#ubuntu-za 2010-11-18 <nuvimob> hi peeps, is there a skype-irc gateway somewhere? <superfly> nuvimob: I doubt it <drubin> nuvolari: http://vmiklos.hu/project/bitlbee-skype/ <corrie206> hallo hallo, whats this then?? :) <Maaz> corrie206: By the way, zerlgi on freenode told me "tell corrie206 Life's unfair - but root password helps!" 23 minutes and 45 seconds ago <corrie206> thank you Maaz <nuvolari> drubin: thanks! <drubin> nuvolari: Not sure if it works and you need the skype daemon running... (same with pidgin( <nuvolari> drubin: hmm, I see ya. A bit of a bummer though <drubin> nuvolari: it is against their tos to connect directly to their servers AFAIK <drubin> fring kinda got into trouble.. but that could have been the ads or soemthing <superfly> they have an encrypted proprietary protocol for a reason: so that no one else can get on their network and make use of their services <drubin> and here I thought it was because they were nice. <superfly> hahaha <Kilos> night all. sleep well #ubuntu-za 2010-11-19 * nlsthzn lurks in semi-silence <nlsthzn> well, my penultimate night shift is now coming to a close... have a good one all and catch you later :) <Kilos> morning superfly and anyone else awake <superfly> morning oom Kilos <nlsthzn> morning all :D <nlsthzn> ... or I should say night all... just about on my way to bed <Kilos> night nlsthzn <Kilos> sleep well <nlsthzn> :) thanks <sakhi> mooning <Kilos> hi sakhi <oomkoos> good morning people <superfly> morning oomkoos <Kilos> morning oomkoos <oomkoos> hi superfly, Kilos. How y'all today? <Kilos> good ty <Kilos> and you already said good morning so things must be fine there too <oomkoos> well it is indeed Friday so there is no reason it shouldn't be g-g-goood! :) <Kilos> lol <Kilos> you gotta work on the stuttering <Kilos> hehe <oomkoos> lol i'll see if I can find an eHow hehe <inetpro> good morning <Kilos> hi inetpro <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand <Maaz> Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, thanks you my buddy <Maaz> Kilos: np <Kilos> Maaz, koffie asseblief <Maaz> Eish Kilos Die engelse het tot ons boeretroos oorgeneem. Vra asseblief in engels. <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, dankie <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend * inetpro lol <Kilos> Maaz, hoe gaan dit <Maaz> Baie goed dankie Kilos Werk net hard met julle wat pla die hele tyd <nlsthzn> Hi all <inetpro> superfly: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2010/11/como-cambiar-de-cancion-en-un-n900.html <superfly> inetpro: thanks... though I don't have headphones with those buttons <superfly> hi nlsthzn <inetpro> ok <nlsthzn> superfly: hello, you guys still on your epic n900 missions? <superfly> nlsthzn: mission? what mission? I'm just enjoying using it <superfly> OpenArea on my N900 takes a little getting used to, but still lots of fun to play :-D <nlsthzn> superfly: basically what I mean :) <nlsthzn> seems it doesn't matter what colour ubuntu chooses it is wrong http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/community_posts/bizarre_cathedral_87 <Kilos> night all <superfly> fp <nlsthzn> ? <wedwo-> finished pap <nlsthzn> lekka * nlsthzn lurks #ubuntu-za 2010-11-20 <nlsthzn> catch you all later *waves* <Kilos> Morning all <superfly> morning Kilos <Kilos> hiya superfly <nlsthzn> hi all <Kilos> hi nlsthzn howzit <nlsthzn> Kilos: Good good and there? <Kilos> fine ty <Kilos> nlsthzn, if you get the energy some time here is an offer from blender. <Kilos> http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CDEarthLLC/0ed7c9c02b/4b8c24c41e/c4fb9b38b8 <Kilos> i havent looked whats involved <Kilos> im getting tuterage every evening <nlsthzn> cool, will have a look... so your skills improving? <Kilos> lol i forget what i learned the day before but so far its an awesome program <Kilos> i hear they made a movie called Sintel with it <nlsthzn> sintel is awesome... also check out elephant dream and also big bunnies day out (or something like that) <nlsthzn> the link you sent re-directs me here http://www.cdearth.com/ ?? <Kilos> i cant see movies on here <Kilos> yes i got it from blender with a offer of free cds <Kilos> i think the cds are add ons for windows users <nlsthzn> oh, ok... where is here that you are movie-less? <Kilos> on my pc <Kilos> too slow and data min <Kilos> cant stream music even <Kilos> comes in bits and pieces <nlsthzn> ah... that was my bane in SA... lack of cap... very spoiled with no cap <Kilos> yeah <nlsthzn> irony is the UAE is by far the most expensive in telecommunications in this part of the world, and I get 8mbps line, no cap for +-R600.00 a month if I convert, which you shouldn't so it is actually closer to R300... and the people here moan... in india you can get twice that speed for a quarter of the price <Kilos> wow <Kilos> we ripped of something terrible here <nlsthzn> too true! * nlsthzn-away is away: Gone away for now * nlsthzn is back. * nlsthzn-away is away: Gone away for now * nlsthzn is back. <nlsthzn> autoaway off, sorry for spam <Kilos> lol <nlsthzn> some other channels the people where not lolling :( <Kilos> yeah they not lovable like me * inetpro thought he was playing with us <inetpro> like hide and seek <Kilos> and its nice to see others make mistakes too <Kilos> lol hiya inetpro <nlsthzn> crap, again :/ <inetpro> Kilos: hi :-) <inetpro> nlsthzn: just stay in the room and we won't notice when you are gone <Kilos> i have tackled a major job inetpro made for geeks and kids <Kilos> blender <Kilos> get lessons daily in the late avy <inetpro> Kilos: nice <Kilos> no man its hard work <Kilos> but what a great program <inetpro> Kilos: you can do it <Kilos> i hope so just its taking long to remember all the hotkeys and what they do <Kilos> whole new venture for me <inetpro> Kilos: sounds like fun <Kilos> yeah baie lekker <Kilos> you got ability to watch movies online look at Sintel <Kilos> it was made with blender <Kilos> maybe from work better <Kilos> i dunno how big it is <nlsthzn> Kilos: the movie is only about 15 min long, but the HD version is big (but worth it) <Kilos> ah ty. <Kilos> will see if i can get someone to download it for me some time <nlsthzn> I