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[Date] 40 weeks 5 days ago [Title] Negatory, sir. Pitt's OLine [Body]
Negatory, sir. Pitt's OLine was also stripped of talent and experience when Chryst took over, and its last two recruiting classes were decimated by no less than three coaching changes. Chryst essentially inherited a program on the brink and cobbled together some success. I wrote a longer post about this further below.
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[Date] 40 weeks 5 days ago [Title] Some Context on Chryst [Body]
I talked about Todd Graham to add a "boots on the ground" context, so I might as well chime in on the subject of Chryst. While Chryst hasn't had a lot of success at Pitt on paper, there are some things that should be noted. First, most importantly, don't underestimate what a trainwreck Pitt was when he took the helm. The Panthers managed to burn through three head coaches in two years, not counting interim head coaches, complete with two scandals. Two successive recruiting classes fell apart, and they went from pro to spread to pro in three successive seasons. They had much the same problems with youth and depth on their lines, and an underwhelming picture at QB. Chryst exacerbated this by running a clean ship and getting rid of problematic student athletes, like 5* Rushel Shell, further limiting his talent pool. Chryst is a first time HC, and the warts are there. Particularly, his cloack management has been poor, and some rushed decisions at critical times are noted; that could be the result of inexperience, but it alsio seems to be a running theme with pro-style coaches. That said, Chryst has shown some real upside, and I've often used it to highlight Hoke's flaws. He recruits well, he's been getting some big name kids to stay home, and whateeeever else you want to say, Chryst can identify and develop talent. He saw Tyler Boyd, whose third to choice after Pitt and WVU was Michigan State pretty much by default, and saw talent; Michigan can't offer everyone, obviously, but Pitt fans were aware of what a talent this kid was supposed to be and what a big target he was for them, and he wasn't on Michigan's radar. Sure enough, he'll probably be in the pros after next year. More notable, I think, is James Connor. Connor was a non-descript, 3* DE in his last year of HS. He committed to Pitt, and suddenly it was declared they wanted him to be a running back. Pitt fans shrugged. Yet Connor became, from his first year, a better RB than Michigan has had since Mike Hart, and with an equally talent and experience-denuded OL. I look at him with some whimsy as he does all the things I know RBs are supposed to do, like break tackles, burst through holes and drag piles, make yards after contact. Michigan wouldn't have recruited Connor anyway, because the kid had grade problems in HS, but that's not really the issue. Chryst looked at a no-name DE and saw potential, and then quickly realized that potential into performance, which are skills Hoke has lacked. He can develop QB talent too, for what it's worth. He got Savage drafted, and that was not seen as a likely feat when he took over. People in Pittsburgh see his work with Savage as a continuation of what he did with Russell Wilson. Boyd, Savage and Connor are anecodtal examples, I know, but I hold them out as examples of what Chryst does right. He took a program that was worse off than I think anyone unfamiliar with the program realizes, and has largely stabalized it. I tend to think given two more years the Panthers will be doing well enough that Chryst will be a much hotter commodity, which is, all-in-all, not a bad trajectory for a first HC job. At Michigan? Well, he's obviously a gamble, but I think there are riskier gambles out there that are being talked about. I think more highly of the job he's done at Pitt in three years than the job Hoke has done here in four, especially given the disparity of experience, resources and prestige.
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[Date] 41 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] I don't disagree in any [Body]
I don't disagree in any particular. I think, though, that the difference between Graham and the other coaches you listed is slightly more than an issue of bad etiquette in the manner of his departure. That is to say, nobody blames a coach for moving up the ladder as a buisness decision (or at least, not too loud or for too long). I think the difference is, it's expected a coach on the rise leaves the program in better condition than when he inherited it. Most of the coaches you listed remained for multiple years, or in Brian Kelly's case, which is illuminating, for three, which is ample time to make your bones and to improve the school's situation for the next guy. The difference between one year and three can be dramatic, but I'm not trying to make that case, per se. Obviously Rice was better off, in a sense, than when he first came there. Pitt, on the other hand, actually suffered from his year-long tenure. And that, I think, is more the issue. I think I made the comparison to Chryst, somewhere in all this, who had the opportunity to leave and did not. At a minimu, whether it was the focus of his decision or not, he had to be aware that if HE left after a year, he would be the fourth Panthers coach to depart (willingly or not) in a three year span, and a program already on the brink would probably have collapsed in a fairly definitive manner. I think the fact that he remained reflects well on him, and he has done a great deal to restore the Panthers roster and on-the-field product to, if not exactly the heights of football, then at least out of the gutter.
