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wammin
2007-04-18T21:41:11
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<i>Too many words!</i> This is my most common criticism for evaluating an interface. If you need so many words on the home page to describe how to do something or what it is, then it's not easy enough. Remember you only have about 20 seconds of somebody's attention before they decide to click away. I got lost pretty quick (and I'm actually pretty smart).<p>The crap about Jesus on the about page turned me off, too. You're welcome to your religious beliefs, but keep them on your blog or someplace more appropriate.
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juwo
2007-04-18T21:42:23
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no, that's not correct. It does not transcribe automatically. however the labels can have functionality attached. for example, to run the speech recognizer you have installed on your computer, on a voice note.
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dpapathanasiou
2007-04-18T21:42:45
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Basically, lose everything from the BBC page <i>except</i> the href to the clip you want to show and put it inside a "juwo" page, consistent with everything else on your site.<p>For a while there, I thought I was at bbcnews.com and I started reading all these extraneous links and photos.
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nostrademons
2007-04-18T21:44:20
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5% seems high for an employee, even the first. Usually the entire options pool is only about 20%, so if you give 5% for employee #1, there isn't much left over for anyone else.<p>I'd read that about 1.5% is typical for employee #1, and it decreases exponentially from there. I was offered 0.1% at the first startup I worked at (high school grad, there only for a year, employee #13) and 0.01% at one startup I interviewed at after college (college degree, good credentials, employee #22).<p>I ended up taking a job at a startup with no equity but a much larger salary - as in, $15K larger. I'd recommend this route. $15K is yCombinator funding in a year, any given startup is likely to fail anyways (my employer might actually succeed, but it's the slow-growing type), and if you don't have equity you're less likely to feel responsible for the success of the company, which means you have no compunction against leaving work at work and using your home time to work on your own startup.
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blader
2007-04-18T21:44:28
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I haven't downloaded it because the site doesn't inspire confidence that this is anything I want to install on my machine. Some suggestions:<p>1. Messaging.<p>I am confused about what Juwo really is as well. It seems to be a way to tag audio or video by time? There is way too much text on the page. I know Juwo probably has a ton of features, but you need to nail down your core message and drill it in (and design your product around it). Can you describe what Juwo is in 5 words or less? Now what about 2 words? Anything longer than that and you've exceeded my attention span.<p>2. Design<p>Horizontal scrolling plus web design circa 1995 plus religious proselytizing doesn't inspire confidence that this is something I want to use and would enjoy using. I strongly recommend looking at other websites featuring downloadable apps such as Skype.com or Trillian, etc to see how they are approaching this. This is compounded by the lack of a clear message as to what your product is.<p>From what I understood of the core idea, it seems useful, but I can't see myself downloading a standalone app for this functionality. Btw, Have you checked out <a href="http://www.veotag.com?">http://www.veotag.com?</a> Seems like a competitor.
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juwo
2007-04-18T21:44:52
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I assume you ran it on Windows? The download JDIC libraries are for Windows. If anyone is good with javascript, we can port it to run on other platforms.
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rotich
2007-04-18T21:46:16
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Try adding a wife and some kids and report back!
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Tichy
2007-04-18T21:50:42
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Even if users are not uploading movie clips, they are still providing content by adding comments and ratings and social network nodes (for whatever purpose). So I think the study doesn't really understand Web 2.0).
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jslogan
2007-04-18T21:51:51
Which Is Best: More Customers Visiting Once or Fewer Customers Visiting More Often?
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nostrademons
2007-04-18T21:54:14
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Lack of a social life takes care of that one. ;-)
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abstractbill
2007-04-18T21:56:45
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Linux (ubuntu). I clicked on the first demo when I saw it, without reading the rest of the front page (which was pretty overwhelming). I didn't see anywhere that would suggest this was a Windows thing until later.
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Tichy
2007-04-18T21:57:58
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Can't you switch school/subjects/whatever? I thought it could get more interesting later on, as you could get involved in research.
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dfranke
2007-04-18T22:01:49
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Works for me.
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Tichy
2007-04-18T22:06:46
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my typical experience that Perl didn't work as expected right away. That's just because it is so much more messy. I didn't say that Perl doesn't work, it is just harder to use.
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:07:13
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It goes much further than veotag IMHO. I have a comparison matrix with with competitors, including veotag.<p>
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:09:47
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I really apologize. I am not a Windows guy myself. (Read my rant on how Java harmed Unix and helped windows win).<p>It is my major priority to get it working on Linux and Mac.
