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jsjenkins168
Significant funding leading to worse startup outcomes?
amichail
This is apparently what happened to Friendster. They raised a lot of money too fast and the VC appointed board started to take control and make bad calls. The board was focusing on the wrong problems but the founders didnt have the power to change direction. So yeah it can be bad...
It seems to me that if you receive significant funding and are expected to hire software engineers that you may end up with a worse result.After all, these employees are not as driven as the cofounders. Even with equity, it's not the same.Moreover, in a place like Silicon Valley, there's enormous competition for highly skilled software engineers.So it might be the case that having the cofounders do much of the coding may result in a better outcome.
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2007-08-17 03:58:01 UTC
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rams
YC West Coast Demo Day Roundup
jamiequint
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11585518@N04/sets/7215760148516...The photos on this page have a few interns - Does YC take interns ?
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2007-08-17 03:58:53 UTC
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rms
No, no, no, you fools. The worst mistake in human history is the INDUSTRIAL revolution.
mynameishere
perhaps fittingly, that page crashes Firefox 3 alpha
In response to this:http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43118
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2007-08-17 04:46:49 UTC
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menloparkbum
Number 3 Startup Hub?
far33d
There is no #3. Boston is WAY behind the Bay Area, even though die-hard Bostonians (er... I mean Cantabrigians) like to believe otherwise. If you don't feel that the Bay Area offers any advantage to your startup, you could probably be based almost anywhere.
So it's pretty obvious that the Bay Area is startup hub #1, and Boston is #2, but what is #3? New York? Boulder? Chicago? Seattle? Follow-up question - what cities that are not the top three seem to have the most potential to become #3?
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2007-08-17 04:52:14 UTC
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Shooter
Chicago Hackers & Entrepreneurs
samb
I live in Oak Park and have an office downtown.I'm working mostly on web apps and some business/finance services ideas (with software seasoning, of course.) I'm also an entrepreneur-in-residence for a small alternative asset fund that occasionally invests in SaaS start-ups.I've went to one "start-up event" in Chicago since moving here. It was a waste of time. (The event was held at a bar and it was too loud to have any meaningful interaction with people. I was also hit up a few too many times for funding and/or free technical input by people that had ideas for things they couldn't share except to say their idea was "like MySpace, only bigger!");-)I'd prefer a smaller, more informal meeting at a bookstore or something where the signal to noise ratio was a little better. And, even then, only if there was a compelling reason to take time away from coding...
Wanna get together sometime? I saw a few "we're from Chicago" refs in another thread.
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2007-08-17 04:53:50 UTC
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rms
The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race (by Jared Diamond)
Tichy
One of the recurring off-topic discussions on Startup News was the evolution of humanity from nomadic tribes through the Industrial Revolution and beyond. Now that the scope of the site has expanded, it would make sense that one of the most popular discussions is still the evolution of humanity. If this topic doesn't interest you, maybe you should submit a story that you find interesting.
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2007-08-17 05:02:11 UTC
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acgourley
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
That's uh... well I'm happy for him.
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2007-08-17 05:06:27 UTC
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zach
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
Wow, and this is one of those ideas at least two different people have suggested to me in conversations. I guess it was just waiting for the right platform. And no, none of them are mentioned in this article.That's a good argument for keeping ideas like this in a journal or outliner or something so you can review them when a new-platform gold rush like this comes around.And, as anomalous as this deal seems, I have to say it: it's also more support for the "get popular first and worry about profitability later" school of thought.
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2007-08-17 05:07:40 UTC
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run4yourlives
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
Note to self: avoid management team of trip advisor at all costs.
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2007-08-17 05:08:04 UTC
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acgourley
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30042 for reference
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2007-08-17 05:09:37 UTC
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rms
The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect: post-singularity fiction, freely available online
rms
Brilliant story, describes a post-singularity entire universe computer simulation where the god-like strong AI governs humanity using Asimov's 3 laws of robotics.It contains some surprisingly brilliant insights about human nature.
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2007-08-17 05:11:38 UTC
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pg
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
I'm dubious about this. There's no source. The Mashable and Techcrunch articles about this simply derive from this one. And yet Inside Facebook isn't claiming an exclusive, despite apparently having one.It may be true, but there are a lot of fishy signs.
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2007-08-17 05:58:18 UTC
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bilbo0s
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
This young man aggregated a very valuable demographic in one place. Over 2 Million prime "hosteling" candidates, and travelers all accessible through his user list. As to the question of whether this is real, I am uncertain. It would be understandable however if it were.What many entrepreneurs realize too late is that acquiring a lot of heterogeneous users quickly is of little value. Acquiring HOMOGENEOUS users is of great value. When all of a sites users are homogeneous, ie travelers, or runners, or 30 year old single women, the number of methods of monetizing them are legion. Monetization of an audience of less than 5 million is more difficult where there is no commonality.This young man chose the simplest monetization method, sell the names.
