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The Black Stallion Returns | Short description | The Black Stallion Returns is a 1983 adventure film, an adaptation of the book of the same name by Walter Farley, and sequel to The Black Stallion. The only film directed by Robert Dalva, it was produced by Francis Ford Coppola for MGM/UA Entertainment Company.
Kelly Reno and Teri Garr reprise their roles with Hoyt Axton once again serving as the narrator. New cast members include Allen Garfield, Vincent Spano and Woody Strode. The portrayal of The Black was shared between Cass Ole, the horse from the first film, and El Mokhtar in his only film appearance. |
The Black Stallion Returns | Plot | Plot
Several odd occurrences, including a suspicious fire, happen at the farm where Alec Ramsay (Kelly Reno) and his mother (Teri Garr) stable Alec's horse, “The Black.” One night, “The Black” is taken away. Sheik Ishak (Ferdy Mayne) says he is responsible, claiming that the stallion is his stolen property that he has retrieved, learning his whereabouts due to the publicity about “The Black” winning in the match race and that his real name is Shêtân ("devil"). After learning that the sheik is returning “The Black” to his kingdom in the Moroccan desert, Alec stows away on a plane to Casablanca.
In Morocco, Alec makes some friends who disguise him as a local. They take him to a man named Kurr (Allen Garfield), the leader of a rogue tribe called the Uruk, who is interested in “The Black” and Sheik Ishak. He allows Alec to travel with him and another man, but they abandon Alec in the desert after the truck breaks down. Alec is picked up by another truck driver. Aboard the truck, he meets Raj (Vincent Spano), who learned English from university. The two become friends and travel across the desert on foot with Meslar (Woody Strode), Raj's friend and mentor. Then the Uruk kidnap Meslar, and Raj and Alec must defend themselves against the harsh elements as their camel dies. After running out of water, they collapse but recover when they find a river.
Raj's tribe discovers them, welcoming Raj home and Alec to the tribe. Raj takes Alec to Ishak's domain, where he reunites with “The Black” but is apprehended by Ishak's men. He pleads his case to Sheik Ishak, who is sympathetic but will not give up the horse. He is racing the stallion in the "Great Race" with his granddaughter, Tabari (Jodi Thelen) as the rider. Alec insists “The Black” can only win if he rides him. Denied, Alec coaches Tabari, but “The Black” throws her off during practice. Then, the Uruk capture “The Black” and Alec, but the two escape. As they flee, Alec discovers that Meslar is being held prisoner and gives him his pocket knife to cut his bonds. Alec and “The Black” return to Ishak's. As a reward, Alec is allowed to ride him in the race.
On race day, Alec reunites with Raj, who is also competing. They and the other riders begin their run across the desert. The Uruk's rider tries to kill Alec, but he and “The Black” escape. Alec discovers that the Uruk's rider pushed Raj off his horse and returns Raj's mount to him. Together, they race against the Uruk rider until Meslar appears and spooks the rider's horse, unseating him. Suddenly, Kurr chases Raj and Alec in his truck, shooting at them. However, the truck crashes into a ditch.
Alec wins the race, then pleads with Ishak to spare Raj's horse, despite the winning sheik taking any horses he chooses. Ishak grants the reprieve, which allows Alec to repay Raj for his kindness. Meslar returns with Kurr, his accomplice, and the Uruk rider, who are all taken prisoner.
Although Ishak gives “The Black” back to Alec, he decides to leave his horse in Morocco, believing he belongs there. |
The Black Stallion Returns | Cast | Cast
Kelly Reno as Alec Ramsey
Vincent Spano as Raj
Allen Garfield as Kurr
Woody Strode as Meslar
Ferdy Mayne as Abu Ben Ishak
Jodi Thelen as Tabari
Teri Garr as Mrs. Ramsey, Alec's Mother
Hoyt Axton as The Narrator (voice)
Cass Ole / El Mokhtar as The Black
Larbi Doghmi as Arab |
The Black Stallion Returns | Production | Production
The filming locations for "The Black Stallion Returns" took place in Djanet, Algeria; Abiquiu, New Mexico; Italy; Morocco; Santa Clarita & Los Angeles, California; and New York City. The role of the Black Stallion was played by Cass Ole (who starred in the first film) and El Mokhtar, who was used in the racing scenes of the film, but he died from colic during the making of the film. |
The Black Stallion Returns | Reception | Reception |
The Black Stallion Returns | Box office | Box office
The Black Stallion Returns debuted at #5 at the box office, grossing $2,923,297 during its opening weekend, coming in behind the films High Road to China and Tootsie. The film grossed $12,049,108 at the North American box office. |
The Black Stallion Returns | Critical response | Critical response
Vincent Canby of The New York Times said the film was "funny, unpretentious and fast-paced. It has a kind of comicbook appreciation for direct action and no time whatsoever for mysticism or for scenery for its own sake, though most of it was shot in Morocco and is fun to look at". The Boston Globe called it a "slow-paced, incompetently directed film with both eyes focused on the box office". Variety magazine said, "The Black Stallion Returns is little more than a contrived, cornball story that most audiences will find to be an interminable bore". Roger Ebert complained about the film's stereotypical portrayal of Arab characters in his review, while noting that Allen Garfield was miscast. |
The Black Stallion Returns | Accolades | Accolades
Young Artist Awards
Best Young Motion Picture Actor in a Feature Film: Kelly Reno (nominated) |
The Black Stallion Returns | See also | See also
List of films about horses
List of films about horse racing
The Black Stallion books |
The Black Stallion Returns | References | References |
The Black Stallion Returns | External links | External links
Category:1983 films
Category:1980s adventure films
Category:American sequel films
Category:American Zoetrope films
Category:Films about horses
Category:Films based on American novels
Category:Films shot in Algeria
Category:Films produced by Fred Roos
Category:Films scored by Georges Delerue
Category:Films set in Morocco
Category:Films set in the 20th century
Category:Films set in 1947
Category:Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer films
Category:United Artists films
Category:1983 directorial debut films
Category:1980s English-language films
Category:English-language adventure films |
The Black Stallion Returns | Table of Content | Short description, Plot, Cast, Production, Reception, Box office, Critical response, Accolades, See also, References, External links |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Use dmy dates | Guaranteed is the ninth studio album by the British musical group Level 42, released in 1991, their first album of the 1990s. The album was released by RCA records and it was the first Level 42 studio album released by a label other than Polydor. |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Overview | Overview
Guaranteed was the first Level 42 album without a songwriting contribution from former member Boon Gould, who had contributed lyrics to some songs for the 1988 album Staring at the Sun following his departure from the band. Several songs were co-written with lyricists Drew Barfield and George M. Green. Guaranteed was also the first Level 42 album to be released following the death of guitarist Alan Murphy, who had taken over from Gould for Staring at the Sun and related tours.
