#ubuntu-ops 2007-12-01 <jussi01> hmmm... does that mean less netsplits? <jdong> jussi01: (1) fewer (2) probably not. * jussi01 sighs... sad... <brendonw__> Question: Do I have to be tested for all nicks? <PriceChild> how do I always miss global notices? <PriceChild> brendonw__, no <PriceChild> brendonw__, its connection specific. <brendonw__> PriceChild: Thanks. This is a laptop, and every time I move between home and work, I get bounced here. <PriceChild> brendonw__, I would suggest that you *always* connect on port 8001 from wherever you connect. <brendonw__> My Konversation ONLY connects to port 8001 <brendonw__> That doesn't seem to help. <PriceChild> mind if i do a test? <brendonw__> Not at all <PriceChild> Well you seem fine. <PriceChild> And you don't seem to be banned from #ubuntu <brendonw__> It gets old to always get bounced, I wish I could figure out how not to. <brendonw__> No, that is the strange thing. It ADDS the readonly -fix the expliot channel, but #ubuntu & #kubuntu still work <PriceChild> I'd suggest you stop your client autojoining #ubuntu-read-topic <PriceChild> that or check it isn't a different channel <PriceChild> see your server tab, it should tell you what channel is forwarding you. <brendonw__> I'm wondering if it is a race condition on reconnection? <Palintheus> Did you guys get any notice about someone with a nick of 'FileSender' <PriceChild> Palintheus, yup, dealt with. <Palintheus> kk, just logged back into my screen and saw the DCC requests <PriceChild> Thanks Palintheus. <Palintheus> ;) <PriceChild> brendonw__, not sure what you mean. Check your server tab for what channel is forwarding you. <brendonw__> If I don't remember to disconnect before moving, when Konversion gets the network back, it looks like my nick is already in use, so it changes to the backup nic <brendonw__> and then it takes a moment to register automatically. <PriceChild> brendonw__, Check your server tab for what channel is forwarding you. <mneptok> jdong: oooo! another "less/fewer" Nazi! yay! <jdong> mneptok: the less/fewer nazis the better ;-) <brendonw__> PriceChild: Sorry, I was looking... <brendonw__> PriceChild: I don't see any message telling me that I was forwarded. <brendonw__> PriceChild: but #kubuntu isn't working, so I suspect that must be the one (this time) <PriceChild> brendonw__, if you join #kubuntu, you go into -read-topic? <PriceChild> (as well as a message on the server tab?) <PriceChild> Aha there is the ban! <PriceChild> brendonw__, you can rejoin #kubuntu now <brendonw__> Thanks, was it an old ban? <PriceChild> 10 days <brendonw__> Probably only from this location, which might have been why I didn't notice. <PriceChild> just that location yes <brendonw__> and with moving around a lot, I probably didn't notice the association. <brendonw__> PriceChild: anyway, thanks a bunch for the help! <PriceChild> no problem, sorry for the bother <Amaranth_> hrm, wtf <Seeker`> hmm <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) * nalioth pets floodbot3 <PriceChild> hehe :) <LjL> nalioth: pet, tsk, it was counting 8 more users in the channel than there actually were <PriceChild> when did it get confused? <LjL> PriceChild: dunno unfortunately, i don't have the other two bots' logs (restarted them earlier and overwritten), and it wouldn't be easy to spot from the lauren32@example.com. now i'm going to put in a periodic check against /who with a warning if the count is wrong <LjL> that's not intended as a fix of course, just something to let me find out why it happens <jdong> PriceChild: oh look noobuntu is in your fanclub too! <PriceChild> jdong, where? <jdong> PriceChild: #ubuntuforums <jdong> PriceChild: and his clone speaks too! <Tm_T> hi kids <jdong> hi mommy! <Hobbsee> hi toddler <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (MagySimpsom) <ubotu> zloog called the ops in #ubuntu () <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone awake? <Hobbsee> no <Jack_Sparrow> Hi Hobbsee <Jack_Sparrow> I think it is under control.. just a guy pimping automatix <nalioth> get a rope <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys -WatzUpDoc- on #ubuntu keeps posting some silly link and I believe its being lauren32@example.com... could can he be kicked/banned <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I dont see it... who is doing it <Jack_Sparrow> ah <crdlb> he must be doing with /notice <Ashfire908> The user "WatzUpDoc" is spamming me with a notice on join of #ubuntu <nalioth> /ignore works <Ashfire908> or that <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, I wonder what I have done... could be some troll just I suppose :/ <Hobbsee> got him. <Hobbsee> nalioth: he really is, he just got me. <Jack_Sparrow> never know who we piss off <Paddy_EIRE> lol <Paddy_EIRE> the most offensive thing about it is its done in flash noooooooo <ubotu> stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (boss) <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: patch is Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines. <Hobbsee> !patch is Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines. <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee <Hobbsee> !no patch is <reply>Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines. <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee <bbartek> Hi all <Seeker`> hi <bbartek> I would like to have a cloack <bbartek> is this the wright place to ask this? <Seeker`> what cloak? unaffiliated or member? <bbartek> yes <bbartek> i'm a new member <Seeker`> ... <Seeker`> ah, ok <Seeker`> i think it can take a while to get round to doing it <bbartek> i already have unaffiliated <bbartek> ok <Seeker`> I believe that you have to have two linked nicknames, and the email field set with nickserv <bbartek> I only have bbartek as a nickname <stdin> that reminds me, I need to ask someone with appropriate freenode-foo to get my cloak set up <stdin> bbartek: you need an alternate too, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration <bbartek> OK I'll check this page first <bbartek> thx <profoX`> how do I check if I already have a linked nick or not? <stdin> use /msg nickserv info profoX` <profoX`> I mean, I