#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-02
<kwadroke> just got the email r2d2rogers, need something here too
<kwadroke> if you're on NWALUG's list, might want to post there as well
<kwadroke> I see you sent it on krakrjak
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-03
<r2d2rogers> kwadroke: cool, I am not on that list
<r2d2rogers> krakrjak: thanks for the relay,
<r2d2rogers> Public Google hangout for Chat night https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> Hey zillah, you up for the google hangout?
<zillah> yeah, in a few minutes
<r2d2rogers> cool
<r2d2rogers> Public Google hangout for Chat night https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<zillah> ok, i'll be there in a just a minute
<kwadroke> Public Google hangout for Chat night https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<kwadroke> Hey TommyT, we've got a Google Hangout going
<kwadroke> https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<TommyT> I saw that, but it says I'm not invited to Google+
<kwadroke> Need an Invite?
<TommyT> OK williamsmith@example.net
<r2d2rogers> Public Google hangout for Chat night https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> sorry kwadroke will get ya the invite
<kwadroke> sent
<TommyT> I think this netbook may be too underpowered for this
<kwadroke> unstandable
<TommyT> the performance is terrible.... I'll try it again with beefier hardware. seeya!
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-04
<zillah> hey all
<krakrjak> hey what's up?
<zillah> trying to fix my ubuntu server lol
<zillah> i'm having issues with iptables and can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
<krakrjak> pastebin it up
<krakrjak> sorry got distracted by iscsi again.
<zillah> i'm not sure what to paste
<zillah> i think i may have it if i can figure out how to paste into vi on ubuntu from putty on windows that i'm logged into from a Mac
<zillah> haha, i got it
<zillah> well, i was able to paste...i still haven't fixed my problem...i can't ssh into the server from outside the network
<zillah> i added:
<zillah> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
<zillah> to /etc/rc.local
<zillah> and ran both from a shell, but i still get a time-out when i try to connect
<krakrjak> what's the other one?
<krakrjak> I see the harmless rule.
<krakrjak> you've stumped me.  have any console access?
<krakrjak> ok...  so can you see port 22 filtered on the host using nmap -P0 -p 22 <host>?
<zillah> i can get in by using terminal services to a Windows server then putty from there
<krakrjak> right, but from outside the network can you see the host at all?
<krakrjak> just no ssh after using -A INPUT?
<krakrjak> you might want the rule higher in the list.
<zillah> yeah i'm not sure what nmap says though...i don't have any boxes with it here
<zillah> i think i can put it on the mac real quick
<krakrjak> ok so check the iptables -L INPUT and see if there's a block all before the specific ACCEPT
<zillah> ok
<zillah> here is my /etc/rc.local
<zillah> http://pastebin.com/kH9X9a3X
<zillah> all of the port forwards work
<zillah> yeah, they are at the bottom
<krakrjak> hrm..  I think the OUTPUT rule is bad.  I think I'd just set -P OUTPUT ACCEPT at the top.
<krakrjak> I don't know why this isn't working though...  seems like it should.
<zillah> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ssh
<zillah> oops, didn't mean to paste that
<krakrjak> http://pastebin.com/QBTXpbCN
<zillah> http://pastebin.com/4cu1A3MN
<krakrjak> Yeah that looks good.
<zillah> there is the INPUT chain
<krakrjak> ok let's see here.
<krakrjak> OUTPUT have any hints...  I think 23 should be higher.  I don't think anything makes it past #14
<zillah> http://pastebin.com/1GgCYe2b
<krakrjak> #17 and #18 are not needed.
<krakrjak> What is managing your firewall besides rc.local?
<krakrjak> There's a lot of rules in there for the small bit of iptables in the rc.local.  Like the DROP policy on INPUT for example.
<zillah> that's what i was wondering
<krakrjak> ufs?
<krakrjak> ufw?
<zillah> maybe these don't need to go in rc.local
<krakrjak> I think you can leave the forwards there if you want :)
<zillah> root@ubuntu:/home/mitchell# service ufw status
<krakrjak> just need to find the other program fiddling with the firewall.
<krakrjak> 11.04?
<zillah> no older...i can't remember what to cat to find it
<krakrjak> hrm...  what's in /etc/init.d
<krakrjak> any of those sound like firewall programs?
<zillah> not any that i recognize
<zillah> ufw is in there but says it isn't running
<zillah> oh...firestarter is in there
<krakrjak> hrm...  that sounds likely
<zillah> it's running
<zillah> isn't firestarter a GUI tool?
<krakrjak> yeah, but I guess you can use it from the command line...
<krakrjak> it can be used as a daemon and just managed as files from the ubuntu page I found.
