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A week ,
Huh. I I guessed that they were gonna do it some time during the semester
week and a half.
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A week ,
Huh. I I guessed that they were gonna do it some time during the semester
week and a half.
but they 'll do it any time , huh ?
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Huh. I I guessed that they were gonna do it some time during the semester
week and a half.
but they 'll do it any time , huh ?
They seem to be Well , the semester actually is starting up.
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week and a half.
but they 'll do it any time , huh ?
They seem to be Well , the semester actually is starting up.
Is it already ?
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but they 'll do it any time , huh ?
They seem to be Well , the semester actually is starting up.
Is it already ?
Yeah , the semester 's late late August they start here.
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They seem to be Well , the semester actually is starting up.
Is it already ?
Yeah , the semester 's late late August they start here.
Yikes.
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Is it already ?
Yeah , the semester 's late late August they start here.
Yikes.
So they do it right at the beginning of the semester.
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Yeah , the semester 's late late August they start here.
Yikes.
So they do it right at the beginning of the semester.
Yeah.
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Yikes.
So they do it right at the beginning of the semester.
Yeah.
Yeah. So , uh Yep. I mean , that that was sort of one I mean , the overall results seemed to be first place in in in the case of either , um , artificial reverberation or a modest sized training set. Uh , either way , uh , i uh , it helped a lot. And But if you had a a really big training set , a recognizer , uh , system that was capable of taking advantage of a really large training set I thought that One thing with the HTK is that is has the as we 're using the configuration we 're using is w s is being bound by the terms of Aurora , we have all those parameters just set as they are. So even if we had a hundred times as much data , we wouldn't go out to , you know , ten or t or a hundred times as many Gaussians or anything. So , um , it 's kind of hard to take advantage of of of big chunks of data. Uh , whereas the other one does sort of expand as you have more training data.
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So they do it right at the beginning of the semester.
Yeah.
Yeah. So , uh Yep. I mean , that that was sort of one I mean , the overall results seemed to be first place in in in the case of either , um , artificial reverberation or a modest sized training set. Uh , either way , uh , i uh , it helped a lot. And But if you had a a really big training set , a recognizer , uh , system that was capable of taking advantage of a really large training set I thought that One thing with the HTK is that is has the as we 're using the configuration we 're using is w s is being bound by the terms of Aurora , we have all those parameters just set as they are. So even if we had a hundred times as much data , we wouldn't go out to , you know , ten or t or a hundred times as many Gaussians or anything. So , um , it 's kind of hard to take advantage of of of big chunks of data. Uh , whereas the other one does sort of expand as you have more training data.
Mm - hmm.
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Yeah.
Yeah. So , uh Yep. I mean , that that was sort of one I mean , the overall results seemed to be first place in in in the case of either , um , artificial reverberation or a modest sized training set. Uh , either way , uh , i uh , it helped a lot. And But if you had a a really big training set , a recognizer , uh , system that was capable of taking advantage of a really large training set I thought that One thing with the HTK is that is has the as we 're using the configuration we 're using is w s is being bound by the terms of Aurora , we have all those parameters just set as they are. So even if we had a hundred times as much data , we wouldn't go out to , you know , ten or t or a hundred times as many Gaussians or anything. So , um , it 's kind of hard to take advantage of of of big chunks of data. Uh , whereas the other one does sort of expand as you have more training data.
Mm - hmm.
Mmm , yeah.
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Yeah. So , uh Yep. I mean , that that was sort of one I mean , the overall results seemed to be first place in in in the case of either , um , artificial reverberation or a modest sized training set. Uh , either way , uh , i uh , it helped a lot. And But if you had a a really big training set , a recognizer , uh , system that was capable of taking advantage of a really large training set I thought that One thing with the HTK is that is has the as we 're using the configuration we 're using is w s is being bound by the terms of Aurora , we have all those parameters just set as they are. So even if we had a hundred times as much data , we wouldn't go out to , you know , ten or t or a hundred times as many Gaussians or anything. So , um , it 's kind of hard to take advantage of of of big chunks of data. Uh , whereas the other one does sort of expand as you have more training data.
Mm - hmm.
Mmm , yeah.
It does it automatically , actually. And so , um , uh , that one really benefited from the larger set. And it was also a diverse set with different noises and so forth. Uh , so , um , that , uh that seemed to be So , if you have that that better recognizer that can that can build up more parameters , and if you , um , have the natural room , which in this case has a p a pretty bad signal - to - noise ratio , then in that case , um , the right thing to do is just do u use speaker adaptation. And and not bother with with this acoustic , uh , processing. But I think that that would not be true if we did some explicit noise - processing as well as , uh , the convolutional kind of things we were doing.
