#ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-01 <c_smith> bkerensa, is what broadway commons? <c_smith> bkerensa, Broadway Commons Coffee Shop is at the intersection of Broadway and Gaines. <tgm4883> bkerensa, it's next to one <tgm4883> well technically, the church owns the building that it is in <tgm4883> but the building itself isn't a church <c_smith> tgm4883, I'm working on switching over to Borderlands Games, gonna call them Monday, either in the morning or afternoon. <c_smith> might not be the best place, but it's quieter, we end up having to leave Broadway Commons due to noise, and I get the feeling that each person having to pay for coffee or something else is a bit of an inconvenience to people, I might hold off on this until I can be sure that we will have a big enough group to make this worthwhile, though. <c_smith> brb, restarting PC for update <bkerensa> c_smith: I might try to make it up to a salem ubuntu hour by the end of the month if I have time :D <bkerensa> also I distributed about 100 CD's in Salem/Keizer/Wilsonville today so :) #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-02 <nathwill> greetings all! <nathwill> slangasek, qq re: pam if you're avail. <nathwill> do you know if gnu sed and awk are avail at the time pam runs through it's postinst routine during a clean install? <nathwill> ^or anyone else if ya know... <slangasek> nathwill: yes, sed and awk are both Essential packages <nathwill> frantastic <nathwill> was asking because of bug 110287. think i've got a fix, but wasn't sure if the utils i'm using were available at that stage of an install <lubotu1`> Launchpad bug 110287 in pam (Ubuntu) "Inclusion of /usr/local/games in PATH" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110287 <nathwill> whoa, hi lubotu <slangasek> yep, definitely :) <nathwill> thankee, sai <cy1> woo kernel 3.3.0 <nathwill> 2011 - the year version numbers ceased to mean anything <nathwill> damn google anyways <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> slangasek: does Foundations work on bluetooth bugs? <bkerensa> I just got a Jabra v2 Halo headset and although it pairs just fine it does not show up in the sound settings so I cannot select it to handle my audio instead of the internal speakers or audiojack #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-03 <slangasek> bkerensa: nope, that's desktop team <slangasek> bkerensa: does this headset support both hsp and a2dp profiles? <bkerensa> slangasek: Unsure how I would determine that... <bkerensa> bkero: any thoughts on holding a MozCoffee? <bkero> bk mozcoffee? <bkerensa> bkero: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SOPs/MozCoffee <bkerensa> :) <bkero> bkerensa: so organize something <bkerensa> bkero: I plan on it :P <bkerensa> bkero: just wondered if you had any thoughts on a good venue? <bkero> bkerensa: something downtown <bkerensa> k <bkerensa> slangasek: Bluetooth Profiles: Hands Free Profile (HFP), Headset Profile (HSP), Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) <bkerensa> it has those <slangasek> bkerensa: yep - so I think this is a regression in the GNOME sound preferences <slangasek> bkerensa: the device is probably coming up configured in pulseaudio with a 'null' profile, and I don't think there's any way to fix this from gnome-control-center anymore <slangasek> bkerensa: here's a script that I use locally to change my bluetooth headset prefs though, if you drop in your BT address it will probably do the job. http://paste.ubuntu.com/912394/ <bkerensa> slangasek: where is bt address located? :) <slangasek> bkerensa: if you have the bluetooth indicator, click, Bluetooth Settings, click on the device <bkerensa> slangasek: I click on indicator > BT Settings > Click on device then > ? <bkerensa> no options to add this to the address <slangasek> then the address is listed as part of the information in the right-hand panel <slangasek> ? <bkerensa> slangasek: yes it has a mac address like "address space" <bkerensa> slangasek: the device is paired but it just doesnt show up in -> sound settings <slangasek> if it's paired, you should be able to see the address in the bluetooth settings <bkerensa> oddly when I click the volume control on the device it does toggle mute on my laptop's internal speakers <bkerensa> slangasek: yeah I can see the address but its greyed out <slangasek> and you can copy that address into the script <slangasek> yes, you don't get to edit the device's address <slangasek> you get to edit the script :) <bkerensa> ahh <bkerensa> slangasek: then I just run the script when I want to use that device? <slangasek> and pass it either 'hsp' or 'a2dp' as an argument <slangasek> to specify the profile <bkerensa> slangasek: ./bt_fix.sh hsp <-- seems to do nothing even if I pass a2dp <bkerensa> the address is correct in the script <slangasek> try running 'sh -x ./bt_fix.sh hsp' and paste the debug output? <bkerensa> slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/912420/ <slangasek> bkerensa: you have to use _ instead of : in the BT_ID variable <bkerensa> k <bkerensa> slangasek: Ok I changed : to _ and ran again it mutes my sound but does not seem to enable the BT devices functionality <slangasek> and do you still not see the bluetooth device in the sound prefs? <bkerensa> slangasek: nope <bkerensa> also I noticed when I click the BT indicator and click my device in pull down and click Sound Settings directly from there it takes me to System Settings instead of Sound <slangasek> bkerensa: 'pactl list short'? <slangasek> yes, there's a bug open about that <bkerensa> slangasek: pactl list short = http://paste.ubuntu.com/912428/ <slangasek> bkerensa: ah, so pulseaudio is currently not seeing the bluetooth davidhull@example.net. Have you tried dropping the connection and re-pairing? <bkerensa> slangasek: notably... Uhh the reason I got this headset was because after B2 rolled out my audiojack (3.5mm) stopped functioning <slangasek> (this part of the bluetooth experience really sucks) <bkerensa> slangasek: yesI have dropped and re-paired <bkerensa> slangasek: yeah especially since this is LTS <bkerensa> :D <slangasek> ok, I don't know how to fix that. The last time I had to pair a new device was before the latest upstream UI-rewrite disaster <bkerensa> slangasek: ok I will file a bug perhaps? what should I file this on though? <slangasek> pulseaudio <bkerensa> I do not begin to understand which package the defect would be occuring in <bkerensa> k <bkerensa> nathwill: I have to run but the banner came out