The idea is to buy purposefully. Ten million families, $200 a week.

Start with cheese. Instead of Kraft American singles, it’s Tillamook, Cabot, or Vermont Brand. Kraft string cheese, Philadelphia Cream cheese and salad dressings are fine.

Better food, made locally is in. Sadly, this means Oscar Mayer, Deli Fresh, and Lunchables are out.

The blue state diet features lots of wine, from California, Oregon, Washington, and New York. Wine and brandy are substituted where possible for beer and whisky.

The healthiest part of the blue state diet are all the fresh green vegetables. Locally grown potatoes and corn. Avoid soybean oil.

With beer, make it a Sam Adams or a Sierra Nevada. If it’s wine, make it Barefoot, Cupcake, Franzia, Robert Mondavi, Clos du Bois, Sutter Home, King Estate, Willamette, Chateau St.Michelle, Columbia Crest, Wagner Vinyards, to name some.

It’s Ben & Jerry’s, or your local creamery is in.

Here’s to the “blue state cookbook” lifestyle

The idea is to buy purposefully. Ten million families, $200 a week.

Start with cheese. Instead of Kraft American singles, it’s Tillamook, Cabot, or Vermont Brand. Kraft string cheese, Philadelphia Cream cheese and salad dressings are fine.

Better food, made locally is in. Sadly, this means Oscar Mayer, Deli Fresh, and Lunchables are out.

The blue state diet features lots of wine, from California, Oregon, Washington, and New York. Wine and brandy are substituted where possible for beer and whisky.

The healthiest part of the blue state diet are all the fresh green vegetables. Locally grown potatoes and corn. Avoid soybean oil.

With beer, make it a Sam Adams or a Sierra Nevada. If it’s wine, make it Barefoot, Cupcake, Franzia, Robert Mondavi, Clos du Bois, Sutter Home, King Estate, Willamette, Chateau St.Michelle, Columbia Crest, Wagner Vinyards, to name some.

It’s Ben &amp; Jerry’s, or your local creamery is in.


“She Was a High School Student and There Were Witnesses.” | The fight to release a damning House Ethics report about allegations that Matt Gaetz—Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general—had sex with a 17-year-old girl has begun.


As many people have documented, I have also noticed that not only gun clubs, but bodybuilding gyms, CrossFit & MMA gyms, the “preparedness” community all skew right.

You see posters like “don’t tread on me” .. “Jiu Jitsu - for when you run out of ammo” and other right wing slogans / flags all over.

Right wing people tend to be motivated by fear. Always thinking “what if”.

So what activities host people that skew left?

What spaces / activities skew left?

As many people have documented, I have also noticed that not only gun clubs, but bodybuilding gyms, CrossFit &amp; MMA gyms, the “preparedness” community all skew right.

You see posters like “don’t tread on me” .. “Jiu Jitsu - for when you run out of ammo” and other right wing slogans / flags all over.

Right wing people tend to be motivated by fear. Always thinking “what if”.

So what activities host people that skew left?


Hey all,

Somewhat an advice question. My GF who grew up with wealthy parents, keeps saying she’s a “registered Republican” even though whenever I poke and prod she does not have any Republican views. Her logic is primarily “feels more comfortable for her”. This especially true considering her wealthy dad, mom, and brother are MAGA.

Clearly we’re not going to break up because we have values that are aligned. Even politically she didn’t vote for Trump for example. How do I best navigate the situation?

GF says she’s a Republican but does not have any Republican views


THEORY: Trump knows that he is dying soon. Whether it be tertiary neurosyphilis, an increasing number of micro-strokes inevitably leading to the big one, or something else— he is filled with the power of his imminent mortality.

His actions are emulating Hitler’s “Zerstörungsmaßnahmen auf dem Reichsgebiet”. The Nero Decrees. His own personal Götterdämmerung. If he can’t have it, no one will. It’s the last act of his personal vanity. Emulating Milton‘s Lucifer, he would rather reign in Hell. Emulating Shakespeare’s Richard III he would then be the villain. The destruction of America is his assurance of a place in history. For a narcissist like him it’s better to be remembered as the monster than the fool.

Götterdämmerung


I'm incredibly disappointed by the results of the election.

This was my second ever presidential election in which I was allowed to vote, and it's incredibly upsetting that Trump has won, for so many reasons. I've always believed in the rights of women, the LGBT community, and am atheistic. And while l'd say I have a better understanding of things than I did four years ago. I've followed the democratic party innately, doing little to inform myself of the values and policies of really the definition of what it means to be one. After the results of the election, I can't do that anymore. I need to defend what I believe in now more than ever. And that means knowing more about both parties

TLDR; if anyone has the time, please let me know what I should do/say to best represent the Democratic Party for the next 4 years

Help me be a better Liberal

I&#39;m incredibly disappointed by the results of the election.

This was my second ever presidential election in which I was allowed to vote, and it&#39;s incredibly upsetting that Trump has won, for so many reasons. I&#39;ve always believed in the rights of women, the LGBT community, and am atheistic. And while l&#39;d say I have a better understanding of things than I did four years ago. I&#39;ve followed the democratic party innately, doing little to inform myself of the values and policies of really the definition of what it means to be one. After the results of the election, I can&#39;t do that anymore. I need to defend what I believe in now more than ever. And that means knowing more about both parties

TLDR; if anyone has the time, please let me know what I should do/say to best represent the Democratic Party for the next 4 years


Nothing to see here, keep moving, keep moving

Gaetz Resigns From House Before Ethics Report Can Be Released


OK, I'm not  lever enough. Someone out there needs to come up with Trump Administration Bingo - only square I know for sure I'd put on the board is Trump Breaks Up With Elon.

Trump Administration Bingo

OK, I&#39;m not  lever enough. Someone out there needs to come up with Trump Administration Bingo - only square I know for sure I&#39;d put on the board is Trump Breaks Up With Elon.


Woman testified to House Ethics Committee that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17


Our military is in trouble. Please, G#d, protect all of our sons, daughters, Mothers and Fathers, brothers and sisters and everyone in between from Natzi loving white supremists.

Trump taps Fox News host Pete Hegseth for defense secretary


Seriously, we know Donald Trump can't even walk down stairs right now, so the attempt at shock and awe isn't his idea.

Someone Take Away Steve Bannon's Copy of *The Prince*

Seriously, we know Donald Trump can&#39;t even walk down stairs right now, so the attempt at shock and awe isn&#39;t his idea.


I'm (39F) honestly dreading Thanksgiving & Christmas (I have to host). My parents (70s M/F) and sister (30F) are all republican and my sister has recently gotten pretty hardcore (heartbreaking tbh - I don't recognize her)... I asked for advice in another thread and ended up getting a lot of "put family above politics" type responses which I found to be completely unhelpful. To anyone else having the same issues in their family, I found a good resource from SPLC. I've decided that I will have a zero tolerance policy in my home for racism (casual or overt), homophobic, transphobic, anti-immigrant, misogynistic comments, etc. If I hear it in my home, I will call it out and politely ask them to leave. And if I hear it in their homes, I will tell them I'm uncomfortable with those kind of comments and politely leave. I don't care if they're family... We vote our values and believe their ideology is dangerous. At best, they're putting their party over the safety and health of the most vulnerable in society. At worst, they're actively encourating policies that are going to hurt a lot of people. They aren't just "opinions" - these policies have real life consequences. It's not "overreacting" to divest from racists, bigots, and misogynists. Hope this can help someone else here. [https://www.splcenter.org/20150125/speak-responding-everyday-bigotry#family](https://www.splcenter.org/20150125/speak-responding-everyday-bigotry#family)

If anyone has additional helpful resources - I'd appreciate you sharing! Good luck this holiday season!

Anyone struggling with relatives over the holidays?

I&#39;m (39F) honestly dreading Thanksgiving &amp; Christmas (I have to host). My parents (70s M/F) and sister (30F) are all republican and my sister has recently gotten pretty hardcore (heartbreaking tbh - I don&#39;t recognize her)... I asked for advice in another thread and ended up getting a lot of &quot;put family above politics&quot; type responses which I found to be completely unhelpful. To anyone else having the same issues in their family, I found a good resource from SPLC. I&#39;ve decided that I will have a zero tolerance policy in my home for racism (casual or overt), homophobic, transphobic, anti-immigrant, misogynistic comments, etc. If I hear it in my home, I will call it out and politely ask them to leave. And if I hear it in their homes, I will tell them I&#39;m uncomfortable with those kind of comments and politely leave. I don&#39;t care if they&#39;re family... We vote our values and believe their ideology is dangerous. At best, they&#39;re putting their party over the safety and health of the most vulnerable in society. At worst, they&#39;re actively encourating policies that are going to hurt a lot of people. They aren&#39;t just &quot;opinions&quot; - these policies have real life consequences. It&#39;s not &quot;overreacting&quot; to divest from racists, bigots, and misogynists. Hope this can help someone else here. https://www.splcenter.org/20150125/speak-responding-everyday-bigotry#family

If anyone has additional helpful resources - I&#39;d appreciate you sharing! Good luck this holiday season!


I am having difficulty posting an idea I had here.  It doesn't violate any of the rules.

just some ideas I had for expanding the conversation. I am reluctant to say more as this post will also be removed and I get no feedback.

Liberal means FREEDOM.  It means freedom of Thought and action.

why am I unable to start a discussion about how to start a discussion and how to rebuild for the holidays?

