#ubuntu-za 2011-03-01 <Cantide> Does anyone know why my Android phone won't detect? :( <Cantide> running Ubuntu 10.10 now <Cantide> from what i've read online, it should just detect .-. <superfly> Cantide: what do you mean "won't detect"? <Cantide> hmm <Cantide> i plug it in via usb, and nothing happens <Cantide> i can't find it to mount it as a drive or anything <superfly> Cantide: what do you think is supposed to happen? <Cantide> but the phone says it's connected via usb <Cantide> okay, maybe i should rephrase my question - how can I access the phone via Ubuntu / <Cantide> ? <superfly> Cantide: my phone has 2 modes, "PC Suite" and "Storage Device", which I have to select when I plug it in <Cantide> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah <Cantide> you just solved my problem :D <Cantide> hahaha <Cantide> i plugged it in, selected the notification area on the phone <Cantide> then click on that <Cantide> and it asked if i wanted to mount it <Cantide> weird, i expected that to happen on my PC... <Cantide> thanks :p <Cantide> just another quick question - what directory structure should it have? <Cantide> if i want to put music on there, and there isn't a music folder, can i just create one, or does it need a specific structure? <Cantide> trial an error will help me .-. <superfly> Cantide: I don't have an android phone, so I'm afraid I can't help you there... I have a linux phone ;-) <Cantide> :) <Cantide> i'm even throwing some .mod / .xm files on <Cantide> see what happens :D <superfly> my word... that's old school <linuxboy> superfly: I thought nokia started using windows now <superfly> linuxboy: I got my phone my phone before they sold their soul <superfly> er, I'm double-typing now <Cantide> :D <Owkkuri> Cantide: I've got a Music dir on my sd card :P <Owkkuri> don't think it really matters, the music app / winamp scans the card for supported media <Owkkuri> yes you get winamp for android :P <Cantide> Owkkuri, thanks :) I just tested out the folder I created ( It just happened to be 'Music', too! ) and it works fine :) <Cantide> yeah <Owkkuri> I have Music and another caleld media <Cantide> i figured it would just scan - i'm used to using an ooooooooooooooold phone :< <Cantide> aha <Cantide> well, vanilla Android doesn't play .mod files... pity :p <Kilos> morning superfly and all you other peeps <superfly> hi Kilos <Kilos> how's the family superfly <superfly> Kilos: eish, the little rascal is rather sick at the moment <Kilos> shame man. flu? <superfly> gastro <Kilos> eish <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <kodez> morning all, where can i get pidgin's facebook plug-ins? <kodez> i'm using ubuntu 10.10 <superfly> kodez: I don't know, did you google? <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, ty <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure <Kilos> hi kodez in tools plugins <Kilos> oops no look in synaptic and typre in pidgin <Kilos> then scroll down you will find it there <Kilos> type <Kilos> its called pidgin-facebookchat <Kilos> pidgin is actually a wonderful IM goodie but can do too much. you need a big screen to see all iof the buddy list * Owkkuri introduces Kilos to scroll bars ;P <Kilos> heee hee hee <Kilos> thats lotsa work Owkkuri <zerlgi> Hi Kilos <Cantide> has anyone else had trouble updating via the update manager in 10.10 ? <Cantide> oh... seems i sorted it out by hitting 'check and then trying again <Cantide> there were some broken links or something :| <Kilos> hi nlsthzn howzit <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos :) <kodez> guys, earlier today i requested assistance in regard to pidgin's facebook plug-ins. i managed to some plug-ins but my system couldn't work and i had to reformat my system. i had tried to install it again after that but it keeps on giving me an error message that either my username or password is incorrect, please help,how will i ever solve this problem <nlsthzn> kodez: which plugin, facebook?> <Kilos> kodez how far does it get with installing before you get the error message or is it installed already and it just doesnt recognise your password <drubin> kodez: You don't need any plugins to get facebook chat working with pidgin <nlsthzn> drubin: not sure which plug-in yet... <kodez> i am using ubuntu 10.10 <Kilos> oh the prob with pidgin? <drubin> http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php <drubin> kodez: Doesn't matter it will work for all version :) <kodez> i do install 100% but i can't configure my facebook account <kodez> thanks @drubin, i will try it <drubin> kodez: did you follow the instructions on that site? <drubin> because you don't need any additional plugins anny more <Kilos> try going direcly to facebook with your browser <Kilos> i had them block me once to for some funny reason <nlsthzn> if it is the facebook plugin... just use your user name and password to log into the browser version first... if you use email and password in the browser than the plug in doesn't take your username and password... but better to configure without the plugin <nlsthzn> jabber: rodriguezcrystal@example.org password, enable ssl security ... profit <Kilos> hi drubin . you well? <nlsthzn> guys, time to get some sleep... we are doing an Installfest tomorrow in the big city... I will get lost so I have to start early... good night <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn <drubin> Kilos: Yes very well thanks <drubin> kinda only half around for the next 1hour though will be back at 10 <Kilos> just long time no hear so i was wondering <Kilos> glad to hear all well <kodez> @drubin, thanks again for your assistance. my facebook account is working now, what was more important was to use the settings as per the facebook link you provided. thanks again <drubin> kodez: pleasure <Kilos-> whew the fb pidgin plugin works but all them peeps chatting at once kills the pc <Kilos-> kodez1, you got pidgin working with fbook? <kodez1> @kilos. yes i did managed to get my account working. it was a challenge in regard to configuring my account <Kilos-> i got the plugin, added my mail add and fb password and it went right in but its too much for my pidgin and pc <Symmetria> bang, university of pretoria gets real bandwidth <kodez1> @kilos, not showing the offline