#ubuntu-za 2011-06-01 <Squirm> hey Symmetri1 <superfly> I don't understand why people are so worried about cellphones, but not worried about computer monitors and the sun, both of which give out significantly more radiation than cellphones <N8Wulf> a good morning to all in Ubuntu land <Squirm> morning <Kilos> morning all <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <superfly> hi Kilos <Kilos> hi superfly <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, thanks buddy <Maaz> Kilos: no problemo <Symmetria> heh <Symmetria> wow, google can make some huge mistakes on occasion <Wolfeyes> Good day everyone. <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes <Wolfeyes> Where can I download the modem-manager archive package "for Kubuntu Natty", (from windows o/s, and save it to flash drive) and then install it when I reboot in ubuntu please? Because I cannot connect with Kubuntu right now. I tried finding it on the install disk but not the archive package. Also having difficulty finding it on the forums. Anyone...! <Wolfeyes> Heya Kilos <Wolfeyes> heya N8Wulf <confluency> Wolfeyes: you should be able to find it on one of the mirror servers in your browser. <confluency> Do you mean modemmanager? <Wolfeyes> Yes but I cannot conect to the server via kubuntu confluency . <confluency> Yes, I know. You can download the package in your browser and save it. <tumbleweed> however, you may find that it depends on other packages that you'l need too <confluency> I'm trying to find a link; you can start by googling modemmanager package natty. <confluency> What architecture? <Wolfeyes> Architechture? <tumbleweed> the quickest way is to find an internet connection that you can use, and use your package manager <tumbleweed> Wolfeyes: i386 or amd64 (i.e. 32 or 64 bit) <Wolfeyes> i386 <confluency> Wolfeyes: here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/natty/modemmanager <Wolfeyes> ty confluency let me see what I can get right. Thank you. <confluency> In the download section, follow the link to the architecture (1386). <confluency> *i386 <Wolfeyes> Ok. <confluency> Check to see if you have all those dependencies installed. <Wolfeyes> I will do that, be back as fast as possible. <superfly> modemmanager should be installed by default in Kubuntu <superfly> Package: modemmanager; New: yes; State: installed; Automatically installed: yes <superfly> Wolfeyes: ^^ <wolfeyes> What a mission... <wolfeyes> But I am connected. Now to get what I need. <wolfeyes> Ty confluency, that didn't work I needed to many extra files above what was asked and the system just wanted to connect to the net constantly. So I got hold of saki3g and managed to connect, but battled a bit as I forgot I had to activate the "Permissions" , "executable file" in order to get it working. But I am busy getting what I need right now, thank you. * inetpro wants to be brave and upgrade Hardy LTS server to Lucid <inetpro> not sure whether it's such a good idea <inetpro> anyway, if I vanish from here you should know that the quassel upgrade failed <wolfeyes> Lol good luck inetpro <inetpro> wolfeyes: thanks, I really need that <wolfeyes> So did I 20mins ago lol. <inetpro> wolfeyes: the only diff here is that it is also a production system <tumbleweed> wolfeyes: superfly had a good point, modemmanager should be installed by default, I'm suprised you didn't have it <wolfeyes> I know that feeling too, happened to me when I first learnt about Karmic. * inetpro is just worried about one thing <inetpro> the reboot process at the end of the upgrade process * inetpro will have to drive all the way to the remote server farm if it fails to boot <wolfeyes> Sorry tumbleweed I never saw what superfly said, I think I left to early. And I think it was the networkmanager not modem manager (also installed by default) but I was fooling around trying to make it work because it stopped after updates. I think I removed it,lol. But hey that's how beginers learn. Come a long way from when I started with Karmic. <tumbleweed> heh, good to hear :) <tumbleweed> yeah, one learns through mistakes <wolfeyes> Nodz. <wolfeyes> <--- but still very much a beginner. <wolfeyes> superfly: do you use quassel as a client to connect to mxit as well? or Pidgin? <wolfeyes> Maybe kopete.... * wolfeyes looks aorund some more. <superfly> wolfeyes: quassel is an IRC client <superfly> I don't connect to mxit <superfly> I don't know if Kopete has a plugin to connect to mxit <wolfeyes> Ok thank you. I am busy looking for it. <N8Wulf> eish! What a day! <N8Wulf> how was your day ppl? <wolfeyes> Heya N8Wulf, quiet but hectic. Battling to get on line. <inetpro> hmm... <inetpro> now for the reboot * inetpro goes to inspect /boot/grub/menu.lst * inetpro wbb <hibana> eish! <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> long time no see hibana * hibana missing inetpro already <hibana> Kilos: wb <Kilos> voda just disconnected for some reason <Kilos> wb youuuu <hibana> :-) * hibana digesting the thought of going to visit the server <Kilos> lol <Kilos> mind you dont get tummy cramps * inetpro is back <superfly> inetpro: did you manage to come right? * hibana \0/ <inetpro> superfly: yep, I'm back <inetpro> lsb_release -a ....Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS <superfly> w00t * hibana shall be back in case of an emergency <hibana> bye Kilos <Kilos> cheerio hibana my friend <Kilos> aw <inetpro> superfly: what's wrong? <superfly> inetpro: ? <inetpro> 01/06 18:15:52 <superfly> w00t <superfly> inetpro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w00t <inetpro> superfly: ahh, I thought it's something like "what?" * inetpro learns a new thing every day <nlsthzn> w00t :p <nlsthzn> I just had learnz a new wording <inetpro> time to go home and continue from there <Kilos> go safe ou man <inetpro> Kilos: thanks <Kilos> its cold out there <inetpro> Kilos: sure thing, especially on the mbike <Kilos> eina <inetpro> no worries, I'm covered * inetpro wbb <Kilos> lol. insurance wise? <inetpro> Kilos: no, jacket wise :-) <Kilos> lol <Kilos> been there done that <Kilos> even leather gloves dont help if you travel far enough in the cold <inetpro> Kilos: true, but I'm safe at home, thanks <inetpro> last night was worse <Kilos> thasts all that important hey. a hot bath fixes the cold <inetpro> because I didn't have an extra jersey <Kilos> they actually got plugin hot suits that the big bikers use <inetpro> yikes <inetpro> sounds