#ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-01 <locodir-user> hey ppl - first time on irc <locodir-user> looking for ubuntu release party in canada - long gone now <locodir-user> i guess i will look elsewhere <locodir-user> bye <openiduser424> darcy - johnJ here <openiduser424> learning about ubuntu & irc <openiduser424> not sure why i am here as openiduser424 <openiduser424> and i am probably in the wrongroom <MagicFab> hi all <MagicFab> I am helping kickstart the Haitian Ubuntu LoCo <trinikrono> MagicFab: very nice , is there a loco team there already? <MagicFab> czajkowski, popey as members of the council can you accept its membership to https://launchpad.net/~locoteams ? <MagicFab> trinikrono, no, as I said I am helping :) <trinikrono> yea dont worry they will <trinikrono> once you applied the team <trinikrono> i am across in trinidad and tobago <MagicFab> I have, that's why I am here. <trinikrono> i am starting a loco here also <MagicFab> trinikrono, oh, how nice :) <trinikrono> we are almost neighbours <MagicFab> good luck then :) I am here for a week only,but we have planned a few events: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HaitianTeam <trinikrono> i was wondering how none of the other islands have no loco teams <trinikrono> i am guessing MagicFab that haiti is french speaking <MagicFab> trinikrono, and Creole <MagicFab> trinikrono, interesting question. Here no one has heard anything about any free software (except Firefox reigns :) <trinikrono> yes it is a common thing down here <trinikrono> we have a computer society that gives out ubuntu cd's though <trinikrono> so we get help <MagicFab> trinikrono, do they have a website ? I'd be curious to see that. <trinikrono> MagicFab: this is it http://www.ttcsweb.org/ <trinikrono> for software freedom they burnt copies of lucid and gave it out in a mall <YoBoY> MagicFab: if they need french cds we can provide them (low price for the other teams) <YoBoY> good morning :) <trinikrono> o/ <MagicFab> YoBoY, can you email me ? Just a quick shout so I remember https://launchpad.net/~magicfab * MagicFab - dead, must sleep <MagicFab> cheers <MagicFab> YoBoY, tx for the offer <YoBoY> No public address provided. :D <YoBoY> forced to use the lp form <trinikrono> hows the frenchies going yoboy <YoBoY> fine thanks :) <YoBoY> and for your team ? <trinikrono> well i did a ubuntu hour today, and maybe a bit of a release party <trinikrono> :D <YoBoY> great :) how many people ? <trinikrono> 4 lol <trinikrono> i am getting better <YoBoY> yes :D <YoBoY> and don't be ashame, in Paris I've also done Ubuntu Hours with 5 people :D <locodir-user> Yes <cjohnston> no? <trinikrono> maybe :D #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-02 <YoBoY> good morning <YoBoY> 901442 downloads of the Ubuntu 10.10 French LiveCD, 63000 downloads of the 11.04 edition in less than 4 days, good start :) <YoBoY> there is official download numbers ? <moylan> how do you count the folk (like me) that are downloading via bit torrent as the official download is so slow? <YoBoY> moylan: don't know, but there have to be some stats for the torrent downloads :) <dholbach> good morning <YoBoY> moylan: our numbers include the torrent downloads <moylan> but that still only covers downloads. i'll download once and install from that iso a few dozen times. also i'll copy that iso to dvd/usb device for a few people who don't have the bandwidth. <olive> moylan: we talk about downloads, not about installations or users. <czajkowski> moylan: no real idea tbh <czajkowski> moylan: we have some guesses but not an actual figure <moylan> wasn't there supposed to be an additional piece of software to count desktops? <czajkowski> moylan: of ones sold from oems <moylan> ahh. <locodir-user> la -a <mhall119> morning <cjohnston> howdy #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-03 <locodir-user> hey <locodir-user> Hello <YoBoY> good morning <Ronnie> mhall119, cjohnston: l.u.c. development looks dead, whats going on?? is uds.ubuntu.com getting higher priority or do you both have no time to develop/review/merge ? <mhall119> yes <cjohnston> yes <cjohnston> and we go through spurts <YoBoY> spurts ? <Ronnie> ah, so in a few weeks l.u.c commits wil be reviewed again <cjohnston> To make a brief intense effort or show a sudden increase in activity or speed. <cjohnston> There Ronnie.. I just did a merge <cjohnston> ;-P <Ronnie> :D <mhall119> lol <mhall119> it's a spurt! <cjohnston> I really don't have time to do anything else... I just merged in a review that you had already done.. <mhall119> now we can relax for a couple more months <cjohnston> I won't have time until after UDS... Seeing as I leave in 18 hours * Ronnie hopes he can go to the next UDS <cjohnston> +1 <cjohnston> I would love to meet everyone on the team.. <cjohnston> If you go to the next UDS, just stay at mhall119's house <mhall119> Ronnie: the next will be in the USA, this one is probably easier for you <mhall119> unless you get sponsored for the next one <Ronnie> mhall119: this one is easier yes, but im a student without that much money <mhall119> ah, definitely apply for sponsorship then <Ronnie> so, hoping for sponsorship next time. for this uds i applied also. It was a close call (reserve) but didnt make it * YoBoY should apply too... one day... <YoBoY> awesome, an android app for the uds sessions :D <olive> YoBoY: url ? <cjohnston> summit.ubuntu.com/mobile <olive> thx <YoBoY> olive: it's a generic app and you provide the content <YoBoY> seems great <olive> can't find the sources <cjohnston> ? <olive> oh hmm. ok <YoBoY> http://www.appbrain.com/app/guidebook/com.guidebook.android <olive> ubuntu loves closed software #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-04 <mhall119> olive: it's something that was available, and had been used to great success at SCaLE earlier this year <mhall119> if there was an open source solution that would give the same features for the same effort, rest assured we'd have used that <mhall119> olive: i've your interested in contributing: https://launchpad.net/summit is the AGPL'd source for summit.ubuntu.com, we'd love to have extra contributors <mhall119> pleia2: ping <pleia2> mhall119: pong <mhall119> pleia2: I'm testing out LD's ability to handle multiple teams on a single event: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/957/detail/ <mhall119> was wondering if you