#ubuntu-learning 2009-07-01 <DjTed> Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ Ð½Ð°ÑÐ¾Ð´ <hans1234321> test <bodhi_zazen> wb cprofitt <cprofitt> hello <bodhi_zazen> come to join the chirping crickets I see <cprofitt> yes <cprofitt> I have my magnifying glass and some science experiments I want to perform #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-02 * dthacker wanders in #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-03 <doctormo> pleia2, greg-g, Vantrax, cprofitt: if you guys see people comming here and asking support questions, should we be not just redirecting them to #ubuntu but also asking how they came to this channel so we can fix misdirection? <cprofitt> we can... <cprofitt> I actually direct them to beginners-help <cprofitt> #ubuntu is next to useless for help as it is too over-crowded <nhandler> cprofitt: If you feel that way, you might be interested in replying to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799 <cprofitt> nice <cprofitt> though I do not feel I have an 'answer' so... not sure I want to comment at this point <nhandler> No problem cprofitt. I just thought I would point out that other people feel the same way, and that they are currently searching for a solution <doctormo> nhandler: Yes, no need to me-too-storm the ubuntu-community bug report on support-floods ;-P <nhandler> doctormo: No, but you can use the 'Affects me too' feature ;) <cprofitt> either of you guys sys admins? <nhandler> cprofitt: No <cprofitt> k <doctormo> I used to be a junior sys-admin, but he's left <doctormo> I feel like the jack of all trades, even programming <doctormo> Master of none <bodhizazen> lol <bodhizazen> the rabbit hole is deep doctormo <Severity1> doctormo, i feel the same <Severity1> you feel all bloated and jumbled inside <Severity1> thats how i feel <doctormo> Severity1: No I feel like I've awesome at everything, even modesty <doctormo> bodhizazen: Well, I don't seem to be able to produce anything of worth programming, but I can produce lots of tat. <Severity1> doctormo, thats it but somehow you feel something is wrong <Severity1> well maybe our situation is different <doctormo> Severity1: No, I feel like things are right, the right thing is sleep and learn until it's time, but I want to do and that's the wrong thing ;-) <Severity1> im too curious about many things that i end up learning everything that interests me then be good at it but i feel im going on meltdown with all those informations i know i cant keep forever <doctormo> Severity1: You need a weild a good axe, meditation. I have program sort and axe I run which cleans dead stuff. Sometimes indexing helps. <bodhizazen> doctormo, what are you trying to do ? <Severity1> lol that would be helpful <Severity1> :) <doctormo> bodhizazen: Get rid of memories of "When Harry met Sally" and replace them with "The dynamics of the crowd" <bodhizazen> sounds like a relationship problem <bodhizazen> Ask a woman what to do , women are good at those kinds of things <doctormo> bodhizazen: I grew up with 5 of them, women are easy <doctormo> If only this was Creative Commons: http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1015-basics-of-ldap <majukarma> hello <majukarma> ? <bodhi_zazen> FYI I am on Vacation from now -> July 13th or more likely 14th <bodhi_zazen> I may have intermittent (at best) internet access. <cprofitt> alright <cprofitt> I go the 19th -> > <cprofitt> for a week... and will have none #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-06 <linux> anyone know how to start aurora-gtk-engine-1.5-tar.gz <marissa> hello? <marissa> do you no how to play games useing yahoo? <marissa> or just games im haveing trouble playing online games <ziroday> marissa: #ubuntu is the best place to ask, not here :) <cprofitt> pleia2, - next meeting? <pleia2> cprofitt: hm, tomorrow evening at 8 EDT? * pleia2 is recovering from redeye flight across the country * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Monday July 7th @ 8pm EDT (00:00 UTC July 7th) | Support in #ubuntu <ziroday> in here, or #ubuntu-meeting? <pleia2> oh right * pleia2 checks calendar * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Monday July 7th @ 8pm EDT (00:00 UTC July 8th) | Support