#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-01
<douglasawh> Public Service Announcement: Don't Believe Anything You Read On The Internet Day has already begun on the other side of the world
<douglasawh> "chris_ Ã¤r nu kÃ¤nd som twopoint718"
<douglasawh> you guys just learned some Swedish.  I think everything I say that is the truth today I'll tag with #notaprilfools
<douglasawh> kinda like Simon Says
<h00k> douglasawh: AOL is buying Google
<douglasawh> see, that's not April Fools
<douglasawh> that's dyslexia
<h00k> totally legit
<douglasawh> Google is buying AOL
<h00k> okay, I lol'd on the Dyslexia
<douglasawh> http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-buying-5-of-aol-for-1-billion/2674/
<douglasawh> so, GOOG lost $999,999,999 on that deal?
<douglasawh> I'm out...for now
 * FireCrotch is now on Natty
<elisa87> hi
<elisa87> anyone from wisconsin?
<elisa87> I have been admitted to phd scottashley@example.org
<elisa87> want to know more about the city and wisc.edu environemnet
<nickmoeck> elisa87: everyone here is from wisconsin :)
<elisa87> from madison?
<elisa87> nickmoeck are you from madison?
<elisa87> I don't know how is ther city?
<nickmoeck> elisa87: Well, I'm not from Madison, but I've been there.  Nice city
<elisa87> is that a very good choice?
<elisa87> how about the climate?
<elisa87> which city are you from nickmoeck?
<nickmoeck> Well, it's Wisconsin.  Cold and snowy in the winter, hot and humid in the summer.
<nickmoeck> I'm from Milwaukee
<elisa87> :)
<elisa87> so we are going to be near your city in Fall 2011
<elisa87> :)
<elisa87> have you heard about wisc.edu?
<elisa87> how are the people at wisconsin?
<nickmoeck> It's a great school, but it's also a big party school
<nickmoeck> Though, considering that you're a Ph.D. student, I'll assume you're probably not too interested in the college party scene
<elisa87> big party school stands for what?:)
<elisa87> I'm so much into music dude:)
<elisa87> I love watching the newest clips from trip:)
<nickmoeck> lots of parties
<elisa87> May I know which states are Wisconsin neighbors?
<elisa87> lol
<nickmoeck> Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, and Michigan
<elisa87> woW great ,,,,such good neighbors
<elisa87> is life expensive out there considering some states like NY?
<nickmoeck> It's a lot less expensive than NY or California
<elisa87> good
<elisa87> what are the main hobbies in Wisconsin?
<nickmoeck> getting drunk :)
<elisa87> :))))
<elisa87> lol
<elisa87> is there any special place? like hollywood?
<elisa87> :))
<nickmoeck> Well, the two major cities are Milwaukee and Madison.  Pretty much everything important happens in one of those two cities
<elisa87> how about music bands like LP and coldplay and MUSE? do they have concerts in those two cities?
<nickmoeck> Usually in Milwaukee, yeah.  I don't think any of those particular bands have been here recently, though.
<nickmoeck> Fortunately, Milwaukee isn't too far from Chicago, which tends to be a more popular location for big bands such as those
<elisa87> how much does it take a person to go from milwaukee to madison?
<nickmoeck> It's about an hour and a half drive to get from Milwaukee to Madison
<nickmoeck> maybe a little less
<elisa87> I love chicago to be honest
<elisa87> but the university I have selected in Chicago is far from wisc.edu in ranking
<elisa87> its UIC
<nickmoeck> it's about a 3 hour drive from Madison to Chicago
<elisa87> how much does it cost to buy a car? a very normal one? not so lux
<nickmoeck> For a new car, you can get something for around $15,000
<nickmoeck> that would be the most basic, cheapest you can get
<elisa87> I think having a car is a must :)
<elisa87> especially that it's good to go to Chicago in the weekend:)
<nickmoeck> haha yeah, you'll definitely want to get a car
<nickmoeck> Since you mentioned that you're really into music, there's a huge music festival in Milwaukee every year called SummerFest
<nickmoeck> It's 14 days of music
<elisa87> woW
<elisa87> great
<elisa87> which bands usually come there?