contacts assist in managing your pidgin * Symmetria happily terminates more services from neotel #ubuntu-za 2011-03-02 <nuvo> mornings <superfly> hi nuvo <Kilos> morning superfly and all of ya thats online <Kilos> i have my own repo of karmic at /media/2G/mav-update. how do i tell this new maverick install to look there for the updates please? <Kilos> not karmic sorry. maverick <Kilos> i cant get cp /media/2G/mav-update to copy everything to /var/cache/apt/archives <Kilos> last try was from libnautilus and this one is from libparted. everything before that doesnt copy <Kilos> i cant do sudo apt-get upgrade online i dont have bandwidth to spare <Kilos> or is there a way i can point apt-get upgrade to the flash drive <Kilos> the command i use to cp is sudo cp -r /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives but it copies nothing before libp... <Kilos> is this a maverick thing? the same command worked kiff with karmic <inetpro> Kilos: post the output of the following on pastebin: ls -la /media/2G/mav-update /var/cache/apt/archives <Kilos> ty inetpro good morning <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21l6qwzMy <Kilos> root the boss of everything <inetpro> hmm... that didn't help much <inetpro> would be different with ls -la /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives/* <Kilos> ok sec <inetpro> hang on <inetpro> that list is way to long <inetpro> pointless <inetpro> ls -ld /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ <superfly> I wonder if the number of packages is just too much for cp ? <superfly> remember that * is expanded by bash <inetpro> superfly: right <superfly> maybe use xargs or something <inetpro> or rather stick to rsync <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20WwEwtKa <Kilos> oops <Kilos> thats only three lines must i paste it still? <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21uLECPLF <inetpro> Kilos: nee man <inetpro> :-) <Kilos> hehe die maverick maak my moeg <Kilos> en dis so lekker <inetpro> Kilos: ek dink nie jou probleem lÃª by maverick nie <inetpro> Kilos: as superfly mentioned, you have to many files in the folder <Kilos> those commands work perfect with karmic can do a clean install and upgrade with no downloading at all <Kilos> its 913m <inetpro> Kilos: find /media/2G/mav-update/ -type f | wc -l <Kilos> but the command to to flash worked fine <Kilos> says 1109 <Owkkuri> I know it's a bit of a hack, but what about doing the copy incrementally? <Owkkuri> say a* b* c* etc <inetpro> in fact the number of files are not even necessarily the only problem but even the combined length of file names <Kilos> can i rsync from the flash to /var/cache/apt/archives <inetpro> Kilos: rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ <Kilos> ok i try that ty <Kilos> no * after mav-update/ <Kilos> skipping directory . <Kilos> eish <Kilos> forgot sudo <inetpro> Kilos: you need to understand what * means <Kilos> i try again <Kilos> oh <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ <inetpro> Kilos: * is just a shortcut for typing cp SourceDir/file1 SourceDir/file2/ SourceDir/filen DestinationDir/ <Kilos> skipping directory . <Kilos> eish <Kilos> oh not all files and folders <Kilos> is there a all files and folders command on linux <inetpro> Kilos: yes all files in the specified folder but it's like typing out every single file on one line <Kilos> ok <inetpro> the shell does the expansion for you before it start copying <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ <Kilos> skipping directory . <Kilos> why? <inetpro> hmm... <Kilos> we forgot the -av <Kilos> i had to get my notes <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> i see if that helps <Kilos> there we go its doing something <inetpro> Kilos: you can leave -v unless you want to see everything while it's happening <Kilos> will take 15 mins or so * zerlgi waves <Kilos> better to see <Kilos> hi zerlgi <inetpro> Kilos: sometimes to much to see <inetpro> errors is what you need to see <Kilos> its fine it is now copying everything <Kilos> how do you just see errors and not everything <inetpro> Kilos: leave -v out of it <inetpro> just -a <inetpro> Kilos: read the man page... man rsync <Kilos> hehe. i did all of the upgrading on my 20g for maverick with gdebi one file at a time <Kilos> took a week <inetpro> Kilos: -a is actually -rlptgoD <Kilos> lotsa times had to go find the dependanies first then come back <Kilos> -rlptgoD ? <inetpro> Kilos: man rsync <Kilos> oh ty will get there once stuff installed <Kilos> still just the basic installation here <Kilos> ty very much guys <inetpro> Kilos: man pages are installed on the basic installation <Kilos> ah <inetpro> you can start another session and read while it's copying <Kilos> didnt think of rsync. cp worked too well on karmic <Kilos> will do ty <inetpro> Kilos: cp would also have worked without the * <Kilos> eish now you tell me <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> maybe i stick to rsync in the future <inetpro> Kilos: let me rephrase <inetpro> Kilos: cp could also have worked without the * and with a different approach <Kilos> ok * inetpro loves rsync <Kilos> eish <Kilos> yeah i gonna stay with it now <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on * Maaz washes some mugs <Kilos> just would be nice to understand why the command works with karmic but not maverick <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir <Kilos> Maaz, with cremora <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste <Kilos> Maaz, and milk <Maaz> Now you're talking <Kilos> Maaz, and sugar <Maaz> Do something yourself Kilos <inetpro> Kilos: you number of files may just have increased? <Kilos> i will stick with rsync in the future i think <Kilos> ty very much inetpro <Kilos> been a long hard expensive month <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! <inetpro> Maaz: thanks <Maaz> inetpro: Okay :-) <Kilos> Maaz, dankie baie <Maaz> Geniet jou koppie boeretroos Kilos <inetpro> Kilos: could also be that some environment variables have changed between karmic and maverick <Kilos> yeah 958m now <Kilos> but all there <Kilos> i am so happy <Kilos> gracias amigo <Kilos> now i can do a sudo apt-get upgrade offline <Kilos> inetpro, if i add --delete at the end