in #ubuntu <pleia2> that's fine <pleia2> #ubuntu-meeting * ziroday sets an alarm <pleia2> k, all set <cprofitt> thanks pleia2 <Vantrax|Work> so i have another theme test to do today, hopefully this one will work #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-07 <cprofitt> sorry I am late to the meeting... <cprofitt> oh... wait.. it is in 3o minutes <cprofitt> phew! <cprofitt> man... my daughter read the clock wrong... she told me 8:30 <cprofitt> pleia2, there is nothing on the agenda for tonight... <cprofitt> pleia2, doctormo <doctormo> cprofitt: hello <cprofitt> #ubuntu-meeting <cprofitt> pleia2, doctormo greg-g popey Vantrax Vantrax|Work -meeting in #ubuntu-meeting <doctormo> cprofitt: right now? <cprofitt> crap... wrong day... <doctormo> It is Monday <cprofitt> I thought it was today -- since it said Monday on our meeting announcement <doctormo> today, and there normally is a meeting <cprofitt> but the date says the 7th <cprofitt> I dunno... <cprofitt> thought it was today <doctormo> Then it's today, what time was it? <cprofitt> right now <doctormo> Ah, lucky for me then eh <doctormo> pleia2 was managing the schedual though <greg-g> cprofitt: I'm in there, idling, highlight me if you need me <cprofitt> k <cprofitt> Vantrax|Work, doctormo do we need to have this discussion in #ubuntu-meeting or should we move it in here... <cprofitt> I have no opinion on the matter... <cprofitt> but thought I should ask <pleia2> the meeting is tomorrow... <doctormo> pleia2: that explains it <doctormo> Why Tuesday btw? <pleia2> doctormo: this is too short notice + we need to mix up days a bit <doctormo> aye <cprofitt> pleia2, the topic has both days... Monday and 7th <cprofitt> so I was confused <pleia2> anyway, I'm not available right now <doctormo> pleia2: No problem, tomorrow it is <cprofitt> we have no topics... <cprofitt> should we just schedule for next week? <cprofitt> that way everyone has more time <cprofitt> Next Meeting: Monday July 7th @ 8pm EDT <cprofitt> that made it confusing... <pleia2> sorry, it was correct on the calendar, wiki and the dates were right <pleia2> just missed that part of the topic <cprofitt> no problem... <pleia2> 12:26:59 < cprofitt> pleia2, - next meeting? <pleia2> 12:28:06 < pleia2> cprofitt: hm, tomorrow evening at 8 EDT? <cprofitt> despite that we have no agenda for tomorrow <pleia2> so I thought we were on the same page :) <cprofitt> I thought so as well... until I read the topic <pleia2> yeah, I figured we would fill in the Agenda like last time <cprofitt> I agree about things being short notice... <cprofitt> and can meet this week or next week... its all sixes for me <pleia2> if no one has anything to talk about we don't have to have one, but our agenda wasn't filled in until last minute last meeting either <pleia2> so I wasn't sure if people were just holding up again <cprofitt> well... we can 'call' it tomorrow if there are no topics... so no big deal <pleia2> k * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Tuesday July 7th @ 8pm EDT (00:00 UTC July 8th) | Support in #ubuntu <doctormo> pleia2, cprofitt: I think we're reaching the point where we don't need as much organising, but we do need more "getting on with it" working <doctormo> Maybe we're at a bottlenec <pleia2> doctormo: me too, but I was told we "have to wait on licensing" <cprofitt> doctormo, we still need to solve the licensing <cprofitt> and the server hosting <cprofitt> until those two are nailed down I do not think we can 'move' forward <cprofitt> as painful as that fact is... <cprofitt> it would just not make sense to move forward without that resolved <pleia2> cprofitt: do you know where mootbot minutes are posted? <cprofitt> pleia2, not off the top of my head <cprofitt> to be honest each time I look for them I never find them despite going to where it tells me <pleia2> me too <pleia2> I thought there was a secret I was missing :) <cprofitt> I am a month out from a rather major local event too... so I am going to be a bit distracted with that <cprofitt> trying to get demo units in from System76 and arrange a college professor to come and speak <cprofitt> I am pissed off that my local school does not have a computer programming course anymore... <cprofitt> and