#ubuntu-ie 2010-11-04 <mokmeister> evening all <czajkowski> aloha <mokmeister> Got a new Samsung Galaxy S yesterday <mokmeister> pretty cool! <mokmeister> My first time using Android, neat #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-05 <czajkowski> reminder for folks http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/23/the-business-value-of-open-source-software/ <tdr112> morning <slashtom> good morning <tdr112> hey slashtom , how are things <slashtom> grand, yourself? <tdr112> grand , a bit busy , <czajkowski> aloha #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-06 <tdr112> has anyone looked into this for our site Security Issue with ubuntu-drupal-theme <fagan> tdr112: whats the security issue? <fagan> by the way the ubuntu drupal theme isnt used by any of the ubuntu.com sites they are all on wordpress now <fagan> so that theme is community maintained <tdr112> it was an email sent out to the loco list <tdr112> a few days ago <fagan> Hmmm I dont remember it ill look at the archive <tdr112> the ubuntuie site still runs drupal <fagan> yeah I remembered that <fagan> tdr112: i cant find that email in the archive <fagan> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2010-November/thread.html <vpg> Sorry about the nick switching, just grouping this name to the main account #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-07 <Belserusk> Hey. #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-09 <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> hey <czajkowski> hows you <slashtom> grand, how's life in England? <czajkowski> good thanks <czajkowski> settling in well <czajkowski> few hiccups like trying to get a NI number has been entertaining <czajkowski> still house hunting <slashtom> in last company, when we hired a guy from poland it was fine... just waited a couple of months for the NI number <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> months is the issue <slashtom> you would probably also need to get onto HMRC and get your tax code sorted <czajkowski> nds <fagan> I got an internship :) <czajkowski> where.. <fagan> *guess* <fagan> all I have to do is get my collge to sign off on it <fagan> I asked Mark about it and he said ok <czajkowski> roflol <czajkowski> yer kidding <fagan> Ill be doing things with unity <czajkowski> ok <fagan> He was very cool about it all and he asked me a few questions and put me in touch with who I needed to talk to <czajkowski> that's nice <fagan> hows the job going czajkowski <czajkowski> good thanks <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> whats the link to the ie etherpad <tdr112> hey cztab <czajkowski> hows you <czajkowski> college going well <tdr112> yep , not too bad <czajkowski> excellent <tdr112> from what i read you had a good first day <ebel> yo yo <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> loving it <ebel> czajkowski: http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/ ? <czajkowski> thanks <tdr112> http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/ <tdr112> feck ebel got there before me <popey> congrats fagan <tdr112> fagan: will you be doing it from home ? <fagan> tdr112: yep <fagan> popey: thanks :) <tdr112> fagan: nice <fagan> tdr112: yeah im glad I dont have to move from carlow. Rent everywhere is rotten. I pay 65 a week in rent which is nothing <fagan> and home is comfortable <tdr112> can you stay there for the summer too <fagan> yeah and my landlord drops the rent too for the summer <fagan> by 5 euro <fagan> :) <tdr112> then your sorted <fagan> yeah so other than food its all profit <czajkowski> rent for summer in castletroy is â¬30 <fagan> holy crap thats cheap <czajkowski> yes <fagan> Well mine is 60 but I get UPC broadband and TV for free with it and bills too <czajkowski> rent during year is only â¬79 for a double room en suite in most places <fagan> during the summer <czajkowski> no <czajkowski> college year <fagan> I meant that as a continuation of my other sentance <czajkowski> yeah so is the 79 <ebel> fagan: there has been a massive property crash. loads of places to rent <fagan> yeah <ebel> tis great :) <fagan> it helps so much <ebel> anyways congrats on the internship <fagan> my landlord had to drop my rent twice the past 2 years <fagan> thanls ebel <ebel> fagan: you do stuff with this ubuntu app store thingie, yeah? <fagan> ebel: na im probably doing something with unity doing unit tests and bug fixing <ebel> any idea if/when you'll be able to charge for apps on it? <ebel> oh i don't mean for the internship, i saw your name on the app review board team list or something <czajkowski> ebel: there is one app in there at present you can buy <fagan> ebel: na all the app review board does is release small apps post release <fagan> ebel: the store is canonical itself there is no board or anything there <ebel> ah ok. <fagan> id say there is some % that they charge for putting apps in there <ebel> Can people sell apps on it? *ahem* Is it available to more than white prodestants? :P <fagan> ebel: you just have to talk to em who is again <fagan> hmmm * fagan checks <fagan> ebel: I cant find who it is but mpt can point you to who it is <fagan> they package it up and all for you too <ebel> Ah it's not urgent, i'm just curious. <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> whatcha up to ebel <ebel> Twould be cool to get some of the buzz for 'make millions on the iphone/android app store' for ubuntu. <fagan> I remember hearing that they are cool with you making a little program and charge a dollar for it <fagan> so they do allow all of those little things too <fagan> ebel: we had a load of sessions about getting that kind of thing going in the UDS <fagan> It would be really cool if there was some automated process like the android marketplace or the app store <fagan> but its not there yet <czajkowski> so anyone going to the mark talk next week in dublin <tdr112> yep <ebel> You'd need an apt repo that people needed to put passwords into (possible with http://username:djennings@example.org/...) <fagan> I didnt even have a clue that it was on <tdr112> ebel: have we any cd left that i could bring along <ebel> then a serve side system to manage payments & uploads <ebel> tdr112: yeah we have ~ 15 left <ebel> czajkowski: can't go, work :P <ebel> :( <tdr112> i could bring them and that stand you left in tog <tdr112> maybe <fagan> ebel: well the payments and uploads thing would be handled just like the android store