#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-01
<bcurtiswx> maco, you plan on attenting Bug Jam ?
<maco> maybe later in the evening
<bcurtiswx> OK, thx
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-02
<bcurtiswx> im leaving to West Falls Church right now, will be at TOI within 1-1.5 hours
<bcurtiswx> saying the metro won't be "too bad"
<bcurtiswx> 4 at TOI right now
<bcurtiswx> maco, network manager on KDE is painful. i don't understand it
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, you stopping by TOI today?
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: not planning, but I could, why?
<bcurtiswx> its the global bug jam you should come by and chill for a while
<bcurtiswx> don't make me sick kjcole on you...
<ncweber> If nothing else, the food is awesome.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-04
<ncweber> Looks like it's going to be one *those* Mondays. :P
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-06
<bcurtiswx> i got sponsorship :) woot woot
<maco> grats!
<bcurtiswx> thx, now I have to study up on how overseas travel is.. since this will be my first time
<maco> bring a book but make sure to sleep on the plane
<maco> i recommend trying to force yourself to sleep on the plane at the time that would be bedtime in your target country
<maco> (this worked well for me for barcelona. i went to sleep when it was like midnight or 1am spanish time so it shifted my clock)
<bcurtiswx> maco, how will my passport experience be at the airport.  Is it just hand them the passport and be on my way, or is there like 1 million questions?
<maco> "why are you coming here?" "business" "ok"
<maco> (valid answers are business or tourism)
<maco> the worst part is waiting in line
<bcurtiswx> does this all happen when i GET there?
<maco> yes
<maco> passport lines getting back into the US tend to be forever long
<maco> passport lines getting into european countries seem to be a lot easier :P
<bcurtiswx> so it'll be like any other day flying there, until i get there..
<maco> at which point, just make sure you have your passport in your carry on!
<bcurtiswx> what about me being English and others being... well.. whatever the native language in Hungary is
<maco> english is the language of tourism
<maco> all the airports ive been to in europe, they had everything in $native and english
<maco> (and thatd be hungarian, which is, btw, one of the hardest languages there is. 17 cases iirc, so ya know...3x as hard as latin)
<maco> (and unrelated to practically every other language)
<bcurtiswx> lol, OK
<maco> its "language family" consists of it, finnish, and estonian
<maco> so i think they're used to foreigners being totally clueless
<maco> (whereas i think the italians are used to americans like me who smash spanish into being workable)
<bcurtiswx> what about getting to the Hotel? and getting my keys and such for the Hotel... will i need to fight non-english people at the counter?
<bcurtiswx> oh and phones, what should I get?
<maco> people will be listing their flight info on the ubuntu wiki. you'll probably want to share a cab with another ubuntu person. if you can say the hotel name, you're fine
<maco> i usually consider a week in europe to be an excuse to avoid phones :P
<bcurtiswx> well, emergencies?
<maco> a GSM phone will work, but if you use your american SIM itll be expensive. you can get prepaid SIMs there
<maco> ive never bothered
<maco> i have Verizon, so my phone's CDMA and can't work in europe, period
<bcurtiswx> yes, i have VZ too
<maco> verizon will allow you to rent an international phone
<maco> i remember my dad did that when we went to europe for two weeks
<bcurtiswx> im assuming a tracphone would be cheaper than that tho
<maco> guess my attitude is:  if i have an emergency in europe, what the hell are my american friends going to do about it? and i dont have #s to call here, so...??
<maco> as far as just keeping in touch with your fiance... skype/IM
<bcurtiswx> yeah, im guessing the hotel will have free internet for the Ubuntu people
<maco> oh i guess you should know that the emergency phone number for (afaik) everywhere not-USA is 999 (not 911)
<maco> yep, thats always part of the deal
<bcurtiswx> will the room i stay in have that? or should I only expect it in the conference area?
<bcurtiswx> like the US hotels do
<maco> oooh wait nope. in the EU it's 112
<maco> not sure about in rooms. hotel lobby tends to have free wifi negotiated for our week
<maco> i *think* in dallas it was free-in-lobby and also free-in-room-outside-of-9-to-5 to keep people from going back to their room during sessions
<bcurtiswx> maco, thx.  Do I need to get some hungarian currency?
<maco> austria uses euro, so i imagine hungary does too
<bcurtiswx> what meals (if any) are provided?
