#ubuntu-mate 2016-05-03 <alkisg> OK from now on ubuntulog2 has joined and logs this channels, like all the other emily84@example.com <Gallomimia> why is it ubuntulog2? what happened to ubuntulog1? did 2 kill 1 and is now replaced him with a psilon? <Gallomimia> well. seems i celebrated a little too early. my wifi dongle does indeed drop out and act lame under MATE. <Gallomimia> say, if i try to install on an existing disk with raid, crypto, and LVM. is the ubuntu-mate installer going to figure that out? <Gallomimia> seems to be making a good try of it, since i installed mdadm manually, assembled the raid and unlocked the crytpo in a Live session <Gallomimia> here's hoping it puts mdadm and cryptsetup into the initrd <Gallomimia> ah. failed to install grub. expected. here comes a bug report. probably not useful <Gallomimia> huh. what is this: "Welcome to emergency mode!" <Gallomimia> didn't even see a grub menu <Gallomimia> seems to have loaded the wrong initrd. really odd <Gallomimia> oh. it's not using the right /boot directory. what in the world? <Gallomimia> well. looks like i've pretty well messed that up <mona_> hello any germans could help me to create a usb-boot stick <mona_> bios always says missing operating system <swift110> hey all <mona_> i converted usb stick to fat32, used unetbootin <mona_> and tried with 2 computzers to boot <swift110> hey mona_ how are you?/ <mona_> fine thanks. but my english is not that good :/ <swift110> where are you from mon <Nosophorus> hello, guys! <alkisg> Hello <Nosophorus> I'm having some problems to create cover art for mp3 files. <Nosophorus> Caja doesn't create thumbnails (or cover art) for those files. <Nosophorus> Any direction on how to deal with this problem? <alkisg> How big are they? <alkisg> (in MB) <Nosophorus> Most of them are less than 10MB <alkisg> And they are .mp3 files with embedded cover? <Nosophorus> Yes. <Nosophorus> And no cover/thumbnail is created at all <alkisg> Was caja or nautilus ever able to generate thumbnails from .mp3 files? <alkisg> Caja/Nautilus run special programs to generate thumbnails, based on the file extensions <Nosophorus> I don't know that. Where can I find that information? Dconf? <Nosophorus> I have ffmpegthumbnailer installed. <alkisg> See an example, on how to add support for .psd (photoshop) thumbnails to nautilus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/671024/how-to-make-nautilus-display-psd-thumnails <alkisg> I don't know if caja has a registered thumbnailer for .mp3 covers <Nosophorus> OK. <alkisg> gsettings list-recursively | grep thumbnail does show a few related settings, but the full list isn't there <vdi> Hi everybody <vdi> i can't install the program " audio recorder" in a new install of ubuntu mate 16.04. Maybe something wrong with the repositories <mra_> hmmh <mra_> vdi: that doesn't sound like a package name though <vanceX> vdi: Try sudo apt-get install audio-recorder <vanceX> vdi: You may need to add a repo, see here... http://www.infoworld.com/article/2701761/install-audio-recorder-in-linux-mint-16.html <vdi> i had the message " package audio-recorder isn't available" , now i will try with terminal <vdi> https://launchpad.net/~audio-recorder/+archive/ubuntu/ppa <mra_> vdi: did you get it working? <vdi> i remove old ppa and add new ppa and install it by the terminal, SOLVED <mra_> great <vdi> thanks for your help <vdi> good evening everybody, bonne nuit Ã tous <pablo_> hola <pablo_> estoy fumcionando en raspberry pi 3 con MATE 16.04 y me gustaria poder conectarme a traves de ssh desde el pc o android <Nosophorus> SOLVED! <Nosophorus> I had to install totem! <Nosophorus> Just that. <pablo_> con raspbian fue muy facil <Watney> Can anyone explain why this community is so uptight? <mra_> Watney: hmm, haven't seen any uptightness in here <Watney> not specifically the mate community but in Linux in generall <mra_> hmmh <mra_> is that so? i don't know the communities of other operating systems <mra_> Watney: do you have an example of this in mind? <Nosophorus> Watney, Too much dependencies to solve, dude. :-) <Watney> nothing in particular. This is kinda turning me off from Linux as a social thing. <Watney> the coolest part of an os for me <mra_> okay <mra_> it's not for everyone <Watney> sorry to bum you out its just I move here from windows and I love the actual software but the users is what kills it for me <pablo_> bueno...gracias <Watney> *moved* <mra_> hmm <mra_> well, i don't see a way to help you atm <Watney> thats okay, not really what I was looking for, I am just mad that people ruin this stuff and not the actual software <mra_> okay <swift110> hmm <juan_> helloo <juan_> ]hello <swift110> hmm <dave__> hi <Gallomimia> uh, how do i manually configure a dns server? i've tried a few things. none of them working <Gallomimia> ah there it goes. <Gallomimia> strangeness never ends i guess. 87 billion places to configure something, only one of them takes any effect #ubuntu-mate 2016-05-04 <TheMarius> just curious, is this for a home computer and what are you using it for? <Gallomimia> who mine? right now i'm simply trying to make it boot. the problem with my DNS system is i tunnel internet thru my laptop, since the wifi dongle i have is frosted flakes. the laptop doesn't forward DNS so after dhcp goes thru, i have to change the dns config to one layer up in NAT <TheMarius> but if you get it running, what are you going to use it for? <TheMarius> im just looking at getting my awsome ubuntu mate setup up to do something useful <TheMarius> got slow bandwith so i dont think fileserver is any point <TheMarius> maybe xmpp server is something to look into though <ouroumov> Hi Gallomimia <ouroumov> Maybe this'll help: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/the-ars-guide-to-building-a-linux-router-from-scratch/ <Gallomimia> general desktop use, including gaming, personal serving, compiling... whatever <Gallomimia> it's fairly loaded. lots of drives <Gallomimia> tried ubuntu unity for a long while. that entire situation is a bit of a joke <TheMarius> all i have now is a 5 tb home network server, but as fast and stable this system is i want it to do more <Gallomimia> unity looks nice, but it runs like a damn brick <TheMarius> its on 24/7 anyway <Gallomimia> yeah. i prefer to leave mine on 24/7 <Gallomimia> but the first incarnation it had an ATI card, with some kind of factory overclocked