could keep an eye out for anything breaking <pleia2> will do :) <mhall119> since A) it's for your loco and B) you're good at finding bugs in LD * pleia2 sad at missing out on tokyo express with the fl loco <mhall119> pleia2: you can hang out with the fl loco in Budapest at least <pleia2> yes :) <mhall119> pleia2: if you go to http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/957/copy/, does the header say florida team or ubuntu california? <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-florida <pleia2> You can not add a new event for this team. You are not a member of the team or on the LoCo Council. <mhall119> okay, thanks, that's something to take into consideration <pleia2> it does give me an option for editing it, just no likey copy :) <mhall119> thanks, I filed a bug for that <mhall119> somethign we'll need to fix before we allow multi-team events <Nur> hello, anyone on? * BigWhale opens one eye. <BigWhale> :> <locodir-user> how can i make webcam to work <locodir-user> hello <locodir-user> any one free to chat <olive> please, join #ubuntu <YoBoY> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-eo crazy country list :D <daker> YoBoY, yes!! #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-05 <YoBoY> Great, French Team have just received the Natty LiveCDs, just in time before I leave ^^" <daker> Hello <daker> Ronnie, YoBoY mhall119 cjohnston nigelb http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/05/loco-directory-next-steps/ <YoBoY> great, I ready to attend to theses sessions :D <YoBoY> +am <mhall119> daker: saw that this morning <mhall119> YoBoY: will you be at UDS? <nigelb> daker: yeah, jono pinged it to me after he'd written it <daker> and You ? <daker> mhall119, ^ <mhall119> what? <daker> mhall119, you will be at UDS ? <mhall119> I will be in Budapest, but I'll be at the ISD sprint for most of it <mhall119> I will hopefully be in the LD and summit sessions at the very least <nigelb> mhall119: You have to be :-) <mhall119> so do you <nigelb> mhall119: jono's blogpost is scary amount of work :p <mhall119> nigelb: it's not all that bad <mhall119> I like the integrated wiki diea <mhall119> idea <nigelb> mhall119: Its not bad. just lots of exciting work next cycle :) <mhall119> nigelb: yup, hope you're up to it <nigelb> mhall119: OH YES. Devops is fine and all, but I love coding. <YoBoY> mhall119: i'm now in Budapest :D <YoBoY> just arrived to the appartment <mhall119> YoBoY: awesome, I finally get to meet you then <YoBoY> yes :D <YoBoY> when do you arrive ? <mhall119> sunday morning, Budapest time <YoBoY> ok #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-06 <YoBoY> good morning <YoBoY> Good morning <BigWhale> I think I need to make a room reservation in Budapest ... Or pack a cardboard box with me... :> <JanC> meh, the new CDs stink :P <jpds> JanC: The smell of newness? <JanC> jpds: yeah, well, smell of ink combined with alcohol (or something similar) I guess <czajkowski> JanC: al;ways complaining :p <JanC> I complain in jest ;*) <czajkowski> :) #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-07 <nigelb> good morning * BigWhale blinks with one eye. <YoBoY> good morning :) <toros> hi #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-08 <Andre_Gondim> may I can find planet css in any place? <YoBoY> good morning <michael_k> hello! any insight as to when Natty CDs will be shipped to LoCos? #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-09 <YoBoY> good morning <trinikrono> o/ <locodir-user> Hi all just checking out the Ubuntu Washington group, #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-10 <locodir-user> Hi Ubuntu team <locodir-user> I got a problem with wireless connection <locodir-user> could you please help me to fix it? <locodir-user> thanks in advance <locodir-user_> anybody can help the wireless problem <locodir-user_> hello <YoBoY> Good morning <nigelb> Good morning :) <wcrucius> can anyone suggest a IRC channel where I can get some package manager help? I am trying to remove pm-utils but apt says it will then remove a bunch of other core stuff (like gdm and ubuntu-desktop) for me <cjohnston> #ubuntu <wcrucius> thanks <daker> yo cjohnston #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-11 <YoBoY> good morning <daker> cjohnston: yo <YoBoY> yo daker <daker> Yo YO <YoBoY> :D <daker> YoBoY: what sessions do you attend ? <YoBoY> today ? <daker> yes <daker> YoBoY: the first boring UDS :/ <YoBoY> community roundtable, loco and laptop testing review, doc team goals this morning <daker> ok <YoBoY> colour theorie this afternoon <YoBoY> a small day for me <daker> YoBoY: good sessions always are on the same time <YoBoY> tomorow, community roundtable, community section in u.c, ubuntu membership etc..., and something else in the morning <YoBoY> and the afternoon I don't know yet <daker> what you will do if you can't any session ? <YoBoY> daker: work on loco stuff on my computer, I've not stoped the organisation of the party in paris ^^" lot of mails and answers <daker> next week there is a g|maghreb here <YoBoY> great :) <YoBoY> today at Solution Linux (a professional event open to everyone where we have a both) we sell 460 LiveCDs :D #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-12 <daker> a french edition right ? <YoBoY> yes <YoBoY> need to go to bed, tired ^^" <YoBoY> talk tomorrow :D <YoBoY> good night <daker> me too :) <daker> g'night <YoBoY> good morning <keffie_jayx> hello all <keffie_jayx> mhall119: ping <keffie_jayx> just started working on making LD send info to identi.ca <keffie_jayx> I wanted to discuss with anyone how we would like that to work <daker> keffie_jayx, mhall119 is attending the summit session <keffie_jayx> I did check out the session <keffie_jayx> it was on monday <keffie_jayx> daker: just wanted to discuss workflow with anyone really :) <daker> summit session is happening/finished right now <keffie_jayx> daker: must have been a reschedule, missed it :( <daker> yes!! <cjohnston> keffie_jayx: probably going to need to wait till next week <keffie_jayx> cjohnston: cool <keffie_jayx> cjohnston: do you know the kind of google maps api key we need <keffie_jayx> for loco -directory. It's been a while since I had mine and now it seems there are different. Maps Javascript API, Static Maps API, Maps Data API, and Web services... <keffie_jayx> looks quite confusing <cjohnston> no i dont <nigelb> keffie_jayx: can you ping me next week? I know how to unconfuse that <nigelb> (we're all at UDS) <keffie_jayx> nigelb: ok I am going to give a talk at a regional python day and wanted to have the map coolness in a local instance of LD <keffie_jayx> nigelb: I know how to get the api key <keffie_jayx> but which? <keffie_jayx> there weren't that many :S <nigelb> keffie_jayx: you don't <nigelb> if you're using maps in a web applications <nigelb> the latest one doesn't need a key <keffie_jayx> I just pulled LD from trunk, Its a web app, however the map thingi is not working <nigelb> oh, that. <nigelb> keffie_jayx: go to google maps <nigelb> keffie_jayx: older version <keffie_jayx> nigelb: I think I got it <keffie_jayx> the key does not change, it is the same for flash, xml json etc <keffie_jayx> google just wanted to give me the right snippet of code <keffie_jayx> :S <keffie_jayx> I got the key, let me see if this works <nigelb> keffie_jayx: \o/ <keffie_jayx> nigelb: thanks :) it works now <daker> keffie_jayx, Ronnie is the GMAP expert <Ronnie> keffie_jayx: no google maps key is needed anymore with the V3 API that we use for LD <Ronnie> it should work out of the box <keffie_jayx> It is working I rechecked again <Ronnie> oke great, if you have questions about the map javascript, feel free to ask me <keffie_jayx> Ronnie: thanks :) <Ronnie> some documentation about the plugin can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-django-foundations/map #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-13 <YoBoY> good morning <locodir-user> hi <trinikrono> o/ <gautam7373> can i get ubintu original disk? <nizarus> gautam7373, no, shipit is no more active <nizarus> but you still can download it for free <nizarus> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download <cprofitt> nizarus: one can still get CDs from their loco team <cprofitt> if their loco team is approved <nizarus> cprofitt, yep, but with only 250 we can't give to many people :) * cprofitt nods <cprofitt> true <cprofitt> I gave out ~200 the day after I got them <cprofitt> one IT event #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-14 <YoBoY> good morning <toros> hi <YoBoY> back in France T_T #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-15 <YoBoY> good morning <YoBoY> hey, very serious question for all locoteams <YoBoY> some of you have already cleaned the Ubuntu tablecloth ? how ? washmachine ? dry cleaning ? :D <paultag> YoBoY: wow, I actually have no idea <YoBoY> :D <paultag> YoBoY: what's the material? Nylon, cotton or something crazy <YoBoY> I don't have it, it's with another french member responsible for the event of this week <paultag> YoBoY: this needs to be documented, I did not even think of that <paultag> YoBoY: see if he can find a tag saying what it's made of -- if it has that we can figure the rest out :) <YoBoY> but 3 days of event putted some traces on the tablecloth ^^" <paultag> and instructions might be on the tag <paultag> YoBoY: +1 there!! <YoBoY> great event ... where I bookmarked the photos... <YoBoY> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lea-linux/800.716.0984/in/photostream one picture <paultag> YoBoY: that's kickass. You guys always do amazing work <YoBoY> well, we always forget to take pictures Â¬_Â¬" <toros> hi YoBoY! <YoBoY> hey toros :D <YoBoY> http://www.flickr.com/photos/naudinsylvain/800.716.0984/lightbox/ another one <YoBoY> http://ubuntuone.com/p/t2i/ last one :D <YoBoY> the cameraman in this one is from a French television :D perhaps we are going to appear on the tv :D <paultag> YoBoY: :) <paultag> OK, I'm alive. Sorry, had to do some actual work <paultag> Phew, good burn there. <paultag> YoBoY: I can't believe all these photos are not on some ubuntu-fr website... I mean, flickr? It's so ho-hum <paultag> I expected some app that showes them all in 3D <Nafallo> ...on a cube! <YoBoY> ^^ like I said, we are really, but really, like in "that'es real nobody can be worse", in taking pictures, so don't expect us to have a site to put them on :D <YoBoY> but it's on my todo list for this year <toros> re #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-16 <nigelb> mhall119, I was afraid I would make the first merge request post-UDS, looks like cjohnston beat me to it :p <cjohnston> I have done 11 merge requests today <nigelb> cjohnston, to what? <cjohnston> summit ld and lp <nigelb> lp? <nigelb> nice <cjohnston> 7 <nigelb> cjohnston, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/ical/+merge/61022 <cjohnston> ya <nigelb> this does not fix bug 783030 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 783030 in summit "Change room.name to room.title on the next sessions page (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/783030 <nigelb> or,wait <cjohnston> headings += '<th>%s</th>\n' % escape(room.name) <cjohnston> 34 + headings += '<th>%s</th>\n' % escape(room.title) <cjohnston> no? <nigelb> yeah, found it <nigelb> I hate render.py <cjohnston> dont harass me! <cjohnston> :-P <nigelb> I want to accept one part of that merge <nigelb> aaarrrgghh, why do you combine it <nigelb> now I have to review both of 'em <cjohnston> what dont you want to accept <cjohnston> cause i forgot to commit and push <cjohnston> lol <nigelb> well, the rooms thing I can accept because I know it works <nigelb> for the other one <nigelb> I'll have to test <cjohnston> the meeting page? <cjohnston> it actually still needs work <cjohnston> i think <cjohnston> wait.. <cjohnston> i dont remembner <nigelb> okay, then can you undo that work in that branch? <cjohnston> no <cjohnston> :-P <cjohnston> just test it <nigelb> put just the room.name to room.title in there <nigelb> I'm more comfortable with one bug per merge <cjohnston> uggh <nigelb> mhall119 made me do that once <nigelb> so now I feel great making you do that too :p <cjohnston> hey.. stop telling people to # their names in etherpad in the action items.. if they want to # their name, tell them to do it at the top.. im not going to edit the workitems script to support it <cjohnston> ill just make mike review it :-P <nigelb> cjohnston, just put your work items script somewhere, I'll update it <nigelb> I talked to pitti already about it <nigelb> He's fine with changing his burn down chart script <nigelb> anyway, not this cycle <nigelb> next cycle <nigelb> you have 6 whole months for it <cjohnston> theres already a bunch of changes that have been