#ubuntu-server 2006-09-01 <drew32> hey all, anyone got time to help me with a problem? <sten> hi. Is IMAP4 + TLS, with plaintext passwords disabled (default, I think) and a 256bit SSL key (default, I think) authentication more, or less vulnerable than a kerberos5 authenticated one. Essentially, I'm asking if it's worth the hassle to set up kerberos just for Dovecot. I have very few users, and all have local accounts. My server is also running SSH, so I'd like to secure IMAP logins. <JulienH> Hi all <JulienH> i'm using dapper, and I'm surprised by the fact that apache2 package wasn't compiled with the LFS support <JulienH> I got this error in my log : "(75)Value too large for defined data type" when I try to access a file >2GB <Madeye-2> Hello <rene_> when running quotatool: "Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process". How do I fix this? <lionelp> rene_: /etc/init.d/quota start #ubuntu-server 2006-09-02 <dmg_> Hello, everybody <dmg_> I was looking at the small business server page and the related threads but I did found any quite precise specification or informations about what that bunch of people are really going too. If there is someone in that stuff can we have a talk? <TTT_Travis> Hi, I am running ubuntu server and for some reason it didn't detect my network card during the install, how do I add a new one through the command line? <dmg_> ouch, which nic type do you use ? <TTT_Travis> Linksys LNE100TX <dmg_> humm should work fine, is that you're second card and the first one is of the same type ? <TTT_Travis> it worked under ubuntu on a different box <TTT_Travis> and this one before <TTT_Travis> dmg_ nope <TTT_Travis> just 1 card <TTT_Travis> I run ifconfig and it only shows loopback <TTT_Travis> do you know how to add a card manually <dmg_> humm usually you just have to load the module and that works fine <TTT_Travis> ok I am going to experiment <dmg_> try modprobe tulip.o <dmg_> (or maybe lsmod | grep tulip to see if it's already loaded) <TTT_Travis> tis loaded <TTT_Travis> but no network card <TTT_Travis> it shows up in /etc/network/interfaces <dmg_> oh <dmg_> ifconfig -a <dmg_> might just be down :p <TTT_Travis> didn't help <TTT_Travis> I got an idea though <TTT_Travis> yay I think it worked <TTT_Travis> I took out my TV tuner card <TTT_Travis> guess it was causing a conflict <dmg_> strange <dmg_> might help to just switch port between them <TTT_Travis> still doesn't work <TTT_Travis> I was wrong <dmg_> are you sure the card ok ? <dmg_> (and the pci slot also ?) <TTT_Travis> probably not <TTT_Travis> could be the problem <TTT_Travis> but the card worked on windows <TTT_Travis> just before I reformatted <TTT_Travis> so I don't think it's a system problem <TTT_Travis> I have had problems before <TTT_Travis> but it just magically started work <TTT_Travis> but the lights on the nic aren't lighting like they're supposed to <dmg_> do you mean that the light are off ? <TTT_Travis> ok so normally when you plug the cable in the main light is on and the other ones blink, so I unplug the cable and it still the same exact way, so I try booting with it unplugged and the light still lights up <TTT_Travis> and it's not supposed to <TTT_Travis> it worked fine on windows <TTT_Travis> maybe I should just get another nic <TTT_Travis> or swap it with a different computer <TTT_Travis> I'll try that <dmg_> yep that's definetly weird <dmg_> omg, ubuntu wiki organisationnal scheme is definitely mayhem <TTT_Travis> hmm still nothing <TTT_Travis> I switched the card <TTT_Travis> with one out of my other ubuntu server box <dmg_> still the same nic model ? <dmg_> (try using another pci slot then, the slot might be damaged) <TTT_Travis> different nic <TTT_Travis> but I think ubuntu might be not detecting it <TTT_Travis> the new card <TTT_Travis> because if I try ifconfig eth0 it says device not found <dmg_> humm <TTT_Travis> don't know what drive it users <dmg_> what is the new nic ? <TTT_Travis> that common realtek chipset <TTT_Travis> super generic <TTT_Travis> it's in a different pci slot then the other one too <dmg_> 8139too <dmg_> the driver should be that one <TTT_Travis> ok <TTT_Travis> ok modprobe 8139too then what? <dmg_> then ifconfig <dmg_> (ifconfig -a) <TTT_Travis> still nothing <dmg_> huh... then I'm out of answer <TTT_Travis> hmm <duderock> hi there! <duderock> I'm having a problem with ubuntu server on an AMD X2 socket AM2 - Gigabyte MOBO... Here's a log from boot to lockup, if anyone has any ideas..... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22300 #ubuntu-server 2006-09-03 <stian> Hey, postfix on my server seems to be collecting email for some reason. I suspect it wants to use them later on in a drought or something, but I really need them sent right away #ubuntu-server 2006-09-04 <FliesLikeABrick> has anyone started testing knot 2 on server hardware yet? <FliesLikeABrick> I've encountered a laundry list of problems with knot 2 on an ibm x330 <infinity> FliesLikeABrick: It's not had extensive testing, no. We'd certainly appreciate bug reports filed on the kernel. (linux-source-2.6.17 in malone) <J_P> morning all #ubuntu-server 2006-09-05 <J_P> hey all, one question about P4 processors in ubuntu: What ubuntu version and kernel I use for Pentium D ? <lionelp> hi J_P, 686 <lionelp> and amd64 if it is 64bit <dura> Good Morning everyone <dura> Can anyone tell me what's going to break when I upgrade mysql-5.0.22 to current in regards to the new security patch today? <infinity> dura: Err, upgrading dapper with dapper-security? Nothing should break, since it only includes the security patch. <infinity> dura: That's kinda the point. :) <dura> lol <dura> Upgrading Dapper Server with the mysql patch <infinity> Right, but just using apt-get, I assume, not compiling upstream sources or anything insane, right? <dura> I've had 'glitches' before upgrading mysql so I'm leary lol <dura> right just apt-get... using binaries. <infinity> Our update we just released in dapper-security will not hurt anything. <dura> excellent :) <dura> I get nervous with things like that lol <dura> If you're a developer... Nice work with Ubuntu Server <dura> And if you have free time (lol!) check out one of my websites... www.lfs1.net <dura> It's been there only a month and I'm the only 'developer' for it so... it's a work in progress. Thinking of switching CMS. <J_P> lionelp: but Pentium D is 64bits (EMT64) right ? <Sivik> do y'all help people with issues if i'm trying to set up a web hosting server? <J_P> anyone can help talk about what ubuntu server version I use in Pentium D ? is dapper 64 bits ou 32 bits server ? Becouse pentium D is EMT64... <Sivik> since when was the pentium d 64-bit? <J_P> anyone could help me ? