#ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-01 <MJBrune> hey all * seattlegaucho just got back from the Space Needle <MJBrune> seattlegaucho: welcome back <MJBrune> seattlegaucho: any idea where I can pick up a donated laptop? <seattlegaucho> there is a non-profit that collects donated equipment ... but I can't remember their name <seattlegaucho> it should be easy to find if you google around seattle <MJBrune> jmmhmmmm[A <MJBrune> exit #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-02 <valorie> happy new year everybody * valorie just got home from the cabin <valorie> it was COLD but beautiful up there #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-07 <seattlegaucho> valorie: <seattlegaucho> wondering where to get help w/ errors in amarok compilation <valorie> in #amarok <valorie> what's the prob? <seattlegaucho> sorry to ping you here, but my Q got lost in #amarok <valorie> I read the backlog, but maybe I missed it.... <valorie> ok <valorie> np <seattlegaucho> This type of error: <seattlegaucho> In file included from /home/gnarvaja/src/amarok/src/context/applets/info/InfoApplet.cpp:18: <seattlegaucho> /home/gnarvaja/src/amarok/src/context/applets/info/InfoApplet.h:34:22: error: qwebview.h: No such file or directory <seattlegaucho> I want to know if it is due to a mismatch in version numbers in one of the libraries or something different <valorie> well, the first thing I do when I get errors is build clean <valorie> every once in awhile the updates mess something up <seattlegaucho> this was right after downloading source code in a brand new (aka virgin) subdir <valorie> are you following Myriam's blog directions, or what? <seattlegaucho> yes and no (tried 2 diff builds) <valorie> hmm <seattlegaucho> same results in diff files <valorie> I just built <valorie> in kde 4.6 <valorie> so there were a few things I had to build clean <valorie> including amarok <seattlegaucho> Myriam's instructions: I have a mismatch in one of the dev libraries and can not upgrade w/o disrupting my work desktop <valorie> oh, that sucks <valorie> I would write to -devel with that <valorie> because my knowledge is only the most basic <seattlegaucho> so I went w/ the Ubuntu lp: which mirrors git ... but I can do it for my exact version(s) I have on my desktop <seattlegaucho> ... and failed further along <seattlegaucho> I just want to understand some basic DB designs :( <seattlegaucho> 'k ... that's good advice ... mailing list <seattlegaucho> my message in #amarok was @ 15:15 PST in case you're curious ... it's self - explanatory why it might have been lost in the noise ;) <valorie> yes, I need to smack markey around <valorie> there is the -devel chan for his craziness <valorie> shouldn't be int he public chan <seattlegaucho> :) <seattlegaucho> we should have at least one hack-a-thon a Q to exchange our latests achievements/results/frustrations/expectations <seattlegaucho> maybe set up an agenda / interest / topic on the wiki before each session <seattlegaucho> watcha thunk? <valorie> well, they are scheduling another multimedia sprint in Randa, Switzerland in July <valorie> might be a good idea to apply to go <valorie> they spend most of a week altogether in one large house, hacking and hiking the Alps <valorie> sounds quite amazing <valorie> but if you have a proposal about one in IRC, say so in -devel <valorie> you are in there, correct? <seattlegaucho> I was thinking something more humble for #ubuntu-us-wa :) <seattlegaucho> with a broader interest ... ie: why not 10.10? for those (like me) who are sticking to LTS for now <seattlegaucho> ... or general issues as in "setting up a VM to <your-choice-of-tasks>" <seattlegaucho> ... or ... <seattlegaucho> etc <seattlegaucho> if there are no items in the wiki, we call it off <seattlegaucho> ... anyway ... just an idea <seattlegaucho> maybe someone can comment overnight <seattlegaucho> I'm about to sign off and go home <valorie> oh, OK <valorie> i don't know how much I could add to that stuff <valorie> I'm only an expert in a few narrow areas <seattlegaucho> ... so am I ... but I'm sure we can tap in other areas of expertise from the others <valorie> oooo, I just re-read <valorie> sticking to LTS? <valorie> hmmm * valorie is 10.10, with KDE 4.6 <valorie> rc1 <valorie> except for kpk, everything is cool <valorie> so I'm trying out muon instead <DK12> hello everyone....any seattles? <valorie> hi DK12 * valorie lives south of Seattle <valorie> outside of Black Diamond <valorie> you? <DK12> just north of seattle, edmonds area <valorie> nice! <valorie> pretty up there <DK12> its hard to stray too far :) <valorie> well, the channel is for the state, and a few who just are interested in the project hang out here too <valorie> been a bit of a slow start for the project <DK12> i can imagine, whos mod here? <valorie> Salt, who mods both here and in #gslug <DK12> i don't know much about linux but i'm learning slowly...i've barely scratched the surface of using the command line <valorie> same here <valorie> I'm a writer, and a user <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Linux 2.6.35-24-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.5.90 (4.6 RC1), CPU: AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 at 550 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 104/363GB, RAM: 3660/3708MB, 200 proc's, 5.10h up #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-08 <theonlyDK> rawr <valorie> rawr to you to! <valorie> too <theonlyDK> is there any way to revert to 10.10 from 11.4 <theonlyDK> it seems some of the packages aren't quite stable yet <valorie> sure, reinstall <valorie> or go to #ubuntu+1 for experts * valorie is still in 10.10 kubuntu, but I do have KDE 4.6rc1 <valorie> so I'm sorta half-way there <valorie> dunno how they do that in gnomieland <theonlyDK> whats the difference between xubuntu/kubuntu and regular ubuntu anywayz <valorie> desktop <valorie> Kubuntu uses KDE, which is my preference <valorie> Ubuntu uses Gnome, which I don't like <valorie> Xubuntu uses XFCE, I believe <valorie> etc. <theonlyDK> ahh <valorie> just figuring all this stuff out, myself <valorie> I just heard of a new thing that a friend of mine installed: PeppermintOS <valorie> it's actually based on 10.04 LTS, and is pretty slick <valorie> re-themed, and linked up to some company's cloud services <valorie> although stuff is available for free, if you keep digging <valorie> sec <theonlyDK> hmmm i've heard of peppermint...just bits and pieces though. <valorie> looks slick <valorie> would irritate me to be behind their little walls <valorie> but this is a guy migrating from windows <althara> Hi valorie *waves* <valorie> maybe he likes the safety <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}} and happy new year, althara! <althara> happy new year to you too <valorie> thanks! <valorie> so far, so good <valorie> google code-in is almost over <valorie> my handbook is almost out the door <valorie> etc. <valorie> feels GOOD <althara> You wouldn't happen to be going to gslug tomorrow, would you? *nudge nudge* <althara> awesome <althara> :) <valorie> sorry, now <valorie> no <valorie> I mean <valorie> one of these months, I promise I will <valorie> why in hell do they have them on Saturday morning? <althara> noon to 4 <valorie> 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abgroan33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab <theonlyDK> most people work mon-fri... <althara> I have no idea really <althara> I like that it's not a week night <valorie> that means leaving here by 10:30 <althara> those are super hard on me with a little <althara> one <valorie> and I don't want to get up until then <valorie> lol <althara> heh <althara> blame salt :P <theonlyDK> whats gslug? <valorie> oh, I do <valorie> lol <althara> greater seattle linux user group <valorie> greater seattle linux <theonlyDK> oh <valorie> the slug part is just coincidental <althara> meetings are the second Saturday of the month <valorie> :-) <althara> usually at google fremont <althara> valorie: don't feel bad. I've only gone maybe twice in the last year <valorie> if I lived closer, I would def. attend more <theonlyDK> wow thats pretty close to where im at <althara> http://www.gslug.org/wiki/index.php/Meeting_2011-01-08 <althara> MJEvans is bringing cake! <valorie> :( <theonlyDK> did someone say steak?> <valorie> lol <althara> heh <valorie> I was trying to get a geeknik going last summer <valorie> but it never happened <althara> the brewery down the street probably has steak <valorie> THIS SUMMER <althara> I think last year was a little busy <valorie> for sure <althara> this year we'll start planning in may :) <valorie> possibly earlier <valorie> esp. if I decide to try to attend UDS again <althara> if we want to make it big like the linux picnic in the bay area we should definitely start planning early <valorie> which is April <valorie> right, we don't have MarkDude <althara> right around linuxfest time <valorie> who is just a people magnet <althara> :) <theonlyDK> golden gardens? <theonlyDK> for a picnic... <althara> that's a good idea <theonlyDK> :) <theonlyDK> or magnuson <valorie> we were scoping out the parks last year <theonlyDK> i know alot in this town... <valorie> some allow beer, some are No Alcohol <theonlyDK> brown paper bags say otherwise :) <valorie> beer isn't that important to me, but it does add to the fun for most <althara> I'm willing to put in some money for a rental fee if there might be one <althara> we also have the $25 from the lucid party <valorie> right, but I was going to get my son to brew us a keg <althara> that would be sweet! <theonlyDK> awesome! <valorie> although he tells me that buying one costs about the same <althara> if we bring beer they will come :p <valorie> but I thought something just for us would be cool <theonlyDK> i have an empty mac and jacks keg i could donate <valorie> nice! <theonlyDK> it can only be filled by them too <valorie> mac and jacks is great! <theonlyDK> yeah i went on the tour a week ago <valorie> oh, I've never been <valorie> where are they? <althara> valorie: just for us would be awesome too ,but how would we drink a whole keg? <valorie> I was thinking we could get lotsa geeks to come <valorie> if we get a head start <valorie> even windows geeks <althara> indeed <valorie> since my son the brewer is a win geek <valorie> even the linux son uses win for WoW <althara> we're all inclusive :) <valorie> exactly <valorie> hard to think of a picnic now, while it's so cold <valorie> but summer will come, I just know it <valorie> :-) <althara> I sure hope so <theonlyDK> i had dual boot for gaming... <theonlyDK> that project grendaded though <althara> I played WoW on my mac <_< <valorie> he bought an alienware lappy just for it <theonlyDK> i play league of legends when i game, its super addicting <valorie> crazy man <althara> I've heard of it. Haven't installed it yet <theonlyDK> its blown up dota for wc3 <theonlyDK> same devs <althara> Got a few friends that play pretty regularly, but I really don't need another time sink <theonlyDK> from* <valorie> my gaming goes as far as klondike <althara> :) <theonlyDK> my roomate's played 1500 games, they range from 25-75 minutes long too <theonlyDK> i got like 500 under my belt... <theonlyDK> big time sink during the winter <althara> it's hard to spend that much time on games with a small child <theonlyDK> val the mac and jacks brewery is in redmond <theonlyDK> the big R! <valorie> cool, that's not too far away <valorie> will have to drag the hubby up there <valorie> I've gone through Redhook <valorie> that's right behind where my dau works, at The Herbfarm restaurant <althara> there is a turducken of cake <althara> this scares me, greatly <valorie> a turducken of cake? <valorie> this sounds..... <theonlyDK> NOMNOMNOM <althara> two different pies inside a cake <althara> takes three days to make <theonlyDK> oh my <valorie> OMG <theonlyDK> cake stuffed with pies <valorie> lol <theonlyDK> this is outragoues <althara> heh <valorie> I think i'd rather have them separately <theonlyDK> i've had dual layer pumpkin apple pie <althara> it's on the food network right _now_ <MarkDude> valorie, you do have me to help plan some of the stuff out, and you are correct about staarting now <theonlyDK> but never a pie inside a cake, let alone 2... <valorie> hey MarkDude <valorie> let me just say, we are not having turducken <MarkDude> Yes, but you have unique powers also <valorie> lol <althara> no way. I refuse to have turducken <althara> now a pumple cake, maybe <MarkDude> I am hoping to make it to LFNW, but we will see how the work thing is <valorie> pumpkin cake is good <valorie> oooo, that woudl be FUN <valorie> so pretty up there <valorie> and the geeks are great <theonlyDK> why such a resistance to turducken <valorie> lolol <MarkDude> Did you see the torched banana dessert we made at Geeknic 2? <valorie> i did! <theonlyDK> negatory * MarkDude will find link <valorie> I'm sure MarkDude has pix <valorie> although, I'm thinking of a roast turkey