done... <nigelb> so some more won't hurt :p * nigelb runs <cjohnston> nigelb: we dont need the hash tags.. this is what it will look like, which solves the problem <cjohnston> http://status.linaro.org/u/pmaydell.html <nigelb> cjohnston, have you seen the current burndown charts? <nigelb> It also has the same feature of tracking by name <nigelb> which is awesome <nigelb> Only one problem <nigelb> Not all blueprints go into this, there are some blueprints which don't <nigelb> But having an extra hashtag in the etherpad should not hurt you in anyway <cjohnston> so put the hash tag up top, not in the action items <nigelb> No. <nigelb> The hashtag is to track an individual's work items <nigelb> its a one line fix in your regular expression <nigelb> I can do that for you if you don't have time <nigelb> But why are we talking about this now? Its for *next* UDS. <cjohnston> make etherpad search without hashtags :-P <cjohnston> I need to go to bed <cjohnston> g'nite <nigelb> good night :) <YoBoY> good morning <Braiam> YoBoY: it's still dark (but I can't see the stars ): ) <YoBoY> Braiam: south america ? <Braiam> YoBoY: caribean <YoBoY> cool, I wish I can go there one time :) <Braiam> YoBoY: for vacation sure... I live here :) <YoBoY> not good to live ? <Braiam> well... it depends... <YoBoY> hi nigelb <nigelb> hey YoBoY <dholbach> good morning <mhall119> morning <nigelb> morning mhall119 <cjohnston> hey mhall119 <daker> Yo cjohnston nigelb mhall119 <nigelb> ahoy daker! <nigelb> daker: cjohnston is inspiring all of us today <nigelb> daker: within hours of UDS, he has about 12 merge proposals <daker> LoL <daker> cjohnston, you said we need to talk about c.u.c <cjohnston> ya <cjohnston> the theme needs to be updated <mhall119> nigelb: heck, cjohnston and I were pair programming on the flight from JFK to MCO <nigelb> mhall119: darn you all :) <cjohnston> +2 <mhall119> nigelb: slacker <nigelb> I had no power or else I'd have done something <mhall119> that's no excuse <mhall119> get a pen and paper <cjohnston> +1 <nigelb> mhall119: I shall drown you today <daker> cjohnston, i am rewriting a new version, something that fits our needs <nigelb> mhall119: I'm wondering we should have weekly standups? (am I overzealous) <cjohnston> daker: of the theme/ <cjohnston> ? <cjohnston> standups? <nigelb> cjohnston: yeah, like "List what you've done, what you're working on" <cjohnston> gotcha <nigelb> it sounds like a pain, but works great on motivation :) <cjohnston> but id be on it each week :-P <mhall119> nigelb: I'd be okay with regular meeting in #ubuntu-meeting <mhall119> cjohnston: you working today? <nigelb> mhall119: I tried to avoid the pain of having to show up at X time <nigelb> mhall119: Just reply to the thread on Monday or Friday <nigelb> (I thought about meetings first) <daker> nigelb, cjohnston mhall119 did you got the link? pls it's top secret ã <nigelb> what link? <mhall119> nigelb: but we'll be recruiting new developers, so regular meetings might be good <nigelb> mhall119: aha, okay :) <mhall119> daker: I didn't see a link <nigelb> mhall119: so it will be a web team meeting or a particular app developers thread? <nigelb> s/thread/meeting <cjohnston> I'm confused <mhall119> nigelb: not sure, there's a lot of overlap currently, I think one meeting to rule them all would be helpful <nigelb> mhall119: +1 <nigelb> daker: I did this time <cjohnston> mhall119: massive fail.. why are you allowing this discussion in this channel <nigelb> cjohnston: what what? <cjohnston> more stuff we talked about <nigelb> bah, was this when you were pair programming? <cjohnston> si <nigelb> this is why next uds you should fly separate flights <nigelb> wait <nigelb> you don't have to fly next uds :\ <cjohnston> do you know how productive we were <nigelb> daker: looks greet! <nigelb> erm, great <nigelb> cjohnston: No. <daker> nigelb, mhall119 said the same ã but cjohnston said its kinda canonical-y <nigelb> daker: Ah, there is somethin cjohnston was talking about you should know <nigelb> There is a certain limit to aubergine you can use on a community website <nigelb> I don't know how to measure it tbh, but its a % <YoBoY> so noisy here today :) <nigelb> this reminds me <cjohnston> daker: I didnt say that <nigelb> mhall119, cjohnston: Do we need #ubuntu-webdev? <cjohnston> I asked if it was a new theme because of that <cjohnston> nigelb: shush <nigelb> because summit, isn't loco perse <YoBoY> guidelines are not rules, the % don't have to be precise, just the feeling of its % is enought <cjohnston> nigelb: things will be announced when things are ready <nigelb> cjohnston: what things? <cjohnston> dont worry about it <daker> cjohnston, huh <daker> you asked if it was a new theme? do you like it ? :D <cjohnston> daker: I was ack'ing that the theme is different because its canonical-y... <cjohnston> yes i do <daker> to be clair, it was made by me it was designed by mat_t and i have got some feedback from yaili ã <cjohnston> I do like it <daker> nigelb, the aubergine mean cloud if i am not wrong and not canonical <daker> s/mean/means <nigelb> daker: Ah <daker> look http://www.ubuntu.com/business/cloud/overview <YoBoY> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/ <daker> nigelb, http://design.canonical.com/brand/D.%20Ubuntu%20Web%20Guidelines.pdf <= Page 18 <cjohnston> fwiw all design guidelines will change VERY soon <daker> we should follow it <cjohnston> I know * cprofitt goes to read <cprofitt> cjohnston: is it possible to add 'after action' reports to loco.ubuntu.com... <cprofitt> I failed to make it to your UDS session so could not aks the question there... for that I do appologize <cprofitt> those are some pretty specific guidelines... <cprofitt> going to have to aks the NY web team to make some changes I think... <nigelb> cprofitt: after action? <YoBoY> the possibility to write a report after the event I think <cprofitt> nigelb: yes, after the event -- write up a small 'report' on how things went... perhaps include a picture <nigelb> technically, it should go into a blog post. <cprofitt> in the current format we end up having to use loco for schedule, but wiki for after <YoBoY> I don't think it's necessary now, but if we want to make team reports one day, this should be added at some point <cprofitt> nigelb: technically? <nigelb> cprofitt: well, we're having a blog roll kind of feature coming up <cprofitt> I used to do scheduling and