feature that didn't fit inside the normal drivers <TheMarius> this is the first distro that has been running flawless with my ATI card <Gallomimia> came with windows only drivers. if any program made the wrong call to the driver, the entire desktop environment crashed <TheMarius> im not sure what kind of magic they've done <Gallomimia> especially bitcoin miner program. which i was running just as an added heat source in my room >< <TheMarius> im not mining bitcoins, i want to do something for people for free <Gallomimia> had to shut it down to do anything with the system. and shutting it down triggered a crash. kinda contrairy to running a linux distro at all eh? <ouroumov> That's as good a reason as many lol <TheMarius> xmpp is a descent idea <TheMarius> but i know 0 about setting it up, which to get etc <Gallomimia> the jabber server? <TheMarius> xmpp shouldnt consume much bandwith either <TheMarius> yeah <Gallomimia> it *IS* a decent idea. but it's implemented with XML <Gallomimia> lame. <TheMarius> meaning? <Gallomimia> i was just talking with some folks in another channel for a game... <Gallomimia> irc is still here. not going away any time soon <TheMarius> eggdrop bot <Gallomimia> i figured xmpp would take off and we'd be using that instead of telephones or skype or anything <Gallomimia> one thing i'd like to set up is multiseat <TheMarius> thing is <Gallomimia> this thing has 2 monitors, and enough power to run 2 of any older game <TheMarius> when i ran linux mint for a few years i had only that one laptop <Gallomimia> play with a friend <TheMarius> i never experimented much with servers and networks <TheMarius> now i have this massive 5 tb desktop <Gallomimia> well, i've found out the hard way... there's but one way to learn those things <Gallomimia> to yes, experiment, and to also generate some kind of need to learn it <ouroumov> TheMarius, if you wanna do something for people for free... There's Boinc. <Gallomimia> my favorite communication protocol to date is mumble <Gallomimia> whats boinc? <TheMarius> never had a linux install that ran well on this until this ubuntu mate 16.04 ... therefore this is more interesting now ... and i love the way linux works, with mounting into directories etc <ouroumov> Gallomimia, distributed computing for research projects <Gallomimia> oh yeah <Gallomimia> neato <TheMarius> ouroumov, irc bouncer so i get banned? no thanks <ouroumov> Here's an example of project you can donate CPU time to: https://mindmodeling.org/ <Gallomimia> like seti@home or protien folding, but for anything <ouroumov> TheMarius, I think you mistook what I was talking about xD <ouroumov> Gallomimia, yes <Gallomimia> TheMarius: first of all, it's not a bouncer, and second, they don't get you banned. in fact i'm using one now <Gallomimia> and since we're on the subject of drives <TheMarius> xmpp and a eggdrop bot are the 2 ideas i have <Gallomimia> i'd like to show off my rig: <Gallomimia> i've got 3x 2tb drives in a raid5 <Gallomimia> and i've also got a single 3tb drive. i have a pair of those <TheMarius> owncloud was a good idea but this network is too slow.. if fiber ever gets here to farmville ill set that up <Gallomimia> but the other two sata ports on my board are populated with SSDs <alexei> nice rig <Gallomimia> whoa what <Gallomimia> what is owncloud? <Gallomimia> cause i've been wanting something named that for awhile <TheMarius> Gallomimia, like dropbox only with as much storage as you want <TheMarius> set up on your home server <Gallomimia> yeah awesome <Gallomimia> exactly what i want <alexei> wait what? is it free? <TheMarius> thumbs up for that <TheMarius> ofcourse.. you use your own diskspace <alexei> awesome <TheMarius> google it and get working then :) got the tip from someone here a couple of days ago <freakjota> hi alla <TheMarius> but with 3 mbit or what it is here, its useless <ouroumov> hi freakjota <alexei> lol <Gallomimia> yeah i've got less than that right now <alexei> i have 10 mbit.. but i have a crappy pc <Gallomimia> but soon i hope it'll be more <alexei> oh ok <Gallomimia> k. gotta get back to plowing food into my face. need my hands, so i watch TV <alexei> do u know how to quick search for apps in mate <alexei> ok <Gallomimia> who me? no <Gallomimia> barely used it. ran an install <TheMarius> 3 mbit is just enough to watch youtube in 480p <TheMarius> or netflix in "moderate" resolution <TheMarius> thats it <TheMarius> however its fine for me... i dont need more <TheMarius> just wonder what im going to use this server for, and the 5 tb of diskspace :/ <TheMarius> must be something useful <TheMarius> actually i can hook up 2.5 tb more <TheMarius> which would make it 7.5 tb <TheMarius> im out of warez and that sort of things <ouroumov> TheMarius, you wanna find use for what, your disk space? Your Internet connection? Your CPU? <TheMarius> everything <TheMarius> server ideas basically <TheMarius> never mind... ill keep looking <ouroumov> So distributed computing for your CPU, such as seti@home, Seeding the ubuntu torrents for your bandwidth, And Incremental backup of your machines for the disk space <ouroumov> That'd me my go-to <TheMarius> k :) noted <Gallomimia> i know someone who plays with AI, neural nets <ouroumov> Gallomimia, gotta have a nice GPU for that <Gallomimia> actually he's got cpu cores galore <ouroumov> oh :o <ouroumov> Xeon-like? <Gallomimia> yeah i think so <Gallomimia> he told me the specs. E5 something something <Gallomimia> dual cpu, hexcore +HT <Gallomimia> can't remember exactly. reams of ram <ouroumov> Sounds expensive <shantorn> howdy ri <ouroumov> hi shantorn <shantorn> hi there <shantorn> i miss typed the entry sorry <shantorn> i usually just watch and learn <ouroumov> You're welcome to do so. xD <ouroumov> Though this is not an overly active channel so it might be a while till there's something worth watching x) <ouroumov> shantorn, you're a new Ubuntu MATE user? <shantorn> not really, been using it since 15.04, used to always use mint mate but i feel the ubuntu version is a bit nappier <shantorn> snapier <shantorn> and i have been using 16.04 since beta one and i just love the software boutique <ouroumov> Yeah, the "Welcome" thing as a whole is awesome <shantorn> i have to learn about the ubuntu way to set up my optimus graphic on my laptop <ouroumov> Holly crap: http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/easily-exploited-bug-exposes-huge-number-of-sites-to-code-execution-attacks/ <Gallomimia> i finally got my ubuntu mate install to boot, but it doesn't log in. <Gallomimia> typing the password causes some kind of flicker, and returns to the login screen <Gallomimia> i need some help getting resolvconf setup on command line. fix DNS <ouroumov> Gallomimia, you've asked on the forums yet? <Gallomimia> i shouldn't need to ask. there should be something i can find <ouroumov> shantorn, I remember seeing a few post about optimus on the forums <ouroumov> Gallomimia, you've managed to log in? <Gallomimia> sure. just press ctrl+alt+f1 and you get a text console <Gallomimia> not very helpful when trying to edit graphical based settings <ouroumov> So you should be able to interface with the network manager using nmcli <Gallomimia> ah that'll help yes <ouroumov> DNS resolving is set up automatically when using DHCP <ouroumov> Are you using static addressing? <Gallomimia> no. it sets up auto with dhcp <Gallomimia> but.... <Gallomimia> the dns info it gets is dead wrong <ouroumov> And you're sure it's not your router's fault? :x <Gallomimia> i'm absolutely sure it's my router's fault <Gallomimia> you see my router is this laptop <Gallomimia> the wireless dongle i have for my desktop is absolute drek. so i tether it to this, which gives dhcp, but no dns <shantorn> thanks ouroumov <Gallomimia> yet it still passes a dns value of itself <Gallomimia> i really don't need to talk about networking theory. i just want to set the nameserver address <Gallomimia> why is it so hard?? <ouroumov> Gallomimia, "nmcli c mod uuid +ipv4.dns (316)288-4715" <Gallomimia> what's uuid? <ouroumov> Where uuid is obtained from the list "nmcli c show" <Gallomimia> ouroumov: there's no way i'm going to type all that out <ouroumov> Yeah, I feel your pain. I'm looking up the documentation for hints as to how to show the id for a connection <ouroumov> Error: invalid field 'id'; allowed fields: NAME,UUID,TYPE,TIMESTAMP,TIMESTAMP-REAL,AUTOCONNECT,AUTOCONNECT-PRIORITY,READONLY,DBUS-PATH,ACTIVE,DEVICE,STATE,ACTIVE-PATH. -_- <ouroumov> so yeah <Gallomimia> if i could just use some bash-fu to cut and paste that value in... <Gallomimia> fek it i'll just painstakingly type it all out <Gallomimia> no copy and paste for me... <ouroumov> VARIABLE=`nmcli c show | grep wlp2s0 | rev | cut -d' ' -f2 | rev` <Gallomimia> or, i could check some logs about why the GUI doesn't work <ouroumov> for the wlp2s0 interface <Gallomimia> not quite the name of mine but... <Gallomimia> might as well type out the uuid instead of all that :P <ouroumov> Sure, it'll be different based on your hardware <ouroumov> Gallomimia, I know right? x) <ouroumov> OH! <ouroumov> nmcli -f UUID c <Gallomimia> what's that do? <Gallomimia> anyway, i tried the first command. no luck <ouroumov> just prints the UUID, you can grep for the first characters then <Gallomimia> yeah neat <ouroumov> Gallomimia, the DNS command? <Gallomimia> still no dns <Gallomimia> yep. <ouroumov> Try and remove the "+", that way dns servs are replaced, not added to <Gallomimia> still nothing <Gallomimia> and it disturbs me that i can't seem to view the dns servers <ouroumov> ? <Gallomimia> i can't poll any system to find out what dns servers it's using? <ouroumov> hm, no idea <Nosophorus> Is there any problem if I install pppoeconf in Ubuntu MATE 16.04? <Gallomimia> that's funny. i can login just fine with a guest session <Gallomimia> the heck is up with that? <Nosophorus> I mean, could it conflict with any Internet connection configuration package? <Gallomimia> oh. i bet it's cause my home dir is populated with settings already <ouroumov> Nosophorus, you've got an old dls modem? <Nosophorus> ouroumov: This modem is a Thomsom Speedtouch <Nosophorus> Almost half a decade of use <ouroumov> Problem is whatever I can find online dates back to Ubuntu v9 <ouroumov> I remember one dude on the forum mentioning pppoe and he had problems <Nosophorus> ouroumov: My worry is that pppoeconf may conflict with the nice and smooth app Xenial uses to connect and configure my connection. <Nosophorus> It simply runs smooth and by the numbers. <Gallomimia> it does? <Gallomimia> i've only been using mate for a half a day and i've found the default stuff conflicts with itself. i'm going to suggest gingerly that you'll be fine <Nosophorus> I don't know. I've just installed pppoeconf. I hope it doesn't. <ouroumov> Nosophorus, and obviously you're connected already, I don't understand very well what you want to do: set up a secondary connection using an old modem? <Nosophorus> ouroumov: I have been using pppoeconf since my first Ubuntu install (2007). I installed it just in case I need a backup method to configure my connection. <ouroumov> Gallomimia, I think your problem is with the Ubuntu base <ouroumov> Nosophorus, alright <Gallomimia> well see, the real problem i'm having is my old home still exists, with same uid and all the old files <Gallomimia> so it causes some bump when i try to login <ouroumov> Gallomimia, so why don't you move it? <Gallomimia> i'm just going to copy it all out of there <ouroumov> Yeah <Nosophorus> By the way, this new Ubuntu MATE 16.04 Xenial Xerus is much better than the previous LTS. The computer resources usage is pretty much optimized in this version. <Nosophorus> Chiefly the RAM usage has improved a lot. <ouroumov> Nosophorus, yeah there's been a lot of improvements <Gallomimia> there. <Nosophorus> One thing I'd like to see is the option to select the kind of world map used in the clock app. <ouroumov> Nosophorus, you should post your feedback in the forum <ouroumov> This place is more transient so your feature request will lack visibility here <Nosophorus> ouroumov: I'll do that. I taking note of everything I think would be useful and I'll show it to the Ubuntu MATE guys and gals. <ouroumov> ^^ <Nosophorus> *I'm taking note.. . <Gallomimia> i got one question about ubuntu mirrors. my favorite mirror is missing from the list <Gallomimia> most of the packages that get fetched come from the same set as regular ubuntu tho. what gives? <ouroumov> Gallomimia, is that abnormal? <Gallomimia> nothing's normal. i'm using a completely new system <Gallomimia> but yeah. the mirror i used to use for ubuntu was in the same city as the HQ for my ISP <Gallomimia> fast didn't begin to describe it <Gallomimia> well, nothing's fast on this ISP. stupid dsl :( <Gallomimia> but the cable company... wow it would go <ouroumov> When you say "used to" we're talking what, last month? <Gallomimia> last time i had this system running. maybe 2 weeks ago <Gallomimia> for years <ouroumov> Gallomimia, last system was 16.04? <Gallomimia> no it was 14.04 <Gallomimia> i'm consulting the site of the mirror now <Gallomimia> i think i'll drop them a mail <ouroumov> Gallomimia, maybe you can replace the mirror urls in /etc/apt/sources.list <ouroumov> After having backed it up, oc <Gallomimia> maybe. i'll not worry about it for now since the default server is saturating my link anyway <Gallomimia> as i said, DSL sucks <ouroumov> Okay <Gallomimia> but i'll be moving back to my favorite ISP <Gallomimia> and their HQ is in the same city as this mirror. the network topology favors it for sure <Gallomimia> sweet. 