<krakrjak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter
<krakrjak> You can try just turning it off invoke-rc.d firestarter stop and see what the new rules look like then run your rc.local again.
<krakrjak> if you're fixed just uninstall firestarter
<zillah> i'm gonna try it
<zillah> yay!!!!
<zillah> it works!
<zillah> that is soooo much better
<zillah> haha, now my eggdrop is open to the outside, not sure i like that
<zillah> but now I now how to fix it  :)
<zillah> thanks for the help
<krakrjak> anytime
<zillah> lol now i can't get irssi to compile on it or install via apt
<krakrjak> ack!
<zillah> i need to upgrade this box, but when i do it breaks vmware
<zillah> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.04"
<zillah> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.04"
<krakrjak> dang, going way back in Ubuntu terms.
<krakrjak> it's only one Debian back though :)
<zillah> lol this box is just a little over two years old
<krakrjak> this box is much older, but the OS is newer.
<zillah> i've resisted upgrade/reinstall because of vmware...i have a free license for vmware infrastructure and it seems like you can't get that anymore
<zillah> and if i re-install vmware it will have to reactivate the license or whatever
<zillah> and the virtual machine on it is my PDC for my Windows domain
<zillah> hey TommyT
<TommyT> howdy
<zillah> how are you tonight?>
<TommyT> doing OK... trying to do six things at once, though. I forgot I had irc open on this netbook
<zillah> lol i know how that goes
<TommyT> were you in on the Google+ meeting last night?
<zillah> yeah, i'm Mitchell
<TommyT> Ah... I don't know everyone. Maybe I will learn names better if I use the Google+ thing
<TommyT> I did get my sound going
<zillah> what did you have to do?
<TommyT> The workaround for this model on 11.04 is run pavucontrol then run the LEFT mic volume to zero
<TommyT> I don't know why
<TommyT> This is an Acer Aspire D260
<TommyT> Wal-mart special
<zillah> heh, well at least it works
<TommyT> The stock control re-locks the volume controls together
<TommyT> If I was smart enough to understand what was going on there's probably a config file to fix it for good
<zillah> oh, you have to change it after every re-boot?
<TommyT> the place I read it says it pops back easily, but so far it has persisted
<TommyT> I think various applications mess with it and make it stop working
<TommyT> Skype is one that was mentioned
<TommyT> I'm getting the "time for bed" message from the other room...
<zillah> ah
<zillah> lol
<TommyT> I'll try to have proper hardware for the next Google+ thing
<zillah> i'm hoping to be on linux instead of mac next time
<TommyT> whatever works... I may have to move to the Mac if I can't get things working otherwise. This netbook is ALMOST too underpowered
<TommyT> We have a Mac Mini that can probably handle it though
<TommyT> But we don't keep a camera on it
<zillah> I miss my Mini, i sold it when i got my macbook pro
<zillah> i got an iSight but the audio wouldn't work on Snow Leopard, but it would on older MacOS
<TommyT> THat's weird. Is it the old old firewire iSight?
<TommyT> I have a generic Logitech that works fine
<zillah> yeah, it was the old old firewire i think
<TommyT> if it says Plug & Play in Windows XP, it will generally work on linux, and many Mac apps work fine with them too.
<zillah> yeah, i had a logitech working using Macam
<zillah> framerate was horrible though
<TommyT> I don't do video much... but the Google+ was impressive especially for a "free" service
<TommyT> I was shopping around for a conference service awhile back and that did fine
<zillah> yeah, same here.  I've  played with FaceTime a little, but hasn't been that useful yet
<zillah> i was impressed with Google+
<TommyT> So as the article they linked to said, I think for Google+ the hangouts (is that what it's called?) will be the killer app
<TommyT> I haven't done the circle stuff much yet
<zillah> yeah
<zillah> you mean as far as making new circles, or just putting people into them?
<TommyT> putting people in...somewhere here I had an article with the 15 people you should follow with Google+ so I added some "celebrity" stuff
<TommyT> BUT
<TommyT> the article listed Newt Gingrich as someone worth following... but he got called out for having like 80+% fake followers on twitter
<zillah> lol
<TommyT> I have used FaceBook for awhile but so far few people I have known for a long time are on Google+
<TommyT> It wouldn't even let ME in until Tony sent me the invite
<TommyT> and _I_ thought Google loved me
<TommyT> they even sent me a shirt
<zillah> LOL
<TommyT> (I was a paid Blogger user and they sent a nice shirt to people when they made it free)
<TommyT> but what have I done for them lately?
<zillah> i'm not sure how i got signed up
<zillah> i think i just logged into gmail one day and it was there
<TommyT> That's what _I_ expected to happen... that's how lots of stuff has been with them for me
<TommyT> sites, voice, etc.