What is your idea of Liberal Values?

I am having difficulty posting an idea I had here.  It doesn&#39;t violate any of the rules.

just some ideas I had for expanding the conversation. I am reluctant to say more as this post will also be removed and I get no feedback.

Liberal means FREEDOM.  It means freedom of Thought and action.

why am I unable to start a discussion about how to start a discussion and how to rebuild for the holidays?


We all know how Trump likes to be at the throats of people close to him if they ever “fall out of line” meaning disagree

How long until Elon musk and Trump have a fall out?


Anyone else feel like their life is in limbo? I'm the one who plans and sets goals. I have a tiny shred of hope left so I'm holding out until the actual inauguration.

 Under Trump everything will get worse. (I'm not arguing this point in the comments. I will just ignore you)

I don't know whether to buy a canner and start canning everything and stocking up or start downsizing and saving to move out the country.  I think since I live in a safe state I'll be ok and should just stock up.

The future just seems more uncertain than it ever has before in my 40 years of life.

Life in limbo

Anyone else feel like their life is in limbo? I&#39;m the one who plans and sets goals. I have a tiny shred of hope left so I&#39;m holding out until the actual inauguration.

Under Trump everything will get worse. (I&#39;m not arguing this point in the comments. I will just ignore you)

I don&#39;t know whether to buy a canner and start canning everything and stocking up or start downsizing and saving to move out the country.  I think since I live in a safe state I&#39;ll be ok and should just stock up.

The future just seems more uncertain than it ever has before in my 40 years of life.


I’m being dead fucking serious. Perhaps it was my naïveté, but if you had asked me last Monday, I didn’t think we would be here. I gave the American people way too much credit. But we’re here, and the horrors have already started at an alarming rate.

I am posting this from the perspective of someone who grew up Republican and was a Republican staffer on the Hill. I’ve spent time in these spaces. Long story short- it was a long conversion process, but I went from an old school Romney/McCain type to someone who is comfortably just as leftist as AOC. However, that journey has brought me to a place where I’m increasingly infuriated that the Dems don’t seem to fully understand their enemy, nor have they demonstrated the grit needed in a moment like this.

I truly believe we are at a critical moment where the coming months could decide our fate for the rest of our lives. That fat orange fuck has vowed to reshape our country into something none of us would recognize. AND YET- Kamala conceded with barely a peep (despite some actual concerning anomalies imo), Biden is teeheeing with tangerine Hitler in the Oval Office, Warren is TWEETING about how Ol’ Donny Boy broke the law again (he’s a felon??? That’s what criminals do??? HELLO??) and NO ONE seems to be calling for the type of drastic action or leadership that is needed right now. The Republicans are stabbing us to death, and the Dems are handwringing about whether it’s ethical to punch back because “we don’t want to be like them.”

Which brings me to this: if we are to survive, if our home is to survive, we need to somehow find the means to start fighting dirty. And I’m dead fucking serious when I say we actually need a blue MAGA movement. A blue tea party movement. Activists and candidates who are populist, loud, and willing to throw every fucking dirty trick the Republicans have done over the last decade *right back in their faces.*

I’m talking candidates who insult their opponents and attack establishment Dems on a level not yet seen before. Activists who go to elected official offices with the pure intent of creating click bait content to feed our base. Podcasters who make that little Shitler Nick Fuentes and that bald idiot Rogan look tame. A multi prong, ruthless approach, with the end goal of making the Dems cower like the MAGA fuckers cucked the Republicans. And none of this fucking infighting- everyone falls in line. Everyone supports the movement. If you don’t, you’re fair game too.

Our country, *our home* is in danger. We need to organize and act accordingly. We need to be as ruthless and dirty and cutthroat as the Republicans have been for years. Fuck your moral high ground. Fuck your norms. If you don’t have the stomach for war, then get the fuck out of our way. Is anyone else with me?

We need to *actually* create Blue MAGA.

I’m being dead fucking serious. Perhaps it was my naïveté, but if you had asked me last Monday, I didn’t think we would be here. I gave the American people way too much credit. But we’re here, and the horrors have already started at an alarming rate.

I am posting this from the perspective of someone who grew up Republican and was a Republican staffer on the Hill. I’ve spent time in these spaces. Long story short- it was a long conversion process, but I went from an old school Romney/McCain type to someone who is comfortably just as leftist as AOC. However, that journey has brought me to a place where I’m increasingly infuriated that the Dems don’t seem to fully understand their enemy, nor have they demonstrated the grit needed in a moment like this.

I truly believe we are at a critical moment where the coming months could decide our fate for the rest of our lives. That fat orange fuck has vowed to reshape our country into something none of us would recognize. AND YET- Kamala conceded with barely a peep (despite some actual concerning anomalies imo), Biden is teeheeing with tangerine Hitler in the Oval Office, Warren is TWEETING about how Ol’ Donny Boy broke the law again (he’s a felon??? That’s what criminals do??? HELLO??) and NO ONE seems to be calling for the type of drastic action or leadership that is needed right now. The Republicans are stabbing us to death, and the Dems are handwringing about whether it’s ethical to punch back because “we don’t want to be like them.”

Which brings me to this: if we are to survive, if our home is to survive, we need to somehow find the means to start fighting dirty. And I’m dead fucking serious when I say we actually need a blue MAGA movement. A blue tea party movement. Activists and candidates who are populist, loud, and willing to throw every fucking dirty trick the Republicans have done over the last decade right back in their faces.

I’m talking candidates who insult their opponents and attack establishment Dems on a level not yet seen before. Activists who go to elected official offices with the pure intent of creating click bait content to feed our base. Podcasters who make that little Shitler Nick Fuentes and that bald idiot Rogan look tame. A multi prong, ruthless approach, with the end goal of making the Dems cower like the MAGA fuckers cucked the Republicans. And none of this fucking infighting- everyone falls in line. Everyone supports the movement. If you don’t, you’re fair game too.

Our country, our home is in danger. We need to organize and act accordingly. We need to be as ruthless and dirty and cutthroat as the Republicans have been for years. Fuck your moral high ground. Fuck your norms. If you don’t have the stomach for war, then get the fuck out of our way. Is anyone else with me?


Looks like there is no stop to them like 2020 where house and senate were still democrats. This time it's feels more like a doom.

Republicans won the house majority and have secured the power, what will happen?

Looks like there is no stop to them like 2020 where house and senate were still democrats. This time it&#39;s feels more like a doom.


Ok. This might be unpopular but everyone has someone to blame for the election: I feel like if the Dems paid more attention to youtube (other than their constant annoying ads) they wouldn't realized there are TONS of P Diddy videos rn.  A LOT of shade is  being thrown at Beyonce, JayZ, and especially JLo. So I wouldve avoided them, esp JLo (people hated JLo this year.)

And sorry, but yeah, they shoulda paid more attention to Podcasters like Joe Rogan. He actually complimented Kamala at one point. That was kinda huge & they shit on it by refusing to go to his podcast.

And for people who wanna say "People shouldn't vote based off youtube." That's exactly the problem. You don't get to tell people what they SHOULD base their vote off of.  Some people see one random clip and decide "Eh, I'll vote for that one."  Just because. 🤷♀

The election & my youtube theory.

Ok. This might be unpopular but everyone has someone to blame for the election: I feel like if the Dems paid more attention to youtube (other than their constant annoying ads) they wouldn&#39;t realized there are TONS of P Diddy videos rn.  A LOT of shade is  being thrown at Beyonce, JayZ, and especially JLo. So I wouldve avoided them, esp JLo (people hated JLo this year.)

And sorry, but yeah, they shoulda paid more attention to Podcasters like Joe Rogan. He actually complimented Kamala at one point. That was kinda huge &amp; they shit on it by refusing to go to his podcast.

And for people who wanna say &quot;People shouldn&#39;t vote based off youtube.&quot; That&#39;s exactly the problem. You don&#39;t get to tell people what they SHOULD base their vote off of.  Some people see one random clip and decide &quot;Eh, I&#39;ll vote for that one.&quot;  Just because. 🤷♀


I have tried for a decade to not be an alarmist, but after all the recent nomination and certain jokes, it’s hard to look away completely. In the 30s across the pond, power was consolidated in a year and a half. From a democracy to a dictatorship.

Doesn’t look like congress is going to stand in the way of the presidency.

Without their or the support of SCOTUS, along with a lot of republican governors and state legislatures - do we still have enough guardrails to survive the next 4 years?

Do we have enough guardrails to survive the next 4 years?


And by tradition, I mean read some Rousseau.

Liberals need to return to tradition


They keep saying the military is woke but refuse to say what that means.

We've had black soldiers since the civil war, the countries they love to worship because of how "masculine" they are have had gender equality and service since at least WW2.

How would firing black officers make the military stronger?

Isn't that another betrayal of the black maga voters? Many of whom are in the military?

Or the women who joined because their family has a military tradition? My cousin is in the military and she's hard core maga. I'm confused why Republican military women aren't concerned about their jobs.

If the military is struggling with recruitment then why on earth would you ban the people who want to join?

When they talk about getting rid of the "woke" military wtf are they really talking about?

They keep saying the military is woke but refuse to say what that means.

We&#39;ve had black soldiers since the civil war, the countries they love to worship because of how &quot;masculine&quot; they are have had gender equality and service since at least WW2.

How would firing black officers make the military stronger?

Isn&#39;t that another betrayal of the black maga voters? Many of whom are in the military?

