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BrandonM
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Hacker news or Y Combinator news
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7media
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I assume the author thinks it's been hacked?
| null | 0 | 2 |
2007-08-20 14:10:45 UTC
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44,299 | 44,294 |
aston
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Banner Blindness: Old and New Findings
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brlewis
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This information is pretty unsurprising. That said, I think Nielson is discounting to some degree the effect of good typography/page layout in this discussion. Pages that are designed well will focus the attention of the audience on the content being delivered. Note that the users also aren't looking at other things that seem to be accessory, like the navigation panes. In the end, though, that's just another argument to try to blend ads into the content area of the site, ethical or not.
| null | 3 | 25 |
2007-08-20 14:12:46 UTC
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44,304 | 43,426 |
david927
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How To Make a Funny Talk Title Without Using The Word "Weasel"
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fad
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I've always read and enjoyed Steve's posts, but here he comes off smug (despite the self-depricating jokes) as if he's summoning enlightment for the audience, when the talk is simply obtuse. Is a trademark necessary? Hardly. You can call something 'free' and yet try to charge for it. No one needs to trademark the word 'free' to protect it. In the same way, if some companies are using the 'open source' moniker without releasing their source, it will become quickly evident to the customer.Could there be a certification based on a set of standards? Sure. What that would look like is a great topic. But simply a lecture on basic marketing concepts is embarrassing and I think when Steve looks back on this video, it will be with a wince. (In his defence, I'm glad no one has had a camera around during any one of my numerous embarrassments.
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he's blagging about branding this timehas a link to a video with his speech at OSCOM at the end
| 1 | 27 |
2007-08-20 14:33:48 UTC
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amichail
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Can we predict the future using a temporal version of the Copernican principle? [pdf]
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amichail
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Here's the New Yorker article mentioned in the paper:http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1999/07/12/1999_07_12_035_T...
| null | 1 | 6 |
2007-08-20 14:52:14 UTC
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44,309 | 44,199 |
mlibbrecht
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How much is News.YC worth?
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blored
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The value of news.yc is the input of pg and the other moderators. Without them, news.yc is just another reddit.
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If someone wanted to sell a site with a similar user and traffic numbers, in your opinion, what would be the present worth in 2007 dollars, 2002 dollars, and possibly 1999 dollars for a site like news.ycombinator.com.
| 6 | 10 |
2007-08-20 14:59:51 UTC
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44,315 | 44,137 |
SKUM
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Anywhere.fm = 1.4 Millions songs uploaded.
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rokhayakebe
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seeqpod makes more since to me.
http://www.seeqpod.com
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O boy. Steve Jobs, I really recommend you call these guys up and start talking price. Seriously if I had a spare million bucks I would do anything to buy a piece of this *up.
| 10 | 25 |
2007-08-20 15:21:58 UTC
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44,323 | 44,286 |
mattculbreth
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Windows Users Caused Skype Outage
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transburgh
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They aren't prepared for Windows updates? That doesn't sound right at all. Frankly they need to own up to the error and stop blaming others.
| null | 0 | 12 |
2007-08-20 15:46:17 UTC
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44,327 | 44,026 |
joe
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Where can I find a good designer?
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redrory
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Let me recommend a friend of mine: http://phillipridlen.com/
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Heya Guys,
I am planning to re-do my site, as I am looking to upgrade from my free template look.
Any suggestions,
Thanks much
| 6 | 13 |
2007-08-20 15:50:03 UTC
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44,329 | 44,286 |
rokhayakebe
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Windows Users Caused Skype Outage
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transburgh
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yeah right!
| null | 2 | 12 |
2007-08-20 15:58:32 UTC
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44,332 | 44,326 |
jsjenkins168
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Django running on the iPhone, introspecting the phone's sqlite call records
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nickb
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Any details on how this was accomplished?
| null | 2 | 8 |
2007-08-20 16:07:06 UTC
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44,335 | 44,289 |
edw519
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The end of ERP?
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davidw
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Sounds like someone is confusing "ERP" (Enterprise Resource Planning) applications, which are successfully running millions of businesses with "ERP", the gargantuan garbage thrust upon fortune 500 companies by SAP, Oracle, and other bandits. The end of the first "ERP" (accounting, inventory, sales, marketing,...)? Hardly. The end of the second "ERP"? It's inevitable. Clearly, Web 2.0 is the next generation for many types of applications, including business. This is an argument in semantics. Nothing new here. Move along.
| null | 1 | 11 |
2007-08-20 16:20:26 UTC
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44,337 | 44,333 |
piers
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Anybody here know a good DNS service provider?
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jamongkad
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You mentioned GoDaddy, but do you mean provider or registrar? If the latter, try OpenDNS - www.opendns.com (at least I think that's the address; I'm on my phone so can only have one window open at a time)
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Hi guys do any of you know of a good DNS service provider? Aside from GoDaddy.com are there any alternatives? recommendations please thanks.edit
Whoops sorry I meant domain name registrar.
| 1 | 1 |
2007-08-20 16:26:55 UTC
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44,341 | 44,333 |
davidw
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Anybody here know a good DNS service provider?
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jamongkad
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I use everydns.net - it's free.If you mean registrar, I went through google. $10 gets you a .com, plus their web apps for the domain you register, which is a pretty good deal.
