#kubuntu-council 2016-02-08
<valorie> I'm updating our planning notes
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-09
<ovidiu-florin> where?
<ovidiu-florin> valorie: ^
<valorie> ovidiu-florin: the notes in the /topic
<valorie> plz to add stuffs
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-10
<clivejo> is there any way to get build permission on KCI without being Kubuntu member?
<clivejo> I cant get onto wiki.kubuntu.org to make a profile
<clivejo> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ doesnt work either
<yofel> KCI: no, that's controlled through the team membership and would need a CI change
<yofel> doesn't work in what way? Login to moinmoin is as flaky as it gets. Like if you click on continue and the page doesn't load leave it alone, it might respond after a couple minutes
<yofel> and protip: never ever log out
<clivejo> could I be made a special temporary member :P
<clivejo> pretty please oh right honourable lord Yofel the 1st
<yofel> no, that would be a policy violation
<valorie> clivejo: after us begging you for months to become a member, what's the sudden rush?
<valorie> lol
<clivejo> KCI
<clivejo> I dont have build permission
<clivejo> :(
<valorie> ah
<valorie> well, are the stupid wikis back up yet?
<valorie> damn moinmoin.....
<clivejo> no
<valorie> just use notes.kde.org or so
<clivejo> https://paste.kde.org/plt3fqpoq/e5xwi3
<clivejo> password = phils username
<valorie> yeah, same crap I got last night
<valorie> why password it?
<clivejo> not sure what that information is being output
<valorie> ok
<valorie> so, I can get in through wiki.ubuntu.com
<valorie> try that
<clivejo> could be a key or something in that data, just being safe
<valorie> cool
<clivejo> ok I can sign in via wiki.ubuntu.com
<valorie> so make your page through there
<clivejo> how?!?
<valorie> it will also be able to reached through wiki.kubuntu.org
<valorie> just make a new page
<clivejo> oh cheese sticks
<clivejo> Ive edited the home page!
<clivejo> how on earth do I create a page
<valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~clivejo?action=edit&template=KubuntuTemplate
<valorie> fill in that sucker
 * clivejo cries
<clivejo> help me, please
<valorie> this is mine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ValorieZimmerman
<valorie> copy whatever you like
<valorie> I particularly like the list of IRC chans
<valorie> found that on somebody's page
<valorie> be sure to add a testimonial section and bully all your friends into filling it out
<clivejo> hows that looking?
<valorie> good, you can list an alternate email if you want, you know
<clivejo> will you add a testimonial for me please?
<valorie> done
<valorie> finally
<valorie> I keep forgetting how to do the signature
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-11
<ahoneybun> I believe I sent an email to the list about clive's membership, not sure if it really went though
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-12
<ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: it did
<clivejo> ovidiu-florin: http://doodle.com/poll/e3mxbfpdexdcbbck
<clivejo> anything there suits you?
<ovidiu-florin> clivejo: done
<clivejo> ovidiu-florin: thanks :)
<yofel> done
<clivejo> yofel: thankyou
<clivejo> who else do I need?
<clivejo> is there only 5 KCC members?
<clivejo> valorie: ping
<valorie> I think there are six of us -- check on launchpad
<valorie> but we only need three for a meeting I believe
<valorie> the rest can vote by mail
<clivejo> got 5 - http://doodle.com/poll/e3mxbfpdexdcbbck
<valorie> so pick a time and day, announce it, and I can put it on the wiki page on community.kde.org/Kubuntu
<valorie> those are locked down except for superadmins, which I am since I was deleting spam after the attack
<clivejo> seems to be only one timeslot okay for all five
<clivejo> Tues 16 at 21:00 UTC
<valorie> sounds good
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-13
<yofel> Myriam didn't add any times
<yofel> Mamarok: http://doodle.com/poll/e3mxbfpdexdcbbck
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-14
<clivejo> yofel: would you have time to go through a ktp-* package with me sometime?
<clivejo> So many Conflicts https://paste.kde.org/pqiflxvb1
<clivejo> why are those files even there :/
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-17
<aaron> did anyone see the email from Riddell?
<clivejo> ahoneybun: which email?
<ovidiu-florin> clivejo: council email
<ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: yes I did
<clivejo> oh, forgot I was in this channel
<ovidiu-florin> I'm thinking Skcarlett
<ovidiu-florin> is the best option
<clivejo> shouldnt really be in here
<ovidiu-florin> but, I'd say let's just put a smaller ammount in her patreon so that we can extend it for a longer period
<ovidiu-florin> smaller than a full montly sallary I mean
<ovidiu-florin> any opinions on this?