that is next on my agenda... <cprofitt> sorry for rambling on about that... <pleia2> cool about the demo (not cool about lack of programming course, what's up with that?) <cprofitt> I just think it is a sad state of affairs that the people that made fun of us "geeks" while we were in schools give lip service to saying that computer are important in education, but because they have no clue how to actually use them they shy away from doing anything much beyond replacing the typewriter with them <cprofitt> well the college board (AP) only accepts java <cprofitt> so the school taught only java -- bad intro to comp sci language in my opinion <Vantrax|Work> for the theme atm im focusing on getting it looking right, then the links right, then the menus showing right <pleia2> wow <cprofitt> so they killed the course... <cprofitt> that and the teachers teaching it really could only do what was in the book... <cprofitt> so the course was boring as heck for the kids who really wanted to program <pleia2> yeesh <cprofitt> I work there... so I can not rock the boat too badly * pleia2 nods <doctormo> cprofitt: I've been at jobs where my main function of boat rocker, you kind of have to sometimes. <cprofitt> doctormo, in a school district where I have no 'union' protection and the teachers do... <cprofitt> I am just a glorified digital janitor to them <pleia2> hehe "digital janitor" <cprofitt> I actually had a teacher assume I had no bachelors degree <cprofitt> funny thing was that she went to the same school I did for her undergrad <Vantrax|Work> weeee <Vantrax|Work> http://learn.bodhizazen.net/moodle/ <Vantrax|Work> looks right now somehow <Vantrax|Work> not sure, but it lays things out correctly <Vantrax|Work> take a peak and tell me if im crazy <pleia2> neat <Vantrax|Work> thats more what im after <Vantrax|Work> we like? <pleia2> basic layout looks good <Vantrax|Work> ignore all the links and menu options <Vantrax|Work> all of that will go <Vantrax|Work> unless we want our own forums, youtube channel, photo gallery etc <doctormo> nice :-) <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: It's possible, although we'd go with soe other video channel like blip.tv * Vantrax|Work is just happy i can finally show something to prove im not just lazy <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: sure:P more the point i guess <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: What license is moodle? <doctormo> and/or this theme we're using as a basis <Vantrax|Work> cc-by-sa or gpl <doctormo> GPLv2? <Vantrax|Work> all the ramirezanna@example.org are required to have a free liencence <Vantrax|Work> there was no licence information included with the theme <Vantrax|Work> so no idea <doctormo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-learning-moodle <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: OK your the driver *whip*tish* <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: And the board is the maintainer <Vantrax|Work> so what do i do now? <Vantrax|Work> register a branch? <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: No, I'll upload a branch of what you have <doctormo> And then show you how to handle it <Vantrax|Work> okies <Vantrax|Work> you have access to the files on ubuntu one right? <doctormo> I've just been dealing with some python-crontab work, sorry for the delay <Vantrax|Work> oh hold on <Vantrax|Work> its updating now <Vantrax|Work> wasnt synced <Vantrax|Work> ive made a couple of changes <doctormo> You can commit those changes in as practice, it'll be fun :-) <Vantrax|Work> err <doctormo> lp:~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk <Vantrax|Work> the changest are almost the whole thing:P <doctormo> Okay, then we'll learn how to deal with "almost entire thing" changes :-D <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: get your command terminal into a useful projects directory and use `bzr pull lp:~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk` to grab the version there <Vantrax|Work> just installing bzr <Vantrax|Work> bzr pull lp:~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk <Vantrax|Work> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/s2092272/Projects/learn_ubuntu/". <Vantrax|Work> need