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2007-08-17 06:24:31 UTC
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dfranke
Richard Stallman safe after Peru earthquake
nickb
False alarm. He's been active on the emacs-devel mailing list for the past three days.
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2007-08-17 06:31:30 UTC
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rms
Neal Stephenson - "The Great Simoleon Caper" (short story about digital currency)
bct
Thanks for this. Is Time now in the business of publishing original science fiction?
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2007-08-17 06:54:07 UTC
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jamesbritt
Zed Shaw: Kitchen Sink
jamongkad
"What I usually hear from language designers is a laundry list of minuscule little features which are not really any better than any other language, and are usually just style differences. "Any examples? Matz? Guido? Alan Kay? Who actually says this?The article condemns those who make assertions without proof, then does that very thing. A number of times,Basically, every tool or language has some number of annoying hypesters. (Like, um, Rails, for example.) But treating them as legitimate sources of authority on that tool or language is usually just goofy.
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2007-08-17 07:46:47 UTC
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zach
VentureBeat: The Y Combinator List
jcwentz
All the "but there are a lot of competitors" caveats got tiresome.Just go ahead and say "they haven't done enough to stand out" or "it doesn't have much you couldn't get any number of other places" or even "there's not enough new here." I assume that's what those comments really mean.
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2007-08-17 07:52:26 UTC
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ctp
Richard Stallman safe after Peru earthquake
nickb
"Wikinews has learned that Richard Stallman, the founder of the GNU Project, ->is not<- missing in Peru after a massive 8.0 earthquake struck the country on August 15."
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2007-08-17 08:00:48 UTC
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henning
Richard Stallman safe after Peru earthquake
nickb
Why do natural disasters always strike highly religious areas? The bible belt is devastated by tornadoes and hurricanes every year. Don't they wonder why us liberal godless heathens on the coasts aren't feeling some divine wrath, too?
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2007-08-17 08:16:19 UTC
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staunch
YC West Coast Demo Day Roundup
jamiequint
Tip for Cloudant: market your product in countries outside of the US. In Japan, Korea, and some parts of Europe people have very high bandwidth connections but high latency to the US. A high bandwidth delay product means multiple connections is a massive win for largish files. I'd go so far as saying you should totally ignore the US entirely. Market it to foreigners as a way to download faster from the US, where so much content is hosted.
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2007-08-17 10:14:40 UTC
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rokhayakebe
VentureBeat: The Y Combinator List
jcwentz
My winners are Anywhere.fm and Dropbox. The minute anywhere goes mobile they will truly change the way we listen to music or anything audio. If you think about it one day people will laugh about the Ipod. I never really grasp the concept of putting all your songs in a box. It is like carrying all your savings in a briefcase rather than a debit card. Anywhere will soon ( i hope) start streaming your tunes using edge, gprs or wifi enabled phones. wacth out Jobs.
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2007-08-17 10:15:23 UTC
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davidw
Significant funding leading to worse startup outcomes?
amichail
I think I'd want to "take it to the data" to get a real answer.
It seems to me that if you receive significant funding and are expected to hire software engineers that you may end up with a worse result.After all, these employees are not as driven as the cofounders. Even with equity, it's not the same.Moreover, in a place like Silicon Valley, there's enormous competition for highly skilled software engineers.So it might be the case that having the cofounders do much of the coding may result in a better outcome.
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2007-08-17 10:58:25 UTC
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mojuba
Skype network is down, possibly under viral DoS attack. Lessons?
mojuba
If this is true, there are lessons to learn: (1) be open and (2) leave a door for emergency upgrades.
If this is true, there are lessons to learn: (1) be open and (2) leave a door for emergency upgrades.
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2007-08-17 11:28:36 UTC
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dpapathanasiou
Banks in Trouble: Good Summary of the Credit & Liquidity Crisis
dpapathanasiou
And yes, people, this will affect you too: both consumer loans (for cars, mortgages, etc.) and institutional credit (your VCs are using OPM) will be more difficult to come by in the coming months.
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2007-08-17 12:43:29 UTC
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luccastera
Map of Internet Usage By Country - Country size proportioned accordingly
jamiequint
Wow! It's so sad to see Africa so thin in the map. I hope the OLPC project will help fatten it up a bit.
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2007-08-17 12:50:28 UTC
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aston
VentureBeat: The Y Combinator List
jcwentz
Yay dropbox. But when are you guys launching?
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2007-08-17 13:03:43 UTC
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dpapathanasiou
VentureBeat: The Y Combinator List
jcwentz
Interesting that this latest group includes a photo-editing service: won't it compete with a similar company (slipshot, IIRC) which was funded earlier?