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[Date] 41 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] I believe he was at Tulsa [Body]
I believe he was at Tulsa longer, but he was certainly one-and-done at Rice and Pitt. His departure from Pitt was used against him in recruiting with some success at ASU, at least initially, although I assume his extending tenure and winning ways will have silenced most of that. Of course, the more he moves around, the more some of that negativity will resurface.
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[Date] 41 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] I wouldn't contest that, but [Body]
I wouldn't contest that, but as a counter argument, it is believed (at least by the locals) that Paul Chryst received inquiries about the Wisconsin job after his first year and had the opportunity to take it. With that in mind, Pitt fans were resigned, and couldn't really fault him (being a Madison local/lifer). The story has it he stayed because he understood Pitt would completely unravel if he lleft, and he felt an obligation to build up the program before he moved on and upwards. Not groundbreaking stuff, again, just context. I do think most coaches feel an obligation to stay in a program for longer than a year. I don't even think Graham was much of a cultural fit, so perhaps it was for the best. I would draw a distinction between Hoke taking a job he was clear from the onset that he always wanted and would take and Graham, though, largely for the other, oh, we'll call them flourishes.
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[Date] 41 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] I'll add this too, but just [Body]
I'll add this too, but just for context: he did face some of the same problems Rich Rod did trying to take the Panthers from a pro team to a spread team, including the tempo-fatigue we became familiar with. The pro-style linemen he inherited would wear down under the fast tempo, and their play would unravel in the latter stages of the game. Much the same with the defense, if the the offense couldn't remain on the field. Naturally, that's a self-correcting problem over time: the players become more accustomed to the tempo as time goes by, especially as new recruits selected for the system come up. It didn't make for a pretty sight over the course of one season, though, especially given how it ended.
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[Date] 41 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] He's a Texas native, who [Body]
He's a Texas native, who seems most at home coaching and recruiting in that region, so you may be right. On the other hand, never underestimate a freebooting mentality. He might come to Michigan if the price is right, and to climb the ladder of school prestige. In that regard, though, he would be a flight risk as soon as a better, or perhaps even equitable, job opened down south.
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[Date] 41 weeks 2 hours ago [Title] I was in Pittsburgh the year [Body]
I was in Pittsburgh the year Todd Graham (now known in the Steel City as "Fraud Graham") coached the Panthers and fled. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to reject the guy without delving into stereotypes of accent and religion. It wasn't just that he pulled a one-and-done in Pittsburgh, he lied to everyone, including administrators, players and recruits, along the way, and wrapped it up by leaving the AD standing on his doorstep when rumors made their way into the news and questions required answers. Then he texted the team a quicck goodbye on his way to Arizona. Once at ASU, he gave what was essentially the same speech he gave when he got to Pittsburgh, a great to do about the school being a dream job, integrity, yadda yadda. Maybe not as well known in Michigan, but go to a Pitt fansite and ask them their opinions about Graham. I guarantee you, faith and folksy mannerisms will not be in the top ten list of negative things you hear.
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[Date] 42 weeks 6 days ago [Title] Cue gifs of animals that look [Body]
Cue gifs of animals that look shocked....now!
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[Date] 42 weeks 6 days ago [Title] It's fun how you can be [Body]
It's fun how you can be anyone on the internet, isn't it? Except, as you noted, someone who can spell.
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[Date] 43 weeks 16 min ago [Title] My first thought as well. [Body]
My first thought as well.
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[Date] 43 weeks 17 min ago [Title] The eastern world, it is [Body]
The eastern world, it is exploding Violence flarin', bullets loadin' You're old enough to kill, but not for votin' You don't believe in war, but what's that gun you're totin' And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin' But you tell me Over and over and over again, my friend Ah, you don't believe We're on the eve of destruction. Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say Can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today? If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away There'll be no one to save, with the world in a grave [Take a look around ya boy, it's bound to scare ya boy] And you tell me Over and over and over again, my friend Ah, you don't believe We're on the eve of destruction. Yeah, my blood's so mad feels like coagulatin' I'm sitting here just contemplatin' I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation. Handful of senators don't pass legislation And marches alone can't bring integration When human respect is disintegratin' This whole crazy world is just too frustratin' And you tell me Over and over and over again, my friend Ah, you don't believe We're on the eve of destruction. Think of all the hate there is in Red China Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama You may leave here for 4 days in space But when you return, it's the same old place The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace Hate your next-door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace And, tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend You don't believe We're on the eve Of destruction Mm, no no, you don't believe We're on the eve of destruction.