<ovidiu-florin> it's just an idea
 * valorie just sent two emails, one including Jon with thanks, one to just us with ideas
<valorie> remember, this is logged
* valorie changed the topic of #kubuntu-council to: Kubuntu Council - The Friendly Council: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council | Planning notes: https://notes.kde.org/p/pRErbxMqWY | Public is welcome. This channel is logged.
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-18
<ahoneybun> what's the problem with it logged?
<valorie> there is no problem; we wanted it logged
<valorie> however, people should know that
<clivejo> why does quassel always auto join this channel?
#kubuntu-council 2016-02-21
<clivejo> valorie: that compromise was due to a Wordpress site, is kubuntu.org fully patched and secured with good decent passwords?
<clivejo> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994
<clivejo> hacked the WP site and redirected the download link to a modified Linux Mint ISO, with a backdoor in it
<yofel> kubuntu.org is WP 4.42
<yofel> *4.4.2
<clivejo> good strong passwords?
<clivejo> how are you Phil?
<clivejo> kkinetix seems to have an interest in packaging
<yofel> no passwords at all, it's bound to Ubuntu SSO
<yofel> so lets hope that everyone has a good launchpad password
<clivejo> hope so
<yofel> I'm... okay I guess. Spent half of yesterday repariing my dad's smartphone (a bad usb cable had fried the usb socket) and was lazy most of today and spent it gaming with a friend
<clivejo> you guess?!?  that doesnt sound good!
<yofel> now you're worrying too much. I slept horribly last night so I'm feeling down the whole day. At least I don't have a cold like last week so that's a win
<clivejo> what games do you play?
<yofel> lately mostly: Agrarian Skies modpack for minecraft, 7 days to die, CS:GO, Civilization V
<clivejo> what on?
<clivejo> you dont have windows do you?!?
<clivejo> Phil, is there any way to merge a local folder into a git archive
<clivejo> I have some packaging for libkolab and want to merge it into the kubuntu_unstable branch on Debian
<yofel> all of that runs on Linux. Although CS I actually play on my windows desktop (yes, I do have one just for gaming) - you need pixel perfect precision for that game, and linux cannot handle that
<yofel> wait, we're in the wrong channel..
<clivejo> Im shocked
<clivejo> appaulled even!
<yofel> it's a good OS really, a shame that MS is making a mess out of it
<clivejo> I cant stand it
<clivejo> have to fix my ma's windows 10 laptop and it drives me crazy
 * ahoneybun has a desktop with Win 10 for gaming
<yofel> Win10 is actually nice - if you installs shut-up-10 and stuff
<clivejo> just so slow to do anything
<ahoneybun> its ok
<clivejo> looks like we are getting an in/out vote on the 23rd June
 * yofel is honestly curious how that'll turn out
<ahoneybun> vote?
<clivejo> on if the UK should stay in the EU
<clivejo> I live in Northern Ireland, which is technically part of the UK
<clivejo> so we will be going to the polls to vote on it
<clivejo> yofel: do they even mention it on mainland Europe?
<clivejo> I get the impression that most other countries have their own problems and dont really care about it!
<yofel> sure, it's a rather big topic here. Although it's mostly because the continent is slighly annoyed at the UK because we have other problems that we should be spending time on
<clivejo> I dont think that problem can be solved, no matter how much time they spend on it!
<clivejo> looks like you guys are having problems with migrant/refugee influx
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-01
<yofel> 'couple corrections
<yofel> The KCI master server is hosted on the bytemark server today which was arranged by Rick
<yofel> Linode is used for some dev builds, and hosts one of the KCI slaves - and really does most of the jobs for the CI
<yofel> I have pondered setting up our own builds, but as I'm not too happy with any existent replacement that currently exists
<yofel> - Neon does it's own builds, but has no dedicated build scheduler and just uses jenkins. Meaning nobody can do any manual uploads (which is both good and bad). Aptly is something I would use for repository management as well though
<yofel> - I don't know of any debian-esque build schedulers that have any kind of API that jenkins could talk to. At least I know that wanna-build and debile don't have any (i.e. we need to write that ourselves, which would be a doable amount of work)
<yofel> - OBS as hosted by OpenSuse allowes builds for Ubuntu, but not the development release when I checked last, so is kind of useless for our use case.