<elisa87> I should add that I have decided to learn ballet:) as well...if I find any ballet class out there
<nickmoeck> Well, over the whole festival, there's over 700 bands
<elisa87> that festival sounds quite great
<elisa87> WoW.... !! How come...? 700 bands only in 14 days?!
<nickmoeck> a lot of them are local bands, but most of them are pretty good
<elisa87> could you name the most famous local band from milwaukee? maybe I know them
<elisa87> :)
<nickmoeck> There's usually 5 to 10 bands playing at the same time, on all different stages.  The festival is huge
<nickmoeck> http://www.summerfest.com
<nickmoeck> that website will tell you all the bands that are scheduled to play this year, so far.
<nickmoeck> There will be a lot more bands added the closer it gets to the festival
<elisa87> wow ..I am happy to know about their existence
<nickmoeck> Another great place to see some bands is The Rave, in milwaukee.  http://www.therave.com
<elisa87> thx for the info
<elisa87> but what about the people?
<elisa87> how are they?
<elisa87> warm or not? let's be honest plz
<nickmoeck> people around here are generally pretty nice
<elisa87> good:) The university is around the lake as I saw in pics...it's good:)
<nickmoeck> Well, I should be getting to sleep, it's getting late.
<nickmoeck> It was nice meeting you :)
<elisa87> what are the other languages spoken out there ?
<elisa87> ok
<elisa87> thx buddy
<elisa87> I am grateful for your information and help
<nickmoeck> Languages... just English really
<elisa87> wished if they could speak italian and french as well:D
<nickmoeck> Yeah, unfortunately, there aren't a lot of people who speak other languages - but you might find some at school
<elisa87> :)
<elisa87> in NY the second language is Spanish as I know
<elisa87> :D
<nickmoeck> There are some areas in Milwaukee where mostly everyone speaks Spanish, but they're not very good areas to go to. Lots of crime
<elisa87> :))))
<elisa87> it was good to know that
<elisa87> btw is the madison itself safe enough for a girl?
<elisa87> as I am coming on my own to madison!
<nickmoeck> Madison is pretty safe, yes
<nickmoeck> Well, now its definitely time for me to go to bed :) Goodnight
<h00k> Greetings!
<Favrenation> hey
<Favrenation> is it true that ubuntu is going to not be free anymore?
<h00k> Favrenation: What day is today?
<Favrenation> Friday?
<Favrenation> right?
<Favrenation> why?
<h00k> Favrenation: what's the date?
<Favrenation> Fuck
<Favrenation> Im retartded
<Favrenation> lmao
<Favrenation> you fucking freaked me out for second
<h00k> Favrenation: I'll ignore the !language on that, but *score* one for me!
<h00k> No worries. Nothing's changing
<Favrenation> when you asked for the date i looked up at ubuntu date thing and almost wrote that down lol
<h00k> :D
<h00k> Favrenation: thanks for being a good sport ;)
<Favrenation> np
<h00k> douglasawh:D Nice
<Favrenation> yeah
<Favrenation> well i beleived it douglas!
<h00k> I'll send a clarifying email tomorrow
<h00k> but I can't today.
<Favrenation> what are the other mailing lists that I should sign up for btw?
<Favrenation> i forgot to sign up for those when I was here a few days ago
<h00k> Hmmm, what else are you interested in?
<Favrenation> well one of you guys sent me a link to a webpage for some appleton metting
<Favrenation> meeting*
<Favrenation> im interested in computers in general
<h00k> Favrenation: http://wisconsinlinux.org/index.php/Wisconsin_Linux_Users that one, perhaps?
<Favrenation> that was one
<Favrenation> there was another with a video of people at somekind of meeting
<mikeputnam> Favrenation: http://dhmn.net
<Favrenation> yeah
<Favrenation> there was another one like that that meets in Appleton though
<mikeputnam> http://newlug.org
<Favrenation> thats it
<Favrenation> thanks
<mikeputnam> even http://mydigitechician.blogspot.com
<Favrenation> says the blod doesn't exist
<mikeputnam> oopsy  i misstyped the first one    http://mydigitechnician.blogspot.com/
<mikeputnam> newlug is linux/open source in general
<mikeputnam> mydigitechnician(NEWNET) is a weekly general technology conversation
<Favrenation> looks way out of my leaugue
<mikeputnam> nah.  it's just words.