The lineup credits for the album listed all of the musicians involved rather than clearly defining the separation between band and guest players. This reflected the ongoing personnel shifts within the band. All cover art and inlay photos implied that the band consisted of Mark King, Mike Lindup and Gary Husband plus a guitarist, but it was less clear on the latter's identity — inlay photos featured Allan Holdsworth while cover artwork featured Jakko Jakszyk. In practice Holdsworth, who had played with the band during its recent London residency at the Hammersmith Apollo, provided electric guitar solos to only five of the album's songs in the studio: "Seven Years", "A Kinder Eye", "She Can't Help Herself", "If You Were Mine" and "With a Little Love". Band associate Dominic Miller contributed all rhythm guitar work, as he had done for Staring at the Sun. Jakszyk (formerly with 64 Spoons and a top session guitarist) played no part in recording the album, but was hired for touring and promotional work, was featured in the album artwork and in the promotional video clips for "Guaranteed", "Overtime" and "My Father's Shoes".
Due to Lindup's absence from many of the sessions, a high proportion of the keyboard parts for Guaranteed were played by drummer Gary Husband (including the piano solo on "Her Big Day") although Lindup would later overdub solos. Husband would also expand his songwriting contribution, including writing the song "If You Were Mine" on his own. Husband would leave Level 42 following this album, to be replaced by the band's original drummer Phil Gould, although he would return to the band in 1999.
The album's title track reached number 17 in the UK Singles Chart in 1991 and had two versions of its music video produced. The song "A Kinder Eye" was dedicated to the memory of Frances Robblee, the mother-in-law of lyricist George M. Green. |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Track listing | Track listing
"Guaranteed" (Lindup, Husband, King, Badarou) – 4:51
"Overtime" (Lindup, King, Barfield) – 4:47
"Her Big Day" (Lindup, Husband, King, Barfield, Badarou) – 5:09
"Seven Years" (King) – 4:42
"Set Me Up" (Lindup, King, Barfield) – 4:28
"The Ape" (King, Green) – 4:17
"My Father's Shoes" (Lindup, King, Green, Badarou) – 5:14
"A Kinder Eye" (King, Green) – 5:45
"She Can't Help Herself" (Lindup, King, Barfield) – 5:00
"If You Were Mine" (Husband) – 5:01
"Lasso the Moon" (Lindup, Green) – 4:02
"With a Little Love" (Husband, King) – 4:07 |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Personnel | Personnel
Level 42
Mark King – vocals, bass
Mike Lindup – vocals, keyboards
Gary Husband – keyboards, drums, backing vocals
Additional musicians
Wally Badarou – keyboards, backing vocals
Dominic Miller – guitars
Jakko Jakszyk – guitars (live)
Allan Holdsworth – guitar solos (4, 8, 9, 10, 12)
Gary Barnacle – saxophones
John Thirkell – trumpets
Annie McCaig – backing vocals |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Production | Production
Level 42 – producers, recording
Wally Badarou – producer, recording
Tom Lord-Alge – mixing at The Hit Factory (New York City)
Paul Crockford – management
Phillippa Watson – management |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Charts | Charts
Album
Chart (1991) PeakpositionUK Albums Chart3
Singles
Year Song Chart Position1991"Guaranteed"UK Singles Chart171991"Overtime"UK Singles Chart621992"My Father's Shoes"UK Singles Chart55 |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | References | References
Category:1991 albums
Category:Level 42 albums
Category:Albums produced by Wally Badarou
Category:RCA Records albums |
Guaranteed (Level 42 album) | Table of Content | Use dmy dates, Overview, Track listing, Personnel, Production, Charts, References |
Steve Foley (defensive back) | Short description | Stephen James Foley (born November 11, 1953) is an American former professional football player who was a safety in the National Football League (NFL). He played his entire 11-year NFL career (1976–1986) with the Denver Broncos after one year (1975) with the Jacksonville Express of the World Football League.
As a member of the Orange Crush Defense, Foley played in the Super Bowl twice. He was a starter in Super Bowl XII against the Dallas Cowboys and played in Super Bowl XXI (his final game) against the New York Giants. The Broncos lost both of these games.
Foley scored two touchdowns in his career, both of which came in 1984. He returned a fumble 22 yards on October 15 against the Green Bay Packers and an interception 40 yards on December 15 against the Seattle Seahawks. These scores were key contributions to Broncos' victories. , his 44 career interceptions remains a franchise record.
Foley began his career as a quarterback, playing high school football at Jesuit High School of New Orleans and collegiately at Tulane University, before successfully converting to defensive back.
Foley's daughter, Natalie, was a gymnast at Stanford University from 2003 to 2006.
Foley's grandson plays soccer for the club Real Colorado and scored a banger with his left foot at the USYS U13 National Championship game on July 21, 2023. |
Steve Foley (defensive back) | External links | External links
NFL.com player page
Category:1953 births
Category:Living people
Category:Players of American football from New Orleans
Category:Jesuit High School (New Orleans) alumni
Category:American football safeties
Category:American football cornerbacks
Category:American football quarterbacks
Category:Tulane Green Wave football players
Category:Jacksonville Express players
Category:Denver Broncos players
Category:20th-century American sportsmen |
Steve Foley (defensive back) | Table of Content | Short description, External links |
File:Sound Navigation.jpg | Licensing | Licensing |
File:Sound Navigation.jpg | Rationale of fair use for [[MegaMan NT Warrior media and release information]] | Rationale of fair use for MegaMan NT Warrior media and release information
The image is of lower resolution than the original cover.
The image does not limit the copyright owners' rights to distribute the single in any way.
For an article about a film, the cover artwork is very important and adds significantly to the article.
This image is used on various websites, so its use on Wikipedia does not make it significantly more accessible than it already is.
The cover is being used for informational purposes only. |
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File:Mitsubishi i hello kitty.jpg | Summary | Summary |
File:Mitsubishi i hello kitty.jpg | Licensing | Licensing |
File:Mitsubishi i hello kitty.jpg | Fair use for [[Mitsubishi i]] | Fair use for Mitsubishi i
The image linked here is claimed to be used under fair use as:
the photo is only being used for informational purposes, in an article which specifically references the subject of the photo;
a free replacement would be very difficult to obtain, as it is a one-off custom car and was only exhibited for one week. |
File:Mitsubishi i hello kitty.jpg | Table of Content | Summary, Licensing, Fair use for [[Mitsubishi i]] |
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Notorious B.I.G. | <!--FAtop--> | The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted 23:04, 16 March 2007.
The Notorious B.I.G.
Well, it's about to be 10 years since he died, and to mark the occasion I am nominating The Notorious B.I.G.'s Wikipedia article for featured status! Here are some reasons why I hope you will support me:
Detailed and well written. Easy to follow along.
It's neutral and has links to statements of opinion people have made.
It is built entirely of verifiable information and is absolutely fully referenced. There's not a single missing citation.
