#ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-19 <jussi> So it seems adobe reader is really unsafe. http://is.gd/c4EC4a <AlanBell> good job I use evince <jussi> yep <jussi> and I okular <jussi> it may however, be worth our people checking if any of the same holes are in evince and/or okular #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-20 <pterodactyl> hi <JoseeAntonioR> hello, pterodactyl <pterodactyl> hey #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-21 <Dantevios> hi k1l <AlanBell> hi Dantevios <k1l> hey <Dantevios> sup AlanBell <AlanBell> nearly done for the day I think <Dantevios> You over in the UK? <AlanBell> yes <Dantevios> cool your name sounds familiar for some reason <Dantevios> grrr i hate OSx so much <Dantevios> well time for lunch l8tr all <andrew_> hi <AlanBell> hi <andrew_> he your name is super farmilar ! <elfy> how droll <AlanBell> yus, we were chatting in #ubuntu <elfy> aah :) <TheLordOfTime> heh. <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell: you're in basically every Ubuntu channel (and some derivative channels), arent you? <AlanBell> TheLordOfTime: quite a lot of them, yes <MrChrisDruif> Hey AlanBell, your name sounds familiar for some reason...never mind. The rolling gag is over it seems... #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-22 <dragon_> any one got any ideas of maybe slipstreamin tha android kernal into a lxde distro...... like 4 netflix to operate, maybe even futher more optimise tha distro for netbooks an ever other devices ? ?? ? #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-23 <garrettk> Being completely impatient (and mostly trying to schedule my day), does anybody know when 12.04.1 will be coming out? The calendar says it should be today at 12:00am, but a recent check with the Update Manager (10.04 LTS) shows me nothing. <AlanBell> garrettk: it doesn't really come as a dramatic distribution upgrade <AlanBell> it should change /etc/lsb-release <AlanBell> ooh, actually, you are on 10.04 <AlanBell> so yes, that is a dramatic upgrade ;) <garrettk> AlanBell: Right - but I'm running the previous LTS release (10.4) and the docs say that I should wait for the .1 release to upgrade. I *really* want 2 years worth of dev fixes to my email client. :-) <AlanBell> I think if you do a sudo apt-get update it might tickle update manager into noticing the new release <garrettk> So I was hoping that I'd have the option to upgrade my whole system today. <AlanBell> or type do-release-upgrade at the terminal <garrettk> "No new release found" <garrettk> I'm assuming it hasn't been released yet. <garrettk> Hense the question about the release schedule. <AlanBell> looks that way. You can try do-release-upgrade -d to get it anyway <garrettk> (sorry if that came across as snippy - I checked the usual technical issues and if I thought it was technical I'd be in the usual technical support forums rather than clogging this forum with technical issues). <AlanBell> not snippy at all :) <AlanBell> I was expecting it to be out today <garrettk> Yeah, but working in enterprise software myself, I've come to appreciate the value of "best practices" :-) Stuff breaks less (or at least in more predictable ways) then. <garrettk> Okay - thanks for your thoughts. I'll just keep running the update commands until something interesting happens. :-) <AlanBell> looks like the iso images are not released either #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-24 <omnipotentfaggot> hello folks! does anyone know anything about Canonical's new CEO, Jane Silber? <omnipotentfaggot> (Mark Shuttleworth's successor) <AlanBell> omnipotentfaggot: that isn't very new news <travelhard> hi to all <omnipotentfaggot> when is ubuntu going to overtake windows? <AlanBell> already has <AlanBell> it is much better <omnipotentfaggot> I mean in popularity <k1l> AlanBell++ :) <AlanBell> hard to say really, they don't seem to be targetting the desktop at work very much <AlanBell> it is becoming a home user operating system really <AlanBell> Mac is the main competition, Windows is just inertia in the workplace <omnipotentfaggot> if any hardware manufacturing company would actually sell ubuntu computers that'd be a start. Dell did at one point, under the table <omnipotentfaggot> windows is trying to squeeze out the competition. e.g. with secured boot so you can't install any other operating system but the factory-installed one (Windows) without modifying the hardware <k1l> the problem is the microsofts market power. if you take a look at the netbook history you know what i mean <k1l> and with the secureboot thing on arm they demand back the arm market, which they obviously lost <AlanBell> Dell is going to sell an ultrabook again <omnipotentfaggot> 'arm'? <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: the other cpu architecture than x86. its build in in smartphones and tablets etc <omnipotentfaggot> 32-bit, 64-bit... * popey hugs his arm laptop <popey> and tablet <popey> \o/ ubuntu <k1l> i have a ubuntu port on my hp touchpad. but its really alpha state <omnipotentfaggot> http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell <AlanBell> popey: the Asus transformer infinity should be out next week here <AlanBell> would love one of those running Ubuntu <popey> is it tegra3? <omnipotentfaggot> k1l it's a tablet? <AlanBell> yes <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: yes? <omnipotentfaggot> cool. is it useable? <popey> my SmartQ T20 has Ubuntu on it <AlanBell> there were two processor options, but I think the quad core tegra 3 is the one we get <popey> Ubuntu doesn't work very well on tablets right now <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: early alpha state. thats enough to say i think :) <popey> AlanBell, what was the other option? please say OMAP4? <omnipotentfaggot> the ubuntu.com page about dell is kind of funny. "Dell and Canonical engineers collaborate every day to certify Dell hardware on Ubuntu, to a level that customers can rely on." i have a new dell laptop and I had to manually edit some code to get headphones to work when i installed ubuntu <k1l> i got an old dell and it runs ootb :) <elky> my 2009-ish dell is ootb too <AlanBell> QualcommÂ® MSM 8260A Snapdragonâ¢ S4 Krait Dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU(3G ) <AlanBell> NVIDIAÂ® TegraÂ® 3 Quad-core T33@ 1.6GHz (WIFI) <AlanBell> are the two processor options popey, but I only see