#kubuntu-devel 2005-08-01 <Mez> allee, again, thanks :D <allee> why thx twice? :) <Mez> oh, <Mez> lol <Mez> I came back and like, saw a highlight and thought it was recent <Riddell> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main <Riddell> testers please <Riddell> \sh_away: first task as main dude is working out why the heck kdepim won't compile http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/tmp/kdepim-3.4.2.tar.bz2 <Riddell> (don't use the debian directory in that tar file) <\sh> Riddell: u worked to much :) <JRe> cool 3.5 branch has been created <JRe> =) <JRe> mmm big thread about feature freeze on kde-devel :) <\sh> hey JRe <JRe> hi \sh <\sh> when can we see u as a motu? :) <insanekane> Riddell: why was the KDE front-end removed from Debconf ? <insanekane> hi \sh :) <\sh> huhu insanekane <insanekane> :) <JRe> Riddell: is there any official tarball for icecream ar may i create one by co the svn ? <Riddell> JRe: create one <JRe> Riddell: ok! <Tonio-> Riddell: you wanted testers -> I am with 3.4.2 for on hour testing and everything seems fine ;) <Tonio-> no bugs relevated at the moment... <Tonio-> Just migrated my second PC, this one, and that's seems okay too. <Riddell> Tonio-: woo! thanks :) <Tonio-> a little bug with the klauncher applet seems to be resolved, nice ;) <JRe> Tonio-: there is 3.4.2 packages or you have compiled the branche ? <Tonio-> Riddell: As you've asked me to tell you, after many tries (need to learn...), it seems okay now, and I submited many packages on REVU <Tonio-> JRe: Riddell has given the repo params <Tonio-> give me one sec <JRe> Tonio-: thanks =) <Tonio-> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main <JRe> Riddell: you have another tester =) <Tonio-> amazing, cause 3.4.2 doesn't even seem to be officially released.... <JRe> Riddell: thanks for the packages <Riddell> Tonio-: released later today, that's why I need testers <Tonio-> Riddell: okay, I'll let you know if I have any problem... <Tonio-> nice new system icon ;) hehe <JRe> Tonio-: you have updated from 3.4.1 or from 3.4.0 ? <Tonio-> 3.4.1 <allee> Riddell: 3.4.1 -> 3.4.2 went well. No problem playing with it yet <Riddell> awooga <\sh> kdebase is missing * \sh runs ,-) <Riddell> \sh: it's there for hoary, it's not going to compile for breezy withou xmkmf <\sh> Riddell: I know...I need it as well <Riddell> news just in: no other distribution has made packages so they're delaying the release until tomorrow <JRe> Riddell: how can i sign a package builded with pbuilder? <JRe> Riddell: in order to have it uploaded into REVU <allee> JRe: debsign <JRe> allee: thanks =) <\sh> debuild -S -sa <\sh> is ok <\sh> Riddell: gentoo folks asked me, if we already have 3.4.2 ,-) <JRe> \sh: say no otherwise they'll be to disapointed =) <JRe> \sh: are you still developpingyour bittorrent front end ? <JRe> Riddell: ow BTW have you seen that mornfall have improved kapture (ept now) <insanekane> isnt there one already ? a nice QTorrent ? also, there is a KDE Torrent client iirc <JRe> is there anyone named anthony mercatante here ??? <JRe> these guy have uploaded an impressive number of KDE packages on REVU, even that already exists <Mez> Riddell - where's the 3.4.2 files for haory#/ <JRe> Mez: [11:29] <Tonio-> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main <Mez> ty <JRe> Okay anthony mercatante is tonio <JRe> Riddell: you now why Tonio has replaced my packaging stuff which has already been packaged ? <JRe> mmm wrong phrase =) <JRe> why he's packaging stuff which i have already packaged =) <Mez> whats witht eh KDE packages in REVU <JRe> Mez: ??? <Mez> katalog, kbootsplash etc etc <JRe> Mez: Tonio seems to have uploaded a bunch of packages <JRe> Mez: the same day <JRe> Mez: he have even uploaded package that already where on REVU =) =) <JRe> s/where/were/ <Mez> link to duplicates? <JRe> ktvschedule <JRe> krecipes <JRe> (i have reuploaded krecipes without seeing it was already here because it was a new upstream) <Mez> lol <Mez> well... <Mez> his packaging need a bit of fine tuning <Mez> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=191&text=in+changelog%2C+distribution+should+be+breezy%2C+not+unstable.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn+diff+there+are+.guess+and+.sub%2C+these+shouldn%27t+be+there+%28make+clean+before+you+package%29 <JRe> Mez: yeah he seems to have made a chain packaging =) <JRe> Mez: tough i am impressed by so many package in that short time <Mez> lol <JRe> Mez: the first one was on July 27, 04:50 last one July 27, 10:00 <Mez> lol <Mez> well, I'm posting the same on all his packages at the mo <JRe> Mez: i have reposted ktvschedule <JRe> Mez: so don't comment this one =) <Mez> JRe, already commented it :P <Mez> on both of your uploads <Mez> you need source upload :D <JRe> Mez: sure =) <JRe> Mez: you know how to deal with the gpg-agent issue ? <Mez> what issue? <JRe> Mez: Enter passphrase: gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use <Mez> never heard of it <Mez> never had it * <JRe> Mez: =) <JRe> Mez: you think that i can use pdebuild --debbuildopts -S -sa will be fine ? <Mez> JRe, once you know it builds, jiust debuild -S -sa <Mez> IT's a source build, it doenst try and compile anything <JRe> Mez: okay <Mez> it basically does what pdebuild does before it gets to the pbuilder <JRe> Mez: damn gpg error debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... <Mez> lol <Mez> check if the Changleog is the same as your GPG key <JRe> Mez: yes it is =) <Mez> hmm <Mez> lol <Mez> just sign it manually <Mez> debisgn *_source.changes <Mez> debsign *_source.changes <Mez> JRe, try reinstalling gpg <Mez> or download my version of it <Mez> assuming you're using hoary <JRe> Mez: yes it mon hoary <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/hoary/ <Mez> download the gpg backport and try that <JRe> Mez: ok! thanks! <JRe> Mez: (ATM i sign it manually) <Mez> lol <JRe> Mez: thanks for the tips =) <Mez> ;) <JRe> Mez: and for the backport =) <Mez> hehe <Mez> I did it ages ago <allee> JRe: plain hoary debsign works here. check gpg-agent is running and check the file:pid: as given is GPG_AGENT_INFO <allee> JRe: Does 'normal' signing with debuild work? <Mez> JRe, krecipes - you package this from scratch - or get from upstream/ <JRe> Mez: from scratch <Mez> ok <JRe> allee: jre 6988 0.0 0.3 4280 756 ? Ss 09:44 0:00 gpg-agent --daemon <JRe> allee: /tmp/gpg-uEUWBz/S.gpg-agent:6988:1 <KabelKasper> Riddell: Just upgraded to KDE 3.4.2, only