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Hi guys do any of you know of a good DNS service provider? Aside from GoDaddy.com are there any alternatives? recommendations please thanks.edit
Whoops sorry I meant domain name registrar.
| 2 | 1 |
2007-08-20 16:35:09 UTC
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44,342 | 44,333 |
dfranke
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Anybody here know a good DNS service provider?
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jamongkad
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I'm not clear on whether you mean recursive DNS servers, a DNS registrar, or a BIND host. Regardless: OpenDNS, Register4Less, and DynDNS's Custom DNS service, respectively.
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Hi guys do any of you know of a good DNS service provider? Aside from GoDaddy.com are there any alternatives? recommendations please thanks.edit
Whoops sorry I meant domain name registrar.
| 3 | 1 |
2007-08-20 16:35:15 UTC
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44,345 | 44,137 |
jwinter
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Anywhere.fm = 1.4 Millions songs uploaded.
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rokhayakebe
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Do users pay for space? Will it be ad-supported?
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O boy. Steve Jobs, I really recommend you call these guys up and start talking price. Seriously if I had a spare million bucks I would do anything to buy a piece of this *up.
| 8 | 25 |
2007-08-20 16:45:50 UTC
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44,346 | 44,259 |
aswanson
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What should be considered off-topic?
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rms
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Anything gaming related (Playstation, Xbox etc.). Doing a gaming startup? Fine, post. Found some crack codes or new screen shots, karma should be put under assault by everyone.
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Many have said that we need more explicit guidelines about what is off-topic. What do you think should be off-topic on news.ycombinator.com?
| 2 | 7 |
2007-08-20 16:46:30 UTC
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44,347 | 44,137 |
ajc001
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Anywhere.fm = 1.4 Millions songs uploaded.
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rokhayakebe
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for itunes users who have a big music library, i find Simplify Media much easier. www.simplifymedia.com
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O boy. Steve Jobs, I really recommend you call these guys up and start talking price. Seriously if I had a spare million bucks I would do anything to buy a piece of this *up.
| 11 | 25 |
2007-08-20 16:46:43 UTC
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44,349 | 44,286 |
palish
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Windows Users Caused Skype Outage
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transburgh
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Hahahah -breath- hahahahahUltimate justice for the evil default setting "Start and connect on boot".
| null | 1 | 12 |
2007-08-20 16:47:40 UTC
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44,350 | 44,242 |
pdsull
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Carl Malamud Takes on WestLaw (Putting a complete database of US Case law in the public domain)
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toffer
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As a law student, I can attest to the fact that a great deal of Westlaw's value comes from the content they add. However, almost all of that value is derived from the texts of the cases themselves (in fact, all of it other than the search engine - which is fantastic compared to the alternatives [see findlaw.com another West product]). Westlaw provides overall synopses of cases, brief summaries of a case's points of law, and the ability to easily see any cases that cite the one you are reading (and if they do so positively or negatively).Aside from the search engine, I wonder if most of this couldn't be replicated by some sort of a wiki. Given a complete collection of the texts and enough knowledgeable, willing volunteers - could Westlaw be replicated?
| null | 0 | 6 |
2007-08-20 16:49:26 UTC
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brett
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Banner Blindness: Old and New Findings
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brlewis
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The more an ad looks like a native site component, the more users will look at itFor all his wacky buildup about the ethics of disclosing such a fact this was a pretty sorry payoff. It is exactly what I would predict from the results of such a study. For something to be insidious enough to consider not telling the public about it I would expect it to at least be both born out by empirical evidence AND counter-intuitive.
| null | 1 | 25 |
2007-08-20 16:58:41 UTC
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44,366 | 44,330 |
alex_c
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Just launched my new site: webmapp.com
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webmapp
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I can't find any content in my area (Toronto).The site also feels too slow to use regularly.But first and foremost, a simple sentence explaining the purpose of the website would do wonders for usability.
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social news with a local focus
| 0 | 1 |
2007-08-20 17:23:32 UTC
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44,367 | 44,365 |
myoung8
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Living near Si Valley but with lower living expenses?
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gregwebs
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Sacramento is relatively close, but if you really want to be involved in the startup community, San Francisco is a much better choice.Sacramento is far enough away to make you think twice about attending all the cool events that happen in San Francisco and Palo Alto and Mountain View.
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I have been thinking about trying to locate to Sacremento in the hopes of being close to Silicon Valley but being able to afford to live. Are there good startup opportunities in places like these?
| 2 | 2 |
2007-08-20 17:24:14 UTC
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tocomment
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The end of ERP?
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davidw
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Site is down. Is this the first YC.news effect? Semi-related question: What do large companies use for accounting software? My day-job company seems to be outgrowing QuickBooks and I have no idea what to reccomend to them.
| null | 0 | 11 |
2007-08-20 17:25:50 UTC
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pg
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$10,000 Platform Hack off
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crxnamja
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This seems slightly fishy. How can an event that's just announced claim to have 300 people coming?
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Win $10,000 for the application that gets the most users after 24 hours.
| 0 | 8 |
2007-08-20 17:33:31 UTC
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44,374 | 44,330 |
webmapp
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Just launched my new site: webmapp.com
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webmapp
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it's a social news site with a very local focus. alex_c - all the content is user submitted and it's only been up a few hours so check back later... ?