will it then remove the old files it always want to update <Kilos> the update manager always wants to update with old linux headers etc <Kilos> like 130m of old stuff <inetpro> Kilos: --delete in your case will delete all files and folders that are in /media/2G/mav-update/ but not in /var/cache/apt/archives/ <inetpro> Kilos: not always a good idea <Kilos> oh <Kilos> goodness me that no good <inetpro> Kilos: especially if you have updated after the archive was copied <Kilos> i leave apt-get to sort it out then <inetpro> Kilos: yep <Kilos> apt-get autoremove <Kilos> dankie baie swaar <inetpro> Kilos: np <Kilos> see you all later. i go offline to upgrade <inetpro> Kilos: why go offline? <Kilos> i am scared it steals even 10m data <inetpro> hmm... it should ask <Kilos> gotta stretch 250m as far as possible <inetpro> ok <Kilos> i not gonna take the chance it doesn't ask <Kilos> later then . have a good day and thanks alot <inetpro> Kilos: bye * drubin hands charlvn some interwebs <afrodeity> Ooo decided to not have page sliders, oh bother <afrodeity> mission critical application <afrodeity> nearly kicked my monitor screen in because of combo of mouse gestures, and stupid popups interfering in an editing process <afrodeity> person who invented mouse gestures and predictive text should be shot <afrodeity> maaz: google evil programming <Maaz> afrodeity: "Most Evil Programming Language? - WebDeveloper.com" http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210832 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "C++ is EVIL, it's the computer language of SATAN ! ! !" http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t286485-c-is-evil-its-the-computer-language-of-satan.html 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Program optimization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "language agnostic - Evil programming practices - St <afrodeity> meanwhile my google doc is shredding a clean text about to go to print, and I getting 'trying to reach google.com" message, aaargh <afrodeity> kilos: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents <afrodeity> oops that should be directed at maaz <afrodeity> maaz: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents <Maaz> afrodeity: Sure, I'll tell marcog on freenode <queery> mazz coffee on <queery> maaz coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery! <queery> Maaz thanx <Maaz> queery: Sorry... <queery> Maaz thank you <Maaz> queery: No problem <queery> quick reminder: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/738/detail/ <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz flips the salt-timer <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, thank you <Maaz> Kilos: No problem <fwolff> For those interested in contributing to the upcoming GNOME 3: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/content/vertaalmaraton-vir-gnome-3 <fwolff> Summary in English: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/translatethon-gnome-3 * Symmetria starts throwing some high packet per second bandwidth tests around <Symmetria> 30 second output rate 4606321000 bits/sec, 416762 packets/sec <Symmetria> LOL <Owkkuri> Symmetria: is that 4.6gbps? #ubuntu-za 2011-03-03 <kbmonkey> hello <superfly> morning kbmonkey <kbmonkey> morning superfly! <kbmonkey> how are you today? well i hope! <superfly> yeah, alright thanks <superfly> hearing from one of our analysts about the stupid things that the business wants <kbmonkey> ah, analysts. hmmm. yes i must go work now, have a good one mate :) <inetpro> good morning <fwolff> hallo inetpro <inetpro> fwolff: heh, lanklaas vir jou gesien hier <Symmetria> heh Wits university is now the biggest bandwidth user on our network <Symmetria> and holy shit do they know how to use bandwidth <Symmetria> BTW a notice: at some point between now and monday, the mirror server will be down for potentially as long as 8 hours for the installation of the new system <Symmetria> our new fancy box is going in <Symmetria> and the entire mirror server cluster is being relocated to Wits <inetpro> Symmetria: thanks for the heads up, let us know how it goes <tumbleweed> Symmetria: poking you again about a security.debian.o box <froztbyte> when the new mirror's up I'll take a poke at it, tumbleweed <tumbleweed> froztbyte: we need donated hardware for that <froztbyte> oh, it needs to run on another server? <tumbleweed> froztbyte: it needs to be a box that the DSAs control (they need to stage security updates secretly) <tumbleweed> otoh, it doesn't need much bandwidth <Symmetria> tumbleweed, we are going to work on that once the new mirror server is up and running <Symmetria> which will also free up some hardware <Symmetria> alternatively, we can do this as a virtual machine in Cape Town on our large Vmware cluster <froztbyte> ah <nuvolari> hi, does anyone know of an ncurses-capable speadsheet editor? <linuxboy> nuvolari: google spreadspeet in w3m? <inetpro> linuxboy: wow, does it work? * inetpro answers his self <inetpro> No <inetpro> The page you requested is invalid <inetpro> after login <inetpro> and in elinks it says: Sorry, but this browser does not support web word-processing. <tumbleweed> Symmetria: aah, that sounds great <queery> does anyone know how to import vCards to gmail? <Kilos> evening all. hope you all ahd a good day <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, thanks <Maaz> Kilos: Sure <inetpro> good evening * nlsthzn waves * kodez waves at inetpro <Kilos> hi nlsthzn kodez inetpro <nlsthzn> Hi uncle Kilos :) <kodez> guys, when are we going to see more ubuntu activities in South Africa? <kodez> like ubuntu hour, developers week, something of that nature <superfly> kodez: that stuff happens fairly often already, and if it doesn't happen in your area, then do one yourself <superfly> that's how this whole thing works <kodez> @superfly. where does is happen? the problem is that i don't have the neccessary technical skills and i'm looking forward to participate in this gathering in order to learn. i'm still new in linux world <superfly> kodez: a lot of stuff is not about technical stuff <superfly> ubuntu hour is just a bunch of folk gathering together for an hour somewhere public (i.e. not at home) and chatting about ubuntu and free software <superfly> lots of non-technical people go to install fests and release parties <superfly> it happens where you are <superfly> there's no leadership organising things, you organise it yourself <kodez> i'm based in the capital city of south africa and it's quite here and only active during the freedom day <superfly> kodez: capital? cape town or pretoria? <nlsthzn> we had the first installfast (or something similar) in the UAE yesterday... I am still pooped :) <kodez> pretoria, cape town is for parliament <Symmetria> heh <Symmetria> we have a financial capital and an administrative capital, well sort of <Symmetria> but wow, right now Im seeing double cause of sleeping pills kicking in so I cant think straight <superfly> good night Symmetria, go to bed :-P <superfly> kodez: there was an ubuntu hour up there when maiatoday was up there a few months ago, I'm sure if you just announce one on the mailing list, you'll get some replies <superfly> there was even a Durban Ubuntu Hour <Symmetria> lol, its fun fighting the effects of this shit, 20 minutes you can barely walk, 30 minutes everything is fuzzy and you can barely see, 45 minutes you're seeing pink elephants lol <Symmetria> and then you pass out completely <Symmetria> and dont wake up for 12 - 14 hours :P <inetpro> Symmetria: gaan slaap <inetpro> kodez: feel free to tell us about your challenges <kodez> i had seen the announcement of the durban one but not the pretoria one <Symmetria> kodez if you're getting into linux, can I offer you one piece of advice? <kodez> my point is that we need to have these type of gathering for those of us who are interested in linux to gain our ground <Symmetria> learn it for what it is, enjoy it, use it, but do not, please, do not, join the religious debate :P <kodez> @symmetria, i would love more than one but it's ok to give me the first <Symmetria> let it be an interest, and use it for all its good points, and there are many many of them <superfly> kodez: absolutely, so what are you going to do about it? <Symmetria> but thats my whole problem with the lug's, and the reason I tend not to go near them, there is 2 much linux religious fantasism and zealotry that goes on :) <inetpro> 03/03 20:51:16 -*- Symmetria thinks its time to make his way to bed before he ends up with keyboard imprint on face when he passes out <Symmetria> (and thats not me saying linux is bad, Im simply saying, keep an open mind to the positives, the negatives, and all the aspects) <kodez> @Symmetria, i don't think religion is dangerous, as long as i know the "our father" prayer <Symmetria> kodez, heh, operating system and technology religion is bad mmmk :) trust me, I used to be one of the zealots :) <Symmetria> I've come to realize in past years that a balanced approach is more beneficial (particularly in the work market), windows, linux, bsd, solaris, each has its place for specific tasks, use what is best for the task you are attempting to perform * Symmetria waits for the zealots to start shouting at him to shut up :) <inetpro> Symmetria: ja ja <Symmetria> inetpro I advise everyone to explore, learn and educate themeselvs in every system they can <kodez> i'm currently a student in unisa doing a diploma in IT. i'm using gcc for c++, firefox for javascript and would love to learn more about networking, database (i don't know which to choose between mysql and postgresql) and, <Symmetria> and then pick the systems for the jobs they each perform best <Symmetria> kodez, heh, people in here can teach you a lot about linux, if you want networking, feel free to talk to me <Symmetria> just not while Im under the influence of extremely powerful sleeping pills :P <Symmetria> networking is the one area where I can probably help you more than most <Symmetria> (and dont ask me about programming or databases, I suck at that) <Symmetria> :) see, same thing, get your information from the experts in each arena, and use the tools that are best for each job * Symmetria rambles <kodez> @Symmetria, that's the main problem, getting the experts <Symmetria> heh kodez, lotta linux experts in here <Symmetria> and I'm pretty sure I classify as a networks expert :P <Symmetria> (if I dont, then Im not sure who would, considering what I do for a living) <Symmetria> though again, in the networking arena, you need to decide if you want lan based networking or SP based networking <kodez> @Symmetria: i have you in terms of network issues but to have structured discussions will make ubuntu-za interesting and allow us to learn <Symmetria> I can help you more in the latter section and in base networking theory <Symmetria> yes :) everything has its purpose <kodez> i left python 3 because i felt boring and hope to be back as soon as i get energy <Symmetria> lol, like I say, now isnt a good time to chat with me though, because Im struggling to read the screen, took my sleeping tablet almost 45 minutes ago and Im suprised Im still able to type never mind that Im still sitting up straight <Symmetria> (be warned, Im biased and I will do everything I can convince you that a career in networking is something you want, we need more motivated clued up networking people in this country, more badly than you can imagine, which is why networking salaries are so bizarrely insane) <Symmetria> anyway, Im off to bed :) gnight <Symmetria> (btw, if anyone suffers from insomnia, I highly recommend these things, I do not think that a strongly sleeping tablet exists) <Symmetria> lol, its base ingridients are benzodiazepine and cloraphorm :P <Symmetria> gnighttttttttttttttt <kodez> good night @Symmetria <kodez1> is there someone good in php? <kodez1> and mysql, postgresql? * superfly has done a bit of PostgreSQL <kodez1> @superfly, where can i start to learn about postgresql? and how does it differ from mysql? <superfly> kodez1: dude, drop the @ <superfly> kodez1: it's a real database <superfly> and you can start here: http://www.postgresql.org/ <superfly> kodez1: also, Python is a real programming language, don't bother with PHP, it's messed up <kodez1> can python be a server script like php? <kodez1> superfly, is there an irc for postgresql/ <superfly> kodez1: do you know the site www.careerjunction.co.za ? <superfly> and yes, there most probably is a PostgreSQL IRC channel <kodez1> i