<maco> breakfast if you wake up early enough and lunch
<maco> afterward you can submit a reimbursement request for taxis + dinner
<maco> they'll tell you what the per diem is
<maco> you need receipts for taxi to/from hotel
<maco> the per diem (to cover dinner, possibly public transit to/from restaurant) is honour-system
<maco> i think it was $27/day in orlando
<bcurtiswx> that you won't make it pricey... yeah.. i know how that is
<maco> so you could claim $27 each day whether youd spent it or not, which...ya know...
<bcurtiswx> why not...
<bcurtiswx> i always do when i travel domestically
<maco> i actually didnt fill in reimbursement forms for any of the UDSes i went to
<maco> i figured i wouldve eaten dinner regardless
 * bcurtiswx wonders how many euros i'd need
<maco> i tookd 250â¬ when i went to barcelona
<maco> it was Travelex's smallest number that you could get and be able to return leftovers with no fees
<maco> i used most of it, though i still have a small stash of euros in my drawer
<maco> wait thats not right
<maco> i took $250-worth of euro
<maco> so like 200â¬
<bcurtiswx> lol, OK
<maco> at the time that was probably more like 150â¬
<maco> yay exchange rates
<bcurtiswx> who's the most fun to hang out with?
<maco> i usually hang out with the kubuntu team
<maco> i tried hanging out with the kernel team the first time i went to uds, but... i get a bit much of a "little girl, go away" vibe from someone on there, and many of them are a bit crass...
<bcurtiswx> I'd say I'd hang out with the Desktop Team, but im sure that won't happen
<bcurtiswx> at least I've talked with om26er abotu hanging out
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-07
<bcurtiswx> maco, so how long to EU? when should I plan on taking off from the states?
<maco> bcurtiswx: hungary apparently does have their own currency
<maco> i think it was 8 hours to italy, so probably 10?
<maco> canonical will set you up with a travel agent though
<maco> you should be leaving some time that saturday
<maco> and getting there some time sunda
<maco> *sunday
<bcurtiswx> hmm
<bcurtiswx> Then leaving BUdapest saturday early afternoon would get us back in the states that night even if it's a 10 hour-ish flight
<bcurtiswx> maco, more ?'s for ya
<bcurtiswx> maco, what is the afterwards life like? do people just go back to their rooms, or is it like bar hop?
<maco> bar hop
<maco> going to bed before midnight is odd
<maco> well its not all bars though :P i mean, hang out in the hallway and discuss stuff, go out to a restaurant...then comes the bar
<bcurtiswx> do they take american ID's for ID? or most european countries don't care?
<lfaraone> maco: if you or bcurtiswx don't mind being late to TOI this weekend, my school's putting on a production of the broadway musical "AIDA" on Saturday; I'd love if you'd be able to come. (I'm in tech)
<maco> my parents are visiting this weekend
<lfaraone> maco: well, there's also a thursday and friday show at 7. <_<;
<maco> while i could probably convince them to go to TOI (they love it) i dont think theyd want to be with the nerds
<maco> as in today? or next week?
<lfaraone> maco: today and tomorrow and this saturday.
<maco> cuz today = oh no, mom's coming over! clean! clean! clean!
<lfaraone> I'll miss TOI entirely, theatre has me from 12:30 til 23h.
<lfaraone> (on saturday)
<lfaraone> maco: it looked clean enough when I was at your party.
<maco> i got a boyfriend, and then time-spent-picking-up-after-myself went away
<maco> also i have lots of crafts projects stuff out
<lfaraone> haha, okay then. I'll just sob silently.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-08
<bcurtiswx> i'm totally tempted to throw a joke into the discussion on #ubuntu-desktop right now
<bcurtiswx> "My wrist has this nasty twitch, and somehow the launcher keeps appearing"
<bcurtiswx> "Too much positive reinforecement from the launcher appearing when i move my mouse to the upper corner"
<ncweber> Looks like Commodore is bringing back the Commodore 64, only enhanced to perform like a modern machine.  It'll still have Workbench and be compatible with Commodore and Amiga OSes.
<ncweber> Twitch, huh. Hmmmmm.....
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-11
<ncweber> It's quiet.  Too quiet.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-12
<ncweber> Not only do we have no channel trolls, there's a dearth of members as well. :)
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-14
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, im testing this pithos update to see if the gstreamer errors i get are gone
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: apprecieted, but it probably won't be fixed, none of the bugfixes addressed that bug.