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social news with a local focus
| 2 | 1 |
2007-08-20 17:34:43 UTC
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mds
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Scientists: Artificial life likely in 3 to 10 years
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mds
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"But them getting out and taking over, never in our imagination could this happen."That's comforting.
| null | 1 | 4 |
2007-08-20 17:34:45 UTC
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crxnamja
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$10,000 Platform Hack off
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crxnamja
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We are expecting to have around 300 people attend.
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Win $10,000 for the application that gets the most users after 24 hours.
| 1 | 8 |
2007-08-20 17:39:13 UTC
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pg
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Prediction: Newspapers will go bankrupt in 2007, unless they corner web classifieds by 1998
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vlad
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He said "many newspapers." And he is not far off. Newspaper ad revenues peaked in 2000.http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2007/narrative_newspapers...The surprising thing to me is that they have any classified ad revenue left. This suggests there are still opportunities for startups to take more away from them.
| null | 0 | 8 |
2007-08-20 17:42:11 UTC
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donna
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Living near Si Valley but with lower living expenses?
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gregwebs
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You may want to consider finding a location near public transportation; e.g. Pittburg near the BART. That way you can live outside SF affordably but BART into events; http://bart.gov/stations/map/systemMap.asp
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I have been thinking about trying to locate to Sacremento in the hopes of being close to Silicon Valley but being able to afford to live. Are there good startup opportunities in places like these?
| 1 | 2 |
2007-08-20 17:45:51 UTC
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44,380 | 44,294 |
webwright
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Banner Blindness: Old and New Findings
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brlewis
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I'd be interested in hearing trends about text-ad blindness. I know I look at and click adwords ads (and adsense ads) a LOT less than I did when they first came available... Especially since Google sold out their ad relevancy and allowed wildcard purchases or unrelated purchases (like ebay showing up on virtually every search with a "find SearchQuery and More at Ebay!!1!!1!"
| null | 0 | 25 |
2007-08-20 17:46:50 UTC
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brlewis
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Prediction: Newspapers will go bankrupt in 2007, unless they corner web classifieds by 1998
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vlad
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In 2000, Google changed the premise behind this prediction, that advertising generally doesn't work on the Web.The bigger problem with his prediction is that newspaper companies rarely go bankrupt. They get acquired.He was right on the money that newspapers had a small window to keep hold of classified advertising. They missed that window; craigslist and ebay took over.Also, he was right that newspaper companies are generally hurting in 2007.http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/departments/business...
| null | 1 | 8 |
2007-08-20 17:47:10 UTC
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mark-t
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Anybody here know a good DNS service provider?
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jamongkad
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I got mine from Yahoo! Small Business a couple years ago when they had a $3/year deal. I haven't seen anything like that recently. They seem to be a good registrar; the only thing I've wanted to do that I wasn't allowed was subdomain forwarding.
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Hi guys do any of you know of a good DNS service provider? Aside from GoDaddy.com are there any alternatives? recommendations please thanks.edit
Whoops sorry I meant domain name registrar.
| 0 | 1 |
2007-08-20 18:03:31 UTC
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donna
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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i create life working with my startup
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 7 | 16 |
2007-08-20 18:05:08 UTC
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44,390 | 44,199 |
Nate
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How much is News.YC worth?
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blored
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If you want the stats for YC, you can look them up on Alexa:http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3...
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If someone wanted to sell a site with a similar user and traffic numbers, in your opinion, what would be the present worth in 2007 dollars, 2002 dollars, and possibly 1999 dollars for a site like news.ycombinator.com.
| 4 | 10 |
2007-08-20 18:07:37 UTC
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run4yourlives
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Skype: What happened on August 16
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piers
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This is going to serve as a lesson on how not to communicate a screw up to your customers in the modern age.What could have simply been, "we screwed up, we're sorry" is now going to be talked about not only in terms of the event, but the poor communication strategy.tsk tsk skype.
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<quote>receiving a routine software update</quote>Sounds like they're pointing the finger at microsoft to me.
| 3 | 17 |
2007-08-20 18:12:21 UTC
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pg
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Living near Si Valley but with lower living expenses?
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gregwebs
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There are a lot of neighborhoods in the Bay Area. They are not all expensive.
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I have been thinking about trying to locate to Sacremento in the hopes of being close to Silicon Valley but being able to afford to live. Are there good startup opportunities in places like these?
| 3 | 2 |
2007-08-20 18:14:27 UTC
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44,400 | 44,384 |
iamyoohoo
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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why the question ?
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 11 | 16 |
2007-08-20 18:27:01 UTC
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44,401 | 44,199 |
nreece
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How much is News.YC worth?
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blored
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As per dnScoop ( http://dnscoop.com/?site=www.ycombinator.com ): The estimated value of http://www.ycombinator.com is: $2,231,230This value is calculated based on several factors shown above, including: Links, Traffic (Alexa), age of the domain, site category, domain keyword popularity, and overall occurrences of the domain name on the web.