<TommyT> I have the phone number, several sites, even domains they manage
<TommyT> host, I mean
<TommyT> But I guess I'm not social enough or something
<zillah> everything i have i had somewhere else before google bought it
<zillah> like grandcentral and picasa
<zillah> lol
<TommyT> OH and I have an Android phone. Surely that counts for something. Yeah I had GrandCentral.
<zillah> i'm thinking about switching to Android
<TommyT> I used Flickr instead of Picasa, though
<TommyT> Android has been OK but it has amazingly rough edges
<TommyT> I have a Verizon Motorola Droid2, and the stuff you have to do to make it acceptable is a pain
<zillah> i have a chinese tablet running 2.2
<zillah> it's ok for what it is, but i can only use the amazon market
<TommyT> That's odd... I tried the Amazon market and it didn't manage the apps as well as the Android one
<TommyT> But maybe I didn't give it a chance
<TommyT> I noticed everything I wanted was in both places and sometimes cheaper (free) on Android
<zillah> yeah thats what i've heard
<TommyT> well maybe that is the signal to go to bed. the trackpad just put me into Facebook chat
<TommyT> and I sent a message to an old friend of mine who is offline
<TommyT> so I told her "oops"
<zillah> lol
<zillah> take care man
<zillah> ttyl
<TommyT> bye
<zillah> yay, i finally got irsii compiled
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-10
<r2d2rogers> https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> Hangout session open, starting at 9:30pm
<r2d2rogers> howdy
<r2d2rogers> ?
<zillah> hey
<zillah> i'll be on the hangout in a bit
<r2d2rogers> Cool
<r2d2rogers> kwadroke made it in
<kwadroke> anyone else?
<zillah> doubleb will probably join i think
<r2d2rogers> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/b7521c4a47e8e776191a18e303dc4b87b6315b82?authuser=0&hl=en-US#
<zillah> i can't connect to the hangout
<zillah> :|
<r2d2rogers> public link or the one I just posted?
<r2d2rogers> https://plus.google.com/113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> try that route
<zillah> still not working
<az7> ah, sorry i can't make the hangout this week
<r2d2rogers> trying to figure it out
<zillah> it tells me it can't install the plug-in
<r2d2rogers> on linux?
<r2d2rogers> or max again?
<r2d2rogers> mac?...
<zillah> mac
<r2d2rogers> I was able to rejoin it
<zillah> the same computer that i was using last week
<r2d2rogers> weird
<zillah> i'll try safari instead of chrome
<r2d2rogers> cool
<zillah> i'm getting the same message with safari
<zillah> it says Type about:plugins in your Chrome browser and check to make sure the Apps Enhancements Plugin and O3D Plugin are enabled. If you are using another browser you should check to make sure that those plug-ins are enabled.
<zillah> i don't even have those plugins
<zillah> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=01c9e9cd27c3f0dc&hl=en
<r2d2rogers> geee
<r2d2rogers> seems like it just wasn't wanting to happen tonight
<r2d2rogers> Time for me to head to bed I think
<zillah> i can't start my own hangout either
<zillah> stupid mac
<zillah> good night   :)
<r2d2rogers> guess we can try again next week
<r2d2rogers> G'night
<zillah> ttyl
<kwadroke> later
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-14
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#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-17
<r2d2rogers> hello folks
<r2d2rogers> little late here
<r2d2rogers> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/cce1890c6b521bd2fc2538ad1d2730da90569128?authuser=0&hl=en-US#
<r2d2rogers> does that work?
<kwadroke> don't have a camera tonight
<r2d2rogers> howdy Ahmuck
<Ahmuck> evening
<r2d2rogers> you up for a Google+ hangout?
<Ahmuck> nope
<r2d2rogers> kk
<Ahmuck> u know how i feel about google :)
<r2d2rogers> trying to finish my setup here
<r2d2rogers> Right
<Ahmuck> recently i noticed logs from this channel publicly posted as well
<r2d2rogers> sorry I remembered that just after I asked...
<r2d2rogers> Yeah
<r2d2rogers> that's an Ubuntu loco team policy
<r2d2rogers> but I'm not sure about the bot that's doing it
<Ahmuck> heh, that might be why ubuntu-us-ks isn't accepted as a loco
<r2d2rogers> 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abnods33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab
<r2d2rogers> I know that I haven't been a member of an *accepted* team ;)
<Ahmuck> that was the one thing i chose not to allow ubuntu-us-ks to allow, public logs
<kwadroke> why not, Ahmuck?
<r2d2rogers> We'll see if we get more traffic in here tonight as I posted the link earlier in the day on the CARLUG discuss list
<Ahmuck> what's the purpose?