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: I'm not really sure what cause is :(
<bcurtiswx> well kenvandine uses it and doesn't have those issues
<bcurtiswx> so i wonder if it's the diff between dist-upgrade and fresh install
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, any way to find out where the errors happening?
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: hmmmmmmm. odd. thanks for testing!
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: run it with verbose?
 * lfaraone will brb, classes.
<lfaraone> Did we decide whether the keysigning will be this Saturday or next?
<bcurtiswx> idk, i can't make t his weekend
<bcurtiswx> so next weekend would be better
<lfaraone> mk. Perhaps we should clarify on-list so people don't end up split up.
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, how can we find out where the errors coming from
<bcurtiswx> it would be a great bugfix to get into natty
<bcurtiswx> kenvandine DOES get that error
<bcurtiswx> i was mistaken
<lfaraone> right, I think it affects everybody. but it'd be nice to find an easy way to reproduce it quickly. it seems to happen after playing a couple of songs.
<lfaraone> I'm sure that when the upstream developer migrates to Natty we'll get a fix shortly :) but then it'd be a SRU.
<bcurtiswx> well you or I can get an SRU no problem
<lfaraone> Right, still a PITA and sub-optimal.
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: btw, do you know any undergraduate CS students at GMU?
<bcurtiswx> nope
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, i only know CDS students.  We're a completely different breed ;)
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: hahah, mk.
<bcurtiswx> when r u visiting GMU next?
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: this Sunday, they have an admitted student thingie from 1100-1400 or so.
<bcurtiswx> eek, you'll have fun fighting the circus traffic
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: yes, they mentioned that.
<lfaraone> should we get there early?
<bcurtiswx> well, the circus performs during the weekend at the patriot center.  So since you'll be coming from EFC, just park in rhappahannok (sp?) parking garage
<bcurtiswx> the circus is on the south side of campus (in Lot A)
<bcurtiswx> Rhappahannok is on the north side
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: do you have machines running maverick / lucid still?
<bcurtiswx> my main machine is actually Hardy.... i don't control the dist-upgrades unfortunately
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: mk... if you do have a machine running either of those dists running around, it'd be awesome if you could test https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/698122
<lubotu1> Launchpad bug 698122 in python-gasp (Ubuntu Maverick) "Backend reports image not found when attempting image import" [Undecided,Fix committed]
<lfaraone> I would, but I was the one who submitted the SRU :)
<lfaraone> I'll see if I can get some of my CS classmates to test it on Lucid.
<bcurtiswx> i don't have either, actually
<bcurtiswx> i have natty and hardy
<bcurtiswx> well this may be intrepid, i can't remember
<bcurtiswx> Yup, it's hardy
<bcurtiswx> soooo two LTS's ago
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, i don't have that e-mail anymore, so would you mention to have the keysigning party not this saturday but next saturday
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: will do.l
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, muchas gracias
<maco> i got an email from someone wanting to do a keysigning. i told him that we were already talking about doing one @ TOI on the 23rd
<bcurtiswx> maco, oh, cool.  Well, then maybe it needs an official clarification on the ML ?
<lfaraone> maco: I got the same email, Robert something right?
<maco> yeah
<bcurtiswx> anyone talk to dtchen lately to see how he's doing?
<maco> ive seen him on mailing lists within the last few weeks
<maco> he should be back in the country  in about a month
<lfaraone> well, I'll be meeting Robert S. wrt GPG-signing this Sunday, since he indicated he might miss the TOI event next week.
<lfaraone> I should also be there next Saturday.
<Beto> Hello. I'm looking for some help with Ubuntu 10.10. I'm trying to install it on to a Compaq Presario SR2023WM Running Windows XP Sp3.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-16
<bcurtiswx> Wasn't TOI next weekend?
<jbicha> yes, except for @kjcole :-)
<kjcole_> Just arrived at Taste of India...
<kjcole_> And in an attempt to travel light, forgot all forms of ID. ;-) Sigh.  Back in a second or three...
<kjcole_> Once more, with feeling. And ID.
<kjcole_> And we are three. Robert Simmons, Scott Wells and myself.
<jbicha> well there should be more people next week
<kjcole_> I'll try to make it next week... Highly likely that I'll succeed.
<kjcole__> Time for din-din.  Laptop off. Ta-ta.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-19
<bcurtiswx> maco, once I accept sponsorship, i setup the air through the travel agency, i should expect the travel agency to tell canonical so canonical pays right?