Or the women who joined because their family has a military tradition? My cousin is in the military and she&#39;s hard core maga. I&#39;m confused why Republican military women aren&#39;t concerned about their jobs.

If the military is struggling with recruitment then why on earth would you ban the people who want to join?


From a young YouTube and TikTok star who is making a difference, with a profound message for liberals.

[‘Woke Teen’ Dean Withers Debated 20 Trump Voters at Once. Now He Has a Message for Liberals](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/woke-teen-dean-withers-debated-20-trump-voters-at-once-now-he-has-a-message-for-liberals/ar-AA1u1bS8?)

A message from a young white man in the trenches:  How to debate Trumpers.

From a young YouTube and TikTok star who is making a difference, with a profound message for liberals.

‘Woke Teen’ Dean Withers Debated 20 Trump Voters at Once. Now He Has a Message for Liberals


I don't understand why Marchan is delaying sentencing for the 34 felonies related to 2016 election interference. He's considering whether Trump is immune. But he wasn't president then. This was before the election. I don't get it.

Judge Marchan

I don&#39;t understand why Marchan is delaying sentencing for the 34 felonies related to 2016 election interference. He&#39;s considering whether Trump is immune. But he wasn&#39;t president then. This was before the election. I don&#39;t get it.


It's been a trying time for liberals in the US these last couple weeks.

I suggest that all liberals just take a week of rest.

Sleep in, read a book, hangout with friends, and generally live life as a human should.

Once the week is done and all Trump, MAGA, corporations, and powers that be will see how helpless the country is without 70 million worker bees running around. And the 70 million worker bees see how strong they are together. This country might actually change for the better.

Workers rights, universal health care, basic human dignity, reproductive rights, LGTBQ rights, climate change and many more would magically be on the table.

If they weren't perhaps another week of rest would be in order.

You might call that a general strike. But I don't think picket lines or protests need to be done.

Take a break from the world that just isn't treating humans as humans and enjoy yourself. Sleep in.

Week of rest

It&#39;s been a trying time for liberals in the US these last couple weeks.

I suggest that all liberals just take a week of rest.

Sleep in, read a book, hangout with friends, and generally live life as a human should.

Once the week is done and all Trump, MAGA, corporations, and powers that be will see how helpless the country is without 70 million worker bees running around. And the 70 million worker bees see how strong they are together. This country might actually change for the better.

Workers rights, universal health care, basic human dignity, reproductive rights, LGTBQ rights, climate change and many more would magically be on the table.

If they weren&#39;t perhaps another week of rest would be in order.

You might call that a general strike. But I don&#39;t think picket lines or protests need to be done.

Take a break from the world that just isn&#39;t treating humans as humans and enjoy yourself. Sleep in.


Who were the 9M Biden 2020 voters who stayed home this year and what are their reasons? 90% did not vote for Trump last week.


‘All dogs, please, this is not a drill’: Donald Trump appoints a puppy killer as his Secretary of Homeland Security


Warren: Trump transition ‘already breaking the law’


Some quick thoughts on what I think needs changing:

* Dems need to focus on concrete solutions, and abandon all of the feelings and vibes nonsense.  I could hear it in almost every speech the last 4 years.  Dripping with feelings and warm fuzzies. Just stop.  Propose long-term solutions, or don't even try.  The vast majority of Americans want problem solving, not an emotional bath.  "A, B, and C are problems, and we think X, Y, and Z will address at least some of it, and here's how, and here's how it gets paid for."
* DEAL WITH THE BORDER.  I used to think the greatest unforced political error in history was Romney's "my message is for you, not the 47% of Americans that don't pay taxes."  Not anymore.  Escorting millions of border crossers into red border states - who then bussed them to blue cities and suburbs -  is now the greatest unforced political error that the free world will ever see.
* Stop marching dudes with mustaches, red lipstick, and dresses in front of voters. I believe most folks don't care what the individual does with their own time, but for the love of god, don't alienate voters like you did.  That was another unforced political error.
* Never again make the mistake of pigeon-holing the other candidate as a nazi or a felon, without proving to voters beyond a shadow of a doubt that your vision of governance (taxation, foreign policy, economic growth measures, etc) is better than theirs.
* Never again run for president and tell voters that you want to raise taxes.  Even if it's only on high earners.  High earners have kids, parents, siblings, friends, and neighbors who all vote also.  If a reporter ever asks a future dem candidate about their position on taxes, the answer should be "we feel strongly that we need to get the nose of the national debt pointed back into a safer trajectory. We have a list of investments in infrastructure that need to be addressed, but nothing - no bridges, no roads, no dams, no power lines - is going to be replaced if republicans keep eroding the tax base and driving us ever deeper in debt. We're on a bad trajectory, and both sides got us there."
* Don't ever - ever, ever, ever, ever - ignore inflation again.

What I think needs changing

Some quick thoughts on what I think needs changing:

Dems need to focus on concrete solutions, and abandon all of the feelings and vibes nonsense.  I could hear it in almost every speech the last 4 years.  Dripping with feelings and warm fuzzies. Just stop.  Propose long-term solutions, or don&#39;t even try.  The vast majority of Americans want problem solving, not an emotional bath.  &quot;A, B, and C are problems, and we think X, Y, and Z will address at least some of it, and here&#39;s how, and here&#39;s how it gets paid for.&quot;

DEAL WITH THE BORDER.  I used to think the greatest unforced political error in history was Romney&#39;s &quot;my message is for you, not the 47% of Americans that don&#39;t pay taxes.&quot;  Not anymore.  Escorting millions of border crossers into red border states - who then bussed them to blue cities and suburbs -  is now the greatest unforced political error that the free world will ever see.

Stop marching dudes with mustaches, red lipstick, and dresses in front of voters. I believe most folks don&#39;t care what the individual does with their own time, but for the love of god, don&#39;t alienate voters like you did.  That was another unforced political error.

Never again make the mistake of pigeon-holing the other candidate as a nazi or a felon, without proving to voters beyond a shadow of a doubt that your vision of governance (taxation, foreign policy, economic growth measures, etc) is better than theirs.

Never again run for president and tell voters that you want to raise taxes.  Even if it&#39;s only on high earners.  High earners have kids, parents, siblings, friends, and neighbors who all vote also.  If a reporter ever asks a future dem candidate about their position on taxes, the answer should be &quot;we feel strongly that we need to get the nose of the national debt pointed back into a safer trajectory. We have a list of investments in infrastructure that need to be addressed, but nothing - no bridges, no roads, no dams, no power lines - is going to be replaced if republicans keep eroding the tax base and driving us ever deeper in debt. We&#39;re on a bad trajectory, and both sides got us there.&quot;

Don&#39;t ever - ever, ever, ever, ever - ignore inflation again.


Authoritarianism Expert Shatters A Trump ‘Illusion’: ‘One Of The Biggest Scams Of All’


Arizona AG says she won't drop state's fake electors case against Trump allies


I think its hilarious you Conservative Christian types keep coming here to stir the pot, and I will tell you why. You think you are big tough strong masculine bullies, but you are literally simping over an old man. You couldn't ride a dick any harder if you tried. Secondly a majority vote doesn't mean someone is more right than the other, all it means is you idiots are louder, and reproduce more. I hope you comment on my post, because I love your hatred, I'm going to bathe myself in it, and not even give you the satisfaction of responding to it, because I am already the bigger person by deciding not to, not that I would waste my breath or brain cells going in circles with you morons playing the "I know you are but what am I?" thing you filthy commies have been doing justifying your hatred by misdirecting to economics, and yes, hes taking advantage of all you poor, uneducated, prejudiced, misinformed, lazy, entitled, desperate, "alphas". You poor things. Ya know, the truth may not be as loud, it may get silenced, or get lost in the sauce, but its always out there. You can only cover your tracks so much before things just start coming up. The rich aren't here to save us. Never have been never will be. A job isn't a job anymore when the boss is your government. One person loses their freedoms the rest follows. History has told us this time and time again. Cutting off trade with tariffs and reinforcing immigration will not help a country that depends on trade for survival, but it will cut us off and distance us from the world more. A liberal media purge which you all assume is fake news, or biased against your beliefs, whatever, means you get one sided, biased, misinformation 24/7. There are no checks and balances on media coverage, meaning we get a constant flood of Trumps message. What he wants us to believe. Hes already done it, who are we even kidding, most of you are so delusional and detatched from reality, this is a waste of time even explaining it, while you think that is the "right thing for America, make America Great again" there was never anything wrong with America before Trump. People may have had different views but division and conflict hadn't occurred on this level over American politics GLOBALLY until he was a candidate. People played dirty but they didn't play this dirty. Things that have happened over his candidacy, if you would have asked me a decade ago if anything like what hes done or said sounds like an American President, I would say no. Anyone who is old enough, sane enough, smart enough would agree. Like dude Bush was cooler than this. Republicans were different then, had more integrity. Now, as for him helping the economy, bandaid solutions to gaping wound problems. To fix the economy you have to have people who are clean off drugs, people who are EDUCATED, people who are secure, have homes, access to information and resources, this creates job growth, personal growth, and ensures the happiness and growth of your citizens. Businesses with government regulation, have limits on what they can charge, because businesses unregulated can charge whatever, claim whatever, and get off scot free with minimal consequence. What's that mean? Say you order a defibrillator for emergencies and you have a heart condition and it doesn't work, the company that sold it to you isn't liable for faulty products. Pay up. Does anyone remember company stores? Coal camps? Where businesses owned the town, made the cost of living, made the cost of goods? Miserable. Pay up. Our abundance of year round produce like bananas, pineapples, ect. ect. Tariffs. Trade bans. I know you hate admitting you are wrong, I know it goes against your "God" or how you were "raised" but take away your religion, take away your political views, you are just hateful, ignorant, narcissistic, detatched, facetious, insecure, delusional, sad and angry little person. Maybe not all of those things, but many combinations of the list, yes. You chose to forsake others for money you won't get to touch, promises that won't be kept, and it will catch up with you. You've chosen ignorance when the Earth is at a pivotal point of deciding to open the mind or stay in the past thinking the past is a path for the future. Thats absolutely insane. And this is just for you Reddit Conservative Republican Christians who keep coming over here with your stupid show your small dick mentality. Now as for the rest of your votes that win you the election? Fake fascist commie Fox news. Voter fraud. We demand a recount. We won the election before it happened. Russia interfered in the election. He cheated. Hes senile. Hes a risk to national security. Tired Trump. He flooded the media both Conservative and Liberal for 12 years I call fraud on account of Stockholm Syndrome and misinformation based fraud combined with the effects of repetition frequency on the illusory truth effect. Hes already held you captive for 12 years. People just want you poor saps to wake up before you drink the freaking Kool-aid because they care about you. They fact check you because they care about you. They don't want you WOKE they just want you to OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES. *mic drop* And don't expect a reply.

