#ubuntu-bugs 2006-12-01 <lifeless> 2) yes. <lifeless> 3) I've triaged far to many in the past for products, but not done specific triaging within ubuntu... hmm <lifeless> hangon, apport and hwddb I did some cleanup on <Kaleo> sfllaw: I would like to apply for ubuntu-qa. <sfllaw> Kaleo: OK. You just have to answer three questions: <sfllaw> 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? <sfllaw> 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? <sfllaw> 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? <Kaleo> 1. yes <Ubugtu> New bug: #73989 in gftp (main) "gftp randomly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73989 <Kaleo> 2. I am doing this now <Kaleo> 3. Let me see <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/30910 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 30910 in hwdb-client "Hardware Database not browseable" [Medium,Unconfirmed] <lifeless> sortof-triaged <Kaleo> 2. done <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/17595 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 17595 in hwdb-client "failure to parse xorg output leads to a hung gui." [Medium,Needs info] <lifeless> found duplicates for this and isolated the failure <sfllaw> lifeless: All right. You're in. <sfllaw> Let me hit the right button. <lifeless> thank you <Kaleo> I do not know <Kaleo> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/3647 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 3647 in totem ""On Top" menu bug" [Unknown,Confirmed] <Adri2000> sfllaw: I would like to be part of ubuntu-qa too :) <sfllaw> Adri2000: Hurray! 3 questions. <sfllaw> Ready? <sfllaw> 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? <sfllaw> 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? <sfllaw> 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? <Kaleo> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33387 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Creative webcam plus driver does not work." [Medium,Confirmed] <Adri2000> 1. Of course :) <Adri2000> 2. Yes <Kaleo> sfllaw: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 <Adri2000> 3. today in the package lopster: bug 32449 64340 73938 (and https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/adri2000/+karma) <Ubugtu> Malone bug 32449 in lopster "1.2.0 is an obsolete version" [Wishlist,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32449 <lifeless> sfllaw: is there a canned 'untriaged bugs' search ? <sfllaw> lifeless: Ugh. No. We've asked LP. <sfllaw> You can find one in the UbuntuHugDay page, I think. <lifeless> sfllaw: yes, but can we do one with advanced ? <sfllaw> Yes. <sfllaw> There's a URL on the wiki page about it. <sfllaw> I've bookmarked it myself. <lifeless> this should be on HowToTriage <Adri2000> sfllaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lopster/+bugs and "All bugs ever reported" <sfllaw> lifeless: True. <sfllaw> Kaleo: When you set bugs to Needs Info, can you assign them to yourself? <sfllaw> And when you set them to Confirmed, assign them to Nobody? <Adri2000> sfllaw: I heard of that, it's a new rule? <sfllaw> Yeah. <Adri2000> ok <Kaleo> sfllaw: ok <Kaleo> it makes sense <Adri2000> sfllaw: tell me if I can join the team on launchpad <sfllaw> Kaleo: All right, I will approve you. <sfllaw> Adri2000: Looking through LP now. <Kaleo> sfllaw: thank you, you are kind. <lifeless> sfllaw: on the page now <sfllaw> lifeless: Hmm, I noticed that. <sfllaw> lifeless: Please tell me when you're done. <lifeless> sfllaw: I mean 'I'm done, its on the page now' <sfllaw> lifeless: I just realized that HowToTriage doesn't reflect the Assignee policy. <sfllaw> Ah. <lifeless> sfllaw: ok, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/50290 is already fixed in edgy <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] <lifeless> sfllaw: dapper is also fixed I think, via dapper updates <lifeless> sfllaw: how would you choose to reflect this? fix released, with a comment ? <coNP> I am a newbie, so can I confirm a bug report if I think it has been confirmed? <coNP> in fact it seems to be confirmed by many users, only that the status is still unconfirmed <lifeless> coNP: when asking for advice, please quote the bug #. I.e. bug 1234 <Ubugtu> Bug 1234 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 is private <lifeless> coNP: that will let folk that want to advise look at the relevant data :) <coNP> is it that nobody wanted to change the status for some reason, or that no one "dared" to set it unconfirmed <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: tunfortunetly it us up to the Bug QA team to do that <Admiral_Chicago> least it in a duplicate or something like that <lifeless> coNP: we dont know. Whats the bug #? <coNP> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/60210 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60210 in openbox "Missing libobrender.so.1/libobparser.so.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] <coNP> okay, than I misunderstood sfllaw in the afternoon <lifeless> Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage says anyone can confirm <lifeless> coNP: I dont think you misunderstood <coNP> okay, then I was right :) <Admiral_Chicago> lifeless: let me look i don't remember seeing that but i'll check <Ubugtu> New bug: #73990 in xorg-server (main) "Xnest recommends using a universe package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73990 <sfllaw> Well, it says "you can Confirm" <sfllaw> Which is a pretty inclusive you. <sfllaw> I figure if you can read this page, that's you. <coNP> so what do you think, is there a special reason not to confirm it? <coNP> because I was surprised to see as many comments at a bug that is not confirmed <sfllaw> coNP: Hmm. Do you know what openbox is? <coNP> sfllaw: of course, I use it daily <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: check where it shows the package name, click it, there should be a drop down menu <coNP> it is an X window manager <sfllaw> coNP: Does it break without these libraries? <coNP> Admiral_Chicago: I know how to do it :) <coNP> sfllaw: yes, all comments are true and useful <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: and you can't? <coNP> Admiral_Chicago: I can, but I was wandering if I _should_ <sfllaw> coNP: I'm a little shocked that a non lib* package has shared libraries in it. <sfllaw> coNP: But it seems to be a valid bug. <Admiral_Chicago> sfllaw: you think it's a good idea? <coNP> actually openbox does not need these libraries <coNP> only obconf that is a configuration tool for it <coNP> and a separate package <sfllaw> coNP: I'd say change the bug report's description. <sfllaw> Say that libobrender.so.1 and libobparser.so.1 aren't shipped any more in a package. <sfllaw> And that a separate libopenbox package should be created for these shared libraries. <sfllaw> Then obconf can depend on libopenbox. <sfllaw> http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html <lifeless> sfllaw: I think you are wrong :) <sfllaw> lifeless: Really? <lifeless> yes <sfllaw> lifeless: Fair enough. <lifeless> /usr/lib/ called libobrender.so.0.4.0 and libobparser.so.0.4.0 whick acc. to dpkg -S are installed by openbox package. <lifeless> from near the top <sfllaw> Oh. <sfllaw> It's just symlinks. <lifeless> I'm thinking a rebuild is needed <sfllaw> Boy do I feel dumb. <sfllaw> Yeah, it's likely a packaging bug. <lifeless> coNP: definately confirm this <lifeless> coNP: as you note - there are people confirming it <sfllaw> And it is a complete bug report. <sfllaw> Albeit difficult to read. <coNP> yes, therefore was I _shocked_ why it has not been confirmed yet <sfllaw> coNP: That's why we're glad you're here! <sfllaw> :) * sfllaw hugs coNP. * coNP hugs back both sfllaw and lifeless <lifeless> coNP: I would try to update the description to be more clear - the packaging appears to be faulty, and it needs a packager to alexanderlisa@example.com. <lifeless> coNP: this means it is not an upstream bug, its a bug in ubuntu specifically <lifeless> sfllaw: so my question was, bug 50290 is fixed upstream, and the fixed package is in edgy for sure <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/50290 <lifeless> sfllaw: whats the protocol to close bugs ? <sfllaw> If it's in Edgy, it's Fix Released. <Ubugtu> New bug: #73435 in xchat (universe) "unexpected quit" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73435 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73991 in Ubuntu "Belkin USB 4 Port Hub F5U021 : Failure to mount Lexar Thumbdrive (and perhaps any other usb device?