#ubuntustudio 2010-09-01 <bartje> hi all <bartje> I've got a question about inputs, got an onboard sound card, with line in on the back, and a mic in on the front. Alsa mixer shows two seperate sliders for them, does that mean I somehow can use them both for recording with jack two? In pulse audio I can select only 1 input connector though <antagomir> hello <antagomir> i will occasionally use a laptop (HP Elitebook 2540p with 4G SDRAM memory, 1333MHz) to edit DV/HD video material, as a hobby. Otherwise, I will need the laptop for office work (writing reports, web surfing, mail etc) <antagomir> I was wondering whether ubuntu studio would be a good choice there. <antagomir> any tips? I thought that the studio version might make things easier with video and music stuff, but how it is compatible with other needs.? <holstein> antagomir: hello <holstein> are you using ubuntu 10.04 right now? <antagomir> holstein yes i am <holstein> i wouldnt install ubuntustudio over ubuntu <holstein> just add some of the packages you need <holstein> and go for it <holstein> you can search in synaptic for ubuntustudio <holstein> really the only one you need is ubuntustudio-video <holstein> maybe ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins <antagomir> ok <antagomir> tnx <holstein> anytime <holstein> you can always add them later <holstein> getting rid of them can be a bit trickier <holstein> the themeing and all that <holstein> the ubuntustudio themes are really nice though <antagomir> ok #ubuntustudio 2010-09-02 <prep> Holstein my man <prep> anyone on? <holstein> prep: hey <holstein> how goes it? <prep> need to pick your brain. Trying to install some plugs. Getting an error> I'm good, worn out <holstein> yeah, i had a long day myselg <holstein> yeah, i had a long day myself** <holstein> what are you installing? <holstein> extra plugins from the repo? <prep> http://code.google.com/p/juced/wiki/ApplicationVex <holstein> these are great by the sway <holstein> these are great by the way** <holstein> http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/index.html <holstein> the JACK ones are totally free to try <holstein> with no limitations <holstein> free to use i should say <holstein> prep: have you been over to #opensourcemusicians yet? <holstein> theres a great MIDI guy there <holstein> [lsd] <holstein> hes the guy that wrote these http://wootangent.net/category/music/tutorials/ <prep> I have seen these plugs loaded in Ardour in some ad's. <holstein> well, that one is an instrument <holstein> so you probably dont load that in ardour <prep> I have, I don't see a forum on there. <holstein> forum on? <prep> I know that, I want to use in LMMS, QTractor <holstein> yeah, [lsd] is a qtractor guy <holstein> come on over there :) <holstein> /j #opensourcemusicians <prep> ah, IRC? <prep> says podcast <prep> on that opensourcemusicians <holstein> yeah, its both <prep> ok, I'll try him. HP has the new dual core Atoms, I think I'm getting the 211. Wish System 76 etc would update to the new ones * holstein has used nekobee before <holstein> i think you can do well with xsynth or whysynth <holstein> there are on that tutorial <holstein> and in the repos <prep> you didn't like nekobee? <holstein> it was OK <jussi> PEOPLES!!!!!!!!!! if we dont test the beta, it wont be released!! TEST TEST TEST!!! URGENT!!! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all <prep> Having issues with broken packages <holstein> prep: AH <holstein> falk's PPA <holstein> you might have to purge it <holstein> theres an easy way to purge PPA's <holstein> in http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ * holstein gotta go get some food while the testing iso is coming in :) <prep> will EnergyXT work out of the box with Lynx? I see outout, but am not getting output * holstein never tried energyXT <holstein> prep: falk is over in #kxstudio <holstein> if you need to ask about that PPA #ubuntustudio 2010-09-04 <markie-> I have a midi controller keyboard (evolution) and would like to use it with linux, just wondering what's the best application for that? <holstein> markie-: lots of applications <holstein> does it work? * holstein phone <markie-> holstein: so i need a synthesizer, but which one will make my midi controller into all different kinds of instruments? <holstein> does the controller work? <holstein> what it is? <holstein> USB? <markie-> yea usb <holstein> is it recognized by linux? <markie-> yea <holstein> do you run JACK? <markie-> well going to <holstein> OK <holstein> after getting JACK running <holstein> its easy to JACK you USB controller to whatever you want <markie-> alright then i shall use JACK for that <holstein> http://wootangent.net/category/music/tutorials/ <holstein> ^^ a friends stie <holstein> site* <holstein> [lsd] over in #opensroucemusicians <holstein> [lsd] over in #opensourcemusicians ** <markie-> ah cool <markie-> i shall take a gander at it <holstein> he makes all the music on that site in linux <markie-> so what synthesizer do you think is best in your opinion? <holstein> with soft synths <holstein> or his external module with a soft sequencer <holstein> markie-: they are all different <holstein> you just gotta start getting into them and see <markie-> how do they differ <holstein> yoshimi or zynaddsubfx <holstein> markie-: they differ in everyway <holstein> sounds they make <holstein> the way they look <holstein> the platform <holstein> you name it <markie-> and play all different kinds of instruments? <holstein> you mean sounds? <markie-> yea i guess you can say that <holstein> say what? <markie-> refer to it as sounds rather instruments <holstein> OH <holstein> yeah <markie-> what's the latency like? <holstein> its sounds <holstein> your not acutally playing different instruments ;) <markie-> true <holstein> the call them patches i beleive <holstein> markie-: latency depends on your sytems <holstein> system* <markie-> tell me more about that <holstein> i can get around 1.2 <holstein> for that application <holstein> i can get 2.4 or so stable though usually doing whatever i want <holstein> if i need to really push things, i can run rhonda96@example.net <markie-> and that's good <holstein> or 11 for that matter <holstein> if your not playing a soft synth <holstein> or doing live effects processing <holstein> it really doesnt matter <holstein> the latency* <markie-> tbh i just wonna play tetris on my midicontroller <holstein> hehe <markie-> I was running Reason 4 on win7 via virtual machince, and the latency is horrible <holstein> well, linux aint magic <holstein> you might need to buy an interface <markie-> what do you mean? <holstein> or check out your system <markie-> im unfamilar