#ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-01 <AgentKilo> hi #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-02 <tumbleweed> hi, anyone know anything about gnome-power-manager? <tumbleweed> acpi -V gives totally sane battery information <tumbleweed> but gnome-power-manager thinks my battery is either full or empty <tumbleweed> http://rivera.za.net/tmp/battery.png <mdke_> tumbleweed: you should file a bug <tumbleweed> mdke_: :-) <tumbleweed> mdke_: I want to take a good look at gnome-power-manager first <tumbleweed> see how it gets it's hands on the data #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-03 <tritium> hi crimsun <tritium> How are things, crimsun? <crimsun> hi, busy <crimsun> you? <tritium> Same. * nixternal notes crimsun better be busy fixing my sound boog :) <tritium> But, trying to find some time to test herd-1. * nixternal hurries and runs prior to getting bashed from... <crimsun> what's your sound bug? <crimsun> nixternal: did you actually have a reference to a bug report, or is this utter crap? <nixternal> it is the one we discussed that is to be fixed with the latest alsa-drivers you were/are working on <nixternal> intel sound really low on the laptop <crimsun> so have you been proactive in testing 2.6.20-3.4? <nixternal> not on edgy i haven't <crimsun> it has been available for about 21 hours * crimsun sighs <nixternal> ok, here is a dumb question, how do i safely go about getting the 2.6.20-3.4 kernel in edgy? <crimsun> download the appropriate linux-image deb <nixternal> k, so i will grab the image, headers, and restricted-modules <crimsun> do you need all that? <nixternal> ya, vmware server <nixternal> hrmm. i forget that i don't need restricted with my laptop :) <nixternal> crimsun: no different with the new kernel <crimsun> which bug # ? <nixternal> hrmm. dunno, i never got a chance to boog it, but you had told me someone had the same issue as i did with it <crimsun> is this the one where you have to reboot into Windows first to have volume be audible? <nixternal> no no. i have sound but it is very low <nixternal> i can't boot into windows, don't even own a disc :) <crimsun> well, there goes one testing vector <nixternal> hehe <nixternal> well, it did work well in windows <nixternal> the 5 minutes it was installed <crimsun> lspci -nv, please <nixternal> paste bin the whole thing or are you after something specific? <crimsun> 0403 <nixternal> Subsystem: 103c:30a5 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 Memory at d0340000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> <nixternal> 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 01) <nixternal> err, sorry bout the first <nixternal> and with KMix there is only Master and PCM for Output, which seems odd <crimsun> damned realteks. <nixternal> well, i have realtek in both of my desktops and they rock <nixternal> im sure the lappy realteks are way different <crimsun> realtek HDAs are problematic <crimsun> does /proc/asound/card0/codec* report an analog devices codec or a realtek one? <nixternal> i see conexant id 5047 <nixternal> for codec: <crimsun> amixer, pleae <crimsun> please ^ <nixternal> what do you want from that? <nixternal> i see volume and pcm which are the 2 outputs, and capture for input <crimsun> I need all the output <nixternal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/310/ <crimsun> um <crimsun> what the. <crimsun> patch_conexant.c is utterly missing <nixternal> heh <nixternal> so that would be the problem then? <nixternal> is there a bug for this already? <crimsun> yes, it's very old <nixternal> bug 76741 seems similar, but i do have sound with speakers and headphones <nixternal> im gonna eat some pizza, i will bbiaf if you have more questions, but it seems you have your finger on it already. thanks! <crimsun> well, your issue is specifically due to upstream not having pushed the requisite Conexant changes to Linus <crimsun> as in the file itself just doesn't exist <crimsun> neither is hda_generic.c touched <mjg59> edgy was unhappy on my parents' new desktop until I forced the codec <crimsun> great, I love carrying deltas <mjg59> Not enough bandwidth there to try 2.6.20, though <mjg59> This codec stuff is all a bit of a nightmare <mjg59> Why can't hda be simple? <crimsun> but it's -high definition-, it must be awesome! <mjg59> Haha <olem> Hi all, <olem> I've just edited and modified some pages in wiki. Is that the correct way to do or did I missed something? <olem> (some pages relatives to LaptopTestingTeams of course) <Nailor> That's propably the most correct way =) <olem> ok. thx. <olem> I was just wondering why the "Contact:" tag. If I was supposed to mail to this contact my changes... <olem> ...and I was wondering too why all the peoples mailed when I commit/save my modifs. <Nailor> Well, they're just admins of the wiki etc. It's normal that they get mail <Nailor> The best way to tell people what you've done, is to write a short description (in to the field reserved for it) of the changes you made <Nailor> That way people can check the wiki page version history and see what changes you or someone else has done <Nailor> The "Optional comment about this change"-field <olem> ok. that's what I've done. Thanks for the background infos. #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-04 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <lichen> :( <lichen> i don't think xorg supports the X1400 in my thinkpad :( <lichen> and ATI has like a single binary driver available for an older version <Nailor> The fglrx binary is not working? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-05 <merlin-linux> anyone here with a Acer Aspire laptop tried feisty on it yet #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-06 <feNNec_> slt #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-07 <GoHabsGo> hi people, im getting this bug with Edgy Final on an HP tc4400 tablet PC http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40604.html , is it resolved ? <jimbob> can anyone help. usb mouse stopps working after a few min on my laptop. touchpad still works <yelo3> hello! <mpittle> Whats the battery monitor for ubuntu (gnome) called? <professor> I am having lots of trouble getting wireless to work on my laptop. I am running dapper and I have a broadcom internal wireless card <CrazyDoode> !bcm43xx <CrazyDoode> lol.. i guess not.. haha.. hang on. <CrazyDoode> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 <CrazyDoode> imho, don't use ndiswrapper. If you've installed it.. be sure to follow the instructions to uninstall it. <CrazyDoode> when using fwcutter (which works great on my el-cheepo dell btw!) i found it easier to ... haaha.. i guess he'll never know. #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-08 <trylik> hello <trylik> one question <trylik> anybody there? <christiane> I think "one question" has left just before you entered ;-) <trylik> no <trylik> :) <trylik> can you tell me <trylik> how can i add wiki page about my laptop? <trylik> i've necer used wiki before <trylik> and it is high time to do it (isn't it?) <christiane> Mmh, that's a good idea. I can't tell you exactly *how* to do it ... but maybe you want to add your model to http://tuxmobil.org ... <christiane> ... too <trylik> see i have asus a6u and there is no such model is laptop list <trylik> can do both i think :) <trylik> have some hour to spend <christiane> http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_submit.html <trylik> there is gentoo page for it <trylik> now what? <christiane> follow the white rabb... err link I just posted. <trylik> i've done this already <trylik> and submitted my model, brand, os etc <trylik> now? <christiane> Enjoy the good feeling having done something really good to all mankind ... <trylik> great <christiane> btw. where's the entry you just made? <christiane> An Asus A6U? Can't find another than the gentoo ... <trylik> Submit Confirmation <trylik> Thank you for your submission. All submissions will be reviewed manually and therefore may take a little time to appear on the TuxMobil webpage. You will get an acknowledgement in less than a week. If you don't get it please check your mail address. Yes sometimes I get a message with an invalid sender address. <trylik> "manually" <christiane> ah ok <trylik> nm <trylik> bye #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-10 <GA2> Bo Selecta #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-11 <patrick_> hi i am looking for some help configuring my microphone and headphones on my laptop that is running ubuntu 6.10 <patrick_> is this the right place? <patrick_> if not, can someone tell me what channel i might be able to get some help? <Nailor> This isn't a help channel, but shoot, I'll try to help you =) <patrick_> hi nailor, i have a laptop that has built in speakers and mic, as well as jacks on the front for headphones and mic. only the main speakers work <patrick_> trying to get mic to work <Nailor> built in mic? <Nailor> Use alsamixer (or some similiar program, like gnome volume controls) to check, that the capture is on for the mic <patrick_> yep <patrick_> thats the problem... limited options and dont allow for mic.. <Nailor> What have you tried? <Nailor> the software, i mean <patrick_> alsa drivers <patrick_> and trying to find answers on ubuntu so trying everything i can find. still pretty new to linux <Nailor> Well. Run alsamixer in terminal (type in 'alsamixer' without quotes and hit return) <Nailor> You should get screen with bars for master, pcm, mic etc. <patrick_> yep, i just get master, pcm and capture <patrick_> the mic on capture is unmuted and turned up <patrick_> if i boot the computer with the jacks i, i get a couple more options in alsamixer <patrick_> but shouldnt the options refer to the plugs themselves and not the jacks? <Nailor> Yup <Nailor> On capture page, is there a Capture-slider? <patrick_> there is a slider for the speaker and mic <patrick_> they are both full <Nailor> You're on capture page, so that in the View:-part in upper left corner Capture is hilighted? <patrick_> yep <Nailor> Funny, I wonder why there's a slider for speaker <Nailor> Mic has the "capture" text underneath the bar? <patrick_> yeah i dont know either. seems that a few people have the same issue i have from what i have seen on the net, but noone knows how to fix it <Nailor> Oh <patrick_> what do you mean? <patrick_> i have two tabs <patrick_> playback and capture <Nailor> Yeah <patrick_> on the playback one i have master and pcm <Nailor> And on capture-tab, you have sliders for mic? <patrick_> on the capture i have "capture" <patrick_> there is a dual slider <Nailor> No mic there? <patrick_> with a pic of a speaker on the left bar, and a pic of a mic on the right bar <Nailor> Oh, you're using the gnome volume control? <patrick_> yeah, alsa mixer is exactly the same though.. hold on, will load that now <patrick_> ok, using alsamixer <patrick_> yeah in capture it says capture under the bar <Nailor> But there's no mic in the capture tab of alsamixer? <patrick_> nope <Nailor> Oh. <Nailor> Seems like it doesn't recognize your mic =( <Nailor> What laptop you got? <patrick_> compaq v3118au <patrick_> posted on a few places as ozPATT <patrick_> on the web <patrick_> but noone knows <Nailor> Well, can't really say what kind of magic is preventing the mic to show up <patrick_> ok, well thanks for trying though <xota> hello! <xota> i have a problem with my dv2031 <xota> no audio when I connect headphones <xota> anybody can help me? * xota saluda! #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-12 <avaricen> Whats the link on the battery monitor for gnome? <avaricen> When you click 'About' <avaricen> A link should popup :P <avaricen> I just 'really' like that battery monitor, and i'm on another dist <avaricen> It doesn't come with it i'm afraid <avaricen> It's called 'battmon' I think #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-13 <mdke> OT, how do people clean their laptops? <Nailor> Keyboard with air, display with a cloth, normally a dry microfiber cloth <Nailor> Sometimes with a lightly moistured cloth <mdke> Nailor: can you tell me more about the "keyboard with air" bit? <Nailor> I've been using pressurised air to blow all the dust off beneath the keyboard <Nailor> Or beneath the buttons <Nailor> At least in finland you can buy 'canned pressurised air (a product called Dust-Off) <mdke> I might have a look for that <mdke> I don't think the keys can be easily taken off... <Nailor> At least electronic component resellers sell those <Nailor> Propably not, and you might even break some keys doing that (depends how they are attached) <Nailor> But if you blow air from one side, the crap comes out from the other =) <mdke> Nailor: will try. Maybe a vacuum cleaner will have some effect, too <Nailor> I've used that one too, but i've found the pressurised air to be more efficent * mdke nods <junk1> help pls i dont need suport i need help #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-14 <junk1> laptop ibma22m my wireless card is wn825gv2 motorola <junk1> it dont work but should <junk1> hello? <junk1> damn no help here eather its as bad as the boards thanks for nothing #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-15 <fastly> anyone here know how to mount my built-in memorystick reader? <fastly> can't find it under /dev <fastly> read somewhere that it's /dev/sda1 but that's not ther <CrazyDoode> it should automount it..in /mnt <fastly> it doesn't <CrazyDoode> hang on booting up my ubuntu <fastly> thx <CrazyDoode> one way to check to see where it is ... plug it in and run dmesg <fastly> loads of stuff... <fastly> know what i should grep for? <CrazyDoode> unplug the device, then remount it and it should be the last thing <fastly> it's built into my laptop <fastly> memorystick card reader on my vaio <CrazyDoode> do you have media in the reader? <fastly> hmm.... in which case it says that it's /dev/hda2 <fastly> and fdisk -l says: /dev/hda2 5320 9729 35423325 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) <fastly> look right? <fastly> both my windows partitions are ntfs... <fastly> any idea how to allow this to be automounted? <CrazyDoode> make a mountpoint and put it in fstab <fastly> what type should i mount it as? mount -t ??? /dev/hda2 /mnt/memorystick ..? <CrazyDoode> prolly fat <CrazyDoode> but im surprised it's not automounting and autocreating a mountpoint. <fastly> same here... wondering if there could be a setting in my kernel ?? <fastly> ... that's switched off <fastly> hmm.. can't mount it <fastly> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/memorystick/ <fastly> wrong fs type <CrazyDoode> try auto <CrazyDoode> or usbfs <CrazyDoode> maybe your media is flawed <fastly> media works when booting to windows <fastly> gonna reboot quickly <lisander_> hello everybody <lisander_> my name is lisander taveras former dominican republic ubuntu locoteam <lisander_> i have a toshiba m45-s359 <lisander_> with edgy, any time i press right shift key the keyboard goes crazy <lisander_> in can not find proper keyboard layout for my laptop <lisander_> i need to resolve this issue because everytime i press shift key i have to logout and login back <lisander_> i gonna to smack the laptop on the floor <lisander_> please gurus help me <lisander_> nobody <lisander_> please <Burgundavia> hmm <Burgundavia> can you define "goes crazy"? <lisander_> the keys swaps <lisander_> everything goes capslock <lisander_> enter key dont work <lisander_> etc <lisander_> etc <Burgundavia> did you try another keymap? <lisander_> yes but no toshiba layout on the list <lisander_> i try dell, compaq, etc <lisander_> nothing works <Burgundavia> which list? <lisander_> system, preferences, keyboard <Burgundavia> which list did you select"dell, etc":? <lisander_> on that list <lisander_> and advice <Burgundavia> which list? in Ubuntu? <lisander_> if you see that i suddenly logout from the chat room i have been pressed shift key i will back asap <lisander_> yes <lisander_> in ubuntu edgy <lisander_> in the system menu <lisander_> preference <lisander_> keyboard <Burgundavia> ok <lisander_> layouts <Burgundavia> did you try US english? <lisander_> yes <Burgundavia> and what else have you tried? <lisander_> ufff <Burgundavia> uff? <lisander_> i try to specified a shift key <Burgundavia> right <Burgundavia> and? <lisander_> dont work <lisander_> something like key 42 = shift <lisander_> i cant remember right now <lisander_> anyone on the team a toshiba m45 series <lisander_> have a toshiba m45 series <Burgundavia> ok <lisander_> where i can find more keyboard layout <lisander_> like a extension <Burgundavia> you can add more <Burgundavia> through that dialgue <Burgundavia> do you have any other oses on that machine? <lisander_> or upgrade <lisander_> recently i install hasefroch on a virtual machine and anything goes fine <Burgundavia> hasefroch? <lisander_> windows xp <lisander_> linux people refer windows as hasefroch <lisander_> black humor <Burgundavia> right <Burgundavia> and windows works? <lisander_> perfect <Burgundavia> hmm <Burgundavia> I am stumped <Burgundavia> sorry <lisander_> thank you for try to help me <Burgundavia> no worries <lisander_> next <lisander_> who is the next guru to try to help me <Geraner> Hello everybody! #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-16 <lisander_> hello its me again <lisander_> and i still have the weird behaivor on my laptop keyboard everytime y press right shift key <lisander_> i cant find a proper keyboard layout on system, preference, keyboard <lisander_> i have to use generic 104 keys <lisander_> i think this it the problem <lisander_> but <lisander_> i select others layout inclusive from other laptops like armada, dell, etc <lisander_> but the problem still persist <lisander_> any guru have an idea <lisander_> my laptop is toshiba m45-s359 <lisander_> please help!!!! #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-17 <juxhi> hello my edgy laptop doesn't recognise my pcmci card <juxhi> my lspci doesn't eve list it <juxhi> *even <geo_> that's very common <geo_> you might have to use ndswrapper * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <shantanu> hi <shantanu> If I take a live CD to test a laptop, how do I check the sound <mineur> greetings #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-20 <simira> hmm <simira> how do I swich to external monitor for my hp laptop? gnome control center doesn't have any good suggestions, and the hotkey doesn't work... #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-21 <dottedmag> Hi. I want to test that feisty will be compatible with the notebook I have. However, wiki page suggest testing compatiblility against the current stable version of Ubuntu? Is there established rules how to check compatibility during the alpha- and beta- testing? <dottedmag> hmm.. found it ;) #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-22 <vance> Is this the right place to give an FYI about what does and does not work on a Thinkpad X60 with Feisty Herd 2? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-24 <\sh> guys, I have a ibm thinkpad t43...latest feisty kernel doesn't give me any sound output anymore...is anyone getting this problem, too? <crimsun> \sh: post-resume (from suspend-to-disk) or at all from a cold boot? <crimsun> I can't imagine that AD1981B would have been broken completely (but it's certainly possible in the universe) <\sh> crimsun, problem on my side, alsa had headphone jack sensing enabled...which wasn't in edgy...that's why I didn't hear any sounds...muted this register, and everything is fine <mjg59> Headphone jack sensing doesn't work on Thinkpads <crimsun> \sh: yes, those changes that we made in dapper were dropped. I'll bump up the priority for the re-merging w/ tsmithe <mjg59> I thought we did somthing sane there automatically <crimsun> mjg59: yes, I'll work w/ toby to get those changes stuffed upstream so we don't have to continually carry the delta <mjg59> Cool <Simira> mjg59: what is happening to resume from suspend-bugs? There's been a pretty lot of them for a while... <mjg59> Simira: In my experience, there's almost no point in bothering until the kernel has settled down <mjg59> But also, I have approximately no time at present <Simira> mjg59: but this have been a problem since dapper, hasn't it? <mjg59> Which aspect? <Simira> is the kernel ever going to settle? <mjg59> I mean per-release <Simira> mjg59: laptops having problems with resuming from suspend to ram <mjg59> There's always going to be huge numbers of suspend-resume bugs <Simira> I deny to accept it! <mjg59> But in each individual release, there's little point in worrying until towards the end of the cycle <mjg59> There's such a huge number of interactions that stuff will mysteriously break and start working again on a frequent basis <Simira> mjg59: ok, I'll keep on testing then. But what about current release? <mjg59> It's unlikely that much can be done in a stable release #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-25 <mixandgo> hello <heretic42> Hello! Anyone succeeded in making the ir port of a laptop connect with a mobile phone? Machine is a Compaq Armada 1575D w. Dapper, sw is gnokii, phone is Nokia 6070. * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <bna> hi folks! <NightDream> who works on fujitsu? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-26 <dustin> Has anyone here had some experience with Reconstructor? Specifically with changing the default number of panels and the placement of said panels? <bna31> hi there <bna31> who died! <cruiseoveride> ive been reading around that the Thinkpad T60p is available with Linux, where can I buy this laptop? <cruiseoveride> found it #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-27 <Garren> Can anyone help me with this? <Garren> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found. <Garren> it happens when I do apt-get update <Tinku_> ubuntu is good distribution for notebook?? <Tinku_> ?? <crimsun> it's excellent on many notebooks, just as many distros are <Tinku_> i hear tha is problem for a internet camera.... <crimsun> ..."internet camera"? <Tinku_> yeah <crimsun> I don't know what that is. <crimsun> Are you referring to a "Webcam"? <Tinku_> meaybe i lern english <Tinku_> yeah webcam srry for that #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-30 <manuto> sorry... anyone could tell me why I cannot install ubuntu on my laptop? <Nailor> If you don't give any specific information: no :) <manuto> acer travelmate 2300.. thanks <Nailor> Have you checked the wiki and other sites is it even doable (has someone managed to do it?) <manuto> only on 2303 ore something like it <Nailor> Hmm. They are propably the same series <Nailor> With slight differences depending on where you bought it form <Nailor> *from <Nailor> or some slight differences in hardware (amount of memory etc) <manuto> do you want to know more information about the cpu? <Nailor> Well, propably all of the cpu's work. Can you tell where the install fails? <Nailor> Are you using the desktop installer or the alternate cd? <manuto> wnen the live cd starts, it always crash and stop the process...blocked <Nailor> Oh. <Nailor> Well, I really can't help you that much. You could try the alternate installer cd <manuto> I did it but it is not correctly working <manuto> I tried with ubunt, xubuntu both 6.06 and 6.10. both live and alternate <manuto> on this machine only works suse and dsl <manuto> but I don't't like them <manuto> can I find ubuntu 5.10 anywhere? <manuto> thanks ! bye <drew1313> hello all #ubuntu-laptop 2007-01-31 <loos> Hi guys, anyone have any idea why my live CD is giving me a horizontally skewed X display? <loos> I'm using 6.10 on a Macbook Pro <mjg59> Skewed in what way? <mjg59> We don't have any native graphics driver support for the MBP because ATI hate freedom <loos> I ran it over and over and now it worked :( <loos> skewed in the sense that instead of getting a white arrow as a pointer I get a white and black slash across the screen, when I move the pointer up it goes to the right then wraps around <loos> going up at an angle <mjg59> Hm. Sounds like a bug in the vesa driver. #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-03 <technomancy> hey, i was wondering something about the wacom device setup in xorg.conf <technomancy> why doesn't that get enabled automatically if the X config script detects that a tablet is attached? <technomancy> seems like it wouldn't be hard to do; there must be a reason it's not already done <dep1> please, who can help me to recompile ubuntu kernel 2.66.22 with restricted drivers support? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-04 <mrynit> hi <mrynit> :( <m3phistos> bonsoir tout le monde <m3phistos> je compte m'achetter prochainement un ordi portable, qui sera entierement sur linux <m3phistos> utilisation prÃ©vue: programation, navigation internet, bureautique et multimedia pas tres poussÃ© <m3phistos> quelqu'un aurait-il un lien vers un bon comparatif de pc 100% compatible ubuntu? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-05 <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom or network? <bAndie91> its impostant! <bAndie91> important <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom or network? <bAndie91> its important <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom or network? <bAndie91> its important <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom or network? <bAndie91> its important <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom or network? <bAndie91> its important <bAndie91> hi <bAndie91> how can i load an iso image (install cd) on hdd with grub?????? <bAndie91> its IMPORTANT #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-06 <giftnudel> #pylucid <giftnudel> oops #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-10 <UnNaturalHigh> does anybody here have working suspend with ubuntu and an intel 915 gfx chipset? <Accord> Hi, I'm trying to fill out a test report for Asus R2H. I've created a page on the wiki, but I'm not sure what the "works" should mean. <Accord> The screen resolution was not detected on install, but I had to edit xorg.conf then X comes up OK. Is that "works" or no? <simmerz> my ubuntu gusty machine won't mount a win32 format (not sure if its fat32 or ntfs) external usb drive. it shows up as connected by dmesg #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-12 <telexicon> Can I start adding results for laptop tests on hardy? <crimsun> telexicon: absolutely! <crimsun> (thanks, BTW!) <telexicon> np.. i've just been looking at deploying ubuntu where I work, we have a lot of different (mostly dell) laptops.. so I wanted to start testing them for the next release #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-14 <zeddock> Hi all. <zeddock> I am not used to this sort of communication but thought I might get some help here for a laptop purchase? <zeddock> I have narrowed to Dell. Vostros 1700, XPS 1730 or Precision 6300 <zeddock> any input? <zeddock> Will Gusty run well on these? <zeddock> ooops. Sorry. Will go to #ubuntu. <ZogG_laptop> hey <ZogG_laptop> someone succeded to configurate fn+f3 to lock touchpad on lg laptop? <ZogG_laptop> everybody online and noone to asnswer #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-15 <kurt> hello\ <kurt> i'm having a problem with my marvell atheros card <kurt> i can't get my atheros marvell card to work. ndiswrapper tells me that the driver is invalid <Raseel> Hi guys, I need help with my SONY Vaio VGN-FZ140E <Raseel> anyone ? <_Andrew> Whats the pro... oh you're gone <acharis> hi <acharis> i'm interested in working closely with a developer in getting my suspend/hibernate/resume issues worked out via bug writing and responding to the developers testing needs <acharis> kthxbai #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-16 <Szaln> Hello <Szaln> I'm planning to buy a thinkpad, but read something about acpi and hard disk cycles....... should i worry about that?? <Infecto> no #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-17 <despineira> MSI m670 suspends ok, but never resumes <despineira> what should I do? <despineira> I'm on Hardy Alpha 3 <despineira> How do I debug it? <despineira> I tried with sync; echo > 1 /sys/power/pm_trace; /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force and could not get any info <despineira> just it fails on /.../base/power/main.c:97 <despineira> and it means it failed waking up some device, but it dont tells which one <despineira> anyone? <despineira> are you all talking to each others privately? <despineira> why are people here and nobody is talking? <despineira> what's the point being here? <despineira> hey!!! <despineira> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYY #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-18 <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio laptop)? <Szaln> hello <Szaln> what's your favourite laptops brand? i mean, the best compatibles <Szaln> i'm thinking in buying a thikpad, but i need opinions <NoranRad> anybody experience with a vaio? <NoranRad> i cant find the battery anymore, it worked for a few weeks after the system install <NoranRad> it still works on the livecd, anybody know how i could find out whats different to the system on my hdd? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-19 <reaktae> anybody here to help me with my hp zv5000 graphics PLEASE?~! <reaktae> bump #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-21 <pg> Hi, after my laptop resumes from suspend, it can't play sound. I discovered that if I remove and reinsert the sound driver module it works. How can I make it work automatically? <p1> After my computer resumes from sleep, sound does not work. If I remove and reinsert the driver module it works again. I listed the module under MODULES in /etc/default/acpi-support, but that did not help. <OuZo> Hi, i have a HP dv9000 <OuZo> bought a 2nd hard drive for it <OuZo> but there are no instillation instructions <OuZo> or cables, screws <OuZo> or abyway for me to install it <OuZo> so i need to buy extera stuff to fit my 2nd hard drive? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-22 <ppibburr> i made a livecd from a feisty debootstrap for i386 on a amd64 laptop, worked, ran it on a desktop and it fried. that normal? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-23 <wifilapa> how old a laptop would have mini pci <localgod12> hellp <localgod12> hello #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-25 <bmk789> im having problems with video playback on my HP dv2660se, any suggestions? <bmk789> seems like the video driver #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-27 <linduxed> hey guys <linduxed> when i adjust the volume on my laptop in too rapid fashion (2-3 clicks/sec) the entire computer dies in an instant, what could this be caused by? <linduxed> or where should i look to get some output on the problem? <NeFaRi0uS> this room isn't for support <NeFaRi0uS> try #ubuntu-laptop <NeFaRi0uS> soz <NeFaRi0uS> #ubuntu <NeFaRi0uS> :P #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-28 <nowald> hi, can anyone help with a shoutdown trouble with 7.10 ? <zombie_monkey> do I have /quit <zombie_monkey> em <Robert1> how can i control my cpu fans?laptop amilo pa1538 amd64x2 #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-29 <mohbana> hi <gary4gar> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768, which is my notebook, it is fully supported, but i having some problems with it :(, can anyone offer a hand??, my wireless hotkey does not work(FN+F5). my i tested it with "xev" & i get i get this event http://www.pastebin.ca/877577 <gary4gar> my model number is 0768HCQ #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-30 <Petengy> hi to all <Petengy> some here was able to install ubuntu 64bit on a dell xps m1730??? <Petengy> there's someone here? <simira> not often :) <simira> did you check launchpad, or the laptoptesting-wikipage? <Petengy> simira: laptoptesting-wikipage ? could it help me ? I didn't konw <Petengy> simira: TnX I'll check now :) <simira> wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam <Petengy> simira: TnX :) <simira> np <Petengy> simira: nothing to do..... no solution for my not working live cd ..... <simira> did you try 32-bit? <Petengy> not yet... should I ? <simira> definitely, it's better supported anyway <Petengy> simira: I'll try then ;) ... now I have to go (to try) so have a nice day and TnX again <Petengy> bye <simira> have a nice day :) <simira> bye #ubuntu-laptop 2008-01-31 <ubuntunut> Hey guys. Is there a list of what processes CAN be disabled under a default Ubuntu install? I'm running from a laptop and hoping to cut down on power consumption <la_loOse> ok maybe it's not the right place, but i'm happy to say that my new panasonic r7 runs under ubuntu and the install process using netboot was ok too #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-01 <LeeAdamo> hallo everybody <LeeAdamo> I'm first-time-user <LeeAdamo> So sorry if I mady something wrong <LeeAdamo> mady=make <NintendoGuy0> Hey, guys <NintendoGuy0> Whats the deal with thinkpads? <NintendoGuy0> Are they good for gaming or do they have a specific purpose? <NintendoGuy0> So yeah, guys? <NintendoGuy0> What are thinkpads like? <Shadeslayer> hey i have a problem with my laptops function hot keys(XPS M1530,Kubuntu 8.10) i was wondering if a patch would be released with Jaunty and/or for Ibex #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-05 <viniciustsantos> hi! <viniciustsantos> speaking only in english? <ym1> Hello <ym1> Happy new year !! <ym1> As a new year present I would like to make myself a present <ym1> guess what ? <ym1> a laptop that just work with ubuntu <ym1> when I say works I mean 100% <ym1> suspend/resume included :-) <ym1> There is several contenders on my list : system 76 (gazelle or pengolin), lenovo (T500) and dell (xps) <ym1> I would like to know first if I am missing an excellent laptop ? <ym1> If not what are your opinion about them ? <crimsun> you're likely to get better recommendations on the forum, in #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1, or on a mailing list <ym1> crimsun: Thank you <ym1> I am going to try it out now #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-06 <ChrisDavaz> hey <ChrisDavaz> I am running Ubuntu 8.10 on a Thinkpad T500, it has an ATI card, can I do Twinview? <merverferker> hola #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-08 <juliano> hi #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-09 <un_dave> hey, just wondering if anyone knows if you can wake up a suspend after a pre-set duration ? <etu> Hi there! #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-10 <nerux> hi <nerux> where I can send a new laptop <tritium> nerux: what do you mean? #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-11 <nrpil> hi people <nrpil> i have a dell latitude d810 and the fan(s) are running all the time on full speed. how does fan control work with ubuntu ? <axisys> as funny as it sounds, my cat sat on my keyboard and now my wireless is disabled.. i cannot enable it .. it grayed out and i cannot click it to enable <axisys> the check box with Enable Wireless is disabled <axisys> grayed out <litong> halooo <litong> System sounds not working in ubuntu 8.10, I have pulsleaudoi, alsa I tried many configuration, nothing working, tried in new user, nothing helped on google, other sounds, video, youtube, skpye, waw, mp3 in media....... are ok , just when I login when log out is without sound PLEASE HELP #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-12 <Hunter> Good day <Hunter> does anyone know where i can get help with my laptop? <Hunter> how can I get to that #ubuntu thing? <Hunter> for help, im not very skilled with computer <Hunter> s <Hunter> hello? #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-13 <warion> hello <warion> vartasha <vartasha> hello <vartasha> can u help me please <vartasha> hello??? <vartasha> hello <vartasha> help me please <vartasha> please #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-17 <cweigle> Hello #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-18 <pwnguin> when did acpid become a kernel thread? <schmiedc> hi <schmiedc> have some trouble with my wlancard of my laptop <schmiedc> iwconfig lists it but the networkmanager doesn't recognize it ... any ideas? #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-19 <seraphin_> not for support you say? <seraphin_> i have a problem with ubuntu sound shortcuts and Fn keys on my laptop. the keys are recognised as XF86AudioLowerVolume and simillar and simillar, the icon is appearing on the desktop, but the sound is not getting louder/quiet/muted. alsa 1.0.18, snd-hda-intel. anyone can know here or should i ask on #ubuntu ? <dtchen> definitely not this channel. which release? jaunty? <dtchen> (if so, #ubuntu+1) <dtchen> (or #ubuntu-audio-help) <seraphin_> 8.10 <seraphin_> ill try #ubuntu-audio-help #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-21 <thinkpaduser> does anyone know what CPU kernel option i should use for an Intel Core 2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz? #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-23 <greg_stevens> hello <greg_stevens> I'm having a really hard time finding a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled, or even one with no amy08@example.org. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would really prefer not to pay for windows. <AION89> Hi all! Anyone here would like to help me and/or collect information about Ubuntu (8.04, 8.10, 9.04) problems with Lenovo S10e Ideapad <AION89> I could provide U all the information I can and give all the details about the problems. <AION89> I would have reported it to launchpad but I'm not sure what is really causing these problems, but seems to me that there is massive communication problems with power-management and Ubuntu <AION89> Anyone want to get involved and get some good data for development? (I can do basic things like install DHCP, DNS, LTSP, SMB, NFS servers with Ubuntu, but these laptop things go over my head) <mzakharo> hello there #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-25 <Darksmurf> blueman is awsome #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-26 <devin_> can someone here help me? <DevinM> can someone help me with my wifi card? <dtchen> in 8.10? i think you want #ubuntu <DevinM> okay, thanks #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-27 <F4tal> Hello guys <F4tal> somebody listening #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-28 <devin> can someone help me with a rogers mobile internet stick? <devin> can someone help me with a broadcom wireless card? <devin> is there anyone here? <un_dave> hi all <un_dave> i have a question about ubuntu on a laptop <un_dave> with my windows xp (work) laptop, i can make it sleep for 30 minutes, and then if it's still idle, it'll wake up and then hybernate itself <un_dave> *hibernate <un_dave> this is really useful, as it means that it'll never waste too much battery when i put it to sleep. <un_dave> i can't work out how to enable a similar feature on my ubuntu laptop. it's really frustrating me. #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-29 <Artremis> does anyone know why evolution mail craps itself whenever i try 2 accsee the calendar function? <b52wrangler> good evening, anyone here who can offer help with a problem encountered during an ibex install on a toshiba satellite #ubuntu-laptop 2009-01-30 <beeradb_> anyone have recommendations as to what the better laptops to buy would currently be if I'm planning on running ubuntu? <beeradb_> the vaio i'm currently running doesn't do so hot :) #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-01 <eater9> Hi - I want my laptop to execute pm-suspend-hybrid when I shut the lid. Is there an easy way to make that happen, preferably via gnome-power-manager? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-05 <heret1c> hello :-) <heret1c> may networking issues be raised/solved here? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-08 <Ash1> how do i disable the single usb in 9.04 <Ash1> version <Ash1> any one please help me #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-09 <Pavel_S> hi <Pavel_S> I have few questions. <Pavel_S> Can somebody help me. <Pavel_S> ? <Daker> salut <Daker> :) #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-11 <rkielty> Hi anyone here involved in testing? <Sparky57> hi #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-12 <cj> hibernate is busted for me <cj> any suggestons on how to fix it? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-13 <delfick> hi, does anyone know how to fix function keys on a samsung x460 ?? <delfick> I've tried layout options in keyboard preferences, tried googling..... running out of ideas.... #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-21 <canaznguitar> anyone here? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-24 <johnny1243> did anyone here of any problems for the dell studio 15 line with ubuntu <rusibla_> hi, does anyone have a cached version of the poulsbo_ppa.sh script, because the download server gma500re.altervista.org is ofline due to traffic <macman_> anyone alive ? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-26 <rgnr> hello all <rgnr> any laptop freaks here? #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-30 <kyppcgeekChef> hello? <Sodlig> Hello <Sodlig> I run Ubuntu on a dual boot togheter with my WinXP. So I tried installing an Intel g card driver. Somehow it got messed up and after my shut off, it's unable to boot properly. It gets passed the Ubuntu logo and so on, but then everything goes black, unable to do anything not even press ctrl + alt + f2. So I bet something got messed up in the xorg.file, therefor Im asking, is it any way to fix it? Like, getting back to the def <cgf_> Is there somebody from Brazil? Or somebody using a notebook LG R580-3001 with Ubuntu 9.10? <cgf_> woops <cgf_> guest here. <cgf_> will be back soon <cgf_> came back <cgf_> I am looking for people using laptop LG. #ubuntu-laptop 2010-01-31 <borix> hmm, not many users online <borix> just a question for the interested: I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite A series laptop running on WinXP <borix> I intend to install Ubuntu 9.10. Are there any known issues? <borix> if not or not yet, how can be of help in testing Ubuntu 9.10 in my Toshiba laptop? #ubuntu-laptop 2011-01-08 <ldz420> Hi I have a question about which ubuntu distro to install on a laptop would this be the right room or is there one that could better assist? #ubuntu-laptop 2011-01-22 <Aaron___> hello #ubuntu-laptop 2011-01-26 <biiter> hello. what is the difference between ubuntu for dekstop and ubuntu for laptops? (except the gui environment) #ubuntu-laptop 2012-01-05 <just> Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ Ð²ÑÐµÐ¼, Ð·Ð´ÐµÑÑ ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð¾Ð²Ð¾ÑÑÑÐ¸Ðµ ÐµÑÑÑ? #ubuntu-laptop 2012-01-08 <zpmorgan> will the ASPM fix be released for 11.10? #ubuntu-laptop 2012-01-19 <zpmorgan> ts2, Do you know anything about the ASPM overheating regression?? <ts2> zpmorgan: best to ask in #ubuntu this channel is no longer active <zpmorgan> okay thanks; I asked #ubuntu-kernel <zpmorgan> hi AlanBell <AlanBell> hi <zpmorgan> Do you know anything about the ASPM overheating regression? <zpmorgan> my laptop keeps overheatingl dunno what to do <AlanBell> in precise? <zpmorgan> I don't even know if that bug still exists in the latest oneiric kernel <AlanBell> I would suggest cleaning the fans and vents and upgrade to precise as soon as you dare <AlanBell> it isn't very scary at the moment to be honest <zpmorgan> Do you know if it will eventually be fixed in Oneiric? <AlanBell> no idea <AlanBell> there is a kernel boot parameter you can set to turn it on <zpmorgan> I tried that <zpmorgan> pcie_aspm=force or something <AlanBell> yeah, that <zpmorgan> And it still overheats with just one core doing something productive <AlanBell> and there are a heap of other tweaks mostly fixed in precise <zpmorgan> What's the state of precise? How likely is it to basically break unbootably? <zpmorgan> (in your experience) <AlanBell> more to the point what would your reaction be if it did? <zpmorgan> boot off a usb key and google it <AlanBell> if you were to boot up to a black screen and think "hmm, thats interesting" then go for it <zpmorgan> okay :) <AlanBell> there is support in #ubuntu+1 <zpmorgan> I don't think I've installed an ubuntu+1 since 2006 <AlanBell> ts2: I am going to have to grab nalioth or someone to forward this channel, I will do it tomorrow or sometime <AlanBell> zpmorgan: this is a relatively stable cycle, they are not doing any scary changes really <zpmorgan> cool! thanks for the advice <AlanBell> and there is a lot more testing going on before stuff gets released <zpmorgan> AlanBell, ts2, for whatever you've done for ubuntu, thank you! #ubuntu-laptop 2012-01-20 <zpmorgan> AlanBell, :) Problem solved, I think <zpmorgan> I build a new perl without overheating #ubuntu-laptop 2013-01-04 <xkernel> When Ubuntu will care about laptop batteries consumption? #ubuntu-laptop 2013-01-24 <siluetas> hey, I've got a question: I'm looking to buy a laptop with the intention to run ubuntu on it and do some light gaming, whether through wine, steam or a win partition. However, I've run into trouble with hybrid graphics in the past and I really want to avoid it this time. <siluetas> The one way I can think of doing that is to get a laptop that only has a dedicated graphics card, not a set of two GPUs. Can someone give me advice in this regard? #ubuntu-laptop 2015-01-12 <cody__> anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m #ubuntu-laptop 2016-01-28 <Old_nick> the cfg80211 module can pass as parameter stricter ? <Old_nick> options ieee80211_channel_to_frequency 6 #ubuntu-laptop 2018-01-08 <Zahovay> Hello, anyone active here? <Hirppa> hi <Hirppa> this seems to be abandoned channel, nothing happening in here <Zahovay> Well I would like to join the ubuntu