#ubuntu-tv 2012-02-02 <JanC> Saviq: did you hear anything if somebody could bring an Ubuntu TV system to demo at FOSDEM? <Saviq> JanC, let me try and get some info <JanC> Saviq: I guess it's possible to run it on some regular hardware too? (I haven't had time to really look into it, so I don't know what hardware is expected, etc.) <Saviq> JanC, anything with OpenGL should be fine <JanC> well, my old EEE 900 does OpenGL, but it can't play hi-res videos ;) <Saviq> JanC, well, hi-res videos is another thing <Saviq> we don't have hw accel yet <Saviq> JanC, I'm afraid we don't have anyone going, sorry <Saviq> too much other stuff to do #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-05 <Canyon_> hi <Canyon_> i want to record with sopcast <Canyon_> in ubuntu <Canyon_> in windows there is a record button, but in ubuntu there isn't #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-06 <mhall119> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/were-going-to-be-building-awesome-things-ubuntu-tv-interview-with-canonicals-will-cooke/ #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-07 <ap0calypse> what happen <ap0calypse> huh <afspear> is 12.04 a good ubuntu version to test ubuntu tv? #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-11 <tgm4883> So is it bad news that https://code.launchpad.net/~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk hasn't been updated since December? Or is development happening somewhere else? <MrChrisDruif> tgm4883; did you read the mergeplan on the wiki <MrChrisDruif> ? <MrChrisDruif> What is that /~s-team page? <MrChrisDruif> Name Status Last Modified Last Commit <MrChrisDruif> lp:~ubuntu-tv/+junk/Damian Development 2012-02-08 This branch has not been pushed to yet. <MrChrisDruif> tgm4883; https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv <tgm4883> MrChrisDruif, Nope, I headed straight to the above link from the wiki <tgm4883> somehow I missed the mergeplan <MrChrisDruif> Doesn't the wiki link to the link I posted just now? <MrChrisDruif> And there isn't an indication that the page exists on the main page, but it's here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/MergePlan <MrChrisDruif> Latest update of that page was 4 days ago <tgm4883> MrChrisDruif, I came from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing <tgm4883> I don't see anything linking to what you listed <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; ^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing??? <MrChrisDruif> Like I said, there is no linking to that page afaik <tgm4883> MrChrisDruif, and that contributing page is linked to from http://www.ubuntu.com/tv/contributors <MrChrisDruif> I'm subscribed to all wiki changes to UbuntuTV and beyond...so I got it in the mail <tgm4883> MrChrisDruif, ok, so where is this mergeplan? <MrChrisDruif> tgm4883; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/MergePlan <MrChrisDruif> tgm4883; Also: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntutv <tgm4883> That doesn't seem to be linked from anywhere <tgm4883> *the mergeplan* <MrChrisDruif> That's what *I* said <tgm4883> yea <tgm4883> so the contributing page should link to the ubuntutv code page, rather than the s-team page <MrChrisDruif> I think to the latest link I send <MrChrisDruif> But again, I'm not sure about which link to follow anymore O_O * tgm4883 shrugs <tgm4883> guess we need the mergeplan to finish <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; if you got time, please share your knowledge with us. It's very unclear which links you'd need to follow to contribute to this project. You can read it all in the scrollback <AlanBell> erm, ok * AlanBell has not looked in this channel for some time <MrChrisDruif> I would've asked popey but he isn't around...didn't check other channels though <AlanBell> I am not sure at all what the current plan is for contributing to ubuntu-tv <AlanBell> "be an OEM" appears to be the primary one <MrChrisDruif> Hehehe <MrChrisDruif> Sleep well everyone #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-13 <Tirean> Hi guys <Tirean> I was wondering what Ubuntu TV is exactly and by what means it is installed <ogra_> Tirean, i would check the links from the channel topic :) <tgm4883> Is there somewhere I can follow the development of the special lenses for Ubuntu TV (eg, EPG, preview mode, etc) #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-14 <AlanBell> rj_: ask in the channel, don't be shy <rj_> ok alan... <rj_> hi everyone <rj_> rajesh here <rj_> very new here <rj_> just want to get some pointers to get started with ubuntutv <rj_> any docs..or starting point where i can concentrate on to start with <AlanBell> there are links in the topic <AlanBell> mostly you have to be a big TV manufacturer in the far east right now <AlanBell> I think once there is a hardware partner and there is a device to target things might be more open to contributions <AlanBell> I believe they are folding some of the demo code that was done into unity2d core <tgm4883> AlanBell, AFAIK, this will be something that you can enable from the desktop <tgm4883> at least, that was the last I heard <tgm4883> I think i've gone as far as I can with my scope, until EPG and preview mode get written <rj_> is this project under requirement gathering phase? #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-15 <Ultimoore> Hello everyone <Ultimoore> so how many here are like me (who are not part of the dev team) and want to help? <Kismac> anyone alive in here? <L-----D> O_O <Kismac> :) <Kismac> seems quite in hereâ¦. <L-----D> yeah, it seems <Kismac> i would of thought it be busy with the "tv" stuff <L-----D> since the project is not making any progress <Kismac> why so? <L-----D> I'm not sure, I'm not one of the dev <Kismac> is their a dev channel? <L-----D> this is, some of them hanging here, I believe <Kismac> awe, yea cause we are looking to move content to "tv" <L-----D> maybe ubuntu want to make sure there are buiness partener before jump into the tv market <Kismac> thats true, <L-----D> I'm also looking forward Tizen, since it also said to be a TV branch <Kismac> i like the in-car part <L-----D> but that's highly depends on car vendors <Kismac> that is well as true, but now a days anyone can interface into the car's system <L-----D> you can put a micro computer into the car, but that can totally replace the original system <L-----D> like you can't switch the 4wd/2wd mode, remember the seat setting, etc <Kismac> unless it was tightly integrated and