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73991 <sfllaw> The protocol to close bugs for non-triagers is poorly defined. <Adri2000> sfllaw: looked at my triaged bugs? <lifeless> sfllaw: ok, so fix released, dont touch milestone, just a comment ? <sfllaw> lifeless: Yes. There's no need to touch any of the other stuff. <lifeless> thanks <sfllaw> Adri2000: You're good. <lifeless> sfllaw: bug 50339 <Ubugtu> Bug 50339 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/50339 is private <lifeless> sfllaw: can you see that? its got no subscribers other than the reporter. <sfllaw> lifeless: You're going to have to subscribe me to that one. <Adri2000> sfllaw: ok, I have just joined the team <lifeless> sfllaw: hmm. I'll take this to #launchpad. I think its a glitch <sfllaw> lifeless: The UI could have let someone do that. <lifeless> but its a black hole. <lifeless> so we need to prevent this <Adri2000> sfllaw: thanks! :) <sfllaw> OK. Dinner time. <lifeless> sfllaw: you should get people to promise to triage 1 bug a day :) <lifeless> 4) Will you triage 1 bug a day ? <sfllaw> lifeless: People would unconsciously lie. <lifeless> true enough <lifeless> then perhaps we can encourage 'a bug a day' <crimsun> does that then mean that if people consistently don't triage one per day then they get evicted? * ajmitch certainly doesn't triage 1 bug a day at the moment <sfllaw> ajmitch: Off with your head! <sfllaw> :) * ajmitch ducks <Ubugtu> New bug: #73993 in Ubuntu "Galaxy Screen Saver Reboot System Automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73993 <a7p> what do you think about this one: #1725 it's over a year old and nothing was ever done about it (and I think there never will be ... proper network-anonymity should be handled another way). <a7p> generally what about all the things maked as "Whishlist" for over a year? <a7p> with no reply ever ... <coNP> if there is a bug reported more than once, which should become the duplicate? <coNP> the one that has been reported first should be left? <tarheelcoxn> or the more complete one, the one with better notes <coNP> yes that is the question... :) <coNP> so you say, tarheelcoxn, it is up to me? <a7p> coNP, it is. <tarheelcoxn> the better one. mark the one that's not as complete as a duplicate of the better one <coNP> okay, thanks both a7p & tarheelcoxn <Ubugtu> New bug: #73994 in drgeo (universe) "Crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73994 <a7p> mmm ... why can't I find the package sane-backends-extras via apt-cache search ? It seems to exist in the bugtracker, but I also can not find it via packages.ubuntu.com ... what does that mean? <a7p> ah, it is a source-package which generates libsane-extras ... <a7p> quit confusing <coNP> I did a mistake <coNP> I added a wrong distribution link to bug #59305 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59305 in tilda "problem with specifying size as a percentage" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59305 <coNP> how could I remove it? <crimsun> coNP: you can't. You can reject it, and add the correct distribution, however. <coNP> crimsun: thanks <Ubugtu> New bug: #73995 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Banshee Web resource help links fail to load if browser not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73995 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73996 in gaim (main) "crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73996 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73997 in firefox (main) "Windows Live Mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73997 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73998 in Ubuntu "Open Office word crashes when copying and pasting text into gaim chat." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73998 <yamal> no less than 18 dupes and still people keep reporting it anew <Admiral_Chicago> yamal: the OO crash? <yamal> yup <Admiral_Chicago> i'll keep it in mind if i see it <Ubugtu> New bug: #73999 in gksu (main) "Crashes. Spawned by update-manager. Possible interaction issue with synergy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73999 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74000 in control-center (main) "crashes when I change gnome theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74000 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74002 in file-roller (main) "[Feisty] File Roller's "Extract" button no longer functions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74002 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74003 in Ubuntu "Kernel Panic --Edgy-- unable to mount root fs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74003 <towsonu2003> I truly hate searching for bugs in launchpad... can never find what I'm looking for, even if it's among the ones I'm subscribed too... <Ubugtu> New bug: #74004 in initramfs-tools (main) "Doesn't include qla2xxx firmware" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74004 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74005 in viewcvs (universe) "viewcvs should require python-subversion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74005 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74006 in xserver-kdrive (universe) "Cap lock key stuck in cap lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74006 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74007 in gnome-media (main) "volume control not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 <yamal> what to do with a bug without subscribers? even the initial reporter isn't subscribed (anymore?) <crimsun> which? <yamal> crimsun: Bug #62042 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62042 in openoffice.org "OPenoffice malfunctioning with SCIM" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62042 <crimsun> yamal: technically at least three groups are notified still <Ubugtu> New bug: #74008 in compiz (universe) "Taking screenshots of the invidual window fails to capture window decorators" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74008 <yamal> yeah that's true <yamal> though even very basic info requested just after it was filed is still missing never to be added :/ <towsonu2003> how do you debug program hangs? <towsonu2003> I mean if this was a crash, you'd use gdb <towsonu2003> what do you use for hangs? <towsonu2003> anyone? <Ubugtu> New bug: #74009 in Ubuntu "Kernel panic after "Initializing /dev" during startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74009 <Ubugtu> New bug: #68937 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice opens files read-only fromn nfs mounted partition" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68937 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74010 in xmms (main) "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 <towsonu2003> you cant make fun of bug 74010 while I'm here can you :Pp <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74010 in xmms "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74012 in compiz (universe) "Compiz crashes with two X-screens" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74012 <dholbach> good morning <Ubugtu> New bug: #74013 in initramfs-tools (main) "Wrong grep switch in all_generic_ide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74013 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74014 in initramfs-tools (main) "scripts/init-top/all_generic_ide uses wrong call to grep" [High,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74014 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74016 