16.04 has properly up to date nvidia drivers in the default repos <Gallomimia> and why is grub so..... <Gallomimia> graphic-y? <ouroumov> Yeah, well, it gets updated too <ouroumov> I don't really care for it <Gallomimia> me either. cause it hangs now that i've installed those drivers. <Gallomimia> ....why?? <Gallomimia> it was working! <ouroumov> ! <ouroumov> That can't be the driver's fault though <Gallomimia> i don't get it <Gallomimia> i didn't change much else. it froze on the unlock crypto screen <Gallomimia> oh. well i did install steam. and that came with a boatload of other stuff <Gallomimia> i seem to remember having a few odd grub options in my previous setup <ouroumov> What crypto system are you using? FDE or home folder encryption? <Gallomimia> fde <Gallomimia> my LVM is inside a luks contianer <Gallomimia> recovery mode worked <Gallomimia> wish i knew why... <ouroumov> Boy I don't think I've seen anyone have as much trouble with this than you <Gallomimia> pfft. this was nothing <Gallomimia> took me 6 months to get things to run at all <Gallomimia> putting it on a raid was kinda silly <Gallomimia> now i still have to involve the ssd's as cache and swap <Gallomimia> seems pointless to have a cache and a swap that aren't encrypted right? <Gallomimia> i mean, why bother to have crypto at all if there's an unencrypted disk right there with everything you need <Gallomimia> now. let's see if the second monitor will work <ouroumov> I find having a swap at all is pointless, but well that's just me <jaime> hola <jaime> mo puedo conectarme a internat via wifi, solo via cableado <ouroumov> hi jaime <ouroumov> jaime, I don't speak that language, sorry. But I get you have a wifi problem so do that: <ouroumov> jaime, type in a terminal opened with CTRL+ALT+T the command: "lshw -C network" <ouroumov> jaime, get from the output the wifi card model and driver <ouroumov> Then google "ubuntu <model> <driver>" <jaime> thanks , I 'm looking right now <Gallomimia> hey is there any simple undelete programs installed on MATE? <ouroumov> Not that I know of <Gallomimia> accidentally started an rm on the wrong steam folder <Gallomimia> it'd be better to undelete than redownload :/ <Gallomimia> thought i saw one... <ouroumov> Filerecovery tools are never simple to use anyway <Gallomimia> yeah... <Gallomimia> wow i hate how steam does things <Gallomimia> i mean, they get the games working, but controlling things, settings, the UI, all of that is horrible. <Gallomimia> !@#!@ <Gallomimia> so annoying. <Gallomimia> oh well. seems to be working <Gallomimia> ok what's with the window managers <Gallomimia> which are "good" which are bad? <Gallomimia> i changed it to compiz, but i think that's the reason i wanted to switch away from unity <ouroumov> Use Marco + Compton <Gallomimia> thx <ouroumov> It's not heavy on eye-candy but it does the job <Gallomimia> don't really need eye candy right? <ouroumov> yup <Gallomimia> what i need is for the fullscreen apps to work :P <ouroumov> That and vsync <ouroumov> Only reasons to use a compositor <Gallomimia> and now, i just want to turn off the workspaces. can you guide me to that? <ouroumov> Gallomimia, weird, but OK <ouroumov> You should have a workspace switcher applet in the lower panel, on the right <Gallomimia> having 2 monitors doesn't really lend itself well to using more than one workspace <Gallomimia> ah, preferences <Gallomimia> ound it <ouroumov> Right click preference -> Number of workspaces = 1 <Gallomimia> great thanks <ouroumov> I have two monitors and 8 workspaces xD <Gallomimia> yeah i've tried a few systems with workspaces. it can be useful, but it sucks i find, if you want your chat on one screen and others... <Gallomimia> well maybe you can tell me how you work all that <ouroumov> Well my workspaces are basically zones in which I do stuff <Gallomimia> yeah i like that kind of thing <Gallomimia> i could get used to them <ouroumov> Programming area, ssh sessions area for server admin, webbrowsing, media, etc <Gallomimia> but i tend to use one of my monitors for dedicated things. like music, chat, steam window <Gallomimia> while my main monitor either has a game, or browser <Gallomimia> terminals can be either <Gallomimia> i'll try workspaces later sometime <Gallomimia> just because you said so :P <Gallomimia> can you lock certain windows or programs to all workspaces? <ouroumov> Yes <Gallomimia> that might become useful <ouroumov> Currently I have the IRC chat locked set so it follows the current workspace <Gallomimia> hm. need menu bar on both screens <ouroumov> I don't think you can do that in the current version of the OS <Gallomimia> that's too bad. i can't even seem to get it on my main monitor <Gallomimia> it was in monitors settings for ubuntu unity <ouroumov> Yeah it's in display settings <ouroumov> Oh actually I found a way to have other panels <ouroumov> It's not a clone though, it's a different panel <ouroumov> Right click on a panel and select "new panel" <Gallomimia> ah. neat <ouroumov> In panel properties set the orientation <ouroumov> Then uncheck "expand" <ouroumov> Then by grabbing the extremities of the panel, you can drag it where you want <Gallomimia> when i uncheck expand, there are no extremities, it disappears <Gallomimia> ah ok. before changing orientation i can move it to the other screen <Gallomimia> ok so i got a panel. i wonder if i can find some way to clone the contents of the other <Gallomimia> well, that's a lot of stuff to worry about another time i think <ouroumov> I don't