reporting via the team wiki... for permanence <cprofitt> blog posts highlighted them, but fade off in to the sunset <nigelb> ah, loco approval monitoring <cjohnston> cprofitt: yes it is.. bzr branch lp:loco-directory :-P <cprofitt> cjohnston: cool. <mhall119> nigelb, daker, Ronnie: cjohnston and I talked about moving discussing of the various website dev projects into #ubuntu-website, anybody have an objection to that? <cjohnston> mhall119: I'm waiting to hear from news <cjohnston> newz <cprofitt> mhall119: sounds like a good idea <cprofitt> development there -- usage here? <cprofitt> or both there? <nigelb> mhall119: we could just do #ubuntu-webdev if they have an objection <nigelb> cprofitt: well, there are some stuff that doesn't fall here, like summit <mhall119> nigelb: we already have #ubuntu-website though <nigelb> mhall119: true <cprofitt> I agree. <mhall119> cprofitt: we'll continue to hang out here to discuss usage and feature requests and stuff <nigelb> mhall119: lets move right away * cprofitt nods <mhall119> nigelb: slow down <Ronnie> mhall119: #ubuntu-website is ok for me <YoBoY> mhall119: why not, if you want to add more project it's a good idea to be able to talk to every developpers and help to know who do what (we already are doing that on my team) <cprofitt> mhall119: cjohnston: I may have two developers interested in helping you guys... are you open to that? <nigelb> cprofitt: YES! <cprofitt> cool... <nigelb> I can do an ascii yes, but I might get kicked ;) <cprofitt> what framework are you guys working in... what languages? <nigelb> cprofitt: django + python is almost all of what ubuntu community sites are <nigelb> there is a few drupal around but thats not done by us * cprofitt nods <cprofitt> cool... <cprofitt> I will talk to them and see if they are interested... <daker> mhall119, sure ã <mhall119> cprofitt: definitely <YoBoY> so what's the new channel ? -website ? -webdev ? <coalwater> cprofitt, ok im here <cprofitt> mhall119: nigelb" cjohnston: coalwater is one of the developers I was talking to you about <mhall119> hiya coalwater <coalwater> hi mhall119 <mhall119> YoBoY: it'll be -website as long as the folks there don't mind it <cprofitt> coalwater: are you familiar with loco.ubuntu.com? <coalwater> no, i only know it's about localization <coalwater> that's all <mhall119> nope <mhall119> it's about local community teams <coalwater> hm <coalwater> ok <mhall119> it's a Django application that lists the various Ubuntu local community teams, and lets them plan events and meetings <cprofitt> it also ties in with various other resources -- like Google Maps, and image hosting services <coalwater> ok, that sounds fun lol <mhall119> shuttle's going up <cprofitt> yeah... it does <cprofitt> mhall119: cool <cprofitt> though I am sad that it is an end to an era <mhall119> too cloudy to see from here though, gotta watch on TV <coalwater> so cprofitt , i guess i should add Django to the list of my stuff im reading <mhall119> there's a good 4-part tutorial online for Django <mhall119> that's the best place to get started <mhall119> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/intro/tutorial01/ <mhall119> cprofitt: not the end yet, there's one more launch <coalwater> this is kinda close to app engine right? <cprofitt> good to see it go well... <cprofitt> I have not watched a launch since Challenger <mhall119> coalwater: I've never used app engine, so I'm not sure <coalwater> i havent either, but i think it's really close <cprofitt> coalwater: if you want to help these guys out... and it interests you... yes <cprofitt> the best part about Ubuntu Community stuff is that it is volunteer... so only do it if you LOVE it <coalwater> i was planning to do python web stuff eventually, doesn't hurt to start a lil earlier lol <mhall119> it's also very educational, we've all learned a lot by contributing <coalwater> but i might be a lil pain in the beginning <mhall119> everybody is ;) <mhall119> heck, some of us still are <coalwater> lol, ok, i guess u have +1 painful member lol <cprofitt> I think there is a great deal of potential to learn stuff coalwater <cprofitt> glad it interests you <coalwater> well, i'll get to help you, and i'll get to practice the python (which is my current goal), i guess it's good for both of us :P <cprofitt> mhall119: is there a mailing list that coalwater should join? <coalwater> https://launchpad.net/~locoteams is this ur launchpad team? <nigelb> no <nigelb> we technically use teams for commit access <nigelb> so dont need to join anything <nigelb> mhall119: do we have a "how to start"? <nigelb> A generic one that is <nigelb> coalwater: you can just do bzr branch lp:loco-directory and look at the readme inside to set it up <YoBoY> This release the pack 50 french liveCD will cost 10â¬, who want some localized live CD ? :) <coalwater> nigelb, https://launchpad.net/loco-directory ? <dholbach> YoBoY, trying again to make French the language of choice for Ubuntu? <YoBoY> dholbach: yes <dholbach> thought so ;-) <YoBoY> french rulez <YoBoY> ;) <nigelb> coalwater: yeah <coalwater> ok <dholbach> so what's "french rulez" in french? :-P <nigelb> coalwater: also, later if you can let me know which bit you found troublesome as a starter to the project, that'd be great <YoBoY> hum... it's "On est les meilleurs" <YoBoY> :D <nigelb> coalwater: then we can fix that bit for the new developers we might be able to entice into contributing <coalwater> ok nigelb , i've branched it, when i go home i'll check , dunno if i'll be able to make a python website work or not though, we'll see lol <nigelb> coalwater: Its fairly easy, though we're trying to make it easier, but that's on the wishlist for this cycle <nigelb> coalwater: Again, like I said, if there is any difficulty and if we can improve something, please let us know :) <coalwater> i've tried to make a simple file.py to work on a shared hosting before but i couldnt lol <coalwater> o and about the team question it was just to join it :D <nigelb> dont worry, there are people around to help you <nigelb> there's me, m hall119, c johnston, d aker, and R onnie who all work on this and can hand-hold you <coalwater> nigelb, why Postgresql ? <nigelb> coalwater: hrm, that's what its deployed on, but you don't have to install that for development <coalwater> just wondering, i've never used it, i only use mysql <mhall119> coalwater: for local