#ubuntu-touch 2011-09-30 <cnd> bregma: where do we stand on the dbus stuff? <bregma> I'm still working on the dispatch, I'm not happy with it <bregma> (when I get stuck, I wander off and do other things until the solution comes to me) <cnd> heh <cnd> do you have an eta? <bregma> I'm hoping for Monday, but I'm off camping with the cubs this weekend so it might not be until Tuesday <bregma> or longer if I catch pneumonia <cnd> ok <bregma> weather forecast is 4 C and rainy, we're canoeing and camping <bregma> we're going through a march and it's duck hunting season <bregma> *marsh* <cnd> hmmmâ¦ that sounds like a recipe for disaster... <bregma> we will make men and women out of these 7-10-year-olds <bregma> most of the kids around here know all about hunting and living in the back woods, 'cos that's the common lifestyle * bregma cues banjo riff <cnd> heh <cnd> bregma, do you hunt? <bregma> no me <bregma> it's pretty messy <bregma> and game taste too gamey <bregma> birdshot hurts my teeth <cnd> hmm, sounds like valid arguments to me :) <cnd> I would add on top that bad things can happen with guns <bregma> yeah, but around here, you get awfully funny looks if you say things like that <cnd> that's why I live in the city :) <cnd> bregma, I'm working on continuations right now, but it's very tricky <cnd> I have an idea, but I'd like to bounce it off you <cnd> would you be able to mumble? <bregma> sure, gimme a minute... <cnd> bregma: I have some more thoughts <cnd> mumble? #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-04 <cr3> hi folks, I'm running the mtdev-test command on /dev/input/event$NUM for a few systems where two finger scrolling works, but the command returns: could not grab device <dandrader> cr3, that's because the xserver open those files in exclusive mode <dandrader> cr3, you have to issue those commands from a virtual terminal <dandrader> e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1 <cr3> dandrader: thanks, should this page be updated accordingly? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing/CheckingMTDevice <dandrader> cr3, yeah <cr3> is there a way to listen for multitouch activity, preferably not in a virtual terminal <dandrader> cr3, yes, from xserver instead of from evdev files <dandrader> via the XInput2 protocol <dandrader> there's a terminal tool for that <dandrader> xinput test-xi2 <device> <cr3> dandrader: thanks, I'll look into that! #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-05 <cr3> has anyone used a wacom bamboo tablet as a multi touch device? is there anything special I need to do? <cr3> running mtdev-test /dev/input/event12 returns nothing after supported mt events :( <cr3> however, the hardware support page seems to indicate that wacom usb has been supported since 11.04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/HardwareSupport <dandrader> not me <cnd> cr3: the bamboo touch should work out of the box as a touchpad <cnd> which means that X synaptics will grab the dev event node <cnd> so mtdev and any similar programs like evemu and evtest will not work unless you stop X or vt switch away <cr3> cnd: it should work as a touchscreen rather than a touchpad, right? ie, I shouldn't expect to do two finger scrolling, not that I know how to get it working with my finger anyways <cnd> cr3: you can make it behave like a touchscreen if you want <cnd> but by default it behaves like a touchpad <cnd> because it isn't a touchscreen <cnd> and the bamboo touch line is usually a bit too small to actually behave like a touchscreen <cr3> cnd: this is a bamboo tablet (mte-450) though, it behaved like a touchscreen when I plugged it in: http://www.tablet4u.co.uk/product/en/bamboo-tablet.html <cnd> cr3: when you say it behaved like a touchscreen, what exactly do you mean? <cnd> maybe I am misunderstanding <cr3> cnd: heh, and maybe I'm not expressing myself well because this is all new to me :) first, in system settings, it appears as a wacom graphics tablet. second, the tablet only responds to the stylus so I can't imagine how it could be used as a touchpad <cnd> cr3: in X terms, we use "direct" and "indirect" input devices <cnd> a direct input device, like a touchscreen, makes the cursor move to wherever you touch on the device <cnd> if you touch the top left corner, the cursor will move to the top left corner of the screen, no matter where it was previously <cnd> an indirect device will behave like a touchpad, where the cursor movement is controlled by relative motion of the input device <cnd> an indirect device is also a relative device, like a mouse <cnd> in fact, indirect is very similar to "relative", and direct is very similar to "absolute" positioning <cnd> I'm not exactly sure how your bamboo tablet would behave, I was thinking about my bamboo touch, which only has touch input (no pen) <cnd> I actually do expect your tablet to behave like a touchscreen, but we'd have to check to be sure <cnd> if it's behaving like a touchscreen, then it should work with mtdev <cnd> can you run xinput --list --all and pastebin the results? <cr3> cnd: I could try mtdev-test in a vt, one sec <cnd> ok <cr3> cnd: ok, stuff is happening when I run mtdev-test, but I don't see the usual ABS_MT_* at the top of running mtdev-test <cr3> cnd: as for running xinput --list --all, that returns: unable to find device --all <cnd> then my guess would be that your tablet isn't being recognized as a multitouch device <cnd> if it only has pen input, no touch input, then it's just single touch input anyway, right? <cr3> cnd: it could be single touch input, I was hoping it might be more to touch real multitouch devices <cnd> xinput --list --long is what we need <cr3> cnd: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1187794/ <cnd> cr3: yeah, no multitouch :( <cnd> it's just a singletouch pen tablet <cr3> cnd: do you think that the bamboo tablet is essentially like a touchscreen? in other words, are touchscreens multitouch? <cnd> a touchscreen can be single-touch <cnd> so your tablet is like a singletouch touchscreen <cr3> cnd: when a touchpad supports two finger scrolling, is that reall multi touch? <cr3> s/reall/really/ <cnd> it depends <cnd> it might be multi-finger singletouch <cnd> where it reports only one location, but guesses the number of touches on the trackpad <cnd> or it may be full multitouch <cr3> cnd: so, on the CheckingMTDevice wiki page, it says to use mtdev-test to test for multi touch. however, I ran it on a few laptops, some of which didn't even support ABS_MT_*, and it always outputs stuff when moving the touchpad mouse <cr3> cnd: I'm quite sure these laptops are not all multi touch though, so perhaps I'm not looking for the right thing in the output <cnd> hmmmâ¦ that page is out of date... <cr3> some laptops are from 2006, so not recent <cnd> xinput --list is the best way <cnd> you're right that it will always output stuff <cnd> you have to check that mtdev outputs ABS_MT_* <cnd> but that's easier said than done <cr3> cnd: so, if I understand correctly, when mtdev outputs ABS_MT_* that means that the touchpad can report two or more absolute coordinates in order to be considered multitouch, right? <cnd> correct <cr3> cnd: is there a possibility that mtdev outputs ABS_MT_* but physically pressing two fingers on the touchpad doesn't work? in other words, do you think that physical validation of multitouch support will uncover potential problems? <cnd> not likely <cnd> devices need linux drivers to have multitouch suppor <cnd> it doesn't magically occur :) <cnd> so anything that does say it is multitouch almost assuredly is <cr3> cnd: that's great because the test can be automated! however, do you know of a way to script such a test considering that ctrl-alt-f1 to vt in order to run mtdev-test is going to be really difficult to script :) <cnd> well, mtdev-test isn't the best way to go at this point <cr3> cnd: I mean, is there a way to determine whether a touchpad outputs ABS_MT_* other than running mtdev-test in a vt :) <cnd> it would be better to use the output of xinput --list --long <cnd> and look for XITouchClass <cr3> cnd: ok, let me compare a couple systems, one moment.. <cnd> k <cr3> cnd: seems to be quite apparent: Class originated from: 0. Type: XITouchClass <cr3> cnd: could multitouch screens be tested the same way? ie, will they also appear with XITouchClass for a separate input device in the output of xinput --list --long? <cnd> yes, they will have XItouchClass too <cr3> cnd: interesting, a colleague just sent me the output of their xinput --list --long from a laptop that apparently has a multitouch touchscreen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1187841/ <cr3> cnd: from what I can see, it doesn't look like the touchscreen supports multitouch though, right? <cnd> so serial wacom tablets are a bit of a sore point <cnd> they can be multitouch <cnd> but you have to force them into a specific mode using a user-space tool <cnd> I don't really know how to do it myself <cnd> but I know bdmurray has been able to get it to work <cnd> but in its default startup state it behaves like a single touch touchscreen <cr3> cnd: hm, I remember seeing something about wacom serial on the HardwareSupport page under the MultiTouch wiki pages: " Need to use setserial to configure. " <cnd> yeah <cr3> cnd: ok, for enablement purposes, I still want to fail the device because user experience is bad and I want the vender to know about it :) <cnd> I would say so <cnd> if it doesn't boot up into multitouch mode, then it's a poor experience <cr3> cnd: apparently, multitouch worked out of the box in quantal. if you'd like, I could ask him to join this channel if you might have a few questions <cnd> I don't have any questions? <cnd> I personally don't care about wacom <cnd> well, old wacom serial I mean <cnd> they are only two touch <cnd> which doesn't get you much in ubuntu right now <cr3> cnd: if a toushcreen is not reporting XITouchClass, as in the case of wacom serial, but it does actually support two finger touch, how would you suggest I test for that? <cnd> well, that's a practically impossible task <cnd> you can't do anything if the kernel says it's not supported <cr3> cnd: if the kernel says it's not support, how can it work? <cr3> supported even? <cnd> it can't? <cnd> I don't understand what you're asking <cr3> cnd: in this output of xinput, the touchscreen apparently doesn't support multitouch (no XITouchClass) but my colleague says it supports multitouch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1187841/ <cnd> yes <cnd> there's no way for a script to know that <cr3> cnd: to recap, a touchpad or a touchscreen that reports XITouchClass in the output of xinput will necessarily work, but the opposite is not necessarily true where these devices don't report XITouchClass then they might work, right? <cnd> you could say that, but most likely devices that don't have a touch class just aren't multitouch devices <cnd> like your tablet <cnd> it just isn't a multitouch device <cnd> most multitouch devices these days work out of the box <cr3> cnd: if it's not a multitouch device but it behaves well enough according to criteria I'm not in control of, I might want to test physically <cr3> cnd: could you recommend a way for me to detect something like: when user presses two fingers on the touchscreen, the test passes? <cnd> I don't understand <cr3> cnd: for example, would it be possible to listen on the output of xinput test-xi2 for specific events? <cnd> if xinput says it's not multitouch, then it's not multitouch <cnd> it won't work <cnd> you can listen to the output of events from xinput test-xi2 <cnd> it will tell you when there are touch events <cnd> but you won't get any touch events from non-multitouch devices <cr3> cnd: so how does the system simulate support for two finger touch for a wacom serial touchscreen? <cnd> it doesn't <cnd> there's no "simulation" of multitouch <cnd> if it's not multitouch, then it's not multitouch :) <cnd> or the driver doesn't support multitouch, which is basically the same <cnd> as far as any script can tell <cr3> so, it doesn't seem to be possible to determine whether a device that is physically a multitouch actually works as a multitouch device: <cr3> 1. if it's detected as a multitouch device, it'll just work <cr3> 2. if it's not detected as a multitouch device, then who's to know it's physically a multitouch device <cr3> cnd: does that sound about right? <cnd> exactly :) <cr3> cnd: if I wanted to make double sure that multitouch was working, like wearing a belt and suspenders, I would first check for XITouchClass but I would then want to verify physically... <cr3> cnd: if I listen to the output of events from xinput test-xi2, is there anything I should be paying attention to for multitouch events? <cnd> cr3: yes, look for XITouch{Begin,Update,End} events <cr3> cnd: sweet, I think that will make everyone happy :) <cnd> good :) #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-06 <dandrader> bregma, do you recall having looked at this merge request? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/geis/python3-preparation/+merge/100139 <bregma> yes, it looks OK to me <dandrader> alright, thanks <bregma> it did not solve the original python3 problem, which was the XDG generation scripts and not the geis runtime #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-07 <adlr> I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask: When sending ABS_MT events to userspace, the kernel only sends information that's changed, effectively delta compressing the information <adlr> Does anyone here know where the code is that does this compression? I've been grepping for like an hour <cnd> adlr: where in the kernel? <adlr> yeah <cnd> I would guess somewhere in drivers/input/evdev.c <cnd> why do you want to know though? <adlr> debugging a case where I didn't get SYN_DROPPED when I should have <cnd> adlr: looks like it's here: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.5.3/drivers/input/input.c#L166 <cnd> it returns INPUT_IGNORE_EVENT if *pold == *pval <cnd> it's specific only to absolute events though <cnd> as it should be <adlr> yeah, makes sense. thanks very much! <cnd> np <cnd> bregma: would you be able to review this asap? https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/geis/fix-geisv1-class-ids/+merge/123354 <cnd> dandrader is out <bregma> OK <cnd> hmmâ¦ the other option is to say that we've committed to a specific abi <cnd> and we could just change the implementation back to match these hardcoded values <cnd> that way we don't have to rebuild any clients, or force them to build against a specific version of geis <cnd> bregma: what do you think? <bregma> it is an ABI change: existing clients would need to be recompiled for it to work <cnd> yeah <bregma> to avoid an ABI change the new values would have to be mapped to the old values in geis_v1.c <cnd> yeah <cnd> it's a simple change <cnd> I'm leaning towards that instead now <bregma> the proposed change would have subtle breakage with existing clients <cnd> bregma: please review the MP again #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-09 <_PanzerSajt> Hy! I have a omap4460 based tablet dual booting Ubuntu 12.04 and Android 4.0. It has a 10 point multitouch screen, but I wasn't able to get it working under ubuntu. With android it is just working fine. <_PanzerSajt> Here is the output from mtdev-test while touching with 5 fingers: paste.ubuntu.com/1194283/ <yorick> I'm trying to get synaptics gestures working on arch linux <yorick> http://sprunge.us/KRdP is what geistest says <yorick> I don't think it's recognizing anything? should I install a different xorg server? <cnd> yorick: the current gesture stack is built on top of X.org XInput 2.2, which has resulted in some changes to how gestures may be used and tested <cnd> I suggest using geisview to see if you get any gestures <cnd> however, if your trackpad is one of the many that can only report two locations, you won't get any gestures out of utouch <cnd> you can find out if you have a multitouch trackpad by using xinput --list --long <cnd> then find your trackpad and look for an entry for a XITouchClass <WebVisitor-6> buenas <WebVisitor-6> pack need runs utouch? #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-10 <yorick> cnd: "Max number of touches: 2" <yorick> but, how does windows get these multitouch gestures <cnd> yorick: applications can get multitouch gestures by using geis, which is our C wrapper around the gesture engine <cnd> there is also a qml library called oif-qml <cnd> and an older gtk library called libgrip <yorick> cnd: I just want something like touchegg (4-finger flicks for desktop switching) <cnd> yorick: ok, well touchegg theoretically should work for you for two touch gestures <cnd> however, you have to turn off "tap to click" and "two touch scrolling" <cnd> otherwise, the X server will process two touches for these features <yorick> cnd: how does it manage 3-touch gestures in windows? <cnd> what do you mean? <yorick> cnd: under windows I have 3-touch gestures just fine <cnd> your trackpad probably provides locations for two touches <cnd> and then says there are actually three touches in total <cnd> this is very typical for synaptics trackpads <cnd> our stack doesn't support three touches for these trackpads, but it is possible to add in support <cnd> unfortunately, it would first require adding support to the X server <yorick> is it a hardware limitation? <yorick> oh, I see <yorick> goddamnit, HP. <yorick> "see, it's multi-touch, it can keep track of TWO fingers at once!" <cnd> yorick: yeah (sorry for the late response) <cnd> for a long time, apple was the only company putting out real full multitouch devices <yorick> cnd: what companies have them now? <cnd> synaptics has full multitouch now <cnd> on their latest models <cnd> I'm not sure of others #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-11 <cr3> hi folks, is there a way to determine whether a device is a touchpad or a touchscreen from the output of xinput --list --long? <cr3> can I assume that a touchscreen will not have the XIScrollClass type? <cnd> cr3: if it's a touchscreen it will be of XIDirectTouch mode <cnd> a touchpad will be of XIDependentTouch mode <cr3> cnd: I see it, Touch mode: direct, thanks! <cnd> cr3: np :) <cr3> this is also pretty cool, I didn't notice it before: Max number of touches: 9 <cnd> yep <cnd> 9 is an odd number though... <cnd> never seen that before <cr3> cnd: it's a "Quanta OpticalTouchScreen" <cnd> ok <cnd> haven't played with one of those myself #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-13 <cr3> I'd appreciate if someone could help me understand the output of the classes output by the xinput command. for example, is it possible for a device to not have a class? #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-14 <cnd> cr3: that would be odd <cnd> I suppose it theoretically could be possible? <cnd> but extremely unlikely #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-24 <WebVisitor-0> Hello there <WebVisitor-0> Im wondering where I could get some help with dual multitouch monitor set and ubuntu 12.04? :) <WebVisitor-0> Im wondering where I could get some help with dual multitouch monitor set and ubuntu 12.04? :) <WebVisitor-0> anyone? :( #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-26 <eric-yorba> Could someone answer a question for me? I'm trying to get the built-in QML multitouch components to work on my system. <eric-yorba> I've got an Apple Magic trackpad set up and the basics work (two finger scrolling, etc.) but it seems Qt isn't getting the touch events #ubuntu-touch 2012-09-28 <cr3> if anyone happens to have a touchscreen detected