trusted* #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-17 <alex-> Can it also record stuff? #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-19 <alex-> Can it also record stuff? #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-20 <akgraner> Hi all - Here's the video of Ubuntu TV Demo on ARM (Pandaboard) we did at Linaro Connect - I interviewed rsalveti about it. Enjoy :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpIFaAxyFGE&list=UUAl2MfCBjH5y0nIym0ujHfg&index=2&feature=plcp #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-21 <nemik> so is the android ubuntu thing planned to be an open source project? are there any timelines for even the alpha software to be released for testing? <mhall119> did everyone see Ubuntu TV running on a smartphone at the end of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0 ? #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-22 <RobinJ> Can anyone enlighten me a bit? What is Ubuntu TV? Is it a system that you can simply install on your laptop to stream television from the internet; Is it something that has to come preinstalled on a SmartTV (which I've never seen yet in my country); Is it something that you can install on a computer with a TV tuner card; ...? I don't really get the idea <L-----D> RobinJ, it is supposed to run on a SmartTV or SetBox, imo <RobinJ> in your opinion... what does that mean? can it run on all of those? <L-----D> RobinJ, the project is still at the begining stage, only some mockup Unity UI is released, so there is no hardware so far <RobinJ> lol <RobinJ> ok :p <RobinJ> i just wondered for what device it's made, as i've never seen a smarttv in my life :p <L-----D> SmartTV like Google TV <RobinJ> i dont know what that is either xD <RobinJ> as far as i know they're not generally sold in europe yet <L-----D> a SmartTV is just a TV shipped with arm/atom system, so you can run real system on it <L-----D> RobinJ, yeah, I blamed that for Google <RobinJ> lol <RobinJ> just one thing more... is ubuntu tv and ubuntu for android also developed by the community? or do those only get developed by canonical employees? <L-----D> I'm not sure about that <popey> RobinJ: hello! <RobinJ> hi <popey> Ubuntu TV is in the early stages of development <RobinJ> i've been told :p <popey> oh ok. <popey> any other questions? <RobinJ> nan not really :p no'one was able to answer my 2 questions :p <RobinJ> probably not general knowledge yet <popey> 13:02:57 < RobinJ> just one thing more... is ubuntu tv and ubuntu for android also developed by the community? or do those only get developed by canonical employees? <popey> that one? <popey> it was developed internally at canonical by developers who are part of the ubuntu community. there's not really a line between 'community' and 'canonical'. canonical people are part of the community too <popey> âº <RobinJ> ah xd <RobinJ> ok :p <RobinJ> and the other one? <RobinJ> <RobinJ> Can anyone enlighten me a bit? What is Ubuntu TV? Is it a system that you can simply install on your laptop to stream television from the internet; Is it something that has to come preinstalled on a SmartTV (which I've never seen yet in my country); Is it something that you can install on a computer with a TV tuner card; ...? I don't really get the idea <popey> Ok. so the idea is that you would be able to go to a shop and buy a TV with Ubuntu TV pre-installed <RobinJ> hmm, so i probably wont see them in my country yet <popey> the code we've made so far is out there so potentially you could install it on a desktop pc, yeah <popey> what country? <RobinJ> belgium <RobinJ> i've never seen a smarttv, google tv, apple tv, ... here <RobinJ> just normal tv's <RobinJ> we've got digital tv though it's not generally used yet, and we need a seperate box for that <RobinJ> which we plug in to the tv #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-23 <burli> Hi <burli> I have a question <burli> where do you get the EPG informations for Ubuntu-TV? <burli> I think about an EPG App for Ubuntu Tablet and Phone, but I have a problem to get legal and free data for germany <ogra_> i think the demo only used public BBC data <burli> and how it should work in the final version? * ogra_ has no idea :) i'm not coding it ... but i saw the demo <ogra_> and played with it <ogra_> and that had all free BBC channels in it and nothing more ... for germany you might be able to do the same with the Ã¶ffis :) <ogra_> by pulling it from their websites <ogra_> but i doubt you will find free data for private stations <burli> Ã¶ffis? are you from germany? ;) <ogra_> jup <burli> lol <burli> yeah. it's really annoying. fu** content mafia. <burli> ogra_, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/apps-fuer-ubuntu-tablet-und-ubuntu-phone/ <willcooke> the real product will download OTA, plus for regions without OTA there will be agreements with service providers #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-24 <Ibrahim7897> hi every one <popey> Hello! #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-26 <kapare> Hi, after doing sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d I have -> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libunity-core-4.0-dev : Depends: libunity-core-4.0-4 (= 4.28.0-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed <kapare> suggestion? <mrand> kapare: might try sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade to see if it would resolve the issue (the -s simulates, so won't actually perform the actions). Also synaptic / upgrade-manager may deal with it <kapare> mrand, thx I should have try this :O Will try this right away... <kapare> mrand, Are you having a lot of UI freeze with Ubuntu version? because it seem that after some time a go back to it and the UI is freeze and the only think I can do is to reset the board... <kapare> I try to look at the syslog but except the swapper error I don't see nothing more see Bug #938170 <mrand> kapare, I'm not actually running unity. I need to play with it more, but it seems more cumbersome than xfce or gnome 2. <kapare> mrand, k i just want to run mplayer/other player on.... xbmc or ubuntu-tv I'm curious to see both on panda. <kapare> If you know best way to do this, any tutorial or how to that is more straight forward? thx #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-27 <Horanche> hello everyone :D <Horanche> ??? <Horanche> how can i contribute to ubuntu tv ? <Saviq> Horanche, hey, did you see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv/contributors ? <Horanche> okay thank you Saviq :D <Saviq> Horanche, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing should get you up to speed on building / trying it out etc. <Horanche> okay but i'm just a web programmer and a good designer i think i can can do anything <Horanche> i need ubuntu for test ubuntu tv ? <Saviq> Horanche, yes, ubuntu tv will only run on a Ubuntu system <Horanche> ok <Saviq> well, truth is it can run anywhere all the dependencies are available <Saviq> and Ubuntu is the easiest way to obtain those <Horanche> :/ i can't download build-dep :o <Saviq> Horanche, there's no "install" there <Horanche> ?? what <Saviq> Horanche, `apt-get build-dep unity-2d` will install the build dependencies for unity-2d <Saviq> not `apt-get install build-dep unity-2d` <Horanche> :D tank you <Saviq> you're armored car ;) <Horanche> i have exactly make this mistake --" <Horanche> i test them on VirtualBox <Horanche> but i've got a second computer which are used as media center :) <Saviq> Horanche, for ubuntu-tv in VBox you need to disable OpenGL, 'cause it requires shaders, which VBox's OpenGL drivers don't support <Horanche> saviq -> can i use your launchpad id or how can i make my own id ? <Horanche> i've an error from linux when i want execute bzr branch lp:~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk ubuntu-tv <Horanche> ERROR : Unsupported protocol for url "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/s-team/ubuntutv/trunk <_Marcus> Hi! How do people test Ubuntu TV? Do they need special TV hardware? <popey> _Marcus: we've mostly tested on the Acer Aspire Revo <popey> but you can install the software on a pretty standard computer <_Marcus> http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AspireRevo-AR3700-U3002-Compact-Desktop/dp/B00433SP6G <- That? <_Marcus> So the TVs will have to be like computers? <popey> yeah, those things <popey> no <_Marcus> Oh? <popey> thats just what we tested on <robclark> or on arm/omap board: http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/ubuntu-tv-fully-accelerated-on-a-pandaboard-with-ubuntu-leb/ ;-) <popey> because TVs are so easy to flash software onto âº <_Marcus> I've always been a fan of, well, I guess "Smart TVs" would be a name for them. <_Marcus> Like those Google TVs <_Marcus> Or the touchscreens ones you see on shows like NCIS. <popey> âº <popey> i dont really want to touch my tv <popey> its way too far away âº <robclark> touch works a bit better when the "tv" is on the back of the airplane seat in front of you <popey> true <robclark> hmm, but gesture recognition otoh... <_Marcus> My TV is about 7.6 miles away. <_Marcus> But when I get back, being able to walk up to it and browse the internet or do other things with it would be intresting <_Marcus> I wonder how much touch screen technology costs <_Marcus> That would be cool to make it work with Ubuntu TV. <_Marcus> The future is now :D #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-28 <_Marcus> What is the recommended hardware for running Ubuntu TV on a virtual machine? <_Marcus> I mean, what hardware should I have it emulate? <popey> 11:07:01 < Saviq> Horanche, for ubuntu-tv in VBox you need to disable OpenGL, 'cause it requires shaders, which VBox's OpenGL drivers don't support <_Marcus> So disable OpenGL. Anything else? <popey> I haven't run it in a VM, so I don't know actually <_Marcus> Okay <_Marcus> I'll just try running it on the default hardware in Virtual Box <_Marcus> What is a "10' interface"? <_Marcus> Is that touchscreen? <L-----D> _Marcus, I think that means you watch from 10' distance <popey> it does <popey> sit back, remote control in hand. <_Marcus> Where is the Ubuntu TV source code? <L-----D> _Marcus, see launchpad #ubuntu-tv 2012-02-29 <tiox> Figured I would come in and say hi. <tiox> Question I am sure has been asked a few times already: Could it be possible, some time in the future when Ubuntu TV really comes into fruition, to install on a PC, then make the "TV" display the primary component, with other applications running in the background, and maybe with the aid of Compiz, deferred to the other monitors? <tiox> Odd question, some clarification, could I define the primary display, and have the TV components of Ubuntu TV be on the primary while other applications go into secondary displays in the future, so, for instance, I could rock a television setup on the really big main monitor, with other monitors doing things like chatting and web viewing? Or would it be too big a strain on the system, even with today's ultra-powerful processors and vide <repete> Saviq, any thoughts on whether the Raspberry Pi will run Ubuntu TV? <popey> repete: we don't support the arm rev of rpi <repete> popey, I know we don't now, because it is ARM11 <popey> we could, if we put some engineering effort in <repete> popey, any concerns with the FPS of the GPU? <popey> i don't know enough about it, but xbmc has been demoed on it <repete> cool <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKhnoQMwjmQ <Saviq> repete, AFAIK the biggest problem with the Pi is its lack of umph when it comes to CPU power <Saviq> the other issue I saw mentioned was the lack of support for their video decoding HW <Saviq> rsalveti, you should know more ^? <repete> Saviq, huh... thought I head it did hw decode of video <Saviq> repete, it does <Saviq> repete, but AFAIK we don't have the drivers <repete> right... <repete> but Debian runs on it, right? <Saviq> yes <repete> So the code must be available <Saviq> and actually the drivers part will probably be solved one way or another <repete> I know ARM11 is a blocker as well <Saviq> another issue is RAM, it only has 128/256 MB IIRC <repete> Might be a good use case for optimising <Saviq> that is wireless/wired /methinks <Saviq> i.e. if you want onboard wireless, you only get 128MB RAM <repete> right. Was just reading that both now have 256 MB, but still that is low <Saviq> oh ok so that changed <Saviq> yeah, my unity-2d-shell has 117M residual now <rsalveti> I don't think we'll support raspberry pi so soon <rsalveti> we'd need to change quite a few things to make it supported <rsalveti> if you want to run debian, you'd just need a way to have the video decode support working with qt <rsalveti> either with gstreamer or using another proprietary solution <rsalveti> didn't yet check how it's doing the video decoding #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-01 <bobweaver> ping Saviq <mhall119> tgm4883: bobweaver: are we doing this meeting on IRC or G+ Hangout? <bobweaver> I was wondering how many people are going to show up <bobweaver> or if they want