#lubuntu 2011-05-01 <robotman> are you on here jason? <JasonO> Alex? <robotman> yar <JasonO> Haha I missed that one. <robotman> lol <JasonO> robotman Just a sec <JasonO> robotman: MInd joing lubuntu-offtopic ? <JasonO> *joining <robotman> already did <JasonO> Oh :) <UBuxuBU> could someone tell me how to make lubuntu fill up my entire laptop scree...instead of just 60-70%?? <UBuxuBU> ...annoying <mysteriousdarren> monitor issues? <theholder> HI is there a way to stop my laptop going to sleep when i put the screen down? <tomasz> i use now lubuntu , its there gnome too ? <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: Depends on which way you installed it :) <EagleScreen> hello <EagleScreen> I need to install Lubuntu by usb disk <tomasz> install normal version lubuntu 11.04 from usb <EagleScreen> i haven't a CD burner, how do I pass the .iso CD image to an USB? <tomasz> EagleScreen, its there install icon <tomasz> EagleScreen, use startup disk manager <tomasz> in administration menu <tomasz> it install iso to boot pendrive <MrChrisDruif> EagleScreen: and if you are on Windows, use unetbootin <leszek> hi <EagleScreen> I uderstand, thanks <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: Not by default, but you can always install it with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" <tomasz> why lubuntu have big iso 700mb ? here is default less software than ubuntu <MrChrisDruif> Also you can choose to add the option "--no-install-recommends" <tomasz> ubuntu have for example libreoffice its take a place in iso <tomasz> lubuntu dont have <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: I do not know, maybe some lightweight apps have gotten a big install size? <MrChrisDruif> Big install size != heavy in use <tomasz> i dont know, i only ask i am begginer in ubuntu and i see is not so much software in default and here is light lxde but it still 700mb ;) <tomasz> maby install are big <tomasz> but lubuntu is more fast than ubuntu <MrChrisDruif> Maybe because gnome is better designed to work with each other, there for taking up less space. I don't know <leszek> tomasz: lubuntu ships more language support out of the box than ubuntu does <tomasz> maby is more small programs and i dont see it now, more administration than for normal users <leszek> so its basically so big because of all the languages supported and help files shipped <MrChrisDruif> leszek: Why is that? If even Ubuntu doesn't ship with them? Would make more room for other apps? <tomasz> lubuntu have normal tray not like unity ? <leszek> tomasz: yes normal one <tomasz> ok <leszek> MrChrisDruif: I don't think there is any app missing in lubuntu to fullfill its goal right now <EagleScreen> it is easy share folder with samba in Lubuntu? <tomasz> lubuntu use ext4 or ext3 ? <leszek> tomasz: ext4 by default, but you can use whatever you want <tomasz> ok thanks i see ext3 on pendrive so i ask <leszek> EagleScreen: I don't think the gnome sharing assistent is installed in lubuntu, and no pcmanfm does not have an implementation of samba sharing I guess <tomasz> is there some nice windows for lxde ? <tomasz> Onyx is nice <leszek> you mean window decor ? <tomasz> yes <leszek> you can find several on box-look.org if you search for openbox themes <tomasz> widgets and window <leszek> widgets are managed by gtk themes <leszek> so you need to set them up seperately <tomasz> nice thx <tomasz> how simple install skype ? <tomasz> ok i have <leszek> :) <MrChrisDruif> :D <tomasz> normal dont have in synaptic <tomasz> lxde realy fast work ;) <lee> hello, I am trying to run Lubuntu 10.4 (because of the X.org version required by the touchscreen driver). when I try to boot to the livecd the loading logo appears for about 30 seconds and then the screen goes blank; so I tried booting in safe graphics mode from the cd, and this time I get an "out of range" error from the monitor <lee> if I hit ctrl-alt-- twice then the desktop becomes visible, but I have to pan around to see the bottom panel. running xdpyinfo from a terminal claims it's running at 1024x768 <lee> the monitor supports 1280x1024, so I'm not sure why a) that's not working normally, or b) why I have to pan around the screen to see sections of it at a time. can anybody shed any light on this? <tomasz> maby something with refresh of monitor hmm <lee> (ubuntu 10.10 works fine, but has an incompatible version of x.org) <tomasz> its ok when i have opengl render unknown ? <tomasz> how is possible one core works with 1333 and second 1733? ;) <tomasz> i have problem with chromium when i do open file in download folder i get new page html <tomasz> where i can found trash ? <leszek> tomasz: you get an html page when opening a zip or rar from chromium ? <tomasz> no when i open folder where is file , i download *.deb <leszek> tomasz: trash sits in the filemanager <tomasz> oh ok i have trash <leszek> tomasz: I understand. I think chromium only recognizes dolphin & nautilus as filemanagers <tomasz> oh i understand <leszek> tomasz: hmm... I found a lxde section for pcmanfm in /usr/bin/xdg-open (at the end of the file). Please post the last 20 lines of that file on a nopaste service <tomasz> how install deb.tar file ? <leszek> tomasz: whats a deb.tar file ? <tomasz> in lazarus site <leszek> a deb itself is an archive so why is it tarred ? <tomasz> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Linux%20i386%20DEB/Lazarus%200.9.30/ <leszek> tomasz: seems to me like a tar compressed deb file. Try extracting it with file-roller <tomasz> leszek r u speak poland? <leszek> no <tomasz> mam ten plik xdg-open <tomasz> case "$DE" in ... <tomasz> open_lxde "$url" <tomasz> i need change it for lxde in " " ? <leszek> hmm... try adding this at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601777/ <leszek> save the file then with root rights <leszek> it should work then <leszek> I think we need to fix this for the next release. Please also file a bug for lubuntu on this. <tomasz> i change but always open in chromium <tomasz> maby after restart <tomasz> how create boot usb in lubuntu ? <leszek> tomasz: with usb-creator <tomasz> its default soft in ubuntu ? <leszek> I think yes <tomasz> usb-creator dont work with not-ubuntu iso ?? <leszek> I don't know, I think it worked in debian <tomasz> i know but dont see me iso files <tomasz> only