<bcurtiswx> maco, also, once I register with marianna, do I need to setup the hotel or is that done by them
<maco> bcurtiswx: right, they bill canonical
<maco> bcurtiswx: marianna will set up the hotel and give you a roommate
<maco> whether you will be informed of who your roommate is before you check-in, i don't know
<maco> in barcelona and dallas, we were told in advance. in florida we weren't
<bcurtiswx> maco, OK, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't supposed to expect a roomie e-mail.
<maco> also, if you want to request anyone in particular, now's the time to email marianna
<bcurtiswx> idk any in particular
<bcurtiswx> i'd ask kenvandine, but i would assume canonical employees get their own rooms..
<maco> nope, they share
<maco> in dallas, Riddell & cjwatson shared
<maco> heh in barcelona, the email they sent had me with Mike Basinger. jorge forgot to tell claire i'm female, and she just random'd it.
<maco> (it was quickly switched so that i was with dan)
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-23
<bcurtiswx> maco, you going into TOI tomorrow?
<maco> thats the plan
<maco> must remember to grab passport first
<bcurtiswx> how does a keysigning party work?
<bcurtiswx> lfaraone, ^^ u 2
<ncweber> What is a keysigning party to begin with?
<bcurtiswx> all of us have GPG keys, and a keysigning party is where you get others to sign your key signifying you are who you are
<bcurtiswx> you should use GPG keys in e-mails, help verify you are who you are
<ncweber> Thunderbird has that built in, I think.
<maco> no its a plugin i think
<maco> enigmail
<ncweber> Although I'm not using it.
<maco> kmail and evolution have it by default
<maco> but you can either use it for encryption (confidentiality) or signing (integrity, non-repudiation), or both
<ncweber> I see.
<ncweber> Evolution, yech
<bcurtiswx> I'm interested in talks about Thunderbird becoming default at UDS, may not be a bad idea
<bcurtiswx> would require a TON of work (with all the EDS integration), but may be good
<jbicha_> eds?
<jbicha_> I think calendar support is the big concern
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: yessir.
<lfaraone> jbicha_: well, we have Lightning for that, but it has rough edges.
<lfaraone> jbicha_: Evolution Data Server.
<bcurtiswx> Great what time?
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: sometime between 4 and 6
<lfaraone> with luck, four to six.
<bcurtiswx> From EFC right?
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: yes.
<bcurtiswx> Cool
 * lfaraone â sleep, back in the morrow. See you after-noon.
<bcurtiswx> Same here nite
<ceros> hello
<ceros> so i suppose i'll be seeing some of you at TOI today
* kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to: GPG keysigning at Taste of India (http://tasteofindia.us/) 2011.04.23 late afternoon / evening
<lfaraone> bcurtiswx: jfyi i'm running a little late, currebtly arriving at Ballston aboveground
<bcurtiswx> I'm going to be MIA, sorry
<kjcole_> We are seven at Taste of India at the moment. (5:50)
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-28
<jbicha> maco: I signed your new key for you
<maco> you hadnt signed my old one....
<maco> thats a bit odd
<jbicha> you want me to sign the old one?
<maco> you kind of broke the trust model by signing my new one
<maco> since you never verified my old one that i used to sign the blurb about the new one, for all you know it *could* be faked and someone hacked my blog or something
<jbicha> but it was signed by your old one which is definitely you
<maco> normally only signers-of-previous-keys will automatically sign newer keys
<maco> *or* a very clever ruse!  you never did actually confirm my old key yourself, right?
<maco> does where i'm going make sense?
<jbicha> yes I believe I confirmed your old key first
<maco> (ftr, no it is not someone pretending to be me and making up fake stuff to break the trust model; i really am key transitioning, but still the priniciple...)
<jbicha> I'm not that paranoid, the old key was around for quite a while with quite a few signatures
<jbicha> anyway, I made a new key too since Debian is picky
<jbicha> I only had like 2 signatures on my old one so it wasn't a big deal for me
<maco> jbicha: can you test something?
<maco> well wait...are you on natty?