id say where everything is uploaded and if its bad flag it and ban the author <fagan> the payment system is ubuntu pay which is up now <fagan> but its very bad <czajkowski> fagan: how did you miss that.. it's been blogged and mailed to a lot of lists, might be in your interest to go <ebel> tdr112: sure. I have another little 'cd holder' from the last one <czajkowski> tdr112: can you post my blog post to the IE list please re the event happening <fagan> czajkowski: yeah I havent been looking the past 2 days <ebel> actually i fouind ~ 5 or 10 10.04 cds left :P <czajkowski> fagan: this is about a month old <fagan> czajkowski: or maybe I just forgot <czajkowski> *shrugs* <tdr112> czajkowski: i will send an email to the list about the event and give a link to your blog <czajkowski> tdr112: cheers, can't do it from here <tdr112> ebel: i have been putting in a few 10.04 into the box i give to people <tdr112> to get rid of them <ebel> hehehe <fagan> tdr112: well 10.04 is kinda the one you should be giving to new users <fagan> the normal releases arent really entirely supposed to be suggested as the greatest impression of the desktop <czajkowski> of course they are <popey> LTS for business, non-LTS for everyone else IMO <tdr112> czajkowski: email sent <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> tdr112: thanks <czajkowski> tdr112: you going ? <tdr112> yep <popey> also ebel we already have the ability to do password protected repos with PPAs in launchpad <fagan> well the protocol for normal releases is to build up for the next LTS releases at least thats how ive always seen it <tdr112> ebel: can you drop in the rest of the cds and the other stand you have <fagan> and as well as password protecting them you can hide them but thats internal I think <ebel> tdr112: into TOG? sure. <ebel> popey: ah cool. :) <tdr112> ebel: yep <czajkowski> fagan: LTS for business so they dont have to worry about udpates, regular versions for folks who arent pushed but can stick to a lts if they want. <ebel> You'd need to have a system so that people can't download the deb until they have paid for the app. <popey> yup, thats not hard to do <popey> i have an app on my system which was bought like that <tdr112> we can only give people the cds we have so it will be a few 10.4 and a few 10.10 <popey> they have a key'ed repository, so only poeple who have bought the app can download it <czajkowski> tdr112: do you need more ? * fagan doesnt have a credit card so couldnt pay for anything in the software center <czajkowski> I can see if I can get more sent over for the evnet <czajkowski> event <czajkowski> fagan: 3v card <czajkowski> top up <czajkowski> got in many petrol stations <czajkowski> spars <czajkowski> centras <czajkowski> shops <fagan> oh yeah I forgot about those yokes <fagan> it is cool to see https://pay.ubuntu.com/ <popey> They only support Amex, Visa, MC, DC, JCB <ebel> popey: oh? interesting. You're basically saying what i want has already been done. linky? <popey> ebel: I know two examples of it <fagan> ebel: yeah its done in the software center for 1.10 <popey> ebel: one is the font <fagan> *10.10 <ebel> fagan czajkowski in proper countries they have a debit card that works online. None of this laser rubbish. <fagan> yeah I have a boi laser <czajkowski> ebel: aye mine arrives Saturday ;) <czajkowski> but the 3V card is a MC so I dont see an issue <ebel> thankfully in ireland they are moving away from laser, ulster bank did, boi will <fagan> czajkowski: I thought it was visa rather than MC <tdr112> ebel: yep they are going under <ebel> slashtom had trouble with rubycard. <tdr112> ebel: should start calling himself Timecop <ebel> GAAAAH TIMEZONES!!!! * ebel has to work around timezones for facebook api <ebel> apparently they may or may not convert to local time in .ca.us. Stupid API <czajkowski> ebel: has issues with Tz <ebel> No, I understand TZs. It's everyone else who either ignores them or does them wrong :P <czajkowski> ebel: have you mailed looking for the free gift for ubuntu-ie <czajkowski> they are going to be sent shortly in batcches <ebel> what's this? the banner? I can't remember... <czajkowski> yes <lau1> we finally got the week end storm last night ... <lau1> hi everyone <ebel> czajkowski: i have emailed requesting a conference pack just now <czajkowski> ebel: to djennings@example.org <ebel> czajkowski: yep that's where i sent it <czajkowski> good thanks <ebel> :) <ebel> I put my address down <ebel> Since I have 24/7 concierge, none of this going to the sorting office non-sense <ebel> i'll let ye all know when i get it <czajkowski> coolio <ebel> "The start_time and end_time are the times that were input by the event creator, converted to UTC after assuming that they were in Pacific time (Daylight Savings or Standard, depending on the date of the event), then converted into Unix epoch time." <ebel> that's why I hate when things don't do timezones. <ebel> that is how you add events on a large social network site starting with F <czajkowski> felimwhiteley_: tdr112 is cheeky <tdr112> what now ? <felimwhiteley_> heh the ubuntu ie mail with Cztab.. <tdr112> :) <felimwhiteley_> tdr112: you know you can get away with it now she's not about to give you digs :) <tdr112> felimwhiteley_: one of the very small + for her moving to the uk <felimwhiteley_> heh <Belserusk> Anyone else have trouble playing mame games in Ubuntu 10.10 <Belserusk> ? <tdr112> ebel: i am getting cd shipped no need to drop the other ones in <ebel> tdr112: oh cool. from shipit? <tdr112> yep czajkowski sorted it out <ebel> cool <czajkowski> :) <czajkowski> I have a use <lau1> are you in the uk czajkowski ?