problem i got was arts wich depends on an uninstallable libarts1c2 <Riddell> KabelKasper: in hoary? <KabelKasper> Yes, I used http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ <Riddell> hmm, ok <Riddell> hmm, yes, how did that happen <JRe> KabelKasper: you upgrade from 3.4.0 or 3.4.1 ? <KabelKasper> from 3.4.1 <Riddell> and how did nobody else notice that including me <JRe> mmm strange <Riddell> spooky <JRe> Mez: the second time i upload to REVU, no need to upload orig.gz anymore, right ? <Mez> er, always upload, <Mez> It's best <Mez> lo0l <JRe> Mez: =) =) <Mez> just dput revu *_source.changes <Mez> cause then when you upload the .orig <Mez> it makes life easier to review it <Riddell> should be arts fixes now if someone could check <KabelKasper> Riddell: Thanks, now it works ;) <Riddell> KabelKasper: phew <allee> Riddell: thumb up ;) <Riddell> now somebody tell me my kdepim doesn't link <allee> Riddell: I've played a bit with kontact, no problems <allee> Riddell: but logout login for a new arts check and now I have 2 gpg-agents running :( <je4d> Riddell: on the off chance you've heard of this issue before: I've got a fresh ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop install here, and anything that uses the http kioslave is freezing <Riddell> je4d: hoary? <je4d> Riddell: yea <Riddell> je4d: with any updates? <je4d> ftp.kde.org's 3.4.1 packages, but it was happening without them <je4d> aswell as the official hoary-updates repo <Riddell> how strange, never heard of that <je4d> also, I can't get kde apps to give debug output on the command line, all the stuff in kdebugdialog is ignored - but i guess this is the intent? <je4d> i'm currently grabbing a copy of kdelibs from 3_4_branch hoping it'll fix it <Riddell> je4d: you could try the 3.4.2 packages <Riddell> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main <je4d> are there any known issues with those packages? <Riddell> nope <je4d> cool. just checking, since this is my @work box <je4d> Riddell: installed kdelibs from there, all is better (: <Riddell> je4d: phew <je4d> yea - i can put firefox away now and go back to konq.. it was driving me nuts <je4d> thanks for the repo.. when's that going to be moved to ftp.kde.org? <Riddell> je4d: it's already there (but you can't see it until 3.4.2 is released) <je4d> ok, i'll wait for the "latest" link to be updated befor grabbing the rest (people don't like me chewing up the office's bandwidth :P) <je4d> .. d.k.o says 3.4.2 is today - what time are we announcing? <Riddell> je4d: delayed until tomorrow <JRe> is it possible to have two different pbuilder chroot installed in the same time ??? (like one for breezy, one for hoary) <Riddell> not honestly sure <JRe> Riddell: it's possible to have two chroot installed in the same time with pbuilder <JRe> Riddell: using --basetgz <Riddell> there you go then JRe <Riddell> there you go then je4d <JRe> Riddell: yeah pbuilder do really _rocks_ <JRe> Riddell: when i'll be able to really use it, i'll update PbuilderHowto because i think it's interessant, ok ? <JRe> s/interessant/interesting/ <JRe> (damn frenglish) <Riddell> JRe: formidable <je4d> Riddell: ? <Riddell> je4d: tab completion weirdness <je4d> :P <apokryphos> Why doesn't Kubuntu use backports instead of another kubuntu.org repo? <Riddell> apokryphos: that's something I may look in to <Riddell> i18n packages up on dev.kubuntu if someone could test them <sebas> Riddell: Do you have 3.4.2 packaged? :) <sebas> I.e. are the packages already available for us mere mortals? <Riddell> 11:25 < JRe> Mez: [11:29] <Tonio-> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main <sebas> Lovely. <KabelKasper> Riddell: Maybe I found a sceond issue? kde-i18n-de depends on kdelibs4c2 but its not installable. <KabelKasper> Or is it me who makes somewhat wrong? <KabelKasper> same for other language packs <Riddell> KabelKasper: thanks for spotting that. I'm sure I had changed that but seems not. fixing <Riddell> KabelKasper: try now <KabelKasper> Riddell: Good work! :) <Riddell> review day tomorrow <Riddell> send stuff to revu #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-02 <cartel_> hi guys <Riddell> hello cartel_ <cartel_> hey riddell does breezy have kde 3.5 testing? <Riddell> cartel_: nope <Riddell> feel free to make packages :) <cartel_> bugger :) <JRe> Riddell: it seems that KDE 3.5 will be out about end of october <Riddell> JRe: yeah, too late for breezy unfortunatly <JRe> :( <Riddell> well, I'll make packages :) <JRe> Riddell: cooooooool ;) <Riddell> any breezy users around? <JRe> no <JRe> just a chroot :) <Riddell> wise man <allee> Riddell: yes. I've breezy on my testing box <Riddell> allee: could you install arts (-0ubuntu3) <Riddell> allee: run killall artsd && artsd and see if it works * allee booting into breezy <allee> Riddel: sh*t: x doesn't start: (EE) No Input driver matching `keyboard' Is this known bug? I'll try to fix it <Riddell> sounds about right for breezy, although for me it's the fonts that don't work <Riddell> allee: does artsd run? (it doesn't need X) <allee> Riddell: yes and I can artsplay KDE_Startup.wav <Riddell> allee: great, thanks <allee> np * allee regrets doing dist-upgrade instead of install <allee> fwiw driver s/keyboard/kbd/ fixed xorg.conf <Riddell> allee: what are your font paths set to? <allee> to /usr/share/X11/fonts/<whatever> <Riddell> 3.4.2 out http://dot.kde.org/1122553679 <JRe> cool <KabelKasper> Riddell: Are you the maintainer of the amarok packages? <Riddell> KabelKasper: in ubuntu yes <KabelKasper> Hmm, what do you think of hiding the 'delete file' entry in right mouse click menu? <KabelKasper> I think it's very dangerous and unexpected inside an audioplayer. <apokryphos> It's really useful. Qiute liked it -- good integration with KDE. It's not as if it doesn't prompt you to delete... <Riddell> that should be move to wastebin <Riddell> KabelKasper: did you accidently delete something? <KabelKasper> Or it should depend on the option inside kcontrol (for kde) <JRe> KabelKasper: amaroK don't have a KCM hopfully <JRe> KabelKasper: but i agree it would be better to move to the trash <KabelKasper> No not me, not so far. ;) <KabelKasper> There is an option in KControl Menu of the 'File Manger' - 'Behavior'"Show 'delete' context menu entries...". Would be cool if it depends on this setting. <KabelKasper> Riddell: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ? <Riddell> hmm, maybe. I still think a "move to wastebin" would