interesting <inetpro> yesterday morning was nice and warm when I left <Kilos> maybe you werent awake yet <Kilos> it was cold <inetpro> well, not as cold as this morning <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz flips the salt-timer <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already <Kilos> Maaz, with milk <Maaz> Yay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, thanks buddy <Maaz> no problem, Kilos <Kilos> night everyone <Kilos> sleep warm * kbmonkey *coooold* <Squirm_> fp <confluency> sp #ubuntu-za 2011-06-02 <Kilos> morning superfly and others <superfly> morning Kilos <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz washes some mugs <Kilos> lo nlsthzn coffee time <nlsthzn> Kilos: Hey... that's ok... making myself tea here at work now... brought all the ingridients needed :p <Kilos> lol <Kilos> man its for the cyberbrain not the soft one <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, ty buddy <Maaz> Dont get familiar now Kilos <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: Both my minds need tea... then again both are soft :p <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> yay that free sms site is working kiff again <Kilos> they mustas been upgrading as well <Kilos> nlsthzn-work, ^^ <Kilos> nice and fast as well <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: Good to hear :) * Kilos gots a problem. will try explain <Kilos> lay down for a while this avy and when coming back to pc freecell opened blank <Kilos> not much wanted to work . even shutdown didnt work <Kilos> on rebooting i get initramfs prompt <Kilos> even doing a recovery gives the same initramfs prompt <Kilos> im on karmic now <Kilos> i typed help at the prompt but nothing there can help me <Kilos> Maaz, google ubuntu maverick boots to initramfs prompt only <Maaz> Kilos: "[ubuntu] 8.04 Boot Problems: initramfs prompt/ BusyBox - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=807345 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "VirtFeatureVerification - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.edubuntu.org/VirtFeatureVerification 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Bug #686832 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu): âmultipath-tools-boot ..." https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/686832 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "ubuntu-bugs: [Bug 778520] Re: install on degraded raid1 does not ..." http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2011 <somaunn> hello everyone <somaunn> hello <Kilos> hi somaunn <somaunn> i need help <somaunn> i have this message on ubuntu startup, error: sparse file not allowed <Kilos> explain what your problem is then be patient. someone will help when they get a chance <somaunn> what does it mean? how can i resolve it <Kilos> you on natty? <somaunn> yes <Kilos> lets see what maaz has to say while we wait for a clever guy <somaunn> i've reinstalled my natty with btrfs and after that i received that msg on startup <Kilos> Maaz, google ubuntu natty starts with error: sparse file not allowed <Maaz> Kilos: "Bug #736743 in grub2 (Ubuntu): âenvironment block not implemented ..." https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/736743 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Bug #464743 in grub2 (Ubuntu): âerror: sparse file not allowedâ" https://launchpad.net/bugs/464743 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "On Ubuntu: btrfs is now available on Natty" http://onubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/01/btrfs-is-now-available-on-natty.html 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Full BTRFS support in grub [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index <Kilos> check if there is help at one of those links somaunn <somaunn> okay will check it <somaunn> thanks for help <Kilos> you welcome. hope you get it fixed <somaunn> another question, <somaunn> how to recover the network icon next to sound <Kilos> try right click on the panel <Kilos> then add i think <Kilos> ya add to panel <Kilos> then look for it in your options <Kilos> somaunn, ^^ <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey <Kilos> how clever are you <somaunn> bye bye <kbmonkey> hiya Kilos <kbmonkey> Im making some veg soup so I guess Im clever enough. whats up? <Kilos> kbmonkey, my maverick boots to initramfs prompt only <Kilos> dunno where to go from there <Kilos> normal commands dont work there <Kilos> and the help is beyond me <kbmonkey> like a grub prompt? <Kilos> yeah but initramfs $ <Kilos> i booted from live cd and tried installing grub-pc again but no luck * kbmonkey warms up the search engine <Kilos> lol <kbmonkey> if you can get a line of error message we can search it might help <Kilos> i looked at lotsa google links on it but they all for IT guys\ <kbmonkey> does it look similar to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561735 <Kilos> when i am there i cant get online or anything. am using karmic thats first install on this drive <kbmonkey> so you have karmic and maverick on one drive, separate partitions? <Kilos> kartmic then maverick alongside <Kilos> that looks similar <kbmonkey> okay, karmic uses grub 1.9, maverick grub 2 <kbmonkey> during maverick install, do you remember where you installed the boot loader? <Kilos> whew <Kilos> in sda i think <Kilos> i dunno what happened it was working fine and after a break even my shutdowjnh option didnt work <kbmonkey> oh dear <Kilos> yeah. like a bad guy got in while i was away <Kilos> but i got firewall running <kbmonkey> did you use the boot repair graphical tool to reinstall grub? <Kilos> lol <Kilos> the recovery one <Kilos> ? <kbmonkey> yes the one found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB2 <kbmonkey> (that link is broken up ) <Kilos> i tried recovery onb booting and it also ends at that initramfs prompt <kbmonkey> no there is a recovery Live CD to reinstall grub <Kilos> ok i go see what they say <kbmonkey> not the recovery boot menu option, that is differnt <Kilos> oh from the live cde? <Kilos> cd? <kbmonkey> yes it is a new live cd to repair the system https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair <kbmonkey> it must be new, I never noticed that before :) <Kilos> ok i go look for that. not sure if i seen it before. do you go the install route? <kbmonkey> okay that second link is a modified Ubuntu live CD, so you may not want to DL an