#ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-01 * pjizz waves hi to all the oregonians <nathwill> so the documentation for varnish makes things seem waaaay more complicated than they actually are... <nathwill> if you just treat it like nginx, it's simple. <bkerensa> tgm4883: ping <bkerensa> tgm4883: so you want me to re give it away or what? <tgm4883> bkerensa, yea that is probably best <tgm4883> bkerensa, probably have to go though the OS Bridge guy, the link does seem linked to my email address <bkerensa> tgm4883: yeah I will ping reid can you forward me the link <tgm4883> yep <tgm4883> bkerensa, sent <bkerensa> k <blkperl> bkerensa: omgubuntu is giving 502's on a pag <blkperl> page* <bkerensa> blkperl: im sure they are working on it <bkerensa> ;p * bkerensa is not on the web team :) I just write there * blkperl assumed you could poke in some irc channel or something :) <blkperl> bkerensa: kinda tempted to challenge you to a puppet vs juju article <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> they are for two different purposes <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> http://askubuntu.com/questions/52840/differentiator-between-juju-and-front-runners-puppet-and-chef <nathwill> so puppet is configuration management, eh? and juju is service deployment/orchestration... <bkerensa> Luke Kanies actually responds on AskUbuntu <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> i'm not a puppet expert, but from what i picked up at puppet conf, i don't know if puppet does provisioning... <nathwill> i could be waaay off... <blkperl> what do you mean by provisioning? <blkperl> well define it for me <nathwill> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisioning <nathwill> sorry, lazy <nathwill> i could be totally wrong, but i don't believe i can use puppet to create a virtual machine, e.g. <nathwill> my understanding is that puppet can configure a provisioned service with a set of defined characteristics, e.g. users/applications/acls/application configs... <blkperl> well im not sure if any providers currently do that, but it would be possible to have puppet create virtual machines using ganeti/openstack/vagrant etc <nathwill> so puppet *can* create vms? <bkerensa> so you have to use another tool in addition to puppet to get vms? <blkperl> well you have to use a virtualization tool <nathwill> bkerensa, so does juju, it's either using lxc for local or ec2/openstack for cloud vms... <nathwill> hrm, well blkperl, in that case, i'm not sure where juju provides functionality that juju does not. though, i will say i've only been playing w/ juju recently, and have 0 experience with puppet <blkperl> nathwill: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-node_openstack <blkperl> ok so you control openstack currently <blkperl> can* <blkperl> well openstack/amazon <bkerensa> nathwill: you dont game by chance? <nathwill> bkerensa, not really, little bit of console gaming, very seldom pc gaming <nathwill> why? <nathwill> i tend to lean towards FPS stuff <bkerensa> blkperl: I have just been informed by the juju-wordpress team that the 502 errors on OMG should now be resolved :P <bkerensa> nathwill: bf3? <nathwill> bf? <bkerensa> if so I will destroy you <bkerensa> Battlefield 3 <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> yeah, no idea <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> so i'm sure you will :D <bkerensa> its one of the top FPS <bkerensa> well it is the top in number of players atm <bkerensa> I hope a sequel to COD Blackops comes out soon <nathwill> with all this business about puppet, i'm gonna fire up some lxcs to screw around with... <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> Juju for the win :) <nathwill> lxc-create -t ubuntu -n gepetto; lxc-create -t ubuntu -n pinocchio <nathwill> har har har <nathwill> bet i'm the first person EVER to make that joke... <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> I hope this transfer is timely... :P I have a transfer from ING to US Bank coming for my trip funds :) <nathwill> heh, you're dreaming <bkerensa> I'm still not sure if I will just bring cash or leave it on chase <bkerensa> nathwill: Uhh I hope not... :) because if it doesnt arrive by Friday I R gonna have issues <nathwill> anybody know a good recipe for salmon? <bkerensa> nathwill: Did you know Texas has had 46 Death Row Exonerations in under 10 years <bkerensa> wow <bkerensa> nathwill: Baked or BBQ? <nathwill> baked <nathwill> i got some fantastic looking salmon from farmers market, trying to figure out what to do w/ it <bkerensa> nathwill: http://soupbelly.com/2011/07/11/grilled-salmon-with-brown-sugar-and-soy-sauce/ <bkerensa> Mmm <bkerensa> you can adjust for oven <bkerensa> time to go brew some tea <bkerensa> nathwill: ttyl I am going to go get wired on tea and frag out <nathwill> laters <thefinn93> bkerensa, where'd you find that ubuntu theme for android? <nathwill> thefinn, it's adw theme <thefinn93> nathwill, thx <nathwill> thefinn93: for sure, it's a neat theme :) <thefinn93> yeah def <thefinn93> i just got an android device <thefinn93> i've almost got CM7 installed <thefinn93> then ima get the theme <nathwill> :) <nathwill> yeah, bkerensa helped me find a good guide to rooting my evo shift, so i *finally* got off of sense/bloatware and onto cm7.2 rc4 <thefinn93> yay <thefinn93> yeah i couldn't stand the bloatware $print put on this thing <nathwill> what, you don't like nascar? ;) <nathwill> or being required to have facebook installed? <thefinn93> lol <thefinn93> thats exactly the problems i had <thefinn93> also its a cut down facebook app <thefinn93> it's terrible <nathwill> well given that the facebook app was recently caught reading people's SMS msgs, i'd rather not have it at all <thefinn93> oh i agree, i have no intention of installing the real one <thefinn93> it just seems that if they're gonna force you to have an app, they should at least have the real one <thefinn93> and not block you from getting the real one <thefinn93> ok so if I just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryanolson.adw.ubuntu <thefinn93> it will be pretty and ubuntu? <nathwill> erm.. yep <nathwill> well <nathwill> you install it, then switch to that theme in adw settings <bkerensa> nathwill: he doesnt have an android <bkerensa> he has a brick <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> i don't understand <thefinn93> bkerensa, i do too <bkerensa> thefinn93: still looks brickish :P <thefinn93> psh <thefinn93> whatevs <bkerensa> thefinn93: and when did u start using irc again? :D <thefinn93> i've been using it, just spend more time on other servers <thefinn93> subluminal, EFnet, etc <bkerensa> psh <bkerensa> freenode/oftc for win <bkerensa> :D <thefinn93> i idle on both <bkerensa> thefinn93 and nathwill: Wanna see what my new laptop will look like? <bkerensa> http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-series-7-gamer-busts-out-ivy-bridge-01225472/ <bkerensa> they wont sell in stores until later this summer but I will have one when I get back from UDS :D <bkerensa> has the new Ivy Bridge Processors that Intel just started shipping <nathwill> big... <bkerensa> powerful... <tgm4883> that's what she said <nathwill> ho ho! <thefinn93> ubuntu theme installed * bkerensa coughs COC <thefinn93> this looks nice <thefinn93> thx <bkerensa> thefinn93: now you need to bug the devs to roll out CM9 on all the models <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> man i hate our landlords... they just dropped off another batch of home-inspection notices to our apartment unit <bkerensa> nathwill: what is a home-inspection notice? <bkerensa> they think you got bugs? <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: maybe they are planning on selling the place? <nathwill> i hope so <nathwill> it has already been sold once <nathwill> home-inspection is just a routine walk-in, look-around, take off... property management does a basic check to make sure you're not damaging the property (e.g. running a meth lab) <nathwill> most places it's an annual thing <nathwill> but these fuckers come through about 3x a year <bkerensa> nathwill: thats excessive and I would flip out on them <bkerensa> nathwill: property management ran places I hear suck <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> nathwill: my landlord is coming today if it makes you feel any better :) <nathwill> bkerensa, i'm just keeping my head down until we buy a house <bkerensa> nathwill: no doubt <bkerensa> nathwill: it seems like the home buying season or something... my neighbor on our property just moved out yesterday because he bought a house and now my neighbor in the duplex next to us is moving out today to do the same thing <nathwill> well, if you've managed to survive the last couple years of shit economy, have some money in the bank, and good job prospects, it's a great time to buy <nathwill> interest rates and home prices are super low... <bkerensa> :P if it were not for student loans and other costs atm I would totally agree :) <nathwill> yeah, i hear where you're coming from <nathwill> we've been murdering our social life to save the money <bkerensa> yeah I cant do that <bkerensa> I like the finer things <bkerensa> or something close to it :P <nathwill> lol <bkerensa> Does Glisan Burger Barn count as a finer thing? :P <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> totally <nathwill> haha, my neighbor just sent me a text "hey nathan, if you have time can you come over and show me what i'm doing wrong w/ this lubunto install?" <nathwill> hells yes <nathwill> got my varnish charm nearly complete <bkerensa> hello pjizzle whats up in the wazizizzle <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: oh yeah? <bkerensa> nathwill: u should join https://launchpad.net/~sumo-hackers #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-02 <nathwill> oh yeah... sumo <nathwill> why should i join? <c_smith> nathwill, hmmm? <nathwill> hey c_smith... was wondering why bkerensa thinks i should join sumo-hackers <c_smith> nathwill, lol <bkerensa> hi nathwill <nathwill> hey bkerensa <nathwill> you're a villain <bkerensa> nathwill: Of epic proportions <nathwill> massive easter-egg hunt :D <nathwill> lolz <bkerensa> it is spring after all <nathwill> :P <nathwill> since i already know half the answers, i'm gonna give myself a 30 minute handicap <bkerensa> tgm4883: your silly <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> :) <tgm4883> Gotta love me some contests :) <bkerensa> nathwill: if it takes anyone 30 mins to do that then uhh idk if they should be using Linux <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: tgm4883 did it in 3 mins <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> oh snap <tgm4883> well I do know everything <tgm4883> I had to look most of those up <tgm4883> I think I only knew 3, and part of 5 <bkerensa> Dinner: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0484pc18e <bkerensa> btw what is a acceptable pizza tip anyways especially if its only three blocks away? <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> I always drop a $5 <tgm4883> $5 sounds fine to me <bkerensa> some of the mom and pop pizza places out here have insane prices <bkerensa> UFO Pizza is almost $25 for a pie <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> and Hammys is expensive too <cy1> That's why I make my own pizza. But it's a challenge to make any kind of dough in colder climates like this... <cy1> give a bigger tip if it's only 3 blocks away or they might send someone over to rough you up. <nathwill> ok, now it's whiskey time <nathwill> and salmon hour! <sbeattie> bkerensa: flying pie. it's also $25 for a pie, but the thicker crusts ones are like two meals. <pjizzle> pegasus or sy's is the pizza of choice in the EUG <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> wow, the flickr app on android is hella slow to upload... <bkerensa> nathwill: inform your CEO and ask for the job <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> demand a All-Hands :P <nathwill> no, all-hands are received for the bi-annual occasions when we get a new ceo :P <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> send the pitch up the internal mailing list :) <bkerensa> and hope for no walkout <nathwill> yeah, i shoulda just used the native camera app <bkerensa> nathwill: http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf <nathwill> dude, texas is as big as ceres <nathwill> ha, minecraft world <nathwill> that's awesome <bkerensa> nathwill: http://i.imgur.com/AizEG.jpg <cy1> bkerensa: wut <bkerensa> cy1: you looking at my horns ^ <bkerensa> cy1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6342050941/sizes/l/in/set-72157627710899733/ <cy1> That scale2 thing is... ludicrous... <cy1> bkerensa: So what's with the cops I dun' get it. Surveilling them? <bkerensa> cy1: was from when the camps were still in the parks <cy1> ...oh <cy1> I never got to see that. :/ <bkerensa> just thought it was funny