to head out for a few min <doctormo> oh, <doctormo> bzr checkout lp:~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk <doctormo> pull is for when you already have it checked out, sorry <Vantrax|Work> still says the same after doing the checkout first <doctormo> checkout gets you the files <doctormo> then you cd into the directory Vantrax|Work <Vantrax|Work> ooohh <Vantrax|Work> lol that trunk is completely the wrong folder:P <Cajunmg> Can you run a windows based progam on ubuntu? <Cajunmg> anybody? <damien_> Any info on Ubuntu 199 training of any kind <pleia2> damien_: #ubuntu-training is the channel for canonical training like the 199 course <pleia2> we're community stuff, no certs <damien_> oh <damien_> thanks #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-08 <cprofitt> pleia2, what is the plan for tonight? <pleia2> I am not sure we have one :) <cprofitt> ok <cprofitt> pleia2, do I start the meeting or not? <cprofitt> Vantrax, Vantrax|Work doctormo pleia2 do we want to cancel the meeting? <pleia2> yeah, I think so :\ <pleia2> cancel I mean <cprofitt> k <cprofitt> pleia2, can you plan the one for next week? <cprofitt> as far as wiki and fridge, etc. <Vantrax|Work> i vote yes <Vantrax|Work> to cancel * cprofitt noted Vantrax <Vantrax|Work> we need to work out what linkages we want on the website * cprofitt noted Vantrax|Work <Vantrax|Work> so i can do menus etc <cprofitt> Vantrax|Work, we need to get the legal and hosting issue settled too <cprofitt> I know we will want links to the following <cprofitt> https://help.ubuntu.com/ <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com <pleia2> yep, I'll plan for a meeting next week <cprofitt> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100 <cprofitt> an obligatory link to Canonical, Ubuntu.com and Moodle.com <cprofitt> thanks pleia2 <doctormo> cprofitt: Aye ok <cprofitt> thanks doctormo <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: How did updating bzr go? We should work on that make sure your set up right <Vantrax|Work> ill get to it:P <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: :-D don't worry, I have a volunteer work load that would make other people fall over dead. <doctormo> cprofitt, pleia2, Vantrax|Work: Starting Wednesday 15th July the Ubuntu Massachusetts LoCo will be offering Systems Administration and Programming Lessons in the South End Tech Center in Boston <doctormo> http://www.ubuntu-massachusetts.com/events/4/ <pleia2> doctormo: awesome :) <cprofitt> doctormo, nice!! <cprofitt> NY will be going for approval... but I will not be able to attend the meeting... <pleia2> eek <cprofitt> so I am hoping that ausimage remembers -- he had me schedule it despite my being out of town <doctormo> cprofitt: when is the meeting? <cprofitt> the 20th <Severity2> yep <doctormo> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/ubuntu-loco-systems-admin-lessons-in-massachusetts/ <doctormo> cprofitt, Vantrax|Work, pleia2: do you like my updated systems-admin icon? <pleia2> the one in that link? very much <Vantrax|Work> nice:P <Vantrax|Work> fits the theme well <Vantrax|Work> everything is starting to come together <Vantrax|Work> we need to sort the licensing stuff out soon tho, anyone heard from dinda on the FSF? <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Not I <cprofitt> doctormo, looks good <cprofitt> Vantrax|Work, nothing from FSF or dinda <doctormo> At some point we're going to have to go out on our own <doctormo> To reach out the SFLC or to make a call <doctormo> (btw it's the Software Freedom Law Center, not the FSF) <cprofitt> k <doctormo> cprofitt, pleia2, greg-g, Vantrax|Work: Is it worth contacting the SFLC given that I already have a contact there? <pleia2> doctormo: waiting for the canonical contact, you mean? <Vantrax|Work> I would say it is worth doing, but thats up to the board imo <cprofitt> doctormo, if we have a way of contacting them... I would say yes <pleia2> and dinda said the canonical law person went on vacation last week <cprofitt> we also need to determine where the site will eventually be hosted <cprofitt> Canonical or Bodhi-Server <cprofitt> there are pros and cons to both of the hosting scenarios <doctormo> Yes, I think we should stick with our own <doctormo> We should have a way of funding the server so bodi isn't stuck with the costs <Vantrax|Work> depends what canonical will come to the party is <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: thats already done <doctormo> And we should have a backup domain to use until we can get the learn.ubuntu.com <Vantrax|Work> we already have one, but can get another <doctormo> I'm just not sure we should be leaning on or using Canonical resources when there is so much unsure and it's not a set of resourced they typically offer that we need. <doctormo> I think we'd just be fighting them on it <Vantrax|Work> depends what they come to the table with <Vantrax|Work> im willing to work with them to see what can be done as long as they are flexible <greg-g> doctormo: for what? <doctormo> greg-g: We're still mulling the licensing issues. <greg-g> doctormo: why? <doctormo> greg-g: We want to ask the SFLC for advice. <doctormo> greg-g: Don't ask me, I say it's settled, others aren't sure enough <greg-g> well, my advice is not waste your time, worry about actually creating content intead, but that is just me <cprofitt> greg-g, the issue is we can not, in fairness, have people create content if the terms of that 'product' are not specific <cprofitt> if we are going to ask people to turn over their 'ownership' as has been suggested... we need to let them know that... ahead of time so that they do not feel ambushed <greg-g> "all of the work you submit is licensed under CC:BY-SA, thanks" done :) <cprofitt> I agree greg-g <cprofitt> doctormo, agrees <cprofitt> I am not sure about Vantrax|Work and bodhi though <Vantrax|Work> i agree with that * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Tuesday July 14th @ 9pm EDT (01:00 UTC July 15th) | Support in #ubuntu <doctormo> cprofitt: Transfere of ownership is off the cards, it's a bad idea and we've heard it's a bad idea from multiple sources <Vantrax|Work> but there were some good points raised worth checking out tho <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Do you have a list of good points? <Vantrax|Work> no atm, it was in the log ..< <Vantrax|Work> i just remember i didnt have any objection to the queries being checked out <greg-g> I would use other successful projects as a guide, ie: Wikipedia <Vantrax|Work> yep <cprofitt> well the main issue, was that until bodhi was comfortable from his legal liability standpoint that if ownership was not transferred he was not going to host <Vantrax|Work> which is understandable, while moot if canonical hosts <greg-g> cprofitt: I tried to explain to him that copyright transfer wouldn't really gain him any protection <cprofitt> greg-g, as did I... <doctormo> cprofitt: Which means we will have to find a new hoster <greg-g> and if anything, would create unwanted hurdles (transfer the copyright to whom? Bodhi? some new entity which needs to be legally created, etc etc, yuck) <cprofitt> but I am not sure if he is comfortable yet <doctormo> cprofitt: Agreed, but this is a bodi problem, not nec' an ubuntu-learning project problem <cprofitt> doctormo, correct... unless bodhi is satisfied with the non-transfer and the avoidance of NC <doctormo> We should at least be creation materials in the wiki <greg-g> so yeah, I should stay out of it :) <doctormo> greg-g: No your input is important, because you know your stuff <cprofitt> greg-g, your input is valuable <cprofitt> and appreciated <doctormo> I'm concerned that we've gone off on this wild goose chase to pander bodi's uncertainties simply because he wouldn't listen to the experience and knowlege of the people involved here. * greg-g nods <greg-g> well, in that case, since I apparently haven't been repeating myself too much (as to bore you) I will stick around ;) <doctormo> I feel like because he wanted NC and because of misunderstandings with liabilities we're stuck here twiddling our thumbs over none issues. <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: play nice:P We have a hosting option with Canonical to explore atm, the key issue is our access too it <doctormo> But that's completly my personal opinion and It's not politically sensitive. <Vantrax|Work> we also have made progress in our theming <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: I'd love to begin work on the theming, let me know when I can. <Vantrax|Work> so things arent sitting still <Vantrax|Work> i just have to update the trunk >.