to ask us questions there is one dude that I think should talk to you <bobweaver> he was asking about nameing and grammer and stuff like that That I just can not handle <bobweaver> because I do not know <bobweaver> let me get you link <mhall119> we can do an on-air hangout, so it'll be recorded on youtube <mhall119> especially if you want to screen-share or something <mhall119> either way it fine by me <bobweaver> yeah that would be cool lets see how many people would like that <bobweaver> dude's Lp https://launchpad.net/~rewarp <bobweaver> link to post <bobweaver> https://plus.google.com/104659991254860976283/posts/Qoz92Y6PBpo <bobweaver> His name is +Rewarp sudo make install <tgm4883> mhall119, bobweaver so.. meeting? <mhall119> yes <mhall119> tgm4883: bobweaver asked about doing a G+ Hangout, can you join one? <tgm4883> nope <mhall119> ok, better to do it on IRC then <mhall119> bobweaver: okay by you? <bobweaver> sure <tgm4883> mhall119, it's not even that, for some reason this scope isn't starting on boot :/ <bobweaver> tgm4883, what is in services file <mhall119> tgm4883: I don't think it usually gets started until you open the dash the first time <tgm4883> bobweaver, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/unity-scope-mythtv/view/head:/mythtv.scope <tgm4883> mhall119, well it doesn't show up in the dash either <tgm4883> the filters <tgm4883> which indicate it's not running <tgm4883> oh wait <tgm4883> I think I see the issue, let me test <CrestedNewt> tgm4883 plugs computer into mains socket :D <mhall119> it should show up in the dash if your .lens file is correct, even if the process can't load <tgm4883> mhall119, that has never been what I've experienced in my testing <tgm4883> scope only, no lens <mhall119> tgm4883: oh, ok, so are you using the videos lens, or a hidden lens? <tgm4883> videos <mhall119> ok <mhall119> so then you have your .scope in /usr/share/unity/lenses/video/ <CrestedNewt> guys I have gtg - need to finish off dinner <CrestedNewt> and then eat it <tgm4883> hmm <tgm4883> mhall119, so thought I fixed it, turns out that my scope now crashes the desktop <tgm4883> mhall119, that seems like a bug that shouldn't happen <tgm4883> I think it's crashing X <tgm4883> oh nice, causing dbus-daemon to segfault <mhall119> ouch, how's it doing that? <mhall119> oh, wow <tgm4883> causes crash to login screen <mhall119> it really shouldn't be able to do that.... :( <tgm4883> yea <tgm4883> thats what I think as well <mhall119> are you still using the Dee package from 12.10? <tgm4883> I'm on 12.10 <mhall119> oh <tgm4883> sec, let me do a quick pastebin so you can see what I changed <mhall119> can you file a bug for this against the unity project, and try and narrow down the cause? <tgm4883> or rather <tgm4883> [Scope] <tgm4883> DBusName=net.launchpad.scope.video.mythtv <tgm4883> DBusPath=/net/launchpad/scope/video/mythtv <tgm4883> is that a valid scope file <tgm4883> mhall119, I'll have to see if I can reproduce it in a VM before I do that <tgm4883> since I am running 2 packages that have an additional patch for xserver <mhall119> ah, ok <tgm4883> does that scope file look ok though? <mhall119> tgm4883: looks okay, what does the .service file look like? <mhall119> tgm4883: it should have a Name= field too <mhall119> your .scope file <tgm4883> hmm <mhall119> and Description= <tgm4883> service file looks bad <mhall119> I don't not if those are required or optional <tgm4883> somehow an extra o got in there <tgm4883> o[D-BUS Service] <tgm4883> Name=net.launchpad.scope.video.mythtv <tgm4883> Exec=/usr/lib/unity-scope-mythtv/unity-scope-mythtv <mhall119> tgm4883: that might do it * tgm4883 tests <tgm4883> well nothing blew up that time <tgm4883> it doesn't appear to be running though <mhall119> Name=Locoteams Scope <mhall119> ignore that <mhall119> /usr/lib/unity-scope-mythtv/unity-scope-mythtv is where your script is? <tgm4883> mhall119, had to logout/login <tgm4883> seems like there should be some trigger to load new scopes <mhall119> no, it only loads them on Unity startup <tgm4883> yea I know <mhall119> there's been a bug to fix that for a while now <tgm4883> I'm saying it "should" have a trigger to load new ones on install <mhall119> I agree <tgm4883> mhall119, I am going to ask you about data files though in setup.py <mhall119> I tried to implement that once, but C kicked my butt and I gave up <tgm4883> mhall119, here is a little secret about my packaging. I pretty much don't know how to package things at all <tgm4883> The best I can do is python installs <tgm4883> and even then, it's pretty basic stuff <tgm4883> so if I have to touch debian/rules, i'm pretty lost <tgm4883> mhall119, so i've got this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1598279/ <tgm4883> but it doesn't install the image <mhall119> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1598284/ is one of mine that I'm pretty sure worked <tgm4883> mhall119, yea, it's this part <tgm4883> cmdclass={"build": build_extra.build_extra, }, <tgm4883> I need something in debian/rules for that right? <mhall119> I don't think so... <tgm4883> hmm, it complains when I have it in there <mhall119> what's in your rules file? <mhall119> tgm4883: actually it might be easier ot just get a branch of your code <mhall119> is it on LP? <tgm4883> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythtvservices/view/head:/debian/rules <tgm4883> mhall119, you might still have the branch :) <mhall119> tgm4883: that doesn't have the scope though <mhall119> only ./src/mythtvservices.py <tgm4883> mhall119, true, we're moved away from talking about the scope after we fixed the bug <tgm4883> for this package, I just need to install the svg so we have a nice icon for notifications <tgm4883> the scopes depend on this package <tgm4883> mhall119, oh, it's missing the svg though from the branch, just uploaded it <mhall119> ok <bobweaver> tgm4883, you have schedulesdirect ? <tgm4883> bobweaver, yes <bobweaver> cool <bobweaver> is there any way that I could get you to post a xml file from <bobweaver> http://<YouR Backend>:6544/Guide/GetProgramGuide?StartTime=2013-01-31T19:00:00&EndTime=2013-02-01T20:00:00 <tgm4883> why? <bobweaver> so I can compair someone that has that and free stuff over the net <bobweaver> compare <tgm4883> compare what? <bobweaver> I do not have SD <bobweaver> so Like SubTitle Cat Type Category <bobweaver> none of thouse things come in for me <tgm4883> bobweaver, sec <bobweaver> thansk <tgm4883> bobweaver, do you really want 25 hours worth? <bobweaver> nah <bobweaver> but it loads