as a multitouch device, would you mind sharing the output of xinput --list --long? <dandrader> cr3, I have one <dandrader> cr3, just a sec <cr3> dandrader: thanks, let me know if you need my email address if it'll make things easier <dandrader> I can just pastebin it <cr3> dandrader: that works for me <dandrader> cr3, that's the relevant bit http://paste.ubuntu.com/1248302/ <dandrader> but I don't recall if the events when I tested, came from "N-Trig MultiTouch" or "N-Trig Touchscreen" <cr3> dandrader: probably from "N-Trig MultiTouch" since it's the only one with the XITouchClass class <dandrader> I always wondered why there are those two virtual devices if my laptop has only one touchscreen (what's the function of each) but I never mustered the energy to investigate the answer <dandrader> sould be <cr3> dandrader: I've been wondering what the purpose of the Virtual core pointer device that seems to be a superset of other devices <dandrader> one thing is that many input devices can control the same, single, mouse pointer on the screen <dandrader> likewise for keyboard/text input <dandrader> or maybe that's the whole point <cr3> dandrader: hm, that's indeed weird about input devices #ubuntu-touch 2013-09-01 <sethj> How far alone is the email app? <sethj> Does it support MS exchange? <AskUbuntu> Does Ubuntu Phone connect natively to Exchange? | http://askubuntu.com/q/339896 <sethj> oh lol <discopig> hi <AskUbuntu> Phablet-tools install | http://askubuntu.com/q/339915 <RobbyF> kind of a shot in the dark here but anyone awake? <RobbyF> the gmail app is essentially a tabbed browser right? can some techy person make a google plus version of it :) <OrokuSaki> https://github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch for myself.. and others.. but more for me <OrokuSaki> Have to add notes <OrokuSaki> Notes added. https://github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch <just> hello <Guest74442> ? <Guest74442> help.. <Guest74442> for installing <Guest74442> ubuntu on tablet <Guest74442> slept? <smartboyhw> Guest74442, what happened? <smartboyhw> I mean, what's your problem on installing? <Guest74442> i wanna install ubuntu on my tablet <smartboyhw> Guest74442, yes <Guest74442> from starting.. <smartboyhw> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install <Guest74442> see i have my tab.. <Guest74442> 7" ics <Guest74442> is it possible to mod it? <Guest74442> dual core.. <Guest74442> 512 <Guest74442> 4gb internal <Guest74442> ? <Guest74442> are u hre to help <Guest74442> then hepl me man <Guest74442> i cant install it on my desktop <Guest74442> ? <Guest74442> hey <balachmar> Guest74442: This channel is about Ubuntu Touch, to be installed on mobile devices, what do you want to install on your desktop? <OrokuSaki> lol <OrokuSaki> HELP ME!!!! <OrokuSaki> I will pound sand if you don't!!! <auronandace> poor sand <OrokuSaki> hehe <balachmar> lol <OrokuSaki> hows it going balachmar <OrokuSaki> did you get the kernel config message? <balachmar> I always like to give them the friendly response :) <OrokuSaki> I hate that! <OrokuSaki> Happy Holidays.. says the walmart greeter with a smile.. and I yell.. Merry Fucking Christmas you wench! <balachmar> No such experiences here in Europe I can guarantee you that :) <OrokuSaki> =) <balachmar> When I was in the US, I thought it was weird that the waiter would introduce himself.... <OrokuSaki> It's really bad when they go on and on about the restaurant your at <balachmar> But about UT, if I understood you correctly, I just changed a file, where I should have run some config thing on the kernel. But you lost me on how I could actually do it :) <balachmar> So help me, or I will pound sand! :P <OrokuSaki> okay do this <OrokuSaki> mkdir ~/kernel <OrokuSaki> copy your kernel source into that folder <OrokuSaki> what is the name of your defconfig file? <OrokuSaki> mine is cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig <OrokuSaki> so what I do is this <OrokuSaki> cd ~/kernel <balachmar> cyanogenmod_galaxysmtd_defconfig <OrokuSaki> cp arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig ~/kernel/.config <balachmar> I guess you want me to copy the entire source tree, including samsung etc, correct? <OrokuSaki> or cp ~/kernel/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig ~/kernel/.config <OrokuSaki> then since your in ~/kernel <OrokuSaki> pico .config (make all your changes) <OrokuSaki> make oldconfig ARCH=arm <balachmar> Should I now revert my changes to that file? <OrokuSaki> this will ask yes or no questions.. answer them <OrokuSaki> yes you should <OrokuSaki> well... yeah <balachmar> ok :) <OrokuSaki> probably not actually <OrokuSaki> you don't have to <balachmar> ok, because it will overwrite it... yes? <balachmar> I amtrying to understand the proces <OrokuSaki> anways.. when you run make oldconfig ARCH=arm hang on well get back to that.. you then answer yes or no questions <balachmar> ok <OrokuSaki> because you changed the .config file, this now creates new yes or no questions for the kernel that are not present in the .config file but need to be <OrokuSaki> so running make oldconfig ARCH=arm will answer the questions <OrokuSaki> then you do this <OrokuSaki> cp .config arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig <OrokuSaki> or just copy it back to the Ubuntu Touch directory <OrokuSaki> the kernel source MUST be clean so run make mrproper if all else fails <OrokuSaki> Now back to if you should use your current defconfig as your .config file <OrokuSaki> Shouldn't hurt.. you made changes to the config file so.. even if you used a stock defconfig file... you will still have to recreate your changes <OrokuSaki> Make sense? <balachmar> yes <OrokuSaki> I cannot use make menuconfig on my kernel source.. so we make the changes manually in the .config file and then run make oldconfig <OrokuSaki> Or that is what I have been doing <OrokuSaki> Sweet <balachmar> ok, I need to type this in the terminal?: "make oldconfig ARCH=arm" <OrokuSaki> smoke break.. I need to quit.. working on camera.. I think mine is being detected as front facing when I need bak <OrokuSaki> yep <balachmar> Because that doesn't work <OrokuSaki> what happens? <balachmar> make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'. Stop. <OrokuSaki> that means the .config file is not in the root of your kernel source <OrokuSaki> it is hidden when it's called .config <OrokuSaki> you can see it with ls -a <OrokuSaki> you may know that, you may not <balachmar> I know :) <OrokuSaki> =) <OrokuSaki> or try make ARCH=arm oldconfig <balachmar> I think I shouldn't have copied the tree, but just the contents of /kernel/samsung/aries to ~/kernel <OrokuSaki> yes! <balachmar> :) <OrokuSaki> smoke break! <balachmar> (I did ask :P ) <balachmar> sure <balachmar> ok, now it is doing something <balachmar> and asking questions <balachmar> ok, nut how do I know the answers to all of those questions? <balachmar> nut = but <OrokuSaki> You don't hang on <OrokuSaki> I looked at a mako config file that was hard to find <OrokuSaki> http://pastebin.com/PuyL1qBe Here it is <OrokuSaki> search that paste for CONFIG_ whatever and see what the answer is <balachmar> ok, thanks! <OrokuSaki> config-3.4.0-3-mako <OrokuSaki> that was the filename <OrokuSaki> you brunch mako and then look at the config file <OrokuSaki> NP <OrokuSaki> Oh yeah... you know the proc patch on the ubuntu porting guide? <OrokuSaki> you don't need that anymore.. that was for quantal <OrokuSaki> Saucy uses LXC container and so this is not required.. I guess that is the reason <balachmar> the procfs patch? <OrokuSaki> and your kernel cmdline needs to be console=tty1 <OrokuSaki> will append that console=tty1 to the rest of the cmdline <balachmar> because I did perform that change... <OrokuSaki> You will need to enable apparmor <OrokuSaki> undo it.. it is no longer required <OrokuSaki> I felt the same way.. the ubuntu porting guide is outdated <OrokuSaki> very outdated <balachmar> bummer <OrokuSaki> I think its because saucy is not really.. finished.. as is changing.. and so why right a guide to something your changing? <balachmar> not set is the same as answering no to a question? <OrokuSaki> no this was editing a .c file in the kernel source <balachmar> the last question was about the kernel config bit :) <balachmar> doing two things at the same time :) <OrokuSaki> a/fs/proc/array.c that file <OrokuSaki> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting <OrokuSaki> don't do that <OrokuSaki> not necessary <OrokuSaki> What kernel do you have? 2.x or 3.x? <balachmar> 3.x <balachmar> running 13.04 <OrokuSaki> Good.. look at mako's security and apparmor settings.. <OrokuSaki> if you want to know if your cmdline change took affect when the kernel boots <OrokuSaki> cat /proc/cmdline <OrokuSaki> I had to tell my config to force the cmdline or something <OrokuSaki> there was a y n for that <balachmar> ok, patch undone <OrokuSaki> sweet <balachmar> ok, but when in the config of mako it says unset, is that answering no to the question? <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy.git has the apparmor patches broken out for the different kernel versions. Which might help porting to a new kernel <balachmar> And sometimes there is a "" as a value in the config file, that is just pressing return on that question? <OrokuSaki> @jjohansen Oh yeah.. thanks! <OrokuSaki> my kernel is 2.6.35 so I don't have apparmor and had to do apparmor=0 for my cmdline <OrokuSaki> https://raw.github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch/master/Source%20to%20compile/kernel/hp/tenderloin/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_tenderloin_defconfig <OrokuSaki> I remember enabling these... CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: Hrrmm, the apparmor3 patches have only been backported as far as 3.0 atm <OrokuSaki> Yep... I will never get apparmor... =) Or fanotify <jjohansen> OrokuSaki: hrmm a 2.6.35 apparmor is possible and may happen, just not yet <OrokuSaki> sweet.. my friend did it for 2.6.35 but he also backported KGSL.. and I cannot use both.. I tried his patches.. and they appled.. but.. wouldn't boot <OrokuSaki> his backporting kgsl from 3.0.8 from webos kernel... broke the anroid egl driver <OrokuSaki> but works great on freedreno <OrokuSaki> Freedreno is an open source gpu driver for qualcomm adreno gpu's <OrokuSaki> I use it on Ubuntu 13.04 <OrokuSaki> non touch <jjohansen> ah, right <OrokuSaki> That is where I was going <OrokuSaki> =) <OrokuSaki> Intereted to see Mir on Desktop with Nvidia <OrokuSaki> Or Mir on Desktop version of ubuntu but on msm8660 as the gpu =) <OrokuSaki> So I can run mono apps <OrokuSaki> My touchpad triple boots webos, Ubuntu 13.04, and Ubuntu Touch =) <OrokuSaki> I should not have brewed coffee <jjohansen> right, well the current apparmor3 backports have been done so that they don't change the kernel abi, everything is internal to the apparmor module, I think that can be done back to 2.6.35 but I don't have time to do it atm <OrokuSaki> Oh wow.. you do that? Sweet! Well... uhh.. that would be neat <OrokuSaki> What about fanotify? <OrokuSaki> Is that really important? <OrokuSaki> if (read_mode_from_config("preview_mode") == 1) { info->facing = CAMERA_FACING_BACK; } <OrokuSaki> I notice when I run the camera app.. I believe it says preview mode is 2 or a mode is 2 <OrokuSaki> so maybe that is causing ubuntu to say this camera is not facing back <OrokuSaki> and then causing the image to mirror, and rotate 90 degrees <OrokuSaki> dmesg says that mode 2 something 5 <jjohansen> fanotify is a lot harder and would require changing the abi to backport it <OrokuSaki> yeah.. I saw that <jjohansen> I don't see it happening <OrokuSaki> I tried it one time.. and I gregory37@example.net... I realized you were successful, then it changes the android code that goes along with it <OrokuSaki> Which is why qualcomm updates the android code along with an updated kernel <OrokuSaki> something to do with ashmem or memory changes <OrokuSaki> at this point your more or less upgrading the kernel to 3.0.x and you might as well.. just.. use that kernel <OrokuSaki> right? <jjohansen> yeah ashmem, binder, wakelocks <OrokuSaki> yah <OrokuSaki> I remember posting somewhere.. this should be easy... NOT <OrokuSaki> greped for 3 days straight or something <jjohansen> ouch <AskUbuntu> I need help with my Ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/339996 <markusN00b> Hi, is there a way to access hardware with your app. (SDK) <markusN00b> Let's say I want to turn the light on/off <WebbyIT> popey, mhall119 , did you see that? http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge-reprise-developer-edition <popey> yes, reported it to indiegogo <WebbyIT> good <OrokuSaki> Anyone know if the camera app can take a 640x480 image and change the orientation, or does it not use overlay, etc? <OrokuSaki> I want to rotate 90 degrees <OrokuSaki> I have tried setting info->orientation = 90; info->orientation = 0; in my cameraHAL.cpp file <lauri> Hello, is Eoghan here? The dude who was planning to port Ubuntu Touch to Oppo Find 