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2007-08-17 13:04:41 UTC
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rokhayakebe
YC West Coast Demo Day Roundup
jamiequint
My winners are Anywhere.fm and Dropbox. The minute anywhere goes mobile they will truly change the way we listen to music or anything audio. If you think about it one day people will laugh about the Ipod. I never really grasp the concept of putting all your songs in a box. It is like carrying all your savings in a briefcase rather than a debit card. Anywhere will soon ( i hope) start streaming your tunes using edge, gprs or wifi enabled phones. wacth out Jobs.
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2007-08-17 13:30:48 UTC
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aston
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
My gut tells me TripAdvisor can't expect to make back that money on the users themselves over the next few years. If they shift the app to include advertising to achieve that level of revenue, it's going to lose out to whatever copy cat is still ad-free.
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2007-08-17 13:39:13 UTC
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SwellJoe
Techcrunch: Techstars demo day
rms
While I don't have the benefit of having seen these guys first-hand (I was at YC demo day), it seems like YC has a much better batch. It's worth noting that one of them (Intense Debate) is identical in almost every regard to a YC company (Disqus). I dunno who was first, but they are both apparently in a somewhat closed beta with a few real users. Both look good, and it's a product I would use (and I believe we will be using Disqus on a new blog). May the best business win, I reckon.As a few other commentators have noted about Tech Stars (including one of the TS advisors), these are mostly features, and not products. That's OK, of course, as long as they realize they are features looking for a home rather than businesses waiting to be built.YC also has quite a few feature companies, but it's possible to think of ways most could become products without a lot of stretching of the brain or dramatic changes in direction of their development. I am, of course, speaking without having heard the pitch from the Tech Stars groups. Maybe they are like YC company Fuzzwich, which I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to build a business on it until I heard the presentation (while dosed appropriately with the YC Kool-Aid, of course). It's still a really long shot, but they'll have a lot of fun, and with luck and good biz dev they might pull off something amazing.Best of luck to the Tech Stars companies.
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2007-08-17 13:55:02 UTC
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dotcoma
Number 3 Startup Hub?
far33d
Seattle is probably number 2, isn't it?
So it's pretty obvious that the Bay Area is startup hub #1, and Boston is #2, but what is #3? New York? Boulder? Chicago? Seattle? Follow-up question - what cities that are not the top three seem to have the most potential to become #3?
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2007-08-17 14:01:22 UTC
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jsjenkins168
Techcrunch: Techstars demo day
rms
Went to each of the company links and they all required sign up before seeing anything useful. So me being lazy I skipped over all of them...I am curious when Arrington says "looking for funding" or "raising" does he mean the same thing? If "raising" implies that the company is already securing funds then I am impressed.
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2007-08-17 14:28:47 UTC
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dean
The Pareto Rule for Social Networks
ahsonwardak
I remember seeing a lot of stories 6-12 months ago that talked about the 1% rule for user-contributions to participatory web sites. 1% create content, 10% interact with it, and 89% pass it by.But according to this fairly recent article from Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN17436388200..., the percentage of people that actually generate content is even lower. For example, only 0.16% of visitors to YouTube upload videos. And 0.2% of visits to Flickr are to upload new photos. Wikipedia fares better with 4.6% of visits used to make edits. But it's all a far cry from 20% of users generating content.
How many agree with this assertion? Twenty percent of Facebookers drive eighty percent of the content - i.e. posted items, profile changes, notes, interesting wall posts. I guess that the same could go for MySpace or LinkedIn. There's always a small collection of people offering content, and many more just stalking and reading it. It could even go for this: Hacker News.
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2007-08-17 14:29:44 UTC
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Goladus
YSlow: Yahoo's problems are not your problems
pg
I'd say the web is full of horribly inefficient pages, but that's still a good article.
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2007-08-17 14:37:13 UTC
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ivankirigin
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
I think this makes sense. I certainly look at far more pictures and videos on Flickr and YouTube than I upload myself. But I do upload to both. But I think the title is wrong. These ratios seem normal to me, not weak.An interesting number would be word count of read vs. written in blogs and comments. My guess is that bloggers have an easier time having a conversation than videos or photos allow, making it more participatory. And on that same note, do you include comments as participation? I think you should, but it doesn't look like they did.
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2007-08-17 14:47:25 UTC
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eposts
Replies to your submissions should go under threads
amichail
There is this link at the bottom of news.yc page where you can request features you want: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=363
Currently, only replies to your comments are shown under threads. I think it would be better to also include replies to your submissions.
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2007-08-17 14:51:30 UTC
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ivankirigin
What is the standard for reposting anothers articles on your own site
theremora
Attribution is key. But I don't know enough about FairUse to say what the magic upper limit percentage of quoted material is. You can generally get to the beef of an article without posting more than half. Also, adding your own commentary makes your site more interesting.But don't be evil: linkjacking is annoying.
Of course there will be a link to the original authors site. But how much of the article can appear directly or is their some fair use guideline? This for more of a magazine format, and not a digg or hacker news forum.