in real fast <bobweaver> I think that you can limit channel numbers and also start channels you know better then I do <tgm4883> well, it should be 4 hour blocks probably <tgm4883> for viewing <tgm4883> but we'll need to load the entire guide I think <tgm4883> for searching <bobweaver> I am working on gathering info for previews of Channel <bobweaver> like recored <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/245093 <bobweaver> StartTime , EndTime,Title,Repeat,SubProps so far <mhall119> tgm4883: bzr merge lp:~mhall119/mythbuntu/mythtvservices-packaging <tgm4883> bobweaver, what is your email so I can send you this file <bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills <bobweaver> sorry but it is my name with a @ubuntu.com <tgm4883> bobweaver, https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2CFu7s2X8OuSkE5M3Q1aFcxVGM/edit?usp=sharing <bobweaver> thanks :) <tgm4883> bobweaver, let me know if that isn't what you want <bobweaver> how long should I scan for ? <tgm4883> I think that is 4 hours <bobweaver> cool, No I was saying How Long sould the guide look for ? <bobweaver> right now 25 hours <tgm4883> bobweaver, for display or searching? <bobweaver> Like how big should the guide be ? <bobweaver> yeah <tgm4883> for display, it should be probably 4 hours wide <bobweaver> how many of them should there be ? <tgm4883> how many channels tall? <tgm4883> However many you can load in the space and make it look reasonable <bobweaver> what ever fits on to the screen kinda hard to say because it depends on how big the screen is <bobweaver> Let me check what it is on mine <bobweaver> In Tv mode it is like 7 <bobweaver> 6 1/2 but on the 7th one it adjusts it self <bobweaver> On desktop mode it shows all my channels but I only have 14 <bobweaver> that is like 1280 - lensbar at bottom and panel and about 100 px of headerspace <tgm4883> couldn't you do "show up to 15 channels" and set a minimum pixel height based on resolutions <bobweaver> I dont know every time I try to do that something errors out <bobweaver> like the font for the "title" will crap out <tgm4883> mhall119, awesome, that works <bobweaver> there is some javascript that I did not right I have used it in the past but does not work so well <tgm4883> now I can package up the guide scope, work out lintian errors and push to PPA <bobweaver> / 1080p on a 42" screen <bobweaver> is what they had it set too <bobweaver> thanks again tgm4883 that is 100% what I was looking for <tgm4883> bobweaver, so is there something you can point me to as an example of working ubuntu tv previews? <tgm4883> I mean, I can't fix these previews if I don't know what I'm aiming for <bobweaver> tgm4883, what do you mean ? <bobweaver> like example ? <tgm4883> is there a working python preview that you can show me? <bobweaver> so I guess that I shoudl tell you how they use to work in Ubuntu TV and what I have done <bobweaver> so before they everytime that a program was clicked it would run a Function that would check to see if the mimetype was = video <bobweaver> if it was then it automaticly brought up the previews <bobweaver> So What I did was rewrite so that if left clicked and checks after that to see what type it is or maybee looks at uri or a part of a uri Let me show you a example it is the only way that I can explain <bobweaver> But It is imporant to note that there are to functions <bobweaver> activatePreviews() and deactivatePreviews() <bobweaver> so <bobweaver> else if (mimeType.substring(mimeType.lastIndexOf("/")+1) === "x-desktop") <bobweaver> looks at mimetpe and cus the sting (javascript) and sees if it is x-desktop inother words it takes applications/x-desktop mimetype and turns it into just x-desktop if this is true we assign a preview page to this <bobweaver> return "ApplicationPreview.qml" <bobweaver> Now for yours <bobweaver> else if (mimeType.indexOf("video/") == 0) <bobweaver> return "MythTvPreview.qml" <bobweaver> so if you change the mimetype in your scope to say "myth" that would be great and it would always know this <bobweaver> if we open up "MythTvPreview.qml <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/u2t/dailybuilds/view/head:/shell/dash/previews/MythTvPreview.qml <bobweaver> If you look there is a thing at the top called VideoPreview (line 8 ) <bobweaver> this is where the binding happens with unity and scopes and previews <bobweaver> so ANYTHING that you want to pass to previews you just give it a name and tell me and I add to the list <bobweaver> the list is <bobweaver> property string uri <bobweaver> property int category <bobweaver> property variant nfo <bobweaver> property variant buttons <bobweaver> property string name <bobweaver> property string iconHint <bobweaver> property string comment <bobweaver> property string lens: dashLoader.item.lenses <bobweaver> as you set them in the lens they can be read over unity so to say <bobweaver> so if you look there is a whole folder that is for Mythtv that will go in Ubuntu SDK Well I hope <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/u2t/dailybuilds/files/head:/shell/dash/previews/Mythtv/ #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-02 <tgm4883> is there any debugging I can run to see what access Unity has to the scope on my system <bobweaver> but there are things that can be used at this point say. How your scope (the one that I am using) I use the "comments" for "Plot" <bobweaver> it is what you write I would think <bobweaver> I do not know that much about python or making lens or scopes <tgm4883> not in python <tgm4883> I want to know if there is some unity debugging I can enable <tgm4883> so that when I click on a movie, it shows me what Unity sees <bobweaver> but I would think that there has to be documentation for that I would also look at the lensview.cpp IDK <bobweaver> OH <bobweaver> yeah you can just set up debug points <tgm4883> ok, how do I do that <bobweaver> Like add a mouseArea to a Item that uses console.log() <bobweaver> like <bobweaver> MouseArea{ Onclicked: console.log(mimetype + uri + somethingIamadding) } <bobweaver> you can also use html in that but it needs "" <bobweaver> I woul also look at the man pages to see if there is a verbose or debug mode <tgm4883> bobweaver, yea there is --verbose <tgm4883> and --advanced-debug <bobweaver> This is something that I have been doing to all the code like adding console.log("\n |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| THIS IS FOR DEBUGING ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| \n" <bobweaver> + " || This is the lensId :\t\t"+ lens +"\t\t\t ||" <bobweaver> +"\n || This is the Uri: \t"+ uri <bobweaver> + "\n || This is the mimeTyp:\t\t"+ mimetype + "\t\t\t\t ||" <bobweaver> + "\n |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||") <bobweaver> there you go <tgm4883> bobweaver, that there that you added <tgm4883> do you have a link to a bzr branch you have it in? <tgm4883> that looks like exactly what I'm looking for <bobweaver> yeah it is the u2t one <bobweaver> tgm4883, let me take a screen shot of preview debug that I made <tgm4883> ok <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/245112 <tgm4883> bobweaver, yea that is what I'm looking for <tgm4883> but I want it for one of the mythtv videos, and also I want to know where you get lens/uri/mimetype from? <bobweaver> I could walk you though how to set that up but if Phone is dbus then I will pass that way also <bobweaver> that is just a preview that is called "Default" <tgm4883> bobweaver, that needs to be in there at compile time right? <bobweaver> yeah <bobweaver> but that is qml so not compile <bobweaver> so unity 2d backend that is compile stuff (like lens and stuff like that) But the full front end is all QML <tgm4883> mhall119, ping <mhall119> tgm4883: pong <tgm4883> mhall119, I need to know what uses DNDURI and how important it is before we completely break it's functionality <mhall119> tgm4883: I think it's what is used if you click-and-drag from the dash, to let the launcher items know <tgm4883> mhall119, is that it's only function? <mhall119> that I know of <tgm4883> ok <tgm4883> we might break it's functionality then <mhall119> honestly, I've always just used the same uri <mhall119> why? <tgm4883> mhall119, so have I <tgm4883> mhall119, to pass other info between scope and unity <mhall119> tgm4883: if you wait just a bit longer, there will be a field you can use for that <tgm4883> mhall119, but that wouldn't work with ubuntu tv <mhall119> honestly it was supposed to be done and public by now, but it's been taking longer than expected <mhall119> it will when the TV dash is updated to use the new API #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-03 <tgm4883> mhall119, we might actually be able to just do this with URI rather than DNDURI <mhall119> sure, you can url encode whatever you wanted, as long as the thing on the receiving end knows what to do with it <mhall119> but there will be a more formal way of doing it soon <bobweaver> hey mhall119 we are having a google hangout would you like a invite <bobweaver> me and tgm4883 <mhall119> bobweaver: thanks, but it's saturday evening with my family <mhall119> so I'm going to take a pass <bobweaver> cool <bobweaver> So me and tgm4883 tried out is scope (that has previews wrote in it) And they Work ! <bobweaver> his * <bobweaver> this means that all lens and scopes that have previews can not but put in U2t / ubuntu tv mockup <bobweaver> s|not|now <bobweaver> this means that all lens and scopes that have previews can now be put in U2t / ubuntu tv mockup <bobweaver> ping mhall119 hey there do you know anything about screenshots.ubuntu.com ? I am making a preview and if there is not a screen shot there then I want to point the user to the upload section with the name of the app all filed out and what not. But I can not figure out how to make the correct str <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/245391 <bobweaver> Like <bobweaver> http://screenshots.debian.net/upload?packagename=kazam <bobweaver> would be for kazam but that does not work and I can not seem to figure it out. thanks for your time <mhall119> bobweaver: I don't know if kazam is in debian... <bobweaver> It says that it is there <mhall119> bobweaver: there's an API for apps.ubuntu.com that might be able to get you screenshots <mhall119> let me see if I can find documentation on it <bobweaver> thanks dude <bobweaver> mhall119, did you also see that after hangout with me and tgm4883 we figured out that u2t can 100% handle previews from python (like the same as 3d) <mhall119> no, but that's awesome <bobweaver> yeah I just have to change some "wording" and make buttons and stuff like that just like 3d <mhall119> bobweaver: looks like you can get a json list of screenshots from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/screenshots/kazam/ <mhall119> there aren't any for kazam, but if you replace it with another package name you'll see screenshot urls <bobweaver> awesome I am uploading video so you can see what i am doing <bobweaver> what about to upload a image ? to that spot ? <bobweaver> mhall119, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9X4dJOMt4k&feature=youtu.be <mhall119> bobweaver: if Kazam was submitted through MyApps they can upload images there <mhall119> if it's in the main archives, I'm not sure what the process it <bobweaver> cool #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-04 <tgm4883> mhall119, ping <tgm4883> mhall119, was wondering if there was a specific reason to depend on 2.37 of python3-dist-utils-extra in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythtvservices/view/head:/debian/control <tgm4883> it seems to work with 2.34 in precise <mhall119> tgm4883: it's just the version I had <mhall119> 2.34 is fine <tgm4883> ok #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-05 <mhall119> solarcloud: welcome <mhall119> solarcloud: we don't have any recommended or targeted hardware for the TV right now <mhall119> basically anything that you can connect to a TV <mhall119> a remove control would be handy, but not required <mhall119> tgm4883 and bobweaver (not hear atm) could tell you what hardware they use <solarcloud> ok .. that is a major drawback for testers ... <solarcloud> but the Dude abides * tgm4883 peaks in <mhall119> solarcloud: understood, we just don't have anything yet <mhall119> tgm4883: solarcloud is wondering what kind of HTPC he should use to test the TV stuff <tgm4883> ah <tgm4883> which part? <solarcloud> I could just test it on my 19" monitor ? <tgm4883> yea <tgm4883> it's probably worth noting that A) it's pretty alpha still, and B) it's made of two parts <tgm4883> which can (but don't have to) be on the same machine <solarcloud> tgm4883: Yeah, I get the idea that it supposed to be built into the TV H-ware, but at the moment .. I'm looking at this 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-3D-i3-370M-Graphics-Operating/sim/B004DFFUXK/2 <tgm4883> solarcloud, that would be incorrect. The target is to have an ISO for people to install on any hardare <tgm4883> hardware <solarcloud> oh Ok.. <tgm4883> and