with all this music on linux <holstein> its the same as in windows really <holstein> just that linux tends to be more lean <holstein> and light weight <holstein> markie-: you'll find out when you start trouble shooting JACK <holstein> what your latency will be <markie-> alright cool <markie-> i'll see how it goes, thanks <holstein> what audio interface? <markie-> yea <holstein> yeah, which audio interface are you using? <holstein> the internal sound card? <holstein> http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx <holstein> if so, look at this ^^ <holstein> its dirty cheap <holstein> and has nice latency in linux im told <holstein> plug and play <holstein> the only issue is the unbalanced inputs and outputs <holstein> but you cant get balanced ins and outs for that price :) <markie-> ah right i see <terrence> Hi all. tvtime says no signal when I plug in my dstv point <terrence> any settings that I should change? <terrence> Hi -= Anybody to help - TV Card settings for DSTV #ubuntustudio 2010-09-06 <Blazento> Hello. Is it common for AMS to crash regularly when adding new effects? <holstein> Blazento: alsa modular synth? * holstein is not a regular user of that <Blazento> right <holstein> Blazento: ask over in #opensourcemusicians <holstein> Blazento: you using JACK? <Blazento> yes <holstein> you could just JACK into rakarrack <holstein> or JACK rack <holstein> or something like these http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/index.html <Blazento> cool let me check that out <holstein> i use rakarrack all the time <holstein> with synths <holstein> or whatever <holstein> its really lightweight <Blazento> cool. I was just learning how to program patches with AMS since I like its GUI, but the crashing is too bad <holstein> ive heard good things <kde185> hey my family is thinking of getting a new computer and putting studio on it for sound recording/mixing. Does anyone know if M-Audio Fast Track Ultra works with it? <holstein> hey kde185 <kde185> I'm trying to look up information, but only found information on older versions of ubuntu, if this piece of equipment can't work then it might be a deal breaker for them <kde185> yes? <holstein> this is where i would look <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-MAudio <holstein> you can ask over in #opensourcemusicians too <holstein> i remember someone having one of those <persia> G3 <holstein> and i dont remember <persia> Generally the folks who care for drivers tend to try extra hard to avoid regressions, so when something works with one release, it tends to keep working. <persia> This only doesn't work when folks don't file bugs if something stops working, but most folk do. <kde185> k thanks, hopefully this works cause my family won't be as patient as myself when trying to work with this <persia> That said, M-Audio has a great track-record of making "class-compliant" devices, so that they *don't* need special drivers, and automatically work for any OS. <holstein> kde185: the software is free to try :) <persia> I've never had any trouble with my M-Audio stuff, although I'll admit I don't have that particular device. <holstein> yeah, maudio is generally supported pretty well <holstein> and easy to get running <persia> Well, credit where it's due: rather M-Audio does a good job of supporting linux :) <holstein> w00t <kde185> well we tried it a while ago, but it was on an old computer that didn't have usb 2.0 ports, so I'm not sure where the weak link was in that setup <holstein> more companies should <persia> kde185, Lack of USB2.0 ports basically means no working USB audio, regardless of the device. There's just not enough bandwidth. <kde185> that's encouraging, I had hoped that the lack of information on the internet meant people weren't having problems <holstein> you can try a live CD <holstein> and see if it shows up <persia> For the longest time, "USB Audio" was considered a joke because of this, and the various differences between "High Speed", "Full Speed", etc. These days, it's mostly better (as long as you have limited channels/sampling frequency/etc.) <kde185> my experience with those has been kinda iffy, sometimes devices don't work quite right when the OS is running off a cd <kde185> but giving a shot won't hurt <persia> Kernel should be the same: you might have memory or I/O speed limitations, but stuff ought work. <holstein> troubleshooting audio devices from a live CD can be challenging <holstein> with permissions and what-not <holstein> pop in here when you get a test case going :) <kde185> k, I'll probably jump in once the livecd is running <Blank__> one of my old cards is actually capable of half duplex 24/96 on usb 1.1 <sletz> hi, which version of JACK is in Maverick? JACK1 or JACK2 ? <persia> sletz, *both* :) <sletz> what is the defualt one ? <sletz> if any.. <persia> I think it's jack2, although I may be mistaken. <sletz> yeah... #ubuntustudio 2010-09-07 <Blank__> :o an iphone user! shun! <ryanpg> hi all... can anyone explain to me (or point me to a url) what is going on with jackd in ubuntu 10.10? <ryanpg> attempting to install jackd2 results in many many apps being removed, conversely, certain apps seem to require jackd2 <ryanpg> this is very frustrating, and I'm concerned with the release of 10.10 a month away <ryanpg> anyone? <holstein> ryanpg: hello <holstein> phone... <holstein> bbib <holstein> biab <ryanpg> thanks holstein <holstein> alright <ryanpg> holstein, I'm also in -devel :) <holstein> ryanpg: are you running 10.10 beta <ryanpg> holstein, yes <holstein> ryanpg: AH <holstein> i see you got ScottL talking to you over in -devel :) <ryanpg> yeah, should we continue in -devel ? <holstein> sure <holstein> ryanpg: the OSMP channel i was referring to is #opensourcemusicians <ryanpg> holstein, oh cool - never heard of that one <musotek> hi guys <holstein> musotek: hello <musotek> Cannot get my M-Audio Delta 66 to work properly on Lucid. <musotek> Any suggestions? <musotek> INFO: <musotek> ******************** <musotek> :~$ lspci|grep audio <musotek> 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) <musotek> ******************** <musotek> :~$ lsmod |grep snd <musotek> snd_ice1712 55129 0 <musotek> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 2547 1 snd_ice1712 <musotek> snd_ak4xxx_adda 7364 2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx <musotek> snd_cs8427 6522 1 snd_ice1712 <musotek> snd_ac97_codec 100646 1 snd_ice1712 <holstein> might want to use pastebin <musotek> snd_pcm_oss 35308 0 <musotek> snd_mixer_oss 13746 1 snd_pcm_oss <holstein> or ubuntu paste <musotek> snd_pcm 70662 3 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss <musotek> snd_page_alloc 