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Mm - hmm.
Mmm , yeah.
It does it automatically , actually. And so , um , uh , that one really benefited from the larger set. And it was also a diverse set with different noises and so forth. Uh , so , um , that , uh that seemed to be So , if you have that that better recognizer that can that can build up more parameters , and if you , um , have the natural room , which in this case has a p a pretty bad signal - to - noise ratio , then in that case , um , the right thing to do is just do u use speaker adaptation. And and not bother with with this acoustic , uh , processing. But I think that that would not be true if we did some explicit noise - processing as well as , uh , the convolutional kind of things we were doing.
Mm - hmm.
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Mmm , yeah.
It does it automatically , actually. And so , um , uh , that one really benefited from the larger set. And it was also a diverse set with different noises and so forth. Uh , so , um , that , uh that seemed to be So , if you have that that better recognizer that can that can build up more parameters , and if you , um , have the natural room , which in this case has a p a pretty bad signal - to - noise ratio , then in that case , um , the right thing to do is just do u use speaker adaptation. And and not bother with with this acoustic , uh , processing. But I think that that would not be true if we did some explicit noise - processing as well as , uh , the convolutional kind of things we were doing.
Mm - hmm.
So. That 's sort of what we found.
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It does it automatically , actually. And so , um , uh , that one really benefited from the larger set. And it was also a diverse set with different noises and so forth. Uh , so , um , that , uh that seemed to be So , if you have that that better recognizer that can that can build up more parameters , and if you , um , have the natural room , which in this case has a p a pretty bad signal - to - noise ratio , then in that case , um , the right thing to do is just do u use speaker adaptation. And and not bother with with this acoustic , uh , processing. But I think that that would not be true if we did some explicit noise - processing as well as , uh , the convolutional kind of things we were doing.
Mm - hmm.
So. That 's sort of what we found.
Hmm.
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Mm - hmm.
So. That 's sort of what we found.
Hmm.
I , um uh , started working on the uh Mississippi State recognizer. So , I got in touch with Joe and and , uh , from your email and things like that.
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So. That 's sort of what we found.
Hmm.
I , um uh , started working on the uh Mississippi State recognizer. So , I got in touch with Joe and and , uh , from your email and things like that.
Oh , OK.
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Hmm.
I , um uh , started working on the uh Mississippi State recognizer. So , I got in touch with Joe and and , uh , from your email and things like that.
Oh , OK.
And , uh , they added me to the list uh , the mailing list.
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I , um uh , started working on the uh Mississippi State recognizer. So , I got in touch with Joe and and , uh , from your email and things like that.
Oh , OK.
And , uh , they added me to the list uh , the mailing list.
OK , great.
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Oh , OK.
And , uh , they added me to the list uh , the mailing list.
OK , great.
And he gave me all of the pointers and everything that I needed. And so I downloaded the , um There were two things , uh , that they had to download. One was the , uh , I guess the software. And another wad was a , um , sort of like a sample a sample run. So I downloaded the software and compiled all of that. And it compiled fine.
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And , uh , they added me to the list uh , the mailing list.
OK , great.
And he gave me all of the pointers and everything that I needed. And so I downloaded the , um There were two things , uh , that they had to download. One was the , uh , I guess the software. And another wad was a , um , sort of like a sample a sample run. So I downloaded the software and compiled all of that. And it compiled fine.
Eight.
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OK , great.
And he gave me all of the pointers and everything that I needed. And so I downloaded the , um There were two things , uh , that they had to download. One was the , uh , I guess the software. And another wad was a , um , sort of like a sample a sample run. So I downloaded the software and compiled all of that. And it compiled fine.
Eight.
No problems.
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And he gave me all of the pointers and everything that I needed. And so I downloaded the , um There were two things , uh , that they had to download. One was the , uh , I guess the software. And another wad was a , um , sort of like a sample a sample run. So I downloaded the software and compiled all of that. And it compiled fine.
Eight.
No problems.
Oh , eh , great.
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Eight.
No problems.
Oh , eh , great.
And , um , I grabbed the sample stuff but I haven't , uh , compiled it.
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No problems.
Oh , eh , great.
And , um , I grabbed the sample stuff but I haven't , uh , compiled it.
That sample was released only yesterday or the day before , right ?
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Oh , eh , great.
And , um , I grabbed the sample stuff but I haven't , uh , compiled it.
That sample was released only yesterday or the day before , right ?
No Well , I haven't grabbed that one yet. So there 's two.
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And , um , I grabbed the sample stuff but I haven't , uh , compiled it.