really nice... perfect in quality <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> cool! <nathwill> what's the background color? <nathwill> we go with white? <nathwill> fine. didn't wanna talk to you anyways ;) <bkerensa> nathwill: its white <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: sorry for slow response today is my bday so I have been out for lunch and stuffs <nathwill> happy bday!! #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-04 <c_smith> bkerensa, happy birthday! :D <bkerensa> c_smith: thanks <bkerensa> FYI Ubuntu Oregon ZNC Server is being upgraded to Ubuntu Server 12.04 Beta 2 (Instability may result but unlikely based my experience so far) <c_smith> bkerensa, then should I login to the Freenode server until the upgrade is done? <bkerensa> c_smith: nah its currently happening right now <bkerensa> with any lucky it should occur transparently <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> I will restart it during a non-peak hour at some point tomorrow perhaps 4am <c_smith> cool, then I take it the server will need to be restarted? or is that something that usually only needs to happen on PCs? <bkerensa> c_smith: it will require a reboot ^ <bkerensa> but I do my reboots usually between 2am - 4am PST <c_smith> cool, not likely going to be on tonight at that time, but come tomorrow, I will have an essay to do, and gotta do it before 8AM the next day, I hate essays.... <c_smith> and it's a college argument essay. <cy1> I AM A GREAT AND EXTREMELY MODEST PERSON WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD PULL THAT STICK OUT YOUR ASS AND STOP BANNING ME FROM CAMPUS GROUNDS YOU ADMINISTRATIVE PRICK * cy1 clearly is going places <c_smith> wtf? <cy1> It's my college entrance essay, to wile them into accepting moi. <c_smith> cy1, not even sure what you are talking about. <c_smith> oh. I see. <cy1> college... argument essay? uh... <bkerensa> I am going to be without power almost all afternoon tomorrow <bkerensa> :( <c_smith> that sucks, <cy1> :/ <bkerensa> have a electrician swapping out every receptacle in our place <bkerensa> and the entire break box <cy1> Wow, what brought that on? <bkerensa> so... yeah Pac Power even has to turn off our pole power <bkerensa> cy1: uhh I would call it having a landlord who has not done his duties over the years to maintain one of his properties <bkerensa> and our power happened to nuke out the other day <cy1> bkerensa: obviously all your fault somehow <bkerensa> electrician came out and said lots of things were not up to code and had to be brought up to code ASAP to prevent a Arc from occuring in the walls and our place from burning to the ground <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> my landlord then tried to play off the electricians comments as a option suggestion for improvements <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> optional* <cy1> c.C <cy1> see that's why the concept of land ownership is fundamentally absurd. <bkerensa> I told my landlord that the electrician said the place is not in compliance with code and could be condemned and shortly thereafter he authorized the electrician to carry out a full overhaul <cy1> because it's only jerks who get to own any of it! <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> landlord then informed me he was doing this because "we are such good people" <cy1> And why did my server accidentally the everything D:< <bkerensa> epic fail <bkerensa> :P <cy1> Man I freaking hate Linux memory management. <cy1> I just have no luck w/ it. <cy1> Either my programs die because my arbitrary memory limit was too low, since there's no way to measure that stuff <bkerensa> cy1: how much memory do you have? <cy1> or else I run a program that just reads files into a buffer giving up the buffer for garbage collection every time, and it consumes all memory and $computer freezes. <cy1> I dunno like 2 gigabytes. <cy1> Yeah a hard reset... feh. <cy1> At least I've got it mostly headless to start up. <bkerensa> cy1: amd64 or i386? <cy1> bkerAMD <cy1> bkerensa: AMD <bkerensa> I have 6GB of DDR3 on amd64 and never really run into issues memory or CPU wise <cy1> I don't have 6GB of memory slots. <bkerensa> I see <cy1> Besides, more memory doesn't do anything if the kernel doesn't stop programs from consuming memory until it goes into a spinloop and dies. <cy1> They'll just eat that memory too. <bkerensa> cy1: well I do crunching which is pretty memory and CPU intensive and memory management seems solid enough to manage that without lagging any other applications on my system <cy1> The fact that I can kill almost any Linux machine just by displaying the PNG of Doom and it's been that way for years, just irritates me to death. <bkerensa> usually I'm crunching like 4 or five DC projects simultaneous <cy1> It's more in the lack of limits on memory acquisition then repeated memory use... * c_smith will go off to get something to eat since he forgot to eat dinner <cy1> I mean here's the program: http://pastebin.com/Pr3jsrXG <cy1> Clearly a very devious and unexpected application, not davidhull@example.net. <bkerensa> c_smith: I'm nuking znc real quick <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> hello mechanizedmedic <mechanizedmedic> hi <mechanizedmedic> ...ive never used irc before so i thought i'd give it a shot. :) <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: excellent <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: have you been to any of our events? <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> g'night all <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: nope. i probably should have. <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: We have a event coming up this month for the 12.04 release <bkerensa> more info is here http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/ <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: oh cool! do you do any workshops? <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: Not yet but we are working with FreeGeek to bring some workshops there this summer <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: i've been really eager to learn to do more with linux. i've been "converted" for a few years but haven't taken the time to learn some of the things i've wanted. <nathwill> man it's quiet today <nathwill> hey people... coffee bar is thataway <blkperl> here's some noise .... java-- java-- java-- <slangasek> pour me a cup of that <sbeattie> indeed <nathwill> on top of putting everyone in fear of their