can... but getting it to SA is the issue... in fact should not be to much of an issue... I could do some major downloading and burning if you peeps are interested ;) <Kilos> its the postage thats expensive lad <nlsthzn> don't know... but my daughter is coming to visit in December, going back to SA in January... so who needs postage ;) <nlsthzn> Maaz: tell kilos postage not a problem, will have somebody goign to sa in january <Maaz> nlsthzn: Righto <Kilos> sorry msn made pidgin sick and pc hung <nlsthzn> :/ I wonder, I told Maaz to tell kilos something, but i see your nick is Kilos so I guess that isn't going to work <Kilos> i got it ty <Kilos> it works <nlsthzn> lol, k cool <Kilos> only he gives me weather updates in private <Kilos> lol <Kilos> nlsthzn, where in sa are they going to <nlsthzn> joburg... but once is SA postage should not be an issue <Kilos> whats the movie about\ <Kilos> ? <Kilos> i dont watch many animated movies <Kilos> im to old <Kilos> or stupid <nlsthzn> it is more a proof of concept really... pushing the boundries of what can be done with free software... it is about a girl and a dragon... most people cry at the end... <Kilos> oh. might be good to see then <Kilos> will be grateful for a copy ty <nlsthzn> ... well... think of anything big on the net that needs downloading and let me know before Jan and I can get it on disc ... <nlsthzn> or on a cheap USB <Kilos> thanks will do <Kilos> how about the whole of microsucks then i can bury them <nlsthzn> don't know about that... <Kilos> yeah the rest of the world will collapse <Kilos> give old bill his dues. hes done a great job of controlling everything just about <nlsthzn> he saw a gap and took it... <Kilos> yip <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand <Maaz> Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet <nlsthzn> lol <nlsthzn> I despise KDE... I suspect I will be going back to gnome very quickly <Kilos> lol <Kilos> you gonna make some friends and lose some <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> i tried it and couldnt even get online <Kilos> gnome is friendly to me <Kilos> but then , so are the kde users <nlsthzn> ... my problem at the moment, the network manager not working for me, so I am told try the plasmoid... just installed it AFAIK but I can't find it :/ <Kilos> yeah ask inetpro or superfly <Kilos> they have worked it all out i think <nlsthzn> hmmm.... wonder if it works the same in openSuSE than Ubuntu...? <Kilos> ? <Kilos> did you ask maaz to google it for you <Kilos> there must be info already up there inna sky <nlsthzn> lol, been googling and IRC ing a bit... <Kilos> what do you actually google for <Kilos> i dunno what to google for a prob like that <Kilos> or is it a prob in your area <nlsthzn> ... first tried figuring out way network manager not working, get the short answer" it sucks"... <nlsthzn> they say use the plasmoid... <nlsthzn> final find one I think is the right one... <nlsthzn> install <nlsthzn> now I don't know how to run/see it :/ (I lack KDE skills)... I thought it would be a widget... but it isn't there <Kilos> eish <Kilos> inetpro, coooo weeee <Kilos> they all weekend off <Kilos> Maaz, google how to run kubuntu network manager <Maaz> Kilos: "VPNClient - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "NetworkManager - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "[kubuntu] wpa_supplicant options and NetworkManager - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763422 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Kubuntu 9.10: Stable, Social and Beautiful | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "PySnippet: Network man <Kilos> i dunno if that will help <nlsthzn> Kilos: thx for the assistance :) <Kilos> did it help? * Kilos shocked <nlsthzn> no <Kilos> lol <nlsthzn> not yet anywat <Kilos> hehe <nlsthzn> *anyway <Kilos> sorry <nlsthzn> no prob, I switched distro and DE... silly I was <Kilos> i am sure the fly or the pro will be able to help <nlsthzn> no prob <Kilos> they both kde lovers <nlsthzn> it isn't just KDE, the way it looks etc. the apps too... don't like :/ <Kilos> ah <nlsthzn> me going to do a windows thing and reboot :p just because maybe :D <Kilos> lol <Kilos> night all. sleep tight #ubuntu-za 2010-11-21 <Kilos> morning all <superfly> morning Kilos <Kilos> hiya superfly you all well? <superfly> ja <Kilos> good <nlsthzn> morning all... just had an awesome success with linux, printer/scanner just plugged in and it auto-detected and just works, still stunned :D <MPD> what brand? <nlsthzn> MPD: Oh an HP (Photosmart) <MPD> HP yeah <MPD> I like them <MPD> my printer also just works <MPD> run hpsetup and click a few buttons <drubin> tumbleweed: Should we file a bug against python-apt to add the SA repo's? <drubin> ftp.wa and sun.ac.za (though I see this as being a silly idea) <drubin> ok sun.ac.za is there already <drubin> Maaz: ubuntumirrors <Maaz> drubin: *blink* <drubin> Maaz: ubuntu mirrors <Maaz> drubin: ubuntu mirrors are http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/, http://ubuntu.saix.net/, http://mirror.is.co.za/, http://ftp.wa.co.za/, http://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/ * drubin is starting to think registering wa's mirror was a bad idea ;/ <nlsthzn> MPD__: sorry for crashing out earlier... yup, even got an HP control centre like windows... that all standard without installing anything extra <maiatoday> corrie206: inetpro ubuntu hour in pretoria, the streetlevel shop is closed but there is a vida if you just go up the stairs <drubin> maiatoday: Did any one else say they were comming? <maiatoday> 3 people, I sent them email and mailed the list. <maiatoday> I'll go down to the closed shop at 4 ust incase <maiatoday> jay first person is here <drubin> maiatoday: ;) glad now I am out <maiatoday> well anybody who is not having a sunday afternoon nap and who is in the brooklyn area, we are at the vida in the design square * nlsthzn waves from far away and wishes he could be there <drubin> superfly: ping about planet feed on ubuntu-za maia's feed seems very very wonky <superfly> drubin: yes, it is. it's blogger's fault <superfly> blogger/blogspot.com <drubin> superfly: It doesn't seem