din't knew about it but had just opened it now, i will go through it. what's more important that i must look for? <superfly> kodez1: careerjunction is built in Python <kodez1> superfly, i had managed to preview the source code, i had not seen something about python, where can i look for that? or how is python used in this website? <superfly> kodez1: the site runs on python, not PHP <superfly> kodez1: look at the server signature <superfly> mod_wsgi <superfly> 2.3 IIRC <kodez1> where or how do i look for server signature? <superfly> in the response headers <superfly> kodez1: the reason I know it was coded in Python is because I developed half of it * superfly => bed <Kilos> night everyone. sleep well #ubuntu-za 2011-03-04 <nuvolari> morningz <superfly> I don't get kodez - I think he's hanging around in here because he thinks someone is going to jump out and teach him stuff <kbmonkey> hi superfly <kbmonkey> lol :0 <kbmonkey> like kmem russian roulette? :D <nuvolari> superfly: oh, you mean spoonfeed? <nuvolari> :P spoonfeeding and linux don't go together nicely <kbmonkey> well now I feel silly for wanting to ask something :p <nuvolari> kbmonkey: there's a difference between spoonfeeding and showing enthusiasm <nuvolari> Maaz: spell enthusiasm <Maaz> nuvolari: Looks good to me * kbmonkey nods yes <kbmonkey> its a cmus m4a not playing issue, think I'll hit their mailing list though :) <superfly> morning kbmonkey * kbmonkey waves <superfly> nuvolari: no, he seems to think that there's a set of leaders who organise stuff for Ubuntu, and that everyone is an expert and a sysadmin or developer <kbmonkey> oh we are, but our self organisational skills are... well, bad. mine are at least ^^ <kbmonkey> something about too many plates... * kbmonkey makes mental note to dl and try Unity * nlsthzn lurks <superfly> morning nlsthzn and fwolff <nlsthzn> hey Mr. superfly... sorry was afk <superfly> np <kodez> hi superfly, i managed to get a python document for web development. i will engage you on that matter when i had managed to go through the document <superfly> kodez: http://pylonsproject.org/ <kodez> thanks, ii will do pay a visit <nlsthzn> Gents, any of you know of a typical issue installing ubuntu from USB via WUBI? We where getting a constant error (unable to download iso meta data) or something like that? <fwolff> nuvolari, inetpro: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/content/vertaalmaraton-vir-gnome-3 <fwolff> nuvolari, inetpro: Wil julle dalk deelneem mÃ´re? (of op 'n ander dag :-) <queery> maaz, coffee <Maaz> queery: What? <queery> maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery! <Tonberry> o0 <Tonberry> moar coffeeeeeeee <queery> maaz, thank you <Maaz> queery: Sure <nuvolari> :? <nuvolari> dunno if it went through, <nuvolari> what's the correct proverb in english for: "een swaeltjie maak nie 'n somer nie" <Kilos> one swaalow doesn't make a summer <Kilos> swallow <Kilos> hi guys <nuvolari> Maaz: tell kilos dankie oom <Maaz> nuvolari: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode <nuvolari> yo nlsthzn <nlsthzn> nuvolari - Hey :0 <Fistaz> Hall!!! <nuvolari> home time! <nuvolari> cheerz <Fistaz> Heita Holaaaa!!! <Fistaz> Didnt know blackberry had this app wow!! <Fistaz> Hi kodez <kodez> hi Fistaz and all my ubuntu family <Fistaz> So how are u? <kodez> i'm better than yesterday, thanks for asking. i'm a little bit exhausted because i was busy with javascript <Fistaz> anyone available for a chat? <Fistaz> ???? <Fistaz> someone? anyone? <Symmetria> mirror.ac.za will be going down in a bit <Symmetria> probably the next hour or two <Symmetria> and will be down for a while <Symmetria> probably 6 to 8 hours at least <tumbleweed> good luck :) <Symmetria> heh well, patrick busy rackmounting the new server <Symmetria> after that it gets interesting <Symmetria> next step is to go to reef facility, pull the PCI-E 10G nic and 2 x PCI-E percs outta it <Symmetria> and put them + 3 SAN's in th ecar <Symmetria> take those to wits and rackmount them :P <Symmetria> this server is gigantic <Symmetria> :P <Symmetria> it has 1100 watt PSU's <Symmetria> haha <Tonberry> ja good luck <Symmetria> heh, 64gigs of ram and 12 3.4ghz cpu cores * Symmetria loves <Tonberry> o0 <Tonberry> damn <superfly> Symmetria: only 12 CPUs? <Symmetria> heh superfly 2 cpus, 6 core xeons, dont need more than that for mirroring <Symmetria> heh, they are the new fancy xeon 6 core shit, *shrug* <Symmetria> heh, combined with that much cpu power and that much ram and the 60 odd TB of disk space attached though, all should be good <Symmetria> :P <Symmetria> and it looks like we're expanding the disk space to 120TB as well <Tonberry> somehow i can not see how you could possibly need even that much for mirroring <Symmetria> Tonberry the disk space? <Symmetria> heh, oh, we can definately use that, infact, a lot more than that <Tonberry> no cpus <Symmetria> if I was carrying the full mirror data I need to actually carry, I'd need 3.2 petabytes <Tonberry> disk space i can easily see how 60tb is too little :p <Symmetria> Tonberry heh, you havent seen how much cpu a machine can chew when its got 15k+ connections hitting it at once <Tonberry> true <Tonberry> wait <Tonberry> how much damn bandwidth does that thing have access too? <Tonberry> to* <Symmetria> Tonberry errr national and international combined? <Symmetria> technically it would peak out on its network card before it actually ran outta bandwidth on any of the links <Symmetria> but its network card is a 10G fiber card <Tonberry> oh <Tonberry> ok <Symmetria> the router its connected to has *works it out* <Tonberry> suddenly 12 cores does not seem so excessive <Symmetria> 42 gigabit of bandwidth into it <Symmetria> wait, its more than that <Symmetria> 10 x backbone to capetown (where it meets 10gig to Neotel, 10gig to IS, 10gig to CINX), 10 x backbone to Pretoria where it meets 10gig to London, then 30gig to Rosebank where it meets 10gig to JINX, 11gig to I.S and 1 gig to Neotel <Symmetria> so 50gig into the backend of the router its connected to at 10gig :P <Tonberry> 0o <Symmetria> heh Tonberry put it this way, I was testing to London at 6gigabit/second <kodez> Hi Symmetria, is it possible to copy an image file in mirror.ac.za using