#ubuntu-ie 2011-08-01 <DoeNietWil> Hello Ubuntu user, I came to this irc to ask you a question. We are trying to release a new version of OpenTeacher, and because it is a tool that is very language specific I was wondering if any of you would like to take a couple of minutes and translate it. It really isn't that much work but it would help us a lot. https://translations.launchpad.net/openteacher <DoeNietWil> if you have questions about the project or the translation please go to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openteacher <czajkowski> DoeNietWil: possibly better off using the mailing list to be honest for this kind of thing <DoeNietWil> i'm not the leader of the project, but i will tell them <czajkowski> otherwise it's kinda like spamming irc channels to be honest <DoeNietWil> well, it's not my intention to do that, sorry #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-02 <daxroc> Morning all <tdr112> morning all <ebel> hello all <ebel> how's tdr112 <tdr112> feel a bit sick <slashtom> you should be at home instead of infecting co-workers <tdr112> slashtom: its not that sort of sickness , it just a sore tummy , and i wont have coworkers today , no one around <slashtom> pop down the pharmacy, they have miracle cures for that sort of thing <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> motoillium is your best friend tdr112 <slashtom> aye, that's the stuff <slashtom> hey cztab, how's the form? <czajkowski> ntb <czajkowski> phone interview in 15 mins <czajkowski> not sure what role I applied for either :s <slashtom> good luck <ebel> g'luck <Wonderwoman319> Hi All - Sorry to bother you but I have a quick question. I need to upgrade by current ubuntu software and I am totally lost. Sorry about this, but should I just back up by data and then download the new software? <czajkowski> Wonderwoman319: what version are you on <czajkowski> Wonderwoman319: it's not going to delete your data, just upgrade the OS part <czajkowski> ebel: ping <Wonderwoman319> If I upgrade the software there appears to be an error message and to be honest I dont have a clue how to sort it out. <ebel> czajkowski: pong <czajkowski> whats the error message <ebel> ello Wonderwoman319 <czajkowski> ebel: are we good to go re website ? <ebel> czajkowski: ah, haven't done anything with that yet, sorry <Wonderwoman319> Its version...gosh...its ages since I upgraded. <Wonderwoman319> Maybe 10.04? <Wonderwoman319> I have my emily84@example.com. <ebel> Wonderwoman319: do you know the error message? if you're unsure you can take a screen shot of the screen and put a link in here <Wonderwoman319> that would be great. <Wonderwoman319> The only thing is that I will have to go home and switch on my laptop. if I log on later will someone be around to assist me. <Wonderwoman319> sorry I'm useless when it comes to these things. <ebel> there's frequently some people here. <Wonderwoman319> great stuff. thanks <ebel> if not, do you know about the ubunut-ie mailing list> <ebel> ? <ebel> you can post a link there. might help if there's no-one around here <ebel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ie <Wonderwoman319> Ok will try that. <Wonderwoman319> But when they write all these formulas in the frequently asked questions its a bit of a mystery to me <Wonderwoman319> but I will give it a try. <Wonderwoman319> thanks a mull for your assistance. <ebel> âº #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-03 <czajkowski> ebel: thanks <tdr112> hey cztab <czajkowski> tdr112: howdy <czajkowski> tdr112: hows work going ? <airurando> evening all <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> hows you airurando <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> not bad, had a crazy July but getting back to normal now. <airurando> how are you keeping yourself? <czajkowski> ntb <czajkowski> just booked to come back from 23/8 - 1/9 <airurando> nice <airurando> pity you will miss the UGJ here on the 4th <airurando> all going well that is. * airurando is trying to get around MootBot letting us down during the July meeting :( <airurando> czajkowski will you be around Dublin during this trip home? <czajkowski> not sure... <czajkowski> airurando: whats wrong with mootbot? <airurando> as far as I can make out it didn't record the minutes or logs of our last meeting <czajkowski> how odd <airurando> I chaired <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> I'd ask alanbell <czajkowski> he tends to know these things <airurando> started the meeting and ended it correctly I think. <airurando> I'll ping him <airurando> thanks <czajkowski> np <AlanBell> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 16:12. The chair is AlanBell. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <AlanBell> #endmeeting <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:13. <AlanBell> that isn't one of my bots <airurando> right <airurando> any idea who owns it? <AlanBell> it is the 'official' mootbot from #ubuntu-meeting <AlanBell> but it isn't identified which is odd <AlanBell> ask in #ubuntu-bots <AlanBell> because that will be an issue for others I expect <AlanBell> meetingology is supposed to be growing the ability to re-process logs into minutes <AlanBell> so you point it at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/20/%23ubuntu-ie.txt and it will read it and make minutes in moin wiki syntax <airurando> AlanBell you are speaking way above my head on this but thanks <czajkowski> airurando: ahh my bad <czajkowski> airurando: meet AlanBell he has a newwer bot which does funky stuff to help do the wiki bit afterwards <airurando> I'll raise it in #ubuntu-bots <czajkowski> I forgot ours isnt that bot <airurando> czajkowski I've met AlanBell on IRC before <AlanBell> it has reminded me to finish my bot <airurando> for now though I'll pull the minutes and logs manually <airurando> is there a backup we can use for future meetings? <AlanBell> I can send in one of mine, but you would have to kick out the other (they don't get along) <AlanBell> however best to get that one fixed in the short term as that will be screwing up everyone who has meetings in #ubuntu-meeting <airurando> curious as http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ doesn't appear to have recorded logs since the end of June <airurando> for anyone if my initial scan is correct <airurando> into #ubuntu-bots I go <airurando> AlanBell I'll chat to the guys about kicking MootBot and get back to you <airurando> Thanks for the offer. <AlanBell> looks like this may be the time to finish the thing and make it official <airurando> We need to get this sorted for our next meeting later in August <airurando> go for it AlanBell <airurando> :) <AlanBell> the plan is to put the plugin that I have written into the loco bots <AlanBell> so lubotu3 etc will just grow the ability to conduct a meeting <airurando> sounds cool #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-04 <tdr112> morning all <airurando> morning tdr112 <airurando> morning all also <airurando> Ahh. <airurando> After reviewing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot I jumped into #ubuntu-scribes on freenode. <airurando> The topic in that channel explains all relating to the missing July meeting logs and minutes <airurando> "Topic for #ubuntu-scribes is Sorry, Mootbot is currently buggy and/or broken and I have no time to fix it at the moment. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause -- Seeker" <airurando> morning ebel <ebel> hello hello <ebel> airurando: you're back from kerry? <airurando> yes indeed <airurando> getting back to normal slowly <airurando> still hectic with a very long todo list but glad to be back. <airurando> ebel tdr112 MootBot is currently broken with no time for a fix to be found by the owner. <ebel> oh <ebel> who's the owner? when did this happen? <airurando> ebel: "Topic for #ubuntu-scribes is Sorry, Mootbot is currently buggy and/or broken and I have no time to fix it at the moment. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause -- Seeker" <ebel> ah ok <airurando> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot <ebel> maybe we can find another meetingbot and ask if we can use it in this channel or something <airurando> aye <airurando> AlanBell chatted to me on this last night <airurando> he kindly offered to bring mootbot-uk in here for us. <airurando> :) <airurando> Said we must kick MootBot out first and the two don't get along. <tdr112> not to worry we can just copy the logsw from irc and that will do <ebel> huh <AlanBell> ah, ok it is seeker's bot <ebel> ah the joys of auto-reconnect <AlanBell> meetingology: hello you fine thing <meetingology> AlanBell: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. <ebel> I could kickban MootBot <AlanBell> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 4 09:17:12 2011 UTC. The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell. <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. <AlanBell> #topic lets talk about something <meetingology> TOPIC: lets talk about something <AlanBell> what should we discuss? <ebel> Dana. <airurando> the weather <AlanBell> #voters ebel AlanBell <meetingology> Current voters: AlanBell ebel * airurando wonders if AlanBell is aware of Dana <AlanBell> #vote this house believes that rain is yuck <meetingology> Please vote on: this house believes that rain is yuck <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) <AlanBell> +1 <meetingology> +1 received from AlanBell <ebel> +1 <airurando> +1 <meetingology> +1 received from ebel <AlanBell> airurando: your opinion counts for nothing :) * airurando can't vote :( <AlanBell> #endvote <meetingology> Voting ended on: this house believes that rain is yuck <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 <meetingology> Motion carried <AlanBell> #action AlanBell to fix some of the bugs in meetingology <meetingology> ACTION: AlanBell to fix some of the bugs in meetingology <AlanBell> #endmeeting <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 4 09:19:23 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4) <meetingology> Minutes: http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ie/2011/ubuntu-ie.2011-08-04-09.17.moin.txt <ebel> ,coool <ebel> And with timezone stuff aswell :) <AlanBell> ooh, I probably need to open another port on my router <ebel> AlanBell: cool, thanks for this meeting bot <airurando> ebel did you follow the link <airurando> I can't seem to load the page <ebel> i can't follow it <ebel> times out <airurando> but indeed thanks for the bot AlanBell <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mointesting <AlanBell> the minutes should be accessible now at http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ie/2011/ubuntu-ie.2011-08-04-09.17.moin.txt (or will be shortly I changed IP address) <airurando> Very nice indeed :) <airurando> Thanks again AlanBell <ebel> ooh cool <ebel> and in fancy markdown format <ebel> I assume that's suitable to paste into the wik.u.c.. <ebel> Nice one <ebel> AlanBell++ <AlanBell> moin format <AlanBell> yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mointesting is copy-paste-done <airurando> tdr112 you are right or course but while looking at my recorded MootBot logs in XChat-Gnome for compiling the minutes for some reason I was forced to copy and paste line by line <airurando> and that was frustrating * airurando loves copy-paste-done :) <AlanBell> it should fully accept the syntax of the old mootbot so you can do [topic] or #topic, it means the same <infoturtle> it's the 3rd that we intend to hold the UGJ isn't it? <tdr112> the sat <infoturtle> cheers <tdr112> infoturtle: nice email <tdr112> i must send one to tog <infoturtle> I just remembered I had rto do it last night so I said I'd get it done as soon as <locodir-user> Any person on line? I am new to this and does not know how to handle it <czajkowski> locodir-user: handle what ? <locodir-user> I am a Ubuntu user, installed on 3 of the 4 FREDs (Flipping Rediculous Electronic Devices) in my home. Need to learn more, and want to get involved where I can be of service. <czajkowski> locodir-user: where are you based ? <locodir-user> Enfield, Co. Meath <czajkowski> locodir-user: well the folks meet up in Dublin once a month <czajkowski> there will be a get to gether 1st week in september for some hands on help <locodir-user> Where... please! <czajkowski> locodir-user: ok go to http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ <czajkowski> and suscribe to our Ml <czajkowski> and it'll also anouce the Ubuntu global jam and ubuntu hours <locodir-user> Done. <locodir-user> Thank you. <ebel> hello locodir-user <ebel> there is also this channel, there are frequently people on line here from dublin <locodir-user> Subscription request confirmed <locodir-user> Thank you for the info.. Always willing to assist where I can <czajkowski> locodir-user: you should also be able to change you nick to /nick something <locodir-user> OK... Looking what to do... <czajkowski> airurando: nice work <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> minutes and logs? <czajkowski> aye <airurando> cheers :) <airurando> took me long enough #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-05 * slashtom would like to float an idea regarding the ubuntu hour... <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> hey cztab, how's the craic? <czajkowski> ntb <czajkowski> how's life with you? <slashtom> grand, we're back from our summer holidays <czajkowski> nice <slashtom> are you coming to dublin on your visit? <czajkowski> not sure tbh <czajkowski> I'm back for 10 days <czajkowski> and I think this time less running around is needed <slashtom> anyways, my idea for the ubuntu hour was that we could change the venue and time to better accommodate those who cannot or do not wish to enter a licenced premises, and where mid-week may be an issue <czajkowski> could do <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> what ever works well tbh <slashtom> aye, enjoy. hope the weather stays good for you in lahinch <ebel> yeah <ebel> czajkowski: you back now? <czajkowski> I will say that the venue is great imo, but that's just me, maybe tweeking the day/time might help <czajkowski> ebel: nope, not till the 23rd <slashtom> i have a few problems with the venue, the food choice is very poor if you don't eat meat, and from a non-selfish point of view, we're excluded all under 18's and anyone who doesn't want to enter a licenced premises <ebel> usually not too much of a problem. <slashtom> which isn't ebel? <czajkowski> slashtom: I'll agree with you the menu choice for you isn't great <czajkowski> but we've never had an issue with under 18's <ebel> hehe, I was remarking to slashtom yesterday that many floss groups want to keep venues/events friendly to women and yet have meet ups in bars which is quite muslim hostile :P <slashtom> that's because we meet in a pub and they're not allowed <czajkowski> and it's a hotel so it's ok to have them there, where as if you were in a bar/pub it would be an isue <ebel> I mean the licenced premisis issue. <slashtom> we have had under 18s to a geeknic before <czajkowski> but again I'm not there so not my call <ebel> though 50% of the population are women, and <<<<50% are muslim <czajkowski> ebel: I know pub meet ups don't go down with women in some counteries mostly eastern and even in some usa folks I know <czajkowski> but yer call <ebel> course you wanna go down that route we'd have to think about when ramadan is on, and when lent is on, etc.... <czajkowski> what ever ye do is your choice tbh <czajkowski> aye <slashtom> aye, i thought i would float the idea in channel first <ebel> czajkowski: oh i don't really care too much about the pub issue. Just depends on how pedantic you want to be. I think there's a Life of Brian skit about that :P <czajkowski> no I agree if you feel the venue/date/time isn't suiting you should change it <slashtom> my suggestion would be to meet on a saturday lunch/afternoon in a coffee shop <czajkowski> weekends either suit some or not others. <czajkowski> at the end of the day <czajkowski> there is no best day that will get everyone <czajkowski> :) <ebel> course we don't decide on things on abelist grounds either... how wheelchair friendly are we.... etc. <slashtom> suits you well if you live/work in town <ebel> the rabbit hole never ends... <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> if you start to rule out places due to x y z the list will never ed <czajkowski> *end <czajkowski> but as I say <czajkowski> I'm not there <czajkowski> not my call <czajkowski> :) <slashtom> i used to work out past clonee, that was a pain getting into town for 6pm - i would always be late <slashtom> i also feel that the current type of location and time is on similar ground with the ILUG PoTD <slashtom> why not be different, and expand the scope of the linux community? <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> can do <ebel> course, do we want to exclude travellers? <ebel> I don't know any travellers, isn't that weird... <slashtom> ebel: i'm not suggesting a sunday, which would clash with the horse fair ;) <ebel> would some venues de facto exclude travellers, do they? wonder if we have a "traveller friendly venue" :P <ebel> course this isn't something that's happened yet :P <tdr112> how about a ubuntu hour on a sat morning , 11 or some thing * ebel comes back from his tangent to a real conversation :P <slashtom> aye, that's the sort of thing tdr112 <ebel> yeah saturday lunch time. go to a cafÃ©, get some lunch/coffee * slashtom has memories of being one of the only emily84@example.com... so i think it would be good to be accessible to a larger audience <czajkowski> just note, if people have families kids hobbies, that weekends tend not to work <czajkowski> often easier to stay out after work for 1/2 jars and chat than leave home on a saturday when kids and parties are on <czajkowski> just my 2 cent <slashtom> the current wedneday in trinity capital hotel isn't working either <ebel> would weekends work for teenagers? <czajkowski> yup fair enough. <tdr112> lets try a few and see if they work better <ebel> easier for teenagers to go into town on a saturday afternoon than go to a pub on a school night. <ebel> suits different people <slashtom> aye, tdr112. i will send an email out to the mailing list later today on the subjet <tdr112> we need to get the emails/blog/tweets out about the picnic <czajkowski> tdr112: if you mail me details I'll add it to mine <slashtom> have you got a location or a big penguin ready for easy location within St Stephens Green? * slashtom emails the group... maybe it takes a non-irishman to suggest moving out of the pub :) <czajkowski> slashtom: :) <czajkowski> slashtom: just looking at the list of our members I don't notice any large portion or even any minors on the list <czajkowski> but maybe looking at another day/time is a good idea <czajkowski> best of luck :) <czajkowski> nice to have a bit of change <ebel> Tis all just eastern europeans like your self czajkowski :P <czajkowski> hey blame WWII for my surname <czajkowski> born in UK, lived there for 12 months, and then 30 years in ireland :) <czajkowski> I'm irish <czajkowski> I have no aligance to easten europe one bit <slashtom> tell that to everyone trying to pronounce "cztab" ;) <czajkowski> although http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Czajkowski is my grandfather <slashtom> does the mailing list even store information like DoB? <czajkowski> nope but going by pictures and people I know <czajkowski> ML doesnt ask for DOB <czajkowski> and the grandfather married then divorced and moved back to Poland and didnt