in im-switch (main) "[Sync request] Sync im-switch-1.13 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74016 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74018 in initramfs-tools (main) "2.6.19 panics on boot in vmware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74018 <Cieffe> can i reject this bug 61683? <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 <Cieffe> the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly <dfarning> I am triaging a bug #68538 that was files against firefox, Got some info back from reported that leads me to believe that it is a blackdown bug <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68538 in firefox "When visiting www.map24.com Firefox starts hanging permanently after a few seconds." [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68538 <dfarning> how do I move it? <dholbach> click on the 'firefox' in the yellow bar in the middle <dholbach> and replace firefox with blackdown <dfarning> man, I was looking for something more complicated;) <dfarning> thanks <dholbach> I'm sure you can do it in a more complicated way :-) <dholbach> anytime :) <dholbach> hmmmmm, nothing like bug triage in the morning <cypher1> dholbach: hi <cypher1> dholbach: how are you <dholbach> hey cypher1 <dholbach> good good - how are you? <cypher1> dholbach: fine too thanks <cypher1> dholbach: december started :) <dholbach> yeah <Cieffe> can i reject this bug 61683? <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 <Cieffe> the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly <dholbach> I looked forward to the 1st of december for two weeks now :-) <cypher1> dholbach: :-) <dholbach> Cieffe: good catch - close it * dholbach hugs Cieffe * dholbach marks bug 74007 as a dup of bug 65822 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74007 in gnome-media "volume control not working" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65822 in gnome-media "gnome-volume-control crashed" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65822 <dholbach> cypher1: I'm going to play in a club nearby tonight - that's what I've been looking forward to :-) <cypher1> play means ? <dholbach> play records <Ubugtu> New bug: #74020 in xorg (main) "computer freezes when starting glxgears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74020 <Cieffe> today i close or commented some bug report in rythmbox <dholbach> Cieffe: I noticed - good work on those! <Cieffe> There are still 3 report with status unconfirmed/undecided that i don't know how to handle <Cieffe> dholbach: can you help me on this? <Cieffe> dholbach: thanks! :) <dholbach> Cieffe: which ones are those? <dholbach> I'll try <Cieffe> bug 66924 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66924 in rhythmbox "behaves poorly when a previous instance has frozen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66924 <Cieffe> maybe i should only ask if the problem is still present? <dholbach> Yeah, ask if he could try with Edgy or Feisty and you could probably forward it as a suggestion upstream <dholbach> and probably ask for a rhythmbox -d log <dholbach> also a backtrace might be useful to find out why the existing instance is hanging <dholbach> (if so) <dholbach> gdb -p $(pidof rhythmbox) <Ubugtu> New bug: #74021 in xorg (main) "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg's monitor test freezes computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74021 <Cieffe> ok i'm going to ask if the problme is still present, if so i ask for other info <Cieffe> other bug 66810 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 <dholbach> Cieffe: the backtrace indicates that there's something wrong with gnome-vfs <dholbach> it's not clear what rhythmbox was trying to do, so a -d log might help also <dholbach> I'm just doing some searches on the upstream bugzilla <dholbach> often it's enough to search for a function name in one of the comments in the upstream tracker <dholbach> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=gnome_vfs_uri_unref&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_cont <dholbach> act2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= <dholbach> oops <dholbach> http://tinyurl.com/yhg3u5 <dholbach> http://tinyurl.com/yfnp53 <dholbach> those two might help <Ubugtu> New bug: #74022 in dovecot (main) "vpopmail support not compiled into dovecot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74022 <dholbach> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366346 looks like a good candidate <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 366346 in general "crash in Rhythmbox Music Player: loading music into the p..." [Critical,Needinfo] <dholbach> it has some duplicates already and it was asked for a debug backtrace <dholbach> the one in bug 66810 looks quite good <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 <dholbach> so it'd be good to follow up on the upstream bug with more information and link the two bugs <dholbach> (mention the malone url upstream and add a bugwatch for the upstream bug in malone) <dholbach> Cieffe: does that help? <dholbach> hey pradeep <pradeep> hello dholbach :) <Cieffe> dholbach: should i ask for rhythmbox -d anyway? only last X line or all the log? ( X=?) :) <dholbach> rhythmbox -d 2>log.txt <dholbach> if it crashes at startup it shouldn't be that long <Cieffe> dholbach: yes, i understand, i'm going to do and then you will check :) <Cieffe> thanls <Cieffe> *thanks <dholbach> de rien <dholbach> thanks for working on them * dholbach hugs Cieffe <pradeep> dholbach, quick question: What is the -dbg package for eog(Eye of Gnome)? <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: you speak french? <dholbach> pradeep: in which version of ubuntu? <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: seulement un peu :-) <Admiral_Chicago> moi aussie <dholbach> but seb128 always makes fun of me <Admiral_Chicago> so you speak three languages then? <pradeep> dholbach, edgy and feisty. I noticed a bug and i want to generate a trace. <dholbach> he said something along the lines of "did you translate that with babelfish? it makes no sense" <Admiral_Chicago> ah i tried to help out on the kubuntu forums in french <Admiral_Chicago> i remember that <dholbach> pradeep: enable pitti's repository (explained in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash) and it should be eog-dbgsym <dholbach> hey mvo <dholbach> i'm not good at french, and I tried to learn other languages as well, but didn't have enough people to talk to on a day-to-day basis, so I gave up again :) <mvo> hey dholbach! <Admiral_Chicago> well i studied it four years in school, but i don't practice ever <Admiral_Chicago> talk to raphael pinso <pradeep> thanks dholbach ! :) <Cieffe> moi aussi, j'ai etudie le francais a l'ecole :) <Cieffe> dholbach: done, can you check bug 66810 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 <Cieffe> there is only one, bug 63143, undecided for rhytmbox now :) <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63143 in rhythmbox "problems with rhythmbox and xubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63143 <Admiral_Chicago> je parle francais seulement quand je vuex parle avec mes amis en prive <Admiral_Chicago> i can't do accent marks... <Cieffe> Admiral_Chicago: me too <Cieffe> It's the only thing i can say, and I'm not sure it's right :P <Ubugtu> New bug: #74023 in Fedora (universe) "Xorg does not start in dom0 with i810 driver" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74023 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74024 in ubiquity (main) "Attempting to re-install Ubuntu 6.06 after a failed "upgrade" of Xubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74024 <seb128> dholbach is back to bug triage, waouh :) * seb128 hugs dholbach <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: your email wasn't translated by babelfish, a lot easier to understand :P <Ubugtu> New bug: #71770 in ubiquity (main) "Unable to install Ubuntu 6.06 in HP Pavillion dv1325" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71770 