These words were said in פרשת בא, תשי"ז. Many of you may have heard it over the years, but figured it was hearsay, or exaggerated to a certain extent. But here it is. שווארץ אויף ווייס.
"מי אני ומה אני to admonish the Jewish people." But I cannot be silent, being that I am the only one - there is nobody else to assist me. If not for the Satmar Rov saying it again and again, reprimanding the Jewish people, "there would not be a minyan of Jews who believe in G-d."
Now, if you ask a Satmar talmid he'll tell you that the Rebbe zichroyne livruche means to say that all Jews who did not believe like him didn't believe in G-d fully, because they were tainted by heresy. Namely ציונות. So it's not such a major statement. Kind of like the vort from Reb Chaim Brisker: נעבאך אן אפיקורס איז פארט אן אפיקורס. I suppose we can count the Brisker Rov and his sons, and Reb Amrom Bloy in his minyan, since they were all still alive. Other than that all the few hundred Edah'nikkes and Toldos Ahron'ers would also not have been clean and pure. Yossel Ashkenazi doesn't make the cut, in my opinion, either. Nor does any of the tier 1 gedolim who lived in Eretz Yisroel in 1957. Like the Tchenibner Rov and the Gerrer Rebbe. You can assume that he waited until the passing of the Chazon Ish a few years before, and the Belzer Rov the previous summer, to make such a statement, otherwise the world would be up in arms. So to be fair let's say that he's only counting those who were alive at the time. Those who passed away already didn't need him to teach them right from wrong. There would less than ten true G-d fearing Jews alive in 1957 were it not for him making his points over and over again. The late Ponovizher Rosh Yeshiva (d. 2002 2001) like to say that he always looked over his shoulder to see what the Satmar Rov was saying, to keep him from going overboard in his quest to juggle the issues that Haredi Jewry faced in the Holy Land. But it seems like that didn't suffice for the SR.
So I ask my many Satmar friends here: did the SR mean this in a literal sense? that all those who are tainted by ציונות - vote in elections, take Government money, etc. - do not believe in G-d? and if he wasn't being literal what else falls into that category? What else did he say that he didn't REALLY mean?
also in the presence on Mount Carmel in chapter 18:22, "I remain a prophet to God alone."
How does Elijah say this sentence - if in chapter 18 himself it appears that Abdia hid 100 prophets?
The bull said to Elijah: My friends and I went out of one belly and grew up in one manger. He went up to God's part and the name of God will be sanctified upon him, and I will go down as to spite my Creator !?. Why?
Buck: "I suppose we can count the Brisker Rov and his sons, and Reb Amrom Bloy, in his minyan,"
How about Rabbi Moshe Hirsch from "BMG of Lakewood", was he not from the Minyan too?
Which Ponovizher Rosh Yeshiva died in 2002? Rav Shach died in November 2001.
Q : "So I ask my many Satmar friends here: did the SR mean this in a literal sense?"
Yidisher vekker printed in Shanghai. Anyone has ?
נאמן עלי דברי הדבר"י ז"ל, שסיפור שבעצמו דיבר באריכות עם החזון איש בזה הענין "השיטה" שלנו, ולשניהם היה בדעה אחת בזה הענין. וגם ידועה להציבור, החזו"א היה בדעה: אז משיח וועט נישט איבער נעמען פון זיי די מלוכה, עפעס וועט זיין דערצוישען"
meaning your tearing down everyone is not a way if you really want to succeed in the new country of Isreal.