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-06 <dura> Are there any mrxvt users here? <topa_> Hi all <topa_> I need to know if there are any large scale deployments of Ubuntu-server in the enterprise <topa_> any links/page ? <dura> topa_: http://www.google.com/linux <dura> bbl <lionelp> J_P: sorry for the delay, but yes some pentium d are EMT64, so amd64 is the best <topa_> I need to know if there are any large scale deployments of Ubuntu-server in the enterprise <J_P> lionelp: "(04:24:36) lionelp: J_P: sorry for the delay, but yes some pentium d are EMT64, so amd64 is the best" But I need install ubuntu 64bits or install 32 bits with only kernel 64 bits ? <lionelp> install Ubuntu amd64 <J_P> lionelp: ok <bash3r> sup all <bash3r> i guess this room is quiet cuz all the ubuntu servers are running great!! #ubuntu-server 2006-09-07 <ccelio> hi all <mesut> hi <mesut> is there patched kernels (omatic and or grsecurity etc) for ubuntu-server? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-08 <cracka12> anyone know if ubuntu-server can be installed remotely over ssh <cracka12> ? <Madeye> any recommendation for dedicated ubuntu server? actually I'm having hard time in finding a datacenter that support it <J_P> hi all <stagger> hi <stagger> i'm having some trouble with ldap. does anyone know where the default files in /etc/ldap come from, how i can restore the whole directory to its original state? <stagger> it seems to be no part of slapd since a slapd installation only creates empty directories there <Madeye> Any idea where I can get ubuntu dedi ? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-09 <Elon> iam having some trouble getting ubuntu installed, am i in the correct channel for help? <Elon> (on a dell 2950 server) <Guest6990528> HELP <Guest6990528> icant get this ubuntu to work whit my dell 2950 <BonBonTheJon> hello <BonBonTheJon> can someone help me with a network problem <Madeye> do we have ubuntu-server mailing list? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-10 <pgquiles> does anybody know of a tftp server which implements RFC2347 (i. e. transfer files > 32MB)? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-11 <larryone> hi <larryone> I'm trying to get sshd running <larryone> it was ubuntu-server I installed - does sshd come with it by default? <larryone> or do I have to get it with apt-get? * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <a_l_e> i have a working sshd on my ubuntu and a working ssh on osx. but i can't connect with ssh from a osX box to the ubuntu one (scp works, though). does anybody have an idea what could be wrong? <a_l_e> or does anybody know where there is something i can read about it? <ivoks> http://nepotismia.com/review/ubuntu/server/6.06/ - a nice review... #ubuntu-server 2006-09-12 <wulf> live installer rocks ..... you people are doing excellent work <wulf> how about xenubuntu? <fabbione> wulf: zul (#ubuntu-kernel) is working in integrating xen <guxano> hola mundo!!! <sebest> hello is it a bad thing to enable preemption on a kernel for server? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-13 <claudiu> hi all <claudiu> anybody around here ? <claudiu> I could use some help because I want to setup a web server on a powermac 7600 <dura> anyone else get an md5sum mismatch today after apt-get update? <infinity> update again, you caught a mirror pulse. <dura> okay <dura> that makes me nervous sometimes lol <dura> dapper apt-get update went fine ... but I got the error on dapper-server. <dura> heh... update servers are swamped atm <infinity> dapper and dapper server use the same repositories and the same mirrors. <infinity> If one works, the other works. If you catch a mirror during an update, it'll have a few seconds (or even a minute or two, if it's a slow mirror) where it's inconsistent. <dura> So Dapper Desktop and Dapper Server use the same mirrors? <infinity> Same packages, same infrastructure, yes. <infinity> The differences are in the packages selections we ship on the CD, but on the mirrors, it's all just "Ubuntu". <spike> speaking of, is there an md5sum database available somewhere you can check binaries against? <spike> I think fabbione was working on it, actually it was done iirc <infinity> We never got the infrastructure in place to roll it out officially, though it's still down there on someone's TODO. <dura> infinity: Nice to know... <infinity> I suspect I'll bump it back up to the top of my TODO for edgy+1. <spike> infinity: is it possible to have the code? <dura> But I'm still getting md5sum mismatch <dura> just did apt-get update too <spike> cause I run a mirro locally so I can easily implement it there <spike> for the LAN, on some ro media <infinity> spike: You'd have to poke Fabio. I'm not sure where he had ths code. <infinity> s/ths/the/ <fabbione> spike: it's partially done <fabbione> infinity: infrastructure is in place now <fabbione> waiting for me to do the final test once i can get to build some custom/test CD <infinity> fabbione: Oh, cool. <fabbione> i think we only miss elmo to hook up the generation script to end of rsync mirror <fabbione> and me to test the udeb on cd <fabbione> after that it's only a matter of improving the code and the amount of tests <dura> yep... still get md5sum mismatches <infinity> Which mirror are you using? <dura> For which packages? <dura> security? or... <infinity> The one giving the mismatch. <dura> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/ <dura> and <dura> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source <dura> on both an amd64 and 3 x86 machines <infinity> You run dapper-backports on a server? Brave man. <infinity> Anyhow, try s/us.