tegra3 mentioned in recent articles <AlanBell> probably because we don't get the funky 4G mobile signal in the UK <popey> omnipotentfaggot, most new dells should 'just work', pretty much every dell model is certified to run ubuntu <omnipotentfaggot> now is a quad-core processor in a tablet actually equivalent to a laptop's quad-core? <omnipotentfaggot> popey - including Studio 17 <omnipotentfaggot> ? <popey> i dont know that particular model, but we work with them to certify them all <AlanBell> it is just quad core, most quad core laptops are quad core hyperthreaded, so appear as 8 distinct processing units <omnipotentfaggot> I love ubuntu, but I have to say "just works" has been just the opposite of my experience :) <omnipotentfaggot> just as well tho <popey> yeah, everyone has those experiences now and then * popey stabs the wifi in his imac <omnipotentfaggot> learning to pop the hood to fix a problem teaches you how to pop the hood for creative purposes <omnipotentfaggot> one thing that is absolutely fantastic is the level of documentation for every single error I have encountered on ubuntu. you can google your way out of any problem. you don't even need to come on IRC and ask for help <icequeen> howdy <MrChrisDruif> Aloha sissyphus <sissyphus> what's up friend? <MrChrisDruif> Nothing much, just some ceiling.... ;-) <sissyphus> lol. that took me a minute <MrChrisDruif> Almost of to bed tbh <sissyphus> jeez, are you in europe? <MrChrisDruif> No, I'm in Holland ;-P <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, troll-mode seems on. <MrChrisDruif> But yeah, Europe. CEST timezone #ubuntu-discuss 2012-08-25 <sissyphus> so what's the difference between ubuntu and debian? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-01 <Tm_T> Prism-break considers Ubuntu unsecure https://prism-break.org/ (including flavours and derivatives, just because) https://github.com/nylira/prism-break/issues/334 <Tm_T> I find that silly <jose> Tm_T: same here. it's just making a point in something that can be easily disabled <Tm_T> something different: ubuntu edge is making a nice impact on making ubuntu more visible to greater public <Tm_T> wife asked me the other day "what's that new ubuntu phone they're writing in papers?" <Tm_T> she avoid the whole ubuntu thing so I haven't pushed the information for her <jussi> Tm_T: nice :D #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-10 <AlanBell> u <AlanBell> gah <hrnz> what? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-16 <Strav> Hello idle people. Here's an interesting read that I felt I really could have written word for word" https://micahflee.com/2013/01/why-im-leaving-ubuntu-for-debian/ I'd like to know if regarding this, there is going to be a change of direction in ubuntu or are the plans for more and more advertising already well entrenched? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-19 <ShapeShifter499> hi <ShapeShifter499> I came across the "ubuntu is spyware" argument today, how do you guys feel about this? <bluefox83> ShapeShifter499: since you can change anything in ubuntu, including the whole amazon search thing and the function that sends your search statistics, it's a BS statement made by someone who clearly has no interest in ubuntu to begin with <bluefox83> they clearly decided that since it comes out of the box with a feature they don't like, it must be bashed. instead of just realizing that you can get rid of it <hrnz> you can get rid of any spyware <hrnz> doesn't make spyware good <bluefox83> doesn't make ubuntu itself spyware either <bluefox83> otherwise windows and OSX would also be spyware <ShapeShifter499> I'm feeling like going to debian due to all this, sure I can remove it now by purging a few packages or toggling it off in settings but could MORE of this be coming? <bluefox83> eh, maybe...you might try mint though <bluefox83> or just use gnome or xfce instead of unity...i use gnome <hrnz> ShapeShifter499: canonical could convert everything into proprietary projects <ShapeShifter499> the thing is I like how unity looks <bluefox83> i don't care for it... <bluefox83> yay for rediscovering how to use basic commands in irssi >.> #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-21 <lesser_panda> Morning all, anyone around? * hrnz is here <lesser_panda> I had a non-support question... <lesser_panda> Long story short I recently installed 12.04 LTS onto a slightly older laptop and, after getting a good handle on the basics, I've developed a keen curiosity for using the terminal and more "involved" uses of Ubuntu for a lack of a better term. I'm seeking resources and guides that would be helpful to a newbie like me. <DJones> lesser_panda: Not sure if these links will help <DJones> !manual <ubot5> The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ <DJones> !terminal <ubot5> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal <lesser_panda> I will take a look at both, DJones. Thanks! <DJones> lesser_panda: If you want other ideas, might be worth asking in #ubuntu-offtopic as well <lesser_panda> Thanks, I'll go pester them. <DJones> Good luck, ignore the trolls, the channel does have a few <DJones> But its a good place for general discussion <lesser_panda> All right! <DJones> Looks like you're being treated quite well there, you must have caught them on the sunny side :) <lesser_panda> Ha, apparently. Maybe it's just my winning personality? <DJones> Must be #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-26 <anonym624> help <anonym624> leph <anonym624> hello all <hrnz> hello <anonym624> how do long use ubuntu <hrnz> i don't <hrnz> and i've never used ubuntu in my entire life <anonym624> ok <hrnz> why do you ask? <anonym624> do you like ubuntu? <hrnz> nope <anonym624> and what do you like OS <hrnz> debian, arch, gentoo, fedora, exherbo, funtoo <anonym624> I like debian and arch too <hrnz> that's nice. #ubuntu-discuss 2013-08-27 <gavin19> hi #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-06 <colmat> Good morning! <colmat> do anyone here know of spiceworks? <colmat> xb <colmat> x <colmat> oups, sorry still new to emacs... <colmat> spiceworks is a huge IT pros community, 4 millions+ with partners, product, its a gold mine, A thread came up "Where are the Linux partners?" Because there is not a single Linux distro that is part of this community, we only have assumption as to why. I want to find out actually why and hopefully have Canonical/Ubuntu