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2007-08-17 14:55:55 UTC
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bmaier
Chicago Hackers & Entrepreneurs
samb
I'm in Lakeview. Is there an area we'd all want to meet in that's kinda central to everyone?
Wanna get together sometime? I saw a few "we're from Chicago" refs in another thread.
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2007-08-17 15:00:56 UTC
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cowmoo99
What's Wrong with CS Research
byrneseyeview
I used to be one of those people who came into a CS undergrad program, complaining about the barrage of math we had to learn and the very little detailed real-world programming we had to do. However, after having taken PL, automata, crypto, algorithms and AI, I see the point of having concrete rigor of proof and abstraction about your code. However, what the author says about CS being a badly managed field, by being a mix-bag of math and science rings true to me. For instance, I have found out when I was a student sysadmin for my school, one of my CS professor who does research in typed-system does not know Perl. It behooves me that someone involved in CS, particularly research of programming languages, do not have a fundamental understanding of the practical application of their field. Someone earlier pointed out Church-Turing thesis being completely useless at the time of their publication, the same argument could be made for the Crick-Watson DNA publication (in their original publication, Watson only suggested that DNA being a double-helix). But the difference between these truly remarkable scientific discoveries with the average Joe academic pumping out crap each year, is that these theories were even then, foreseeable to have impact. No, I don't buy the "oh, theory is an art; let the academics work for knowledge's sake." Recent advances in technology are as much driven by industry as much by academia, see Bioinformatics (Celera), see high performance computing (Aerospace companies), see AI/data-mining (Spam Bayesian filters, Amazon, Netflix). I read recently a quote that declared "form is liberating" - just as architects are forced to design their pieces by both the constraints of material and economics; I would rather design my software and theory in the domain of application.
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2007-08-17 15:00:58 UTC
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pg
Replies to your submissions should go under threads
amichail
killed; should go in feature requests
Currently, only replies to your comments are shown under threads. I think it would be better to also include replies to your submissions.
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2007-08-17 15:10:11 UTC
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bmaier
Chicago Hackers & Entrepreneurs
samb
I just set up a campfire for Chicago news.ycers if you want an invite drop your email to cubend#gmail.com It'll be easier to work something out in there.
Wanna get together sometime? I saw a few "we're from Chicago" refs in another thread.
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2007-08-17 15:12:29 UTC
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pg
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
Weak in comparison to what standard? So .2% of Flickr visits are to upload photos. What percentage of visits would represent "strong" participation?
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2007-08-17 15:13:55 UTC
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pg
What is the standard for reposting anothers articles on your own site
theremora
Why repost at all? Isn't this what links are for?
Of course there will be a link to the original authors site. But how much of the article can appear directly or is their some fair use guideline? This for more of a magazine format, and not a digg or hacker news forum.
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2007-08-17 15:26:35 UTC
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josefresco
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
Even large producers of content consume more content than they produce. For every blog post I usually view 10-12 sites/articles/posts myself from external sources.This is news?
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2007-08-17 15:27:02 UTC
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darragjm
Daft Punk's Magical Pyramid/Spaceship: Infiltrated!
darragjm
Figured I'd try to spice up the music-related hacker news a bit...Here's some more pics during construction: http://www.erolalkan.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4048
Figured I'd try to spice up the music-related hacker news a bit...Here's some more pics during construction: http://www.erolalkan.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4048
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2007-08-17 15:28:29 UTC
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tocomment
VentureBeat: The Y Combinator List
jcwentz
I don't get anywhere.fm. Isn't this what mp3.com tried to do and got sued out of existense for? I.e., you verified what CD's you owned with them and then you could listen to the CD anywhere.What am I missing?
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2007-08-17 15:31:07 UTC
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theremora
What is the standard for reposting anothers articles on your own site
theremora
makes sense, so maybe a caption, commentary and the link would be the proper approach
Of course there will be a link to the original authors site. But how much of the article can appear directly or is their some fair use guideline? This for more of a magazine format, and not a digg or hacker news forum.
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2007-08-17 15:47:06 UTC
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mynameishere
How To Make a Funny Talk Title Without Using The Word "Weasel"
fad
Wasn't the term "open source software" invented specifically to get away from the word "free" in "free software"? They (companies) recognized that there was a branding problem all along.
he's blagging about branding this timehas a link to a video with his speech at OSCOM at the end
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2007-08-17 16:05:45 UTC
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heri
Map of Internet Usage By Country - Country size proportioned accordingly
jamiequint
seems finland is #1 with 75% of the population classified as internet users. that means everyone for me btw (because babies can't possibly be internet users do they?)
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2007-08-17 16:07:13 UTC
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nick_357
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
It is too bad this article does not mention what the upload/read only ratio is for MySpace and Facebook since I would imagine that these sites probably have higher ratios that would dispute their claim.
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2007-08-17 16:08:49 UTC
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jsmcgd
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
Provided these sites have sufficient content, these 'low participation' figures actually suggest that user content is being widely viewed.Also I think a high submission to viewing ratio would correspond with a deluge of low quality content.