with the circle of friends in the skin...... <valorie> lol <althara> there is like 3 inches of frosting between the two layers of cake <valorie> ugh <valorie> the nice thing about pumpkin bread, or cake -- no frosting <valorie> at most, glaze <althara> I like glaze more than frosting <althara> buttercream can get overwhelming very fast <valorie> me too <valorie> exactly <althara> I'll make my gramdma's poppyseed lemon cake for the picnic :) <valorie> sounds good <althara> best cake I ever had in my life <valorie> make it in a bundt cake pan <althara> but that might be because I loved my grandma :) <valorie> and you can easily make a circle of friends on the plate <althara> it's a loaf type cake <valorie> sure, but I bet you can make it bundt <althara> maybe if I double it <althara> I can do some experiments <theonlyDK> i'm not very particular about cake, i'll eat it all <theonlyDK> :) <valorie> I often change stuff like that around <althara> I've been really into bundt cakes lately <althara> pudding cakes to be exact <valorie> my best pumpkin cake is actually a pumpkin bread reciped <althara> so moist and yummy-licious <valorie> and vice versa <theonlyDK> i haven't gotten to dessert and baked goods in my cooking experiments yet... <valorie> the nice thing about bundt is they look fancy right out of the pan <valorie> without icing <valorie> and super fancy with just some powdered sugar or glaze <valorie> or cocoa <valorie> depending on the type <althara> yep <althara> I even found a good pan at a thrift store <althara> I was so happy about that <valorie> I have no kids, and never bake anymore <valorie> someone like me whose kids have all moved away <valorie> lol <althara> I couldn't justify spending $40 for a bundt pan <valorie> but my cake pan is still up in the cupboard <valorie> I hear ya <althara> :) <valorie> I think mine was a wedding gift <valorie> or something <althara> I think the one I found was fromt he 70's <althara> it's olive green, cast aluminum <althara> it'll last forever <valorie> oh lord <valorie> olive green <valorie> shudder <althara> at least it's not a fridge :P <valorie> everything used to be that shade <althara> and avacado shag rug <valorie> including my first fridge <valorie> gah, that was awful <althara> I've seen the pictures of the house my parents lived in pre kids :P <valorie> and mustard yellow <althara> it was very 70s <valorie> who was designing stuff back then? <valorie> ugh <althara> no idea <valorie> we moved to this house in 75 <valorie> so glad to get ride of that dowdy old stuff finally <valorie> I see old photos and cringe <valorie> lol <althara> heh <theonlyDK> is peppermint made by google? becuase i read about a cloud os that google was building <valorie> hmmm <valorie> I didn't see the google name anywhere around it <valorie> but I have to say, my search wasn't exhaustive <valorie> it's build on 10.04 <valorie> and has a cloud component if people put up the money for that <valorie> so it could be an experiment by them <valorie> they have their own new cloud OS out on some laptops they gave away to some folks <theonlyDK> yeah im gonna build a live usb for it <theonlyDK> and give it a go <theonlyDK> just cuz <valorie> report back <valorie> it looks interesting <theonlyDK> roger that <theonlyDK> this is going to be very interesting, i've never even used the cloud before <valorie> how much do they charge? * valorie just bought cloud backup today, from spideroak <valorie> it's got 4 gigs so far, out of 100 <valorie> might be uploading for awhile..... <theonlyDK> the os was free <theonlyDK> no idea what the subscription could be <valorie> k <valorie> it's sort of a nice business plan <valorie> basically charging for extra services and help <valorie> which when you think about it is what Canonical does for business <theonlyDK> or what google does with android... <theonlyDK> okay im taking the plunge... <althara> MarkDude: that animated gif you posted to facebook is creeping me out <valorie> now I have to go look! * MarkDude started making some gifs for a friends band - they are heavy metal- this one is not creepy http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Dude%20running%20with%20scissors.gif <MarkDude> it is a dropbox pic valorie <valorie> k <valorie> that's weeeeiiiirrrrddddd <valorie> I should get a dropbox <valorie> but maybe my spideroak will work <valorie> gotta get the backup done first, before I mess with it <MarkDude> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ <MarkDude> all of them are there, yes its a Fedora blog, dont be mad at me <valorie> approaching 5 gigs backed up! <valorie> out of 80 or so <valorie> lol <valorie> why would i be mad at you <valorie> silly man <valorie> lol <valorie> omg googly eyes <valorie> now THAT is creepy <althara> eaxctly <althara> exactly <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> lookie lou i made it..running peppermint... <althara> nice <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> time to explore... <valorie> does it look good? <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> im running live right now <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> runs okay for the most part <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> internet video is doodoo <valorie> might not have flash installed <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> its does <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> youtube works good but every other video site is kinda shitty <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> hmmm software manager <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> interesting <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> overall the UI design is about 7 of 10 <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> for not installed <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> boots up like ubuntu <MarkDude> Which side are the buttons on? <valorie> well, it IS ubuntu <valorie> 10.04 LTS <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> menu is windows esc bottom left <MarkDude> The correct side then :P <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> windows-esque* <valorie> lol <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> actually <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> the entire bottom taskbar is XP <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> which makes me hate this <valorie> correct=KDE where you can have them whereever you want <valorie> lol <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> 4 workspaces....imagine that! <MarkDude> Hmm, sounds like a possible *gateway drug* I can use to get folks into Linux <valorie> I heard about it earlier today, when a friend of mine said he'd installed it instead of windows <valorie> PeppermintOS <valorie> had never heard of it before <valorie> looks pretty cute <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> its super similiar to windows <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> scary infact <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> has a "run" command <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> in the menu <MarkDude> Run? <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> yeah <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> like windows 98 <MarkDude> is there a pepppermintconfig,sys? * DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT shudders <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> flash crashed...imagine that <MarkDude> that is a cross platform feature of flash <MarkDude> does that well on all platforms <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> yeah i've learned that... <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> slowly :) <MarkDude> They have been perfecting it <valorie> I'm pretty sure that it is meant to be familiar to win users <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> yeah <MarkDude> Well the crashing makes them feel at home :D <valorie> rofl <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> flash crashes all the time in 11.04 for me... <valorie> one thing that draws us all together: hatred of flash! <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> yeah <MarkDude> And as you get more used to Linux, you can move the slider towards the less crashes side * valorie is listening to Bitter Sweet Symphony by The Verve on Urban Hymns [Amarok] <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> hmmm <valorie> just seemed apropos * MarkDude is going to be performing my Sister's Marriage next month <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> i've tried using different synaptics for the flash plugins but all have equally shitty performance <MarkDude> Ordained on ulc.org - ty <MarkDude> DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT, the proper phrase is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> hmmm <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> i can view and use all the files on my hd... <DKPAPPAPEPPAMINT> mkv still glitchy playback... <valorie> nice, MarkDude <valorie> I found out my middle son has officiated at a couple of weddings <valorie> I didn't have a clue <valorie> lol <valorie> I have ulc ordination too, but don't know where my piece of paper is <althara> ditto <valorie> nor do I really want to conduct a wedding <valorie> that's a lot of pressue <valorie> pressure <MarkDude> The advice said just sign up again - I had done it in 2006 or sumthin * MarkDude plans on marrying some folks again * MarkDude reserves the right not to do it - I may pass on it it if I dont think I am the right person- this will be my 1st time <MarkDude> I am cool with it- I might perform some civil unions also <MarkDude> and eventually marriages for gay folks also <MarkDude> the timing being the laws- not mine :) <valorie> of course * MarkDude was joking that he can be the Sinister Minister <MarkDude> The titles they have on Ulc are great- rock n roll reverend, dervish, even Pope <MarkDude> I will spend a $ to see if we can get one to name Alan- Pope Pope <valorie> I wonder if any of the sisters of perpetual indulgence do weddings? <valorie> now that would be a touch of class! <MarkDude> Most likely <valorie> I went to gay bingo awhile ago, which they were running <valorie> it was fun! * MarkDude met one of them last summer cant find the card <valorie> and a huge fundraiser <valorie> they are easy to find on the web <valorie> Abbey of St. Joan down there * MarkDude can just imagine a few of the winners beyond excited <MarkDude> people totally freak over winning, my ex-fiance used to bingo all the time <valorie> first time I've ever done it <valorie> I did BAD <valorie> lol * MarkDude could not even do 1 bingo card <althara> bingo is fun <MarkDude> Linda had like 12 and was still tracking mine <althara> especially if you can drink while you play <althara> and if you do it like the odeon did, with massive amounts of ridiculous <MarkDude> Fridays were cool, i would come home hand my wallet over, dinner was made. I would watch the kids until bingo was over <MarkDude> althara, they have a smoking and non section there? <althara> no, it was a bar in SF. Closed down three years ago, I think. <althara> Actually longer <althara> And SF hates smoking :) <MarkDude> Smoking and people that drive hummers <althara> indeed <DK12> hating smoking is the cool thing to do now a days <DK12> i get mean mugged a lot downtown when im walkin and smokin <DK12> :( <althara> The obnoxious behavior goes both ways, I've found. Was never really into it when I've been on either side of that equation. <althara> it being making other people uncomfortable in their choice to or not to smoke <althara> yay, I get to go to sleep now <althara> night all <valorie> I hate smoke, and the smell of it, but like smokers <valorie> always like to hang with the smokers * MarkDude still needs to quit <DK12> off to gslug woot.... <althara> I'm not gonna make it. Work :( #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-10 <seattlegaucho> althara: your recommendation to use spideroak a while back for online backup was on the spot ... thx! <althara> While I love getting apreciation for things that I do, it was not me that recommended that to you. Perhaps if was valorie. :) <seattlegaucho> nope ... she wasn't ... hmm * seattlegaucho goes into his logs <seattlegaucho> althara: you were right ... it was valorie who brought it up * seattlegaucho owes yet another thank you not to valorie <seattlegaucho> s/not/note/ <althara> valorie is awesome :) <MarkDude> althara, +1 <valorie> \o/ <valorie> I'm liking it so far also, even though my connection is so slow it's laughable.... <valorie> I think comcast is throttling, the basta*&s <seattlegaucho> I haven't proved it yet ... but comcast throttles <seattlegaucho> every time I have to do heavy downloads ... I notice that things start to slowdown quite a bit after 1hr or so <valorie> well, this is uploading <valorie> but it would be hell to restore from a backup at this