jobs, the coffee bar was closed today. boo <nathwill> just the black and oily for me #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-05 <bkero> bring some coffee for yourself <bkerensa> nathwill: that sucks <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> eh? <bkerensa> I wonder if c_smith realizes I nuked the znc <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> <nathwill> [23:37:39] on top of putting everyone in fear of their jobs, the coffee bar was closed today. boo <nathwill> ah <nathwill> yes <nathwill> lol <nathwill> twas the turrible <bkerensa> nathwill: apparently they did do layoffs in hillsboro today <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> at least that is the word on reddit <nathwill> yeah, building one was apparently pretty brutal <nathwill> they didn't touch building 2 <nathwill> what's the reddit link? <bkerensa> http://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/rswzw/yahoo_laying_off_2000_workers_tomorrow/ <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> a crying room with kleenex and water bottles <nathwill> srsly <nathwill> wow <nathwill> it's silly to say that the kleenex is a thing <bkerensa> nathwill: someone was talking about it on the reddit portland chan this morning <nathwill> we routinely have kleenex and lotion cropping up in our "relaxation" rooms <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> make of that what you will <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> our dev-random threads were pretty depressing today <nathwill> lost some folks who've been there for well over a decade <nathwill> i choose to remain optimistic about things though <bkerensa> nathwill: I hope things go good :) or at best you guys get bought out <bkerensa> and kept on <nathwill> i'm pretty cheerful about the sm. biz unit <nathwill> we're workin' hella hard and it shows <nathwill> so we'll see <bkerensa> nathwill: I got a really awesome bluetooth headset and unfortunately cannot get it to work with Ubuntu :( <nathwill> it's the best things ever get at a tech company <nathwill> lol <nathwill> nice <nathwill> filed a bug i bet... <nathwill> whatsa matter w/ it? <bkerensa> nathwill: yes I have <bkerensa> nathwill: well it pairs just fine but does not show up in sound settings and no audio goes over it <bkerensa> so I cannot use it but it pairs =/ <nathwill> ah <nathwill> interesting... <nathwill> obviously bt sees it, but not recognized as a sound device <bkerensa> slangasek tried troubleshooting it with me but imho it seems like it might be a lost cause <nathwill> you checka da dmesg? <nathwill> ah <bkerensa> I see a lot of bluetooth bugs open that have not been worked on so idk <nathwill> well, i won't bother then, i'm sure slangasek has better debugging skillz than i <nathwill> my keyboard/mouse is awesome <bkerensa> better then most I gather :D <nathwill> if it sees that bt isn't working, the receiver flips to usb mode <nathwill> like... magical <bkerensa> I have a pretty good mouse.... a Razer Imperator 2012 Collectors Edition with Gold Plated USB 3.0 Connector and Dual Lasers <bkerensa> hmm <bkerensa> nathwill: only a few weeks till UDS and they dont have any tracks posted <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> i noticed that <nathwill> very interesting <bkerensa> somehow I am supposed to keep busy for 6 days yet they dont even have tracks <nathwill> will apparently be winging things <bkerensa> yeah <nathwill> i'm sure you'll find plenty to do <bkerensa> yeah... I have to have meetings with some people which I guess will be good <nathwill> :) <nathwill> gonna berate mbr council? <bkerensa> peh <nathwill> or is that just wishful thinking <nathwill> lol <nathwill> you should bring them sour grapes <nathwill> as a present <nathwill> (ot) you know what's bad-ass? dspam is bad-ass <bkerensa> nathwill: mostly will be trying to work with dholbach to plan the future of dev news and also do some training with pleia2 to get the ropes of publishing UWN down <nathwill> gonna fixa da perl script? <bkerensa> uhh its fixed now <bkerensa> someone from #reddit-portland fixed it for UWN :D <nathwill> heh <nathwill> go reddit-portland <bkerensa> brb <TRAVISg> Hey all any one here? <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> uh <nathwill> bye! <nathwill> night everyone. <bkerensa> nath_will: amazing nick <bkerensa> :D <nath_will> pfffft <nathwill> found the upstream for the xchat icon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/840673 <lubotu1`> Ubuntu bug 840673 in xchat (Ubuntu) "Please package high-res icons" [Low,In progress] <nathwill> bkerensa^ <bkerensa> nathwill: Yeah I saw you added the tracker url <bkerensa> problem is I do not think xchat is maintained for Linux anymore <nathwill> fingers crossed. it's not a huge deal, but it makes my eye twinge <bkerensa> they have newer windows versions but Linux has not had a version change lately <nathwill> of the icon? <nathwill> or xchat in general <bkerensa> in general <bkerensa> Windows davidhull@example.net <bkerensa> Linux davidhull@example.net <bkerensa> I e-mailed them last awhile back and there has been no response which is not a good sign <nathwill> interesting <bkerensa> Bug #927441 <lubotu1`> Launchpad bug 927441 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "Far left character in panel (and launcher popups) distorted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927441 <nathwill> woot <bkerensa> nathwill: Openphoto for the win <bkerensa> :) <nathwill> super subtle... incredibly annoying <nathwill> openph?? <bkerensa> openphoto its a photo project <nathwill> ah <cweber10> # file: chaos.py <cweber10> #simple program from book <cweber10> def main(): <nathwill> this american life's new show "Take the Money and Run for Office" is a worthwhile listen for anyone interested in that kind of thing, btw. <cweber10> ack why you deside to paste you silly computer :P <TRAVISg> Anybody here? <nathwill> hi TRAVISg <nathwill> how's it goin? <TRAVISg> pretty good trying to wade through getting this new machine running right <TRAVISg> how are you? <nathwill> good. enjoying my day off, and lazily tidying up the office <nathwill> picked up some shelving and tossed out my old desk, working on a more open floor plan <nathwill> would help if i could convince the wife to throw some stuff out <TRAVISg> have been advised to report a bug for chromium but I have no idea how I ran ubuntu-bug chromium-browser but it said segmentation fault <nathwill> srsly? <nathwill> hrm <TRAVISg> Hey I know of a