#ubuntu-testing 2009-05-01 <Stupendoussteve> Wish I would have worked in the testing team before Jaunty released. X freezes in the Kubuntu Livecd if I drag any window (think it has to do with that transparency thing and the nv driver). Didn't even think to file a bug even though I noticed it in beta and it still persists >.< <davmor2> Morning all #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-03 <DJvRadio> hello? #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-04 <ara> morning all :) <eeejay> mornings <eeejay> ara: yo yo <eeejay> ara: we will need to work a bit on the pidgin suite to make it more symmetric (ie. minimal/no duplication for all the tests across protocols) <ara> eeejay: sure, wednesday? I am sprinting in London now <eeejay> ara: oh cool. yeah, sure <ara> eeejay_givingup: congrats on the accerciser release ;) <ara> eeejay_givingup: how did you get (keyboard shortcut) an application focused in the accerciser tree? <eeejay_givingup> ara: ctr+alt+/ <eeejay_givingup> ara: look in preferences for keyboard bindings <ara> eeejay_givingup: thanks ;-) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-05 <davmor2> Morning All <ara> morning <eeejay> morning ara <ara> hey eeejay <ara> eeejay: I may have some time this morning to work on the pidgin test <eeejay> ara: excellent <eeejay> ara: do you mind if i got ahead and merge dx to trunk? <ara> eeejay: go ahead, it is only new classes and new scripts. no "real" merging :) <eeejay> ara: exactly! <eeejay> ara: but as for pidgin, i think we might need to add the possibility to have params on the suite level, not just the case level <ara> eeejay: what for? <eeejay> ara: for example: <suite blah blah><params><protocol>MSN</protocol>... <eeejay> ara: because the open() function in pidgin signs in the user and the buddy <ara> eeejay: mmm, true. maybe it shouldn't. maybe it should just open the application (no signing on) and then use a login method at the testcase level <eeejay> ara: the problem would be that you sign out/in on every case <eeejay> ara: my internet here is too slow for that :) <ara> eeejay: hehehe <ara> eeejay: yes, that's true. we might need that then. also, it is more flexible. if you came up with a case, some others might come up in the future <eeejay> ara: the other option is to have a very basic subclass, PidginMsn.protocol = "MSN" <ara> eeejay: I think having parameters on the testsuite level is better option <eeejay> ara: yup, so that is less trivial, i'll do it now in my branch. it should take a few minutes <davmor2> eeejay: I just read your blog post is the change in backend so apps that don't support at-spi work? <eeejay> davmor2: hah, nope. <davmor2> eeejay: What is the benefit of it then? <eeejay> davmor2: sounder design, and it will be a hopefully automatic transition when GNOME 3.0 comes in <eeejay> davmor2: ldtp uses some deprecated libraries, and it has grown a lot over the years <davmor2> eeejay: Ah okay. #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-06 <ara> eeejay: I have merged your changes and jcollado's (resolving a small conflict in between) back to bzr branch lp:~udt-contributors/ubuntu-desktop-testing/test-suite-class Could you adapt the dx stuff to the new class structure before merging back to trunk? <eeejay> ara: what changes did i make? <eeejay> ara: dx is in trunk! <eeejay> ara: you mean fix it in test-suite-class? <ara> eeejay: yes, yes, but before we merge test-suite-class branch in trunk, dx stuff should be adapt to the new class structure <ara> yes <eeejay> ara: np <ara> eeejay: thanks :) <eeejay> ara: you don't run into an ImportError with "utils"? <eeejay> ara: I just fixed it, but maybe you did too in a local copy <ara> eeejay: where exactly? when importing which module? <eeejay> ara application.gnome <eeejay> ara: maybe it is because you use setup.py? I just ran it in-place <eeejay> ara: ok, the branch is updated with working DX tests too <ara> eeejay: thanks. I will try to update the documentation today <davmor2> morning everybody <ara> davmor2: hey! * ara -> lunch * ara takes a break until the qa meeting #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-07 <davmor2> Morning all <thekorn> good morning davmor2 <eeejay> jcollado1: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-desktop-testing/ <jcollado1> eeejay: Thanks. That's interesting <eeejay> jcollado1: i played last night with git-bzr, it is pretty simple <eeejay> jcollado1: the tricky part will be to make GNOME the parent branch <eeejay> in merges <jcollado1> eeejay: I see <jcollado1> eeejay: At least if we get rid of SVN, that makes things easier <eeejay> jcollado1: yup :) <thekorn> maybe my 0.5cents this discussion: why not splitting this project into three ones: desktop-testing, gnome-tests and ubuntu-tests and give all of these projects one VCS <thekorn> desktop-testing has all the framework etc, <thekorn> and gnome-/ubuntu- testing are plugins which contains the wrappers and tests <thekorn> and then you can of course define other plugins like kubuntu-tests or maybe mypetapplication-tests <nagappan> I have a dual monitor, with Ubunut 9.10, I 'm unable to have a new bottom panel on the second monitor, even I tried creating one on the first monitor and tried drag and drop, it doesn't work <nagappan> is this a known issue ? <fader|lunch> nagappan: You'll probably get more help in #ubuntu... this channel is used to coordinate testing and is pretty dead right now, whereas #ubuntu is full of many helpful people :) <nagappan> fader, sure, thanks :) <fader> No problem :) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-08 <opoftheuniverse> hi <davmor2> hello #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-10 <bgamari> How many folks actually run Karmic presently? <Rocket2DMn> i do, but not on a machine i need to be stable <hggdh> I do <hggdh> bgamari, but to answer your question: only a few, most probably, right now. It is still too soon to risk it, unless you are willing to put up with the pains of potential serious problems <hggdh> ideally you should run it on a test machine or a VM <bgamari> Alright, I'm thinking of switching from Fedora to Ubuntu <bgamari> I'm currently running Rawhide which has been pretty stable <raymondjtoth> can i test the new 9.10 <raymondjtoth> i want to help make ubuntu better each time <raymondjtoth> and how i join the offical testing team <raymondjtoth> hi any one here' <raymondjtoth> can help me a sec im new here <raymondjtoth> dead room <hggdh> oh, the haste #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-11 <ara> good morning all :) <stgraber> yeah, european time again :) (for 3 weeks) <davmor2> morning stgraber <stgraber> morning davmor2 <davmor2> stgraber: what is it a fortnights holiday and then uds? <stgraber> yeah, 2 weeks in Swizterland, then