rate! <valorie> weeks, literally #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-11 <seattlegaucho> Ouch! <DK12> big kaboom <valorie> kaboom? <valorie> if so, I didn't hear it <valorie> however, either my laptop, my KDE updates, or comcast hates me being connected today <mfdk> mini card reader melted :( <mfdk> almost started a fire <valorie> yikes! <valorie> I've never heard of that happening <valorie> a short inside it, or what? <mfdk> they had a small cushion on top of some little processor piece in the housing and the cushion melted onto the processor <valorie> capacitor inside, maybe <valorie> those can be wicked <mfdk> i had just transferred 10 gigs of data <mfdk> and it started smoking like crazy <valorie> oh good lord <mfdk> yeah no good <mfdk> the 32g mini card survived the ordeal, still works in my fone :) <valorie> oh good! <valorie> you might wanna report that somewhere -- at least in a blog or somethiong <valorie> thing <valorie> so people are warned <valorie> imagine starting the process, going out to dinner or something <valorie> and coming back to a smoking ruin? #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-13 <ejv> greetings, I am trying to find a Loco for the Pacific Northwest, Portland specifically. Could anyone point me in the right direction? :) <Salt> i believe it's #ubuntu-us-or <Salt> ejv, i thought they were somewhat active.. <Salt> maybe they fell apart <ejv> yea it's a bit meager in the channel <ejv> was curious if i was in the wrong place <Salt> a shame <Salt> we started ubuntu-pnw as a co organization <Salt> or wa and other pnw locos <Salt> then we got split apart <Salt> and each of the locos has lost a lot of members <Salt> but i'd hope things are continuing <ejv> that's unfortunate, why? <Salt> canonical mandates that it's one state per loco <ejv> I may be moving to the region in 6~8 months, would be nice to network with some fellow F/OSS people <Salt> well, there's definitely a oregon scene <Salt> for f/oss <Salt> if you could make it up for this, i'm sure you'd meet plenty: http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/ <Salt> http://www.pdxlinux.org/ seems up to date too <ejv> hmm #orlug <ejv> not quite ubuntu... but progress! <ejv> thanks salt <Salt> np <Salt> if you pass through seattle, i run gslug <ejv> im sure i'll be able to visit certainly <ejv> i'll be new to the region completely and will want to travel <ejv> perhaps gearing the ubuntu portland operations back up could be a part time project for me to sink my teeth into :) <Salt> :) <ejv> (although i have no idea what their activity actually is) <big_t> hello people <MarkDude> big_t, hello <big_t> no more oregon room? <MarkDude> There is <MarkDude> It is idle <MarkDude> New year - new try to get it going * big_t was nick stopsign <MarkDude> There ya go * MarkDude has wanted to talk to you for a bit <MarkDude> Pick a meeting time next month <MarkDude> We have had a few new subscribers <MarkDude> How are things for you? <big_t> good <big_t> works slow * MarkDude figured he would talk to you during winter sometime * MarkDude Dad has some off time also <big_t> my nick expired after 60 days someone took it lol <MarkDude> Punks <MarkDude> :) <big_t> since my names tom big_t fits <big_t> big as in 250lbs now lol <MarkDude> No kidding <big_t> my norm is 235 at 6'1 <big_t> no work and moma cooks good :) <big_t> so you guys wanna meet up next month? * MarkDude is still in California <MarkDude> So it looks like I can only coordinate Portland or Eugene <MarkDude> Doing an Ubuntu Hour <big_t> sounds good to me, only one hour drive portland or eugene. #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-14 <big_t> good morning <MarkDude> Ok Washington- it appears that Oregon Team has some signs of life <MarkDude> We want to have a meeting in Portland in Feb <MarkDude> If any of you folks are interested in helping- let me know * MarkDude will send announcement to WA & PNW list once details are sorted <cj> MarkDude: did you send the Oregon info to the WA list on purpose? :) <MarkDude> Um sure I totally meant to <MarkDude> rofl <MarkDude> oops <MarkDude> might as well sent it Cali Team also <MarkDude> Even funnier after I said I would *wait* to fill in WA later * MarkDude goes to re-send, and triple check difference between *OR* and *WA* <cj> :) <MarkDude> <sigh> the digital firehose, one must be careful with where it is pointed #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-15 <big_t> MarkDude: hello man, hows it going? <MarkDude> big_t, great <MarkDude> Just got back from setting up CLS <big_t> i have been getting hit hard with emails today :) <MarkDude> Im tellin' ya, there was a few month gap between threads for ORegon <MarkDude> And the Team seems to be making up for lost time <big_t> yea i guess, my blackberry has been going stupid all day lol <big_t> my company is getting too slow, might have to find a job and shut her down... <MarkDude> We may Sorry to hear that <big_t> wish i had a degree in something computers, tired of slow winters in construction. <MarkDude> degree not as much in need as skills <MarkDude> big_t, I know, I have a fence I am painting for a friend as a favor, I dont mind that. <MarkDude> Construction full time tho, is not always full time <big_t> yea i have been building computers, troubleshooting, building fences, anything for $$ <big_t> just ordered parts to build my uncle system, extra 200.00 :) <big_t> *uncle's * MarkDude would still be doing the same thing had he not broke his heel <MarkDude> Weird how well that ended up working out <MarkDude> If you are ok with doing social media, like facebook, Twitter, there a businesses that will pay to get them going <MarkDude> The trick is using Posterous.com <MarkDude> You are now an expert, you can charge $50-100 to get folks going - more if you are good :) <big_t> i wish a guy could make good money being a computer repair man <big_t> should advertise on craigslist with a custom add, mobile repair any platform. <big_t> MarkDude: never herd of posterous <MarkDude> in 5 minutes you can do 90% of what it can do <MarkDude> http://zareason.posterous.com/ <MarkDude> Company I used to work for. I was able to get 1000s of views by posting to Facebook , Twitter, youtube, etc <MarkDude> Once you set it up , you can even email to post, it sorts it all out <big_t> MarkDude: you seen that gold rush show? <big_t> them dummies give oregon a bad name <MarkDude> No I had not. I dont watch much TV #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-16 <big_t> good