know I created one, but I don't know how to check that :) <profoX`> thanks <jussi01> Hmmm, anyone know who is supposed to clean up: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember after a meeting? <Seeker`> jussi01: what needs cleaning up? <jussi01> Seeker`: the lists of people waiting for membership at the next meeting, the list of recently approved people etc <jussi01> s <jussi01> Seeker`: practically everything as the meeting has happened... a new agenda to be set... <jussi01> heh... I just realised I posted the wrong link... I meant to post : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda <jussi01> sigh... <jussi01> :( <ompaul> jussio1, it is a wiki page - you can check who got memberships approved on lp and then update it if you want to <ompaul> jussio1, someone dropped the ball but it is oss <NickPresta> I was wondering if you could ban the user 'Barbecue' and 'FileSender' from #kubuntu. He likes to join and spam people with DCC file requests (I got 16 requests to transfer the file 'mirc.ini' last night and several a few days before from Barbecue and several requests for the Fedora 8 DVD Iso from FileSender). That is all they ever does when they joins #kubuntu. <ompaul> NickPresta, it is when you join the network he can be in any channel you are in, the good news is that when he does this he gets klined - that is removed from the full network <NickPresta> ompaul, okay. Thanks for the explanation. <ompaul> NickPresta, and most clients use the channel that is in the foreground to display what is happening <nalioth> NickPresta: please look at your time stamps, and /msg seenserv seen NICK <nalioth> those people are usually klined within seconds <nalioth> AndrewB: bookmark. <Tm_T> :)) <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys how do I get /ignore to work properly? <Paddy_EIRE> do I do /ignore name all <Paddy_EIRE> as it aint working <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: what client? <Paddy_EIRE> oh sorry xchat <Paddy_EIRE> Seeker`, ^ <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.... I dont seem to have yelp.. <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: try <Seeker`> /ignore NICK!*@* ALL <Paddy_EIRE> thanks Seeker` <Paddy_EIRE> Seeker`, out of curiosity what does the *@* imply.... * is a wildcard I take it and the @ is for there IP ?? <Paddy_EIRE> *their <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: a hostmask is made up of many sections <Paddy_EIRE> oh... * Paddy_EIRE needs to do an N+ <nalioth> the @ is a seperator from nick!ident@host <Seeker`> N+? <Paddy_EIRE> ahh <Paddy_EIRE> Network + <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: you're gonna improve our network? <Paddy_EIRE> networking is not one of my strong pursuits <Paddy_EIRE> no lol <Paddy_EIRE> I'm behing 2 routers and would at least like to learn how to configure them <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: ah, that is simple <nalioth> 1) get rid of one router <Paddy_EIRE> lol <nalioth> 2) visit portforward.com <Paddy_EIRE> yeah I did that <Paddy_EIRE> the manuals seem to use different terminology from what I see on my router/s config screen <Paddy_EIRE> maybe a firmware update... <Paddy_EIRE> I need router 1 for getting me the internet and the other is for providing me with wifi <nalioth> o_0 <Paddy_EIRE> although I'm going of into a tangent thanks for the help anyhow <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: Are they both actually routers? <Paddy_EIRE> yeah <Gary> can you not use one to do both? <gary4gar> hello, please clear my Ban it has been such a time. <Paddy_EIRE> no... one has no modem <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: buy a cheap wireless card, stick it in a box and use it for your WAP <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: spend Â£40 on one that has both? <Paddy_EIRE> Seeker`, yeah I need to find one... I want a linksys <nalioth> just get a used wireless card from a friend, and use one of your boxes for a WAP <Paddy_EIRE> nalioth, I have a box with a wifi card although its a broadcom chipset so :( <Paddy_EIRE> and it means I have to have it on all the time <Paddy_EIRE> noisey <nalioth> yep, broadcom sucks. i specifically DON'T buy cards with their chipsets <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: Netgear DG834 works well for me * Paddy_EIRE googles <Paddy_EIRE> from what I have read thought the 2 routers I have are very good... sooo many options it would make my head spin <Paddy_EIRE> hence I wanna do the N+ anyway <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: have you turned off the router functionality in the wireless one? (making it a switch, iow) <Paddy_EIRE> hmm <Paddy_EIRE> Seeker`, I may get that actually although I paid almost 100 quid for the 2 I currently have <Seeker`> Paddy_EIRE: it is what I use at the moment <Seeker`> I've used one for 3 years now <Paddy_EIRE> how strong is the wireless signal <Seeker`> it seems to be ok <Seeker`> i've got the router in one downstairs room, the wireless can be used upstairs <Paddy_EIRE> sounds ideal then <Paddy_EIRE> <3 my acer laptop.. wifi is so good in this thing <nalioth> use the lappy as a wap <nalioth> it's quiet and energy efficient <Paddy_EIRE> I need this for its portability mainly <Paddy_EIRE> otherwise I'd go for it <PriceChild> LjL, how's it goign? <LjL> hi PriceChild, been busy most of today... the bots are pretty much in good shape, yesterday's issue is solved <PriceChild> good good <Seeker`> Slowest. Response. Ever. <somerville32> Over an hour <Seveas> Seeker`, so? <jdong> somerville32: well some think slower and longer is better :P <somerville32> jdong, : O <jdong> lol I'm gonna get smacked for that one <PriceChild> Seeker`, his response was slow enough to mine, we both have these things called social lives i think :P <jdong> PriceChild: you mean you were updating your blog/facebook? <mc44> PriceChild: and LjL clearly doesn't ;) * somerville32 hugs mc44 <jdong> eww eww..... *runs away* * Seeker` hasn't heard of a "social life" * mc44 hugs somerville32 * jussi01 thought this was social life.... <somerville32> :) <Gary> whats "social"? <jdong> Gary: I think it's that 30% that