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:10:34
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the point is that a visitor to the BBC page would click on the video link, and a juwo of the video would pop up.
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mikedaniels301
2007-04-18T22:11:03
StumbleUpon.com Traffic Data - Is eBay Paying Too Much
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blader
2007-04-18T22:12:05
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I think the difference is that I can understand what Veotag is in about 2 seconds, and I am still trying to figure you what Juwo is after really reading about it and thinking about it, and I did that only because I was asked to check it out. <p>More features does not a better product make. More importantly, you can have 100x times Veotag's features, but it won't matter unless you can make people understand, <i>instantly</i> what your product is. <p>Now I imagine I'm a random stranger on the internet stumbling across your site. You really have less than 5 seconds of time before I click off back to YouTube or something. I just don't have that much attention.
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RyanGWU82
2007-04-18T22:12:39
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If you're going to have a car, there are a whole bunch of independent motels on El Camino Real in Palo Alto and Mountain View. Many of these aren't advertised on sites like Expedia, so just use Google Maps to find them, and then contact them directly for rates. Some of 'em look kinda sketchy, but they're all safe, lots of nearby food, and probably clean enough. ;-) Hit me up directly if you want a local's opinion on a particular Mountain View motel. (At least how it looks from the outside.)<p>Also, you can get great deals on Priceline for excellent hotels near San Francisco Airport. I've gotten rooms a couple times for under $40 per night for 3 or 4 star properties. (The 3 star ones may be better because they won't gouge you on parking and Internet.) Check out www.biddingfortravel.com to see what kind of rates people are getting. Most airport hotels have transportation shuttles, so you can stay near the airport and take Caltrain to your interview. But, shuttle-BART-Caltrain is a bit of a schlep.<p>Congrats and good luck! Are the interviews this weekend or next?
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:13:20
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that's weird - it is straight html, done in dreamweaver 8.<p>thank you for taking the trouble to get the screenshot. I shall run it from firefox on Linux
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-18T22:13:55
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I guess that explains the numerous YC-bashing blog posts I've been reading recently...<p>Maybe this guy was also looking for financing? :)
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:15:58
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I read that people dont want to click, but scrolling is ok - I thought that was the lecture at startup school? (I saw a breief note on it here on this site)<p>the condensation is at the diagrams on the right.<p><i>Should I move the diagrams left?</i><p>I am stubborn about Jesus; even though I have lost a lot of good opportunities because of it.
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davidw
2007-04-18T22:18:19
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You think? As someone potentially in the same situation as he is, I would feel uneasy about writing something that's not the truth.
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aston
2007-04-18T22:19:03
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Hackers don't really need word processing for their day to day jobs, but Writely's a killer. Also, geeks don't read ads, but it's Google's bread and butter. I would chalk Google's success up more to great execution (or buying great execution) than anything else, whether it appears their engineers need the product or not. The main places Google has failed have been sites where the network effect is crucial; they don't do so well with community sites. If Zenter's got some of that secret sauce, then, I'm guessing they'll be fine. Otherwise, :(
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akkartik
2007-04-18T22:20:03
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Related:<p>When something is built for a well-defined purpose it's much easier to judge how timeless its solutions are.<p><a href="http://rodfrey.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/the-craftsmanship-of-code">http://rodfrey.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/the-craftsmanship-of-code</a><p>Appreciating beauty in a specific medium requires knowing the 'language', the conventions of that medium.<p><a href="http://www.tinkerx.com/index.php/2007/04/15/the-box-part-2-the-frame">http://www.tinkerx.com/index.php/2007/04/15/the-box-part-2-the-frame</a>
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wehriam
2007-04-18T22:21:36
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Go in with leverage and be ready to walk. By telling the employer you're unhappy with the compensation, you force their hand.<p>If they choose or are unable to increase your salary or equity, they will (correctly) assume you are not satisfied and likely will not meet your full potential. While there may be no immediate consequences, this will have long term effects on your relationship with the company.<p>That said, fortune favors the bold! The thread has some fine advice, good luck.