developer team especially aiming to have power management implemented. Exactly for laptops. Gonna be really hard work but then the laptop section could awake <Hirppa> perhaps you should join #ubuntu-devel channel for that <Zahovay> I have joined a few channels but this should become my main channel later on <Hirppa> oh, I see :) <Hirppa> it would be awesome to get better power management for laptops! <Zahovay> I am really passionate about ubuntu for laptop I hope I can bring changes. Lots of my friends want to use ubuntu on laptop but the lack of power management made them change back to windows..... <Hirppa> yeah, that has been one of the biggest problems with Linux laptops always <Zahovay> Well I am learning programming at University attending IOT labor at my freetime, I've learned a lot about performance and power management. I will try all I can <Hirppa> it's quite difficult problem to fix, though. For example the open source driver 'nv' for nvidia gpu's is consumes quite a lot of power, and no one has been able to fix that so far <Hirppa> the problem with that one is lack of hardware documentation <Zahovay> Well, first of all I have to catch up where the development is at. As far as I know a basic power management is also missing which could improve a lot not even considering the hardware. <Hirppa> then there's the headache of buggy kernel modules behaving badly during wake-up from hibernation, although those problems luckily are not so severe anymore as they were a decade ago <Hirppa> so a lot of very different kind of issues with laptops <Hirppa> what do you mean by "basic power management"? <Zahovay> Would you help me getting involved with the first steps of becoming an ubuntu developer? <Hirppa> hmm... I think folks at #ubuntu-devel channel are better to help you with that, as they are Ubuntu developers, I am not <Zahovay> I mean by "basic power management" that as far as I know it was designed to be desktop OS which means a lot of unused modul working in the background not even optimizing for battery. <Hirppa> oh, yes <Hirppa> that's true <Hirppa> Google encountered that problem also when they began development of Android, and they ended up making quite big architectural changes to the whole system <Zahovay> may I ask without any offense what do you do here? are you involved with other parts of contributing? do you actually program? you seem to know quite a lot.. <Hirppa> perhaps system administrator would best describe my skills with Ubuntu -- and yes, I'm not a software developer, I have just been interested in the overall architecture of systems, so my knowledge does not go into that deep into detail as a developer's knowledge would go <Hirppa> I'm not affiliated with the Ubuntu project in any way, just a user of Ubuntu <Hirppa> but anyway... one of the big changes that Google made to the Linux kernel running in Android systems is that processes do not run all the time, as is case with Ubuntu -- instead the kernel runs only a few processes at a time, and the rest of the processes are hibernated <Zahovay> Oh I see, well I do not really have architecture knowledge of systems yet that comes the next semester but I am really curious <Hirppa> :) <Hirppa> that will be interesting stuff <Zahovay> I know I cant wait for it <Hirppa> I used to study computer science at university a few years ago, although I haven't graduated <Hirppa> defenetely interesting stuff :) <Zahovay> well it is really hard to get graduated.. I cannot accept any jobs because I know I would leave the University.. I can learn so much more from real world projects.. I gather all the basics from the NET <Hirppa> hehe, yeah, that's quite common to drop out of uni after getting a job <Hirppa> but on the other hand having some kind of job already during studies is also a good thing, one get's to apply all the learned things in real projects and lean more by doing so <Zahovay> I agree, although my attitude cant allow me to do so. I can only join these kind of projects which does not pay so that I finish my studies <Hirppa> :) <Zahovay> at my country this is already a thing that hardly anyone does so I will actually find job more easily <Hirppa> open source contributions are a very good attachment to your CV <Zahovay> Though I only want to make ubuntu be a little bit better so I can drop windows. (I have had enough of it) <Zahovay> But yet, I enjoy the 10 hours of this weak laptop <Hirppa> I think in the long run Windows really does not have a future <Hirppa> Ubuntu is getting better and better year by year, so there must come a point at which it really becomes the preferred option for most users <Zahovay> Well, I hope so. The lack of designers, the attitude. I actually have not seen any improvement just updates.. updates that did actually nothing but annoyed me. <Zahovay> I have also seen posts about linux taking over even the gaming section.. that would be a kick to windows.. once developers start using cross platform librarys like vulkan, microsoft has to aim a new market <Hirppa> one problem that Linux distributions have had during the last 15 years has been the architecturally outdated X11 windowing system, that is running the graphical desktop. Now that it is in progress to be replaced by a modern implementation, Wayland, things really look bright <Zahovay> well I read about this but I know nothing about this topic yet :/ <Zahovay> but seems promising <Hirppa> by "architecturally outdated" I mean the fact that the X Window System was invented in 1984, and has only seen incremental updates during the years, but the basic architecture is still from the 80's <Hirppa> Wayland drops all that historical burden <Zahovay> This sounds pretty good <Hirppa> Apple Computer abandoned X11 around the year 1999 because it was outdated already then, and they implemented their own replacement for Mac OS X systems; that is one of the reasons why Macs have been so popular compared to Linux <Zahovay> Well I know most developers cant agree with me but I like Mac OS X and ios too, however I would never develop for that platform.. I really think they do well the programming part.. Maybe I just know only a few mistakes they do <Zahovay> for example I wish I knew why OS X can work for so long from battery.. I know they also have a hardware implementation to make power efficiency even better but I think their software knows something I do not <Hirppa> macOS is a very polished system that works quite well out of the box -- actually I'm writing this on a Mac :) <Zahovay> Once I will have one too <Zahovay> though if
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