to be ;/ looking at the rss feed <drubin> http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default <drubin> in there it is correct but on our list it seems funky <superfly> drubin: perhaps blogpost has fixed their feed <drubin> maybe.... but it has happened a few times before. <drubin> with a few peoples feeds. <drubin> ok only really maia's <superfly> drubin: what's the problem currently, the links seem to be fine? <superfly> hrm <superfly> they were a moment ago <drubin> superfly: Ubuntu Hour in Pretoria links to http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2010/03/globaljam-poster-version-21-afrikaans.html <drubin> see something is kinda funky <drubin> all her links link to the same thing <drubin> s/links/title links/ <superfly> fixed <drubin> superfly: what was wrong? <superfly> there's something funky with either the Atom feed or the aggregator module <drubin> superfly: So what did you do? <superfly> so I just used the RSS feed, and then cleared and re-ran the feed importer <drubin> ye think there might be something dodgy there because she is the only one on rss I think <drubin> Maaz: superfly ++ [Fixing blogs and feeds] <tumbleweed> drubin: what has python-apt got to do with sa repos? <tumbleweed> if you want sa repos in "software sources" they must be registered on LP and request "official" status <drubin> tumbleweed: Ye I reported a bug.. and was told that. ; <drubin> tumbleweed: data comes from /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors so I assumed it was python-apt :) <tumbleweed> aah cool <drubin> tumbleweed: I registered ftp.wa.co.za but now thinking I should have asked them first <tumbleweed> hrm I think I've registered other ZA mirrors in the past <tumbleweed> you can hand them over easily enough <tumbleweed> yes, drop them a mail, they are relatively nice <tumbleweed> sorry for the delay, /me is in the middle of nowhere in the karoo <drubin> tumbleweed: No worries. do you know the WA contact? <drubin> else I will emails morgs to ask him he seems to have set it up./ <tumbleweed> drubin: PM <tumbleweed> I think I found him via launchpad. You sure it wasn't already registered? <drubin> tumbleweed: No it wasn't registered. <tumbleweed> hmm, wonder how I found him then <drubin> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ftp.wa.co.za-archive <drubin> see I created it <drubin> I will email him tomorrow asking him. <drubin> because it is on the freezone it is awesome to have it officially listed <tumbleweed> yeah <tumbleweed> it is relatively well connected too, I swear I got > 100Mbps from it <tumbleweed> did you add their cd mirror too? <drubin> no. <drubin> i kinda didn't really know what I was doing and only found the docs after I submitted it <inetpro> eish <drubin> inetpro: ? * inetpro so forgot about maia[tab]'s ubuntu hour <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on * Maaz flips the salt-timer <inetpro> will need a cup of Maaz's coffee to get over this one <inetpro> what's with the ubuntu-za rss feed? <inetpro> or is it the planet? <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro! <inetpro> Maaz: thank you sir <Maaz> inetpro: not at all <superfly> inetpro: no, it was just maiatoday's feed that was messed up <superfly> and subsequently fixed <inetpro> superfly: great, thanlks <inetpro> was wondering about it since it happened a few times now that we got the same old news again and again * inetpro was afk for quite some time this weekend <Kilos> fp <Kilos> night all . sleep tight #ubuntu-za 2010-11-22 <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and others <nuvolari> Kilos: mÃ´re oom <Kilos> more nuvolari gaan dit goed <nuvolari> ongelukkig nie oom :( Die projek waaraan ek werk kry my onder <Kilos> eish <Kilos> moed hou seun <corrie206> morning all <Kilos> morning corrie206 <nuvolari> ek probeer oom, moed wil my net nie meer hou nie :P <nuvolari> lo corrie206 <nuvolari> ek moet gaan klaarmaak <nuvolari> tjirz <Kilos> verstaan jy dit net nie of is dit te veel werk? <Kilos> k <superfly> morning oom Kilos <superfly> up *really* early this morning <Kilos> yeah debs gets home from work at out 5.30am today <Kilos> so i try be online <Kilos> gets/got/ <nlsthzn> morning all <Kilos> hi nlsthzn <nlsthzn> Kilos: How are you? Did you attend the Ubuntu hour yesterday? <Kilos> nope. i kinda home bound. would have loved to meet the guys <Kilos> but thats life <nlsthzn> true <Kilos> how you doing <nlsthzn> ok, had two days off... four at work then I am on leave for a few weeks... can't wait :D <Kilos> great <Kilos> i have a small problem guys. kinda hard to explain but i will give an example <Kilos> often i find certain goodies are working as well as they should and if i go to synaptic and do a reinstall the it downloads a few k and all works again <Kilos> till i boot the next day <Kilos> seems like dpkg is installing to the front door but once the door is closed for the night it is forgotten <Kilos> i have found quite a few packages doing this. especially lib files <Kilos> might still be backlash from my chown fopar where tumbleweed had to write me a script to get permissions back in order <Kilos> its like dpkg is allowed in to the kitchen from the back but not into the lounge <Kilos> if that makes sense <Vhata> 'faux pas' :P <Kilos> yip. massive one * nlsthzn is confused (nothing new) <Kilos> you were gone <Kilos> why you confussed now <nlsthzn> just catching the last of your conversation with Vhata and it makes no sense :p not that it should I guess :D <Kilos> you were offline for the start <Kilos> i will paste it <Kilos> its like spam <nlsthzn> no need :) <Vhata> he wasn't offline <Vhata> 08:49 -!