what you linked would work, providing all the underlying hardware is supported <tgm4883> solarcloud, of course, that doesn't include a TV tuner card <tgm4883> so you'll still need that <solarcloud> I'm surprised there isn't a contact for all the MediaPlayer guys in the US that can test the hardware.. as Amazon is littered with them (nearly 50 or so).. <tgm4883> not sure I follow <solarcloud> nevermind.. <tgm4883> solarcloud, i'm going to grab some lunch, but I'd be happy to answer any of your questions when I get back <solarcloud> Ok , but I think I'll leave it .. just happy to know that this channel exists ... :) #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-06 <solarcloud> tgm4883: You still about ?? <solarcloud> mhall119: You still about ? <solarcloud> Anyone up for a chat @ 4:17am , Prob.ly not ... #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-08 <CrestedNewt> evening all - we having a meeting? <CrestedNewt> mhall119, tgm4883, bobweaver - we having a meeting? <tgm4883> yep * tgm4883 join #ubuntu-meeting <tgm4883> lol #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-09 <saxin> Can someone direct me to a a youtube video etc, that shows how UbuntuTV is working atm? I have found some on youtube, but they all seem to lag alot. #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-12 <kieppie> hi guys <kieppie> is there anything to download? I'd *love* to try out Ubuntu TV on a Raspberry Pi - unfortunately no Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi though :( <tgm4883> kieppie, Ubuntu TV won't run on raspberry pi either <kieppie> :/ <kieppie> pity * brinj is just seeing if anything is happening #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-13 <kkkkjjjh> sal all <bobweaver> er I can not get anything to install that I want to install :? <bobweaver> http://pastebin.com/31G903eY <bobweaver> bzr branch lp:~fboucault/dee-qt/qt5 <bobweaver> bzr branch lp:~fboucault/bamf-qt/qt5 <bobweaver> bzr branch lp:~fboucault/libdbusmenu-qt/qt5 <bobweaver> and the last one <bobweaver> bzr branch lp:~fboucault/dconf-qt/qt5 <bobweaver> the most important one that is ^^ <bobweaver> read more about it here <bobweaver> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-dev/msg00381.html <jP_wanN> hey there :) <jP_wanN> I read you search for c++ developers? <bobweaver> hello Jp <bobweaver> hello jP_wanN * <jP_wanN> hello <bobweaver> yeah we are looking for qt/c++ developers to help out with some things (porting things to qt5) <bobweaver> like dconf-qt <bobweaver> there is also other things that we are looking for help with when it comes to c++ <bobweaver> thanks for showing up. I will be right back (rebooting ) <bobweaver> sorry about that <jP_wanN> well I never used Qt but I think it's always fun to learn new things <bobweaver> cool <bobweaver> jP_wanN, you do know c++ ? <jP_wanN> yes ^^ <bobweaver> let me get you a ppa that I have been trying to build <jP_wanN> for which system is it? <jP_wanN> I've only got cinnarch and ubuntu 13.04, is that okay or should I install 12.04 / 12.10 for the development? <bobweaver> https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/dconf-qt/qt5 <bobweaver> that is the branch that I have been trying to port to qt5 i tried all night last night and got no where <bobweaver> jP_wanN, dosent matter <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> I'll just install bzr <jP_wanN> well that doesn't look like a ppa anyway <bobweaver> yeah that is not ppa sorry that is just a branch <bobweaver> but that is #1 on list to get that going in qt5 <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> and it seems I have to compile it with cmake. another thing I never used but that shouldn't be the problem. just install and type cmake in the dir? <bobweaver> what i do (not the best c++ person ) <bobweaver> mkdir build && cd build && cmake ../ && make <jP_wanN> okay I'll try it. <jP_wanN> seems I need some qt5 packages... <bobweaver> thanks jP_wanN you are great <jP_wanN_> bobweaver: do you know this error <jP_wanN_> CMake rhonda96@example.net:45 (find_package): By not providing "FindQt5Core.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Core", but CMake did not find one. Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Core" with any of the following names: Qt5CoreConfig.cmake qt5core-config.cmake Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Core" to CM <bobweaver> the cont char one ? <bobweaver> yeah you have to make sure that you are calling in the correct path when using qt5 <bobweaver> there is a ppa for qt5 let me get for you <jP_wanN_> well i'm still on arch ^^ <bobweaver> ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper <bobweaver> Oh <bobweaver> ok qt5 works on arch (I think never used ) <jP_wanN_> okay then I just have to install qt5? <jP_wanN_> I'll try to find it in the AUR (it's not in the official repositories) <bobweaver> http://qt-project.org/downloads <jP_wanN_> is this version okay? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qt5/ <bobweaver> looking now <bobweaver> Yeah that looks great <jP_wanN_> okay <jP_wanN> sorry my internet connection is really horrible. the qt5 will take about half an hour, so don't expect much input from me until then :D <jP_wanN> *the qt5 download <bobweaver> :) <jP_wanN> okay qt is downloaded <jP_wanN> but make runs since 5 - 10 minutes :D <jP_wanN> and my pc really isn't that old ^^ <bobweaver> that is cool jP_wanN so is mine <jP_wanN> make really needs some sort of progress indication ;) <ogra_> whiners ... try building it on an ARM machine <bobweaver> lol <ogra_> :) <bobweaver> I need peps to give me armel machine first <jP_wanN> no I better won't try <bobweaver> ogra_, you got qt5 wayland going on armel ? <ogra_> armel is dead ... armhf is current <bobweaver> << knows nothing about arm <ogra_> havent played with qt5 yet <ogra_> but wayland should work i guess <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu4/+build/4285903 <bobweaver> ogra_, I listened to your talk about building iso's it was Great ! <ogra_> its only 11h for qt4-x11 on arm :) <ogra_> thanks <jP_wanN> armhf is used on the raspberry. but I don't know much more either ^^ <ogra_> i need to go on with documenting the image build stuff <ogra_> the armhf on the raspberry is a frankenberry port :) <bobweaver> that would be cool ogra_ I have also seen that you all are hitting up valgrind alot these days <ogra_> (armhf is usually for ARMv7 CPUs ... RPi rebuilds that for v6) <bobweaver> happy to see that the mem is going down on vexus7 <ogra_> not only on the nexus ... check your intel PC with raring ... it gets the same benefits <bobweaver> sweet <ogra_> in the end we should be back to a proper desktop that doesnt eat a gig <ogra_> (for idling) <bobweaver> \o/ <jP_wanN> yes that's really cool :) <ogra_> currently we're at around 400M already <ogra_> 200M down compared to quantal <ogra_> i guess there are another 100-150M that we can cut off <jP_wanN> now canonical also gets things done that we probably profit from in every distribution. and the next release will be lesser confusing for noobs (I remember apport being one of the first applications starting at the first boot of a ubuntu 12.10 installation) <bobweaver> ogra_, you have seen my video ? https://plus.google.com/u/0/104659991254860976283/posts/Lk3A5yAewwa <bobweaver> after removing some of the colorize effects I have it almost below 200 mb <bobweaver> but then after that I was told to do things with qml2 so I am. It now runs at about 30 mb of ram (but it needs a ton I mean a ton of work ) <bobweaver> I am guessing after everything is said and done 120 mb ram <bobweaver> that is my goal <bobweaver> this is what is running at 30mb's https://plus.google.com/u/0/104659991254860976283/posts/Pqzy9ADuoM1 <bobweaver> but when browser is used it spikes oo* <ogra_> awesome ! <ogra_> heh, indeed * ogra_ is off for dinner <bobweaver> have a good one ogra_ nice catching up :) #ubuntu-tv 2013-02-14 <smartboyhw> bobweaver, PING <smartboyhw> tgm4883, I heard from Google+ that you guys are looking for packagers right? <bobweaver> smartboyhw, pong <smartboyhw> bobweaver, are you looking for people with packaging? <bobweaver> no <bobweaver> well maybe if it is the right thing <smartboyhw> bobweaver, I saw it in G+!? <smartboyhw> !? <bobweaver> more c++ stuff <smartboyhw> bobweaver, you mean both requirements must be met...Grrr <bobweaver> what do you mean grrr <tgm4883> bobweaver, I'm assuming he's talking about "Are you good at c++ are you good at packaging ? then we need your help. 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" <bobweaver> ahh maybe I should take down packaging part <jP_wanN> hello <jP_wanN> bobweaver are you there? :) <bobweaver> yup <bobweaver> how you doing jP_wanN <jP_wanN> I've succesfully compiled qt5 <jP_wanN> and I roughly know where the first error with the dconf-qt code that make shows is coming from <jP_wanN> but I couldn't find the struct definition of QMetaObject; of which an object is being initialized in qconf.cpp line 296 that produces the error <jP_wanN> not in the qt sources neither on the net ^^ <jP_wanN> should I just ask the owner of the branch where he got those things from? <jP_wanN> it's not you, right? :D <bobweaver> yeah that is what I would do <bobweaver> I am also getting same error about cont char <bobweaver> const * <bobweaver> jP_wanN, no it is not me. maybe Saviq or Mirv can help you out with that <bobweaver> I know that Mirv has been doing alot of packaging as of the late all qt5 stuff <bobweaver> fol-something or anothor would be a key person to talk to <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> I'll just see if the branch owner is online <bobweaver> this dude https://launchpad.net/~fboucault <jP_wanN> yes i know <jP_wanN> there's also his IRC nick :=) <jP_wanN> :) <bobweaver> I asked about the error on #qt today and got a response "why are you doing moc job" <bobweaver> then I explained that I did not know what I was talking about <bobweaver> then they told me to port mmore simple things . at that point I knew I was way way way over my head <bobweaver> Once we get that and QConf ported (dee bamf I think are ported) we can then start to make a engine to call unity 3d <bobweaver> example : <bobweaver> static const char* UNITY_DCONF_SCHEMA = "com.canonical.Unity"; <bobweaver> inline QConf& unityConfiguration() { <bobweaver> static QConf configuration(UNITY_DCONF_SCHEMA); <bobweaver> return configuration; <bobweaver> } <bobweaver> then just expose QConf and wamo we can read and change dconf settings <bobweaver> engine->rootContext()->setContextProperty("unityConfiguration", &unityConfiguration()); <bobweaver> unityConfiguration.formFactor === "tv" ? do this : do this <jP_wanN> okay I don't understand much of that either :D <jP_wanN> but I am optimistic that my basic understanding of C++ will be enough to find out what the QMetaObject is for, how it should be used, and how it can be properly initalized ;) <jP_wanN> okay after reading over your code a bit I think I understand it. <jP_wanN> dconf is that thing ubuntu uses at many points to save application settings, right? <bobweaver> correct <bobweaver> well the full gnome desktop uses dconf (glib-2.0) <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> and why do we need that qt-dconf thing (and what is it basically)? :D <bobweaver> if you look at cd /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ <bobweaver> you will see all the settings that are there for things. these are just simple xml files <jP_wanN> looks cool :) <bobweaver> as of right now (fake Ubuntu TV Qml 2.0)I am just reading these via XMLListModel and reading that way but can not change <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> don't really understand... <bobweaver> lol <bobweaver> take a look at this file <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/u2t/dailybuilds/view/head:/shell/WallpaperColor.qml <bobweaver> see how QConf is reading the scema <bobweaver> schema * <bobweaver> org.gnome.desktop.background <bobweaver> if you look in that dir that I was just talking about you can see that there is all that there <jP_wanN> yes i see <jP_wanN> but that file looks like code <jP_wanN> and I don't know the language <jP_wanN> that thing on launchpad <bobweaver> so in other words it makes it so one can change the settings of the desktop from the dash itsself <bobweaver> jP_wanN, that is QML I can take care of all that ;) <jP_wanN> okay... <bobweaver> It is the backend tools that I can not take care of :/ <jP_wanN> okay <jP_wanN> so QConf is the tool that should read the xml schemas on ubuntu TV? <bobweaver> Yeah <bobweaver> that is the tool that is a awesome tool <jP_wanN> good then I know everything I wanted to ): <jP_wanN> :) <jP_wanN> just one thing, is that branch a newer version of QConf we want to adapt to or is it something new? <jP_wanN> because you said something of porting it... <bobweaver> jP_wanN, you are porting that right now <bobweaver> Qconf == dconf-qt <bobweaver> Qconf is the name that the plugin
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