< <doctormo> yes <cprofitt> I think I would feel the same way as bodhi... nervous about liability <cprofitt> so despite my legal understanding differing from his; I have to respect his desire to keep his family safe from litigation issues <Vantrax|Work> okies so how do i push the change back up <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: You want `bzr commit` then `bzr push` <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: ^ <Vantrax|Work> what folder should I be in? <doctormo> The folder with the '.bzr' directory, the one that was created when you did 'bzr pull' <doctormo> er bzr checkout <pleia2> bodhi was also supposed to schedule talking to elmo (canonical sysadmin) - does anyone know if he's done that? <Vantrax|Work> /Projects/learn_ubuntu/trunk$ bzr commit <Vantrax|Work> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() <pleia2> if one of us could take that off his plate it would be nice, so not everything is waiting on him <Vantrax|Work> Ill sort out chatting to elmo <pleia2> Vantrax|Work: thanks <Vantrax|Work> our issue is we need access to it as moodle doesnt have webadmin for a fair bit of stuff:P <pleia2> so on the sites I admin on canonical servers, I have ssh access <Vantrax|Work> that should be fine, long as i can scp, ssh, and have access to change file permissions <pleia2> you'd have to work with them on specifics, for planet they have bzr configured, on the ubuntu-women.org core html files I have full access to edit because I'm in the u-w group <Vantrax|Work> that should be ok <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: if you still have my ubuntu one shared folder open its all in the theme folder <Vantrax|Work> i reformatted most of the code so it should be easy to follow <Vantrax|Work> where does elmo hide out? <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: sorry, damn old bzr code, I'm going to try and convince you to commit this right, since I believe it will be useful in the future <pleia2> Vantrax|Work: #canonical-sysadmin <pleia2> Vantrax|Work: I'm not sure about elmo, but most of them are around UTC time, so I've had good luck catching them in their morning <pleia2> er, their timezone I mean, most of them are in europe somewhere <Vantrax|Work> im in aus, im sure i can find em <Vantrax|Work> ill just lurk till he is around * pleia2 nods <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Found the problem :-D you need to set your launchpad id by running `bzr launchpad-login [username]` <Vantrax|Work> i had to do that to download it the first time, doesnt bzr remember it? <Vantrax|Work> same error <Vantrax|Work> Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() <Vantrax|Work> im guessing thats more the problem <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Are you sure running the launchpad-login command caused the http error? <Vantrax|Work> no, that didnt <Vantrax|Work> the login worked <Vantrax|Work> it was the rerunning commit <Vantrax|Work> ive used SVN systems before, this just seems painful <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: It's not, it's much easier than svn, it's just the 'windows xp is awesome' effect <Vantrax|Work> ... windows xp sucks <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Not if it's the only thing you've ever used and the new thing is somethign that works in a fundermentally different way <Vantrax|Work> true <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: the user you logged in with is the same user that your on the board with right? <Vantrax|Work> yep <Vantrax|Work> bzr launchpad-login matthew.lye <Vantrax|Work> goes through np <Vantrax|Work> same that I used to download the trunk <doctormo> `bzr push lp:ubuntu-learning-moodle` <doctormo> try that, it's the full thing <Vantrax|Work> hrm, i need to redo my keys I think... <Vantrax|Work> ok so no auth error now but the push command says: bzr push lp:ubuntu-learning-moodle <Vantrax|Work> No new revisions to push. <doctormo> did you do bzr