Â <czajkowski> I am indeed <lau1> http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurentcgeo/5161585806/in/photostream/#/photos/laurentcgeo/5160977641/in/photostream/lightbox/ this morning in North dublin (so you don't miss it to much) ;) <czajkowski> pretty <lau1> :D <lau1> went after lunch for high tide splash I will add a few later to the album <lau1> there was a mad bloke attemting to surf to :p #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-10 <slaine> hey folks <slaine> anyone about at this late hour ? <tdr112> yo <slaine> I should really be going to bed, but i've a problem with my mythbuntu install and thought I'd ask a question here. <slaine> I want to boot up off the live cd image and chroot into the hdd install and run update-manager from there to see if I can get my box updated and working <slaine> I mounted the the partition, and bind monted /proc /sys, /dev etc. into the chroot <slaine> but I was getting errors displaying to the xserver <slaine> what am I missing <tdr112> not sure on that one <slaine> ah, it's too late to sort it now, I'll have another go tomorrow <slaine> night <tdr112> heading to bed myself too , night <daxroc> Morning <Belserusk> Can someone explain these 2 options? http://i.imgur.com/hCffn.gif <czajkowski> Belserusk: do you want them ro run before you check what they are <czajkowski> or do you wnat to check them and then deccide what is best <Belserusk> Hi czajkowski. Do you refer to running file such as .sh and .bin files? <czajkowski> yes <Belserusk> czajkowski, So for opening normal .txt files; it is irrelevant as to which option I choose? <czajkowski> yes <tdr112_> airurando: do you need a pc for your talk tonight <airurando> Hi tdr112: Nad I'll bring my laptop. I'll definately need help setting it up though. <tdr112> no prob <Belserusk> Thank you czajkowski. * airurando is still busily working on the talk but definately getting there <Belserusk> Is there a alternate way to open the Nautilus Preferences Window (http://i.imgur.com/hCffn.gif)? I cannot open it via Edit -> Preferences (the option is not there). <cduffin> Try pressing alt-e and then press n <tdr112> i got the gohead to give out ubuntu cds next week atthat event <Belserusk> cduffin, I can access the Edit menu in Nautilus. The preferences option is not there though. <czajkowski> tdr112: which event <tdr112> the-business-value-of-open-source-software he aloso asked if i want to do a tog table at it <czajkowski> sweet <czajkowski> dave rocks <tdr112> he does <czajkowski> he uses Ubuntu at home as well <czajkowski> or did <tdr112> he was very quick getting back to me <czajkowski> yes he is good like that <czajkowski> with some stuff * ebel has just ordered a HTC Desire from emobile <cduffin> ebel, would you not wait for the Desire HD? <davem> ebel: good choice, I <3 mine <ebel> cduffin: i saw that one, but it'll be expensive for the mo <ebel> also I've waited ages for one :P <czajkowski> tdr112: Cds are now sent <tdr112> cool , how long do that take <czajkowski> could be there tomorrow or friday <tdr112> ok let hope friday , i will be home then <czajkowski> okioe dokie <Belserusk> Do text files ever need to be executable?Is it possible to keep gridlines with a background color in OpenOffice Spreadsheets? http://i.imgur.com/W1cgA.gif <Belserusk> Is it possible to keep gridlines with a background color in OpenOffice Spreadsheets? http://i.imgur.com/W1cgA.gif #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-11 <Belserusk> Which option do you use? http://i.imgur.com/4rZQt.gif <ebel> depends <Belserusk> ebel, on what? <Belserusk> ebel, Which option would you use normally? <ebel> if i am opening a file from a usb stick or something <ebel> or if i know if it's an executable or now <ebel> *not <tdr112> 100 ubuntu cds just came <czajkowski> :) <czajkowski> sweet <tdr112> ebel: could you drop in the display stand , you have <ebel> tdr112: sure <tdr112> ebel: great <ziroday> Heya, I was wondering if someone could recommend me a cheap .ie doman registrar. Looking around the best I've got is EUR$17.46 which feels rather steep <davem> .ie's aren't cheap <ziroday> davem: I gathered :) <davem> http://domainoffers.me/ <davem> â¬16.25 from us :) <slashtom> the cheaper option is a .eu <ziroday> davem: awesome! I was looking at blacknight but you have ~$20 on your site <davem> thats the special offers page <davem> its heavily referenced from the blog but not the main page <ziroday> and that's not just a sign up special right? That stays throughout even after the first year? <ziroday> slashtom: its a wordplay so it needs to be an .ie <tdr112> czajkowski: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~tdr/blog/2010/11/11/ubuntu-cds/ <ebel> ziroday: .ie are intentionally high <ebel> though they've come down in price. Time was they used to cost ~ â¬50 â â¬75 per year for a .ie <davem> ziroday: its just for the 1st year <davem> afaik <ebel> I use blacknight for my domains. <ebel> they have sponsored ubuntu ireland with free web hosting <ziroday> Sweet, well the prices aren't that bad at all, I'll try them out, and if Godaddy keeps ticking me off I might move all my domains over <ziroday> ebel: awesome! <davem> ebel: whats the URL? * slashtom also uses Blacknight (switching from 1and1) <ebel> http://www.blacknight.com/ <davem> for the ubuntu ireland * davem works for blacknight <davem> hence the blatant advertising :) <ebel> they have given us hosting, but we're trying to find volunteers who want to make the website :P <ebel> ah hehehehe <ebel> y'know how it is with volunteer organisations. :) <ebel> Our normal website is http://www.ubuntu-ie.org, but that's still running on canonical's servers <ziroday> oof I didn't know the <blink> tag was even used anymore <ziroday> ouch VAT? <davem> ziroday: welcome to the world of marketing :) <ziroday> heh, I forgot what its like to live in a country that seriously taxes :P <ziroday> oh dear davem you don't like my credit card. <davem> contact accounts <ebel> davem: how many people work in blacknight? friend is looking for hosting company <ebel> (feel free to poke Moof on this network :P ) <davem> why does he ask? <davem> is he looking for a job?? <slashtom> davem: he's worried his provider will go out of business (again) <ebel> haha, yeah that was funny last time <davem> rofl <davem> afaik we're now the largest registrar in ireland and its still climbing so not likely that we'll go out of business <davem> who was his previous crowd? <ebel> davem: i think there were in morocco or spain #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-12 <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> hows folks <ebel> yo yo <terran> czajkowski: WELL BJOOR <czajkowski> I've a house <czajkowski> :D <terran> czajkowski: Link! <ebel> nice <czajkowski> http://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/flatshare_detail.pl?flatshare_id=1477828 <slashtom> far from the army guys? <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> but moving in with 5 blokes <czajkowski> :) <ebel> a man-house. <czajkowski> aye <terran> just a small town girl <terran> living in a lonely man-house <ebel> living in a lonely world <terran> In a world <terran> where people from Castleconnel move to England <czajkowski> :) <terran> one