gets taken away from my paycheck. <jdong> *grumble* * PriceChild laughs at jdong as he never had 30% taken off a paycheck <jdong> :P <PriceChild> and that has nothing to do with my never having a paycheck 8-) <Gary> ooowww, I just found the /cs clear command :-) <PriceChild> lol <PriceChild> oh god no... <Gary> it was fun <PriceChild> Klej came back. <Seeker`> Gary: where did you try it? <Gary> in ##Gary <Gary> six people left rather quick * jussi01 sighs and kicks himself for not backing up properly... :( <nalioth> did you not look before you put it in gear? <jussi01> nalioth: shhh... I just found i deleted a package i was working on... lots of hours just gone... <jussi01> :( * Gary tries not to giggle <Gary> sorry jussi01 been there, but heheee * jussi01 nips over to hobsees house, and borrows the long pointy stick of doom... <nalioth> ah <Pumpernickel> eek * PriceChild grabs the keys for the emp cannon locker <jussi01> PriceChild: long pointy stick of doom beats the emp canon hands down... * Seeker` loads the ICBG <Seeker`> Inter-continental-ballistic Gary <jussi01> hahahahahhhahahah <jussi01> hmmm, can someone check if they can get to the phasex site? http://sysex.net/phasex/ <Seeker`> unable to establish a connection... <Seeker`> cjo20@cdesk:~$ ping sysex.net <Seeker`> PING sysex.net 502.619.2016) 56(84) bytes of data. <Seeker`> 64 bytes from lysdexia.org 502.619.2016): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=178 ms <jussi01> yeah, thats what im getting also... #ubuntu-ops 2007-12-02 <LjL> mc44: .. -.. --- -. - -. . . -.. --- -. . .-- .... . -. .. .... .- ...- . -.-- --- ..- <ubuntu_is_awesom> help <ubuntu_is_awesom> first my mouse cursor is invisible in ubuntu (wow) then some oper kicks me instead help (nice) <LjL> about as nice as is to come into an "X" channel with a nickname saying that "X" sucks. <LjL> come back tomorrow please <ubuntu_is_awesom> yeap I had no basis for beeing angry, it is normal that mouse cursors are invisible <LjL> indeed, bye <LjL> oh, you can get a refund though <LjL> google for it, see you later <ubuntu_is_awesom> I was hoping to try to solve the problem, wow this community is so helpfull <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: merging is Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. <Hobbsee> merging is <reply>Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. <Hobbsee> !merging is <reply>Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee <Hobbsee> %register * Pici wonders why pelo isnt in here <effie_jayx> god <effie_jayx> I hate elections in my country... <effie_jayx> lots of people filled with the 11 o clock news come politically charged <effie_jayx> and vent all in the IRC channel <ethana2> How would one go about creating a channel for psubuntu on freenode? <ethana2> Anyone? <tonyyarusso> First, what is it? <tonyyarusso> Second, Pricey would want me to direct you to #ubuntu-irc instead of here. <ethana2> IRC channel for Ubuntu for the PS3 <tonyyarusso> ah <stdin> any staff about that want's to give me a shiny new ubuntu/member cloak ? <nalioth> stdin: for a quarter <stdin> sorry, we don't have 25p coins in the UK ;) <jdong> nalioth: ooh can we get humorous customized plates for double that? <nalioth> well, we can make it 100 quid, if you like <stdin> nah, I'll just give you a 20p coin and a 5p coin then <stdin> maybe with some fancy glueing I can make a quarter <coolbhavi> !OP <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo! <ubotu> coolbhavi called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () <nalioth> coolbhavi: please don't do that <jdong> what the heck was that? <nalioth> jdong: a lesson. <Hobbsee> git. <jdong> oh was he trying to get ubotu to op him? <Hobbsee> no, he's been banned. <jdong> Hobbsee: can we not unalias <bang>op? <Hobbsee> he was trying to get unbanned <Hobbsee> jdong: hm? <Hobbsee> oh, from here? heh <jdong> Hobbsee: a lot of bots out there use it (singular) as a command to give ops <jdong> Hobbsee: I mean for only the plural <bang>ops to work <Hobbsee> seeing as there should be none of them in any ubuntu channel, this should not be a problem <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: now, are you here about a channel emergency? <coolbhavi> yes.. To file an abuse report <jdong> Hobbsee: looks like op is alias ops... globally... <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: an abuse report is not a channel emergency. abuse repots can be filed at any time. <coolbhavi> OK didnt know that <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: abuse reports do not tend to need attention ZOMGABSOLUTELYRIGHTNOW! <coolbhavi> OK sorry <Hobbsee> however, now that you've called multiple people to look on with your non-emergency situation, it would probably be appreciated if you didn't keep them waiting :) <jdong> coolbhavi: yeah, everyone in here is an op to begin with , so you can just begin your report; pinging all of them signifies some extreme emergency and we usually drop what we're doing to respond ;-) <coolbhavi> OK...... Inspite of being an ubuntu member the Indian local community flamed me up and booed me out <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: your ubuntu membership is not a clear-pass to escape any punishment. if you are brekaing the rules, cloak or not, you will still suffer the same punishments as those without an ubuntu cloak. <coolbhavi> Ubuntu Indian channel doesnt follow the CoC and has excessive flaming <Hobbsee> (just a FYI) <coolbhavi> Ok..... <Hobbsee> however, i have not seen the channel in question, so cannot comment <coolbhavi> But too much of flaming and singling out going on <coolbhavi> its ubuntu-in... Go there without a cloak and discuss something you ll come to know * Hobbsee wonders if we have any indian speakers in this room <coolbhavi> they will treat me as a newbie <jdong> coolbhavi: do you have channel logs demonstrating such behavior so we can see the context? <coolbhavi> and consider my contribution to the community is useless <coolbhavi> I have the mailing list conversations <nalioth> we prefer the IRC logs, coolbhavi <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (game) <coolbhavi> * kart_ ({{EMAIL+PHONE}}) has