entire ISO for that <Kilos> oh wait\ <Kilos> a new live cd repair cd <Kilos> not the maverick live cd <kbmonkey> your live CD can get online right? <Kilos> yes if i go try ubuntu\ <kbmonkey> okay thats good. I think what we can do is boot a Ubuntu Maverick live CD <Kilos> ok i write this down and go try it. ty <kbmonkey> hang 5 <Kilos> ok <kbmonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair tells you how as well <kbmonkey> when in the live environment, follow the 2nd option to install boot-repair <kbmonkey> then follow the rest of the instructions in that same link :) <Kilos> thanks kbmonkey <kbmonkey> I hope that helps! <Kilos> lol so do i <kbmonkey> okay gtg for 30 mins I'll be back soon :) <Kilos> later all <superfly> kbmonkey: grub 1.9 == grub 2 <Symmetria> lol, so like, we always use airport codes in our router names * Symmetria is thinking that when he puts routers down in grahamstown <Symmetria> it may not be politically wise to use their airport code <Symmetria> "FAGT" <Kilos> kbmonkey: that is a cd download site <Kilos> i cant do that <Kilos> i go back to karmic if i dont get it working <Kilos> see yas later <kbmonkey> hi Kilos <kbmonkey> you do not need to download a CD ISO, you can use your existing ubuntu live CD via the 2nd option <Kilos> eish sorry <Kilos> missed that <Kilos> ok i go try again <Kilos> i wonder what happened. everything been working great for months <Kilos> later <kbmonkey> perhaps a grub update incompatibility <kbmonkey> not too sure, see if that works :) <Kilos> ok ty will do <Kilos> hehe kbmonkey <Kilos> now i dont get any options on boot anymore <Kilos> goes straight to karmic <Kilos> and modem battling <Kilos> hehe <Kilos> needed to reboot a few times and also move the modem to different usb port <Kilos> and when trying to mount the partition with maverick on i getting <Kilos> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, <Kilos> missing codepage or helper program, or other error <Kilos> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try <Kilos> dmesg | tail or so <kbmonkey> oh wow I hope your partition for maverick isn't corrupt. maybe thats why the boot stopped working :( <kbmonkey> when you run sudo update-grub, it should detect all Linuxes on your disk. The fact that it did not detect Maverick tells me that partition cannot be read <Kilos> it only seems to see the karmic images <Kilos> will check how much data i got left and install maverick again <Kilos> tomorrow maybe <Kilos> head thumping now <Kilos> i go lie down some. maybe come back later. if not sleep tight all <kbmonkey> awe alrightee then, sleep tight #ubuntu-za 2011-06-03 <koutika_archange> salut a tous <sakhi> mornings <superfly> hiya sakhi <Kilos> morning superfly and other peeps also as well <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz washes some mugs <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, ty <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos <superfly> morning Kilos <Kilos> heloooo nlsthzn-work <Kilos> and anyone else still awake <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <Kilos> Maaz, move it <Maaz> Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, ty buddy <Maaz> Dont get familiar now Kilos <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: Hey :p <n8wulf> Eish... me thinks me needs to get me some Weeds <n8wulf> O:-) <superfly> n8wulf: most people like to get rid of weeds - I don't want them in my garden <n8wulf> superfly: haven't you heard, "don't drink & Drive... rather smoke and Fly".... Mango Airline here I come <n8wulf> well... anyway, I had to settle for Captain & Cola <n8wulf> freakin stressful week is finally over <Kilos> lo kbmonkey <kbmonkey> hello :) <Kilos> i installed maverick alongside again and it fixed the old one too <Kilos> so now i happy again <Kilos> but freezing <kbmonkey> oh thats good news! <Kilos> yeah <kbmonkey> I was trying this window manager called Awesome, it tiles windows automagically <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: had a look @ awesome scared me :p <kbmonkey> ye its way different hay <superfly> *very* different <superfly> -_- freebsd is a bit of a pain if you don't know it #ubuntu-za 2011-06-04 <Kilos> good morning everyone <sakhi> moring Kilos <Kilos> hi sakhi <kbmonkey> morning Kilos and sakhi <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey <sakhi> hi kbmonkey <n8wulf> Hello there from Vanderbijlpark <kbmonkey> hello there from Durban :) <Kilos> hello there from Pretoria :-) <nuvolari> o/ <nuvolari> hello there from Ballito <Kilos> lol. lo nuvolari <nuvolari> why are we greeting like that? <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos <Kilos> because we can <nuvolari> ah <nuvolari> standing our ground? <Kilos> lol <nuvolari> there, only me now <Kilos> hehe <kbmonkey> double agent eliminated <kbmonkey> been playing with openbox and conky :) - http://postimage.org/image/1yja2flqc/ <nuvolari> bah :( need to go fetch my charger at the office now now <Kilos> lol <nuvolari> kbmonkey: super! <nuvolari> the only thing I could not get used to with openbox is the statusbar <Kilos> as jy nie n goeie kop het nie moet jy goeie voete he <nuvolari> Kilos: lol hehe ja nee oom <nuvolari> dis die eerste keer in 'n lang ruk wat ek my charger vergeet <nuvolari> gewoonlik vergeet ek hom by die uis <nuvolari> but this time for some reason it was the other way round <Kilos> lol <Kilos> kry nogeen dan is die prob verby <nuvolari> kbmonkey: nice background! that chick from Tron is scorching! <nuvolari> Kilos: ek het daaraan gedink tot ek die prys gesien het <Kilos> hulle het pirate goed nou vir about 250 ek dink <Kilos> kyk by pc repair plekke nie by agente nie <Kilos> of kyk by gumtree <nuvolari> maar die is die werk se laptop, so ek wil nie sulke goed inprop nie <Kilos> o ok <kbmonkey> ja Olivia is n oulike een ne nuvolari ;D * nuvolari drool <kbmonkey> only watched that film last week, I like * nuvolari loose consciousness * nuvolari maak google image search results toe voor die screen smelt <kbmonkey> ha ha ha! <nuvolari> kbmonkey: is jy afrikaans of 2-talig? <nuvolari> :? think that's the wrong way to ask lol, but you get the idea <kbmonkey> nuvolari, ja ek is bilingual! <Kilos> hehe <kbmonkey> afr/eng familie en skool ook. <kbmonkey> nuvolari, ek sal vroeer by G'way wees met my sussie en sal soek vir waar daar free wifi is. M&B blykbaar charge. <nuvolari> kbmonkey: hmm, ok, no problem. I wonder about