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2007-08-17 16:27:01 UTC
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ivankirigin
Knex computer at Olin College
s_baar
Style-wise, this wooden binary adder wins: http://woodgears.ca/marbleadd/This MIT project uses Fluidics, making computers from water: http://www.blikstein.com/paulo/projects/project_water.htmlSo if electrons are fire, we now have wood and water. I suppose these wind-powered walking robots complete the set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Ny5BYc-Fs
"The K'NEX calculator stands over 10 feet tall, and can perform 4 bit addition and subtraction operations in about 30 seconds. The slowest part of the operation is the user entering the balls. From there the balls trickle down, computing the result of the operation, and then sending that through a 4 bit decoder, which flips a flag that tells the user the answer. Since it is 4 bit, we can add and subtract numbers from 0 to 15."
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2007-08-17 16:34:41 UTC
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jamiequint
Map of Internet Usage By Country - Country size proportioned accordingly
jamiequint
I'm wondering if this includes mobile internet usage. Since as luccastera pointed out, Africa is small (yet there mobile usage is comparatively high).
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2007-08-17 16:35:38 UTC
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nostrademons
how popular are friends lists in social news sites?
sugarfree
It's important, but it's not important for the initial release. Because when you're just starting out, nobody on the site has any friends (that visit the site, at least ;-)).Friends lists seem more useful after a community grows, because they let it fragment. That seems to be the only way to avoid the scale problems that plague bigger news sites like Digg and Reddit. If you're truly niche and don't anticipate growing, you won't need them at all. (But then, if you're truly niche, you've really got a hobby and not a startup...)I'd put them off till your users ask for them, basically.
I'm writing a niche social news site, and I'm wondering if I should bother including "friends" functionality. I've used digg, reddit & slashdot for years and have never felt it necassary to maintain a list of friends. it's a news site, not a social network, so I'm not sure how useful it would be. what do you think?
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2007-08-17 16:49:05 UTC
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joshwa
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
I'd be more interested in % of participating visitors than visits. Also, commenters count, too!
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2007-08-17 16:59:25 UTC
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eposts
The "I Have 250,000 Users, Now What?" guy just sold his Facebook app for $3 million
toffer
Here is some juicy stuff - Tripadvisor says the report is not true: http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9761584-7.html
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2007-08-17 17:07:25 UTC
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Updated: TripAdvisor Denies Buying Facebook App
horatio05
Yup. I posted it in this thread a while back, but looks like it got buried under earlier posts: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43352
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2007-08-17 17:29:44 UTC
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epi0Bauqu
Top Ten Reasons To Avoid Venture Capital
KeshRivya
Who makes a top ten list and then doesn't number the items? I guess these people...
venture capital's downside.
1
10
2007-08-17 17:29:57 UTC
43,537
43,534
epi0Bauqu
What is going on with the editing of submission titles?
dpapathanasiou
What were the changes?
Twice now, I've seen my submission titles edited by someone else (probably Graham or his admins, if he has any for this site).Both times, the edits were innocuous (the first one improved the title ever so slightly) but unnecessary.It's not a huge problem, but it is a bit annoying.
3
32
2007-08-17 17:43:07 UTC
43,539
43,463
udfalkso
Participation on Web 2.0 sites remains weak
dean
Basically, this article stinks and just uses a sensationalist headline for the sake of it.
null
7
7
2007-08-17 17:48:13 UTC
43,542
43,449
nostrademons
Why fund managers have an incentive to take overly high risks
Tichy
I had a similar WTF moment when I read how Buffett was picking the new manager of Berkshire Hathaway. It seems to go against everything he's taught in 30 years of letters from the chairman. He's written specifically about how short-term incentives like this lead to poor performance over time.It makes me wonder if there's something else at work. Maybe Buffett plans to watch what the managers do with the money over 2 years, ignore the results, and pick the one whose actions best fit Buffett's investing style. The "contest" aspect is to see how managers react to temptation - after all, they will face incentives like this every time they need to write Berkshire's annual reports. Buffett wants something who will do the right thing even when the incentives are not aligned with it. This way, he can weed out the ones that will prioritize short term gain over long term health when people ask for short term gain, and select only the ones that actually know what they're doing.
null
0
2
2007-08-17 17:55:49 UTC
43,544
43,534
staunch
What is going on with the editing of submission titles?
dpapathanasiou
I think it'd be nice if there were some simple page displaying what instructions the admins are operating under. They're white knights not gestapo, right? :-)
Twice now, I've seen my submission titles edited by someone else (probably Graham or his admins, if he has any for this site).Both times, the edits were innocuous (the first one improved the title ever so slightly) but unnecessary.It's not a huge problem, but it is a bit annoying.