<Ahmuck> kwadroke:
<kwadroke> for people that miss the chats
<Ahmuck> tuesday night chats?
<Ahmuck> i'd assume the chanop would have logs
<r2d2rogers> You would prefer the logs to not be avilable publicly?
<Ahmuck> myself, yes
<r2d2rogers> I guess it comes down to purpose...
<Ahmuck> there is a reasonable expectation of privacy in loco rooms.  in ubuntu, i'd agree, there isn't any expectation of privacy, but the loco's are so local one might consider it a small group in a meeting room
<r2d2rogers> I can see that, but also I consider the purpose of the loco to be visible and grow in an open manner
<r2d2rogers> then again, this or the other team I have participated with haven't been very active for a while
<Ahmuck> unfortunately, i'm working my way out of the AR loco.  i've had two poor experiences already
<r2d2rogers> I'm sorry to hear that
<r2d2rogers> I haven't really been in touch with any organized effort before kwadroke and I started the chat night idea
<r2d2rogers> I know that bad encounters tend to sour me on wanting to spend my time where I don't feel comfortable
<QuinDevelin> odd linguistic question... can you define 'loco' in this context?
<r2d2rogers> Local Community
<QuinDevelin> oooo....nifty...thanks
<r2d2rogers> refering to the Ubuntu Local Community Teams
<r2d2rogers> groups trying to promote Ubuntu Specifically and Open Source in General
<r2d2rogers> this was just a handy channel for me to reference
<r2d2rogers> and fit well with my desire to get a state wide dialog going
<QuinDevelin> i thought you were calling it 'crazy' :D
<r2d2rogers> <G>
<r2d2rogers> yeah I thought about that more when it was new to me too
<r2d2rogers> the LoCo stuff doesn't have to be associated with the effort I'm interested in promoting, but it was a convinent resource
<r2d2rogers> https://plus.google.com/welcome#113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> QuinDevelin: if you want to try the Google+ hangout part I was posting about on the mailing list...
<r2d2rogers> the blue "Join this hangout" button should get you there,
<QuinDevelin> hrm... is it connected to this chatroom?
<r2d2rogers> but this channel is a good way to talk to people who don't care for google, or don't have a webcam and microphone setup handy.
<r2d2rogers> only in that I talked about both in the email I setup
<r2d2rogers> s/setup/sent/
<r2d2rogers> trying to use the google plus stuff to do a "virtual" meeting...
<QuinDevelin> *nod*  i believe google is not your friend...kinda like facebook and linkedin
<r2d2rogers> have had a couple of successful (4 or more people attending) sessions so far
<r2d2rogers> Cool
<r2d2rogers> IRC is the accepted medium for many open source projects.
<r2d2rogers> for real time anyhow...
<Ahmuck> our local lug use skype, and are in the process of setting up our own xmpp server to do video
<r2d2rogers> awesome, I'm a big fan of xmpp
<r2d2rogers> I was reading about an effort to project to replace much of Dropbox's functionality in a do it on your own server way that was using xmpp
<kwadroke> I've seen one, but it didn't work too well
<Ahmuck> interesting
<r2d2rogers> I'll have to figure out what set of links that would be in
<Ahmuck> anywho, back to the public logs and then i'll get off my soapbox.  often i don't mind discussing things with friends but don't want public logs because it so easy to take them out of context, or misread them or make them available for every snoop out there wanting to cause a ruckus or mine information.
<Ahmuck> oddly, i just happened to be on this evening
<Ahmuck> btw, why so late for chat night?
<Ahmuck> some of us do have lives u know
<r2d2rogers> My original thought was it was after the bedtime of my elementary age sons
<r2d2rogers> but the time should be set to serve the group.
<az7> hey hey, sorry i missed chat/hangout night
<r2d2rogers> I'd be open to change it
<r2d2rogers> az7: still about 30 minutes left in the hour ;)
<r2d2rogers> there's no reason why people couldn't come in earlier/later and chat...
<QuinDevelin> perfect time for me...everyone else is in bed...wife included
<r2d2rogers> we were just trying to set a regular time that people could expect there to be someone here to talk to .
<Ahmuck> i understand the sons thing
<r2d2rogers> I'm habing fun adjusting to a new job still, I recently moved back to Arkansas after 10 years in Louisiana
<az7> night all
<r2d2rogers> G;ngiht az7
<r2d2rogers> what part of arkansas are you from QuinDevelin?
<QuinDevelin> central arkansas
<r2d2rogers> Cool, I'm in Conway
<QuinDevelin> schweet...you should come to the conway gaming center this thursday
<r2d2rogers> oh yeah?
