#ubports 2018-04-01 <ubptgbot> RDB77 was added by: RDB77 <ubptgbot> <Mark> @Mark Mullins, I'm interested in the chipset they've chosen: i.MX8. I presume it's because Open drivers can be used on them. Which begs the question: why isn't there an SBC using the chipset... <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Mark, https://www.solid-run.com/nxp-family/hummingboard-pulse/ <ubptgbot> <Mark> @advocatux, Now that's very interesting! <ubptgbot> <Mark> Someone's just sent me this link too: http://www.compulab.com/products/sbcs/sbc-imx8-nxp-i-mx8m-single-board-computer/ <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Yep, I think there will be more SBCs to come <ubptgbot> <Mark> ... and am I right in thinking that the chipset is more open? <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I think the main advantage is that those processor are very well documented <ubptgbot> <Mark> ahh - Thanks for that. <ubptgbot> <Mark> I also read this yesterday: https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/03/31/0622248/open-source-risc-v-processor-gets-support-from-google-samsung-qualcomm-and-tesla Which I thought was interesting. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> [Edit] I think the main advantage is that those processors are very well documented <ubptgbot> <Mark> It doesn't say how far off it is though... <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @RDB77 !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> We need more true openhardware, that's for sure <ubptgbot> <Mark> :) Yes we do. <ubptgbot> <Zetarancio> @Tygerpro Tygerpro, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument <ubptgbot> <vgalnt> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/wZylQ6r4.webp <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @advocatux, And we need more mainline <ubptgbot> Adifher was added by: Adifher <ubptgbot> <Adifher> Whatsup <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Adifher, Hi Adif, don't forget to go to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <Adifher> Oke <ubptgbot> <advocatux> There's a lot of useful info in that page, including links to language groups <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> @Zetarancio, This was moved to an OT thread as it does not contribute to but rather distracts from ubports in general, please do not ping me about this in this thread again (not aimed specifically at you, just a message for anyone else that links that wiki to me again) <ubptgbot> RenÃ© was added by: RenÃ© <ubptgbot> W was added by: W <ubptgbot> <W> Can you load all ubunutu desktop apps on ubuntu touch? Is it possible to load whonix onto ubuntu touch and create an option to choose what to load on boot? one for the regular ubuntu touch UI and 1 for the VM <ubptgbot> <amolith> @RenÃ©, Welcome Rene! Check out the link below to get you started! â¦ ubports.com/telegram-welcome! <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @W, No <ubptgbot> <amolith> @W, No and no. Libertine would let you install desktop apps but it's broken right now. As such, you can't have something like VirtualBox even if AppArmor would let you use a virtual machine <ubptgbot> <dohbee> You can install deb packages which are built for armhf under libertine, but they aren't all necessarily going to work right, and most all will not really be usable without an external display <ubptgbot> <amolith> @W, [Edit] No and no. Libertine would let you install desktop apps but it's broken right now. As such, you can't install something like VirtualBox even if AppArmor would let you use a virtual machine <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amolith, Libertine works. It's just broken on Nexus 5 <ubptgbot> <amolith> @dohbee, Oh. I thought it was across UT. Dang . . . <ubptgbot> <W> okay cheers for the answers :) I'll play around with some options and see if I can figure out a solution <ubptgbot> <dohbee> You can still use it on Nexus 5 even, but only for CLI apps. GUI apps are what's broken with it, due to some weird error where xmir can't talk to mir <ubptgbot> <Mark> @dohbee, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA <ubptgbot> <dohbee> also, virtualbox is only x86 <ubptgbot> <amolith> @W, No problem! ð <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I think you can manually create a launcher that will make it work <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> xmir works fine <ubptgbot> <amolith> @Mark, Do you have a N5? <ubptgbot> <Mark> Yeah! <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you could theoretically use kvm/qemu, but i don't think virtualization is supported on the phone SoCs <ubptgbot> <amolith> @Javacookies, How would you go about that? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, outside of libertine, but then you're installing stuff into root and making custom launchers <ubptgbot> <dohbee> which is not nice <ubptgbot> <W> @Javacookies, that would work for loading bitmessage too? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> what is bitmessage? it is not in the ubuntu archives <ubptgbot> <W> https://scottlinux.com/2013/07/26/bitmessage-how-to-for-debian-and-ubuntu-linux/ <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @dohbee, no,I mean still using libertine for the container no the same/"wild" as me :P <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I haven't really tried it yet to be honest but I just thought it's doable <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @W, it would be way better for someone to build a native mobile app for this, if you really want to use it <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, i guess not, otherwise libertine would just work as-is <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> can't we install matchbox in the container then just use something like " matchbox /app/path/in/container" and put X-Ubuntu-XMir-Enabled=true? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, matchbox is already installed in the container <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> you know what I'll try it instead of speculating and giving nexus 5 users false hope :D <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> oh really? okay, is that the default WM that is used in libertine? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and no, you have to run the app with the container as it's root, just running /path/to/container/usr/bin/app will probably fail, because it may need libs that aren't installed in the rootfs <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, yes <ubptgbot> <dohbee> unless that changed, but i don't think it did <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @amolith, I Thought he was imitating a heavy metal guitar chord strike... <ubptgbot> <Gabriele> Libertine doesn't work only on Nexus 5? It was a cool feature of Ubuntu touch <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Gabriele, right, this is some unresolved issue with it on nexus 5 <ubptgbot> <jonny> Happy easter! <ubptgbot> <dohbee> Happy pagan fertility goddess ritual day! <ubptgbot> <jonny> ð didnt know this religion was still active. Anyway this is ot. Sorry for that. <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Heck <ubptgbot> <K31j0> (Photo, 628x208) https://irc.ubports.com/0SgWnjmj.png <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Building Halium, I see <ubptgbot> <K31j0> #JustAndroidThings <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Not even halium, trying to build Lineage14.1 to see if those sources even work <ubptgbot> <K31j0> I had to make my own ubuntu chroot for that though <ubptgbot> <K31j0> because my host is gentoo <ubptgbot> <K31j0> and gentoo obsoletes packages very quick <ubptgbot> <K31j0> good thing that 14.1 is java 8 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> finally <ubptgbot> <JoshuaAshton> Gentoo bad <ubptgbot> <K31j0> because java 7 is obsoleted everywhere <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @JoshuaAshton, why? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's a troll, buddy <ubptgbot> <dohbee> -> @ubports_ot -funroll-loops <ubptgbot> <JoshuaAshton> You spend 99% of your time rebuilding everything rather than getting work done <ubptgbot> <K31j0> -j24 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> kernel builds 2 minutes <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> If you'd like to continue that can of worms, please go to @ubports_ot <ubptgbot> <K31j0> dunno, didn't find any prebuilt distro I stayed long with, going away now, my laptop battery is dead <ubptgbot> <dohbee> 12c/24t laptop? wonder it works on battery at all :P <ubptgbot> <takaturgut> guys i was tryin to build boot image but icouldnt edit fstab thing <ubptgbot> <dohbee> there's also @halium channel for halium porting discussion <ubptgbot> <takaturgut> @dohbee, that could be better thnaks <ubptgbot> <dohbee> or group, whatever telegram calls them <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Nah, that's my main box I ssh'd to <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Dual Xeon E5-2620 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> My laptop is Thinkpad X220 Tablet, which is 2c/4t i5-2520M, gets hot when it doesn't have proper thermal paste :S <ubptgbot> <K31j0> but let's cut it right there <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @W, There are Signal and Matrix. At least one other option under development <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @takaturgut, Once the base Halium work is done, there is also a UBports porting group <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Is 57:29 ((min:s)) normal buildtime for Android with 24 threads, 24 gigabytes and no ccache/ssd? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Yep <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Good, I had to comment out some repo, we'll see if it boots <ubptgbot> <W> @Stereofont, Yeah i'm just not sure sure about signal after seeing this <ubptgbot> <W> (Video, 95s) https://irc.ubports.com/rU9Ib5fC.mp4 <ubptgbot> <ajyotirmay> @W, wow! <ubptgbot> <W> it's horrible isn't it <ubptgbot> <W> they don't even need a warrent <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Guys and gals, quick question: AnBox is being developed for 16.04 alone, right? <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> I wasn't paying much attention to it, since I didn't need any android apps so far... but now I realized I could use it for some annoying authentication system my bank has set. <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Yeah 16.04 only <ubptgbot> <K31j0> needs kernel patches <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Alright... I don't think this alone merits upgrading it. Thanks! <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Don't remember if it only requires kernel flags or some actual patches, still it's up to maintainer to take care of that. <ubptgbot> <K31j0> after general integration into distro is complete <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> I'll try it later, as long as my N4 holds alive I'll stick to tried and true 15.04 <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> did you all hear about that news release?? what the...?? On the news feed just now: https://t.me/ubports_news <ubptgbot> <Eranuzan> @wayneoutthere, Yay this is amazing allways wanted to port the clock appeared pt this system! ð <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Mky1miat.mp4 <ubptgbot> Venetin was added by: Venetin <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @W, They hack into your phone, effectively as root, so of course they have total access. If you can read it, they can <ubptgbot> <W> @Stereofont, but it even shows deleted signal messages, not just ones readable by a user <ubptgbot> <W> shows that all the data is kept on the phone <ubptgbot> <W> everything you type and say is likely all recorded <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @wayneoutthere, Not all it is cracked up to be. It only toasts in Dutch <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> The toaster was a joke right <ubptgbot> <Zack> Jammer! Had een nieuwe port verwacht! <ubptgbot> <Zack> Expected a new port for a phone <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @Mark Mullins, ð <ubptgbot> <ferds666> Luckily they didn't say anything about Wire <ubptgbot> <ferds666> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/OQk7a09k.webp <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @W, 'Delete' and 'hide' are often treated as interchangeable. Perhaps someone will fork Bleachbit for Ubuntu Touch sometime <ubptgbot> <W> @ferds666, XDXD <ubptgbot> <W> @Stereofont, you think bleaachbit would make the deleted signal messages unrecoverable? <ubptgbot> <W> if you could get whonix on ubuntu touch could have signal desktop on the VM and then the deleted files wouldn't be on the phone itself right? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @W, It could make locally stored discarded messages unrecoverable <ubptgbot> <W> @W, because with having signal desktop on the VM you could run bleachbit on the VM to make the data unrecoverable on that, then if your phone was compromised it wouldn't matter if the messenger you used was through a VM <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @W, Syncing requires centralised storage, generally <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Bleachbit is just a frontend to many other actions, it'd be easier to destroy the data from the CLI I think <ubptgbot> <ferds666> AFAIK, the best way to "delete" data on a HDD is to overwrite it with something else <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> The classic "dd" move <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> (But that's for the whole disk) <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Gorsh2, With flash memory, yes <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> On Android eMMC you use a secure discard. I don't know if UT has anything built in for that. <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Yep, there too would work, as you have your stuff on a different drive/partition <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> Aw, was excited for a moment, espasallay since we have a Ubuntu snap based refrigerator... <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @W, There is no vm <ubptgbot> <dohbee> And what happens with the he Android app has no bearing on what the UT native app does <ubptgbot> <dohbee> Not does it mean some other app wouldn't have the same issue <ubptgbot> <MUR55MM> Ubuntu touch for Xiaomi Mi 4 ? <ubptgbot> <advocatux> This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/ <ubptgbot> <samitormanen> Any ideas why clock-app hangs ~25sec after start up? Clock animation stops, no buttons work. After that time it works normally.. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Which device and what UT version? <ubptgbot> <samitormanen> Nexus 5 and 15.04. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I don't have that problem in my N5, 15.04 <ubptgbot> <samitormanen> I has worked before. I noticed this behavior last week when tried to change alarms.. <ubptgbot> <samitormanen> *it <ubptgbot> <Mark> Mine works fine too <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Someone should confirm this but I think the alarm cache is in `/home/phablet/.cache/msyncd/alarms.db.sqlite` I'd delete that file, restart the phone, and sees how it goes <ubptgbot> <ajyotirmay> yeah, the rules and regulations about the mis/use of technology is not clearly defined. And that's f-ed up for sure. <ubptgbot> <Slucepan> Wow just read about bacon for rosters. I heard rumers that a years type device is in the making with famous podcast artist Evolution Tera doing the voice prompts. <ubptgbot> <Slucepan> Evo Tera. <ubptgbot> <ajyotirmay> @W, yeah, the rules and regulations about the mis/use of technology is not clearly defined. And that's f-ed up for sure. <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @Slucepan, Hmm, I'm not sure that voice navigation for Baken is planned yet. <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @UniversalSuperBox, But it does have popups <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I love you guys XD <ubptgbot> <K31j0> With booting CM, I'm halfway through <ubptgbot> <K31j0> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0udUeeWX.png <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Does VP8 work on UT? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Or is it device-dependent or is it broken? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the video codec? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> yep <ubptgbot> <K31j0> the webm one <ubptgbot> <K31j0> On Sailfish it's entierely broken, dunno about Halium/UT <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i guess it probably works in browser, don't know if there's a codec for gstreamer installed; and i guess the hardware doesn't have it <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> @Stereofont, Can it abort though? It needs to have abort functionality. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> oh, it's in gst-plugins-good, so it should work <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @YougoChats, It must carry the toast to full term <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> But we need to abort the toast! <ubptgbot> ksjff was added by: ksjff <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> https://youtu.be/zeTy6uewZZo <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @ksjff !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started. <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @YougoChats, Patience people. We must first converge the toast before we get back to mobiles <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Baken allows us to reach all people with the brand <ubptgbot> <Lakotaubp> @YougoChats, Only after OTA4 and GPS plate location. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, You converge the toast by filling the quota of bacon between the two slices, and inserting it into your face. <ubptgbot> SexyBeast420 was added by: SexyBeast420 <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Uhh, hi, where can i buy a toaster? <ubptgbot> G_Raffe was added by: G_Raffe <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Hello guys. I don't have github acc, but saw an issue that nexus 5 is not being detected on mac in bootloader apparently as all other devices. I found a workaround for this <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> To make it work open terminal <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> and type <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> sudo open -a ubports-installer <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> This will open programm with priviligies to use system features, in our case - fastboot <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> I just had a successful installation <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Welcome! <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @wayneoutthere, Uhh, hi, where can i buy a toaster <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> ? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> First question - why clock app crashes? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @SexyBeast420, Target <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @G_Raffe, 16.04? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> yep <ubptgbot> <dohbee> because it's unstable still and those issues have yet to be resolved <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Oh, okau <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> If you'd like a more stable experience, use 15.04 <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> will alarm work? Cause looks like I have no way to disable it now lol <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> You can change your installation from the Installer. <opendata> What does ubports use to get the battery percentage <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @G_Raffe, If an alarm is created and enabled it should work still yes. The clock app doesn't run the alarm process itself, that's deeper in the system <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> NIce than. Thank you <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @opendata, it gets it from the kernel <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @G_Raffe, but 16.04 is still unstable so there could of course be some other bug that would cause it to not run <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> I'm totally fine with unstable builds, that's kinda experiment for me=) <opendata> Not even upower <opendata> ! <opendata> ? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> what do you mean? repowerd is the dbus service <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and it gets power info from the kernel of course <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> annnd wi-fi doesn't work after reboot. Got the point, installing stable build <ubptgbot> <Montefrio> http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/home_eng.html <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @Montefrio please do not post inappropriate links <ubptgbot> <Montefrio> ok <ubptgbot> <Montefrio> sorry #ubports 2018-04-02 <ubptgbot> <Zack> How to resolve unknown error: downloading boot.img <ubptgbot> <Zack> For fairphone 2? <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> Does the toaster have snaps? is it available with xenial? <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> I'm so annoyed the toaster abandoned scopes for good. I really liked the old "Bread" scope. <ubptgbot> <amolith> Does Libertine work with Baken? Or am I stuck with Anbox for my toasting apps? <ubptgbot> ramffm was added by: ramffm <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @ramffm, Hi R M, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed <ubptgbot> <prpleXist> How do i download call pro f is no longer available in software centre <ubptgbot> <Mark> @Javacookies, I think so... but in 16.04 <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @Mark, create a bread in a snap! awesome! <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @prpleXist, Are you talking about F-Call? It's propietary software but you can try to convince the author to publish it in th OpenStore <ubptgbot> <advocatux> You can send him/her an email, the address is in https://uappexplorer.com/app/f-call-intro.f-call <ubptgbot> <advocatux> You'll need to click on email support and resolve a captcha <ubptgbot> <Ingo_FP_Angel> @Zack, When/where does this error occur? <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @prpleXist, Certainly does look like useful software... <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Guys, am I the only person who cannot get secret chats working? <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> its not yet implemented <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Ubuntu touch ports are only available for phones that have cm11 available? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> [Edit] Ubuntu touch ports are only available for phones that have cm11? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @malditobastardo, Ñ Ð¼, there's an option in the app <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SexyBeast420, More complicated than that. The existence of a Lineage port means that a proportion (30%) of the work of Halium + UBports has already been done, giving a head start. The Lineage version does not matter, as far as I know <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @Stereofont, My point is: Can Ubuntu Touch work i theory, if its a new phone? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @Stereofont, [Edit] My point is: Can Ubuntu Touch work in theory, if its a new phone? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> when there's cm-12.1/lineage14.1 then yes <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, >Lineage 14.1 â¦ Okay, if its a Samsung Device? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> there was some work on galaxy s7 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> in Halium <ubptgbot> <K31j0> but dunno if it was successful <ubptgbot> <K31j0> when picking up samsung device, be aware that it might be harder <ubptgbot> <K31j0> due to Knox/SEAndroid <ubptgbot> <clannad> @K31j0, SEAndroid <ubptgbot> <clannad> Yeah sure <ubptgbot> <clannad> Like it doesn't exist on aosp <ubptgbot> <K31j0> IIRC it had some hooks in bootloader to enforce SELinux <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Wait, android doesn't have any bootloader <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, Its barely booting, it seems <ubptgbot> <Zack> @Ingo_FP_Angel, Thanks Ingo for asking! It fortunately has been solved! <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> @G_Raffe, yes but its not working atm <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Which device are you after? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, Herolte <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Samsung galaxy s7 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> ohnoes <ubptgbot> <K31j0> So just take sources that are already there <ubptgbot> <K31j0> and work on them <ubptgbot> <K31j0> you don't have other branch to choose than halium-7.1 <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @malditobastardo, and as I understand - no way to use secret chats for now? <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> niet <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> ne rabotaie <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> did anyone tried installing official ubuntu app on phone? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> [Edit] did anyone tried installing official telegram for ubuntu app on phone? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHp7WaZueQ <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Now i just need to ask for it <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Like, a thousand times <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @G_Raffe, The whole of Telegram is being recoded. The next veneration of Telegram on Ubuntu Touch will be based on that but don't expect rapid progress. When that is done, most newer features will probably work <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @G_Raffe, [Edit] The whole of Telegram is being recoded. The next generation of Telegram on Ubuntu Touch will be based on that but don't expect rapid progress. When that is done, most newer features will probably work <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @Stereofont, Basic chats are stored on Telegram servers <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> But not the secret ones <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @Stereofont, Okay than. Thanks for the explanation <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @SexyBeast420, That won't help nearly as much as actually getting involved with it <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> They are using Dyffy - Hellman encryption, keys of which are stored locally <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @G_Raffe, Existing UT Telegram is based off Cutegram. About two years out of date â¦ <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @UniversalSuperBox, For beta-testing purposes, ofc <ubptgbot> <K31j0> are basic chats encrypted too? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @SexyBeast420 what is the resolution of that? everything looks so small <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Scaling hasn't been set. https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/running-ut.html#display-scaling <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, Basic chats are stored on telegram servers <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Telegram and, mostly, Pavel Durov is at war with Russian Government because of the Secret chats <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0, WDHQ <ubptgbot> <K31j0> numeric values? I never remember those letter markings, is it 1440x25something? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> 1440Ñ 2560 <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @K31j0 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> okay <ubptgbot> petrkost was added by: petrkost <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Hello ÐÐµÑÑ. To read more about UBports check out this link. We also have a group in Russian â¦ https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @SexyBeast420 Don't get me wrong, Samsungs have good specs and are pretty decent looking, always didn't like the front button and software though <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Sexy Beast 420 - are you more sexy or more beast? <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> I lean more on the sexy side myself <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> Maybe more 420 :O <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @exar_kun, statistically valid data <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Any beast can become sexy after some 420=) <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @G_Raffe, that's the part of the movie Disney cut out <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Well, considering the smoke around beast when he turned into prince lol <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/NptJxbiW.webp <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Anyway, are there any underwater stones with Sailfish to expect? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @SexyBeast420, Its owned by Russian RosTech, so.... <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> well, half of it but stll <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Im not Russian, so yeah, RKN can go away <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Any work there would probably be through the Halium project <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @SexyBeast420, If you are russian - you are banned by RKN, if you are from somewhere else - you are hacked by russian hackers. This, as we say here, classic two chair situation <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i don't know what yall are even talking about at this point (aside from russia of course), cay you get back on topic please? <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @G_Raffe, Whats the point of having trackers in a FOSS os? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> @SexyBeast420, Ask chinese guys. â¦ https://news.drweb.com/show/?i=11749&lng=en <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @G_Raffe, >Dr. Web â¦ Trash. <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Yes, but malware in chinese phones is real. Adwares were there for like 2 or 3 years already, so malware is totally possible also <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Chinese phones are bad by default <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> With some exceptions <ubptgbot> <dohbee> people please <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> If you'd like to discuss more about not-ubuntu-touch, please go to @ubports_ot <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @UniversalSuperBox, Done <ubptgbot> <dohbee> There's a separate group for OT discussions, as this is <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Ok, i got it <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Uhh, is it necessary to build your own HAL or you can use from a LineageOS? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> Some config changes and patches to the kernel are required for ubuntu to work <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> [Edit] Uhh, is it necessary to build your own HAL or you can use one from a LineageOS? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It all begins at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html <ubptgbot> Alex Lawrence was added by: Alex Lawrence <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> hello. i tried to use ubports installer for my fairphone 2 and it didnÂ´t work. â¦ os: mac os high sierra â¦ device: fairphone 2 â¦ issues: â¦ - latest release of ubports installer found the device but did not do anything <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> hello. i tried to use ubports installer for my fairphone 2 and it didnÂ´t work. â¦ os: mac os high sierra â¦ device: fairphone 2 â¦ ubuntu touch version: latest stable â¦ wipe: yes â¦ issues: â¦ - latest release of ubports installer found the device but did not do anything â¦ - clone of the git repo did not find the device but started <ubptgbot> the process after manually setting the device â¦ - however, the process did not succeed â¦ output: â¦ info: Instructing manual reboot â¦ debug: checking password â¦ debug: correct password â¦ debug: fastboot: wait for device â¦ info: Download startCheck â¦ info: checked: recovery.img â¦ info: Exists /Users/alexlawrence/Library/Caches/ubportsimages/FP2/reco <ubptgbot> very.img â¦ info: checked: boot.img â¦ info: Exists /Users/alexlawrence/Library/Caches/ubportsimages/FP2/boot.img â¦ info: Download complete â¦ info: done downloading(once listener) â¦ debug: fastboot: flash; [object Object],[object Object] â¦ info: Booting into recovery image... â¦ error: Devices: Error: Fastboot: Unknown error: downloading 'boot.img'.. <ubptgbot> . â¦ OKAY [ 0.359s] â¦ booting... â¦ FAILED (remote: bootimage: incomplete or not signed) â¦ finished. total time: 0.360s <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Oh wow... Please, if you need to post a lot of information into a message, use a service like paste.ubuntu.com. <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Is your bootloader unlocked? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> We've got a room with people who seem to be pretty hip with the install process. You can find it and some good starter information on this page over here: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> oh, iÂ´m sorry <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> unfortunately, i donÂ´t know whether my bootloader is unlocked. i only had the stock android on the fp2 and at some point i switched to fp open. <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Probably not, then. I'd still recommend the Install room, but you can try `fastboot oem unlock` in the mean time. <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> [Edit] hello. i tried to use ubports installer for my fairphone 2 and it didnÂ´t work. â¦ os: mac os high sierra â¦ device: fairphone 2 â¦ ubuntu touch latest stable, wipe: yes â¦ issues: â¦ - latest release of ubports installer found the device but did not do anything â¦ - clone of the git repo did not find the device but started th <ubptgbot> e process after manually setting the device â¦ - however, the process did not succeed â¦ output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxGMHn4j99/ <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> alright, thank you. will post it in the other room <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> sorry for spamming <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> No problem, just know for next time. Makes people not yell at you on the internet. :P <ubptgbot> <Alex Lawrence> :) <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @UniversalSuperBox, Success ð <ubptgbot> <Jo_Led> Congratz! <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> On this occasion persistence alone paid off. I claim no credit <ubptgbot> <gab11010> FYI: https://copperhead.co/ <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> That's been around for a while. What do you think? <ubptgbot> <samzn> good evening <ubptgbot> <NotKit> just remembered the Manhattan UI :) <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> @gab11010, >AOSP repack <ubptgbot> <K31j0> >pixel/nexus only <ubptgbot> <SexyBeast420> Obv a geekphone <ubptgbot> <K31j0> With nexuses dead <ubptgbot> <K31j0> android is dead to me as a platform <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Sidenote 3: If selinux is disabled (or set to permissive), the device will show you a red warning "kernel is not seandroid enforcing" on top of the screen. This should not prevent the phone from booting <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Oh that's what I'm talking about <ubptgbot> <K31j0> I'd be annoyed because of that #ubports 2018-04-03 <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> Excuse me when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shut down/restart properly. Where should this change be concerned? <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> Excuse me, when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shutdown/restart properly. Where should this change be concerned? <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> please help me <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> What should I do? <ubptgbot> vairam_vs was added by: vairam_vs <ubptgbot> Peter Conrad was added by: Peter Conrad <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> https://github.com/kuailexs/porting-log <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> i do not know which is related to shutdown <ubptgbot> <OnePlus3T_Gaurav> Still no port for op3T? <ubptgbot> <popescu_sorin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtYoRBdjQY0&feature=youtu.be&t=10 <ubptgbot> <popescu_sorin> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cKy6U0bh.webp <ubptgbot> Daniel Bradford was added by: Daniel Bradford <ubptgbot> <Daniel Bradford> Hey! I was wondering if you guys had considered porting Ubuntu Touch to Project Treble? In theory it would enable a much wider range of devices with minimal effort <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @popescu_sorin, that's progress. :) <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> @mariogrip Excuse me, when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shutdown/restart properly. Which aspect should be concerned? <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @kuailexs, We also dont know it. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. You have to hack a lot into your device files to make this work properly. <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Project Treble only changes effort level on Android <ubptgbot> <K31j0> for now at least <ubptgbot> <K31j0> if Halium guys focus treble, we'll get it in effect, but now there's no Oreo support to begin with, IIRC that was introduced in Oreo <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Are AppArmor patches documented in porting guide? <ubptgbot> <Mark> Is it right to assume that basic functions are working in N5 in 16.04? i.e. Can I phone, SMS, and use the official browser? Does Telegram work? Actually, what would be really useful would be a list of apps that work, and those which don't. <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Yeah, there are only flags to be enabled, checked by a script, what if I don't have AppArmor in my kernel? Did anyone have to backport that? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @kuailexs, This group is not the best place to ask. Are you still building Halium for the device or have you completed that stage? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Mark, Not sure. Telegram does not work though <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @K31j0, Not to a fully extent. The AA porting is so complex its not easy to describe. If you are lucky you can use an existing kernel port <ubptgbot> <Mark> @Stereofont, Thanks for that. <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> @Stereofont, base on ubp-5.1 <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> @Stereofont, It can be used normally. But it cannot shutdown/retart properly.Must be forced to shut down <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @kuailexs, This is because the shutdown is device-specific and no 2 devices are shutting down in the samye way. The vendor makes this possible, and it needs to be done like in Android, otherwise it wont work. Also that there is "charge mode" where Android is started even when the phone is off if you connect a cable. Sometimes <ubptgbot> Ubuntu Touch just starts, as it does not understand it should be i ncharge mode only. <ubptgbot> <unknown> Is this device interesting for Ubuntu touch too? â¦ https://www.xda-developers.com/planet-computer-gemini-pda-lineageos-14-1/ <ubptgbot> <W> in regards to devices that aren't officially supported, the OS will still work right? but just with glitches possibly <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> No, it will not work at all <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> @unknown, it says on the page that radio doesn't work (yet). even if porting succeeds, the lack of radio will persist in UT likewise i think <ubptgbot> <unknown> @YougoChats, But it also says that you can boot GNU/Linux <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Pretty sure someone is working on the Gemini... <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> there are several ways of doing that. probably none of those are how Ubuntu Touch works <ubptgbot> <W> ah okie <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> but the integrated physical keyboard is very interesting indeed <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, Yes, @NotKit has it sort of working <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> But it's Mediatek, so he's submitting lots of patches <ubptgbot> <NotKit> I'm not basing on Lineage, but on AOSP BSP actually. <ubptgbot> <unknown> I read that sailfish os is supported <ubptgbot> <unknown> What Linux distribution will Gemini run? â¦ We are currently talking to a few companies representing different Linux flavours and we are considering a number of options but the decision has not been taken yet. We are also taking into accounts comments from the backers into consideration, including Sailfish & Ubuntu OS, which haveÂ bee <ubptgbot> n suggested several times. â¦ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device--2#/ <ubptgbot> <unknown> Ubuntu OS = UT or desktop? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no idea what they mean there <ubptgbot> <NotKit> what was demostrated is desktop with GNOME Shell <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Probably Ubuntu proper <ubptgbot> <dohbee> GPD Pocket is a similar device that's x86 and can run any Linux <ubptgbot> <NotKit> because it's x86 :) <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes <ubptgbot> Lexi was added by: Lexi <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Guys, if I use Libertian - is it possible to run official telegram app? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> No, it's not built for ARM <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you can probably run it inside libertine if you compile it for ARM <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> Okay, thanks! <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you could probably package it as a click and run it without libertine too, since it's qt <ubptgbot> <dohbee> might not scale nicely or be usable, but should at least be able to forgo the need for X11, and get a little better system integration with keyboard and such <ubptgbot> <samzn> @NotKit, We never forget Harmattan <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee, Its qt? Sure? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Flohack, the telegram desktop app? pretty sure, yes <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I think there's some components from Electron, too. Not sure how they fit together though <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> No, telegram-desktop is completely Qt. It also runs on Plasma Mobile <ubptgbot> <dohbee> https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it's a bit of a pain to build <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> Debian has some patches to build it against the system libraries. <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> I guess building the debian package for Xenial and repacking it into a click is the easiest way. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yay night mode <ubptgbot> <dohbee> does camera app work for anyone on 16.04 builds? <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @dohbee, Both photo and video camera work in my E4.5 <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> @dohbee, Camera works but not video I think, at least in N5 <ubptgbot> <dohbee> hmm. i am trying to figure out why Camera component is not working on 18.04 for me <ubptgbot> <dohbee> but i guess it's not strictly "qt 5.9 broke something" :-/ <ubptgbot> Jean-Pierre MAILLARD was added by: Jean-Pierre MAILLARD <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> Hello Everyone, â¦ I'm trying to install UBports on my new BQ M10 FHD (Android version) but after a few seconds, I get a message about format of the systme and recovery partitions: â¦ "FAILED (remote: format for partition 'system' is not allowed)" â¦ Is there a way to have the partition enable for a new system? â¦ Thank you <ubptgbot> ! <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> You need to install Ubuntu on your device from a factory image before you are able to use the installer <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices <ubptgbot> <cls006> Is WINE hq available in UBports? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> You can probably install it in libertine, but you'd need Windows apps compiled for ARM <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Read: none of them <ubptgbot> <dohbee> wine isn't available for ARM in ubuntu repos <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so firstly you'd need to get wine compiled for ARM, and then you'd need Win RT apps <ubptgbot> <samzn> Wine on ARM is a hell to get working <ubptgbot> <samzn> just use qemu-user <ubptgbot> <samzn> @dohbee, 18.04 builds are already available? <ubptgbot> ignorare was added by: ignorare <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> No, he's hacking around on 18.04 <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i'm porting an app to qqc2 on x86 <ubptgbot> <samzn> It's been a long while since I've went around Ubuntu Touch <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Hi guys! Did anybody of you successfully install UBports on a Nexus 5 with 32 GB? Or does UBports only work on the 16 GB-version? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Works fine on the 32GB version <ubptgbot> <samzn> @ignorare, Should work on any Hammerhead <ubptgbot> <samzn> I want to try to go around full time with Ubports again <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Great! Thanks a lot! ð <ubptgbot> <samzn> @dohbee, does 16.04 have qqc2 support yet <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it works fine if one successfully replaced the flash with 64GB chip too <ubptgbot> <ignorare> @dohbee, Oh, wow! ð <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Is that a big work? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Very <ubptgbot> <samzn> you'll need a reballing station <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Haha, okay. I am out... ð <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @samzn, i'm talking about stock ubuntu, not ubuntu on phones <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Thank you very much guys! ððð <ubptgbot> <samzn> @dohbee, ah <ubptgbot> <dohbee> but ubports 16.04 devel is using qt 5.9 as well (which is what is in 18.04 stock), so i was wondering if the same issues might be showing up there <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> How would you launch a Libertine program from the UT Terminal app? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> with ubuntu-app-launch <ubptgbot> <dohbee> `ubuntu-app-launch container_firefox_0.0` for example <ubptgbot> <dohbee> `ubuntu-app-launch-appids | grep container` to see what apps are available in `container` <ubptgbot> <samzn> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EqyfgBrn.png <ubptgbot> <samzn> Welcome back old friend <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Meh, apparently devel Xenial still can't open programs by that method. <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It should but what actually happens <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> ubuntu-app-launch uses the same stuff as Unity8 does to launch apps... so if it was completely broken, no apps would launch <ubptgbot> <dohbee> probably same issue that n5 had? <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> I see the splash screen of the program, but then nothing and a revert back to teh terminal. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> sounds like same issue as on n5 <ubptgbot> <dohbee> check the log for the app in `~/.cache/upstart/` to see what went wrong <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Or more accurately just the program's icon rather than a startup splash screen. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes, the u8 splash screen you get for all starting apps <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> "proot info: pid 10749: terminated with signal 11" <ubptgbot> <dohbee> oh that's no fun <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> And ditto with pid 11107 <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yeah that means it crashed <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> What does it mean? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so not the same as on n5 <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so something segfaulted <ubptgbot> <dohbee> is there something in `/var/crash/` that looks relevant? <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> everything segfaults <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> No just stuff regarding system settings there AFAICS. <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> What are you trying to run? <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Whatever really, started with Firefox and Libre Office Writer. <ubptgbot> <samzn> does anbox work on 16.04? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> on devices where it is currently enabled, yes <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so not on nexus 5 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> The Pro 5 and M10's <ubptgbot> <samzn> @dohbee, that's really great to hear <ubptgbot> <ignorare> @samzn, Some news available about Anbox at all? ðð <ubptgbot> <samzn> @ignorare, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> @UniversalSuperBox, Thank you very much Dalton Durst for this information! (It still does not work yet but I will have another try tomorrow. Will keep you posted.) <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Jean-Pierre MAILLARD, If you make a username in Telegram you can be pinged and be invited to groups, such as the install groupâ¦ <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> @Stereofont, Thank you for the tip Lionelb! <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Jean-Pierre MAILLARD, You can go into Settings to do that <ubptgbot> <Zack> Is Ubuntu Touch available for Samsung s6? <ubptgbot> <JPMMPJ> @Stereofont, Done! Thanks again Lionelb! <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Zack, Nope. See http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices <ubptgbot> <Zack> Thank you! <ubptgbot> <advocatux> ð <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> @advocatux, There was a video recently of ubuntu touch on the Samsung s something or other <ubptgbot> <dohbee> 7 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @PhoenixLandPirate, S7 <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> Okay <ubptgbot> <Zack> I saw the video, really exciting updates <ubptgbot> <advocatux> ZeroPointEnergy went from beginner in November https://forums.ubports.com/topic/755/android-mobile-device-hell-porting-halium-to-galaxy-s7 to video star in February ð <ubptgbot> Jishnurajm was added by: Jishnurajm <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Hello Jishnu. If you would like to read more about UBports, check the link â¦ https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Also â¦ https://t.me/UBports_India <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @cls006, consider anbox to the 'the wine of ubuntu touch' ;) <ubptgbot> <dohbee> anbox isn't a reimplementation of android though <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> i am so out to lunch on this cloud that i don't even have anything further to say which is... out of my character! good day for anyone who wants to take shots at me though! ;) <ubptgbot> <Mark> @cls006, UBports Port existed for a very short time on Sunday. <ubptgbot> Vasilis Ziogou was added by: Vasilis Ziogou <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> hi <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> i want to install ubuntu touch in turbo-x Hive 3g (Greek model). it runs android 4.4.2 but i cant get into bootloader <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> can you help me? <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it is not a supported device <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Vasilis Ziogou, The bootloader is the smallest of the problems <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Vasilis Ziogou, To learn about UBports, check this â¦ https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/ <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> That is the list of supported devices. More are on the way but sadly not yours <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> so there is no other way that it can work on my device? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> It is a Mali processor. I don't think anyone has ported a Mali device. BQ M10 us the only properly supported tablet, although you can do something with a 2013 Nexus 7 <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> ð <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> thnx <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Vasilis Ziogou, First, it would need a Halium port. A difficult and frustrating process. Usually Qualcomm processors ate preferred because they are not so closed <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> At the moment we don't have a Greek language group but we would like to <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Stereofont, which SoC exactly? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Mali-450 MP; ARM; OpenGL ES-CM 1.1; OpenGL ES 2.0 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> MediaTek MT8392, ok <ubptgbot> <NotKit> thankfully some Greek letters look similar to cyrillics <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @NotKit, Maybe because Cyrrilos was greek <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @NotKit, [Edit] Maybe because Cyrrilos was Greek <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> ð¹ð¹ <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @NikosChat, yeah <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Vasilis Ziogou, I checked a bit, it doesn't have kernel source code provided by manufacturer. Unfortunately, you're generally out of luck with lesser known "regional" devices. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> more like some cyrillic letters look similar to Greek ;) <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Vasilis Ziogou, Incidentally, if you make a username in Telegram, it assists because you can be pinged and it is possible to add you to groups <ubptgbot> <NotKit> https://www.plaisio.gr/tablet/tablets/tablets-all/Turbo-X-Hive-V-Octacore-9-7-3G-Milamu-DI-9733.htm - it's just for example, "Î¤ÎÎ§ÎÎÎÎ Î§ÎÎ¡ÎÎÎ¤ÎÎ¡ÎÎ£Î¤ÎÎÎ" reads almost fine for Russian speaker ("Ð¢ÐÐ¥ÐÐÐÐ Ð¥ÐÐ ÐÐÐ¢ÐÐ ÐÐ¡Ð¢ÐÐÐ", not correct in Russian, but understandable) <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> Technical characteristic <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> Panynmaiu <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> Russian or English is obviously based on Greek words <ubptgbot> <NotKit> probably even more Greek words borrowed than in English <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @NikosChat, If a Greek group is desired, a conversation could start in the Lab <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Vasilis Ziogou, [Edit] First, it would need a Halium port. A difficult and frustrating process. Usually Qualcomm processors are preferred because they are not so closed <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> I am Greek but I don't know if there are other Greeks that are interested in a Greek language group <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @Stereofont, Which Lab? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @NikosChat, Generally, when a group is started, others appear <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @Stereofont, OK let's create it then <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @NikosChat, I tried to add you but your privacy settings do not allow <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @Stereofont, Can you try again <ubptgbot> <NikosChat> @Stereofont, [Edit] Can you try again? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @NikosChat, ð <ubptgbot> <Donieck> Which kernel version is in UT 16.04? <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> what browser does ut use <ubptgbot> <K31j0> @Donieck, Whichever you bese on <ubptgbot> <K31j0> depends on the device <ubptgbot> <K31j0> ranging from 3.4 to 4.4 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> no rule <ubptgbot> <Donieck> @K31j0, Is have UT 16.04? Can you write uname -r in terminal and hand this up to me? <ubptgbot> <K31j0> What device do you have? <ubptgbot> <Donieck> nexus 5 with UT 15.04 <ubptgbot> <K31j0> That'll have the same kernel <ubptgbot> <K31j0> hence you can't upgrade kernels on android devices <ubptgbot> <K31j0> If you bump up the release to the extent it changes API/ABI, device becomes unbootable <ubptgbot> <K31j0> and you can't do anything about this <ubptgbot> <K31j0> because we need blobs man <ubptgbot> <K31j0> else nothing works <ubptgbot> <K31j0> Iiiif you want to reverse engineer everything and write FOSS drivers for that that'd go into mainline, I got no problem with that <ubptgbot> <K31j0> but ain't nobody got time for that <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Mark Mullins, Native is webbrowser-app which is based on chromium content api #ubports 2018-04-04 <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> does ut have terminal <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Indeed it does <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Actually has pretty amazing features... Making something so keyboard heavy work on a touch screen was no small feat but they did that part marvelously <ubptgbot> <amolith> Mycroft for Ubuntu Touch. Thoughts? <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> I think the ever evasive will out there had proposed this ;) <ubptgbot> eo0xff was added by: eo0xff <ubptgbot> <amolith> @wayneoutthere, I don't think I've met him . . . â¦ Do you know what it would take to integrate it into UT as fully as Google Now is in Android? <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @amolith, See https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/community-update-21-79 <ubptgbot> <advocatux> MyCroft AI integration â> Marius demonstrated some integration a long time ago but without the UI. This is not a priority until we reach the 16.04 milestone. We will leave this to the community until we can combine efforts. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @eo0xff, Hi 0xfff leo, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started <ubptgbot> <petya230> we have hybris oreo device tree? :D <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> @advocatux, Mycroft would be cool, but idk how Mycroft is developing as a voice assistant, I haven't heard how good or bad it is since the beans incident <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Mark Mullins, Still Oxide derivative of Chromium I believe. Though Xenial offers other possibilities? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @PhoenixLandPirate, Beans? I am intriguedâ¦ <ubptgbot> <Lyokanthrope> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5J7vVQNkCw ? <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> ^ <ubptgbot> Alex was added by: Alex <ubptgbot> <Alex> I have a pixel 2 XL any luck on installing? <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @PhoenixLandPirate, I played some months ago with Mycroft running on a Raspberry pi 3 and it clearly needed a lot of development. I'm downloading the last picroft version right now and I'll see how is these days <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> @advocatux, I believe there was suppose to be a big update in February. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I'm downloading Picroft - 2018-3-14 <ubptgbot> federurio was added by: federurio <ubptgbot> <federurio> Hello, i would like to install ub on my old nexus 7 <ubptgbot> <federurio> where i can fine the image file? <ubptgbot> <G_Raffe> There's no ready image available, unfortunately. You can port UT to your device however <ubptgbot> <unknown> @advocatux, Do you know snips? <ubptgbot> <unknown> Snips.ai <opendata> federurio <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @federurio, Is it 2012 or 2013 model? <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @federurio, Hello Federico. You can find out more about UBports at â¦ https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome <ubptgbot> <federurio> 2012 wifi <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @unknown, Nope but I know it now ð <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Alex, Unfortunately not. This was mentioned yesterday though â¦ https://copperhead.co/ <ubptgbot> <unknown> @advocatux, I use it to control my self made offline smart home - it is only for speech recognition - but it does work pretty good <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Hmm the license wouldn't allow to integrate snips in UBports for free <ubptgbot> AkshitGarg was added by: AkshitGarg <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @AkshitGarg !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started. <ubptgbot> <Donieck> Are tabs webbrowser-app in sandbox? <ubptgbot> <unknown> @advocatux, Are you sure - this isn't a commercial project <ubptgbot> <unknown> On GitHub the code is MIT or Apache 2 <ubptgbot> <advocatux> The license is dual https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o-P2cYze_pMv-8MClMuUBEdPET8vLyGVAw145lq2ePM/pub <ubptgbot> <advocatux> We should move to OT if we are going to keep talking about snips.ai <ubptgbot> <NotKit> what daemon/part of Ubuntu controls device power state, such as going to sleep with screen off? <ubptgbot> <TronFortyTwo> @NotKit, Not sure but Powerd maybe is related? <ubptgbot> <NotKit> thanks <ubptgbot> <NotKit> wonder why powerd is not forked by UBPorts then <ubptgbot> <DanChapman> @NotKit, It is https://github.com/ubports/repowerd <ubptgbot> <NotKit> repowerd? interesting <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @advocatux, I don't know.. this seems.. on topic. UT is revolutionary.. this is kind of a 'standard need' now and I think it's a fair discussion to say 'what's up with voice and UT" <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> @DanChapman, Strictly, repowerd is a powerd replacement, not a fork. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @wayneoutthere, You're the boss so we'll keep it here ð <ubptgbot> <DanChapman> @alan_griffiths, Ah ok, thanks! I wasn't sure if it was a modified fork of powerd or it's own thing. Was just looking for some documentation somewhere on the rationale behind it. But kind find anything really. <ubptgbot> <Mohannes> @advocatux, Wait, this I miss a memo...@wayneoutthere is boss now? <ubptgbot> <Mohannes> @advocatux, [Edit] Wait, did I miss a memo...@wayneoutthere is boss now? <ubptgbot> <Mohannes> You get sick for a couple of days and all of a sudden. Wayne rises to power. <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Mohannes, Not really but he's suffering a lot with that NC installation and I wanted to ease his pain ð <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @alan_griffiths, But the ubports repo is a "fork" of the original repowerd <ubptgbot> <DanChapman> @alan_griffiths, [Edit] Ah ok, thanks! I wasn't sure if it was a modified fork of powerd or it's own thing. Was just looking for some documentation somewhere on the rationale behind it. But cant find anything really. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> strictly speaking ;) <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> I wasn't closely involved but repowerd was the result of frustration with the fragile interactions between unity-system-compositor and powerd. There were issues both with the code and the architecture. Once some test cases were set out it became clear a rewrite was the cleanest way forwards. <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yeah. repowerd is definitely better <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> Yes, the code doesn't hurt my eyes. <ubptgbot> <Ihsound> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bGFAJwC7.png Excuse me, can i get help with this? <ubptgbot> <Ihsound> Idk what's going on, my ubuntu error <ubptgbot> <algorrapti> fsck /dev/sdXX and check the / integrity <ubptgbot> <algorrapti> [Edit] fsck /dev/sdXX to check the / integrity <ubptgbot> <algorrapti> [Edit] fsck /dev/sdXX to check the root(/) integrity <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Ihsound, irc #ubuntu on freenode for general support with ubuntu on PCs, this group is about ubuntu touch on phones/tablets <ubptgbot> <Ihsound> @dohbee, Ok, i am sorry. My bad. Just ignore my chat <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @advocatux, you don;'t know the full pain <ubptgbot> <Ihsound> Sorry everyone <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @wayneoutthere, I've been following your cloud series. Better than netflix ð <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> like watching a man walk on hot coals <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> ouch... owwwww.... man.... oh... ouch! oh.... <ubptgbot> Jonathan Jenkins was added by:
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