joined #ubuntu-in <coolbhavi> <coolbhavi> hi kart_ <coolbhavi> <kart_> coolbhavi, <coolbhavi> <coolbhavi> who is the OP here? <coolbhavi> <coolbhavi> and what is meant by OEM in foss? <coolbhavi> * coolbhavi pondering about definition of OEM <coolbhavi> * coolbhavi googling <coolbhavi> <kart_> coolbhavi, why do you need to talk with OP? <coolbhavi> * phoenix24 has quit ("Ex-Chat") <Hobbsee> !pastebin <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) <coolbhavi> <coolbhavi> no just asking..... <coolbhavi> <coolbhavi> whats the meaning of OEM in foss? <stdin> coolbhavi: please use a paste service * Hobbsee waits. <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: have you not read the rules sufficiently to understand the concept of a pastebin? <coolbhavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46533/ <Hobbsee> thankyou. <coolbhavi> here it is <Hobbsee> 83 lines is *definetly* not appropriate to paste in here. <coolbhavi> OK I just pasted the whole log as instructed <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: what did you get your membership for, out of curiousity? <coolbhavi> to contribute to the community ofcourse <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: they should have banned you earlier, imo. <coolbhavi> why? I am not expecting anything <coolbhavi> from them <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: you repeated questions, needlessly asked who was ops (hint, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-in list), you'd get on the indian loco CC if they thought you were good, you're irrirtating people in there... <Hobbsee> and then throw a tantrum, saying that you're leaving, as you didn't get the position that you wanted. <coolbhavi> I am just looking forward to contribute to the community thats it.. <Hobbsee> from the log, it appears that youv'e done so multiple times <coolbhavi> i m not after any position hunt <Hobbsee> frankly, they should have banned you way earlier, until you'd learned not to be a pain in the neck. <coolbhavi> hey I m not there in the Indian loco team frankly.. because they wont support any ideas <coolbhavi> to improve the community <coolbhavi> so I got myself disaffiliated <coolbhavi> they targetted me on the mailing list for my ideas <Hobbsee> it appears you didn't present any ideas there, either. <coolbhavi> I have the whole 52 conversations <coolbhavi> I will paste it... Have a patient look please <Hobbsee> and if you pastebin it <Hobbsee> i'm going to kick you off the entire network. <Hobbsee> er, paste it in the channel <coolbhavi> In the pastebin <nalioth> why not just link to the mailing list? <Hobbsee> nalioth: irc based conversations? <nalioth> Hobbsee: his last words are about 52 mailing list conversations <Hobbsee> nalioth: oh, i assumed that by "52 conversations", he meant irc conversations, not mailing list ones...as we're the irc people, not the CC. <coolbhavi> OK leave it..... I m stepping out of that hell <coolbhavi> OK thanks <jdong> none of the -in ops hang out in this circle, do they? Their names don't ring a bell at all <Hobbsee> i've spoken to some of them before <jdong> tuxmaniac rings a bell... <Hobbsee> they're reasonably people - and they do speak english <Hobbsee> yeah - does some packaging <jdong> the other ones I don't believe I met myself. <Hobbsee> they wanted me to go do a talk at ubuntu-in <Hobbsee> er, at foss-in <jdong> cool <Hobbsee> [17:02] <coolbhavi> Sorry guys..... To have hurt your feelings <Hobbsee> [17:02] <HereBeDragon> morning <Hobbsee> [17:03] <HereBeDragon> whose feelings are hurt, coolbhavi? <Hobbsee> [17:03] <coolbhavi> Ok I admit its my mistake..kart_ <Hobbsee> heh, nice :) <jdong> well let's hope that resolves that. <Hobbsee> community looks kinda immature, though <jdong> Hobbsee: kinda makes me think of #ubuntuforums... odd close-knit pocket of people who goof around... <jdong> ;) <Hobbsee> heh <nalioth> FYI, i'm currently monitoring the floodbot(s) <stdin> when did they go in to action? <nalioth> we're trying them out in #ubuntu from a few hours ago <nalioth> manually opping and monitoring <stdin> ahh, didn't see them doing anything until just now <nalioth> someobody deopped the one <nalioth> i just snapped and reopped it <ubotu> Don64 called the ops in #ubuntu () <nalioth> taken care of <hypa7ia> any ops around? <hypa7ia> we have a bot spammer in #ubuntu-women :( <Hobbsee> nalioth: ? <Hobbsee> hypa7ia: which one's the bot? <hypa7ia> Hobbsee: hawtsalad <nalioth> i seen it <hypa7ia> annoying <hypa7ia> :( <Hobbsee> hypa7ia: i didn't know mirc *did* bots <hypa7ia> hahaha <Hobbsee> as in, i thought they versioned differently <Hobbsee> unless it's a version number fudging as well <hypa7ia> brobably <hypa7ia> to get around bans <Hobbsee> choo choo! <hypa7ia> :) <hypa7ia> thanks people! <hypa7ia> <3 <# <stdin> I think we have some slow joining bots in #ubutu <stdin> bots in -ops-monitor are going mad <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: pastebin is <reply> A Pastebin is a service where large texts can be posted as an alternative to flooding IRC channels. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ . After pasting, please copy the URL of the paste to the channel so others know where to find your data. <Gary> maybe they should run a /cs clear when they join? <stdin> why are they setting -Rr ? <stdin> definitely an attack coming <Seeker`> I cant see anything new in -ops-monitor since 6am <stdin> Seeker`: they're +m and the channel is +z <ubotu> Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu () <Seeker`> ah <ubotu> amidaniel called the ops in #ubuntu () <stdin> here it goes... <ubotu> ST47 called the ops in #ubuntu () <ubotu> Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu () <Dave2> ok, that was exciting. <ubotu> dutchie86 called the ops in #ubuntu () <Hobbsee> interesting that it's detected it as a netsplit <Amaranth> Whoa <Seeker`> wow, I dont think I've seen an attack like that before * Dave2 deops himself, what with named ops being around <Amaranth> Stupid bots were doing the exact opposite of what they should have been <stdin> gotta love that k-line train <Seveas> yeah <ST47> Please be less of idiots, show