5? <paco664> good morning.. curious as to what version to install for a galaxy nexus "toro" <OrokuSaki> Anyone know how the camera-app gets the orientation?? grrr <RobbyF> Good Morning Ubuntu Touch friends <rathamst> how much space does a default installation of ubuntu touch take on mako? <AskUbuntu> How much space does a default installation of Ubuntu Touch take on mako? | http://askubuntu.com/q/340097 <DrDangerousDave> Nexus 10 keyboard closes when key pressed - known bug? <RobbyF> the gmail app is essentially a tabbed browser right? can some techy person make a google plus version of it? :) <DrDangerousDave> Is there a terminal app I can install on Nexus 10 / manta ? <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy 4 israel&usa??? <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? <qdhfgfgh3gg1> ÙÙ ØªØªØ¬Ø³Ø³ Ø¨Ø±Ø§Ù Ø¬ Ø§ÙØ´Ø§Øª Ù Ø§ÙØªÙØ§ØµÙ Ø§ÙØ§Ø¬ØªÙ Ø§Ø¹Ù ÙØ§Ø³Ø±Ø§Ø¦ÙÙ Ù Ø§Ù Ø±ÙÙØ§ØØØØ <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog(facebook&twitter) spy4israel&usa??? <qdhfgfgh3gg1> Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? <qdhfgfgh3gg1> ÙÙ ØªØªØ¬Ø³Ø³ Ø¨Ø±Ø§Ù Ø¬ Ø§ÙØ´Ø§Øª Ù Ø§ÙØªÙØ§ØµÙ Ø§ÙØ§Ø¬ØªÙ Ø§Ø¹Ù ÙØ§Ø³Ø±Ø§Ø¦ÙÙ Ù Ø§Ù Ø±ÙÙØ§ØØØØ <ahayzen-mobile> !ops <ubot5> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - oubiwann, corp186, popey, k1l, Corey, wgrant, idleone, and ogra. <Codesmith> Hi, I've flashed ubuntu-touch onto my nexus 4, and I'm wondering if it is recomended to create and use another user besides the default phablet user? <deiu> Codesmith, you should at least change the default password <wellsb> Dang, still network issues on latest build, but this time wpa_supplicant isn't resolving them <abhi_> could someone please give me the link to the latest build for nexus 4 ? <wellsb> finally <pyrex> has anyone tried to install ubuntu on the nexus 7 2013 <DrDangerousDave> Anybody out there using Touch on Nexus 10? <discopig> nope, just nexus 4 <DrDangerousDave> How is it on Nexus 4? I get all kinds of app lockups and goofy screens on Nexus 10 <NitroZZeLLo> Hi Guys! Need info of whom is working on the HTC One S in order to offer myself to help in porting Ubuntu Touch to that phone <petr> hey <Guest78151> someone who already installed the ubuntu touch <DrDangerousDave> Was that a question? <balachmar> OrokuSaki: wow man, many questions for the kernel config. Takes a while if you check everything with another config file... (Haven't been on it continuously, but I have been on it for a bit :) ) <OrokuSaki> I have changed my cameraHAL.cpp to say both info->facing = CAMERA_FACING_FRONT; info->orientation = 270; for all preview modes.. and no change if I change my camera to back or orientation, etc <ulr1ch> et le hack tu t'en sors ? <OrokuSaki> did I hack the sensors? <ulr1ch> (sorry, wrong channel) <OrokuSaki> =) <NYL> should i use flippedin instead of standard tutorial? #ubuntu-touch 2013-09-02 <MacLaren> hello, i am just look for some help <MacLaren> i am currently trying the ubuntu 13.10. But it seems i ma missing some of the apps ie. Document viewer <MacLaren> and way i can add these apps? <wilee-nilee> MacLaren, you tries sudo apt-get install <wilee-nilee> tried* <RobbyF> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection <RobbyF> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily <RobbyF> sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps touch-collection <MacLaren> within Ubuntu the terminal app? in 13.10? <RobbyF> yup <RobbyF> don't forget to update obviouusly <MacLaren> i would like to, but it asks for a root password <RobbyF> phablet is pw <MacLaren> i dont know thats -_- <wilee-nilee> user password <MacLaren> ok <MacLaren> lemme try what you guys said <wilee-nilee> there is no root password <MacLaren> nope,the document viewer and other missing apps are still not there, rebooting now <MacLaren> i take that back -_- <MacLaren> reboot did the trick, sorry <MacLaren> another question, any way to get music/contact on this? <MacLaren> the music app still dosent work :/ <AskUbuntu> Install ubuntu touch on toro | http://askubuntu.com/q/340268 <john____> hi <john____> busy <ikarus_> ugh, can someone please just gather the info you need for sticking Ubuntu on a tf300, instead of linking half a dozen xda-developers posts written by people who don't understand Linux.... <ikarus_> (I guess I'll do it on the wiki <ikarus_> also, how easy is it to stick another window manager on ubuntu touch installations ? a tf300 is not handicapped due to lack of a touchpad and keyboard <discopig> ikarus_, i think with mir it would be relatively easy <discopig> it would probably be just a matter of starting mir then starting a window manager <discopig> and getting mir to work on ubuntu touch isn't too hard <discopig> i'd test myself but I'd need to reflash my nexus 4 <ikarus_> discopig: thing is, no one but Ubuntu uses Mir, so neither do the window managers I want, just get me a good old X11 session <diwic> b <diwic> how does one close/kill an application under Ubuntu touch? <diwic> is there a gui way or do you have to use the terminal? <SeanHosie54> Hi guys, just wondering if someone can help me with my nexus 10 ubuntu installation when I try to deploy the image to the device it pops up with (FAILED (remote: signature verification failed!)) <SeanHosie54> <SeanHosie54> anyone able to help? <dholbach> good morning <mzanetti> tvoss: hi, I've been testing the location stuff on the weekend <tvoss> mzanetti, working? <mzanetti> tvoss: in general, works quite nicely, but I found 2 issues I think <tvoss> mzanetti, shoot <popey> mzanetti: got sample qml code? <mzanetti> tvoss: QGeoPositionInfoSour33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99absetInterval() doesn't seem to be working. The source trows positioninfo every half a second. <tvoss> mzanetti, yeah, known issue <popey> mzanetti: the core apps devs could really benefit from some sample code to implement location detection in their apps <tvoss> popey, qtlocation examples are a good place to start <mzanetti> tvoss: the other is that I had lots of crashes when opening the device <popey> if you can point me at a specific one I can paste into a new qml project I'd appreciate it â» <tvoss> mzanetti, how do you mean opening the device? <popey> (and it work) <mzanetti> tvoss: when creating the QGeoPositionInforSource object <mzanetti> tvoss: I think it happens when 2 application try to access it at the same time <tvoss> mzanetti, hmmm ... there is an open issue where the default source selection is not deterministic. Let me see if it helps when we force it to the ubuntu location provider <mzanetti> popey: well... its so simple... the doc really should be enough <popey> yeah, people say that <popey> and none, _none_ of the examples we ship work <popey> i filed bugs <mzanetti> really? <tvoss> popey, http://qt.developpez.com/doc/5.0-snapshot/declarative-flickr/ <popey> yes <tvoss> popey, flickr works fo rme <popey> bug 1214369 <mzanetti> popey: what I think is wea more important, is to tell people that they should stop the source when its not needed etc <ubot5> bug 1214369 in qtlocation-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Examples in qtlocation5-examples don't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214369 <popey> bug 1214368 <ubot5> Error: Launchpad bug 1214368 could not be found <popey> bah <popey> "qml_location_flickr crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance()" <mzanetti> popey: ah... yeah, the location examples only work since last thursday <mzanetti> popey: the map doesn't crash any more since last weekend, and the positioninfo started working end of last week only <popey> super! <popey> thanks chaps, will re-try with an up to date image <mzanetti> popey: in case you're interested: http://gitorious.org/getmewheels/getmewheels2/source/1442af229209bbaa2ae177c7752cf566b6711d37: <popey> ooh, nice! <popey> is that like the Zipcar? * mzanetti googles tipcar * mzanetti googles zipcar <popey> hourly rental of cars nearby <mzanetti> popey: nope. much cooler <popey> hehe <mzanetti> popey: there are like 250 cars distributed over the whole city <mzanetti> popey: you can just jump on and off however you want. leaving the car wherever you want (as long as within the city boundries) <popey> you dont have to take it back to its home? <mzanetti> no <popey> that _is_ cool! <popey> there would end up being a pile of cars outside my house though :D <mzanetti> there's enough people that would drive them back to the city center <mzanetti> and then taking the cab home because they're drunk <mzanetti> thats what I do at least :D <popey> hah â» <mzanetti> this app shows you a map with all the cars so can easily find them. and you can book them for half a hour so noone can steal it from you <popey> omg! they have them in the uk <mzanetti> yep. in london so far <mzanetti> it started off here in Ulm 3 years ago... when I wrote the app, only Ulm and Austin-Texas were supported. by now its like 15 cities all over the globe. and new ones are appearing every 2 months or so <popey> That's great, hadn't heard of it. Ta! <mamenyaka> diwic, hi, do you have a moment please? <diwic> mamenyaka, hi <mamenyaka> diwic, for the n8000, sinks are detected, no sound <mamenyaka> diwic, HiFi file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054406/ <diwic> mamenyaka, there were some .state files in there too, right? <Laney> mpt: Hi, happy Monday! Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone - should the "Switching from/to" titles be sentence case? <diwic> mamenyaka, in the link you posted a few days ago <mamenyaka> diwic, yes <mamenyaka> diwic, the link: https://code.google.com/p/opensgn/source/browse/data/n8000/usr/share/alsa/ucm/Midas_WM1811/ <diwic> mamenyaka, perhaps you could look at that file, and for every control in there, change it manually to what the state file says <diwic> mamenyaka, and see if that can make sound work <mamenyaka> diwic, can you give me an example? <diwic> mamenyaka, let's try something else. I assume PulseAudio is running on the HiFi profile. Run "alsactl store -f /tmp/speaker.state" <diwic> mamenyaka, then diff /tmp/speaker.state against init.state and see what differences you find <mamenyaka> diwic, okay, give me a moment <mamenyaka> diwic, just downloading the 0902 iamge <Laney> mpt: Moving from #-desktop - are the "two fields" there an entry and confirmation text entry? <Laney> If so, how should we give feedback when the entries don't match? <mamenyaka> diwic, a question regarding my other device with no h2w/state; shouldn't the default state be the speakers? <diwic> mamenyaka, the default is to remember what you have previously <mamenyaka> and if there is no previous? <diwic> s/have/had <diwic> mamenyaka, then it should pick the one with highest priority <mamenyaka> can I change the priority? <mamenyaka> it showed as I remember 100 for both <diwic> mamenyaka, try adding "PlaybackPriority 200" in the "Value" section for speakers <diwic> mamenyaka, just below "PlaybackChannels" <mamenyaka> diwic, thank you, I will try it later, now installing for the n8000 <mamenyaka> diwic, alsactl is in which package? <ogra_> mamenyaka, alsa-utils, it is pre-installed <mamenyaka> ogra_, thank you, but it doesn't show up <mamenyaka> oh, sorry <mamenyaka> it doesn't show up as phablet user <ogra_> ?? <mamenyaka> $ alsactl <mamenyaka> -su: alsactl: command not found <ogra_> surely does ... unless oyu messed up your path <ogra_> dont ever use su <mamenyaka> oh now <ogra_> sudo -u phablet -i <mamenyaka> oh <mamenyaka> thank you <ogra_> cjwatson, do you know whats the reason that we dont adjust the path and environment with su ? <mamenyaka> diwic, no speaker.state file <cjwatson> ogra_: use "su -" rather than su <diwic> mamenyaka, weird, did it perhaps save /var/lib/alsa/asound.state <cjwatson> defined interface since forever <mamenyaka> diwic, empty dir <mamenyaka> I used su - phablet <ogra_> cjwatson, right, but why dont we just use the proper user PATH that we use everywhere else ? (sudo and login set it properly) <cjwatson> that's odd, it should, I'll have a look in a bit <ogra_> without having to use a switch <diwic> mamenyaka, any errors? <ogra_> ENV_SUPATH PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin <ogra_> ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games <ogra_> from login.defs <mamenyaka> diwic, paplay runs fine <cjwatson> err - that's a regression, I'm sure <ogra_> k, i thought there was probably a decision i missed :) <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneTruePath <ogra_> yeah <cjwatson> perhaps su has lost pam_env or something <diwic> mamenyaka, it runs fine on the N4 under the phablet user <diwic> mamenyaka, did you run exactly "alsactl store -f /tmp/speaker.state" ? <cjwatson> ok, for those here who care about PPAs, I think we have now actually managed to patch things up so that the build farm will spend less time at half capacity <diwic> mamenyaka, no need to su to anything else <mamenyaka> diwic, I can try running it, but I have no speaker.state file, checked tmp <cjwatson> so the current hideous queue should manage to drain <diwic> mamenyaka, it will create the speaker.state