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And the next thing is, as I called out, we always want to take performance as a first class citizen.
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p
So we are looking at how we can allow you to change or adapt frozen Embeddings, let’s say open a Embedding or any other model to your specific domain.
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p
So maybe a separate toolkit within Fast Embed which is optional and not a part of the default path, because this is not something which you will use all the time.
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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We want to make sure that your training and experience parts are separate.
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So we will do that.
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p
Yeah, that’s it.
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p
Fast and sweet.
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There was somebody that talked about how you need to be good at your puns and that might be the best thing, best brag worthy stuff you’ve got.
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Is it true that when we use Qdrant client add Fast Embedding is included?
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We don’t have to do it?
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Yeah, I think it’s more just like you don’t have to add it on to Qdrant in any way or this is completely separated.
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So this is client side.
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You own all your data and even when you compress it and send us all the Embedding creation happens on your own compute.
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p
This Embedding creation does not happen on Cauldron cloud, it happens on your own compute.
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It’s consistent with the idea that you should have as much control as possible.
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This is also why, as of now at least, Fast Embed is not a dedicated server.
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We do not want you to be running two different docker images for Qdrant and Fast Embed.
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Or let’s say two different ports for Qdrant and Discord within the sorry, Qdrant and Fast Embed in the same docker image or server.
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So, yeah, that is more chaos than we would like.
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Yeah, and I think if I understood it, I understood that question a little bit differently, where it’s just like this comes with Qdrant out of the box.
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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Yes, I think that’s a good way to look at it.
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We set all the defaults for you, we select good practices for you and that should work in a vast majority of cases based on the MTEB benchmark, but we cannot guarantee that it will work for every scenario.
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Let’s say our default model is picked for English and it’s mostly tested on open domain open web data.
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So, for instance, if you’re doing something domain specific, like medical or legal, it might not work that well.
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So that is where you might want to still make your own Embeddings.
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So that’s the edge case here.
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What are some of the other knobs that you might want to be turning when you’re looking at using this.
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p
So one thing which I mean, one is definitely try the different models which we support.
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p
We support a reasonable range of models, including a few multilingual ones.
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So, for instance, let’s say this is how you would have to manually specify, let’s say, passage or query.
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When you do this, let’s say add and query.
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What we do, we add the passage and query keys while creating the Embeddings for you.
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So this is taken care of.
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So whatever is your best practices for the Embedding model, make sure you use it when you’re using it with Qdrant or just in isolation as well.
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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So that is one knob.
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The second is, I think it’s very commonly recommended, we would recommend that you start with some evaluation, like have maybe let’s even just five sentences to begin with and see if they’re actually close to each other.
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And as a very important shout out in Embedding retrieval, when we use Embedding for retrieval or vector similarity search, it’s the relative ordering which matters.
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So, for instance, we cannot say that zero nine is always good.
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p
It could also mean that the best match is, let’s say, 0.6 in your domain.
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p
So there is no absolute cut off for threshold in terms of match.
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p
So sometimes people assume that we should set a minimum threshold so that we get no noise.
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p
So I would suggest that you calibrate that for your queries and domain.
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And you don’t need a lot of queries.
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Even if you just, let’s say, start with five to ten questions, which you handwrite based on your understanding of the domain, you will do a lot better than just picking a threshold at random.
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Okay, thanks for that.
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So there’s a question coming through in the chat from Shreya asking how is the latency in comparison to elasticsearch?
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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Elasticsearch?
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I believe that’s a Qdrant benchmark question and I’m not sure how is elastics HNSW index, because I think that will be the fair comparison.
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I also believe elastics HNSW index puts some limitations on how many vectors they can store with the payload.
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p
So it’s not an apples to apples comparison.
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p
It’s almost like comparing, let’s say, a single page with the entire book, because that’s typically the ratio from what I remember I also might be a few months outdated on this, but I think the intent behind that question is, is Qdrant fast enough for what Qdrant does?
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p
It is definitely fast is, which is embedding similarity search.
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p
So for that, it’s exceptionally fast.
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It’s written in Rust and Twitter for all C. Similar tweets uses this at really large scale.
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They run a Qdrant instance.
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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So I think if a Twitter scale company, which probably does about anywhere between two and 5 million tweets a day, if they can embed and use Qdrant to serve that similarity search, I think most people should be okay with that latency and throughput requirements.
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I mean, you called it Fast Embed for a reason, right?
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Nirant Kasliwal:
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So there’s another question that I’ve got coming through and it’s around the model selection and embedding size.
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p
And given the variety of models and the embedding sizes available, how do you determine the most suitable models and embedding sizes?
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p
You kind of got into this on how yeah, one thing that you can do to turn the knobs are choosing a different model.
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But how do you go about choosing which model is better?
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There.
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There is the academic way of looking at and then there is the engineer way of looking at it, and then there is the hacker way of looking at it.
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p
And I will give you all these three answers in that order.
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So the academic and the gold standard way of doing this would probably look something like this.
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You will go at a known benchmark, which might be, let’s say, something like Kilt K-I-L-T or multilingual text embedding benchmark, also known as MTEB or Beer, which is beir one of these three benchmarks.
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