7076 1 snd_pcm <musotek> ac97_bus 1002 1 snd_ac97_codec <musotek> snd_i2c 4398 2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427 <musotek> snd_mpu401_uart 5617 1 snd_ice1712 <musotek> snd_seq_dummy 1338 0 <musotek> snd_seq_oss 26726 0 <musotek> snd_seq_midi 4557 0 <musotek> snd_rawmidi 19056 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi <musotek> snd_seq_midi_event 6003 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi <musotek> snd_seq 47263 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ <musotek> snd_timer 19098 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq <musotek> snd_seq_device 5700 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq <musotek> snd 54148 14 snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device <musotek> soundcore 6620 1 snd <musotek> ******************** <musotek> :~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf <musotek> # autoloader aliases <musotek> install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 <musotek> install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 <musotek> install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 <musotek> install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 <musotek> install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 <musotek> install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 <musotek> install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 <holstein> flooding the channel like this usually makes people sad :/ <musotek> install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 <musotek> of course <musotek> thanks <holstein> musotek: i'll just be a few ticks :) <musotek> sorry about that <musotek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/489936/ <holstein> musotek: no worries :) <musotek> :) <holstein> well we no that card works well <holstein> know* <holstein> at least that is what im told <musotek> that's what I heard too <holstein> musotek: you can paste this here <holstein> it wont be much <holstein> whats <holstein> the output of <holstein> uname -a <holstein> and <holstein> aplay -l <holstein> and <holstein> arecord -l <musotek> 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux <holstein> AH <musotek> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... <holstein> hmm <holstein> thats not good <musotek> arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found... <holstein> hmmm <musotek> nope <holstein> its a delta? <musotek> yeah <holstein> 6 6? <musotek> delta 66 <ryanpg> hi all... back <musotek> hi <ryanpg> man, for the life of me... I can't get rid of xruns with my edirol usb ua-25 <ryanpg> driving me nuts <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712 <holstein> looks like you might need to do some tweaking <ryanpg> do we still have to change the priority of the IRQ our audio interface is on? <holstein> i was thinking of the 1010lt <holstein> ryanpg: dont have to <holstein> you getting xruns? <ryanpg> oh man yeah <musotek> nice one .. I'll give that a read ... thanks <ryanpg> just sitting idle I get a burst of xruns every 20 seconds or so <holstein> musotek: theres probably something more relevant to ubuntu around somewhere <ryanpg> frames 64 periods 6 <holstein> musotek: try #opensourcemusicians too :) <holstein> ryanpg: what kernel? <holstein> uname -a <ryanpg> Linux Ryan-Laptop 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 5 12:28:39 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux <holstein> hmmm <holstein> yeah, lets look at you IRQ's <ryanpg> holstein, honestly I've never gotten low latency with USB on linux <ryanpg> irq 18 is the usb bus I'm plugged into <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts <ryanpg> nothing else on that irq <holstein> and paste that to.. <ryanpg> 80 root -90 0 0 0 0 S 4 0.0 0:42.83 irq/18-uhci_hcd <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ <holstein> OH <holstein> ok <holstein> hmmm <ryanpg> yeah, PR is -90 <ryanpg> jackd is also -90 <holstein> ryanpg: let me think a minute <holstein> but run <holstein> sudo qjackctl <holstein> and see if its the same <ryanpg> qjacktl is running now <ryanpg> but you mean run it as root? <holstein> yeah, sudo run it :) <musotek> holstein: thanks <holstein> musotek: let us know <holstein> i think thats do-able <musotek> ok <holstein> ryanpg: maybe just try turning it down even more <holstein> maybe 512 and 3 <holstein> or 1024 and 3 <ryanpg> oh man... I want to do live guitar effect processing <ryanpg> anything over 10ms is useless <holstein> ryanpg: that realtime checkbox is checked right? <ryanpg> sure is <holstein> in 'setup' <holstein> hmmm <holstein> if you set it up with the latency around 20ms or so <ryanpg> lol, just got another xrun <holstein> does it seem solid? <ryanpg> let's see <holstein> ryanpg: yeah, i dont think its permission <holstein> you can run it as normal user <ryanpg> k, bumped it up to about 20ms <holstein> that might just be all it can do <holstein> you might get better performance from your internal card <holstein> i hate to say <ryanpg> I hope not... others claim to get 4ms of latency from that <ryanpg> card <holstein> ryanpg: are you sure thats the IRQ ? <holstein> the right USB port? <ryanpg> absolutely <ryanpg> lsusb says bus 7 <ryanpg> /proc/interrupts say 7 is irq 18 <holstein> ryanpg: just for S&G <holstein> maybe try another port?? <ryanpg> holstein, have tried every one on the laptops <holstein> seems like you got it set up well <ryanpg> yeah... uless I can set that irq to realtime <ryanpg> can't chrt do that? * holstein is not sure <holstein> BUT <holstein> there was a guy in #opensourcemusicians talking about that <holstein> i think it was transmorgramofix <holstein> the #rakarrack guy <Adriannom> hi. i have a laptop with ubuntu studio karmic. since installing i've been unable to read usb drives unless i mount them manually. i've had the same model laptop (hp 550) running hardy, karmic and lucid with no usb problems. any ideas why i'm having this problem, or how i can start diagnosing? <holstein> hey Adriannom <Adriannom> hi :) <holstein> is this an ubuntustudio install? <holstein> or an upgrade? <Adriannom> install <holstein> and the others are standard installs? <holstein> ubuntu installs? <Adriannom> that's right <holstein> that might be a studio thing <holstein> im not sure <holstein> id have to go and check that out <holstein> and i dont have karmic studio installed <holstein> i would trouble shoot that just like an ubuntu issue though <holstein> i bet its a gconf setting <Adriannom> hm <holstein> or a package that needs to be installed <holstein> Adriannom: do CD's mount automaically? <Adriannom> yeah maybe overlooked