<mikeputnam> going over the weeks news in technology and talking about it
<mikeputnam> not too ominous
<mikeputnam> usually interesting
<Favrenation> i mean that im just a high school student that barely knows how to use html/java
<Favrenation> i just use linux as my main distro
<mikeputnam> i recommend going anyway. you'll pick up some knowledge and people are helpful/nice about beginners
<Favrenation> at newlug or the other one?
<mikeputnam> any/all of them :)
<Favrenation> lol i work at toms
<mikeputnam> well there you go!
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-02
<douglasawh> any questions about Linux in Africa during the presentation_
<douglasawh> meh, keyboard back to Swedish there for some reason...probably KDE in GNOME
<douglasawh> ok, we moved on to emacs
<douglasawh> we're videoing, so you'll see responses later if you want
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-03
<douglasawh> uploading video is such a pain!
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-05
<dwhitfie> sorry for the logoffs. Natty is being douchey
<twopoint718> douglasawh: that's okay
<elisa87> hi
<elisa87> how much is the house rental in wisconsin madison per month(or per year)?
<twopoint718> elisa87: it looks like they've answered in #wilug :)
<elisa87> yeah
<elisa87> thx twopoint718
<elisa87> it's a good room
<elisa87> i like the ppl at wisc
<elisa87> they are warm
<elisa87> anyone from wisc?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-06
<douglasawh> elisa87 what do you mean from wisc?
<lostson> ok then
<elisa87> hi
<elisa87> what were the other channels for wisc and madison?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-07
<h00k> Greetings.
<lostson> no loitering!
<shaggins> bots are rather boring. What happened to the so-called friendly Wisconsinites?
<lostson> its been nice outside so everyone is outside
<nickmoeck> it's Wednesday, so we're not drunk yet
<nickmoeck> Maybe by tomorrow
<shaggins> wasted wednesdays
<lostson> i thought it was thirsty thursdays ?
<lostson> guess i need to catch up time to put some vodka in me coffee
<mikeputnam> hmm
<mikeputnam> vodka pepsi's are ok
<mikeputnam> not sure about coffee though
<mikeputnam> whatever gets the job done i supp[ose
<shaggins> baileys in the coffee for irish coffee is delicious
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-12
<h00k> HI
<h00k> New computer, AWESOME.
<spikeb> HI
<h00k> yo
<mikeputnam> h00k: jealous
<mikeputnam> i walked my neighbor through dropping $1000 on a new desktop yesterday
 * mikeputnam got none 
<mikeputnam> QQ
<h00k> mikeputnam: nice, and whaaat :(
<h00k> I should post my specs on my blogz
<douglasawh> elisa87: I never got an explanation of what you meant from "ppl at wisc". Do you mean people that go to UW? Do you mean people from the state of Wisconsin? I'm asking based on what you said on the 5th and 6th.
<douglasawh> the question may have been answered, it's just not in my logs
<douglasawh> anyway, madlug needs a May presenter. Anyone willing?
<mikeputnam> maybe NEWLUG/MADLUG/MLUG should figure out a road-trip
<mikeputnam> shaggins: welcome
<shaggins> hey
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-15
<h00k> oi.
<h00k> I invite everyone to check out the mailing list post regarding Mr. Jones (lostson) and how they can help
<mikeputnam> h00k: yipes! who lost house!? not lostson was it>?
<mikeputnam> oh wow
<h00k> mikeputnam: yes
<h00k> :/
<h00k> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-wi/2011-April/000279.html
<mikeputnam> major bunnage
<mikeputnam> er
<mikeputnam> bummage
<h00k> totaly.
<h00k> *totally
<h00k> I'm glad he and his family are okay
<mikeputnam> i'm in Appleton. is there anything i can do?
<mikeputnam> like help out in person
<h00k> I haven't been able to talk to him much, I don't know - I imagine there might be
<h00k> I asked if I could send out an email if people want to donate anything for him/his family, I don't have a list or anything
<h00k> but I have an address of where to send things
<h00k> It's just been limited DM's on twitter
<h00k> I thought about sending a few toys or something for his daughter
<h00k> Pretty sure I'm going to
<h00k> Some people at work here are going to make a list
<h00k> Cool.