Glad to see we have visitors.

I think its hilarious you Conservative Christian types keep coming here to stir the pot, and I will tell you why. You think you are big tough strong masculine bullies, but you are literally simping over an old man. You couldn&#39;t ride a dick any harder if you tried. Secondly a majority vote doesn&#39;t mean someone is more right than the other, all it means is you idiots are louder, and reproduce more. I hope you comment on my post, because I love your hatred, I&#39;m going to bathe myself in it, and not even give you the satisfaction of responding to it, because I am already the bigger person by deciding not to, not that I would waste my breath or brain cells going in circles with you morons playing the &quot;I know you are but what am I?&quot; thing you filthy commies have been doing justifying your hatred by misdirecting to economics, and yes, hes taking advantage of all you poor, uneducated, prejudiced, misinformed, lazy, entitled, desperate, &quot;alphas&quot;. You poor things. Ya know, the truth may not be as loud, it may get silenced, or get lost in the sauce, but its always out there. You can only cover your tracks so much before things just start coming up. The rich aren&#39;t here to save us. Never have been never will be. A job isn&#39;t a job anymore when the boss is your government. One person loses their freedoms the rest follows. History has told us this time and time again. Cutting off trade with tariffs and reinforcing immigration will not help a country that depends on trade for survival, but it will cut us off and distance us from the world more. A liberal media purge which you all assume is fake news, or biased against your beliefs, whatever, means you get one sided, biased, misinformation 24/7. There are no checks and balances on media coverage, meaning we get a constant flood of Trumps message. What he wants us to believe. Hes already done it, who are we even kidding, most of you are so delusional and detatched from reality, this is a waste of time even explaining it, while you think that is the &quot;right thing for America, make America Great again&quot; there was never anything wrong with America before Trump. People may have had different views but division and conflict hadn&#39;t occurred on this level over American politics GLOBALLY until he was a candidate. People played dirty but they didn&#39;t play this dirty. Things that have happened over his candidacy, if you would have asked me a decade ago if anything like what hes done or said sounds like an American President, I would say no. Anyone who is old enough, sane enough, smart enough would agree. Like dude Bush was cooler than this. Republicans were different then, had more integrity. Now, as for him helping the economy, bandaid solutions to gaping wound problems. To fix the economy you have to have people who are clean off drugs, people who are EDUCATED, people who are secure, have homes, access to information and resources, this creates job growth, personal growth, and ensures the happiness and growth of your citizens. Businesses with government regulation, have limits on what they can charge, because businesses unregulated can charge whatever, claim whatever, and get off scot free with minimal consequence. What&#39;s that mean? Say you order a defibrillator for emergencies and you have a heart condition and it doesn&#39;t work, the company that sold it to you isn&#39;t liable for faulty products. Pay up. Does anyone remember company stores? Coal camps? Where businesses owned the town, made the cost of living, made the cost of goods? Miserable. Pay up. Our abundance of year round produce like bananas, pineapples, ect. ect. Tariffs. Trade bans. I know you hate admitting you are wrong, I know it goes against your &quot;God&quot; or how you were &quot;raised&quot; but take away your religion, take away your political views, you are just hateful, ignorant, narcissistic, detatched, facetious, insecure, delusional, sad and angry little person. Maybe not all of those things, but many combinations of the list, yes. You chose to forsake others for money you won&#39;t get to touch, promises that won&#39;t be kept, and it will catch up with you. You&#39;ve chosen ignorance when the Earth is at a pivotal point of deciding to open the mind or stay in the past thinking the past is a path for the future. Thats absolutely insane. And this is just for you Reddit Conservative Republican Christians who keep coming over here with your stupid show your small dick mentality. Now as for the rest of your votes that win you the election? Fake fascist commie Fox news. Voter fraud. We demand a recount. We won the election before it happened. Russia interfered in the election. He cheated. Hes senile. Hes a risk to national security. Tired Trump. He flooded the media both Conservative and Liberal for 12 years I call fraud on account of Stockholm Syndrome and misinformation based fraud combined with the effects of repetition frequency on the illusory truth effect. Hes already held you captive for 12 years. People just want you poor saps to wake up before you drink the freaking Kool-aid because they care about you. They fact check you because they care about you. They don&#39;t want you WOKE they just want you to OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES. mic drop And don&#39;t expect a reply.


And so it begins…


Desperately need some hope and tired of all the doom and gloom. What’s the most realistic,  best case scenario for the foreseeable future of our country?

What’s the best case scenario here?


I'm so angry at the media for many reasons. One is all the damn polls were totally wrong. They were all saying the race was neck and neck. Some even had started saying that Harris was ahead in some key swing states. As in 2016, the polls were at best, inaccurate. This time they weren't even close. They were all so smug about the polls and their findings. Then when trump won, the media turned.

They immediately proclaimed that they were sure all along that Harris would lose. They blamed everyone, including the voters. That's what pissed me off the most. They had the balls to blame those that voted! Talk about total gaslighting. Meanwhile, the right wing media gloats, mocks the liberals, and talks about liberal tears.  They're smug, and they're all assholes.

Eventually, I will go back to watching the news. But it's gonna be awhile. I need a break and I need to rest.

Why were the polls so wrong?

I&#39;m so angry at the media for many reasons. One is all the damn polls were totally wrong. They were all saying the race was neck and neck. Some even had started saying that Harris was ahead in some key swing states. As in 2016, the polls were at best, inaccurate. This time they weren&#39;t even close. They were all so smug about the polls and their findings. Then when trump won, the media turned.

They immediately proclaimed that they were sure all along that Harris would lose. They blamed everyone, including the voters. That&#39;s what pissed me off the most. They had the balls to blame those that voted! Talk about total gaslighting. Meanwhile, the right wing media gloats, mocks the liberals, and talks about liberal tears.  They&#39;re smug, and they&#39;re all assholes.

Eventually, I will go back to watching the news. But it&#39;s gonna be awhile. I need a break and I need to rest.


I'm hearing now that it wasn't the fault of the 15m people who stayed home that Trump won.

I'm not buying it. As I look at Trump numbers, again, I see 74 million votes. That's what he had last time back in 2020. His base has not changed. Going on Joe Rogan didn't change, which, by the way, just want to say I called out Joe Rogan for being a conservative shill a long time ago.

But I digress. Where are these extra votes going to come from? Harris still sits firmly 4 million votes behind Trump. Eat me. No way she catches up. Those 15 million other votes just stayed home.

And I agree with the fact that they stayed home because she was a woman. Had she been a man she'd have won this election.

Misogyny is ingrained in America. THAT is why she lost. It's not because she wasn't qualified or what have you. It's because she's a woman.

She was younger, smarter, quicker, and agile... yet she lost to a senile old man who takes a crap anytime someone says something bad about him.

You will never convince me it WASN'T because she was a woman.

I say that as a white, atheist, bi man living in Idaho by the way. So if you want to question my motives for saying this. Go for it.

Edit: I see there are comments here pointing out the racism and yes, I agree, America is racist as shit. But Obama got elected. He was a man. Harris got more votes than Clinton but still couldn't clinch it. This tells me that America is more misogynistic than it is racist. But it is absolutely racist. I'm not disputing that.

I keep hearing theories about how 15m people staying home didn't actually stay home and I'm not buying it.

I&#39;m hearing now that it wasn&#39;t the fault of the 15m people who stayed home that Trump won.

I&#39;m not buying it. As I look at Trump numbers, again, I see 74 million votes. That&#39;s what he had last time back in 2020. His base has not changed. Going on Joe Rogan didn&#39;t change, which, by the way, just want to say I called out Joe Rogan for being a conservative shill a long time ago.

But I digress. Where are these extra votes going to come from? Harris still sits firmly 4 million votes behind Trump. Eat me. No way she catches up. Those 15 million other votes just stayed home.

And I agree with the fact that they stayed home because she was a woman. Had she been a man she&#39;d have won this election.