<r2d2rogers> I don't think I have anything else to do
<QuinDevelin> yep...some of us are gathering there at about 7PM
<r2d2rogers> sounds fun.
<r2d2rogers> I know kwadroke is usually there.
<kwadroke> yeah
<kwadroke> there now
<r2d2rogers> <G>
<r2d2rogers> that would be an interesting setup...
 * QuinDevelin chuckles and tells kwadroke to get a life.
<kwadroke> this is my life
<r2d2rogers> a group video conference between multiple groups
<r2d2rogers> I had a video interview with a place in Little Rock when I was on the job hunt... that was interesting.
<r2d2rogers> QuinDevelin: what kind of meetup is it on Thrusday?
<QuinDevelin> DefCon Group 501 Social Gathering
<r2d2rogers> sweet
<r2d2rogers> I never did remember to email the person I was refered to for hta
<r2d2rogers> tthat..
<QuinDevelin> aye...we're actively recruiting...anyone interested in technology in general and especially information security is not only welcome, but encouraged to come.
<r2d2rogers> sweet
<QuinDevelin> bring your family, bring your friends...hell if you don't have friends, bring your enemies!
<kwadroke> lol
<az7> the pizza is good too
<QuinDevelin> :) social skills not necessary...we have workshops for that kind of thing
<r2d2rogers> lol
<r2d2rogers> It seems like I'm very interested in hands on tech stuff, but also things I can get my boys into..
<r2d2rogers> I'd love to have them playing with Arduinos and the like
<kwadroke> brb
<r2d2rogers> k
<QuinDevelin> sweet!   how old?
<r2d2rogers> 7 and 9
<r2d2rogers> they've been wanting me to do the heli-rocket project from make magazine all summer...
<r2d2rogers> but with moving up here and trying to get details sorted out, the materials have collected and nothing else happened
<QuinDevelin> very cool...next thursday we're meeting in Maumelle to go over a project a couple of the newer members have been working on...you should come and bring the heli-rocket project idea with you
<QuinDevelin> we're looking for our next group project (the last one was a beginner's introduction to lock picking)
<r2d2rogers> Sweet
<kwadroke> back
<r2d2rogers> the heli-rocket is about $5 worth of materials
<QuinDevelin> no way!
<r2d2rogers> yup
<r2d2rogers> paper towel rolls, some thin card board, a bit of balsa, a wire hanger...
<r2d2rogers> and the engine
<QuinDevelin> that's awesome!
<r2d2rogers> yup
<r2d2rogers> if you have all the stuff, it's a saturday project
<r2d2rogers> possibly a friday night, launch on saturday one.
 * r2d2rogers looks for the link
<r2d2rogers> http://makeprojects.com/Project/-5-HeliRocket/500/1
<QuinDevelin> sweet!  i bet we can incorporate a gps tracking device in it so we can facilitate recovery :D
<kwadroke> need some sort of celluar communication to send out the location
<r2d2rogers> might have to up scale it a bit
<r2d2rogers> but that would be an awesome enhancement
<Ahmuck> how was Louisiana?
<r2d2rogers> pretty darn good, really, I met my wife there for instance.
<r2d2rogers> worked for the same company that whole time.
 * QuinDevelin yawns... g'nite all bedtime for quin
<QuinDevelin> hope to see you guys at CG
<QuinDevelin> CGC Thursday
<kwadroke> cya quin
<Ahmuck> sparkfun
<r2d2rogers> sparkfun?
<kwadroke> http://sparkfun.com
<kwadroke> all kind of electronics
<kwadroke> good for projects
 * r2d2rogers is looking
<kwadroke> make sure your credit card is far way while you browse
<kwadroke> :)
<r2d2rogers> good advice
<r2d2rogers> I just grabbed a bunch of stuff from amazon
<r2d2rogers> prolly about $50 worth of under $5 items
<kwadroke> well, I;m out
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-18
<Ahmuck> k, i could use some pointers if someone is around
<kwadroke> hello ploftness
<ploftness> hey
<ploftness> I got an email about a meeting on irc tonight?
<ploftness> or was it two  nights ago?
<ploftness> been wanting to get involved in the group
<ploftness> ok, I just saw the ChanBulletin
<kwadroke> the IRC meetings are on Tuesdays
<ploftness> guess I missed it :(
<kwadroke> we also do a Google+ Hangout too on Tues
<ploftness> btw- are you coming to PyCon this year?
<kwadroke> here in AR?
<kwadroke> or another one?
<ploftness> I'm going to AR.
<ploftness> Dallas is a little bit far.