package, but then more users would be having the same problem surely <Adriannom> i'll check <holstein> well <holstein> somethings are left out of studio <holstein> because of performance concerns <Adriannom> yeah, but everyone who uses audio uses usb drives, right? ;) <holstein> sure <holstein> you can mount them though <holstein> right? <Adriannom> yeah as root <holstein> OH <holstein> that might be a different thing altogether * holstein missed the root user thing before <holstein> Adriannom: i have a great idea :) <holstein> why not upgrade that box to lucid <holstein> and then check it out after that <holstein> mabye that will fix it <Adriannom> cd isn't mounting automatically <holstein> then your on LTS :) <Adriannom> yeah ok <holstein> now i think its a user thing * holstein did 2 studio install upgrades <holstein> and they went well <holstein> upgrades usually do pretty well these days <Adriannom> a user thing? what do you think i've done? <holstein> well, you might not have done it <Adriannom> :P <holstein> but some permissions could be set wrong <holstein> might need to re-add yourself to a gourp <holstein> group* <holstein> maybe disk group <holstein> not sure though <holstein> i would google that before just adding it <Adriannom> ok i think upgrade first then <Adriannom> thanks :) <holstein> Adriannom: let me know <holstein> it could be as simple as <holstein> sudo adduser Adriannom disk <holstein> and that would do it <holstein> but i think upgrading is a good idea <Adriannom> heheh, i just pasted that in and it fixed it <Adriannom> i think i'm better off not upgrading since this is a production machine <Adriannom> any changes could be bad <Adriannom> using it to dj live ya see <Adriannom> but it's great that this is fixed, thanks a lot holstein :) <holstein> Adriannom: i hear you <holstein> 'if it aint broke' :) <ryanpg> holstein, now I'm getting rhonda96@example.net ms <ryanpg> :( <holstein> what did you change? <ryanpg> nothing, power went out - restarted and let jackd run <ryanpg> just got two xruns <holstein> i get an xrun every now and then <ryanpg> jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p128 -n8 <holstein> when i start a program <holstein> ryanpg: whats with -n8 ? <ryanpg> number of frames <holstein> yeah, why 8? <ryanpg> bumping up and up and up to find a stable number <holstein> try bumping the other one <holstein> leaving that one at -n2 <holstein> or 3 <ryanpg> jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p512 -n2 <holstein> ryanpg: whats that do? <holstein> ryanpg: i assume your in #jack ?? <ryanpg> period = 512 frames (11.6 ms), buffer = 2 periods <ryanpg> running jackd from the command line <holstein> ryanpg: does that run stable? <ryanpg> so far <holstein> 11.6 is not bad <ryanpg> well.... 11.6 x 2 <holstein> maybe you can get -p256 -n2 <ryanpg> 11.6 ms latency for 512 frames, and two periods = 23.2 ms <ryanpg> maybe, I'll let this run a bit.... see if there's xruns <holstein> i think you can have too many periods <ryanpg> but 11.6 ms is really unacceptable for realtime signal processing <holstein> and make xruns <holstein> not sure though <ryanpg> well... <ryanpg> I'll go ahead and try <holstein> hell <holstein> try -p64 -n2 <ryanpg> it usually takes around 20-30 seconds for the xruns to start <ryanpg> I'll give 64 2 a try <ryanpg> lol, xruns galore <ryanpg> but... I think I figured something out <ryanpg> it's either my graphics card or my wireless card that's interfering I think <ryanpg> because I get tons of xruns when starting a web browser <holstein> yeah <holstein> i get one when i start a browser usually <holstein> when i have it set at like 1.2ms <ryanpg> wow, well I don't need networking when I'm playing - so I'll just experiment with turning it off <ryanpg> holstein, thanks for your help! <holstein> ryanpg: anytime :) <holstein> let us know how it goes <ryanpg> will-do <ryanpg> later <prep> Holstein, breaker breaker one-nine <prep> How can I update to 10.10? Not showing in Update Manager. <prep> found it, later #ubuntustudio 2010-09-08 <prep> Holstein <holstein> prep: HEY <holstein> missed you earlier <holstein> whats new? <prep> No worries, just downloaded Clementine, and iTunes like app, I extracted, how do I complete the install? <holstein> hmm <prep> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/clementine-music-player-rc-adds-ipod-support-wiiremote-control-more/ <dtcrshr> an anyone help me? i got sound when i check the pcm metter bridge, but no sound at all on the 1010 outputs <dtcrshr> al cables / fisic tests done <holstein> hey dtcrshr <holstein> dtcrshr: double check your routing in JACK <dtcrshr> http://yfrog.com/mgjackoutputp <holstein> prep: are you running 64bit ubuntu? <prep> No 32 bit, just updated to Meerkat 10.10 <holstein> good luck :) <holstein> prep: just make sure you download the proper package <holstein> the i386.deb <prep> i386 <prep> so now what? <holstein> http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/downloads/detail?name=clementine_0.5%7Erc1_i368.deb&can=2&q=Release%3DRC <holstein> yeah <holstein> and just click on it <holstein> theres a GUI that'll pop up <holstein> and walk you through the rest <holstein> assuming all the dependancies are satisfiable <holstein> your good to go <holstein> you can just click on .deb's like that * holstein looking dtcrshr <prep> it's not, two folders, DEBIAN , usr <holstein> ?? * persia idly notes that one ought take great care with random .debs one finds on the internet, as installing any .deb grants root temporarily to the person who created it. <holstein> let me look <holstein> persia: word <persia> I think gdebi has to be installed for the double-click thing to work. <holstein> AH <holstein> and thats not in ubuntustudio then persia ? <holstein> prep: you can still use dpkg from the command line if you want <persia> Not for maverick (only xubuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-*, and ubuntu-netbook) <holstein> prep: what are you wanting this for? <prep> iTunes replacement, it's based on Amrok <holstein> this is a very good point persia is making <prep> still tire kicking <persia> If one is running something else, the command to check is `apt-cache show gdebi | grep ^Task` <holstein> part of the awesomeness of linux is the way all the software comes from and is updated by the repositories <prep> yeah I'm picking up some books to understand better <holstein> 'trusted sources' are great because you know the system will be stable <persia> Um, no. That's the awesomeness of Debian and derivatives. linux doesn't require that in any way (and is probably the most-forked project out there) <persia> (Well, and other distros acquired the