That sample was released only yesterday or the day before , right ?
No Well , I haven't grabbed that one yet. So there 's two.
Oh , there is another short sample set
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That sample was released only yesterday or the day before , right ?
No Well , I haven't grabbed that one yet. So there 's two.
Oh , there is another short sample set
There was another short one , yeah.
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No Well , I haven't grabbed that one yet. So there 's two.
Oh , there is another short sample set
There was another short one , yeah.
o o sample.
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Oh , there is another short sample set
There was another short one , yeah.
o o sample.
And so I haven't grabbed the latest one that he just , uh , put out yet.
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There was another short one , yeah.
o o sample.
And so I haven't grabbed the latest one that he just , uh , put out yet.
OK. Oh , OK. F Yeah , OK.
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o o sample.
And so I haven't grabbed the latest one that he just , uh , put out yet.
OK. Oh , OK. F Yeah , OK.
So. Um , but , the software seemed to compile fine and everything , so. And , um , So.
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And so I haven't grabbed the latest one that he just , uh , put out yet.
OK. Oh , OK. F Yeah , OK.
So. Um , but , the software seemed to compile fine and everything , so. And , um , So.
Is there any word yet about the issues about , um , adjustments for different feature sets or anything ?
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OK. Oh , OK. F Yeah , OK.
So. Um , but , the software seemed to compile fine and everything , so. And , um , So.
Is there any word yet about the issues about , um , adjustments for different feature sets or anything ?
No , I I d You asked me to write to him and I think I forgot to ask him about that. Or if I did ask him , he didn't reply.
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So. Um , but , the software seemed to compile fine and everything , so. And , um , So.
Is there any word yet about the issues about , um , adjustments for different feature sets or anything ?
No , I I d You asked me to write to him and I think I forgot to ask him about that. Or if I did ask him , he didn't reply.
Yeah.
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Is there any word yet about the issues about , um , adjustments for different feature sets or anything ?
No , I I d You asked me to write to him and I think I forgot to ask him about that. Or if I did ask him , he didn't reply.
Yeah.
I I don't remember yet. Uh , I 'll I 'll d I 'll double check that and ask him again.
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No , I I d You asked me to write to him and I think I forgot to ask him about that. Or if I did ask him , he didn't reply.
Yeah.
I I don't remember yet. Uh , I 'll I 'll d I 'll double check that and ask him again.
Yeah. Yeah , it 's like that that could r turn out to be an important issue for us.
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Yeah.
I I don't remember yet. Uh , I 'll I 'll d I 'll double check that and ask him again.
Yeah. Yeah , it 's like that that could r turn out to be an important issue for us.
Hmm. Mmm.
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I I don't remember yet. Uh , I 'll I 'll d I 'll double check that and ask him again.
Yeah. Yeah , it 's like that that could r turn out to be an important issue for us.
Hmm. Mmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah , it 's like that that could r turn out to be an important issue for us.
Hmm. Mmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
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Hmm. Mmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Cuz they have it
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Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Cuz they have it
Maybe I 'll send it to the list. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Cuz they have it
Maybe I 'll send it to the list. Yeah.
Cuz they have , uh , already frozen those in i insertion penalties and all those stuff is what I feel. Because they have this document explaining the recognizer.
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Cuz they have it
Maybe I 'll send it to the list. Yeah.
Cuz they have , uh , already frozen those in i insertion penalties and all those stuff is what I feel. Because they have this document explaining the recognizer.
Uh - huh.
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Maybe I 'll send it to the list. Yeah.
Cuz they have , uh , already frozen those in i insertion penalties and all those stuff is what I feel. Because they have this document explaining the recognizer.
Uh - huh.
And they have these tables with , uh , various language model weights , insertion penalties.
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Cuz they have , uh , already frozen those in i insertion penalties and all those stuff is what I feel. Because they have this document explaining the recognizer.
Uh - huh.
And they have these tables with , uh , various language model weights , insertion penalties.
OK , I haven't seen that one yet.
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Uh - huh.
And they have these tables with , uh , various language model weights , insertion penalties.
OK , I haven't seen that one yet.
So.
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And they have these tables with , uh , various language model weights , insertion penalties.
OK , I haven't seen that one yet.
So.
Uh , it 's th it 's there on that web.
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OK , I haven't seen that one yet.
So.
Uh , it 's th it 's there on that web.
OK.
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So.
Uh , it 's th it 's there on that web.
OK.
And , uh , on that , I mean , they have run some experiments using various insertion penalties and all those
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Uh , it 's th it 's there on that web.
OK.