<jbicha> yes and yes
<maco> log out and see if you can find a way to get into the options menu and select classic ubuntu from *just* the keyboard
<jbicha> next week I might be on O because I'm crazy that way
<maco> and then tell me what key sequence did it
<jbicha> but just one of my computers; the rest will stay on Natty for a while
<maco> the toolchain won't even be ready in a weeek
<jbicha> uploads already started which surprised me: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric
<jbicha> maco: I can't figure out how to access the bottom panel from the keyboard in the GDM login
<jbicha> I have switched to konsole because gnome-terminal wouldn't work right with this 1 script
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-29
<ncweber> I'm liking the new Ubuntu.  Unity finally works flawlessly (as compared to 10.10 Netbook Edition).
<ncweber> So far, the only thing that's not working is Gwibber.  I may have damaged it previously when stopping it from loading.  It was eating up some serious CPU on my netbook.
<ncweber> Still is, actually.  Why it needs three copies of gwibber-service running is beyond me.  I may just write it off as a loss and continue to use the Adobe AIR based Seesmic Desktop
<bcurtiswx> amazing how a fresh install really speeds things up :-\
<bcurtiswx> .gnupg moved to fresh install
<bcurtiswx> does .ssh _really_ need to as well?
<maco> do you need your ssh keys?
<bcurtiswx> <shrugs>
<bcurtiswx> won't hurt either way i guess
<bcurtiswx> maco, think you'll make it to TOI for a bit tomorrow?
<maco> idk. boyfriend's birthday weekend
<bcurtiswx> whats better than indian cuisine on a birthday??? huh?? huh! :P
<ncweber> I won't be there.  Got a nasty cold.  Don't wanna spread it around.  The bug stops here.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2011-04-30
<bcurtiswx> leaving for TOI very soon
<bcurtiswx> coming from WFC
<ceros> i'm now just leaving so i'll be there late
<ceros> see ya
<bcurtiswx> I'm on the orange line as I type
<bcurtiswx> Going underground not sure how conn will be
<bcurtiswx> @metro center
<bcurtiswx> At TOI
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-02
<bcurtiswx> good morning
<ChinnoDog> morning
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-03
<bcurtiswx> good morning
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-04
<bcurtiswx> good morning
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-09
<ncweber> I'm liking the new videos that Ubuntu Devs are putting up on YouTube. Very polished.
<phezo> hi
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-20
<ramsrambo> Need help installing Ubuntu 12 beta 2
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-22
<ncweber> Has the meeting started yet?
* kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to: Meetings 6pm Saturdays here in IRC | Launchpad: http://is.gd/udclp | Mailing list: http://is.gd/udcmail
* kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to: Meetings 6pm Saturdays here in IRC | Working on LoCo reapproval
<kjcole> kjcole (Kevin Cole), jelkner (Jeff Elkner), fixer (Keith Howell) meeting now to work on LoCo reapproval.
<jelkner> Agreed:
<jelkner> 1. Keith will check with Canonical to get clearer expectations on what to do to maintain our status in the future
<jelkner> 2. Jeff will organize regular irc meetings
<jelkner> 3. Kevin will work on website
* jelkner changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to:  1st Monthly meeting Saturday, 29 April 2012 at 6 pm here on this channel
<hazmat> greetings are there any plans for a release party?
<kch> We are trying to get something organized.
<bcurtiswx> I wanted to let everyone know I'm still around. I won't be in DC next weekend. I have to go up to NY for some wedding stuff.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-23
<maco2> http://www.tpff.org/2012/04/20/community-tables-application-form-now-online/
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-25
<marcoceppi> o/
<hazmat> marcoceppi, !
<marcoceppi> I KNOW
<marcoceppi> I figure, if I have to use IRC for juju, I might as well hang out in here
<hazmat> marcoceppi, word.. i just started doing it myself
<hazmat> there's a mailing list where most of the action is
<marcoceppi> yeah, I've been on that for almost a year now
<marcoceppi> figured since we're trying to get reapproval I should be in here
<hazmat> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-us-dc
<hazmat> gotcha
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-28
* kjcole changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-dc to:  1st Monthly meeting Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 6:30 pm here on this channel
<kjcole> Stepping away til 6:30 showtime.
<ghoulmann> ghoulmann is rik goldman.
<ghoulmann> ^ for the log
<kjcole> And, I'm back.
<ghoulmann> greets.
<ghoulmann> I'll have to run soon, but i want to thank sincerely the loco for the support for the release party, moral and otherwise.
<kjcole> I suppose, for the log, I should also identify. Not certain if it's worth much but it can't hurt.
 * kjcole is Kevin Cole
<kjcole> I was so hoping that jelkner would be on, since he said he'd be running this meeting...  I'm going to operate on the assumption he'll get here soon.