Barcelona <davmor2> stgraber: see you there :) <stgraber> yeah, finally :) <xivulon> hi all, I would like to have a new release of wubi in 9.04 which fixes some localization issues that emerged post release <xivulon> that will affect the stand-alone download, but so far there wasn't any widespread testing for the modified codebase <xivulon> the relevant bugs are https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/ bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY <xivulon> A build is available at http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/wubi/karmic/wubi-r134.exe * ara -> lunch <cgregan> cr3: ping <cr3> cgregan: pong #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-12 <swoody> Hi everybody :) <swoody> Does anyone know if the laptop testing team is still active? <VK7HSE> swoody: Good question! as I'm still awaiting a response from the Eee team! <swoody> VK7HSE-> ah, I see... hmm... it seems nobody's really on #ubuntu-laptop, and the latest I read on the laptop reviews it still said "Jaunty Alpha" so I'm not sure <VK7HSE> Hmm... yeah me thinks that these things peak during the early stages then fall off! <swoody> haha, well that probably is true <VK7HSE> I'm possibly on the wrong IRC for the Eee stuff as wel! <ara> good morning :) <rebel52> how can i test 9.10 packages? <davmor2> Hello everybody <davmor2> heno: How's things? <heno> hey davmor2 * ara -> lunch <cr3> eeejay: hi there <eeejay> yo cr3 :) <ara> summertime is starting in Spain, uh? it is clear, hot and sunny hear in Malaga :) <fader> ara: Can you promise us good weather for the next couple of weeks? <ara> I cannot promise, but it looks promising ;-) <fader> :) <davmor2> fader: why do you care you'll be stuck inside a hotel for days on end ;) <fader> davmor2: I thought that was just the cover story we were telling everyone so they didn't realize it was all lounging on the beach all day :( <davmor2> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......................... you get the picture :) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-13 <ara> morning all :) <ara> buenos dÃ­as jcollado <jcollado> Buenos dÃ­as ara <davmor2> Morning all <ara> morning davmor2 :) * ara -> lunch <davmor2> cgregan: how's sunny, sunny boston? <cgregan> davmor2: nice! A little cold still, but we are getting there. Plan to work from the garden today <davmor2> I thought you worked at the lex office or is this just an excuse to skive off <fader> davmor2: I think he's lying to you -- everyone knows you can't have a garden in Boston. Plants are those things we see in books and in supermarkets. <fader> Supposedly they grow in some sort of mythical layer of material you find if you dig under the snow enough. :) <cgregan> davmor2: hehe....Lex office is closed for renovation so we are all home <davmor2> fader: No they's the things on TV on the gardening shows surely <cgregan> fader: you've got me....I have a plastic plant in the window of my home office which overlooks a railway depot! ;-) <davmor2> Hmm Nice..... <fader> cgregan: Ah, must be nice to live close to the T :) <davmor2> From my window I see steam trains, trains, tops of trees, birds etc etc etc etc etc * fader tries to figure out if this is 'birds' in the British slang sense or not. <davmor2> No, things with wings (look to the sky and not the gutter) <cgregan> hehe <ara> eeejay: hey hey <eeejay> ara: yo yo <ara> eeejay: don't worry, I answered the question myself :D <eeejay> ara: i will stop holding my breath :) <ara> eeejay: hehehehe <charlie-tca> Can we get xubuntu images turned on in the qa tracker? <davmor2> charlie-tca: that's down to pitti or cjwatson_ if they are incharge of the builds <cjwatson> I'll have a look in a moment <valya> Hello, i'm having trouble with ubuntu 9.04 desktop install. My laptop overheats and reboots during installation. There was no such problem with previous release (8.??). I'm tried to find module "thermal" and remove it but there is no such module. Can someone suggest solution? <davmor2> valya: ubuntu will probably be better for this <valya> thanks <davmor2> sorry #ubuntu <cjwatson> charlie-tca: done <charlie-tca> Thanks again #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-14 <charlie-tca> bug 376300 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376300 in debian-installer "debian-installer crashed on "Select and Install Software" [Karmic]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376300 <charlie-tca> Can't complete a auto-resize installation using Xubuntu karmic alternate cd <charlie-tca> This only fails on hardware. It works when using VirtualBox <ara> good morning all :) <davmor2> Morning All * gnarl wave to apw <ara> eeejay: hello <eeejay> hi ara <ara> eeejay: I have a question regarding notify-osd tests <eeejay> ara: FYI those tests: if you erase the png files new oracles will be written in their place <ara> eeejay: I know, I know, it wasn't that <ara> eeejay: nice try :D <eeejay> ara: ok :) <ara> eeejay: when a testcase fails, the tmp screenshot taken to compare, is deleted automatically and, therefore, the teardown method fails (it tries to delete a screenshot already deleted) <eeejay> ara: you mean, it is moved to the log directory, no? <eeejay> ara: ie. before the teardown <ara> eeejay: no, no * eeejay looks <ara> eeejay: it looks like it is the garbage collector or something <ara> because it is deleted when the assertionexception is raised <ara> eeejay: I filed a bug yesterday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-testing/+bug/376057 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376057 in ubuntu-desktop-testing "notify-osd test: if the screenshot comparison fails, the teardown method fails" [High,Triaged] <ara> eeejay: but I don't see where it is deleted. (it could be possible that the file that returns ldtputils.imagecapture remains opened?) <eeejay> ara: that is what i was saying: it is moved, ubuntu-desktop-test:347 <ara> eeejay: let me check <ara> eeejay: no, that's the screenshot for the log file <eeejay> ara: i think the right fix is to put the remove() in close() in a try/except. because in some cases the screenshot exists <ara> eeejay: the one I am saying is the one that is created in deskex.NotifyOSD.grab_image_and_wait <eeejay> ara: look at line 370, it takes the path of the screenshot from the exception instance <ara> eeejay: they are different screenshots <eeejay> ara: right, if there is a mismatch, an assertion is raised, and the screenshot is the second argument <ara> eeejay: aaah <ara> eeejay: you use the one already taken, rather than a new one <ara> eeejay: now it makes sense :) <ara> eeejay: thanks :9 <eeejay> ara: exactly, and we need to, because if we take one at exception time, the bubble is already gone <ara> eeejay: apart of that, have