ftp? <kodez> also, can i get the ubuntu DVD there? <frozty_sa> as far as I recall mirror.ac.za has FTP servers running <frozty_sa> but the server is down for maintenance right now <kodez> is ti possible to mount www.mirror.ac.za as an NFS? <Symmetria> mp <Symmetria> no <Symmetria> not a chance <Symmetria> heh, sorry, way 2 many security possibilities for me to allow that <kodez> what will be a better way of downloading application from packages.ubuntu.com? <kodez> preferable all <kodez> is there a way of building my own packages server? <Tonberry> a mirror of a repository? <Tonberry> apt-mirror maybe? <kodez> i guess something of that nature <kodez> where can i learn about developing my own repo server? <Tonberry> http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror <Tonberry> looks like what you want to do <kodez> kwl, i am opening it <Symmetria> ok <Symmetria> wish us luck <Symmetria> patrick on his way to shut down old system <Symmetria> :P <superfly> Symmetria: w00t :-) <kodez1> DraZoro, welcome to the world of ubuntu <DraZoro> kodez1: Thanks and Hello <36DAA8SZF> hi <superfly> fp #ubuntu-za 2011-03-05 <nuvolari> sp <nuvolari> :O when's the translathon? <kbmonkey> hello <nlsthzn> hello <linuxboy> hello <kbmonkey> you all well? <nlsthzn> Well, the bulls played like crap... but sure... all right :) <kbmonkey> ha ha <kbmonkey> win some, lose some, huh :) <nlsthzn> sure, but at please play alright <superfly> the bulls? I take it the cows won then? what were they playing? <nlsthzn> shoo fly, stop bothering me... <nlsthzn> :p ;) <nlsthzn> night all <kodez> which shop specialises on servers around gauteng? #ubuntu-za 2011-03-06 <nlsthzn> how can I recursivly delete files from directories with the same extension? As opppsed to going to each directory and deleting the files? <nlsthzn> find . -type f -name "*.u1conflict" -exec rm -f {} \; nvr mind, this worked :D <cocooncrash> nlsthzn: find . -name '*.ext' -delete <nlsthzn> cocooncrash: cool that is even shorter... thanks <Symmetria> hrm <Symmetria> so, I threw a ton of tests at the new mirror server last night <Symmetria> and it didnt fall over which is good <Symmetria> and I really really really pushed it <Symmetria> it was still idling even with it running full tilt network traffic <Tonberry> hehe <Symmetria> I pushed it to over a million packets a second <Symmetria> and even processing that it was still only at about 30% cpu utilization * Tonberry wants one <nlsthzn> sounds like a monster machine <Symmetria> heh nlsthzn whats your email addy :P will email you something <nlsthzn> same as IRC handle @ gmail <Symmetria> hold :) <Symmetria> :P go look at that <Symmetria> :p and that <Symmetria> and that :P <nlsthzn> 4 core with HT? <Symmetria> heh, 6 core with HT <nlsthzn> more oO <Symmetria> heh nlsthzn wait, will send u something else :) <Symmetria> LOL go look at that last one <Symmetria> that machine is a scary scary beast :) <nlsthzn> the ram 6 or 66GB ... to many digits :D <Symmetria> 64gig :P <nlsthzn> yikes... and so many Terabytes of data I can't even imagine :D nice <nlsthzn> "But can it play Crysis?" <Symmetria> lol Im sure if you stuck a video card in it... <Symmetria> heh it has 6 x 16x PCI-E slots in it <Symmetria> so lotsa room for video cards :P <Symmetria> http://pastebin.com/bkfxCM7F <=== there I paste binned it <nlsthzn> awesome machine to work with :) <Symmetria> heh <Symmetria> am gonna run some phoronix tests <Symmetria> to see just how much faster this thing is than the old machine <nlsthzn> super by to the power of infinity :p <nlsthzn> *super pi <drubin> Maaz: cocooncrash ++ [Find fu] <drubin> Maaz: find delete is find . -name '*.ext' -delete <Maaz> drubin: One learns a new thing every day <Symmetria> http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=profile&u=anon-14046-9273-11967 <Symmetria> heh <Symmetria> :P go install it and benchmark your machines against those test results <Symmetria> wow, old machine averaged 57 seconds to complete that test <Symmetria> new machine averages 24 <nlsthzn> :) <Symmetria> damn vodacom <Owkkuri> Symmetria: 31.1 sec here <queery> maaz coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <nlsthzn_> hey queery :) <queery> hi <queery> How you nlsthzn_ ? <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery! <nlsthzn> I'm fine thanks ,and you? <queery> maaz, thank you <Maaz> queery: Okay :-) <queery> ok <queery> just a bit busy in the lab <nlsthzn> sorry, 11.04 isn't very stable <Tonberry> well its not out yet <nlsthzn> Tonberry, wasn't making it out to be bad, just apologizing for popping in and out in the middle of conversations :) <Tonberry> ah #ubuntu-za 2011-03-07 <nuvolari_> mornings * nuvolari_ tips hat <superfly> morning nuvolari_ <superfly> you have a tail <nuvolari_> look! it's not just me that has a tail :P * nuvolari_ weechat * nuvolari quassel * Owkkuri checks self for tail <marcog> Maaz: latest tweet from marcog <Maaz> marcog: "#Ubuntu 11.10 named Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/3sOnC" 48 seconds ago, http://twitter.com/marcog/statuses/44740385884483584 <Maaz> marcog: By the way, afrodeity on freenode told me "tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents" 4 days, 22 hours, 34 minutes and 42 seconds ago <marcog> Maaz: ubuntu releases <Maaz> marcog: ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) <marcog> Maaz: ubuntu releases += , 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) <Maaz> marcog: Yessir <marcog> Maaz: ubuntu releases <Maaz> marcog: ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) , 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) <maiatoday> incase anyone asks: oneric:of or relating to or suggestive of dreams <marcog> Maaz: ubuntu releases ~= s/ , 11.04/, 11.04/ <Maaz> marcog: Righto <marcog> Maaz: ubuntu releases <Maaz> marcog: ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat), 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) <marcog> there fixed <maiatoday> also ocelot:nocturnal wildcat of Central America and South America having a dark-spotted buff-brown coa <maiatoday> s/coa/coat <marcog> these names are becoming more difficult to use as the primary name <marcog> "are you on oneiric yet?" <maiatoday> conducive to typos <marcog> how do you even pronounce that