settle in UK <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ie/+mugshots <czajkowski> 118 members <czajkowski> and 5 pending <ebel> czajkowski: Oh I know, I'm just joking with you. :) <czajkowski> touchy subject <czajkowski> I had no issue for so much of my life <slashtom> Bonglord looks very young <czajkowski> then the influx of pols coming in <czajkowski> I got lumped into same bunch <czajkowski> didnt like it <ebel> You're well Irish in my book. <czajkowski> slashtom: that's an 70/80s job pic <czajkowski> I guess we get some young new members like 1st year students come september <czajkowski> but most are 18 starting uni over here <czajkowski> or turning soon <slashtom> aye <czajkowski> I think ya have to do what ye feel is right <tdr112> wow that is a great quote Being a doctor is very depressing. You're always surrounded by sick people." <czajkowski> it's none of my business. I just know people don't like giving up weekends much :/ <ebel> anyways, tis always interesting to try to open things up, attrack people who may or may not be able to come <slashtom> i'm not on that list <ebel> sure we'll see what happens. <tdr112> reading all about Mr czajkowski <slashtom> most people aren't willing to give up a wednesday either! <czajkowski> slashtom: did you join the team ? <czajkowski> ebel: exactly <czajkowski> tdr112: I've no polite opinion of the man <czajkowski> he's related by blood and that's it <slashtom> i signed up to the mailing list, i didn't realise i had more to do <ebel> slashtom: launchpad has teams <czajkowski> slashtom: yeah join the team :) <czajkowski> be one of us <czajkowski> ok <czajkowski> hve got to get a cold shower <czajkowski> it's BOILING HOT HERE <czajkowski> toodles folks <czajkowski> tdr112: mail me geeknic info <royan> 'morning. <moylan> tis <royan> Looking for a hint. Trying to install using 10.10 LiveCD, but it gets OOM before reaching desktop, so I'm thinking I might add some usb swap just to get the install going; but how do you interrupt to a shell and then continue? <moylan> how much ram has the system got? <royan> can you set swap in a boot option? <royan> euw, about 256M, minus some for shared gfx <royan> if I switch to a console, I can see the oom killer in action <moylan> that is a little light alright. <moylan> only thing i can see for swap space is; http://codeidol.com/unix/ubuntu/Getting-Started/Customize-the-Ubuntu-Live-CD/ <royan> I saw that, the swap considerations there are for a machine /creating/ a CD, not for the target host. #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-06 <airurando> evening <czajkowski> airurando: howdy <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> thanks for the match tweets today <czajkowski> lol * airurando was at work :( <airurando> it's great it didn't count for anything <airurando> delighted to see Ubuntu Hour Dublin being discussed again <airurando> fair play to slashtom <czajkowski> aye <airurando> czajkowski: were you at the last geeknic in Stephens Green? <airurando> if so where did folks meet up? <airurando> never mind <airurando> I see a meeting place has already been identified <airurando> http://geeknic.org/?p=156 <airurando> need to get this onto the LoCo dir and also up on the website. <airurando> will get this done on Monday. #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-08 <airurando> good morning <slashtom> good morning <airurando> hi slashtom <airurando> well done on getting the ball rolling on UHD again. <slashtom> no problem, i was chatting with ebel about it the other day <slashtom> i do think that we need to try something different, will raise it at the geeknic and see what people think <slashtom> thinking maybe first saturday in september, if that suits <airurando> first Saturday in September? <airurando> no way <airurando> global Jam <slashtom> oh, i didn't have that in my schedule <airurando> maybe the second Saturday in September <airurando> aye nothing concrete yet <slashtom> second saturday is the coderetreat that tdr112 mentioned <slashtom> myself and ebel are booked on it <airurando> third? <slashtom> third saturday my mum is visiting <airurando> lol <slashtom> and on the forth weekend there is a beer festival at the RDS <slashtom> :P <airurando> october it is so! <airurando> first <airurando> ? <slashtom> what's happening at the global jam? <airurando> still a bit up in the air <airurando> infoturtle is trying to org Limerick again <airurando> tdr112 has hopefully asked TOG again. <airurando> haven't heard back from either yet <airurando> we also have an expression of interest from a 091labs guy in Galway <airurando> nothing concrete <airurando> he is looking into it to see if the interest is there <airurando> fingers crossed <slashtom> i cannot have been paying attention, otherwise it would have been on my schedule <slashtom> just as well we have nothing planned <airurando> glad you'll be there <airurando> Geeknic up on the website <airurando> http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/node/152 <airurando> and on the LoCo Dir <airurando> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1135/detail/ <airurando> I do hope the weather picks up for it! <moylan> wouldn't be an irish picnic without the challenge of drinking a cup of something faster than the rain can fill it! :-) <airurando> indeed moylan <airurando> and finally its now gone out to the mailing list <airurando> Phew..... <airurando> until I looked into this I didn't realise we held the second geeknic ever. <tdr112> evening <airurando> how do tdr112 <airurando> how are things with you? <tdr112> been busy , too much stuff on <airurando> I know that feeling all too well <airurando> did you get a chance to ask TOG about UGJ? <tdr112> i talked to a few about it <airurando> were they OK with it? <tdr112> the idea is fun , it should be ok <tdr112> i will confirm it this week <airurando> cool, only if you get a chance. <airurando> are you going to the Geeknic? <tdr112> i dont know yet ,i might be working <infoturtle> hye guys, I know it's a bit late but is anyone on here? looking for some help on how to start doing some bug solving <moylan> probably not the best person to ask but go ahead. <infoturtle> I just wanted to know how to go about it, I know nothing about where to start other than the list of bugs on launchpad launch pad. You know any sites that can help me get going? <infoturtle> *meant to delete that second launchpad <moylan> ah then definitely not the person to ask. i keep wanting to go to the ugj but never end up making it. <infoturtle> ok cool, not to worry. The