woman stands alone <terran> *Castleconnell <terran> czajkowski: do you miss the Castle Oaks <terran> I do <terran> Had my debs there <czajkowski> no <terran> and a pint once <terran> after walking from UL to Castleconnell along the river <terran> Fantastic walk that <czajkowski> aye it is <airurando> Evening all <airurando> night all <tdr112> evening #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-13 <hypercube> hi guys <hypercube> someone please describes the phonetic this: "Caireen"with Irish accent. THX <ebel> hypercube: car-een ? <ebel> haven't heard that name/word before <hypercube> caireen is a Irish godless <hypercube> i'm hungarian :P <hypercube> ka:i:n? <hypercube> ohh goddess, not godless D #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-15 <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> morning <czajkowski> slashtom: hows you ? <slashtom> grand, how's the form? <czajkowski> great <czajkowski> love it <czajkowski> :D <slashtom> a step up from limerick? ;) <czajkowski> yeah <czajkowski> pretty interesting so far <czajkowski> still getting to grips what I'll be doing <airurando> evening all <airurando> tdr112: ping <czajkowski> aloha <airurando> czajkowski: hi there <czajkowski> airurando: hows things with you and the family <airurando> glad to see you are settling in across the pond :) <airurando> all good here <airurando> 2 weeks and 2 days till disneyland paris <czajkowski> awww fantastic <airurando> trying to catch tdr112 to see if he's OK for the open source in business thing tomorrow evening * airurando is wondering if extra hands are needed <czajkowski> ahh <czajkowski> gutted am missing it <czajkowski> you going ? <airurando> not sure <airurando> If tdr112 could use an extra pair of hands I'd be happy to go <czajkowski> http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/Punditry <czajkowski> anyone can add content to it <czajkowski> it's to give some feedback t pc live magazine <ShaneM> czajkowski: How's the new job going? :) <czajkowski> great thanks <ShaneM> Great! <ShaneM> I saw on identi.ca your living with a deb person, what're the chances! <czajkowski> I know <czajkowski> :) <ShaneM> Hey did anyone head to the MeeGo con in Dublin today? <ShaneM> I was meant to go, but alas my funds are too low. <ebel> czajkowski: did you just look for "geek friendly accomodation"? :P <czajkowski> no <czajkowski> anyone want to help me out with http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/Punditry <czajkowski> need to have it done by tomorrow <czajkowski> jot in any ideas <czajkowski> am pooed <czajkowski> pooped <ShaneM> I can try and help. <czajkowski> thanks <czajkowski> early mornings are making for a long day <ShaneM> Heh yeah <ShaneM> Hope what I've put there helps a little. <czajkowski> thanks <ShaneM> You can already see what i've written right? I don't need to save or anything? <ShaneM> Sorry, haven't used this before. <ShaneM> http://torrentfreak.com/irish-government-wants-file-sharing-compromise-or-legislation-will-follow-101115/ Don't really like the sound of this article. <ShaneM> Did google effectively kill etherpad and put the code into google docs? :( <popey> no <popey> etherpad is open source <popey> you can run your own etherpad instance <popey> ta-da! http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ :D <ShaneM> popey: Yeah but the further development is dead? <popey> no <ShaneM> Oh ok. <ShaneM> My bad. <popey> :) <czajkowski> ShaneM: I can see when you're writing stuff yuo <ShaneM> czajkowski: Cool. I've never used etherpad before :) <czajkowski> it's handy and you cna use it by just going to pad.ubuntu-ie.org and creating them <czajkowski> handy for note taking <ShaneM> Awesome :) <czajkowski> yup #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-16 <ShaneM> Anyone have experience resizing encrypted drives? <czajkowski> tdr112: enjoying the event <czajkowski> some intersting ( i think) info coming from event on open source and business http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23OSSbizValue * You're now known as ubuntulog * You're now known as ubuntulog_ * You're now known as ubuntulog <tdr112> czajkowski: he is talking now <czajkowski> coolio #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-17 <ShaneM> Hey all. <ebel_> hi <tdr112> hello all <czajkowski> tdr112: enoy yesterday <tdr112> yep it was good fun <ShaneM> The bb scheme is such crap :( <ShaneM> http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Communications/Communications+Development/National+Broadband+Scheme/NBS+FAQs.htm <ShaneM> It's all just wireless bb, which is rubbish. <tdr112> czajkowski: talked to a few of te speakers , they all said nice things about you <czajkowski> aww <tdr112> so they tell me that there is notting but young men in the town your in <czajkowski> so I'm told <czajkowski> Army folks <czajkowski> tdr112: new house mate is a debian developer working for redhat <tdr112> the red hat guy yesterday , was great too <czajkowski> ronan <czajkowski> aye good speaker <infoturtle> halo guys, stupid question, where can I add topics for the IRC meeting to-night? <tdr112> on the wiki <infoturtle> jUST FOUND THE PAGE ON THE WIKI WHERE TO ADD STUFF <infoturtle> THANKS <infoturtle> oops caps lock was on...... <tdr112> not to worry <infoturtle> and anyone can add to the agenda ya?? Like i'll be there for the meeting just want to add something <tdr112> infoturtle: yep anyone can <ebel_> infoturtle: yep anyone can add to agenda and come to the meeting <ebel_> though if you add to the agenda, please come to the meeting, so that you can talk about it :) <infoturtle> I will, just didn't want to show up and announce I had sumit to say is all, I'll be there ^^, <ebel_> :) <czajkowski> aloha <airurando> Might be a bit late for tonights meeting <czajkowski> aloha <airurando> Hi czjkowski <airurando> Just driving home so can't chat pulled in for this <czajkowski> nods <czajkowski> meeting not for a while yet <czajkowski> chat later <airurando> evening all <infoturtle`> how do <airurando> anyone about for the meeting <infoturtle`> an seo <czajkowski> me <tdr112> me <airurando> will I chair? <czajkowski> sure <ebel> ahoy7 * ebel just arrives <airurando> evening ebel <ebel> 'evening <airurando> you want to chair or will I? <ebel> erm i don't mind if you do it :P <airurando> right so <ebel> :) <airurando> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:08. The chair is airurando. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <airurando> If Welcome all, if you are here for the monthly meeting please indicate so by saying PRESENT <airurando> PRESENT <infoturtle`> PRESENT <czajkowski> PRESENT <tdr112> Present <ebel> PRESENT <airurando> The wiki page for this meeting, which includes the meeting agenda, is located at <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-11-17 <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-11-17 <airurando> We'll start off with a review of previous action items <slashtom> PRESENT <airurando> We have a couple of old action items which relate to updating the Ubuntu-ie Loco Website <airurando> This appears to have gone off the boil for the moment so unless anyone objects I feel we should drop it from the agenda until somebody shows an interest in taking up this challenge. <infoturtle`> what's needed? <airurando> any thoughts? <ebel> anyone wanna do it? <ebel> I have a feeling I am supposed to give someone else access, there's a few people who have access to the blacknight account <infoturtle`> Sure if I knew what was needed to update <airurando> infoturtle` I suppose a willingness to take on the challenge and a ability with website design <infoturtle`> have both of those <airurando> ebel: could you elaborate <ebel> airurando: essentially we have web hosting with blacknight <ebel> i.e. ubuntuie has a blacknight account username/password <ebel> with that you can access the blacknight control panel, install various LAMP web applications etc <ebel> i.e. everything you need to set up the website. <ebel> the webmistriss/webmaster will need this details to 'maintain the website'. <airurando> does anyone still have a link to shaunos mockup? <ebel> if anyone wants to be our webmistress/webmaster just let me know, and (unless other are opposed) I'll give it to 'em <ebel> I've given said details to other people already. <infoturtle`> I'd be happy to do it, will it involve changing the layout or adding content? <ebel> infoturtle`: you can do as little and as much as you want. essentially we need a webmistriss/webmaster. <infoturtle`> cool, I'll help with that <infoturtle`> ^^, <airurando> excellent <airurando> anyone have any other input <infoturtle`> not on this matter but I did want to ask something else * ebel gives username/password to infoturtle` (see pm) <airurando> infoturtle` want to leave it to AOB section at the end? <infoturtle`> oh, sorry, ya cool <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle` to take on task of ubuntu-ie website webmistress/webmaster. <MootBot> ACTION received: infoturtle` to take on task of ubuntu-ie website webmistress/webmaster. <airurando> thanks for that infoturtle` <airurando> thanks ebel for granting access <infoturtle`> no prob airurando <airurando> moving on <airurando> at last months meeting I was actioned to generate Ubuntu Hour listings for Dublin and Limerick only for the month of October <airurando> this was done and the listings for November were also generated. <airurando> November Ubuntu Hours happening next week in Dublin. <airurando> [LINK] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/527/detail/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/527/detail/ <airurando> and Limerick <airurando> [LINK] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/526/detail/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/526/detail/ <airurando> tdr112 was actioned to contact the Dublin colleges in an effort to organising Ubuntu 10.10 CD distribution. <airurando> tdr112: want to say anything on this <airurando> tdr112 was also actioned with the responsibility to lead the effort to organise a team event for November <tdr112> yep i gave out a lot of cds <tdr112> lots of them <tdr112> czajkowski: got me another 100 for an event the other day so we have about 50 left , <airurando> I know imgarysmith had an item on the agenda relating to DC distribution but he withdrew due to the fact that he would not be present at this evenings meeting <airurando> *CD <tdr112> well theren are some left and he is welcome to them <tdr112> airurando: do you have an email for him/her <airurando> afraid not <airurando> The targeting of college comp socs seemed to go well. <tdr112> yep i contact them via irc <airurando> Maybe we should discuss this more at a later date when imgarysmith is around. <tdr112> ok <airurando> warrants further discussion IMO <airurando> tdr112 anything on the end of year team event? <tdr112> nope i am hoping to hand this off to someone else i am mad busy in college <airurando> anyone available to take this up? <infoturtle`> I've got the time of no one else can <airurando> infoturtle` you are fast becoming a legend. <airurando> anyone have any ideas on what we could do? <infoturtle`> ^^, what can I say, I have a boring life <airurando> <infoturtle` want to come up with a couple of ideas like cinema night, bowling etc. <airurando> come up with a few target dates. <airurando> hit the mailing list for thoughts <airurando> at this stage it may be a new year event <infoturtle`> can do if you want to leave it with me to come up with stuff <airurando> no real rush <infoturtle`> I'll get some ideas and trow it around the mailing list, see what people think <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle` to take over lead organiser for end of year/new year team event. <MootBot> ACTION received: infoturtle` to take over lead organiser for end of year/new year team event. <airurando> great stuff * slashtom was thinking of doing a doodle poll <slashtom> like before, selection of dates and events <infoturtle`> no prob <slashtom> although we may be limited for events, given the weather and short days * slashtom suggests bowling <slashtom> either december or january <ebel> indoors++ <infoturtle`> it will have to be indoor to be fair <slashtom> i said bowling not bowls ;) <infoturtle`> golf isn't a real option like <infoturtle`> oh i know i was just saying something <airurando> to set it up will we just say bowling? <airurando> then doodle poll for date? <slashtom> that seems good <infoturtle`> yep, we can do that * slashtom can take care of that <airurando> ok so <slashtom> iirc there is a bowling alley iin stillorgan <infoturtle`> we want that venue? <slashtom> you have any other suggestions <airurando> is there nothing more central? <slashtom> the stillorgan venue is on the bus route 46A <slashtom> no, nothing more central <infoturtle`> no, don't