#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-02
 * pleia2 waves to hexmode 
<pleia2> just dropped you an email re: some php-pear stuff
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-03
<dholbach> good morning
<hexmode> dholbach: fyi: floated the idea of maintaining packages in Debian's pkg-php VCS and people seemed supportive
<dholbach> hexmode: awesome - thanks a lot for that
<hexmode> pleia2: sorry I missed your IRC msg
<dholbach> hexmode: as I said - I don't need any access to them as I'm sure that the debian php folks know much better what they're doing than I am - according to the ITPs getting them into debian would solve a couple of other problems too
<dholbach> hexmode: but they should all be in a state where a regular uupdate would do the trick in terms of maintenance
<hexmode> right
<hexmode> I'll start bringing them in this week
<dholbach> fantastic :)
<hexmode> pleia2 wanted me to put them under git ... I haven't tried that yet for any Debian packages, but I'm going to assume I don't need any special permissions
<dholbach> I have no idea about git or git on alioth I'm afraid
<dholbach> hexmode: maybe with some new energy we'll get back to working on getting all those great ngo tools into debian/ubuntu
<hexmode> well... lets do this one first :)
 * hexmode is a fan of small steps
<hexmode> especially with volunteer projects
<dholbach> definitely
<dholbach> that's why we set up that wiki table :)
<dholbach> one small module at a time
<pleia2> hexmode: I actually prefer svn and still put all my packages there (even new ones) it was Raphael who said he preferred new stuff in git
<pleia2> so I wouldn't worry much about just using svn, it's fine
<hexmode> pleia2: ah, confused you w/ Raphael
<hexmode> yeah
<AlanBell> hi all
<AlanBell> just found out about google grants http://www.google.co.uk/grants/#
<AlanBell> which has given to the mysociety bunch that do various political freedom of information type websites in the UK $430,390.00 worth of advertising over 4 years
<AlanBell> could be of interest to some NGOs using Ubuntu
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-04
<Claudinux> 'night
<dholbach> good morning
<txwikinger> Morning dholbach.. looking forward for your presentation on Friday!
<dholbach> txwikinger: not sure I can teach you so many new things :)
<txwikinger> dholbach: hehe.. well.. The arrogant man believe he cannot learn anything anymore, but the wise man can learn from anybody :D
<dholbach> let's see :)
<txwikinger> dholbach: Did you see our awesome release party cake?
<dholbach> txwikinger: nope
<txwikinger> dholbach: http://kwartzlab.ca/blog/darcy-casselman/2010-05-03/very-lucid-release-party
<dholbach> I guess it wasn't http://jonathancarter.co.za/files/images/DSCN2265.jpg :)
<dholbach> woah nice
<txwikinger> that one is nice too.. but I like our better
<hexmode> dholbach, pleia2: you guys could help with packaging by making sure that ITPs are filed :)
<hexmode> Oh, he left
<hexmode> :(
<pleia2> hexmode: is there a PPA for the NGO packages? I think we only overlap on two, and there are debian ITPs for both
<pleia2> (or a list of packages is fine too)
<hexmode> pleia2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/ApplicationPackaging
<hexmode> under "unbundling"
<pleia2> ok, yeah, HTML/QuickForm XML/RPC (there is also another fellow pitching in here) and DB/DataObject are all ones I'm working on, they're in the debian pkg-php-pear svn
<hexmode> sure you don't want help out more ? :) :) :)
<pleia2> and unfortunately "working on" means "I should really get those done before squeeze, but I have 100 other things I need to do today, maybe tomorrow..." :(
<hexmode> oh, I have a kabjillion things to do! and I'm only ever gonna complete a tenth of them :)
<pleia2> I'll work on getting mine completed, then I'll see about taking on more, php really isn't my forte so maintaining these is a bit difficult for me (frequently need help)
<pleia2> less with packaging, more with active maintaining (backporting patches to stable, etc)
<pleia2> ^^ that I'd need help with
<hexmode> well, feel free to ask .. I'm usually here
<pleia2> thanks :)
<pleia2> I actually have a pretty calm-before-UDS-storm week this week, so I'll probably find some time to make progress this week
<czajkowski> :D
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-05
<dholbach> good morning
<Claudinux> good morning dholbach
<dholbach> hey Claudinux
<txwikinger> Morning dholbach
<dholbach> hi txwikinger
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-06
<hexmode> czajkowski: ??
<dholbach> good morning
<hexmode> czajkowski: just sent you an email :)
 * hexmode wants to make sure he's communicating
<czajkowski> yes I got it
<hexmode> heh
<czajkowski> just in the middle of stuff
<czajkowski> hexmode: I think posting it to the list would be a good idea
<czajkowski> help get discssions and folks on board
<hexmode> yeah... ok.  I wasn't trying to rush you.  Sorry.  My emails seemed to be disasperating, is all.