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[Date] 1 year 40 weeks ago [Title] Sugar Bowl and the '99-'00 [Body]
Sugar Bowl and the '99-'00 Orange Bowl (Hail Brady!). So there's two off the top of my head...
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[Date] 1 year 42 weeks ago [Title] Being a true freshman QB is a [Body]
Being a true freshman QB is a lot less of aproblem when you are A.) An elite talent, B.) throwing to an elite WR, and C.) Facing a team with no pass rush. Right now that's check, check and check. Which in not to say that we WILL need him at PSU, but on the road, in a very hostile environment, we may. But your statement was broader than that, and if you don't think we'll need him against MSU, or maybe even to generate some pass rush against pass-happy Indiana, I don't know what to say.
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[Date] 1 year 42 weeks ago [Title] That's, like, your opinion, [Body]
That's, like, your opinion, man.
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[Date] 1 year 42 weeks ago [Title] It's purely anecdotal, so [Body]
It's purely anecdotal, so take it for what it's worth, but in a similar situation I've seen a similar move produce positive results. In Wannestedt's last year, the O-Line was thin, the center an undersized JUCO. The Panther's got off to a woeful start, couldn't move the ball against lowly New Hampshire, got trampled and embarassed on national TV by Miami. They reshufled the O-Line and had a substantial increase in tehri play. They wound up with a respectable(ish) 8-5 record, which they likely would not have had if they stuck to the original configuration for consistency sake. As I said, it's anecdotal, but it impressed upon me that O-Line, like everything else, must be subject to change, and that change may potentially yield positive results.
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[Date] 1 year 42 weeks ago [Title] Welcome to the family. You [Body]
Welcome to the family. You will not regret your choice.
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[Date] 2 years 1 week ago [Title] It's actually a surprisingly [Body]
It's actually a surprisingly well written story. Now, the key is it may not be a very entertaining story. But the underlying metaphor is very well crafted. In an age of movies without any form of plot or structure, I appreciate the competence of the storytelling as much as the homesickness inducing tour of A2.
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[Date] 2 years 2 weeks ago [Title] Surely you can't be serious? [Body]
Surely you can't be serious?
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[Date] 2 years 3 weeks ago [Title] That's what I figure. Depth [Body]
That's what I figure. Depth chart going forward has to look mighty appetizing to players who want playing time, on top of the usual assets PSU has. Silver linings. I'd also say, it's reasonably encouraging to see so many NJ and MD athletes scatering across the Big Ten. To the degree that we expanded to improve our footprint in recruiting areas, that seems to be paying off some returns.
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[Date] 2 years 3 weeks ago [Title] Also forgot G: "Bunk" [Body]
Also forgot G: "Bunk" Westmoreland: Built low to the ground, good with leverage. His motto is "to protect and serve" his QB. Possible drinking problem.
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[Date] 2 years 3 weeks ago [Title] I've always thought of [Body]
I've always thought of Barksdale as a Pro-style QB: real gunslinger, prefers to stay in pocket. But I hear he might have a real challenge this season holding of unheralded recruit, Marlow Stanfield.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Please believe me when I tell [Body]
Please believe me when I tell you, just because an academic institution is accredited, that doesn't make it a fully functional academic institution. LOTS of schools in LOTS of fields have been accredited contrary to the common good of all mankind.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] You know, to the downvoters: [Body]
You know, to the downvoters: that was a legitimate comment. If his offer holds true, with Watson's committment, this could be his last chance to commit, if he's worried about another DB taking his place. So...in the same manner as O-Linemen dropping earlier than they expected because their potential places started filling up: maybe it's Westphal.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Maybe Westphal? [Body]
Maybe Westphal?
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] It is indeed great to be a [Body]
It is indeed great to be a Michigan Wolverine.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Spurs. Liked them since David [Body]
Spurs. Liked them since David Robinson. And they're not the Pistons.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Oregon and Nike have had a [Body]
Oregon and Nike have had a quid-pro-quo relationship for years. Orgegon gets all the trashy uniforms they want, and Nike gets a professional football team.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Is that....is the bear?...is [Body]
Is that....is the bear?...is the guy?...seems like more of a game warden thing, to me...