ubuntu iso <leszek> you have to choose the lubuntu.iso that you saved somewhere on your harddisk <tomasz> i know but i wont another linux install on usb <tomasz> ok unbootin works <deitarion> My mother did what she says was a "partial upgrade" a couple of days ago and found her Digikam missing (She's using Lubuntu with KDE bits) and now, when I try to re-install it, it refuses because things like kdebase-runtime aren't going to be installed rather than just pulling them in like it should. <deitarion> I'm a Gentoo guy so I don't have enough experience to know what this "Ask your administrator" "But I am the administrator" error really means. <linuxkeitaro> hey, just upgraded 11.04 <linuxkeitaro> and lost the auto-login. Editing /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf doesn't appear to have an effect <linuxkeitaro> am I doing something wrong? <siriusly> here I am wanting a fast window manager but the latest ubuntu for my old box and darn it...my nvidia (driver 96) legacy card wont work.....kind of defeats the object <deitarion> Figured it out. Tried using aptitude instead. When aptitude suggested the same solution as apt-get and I picked "no", it then suggested downgrading half of KDE from maverick-security to maverick so the other half (from maverick) would accept it. <tomasz> hi <tomasz> in lubuntu is system monitor? <leszek> tomasz: yes <leszek> just look at systemtools <KM0201> is there a way (if you're familiar w/ gnome or xfce) to combine all my open windows, into a single button (or meni).. on the panel?.. rather than having a row of tabs or icons across my panel <bioterror> I'm not getting this one <KM0201> ? <KM0201> not clear? <bioterror> you want a button which does what? <KM0201> ok... on xfce and gnome <KM0201> there's a panel button <KM0201> and when you click it, you get like a "menu" of open windows.. instead of having them spread all across the panel <Unit193> Right click lxpanel "Taskbar (Window List) Settings: check "Combine multiple application windows into the same button" <KM0201> it basically keeps the panel from looking clutter <Unit193> KM0201: ^^ <KM0201> Unit193, thats not what i'm looking for <bioterror> KM0201, press middle button on desktop <KM0201> that only combines multiple windows of the same program, into one option <bioterror> mouse middle button <KM0201> bioterror, ah.. ok <KM0201> i cna deal w/ that <bioterror> is that what you're after? <KM0201> yup.. exactly <KM0201> it's just i'm used to it being a panel button <KM0201> but middle click works fine <bioterror> :-) <KM0201> now, how would i go about configuring my mic. <KM0201> cuz isn't alsamixer obsolute? <bioterror> nope <bioterror> alsa is not obsolete :) <bioterror> OSS is <KM0201> i tried installing pulse audio volume control (what i use in xfce), but it doesnj't seem tow ork w/ lxde <bioterror> lubuntu does not use pulseaudio <bioterror> AFAIK ;) <KM0201> ok. <KM0201> that makes sense then <KM0201> now if skype works.. i'm gonna probably switch <KM0201> you know, usually "fast" GUI's suck. <KM0201> they are either to "nerdy"... or they get bloated down <KM0201> lxde seems to be a good cross between functional, and fast <KM0201> skype works flawlessly <KM0201> great <KM0201> trying to think if there's anything else i need to test <bioterror> skype never works flawlessly :D <KM0201> bioterror, it does in my initial test.. which is all i can ask.. :) <KM0201> all right, gonna move some stuff to another partition, and start working on installing <KM0201> installatino has started. <tomasz> is some weather tray for lxde ? <tomasz> or widget <KM0201> anyone know why i would not have sound no sound? it works fine, but no sound (sound in other apps is fine) <head_victim> KM0201: can you explain it a bit better sorry, I'm not following <KM0201> head_victim, just realized that didn't make any sense..lol <KM0201> Pidgin has no sound, sound in other apps works fine <KM0201> i've ot sound enabled.. i've tried changing the default sounds to some saved ones that i have (to see if that was the issue).. and none work <head_victim> KM0201: is there some sort of volume control within pidgin? <MrChrisDruif> KM0201: Are your sounds muted? <MrChrisDruif> You can mute the sounds from pidgin <KM0201> head_victim, yes, and its set to "normal"... (so i should be able to hear it).. and no, sounds are not muted.. checked both of those <MrChrisDruif> Alright, then I don't know :D <MrChrisDruif> When are sounds enabled? Maybe a screenshot of your sound settings might be nice :) <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, yeah, weird.. never had this problem <KM0201> hang on <MrChrisDruif> *hanging* <KM0201> http://imagebin.org/151198 <KM0201> in case its not clear, i'm set to automatic <KM0201> tried also <KM0201> no joy <KM0201> (also, i checked the box that says "sound when conversation has focus"... just so you know <Sc0jt> May be sound drivers : alsa drivers in some programs and pidgin uses oss or null. <KM0201> hmm <KM0201> Sc0jt, solution: http://d.imagehost.org/0366/pidgin_lxde.png <szczur> KM0201, i have set it to alsa and it is working for me <KM0201> szczur, not for me <KM0201> i had it set to alsa <KM0201> that picture details what i done <KM0201> szczur, google turned up a few hits of pidgin in lubuntu not working.. that was where i found that fix. <Sc0jt> well, i dont use pidgin, it is a generic solution <KM0201> Sc0jt, it is.. but it works.. <KM0201> thats all i care about <Sc0jt> Ok <tomasz> what is short to change desktops ? <MrChrisDruif> O, right. We use Pidgin as default right? Does anybody know if I can order the tabs when the open (the auto-connected irc-channels I mean)? <MrChrisDruif> Automatically, manually I know ;) <head_victim> No idea :/ I'm an xchat man <MrChrisDruif> Rats <head_victim> Click and drag? Change the order you add them to the auto join? Umm? <MrChrisDruif> The first, but I don't know how I can reorder the auto-join list <MrChrisDruif> The second * <MrChrisDruif> Click'n'drag is manually reordering ;)( <head_victim> Yeah but does it save it when you close and reopen? <MrChrisDruif> Nope, otherwise I wouldn't be asking here :) <tomasz> how can i connet to wlan using terminal ? <tomasz> i clear openbox <tomasz> in* <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, is there a way