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If someone wanted to sell a site with a similar user and traffic numbers, in your opinion, what would be the present worth in 2007 dollars, 2002 dollars, and possibly 1999 dollars for a site like news.ycombinator.com.
| 5 | 10 |
2007-08-20 18:27:32 UTC
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44,402 | 44,260 |
ashu
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Skype: What happened on August 16
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piers
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i dont understand why people are giving skype such a bad time. they have been quite honest (technically) about what happened - a bug got exposed by some really really extreme workload. Also, whoever thinks that they should have "modeled" this has no idea how hard it is to develop distributed systems. It's a fine ideal to have, but in practice it is ridiculously hard to achieve. Especially as the code evolves. What you need is the same code base being able to run on a real TCP/IP stack and in a simulated environment. This looks easy in the abstract, but it's really tricky to do in practice.
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<quote>receiving a routine software update</quote>Sounds like they're pointing the finger at microsoft to me.
| 1 | 17 |
2007-08-20 18:28:41 UTC
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brlewis
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How to promote yourself and your business with confidence
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donna
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This quote from the article seems especially apropos to the web, where people judge a site quickly, and will likely never return regardless of what future improvements you make:"If one part of your company's image still needs major work, fix it before you start the promotional effort. It's said a lot because it's true: You only get one chance to make a first impression."
| null | 0 | 3 |
2007-08-20 18:34:43 UTC
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44,410 | 44,294 |
dfranke
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Banner Blindness: Old and New Findings
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brlewis
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It seems like it ought to be easy to fool the user's unconscious processes that determine fixation while still making clear at a conscious level what is and is not an ad. For example, match the color scheme and typography of ads with the rest of the site, but clearly label them as "sponsored links". While it's possible that you might annoy users this way, it would be a real stretch to call it unethical.
| null | 2 | 25 |
2007-08-20 18:45:07 UTC
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44,412 | 44,326 |
henning
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Django running on the iPhone, introspecting the phone's sqlite call records
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nickb
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Fantastic, all that nice data ready to be forwarded to the NSA for illegal "mining!"
| null | 0 | 8 |
2007-08-20 18:48:49 UTC
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44,415 | 44,384 |
rokhayakebe
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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a startup is your life buddy. Anything else you do is considered as an escape from that life. Some escapes are nice (like when you have sex or go for a walk or drink) and some suck (like when you go to your day job)
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 10 | 16 |
2007-08-20 18:59:43 UTC
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Riley
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bigger screen = higher productivity. ( for me it can what about you?)
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rokhayakebe
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I've been using a 30" (2560x1600) monitor for over a year and I'll never go back to anything smaller. I only like laptops for traveling. You do have to take into consideration the other screen sizes and resolutions when designing. But you can always approximate any config on a larger monitor.
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I have a small 13 inch screen notebook. It works fine for me. It s light enough to carry around and the battery last a good few hours. But I find that when using my 47 inch screen monitor I just enjoy working more. I haven't measured output, but I believe It is slightly more than when I use my notebook.
| 1 | 1 |
2007-08-20 19:08:15 UTC
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aston
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YC next batch. Could one submit an "already-launched/private beta" *up?
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rokhayakebe
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The answer is yes. That replacement of star with an asterisk might be seen as a bug...
| null | 0 | 1 |
2007-08-20 19:14:50 UTC
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siliconeurope
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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it's a chain reaction. one thing affects the other one!
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 9 | 16 |
2007-08-20 19:20:02 UTC
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NoMoreSnow
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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Oftentimes, working/thinking about my startup consumes my attention, such that my wife thinks I don't care about anything else... I find it hard to understand why other people just don't "get it" when it comes to entrepreneurship.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 2 | 16 |
2007-08-20 19:25:58 UTC
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dfranke
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Scientists: Artificial life likely in 3 to 10 years
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mds
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The plausibility of a prediction of a future breakthrough drops exponentially with its distance, and the base of that exponent is a heck of a lot smaller than three years.That said, this really would be the holy grail of biology and I'm rooting for my alma mater to be the one to discover it :-)
| null | 0 | 4 |
2007-08-20 19:30:35 UTC
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epi0Bauqu
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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"Having a life" is overrated.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 4 | 16 |
2007-08-20 19:44:44 UTC
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blored
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Banner Blindness: Old and New Findings
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brlewis
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Wow, the most impressive part of the article is the eye heat map.
| null | 4 | 25 |
2007-08-20 20:09:37 UTC
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portLAN
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Sorry, Lisp. I tried.
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portLAN
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> "Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/From Reddit a comment: "cliki.net/asdf-install and sbcl would have got him just about all he asked. SBCL does posix and threading, cl-sql, cffi for db and ffi, and I am pretty sure sbcl does sockets too."
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"Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/
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2007-08-20 20:25:02 UTC
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portLAN
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Living near Si Valley but with lower living expenses?
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gregwebs
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The Fresno Bee had an article about this recently, suggesting Clovis:
http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/99048.htmlIt gets a little hot, and it's about 3 hours from Silicon Valley.If you just want to live in a cool place that's startup-friendly, Portland rocks. It's also much less expensive.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_ForestOpen Source Development Labs/The Linux Foundation is here, too, and so is Linus.There's free wireless all over the place, and Portland was the "Most Unwired City in America" in 2003.http://map.personaltelco.net/Oh yeah, and there's no sales tax. A lot of people move just over the border to Vancouver, Washington (which has no state income tax) and shop in Portland.