<kjcole> (I'll try calling.  BRB)
<ghoulmann> this is something i've been working toward scripting from a lts core (turnkey linux for me): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/EdubuntuServer
<kjcole> I just left a message.
<ghoulmann> the launchpad link is dead, so I suspect it's not a priority any longer.
<kjcole> ghoulmann you have photos from today, yes?  Are you on Flickr?
<ghoulmann> kjcole: I do have a few (the photographer in me is embarassed). I will post to flickr and update on the listserv.
<ghoulmann> phone quality, so my promise is weak.
<kjcole> ghoulmann, I should have taken some myself (not that I'm any great shakes  with a camera).  Or, perhaps I *am* great shakes but that's *not* a good thing for photography.
 * ghoulmann nods in understanding.
<kjcole> I guess I'll hang for another 10 minutes or so, and if there's no action here, declare it "adjourned".
<ghoulmann> fair enough. I'd love to see us crowd source a post install script that newkins can run and have everything they need, given how available storage is now.
<ghoulmann> another activity: if we could take shifts on the support channels, it may be becoming for us.
<kjcole> I find personally, that even after many years, I'm asking more questions than I answer on IRC, and I still am not enthralled with lots of simultaneous conversations. That said, yeah, I could probably put in some hours.
<kjcole> My mind's a sieve: IEP software name again?
<ghoulmann> I could make time somewhere. possibly incorporate it into instruction.
<ghoulmann> iep-ipp. ISO should be on http://9while9.com (based on lucid)
<ghoulmann> the patch is also available at the forums @ http://turnkeylinux.org
<emaag> greets
<kjcole> Jeff Elkner left Yorktown a few years ago to work at the Arlington Career Center, and is also doing work with Northern VA Community College.  I imagine he'll want to convert the whole beastie to Python.  Possibly Django.
<kjcole> Ah, another voice heard from.  Welcome.  FWIW, we're doing the whole "/me is So and So" for the logs.
<ghoulmann> also to plant a seed for ed tech folks: I'd like to put together a paper on using svn or git as a writing process tool.
<kjcole> ghoulmann: What??? Not bzr???  ;-)
<ghoulmann> I see; i haven't figured out ubuntu fhs standards for python web apps, so that leaves me with little to contribute.
<ghoulmann> i associate bzr with people i am unhappy to know.
<kjcole> FHS?
<ghoulmann> filesystem hierarchy standard
<kjcole> Ah.
<ghoulmann> where to put the pages if not in /usr/share/ or /var/www
<kjcole> I was a latecomer to revision control systems.  At an Ubuntu Developer's Summit I saw an early version of bzr and said "Oh! Not at all as complicated as I thought!  I could use that."  So that's really been the only one I've used (other than pulling from git or svn repositories elsewhere).
<kjcole> I *did* finally get a small taste of contributing via git, through the Open Hatch on Campus event at U. Md. last month.
<ghoulmann> i know at least one person is onto revision tracking for writing composition. I want to present something somewhere as soon as possible. Two excellent books, both from pragmatic guides, one to subversion and one on git.
<kjcole> ghoulmann you may want to look at Open Hatch if you haven't already: http://openhatch.org/
<ghoulmann> move peer review and feedback to bug tracking system, and you have a nice writing process program in place.
<ghoulmann> i sure will.
<ghoulmann> looks great.
<kjcole> I use bzr to track my office's web pages, and now to track my Django stuff as well.
<ghoulmann> hm, i'll track a primer down.
<kjcole> So, emaag, thoughts on how to build a loco?
<ghoulmann> i'll forward info about byte back's community day to the listserv. they're looking for 45 minutes of instruction from volunteers.
<ghoulmann> (in brookland)
<kjcole> bzr primer? http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/tutorials/bzr-intro.html
<ghoulmann> hey look, a contribution.
<ghoulmann> oh, 2006. still, kudos.
<kjcole> And very basic. If you're already using svn and / or git with any fluency, you'll find the bzr primer VERY superficial.
<ghoulmann> i am not using either with proficiency, just pulling for automating patches as necessary.
<ghoulmann> bzr i associate exclusively with python webapps, for better or worse.
<kjcole> Oh, then you'll definitely get some use from the primer.  A more thorough treatment can be had at:
<kjcole> the resources listed at the end of my primer.  (I was going to type the urls, and then thought "no. Wait. I probably already did in the primer.")