whole thing just seems so vast to me. Maybe I'll find someone else #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-09 <czajkowski> Aloha <slashtom> good afternoon <slashtom> how's the war? <czajkowski> ntb <czajkowski> noisey night though <ebel> England Prevails! <czajkowski> indeed <ebel> Strength through Unity! <ebel> Verily. <tdr112> ebel: sounds like a right little rioter <ebel> Out of the bars! Into the Streets! <slashtom> Unity through Faith <ebel> czajkowski: get yourself a telly? <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> it stopped about 10 mins from the apartment <czajkowski> shops and local business closed up around 7 last night <czajkowski> so getting food last night was interesting <ebel> hehe <czajkowski> jon got nandos and I got other foods in the house <czajkowski> but tesco closed damn early as did iceland <czajkowski> take aways weren't really working <ebel> Time to stock up on food. <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> have job interview thursday <czajkowski> pending no riots! <ebel> Good luck! <czajkowski> ty <airurando> crikey who knows Kenneth O' Brien? He is one of the Linux Foundation Linux training scholarship winners! <airurando> only five picked out of 200 applicants <airurando> http://www.linux.com/news/galleries/linux-foundation-scholarship-winners-the-future-of-linux/kenneth-obrien-ireland <airurando> well done him!! <tdr112> he did the http://www.opensourceireland.org site , he talked at one of the ossbarcamp <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> he did indeed <airurando> wasn't it chris duffin who talked about osi? <tdr112> him too <tdr112> there was a few of them mostly from ucd i thing <tdr112> think <airurando> I know the name ken o'brien. I'm just trying to place him. <airurando> fair play to him anyway. <tdr112> well done to him <ricky108> hi <ricky108> can someone help me <ricky108> which irc server is the best place to chat with people in Ireland <moylan> most of the chatrooms on irc that i use are on irc.freenode.net <ricky108> ok <ricky108> I live in Limerick <ricky108> how to chat with people from there <czajkowski> ricky108: hiya <ricky108> hi <ricky108> whats up? <czajkowski> not much <czajkowski> ricky108: where are you in limerick <ricky108> in dorradoyle <ricky108> you? <ricky108> sorry first time chatting here <ricky108> this is the best place to chat with limerick people? <czajkowski> ricky108: sometimes <czajkowski> we;re kinda spread all over <czajkowski> come september more people from limerick are around <czajkowski> with the colleges back <ricky108> usually which one is the best for irelad <ricky108> i see so you are studying in University of Limerick <czajkowski> no I di a long time ago <czajkowski> ubuntu-ie is for ireland <ricky108> ok <ricky108> then <czajkowski> ricky108: we've got details of our events on ubuntu-ie.org <ricky108> oh ok <czajkowski> so there will hopefully be an event next september in lmerick <ricky108> what kind of events you organise <czajkowski> ricky108: so in september we're going to have global jam <czajkowski> where we work on bugs and areas <ricky108> bugs?? <ricky108> bacteria?? <czajkowski> ubuntu bugs <czajkowski> things that are broken <ricky108> what is ubunt? <ricky108> ubuntu? <czajkowski> ok why are you here??? <ricky108> i just wanted to chat <ricky108> and i googled it <ricky108> and i came here <ricky108> simple <ricky108> sorry for being stupid <czajkowski> ubuntu is an operating system <moylan> he's gone <czajkowski> fecking trolls <moylan> not a troll methinks. just a kid <czajkowski> moylan: to see bugs you can work on <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs <czajkowski> you can look at things and areas <moylan> that's a lot of bugs. now to see if i can make any of them happen locally... <daxroc> czajkowski: stalker eh ;) <czajkowski> ya long story <czajkowski> moylan: also folks in #ubuntu-bugs help <daxroc> for real , thought you were joking <czajkowski> I wish <daxroc> was stalking moylan too and #ubuntu-bugs wow ... Damn wish I had time to stalk someone <daxroc> How's the job hunting going ? <czajkowski> slow <czajkowski> but better thna at home for me <czajkowski> :/ <daxroc> Know it's slow here. glad I have a job but need more money too <daxroc> I'm working twice as hard for < half what I should be getting. <daxroc> ahwell great expierience here tho so not a total loss <daxroc> Best of luck with the hunting. Have a good one <czajkowski> thanks <daxroc> may get some garlic for that stalker just incase eh ! <czajkowski> http://laughingsquid.com/beard-measuring-t-shirt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+laughingsquid+%28Laughing+Squid%29 <infoturtle> that picture makes me want that t-shirt and an epic beard <czajkowski> infoturtle: did you see the link I posted re bugs <czajkowski> or you can join the bug squad in ubuntu-bugs <infoturtle> I'm in the room but must have come in after your link <infoturtle> #ubuntu-bugs I mean <czajkowski> infoturtle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs <infoturtle> cheers, I was just flicking through those trying to find something easy to start on. Also doing some C but just started on it <daxroc> wow best wifi ap name ever .. c:\virus.exe <daxroc> FreeBSD rocks damn it <infoturtle> Would anyone have any intrest in working on a bug in a group, for those who haven't done it before, before the UGJ? <czajkowski> infoturtle: could do <czajkowski> just not today <czajkowski> infoturtle: if you ask or join the bug squad they'll help you <czajkowski> infoturtle: or maybe fagan would hel <czajkowski> help <infoturtle> I'd ask there but I have the fear of looking stupid. Any day would be great at all (unless I'm moving) and I'd be thankful for it. <infoturtle> If anyone would be willing to help and join to see how it's done it would be great <infoturtle> I just have no idea how to tackle the code <czajkowski> infoturtle: it;s busier during the day <czajkowski> moylan: would you be up for it also <infoturtle> That's great czajkowski, thanks, I'll keep an eye on the room in the mean time and when you/anyone can string some time together I'll be here :D #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-10 <infoturtle> Anyone ever try to sign the CoC under Kubuntu? I don't seem to have the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" menu option <czajkowski> infoturtle: sorry don't run kubuntu <czajkowski> have you asked in the kubuntu channel <infoturtle> Wouldn't say too mant do <infoturtle> Said I'd ask the local team first <czajkowski> I only know of 1 person in the -ie team who uses it <czajkowski> and he is rarely online <czajkowski> sorry <czajkowski> .c <infoturtle> yar tis fine, just trying to get most of the basic things done today for my launchpad account, I'm sure I'll find a way to sort it <czajkowski> infoturtle: join #ubuntu-locoteams for a momen <czajkowski> *moment <czajkowski> infoturtle: ? <infoturtle> sorry, writing back to milklabs about UBJ, joining now <ebel> I think you can do the gpg signing on command line <infoturtle> cheers ebel, I got pointed to kpgp and just reading the --help about it now <ebel> cool <tdr112> i did it via the command line <czajkowski> tdr112: good so how goes your application eh :) <czajkowski> tdr112: you can't ignore me for ever :) <tdr112> czajkowski: must get back to that #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-11 <airurando> evening <czajkowski> aloha #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-12 <tdr112> morning <tdr112> can you downgrade <slashtom> so.... <slashtom> what happens when if rains on sunday? <ebel> we grumble about the weather like normal irish people * slashtom stands under ebel's umbrella <ebel> (Note to self: bring umbrella on sunday) <tdr112> slashtom: there is a place where you can take cover <slashtom> aye, next to ebel #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-13 <airurando> evening <airurando> anyone about to help me with a SMTP issue? <airurando> moylan? <moylan> hi <moylan> airurando: looking for me? <airurando> ho moylan <airurando> sorry for delay <airurando> watching match <moylan> no worries <moylan> sort smtp prob? <airurando> wondering if you can help with this small issue. <airurando> not yet <airurando> at sisters house <airurando> yes the one whos data I lost <airurando> using thunderbird for her mail <airurando> all fine incoming <moylan> thunderbird... shudders! <moylan> gmail? <airurando> however error message appears with outgoing <airurando> no eircom.net <moylan> what's the error? <airurando> funny thing is <airurando> The settings when connected through eircom router or e-mobile anddroid all runs smoothly <moylan> if you want to finish watching match i can wait <airurando> no no its fine <airurando> she connects through perlico <airurando> I'll bring up the error message again <airurando> here it is <airurando> An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.1.1 <emily84@example.com> Blacklisted by Spamhaus: http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?(316)288-4715";. Please check the message recipient emily84@example.com and try again. <airurando> I've looked into spamhaus.org <moylan> i think it's recognising that the system was infected and sending spam. and this block still applies. <airurando> http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL337174 <airurando> well this system is no longer infected as I'ts the one I wiped and installed ubuntu 10.10 on <moylan> and you have turned on smtp authentication? <airurando> any idea what I can do here to get around this <airurando> again it does not happen when connected through an eircom internet connection or e-mobile <moylan> i found that toggling ssl either/or ssh in the smtp settings would make the server happy. <airurando> I'll give it a go <airurando> SMTP authentication does seem to be the issue <moylan> this is why i use gmail. less eircom silliness. <airurando> yeah but she so likes her username (very nostalgic reason) and its not available on gmail <moylan> ah but you can set up gmail to spoof the eircom account <airurando> I switched connection security under outgoing server to SSL/TLS and I believe it has just timed out <moylan> just firing up thunderbird. first time in a year or 2... <airurando> star bar <airurando> I reckon I've tried all combinations under the security and authentication section of the outgoing server to no avail :( <airurando> would this be a support call to perlico as the issue does not exist through eircom in my house and my emobile HTC desire here? <moylan> still struggling with crappy thunderbird. insists on using crappy imap. bear with me. <airurando> no prob <airurando> thanks again moylan <moonpie> airurando: http://support.eircom.net/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/&/?St=81&E=0000000000298794717&K=5939&Sxi=3&Case=obj(6708) <moonpie> *Note: If you are NOT using an eircom net connection, you MUST use your internet provider's own SMTP server OR eircom webmail. <moonpie> Seems you'll have to use Perlico's SMTP <moonpie> from a perlico connection <moylan> they should have given you smtp information. or it may be available on their site. <airurando> moonpie moylan thanks so much <airurando> I'll work on that * airurando will ask sister and trawl the net <moylan> if all else fails spoofing will send the mail <airurando> success <moylan> huzzah! <airurando> thanks moonpie and moylan <airurando> the answer was switching the outgoing server to mail.vodafone.ie <airurando> got that from http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=60669050 <airurando> I am happy out <airurando> this was a legacy issue from my sisters MS win days so I knew I wasn't ubuntu related <airurando> the fact that it has been resolved on Ubuntu through you guys only goes to strengten my sisters resolve to keep on trucking with ubuntu <airurando> 4 teenage kids in the house and only one is complaining thus far <airurando> a month into the switch <airurando> now must switch accounts and try to get a few CDs digitised and put on my nieces ipod nano #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-14 <tdr112> what.time is it.on today <airurando> tdr112: 1pm to 3 pm ish <airurando> local time off course..... * airurando might be a bit late <airurando> just returned home from the south within the last few minutes <airurando> need to get myself organised and then hit the road from here. <airurando> Tipp supporters on the LUAS might delay me. <airurando> I hope the red cow luas car park isn't fill by the time I get there!! <airurando> why is loco.ubuntu.com so very slow? <tdr112> evening <ebel> hello <Pendulum> hi <daxroc> Evening #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-15 <tdr112> how did you all get on <slashtom> grand, there were 5 of us yesterday <ebel> yo yo <tdr112> good stuff <infoturtle> hey all, I'm moing house all this week and it's mostly in the evening I'll be doing it. If I get a link for someone could you proxy for me as I had to get onto the miLK labs here about UGJ <infoturtle> *moving <infoturtle> for the meeting this