to make lxterminal transparent? <MrChrisDruif> Maybe, not sure <KM0201> i can't figure it out <KM0201> if i can't figure out how to do it w/ lxterminal <KM0201> how would i make gnome-terminal my default terminal? <MrChrisDruif> KM0201: You found the color settings? <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, on lxterminal? yes, of course <MrChrisDruif> Does it say transparency anywhere? Which version Lubuntu are you running anyway? <KM0201> running 11.04 <KM0201> but i jsut saw how to do it. <KM0201> click the background color, then change the "Opacity" slider" <MrChrisDruif> Indeed,I read something about a slider, hence my question about color settings :) <KM0201> it's usually listed as like "transparency option" or something like that ... but thats cool <KM0201> learn something every da. <MrChrisDruif> So if you look at this page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LXTerminal > where would you need to click for transparency and right or left button? <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, you click one of the clors.. if you want the background transparent.. click the background <KM0201> then move the slider "Opacity"... lower... and click OK, and you'll see the background go clear <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, the opacity slider is not in that screenshot though, for whatever reason <MrChrisDruif> Maybe because it's from an older version. This picture you mean http://phillw.net/lxt-2.png <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, http://imagebin.org/151213 <MrChrisDruif> Alright, great :) <KM0201> that was the easiest way to explain it..lol <KM0201> you know something i never understand <KM0201> whenever i install ubuntu, and set my time (Indianapolis, IN) <KM0201> on the install process <MrChrisDruif> Next time someone asks for transparency I'll direct them to the wiki or help (we're moving them atm)and say the transparency slider is missing from the screenshot :D <KM0201> lol <KM0201> but no matter what, when i install ubuntu, my time, even when i set it properly during install, ALWAYS defaults to America/Adak... <KM0201> not a huge deal.. just don't know why it "ALWAYS" does that <MrChrisDruif> Maybe a bug? <MrChrisDruif> I think you should be looking into ubiquity bugs for this one :) <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, i dunno, it does it every single version of ubuntu i install, and i know i set city/state right in the install process, but when i'm actually installed, and i boot. .my time zone is set to America/Adak.. ALWAYS..lol <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, what version of lubuntu are you using now (assuming you are) <MrChrisDruif> Now none, on my mum's laptop (dual-boot, no worry :P) 10.04 <KM0201> oh ok <KM0201> i gotta roll out <KM0201> i'll be backin abit. <MrChrisDruif> Alright, take care :) <kosaidpo|> hello guys im wonderin how to get the latest pcmanfm without compilin ?? <head_victim> kosaidpo|: is it in a ppa somewhere? <kosaidpo|> uhmm i found a git repo but idk if its a good idea , isi t ? <tomasz> i install vbox 4.06 and it dont work on lubuntu <tomasz> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) <head_victim> kosaidpo|: https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa is what I'd suggest <kosaidpo|> head_victim: is it good to use git repo ?? <head_victim> kosaidpo|: no idea sorry, have never used one <head_victim> gilir: can you help kosaidpo|? What's the easiest/best way to test the latest pcmanfm out? <kosaidpo|> head_victim: but this one is fo the hole environnement , me i want only pcmanfm : ] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: yeah but you can choose to only update pcmanfm <kosaidpo|> head_victim: how ?? <tomasz> ok work now, i use : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup <head_victim> kosaidpo|: thought it was fairly simple but trying to find a link that explains it well because apparently it's not as simple as I remember <kosaidpo|> head_victim: shud i add deb in front of the line in source list ?? <lee> ok, this is driving me INSANE! I have a machine that I am trying to get lubuntu 10.4 running on. I keep getting "out of range" errors from the monitor, and I get no GUI in failsafeX mode <kosaidpo|> or use the cmmd apt-add-repo ? <head_victim> kosaidpo|: which source are you adding? <kosaidpo|> the link u gav m <head_victim> lee: does the monitor work with other computers? <lee> I have used "X -configure" to generate a basic config and edited it slightly (to use vesa instead of intel driver, as using the intel driver appears to hang the machine completely when X starts, and to add a Modeline to the Monitor section, then call it from the Display subsection), run "X -config <path to that config>" and I still get the same result <lee> head_victim: yes, the monitor is fine <head_victim> kosaidpo|: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lxde/ppa should work ok <head_victim> lee: ok just checking the basics first. <head_victim> What video card/driver are you using? <kosaidpo|> head_victim: ok tnx <lee> head_victim: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: this one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm <lee> although there is also: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I believe this is the DVI port which I am not using <head_victim> lee: is there anything in dmesg? <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: It's maintained by our friendly head-of-dev as far as I remember right :) <MrChrisDruif> Yup, it's from our head of dev <lee> head_victim: there's lots in dmesg, but nothing relating to this as far as I can see <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: who ?? head_victim ?? <MrChrisDruif> Nope gilir <MrChrisDruif> Try to keep up ;) (Just kidding) <kosaidpo|> ahh cus the only name i kno is julien from the ML ;] <head_victim> lee: can you pastebin the xorg.conf you changed? <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: ML? <kosaidpo|> mailing list : D <head_victim> lee: I'm hoping it looks something like http://pastebin.com/dxK2DiYu <MrChrisDruif> That's the same ;) <lee> head_victim: http://pastebin.com/wc87DTR8 <MrChrisDruif> If you hover your mouse above it, you'll see it's email adress <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: hahah ok i tho its another peson <lee> what's also weird is that I can't ctrl-alt-f# to another console whilst the monitor claims to be out of sync (ctrl-alt-backspace/delete do nothing either, but the machine is reachable via ssh and not under load), also tried ctrl-alt- and + lots of times to no avail <head_victim> lee: can you comment out your entries and try the one I pasted? (Assuming your monitor can handle those resolutions, if not change them to something it can EASILY accomplish) <head_victim> lee: so it's definitely working just not displaying <lee> head_victim: sure, hang on <head_victim> lee: no worries, just trying to see if we can get the basics to work <lee> ahh shit that was stupid, I put that pastebin in/etc/X11/xorg.conf <lee> then started it with: X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf <lee> head_victim: that caused the machine to hang, same as failsafeX does <head_victim> SO where is the "out of range" error coming from if not dmesg? <lee> the monitor itself is showing that error <head_victim> lee: ah ok, laptop or desktop? <lee> desktop <lee> well, desktop style <lee> http://www.lex.com.tw/product/TW2242H.htm is the machine <head_victim> lee: I might have found somethign <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/855gm-fix and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27187 should be good reads <ubot5> Freedesktop bug 27187 in Driver/intel "[855GM] gtt chipset flush is not cache coherent" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] #lubuntu 2011-05-02 <lee> head_victim: no joy, I get errors from make on installing the 855gm-fix-dkms ppa <lee> /var/lib/dkms/855gm-fix/1.0.0/build/agp/intel-agp.c: In function Ã¢intel_i830_chipset_flushÃ¢: <lee> /var/lib/dkms/855gm-fix/1.0.0/build/agp/intel-agp.c:844: error: implicit declaration of function Ã¢wbinvd_on_all_cpusÃ¢ <lee> make[2]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/855gm-fix/1.0.0/build/agp/intel-agp.o] Error 1 <lee> ah <lee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1683118 <head_victim> Heh we're going around the same pages ;) <lee> oh nevermind, doesn't apply <lee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 might though ... <lee> ah no that's for jaunty, not lucid <kosaidpo|> hey guys <kosaidpo|> i wanna add some icone mauely but idk where <kosaidpo|> cus with the lxapearance he doesnt show zip files :P <lee> arrrgh, and xorg goes from v1.7 in lucid to 1.9 in maverick (and I need 1.7 or 1.8 for this touchscreen driver) <lee> *headdesk* <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: Not in /usr/share/icons? <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: ok ill see <head_victim> lee: sorry I'm starting to run out of ideas <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: GRr i jst had to unzip the file so ican find the tar one : ] tnx tho <MrChrisDruif> Great :) <lee> ok well I better image this thing and try xubuntu 8.04 or something <head_victim> lee: sorry about that, tried 11.04 ? <lee> no point <lee> if 10.10 has too new a version, I doubt 11.04 is going to have an older one =) * kosaidpo| faenza icones looks pretty neat : ] <lee> if elo would just keep a bit more up to date with their drivers... <lee> but then the touchscreens we're using have a manufacture date of 2001, so it's reasonably old ... <lee> head_victim: ah well thanks anyway =) <head_victim> lee: sorry I couldn't help any more, the only thing I could suggest now would be to email the mailing list? <KM0201> how can i create a directory icon on my desktop <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, any idea? <MrChrisDruif> ? <MrChrisDruif> Directory icon? <KM0201> how would i create a link to a directory on my desktop <KM0201> usually i would just create a short cut on my gnome desktop, then make the target like.. "nautilus /path/to/directory"... <MrChrisDruif> ln -s /path/to/source ~/Desktop ? <MrChrisDruif> Would create a symlink, not really what you meant but get the job done I think <KM0201> yeah, but i'd like to create my own icon for it. <KM0201> but yeah, that does work <KM0201> i just can't figure out how to change the icon for it <KM0201> if i could just create a pacman launcher, that would be fine. <KM0201> cuz i coud edit the path. <MrChrisDruif> KM0201: It's 2AM here and I need to finish stuff up and quickly go to bed :P <KM0201> oh ok. <KM0201> assigning an icon shouldn't really be this difficult though. <KM0201> lol <MrChrisDruif> Indeed, but maybe it's due to making a link instead of a launcher? :) <MrChrisDruif> Btw, you can change the icon of the source, which would change the icon on the desktop <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, well i only want to change the icon on the desktop, not the entire source <MK``> got disconnected, not sure if my line went through: <MK``> is Lubuntu 10.04 a community LTS or not? I am getting conflicted information <MK``> *ing <Unit193> MK``: Yes it is <MK``> thanks. Wikipedia says it is not, then a few paragraphs down says it is heh <Unit193> "[18:49:08] < phillw> ...As we are supporting it as an LTS" <KM0201> Unit193: if i make my workspace switcher have 4 workspaces, is there a way to make it 2x2, instead of a row of 4? <Bsims> I can't enable system bell any ideas <Bsims> I can't enable system bell, or make gtk app sliders visible at all times any ideas? <Unit193> KM0201: I don't think so: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel (~/.config//lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel <KM0201> Unit193: hmm.. ok.. not a huge deal i geuss.. thanks. <Toadboy> hi all - wondering if anyone is awake to help out with a problem. Whenever I try to load Synaptic Package Manager, I enter my password and then the screen does a little flash thing and doesn't open. Thanks <MrChrisDruif> Weird <Unit193> Open lxterminal and type gksudo synaptic <MrChrisDruif> Btw, which timezone are you Toadboy? <Toadboy> PST <MrChrisDruif> UTC/GMT -/+? <Toadboy> Unit193, same result <Toadboy> umm -9 this time of year <Toadboy> I think <Toadboy> -7 <Toadboy> sorry <MrChrisDruif> So it's almost midnight over there? <Toadboy> yeah <Unit193> Do you see anything in the terminal? <Toadboy> ohh <Toadboy> it thinks the wrong pass <Toadboy> I dont think it is <Toadboy> oh wow <Toadboy> this is embarrasing <Toadboy> i must have had caps lock on during install <MrChrisDruif> We don't know ^^ <Toadboy> so <Toadboy> yeah <Toadboy> that was the problem <Toadboy> i need to turn capslock on <Toadboy> its embarassing <Unit193> sudo passwd root <Toadboy> can I change my pass with that command? <Unit193> Yeah, root pass <jmarsden> Unit193: No, that sets root pw. Just plain passwd will set your own pw <MrChrisDruif> Changing/Adding root password? =-O <Unit193> jmarsden: Sorry, my bad :commits: <jmarsden> Unless you have very special needs, you should not need to set a root pw in linda89@example.com. <MrChrisDruif> Indeed, sudo would suffice <MrChrisDruif> Or gksudo is better according to some <jmarsden> Right. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo <Toadboy> all fixed <Toadboy> thanks! <jmarsden> Good :) <Toadboy> i was really worried - btw, just started with lubuntu, its tiny use of resources is amazing <jmarsden> Welcome to Lubuntu :) <MrChrisDruif> Indeed :D * MrChrisDruif signs off, see y'all later <MK``> I updated the wikipedia entry :) <NRWlion> hey folks, need help. finally got a working Lubuntu 11.04 Live CD but after booting the CD there is only a text-screen asking me to login and not - as i am used to a GUI starting directly up... what do i have to do? <KM0201> NRWlion: that woud indicate you had sme issue during the boot process.. does it say something like "Busy Box" <NRWlion> KM0201 : nope <NRWlion> its says starting NTP server ntpd <NRWlion> starting bluetooth <NRWlion> and then a welcome message to ubuntu 11.04 <KM0201> NRWlion: dunno, something fubarred if its not booting <NRWlion> that is bad <KM0201> wel, its not good.. but i'm not sure its bad <KM0201> do other live CD's boot OK? <NRWlion> KM0201 : affirmative <KM0201> weird <NRWlion> KM0201 : just getting a debian lxde 386 iso right now <NRWlion> to check whether the machine is not able to handle ubuntu <KM0201> NRWlion: thats strange.. i would have expected it to work fine <NRWlion> KM0201 : nope it doesnt <NRWlion> have already lost three blank cds for burning the live cd and lost the whole weekend and my GF nearly because my problems :( <KM0201> lol, your GF?.. dang dude..lol. <esing> hi <esing> should I update to ubuntu 11 though I have lubuntu? <esing> also should I safe certain files before updating? <NRWlion> esing : from my point of view i would wait with the update to get the last problems solved first <esing> okay thanks <KM0201> esing: always always always backup prior to doing an upgrade... <KM0201> but most of the upgrades have been going OK, from what i've read.. but i don't upgrade, i always clean install <esing> KM0201 i only hate to configure my wake on lan every time new after updating/upgrading <KM0201> esing: i can't tell you if that'll be effected or not. <KM0201> i wouldn't think so.. but.. <esing> once it effected after updating the kernel <esing> ;) <KM0201> hmm, then i would suspect its going to cause a problem <esing> yep :) <KM0201> if you knjow where the configuration is stored, you can back up the config, and just reload it when you've completed the upgrade/clean install <esing> but it is not so much work configuring it, i just forget all those commands and have to read it up again <KM0201> esing: there has to be a way to backup the configuration files. <ThiagoMedeiros> what's the minimal requiriments to run lubuntu ? <MrChrisDruif> ThiagoMedeiros: According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System%20requirements it's Pentium II/ Celeron with 128MiB or RAM <ThiagoMedeiros> good! thanks MrChrisDruif <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome :) <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: what package do i uninstall to remove the lubuntu games? <MrChrisDruif> I don't know KM0201 <KM0201> i'll just remove them one at a time <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: ah.. its "ace-of-penguins"... mark that for complete removal, and it removes them all.. :) <MrChrisDruif> One of the games I guess :) <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: must be..after reading it, package is like "gnome-games"... has several games wrapped in it.. why they didn't name it lxde-games, like kde, gnome and xfce did, i don't know <KM0201> but.. to be fair, all of lubuntus games, are card games, where gnome, kde, xfce, the games are varied <MrChrisDruif> Not on Lubuntu atm, so I don't know <KM0201> oh.. well, take my word for it..lol, i just removed ace-of-penguins.. and i expected it to remoe one game, and it removed the whole pack... then i looked in the description, and sure enough, it listed all the default lubuntu games <MrChrisDruif> :P <MrChrisDruif> Maybe they called it "Ace of Penguins" because it's mostly card-games (a small reference to the "Ace of Spades" which is a recognized name in English) <WiZ> :P <WiZ> welcome to the 'meta' package lol <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: yeah, i'd think thast the reason <KM0201> but i still wouold ave expected it to be called lxde-games, to be in line w/ gnome, kde, xfce, etc <lubuntu> Hi <lubuntu> i instal gdesktoplets (for widgets on pulpit) and it blink <lubuntu> can i do something in lxde with this <KM0201> lubuntu: i'm not sure if those work in lxde or not (since lxde is designed to be bare minimum <lubuntu> yes i know <lubuntu> its normal works but in refresh it blink <KM0201> lubuntu: dunno <sss314> I thinking to switch to lubuntu instead of ubuntu. Can I run all my apps on lubuntu? <mark76> What apps are those? <sss314> Mainly, GIMP and Eclipse (Java IDE) <mark76> I don't see why not <sss314> Does lubuntu comes with a LiveCD that allows me to try it without installing it? <mark76> I think so <mark76> Try www.lubuntu.org <mark76> www.lubuntu.net <mark76> I mean <kristian_> hi all <kristian_> so, I got 10.10 on my ThinkPad T40... many improvements <Kurdistan> kristian_, you mean 11.04? <kristian_> however, LXDM freezed sometimes, which is rather unpleasant... I bang some keys and it goes away <kristian_> hi Kurdistan <kristian_> erm.... 10.10 I think... the one that's linda89@example.com? <WiZ> 11.04 is the new one <kristian_> bugger <ultrax_> hi all <ultrax_> somebody willing to help with an advanced apt-proxy configuration problem? <kristian_> I can't tell which one it is from