mind, would just like the info for when I ask <ebel> (46a = one of the most common busses in the country)( <airurando> [ACTION] slashtom to generate doodle poll to decide on date for winter bowling team event. <MootBot> ACTION received: slashtom to generate doodle poll to decide on date for winter bowling team event. <airurando> infoturtle` you're off the hook for that one. <infoturtle`> ok cool <airurando> moving on the agenda items proper <airurando> [TOPIC] Team Events December Schedule <MootBot> New Topic: Team Events December Schedule <airurando> With this being 'the most wonderful time of the year' I was wondering if we should plan accordingly. <airurando> Is there any point in having Ubuntu Hours on the 29th and 30th of December? <czajkowski> nope * slashtom and ebel will be in .uk then <ebel> yarp <czajkowski> airurando: how about teaming uo with python and ruby and alt.net for some sort of xmas thingy <czajkowski> airurando: remember the mails vicky send on re an event <airurando> czajkowski yeah got them <czajkowski> perhaps that can be done instead of an ubuntu hour for december? <airurando> czajkowski you propose calling that team quiz event a combined social event for December <czajkowski> yup <airurando> Good Idea <infoturtle`> I likes it too <airurando> is it agreed that we will drop Ubuntu Hours for December? <infoturtle`> agreed <airurando> I'll ask citizenjonker about the Limerick one. It will be up to him really. <infoturtle`> He online now, will i ask him to join? <infoturtle`> *he's <airurando> as there are no objections thought we won'e schedule a Dublin Ubuntu Hour for December. <airurando> infoturtle` please do <airurando> *won't <airurando> Should we have our monthly IRC meeting on 15 Dec 10 as would be expected given it is the default third Wednesday of the month. <tdr112> airurando: i think an email to a list telling people its not on would be good <airurando> tdr112: agreed I'll take that on <infoturtle`> citizenjonker said he's cool with it <infoturtle`> actual words <airurando> [ACTION] airurando to e-mail list informing subscribers that there will be no scheduled Dublin and Limerick Hours for December. <MootBot> ACTION received: airurando to e-mail list informing subscribers that there will be no scheduled Dublin and Limerick Hours for December. <airurando> everyone OK with next months meeting happening on 15 Dec 10? <slashtom> aye <infoturtle`> sure am <ebel> yep <airurando> good stuff <airurando> I'll schedule that so. <airurando> next item <airurando> [TOPIC] Our Loco Team Logo <MootBot> New Topic: Our Loco Team Logo <airurando> Do we need a redesign? <airurando> Are we bound to using the new brand guidelines? <airurando> [LINK] http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ <infoturtle`> at the last ubuntu hour in limerick, some one brought a design that i loved if ye want to look at the idea of it <infoturtle`> its rough but the idea is there <airurando> Should we update the font at least? <airurando> infoturtle` yeah that was Hugh <infoturtle`> sure was <airurando> Hugh Mulqueen an artist generated a logo which he posted to the forums some time ago. <airurando> [LINK]http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463311 <MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463311 <airurando> I've chatted to Hugh on the forums and discussed the possibility of a more subtle update to the logo. <airurando> He seemed keen. <airurando> Hoped he would be here tonight <airurando> does anyone have thought on this? <airurando> is it needed? <infoturtle`> he was keen to let us use it at the meeting <infoturtle`> so I'd say he'd be fine with it <infoturtle`> chuffed even <airurando> infoturtle` based on the new branding I told Hugh I thought his design was a bit extreme. <airurando> czajkowski: can you provide any guidance on this? <czajkowski> ahh <czajkowski> well once a new logo is created <czajkowski> we can just ask canonical to check it#s ok <czajkowski> they come back within a few days <czajkowski> onces it's done poke me and I'll sort that bit out <airurando> I've seem the UK redesign and it does not differ from the official brand as much as loco designs in the past did. <czajkowski> nods <czajkowski> they had it checked out also <airurando> I don't believe there is scope for much artistic license <czajkowski> but we can tidy up the font <czajkowski> and folks can add stuff to the design <airurando> I liked Hugs effort and suggested he came up with something more subtle paying head to the new brand design guidelines <airurando> I'll try to contact Hugh Again <czajkowski> okie dokie <airurando> infoturtle` if you come across him can you let him know I want to talk to him? <airurando> right so <airurando> moving on <infoturtle`> will do, ill contact him once this is over <airurando> [TOPIC] Facebook and Twitter Front <MootBot> New Topic: Facebook and Twitter Front <airurando> proposer not listed on the wiki page but the entry was made by andru183 <infoturtle`> Thats me, I want to make an offical Ubuntu facebook page that can post event/content to facebook users <infoturtle`> at the moment I'm one of the admins for a ubunt-ie page but it cant post content so I would like to make one that can <infoturtle`> anyone mind if I do this? <ebel> for the ubuntu ireland facebook page? <ebel> we have a twitter, you want access for that? <infoturtle`> ya, I found that out after i made the post <ebel> anyone opposed to giving infoturtle` twitter/identica access details? <airurando> no objection here <czajkowski> nope <airurando> infoturtle` forgive my ignorance here <airurando> do you want to update the current Ubuntu-ie Facebook page? <airurando> or generate a new one? <infoturtle`> no, make one, with the name ubunt-ie that people can join and I can post the news/events so people know about content on facebook <infoturtle`> reminders even <airurando> What about the current Ubuntu Ireland page? <airurando> Do we want/need a double presence on Facebook? <infoturtle`> It can post any news or anything, people can just join and write on its wall <airurando> can it not be modified? <infoturtle`> sorry that should be it can't <infoturtle`> I understand the double presence but the current page dosen't interact with users <airurando> can it not be modified? * airurando knows nothing about this <infoturtle`> no, its just a fan page to like, you have to create a new opage and delete the old <airurando> can you migrate