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bootload
2007-04-18T22:23:05
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<i>'... Microsoft is shooting at you, and it's just cover fire so that they can move forward and you can't, because this is how the game is played ...'</i> [0]<p>Why are readers worried about articles like this? More to the point why are you reading them at all? They lack irony, humour and certainly lack a coherent message. Here's mine. You don't read this site & pg's articles just to get funded do you? If you do your missing the point. You are going for the egg instead of the goose. [1] [2]<p>Don't play the game, move forward.<p>Reference<p>[0] Joel On Software, 'Fire And Motion'<p><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html</a><p>[1] Khosla, Vinod, <i>'... Khosla met staffer Andreas Bechtolsheim, a workstation designer and research scientist at the Stanford University network. Bechtolsheim had built a computer workstation and had begun licensing his creation to companies for $10,000. Khosla talked his new colleague into ceasing the licensing game in favor of manufacturing the workstations themselves. "I want the goose that laid the golden egg, and I don't want the golden egg," ...'</i><p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/37hve4">http://tinyurl.com/37hve4</a><p> [2] If you still don't get it, "It's the information", not the lottery of yc. Reading through pg's articles a clearer path is created in which you can avoid the ugly trolls and other unexpected obstacles, in the maze of twisty little passages creating startups.
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rotich
2007-04-18T22:24:02
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I forgot you are a geek! :)
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RyanGWU82
2007-04-18T22:26:33
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YC News seems like a good place to start. ;-) Anyone here at Stanford? If so, hit me up (my email is in my profile).
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madanella
2007-04-18T22:28:17
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I also highly recommend using Priceline for hotels. Especially in the bay area. We pay 28-45 dollars/night and often end up in 3.5-4 star hotels.
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:29:12
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'we' is the <i>truth</i> because my wife does give me valuable advice and assessment on juwo, on people I interact with for juwo. Even though she has 0% equity.
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brett
2007-04-18T22:32:11
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I have <i>no</i> idea what's going on on that page. Is it a blog? Is it a product?
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RyanGWU82
2007-04-18T22:34:22
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Well, you know more about your situtation than I do, so I'm not going to second-guess your strategy. But this does sound a little complex -- too complex for YC News to be much help. A $200 consultation with a lawyer might prevent a big headache later.
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juwo
2007-04-18T22:34:30
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so tell me, how should I explain it? <i>should I move the diagrams to the left, or just one column?</i>
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cogitate
2007-04-18T22:34:49
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i agree with 50 yo Bob G.apple is superficial too. only when they go GPL will they leverage "web x.0".MS is old news.<p>-monish
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dfranke
2007-04-18T22:39:52
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Pacific Inn in Redwood City.
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blader
2007-04-18T22:40:03
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I really don't know how you would explain it, because I don't understand what your product is. Whatever your explanation is, it needs to be clear and concise, e.g. "Juwo is the easiest way to organize and share your recordings."<p>The location of the diagrams on your website is the least of its problems - it is almost irrelevant. I would suggest first getting rid of about 90+% of the text on your frontpage.
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mattculbreth
2007-04-18T22:41:11
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"Peace and blessings be upon him"<p>First we made Paul into Chuck Norris, and now he's a Prophet. This news.yc was a good move for him.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-18T22:42:56
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A search box inside skype? Based on that logic, we should be putting internet search boxes inside everything....<p>What about a search box inside iChat, iCal, and iPhoto too? genius...
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msgbeepa
2007-04-18T22:46:00
Piczo A Social Network - Now Available Also In Spanish, German And French
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vlad
2007-04-18T22:47:35
Free Bug Tracking? Joel on Software now giving out 2-user hosted FogBugz account ($63+/mo for more than 2 users)
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davidcatalano
2007-04-18T22:51:24
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To me the answer is simple: If you are looking to be VC or angel funded yet are just starting out then you should save the money and start an LLC. If you don't plan on VC funding then stick w/ an S Corp.<p>In 1999 we had an LLC and we converted it to a C Corp just before we acquired funding in 2000. This time around I'm a partner in an S Corp and am self-funding it. If my current situation changes, as someone already mentioned, it will be easy to change over to a C Corp.