place that will come by and pick up if you have usable things to donate <nathwill> i may hit you up on that. :) can't say for sure until the wife inspects the "to-dispose" pile for any overly-aggressive disposal choices <nathwill> i know a good portion of it is computer parts that'll end up going to freegeek <TRAVISg> always shade it with about twenty percent you know will stay right? <nathwill> haha <TRAVISg> travis@N00B:~$ ubuntu-bug chromium-browser <TRAVISg> Segmentation fault <TRAVISg> That make sense to you <TRAVISg> ??? <TRAVISg> I have never reported a bug before <TRAVISg> Sorry to side track your project I am smashing my head into this :) <TRAVISg> reading up on the documentation for bug reporting I can't find this <nathwill> uh... <nathwill> second <nathwill> sorry, had stepped away <nathwill> nice hostname, btw. lol <TRAVISg> Whats that? <TRAVISg> my host name? <nathwill> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs <nathwill> this has the different ways to do it <nathwill> you don't necessarily need to use ubuntu-bug to file the bug <nathwill> it can be helpful <nathwill> but if it's not working, collect whatever info you can <nathwill> so... i guess Fabian Scherschel works for Canonical now... <nathwill> which is surprising, to say the least <TRAVISg> Don't remember him <bkerensa> nathwill: who is he? <nathwill> the german guy from linux outlaws podcast <nathwill> rabidly anti-ubuntu <nathwill> maybe it's an april fools joke... <nathwill> ah <nathwill> disregard <nathwill> lol <TRAVISg> Just to see if this rings a bell this is the output I get when I start Chromium travis@N00B:~$ chromium-browser <TRAVISg> /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:715: Unable to find include file: "apps/chromium.rc" <TRAVISg> Segmentation fault <nathwill> nary a clue, sorry <TRAVISg> just in the hopes that it isn't a chromium problem but something else that you may recognize <TRAVISg> No worries <TRAVISg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/974719 <lubotu1`> Ubuntu bug 974719 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium will not start" [Undecided,New] <TRAVISg> My first bug let me know if I need to change something? <TRAVISg> Any advice? <bkerensa> TRAVISg: does Chromium crash when the bug occurs ^ <TRAVISg> It wont start or if it does it crashes instantly <bkerensa> k <bkerensa> TRAVISg: I have responded to your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/974719 <lubotu1`> Ubuntu bug 974719 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium will not start" [Undecided,Incomplete] <bkerensa> ball is in your court now ;) <TRAVISg> I tried using Ubuntu-bug it gave output of segmentation fault <bkerensa> TRAVISg: try "apport-collect 974719" <TRAVISg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/974719 <lubotu1`> Ubuntu bug 974719 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium will not start" [Undecided,Incomplete] <TRAVISg> this is what happened from that basically same output <bkerensa> TRAVISg: click the link that it outputs or copy it to a browser then authorize it <bkerensa> and re-run ^ the apport-collect <TRAVISg> ah switched my default browser to firefox in system settingsthat seems to have helped <TRAVISg> Check that out now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/974719 <lubotu1`> Ubuntu bug 974719 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium will not start" [Undecided,Incomplete] <bkerensa> TRAVISg: ok updated #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-06 <bkerensa> TRAVISg: try the regular xchat and not the gnome <TRAVISg_> Hello anybody home??? <bkerensa> always <nathwill> test? <nathwill> hrm <bkerensa> nathwill: test <nathwill> sorry, was surprised to find myself already connected when i came into work <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: its ok to idle ;) <nathwill> haha <nathwill> i'm usually idle <travis_> hello all <TRAVISg> Hey there think I got his working <TRAVISg> hello all <bkerensa> ello <TRAVISg> does it take a really long time when you test the download servers in update manager? <bkerensa> TRAVISg: it shouldnt take more then a couple minutes depending on your connection speed <TRAVISg> weird I guess I am getting hung <TRAVISg> I will just go with UO that has been pretty fast <tgm4883> I've always had better luck with OSUOSL <bkerensa> speeds vary by how many people are downloading how big of a pipe they have and if its capped.... Notably some of the Oregon mirrors lag in updates so I use the main US Mirror <bkerensa> tgm4883: OSU OSL is one week behind in updates <bkerensa> ;) <tgm4883> bkerensa, OSUOSL has three sites around the country <tgm4883> bkerensa, interesting, they should be syncing every few hours I thought <tgm4883> bkerensa, have you told anyone in #OSUOSL? <bkerensa> tgm4883: I am sure they are aware since I told their NOC team a few times now <bkerensa> it doesnt seem to be of big importance to them <bkerensa> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.osuosl.org-archive <bkerensa> Its not just OSU though it seems the Oregon mirrors are constantly lagging behind on updates <tgm4883> Although I doubt it, maybe when we setup our mirror here we will make it public <bkerensa> tgm4883: here/where? <tgm4883> Chemeketa Community College * bkerensa was considering seeing if a Ubuntu Oregon mirror might be possible <bkerensa> there would need to be enough support from the loco <bkerensa> tgm4883: That is cool if Chemeketa gets a pub mirror * sbeattie doesn't believe the launchpad status page, looking at ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/.2/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-notifier/ , it has update-notifier packages that were only accepted into the archive at about 9am (PDT) this morning. <sbeattie> namely, update-notifier 0.119ubuntu2 <bkerensa> oh tiaz is in our channel and the mirror person :LD <bkerensa> sbeattie: yeah OSU OSL says their mirror is up to date <tiaz> hi :) #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-07 <nathwill> oh man... what a day #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-08 <c_smith> hello <c_smith> yo <c_smith> anyone alive here? <c_smith> can't be a knife using Portal technology that killed anyone, they don't do any harm, but look like they go right through you. XD <bkerensa> hello Azendale #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-09 * bkerensa changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | IRC Meeting 2nd Sunday of Every Month @ 7pm | This channel is