morning's #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-17 <big_t> MarkDude: what's going on man? <MarkDude> just got back from CLSwest <MarkDude> via a party at a hackerhouse last night <big_t> right on <big_t> learn anything? <MarkDude> Mostly video game folks and people behind social media <big_t> ahh <MarkDude> Great party tho :D <MarkDude> CLS was awesome * MarkDude loved it <big_t> i plan on coming next month <big_t> you guys figured it out yet? <MarkDude> visiting Portland? <big_t> MarkDude:will everyone bring their laptop's to this gathering? <MarkDude> idk <MarkDude> big_t, what are your thoughts? <MarkDude> Free Geek for a meeting and follow up with beer? * MarkDude cant make it, but can help make it happen <big_t> i thought you were comming <big_t> i am going to bring my laptop <big_t> well off to grandma's later on . * MarkDude figures go for free geek plan- give folks the choice of 2 differing dates #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-18 <big_t> good morning's #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-19 <MarkDude> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-23 <big_t> MarkDude: whats happening? <MarkDude> Hey there <MarkDude> Just getting ready to go see a friends band <MarkDude> When will you be in Portland? <androidbruce> so who's going to LFNW? <valorie> o/ <valorie> wouldn't miss it! <valorie> I'd better ping my son about it <androidbruce> valorie, i am trying to convince my wife to go <valorie> is she a geek? <valorie> my son tried to get me to go for years, but I resisted <valorie> now I'm sorry I didn't go with him <valorie> the hotel is really nice, the people are outstanding, and Bellingham is so beautiful <valorie> what's not to like? <valorie> even if she skips part of the fest itself, there is plenty to do <big_t> hello :) <valorie> hey big_t <big_t> any of you people play around with conky? <big_t> MarkDude: good all most afternoon. #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-24 <big_t> whats going on people :) * valorie is finishing up the amarok insider <big_t> right on, i just finish a conky.config :) <big_t> valorie: its simple and my first one, all ready working on weather and music integration for the next one http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=134074 <valorie> is conky the info off to the right? <big_t> yes <valorie> i use kub. rather than ubuntu, so I've never used that <valorie> that looks very cool <big_t> thanks <big_t> ubuntu10.10 here <valorie> 10.10 here as well <big_t> wow i did not notice thats kind of a bunk screen shot <big_t> should of used shutter... <MarkDude> Linux is a cult, but a good cult http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6kHE-S1x0 Me giving a talk in the suit #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-25 <androidbruce> valorie, <valorie> hey androidbruce <valorie> just back from The King's Speech <valorie> sooooo excellent! #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-26 <androidbruce> so anyone running ubuntu 11? <valorie> not me, androidbruce <valorie> but I am in KDE 4.6 #ubuntu-us-wa 2011-01-28 <androidbruce> anyone alive tonight <big_t> sure, well kinda :| <androidbruce> ha #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-01 <ievans3024> Happy local new year! #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-03 <androidbruce> hope everyone had a safe holiday #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-04 <valorie> happy new year, folks * valorie just got home from Vancouver <MarkDude> Happy NYE valorie <MarkDude> Looking forward to you making it down for UDS <MarkDude> Not to big of a trip <MarkDude> :D <valorie> we'll see <valorie> my daddy should be much better by then <valorie> should be possible <valorie> and fun! <MarkDude> It will me all sorts of fun * MarkDude is already helping organize some sortof tour thing <MarkDude> People want to see the area * MarkDude will have folks get on MUNI and all sorts fo interesting things #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-09 <locodir-user> hello guys do you know if the iphone syncs well with ubuntu <bkerensa> ahh <bkerensa> =/ <bkerensa> they left too fast * bkerensa wishes LoCo Council would let us all merge into PNW <valorie> or at least share channels <valorie> I see why they split into all states <valorie> but wish that PNW hadn't been depricated #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-10 <bkerensa> :) Any progress on my interview questions? :) <bkerensa> valorie: ^ <valorie> oh shoot, I finished half-way and forgot <valorie> to finish <valorie> it's my sister' <valorie> s night with dad, I'll finish tonight <bkerensa> =o <valorie> sorry for the delay <bkerensa> its ok :D <bkerensa> How is your dad doing? <valorie> eh <valorie> progress is so slow <valorie> and patience isn't my strongest quality #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-16 <bkerensa> valorie: What do you think about Washington coming down for the 12.04 Release? :) <valorie> oh gosh, what's the date? <valorie> I'm very much out of touch <bkerensa> April 26th is release day <bkerensa> while most locos will aim for April 28th or May 5th <bkerensa> :D #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-17 <anjilslaire> hey, its snowing outside, lol <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> valorie: Ubuntu Oregon got denied approval <bkerensa> =/ <Salt> srsly? <Salt> i wonder if we can re-apply to canonical as ubuntu-pnw, it makes WAY more sense v_v <bkerensa> Probably not <bkerensa> the funny thing is they said Ubuntu Oregon doesnt have enough history <bkerensa> and our LoCo existed months before any of the existing approved U.S. LoCo Teams <bkerensa> they said we need to show more I guess in documentation yet we do our team reports and they approved a LoCo before us that does document at all <Salt> that sucks <Salt> but yeah, here isn't the place for me to rant about canonical <valorie> damn it, bkerensa <valorie> that sucks <bkerensa> yeah <bkerensa> I don't understand it <valorie> sec <valorie> gosh, weather tomorrow is supposed to get seriously winter <valorie> bobby went to buy extra gasoline for the generator <valorie> canonical isn't the problem <valorie> the CC is the one doing the approving <bkerensa> yeah <bkerensa> well LoCo Council <bkerensa> and I pointed out that they approved a loco before us that had no documentation at all <bkerensa> and then they said they couldnt approve us due to lack of history <bkerensa> to me thats