btw? <marcog> Maaz: define Oneiric <Maaz> marcog: oneiric adj 1: of or relating to or suggestive of dreams <tumbleweed> ossel (as in fossil) ot (as in hot) <maiatoday> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oneiric <marcog> tumbleweed: ocelot is easy, i'm referring to oneiric <marcog> ta maiatoday <maiatoday> and then too http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ocelot <tumbleweed> marcog: aah, that's easy enough if you start from the greek root <maiatoday> so for the say it like it is I guess it's dreamy wildcat <marcog> "Just remember: I before E, except after C, or the name of an Ubuntu release." <marcog> lol <nlsthzn> hey all <maiatoday> if you go into the default bada settings menu, what control is the Sound profiles or Connectivity items on the form? <maiatoday> They look like checkbox Controls but without the checkbox part <maiatoday> sorry wrong channel <Symmetria> sourceforge is cominggggggg :) <Chat7935> hey all <Chat7935> sup ladies <Symmetria> err <Symmetria> say what? <Chat7935> If u got R1.00 for every person u had sex with what would u be able to buy? Be honest and keep this going see how crazy it gets.DONT LIE EITHER <Symmetria> errr you're off topic <Symmetria> now go away <Chat7935> (d) <bmg505> please defines sex <bmg505> *define <bmg505> at my age it can be tricky <Symmetria> bmg, what chat wants to know really, is how much richer everyone else would be than him, since he'd be broke :P <queery> Maaz: define sex <Maaz> queery: Gender \Gen"der\ (j[e^]n"d[~e]r), n. [OF. genre, gendre (with excrescent d.), F.genre, fr. L. genus, generis, birth, descent, race, kind, gender, fr. the root of genere, gignere, to beget, in pass., to be born, akin to E. kin. See {Kin}, and cf. {Generate}, {Genre}, {Gentle}, {Genus}.] [1913 Webster] 1. Kind; sort. [Obs.] "One gender of herbs." --Shak. [1913 Webster] 2. Sex, male or female. [1913 Webster] Note: The use of the term <bmg505> lol my eyes, is it possible to be in overdraft? <Chat7935> sexual intercourse, actual penetrative sex I <bmg505> well shooting someone in the groin would match your definition <bmg505> let me get back to work, they lock the old age home's doors at 17h00 <queery> I could buy a entjie <queery> maaz, coffee on * Maaz washes some mugs <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery! <queery> maaz, thank you <Maaz> queery: Sure * Symmetria bounces around <Symmetria> everything ready for sourceforge <Symmetria> now we just wait for them to start push sync <Tonberry> o <Tonberry> mirror.ac.za is mirroring sourceforge? <Symmetria> yeah <Tonberry> niiiiiice <Symmetria> local sourceforge is on its way <Symmetria> the entire thing, all 12 terabytes of it <Tonberry> how long will it take? <Symmetria> coupla days I expect, 12 terabytes isnt exactly quick to transfer <superfly> w0rd! <Symmetria> can someone resolve za.archive.ubuntu.com please <Symmetria> and tell me where its pointing <nlsthzn> 800.716.0984 ? <nlsthzn> ubuntu-archive.mirror.ac.za <nlsthzn> Symmetria: ? <nlsthzn> :p <drubin> dead:beaf <drubin> c0ffee <drubin> OMG he has the best IP address ever <Tonberry> who? <Vhata> drubin: you should read up on IPv6 address structures <drubin> Vhata: How does that make his address less cool? <Vhata> it makes it less unique <drubin> Vhata: Ok yes it isn't unique but I haven't seen another one like it before <Vhata___> mmmmm <drubin> Vhata: I could use your nick but I don't <drubin> s/your/a similar/ <Vhata> drubin: but we could all have that IP address <Vhata> at the same time <drubin> Vhata: Oh I thought IPv6 addresses were supposed to be unique <drubin> guess it is time to read up on them <Vhata> um <Vhata> heh <Vhata> obviously all IP addresses are unique <Tonberry> damn ipv6 kiddies,get off our lawn <drubin> Vhata: Now I am more confused. <Tonberry> private ranges are not unique <Vhata> drubin: the last four pairs of octets ("beef:1337:c0ff:ee" in this case) are like... subnets of the main IP <Vhata> the first four (generally) define the actual machine - so he is "2001:470:95a5:dead" <drubin> ok <Vhata> basically, there is so much IPv6 address space that the idiots were like "oh yeah, we'll only use the first half to specify machines, the second half can be different addresses on each machine" <Vhata> I'm simplifying <drubin> Vhata: Obviously so that I understand :) it is ok <Vhata> but you just need to assign yourself the "dead" IP on your given subnet ("2001:470:95a5" for Charl), and you can make up the rest as you will <Vhata> no, I'm simplifying because it's about ten years since I did this stuff and I've forgotten most of it ;-) <drubin> either way I thought it was cool (and I still do) because I never saw it before <drubin> it is like seeing table mountain for the first time <drubin> or the sea <drubin> I am over seeing the sea now... but give some random JHB person that has never seen it before a balcony overlooking the ocean and they will be in heaven <Symmetria> hrm <Symmetria> actually, I have to say <Symmetria> the v6 numbering has become... a rather contentious issue <Symmetria> originally of the 8 16 bit blocks, the 4 were the "network" the last 4 were the "host" (so /64 per flat subnet) <Symmetria> with a /48 routed to every place where you could possibly have crap routed behind it <Symmetria> and a /32 being an organization allocation <Symmetria> so for example: 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab/32 = TENET, 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab/48 = Rhodes, 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab/64 = flat subnet inside rhodes <Symmetria> except, shit got messy around the time the RIR's started allocating /48 provider independant, and people starting to push for /56 routed segments <Symmetria> and then instead of using /64s, they moved to /127s for p2p links <Symmetria> and in some cases /126s <Symmetria> (originally IETF declared /127s broken, they withdrew that) <Symmetria> and the arguments continue about it to this day :) <Tonberry> lost you about half way <Symmetria> there is *NO* consensus on V6 addressing at the moment <Symmetria> tonberry, lol, don't worry, if you ask 10 network engineers about v6 addressing, they will give you 10 different answers <Symmetria> we allocate /48s per campus, /127s