<txwikinger> Morning dholbach
<dholbach> hi txwikinger
<txwikinger> dholbach: Everyody going to UDS with train?
<dholbach> a couple of people, yes
<txwikinger> Well.. I thought all the airports will be closed again
<dholbach> parts of the uk afaik
<txwikinger> We don't get any news about it anymore.. I guess it becomes boring after a while
<dholbach> http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=0&pz=1&cf=all&ned=de&hl=de&q=flugverkehr&oq=flugv
<dholbach> :-)
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-07
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-11
<czajkowski> ngo sesswion at uds taking place
<czajkowski> join #ubuntu-uds-kawi
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-17
<dholbach> good morning
<dholbach> czajkowski: which Mark was the Mark in the ngo team notes?
<czajkowski> Mark A. Hershberger
<dholbach> thanks
<czajkowski> no bother
<dholbach> czajkowski: did the guy who gave the talk later on give you the list of groups of websites and list of organisations?
<czajkowski> dholbach: Andrew, nope he's just sent me an email asking for the gobby doc as he couldn't find it
<czajkowski> dholbach: shall poke him about that
<dholbach> ok, so I'll assign the work item to you
<dholbach> ROCK :)
<czajkowski> grand :)
<txwikinger> Morning
<Pendulum> hiya
<txwikinger> hi Pendulum
<czajkowski> aloha
<txwikinger> hi laura
<highvoltage> good... afternoon! everybody!
<czajkowski> highvoltage: missed you!
<highvoltage> I should be there next time at least :)
<czajkowski> excellen
<czajkowski> highvoltage: so do you have your Canadian Visa yet?
<highvoltage> czajkowski: I begged them more than month ago to send me my passport so long so that I can at least go to the uds... until today I got absolutely no response back from the Canadian Embassy
<czajkowski> mate of mine is living over there and has her application returned 4 times, they are driving her somewhat more insane than she already was
<highvoltage> czajkowski: I mailed them by registerd post today telling them that I have missed the conference and that they don't need to send it back anymore until the visa application is approved... hopefully that won't take too much longer
<highvoltage> czajkowski: there was a South African recently who got assylum in Canada because he said that all the black people in South Africa wants to kill all the white people... and he actually got assylum
<highvoltage> since then a lot of crazies have been applying for all kinds of canadian visas... I think that's messing it up for people like me who just want to go over for 2-3 months
<txwikinger> highvoltage: Visa process is always a mess
 * txwikinger has gone through too many of those
<txwikinger> However the Canadian High Commission was very good when we got our immigration visas
<highvoltage> txwikinger: yeah I guess it's a bit of a gamble. sometimes you'll have a great experience and other times not, and it might just be luck of the draw what kind of service you get
<txwikinger> highvoltage: true
<txwikinger> highvoltage: Which area of Canada do you want to visit?
<highvoltage> txwikinger: Quebec
<txwikinger> Ah cool
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-18
<dholbach> good morning
<txwikinger> Good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-19
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-20
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-25
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-26
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-27
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-28
<dholbach> good morning
<Claudinux> hi dholbach
<dholbach> hi Claudinux
#ubuntu-ngo 2010-05-31
<dholbach> good morning
<dholbach> czajkowski: when is the next meeting?
<dholbach> not sure you saw my mail on the list :)
<dholbach> hexmode: do you think it would make sense to track that list of blueprints somehow or discuss it on the list?
<dholbach> hexmode: did you get a reply from the debian php module gang?
<txwikinger> Morning
<dholbach> hi txwikinger
<txwikinger> hi dholbach
<dholbach> highvoltage: what is your ngo-team work item about?
<dholbach> highvoltage: it's not quite clear
<czajkowski> dholbach: I updated the wiki
<dholbach> czajkowski: great
<highvoltage> dholbach: putting together the spec for Manifest, the tool that downloads/syncs stuff to ship off to a place that suffers from Internetlessness...
<highvoltage> dholbach: I meant to have it done a week ago but started on it last night: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Specifications/Manifest
<dholbach> highvoltage: ah ok - it wasn't super-clear from the blueprint
<highvoltage> dholbach: I made some mockups/screenshots and will put it up a bit later
<czajkowski> highvoltage: got your visa yet sorted?