just bizarre <bkerensa> and unfortunately there is no way I can appeal to Community Council and even if I could I think they would just back the LoCo Council <bkerensa> There should be clear expectations published in a Wiki that they use in voting and they should use that for all loco's <bkerensa> Transparency and Fairness imho <valorie> just try again in a few months <valorie> you'll get it, 'cause you rock * valorie goes off to visit dad early today <valorie> weather seems threatening #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-23 <bkerensa> valorie: Any progress on the interview questions :) I'm hoping to have it up this week if possible <cj> o/ <bkerensa> hi <bkerensa> hi cj #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-26 <bkerensa> valorie: Are you about? <cj> hi bkerensa :) <cj> bkerensa: she's always here! <bkerensa> :P #ubuntu-us-wa 2012-01-31 * seattlegaucho hasn't been here in a while #ubuntu-us-wa 2013-01-04 <valorie> sign, and pass it along! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/promote-use-free-software-our-schools-libre-office-gimp-gnu-cash-and-other-gpl-software-which-cost/T1xGw1fZ #ubuntu-us-wa 2013-01-31 <MarkDude> Anyone going to Scale? #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-10 * seattlegaucho this place looks deserted <Salt> I wish it looked desserted <valorie> dessert -- geeky cookie-baking: http://sweets.seriouseats.com/2013/12/the-food-lab-the-best-chocolate-chip-cookies.html #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-14 <Salt> LFNW cfp just went out - http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/present <valorie> thanks Salt #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-18 <androidbruce> #ubuntu-wa-us <valorie> yep, you're here <valorie> :-) <valorie> dunno why they do us-wa, instead of wa-us, but they do #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-19 <androidbruce> yeah <androidbruce> kinda of a pain <androidbruce> kind of* <valorie> I suppose because there is usually a country for local teams <valorie> just that the US has 50 states and I suppose some territories and such <androidbruce> right that makes sense <androidbruce> i just got a fresh ubuntu server install going on some old hardware <androidbruce> always fun <valorie> very nice to hear <androidbruce> i've been all redhat centos for a while <androidbruce> but i'm back with ubuntu, work is doing a change over * valorie was just dealing with a stubborn debian guy on #kubuntu <androidbruce> all new installs are ubuntu at work now <androidbruce> ahh debian <androidbruce> yeah <androidbruce> i still can't deal with kde <valorie> multiple screens don't work -- install Kscreen <androidbruce> i love MATE <valorie> can't, it's TOO NEW <valorie> sheesh <androidbruce> oh ha <androidbruce> yeah <valorie> so I just sent him off to OFTC <androidbruce> oftc? <valorie> the debian irc network <androidbruce> gotcha <androidbruce> makes sense <androidbruce> send him to them <androidbruce> if he's using debian <valorie> exactly <valorie> he's back in the dark ages, and if he likes that, fine <valorie> but I don't know how to make fire with two sticks <androidbruce> nice analogy <valorie> it was born from frustration <valorie> lol <valorie> also: I have actually tried to create a spark with two sticks, and it's *really difficult* <valorie> even using flint and iron is hard, because you have to get the spark in the right place <valorie> no wonder matches and lighters were invented, geez * koanhead is a stubborn Debian guy running MATE :^) <valorie> hey, if the tool is fit for what you want/need to do, fine <valorie> like I said, I like debian <valorie> but dislike whining about not being able to use modern apps/widgets/etc. <valorie> also: stubborn can be admirable <valorie> depending on what you are being stubborn about! <koanhead> valorie: I just love debian, even when it's cruel to me <valorie> that reveals so much, koanhead <valorie> lol <koanhead> xubuntu is cool too I guess <koanhead> I'm enjoying MATE so far, it's almost like having my old workflow back :^) <valorie> I'm friends with everybody #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-23 <androidbruce> is anyone coordinating a release meetup? <valorie> release meetup, nice idea <valorie> you should totally do that! <valorie> it's right around LFNW, right? * valorie is too far into the trees to see the forest #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-24 <Salt> would be cool if ubuntu-wa could coordinate a table with the debian-seattle folks <valorie> that is a truly awesome idea <valorie> who should I contact? <valorie> Salt: ^^^ <Salt> valorie, http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-seattle-social <valorie> thanks, Salt <Salt> np <valorie> it will be good to see you again <valorie> since I skipped SeaGL <Salt> which was pretty schweet <Salt> seems like dates are almost picked for this years <valorie> next year maybe it will work out <valorie> husband is planning to hike the PCT in two years <valorie> training and so forth is already starting to pick up <valorie> so dunno <Salt> very nice <Salt> I wouldn't mind doing that sometime <Salt> met a few people who were nearing the end of their treck <valorie> it takes ~5 months <valorie> so it will be after he retires <Salt> pack multiple pairs of shoes <valorie> I'll be hop-scotching around Cali etc meeting up with him, buying supplies, etc. <Salt> gotcha, fun :) <valorie> oh hell, can you see me walking 3000 miles in 5 mos? <valorie> I don't want it enough <Salt> I plan on spending this whole summer camping off a motorcycle hitting various events, conferences, and conventions <valorie> going to Debconf? <valorie> so tempting, so close.... <Salt> let me see, 3000 miles in 5 months, aprox 600 miles per month <valorie> but right before Labor Day, which is the cabin <Salt> roughly 20 miles per day <Salt> that's very doable <valorie> and the day after I fly off to Czech Republic for Akademy <Salt> dang, didn't realize when/where it was <Salt> I'd like to go... <valorie> the tough part is getting through the snow and over the flooded creeks <valorie> on the PCT <Salt> on my calendar <valorie> cool <valorie> I would like to go for at least a couple of days <valorie> we'll see <Salt> wtf, google calendar can't do a reminder of 16 weeks <Salt> that's bs <Salt> they only do a month out #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-30 <seattlegaucho> has a release meetup been decided / scheduled? I didn't see anything on