commit first.. oh wait the bzr commit is the problem <doctormo> `bzr bind lp:ubuntu-learning-moodle` <doctormo> that should bind it correctly <doctormo> then run your commit, then the push as above. <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: ^^ <Vantrax|Work> aborting commit write group: BzrCommandError(empty commit message specified) <Vantrax|Work> ?? <Vantrax|Work> ok i think thats worked <Vantrax|Work> tell me if it did <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: it should bring up vim or nano for you to enter a commit message, you have to supply one <Vantrax|Work> it did, I did, should show up now <Vantrax|Work> it says Committed revision 2. <Vantrax|Work> yep its there <Vantrax|Work> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-moodle/trunk <Vantrax|Work> why is it showing me differently to you? <Vantrax|Work> doctormo: ^ <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: and now you pushed to rev2 right? <Vantrax|Work> its showing up <Vantrax|Work> i tried the push and it said: bzr push lp:ubuntu-learning-moodle <Vantrax|Work> No new revisions to push. <doctormo> Looks good <Vantrax|Work> it seems not to know who i am tho... <doctormo> Vantrax|Work: Possibly a config problem, I have the following in http://pastebin.com/m1998e95 in ~/.bazaar/ directory (3 files) <doctormo> which help <doctormo> off to bed, thanks for commiting :-) <Vantrax|Work> np <Vantrax|Work> glad we could get it working <nhandler> Vantrax|Work: Use: bzr whoami 'Matthew Lye <ramirezanna@example.org>' <Vantrax|Work> does that fix that nhandler? <Vantrax|Work> thanks for peaking in btw:P] <nhandler> Vantrax: That command should fix it. It should also cause it to link to your Launchpad profile. You can type 'bzr whoami' to see what is currently set. And you should know, I am always watching ;) #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-09 <doctormo> pleia2, cprofitt, greg-g: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/ubuntu-classes-poster/ <pleia2> doctormo: is there a fee for this? <pleia2> if so, should mention it :) <doctormo> pleia2: True, I took off the free tag from the previous design <doctormo> pleia2: Is organiser in american spelt with a z? <pleia2> yes <cprofitt> doctormo, nice poster <cprofitt> doctormo, did I show you my new desktop? <Severity1> doctormo, can peoplefrom remote location participate? <doctormo> Severity1: In this class no, it's a physical class, but I plan on processing one section at a time and I'll try and get introductions and course materials online if you want to keep up <doctormo> Oh by course introductions, I mean video <cprofitt> doctormo, tell me what you think -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7563229&postcount=224 <doctormo> cprofitt, pleia2: revision 2 btw <Severity1> ahhhh thanks! im sure many will be interested! ^^ <cprofitt> I do believe in Amerglish its with a Z <pleia2> doctormo: I think an additional attention-grabbing "Free!" tag would be useful, "Free" is too ambiguous a term in that context (could mean that there are training sessions on free-as-in-speech systems) <doctormo> pleia2: I'm trying to balance, I had an attention grabbing Free tag just a second ago, but advice from other community center teachers has made me rethink it since it'd attract people who are not interested in the course, they just know it's free. <pleia2> LUGs don't have that problem <pleia2> we put "Free!" on all our stuff <Severity1> or Libre <pleia2> (and people *still* ask) <pleia2> but I think it helps a little :) <ziroday> people do loove free stuff <pleia2> I have just never seen it be a problem in practice <doctormo> pleia2: I'm not sure what LUGs are like outside of Boston, but here the LUG is doing well if they message their own mailing list, let along others or posters. <pleia2> doctormo: the philadelphia lug has about 700 members, 3 meetings per month, we sometimes have events with posters :) <pleia2> we're big <pleia2> one of the largest and most active in the world <doctormo> pleia2: My LoCo tends to stay away from the BLU (Boston LUG) it's stuffy, technical, none advocacy, not really interested in fresh blood, but then it is old. <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, it