<highvoltage> czajkowski: nope, I'm about to give up on that, sadly
<czajkowski> :(
 * dholbach just created the Ubuntu NGO Facebook group
<dholbach> highvoltage, czajkowski: made you admins of the group too
<dholbach> grantbow: you too
<Claudinux_> hi dholbach
<Claudinux_> dholbach, why don't you post the into channel topic? so it is easy to reach :)
<Claudinux_> *the link
<dholbach> erm
* dholbach changed the topic of #ubuntu-ngo to: What is Ubuntu-NGO, ROOT is here | http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=422 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO |Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ngo | http://ubuntungo.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/ubuntu-ngo-what-is-it-we-do-again | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-lucid-ngo | Facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=126648474029896&ref=ts
<dholbach> thanks claudinux
<dholbach> good idea
<czajkowski> :)
<czajkowski> dholbach: cheers
<Claudinux_> dholbach, thanks to you :)
<highvoltage> Claudinux_: most people never read the topic :)
<highvoltage> (but I agree it's good to have it there)
<Claudinux> highvoltage, i know....:)
<Claudinux> but someone do that ;)
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-02
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-16
<dholbach> good morning
<highvoltage> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-17
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-18
<dholbach> good morning
<xdatap1> dholbach, good morning!
<dholbach> hey xdatap1
<highvoltage> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-19
<dholbach> good morning
<Cheri703> huh, I wasn't sure if there was a room for ngo team...
<highvoltage> it's a secret.
<highvoltage> (not really :p)
<Cheri703> heh, how are you highvoltage? made it home safely?
<highvoltage> Cheri703: I did indeed! I had a bad toothache and got some morphene from the dentist so I'm especially good right now at this moment!
<Cheri703> hehe
<highvoltage> and about to get my first sponsored package into debian so that's kind of awesome
<Cheri703> woo narcotics! (doctor prescribed of course)
<Cheri703> very cool
<highvoltage> and you?
<Cheri703> trip was uneventful, just long! Getting back into things here. need to get busy drumming up clients
<Cheri703> (or have someone I met at UDS randomly offer me an awesome job ;D )
<highvoltage> do you have a linkedin page?
<Cheri703> hmm...no
<highvoltage> it's kind of useful to send people to if you want to show them a quick overview of your skills and let people people recommend you, etc. and much more social than just having a CV/resume page on your website
 * Cheri703 adds it to to-do list
<highvoltage> there's also lots of ubuntu people on linked in, so if someone is looking for an ubuntu person they are likely to stumle on your profile if you connect to other ubuntu people
<Cheri703> I also need to update my wiki page
<Cheri703> ok, awesome, good to know. I've never really looked at linkedin
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-20
<dholbach> good morning
<Cheri703> Hi dholbach
<dholbach> hey Cheri703
<dholbach> I got your mail, but didn't have time to reply yet
<Cheri703> no problem :)
<Cheri703> I take it you got home safely?
<dholbach> yep, life's good - how about you?
<Cheri703> going alright, getting all kinds of stuff done, but adding to my list every day :) Need clients, but it's getting there :)
<dholbach> nice :)
<Cheri703> what time is it where you are?
<dholbach> 08:14
<Cheri703> ah, ok
<Cheri703> hehe, I know I'm up late when the europeans start waking up ;)
<dholbach> :)
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-23
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-24
<dholbach> good morning
<highvoltage> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-26
<Cheri703> I know we have members on multiple teams, but do we have anyone who is a liaison to the accessibility team? I'd think that NGO and accessibility seem like a good pair...and/or someone who can make info easily available to loco teams? I think that reaching out to local non-profits and such would be awesome ways for loco teams to spread the word, also great events to have "go to x location and teach people to use ubuntu" or "go to x
<Cheri703> location and install ubuntu on however many computers for residents/patrons to use"
<Cheri703> Just some ideas I was thinking about
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-30
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2011-05-31
<dholbach> good morning
<xdatap1> dholbach, good evening
<dholbach> hey xdatap1
<xdatap1> dholbach, let me introduce to you l3on, he's a dear friend from the Italian LoCo. He wrote that post on the planet about a tool for making easier the merge process.
<dholbach> hey l3on - nice to meet you
<l3on> Hi all! hi dholbach, thank you xdatap1
<xdatap1> dholbach, we were chatting about this post, so I tought that you were the best person for asking some feedbacks
<l3on> Hi dholbach, I'm here to get some feedbacks about my idea ( "Hym" ), I would know if it could be useful into ubuntu development cycle and If yes how I can improve it before start do develop
<dholbach> can you give me a link to the blog post again, so I can refresh my memory?
<l3on> of course â http://en.leoiannacone.com/2011/05/hym-help-you-to-merge/
<xdatap1> http://en.leoiannacone.com/2011/05/hym-help-you-to-merge
<dholbach> ah yes
<dholbach> would it make use of grab-merge (in ubuntu-dev-tools) and visualise the changes? or use bazaar internally?