subscribers (likers) <infoturtle`> no, but as admin i can send mail to all of them to let them know about the move and why <airurando> I have no objection <airurando> anyone else? <czajkowski> nope <airurando> any input ebel: slashtom: tdr112? <ebel> i don't mind <ebel> go for it <infoturtle`> woo! thanks <tdr112> not i facebook , dont mind <airurando> as there are no objections I reckon that's fine so. <tdr112> just keep it upto date , <infoturtle`> thanks guys!! * tdr112 does not want another thing to update <infoturtle`> i will, i always update ubuntu current stuff on my own site anyway <infoturtle`> this is just the same thing <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle`to generate the curren Ubuntu-ie Facebook page <MootBot> ACTION received: infoturtle`to generate the curren Ubuntu-ie Facebook page <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle` to generate new improved Fecebook page for ubuntu-ie. Delete old page and try to migrate subscribers over via email. <MootBot> ACTION received: infoturtle` to generate new improved Fecebook page for ubuntu-ie. Delete old page and try to migrate subscribers over via email. <tdr112> i have to head off now , i will read the rest of the logs tonight <airurando> great <airurando> [TOPIC] Any other Business <MootBot> New Topic: Any other Business <airurando> I'll end the meeting so <airurando> thanks all for attending and participating <airurando> #endmeeting <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:25. <infoturtle`> egg salad, I'll get onto huge now <ebel> :) <airurando> infoturtle` thanks for taking on so much and good luck with it all. <infoturtle`> happy to help, I'm excited about it to be honest, yes I'm that lame <airurando> look forward to seeing the updates. <airurando> look forward to update at next months meeting * airurando must eat dinner. <airurando> long day <airurando> tummy rumbling <infoturtle`> cool, take care till next time #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-18 <slashtom> thanks tdr112, for anyone else who's interested http://doodle.com/rd8s2x54b7swa7u6 <jtoomey> hi all <jtoomey> anyone alive? <infoturtle`> a little <jtoomey> i suppose that has to be better than djennings@example.org... <jtoomey> infoturtle`: any chance you know anything about packaging? <infoturtle`> a bit, shoot and see if i can help <jtoomey> ah - cool. long story short: im trying to build gnome-disk-utility into a deb from the source (which i found on launchpad) <jtoomey> im using these instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html <czajkowski> jtoomey: how are you getting on ? <jtoomey> but i keep getting cryptic errors when it tries to build.... <jtoomey> czajkowski: hey - hows it going? <czajkowski> what kind of errors are you getting <jtoomey> i can recreate it if you give me a couple of mins... <czajkowski> jtoomey: if you log into #ubuntu-locoteams I know there are more folks in there who have expereince <czajkowski> and I'm in there also and they could help <jtoomey> czajkowski: ok - cool, be there in a sec :D <czajkowski> ok <ebel> yo yo <jtoomey> hi :D <jtoomey> czajkowski: hey - thanks again for your help! <czajkowski> jtoomey: np <duvelhedz> hi ebel hows life with you <ebel> yo <ebel> grand <ebel> yourself? <duvelhedz> not too bad <duvelhedz> did you hear about the new speed kernel patch in the works <duvelhedz> its mind blowing <duvelhedz> only 233 lines of codr that cuts desktop latency by a factor of 10! <duvelhedz> you in dublin <ebel> yeah i'm a dub <ebel> you tried this new patch? <duvelhedz> only read about it yesterday. was too tired to risk buggering up my kernel <duvelhedz> might have a look tonight <duvelhedz> there are pre and post patch vidoes on the phoronix site. this is going to be a very bug advancement for linix. should be included in 2.6.38 <duvelhedz> any plans yourself to try it? <duvelhedz> i was telephoned and interviewed on the phone by microsoft today <duvelhedz> didnt expect it in the least <ebel> hahaha <duvelhedz> they want me to deploy cluent vista and 7 machines for them in leixlip as they are moving there. <duvelhedz> cant figure out why they thought i was a good choice <duvelhedz> if i did it, my cover would be blown as soon as i start using apt-get as a verb! <ebel> hehehe <duvelhedz> i finally fixed my nvidia driver crashing issue. had brrn tearing my head out ovrr the proplem. tons of dmesg and syslog spam aswell. <duvelhedz> was a nvs 330 laptop gpu <hello> hello <ShaneM> Hi <hello> cool irc works in chrome now <ShaneM> Cool <hello> right now im doing the last scene of mw2 <hello> epic <hello> have you ever gone to ubuntu hour? <ShaneM> Nope <ShaneM> I live in Cork. <infoturtle`> that was odd <infoturtle`> lol #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-19 <jtoomey> hello all <ShaneM> Hi jtoomey <tdr112> morning <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> jyou came back <czajkowski> :) <ShaneM> Am I the only person Empathy never works for? :( <czajkowski> really <czajkowski> what happens <ShaneM> It always crashes <ShaneM> And msn messages never seen. <ShaneM> All works on Pidgin fine. <ShaneM> Even with a default install nothing work on Empathy. <ShaneM> *never send. <czajkowski> kinda odd <czajkowski> ShaneM: what version ubuntu are you running <ShaneM> 10.10 <ShaneM> But this has happened to me with every version. <czajkowski> hmmm <czajkowski> is it do to do with your connection I wonder <ShaneM> Unlikely since everything works perfectly in pidgin. <ShaneM> And even if the connect was bad the application shouldn't randomly crash. <ShaneM> I would assume it's some sort of msn issue with Empathy. <ShaneM> Since the messages not sending only happens on the msn protocol. <ebel> there's something up with msn lately <ebel> they made a new ssl certificate but didn't get it signed or something <ShaneM> ebel: Yeah that happened yesterday * ebel got that error today... <ShaneM> ebel: I think that's only effecting Pidgin. <ShaneM> This issue I have with Empathy is basically constant <ShaneM> It's ok though, I'm not expecting some magical fix. I just wanted to know if people were having the same issues as me :) <czajkowski> ShaneM: I used to have an issue with pidgin which is why I moved to empathy <ShaneM> czajkowski: Oh mystery bugs :) <czajkowski> ShaneM: I'd still log the bug though <ShaneM> I don't really know what to log <ShaneM> "Random crash" <ShaneM> I don't know what sets it