think there's a way, you gotta duplicate the applets because they're assigned a panel <Gallomimia> i'll look into it another time <Gallomimia> there's a lot to set up! <Gallomimia> quassel! now i can type on my better machine. <Gallomimia> yeah things are much better <Gallomimia> heh. nuked a couple games :/ <Gallomimia> well thanks for chatting with me ouroumov. for the time being it seems things are working. tho i had to use recovery mode to boot. <ouroumov> yeah <ouroumov> I'm curious to know how that's even working <Gallomimia> oh yeah me too <ouroumov> I mean point of FDE is that it's not possible to bypass <Gallomimia> oh, it asks me to unlock it in the old text version <ouroumov> ah <Gallomimia> before it even gets to the recovery menu. then i select boot as normal <Gallomimia> i mean.... i haven't tried rebooting since then <ouroumov> Did you do a full system update / upgrade? <Gallomimia> fresh install <Gallomimia> on a new LVM <Gallomimia> so, i still have the old one, but it didn't work <Gallomimia> gave up on fixing it and decided well, 16.04 is out <Gallomimia> then i started thinking about my dissatisfaction with unity and musings about it in other channels <Gallomimia> thought, hey i'll try a different flavor while i'm at it <Gallomimia> and here i am <savalan> hello there <savalan> i have a question <savalan> is there anyone to help me please on ubuntu mate <savalan> hello lichen <savalan> how are you <savalan> too bad <fogar> sabe alguien resolver problemas audio en mac ppc g5? <alkisg> !english <fogar> tengo mate 16 ppc y me encanta ,ok <fogar> You know someone solve audio problems ppc mac g5? <fogar> I kill 16 ppc and love, ok <fogar> I have a 2 screen television 32 'and the colors are distorted, be a solution? thank you very much <alkisg> fogar: what's the output of this command? <alkisg> xrandr <alkisg> Put it in pastebin... <fogar> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2640 x 1024, maximum 4096 x 4096 <fogar> DVI-I-1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 340mm x 270mm <fogar> 1280x1024 75.02*+ 60.02 <fogar> 1024x768 75.08 70.07 60.00 <fogar> 832x624 74.55 <fogar> 800x600 72.19 75.00 60.32 56.25 <fogar> 640x480 75.00 72.81 66.67 60.00 <fogar> 720x400 70.08 <fogar> DVI-I-2 connected 1360x768+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm <fogar> 1360x768 60.02*+ <fogar> 1280x720 60.00 50.00 59.94 <fogar> 1024x768 60.00 <fogar> 800x600 60.32 <fogar> 720x576 50.00 <fogar> 720x480 60.00 59.94 <fogar> 640x480 60.00 59.94 <fogar> 720x400 70.08 <alkisg> Use http://paste.ubuntu.com <fogar> problen is dvi-i-2 <mate|7315> hi! please how to launch an application "undecorated" (i mean avoiding to see the window and scroll bars) and in a fixed position on the screen? <mate|7315> via command line? <valtteri_> Hey guys! Just installed Ubuntu MATE 16.04. I had 15.10 before, but I had messed around too much, so better start over fresh. That's why I have a few questions - if you don't mind - before I mess things up again... I use Plank and Topmenu, as I'm used to OS X, but they both have something wrong this time. Plank is missing settings file, so I can't set ShowDockItem=false. And Topmenu has no mozilla plug-in installed. How can <valtteri_> I fix these, and should I be worried something else, maybe more critical is missing too? <valtteri_> Or Mozilla has no Topmenu plug-in, maybe that way... :P <mra_> valtteri_: hmm, never heard of plank or topmenu, but good luck with that <jeff_> hi <Guest5968> hi <gordonjcp> dammit guys <gordonjcp> it's May now <gordonjcp> why isn't there a 16.10 alpha out yet? <ouroumov_> You can use the daily build gordonjcp :D <gordonjcp> yay <gordonjcp> it's more fun when everything's on fire <erkan^> gordonjcp and ouroumov_ , can you research: which is the faster: Firefox or Chromium? I had often problem with Firefox, because Firefox open and lading is slow. With Chromium is faster. I don't understand how cna that. <ouroumov_> r <gordonjcp> o_O <ouroumov_> erkan^, I don't use Chromium <erkan^> Can you test Chromium, ouroumov_ ? <erkan^> CHromium is in software centre <ouroumov_> What I know of Chromium is that it uses one separated Process or Thread (not sure which) per tab <ouroumov_> erkan^, sorry I don't want to <erkan^> Ok, I am curious to users of Ubuntu MATE which browser is the faster, ouroumov_ <gordonjcp> erkan^: I have done some research <gordonjcp> erkan^: Chromium is faster <gordonjcp> erkan^: this guy on IRC said it seemed to be faster <erkan^> Yes, I don't understand how can that Firefox is slow, gordonjcp <gordonjcp> <shrug> <gordonjcp> damned if I know <ouroumov_> <shrug> <gordonjcp> 15:13 < erkan^> gordonjcp and ouroumov_ , can you research: which is the faster: Firefox or Chromium? I had often problem with Firefox, because Firefox open and lading is slow. With Chromium is faster. I don't understand how cna that. <gordonjcp> ^ that guy says Chromium is faster <ouroumov_> This is the guy. <ouroumov_> xD <gordonjcp> ouroumov_: I didn't say I did particularly exhaustive research <michael_> hi <erkan^> Goodafternoon sir Michael_ <michael_> i need some general help with the rpi3 and sound via hdmi. or is it still a bug? <michael_> found this: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/hdmi-on-rpi-ubuntumate/1248/36 <michael_> is it up to date? <erkan^> No idea? <erkan^> hi ubuntu-mate <vok`> erkan^: Hi. <erkan^> hi vok` <TheMarius> he's ubuntus best mate <giita> why would you use chromium if chrome is also in the software centre <hid|ninja> hey <hid|ninja> has someone ever installed mozjpeg? <Nosophorus> hello, guys <alkisg> Hello <TheMarius> ok any of you guys got movit to work in kdenlive? <gordonjcp> TheMarius: do you still need to compile from source? <TheMarius> i just installed the default kdenlive package from ubuntu repositories <TheMarius> havent done anything else <gordonjcp> the movit website suggests it's still pretty experimental <TheMarius> yeah <MrBIOS> hi folks, I am experiencing a problem with gvfsd-smb-browse proess taking up 100% of CPU on initial log-on (in this case itâs on PowerPC), and was wondering if anyone here knew if that was a known issue on 16.04 <TheMarius> however if im to use this old crap pc for video editing i think i should get it enabled <ouroumov> MrBIOS! <TheMarius> its an old amd x4 3.2ghz clocked to 3.5ghz with 8 gig ram <ouroumov> MrBIOS, this is a know issue. There's