development, it's easier to use sqlite <mhall119> coalwater: you can set your database settings in local_settings.,py <nigelb> coalwater: well, actually, postgres is pretty good as a db server. Canonical loves it apparently ;) <coalwater> do i use the same sql syntax i use on mysql? <nigelb> mostly, but not entirely <nigelb> coalwater: Anyway, don't worry about it. We don't write rodriguezcrystal@example.org. <nigelb> We use Django's ORM for database stuff, so that your database backend can be almost anything <coalwater> nigelb, , do u have any current to do lists? <nigelb> we do, but its mostly big and assigned, let me see if there's a starter bug <mhall119> nigelb: there should be some smaller things we discussed doing at UDS <nigelb> mhall119: oh, let me look again <mhall119> I thought there was anyway <nigelb> mhall119: heh, this photo has been advertised as 'UDS blazer brigade' http://i.imgur.com/WjKky.jpg <mhall119> maybe I was thinking of summit <mhall119> ha ha, nice <mhall119> I'm beginning to wonder of Emmet owns clothes with color <nigelb> if you ask him, I can tell you his reply right away <nigelb> Black is a color <nigelb> I'm fairly sure he'd say that <nigelb> mhall119: How does bug 707614 sound? <ubot4> Launchpad bug 707614 in loco-directory "wrong irc chat name when name contains a dot (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707614 <nigelb> it probably needs a new template filte though <mhall119> nigelb: he probably would, but he'd be technically wrong <mhall119> which might be a first for him <nigelb> mhall119: hrm, right. Regular expressions is not what I'd want someone new to write <mhall119> nigelb: doesn't really need regex, a simple replace will work <nigelb> mhall119: this makes me think we should really tag bugs easy or bitesize <mhall119> but making a custom template filter might be too much at first <mhall119> +1 for bitesize, we've used that in the past <nigelb> how about bug 625302 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 625302 in loco-directory "would like to see who added events (affects: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625302 <mhall119> db migration.. <mhall119> list teams by language might be the easiest <coalwater> nigelb, i would take a look , but i need to know how things works first <nigelb> coalwater: okay, in that case, first get it running <nigelb> I'll try to see if I can be awake later on to walk you through it <coalwater> what time zone are u at? <nigelb> UTC + 530 <coalwater> hm <nigelb> mhall119 is probably at a more time-zone fit location for you, and so is cjohnston <coalwater> lol <coalwater> just a simple question, is http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/307/detail/ a link on a working sample of the directory? <nigelb> coalwater: that is the production loco-directory <coalwater> i see <coalwater> seems nice lol <coalwater> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ what are the colored and grayed icons ? what's the difference <nigelb> coalwater: the colored are teams approved by the loco council, the other grayed once are not approved <coalwater> ah, might put a small thing on the bottom as an indicator :P <nigelb> Please file a bug :) <nigelb> Its a very good idea to have that info <coalwater> i just noticed that there's a note on hover , but yea a small indication on the bottom would help <coalwater> or a bar on the top <mhall119> coalwater: sounds like a good first item to work on too ;) <coalwater> yea could be lol <coalwater> kinda easy too, its just a tiny change in the view <coalwater> brb for a bit <mhall119> big things come in small patches ;) <cjohnston> mhall119: its not nice to refer to me as a pain <nigelb> cjohnston: but you are! ;) (j/k) <nigelb> cjohnston: could you forward the photos you took of me at the party? <charlie_barkin> elo <nigelb> hi charlie_barkin <charlie_barkin> I have been a Ubuntu user since Lucid <charlie_barkin> and I like the idea on unity <nigelb> glad you like it :) <charlie_barkin> It has been a wonderful experience since then. And I hope you guys there can cater to some of the photographers and videographers out there <charlie_barkin> what i love about unity is it's easeness of use and makes photography and videography life much easier <charlie_barkin> BTW I am from the Philippines. <serfus> have you checked ubuntu studio? <charlie_barkin> Yes I did, but I still stick on the main distro it self. and do a few software tweaks to get some programs I need. like gimp, kdenlive and gthumb <charlie_barkin> the main distro is pretty stable <nigelb> \o/ <nigelb> great to hear! <YoBoY> lucky guy ^^" <charlie_barkin> I ran on an intel atom desktop. with 2 gigs of ram and 320 gigs of hard drive space. <charlie_barkin> and it's feels good <charlie_barkin> people here in the philippines use mac as there primary video editing tools. but I prefer to use ubuntu because, I can get cheaper hardware and do video editing on a lighter phase <charlie_barkin> and I cannot depend on windows cause is more virus prone than ubuntu. <mhall119> nigelb: you mean the photos of you with the beer? <nigelb> mhall119: I mean the photos where I appear to be having beer <mhall119> :) <nigelb> mhall119: *appear* ;) <cjohnston> forward them to fb nigelb ? <nigelb> cjohnston: No, just email them to ONLY me :) <mhall119> lol <mhall119> somsone's Mom is on facebook <nigelb> Yeah. <cjohnston> mhall119: help me write a new type of license.. One where you are not allowed to modify however required to post to all social media <nigelb> cjohnston: haha, what happened? <nigelb> oh wait <nigelb> Now I know. <cjohnston> huh? <mhall119> cjohnston: you mean CC-ND-FB? <cjohnston> lol <nigelb> hahaha <toros> hi <nigelb> hey toros <toros> hi nigelb <toros> how is the feedback regarding unity in your loco? #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-17 <YoBoY> good morning * BigWhale opens one eye. <BigWhale> Already? :> <nigelb> morning <BigWhale> Morning nigelb <nigelb> I'll admit my sleep is still whacked out :( <BigWhale> I sleep 4-5 hrs per night so it is always whacked... :/ <dholbach> good morning <mhall119> morning <dandandrums> . <paultag> hey locoteams :) <itnet7> :-) <mhall119> hey paultags <paultag> mhall119: howdy <YoBoY> hi paultag <highvoltage> whoah it's true <YoBoY> what's true ? <paultag> highvoltage: duh, and or hellllo <highvoltage> yo <toros> hi paultag <paultag> heyya