<yofel> you *can* host it yourself though, so someone might want to take a look at that
<yofel> and IIRC ximion was working on some kind of build system himself, though I haven't heard any news regarding that, so maybe he abandoned it
<yofel> as Rik said, there *are* solutions to our problems, but I'm not conviced that the amount of effort we have to put in is worth it in the end
<yofel> and any more infrastructure we create for ourselves increases the maintenance costs
<acheronuk> yeah, thanks for all that yofel. I agree. if LP gets back to normal, while not perfect, that is a no-brainer to use
<valorie> acheronuk: will the adjustments that wgrant offered help enough, do you think?
<valorie> thanks for the clarification, yofel
<ahoneybun> thanks yofel , also good to see you around again!
<valorie> yofel: I think we all agonized about some of these choices before, when it looked like we might get not be able to be Kubuntu any more
<valorie> we thought about new names, etc.
<valorie> I would not like to see us independent, annoying as Ubuntu/Canonical can be, because we simply are not big enough to do what needs doing by ourselves
<tsimonq2> We ARE Ubuntu too.
<valorie> we are
<tsimonq2> So we're calling ourselves annoying? :D
<valorie> well, I know I can be
<valorie> lol
<wxl> in your case it makes sense @tsimonq2
<tsimonq2> Same here, lol
<valorie> never YOU tsimonq2
<valorie> lol
<tsimonq2> wxl: XD
<valorie> neon sort of found a crack they could settle into and that's fine with me
<valorie> I think continuing to work with them helps everybody
<tsimonq2> "a crack they could settle into"
<tsimonq2> lol no :)
<valorie> between Ubuntu and KDE i mean
<tsimonq2> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh
<tsimonq2> idk
<valorie> I would rather see us all still together, but neon is providing a service to plasma developers in particular
<valorie> and that ends up helping everybody
<valorie> all of desktop and mobile linux at least
<valorie> sec
<valorie> maybe not a crack -- a niche
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-02
<yofel> ravine? >.>
<clivejo> could someone with admin priv please do https://kci.pangea.pub//user/clivejo/delete
<clivejo> can't delete self for some reason :/
<IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> should be fixed clivejo.
<clivejo> @ahoneybun thanks :)
<IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> your welcome. ;)
<clivejo> @ahoneybun don't happen to know where I saved my private keys?!
<IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> on the server?
<clivejo> nah
<clivejo> trying to revoke my Kubuntu.org certs, but can't find the key to one of them
<clivejo> amazing how quick I forget stuff when not using it
 * clivejo feels like Dory
<ahoneybun> yea I'm not sure
<valorie> yofel: ha
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-03
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Hope I'm not coming acrross too grumpy on that font size thing, but I REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLY hate that change!
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> If I said what I really think of it, I think that would break all the CoC. ð³
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/958434063127326727
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> May have to download that and have a look!
<valorie> acheronuk: not kicking it up one?
<valorie> I'd better read before asking
<valorie> seriously damp outside, gosh
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-05
<IrcsomeBot1> <tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/tsimonq2/status/960316762498719744
<acheronuk> plasma 5.12 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing for testing on artful
<acheronuk> there may be updates if any more tars are re-spun
<acheronuk> https://i.imgur.com/Pgh1spq.png
<mparillo> 257 Updates, and I did not crash Discover (which seems a lot more stable than the one with 16.04.3). I was able to re-boot my VM using the kicker > leave > reboot (sometimes for big plasma upgrades, I need to systemctl reboot).
<mparillo> After a re-boot, krunner launched kinfocenter (Plasma 5.12 , FW 5.42, and Qt 5.9.1). The kicker application launcher launched Discover, Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, System Monitor, and System Settings, and all appears normal at first glance.
<acheronuk> mparillo: thanks :)
<valorie> ooo, nice
<valorie> I will have to try as well
<valorie> big relief off my mind; figured out health insurance for the next year (switching to medicare etc.)
<acheronuk> urgh. so glad I don't have to worry about that
<valorie> well, my insurance rep agrees there
<valorie> absolutely nuts the way we do it
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-06
<valorie> heh, added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing after running the beta for a few days:
<valorie> Calculating upgrade... Done
<valorie> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
<valorie> I'll try it again in case they do a re-spin
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-arrives-in-backport-ppa-for-kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark/
<mparillo> G+'d
<valorie> weeeeeeeeee, upgrading right now
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-07
<ahoneybun_> test
<tsimonq2> 1 2
<ahoneybun_> thanks.