the guy was wearing fuzzy black horns and a homeland security cop was looking astonished <bkerensa> :D <cy1> I guess that could be astonished. <cy1> Funny looking ski hats have long since divested me of any reaction to odd winter headwear. <hughessd> anyone awake? i could use some help.... <nibalizer> hughessd: with what? <hughessd> i am trying to upgrade the company server from 10.04 to 12.04 <hughessd> and after the reboot it says it can't mount the root partition <hughessd> and thank you for replying, nibalizer <nibalizer> hughessd: yikes, does it drop you off in a rescue shell or something? <hughessd> yes, it gives me the option of typing 'm' for manual recover (as root w/password) or skipping and continuing with the boot, <hughessd> which fails bc there is no hdd <nibalizer> yea <nibalizer> did you go to the manual recovery? <nibalizer> sounds like we need to lvchange -a y or fsck it or something <hughessd> yes, it is just the command line <hughessd> i did 'touch /forcefsck' <nibalizer> okay <hughessd> but that didn't force it * nibalizer personally believs forcefsck is lies <nibalizer> did you manually fsck it? <hughessd> no i did not <hughessd> ill try it when it comes up again <nibalizer> did it say 'root did not appear' or 'root had errors'? <hughessd> hmmm <nibalizer> i keep getting bit by this weird behiavior where the logical volume gets all deactivated <hughessd> here is what I can glean <hughessd> the first line at the top of the a screen says "root file system check failed" <hughessd> but that is only what didn't get pushed off the screen <nibalizer> eh no worries <nibalizer> get back to the emergency shell and fsck it <nibalizer> I can talk you through that if you need <hughessd> then when i cat /etc/fstab it has '/dev/sda1 on / ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr)' <hughessd> so the hd is being mounted, <hughessd> just not in time for the xserver or whatever is drawing the screen to catch it and make use of it <hughessd> ok <hughessd> so if you think the next step is fsck, i'm ready to go <hughessd> i should unmount first, right? <nibalizer> uh <nibalizer> hrm <nibalizer> so it sounds like you have your root filesystem <nibalizer> what does 'mount' show you <hughessd> mount gives <hughessd> aw crap <hughessd> did it not send all that i just typed <hughessd> curses <nibalizer> uh oh <hughessd> oh well <hughessd> mount has <hughessd> dev/sda1 <nibalizer> the point is what is / mounted on? <nibalizer> er what is mounted on / <hughessd> ah i get it ,i can't put a slash in front of things... <hughessd> grrr <nibalizer> haha <hughessd> im not good at irc <nibalizer> if you double // it lets you <nibalizer> /hai <nibalizer> or [space]/ <nibalizer> /hai <hughessd> exact line is; <hughessd> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_attr) <nibalizer> so yea, you have your root, ubuntu just wants you to fsck it <nibalizer> if you unmount root you're gonna have a bad time though <nibalizer> do you have a liveCD or something? <hughessd> um <hughessd> maybe <hughessd> i think i have a liveUSB around, <nibalizer> if /forcefsck isn't doing it for it <hughessd> and at least some old old liveCDs around <hughessd> ok, hang on a sec while i go search around.... <nibalizer> what does 'fsck.ext3 -n /dev/sda1` show? <hughessd> /dev/sda1: clean, <hughessd> 2330372/14606336 files, <hughessd> 37492553/58418356 blocks <nibalizer> hi <nibalizer> so it looks, like, good <nibalizer> and on reboots it complians that you've got a bad / ? <hughessd> yes <hughessd> there is probably a way to get more error messages but I can't seem to find them <hughessd> besides /var/log/syslog <hughessd> and kern.log <hughessd> i founda live usb if that helps <nibalizer> yea prolly reboot into liveusb <nibalizer> then more diagnostics we will perform <nibalizer> how long did you get for a downtime window <hughessd> i have until 7 or 8 perhaps <hughessd> ill get it booted in to the live distro <nibalizer> okay <hughessd> hm it's saying cd rom drive not found <hughessd> i have both cd rom and usb live distros... <hughessd> i turned on all ata drives in the BIOS <hughessd> fingers crossed <hughessd> hm <hughessd> not working <nibalizer> fuuuu <hughessd> this is no bueno <nibalizer> yea <hughessd> im going to stick the usb in to see if that's recognized <nibalizer> okay <hughessd> im workign with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 Server <hughessd> if that helps at all <nibalizer> i have no idea what to do really <nibalizer> i think you should ask on ubuntu-server as well as here <hughessd> ok, <hughessd> i asked in the regular ubuntu room and they ignored me <hughessd> this is weird <hughessd> it says / isn't ready <hughessd> so i push S <hughessd> then it says /tmp isn't ready <hughessd> so i push S <hughessd> then it says UUID = blahblahblah sin't ready (which is the swap) <hughessd> wtf is going on, is it just thinking that nothing is ready? <hughessd> ok the liveUSB is working.... <nibalizer> this is no good <nibalizer> fsck everything <hughessd> ok <hughessd> the USB is plugged in, i went into BIOS to make sure its in the boot sequence <nibalizer> fsck the ubuntu drives <hughessd> the server is rebooted and it gets to the Unetbootin Screen <hughessd> so i just choose 'check disk' <nibalizer> woot <nibalizer> no wit <nibalizer> check disk is like verify the usb driev <hughessd> "check disc for defects" <nibalizer> boot off the usb drive <hughessd> yeah <hughessd> that's what i figured.. <hughessd> ok <hughessd> Trying Ubuntu w/o installing.... <hughessd> ok, desktop now <hughessd> since im in the usb <hughessd> do i have to chroot to the other file system? <nibalizer> don't have to chroot <nibalizer> just echo /dev/sd* <nibalizer> figure out which ones are the ubuntu fses <nibalizer> and fsck <hughessd> sda, sda1, sda2, sda5 <hughessd> im guessing sda1 <nibalizer> yea <hughessd> hm <hughessd> sudo fsck /dev/sda1 <hughessd> e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) <hughessd> /dev/sda1: clean , #/# files, #/# blocks <nibalizer> hrm <nibalizer> try the other ones too <hughessd> sda2 said "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open" " could this be a zero-length partition" <hughessd> ? * nibalizer shrugs <nibalizer> i got nothing <hughessd> hm <hughessd> ill try to other one <nibalizer> if it passes fsck then its clean <nibalizer> why would ubuntu not let it boot <nibalizer> is there anything relevant in dmesg /var/log/syslolg /var/log/messages? <hughessd> sda1 