crime in the cities and i guess in some of the rural areas too seems to be going up i don't know it'll ever go down on any steady basis uh more people more opportunities and somewhat of a lessened uh sensitivity toward it it's almost um you know it's almost expected that that's going to occur and there's not quite the shock any more especially the so-called littler things where people tend to steal a little time at work or steal a few supplies or uh the whole defense industry's had some problems in that realm even the CEO's tend to steal a little of that here and there and uh then you get into whole areas of crime like drug usage and organized crime and as far as steps to reduce it uh i'm not sure that there's anything that hasn't been tried we might have ought to come up with something new if we could but uh you can't keep throwing money at it and