<ahoneybun_> getting rid of IRC Cloud and just using ZNC again.
<ahoneybun_> Test.
<ahoneybun_> Ah nice.
<valorie> ooo, http://www.kde.org/releaseschedule.ics
<valorie> I never knew about that
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-08
<valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/02/heading-out-of-winter-and-into-spring.html
<valorie> off to pflag in a min
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> Hello friends
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> It's been a sad period, and I have been kept very busy with Family Matters
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> Many apologies for not being able to run the Feb Podcast.
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> I'll be getting back into the swing of things next week, and pushing things forward again
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @Sick_Rimmit fully understand. do things at your own pace
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> I appreciate you guys understanding, I feel bad for being so flakky, but just happens sometime
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> ð
<IrcsomeBot1> <Sick_Rimmit> life just happens
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> oh god. it does. don't feel even slightly bad!
<valorie> oh Rick {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{[hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
<valorie> how are you?
<valorie> oh, hours ago
<IrcsomeBot1> <tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/asknoahshow/status/961313613481783296
<valorie> huh
<valorie> voted anyway
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-09
<yofel> great, the vote stands at 105 <-> 105 votes ^^
<IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> LOL https://twitter.com/athoneycutt/status/961747735400497152
<yofel> ... which sounds like a reasonable use case ^^
<IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk lol
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-11
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> (Video, 16s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/g8zjmMv0/file_4513
<valorie> ha
<ahoneybun_> Got a Pixel C which is neat.
<tsimonq2> valorie: Please reinstall Falkon from the PPA.
<acheronuk> frameworks 5.43 is now in staging ppa. no release announcement so a small chance may be still tarball changes. However, if they are, I will now name them 5.43.0a, and you will get a new upload
<mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks ? In AA or in BB?
<mparillo> It looks like both https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks?field.series_filter=bionic and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks?field.series_filter=artful
<mparillo> No dead kittens on BB. After re-booting my VM, krunner invoked kinfocenter, reporting FW 5.43. Kicker Application Launcher started Discover, Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, Ksysguard, and System Settings normally.
<acheronuk> mparillo: :)
<mparillo> 17.10 was a bit more of a struggle (I think Discover wanted to perform some security upgrades in the background), but I eventually upgraded a clean 17.10 VM. No dead kittens on AA either. After re-booting my VM, krunner invoked kinfocenter, reporting FW 5.43. Kicker Application Launcher started Discover, Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, Ksysguard, and System Settings normally.
<valorie> tsimonq2: why reinstall?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, The version in the PPA is now lower than what you have installed.
<valorie> why?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I messed up the recipe in Launchpad
<valorie> tsimonq2: done
<tsimonq2> valorie: thanks
<valorie> thank YOU
<tsimonq2> :)
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-12
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://blog.neon.kde.org/index.php/2018/02/12/hiding-neon-lts-edition/
<valorie> good plan imo
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> just make Kubuntu 18.04 LTS the best ever.
<valorie> testers welcome!
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-13
<acheronuk> plasma testers. hopefully 5.12.1 should be ready before I go ZZzz... tonight
<valorie> ooooooo
<valorie> I'm there for ya!
<acheronuk> copying to staging ppa now. will take a while to publish. plus may need one or 2 more uploads if there are QA fixes
<acheronuk> but 95% done at least
<valorie> \o/
<valorie> 6 weeks ago I was feeling rather bad about the state of the LTS
<valorie> but now feeling rather hopeful
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 720x1112) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/sbYEGccS/file_4575.jpg
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Fwd from jriddell: quick! vote in the ask noah show so Mint don't beat us! https://strawpoll.com/gdd2berp
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> LOL
<valorie> Error: You already voted on this poll.
<valorie> lol
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> lol
<valorie> neon was ahead when I voted....
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yeah. Mint must have mobilised some troops!
<valorie> straw polls are silly
<valorie> also: fun
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Right
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> asknoahshow.com in ~ 1.5 hours!
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (note: I'm employed by Altispeed which runs the Ask Noah Show, I'm biased!)
<acheronuk> valorie mparillo etc. plasma 5.12.1 now in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma for Artful and Bionic
<acheronuk> I will be copying to backports-landing shortly, where FW 5.43 is already sitting
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> wfm
<mparillo> I know I have a VM with backports-landing.