- nlsthzn [c3e5f236@gateway/web/freenode/ip.707.728.7583] has joined #ubuntu-za <Vhata> 08:50 <Kilos> might still be backlash from my chown fopar where tumbleweed had to write me a script to get permissions back in order <Vhata> you spelt it 'fopar'. It's "faux pas", borrowed from French <nlsthzn> got that bit... <Vhata> Maaz: translate faux pas <Maaz> Vhata: stumble <Vhata> literally means "don't do" <Kilos> oh sorry <nlsthzn> ah <nlsthzn> silly french <Kilos> Maaz, define faux pas <Maaz> Kilos: faux pas \faux` pas"\ (f[=o]` p[.a]"). [F. See {False}, and {Pas}.] A false step; a mistake or wrong measure; especially, a slip or misstep in social etiquette; a blunder in conduct or manners that causes embarassment; as, he committed the faux pas of mentioning John's former wife. [1913 Webster +PJC], faux pas n 1: a socially awkward or tactless act [syn: {faux pas}, {gaffe}, {solecism}, {slip}, {gaucherie}] <nlsthzn> I made a faux pas :D <Kilos> i also made a faux pas <nlsthzn> I should go away before you taunt me a second time <Kilos> here is the link for the clever fellas that are here yet <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s206tIvvZw <Kilos> reinstalling lucid is not an option <nlsthzn> hmmm I am too much of a noob to know :/ I usually re-install if all else fails (but you say it is'nt an option) <Kilos> yeah bandwidth <Kilos> or i would have done it when i made the "Faux Pas" goodie <Kilos> hehe <nlsthzn> gotcha... SA needs a few good internet cafe's... one thing that is good in UAE, enough cheap net cafe's <oomkoos> morning people <Kilos> morning oomkoos <oomkoos> how you Kilos? <Kilos> well ty, and you <oomkoos> good thanks. Monday though.. ugh.. <Kilos> lol <nlsthzn> lol, here monday is tuesday <oomkoos> lol closer to Friday then for you <confluency> Morning <Kilos> hi confluency <nlsthzn> working shifts I guess the allure of friday or the bane that is monday doesn't affect me <nlsthzn> confluency: Hi :) <Kilos> what i missed. storm killed connection <inetpro> hiho * inetpro wondering what to get for lunch * inetpro enjoyed an incredible Kentucky Tower meal <Vhata> bad idea. <inetpro> Vhata: well with the massive shower of rain that we just got maybe I should have gone out to buy this a long time ago <Vhata> inetpro: read the last ten tweets on http://twitter.com/vhata (from the bottom up) * inetpro not sure I understand Vhata's point <Vhata> what did you learn from the tweets? <inetpro> Vhata: they don't really look relevant to me <Vhata> you didn't answer my question <inetpro> 1st one being http://twitter.com/vhata/status/2329194595885056 <Vhata> no, tenth from the top is: <Vhata> Maaz: http://twitter.com/#!/vhata/status/6404651356262400 <Maaz> Vhata: Huh? <Vhata> Maaz: http://twitter.com/vhata/status/6404651356262400 <Maaz> Vhata: vhata: "The Searing Pains would be a good name for a band if they weren't what I was having in my stomach/chest right now." <inetpro> ahh <Vhata> inetpro: I was in agony all weekend, just been to the doctor, and he thinks it's gallstones <Vhata> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholecystectomy <inetpro> eish <Vhata> "Numerous small gallstones, composed largely of cholesterol" <Vhata> enjoy your Kentucky Tower Meal? :P <Kilos> Vhata, you need another doctor <Kilos> he thinks it's gallstones <Kilos> they can scan and tell you exactly whats up <Vhata> you think I should keep going to different doctors until one diagnoses "the sniffles"? <Kilos> no man that ultrasound thing can see stones <Vhata> yes, I'm having one of those at 3pm <Kilos> ah <inetpro> Vhata: yep I really enjoyed that meal, fortunately I do not have it every day <inetpro> Vhata: but man, I'm sorry to hear about your pains <inetpro> hope they can help you <Kilos> they can cut and remove or shatter them with lazer or something i think <Vhata> heh, thanks <Kilos> not pleasant <Kilos> good luck. hope its not too serious <Kilos> somewhere inna back of head htere is a niggling thought that you can eat or drink something to help them dissolve <Kilos> will ask sis when she gets home <Kilos> maybe i thinking of kidney stones <Kilos> dont wanna make another fopar ( faux pas) <nlsthzn> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODgwMQ linus is a bit miffed :) <Kilos> Vhata, if it is gall stones you can eat lots of radishes. 2 to three bunches a day <Kilos> and red grapes <Vhata> and sweet potato for HIV? <nlsthzn> lifeboy soap <Kilos> lol <Kilos> no man im serious <Kilos> within 3 weeks they will be gone <Kilos> my maverick cd has arrived from shipit <Kilos> yoo hoo <nlsthzn> sweet * inetpro loves sweet potato * nlsthzn does his best Vanilla Ice impersination "Go ninja go ninja go! Go ninja go ninja go. Go! Go! Go!" <Cantide> '< <Kilos> '< <Cantide> hi <Kilos> whatever that might be <Kilos> afternoon <Cantide> it's either pacman, or biting <Kilos> dont bite. it hurts <Cantide> oh ._. <Kilos> lol howzit <Cantide> good good '< <Cantide> avoiding work by using IRC <Cantide> u? <nlsthzn> lol <Kilos> i live here <Cantide> :p <Cantide> hey nlsthzn <nlsthzn> hello Cantide, how are you? <Cantide> alright... * Cantide checks limbs <Cantide> yep, quite well <Cantide> yourself? <nlsthzn> all limbs acounted for too :) <Cantide> aah '< <Cantide> suddenly i have a question '< <Cantide> does anyone here use pidgin for YM / MSN ? <Cantide> mine seems to be broken :| <Cantide> perhaps i just need a new version '< <Kilos> yip <Kilos> i pidgin lots <Cantide> '< <Kilos> there is also #pidgin but you wait some there <Kilos> whats the prob Cantide <Cantide> it won't connect to YM or MSN anymore <Cantide> i know it's been fixed for YM in newer versions <Kilos> i use pidgin for msn aim mxit and gtalk <Cantide> but my MSN just broke recently <Cantide> yeah, mine still works fine for gtalk :) <Kilos> did you try a reinstall in synaptic <nlsthzn> only reason I used to use pidgin was for mxit... now no more need... not that empathy is brilliant or anything but it works <Kilos> or another msn address <Kilos> empathy doesnt have otr nlsthzn <nlsthzn> otr? <Kilos> off the record or private <Kilos> its a pidgin special <Kilos> works better than otr on irc <nlsthzn> oh... k, never needed it before I guess <Kilos> good not to have secrets <Kilos> lol <Kilos> methinks its good for spies <Cantide> :D <Cantide> sounds good for me :) <Kilos> and clandestine ops <Cantide> let me play with synaptic a bit and try a reinstall <Kilos> good luck <Kilos> i hate it when things break on thier own <Kilos> but msn has been giving probs for 3 days <Kilos> had to use 3 accounts at times before one would get in <Cantide> .-. <Cantide> how do i reinstall it there? i want to get a newer version than the one currently installed .