Not too long, not too short. The intro is a good summary. A reasonable number of images, all of which are sourced.
Covers a very notable topic (a guy widely considered one of the greatest and most influential rappers of all time) and is an excellent source for anyone who wants to learn more about Biggie.
Those are my reasons. I think this is a really outstanding article, above all. I hope I will get others to agree with me. 2Pac 23:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
It looks good, but a couple questions before I support: 1) Is there a reason that I'm missing regarding referring to him as "Biggie" as opposed to "B.I.G." or "Wallace" or something else? I'm not sure if the nickname is really the best way to reference him, although I don't know much about general rap culture. 2) You note a biography in the "further reading" section - any reason why it wasn't used in the text? --badlydrawnjeff talk 18:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
#1 Because "Biggie" is a more simple 1-word pseudonym than just "B.I.G." and because it is a more specific and recognizable reference to himself than "Wallace". #2 The reference in the "futher reading" section is just for anyone who might want to find any additional info on Notorious, but that info might not really be imperative to include in the article. Oh yeah, and since I nominated it, Support 2Pac 21:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
In addition to 2Pac's points, Biggie was his original recording name and a name he referred to himself as throughout his career. According to MTV "Biggie" (or "Big") is his "most popular alias". I also thought it would read better than "The Notorious B.I.G." or "B.I.G.". 81.86.159.134 21:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Support as major contributor. Laalaaa 22:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Support For a well formed article. - !Malomeat 01:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment References #36 and #37 are broken.--Rmky87 05:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment ...as are references #5 and #41.--Rmky87 16:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Problem fixed, it was due to some unconstructive edit, I think. Hopefully it won't happen again. But now that's done, will you support please? 2Pac 19:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I don't know whether or not to support because I haven't really read the article.--Rmky87 22:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Support per Malomeat. Looks real good. Cliff smith 22:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Support Nice job. --mav 23:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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Jacksons Stores | Short description | Jacksons Stores Ltd, named after the founder William Jackson, was a British chain of 114 convenience shops in Yorkshire and the North Midlands that was founded in 1891 by the Hull-based William Jackson & Sons Ltd and sold to Sainsbury's in 2004, an acquisition which doubled that company's share of the convenience shop market. After the takeover by Sainsbury's, many Jacksons Stores were initially refurbished to trade under the Sainsbury's at Jacksons brand. This brand was phased out and replaced with the Sainsbury's Local brand by March 2008.
Shortly before the Sainsbury's acquisition the chain was voted Britain's best independent retail chain.
thumb|left|Jackson's, Newland Avenue, Kingston upon Hull (March 2005)
Sainsbury's acquisition of Jacksons Stores was part of a wider strategy to expand into the convenience sector. The deal was not subject to a competition inquiry due to the precedent of Tesco's T&S Stores acquisition; The Office of Fair Trading took the view that the convenience sector was distinct from the supermarket sector.
thumb|right|Jacksons, Ash Road, Headingley, Leeds (May 2006) |
Jacksons Stores | See also | See also
Sainsbury's
Bells Stores |
Jacksons Stores | References | References |
Jacksons Stores | External links | External links
Sainsbury's - Company website.
J Sainsbury plc: Our businesses
Category:Convenience stores
Category:Retail companies established in 1891
Category:Retail companies disestablished in 2008
Category:Defunct retail companies of the United Kingdom
Category:Sainsbury's |
Jacksons Stores | Table of Content | Short description, See also, References, External links |
Mike Mooney (American football) | Use mdy dates | Michael Paul Mooney (May 31, 1969 – March 2, 2007) was an American professional football player for the San Diego Chargers and Houston Oilers of the National Football League (NFL). He was selected by the Oilers in the fourth round of the 1992 NFL draft. Mooney, who played collegiately at Georgia Tech and appeared in one game for the Chargers as an offensive tackle. |
Mike Mooney (American football) | References | References |
Mike Mooney (American football) | External links | External links
Category:1969 births
Category:2007 deaths
Category:American football offensive tackles
Category:Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football players
Category:San Diego Chargers players
Category:Houston Oilers players
Category:Sportspeople from Westminster, California
Category:Players of American football from Baltimore
Category:20th-century American sportsmen |
Mike Mooney (American football) | Table of Content | Use mdy dates, References, External links |
File:AnitaMuiFinalConcert2.jpg | Fair use | Fair use |
File:AnitaMuiFinalConcert2.jpg | Summary | Summary
(Anita Mui, Anita Classic Moment Live) |
File:AnitaMuiFinalConcert2.jpg | Licensing | Licensing |
File:AnitaMuiFinalConcert2.jpg | Table of Content | Fair use, Summary, Licensing |
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The result was speedy close; procedural: previous nomination was closed hours ago. `'mikka 00:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Essjay controversy
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The rationale for ths afd nom is intentionaly kept short.
I believe this article fails to meet Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Avoid self-references in the context of "Human Knowledge". Such an article should either be trasnwikied to meta.wiki or deleted completely. -- Cat chi? 23:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps it might be better to transwiki this to either meta or wikinews. -- Cat chi? 00:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Please note that this article has a prior AfD that was closed less than 24 hours ago. —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 00:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Strong keep Disruptive nomination. Aren't there enough sources... , , , , - Denny 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Strong keep Previous AfD was closed less than 24 hours ago. Clearly enough sources to assert notability. Maxamegalon2000 00:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Just speedy close this one... per the fact that the other AfD was just closed and showed a clear lack of consensus for the deletion of this article. 00:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Speedy keep, relist in a week or so if necessary. This is too soon. —xyzzyn 00:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Speedy keep. Article has received massive media attention throughout the world, including national television coverage in the U.S. Mutiple sources are listed in article for every assertion. Meets any reasonable notability guideline and adheres fully to WP:BLP. Casey Abell 00:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 March 8/Articles | ed right | Articles
MartinLogan ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . — atchius (msg) 02:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Country Ghetto ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Chubbles 03:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Constitutional Court of Georgia ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . —dima/s-ko/ 04:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
C4con ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Vegaswikian 07:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
History of western civilization ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Xaxafrad 08:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Irish School of Ecumenics ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . --Czj 08:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
from MDCollins (talk) 11:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Gun-Galuut Nature Reserve ([ history] · [ last edit]) from Latebird 12:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Gun-Galuut Nature Reserve ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Nomination completed by DumbBOT 13:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Gary Klatt ([ history] · [ last edit]) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT 13:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
American Association for Laboratory Animal Science ([ history] · [ last edit]) from , and possibly others.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SandyGeorgia (talk • contribs).