<valorie> I can test it when it gets to backports landing so I get everything all together
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-14
<mparillo> It looks as if it landed in backports-landing for 17.10
<mparillo> 301 updates according to Discover.
<mparillo> Not that I doubted acheronuk, but no dead kittens. I updated with Discover and re-booted my VM. Krunner invoked kinfocenter, which reports Plasma 5.12.1, FW 5.43, and Qt 5.9.1. The kicker application launcher successfully launched Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, ksysguard, and System Settings, and all seemed just fine.
<valorie> upgrading now
<valorie> after a restart, 5.12.1 is great! I have a cute new lil icon for dropbox
<valorie> very nifty
<tsimonq2> :D
<acheronuk> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7xks5g/kubuntu_w_backports_has_gotten_really_good_even/
<acheronuk> should do blog and social media to say 5.12.1 is in backports
<acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-1-bugfix-update-lands-in-backports-ppa-for-artful-17-10/
<acheronuk> IRCsomebot is currently poorly and down, BTW
<valorie> ooo, was gonna tell Nate the diff between release manager and product manager
<valorie> lol
<valorie> thanks for the article, Rik
<acheronuk> ummm. at the moment dunno who is what.
<acheronuk> probably whoever gets there first :P
<acheronuk> since we are not over blessed with people
<valorie> well, sure -- I hope he will focus on product QA and I will certainly help with that
<valorie> while I will focus on getting testing for our ISOs
<acheronuk> we will work out a good workflow with him. his enthusiasms is great
<acheronuk> and his ideas
<valorie> agreed
<valorie> and his latest is getting people enthused about getting the kde quality team going again
<valorie> which would help us all a LOT
<acheronuk> that will be good for all as well
<acheronuk> hopefully with plenty of distro feedback
<valorie> exactly
<valorie> I've been trying to steer some conversation to the distributions list
<valorie> which IMO should really be all the distros working with KDE to make things better for all of us
<acheronuk> I love the plasma and KDE devs, but a little 'view from a distance' also helps
<valorie> amen
<valorie> which is why I like to see more KDE devels involved in distros and vice-versa
<valorie> we all gotta work together to make things great for our users
<valorie> it ain't all about flatpak/snap/appimage
<acheronuk> indeed!
<acheronuk> valorie: ah, I see what you mean with nate on reddit. I'm being slow
<valorie> anyway, not enough time right now to hop onto telegram
<valorie> trying to post as Kubuntu on twitter about our latest
<valorie> :-)
<acheronuk> :)
<valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/963881724462604288
<valorie> I couldn't figure out how to logout, gosh
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-15
<acheronuk> test
<mparillo> G+'d
<mparillo> And updated the AA backports column here (https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/status/) Not sure anybody uses that page, though.
<valorie> thank you mparillo!
<valorie> what's your g+ post so I can +1 it?
<acheronuk> mparillo: sadly I don't. tend to know what is where, and find the table editing on that wiki a pain
<acheronuk> but it is good to have :)
<mparillo> valorie: I could have sworn I could click somewhere on the G+ post and get the URL, but I cannot find it. Also, sometimes G+ includes some graphic automagically; this time it did not.
<acheronuk> night night
<mparillo> Maybe it is the input box? Can you follow: https://plus.google.com/u/1/107577785796696065138/posts/XNV1djm4dug
<valorie> yup, thanks!
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7xks5g/kubuntu_w_backports_has_gotten_really_good_even/
<yofel> nice to hear, great job everyone
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> \o/
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Sweet, nice work folks!
<valorie> nice discussion there
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, Talking about #k-d? :P
<valorie> the reddit thread - just finished
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Ah OK :)
<valorie> catching up on devel now, but I need to leave for an eye exam in a few mis
<valorie> mins
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Ok
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7xks5g/kubuntu_w_backports_has_gotten_really_good_even/dub1r9i/
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> that comment ^^^
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> possible new tester
<tsimonq2> valorie: My BoF was accepted \o/
<valorie[m]> Yay! Now you have to publicize it
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Right :D
<valorie> gosh, hard to read with my eyes dilated
<valorie> even with the screen darkened
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-16
<yofel> Do we have public links to our telegram groups somewhere? I really can't find any
<yofel> In the process I noticed that our development contribution page has zero contact information ^^"
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/community
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> support one is on there
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I've seen some links on podcast stuff as well, but maye be out of date now.
<yofel> thanks, that's something at least
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> also on: https://community.kde.org/Telegram
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> shoudl probably make this a lot more prominent though
<acheronuk> cafe TG is invite only?