habit some time back) <holstein> well, i should say, part of what i think is awesome about debian deriviatives <persia> \o/ <holstein> i was helping a friend update skype in windows today <prep> is that a vagina? <holstein> we had to go the the skype site <persia> Supposed to be hands-up-in-the-air-celebrating <holstein> and download something <holstein> install it <prep> aha, sorry <holstein> quite strange process from what ive gotten comfortalbe with <prep> so this app wont run on my system? <holstein> prep: i would assume since its on OMGubuntu <holstein> somebody got it running on ubuntu <prep> but how to.... <holstein> prep: you could google.. how to install .deb file in ubuntu <persia> dpkg -i <holstein> there are lots of options <prep> there's a thought <holstein> well, not lots <holstein> several * holstein likes VLC <holstein> i always install that pretty quickly <prep> found a good replacement for Logic, EnergyEXT <holstein> nice <prep> picking up HP atom 550 dual core <holstein> that'll do it <holstein> you know what i really like about i tunes? <holstein> <holstein> ^^ <holstein> ;) <prep> what's that <prep> ? <holstein> but i dont have an ipod or anything that needs syncing <prep> error: pkg: error processing clementine_0.5~rc1_i368.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: clementine_0.5~rc1_i368.deb <holstein> hmm <holstein> are you sure you got the path right? <holstein> /home/you/wherever/whatever.deb <prep> added the PPA, yes, I'm a bad boy. Just tire kicking <holstein> prep: go for it <holstein> thats how you learn <prep> ah <prep> Like I said, picking up books to learn more on what, why and where <holstein> i got a great book <prep> Google? <holstein> http://books.google.com/books?id=wOGUuoHUyAEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=how+linux+works&source=bl&ots=OEowrCf0ZU&sig=16NvyrBPEqS0OJinOVbPv-mDGaI&hl=en&ei=n-uGTNmEI8Gblgfbkd2IDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false <holstein> hmmm <holstein> sorry about that giant link <prep> no worries, its a book <prep> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine-dev/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine-dev/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. <holstein> that doesnt look good <holstein> maybe its down <holstein> or moved <holstein> could just be down <prep> I followed the OMGUbuntu instructions <holstein> theres your problem ;) <holstein> nah, it really could just be down for a bit <prep> So the dpkg way, w?here/how to I point it to the .deb <holstein> you gotta make sure the path is right <holstein> sometimes <prep> it's in my downloads folder <holstein> i just drag the .deb over in the gnome terminal <holstein> it'll input the path <holstein> thats a good way to learn some command line foo <prep> I also just used gdebi to install, got this error : Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libimobiledevice0 (>= 0.9.7) <persia> Could be that the OMBUbuntu instructions assume folks are running lucid... <holstein> yeah, i bet thats the deal <prep> I posted on OMG, maybe they'll know. Ok, GF wants my attention, be on tomorrow. Thanks for the time/space and link. Easy killa <holstein> prep: laterx <codewizzrd> Sir Hakk Alot <codewizzrd> wht kind of name is that <codewizzrd> kidding <bartje> hi <holstein> bartje: hello <bartje> got some lilypond trouble here, and I don't get it anymore.... <holstein> bartje: im going to refer you too #opensourcemusicians * holstein is heading to bed <bartje> ah, ok :-) <holstein> and ive only dabbled with lilypond a bit <holstein> i know it looks great though * holstein usually just grabs a pen and paper :) <holstein> GN <bartje> good night <prep__> I cannot get Jack to run after Maverick update: 11:37:35.692 Patchbay deactivated. 11:37:35.796 Statistics reset. Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started 11:37:35.958 ALSA connection graph change. 11:37:37.046 ALSA connection change. 11:37:37.066 ALSA connection graph change. 11:37:40.710 Startup script... 11:37:40.710 artsshe <holstein> w0w <holstein> yeah, you got JACK2 in there i think * holstein is burning some live CD's today to make sure JACK2 works <holstein> with my hardware <holstein> prep__: you could try running <holstein> sudo qjackctl <holstein> see if the permissions got funky from the update <prep__> same <prep__> error <holstein> well, we can assume its not permissions then <holstein> prep__: didnt you need to install some packages to get your card working? <prep__> can't remember <holstein> that could be the case <holstein> something you need to reinstall <prep__> how do I check? <holstein> after the update <holstein> OR something that is just not built in to maverick <holstein> or the newer kernel <holstein> prep__: HEY <holstein> how about that <holstein> what kernel are you running now? <holstein> do you have that 'realtime' check box checked? <holstein> you could try un-checking it <holstein> maybe you had -rt and now have -generic <prep__> not checked <prep__> how do I check which Kernel? <holstein> uname -a <holstein> its a good way to learn <holstein> updating to the beta <prep__> 2.6.35-20-generic <holstein> but these are things you should think about in the future <holstein> you can download a daily image <holstein> and get the current maverick live <holstein> and see if you hardware is supported <prep__> what exactly is that? <holstein> before getting out there in the deep <prep__> so how do I fix this? <holstein> who knows <holstein> maverick is quite a way from being done <holstein> it might be fixed on its own <holstein> with a kernel update <prep__> well crap. <holstein> prep__: you should look and see if any of your old kernels are still there <holstein> that would rule that out <prep__> how do I look? <holstein> prep__: yeah, i ran lucid VERY early <holstein> from alpha on <holstein> there was lots of days of not booting <holstein> broken packages <holstein> whatever <holstein> but i went in knowing that <holstein> and i wanted to try and help report bugs <holstein> i feel like i might do it again in a few years <holstein> but not something id want to do every release <prep__> where can I see a list of kernels? <holstein> i would go where ever your comfortalbe <holstein> synaptic <holstein> or software center <holstein> and search linux <prep__> ok, what file am I searching for in the list? <holstein> kernels <holstein> linux-generic-whatever <holstein> or linux-rt-something <prep__> I see a 156.14.161.142.21 <holstein> yeah, thats probably the new one <holstein> you can look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg <holstein> that has a list of kernels <prep__> wich folder does