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Well then I hope you have a [Body]
Well then I hope you have a flexible definition of "soon."
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Grimm committed to Pitt about [Body]
Grimm committed to Pitt about aweek ago.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] Largely well said. This is [Body]
Largely well said. This is essentially the same schedule that got us to the Sugar Bowl, but with what seems to be a more talented team. To me, 8-4 would be a pretty substantial let down. I would imagine we split the ND and OSU games, and likely a split on the MSU and Northwestern road games. The possibility of a loss to one of Nebraska or Penn State is real enough as well. But generally, I think the firepower is there to win 9 or 10 games, barring unforseen exigency.
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] WOOOOOOO! [Body]
WOOOOOOO!
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[Date] 2 years 4 weeks ago [Title] You snooze, you lose Runyan! [Body]
You snooze, you lose Runyan!
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] It's not really fair to cast [Body]
It's not really fair to cast it as "underperforming." He's only going to be a true sophmore, and the common assumption going in was that he would need a redshirt year to work on technique, if not size (which as it turned out, he needed as well). I think the fact that you hear so much about Bolden and Ross is because of their talent (especially with Ross) and depth issues.
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] I think we could well use [Body]
I think we could well use another WILL. Some think Gedeon will wind up at MIKE, which, if true, doesn't really leave that much behind Ross, who may well be a three year man based on his potential. RJS is his backup now, and Gedeon could be a WILL, but if you remove Gedeon it gets thin fast.
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] We're also keeping a close [Body]
We're also keeping a close eye on Dru Tranquill, for what it's worth. Hasn't been offered yet, but has exploded in camps and may well get one.
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] I truly am weary beyond [Body]
I truly am weary beyond imagining of the "They Have Hotter Women" meme that seems to come up whenever we're talking about schools from the SEC. Honestly, I suppose now that Mizzou is part of the SEC, their women have been promoted to goddess status as well. In my years at Michigan, I never once thought to myself "Why, why oh Lord, why did I go to a school populated by a race of savage turtle-women?" You know what I remember? Attractive women. And I wasn't even a football star. Then someone will bring up parkas, as if UofM girls walk around completely obscured like Kenny from South Park; as if they wore parkas in class and in the bedroom; as if it doesn't get cold in Lexington KY (it does). Honestly. Women don't become more attractive because they live south of the Mason Dixon Line.
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] I don't mind that the players [Body]
I don't mind that the players are, in essence, not Scott and Westphal...I refuse to second guess the coaches on talent. The nature of the school worries me more than a little...normally I assume the coaches would be on top o ofttha sort of thing, but IO have no idea how it works when the offer comes abruptly at camp like this.
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] Well, that sounds unsavory... [Body]
Well, that sounds unsavory...
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[Date] 2 years 5 weeks ago [Title] Justim HILard yesterday, 2014 [Body]
Justim HILard yesterday, 2014 WR Freddy Canteen today, along with a CB teammate of Canteen (also today).
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] Oh, no doubt! (Actually- a [Body]
Oh, no doubt! (Actually- a fop. Dandyism was a later fashion wave created by Beau Brummel which was meant to get the effeminiate nature of fop-ism at a distance that men could still be fashionable). BUT- either way, I wouldn't care how much many pinches snuff my QB wanted to snort, how perfumed his handkerchief was, or how high pitched his laugh is....if he could summarily murder a guy with a few whispy waves of his sword. At least, I wouldn't laugh too loud.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] To be fair, that guy was [Body]
To be fair, that guy was pretty lethal. That was the point. He was a "crouching tiger hidden badass" trope.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] Uhhhh.uhhhhhhhh...g.! Oh, [Body]
Uhhhh.uhhhhhhhh...g.! Oh, dammit, I'm so bad at this!