1
32
2007-08-17 18:04:36 UTC
43,546
43,528
nickb
Updated: TripAdvisor Denies Buying Facebook App
horatio05
When I heard the $3mm figure, I immediately started questioning it. That much money for something that can't be monetized that easily is just silly. Sure, that app owner has amassed all these users but these users are not his! He has no relationship with them so the value that he's trying to sell is heavily discounted.
null
3
13
2007-08-17 18:08:59 UTC
43,555
43,484
jquigley
Chicago News.YC Campfire
bmaier
Also, note that a group of us are meeting weekly for a development sprint. An initial site is here: http://www.tekniks.org/ We're meeting later today, at 7p, right downtown. Hope to see you folks out.- John Quigley
just set up at ycombinator.campfirenow.com so that we can work out a meetup or just talk more directly than in the comments here. If you want an invite mail cubend#gmail.com
1
8
2007-08-17 18:27:52 UTC
43,562
43,534
pg
What is going on with the editing of submission titles?
dpapathanasiou
Editors edit submission titles for two reasons:1. To keep the site clean (no spelling mistakes, gratuitously long titles, SHOUTING!!!, etc.)2. To keep titles fairly neutral. People have a right to say what they want in comments, but because a story can only be submitted once, if we didn't edit submission titles, the first submitter could put whatever spin on the story, and all readers would have to read it as that.
Twice now, I've seen my submission titles edited by someone else (probably Graham or his admins, if he has any for this site).Both times, the edits were innocuous (the first one improved the title ever so slightly) but unnecessary.It's not a huge problem, but it is a bit annoying.
0
32
2007-08-17 18:58:33 UTC
43,563
43,561
budu3
Skype shuts down
budu3
I wish they could explain further what caused the outage. I think it'll help in future designs of p2p networks.
null
2
10
2007-08-17 18:59:19 UTC
43,568
43,493
daniel-cussen
Genetically Capitalist (.pdf)
byrneseyeview
Natural selection favors nerdiness...awesome.
null
0
2
2007-08-17 19:08:24 UTC
43,577
43,561
nickb
Skype shuts down
budu3
Word is that they're trying to comply with Patriot Act and wiretapping provisions. Since Skype's a P2P app, they need to somehow capture all these conversations.
null
0
10
2007-08-17 19:14:25 UTC
43,579
43,571
pbnaidu
JavaScript Model Objects (JMO) - An Idea
nickb
What's the difference between the proposed solution and yui's datatable/datasource?
null
0
2
2007-08-17 19:22:04 UTC
43,580
43,416
daniel-cussen
Lies, Damn Lies, and the Number of Sexual Partners
adamx
This just proves what everyone knew all along...unless there truly are a few super-prostitutes that make the median go up to 7 for men.
null
0
8
2007-08-17 19:24:53 UTC
43,581
42,823
alex_c
Squirrels wield a hot, secret weapon
farmer
http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/08/tests-with-robo.htmlApparently I'm not the only one who got a kick out of "Tests with robotic squirrels". :)
null
1
12
2007-08-17 19:26:24 UTC
43,583
43,403
daniel-cussen
Knex computer at Olin College
s_baar
Those things were once cutting-edge; I believe Charles Babbage designed one in the 1830s, and Richard Feynman worked on another mechanical computer in WW2.
"The K'NEX calculator stands over 10 feet tall, and can perform 4 bit addition and subtraction operations in about 30 seconds. The slowest part of the operation is the user entering the balls. From there the balls trickle down, computing the result of the operation, and then sending that through a 4 bit decoder, which flips a flag that tells the user the answer. Since it is 4 bit, we can add and subtract numbers from 0 to 15."
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13
2007-08-17 19:28:50 UTC
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43,483
daniel-cussen
FuturePundit: Depressed People Cannot Control Emotional Responses To Negative Images
ivankirigin
Totally agree. I am pretty sure I would test positive for bipolarity, and distractions are about the only things that can make me happy when I'm depressed.
null
0
4
2007-08-17 19:58:13 UTC
43,597
43,484
bmaier
Chicago News.YC Campfire
bmaier
On second thought, if the need is there I'll just put out the cash and get a 12 user room for the month. Campfire seems like a good way to do this. Any other suggestions?
just set up at ycombinator.campfirenow.com so that we can work out a meetup or just talk more directly than in the comments here. If you want an invite mail cubend#gmail.com
2
8
2007-08-17 20:01:36 UTC
43,600
43,528
far33d
Updated: TripAdvisor Denies Buying Facebook App
horatio05
This is so weird... To whose advantage is it to lie about this so blatantly?
null
4
13
2007-08-17 20:10:30 UTC
43,602
43,525
brianmckenzie
OpenID: Great idea, bewildering consumer experience
nickb
Great post. I'm working on an OpenID implementation for my site right now so I've been thinking about this stuff. I really want to use OpenID exclusively, but not sure it's ready for prime time.What we really need is a way to wrap the OpenID sign up process within our site registration, and when the registration is done tell the user 'Hey, you now have an OpenID which you can use on tons of other sites!'. I doubt that many non-geek users will be wading through all OpenID pages to find out how to actually get one - they will use it if they can sign up for one on my site. Also, there should be an OpenID signup form right on the front of the openid.net site - why isn't there? They could just send it to a random provider or something. OpenIDs are so easy to use once you have one, yet so difficult to get.Here's another thing I'm considering: since all AIM addresses are OpenID's now, just ask people for their AIM address and never even mention OpenID. Maybe make the login form default to AIM with a little text link to switch to OpenID, for people who know what it is.If I figure out a frictionless OpenID strategy, I'll post it up here on news.yc.