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71809 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed - "Install failed with exit code 1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71809 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73523 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73523 <Cieffe> seb128: i just see your comment <Cieffe> thanks <seb128> hi Cieffe <seb128> thank *you* for bug triaging ;) <Cieffe> I agree with you for bug 56557 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56557 in rhythmbox "Queued songs are shuffled when shutting down and restarting" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56557 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71633 in ubiquity (main) "Installed crashed, line 696 gtkui.py" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71633 <Cieffe> and also for bug 59703 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59703 in rhythmbox "Import freezes/rhythmbox doesn't exit properly if a wmv file is in the watched directory" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59703 <Cieffe> but it's ok to reject bug 33112? <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33112 in rhythmbox "[Dapper] Rhythmbox does not play mp3's" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33112 <seb128> Cieffe: it is, that's why I didn't change it ;) <seb128> Cieffe: good work! <Cieffe> i'm raising more problem than trying to help :) <Cieffe> it should be <Cieffe> i'm raising more problem than solution trying to help :) <DarkMageZ> maybe there is a better solution to 33112. back in the old days of windows, i think i recall a feature where if the media player couldn't play a file due to missing codecs. it would try and find the codec (always failed tho :P). maybe ubuntu's rhythmbox could advice the user that it found mp3 files during the scan and give them some advice? <Cieffe> seb128: and why you assigned this bug 61683 to ubuntu desktop if it was rejected? <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 <seb128> Cieffe: why did you unassign it? ;) <seb128> DarkMageZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCodecInstallation <Cieffe> DarkMageZ: as far as i know there is a spec already write for this <Cieffe> seb128: because if rejected it shouldn't be assigned <seb128> why not? <Cieffe> but of course i'm wrong :) <seb128> the team is still responsive for it <seb128> and if the submitter disagree and comment the team gets the mails for sure then <Cieffe> i think reject == not a bug => no one should resolve it => no one should have it assigned <Ubugtu> New bug: #74026 in libapt-front (main) "apt-index-watcher watch results in segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74026 <Admiral_Chicago> i don't suppose either of you gents know the license RSS uses? <seb128> rejected = not listed, not in the way <Cieffe> your last line is very clear :) <seb128> but still, if the submitter has extra comments somebody should read them <Cieffe> i understand <Cieffe> thanks <seb128> np <Ubugtu> New bug: #71940 in ubiquity (main) "I can't install my ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71940 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74027 in gutenprint (main) "WISHLIST: Upgrade gutenprint to the CVS version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74027 <dholbach> hehe Admiral_Chicago <dholbach> hey seb128 <seb128> dholbach: Alter! <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think the idea of RSS has a license <seb128> morning ;) <dholbach> Alter <Ubugtu> New bug: #74028 in scummvm (universe) "version 0.9.1 is already in Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74028 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71592 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71592 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71945 in Ubuntu "HP Laserjet 1020 gets detected but doesn't work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71945 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74029 in slocate (main) "updatedb scans /mnt (hence /mnt/hgfs) by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74029 <a7p> in #25226 someone complains about his CPU freqency not automatically beeing adjusted (in dapper). He changed some stuff and now it works like he wants it to - I've got absolutly no idea how to handle this bug. (personally I think it should be rejected, for cpu-scaling is handled diffently in edgy and with the feedback the user gives it is not possible to find a potential powernowd bug). <seb128> bug #25226 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 25226 in laptop-mode "laptop-mode does not twiddle CPU frequency" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/25226 <seb128> a7p: looks like a request to get the default config adapted then, he should not have to change the config to get it working <seb128> maybe confirming as a wishlist? <seb128> or reject if that's not revelant to edgy <seb128> I don't know enough about cpu-scaling to have a clear opinion about that one <a7p> seb128, It seem cpu scalling principially works for him ... normally powernowd does nothing else but setting the CPU-Frequency explicitly. And setting it manually seems to work for him ... <a7p> okay, I will reject it - since wishlisting is inadequat - fullfilling whould be a step back from where edgy is. <seb128> ok <Ubugtu> New bug: #74030 in firefox (main) "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74030 <dholbach> Cieffe: good work <seb128> pfiou <dholbach> seb128: hm? <seb128> I've cleaned most of the desktop-bugs crasher which were "Need Info" <seb128> I'm reaching saturation on reading them <seb128> time to do something else :p <dholbach> packaged new g-s-t <dholbach> + s-t-b + liboobs :) <seb128> 115 to 63 <dholbach> make the a11y team happy and package lsr <seb128> dholbach: you packaged the new gst? <dholbach> nope <dholbach> sorry s/packaged/package <dholbach> ! <dholbach> it was a suggestion to do something else <Ubugtu> New bug: #68881 in gnome-panel (main) "Crash when right clicking on the window-list applet" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68881 <Ubugtu> New bug: #69261 in gaim (main) "Crashes when recieved message" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69261 <Ubugtu> New bug: #69394 in gnome-panel (main) "[edgy] gnome-panel crash suddenly when i load a new window for firefox.." [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69394 <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: want to help me set up a planet? <seb128> dholbach: I didn't notice there was a new g-s-t, I would be happy to do the update :) <Admiral_Chicago> in reality i have one question really <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: I never did that <dholbach> seb128: enjoy <seb128> thank you <Admiral_Chicago> neither have I :( <seb128> I too the Need Info list matching crash from 115 to 61 <dholbach> seb128: what about the new evoluition? <seb128> good enough for a morning ;) <jonh_wendell> seb128, what do you mean with "i've cleaned"? marked all rejected? <seb128> dholbach: they are waiting in the freeze limb somewhere <seb128> dholbach: I've uploaded it yesterday <dholbach> cool <seb128> jonh_wendell: most of them <jonh_wendell> wow <seb128> reopened and reassigned some <dholbach> gnumeric is there also, but I'd like the xubuntu folks to do it <jonh_wendell> can i do that too? :) <dholbach> and I'll merge the new gthumb soon also <seb128> Need Info for over 1 month and no reply <seb128> jonh_wendell: sure, Need Info bugs without infos are not useful <seb128> they can be closed after a month <jonh_wendell> nice to know this! <seb128> I close them with a comment saying "feel free to reopen with the asked details if you still get the bug" <jonh_wendell> ok <jonh_wendell> seb128, can you give me an example? on of these you have closed <seb128> jonh_wendell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/69261 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69261 in