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What do you mean? Is Lessig not helping with the MAYDAY group anymore? Did he leave to look into running for president? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoySnM0ZjJlMFNSSjJ3Y3VkUkpXcUdzSzFKb1hWRVJCTGJ5em1OeFlWb0d0WWRwWUJHWkI5d25DTkZmZkpZZTZpU2NqcVJ4QmJlYkhTZWlDNlRkdTc0RHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Sm9JcnBpam9KckstRXJ5c3VKaWFHbDhzbTBLVjdyV1N3ZWMtaUE1d2xHNFo3Wk9HSmxPeDN5M3Q5Mk5JUU1meUJFS1pQeE9XTUFUWFNkdkNjX0hFbU5rSGM5VE53RGYzRGNoOThoNDl0SThVUjJPd3ExTnJRWHBOV1lrQTVRRU53TTNub3JrRlk4c2NqYnRLbFlIS01NdF9ZQWlNeHc1YmNrc2NSNV8tWlU0MFVpdHFmYjZsTmI2TFJrUms3aklFRkd0SEttOGFmcHc3S01uU0FQZlhxZz09 |
I would vote for Lessig immediately, assuming his platform is political finance reform, but Bernie does have more momentum, and even now, some current voters assume *he* won't stand a chance. I'd love a Sanders/Lessig Ticket, but I don't think enough people know who Lessig is in order to get the votes to win.
Maybe bringing up the issue of political campaign finance reform will help as a candidate, and running this year will give him public standing to make a better run 8 years from now after Bernie's time in office is up :) | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyUzg0LTBBU0tPaFdTUHF4TFktZ1NELWRQaDlOalJQdy1xSWpoZTRNelRNTEdJUHBEVlNwZ2NaVUxEXzBlME5iUzZ5THdOUXZKbG9KOFBZcDFjSkhOenc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5NktHNktlRm1FT25ZMFp0YjczV1JxNVJTaVpORThfZ0M4dmJpbmkyVDBhTWJiLUNwdTRxbVd0eGlKUnMwWVpwUUx2YU5ka21tOE1QdnBYV01CTjk0SDhrV01GSi1nQmZaTHZDUkROVmdjVmJnQkRGMzZ0bjFVWEoyVEFHR3Uwc0hiQVdWSXJSOXRMbS1GeGFUOGhDZW9sN1hObTJXa05wS1U2MVVidGJZNVNMZXQ4dFNxZHZLY3RPQ29DZmRrV25xSVhscHg4RmFtQV9ZM2g4UnZpdUluZz09 |
Yeah. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/zephyr-teachout-larry-lessig-mayday-pac-2016-120660.html
I can't imagine he's seriously considering running for president. But I haven't read this latest story yet, so maybe. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyaHd2NTlHeHFTVXJ3WWdpYnR4TG00UXRZeFhjb3FCWTdoZVdLZTlQcFM3WEw4dFhIczRibFVmbzlPWlZ2SFFTTTVFeWt0em96ZklJZDB2dHZ6cC1OdFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5LTNsaXdCTmtHTS1meG1nNUdXTEk0cHNPWUVfN0tZeWdGMFNQUnVJazR2MFozb05qUEhOQmgxYm82V05TeWhEb29rbHFzTWlpQldDdkVsYzZ3MG5IOEJwSnRuWGtyWjZ3NFEyYmlKUGs3QnVHQ0loMTFKSDdfX3BXUHZLeHBXUkZXS2JfLTNSZG1WMUVVdFFLTE9hQm5VQkMyVV9Ub2xxZXh0WEotanctX3J4X2puZHVXTml6SHlaVnp4Z3dTQlBSZTJpdG90U2JRRFRtcVcxMkpaUHFCUT09 |
The number one reason we can't stop corruption is because people, like myself, have lost hope. I can't believe that voting, calling/writing congress, etc. makes any difference whatsoever. The only ideas anyone can come up with are the kind of laughable crazy ideas that teenagers come up with in political science class.
Larry is a much smarter person than I am. The fact that he is also out of ideas, and is resorting to one of the ludicrous fantasy options, makes me lose even more hope. If this is the best idea that Lessig has left, it might be time to give up. Or maybe it's time to try all ideas, no matter how crazy? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyY1UxNnRyYmpLTHlqdktuU3dhTW5rRE1RdTJfYXE1aDRIRG1BX2w2cU1YSVplZzJQbkx3Rm9IVlNScDFpR1ZMRzdZWTNta2hOaGNlUzNuTGJuOW5Ldnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5aTZadW15dHNuTHF4M0hxenBndFBTRWNFSnFzczkzaXFWRUxpUElGVGIxUURMRVZSallmeUJnUnh5V1hmc25mLW0zMTdpUkl3TlpCeHRVaV92blVocjhiRlhTc1doTkNlNlZXUDZkdmpVUWg2a0dwd01jeXVyNzViS2IxNDMxU3F6RmZnbHUzWnY4dmpjUkdmMjByWUhtUlRBVjkxeEwzNzN4cDBVUGhwNzdabXB0dGtaZFdKSzVYQWJDc1g1ZTBqOGFFakRkSmdJbllrY1NMc3JCYlFwdz09 |
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I recently found out that there's another Friday the 13th movie coming out in 2016. I mean, I knew about Halloween, but Ft13, too? This is just *awesome*. I really hope it actually happens, and that it doesn't suck. :D | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoybW5VRkF1Q0V6TWdGSFQyMUVzMDQteFBncjJLVzhVdm5Qb1otV1hhc2d6ZXVCUkY4eW0xZTVGOHp3d3RJUWh4alhWSDh1OURVdW1aZUhVZzJqOGhiZ0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5V3RsbFJIWEpBUFEydTZzd21kZzFXUzNjX042eXdQa2hEYUNYdlNNZmUxdE5vb1pRZXlkVUtjRjR4czh4YUZpNzE2Z2ljWDVhT0p2dm40X2VfMHdDY0oyOURhaVFIWHYtclc4R2V3WjV6Q05iR0xvMVRqTTNDQkZsZzN3cVhSYTBGLW41Y0dnNjEwdGUtWk82RmtvOHdjNmdpTmZKZmRXbWItWndGaEktNUZJbkNyWjBBZ0xvUXdtelpfanhJcUJD |
Huh. [Beetlejuice sequel](http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/11/beetlejuice-2-winona-ryder-confirms-sequel?hootPostID=8e9ae27d0cd4d06dc685c0b54204bcb9) is coming. Let's hope for the best. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycUs1Y3E3dVVOa2g0akdCd2FvanRhTVNzR05ITHEtQ3c1X1JfbmdyTXZVbzRPRFRoUVVQcGRHX0k1ZFhiTXp1MnVWYUdYVkdmOHQ3cVJfTmlsVURuMHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WlpqRE9zQkhISm1icWpGTk1EZ09DWkZaZUNWYXJKdFBKdzc0ZGZWdElEMnVfM0pBbnJob05QYkNXS1dzdm5teThLZ3A1cXJGRHFBNzhUcm5nU01GTkl4R2J1anE2dmRoOThneW9NdTB5eEludEZBSTBUd1JOVXRNem1lWGFoeFBWSm1GYkxMa3VMRkozcHd5ZGtqU1M3eV9jeXJCMHNBV2hrMjJZUGVyZG1reWtjQi12d2pNdWsya2pRQmZJSjlS |
I posted this in the last thread. I'm not very confident that it won't suck :/ | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycHJ3d2tEMUsyUGh1RnlpMnFDU1BTRTVsRWdQVEQ0XzdxcV93TTdsY180bDNEYy1jdGxJWXBkbHIyaW5rRkFCckFqTDhWdTItNHlWVnVxN2w2M04xbGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5eG9IT19CUDRXenpVbVVpWGFjYk82X3ZBRWtmMDVETlNUWjM0ZkxmZmZjSVZlb1ZiY2RmdzU2aTVHUWh1c21seFRBcWwxS2R1MTdLcDN3aFNSYXpMSDVCY2xON0Rhd1MzN19mOVMwd0NrUk05NzcweHp2ZkoyaVdJV2ZOWXJ4czRybm9OajI0WE5WOFd1ejBHQWVUOHY2M3VxWmt4WHdJLXBxWjlkMjRLeVg0ZkRxU2k5SnEyNUJXZGoyeEN3UGdx |
Crap! CRAP! NO! Let him wait until 2020! If he runs in this election, he'll split the Sanders vote! | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyZllvNGhOWk1NSk13RW9iQUxtYjNMajZISnZOeGxoWDBHRjJmOFU0ZlhfM1dmRTRUWHBxdDJocnl5UWx2ZDlxSHBUNWdfMTlXZGJ5WnZsM3J0SXRyYlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Mm13S0g0MkFBNU52dW54RW5EaUxULWJGVjlUcG1XWVJWQzNnTkNnUmd6ckUzVGhNUkwtSEpfV2F4aXEtR1ByYnRmSUhLN0FMSk92c2YxNEFUblllLXgtWUZJdkczUzZUamdjeE5GS285anFITzlJMFVUcXpMREUwT0dySkVHSVlIckxLUWxsWXJRWUN4T3JsZ0FXVjZnYmxrNTV5V3VDYzcxcGhNSGQwalNYdjZpN0hXNFBQdWhaUUZoWnpnRF9JVHpuM1BBNE82MFBHSHpTMGtrbmo0QT09 |
Larry! No! Not now! | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR090aEFKbG5tQnNlTm1uNDBlN1VfN2Vaam95RGpXRHVSczRmQVpxUG52anhVaVllbHdNWHhsWTFTNlYyLUNIaHVIYS1IWWI4aTJiU2RDb2FkU1VoNkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TEpVQ2wyY2IwTTdsTkFiWnc3VVFUT3Rvb3l2T0FEMVNYYndURDRzZy0yUHFHOTYxTDQ3MmtwTmtleXVaRU1GQWNiUDdTclVkU0xCY0d1YjN6YkJiVDIySGtuSDhJQ2lzb2w0dHpQdHFLcUgwWFhOYnl4WkJMampVWEM4ZDg1eHVZZnRYSFhiMHJSY2h0eDhoLTlsQU5rTXlHbHRoX24zaGU4RU9jMVExOWRXdFJGZnNVR2hBMDAzbTY3LWVZWjZzWnM3b19mazdVdkMwZTRXQkFzNjNNQT09 |
And what, exactly, is your better idea? Bernie Sanders won't be able to do shit unless we fix Congress. Watch Lessig explain why to the PCCC and then tell me I'm wrong: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_aXrjSorw | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyUjZsU1dnMnpCQTJDbTdwdE5NRU52RUExSUVYeFNEUmpWdklwMjZTSUxfaFF1cjBqWUVFdEVNZnc0ZkhHSUdRb2dLWmNieEdRRHJfXzQtLUJWZV84MFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5azlFYk1CU3dhX1UyUVpQbUpBcFFLT01iMHRnUml0WVBpcFE2TmxncHpnOTNZV0kwc3Y2VW0wbW1TQUxORVNWcFlZc1JNWUJOLXItTXluQnZHV210eng5eEU1QzdNTmxSR2JvcUk2dU9ZQ2lBMGlnSnNLbGJxcTFwTkU2SVBpNHZueTFfZ2NyN2pOSlZtNXlYWHVjU3JzakpqNWlETmRyN1lMbUJ5Mm9jaW5PMlNDcmpYZzZSQkZoTGRYQUJzOWJSOGMyNG84Tkd5TDdQTzB4QWR4WmNpUT09 |
The sequel to Mad Max won't have Furiosa in it; however, there's very low level speculation that she might get her own spin off. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoybzZPMmh2V0l4TXp5VGtTRmFJOHEwUzNDTm8zOUs4bU5wWmRyeS02eXJBT3diWmFmY18tQkhOVTdvOEN1TnMyLVNhMXh6c2hNcHM4RXk4SlJ3ZVczY1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Y29MSG90SHNmTzd5YkIxSzJNY0JtM2VfMTdFSW03Q3RtdzFpYmZTQTlFVUdLampfc2IxZmtnOFlxZ1U5bnpaZ0xLS1BGdjlBM2F5ZDN3VHg1cm5DNVNOR3piTURiMkpGVEFwRzlKNEZrRVZMVTNseUF5S0x1bWM4N0ZsSWhXWVlqdGNVUFlKVVZybmt6Q2sxMUJobXJEYjlNSnU1aU1vZWt3LXp5ak9fTWF3SXNlT3JXNFZGcFJtU1c4V0N1cGI5 |
If they mention runes and druid rituals, I'm gonna start flipping tables. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyYWs4R2ZCeWNyS3JYVFVzNGx2QVg5SjNObEI5YWtPVERWcnlZRzA3UnZhVzNaQXFiTmFPZlBCZUFFWGVWd0JuaElyd2U3WklKbVhtX0hacENzWjVwaGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UW1HVE9QZ0g0a0lrdnVkdnc0MlkwQ2FYTFR6clktV0MwVWZXMzlBYTRra1hhQkRBamVTelp5Z3B3Y3FCNHppMk1OLXlUSHJaWnFGTEUxYkVpakJGb014b0Z1bEdHWDZyNDlNbWx0ZURLVnZndkhuSnJmVlZTSENKajR5YnFQbmROc2owX2NZUENTYlRpbU5Xal8tU2NYcWN4NUM5eEhxSTRFTjlsWk5GdWVET2RaVDRPYmVJdVU4U0tLTUtkOEhz |
Why do you think President Lessig would be more capable or likely than President Sanders to "fix Congress"? And, why do you think Lessig has a better chance of actually being elected than Sanders? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMmJrR0RUN0ItVWxwaWRJMWJOY0RSQnlqWDlScm1YbHZIaU5NQnRJZ1NCV2ZZeWtNTXdDSHFpbHFFS0tjU3VKUDNXRW9aTUo3ZnBXU05CMjJSNTBnb2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5QnpocU9WMG1hRHIwd2hER0NRSm55ZU9aUTZUSFJMdDFyX21JNnBiTXRfVkZTZkROM0RuSkxNaWJNb2o5bWdGYnZkRXFjMll4Qy1zYXZLOU1qUzJYaE9wVzU2UHdqMXdGd1htOVk5LTkzU2k3eVUwR2U0UThxak9XS081bzVuN3BOclNnT1o1dnNkNV9vRXFGMGVCOE1DSjJIUlUxRldaNkdjT1FVazE1RjdxMDBiS3I3LTdPNDg5eXlEd1ZObkxnUlVCTWRwS3dLOFpwRzIzeGw2SG9TQT09 |
Um, he has an actual plan to pass fundamental campaign finance reform through Congress? (On the other hand, I didn't say and I don't think he has a better chance of being elected than Sanders.) | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyWWJIZUNhVHNuZ2loZ3dOcHlySHRzWGRZeWNuRW5KN25oTGk3ZHg2RTRQMjZBcmxOaGpza0lTdlZWZk8xY3hGVld6S0JqdWNEeTF6V3NfWEk4dU9zSXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5OXZNUEtMMVJmY0NTT05kRHNEWHZEQTliUUtzODcyRDNNZ2tvWC1oa25DVkw2VWlPM3kwUXBMMm5tWkZ5TmpuV0NlWmh4SmZaM21hNE1PekkwN05fRzhUOEpNZUxJNE5kMWN5aFJvZU5DNkFuQkhTd3RIal9fbUx1OU4wT0ZsbmxKNEZ6dndrRVB2STlnQUpUSC1kZzBhNDZWMkRvY0VPM19xbzg0aUNpWE13ckFnTThWMzJWT0tqZ0Q4VEN2Sk5BMWl0WGd5Z3V3QTVvZHBSU3NOOGxUQT09 |
Bernie is very strong on campaign finance reform, corruption, voting rights, etc. The problem is that even if he's elected, he'll inherit a Congress that's been bought. The issue of addressing this fundamental corruption must come first. When you have a moment, his website explains it quite well. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycEpKYVlOWGk3SlRpVkpIbEFZd0k1aWxYNVB0LXBVOE40WHEwam5NcWowOHloWUpaUUc2ZjZ5N0xuSVVoWlVEdFlaZ0M5b0dLUHd3bUdsOGtfQy1VaGZUc012MC14R0NyVXJqUlVLTnpRVXM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UURVcHVEOHhsWmhVcnZIUktIU2JZdW13dzMzZTJwTktueEdaWFMwdE1qcUNSZUxqZUNYZDVMeGw0VnA5SV9tM3Q1M29MOEFheHItdGx6d1JLSmo1enk1dHliOW9pSlZRQW13SmVEczkxV001SFczcFh1SGltQVV5NlNIbXFEdlMtV1ZBVWc5SGJpS0hQMklZb1F4dGpET25TY0dUVHVVdzNqNXg3TndMTW5IVUZEZUYyWnlyVEtVT0Q5NXJmN1dtSWt2VU1ZZWZ0YldCNVhPbTE1bzBPUT09 |
The idea is to have a Lessig/Sanders ticket. (Or Lessig/Clinton, or Lessig/O'Malley…) The idea is to make the presidency a referendum on this issue. If elected, he would use his mandate to pass the Citizen Equality Act, then resign immediately, and the vice president would become president for the remainder of the term. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyYXE0YlhrWTlxVUZiR2tzZTJLZFZlVTY4dlBIZWM0N1JxLVZDVDA4VUFrTmRMQVhudzN3dFdRaGYyVDZjTUZHTDdQUmpoSHJfVWJzUFo4NUF4VloyWFk3Yk5yS0xSVTlsNGUzdFNiRkdaNmM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5SGZ5bzdFdkRlOFJMSzYydTA0d2dRbDZSYTktWVJpSnI0T0J6Y2pfRXY0VS1mM0FpRjF5ZWQ2VGVEaS1RQWFBZmo5RXVYczFTMGppMGJYa19PN3oyRW9laFlkRmd4SW5mOGhNTktpcVNPZzlYSzJFRTE5bmQ4MVJLVkJSRTBwZ0owY0tqTkJjWDRkYmxGclZ0ejdXTWRWSVkxc0FOUWlsU1lLUVlRdXlTWEZhaFhGSHFtYmhwWkJhM3ptaUpKcG1tUzR1dHU3SGxvb0lRUWgtMGRxOUdlZz09 |
> Did Lessig have a stroke or something?