publicly davidhull@example.net | Precise Release Party Coming Up! -> http://j.mp/PreciseParty | April Meeting Canceled Due to Easter <tanin> <-- is an Ubuntu user who lives in Vancouver, but spends a lot of time in Portland. Has a deep passion for everything open source, and would like to become an active ubuntu-us-or participating member. <TRAVISg> Hey guys, I have not paid for a cell phone in over three years and know need to get one pronto. Please let me know your inside scoop on affordable providers and retailers. I do not need cutting edge or even every service. Please you guys are my insiders. <TRAVISg> My e-mail is davidhull@example.net let me know <TRAVISg> Looking forward to the 29th <bkerensa> hi nathwill <bkerensa> good morning TRAVISg * bkerensa runs off to do some android hacking <TRAVISg> Good morning <TRAVISg> all <TRAVISg> I am running late to work WWWWEEEEEE!!!!! <TRAVISg> Going to idle though I will be in and out through the day <TRAVISg> bkerensa your the tech pundit give me the cell phone low down. <nathwill> morning people! <nathwill> just hanging out, getting ready to get aggressive with this mysql repair. how's your morning going? <nathwill> and victory <bkerensa> nathwill: good good <nathwill> hellz yeah <nathwill> helps when you fix corrupt databases before trying to migrate from mysql4 to mysql5... * nathwill rolls eyes <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> nathwill: i hear the new yahoo road map is a coming <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> well then you've heard more than i have! o_O <bkerensa> nathwill: apparently a all-hands meeting tomorrow :P <nathwill> ah <nathwill> yeah, i heard about that. be interesting to see how quick kara swisher gets the leak... <bkerensa> maybe that excludes anyone who doesnt work at HQ <nathwill> lol <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> no, all hands are all hands <bkerensa> ahh <bkerensa> webcast? <nathwill> yessir <bkerensa> what if you want to ask a question? <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> there's a dial-in number <bkerensa> lol <nathwill> srsly dude <bkerensa> nathwill: you should make some suggestions ;) maybe you will get bumped up <bkerensa> or down <nathwill> or out <nathwill> regardless, interesting times <nathwill> how goes life at the new house? <nathwill> you get bombarded on easter? <bkerensa> nathwill: ahh good kinda... Our neighbor is moving and our landlord is letting us find suitors for next door and giving us a $200 credit to find someone we like <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> although we did have some very odd power issues that required a electrician to spend six hours out here replacing every receptacle which was not bueno <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> ah, good times <nathwill> how odd? <bkerensa> nathwill: uhh well we were without power for five hours because who ever re-modeled this place jimmy rigged our wiring <nathwill> what awesomeness did they achieve? <bkerensa> I had to go to home depot and buy breakers and try to sort it that way which did nothing... in the end it was a short in one of the receptecles so they upgraded the entire place <bkerensa> all sockets and switches are now new <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> I think it cost my landlord a little over a grand <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> nathwill: TIL you can make Ubuntu shoes with Nike iD <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> i saw something about that... pretty crazy <bkerensa> nathwill: http://j.mp/IaHbUM <- <nathwill> wonder if they do size 17 <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> uuuugh <nathwill> gotta figure out how to have win7 suspend event kick off an action... <nathwill> boo <bkerensa> nathwill: yay I won tje juju contest :D with kees <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> oh x.x * kees hugs bkerensa <bkerensa> kees: I didnt read the full e-mail :( <kees> bkerensa: hehe <kees> bkerensa: I couldn't decide if this was "public" or not. <cy1> what juju contest? * kees waves his hands,"nothing to see here" <bkerensa> nothing at all <bkerensa> kees: well considering "he" does not idle here :P <bkerensa> and its so quiet * kees nods <nathwill> what charm did y'all write? <nathwill> ^bkerensa / kees * bkerensa coughs <bkerensa> nothing to be seen here <bkerensa> :D <kees> nathwill: it'll be public in a little bit, then we can talk about it. <sbeattie> kees: are you breaking embargos again? :-) <kees> sbeattie: heh, bkerensa did! :) <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> yokee dokee <nathwill> i'm so proud to have obtained embargoed nation status <nathwill> soon i'll be an admitted member of the UN <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> uuugh <nathwill> just had to break some poor soul's heart... because y! msgr has no voice/video support on *nix <nathwill> :( <cy1> meh, video chat <cy1> why did they want voice/video? <cy1> Just for grunt grunt ape grunt? <nathwill> while i agree with you... consumer linux needs to satisfy consumer wants... <cy1> meh, consumers <bkerensa> nathwill: who want to voice with u? <cy1> consumers should be producers, not just brainless nazislaves. <cy1> voice chat should be possible but, like the telephone, it's only really useful as a novelty thing. And some of us get tired of novelties after trying them out. <nathwill> bkerensa, nobody, just trying to answer question in another channel, and confirmed my previous experience <nathwill> had once upon a time a routine of voice chatting with my mom once a week <cy1> I think pidgin has voice chat over jabber... not sure since I don't have a mic <nathwill> yeah, jabber's not y! msgr though. i agree this specific issue is not a linux issue, but a closed platform issue. <nathwill> just sucks <cy1> yeah... <cy1> As the closed source community once again attests, incompatibility is profitable. <bkerensa> this is why google wins over yahoo <bkerensa> yahoo is old school :) <nathwill> cy1... short term... <nathwill> and bkerensa.. ?? i cannot respond <cy1> nathwill: yahoo instant messager has been going for quite a while, actually... <bkerensa> nathwill: and you should propose to CEO tomorrow that Yahoo get with the picture by courting Nix users <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> cy1, you'd be surprised <cy1> nathwill: surprised at what? <nathwill> popularity <cy1> what, its popularity is down? <cy1> I just wish more people would use