gaim "Crashes when recieved message" [Medium,Rejected] <yamal> so basically if information is requested but not received timely, it's policy to close? <jonh_wendell> i guess we have a lot of bugs like that. some from breezy epoch <yamal> exactly, quite alot of these around, that's why I wondered whether I understood this correctly <seb128> jonh_wendell: probably yep <seb128> well <seb128> the gaim bug I pointed is an easy case <seb128> a bug with like 15 comments and a discussing is not always to close even if it's Needs Infoi <seb128> discussion <seb128> it might have enough informations to be useful already <seb128> and many of those bugs actually have a comment and can be reopened and triaged <seb128> dholbach: I was considering update the title too for bug #67361 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67361 in gaim "Gaim crashes after startup (strcmp) [NO MORE CRASH FILES NEEDED] " [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67361 <seb128> people don't like to read comments apparently ;) <dholbach> yeah <dholbach> i started doing that with a11y crashes last cycle already <geser> are bugs which got fixed in feisty set to "Fix Released"? <dholbach> yes <Ubugtu> New bug: #68846 in gmediaserver (universe) "Not possible to remove package" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68846 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74034 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Serial ports of some HP Laptops don't work in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74034 <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #72518 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72518 in Ubuntu "Include aiccu in multiverse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72518 <Admiral_Chicago> can someone set as wishlist? <Admiral_Chicago> i'll package it sometime this week if I can get around to it <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: done <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: thank you <Admiral_Chicago> i wish i was on QA, not enough experience though <Hobbsee> :) <Admiral_Chicago> karma = 19K iirc <Ubugtu> New bug: #74036 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Oops in scsi_mod and usbstorage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74036 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74037 in kdeadmin (main) "[feisty] kuser ui is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74037 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74038 in totem (main) "Crash while generating thumbnails in nautilus windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74038 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74039 in fityk (universe) "Fityk complains about mailcap entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74039 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74040 in initramfs-tools (main) "no longer includes mptspi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74040 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74042 in gdebi (main) "Include "uninstall" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74042 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74043 in pymol (universe) "Please sync pymol 0.98+0.99rc6-2 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74043 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74045 in adept (main) "WISHLIST: aptitude-like behaviour for Adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74045 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74047 in network-manager (main) "NM shouldn't depend on gnome-keyring" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74047 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74048 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "kernel BUG when inserting usb stick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74048 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74049 in gaim (main) "gaim-remote not installed, breaks aim: links in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74049 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74050 in tomboy (main) "tomboy in kubuntu (kde): the applet not visible in the main panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74050 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74051 in defoma (main) "Defoma fontconfig backend creates weird fonts.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74051 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74052 in pennmush (universe) "Missing game directory config files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74052 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74053 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[feisty] gaim-url-handler now deals with aim links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74053 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74054 in defoma (main) "Defoma fontconfig backend creates weird fonts.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74054 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74055 in gdm (main) "gdm default theme fails to follow Fitt's Law ("options" button)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74055 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74057 in update-manager (main) "update-manager with user's privileges and not with gksudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74057 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73528 in lastfm (universe) "Last.FM crashes for no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73528 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71954 in qdvdauthor (multiverse) "qdvdauthor can not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71954 <pointwood> hi, I reported a bug some time ago and I'm wondering whether I have posted enough info or there is more I can do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/71715 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71715 in Ubuntu "Thinkpad Z61T card reader doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] <Admiral_Chicago> pointwood: 15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device 8039 is the line <Admiral_Chicago> or 15:00.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments Unknown device 803b <Admiral_Chicago> have you tried firewire/ <Admiral_Chicago> it seems the hardware vendor's driver is malfunctiondng <pointwood> it is an internal card reader <pointwood> I didn't notice I had one until after some time :p <pointwood> when I found it I of course had to try it and it didn't work <pointwood> not a big deal, but hey :) <Admiral_Chicago> look at the bug report, the stuff that isn't working is a TI device driver <pointwood> yeah <Admiral_Chicago> sd card detected in socket 1 <Admiral_Chicago> seems to half work...hmm <Ubugtu> New bug: #74058 in yarssr (universe) "Google Atom feeds do not work in Yarssr " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74058 <Yawner> Howdy guys, can someone step in here, I am not too sure what to recommend.