a bug report on launchpad, lemme get that for you. <MrBIOS> great, Iâd like to subscribe to it <ouroumov> MrBIOS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1409032 <MrBIOS> thanks a bunch <ouroumov> MrBIOS: Thank you man. The more people marking themselves as "affected", the faster it'll be solved. <MrBIOS> ouroumov: done, bug heat is already at 100 <ouroumov> :] <erkan^> wow Claws Mail is faster than Thunderbird <erkan^> I think that Mozilla has very problem now. <swift110> hey all <erkan^> hi swift110 <erkan^> :) <swift110> how are you erkan^ <erkan^> I am fine and you too? <erkan^> Claws Mail is new for me, i am tried or I like this. swift110 <swift110> oh ok <hid|ninja> erkan^: have you used thunderbird before? <hid|ninja> it seems its development by mozilla will stop soon <hid|ninja> i also need an alternative :> <chiel> hi <erkan^> Yes sure and that is right, hid|ninja <erkan^> You can try with Claws Mail, hid|ninja <bennabiy> I just rebooted and my Advanced menu disappeared <bennabiy> I had this happen as a result of python-xlib in linuxmint 17.3 but just had it happen in 16.04 <erkan^> Or you can look in Software Center: Search: Mail, than you get a list of Mail, hid|ninja <ouroumov> Hey bennabiy <bennabiy> ouroumov: hi <ouroumov> bennabiy, maybe you can report it as an issue on mate-menu then? <ouroumov> hid|ninja, "no longer in dev" does not mean "no longer supported" <bennabiy> ouroumov: thank you. <hid|ninja> ouroumov: i trust mozilla <Dackel> Hi,how can i change the file manager? <hid|ninja> Dackel: try thunar, very good fm <ouroumov> Hi Dackel. Some dude on the forum replaced Caja with something else, maybe you can adapt his steps for the file manager you want: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/use-nemo-instead-of-caja-updated-for-xenial/4124/3 <Dackel> i decided to use gnome commander,but how i can change the settings to start gnome commander instead caja? <Dackel> ouroumov, thanks <Akuli> you mean for the desktop icons <Akuli> ? <Akuli> first you'd disable caja's desktop icons, then enable gnome commander's desktop icons :) <Dackel> thx Akuli <Akuli> arch wiki mentions disabling caja's desktop icons <Dackel> thank <Akuli> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE#Prevent_Caja_from_managing_the_desktop <duno> guys, i need some help, please! how to set up ubuntu-mate to enable audio via hdmi on the rpi2/3?? <nomic> raspi-config <nomic> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/audio-config.md <nomic> duno ^ <duno> nomic, have you ever tried "raspi-config" on ubuntu-mate? <ouroumov> duno, you can also browse the UM community forums, lots of people reporting problem with sound on rasp. Maybe you'll find a fix in there <nomic> no <duno> ouroumov, the problem is "ubuntu" (mate, lubuntu ans xubuntu) on the rpi 2/3 without any solution. xbian, also on 4.4.8+ is working fine on the rpi 2/3 with audio via hdmi. but for ubuntu, there is no solution to fix that problem ... therefore i am asking here ... maybe to fix that problem. <nomic> try it (raspi-config) <duno> there is no raspi-config on ubuntu <nomic> go to forums, ask there <duno> what forum? <ouroumov> This one: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support <duno> you mean this: "https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/hdmi-on-rpi-ubuntumate/1248" ? there is still no answer ... no about 15.10, nor 16.04 ... <duno> for that i "try" to find a solution "online" .... <ouroumov> duno, <duno> me 2 :( <ouroumov> No that's the nickname you're using dude <ouroumov> Anyway <ouroumov> duno, did you try and follow Wimpy's advice? https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/hdmi-on-rpi-ubuntumate/1248/8?u=ouroumov <duno> i am using the same (working) config.txt from my xbian on the ubuntu device no luck :( <duno> both are using 4.4.8+ <ouroumov> Yeah <ouroumov> Well, if you have the time, you should post in this thread too <ouroumov> Sorry but if no one knows, I'm sure not gonna find out seeing I don't own a rpi. :x <duno> what do you need, the config.txt? <ouroumov> ? <ouroumov> No more like just post saying you're affected by this too <duno> /boot/config.txt <duno> ah, ok <ouroumov> duno, also you might subscribe to this bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1563112 <duno> i asked the guys in #xbian for help, but they say "sorry, this is #xbian, not ubuntu ..." :( <bennabiy> ouroumov: where is the bugtracker for mate-menu <duno> ouroumov, "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1563112" is analog audio, not audio via hdmi! <ouroumov> bennabiy, actually I'm not sure. One of https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-menus/issues | https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/mate-menu/issues?status=new&status=open | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate <Akuli> Which mate-menu? <Akuli> the mintmenu fork? <bennabiy> Akuli: yes <bennabiy> The "Advanced" one <Akuli> then you should see if mintmenu also has the problem <duno> ouroumov, i do not understand that the (audio-) mixer in ubuntu is not showing hdmi as an device, only bcm2835 Analog Stereo Output ... <bennabiy> Akuli: it does <bennabiy> but I did not have this issue until just recently <bennabiy> mintmenu the issue was python-xlib <Akuli> is it still using python 2? <bennabiy> but the mate-menu was working in 16.04 with the updated python-xlib so I think it is something else this time <Akuli> i thought all the mint stuff was moving to python 3 but no... <nomic> z.z.z. <bennabiy> rebooting <Akuli> right, their menu is still python 2 and gtk 2. <mortalius> hello all <duno> is there (here) a special channel for ubuntu and rpi 2/3? <ouroumov> hi mortalius <ouroumov> duno, not according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList <duno> ouroumov, i tired #xubuntu, #lubuntu, #ubuntu-mate and #ubuntu-arm ... but no answer ... <alkisg> duno: what do you want to ask about? <mortalius> question: On ubuntu-mate 16.04: I have a bug (?) on ctrl-a (selection) -> if the selection has a endline space caracteres , then the cursor go to begin line and no selected any word. <duno> alkisg, hdmi and audio on the rpi2/3 <mortalius> i see this behavior on several application ( pluma, hexchat ..) <mortalius> +s <ouroumov> mortalius, attempting to reproduce <alkisg> duno: you don't have audio? <duno> not via hdmi on ubuntu xyz <mortalius> ouroumov, note: i configure mate with software composing <alkisg> duno: there's a setting for that in config.txt, did you see that? <ouroumov> mortalius, I'm not sure I understand the problem, so I'm not sure I attempted to reproduce correctly, do you have a test file? <mortalius> "blabla blalblala" <- selection is correct but "blabla blalblala " (with space end caract) is bug <mortalius> with ctrl-a <duno> alkisg, as i wrote, i am using the same config.txt for ubuntu as i am using for xbian. but it is not working on ubuntu. <ouroumov> mortalius, it works fine on my setup (Marco+Compton) can someone else reproduce? <mortalius> hum, i test with compton <duno> ubuntu do not show the hdmi-audio output in the mixer ... <mortalius> ouroumov, i have the bug with compton <ouroumov> mortalius, what color scheme are you using in pluma? <duno> alkisg, i am using: gpu_mem_1024=256 <duno> gpu_mem_512=144 <duno> gpu_mem_256=100 <duno> initial_turbo=3 <duno> hdmi_ignore_cec_init=1 <duno> disable_overscan=1 <duno> disable_splash=1 <duno> hdmi_force_hotplug=1 <duno> hdmi_group=1 <duno> hdmi_drive=2 <duno> hdmi_mode=16 <duno> dtoverlay=lirc-rpi <duno> and this is working fine on xbian <mortalius> ouroumov, not only with pluma, also with hexchat, firefox . I think that is not specific to pluma <ouroumov> Yeah but I'd like to reproduce and the simplest to configure is Pluma I think <mortalius> ok <mortalius> the theme is tango <ouroumov> mortalius, and pluma version is 1.12.2? <mortalius> note, sorry for my bad english, <mortalius> yes, 1.12.2 <mortalius> with a clean install <mortalius> install time is 24h <ouroumov> From the 16.04 LTS release ISO? <mortalius> ans the update are ok <mortalius> ubuntu-mate iso <mortalius> 16.04 yes <ouroumov> Hmm, I updated my two machines from Beta 2 and I previously saw a bug only affecting me but not clean 16.04 installs. Maybe this is the reverse case. <duno> alkisg, any idea? <ouroumov> alkisg, Akuli, can one of you guys reproduce mortalius's bug? <mortalius> i test to change the layout keyboard, but i have the bug again <Akuli> probably not, i still haven't managed to install 16.04 <ouroumov> mortalius, what's weird is that CTRL+A is the traditional keybinding to go to the start of a line in console-based text editors <mortalius> ok <mortalius> nb: i don't change the shortcuts config <ouroumov> What Appearance theme are you using? <mortalius> hum, i see the same behavior with double clic mouse for selection <mortalius> the default theme <mortalius> ambiant-MATE <mortalius> i logout/login for make a test <mortalius> i re <ouroumov> mortalius: yeah, still can't reproduce. Maybe post about it on the community forums? <ouroumov> ok <mortalius> re <ouroumov> re <mortalius> hmu, i use parcellite ... <mortalius> i test without it <mortalius> oh yes <mortalius> parcellite is the problem <ouroumov> Nice <ouroumov> I mean, not nice of course <ouroumov> but well done locating the problem <mortalius> ;) <ouroumov> mortalius, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parcellite <mortalius> ok, i see <mortalius> and i search an another clipboard <duno> alkisg, do you now understand where the problem on the rpi2/3 with the hdmi-audio is? <duno> analog is working fine, but mixed or only hdmi is not working. <ouroumov> mortalius, I don't see a bug report matching your specific problem with parcellite, maybe you should start one? <ouroumov> mortalius, seeing you have a well reproducible problem, this could be useful I think <duno> bye all <ouroumov> bye duno <casa> hola <ouroumov> Hello casa <alkisg> ouroumov: no, I can't reproduce the issue mortalius reports <mortalius> ok, alkisg . I think to have to find the origin: parcellite. I write now a report <ouroumov> mortalius: thanks for doing that. :) <mortalius> it's normal . <mortalius> i try to write a correct msg in english ;) <casa> ourroumov hello <mortalius> re <mortalius> ouroumov, is it possible to re-read this report (http://pastebin.com/raw/0cPsN4Vg) for english correction ? <ouroumov> mortalius, one moment <bennabiy> aklisg: I am back now <alkisg> bennabiy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1568170 caused the regression that you see <ouroumov> mortalius, here: http://pastebin.com/YNDF3ub1 <alkisg> bennabiy: the .diff is there: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/254014318/mate-menu_5.7.0-1_5.7.1-1.diff.gz <bennabiy> alkisg: hrm... but the issue just showed up. <bennabiy> that is dated back in april <mortalius> ouroumov, oh, great ... a go to send the report ... thanks <alkisg> You can see the logic there, if all those synaptic etc packages are missing, button2 is not initialized and crashes <alkisg> flexiondotorg: ^ <alkisg> bennabiy: It takes some time to go through the -proposed queue <bennabiy> alkisg: got it <alkisg> Check your /var/log/apt/history.log <alkisg> You'll see the date when mate-menu was updated for you <alkisg> If you e.g. create a symlink from /usr/bin/synaptic to /bin/true, the menu won't crash anymore <alkisg> Mention the issue in that same bug report, that it caused this regression <bennabiy> no mention of mate-menu in there <alkisg> "add software boutique to the advanced mate menu" <alkisg> this doesn't mention the menu?!! <bennabiy> no, /var/log/apt/history.log <alkisg> Maybe it was rotated an is in history.log.1 or so? <alkisg> or some other .gz history <mortalius> ouroumov, i'm a very noob :/ --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parcellite/+bug/1466796 <mortalius> date : 2015-06-19 ... old report <bennabiy> alkisg: the only references to mate-menu in my history (of any type) is pre-install (dated 4-20) <bennabiy> alkisg: I am sure it is related, but I am not sure what would have just caused it to happen (I have logged out and back in a couple times today, and at the start of the day it worked) <alkisg> bennabiy: did you uninstall any of those packages? synaptic, boutique etc? <bennabiy> alkisg: I installed sysinfo <bennabiy> I just removed it <bennabiy> alkisg: changes recent https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8869659 <ouroumov> mortalius, do you have "trim whitespace" enabled? <ouroumov> mortalius, and when you hit ctrl+a, is it copied to the clipboard? <ouroumov> mortalius, I'm not sure this is the same bug which is why I didn't mention it earlier <alkisg> bennabiy: and you've logged out etc since yesterday, or do