is clean, sda2 is zero size and sda5 is sqp <hughessd> swap <nibalizer> hrm <pjizzle> sorry hughessd! <hughessd> :) <hughessd> if you're here to help then no need to apologize <hughessd> im at wits end.... <pjizzle> well, in my many failed linux installs and upgrades, i've never encountered that <pjizzle> post on ubuntuforums.org and wait a few days...someone can help no doubt <hughessd> ... <hughessd> this is the company LTSP server <hughessd> many people need this to work today <hughessd> ive been here since 11pm last night <hughessd> this was...unforeseen <bkerensa> hi nathwill <bkerensa> nathwill: You cant grab all the charms :P <nathwill> eh? <nathwill> i grabbed 2? <nathwill> i think there are many more pieces of software... <bkerensa> i know... I just need moar for this contest <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> i'm just trying to make things more complicated for the people in the contest <nathwill> make them earn those prizes <bkerensa> my landlord offered me a entire month rent if I painted the unit next door <bkerensa> lulz <bkerensa> Not a chance was the response <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> haha <nathwill> lots o' work <bkerensa> :) Yeah and so far I have not paid full rent for the last three months <bkerensa> since I have been doing improvements which I bill him for <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> nice <nathwill> ugh, home inspection just came through <nathwill> making the house smell like salmon last night may not have been my best idea... <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> nathwill: :) what did they have to say? <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> nothing. <nathwill> they came in, wandered around, and left <nathwill> it took all of about 3min <nathwill> but we'll see if i get a letter <nathwill> our office is a disaster, because we're reorganizing everything <kees> nathwill: you going to UDS? <nathwill> kees: nope. i'd like to, but can't really afford to, we're saving for a down payment on a house <bkerensa> nathwill: apply for membership then apply for sponsorship next cycle? * bkerensa will likely not go next cycle <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> bkerensa: yes, i plan on applying for membership soon. you've convinced me that Ubuntu Membership is not like membership in the Hitler Jugend <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> maybe I will be on the membership board when you apply <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> haha, that'd be cool <bkerensa> nathwill: not for you :P because I would not vote <bkerensa> nathwill: members get a fancy lwn.net premium acct <bkerensa> and a sixxs.net acct like slangasek has although they declined me one =/ <sbeattie> bkerensa: he.net will give out ipv6 allocations for free. <sbeattie> and they're not as.... idiosyncratic in who they choose to give them out to as sixxs.net <slangasek> oh, are sixxs being stingy now? <bkerensa> they said my proof of address was insufficient <bkerensa> =/ <slangasek> wat <slangasek> I don't remember being asked for my address <bkerensa> well when I registered they said my ip's geolocation did not match the address I provided or something <bkerensa> then asked me for a copy of my photo id and mail and my photo ID is still a California so yeah idk <nathwill> he.net is the way to go <bkerensa> was not worth the hassle <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> nathwill: I got one setup just now but no idea how to create the tunnel from Ubuntu <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> where can I RTFM? <nathwill> they has instructions... <nathwill> they has whole series of task-based tutorials <nathwill> very cool <bkerensa> nathwill: have you checked out the iTwin? <nathwill> is that the magical usb cloner thing? <nathwill> yeah, it looks pretty cool... have doubts about it working with linux <nathwill> in linux that technology is called "scp" <bkerensa> nathwill: MBA is sending me some :D <bkerensa> They are also sending me Verbatims new V3 Thumbdrives which are USB 3.0 <nathwill> ah. lemme know how it works out... if it works between linux and windows boxes without too much hair-pulling, i might get some for me and the wife <nathwill> slick. <bkerensa> the wife uses redmond products <bkerensa> >.< <nathwill> yeah... mine too <bkerensa> she was going strong on Ubuntu for awhile but Unity on 11.04 was killing the buzz <bkerensa> anyways I better get ready.... My mum is coming to help me plant flowers in front and a bunch of veggies on the patio <nathwill> sweet. enjoy <nibalizer> hughessd: figure it out? <hughessd> nope <hughessd> im trying to figure out to to save the data and reinstall the LTSP environment <hughessd> i haven't been able to figure out what could be keeping the system from booting if the hd is recognized as clean after a fsck <bkerensa> >.< <bkerensa> i kno u has wat going on the firefox way you kno fix it k? <bkerensa> haz not works five yars! #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-03 <bkerensa> sup nathwill <bkerensa> that bug was funny fyi <nathwill> right <pjizzle> installing ubuntu 11.10 on a dell latitude d600 pentium m.... <nibalizer> why no precise? <nibalizer> s/no/not/ <bkerensa> yeah it seems slightly counter productive to install 11.10 when 12.04 is more refined and stable <blkperl> grrr why can't network-manager be as reliable as wpa_supplicant <pjizzle> well precise is non pae...new kernel <pjizzle> so i installed 11.10 and then will upgrade to 12.04 <pjizzle> not ideal i know <pjizzle> apparently you can use a netboot mini iso <pjizzle> but i didn't know that <nathwill> aaaand the race is on <nathwill> how quickly can i reprovision a linode and install/configure LEMP, postfix,dovecot, dspam... <MarkDude> http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokecowspolitics.htm <cy1> A Christian Democrat wut <cy1> MarkDude: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/You_have_two_cows/17 superior <MarkDude> great list cy1 <cy1> My favorite is Surrealism <3 <pjizzle> christian democrat is a common european pol party <nathwill> done <nathwill> 80 minutes :P <nathwill> most of which was involved in bloody tar transfers <bkerensa> mmm <bkerensa> tgm4883: you around? <bkerensa_bah> nathwill: yo <bkerensa_bah> dont do it <bkerensa_bah> halt <nathwill> um <bkerensa_bah> xorg wont run <bkerensa_bah> heh <bkerensa_bah> im on irssi from recovery right now <bkerensa_bah> >.