<ahoneybun> please add a phab task to update or add me to it. I'll update it sometime today.
<ahoneybun> yofel, acheronuk
<valorie> not sure who set up the TG group for "cafe"
<valorie> but it shouldn't be invite-only imo
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> well I can't even add or invite people
<valorie> I imagine now me either
<valorie> let me check
<valorie> I can add people
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> you have a little star :P
<valorie> but that's it
<valorie> I can't change the chan
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> mod not admin then
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Mr Honeycutt is admin
<valorie> yes, he has a BLUE star
<valorie> ahoneybun: can you make that chan more open?
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'll look.
<valorie> I think you get more options on the phone than the desktop app
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I don't see anything private the link to join is this: https://t.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1kDx_bXTJGwqw
<valorie> thanks -- I can only select my own contacts to add, no way to invite people
<valorie> on the phone
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I don't see that invite link anywhere
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> though I should be able to add people manually now I think
<ahoneybun> yea I added you as an admin acheronuk
<valorie> cool
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-17
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Fwd from nggraham: Howdy folks! Do you think I could be added to https://kubuntu.org/the-kubuntu-team/?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Opinions?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> +1
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun @Valoriez @ovidiuflorin @Sick_Rimmit yofel Mamarok ?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> he's not a member yet, but has taken on a named role, so I think +1
<Mamarok> hm, not a member but why should he be on the team's list?
<Mamarok> wouldn't it make sense to become a member first, then be on the team's list?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> he has taken on this: https://phabricator.kde.org/T7523
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> and has been doing a lot to help us between the team and KDE dev
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> but this is why I'm asking opinions :)
<Mamarok> I mean, it's not hard to become a member after all, why jumping steps?
<santa_> I don't officialy exist as well XD
<santa_> I think that whole page could be updated in 2 sections
<santa_> "current members" and "former members"
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> well, unless execptions are made it will be some time befroe he can apply to be a member
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> santa_ we should remedy that
<santa_> he could be added to the page anyway, if the council is ok with that and if he's doing work...
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Members are significant and sustained contributions to Kubuntu, since it's indirectly Kubuntu Membership
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> So I +1 what santa_ just said.
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> s/indirectly Kubuntu Membership/indirectly Ubuntu Membership/
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> But they go though a meeting first.
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-18
<valorie> I think santa is a kubuntu member, or is my memory amiss?
<tsimonq2> I think he is?
<valorie> imo it is a month or two early for nate to apply
<valorie> he certainly is making a significant difference
<valorie> not quite sustained yet, imo
<valorie> riddell made me wait too
<valorie> :-)
<tsimonq2> hahahah really?
<tsimonq2> :D
<tsimonq2> Was he right tho?
<valorie> probably
<valorie> made me want it more
<tsimonq2> :D
<Mamarok> so: Kubuntu member first, then listed on the page
 * Mamarok is not on the page either, but doesn't mind
<Mamarok> didn't find time to do much in recent months
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I would like to know if valorie meant he should wait to apply to be a member (which he should), of if she agreed that was a pe-requisite for being added to the team page. I was not clear if she meant both, or just membership.
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> also @ahoneybun diodn't not comment on that question directly either.
<Mamarok> well, I think Nate doesn't get the difference between Free Software meritocracy and company website listings
<Mamarok> so far I don't know of any Free Software project that officially lists team members who are not actually members with a significant contribution
<Mamarok> be this current or in the past
<Mamarok> and since we are not a company :-)
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Ok. Direct question to all. Yes or no answer. â¦ Nate is not yet a Kubuntu  member,  and can't be for a few months yet. However, given the role he has taken on and work he is doing, can/should he be added to the team page in the meantime?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Yes/no?
<yofel> Yes. While not being a member certainly restricts him a bit in what he can actually do, his position is public facing enough that someone might be interested in finding out what he's doing on the team, which is what the page is for.
<yofel> And the page isn't accurate in listing "members" anyway
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> agree with that
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> currently 2:1 for yes, informally. ahoneybun, valorie not clear. Rick not commented (probably too busy/not available)
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Mm +1
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 3:1
<valorie[m]> +1
<valorie> just to add: thanks for stating that so clearly, acheronuk
<acheronuk> np
<IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hfB0T08S/file_4752.jpg
<valorie> snowing here for a few hours
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> very pretty!