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0
22
2007-08-17 20:18:28 UTC
43,603
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pg
Skype shuts down
budu3
Now that they're owned by EBay, maybe they should have scheduled downtime once a week.
null
1
10
2007-08-17 20:27:00 UTC
43,605
43,561
far33d
Skype shuts down
budu3
Can anyone think of an example of another equally successful service having this much downtime?
null
3
10
2007-08-17 20:42:13 UTC
43,607
43,525
ph0rque
OpenID: Great idea, bewildering consumer experience
nickb
There's a YC company (sitepass, I believe) that is working on using OpenID. I assume they are working to assuage these problems?
null
1
22
2007-08-17 20:46:27 UTC
43,618
43,611
rms
Comcast Throttles BitTorrent Traffic, Seeding Impossible
rms
This is true for my Comcast connection in Pittsburgh.
null
0
2
2007-08-17 21:12:09 UTC
43,627
43,479
natrius
Fuck Facebook Conversion: Be platform agnostic and use your own APIs.
jkopelman
That's a pretty naive analysis of the situation. A good Facebook app isn't just some functionality shoved into boxes on people's profiles and canvas pages. You actually have to integrate with the site to make it useful.Any site that does anything remotely social already has it's own friend relationships to help manage that. Putting such a site's functionality into a Facebook app is never going to be as simple as copy and pasting, and if your site isn't social enough to have already necessitated its own friend feature, it's not going to be social enough add any utility as a Facebook app."Right now, most of the widgets that are out there are an attempt to squeeze the elements of a service into a neat little sidebar rectangle--a bottleneck created by one-way APIs, limited space, and underwhelming goals."How does his solution solve that?
null
0
18
2007-08-17 21:36:43 UTC
43,634
43,515
webwright
Top Ten Reasons To Avoid Venture Capital
KeshRivya
This paints all VCs as moronic and unethical-- that just isn't the case all the time...The list of consumer startups who have taken zero VC dollars is pretty damn short...
venture capital's downside.
0
10
2007-08-17 22:13:51 UTC
43,639
43,635
palish
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Wait, what? Dude, a story that's submitted should be titled the same regardless of who submits the story. The only variance in titles should be mere semantics. Any extra information in the title only adds bias or spelling/grammar mistakes. Therefore, editing a title to its correct form is just fine. Relax.But if you can't relax, goodbye. If this thread title is any indication, you produce great Reddit/Digg titles.I hope Paul changes "title: " to "suggest a title: " on the submission page so people realize it's not their title. They didn't produce the content, and if they did then the editors aren't retitle it.
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
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48
2007-08-17 22:25:37 UTC
43,643
43,635
motoko
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Wow, and suddenly I realized how much it must suck to be an editor...
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
9
48
2007-08-17 22:34:07 UTC
43,644
43,635
nostrademons
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Thing is, Reddit really sucks now. I was just visiting it today and was amazed by the number of ignoranuses (ignoranus = someone who is both stupid and an asshole) on it.I wonder if this is the eventual fate of all online communities. I've been through at least half a dozen now, and I've yet to see one survive as something other than trite, meaningless bullshit.The curious thing is - in at least one case (HP fandom, and possibly the C2 wiki), I kept the friendships that I formed in it. Maybe that's the real point of online communities - form offline friendships, and keep those.Looking forward to the Boston meetup on Sunday...
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
0
48
2007-08-17 22:34:46 UTC
43,648
43,484
bmaier
Chicago News.YC Campfire
bmaier
Ok, a forum is set up for now at http://www.geekchicago.com/talk the geekchicago.com site itself is not complete yet but the forum is working, lets talk there.
just set up at ycombinator.campfirenow.com so that we can work out a meetup or just talk more directly than in the comments here. If you want an invite mail cubend#gmail.com
0
8
2007-08-17 22:39:34 UTC
43,650
43,635
zach
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Also, Reddit doesn't have as much meaningless drama. As of right now, anyway.
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
12
48
2007-08-17 22:48:02 UTC
43,651
43,635
twism
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
It somehow felt a lot better IMO when it was "Startup News"
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
10
48
2007-08-17 22:51:23 UTC
43,659
43,635
jsnx
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
I don't see any reason to choose between ynews and reddit. The level of technical dialogue here is better, no question -- and for awesome lolcats and social interest anecdotes, like http://politics.reddit.com/goto?id=2g6mu, there's reddit.