Spur? I know the Mustang spur at Musgrave centre was free last time * superfly missed the greetings... <superfly> hello there from the Republic of Cape Town <Kilos> lol <Kilos> hiya uncle superfly <afrodeity> I think we over the last of the hurdles with the 11.04 classic upgrade <afrodeity> but still wondering why I'm getting people asking me how to install a vodaphone modem which is .exe <afrodeity> surely there's a synaptic or software centre solution by now? <nuvolari> whoot! had a successful 2 ubuntu hours :D <nuvolari> met kb<tab> <nuvolari> now where is he? <kodez> nuvolari: where was the ubuntu hour? <nuvolari> hmm, it was unofficial though. <nuvolari> kodez: in KZN <nuvolari> Gateway <kodez> nuvolari: what were the main topics? <nuvolari> we touched on Moodle, Unity, Gnome3 and how new users react to new environments <nuvolari> kodez: ^^ <kodez> i wish i can also have an ubuntu hour in pretoria, i hope i will manage to organise one after my vacation <nuvolari> kodez: make like we did: just name a place/time and arrive :P <kodez> nuvolari: i will do it like you (the motu) did * nuvolari is about to eat a chilli... crazy? <Kilos> lekker <Kilos> not on its own are you <Kilos> bek brand <nuvolari> lol, met 'n broodjie oom <Kilos> lol <nuvolari> :O <nuvolari> :O... <Kilos> ? <nuvolari> hot hot hot hot hot <nuvolari> milk <Kilos> lol <nuvolari> need milk <Kilos> finish eating <Kilos> then hot tea or coffee with stop the burn <nuvolari> is klaar oom <Kilos> a good chilli doesnt calm down for long with milk <nuvolari> ek voel so <Kilos> lol <Kilos> maar jy kry nie meer koud nie <nuvolari> my mond meen oom nou <Kilos> lol <Kilos> warm tee of koffie <nuvolari> sal vir my 'n laager rooibos maak <Kilos> as dit n goeie chilli was en jy het genoeg ge eet dan kry niks meer koud nie <Kilos> lol <nuvolari> ek het net een geÃ«et oom <nuvolari> daar is nog 27 oor <Kilos> ha ha ha <nuvolari> nie sleg nie, 28 cchillies vir R7 <Kilos> as jy die pitte eers uithaal is hulle nie so warm nie <nuvolari> ja maar dan is dit nou nie meer 'n chilli nie :P <Kilos> ya man <Kilos> maar baie mense brand net van kyk na hulle <Kilos> jy moet habaneros probeer <Kilos> of jalapeno <Kilos> jy kannie eers dink daarna nie <Kilos> en volgende dag vat jy a bakkie koue water saam as jy toilet toe gaan <nuvolari> lol!!! <nuvolari> Kilos: maar watter is die warmste? jalapeno of fresh chillies? <Kilos> jalapeno <Kilos> die fresh wat ons hier koop is wat die indiers gebruik meestal <nuvolari> :? is oom seker? Debonairs se jalapenos brand nie vir my so kwaai soos fresh chillies ine <Kilos> dan is dit nie regte jalapenos nie <Kilos> gaan na fruit and veg city en kyk na al die verskillende chillis <Kilos> hulle het gewoonlik papiere by wat al die name en hittes gee * nuvolari taps foot. I need to take them on about their chillies <nuvolari> ek sal bietjie gaan kyk <Kilos> hqang net af watse fresh chillis jy gekoop het <nuvolari> weet oom wat ek met die ander 27 chillies kan maak? :P <Kilos> of google chillis <nuvolari> soos 'n resep vir inlÃª <Kilos> Maaz, google hottest chillis <Maaz> Kilos: "Bhut Jolokia chili pepper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhut_Jolokia_chili_pepper 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Chili pepper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_pepper 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "The chilli so hot you need gloves - Times Online" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article700700.ece 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Famous Chili Recipes" http://www.famouschilirecipes.com/ 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "YouTube - Worlds Hottest Chili" http://www.you <Kilos> daar is recepte ook <nuvolari> ek sien :P check dit nou uit <Kilos> ek maal hulle fyn met die selfde hoeveelheid knoffel en sit in asym met suiker by <nuvolari> ek sal swaarkry as ek alles moet eet :P <Kilos> lol <Kilos> dit maak n soort chilli sous wat jy dan op brood met ander goed by sit <Kilos> of bietjie in sop of stew gooi <Kilos> lo nlsthzn-work <nuvolari> Kilos: hmm, dit klink heerlik! <Kilos> ek eet dit met amper als <Kilos> net nie in my tee nie <Kilos> jy kan die mengsel ook in n mikro koop vir so n half uur dan proe dit nog lekkerder <nuvolari> http://www.famouschilirecipes.com/10reasonstoeatchili.html <Kilos> dis gesond <Kilos> ek het nie genoeg data om te gaan kyk nie <nuvolari> vitamiene C en A <nuvolari> dis okei oom <Kilos> eintlik moet ek gaan slaap <Kilos> sien julle more weer <Kilos> soet wees <nuvolari> Lekker slaap oom Kilos <Kilos> dankie seun jy ook <nlsthzn-work> Hello all :) <kodez> hello nlsthzn-work <nlsthzn-work> kodez: Alo :) <kodez> nlsthzn-work: good evening. how are you? <nlsthzn-work> kodez: I can't complain, and how are things over there? <kodez> i'm well and collected. i am enjoying my python basics studies <nlsthzn-work> kodez: Cool... I would like to get into python, but I just got my LPI study guide so I will first get into that and see if it wants to stick in my head :p <kodez> nlsthzn-work: where have you managed to get your study guides? <nlsthzn-work> kodez: Amazon dot com :) - Got myself the Sybex one... will see if it is any good <kodez> kwl, i will join you before the end of the week we are starting tomorrow. i have developed a plan to cover most of the staff that i need in my career, and lpi is among my goals <nlsthzn-work> kodez: awesome... I am just doing it to understand linux a bit better ... I doubt I will ever use it career wise as I have already invested 10 years in a totally unrelated field <kodez> i am hoping to be in a linux world 100% but also take into consideration that bill gates machines are all over the show <nlsthzn-work> I think for peeps going into IT it helps if your proficient in as many different things (or at least have a running knowledge because so often everything is connected ) <kodez> yes i agree <nuvolari> ok, so I hear klaas vakie calling really loud :-/ <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey! <nuvolari> how does your calendar look on the 18th of July? <nuvolari> ok, I'm out. Night everyone <kbmonkey> hai <kbmonkey> im free most of that day <nlsthzn-work> kbmonkey: Hey... whats news? <kbmonkey> hi nlsthzn-work. trying to install kubuntu on a lappie, it keeps crashing :/ <nlsthzn-work> kbmonkey: that sucks... <kbmonkey> yeah, ooold hardware. think its a write-off <kbmonkey> you working late