Yeah, I'm done with Mayday now or anything associated with Lessig. He's now association his GOOD ideas with this horrible idea of acting as a spoiler protest candidate against Sanders for Hillary Clinton.
OF COURSE he'll get a measly 1 million from corrupt people who want him to be a spoiler for Hillary.
I guess I'll start by unsubscribing from this sub. Bye guys and fuck Lessig. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyU1NBLU1iM2RhRy1tcXg2UmxBV21jRmhoZVZ4b0VOYTJOUm8yZU1BaDlySDgzWU9RVUFQd2VKaTFSTHBId0xDX3ZIUWFndjVzaHNXbXk4LVZ1dW95NXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5b0w5QUt1YjctYmFiUGlUNlkwQl8yOGdsazVMUDhjbkptRkY4elNCd1NwUjZXMGJxS3VoeWkzeUpWcHpqeFNDYW1sVndvckR4aTd1cEVmaktPRm9jZDRkQXMxOEdYTm8zOVU0SW5vMW5ucGtvWVVFbE1lN1FJSEQ2TXd2R08yQkVVZjlseVV6ZnNmVTlVbXd0TVlMT0VsVF8tX09uRWc2QUtYR2hlMTRDT3NnZE93M1JMRl9oWTJmSVMzR2RabWh3NXJqN1VGb2o4WWRVVTdfamNwd3BuUT09 |
>The problem is that even if he's elected, he'll inherit a Congress that's been bought.
You should look closer at Sanders' strategy. He's rallying grassroots groups all over this nation to not only get him elected, but also to KEEP WORKING after he's elected to win the following midterms, etc. to thwart Republican and bluedog Democrat obstructionism.
His previous grassroots experience is stellar and we're already seeing that pay off. Look at the HUGE crowds he's already getting this early in the race without SuperPACs, without Wall Street banksters and without corrupt billionaire sugar daddies.
Lessig is ruining his good name and I just feel sad for the man. I've donated money to Lessig's ideas and now I regret it. Never again.
Lessig has some great ideas, but he's horrible in strategizing for them. I'm done with Lessig, this is the last straw. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyTWNGSDdPZ2dSSWRseVZEUm11eVFEemJweE1Rb1R4ZFBMOGJldnJ2X0pBd0NzZjMxR2NQQ0NlLU1zMzBtell1cUZOZE44QUt1R2FGZDZxZE1tblg5UlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5aVZjVkhUOVJmNGpydFlGZmFGdWt0anZLUDVSeS1oWUJZRUM3N18xU2RraENQQmVFeFdHUjZ0dXBhT0lKTWlldmExVVIyRDBfYTFRaUstMXhFRHJoRUpjTXJ6cVNfWmgtNnpRNEtkeElYc2VNQnRpRXhaTEtyOHcyOXlpTVhzZk5BZkdpcXRkY3Vla3FrNTF2MDFqYk9qbVEtT3NOXzRvYm1PYVNLYUtJc1RzMjF6Sk9oMzNCUUdYMTlkWWtiWFdqOW41U1ZTdmNQeUVRcWR6Q2tmSTZYQT09 |
Bernie and his grassroots organization are amazing and I'm a fan. They can get him into office. But Bernie will not be able to anything substantive until this issue is fixed, which is why it must be first. Lessig has even noted on his site that if another leading candidate is ready to take the lead and credibly make this their first issue, he would step aside.
Bernie's latest statement is that this would be fixed in the long run. All he needs to do is 1. adopt a clear plan with legislation included (like the Citizen Equality Act) and 2. make it the very first thing he does when he enters office. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoybmhLSlp0Q1JkWFAyU0FSdGQyaTVGdGhJTFdLYUJEazRIc0lyU1NFYnh5SUs2NWExMzNlVkt6LWJOaHRzLTIxREFqd25WNmRZNmNyNzhpbnRGaFBjOE01V21sWFN1SGFJU081X3JUZktuRkk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WFJsZGFxT3hBenNEMWZ0ZlVOVlF0NjRlWVBaYWx2d0kxY0lFdDNsNXNweTlaUmp5ZGo4Tm52R1dHLVJDUWhKNjdscW9UVFRFSktlNjBxNGpUSlY3c0p4WkgwUE9FZlREVUtQVmNtREpPTHowdG5kVUNobk95WmdKU0kzR3lCNE9haEl6UUJ3ZmRKQUhkSlQtamREQlB1MEhKcUJYQTJSVWFDWUp2RUVTX2Q5Qlk3TDc4OFc4azY1R29FMGloeE1TNU5LVGpJSGdDakxtVVE0NU50MGhSUT09 |
If another candidate makes the Citizen Equality Act the first thing on their agenda to pass upon entering office, Lessig has stated he will bow out of the race. But the candidate must have a specific and credible plan / legislation, and they must make it priority #1. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyY1Zud0ZuUUxtWWFPR0RNN2tmcE8za0lhQUNJVlZnbjBuR1lxWHhrWVBQYTFVQ0l4ZUhuODZqZEk1eXdZenlHZ195dWFFTXUxWDYyVFk2WVpVdjJReUlpMWpRVXV2aEVxMmhCUVpZUG9UVmM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5cllubExvMGZ0LWNaTkFJQndyczQtQzhJRDJJaXFIX3gwRHU3RF9QSnZMOWdCd3lMbVNxeWRLQV9JZ0k0d2FMVlZlNDBqWEhKTGdLZE9CLUdzMDhBZTRyZDdBVGhsWGxtYWpOblRVRHFuYjFQVHZhNGt0WnphaUxFZ1ZuR3ZabTZ3c1N6c0t6OHhfWW5TSU1hWDBkOWw5SjlPQ296eXNTRFdOd1ZUZ2N6dWdPcktxQ3Nrc1hvOHlSSENSYldmSzZi |
>Bernie will not be able to anything substantive until this issue is fixed
I think you radically underestimate how much symbiotic grassroots support Bernie Sanders has fomented. That's how he can beat Hillary and win the White House. That's also how we will enable him by beating enough Republicans in the midterms to overcome obstructionism for his (and our) agendas.
Lessig has good ideas, but he's a piss poor strategist. Hence, his massive failure here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/11/20/mayday-superpac-lesson-failure
Lessig should learn from his failures. He doesn't understand the grassroots dynamic in 2015. We've never seen anything like this for someone like Sanders before.
Here's our reality in 2015:
**Why Bernie Sanders' grassroots supporters are worth more than Clinton & GOP astroturf money can buy.**
http://bbs.boingboing.net/t/why-or-why-not-to-vote-for-bernie-sanders/59394/110?u=cowicide
Lessig has lost his mind and my support. He's dead to me now. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyNXpQSUpHUmtRakxQMFRqaW9IeDJJd0NUZG9hMFRzSHdjUXRtT1dDcW43UVYzc3lUc2RyZU5lQzBDRGdxdEhKRzU2aVBjaWV4YjBWS1lhYjNBM3NNNEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5aEd6MmY2bzRCWTlFVVNDeVgxZnZUNVh3WjZfREpfcHdlYklfS2VnbThlLUk0a01kbDBzQnZYQllXb1ZNTlEwd1hlX0xoaFBjUUpVWU5MN1hoM1hRZTVwc2FVREFvQmlGdExZMXFNelY0a2FMcEhwcjI3YmdKTzJqalAwMm83bThHM2tKWjF6TklzUWN3MEN2a2RXcmpzTDhyTkk0TlF5T2V3Q1RiUXBXVVhiQnI0VVpKa25GVERFRFYtQXJ6M1NRcVd1WERlcG93aFd0MEh0YjdfbWR6dz09 |
People said the same thing about Obama. You're deluding yourself. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyUWRZaE1Yd0ZibDhXem15UTJFTU9KS2wzOERxa1pyOENHS3FickVjS0VtanV4eDB0ZHNDU18wNFVyZDlsVU5yTUxxdXdhZ000b2FyZ1ZTdDJLOHAwcHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5V09faExRaGxiYndaWWd2VDdoQ2FLdEdIazI4cXg0cnJObjM0WUU1R01EN1ptNVVUUUdZa0hVLTJkNHZOMDFlc29FRXJuVjVEclpreGk2cXM5eWU5em1FUnY4SzFkZ0U1eXB6MmNOUTFiVjZJTWl4WUxnbkR5ZlBmY3N6LVVUd2dZRE5pQ1NEbjA3Y0FaSHFZdVR2czRRbTRUTHI3QTRDdnpHZl93QjltZUZ6aFFpVTQ5cElPYkhQcFEwLVpNUW5OYm94RzM1cWYwdTZPTVEzRm9sdmZ5QT09 |
Whose website? Sanders' or Lessig's? I am very familiar with the issue.
What you just said reinforces my argument that Lessig running cannot possibly be more effective than Sanders. Neither one of them can achieve anything without Congress, and in fact Lessig leaving MaydayPAC puts a damper on making any progress in electing a better Congress no matter if he could somehow win. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR1RoNkE0NzdtTEpXcG5Wc0hBUWZXeUlKS2h5dUJyakpaWnBrUFAwdnFOUGozSDBBYWdhTElIOUkwaWhyRDEyY3BvQjBVajh3VThNTGdqcWpxSEVVZHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5THZHSC1mdF9oeEh3TGIxSHNmMV8tZlNZZE84ZXpENmxjMlM0OHlUbmVWWGJBNDRlenUyQ0k2eDUwX3NiUnBtaFhqemREcm9fY0JkYk9wSXc5OG0ydTBUZnZyYk5QVmFHazNZRjZFZTRmbkpOYXh0Y2FsUnBHQ1hyVko2NEVFd3FNWDljTWVyU3dJalhTVVdPQ0Znam00TDNZeDVhUnRNbnFwaUNydENHNFFDNGxCbVVkVFpuT1hidlo5dUpOcXJPUmpTcHVkWGpFWFJ0MjdyZWxocjF5dz09 |
I feel that a shark has been jumped with this announcement and that things are no longer going in a democratic or community-driven direction. This doesn't strike me as a good direction to be moving in for the integrity of the movement. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyWG44V3NyOWZLaExCLTFlVHFzbXp1T2tTNmtlUmpKNUlwclRzNjQwMU9UczByVUNnUXJPR0RnNS1KMFZ3YkdYMlRQSVJKVFJ0d2FQeEFRckpLYjFRSGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5cE1lTlg4QlBaY0c2VGJWMEp0YWM0VU5NRVBtc2hObXBrVm1DV25mNEVkdGdrT0YtVk04alljMVd4VjFnRUVKR0ZVbDRqelg2YmhjNFBfQ2NibmZwYlZvSHp4MVV0TzJHV0w2S1J4Y19BRjF2aV9iNEloZVIwaDY0OGJpVllaMERFNGtLT1RlbGR1Y3E4NXZaOGRwREdsNG80WTZxWlRmRkYyTG9VRHItanY4RDNjZXNEQk9MQ01ZX0hCR1RoZ2tF |
>"I have this rule that I've broken a million times," shared Julie Plec, executive producer of "The Vampire Diaries" and its spin-off, "The Originals." "As a fan, watching TV: Never make anyone an alcoholic, raped, never make them molested, because when all is said and done, their character becomes singularly about being that. You lose the ability to write them as human beings without that problem weighing over them."
I'm glad she's broken this rule a million times bc it sounds like the dumbest rule I've ever heard: "Never depict dark things that happen in reality in visual fiction."
Although she may be talking about how those things are so sensationalized that it becomes a character's defining trait to consumers/passive viewers & how that's a shitty perception.
...but if the *writer* thinks the same thing, I'm thinkin they're obviously not capable of writing these things seriously or with the idea in mind that the character is a human being. That Julie Plec is actually kiiiiiinda admitting she's never experienced or been close to someone who's experienced those things in real life and thus has no idea how to write it bc in her head the characters just *become* their sensationalized dark experience or addiction. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVGNpaHNyM09VNWxYbDBpSkp0Q0UwV3Q5Z2R1dVJvWlI2cmNKN3R3bVRsSlZDNHhTZ2p2UFhxQ3RNMTJMTWp1MTNIZjRRN19iUUk3NHNRM2dJbkxOTmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5V0NyZXlOQWxsWTB0Y0tFUW9ZNmpIdWhsaGE2bXRwaUx1S3JsYjltX05uWWVmSGpGS0JoWGpUS3hRZHVRMy0tb0sySVRtdjQzc0ZkcS1wMHY2alRPTUhhN3h1X2huaWFoejhudlBhYXJJVVpRMFN1NUw3Zy15SjFqMmtlOFpybVczdGduUEFKRExnYmR3YXpXQ0lSd3Zrc3Fqcmd4Wk0tSndSaVNCLVpmUUh6Z2xZdHZpY2NtdW5nWG5FTXc2bkVGT3FTeVdKNjd0QmFtcTUzdFlySG45dz09 |
Lessig outlined this strategy in a book four years ago. Mayday has never been "community-driven." It was created by Lessig and co. and we support their efforts. If you want something community-driven, then start building it yourself. Check out Loomio, etc. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyei1NMUNxWlEtcWxzYTRSOHB2VmdSNFJpbzNOaFk5dEU1UGd4Y3hIenJPS0lXMEswc2JDOXRtN2o0RkQweHZfeHBFbXpfX0stOE9HQlQtM18wWjNwOEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5X0Z1WjZhNVlfUkhoRTJOTEgwMnlGam5felhVS2gwalQ4S2VwejFVaG50blFReUxEaE1fRi1FQm9mM0dXd096Q1BLb3o0Q3gzS1k4bDZTSGpXcFdlYm9VMnU5bFdlR19EaVJybWdydW9XRjhlbmNhMVpVeHNfMzZIQlh0OGk1blZxaUJKZDM3TzdHYmpNSGFfMldYbUdqcGJDa0xNY0xERmNzNGoxS3BudGZwRnJrdHlaRF9ZNkJTX1JQcmVmNVhP |
I donated! Let's do this! | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoydlFyTEdHZmtDM2NFckdFWWwzeTY1VUhMTTRNX1lQZ19aUGNkcWQ0bWN4V1pTN21fUUs2cXpKTWNFOHFRNW5SZ1luc3BNdGc1cnhTRklYREZsd1Q1bnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WEVvOGZtUnZSdXVYdTFvMVpyektBQ2tDM245N05BOG5jV1pLUUpRc244Wmxwd0Y4UmhyeHRGS2hhZzA4R0w2Y1Y1cXRXdW0zUm5MYmhIUk9VelpMWmVkNzZvaWxsb2x3dDdtNGhmOGNneHRzdkg2VEF2clZnWWVpaGJoQUdxMl9ESE4yTF9MTXNDOGpfZTdRNUZiZ1lfTmpZRk93THlkRVN3M3RxV2lJVE9hbHEwYnBLVHNCTzNjN19ZYWNjR3ZUTnl4M3FCc1ZIVUxQUnB1QlNLdjNDUT09 |
Let me preface this comment with: I am very gullible.
Someone posted [this MCU Netflix original](http://nottonyharrison.tumblr.com/post/126574804003/give-me-my-kate-bishop-neflix-series) that will be about Hawkeye, Kate, and Lucky. I was half asleep when I saw it and just about pissed my pants with excitement.
Then I realized it was a fan edit. So... I'll keep hoping. That Black Widow and Hawkeye get their own shows/movies. (And don't share one) | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyXzJnb2JKa18wMU1GLWRVV2hqZ1paVTFHNUx6cV9Ra0hMd1o1NVZPbk96X2cxYkFNdUtIeEJqSW5NQkhwRlZZc1hXc0loUldycE9ELWpjOFlSN0cwc2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5MkdBZHpVN1VScm1oQzNkZEZNY1h0ZmRrWjE5OUdNZ1lXcHhDaG1hVk1WWURUOFlnTk5qOXBRUzlEcXNzeW5wdjFCSjNlNXdzZHk4LVE1b3FmMmZ1c1FkSGVlTndlM0RlbkpmZWxKTlB6UkEtY1dZUGNCS1JSZFVjWnZNajhnRkpySmtDT2dKemthN2luZ3hJOHZkdUY5TEQ4UjQ0MUF0OFN6aGVPSkhJZmcxMFp5eC1WdlRmS3FRcDNuZG1jNGVj |
This is just going to dilute the Left vote and make it easier for the Right to win. He should announce running only if Bernie doesn't win the Democrats nomination. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMXpKSFFFX3hBMnQ3c1hCeGdURFVYZHkxSXZJX1lzRDBCY3NjdGlUSjBoMkNXX0YtQTM5R09MblVCTjBMUVlOMEpsUFEtMEFwUXRSQWlJTVVKSXBpS3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5ZWdWWGo1V0UxNEo1TFN0SkREN0pCQVdIMGt3aC1JSHAxYTE5WHUwc1V1eVNHekp1NWpqZlZqSDFuLVdpQTZ0RnZCM0w2STM2ZllwNGpsb0w1c3BnZFBEZ0ZIVXB2Vk9WeE14djRIUGVzemdzc2tJaTlpb0hqRWVuTzFuaW1tNks3TmVDUURyMWJPUWJSdXkyTzBsSGhGVFFub3hXTDdqdzc5aXktT1F5NDJ5dHNSWmp6U2gxQV9NcWV3SDNBVVpvYk1vZ0VCNXdCTlVSbmNDbVRFT2daZz09 |
How could it dilute the left vote?