you seen the messages nagappan left you at #ldtp? <ara> (he asked me to ping you) <eeejay> ara: yeah, i didn't understand it. is there something in LDTPv1 that can't be done in LDTPv2? <ara> eeejay: I think that what he meant, is that bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578640 have to be taken into account when designing/developing ldtpv2 <ubot4> Gnome bug 578640 in ldtp "Provide a means to get the pyatspi Accessible from an LDTP expression" [Normal,New] * ara -> lunch <ara> eeejay: hey hey <fatmike> hi there <davmor2> hello #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-15 <ara> jcollado: hey <jcollado> ara: Hola <davmor2> Morning All <ara> jcollado: I am starting to add evolution to the ubuntu-desktop-framework, I have seen that you asked about evolution tsets in the evolution mailing list. Have you worked further on this? (just asking to avoid duplicating efforts) <ara> morning davmor2 <jcollado> ara: I didn't start with that, but I would be happy to collaborate <ara> jcollado: nice, I will start today. As soon as I have something working, I will push a branch so you can add stuff there :) <jcollado> ara: Ok, thanks. <ara> jcollado: btw, you didn't receive any reply about the existing tests, did you? <jcollado> ara: No. It seems that the contents of that web page was only a plan, but no code has been written at all #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-16 <van> salut <van> j'ai installÃ© karmic mais malheureusement Ã§a a pas l'air de fonctionner avec ma carte graphique, Ã©cran noir aprÃ¨s le login c'est dommage #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-17 <ethan_> hi * ethan_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-testing to: test * ethan_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-testing to: Ubuntu Testing * ethan_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-testing to: Testing of Ubuntu | Please join us in the Ubuntu Testing Day! Test the installers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090413 | Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing | Reports: http://qa.ubuntu.com <ethan_> hi <ethan_> Im getting ready to tet Ubuntu 9.10 <ethan_> test #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-18 <eeejay> howdy cr3, are you around? <cr3> eeejay: yep, you're early <eeejay> cr3, hah. i guess. is there a way to run checkbox-certification from the checkout dir? <eeejay> cr3, it looks for config files in the system prefix <cr3> eeejay: sudo PYTHONPATH=../../checkbox/trunk CHECKBOX_DATA=. CHECKBOX_SHARE=../../checkbox/trunk CHECKBOX_COMPATIBILITY_SHARE=../../checkbox-compatibility/trunk ./bin/checkbox-certification-cli <eeejay> cr3, oh boys.. thanks <cr3> eeejay: quite a bit of environment to setup but please let me know if you can think of a better way to make checkbox-certification aware of all it needs to know <cr3> eeejay: of course, I'm assuming you can figure out the paths to checkbox and checkbox-compatibility :) <eeejay> cr3, ah, so i need checkbox too... duh <cr3> eeejay: not necessarilly but, if you're going to work from the trunk of checkbox-compatibility, I would recommend you also work from the trunk of checkbox :) <eeejay> cr3, yeah. i figure the same. it had to be an ungodly hour wherever you are <cr3> eeejay: they're all in heavy development and I'm more concerned with looking forward (in making the project awesome) than looking backward (in terms of compatibility), so that should give you an idea of my level of wrecklessness <cr3> eeejay: yeah, at this crazy hour, you don't want to be asking me questions like what I'm wearing <eeejay> cr3: i won't! <cr3> eeejay: cool, so you're safe then. just thought you should know before it's too late :) <eeejay> :) <cr3> cheerio, I gots to go offline know. not sure when I'll be back, so see you around <ara> good morning :) <ara> thekorn: hello :) <davmor2> Morning all <ara> morning davmor2 <thekorn> hi ara and davmor2 <ara> thekorn: hey, how are you doing? I was wondering if you have had the time to merge your changes (buildout+file reorg) into trunk (in ubuntu-desktop-testing) <thekorn> ara, I'm fine, thanks for asking. sorry, I somehow missed the fact that all other pending tasks are done <thekorn> sorry for the delay <ara> thekorn: no worries :) <thekorn> I will have a look at it over lunch time today <ara> thanks! <thekorn> thank you for the reminder <ara> thekorn: thanks to you for your efforts! <davmor2> morning thekorn <eeejay> howdy schwuk, are you around <schwuk> eeejay: You still need me? <eeejay> hey schwuk, i was wondering where the udt/checkbox integration you did go. is it in trunk? <ara> eeejay: hey, do you think we could meet at UDS to try to merge and consolidate our pidgin test changes? <eeejay> ara: yup <ara> eeejay: cool :) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-19 <ara> good morning all :) <jpds> Morning. <ara> jpds: morning <ara> jcollado: buenas :) <jcollado> ara: Hola <jcollado> ara: Â¿Maleta preparada? <ara> jcollado: en ello estoy <jpds> jcollado: Oh please don't remind me. <jpds> Err, too late! <eeejay> hi ara <ara> hey eeejay <eeejay> ara: at the all hands? <ara> not yet, leaving at lunch time <eeejay> ara: how patient would you be with me if i proposed further framework changes? <ara> eeejay: hehehee <eeejay> ara: ah, have fun <ara> eeejay: thanks <ara> eeejay: well, it is not my framework anymore, it is a gnome/ubuntu-desktop-testing community framework :-) <eeejay> ara: i can't find dave's checkbox integration work. do you know where it is? is it still relevant? <ara> ask the list :) <ara> eeejay: mmm <eeejay> ara: very diplomatic :) <ara> eeejay: I will ping him at all hands about the integration <eeejay> i almost talked to him yesterday, but i missed him <eeejay> ara: in any case, since the framework changed a lot, it probably needs to be redone, it would be nice though to see how he did it <ara> eeejay: yes, definitely <eeejay> thekorn: hello? <thekorn> hi eeejay <eeejay> thekorn: hey, i just figured it out: your buildout branch is not merged yet... <thekorn> eeejay, yes, ara already reminded me on this yesterday, I hoped to work on it yesterday, but I#m not done with it yet, <thekorn> because of the recent huge changes <eeejay> thekorn: just trying to figure out how to use udt from a different working directory <thekorn> I hope to finish with it today <thekorn> yes, this is easy when we use buildout <thekorn> I hope I'm not blocking your work ;) <eeejay> thekorn: ah cool. i have no idea what buildout is/does. but i just understood that it would help :_ <eeejay> thekorn: i don't know! <eeejay> thekorn: does your branch solve the problem of finding suite files that are not under the current directory? <thekorn> eeejay, yes `/boo/bar/ubuntu-test -a gedit` will work <thekorn> or what do you mean <eeejay> thekorn: yeah, where gedit is in '/another/random/dir'? * eeejay downloads thekorn's branch <thekorn> eeejay, hmm, I'm not sure about it, I think the path to the suites is hardcoded, <thekorn> but I might be wrong, dont't have the code here right now <eeejay> thekorn: ah, ok. so i will add an environment variable <thekorn> yes, this would be good <eeejay> that was easy, one line.. <longcat> Is this the place to talk about issues running karmic (specifcally issues with .30-5 <davmor2> longcat: you might want to try #ubuntu+1 <longcat> ok thanks #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-20 <ethan_> hi <davmor2> Morning All <davmor2> cgregan1: how's Spain Dude? <cgregan1> davmor2: busy <davmor2> Not as busy as next week by the sound of things :) <cgregan1> davmor2: the sessions are really interesting....history of the Ubuntu installer now. <davmor2> If Colin is doing the talk tell him I'm long distance heckling :D #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-21 <davmor2> Morning all :) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-24 <scream> Where do I access the alpha for this http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting <scream> ? #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-26 <bilboed-pi> anyone knows if there's a UDS channel ? <persia> bilboed-pi, #ubuntu-devel-summit <bilboed-pi> yah, just found it :) <bilboed-pi> thx <ara> eeejay: room 13th is free at 5pm, see you there for some pidgin tests hacking? #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-28 <marti1125> hello/Hola <marti1125> ï»¿my first time in thi room <marti1125> hello <picklesworth> quick question: Does anyone else find that vi behaves wrong when you start pressing arrow keys in edit mode? (It's throwing in As and Ds followed by newlines... and it's doing this on two different computers!) #ubuntu-testing 2009-05-29 <nags> on which channel I can ask questions about launchpad ? <nags> found it <nags> #launchpad #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-03 <paulorrrr> login live cd 10.04 please <tgm4883> paulorrrr, what? <paulorrrr> y not can star live cd login...... <paulorrrr> what de login to start live cd <tgm4883> the live cd should automatically login <tgm4883> you are probably looking for #ubuntu anyway <ara> good morning! <czajkowski> c <jpds> d <iflema> e #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-04 <ara> morning! <davmor2> morning all <ara> morning davmor2! <ara> davmor2, how is everything going? <davmor2> ara: been on holiday till today so that was nice :D Now back to work and near 3000 emails not so nice <ara> davmor2, :) <30BAAK162> fourth be with you! <davmor2> morning fader_ cr3 <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-05 <mathben> l/quit <davmor2> morning all <davmor2> morning fader_ you not at somehands then slacker ;) <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude <czajkowski> c <davmor2> czajkowski: you okay typing random letters into channels? <czajkowski> davmor2: shh <davmor2> czajkowski: see more random letters you okay? <czajkowski> davmor2: I see you're back to your usual charming self now that I'm no longer in the UK to go and wallop you <davmor2> of course :D <fader_> czajkowski: I'll hold him down while you hit him :) <czajkowski> fader_: deal! #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-06 <davmor2> morning all <persia> So, regarding SRU validation: There's a reporter in #ubuntu-bugs that says that upgrade for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/508173 renders GPT hardware unbootable. <ubot4> Launchpad bug 508173 in grub2 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "postinst has errors with grub-probe that cause the system to stop booting (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Fix released] <persia> Could anyone remind me how we're supposed to respond? This mostly affects Apple hardware, but there's bundles of that around. <sbeattie> persia: mark the bug as verification-failed, have the reporter open a new bug about the regression and refer to the regression bug report in a followup comment to 508173 <persia> So, the reporter is having a bit of trouble opening a new bug using any automation. Do we care? <persia> Should it be an unautomated bug? <persia> Also, do we know any regular testers with Apple hardware that could do verification testing? I worry that we may want to take some significant action to avoid making Ubuntu not work there. <sbeattie> an automated bug would be preferred, but an unautomated bug is fine. <persia> OK, cool. Unfortunately, this sort of hardware can't USB-boot, and the reporter doesn't have a blank CD about. <sbeattie> Bugger, looks like the update made it out of SRU, and into -updates? <persia> So there's no means to get back into Ubuntu until a shop can get visited, or there's some grub manipulation tool that can run inside OS X. <persia> Unfortunately. <persia> I'm not sure we test GPT heavily. * sbeattie doesn't know what GPT is. <persia> It's "GUID Partition Table", used on many EFI-booting systems. <persia> EFI is the Extensible Firmware Interface. GUID might be Globally Unique Identifier, but that doesn't make sense to me. <persia> Anyway, it's how Apple Intel machines get partitioned, rather than using a DOS disklabel. <persia> So testing would involve a (newer) Mac <persia> (but note that at least some newer Macs have issues getting installed, making this tricky) <sbeattie> Does our installer support EFI/GPT? <sbeattie> virtualbox-ose claims to support EFI booting, and the next version coming is supposedly going to support OSX installs. <sbeattie> (just wondering if virtualbox can be used as an accurate test environment) <persia> It kinda does, for some sorts of installs. <persia> At least for my hardware, default selections for desktop works and default selections for server fails. <persia> But I think mine differs from lots of stuff out there, or there would be more complaints, as default selections for desktop failed prior to Beta2 in lucid. <persia> (and my hardware is very new) <persia> sbeattie: I think I've gotten 508173 in the right state. Could you confirm? <sbeattie> persia: yeah, looks okay. Probably best to get cjwatson looking at bug 576662 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 576662 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "latest grub2 renders gpt based system unbootable (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576662 <persia> Bad time-of-day, and even time-of-year (elections/UDS), but yeah. #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-07 <davmor2> morning all #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-10 <ara> hey jtatum, I will see you at the QA roundtable, but if you