Harold G. Long ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Muchness 18:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Tansy Davies ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Garion96 (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
A2LA ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 20:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
List of football (soccer) players with 100 or more caps ([ history] · [ last edit]) from , with some some wikitabling inserted. Chris cheese whine 22:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
This is not a copyright violation. This is a list of facts presented in their most obvious order. Just as a telephone book is not copyrightable (per Feist v. Rural), neither is this list. All of the elements that have any creative expression to them have been removed. howcheng {chat} 00:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
This is not a telephone book - that is slavish reproduction. Someone has gone to great lengths to collate this data, hence may claim copyright on the collection of information, and its presentation in that specific format. That certain elements have been removed does not make a difference, as specific revisions still exist in the history that make this a derivative work. I'm in favour of erring on the side of caution. Chris cheese whine 01:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I think I understand the problem now. I think in the UK there still exists a "sweat of the brow" copyright -- as you state, someone went to a lot of trouble to compile this information. That's true, but even so, they're still just facts. Read the case details in Feist v. Rural please, see the "Implications" section. Hopefully after that you'll understand why this is not a copyright violation. howcheng {chat} 03:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I did. It is you, not me, missing the details here. Clearly some editorial decisions were made, hence copyright subsists in the collection of data as a whole, which you have lifted. Chris cheese whine 04:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
No one can claim copyright in such a simple arrangement of basic public information. In any case rsssf exists solely and precisely to make football statistics widely available. Dominictimms 23:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
They can (and in fact do) claim copyright over the collection as a whole, formatted in that particular way, with the specific editorial decisions they have made as for format, clarifications, and what counts for inclusion. More than enough creativity there. Chris cheese whine 23:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
List of football (soccer) players with 30 or more international goals ([ history] · [ last edit]) - the other half of the same page. Chris cheese whine 01:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't look like a copyvio to me. It's a presentation of facts (not copyrightable) in their logical ordering (again, not copyrightable). The name of the list isn't exactly NPOV, though -- it presents itself as a complete list, but only includes male players. --Carnildo 02:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree. And it's good that the article cites the source, in case there was any question. — atchius (msg) 05:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
So do I. No one can have copyright in such a simple arrangement of readily available information. Anyone who wishes to publish such a list is free to do so. Futhermore, rsssf exists purely to make information widely available. Dominictimms 23:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Operation Wintergewitter (Winter Storm) - Italian Front ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . --Carnildo 23:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Monterosa Division ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . --Carnildo 23:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 March 8/Images | ed right | Images
:Image:Tuolsleng5.JPG ([ history] · [ last edit]) from original, non-free work of Vann Nath. —LX (talk, contribs) 00:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
: Image:Apj.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from rogerd 11:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Image:Emirate of Khaled image.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT 13:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Image:Matalintext.jpg. The tag claims that this image is in the public domain because it was produced by a public university, the University of Miami (in Florida). But this university is private. Even if it were a public university, I dont think we can simply assume the photo is public domain. The image description provides no other detail on a specific URL or other source information. 88.110.210.61 21:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Image:DSSaund.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Claimed to be gfdl, but source site's says: "The text materials contained in this Web site may be used, downloaded, reproduced or reprinted, provided that this copyright notice appears in all copies, and provided that such use is for non-commercial or personal use only. The text materials contained in this Web site may not be modified in any way."Abu badali (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
: Image:BruceCatton.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]). Site does not claim to own copyright to the image and the disclaimer of the site only talks about fair use anyway. --140.247.252.156 22:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Image:Conyers.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Abu badali (talk) 22:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Image:Chandrasekhar.gif ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . Tagged as "promotional", but nobelprize.org is not a source for promotional material. It's Legal Notice(pdf) states: "You may not reproduce, distribute, display, transmit, modify, perform, adapt, generate derivative works or otherwise use the Content without prior written permission (...)" . It even goes on to say specifically that the photos of the Laureates (as in this case) can't be copied without permission. Abu badali (talk) 22:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The tag has since been changed from to , but I still believe we don't have a good fair use rationale for taking an image from an website with an article about Mr. Chandrasekhar and using in our own website with an article about Mr. Chandrasekhar. Sounds competitive. (If I can see a good photo of Mr. Chandrasekhar in Wikipedia, why look into nobelprize.org's website?). --Abu badali (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Resolved; not a copyvio issue. If there is a fair use claim problem, this has to go through WP:IFD. Mangojuicetalk 12:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Request made by: Iamcuriousblue 00:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Where is the issue taking place?
User talk:Iamcuriousblue, Lesbianism in erotica, Monique Alexander, Sunrise Adams, Girl-girl, other pages
Who's involved?
User:Iamcuriousblue, User:Joie de Vivre
What's going on?
User:Joie de Vivre made changes to Lesbianism in erotica that I felt were inappropriate (as well as renaming the page) (see Talk:Lesbianism in erotica for details). Looking at JdV's page, I found that this was part of a larger campaign, '"Addressing racism and sexism" and then checked JdV's user contributions to see if similar inappropriate edits had been made to several other pages porn-related topics. I reverted several of these. Soon after, I begain receiving irate and abusive messages on my talk page. JdV then set about to revert ever disputed page except Lesbianism in erotica. I am very concered that
1) That this user has some very odd views on what constitutes racist, sexist, biphobic, or otherwise biased language. When this user fails to establish consensus about making such changes in the language of one article, he or she simply moves onto another article and makes the same disputed edits there.
2) That this user shows a great deal of hostility when challenged, using threatening language and engaging in retaliatory actions (which I feel he or she is engaging in toward me at the moment).
What would you like to change about that?
I would like the retaliatory actions against me to end. Also, I would like other sets of eyes on the articles that User:Joie de Vivre and I are disputing. Perhaps her edits are appropriate and mine are wrong, but it would be nice to have other people look at these edits to see if they're apropriate or not.
Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you? I prefer to air disputes openly. I can be reached at User talk:Iamcuriousblue.
Mediator response
OK, I'll take this case. The first thing I'm going to do is call for a 'cool down' session, and ask both parties to attempt to look at this entire situation with fresh, calm, eyes. I'd like both parties to send a statement of what they believe is going on to me by e-mail (using the link on my talk page). I will then post both statements here (this insures that neither statement will attempt to be a 'response' to the other). And see if I can't hash out a compromise. Does this suit both parties? --CaveatLectorTalk 23:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Since when am I a "her"? People love picking pronouns for me.
I don't understand what exactly is being mediated here. The dispute as to where Girl-girl ought to redirect reached an amicable consensus among many users. I haven't heard anything on the Talk pages of the other articles as to a problem. I feel like this is a vague mishmash of complaints and that all of them could be addressed at each article's Talk page. I wouldn't even know what to write in an email other than "this person doesn't seem to like me". Joie de Vivre 23:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Now that I look at the date for the request, this request is a bit old (almost a month). It seems it might have been in response to comments you left on her talk page. So are you saying that you two have already reached a compromise on these issues? CaveatLectorTalk 23:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
A comprimise over girl-girl was reached. On the other issues, JdV hasn't reverted any of my edits recently, so we haven't been in conflict. I still feel the earlier actions of this editor were extremely uncivil (see the comments on my talk page) and often retaliatory, but the problems seem to have let up for the time being. Iamcuriousblue 04:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Compromise offers
This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.