nlsthzn-work? <kbmonkey> kubuntu 11.04 looks *beautiful* though, wow. <nlsthzn-work> kbmonkey: yup, latest Kubuntu is sweet (even though it is still a second child compared to Ubuntu)... Nightshift :/ <kbmonkey> think I'll install kubuntu as a secondary OS on my netbook :) <kbmonkey> well it installed, but it hangs on boot. I guess that's a writeoff ^^ #ubuntu-za 2011-06-05 <Kilos> whew, just made it <Kilos> morning superfly and everyone else <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <superfly> hi Kilos * nuvolari yawns <nuvolari> morning <kbmonkey> morning! <Kilos> The Irish have solved their own fuel problems. They imported 50 million tonnes of sand from the Arabs and they're going to drill for their own oil. <kbmonkey> :p <superfly> hahaha <nuvolari> lol oom Kilos * nuvolari tries to not break his chair laughing <nuvolari> that's a classic <nuvolari> ok, I'm off to bed <nuvolari> 'night <Kilos> night nuvolari <Kilos> sleep tight <nuvolari> thanks oom! you to <nuvolari> *too <Kilos> danke <kbmonkey> sleep warm okes :) <Kilos> jy ook kbmonkey <Kilos> night all sleep warm <Kilos> me freezing my nuts off <Kilos> see mya all morrow <kbmonkey> :) #ubuntu-za 2011-06-06 <sakhi> morning <superfly> heya sakhi <sakhi> superfly: how is it going? <sakhi> Maaz: forecast Cape Town <Maaz> sakhi: Sunday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 16Â° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 9Â° C., Monday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 14Â° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 10Â° C., Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17Â° C., Tuesday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 15Â° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17Â° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 11Â° C., Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 18Â° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Lo <kbmonkey> morning ubuntu-za <superfly> hey sakhi, cold, but OK <kbmonkey> we need a geeky joke to start this week <kbmonkey> "File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)" :D <Owkkuri> The great thing about TCP jokes is that you always get them. <cocooncrash> the punchline sometimes arrives first. The problem with UDP jokes is that * kbmonkey keels over! <Kilos> morning superfly and friends of ubuntu <Kilos> lo kbmonkey <Kilos> wassup <kbmonkey> awe wow those are so funny! * kbmonkey wi-fives Owkkuri and cocooncrash <Owkkuri> P <cocooncrash> Maaz: http://twitter.com/#!/mgorven/status/77382856397168641 <Maaz> cocooncrash: afernandez: "FTP Joke Incoming - Please see my other Twitter account for the Actual Joke #protolol" <kbmonkey> +1 for #protolol hashtag <Squirm> hello <Squirm> anyone here know about samba and it's file permissions <kbmonkey> hi squirm <kbmonkey> what about the permissions? <kbmonkey> the samba docs and tuts are huge I only touched on some of them <queery> maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery! <Squirm> kbmonkey: well, I want an excel file to have read/write permissions for all users. But as soon as a user edits the file, it changes the file permissions <queery> maaz, ty <Maaz> Enjoy queery <kbmonkey> hello queery <queery> hi kbmonkey <kbmonkey> excel, squirm? well excel locks the files you open so only one preson can edit it at a time. <kbmonkey> that's not a samba issue, that is Excel being neurotic <Squirm> no, no <Squirm> look <Squirm> -rwxrwxrwx 1 shan users 41472 Jun 1 10:23 Grade 1 - Shan.xls <Squirm> thats what it should like <Squirm> but <Squirm> -rwxr--r-- 1 joanine users 53760 Jun 6 10:20 Grade 3 - Kirsten.xls <Squirm> thats what it looks like after joanine edits it <kbmonkey> ah <kbmonkey> okay I see <superfly> Squirm: check the umask of files in the config, I think you can set it there somewhere <Squirm> and in smb.conf, I have these <Squirm> create mask = ugo=rwx <Squirm> directory mask = ugo=rwx <Squirm> force group = users <Squirm> force directory mode = ugo=rwx <Squirm> force create mode = ugo=rwx * superfly hasn't used samba in years <Squirm> and it used to be 7777 <kbmonkey> yes you need to set the default permission <superfly> Squirm: isn't there a write mask as well? <kbmonkey> usually files keep their permissions. I bet excel is recreating the file which recreates the default ro permission <Squirm> thats why I put create mode <Squirm> and create mask <kbmonkey> try write mask as superfly said <kbmonkey> long shot but try use the 'mask = 0777' format instead of ugo=rwx <Squirm> ok <Squirm> lets see <Squirm> ok <Squirm> new problem <Squirm> the user can't write to the file, if they don't have ownership <Squirm> yet the rw permissions are 0777 <Squirm> yet the user Joanine can <Squirm> bleh <kbmonkey> I had the same problem on my HTPC where copying files over the network changed ownership :/ <Squirm> it changes ownership, but all users are on users <Squirm> in users* <kbmonkey> I think samba has it's own user (default nobody) <Squirm> I made it force group users <Squirm> as well <kbmonkey> if you restart the smbd service make sure the clients (your pc's) remount the share too <superfly> Squirm: if you force user, doesn't that negate the user themselves? <kbmonkey> to reload the permissions <kbmonkey> so did create mask = 0777 let it write the file at least? <Squirm> no <Squirm> it won't let me write to the file, when the owner is joanine <Squirm> yet the permission are 0777 <Squirm> excel just throws, "Access Denied. Contact Administrator" <Squirm> so I chown trish:users <Squirm> aand it works <kbmonkey> is one person editing over the network and another on the pc itself? <superfly> kbmonkey: they can't, they're both Windows users ;-) <kbmonkey> Im not a samba fundi myself ;) <Squirm> its stored on a debian server <kbmonkey> it sounds like each user uses a different samba account <Squirm> im logged into the server via ssh <Squirm> and each user has a samba account <Squirm> I'm at a school, all the teachers have a username and password to map the network drive, where they have to edit these files <kbmonkey> have a look here squirm http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html <kbmonkey> also shows there adding valid users to a share, that may help <Squirm> I'm sure I set samba to use linux directory permissions <kbmonkey> linux permissions take precedence over samba permissions, that seems to be conflicting <Squirm> I'm really confused <kbmonkey> samba does that to