< <nathwill> LOL <bkerensa_bah> LOL YEAH <nathwill> lovely xorg <bkerensa_bah> Ill fix it thought * bkerensa_bah will just revert to precise <bkerensa_bah> >>< <nathwill> were you using proprietary drivers? <bkerensa_bah> nowhich <bkerensa_bah> no <nathwill> heh <nathwill> well... <bkerensa_bah> I think honestly my printer driver did something? <nathwill> wha? <bkerensa_bah> it like gets to booth <bkerensa_bah> and then the kernel acts up and some weird messages about canon printer bah bah crash <bkerensa_bah> :D <nathwill> srsly <nathwill> the hell <nathwill> well... i'm tempted to go ahead for the lulz <bkerensa_bah> do it <bkerensa_bah> maybe you can report a bug <bkerensa_bah> but im gonna drop back to precise it shouldnt be to hard <bkerensa_bah> :D <bkerensa_bah> peace <nathwill> lates <nathwill> haha, dude... this freaking bulldog just rode a rocking horse on late night <tgm4883> bkerensa, pong <bkerensa> ugh <bkerensa> restored my desktop <bkerensa> nathwill: just a FYI I was informed by the CC that they have been in conversations with LC and that the LC will respond to us to address our concerns shortly <nathwill> well that's nice <bkerensa> and I nuked my keys yet again <nathwill> you... did a nuke and pave last night, eh? <bkerensa> well I had backups but I do not remember the password to the encrypted archive I put them in <bkerensa> >.< <nathwill> doh <bkerensa> like I used a special password thats uncommon from my dailies <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> i managed to get everything downgraded, but i definitely hit the same issue <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> how? <nathwill> with MAGIC <bkerensa> I tried changing the sources.list back to precise <bkerensa> and no <nathwill> yeah, you have to use apt preferences to change prio <bkerensa> I am actually kind of happy.... My desktop really needed a clean install <nathwill> :D <bkerensa> =/ <nathwill> bkerensa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/965318/ <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> from... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto <nathwill> yeah, a clean install is usually cleaner <nathwill> but.. meh <nathwill> i got stubborn and wanted to see if i could do it. <bkerensa> yeah well now I have to get all my code back and get everything setup and synced again <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> nathwill: I forwarded the response from CC since they didnt add you <nathwill> ok, thanks <bkerensa> So I guess Electronic Arts and Steam will be at UDS <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> yeah, sounds like it's gonna be a riot <bkerensa> bbl <tgm4883> nathwill, do you have a doc on that (apt preferences/priority and switching back to precise)? <nathwill> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowTo <nathwill> tgm4883 ^ <tgm4883> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. <tgm4883> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto <nathwill> um <nathwill> maybe it's that one <tgm4883> weird, looks the same to me <nathwill> yep, there it is <tgm4883> oh, the last t <tgm4883> not cap <nathwill> ah. sorry <c_smith> meh, trying to figure out why Sins Of A Solar Empire Trinity is crashing in Wine is like trying to debug a rocket..... <nathwill> unless you're a rocket scientist #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-04 <c_smith> true. <bkerensa> I think Thai for dinner is in order <tgm4883> For anyone interested, it seems PSU is looking for a system admin <bkerensa> tgm4883: how much do they pay I might know someone <tgm4883> bkerensa, I believe it started at 55k <gpled> Hello <tgm4883> hi <gpled> anyone else having trouble printing pdf's after 12.04 upgrade? <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> nathwill: sup <nathwill> hey bkerensa. not much, back at my first day of work after the vacation <bkerensa> nathwill: cool.... Quantal is running :) <nathwill> bkerensa: sweet <nathwill> bkerensa: any noteable changes? <bkerensa> none yet :P <bkerensa> nathwill: you going to up? <nathwill> up? <bkerensa> grade <nathwill> ah <nathwill> possibly <nathwill> i'll see how masochistic i'm feeling tonite <bkerensa> yay I did my first review and merge ;p <tgm4883> bkerensa, looks like PSU is hiring soonish <bkerensa> nathwill: ^ <nathwill> oooh <nathwill> hrm <nathwill> i may need to finish updating my resume soon then <bkerensa> nathwill: I figured u might be interested <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> bkerensa, yeah... you see allthingsd today...? <bkerensa> nathwill: nope #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-05 <tgm4883> bkerensa, the keynote is livestreamed already <bkerensa> tgm4883: over that weird format? <tgm4883> weird format? <bkerensa> dont they use rtmp * tgm4883 shrugs <tgm4883> this is my first time being remote <tgm4883> they use icecast for the audio <tgm4883> not sure about the video <tgm4883> bkerensa, http://uds.ubuntu.com/community/remote-participation/ <bkerensa> yeah rtmp/flowplayer for video #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-06 <bkerensa> ;o <bkerensa> The channel is thinning <bkerensa> kees: you in Oakland? <kees> bkerensa: leaving in a few hours. still in pdx <bkerensa> kees: ahh :) Im at the marriott now... the rooms are very hot for some reason #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-07 <bkerensa> kees: were having a juju charm jam if you want to join later <kees> bkerensa: cool, when/where? <kees> bkerensa: I need to show up so I can distract everyone from working! <nathwill> hey bkerensa: you excited to be kicking things off? <bkerensa> nathwill: sure? <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: My feet hurt and I am sunburned <bkerensa> and slightly sick due to all the beer I drank last night :P <bkerensa> but the Keynote was good and the networking is great <nathwill> :) <nathwill> bkerensa: you should go to the LXC sessions <bkerensa> nathwill: you remotely participating? <nathwill> bkerensa, going to try to watch live stream <nathwill> depends on how busy work is today <bkerensa> im in the MOTU BOF right now <bkerensa> the audio is streamed <bkerensa> its grand ballroom f <nathwill> schweet <bkerensa> nathwill: my breakfast was shrimp omelets and croissants <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> bkerensa: shrimp after a night of drinking? <nathwill> dear god <bkerensa> and last night I stayed up till 1am drinking cheap beer and writing charms with all