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I have been thinking about trying to locate to Sacremento in the hopes of being close to Silicon Valley but being able to afford to live. Are there good startup opportunities in places like these?
| 0 | 2 |
2007-08-20 20:29:43 UTC
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RyanGWU82
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Django running on the iPhone, introspecting the phone's sqlite call records
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nickb
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As soon as I saw this headline, it made me thinkIM IN UR IPHONEINTROSPECTING UR SQLITE CALL RECORDSI need to get out more.
| null | 1 | 8 |
2007-08-20 20:38:12 UTC
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koolmoe
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Can we predict the future using a temporal version of the Copernican principle? [pdf]
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amichail
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Upvoted for this mathematician's-gauntlet-throwing snippet near the end:"I sent an e-mail on 21 October 1999 and again on 2 December 1999 to my department's
most comprehensive e-mail alias, which includes faculty, staff, and graduate students, requesting
information on pet dogs. The responses were compiled and checked for accuracy on 6 December; a
notarized list of the 24 dogs, including each dog's name, date of birth, and breed, and the caretaker's
name, was deposited in my departmental personnel file on 21 December 1999. Gott's rule predicts
that each dog will survive to twice its present age with probability 1/2. For each of the 6 dogs
above 10 years old on the list, I am offering to bet Gott $1,000 US, at odds of 2:1 in his favor, that
the dog will not survive to twice its age on 3 December 1999. The reason for weighting the odds
in Gott's favor is to test his belief in his own predictions: given the odds, his rule says that his
expected gain, at $1,000 per bet, is $6,000; moreover, the probability that he will be a net loser
(by losing five or more of the six bets) is 7/64=0.109."
| null | 0 | 6 |
2007-08-20 20:42:03 UTC
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palish
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Sorry, Lisp. I tried.
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portLAN
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This is why Arc (or Otter or whatever else) is a great idea. If the implementors can create a system similar to RubyGems where people can write drop-in plugins for things like MySQL access and whatever else then Lisp could become hugely popular.
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"Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/
| 0 | 10 |
2007-08-20 21:08:13 UTC
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ncouture
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A way to find other Y Combinator readers in your area
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dottertrotter
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I'm from Montreal in Canada so it's impossible for me to be found on hackrtrackr!
| null | 14 | 55 |
2007-08-20 21:17:31 UTC
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rms
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xkcd: No, the 9V battery hack is not a hoax. I just tried it -- here are my notes
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nickb
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This is only a good deal/hack if you need AAAA batteries; these are artificially expensive because of price fixing in the retail battery industry.
| null | 0 | 19 |
2007-08-20 21:22:34 UTC
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mikesabat
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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haha great question.I had a great situation early in the summer. My apartment has a great deck and we would have parties 3-4 nights a week. At that point I was working on my startup, well, not very much.In mid-July they started doing construction and we can't have any more parties for now. So I went in full time startup mode. My "life" is definitely on hold for a bit, but hopefully it is the jumpstart that I need to really get things moving.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 6 | 16 |
2007-08-20 21:40:07 UTC
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portLAN
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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A life spent creating is preferable to a life spent consuming.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 1 | 16 |
2007-08-20 21:42:15 UTC
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jsjenkins168
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Sorry, Lisp. I tried.
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portLAN
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My experiences with Lisp are similar. Given an infinite amount of time, I would love to write everything I needed in Lisp and have a blast doing it. But in reality everything is a matter of time, and to build fast and achieve realistic goals I need to build off of established tools as much as possible. But maybe this can change with a wider adoption of better Lisp libraries?
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"Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/
| 3 | 10 |
2007-08-20 21:42:18 UTC
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arto
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Can we predict the future using a temporal version of the Copernican principle? [pdf]
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amichail
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The subject being discussed is better-known as the Doomsday Argument, btw:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument
| null | 2 | 6 |
2007-08-20 21:46:11 UTC
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samson
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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I'm not sure how much my experience can relate to yours,but after thinking about your question for a while I personally found there's nothing I'd rather be doing more right now at the age of 22 then working on my startup.I guess to answer your question. Its impossible for me to not have a life because of it, since right now it is my life.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 3 | 16 |
2007-08-20 22:02:01 UTC
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joe
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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Yes. And "having a life" is overrated, as was noted already. I work 4-5 hours a day on a startup project, and another 4+ on a "real" job to pay the bills.However, I still find plenty of time to spend on things other than work, whether it be personal project/hobbies/self-improvement, or hanging out with friends. So I may or may not have a life, depending on what standard you're measuring by. But I'm happy.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 5 | 16 |
2007-08-20 22:02:58 UTC
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simpleenigma
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Sorry, Lisp. I tried.
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portLAN
|
Several years ago I decided that I wanted to find a language that was more powerful and elegant then anything I had worked with before. Having read much about the benefits of Lisp from Paul Graham, I obviously wanted to give it a try.I personally found it more difficult to use and the lack of standardization and libraries made it unusable for me. I gave it several weeks and tried to solve the problems I was having using it, but I finally started looking for something that had the power of Lisp, but better libraries.I ended up using Erlang (http://erlang.org) and I've never been happier. Lisp was part of the inspiration for the language, but the libraries that Erlang has built in was the real selling point for me. In fact I'm still finding gems of undocumented functions in the source code that take days off of my programming time and I've been programming in it for more then two years now.So if Lisp isn't want you want, give Erlang a try ...