He's running in the democratic primary, and if Bernie or another candidate steps up for the reform, he's saying he won't run. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyYWJsOVhkOTdBOFhETG1MWjlXWk5scEJ2RUJCalVmQkxHZmhSNG56dmp5eE5SaFlyVGJ1ZmZRUkdSX21JakNQcHFtNHpqVEJ3VHdzNTFQbjdPMEplWkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UVcwNWRySFRPUFNvUS1pTjkzYTVOVUtySGdLNTVDVHdqckRmRzEyS1dxbC1NNnZ4dUl2TkdlOF9ZbHktai1qZERzejJrWXpEQmdMdTM5QXQzVl84U2wtak1qN09QWDhnWVVudUtQblZTYkFXYU1iVTgybll6UTBUTnNPVTNoOGNXVHVVTUV5emVHQ2VwaGl2NTdvX25WZDhncTNzTHpkNVl0N2Y3MkpnOVBHMHR4NTVqM185YmFvTFgzYWpGUDhXYUpYX2QwVmJrSC1WdVhhVmNEUU0zZz09 |
I didn't realize he'd said that.
It's commonly agreed that if Nader hadn't run in the 2000 presidential election, that Bush probably wouldn't have won.
I just don't want Trump to be president, because Lessig ran for office! | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyeFZpLXUtV2I4TTE0ay12eEI5ekwtTFlFYVFiX3N3R3Z1WjJPVmFtM1dybjdlOENWQ2pfUEFLWHBpeGY5Q0h2V1I0YW83WDFldmZqclNVeGNULUNHYVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5NFNlX2ZSSzhkVEp1cHZ6SVVoMzJ5Q2VEY0dPeFdpa0VSRHFwRlhlSElSMVNzTUtkRnZac2I3a0lnWV9LZHBKajkyYXpuTHVYaUpKamdfLV9CNzRZLUNYRWVDR09nNzRjWnExd1J2SzJyYzQwazVxaHVPMzV5QmNLa3VXWnhwcEZ0eElia2o0SzZXU3NUYXZTTVRCbUhPcmNWajFGYTVFLUxYQW13SXRJXzZBNTAwQy1EVVBYZVo5T3dzaFM4bDZsVWgxM3VmUUVMbXNVRnVtX1hmdE92QT09 |
I think Bernie detailed fighting against citizens united as part of his platform. How is Lessig's bid different? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyQmtXbF8zU0JSR0pxYnoxOW10V3ozcG44UWg0WkRlenZORkR2eUtvYThzbEsyM3M0SHg3V2tYTm1sdnV5eHE2SDVobGluRHhEWFI0NmVrSWRDbUpXc3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5V3JTOGhZZkJLdmQ2ZVJDZ3hVamtHZERPLXlYdGdNWDFaTWUwcDM0WGxfR055SzMtck9UWmhNdk1OR1UyaUphbDhhbk9pd2tiemNJcUN3RndiZkdIVVdzWU9BWkRiRnhUeS1IN0VYYWI3NS0tdjRyQWhfVTdGZ21BQmpQejRIQk5WanhJTGg4cHIzcWNaeGw0VjlsN2tkXzEtb05CbU5XS3dOeWRKZ3RQbUNWOU9mU3pDWlJya3pjUmkxbjE0bWt5dDQzUFBpUF9EY1MxbHFPRWxmVjdjdz09 |
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>IM SORRY it's a total lie
Please, Marvel, *pleeeease* | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyOWQ3UTVYLTdwY1I2RmZtME9QaFV6SWstX09nY3ZkM3dLNkFPT3M2b2JxblVGSVVMTWcwN080SWgxOEZfOEVIeGhHNTBJdDNzRk5pVVR4elF3WXR0aWF4OHlGNlAyRXJBdW1OUWhsX1l3ZTQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WnlUM3pSd3hvUkJFR3IxN3ZUTnRkTUlqU19lLVN6VlpKaWNhZkRHMVUydTQ1dU96Tlk5MkxpUlV5U2Z2M3ozTkV0a09XdjJoMzgzWUtQdy1pcVZyb25ZMXRVM29hb3JJT0N4bEJ4ZjBENk9ObG1HT2VsMVcwWERabW85d1RsWHkzN3JRVVUzZkdEWFp0anFEbzNsakk2TDZEWEVCWUFjNHgyQ050Y0twREdpcGM0QS05c08xVDMtb2JFWm5wN1Fs |
That rule sounds like it came out of the 60s-90s watching of tv. Something that bad would become their inherent trait, and I know where she's coming from on that end. There's a want to keep going back to that story line or back to that justification or whatever.
| r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMGxMd0dkS21MRTE1UEhsbDdzaUgyR1V0alJsVHUzSEZEeXZkOXVKMGlzWVo3NTQzZFJsREMzbmZuUEstdzhQUFZ6Nno1bkgxaUVBQ3ZpazB1aUNYenc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5LXNOQ09HNTcwUnFqcWV0VnZsVGwtNW44dl80RFNkN1lVTzV6M19wbTVKTUZYUHRzQVprYkFFVWxPOFZLdjNCcERObFM0ZVZSejZGNklUOG5tWmFhRzJ6SEVuYmlzNEV5bll4eGRBOHNLV2ZJSTBnRy0yeHl3TTRETzNpaEtJZVV3YmZqQ19LY3ZVQm4zR3hEODIwbVlWMHlfY2NsN0Nld2tVa0Z2eXlfU25sWHhzdzZNUEhtWlhORnhzb1YtNFZwWVBCNHNYUC1IcDRsdk9fZFdKU212QT09 |
I just watched all the vids they have them had to subscribe. My favorite might be the Hogwarts letter.
Thank you for sharing this!! | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyeXd6Q0pVOXVMcFo5c2xUTS1CSFdsTU5tN0N1ZDk2TzRtN3NfakxUd0t1aHN3RTJ5US01OVd0S2JLSUZjU01oS0Zpd1RGMld3amwxakJ1djV3X3ZHQ3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5QWtFWGlmY3RSeHduUUVQeXJxSmdTUjA3U3ZJRWFLLWF0WWFmTmszTGEwZkdyZTYybm5ORmR0ZzFWRmd0bzhQSTBlRUgtOENLc2p1RjdYUWdJZGpfTk95eGFmbGJLUy03Z3dSMEtWcmNtVkxiV1gwTXctSFhEcjdsYW8xYk93cktsR3dDR1U3RVJqaGFuNUhNZmFmRDdFdnp1QlpISmJLUm1ScXJ2aDJoNEZEOWk5U29hdFAybmFMVDg4cDJQU3NoTUdBUkY3OFdraFI0c3lESmFTU19rdz09 |
Yeah it came up on my phone so it was cut off at weird places so I didn't see that.
And duuuude, I was recc'd a weird pairing (Clint/Coulson) and whereas I can't see the ship, I fell in love with the story. Written kind of like the Hawkeye comics you recc'd me. It is pure fluff and adorableness and ship aside, I want you to it. http://archiveofourown.org/works/4558095 | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyTlNBNGFWcDh2ZHU0Z1RvRmloZWNCM3d6WUZRWGgyU25XazB4NDZmUGw5ZnlSWXZMdVB1WW9QT1NVbE9wSTgzNW0tTGYyWkI1RFdmenhubzhobnlDR0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TEdQdFlZcDV4cFloUzhaQWxaWllBMlZNOWs2LXRNdUhsS290WHNDOURGcGM3UWZjUzM0b1liVV9XX2hOMkZicEpFS2FTd0V5MXpGUk5zbFF4NENLdlQ4Q0xYZm1qbHpfWks2cGdzMko0NkFEN0tyQkRfbW1taDhCSTUyVC1nODVsWWlrNHY3cURwWGQ4Q1hudjFFWGhLb0hhYWZSVC1VdDhlZVdHZ0lFSjF3Qkhmbk5vTFFCMU1tZlRjVGhkUEN3 |
Totally agreed with the author of the article. Anne Rice is literally getting angsty about critical reviews another author is receiving... an author who wrote a romance novel between a concentration camp commander and a Jewish concentration camp survivor... or she may have died in the piece; idk... so like, are you fucking serious? Who *didn't* think that story would get a kickback?
Like it actually makes me laugh how anyone would ever think such a premise would be free of offended people. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyakFGajdPaDl2TTIyeGlKNmF6ZzFIN1diNmVsWlc2Q1VYRXBESmtRQ0pfZC1DVXN1T2YxazdLVC1jb1dCUkQyS0FVOC16V0RxekpJcjBtN0duckFEOXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5SnpEUTNDS3hhUzcyUFNjTXltTElSNl85U3ZmWUd6dTlUWE1JS05uWFVsSlk2M3U4ZEdRSTNaS1p2alZQUW1iaGV1UTROTUtoeWt4T00yamRrY2YxTWs1MjJXQXdTZXVaTmJPMWRUZzBMZllPcXMtdUlVSlZQZ0tkZ09BS2ROd0ppdHhrUWlqRkt1TG5hR2N6RHRtcnIxS2sxeExiYktBdFZUZEhPQVAtejBNbUtabnA1TFo0UENJek9iR3EwTVVRbFkyQ0o0OTFhTURZWmR5eDBTNEMzZz09 |
Please read something for once: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/13/i-m-running-for-president-to-quit.html | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyQU55NFBUV3pRdXV1N2ZrNGVyaDFGT3VtcjllTkh4YnNrVzhucF80czZmQmtFQjUwUy0zUlFDcWJ0N3NkWFhpVUN6QUpYYmN4TjRLdzQzRm1qWW5jZWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5QnBUS1hrNmxXNmV1M3Jwbm1FUF9FY2hGX2NmczRFZnRuYmJ1NTlvYm5qUF9HdFJPZHk5T1ZvWmN4QlB4Rkx5MVc5ZXdnZ1BUazd5Nnp5UUdlWlVSRDJpcm42YkNMVjlHNmE5ZHBtc3AtSnVNdEpsYTlGRWFlMHBhVUVCNjhoeVdaeU50ckdSYWJsbVBOWlhoUzVDNXFzNGpRX2hzLXdzQmF0azNSTU9qTXA4N0FGMWdzUG5wbVptVmlObC12clNrSHE0c2JmZGRNVUM5U2ZmTFdBdU5xZz09 |
Spoiler alert, but Anne Rice is kookoo froot loop nutting fucks to the tenth power, and has been that way for a couple decades.
This is the same woman who in one of her vampire books wrote a shower sex scene between twins, one of whom was dead and had died as a baby but had "aged" as a ghost (I might have misremembered that last part). Yes, necrophiliac twincest.
No, I just checked, I think I'm right about the gross stuff, and the last bit was right. I haven't read it in 10 years, and it pretty much put me off her completely. blargh.
But back to her condemnation. No, she doesn't have to read a book to support it, BUT she also doesn't get to invoke "but PC IS EVUL" when other people are voicing THEIR opinions of a book. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyY1M5eWt5WDFaNlVtWUFxM1ZuV3ZDMUk2VXVDc2hob3lDZEtaS3h3VGUyanQzOUhfd3I3aHJsazdWYWNkaUhpZE5UNDZLTXUxN19XVy1UWEgtQ3FsTFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5cWQzYzl1RzRsY3E5T1ZfZHYzNmo1TjRXQl85dE5LMVoyRVZ5NTVJWWFENFVRY1lXaDl4cVhPZ1czWE1qUTVneW5EMVBrQU9pLUEtSkJkRDY2UWxLRVFQMktsTnQ5VGNpTUdBS0xJVFVlbC14MnFid1pWa3BJMWpRa014WllFaFRkZmRhMkRnNmktc1RmeHRTTkhnNmI0TW1TOHVucGZFSFNCZW5HSmkzNUJ1bHdWZko4UHI1d3RqT0g0RXVkOVVYSG1KZWlYNlNYM1ZSMTdEczFWVjRkdz09 |
Yeah she's well known for being a bit loopy... I remember as a kid after watching "Interview with a Vampire" for the first time saying I really wanted to read her books and my mom was like "no... no don't read her. Read all the Stephen King you want but not... not her" lol
edit: flash forward to reading an abused 12-yr old girl have sex with like 3 other boys in a sewer system at the end of IT. I went to my mom being like "seriously?" and she was like "I totally don't remember that" and I was like "HOW DID YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT?! I AM *12*!" lol | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoydjBvSTNLYk95Qk11Q21XN0VZY25ZZnpFbnBndXRQRDFqMTNfZW8wSVBUazNrbXRURDBXSVJYY2lNM0g2U2toT3pSeldOY3FTRHZLaGVjbWc2cEZzNnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Wm1WZE94NkI0b1dFZWNiQjBJVlh5elJKbWsxY3FsMTVEbEdVcS1EellMMEtxZWlaNlNUSjhyV1VncHZ4MU1ES0RFSUNRLXRlNVBvVkV1MXBNNk9VOVBkVGU5STN4cEYyX2tyYWEwZVdZSWhhRXNBUlVEdHhDaHhFUVhCdk5EdFNzTzdNb21RMzlVRTFEdTFVOWtfTmRFNkM3Zm1OWHNfQ0luNkFISzJycU93a2JkUWpNVHJDY0lUZmRRdlBTOHZOVGw4U1p1cXZPMEhQWXgyTmxjRk41Zz09 |
I really loved the first three or four, but I got really tired of the absolute hard on for Lestat everyone had and up to where all of his sins were forgiven. One of the first writing lessons I ever learned was from her: "don't fall in love with your characters."
But even I was "so.. he's a rock star now. Really.....really..." | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyOVl2cnNER2xPcHB2OGJJbXU0blRkaDFuckhBWE56YzRKb0pUZ0t0N3dKZ2dOckphS3l2c3I3bjNkRWNqRWlJNU1fUGdibkJDeDZWODVIdkFVdmZud1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5S3hwcml0dU1wM25hQjZKdEtKX0VFalFUTGlZZmFLeFF2M2ttNDZaeEJtWlB1MzVKRFZWSGVGeG9SMWI2cmtFYVJkWnZDek9uNm1Ocjg1RW10Uk03cTFEZ21JUEVBdlZEejltZXo1aHBxZzN1bDN2YzhiTWxLNGpGMkUxYnkzbGpUbVpORktuNFZiYmliLXlha0Q4QmVacGJjbENXd1J6b1hvOVhPMHZXVUNRc1hJUmEtXzE5aF9MQW11YjdVMk1TT0libThwb0c1OE50UVktLWJ5Z2Nudz09 |
So basically...let's take votes away from Bernie in the primary because he's not shouting loud enough about *my* issue?
Jesus...what is it about every Democratic constituency trying to bash Bernie, not because he doesn't agree with them, but because he doesn't agree with them *vocally enough*? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyY1BuRzdHRTNwVXhicHF2dzMyUC1vLWtTZEtKQkpEN254dTg2YXhzSnJQdEYtaGhCdW40S05kWDA1NDJHUVB1Sjh2THhBMVJRT0x0Wmt3U25Ba3FmdGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TFhkcHpXRjNoM25oX01halVVcUtzWmJJN2l0WFFPUXNhUzRKc1Y0dXFLNGRqZFpnMHZMM1g5cy1zZlZ6VmdRZmVlWWdrcHBPZkVqY0wzTUwzWnZJQkpRUzZLSFY3RXRSVzJ3cHNMNUVsU190ZTZ4VGx6aUM0eEVrZUNPLXB4UnVReWotQjN5QXV5N24xNXhSekJQRkpkXzlNa09BX192VDByQTBqcHFRWjEwZXFNNFFXM1VIRElQckd6OHBwZC1xbG5nU2NoVjl2ZmVBRkRMUWtaLWZpQT09 |
It's cool, it's dramatic, but honestly. Even assuming he wins, what can a president do to actually bring this about? The bully pulpit is powerful, but it's not magic. I donate to mayday PAC, but I really don't see why Lessig thinks this is a smart idea. Maybe he just wants attention for his ideas, if so great, but he better pull out before the primaries. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoydDJKdHliNWtYaUVXMEpjMjhJcTlLN1dqZXFUX0xnZXVBSE9uQXluQWFJWDZiQzY2ZERsSHdXZ0tRYzJjMFZZeEl4MUxSU0pxLXlkV3ZJWEc0bnVtOEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WDJraVp3aTExSWZZUms5NExlR3U5VjF4Y1kya0JGTWN1aC0zaDF6dUVTTmZvcmtRWEN3c2NWODJVWnR6ZUZubldEUC0wblpqam9QOVh4V25ILThTYzRSNlFkTFFOTnVtRGY4YXp5YVpmM08zXzFMd29SVnl5WjMxT0Znak1GM3R5NjlodGc0cmh0WlV2ZmtmbVY2Rjc2RVN2S0UyeFFaeHZXcFdjVUJfRHhVZFZUWjM5MDVhOGM0NGtWQkd4YTRMdzBUUllzVkxEdV8wc0xjaDZObnF2UT09 |
Don't know if you can listen to this outside of UK, but there's a really in-depth fanfic discussion, including slash, mpreg and a/b/o...