some form of control over your channel, one of the largest and (seemingly) understaffed on freenode, and unban me. <Hobbsee> hah <Amaranth> ha * Hobbsee would have thought the klines were obvious enough <Seveas> why does wikipedia keep giving cloaks to fools? <Dave2> I +rRd, BTW, so be sure to take that off since it seems to be +m now anyway <Amaranth> So the bot reads attacks as netsplits? <stdin> probably because of the speed of the bots being k-lined <Hobbsee> at one point, yes <Seeker`> hmm, it seems like they got right past the bots <Gary> blimey, I take more care who I give a colchester-lug cloak too <stdin> because the bots were doing -rR rather than +rR it seems <Amaranth> stdin: No, why they were joining <Amaranth> Right, it was doing the opposite of what it should have been <tomaw> you can detect netsplits by looking at the quit reason <Amaranth> Instead of +rR and having the limit bounce them it did -rR and removed the limit :P <Seeker`> i dont know whether the bots just slowed down the joins <Seeker`> Amaranth: While they were joining, the limit was going up by 11 every 30 seconds or so <stdin> how come they didn't call ops in #ubuntu, only -ops-monitor (where they are all muted)? <Amaranth> heh, good question <Seveas> --- Seveas sets ban on *!*@200.217.* <Hobbsee> here we are again... <Amaranth> why are they muted anyway? <Seveas> they're back <Amaranth> Seveas: Do you have a /panic trigger or something? <Seveas> neh <Amaranth> you should get one :) <ompaul> watch the ban list <stdin> I think the floodbots are in shock now, they didn't see the mass-join <Seveas> <ST47> Can you please be less of a hardheaded fool and begin to comprehend that #ubuntu is, apart from being horribly vulnerable, completely understaffed, and needs +J? * Hobbsee did have a /help * Hobbsee has lost it <stdin> wow, they just won't quit... <Seeker`> seems to be a pretty determined attack <Seveas> <ST47> It's actually quite simple, even a mostly blind up such as yourself could save the channel so much hell <Gary> he seems like a nice person <Hobbsee> have you pointed out that we *do* use a +J <Amaranth> Err, no we don't <Amaranth> That's what FloodBot is for <Seeker`> Hobbsee: it isn't +J at the moment <Amaranth> We tried +J and failed <Seeker`> but, as far as I can see, it just slows down the join rate to ~ 11 every 30 seconds or so <Hobbsee> oh, i thought the bots were using +J <Seeker`> Hobbsee: No, they use +l <Hobbsee> ah <Hobbsee> thought they used both <Amaranth> Perhaps we could just ban all of argentina? <Seeker`> I *think* the change the limit to number of users +11 if the number of users in the channel has a net change of 4 within a minute <Hobbsee> am <Hobbsee> Amaranth: *grin* <Amaranth> I don't know anyone from there <Amaranth> 3 people from one machine just joined <Hobbsee> Seveas: these multiple people joining every few minutes, from different hosts, is worrying me. i think this is their next attack <Hobbsee> i think they've realised that the others arent really working <Seveas> Hobbsee, yes it's worrying indeed... <Hobbsee> ther'es another 2 <Amaranth> amidaniel is getting annoying <Hobbsee> yeah well <Seeker`> what is a amidaniel doing? <stdin> being a busy-body <Hobbsee> whack-a-mole on a global scale <Hobbsee> train's filling up awful fast. <Seveas> choo choo <Hobbsee> hehe :) <Amaranth> ST47 is bothering me now <Seveas> he's an annoying prick <Amaranth> Trying to explain how +J is a cure-all <Seveas> who thinks he knows everything <stdin> let him know that you have considered his advice carefully, but don't care :) <Amaranth> I've basically said that 3 times now <Hobbsee> Seveas: it looks like there are some more getting caught in -unregged, if you care about them <Seeker`> just tell him that he can run his channel how he likes, but leave the running of ubuntu to the ubuntu ops <Seveas> I ditched the -r <stdin> floodbots have been quiet for about 30mins now, seems the attack was too much for them <Seeker`> thats bad <ompaul> Dec 02 12:55:09 * FloodBot1 sets mode -r #ubuntu <ompaul> Dec 02 12:55:09 * FloodBot1 sets mode -R #ubuntu <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:01 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1302 <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:25 <FloodBot1> !netsplit <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:25 * FloodBot1 removes user limit <ompaul> Dec 02 13:48:09 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1198 <ompaul> Dec 02 13:50:13 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1192 <ompaul> it is 13:57 my time <ompaul> so that looks okay - it got into a netsplit thing and then dropped limit with the amount of parts <ompaul> LjL, ^^ you might want to look at the interaction there - overall I am happy enough, when it gets to be too much it defaults in a sensible way <LjL> ompaul, been reading some logs, so there was an attack and the bots behaved kind of questionably (at least, from what i can see so far, it seems like they behaved a bit questionably), could you summarize what happened? logs are useful when you know what you're looking for <ompaul> LjL, ehh let me find something useful for you] <LjL> ompaul, note i *do* have logs of all channels and of the bots as well, just need to put the pieces together <Hobbsee> constant botnets. <ompaul> LjL, at your time 12:51 we had slow joining bots <LjL> ompaul: (i can start with saying: the assumption of a !netsplit might have been sane, what was *not* sane was calling "!ops | mass join" like 50 times) <ompaul> LjL, from there <LjL> 12:51? my time is utc *plus* one :) <ompaul> LjL, did not notice that lots of time <ompaul> LjL, I know your time <ompaul> woops <ompaul> my time <ompaul> 12:51 <LjL> ompaul, that's because they're doing it in #ubuntu-ops-monitor and they're muted there, so unless you're opped, you won't see that (and ubotu ignores it as well) <ompaul> woops <ompaul> 13:51 <LjL> yeah 13:51 is more matching with my logs <ompaul> LjL, I'll drop in there if it is of use going forward <LjL> ompaul, sure, they give a couple of warnings and stuff (or at least they did when one of them was opped... not they aren't, but i forgot to remove the mute =) <ompaul> LjL, what