file <ogra_> yay <mamenyaka> nono, that su thing was only for switching to phablet, now I know the right way to do that <mamenyaka> diwic, <mamenyaka> diwic, okay <mamenyaka> that I didn't know, sorry <mamenyaka> so now I compare <diwic> mamenyaka, compare speaker.state with init.state you found on the opensgn website <mamenyaka> diwic, doing that right now <mamenyaka> diwic, quite a lot of differences <mamenyaka> diwic, if you are interested, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054522/ <diwic> mamenyaka, always run diff with the -u switch <diwic> mamenyaka, then it becomes more readable :-) <mamenyaka> diwic, I just used Meld to compare, but thanks :) <mamenyaka> diwic, yes, this is more friendly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054528/ <diwic> mamenyaka, e g, "Speaker Mixer Volume" should probably be turned up, since it is '3' on init.state and '0' on speaker.state? <diwic> mamenyaka, and 'Speaker Reference' <diwic> mamenyaka, and 'DAC1 Switch' and 'DAC2 Switch' <diwic> mamenyaka, and 'SPKR DAC2 Switch' <mamenyaka> diwic, where do I need to edit? <diwic> mamenyaka, and 'SPKR DAC1 Switch' and 'SPKL DAC1 Switch' and 'SPKL DAC2 Switch' <mamenyaka> or how do I overwrite it? <mamenyaka> with my init.state <diwic> mamenyaka, either in EnableSequence for Speaker or in the EnableSequence for the HiFi verb, depending on whether you need it for headphones too, or not <mamenyaka> diwic, what is the command to call the init.state? <diwic> mamenyaka, "alsactl restore -f /path/to/init.state" <mamenyaka> diwic, should I worry? alsactl: set_control:1325: failed to obtain info for control #150 (No such file or directory) <mamenyaka> diwic, but still no sound <diwic> mamenyaka, okay, you can take a new state (alsactl store -f /tmp/foo.state) to verify that the values changed to what you expected <mamenyaka> diwic, no, looks like still the same <mamenyaka> diwic, this is what I get on restore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054567/ <mamenyaka> diwic, the diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054571/ <diwic> mamenyaka, so, hopefully it's only about setting up the mixer correctly, but we can't know for sure. You can use amixer, alsamixer and alsactl to get and set the current mixer values until you get something working. <diwic> mamenyaka, if you need to do something more than just setting up the mixer, that would probably be hiding in the audio HAL code, if you have access to that. <mamenyaka> diwic, thank you, I will try my best <jamesh> ogra_: hi. One thing I ran into when getting mediascanner running on the phone is that we don't support XDG user dirs out of the box. I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-session/+bug/1219348 about it, which is hopefully the right place <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1219348 in ubuntu-touch-session (Ubuntu) "Image doesn't support XDG User DIrs spec" [Undecided,New] <mamenyaka> diwic, with amixer, do I need to manually set everything_ <mamenyaka> ? <diwic> mamenyaka, once you get things working, you should modify the UCM files to do the same. <ogra_> jamesh, if your service runs as the user you should get the dirs i think <ogra_> seb128, ^^^ ? <jamesh> ogra_: there was no ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file, so it wasn't working. <seb128> ogra_, jamesh: in the latest discussions it was not clear they wanted to support customisable/translatables dirs in touch <seb128> that adds complexity and overhead <seb128> especially for the app isolation/apparmor <ogra_> who does that discussion ? <seb128> lool jdstrand tvoss <asac> oSoMoN: hello. any idea what could be wrong on the maguro tests failing? <ogra_> i think the mediascanner part is rather a system service, isnt it ?? <jamesh> seb128: if we don't support customisable user dirs, we could still provide the config file pointing at the non-translated dirs <seb128> jamesh, that would work for me <oSoMoN> asac: hi, Iâm investigating <tvoss> ogra_, it is, or more precisely, a session service <jamesh> that way code that is written against the spec would still work <ogra_> tvoss, ah, thanks <oSoMoN> asac: mmm, looks like they didnât run at all <asac> oSoMoN: webbrowser didnt <asac> the rest did <asac> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3906/camera-app-autopilot/329637/ <asac> camera <asac> something fishy with a PID <ogra_> but had failures it didnt have on mako <asac> oSoMoN: we will retry webbrowser <asac> psivaa: can you do that? <psivaa> asac: tests for today's image have started to run <psivaa> asac: i'll re-run webbrowser if today's one fails too <asac> psivaa: ok <oSoMoN> asac: all the failing tests for camera-app seem to have this error message: Camera error: "Unable to connect to camera" <asac> ogra_: ^^ that feels like us? <asac> ogra_: did we change anything? when was the last test success there? <ogra_> asac, no idea when the last success was there, but rsalveti changed some bots on the android side iirc <ogra_> along with the switch to pulse <ogra_> s/bots/bits/ <davmor2> Morning all <kokoye2007> hello <kokoye2007> where can check support CPU list <lool> dholbach: it's nice to be able to install new packages that were uploaded since friday :-) <lool> I tried the lighbulb game <lool> works on read-only image <lool> there are a bunch of small bugs in the user experience, but it works <ogra_> kokoye2007, cortex A9 and above CPUs are supported by ubuntu touch <segastep> yey i have A9 <ogra_> (technically you can run on A8 too, but single core wont be fun to use) <kokoye2007> thx ogra_ <kokoye2007> MTK6589T is can't ? <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-extras/+bug/1219765, can you please have a look? <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1219765 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit Extras "qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras0.1 doesnât install assets" [Undecided,New] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: looking <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: also filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-extras/+bug/1219766 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1219766 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit Extras "Share.qml: Binding loop detected for property "height"" [Undecided,New] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: the first one is a good catch. the second one i noticed too but from looking into it for a while but IIRC could not find
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