<h00k> I asked him to give me a call and leave me a voicemail of what he needs
<h00k> mikeputnam: when I find out, I'll let you know
<h00k> mikeputnam: unless you get a hold of him sooner, let me know ;)
<mikeputnam> cool
<mikeputnam> i've got three kids to wrangle tomorrow so i may or may not be able to be very helpful depending on what needs to be done
<h00k> Yeah, I'm driving to Point tomorrow & flying to Oklahoma Sunday through Thursday for work
<h00k> I have a box of stuff from a guy from work already
<h00k> Shipped the box
<h00k> http://i.imgur.com/LECJy.jpg
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-16
<spikeb> oh good :)
<Guest1192> At the MadLUG/Ubuntu Hour meeting!
<spikeb> cool
<twopoint718> spikeb: Any questions for the group?
<spikeb> not off the top of my head
<twopoint718> douglasawh: hey there
<douglasawh> twopoint718: sup
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-17
<nickmoeck> Oh my ____, I hate Windows
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-20
<ripps> I have a dilema: intel i3 2100 or amd athlon x4.
<ripps> sandybridge with 2 cores vs. athlon with 4. Sandybridge is suppose to have awesome performance, but does it trump an extra 2 cores
<ripps> I've looked at some comparison benchmarks, but it they seem pretty comparable, except each one does better a certain operation than the other.
<mikeputnam> ripps: intel i7!
<KBme> well, i'd guess it depends on how parallelisable is what you'r doing
<KBme> you're
<KBme> if it can be parallelised easily more cores will help more
<mikeputnam> so do "cores" present themselves as disticnt cpus to the os?
<mikeputnam> s/disticnt/distinct/
<spikeb> yes
<mikeputnam> ah
<mikeputnam> so a dual processor with dual cores would appear to have 4 cpus
<mikeputnam> got it
<KBme> also intel Hyper Threading makes cores show up as two cores
<mikeputnam> as a non-os programmer, i wonder how linux itself uses or does not use parallelism with regard to cpus
<mikeputnam> KBme: i see.  didn't realize that either
<KBme> how it uses?
<KBme> it has a scheduler to map OS level threads to cores
<mikeputnam> so in my earlier example the 2 proc dual core may look like 8 cpus?
<KBme> if it has hyper threading yes, each core shows up as two cpus
<mikeputnam> crazy
<KBme> what i understood about hyper threading is that if the process runs into a bottleneck it can be rescheduled and an other process can take over
<KBme> but don't take my word on that one, we're getting on the murky water of CPU design
<mikeputnam> heh
<mikeputnam> so even if an application isn't designed for parallelism, it probably would benefit in someways with the os balancing it's own threads across cpus
<KBme> well
<KBme> the whole system still benefits for it
<mikeputnam> right
<KBme> your application won't
<mikeputnam> so indirectly in my example themn
<mikeputnam> *then
<mikeputnam> ah
<KBme> yeah
<KBme> well, since it can fully use one core and the "other stuff" can be mapped to other cores
<mikeputnam> so generally speaking without actively designing for parallelism, your app exists as a single thread (pid?)
<KBme> it will get more cpu time than if the whole system is on the same core
<mikeputnam> right
<KBme> well, that depends too
<KBme> you can thread your program and still not be parallel
<mikeputnam> overall timeshare, but the os isn't going to magically separate out chunks of your app to leverage idle cpu cycles
<KBme> look up for example the difference between concurrency and parallelism
<KBme> no, it won't âº
<KBme> though the haskell people are working on that :D
<mikeputnam> it's interesting to think about concurrency and parallelism out of the context of computing
<mikeputnam> like a manufacturing business for example
<mikeputnam> get more orders -> get more people -> do more work
<KBme> yeah
<KBme> io bottleneck: an unfinished highway
<mikeputnam> heh
<KBme> mikeputnam, dhmn looks interesting :P
<mikeputnam> or even open source software development. i believe human brains are basically single threaded. but get 15 people...   :)
<mikeputnam> KBme: it is. clever people doing fun and interesting stuff
<mikeputnam> KBme: join the mailing list.  lots of neat stuff goes by
<KBme> mikeputnam, you are very wrong about the human brain
<mikeputnam> yes i suppose. there's a lot going on: keep my breathing, seeing, hearing, fight or flight, etc etc
<KBme> yep
<KBme> also, if you're really interested, search for "Google Workshop on Quantum Biology" in youtube, pretty mind-boggling talks
<mikeputnam> i guess i was referring to the voluntary thought->action process
<KBme> that "counscious" part...hmm yeah, maybe
<KBme> i wouldn't be sure, tho, even
<mikeputnam> at least i know i can't write 3 programs in parallel
<KBme> heh
<KBme> mikeputnam, i'm in france for now âº
<mikeputnam> neat. seek out "hackerspace"s near your locality. you'll be glad you did.