you stay logged in for days? <mortalius> ouroumov, possible, wait and see <ouroumov> mortalius, according to your conf, you don't have "synchronize" enabled <mortalius> yep <bennabiy> alkisg: Usually I stay logged in, but I have logged out and back in a couple times today <bennabiy> It is possible that I might be remembering wrong <bennabiy> Might have been yesterday <alkisg> bennabiy: anyway, I think the code is clearly broken, and it's easy to reproduce both the issue and the workarounds <alkisg> I don't think it's important for you to remember when it started happenning of if you logged out etc <alkisg> bennabiy, flexiondotorg, the previous code didn't have the issue because it only showed Button2 if one of those apps existed <alkisg> Now it's trying to show button2 even if no app exists, and crashes <bennabiy> alkisg: agreed <alkisg> If I don't forget about it, I'll attach a patch for that tomorrow * alkisg waves * bennabiy waves <festerB> hi all, I have an encrypted usb connected external backup hdd and a known password <festerB> thing is after upgrading from linux mint to ubuntu mate the password does not work <festerB> any clues? <ouroumov> festerB, hi <ouroumov> You're using the same keyboard layout? <festerB> ouroumov: pretty sure, yes, in any case the password is composed using chars from the lower part of the ascii table <ouroumov> festerB, that's a sensible measure. Is your UM system fully up to date? <festerB> ouroumov: UM sys? <ouroumov> Yes <ouroumov> I'm pretty sure ecryptfs was updated not too long ago <festerB> ouroumov: google's got nothing on "um system" ;) <ouroumov> Ubuntu MATE * <ouroumov> Sorry <festerB> ouroumov: heh, yeah my 16.04 mate is up2date <ouroumov> festerB, you still have a Mint ISO handy? If so have you tried to mount your drive from the live session? <festerB> ouroumov: I even booted into LM 17.3 with same results - yup <ouroumov> Well, crap <ouroumov> Did you print the recovery key when you set up the hdd? <festerB> ouroumov: nop, I don't remember coming across that option even <festerB> ouroumov: I now know there is a key and it's not the same as a password <ouroumov> yeah <ouroumov> I'm sorry festerB but I'm no expert and I've already asked you all the questions I could think of <TheMarius> is there a steam repository ? i get this annoying message about updating steam <festerB> ouroumov: ok, thx, I'm taking a new full backup now <TheMarius> didnt find any at google <mra_> TheMarius: hmm.. isn't steam in some ubuntu repository.. let me check <TheMarius> it is <TheMarius> in the default <TheMarius> however the version isnt the latest obiosly <TheMarius> doesnt matter.. just wondered <mra_> hmm <mra_> i thought it has auto update too.. <mra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve links a steam.deb <TheMarius> found a kdenlive repo ... im waiting for the GPU rendering there to work ... getting a gopro at some point in the future so i want kdenlive to edit videos <mra_> http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb <mra_> hmmh <TheMarius> ah tanx <TheMarius> it said "reinstall" <TheMarius> seems i have that version <mra_> hmmh, but steam still wants you to update? interesting.. <TheMarius> anyway a amd x4 3.2 ghz with 8 gb of ram isnt exactly the best thing for video editing, but it should work <TheMarius> especially with gpu rendering <TheMarius> yep mra <TheMarius> another thing .. mate screensaver didnt work so i installed xscreensaver <SCHAAP137> TheMarius, replace the Screensaver entry in your startup applications <SCHAAP137> replace the mate-screensaver command with: xscreensaver -no-splash <TheMarius> done it .. it works fine but i just wondered if anyone else had the same problem <KerrMD> Would light-DM have an issue with transparency in Tilda? I've tried compiz as well as compton and no change. The window just turns black. <hid|ninja> hey <hid|ninja> how can i change marco transparency <kisb> marco? <KerrMD> As seen in Mate Tweak > Windows > Marco (Compton GPU compositor) <julio__> boa noite <julio__> testasndo <julio__> boa noite <julio__> boa noite <kisb> think you are interested in window border as seen in appearance > themes > customize <rajiv_> i have just install gnome software in my ubuntu-mate 16.04. How it works? I mean its not doing anything. How do i make it work? <festerB> ok, it's do slow here at the mo ;) when i edit menus and tick show games it works but games do not show up and when i go back into edit menus it's gone <festerB> how can i get games to show up in the menu? <pilne> mine are showing up just fine (steam, quake, chocolate doom/doom2) <pilne> are you closing the "control center icon" with close or the x? #ubuntu-mate 2016-05-05 <festerB> pilne: the close buttun <festerB> button^ <Gallomimia> well so far i quite like MATE <Gallomimia> could stand with a few tools to manage panels and applets i think. they're so extensive. templates and ideas for setups would be cool <pilne> there are a few in the mate tweak <pilne> hrm festerB i'm not sure what's going on then <pilne> how are you installing the games? <festerB> pilne: the usual way I guess, ubuntu software center and/or ubuntu software <pilne> hrm, when i go to system/control center/main menu. games is checked already, and all of the possible entries for it are checked as well. I didn't mess with anything from the default in this regard <festerB> pilne: same here, newish 16.04 mate install, not an upgrade <pilne> yeup, the *only* difference is that i've used the command line (apt or apt-get) for everything, but that shouldn't do fuckall really <pilne> are you using the "regular" or "advanced" menu? <kisb> how to install ubuntu tweak in 16.04 <kisb> ppa is failing <festerB> pilne: how can I check? reg v adv? <pilne> unity tweak and gnome tweak probably shouldn't be installed in mint <pilne> the panel, does it show just one icon, or "applications, places, system" <pilne> errr mate <kisb> trying to test out flatabulous theme <Gallomimia> ive looked all thru the mate tweak. lots of good options, but still need a few ideas on panel gizmos <Gallomimia> i'm pleased with the cpu clock watcher <Gallomimia> tho having an 8 core cpu makes it tough to watch them all. maybe something that showed if any were different <festerB> pilne: places, system, close to bottom, 9 other items above, 3 below, logout. lock and
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