be fine <Riddell> KabelKasper: fancy opening a wishlist on bugs.kde.org? <KabelKasper> Riddell: I could add it to the wishlist tomorrow, first I have to learn for an examination. <KabelKasper> ciao <Riddell> good luck <KabelKasper> Thanks. I will need luck :) <JRe> KabelKasper: so good good luck <Riddell> sebas: I'm looking at kdesdk now <sebas> Riddell: What's that? :) <\sh> Riddell: r u getting all kde bugs automatically assign in bugzilla? <\sh> assigned even.. <Riddell> \sh: if they go through the kubuntu link on bugzilla they get kubuntu as QA <Riddell> think that's the only automatic assignment currently <\sh> ah ok.. <sebas> Riddell: In which package should libkdeinit_cvsaskpass.so be? <sebas> I still don't have it after updating. <Riddell> sebas: cervisia <sebas> Ah, that didn't upgrade ... <sebas> ii cervisia 3.4.2-0ubuntu1 a graphical CVS front end for KDE <sebas> I've this one. <Riddell> sebas: the german mirror is probably behind <Riddell> should be 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 <sebas> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main <sebas> I'm using this one, is that the german mirror? <Riddell> hmm, no... <Riddell> how did that get there <Riddell> sebas: on hoary it should be 0ubuntu0hoary2 <Riddell> sebas: try an apt-get update now <sebas> Yeah, I see it in Packages.gz, it doesn't get updated however. <Riddell> sebas: if you have ubuntu1 installed you'll have to apt-get remove it and then apt-get install again <sebas> Nothing. <sebas> That did it, thx :) <Riddell> those ubuntu1 files are a bit spooky. ah well gone now <Riddell> thanks for testing sebas <sebas> Thanks for fixing. #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-03 <Tonio-> Hi there ;) <Tonio-> Anyone here having the repo for kde 3.4.2 ? <Riddell> Tonio-: see kubuntu.org <Tonio-> Already public ? <Tonio-> I thought it was still testing <Tonio-> Ho yeah, officialy released by kde today ! nice ;) Thanks a lot <Tonio-> Riddell: I'm just packaging ksystemlog cleanly. <Tonio-> I'm telling you this because I know you are interesseted in adding it to the next version of livecd <Riddell> Tonio-: actually I've already tidied up your ksystemlog package <Riddell> on revu <Tonio-> yep but it isn't compliant is it ? i'm checking <Tonio-> Riddell: I'm actually preparing a new package who might be correct ;) <Tonio-> I have done my first policy compliant package yesterday so it might be okay now, I have the technique lol <Tonio-> Riddell: I'll be posted in one hour max... <Mez> Riddell, ping <Riddell> Mez: toot <Mez> can you have a look at the k3b-i18n package in REVU <Mez> it's confusing the hell outta me <Mez> the thing says I'm referring to arch dependent packages <Mez> but I dont refer to arch dependt packages <Mez> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/k3b-i18n-0507281510/k3b-i18n-0.12.2/debian/control <Riddell> which thing says that? <Mez> lintian <Mez> fecjk <Mez> (>=0.12) <Mez> not (>= 0.12) <Mez> that was prob what it was bitching about <Riddell> Mez: still need me to look at it or will you upload a fixed version? <Mez> Riddell, uploaded, just waiting for REVU to proces itr <Mez> Riddell, http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=253 <Mez> I would upload it myself... but still wiating :D <Riddell> Tonio-: klibido looks good, I'm going to advocate it <Tonio-> okay ;) thanks <Riddell> wow, dholbach is strict <Riddell> Mez: are you able to advocate stuff yet? <Tonio-> yep, amazigly strict ;) It helped making great progress but sometime I must say I'm confused of what to do... <Tonio-> I cannot ask to the developper to clean his source code for ubuntu addition should I ?? ^_^ <Riddell> Tonio-: you can send polite comments back to the developers yes :) <Tonio-> okay, well not a problem with pwmanager whom I contact very often... <Tonio-> What file is concerned by this comment ? you should talk to upstream about how serious these two messages are: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/lib/kde3/kded_pwmanager_kwalletemu.so /usr/lib <Tonio-> I searched quickly but didn't find where it was... <Riddell> Tonio-: that's a lintian error, but I don't get any such error <Riddell> lintian foo.deb and lintian foo.dsc <Tonio-> I don't to.... this is the reason U wasn't able to find.... <Riddell> Tonio-: pwmanager good too.. advocating <Tonio-> nice ;) <Mez> Riddell, yes <Riddell> who is douglassanchez@example.org? <Mez> dholbach is very very strict ridell :D <Riddell> Mez: fancy advocating ksystemlog, pwmanager and klibido then? <Tonio-> Riddell: no need to rebuilt ksystemlog so I'll probably add kmplayer and klamav today or tomorow <Riddell> Tonio-: cool <Mez> Riddell - muszilla=Andreas Mussgiller <Tonio-> Mez: yep amazingly, but for personns like who are learning packaging this is a very good way to learn also ! <Riddell> Mez: is he on IRC? <Tonio-> hum guys, little question concerning sources modifications... <Mez> Riddell, no idea <Mez> and for ksystemlog, it was agreed that <Mez> Debian package: <Mez> Copyright 2005 Jonathan Riddell <douglassanchez@example.org> <Mez> shoudlnt be there <Tonio-> If I have for example CVS folders to remove, should that be done with a cdbs patch or would you do directly in the sources ? <Mez> This package was debianized by Jonathan Riddell <douglassanchez@example.org> on <Mez> Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:41:21 +0200. <Mez> then another saying same thing <Mez> It's not right <Mez> and packaging cant be "copyrighted" <Mez> as it's all based off of dh_make in the first place <Mez> :D <Tonio-> I may post a new version exactly done like klibido don't you wan't ? <Riddell> Mez: it's not based off dh_make <Mez> it will have been at some point :d <Tonio-> I have ksystemlog right now on the computer.... <Mez> but yeah, the copyright for the package shouldnt be there tecnically <Riddell> Tonio-: I'd remove CVS directories to sources before making the .orig file <Mez> I asked this earlier, cause it seemed wrong to have ti twice, and ogra said it shouldnt really be tyhere <Tonio-> okay, so I'll keep doning this and maybe mention that to the changelog <Riddell> why not? <Riddell> Tonio-: if dh gives you hassle get me to poke him :) <Mez> Riddell: cause it already says who it was packaged by right abve that <Tonio-> hehe ^^ <Riddell> Mez: but doesn't say who it's copyright to <Mez> Riddell: I don't see how you can copyright a package <Tonio-> he should be in gentoo community or even freebsd ^^ <Mez> seeing as someone will have at some point dont exactly the same thing <Mez> and unless you apply a licence to the packaging of it <Mez> it means noone can work on the package <Tonio-> Riddell: appart from that he send me an email saying he was fine finding a newbie making efforts and encourgaging me a lot... <Tonio-> strict but very nice guy I must say ;) <Mez> Riddell, I've not seen a single package dh has liked <Riddell> dh is lovely really :) <Mez> he';s a good guy <Tonio-> I looked at revues to find error not to commit and I must say I didn't saw one dh's "yes" advocating ;) <Mez> just very strict and seems to be able to get any package and list a massive long list of faults <Mez> brb <Tonio-> <Riddell> dh is lovely really :) -> from what I've read I must say I completly agree ;) <Mez> Riddell, I already advocated pwmanager <Tonio-> And in a MOTU's school he would be the perfect teacher I think... Lokk at his revu and you can learn a lot concerning the specific points to look at. <Mez> oh, and Tonio- sorry for the load of "copy and paste" reviews :D <Riddell> Mez: ah, so you did <Mez> and klibido <Mez> Riddell, can you advocate ? <Tonio-> Mez, I really want to learn making good packages... I learned a lot that way, so that's perfectly okay to me <Mez> Tonio-, I was hoping youd see it that way and not me just slating your packages <Mez> I did add a couple of comments on the ones I saw with other problems than the c&p ones, have a poke around them <Mez> like the zlib/bzlib one :D <Riddell> Mez: yes but it silently doesn't add it if I just tick the box without a comment, silly of it <Mez> lol <Mez> Tonio-, you do check that these build on breezy dpon't you? <Tonio-> nope, I don't know how to get the breezy packages list <Tonio-> I just wanted to ask how to be sure that a package isn't already added <Tonio-> so how ? ^^ <Mez> Tonio - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PBuilderHowto <Mez> hmmles <Mez> why were package archived that havent been uploaded <Tonio-> hu ? I look but didn't find.... <Tonio-> let me check once more <Riddell> Mez: k3b-i18n doesn't package if you debuild then debuild -S <Tonio-> Mez: what does "to slate" means ? <Tonio-> no forget -> google.com ;) <Mez> Riddell: can you upload php4-universe for me? <Tonio-> Mez: I didn't read correctly, so yes, I'm building packages with pbuilder from the beggining according to Riddell advices <Tonio-> sorry for the confusion, I didn'"t pratice much english for 5 years and sometime I'mm not understanding everything correctly hehe ^^ <Mez> Riddell, wtf are uncleaned gmo files? <Tonio-> hum, same stupid question <Tonio-> If I wanna add an application, how to know if it is already in breezy ? <Tonio-> Is downloading packages.gz on the repo the only solution ? <Riddell> Mez: dpkg-source: cannot represent change to zh_CN/messages/libk3bdevice.gmo: binary file contents changed <Mez> Tonio-, packages.ubuntu.com <Mez> Riddell, I have NO idea what that means :D <Riddell> Mez: do a debuild then a debuild -S <Riddell> it doesn't remove all the generated files <Tonio-> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH good ! <Mez> Riddell - am trying <Mez> and Riddell - how do i fix that <Riddell> Mez: quick fix would be adding find . -name *gmo | xargs rm to debian/rules clean <Riddell> bit of a kludge but <Mez> Riddell: your hoary 3.4.2.packages are b0rked <Mez> The following packages have unmet dependencies: <Mez> libarts1-dev: Depends: libarts1c2 (= 1.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1) but it is not going to be installed <Mez> libarts1c2: Conflicts: libarts1 but 1.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1 is to be installed <Riddell> Mez: that's not good <Mez> lol <Mez> and it also breaks on an upgrade too <Mez> and, to try and remove it, you have to remove EVERYTHING in kubuntu :D <Riddell> Mez: where are you getting it from? <Mez> mez@apathy:/backports/arena/k3b-i38n/k3b-i18n-0.12.2$ apt-cache madison libarts1c2 <Mez> libarts1c2 | 1.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1 | http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk hoary-updates/main Packages <Mez> mez@apathy:/backports/arena/k3b-i38n/k3b-i18n-0.12.2$ <Tonio-> hum, just building kmplayer with possibly mplayer support, doesn't mplayer has dev package just like xine or gstreamer ? <Riddell> Mez: there was an old version that had arts problems but the current packages look fine to me <Mez> ah, seems i got that version <Mez> did an update and lots shineh new packages <Mez> Riddell, you know, I've only noticed one change <Mez> and thats the "system places" icon has changes <Mez> Riddell, can you upload php4-universe for me pleasE :D <Mez> oh god <Mez> someone REALLY needs a life <Riddell> who? <Mez> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kitchensync * Mez shakes head <Mez> lol <Mez> wheover thought up that name <Riddell> cornelius I think :) <Mez> KDE: Everything includig the Kitchen Sink (spelling may vary) <Mez> Riddell, you still need ops on #kubuntu ? <Riddell> Mez: dunno, depends if there are going to be trouble makers there <Riddell> what is php4-universe? <Mez> it was originally a rebuild cvause of UnmentDeps <Mez> but had to change it a lil to fix it :D <Riddell> has it been uploaded before? <Mez> yeah, it's not a new package <Mez> I just dont have my upload access yet <Mez> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=1&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=php4-universe&searchon=sourcenames <Riddell> why is it called universe? <Mez> Riddell: I'd suggest nikkia as an op in #kubuntu if you need one. They're give very good quality support <Mez> Riddell, because it provides PHP packages that arent needed in main <Mez> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/php4 <Mez> vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/php4-universe <Riddell> nikkia looks like a girl from england, sure you're not just trying to chat her up? :) <Mez> Riddell, no, I have a gf :D <Mez> (and i didnt know she was from engladn I just know she gives good support) <Riddell> she's ignoring my /msg <Mez> and mine :D <Mez> what you say <Riddell> just said hi <Riddell> she probably gets that a lot :) <Mez> she doesnt see /msgs <Mez> ircssi <Riddell> irssi, should pick them up fine <Mez> Riddell, just to quash the rumours your spreading <Mez> <Riddell> nikkia looks like a girl from england, sure you're not just trying to chat her up? :) <Mez> why would