<mikeputnam> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/France
<KBme> there seem to be non where I am..
<mikeputnam> :/
<mikeputnam> start one?
<mikeputnam> :)
<KBme> so, what is it?
<KBme> hmmm
<KBme> i guess i'll just rtfm ;)
<KBme> mikeputnam, we're kind of starting one
<mikeputnam> great!
<mikeputnam> sort of a community workshop
<KBme> for hackers
<KBme> yeah
<mikeputnam> like a health club membership, but for your brain
<KBme> so what do you program, mikeputnam?
<mikeputnam> computer people, metalworking people, woodworking people, crafty people, electronics people, art people, etc, etc
<mikeputnam> i work on an Oracle/PeopleSoft ERP app
<KBme> âº
<KBme> ugg (oracle;)
<mikeputnam> yeah
<KBme> they do usually pay well tho
<KBme> well, ogtta get back to hacking on my couchapp laterz
<mikeputnam> enjoy
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-21
<douglasawh-work> do any of you have an HP 6400 by chance?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-22
<lostson> yo
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-28
<douglasawh-work> does anyone know what software Ubuntu uses to collect user statistics?  I'd like to set up such a server internally if possible
<spikeb> hmm that's a very interesting question.
<spikeb> i know debian uses popcon
<douglasawh-work> sweet, I will check it out
<douglasawh-work> spikeb: do you know if it just does packages.  It'd be cool to get some sort of click information, like Applications or Places, etc.
<douglasawh-work> We are thinking of changing things to the mintmenu internally, but it'd be good to know if that's the best way to go
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-29
<mikeputnam> morning
<mikeputnam> so is 11.04 an LTS release?
<nickmoeck> mikeputnam: No, 11.04 is not an LTS. The next LTS will be 12.04, I believe
<mikeputnam> thx
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-04-30
<jesu> Hi all, I want to do a performance study of the  VMware, virtual box and KVM. Do you think the kernel compile time gives a good estimate?
<spikeb> you'd probably want to do at least two different kinds of tests: one that tested the processor and one that tested the graphics.
<jesu> spikeb : yes, basically I want to compare them in terms of io performance, network performance, cpu uage etc.
<spikeb> a kernel compile would be good for testing out the cpu. not really all that aware of benchmarks to run in general, though. unless you wanted to use a benchmarking app
<jesu> yes, i think i have to find a regular benchmark app for testing an OS, but i am not sure if it will be accurate for a virtual machine
<spikeb> if run inside the VM, it should give you a decent idea
<jesu> yes, i guess you are right, i need to find a benchamrk app
<spikeb> the only one i know of offhand is the phoronix test suite. http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/
<spikeb> at least on 11.04, its available from the repos
<jesu> cool! I ll try that out. Thanks for that!
<spikeb> no problem
<spikeb> glad somebody finally asked a question i could answer today :)
#ubuntu-us-wi 2012-04-01
<DavidLevin> oot123
#ubuntu-us-wi 2012-04-04
<twopoint718> Just wanted to drop in and pester about the MadLUG meeting this Saturday!
<twopoint718> It is called "Let's Talk About Shells" or shell lightning talks (5-min presentations)
<twopoint718> http://www.meetup.com/madlug/events/57860972/
#ubuntu-us-wi 2016-04-24
<timlinux13> whois timlinux13
#ubuntu-us-wi 2016-04-30
<BlooperBoy> hi :)

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