And , uh , on that , I mean , they have run some experiments using various insertion penalties and all those
And so they 've picked the values.
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OK.
And , uh , on that , I mean , they have run some experiments using various insertion penalties and all those
And so they 've picked the values.
Yeah , I think they pi p
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And , uh , on that , I mean , they have run some experiments using various insertion penalties and all those
And so they 've picked the values.
Yeah , I think they pi p
Oh , OK.
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And so they 've picked the values.
Yeah , I think they pi p
Oh , OK.
yeah , they picked the values from
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Yeah , I think they pi p
Oh , OK.
yeah , they picked the values from
OK.
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Oh , OK.
yeah , they picked the values from
OK.
For r w what test set ?
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yeah , they picked the values from
OK.
For r w what test set ?
Uh , p the one that they have reported is a NIST evaluation , Wall Street Journal.
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OK.
For r w what test set ?
Uh , p the one that they have reported is a NIST evaluation , Wall Street Journal.
But that has nothing to do with what we 're testing on , right ?
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For r w what test set ?
Uh , p the one that they have reported is a NIST evaluation , Wall Street Journal.
But that has nothing to do with what we 're testing on , right ?
Mm - hmm.
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Uh , p the one that they have reported is a NIST evaluation , Wall Street Journal.
But that has nothing to do with what we 're testing on , right ?
Mm - hmm.
You know. No. So they 're , like um So they are actually trying to , uh , fix that those values using the clean , uh , training part of the Wall Street Journal. Which is I mean , the Aurora. Aurora has a clean subset.
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But that has nothing to do with what we 're testing on , right ?
Mm - hmm.
You know. No. So they 're , like um So they are actually trying to , uh , fix that those values using the clean , uh , training part of the Wall Street Journal. Which is I mean , the Aurora. Aurora has a clean subset.
Right.
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Mm - hmm.
You know. No. So they 're , like um So they are actually trying to , uh , fix that those values using the clean , uh , training part of the Wall Street Journal. Which is I mean , the Aurora. Aurora has a clean subset.
Right.
I mean , they want to train it and then this they 're going to run some evaluations.
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You know. No. So they 're , like um So they are actually trying to , uh , fix that those values using the clean , uh , training part of the Wall Street Journal. Which is I mean , the Aurora. Aurora has a clean subset.
Right.
I mean , they want to train it and then this they 're going to run some evaluations.
So they 're set they 're setting it based on that ?
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Right.
I mean , they want to train it and then this they 're going to run some evaluations.
So they 're set they 're setting it based on that ?
Yeah.
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I mean , they want to train it and then this they 're going to run some evaluations.
So they 're set they 're setting it based on that ?
Yeah.
OK. So now , we may come back to the situation where we may be looking for a modification of the features to account for the fact that we can't modify these parameters.
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So they 're set they 're setting it based on that ?
Yeah.
OK. So now , we may come back to the situation where we may be looking for a modification of the features to account for the fact that we can't modify these parameters.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
OK. So now , we may come back to the situation where we may be looking for a modification of the features to account for the fact that we can't modify these parameters.
Yeah.
But , um ,
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OK. So now , we may come back to the situation where we may be looking for a modification of the features to account for the fact that we can't modify these parameters.
Yeah.
But , um ,
Yeah.
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Yeah.
But , um ,
Yeah.
uh but it 's still worth , I think , just since you know , just chatting with Joe about the issue.
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But , um ,
Yeah.
uh but it 's still worth , I think , just since you know , just chatting with Joe about the issue.
Yeah , OK. Do you think that 's something I should just send to him
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Yeah.
uh but it 's still worth , I think , just since you know , just chatting with Joe about the issue.
Yeah , OK. Do you think that 's something I should just send to him
Um
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uh but it 's still worth , I think , just since you know , just chatting with Joe about the issue.
Yeah , OK. Do you think that 's something I should just send to him
Um
or do you think I should send it to this there 's an a m a mailing list.
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Yeah , OK. Do you think that 's something I should just send to him
Um
or do you think I should send it to this there 's an a m a mailing list.
Well , it 's not a secret. I mean , we 're , you know , certainly willing to talk about it with everybody , but I think I think that , um um , it 's probably best to start talking with him just to
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Um
or do you think I should send it to this there 's an a m a mailing list.
Well , it 's not a secret. I mean , we 're , you know , certainly willing to talk about it with everybody , but I think I think that , um um , it 's probably best to start talking with him just to
OK.
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or do you think I should send it to this there 's an a m a mailing list.
Well , it 's not a secret. I mean , we 're , you know , certainly willing to talk about it with everybody , but I think I think that , um um , it 's probably best to start talking with him just to
OK.