Yes, I present to you: the BBC. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyaDVCTDBxT0VQNUJJc0lVUmIwTVB5Zjc5Mm8wLXpFQWE0RFB1X1psd2NhSnJ6RWpmdWhOR3dtS3dXRHpGR3NQRWY2cGZjeENJNVN5SnFadkdVb1MtelE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5LUthTV9GQVhlcEV4TkJidUVZSzZtbExoTF9HSWYwb2tsclRwV0hhX3JfTFdBSXZuTF9UYUtPbl9GM1J1cmJWR1d6TnRrSkFiYUFwN3U0aE02VF9ScERQajBlNlcxTl81N2VVNUhJWlRMTUliSjV2Y00yNXp5WkhaOHdhbDdwVUMyenRWMnRJZ3dsSkxEQmZYSDJQbUlsUmZsS3FiQWdBNDVmT3E2RVg5VmhEZXJYQTYzZWl1SkdzTFhBMTZQNk9nU19nT3NpVlFzbFI5SE5CZmxJNjRxZz09 |
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For real, though. I'm reading through the Dark Tower again and just got to a part where Susannah has to distract a demon by calling on one of her alternate personalities to distract a demon by fucking it. SPOILERS: Then she gets pregnant and gives birth to a spider demon (only that's not entirely true, either, there's another alternate personality that apparently exists in another dimension and *she's* the one that's pregnant).
So yeah. King isn't exactly well known for writing children's books. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyeVhQQm9aeV9EUEQ1c21JdGpuV0pBQkVOZlRRNXpaOGlGVTZHcGRoUWg3Q1lrN3dTd1RoU3JMbXd1cmpHX1BYT1BPQ0gyYUh3cmlNcEtTQXpLYkRXbkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5QVNCUFZZcGdmYWxnOWFPWGFOODVmVHQ5STJkM0tFWXhnWk93T1czT1ByZ2lHeHI2STBBdGlGalVCZWoteHhaSHVId0VOQ1piUURtSkRvd3Y1MWlVYTlZdmdmRTdVdWNncGhJYU1MdEwtODFINUo3OWV2X3BSTVl3b1IwLXl5ajdXRWx4M0VNOGp6WGFiV1NkUkNQV2k4U0xHaTJPYTZHZXRGVGhBLVF3VTVaN3NTMnliS0FCRGVCN245eS1MbGpJNTdXdWxYM295UGM2b1hSQlBaTm51dz09 |
The BBC.
A/B/O.
What. WHAT.
*Wipes a single tear from eye while desperately trying to keep a straight face*
Sometimes I love my country, you know? | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyLVR2ZktRQUI3dDFCYTJqckpQY2ZsNzRWelhCNG1xczd1NW1nbHhLdjNQeWFiaEg4MExhbUxKVE1taFlRN0FFeTR5dVdSRVlkbnpsRUZZWWJQc2JJSUxnb29CTExQWmhmZURNSkEwUUozWTA9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5dzhORHB2cXFlMGQxUlZJN2hkYldtOXZXZVNiX3dXek9BaTR1dkc4Ul9aWDVGTlAxa0Yta2pfc0tobFBRVjgxN01DM0FsMUN5dmNseDRnUWdCQXNoLXl4QTNPRWxPeWY3RmEzZ21TSmtWekI3VGtlcW5HUF96c0hHblc1ai1rLXIzckthNzhIX3JXaXdPVllsb0dtQWQ3YUF1ZGd6QklfS0dwWkoxb2U5Wml2M19DRjI4eGNaZWgwMVpPRmxGMU9qNExIcXY4czhZaV9TN3B4Wl9xMnBIZz09 |
Pride and Prejudice with DRAGONS. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyQWQzZ0xuNGp1b3VKdjZoM3p3Ynd0MW9NdTFVRmFHaks2WGFqdFdxaVlwZXhjWWNEY294U0lEUzZwZHFybkxJNVAwNUN1VXJmeXlEQ0ducEFuRk9oYndFYThnd3Z2WlE4ZTVPSjRyamZoR0E9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5RERTbWx3eFlxMTZXXzRPNzVaQTZybldCQ0ROWnVSMENpOFh0dERkMkFyOFpWV3B3dkh0M2dSRkpQRFJGbGtyWUk4bTh5NlkzYURTOW8yeHhTQk4wZHk2T3NMaXF0LUpqc0xLT0ljX19vQk9vQndySDFQR01TWEU5M05KVUFLdjR3bUhlNDhuNGxSdWpNZE1WVWw2OUNLVXlpWS1fZzdHZVN6Njk5NnJ1REVVWm5GdVZ3OWJPamtPYkxNM0QtbDk5TkJZQWFJa1BhN205Z1ZCNnd1UHU2QT09 |
This is perhaps the only thing I'm glad my license fee has gone towards this month. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyM0M1X3EtTG1ESllYOUhFcU1KMnRPYmRucnZZWmpHMDVCTmtDS3RWeUhSVC1mY1VnMkQxWXdVSVBIdFk3QW9EWWd6UEFOSWh3ajNnQ3FBckdVVjFVNFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5b3MwQjZLMlBFYTBkR0JqVEF1Vi1VdnRNWEdtUEt4VjA3WEdBNUMtSFcwZzlZNFl4WmVrYUVjRVlkZEFRcXBaUW8zTXVUNHFYYjAxblRoRGl1LUtYRUxhRUYxbHdIa01ZUVFtR3RvWE5RelJSV3FvOVZsRFUtazlJNTRxOWVqNExTeFhUU0R1WFVYNEp4eDN3dU80VU92TTE0QktjMTdvN251S0R3cXc5MnFIS0N3SkJFVnNBMmNuaVFoRkJLU094ckE5N3Q2SFhmNDR0R2RDcXpwcTBBdz09 |
And they call fanfic 'fanfic', not the awkward 'fan fiction'. These people are the real deal, guys! | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyU1ZCZXh4Zkt0TUdkTUZLWTE1MjdLV1FjSlk0VVhxQWEzcXhXcnJmUUZ5MnZlVjB1X1pORER3S2JzcXpPLVY4cENHSjJZc2dUX0xCNkd2RVppcXFqUS1rbEFHdjR3Vm9OZkMzRmdKcUZIaDQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5anQ4VDF5TUNKMlFybXVWVnZLSC1lZWQwWXFWc3RlcThWTlhadzZqaEpodTdEMlg4MDFSUFdKNkJ6Y3hhcDdJWXpmOTQ3cjlyaE1Xa2lSYkZLWEM3WE9xVmY1SF9DUUlSTmN2Q29ORV93VmcyRGI2a2J1cWVRaGlFSjA1dXQ4cEZzMTRBWGpObUlGVmRLa29seFFueHVmZ1RPR2htckpiWGZtdlB1S2dXZ2dwd3BXMExjMFFpY21FdWJmWjRaRlpzeE51Wm02RGxZYWJpci1DQVNkNXcxdz09 |
Oh god, they're not even referring to it in passing. Nope. A/B/O is in central, actually properly discussed... kudos to them for bravery. Also, I love how they had to discuss with the producers about whether they could actually discuss it. Some things we dream up here in fandom are a *bit* on the wild side, it seems... | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoySVdPTG5oNmFEN09XamlKRjhrTkVBTE5kZmRpbHhIV1V6dmRrZHlCZVZCajNwRHFIS2Q0NVlBUnRlUmNhQW84a1gtTk15SFdSN1VYalIwQjg4SmgtRnIyR3NVOTI4cnp0Wk9JTm1JcTU5alk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5VnlySS12UTV6a01mdUF0YXV5eHBCREtQQXIyMVIwQ1ZYX3VJcnNjTV90Q2k3ZUYxYnl6QU5VeUh0a0JDRGVZREtzUl9DMXlFT3NNLWo1dDVIYmxIYUxEQjJtNS03dVJjZW1kLUhOUS1qWXdROXlZNWNHXzE5bU5DcDhuRXc3ck82M0VOaE5OR1E4ZkNFYUMzQzQ2d1JKSS1UWERPQm85amF0SmhUb3l1NWMtcGEzS0Rsc21uNThoNzc2Z0NyTmxESFVTMGNHOURJQlpTRU80TjdfeVByZz09 |
These things are supposed to remain hidden!! LOL
Seriously though, I'm excited to listen. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR3c2TklkM2JIOTY3VTZWeWpvSXllU3MzOV9kX2FxQVBYR2ljNE1VcHNwMGppRWlXYWJhYVI4bWJENHlTXzRWS0hZTkloNmd1TnBKdm1FRUc0VEkwbWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UDlWbHE3NnQ5cFd4dzE2cXZrNF9iVlZFMjYtX2hmUmRTWkloMjZrZk9yWElWS2VzM3lVTXNDSzRGRzBMNFhUVlJsbGdQazBmYnZyMUxzNWtJVEp1bFExWTZPYk8xdGppOExOTDVoeW1jTTJsaHJtX1BuWXhCUUl3U1hiVTBLX2VIYjR0el85WGRKYmtaRW5XbjJVa3lhay1famZlQnFJX003Um52Q1VMUzBacWNMRGl6VkJDNFBoZVhBLXdHaF9pblpmZlNCdHRTam16XzdVNUo2VlYxdz09 |
His heart's in the right place, but he just doesn't seem to be very good at using his money to achieve political outcomes. Wish he'd stop grandstanding and actually do some good with his organization. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoybURBdW5NWG1EUEtHeGF2bVRZc2g5NWZSOWpnOWtoWEtwLXBDTkpiMjFFSktkeGpNS0EwdjU2TEw5NXowWlRyNlItRDZVMmtoLUdrYUpoMHBabjhobVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5MXNaZWdkTEpWUDl5dGFmNVE0UklXREFpUElEQlhiNnhlbnUzXy1xd1lPeWFDb2dqY2RZNm9IQmpxVnktTlJ4MFk1M1ZlbnU4UHkyM1VhVjVMTmZGR2RuZjZ2SmJ5NkdWaDBNeVpvMWdoN05Rc1ZCUzRrVVdCeDVPWUFOaXZnYkxBRmg4U1h6SU81Tkx5Q2NIeFZ2RkFxaE9wQ2hfSExmYzhIaHFHOWVLUkdBOXJlQVktMHJyQXhoZEI0QmFZb3FlRzBCZVdub0kxVXdtbTEtcEszSGVjUT09 |
He won't win, but he might prevent Bernie, who is already in favor of campaign finance reform with teeth, from getting the Democratic nomination. So if this is about ego, by all means run. If it's about being effective, do something else. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoydGRFaS1sTlBzNzN4aVRMQVVYOFBwdzBkb3BSWVFYYl9jdkZaTXdlWmxhbnZuSlhmZmJFMnhjZlZxZldMVGFtUjZkZGdDcS1LODJiSjlZTzFYcC1ITXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5NW1OMGNvY3daZVpuRTl1SkJOejhpdlRtLXZHUjNORWJ2OW81SDE3bWp2MFFOdWFGSkZMUExOZ0dPQmp5Ull1Yzc4Zmxxb3VjNGlycy1UUmxrMjM2VVNUWG5PbXBkZ2tyaGxNXzBSQWFla09XclZ2MklBa0F1dk1HeDFqZGIzWUIxSWFjb0RIb1AyZDNHSjJPbFRsTTNzNnJLZWxYVFdMbFBhVnUtQW92SmR2a3FieXQxYWJZLVV3NXQ4MndlbHRsNHozUFBiR2tDX0pZR2JBZ0ctdElvQT09 |
This move has really made me regret donating to Mayday PAC. I'm afraid Lessig's ego has gotten the better of him. This is not a tactically sound move. If Lessig wants to make a difference in a government role, he should run for senate, where he actually has a vote on this issue and could introduce a bill. We need more liberal senators, but it's a full-time job, not a one-issue hobby. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMmJpUkJhQ0tDTElhSVdYME5nOHRtNndBZzJhS0JUazhYbjVndVN6N05WVmdXdDRKRUhDNXdLOWtrYWgtRzE2Yi0yTkZsWUN1RHp3X1ZlUXZWdzYxYmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Mi1Nek1xY0Q2RF90eXZQNUU5SnZtYkg0S2ZXU0gzOGE2QmJRS1lwWHNLS3FZbGhOTUVXblotVzRLWWpDUXZUbWZEM2lxRlhCOTk2Y0xweXpuakJvS1BjMEZpUlJVTkpKOFUwTU5wMmVsbVFwUGZvQzA2QnV1c2U0V3c4S29OQXB4cnBwbHk2M1ZmZHN2RDdEQ1c4LWo4RDVFUDQzRXdJdGVBWWdKaFhMYmUtVGJDSG5kNWM5cndacmhudlJWanFQdTdua1VoSTE4WGxTcWNOTzQ2UDRWQT09 |
Okay this makes more sense. "Who is listening to the BBC on these subs??!" Sheesh. Mystery solved. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyeFluMHpXd1J1SXJWNXpWNXAtTlJzVXFGa0MwYjFKeWY0YnhNb0NqT3FDS1dRcGo5ellWSE9SNk1vcmNxcUdNQy1ic2RXZ0VuOENKUkFqY1hpTkVJbWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5alFlMlI5QUFJRS1mTGliS2lUU3I4bEFSSk5FRjFSVjF1dVFqMDF2dkl3V18tUVUyRDZDNGpYeFE1Wi1aQU9QSk5WY014VFpid3JHc3FBaVowV3FXSm9Fc29HSnU1NUZXNTBuY1htdGpoZ2Y1dTRRblA2bHJuR25mZ05IelB0THFCSWUzNnR3c01iQXlUSm91d3J4OEkydjFtM21rdHZ3bnFlRERlSjF0OW9tVnZ1amJtT2p2QVVDLXlvUDZBRjNkcGxyYXRTZzlXTGJQOElxVzdSSDBYdz09 |
I'm a license fee payer too. My money helped make this happen. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyWmZBR0dfa29KM0t2bFBIWEY2SXdpSjE2S3VQR09NTW5MUWl3TDNDeUNHcFJnTnBnUFRNMXZqODh5NmdsUFVRUjRxeXZhNmlnOWotWXVrVjF4dTlVaVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5bDE3WG14eXR3NjVqbWpPb0t0X1VvYzRSRVVWTlNMRE83WmZYdHZYYnFTTEVpaFlBQjdKUDhWTTMwTGUydWc2RTY2Ni1UT1lTWGRxQUlGNnI5c016VU1nNGZIWmdSZWZpelZDZjY1amZoejNqb1kya1pXdk5EOFUyaFJFeGZhVmJHYmNRMkF1UHVBOGhSNTlEM2ZvNHFxcHU1R0ZBTTQwcGF6azJud0VuOS11cG0tYnR4Wm9wRmZKRk0zLTJrQ0xUd2lXLXZwY3BRNFlKYUI0V2N0YWJKZz09 |
Lessig has written about this issue in more detail here:
[Why No One Will Reform Washington](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/16/why-no-one-will-reform-washington.html) | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyZDJrNDZJX24xQ040T1VZa2NsQUhQd1BqSFhjSzY5MjBvMlZoZWJrZXhvck9FQU5zMkFqVGhPU3l1LTNyS1NwcGZMTHNTQWQ4OEk1ZjV0cElfTVlkZWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Zlk5QVJnemcxSmdnT29nbmFocWVpOXg3OVd0cnoydlZXRHZROFRRXzRidWtBN3NrS2RvWXhXdDEzamFvbEwyeXZUZV83djlXVm4zeGktakZ6eHZwU0VUb09iVFFFWDh3d2Q4Q1JwWTVEYk8zSHY5UXE0ekxwR2U3SlFoQXo5TGJjLURlZHdPcHh5ZDJ5ZU5RYzZkRFphWTYyMWtaRXZhVDk4SWRCZ0NIZ3hXOFZnS3RCUkNmcGswdWlGcTB2d3FYbXBITXBWMnZkNWFsTjlxLTBPdWFYdz09 |
I'll have you know that I know several people who would pay full price for a licensing fee just to get full internet access. It's not from a lack of international interest on our parts. The BBC specifically shuts it down on our end. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyV3g0bFpSWGFRZ3N0MW9FTHFvcWhiN0VINEkzUEcxcWJtMDhoMEJRREd0Tl9lYWZRYzE3MlhqVHljcng3cjhoc1JOYWwwSUNiM3hrZ1I0YkdtOFNTX0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UjNKcXpna3YyUnM1WXVJaEpTUUFEWUswTm45YklBODhFMkF5Z0pKX3owaTQ2Y2d2NVZ1SHZVM1BQb1RIWDl4Q3NrTDVFT1pBdm1PSGVfb1FXVVRZUlBrclhyOTVuWUNrNlZQS3k1bjhWS2lsOFBfalpHRTI1eE5jOHFyU0FQNE1pTVpnR05ia1hENlZwTDJWeDVsZU5hVjVYU1MwNWpQWmFpTGJmYjBkNjUzaTRTVW5pVW1DZHdsb0l1SUQ5QUN2QV9WVDdlT0NHTUlpZUhzNUxLaGpNdz09 |
Oh, I know. I'm on your side there.
They shut it down so they can whore the content out through BBC Worldwide for extortionate amounts. You know, selling broadcast rights etc... rather than sorting a proper version of an online subscription service themselves, because the people at the top literally don't understand how media viewing habits have changed over the past five years.
Meanwhile, back in the UK, much of the BBC content that goes online is only accessible for a limited time.
