#kubuntu-council 2017-09-01 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRolnDbTwDo <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, kool <acheronuk> updated the beta 1 notes a bit <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta1/Kubuntu#Other_highlights.2Fnotes <acheronuk> please check <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Looks like Canonical have installed an SSL cert on kubuntu.org <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Need to fix the non-https stuff <clivejo> ahoneybun: is the kubuntu theme somewhere on LP bzr or git? <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website <valorie> acheronuk: thanks so much for those updates <valorie> that actually rates a kubuntu.org story, I think? <clivejo> rates? <clivejo> anyone know how we make changes to the kubuntu.org theme? <clivejo> the online editor seems to be disabled <valorie> hmmmm <valorie> I hate wordpress <valorie> so dunno <valorie> ahoneybun? <clivejo> I hate how locked down this one is <valorie> I think ovi knows as well <valorie> well, open it up! <valorie> it's ours <valorie> we can do as we like, surely? <clivejo> Ovi is on a romantic get away and not to be disturbed! <valorie> aha <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Locked down? <clivejo> yeah, can't edit the theme, can't even update the plugins <clivejo> or install new Wordpress versions <clivejo> why can't the theme be kept in LP git? <clivejo> its only a tiny tweak to use https instead of http <clivejo> so that browsers keep the green padlock <valorie> is that something we have to request via RT? <valorie> if so, ick <clivejo> oh, that bug report isn't the issue <valorie> and perhaps we should then ask them if we can keep the theme in LP git <clivejo> the main page has those two URL's and it is fine <clivejo> must be something else <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> The theme is on ovis githun <clivejo> ah, its the form call <clivejo> <form id="14.04.5download" class="form_download" action="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04.5/release/kubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso" method="get"> <clivejo> oh great cdimage.ubuntu.com hasn't got https <clivejo> that's useful <clivejo> ahoneybun: you reckon RT would install cert on there? <acheronuk> https breaks zsync <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> That might be why <clivejo> you don't have to use it <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Use zsync? <clivejo> no https <clivejo> lots of sites use both <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> You want https on cdimage? <acheronuk> the don't 'have' to have https either <acheronuk> but having it would create lots of broken zsync links, which people would get by default if they don't know better <acheronuk> clivejo: why is https wanted? <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/1714446 <clivejo> the download page uses a form to figure out the link the visitor needs <clivejo> chrome sees that as insecure and degrades the page to insecure <acheronuk> so what? * clivejo shrugs <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> People worry about no https * acheronuk forgets we have to cater for stupid people! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Not really stupid just paranoid <acheronuk> same thing in many cases <valorie> I wouldn't use a bank website without https <clivejo> all major distro's have secure websites, these days https://www.linuxmint.com https://neon.kde.org https://www.debian.org https://www.centos.org https://www.redhat.com even https://www.ubuntu.com <valorie> or anyone who wanted/needed personal info <clivejo> it's the way things are going <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> We do have https it's canonial from the looks of it <clivejo> and people do take note of it, hence the BR <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> https://www.simple.com <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Email gregory37@example.net I think about it <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Or is it canonical mm <acheronuk> mate just uses links to http cdimage in their download page with no issue <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, So does Lubuntu <clivejo> I just noticed that we seem to be the only one without a https link on https://distrowatch.com/ <acheronuk> making canonical switch and break stuff to fix an issue on our DL page we should be fixing seems OTT <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> It's not ours <clivejo> I like the way Mate do it <clivejo> using <a> links <clivejo> also have the beta 1 available <valorie> oh nice <clivejo> anyone have issues with me replacing the <form>'s with plain <a> links? <clivejo> won't look as pretty :( <valorie> whatever works best <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> You can style a tags... <clivejo> https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ <valorie> ok folks, I'm going to go afk for days <valorie> might have some telegram, possibly <clivejo> last entry for 14.04.5 LTS <valorie> ciao, and see you Monday <clivejo> valorie: can you check that out? <valorie> looks great! <valorie> in Chrome <clivejo> maybe someone else can make it pretty <clivejo> happy, to do all the version on the page the same? <clivejo> maybe when Ovi is back we can look into doing something like Mint does <clivejo> https://kubuntu.org/support/ looks like the IRC webclient is injecting insecure content too <clivejo> scorecardresearch.com <clivejo> sounds like tracking :/ <clivejo> ScorecardResearch conducts research by collecting Internet web browsing data and then uses that data to help show how people use the Internet, what they like about it, and what they donât. <clivejo> I would suggest that be changed to less invasive service such as https://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=%23kubuntu&prompt=1&uio=d4 <clivejo> its also on the https://kubuntu.org/kubuntu-podcast/ page #kubuntu-council 2017-09-03 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun Can you unblock me on Telegram please? :P <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Why? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I have to message you something <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, uh oh! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Mm. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> don't look at the pictures! <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.instagram.com/p/BYk1KppngeM/ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> looks fun! <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 596x206) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/AW0myK8H/file_3152.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> the translate button in twitter can be interesting sometimes #kubuntu-council 2017-09-04 <clivejo> ahoneybun: how do I get a list of people eligible to vote? <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/lp-election-helper <ahoneybun> my version has @kubuntu.org emails first <ahoneybun> clivejo: ^ <clivejo> yeah, running it <ahoneybun> alright cool <clivejo> thought there be more <clivejo> I got 41 emails from the script, but LP says there are 42? <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members#active <clivejo> oh <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Might be you? <clivejo> KC is an active member <clivejo> and admin <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea <clivejo> that makes more sense <clivejo> do you have example text to use in the poll? <clivejo> I'm kinda doing a dry run for later on <clivejo> wanna get the election started before shortly after the deadline <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Umm I don't <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Why? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: First day of school tomorrow :( <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> ðððâ¤ï¸ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> learning is fun! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> It's 9 months of which a lot of it is useless and repetitive <acheronuk> character building * acheronuk hides <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, GTFO :P <acheronuk> I dunno. Kids don't value their education nowadays....... <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Because the education system at least in the US is trash <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> It was originally meant for soldiers and factory workers <acheronuk> But you should be grateful. Many have it worse... * acheronuk wonders if he can make Simon implode with indignation <clivejo> T minus 1hour 59mins and counting .... <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 2 hrs 55 mins <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 22:00 UTC <clivejo> :) <clivejo> someone is paying attention :P <tsimonq2> What's relevant about 22 UTC? <tsimonq2> That's not a membership board meeting... :P <acheronuk> lol. someone is NOT paying any attention <tsimonq2> wtf is 22 UTC? <tsimonq2> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh <tsimonq2> KC <tsimonq2> lol <tsimonq2> right <tsimonq2> yeah <tsimonq2> :) <clivejo> ahoneybun: How many choices will win: ? <clivejo> 3 ? <ahoneybun> umm yea <ahoneybun> now that there is more then 3 people running I think <clivejo> Do not release results to all voters. ? <ahoneybun> don't and make a release on our site <clivejo> should I put the KC or -devel ML on there as well as me? <clivejo> or you guys just trust me to give you the results? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Vote for tsimonq2, "Make Kubuntu Great Again" XD <clivejo> ok, ballots should be sent to 41 members <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Voted <clivejo> 3 votes so far :) <acheronuk> done <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> good luck <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Wait how can you vote if your name is in it <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie it's Timmis <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Same to you <clivejo> ah crap! <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @clivejo, that was not a choice I saw :P <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Don't think I can edit it now its started <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, No it's Timmus :P <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> at least the Rik & Rick were the right way around :P <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> When does the voting end? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> read your emails :P <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> says right on the voting one <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> The poll has been announced to end Monday, 11th September 2017 @ 22:00 UTC. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2, Timmis <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @Sick_Rimmit <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, But I'm eating food :P #kubuntu-council 2017-09-05 <valorie> I don't see my mail -- who was the sender? * valorie is back from the cabin exhausted but now at least clean and fed! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @IrcsomeBot, :D <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, Clivey <valorie> o/ <ahoneybun> I got the email <valorie> I might have too; I just want to know the sender so I can search for it <valorie> or the subject line <valorie> just checked spam -- not there <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Forwarded it to you valorie <valorie> thank you, ahoneybun! <valorie> found mine, thanks! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Np <valorie> and voted <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> They've done A LOT of research on that <clivejo> looks a lot like Google's UI design <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Irma looks nasty! <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun You are in the path of that? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yep I am <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, Stay safe <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> As much as we can anyway <valorie> damn, Irma picked up steam during the night? boo <valorie> do you have all the supplies you need, ahoneybun? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Probably <valorie> I love a good windstorm, but a hurricane - NO <valorie> I would love a version of konvi I could use on my phone <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Mm mobile will not work good with IRC <valorie> so happy about the discussion about the future of KDE communication <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Matrix sure <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Ah no work Thurs and Fri <valorie> but that's the point -- being able to switch without pain <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, What's the discussion about? <valorie> Riddell wrote to the community list saying let's ditch IRC and all move to RocketChat <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> That was a CRAZY list <valorie> since then, much discussion about a better way forward <valorie> very productive <valorie> he was just trying to wake everyone up <valorie> not crazy <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> The scale of the thread <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Not the topic <valorie> I slept 'till 11, and feel almost caught up <valorie> well, KDE people are crazy <valorie> good crazy usually <valorie> although of course not always <valorie> lol * valorie is included in that <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> KDE folks are crazy <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I might be moving to GNOME <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> that HDMI audio issue was just soooo bad <valorie> what? <valorie> to be fair, all FOSS folks are crazy <valorie> if you did move to the GNOME community you would find the same <valorie> face it: people are crazy <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I could not find the audio for my hdmi <valorie> oh <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'm talking about the software <valorie> interesting, the last few things I said here never got here, I guess <valorie> or at least were not replayed when I "got back" from having to reset my flipping cable modem <tsimonq2> valorie: see convo in #k-d? <clivejo> valorie: do you know davmor2 ? <valorie> tsimonq2: which conversation? <acheronuk> clivejo: he's go 4 emails on LP <acheronuk> *got <valorie> I followed the channel before getting disconnected <tsimonq2> valorie: dropping kdesudo <valorie> what's his realname? <valorie> oh, not read that yet <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/~davmor2 <acheronuk> presumably <clivejo> yeah, found that and tried his gmail account <valorie> Dave Morley <valorie> sounds familiar but I'm not sure <clivejo> he's got Canonical email listed <valorie> yup <acheronuk> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dave-morley-33573ab <valorie> if he works on snaps then Riddell and Sitter probably know him <clivejo> his website is very informative http://davmor2.co.uk/ <acheronuk> more so that mine <acheronuk> *than * clivejo gregory37@example.net <clivejo> bit blank looking to be honest <acheronuk> short and to the point :P <clivejo> 15/41 voted so far <acheronuk> how many did last year? <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Can I buy it and fill it with pics of Red Bull? :P <tsimonq2> clivejo: Am I winning? :P <acheronuk> ahoneybun? <clivejo> of course Simon <clivejo> free stickers are vote winners <tsimonq2> LOL <clivejo> I don't know who is winning, doesn't say until I End the poll * acheronuk suggests clive does a plot of votes/day <clivejo> so you are all winners until the 11th <clivejo> acheronuk: you plot it <clivejo> was 11 last night, and is 15 tonight <acheronuk> clive: going to send reminders towards the end? <clivejo> dunno if I can <clivejo> don't want to spam people <acheronuk> true <clivejo> if they don't want to vote I can't make them! <clivejo> I should have turned on detailed tracking <clivejo> name and shame the non-voters <acheronuk> in the end, the people who care are those who will vote, which seems fine to me <tsimonq2> Pressure Riddell and Haruld :P <clivejo> they might have voted already <valorie> it will be fine <valorie> those who care will vote, and that's who we want to vote <acheronuk> echo... <clivejo> well 15 votes in 24hours is pretty good going * tsimonq2 was joking, I know Haruld wants some free stickers :P <clivejo> really? <acheronuk> probably wants his name spelt correctly as well <tsimonq2> acheronuk: salty :P <clivejo> thought Haruld was more free alcohol kinda guy <valorie> nope, I offered him free drinks and he was suspicious * tsimonq2 goes on a tangent, wondering if it would be worth it to apply for KD <tsimonq2> valorie: lol <valorie> "What will you ask of me if I accept?" <valorie> KD? <tsimonq2> valorie: devel <tsimonq2> valorie: (Kubuntu Developer) <clivejo> are you collecting LP badges or something? <tsimonq2> clivejo: no :P <clivejo> you have MOTU, why you want KD? <valorie> tsimonq2: Peruse? <tsimonq2> clivejo: Because there's Kubuntu packages in Main I want upload access to <clivejo> such as? <tsimonq2> clivejo: A week ago I could tell you that... I don't remember now :P <clivejo> I don't think we have much in main, do we? <tsimonq2> We have a couple of things in there <tsimonq2> clivejo: Plus most of Qt that's in main <tsimonq2> :P * clivejo raises eyebrow <clivejo> that's the real reason <acheronuk> tsimonq2: is there any team you don't want to be on? <acheronuk> oh. clive already mentioned badges <acheronuk> same Q <tsimonq2> acheronuk: My interest in team membership only lies within the teams I can actively contribute to <clivejo> do keep up Rik! <tsimonq2> i.e. you won't see me around Xubuntu <tsimonq2> acheronuk: For example I'm in the Ubuntu MATE Developers team because I've gotten $large_sum_of_money from flexiondotorg to do $a_couple_of_tasks (that will be public info soon) <tsimonq2> etc. etc. etc. <tsimonq2> But notice that I'm only in the teams I contribute to <tsimonq2> But I do contribute to a lot of things <clivejo> with Unity gone, won't Qt be demoted to universe? <tsimonq2> clivejo: Besides my LoCo (I remain in there because I want to be a member of the team but I don't have the time to organize things in person), I don't see anything on this list that I'm directly a member of that I haven't contributed to in the past month: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+participation <tsimonq2> clivejo: That's yet to be decided :P <tsimonq2> If you can name one team that I'm a member of that I haven't recently contributed to, let me know so I can leave it :P <tsimonq2> valorie: ack on Peruse fwiw, if you give me an ack with your Kubuntu Release Manager hat on that it's OK to upload, I'll happily do it <clivejo> Ubuntu Cyclists <clivejo> Harald Sitter's Groupies <clivejo> Daniel Holbach Huggers <tsimonq2> clivejo: That's one of those teams like "Daniel Holbach Huggers" that I'm in for symbolic reasons :P <tsimonq2> <3 dholbach <tsimonq2> <3 Haruld <clivejo> badge collecter more like! <tsimonq2> And I do <3 my bike <ahoneybun> Harald <tsimonq2> Haruld <tsimonq2> Whenever I say Haruld or Timmus, imagine me saying it with an Irish accent :P <ahoneybun> Harald and Timmis <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: And you think I correct people a lot! :P <tsimonq2> Haruld <tsimonq2> Timmus <tsimonq2> Aarun <ahoneybun> but your doing it on purpose <tsimonq2> *you're <ahoneybun> I just spell somethings wrong <clivejo> tsimonq2: stop making fun of my accent! <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm not making fun of it, I'm embracing my Irish roots :P <clivejo> what roots? <tsimonq2> I have ancestors that lived in Ireland <clivejo> where when? <tsimonq2> Like 5 generations ago <tsimonq2> Somewhere in Ireland <clivejo> LOL <clivejo> tsimonq2: would you take on preparing and uploading other KDE tools like the sddm-kcm package? <valorie> tsimonq2: if clivejo and acheronuk say that Peruse is in good shape, then please upload <valorie> I've not been able to test it for various reasons <tsimonq2> valorie: I can get it in good shape myself, copyright is just b0rked * clivejo doesn't think its in good shape <tsimonq2> Me neither <tsimonq2> I have to fix it :P <clivejo> don't like the idea of patching a copyright statement <acheronuk> released one is still kirigami v1 <acheronuk> and kirigami2 one is recent WIP <clivejo> if 5.37 goes in, then a git snapshot might be possible? <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: When you need things uploaded could you please dput it somewhere and just email me the link or Telegram it to me? <acheronuk> 5.37? <tsimonq2> clivejo: ...you mean 5.38? 5.37 has been in the archive for a while <clivejo> sorry 5.38 <valorie> hmmm, Eike's recent blogpost about Konvi sort of referred to peruse as ready-to-use software <valorie> I didn't know about issues <valorie> :( <clivejo> there are conflicting copyright statements <acheronuk> https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/log/ <tsimonq2> clivejo: Let me ping slangasek and ask him about patching copyrights <clivejo> leinir made the changes to fix it in git, but won't release a fixed tarball <acheronuk> doesn't seem very ready to go, unless he meant the 8 month old 1.2 kirigami1 based release <tsimonq2> Oh, well then I can do a Git snapshot <tsimonq2> np <tsimonq2> acheronuk: What's he waiting on? <clivejo> tsimonq2: the latest git requires a fix to frameworks <tsimonq2> clivejo: What fix? <tsimonq2> clivejo: Because if it's bugfix, I can upload the patch from upstream then fix up peruse and upload <tsimonq2> Otherwise it can go in the Frameworks SRU <tsimonq2> s/SRU/FFE bug report/ <clivejo> https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/commit/?id=aed2256a1e5c8a46122f9ec5a10c770239d02ec5 <valorie> or you could ask leinir