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
7
48
2007-08-17 23:13:12 UTC
43,664
43,635
dawie
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
I really liked the fact that YCombinator news was a niche site and I often wonder if the future of these sosial news sites is not having every category on a different site to deal with the signal vs noise factor...
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
3
48
2007-08-17 23:20:46 UTC
43,666
43,635
vikram
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Why not create www.startupnews.com? If you want the code, google 'reddit clone'. I think the lisp community wrote atleast a dozen reddit clones after reddit switched from lisp to python.I say this because a lot of people have a problem with the change from a startup focused to a hacker focused site. Since you already have a community which is united around a common vision, it's probably worth acting now and create another site.The lisp hackers did a similar thing when reddit moved from lisp to python. For some reason they thought that reddit was only for lisp hackers. BTW, I don't think that worked as most lisp hackers were already active on cll or #lisp
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
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48
2007-08-17 23:30:11 UTC
43,667
43,458
Goladus
12 Important US Laws that every blogger needs to know
Keios
I really don't like the advice for #7 (bloggers do not own user generated content). Not necessarily that he's making it, it's just not the way it should be.If I posted an essay in this comment, it should be up to me to save a copy of the work. Ycombinator should not have to make me agree to give up rights, the relevant rights should be given up automatically by the fact that I donated a copy of the work to store on their servers.
Applicable to more than just blogs.
0
5
2007-08-17 23:31:38 UTC
43,668
43,635
Goladus
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
I have two recommendations:1. Have patience.2. Be a part of the solution.
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
6
48
2007-08-17 23:33:48 UTC
43,669
43,635
fleaflicker
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
talk about sycophancy
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
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2007-08-17 23:36:09 UTC
43,670
42,854
alec
news.ycombinator meetup - Cambridge, MA
bokonist
I'm interested and should be able to make it.
We did a news.ycombinator.com meetup this past June and the turnout was great. Let's do another. It would be great to have a mix of summer ycombinator startups and people thinking of applying this October.For a time/place, how about: Sunday, August 19th at 7 PM 1369 Coffee House in Central Square 757 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139Leave a comment if you are interested.
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20
2007-08-17 23:37:06 UTC
43,674
43,439
SwellJoe
The Objective Of The First Meeting With A VC
markpeterdavis
I would add a third objective:To make sure you like the investor, and they would bring useful skills, contacts, and advice to your company.This article assumes that going into the meeting you already know you want this VC to invest in you. You can have a pretty good idea of that by looking at their portfolio and asking around among people who've taken money from them, but personalities matter.
The purpose of the first meeting with a VC is to get a second meeting. The purpose of the first meeting is not: 1) to secure an investment from the VC after the conclusion of that meeting, or 2) to tell the VC everything there is to know about your company.
0
3
2007-08-18 00:13:54 UTC
43,675
43,528
toffer
Updated: TripAdvisor Denies Buying Facebook App
horatio05
It looks to me like the (alleged) TripAdvisor purchase was first discussed at AppDevCon (a gathering of Facebook developers, entrepreneurs, and investors hosted by SocialMedia) on 8/15. This discussion took place before Inside Facebook wrote up the "Biggest Facebook App Acquisition Yet" post.Inside Facebook live-blogged the AppDevCon (http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/08/15/live-from-appdevcon...) and @ 3:23 PM, they quote Naval Ravikant from Hitforge as saying "The value of a Facebook user is going up - at first users were being sold for $0.10, now it's $0.60-$0.70. TripAdvisor just bought Where I've Been for $1.50/user."There's no indication that anyone who was there was shocked or surprised at this statement. Instead, it seemed like it was presented rather matter-of-factly, like it was common knowledge.
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2007-08-18 00:20:41 UTC
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43,528
toffer
Updated: TripAdvisor Denies Buying Facebook App
horatio05
Just found this statement from Craig Ulliott (creator of the Where I've Been app) on news.com (http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9761584-7.html):"There have been some rumors in the market that we have sold our business. These rumors are not true. Our future development plans, combined with our robust community of users, current growth rates, and the attractiveness of the travel vertical, have led to a number of strategic discussions with potential partners/acquirers, but we have not agreed to any deals and we are committed to building Where I've Been into a sustainable and profitable standalone business."
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0
13
2007-08-18 00:23:17 UTC
43,680
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budu3
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
Is PG butt kissing the "elephant in the room"?
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
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mynameishere
Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.
jmpeters
The number of typical comments for a post determine what kind of people want to/are willing to comment:0-10 comments: People who want to talk about the post per se11-50 comments: People who want to have a conversation.51- comments: People who want to join a mob.Obviously, ynews is moving from the first to the second, and that changes the types of comments/people commenting/overall community.
It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest. PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"
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