Uh @ @ you know , it 's a dialogue between two of you about what you know , what does he think about this and what what you know what could be done about it.
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Well , it 's not a secret. I mean , we 're , you know , certainly willing to talk about it with everybody , but I think I think that , um um , it 's probably best to start talking with him just to
OK.
Uh @ @ you know , it 's a dialogue between two of you about what you know , what does he think about this and what what you know what could be done about it.
Yeah. OK.
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OK.
Uh @ @ you know , it 's a dialogue between two of you about what you know , what does he think about this and what what you know what could be done about it.
Yeah. OK.
Um , if you get ten people in involved in it there 'll be a lot of perspectives based on , you know , how
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Uh @ @ you know , it 's a dialogue between two of you about what you know , what does he think about this and what what you know what could be done about it.
Yeah. OK.
Um , if you get ten people in involved in it there 'll be a lot of perspectives based on , you know , how
Yeah.
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Yeah. OK.
Um , if you get ten people in involved in it there 'll be a lot of perspectives based on , you know , how
Yeah.
you know.
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Um , if you get ten people in involved in it there 'll be a lot of perspectives based on , you know , how
Yeah.
you know.
Right.
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Yeah.
you know.
Right.
Uh But , I mean , I think it all should come up eventually ,
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you know.
Right.
Uh But , I mean , I think it all should come up eventually ,
OK.
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Right.
Uh But , I mean , I think it all should come up eventually ,
OK.
but if if if there is any , uh , uh , way to move in a way that would that would , you know , be more open to different kinds of features. But if if , uh if there isn't , and it 's just kind of shut down and and then also there 's probably not worthwhile bringing it into a larger forum where where political issues will come in.
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Uh But , I mean , I think it all should come up eventually ,
OK.
but if if if there is any , uh , uh , way to move in a way that would that would , you know , be more open to different kinds of features. But if if , uh if there isn't , and it 's just kind of shut down and and then also there 's probably not worthwhile bringing it into a larger forum where where political issues will come in.
Yeah. OK.
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OK.
but if if if there is any , uh , uh , way to move in a way that would that would , you know , be more open to different kinds of features. But if if , uh if there isn't , and it 's just kind of shut down and and then also there 's probably not worthwhile bringing it into a larger forum where where political issues will come in.
Yeah. OK.
Oh. So this is now it 's it 's compiled under Solaris ?
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but if if if there is any , uh , uh , way to move in a way that would that would , you know , be more open to different kinds of features. But if if , uh if there isn't , and it 's just kind of shut down and and then also there 's probably not worthwhile bringing it into a larger forum where where political issues will come in.
Yeah. OK.
Oh. So this is now it 's it 's compiled under Solaris ?
Yeah.
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Yeah. OK.
Oh. So this is now it 's it 's compiled under Solaris ?
Yeah.
Yeah , OK.
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Oh. So this is now it 's it 's compiled under Solaris ?
Yeah.
Yeah , OK.
Yep.
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Yeah.
Yeah , OK.
Yep.
Because he there was some mail r saying that it 's may not be stable for Linux and all those.
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Yeah , OK.
Yep.
Because he there was some mail r saying that it 's may not be stable for Linux and all those.
Yeah. Yeah , i that was a particular version.
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Yep.
Because he there was some mail r saying that it 's may not be stable for Linux and all those.
Yeah. Yeah , i that was a particular version.
SUSI
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Because he there was some mail r saying that it 's may not be stable for Linux and all those.
Yeah. Yeah , i that was a particular version.
SUSI
Yeah , SUSI or whatever it was
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Yeah. Yeah , i that was a particular version.
SUSI
Yeah , SUSI or whatever it was
yeah. Yeah , yeah.
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SUSI
Yeah , SUSI or whatever it was
yeah. Yeah , yeah.
but we don't have that.
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Yeah , SUSI or whatever it was
yeah. Yeah , yeah.
but we don't have that.
Yeah , OK.
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yeah. Yeah , yeah.
but we don't have that.
Yeah , OK.
So. Should be OK.
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but we don't have that.
Yeah , OK.
So. Should be OK.
OK , that 's fine.
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QMSum_194
Yeah , OK.
So. Should be OK.
OK , that 's fine.
Yeah , it compiled fine actually.
false
QMSum_194
So. Should be OK.
OK , that 's fine.
Yeah , it compiled fine actually.
Yeah.
false
QMSum_194
OK , that 's fine.
Yeah , it compiled fine actually.
Yeah.
No no errors. Nothing. So.
false
QMSum_194