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] To be fair, last year we were [Body]
To be fair, last year we were crowing about how OSU was going to be locked out on LBs because they waited too long/couldn't flip Gedeon and McCRay, and whiffed on all of their top targets. And that ended pretty well for them. Urby closes late, can usually flip late-risers who committed early to lesser programs and work his mojo on top recruits who wait forever. That's just how he does it. I grant you, I don't know how that will play with QB recruiting, given the nature of that particular beast- QBs, elite or otherwise, don't tend to be hanging around late in the process, or as likely to flip as any other position.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] I mean, statistics don't [Body]
I mean, statistics don't always tell the tale. The idea of UConn's defensive quality, based on points per game, really should be filtered through a quality of opposition caveat. Playing in the Big East with a soft non-conference schedule is going to skew things wildly. I mean, that takes into account a shutout of UMass, which is still functionally an FCS team, and the normal squad of hapless Big East punching bags like South Florida and Temple.And I'll give you the fact that they held Louisville to an abusrdly low score (maybe Bridgewater was injured that day?) and did well against Rutgers (who were very up and down with Nova), but they also gave up 40 points to Nassib and Syracuse and 34 to Cinnci, and even 30 to Western Michigan....and after losing five starters, including several NFL draft picks, you think Gardner and Co. can't put up gaudier numbers than 14 points? I just don't see it.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] ...I really can't see the [Body]
...I really can't see the logic behind the 14-6 projection. Truthfully, one does notice that Borges is more conservative on the road. Part of that might be because he didn't trust Denard's arm. Factually, Borges let Gardner air it out against Minny and South Carolina. If you want to say Minny was just that bad...well...UConn isn't THAT much better. It's not really enough to say their linemen are big and their Mike is elite. BC had Luke Kuechly, after all, that was never enough.Really, a 14-6 prediction for an away game is almost projecting a tossup. All it would take is one careless pick-6 or the like, and the game is in the air.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] You really think Oklahoma is [Body]
You really think Oklahoma is so much more distant than Virginia?
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] Maybe for your birthday, [Body]
Maybe for your birthday, Champ.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] Agreed. Thomas, if he's as [Body]
Agreed. Thomas, if he's as advertised, you want on the field for every down. Nickel is supposed to be an easy to ease-into position, perfect for athletic, talented freshmen to get their feet wet. Let Thomas hand it off to Peppers, and so on down the line.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] For the record, I'm aware of [Body]
For the record, I'm aware of that: I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm not saying the sky is falling, I'm not saying he's going to Bama. I simply thought this was of note. It simply seemed like an anomoly, six predictions that way in the last hour. It WAS the sort of strange, en masse shift that preceded Chase to Michigan. People can take it entirely for what it's worth.
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[Date] 2 years 6 weeks ago [Title] And on that note, though not [Body]
And on that note, though not on the same topic, DeShone Kizer (2014 QB from Toledo) just committed to ND.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] I like those five picks as a [Body]
I like those five picks as a starting point for 2015. Now if only they'd stop dithering and drop the hammer! HOKE CAN'T CLOSE! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Any real program would want [Body]
Any real program would want to bring in a talented QB every year, but PSU has even more reason to want to do so. They've been wobbly at QB for what seems forever now, with Mat McGloin, a walk on, being their best option (an gone). Not only is the QB situation totally unsettled now, but they're thin there as well. If Hackenberg goes bust (always a possibility) or gets injured, they're in a world of hurt. Which is not to say that I disagree with you about the lack of line recruiting. Then again, the Pats have been neglecting their OLine for a while, and Brady has been paying the price for that, do maybe O'Brien has a little of the spread nd shred fever, where you think of offense in terms of skill position players and not the guys up front.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] As has often been pointed [Body]
As has often been pointed out, he is not a Florida kid, he just moved there (by way of TN, even) to get requalified. He is from the great frozen north. And it may be the kid just isn't that good, obviously the staff wanted Speight more than they wanted him. It IS possible, I imagine, that his reclassifying for 2014 instead of 2015 may have had something to do with it. Maybe coaches wanted to watch him throughout a year against better opposition than he faced up in Canada, and that prevented him from giving them that chance? That's pure speculation, so take it for what it's worth.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Mmmmm, point of parlimentary [Body]
Mmmmm, point of parlimentary procedure, sir, your complaint concerning complaints is invalid unless seconded from the floor, and supported by a quorum of MPs no less than 2/3's in number, and not containing any Welshmen (save those who fought under Chelmsford East of Suez, of course). Mmm, yes, bully.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Nobody's guaranteed playing [Body]
Nobody's guaranteed playing time. He's not transferring anywhere just because he won't be a three year starter, guaranteed.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Carlisle isn't worth [Body]
Carlisle isn't worth mentioning.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Vlad Emilien, in particular, [Body]
Vlad Emilien, in particular, suffered a debilitating injury which he never fully recovered from. He said one of the reasons Michigan got him was the fact that they persisted when other schools were backing away from their offers. But it didn't pan out. Also: insert list of kids with elite offer sheets who have worked out HERE. Longer list, isn't it?