see me around in the coffee break, say hello :) <jtatum> hi ara :) ok see you there <ara> jtatum, hope you're not too jet lagged :) <jtatum> not too bad :) plus really excited :) <komputes> ara: can you put this up: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Hardware #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-11 <sicksquirrel5> hi all <sicksquirrel5> can anyone tell me how stable 10.04 is compared to 9.04 ? I want to build a workstation for rendering / composition <sicksquirrel6> anyone there? <sicksquirrel6> maybe some experienced ubuntu user <davmor2> morning all <fader_> davmor2: 'bout time you woke up :P <davmor2> fader_: been awake for a while kicking my server around the room #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-12 <kmai> howdy <Guest30277> my name is kevin and I'm looking forward to joining ubuntu testing team <kmai> what's the best testing type you'd recommend for someone with limited bandwidth? <kmai> anyone? <davmor2> morning all <davmor2> fader_: Are you chief scribe again? <ara> davmor2, always! <ara> :) <davmor2> ara: nice to know he is useful for something ;) * ara hugs fader_ for volunteering in almost every session <davmor2> ara: that's not volunteering, he just figures he doesn't have to participate if he is too bust writing stuff :D <davmor2> busy even <fader_> davmor2: You figured out my secret <davmor2> fader_: it's not hard if you look at it through the eyes of what need least work and can be done hungover :D <fader_> davmor2: Heh, you got me totally figured out :P <davmor2> :D #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-13 <davmor2> morning all <davmor2> morning fader_ you slacker <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude, what's shakin'? <davmor2> fader_: my fists at my server that still isn't working right <fader_> davmor2: Heh :) <davmor2> fader_: if you haven't done it install xchat indicator :D <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, I had that previously but reinstalled my netbook and haven't put it back on #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-14 <davmor2> morning all <jtatum> hi davmor2 #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-15 * Drogba Discounts!! 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Laptop Sony VAIOÂ® VGN-FW590FFD-575,57$!!!Apple MacBookÂ® Air MC234LL/A-695,27$!!! http://www.elplace.com/ #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-16 <Claudinux_> hi all, could someone tell me if there are known issue on the request of a new password on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com <Claudinux_> i don't receive the mail #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-17 <davmor2> morning all <mvo> hey, is there anyone familiar with mago who could help me? it seems like the wiki is not entriely up to date #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-18 <ara> good morning all! <ara> morning davmor2 <davmor2> morning ara and all #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-19 <davmor2> afternoon ara, morning fader_ cr3 how's life treating everyone? <ara> hey davmor2, doing good, yourself? <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude <davmor2> ara: okay thanks <davmor2> cr3: I see'd you on the FPS version of UDS <cr3> davmor2: just don't gimp a moustache on me <davmor2> cr3: you already had one dude <cr3> davmor2: ok, so don't erase it then :) <davmor2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxg2gjK4lHE <cr3> davmor2: the video certainly captured my usual good mood :) * cr3 coughs <davmor2> cr3: Yes whatever you say dude ;) #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-20 <yaxomoxay> how do you install 10.10 packages? I noticed some bugs for 10.10 are already on launchpad <ara> morning all <davmor2> morning all <ara> morning davmor2 <davmor2> morning fader_ cr3 hows life the wrong side of the pond? <fader_> davmor2: Not bad... how's your rainy island? <davmor2> fader_: scorching hot thanks 22c #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-21 <davmor2> morning all <ara> morning davmor2! <ara> davmor2, how is it going? <davmor2> ara: fine thanks nice hot sunny day stuck inside working <ara> davmor2, :D <ara> davmor2, you can have lunch alfresco <davmor2> no I can't by the time I get lunch together get somewhere that has grass and get back again I'll have no time to eat <ara> :) <davmor2> I'm in a block of flats #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-24 <ara> morning all! * ara -> lunch <phillw> anyone got a date for the 1st spin of the meerkat alpha1 iso (the rc version / daily build)? <hggdh> phillw: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule <phillw> hggdh: i am quite familiar with that post, it's part of http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385 and before that on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=377 It does not, however, say when the rc of a1 will be released. I started lucid with the rc of 10.04a1 and would like to do so for 10.10 <phillw> i have a the partition ready, just want to know when i can start testing :-D #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-25 <sbeattie> phillw: last I heard (earlier today) was that the installer wasn't ready, but that that daily iso spins would be coming soon. <hggdh> phillw: ah, OK. I would expect first ISOs at about one week before alpha1 or so <phillw> sbeattie: once the daily isos start playing, i will paly. as my kit is bog standards, i tend to do the "does the iso install' checks :-) <sbeattie> phillw: excellent <phillw> i think it was about beta1 on 10.04 when it finally could checksum the cd correctly ;-) <phillw> have now learned how to do the md5 via command line on a cd <roxy1> r <ara> good morning all! <elopio> good morning ara :) <ara> morning elopio :) <elopio> ara, are these the tests that should be automated? http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ <ara> elopio, yes, those are good candidates <ara> elopio, but you can automate what you are interested in <elopio> ara, I'll play around with some nautilus tests. <ara> elopio, OK, I think that Jeff Lane (bladernr) is also working on Nautilus tests. You may want to coordinate with him <elopio> ara, ok. I'll write him. <ara> elopio, hi <davmor2> morning fader_ how's life <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude... not bad. You? <davmor2> cr3: morning dude <cr3> davmor2: top of the morning to you <davmor2> fader_: not too bad #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-26 <ara> good morning all! <elopio> good morning ara. <elopio> I'm not able to launch nautilus tests :( <ara> morning elopio <elopio> I get the error: The frm*-FileBrowser window was not found. <elopio> do you have any idea of what I'm missing? <ara> let me