Discussion
I'm not a mediator but I have unsolicited opinion to offer. The Girl-girl redirect issue is resolved, but the conflict is not. These editors share some categorical specialties (notably in adult entertainment articles), and will collide in the future. At this time, they are simply (and sensibly) avoiding each other.
Both User talk:Iamcuriousblue and User:Joie de Vivre are good editors making valuable contributions to Wikipedia — it would be a shame to lose either of them. Both have very strong POV's, which is probably a good thing. However, both get prickly when confronted with opposing points of view, tending to assume bad motives in their perceived opponents.
Both editors have (in other interactions) worked in cooperation with other POV's, but for this to occur may require other editors to make the good faith outreach. JdV and curiousblue may (at this time) lack the tools to do this for each other. Even when they choose to use Wikipedia DR process, it seems like the (main?) intent is to bludgeon the other side.
During the somewhat troubled RfC, both parties compromised, so I see a lot of potential to get past this.
My ideal approach for these two — and this may be a fantasy — would be to have them collaborate on a controversial project as an exercise in the religious application of assuming good faith, neutral POV, civility, seeking consensus, avoiding personal attack, and probably a few other principles. By "religious" I mean keep doing it even when the other party seems to not be doing it; otherwise either party could scuttle the detente.
Obviously, both parties would have to be strongly interested in getting better at this stuff.
It would help to have a more experienced editor advising'' but not moderating — the accomplishment would belong to the parties involved, not to some sponsor. I'd offer to do it, but I'm no saint myself, and anyway I think both parties have reasons to question my neutrality. / edgarde 1750, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this is a really good idea. It is obvious that both these parties are valuable editors to Wikipedia, and it would be a shame to lose either of them. They will have to decide if this suggestion appeals to them. I will offer myself to be the 'advising' editor in this case if they wish. For now, though, I'll close the case. CaveatLectorTalk 20:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2007 March 6 | How many edges on a cone? | How many edges on a cone?
Ive typed the phrase "how many edges on a cone?" into google and gotten moderate success. I am wondering if anyone knew of a definitive answer and could they explain? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.162.95.164 (talk) 01:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
What do you mean edges? If you mean the edge as in where the slanted part tapers off to the circle, then it's one. If you mean how many tangent lines there are, it's infinite. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 03:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't there also be one at the peak? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
If you mean sharp angle changes on an infinite cone, the answer is zero. StuRat 12:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
But if you mean faces, wouldn't there be two? One on the bottom and one wrapped around the cone? --Theunicyclegirl 19:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2007 March 6 | coordinate geometry and permutation and combination | coordinate geometry and permutation and combination
i'm studying permutations and combinatorics for this entrance exam and i just thought of a really interesting(not sure if its feasible) problem:In a 3d orthogonal coordinate system, in how many ways could u move from a point(2,3,5) to a point(9,11,14)[(or in general from(x,y,z) to (x',y',z')]assuming that u could only move parallel to the coordinate axes and on integral points.Is there some sort of generalized algorithm to find the solution??59.183.42.170 18:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I will assume we are only allowing steps in positive directions, otherwise there are clearly infinitely many possible routes. In this case, we have to make a total of 7+8+9=24 steps, 7 in the x-direction, 8 in the y-direction and 9 in the z-direction. Hopefully it is obvious how to proceed; I won't say more in case this is homework. Algebraist 20:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
An inductive approach may prove fruitful. Consider a grid with vertices at integer points, label each vertex with the number of ways in which to reach the point (0,0) when moving down/left along grid lines. I've translated and reflected your grid to make things easier.
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1 - 3 - 6 -
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Continuing the numbers for a little bit and you will find a well know set of coefficients. (hint the guy who gave his name to pressure). The three dimensional case continues in a similar fashion and there is a less well know sequence which gives the numbers. --Salix alba (talk) 22:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
maybe Multinomial theorem will help you --Spoon! 00:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2007 March 6 | Best tactic in a gambling game | Best tactic in a gambling game
There is this game on line that my mother likes to play called Limbo. The idea is that everyone that plays picks a number between 1 and 99999 and whoever picks the lowest unique number (i.e. the the lowest number that only one person picked). What is the optimum strategy to play here? I haven't studied probability theory in years and years, but my gut tells me that you would have to use some sort of density function that plots what numbers people are expected to pick based on how many people are playing (so like f1000(x) would plot what numbers a 1000 people are expected to play and its definite integral would plot how many people have played below a certain number), and from that you could figure out the expected value. Or something. As I said, years and years, I'm probably completely off-base :) Can someone give my mother some pointers? Oskar 21:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey pal, I'm no mathematician but I believe the larger the number of participants, the larger you should pick your number. Perhaps the number that would give you the best probability of winning is a function of the number of participants. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.53.180.38 (talk) 22:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
f (2)=1 When there are only two players, pick the number 1.
f (3)=1 When there are 3 players, pick the number 1 because the other two players will pick the number 2. 202.168.50.40 22:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
For two players, as you say, picking 1 is a symmetric Nash equilibrium. If this leads to the players sharing the prize, the equilibrium is strict and also Pareto optimal, and thus can be expected to be stable against collusion. If nobody gets the prize, however, it is neither, and the players might be tempted to make a deal to let each other win on alternate turns, since they can only gain from doing so. As soon as either player deviates from always picking 1, however, the other player can gain a relative (though not absolute) advantage from reverting to the equilibrium strategy. Thus the strategy of picking 1 satisfies Maynard-Smith's second condition, and is therefore an evolutionarily stable strategy. In fact, the game is equivalent to a degenerate version of the Prisoner's dilemma with S = P.