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] HEY! We don't recruit like [Body]
HEY! We don't recruit like that at Michigan. That's SEC stuff!!! ...especilly in TN....mmmmm...dry rub...
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] My problem with #2 is that [Body]
My problem with #2 is that people are flipping the script. Their talking about the propriety )class) of the actions of a teenage kid, who is simply recounting an anecdote he found amusing from his life, about a grown man pursuing him against his wishes. It's his story, it's his to tell. There was actually no judgment about Meyer or his wuality as a human being, just that he had a funny look on his head. But here you have people weighing in on the quality of his actions, criticizing (and disparaging) someone for his perceived criticism of someone else. THAT would, by the definition of the criticism, be classless in and of itself. It was classy of Hand to hide the identity of the coach who made the weird Michael Jackson gaffe. But that reflects well on him, he's under no obligation to do so. Telling an anecdote about a pushy coach, or judging a kid's actions from a distant remove: which is more classless?
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Why should McDermott care if [Body]
Why should McDermott care if Meyer's reputation suffers? He doesn't owe him anything. In fact, if a rival power house program's coach's reputation suffers, in a way that's a good thing. If it happened, he can say whatever he wants. These coaches are flying all over the country trying to attract recruits to their programs. I think it behooves recruits to remember they are but mortal, but all he did here was recount the events of an anecdote as he saw them. He didn't slander the man in any way.He doesn't owe Meyer any more, especially not while the man tries to tempt him into his gingerbread house.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Come on now, brother. It's [Body]
Come on now, brother. It's been a long night and my English has gone a little south of Wuthering Heights. I'm still above Fifty Shades of Grey, that's all that should be asked of me.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] There's at least six [Body]
There's at least six Michigan commits from Ohio who've talked about Urban showing up to recruit them, after they've made it clear they're solid. So you really think he wouldn't put in the effort in THIS case?
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] It's also totally in keeping [Body]
It's also totally in keeping with Meyer's track record. Since year one, he's poached recruits from others, shown up to recruit kids already committed to Michigan. To him, no means maybe. Now, you can say that's good recruiting, because some time it pays off. But if someone I told not to bothered showed up face to face? I feel I'd have the right to tell him a firm no. In any other context, Meyer's conduct would be stalking.
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[Date] 2 years 7 weeks ago [Title] Campbell would be a [Body]
Campbell would be a problem for Ways, not the other way around, and as noted, Scott projects more to the slot position.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] That's all true, top to [Body]
That's all true, top to bottom. I think playing at Heinz Field is a double edged sword. It does keep the fan numbers low, especially in the bad times. Pain in the ass to get there. BUT, more so than other college teams playing in pro-stadiums, I think there is an upshot for Pitt. Unlike most teams, which are just leasing the field, Pitt has a strong working relationship with the Rooney family. The Panthers don't just play in the stadium, they use the same facilities on the South Side of the city. They LITERALLY spend their college careers under the noses of the Steelers staff. That gets some extra pro attention, and since what one pro staff knows generally becomes common knowledge to scouts, that's led to a lot of extra attention to Pitt players. Not a far stretch to imagine that's why so many of them have placed so well. The Big East, I think, is what's held them back more than anything. Their downturn really was tied to the creation of that poor doomed conference.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Sure. Pitt had a ranked team [Body]
Sure. Pitt had a ranked team and a ranked recruiting class going into RichRod's last year, when Michigan was buried in problems. SO things never change in this game. Of course the geography, quality of education and pro potential arguments concerning Pitt haven't changed either. So I suppose most football recuits don't make decisions based on your expectations of the future. Strange...