I need to when I have this --> http://www.cheesenibbles.com/files/mez/emily.jpg <Mez> anyways <Mez> night <fromoze> Hi, just a comment about 3.4.2. I see the kcontrol isn't in the kmenu. I'm agree to use the preferences on System-Menu; but I'm disagree with no more acces to kcontrol. I'm adding a kcontrol launcher in kmenu-->System. <fromoze> IMHO, kcontrol is easier for old-school kde user... <Mez> I think that's to make the way for kde-systemsettings <Mez> and it was forgotten about in 3.4.2 <fromoze> ok, i see, I didn't have the package kde-systemsettings installed... I need to make a aptitude install kubuntu-desktop to see if I forgot something more :$ <fromoze> now, system settings is where kcontrol used to stay .. <pef> hello <JRe> hello pef <JRe> Riddell: you think that Tenor will be ready for KDE 4 ? <Riddell> JRe: that's the target yes <JRe> Riddell:sure =) <JRe> Riddell: but development has not yet started or i'm wrong ? <Riddell> JRe: development started long ago but it's still throwing ideas about, #klink is the channel <JRe> Riddell: thanks! <Tonio-> hi there <JRe> hi Tonio- <Tonio-> anyone aware of a little bug in Amarok sice 3.4.2 ? <Tonio-> I have a bug in the gui.... <Tonio-> hi JRe ;) <JRe> what is the bug ? <Tonio-> I post a snap... <Tonio-> http://www.planetemu.net/temp/capture17.png <Tonio-> here it is.... <JRe> hehe du cabrel =) =) <JRe> tough it seems to be a bad bug =( <Tonio-> yep <Tonio-> duno if that is due to amarok's code or the compilation... <Tonio-> need to see if the sources have been hacked... <Tonio-> and yes, Cabrel is good (if you understand french) ^^ <JRe> Tonio-: it only has started to happen after KDE 3.4.2 installation? <Tonio-> yep <Tonio-> it was working fine before this <JRe> mmm strange bug <Tonio-> I just wanted to know i other users have the problem before trying to investigate a bit more or reporting that to bugzilla... <Riddell> Tonio-: what's the problem? <JRe> Riddell: seems to be fixed <Tonio-> Riddell: well I had an error on the guy <Tonio-> but I relaunched the app two or three times and it dissapered <Tonio-> you can look at the snapshot, in the list, the 8 (I think) first lines are program options ;) <Riddell> ah I see. weird <Tonio-> yep, and that dissapired, just like that..... <Tonio-> sounds amazing.... maybe a bug in the sqlite database..... <Tonio-> that was detected and corrected after a few loadings....... <Tonio-> ah Riddell I have a little question concerning a package, because I don't want to create any problems on REVU... <Tonio-> Knemo is an excellent app, but already package, that will cause an issue already in breezy.. <Tonio-> icons conflict with knetworkconf..... <Riddell> hmm, I thought I'd fixed that <Tonio-> ah ? <Tonio-> okay <Riddell> well maybe I havn't if you still see the problem <Tonio-> so you can remove the corrected version on I posted on revu ;) <Tonio-> but I mean, the best way to correct the problem is ? <Riddell> I changed the icon in knetworkconf actually (since it's in KDE's SVN I could change it there too) <Tonio-> the rename the icons and change the makefile, or remove the icons ? and doing that directly in the sources or within a cdbs patch ? <Tonio-> ah good ;) <Tonio-> can you remove the package I posted tu REVU so ? <Riddell> Tonio-: are you getting an error in breezy? <Tonio-> or at list put it in archived ? it doesn't need to be reviewed <Tonio-> nope <Tonio-> I mean I didn't try <Tonio-> bu because knetworkconf sources includes those icons and same for knemo <Tonio-> I belived the problem will remain isn't it ? <Tonio-> or maybe in svn version of knetworkconf it is different... <Riddell> well it /should/ be fixed by knetworkconf but maybe I didn't <Riddell> I'll take a look at it <Tonio-> okay <Tonio-> well in any case if it isn't you know I have a corrected package ;) <Tonio-> vut patching the sources requires cdbs patch to be validated according to the REVU policies no ? <Riddell> :) <Riddell> hello muszilla <muszilla> Howdy <Tonio-> I did that manually in the sources and put the informations in the changelog.... Is it enought ? <Tonio-> hi muszilla <Riddell> Tonio-: I think revu's 3 approval rule is only for new packages, anything else you can upload there and someone can upload as they see fit <Tonio-> doesn't require 3 approval ? only one is okay ? <Tonio-> well let's see one month before breezy, I'll have a look to see if the problem is present, and then reporting to you.... <Riddell> Tonio-: well the 3 approval is for new packages as far as I know <Tonio-> okay <Tonio-> concerning kmplayer, I had it without koffice support, and emailed the upstream about what is it used for <Riddell> Tonio-: good plan <Tonio-> if it is important feature (but doesn't sounds), I'll put a 0ubuntu2 version with it <Riddell> muszilla: you must be the kweather man. welcome along <Tonio-> the problem is that a complete koffice dependancie is perhaps too much for a simple konqueror plusgin unless the integration th koffice is important feature.... <Riddell> it's possible the koffice stuff is a loadable plugin in which case it could be put in a separate package. but this is unlikely <Tonio-> well, the fact that the official doesn't have any reference to koffice so that might be only "in project" or very very optionnal feature..... <Tonio-> that's the reason I wouldn't personnaly have to install the full koffice for juste little video plugin.... <Tonio-> the official site excuse ma... <muszilla> kweather? No, that is not me... * Mez pokes riddell #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-04 <Riddell> hi muszilla <Riddell> hi Mez <Mez> Riddell, can we get a shinier icon set for KDE <Mez> crystal si great and all <Mez> but, a nice shineh custom kubuntu-made one would be uber :D <muszilla> welcome back <Riddell> Mez: expect oxygen for KDE 4 <Riddell> Mez: andyfitz is doing the icons for ubuntu and suggests we use his but I don't think it's a good idea <Mez> Riddell, imo the gnome ubuntu icons = fugly <Mez> (the new set) <Mez> Riddell, where cna i find this oxygen theme? <Riddell> Mez: oxygen doesn't exist yet <Mez> ah <Mez> :'( <Riddell> Mez: where can I find the gnome ubuntu icons? * Mez continues using torchlight for now <Mez> Riddell, in the gnome-humility-icon-theme package in breezy <Riddell> there's also a top secret project at novell to make new gnome icons inspired by crystal <Mez> the torchlight icons are sexy <Mez> if only it was a complete set :D <Riddell> where can I see