Well, maybe not anything - but surely not the entire tivo music db (or knowledge graph, as they put it) or whatever allmusic has behind its site.
Metadata is a big can of worms. My inclination would be to have greater ability to manage my own metadata within Roon (artist info, composer info, album info), the ability to choose mine over Roon’s if/when desired and the ability to fully extract it if/when desired. While I think music sources can and will improve, I don’t there there’s anyway for Roon to please everyone fully. So giving users an ability to better self-manage would be a step in the right direction. I love having the ability to drop PDFs, artist and album art in as well as edit much of the metadata, but I’m curious why there’s no ability to manage the descriptive info. Legal issues I suspect but it seems a bit arbitrary.
Indeed. And with the unexpected victory of Oracle over Google in the API copyrights case, who knows fair use even means?
@anon49565150, tell us more about your personal-use web interface to LMS?
The effort of one individual could not be seen as “competing” against Roon so I’ll say a few words. It is ongoing, and I have developed so far an album grid page, and artist grid page, with navigation and various sorts and filters. It just aims at having a more “modern” look and feel than the LMS web interface, and be simpler to use. But it is a lot of work… When i get something presentable I will post it on the LMS forum, with the hope that some experienced developers can contribute to enhance it.
I have notes (copies of reviews, links…) in text files in my folders, and they can be displayed in a tab when viewing an album (a local web server needs to be set up - I use caddyserver which is very simple to install and automatically converts files in markdown format to html). I plan on being able to edit the files from the web page, but have not done so yet.
For artists, the “artist and album information” plugin can retrieve artist artwork, which I display, but I intend on setting up some sort of artist database as well to add more information (essentially Wikipedia links). At some point… That is a challenge itself.
I have also strived to present each album’s tracks more simply than in LMS. I put the option of displaying the “comments” tag as a sort of header to group tracks, which is convenient, for example to name discs, but also to identify for example: original album, bonus tracks… Sort of what Discogs allows you to do with headers.
I also have the option of splitting tracks into works using a seperator character (I use a colon) which is not ideal, but better than nothing.
This file based system is far from optimal, but it works for me.
My initial idea was to collect information on jazz discography sessions into a web database, that could be searched and used to populate album credits.
I believe this could be applicable to classical music as well.
There are a lot of private “collectors” that build discographies.
Mosaic box sets alos have a wealth of information.
But to get back to LMS, it is limited, and for the time I am using it to leverage its existing functionalities.
Unfortunately, that’s all directed at collectors of classics, not as listeners of new jazz My main issue is that new jazz releases from independent labels have no of very limited metadata. Even for highly visible current jazz artists like Jason Moran.
My assumption is that for new music the information is more readily available. I could be wrong.
My assumption is that for new music the information is more readily available.
I wish Many small independent labels don’t upload metadata to Allmusic or Musicbrainz.
I realize that. Discogs may be a better source.
… but then real fans could jump in and add the data in musicbrainz.
Populating Musicbrainz does take some time though.
Right - and for a classical album with no existing reference in musicbrainz it can take ages. At least that’s how it sometimes feels to me.
Labels should be incited to upload their data to musicbrainz.
For years when I was using iTunes I obsessively contributed closely noted metadata of jazz albums to CDDB, every track listed with performers and their instruments. And what happened to it all? Gracenote. Kind of soured me on community-sourced metadata effort.
Understandable concerns. With metabrainz I hope even if they had to cease operation data will not be lost.