// (ie: just archive.ubuntu.com) and see if it likes you more. <dura> lol <dura> okay... <dura> actually I don't know why I enabled it becaause I'm not using nay packages from it lol <infinity> Oh, hrm, it's mismatched on the main archive too. <infinity> Awesome. <dura> lol <infinity> I have our archive wizards looking into it. <dura> okay cool * dura wasn't trying to bitch btw <dura> Who do I talk to about a few howto's that are incorrect/incomplete? <infinity> Depends on where you found the HOWTO.. <linnuxxy> hi <linnuxxy> i use dapper... how to know if it support POSIX Threading Library (NPTL)? <dura> Hang on let me retrieve the link... <linnuxxy> ok... if u r talking to me :D <infinity> linnuxxy: dapper uses NPTL, yes. <dura> heh... it's been edited. <dura> good <dura> I hope no one else spent 3 days trying to use it like me lol <linnuxxy> thnx infinity....but is there a command to show this? <infinity> linnuxxy: /lib/libc.so.6 <infinity> Yes, the library is executable. <infinity> Available extensions: <infinity> crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others <infinity> GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson <infinity> GNU libio by Per Bothner <infinity> NIS(YP)/NIS+ NSS modules 0.19 by Thorsten Kukuk <infinity> Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al <infinity> BIND-8.2.3-T5B <infinity> Thread-local storage support included. <infinity> NPTL and TLS are what you're looking for there. <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu...as su seems not working to me? <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu bash shell...as su seems not working to me? <linnuxxy> how to install gmake on dapper? <Gargoyle> Any suggestions for postfix config options to filter spam? <Gargoyle> I wanted to use only programs from the main repository <ivoks> rbl <ivoks> there are many ways to fight spam... <ivoks> none is 100% efficiant, and best I've found is greylisting... <Gargoyle> Do you use postfix's own greylist.pl? <Gargoyle> And are there any other standard config directives I should enter first? <Gargoyle> Currently I have: permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination in smtpd_recipient_restrictions <ivoks> postfix has many options <ivoks> you can use postgrey for greylisting <ivoks> but, it's in universe <Gargoyle> Yeah, just scrolling through postconf.5.html now! <ivoks> smtpd_recipient = reject_invalid_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, reject_maps_rbl, check_policy_service <ivoks> for example... <ivoks> i would suggest reading documentation and howtos <Gargoyle> reading now... <ivoks> there isn't "a solution", but many solutions <Gargoyle> Ahh, some of those have moved to smtpd_helo_restrictions :) #ubuntu-server 2006-09-14 <Gargoyle> Does RBL mean Remote black list? <infinity> Realtime Blackhole List <spanky_> Hi there all. Has anyone played around with forwarding X sessions via XDMCP. If so have you had any luck forwarding the audio with the video? I'm able to log in remotely but having troubles figuring out how to get the audio up and running <infinity> You're using something like ESD for audio, I'd assume? <infinity> Anyhow, not really a -server thing. You might want to ask the LTSP guys, since they do this all the time. <spanky_> ltsp? <CarlFK> what is the dl url for -server? <infinity> CarlFK: Same as regular Ubuntu ISOs. <infinity> http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ <infinity> spanky_: Try #edubuntu ... They do ltsp (thin client) stuff all the time. <CarlFK> spanky_: lilnux terminal server project <spanky_> infinity: ok thank you <beanz> How can I set a vlan id for a real network interface, rather than an alias? <Stonekeeper> hi. I'm not sure if this is ubuntu server specific or not, but today my openldap just started freezing. Running it through strace I find that it gets to an infinite loop of "sched_yield() = 0". Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks. (Is this the right chan?) <thefish> hiya Stonekeeper <thefish> Stonekeeper: did you have a power cut? <thefish> try running db_recover -v -h /path/to/openldap-data <Stonekeeper> thefish: !!! <thefish> long time no sea! <Stonekeeper> roflcopter <Stonekeeper> haha <Stonekeeper> yeah, it was something to do with that. Indeed db_recover worked <thefish> you get that ldap grafting? <Stonekeeper> thanks :) <thefish> ah <thefish> no worries <Stonekeeper> yeah, for sure <thefish> i had the same after a power failure <thefish> well, i didnt strace, but the swine wouldnt start <Stonekeeper> yeah <Stonekeeper> strace gives you an infinite loop <Stonekeeper> shame it doesn't detect that, bomb out with the error "There was a problem starting. Trying db_recover....." <Stonekeeper> thefish: did you get your ghosting working? <thefish> after many moons, using a totally different approach now <thefish> doing it with unattended installs <thefish> bit of perl <thefish> there are too many combinations for imaging <thefish> and the bastard hardware suppliers are changing stuff once an hour <thefish> so for image 43, there are 6 variations, because some weeks we get 80G drives, and some weeks 100, and some SATA, and some... <Stonekeeper> i agree <Stonekeeper> I'm looking at OCS_Inventory <Stonekeeper> you can "push" out software with that, as well as updates etc <thefish> ye i use it here mate <thefish> dogs bollocks <thefish> get the newest one though (may still be beta) - there are some nice new features and the agent is better <thefish> we were having problems getting RAM speed, and this one does it <Stonekeeper> hey,that's encouraging! <Stonekeeper> we are looking at using GLPI with it <thefish> dunno that, whats it? <Stonekeeper> and also, I got some crappy WASP technologies asset thing <Stonekeeper> that i will integrate <Stonekeeper> GLPI - do a search. It's perfect compliment to OCS <thefish> kay <thefish> I use OTRS for tickets <thefish> not linked to OCS though <thefish> if you build a decent bridge id like a look though :) <Stonekeeper> GLPI does tickets <Stonekeeper> but it does more too <Stonekeeper> licence manager <Stonekeeper> stock control <thefish> cool, ill have to pencil in a looksie <khermans> I want to keep my server kernel, but need a GUI -- what package should I install? <khermans> sorry <kimo> Hi, I'm a Linux admin. I want to sharpen my skills working for a bigger site (volunteer), any ideas who should I go to! #ubuntu-server 2006-09-15 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <voici> how can i set the default locale with ubuntu-server? i tried dpkg-reconfigure locales as in debian but it didn't allow me to configure the locales. it just regenerated them. where is the default locale set? tnx. <dura> Happy Friday :) <linnuxxy> had anyone tried ingres on Ubuntu? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-16 <kalif> would anybody know where to look for ubuntu-specific info on kickstart? <linnuxxy> i have massed with some configuration files in the /etc/X11/ ... and i forgote to backup it first... how can i restore the default? <yogurtthewise> linnuxxy: this is not an ubuntu server development question, not even a server one, so please direct it to #ubuntu <yogurtthewise> linnuxxy: OTOH, apt-get install --reinstall will fix it <yogurtthewise> or just unpacka the deb <yogurtthewise> oh well #ubuntu-server 2006-09-17 <dura> any life? <dura> I need to get php5 to play nice with imagemagick <dura> dpkg-reconfigure php5 doesn't seem to work... :( <edgy> Hi, my log file is full of drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: control queue full in my ibm xseries 226 server, any hint what's wrong? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-18 <dura> . <dura> any life in here? <dura> I have to build magickwand from scratch against PHP5 (which is installed) and I'm wondering if I do apt-get source for the PHP5 src... <infinity> To build an extension against php5, you want php5-dev installd. <infinity> Then you can use phpize and all that jazz. <infinity> You should be able to untar magickwand, run "phpize", then ./configure --with-magickwand=/usr <dura> okay cool <dura> still learning lamp <dura> will there be a .deb for it soon by any chance? <infinity> No idea, never heard of it until just now. <dura> it's imagemagick for php5 <infinity> Yeah, I see that. <infinity> Obviously, I read far enough to tell you how to use it. :) <dura> i could ahve sworn I saw something in apt last night regarding imagemagick and php5 but... it's not there now lol <dura> lol sorry <infinity> There's php5-imagick, but I think it's from a different codebase. <dura> i'm learning 2 CMS's, maintain 4 servers including 2 lamps' learning css, php, and python, and i'm also a father and a consultant <dura> yeah when I try to apt it it tells me it's missing or another packages refers to it <infinity> It's in universe, do you have universe enabled <infinity> ? <infinity> It certainly works here. <dura> hmm let me check I thought I did <dura> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe <dura> Package php5-imagick is not available, but is referred to by another package. <dura> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or <dura> is only available from another source <infinity> Ahh, it's only in edgy. My bad. <dura> what's edgy? <dura> unstable? <infinity> Yeah, it's the release we're working on, due out in October. <dura> nice <dura> how unstable is it? <dura> i've been thinking about trying to build a .deb for things like joomla, bitweaver and the like that would include all their requirements <Netslayer> do the regular desktop cd images contain a "server" installation mode at the prompt? <Netslayer> or do i have to download the actual server image <fabbione> Netslayer: yes they do, but on CD there are no server packages or server kernel <fabbione> you will have to install the rest from archive.ubuntu.com <Netslayer> is that all automatic off the internet when i start the installation? <Netslayer> is there any other diff in a server vs desktop installation than just a GUI (kde/gnome)? for example default settings in confs, etc.. ? <dura> from what I see using both side by side, daily, server is more akin to Debian <Netslayer> so it is slightly different? <dura> stability and security is more important then latest and greatest <dura> in some aspects yes <dura> but it's still easy... <dura> imo <Netslayer> does amd64 bit ubuntu installs really restrict package availability? i'm coming from gentoo 64 so i'm a newb at it <dura> excellent documentaion, support, packag selection, etc. <dura> heh <dura> I'm on gentoo-amd64 right now <fabbione> Netslayer: it depends.. if you do a netinstall it's all automatic, but if you install from the desktop CD, no, you will need to install the other stuff manually <dura> it's like every thing else <dura> gentoo has things ubuntu doesn't, and ubuntu has things gentoo doesn't <fabbione> Netslayer: no there is no limitation. same packages are available for amd64 and i386 (modulo some restricted crap= <Netslayer> fabbione, auh cool <Netslayer> dura, i hope i dont find that out to be a problem <fabbione> for server they are exactly the same <dura> Netslayer: I haven't yet <Netslayer> fabbione, what's a net install? <dura> and I have isp-style postfix, two LAMP servers one using php4, the other 5 <fabbione> Netslayer: installing from the network <dura> Netslayer: like a Gentoo install <dura> only not as long <dura> lol <dura> it's like a Gentoo install with the base packages on cd and ready to install <Netslayer> is that a diff installer image i dl? <dura> no <Netslayer> i actually need to do a full LAMP install but i'm thinkin of doing a desktop install since i may have use for a gui on it <dura> It has a LAMP install option on boot <dura> you can also make use of X11 over ssh with x11-common <Netslayer> oh cool i'll have to check the boot flags then <dura> if you *need* a gui <dura> it boots to a frame buffer with the option right there <dura> down arrow, enter, off you go <Netslayer> well i may be using it as a mythfrontend, not sure yet so dont want to kill that possibility if i install server <dura> ahh yeah... <dura> i've used ubuntu for a server and it's fine imo <dura> just uses a bit more space/resources <Netslayer> dura, you talking ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop? <dura> desktop <dura> i've used it as a server <Netslayer> ya