toros :) <toros> hi everyone :) <YoBoY> hi toros <YoBoY> who wants cherries ? :D http://yoboy.fr/images/2011-05-17-223421.jpg <paultag> me me! <toros> cherries \o/ * toros loves cherries * YoBoY dcc send a basquet of cherries to paultag and toros <paultag> awww, thanks :) * toros accepted a basquet of cherries <toros> YoBoY: thank you! <dsathe> is it possible to open a local chapter of a loco team ? <paultag> dsathe: sure :) <paultag> I did it :) <dsathe> like , i am from an engg institute , it is one of the countries premier engg colleges and is located away from any major loco team and is the hub of all such activities in the state <dsathe> so if we start one there it will be beneficial not just to the college but every institute in the state <paultag> for sure! <dsathe> how do i go bout doing it ? <dsathe> we have the basic support of our own campus LUG GTUG (google tech user group),etc got a repo server going , hold install fests etc <paultag> dsathe: get in touch with the LoCo that you belong to (remember they cover huge area) and get them to OK the local chapter <paultag> dsathe: we set something up for Ohio, USA like this that really really helped us get active again <dsathe> now most of the people if not all use ubuntu and its usage is growing exponentially , I being the head of the LUG thought it woyld be a great idea <paultag> :) <paultag> I think it's a super awesome idea too <dsathe> oh forgot to mention i am from BITS Pilani Goa , so Mumbai is the closest LOCo <dsathe> India <paultag> dsathe: aye, so you'd get in touch with someone from ubuntu-in and get the +1 to create the loco :) <paultag> dsathe: sec <paultag> nigelb: you here? <cjohnston> I believe he just went to bed paultag <paultag> Dang <paultag> thanks cjohnston <paultag> dsathe: let me find you their page <dsathe> cool <paultag> dsathe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam <paultag> dsathe: it looks like they already have a "fractured" setup, I'd just get their +1 and get rocking! <paultag> dsathe: or stop by #ubuntu-in :) <dsathe> Actually we have MSDN, IEEE , acm ,GTUG , and most other tech groups having their state wide HQ chapters on campus <paultag> tuxmaniac, m4n1sh, geekosopher look to be admins <dsathe> i think we need one for ubuntu :) <paultag> dsathe: :) <paultag> dsathe: give any one of those fine folks a ping and I'm sure you can work out something totally official <dsathe> :) <paultag> dsathe: cool? <dsathe> yep <paultag> awesome <dsathe> joined ubuntu-in <paultag> :) great <dsathe> guess everyone here is asleep will catch them sometime 2moro ;) <paultag> :) <highvoltage> my word this channel has lots of smiley faces <paultag> highvoltage: I overuse them. I have a theory on smily faces <paultag> I treat them like ACK packets, but with emotions. You can :( (ACK,THATSUCKS), :| (ACK,ERM-WAT), and :) (ACK,GREAT) <highvoltage> there's actually an RFC for that <paultag> highvoltage: wait, really? <highvoltage> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5841 <paultag> oh yes yes :) <mhall119> If you can think of it, there's an RFC for it <mhall119> rule 32 <paultag> this was a google april 1st joke :) <paultag> mhall119: hahaha, so true <highvoltage> don't mess with angry packets! <mhall119> does the RFC let you send emails using nothing but angry packets? <paultag> I really really really hope so <paultag> Healthy packets are happy packets you could say. <paultag> I love that RFC * highvoltage doesn't like angry packets (retransmitting packets means that my connection gets slower) <paultag> No loss, low-latency packets also makes for happy users. So the packet would be reflecting the end-user experience. <paultag> Any packet that is carrying a text joke SHOULD be marked as 'amused'. <toros> good night! #ubuntu-locoteams 2011-05-18 <nigelb> paultag: delayed pong <paultag> nigelb: don't sweat it, all taken care of <nigelb> paultag: :) <paultag> nigelb: we had someone looking to help with the -in loco <paultag> nigelb: all good now, good to go :) <paultag> nigelb: 'moin :) * nigelb yawns <paultag> nigelb: I'm working to try to clean up syn :) <paultag> I have a really cool idea that is actually pretty smart <nigelb> paultag: nice :) <paultag> I'll have 3-4 implementations of critical features in different ways, and you can choose which one it uses. I'm calling it the playbook <paultag> nigelb: ^ <nigelb> paultag: NICE <paultag> so if the recursive solution runs out of RAM, you can switch to play xyz which does it in low-memory <paultag> each will be good at one thing :) <nigelb> mhall119, cjohnston: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6/1/1296058796_HdrLgVm#1296264271_KPdNsjq <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning <toros> hi <toros> re <Arun_> hi <Arun_> I need a help <Arun_> Can anybody help me to install ubuntu alongside my current OS?? <head_victim> Arun_: I would first look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and then if you have further questions ask in a support channel like #ubuntu <Arun_> I tried to install. but to create a new partition for ubuntu, I need to repartition my hard drive. If I do so, my recovery drive will be lost <head_victim> That page has information for manually partitioning the installation which would allow you to not touch your recovery drive. <Arun_> Thanks bro * AlanBell waves about for a local friendly admin or loco-council peep <paultag> oh hai <czajkowski> AlanBell: aloha <paultag> what's up <czajkowski> there is a difference in admin and council so sup <AlanBell> I am not the team owner so didn't get subscribed to the bug for reapproval <paultag> AlanBell: ubuntu-uk, aye? <AlanBell> yup <paultag> one moment, let me see what went wrong <czajkowski> paultag: team contact team owner team lead issue <paultag> AlanBell: Michael Wood is subscribed <paultag> AlanBell: let me get you on there too <AlanBell> cool <czajkowski> hmm ask popey also <czajkowski> shouldnt it just be team contact/lead getting it <czajkowski> not owners <czajkowski> or we're going to end up in a pile of mess <paultag> AlanBell: all set, bug 784663 <ubot4> paultag: Bug 784663 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/784663 is private <AlanBell> thanks <paultag> AlanBell: cheers :) <AlanBell> popey can see it anyway <paultag> czajkowski: yeah I mentioned that in the mail and told them to just ask the LP owner. Since it's in the LP system, it's