<valorie> it is! and my husband is out in it somewhere building hiking trail, the crazy man
<valorie> at least he took my subara today, so he can drive home safely
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Oooh
<valorie> subaru
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Snow here too, just a bit later
<valorie> yeah, we don't get your type of hard-core snow
<valorie> it will all melt by tomorrow
<valorie> probably
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Lol
<valorie> supposed to get cold tonight though
<valorie> for us.....
<valorie> -2 C /22 F
<valorie> I imagine that the goofball will be home soon, because I don't see how anyone can work in this
<valorie> and not turn into a frosted popsicle
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Lol
<ahoneybun> I've asked the current mod of the kubuntu subreddit to be added as a mod. I'll let you now once I get a message back.
<valorie> thank you, ahoneybun
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> yep yep
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-19
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/donations/ I
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'd like to review the tasks at some point. I'll make a date and time on doodle as soon as I can. We should review what are costs are for servers, hosting, and aws stuff.
<valorie> oh nice!
<valorie> so nice to have your energy back working with us again, ahoneybun
<ahoneybun> well we'll see xD
<ahoneybun> thanks!
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-20
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7ys6or/kubuntu_or_neon_wheres_the_love/
<acheronuk> 5.12.2 in backports landing (kopying now). hopefully that will be released by Riddell soon
<acheronuk> ready to upload to bionic. same reason I am waiting
<acheronuk> I expect he has dozed off. JR is not as young as he was ;)
<tsimonq2> acheronuk: What chan are we watching in?
<acheronuk> tsimonq2: #plasma ?
<tsimonq2> acheronuk: If I were you I'd JFDI :P
<acheronuk> I'm tempted!
<tsimonq2> Upload it and go to bed, I'll watch after it
<tsimonq2> :P
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-21
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.12.2.php
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.12.1-5.12.2-changelog.php
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Niiice
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Draft backports announcemenet done. if all looks fine, I may push that out in the morning
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Are we waiting the usual time or pushing it out right away?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> what is the usual time?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I thought we usually waited like a week but that's subject to change because we're the one's enforcing that :P
<valorie> rebooting in a min
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I struggle to remember when we ever waited a week
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> If this was a major version release, maybe. Even then, depends how mucg pre-release testing got done.
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Anyway. Good night. ð´
<tsimonq2> s/one's/ones/
<tsimonq2> o/
<valorie> all good, acheronuk
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-23
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Haven't heard back from our subreddit mod yet.
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-24
<valorie> by the way, good news for amarok lovers like me -- seems there is some movement among the devels
<valorie> kf5 port seems closer now
<acheronuk> I could swear I have heard this good new before. like every 6 months or so?
<acheronuk> but lets be optimistic. lol
<valorie> there has been some work, but I saw some collaboration
<valorie> and that is how things get done
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-26
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/T8088
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Remove flash from kubuntu-restricted-addons?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I think we need to review this at least, as we are the only ones with it now.
<yofel> +1
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> have made a bug, in case we go with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-addons/+bug/1751752
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> +1
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun how about?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 670x537) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ZSBEdEKi/file_4960.jpg
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> go a bit retro?
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk, +1
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk, Neat!
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Work on a light and dark panel fine as well
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk decide ok removing the flash by the phab as that is a written record. This channel is not logged.
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Yeah. Just bringing it attention in here.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Thanks! @acheronuk
<valorie> acheronuk: gave my +1 on the BR
<acheronuk> valorie: which one!
<valorie> flash
<acheronuk> right. kool
<acheronuk> grrrr. tsimonq2's fault ^^^
<valorie> if franklin gave his OK, then I'm totally in
<valorie> :-)
<acheronuk> I'll try to get that sorted tomorrow
<valorie> thanks !
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Qool
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> :P
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-27
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, Can you give your +1 on the phab task please?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, This channel is logged...
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Ah. It;s working now! handy
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2, When did that happen!
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Months ago
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Didn't know.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk, Thought I did.
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-addons/26
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> ^^^ ð
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun and web shortcuts to go?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I can get the axe should we decide :P
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> He said phab not launchpad.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk, Why?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> someone said it was obsolete
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> [06:57] <IrcsomeBot> <Lazy B> Found that kubuntu-web-shortcuts package is pulled in by kubuntu-desktop. IMO this package is obsolete and needs to be removed â¦ [06:58] <valorie> @lazy b â¦ [06:58] <valorie> thanks! â¦ [06:58] <valorie> I believe you are right â¦ [07:08] <tsimonq2> If I get a +1 from acheronuk, and he removes it from the seed, I'll file the RM bug report. â¦ [07:09] <valorie> we talked about updating it,
<IrcsomeBot> if anyone did â¦ [07:09] <valorie> ahoneybun: do you remember?