Much prefer Channel 4's online offering, less restrictive time wise though not ideal. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMHhxaXhhQzVkMDFiQzNpUGh3T0x2bEhEVWc5alVxMDV0VmluYlkwZVJNeWg1TUZOczB5WkJsc0RsV0E1MW1oR3FtelcydGdyYTk3c3VkNzE5OExtWmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5bHkydVZlYW1QdlE4QWk1X1BCcWhRRllfaVhRYjYyTUhuSWJKVHk2YzJ4SW10MDRYNF85Q3JGUkdPdUh4NEQ5b1BNY1pDMVVnWTd4dWlyWkFxeDVzZlJqZUFISWRzaDBhcm5tMG11N2Nkb1dMaElyU0tTWlNVblNOLVJZMEpLcUhYSlF6a3JfUmxPNFZieGV2dW01NVdEbEh0V0RwVlZOOUFfLVpibzllR0pIdXpDQmF2cmF0US0tbzdPSm1GeVFPSkZoc2pZYVlDYWR1SU1hNUVMWFFKdz09 |
I was having this conversation with people 5 years ago. I have an entire back catalog of BBC podcasts just rat packed onto my computer. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMlpSb1AwLXdoN2JmTDhIWXpzQlQyVDBwY1lsX1NOM1BIc0NNXzdCY2dEY3RjeFJhdzZlVm9MWk1XY3ptWXBNc1lhSDdoLVc3em9MVHA3X2JlTS00cUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TVlwRU9SY01hRGdIZ2NjdE4tNnlaMWxrNnJGVlRmdlIxQUpOT01YTVlTT2J2bWExQ1praUxhQWZxUElJM2pFcGdpbjAyZTl1ZWkwTThiaDczX29oS00zSXZsVkJMaXkxbHFwaGUtWjZhcHlGYkhoUHRSYV9kdHo2MTRYb0txbjQ1OE9keFRXdlM3dUFXX2U0QnJ0SExkUjJTY0M3bzl1ZXJIQmhITkhlREhwLWlLaFlSU2l6U2VTWkFZQWFLbWF1LWQyNlR4b1NJN01OR0pwd245bVVRZz09 |
The BBC... It never changes. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyNjh2RGFRR2xmdjZKaUxfQk1DV2c2VW40WkVONktMd25RdlNtX1hXRFRlaGV4OFJBSW9sZXhoTi0xcWdJUWhCZk16S2d4Y1lSVTN5MXFFak1XVG5VckE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TDZlZEltc0lacTZJYTFKbklXVlZTalFyTTE0dXp6clV4OGZsY3l5bENScDJ5RW4tX3RxQWFPVjFQVV96V3Awb0lkejEwV09CcGk3eDcxRjRQckIwT2czeXN3MlViMUl6UlpCRHBDU0JYME9zNUdZbC1iMlNXWS11Qy1xVllET2hKQlNYNFdvUGFjVWk2bjJmUXJGQ0xONTZmR1VRX00wUjJpb00yWDdrNnB4cVh3ZHIydTJqV2ZxMnBwUjBGeGJ3NWlHSUNhS2x3bERLeEk5NDFJQ2V6QT09 |
I just watched the two trailers. Honestly the actual trailer just doesn't look very entertaining - reminds me of like... trying to mix Cabaret with that surprisingly boring (given the plot) movie Public Enemies or We Own The Night...
I loved how the parody cited the movies Roland Emmerich is known for. All epic disaster/monster/alien movies - which, in their own right, usually deliver for me - but it still perfectly showcases how random it is he's directing this. Personally I'd go for like Chris Colombus
(who directed Rent) or Penny Marshall (A League of Their Own) or Ron Howard (Apollo 13)... or basically *any* director who's directed a compelling film that's based off historical events. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyakJ3RXpCMzRBVWc0RFplTXl3ZEhXdndSam5mV2pJWFROX2JjTFZVMkdXUFk2Ujg5QlJmeDgwRnVpb3BNVzZpaHNoRXlGc0RwZzJTdFQwLVdLNWtVVkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5ZkpJRm5ZWk8zSm5yTzMyRmFod2xpR2VzeV9YR2xrLVJlNUpONWdLSENCTE9PYnJ4QTRUUVpzQ3BJMjZ3QnNWSWFpcXNxc1B5Rm50Ymc5R2FmNFF2LUdXMjVTZi1nMm1Tcm9GdHZ1bjZ5Y1BDQXZEY0QzaTJtR3ZvWUluNVJ0R1BvcWgzcXlvcEluVVF5OE83UDY1ZEtEalJ6anhsUG5VemlrZWJCeFRKN3hIa0c4d09hMHpKalZPT3NrZ25lVUU5R2RNUDZLTU92TkpPT3E1RXNPQVVWQT09 |
http://www.systemcomic.com//comics/2011-06-03-everyman.png
The lead reminded me of this comic.
Somehow Hollywood managed to de-scary even Stonewall, and save us all from the big, bad LGBTs.
I wouldn't want Ron Howard, because he's way too soft for this movie. I love Ron Howard, but he directs delicate movies that have a real mainstream Americana to them. Penny Marshall maybe, but still not enough grit.
This movie needs to be 1970s NYC dirty- Dog Day Afternoon meets the better parts of Milk meets Repo Man. It needs a soundtrack you can used as a dirty ashtray, and it needs a director who understands that timeframe (paramount), the real dangers involved, AND can tie it into the civil rights movement without being schmaltzy or maudlin. Maybe don't even bother tying it in.
But not Roland Fucking Day After Tomorrow Emmerich. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVUx6ckFmWU9oOWlzV3liRnE0ZmhqODNCaFhFN3RzWjdSSF9FUTdFTkRNX3B1RjcwMENUczQ4UXhLTUxyVFRhdGUtQ2Z0ZldhekxMVG5VMkJEVjd0Tmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5LWk5YTBtT3pjbTJTZE5aTUs5RGc2SHY5Q2RodHFZbWhkRVJ3NE5QbDlUZGpsSS1FQVB2OG9fWEhqRlZZcVF5V2tkM2dvT1ZuSmtiemVJR09ma2VTdldSNzJpX0dlaDdnWDFiV1BLaEFEbmZiNkNWal9sTHFmTzNlQWZGcThfVWhranJEOUpsV2czSlAtS2hxM0oyZnFtYUJ2NzhLUXdKMTRrdzhqc3RCRW1xRy1sbEhwZGxlX3RQcUUwUE9UdHJhUnFEYUk5N3Q4anRXVWdTYUJpWC1idz09 |
I wouldn't really want it to be gritty. I'd rather the film have heart vs stylistic grit. I think you're right re: the comic but *not* right about de-scarying Stonewall - rather I think they're making gay people look scary in this and the main character is this sweet innocent guy that "everyman" can identify with and thus will carry the "heart" of the film on his back.
That's pretty fucked up. They should be striving to depict the gay activists that lived in NYC as incredibly deep & strong, well-spoken & intrepid human beings with so much heart it wins audiences over.
Also - I'm going to be pissed if the movie depicts ppl as super gritty for having casual gay sex w/o condoms and doing drugs. They were coming off the *sixties* re: drugs... and casual unsafe sex was not *nearly* as unsafe in the 70s (nor was the wider general public even that aware of "VD") as it is these days. Going "ohhhh look at all these people having unsafe sex & doing druuuugs!! There's no context it's just so *gritty* and *dark*!" would bother me.
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>I think you're right re: the comic but not right about de-scarying Stonewall - rather I think they're making gay people look scary in this and the main character is this sweet innocent guy that "everyman" can identify with and thus will carry the "heart" of the film on his back.
No, I want NYC to be big and bad and 1970s Serpico/ Pelham 123 scary. Where the city is scared of Stonewall, and that fear is being translated into the lgbt community being the boogeymen for the city when the community members are the real victims and protestors. That they rise up and instigate a cultural change by somewhat embracing violence and an uprising against the city.
They were coming off the 60s, but this isn't about casual sex, this has almost nothing to with sex. This is about a community being pushed and pushed and pushed from bar raids by the police, undercover stings to "weed out" gays, a completely blasé attitude by the mainstream community about violence against them (whistles in the gay community were there for a reason) and someone snapped and started fighting back.
It's about them also being able to be themselves beyond being considered the stereotype or embracing it. This isn't about the 1960s counterculture reaction, this is about the decades of repression and imprisonment and violence and destruction targeted against them leading up to the 60s.
The main character is the classic Hollywood lead where he's fresh off the bus from middle America, kinda cute, very innocent, and suddenly thrown into the chaotic, scary, awesome world of gay NYC 1960s. It might as well be a slightly gay Jimmy Stewart type. That's not what any of this story is about, but that's how they're wanting to frame the story- this is "his" story about coming into his own and being swept along the tides of time and history. Blargh. I'm not saying we have to pit gay lead characters against the rest of the LGBT community, but this is a well documented situation. We know who the people are, they can tailor this movie around any one of them. Maybe it's not the person someone else wanted highlighted, but at least it'd be honest on that end. Because it's coming off a little Rent-ish in style and tone, and Rent is... eye rolly.
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>I want NYC to be big and bad and 1970s Serpico/ Pelham 123 scary
Serpico wasn't really scary... but it was gritty bc NYC in the 70s *was* gritty... but in a totally different way I thought you were using the word. People currently keep using the term "gritty" for like the Batman reboot movies and Sin City movies but those flicks are/were so unreal & overstyled imo... and so does this movie. It doesn't look like the grit you want - it looks like current hollywood's perception of "grit."
>They were coming off the 60s, but this isn't about casual sex, this has almost nothing to with sex.
I know. I'm not disagreeing - I'm saying I agree with you and it's a bad thing the trailer makes it look like it will feature sex and drugs prominently (with like slo-mo shots trying to catch the grungy dirty debaucherous 'glamour' of gay people in the 70s).
Honestly this trailer just looks like it's 100% revisioning of history - "Stonewall: Drugs, Sex and Violence! - with a little bit of politics and the gay male version of the lead female character from Showgirls thrown in!" | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyYXVvN2RIbC1lNWJfOXhHbUMzMlZja1EydEZteU9PQjBmVXRyQlJ6cVlZWDdQTUdWd0xaLUNvU1Z0Qm9aaTNLTHNnbGM2aTV2MkxMYkw4OVVudm9FVXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UElUNDJxeEFxdURWZHV0TDdJeHd4ZXBueGdMdE14Vy1KT29jMzdxRjB3UU1ZSnNQU2NPVGJKZVUyTkN5UGpwNldPUkY1emFacHhyc3NfNWlMUE9XUjB3N0JIelVlMUxMN3l0M2dWaW82NE5seFVTUFQ2bF81ZkJoOFh4MHBKbEEwOFZ0S2U2NEpMcU15dkNZZ1NxTnRDbGlXQ1V1NEQ0WGhwdzJzckhqc1dKaFdxd3JlRXIwaUlsWm1GOFh4WVFWekZFNDl2b18zMTJEZ0R5Z2VMOGVydz09 |
Bernie IS stepping up for the reform. But he also wants to reform our education system, our healthcare system, our environmental policy, our immigration system, our economy, our infrastructure, our criminal justice system, try to heal race relations, AND expand Social Security. I don't think being in favor of more than one thing is dishonorable. I'm sure he knows that taking money out of politics is the biggest part of making the rest of his agenda a reality. But equally so, turning out voters and holding leaders accountable with our vote is important. Money is only able to take hold of Washington because of the apathy of the average voter. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycHJvNFYtY0JYNVJxWDlBX2xQMW1RSk93OEhha281RG9QWkhOM3QzZWxtYkw2c3NZeHFreDMwNHpvcnJjOWFvcE1KRUxqR0w2Zk5GRWZrYk9lV0hkSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5em81d1F2azY5ekhVY0YyVlFuOFdaa1Bnb201UnlaUmFuY3MzYjRiU2p4cDFsRUc0clFVNTQ4cUlsNWNCa2NKZm0zcXBITWVqQU5nRGpPalRzcTBXd1VHVEQ0clkxaHE5TEkzNTAydzRGM0RBdERGRWpkNGs3b3p5N3ljV0VTOEtXd05zN3UweVpQRU44WFR3aDI1S1diNDRVOFhQUzBzSFhvLVN0c1Qtd3VXY2xEUVJQeDZvaVZyWFBjSW9VZG9tdGVPWU1BMzdXVVZPeUJoWDNkRk1mUT09 |
>People said the same thing about Obama.
I hate to break it to you, but I work with some of the same grassroots people that got Obama elected. I'm not saying even remotely the "same things" about Lessig. Lessig is no Obama on any real level or Lessig would have strategized and announced his campaign a long time ago instead of saying he *might* run as late as labor day.
I heavily supported Lessig's Rootstrikers and MayDay from the beginning. I sent lots of money to Lessig's efforts in the past only to watch him practice harebrained tactics that lacked proper strategy. He stubbornly wouldn't listen to good advice and flopped badly.
I've seen Lessig's videos and read his articles on this new harebrained idea. What I've seen is a man with otherwise great ideas who has now gone off the deep end after his miserable failure with MayDay. He's also flipped-flopped on the Citizen United Ruling. Lessig is brilliant in many ways, yet incredibly confused and stunted when it comes to proper strategy.
Lessig and his (now **dwindling**) supporters need to understand our 2015 grassroots dynamic. Sanders will **not** be attempting to accomplish anything alone. Lessig doesn't seem to know about this fact:
**Why Bernie Sanders' grassroots supporters are worth more than Clinton & GOP astroturf money can buy.**
http://bbs.boingboing.net/t/why-or-why-not-to-vote-for-bernie-sanders/59394/110?u=cowicide
Seriously, read that, and then come back and tell me with a straight face that Bernie Sanders is trying to accomplish anything without a serious strategy for fixing Congress first.
The ROOT of the problem is obstructionist Republicans and bluedog, establishment Democrats that block any campaign finance reform in the first place. The same, **massive** grassroots organizations that are continuing to surround and support Sanders' campaign right now to great success are the same ever-growing grassroots groups that are going after the very same people that will stop Lessig and his weak campaign **cold**.
If Lessig wasn't performing a last minute, knee-jerk campaign that doesn't even start until after Labor Day, I might have at least some slight appreciation for his strategy. However, he's simply running as an inane protest candidate due to the fact he doesn't understand our 2015 grassroots dynamic. He should be supporting Sanders very directly, not indirectly.
My God, Lessig doesn't even grasp basic politics. He says he would perhaps make Warren his VP and then step down and graciously give her the presidency. If he practiced a modicum of research, he'd know that Warren isn't running in 2016 due to the fact she still needs to acquire foreign policy experience. That reality won't magically change because Lessig runs in 2016.
Again, this just goes to show that Lessig is no Obama. Lessig is a man who from his ivory tower is impatient because his other poor strategies failed. He's not looking at the big picture and is instead shooting his own ideas in the foot in the process.
His campaign is a pipe dream at best and a spoiler against Sanders at worst. Sanders is not going to be Lessig's VP, nor is HRC, nor is Warren.
Lessig is all alone in the deep end and he's drowning. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-16 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoya1ktTlJtNFN5ZzFWTFZzOTNidWYzc1BxQmZ3dENReFdlQ3cwVFVRdFJISDZCQXN5ckt1SjJkbXRqdGtsam9STTVIbUdtb05lOFUzc3F5akhsRnl1MXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5bVRfeThoWFZ3UXJMa1hPSjUtcVZxN2FwVE5NcTFLdlpXOU44aUZvaDc4MlVLTE9TZldsRzQ4SFRlcXE2S3hZcmdpU0JuRG1TVm1IWC0tYXNXVWtuMG5XWlhRUnVQNzd0RWd3T0JSeDZDWG1XaUFNcTlXcmlLd1R3MkZQOFIyUC1xdXFnTkVaNDJLOXRsS2Fma3hBaXM3RlUzUC1rRjhENF83OHlwYWozV3pPUlZ1eGNmOXVqT0FONGZzdzh6aVlxWVBxN2dWM2JXWjVJVlEteVN6RGtjdz09 |
Lessig has gone off the deep end. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-16 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyXzZMcFRPQjdVQzJCN3h5bnFZNnBSNkpmMVkxcXhobXhOSVd1T05nQVprY3libnpoVHY4U3VDYVVibzNSdGUzWXZGQl9yMWhqMTNINElLbFhvc1l3MVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Z3NnRXJ5eUlmQ1RXN0tXNVRRR1hDbjZMZkVrTThub05CaW5PRUQ4VVhZZW9CQVJybmYxZGJLNjdZVVp5RzVuMHlaTU1uS1BWVzdQSjdXTGlvMVFvSXFyQWJ1NE02MWdLcE56YnNycmU3c2lvWnBlLTdHeWVwWHkwYmQ3Q0ZRSmxSLU45eGZYSnl5bkZVd0FlaE1od2FXRE9qdkowZnFCdDVxVnI1Q2dtQmZPWGF3M2hmWldJTGtsM25CcTdzVzE4ZlNnNWRaWnMtdVlzWm04eWNYUUNVdz09 |
> f this is the best idea that Lessig has left, it might be time to give up. Or maybe it's time to try all ideas, no matter how crazy?
What it's time to do is join the millions of us in our true, grassroots support for Bernie Sanders. Then (very **critically**) after Sanders is elected, we **will** continue to work symbiotically with the Sanders administration to unseat obstructionist Republicans and bluedog, establishment Democrats in the following midterms who attempt to stop campaign finance reform.
How can Sanders pull this off? He can't. He will be the first to admit that he needs to work symbiotically with our massive grassroots movements that are now swelling into millions across this nation.
Please join us. There's hundreds of grassroots organization that support Sanders, find one that best supports issues you care about most and join up.