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/73784 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73784 in firefox "Firefox crash when closing tab" [Undecided,Needs info] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74059 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "ata2 timeouts, fails to boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74059 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74060 in acpi-support (main) "lenovo 3000 N100 touch pad doesn't work after resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74060 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74061 in mythtv (multiverse) "optimize_mythdb.pl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74061 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74062 in munin (universe) "[Sync Request] Sync munin (1.2.5-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74062 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74064 in Ubuntu "HP DeskJet 952C ignores color/grayscale settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74064 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73480 in kdepim (main) "Problems with manual in KHelpCenter" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73480 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74063 in hydrogen (universe) "went to load file, crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74063 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74065 in vmware-player (multiverse) "apt-get remove vmware-player doesn't remove vmware-player service" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74065 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74066 in gaim (main) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74066 <stgraber> just a small and really easy question, if a bug is reported about a non-free software that's even not in Multiverse (Opera for this case) do I have to reject the bug with an explicit comment ? or what can I do ? <ivoks> god question <ivoks> that's a package devlierd by canonical's repos <stgraber> yes, that's why I'm asking <ivoks> imho, you should reject it <ivoks> it's not part of ubuntu distribution <stgraber> ok --> rejected <Ubugtu> New bug: #74068 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed while switching exchange folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74068 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74069 in Ubuntu "razer USB mouse isn't recognized after system startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74069 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74070 in evolution (main) "Google Calendar ics support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74070 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74071 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Unexpected system hangups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74071 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73477 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Network cards do not work on nForce 590-SLI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73477 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74072 in vmware-player (multiverse) "installing vmware-player failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74072 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74073 in powermanga (universe) "[Merge] powermanga 0.80-dfsg-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74073 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74074 in Baltix "Support keyboard GABA Model KB-2925" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74074 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74075 in hotkey-setup (main) "Support keyboard GABA Model KB-2925" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74075 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73529 in Ubuntu "Doesn't install the connector." [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73529 <Ubugtu> New bug: #68844 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed (Ubuntu 6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68844 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74076 in Ubuntu "RiserFS partition not recognised as root partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74076 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74077 in udev (main) "iftab_helper return an already allocated devname on ppp with /etc/iftab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74077 <davmor2> bug 54966 someones is asking that the nvidia-glx package be split in two so that if your running kde you don't need to install gtk2 unless you want the nvidia-settings program isn't this a request for a change to defaults <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54966 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 "nvidia-glx boasts unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54966 <RichT> Hi, is keedcook here? <RichT> Sorry, keescook! <Ubugtu> New bug: #74078 in brasero (universe) "Brasero crashes deleting a dvd-rw" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74078 <keescook> ack. RichT/starbug/cmodyssey left too quick. :) <Ubugtu> New bug: #74079 in totem (main) "tried running a music video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74079 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74081 in jokosher (universe) "Crashed on attempting to select a section of the track" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74081 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74082 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "no more glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74082 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74083 in mozilla (universe) "Crash when printing HTML page with frames/iframes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74083 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74084 in gaim (main) "crash on switching off account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74084 <dfarning> quick question about bug triage. Should I worry about bugs in firefox 1.5 as shipped in dapper or should I work on 2.x and wait for someone to backpost 2.x to dapper <dfarning> s/backpost/backport/gc <davmor2> 2.x probably won't get backported to edgy <dfarning> do we then worry about issues in 1.5 for LTS <davmor2> yes look into them as it is still the default <dfarning> thanks <davmor2> dfarning: if there are fixes in 2.x you may want to just let them know that and to look out for it. <dfarning> how should the orginal bug in 1.5 be marked? <dfarning> 'fixrelease' if fixed in 2.0 but not 1.5? <Ubugtu> New bug: #74086 in openssh (main) "neither ~/.bash_profile nor ~/.bashrc are read for ssh login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74086 <davmor2> I went for "in progress" and then a short explanation saying what the fix is and it will be made available with "this particular release" <Ubugtu> New bug: #74087 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xserver-xgl crashed and xserver restarts after loading large PDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74087 <dfarning> davmor2: what if it looks like there will not be a fix in 1.5? most of the dev work is being done in 2.0. <davmor2> pass still new at this myself <dfarning> thanks, I'll ask ask again later when dh is on <davmor2> or sfllaw <sfllaw> dfarning: You called? <sfllaw> dfarning: We do have to worry about old Firefox bugs in Dapper, because it is LTS. <sfllaw> It is unlikely that bugs will be fixed there, but someone ought to pay attention to them. <sfllaw> Especially if there is a security bug. <Ubugtu> New bug: #74088 in oo2c (universe) "Please sync oo2c (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74088 <dfarning> hey sfllaw just read the transcript of your bug squad meeting <sfllaw> dfarning: Hello. <dfarning> nice job <sfllaw> dfarning: Thans. <dfarning> should just let bugs against 1.5 sit as confirmed in LP <dfarning> if they have been fixed in 2.0 <ailean> davmor2, i see you're here :D <ailean> i've sent a reply to the bug you rejected explaining my point of view. have you got that? <davmor2> hang on I'll check <ailean> davmor2, 55709 <davmor2> ailean: the report I sent you back is the default message for getting a change to a package default <ailean> i see <ailean> davmor2, what do you suggest i do then? An ISO standard shouldn't need discussion <davmor2> as the default is incorrect it does need to change. <ailean> yep. the problem is that it's not that important to most people :) <ailean> i appreciate you looking at it <davmor2> sfllaw who is the best group of people to get onto about this? <davmor2> would it motu? <crimsun> err, what? <ailean> changing the name of a language <ailean> Bug 55709 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 55709 in language-pack-gnome-en-base ""Scots Gaelic" should be "Scottish Gaelic"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55709 <crimsun> no, motu is not appropriate <crimsun> language-pack-gnome-en-base | 1:6.10+20061019 