week, sorry, didn't finish what I was talking about <infoturtle> http://groups.google.com/group/limerick-hackerspace/browse_thread/thread/5a63ceb814efbc13 I'll just leave that on record anyway <czajkowski> aloha <infoturtle> hey czajkowski #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-16 <tdr112> can you save iptables so i dont have to run it each time i boot up <ebel> iptables -L <ebel> as root <ebel> er maybe... ask slashtom <ebel> sometimes people add a post-up command to the /etc/network/interfaces <tdr112> slashtom: are you about <slashtom> aye <tdr112> i was just asking about iptables , being sorted out in #ubuntu-server <tdr112> they tell me to use iptables-save <slashtom> don't forget about ip6tables <slashtom> relication i know, but unavoidable <slashtom> personally i write my ip[6]tables as an init script <tdr112> slashtom: we dont have a ipv6 ip yet <slashtom> shocking, even my elderly mother has IPv6! <ebel> :P <tdr112> i know, i know <airurando> evening #ubuntu-ie 2011-08-17 <Tribaal> Hi folks <Tribaal> I'm a member of the Swiss LoCo, and I'll be moving to Ireland in the next couple of months <Tribaal> so I wanted to jump in and say hi :) <ebel> hello Tribaal <Tribaal> how active are you guys? The page linked seems pretty active <ebel> Ah relatively. <ebel> We had a geeknic (geek picnic) last weekend <ebel> we have regular irc meetings. (coming up soon, so you can pop along if you want to see stuff) <Tribaal> nice :) <Tribaal> geeknics sound like fun <ebel> we'll be taking part in the ubuntu global jam soon, another event you can come along to <ebel> where in ireland are you moving too? <Tribaal> Dublin <ebel> Most ubuntu-ie activity happens in dublin. <Tribaal> my wife and I are pretty scared (it's the first time we move abroad) <Tribaal> good to know <Tribaal> :) <Tribaal> So how many people were there at the geeknic? <ebel> varied. last one was small, only 4. :P <ebel> soon the weather will turn against us :) <ebel> There's also a hackerspace in dublin (TOG), if you're looking around <Tribaal> Ohhhh interesting <ebel> ubuntu-ie also does semi-regular intermitant meet ups in pubs thoughout the yera <ebel> are you on the mailing list? we also have an identica/twitter account <Tribaal> not yet <Tribaal> It just occured to me "hey I spend my days on IRC, why not start by hopping on the ubuntu LoCo channel <ebel> http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuie <ebel> this channel is usually pretty active <ebel> http://identi.ca/ubuntuie <Tribaal> Followin' <Tribaal> :) <Tribaal> thanks ebel <tdr112> anyone know how to add a file to a .war in ubuntu <ebel> is it just a zip file with a .war file ending? (i.e. maybe you can unzip add file, re-zip) <tdr112> it is a zip , <czajkowski> aloha <tdr112> so tar is not the one to use <Tribaal> you can "sudo aptitude install unzip" then "zip whatever.war [list of files or folder]" <ebel> The minutes show that we've had this meeting apparently.... http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/153/detail/ <ebel> well the loco directory entry for this meeting has details filled in <airurando> anyone around for the meeting <carles-091labs> present <airurando> hi carles-091labs <carles-091labs> hi <airurando> we'll start in a few more mins <airurando> I was just wondering who was online <moylan> i'm here <airurando> hi moylan <thelodger> G'day all <airurando> howdy thelodger <airurando> ebel ping <moylan> hi airurando. <airurando> I reckon we should start <airurando> others may join <airurando> I'll chair <airurando> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 17 19:06:36 2011 UTC. The chair is airurando. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. <airurando> evening all and welcome to the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo monthly IRC meeting for August <airurando> our agenda for this evenings meeting is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-08-17 <airurando> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-08-17 <airurando> as you can see we have a new bot as MootBot was bust <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-08-17 <airurando> hmm <airurando> we'll move on <airurando> if you are present for the meeting please indicate so by typing PRESENT <airurando> PRESENT <carles-091labs> presnet <moylan> PRESENT <thelodger> PRESENT <ebel> PRESENT (sorta) <airurando> #topic Review of previous action items <meetingology> TOPIC: Review of previous action items <airurando> from last month we had a few actions items <airurando> #topic ACTION: infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick <meetingology> TOPIC: ACTION: infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick <airurando> infoturtle can't be here tonight and sends his apologies <airurando> he has done some work on this and asked me to give the update <airurando> MilkLabs hackerspace have been approached and asked to host the Jam on Sept 3rd <airurando> The initial response has been positive but nothing has been confirmed as of yet. <airurando> #link http://groups.google.com/group/limerick-hackerspace/browse_thread/thread/5a63ceb814efbc13 <airurando> the above listed e-mail thread gives a good indication of the progress that has been made so far. <airurando> infoturtle has done great work on this and hopefully it will all fall into place for him <carles-091labs> About the Jam on September <carles-091labs> I was going to host one in 091labs but just yesterday i got the news from jefrey about going to electric picnic <carles-091labs> so, I won't be able to host it. Not sure if any of our members will take my place <airurando> Thats a pity but not to worry. <airurando> we'll wait for confirmation from infoturtle before promoting UGJ Limerick <airurando> carles-091labs definately next time eh? ;) <carles-091labs> I'm at the space at the moment and talking with some of the members. One of them said that he will do it <airurando> cool :) <airurando> we can chat on that in a minute <carles-091labs> ok <airurando> but that is brilliant. <airurando> #topic ACTION: tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <meetingology> TOPIC: ACTION: tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <airurando> I know tdr112 asked TOG. <airurando> no confirmation as of yet though. <airurando> ebel do you know anything on this? <ebel> Yes <ebel> I will be organising the Dubin global jam in TOG <ebel> (at least I'll be approaching TOG about this) <ebel> I haven't done it yet, since tdr112 only told me yesterday <airurando> OK <ebel> But I'll do it within the next few days. It'll