join #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-07 <Kira9204> Might not be the right place to ask but why isn't the net bios name set in smb.conf by default? I spent hours trying to get my TV box to find my ubuntu SMB share and well, that and bcast first in resolve order solved it #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-08 <llewis> Hello, I am wanting to ask a question about creating a new user account at next reboot for a client #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-11 <NicksCode> Is getting an IDS worth it for desktop? <NicksCode> Or too many false positives? <hrnz> no <manuel_> hi <manuel_> bye <manuel__1> hi <manuel__1> bye #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-20 <Lieutenant_S> 2 <hrnz> 3 #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-25 <Guest44384> hello #ubuntu-discuss 2014-08-31 <salar> hi. i have a problem with my virtual machine...i used these commands to install kvm( http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197258/ ) then when i run virtual machine manager and press create new virtual machine there is a warning saying : KVM is not available. this may mean the KVM package is not installed or the KVM kernel modules are not loaded. yout virtual machines may perform poorly.I have ubuntu 12.04 and Sony Vaio E Series VPCEA35FG, core i3-370M 2.4GHz <salar> 4GB of ram <salar> sry my msg didnt send completely.. i have a problem with virtual machine i used commands as link ablove and that error pops up <hrnz> bb <Lazza> Hello everybody <Lazza> is this the right chan to discuss some suggestions for improvements in the default ubuntu configuration (regarding fonts) or should I switch to #ubuntu-devel? #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-01 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/canonical-releases-new-linux-kernel-update-for-ubuntu-14-04-lts-488240.shtml <lotuspsychje> bored video lol <lotuspsychje> and lazy cpu * daftykins facepalms at #ubuntu <lotuspsychje> lol * lotuspsychje also has a pc <daftykins> :D * ObrienDave waves to the crazy people ;P <wileee> 1 bazinga for ObrienDave <ObrienDave> OMG seriously? ROFL <wileee> heh, I did'nt know what to say <ObrienDave> i almost answered, a brain ;P <wileee> lol, a lot of key links there realy and a search engine <ObrienDave> go figure <wileee> another !00F day here <wileee> roasting hot <ObrienDave> cool off the dingleberry, please ;p <ObrienDave> ya THINK???? ;P <ObrienDave> to make people ask silly questions, works, didn't it? ;P <wileee> yeah <wileee> like some that come here they want it spoon fed <ObrienDave> no one does research anymore? <wileee> seems that way, I always wonder the age <wileee> basic developmental stuff, lol <ObrienDave> in his case, 8 ;P <wileee> ;) <ObrienDave> i was being kind. 6 ;D <wileee> heh <lordievader> Good morning. <ObrienDave> already waved at you ;P <lordievader> Ahh, can I nog get two waves? * ObrienDave waves again ;P <lordievader> Horaay <ObrienDave> \o/ <lordievader> So, how are you doing, ObrienDave? <ObrienDave> good, thanks. and you? <lordievader> I need coffee... <ObrienDave> i need sleep LOL <cfhowlett> http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8xcgiNKGj1rzfyu6o1_r1_500.gif <ObrienDave> lol <ObrienDave> you having fun in #U? ;P <ObrienDave> sleep needed. *waves* * daftykins shakes his head <lordievader> Is there a party in #ubuntu? <lordievader> :P <OerHeks> saturday madness, as usual <OerHeks> drunk & bored, lets join #ubuntu * lordievader grabs popcorn and joins #ubuntu <OerHeks> popcorntime \0/ <OerHeks> ow wait, those are illegal movies man <OerHeks> .. and i have about 150 dvd's ready to watch... <daftykins> XD <daftykins> didnt that thing get shut down? <OerHeks> i have no idea, maybe it is .. hosting that app <OerHeks> anyway, i have matrix and matrix reladed and Mao's last dance ready <OerHeks> reloaded* <daftykins> :D <daftykins> ah EriC^^ just in time <EriC^^> hi daftykins! <daftykins> how do? :) <EriC^^> good, you? <daftykins> yes thanks, other than the weekend rabble in #ubuntu ;) <daftykins> we just had some guy come in #ubuntu-uk with a misconfigured GRUB problem, as in he boots to grub rescue <daftykins> seems he can't boot external media and the system has a BIOS password so he can't sort it out <daftykins> :D <daftykins> are you free for me to direct him your way? <EriC^^> oh, yeah sure <daftykins> cool :) the user is 'Hanra' i'll get 'im to join #ubuntu main <EriC^^> ok <daftykins> time for breakfast 8D <EriC^^> have a good one <daftykins> oh i'm taking my laptop down there XD <EriC^^> awesome <daftykins> so much tinfoil hat stuff going about online about Windows 10's settings at the moment <daftykins> gotta wonder what to believe :) <EriC^^> yeah, i was reading an article someone posted <daftykins> of course we always get these ones when a new OS comes out <EriC^^> yeah, that's true <daftykins> i wonder if Hanra has mentioned having over 100 boot devices in his boot menu, yet? <daftykins> that one flummoxed me <cfhowlett> who, what? Is that even possible/ <daftykins> e.g. ubuntu, HDD a bunch of times, then the Windows boot manager at the end :D <daftykins> haha yeah that's what i wondered <OerHeks> i luv windows updates <daftykins> i don't think that's truly what has happened here <daftykins> i've got xubuntu installed beside the test machine i was using with win10 <daftykins> it's survived through over 10 total build reinstalls and left GRUB alone <cfhowlett> if people would just WAIT and stop doing Zero Day installs, a lot of issues would be figured out already. <daftykins> anecdotal evidence though, granted <OerHeks> i heard this yesterday too, might be true : [16:00:08] <Hanra> Eric^^ I dual boot Windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 on this laptop. Recent windows update happened <OerHeks> 8.1 <daftykins> OerHeks: heard of an update breaking things? <OerHeks> jups, uefi. <daftykins> o0 <daftykins> i swear we're getting way more foreigners than usual <daftykins> trying to speak non-english in #u i mean <cfhowlett> more international is good <OerHeks> si <OerHeks> maybe we should start a hangout, non english spoken only <daftykins> :( <daftykins> i'd have to crack out my poor school level German <OerHeks> my chinese is as terrible as my english <EriC^^> Hanra --> 1 for the x-files <EriC^^> i dont see how a windows update is going to do all that <daftykins> nah, i don't