<kwadroke> I plan on it
<kwadroke> didn't get to go last year
<ploftness> :)
<kwadroke> I went to the first one
<ploftness> Yea, I was busy too.  I had to arrive late. :/
<ploftness> I missed a couple of people I wanted to see.
<kwadroke> hopefully the committee will get formed soon for it
<kwadroke> so things will be more concrete
<ploftness> yea... ditto
<ploftness> I like the idea of the student talks.
<kwadroke> so I'm guessing you're on the planning mailing list?
<ploftness> yea
<kwadroke> same here
<ploftness> Some things are settled.
<ploftness> Some are not.
<kwadroke> yeah
<ploftness> What are your thoughts?
<kwadroke> I know the date and place have been set
<ploftness> Yes... they are at the talk-scheduling stage
<kwadroke> yeah
<kwadroke> hopefully the City will give money again
<ploftness> agreed
<ploftness> BTW- I have one other question for ya.
<ploftness> Its a little unrelated.
<ploftness> Do you know anyone with the new DefCon group in LR?
<ploftness> I stumbled across their site recently.
<kwadroke> yep
<kwadroke> I'm in it
<kwadroke> we have an IRC channel on irc.arkgeeks.com
<kwadroke> http://irc.kwadnet.com/?channels=caia
<kwadroke> we're having a social off-week meeting tonight in Conway
<kwadroke> nothing official, just a hang out and BS meeting
<kwadroke> we have 2 regular meetings a month
<kwadroke> 2nd & 4th Thursdays
<ploftness> ok :)
<ploftness> so- tonight?
<ploftness> since its non-official
<kwadroke> yeah, 7pm at Conway Gaming Center
<ploftness> k, awesome
<kwadroke> 2455 Washington Ave Suite 105
<ploftness> could I visit?
<kwadroke> sure
<ploftness> ok
<ploftness> I will try to make it.
<kwadroke> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&msid=208070239806445097536.00047bcbd294888337005&ll=35.112273,-92.44728&spn=0.003072,0.00456&z=17&vpsrc=0&iwloc=00047bcbd6a261d4ccedf&f=d&daddr=Conway+Gaming+Center+%4035.110957,-92.44736
<ploftness> ok, thanks
<ploftness> I live in Conway so it shouldn't be a problem
<kwadroke> ok
<ploftness> good talkin' to ya
<kwadroke> yeah. Same here
<az7> wait.. when is pyArkansas?
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-20
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#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-24
<r2d2rogers_> Good evening
<kwadroke> evening
<r2d2rogers_> got hte hangout started
<r2d2rogers_> forgot to email earlier... will see if anyone shows up
<r2d2rogers_> howdy waynew
<waynew> hey r2d2rogers_
<waynew> how goes it this fine tuesday evening?
 * waynew usually forgets about the weekly chat
<r2d2rogers_> pretty well, trying to get set to put cyanogen on my android phone
<waynew> I think this is my second time making it :P
 * waynew is not familiar with cyanogen
<r2d2rogers> it's more vanilla google distro of android
<waynew> but I do have an android phone^_^
<waynew> ooooh yeah
<waynew> I knew I had heard the term somewhere
<r2d2rogers> less crufty
<r2d2rogers> I have one person in the google+ hangout
<waynew> yeah, I've got a samsung galaxy s... and it does have a bit of cruft on it
<r2d2rogers> https://plus.google.com/#113343680491548824655/posts
<r2d2rogers> 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abNods33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab I'm on a Captivate
<waynew> thought about dropping by the hangout... but I don't have a webcam on here, so...
<r2d2rogers> sounds works too
<r2d2rogers> no video doesn't lock you out
<waynew> well, no real mic to speak of either ;)
<r2d2rogers> no worries
<waynew> just catching up on my blog reading... 126 unread on my main account, whoops
<r2d2rogers> wow
<r2d2rogers> you keep up better than I do...
<r2d2rogers> I think I subscribe to too many things
<waynew> quite a few posts on Gurney Journey - he's an artist (the creator of Dinotopia), and usually has fairly interesting posts. Of course I'm a hobby artist... actually I'm a hobby most things, heh
<r2d2rogers> Hey __todd__
<r2d2rogers> waynew and kwadroke  are active here too
<waynew> yes indeed
<kwadroke> mostly here
<r2d2rogers> xHey zillah
<zillah> hey there
<waynew> welcome zillah
<zillah> how are things tonight?
<r2d2rogers> pretty good
<waynew> going swell, just catching up on my rss feeds
<r2d2rogers> trying ti figure out if we can think of a topic for tonight
<kwadroke> I do have a question for you guys...
<kwadroke> I'm wanting to setup a vpn for gaming. Has anyone else done this?