take ~ 5 days to get word back from the tog members to confirm/reject it <ebel> so we'll know within 5 or 6 days if we can have emily84@example.com. I am optimistic <airurando> OK we'll leave it at that <airurando> #action ebel will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <meetingology> ACTION: ebel will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <airurando> moving on <airurando> the last action from July was <airurando> #topic ACTION: moylan to generate a doodle poll to decide on the location for the August geeknic <meetingology> TOPIC: ACTION: moylan to generate a doodle poll to decide on the location for the August geeknic <airurando> moylan do you want to provide a synopsis? <moylan> first time using doodle. we got a fair number of votes and people selected st. stephens green. but about 1/3 who voted for their turned up. <airurando> at least the sun shone mostly <airurando> small turnout <moylan> can't really think of a better way to get the word out to more people. <airurando> but good company <moylan> good fun. i enjoyed it. pics will be good come next reapproval :-) <airurando> indeed <ebel> yep <airurando> slashtom has many :) <airurando> we'll move on to agenda items proper <moylan> found one on my samsung tab that's quite good. <airurando> #topic Ubuntu Global Jam <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu Global Jam <airurando> we have discussed venues already <airurando> Dublin and Limerick are in progress <airurando> Galway is also stepping up to the plate hopefully :) <airurando> carles-091labs you say you have news! <carles-091labs> one of our members is going to host the event for me <airurando> :) <mokmeister> present <mokmeister> sorry guys for the late arrival <carles-091labs> Not sure how succesfull this is going to be. I was looking forward to this... Next time i'll be there <airurando> hi mokmeister <carles-091labs> hi <mokmeister> hi airurando <mokmeister> hi carles-091labs <airurando> carles-091labs success isn't the driver <airurando> getting together and having fun is <mokmeister> everything has to start somewhere! <airurando> as few people as you like <carles-091labs> I know.... <airurando> carles-091labs onto some praticalities <airurando> we usually promote these jams on the Ubuntu Wiki, LoCo Directory, our website and twitter/identi.ca <airurando> any objection to this? <carles-091labs> cool... Hopefully will get some people outside our members <carles-091labs> no, no <airurando> 091 labs kindly host a Global Jam event etc etc <airurando> excellent <carles-091labs> We will promote through our channels also <airurando> are 091 Labs OK with a 10am to 6pm ish timeframe on 3rd Sept <airurando> great promote away <airurando> the hope is always to promote the hackerspaces and ubuntu <airurando> carles-091labs so you have no objection to me promoting this as outlined above <thelodger> Shouldn't be a problem <thelodger> One member will be there from 10am and I should be back in town by 3pm <carles-091labs> yeah... just confirming with the member that will host it.... and he's fine with it <airurando> absolutely brilliant <airurando> any support or info you may want holler here or drop a line to the mailing list <carles-091labs> ok <airurando> #agreed 091labs will kindly host a UGJ Event <airurando> bah new bot not working properly <airurando> moving on <airurando> last agenda item <airurando> #topic Event Planning <meetingology> TOPIC: Event Planning <airurando> this is mine also <airurando> I'm just wondering whether or not we should try to plan and lock down events alot sooner than we currently do. <airurando> I agree with moylan, I don't know how we can get the word out better about events <ebel> how do you mean? <carles-091labs> what event is this? <airurando> carles-091labs all events <airurando> geeknics <airurando> Ubuntu Hours <moylan> just wondering. would a google calendar for ubuntu ireland help? <airurando> Jams <airurando> moylan the loco dir is supposed to do something along those lines <airurando> ebel I mean we don't finalise details of things until a week or two before they are due to happen <airurando> Where possible I think we could do alot better on this <airurando> geeknics could be organised and agreed upon months in advance <airurando> news of the event could filter out better in these situations <airurando> Jams should be organised as soon as the dates are announces <airurando> *announced <airurando> we'll as soon as practical after the announcement <airurando> just a thought <ebel> hmmm maybe.... <ebel> you're right about some events that we know in advance... <airurando> I don't think it be much harder to lock the details down sooner <airurando> promote them sooner and for a longer period <ebel> twould mean being more organised <airurando> keep your calanders free kind of stuff <airurando> not a whole lot more organised <airurando> but a bit <airurando> would need to make decisions quicker also <airurando> date one month <airurando> venue the next <airurando> this eats away at time <airurando> moylan thoughts <airurando> carles-091labs thoughts? <airurando> thoughts anyone? <moylan> we should streamline the decision process. maybe the next time the doodle poll should be a location + date selection in one poll. <moylan> also maybe block book the 1st saturday of the month for events or something... <ebel> i agree to try to give it a go, but i'm a terrible one for the procrastinator <airurando> haha <carles-091labs> we can definetly try <airurando> moylan I agree but I think actioning it at one meeting and agreeing on it at the next may even be too long <airurando> I just wanted to get folks thinking on this <carles-091labs> there's always the mailing list... we don't have to wait that ling <carles-091labs> #long <airurando> we can leave it here <airurando> carles-091labs that is a good idea <moylan> might put more activity onto the mailing list <airurando> indeed <carles-091labs> true <airurando> we can all think on it <airurando> #topic any other business <meetingology> TOPIC: any other business <carles-091labs> not from me <airurando> #topic next meeting date proposed for Wednesday 21st of September. <meetingology> TOPIC: next meeting date proposed for Wednesday 21st of September. <airurando> any objections <airurando> no? <carles-091labs> nope <airurando> cool <moylan> nope <airurando> as there is nothing else we'll finish up here <airurando> thanks all for attending and participating <airurando> looking forward to UGJ Galway joining in
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