digital signing and end to end encryption. I hate having to blare my IP address out just to come here. <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> cy1: u dont have to <bkerensa> cy1: get a cloak? <cy1> bkerensa: yeah, and put a bandaid over a leaky sewer main <bkerensa> cy1: it is not a leak sewer main... :) being naked is natural... if one doesnt like it they should cover up with a fig leaf <bkerensa> :P <cy1> bkerensa: Being naked is natural. Being unable to protect yourself is artificial. <cy1> I can see all the lurkers in this channel, but not the ISP spies, not the sysops, not the government, not anyone spying on my wireless. But they can all see me, and record everything I say secretly and anonymously, because you all won't use e2e. <cy1> That ain't exactly the garden of Eden when it comes to natural situations I say. <bkerensa> :D <cy1> Not like anyone is listening, just that it annoys me that I can't protect myself if they were. <bkerensa> cy1: Well ubuntulog and ubuntulo12 are listening <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> and lubotu1 and meetingology for that matter <bkerensa> :) <cy1> <3 <cy1> Who needs to encrypt a public chat anyway? xD <cy1> IRC over Tor/i2p is nice though. Nobody can get your IP address, so you can be more honest about stuff. <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> cy1: Your privacy chariot has arrived ^ <cy1> pff <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> :) <nathwill> srsly, not sure what purpose encrypting comms held in a publicly logged irc channel are <bkerensa> nathwill: you need to get on the znc bandwagon <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> bah <nathwill> i'm available when i am available! <blkperl> bad compiz! why are you taking all the cpu? <bkerensa> ;p #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-10 <nathwill> night all. probably catch ya later. <shirgall> I use https to talk to freenode because not all my comms here are publicly logged irc channel traffic <shirgall> (he said randomly) <cy1> shirgall: You mean SSL? Yeah, that's half decent assuming you know good root CAs. Sysops can still read your privmsgs though. Better to use OTR for that, in my opinion. <bkerensa> shirgall: I got some nice swag for you if you come to 12.04 Release Party :) http://i.imgur.com/CeHqN.jpg <bkerensa> and beer <shirgall> cy1: it's ok, I know a lot of the sysops for the ubuntu stuff <shirgall> bkerensa: believe it or not I'm going to south africa for a week :/ <bkerensa> shirgall: lucky you... I have been watching a lot of South African films lately <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> Bang Bang Club <shirgall> It's not like I get to play, I'll have to work <bkerensa> shirgall: I'm sure you will be in Oakland in May? <shirgall> bkerensa: it's iffy, not all of us go to every one <shirgall> bkerensa: I'm tempted to go anyway <bkerensa> shirgall: Ahh I thought it was a requirement :D <shirgall> bkerensa: I'm not in Ubuntu development, I'm in Professional Engineering Services <bkerensa> Yeah <bkerensa> shirgall: I am not a Ubuntu Developer either though :P <shirgall> bkerensa: So, I get to go once a year, but I have to apply and get approved <bkerensa> oh <bkerensa> wow <shirgall> That's why I was stoked to go to Budapest last year <shirgall> But I didn't go to Orlando <bkerensa> much better then Oakland <shirgall> Admittedly I've been to Oakland before, when I used to work for Informix <bkerensa> I am just concerned that I am going to end up being bored in Oakland since they have yet to post any tracks and I only have two meetings scheduled so far <cy1> shirgall: I mean the Freenode sysops, not chanops. <shirgall> cy1: Yeah, if it's really secret I pick up the phone <cy1> shirgall: No, they can read your phone conversations, at least when you privmsg over https. <shirgall> cy1: moderately secret, we have pw-protected channels on Freenode and Jabber. :) <bkerensa> :D <cy1> pw-protected...? * bkerensa is out for dinner <bkerensa> +K <shirgall> cy1: You'll note Canonical has its own voip server for the REALLY secret stuff :) <cy1> Oh, that's another thing that doesn't apply to sysops. <cy1> VOIP server, IRC server, long as everything is encrypted you're good. The former just wastes huge amounts of bandwidth. <nathwill> beep boop beep <bkerensa> indeed <nathwill> the silence is too much <nathwill> how is everyone? <nibalizer> bu21 <bkerensa> ... <bkerensa> nathwill: Offer a iPad 3 then maybe people will talk <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> pffft <nathwill> kde tablet <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> ikr <bkerensa> nathwill: this will make your day more happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZPfsPJDfXc #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-11 <nathwill> i am <nathwill> so confused <bkerensa> nathwill: wait till the end <nathwill> bkerensa, yeah, i've seen it all now <nathwill> still in a wild state of disorientation <bkerensa> nathwill: you working today? <nathwill> bkerensa, yessir. hangin' out doing the usual <bkerensa> nathwill: you wanna set us up a bot? <nathwill> bkerensa, for the irc? <nathwill> bkerensa, i'd be glad to. <bkerensa> nathwill: let me set you up a shell account <bkerensa> nathwill: PM? <nathwill> sure. <bkerensa> New logo is on the site -> http://www.ubuntu-oregon.org/ <bkerensa> time to get links to our social media stuff on the homepage <nathwill> whoo hoo <tgm4883> bkerensa, good job on Subway <tgm4883> and kees as well for sbuild <tgm4883> bkerensa, you should probably mark that somewhere that the Oregon team had two people in the juju charm contest <bkerensa> tgm4883: I will.. it will go in our monthly report to the borg collective <nathwill> headed out, catch y'all later! <bkerensa> wow I just noticed Ubuntu Oregon is in 830+ peoples circles on G+ <Test_> bkerensa: echo <Test_> bkerensa <Test_> bkerensa: echo <Test_> bkerensa <Notifo> bkerensa <Notifo> bkerensa <nathwill> morning all! <bkerensa> ello <bkerensa> nathwill: Bring on the Kraken <nathwill> Krakenify <bkerensa> hi jPiroshky <jPiroshky> hey ben, are you getting excited about the release party? <bkerensa> jPiroshky: I guess :P it just means work for me.... maybe if nathwill does the little speech beforehand this year <bkerensa> :D <jPiroshky> I went to the dorkbotpdx meeting at the backspace this week; there was some neat stuff. I liked the face-tracking animatronic robot and the slider controlled video synthesizer a lot. You interested in that kinda