actually not worst case <paultag> AlanBell: +1 to that <czajkowski> paultag: it's a rare issue I suspect... but reason a few teams could slip through <paultag> czajkowski: in the morning I'll go through and try to track down teams in that situation <paultag> czajkowski: I'll just go through the LD and pull up contact lists. <czajkowski> paultag: so locolint pulls what from where <paultag> czajkowski: locolit only uses LP <paultag> czajkowski: it files a bug, and subscribes the team owner on LP <czajkowski> hmm ok <popey> hello hello hello <popey> what's all this then <czajkowski> 18:41 < AlanBell> I am not the team owner so didn't get subscribed to the bug for reapproval <czajkowski> 18:41 < paultag> AlanBell: ubuntu-uk, aye? <czajkowski> 18:41 < AlanBell> yup <czajkowski> 18:42 < paultag> one moment, let me see what went wrong <czajkowski> 18:42 < czajkowski> paultag: team contact team owner team lead issue <czajkowski> 18:42 < paultag> AlanBell: Michael Wood is subscribed <czajkowski> k <pleia2> are all the teams familiar with the reapproval process? the lp bug doesn't actually tell you what it's about <pleia2> and is the approval application and update to the original approval app, or a new one altogether? <paultag> pleia2: we don't mind, either ways works. And you're right, we should blog a bit more about how the process works <pleia2> ok, thanks :) <pleia2> and not everyone reads the planet, so I'd suggest linking to some documentation in the LP bug itself <paultag> pleia2: I agree totally, as well as another mail to the contacts <paultag> we might have a wiki page, speaking of <pleia2> probably :) I didn't poke around to look for one <paultag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval <-- I'll update this and link <paultag> thanks pleia2 :) <pleia2> cool, thanks :) <paultag> no problem <mhall119> oh sweet, double-tapping Super+[1-9] will scale out just those windows * mhall119 finds another reason to like Unity <czajkowski> paultag: pleia2 no a new application <czajkowski> marked re application <czajkowski> that way flks can trace history of team <paultag> OK, I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval to include O-series <paultag> I'll post that on the reports and update locolint to do that automagically <popey> so everyone will get bugspam with that link in? :) <popey> ACE! <popey> </sarcasm> <popey> ^^^^^ for the people with defective sarcasm detectors <paultag> Oh chrud :) <czajkowski> I've just removed the point of contact bit <czajkowski> god damnit <czajkowski> internal wiki server error <czajkowski> again <paultag> OK, sorry for the mail :) <paultag> I think <paultag> not sure if updating description mails or not <paultag> Oh yep, there it is <cjohnston> paultag, czajkowski, itnet7, what is going to be done about getting team names consistant <czajkowski> cjohnston: baby steps <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's on a to do list <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's clearly a pet peve for you <czajkowski> but also a contentious issue <cjohnston> it makes LD look bad <cjohnston> and hard to read <YoBoY> cjohnston: can we just put Country (team names, ...) in the team list ? this way the list never change on team name changes <cjohnston> I don't understand <YoBoY> the team is organised by continent, right ? <YoBoY> (team list) <cjohnston> yes <czajkowski> cjohnston: I'm not arguing about this again with you :) you know how I feel about it, but its a case of getting teams to change their display name <cjohnston> czajkowski: make it a requirement for reapproval. done <YoBoY> we could orginse it by continent and country <czajkowski> cjohnston: majority of the offenders are the usa teams <czajkowski> cjohnston: again not as simple as thta <YoBoY> and display the country names <czajkowski> cjohnston: add it to our agenda item for discussion <cjohnston> YoBoY: by your own admission, your own team is not limited to a country but a language, so how would that work <czajkowski> see <mhall119> YoBoY: so which country/continent should we put ubuntu-fr in? <czajkowski> this is why this is a topic for meeting <YoBoY> and to see wich team is on the country we add the names in parenthesis <czajkowski> not just in here <czajkowski> *sigh* <mhall119> personally, I don't think it makes LD look bad <YoBoY> cjohnston: yes and i'm really not abusing of that on the loco directory, I only declared Franche <YoBoY> France <AlanBell> why would anyone ever care what someone else's loco team name was? <cjohnston> I think it makes LD hard to read <YoBoY> mEurope > France <cjohnston> AlanBell: uniformity <YoBoY> mhall119: Europe > France <mhall119> YoBoY: +1 <mhall119> :) <YoBoY> I always said, our events, real ones, are on France <mhall119> I think once we add more active content, the team list format won't matter as much <cjohnston> YoBoY: then reaname your team to France.. If I'm looking for a team for France, or Paris, I'd never think to look for -fr <YoBoY> our online activities it's different, they are langage based <YoBoY> if you want I can ask to have ubuntu-paris ubuntu-lyon ubuntu-dijon approved loco teams :) <AlanBell> most of them are ubuntu-CC so I would expect france to be -fr <mhall119> cjohnston: is anybody actually having a problem finding a loco team because of the name formatting? <AlanBell> but I really don't care what france is doing, nobody in the UK will be looking for the -fr loco team <cjohnston> mhall119: I don't know <YoBoY> mhall119: btw, if you open google in a french, and search ubuntu, you find ubuntu-fr.org <cjohnston> YoBoY: theres nothing wrong with that.. we have a chicago team <mhall119> YoBoY: if you search for either "french" or "france" in LD, you should get the -fr team too <YoBoY> yes <mhall119> ok, gotta pick up kids, bbl <paultag> cjohnston: we need to clean up display names and URLs IMHO <cjohnston> If you look at the teams list, there are two sets of alphabetical teams.. one that starts with ubuntu, and one that doesnt <mhall119> paultag: you know where to submit patches ;) <cjohnston> paultag: +3 <cjohnston> wait.. are you talking about in loco directory or the teams doing it in LP paultag <AlanBell> personally I think the map at the front adds very little value as it just takes you to an anchor tag on a big list <AlanBell> clicking europe should zoom
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