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gibsonf1
2007-04-18T22:55:18
Webware: Cool Web apps for everyone
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gibsonf1
2007-04-18T22:56:29
Grouptivity pulls social bookmarking card
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danielha
2007-04-18T22:57:27
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It's all speculation at this point. I'm not a user of StumbleUpon, so correct me if I'm off base here, but I can see utilizing SU's site discovery tech for something in eBay's space, such as product or brand discovery.<p>Even if the acquisition has little to do with eBay's core business, it's easy to see that companies are always looking for expansionary development.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-18T23:02:30
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You know, I said that sarcastically, but it actually wouldn't be that bad of an idea...<p>It'd be really cool if apple integrated search engines into spotlight, iphoto, mail, etc.<p>For example, it would be cool if when I searched for "startup school" in iPhoto's search, iPhoto also flickr/google image results for startup school....
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danielha
2007-04-18T23:06:12
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The first thing I thought when I saw the headline was, "Thank god for hard investigative journalism!"
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jmtame
2007-04-18T23:08:45
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I agree. I attend one of the top schools where you're weeded out of the system very quickly unless you devote a lot of time to studying.<p>At least in my school, it's either you're all in (spending 50+ hours a week in and out of class), you barely get by (spending only time in class and minimal time out), or you get kicked out very quickly (spending only the time you have in classes).<p>I find myself coming up with mediocre grades and only mediocre startup work, when trying to do both :\
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unfoldedorigami
2007-04-18T23:09:22
A Simple Way to Build Confidence
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Goladus
2007-04-18T23:09:58
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I wasn't at the startup school either, but in my experience people don't want to have to scroll down just to find things. People will scroll down to follow something they've already started, such as a comment thread, an essay, or a list of topics. They also will scroll down to read a list of blog entries, preferably in chronological order. (Otherwise they'll prefer to follow links to particular articles)<p>But if there is a variety of different types of content on the page, there should at least be a table of contents to do the scrolling for you.
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unfoldedorigami
2007-04-18T23:10:25
20 Courses I Didn't Take in Design School
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blader
2007-04-18T23:13:00
Google Releases StumbleUpon Clone
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blader
2007-04-18T23:14:13
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"The first is a recommendations button on the Google Toolbar that looks like a pair of dice. /<i>Click on the dice, and we'll take you to a site that may be interesting to you based on your past searches. If you want another, just click the dice again and we'll show you a new one</i>. We'll give you up to 50 new sites per day that might be of interest. Just add the button to your Toolbar. (In order to use this feature, you need the latest version of the Toolbar.)"<p>Now that's timing.
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yaacovtp
2007-04-18T23:14:30
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You have to hand it to them for letting people switch back and forth from free 2 user accounts to paid multi users accounts and back FOREVER. Sounds to me like a great way to get people to try out your product absolutely risk free and with 2 user accounts being less than 5% of their user base they really have nothing to lose.<p>Will we see more of this in the multi user arena?
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extantproject
2007-04-18T23:15:32
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In one sentence, what is Juwo?
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danielha
2007-04-18T23:17:54
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Well, no one would pick the former choice because it's essentially an actual customer base versus stray eyeballs.<p>But keep in mind that web apps and advertisements are different beasts when it comes to frequency versus reach. For a web app, site, or service - of course you're going to want frequency. When it comes to advertising, the prevailing choice isn't as distinct. I'd contend that reach would have a greater chance of finding potential customers. Frequency can be seen as a nagging effect on deaf ears and blind eyes (the uninterested).
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wammin
2007-04-18T23:19:50
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I have no problem with scrolling ... but that doesn't mean you should try and cram more words on the page to explain what's going your website is about or how to use it. The harsh reality is that the vast majority of people won't make it through the first paragraph.<p>I don't have all the answers ... but try making better use of headlines, images/diagrams, or a quick demo. Somebody should be able to visit your site and quickly know what it is and the basics of how it's used. Juwo sounds like a cool idea, but I don't get that as soon as I hit the homepage.<p>Some examples of homepages that I like that do a good job of conveying the idea/service in less than 20 seconds (I have no affiliation with any of these): <a href="http://writewith.com/">http://writewith.com/</a> <a href="http://basecamphq.com/">http://basecamphq.com/</a>
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Goladus
2007-04-18T23:24:24
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When I visit the site, I have these questions, in this order:<p>(1) What is Juwo?<p>(2) How do I get it? (Or get access) <p>(3) How do I use it?<p>(3) What can it do for me?<p>Here's what happens when I visit the site:<p>(1) What is Juwo? After scrolling up and down trying to make sense of the page, I gave up and just started reading from the top. After the first two sections I still am not quite sure what it actually is. I feel I have to try to piece it together from all the little clues in the text.<p>(2) How do I get it? As far as I can tell, there is nothing to get. I can't find a download area or login box anywhere. Halfway down the page I see some demos, but I can't tell if that's the actual software or what.<p>(3) How do I use it? This question is answered, although I had to scroll down to find it and I don't really understand the explanation because I don't know what Juwo is (1) and don't know how to get it (2).<p>(4) What can it do for me? This question isn't important for me, but it is for some people. A lot of the page is devoted to talking about how the product can help me, however because (1) and (2) haven't been answered, I feel like I'm wasting my time.<p>
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mattjaynes
2007-04-18T23:29:52
Google Rains On StumbleUpon Parade: Launches Direct Competitor
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http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/18/google-rains-on-stumbleupon-parade-launches-direct-competitor/
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gibsonf1
2007-04-18T23:30:02
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Good point - can anyone recommend a good lawyer who is not outrageously expensive?