the CD... how long since 11.04 got there? <kristian_> hi ultrax_ - for advanced apt stuff, I always go to synaptic, believe it or not <ultrax_> lol <ultrax_> ok ill try thx <ultrax_> dude there is one user <ultrax_> oh i misunderstood lol... <ultrax_> well there is noting you can configure in synaptic related to apt-proxy server <kristian_> ah, sorry <kristian_> I just like the GUI when I need an overview of all the stuff <ultrax_> np <WiZ> kristian_ when you boot the cd on the desktop it will say install lubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 depending on what version you downloaded <Kurdistan> kristian_, write this in terminal to know the version you have: lsb_release -a <kristian_> it says 10.10 <kristian_> I knew there was a command like that somewhere ;) <lubuntu> hi <lubuntu> can i do copy of settings my system on hd to the usb pendrive ? <lubuntu> its mean colors fonts boreders windows ect. ? <lubuntu> becouse i do nice lxde desktop <lubuntu> ok i write hand to txt file number of colour #lubuntu 2011-05-03 <e2096> Hi, can somebody tell me if there is a way to boot up Lubuntu without generating the locales? <GnuSense1> What are the hard drive requirements for 11.04 lubuntu.? I have Hardy xubuntu on 2.5 GB ext3, but 8.04 won't be supported anymore. /dev/sda5 ext3 2.5G 2.2G 177M 93% / <KM0201> GnuSense1: 2.5gb is bare, bare minimum. <GnuSense1> I figure I can strip out LibreOffice and any games, that should give me enough breathing room to get updates and install a few packages I use. <GnuSense1> I saw something on the release notes about pcmanfm having gvfs/gio. Does it now support browsing network shares like xfce 4.8 Thunar? <KM0201> GnuSense1: i dunno... minimum install, is 2.1gig <KM0201> and... i don't know about browsing network shares, hang on <GnuSense1> I guess LibreOffice isn't on the CD, Gnumeric and Abiword are, but they are pretty small. <KM0201> right <KM0201> GnuSense1: i don't see browsing network shares <KM0201> GnuSense1: i don't think you're gonna get much out of 2.1gigs to be honest <GnuSense1> 2.5, but yes, its a tight squeeze. I've been running Hardy Xubuntu since 2008, though. <KM0201> GnuSense1: i'm surprised honestly <GnuSense1> Sometimes I have to update some packages, do a 'apt-get clean', then update the rest. <GnuSense1> And obviously immediately clean up any old kernels <KM0201> wow.. i think i'd spread it to about 4-5gigs, to make it much easier <GnuSense1> 8 year old laptop, small hard drive, the Windows partition only has a spare 1.9 GB, and even though I never use it, I figured I paid for it and out to keep it. <KM0201> 8yrs old? for crying out loud, nuke windows <GnuSense1> I guess I should. I only boot it to update it and it was never super stable, but it is nice to have a Windows install to use as a model to support Windows using friends and family. <GnuSense1> It doesn't look like there is too much extra to strip out of the base install, Ace of Penguins, gnumeric, maybe Sylpheed, Transmission and xchat (since it has pidgin), but then I need to install flash and codecs. I like the package choice (audacious is my favorite music player, mtpaint is great, pcmanfm is light but has tabs, GPicView is one of my favorite graphics browsers (along with Geeqie) <KM0201> GnuSense1: i dunno.. seems awful low on space <GnuSense1> I could probably nuke my 2.2 GB /home partition and give myself a bit more overhead without a dedicated /home, but I run straight Lucid Ubuntu on a Dell Mini with a 4 GB ssd and it works OK. <GnuSense1> Boots to GDM in something like 10 seconds, too, with an Atom CPU <mrowley> Hello, is this where I can get help configuring my system? I just switched from Ubuntu to Lubuntu, and have a few quick questions. <WiZ> what would you like to do? <mrowley> Thanks! I just want to disable touch-clicking on my touchpad. Stray clicks bother me. I have the synaptics touchpad package installed (by default, apparently), but the keyboard and mouse settings in the menu are very simple and include no touchpad features. <mrowley> I just installed 11.04, and the synaptics touchpad driver worked for the same laptop on ubuntu 10.8. <szczur> mrowley, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457053 <mrowley> Thank-you szczur. I read about setting MaxTapTime=0, but didn't know where to do it. I'll give this a try now! <szczur> no problem :) <KM0201> is there an eay way to change lubuntu's login screen wallpaper? <Unit193> KM0201: sudo nano /etc/lxdm/default.conf and put your pic in /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/ (with correct permissions) <KM0201> gotcha <MK``> Where can I get the previous versions of Lubuntu and the alphas? <KM0201> MK``: previous versions?.. probably on lubuntu.net would be my guess.. the alphas for 11.10 probably aren't out yet <MK``> it lists md5sums for them but the isos/torrents are not linked <MK``> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ <MK``> there <Unit193> MK``: One second from posting that... <KM0201> man, thats slower than christmas <MK``> I mean that only has the recent ones D: <bioterror> i have a secret stash! <bioterror> phillw, give kids some alphas ;) <Ascavasaion> I just looked at http://www.linoob.com/2011/04/lubuntu-11-04-final-released/ for minimum requirements. I am running an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD which is well within the minimum requirements there. I was wondering if anyone here has run lubuntu on a similar or older machine and if they can tell me if it is really worth it. * Unit193 walks it on 500MHz <Ascavasaion> Unit193: Walks it? As in 11.04 runs okay on it? <Unit193> It's not as fast as it is on newer computers. Your computer will run it just fine! <Ascavasaion> Unit193: Thank you buddy... I appreciate it. I am capped by my ISP, so I tend to be a scrooge with large downloads of ISOs. But if you say it will be fine then I will go ahead and download the ISO. <Unit193> Ascavasaion: I have never tested it on a computer in that range, only faster and slower <Ascavasaion> Unit193: I am just looking for a machine I can play MP3s on like a uke box, run a small internal IRC server, and leave conenctions onto international IRC connections, MSN, etc. runngin 24/7 <MK``> sounds fine <phillw> MK``: they al on my server area :P <MK``> phillw: can I