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Yes. Yes he has. [Body]
Yes. Yes he has.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] On the stability logic, no [Body]
On the stability logic, no one would have committed to Brady Hoke before his first season. A lot depends on the faith a coach can instill in recruits with regards to bis vision of the future. Hoke did it. Chryst has had considerable success in recruiting Western PA already: Off the top of my head, Orndoff and Holtz both had Michigan offers but chose to stay home and play for Pitt, as did Dorian Johnson. I add, parenthetically, that Pitt's profile as a university is essentially the same as those of Big Ten schools...in fact, it would rank ahead of most Big Ten universities in school rankings (or it did as of a year or two ago). Moreover, as to the stability, if Chryst didn't leave Pitt for Wisconsin, he can make a strong argument that he intends to make good his committment to Pitt.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Pitt insiders have implied [Body]
Pitt insiders have implied that his heart is with Pitt, but his mind tells him the train wreck of their program isn't going to get any better. Given his own inclinations (it is said) he'd wait and see how the next season develops, but he's afraid he'll lose his spot at Michigan or Ohio if he waits. The implication was that even he was wavering back and forth on it. That's a take it for what it's worth thing, I have no special insight beyond what Pitt people say on the matter.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Beeeecause...you're from [Body]
Beeeecause...you're from Western Pennsylvania? Because Pitt has lots of players in the pros? Because you get to play/practice/train in the same stadium and facilities as the Steelers? Because you like the city of Pittsburgh? Because they also offer a good education?
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] That's not really true. There [Body]
That's not really true. There are plenty of programs that make hay without much star power- in the Big Ten, Wisconsin and Iowa being prime examples. ANd some coaches can squander all the talent in the world because they don't know what the hell they're doing. Look at all the NFL talent Zook recruited, then see how he did on the field.
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Well, Brady is 2-0 against [Body]
Well, Brady is 2-0 against Fitzgerald...so there's that...
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[Date] 2 years 8 weeks ago [Title] Ryan is RichRod holdover. [Body]
Ryan is RichRod holdover. Kind of early to weigh in on any of the actual Hoke recruits, as most of them have yet to see much real action. Those that have and stand out are Funchess, Ross and Morgan.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] "The sneezeguard is broken! [Body]
"The sneezeguard is broken! THERE IS NO LAW!!!"
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] "Oh Danny Boy"? [Body]
"Oh Danny Boy"?
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] Golson made his first start [Body]
Golson made his first start against us. Reese's relative success against us, I posit, had more to do with the relative talent gaps between our teams, which is evening out quickly.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] And Marshall to MSU, lest we [Body]
And Marshall to MSU, lest we forget. I think we can stop thinkingof the crystal balls as reliable predictors of the natural order and think of them as what crystal bars really are...shiny props to distract people for entertainment value.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] Denard. Unique athlete, [Body]
Denard. Unique athlete, superb human being and true Michigan Man. Carried us through some dark times, gave jaw-dropping performances and he did it all with class.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] No offer for Jayru yet. Nor [Body]
No offer for Jayru yet. Nor from Ohio. He was told he should come to Michigan's camp to see how he's developed. So I guess you'd sy they're keeping an eye on him/ I think it's also safe to say he isn't their top choice by any means.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] Actually, I would think the [Body]
Actually, I would think the most famous writer of minstrel show tunes was Stephen Foster, who was from Pittsburgh and only went to the south once, for his honeymoon in Louisiana. That means the writer of "My Old Kentucky Home" never spent any real time in Kentucky. Foster is so controversil for his happy slave songs Greenfield Village in Dearborn, contrary to their normal practice, doesn't use his name to label his house. Actually, if you are ever on the University of Pittsburgh's campus, just nect to the Carnegie Museum you will see an utterly shameful statue of Foster composing, or something, sitting in an elevated position over a bald, smiling, and, I kid you not, shoeless african american playing the banjo.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] I have to say, that does not [Body]
I have to say, that does not in any way endear the tune to me more. I mean, it does make sense though. The first line is 'I wish I was in the land of cotton," which I guess implies that you aren't at the time.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] There are hot women [Body]
There are hot women everywhere. And we all know we'll be fine without him. None of that changes the fallacious reasoning of your original post. Painting Ole Miss as some kind of valiant underdog who seems to be doing things on the up and up is incredulous at best. So sure. They have hot women. I'm sure that reasonably overrides the pictures of money he tweeted. Nothing to see here, move along. Also utterly unconvincing: your hypothesis that we won't recruit against them regularly. The better they do, the more we'll bump heads. Auburn had one good year and suddenly we were engaged in, and losing, multiple recruiting battles with them. Why should Ole Miss and their head coach be any different, except, apparently, because you say so? Also ALSO I don't need to know they are dirty to dislike them. The Rebels they named themselves after aren't the Rebel Alliance. I'm offended every time they score a touchdown and Dixie starts playing, so no, even if you WERE right, I still have every reason not to root for them over LSU and Alabama.