off. <ShaneM> It's actually kind of completely random <ShaneM> I suppose I could log the msn issues though. <czajkowski> ShaneM: well in the bug report write out what you do <czajkowski> what sets it off <czajkowski> and also say it's intermittent <ShaneM> czajkowski: I'll do that this evening then, brb. <czajkowski> excellent <tdr112> czajkowski: a post about that event http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~tdr/blog/2010/11/19/the-business-value-of-open-source-software/ <airurando> afternoon <infoturtle`> ^^, how are we?? <airurando> does anyone have a link to some photos of the May Geeknic? <airurando> hi infoturtle` <airurando> not too bad <airurando> any you? <airurando> and you? <airurando> I've tidied up the upcoming events wiki page and the 2010 events archive page. <infoturtle`> fine, up and working to get work for the site out of the way, Anamanaguchi are playing a gig in limerick for friends of mine company opening party and trying to free time up for that <infoturtle`> oh cool I'll go check that now and update the masses <airurando> the only thing missing are photos for the may geeknic / lucid release party <infoturtle`> seen some on czajkowski's blog before i belive <airurando> yeah czajkowski was always reliable but she wasn't at that event <airurando> oggcamp happened the same weekend. <infoturtle`> oh, fiddle sticks <czajkowski> airurando: ahh ebel has them on his flicker stream <airurando> I wasn't at it either <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> I'll look into that <czajkowski> airurando: howdy <czajkowski> :) <airurando> how was week two? <ebel> airurando: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/tags/lucidlynx/ <airurando> thanks ebel <ebel> twasn't a warm day, note the coats :) <airurando> yeah I remember seeing them just didn't remember where <airurando> I'll put a link to them on the 2010 archive wiki page. <infoturtle`> anyone use ggz? having troubles getting it to run <czajkowski> infoturtle`: what is it <infoturtle`> its a lobby for find server for games like nibbles/chess, games you can get with ubuntu <infoturtle`> hey airurando any word from huge? I'm hoping to make out 2 or 3 themes for users to pick from if thats cool and if he's making a logo I'd like to add it to the header of all of them <infoturtle`> for ubuntu-ie.org <infoturtle`> should have said that part <airurando> infoturtle` no hugh hasn't contacted me. Look forward to seeing the designs. <airurando> Remember though, based on my understanding, we can't mess with the actual logo or font <infoturtle`> we can, unless you mean were not allowed, the the site deff allows you to edit themes, I wont touch a thing till it's approved, just thinking themes might make user experience a little more friendly <airurando> infoturtle` I'm not saying anything is not allowed. <airurando> truly I don't know. <airurando> I just don't want a lot of effort to go into something for it then to be rejected. <infoturtle`> ok cool, I'll just leave it as it is for now <airurando> infoturtle` Ah no, give it a go just don't be too radical! and don't spend too much time on it. <airurando> infoturtle` you are webmaster not me <airurando> I don't have any say, above offering my opinion, in what happens to the website. <infoturtle`> I happy to makes changes need and stuff but I'm not familiar with the rules and what can be done, I'm just afriad of getting too eager and doing something that pisses someone off, I'll try to add colour and give a spruce of life but as you say nothing too radical, and I am happy to be getting help from you, I know your not telling me wheat to do and the info is helping <airurando> infoturtle` I'm way too conservative. as ebel says you can do as much or as little as you like. <airurando> He who does stuff gets to say whats done. <airurando> you won't annoy folks with your initial plan of designing a couple and then letting people pick. <infoturtle`> cool, thanks for the motivation/advice, I'll try something out and we'll see how it goes <airurando> infoturtle` good stuff. <jtoomey> hello all <airurando> Hi jtoomey <jtoomey> hey - hows it going? <airurando> not too bad and yourself? <jtoomey> grand. tired. long week. <jtoomey> just trying this LostIRC client out - not sure how it works.... <czajkowski> jtoomey: welcome back <tdr112> evening <jtoomey> czajkowski, thanks! <jtoomey> czajkowski, i started trying to get stuck into that code after your help yesterday. its very complicated - too much for my limited grasp of GTK+. i think i might mail the developer and see if he would give me 5 mins of his time... <czajkowski> jtoomey: nods <czajkowski> or there are folks usually idling in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat and they'll talk folks thorugh it <jtoomey> czajkowski, i suppose, at this point my questions are specific to the application. how it fits together and what not. you know? <czajkowski> j0ds <czajkowski> nods <jtoomey> j0ds eh? i hadnt thought of that... :P <davisc> Hah! Wales are not happy bunnies! <infoturtle`> ???? <davisc> Losing 13-6 to Fiji at half time <czajkowski> wow <lau1> read that they are trying to beat fidji at their own game <lau1> the world cup fiasco was not enough <lau1> ;) <infoturtle`> time for this turtle to go see anamanaguchi!! woo, see ye guys 2mara!! <lau1> see yo <lau1> u <infoturtle`> ^^, #ubuntu-ie 2010-11-21 <infoturtle`> anybody know who might have the drupal password for ubnutu-ie.org? <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> infoturtle`: ebel might <ebel> ahoy <ebel> eh? <infoturtle`> lol, and what timing he does have <ebel> :) <ebel> infoturtle`: in short, since it's hosted by canonical, you could ask them if you need more access. <ebel> infoturtle`: you can ask on #ubuntu-locoteams for more access details <ebel> well, you have to ask canonical ops team, and -locoteams would know where to ask there <ebel> (or czajkowski would) <ebel> However, feel free to just say 'feck it' and just use the blacknight account if you want <czajkowski> what do you need <czajkowski> we got the blacknight ac to be able to do more stuff <czajkowski> as if it's on -ie.org atm with the hosting we have limited control over changes <infoturtle`> I see, there just little thing's I would like to improve, suck as add a calendar to the sidebar to quick view events, add more colour to the theme, its a bit dead looking, I'm
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