on p2ps and /64s on single flat networks where we have servers #ubuntu-za 2011-03-08 <nuvolari_> 'morning fellow geeks <nuvolari_> morning kbmonkey <nuvolari_> do you use dvorak? <nuvolari_> :P <kbmonkey> hello nuvolari :-) how are ou <nuvolari_> ou is good oo? <kbmonkey> nope I don't use dvorak <superfly> ohi kbmonkey and nuvolari_ <kbmonkey> this keyboard has such a shabby design, i keep pressing the wrong keys :p <nuvolari_> morning superfly <nuvolari_> kbmonkey: then why are you a kbmonkey? lol <kbmonkey> I bought a new one, but got home, my pc does not have a ps2 port anymore! oh noes! <kbmonkey> hi superfly! <nuvolari_> hmm, must be an old keyboard/old stock <superfly> kbmonkey: anymore, or is it so old that this is before ps2 ports for keyboards? :-P <kbmonkey> ha ha superfly, no its not that old, guess this mainboard just doesnt have one <kbmonkey> been learning so much Python the last few days. it's a nice language. <superfly> kbmonkey: nice? NICE?! Those flowers are "nice". Miss Thompson, the new school teacher is "nice" <nuvolari_> ok, it's ok * superfly wonders if anyone is old enough to catch the reference <nuvolari_> :P <nuvolari_> I heard it somewhere superfly, cant recall where though <kbmonkey> I remember that! ha ha. the source escapes me <superfly> it's an old Fiat advert <kbmonkey> okay its fuckin' fantastic! :D <nuvolari_> or just really fantastic *cough* <superfly> well, I wouldn't go so far as to swear about it, but it definitely is fantastic <nuvolari_> have anyone seen this? http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/03/07/191232/Crew-Builds-a-Flying-House-Modeled-After-UP <superfly> nuvolari_: yeah, saw that the other day.... interesting <kbmonkey> Is that swearing? oops, my bad. * kbmonkey tones it down <kbmonkey> just wish we used it at work, that would be lovely :) * superfly uses it at work <superfly> :-D * kbmonkey is going green <nuvolari_> ossum lol, a flying house! <kbmonkey> hi nuvolari, do you like the new /. design? <nuvolari_> kbmonkey: it's not *that* much different... well, from what I can see :P <nuvolari_> I don't use it much though because I'm subsrcibed to the dialy mail <nuvolari_> *daily <kbmonkey> I really hate how it breaks browser features. like searching text in a page, or nto auto-saving yoru login anymore :( <nuvolari_> what do you mean? searching inside emails works just fine :P <kbmonkey> ha ha :) I know, not on the site though, in rolled-up comments. <kbmonkey> do you get to work from home superfly? <superfly> nope <nuvolari_> a good thing IMO <superfly> agreed <nuvolari_> it sucks to work from home <linuxboy> superfly: you're nice <superfly> especially if you have a toddler, then you spend more time chasing them than doing work <superfly> linuxboy: thanks linuxboy, you're nice too ;-) <linuxboy> superfly: :) <linuxboy> oh, and btw, working from home is pretty rad <linuxboy> I'm doing it right now <linuxboy> (but I don't have a toddler) <kbmonkey> In that case, distractions would be infinite <superfly> if I had some sort of an office room at home, that would work for me, but without an office with a door I can close, too many distractions, and a toddler <kbmonkey> for sure, a home office is implied, without it I also prefer to travel out to work :) <kbmonkey> time to travel, have a good day you guys and girls :) <nlsthzn> top of the morning to you all <maiatoday> 'lo * <nlsthzn> Everything going well in ZA land? <superfly> hey nlsthzn and maiatoday <nlsthzn> superfly: alo :) <maiatoday> yep all good <nlsthzn> nice :) <nlsthzn> I made the UAE's first installfest the other day... at the end we had just over 30 wubi installs made successfully... was a long hard day :) <sakhi> moonin * nlsthzn waves <nuvolari_> moonin sakhi <Symmetria> morning <superfly> hey Symmetria * zerlgi bumps <bmg505> morning all <superfly> yo bmg505 and zerlgi <zerlgi> yo all <zerlgi> how is CutMan today? <superfly> pretty good thanks, work is quicker than expected, which is great * zerlgi is at Zimbra training * zerlgi .... is also hungry * zerlgi waves at charlvn <charlvn> hi zerlgi <nuvolari_> o.O <nuvolari_> blegh <nuvolari_> the worst feeling: thumbtumbling at work waiting for new tasks :O <confluency> Read an ebook! <charlvn> nuvolari_: do some snake handling, that's always fun <charlvn> need to spend more time with python myself <superfly> I need to spend more time with my corn snake... he's a bit neglected :-( <linuxboy> superfly: you have one? <superfly> linuxboy: I do <linuxboy> superfly: rad <superfly> linuxboy: his name is "Dynamite" too <linuxboy> superfly: photos or it isn't true <superfly> linuxboy: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/150533_10150324438960094_795295093_15755515_3245635_n.jpg <linuxboy> superfly: in your house? <superfly> linuxboy: yes <superfly> I don't have any on hand of me holding him <linuxboy> nice <linuxboy> when did you get him? <superfly> end of last year * Owkkuri got bit feeding a cornsnake once <Owkkuri> thing tried to nom my thumb <superfly> Owkkuri: played with the mouse a bit before you fed the snake? :-P <Owkkuri> hehe <Owkkuri> perhaps <Owkkuri> was years ago, all i can remember is it bled a lot <nuvolari_> I'z hating production deploys <nuvolari_> o.O snake handling? I'll step on it, then ask its name :P #ubuntu-za 2011-03-09 <nuvolari_> morning guyz/galz <nuvolari_> did anyone see this error before? "DHCP packet received on wlan0 which has no address" <nuvolari_> the wireless connection is established but no dynamic IP is received <superfly> does the wireless network use static ips maybe? <nuvolari_> superfly: meh, dunno, we're contacting the guys that installed the server. It was fine last night. <nuvolari_> I blame python <nuvolari_> :P <superfly> nuvolari_: that's just cause you're jealous <nuvolari_> jealous of what? <nuvolari_> the correct tool for the job <superfly> of how great Python is ;-) * Owkkuri pik vi nuvolari_ <nuvolari_> python has its place <Symmetria> ok nginx is starting to piss me off <Symmetria> well, this fancyindex module is starting to piss me off anyway <sakhi> mooning <nuvolari_> lo sakhi <deegee_> hi all <deegee_> i picked up a nick issue with this other dude in finland. is there a way
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