For three players, however, picking 1 is not an equilibrium. Neither is picking 2 nor randomly picking 1 or 2. In fact, I haven't been able to find a symmetric Nash equilibrium for the three-player game, and I have a hunch that there might not be any, though I haven't managed to prove that so far. Of course, per Nash's theorem, there must be a (possibly asymmetric) equilibrium. For the case where prizes are not shared, one player picking 1 and the others picking any other number is indeed a Nash equilibrium; so is one player picking 2 and the others 1. Both are, however, not strict, and therefore unstable. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
What if there are 5000 players? Oskar 23:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I can't imagine you could figure it out without knowing what the particular people you're up against usually do. For instance, does anyone take 1, or are they too scared? Hard to say which it is without looking. If they don't, and you stepped in and started winning that way, would anyone sacrifice themselves to make your vote irrelevant by taking 1 as well? If they did, but paused first, could you time it right to sidestep the rush? Hard to guess at. One thing that makes it easier is that you don't mention anything about runners-up, so it doesn't matter how far down the distribution you are, only if you're at the very bottom of the pile. So, playing an extreme game, near the very very bottom, would be the most practical system, surely. If you play up near the top, or even the middle, you're gambling that every single other person in the game will play above that, which is almost certainly not going to happen with 5000 players. If you play low, you're only betting you won't land on anyone else, which has better (though still not very good) chances. Black Carrot 07:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
You know, the more I look at it, the worse a game it sounds. Since you suggest you might go to the work of setting working out a density function of some kind (which could only be found through empirical observation), consider keeping track of who wins. Is there a small group of people who win consistently whenever they're playing, or is it closer to random? If there is, ignore everyone else and focus on emulating and then beating that small group. If not, it's quite possible there's no way to significantly beat the odds. Keeping in mind, BTW, that the odds are roughly 5000 to 1. Black Carrot 07:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
This game is played on The Hits Television channel, they'll offer up a huge prize for the price that someone txts in that is the lowest unique price they recieved, and they would run it for a week or so. it'll be something like a £15000 car, and the person who wins will normally have guessed around the £2-10 mark. They ust get a huge number of entrants. In this kind of system, plenty of people will guess very low numbers. Capuchin 12:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd look at the winning numbers from the previous runs, and guess somewhat near (within 10%), but not extremely near (within 1%), those. If the prize is a bit more valuable than average, assume more entrants and guess higher, if the prize is a bit less valuable, guess lower. However, I'm not confident that this will increase your chances enough so it's actually worth the risk, this would require a large number of poor players and/or a very generous contest that isn't very profitable. StuRat 14:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
If this is a TV show, I'd assume that it's completely crooked if the prize has any real value. They'll not admit anyone has won until enough mugs have placed ripoff phone calls to generate the desired amount (this is clear from the "week or so" comment above), then just pick someone with a with a lowish bid at random.—86.132.234.51 18:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say that this is a pure math question. It looks much like an for mathematics untreatable game like poker, where knowledge about people is more important than statistics. Mr.K. (talk) 16:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not so sure about that. While individual human behavior can't be predicted mathematically, collective human behavior can be, using probability and statistics and things like the Black–Scholes formula. StuRat 17:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but this people are part of the statistics and the result of it. Considering that all the players have access to the stats you still don't know in what way to go. It look like a traffic jam situation. If you try to avoid the traffic jam that builds up direct after work, you can wait a couple of hours to drive home. But then you will stuck in the traffic jam of those that wait a couple of hours after work to drive home. Furthermore, modelling a process doesn't mean that you can predict it. The underlying math beneath Black–Scholes, the Brownian motion, is a way of modelling a random movement (=> non-deterministic, non-predictable) Mr.K. (talk) 21:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I would think that, if a mathematical study were done, we could predict the most likely winner for a given number of entries, just as we can predict whether a given poker hand is likely to be a winner, even considering that each of the other player's hands is unpredictable. The guesses for this game should fall into some general distribution (bell-shaped ?). Then there might be preferences for certain types of numbers, such as primes. Once we determine those type of things, we could come up with some rule, like finding the next prime number after the square root of the number of entries. StuRat 02:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2007 March 6 | Debt question | Debt question
I'm in debt a total of $9400 to all my credit cards. I have an offer from a debt consolodator that he will pay off all my credit cards and I would pay him back $200/month for 5 years for a total of $12,000 (however it could be more if i dont make my payments on time, but i dont think that will be a problem).
Consider this: my credit cards all have annual interest rates of about 17%. I'm not very good at math, but I'm able to do this much: 17% of $9400 devided by 12 months means about $133 of interest a month to start. Obviously, as the balance gets smaller, I will be paying less interest and more of my $200 would be going towards chipping away at the balance. Can someone show me how to do:
a) how long would it take me to pay it off on my own if i do $200/month and how much would i have paid by the end?
b) to what annual percentage rate is the $12,000 offer equivalent to?
c) and just out of curiosity, if i don't take the offer, how do i know how much of my $200 is going to interest and how much to paying off the balance after X number of months? there should be a simple formula for that?
Answer as many as you can and please don't just give me the answers, show me how its done with the formulas and stuff.
P.S. I might take the offer even if it's $12,000 is a little more than I'd pay otherwise, just because its less hassle than 8 credit cards. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.53.180.38 (talk) 22:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
For (a), I wrote a simple computer program to simulate a series of monthly payments. You could also do it with a spreadsheet. The core of the calculation is:
interest paid this month = principal remaining * (rate/12)
principal paid this month = payment - interest paid this month
principal remaining = principal remaining - principal paid this month
which represents one month's payment. Repeat the calculation until the principal drops below 0. Multiply the number of months by the amount you're paying each month to get approximately the total amount you're paying. (It won't be exact, because of rounding and because the final month's payment will be less than $200, but it gives a rough idea.)
For (b), you calculate the APR by dividing the interest paid by the amount you owe to get the total interest rate, then divide that by the number of years to get the annual percentage rate. Because of the wonders of compound interest and amortization, calculating the actual interest rate is much harder, but the actual interest rate is largely irrelevant.
For (c), see my answer to (a).
Hope this helps. --Carnildo 23:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
For (a), you can use Time value of money#Present value of an annuity. You want to pay off a present value of PVA = $9400, with an annuity of A = $200, and a rate of per month, and you solve for the number of periods n you have to pay. You get
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spoon! (talk • contribs) 01:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
I don't understand, why can't you do this using an excel spreadsheet? The monthly interest rate is either 0.17/12 or ((1.17)^(1/12) - 1 ). Thus either 1.416% per month or 1.31696% per month depending on how the monthly interest is calculated. Oh yes, you have to decided whether you want to pay at the start of the month (before the monthly interest is calculated) or pay at the end of the month (after the monthly interest is calculated).
Using 1.416% and excel spreadsheet, it shows you will finished paying it off yourself at the end of the 76th month. That's 6 years and four months at $200 per month. with $15200 (76 payments). 220.239.107.247 06:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Some other ways to pay less:
1) Get a low interest rate loan, such as a house mortgage, and use that to pay off the debt. You might also have a friend or relative who is willing to give you a low interest (or even no interest) loan.
2) Do the credit-card shuffle game, continuously moving the balance to new cards with low or no interest introductory periods. Be careful, though, as many have "gotchas", and will charge you huge interest rates retroactively if you are a day late on a payment, etc. Be sure to cancel the cards after the introductory period ends.