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"Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/
| 1 | 10 |
2007-08-20 22:11:54 UTC
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myoung8
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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I've been working on a startup with a friend while we're both interning at different companies in Seattle. It's definitely been hard because we basically work for 8 hours, then come home, eat, and work for another 4 or 5 on our startup.Honestly, though, that's what I want to be doing. Seeing this thing come together actually makes me happy and gets me excited. It's been a rollercoaster though, some days are awful--like when we don't make any progress.We make sure to take breaks often enough. We usually play a level of Halo on legendary or go see a movie (Superbad is hilarious!) when we need one.All I can say is never give up. You will regret it more than you can possibly comprehend.
|
... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 0 | 16 |
2007-08-20 22:12:59 UTC
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ivankirigin
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20/20: "Stupid in America"
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ivankirigin
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In hopes to keep this on topic, I'll ask a question: what would a startup that is disruptive to our education system look like?Automated education sounds good. But in practice systems could be much, much better. Most teaching programs I've seen are found in the bargain basement bin at Staples.Why?
| null | 0 | 11 |
2007-08-20 22:21:38 UTC
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sbraford
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Anywhere.fm = 1.4 Millions songs uploaded.
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rokhayakebe
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So this is kind of like Orb only your music gets uploaded to a central server instead of streamed from your home PC?The UI is incredible.
|
O boy. Steve Jobs, I really recommend you call these guys up and start talking price. Seriously if I had a spare million bucks I would do anything to buy a piece of this *up.
| 6 | 25 |
2007-08-20 22:38:25 UTC
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Harj
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Do you have no life because you work in a startup or...
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vuknje
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the former.
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... do you work in a startup because you have no life?
| 12 | 16 |
2007-08-20 23:13:53 UTC
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bct
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Saving the Internet with hate: a technical solution to the social problem
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bct
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This initiative is fronted by Zed Shaw, of Mongrel fame.The technical details are on the "design" page. I disagree with most of what he has to say, but it will be interesting to see what comes of this.
| null | 0 | 9 |
2007-08-20 23:22:03 UTC
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falsestprophet
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Skype: What happened on August 16
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piers
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In other news, Microsoft announces a new peer-to-peer telephone network!
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<quote>receiving a routine software update</quote>Sounds like they're pointing the finger at microsoft to me.
| 4 | 17 |
2007-08-20 23:40:44 UTC
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karthikv
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Jeremy Zawodny: There is no Web Operating System (or WebOS)
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toffer
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Maybe we should start calling these services as "Web Desktop" instead of WebOS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_desktop
| null | 4 | 31 |
2007-08-21 00:02:13 UTC
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aaroneous
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Just launched my new site: webmapp.com
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webmapp
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Congrats on launching your site! Now my thoughts...1. You have no content and presumably just launched, but yet the browsing experience was obnoxiously slow. Why?And2. I don't get it. Why are you using user submitted news for geographical locations? What value does this offer over going to the website for a local paper? Why would you rely on user submitted news for something that could seemingly easily be aggregated? I'd like to strongly echo what the other two posters said - why do I want to use this site? I clicked around, and really couldn't get much of a feel for where you're adding value.
|
social news with a local focus
| 1 | 1 |
2007-08-21 00:05:32 UTC
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dottertrotter
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HackrTrackr Now Allows For International Users
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dottertrotter
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Based upon all the requests for international users I've added that capability, so feel free to sign up. I've also altered the interface based upon some other suggestions.
| null | 0 | 21 |
2007-08-21 00:23:36 UTC
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Jd
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Starting-Up and staying in Boston
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ivankirigin
|
Is this a rhetorical question? The answer seems obvious...
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The HackerNews MeetUp last night was lots of fun. Thanks to everyone who made it!I asked someone in the current YC batch how many in the current YC companies are staying in Boston.To his knowledge: none! That is a big surprise. What does it mean for those of us that like the town and would love to stay?
| 3 | 8 |
2007-08-21 00:31:37 UTC
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44,559 | 44,525 |
champion
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Starting-Up and staying in Boston
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ivankirigin
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Of course, there are lots of Boston area startups beyond the few YC funds. And most of those doing YC don't have Boston roots, so they might not have much reason to stay.To the larger point, Boston needs a stronger and more vibrant community of hackers, esp. for those interested in the web. And I'm bummed I missed the meetup last night...