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources <sfllaw> davmor2: Is there an actual argument here? <ailean> sfllaw, no <sfllaw> ailean: OK. So ask the maintainer what he/she thinks. <sfllaw> I must go. <ailean> pitti then <davmor2> sfllaw no just confusion I put it down to needing a change to default which is agreed <crimsun> bye, sfllaw <ailean> seeya sfllaw <ailean> i'll email pitti <davmor2> bye <ailean> thanks for your help davmor2 <davmor2> okay ailean sorry I couldn't help more <ailean> i don't see what you could do :) <davmor2> :) <Ubugtu> New bug: #74089 in console-common (main) "[Sync Request] Sync console-common (0.7.68) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74089 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74090 in gnunet (universe) "Bug in gnunet dpkg configure script " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74090 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74091 in gnome-app-install (main) "Removing a package gives entirely wrong error message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74091 #ubuntu-bugs 2006-12-02 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74092 in openmsx (universe) "Please sync openmsx (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74092 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74093 in stardict (universe) "Impossible to change fonts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74093 <Ubugtu> New bug: #70752 in Ubuntu "unswappable pages are swapped out during hibernation" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70752 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71057 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash when opening a www page" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71057 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71087 in kdebase (main) "critical problem with .xsession-errors in Kubuntu Dapper: /home-partition full" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71087 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74094 in ipw2100 (multiverse) "Intel wifi ipw2100 card not working but recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74094 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74096 in njplot (universe) "Please sync njplot (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74096 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74097 in apt-file (universe) "apt-file update needs to be run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74097 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74098 in Ubuntu "mounting rootfile system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74098 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74099 in update-manager (main) "Strange dependancy error after upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74099 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74100 in solarwolf (universe) "[Sync Request] Sync solarwolf (1.5-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74100 <jrib> bug 2 <PriceChild> #2 <Burgwork> ubuntu bug #2 <Burgwork> hmm, ubugtu is having fun <PriceChild> lol <Ubugtu> New bug: #73501 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Gnome has no way to install fonts" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73501 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73486 in samba (main) "Ethernet very slow powerpc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73486 <Ubugtu> New bug: #73495 in bash (main) "Can't run some bourne shell scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73495 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74102 in iax (universe) "Crashes on Device open" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74102 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74103 in f-spot (main) "f-spot crashes when attempting to communicate with picasaweb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74103 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71676 in update-manager (main) "Auto-update asked re-wrote my Grub menu.lst and removed my Windows boot items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71676 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74104 in hardinfo (universe) "Hardinfo crash when execute Generate Report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74104 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74105 in apcalc (universe) "Please sync apcalc (156.14.161.142-1) from Debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74105 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74106 in ajaxterm (universe) "Please sync ajaxterm (0.9-2) from Debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74106 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74107 in gato (universe) "do not run (amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74107 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74108 in autopsy (universe) "Please sync autopsy (2.08-1) from Debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74108 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74109 in firefox (main) "?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74109 <somerville32> Crimsun: Can I get some advice? <crimsun> on? <somerville32> A bug <somerville32> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mousepad/+bug/56161 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56161 in mousepad "Segfault when saving files on AMD64" [Medium,In progress] <somerville32> I'm going to do an SRU <somerville32> And so I've backported the bug report to dapper <somerville32> This means it'll affect Ubuntu and Ubuntu (Dapper) <somerville32> Should I reject Ubuntu since the bug is fixed in Edgy? <crimsun> yes <crimsun> please also assign yourself to the Ubuntu (Dapper) task * somerville32 nods. <crimsun> either Jani or I will ACK it <crimsun> thanks for doing it! <somerville32> :) <somerville32> Well, thanks to you, I know how! :) <Ubugtu> New bug: #74110 in Ubuntu "serverX freezed on terminal #0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74110 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74111 in gnunet (universe) "enable ipv6 support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74111 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74112 in cenon.app (universe) "Please sync cenon.app (3.81-2) from Debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74112 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74113 in ubiquity (main) "install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74113 <somerville32> Crimsun: I'm having a hard time isolating the code for the fix. <somerville32> Could I just backport the whole package through a SRU? <crimsun> don't file an SRU as a backport request <crimsun> there's an entirely orthogonal procedure for the latter <somerville32> But could I get the SRU team to just "backport" the edgy package instead of trying to isolate a patch? <somerville32> Crimsun: But could I get the SRU team to just "backport" the edgy package instead of trying to isolate a patch? <crimsun> there is no main/restricted SRU team <crimsun> and the universe/multiverse SRU team doesn't "do SRUs"; we simply approve them <crimsun> it's up to another community member to take up the responsibility for the SRU <somerville32> Yes. <crimsun> if you want a backport from feisty, please follow the backport request procedure <somerville32> But I'd like for it to go through the SRU process since it meets that criteria <crimsun> ok, you can have one or the other, because resources are limited. <crimsun> if you want an SRU, follow the SRU procedure, and the source package goes into -proposed then -updates <crimsun> if you want a backport, follow the backport request procedure, and the source package goes into -backports <somerville32> I guess what I'm asking is, can I just take the Edgy package and push it through an SRU? <crimsun> if you want more thorough testing for a backport, then please take on the responsibility <crimsun> you can have one or the other, not both <crimsun> it's a main source package; you'll