think it was to blame <EriC^^> :D <daftykins> but it's cool to hate after all <daftykins> he says he got the machine from a friends father who is selling old laptops with Linux on, for some reason with BIOS passwords set too <daftykins> and he can't contact the guy <daftykins> maybe it's just stolen :) <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> haha <daftykins> makes you wonder though, the seriously messy states of systems some people are content to run <daftykins> it must be a gamble switching it on every day Â¬_Â¬ <OerHeks> zillion vulnerable androids :-D <EriC^^> :D <daftykins> the way he says 111 boot entries though, just wat <EriC^^> bungee jump, sky dive, or turn my pc on.. <EriC^^> hmm <EriC^^> turns pc on, pc turns into terminator, burns apartment, .. <daftykins> bad PC <daftykins> maybe that was also in win10's license agreement <daftykins> "right for Microsoft to turn your computer into a terminator" <EriC^^> :D <EriC^^> haha <OerHeks> daftykins, see, another broken win8 boot ... <daftykins> hrmm <daftykins> interesting indeed! <OerHeks> i think defender used some tool to clean uefi from unwanted parasites.. <daftykins> hehe <OerHeks> or.. the upgrade to 10 tool that preloads, is the attacker.. <OerHeks> ask them, if they hit yes to preload to 10 <OerHeks> or generate a list with last win8 updates... <OerHeks> that would be handy too, to compare with that hanra <daftykins> mmm, definitely seems suspect to come at a time so close to win10 release <daftykins> though we'll be seeing a lot more of it if it is 10, since 10 is getting released in waves <daftykins> some people, never satisfied ;) <daftykins> this guest talking about firefox blocking SSLv3 router pages sounds interesting <OerHeks> old certificates on a router, known issue. <OerHeks> old router needs update, or allow once <daftykins> i haven't seen a page you couldn't bypass warnings on before, yeah <daftykins> that guest makes it out as if it's not even possible anymore <daftykins> tum te tum <OerHeks> so .. Hanra is disassembling a laptop due to a windows 8 update .. <daftykins> EriC^^: he's kinda quitting on the hardware part :P <daftykins> turning into one of those 'give me a single command to fix it all' types :< <OerHeks> if we knew, what update does this .. <EriC^^> yeah, he's pretty close to getting it fixed <EriC^^> i dont want to say anything and have him screw his laptop up cause of what i said though <EriC^^> but he's almost there.. shame he's quitting <OerHeks> indeed, just removal of the battery & hold power should be enough.. <EriC^^> i think he can put jumpers together too <EriC^^> i remember lotus saying something about software that resets the bios but i couldn't find it online once <OerHeks> it is in the bios itself <daftykins> hrmm <EriC^^> heh cgsecurity has the software http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd <EriC^^> O.o <daftykins> hrmm <daftykins> could well be dragons with that <EriC^^> you mean it most likely won't work? <EriC^^> ( not familiar with the expression ) <daftykins> just strikes me as dangerous <daftykins> 'here be dragons!' <EriC^^> oh ok <EriC^^> cool :D <daftykins> i think he's carrying on with the surgery approach though <JanC> PC BIOSs haven't used CMOS to store the password for over 20 years or so <ObrienDave> only if you use BIOS/administrator setup passwords <JanC> there simply is no CMOS on the motherboard of anything recent <JanC> "recent" <ObrienDave> not what you mean by CMOS, no. but since CMOS means Ceramic Multi-Oxide Substrate, most chips are CMOS designed ;P <ObrienDave> ruh roh, *makes popcorn* this is going to get good ;P <OerHeks> zaturday nightz <OerHeks> i told one that his netbook is a nice door-stopper :-D <ObrienDave> y'all have waaaaaay more patience than i ;P <daftykins> XD <daftykins> i thought CMOS was complimentary metal-oxide semiconductor o0 <ObrienDave> could be, i'm older ;P <ObrienDave> senility ;P <OerHeks> complex metal Obrien's solution <ObrienDave> i like that one :) <OerHeks> still wonder what windows update ruins the bootloader <ObrienDave> dunno, dont seee anything newer than a year <OerHeks> 32 gb of swap ... <ObrienDave> wow, i would love to have that much ram LOL <OerHeks> hybernate, isn't that something like a screensaver ? <ObrienDave> naw, it's for impatient people that can't do a proper shut down LOL <OerHeks> if one does not know about HT, one does not need HT * famous quote by OerHeks <daftykins> who's got that swap? <ObrienDave> gustav__ something ;P <daftykins> https://www.theakstons.co.uk/Ales/Old-Peculier/ <daftykins> that's the stuff <daftykins> :) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-02 <ObrienDave> i'm staying out of main channel tonight ;P <ObrienDave> not EVEN going to look ;P <ObrienDave> dang, i looked ;P <wileee> the freaks come out on saturday night <ObrienDave> dang! i had to look ;P <cfhowlett> @ what? <ObrienDave> at main channel. swore i was not going to ;P <ObrienDave> definitely staying out after my herpa derp LOL <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, you gotta stop smoking so much of the herbal derp <ObrienDave> not in 5 years, i swear ;P <wileee> ObrienDave, I checked with the local diocese, no hail ubuntu's needed. ;) <ObrienDave> rofl ;P <wileee> you've done your time, lots of leeway <ObrienDave> *bangs head on desk* there, i feel better ;P <wileee> lol <ObrienDave> i suppose in a back-handed, leftward sort of way, (rolls eyes) battery life could be considered backup *cough* ;P <ObrienDave> if you really want to stretch the point LOL <cfhowlett> I saw that too. Decided you had matters very well in hand, so no need for me to confuse the issue <wileee> heh, many come here and just don't know the lingo, it gets aggravating, it can make a simple say fdisk take forever and may be only the start of getting to the isssue. <wileee> issue* <ObrienDave> i blame google translate ;P <wileee> 10 min on you might pastebin this, not a fix but a huge hurdle for them <cfhowlett> no, you english suck ... <ObrienDave> ROFL ;P <ObrienDave> cfhowlett keeps me grounded ;P <wileee> yeah, the language barrier is s tough one, cultural as well, use of words and meaning. europe and the west as a side ways example have a marriage model based on love generally, while huge parts have something way different. <ObrienDave> wileee, yes, but i would gladly step them through installing pastebin rather that them telling