Misogyny is ingrained in America. THAT is why she lost. It&#39;s not because she wasn&#39;t qualified or what have you. It&#39;s because she&#39;s a woman.

She was younger, smarter, quicker, and agile... yet she lost to a senile old man who takes a crap anytime someone says something bad about him.

You will never convince me it WASN&#39;T because she was a woman.

I say that as a white, atheist, bi man living in Idaho by the way. So if you want to question my motives for saying this. Go for it.

Edit: I see there are comments here pointing out the racism and yes, I agree, America is racist as shit. But Obama got elected. He was a man. Harris got more votes than Clinton but still couldn&#39;t clinch it. This tells me that America is more misogynistic than it is racist. But it is absolutely racist. I&#39;m not disputing that.


I know we're all feeling angry, shocked, and incredulous over this election. When I feel alone, I come on here. Then I know I'm not the only one, and I feel better. Yeah, we all know things are gonna be rough and nasty in the future. Let's keep this a community where we support one another.

It's kind of like living in a hostile community, but there is another community where I feel valued and respected that's close by. I hope people like us come together and start rebuilding so that in four years, we actually get someone in the White House who gives a damn.

Just know I'm thinking of all of you, and I care deeply. Probably too much, but oh well. We never have to feel alone, even though the republicans and the news media would like us to.

We're all in this together

I know we&#39;re all feeling angry, shocked, and incredulous over this election. When I feel alone, I come on here. Then I know I&#39;m not the only one, and I feel better. Yeah, we all know things are gonna be rough and nasty in the future. Let&#39;s keep this a community where we support one another.

It&#39;s kind of like living in a hostile community, but there is another community where I feel valued and respected that&#39;s close by. I hope people like us come together and start rebuilding so that in four years, we actually get someone in the White House who gives a damn.

Just know I&#39;m thinking of all of you, and I care deeply. Probably too much, but oh well. We never have to feel alone, even though the republicans and the news media would like us to.


I'm 60 yo. My mom is 80 yo and my dad 81 yo. Both they and I have been liberals for many many years. They have voted in every single election since they turned 18. They like to sit and watch MSNBC all day, and I do mean literally all day. I've been to their apartment many times. MSNBC is always on, no matter the time of day or night.

I was lamenting to my dad on the phone about the election. My dad stated that the day after the election, they both decided to not watch any news channel with anything political. They haven't had their TV on since. My dad also stated he will not be voting ever again. I'm upset, but not quite like that. I think they just got too much exposure watching that day in and day out.

I'm sad my dad feels this way, but he says he's angry and has completely lost his faith that his vote counts at all. I wonder if others feel this way too. I served my country in the military for 20 years. I can't not vote. It would feel like a betrayal to my country. I will continue to vote, but I too have lost faith that my vote counts for nothing.

To me, the way people voted is a middle finger to women, LGBTQ+, POC, middle class, the poor, anyone who is not filthy stinking rich. They do not give a crap for people like me.

My liberal parents say they will no longer watch any political news on TV, nor will they ever vote in another election.

I&#39;m 60 yo. My mom is 80 yo and my dad 81 yo. Both they and I have been liberals for many many years. They have voted in every single election since they turned 18. They like to sit and watch MSNBC all day, and I do mean literally all day. I&#39;ve been to their apartment many times. MSNBC is always on, no matter the time of day or night.

I was lamenting to my dad on the phone about the election. My dad stated that the day after the election, they both decided to not watch any news channel with anything political. They haven&#39;t had their TV on since. My dad also stated he will not be voting ever again. I&#39;m upset, but not quite like that. I think they just got too much exposure watching that day in and day out.

I&#39;m sad my dad feels this way, but he says he&#39;s angry and has completely lost his faith that his vote counts at all. I wonder if others feel this way too. I served my country in the military for 20 years. I can&#39;t not vote. It would feel like a betrayal to my country. I will continue to vote, but I too have lost faith that my vote counts for nothing.

To me, the way people voted is a middle finger to women, LGBTQ+, POC, middle class, the poor, anyone who is not filthy stinking rich. They do not give a crap for people like me.


What line will he cross…what line will he cross that will truly be detrimental to society. He has crossed many already…lines we thought were too distant for anyone to reach…no matter how psychopathic.

There are more for him to cross though. A line does exist, a line that will make the more sensible and rational of his supporters understand what a grave mistake they made.

I’m interested to know what it is

What’s it going to be


There's only one culprit behind why this season turned out the way it did, and it is misinformation. A concentrated, well-funded, scorched-earth campaign of lies that has been carried out from the ground up by Republican leadership.

It starts with Fox News, built up over decades to be a machine that spews out hate-filled lies 24/7 into the ears of the public. It continues with the media ecosystem of small publications, podcasters, and media personalities that echo the Fox News talking points and take it even further, waging the front lines of the culture war out of personal passion, not realizing--or not caring--they're the acting as the gullible patsies of the oligarchs who fund it all. And it is capped, in these years, by Trump himself, the most shameless liar to ever sully the stage of American politics with his presence. Trump, who cannot open his mouth without lying, who has managed to break every record for the number of lies spoken in a single speech, who built his popularity on the back of one Big Lie after another--without hesitating either to intersperse them with a thousand small lies.

It is tempting of course to look at our own leaders and our own policies and try to ask, "what did we do wrong? What policy could we present differently to appeal to (*insert demographic here*)?" But this is misguided, because how would any policy hold any appeal if they never know what it is?

It's tempting to look at the facts and the way our leaders spoke about them and say, "She should have hit this fact harder, driven home this point more clearly!" But what purpose does that ever serve if they don't know what the facts are?

Similarly, it is tempting to take refuge in the misery-laden moan of, "Oh, this country is more racists/bigoted/misogynist than I thought it was!" Certainly Trump actively courts the racist and misogynist vote, but if that were the beginning and end of the story then why did so many minorities and women vote for him? When you ask the rank-and-file voters--not the hardcore bigots--why they voted the way they did, it has to do with economy, policy, the border, and their own wellfare... all hard-and-fast, real-world factors.

Factors they are wrong about. Because of a deliberate campaign of lies.

We'll never be able to move toward a sane government as long as lies reign unchecked across our society. How can you make good decisions if you don't know the truth? And Trump supporters don't need to be unusually ignorant or naive to believe the lies when they're coming from every direction. When you hear the same thing on your preferred big cable TV news program, and from your favorite podcaster, and from your candidate for President (all people who you *should* be able to trust!) you'd have to be crazy to question it!

My theory is a cabal of wealthy oligarchs funded and built this media environment in order to promote policies good for themselves--low taxes on the rich and low regulation on business. In so doing, they have betrayed the trust of the millions of people who look to media for trustworthy information.

And we are never going to move forward as a country (liberal or otherwise!) unless we can undermine this campaign of lies and somehow move back to a shared sense of facts--and ones that are actually based in fact!

So stop blaming bigotry or Harris or Trump voters. Blame the oligarchs who've built this engine of lies for their own benefit.

And ask the real question, the only one likely to help: what do we do about it?

Liberals need to stop blaming themselves, and stop blaming Trump voters

There&#39;s only one culprit behind why this season turned out the way it did, and it is misinformation. A concentrated, well-funded, scorched-earth campaign of lies that has been carried out from the ground up by Republican leadership.

It starts with Fox News, built up over decades to be a machine that spews out hate-filled lies 24/7 into the ears of the public. It continues with the media ecosystem of small publications, podcasters, and media personalities that echo the Fox News talking points and take it even further, waging the front lines of the culture war out of personal passion, not realizing--or not caring--they&#39;re the acting as the gullible patsies of the oligarchs who fund it all. And it is capped, in these years, by Trump himself, the most shameless liar to ever sully the stage of American politics with his presence. Trump, who cannot open his mouth without lying, who has managed to break every record for the number of lies spoken in a single speech, who built his popularity on the back of one Big Lie after another--without hesitating either to intersperse them with a thousand small lies.

It is tempting of course to look at our own leaders and our own policies and try to ask, &quot;what did we do wrong? What policy could we present differently to appeal to (insert demographic here)?&quot; But this is misguided, because how would any policy hold any appeal if they never know what it is?

It&#39;s tempting to look at the facts and the way our leaders spoke about them and say, &quot;She should have hit this fact harder, driven home this point more clearly!&quot; But what purpose does that ever serve if they don&#39;t know what the facts are?

Similarly, it is tempting to take refuge in the misery-laden moan of, &quot;Oh, this country is more racists/bigoted/misogynist than I thought it was!&quot; Certainly Trump actively courts the racist and misogynist vote, but if that were the beginning and end of the story then why did so many minorities and women vote for him? When you ask the rank-and-file voters--not the hardcore bigots--why they voted the way they did, it has to do with economy, policy, the border, and their own wellfare... all hard-and-fast, real-world factors.

Factors they are wrong about. Because of a deliberate campaign of lies.

We&#39;ll never be able to move toward a sane government as long as lies reign unchecked across our society. How can you make good decisions if you don&#39;t know the truth? And Trump supporters don&#39;t need to be unusually ignorant or naive to believe the lies when they&#39;re coming from every direction. When you hear the same thing on your preferred big cable TV news program, and from your favorite podcaster, and from your candidate for President (all people who you should be able to trust!) you&#39;d have to be crazy to question it!

My theory is a cabal of wealthy oligarchs funded and built this media environment in order to promote policies good for themselves--low taxes on the rich and low regulation on business. In so doing, they have betrayed the trust of the millions of people who look to media for trustworthy information.