see <elopio> the script launches the nautilus screen, of course :). I can see it with the title "elopio - File Browser" <ara> what about looking for frm*FileBrowser? sometimes, dashes are problematic <elopio> ara, same result. <elopio> I even tried *File* <ara> elopio, let me try something. I'll get back to you <elopio> ara, thanks. <ara> elopio, did you receive my email about your gedit test? <elopio> ara, hum, I don't think so. <elopio> let me look for it. <ara> I sent it yesterday <ara> elopio, it is weird, the nautilus test works for me <ara> can you try this: go to a python console <ara> import ldtp <ara> ldtp.guiexist("frm*-FileBrowser") <ara> and check what it replies <elopio> ara: >>> ldtp.guiexist("frm*-FileBrowser") <elopio> 0 <ara> is the window open right now? <ara> opened <elopio> yes <ara> have you checked that accercisser can see it? <ara> do you have assistive technologies enabled? <ara> what do you get if you do in a python console: <elopio> ara, I have them enabled. I don't know what accercisser is, sorry :$ <ara> ldtp.getwindowlist() <ara> accerciser is a a11y browser, you can install it by apt-get install accerciser <elopio> ara: http://pastebin.org/282412 * elopio installing accerciser <elopio> ara, regarding the email, I didn't propose the merge to apply the suggestions. But then I thought it would be better to start a test from scratch. <elopio> after this nautilus test I'll get back to gedit, update test case documentation and propose the merge. <ara> elopio, ok, perfect <ara> elopio, nautilus window does not appear in the window list, this is strange. it might mean that nautilus didn't start the a11y information. so, so weird, <ara> if it does not show in the accerciser, you may want to restart the session and try again <elopio> ara, nop. It's not shown by accerciser. <elopio> I'll shut down the computer, go to sleep, and try again in the morning :) <elopio> thanks a lot. <ara> elopio, then, for some strange reason, it is not accessible <ara> accerciser is a good tool to check those things <ara> good night :) <davmor2> fader_, cr3 morning dudes <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude <ara> meeting reminder: join us at #ubuntu-meeting <czajkowski> http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/ vote for the world play day competition #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-27 <ara> mvo, one quick question on upgrades with cd <ara> may I? <mvo> hey ara <mvo> sure <mvo> sorry for the delay <ara> mvo, no worries, just a quick question: you can't perform upgrades with a Live CD, can you? <mvo> ara: that is normal (and unfortuante). only the alternative CD has debs and can do a upgrade <mvo> ara: however for maverick its planned to have upgrade via install and preserve /home <ara> mvo, nice! <ara> mvo, OK, thanks! #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-28 <ara> good morning! <davmor2> morning all <ara> morning davmor2 <ara> (an hour later...) <davmor2> ara: Hey don't worry I won't hold it against you honest <ara> davmor2, :) <ara> morning pedro_ <pedro_> good morning ara <primes2h> Good morning ara. <primes2h> I moved old reports to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Lucid and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Karmic <primes2h> and I updated the main page <ara> primes2h, and the Reports? <ara> primes2h, they look like they are still pointing to the same place <primes2h> ara: reports are still in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports <primes2h> because <primes2h> I saw that several people tested Karmic and Lucid, putting both tables in the same report. <primes2h> Is it worth to separate laptop report pages? <ara> primes2h, I think so, it may become confusing in the future otherwise <primes2h> ara: ok, so I'll split pages manually. <ara> primes2h, you can rename /Reports to /Lucid/Reports and it will move the subpages if you choose to <ara> then you can manually move only the karmic ones <ara> most of the work will be done for you :) <primes2h> ara: Sure, I also have to check each one about both releases reported in it. That's the reason why we need an automated tool ;-) <ara> primes2h, did you contact the developer behind the hug-day tool? <primes2h> ara: I'll do it later then I'll reply on ML. <primes2h> ara: not yet <primes2h> I have to do it. <primes2h> asap, obviously. <primes2h> brb <primes2h> ara: thanks <ara> primes2h, thanks to you <moustafaC> ara, fader_, davmor2: Good morning <davmor2> morning moustafa long tim now see <moustafa> davmor2: Yeah, I got two jobs, so I found myself with less time <davmor2> Yay congratulations <moustafa> davmor2: Thanks <moustafa> Although, from the looks of it, the Canonical job would have been more interestin/fun than one of my new jobs <ara> morning moustafa <moustafa> moning ara <moustafa> bah, I'll try again in a year or so. By then my Python chops would have improved <davmor2> hello fader_ cr3 <cr3> davmor2: hey dude, what's up in the wonderful world of isd? <davmor2> cr3: The sky the same as everywhere else ;) <davmor2> cr3: releases galore at the minute so busy busy <davmor2> cr3: how's the world of automation and certification? <cr3> davmor2: same ol', same ol' <moustafa> cr3: Hey dude! <cr3> moustafa: ahoy, matey! <moustafa> cr3: Yarrr! <moustafa> cr3: This reminds me: I went to a show yesterday, and there were pirates, zombies and dead hookers <moustafa> You would have loved it <davmor2> cr3: you did take away moustafa's drugs when he finished right? <moustafa> davmor2: Drugs? Ha! <cr3> davmor2: I'm his pusher, why would I take away my main source of revenue? <davmor2> cr3: I thought that was fader_ <moustafa> davmor2: We call them "croissants" <davmor2> moustafa: hahahah <moustafa> fader_ is cr3's boss <cr3> moustafa: I wish! <moustafa> cr3: I meant he's the supplier, wich technically makes him your boss <davmor2> cr3: Only so you had someone to blame, just blame him anyway, everyone else does ;) <cr3> moustafa: I'd feel more comfortable referring to fader as my macdaddy, but boss works too :) <moustafa> cr3: Macdaddy sounds like "the father of apple", and we don't want that here <cr3> macdaddy actually comes from "maquereau", a french expression to mean pimp. I don't know what that might say about mac users then :) <moustafa> cr3: I found a company that's less organized than Canonical, and it's a billion-worth name <moustafa> So, there's hope for Ubuntu :P <davmor2> cr3: They pimp macs don't they <moustafa> davmor2: Mac pimps pimp is to mac addicts. <davmor2> moustafa: and design teams /me wonders off whistling nonchalantly <moustafa> davmor2: I hope you're not targetting certain talented people working for a certain orange company that we love? * davmor2 looks at the sky and continues to whistle