Lessig can't pull it off. Sanders, who has a tremendous record of working with grassroots organizations can do it and is doing it as we speak.
The corporate media doesn't get it. They seem befuddled and act like the crowd-fairy is delivering all these historic, massive crowds to Bernie's events. The truth of the matter, it's us. It's a massive grassroots effort both offline and online that networking and reaching out to millions despite a lack of funds via corrupt Super PACs, Wall Street bankster money and billionaire sugar daddies.
We don't need those fuckers. We have each other. Grassroots beat astroturf in 2015. The dynamic has radically reversed in this critical regards.
Bernie Sanders **can** win because American grassroots organizations are more powerful than ever in the history of our nation.
More on this dynamic here:
Why Bernie Sanders' grassroots supporters are worth more than Clinton & GOP astroturf money can buy.
http://bbs.boingboing.net/t/why-or-why-not-to-vote-for-bernie-sanders/59394/110?u=cowicide
Please don't give up hope. It's going to be a hell of a struggle against Hillary, but we're gaining on her (and even beating her already in some critical ways) this early in the race on an unprecedented level.
The corporate media and other establishment pundits were very wrong about us getting this far, so what else are they wrong about now? | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-16 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyTmh3NkE4eTI2ZGJFVGZBam15Q2ExVmQ0UEtfNURBX3hKY3hwd2VGVXRmU01QOE8wRHZURnBBdW9VVXotZ2x5R1B0dDNiQkV5cTVvSThSMkpMODQ0NlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5dHNSaUhoZW9QcEVVZ0o0bG42TWRiM0gwOUpSSUg1WHQtbDhILXlJUGFCRDVZaXVsWW9haFZpWW4zS3M1V3dLd1lPaWhUUEJXUnV5S2paN295clNrTW13WEJGNlBPdlp0eWdnZ2VCeXNubUlwNWtyNlNBd2syZ1RYRmQ5RGJSc2JXVjNZR2dDYzRkMjI2OWYtT3dmQU4tTi1LTmFLeFZrR0pjcFpsaHQ4Ny1naVZ0UlhyaDRNeUtHdF9CTXFRQ09pc21ZOHpLT1NTXzdyaU5pQTlDZVFsQT09 |
Lessig has gone off the deep end. I hope he comes to his senses before making a complete ass out of himself here.
If he ends up running and acting as a spoiler for Hillary Clinton, I will despise the man. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-16 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyM2UwbVlzOTBOd3M1aWJmMmU3SkZNTC1yT25YYnkxYjhkSmlHRDJ0X1k2b2hTa2JKcUxJSnA5U0pYTGhTa2ZXdnVtYThXcjBRenNQcXgwQ1ZVeTU3M3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WmU1S05nUDVpa1BhQ1NfelNQaTZWQ2NXdGVxQTFRUURsakxOZXRTX3ZvX0JyZm4yb2liT0staEF5S2hTOXJnWjdkM1o5eEpVX25PRm13VVN5cVprV2VfWVk5Z1Z6b0h5T2ZQVWJub3pCaVNpc0J3aGNTVEZkb3ZmdjRfRE9EWmlMZlZTOHpzS0pUNmd5LUdMRVI2ZmlVdlExXzhTR293cjhJbTdmc1FUMUVYRTRHSTFWQjZYc0Q3bWxJOGN1SE43dWMxUUxIWWM0OWhneHBZSXBaU0o0UT09 |
Agree, if Lessig acts as a spoiler for HRC against Sanders, I will pretty much despise him as a human being. Lessig needs to come down from his ivory tower, the air is too thin up there and it's making him very light-headed. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-16 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMWpPZmhsUzBvS0dtdTRiX2MzcW05Mmp5UzYwaUIzcWVNNWpvd2NZQ1gzc3FaZ0had0RtWDlOZkxvWThHR3M1RkxZUjFZZE5LaXlqc0YtMmVBT3p6ekE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5UnZuSzdQcDVCX19OSEtpVXV3d3VqcUR0NVFOSENYRlF1RlV4NjZiMVNwQ2w2OWRUbjBNZjFjVE1taFc5MlgtcVRlTU5KU3BQUS1fM3VjZV9jOFc1UFRRSWs4bXZVeTBwV2wxdi1RYUhlUUNuNEJIQ0FRYktmTVh4aUh0VVRLZWR0QUxJWkttM2Z2NmdXMVA0eXNTaTg1NW1yVTluQy1jM216dXRZNmdIRGNkY3g3RnNzSkZuQURKZkJXTkd2NVpRNGlhMWtmT0NFZnA3RG1FRU43LUxnZz09 |
This is a great article. I definitely am a baby. What would be your recommendation for a few different examples of what a trading system is? | r/tradingeducation | comment | r/TradingEducation | 2015-08-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycExDT0hYeWUwSjJOTDdHMmgwNXZzSlJTeFotNVFJOWVjQkhJalBWNzVrVzBqTlNPUjdYbUFtbGFSbWNYbUMtc2ZZSW03eTFtTkJ6QjRaWHY1TnRWRkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5VHBtZjZ2RDV3UF84QVRzUnJFVHFxQmlObUdERmhtTXFWdnkxWWYwMDBlSkVuSDlCMlZELWhXNTQwemkyMUk2eG9HeWFwWUpSbjVLT3NvQk5YTU1BYlFnWkJKb3IzVXhCOU9NbnNqNmhRZDJqMFV5UFRzd21Ic3RjQ3R1VGNRSjUtRTRSX0t6OUdkRmFYMFNCS3RNc0lkbEdha3dBSUlyOUlVLUdsaGJHZXpvZGhZcnMzQURoSmdVZzhIejBSWTdFS0hQRXlQTmRCY1F4LTZhaG9FaXNzYnljenUwM0JZTjg1azdTcldiNzl0TT0= |
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They're saying the same things about Sanders that people said about Obama, not Lessig. "His grassroots support will allow him to push his agenda through Congress," specifically. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVkJqV0czVzVJeFYtNTIxZzF6U2NuaDExb2tRUERlRTNzVHM3dEpSSXJtTkZDRV9sa2JodVZIcUhJMkZwR0N4ZkFTQkpubWd1MGsyNTdJdW5YSktpMnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5SmRLLUlDRTVZaDhzajNwZkpMT1JWMjI1UTk3cVlDNXZiZ3RpWjZLTWZPWHc1VVZaS1JmclRNSnc4b01iYVFBenVHWXo5MnpDejNhVmMzbnppT2JpWEtVaGREbkpZbkpXb2FDZm80RFNGb0NQWElVc1lXcWlMOE14dHh0RVgtLXRkQTN4Q1l0cjVOWldfTURkajQ0bjQ3MnFPc2ZrMUtSbnhhdG5COERCd2NCRFNUMy1GWnJfTWotTWNOLVhveXNSTU42TWo4eW52ZUFNd2RnNVNJZGE5dz09 |
Trying out a new thing here (and making up for the fact that I totally forgot it was my turn to select & submit a FofW) where this isn't a franchise or a single series but rather a subject fandom: zombies.
Wikipedia:
>Zombies are undead creatures, typically depicted as mindless, reanimated human corpses with a hunger for human flesh. Zombies are most commonly found in horror and fantasy genre works. The term comes from Haitian folklore (Haitian French: zombi, Haitian Creole: zonbi) where a zombie is a dead body animated by magic. Modern depictions of zombies do not necessarily involve magic but invoke other methods such as a virus.
So yeah! Here are some questions to get the ball rollin':
* What's some of the best/worst zombie fiction you've ever consumed (literary, film, tv, games, etc)?
* What is it about zombies that you love/hate?
* Where do you stand on the grudge between slow dumb stumbly zombies and fast spastic running zombies?
* Do you think the current hard-on pop culture has for zombies is a flash in the pan or do you think you're a lifelong fan? Why?
* What's your favorite zombie cause? (as in - is it a plague? is there no explanation? is it radioactive material reanimating people? etc)
* What's in your zombie survival backpack? (if you don't have one, pretend you do)
Hopefully those're enough zom zom questions to nomnom on :D
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>* What's some of the best/worst zombie fiction you've ever consumed (literary, film, tv, games, etc)?
I'm into The Walking Dead. But the show has been some of the best and some of the worst, depending on the season and story line.
My favorites; iZombie, Zombies, Run!, Shaun of The Dead, minor undead side characters in Discworld.
Warm Bodies was one I didn't care for. I'm never big on "love is the cure!" outside of children's stories.
>* What is it about zombies that you love/hate?
I think it's the space for creativity I like. Unlike a lot of horror monsters, the rules for zombies aren't set in stone, and you get the ability to play on characters who are trying to keep zombified loved ones safe in hopes of a cure, political activist zombies, like Reg Shoe in Discworld (Undead, yes; un-people, no!), even a zombie protagonist who needs brains to stay human, in iZombie. We know they're undead, but beyond that, you can really stretch some boundaries.
>* Where do you stand on the grudge between slow dumb stumbly zombies and fast spastic running zombies?
I don't throw shade on either, but, I don't feel like people should get faster after they die. For some reason, that's where my fourth wall breaks. Totally excusable in Zombies, Run! because many of the zombs in those hordes may well have been supply runners just like your character before being turned.
>* Do you think the current hard-on pop culture has for zombies is a flash in the pan or do you think you're a lifelong fan? Why?
Some of it is going to last. The ones that do something interesting with it.
>* What's your favorite zombie cause?
Like, cause of turning? Reg Shoe. Got shot full of arrows but just didn't lie down, because what he was doing was way too important.
>* What's in your zombie survival backpack? (if you don't have one, pretend you do)
First aid kit, water, big effing knife, clean socks, matches, lock pick.
>Hopefully those're enough zom zom questions to nomnom on :D
You know what vegetarian zombies eat?
Graaaaaiiiiiiins... | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyZ0lGNTc1dDMtd2JaaDRCZlZleXBqQVYybzdqWk1Bc0FoaVVpdm5PWnZTSGhCc1ctdFgyQ1UwcjV6WkJVVHJEN2lRSEFkT1ZtQzc4azhkSUNqWjRIZlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5U29GT2FQWWQ1eGg2MEJzUm5tZW5FaFlnUEc0ZjJGVkpzZDZIb2NqMGhWeXhlLUg2VlNBUjJyaHdnMmFPRGxaOElLZVhCb0ladllneTg3Mm5PTmh0VkpTYlMyakZGM1RQSDdQS2w3VjhZcG16amFxV01zUVdSZGNwVnd5TWhWVEJKTHM1cjIyNnFrMUU1OVZCVjhNcktBWEktWDI0X0p3SDFwV1BGb1N0NUhpSXM1Y0llWGVrdlJXMk9RYTJWQmli |
What is it about zombies that you love/hate?
I'm not into zombies. They're nothing. They're the Birds or animals or machines. Because there's nothing to them, they become nothing but metaphor. People say the best of scifi is when it reflects back ourselves, but I find that that's the worst about zombies. They're too post modern, too agenda driven. Very few people focus on the death/gore/whatever to tell a morality tale. There are a few I like (28 days later, shaun), but they're just tedious for the most part. They're too flexible, because there's nothing to them- no characterization, no culture, nothing, but the world that changes around them, not them themselves. Other monsters have some sort of core tenets (I highly recommend the "how do you kill a vampire? video), but they have to be used within the construct of story telling and character development, not just as a blunt tool. I Am Legend is a perfect example, because it's such an imperfect movie. They almost made a movie about intelligent zombies and what that meant, but then realized halfway through that Will Smith was being set up as a torture doctor so the second half got butchered to keep him from looking like Dr. Mengele (I highly recommend the animated shorts that came out about it at the time).
•Where do you stand on the grudge between slow dumb stumbly zombies and fast spastic running zombies?
Fast ones. I want chompers.
Do you think the current hard-on pop culture has for zombies is a flash in the pan or do you think you're a lifelong fan? Why?
•What's your favorite zombie cause?
I'm combining these two. It's pretty much run its course, but my favorite "Zombie cause" was the CDC putting out a zombie apocalypse website on what to do during a fictional outbreak. It went viral, and was adorable. More importantly, it fed a lot of people valid information on what to do during a "real" natural disaster disguised as a goofy zombie apocalypse outbreak. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyOEtSVEpNczRidHpFWjBzQTh3R1dPUGhzdmFWMTdsV3F5LWNabzJrOHNKTHdIRV9HU3NxbWduNHFvUHk1eHctbjZYel9JTnYzVWR2cHFPZGtsRnMyLUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5RVdnNDA1eW5nYnZLNVVISlBnbFNGMVRCalo3dXRMRmc0eWZtQk1EQXJGUnRmdTJJSXVULVE0eGw0YzRjQ2ZodzZFQUF0aFc3eE5rWUgtSFRWcF9fN2tIUDdqd19kVll3bmJ4Q3dUdk1uNW5sZFhzMFNndnM5dmR3V2NXMDZjWEVoS1BQcEk0N2YwSlhXVmN3OWxtckFDQ2luaXpFTERVeDJvdlE5blh3OUloWEtELWc5SmFBSnhmaTRxOTZBYkN2 |
My favorite zombie stuff: World War Z by Max Brooks, The Newsflesh Series by Mira Grant, The Walking Dead (but I'm way super pumped for Fear the Walking Dead), 28 Weeks Later (yeah I liked the sequel more than 28 Days Later - I actually didn't even really enjoy 28 Days Later that much), Cabin in the Woods, the Resident Evil movie series but really the first movie was super fun & always made me think if I gamed I'd love the game. I also still make references to the Red Queen in the first movie (since it was the first and most blatant use of the "computers try to kill everybody to save everybody" trope for me). Romero's Dawn of the Dead. Evil Dead.
I'll add if/when I think of more :) | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyUzZMNHZKa3FJaXdpS09RV3NrZm5rSGNXRDhCUk4zeFJGdmxMYm16QU1BdHFocUV4MEJHUHdTSHFjVXdQY25qN21TalBjV2xZUTVqYjZ4TFhuTW0wdUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5T2VyMVNWZmZhR2RmQjFpZTd6MFBFR3lPSDRKU2l4dUpuTDQwa3hCN05SbWNGNm5VNjJfVUstR2dxVm8tdWZsajlLSGMzVVZOZTZqVXFjWThBOExmNGZybG5haXZLbWZ4MzRyLXBNTHN4TUUwQ255bmRhNnNVdGhYN1RhN20xdWZ2c09xQXNEb1ZsNjNxV0xVOHpyQ2J0aW1HTjkxSVQyUzhXS3htVklBSlM4bzhNR2w1QU8zakhuVk01WHVxSWxy |
>zombies. They're nothing. They're the Birds or animals or machines.
To be fair, there's been a shit ton of super awesome & interesting scifi/fantasy regarding machines/technology/artificial intelligence. Terminator and The Matrix first come to mind. I'm not even sure those were metaphors though since the message was reflective of the boon in tech of the 80s and 90s: "be scared of technology and artificial intelligence!" Those two movies also managed to tell morality tales though as well as quality character development. But that begs the question: if you can write a compelling story with a moral thread and quality character development with machines, it should stand to reason you can do the same with zombies. I'll admit not many zombie flicks manage to do this effectively though.
Also imo "I Am Legend" failed terribly as a zombie flick just as "I, Robot" did as an evil machine flick lol
>Because there's nothing to them, they become nothing but metaphor.
Originally Romero was going straight for a metaphor about consumerism in his zombie flicks - he gave no cause on how the zombies were created or how they existed. Just mindless hungry people eating other people who'd lose their humanity and join them (having fun by mashing consumerism brainwashing with brain*eating* lol).
In the 80s zombie causes were explored more. Evil Dead the kids called them up from hell using a Latin incantation from an evil book made out of skin. The 80s comedy Return of the Living Dead and its sequels went with the idea that zombies were created from toxic waste.
I think the reinvention/repopularization of zombies has come about though ever since zombies were switched to line up with epidemics and apocalypses. In other words, zombies are now getting used to tell epic survival stories laced with disaster and science, all through a horror genre lens.
>People say the best of scifi is when it reflects back ourselves, but I find that that's the worst about zombies.
Having seen tons of zombie flicks, I do agree. But the good ones deliver more than any other epic disaster/survival/epidemic/horror movie or tv show I've seen recently (although in truth currently my two favorite horror movies of all time - one is about a demon possession and the other's about a Jamestown cult - but neither of them were epic though).
I'd generally say zombies represent the fear of a disease sweeping the world that's so prevalent these days given Ebola and anti-vaxxer movements. Seems no less metaphorical (or legitimate) than evil machine movies coming out during the crazy fast computer tech advancements of the 80s/90s... or the rash of space armageddon movies that came out before 2000 bc people feared an apocalypse at the turn of the millenium.
I'm thinking though that health and disease will never really go away. So currently zombies as representative of virus strains -- that fear is never really going to be allayed. I'm def a zombie fan for life. But I do think the general popularity of zombies is going to wan when our society finds something new and more urgent/topical to fear. Or who knows. Maybe someone will reinvent zombies again and have their cause be the result of like... space aliens.