i may end up doing that, plus is i have a pressed cd right here :-P <dura> hehe <dura> I spent 14 hours on a hardened gentoo + selinux lamp install... <dura> got ready to load my site... <dura> hard drive died <Netslayer> dura, dude ouch O_o <dura> yeah... i wasn't very... happy... <AviaX> hi <AviaX> ich habe mit dpkg bldsinn gemacht, knnte mir eventl jemand helfen? <AviaX> ah sorry, better in english here i think <AviaX> anybody available? <TrioTorus> dries@adam:/Users$ sudo /etc/init.d/autofs stop <TrioTorus> Password: <TrioTorus> Stopping automounter: <TrioTorus> Couldn't stop automount for /net done. <TrioTorus> Anybody got an idea why this occurs? <TrioTorus> Is there another process that needs stopping first? <lionelp> TrioTorus: some process may lock this directory <lionelp> check with a lsof <TrioTorus> dries@adam:/Users$ lsof /net <TrioTorus> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() nfs file system /net/god/Volumes/G-RAID/production <TrioTorus> Output information may be incomplete. <lionelp> try to unmount /net/god/Volumes... manually <TrioTorus> ha, okay, that worked <TrioTorus> nice, thank you. <AviaX> hi anybody can help me, i killed my system, by removing a package with dpkg force-depends <lionelp> I do not think this a server related problem <lionelp> #ubuntu is a better place for that <AviaX> ah ok yes, thx <AviaX> hi <AviaX> after a system crash, i reinstalled the server <AviaX> after installation, my computer cant boot <AviaX> failure finding boot device <AviaX> i have one hd <AviaX> i tried booting in rescue mode reinstalltin grub with grub-install /dev/hda <AviaX> but it doesnt help <AviaX> any idea? <AviaX> i used ubunutu-server cd 6.06 <dura> does the BIOS still see the hard drive? <AviaX> yes <AviaX> im online with knoppix at the moment, there the hd is accesable fine <AviaX> i also tried fixing it by chrooting from knoppix into my system <dura> hmmm <dura> when you reinstalled did you wipe the drive and re-partition? <AviaX> on the drive there are following partitions: hda1 for system, hda3 for data and hda5 for swap file (which is in an eytended partition <AviaX> no, first i tried to install into existing system, after that i formated hda1, cause i thaught maybe that was the failure <AviaX> but i didnt changed the partitions <AviaX> so with the partitiontable should be everthing fine <AviaX> any idea? <dura> maybe the partitions tables are messed up... <dura> heh #ubuntu-server 2006-09-19 <AviaX> hi <AviaX> dura did we talk about bootproblems this day? <dura> hmm yeah <dura> someone was in saying they had trouble <AviaX> ah cool <AviaX> yeah the solution was, i had changed the ide-cable <AviaX> it was an older one <AviaX> and obviuosly, the harddisk workfine with installation and mounting under knoppix, but BIOS couldnt boot from it <dura> yeah makes sense <nictuku> would I be unfair if I complained about these crazy release cycles? <dura> wtf <dura> another new kernel-image? <dura> dare I ask why? hehe <infinity> Security? You can read the changelog. <dura> just found it strange for two images on one day is all <dura> no offence... <infinity> Erm.. Two in one day? <infinity> 2006-09-15 00:17:04 EST Superseded dapper Security main devel 2.6.15-26.47 <infinity> 2006-09-19 01:03:26 EST Published dapper Security main devel 2.6.15-27.48 <infinity> Looks like 4 days to me. :) <dura> i update 3 times/day <dura> I got both images within 4 hours today <infinity> Odd. <dura> .25 and then .27 <dura> oh well... <dura> everything is rebooted and happy again :) <cf12345> does some know how to monitor hp proliant server with ubuntu? for red hat, suse and ms there are hp-insight-manager-tools available. #ubuntu-server 2006-09-20 <thefish> anyone know how to do either mass "push" updates, or automatic updates to (k)ubuntu workstations? <thefish> im thinking of setting up apt-proxy on a server, just dont know how to get em down to the boxen <thefish> anyone got installer for windows services for unix 3.5? f****ing removed from the ms site! <J_P> hi all <unimatrix9> hello there <unimatrix9> i have setup an ubuntu LAMP server... <unimatrix9> but am new to this... <unimatrix9> now if i setup xoops, it fails to connect to the database...? <unimatrix9> whats the default name of the ubuntu data base? <unimatrix9> any one around? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-21 <nixternal> quick question. i am doing release notes for Edgy docs and just want to know one thing, besides the kernel updates, has there been anything significant with the server updates between dapper and edgy? <infinity> Nothing particularly big, no. <nixternal> i didn't think so this time around...just some kernel tweaks is all i have found..LAMP seems to be the same <RedRose> How Do I get mouse support in the terminal? I installed server linux but it won't let me use the mouse to slecte text <RedRose> the people at #ubuntu told me to come here <infinity> This isn't a support channel, but the package you're looking for is probably "gpm". <RedRose> that's all I needed. that you very much <oliver_savage> I just installed AIDE for intrusion detection, like Tripwire. It had Postfix as a dependency. Is it possible to uninstall Postfix without removing AIDE? <infinity> Only if you install some other MTA in its place. <infinity> You may wantto try nullmailer or ssmtp, if you don't really need a full-featured MTA. <oliver_savage> Thanks, yes I just need to have this machine mail messages, reports, and form mail as it is a webserver. Then I will have a dedicated Postfix. So I install the other MTA then remove Postfix? <infinity> Installing any other MTA will remove postfix. <infinity> "apt-get --purge install exim4" for instance, would install exim4 and purge postfix. <infinity> Since all MTAs conflict with each other. <oliver_savage> Thank you very much. * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <J_P> hi all #ubuntu-server 2006-09-22 <knixtech> hello all <knixtech> what can i use in the server to see what i am downloading? <knixtech> oops, srry <J_P> hi all <thefish> anyone here managed to get otrs (from apt universe) working on 606? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-23 <seer> can anyone here help with a raid issue? my /dev/md0 does not exist <seer> i am trying to setup a software raid after install <seer> anyone with any experiance with raid? <Unimatrix9> would it be wiser to activate universe by default? <Unimatrix9> this way you get acces to phpmyadmin, of thats your cup of thea... <Unimatrix9> and , maybe there is an way around the issue of sudo <Unimatrix9> the first thing you do is sudo passwd and change it <Unimatrix9> but if there was an option during install for the sudo passwd, would that not be nice? <Unimatrix9> for the rest, nice product... <larryone> hi <larryone> how do I set up coinsole access to my server <larryone> ? <larryone> it has a graphics card, and so switches away from the console <larryone> but I want to be able to do maintainance and switch off networking <larryone> is ther any way to tell it to use the console? <Overand> do you mean serial console or do you mean text-mode TTY? <larryone> serial <shambala> buenas <shambala> alguien de mexico df? <_xs> hi <_xs> i have 670764KB of cached memory and i want to free it, can i ? <_xs> ops sorry, ive read the topic now :P <dura> anyone here have any input on what goes on ubuntu.com ? <dura> I see lot's of confusion regarding the install/livecd <Xoritor> does anyone know of any apic issues with SMP k8 kernels? <Xoritor> i am for no apparent reason getting kernel panics now <Xoritor> im trying to figure out if its my hardware <Xoritor> it ran for months with no issues at all <Xoritor> no changes to the system and its just dying <Xoritor> i have now managed to get it to upgrade to the newest 2.6.xx-xx kernel (badger) but it still panics <Xoritor> but it started a few days ago when nothing was really going on with it... it just died <Xoritor> no updates to speak of <Xoritor> no reboots for months <Xoritor> im wonderining if its not hardware #ubuntu-server 2006-09-24 <npowell> I have been having trouble installing Java Sun 1.5 on Ubuntu 6.06 server. <npowell> Does anyone know anything about this process? <npowell> Thanks! <npowell> Oh. I guess this is a support question. <npowell> Let me go to #ubuntu <Denstark> Hi there <Denstark> I have a question... I've set up an apache server, it works, except i can't get to it only from the local computer, no one else <edgy> Hi, my server gives lots of 1 Time(s): [84974.240821] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: control queue full, what's wrong please? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-25 <TTT_Travis> Hi, I am using Ubuntu Server, I want to hibernate but it says I don't have the kernel modules needed to do it, is there a way I can just get them easily or use the normal ubuntu kernel <linnuxxy> i had installed plone using apt-get install plone-site <linnuxxy> i can reach zope in http://localhost:8081/manage <linnuxxy> where can i reach plone? <nictuku> linnuxxy, you will probably find help in #ubuntu, not here <linnuxxy> ok thnx <Rie1> hey guys, I bought a 2x dual INTEL 64BIT XEON system for my web-server. What ISO version of ubuntu should I download? <mark> amd64 <Rie1> mark ok thanks #ubuntu-server 2006-09-26 <sharms> . #ubuntu-server 2006-09-27 <AWOSDev> Okay so you guys can't help me with an apache problem? <AWOSDev> According to ChanServ <AWOSDev> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) <AWOSDev> but according to your topic you can't <AWOSDev> so can you help me? <AWOSDev> I need php3 4 and 5 all on the same Apache2 server <AWOSDev> is it possible? <spike> oh, it eventually became "support" too? <thefish> ye, maybe best to change the name to #ubuntu-devel then eh? <thefish> or ubuntu-server-dev <spike> uhg, another ubuntu-channel? gosh, no please <spike> we dont get that much traffic to justify splitting ayway imho <spike> hardly support questions are getting in the way of dev discussions <sysdoc> ARP spoofing/IP aliasing across the net from 2 different backbones accessing the net from different locations, to establish redundancy for http,qmail functions across an enterprise, is this possible with Ubuntu? <spike> sysdoc: how's that distro dependant? <mark> I think you'll have to explain that in more detail <spike> it's even hardly linux dependant <sysdoc> Right <sysdoc> the idea is to have site 1/server 1 fail over to site2/server2 <spike> besides, I guess you meant ARP proxying not arp spoofing <sharms> sysdoc: yes it is possible. <sysdoc> yea, I know it is possible, <sysdoc> Anyone have any documentation/url regarding this issue? <sysdoc> <searching the wiki <sharms> sysdoc: you don't have an issue, you have various buzz words without substance <sysdoc> lol <sysdoc> sorry I guess I was just thinking out loud, got it handled tho.... <sharms> sysdoc: for starters: "ARP spoofing/IP aliasing across the net from 2 different backbones accessing the net from different locations" - this statement is ambiguous, and could infer many things, but I suppose you are looking for iptables and ifconfig <sharms> sysdoc: to establish redundancy you need to define the resources to be used: multiple servers, layer 4 switch, ipvs etc <sysdoc> Like I said, got it handled.... But thanks... <knixtech> hello all, does anyone have any info for installing open-xchange on the server? #ubuntu-server 2006-09-28 <whurley> hi all, we're (the Open Management Consortium) evaluating Ubuntu Server and having some issues installing it on our servers. I thought perhaps someone here could help us out. <whurley> the issue: when installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions? <nictuku> hi <nictuku> I'm building a test platform for nwu using pbuilder. <nictuku> one of the tasks is to do retake the tests Junichi Uekawa was doing for Debian <nictuku> so I can check how every package deal with non-interactive installation <nictuku> maybe I'll be able to build a 'blacklist' of packages that nwu shouldn't touch <nictuku> question is, is there any kind of batch mass-install test currently in production, maybe internally? <ajmitch> nictuku: piuparts <ajmitch> it was designed more for testing installs, compared to pbuilder which was for building <nictuku> ajmitch, so I lost a couple hours of work to do what piuparts does better :-) <ajmitch> at least it was hours, not days :) <ajmitch> iwj *may* have some automated testing stuff done <ajmitch> which he was going to do with xen, iirc <nictuku> thanks, I'll investigate <dura> can i use a breezy package on dapper by chance? <dura> wana try midgard cms <\sh> hi guys <\sh> hmm...splash enabled kernels (from dapper) are not working with the ilo software of HP BLade bl35p <infinity> Err, you're not actually trying to boot with a splash over ilo? <maswan> \sh: even when booting nosplash (or whatever it is called)? <maswan> and isnt the server kernel nonsplashy by default even? <\sh> maswan: no...without the splash setting it works perfectly <\sh> maswan: no...and that's somehow strange <infinity> THe server kernel can do splash just as well as any, but the server install doesn't install usplash (hence you'd never get a splash) <\sh> infinity: then something is wrong with my 6.06 server cd <infinity> Oh, but there may well be a bug in initramfs-tools where it'll load vga16fb for your console if "splash" is on the command line, even if there's no usplash. <infinity> ISTR that was a "too late to fix" issue that we left alone. <\sh> I just did an dist-upgrade for all sec updates and it installs the 2.6.25-27 kernel with the splash option <infinity> Just whack "splash" out of your grub config and you'll be forever happy. <\sh> what about new kernels to come? the grub config is added from the kernel package, or am I wrong? <infinity> It's not so much a bug as a misfeature. Nothing wrong with having a framebuffer console by default.. Except that ILO hates it. <infinity> \sh: Change #def <\sh> grmpf...got the setting for update-grub <infinity> Err. <infinity> Change "# defoptions" in menu.lst, then run update-grub. <\sh> jepp <\sh> infinity: btw, do you know anyone who installed an oracle 10g on dapper? <infinity> Not off hand, no. <fabbione> \sh: somebody installed the express version available as .deb from oracle.com <fabbione> but i don't know about the full version <\sh> fabbione: that's my question...I'm planning a switch of distros here at combots from sles9 to ubuntu dapper...the only problem I have right now is to convience the management, that we also can use ubuntu dapper server 6.06 tls as oracle server ,-) <fabbione> \sh: now i have a question for you... given that i told you that there is a .deb from oracle for oracle DB (in a ligher version of the full one) and that we do officially support OCFS2.. what's the answer to your question? <\sh> fabbione: the answer is yes, but my problem is "Official Oracle Certificaton for Ubuntu Dapper", management shit <fabbione> no Oracle doesn't support Ubuntu yet <J_P> hi all <whurley> Has anyone here ever looked at/used openQRM (http://openQRM.org) <whurley> I;m the project lead and I'd like to ind a way to get it integrated with the server build since the software is production quality and has a ton of automation features that I think would be useful to people deploying Ubuntu server in their data centers * pygi looks <whurley> I'm trying to work on testing it myself here at the OMC (open management consortium) however, I still can't get Ubuntu server installed on the boxes we have (frustrating) <lionelp> whurley: the topic has come into discussion somes times here, but I am not aware of any effort for packaging it <lionelp> whurley: as you (may or may not) know, today is a freeze day for Ubuntu (freeze for next release in october) <whurley> well, I would be more than happy to start a systems mgmt team to take it, and other projects within the OMC and pkg them up <lionelp> so now, integrating new software will be for Edgy+1 <whurley> lionelp: I wasn't aware, sorry I'm fairly new to Ubuntu in general <lionelp> do not be sorry: you're welcome ! <whurley> lol <whurley> thanks <whurley> well, setting a solid plan to integrate with Edgy+1 is no issue <whurley> the software is pretty popular and there's a good community around it <whurley> what are the milestones/dates around Edgy+1? <lionelp> it is not planed yet <whurley> so perfect timing huh? :) <lionelp> edgy+1 will be released in april 2007, that all what we know :) <whurley> well, I'll see what I can pull together, perhaps finding a few people in the community to release a .deb (or whatever is required) would be a good first step <lionelp> (a release every six moth) <lionelp> whurley: do you have some sort of package or not yet ? <whurley> so can you help me with my installation issue here? Or should I go to a different channel (none have been too helpful so far) <lionelp> whurley: this is not a support channel, but when the question is server related, it can be answered here :) <whurley> lionelp: we've had community contributors create a few .debs however they haven't been through nay testing <whurley> Cool! <lionelp> whurley: were are the deb ? * lionelp wants to test :) <whurley> lionelp: Here is the issue I'm having trouble with. When installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions? <whurley> lionelp: I tried several different boot options, and everything I could find in the forums but I have to think there's something simple that can help me get this installed. The OMC (http://openmanagement.org) is building a new data center and we'd like to std. on Ubuntu server...if I can get us past step #1 :) <lionelp> whurley: which cd are you using ? Dapper server CD ? <whurley> lionelp: ubuntu-6.06.1-server-amd64.iso <whurley> lionelp: it boots fine, the memory test, etc work however I have that freeze wen trying to install <whurley> lionelp: just a note, the result is the same across all of the boxes and we re-burned the CD to make sure there wasn't any corruption issues <lionelp> OKay <whurley> lionelp: I'm at my wits end because I'm not sure what I can change that will get us up and running and we'd like to announce what server we've selected at ApacheCon here in Austin on the 9th <lionelp> Could you post a bug on malone ? You will have the good intrelocutors. <lionelp> I am not strong enough <whurley> lionelp: no worries no one has been so far :) <whurley> lionelp: we have several people here looking at it and Canonical, AMD and Penguin are trying to help with the issue...just