that start in? <holstein> hmmm * holstein doesnt no how to answer that ;) <holstein> in terminal <holstein> gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg <holstein> and you can look at that file in read-only mode <prep__> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.35-20-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,msdos1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 031caeac-7dab-4cf7-a4f0-c0c0259b57d6 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-20-generic root=UUID=031caeac-7dab-4cf7-a4f0-c0c0259b57d6 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-20-generic } <holstein> yeah <holstein> thats probably one of them <holstein> if thats the only one <holstein> then you cant boot a different kernel to test <holstein> you can try installing linux-rt <holstein> or linux-lowlatency <holstein> and booting that <holstein> but i dont think thats the issue <holstein> so i probably wouldnt waste too much time on it <prep__> think anyone on the Ubuntu IRC may be up to date? <holstein> maybe #ubuntu+1 <prep__> Ok, I'll try them. Next time, with the new machine, I'll streamline the install. <holstein> prep: you get it sorted out? <prep> I deleted my launcher/applet panel by mistake, how do I get it back? <holstein> hmm <holstein> you got no panels now? <holstein> if you still have a panel <holstein> you can right click on it and add whatever back to it <holstein> if not... <prep> no panels <prep> I need to buy that Ubuntu book stat <holstein> do alt-F2 <holstein> and run... <prep_> alt 2 and run what? <prep_> I dropped net, didn't get that last bit <holstein> prep: actually <holstein> try https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+question/7759 <prep_> not working <holstein> did you try https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+question/7759 ?? <holstein> the first post? <prep_> yep, followed, error <holstein> hmm <holstein> well, what error? <holstein> after alt+F2 <holstein> go to gnome-terminal <holstein> then put in those commands <holstein> gnome-session-remove gnome-panel <holstein> so on <prep_> moved to the top, all messed up <prep_> commands aren't working <holstein> but you got a panel? <prep_> yes, the one on bottom is now on top, mated with the launchers/applets <prep_> all screwy <holstein> OK <holstein> so thats progress <holstein> you probably need to reapply the themeing <holstein> and now, you can right click and move things around <holstein> BUT i would just log out and back in <holstein> first <prep> still wacked out <prep> changed theme, same <holstein> prep: im not sure i understand what is 'wacked out' <holstein> but try adding another panel <prep> Nothing will change, or return back to it's place <holstein> you can also try deleting you .gnome2 dir * holstein wonders if your running gnome panel as root somehow <prep> I can do that, but the "open windows" like Firefox what not, are ll up top in the panel area, when they use to be in the bottom with the Trash, Workspaces etc <prep> where <prep> is the .gnome2 dir located? <prep> that first script will not run, says command not foun <holstein> prep: run them seperately <holstein> and see which one <prep> The second did <prep> thats how I got to here, but how to fix the way it was? <holstein> AH <holstein> gnome-session-remove <holstein> that one? <prep> yes <prep> had panel at end <prep> I can't find that file to delete <holstein> you'll have to sudo remove it <holstein> and it might not work <prep> So it's just broke permanently? <holstein> nah <holstein> i would try that <holstein> removing /home/you/.gnome2 <holstein> probably <prep> so sudo then gnome-session-remove-panel? <holstein> i hate to give advice because im not totally sure what the issue is <holstein> i could get you in more trouble <holstein> BUT in theory <holstein> gnome just stores its settings there <holstein> and if you delete it <holstein> gnome will just make a new one next boot <prep> where is removing/home/you/ .gnome2? Not sure I follow <holstein> OK <holstein> in the GUI <holstein> go to ... <holstein> places - home folder <holstein> assuming you still have those options from your panel <prep> there <holstein> when in there <holstein> you can go to view or something up there <holstein> and show hidden files <holstein> OT <holstein> OR** <holstein> ctrl-H <holstein> you should then see all these .whatever dir's <holstein> you'll see one <holstein> .firefox <holstein> or .mozilla <holstein> thats the settings for your firefox browser <holstein> SO <holstein> if you were to delete that dir <holstein> next time firefox starts <holstein> it looks there for settings <holstein> and if there are none <holstein> it will just make a new one <holstein> with defaults <prep> so delete gnome2? <holstein> *in theory* <holstein> prep: well, thats my suggestion <holstein> and im really not sure if that will do anything <holstein> but it seems plausible <prep> deleted, lemme reboot, see what goes, thanks <prep> Well, got red of the top system tray, but now I have no tray at all <holstein> try alt+F2 <holstein> gnome-panel <holstein> gnome-panel & <prep> nothing happened <holstein> OK <holstein> so try doing the thing you did before <holstein> alt+F2 <holstein> gnome-terminal <holstein> then.. <holstein> gnome-session-remove gnome-panel <holstein> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel <holstein> gnome-panel & <prep_> crap minimized window, couldn't get our convo back up, geesh <prep_> and you were saying <holstein> 14:58 < holstein> alt+F2 <holstein> 14:58 < holstein> gnome-terminal <holstein> 14:58 < holstein> gnome-session-remove gnome-panel <holstein> 14:59 < holstein> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel <holstein> 14:59 < holstein> gnome-panel & <holstein> like before <prep_> no such file or directory <holstein> when? <holstein> after? <prep_> the first command <holstein> it could have been changed <holstein> i would go to #ubuntu+1 <holstein> or #ubuntu-beginners <holstein> and say, 'i deleted my panel.. help' <holstein> or install LXDE :) <prep_> One last thing, I cannot get my drives to mount to desktop anymore. Suggestions? I think I will backup, download Maverick Live, reinstall without all the old crapp <holstein> prep_: maybe add yourself to the disk group ?? <holstein> sudo adduser prep_ disk <holstein> of course <holstein> there is a setting that doesnt show them mounted on the desktop <holstein> that could be borked too <holstein> are they not mounting at all? or just not on the desktop? <prep_> not to desktop <holstein> yeah, theres a gconf setting for that <holstein> i forget where right off the top of my head <holstein> that might get