<dholbach> (I'm not sure which part of the merging workflow Hym would take care of)
<l3on> dholbach: grab-merges or bazaar - I don't know actually...
<dholbach> so which part of the workflow would Hym take care of?
<l3on> what do you mean with "workflow" ? :)
<l3on> I have thinked: With Hym I can:
<l3on> 1) Take a complete view of available merges (merges.u.c)
<l3on> 2) choose which one I want to merge
<l3on> 3) automatic "dput" of debian and old_ubuntu packages in the "hym_workspace"
<l3on> 4) use gui to get a complete view of changes involeved last ubuntu packages. Apply changes (if necessary) and constantly see the diff.
<l3on> 5) Build package
<l3on> 6) Report sync or Upload packages somewhere
<dholbach> can I also use hym to edit if there are merge conflicts?
<l3on> This is how I have imaged HYM.
<l3on> dholbach: I'm not a "great experience ubuntu developer", what mean "merge conflicts" ? :)
<dholbach> if changes that happened in debian and ubuntu happened in the same place, they might conflict
<dholbach> so you have to resolve them manually
<l3on> yes of course, hym could be improved with this feature.
<dholbach> if you resolve them manually you have to edit files - would hym also do that?
<l3on> But I have to touch what "merge conflict" is really, but yes... I don't see any difficult to introduce this aspect in HYM.
<l3on> dholbach: of course!! maybe are you missing the complete mockup? â http://people.ubuntu.com/~l3on/hym/myImage.png
<dholbach> ah ok, now I see it
<l3on> When I wrote "default/preferred EDITOR" I've intended there will be a "gedit panels" (gedit is just an example)
<dholbach> I like the idea of making it easier for new contributors to contribute and do something - I'm just a bit concerned as it looks like quite a lot of work
<l3on> in other words: you'll be able to edit all files you want.
<dholbach> two things I'm wondering about are 1) for other development tasks, will new contributors have to use different tools? (there's more than merging that needs to be done), 2) does Hym hide too much complexity so new contributors don't learn enough about the tools / build process
<l3on> yes you're right. When I think the roadmap I see a "long term" project (but, well engineered)
<dholbach> I think you should talk to a few more people, maybe on one of the development mailing lists (acolon@example.com might be good to get input from new contributors and also people who have been developing for a bit longer)
<l3on> for point 1): have you some example?
<l3on> 2) yes, unlucky It will hide some dev stuffs
<dholbach> regarding 1) taking the package and fixing stuff in the source code, updating the package to a new version, etc
<l3on> Well we can structure application to work between two general debs, instead of
<l3on> debian - ubuntu
<dholbach> sometimes you just take the current source in ubuntu and work on the source
<l3on> Yes, understood. I'll work on, but I think is simple (just remove the panel below, which represents the "old" ubuntu package). I'll think about that.
<dholbach> ok
<dholbach> I think it'd be a good idea to talk to a lot of people first and find out how they work
<l3on> thanks dholbach for info and ideas :). I'll contact motu mentors (and motu too?, boh!).
<dholbach> awesome
#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-02
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-03
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-04
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-06
<turingb> :-D
<turingb> anyone?
#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-14
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-15
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-21
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-22
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-23
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-24
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-25
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-29
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#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-30
<dholbach> good morning
<Ghost_Berry> hi
<Ghost_Berry> how do i download ubuntu 12 server using wget please??
#ubuntu-ngo 2012-05-31
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-03
<MooDoo> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-06
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-07
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<MooDoo> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-08
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<MooDoo> hello all
<MooDoo> hello pleia2 sorry mrs krumbach joseph ;)
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-13
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<MooDoo_> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-14
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-15
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-16
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-17
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-22
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-23
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-24
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-25
<MooDoo> morning all
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-27
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<MooDoo> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-28
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<MooDoo> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-29
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<MooDoo> hello allo
#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-30
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#ubuntu-ngo 2013-05-31
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-01
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-05
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-06
<MooDoo> morning
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-07
<MooDoo> hello all
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-08
<dholbach> good morning
<MooDoo> :)
#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-09
<MooDoo> hello all
<dholbach> good morning
<MooDoo> :)
#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-12
<Guest12029> how you feeling pleia2 ?   ps morning x
<MooDoo> darn nick changes
<dholbach> good morning
<MooDoo> morning
<pleia2> MooDoo: hanging in there!
#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-13
<MooDoo> pleia2: good xx
<dholbach> good morning
<MooDoo> morning :)
#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-14
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<MooDoo> morning
#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-15
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-16
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-19
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-22
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-27
<MooDoo> hello all
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-28
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#ubuntu-ngo 2014-05-29
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