nonchalantly only louder * moustafa moustafa-lunch <moustafa-lunch> see you later <moustafa> that's some good whistling davmor2 <davmor2> moustafa: see so nonchalant I can keep it up all day <moustafa> davmor2: Unless I use this here Sonic Screwdriver <davmor2> no the tones would clash horribly #ubuntu-testing 2010-05-31 <primes2h> good morning ara <primes2h> :-) <ara> morning primes2h <primes2h> I moved old reports on /Karmic/Reports and Lucid/Reports. btw, there are two people that have left a signature but they never created a report about their laptop. I'm going to delete their entries... <primes2h> ara: I think it's all ok now. <ara> primes2h, thanks! <primes2h> I also added links to Karmic and Lucid reports on the main report page. <ara> primes2h, nice! <primes2h> ara: do you have other things you think should be added? <ara> primes2h, I think it looks good <xdatap> hello everybody <xdatap> ara, good evening <ara> xdatap, hello <xdatap> ara, newcomers in the Italian testing ML are facing difficulties in registering to the ISO Tracker. How can I help them? <ara> xdatap, what kind of difficulties? <xdatap> ara, they don't receive the welcome email <ara> xdatap, the ISO tracker was moved temporarily to a different server, that's maybe why <ara> xdatap, let me ask <xdatap> ara, thanks <ara> xdatap, it should be fixed now. Please, let me know if it does not work <xdatap> ara, thanks! <ara> xdatap, np #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-01 <patrickmw> anyone testing tonight? #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-02 <patrickmw> good morning, jibel <jibel> Hi patrickmw <ara> morning jibel <ara> jibel, did you reply to the guy that was asking about what happened with xorg testing? <ara> (RamÃ³n Rocha) <jibel> good morning ara, how are you today ? <jibel> ara, not yet. I'll do it this morning <ara> jibel, I am good, thanks <ara> jibel, who is scheduling qa sessions at uds this year? xdatap would like to propose a couple of them <jibel> ara, xdatap can propose sessions , I'll check with pgraner to schedule it. <xdatap> jibel, great. I will register a blueprint and I'll send you an email. Thanks in advance <xdatap> ara, thank you. See you in Budapest! :) <jibel> xdatap, Super. thanks! #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-03 <patrickmw> jibel, did you get a chance to look at texttest? <htorque> hello, everyone! is the "casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop" file on the CD image available online (or maybe it's generated during the image creation process)? <victorp> mdp #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-04 <primes2h> jibel: ping #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-05 <primes2h> jibel: ping <jibel> primes2h, pong <primes2h> Hey jibel. How are you? <jibel> primes2h, good. You ? <primes2h> jibel: Nice, thanks. :-) <jibel> Great :-) <primes2h> jibel: sorry for boring you about this, but when are you planning to update the tracker? natty has been released :-) <jibel> primes2h, I requested a publication, so hopefully within 48 hours <jibel> well less than 48 now <primes2h> jibel: nice! just for curiosity, who is in charge to do this? <primes2h> jibel: usually I mean. <jibel> primes2h, the IS does the updates, I don't have the privileges to modify the files on the server <primes2h> jibel: in this case IS stands for...? <jibel> primes2h, information system <jibel> :) <primes2h> jibel: D'ho! :-! <primes2h> :p #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-07 <Captainkrtek> hello #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-11 <highvoltage> ara: I finally saw you in budapest! <highvoltage> http://irc.jonathancarter.org/files/temp/ara.jpg <stgraber> :) <jhobbs> 5 <cr3> victorp: plans for tonight? <stojabreak> How can i set to performance mode in my Asus laptop ( Intel Core I7 1,60 ) , since kernel 502.619.2016 . it s slow :( <stojabreak> any applet ? <stojabreak> thanks !! #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-13 <newbie007> hi, I'm just starting with ldtp, can someone tell me how to find the labels? I'm trying to automate something in gimp. How can I determine the string I need for the button? Is there something like spy++ ? * newbie007 maybe appmap.. <jmv__> Hi I can't find the Natty updates history , that is : see which packages were updated when. <jmv__> either on my machine or on Internet ... #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-14 <hakimsheriff> Hey Guys #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-15 <jrr> upgrade to natty broke my dell inspiron 8600 badly - both boot text and X graphics fail spectacularly - shall I just file a bug with the best description I'm able? <jrr> I'm not sure what's wrong, but at least one problem is that ubuntu happily installs nvidia-current when the geforce go5200 is clearly not supported by it <jrr> hmm possibly related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/772207 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 772207 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "version 173.14.30 is buggy for GeForce FX 5200 (affects: 67) (heat: 326)" [Undecided,Confirmed] #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-16 <umass1993> I think I found a bug in the Ubuntu 11 installation <umass1993> I don't think it properly calls texhash <umass1993> I have Lyx installed and it wouldn't work properly until I did this manually after I upgraded from 10.10 <umass1993> thats just FYI #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-17 <xdatap1> hggdh, jibel : Hello! This morning I subscribed you two to a new blueprint. I hope you got the notification, in case not just let me know <hggdh> xdatap1: ciao! Yes, and thank you. <brendand> anyone know the time of the QA meeting tomorrow? #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-18 <jibel> qa meeting in 10mn on #ubuntu-quality #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-19 <akgraner> woo hoo a new team group to get involved in....yay! :-) <ara> morning all! #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-20 <jibel> charlie-tca, I'm updating the installation testcases for oneiric, will you have time to update the a11y one before alpha 1 (or maybe it's already ok, I haven't verified) ? <charlie-tca> jibel: it's completely broken for oneiric again <charlie-tca> might be alpha2 before we can make accessibility work in it #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-25 <hggdh> QA meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes <Exio> e,e #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-26 <czajkowski> aloha <jibel> morning czajkowski <czajkowski> jibel: ello <czajkowski> anyone able to triage a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mobile-broadband-provider-info/+bug/775001 