no one has so far ;) #ubuntu-server 2006-09-29 <whurley> is there an easy way to update ubuntu-server 5.10 to the latest version? <whurley> (sorry new to server) <infinity> sed -i -e "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade <whurley> thanks so much <whurley> I'm still fighting the amd dual proc dapper issues <whurley> but wanting to install the previous version (if that works) and then upgrade to see if that's a work around <infinity> "the amd dual proc dapper issue"? <whurley> we're testing Dapper as the "os of choice" for the Open Management Consortium <whurley> however, we've been running into an issue that looks like this <whurley> the install cd (amd64 version) boots fine and displays the install choices. However, when you select any install option, with any boot options that have been suggested (and there have been many) then it freezes right after "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel gets loaded into the ram disk <whurley> the servers we're deploying look like this: <infinity> Curious. And I assume there's a bug filed about this? <whurley> Penguin Computing Altus 1300s Dual AMD 248s with Northbridge, 4GB ram and 300GB drives <whurley> well, no not that I found <whurley> I also thought it coule be us <whurley> :) <whurley> I personally wonder it is something with the mem controller <infinity> Well, it could be, but if it's us, it would be nice for you to file a bug and work on resolving it, rather than just assuming it'll stay broken. :) <whurley> since it dies right as the ramdisk is starting <whurley> oh <whurley> don't worry <whurley> I would have already dumped this distro 2 days ago under normal circumstances <whurley> I have been documenting everything tried <whurley> and we're systematically trying to find the cause :) <whurley> we want to start a systems management team <infinity> Anyhow, the next thing after registering the I/O schedulers appears ot be ACPI probes. <infinity> So, if I had to take a short in the dark, I'd guess some IOAPIC/ACPI mangling, either on the kernel command line or in the BIOS, will probably clear you up. <whurley> so that the OMC can build on top of the OEM version of ubuntu server and create a systems mgmt stack <whurley> :) <whurley> nope <infinity> But talking to BenC (in a bug report, ideally, or in #ubuntu-kernel) will get you further than talking to me. <whurley> we tried... <whurley> noapic nolapic apci=off <whurley> and the google of other options :) <whurley> lol <whurley> I'll see if Ben is online <whurley> Infinity, one more question <whurley> actually, never mind * infinity never minds. <gururug> how about including some scripts that setup systems with packages for certain server roles, i.e. lamp, samba member server etc. <ajmitch> yes, that's being done <gururug> sweet <infinity> Except not with scripts. <infinity> You can choose a LAMP install from the installer. <infinity> Or later with tasksel. <gururug> ahh.. <gururug> what's the recommended deployment method for ubuntu in the enterprise, http? <gururug> is there an easy way to get a udpcast gui installed with apt / dpkg? <gururug> sorry, what i really mean is, distro-specific, gui service configuration tools will attract users to ubuntu. <porkpie1> Hi guy's just trying to install the latest ubuntu server amd64 on a Dell power edge 1950 but it doesn't see the Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC <porkpie1> This has 2 dual core 3.0ghz in it as well ...am I using the correct server image ? <porkpie1> We want to run xen on it ...:) <whurley> porkpie1: out of curiosity did you have an issues with the install? <Ries> hey porkpie1 <porkpie1> no didn't finish <lionelp> porkpie1: it was with a dapper CD or an Edgy ? <whurley> porkpie1: sorry i meant installing ubuntu-server :) <Ries> lionelp: whurley: We used the unbuntu serve 6 AMD 64 bit version <Ries> going to post 3 lines <Ries> # lspci | grep -i broad <Ries> PCI bridge: Broadcom: Unknown device 0103 (rev c2) <Ries> Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 164c (rev 11) <Ries> That is what we currently get <lionelp> Ries: it would be interesting to test with a live Edgy CD to know if the issue is still present <lionelp> it seems that there are some issues with the latest x950 Dell servers :-( <Ries> lionelp: we have indeed the latest version of dell server <porkpie1> Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC <whurley> Ries: and there were no install issues? I'm having a freeze right after "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before the ramdisk loads. I've tried boot options, etc. but have found nothing that will get me past that point. So you use the Northbrige in your server? Perhaps there are some bios settings that should be adjusted. All I know is that I'm starting to get desperate for help :) <lionelp> whurley: did you open a bug ? <whurley> documenting for that now...where should it be posted? <Ries> whurley: We have yet ti finnish the install... We will do that first without the nic and then we will see what happens <whurley> Ries: thanks. I'll be interested to see. Meantime I'll open a big (though I'm not sure what to open it against) <Ries> Ok... <lionelp> whurley: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bugs <whurley> lionelp: thanks <Ries> Mark ( porkpie1 ) I am heaving lunche with karina... I'll be back in 30 minutes <Ries> whurley: we will be right back <whurley> Ries: thanks <whurley> Bug #63028: Ubuntu-server Installation freezes on AMD Dual Proc server <whurley> has been opened <lionelp> whurley: nice <lionelp> the apropriate person will contact you for getting more information and try to resolve with you the bug <Overand> worked fine on my X2 server- but that was amd-64 install <Overand> ah, just read the scrollback. #ubuntu-server 2006-09-30 <Jacob_> Hi... I'm looking for some help on a raid-1... After install the disk resync, but I'm unable to boot from one of the disks (the other one disconnected) - anyone seen this problem before ? <refnumzx> i am having problems, the installer locks up after detecting disk and all other hardware on an hp ml350 g4 ideas? <refnumzx>
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