OMG! I actually *just* watched the movie "The Last Days on Mars" where they're a crew on Mars, find cells on Mars, get infected by them, die and then reanimate to attack and kill the rest of the crew. Maybe space zombies'll be next if we end up funding NASA enough in real life lol | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoycnlnUUJxM05WQTFBdTJoSk5LVFNJM1l6cW8xZ1FxMEEzNTc5T1FrbndCejRIVFV4ekdzeEs2VW03ZDQ5R3VBSlhjNllSa1NVRzRiLXJKY044Z0ZKY3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5NzZ5MlAxSGxiQUFkVWpSV0ZZU0w3WHd4bFZQQVZ4X0FWWTE1YjJCNEZ2b3ZYcDBOblgzMXcxWXB1N0Y2Ym5jckJULWNka1diYXg2VEsteXhzMFNyd3Z4YjlPc0wwRFZ4WlZOeDJTQm5GaFJjamZyaVQ2Z1BJeXlSZVQ2NFozU1ZRUUZDdUNpWElHdkNoYU51cndfTGV6SDNlT1RwSmJRSU96RTFoNjRFaUtQM1VMSjU0Qm9rOXZTc01XV1JFQWhr |
>whoosh
When the topic is Lessig, you should probably be clear you're referring to someone else next time.
>They're saying the same things about Sanders that people said about Obama, not Lessig. "His grassroots support will allow him to push his agenda through Congress," specifically.
Sanders and Obama have incredibly different grassroots dynamics on multiple levels. Vitally, Obama utilized grassroots only to throw them under the bus after elected. Sanders and our grassroots organizations are already planning on working symbiotically after he's elected. If you were working with us, you'd know this already. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyZXlRQlBBLUlzU2RKWW8wX2hTc3pqWTh2Mm1mOTRKQlotUjhLS3B1QWJvQkszV2FzbUxxZ0FDYVFlTVdiMlgtUjNaR2JaSjgtcGhhaDVvQ0dFc3JDcFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5R0p6NmQyVHJ1ZnFhcVBwMWtPQTB2M2JrendrLWcwcnlvd3AxWWlsU2lxVnZ0WTRkVzdjSGZFelJMVXYxdlFOZEVQUkNoYkdya2xmTFNRbl9LUV84TnB6aTRrU0dsY0NKRkVsc0s0d2xLT1QzUmsxYk1WU1NJNkljRnp2RUVacTdGOFZPbW1LN2FSM3N1a1hoMS1BTjE1eThUS0hPeVhFUzVXUTlSckU5YWZ6eVYzdlRhVklXbk8yY2ltOGJxekxNcTE1d2ZNUFJKOE1peUxtbEJHaHZjQT09 |
Calling all Fangirls, time to update us on the news & info goin' on in your fandoms this week! Topics welcomed:
* anything new regarding the source material of your fandom(s) (recent interviews, announcements, release dates, etc)? Let us know about them!
* anything new regarding the fandom(s) (fan communities online, fandom meta, fanfiction, fanart, any transformative work that's gone viral recently)? Give us some context & then link us all the things!
* any recent feels you have about anything regarding the source material of your fandom *and/or* your fandom(s)? Share! We're great listeners here.
*Really* excited & looking forward to how this turns out! Let the spread of rational, dedicated & well-informed flailing begin!!!
| r/fangirls | post | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR3FlSlM3N3hXc0lFLUt2RDVZMHV0Tk03Tjg3MmJMNmdNQjJmVlBLanE1WTR3NEpMT19yR01qM2JyRkkxLW85WGlraGFUeERYb29vU3BLdEl1N0Iyb2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5YXZHNUJDQW55R1dXWk1hbk11RWkwQnNHR1p0U3UycDJQdFN0LUdZUWp4Q3VibDBxcnZrWWRlNmh1Q1JuUlMwWHFsb2lXOFZScS14UHlQeG1saXNIZ2FFNVd2cTBNbTJ2cUZEOUdCSjVkeHBYTXl2T2NnVl9pTm1UVmlWcndjZUE1SjNnTTlJVG1VSmdMUVY2bUxYdDBGTUpVRERoczBSNTdka3I5STgxTVVJPQ== |
Obama was also planning on working with the grassroots after elected. Look it up. The reality of governing got in the way. With you, I hope it can be different this time, than Sanders really is change we can believe in. Yes we can, etc. | r/maydaypac | comment | r/MaydayPAC | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyOE1KclBoSDVCRjBQS3BFZXJZYm9nM3NMY0Z2eEtjY3VEak4xd2haY0dwY0N0UkoweUVhZnprRjRKVjRuM1p1M3B6cEpLcVBMWjVYYk15Y1JTU1dNanc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TTJUQjN4c2Q0SlUwbThDWjFYSm5SMldhVVk1RFozTExCOFozVlZkVFl0WC1KZFV0Ty1HaV9MSUNzT2RjV0Y4dFNEbVVxVmNaWW93OTZwYy1ENmItYVpRT3d4aHBxcFUyWFZTQXBXUHZud0RjUjY2bW5ZVURWRVN5LVpTMlVsWW9WWW5IVk5lS01KbFNpQk9HbERObkVTLWVWRV9ZZTU1RHYtZXZpODFyWmtYdVd3VjVfY1hoNklOVVNxeTdwak0wXzN2czJzUG94Uk5Cc1Q3Uy1HZnExUT09 |
So much cultural baggage with her. What are your dislikes, likes, things that drive you up the wall within the community of fan fiction, the issues revolving around her, male versions, shifts in attitude, redemption, definitions, anti-definitions, limitations, attitudes against female ocs in general, that sort of thing. | r/fangirls | post | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoydC1MMGRtbkI1QVhhVHZ5ZzVWTE9MN3ktV2E1UC1yT1pDd2k1aklneXFRLWRwNmRZWjRDMXh1WlNvXzNWTGphb01iTEdBLUdrdTBPLTBmMU4xNDJIcGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5MVB0MlZOWFMzSUJqbEw1akc5SmFKcDQ0SmNQQ2RvLU80UlZMWjB0M0xCLWhmbWVSVjhDby1XR0xuVUtmYU0zMllqWEg3VUZkZDBPSklJYmRpdlUtSkZlOXRfNzB4eDZfc3NsLWhUR1R5MDl5RzBVT0JsYlNhRDJ0VkloNHRhbmRERTh2OEYwakJ1aWFvbERjaEtjMTBvTEJ0NVloblFtMFMxZFBUZzU5Nlk4PQ== |
Likes: Mary Sue centric and self-insert stories seem to be a very common jumping-off place for new writers. I know they were for me, at least. I'm all for encouraging people to write, so I honestly don't mind seeing them; everyone has to start somewhere. Hell, I still write Mary Sues occasionally; sometimes it's nice to write something just for you, something where everything is *about* you, where things go *right* for once, where you get your happy-ever-after. It's cathartic, especially when real life is being a relentless, miserable bastard.
Dislikes: They're a crutch, and they can be really hard to get away from. I still struggle with that, too. It's a weakness, and I know it. I understand the hate directed towards them, as they can be tiring and frustrating, but I don't really understand the animosity often directed towards the authors that write them. Like I said, everyone has to start somewhere. I doubt anyone can look back on the very first draft of their very first story and say, "Yes. This is a masterpiece." Mine was a DBZ fanfic, it was written in all-caps because I hadn't learned how to use the shift key yet, and it was *bad*. So, so bad.
Anyway, that's just my two cents. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR0oyS2Myektfcjc0Sl9rT0hEQzhjVmpMNnVQNFRKWmxvUHRtVGpDM0hWUVk2OWI3ZjRLMTBFWTBkX213Z3RWLW1hMnZ1TzJQSm9vMWdoMUtiOGhZdmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Y0FVMXkzLU5PX3VQeXNwSFZUa2ptLWtJdFdZS05wS0JISS14U3BtSGZ1WlY5Ukdrbl83ME9zS1hjZ3hmWkdweWlsc01iRTI1NThxR1dLTVlPdFhUN2FzbTV0UTkwTXlIcEtaZ2xVc2FXXzE3TzN2TDNKNEVfdjVfLUZHX2ZwSGg0NHd0ODd4ZWVhbWtfME1fUmE4dlBwRlN5WXQtRDBqRmVEMlFRbnNmcXRCQThlaWEyQ3NpZExBdy1OeURURktu |
For as much massive push for representation in shows, there's an almost insulting lack of women characters, canon or OC, in fan fiction. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyQWpoZndsUE5nME5ndDZ1YlA4VTY0QkJ5Y1hBV3I3Yms3OVBnTUdtVDAtZUduRGpWQmh4dGFiMGMwZjNBQjlHdWtmVGJ3T2lqRGktZ3FWT1RpN0FQU0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5eExCYy1uWXhCdWxnWTVlWno2QzN1dEdlZ3prcXA2RTBIOUdhSFpzbjRZUXVyMERVLXgxQTRQZUMyOXpzVW9QMWpPSkZvNzlDZzNIajQ1cXRXMXFmQ0x5bFdPblgyZE1WdGhYRXIycVhyQVNmZHdFZEM0dFo4eExYOXFsUjJzRUU5WG5vVGFnQTZMdnpCRnZFYTFXYkhWTGtmcm0wbU82Z3lZS2N3WjhTNTJ2UFVVZjRVZ0tHbWJETE1LYVBpaFRP |
That's an interesting point. Any particular fandoms you're thinking of, or is that just in general? | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVHVBTDRFazZ4OGlVYWxUQS1ISDJON0V3S0ZWVTVIemRNNF9zU1czTHBlcF9Ia3FocFBuX1NQTWtjR3lFZnlacTNHdEdEN1I2NmczYnl4MS1uaERmdUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5RVdUVmJJb1Nicnl5cEJ3SVNoRXVrTFBmUFgzVjdxbjRHMmVMWU5oVUNnUjlPOFQ1VXkwUzkxSmJOclc4dTZSSUNCMXltVlgtVUNjZHlLYjVGY0REWEVIRW5EYUk1VS1PMXJaLXBPcXM0WjhmcDR6MjZJS3R3bzMtZ0hzaXpuTzYyMmFoanNMNFJkS290X1c3eGZHdlJ1eERwV3NFYXNHRVdYWWlhRng4U0ptOU5QNUpOWXJPeTFGLWl3bGdhUnhh |
Supernatural for obvious and not so obvious reasons, but I've been reading for 25 years now and it's pretty universal looking back. I do think there's a massive distrust of women oc characters, a lot because of Mary Sue or author insert, but also because there are fewer well rounded canon women characters in general. Slash and shows that push slash as subtext often ignore women characters that much more as men are given even the somewhat quasi female romantic lead role. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVTBBeHF0ay1lZVd0Nm03MFNlMjlQVlJTM2haWlJiRF9oaFBDc2l6aTJ4cU00alVOSDBRUDY3VEhKb3RvMGxPNnV6UWQzOS1SbDdqaXliYUZ4bkdSTVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5ODBrT1Rwa25yYmdYbXIwZGV1VmZvQVMwOS1jYTkwTmdSclZJd2c2aFZZMnRuOVpIRXptRGpROXVERFdGMFR2dERZa0Z4cHNvd1RDM0FVNEZ6V0F1UlVsQWsyNHRBTjFLUzFuSVdZQm5YbkpNWTVkMl8xc05xWkswaGM2bmVXT0FiQ204SzBsXzMwbGY5RTlwaDYzTFhmbUhlSTM2NmJzbTVIUHUwOWNaYXF6cGxmTmFJVFZJcUNHMnF5MWR0Y0ln |
I absolutely agree about the lack of trust when it comes to female OCs. When I start reading a story, even though I hope for the best, I tend to brace myself for - and, depending on the fandom, even expect - the worst. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyakhyVDR3LWx5bVgtcjBKVHdtZXJsUDdiVi1WVUplX09abmY0UXdJRVNuZFROTm9EMTNGNzlfUDhpSVdWOW1JdXhSVGJmbW8xRXh6Y3JHSGlMOXMxZkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5RjYyMEhraVZzaWtOWmctN2dqdmlkckxlNE1KcXI5cnlLY00yTzNEaWRIR3o2aHJ1MEZuSUk4aFBWSzA5RExZYXhZbzZNUWFyMm5SbDFNVDluUnZOSjljWDYwbEQteHpMNkZVRTZYQlhRQnBnV0hPeXdtRkNqTnhNLVZpbzRLR1Q5V2I1VW9kcHhmeUpSNGxGS283YXBlbEVnN1dnZ3FDQWY4elQ4UUtjTk1UeUdNcXpIR3VJTEhjQ3ozUV9FcnhM |
I have a female OC in a fic, two fics actually, who wasn't planned but just kind of wormed her way in. It was one of those cases where the canon leads (Sam and Dean of Supernatural, in this case) needed to consult w an outside person (in this case a nurse, for medical care) and then the outside person accidentally gets involved. She was just supposed to be a peripheral figure in 1 chapter. But then there seemed no logical way to *prevent* that character from getting curious and getting more involved. I kept trying to ditch her and she kept worming her way deeper in: for example, I'd plan for her to (say) deliver a vehicle to a wounded Dean and then make a quiet exit offstage, but then she'd be all, "I'm a NURSE, he's WOUNDED, I'm not going to let him just drive off on his own!" And next thing I know, she and Dean are in this argument about whether he's fit to drive, and then she's shoving into the driver's seat, taking the wheel and driving him where he needs to go; then of course they talk on the drive, she gets more involved, now they're friends, then she's coming along on this whole road trip. I hadn't planned at all for a female OC to be on this major road trip (it was really kind of annoying tbh).
The funny thing? Readers loved her! I can't even count how many comments I got of "I usually hate female OCs, but I love your Sarah!" She even ended up in a romantic relationship with one of the canon leads later (not Dean actually, but Sam), usually a bad plot move, but again readers loved that too.
I think the saving grace was that her plotline was driven by believable character motivation and a realistic skill set. She was making decisions originally based on her professional code of ethics (i.e., being a nurse who won't abandon someone wounded). She was not super skilled at everything in the world, she wasn't a supermodel or a genius or a badass fighter; she was (I hope) a believable person and so she fit into the team in a believable way. (Also, I hadn't modeled her on me, so it was probably clear that there was no wish-fulfillment component to her plot.) Anyway it made me think a lot about the resistance to female OCs, and what types of female OCs *are* received well and why. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyU2c0SWtuS1hxYjJSaEJ6Q0FWM0JrbF9NdHZCUEtQTzNZb1ZMVzdLX3BlYXhqZFM4dXJaWEtTZVExY254YVdJOXRETzBYYnMyQlM5dWUtcnJzbzY2d3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5ZXBMaDAybm5wZFJtbkR0MlVuQ1N4ZHpIY1ExWlJPZUVLbjJwQ1lPYzdoaGdiSHBIMjJoV3hpZmNJMF9EbzY2b2RnR2dRTGsxME5tSmtDYnQyOUE3cklFVnN1dDh5dkxkWVFUR0ZQQVJFek9uMUpOOTZ0azYtLVZrWHpsdEJETVByTTFTdm91MWNrX085ZDhGbjNwR0tLYms3VThxaHJvQzBwZ0VMUkxhUS1EMVNQakVtc3RLTU01dkNHYjBUWld6 |
I, for one, definitely blame Supernatural canon for my preoccupation with men & intimacy (whether platonic or romantic) between men. My original works almost always feature - if not a woman as the main character - then definitely a woman as a half of the two main leads who're partners... and honestly, if it's original, then I'm more likely to write two women leads as partners than two men.
I'd almost say Supernatural fanfiction has helped me feel comfortable writing men (and especially writing scenes between men where a woman isn't present) than I ever was before. Before I almost always wrote women because a) women are awesome (as are men), and b) I'm a woman so I was writing what I knew.
Supernatural was/is sort of fun & awesome though because it let me explore writing men and I got instant feedback on whether it was an entertaining depiction. Granted, a lot of it is women writing men and *also* women giving feedback on whether the men were depicted entertainingly. There's not a lot of men that read and comment on fanfiction giving pointers on whether or not the depiction of the man or men is *accurate,* but these days I'm not even sure if that's of a whole lot of value. Was it accurate? Maybe not. Did it entertain? Have I boosted the # of followers/subscribers to my written work that depicts men this way? Yes? Then I'm gonna keep doing it because I enjoy writing men that way too.
It's kind of liberating.
I actually wonder if there's an argument in there somewhere about how depicting men as more emotional or physically affectionate could be seen as a move towards shattering "stoic distant hero-man" stereotypes (which I'd be all in for bc God knows I love emotional & affectionate men).
It's almost like, as a female writer, I was feeling the uncertainty of depicting men because I was worried they wouldn't come off "manly" enough. It was like 2nd-hand pressure to make sure my male characters would fit male/masculine standards/stereotypes lol.
This is random but last week while I was on vacation I came up with this original story that started out as fanfic only I altered the Supernatural universe and Sam & Dean's characters so much I realized it was original. The part where I altered Sam & Dean's characters so much was the most interesting thing ever though, where I gave Sam the sense of humor+mischief & a pretty slutty disposition instead of Dean. I made Dean more serious and grounded but still always the more badass/powerful of the two of them; he's also *way* more respected by the town than Sam.
I sat back being like "okay these are totally different characters now" but I was amped that I was still so super confident about being able to write them and their dynamics together.
Sooooo... yeah. This veered way off from talking about Mary Sues. I'll post about Mary Sues in a toptier comment.. lol | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyR09XV1hTSHotUlgxSFViQlR0Vk9pQ09jdTJVZERURklrbHVNYTBVTU81YWFhZFluZkxWU29nbFl6d1U4ZUtraXd6ZnotYnNKN3JIZTA1dk5mSWlDWXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5TFdkRExDRnNua3g0ZDFOeDFHSzQwYnpSQkwtMWJCRzlzN1FWeXlVWHRWRFp5NDUyUi13ZHpvaXVIbUdhcnRORk1sNk5YbFRob3NOX01LcUk4T1VXRFJ0S3dEYkpVZ0lpMEZxampOSmd5ZWJSaXhFTWF2SGY4TkxvZmU2a3I5dVpBVEZnalRpcDVibGU0QU5jMEpCRVlVNXZmalJPYnFIMTE0dF9YNDlwVEpwNkVoaVljckdTTmM4bEw1eFozV2Z2 |
Back when I was writing fanfiction, I tried reeeeally hard to keep my stories within canon, my characters authentic, and the plot at least semi-believable. (I wrote a TON of porn for the Mass Effect fandom.) The only time I went into Mary Sue territory was when I did a mega happy ending fix short story because ME3 gave me all the sads.
