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You sound like a maybea little bit of a competitive person.
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I always got straight A's in competition,that's for sure.
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I’m Hank Green and here at Study Hallwe are obsessed with learning how people learn
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and make hard life decisions. Today, I’m talking to
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WNBA superstar, Olympian, entrepreneur, andall around awesome person, Sue Bird. Sue and I
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both have weird schedules so we had to film thisinterview remotely which is why it looks a little
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different but we got to discuss her education,and how that education played such an important
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role in her life and career.
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Welcome, Sue Bird. Olympic gold medalist,
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athlete, legend, state bird of Washington, I've heard.
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It's absolutely a joy to have you here.I am honored that you showed up.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.Thank you for having me.
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Also on the list: Entrepreneur.You are making a thing. What is ‘Togethxr’?
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Togethxr is a media and commerce companythat myself, Alex Morgan,
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Simone Manuel and Chloe Kim founded.And it was really just our way for,
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you know, women athleteswho wanted to change
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how women's sports was covered, right?Try to make a dent in the fact
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that only 4% of media coverageat the time was going
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towards women's sports.So this was our way of kind of,
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making our mark.
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And like I said, putting a dentthat and it's working so far, right?
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I think I think last reportedI think we're up to like 16%.
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So, that's exciting news.And we do a lot of different
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things in Togethxr, it's a great brand.We're having a lot of fun with it.
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I want to talk about your,like, your education journey.
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So like from the very beginning also,was school like a thing
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that you thought about thatyou enjoyed or was
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it was like a have to thingor was it like a get to thing?
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Uh, it was definitely a have to thing. Yeah.
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But simultaneously, it was very muchemphasized in our household.
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I was really lucky.I mean, my parents put a premium on it.
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It was very important.I was really lucky
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because I had an older sister.She's five years older. Her name's Jen.
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Jen was incredibly good and gifted,you know, incredibly intelligent.
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And, like I said, really good at school.So I had someone in the house
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that I was like, looking up to every day,comparing myself to every day.
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you know, it's kind of funnybecause when I was in,
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you know, elementary school,middle school,
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whenever I'd get a teacher that Jen had,you know, it'd be like,
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oh, “you're Jen's little sister.”
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And I’d be like, “Yeeeeah.”
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And I was like, well, I'm going, I'm goingto try to get straight A's like she did.
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But, you know, we'll see.and then, now I got the last laugh
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because now people,when they meet her, they're like,
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oh, you're Sue's sister.
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Wow. So it all worked
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out, no, I'm joking, I’m joking.
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You sound like a maybea little bit of a competitive person.
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I always got straight A's in competition,that's for sure.
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It sounds like having a big sister
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was an important thing. Oh, yeah, it still is. Still is.
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Did you start to knowthat you were good at stuff?
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And, like, how could you tellwhen you were, like, good at a thing?
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And also, how would you had you eventually
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started to have to, like, pickwhich thing you were going to be good at?
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Yeah.Uh, you know, I was always, like I said,
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I was always active as a kid.So, you know,
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the organized part of sports didn’t come'til probably like third or fourth grade.
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Uh, but I do remember, I like, actuallyremember this, even though my parents
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have told the story so much, sometimesthat line can be blurred a little bit.
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I do remember, I remembermy very first soccer game, and I remember
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being we're probably talking,like I said, third grade,
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and I remember being so scaredthat I was going to pick the ball up.
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I have no idea why.It's totally irrational.
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I was freaking out on the way to the game.Like I'm going to pick it up.
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I'm going to pick it up.Like, who knows
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what the hell I was thinking?and as legend goes, this part
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I don't really remember,but I kind of remember.
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As legend goes, I went out thereand I scored like six, seven, eight goals.
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Like, I was all over the place,like sports always came naturally to me.
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So I was always, if not the best. Right.No matter what sport I was playing,
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I was always one of the best.I was always one of the most athletic kids
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in my school, in my grade. Gym class,I was always picked first.
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You know, every now and thenthere'd be a hater like a boy hater,
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you know, and he wouldn't pick me first.But, you know, I'd have to show him up.
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Of course.I was, it just always came naturally.
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And then I thinkas it got more serious. Right.
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So now we're heading into middle school.I start joining travel teams
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and AAU teams for basketball.And then of course,
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once you get into high school,it gets even more serious.
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But I think I really understood,particularly in basketball, it happened in soccer
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as well, but particularly in basketball.I remember we played in a national tournament
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when I was in sixth grade,and you started getting college letters.
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They weren't anything. It wasn't like so deep.it was actually very surface-y.
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All it was, was, hey, we saw you play andlike a very, you know, formatted letter.
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Mhm. We saw you play at this tournament.
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We would love to stay in touch.
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Can you please fill out this questionnairethat allows us to have your information?
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Wow. So, yeah,
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you start getting those types of lettersas early as, as a six, seventh grade.
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And that was kind of like I was like, oh,
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I remember Duke University was the first one I got,
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and I was like,oh, I must be all right at this.
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Kind of just went from there.
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I mean, so to back up a little bit.
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Do you feel like that was.It just something that was like
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natural and came natural and was just.Or was there an amount of,
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like the conditionsyou were in with some competitiveness,
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with your sister or the relationshipsyou had with your parents
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