And, to keep from getting into trouble again, you need to avoid getting into debt for most items. There are only a few things that justify debt, in my opinion: education, because of it's high return on investment, a house, due to avoiding flushing rent down the toilet, a reliable car, if needed to get to work, and health care, if needed. And, in those cases, you should buy the minimum house and car you actually need, not a mansion and a Mercedes. Other things, like vacations, clothes, entertainment, appliances, electronics, and gifts, should never be financed. You can make due with cheaper versions of those things, skip them altogether, or wait until you can actually pay for them. For gifts, for example, instead of buying expensive presents, offer to clean their gutters for them. For vacation, drive to the zoo, museums, aquariums, etc., in your area instead of taking a cruise. For entertainment, watch free TV instead of cable or paying for concerts. Dine at home instead of at expensive restaurants. Buy only the clothes you actually need (no designer labels). Skip the cell phone. Play free online or downloadable video games instead of buying games. Then, once you've paid off your debt and can actually afford a few of life's luxuries, that's the time to buy them (while still saving some money for the future and retirement). I'm sorry if you're a financially responsible person who got into debt for a legit reason, like medical bills, but I went with the odds and assumed you're as financially irresponsible as most people. StuRat 14:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I think too many people are treating this as a math question and not a finance question. There are a number of places you can turn to get the rates reduced on your credit cards. I believe the law states that the people who negotiate with the companies must be non profit but you still should be careful.
I had a very poor, very old friend who gave me a power of attorney so I could tell the credit card companies to leave her alone. I basically told them they were not going to get a single dime from her and it wasn't worth forcing her into bankruptcy because there was no money. They might have been able to reposess a few dresses but she didn't even have enough social security money to pay her rent. I wasn't going to negotiate because there was nothing to negotiate about. However, a number of the companies were willing to cut the rates significantly and some of them would even cut the amount that she owed. I don't remember the details.
My point is that you should talk to various professionals and get their advice. It should be free. |
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Na 'Hes Kardia | More citations needed | Na 'hes Kardia (; ) is the sixth album by Greek singer Anna Vissi. Released in 1984, it was her first album under CBS Greece. It featured 12 laika songs, all written by then-husband Nikos Karvelas. Lyricists of the album were Karvelas, Vissi herself and Sarantis Alivizatos. The ballad "Kai Eho Tosa Na Thimame" (And I have so much to remember) is considered the most durable hit off the album, still gaining airplay in Greek radio stations and being a standard of most of Vissi's shows. The orchestra was conducted by Nikos Lavranos. In the course of years, the album reached Gold status. It was first released on CD in 1992 as a joint package with 1985's album Kati Simveni. In 1997, a separate, stand-alone edition was released.
In 2019, the album was selected for inclusion in the Panik Gold box set The Legendary Recordings 1982-2019. The release came after Panik's acquisition rights of Vissi's back catalogue from her previous record company Sony Music Greece. This box set was printed on a limited edition of 500 copies containing CD releases of all of her albums from 1982 to 2019 plus unreleased material. |
Na 'Hes Kardia | Track listing | Track listing
"Zoi Na Ehoume" (Cheers to our lives)
"Ime I Anna" (I am Anna)
"Ela" (Come)
"Na Tan Mia Nihta I Zoi" (Wish life would last a night time)
"Diki Sou" (I'm yours)
"Ke Eho Tosa Na Thimame" (I have so much to remember)
"Anthropino To Lathos Mou" (My mistake is human)
"Mono Yia Senane" (Only for you)
"M' Agapouse Pou Les" (So, he used to love me)
"Na'Hes Kardia" (If you had a heart)
"Mi Me Rotas" (Don't ask me)
"Kalitera Na Poume Antio" (It's better to say goodbye) |
Na 'Hes Kardia | Credits and personnel | Credits and personnel
Personnel
Yiannis Bithikotsis - bouzouki
Yiannis Ioannou - accordion
Charalambos Laskarakis - guitars
Giorgos Lavranos - drums, percussion
Yiannis Piliouris - backing vocals
Lia Piliouris - backing vocals
Yiannis Saroglou - bass
Philippos Tsemberoulis - flute, clarinet, saxophone
Lefteris Zervas - violin
Sarantis Alivizatos - lyrics
Nikos Karvelas - music, lyrics
Anna Vissi - vocals, lyrics
Production
Nikos Karvelas/Sony Music - production management
Nikos Lavranos - arrangements
Charalambos Mpiris - recording engineer at Studio SIERRA
Design
Alinda Mavrogenis - photos
Studio 31 - cover
Credits adapted from the album's liner notes. |
Na 'Hes Kardia | Music | Music
Music and lyrics are by Nikos Karvelas. Also Anna Vissi and Sarantis Alivizatos contributed to some lyrics. |
Na 'Hes Kardia | References | References
Category:Anna Vissi albums
Category:1984 albums
Category:1980s Greek-language albums
Category:Sony Music Greece albums
Category:Albums produced by Nikos Karvelas |
Na 'Hes Kardia | Table of Content | More citations needed, Track listing, Credits and personnel, Music, References |
Santiago Library System | Multiple issues | The Santiago Library System (SLS) is a state-funded network of nine public library jurisdictions and two associate member libraries in Orange County, California. The system seeks "to promote cooperation and coordination of library collections and services so as to meet the informational, educational, cultural and recreational needs of all residents of the Orange County area." |
Santiago Library System | History | History |
Santiago Library System | First 40 years | First 40 years
On October 14, 1969, the Orange County Cooperative Library System was formed. Twenty years later on December 29, 1989, the Orange County Cooperative Library System was converted into a California Library Services Act agency and renamed the Santiago Library System.
The SLS was a cooperative arrangement designed to maximize resources by providing programs and services jointly where it is mutually beneficial to the local population.
An important SLS role was facilitating the sharing of local collections by providing delivery of materials among the nine member libraries. The System enhanced the reference capabilities of these libraries by furnishing additional resources and expertise when needed to meet patrons' requests. SLS presented workshops, arranged staff training programs, and aided in the development of additional reference tools and services. |
Santiago Library System | Dissolution | Dissolution
On July 1, 2009, SLS and the Metropolitan Cooperative Library System (MCLS) of Los Angeles County were combined and renamed the Southern California Library Cooperative (SCLC). The web site lists staff directories, committee meeting dates, publications, useful links and upcoming workshops. The Reference Center, with offices at the Central Library of the Los Angeles Public Library, provides member libraries with second-level reference support services. |
Santiago Library System | Restoration | Restoration
On June 30, 2013, the former SLS members withdrew from SCLC and reestablished SLS. The Huntington Beach Public Library and the Orange County Public Law Library joined SLS as associate members.