me too squirm :/ <kbmonkey> we need samba experts, have you tried their forums and mailing list? <Squirm> but why does it not work, yet all the users are in the group users <Squirm> and the file permission is 0777 <Squirm> DIE <kbmonkey> sorry Squirm wish I knew the answer for you! <kbmonkey> googling gives many answers but all variations of the problem and the rest say what you have tried <Squirm> kbmonkey: I think I sorted it out <Squirm> they were in the directory attendance, which ended in the t dir permission. so maybe they could only edit it because they had ownership <Squirm> otherwise because only joanine could change the permissions, it wouldnt work <kbmonkey> :) <Squirm> so I think <Squirm> its done * Squirm edits the file with joanine <kbmonkey> Im too clear on what you mean by 'directory attendance'? <Squirm2> kbmonkey: the directory, 'attendance' <Squirm2> but it seems the problem has now been sorted <kbmonkey> oh that's good Squirm! <Kilos> Paddy's in jail. The Guard looks in his cell and see's him hanging by his feet. <Kilos> "What are you doing?" he asks. <Kilos> "Hanging myself," Paddy replies. <Kilos> "It should be round your neck," says the guard. <Kilos> "I tried that," says Paddy, "but I couldn't breathe." <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz washes some mugs <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <Kilos> Maaz, gracias amigo <Maaz> Â¡de nada compadre <Kilos> any grub experts around? <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20AOgDE7J <Kilos> i explained my prob and what i have done at the pastebin <superfly> tumbleweed: ping <superfly> Kilos: you only need 1 swap partition between multiple installations <superfly> why do you have 4? <Kilos> superfly, the installations made them on their own <Kilos> i didnt make my own partitions <Kilos> also now there is about 50g of the drive split into the extra installations <Kilos> also i bangerig to delete the swaps and make one just yet <Kilos> if i can remove the last 2 mavericks alongside then i will worry about swap <Kilos> and also is it safe to make the new swap with gparted <Kilos> hehe gparted shows what a mess the drive is in even though its working lekker <Kilos> dunno where to send a screenshot <queery> looking for a job in sciences and stumbled on to this: http://www.pnet.co.za/index.php?s=advert_view&g=3002&x=2187336&i=7007&pop=1 <kbmonkey_> I really want a tux logo on my netbook win key <Kilos> night all sleep tight and warm #ubuntu-za 2011-06-07 <tumbleweed> superfly: pong <superfly> tumbleweed: no worries, I got it sorted... grub problems <Kilos> morning superfly and others <superfly> hiya Kilos <inetpro> good morning Kilos, superfly, ++ <Kilos> lo inetpro <superfly> hiya inetpro <Kilos> lo |3o|3 <|3o|3> hey Kilos <queery> maaz, announce Western Cape Ubuntu Hour this Sunday at The Rock Room in Stellenbosch, RSVP and details at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1018/detail/ <Maaz> Announcement from queery! Western Cape Ubuntu Hour this Sunday at The Rock Room in Stellenbosch, RSVP and details at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1018/detail/ <queery> Maaz, set the topic: IRC meeting 20 June 19:30: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/91/detail/ || Ubuntu South Africa LoCoTeam || Website: http://ubuntu-za.org/ || Forum: http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ || Join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za || Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za ||Events: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/events || Pastebin: paste.ubuntu.com or codepad.org || Next Ubuntu Hour 12 June: http://loco.ubuntu <queery> .com/events/team/1018/detail/ <Maaz> queery: Excuse me? <queery> maaz change channel topic to: IRC meeting 20 June 19:30: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/91/detail/ || Ubuntu South Africa LoCoTeam || Website: http://ubuntu-za.org/ || Forum: http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ || Join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za || Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za ||Events: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/events || Pastebin: paste.ubuntu.com or codepad.org || Next Ubuntu Hour 12 June: http://lo <Maaz> hoe lyk it <queery> co.ubuntu.com/events/team/1018/detail/ <queery> dink nie dit het gewerk nie <Kilos> lol <Kilos> lo queery <queery> hi kilos <getack> quiet <Kilos> hi getack <Kilos> never seen you here before\ <Kilos> or new nick <getack> hello kilos. first time here. :-/ <getack> Im kinda active on the mailing lists usually <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za <getack> thanks :-) <Kilos> been very quiet here the last while but we do have good days <getack> if it's quiet here it probably means nobody is having problems lol <Kilos> yeah <Kilos> thats good though <Kilos> just kinda lonely with only the coffee bot <kbmonkey> hi getack and Kilos :) <Kilos> hiya kb <Kilos> grrr <Kilos> kbmonkey, <getack> hello kbmonkey <Kilos> lo bmg505 <getack> any folks from pta in here? <Kilos> normally yes <Kilos> they most likely lurking <getack> Yeah, like I usually do when I'm online. not that there's anything wrong with lurking? <Kilos> hehe <kbmonkey> :D <Kilos> lol <Kilos> Maaz, lurkers <Maaz> Lurkers are shirkers <Kilos> naughty maaz <getack> Anyway, since this is the support channel, I'ma gonna ask a support question. <getack> It's regarding empathy. How do I make it play it's little new message chime, when I have focus on the chat window? Right now it's only notifying me if another window has focus, which is nice, but I do not stare constantly at my screen, so I might miss something when I'm not looking at the screen <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz puts the kettle on <getack> is maaz real, or a machine? coz he replies really fast. <Kilos> dunno bout empathy i use pidgin <Kilos> bot <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please <Maaz> kbmonkey: Done <Kilos> superbot <Squirm2> http://www.bitterwallet.com/what-does-the-ip-in-ip-address-stand-for-ask-stephen-timms/27968 <kbmonkey> caffeinebot :D he won't serve tea <Kilos> getack, must be in settings or tools then preferences <Kilos> lo Squirm <Squirm2> evening <Kilos> lol <kbmonkey> check the Empathy preferences getack? <getack> hmm I might just move over to pidgin. My natty is still quite new, just getting to know her :-) <getack> No tea? <getack> maaz, tea please? <Maaz> Everybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty <getack> ah. very well. <Kilos> hehe <Squirm2> lol <kbmonkey> ha ha! <Squirm2> ...denied <kbmonkey> I prefer Pidgin myself <Squirm2> same <Kilos> pidgin rocks <getack> Anyway, since I'm new here, Ill introduce myself! <Kilos> go on we listening <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey! <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend <Kilos> is the whoile internet sick the last week or two or is it just vodacom <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks! <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay :-) <Kilos> getack, fill us in on what you do and where <Kilos> we have some clever peeps in pta <kbmonkey> where are you from getack ? <getack> Hello all, my name is Getack. This is my de-facto internet handle, so If you see 'getack' anywhere else, it might be me. <Kilos> just kinda inactive lately <getack> Im 21, male, and a student to the University of Pretoria. I'm currently reading towards a degree in Information Science, specializing in multi-media. The second half of my second year is almost finished now. <getack> I have been a full-time 'buntu user for maybe two years now, and loving it! <Kilos> great nice to hear that <getack> thanks :-) <Kilos> hope you visit us regularly <Kilos> or even become a permanent fixture here <getack> I will definitely. <kbmonkey> yes irc is fun! <Kilos> have you tried pidgin <getack> I am behind my pc most of the day, so Ill possibly be online always. <Kilos> has everything and otr that the others dont have <Kilos> that good news <getack> Im gonna download pidgin now. Tried it before, never really used it much. <kbmonkey> I am a keyboard monkey, I like keyboard shortcuts. I stay in Durban and love the smell of ground coffee! <Kilos> lol <kbmonkey> anyone can recommend a mod/s3m player? <getack> hello kb. ground coffee is nice. Just had myself a huge mug of freshly ground Abyssinian! <kbmonkey> Wow get! That's nice :) The nicest coffee I had was from Rome, I drank it for a whole month :) <Kilos> I am the non pc pro on the channel <getack> nice! <getack> kilos: what pro are you then? ;-) <Kilos> um <Kilos> er <Kilos> whew <Kilos> dunno how to explain it <getack> It's okay, this place is anonymous ;-) <Kilos> was an electronic tech in the post office <Kilos> maybe 40 years ago <Kilos> then a diesel mechanic <Kilos> then a farmer <Kilos> then a corpse <Kilos> now i just me <Kilos> hehe <kbmonkey> extensive repetoire! <Kilos> lol <getack> ah I see... Well I'm still a student, so technically I'm not a pro at anything yet. <Kilos> im the one that needs the most help here and makes the most mistakes <kbmonkey> that's longer than I have lived! <Kilos> lol <kbmonkey> turning 30 this year :) <Kilos> but this is my home since starting to play with pc's <Kilos> my son is 35 and daughter 24 <Kilos> you will see wolfeyes here whenever he gets stuck <Kilos> just gone to kubuntu natty <Kilos> i be the grandpa here i think <Kilos> and i love cyber coffee <getack> nothing wrong with being the grandpa :-) <getack> At least ask if you get stuck! On IRC nogal! <Kilos> and ubuntu of course <Kilos> lol <Kilos> i was driven here by a hatred of winsucks and all the hassles and no online help ever without first paying $49 <getack> Ah I see. Anyway, Im going to of off now, quickly gonna setup pidgin and remove empathy and so on brb! <kbmonkey> same here Kilos, same here! <Kilos> hehe <kbmonkey> well let me get cracking. I added unstable repos to install nvidia drivers which broke some packages, need to fix that <Kilos> eish <getack> back :-) <Kilos> getack, wb <getack> thanks :-) <Kilos> i dunno about natty but in synaptic there is lots you can add to pidgin like blinklight etc <Kilos> on maverick and earlier i had to make it use alsa sound as well <getack> One day Ill explore it in depth. It looks like it works now. <getack> Maaz, my coffee is finished... <Maaz> getack: Got it <Kilos> lol <Kilos> he uses coffee on <getack> hmm. I love talking to bots. Especially when I make them fail the Turing test! <Kilos> lol <getack> Anyway, Im going into lurk mode now, I've got exam tomorrow... <Kilos> study well <Kilos> and good luck for the exam <getack> thanks! <kbmonkey> time to eat some soup :] <Kilos> yip. best food for this weather <Kilos> with lotsa chilli in <queery> maaz google lee evans <Maaz> queery: "Lee Evans (comedian) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Evans_(comedian) 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Lee Evans - IMDb" http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262968/ 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Lee Evans, WR for the Buffalo cisneroselizabeth@example.net" http://www.nfl.com/players/leeevans/profile?id=EVA454901 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Lee Evans - Buffalo Bills - NFL - Yahoo! Sports" http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6772 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab "Lee Evans Profile - Buffalo Bills - ESPN" http://sports.espn.go <queery> maaz ty <Maaz> Enjoy queery #ubuntu-za 2011-06-08 <sakhi> mornings <Kilos> morning superfly and others <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <superfly> morning Kilos <superfly> Maaz: coffee please <Maaz> superfly: Okay <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and superfly! <Kilos> Maaz, ty <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos <Kilos> hi |3o|3 <|3o|3> Sup Kilos <Kilos> same old same old <|3o|3> Yeah... <|3o|3> same old is same old. <Kilos> lol <superfly> old same is old same <superfly> :-P <Kilos> just a different day <Kilos> i just deleted 3 of the 4 /swaps. If i missing for a while i messed up again <Kilos> w00t <Kilos> only one swap partition and also removed the last 2 maverick installs that i used to get grub fixed all on gparted <Kilos> then ran sudo update-grub and here we go <Kilos> took a while but getting there <Kilos> Maaz, middagete <Maaz> Tuis gemaakde bees en groente sop met lekker vars brood <Kilos> yum yum <sakhi> http://ipv6-test.com <Kilos> hi sakhi <sakhi> hi Kilos how is it going? <Kilos> well ty sakhi and you? <sakhi> good thanks. <superfly> I need to get my home network running IPv6 <tumbleweed> is the tenet 6to4 relay still borked? <tumbleweed> miredo works pretty well, if slow <afrodeity> anybody know where to get the organic beer