"דור שכולו חייב קען דאך ניט זיין ווייל סאיז דא די סאטמר רב... מדברי אדמור הנוכחי של חבד"
טשיבינער רב, גערער רבי, בעלזער רבי, אין די איביריגע תואר הראשון פון די רבני" א"י. האבן די אללע צונעזאם אראפגעשריבן "דעת קודשם" וואס זייער דעת איז? זענען זיי נישט מחיוב גיווען דאס צי טוהן. ס'איז גיווען דאהו א תלמיד חביב פון טשיבינער רב ז"ל ער האט אסאך פארברענגט ביים סאטמאר רב דעמאלט, פאר ער איז צוריק געפארן האט ער זיך גיזעגינט ביים רב"י אין גיפרעגט צו דער רב"י וויל מיט שיקען עפעס א "שליחות" צום טשיבינער רב: זאג איהם כ'האב זיך באמיעט אפצושרייבן אגאנץ ספר, פארוואס ענטפערט ער מיר נישט צוריק. ע"כ" "
So who was the פקח ברשעו ?
Belzer Ruv, Gerer Rebbe, and chebiner ruv?
the time has come to speak out with all the respect to the SR, it is possible the his EXTREME SHITA was not right, because non of the gedolim at the time held with him.
the time has come to voice our disagreement in a respectful manner.
Hi: "These words were said in פרשת בא, תשי"ז. - I suppose we can count the Brisker Rov and his sons, and Reb Amrom Bloy in his minyan,"
Josh the answer lies in the question itself. a 'hidden' prophet [or rabbi] is not to be considered..
Because he was a pious Ox.
You once uploaded a recording of the Tzeilemer Rov saying selichos. It's not there any more. Can you upload it again please?
"Russian Chief Rabbi "Berel Lazar secretly visited Iran" almost six months ago as part of a diplomatic trip organized by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Israeli media reported over the weekend."
"Russian Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar secretly visited Iran".
The trip was reportedly headed by the chairman of Russia's State Duma and included talks in the Iranian parliament.
Lazar, who heads the Chabad movement in Russia, is considered close to Putin and is often accused of supporting the president unconditionally in exchange for his regime’s seal of approval for Chabad.
HT: "did the SR mean this in a literal sense?, all those who are tainted by Zionism -- do not believe in G-d" ?
“I never turned anyone into a pig. / Some people are pigs; I make them / look like pigs.” - Louise Glück.
According to police estimates at thid week Friday night, Saturday, in Bnei Brak (the Geha road and the Jabotinsky road), more than 60,000 people participated. No unusual incidents were reported.
Yedioth Ahronoth: The headquarters of the ultra-Orthodox struggle rejected NTA's claims that the work was permitted on Shabbat for reasons of "pikuach nefesh."
The Modi'in and HaMabasher emphasize that the police gave full confidence to the promises of Mayor Zeibert and did not disperse along the rally route. "It did not bring special forces or police officers, not cavalry, and did not bring up a police helicopter. Thanks and appreciation were expressed. "
The participants in Agudat Israel's diaries calculated: "The residents of Betar are about 200,000 people, with women, children and old people. The absence of women cuts to half the potential of the participants. Out of the remaining 100,000, tens of thousands of toddlers and elderly who did not participate should be reduced.
According to a police estimate, 50 to 60,000 people participated in the rally on Saturday night, and "Lithuanian Chassidim, Sephardim and Yemenites" attended the rally.
You: "You can assume that he waited until the passing of the Chazon Ish a few years before,"
figurative speaking. now figure it out yourself .
the Goan Hadoir was to busy..
"my grandmother told me — never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it."
pea: "the chazon ish told him we have to build yeshivas and mosdos,"
pee wee, you can't even finish your own sentence, indeed he told him we have to build 'talmid torahs' where children will learn in "Yiddish language" not ivrit. and because of that satmar ruv opened his talmid torah in bnai berak and other israeli cities where only Yiddish was spoken, and all chazon ish'niks used the Satmar talmid torah in bnai brrak.
ps: "tearing down everyone"!? who ever built more talmid toras and all kind of mosdos hatorah than the SR ? !!!, certainly not the CI.
"obviously if Chebiner Ruv did not see a need to answer, -- what dont you understand?"
And his opinion wasn't needed either when it counted..
Ever hear of the Yabloner Rebbe?