me, no, you're wrong because some archaic blog told them otherwise :) <wileee> Oh yeah, that is in the how to ask smart questions anyone makes, as a barrier, and guessed fixes, and the fixation on both. ;) <wileee> There is nobody here I don't like, however I don't support passive aggressive communication, it is a developmental issue. We all use subtle communication but there is a place and time. <ObrienDave> wow, really weird. my screen went wonky <ObrienDave> OMG troll night? ;P <cfhowlett> 99.9% sure <ObrienDave> add a few 9s to that ;P <ObrienDave> *face palms* why do i try? <cfhowlett> cuz you're a wizard, Harry! <ObrienDave> i give up, all your bud ;P <ObrienDave> *yours <cfhowlett> oh, you've gone and done it now ... <ObrienDave> OMG i think i'll have a smoke ;P <ObrienDave> and another beer ;P <ObrienDave> two ;P * wileee blows out a huge cloud of smoke and coughs <ObrienDave> i wish i could ;P <ObrienDave> sometimes ;P <wileee> oh wow man look at the colors ;) <ObrienDave> spacey, dude ;P <lordievader> Good morning. <ObrienDave> *waves* * lordievader waves back <lordievader> ObrienDave: "It makes use of a certain piece of software, so that is a dependency" :P <ObrienDave> *slaps head* oh yea, right ;P <lordievader> Altough, I searched for his thing. Someone else said MS dropped Alsa support... <ObrienDave> no clue here <ObrienDave> WHY oh WHY do i get involved? ;P <lordievader> Obviously has no clue of what he is doing ;) <ObrienDave> i'm staying out of it ;P <lordievader> Yeah, right ;) <ObrienDave> ok, so i lie a LOT ;P <lotuspsychje> good noon to all <ObrienDave> noon? omg 4 am here <lotuspsychje> :p <OerHeks> oh boy random questions for k1l <ObrienDave> LOL he can have fun with that ;P <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> wileee: hellow :p <wileee> morning, err here, <daftykins> https://i.imgur.com/Hz0hQdo.jpg <daftykins> :D <Bashing-om> daftykins: ^^ Good one, and is apt (in my estimation of Windows) / LOL . <daftykins> ;) <lordievader> Windows can do that too :P <daftykins> i'm typing from Windows \o/ <OerHeks> i'm typing from a glass desk <OerHeks> \o/ <daftykins> :o <daftykins> those things get dusty <OerHeks> jups, on the other side it is cleaner than wood <OerHeks> double glass https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/pczooi.JPG <daftykins> ooh a bit of surgery <wileee> mmmm steamed hardware <OerHeks> socket 775 .. not sure what cpu, but i am happy with that geforce 7600GT fanless <Bashing-om> Just caution with them loose nuts in the upper left . <OerHeks> yeah, i see those connector screws are not secure, i have a special 6 mm socket wrench for that <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Question : Given 'df -h ' output "/dev/sdb1 96M 96M 0 100% /boot/efi" // Is this something that could/should be handled by the boot manager ? <daftykins> :D <daftykins> ouch a 100MB EFI is tiny <Bashing-om> daftykins: yeah , tiny, no experience in EFI, may as well get my feet wet . Make matters deeper, dual booting windows, and Windows has the boot partition .// The things I step into ! <daftykins> if Windows was just a ~200MB boot and then the C:, that must be a legacy install - so incompatible? <Bashing-om> daftykins: Not as bad as feared, as the dual booting per 'gdisk' are on seperated drives. Go do homework, see what I can do , Many many problems in this install . Make up my mind what to tackle 1st. <daftykins> ah ok :) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-03 <tintedwindows> hey "wafflejock" "phunyguy" it's rustic_plague <tintedwindows> what up <wafflejock> tintedwindows, not much working on brushing up a proposal using xmind for making some images/graphs, how ya doin? <phunyguy> I don't know who that was :( <lordievader> Good morning. <daftykins> good afternoon all o/ <OerHeks> hi daftykins <EriC^^> afternono daftykins <EriC^^> *afternoon <daftykins> ah a fine sunny-after-rain day, the cat has just walked right past her water bowl and out the flap... in order to lick rain water from objects outside <EriC^^> nice <EriC^^> there's a nice cat who gave birth recently, her kid was climbing up my tire i guess and popping out under the fenders <EriC^^> looked so funny <daftykins> hehehe <daftykins> that'd be a good snap <EriC^^> yeah <daftykins> another day, another shake of the head <EriC^^> haha <EriC^^> this guy is writing a thesis about wiping a hdd <daftykins> i'm gonna hurt onla in a bit if we keep hearing everything <daftykins> :P <daftykins> looks like they're revolting against me :) <TJ-> Why are support engineers so obtuse sometimes!? <daftykins> uh oh, the ones about the mPCIE boot again? <OerHeks> hey guys <OerHeks> windows boot problem solver ?? http://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/ <OerHeks> an i think this is handy too http://itsfoss.com/access-uefi-settings-windows-10/ <TJ-> No, they've got the message :) <TJ-> I've had a tower network switchable CDU that controls power to one of the data cabinets fail over the weekend, which controls 32 outlets, so I'm scrambling to get it fixed/replaced. I've done some detailed analysis of the faulty Power Control PCB using a logic analyser and reported the results to the manufacturer's support engineer... who then suggests I buy a replacement network interface/management engine PCB ... which works fine! I sent an acerbic reply <TJ-> asking what good replacing the working PCB would do <daftykins> heh <TJ-> Grrrr, beaten by OerHeks ! <daftykins> :D <OerHeks> minions ... they are comming! http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/03/giant-inflatable-minion-gets-loose-causes-traffic-jam-in-ireland <daftykins> :> #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-04 <lordievader> Good morning. <EriC^^> morning <lordievader> Hey EriC^^ <EriC^^> how's it going? <lordievader> Still a bit sleepy, hope coffee will fix that. How are you doing? <TJ-> I know the feeling :) <EriC^^> im good <ObrienDave> waves <EriC^^> hey ObrienDave <ObrienDave> how's it going, all? <TJ-> I've been suffering the horrors of DOS, with 1 floppy drive and swapping between 2 diskettes... how did we ever get anything done like that? <ObrienDave> slowly ;P <EriC^^> i rolled my ankle yesterday, it's the size of a tennis ball :> <TJ-> Good reason for a lie-in <ObrienDave> geez louise, always has to be one jerk in the room <lordievader> EriC^^: :) <lordievader> Though the ankle thing is less. <lordievader> ObrienDave: o/ <lordievader> Hey TJ-, how are you? <TJ-> Ready for bed, tired, fed-up with incompetent engineers :) <ObrienDave> lordievader, o/ <lordievader> TJ-: Isn't that your default state? <TJ-> Fortunately no else I'd be a serial killer :D <lordievader> Hehe <TJ-> Got up early especially to test a new firmware for the Super Talent Core Store Plus pcie SSD, for the Asmedia 106x controller that has a BIOS hang at boot problem. That didn't fix anything <lordievader> Darn, those are the most annoying. <TJ-> Yeah, you'd think they'd provide a debug image that writes out what it is doing so we could at least narrow down where the fault is <ObrienDave> we need an OP in #u <lordievader> #ubuntu doesn't have an op? That is a channel who needs it the most... <TJ-> And on top of that ... I've had a tower network switch-able Server Technology CDU that controls power to one of the data cabinets fail over the weekend, which controls 32 outlets, so I'm scrambling to get it fixed/replaced. I've done some detailed analysis of the faulty Power Control PCB using a logic analyser and reported the results to the manufacturer's support engineer... who then suggests I buy a replacement network interface/management engine PCB ... <TJ-> which works fine! I sent an acerbic reply asking what good replacing the working PCB would do <TJ-> Fancy swapping my life for yours? :) <lordievader> Ahem... How do I put this politely... No. <lordievader> :P <lordievader> I fixed ipv6 support in a print registration program yesterday. A couple of lines was all it took :D <TJ-> Ahhhh, the good life - I can only dream of having access to the source code :) <lordievader> ObrienDave: nice one ;) <lordievader> Hihi, ObrienDave is on an insulting tour... reminds me of HHGTG. <ObrienDave> yea, sorry, i can't understand why someone would respond to someone with an obviously asinine nick like that. <lordievader> ;) <lordievader> You did get him to change his nick :) <ObrienDave> step one ;P <wileee> tra la la boom dee ah <wileee> exactly, just hiding <ObrienDave> the teacher passed away, <ObrienDave> there is no school today <ObrienDave> tra la la boom dee ah <ObrienDave> ;P <wileee> rofl <ObrienDave> oh boy, talk about 3rd grade humor. sheesh ;P <wileee> I'm not even geeked, see this is what going straight does for yah <ObrienDave> yea, sometime i wish i had not gone straight 10 years ago ;P <wileee> just momentarily for the day here <ObrienDave> moar beer ;P <wileee> I've switched to the vapor nicotine for other addictions treatment, I feel so cool "it's what all the cool people are doing" said by a user failing at source code installs <wileee> earlier <wileee> I asked them why are you installing source code, this would be in my forum if I was a member of any <daftykins> EriC^^: o/ <EriC^^> o/ <daftykins> 10 mins until the xbox event at gamescom in Germany :O <EriC^^> what event? <daftykins> like, Microsoft's press briefing <daftykins> showing upcoming games etc <daftykins> argh 7 mins left <daftykins> i'm gonna get down the coffee shop first :D <EriC^^> oh ok <EriC^^> cool :D <daftykins> here's an example of the future, windows 10 on my laptop streaming the xbox one <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hijnaaz755vwgk/IMG_20150803_200926.jpg?dl=0 <daftykins> now i can see game patches wherever i am! <EriC^^> nice <daftykins> hate to break it to skinux, but his pen testing career isn't off to a great start since he can't install the software <daftykins> :> <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> :D <daftykins> OerHeks: :D <OerHeks> uh oh, am i banned? <cfhowlett> !phrasing! <EriC^^> i'll probably download win10 today <daftykins> ah-har <daftykins> using their handy downloader? <EriC^^> yeah <EriC^^> did you download the .iso? <daftykins> yep, i grabbed the UK flavour of Pro 64-bit for my boxes :) <cfhowlett> does it even provide an .iso? I thought it just ran a hot update <EriC^^> both <daftykins> cfhowlett: well WU provides it, but for those in the know it makes more sense to just download it <EriC^^> do you just make a fat32 and copy the files there? <daftykins> if your hardware is EFI capable, yep <EriC^^> cool <daftykins> the program can make the flash drive for you if you want though <EriC^^> oh <daftykins> but i wanted the ISO so i can do several methods <EriC^^> yeah <daftykins> i usually wipe my drive then use diskpart to make the partition active, then use bootsect /nt60 X: to write the boot image - before pasting the files <daftykins> but i'm an awkward bugger... <EriC^^> i think i'll try that <EriC^^> it'll be a fun experience can't wait <EriC^^> i'm especially excited about it breaking grub <daftykins> lol <daftykins> it'll be interesting <EriC^^> yeah <EriC^^> i think win10 is going to rock though <EriC^^> looked awesome in the screenshots <daftykins> it's definitely got a lot of things you need to turn off mind <EriC^^> win8 has sucked for me, didn't try win8.1 <daftykins> you didn't miss much :) <EriC^^> since installing ubuntu i've maybe used windows for an hour tops <daftykins> i regretted ever touching any form of 8 <daftykins> like default feature allows WU to upload to other people online, stealing your bandwidth <EriC^^> win8 sucked, win98se is my favorite os probably <daftykins> go go vxd's! <cfhowlett> still on 7 here. <EriC^^> i missed 7 <EriC^^> never used it, had vista and it was pretty slow <EriC^^> then i got this laptop with win8 <cfhowlett> I never had vista... <EriC^^> it's pretty slow and hangs a lot <daftykins> mmm Vista was terrible on resources, only had it for clients or peoples systems i had to fix <EriC^^> when i think vista, i remember that blue/green turning thingy <EriC^^> the busy prompt <daftykins> 10 seems even lighter than 7 <EriC^^> cool <daftykins> but yeah plenty of tinfoiler articles in the news <EriC^^> it's fud i think <EriC^^> it's just technology and stuff, advertising etc. <EriC^^> i think it kind of sucks that it's there by default though <EriC^^> i mean turned on by default <daftykins> yeah definitely not ideal <daftykins> there's way too much to turn off <daftykins> i should find a way to automate it so i don't have to take days on clean installs :> <daftykins> though i'm in no hurry to have it in for any clients yet, too early <EriC^^> yeah :D <OerHeks> i am sure someone is writing windows-10-tweak now <daftykins> yeah :> <daftykins> hrmm i woke up to my laptop having hibernated actually, bit confused <daftykins> i've got all the silly power management off, but still it went off <daftykins> total mystery <daftykins> not as much of a mystery as this user in #ubuntu though <daftykins> ;] <cfhowlett> lol <daftykins> what an absolute... <cfhowlett> man this one HAS to be reposted on "tales from tech support" <daftykins> :) <daftykins> that a site? <cfhowlett> subreddit <daftykins> ah <cfhowlett> so is it official then? no wifi icon when the usb isn't plugged in? <daftykins> he's in a net cafe then with wired plugged in <daftykins> it's probably just that the icon looks like the wired ethernet one whilst that's in, dunno with this guy <cfhowlett> ahhhhhhhhhh, right <daftykins> still running 12.04 too :/ <TJ-> Expect some major Wiley headaches over the next week, if people try to upgrade packages. GCC 5.0 compiler suite and libraries were just deployed and the archive state going to be inconsistent whilst broken packages catch up <TJ-> Recommendation is to *not* do any package upgrades for the next week or so. <daftykins> ahhar, <daftykins> ah well i'll use the standard approach of "go to #ubuntu+1 " :D <OerHeks> LoL, Einstein and Hawking outscored by 12 year old girl from Essex <daftykins> wat <OerHeks> http://www.rt.com/uk/311563-girl-12-mensa-iq/ <daftykins> wow, gypsy too <daftykins> but then my mate is from gypsy family and is doing a nuclear physics PhD <OerHeks> oh sure, i believe some boy or girl will change the linux kernel by some bits and make it 2x faster <wileee> heh, I like the young man still less than 20, who built his own reactor, and has an excellent design for safe nuclear power. <wileee> built at 14 years old I believe <daftykins> wileee: apologies for yesterday or whenever it was by the way, i didn't mean to be awkward :) <wileee> daftykins, Sorry here as well I do go overboard, my apology to everyone. ;) <daftykins> :) <wileee> We all want to help, I'm certainly limited as a armchair user, so try to keep out of the way of real help. <OerHeks> At least we are trying, guys <wileee> I'm just to lazy to remember all the basic search and confirm commands from the cli, I know the basic structure, just not pro in the industry, or a student. Thinking of doing a Masters in this area if I can get a free ride. <OerHeks> I'm just lazy <daftykins> :D <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3m9han66px7uz92/AABUyEcXPt3HUlFyq7DiYdwWa?dl=0 <daftykins> hrmm new tire on <OerHeks> !cookie | daftykins <ubot5> daftykins: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! <daftykins> XD <daftykins> i've recently wondered if one can feed ubottu with a cookie for so many years of faithful factoid service <Bashing-om> ^ Hummm.... Try it and see ?? <daftykins> why not :D <wileee> heh, my favorite and only transportation. <OerHeks> i'm 47 and it is still my only way of transportation. <OerHeks> i'm riding my 26th bicycle now #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-05 <OerHeks> why .. does a chicken cross the internet .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dst_ra-AgH0 <wileee> funny fozziebear, heh, saw it before loosing conection <wileee> geez moron user espousing garbage <wafflejock> wileee, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3133/800.716.0984-bart-simpson.jpg good thing no one has invented an RPC strangulation bot <wileee> heh <cfhowlett> http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bd/ce/ce/bdceceb6d7d73fa9af35f72556961920.jpg <wileee> lol <wafflejock> hah nice <cfhowlett> working of the Force Choke bot now ... <tintedwindows> dos anyone play Illarion here? <tintedwindows> or quake 2? <lordievader> Good morning. <tintedwindows> blah <ObrienDave> blah blah blah <EriC^^> hey TJ- <EriC^^> i just installed win10 <EriC^^> it's running super hot though fan is on full speed <TJ-> Was it a joy ? <EriC^^> well not really, it is supposed to pick up the key from the bios, it asked for it during the install and it wouldn't accept it <EriC^^> it looks decent enough though, but i can't use it, the fan turns on all the way and temps are 90+ <TJ-> Does the PC use non-standard interfaces to the thermal monitor and fan control? If so, the OS likely requires system/mobo specific driver intelligence <EriC^^> i think it was actually heating up <EriC^^> not just the fan, cause i got into ubuntu and the temps were 90+ then it started coolign down and fans turned off <TJ-> That sounds like an ACPI issue, with the CPU not being put into temporary sleep C3 mode when idle <EriC^^> cpu usage is normal though in task manager, but it said the disk usage was 99% even though there wasn't much below <TJ-> I was about about to say run powertop on it... silly me, it's Windows :D <EriC^^> :D <TJ-> I'd think the requirement is for the mobo/system specific drivers... maybe there are some for Win 8.x or even win 7 that might work <TJ-> I know AMD used to provide their own chipset specific packages too, that's another possibility <EriC^^> i see <wileee> upgraded to W10 couple of days ago runs cool and well. <TJ-> It certainly sounds like the CPU isn't going into C3 sleep when idle <EriC^^> hp site says it should upgrade to win10 fine *shrug* <TJ-> It could also be that it isn't frequency-scaling too <EriC^^> it started during the install TJ- , in case that matters <EriC^^> half way through the install the fan went bazerk and stayed that way <wileee> time for water cooling, heh <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> it's an i7 btw <TJ-> EriC^^: According to superuser.com the system might have this tool: "powercfg -energy" <EriC^^> bought in 2014 <wileee> I read earlier that setting up a water cooler is half way between running linux and speaking klingon <TJ-> See https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc748940%28v=ws.10%29.aspx <TJ-> Water coolers are fine if there are no leaks... I'd rather use mineral oil in it though <wileee> I was just curious how it's done, to much slack time here <EriC^^> :D <EriC^^> ill brb <TJ-> wileee: coolers are great in principle but the problem is often the bulkiness of the fittings and pipework. For many mobos and cases there isn't a lot of room to begin with and the radius of turns of the pipes makes for difficulties in finding a comfortable fit <EriC^^_> hey TJ- <EriC^^_> i was setting up the tethering thing for the internet <EriC^^> hi TJ- i had to boot into ubuntu, temps were reaching 102'c <TJ-> ouch <EriC^^> TJ-: http://explosive.bshellz.net/energy-report.html <EriC^^> that's the report the command gave <EriC^^> it mentions some acpi and driver errors <EriC^^> i really like win10, this sucks <EriC^^> could it be i need to download the amd graphics driver? <EriC^^> hey daftykins <daftykins> o/ <daftykins> greetings <EriC^^> o/ <EriC^^> did you get win10 activated? <daftykins> yeah it was fine when i powered on on the 30th, their activation servers were just getting hammered on release day :D <EriC^^> oh ok cool <EriC^^> i installed it, but it didn't accept my key <wileee> mine was a couple days later with no key issues <daftykins> EriC^^: which key was that? <EriC^^> i read that you have to upgrade for it to work <daftykins> you have to do an upgrade atop 7 or 8 to convert your existing sadly <EriC^^> the key i pulled out from the bios for win8 <daftykins> ah yes that won't go in, you'll have to install 8 then upgrade <EriC^^> there's a rumor that if you upgrade you can then fresh install, dunno though <daftykins> yep i did clean installs immediately after <EriC^^> anyways it was overheating like crazy, temps at 100'c <daftykins> works a treat :) just skip the key entry pages and it works out fine <daftykins> o0 CPU? <wileee> you can with a double install and the correct key, looks like an upgrade, or in W7 and 8 you could do a config tweak <OerHeks> like this EriC^^ ? http://imgur.com/gallery/PbiZ6ok <OerHeks> :-D <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> i tried setting the amd driver to battery saving, it lowered the temps to 80-90 <EriC^^> TJ- had me run a command for energy it gave this report http://explosive.bshellz.net/energy-report.html <EriC^^> most of them went away after upgrading drivers except for the last 3 or so <wileee> EriC^^, just as a reference, http://winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-128512 <EriC^^> anyways i reinstalled win8 cause you can't customize it without activating it and stuff so i'll try upgrading this time <TJ-> EriC^^: Impressive! "Average Utilization (%) 4572646.00" <EriC^^> lol <wileee> I did use a W10 iso for my upgrade, had to do some cleanup to get there, downloaded it while scrubbing the os <TJ-> I found out today from Nvidia engineers that the typical operating temperature at idle for the Quadro NVS420 is 45C ... it's been running at 70C+ for a while and needing manual fan-control intervention. <EriC^^> learned some dos commands today :> <daftykins> not just bad TIM or blocked fans? <TJ-> So the workbench now has the RasPi+LCD+RF signal detector, laptop + mini-PCIe SSD testbed, the PCBs out of the failed CDU, the NVS420 with heatsink stripped off ... anyone want to take on some of my projects!? <TJ-> daftykins: No... I'd previously replaced the thermal pastes with no improvement. The problem I had was Nvidia didn't publish the typical/max operating temps so I had to chase them down with their engineers <TJ-> I've got some copper shims arriving tomorrow, which should help. The heatsinks don't have great mating with the heat sources, especially for the RAM ICs <OerHeks> pom pom pom #ubuntu-discuss 2015-08-06 <wileee> oh yes, removing grub is always a great idea <wileee> heh <TJ-> Yes, it is, I do it routinely. Only one install needs to control the boot-loader, else there are all sorts of problems with the OSs each trying to rewrite it <wileee> matter of personal use, never had a problem with usually 3 linux install same HD <JanC> grub should be able to manage that itself instead :) <wileee> a new person, not so good, not criticizing any help just that decision <TJ-> If you have custom config for grub, then you'd have to replicate it across all the OSes, and any changes in those OS grub policies could causes issues <wileee> Actually a new user may be better, I just load the mbr from the os that needs grub at the moment, like a kernel update <wileee> no custom here is all <TJ-> I'd hate to have multiple OSs trying to control grub, it'd make my systems unbootable <daftykins> i have a machine with lightning-fried USB and i no longer own a PS/2 keyboard, i can't interact with the boot menus at all 8D <wileee> probably the only place besides helping I'm ocd enough tyo not have issues, heh, not been diagnosed after much time spent with a clinical psych. ;) <wileee> I just wondered if they might be gpt, efi...etc, even with just arch <JanC> daftykins: you can get truckloads full of PS/2 keyboards for free ;) <daftykins> hahaha <TJ-> Or get the soldering iron out and fix that USB! <daftykins> nah, power is there but the controllers got murdered <JanC> there are also PS/2 <-> converters ;) <JanC> PS/2 <-> USB <daftykins> oh i'm aware, worked in this industry for quite some time <daftykins> but it's an old core 2 quad build so besides be used as a victim for windows 10 testing a while back it doesn't do much <JanC> heh, that's still quite useful hardware <daftykins> my own desktop is already that, so i don't need two :> <tintedwindows> does anybody have a good reference where i can learn how to see all the open ports on my comp? <cfhowlett> wafflejock: Pulp Fiction mode required: chill the frack <cfhowlett> tintedwindows, run !ports in the #ubuntu <ObrienDave> *waves* <EriC^^> hey ObrienDave <ObrienDave> having fun in #U? ;P <EriC^^> yeah :D <ObrienDave> LOL <lordievader> Good morning. <ObrienDave> o/ <lordievader> Hey ObrienDave, how are you doing? <ObrienDave> good lordievader, and you? <lordievader> Waking up, making coffee. <ObrienDave> getting ready for bed. having beer ;P <ObrienDave> oops, had beer ;P <lordievader> You can allways have another ;) <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, a user admonished me for - wait for it - being snarky! <ObrienDave> don't have any more :( <ObrienDave> you????? heaven forbid ;P <cfhowlett> I know, right? Incredible. <ObrienDave> what's the world coming to.... ;P <tintedwindows> pretty soon, theyll have us on no sleep and redbull energy drinks <ObrienDave> was it last night when someone got mad at me for something someone else said? <ObrienDave> night before? LOL <tintedwindows> isnt that every nigt <lordievader> lol <ObrienDave> tintedwindows, seems like it LOL <tintedwindows> lol <ObrienDave> i think cfhowlett and i trade places every night LMAO <cfhowlett> hey if no one complains, you're doing it wrong. <ObrienDave> ^5 <ObrienDave> i have enough trouble in my life. getting kick/baned from #U
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