I liked was the bot standing off at 13:56 but I think the recovery time was too long <ompaul> assume that 10 mins game iis over <ompaul> also a good assumption is that if you see klined we can remove bans in #ubuntu <ompaul> hash up and mash up the ips <LjL> ompaul, that's a bit too complicated to implement now <ompaul> that is where it could beat the humans <ompaul> LjL, no worries <Hobbsee> a lot of them joined from multiple IP's <Hobbsee> er, from teh same IP's <LjL> ompaul, about recovery times, PM <ompaul> call it feed back <LjL> Hobbsee: bot has no notion of hostname <Hobbsee> it would be good if it could parse for 2+ connections from the same host <Hobbsee> well, even 3+ would do <Hobbsee> no one has any legit reason running more than 2 connections <ompaul> Hobbsee, you need to make a white list in that case for himself thats one <ompaul> :) <Hobbsee> ompaul: well, there would be a few, yeah <Hobbsee> ompaul: excluding those who run bots, there isnt. <Hobbsee> ompaul: besides, i thought the bots were cloaked <ompaul> Hobbsee, yeap well you can't discount that someone will not get a cloak to flood the channel <Hobbsee> ompaul: bot cloaks are hard to get <ompaul> Hobbsee, and as a bot master I am going to reg them as bots? <Hobbsee> ompaul: no, not those bots. i meant LjL's bots, and ubotu and clones. <Hobbsee> official ubuntu bots <ompaul> okay <LjL> Hobbsee, clone detection is something i could probably add in <Hobbsee> LjL: *nod* <ompaul> LjL, that would be useful - set limit of 3 to react to I think <effie_jayx> I need some help <effie_jayx> I need to close down a channel <effie_jayx> or at least have it redirect to ubuntu-ve <effie_jayx> #ubuntu-ve-offtopic... <PriceChild> ok cool <PriceChild> *finds wiki page* <PriceChild> ah you're not contact <effie_jayx> I am not <effie_jayx> where ? <PriceChild> nalioth, could you make effie_jayx contact in #ubuntu-ve-offtopic please? (he is contact for -ve) <effie_jayx> today is election day <PriceChild> effie_jayx, once nal changes that, you need to /msg chanserv identify #ubuntu-ve-offtopic, then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/MovingChannels <PriceChild> Pardon? <effie_jayx> and some guys started the channel to discuss politics in the channel <effie_jayx> since I was explicit about no potlitics <effie_jayx> they though... hey <effie_jayx> let's register an offtopic and talk there <PriceChild> tell them to move out of #ubuntu/#ubuntu-ve namespace. <effie_jayx> :S <effie_jayx> I have <LjL> effie_jayx, they can do that, just not in an #ubuntu* channel... <effie_jayx> LjL, but they registers the ubuntu-ve-offtopic just to talk politics <LjL> indeed, they can't do that. <effie_jayx> and politics is an ugly issue in my country <effie_jayx> they just did <effie_jayx> I am not contact in thaht channel <effie_jayx> so I can't have it redirect to #ubuntu-ve <PriceChild> You've just got to be patient for nalioth I'm afraid. <LjL> effie_jayx, i cannot help you right now <LjL> need staff <effie_jayx> PriceChild, ok... <effie_jayx> I'll guard the channel til then <LjL> so will i, but there's little we can actually do <LjL> effie_jayx: the_pumpkin opened another channel...? *scratches head* <effie_jayx> LjL, he says it was there <bbartek> I just became an ubuntu member, can somebody please give me a cloack <LjL> he's right <LjL> bbartek: give me your launchpad address please, and make sure that 1) you have a secondary nickname set (tell me what it is), and 2) you have a valid email listed in nickserv <bbartek> https://launchpad.net/~bart <bbartek> secondary nick bbartek_ <PriceChild> bbartek, you've linked the two nicknames on nickserv? <bbartek> yes <effie_jayx> LjL, no matter how much you try to tell em not to do things <effie_jayx> they think the IRC is the island on the Lord of the flys <LjL> effie_jayx, well, they're not in there, at least <effie_jayx> LjL, sorry to bother you with this <LjL> not at all, we're here for this <LjL> except, we are also in #ubuntu-irc *whistles* :P <bbartek> LjL, is the cloack active already? <LjL> bbartek, no, not yet, freenode staff will have to do the actual cloaking, be patient <bbartek> OK, thank you for the info and effort <Ximal> How do you go about posting a possible issue or bug you found ? I noticed a possible huge security flaw ... in the lamp installation for ubuntu .. <jdong> Ximal: you can certainly discuss it here to decide whether or not it's a valid bug, but ultimately it needs to go onto Launchpad <jdong> you can set a privacy level on there by ticking the security issue checkbox <Ximal> Ok.. When I tried to install phpbb i first copied all the files i downloaded to a file in www/forum <Ximal> then modded the files... config.php with -rw-rw-rw <Ximal> once i did that i went to the proper file through my browser to begin install.. <Ximal> Once i did that i began to get errors about my mysql server.. <Ximal> Once I went for support in ubuntu... I was told there is NO password for mysql,, <Ximal> somehow when I hit install on the /www/forum/install,php or whatever it was... the password i entered became my mysql password <Ximal> which should not have been able to be changed by the install files from a forum installation of phpbb <Ximal> It's the reason in the ubuntu channel , no command they gave me requiring a password would work <Ximal> the end ? <jdong> hmm, no idea on if that's a Ubuntu security problem or not <jdong> it sounds to me like a configuration problem with your particular phpbb install <Ximal> well... it's a lamp installation security issue ? <Pici> you can ask in #ubuntu-bugs whether its bug-worthy or not <Ximal> is it possible it's a flaw in the way phpbb tried to install and somehow in their scripting on the web-interface changed my pwd ? <Ximal> oh ok.. heh.. didn't know the proper channel pici <Ximal> thank you very much guys.. <Ximal> bye.. <Seveas> nalioth, what's the status on the GCF's for the council? <jdong> Globulin Codimerization Factors.... Greatest Common Factors... Green Chloroform Fluid..... ok I give up on deciphering that <LjL> jdong: group contact form <jdong> ah :) <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) <LjL> uhm that was probably