stuff? <bkerensa> jPiroshky: yeah <bkerensa> jPiroshky: This summer I hope to get to more tech meets in the city <nathwill> i can talk <nathwill> i am a veritable font of ponitification <nathwill> s/ponit/pont/g <bkerensa> nathwill: :D what are you going to call the bot? <nathwill> bkerensa, dunno yet <nathwill> crackbot <nathwill> or Trubl <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> is del.icio.us still a thing? <nathwill> we totally don't need that in a bot <nathwill> killing it <nathwill> noodly bits <bkerensa> boom <nathwill> ack <nathwill> orebuntu bofh <nathwill> !orebuntu help <nathwill> hrm <jPiroshky> ^_^ <nathwill> hrm <nathwill> well, we got the little bugger to connect... <jPiroshky> what is the bot made out of? <nathwill> hackabot <nathwill> i'm wondering if i muffed the config... digging <nathwill> orebuntu cowsay "This is a test" <nathwill> well bkerensa... you've used this thing before... i'm apparently missing the syntax to boss it around <nathwill> hackabot cowsay "this is a test" <bkerensa> nathwill: I have not used hackabot <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> nathwill: #osu-lug has one called manatee <nathwill> hrm <nathwill> i become irked <z1l0g> hola * z1l0g curious about ubuntu-specific hack to GNU screen <bkerensa> z1l0g: hi <bkerensa> nathwill: ^ :P <z1l0g> specifically the nice divider between vertically split regions <z1l0g> guessing that's in the code and not simply a config file tweak <z1l0g> what do you all typically cover in the monthly IRC meetings? <bkerensa> z1l0g: Just discuss upcoming events and loco business <bkerensa> uh oh nathwill is breaking stuffs :P <bkerensa> lol <nathwill_brb> orebuntu praise c_smith <nathwill_brb> hackabot bofh cy1 <nathwill_brb> boooo... stupid frackin' bot... <bkerensa> nathwill_brb: maybe #osu-lug people know best <bkerensa> :D * bkerensa runs off to shake his LoCo Donation cup for Pizza money <nathwill> orebuntu praise nathwill <nathwill> !praise nathwill <orebuntu> nathwill: In caressing your follicles I am only vaguely reminded of the bitter harvest. <nathwill> VICTORY!! <nathwill> !praise bkerensa <orebuntu> bkerensa: Many sausages have known things before you had time to react. <bkerensa> nathwill: wtf <nathwill> bkerensa, lubotu1 needs to die <bkerensa> nathwill: I was just talking to my fiancee about having sausage for dinner <nathwill> bkerensa, hahaha <bkerensa> nathwill: why? <nathwill> bkerensa, give an order to orebuntu <nathwill> !uptime <nathwill> !praise c_smith <orebuntu> c_smith: The goats you buy shed a perfume that makes Marxism so terribly clear to me. <nathwill> !proverb <nathwill> !figlet ubuntu <orebuntu> _ _ <orebuntu> _ _| |__ _ _ _ __ | |_ _ _ <orebuntu> | | | | '_ \| | | | '_ \| __| | | | <orebuntu> | |_| | |_) | |_| | | | | |_| |_| | <orebuntu> \__,_|_.__/ \__,_|_| |_|\__|\__,_| <nathwill> orebuntu, the floor is yours. i'm off to a home-buying class <bkerensa> oh nice #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-12 <tgm4883> ! <tgm4883> !figlet bkerensa <orebuntu> _ _ <orebuntu> | |__ | | _____ _ __ ___ _ __ ___ __ _ <orebuntu> | '_ \| |/ / _ \ '__/ _ \ '_ \/ __|/ _` | <orebuntu> | |_) | < __/ | | __/ | | \__ \ (_| | <orebuntu> |_.__/|_|\_\___|_| \___|_| |_|___/\__,_| <tgm4883> nice <bkero> !faglet bkero <bkero> oops <tgm4883> heh <tgm4883> lubotu1> Sorry, I don't know anything about 'figlet bkerensa' <lubotu1> tgm4883: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) <bkero> !figlet bkero <orebuntu> _ _ <orebuntu> | |__ | | _____ _ __ ___ <orebuntu> | '_ \| |/ / _ \ '__/ _ \ <orebuntu> | |_) | < __/ | | (_) | <orebuntu> |_.__/|_|\_\___|_| \___/ <tgm4883> so apparently there are two bots in here which have the same activation command <bkerensa> tgm4883: yeah <bkerensa> tgm4883: lubotu <bkerensa> we will have to see about getting all the modules lubotu has and tell Canonical to make him go away <bkerensa> !figlet Beavers <orebuntu> ____ <orebuntu> | __ ) ___ __ ___ _____ _ __ ___ <orebuntu> | _ \ / _ \/ _` \ \ / / _ \ '__/ __| <orebuntu> | |_) | __/ (_| |\ V / __/ | \__ \ <orebuntu> |____/ \___|\__,_| \_/ \___|_| |___/ <bkerensa> !weather 97213 <orebuntu> bkerensa: Current weather for Portland, OR <orebuntu> Overcast, Temp: 52, Wind Chill: NA F, Humidity: 83%, Pressure: 29.72", Wind: North 0mph <orebuntu> Forecast: Chance of a Thunderstorm, High: 59 F, Low: 39 F <jPiroshky> !figlet WooHoo! <orebuntu> __ __ _ _ _ <orebuntu> \ \ / /__ ___ | | | | ___ ___ | | <orebuntu> \ \ /\ / / _ \ / _ \| |_| |/ _ \ / _ \| | <orebuntu> \ V V / (_) | (_) | _ | (_) | (_) |_| <orebuntu> \_/\_/ \___/ \___/|_| |_|\___/ \___/(_) <jPiroshky> hahaha <bkerensa> !figlet Wat <orebuntu> __ __ _ <orebuntu> \ \ / /_ _| |_ <orebuntu> \ \ /\ / / _` | __| <orebuntu> \ V V / (_| | |_ <orebuntu> \_/\_/ \__,_|\__| <goddard> !weather 97317 <orebuntu> goddard: Current weather for Salem, OR <orebuntu> Mostly Cloudy, Temp: 54, Wind Chill: NA F, Humidity: 69%, Pressure: 29.72", Wind: South 8mph <orebuntu> Forecast: Chance of a Thunderstorm, High: 54 F, Low: 37 F <bkerensa> !weather 99505 <orebuntu> bkerensa: Current weather for Fort Richardson, AK <orebuntu> Mostly Cloudy, Temp: 38, Wind Chill: 32 F, Humidity: 66%, Pressure: 29.81", Wind: West 9mph <orebuntu> Forecast: Partly Cloudy, High: 52 F, Low: 30 F <bkerensa> Thats cold <goddard> !figlet GODDARD <orebuntu> ____ ___ ____ ____ _ ____ ____ <orebuntu> / ___|/ _ \| _ \| _ \ / \ | _ \| _ \ <orebuntu> | | _| | | | | | | | | |/ _ \ | |_) | | | | <orebuntu> | |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| / ___ \| _ <| |_| | <orebuntu> \____|\___/|____/|____/_/ \_\_| \_\____/ <goddard> !figlet UBUNTU <orebuntu> _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _____ _ _ <orebuntu> | | | | __ )| | | | \ | |_ _| | | | <orebuntu> | | | | _ \| | | | \| | | | | | | | <orebuntu> | |_| | |_) | |_| | |\ | | | | |_| | <orebuntu> \___/|____/ \___/|_| \_| |_| \___/ <thefinn93> !figlet wut <orebuntu> _ <orebuntu> __ ___ _| |_ <orebuntu> \ \ /\ / / | | | __| <orebuntu> \ V V /| |_| | |_ <orebuntu> \_/\_/ \__,_|\__| <tgm4883> http://i.imgur.com/jy1BF.png <tgm4883> That is actually pretty good <bkerensa> blkperl: Your campus is not closed for any weird reason today right? I plan to bring out a Ubuntu care package for PSU <blkperl> bkerensa: not that i know of <bkerensa> blkperl: you guys need Ubuntu love yes? <blkperl> yes <blkperl> we ran out of cds <bkerensa> blkperl: ok <tgm4883> blkperl, you go to PSU? <bkerensa> blkperl: Be there in a couple hours or so <blkperl> tgm4883: yep <tgm4883> cool <blkperl> bkerensa: alright, i notified the front desk <blkperl> there expecting you :P <blkperl> tgm4883: do you go to PSU? <tgm4883> blkperl, no, I work at a college in salem <blkperl> oh cool <blkperl> !figlet PRECISE <orebuntu> ____ ____ _____ ____ ___ ____ _____ <orebuntu> | _ \| _ \| ____/ ___|_ _/ ___|| ____| <orebuntu> | |_) | |_) | _|| | | |\___ \| _| <orebuntu> | __/| _ <| |__| |___ | | ___) | |___ <orebuntu> |_| |_| \_\_____\____|___|____/|_____| <bkerensa> tgm4883: will you make the release party? <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> most likely <Brian_H> haha thats cool :) <bkerensa> !figlet Linbit <orebuntu> _ _ _ _ _ <orebuntu> | | (_)_ __ | |__ (_) |_ <orebuntu> | | | | '_ \| '_ \| | __| <orebuntu> | |___| | | | | |_) | | |_ <orebuntu> |_____|_|_| |_|_.