And we are never going to move forward as a country (liberal or otherwise!) unless we can undermine this campaign of lies and somehow move back to a shared sense of facts--and ones that are actually based in fact!

So stop blaming bigotry or Harris or Trump voters. Blame the oligarchs who&#39;ve built this engine of lies for their own benefit.

And ask the real question, the only one likely to help: what do we do about it?


First ask yourself, “what is a fucking liberal?”

If you let them define it, then you’re going to lose immediately. Words must mean something and theirs mean nothing.

A liberal is someone who wants change against what has been. Yes, there are other definitions, but we are gonna be merriam-Webster about this.

Now the idea that republicans can’t be liberal, isn’t true. Lincoln was a liberal republican. That’s important as the demonization of republicans will most certainly lead into not prying away their base. And prying away is just as important as creating a new movement and trying to get people to follow.

But we don’t need to create a new movement. There already exist one that is quite liberal. We borrow it. But we don’t return it.

——

The current state of the world is that the very wealthy literally own everything. Even Republicans acknowledge this but they can’t put their finger on it (talking about voters not the elites who I’m speaking of anyways). Doesn’t matter what country you go to either. Left or right, they own it.

Even progressive voices acknowledge this. But they  put their focus on more than one topic and then the message becomes lost.

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Why is that important?

Republicans tend to be single issue voters. Dems tend to focus on multiple things but then will hardline towards single issues at the end. So the single issue that has overlap is ….classism.

And the solution to classism most certainly covers almost all topics and demographics. They have, you don’t.

——

The pivot must stress classism. You don’t always have to detail it so eloquently as if you were a philosopher being quoted some hundreds of years from now. I wouldn’t do that, as you’ll lose focus of the uneducated.

Conservative absolutely protect that classist ideology. But don’t attack conservatives themselves, just the belief in “their billionaires.”

——

Next, we must sooner rather than later, pick someone to lead this. The way we do that is by highlighting them and sharing them everywhere (obviously). We all must brainstorm who that is. But it cannot be Sanders because of age. Ideally, it’s someone middle aged. That gets young and old on board. 60 is not middle aged. Somewhere around 40 is.

This person must not be elite or come from elites. It must be grassroots. You cannot have them accept from the rich. They must abstain. They essentially cannot be worth millions.

——

If you did not read and only scrolled towards the end, the problem is that liberals (who want to change things) aren’t focusing on the main issue of the fact that the elites of owned things since our country’s birth. That needs to change and we must pivot to stress it.

Progressives need to understand that a lot of the issues involving civil liberties can change due to solving this issue, and conservatives don’t actually make up much of the country. The parties do. Most people believe in change.

Economic issues play one of the largest if not the largest, historically and most likely always will.

——

Edit: but also brainstorm. Don’t just take it from me. But do understand that classism is going to play the biggest role.

How to fight and actually win


It's become apparent America will simply not elect a woman President.

She can be highly qualified, highly accomplished, highly competent, intelligent and articulate - she can be white or black - doesn't matter. She will lose.

She could be opposite the most vile, immoral, lying, cheating, old man - doesn't matter. She could be opposite a convicted felon and rapist - doesn't matter. She will lose.

America will NOT elect a woman President.

[I spent hours trying to persuade US voters to choose Harris not Trump. I know why she lost | Oliver Hall | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/09/us-voters-kamala-harris-donald-trump-republican)

It&#39;s become apparent America will simply not elect a woman President.

She can be highly qualified, highly accomplished, highly competent, intelligent and articulate - she can be white or black - doesn&#39;t matter. She will lose.

She could be opposite the most vile, immoral, lying, cheating, old man - doesn&#39;t matter. She could be opposite a convicted felon and rapist - doesn&#39;t matter. She will lose.

America will NOT elect a woman President.

I spent hours trying to persuade US voters to choose Harris not Trump. I know why she lost | Oliver Hall | The Guardian


I’m going to go ahead and say men that wanted control of their women lost women’s rights for us.

89 Things Trump has said about Women.


1534 days


Why aren't Dems replacing every left Justice under about 65 right now?

There's 50ish days until the new Senate is in. ACB was installed in about 35 days, and I hope we all remember McConnell's hypocrisy about "judges in an election year."

I believe Manchin has said he won't support it. That's still 50 Senators voting with the Dems, and 1 tie breaker with Harris. Of course that's a very thin margin and that's a serious problem.

You'd have to get Sotomayor (and Kagan?) to agree and retire, but are we really just worried about norms and fairness at this point? I refer you back to Turtle McConnell.

The alternative is probably seeing a minimum of 6-7 hard right justices for at least 20-30 years. Supermajority control of the Supreme Court.

Am I missing something?

Supreme Court Justices

Why aren&#39;t Dems replacing every left Justice under about 65 right now?

There&#39;s 50ish days until the new Senate is in. ACB was installed in about 35 days, and I hope we all remember McConnell&#39;s hypocrisy about &quot;judges in an election year.&quot;

I believe Manchin has said he won&#39;t support it. That&#39;s still 50 Senators voting with the Dems, and 1 tie breaker with Harris. Of course that&#39;s a very thin margin and that&#39;s a serious problem.

You&#39;d have to get Sotomayor (and Kagan?) to agree and retire, but are we really just worried about norms and fairness at this point? I refer you back to Turtle McConnell.

The alternative is probably seeing a minimum of 6-7 hard right justices for at least 20-30 years. Supermajority control of the Supreme Court.

Am I missing something?


For the past 4 years, every time I read a story on Fix News about some random crime committed by a migrant (making it seem like there were 1000s of cases), I saw their mindless forum posters saying "you get what you voted for."

Am I wrong in wishing that on every voter who KNEW what they were voting for this week? Feel the inflation, feel the price hikes, feel thr loss of jobs, feel the hate and unrest we ALL will suffer through. This was not some deep state secret. He told you exactly what he wanted. Deal with it. Two prisoners getting transgender surgery every 4 years won't sound so bad.

Am I being cold?

For the past 4 years, every time I read a story on Fix News about some random crime committed by a migrant (making it seem like there were 1000s of cases), I saw their mindless forum posters saying &quot;you get what you voted for.&quot;

Am I wrong in wishing that on every voter who KNEW what they were voting for this week? Feel the inflation, feel the price hikes, feel thr loss of jobs, feel the hate and unrest we ALL will suffer through. This was not some deep state secret. He told you exactly what he wanted. Deal with it. Two prisoners getting transgender surgery every 4 years won&#39;t sound so bad.


I was thinking today about how long it will take before the press is told to go away, and that the daily White House press conferences we currently  experience will  once again end.

We need to be strong and know in our heart of hearts, that this too will pass.

Keep our heads up...

We will be determined that this one individual will not destroy and forever change our US Constitution, this country, our precious animals and all of the land he plans to start drilling on.

Pray for all humans on this planet.

This person will not erase all of the good things about America.

This person will not forever destroy our relationships with our allies, while bowing down and welcoming our enemies.

It's easy to let all of the negativity,  obscenities, and revenge-filled rage obscure the reality that we will not let one person destroy us.

We stand strong.

We won't let it happen.☮🙏🗽🇺🇸👍

A Black Woman's Open Thank You Letter To Kamala Harris

I was thinking today about how long it will take before the press is told to go away, and that the daily White House press conferences we currently  experience will  once again end.

We need to be strong and know in our heart of hearts, that this too will pass.

Keep our heads up...

We will be determined that this one individual will not destroy and forever change our US Constitution, this country, our precious animals and all of the land he plans to start drilling on.

Pray for all humans on this planet.

This person will not erase all of the good things about America.

This person will not forever destroy our relationships with our allies, while bowing down and welcoming our enemies.

It&#39;s easy to let all of the negativity,  obscenities, and revenge-filled rage obscure the reality that we will not let one person destroy us.

We stand strong.

We won&#39;t let it happen.☮🙏🗽🇺🇸👍


Gonna get downvoted but why should we care anymore? Affluent white male lifelong liberal here have always had strong social concious to help others less fortunate than me always supported human rights and the betterment of our world but seems Americans everywhere I turn just out for themselves with no regard for anyone else now with Trump landslide victory which makes me physically sick am just tired and just feel like fuck it our society is hopeless this was the one election where Americans had to step up and defend our rights and future and chose not to. So why should I care anymore maybe its time to join them Trumps policies will make me even richer so fuck it

Why Should We Care Anymore?


‘… Didn’t get their news from mainstream media’: TIME Magazine reveals how Trump truly won


Janelle Bynum wins race for Congress, flipping U.S. House seat from GOP to Democratic control; Bynum will be Oregon’s first Black representative


I suggest we should look at this election loss from a perspective of vote-splitting. It's not the only valid perspective, but there are lessons here.

We can approximate the country into four quadrants divided along two axes: pro-life/pro-choice, pro-democracy/anti-democracy. The pro-choice/pro-democracy party is the institutional Democratic Party. The pro-life/pro-democracy people explicitly aren't allowed in that club, because the Party refuses to (as they would put it) compromise on women's rights, and the pro-life crowd won't compromise on the issue either. The anti-democracy people are the institutional Republican Party, and were able to work together better regardless of their pro-life/pro-choice stance. So now we have effectively three parties, in a system built for two, and vote-splitting screws the entire pro-democracy camp.