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 775001 in mobile-broadband-provider-info (Ubuntu) "Settings incorrect for Vodafone 'Top up and go' (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] <jibel> czajkowski, what importance would you set ? <czajkowski> jibel: I dont know but just had someone poking me asking how to get it triaged and I thought to ask in here <jibel> czajkowski, np, #ubuntu-bugs is a more appropriate channel for bug triage, but I'll triage it. <czajkowski> jibel: thank you <jibel> czajkowski, yw <czajkowski> I didn't know <czajkowski> know for future :) <jibel> czajkowski, anyway, you'll always be welcome here if you want to help with testing. iso testing of Oneiric Alpha 1 is next week btw :-) <czajkowski> jibel: I'm still having issues with natty so I may wait :) <xdatap1> jibel, morning <czajkowski> xdatap1: Aloha <xdatap1> czajkowski, hey laura! :) <czajkowski> :) <czajkowski> long time no see hope you're keeping well! <jibel> Hey xdatap1 , how are you ? <xdatap1> jibel, i'm fine thanks <elopio> pedro_: hello. <elopio> pedro_: do you have some free time to talk in private? <pedro_> elopio, hola, yes i do #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-27 <phurl> hi all, <moed> hi buddies <moed> I have toshiba portege T210 <moed> installation is okay. but after I logged in, the GUI is freezed <moed> how can I resolve this issue? Thanks <moed> I use ubuntu 11.04 #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-29 <sagaci> hi, I'd like to get involved with that Ubuntu Friendly programme, testing my computer for Ubuntu compatibility. Where should I go to find out more? <wcchandler> sagaci: look up testdrive. It's a good starting point. <sagaci> that uses something like rsync to retrieve daily isos so it's not a huge 700MiB download each time, right? <sagaci> bandwidth is somewhat of a constraint unfortunately #ubuntu-testing 2011-05-30 <jibel> guillemhs, I'm unable to reproduce bug 789898 with alternate i386 20110530. Could you please verify that it is still an issue with today's iso ? <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 789898 in pkgsel (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu alternate 11.10 i386 crashes on installation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789898 <guillemhs> ok <jibel> guillemhs, if so please attach the file /var/log/syslog <guillemhs> let me sync <guillemhs> ok <guillemhs> jibel <guillemhs> testdrive only shows Ubuntu DVD iso <guillemhs> i use the cdimage repository <guillemhs> another thing, i tried ubuntu alternate i386 20110528 <jibel> guillemhs, I don't know how testdrive fetch the list of iso, I use dl-ubuntu-test-iso from ubuntu-qa-tools then virtualbox or qemu <guillemhs> ok, my mistake, i update testdrive <guillemhs> i am synching the iso <jibel> ok <guillemhs> jibel, alternate 20110530 iso installs properly <guillemhs> now it is rebooting <guillemhs> jibel, today's alternate iso is functional and it installs properly <jibel> guillemhs, \o/ that's good news. Thanks for the verification. <guillemhs> now i will try the apps <guillemhs> one thing, unity now it is able to be loaded in a VM <guillemhs> in natty i can load unity in my VMs <jibel> guillemhs, yes, that's one major feature of Oneiric. If the hw doesn't support 3D if falls back to unity-2d <guillemhs> nice <jibel> there's now a consistent user experience between unity and 2d fallback <guillemhs> it is a great idea <guillemhs> because some people do not have a great desktop pc <guillemhs> or laptop <guillemhs> and they want to use ubuntu as fluently as possible <chadadavis> Hi. Does someone know if the tracker will be reset for the alpha 1 ISO testing? (Thu is alpha 1, right?) <guillemhs> yes, qa iso tracker will be updated. I don't know when. jibel do you when the tracker will be updated? <jibel> chadadavis, guillemhs , I'll reset the tracker. The 1rst candidates should be published tomorrow. <charlie-tca> Do any images work today? Xubuntu fails for xfce4-notifyd, Kubuntu failed the desktop install, Ubuntu live cd still gets the same blue screen <cr3> charlie-tca: I could try kubuntu once I download it... <charlie-tca> I ran it in VBox, it won't install. I will file the bug, and post it here. <charlie-tca> I can try on hardware first, if needed, though? <cr3> charlie-tca: I was going to try it in kvm <charlie-tca> Okay, want me to wait, then? <charlie-tca> kubuntu amd64 desktop image <cr3> charlie-tca: download should take 7 minutes and install 10 minutes, so shouldn't be too long <cr3> charlie-tca: yep, that's what I'm downloading <charlie-tca> no problem <charlie-tca> scottk said hold off on the bug anyway <jibel> charlie-tca, I haven't try x/kubuntu but I confirm that bluescreen is still on Ubuntu desktop as the fix in Ubiquity has not been uploaded. <charlie-tca> Thanks <charlie-tca> you know me, got to see how many images I can make broken as early as possible. ;-) <guillemhs> charlie-tca, you can install ubuntu alternate i386 <guillemhs> 20110530 image <cr3> charlie-tca: I've started the installation of kubuntu-desktop and downloading kubuntu-alternate <guillemhs> full installation is possible in a vm <jibel> charlie-tca, the challenge is not really high with an Alpha 1 ;-) <charlie-tca> alternate should be working <charlie-tca> Ubuntu and Kubuntu alternate should install <guillemhs> charlie-tca, ubuntu 11.10 20110530 alternate i386 installs properly <charlie-tca> yes <charlie-tca> I know. That would be Ubuntu alternate image <guillemhs> yes it is <guillemhs> unity 2d is already functional in this iso <charlie-tca> Kubuntu alternate images worked yesterday, too <guillemhs> ok <charlie-tca> guillemhs: That is unity2d, then? <charlie-tca> It looked kinda okay <guillemhs> i installed it in a Vm <guillemhs> unity2d appears <guillemhs> not ubuntu classic <charlie-tca> Thanks for confirming that it is 2d. I wasn't sure what I was seeing there. <charlie-tca> Tomorrow I can burn cd's if images are working <guillemhs> one thing <guillemhs> networking is not working in the VM <guillemhs> in my VM, ubuntu does not find the eth0 device <jibel> guillemhs, network is working but not managed by network-manager. ifconfig should list the ethernet card and its address <guillemhs> ok, <guillemhs> thanks <jibel> but I don't know if it's a bug or a feature <jibel> I'll ask <guillemhs> networking works <guillemhs> it shows the wifi icon <guillemhs> ubuntu extras repository is down <guillemhs> jibel, ubuntu extras repository is down in 11.10 <guillemhs> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found <guillemhs> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found <jibel> I can't reproduce the network-manager bug with desktop amd64, I'll
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