directly, as the maintainer <valorie> fixing the copyrights upstream would be best, yes? <acheronuk> clivejo: we already have 5.37 in the archive <clivejo> he bumped the required KF5Kirigami2 to 5.37.0 <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kirigami2/5.37.0-0ubuntu1 <tsimonq2> valorie: That's already done, it's in upstream git master <valorie> cool <valorie> ok, gotta deal with the next round of laundry <tsimonq2> valorie: We're going to get Peruse in for you :P <valorie> no rest for the wicked <valorie> \o/ <valorie> I can finally read my doctor who comics! <tsimonq2> S L E E P I S F O R T H E W E A K - REDBULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL <tsimonq2> valorie: :D <clivejo> grrrr <valorie> rest is a unix command, silly! <clivejo> I can't keep up <valorie> as is sleep <valorie> sheesh <tsimonq2> valorie: I don't know enough about Doctor Who to be excited with you, but you should be able to do that under Kubuntu :P <clivejo> then what about a git snapshot of peruse? <tsimonq2> clivejo: I plan on that ;) <clivejo> just tried it, and it;s working fine <clivejo> loads the comic porn great <ahoneybun> valorie: I have a tablet for that <clivejo> oooo Get hot new books <ahoneybun> clivejo: reading hentai? <clivejo> dunno what it is <clivejo> I downloaded a test comic and was shocked! <clivejo> eakkk <clivejo> spoke too soon <clivejo> clicking on "Get new books" seems to have crashed it <clivejo> "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/peruse.knsrc" doesn't contain a KNewStuff3 section. <clivejo> file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/private/ActionButton.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'level' of null <tsimonq2> Once we get a working Peruse, I'll be happy to look at it more. <acheronuk> someone teach pino to wrap-and-sort! <clivejo> that is so annoying <tsimonq2> Is that in Debian git? <clivejo> yup <clivejo> he never seems to wrap-and-sort his work <tsimonq2> What package? <clivejo> I assume https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/ * clivejo shivers <clivejo> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/tree/debian/control <tsimonq2> Fixed. <valorie> tsimonq2: yes, I read the first few with ocular <tsimonq2> valorie: hm? <valorie> but I wanted peruse, as that was made for it! <tsimonq2> Oh <tsimonq2> Yah <tsimonq2> *Yeah <valorie> I bought a bundle of the comics on that site that pays the authors for their work <valorie> can't recall the name <valorie> they usually do games, but occasionally other stuff <ahoneybun> humble bundle? <valorie> yes <ahoneybun> I know they did a doctor who one <valorie> a few of them, actually <valorie> whatever they could license, I imagine <ahoneybun> clivejo: I have https https://ahoneybun.net/ <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: BC? <clivejo> you have mixed content too :P <ahoneybun> ahh tsimonq2 <ahoneybun> mixed content? <clivejo> insecure content on the page <ahoneybun> where? <clivejo> makes the browser demote the page <clivejo> https://blog.ahoneybun.net/ <ahoneybun> that's a different server if I remember right <clivejo> well its trying to access it over https <ahoneybun> nah it's on the same server <ahoneybun> mm <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: any help on getting it more mobile friendly <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Is it in Git somewhere or is it just WP or something? <ahoneybun> it's just html and css on the server right now <ahoneybun> the blog is WP <ahoneybun> ahoneybun.net is just html and css <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: My mobile-friendly stuff is all CSS3: https://gitlab.com/tsimonq2/tsimonq2.gitlab.io <ahoneybun> mm <valorie> oh damn, our cabin is under much more threat than I thought <tsimonq2> valorie: O_O ? <valorie> forest fire up there <tsimonq2> Eek! <ahoneybun> I'm looking up funny domains <valorie> there is ash falling out of the air here <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: rikmills.com :P <valorie> and we live 45 mins away <tsimonq2> Oh no! <valorie> we just finished the new deck yesterday <valorie> and sawed up the old one and stacked it in the woodshed for the winter <valorie> crossing my fingers for luck <tsimonq2> Not good :( <valorie> https://www.facebook.com/CrystalMountainWashington/photos/a.432458485232.199824.100997105232/10154843344565233/?type=3&theater&ifg=1 <valorie> that's the ski area about a half-hour drive up the hill <valorie> yesterday <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yikes! <clivejo> tsimonq2: regarding Qt why don't you apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-packages-uploaders ? <tsimonq2> clivejo: Good point :P <tsimonq2> Or I could just aim for Core Developer... <clivejo> indeed <clivejo> MOTW <tsimonq2> No, I'd be a Master of the Universe and the Core <tsimonq2> XD <clivejo> what are we gonna do tonight Brain? <tsimonq2> (MOTU is a subset of Core Developer) <acheronuk> narf <tsimonq2> clivejo: put Max in a sheep costume and have him jump over your bed <valorie> that first part seems easier to say than to do <ahoneybun> oh boy interview for system76 tomorrow #kubuntu-council 2017-09-06 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> good luck <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> thanks @acheronuk <valorie> oh ahoneybun, have fun in that interview! <valorie> gosh the light here is weird because of all the smoke <valorie> golden, but not in a good way <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Will do <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'm very excited if it happens <valorie> does it mean moving? <tsimonq2> Most likely <tsimonq2> iirc he applied a few months ago and they said "yes" if he would move to Colorado <valorie> Colorado is a great state <tsimonq2> My favorite plant is legal there ;) <valorie> with the exception of the area around the air force base <valorie> which is all military + fundamentalist churches <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> David Morely got his ballot email now <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Happy days <valorie> oh hell: https://twitter.com/AlexSteffen/status/905129440094519296 #kubuntu-council 2017-09-07 <ahoneybun> so end of next week I'll know if I'm moving <valorie> ahoneybun: how did the interview go? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> morning. hope it went well <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 981x639) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/vca3O92Y/file_3195.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Maybe you should move to Colorado this week!!!! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Right? Lol <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea I know lol <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Me XD <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (Photo, 346x346) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/31K3C00i/file_3202.jpg <valorie> fire has stopped advancing towards our cabin, and the weather has cooled and dampened, so I'm encouraged <tsimonq2> \o/ <valorie> I don't feel safe yet, but safer than yesterday for sure <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> :D <clivejo> walter!!! <clivejo> hey dude <clivejo> @wxl <tsimonq2> wxl: wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl <tsimonq2> @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 @wxl23 <tsimonq2> :) <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> lol. hi @wxl23 <valorie> nice to see you Walter <valorie> how do? <wxl> hey everyone <wxl> don't know why i wasn't on freenode. that was weird <tsimonq2> wxl: redwolf misses you <ahoneybun> I think it went well valorie and acheronuk <ahoneybun> I'll know by the end of next week <wxl> i got a meeting to go to, brb <tsimonq2> wxl: Bai, have fun <acheronuk> ahoneybun: cool. fingers crossed <ahoneybun> here's hoping acheronuk <wxl> ohhhhh k <wxl> how is everyone? <wxl> you guys got to tell me when i disappear for more than a day XD <wxl> especially you, tsimonq2 <wxl> voting done yet? <tsimonq2> wxl: I am SUPERB <tsimonq2> wxl: Ooooh and guess what <wxl> chicken butt <tsimonq2> wxl: I went and just carved out the packaging guide after I got MOTU <tsimonq2> (MOTU gives commit access) <tsimonq2> wxl: Look: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ <ahoneybun> YYYAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY <wxl> ooooh <tsimonq2> No more Bzr, maybe in misc places but the majority of it is gone :D <wxl> WOW COOL <wxl> is it all correct and complete or did you just sed your way to a fix? :/ <tsimonq2> Nah I just freaking rmed all the Bazaar pages and have been rewriting things as I go along <tsimonq2> mitya57 acked my changes <ahoneybun> oh shot <tsimonq2> wxl: But yeah, life post-MOTU has been amazing <ahoneybun> I got offered the job <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: CONGRATS! :D <ahoneybun> my heart is going to brake now <tsimonq2> wxl: Sponsoring all sorts of thing, I got the sponsorship queue from 50 something to 20 <tsimonq2> s/20/30/ <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: But yeah, sad to leave Florida, no? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'm a bit but it's a whole new start for me <tsimonq2> Alright, well congrats :D <wxl> wot job, ahoneybun ? <tsimonq2> wxl: System76 <wxl> WHOA <wxl> NO WAY <wxl> I WANNA COME <tsimonq2> XD <wxl> where's that at? <tsimonq2> wxl: Colorado <wxl> wow neat <tsimonq2> You know what's legal there ayyyyyy XD * wxl facepalms <tsimonq2> XD <wxl> yes once you start killing more brain cells, it will be easier for you to fit in with the alt-right :/ <tsimonq2> Oh you mean the alt-left? They're the one with the missing brain cells :P <wxl> yeah well, i urge you to compare the daily stormer with, say, any anarchist website <tsimonq2> *shrug* not worth my time <tsimonq2> I want to work on this packaging guide XD <wxl> well that's good at least <wxl> i might admit it's very communist/socialist of you to care so much about contributing to something that can benefit all people XD <tsimonq2> wxl: I also have Libertarian values (some, not all :P) - I should be able to do the fuck I want XD <wxl> unless people boycott you, yes <wxl> you know, free market and all <acheronuk> congratulations ahoneybun :) <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: I'd suggest getting out of there *before* the hurricane hits <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> XD yeah I know but the highways are full <wxl> ride your bike <tsimonq2> wxl: with... all of his belongings?!? <wxl> sell it all <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: You better not forget my LFNW thing in Florida :P <wxl> this thing has killed 9 people already and he's worried about his shit <tsimonq2> wxl: what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? <tsimonq2> :( <wxl> what part are you confused about? <tsimonq2> 9 people <tsimonq2> wow <wxl> probably more by now <valorie> some places have no communications, no water, no food <valorie> so yeah <wxl> 13 <wxl> yup <ahoneybun> so in 1 month I will work at System76 <wxl> http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-irma-continues-advance-florida-category-storm/story?id=49673384 <valorie> that's great news, ahoneybun <valorie> gives you a month to mop up from the storm and gtfo <ahoneybun> it's truly a dream job <valorie> and find a place to live in Denver <ahoneybun> yep XD <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: What will you actually do? <ahoneybun> Support <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: So I can call and mess with you? :P <acheronuk> "I can't find the windows menu????" <ahoneybun> nooooo <tsimonq2> I should call him claiming to be Microsoft Tech Support <tsimonq2> Put on an Indian accent XD <wxl> i always ask them "do people take you seriously?" <wxl> they usually say "excuse me, sir?" but hang up before finishing their sentence, realizing it's ultimately futile to keep acting <acheronuk> I always ask them how much money they make from fraud? <acheronuk> and keep asking until they hang up <wxl> that's a good idea <wxl> "hey are you guys hiring?" <wxl> "seriously, i used to be a voice actor! i could kill at this!" <wxl> "are you paid hourly or per piece?" <wxl> "is it safe to assume you don't offer health insurance or 401k?" <acheronuk> exactly. they usually get very confused and flustered <tsimonq2> Mark Shuttleworth was on BBC today! <acheronuk> oooh. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b093yyjg/bbc-business-live-07092017? <acheronuk> 18 mins in <valorie> phooey <valorie> BBC iPlayer only works in the UK. Sorry, itâs due to rights issues. <tsimonq2> Spinning up a UK VPN to watch it :P <acheronuk> it's not earth shattering :P <tsimonq2> idc :P <valorie> what did Mark have to say? <tsimonq2> hahahahahaha I got it working <clivejo> did you have to sign up? <tsimonq2> Yeah but I used a throwaway email from https://www.guerrillamail.com/ <wxl> shark lasers? <wxl> btw this is pretty cool https://onetimesecret.com/ <tsimonq2> Who just used Guerrilla Mail to send me this damn video? :P <wxl> what video? <tsimonq2> wxl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXNXIZuIBJKs #kubuntu-council 2017-09-08 <tsimonq2> wxl: IT WAS YOU <wxl> what? <tsimonq2> wxl: IP Addresses are in the headers of each email :P <tsimonq2> wxl: mx.bikefriday.com <wxl> aw crap <wxl> to hell with guerilla mail then :) <tsimonq2> XD <ahoneybun> thanks acheronuk <ahoneybun> lol <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Could someone with access to the @kubuntu Twitter account please retweet what I just tweeted? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (i.e. the Kubuntu one) <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> The CVE? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Yes. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Done <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Thanks. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> np <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> god I feel like tweeting about today <valorie> a bit early to do that, I suppose? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yeah it is <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Which is why I didn't <IrcsomeBot> <Sick_Rimmit> Good morning folks, I'm back ðð <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Hi @Sick_Rimmit â¦ Good to see you <IrcsomeBot> <Sick_Rimmit> Hi @acheronuk thanks man, how r u ? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Pretty good. Missing the podcasts and Ninja Dojo's :P <valorie> me too! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> So Irma is hitting me as a Cat 4 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 16 Mbit/s then <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I can haz internet? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> poor joke about a cat 4 cables..... <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Ahhhh <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> more suitable directed at @tsimonq2, probably . <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I didn't think about it <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I get the reference tho <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> as said, a poor porr attempt <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Lol <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, I saw one with a cat 6 cable :P <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun are you in the storm surge warning area? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> oh yea <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I live in Hollywood right now <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> ð± <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> not in the flooding area tho <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> so some good news <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yeah, small mercies I guess! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> something like that <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> ok. keep safe! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> will try <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> you betta. system76 discounts <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> huh? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> for us <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> today is clearly not my day for humour :/ <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> ð <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun Hook me up with some System76 computers XD * clivejo stomps in, slams the door and throws himself on the sofa <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @IrcsomeBot, You good? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> *takes a beer out of Rik's fridge and slides it your way* <clivejo> so few up <clivejo> fed <IrcsomeBot> * acheronuk pours a large Jack Daniels <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @clivejo, Has Max gone and done something? <clivejo> No <clivejo> MOT Test Inspectors <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> oh noooooes.... :( <clivejo> put a screw driver through the door sill of my car <clivejo> and failed me over it <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> much welding? <clivejo> looks like it <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> At least you guys have a mechanism for that kind of thing, you should see some of the shit rides people have here! <clivejo> we don't have a mechanism <clivejo> we have directives from Brussels <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> MOT Test <clivejo> with no way to appeal or agrue your case <clivejo> only people who benefit are new car sales, due to them making it too expensive to bring older cars up to their standard <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Oh :( <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Seems good in concept, shitty in practice <clivejo> the section needs cut out, welded in one continuous weld (very very hard to do) and they have to see that before you paint it and make cosmetic changes <clivejo> and to them it is a "major defect" <clivejo> I can't see how they can even argue that is a serious defect, it is totally cosmetic and has no structural function at all <clivejo> so I'm off the road unless I can find someone to do the work <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> :( <clivejo> its a very fine and skilled job <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> lots ofð° <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> money ^^ <clivejo> yup <clivejo> and I can't justify it <clivejo> between tax, insurance, fuel and these extra costs for less than 2000 miles a year, just not worth it <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> damn painful to lose it when you are used to having it though <clivejo> but I live in very rural area with no public transport <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Bike (Walter can probably get you some good parts if needed)? Idk, that is really shitty :/ <clivejo> I'm also pretty sure the local tire place done the damage in the first place by jacking it up in the wrong place :( <clivejo> broke the seal and water got inside <valorie> :( <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> ooooooooh ahoneybun getting roasted in #ubuntu-desktop * valorie can't be in *every* channel -- what's going on? <acheronuk> I've seen far worse gnome * valorie heads out into the smoke to water <valorie> husband is fixing trail up at Snoqualmie Pass <valorie> I hope he's out of the smoke up there <valorie> they've closed two entire sections of the Pacific Crest Trail - from White Pass all the way to Snoqualmie <valorie> like 100 miles <valorie> :( <acheronuk> wow <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2, Am I? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> ahh oh well <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I speak my view on it <wxl> no smoke here really <wxl> rain pushed it down <wxl> are you close to snowqualmie, val? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2 that can't look good right? <valorie> snoqualmie pass is about an hour from here, depending on traffic <valorie> no rain here yet, wxl, you lucky dog <valorie> oh my: http://ryanmaloney.us/cabincam/cabincam.html <valorie> cabincam up across the road from us <valorie> firefighters! <valorie> about 10 mins ago <wxl> are they doing a strip show? cuz if not, i'm not interested <wxl> XD <valorie> days ago, there were not enough firefighters <valorie> just the local volunteers <valorie> enough of us made a stink that they've send pros up there <valorie> and some national guard to do security <valorie> etc. <wxl> whoa <valorie> not getting the chimney sweep up there tomorrow though <valorie> it's still not clear that the cabins will survive once the weather warms again <valorie> hopefully so <wxl> we're officially moderate now <wxl> i think you're still in "unhealthy" or are you in that "very unhealthy" bit? <wxl> the EPA's map sucks <valorie> well, going out to water the plants, come in and cough <valorie> eyes have been sore for days, but i have a/c and a good air cleaner <valorie> so I'm better off than most <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I might be offline to some degree <valorie> I'll bet! <valorie> you could be without power for some time <valorie> that damn storm looks angry and huge <acheronuk> just been watching some of the local tv streams. yikes <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yeaaaa <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I don't want to live without power lok <acheronuk> evacuating 5.x million people <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea but that on the beach sides and keus <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Keys #kubuntu-council 2017-09-09 <valorie> no mandatory evac for Hollywood, ahoneybun? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Nope <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> looks like aaron will dodge the worst. just.... <acheronuk> don't think his hopes of keeping power look too hot though <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I know I'm losing it for some time <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie clivejo how's the election going? <IrcsomeBot> <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> 16 votes in as of last night <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> How many members total? <clivejo> 41 I think <ahoneybun> mm almost half <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> when I looked at the list, I figured about 50% may be semi-active enough to vote, so not surprised <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> yea I'm really curious who is winning <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> you I expect! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> why me? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> everyone knows who you are, and are incumbant <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'd REALLY like to have a developer on the board <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> known good quantity vs "who the hell are you" <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> you have made some blog posts @acheronuk <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> and people know simon as well <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, simon can apply <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> he did <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> for -dev <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> oh well he has MOTU <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yep <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I already have my hat in the running for KC and UCC * clivejo gives tsimonq2 a dirty look <IrcsomeBot> * acheronuk does as well <clivejo> LP down? <clivejo> ssh: connect to host git.launchpad.net port 22: No route to host <clivejo> fatal: Could not read from remote repository. <clivejo> or is it my sorry excuse for an internet connection <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> no, git seems screwed <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> there ios chatter on #canonical-sysadmin about some issues. maybe related perhaps <acheronuk> can't make a whole lot of sense of the chat, as no idea if the machines they mention host any LP stuff <acheronuk> clivejo: git is back <clivejo> is it? <clivejo> seems that slow might as well not be <acheronuk> lol. is was here anyway <acheronuk> www.ubuntu.com <acheronuk> 503 Service Unavailable <acheronuk> No server is available to handle this request. <acheronuk> yay <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 588x332) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/CeZ8s0oH/file_3213.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> christ. loonies on your beach! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> yep crazy folks <clivejo> bible bashers? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> idk <valorie> "Don't stay and put your life in danger." "Let's go to the beach!!!" <tsimonq2> I've heard that some people want to surf it <tsimonq2> Surf the 20ft waves... <valorie> I've seen someone surf in the past hurricanes <valorie> but geez, this one is a monstor <valorie> monster <valorie> damn, it is ravaging Cuba <valorie> but that probably helps Florida <valorie> well, Miami will still get a huge storm surge <valorie> :( <acheronuk> yeah, hopefully won't pick up too much of the power it lost <acheronuk> there is that though. the wind speed is far the least of it <valorie> well, the ocean between Cuba and FL is the warmest in the world <valorie> I like windy.com, you can see the different layers separately <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I still have internet for now <valorie> will you get the storm surge? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I don't think so but I'm getting rain now <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'm in Hollywood if you want to check the storm surge <valorie> yes, looking at hollywood <acheronuk> ahoneybun: that looks to be from the beach to a fair way inland though? <acheronuk> Hollywood <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea it's about 8-10 miles I think <valorie> 3.8 meters swell <acheronuk> if you were on the west coast, sounds like you would be in trouble <valorie> that seems significant <acheronuk> but on the east? unless you live in a beach hut? <acheronuk> dunno. my only ref is google maps. lol <acheronuk> if you think you are ok, then great :) <valorie> wow, I can see Jose off to the south as well <valorie> talk about a one-two punch <valorie> :( <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Jose is going north <valorie> yikes, I played the windy animation for the next week <valorie> Jose looks like it will go up to Virginia, New Jersey etc. and just sit <valorie> but who knows, it could just disappate <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yes. the models are good nowadays, but can still be a fair way off that far ahead <valorie> weather prediction is so far ahead of where it used to be <valorie> at least in the short-term <valorie> I get spoiled <valorie> slight bit of mist falling! <valorie> hope they get more of that in the fire area <valorie> and I see the hurricane is lingering in Cuba <valorie> poor Cuba! <tsimonq2> !info vlc <ahoneybun> wrong place <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Nope. <tsimonq2> Carry on, everyone. <ahoneybun> there is no bot here <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5FtT0mAy/file_3214.mp4 <ahoneybun> I do say <tsimonq2> Don't you get sarcasm? <ahoneybun> oh I do #kubuntu-council 2017-09-10 <valorie> cage's hair! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I lost power now <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, :( <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Generator is on now <valorie> wow, it's not even made landfall <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> cough https://www.local10.com/weather/hurricane-irma/florida-sheriff-offers-warning-do-not-shoot-at-hurricane <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> LOL <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: I thought that would be a bigger problem with Harvey! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0tHrn2kY/file_3216.jpg Been getting some looks for wearing this around <yofel> ahoneybun: hey, do you remember who you talked with at Linode about that server we have? <yofel> I just realized that our free year for that is up <acheronuk> ahoneybun has to boil his water. fun! <valorie> not so fun, no! <valorie> sounds like Hollywood dodged the bullet though <acheronuk> yeah. last week the storm track was predicted to roll right over the top of there. <valorie> I was a bit fearful for Orlando, but it seems they skinted by as well <valorie> another friend lives there <acheronuk> hum. my logs say linode was set up in Jluly 2016, so that year is well over! <acheronuk> *July <valorie> perhaps search the devel list? <valorie> I think ahoneybun set that up? <acheronuk> can't find any local emails. yes, he did <acheronuk> oooh. in July 2016 I was bugging clivejo with merge requests :P <acheronuk> time flies! <valorie> indeed! <valorie> I think we've come very far in the past year <valorie> perhaps not as far as we wanted, but still very far <valorie> I'm hoping our beta 2 will be awesomesauce <acheronuk> someone needs to decide on these wallpapers <valorie> oh gosh, still? <valorie> geez <valorie> I have multiple other things to do today, and will be gone most of the afternoon/evening at the cabin and a meeting about the fire <valorie> and I assume ahoneybun is not online <acheronuk> last seen 4 hrs ago. probably sensibly saving phone battery, if he has a signal that is <valorie> yeah <yofel> yeah, I noticed that a month ago actually and then completely forgot about it -_- <yofel> for the time being I'm paying for that so it stays alive, but that thing is kind of expensive... so either we get that sponsorship renewed - or something cheaper <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 3 of you expired at midnight! <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yofel: did not know you were doing that. yes, that needs sorting then. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> valorie: So I know who I'll be sharing a room with at LFNW :D <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> If you're on Telegram and are in a lot of the groups, you know Le Schyken El Chicken <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> He's down to come to LFNW #kubuntu-council 2017-09-11 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=875107 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/qt4/ <valorie> very nice, tsimonq2 <tsimonq2> :) <valorie> just got back from working at the cabin and going to the meeting about the fire, and then eating dinner after <tsimonq2> valorie: irt LFNW or KDE 4 removal? <valorie> I feel much better after doing that work <valorie> cool on both <tsimonq2> :D <valorie> I assume you checked the reverse-dependencies? <tsimonq2> valorie: For kdesudo or for all of them? <tsimonq2> Because with kdesudo, yep. <valorie> all of them <valorie> kdesudo is should be gone, asap <valorie> IMO <tsimonq2> Just removed from Debian today <valorie> I saw that <tsimonq2> I want Clive's and Rik's opinion to see if it should be removed along with the KDE 4 stuff next cycle or ASAP <valorie> I mean it should be removed from our packageset <valorie> archive removal, whatever <tsimonq2> valorie: Removed from packageset =/ archive removal :) <tsimonq2> We shouldn't shun it, we should remove it <tsimonq2> It's a liability <tsimonq2> But I'm assuming Debian did an rdep check before asking for removal... <tsimonq2> I'm just tracking packages Debian is removing to make sure it's on our radar to remove in Ubuntu as well. <tsimonq2> Next cycle or the one after we need to do a large KDE 4 removal. <valorie> yes <tsimonq2> I disagree with Santa when he says that it removes lots of functionality. <tsimonq2> There's a *lot* of stuff ported to Frameworks 5/Qt 5 <valorie> well, partially ported <tsimonq2> And removing the packages deprecated upstream in Apps 17.12 will be a HUGE help <tsimonq2> valorie: No, a lot is wholly ported <valorie> *some* stuff has been fully ported <tsimonq2> Fair. <valorie> some has been left behind <valorie> and will probably never be ported <tsimonq2> My *personal* goal is to get Qt 4 completely and fully out the door no later than the 18.10 release. <valorie> and the rest -- we should help with the porting if it is important <tsimonq2> A lot of that is going to be work in Debian, which I'm involved in. <tsimonq2> For example I'll be doing a QA upload soon to update to a new upstream version. <tsimonq2> etc. etc. etc. <valorie> nice <valorie> I appreciate that <tsimonq2> valorie: You know what I mean when I say QA upload <valorie> so do you plan to do a full Lub. release of lxqt? <tsimonq2> And yeah, it's going to need to be a large effort in Debian first :) <valorie> right <tsimonq2> Yep, 17.10 will be the first release with Lubuntu and Lubuntu Next <tsimonq2> valorie: (Q about QA upload is a question :P) <valorie> oh, not entirely <valorie> I know what QA *is* <tsimonq2> valorie: So you know how Debian has the concept of maintainers? <valorie> but not exactly what you are planning to upload <valorie> yes <tsimonq2> When a package is in the archive but has no maintainer, that's an orphaned package <valorie> per package, right <tsimonq2> The QA Team is the "maintainer" for orphaned packages <tsimonq2> Everyone can be on the QA Team <valorie> I've read the Policy Manual <tsimonq2> So yeah, I'll be working in Debian to do QA uploads, maybe even Non Maintainer Uploads if necessary, to get all of this ported over <tsimonq2> valorie: Honestly, you'd be surprised how much is being deprecated and how much isn't <tsimonq2> Good chunks of things are going out the window, lots, well, aren't. <valorie> ok, you are talking "porting" in Debian terms <tsimonq2> No <valorie> whereas I was talking in KDE terms <tsimonq2> I'm talking, porting to Qt 5 <tsimonq2> Like, I want to get all of the revdeps of Qt 4, which includes lots of KDE, removed or ported <valorie> ok, but it is often necessary to also port away from the kde4libsupport or whatever that is named <tsimonq2> Yeah <tsimonq2> I'm saying that too <valorie> that's what I mean by fully ported <valorie> that part is fully gone <tsimonq2> Yeahp. <valorie> some games and such will never make the jump unless they gain maintainers who do it <tsimonq2> valorie: kdesudo for example was still KDE 3 but using the compatibility layer that comes with KDE 4 to functio. <tsimonq2> s/functio/function/ <valorie> much of the easy stuff has been done <tsimonq2> valorie: Well, that's just what it'll be. If there's enough interest, someone will port it. <valorie> right, which is why we both want it gone <valorie> yep <valorie> I've talked people into becoming maintainers <valorie> it doesn't take much work, for some stuff <tsimonq2> I *might* port some stuff if I find the game entertaining but no promises there <valorie> just be careful not to overextend yourself <tsimonq2> That's why I say no promises :P <valorie> you're in school and that has to be priority ONE <tsimonq2> I've been keeping myself busy <valorie> cool <tsimonq2> Retaking Geometry this year, this new teacher is a bit more lax about homework, that's exactly what I need. <tsimonq2> Otherwise I'm managing my time better this year/ <valorie> good to hear <valorie> sounds like boring old "maturity" is sneaking up on ya <tsimonq2> Meh, I slept all day today so I might be pulling the all nighter :P <valorie> oh good lord dude <tsimonq2> One thing I got a lot better at over the summer is going longer without sleep and a functioning brain <valorie> make it a half-nighter at least! <valorie> no, you are killing brain cells <valorie> sleep is not for the weak, it is necessary to stay healthy <tsimonq2> *shrug* I don't do it too often so I think I'll be fine. <valorie> ok <valorie> well, enjoy it while ya can <valorie> I used to be able to do it and just can't function without sleep anymore <tsimonq2> This endless grind... I can't wait until I have more free time for what I love doing <valorie> getting old sucks sometimes <valorie> lol <tsimonq2> Meh, it is what it is, people change over time <valorie> there is always a grind <tsimonq2> Sometimes the grind is more enjoyable than other times <valorie> you have to focus on doing what you love and just make the rest so routine that you hardly notice it <tsimonq2> Yeah <valorie> I used to hate yardwork <valorie> now I love to just help the plants grow <tsimonq2> You? Hate yardwork?
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