all sorted out when you get your panels back though <prep> downloaded Docky, cool <prep> Ok, so I have a dock, <prep> The hard drive stopped mounting to desktop before the update. So that was a prior issue <holstein> http://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/gconf-docs/C/nautilus.html <holstein> near the bottom <holstein> /schemas/apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible <holstein> i would check that setting <holstein> in gconf-editor <prep> ok, place to start <holstein> ive hidden them before <prep> Using Ubuntu Tweak right now as well <holstein> AH <holstein> yeah thats a nice tool <holstein> the PPA purge didnt work quite as i expected though <holstein> i still have a few packages hanging around from the PPA i purged <prep> My goal with the new HP, is Maverick on 10/10/10, EnergyEXT, very lean machine, I've learned whats crap on this machine <holstein> cool <holstein> im going to hang back at lucid on my production box <prep> Mines just play for now, real life eats creativity <holstein> :) <prep> Ubuntu has come a long way since I tried it back in 06/07 <holstein> hell, its come along way since 9.10 <prep> whats clean Kernels do in Tweak? <holstein> just removes the old kernels <holstein> when you take updates <holstein> and get 6 or 8 kernels hanging around that you dont need <holstein> i would keep more than one though <holstein> i got an update the other day that didnt work right for some reason <holstein> and had to reinstall the generic kernel on my mininote <prep> Hm <prep> I want to build a box, shit Tweak closed' <prep> nevermind, it didnt <holstein> alright, its food-O'clock <holstein> bbl <prep> My old OSX backup drive, the one mounted, will not me delete off of it, and it use to mount to desktop, then just stopped, aight <dtcrshr> hello, iv installed cinelerra, but i got characters on the menu all messed up <dtcrshr> i uset locales pt-br <holstein> hey dtcrshr <holstein> you got the locale set incorrectly? <dtcrshr> holstein, only in cinelerra <dtcrshr> all other apps displays special characters just fine <holstein> yeah... <holstein> let me look for a minute <holstein> dtcrshr: i would try over in #cinelerra <dtcrshr> holstein, ill do that, thanks anyway <holstein> yeah, im not finding anything super obvious #ubuntustudio 2010-09-09 <b-rock_> greetings: I was trying to build the ardour 3 midi build on my studio lucid amd64 box and it stops because jack is only 0.118.0 but 0.118.2 or greater is needed. <b-rock_> I tried building the jack from source but the build says that jack needs to be packaged differently on debian derived systems. <b-rock_> does someone here know how to build jack properly on ubuntu? <holstein> hey b-rock_ <holstein> if you need JACK2 <holstein> the easiest way is probably via falktx's PPA <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid <holstein> b-rock_: AFAIK its in maverick too <holstein> if you wanted to go ahead and move up to that * holstein hasnt tried building it <holstein> try #opensourcemusicians as well :) * holstein BBL <b-rock_> ok. I'll try that. thanks holstein. <holstein> b-rock_: how did it go? #ubuntustudio 2010-09-10 <mike9055> no sound in flash :( <holstein> flash? <holstein> you dont need flash to record ;) <holstein> mike9055: you running lucid? <holstein> 32bit? <holstein> did sound ever work in flash? <mike9055> holstein: ubuntustudio 10.04 32bit <mike9055> holstein: no, installed it today and sound has not worked <holstein> i have a via chip that gets mad sometimes <holstein> sometimes i can run a script <mike9055> holstein: sound works fine in other programs <holstein> sometimes i just gotta power the box off :/ <holstein> mike9055: interesting <holstein> mike9055: did you update? <holstein> that would be my first step if its a new install <mike9055> holstein: first thing i did was update <holstein> AND i would try and find other flash sources <holstein> ...did that too i bet <mike9055> holstein: i installed from adobes website the first time <holstein> mike9055: that could be it <mike9055> holstein: completely removed every trade of the flash.so file <mike9055> holstein: i installed from synmaptec <holstein> i usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras <mike9055> holstein: removed every trace again. installed a different one from synaptic <mike9055> holstein: i even uninstalled restricted-extras <holstein> well, im not sure whats been moved where <holstein> or whats still there from before <holstein> if anything <holstein> but something is not happy <holstein> and unfortunately, since ive been installing that metapackage <holstein> i havnet had much trouble <holstein> so my trouble-shooting skillz are down :/ <holstein> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html <holstein> ^^ whats that tell you? <mike9055> video capable: yes, audio capable: yes, localfile I/o enabled: yes <mike9055> holstein: do you think this could help me? http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2323&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=flash+player <holstein> what about http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/flashversion.html <mike9055> You have Flash player 10.1.82 installed. <holstein> mike9055: maybe <holstein> but you dont want to use JACK to watch flash <holstein> You have Flash player 10.1.82 installed. <holstein> ^^ thats what i get <holstein> mike9055: have you tried different browsers? <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1462028 <mike9055> i tried firefox and chrome <holstein> hmmm <holstein> mike9055: i would probably try #ubuntu-beginners <holstein> or some other resonably slow channel <holstein> with activity <holstein> maybe your local ubuntu channel <prep> Hi, needing some help on uninstalling UbuntuStudio <KittyBoots> Do any of you have knowledge of ArtistX? <vatts> PING guys, i've DLed a iso for VBox install (wanna test it out), and checked MD5s, and vbox says INVAILD HEADER. <vatts> ??! <vatts> o_O Hel <vatts> ll* <vatts> md5s are not same :\ <vatts> but dled it 3 times <vatts> d0h <vatts> can i order free CDs at least? :\ #ubuntustudio 2010-09-11 <djwattz> does ubuntu studio have vst support <sobersabre> hi. <sobersabre> I'm considering to setup dssi-vst <sobersabre> I see the curr. version of dssi-dev on lucid is 0.9.1 <sobersabre> and the source is 0.9.2 <sobersabre> is it ok to apt-get install 0.9.1 headers while having 0.9.2 sources compiled ? <prep> Holstein? <prep> Holstein? <sinman> question on ubuntu studio installation, toward the end of the installation I'm giving 4 things to pick from to install. how do i select what I want out of the 4 things? <sinman> I know they deal with