__/|_|\__| <bkerensa> Brian_H: ^ <bkerensa> Brian_H: will someone from Linbit be at the release party for photos with the banner? <Brian_H> heck yea I'll be there and I think devin will be too <Brian_H> !figlet LIN:BIT <orebuntu> _ ___ _ _ ____ ___ _____ <orebuntu> | | |_ _| \ | |_| __ )_ _|_ _| <orebuntu> | | | || \| (_) _ \| | | | <orebuntu> | |___ | || |\ |_| |_) | | | | <orebuntu> |_____|___|_| \_(_)____/___| |_| <Brian_H> close :) <Brian_H> where will it be at? <bkerensa> Brian_H: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/ <Brian_H> sweet <Brian_H> I should probably just look there next time I have a question ;p <bkerensa> Brian_H: or mailing list ;) <Brian_H> let me check I think I'm on that <cy1> Fuckin Apple... how does an updated program make older printers that once worked, stop working? <cy1> I haven't been able to align my print heads on this Epson for years. :( Horizontal stripes, horizontal stripes everywhere. <bkerensa> cy1: although I am not a fan of censorship :P I will gently remind that on core channels we have to enforce the CoC <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> but I do understand ^ <bkerensa> blkperl: I am going to have to bump till tomorrow :( things came up <bkerensa> you will have them in hand this week though <bkerensa> and I will bring enough to hopefully last a month =o <tgm4883> cy1, I'll agree to that, Microsoft is the same way <bkerensa> tgm4883: I think its all software though... I had had open source stuff break in newer versions <bkerensa> tgm4883: my scanner stopped working for instance <bkerensa> and my headphone jack <cy1> tgm4883: well, specifically the Common UNIX Printing System, which Apple have commandeered. <cy1> What a mess. <cy1> I miss /dev/lp0 :( <bkerensa> How many of you are using openphoto? <bkerensa> to keep your photos "open" <cy1> ? <cy1> I use JPEG for my photos <bkerensa> cy1: http://openphoto.me <bkerensa> ^ all the cool kids are using it <bkerensa> (Disclaimer: I am Community Manager for OpenPhoto :P) <cy1> hm... <cy1> Controlling your own photos sounds suspiciously like censorship and copywrong. <cy1> But I guess another flickr.com can't hurt. <bkerensa> cy1: ? <bkerensa> cy1: openphoto provides a framework that allows self-hosting through Dropbox/S3 /Box (Soon) and your own server <bkerensa> so you own the photos <bkerensa> versus Yahoo or Google owning them <bkerensa> or Facebook for that matter <cy1> bkerensa: So, the idea is you're not trying to reserve reproduction rights, unlike Yahoo or Google. <cy1> who are totally doing that, but nobody reads the TOS <bkerensa> openphoto.me is hosted but it gives you S3 and Drop as a option or you can go to theopenphotoproject.org and git clone the code and self host <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> I keep all of my photos on my fridge <bkerensa> tgm4883: must get crowded <tgm4883> nah, I don't like to take pictures <tgm4883> so really, the only thing on there is coupons on the back of grocery receipts <bkerensa> tgm4883: :( I need to start using coupons... I hear so many people save money doing it but idk <blkperl> bkerensa: ok, but i don't think anyone will want them after precise comes out :) <bkerensa> blkperl: precise wont be out tomorrow <bkerensa> blkperl: how about 25 then? could you give that many out before precise? <blkperl> bkerensa: im sure we will go though however many you give us <blkperl> but precise is on everyones brain :D <bkerensa> ok <bkerensa> blkperl: really good stuff <bkerensa> blkperl: any PSU folk coming to release party? we would love to have you guys <blkperl> yep <bkerensa> blkperl: Precise imho is a polished 11.10 ... I really look forward to 12.10 and 13.04 which will be super good as they get ready to push to mobile <blkperl> bkerensa: I could care less about mobile :) <blkperl> I just want a stable server / desktop distro <bkerensa> blkperl: well they idea is not so much that I care about mobile just that they will have to heavily refine bluetooth support and other things that are essential to it working on mobile <bkerensa> blkperl: atm I have a brand new bluetooth headset that wont work :( <bkerensa> so they will have to fix this if they want to be successful in the mobile market <bkerensa> :D <blkperl> haha yeah that sounds like a problem <bkerensa> maybe bdmurray will know someone who can help get this bug fixed so I have working bluetooth :P <bkerensa> kees: How is Fedora trying to re-create the wheel? <kees> bkerensa: reimplementing the ptrace restrictions that my Yama LSM provides <bkerensa> hmm <bkerensa> kees: have they provided any justification for the move? <kees> bkerensa: kind of. mostly they seemed totally unaware of it. I've fixed that now. #ubuntu-us-or 2012-04-13 <bkerensa> c_smith: you around? <blkperl> where did steve go.. <blkperl> launchpad you should really recognize redmine when you see it, or not complain... <bkerensa> hello gaspasser <gaspasser> Good day. Just stopped by to see if there was any activity <bkerensa> gaspasser: only a little :) * bkerensa runs to take garbage out before he forgets <gaspasser> I am playing in Precise and having a blast with it. Waiting for the Cinnamon desktop to come back into play * slangasek waves <bkerensa> gaspasser: You can install that right now if you would like <bkerensa> blkperl: ^ * bkerensa really goes to take out trash and compost now <gaspasser> Last time I tried, the ppa for precise had been taken down <gaspasser> If it's back up I will reinstall <slangasek> <sealab2021>cinnamon!</sealab2021> <gaspasser> ?? <gaspasser> All I find is version 1.2. I had 1.4 installed. It crashed. <gaspasser> Installed Cinnamon ver 1.4...let's see how well
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