uh the girls joined they have two girls one joined the Girl Scouts and the other was in the Brownies  and then the mother got involved as a leader and then all of a sudden the father was getting involved with  doing nature hikes for them and working with the Girl Scout camp here in Dallas and then going out to  um Betty Perot Camp and working with the horses and stuff and they're gone a lot and they take their girls and they go away for weekends and  in the winter time even you know to do work with the Girl Scouts and i think it's neat