have to do the testing yourself, because there's no SRU team for main/restricted <somerville32> I don't think you're understanding what I'm asking :) <crimsun> you appear to want to take edgy's source package and push it into dapper-proposed, then dapper-updates <crimsun> that's not viable <crimsun> that's a backport and must follow backport policy <Ubugtu> New bug: #74114 in rhythmbox (main) "I am listening to music and Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74114 <crimsun> if you isolate the changes from edgy's source package and manually backport those changes to dapper's, you can use the SRU procedure <somerville32> So what do I do if I'm having trouble finding the patch? <somerville32> Ah <somerville32> Ok <somerville32> Thats what I meant :) <somerville32> Would they approve that? <crimsun> provided you ... provide (sorry) the requisite information and procedure, it's likely <somerville32> Would it be better if I only applied the diff for the revision that fixs the bug? <crimsun> that's an excellent approach for starters <crimsun> are you following the main/restricted SRU procedure? <somerville32> Well, I figured I might as well do the work for the package to get experience and make it easier for them to approve by actually having it to see <somerville32> Would you rather me get approval before I prepare the package? <crimsun> I normally combine steps 1 & 2 as much as possible to streamline the processing <crimsun> i.e., I file a bug report, compose an e-mail with all relevant info, debdiff, and diffstat attached, and CC: the bug # <Ubugtu> New bug: #74115 in fam (universe) "Please sync fam (2.7.0-11) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74115 <somerville32> I'm suppose to e-mail someone? <crimsun> no, you don't have to <Ubugtu> New bug: #74116 in firefox (main) "Very slow and jerky scroll renders browser useless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74116 <crimsun> you can simply subscribe ubuntu-sru as noted in the SRU procedure <crimsun> I just do it all at once for streamlining * somerville32 nods. <somerville32> Thats what I was thinking of doing. <Ubugtu> New bug: #74117 in gambit (universe) "Please sync gambit (0.2006.01.20-2) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74117 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74118 in gst-plugins-base0.10 (main) "[PATCH] doesn't pass audio data to libvisual 0.4.0 correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74118 <Ubugtu> New bug: #69190 in firefox (main) "crash after dragging hypertext link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69190 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74119 in metamail (universe) "metamail crashes often at boot (ubuntu edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74119 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74120 in amarok (main) "Orphaned files on iPod Nano" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74120 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74121 in nvu (universe) "Crash when i'm trying to set width of column in WYSIWYG" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74121 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74122 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "oops loading i82365 in installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74122 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74123 in xchat-gnome (main) "Feisty /list, no scroll, crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74123 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74124 in speedcrunch (main) "crash on iterative multiplications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74124 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74125 in libvisual-plugins (universe) "dfsg removed plugins > libvisual-plugins-multiverse?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74125 <Ubugtu> New bug: #71636 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "madwifi-ng is include but not the wlanconfig utility" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71636 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74126 in gkrellmapcupsd (universe) "gkrellmapcupsd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74126 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74127 in gaim (main) "report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74127 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74128 in Ubuntu "SATA causing issues with installer and kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74128 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74129 in procps (main) "/etc/sysctl.conf should ip_forward=1 for forwarding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74129 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74131 in coreutils (main) "cp crashes on large file copy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74131 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74133 in gtetrinet (universe) "[SRU] gtetrinet crashes on first startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74133 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74134 in apt (main) "Apt's unable to acquire lock message isn't user friendly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74134 <palski> what shuold be done with a bug which is fixed only by re-building a package? <Ubugtu> New bug: #74135 in runit (universe) "runsvdir not started at boot-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74135 <somerville32> Ask in #ubuntu-motu :] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74137 in Ubuntu "There should be an easy way to get a 1000 Hz system timer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74137 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74138 in gksu (main) "String "Starting Administrative application" non translatable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74138 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74139 in upstart (main) "/sbin/shutdown on Ubuntu 6.10: where did -F go ?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74139 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74140 in uim (universe) "uim crashes when entering Russian into terminals" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74140 <Ubugtu> New bug: #74141 in checkgmail (universe) "Error:500 Cant connect to www.google.com: 443 (bad hostname)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74141 <H3g3m0n> If I add a comment to a bug that is listed as needs info does it automatically get bumped or something so its likely to get looked at? <Ubugtu> New bug: #74142 in network-manager (main) "Dial Up Support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74142 <Hobbsee> H3g3m0n: possibly. more likely than if you dont add a useful bug comment. *bump* is useless <gnomefreak> H3g3m0n: yes we will receive an email <gnomefreak> H3g3m0n: what bug number? <H3g3m0n> Yeh i added info, just its a few months old and the original poster never replied <H3g3m0n> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/40422 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40422 in xorg "Dell 2405FPW and resolution 1920x1200" [Medium,Needs info] <Hobbsee> H3g3m0n: that using the proprietory nvidia driver? <H3g3m0n> Hobbsee: I am now, but it was using the default <Hobbsee> H3g3m0n: does the proprietory driver fix the problem? <H3g3m0n> The logs are from nvidia one though <gnomefreak> i just asked for a couple of files <H3g3m0n> Hobbsee: The resolutions are detected on install afaik, so problaly not by default <gnomefreak> H3g3m0n: more than likely nothing was happening because there wasnt enough info provided <H3g3m0n> gnomefreak: Do you want xorg files from the LiveCD files? My current system works fine because i changed the xorg.conf and installed the drivers <gnomefreak> the reporter didnt state what release/beta he was using <Hobbsee> H3g3m0n: for intel based graphics cards, on some of the dell machines you have to run 915resolution. as for the
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