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The HackerNews MeetUp last night was lots of fun. Thanks to everyone who made it!I asked someone in the current YC batch how many in the current YC companies are staying in Boston.To his knowledge: none! That is a big surprise. What does it mean for those of us that like the town and would love to stay?
| 1 | 8 |
2007-08-21 00:52:10 UTC
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drm237
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Jeremy Zawodny: There is no Web Operating System (or WebOS)
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toffer
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"But nobody ever talks about a "Wall Street Operating System" or a "Small Business Operating System" do they?"Microsoft Small Business Server? - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs (I know, I'm missing the point...)I do agree that it's a web desktop, not a complete OS, but his reasoning seems a little off...
| null | 2 | 31 |
2007-08-21 01:36:07 UTC
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rms
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What programming language should I start with?
|
zenobo
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www.hacketyhack.net is an integrated environment for learning ruby, the hardest part of learning ruby is setting up ruby on a web server.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 30 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:01:10 UTC
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44,583 | 44,548 |
prakash
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HackrTrackr Now Allows For International Users
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dottertrotter
|
PG: Can you please add the hacktrakr link with the other (jobs | leaders) links on the top of the page. I see many benefits to this:1. That way, even if this link is not on the first page, visitors to Hacker news have an idea of where the end-users are coming from2. There are more off line Hacker news meet-ups3. Since, YC has no plans of starting programs outside of the US, the # of visitors from various countries would be a good sign for YC clonesThanks,
| null | 1 | 21 |
2007-08-21 02:03:44 UTC
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44,585 | 44,580 |
mudge
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Do want to learn Web programming? PHP is probably the easiest programming language to learn for server-side web programming. I've read several books on PHP and looked over a bunch, and a lot are pretty good, but one of the best is this one: http://www.amazon.com/PHP-MySQL-Development-Developers-Libra...
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 17 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:08:05 UTC
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44,586 | 44,580 |
epi0Bauqu
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Pick language X. Buy Learning X from O'Reilly, e.g.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnperl4/I don't think it matters that much what you start with unless you have something in particular in mind you want to do, in which case, no matter what it is, choose Perl :)
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 12 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:08:13 UTC
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44,587 | 44,580 |
snifty
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Personally I think Python is easier to learn than Ruby; it takes a while to wrap one's newbish head around blocks, which are fundamental in Ruby.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 14 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:08:44 UTC
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44,588 | 44,580 |
nickb
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Try this: http://poignantguide.net/
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 22 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:09:45 UTC
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44,592 | 44,580 |
jey
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Preferred: Python. clean, elegant, pure, simple, easy.Just fine: Ruby. good, but less simple and elegant than Python.Good if you want to deeply understand the principles of being a programmer but don't care about being very practical at the start: Lisp (yes, Lisp can be practical, but it's trouble for a newbie)Avoid: Perl, PHP, BASIC variants. These cause brain damage.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 2 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:18:58 UTC
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44,594 | 44,580 |
ivankirigin
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Python is the easiest to learn. You can also try Lisp, but I don't have much experience with it. Lots of video lectures here:
http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lec...The argument is that there are things you can do in certain languages that you can't do with others. This is important because you're taught to think in the capabilities of the language, meaning you won't even know what you're missing in a less powerful language.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 7 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:20:40 UTC
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44,595 | 44,580 |
portLAN
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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If you want to get stuff done, Python.If you want to understand how the computer works, Assembly.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 33 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:20:49 UTC
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44,596 | 44,580 |
donna
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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I don't think learning programming is the best choice, because it's too easy to get caught up in the details of learning syntax, api, etc. I suggest working with a programmer on real projects and learning how to communicate between each other. If you're not a programmer by nature, which takes A LOT of practice to get good. You'll only become annoying since your suggestions will be uninformed. Learn to give creative suggestions at a level of abstraction, without stepping on a programmer's toes.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 9 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:21:41 UTC
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44,597 | 44,548 |
palish
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HackrTrackr Now Allows For International Users
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dottertrotter
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dotter, It's great that you were able to so quickly improve HackrTrackr. The last time I looked at it, it was a little unpolished. It's all quality now. Great work!
| null | 3 | 21 |
2007-08-21 02:22:34 UTC
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44,598 | 44,461 |
Zak
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Sorry, Lisp. I tried.
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portLAN
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Common Lisp was designed by committee, and it shows. If Lisp is to become popular, it needs a good, opinionated dialect or three. Arc will probably be one of them. Otter may be another. It would certainly be nice if there were more libraries, but most of the things the author complains about seem to be non-problems:>database accessIs there a problem with clsql (http://clsql.b9.com/)?>socketsMost Lisps (all modern ones?) support sockets. There are libraries to provide a common interface - a quick Google search got me usocket (http://www.cliki.net/usocket)>threadsOk, your options are a little more limited here, but CMUCL and SBCL support threads on x86 Linux, as do Lispworks and Allegro if you want to spend money. I suspect this isn't a big problem for most people writing web apps.>POSIXI think this is a weak point - CL was developed at a time when there was no clear OS of the future, so it was intended to be OS-agnostic. Today's (and probably tomorrow's) world has Windows, Unix and not much else.>a portable FFICFFI and UFFI both work on all the popular Lisps. What's the problem?
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"Without database access, sockets, threads, POSIX, or a portable FFI (which I could at least use to write many of those features), my programs can't talk to the outside world, and that makes them basically useless."I'm embedding it so it's going to talk to my C wrapper for everything. How are you using it?Also see: Using Python libraries from Lisp
http://common-lisp.net/project/python-on-lisp/
| 2 | 10 |
2007-08-21 02:23:18 UTC
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44,599 | 44,580 |
aarontait
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Dare I say Java? Seriously though, Java is a good programming language to start with. You get used to C style syntax, but don't have to much with memory management and architectural differences. Plus you can use Eclipse, a great IDE, for free!