<ghoulmann> yup, saw them there. bookmarked.
<ghoulmann> ok, gotta run, my record ended.
<kjcole> Well, it looks like this "meeting" is you and I.   In which case, I'm thinking of wandering off to dinner. ;-)
<ghoulmann> g'night. thanks again.
<kjcole> Two minds with but one thought.
<kjcole> Later dude.
<ghoulmann> ciao.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-29
<Octane> sup
<Octane> marcoceppi u there
<marcoceppi> Octane: I am now
<Octane> marcoceppi <= dan berger from #someetup
<marcoceppi> Hey, how's it going?
<marcoceppi> Octane: did you start your upgrading yet?
<Octane> going good man
<Octane> yeah i upgraded... trying to fix my mouse issues right now
<Octane> right click works but theres no mouse pointer and left click doesnt work lol
<marcoceppi> That's...odd, have you made it all the way up to 12.04?
<Octane> yup :)
<Octane> im not the only one it seems per askubuntu
<marcoceppi> Yeah, I found a few mentioning it
#ubuntu-us-dc 2012-04-30
<ncweber> Wait the meeting was Saturday? Dang, I thought it was Sunday. No wonder I didn't see anyone online.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-06
<permz> hello
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-11
<aprez> http://imgur.com/a/60Oeb#0
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-12
<ChinnoDog> idk what the point of that pic was
<marcoceppi> it sure was a bunch of pictures
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-16
<ChinnoDog> Morning, peeps
<marcoceppi> morning
<ChinnoDog> Anyone here using Touch?
<adom> ChinnoDog: no, but im planning on buying a Nexus 7 or 10 just to install it.
<adom> once its mature, of course
<marcoceppi> I'll have it running here in a few days
<marcoceppi> I've got a 4 already and have a 7 enroute
<ChinnoDog> 7 seems too small. 10" or bust.
<ChinnoDog> I don't want to spend $500 on one though
<ChinnoDog> http://liliputing.com/2013/04/cube-u30gt2-quad-core-tablet-review.html
<ChinnoDog> It is fast, it is cheap, it comes from the land of the rising sun. Why doesn't Touch run on it yet?
<ChinnoDog> Oh wait, land of the rising sun is Japan
<ChinnoDog> It comes from China.  My bad.
<marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: I'm sure touch will run on there eventually
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-17
<adom> i've recently had this epiphany about phones and tablets... ill soon only buy android-based stuff from Google. i.e. my next phone will be the nexus 4 (assuming they dont upgrade to the "nexus 5" or something).
<marcoceppi> adom: what was this epiphany?
<adom> i have a GS3, which is one of if not the most popular Android phones out there, yet we still have to wait long periods of time before updates and upgrades are pushed to us.
<marcoceppi> Oh, You're going to just buy everything unlocked from Google, you mean?
<marcoceppi> I mis-read
<adom> yes. if you have a Google product, such as the Nexus line, you get updates immediately. also big projects such as Touch are geared toward Nexus products first because they are ground zero for Android development.
<marcoceppi> yup
<marcoceppi> that's why when I finally ditched my Palm Pre2/HP TouchPad, I decided to move to native Google
<adom> and as an added bonus, they dont come preloaded with T-Mobile/AT&T/Verizon bloatware crap that you can't install
<adom> they're just pure Android
 * marcoceppi nods
<adom> Palm to Google must've been a big switch
<adom> anything you miss about Palm or hate about Google?
<marcoceppi> it was drastic to say the least
<marcoceppi> I love'd the WebOS workflow
<marcoceppi> I still do, I just have to learn to adapt
<marcoceppi> Multi-tasking, no java, UI, ease of app development
<adom> i see
<adom> i havent done any phone/tablet development [yet] so i dont know the constraints you have to deal with
<marcoceppi> Well, I'm not a Java programmer so I'm really not going to write apps for Android
<marcoceppi> I wrote apps for the WebOS platform because their app market place was severely lacking
<adom> i'd like to a few simple ideas i have for android into app form in some way
<adom> but its just one of those "if i have the spare time maybe i'll dabble" things that we never get around to
<ChinnoDog> I had a Palm Pre. I loved it but their marketing department was full of fail. What a shame.
<ChinnoDog> They didn't even gracefully carry PalmOS apps forward.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-19
<adom> so someone from the area tell me for real, should i be concerned about this cicada thing coming? or is it just something that passes and you dont mind it much?