The correct solution is for the Democratic Party to compromise on the pro-life/pro-choice axis, on an *explicitly temporary* basis. Allow pro-life candidates back into the party, on the condition that once the Democratic Party gains power in any state or at a federal level, it should immediately begin a defined program of massive systematic reform, which includes reforms that make the system function with more than two parties. (No more first-past-the-post, approval voting FTW, among other solutions.) After that, the pro-life and pro-choice wings can safely part ways, but still opportunistically cooperate, without handing the entire government over to the fascists.

The GOP became the party of Trump due to vote-splitting; he won the 2016 primary with only 40% of the votes cast. The GOP didn't fix the problem, they doubled down. Can the Democrats instead learn the lesson that the fundamental problem is our election systems, and until that gets fixed, nothing else will?

Temporary abortion compromise, followed immediately by massive electoral reform

I suggest we should look at this election loss from a perspective of vote-splitting. It&#39;s not the only valid perspective, but there are lessons here.

We can approximate the country into four quadrants divided along two axes: pro-life/pro-choice, pro-democracy/anti-democracy. The pro-choice/pro-democracy party is the institutional Democratic Party. The pro-life/pro-democracy people explicitly aren&#39;t allowed in that club, because the Party refuses to (as they would put it) compromise on women&#39;s rights, and the pro-life crowd won&#39;t compromise on the issue either. The anti-democracy people are the institutional Republican Party, and were able to work together better regardless of their pro-life/pro-choice stance. So now we have effectively three parties, in a system built for two, and vote-splitting screws the entire pro-democracy camp.

The correct solution is for the Democratic Party to compromise on the pro-life/pro-choice axis, on an explicitly temporary basis. Allow pro-life candidates back into the party, on the condition that once the Democratic Party gains power in any state or at a federal level, it should immediately begin a defined program of massive systematic reform, which includes reforms that make the system function with more than two parties. (No more first-past-the-post, approval voting FTW, among other solutions.) After that, the pro-life and pro-choice wings can safely part ways, but still opportunistically cooperate, without handing the entire government over to the fascists.

The GOP became the party of Trump due to vote-splitting; he won the 2016 primary with only 40% of the votes cast. The GOP didn&#39;t fix the problem, they doubled down. Can the Democrats instead learn the lesson that the fundamental problem is our election systems, and until that gets fixed, nothing else will?


Trump is out again promising to defeat the deep state by imposing greater ethics restrictions on people that work in government and transition to the private sector.

Probably worth reminding everyone of this:

Tru[mp frees former aides from ethics pledge, lobbying ban | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-lobbying-e911209abab83899eadd18b5776f6095)

It was all talk.  In the end, he removed the restrictions so they could all go back and profit.

About that ethics pledge

Trump is out again promising to defeat the deep state by imposing greater ethics restrictions on people that work in government and transition to the private sector.

Probably worth reminding everyone of this:

Trump frees former aides from ethics pledge, lobbying ban | AP News

It was all talk.  In the end, he removed the restrictions so they could all go back and profit.


I’m piggy backing off a comment I made in another post.

For context, I live in a small town in a blue state. I voted early and had no lines. My brother (who I trust) voted on Election Day and said he waited in line for almost 2 hours. During his wait, he said he saw hundreds of people turn around and go home because they didn’t want to wait in line. 53k people voted in my county. If hundreds of people I’m my small town saw the lines and turned around, that is ALOT of people. Now imagine all the people who stayed home because they saw long lines on the news. I truly believe that long lines turned a lot of voters off. How can we make voting faster?

Long voting lines = less voters


There are still 16.4MM votes left to be counted, half of which are coming from California. The total voter turnout when adding those 16.4MM will actually be slightly higher than 2020.

Turnout wasn’t the issue, more people just voted for Donald Trump this year than 2020…

Voter turnout was not the issue


OK, maybe this will change. But right now I’m feeling pretty sick of the left’s (my side’s) Trump outrage industry. Not just the broadcast legacy channels. The newer YouTube channels, also. Mockler, Beasley, Packman, among others. They seemed to bouy my moods as the election approached. Post election, however, the reality check says that each side dwelling in its own media messaging bubble is a bigger problem than I think we generally realized. It felt good but doesn’t do any good. No, I’m not surprised, but a new level is realized. Yesterday, Packman decried a post-election drop in subs. And can understand this apparent trend, if others are feeling like I am?

Trump Outrage Industrial Complex - Done?


"Soul Searching"


I know inflation has decreased, crime is down, jobs are up, pay is up, and gas is creeping down.

But I'm hoping to keep some news report as proof to how the economy has slowly started to recover before the next president.

Preferably not something directly *from* the government.

Is there a video or report for the US economy from the past year?

I know inflation has decreased, crime is down, jobs are up, pay is up, and gas is creeping down.

But I&#39;m hoping to keep some news report as proof to how the economy has slowly started to recover before the next president.

Preferably not something directly from the government.


By now, I think everyone in America is plainly recognizing that Donald Trump's symbiotic relationship with the media is the single reason he was reelected.

I stopped watching ALL cable news in 2016 and dove head first into NPR, PBS, podcasts and legacy media (real newspapers, the ones that are left, anyway).  When you do that, it's like hitting a refresh button on your brain. I am happier now and better informed about the world we ***REALLY*** live in.

Trumps world is the one that MSNBC and Fox both equally created for him, purely for ratings  and thus advertising dollars.
***Now, this is the ONLY THING we can take from him:*** Our attention.
I have been saying this ad nauseam since he first crafted the racist "Birther"  lie against Obama...
"Just ignore him and he will go away."
**NOBODY took my advice.**

But you are all ready to listen ***NOW***, aren't you?

Let's push the "now watch him self-destruct without always talking about him" narrative.

By now, I think everyone in America is plainly recognizing that Donald Trump&#39;s symbiotic relationship with the media is the single reason he was reelected.

I stopped watching ALL cable news in 2016 and dove head first into NPR, PBS, podcasts and legacy media (real newspapers, the ones that are left, anyway).  When you do that, it&#39;s like hitting a refresh button on your brain. I am happier now and better informed about the world we REALLY live in.

Trumps world is the one that MSNBC and Fox both equally created for him, purely for ratings  and thus advertising dollars.

Now, this is the ONLY THING we can take from him: Our attention.

I have been saying this ad nauseam since he first crafted the racist &quot;Birther&quot;  lie against Obama...

&quot;Just ignore him and he will go away.&quot;

NOBODY took my advice.

But you are all ready to listen NOW, aren&#39;t you?


I'm looking for honest advice and ideas on what the average person who wants a fair, stable world to live should do next (obviously I'm asking about legal activities and related to the big picture).

If you want to be sad or defeatist its ok, but please go elsewhere with "time to watch the world burn" "its too late we let this happen" comments because I'm sure plenty of people want to keep going.

Obviously things don't look good - both in the US and with the far right gaining some ground in Europe.

But I don't want to give up. Unexpected things happen that change situations, dangerous people can still make mistakes, plenty of good people exist who will do the right thing, sometimes even people you won't expect do the right thing briefly (like Mike Pence). Liberals have an advantage in that we tend to be smarter and more accepting of facts (although we're not perfect by any means).

What's the best thing people can do now, to maximise the chances of a good future in a world with a potentially unstable US?

A great one I've seen is people boycotting republican supporting companies.

This next one is just an example and is probably really stupid, so please provide some better ideas.
Obviously more sensible nations might have concerns about a second Trump presidency and might be keen to get immigrants from America. Organisations can be formed to help people emigrate - heck being trapped in an unstable country is a crisis worthy of the formation of a charitable organisation at this point. People can drive investment in more sensible nations so they stand a better chance of competing economically/technologically with a potentially unstable US in the future.
Social media is obviously playing a role in misinforming people - left wing creators could figure out how to counter this.

Anyway, what are people's thoughts? What can I do as an ordinary person to help? If you don't have anything constructive to say please don't say it.

Seeking constructive advice on what to do now

I&#39;m looking for honest advice and ideas on what the average person who wants a fair, stable world to live should do next (obviously I&#39;m asking about legal activities and related to the big picture).

If you want to be sad or defeatist its ok, but please go elsewhere with &quot;time to watch the world burn&quot; &quot;its too late we let this happen&quot; comments because I&#39;m sure plenty of people want to keep going.

Obviously things don&#39;t look good - both in the US and with the far right gaining some ground in Europe.

But I don&#39;t want to give up. Unexpected things happen that change situations, dangerous people can still make mistakes, plenty of good people exist who will do the right thing, sometimes even people you won&#39;t expect do the right thing briefly (like Mike Pence). Liberals have an advantage in that we tend to be smarter and more accepting of facts (although we&#39;re not perfect by any means).

What&#39;s the best thing people can do now, to maximise the chances of a good future in a world with a potentially unstable US?

A great one I&#39;ve seen is people boycotting republican supporting companies.

This next one is just an example and is probably really stupid, so please provide some better ideas.

Obviously more sensible nations might have concerns about a second Trump presidency and might be keen to get immigrants from America. Organisations can be formed to help people emigrate - heck being trapped in an unstable country is a crisis worthy of the formation of a charitable organisation at this point. People can drive investment in more sensible nations so they stand a better chance of competing economically/technologically with a potentially unstable US in the future.

Social media is obviously playing a role in misinforming people - left wing creators could figure out how to counter this.

Anyway, what are people&#39;s thoughts? What can I do as an ordinary person to help? If you don&#39;t have anything constructive to say please don&#39;t say it.