has? <Unit193> Ascavasaion: I run it 24/42 (so far ;) ) with irssi and some other programs <Ascavasaion> thank you guys. I appreciate it. Let me get downloading :) <Ascavasaion> Um, another thing... is lubuntu 11.04 a LTS version? <Unit193> Not that I know of <Ascavasaion> Oh :( <Ascavasaion> Darn! <MK``> Ascavasaion: it's not an "official" LTS but the community is providing support for it as if it were <MK``> due to 10.10's dropping of support for i586 processors <MK``> er... <MK``> 10.04 I meant <Ascavasaion> MK``: Aaah, thank you :) <MK``> sorry <MK``> 11.04 is not an LTS. <phillw> MK``: 10,04 is on the documentation <MK``> k <MK``> phillw: is this server area public? :P <phillw> MK``: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#10.04 <MK``> ahh <MK``> ok <MK``> thanks <MK``> Damn... <MK``> the HD I was going to install xubuntu and lubuntu on has 33 bad sectors :( <phillw> I'm not too sure how many torrent feeds you will find, if none then use my server but it is throttled on iso uploads. <phillw> 33 is not too bad :) <Unit193> "The team are committed"? <phillw> Unit193: it was a very sort exchange of emails once we became aware of i586 being dropped from 10.10..... We will support 10.04 as if it was an LTS (even though for us it was not). <phillw> s/sort/short <MK``> phillw: doesn't seem to have any torrents :P <Unit193> MK``: I *think* this might be what you're looking for: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.04.iso.torrent <MK``> I was looking for the alpha and beta torrents/isos, Unit193 <MK``> Seems phillw has the natty ones, I will have to search around for the lucid and maverick ones <Unit193> Then I think wrong... <MK``> :P <phillw> MK``: I have the majority of the lubuntu alpha and beta releases still on my server, if you tell which one you are after I'll check and see if it is there. <MK``> all the ones listed here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt <phillw> MK``: what, you want them all? <MK``> I want to make an archive :P <head_victim> I have 10.04, 10.10, 10.10 Alternate, 11.04 A1, A2 A3 B1 B2 and Final Release seeding ATM. <phillw> My server provider would fry my delicate parts were I to do that! <head_victim> My 11.04 is nearly at a ratio of 10 already <Unit193> MK``: If you get them, screenshots of all the default desktops? <MK``> can you send me the torrents head_victim <head_victim> Would have been better but I forgot to switch it on properly release night <MK``> sure Unit193 :P <head_victim> MK``: pm me an email address? <MK``> can't dcc? <head_victim> On a different pc <phillw> MK``: there is an archive, fully backed up of every iso uploaded to my server in Canada, which is where my server lives (I'm in the UK). <MK``> cool <phillw> The company were kind enough to allow the shared server be allowed to be a direct download fall back for lubuntu iso's. <head_victim> MK``: so they're all the ones I still seed anyway. <head_victim> Let me know if there's a problem <head_victim> It's currently open as much as my residential connection allows. If anyone starts gaming it gets slowed right down though. So just a heads up they will still seed, just the speed goes up and down sometimes. <MK``> yeah that's fine, no rush <head_victim> I have a 50GB plan at home here that I generally only use 20 or so of a month. The rest I try and donate to Lubuntu by seeding (uploads count towards my quota) <phillw> head_victim: even as the direct server for lubuntu, I'm still classed as a 'light' user by the company I use for my server. <MK``> Once I got them all I will seed them <MK``> my ISP introduced data caps yesterday, actually heh. Previously unlimited. <Unit193> I still have unlimited <phillw> MK``: only 10.04 and 11.04 need seeding <MK``> naturally <head_victim> I was actually going to clean up my torrent stuff this week now that the new release is out <head_victim> I would have deleted all those alphas and betas in that process <MK``> Seeding 11.04 now. <MK``> heh <head_victim> Nice to see oneiric popping up in the repositories today. <head_victim> (I noticed it when running my daily rsync of a Ubuntu mirror) <phillw> head_victim: as we are comitted to support 10.04, that should still be available. 10.10 does not really need to be used with the release of 11.04 <head_victim> phillw: yeah that's what i was thinking. <head_victim> I was going ot keep the iso <head_victim> Never know when having an old release is handy. The testing ones I was going to ditch <MK``> I'm that guy that hordes files <MK``> so, yeah <phillw> head_victim: bioterror keeps my server up to date with all the releases, heck I only have 1 TB of space and still rattle around like one bean in an empty can :P <phillw> Just to hit 20% would be great :) <head_victim> Hah, mirror a Ubuntu release and archive server - that's just under 700GB as of today :) <MK``> i'm on my way <phillw> head_victim: once the new dedicated server is set up, I have something like 10 TB on it... Even that young crazy Australian will not need two accounts to store his pornogaphy DVDs on :P <phillw> Holy crap, we're on the support channel. :( * phillw moves to offtopic <MK``> Well I'm getting to bed. Night guys. <lubuntu> how run Bluetooth in lubuntu ? <bioterror> !bluetooth <ubot5> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup <lubuntu> i know but where is icon of BT default is off <lubuntu> in tray <bioterror> you need to run it <lubuntu> ok i have <bioterror> add to startup or something <lubuntu> bluetooth-agent <MrChrisDruif> Bluetooth isn't a systray but an indicator these days * bioterror still prefers cable <bioterror> ;) <lubuntu> i preffer too but BT is easy to send one file ;) <MrChrisDruif> Indeed :) <MrChrisDruif> Ow, have we managed to create a distribution which can finally talk for itself? =-O <head_victim> The SII is among us! <MrChrisDruif> xD <MrChrisDruif> Indeed <lubuntu> what program is good on ubuntu for nokia phone ? <bioterror> I used pcmanfm with my N97 mini <bioterror> for file management :D <lubuntu> i use too but something like pcsuit is on linux ? <lubuntu> for internet connection 3g? <bioterror> hahaha <bioterror> I know a finnish guide <bioterror> how to make your pc dial thru phone <bioterror> but nowdays phones can work as a wlan AP <lubuntu> my n73 dont have wifi <lubuntu> its possible to use