<waynew> nope
<waynew> only vpn I've done was with Hamachi
<kwadroke> hamachi seems to be a bit over kill
<r2d2rogers> the only thing that comes to mind is yeah... hamachi
<r2d2rogers> what about something like open vpn?
<kwadroke> I've got a Dyndns account so I don't need hamachi's middle man
<waynew> unless some newer programs have come out in the last 3 years, Hamachi was the easiest way that I had heard of by far
<zillah> ive used PoPToP before.
<kwadroke> and I can open ports easy enough
<kwadroke> it's mostly going to be Windows clients connecting
<kwadroke> I thought about just recommending putty with port forwarding
<r2d2rogers> Welcome module000
<module000> hiya
<kwadroke> and use /bin/false as the shell
<zillah> poptop is great for windows clients. you can use the built in vpn client.
<kwadroke> does that work with WinXP -Win7?
<zillah> yep
<zillah> and win2k
<kwadroke> how easy is it to setup the server?
<zillah> from what i remeber ita pretty easy. it's been yeara since i've messed with it though
<r2d2rogers> howdy johndoc
<kwadroke> oh pptp
<kwadroke> I think I may have setup this a long time ago on another server
<waynew> OK Go! and the Muppets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiMZa8flyYY&feature=player_embedded
<johndoc> hiya
<johndoc> i did no think that came out until tomorrow
<waynew> it was posted on GeekDad... that was hilarious
<johndoc> i was excited when i found the preview while watching music vids the other night
<waynew> OK Go amuses me greatly... as well as the Muppets. They've pretty much embraced YouTube, I've noticed
<johndoc> i like both, but i don't care the cover really
<johndoc> the video is cool though
<johndoc> *care for the
<waynew> I think my favorite bit of Muppet related trivia (so far) is on the foreward of one of the Muppet Show Tonight! videos that my dad has...
<waynew> it was before the Alice Cooper show... and Brian Henson (Jim's son) was saying that they had pretty much convinced people that the Muppet Show was a clean, wholesome, family show... "and then my dad went out and got Alice Cooper on the show". Heh.
<johndoc> i learned my first "dirty" joke from the muppet show
<r2d2rogers> LOL
<r2d2rogers> sared to ask
<r2d2rogers> scared
<johndoc> it's not too bad
<johndoc> i remember it was the crab with the funny accent and he said "What do you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino?" *short pause* "ellufino" which as a kid was funny picturing a half elephant half rhino until about a week later when i realized he actually said "hell if i know"
<waynew> lol
<johndoc> i had retold the joke to my parents half a dozen times never getting the reaction i expected, just scrunched eyebrows and a stern talking to
<waynew> I'm sure that was confusing for a young child
<johndoc> indeed
<r2d2rogers> so what can we do for topics for next week to get more people interested in participating?
<johndoc> i told that story to my wife last week when i saw the preview for the ok go thing and she's still laughing (of course she knows my parents)
<zillah> r2d2rogers: netcat ;)
<zillah> netcat is always a fun topic
<waynew> wow... voxel based storage http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/08/coming-soon-supermans-memory-crystals/
<r2d2rogers> yeha that's gonna be cool
<r2d2rogers> zillah: you up for doing a demo or talk ? :)
<kwadroke> sounds like isolinear rods from DS9
<zillah> possibly. what would we use netcat for?
<zillah> id love to use it to stream audio to anpter computer but ive never actually done it :P
<zillah> i could try to do a general intro
<zillah> would we just do it on google hangout?
 * waynew has heard of netcat before, but doesn't remember what it is/for... 
<waynew> so I guess that would be interesting ;)
<r2d2rogers> THat would be the main talk channel I'd think
<r2d2rogers> I don't know how easy a screen cast would be on the hangout
<r2d2rogers> I don't the the resolution is high enough
<r2d2rogers> we might have to think about that one a bit
<zillah> netcat is used to pipe network traffic waynew
<r2d2rogers> but I'm very interested in learning more about using netcat
<kwadroke> if done right it can be done on a screen cast
<zillah> maybe a terminal window with a big font
<kwadroke> use webcam studio http://www.ws4gl.org/
<kwadroke> it can capture part of a screen
<kwadroke> I've used it for game streaming on ustream.tv
<zillah> for windows?
<kwadroke> linux
<kwadroke> for windows I use ManyCam
<zillah> ah ok
<kwadroke> http://www.manycam.com/
<kwadroke> it does the same thing
<zillah> ok
<r2d2rogers> kwadroke: what all does the defcon group do project wise?
<kwadroke> we haven't nailed down a particular project yet
<kwadroke> we have presentations and such
<r2d2rogers> Is the defcon group synonymous with the hackerspace group or is there just a lot of overlap?