The reconstituted SLS seeks "to promote cooperation and coordination of library collections and services so as to meet the informational, educational, cultural and recreational needs of all residents of the Orange County area." |
Santiago Library System | Members | Members
The nine original members of SLS also joined the reconstituted SLS:
Anaheim Public Library
Buena Park Library District
Fullerton Public Library
Mission Viejo Public Library
Newport Beach Public Library
Orange County Public Libraries (county library system)
Orange Public Library (city library)
Placentia Library District
Santa Ana Public Library
Yorba Linda Public Library
Upon its reestablishment in 2013, SLS gained two associate member libraries:
Huntington Beach Public Library
Orange County Public Law Library |
Santiago Library System | References | References |
Santiago Library System | External links | External links
Santiago Library System
Southern California Library Cooperative |
Santiago Library System | Member libraries | Member libraries
Anaheim Public Library
Buena Park Library District
Fullerton Public Library
Huntington Beach Public Library
Mission Viejo Public Library
Newport Beach Public Library
Orange County Public Libraries
Orange Public Library
Placentia Library District
Yorba Linda Library |
Santiago Library System | Associate member libraries | Associate member libraries
Santa Ana Public Library
Orange County Public Law Library |
Santiago Library System | Non-member public library in Orange County | Non-member public library in Orange County
Category:Public libraries in California
Category:Libraries in Orange County, California |
Santiago Library System | Table of Content | Multiple issues, History, First 40 years, Dissolution, Restoration, Members, References, External links, Member libraries, Associate member libraries, Non-member public library in Orange County |
28 Gun Bad Boy | Use dmy dates | 28 Gun Bad Boy is the third album by house music and drum and bass pioneer A Guy Called Gerald, released in 1993 through his own Juice Box Records imprint. The album is often credited as one of the first full-length drum and bass albums, and its influence has been noted to have "brought the jungle movement out of the rave era." The track "28 Gun Bad Boy" is seen as one of the first examples of drum and bass/oldschool jungle music. |
28 Gun Bad Boy | Production | Production
The album was produced at the Machine Room Studio, a recording studio in the city centre of Manchester. Electronic equipment used for the album's production include two Akai S950 samplers, an Akai MPC60 sequencer, Soundtracs Quartz 32-channel in-line mixing desk, Atari tape machine, Lexicon reverb, Lexicon delay, two Yamaha SBX90s, microphones, and an Atari ST running Cubase. "Disneyband" also used the sounds of a Roland JD-800 digital synthesizer.The Classic Album: A Guy Called Gerald - 28 Gun Bad Boy, Future Music, FM230, September 2010, page 20 According to Simpson, the album's sound was the result of him attempting to progress from his early style as well as the Rave scene of the early 1990s.
The central concept behind the album was to be produced similar to that of a mixtape, which has been inspired by live DJ sets according to Simpson. The album was released through Juice Box Records, an independent label ran by Simpson as a result of his strained relationship with Sony Music, more specifically, their refusal to release Simpson's High Life, Low Profile album which was recorded in 1991 as the follow-up to Automanikk. |
28 Gun Bad Boy | Track listing | Track listing |
28 Gun Bad Boy | References | References
Category:1992 albums
Category:A Guy Called Gerald albums |
28 Gun Bad Boy | Table of Content | Use dmy dates, Production, Track listing, References |
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Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 6 | Kubrick's "The Killing": First film to use synchronic (simultaneous) flashbacks? | Kubrick's "The Killing": First film to use synchronic (simultaneous) flashbacks?
Greetings;
I'm trying to determine whether "The Killing" (from 1956) is the first major film to use synchronic flashbacks. In other words, flashbacks that show two (or more) different views of the same event, rather than simply flashing back to different events (a la "Citizen Kane").
On the IMDB message board for this film, someone made the claim that this is the first movie to use that sort of nonlinear structure, but not surprisingly, the thread quickly deteriorated into name-calling before any definitive answer was given.
Thanks
71.234.116.35 00:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Art
I'm not familiar with the term "synchronic flashbacks", but by your definition wouldn't Rashomon (film) (1950) qualify? --Mathew5000 01:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I got the term "synchronic" from the IMDB message boards, so I don't know if that's a "technically" correct term, or if there's a better one. But I think we both know what we're talking about: movies where we repeatedly see the same event from different points of view.
Superficially, Rashomon would seem to fit the description, but I would exclude it for three reasons: First (most importantly), the four "flashbacks" are all completely different (this is, of course, the main point of the movie). So while technically they're depicting the same event, it's only "the same" in the very broadest sense, and we (the viewer) never actually see the same thing happen twice, the way we do in The Killing.
Second, the four "flashbacks" in Rashomon are all told to us by characters in the movie, so we're seeing the "truth" once-removed (filtered through each character's perceptions), rather than "the absolute truth" as presented by the all-seeing camera. Again, the main point of the film.
Finally (this is more arguable), it seems to me that that Rashomon is intended to be more of a parable than a literal depiction of an event from four different viewpoints, because the four depictions are so completely different. I once read a great comment on Amazon that indicated that Rashomon was intended as a parable for World War II, which made a lot of sense. But literary analysis aside, the fact that it doesn't actually depict the same literal events would seem to disqualify it.
71.234.116.35 06:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC) Art
That's not how I remember it. --Kainaw (talk) 15:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 6 | song | song
what is the title of the song by the beach boys that goes something like this : key largo, montigo, baby why dont we go down to coco moe, we'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow
I'll save you the exhausting effort of looking at the Beach Boys article by telling you it's Kokomo (song). Anchoress 01:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Saucer of milk? --Nélson Ricardo 03:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 6 | Paying It Forward movie | Paying It Forward movie
In "Paying It Forward" movie, where did the movie shhot inand I mean the place where it was a desert where the boy was travelling with his bike on? is it Nevada or California? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.14.116.213 (talk) 02:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
I believe Nevada, if I recall correctly, Helen Hunt's character was a waitress at a casino. Cyraan 03:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
The film, Pay It Forward, was primarily shot in Las Vegas, Nevada with some other locations for some scenes. See IMDB. The scene on the bridge was shot in Portland, Oregon and something was shot on Broadway in downtown Los Angeles, both of which are not likely locations for the scene you're talking about. - Mgm|(talk) 10:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 6 | New Orleans Essence Music Festival | New Orleans Essence Music Festival
I don't know where to go with this question, but could someone make an article on the New Orleans Essence Music Festival? http://www.essence.com/essence/emf/ - I'm not the wiki-creating/editing type! 204.90.50.252 14:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)Robert
The best place for such a request is HERE. Anchoress 14:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Articles on music festivals in general seem sadly lacking -- I've created a few folk fest pages recently, but wonder if there's a project in it. Anyone? Do we ask for such a project in the same place? Jfarber 18:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 6 | PLEASE HELP WITH MY MOVIE QUESTION!!!!!! | PLEASE HELP WITH MY MOVIE QUESTION!!!!!!
on the midnight movie article there is a lnk at the bottom of the screen but
> when you click it it says no such site???? i tred looking up midnightmoves.com
> and .net but cant find anything i am trying to find a release date for the dvd
> night of the living dead 3d but i can not find it anywhere so i figured if i
> contacted the company who released it they would know.. but your link does not
> work please help..
I couldn't find it at the official(?) site. Try contacting them there. Clarityfiend 23:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
It has no DVD release date yet. They're still milking international theater money off the thing. --Kainaw (talk) 00:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
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