internet from usb ? <lubuntu> on phone <bioterror> sure <bioterror> pppon pppoff and so on <bioterror> actually <bioterror> now I remember <bioterror> I used network manager for calling to internetz! <bioterror> few months ago <bioterror> you choose your ISP and click next next next <lubuntu> thx, i try <lubuntu> i download rar file and dont unrar default in system? ;) <MrChrisDruif> Rar isn't an open format afaik. You can install it with Synaptic <lubuntu> yes i do it <lubuntu> its unrar free and not free i see in synaptic <stlsaint> room poke <lubuntu> ? <KM0201> something kinda strange i've noticed with lubuntu... if you got o yoru desktop preferences to change your wallpaper, and choose in wallpaper mode "Fill with background color"... you'll immediately go to a black screen w/ acursor... i tried running some commands, but there's no prompt, just a flashing cursor. Did it twice.. had to reboot to get back to my normal desktop. <KM0201> not a huge deal, just a heads up. <stlsaint> lubuntu: yes <stlsaint> KM0201: if that is repeatable then that is a bug that you can file with launchpad <lubuntu> what yes? <stlsaint> brb <KM0201> stlsaint: well, definitely repeatable... but my launchpad password isn't working for some reason.. lemme check and see if they mailed me a new password. <KM0201> nope <KM0201> i signed up for a new one a fwe days ago <kill3> Why can't I find Lubuntu alternative install iso? <lubuntu> becouse instalator dont take too much <KM0201> kill3: they're out there... <kill3> I need one, but I could not find <kill3> I burned normal cd but my old computer can't handle it really <KM0201> hang on, someone posted a link to the server yesterda <KM0201> hmm <KM0201> maybe there is no alternate, i thought there was <KM0201> !alternate <ubot5> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal <KM0201> that goes to ubuntu <kill3> Kinda funny that Lubuntu alternate cd is hidden or there is none <KM0201> kill3: that really is strange <bioterror> there's none afaik <bioterror> noone has made it yet :D <KM0201> wonder if you could do a minimal install cd (with ubuntu) and install lxde? <kill3> Should I wait for it or use my 10.10 alternate cd? <KM0201> kill3: is it lubuntu 10.10, or ubuntu? <kill3> Lubuntu 10.10 <KM0201> !minimal <ubot5> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <KM0201> eh, nevermind <KM0201> that wouldn't work, becasue thats just gionna download gnome or whatever min. cd you downloaded. <kill3> Is there going to be released one? <KM0201> i was thinking it let you choose your GUI. <KM0201> kill3: i would certainly think (and hope) so <kill3> So should I use Ubuntu 10.04 minimal install or Lubuntu 10.10 minimal install? <KM0201> kill3: i'd use the 10.10 minimal, install, update, then upgrade lubuntu to 11.04 <KM0201> thats just me though.. kind of a long way to go about it though <KM0201> well, looks like my bug is "known"... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/718343 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 718343 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "whole session crashes on setting wallpaper mode to "background color only"" [Medium,Triaged] <kill3> Do I need to download all 10.10 updates before upgrading to 11.04 Lubuntu? <KM0201> kill3: hm, i'm not really sure... <lubuntu> no <KM0201> kill3: i would think so.. but i really don't know... of course, it also seems logical that 11.04 upgrade, will pull in appropriate pcakages <KM0201> well theres your answer. :) <kill3> I could not find my Lubuntu cd and my Ubuntu cd is 64bit so I guess I just wait if somebody makes a minimal iso for Lubuntu 11.04... <MK``> head_victim: I am now downloading the torrents <szczur> kill3, you can download this iso http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso <szczur> and then follow these steps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall <WiZ> kill3: - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso <KM0201> WiZ: pretty slick... <KM0201> WiZ: i take it that will also work w/ Lubuntu? <KM0201> sorry.. lubuntu 11.04 <WiZ> yes <lubuntu> lubuntu 11.04 is grate ! :) <lubuntu> have some problem with gdesklets but its ok <KM0201> WiZ: yeah, i realized that after i posted that question.. that was specifically about lubuntu..lol <lubuntu> why in lubuntu radiotray info is so big? <WiZ> lol <bioterror> lubuntu, we like it things big! <lubuntu> yes but it soo big ;) 100px height;) <stlsaint> BORKED MINIMAL INSTALL <KM0201> stlsaint: i'm trying it in vbox now. <KM0201> :) <KM0201> so far, so good.. but its just now installing the base <stlsaint> Yea well i was too excited to go with vbox so now i have to download the full iso to do a live install <KM0201> lol * Unit193 Installed LiveCD in VBox than added Liquorix :) <KM0201> i just wanna see if thosee instructions work.. where did you fail? <KM0201> what is the "--no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop"... can you change that to "yes"... ? and install the codecs and what not? (i guess ic an try <stlsaint> KM0201: i dunno it stalled and i rebooted and BORK <KM0201> hmm <KM0201> guess we'll see, i'm only about 6% instaling the base system now, so i got a ways to go <KM0201> now it's cooking, its extracting and installing.. :) <KM0201> Unit193: liqurix? * KM0201 has no idea what that is <KM0201> :) <Unit193> KM0201: Bleeding edge kernel (It's a bit faster) <KM0201> oh ok <KM0201> i don't do bleeding edge, unless i have a really good reason.. a bit faster wouldn't qualify <Unit193> Faster really does it for me (And it's only currently in a VM) <KM0201> oh ok. <KM0201> i probably would've tried it there. <kill3> szczur: I cannot use ethernet connection <kill3> So I guess I just wait if alternate install iso appears <kill3> or should I try installing from USB, does it need same a mount of memory? Strange that 256MB is not enough to normal live cd installation btw... <KM0201> kill3: i take it the alt. cd doesn't recognize your wireless device? <kill3> I didn't manage to get it work even before install in 10.10, drivers, drivers... <KM0201> kill3: hmm.. well, so far so good.. i'm at 83% on instaling the base now.. when thats done, i'll restart the virtual machine and follow the instructinos, see what happens * KM0201 wonders how
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