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> if it's not, then fine by me
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> It still works.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> It plugs into krunner to search launchpad a few other places.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @ahoneybun, Last I checked.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> We removed a few things that did not work before.
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Fair enough. :)
<valorie> good to hear, ahoneybun
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> though I'm not against making it optional @Valoriez @acheronuk
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> since not every user will need it.
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, Ah, you did. Didn't recognise you in that hat!
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> XD
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Qt transition coming in
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> http://davidrosca.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/falkon-300-released.html
<valorie> \o/
<IrcsomeBot> ovidiuflorin was removed by: ovidiuflorin
#kubuntu-council 2018-02-28
<tsimonq2> Ovidiu left :(
<valorie> both chans
<valorie> :(
<valorie> I hope he's ok
<tsimonq2> :/
<tsimonq2> I do too
<valorie> tsimonq2: my funding for lfnw has been approved
<valorie> just sent claire my info
<valorie> took 'em long enough....
<tsimonq2> valorie: Nice!
<tsimonq2> I had to do some poking myself, I just today got details from Claire for SELFd
<tsimonq2> s/SELFd/SELF/
<tsimonq2> ahoneybun: ^
<valorie> they are in general as slow as molasses in January
<valorie> but whatever
<valorie> I've always gotten the funds in the end
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @tsimonq2, Got it.
<tsimonq2> I'm 2 for 3 with funds so far :)o
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Damn what else did you apply for?
<IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I applied to go to UbuCon Europe 2016 â¦ I should have known better, I wouldn't apply to go to an UbuCon in a foreign country across the pond today! â¦ It took them two months to get back to me
<valorie> eek, already dinner time
<valorie> day is shorter when I go outside to work!
<IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Lets at least discuss a minimal install option: https://phabricator.kde.org/T8116
<valorie> good idea
<valorie> bleah, so little testing done for xenial upgrade
 * valorie drinks more coffee to get over it
<acheronuk> wanting testing on xenial milestone isos the week of feature freeze wasn't the cleverest scheduling choice by ubuntu
<acheronuk> well. whoever. for me doing testing, anyway. :/
<mparillo> valorie: I did test the first Release Candidate of i386 (same three test cases that show here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/386/builds/167243/testcases). Problem is that they are at least on the 3rd RC.
<acheronuk> I'll try to do some in the morning
<mparillo> Here they are on the superseded build: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/386/builds/166994/testcases
<valorie> i'm rsyncing the latest
<valorie> and will test on my travel lappy
<valorie> but it is not a 386 machine
<valorie> I'm glad nate spoke up for ending the i386
<valorie> it is now or never for these i386 supporters
<valorie> how big does my thumbdrive need to be?
<valorie> I've forgotten
<mparillo> A 2GB will do it
<mparillo> Impossible to buy one that small now.
<mparillo> The ISOs are 1.6 GB,
<valorie> perfect
<valorie> it just froze after I connected to wireless
<valorie> hmmm
<valorie> yep, totally frozen
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-05
<IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> (Photo, 783x598) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QJlMcnm2/file_23152.jpg https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2020-February/004893.html
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-13
<valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.18.0 on Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) powered by Linux 5.3.0-7625-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3401-3500/3800 MHz, RAM: 8452/32061 MB, Storage: 330/1144 GB, 285 procs, 0.69h up
<valorie> :-)
<valorie> RikMills: <3
<IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> :D
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-19
<IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1230090193501401093
<IrcsomeBot> <Sick_Rimmit> Nice job
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-21
<valorie> woot, after restart have 5.8.1
<valorie> \o/
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-26
<valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.18.2 on Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) powered by Linux 5.3.0-7629-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 878-1542/3800 MHz, RAM: 4894/32067 MB, Storage: 315/1144 GB, 229 procs, 0.1h up
<valorie> woop woop
<valorie> thank you RikMills!
<IrcsomeBot> <Sick_Rimmit> Nice
<valorie> I upgraded last night but neglected to restart
<valorie> then I noticed something crashing, so.... seemed time to do that
#kubuntu-council 2020-02-29
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Did someone log into the twitter account?
<IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Yes
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Alright cool.
<IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I got a notification about it.
<IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> So did I, as soon as I logged in.

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