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 35 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:31:04 UTC
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44,600 | 44,567 |
staunch
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Valleywag: Bow down and Worship Xobni's Party Throwing Skills
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gaborcselle
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Can't miss these two, they're damn funny:Part 1) http://www.flickr.com/photos/86921622@N00/1162778055/in/set-...Part 2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/86921622@N00/1163633584/in/set-...
I've been a Xobni-skeptic since I saw the ads for product managers/QA people, office, etc. They appear to be doing a lot of obviously wrong stuff. I know they're smart and I do wish them luck, but it looks to me as if they're mostly interested in enjoying the funded startup ride.
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There's no such thing as bad press.
| 0 | 18 |
2007-08-21 02:32:55 UTC
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44,604 | 44,580 |
sri
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Here are the languages that have big communities: Perl, Python, Ruby, PHP, Javascript, C#/VB.NET and Java.
Subscribe to lots of blogs from each community. (Many of them have planet aggregators like "Planet Python" and "Planet Ruby".) Also visit local user groups, wherever your are.Read/visit them for a while -- say a month or two. Whichever community makes you go, "wow, that's cool" -- join that community and learn the language. You can also interact with those communities via Google Groups.Lots of people will say -- "that's easy" or "this is elegant" or "that language sucks". Feel free to ignore them.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 3 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:48:26 UTC
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44,606 | 44,580 |
misham
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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The language doesn't matter that much. But read a good theory book on programming. I like "Code Complete" 2nd edition. You'll get all the info on how to be a good programmer.Mainly, concentrate on learning the technology and not a programming language. Programming languages are just tools for a specific job. By technology I mean, web programming, server/client, application, embedded, etc. Each industry has it's own language and you have to know the technology to speak their language.Best Option: Figure out what program you want to write and then find out which language you should write it in.Objective-C and Cocoa are going to be your best bet for learning application programming, but you have to have a Mac. Otherwise, learn Java. It's somewhat simpler than C/C++ because of memory issues.Microsoft stuff is not an option as it will teach you very very bad things.If you want to be really hard-core, learn C++ and Assembly ( x86 architecture ). But to be even half-way decent at those will take a lot of time and a lot of reading on how to do it right.Conclusion: Buy a Mac and learn Cocoa :)
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 19 | 20 |
2007-08-21 02:51:43 UTC
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44,608 | 44,567 |
blored
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Valleywag: Bow down and Worship Xobni's Party Throwing Skills
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gaborcselle
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XOBNI IS AMAZING AT GENERATING PRESS.They have an article written about them in valleywag pre-launch. Way to go Matt, Adam and co. You guys are truly a cut above.
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There's no such thing as bad press.
| 3 | 18 |
2007-08-21 02:59:31 UTC
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44,609 | 44,567 |
pg
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Valleywag: Bow down and Worship Xobni's Party Throwing Skills
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gaborcselle
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That was a good party. One of the things they discovered was that anywhere.fm is the perfect stereo for a party, if you put it up on a big monitor.
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There's no such thing as bad press.
| 1 | 18 |
2007-08-21 03:00:42 UTC
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44,610 | 44,580 |
dfranke
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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If you want to do things right, read SICP and learn Scheme. That's probably the fastest route for going from knowing nothing about programming to being a very good programmer. It's somewhat akin to learning to swim by jumping off the 10m platform, though, so don't get discouraged.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
| 8 | 20 |
2007-08-21 03:04:08 UTC
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44,614 | 44,509 |
pg
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Jeremy Zawodny: There is no Web Operating System (or WebOS)
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toffer
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I disagree with this. An OS is whatever apps run on, and you could write things that most of the next generation of web apps would run on. I believe Parakey was (and perhaps still is) intended to be such a platform.
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2007-08-21 03:09:07 UTC
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44,615 | 44,580 |
jdvolz
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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If you want to learn to program then C. That's right learn C. C is the language that the operating system you're using is written in, not to mention several of these other programming languages (the main implementation of Python or Ruby, for example). Is this language easy? No. Is it right for newbies? Maybe, maybe not. If you want the least amount of abstraction and don't want a bunch of stuff in your way, learn C. It's a hair's breath from learning assembly, and you can get a free compiler for it on any operating system. If you want to get stuff done quickly, learn Python or Ruby.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
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2007-08-21 03:10:06 UTC
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44,617 | 44,548 |
mariorz
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HackrTrackr Now Allows For International Users
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dottertrotter
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so once you find someone near you, how are you supposed to get in touch?
| null | 2 | 21 |
2007-08-21 03:18:34 UTC
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44,618 | 44,580 |
pg
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Just curious, but would anyone recommend Javascript?
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
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2007-08-21 03:23:57 UTC
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44,625 | 44,580 |
palish
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What programming language should I start with?
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zenobo
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Sorry.. This is probably the wrong question for you to ask :)The first question to ask is, "What would I enjoy creating? A website? A video game?"Based on that answer, you then choose the best tool for the job. Depending on the answer, you may only have one choice.
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Oh no! a non-programmer on the hacker news! But I figure you guys know?I want to learn programming, maybe not to be a full-fledged hacker, but to be able to understand the concepts and be able to talk about this stuff more with programmers so I can work in tech?I hear python and ruby are good to learn on, but what would you guys do or are there any good books you'd read?
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2007-08-21 03:46:02 UTC
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