email yet (I've been on the road quite a bit) <valorie> I'm up for pizza in town if folks in ~Seattle want to gather <valorie> LFNW is gonna sorta be the release event afaik <Salt> yeah, lfnw is basically the day <seattlegaucho> I'll be there one way or another <valorie> seattlegaucho: if you want a get-together in the greater seattle area, ask on the list <valorie> if there is interest, I'll organize one #ubuntu-us-wa 2014-01-31 <valorie> I never see anybody, so i'm always up for a party <seattlegaucho> I was curious to 'join' one ... I can inquire in the BELUG group <valorie> that is one group I've never gotten to <seattlegaucho> 2nd Tue every month ... venue is in flux since the kicked us out of the Bellevue Barnes & Noble <seattlegaucho> after almost 10 years running there <valorie> hmmmm, I wonder if my son Thomas could help out on that <valorie> he's a manager at the Bell. Office Depot <valorie> dunno if they have a conference room or so, however <valorie> which is I assume what you need <valorie> there is always the Bell. Library.... <seattlegaucho> they're looking into the Library ... but there were some issues <seattlegaucho> we don't do food / drinks ... so that wasn't it <valorie> problem with the library is that you have to ask monthly, so you are never 100% sure you will have the predicted date <seattlegaucho> that might've been it #ubuntu-us-wa 2015-01-12 <valorie> LFNW is coming up; are we going to do a table? <MarkDude> Rock it with awesomeness valorie ? <valorie> hi MarkDude <valorie> I know that KDE wants a table <valorie> not sure about *buntu users <valorie> happy new year, MarkDude <MarkDude> Hello <MarkDude> Manigong Bagong Taon <MarkDude> Happy New Year in Tagalog :) <valorie> tagalog is spoken in the phillipines, right? * MarkDude has been getting into KDE, mostly on F21 <valorie> excellent! <MarkDude> Yep, Im pretty good at understanding some. Amusing wjilst speaking it <valorie> we're just discussing that in linuxchix as well <valorie> a German friend of mine is learning Korean <valorie> it's so good for your brain to learn new languages <MarkDude> Is that a channel I can join? Its hard to keep track <MarkDude> Korean is great, it has alphabet <valorie> linuxchix has their own server: irc.linuxchix.org <MarkDude> and also not tonal <valorie> this guy picked up english by himself as a kid by reading english novels <MarkDude> Ah ok, today is misandry Monday in one of my channels, just found out #feminism is invite only * valorie is full up on channels and servers <MarkDude> Tonal languages can be hard to deal with, Vitenamese the most <MarkDude> I think they have like 1 million tones <MarkDude> or maybe 15 <MarkDude> Vietnamese :D <valorie> pretty damn hard to pick that up as an adult <MarkDude> Yep, my gf can manage some of the nuance on some Chinese phrases- similar to how Cali folks can say a few Spanish things <valorie> having a family/partner connection can make it easier to keep at it, I think <MarkDude> Im gonna record my singing with my gf, we are making a routine for a comedy bar. at the start I speak really bad Tagalog (quality) by end <MarkDude> The only negative has been folks thinking I needed to learn to speak to my gf- lol <MarkDude> Shes not FOB, shes been here since 80s XD <MarkDude> She was resistant at 1st- since no need, until she saw my interests- (long story) Im gonna write some on it. <valorie> even american born people of asian descent get that <valorie> where are you born <valorie> no, I mean, where are you really FROM <valorie> wtf <MarkDude> lol <MarkDude> Kristina Wong <MarkDude> <3 she talks about that, as well as Yellow fever <MarkDude> Let alone recent SNL Asian Doll skit <valorie> about time we became "majority minority" so that crap can fade away <MarkDude> my gf has gotten into some of my SJ stuff- she saw Janet Mock - said I think you'll like her <MarkDude> Well I think we should have more jokes, but how we do them <MarkDude> Since SNL Asian doll sketch, I have written at least 3 jokes deemed ok- by quite a few <MarkDude> Oh yes, SNL should actually hire Asian folks <MarkDude> I think there black humor may be fine, due to having black folks involved <MarkDude> Sorry - ranting XD <valorie> I know <valorie> I most always miss SNL these days <valorie> too many ads <valorie> not enough funny <MarkDude> I should prolly add LC to my irc <valorie> lots of great people there, and you already know some of us <MarkDude> I was just starting to enjoy some clips of theirs via social media * MarkDude is finding out"more of you folks know me" I mean that in sense of "the women" * MarkDude was given nickname Fedora- which is ok, but I have to clarify - I dont WEAR them <MarkDude> Feminism 4 men Rule 4- dont be so sensitive. Get over you fragile male ego :D <valorie> yep #ubuntu-us-wa 2016-01-03 <FreeB3ar> hello <valorie> hi FreeB3ar <valorie> happy 2016 <FreeB3ar> Hello valorie <valorie> how are you, FreeB3ar? <FreeB3ar> Cold,you? * valorie is enjoying 2016 so far <valorie> we were at our cabin in the mountains for the new year, and it was COLD there <valorie> warmer here <valorie> are you in the Seattle area? <FreeB3ar> That sounds splendid. * valorie lives about an hour south <FreeB3ar> Nah, I'm in Gray's Harbor County. <valorie> beautiful country down there <valorie> cold blowing in, eh? <FreeB3ar> My room has no heat aside from a candle and my computers which don't put out that much when it's cold.lol <valorie> yikes <valorie> time to compile something big! * FreeB3ar giggles <valorie> my old laptop would get so warm compiling amarok <FreeB3ar> Perhaps I should. Hmm. But what? <valorie> something you want to test, or work on? <FreeB3ar> I used to adore amarok. Now I mainly use Clementine. <FreeB3ar> As if I have time.. <valorie> I got started working in KDE by testing and then writing for Amarok <FreeB3ar> oh wow. :) <valorie> play on your strengths <valorie> mine were: being a beginning, and being a good writer <FreeB3ar> I never figured out KDE 4 so that's when I switched to XFCE. <valorie> so you run xubuntu? * valorie is a kubuntero <FreeB3ar> With 15.10 I actually switched from that to regular Ubuntu and hated Unity still so I've only installed Cinnamon so far to check it out VS my LMDE netbook. <valorie> I don't like unity either, but I've been a KDE fan from linux day one <valorie> which was Mandrake, back in the day <FreeB3ar> Ah,I remember Mandrake. <FreeB3ar> I think I used KDE with Sabayon nearly a decade ago.
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