the juju folk <nathwill> any cool charms? <bkerensa> not really :P <nathwill> lol <bkerensa> not from me at least <nathwill> bkerensa: i had to reinstall 12.04, because my SSD went bad. :( <bkerensa> oh no <nathwill> but tonite i'm re-setting up my dev tools, and will probably be getting 2 charms submitted <bkerensa> yeah I hear SSD's are going bad quite often? <nathwill> bkerensa: apparently... i hadn't heard such a thing, but... #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-08 <nathwill> dun werkin. bbl <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> =o #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-09 <bkerensa> whats up tgm4883 <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> bkerensa, just debugging some mysql issues <tgm4883> having fun at UDS? <bkerensa> hey nathwill <bkerensa> nathwill: ping <bkerensa> hi sbeattie <sbeattie> hey bkerensa <sbeattie> enjoying UDS so far? <bkerensa> sbeattie: yes it has been enjoyable... lots of work items but still fun :) <bkerensa> sbeattie: are you here too? <sbeattie> yeah <nathwill> hey bkerensa <bkerensa> sbeattie: cool well would love to meet you before the end <bkerensa> nathwill: sup <nathwill> not much. got all those utilities updated for the new deps finally. <bkerensa> nathwill: they dropped fiber in for UDS and ripped out all the hotels infrastructure <bkerensa> so if I sit in the convention center area I am getting amazing speeds :) <nathwill> that is fantastic <nathwill> send 'em to my house when they're done packing up <bkerensa> nathwill: uhh so you should apply for membership btw :) <nathwill> :P <nathwill> yeah... i know <bkerensa> and next cycle it might be cool for you to apply to come here... I think it would be up your alley <nathwill> yeah i'm sure it is. <bkerensa> nathwill: I got you a android keychain at the google party <nathwill> bkerensa: thanks! i will throw it next to my powells bottle opener :D <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> so have the google people said anything about the Ubuntu for Android project? <bkerensa> no <bkerensa> the only google people who were really there were the Goobuntu people <bkerensa> and yes they still use Puppet <bkerensa> one of my cousins college buddies was here and he used to work at Yahoo and apparently is a Googler <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> he was only at Y for a year <nathwill> in what department? <bkerensa> Sysadmin for Search <bkerensa> and now he is a Engineer on the Goobuntu team <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> haha <bkerensa> big hop :P <nathwill> yeah, i bet he left when the MS deal came down <bkerensa> funny thing is he used Fedora when he was at Y <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> yeah. it's pretty popular <nathwill> there's an internal fedora mirror <bkerensa> but now he uses Goobuntu exclusively <nathwill> that the devs in india host <bkerensa> ;=d <bkerensa> the Edubuntu guy did a really good plenary <bkerensa> and I liked the plenary by Bdale Garbee <nathwill> yeah, edubuntu is a great project <nathwill> what'd Garbee do? <bkerensa> nathwill: well he spoke about HP's projects <nathwill> ah. ok. he an HP rep? or working with HP from the Canonical side? <nathwill> ack... think i just broke unity... <nathwill> brb <bkerensa> nathwill: he is their Linux Chief Architect <sbeattie> bkerensa: there's also a few ChromeOS people here. <bkerensa> sbeattie: oh yeah kees and others too <bkerensa> :D * bkerensa remembers the days of his chromebook * sbeattie was surprised that multcolib will loan out chromebooks for 2 hours * nathwill is also surprised * sbeattie falls over and calls it a semi-early night. <bkerensa> wow <bkerensa> sbeattie: hopefully you didnt fall over in the bar :) <nathwill> yeah... i've got to be heading to bed as well... <bkerensa> gnight <bkerensa> nathwill: peh <nathwill> have fun down there guys! see ya tomorrow <nathwill> :P * bkerensa has been rocking it till 2am daily <nathwill> early morning mang <bkerensa> and waking at 6am <bkerensa> yeah ^ <nathwill> and that is why you're tired <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> lol <bkerensa> bacon in morning though! <nathwill> the hell <bkerensa> uh huh <bkerensa> and shrimp omelletes <nathwill> so every time i try to install this damned EA game, my launcher gets stuck open <nathwill> and quits hiding <bkerensa> :P <nathwill> well that's just lovely <nathwill> ok. g'night all <bkerensa> its just a desktop file anyways <bkerensa> gnight <bkerensa> MarkDude: sup <MarkDude> Uh not much <MarkDude> So I heard that some folks were not stoked with the party <kees> it was ... <kees> weird <shirgall> nathwill: the software center is installing a bookmark to fire up your default browser and go to the game online (it's an online HTML5-based thing). If you have fiddled with your default browser settings in a weird way, like I have, you may have to make sure your browser is up before you click the launcher icon. <shirgall> nathwill: or is it that the launcher itself is getting hosed on install? <nathwill> yeah, the launcher itself is getting hosed <nathwill> it stops auto-hiding, and is missing the installer icon <shirgall> weird, I haven't seen that, definitely file a bug <nathwill> yeah, i shall be. gonna experiment with it some more when i get home. <shirgall> My autohide settings got reset when unity 5.10 was updated this week... might be that? In fact, I have some pieces of unity 5.12 now. <nathwill> so 5.10 is the official in-repos version, yeah? <nathwill> i mean... i went and tried toggling the autohide on and off while it was stuck <nathwill> and it wasn't making a difference <nathwill> i had to restart unity to get it to straighten out <shirgall> Weird, definitely file a bug <shirgall> I'm tracking ubuntu-updates, and what I'm getting is 5.10 although there's a couple of libs that went 5.12 <nathwill> interesting <nathwill> thought maybe you were tracking upstream nightly ppa or something <shirgall> not anymore, before 12.04 was GA I was tracking the pre-release PPA <shirgall> At some point I'm going to change a machine to track proposed, but I usually wait a couple weeks after UDS before I turn that on :) <nathwill> yeeeep <nathwill> i'm gonna start running +1, but i've decided to wait until the alpha release * nathwill yawns <nathwill> Ubuntu Hour tomorrow in Beaverton. anybody coming? #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-10 <bkerensa> nathwill: I submitted a nyancat