<marcoceppi> adom: were you around in 1996 or the brood after that? ~2004?
<ChinnoDog> At least they don't bite
<ChinnoDog> They just stick their mouth parts in you if they mistake you for a tree
<adom> marcoceppi: no, just moved to Woodbridge in February.
<adom> ChinnoDog: i feel like there's an "ex-gf" joke in there somewhere...
<marcoceppi> adom: it's just going to be really anoying for a bit
<marcoceppi> loud, and crunchy
<adom> neighbor says to invest in a good outdoor broom because of all the dead insect bodies that will be by your front and back doors
<adom> is that true?
<marcoceppi> yeah, that's some good advice
<marcoceppi> (dead insect bodies is where the crunch comes from)
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-20
<ChinnoDog> mmm, crunchy. I lived in Saudi Arabia as a kid. Every year the locust swarms from Africa would cross the Red Sea and for three weeks or so there would be locusts everywhere.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2013-04-24
<ncweber> I think I'm starting to get the hang of this Empathy issue.
<ncweber> Well, at least as far as IRC is concerned.
<ncweber> Looks like Empathy logs in and out of accounts in a rather random fashion.  I wonder if it's a Haze issue.
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-01
<adom> n|west: we usually check in here and there, but not consistently active i guess
<adom> i usually check in once or twice a day
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-03
<adom> unsure why my nick keeps changing to adom_
<adom> im only logged in from one location
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-09
<ChinnoDog> chirp chirp
<manchicken> Sup
<manchicken> Err, bok bok.
<marcoceppi> o/
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-11
<ChinnoDog> Need an IT montgomeryrobert@example.net. ~3 years experience. Anyone know someone that needs a job like that?
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-15
<adom> ChinnoDog: what kind of IT engineer? infrastructure? hosting? linux? windows?
<ChinnoDog> windows infrastructure
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-17
 * adom is back in the states.
<adom> ChinnoDog: what's the position? and how's the pay?
<ChinnoDog> see PM
<ChinnoDog> adom:
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-21
<ChinnoDog> Ubuntu
<marcoceppi> Rules!
 * adom rolls eyes at the nerds.
<ChinnoDog> ha
#ubuntu-us-dc 2014-04-29
<Sarkadark> Hello?
<Sarkadark> Anyone around?
#ubuntu-us-dc 2015-04-13
<swift110> hey all
#ubuntu-us-dc 2015-04-16
<swift110> hey all
#ubuntu-us-dc 2015-04-25
<swift110> hello all
#ubuntu-us-dc 2016-04-27
<adom> marcoceppi: hey man. have you played with Ubuntu MATE on Raspberry Pi at all? curious on how well it runs...might be just the excuse I need to buy a Pi3 finally...
<adom> reference: https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-xenial-raspberry-pi/
#ubuntu-us-dc 2017-04-06
<ChinnoDog> marcoceppi: Touch is dead? :-(
<ChinnoDog> What is the future of Canonical if touch and Unity are sidelined?
<marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: cloud, desktop, server, iot
<ChinnoDog> marcoceppi: I thought desktop was dying and being replaced by mobile. Isn't that the entire point of Unity?
<marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: no, unity was to converge the code base to provide a single method for producing a UI on mobile that was mobile friendly but then scale and change to be a full desktop seamlessly
<ChinnoDog> Right. It bridges the gap. Without it Ubuntu is stuck with large screens and keyboards.
<ChinnoDog> marcoceppi:
<marcoceppi> Right, and that's why mobile is being sunset
<marcoceppi> as a result, unity and mir are going with it
<ChinnoDog> Hmm. Seems like a significant loss.
<marcoceppi> Well, it's not trivial
<marcoceppi> it is a bit, but it's a shift
#ubuntu-us-dc 2017-04-17
<juang> hello
#ubuntu-us-dc 2017-04-26
<swift110> hey all
#ubuntu-us-dc 2018-04-04
<swift110> hey
#ubuntu-us-dc 2018-04-07
<swift110-phone__> Hey
#ubuntu-us-dc 2018-04-12
<ChinnoDog> sup
#ubuntu-us-dc 2018-04-13
<swift110> hey
#ubuntu-us-dc 2019-04-17
<swift110> hey all
#ubuntu-us-dc 2019-04-20
<swift110-phone__> Hmm

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