a false positive <Pici> Yah <PriceChild> lets see :P <effie_jayx> nalioth, ping <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) <nalioth> effie_jayx: pong <PriceChild> *just* at the limit again.. <PriceChild> nalioth, can you give him #ubuntu-ve-offtopic please? <nalioth> PriceChild: um, he _has_ it <jdong> PriceChild: I think it's time for statistically sensitive join profiling :) <effie_jayx> nalioth, thanks <PriceChild> nalioth, Sorry, didn't realise because nothing was said. <nalioth> effie_jayx: you forgot what channels you have? <PriceChild> nalioth, I think there's a cloak request up there too incase you missed it. <PriceChild> Or are you a beast and got that one too as silent as a fish? <nalioth> i don't see any cloak requests with my nick attached <effie_jayx> nalioth, heh, I don't remember it being on my list <nalioth> if my nick isn't attached, i don't get it in the /awaylog <jdong> PriceChild: since when were fish silent? <nalioth> effie_jayx: /msg nickserv info effie_jayx <PriceChild> nalioth, bbartek <PriceChild> jdong, when's the last time you heard one call out to you? <jdong> PriceChild: they have tree-huggers do that for them. <jdong> PriceChild: and they are quite loud and annoying <jdong> and intrusive <jdong> :) <ikonia> hi guys <stefg> hi, just for curiosity: What is that floodbot, and what's the purpose? <LjL> stefg: setting +l and stopping attacks. <bbartek> PriceChild, <LjL> jdong: statistically sensitive join profiling... you mean like plotting a distribution of how many joins there are in one minute? <PriceChild> bbartek, ? <bbartek> yes <LjL> ... <bbartek> you caaled me? <LjL> erm no, you called PriceChild <bbartek> PriceChild, called me and nalioth before <PriceChild> bbartek, I was calling him to sort out your cloak. <bbartek> ow, sorry misonderstud this message <bbartek> thanks for the effort guys <Jack_Sparrow> I cant believe Ljl hasnt strangled that guy yet. <LjL> i kick innocent people to make up for the lack of strangling <LjL> beware <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone.. take care, see you all tomorrow. Thanks for the fine work <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: Go ahead kick me if it makes you feel better... I was leaving anyhow <bbartek> thx for the cloack, it's ok now :) <jussi01> PriceChild: thanks for the little input ;) * Pici shakes his head <Kagar> I'm sorry Pici <Pici> You dont need to apoligize to me, you broke the rules, not my rules. <Kagar> I hadn't realized completely what I was doing <Kagar> But, how long is the banishment? <Pici> 24 hours. <Kagar> All right. <Kagar> Then I shall see you in 24 hours. <Kagar> mmm <macogw> if i'm an ubuntu member, how do i get the member cloak? <LjL> macogw, please tell me your launchpad URL, and make sure you have a secondary nickname set (tell me which) and a valid email in nickserv <macogw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~maco.m <macogw> um how do i see what i have set in nickserv? that was a while ago <nalioth> Freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup macogw <LjL> macogw: /ns info macogw <macogw> ok then i have macogw and macogw_ <macogw> and the email address is macoafi@gmail <LjL> macogw: thank you, you will receive a cloak shortly <macogw> thanks #ubuntu-ops 2007-12-03 <ikonia> evening <Seeker`> lo <ikonia> howdy <Seeker`> how be? <ikonia> well, you ? <Seeker`> not too bad <Seeker`> trying to do some work on my final year project <ikonia> yes, just finishing off some stuff too <Seeker`> i've been reading papers <PriceChild> Hey there lucian. <ubotu> greg-g called the ops in #ubuntu-us () <lucian> hi <lucian> PriceChild, how are you. <jdong> he's an android, he does not know how he is <jdong> apart from load averages and page faults per second <PriceChild> LjL, wth happenned there. <LjL> PriceChild, i have enough <PriceChild> anyway, lucian yeah i'm good, you? :) <greg-g> help in #ubuntu-us <greg-g> need to ban someone from spamming <LjL> greg-g, not sure any of us can help <greg-g> thanks anyways <PriceChild> I guess that guy had been in other places. <Seeker`> freenode staff may have been able to do something <PriceChild> Seeker`, freenode staff did something. <Seeker`> ah, ok <ubotu> In ubotu, Jordan_U said: offline is If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes, or you can use the "generate package download script" in synaptic <LjL> !offline <ubotu> If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/ <PriceChild> that's out of date... (feisty) <LjL> PriceChild: give me a web host that doesn't chop my uploads at about 90% systematically, and it won't be out of date <PriceChild> LjL, hey that's yours!!!!!! <PriceChild> :/ <LjL> quite <LjL> anyway this apt-zip integration in Synaptic, which i didn't know about, makes it obsolete in many circumstances <PriceChild> That's quite good. <PriceChild> apt-zip... *looks* <PriceChild> wow.... <PriceChild> "generate package download script" <PriceChild> That is by *far* the coolest feature of synaptic that I have ever seen. <LjL> bunch of wgets, works in windows too if you have wget installed <LjL> it's probably apt-zip's code copied and pasted <tonyyarusso> I just learned about that at our release party <LjL> i guess my page is not more useful, if anything, for simulating scenarios that do *not* match what you have installed on your system <LjL> s/not/now/ <PriceChild> yup <Jordan_U> LjL, It's nice in some circumstances still, for instance if you need to install a package on multiple computers and know they all have ubuntu-desktop installed but don't know beyond that, but then I guess you'd use apt-mirror <LjL> Jordan_U, or for when you need to install stuff from universe but don't have universe updated in apt to begin with <LjL> often the case for people who need to install winmodem drivers for instance <LjL> although there was a spec for making winmodems work better as well, dunno if it's got through * tonyyarusso shudders <tonyyarusso> I tried messing with a winmodem again today, without success <LjL> tonyyarusso: i'd like to as well, i've got plenty of hardware modems, but a winmodem could give me called ID access with the right demodulator <LjL> if only there were some /dev/dsp driver for it at least <LjL> (although, i've got VoIP so i *ought* to be able to get caller ID straight from IP, without even waiting for a ring... but that would only happen if my ISP weren't such pricks) <ubotu> ardchoille called the ops in #kubuntu () <PriceChild> cruel man... someone just ghosted greevous <PriceChild> and again <PriceChild> that's evil <crdlb> poke a staffer? <crdlb> I know some of them get really angry about that <PriceChild> nalioth, anything that can be done about that? :/ <tonyyarusso> someone who posted their password I take it? <PriceChild> yup <Hobbsee> idiot. <jdong> Hobbsee: meh at times it happens to the best of us... <jdong> still gives no excuse for others to ghost them to annoyance... <jdong> (didn't I do that once to tsmithe?)