<kwadroke> a lot of overlap
<kwadroke> the hackerspace is being started by the defcon group
<kwadroke> but it will be a seperate entity
<r2d2rogers> I'd love to see a project space be established
<kwadroke> same here. one of the reasons I joined in
<r2d2rogers> I have a bunch of altoids tins that need projects
<r2d2rogers> a modular something would be cool...
<kwadroke> that reminds me, I need to get the flip-flops out of the car
<r2d2rogers> ??,G>
<kwadroke> http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4422.0
<kwadroke> I'm making a scanline generator for the LCDs in my arcade cabinets
<kwadroke> and they use flip-flop ICs to make the lines
<r2d2rogers> AHhh
<r2d2rogers>  ok
<r2d2rogers> sweet
<r2d2rogers> there are al sorts of hands on projects that would be cool
<r2d2rogers> playing with GPG keys and encryption would be a good defcon topic
<kwadroke> we talked about that... just no one's all that familar with it
<kwadroke> something we're still wanting to do
<r2d2rogers> check out the howto's on Ubuntu's site or debian keysigning info
<kwadroke> yeah. I've got a book on it too
<r2d2rogers> I need to make a new key
<r2d2rogers> I managed to forget my password or typo consistently when I made it
<zillah> going to sleep guys. i'll look into doing something about netcat and let you know
<kwadroke> yeah about to head home myself
<zillah> ttyl
<johndoc> what's up guys?
<kwadroke> not much
<johndoc> what happened to the...dawg guy that use to be in here?
<kwadroke> nwadawg?
<kwadroke> haven't seen him in awhile
<johndoc> ah, i rarely come in here
<kwadroke> it's usually pretty quiet in here
<kwadroke> except tuesday nights
<kwadroke> unless someone starts talking
<johndoc> lol
<module000> haven't idled here in ages :P
<kwadroke> I'm usually on here during the day
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-08-31
<az7> chat night!
<TommyT> If I start the meetup and have to go, will it die when I leave?
<TommyT> hangout
<az7> good question?
<TommyT> I guess I can try
<TommyT> well, I started it but I don't know how to tell people where it is. I guess my G+ address
<TommyT> which is https://plus.google.com/105934210296246902882/ ?
<az7> I may just do IRC tonight. I'm kind of awayish.
<az7> did you give a VOIP presentation at barcamp Conway?
<TommyT> Yes that was me... I hadn't realized how very rusty I've gotten at presenting
<TommyT> I have had some strange issues with VoIP that I finally tracked down to Tomato (router software) I think
<az7> nah, there was a lot of good information in it.
<TommyT> thanks...  Hmmmm I wonder if I can make IRC and Google chat show up together somehow
<az7> hey hey
<kwadroke> hey
<Startrekker> hello
<TommyT> my sound went out
<TommyT> I am on a different machine this week but having sound trouble again
<kwadroke> I'm working on several things at once and on 3 different channels, so I won't be joining the hangout
<Startrekker> I don't see the hangout just your profile
<TommyT> It's pretty uninteresting ... some guy in front of some boxes typing and no sound
<TommyT> do you have to make the hangout "public" somehow?
<Startrekker> Maybe otherwise you'll have to be friends with them and add your friends group
<kwadroke> don't think you have to
<TommyT> when you look at my profile, is there a little camera and "LIVE" below me?
<kwadroke> got a join this hangout
<TommyT> weird...
<TommyT> I don't know how to work this, obviously
<Startrekker> there is now
<TommyT> It kept warning me about not sharing with just anybody. I guess they don't want it to become "chat roulette" or something
<Startrekker> Have to install some plugins
<TommyT> Yeah, and then be sure to test your sound... mine quit after I started up Pidgin
<kwadroke> It's got the live icon
<kwadroke> don't have a mic and webcam tonight
<TommyT> I'm here in living color and mute.
<TommyT> Or maybe not-so-living color. Looks dark
<Startrekker> no video for me....
<TommyT> OK Daniel and I hung out briefly but I got the "time to go" text from the house so I'll shut down in a couple of minutes
<TommyT> We were finding that the volume control adjusted itself upwards (on both ends) until the echo was pretty bad
<Startrekker> Going to try a headset next time
<TommyT> a headset would be good...
<TommyT> This webcam has a mic on it and I don't really know how good it is
<kwadroke> I usually have better luck with webcam mics than onboard mics
<TommyT> It may be too far from me... it's about 3.5ft back
<TommyT> Good night, all. I'm an hour late leaving the office. Sadly it's typical.
#ubuntu-us-ar 2012-08-29
<az7> chat night!
#ubuntu-us-ar 2012-08-30
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