in ct? <Kilos> Maaz, whats for supper <Maaz> Steak , egg and chips. And a free Coke <Kilos> hmm too cold for coke <Kilos> Maaz, what else <Maaz> Kilos: What? <Kilos> grrr <Kilos> hi kingmilo <kingmilo> howzit <Kilos> havent see you before. welcome to ubuntu-za <kingmilo> yea thanks man <kingmilo> I was thinking of setting up a LoCo for za and then found one ;) <Kilos> there are a few i think <kingmilo> how active is this one, the website doesnt seem to be kept up to date? <Kilos> depends how busy the guys are at work <kingmilo> are there any people here who develop for ubuntu? <Kilos> sometimes very busy <Kilos> methinks tumbleweed does <kingmilo> Yup for sure :) I know how it is.. . <Kilos> and cocooncrash is the expert on pc crashes <kingmilo> Alright. Anybody here looking after big Ubuntu installations? <Kilos> kingmilo, you will need to hang on for the sysadmin guys they will know more <Kilos> and superfly <Kilos> i just say hi to new peeps <Kilos> lol <kingmilo> ha ha alright. thanks boss. <Kilos> yw <Kilos> havva cuppa cybercoffee so long <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on * Maaz starts grinding coffee <superfly> depends on what you mean by "develop for Ubuntu" <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already <kingmilo> superfly, contribute to an official package shipped with Ubuntu <superfly> not yet <superfly> hoping to get my app into Debian, though probably not in time for the next release of Ubuntu <kingmilo> ok superfly <kingmilo> I am interested in finding out if anybody in SA runs large Ubuntu installations for corporates, LTSP or other. <superfly> that depends on your definition of "large Ubuntu installations" <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! <superfly> are you talking server or desktop? managed or unmanaged? <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) <tumbleweed> kingmilo: I'm an Ubuntu developer. highvoltage too. <superfly> and what your definition of "large" is as well <kingmilo> Managed server. I am in the business of migrating corporates from Microsoft TS to Ubuntu TS, currently I manage quite a few installations, probably +- 1000 desktops and I am curious to find out if anybody else in SA is involved in the same thing. * tumbleweed doesn't know of anyone doing things like that, but I probably wouldn't <tumbleweed> highvoltage used to work in that area, you can ask him <kingmilo> alright thanks. Will be nice to share experiences. <tumbleweed> superfly: so how are our grand plans to pull you in going? :) <kingmilo> tumbleweed, what package/s do you contribute towards? <superfly> tumbleweed: I've been plagued by sickness, computer hardware problems, and commercial work <superfly> I need another one of me just to be able to handle the work I'm currently doing! <tumbleweed> kingmilo: mostly python stuff (mostly in Debian: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=stefanor ), and in Ubuntu I work on developer tools, helping new developers, and MOTU stuff <tumbleweed> superfly: heh, yeah we'd all love one of those <tumbleweed> kingmilo: if you'd like to help out, we could always use more people in MOTU <kingmilo> tumbleweed, ok nice. <kingmilo> tumbleweed, I would like to help out where I can, at the moment I am setting up an opensource company that will provide opensource solutions/services to the south african business sector. I am also looking into setting up a full local software mirror, similiar to mirror.ac.za, we could always do with more. <kingmilo> And then I would like to lend my python skills to a project within ubuntu. <tumbleweed> ubuntu uses a lot of python * tumbleweed doesn't know if ZA needs more mirrors, but something I'd like to see is a security.debian.org in ZA <kingmilo> I think we could do with more, there are some repositories not available on our mirrors and the popular mirrors are IS and university driven none really by a independent NPO <kingmilo> What is the status of this loCo, how are you guys doing in SA, what do you guys do, whats this loCo all about <tumbleweed> yes, mirror.ac.za isn't as reliable as it could be. But they have more than enough bandwith <tumbleweed> it's not like the US where there isn't a single mirror that can take the load for the country <tumbleweed> the loco isn't doing too much, basically just release parties and some ubuntu hours <tumbleweed> I'll try and make the next global jam happen again (we missed the last one) <kingmilo> alright, are you in charge tumbleweed ? Id like to help where/if I can to get it a more active if possible. * tumbleweed is not incharge <marcog> kingmilo: where are you based? <kingmilo> Cape town marcog <tumbleweed> kingmilo: like any community, it needs people to take initiative and organise things. The team contacts (who are about as in charge as you get) can't do everything and we shouldn't expect them too <superfly> kingmilo: no one is in charge... it's a "do-ocracy" <marcog> tumbleweed: has michiel spoken to you yet about doing some open source dev? <tumbleweed> marcog: yes <kingmilo> alright. <marcog> kingmilo: same as me and tumbleweed :) <tumbleweed> cape town is pretty active for open source, compared to the rest of the country <marcog> tumbleweed: cool, maybe also see if kieren is interested? i know he's been looking hard for an internship even after #btr didn't get him one and he hasn't been successful yet <kingmilo> marcog nice :) <kingmilo> I wonder how many people in this channel I have probably met. <kingmilo> is there anybody in this LoCo who is without employment ? <marcog> quite a few of us are still studying <marcog> if that counts <kingmilo> Ahh ok. Im probably the grampa here then at 31 <Kilos> hehe <marcog> Kilos will disagree :P <Kilos> and inetpro and superfly i think <kingmilo> ha ha ok <tumbleweed> kingmilo: that doesn't put you that much older than marcog and me <kingmilo> alright I dont feel too bad then. <kingmilo> Gents it's been real. I will pop in more often and see where i can get involved. Thanks for answering all my random questions. cheers. <kbmonkey> weee! <Kilos> lo kbmonkey <kbmonkey> lo Kilos <kbmonkey> koud! <Kilos> baie <nuvolari> aloha <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos , kbmonkey <Kilos> naand nuvolari <kbmonkey> hello hello nuvolari :) <Kilos> wens ek was daare by julle nou <Kilos> vrek koud jier <nuvolari> :P ja is lekker hier oom <nuvolari> koud
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