them? <Mez> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26378 <Mez> click on the lil thumbnails at the side of the description <Mez> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/26378-2.png <Riddell> hmm, not serious enough. and the action icons are too much like crystal (arrows in a circle) <muszilla> good night... <Mez> I like it <pef> hello * Mez growls at there being no Kubuntu colony 2 CD #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-05 <Mez> Riddell, sorry bout that - I expected it to poke me with an error before it sent ... obviousl it ddidnt #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-06 <LeeJunFan> are there daily images available somewhere of breezy? <LeeJunFan> I seem to remember a mirror like cdimage.com or some such thing. But for the life of me it's been a while and I can't remember the hostname of the mirror site with all the CD images. <LeeJunFan> nevermind - I found the place on releases site. <lamont> checking for libxmms... /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38608: xmms-config: command not found <lamont> no <lamont> /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38610: xmms-config: command not found * lamont giggles <lamont> kdenetwork_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 <\sh> lol * \sh has to ping elmo today...so I can have a look at those stoopids <lamont> ?? anyone can look at the logs <\sh> today, ? <lamont> (well, actually, I'm pulling this from hppa logs generally, but I generally make sure that there's at least one more failing arch before I actually file a bug.) <lamont> yes. <lamont> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/byDate/ <lamont> or ~lamont/buildLogs/Test/k/kdenetwork and follow your nose <lamont> mind you, this version might build... :-) <lamont> for uploads since we snapshotted breezy-autotest, you have to look in the real logs (drop the Test/) <\sh> well...it's from the 27th <lamont> sounds about right <\sh> checking for libxmms... /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38608: xmms-config: command not found <\sh> /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38610: xmms-config: command not found <lamont> ding-ding-ding! <\sh> hmmm Trying patch debian/patches/11_dlopen-xmms.diff at level 0...success. <\sh> what is using xmms in kdenetwork? <lamont> smacks of a missing build-dep * lamont has no clue - never used kde * lamont just builds bits. <\sh> lamont: my key needs to be merged into main ;) <lamont> well, and uses gnome, etc... <\sh> so i could fix it <lamont> ah, CC/TB approved, just process-blocked? <\sh> TB approved already... <lamont> meanwhile, if you have a patch, I can certainly do the upload <\sh> elmo delay ;) <lamont> but for now, I'm going to sleep <\sh> lamont: I will check it when I'm reaching office...so I will provide a patch if it's a onliner <\sh> oneliner even <\sh> actually I need to inject xterm-302 as well..cause it looks like daniels has not the time to do the upload <lamont> you know... when your compile takes so long that you add a %completion to the make process, that's a bad sign... <\sh> we need some sponsored hardware from intel, ibm or amd to have a good build testing env...(actually the motus can be a good address for this) <\sh> some fast SMP machines <crimsun> I can mention that to my manager <\sh> crimsun: for transitions and other mass test compiling stuff it would be nice to have this possibility to use it...some software is taking to long on single cpu machines <crimsun> I don't think amd64 is a possibility, but perhaps x86 and ppc <\sh> sounds good...ppc is very interessting... <crimsun> I'll ask in the morning, but I don't know precisely who/which group handles this at IBM, so I'll probably need more info, etc. <\sh> hmmm...ubuntu for s390 ,-) <fromoze> uniq_: once I talk with you about conflits between knemo an knetworkconf on my amd64 computer. Now, I'm with a laptop i386 and I get the same problem about overwriting icons with this three packages: kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb knetworkconf_0.6.1-3ubuntu4_i386.deb knemo_0.3.1-2ubuntu1.deb <fromoze> I'll take a look in bugzilla about it <\sh> Riddell: ping <Riddell> \sh: hi <\sh> Riddell: xmms + kdenetwork (kopete) is ftbfsing <\sh> Riddell: or did u remove the xmms-dev build-dev purposly? :) <Riddell> I seem to mind it was removed so as not to bring in gtk <Riddell> \sh: looks like successful building on 4 platforms to me <\sh> riddell: yes without xmms-dev <\sh> no with xmms-dev <\sh> check the logs <\sh> checking for libxmms... /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38608: xmms-config: command not found <\sh> /build/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/./configure: line 38610: xmms-config: command not found <\sh> no <\sh> I just added a xmms-dev to build dep.. <\sh> and got <\sh> ./kopete/plugins/nowlistening/.libs/kopete_nowlistening_la_all_cpp.o: In function `NLXmms33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abupdate()': <\sh> /tmp/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/kopete/plugins/nowlistening/nlxmms.cpp:49: undefined reference to `xmms_remote_get_version' <\sh> /tmp/buildd/kdenetwork-3.4.2/kopete/plugins/nowlistening/nlxmms.cpp:54: undefined reference to `xmms_remote_is_playing' <\sh> and more <\sh> lamont reported it this morning <Riddell> so just don't add it to the build-deps? <\sh> Riddell: no...it's a feature of kopete ;) <\sh> a default feature ;) <Riddell> does anyone still use xmms? <\sh> REQUIREMENTS <\sh> Requires XMMS remote control header xmmsctrl.h <\sh> (can be found in: <\sh> * SuSE's base xmms rpm <\sh> * Mandrake's libxmms1-devel rpm <\sh> * RedHat, TurboLinux, Conectiva: xmms-devel ) <\sh> thats the readme <\sh> Riddell: yes..cause amarok has some pitfalls with some soundfiles <\sh> hmmm...it's in xmms-dev <\sh> i think I see thhe bug <\sh> hmm..no...it should load the include and get it..the functions are defined... <\sh> so something is wrong with the lib itself <\sh> also not..the functions symbols are inside the lib <aureal_> wenas <Mez> Riddell: ping <Riddell> pong <Riddell> Mez: pong <Mez> Riddell: er, unping for now - speak to mdz <Mez> bout backporting 3.4.2 <Riddell> Mez: are you volunteering to change the build-deps so they are hoary and breezy friendly :) <Mez> speak to mdz <Mez> :P <Riddell> well I've read his e-mail and it does make sense <Riddell> it's just a long and boring job of changing the build-deps <Riddell> hello _eric <_eric> hello Riddell <Mez> Riddell, I would, I just dont know how :D <Riddell> Mez: get a hoary chroot, get a breezy chroot, apt-get source kdelibs in both, work out the differneces in build-deps and work out build-deps that will work in both <Riddell> oh dear <aureal_> byex all <Mez> Riddell: as I was trying to say: some of them are going to need liek -debian/rules modifying so that the patches arent applied depending on the auto* version thats installed <Riddell> Mez: like which? <Mez> lie, the hal patch on KDEBase <Mez> like * <Mez> will need to check in the rules about the auto* version :d <Mez> (or somehing) <Mez> if mdz is around we can talk to him bout it <Riddell> maybe the hal patch will work, or it should be possible to make it work <Mez> *shrugs* <Mez> well thats something I cant do <Riddell> you could try it and see :) <Mez> I mean I dont mind going through and sorting out the B-Ds <Mez> but I dont have upload to main anywyas * Mez goes and tries to make his breezy work a lil <Mez> Riddell, #ubuntu-devel <Mez> nvm <Mez> lol <Mez> but yeah, I dont mind working with you.... but you could just provide your hoary source packages <Mez> or even better, debdiffs <Riddell> hoary source packages are in the same place as binary packages are <Mez> wget -r http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde342/pool/ -A .gz,.deb,.dsc,.changes <Riddell> Mez: or you could do apt-get source <Riddell> Mez: or I could give you an account and you could scp them off <Mez> Riddell: didnt think that <Mez> and the scp account would be easier <Mez> where's dev.kubuntu.org.uk hosteD? <Riddell> http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-03-14-ednet/ <Mez> ah, on 19inch? <Riddell> no <Riddell> I don't trust ntl :) <Mez> oh... you paid for a server ina nice shineh data centre? <Riddell> well, I wouldn't go as far to say I paid for it :) <Mez> Mark paid for it? <Riddell> no, other customers of mine <Mez> ? <Riddell> just random people <Mez> why are they paying for it <Riddell> http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-03-14-lumison-datacentre-kanyo-rack-back.jpg <Riddell> because they need it for some money spinning project of theirs <Mez> they need you to have a server? <Riddell> I administrate it <Riddell> and make sure the space CPU cycles are put to good use <Mez> ah, so you piggy-back on it :D <Riddell> wouldn't want to let CPU cycles go to waste <Mez> lol, well I'm sure I can help with taht <Riddell> anyway if you want an account send me your name, address, phone number and a declaration signed in blood not to abuse it or use up bandwidth <Mez> Riddell, I need all my blood at the moment, but I can do the rest (and sign with PGP key) <Mez> lol #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-07 <Riddell> Mez: and that is why you need screen <Mez> ...? <Mez> I dont use irssi though <Mez> :P <Mez> I could drop an eggdrop on dev.kubuntu.org though <Riddell> well you should :) <Riddell> no, you couldn't <Mez> irssi = Text based <Mez> lol <Mez> (I wouldnt) <Riddell> irc == text based <Mez> I prefer somethign that isnt running in a console and makes me remember weird key combos and doesnt let me click htings <Mez> if only I could sort out this screen resolution then I'd use breezy for a while * Mez growls at the icons * Mez growls at the resolution <Mez> why wont dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg let me set my monitor sync rates? <Mez> brb * Mez installs clearlooks <Mez> w00h00 <Mez> apart from the fact everything looks slightly bigger, but at the same resolution * Mez dances for his working breezy <Mez> well at least we know kubuntu breezy is working now <Riddell> awooga <crimsun> it'd be interesting to have amarok 1.3 beta 2 in breezy. <crimsun> too bad it's beta :/ <crimsun> I should just work on it tonight; I already built packages for hoary. <Mez> hmm <Mez> er <Mez> kubuntu uses arts still yes? * Mez slaps riddell <Mez> you compiled amarok for use without arts <crimsun> just install amarok-arts then <Mez> didnt know that existed :D <crimsun> (if it doesn't exist in breezy, never mind me. I'm douglassanchez@example.org.) <Mez> it exists in breezy <Riddell> Mez: use gstreamer <Mez> Riddell: how? <Riddell> does it complain? <Mez> amarok breaks <Mez> with the arts engine <Mez> and er.. <Mez> buzzes... <Mez> with gstreamer <Mez> brb <Mez> ah <Mez> amarok works with arts now <Mez> just wont play MP3s <Riddell> install akode-mpeg <Mez> Riddell, nop - still not playing <Mez> unles I need to restart X <Riddell> restart artsd <Mez> meh :D <Mez> tis working <Mez> X restart was faster <Mez> o_O <Mez> my sound dont work on hoary now <Mez> Riddell, can you check over http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=269 <Riddell> cool. but tomorrow.. need sleep.. <Mez> Riddell: what arch is dev.kubuntu.org? <Mez> i386? <crimsun> he's asleep. <Mez> (aka what type of .debsah kk <Mez> ah kk <Mez> Riddell, will start on backports stuff tomorrow <froud> Is Kubuntu being localized in Rosetta ? <Riddell> froud: not yet, hopefully it'll happen before breezy <froud> Some apps are there, kompose <froud> and kaffiene <froud> Riddell: is it safe to download and insall kubuntu from the night builds, is x working now? <Riddell> froud: looks like there are no nightly builds except for amd64 <froud> :-( <JRe> Riddell: nice interview ;) ;) <Mez> interview? <JRe> Mez: on distrowatch <\sh> dot.kde.org <\sh> read <\sh> there is an announcement <\sh> it's quite nice <JRe> \sh: yes :) <\sh> JRe: u read also about "Freedom Toasters" <\sh> ? <JRe> \sh: no <JRe> \sh: it's also on distrwatch ? <\sh> yepp <\sh> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050801#3 <JRe> \sh: thanks =) <je4d> Riddell: seconded.. tiz a good interview (: <fromoze> yes, seconded, Kubuntu rulez ;) <Mez> Riddell: bug in k3b <Mez> it says "time elapsed" bla bla bla "h" <Riddell> froud: it's just the live CD that is amd64 only, install has everything but I just tried it and it doesn't work <froud> Riddell: argh!!! any expectations when will be working <froud> time is short <Riddell> I have the same frustrations <Riddell> Mez: what should it say? <froud> string freeze is nearly upon us, I can't see much of anything being done <Riddell> froud: I'm going to try the Mez route now and download colony 2 and update <froud> 10X thnx <Riddell> Mez: k3b-i18n looks good, am going to upload * netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> zelazny.freenode.net <Riddell> Mez: could you notify the debian maintainer of that package, noting the fix to remove .gmo files <Riddell> Mez: oh, I modified your .orig to not include .gmo files <Riddell> froud: installing colony 2 then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works <froud> Riddell: k, then dpkg-reconfigure kdm <froud> then uninstall ubuntu-desktop <Riddell> no need to reconfigure kdm <froud> that should leave a KDE only right <Riddell> apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0 should blast gnome gone <froud> cool, don't want gnome in screen shots <froud> :-) <Riddell> froud: there's one overlapping file in xkeyboard-config that you'll have to dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archive/foo.deb <Riddell> then redo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <froud> Riddell: downloading <Riddell> froud: good luck <Riddell> http://onefinger.sourceforge.net/ looks interesting (if not very useable) <\sh> funny...the first cd is burned with fullspeed and the second one only with 4....(config is on "autodetect" speed) <\sh> is it a k3b effect or cdrecord? <Mez> \sh: cdrecord I believe <\sh> we have to track it down...it's annoying <Riddell> Mez: http://onefinger.sourceforge.net/ katapult as written by an academic :) <Mez> yeah, I had seen onefinger disccussed in linux format <Riddell> what did they say? <Mez> that it was awkward, but worth a look <Riddell> yep <Mez> got a package yet? <Riddell> no, but it doesn't need compiled beig python <Riddell> just install and go <Mez> fair enough <allee> Mez: ponder: was it you, who had problem with digikam 0.7.2 from my repo and tags? (Can't reproduce a problem) <allee> [Tue Jul 26 2005] [21:26:06] <Mez> allee, try anything under "my tags" <allee> [Tue Jul 26 2005] [21:26:09] <Mez> and it errors <allee> can't reproduce #kubuntu-devel 2005-08-08 <allee> what's the trick to get hoary pbuilder in hoary running? <allee> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes <allee> pbuilder complains about unauthenticated pkgs! :( <allee> heh, sarge build runs smoothly in hoary :) <allee> found it: pbuild for hoary running (googled with wrong words before) <pef> hello <JRe> hi pef <author> hello <Riddell> hello author <OculusAquilae> hi author <author> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27336 <- Any feedback? <author> /suggestions? <OculusAquilae> author: i think inaktive windows don't behave as under suse <author> they has an icon in inactive mode? <OculusAquilae> i'm booting suse at the moment to look at the styles there :-) <author> thanks ;) <OculusAquilae> author, no the inaktive are ok, but suse has made other roundings <author> screenshot? <OculusAquilae> ah, they are ok, i was diverted because of the colour,but after changing it its ok <author> puh ;) not more work, hehe <author> because at moment i translate http://kudos.berlios.de/ for german website <OculusAquilae> nice work :-) <author> thanks <OculusAquilae> author: would be nice (i mean this translation) <author> yes its important for me to give kubuntu that thinks what is gave to me :D <OculusAquilae> yes kubuntu is a great distro, but it is even better when i look at breezy <author> mhm we will see.. it can be better?? ;) <OculusAquilae> :-) <OculusAquilae> have you read the interview with Riddell? <author> no <author> but interrestet.. (link?) <author> interested, i mean <author> (its right so=) interested? <author> where is the link to the interview? <OculusAquilae> i think there is a link from dot.kde.org, but i can't acces to this page atm <author> my friend can find it.. (google :P ) <OculusAquilae> :-) <author> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=11423 <OculusAquilae> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050801#interview - for all who can't use google <author> :D <author> i will translate it for german community <author> ;) <OculusAquilae> :-) <author> wow thanks for the link of the interwiev <OculusAquilae> np <author> did you now if the dev team need help to translate the new "KControl for Kubuntu" ? <OculusAquilae> i don't know if its time for a translation of it, because there could be changes on the User interface <OculusAquilae> but we haven't got a translation for katapult, yet, too <author> mhm i will download a Daily Build and install.. <OculusAquilae> of breezy or of katapult? <author> breezy <author> are in this cd the new files? <OculusAquilae> maybe that breezy don't work because of x <author> not x? <OculusAquilae> the x maintainers have some problems, but i don't know why <author> mhm <author> are the new thinks in this release? <OculusAquilae> i think so <author> i can translate the sources and riddel can use my translation for a new build <OculusAquilae> have you experience in translating software, author? <author> mhm realy? no, but i think its no problem for me <author> abytime its allredy the first ;) <OculusAquilae> and i think there are string changes allowed in breezy, that you shouldn't begin to translate, but i'm sure that they can need your help, when breezy is string freezed <author> mhm for best i wish variables :D <OculusAquilae> you can find an introduction in translation on the i18n page of kde http://i18n.kde.org/translation-howto/ <author> thx i know i has read this <dombo> Hi, I've installed Kubuntu 5.04 for a friend but can't seem to get the printer work properly <dombo> It's extremely slow <dombo> The print will come out alright finally but one line takes about 90 seconds. <dombo> I've tried several filters to no avail. <dombo> I've also searched the net and found a bug on Debian's list which described the exact same problem. <dombo> But no real solutions <dombo> Anybody here with positive or negative experience with a parallel printer ? <dombo> This is a DeskJet 500 (old but works well under Windows (ofcourse :( ) <dombo> Also updated Kubuntu to the latest pakkackes <dombo> (should read 'packages') <dombo> Also tried to fiddle with the Bios settings of the printerport. No go. <MarcelKaeming> whats slowly? you printer or kubuntu? <dombo> a 'cat /etc/hosts > /dev/lp0 comes out ok. although staircased. <MarcelKaeming> and for support goto #kubuntu <MarcelKaeming> ;) <MarcelKaeming> or question in the ubuntulinux.org forum <dombo> The prining is slow. Like I said, about one line per minute. <dombo> Seems to me this is a bug in Kubuntu. Shouldn't that go here ? <dombo> Also tried
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