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[Date] 2 years 9 weeks ago [Title] Pull up a chair and I'll tell [Body]
Pull up a chair and I'll tell you the story of a lad named Treadwell and his tweeted pictures of piles of cash, my friend...
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Go get 'em, girls. [Body]
Go get 'em, girls.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Where's the fish coming from? [Body]
Where's the fish coming from? Kyle Trout committed to OSU.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Peppers- It does make me feel [Body]
Peppers- It does make me feel nervous that he suddenly has a Rutgers crystal ball prediction on 247.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] It is a "product," it's what [Body]
It is a "product," it's what we're paying for. And you CAN pay to go them all, you just have to pay for transit. I come from Pennsylvania to do just that. Is it worth it? For you, apparently not. Maybe that's because it's so expensive. Parenthetically, nobody cares about what you would do in an alternate universe where you could go to all the games. It is not relevant to the issue. Parenthetically, some of us may equally be worried about the fact that the team has to wade through a killers row of a shcedule every other year rather than simply having a balanced schedule every year, which would probably be better for the team, aside from being more enjoyable to the fans.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Sure. Because we get them for [Body]
Sure. Because we get them for free. So the quality of the product doesn't matter.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] How does Brandon keep letting [Body]
How does Brandon keep letting this happen? Does he get payoffs for setting up butcher seasons every other year? WTF?
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Just becaue Rutgers is (going [Body]
Just becaue Rutgers is (going to be) in the Big Ten does not make it part of the Big Ten footprint for recruiting purposes. We do not have deep roots there, we have not had much success recruiting there. It is an eastern state, He is referring to the Midwest, which is where most of our recruiting traditionally happens, and where Hoke's predominant success has occurred. Getting top talent from Utah, Florida and New Jersey are firsts for Hoke here.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] At minimum, I'd say there's [Body]
At minimum, I'd say there's nothing "cautious" about that optimism.
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[Date] 2 years 10 weeks ago [Title] Sensory deprivation chamber. [Body]
Sensory deprivation chamber. Only safe course.
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[Date] 2 years 11 weeks ago [Title] You make us proud, Mr. Smith. [Body]
You make us proud, Mr. Smith.
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[Date] 2 years 11 weeks ago [Title] A good and worthy man, and a [Body]
A good and worthy man, and a credit to his Alma Mater.
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[Date] 2 years 11 weeks ago [Title] I see a distinction. OL [Body]
I see a distinction. OL requires both numbers and time to cultivate, along with the highest rate of error in determining talent. QBs also generally need time to develope, and that situation has been admittedly mishandled, but the policy of taking no more than one a year, to make it obvious who the leader is, is a part of that. We can, and have, taken more than one RB most years. RBs are also the position most likely to walk on to the field and have an immediate impact. It is logical to take one every year, but in our situation- lots of numbers, small incoming class, many talented recruits at other positions interested- I don't see it without the talent. We don't need bodies at RB, we need skill. Because if some combination of Rawls/Johnson/Norfleet/Hayes/Shallman can't carry some of the load for the Green and Smith, adding more comprable huys isn't going to help. That's simply the outlook for the immediate future.
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[Date] 2 years 11 weeks ago [Title] Without arguing the logic of [Body]
Without arguing the logic of your conclusion, you're looking three years into the future (after Green leaves) while assuming NO addition of RBs after this year. I don't think th lack of a RB in this class will lead to an apocalyptic "obly Smith, Johnson and Noefleet" scenario, especially with two very probable (and seemingly talented) RB options that could be called Michigan leans in the 2015 class.
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[Date] 2 years 12 weeks ago [Title] Typically, they do not. Not [Body]
Typically, they do not. Not anymore, that is, they used to. Their physical and academic standards rule out a great many players, especially linemen. They usually look at a class of players who fit into their triple option system, which allows them to get a different breed of athlete, often overlooked by other schools, who are interested in serving their country. That's why the Armed Forces Academies allrun the same system: Navy proved they could make hay with it in their unique situation. The obvious caveat is that some of these recruits do have offers from higher schools, and simply make life decisions.
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[Date] 2 years 12 weeks ago [Title] Good for the lassies/ Go [Body]
Good for the lassies/ Go Blue!
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