I (22M) am rather blunt on my instagram account, and I have to resolve some complaints and decisive questions for me from me peers (friends, high school alumni, fellow scene musicians).

My statement can be summarized as follows:

I am a Taiwanese-American dual citizen who could not care less about which western politician digs their own country's grave, I only take interest when Taiwan and South Korea are at risk of being buried in said grave. I did not vote for Trump, and I did not vote for Harris, therefore I did not vote against LGBTQ and women's interests nor did I vote against gun owners', and constitutionalist's interests. (I will not tell anyone if I voted third party or if I just left the presidential candidate slot blank). The only thing left to do is work with what we got, that if we intelligently advocate and carefully act, we can still convince the administration to change some of their decisions for the better.

And after the predicted response stating that Trump's administration is intent on implementing fascist policy, I ask the question: if there is an actual imminent threat of fascism, are you going to become the modern day French Resistance? Will you take up arms or at least support the insurgency's war effort?

I asked that question on my instagram story, I put it as a caption overlaid on the [French Resistance drive by scene](https://youtu.be/iMrk0twBLd8?si=lbQSz2cuESkbRb58&t=55) from the Great Escape movie, and on the next slides included [Squad gameplay](https://youtu.be/npNMxeRCZ74?si=Zy_B07Rhrs5_RF5V&t=92) and [Ukrainian infantry machine gunner footage](https://youtu.be/wVYXa3zN2As?si=sFK5uExQm67Jykvx&t=325) to emphasize what real world warfare could be like.

People are traumatized, and I want to reassure them that there is hope in saving the US from tyranny, but I also have to be realistic and showcase a possible worst case scenario and what it would take to defeat martial law imposed by the administration.

How should I best approach this situation? I may be a relatively westernized ABC, but I still have a different mindset than most Americans. I could use some help finding ways to help my peers.

How do I provide support and reassurance to my peers while maintaining my stance of realism?

I (22M) am rather blunt on my instagram account, and I have to resolve some complaints and decisive questions for me from me peers (friends, high school alumni, fellow scene musicians).

My statement can be summarized as follows:

I am a Taiwanese-American dual citizen who could not care less about which western politician digs their own country&#39;s grave, I only take interest when Taiwan and South Korea are at risk of being buried in said grave. I did not vote for Trump, and I did not vote for Harris, therefore I did not vote against LGBTQ and women&#39;s interests nor did I vote against gun owners&#39;, and constitutionalist&#39;s interests. (I will not tell anyone if I voted third party or if I just left the presidential candidate slot blank). The only thing left to do is work with what we got, that if we intelligently advocate and carefully act, we can still convince the administration to change some of their decisions for the better.

And after the predicted response stating that Trump&#39;s administration is intent on implementing fascist policy, I ask the question: if there is an actual imminent threat of fascism, are you going to become the modern day French Resistance? Will you take up arms or at least support the insurgency&#39;s war effort?

I asked that question on my instagram story, I put it as a caption overlaid on the French Resistance drive by scene from the Great Escape movie, and on the next slides included Squad gameplay and Ukrainian infantry machine gunner footage to emphasize what real world warfare could be like.

People are traumatized, and I want to reassure them that there is hope in saving the US from tyranny, but I also have to be realistic and showcase a possible worst case scenario and what it would take to defeat martial law imposed by the administration.

How should I best approach this situation? I may be a relatively westernized ABC, but I still have a different mindset than most Americans. I could use some help finding ways to help my peers.


Anybody else getting nervous about how Trump and Elon said they were going to trash the economy immediately and now Elon is moving all his kids and baby mommas to a compound? I'm thinking about starting to stockpile supplies. Talk me down.

Prepping

Anybody else getting nervous about how Trump and Elon said they were going to trash the economy immediately and now Elon is moving all his kids and baby mommas to a compound? I&#39;m thinking about starting to stockpile supplies. Talk me down.


Hi everyone! I was hoping for recommendations on cities in BLUE states that are

1. progressive
2. friendly to racial and sexual minorities
3. on the more affordable side
5. diverse

I am a disabled mixed white and native woman and my partner is a black man. We are living in Georgia and want to move somewhere where my reproductive rights are protected and we are respected and safe. Thanks :)

Progressive cities to move to in the U.S?

Hi everyone! I was hoping for recommendations on cities in BLUE states that are

progressive

friendly to racial and sexual minorities

on the more affordable side

diverse

I am a disabled mixed white and native woman and my partner is a black man. We are living in Georgia and want to move somewhere where my reproductive rights are protected and we are respected and safe. Thanks :)


I'm going to do my best to talk about something that needs to be talked about without breaking the rules. If I fail at that hopefully enough people will see it before this gets deleted.

I see a lot of talk about fascism and project 2025 throughout our left-leaning public spheres. However, what I don't see is anyone talking about the fact that fascism, by definition, is distinguished from other forms of totalitarian governments by its glorification and use of political violence.

If you truly think that we are witnessing the emergence of American facism, you see political violence as not merely a possiblity but a certainty. I'm not attempting to make a claim here for or against fascism being on the horizon, just that is what saying that it is would imply.

I hope that helps highlight one key thing that conservatives have absolutely been screaming from the rooftops for as long as I can remember and that they absolutely nailed on the head. The 2nd amendment is critical to the survival of democracy. If you wait until there is no question that we live under a fascist regime to prepare you will be SOL.

This is not a call to violence! This is simply highlighting the FACT that our constitution has provisions to prevent our country from ever regressing to totalitarian governing, of which fascism is the most insidious. I hope this doesn't get censored and I hope this can shift some minds to understanding why conservatives have for so long refused to sacrifice any ground when it comes to gun rights. Those rights belong to you too and I hope you don't squander them thinking it'll never be necessary.

What separates totalitarian nationalism from fascism.

I&#39;m going to do my best to talk about something that needs to be talked about without breaking the rules. If I fail at that hopefully enough people will see it before this gets deleted.

I see a lot of talk about fascism and project 2025 throughout our left-leaning public spheres. However, what I don&#39;t see is anyone talking about the fact that fascism, by definition, is distinguished from other forms of totalitarian governments by its glorification and use of political violence.

If you truly think that we are witnessing the emergence of American facism, you see political violence as not merely a possiblity but a certainty. I&#39;m not attempting to make a claim here for or against fascism being on the horizon, just that is what saying that it is would imply.

I hope that helps highlight one key thing that conservatives have absolutely been screaming from the rooftops for as long as I can remember and that they absolutely nailed on the head. The 2nd amendment is critical to the survival of democracy. If you wait until there is no question that we live under a fascist regime to prepare you will be SOL.

This is not a call to violence! This is simply highlighting the FACT that our constitution has provisions to prevent our country from ever regressing to totalitarian governing, of which fascism is the most insidious. I hope this doesn&#39;t get censored and I hope this can shift some minds to understanding why conservatives have for so long refused to sacrifice any ground when it comes to gun rights. Those rights belong to you too and I hope you don&#39;t squander them thinking it&#39;ll never be necessary.


Any advice on where to start educating myself in politics. This past 2024 election I was mostly concerned with the social issues involved and so my voting reflected that. However in the future I’d like a more fundamental understanding about policies and how it affects the economy. Any advice on where to get accurate information/ education would be appreciated. My college requirements have thus far only had me take one economics class so I’d say I have some of the basics but still have a lot to learn. I’d appreciate any advice, please be respectful of my ignorance:)

Advice


I'm cautious of shouting, "they're cheating," for obvious reasons, and simply the fact that Dems lost is certainly not evidence of any misconduct. But there are some things that don't seem to add up. Mostly that this year showed record levels of new voter registrations, but a drop in actual voters. That's weird, right?

This guy did a whole write up: https://www.gregpalast.com/heres-what-we-do-now/

So my question is simply, could there be something to this?

I don't for 1 second doubt that Republicans would find a way to cheat, or at least find a way to bend the rules on their favor, if they could. After all, "every allegation is a confession."

But could they? Is this realistic? And is anyone official looking into it?

Are voter fraud allegations realistic?

I&#39;m cautious of shouting, &quot;they&#39;re cheating,&quot; for obvious reasons, and simply the fact that Dems lost is certainly not evidence of any misconduct. But there are some things that don&#39;t seem to add up. Mostly that this year showed record levels of new voter registrations, but a drop in actual voters. That&#39;s weird, right?

This guy did a whole write up: https://www.gregpalast.com/heres-what-we-do-now/

So my question is simply, could there be something to this?

I don&#39;t for 1 second doubt that Republicans would find a way to cheat, or at least find a way to bend the rules on their favor, if they could. After all, &quot;every allegation is a confession.&quot;

But could they? Is this realistic? And is anyone official looking into it?


Title says it all. I’m not going anywhere. I was born here and I’ll die here. Quit being scared and take action. It’s time for all of us to actually stand up and be active about what we believe in.

Texas Liberal


I would like to boycott as many companies that support the GOP as possible. I don't want my money to go to them. I was wondering if anyone had a list they could share?

Does anyone have a list of republican supporting companies?

I would like to boycott as many companies that support the GOP as possible. I don&#39;t want my money to go to them. I was wondering if anyone had a list they could share?


I’m defeated and scared. There are no guardrails this time. They have the house, senate, presidency and Supreme Court. He also has freaking immunity. There are no 4 star generals to protect us this time. Just yes men.

How is everyone feeling?