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pg
2007-04-18T23:34:39
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I can't tell what it does.<p>Aim for this: <a href="http://wufoo.com">http://wufoo.com</a>
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zaidf
2007-04-18T23:42:19
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My humble advice...<p>1. Take this demo OFF now! People are going to develop a SUPER BAD bias of your product that will be hard to overcome even in the future should you improve the UI.<p>2. Hire or partner with a UI designer who knows usability and design!<p>3. I'll hypothesize that most people that visit your site will leave without any clear idea of what your product is.
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bkmrkr
2007-04-18T23:49:13
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I still have no idea what the hell this is
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Tichy
2007-04-19T00:00:07
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I didn't even go to design school.
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zaidf
2007-04-19T00:01:19
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Seems more like Google is pissed than really desperate for StumbleUpon as a business threat. There must be a behind the door story to this. May be they weren't given a "fair" chance to make an offer?
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Elfan
2007-04-19T00:01:48
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Google acquired Writely.
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Tichy
2007-04-19T00:02:15
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I would recommend "How to make more room on my book shelf".<p>Sorry, going to sleep now...
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secretGeek
2007-04-19T00:05:41
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yeh i do know that ;-)<p>the last words of the article are: "(p.s. first person to write a comment that says "Paul Graham did not write reddit" deserves a lollipop.)"
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secretGeek
2007-04-19T00:05:50
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yeh i do know that ;-)<p>the last words of the article are: "(p.s. first person to write a comment that says "Paul Graham did not write reddit" deserves a lollipop.)"
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euccastro
2007-04-19T00:10:59
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FWIW, if I was starting a web app, I would focus on polishing the product based on the feedback of the users I have, to try and maximize conversion/retention rather than exposure.<p>In my first round of customers I'd look for feedback. I'd make more of a personal introduction; for example, post (with my real name and full disclosure) in some forums that have the demographics I want. Customers you get from press releases are less likely to bother and tell you what made them discard you.<p>When the time comes to scale up, I would still spend as much of my time improving/polishing the app (p.s.: and the overall experience around it) as I have feedback to act upon. Word of mouth will make you or kill you.
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sethjohn
2007-04-19T00:11:26
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I don't really get that. Corporations don't generally do things because they "get pissed", they do things because because it's economically advantageous in some way or another, no?
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gyro_robo
2007-04-19T00:12:56
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This article sure makes the OpenMoko look good: <a href="http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/openmoko/doing-open-the-right-way.html">http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/openmoko/doing-open-the-right-way.html</a><p>
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staunch
2007-04-19T00:13:53
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A few get inspired and work hard because they were accepted and the rest get inspired and work hard because they were rejected.<p>
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gibsonf1
2007-04-19T00:19:00
Newspapers, Yahoo shifting ad platform
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/18/BUGK5PAAMO88.DTL
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owinebar
2007-04-19T00:21:42
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Let's say you have developed your own programming language/infrastructure, such as Arc or GOAL or whatever. You want to use your tools for a new venture because they give you a lever your competition doesn't have. On the other hand, if the venture doesn't work out, you don't want your language/tools to be part of the liquidation, so you are not deprived of them in the future.<p> This is impolitic, but if you were starting a new venture and Arc were ready to be used in production, would you want to put it into the new company and, if not, how would you handle investors? This is a little more than hypothetical since you are using Arc in Ycombinator business, but it seems like a different situation than when forming a company with investors you barely know.