charm for the uds contest <nathwill> LOL <Brian_H> nathwill: where is the ubuntu hour and what time? <Brian_H> or is there a link I should be looking to? <nathwill> brian_h, lemme get you the link <nathwill> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-or <nathwill> fyi, you can subscribe :) <nathwill> this system is so freaking nice... i want to use l.u.c as much as possible <Brian_H> hmm I think I am <Brian_H> I just get too many emails :p <Brian_H> it is on the way to my new house :) <Brian_H> just moved out to the west side of hillsboro <nathwill> sweet :) <nathwill> alright, driving home.. bbl <nathwill> sounds like i may see you there brian_h? <blkperl> slangasek: i think bug 934966 is a kernel issue, i found this https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/29276 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 934966 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity freezes system leaving hard restart as the only option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934966 <blkperl> even if unity crashed you would still be able to access ttys right? <bkerensa> x \x <bkerensa> `)`-,~ <bkerensa> /<"<\ <bkerensa> _. <bkerensa> ;=',_ <bkerensa> S" .--` <bkerensa> sS \__ <bkerensa> __.' 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L J .-;.-/ | \ .' / <bkerensa> J L`-J L____,.-'` | _.-' | <bkerensa> L J L J `` J | <bkerensa> J L | L J | <bkerensa> L J L \ L \ <bkerensa> | L ) _.'\ ) _.'\ <bkerensa> L \('` \ ('` \ <bkerensa> ) _.'\`-....' `-....' <bkerensa> ('` \ <bkerensa> `-.___/ #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-11 <nathwill> hey everybody <bkerensa> nathwill: hi <nathwill> bkerensa: ordered my n40l this morning :D <bkerensa> nathwill: cool they have a huge cluster of them here <bkerensa> :D * bkerensa disappears to the keysigning party then dinner <nathwill> oh yeah? nice <nathwill> alrighty, enjoy <nathwill> man, wifi here at ava is the pits <bkerensa> hi nathwill <nathwill> hey bkerensa <bkerensa> kees: this was the paste from caff http://paste.ubuntu.com/981097/ <kees> bkerensa: weird! <bkerensa> kees: Do I need to define a keyserver for caff and if so where? <kees> bkerensa: try adding "keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com" to your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file? <kees> bkerensa: you read my mind :) <kees> bkerensa: ah-ha, try ~/.caffrc instead: <kees> $CONFIG{'keyserver'}='keyserver.ubuntu.com'; <bkerensa> >.< <bkerensa> caff hates me <bkerensa> did both and still no go <kees> pastebin your .caffrc ? <kees> next you'll have to set up an mta to actually send the emails. :) <bkerensa> kees: I have one setup <bkerensa> kees: http://paste.ubuntu.com/981125/ <kees> bkerensa: okay, good. that's usually what gets hard to fix <bkerensa> Yeah I am using msmtp & msmtp-mta and did test mails so I know thats working :P <kees> bkerensa: and it still says it can't find the key? <bkerensa> kees: yep <bkerensa> same exact error <kees> hrm... what does "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E061E1F6" say? <bkerensa> kees: it pulls bilals key and says nothing change etc <bkerensa> :) * kees holds his face <kees> random... try 0xE061E1F6 ? <kees> I'm struggling to understand what could possibly be stopping caff from working :( <bkerensa> kees: with the normal --recv-keys that works but if I do caff 0xE061E1F6 then no go <nathwill> you must stand on your head and name the day of the discordian calendar while typing the commands <bkerensa> kees: I think Bilal helped me fix <bkerensa> he told me to remove ~/.caff/gnupghome completely and re-run caff with the keyids <nathwill> yaaay... apparently the juju guys realized that their docs are terrible and commissioned someone to fix them <kees> bkerensa: oh-ho! excellent. <bkerensa> kees: yeah but its prompting me for each key >.< <kees> bkerensa: right, you need to examine each fingerprint and decide if it's okay, say y/n then "save" at the end. * nathwill yawns <nathwill> coffee coffee coffee <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> nathwill: HP's VP of Cloud Sales is hooking me up with free HP Cloud indefinitely <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> niiice <nathwill> you should let him know that thanks to their agreement to certify ubuntu for proliant, they made a sale <bkerensa> ;p nathwill he isnt server sales <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> man my mini-fridge is stacked with cold beverages and booze <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: I get to have some 18 year aged rum tonight :D <nathwill> eew <bkerensa> nathwill: its the victory drink :) <nathwill> bkerensa: victory? <bkerensa> nathwill: :P idk Jorge Castro is hooking the Juju charmers team up with some private stock he has been sitting on <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> bkerensa: sweet <kees> bkerensa: hp could> nice! #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-12 <bkerensa> kees: yeah the guy said he would hook anyone up who doesnt work for a big company but that hacks on open source :) <kees> bkerensa: very very cool! <bkero> bkerensa: huh? <bkero> rum is it? <bkerensa> wow <bkerensa> =s my liquor is pickled by peruvian booze <bkerensa> liver* <bkerensa> bkero: Last Night - Pisco > Lots of Domestic Beer -> Cuban Liquor -> then I ended up far out in East Oakland <bkero> lol #ubuntu-us-or 2012-05-14 * bkerensa is back in PDX :) <bkerensa> now time to go find some grub <nathwill> hey everybody! <nibalizer> hai! <nathwill> hey nibalizer. just got back from the movies, i believe we have our monthly IRC meeting scheduled for tonite, has anyone kicked it off yet? <jvlb> not so's you'd notice <nathwill> alrighty then. let's get things started. i'll send Ben a text to remind him. i imagine he's pretty tired from his trip <nathwill> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Mon May 14 02:08:24 2012 UTC. The chair is nathwill. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired <nathwill> #meetingtopic Ubuntu Oregon Monthly IRC meeting for May 2012 <nathwill> ok. looks like no specific agenda items have been added to the wiki. does anyone have anything they want to discuss? <nathwill> ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda <nathwill> alrighty. :) i'll just mention a couple things going on, most of it's been mentioned on the mailing list before, but in case any one missed it. <blkperl> whens the next debian/ubuntu bug party? <nathwill> :) <nathwill> blkperl, i don't think anyone's started scheduling anything, but i'd definitely be interested. <nathwill> now that UDS is over, let's add that to our agenda, eh? <nathwill> #subtopic debian/ubuntu bug squashing party <blkperl> I can get a room at PSU if we want to have it there <nibalizer> yea lets do that <nathwill> perfect. i as just going to ask who'd hosted before. i think PSU is a great place to do it. <blkperl> nathwill: nibalizer and i can provide virtual machines as well <nathwill> blkperl: that sounds awesome. i should be able to do the same if more are needed. <nathwill> ok, so slangasek and kees i believe headed things up last time? <nathwill> or who steered the last one? <nathwill> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1454/detail/ <nathwill> there's the details for the last BSP we had <nathwill> so last time we focused on multiarch, bitesize, packaging bugs. <nathwill> and SRU verification. <nathwill> i would think that that would still be a great set of things to focus on... y'all agree? <blkperl> yep that sounds good <nathwill> alright. to make sure we can get the word out and get the biggest possible participation, how does early June sound? <nathwill> i'm thinking a Saturday is most likely to be a day that people are free. <blkperl> hmm just a second, it needs to be after PSU finals <nathwill> ok <nathwill> what's that schedule like? <nibalizer> prolly best to do june 16 or so <blkperl> yes june 16 <blkperl> or later <nathwill> ok. june 16 would be 3rd saturday. so maybe 16th, maybe 23rd. <blkperl> that sounds good <nathwill> let's do a followup on that on the mailing list so we can get broader input on availability. <nathwill> eh? <blkperl> yep <nathwill> great. that sounds like a good plan. <nathwill> anything else that we should address immediately on the topic of the next BSP? <nathwill> blkperl, i'm assuming it's relatively straightforward to get a room? <nibalizer> nathwill: yes <blkperl> nathwill: yep, we just need to know how many so we can get the correct room <blkperl> or a rough estimate :) <blkperl> which if people rsvp that will be fine <blkperl> also we have a room bigger than the puppetlabs area so we should be fine <nathwill> ok. thanks nibalizer. <nathwill> ok. sounds like we've got that dealt with as much as we can for the moment. you guys want to send the email asking for input on the preferred date, or should i? <nibalizer> we can provide wireless access, power, that stuff, food is allowed int he room but PSU won't pay for it <nathwill> yeah, i'll create the event on loco.ubuntu.com as soon as we get a date nailed, then people can start RSVP'ing. <nibalizer> nathwill: you should, i'm not even on the mailing list <nathwill> i'm thinking we'll collect input until Friday, if i send the mail tonite. <nathwill> ok. /msg nibalizer tsk tsk ;) <nathwill> lol <nathwill> anything else for BSP we need to figure out that isn't date dependent? <nibalizer> i've never done it before, so idunno <nathwill> ok. i can't think of anything, so let's call that covered for now. <nathwill> and we can follow up on the mailing list or in IRC throughout the week if anything else comes up. <nathwill> alright, next topic... <nathwill> #topic launchpad membership <nathwill> just a quick reminder in case you didn't get the mail... tracking membership on the wiki was really unwieldy, and loco council takes the membership in the loco-group to be more valid... so we've axed the membership list from the wiki <nathwill> if you haven't yet, please join the ~ubuntu-us-or group on launchpad <nathwill> #link https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-or <blkperl> done <nathwill> if you have any questions, feel free to message me or ben. <nathwill> thanks blkperl :) <nathwill> we're doing pretty well this year, just so y'all know in case you haven't seen it. we're currently 41 members strong, up 33% since december. <nathwill> so thank you all. it's been a super exciting year to be involved, and people are starting to realize that Ubuntu Oregon is a great team in the Ubuntu Community. let's keep the momentum going <nathwill> any questions on membership before we move to the next topic? <nathwill> as a related note, bkerensa has expressed interest in helping anyone interested in pursuing Ubuntu Membership. I'm looking at the list of things and will probably be applying sometime in the next few months. <nathwill> if you're interested, feel free to send Ben a mail for tips. <blkperl> what does Ubuntu Membership entail? <nathwill> Ubuntu Membership is effectively a recognition of ongoing contribution to the community. <nathwill> there's a lot of criteria they consider to be contribution, not strictly bugs/code/docs, etc... if you're active in the support community, these types of things make a difference too <nathwill> as far as benefits, Ubuntu Members can vote in the selection of Community Council's board, you get an @ubuntu.com email, and other misc perks <nathwill> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership) <blkperl> interesting <nathwill> yeah. i'm generally pretty skeptical of "belonging" to an organization, but from what i can tell, this is a genuinely mutually beneficial way to get more involved with the community <nathwill> alrighty... any other questions on launchpad/ubuntu membership? <nathwill> alright... <nathwill> 2 more quick things... <nathwill> #topic Ubuntu Hours <nathwill> so i went and hung out at Ava Roasteria in Beaverton last week <nathwill> and nobody showed. :( <nathwill> is Beaverton not convenient? I'm willing to move downtown if anyone is interested and has a location suggestion. <nathwill> ugh. <nathwill> silly wifi. <nibalizer> nathwill: persistent connection? <nathwill> yeaaah... <nathwill> i reorganized the hardware in our office, and i think i picked the wrong corner for the router. <nibalizer> :( <nathwill> lol. it gets better too... stupid wifi signal booster can't get a gps signal, so i need to go snag a 20 ft ethernet cable so i can move the booster closer to the window <nathwill> anyways... after the intro talk, i'd like to get some volunteers to do technology demos on anything they're interested in showing off <nathwill> whether that be puppet, lxc, whatever. <nathwill> even a standard LAMP session would be great. <nibalizer> nathwill: when is this? <nathwill> nibalizer. i want to have the overview this month, probably the last weekend. <nathwill> after that, maybe bi-weekly, or
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