audio and video editting <holstein> sinman: the list of meta packages? <holstein> audio whatever <holstein> video whatever? <holstein> well, i bet thats it <holstein> you select them with the spacebar <holstein> you dont have to do it then, though <holstein> you can select none of them <holstein> and install them later <holstein> and acutally, depending on the version, that might be the preferred method <sobersabre> guys, a Q: in the kernel changelog there are many patches labelled as "CVE" and some labelled as "LP" <sobersabre> LP == Launchpad ? <sobersabre> and what does CVE mean ? <sinman> holstein: yes <holstein> sobersabre: i would ask in #ubuntustudio-devel <holstein> or on the mailing list <holstein> sobersabre: if you dont get an answer here in a day or so <sinman> holstein: k, after i had updated ubuntu studio I went into the synaptic package manager since I knew none of them got installed. I'll remeber now that the spacebar to select during the installation <holstein> sinman: just search ubuntustudio <holstein> sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio <sinman> i'm uswing the current version of ubuntu studio <holstein> or in synaptic <holstein> sinman: there was a little glitch <holstein> where if you chose a certain meta package during the installer <holstein> the installation would fail :/ <sinman> I did and downloaded the the meta package with synaptic <holstein> but, if your installed, just search, install, and enjoy :) <sinman> thanxs <holstein> sure <sinman> I do have a question about editting digital pictures. do you know what software is equilavent to adobe light room, because thats the software i used in windows when i edit my pictures from my camera <holstein> sinman: in my opinion <holstein> the question 'what is equivalent too..' <holstein> not the best way to approach it <holstein> there are all kinds of tools though <holstein> the GIMP has always done what i need it to <holstein> but <holstein> if your looking for something with more photo managment as well <holstein> maybe f-spot? <sinman> k i'll give f-spot a try <holstein> picassa too <holstein> ive used that with my gmail account <sinman> I use gimp for photos in windows but I didn't have the fine tuning adjustment that i love in adobe lightroom <holstein> i think picassa runs in wine though :/ <holstein> but it worked well for me <holstein> sinman: you'll find something im sure <sinman> the last thing i could do is use wine and put adobe lightroom in, afgter i learn how to use wine <holstein> sinman: i heard about this too <holstein> http://www.rawtherapee.com/ <holstein> from this podcast http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ <holstein> looked great, and easy to get running, but i just dont need that <sinman> k i'll check those links out <holstein> i was also thinking about building one of these <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/gallery <holstein> for my parents <holstein> but i dont think you get manipulation <holstein> or at least the level your looking for <holstein> sinman: you should check http://www.winehq.org/ <holstein> before wasting a lot of time messing with some .exe <sinman> I'm planning on checking winehq out <holstein> not looking good :/ <holstein> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5839 <sinman> I need to learn how to use it to play certain games that I was playing on windows before i switch to ubuntu <holstein> http://partnersinlag.linuxgamers.net/?p=31 <holstein> http://partnersinlag.linuxgamers.net/ <holstein> ^^ <sinman> thanxs <sinman> my plans is use ubuntu for everything else and ubuntu studio for editting pictures, and want to get into video also and figure ubuntu studio would be great for that also <sinman> so i'm dual booting ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS and ubuntu studio 10.04 <sinman> spent the pass week learning how to partition for dual booting, so far it's great, just gotta learn to edit the grub so I know which OS I'm booting into. lol <holstein> thats cool <holstein> but really <holstein> ubuntu = ubuntu studio <holstein> you can add those meta packages to your current ubuntu install if you prefer <holstein> in your normal install <holstein> if you run sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics <holstein> that should get you all the grahpics manipulation stuff you want <holstein> that should get you all the grahpics manipulation stuff * thats available in the meta-package ** <vatts> Yes, overwriting files sucks =P <vatts> *pain* *headache* *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh* this install is taking years *sight* <vatts> *YAY* its done <holstein> sobersabre: i have an answer <holstein> 17:09 < JFo> holstein, CVE are security bulletins <holstein> 17:09 < JFo> that the sec team works #ubuntustudio 2010-09-12 <vatts> em guys... <vatts> i've installed US yesterday <vatts> and neither yesterday, neither today didnt boog <vatts> :\ <vatts> boot* <vatts> dont ask me whats wrong - it simply shows big _ in console-screen (well *on the screen*) <Blank__> bootloader perhaps <Blank__> try running the cd and in the boot menu, select "rescue a broken system" or something to the effect <vatts> well its fresh install *sight* will try it out <vatts> atm backuping my photos <vatts> wont take long <vatts> *gives disk after 5 mins of copying ~30s pause to clean cache* <vatts> *copy* <holstein> vatts: ?? <holstein> where are your photos? <holstein> is this a fresh install, dual booting with something else? #ubuntustudio 2010-09-13 <sinman> was wondering if i might can get some help in this channel since I'm not getting any in the #ubuntu channel <holstein> sinman: whatsup? <sinman> I have completely redone my computer several times now and the trash is still showing the same things in it in both ubuntu and ubuntu studio <holstein> 'trash' ?? <sinman> and both of these isn't sharing nothing except the swap <holstein> you mean the trash can? <sinman> yes <holstein> AH <holstein> exactly mirrored? <holstein> the trash cans? <sinman> it look like it <holstein> whats the issue? <sinman> yes they both have the same thing <holstein> can you restore from either one? <holstein> that would be kinda cool <holstein> whats you partitioning like? <holstein> did you add a shared volume to /etc/fstab or something? <holstein> maybe some partition is being read by both installations <sinman> about a week ago i was doing some clean up of things i downloaded, and I moved them to the trash. I forgotten about but had to redo everything including the install and ever since I keep getting the same files in the trash can <sinman> no
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