-. <Cantide> meh <Cantide> i marked it for upgrade <Cantide> but the dependencies failed :@ <Kilos> for a newer version you need to install the ppa but i dunno how to get that <Kilos> we ask maaz <Kilos> Maaz, google ppa for pidgin <Maaz> Kilos: "Download Pidgin for Ubuntu" http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "#11081 ("Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin ..." http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/11081 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "#10312 (PPA key should be available for download) â Pidgin â Trac" http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10312 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "PPA by Pidgin Developers : âPidgin Developersâ team" https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/?field.series_filter=jaunty 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Pa <Cantide> heh * Cantide does some browsing <Kilos> k <Cantide> i'll download it if it's not too big <Kilos> it was a tiny file that makes pidgin updateable if i member right <Cantide> yeah <Cantide> i see that now <Kilos> oh and to reinstall in synaptic you tick on the little block next to pidgin and you get options to reinstall or remove etc <Cantide> and when i install it, it says that i already have it installed <Kilos> lol <nlsthzn> :/ Novell has finally accepted a bid for it to be bought... and Microsoft has also gotten there grubby fingers in the pie... <Kilos> then you can also go <Kilos> um <Kilos> er <Kilos> sudo aptitude pidgin install <Kilos> wht nlsthzn <Kilos> what <nlsthzn> could also always first remove it from SC and then re-install pidgin <nlsthzn> http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation-for-610-per-share-in-cash-109868319.html <Kilos> if i remember the install with aptitude is also an update command <Cantide> aptitude == apt get ? <confluency> No, but aptitude ~ apt-get. <Cantide> :D <Cantide> what he said '< <confluency> Some would say that aptitude > apt-get. <LordCow> aptitude > apt-get <Cantide> I can't seem to update it either way - something about dependencies not being able to be installed :| <confluency> Like LordCow, for example. <Cantide> I see that :D <confluency> What is the exact error? <LordCow> luls * confluency scrolls up <Cantide> pidgin FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU '< <Cantide> let me try Empathy instead then :D <confluency> Oh, pidgin. <confluency> Um, what have you tried so far? <Kilos> Cantide, does a reinstall in synaptic also give the dependancies prob <Cantide> well, that ppa <Cantide> and i tried to update in synaptic <confluency> What PPA, and what error did you get? <Cantide> i have an update, remove etc. but no 'reinstall' in synaptic <confluency> Use apt-get or aptitude so we can actually see an error message. <Kilos> do update <Cantide> hold on, i tried update manager again and it's now updating other stuff... like flash :| <Kilos> in update manager you have the choice what you want to update <Cantide> oh, it says "Failed to detect distribution" o_O <Kilos> just untick what you dont <Cantide> yeah, i saw that, but there is too much to untick <Kilos> dont want <Cantide> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/libpurple-bin_2.7.0-0ubuntu1.1~pidgin1.09.04_all.deb <Cantide> 404 Not Found <Cantide> seems i have a broken link somewhere '< <drubin> Maaz: get http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/libpurple-bin_2.7.0-0ubuntu1.1~pidgin1.09.04_all.deb <Maaz> drubin: 404 Not Found "404 Not Found" <drubin> Cantide: do sudo apt-get update <Cantide> okay <drubin> Cantide: that package doesn't exsist because it has been replaced by another new one :) <confluency> Did you do apt-get update? <Cantide> yeah <Cantide> just did it <confluency> Now try apt-get install pidgin. <Cantide> okay, now all i have in update manager is opera lol <Cantide> no more pidgin there '< <Cantide> i'll try that '< <Cantide> pidgin is already the newest version. <Cantide> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. <Cantide> lies :O <Cantide> pidgin is version 2.5.5, is that the newest one? <Cantide> i should have checked the version before i started doing all this :| <Kilos> 2.6.6 <confluency> Did you definitely run apt-get update? <confluency> And is the PPA definitely added? <Cantide> that's what it tells me <confluency> Do you see lines for it in the update output? <Cantide> yep <Cantide> i'll run it again if you like and pastebin it <confluency> What ubuntu version are you running, and what architecture? <Cantide> 9.04 ._. <Cantide> x86 <Cantide> updating software sources now... <drubin> 9.04 is unsupported <Cantide> oh, then that's why i'm having trouble :p <confluency> Yes, this PPA has no Jaunty packages. <drubin> confluency: You need to upgrade to karmic or lucid <drubin> Cantide: ^ <Cantide> not so easy when on a Vodacom HSDPA connection <Cantide> data is expensive <Cantide> and canonical won't give me another free CD :p <Kilos> Cantide, where are, you <Cantide> Durban <confluency> Jaunty is pretty stale. <Cantide> yep <confluency> You should be able to find someone who can get you a free or cheap DVD. <Cantide> looks like i'll have to live without IM until I get 10.10 or so '< <drubin> nuvolari: ping <Cantide> well, i have a friend with uncapped, and i asked him to download it for me... <drubin> Maaz: get ubuntu <Maaz> drubin: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "Ubuntu homepage | Ubuntu" <Cantide> but he is being slack -_-; <drubin> Cantide: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-ubuntu <drubin> try that OR try the mailing list I am sure some one will be willing to help you out <Kilos> thanks for the help drubin confluency <Kilos> i get lost when things dont work <drubin> Kilos: No worries you have come a long way since you started. <Kilos> will a lot of help from my friends here <Kilos> ty <drubin> Vhata: :( hope you feel better and your stuff gets sorted. <Cantide> thanks everyone '< <Cantide> drubin, it seems no one in Durban likes Ubuntu :D <Kilos> Cantide, come back with feedback <Cantide> anyway, i'll pester my aforementioned friend :p <drubin> Cantide: what is '< never seen it before <Cantide> Cantide '< <Cantide> Kilos '< <Cantide> Cantide hi <Cantide> Kilos whatever that might be <Cantide> Kilos afternoon <Cantide> Cantide it's either pacman, or biting <Cantide> Kilos dont bite. it hurts <Cantide> sorry, it's a habit i have from using Operanet... <Kilos> lol <Kilos> um also Cantide how come you dont order cds from shipit.ubuntu.com <Kilos> thats where i get mine <drubin> why wont they send you another one? <Cantide> i tried once, it refused the credit card details, so i got worried and never tried again lol <Kilos> strange that <Cantide> drubin, i have already received one ( 9.04 ) <Kilos> i get evry new release from them <drubin> Cantide: You can ask for another one <Cantide> it was also my dad's CC <drubin> CC? <Cantide> so i'd rather not mess it up :p <Cantide> credit card * Cantide is a lazy typer <drubin> you don't pay for shipit.com <Kilos> you dont need cc at shipit Cantide <Cantide> oh, i must be thinking of the canonical site then <drubin> We can send you a CD free of charge, but it will take from six to ten weeks to deliver, so you may prefer to download the CD image and record it yourself. <Kilos> sometimes they arrive in three weeks <confluency> Cantide: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1136979/+listing-archive-extra <confluency> I think you can download the old packages from an archive; they're linked on that page. <Cantide> drubin, at the price of data, it's not practical to download <confluency> You can try downloading and saving them, and installing with dpkg. <drubin> Cantide: I know. I was suggesting "we can send you a cd free of charge" <Cantide> ^^; * Cantide has a look at shipit <Cantide> confluency, thanks, i'll try :) <drubin> where do we report bugs against shipit.ubuntu.com ? <drubin> nvm <Cantide> "Already received too many shipments" lol <Cantide> 1 == too many -_-; <Kilos> no man i get every release from shipit <Cantide> :o <Cantide> shipit has favouritism built in :D <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> cantide ask on the lists there must be someone near you <Cantide> k <Cantide> i still think it's easier to ask my friend to download it... <Cantide> i'll see him on Saturday <Cantide> so i'll pester him about it then :D <Kilos> yes if he will <Cantide> he said he would, but i told him it's not urgent <Cantide> now i decided that it is :D <Kilos> just make sure he gets the image i think its called <Cantide> yip <Kilos> i have never done it. also got bandwidth probs <Kilos> so i use shipit and they send every time <Cantide> i think he's downloaded before - but an older version obviously <confluency> If he has unlimited bandwidth, get the DVD. <Kilos> since 9.04 <confluency> I've found that the torrent is pretty fast. <Cantide> maybe i should create a new launchpad account ._. <Cantide> confluency, from the canonical site?? <confluency> Yes, they have an official torrent. They've had it for a while. <confluency> You can leverage the excellent bandwidth of nice people in Russia. <Cantide> cool <Cantide> i'll tell him that '< <Cantide> afk for a while <Cantide> thanks for the help everyone :) <Kilos> yw sorry it didnt work <Kilos> good luck <Cantide> ^^ <Kilos> hi maiatoday <maiatoday> hi Kilos <maiatoday> how are things <Kilos> well ty and you? <maiatoday> great thanks <drubin> Just reported my first (and confirmed) but against shipit.ubuntu.com <maiatoday> hey drubin <maiatoday> shipit bug? <maiatoday> hey! is that a gcal plugin I see on ubuntu-za.org <maiatoday> woohoo <drubin> maiatoday: Hope you don't mind me forwarding your email to the loco <Pauly> hello <Maaz> Pauly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell pauly sorry we missed you. It is very quiet here over weekends" 2 months, 4 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes and 40 seconds ago <Pauly> where is everyone? <Pauly> yes. <Pauly> anyone who is in cape town? <Pauly> anyone who is in cape town to offer me training for web design and maintenance? <Vhata> that's quite a big ask <Vhata> the best way is to just start doing it yourself <Cantide> yeah, i taught myself in a few months <Cantide> web dev is relatively simple <Vhata> heh <Vhata> is it really? <Cantide> that really depends how good you want to become :p <Cantide> you could still make something knowing only the basics <Vhata> well that's true of mechanics, cooking, juggling or anything else, so it's not actually really saying anything <Cantide> no one starts with the advanced stuff <Vhata> no, they don't. But don't say "webdev is simple", because it's not. <Cantide> to each their own <Vhata> ... really? <Vhata> Cantide: I run the servers for yola.com. We have four million users - our data is in the terabytes, and it needs to be indexed and searched and accessed on the fly, not to mention backed up in an easily restorable way. <Vhata> We need to write software that can run on multiple concurrent servers, because one server cannot handle the load <Cantide> that is not the web dev he was asking about, i'm sure <Vhata> so we have to worry about concurrency and consistency and atomic operations <Cantide> one person wouldn't just ask about a task like that when he is just starting off <Vhata> don't say "webdev is simple". <Vhata> "making a simple thing is simple", yes. Duh. Making toast is simple. <Cantide> someone who says "I want to learn how to cook" doesn't expect to make a gourmet meal for 100 <Vhata> I get that, you don't need to keep repeating that. <Vhata> But don't say "oh, cooking is easy", because it's not. <Vhata> Say "getting started is easy, and you hsould be on your first legs in a short while, and you can build from there" <Vhata> also, Pauly didn't ask about web dev, he asked about web design. <charlvn> the term "web dev" is so diluted it's almost as bad as "cloud computing" or "web 2.0" <charlvn> it can describe anything from doing basic html/css to writing complicated backends <drubin> charlvn: cloud computer is worse then web 2.0 <charlvn> drubin: agreed, and web 3.0 is even worse than cloud computing :) <drubin> charlvn: *nothing* beats "mobile web" imho <charlvn> drubin: for sure! after all, the "normal" web got too old, now we need a new, totally separate one! <drubin> charlvn: A new "mobile web" "4g" on our new "cloud servers" <charlvn> drubin: that settles it, we're moving straight into the marketing department! gonna introduce this new awesome technology to the world! <Pauly> okay <Pauly> okay <magespawn> good evening all <charlvn> 'eve magespawn <magespawn> we have not met before <magespawn> have we? <charlvn> probably not, pleased to be introduced :) <magespawn> indeed. ;) <inetpro> heh charlvn, good to see you here <inetpro> Vhata: you talking to us from the hospital? <charlvn> inetpro: hey :) <Kilos> night all. sleep tight <wedwo-> Nag Oompie, lekker doedoes! <Kilos> dankie meneer <nuvolari> fp #ubuntu-za 2010-11-23 <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and you other guys <nlsthzn> hi all <Kilos> hi nlsthzn <nlsthzn> Kilos: Hey sir, how u? <Kilos> good ty and you? <nlsthzn> all good :) <Kilos> great <nlsthzn> Any news in ZA land? <Kilos> na <Kilos> we just woke up <nlsthzn> I am up for 3 hours already, will be waking up soon too :p <Kilos> lol <corrie206> mornings <Kilos> hi corrie206 <Kilos> youre early <nlsthzn> all the sleepy early birds ^_^ <Kilos> lol <corrie206> hi Kilos nlsthzn <nlsthzn> corrie206: Howzit bru? :() <nlsthzn> :) <corrie206> i have no williamsmith@example.net... this is serious <Kilos> eish <Kilos> thats disasterous <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <Kilos> and we can order supper in the taal <Kilos> Maaz, wat braai ons vanaand <Maaz> Kilos kruisstuk biefstuk, so paar skaap tjoppies en dan natuurlik pap en uie met tamatie sousies <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <nlsthzn> klink lekka ;) <Kilos> Maaz, dankie <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend <superfly> morning Kilos, nlsthzn, corrie206 and MPD <Kilos> lo superfly <superfly> Kilos: I got a new pet <nlsthzn> superfly: Hiya <Kilos> tell <superfly> Kilos: his name is dynamite, he is a metre long, and he doesn't have any legs <Kilos> uh oh <Kilos> a snake <superfly> yup <Kilos> kill it <MPD> morning <Kilos> its because of them there is so much strife in the world <MPD> a snake or a hanicapable dog <Kilos> hi MPD <MPD> a snake or a handicapable* dog <Kilos> no one told Eve they bad news <nlsthzn> MPD: lol * Kilos retracts previous remarks <Kilos> dont wanna lose the fly as a friend <MPD> ag, just paint a picture of a white mouse on its tail and let nature do the rest <MPD> *ping* <Kilos> lol <superfly> Kilos: to be quite precise, a serpent, not a snake, told Eve the bad news <superfly> also, the serpent was the form that Satan took, he could have easily taken another form if he'd wanted to, I reckon <Kilos> sorry superfly <superfly> Kilos: it's fine, not everyone likes dogs or cats either... snakes just have a bad reputation for some reason <Kilos> just member somewhere saying that snakes will be trodden on by men and he will bite there heels or something <nlsthzn> superfly: still gives me the willy's... but to each there own (I like dogs and not cats) <Kilos> we lose quite a few sheep and fowls to snakes <Kilos> and lotsa eggs <superfly> Kilos: heh, you're thinking of the verse where it says, "you will crush his head, and he will bite your heel" <Kilos> and quite a few dogs over the years <superfly> (note "his", not "their") <Kilos> yip <superfly> Kilos: also, snakes are wild animals, and we're the ones invading their territory, remember <Kilos> yeah. I'm just biased <Kilos> i like pets that can sit up for their food and jump through hoops and bark at bad guys <Kilos> and listen when you talk to them <Kilos> but a snake in a fish tank is fine. i been to a few snake parks in my life <superfly> i take it you don't do cats then? :-P <Kilos> na they used to eat my pigeons <Kilos> and its the only animal that kills for fun <superfly> well, we now have 2 cats, a dog, 6 fish and a snake <Kilos> lol <Kilos> at least you have a dog so there's hope yet <superfly> mrs_fly says the only animal she won't have in her house is a bird, cause they're very messy (I can keep them outside though) <Kilos> lol <Kilos> She is right <Kilos> sis has an african gray that messes all around the cage <Kilos> and makes funny noises and barks and rings like a fone and interferes with my nap times <superfly> hehe <superfly> that's about the only bird I'm really interested in owning <superfly> but they are *very* particular <Kilos> actually very clever bird <superfly> ja, and they can live as long as humans too <Kilos> yeah the thing sits on her but bites me <superfly> ja, they're worse than dogs sometimes :-P <Kilos> one day i will shorten it a bit <Kilos> like they did to king louis <nlsthzn> we just have a cat here... can't have a dog :( (and now the cat has the flu, can't make a sound, so I sleep better at night) :p <nuvolari> whut?? are you people mad? :P <nuvolari> being up so early is unhealthy *cough* <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos, superfly, nlsthzn <superfly> morning nuvolari <Kilos> hi nuvolari <nlsthzn> nuvolari: howdy <nuvolari> meh :( summin wrong with my lappy <nuvolari> brb <corrie206> hey nuvolari superfly , superfly like the snake :) I love snakes and spiders, they make excellent pets <corrie206> ok, brb <nlsthzn> when I think of snakes I think of the badger song <sakhi> moonin <nlsthzn> sakhi: hi <confluency> Morning <Kilos> hi confluency <nlsthzn> confluency: morning ^_^ * nlsthzn is lurking <Kilos> arent we all? <Kilos> lo Tonberry sectorb <Tonberry> hi <superfly> no, I'm working, not lurking * maiatoday is wurking too * nlsthzn is "at" work :p <maiatoday> that's when you work but you keep watch on the channel activity in the corner of your eye <nlsthzn> maiatoday: :D I can't just keep an eye, I have to cross to the over side of the room, tab open quickly (without being seen) and tab back and sit and work a bit again... good excercise <maiatoday> hmm you are an active lurker, nlsthzn <nlsthzn> I try <Reenen> lo all <Kilos> lo Reenen <nlsthzn> hi Reenen ... and with that cheers for eers all... day is done, I am heading home... phew :) <Kilos> sleep tigh nlsthzn <Kilos> tight as well <nlsthzn> Kilos: not sleep yet, some family time, might spam the channel some more then sleep ;) <Kilos> lol <Kilos> ok <Reenen> bye all <wedwo-> superfly, what kind of snake? <nlsthzn> Kilos: Into Blender 3D content creation? Check out these 12 tutorials covering everything from walk cycles to texturing at http://io9.in/b5 #Ubuntu <superfly> wedwo-: a corn snake <wedwo-> Oh o.0 and exotic? <wedwo-> lol, was loading manure the other day and found a 5 footer in the grass <superfly> wedwo-: exotic to SA, yes <superfly> I think it's more from your part of the world <superfly> corn snakes are popular pets because they are small snakes, constrictors, and very docile <nlsthzn> and they eat corn <wedwo-> they eat rats in the corn <superfly> mice, mostly <superfly> rats tend to be too big for the corn snakes <nlsthzn> night all <Kilos> night all . sleep tight <drubin> marcog: inetpro http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/?p=595 <marcog> drubin: cool, i'll take a proper look some time later <drubin> no worries might be interesting on the whole school topic thing <marcog> ya i'm keen to look through that pdf <marcog> just trying to finish progress report then sleep <drubin> No one said now. I assumed you would already be sleeping. go sleep <marcog> heh #ubuntu-za 2010-11-24 <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and you other fellas too <superfly> morning Kilos <Kilos> thats better <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos <nuvolari> bah, need to get to work <Kilos> hard werk seun <Kilos> maar geniet dit <superfly> Kilos: oom, did you see I've been doing a little more work on my blog? <Kilos> nope superfly been trying to stretch data. but will go look now quick <Kilos> Maaz, superfly.blog <Maaz> Kilos: superfly.blog is http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za <superfly> no, not that one <Kilos> oh <superfly> Kilos: my latest blog entry was "Yay! It works! Need I say more?" <Kilos> 365? <superfly> ja <Kilos> code 365 <Kilos> you got link please <Kilos> i bit sore to hunt <Kilos> had a mild attacking of heart yest <superfly> Kilos: don't worry about it, like I said, all I said in my last blog post was, "Yay! It works! Need I say more?" <Kilos> ok. what works?? <superfly> Kilos: selecting an image to display <Kilos> ah <Kilos> i was there last week <superfly> you click on the insert image button, and then the browse button, and then it shows a nice little file browser where you can select your file <Kilos> i must have it book marked somewhere <Kilos> great <Kilos> i hate the picasa add to blogspot <superfly> the next part is to get file uploading working <superfly> which shouldn't be too difficult <Kilos> ah <Kilos> forget playing with the snake and get 365 back on track <Kilos> i dunno if you told what kind even <Kilos> just saw a bit with you and wedwo about corn snakes <superfly> ja, he's a corn snake <superfly> very relaxed <Kilos> where you gonna get corn for him <Kilos> kellogs <Kilos> ? <Kilos> very healthy and not fattening <Kilos> hehe <superfly> haha <superfly> no, they eat mice <Kilos> now you gotta keep mice too <Kilos> they stink <Kilos> you will spend your 365 time cleaning cages <superfly> no, I buy frozen mice from a pet store <Kilos> lol <Kilos> rofl <Kilos> thats a new one <superfly> Kilos: if I had more than about 3 snakes, I'd think about breeding mice myself <Kilos> snakes eat frozen foods too <superfly> but it's not worth it for only 1 snake <Kilos> ok <Kilos> if you like i will catch you a nice big rinkhalls <Kilos> rinkals <Kilos> daai dint\ <Kilos> grrr <Kilos> daai ding <superfly> Kilos: no thanks, I'm good with just a corn snake for now <superfly> "rinkhals" <Kilos> ja daai ding wat spoeg <Kilos> en eiers eet en skape en honde en hoenders dood byt <Kilos> lo oomkoos <oomkoos> good morning Kilos <oomkoos> how you doing today? <Kilos> is the oom good this morning <Kilos> im alive still ty <oomkoos> well it's getting closer to Friday so i'm starting to get better and better every hour :) <Kilos> lol great * Kilos likes calling someone oom <nuvolari> whut? today is wednesday??? already? * nuvolari gooi 'n vloermoer <Kilos> you too busy nuvolari <oomkoos> lol <Kilos> nuvolari, kry n appie <Kilos> you mustnt overdo it <nuvolari> Kilos: die probleem is ek *is* die appie <Kilos> eish. been there done that <nlsthzn> hi all <maiatoday> hi nlsthzn <Kilos> hi nlsthzn <maiatoday> hi Kilos <Kilos> hi maiatoday <nlsthzn> Kilos: maiatoday hiya :) <Kilos> lol <Kilos> i used to say hiys first but the today spoiled the effect <Kilos> hiya <nlsthzn> what today spoiled it? <Kilos> the today at the end of maiai <Kilos> eish <Kilos> maia <maiatoday> hehe <maiatoday> nothing is spoiled, just a bit different <nlsthzn> :) <Kilos> ok then hiystoday maiatoday <Kilos> eish <Kilos> hiyatoday maiatoday <Kilos> my internal torrents are working too good tween head and hands <Kilos> was told about apt-offline. looks like it might be better than aptoncd <Kilos> aptoncd still needs to get updates <Kilos> last aptoncd hit me 400m <nlsthzn> Kilos: looking to build an offline stash of all applications so you can save your cap? <Kilos> yip. this lucid not too happy since i messed up with chown and tumbles had to do a repair for me <maiatoday> Just a reminder for everybody: the Geeknic is on Sunday. I'll figure out how to set the topic, when I get a chance. We meet at the main gates at williamsmith@example.net. People can mail me if they need more info. <Kilos> and i have the maverick cd here burning holes in everything <nlsthzn> pity ubuntu doesn't have the same set of DVD/CD's like Debian with just about everything on it <superfly> it has a DVD which has a lot more packages, but yeah, it doesn't have debian's CD set <nlsthzn> Ubuntu has a DVD? <Kilos> you can get ubuntu dvds but i dunno if they also want to do updates <Kilos> lol im too slow <superfly> nlsthzn: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd <superfly> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/10.10/release/ <nlsthzn> ah, additional language packs <Kilos> Vhata, whats news with you eina's <Kilos> s/you/your <Kilos> had my first heart attack yesterday and the nitro pills near took top of head off <superfly> Kilos: eating too much red meat
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