</guiltadmission> <nalioth> let me look into it <nalioth> aww, the perp has left <nalioth> advise greevous to change his pass immediately <ubotu> choudesh called the ops in #ubuntu (devon) * abogani looking for someone could add him to ubuntu-irc-cloaks team... <nalioth> abogani: why is that? <abogani> nalioth, because a i'm a new ubuntu member. <nalioth> abogani: what is your launchpad ID ? <abogani> nalioth: abogani <nalioth> abogani: enjoy your cloak :) <abogani> nalioth, Thank you very much! :-) <nalioth> :) <szkud> may I be tested? <nalioth> szkud: what's 2 + 2 ? <nalioth> j/k <nalioth> did you follow the instructions in the other channel? <szkud> yes <nalioth> ok, let's see <nalioth> szkud: good to go :) thanks for your patience <szkud> np <szkud> 'gg' * Gary hides <Gary> you are such a bully <Hobbsee> you asked for it. <Gary> if I were not homosensual, i'd marry you :-) <Hobbsee> homosensual? <Gary> well, like homosexual, but nicer <Hobbsee> ah right <ikonia> troll in #ubuntu <ikonia> madera <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, could just get reassigned :) <Hobbsee> ew, no <elkbuntu> tehe <Gary> elkbuntu, !!! lol <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i'm not of the "it" type. <elkbuntu> yeah, i think gary going straight has a better chance <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: are you reminded of that night in our hotel room? *g* <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i was trying to avoid that memory <Hobbsee> "binary interfaces"? <elkbuntu> that was the restaurant <Gary> night in our hotel room? - tell all? <elkbuntu> Gary, she just blurts out with 'quinn is on the other side of the wall' <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: yeah, but i thought it might help you remember <Hobbsee> Gary: we could hear moaning.... <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i didnt need nor want the help, kthx :Ã <Gary> lol <Hobbsee> Gary: thought it might be quinn * Hobbsee managed to stay alive <Gary> you shared a room? <Gary> way to go get a reputation :p <elkbuntu> Gary, i think we should explain. i am a curvy woman. quinn likes curvy women. <elkbuntu> Gary, very seperate beds kthx * Gary giggles <Hobbsee> Gary: twin rooms. <Gary> yeah yeah, very defensive now arn't we :p * Gary runs away <Hobbsee> and quinn thought i was going ot be "bigger and curvier" <Hobbsee> Gary: needless to say, we had a go at "it" all week. <elkbuntu> Gary, if you had a bearded 'lady' lusting for you, you'd be a little defensive too <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: you forgot to mention the changing boob size. <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, yes, however i still have the mental images from mountain view superimposed over the face area <Hobbsee> haha <elkbuntu> we should stop now... * Hobbsee ponders what it will look like the next UDS <ikonia> god no <Gary> :-) <ikonia> I've been enjoying following <ikonia> please continue <ikonia> :) <Gary> yeah, carry on, we need bribery material * ikonia makes blackmail notes * ikonia re-writes what has been said more incriminating <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, was it at boston do you know? <elkbuntu> ikonia, you might be enjoying it, i'm not particuarly <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i don't know. <Gary> I am, I'm getting funny looks due to my giggling <ikonia> elkbuntu: thats not what it says in my home grown notes ;) * elkbuntu kills ikonia and burns the notes... in whichever medium they are in. * Hobbsee decides that's not enough, and burns ikonia <elkbuntu> hehe <Hobbsee> problem solved. * Gary gets the marshmallows out <ikonia> oh <ikonia> :( <ikonia> thank you * Hobbsee sings "kumbaya" <Gary> oi, stay still while i'm toasting ikonia <ikonia> ha ha ha <ikonia> there is enough meat on me to feed all <Gary> burn elkbuntu she just said she had a large bottom <ikonia> no, she makes nice sounding food * Hobbsee would prefer *not* to burn elkbuntu <Hobbsee> lets burn Seveas <Hobbsee> he deserves to burn <Gary> nooooo, he's putting me forwards for a job <ikonia> I didn't think you could burn the devil ? <elkbuntu> rofl! <Hobbsee> no, Seveas burns. <Hobbsee> this is why he's always wearing his firefox hat outside. <Gary> no, thats to cover the ginger hair <ikonia> ha ha ha ha <Hobbsee> the son of scott james remnant, and elmo. yes <Hobbsee> definetly burnable. <ikonia> elmo !!!! laughing hard not <ikonia> now <elkbuntu> ikonia, not that elmo <ikonia> oh <Hobbsee> *snorts water over her screen* <ikonia> tickle me seveas <Gary> that would be the wrong button :p <Hobbsee> now *that* would be amusing <elkbuntu> ROFL! <ikonia> "I love you, will you by my friend" * ikonia patents tickle me seveas <elkbuntu> the tickle me seveas would throw kids into swimming pools <ikonia> ha ha ha ha <ikonia> it's a crowd pleaser <Hobbsee> heh <elkbuntu> ikonia, elmo = james troup, one of the canonical sysadmins && CC member <ikonia> ahhh <ikonia> thank you for educating me <elkbuntu> i had to finish laughing first * Hobbsee ponders the other elmo turning up at UDS <elkbuntu> bwahahaha <elkbuntu> i just had a thought... <elkbuntu> UDS boston included halloween... they did the dress up thing... what did elmo dress up as? <Hobbsee> i have no idea :) * elkbuntu doesnt know, but i seriously want a
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