Mary Sue-ing seems to be something inexperienced writers do when they're trying to find their voice. It's hard to write well, and it can be fun to do a self-insert fic now and again, but the best stories I've read had hardships and tragedy at their core and were really well done while staying true to the canon.
So, I guess what I'm getting at is that I get why people do it, and I don't hate it, but I try not to do it in my own stories. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyWW03YldUU3RvUi16Mnl4b2EwOEQ3WHF5SnZPb3dLa3VoSExsdlFwcnFrSWNXeGp4Q09Za0FWYWt5S1NmbjlFOUlvR1R6WnRZZ1BJcnhzdFRabkV1UVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5eURuQnFfNVM5dmVsZGo0VHAtX2dwSVpXNmpybUh4aC1PZjlVejEtQk1TSUt5XzBDQlQ1TW5SY2ZmeFdLRVdEVF92dThRN0VucFZUdVRkbXktam43UXBwSElPbkJsWi1yVW1kNmNfdGlCdkNGdjJjQ1hvUzQ5a2dSaXY0NnYtNkJ4SW5sWTUzenVRWGNkcVN2U1JNMzd5TERzOGRzUVNNdkRzZ180cTdDQzVGaDBYRTBuUUM3SUJjYjgwN0V0WUhk |
I was thinking of Sarah as I wrote this, but for other reasons. She wasn't perfect, she wasn't the center or focus of attention, and she didn't come waltzing in right off as the romantic lead. There was a plot arc with her that wasn't about hooking up with Sam, so readers got to know and like her first before the relationship started. She's very helpful as a character in a professional job, but she's not a manic pixie either. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyRldiLTFlM3pTQ3VucGdsbFZnbG9mX2J3N2hHa3pRMmt2dUVWM1hrRlgxWEJEajlSc18zZUVFRHR5WFJSUzZIeXp1dDk3WllDZk9MeE1zMnVPZmUyVFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5WnZXeDVyblh2NHVqdzNQV2I1TjFXRTd2bjNGYkF4ekNyX1EyM05rUlVhdE13OUg0QV94RExKMThiSUtoZFlKYjU5cjVpc1FqU3BLZnBjUlExXzhiSWFoY19xUEg1U1dESTIyVEZfeGl1bTdvVk96VnFCTklPUGQ2REdiLVJWcHZ3Q0p1S01qS0MtUTgtNFRqdWtyaUlVbG0tUVZxaENXeWNGbVVFUHVTclNMdG9SSHJVZnFndlRaMDAycFFoTy01 |
Honestly I've heard the term "Mary Sue" and "Marty Stu" used in such a biting way before that I don't really enjoy seeing it anymore. Since the term originated out of fanfiction, I hear an implicit denigration of fanfiction (which I object to; feel defensive about) when people call a character in a movie or tv show or book a Mary Sue in such an intense/biting way.
I also tend to think there are way better & funnier & more poetic ways to criticize someone's writing of a character that may be considered a Mary Sue. I love it most when people are like, "the author is totally riding the main character's dick throughout this book," lol, or "this woman had so many powers I was surprised she didn't have laser beams shooting out of her eyes," or "this guy was so in control of the situation even when he shouldn't have been I thought maybe he was God for a second," or "Trusting the narrator became impossible when they started describing the main character as having so many contradicting traits and abilities that were all framed to cast them in a gaggingly exalted light."
Stuff like that, I love. Just going "ugh she's such a Mary Sue/Marty Stu" -- it's just not enough for me... and I keep hearing an undertone of judgment towards fanfiction in it. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyMGRoSnY5alpEalR5RjBzTzQtWmt4b2dzcmZKb2Q3eThYLWIzQXV0TUdiUzBWQlZla044V1JMbUkzRXVRN1d4U3lWLTFHUWhVZWh4STFOaGhLOVhGWUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5enRBdHp4X3laU3lmVkgtMWRUYXNoOW5MUXRXdnU4bm5yQmNhdk94SXBFWkhqdWJfRnVyUF9CY2lRMzR3cVh2SER3all1NndIYm8xS2ZFVEE5dVBoVGJDd1NwU1Vfc0FrOUlNQllqdkpnVWJmTzRpX2NmWUsyclFpR3ZBVmJ4b2ZoNzQ2Umw1ZzFkbDF5dTdGNUJJeV9EZzlESld2Q3hkZjNZYzNQbGlrODFOVTJCZVdsN1lNMzg1MjUtQWlIN2xj |
Yup. It can get ridiculous. "My god, she can read without moving her lips. Fucking Mary Sue." | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyUWhFRmY3Wm16RzczRW5MU3ZZOVEyYVhtU0lNaUd0dmU5eXpqaWFrdWstTHdvY2c1QURCandMVml0Y3FMbllQWXMxXzBqR3Fvb3k0RVdXX0FHdUhiZEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5SEdWNmkzaS1yTzNabW5ueFQzQmNQVG4tcVFLNGtrMnlfQzg1STdUeUI3cnpOWWE2WHV4ODZlM0xyNnNNLTN0eHk1amo5M2lzTWVWN0k4UllpZG1Za3dEUV9oNkRaSXhteFlyTlNRZkhUdFhWYlk5ODRjaFhXcGREbGJkc1NMU0VzZC1fVE5ydkxycVp3Q0JTYjQ2ak1TSU1wQ2huVTZ4NXJlTXRRM2Zvc2NxcGNwWFhRRUgtMWNzR3kzeEdKUHJS |
So one of my first fics was a female teenaged OC 1st person POV fic called 'Ordinary People.' I basically checked all the things you're *not* supposed to do in fanfic as a fun exercise to see if I could pull it off. I'll also admit I channeled high-school-me for the narration/judgments *however* the title was "Ordinary People" specifically to indicate that she's ordinary (which she pretty much was).
So I started posting chapters and I got reviews & people really enjoyed the OC whose name I randomly decided was Jesse, not knowing at all that that spelling is typically only for guys (I knew a female "Jesse" in high school; I totally always thought it was a unisex name/spelling). Since it was first person, I hadn't identified her gender for several chapters. For awhile I thought I'd leave it up in the air as to whether people wanted to interpret the OC as female or male but eventually a scene happened where it seemed uniquely female-oriented re:behavior (imo) and I'd always thought of her as a girl anyway that I just went ahead and revealed her gender.
Needless to say, I was rather surprised/astonished that so many people assumed she was a he and were genuinely annoyed she was actually female. One person PMed me acknowledging she didn't know what it said about her but she found herself re-evaluating Jesse's entire character now that she was female.
It was sort of annoying because it was a relatively real depiction of how I personally was in high school. It wasn't a power trip: I really *didn't* have like *any* crushes in high school - I probably wouldn't have been interested in Sam or Dean - I loved to (still do) play with Ouijia boards, I valued friendship to the nth degree, etc etc. These were all realistic teenaged-girl thoughts/values with myself as evidence, lol, and people were angry because they thought it'd been a boy's & it jarred them to think of a girl with these thoughts/values.
Annnyway. Weird intro experience to fanfiction & female OCs there. I think I got into an argument with someone over PMs with the person claiming that being a woman necessarily influences *all* your thoughts & values & whatnot and so the way I wrote Jesse was off because it was so gender nonspecific and I was like "it wasn't gender nonspecific; I wrote this entire thing thinking she was a girl," yada yada yada... | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyVEs4bkszNWNabjRQdmJYVXJpMGI1S3ptWFdNRGcwVFpYNzYyeDVMajQxbC1CbFdpcmtqNGcyTE1QWFdxNnZENkxMQVFZOTlPeDFMV2ZaNWFIYmtDTEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5aVcyOHlhZnZvQ244UzEzYXlrTmJxa2RyMVhWLUl6dThiREhjcTIyUGV5clB4Vi1ldVlQTzZUcUlucDhPWHJDX0Vvd1ppRTdZTGVNelgzUE13cEdReURISWN4Wl9SVllNb2FBWnV5WGhOcW52MDFtMks2VmRDcHh2ckdOM3NCWE95bVhtQmpiX1BieVlfNjJuZ0FkZVZvLTVvc29tdXNyRUJfbjhjZjlfU3BfSFBvbzZWaUd3blN0Ql8tdjdMQkh2 |
I think readers can get genuinely jolted if their image of the character is contradicted later by the text - and it's not necessarily that the reader was being biased originally, but more that the cognitive dissonance of having to reframe your mental picture can be really disorienting. In the Sarah example above, I made a clumsy error of totally failing to give any physical description of her (this was because originally she was just a generic nurse that only gonna be in 1 chapter) - and especially, I hadn't given a clue about her age. When she started having the relationship w Sam it turned out there were a bunch of readers who for whatever reason had been imagining her as old. (not the majority of readers, only like a quarter of them or something, but for some reason some of them had pictured a professional nurse being an older woman).
I don't think those readers who'd pictured her as old had been biased against old women or anything - they just happened to picture her as old. But it was interesting see how they had to mentally slam on the brakes, like, "wait wait WAIT, Sarah's TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN I PICTURED!" And it just made it a confusing experience for them.
(So I went back and worked in a clumsy age-clarification that was something like "Back when I started nursing school at age 22, six years ago..." lol.)
Ever since though I've tried to give some kind of physical description of the character right off the bat just to make sure the reader is on the same page (ha ha GET IT?) that I'm on. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoya1FyVmhHNVVrRDBVcUFJeEZHVVdmdk0zNzhPWUtRN0JzdU9ZN0ZrdWcxRWFaV1BLOEI4dUpKOFNyR2hBVHo1OU1JMmRQcWhQdzl2UFBEaDhicXRzUVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5MjVnWWpOcVJPcFFrQmtLOWRJLU9BVHVOY1BoOFJ1VTZuMUVTVzdnR0xac0hUMWpRR1h2cUZlNmFIa2hYS3h4UlhwUkd3TF9qM2dMLUxsTjdkcTVJY2hDTHdJUjQzY01MZVd3cmNTcF82TE1tVmZhMDFtSEl5QjdVT09tNHlNWmhFdlJBRFhzZWpHNHd2VE9BWUdCWXJfUC1JaUxkN004SDlqSDNZdmtwX2NmcXBNSnBURGNQRk83Vmx5a0xyM3lT |
I actually can't recall whether I edited my story - OH. You know what I did? I edited my writer's note in the first chapter letting people know that the main POV character is a girl. It was a begrudging edit even though it was just an edit to a writer's note though bc I was so off-put by how annoyed people were about her gender (going back to look at the reviews - I realize now that I actually revealed her gender in the very last chapter).
People finished the story w/the last chapter & acted like I'd ruined the entire story by having made her female. It kinda pissed me off. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyRjFPMXpGcjlGVEZPa2d6SVR1NVFaVFlEVkNwWlkweVdEUnJ0b0x0S3dGMTR2LV9IdWNEMUlNX2JiaWdqRmdrcjRVVTQwWFZXcWpmS3E4SUdQUnFHcUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5Qk0tN0lMRldBbThRLUNndXpjdzNiUkhEa0xUN2p3T1RUM3VPVmVpdkVGeW50RkVjejJ0N0N4LTFRSmRwQVhsX2NpM2ZlRFJNN0tTSGgtWUVNRi1xb245YmtucW5QMU0xQ2l0THNUck5vc25ORk13X0ZmdWVqYS03ZmJwWUUzamtFMFltUGxkem80OE83MjlKc3dSVjNyNzhpTWlPeUdZeUt3Zk9MaUpwOTJQVU1FM05NeU54VjVNYnJ0dktENGxT |
I think of Mary Sues in two senses: One, a wish-fulfillment author self-insert. Two (this is a characteristic of the original Mary Sue from Star Trek fanfic) a character who's unbelievably and freakishly good at everything.
I think I have never had a tendency to write Mary Sues of either type myself. Re authorial self-inserts, I think I'm just too negative about myself to want to see myself in a story, lol; and as for the "good at everything" part of it, I'm naturally inclined toward writing stories of characters being overwhelmed and in over their heads - *not* characters who are naturally gifted at everything.
As for other people's stories, oddly I see Mary Sues more in commercial fiction than in the fanfic that I read. Though maybe that's because the only fanfic I read is from Supernatural, where you have mostly-female writers writing an all-male cast (sigh) with few ways to work new characters in, and so there's less opportunity to work in an authorial self-insert. (unlike, maybe, a world like Harry Potter where you can very naturally have a new crop of students arrive at the beginning of the school year.) Anyway, I guess I only really start to think "Mary Sue" if the second part of it, the skill set of the character, gets ridiculous, *and also* if the character is the one and only protagonist. Like, Daenerys Targaryen in Game of Thrones would've been Mary Sue ish if she were the only lead character. Mother of dragons! Freer of slaves! BAMF diplomat too! how freaking badass is that? And badass both in that "ooookay this is feeling like wish fulfillment" sort of way and also in the "this skill set is getting a bit extreme" sense. But she was one of multiple lead characters, so, for me, she didn't come off Mary Sue ish. (not to mention that the author is a guy. though I guess I don't require a match of author sex = character sex to perceive a Mary Sue)
In contrast, Kvothe, in Name Of The Wind and especially in the sequel Wise Man's Fear, started to get *sooooo* super awesome at so many different skills (best magician ever! youngest ever admitted to the magic university! best lute player! best musician! best thief, best ninja, best virgin lover, learns languages in a single day, snatches girls heroically out of fires WHERE DO I STOP) that Marty Stu-ness started leaking out my eyeballs as I kept on reading. Kvothe is the sole protagonist in that series so there's no escape from him, unlike w Daenerys. You're stuck with Mr. Awesome the whole way and the awesomeness starts to really get noticeable.
Katniss Everdeen and of course the infamous Bella Swan definitely have whiffs of that too. (best archer! *sweetest-smelling human!*)
A big thing for me though is that *I still enjoyed* Name Of The Wind and Hunger Games. (not so much Twilight, but for other reasons). Just cause I start thinking "Mary Sue" doesn't mean I think it's a bad story... it's more like, it just puts the story into a certain genre for me, but not a bad genre. I identify a book as Mary Sue ish and I *keep on reading anyway.* Because, sometimes it actually IS fun to ride that wish-fulfillment horse. Additionally sometimes it's a totally valid storytelling choice to consider: well, *somebody's* got to be the best magician at the magic school, *somebody's* gotta win the dystopian-society death match; what would it be like to be that person? That's a valid choice for what story you want to tell. Though I do find it more... believable, I guess is the word, or more compelling, if the character is only the World's Best at 1 skill, maybe two, absolute max three. It's fine to be the world's best archer, Mother of Dragons AND have the world's sexiest vampire fall in love with you too, but if you add world's best piccolo player to that list, I dunno, I guess that's where I start to roll my eyes. I do like it when characters get challenged sometimes, and fail, and doubt themselves, and have to struggle and work hard, and it's hard for any of that to happen if they're always the best at everything. | r/fangirls | comment | r/Fangirls | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyNDh4SDhIZE5JSlVUUnhCRmI5OVFmQ01oeDNaRUZNS3lVVVVUVEdzOWJSZnhXMml2dmpoYzNmZmJQcF82QkdLRWtRSjVVbFdBUFRqd3p4OGNzVXNHQVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5NFl3bEh2ZHFlMERJdV9pdV91SHFMWDJHUTR5RVhNb2VGZG00WDNiZGV2X2xhME1LbWl1S29PTjZuNzE0WEljLXMxT1hSRWVTQ2hZWEVQUW1PR3hGWkVCRnNLSnY1bXJQeDRLQ1U3OF9Mc2ZSMTA3aVQ2QU5hSUJiNWVuSVlrdlplaVFOV3VzM2NVbTA3ZU4tN2FpYk9RaU5SWnNsZmQwclp3dVdmalN2LUFrV1prYmo1TV9wUHVUeGMxS3o2ZHJq |
I'm currently attempting to create a map of Colorado with all the different outdoor activities as separate layers. However, I need sub-layers as well. Does anyone know of a free map service that offers such a thing while still allowing me to collaborate with others on the map? | r/mapprojects | post | r/mapprojects | 2015-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFoyelBablJWX2d6bWIxa3B6dldMR20yTS1RekZEMHd6WFFpR2RzRDZKQXYzQ3FoNkZIWGdfTWlYV1drZkQtRUgtbWhfaWRyZnl0c3AyT0VFZzU3MllfelE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm41SFo5dFlvNnY1Ylg0eG1ETUR6VzVHdFBRWE1DdFQ1ZmVxZHc0WHlmOHBMbjJiQkpNakRXSWxRN3R0R0kwTnN1dHd3LTRzS0ZNODRoRG9yLVlIVGRoU3hYZzhmYlR0ZC1xTUttT2pTUXc1enBSNXRjdXZxS1Y5ZnY3cmxSMTZTRTE2NmpyVDFFd1ZQUWlDMl9TVTVndGowVVdkc2h6OVNzanNDakk4a0NBeVY5aE84UTljbTM1MHNQN1NXbzZmNFN4dmhq |
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