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gibsonf1
2007-04-19T00:21:58
Predictable payoff / $3.1 billion DoubleClick deal follows Hellman tradition
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/18/BUGLAPA83V42.DTL
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gibsonf1
2007-04-19T00:24:04
Group Sues Yahoo for Helping China
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/18/financial/f150245D62.DTL&type=business
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pg
2007-04-19T00:28:48
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Better to rain on the parade than before it. I bet the StumbleUpon guys are delighted they waited till now to do it instead of launching before the eBay deal closed.
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usablecontent
2007-04-19T00:29:43
Google Launches Queryless Search, Guns StumbleUpon
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http://startupmeme.com/2007/04/18/google-launches-queryless-search-guns-stumbleupon/
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jamiequint
2007-04-19T00:31:22
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What happened to "do no evil"?
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timg
2007-04-19T00:33:15
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More like StumbleUpon rained on Google's parade by turning down their offer.
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pg
2007-04-19T00:36:29
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I would make the language separate from the company, drawing the line perhaps at libraries specific to the company's project.
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jslogan
2007-04-19T00:37:27
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That's pretty funny :-) <p>I'd still recommend the one I did in the post. But you're cleaver. Sleep tight.
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pg
2007-04-19T00:38:02
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Corporations are controlled by people, and people get pissed.<p>Not that that explains this case.
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jslogan
2007-04-19T00:43:50
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Reach with frequency has a good opportunity to find new customers, but the lower the frequency, the less the effect. This is where many companies fail in their lead generation campaigns - they look at the campaign as a single event.
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ecuzzillo
2007-04-19T00:44:51
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Who funds juwo?
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pg
2007-04-19T00:45:06
Meeting OpenMoko
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http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/openmoko/doing-open-the-right-way.html
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pg
2007-04-19T00:46:42
Twiddla: 1000 Signups on Day One (by Not Making People Register)
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http://twiddla.blogspot.com/2007/04/1000-signups-on-day-one.html
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phony_identity
2007-04-19T00:49:11
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Evil?
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mattculbreth
2007-04-19T00:50:22
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Hey great article dude. Really enjoyed it.
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bootload
2007-04-19T00:50:57
What are your tools of choice?
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zaidf
2007-04-19T00:51:44
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It is actually cool to do a startup following a burst in some ways. I remember early days of my uncle's start-up in 2001 and there was little pressure of making something to sell off in a year or two. You knew if you did a start-up it was either for the long haul or you don't do one. That is an important lesson for hacker entrepreneurs today: just because you CAN launch another idea technically you shouldn't if you already have something promising going on.<p>Plus it made for nice media stories to "survive" the bubble.<p>I forgot to mention the current salary is 2-3x what was being demanded back in '01-02 in India.
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bootload
2007-04-19T01:02:44
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If you could freely choose your tools for your projects, <i>"what tools (software, maybe hardware) would you use?"</i> [0], [1] The obvious answers are <i>'the language I'm most proficient in'</i> or <i>'the language that gives me the most leverage'</i>, what's yours?<p><p>Reference <p>[0] I ask this question to myself every once and a while and I was prompted again listening to "Great Hackers". <p>[1] ITConversations, pg, "Great Hackers, mp3 31m, 11 mb"<p><a href="http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail188.html">http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail188.html</a>
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rms
2007-04-19T01:06:55
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want... to... troll... about... religion...
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zaidf
2007-04-19T01:11:26
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Usually sure. But how many times have you heard a corporation fighting for an acquisition with another corporation and then announce a similar function hours after losing the acquisition battle? <p>Point is the thing google has implemented isn't even close to StumbleUpon. But due to the timing it is getting labeled as that so it makes even more sense that Google might be trying to make a statement here rather than a stumbleupon killer. Of course it could be doing both but it has already done the former.
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rms
2007-04-19T01:12:35
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I don't like the circular design, it makes the phone seem bigger than it is. The $350 price tag without service contract is pretty good, though.<p>OpenMoko dimensions: 120.7 x 62 x 18.5 mm | iPhone dimensions: 115mm (L) x 61mm (W) x 11.6mm (T)
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aston
2007-04-19T01:13:20
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Hence why I ceded that they might buy greatness. They also made an acquisition in this space...
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lupin_sansei
2007-04-19T01:27:38
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"Om Malik says this is Google lashing out at StumbleUpon and eBay because they lost the deal. Given the timing, I tend to agree."<p>Puh-lease.
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