helps that I run PLUG <pleia2> it's still quite technical, but I have pulled it in the direction of less stuffy, and more advocacy <pleia2> (mostly because that's more fun, for me) <cprofitt> doctormo, I would not make it free <cprofitt> doctormo, the advice I had from some organizers is charge $5 to reserve the seat and then refund the money when they show <cprofitt> that way you do not get people signing up and NOT attending <cprofitt> others also talk about 'value' - people devalue 'free' things <pleia2> yeah, I have heard that argument as well <doctormo> pleia2: you heard that from me! <doctormo> cprofitt: Yes I understand that <pleia2> doctormo: actually I think the first time was from emmajane :) <doctormo> :-P <doctormo> cprofitt: It's sometimes worth just pushing the money into refreshments :-D <pleia2> mmm refreshments <doctormo> cprofitt: That screen is bueatiful by the way <doctormo> http://divajutta.com/doctormo/sysadmin-poster.svg <Lns> doctormo: nice =) I still hate how the word 'daemons' has somehow transferred to 'services'..ugh. <Lns> see that everywhere now <doctormo> Lns: Services and Daemons are not the same thing, services can mean anything from disk space or ldap and doesn't really mean the running process. <Lns> doctormo: Gnome's "System -> Administration -> Services" app begs to differ <doctormo> Meh, close relationship <pwnguin> daemon is greek for life <pwnguin> daemons are processes that "live" without explicit users running or using them <doctormo> pwnguin: interesting #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-10 <doctormo> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/ubuntu-classes-poster/ <- revision 5 <Vantrax> nice <pleia2> Vantrax: thank you :) (/me catches up on -news-team) <bobishh> anybody read me ? <pleia2> hello <dinda> pleia2: you scared them away! ;) <pleia2> well, I am pretty scary :) <pleia2> it's the "2" <dinda> pleia2: did you see the notice for CC nominations? <dinda> was hoping elky might have time this go round <pleia2> dinda: yep <dinda> pleia2: what about yourself? <pleia2> dinda: a couple people were kind enough to nominate me :) <bobishh> hi there. i've got a small question - what should i do to make a daemon to load at startup in ubuntu ? *sorry for poor english <Vantrax> I think elky is a little tied up with linux aus #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-11 <tbox> so quiet! <TuxPurple> hi :) #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-12 <doctormo> Let me know when Vantrax will be back, I'll need his help #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-13 <doctormo_> Hey Vantrax <Vantrax> hi doctormo <doctormo> Vantrax: I've been busy writing my first class lesson plan and everything, so I haven't had time to work on the theme <Vantrax> thats ok <Vantrax> i plan to work on it this weekend <doctormo> Vantrax: you've got 6 hours of this weekend left on this time zone :-D <Vantrax> lol <doctormo> Vantrax: I just recorded the first video, it's horrid, I stammer all over it and I'm not very good at presentation yet. <Vantrax> lol <Vantrax> my suggestion is to read the script out loud at least two or three times <Vantrax> just leave the camera on and read not worrying about it <Vantrax> then you have the reading bit sorted and can act up for the camera:P <pleia2> cprofitt: feel free to put your students/teachers testimonial request on the ubuntu-us mailing list too :) <cprofitt> thanks pleia2 <doctormo> Vantrax: good advice, I'll have to try that next time <pleia2> yeah, that's what I do for lug presentations (and why a 1 hour presentation takes me about 6 hours to prepare, after writing) <doctormo> So far I've been fairly one shot, I figured doing it that way for the blogs would force me to get better, so I wasn't leaning so much on practice. <doctormo> But I guess we'll reshoot it tomorrow <doctormo> pleia2: Got a greenscreen and everything :-D <pleia2> :) <Vantrax> you will do fine doctormo <doctormo> pleia2, Vantrax, cprofitt: Actually it would be good if you guys could review by lesson plan and speaking texts <pleia2> sure <pleia2> I'm back from camping and don't have any major things planned for the next few weeks, hooray * pleia2 is very much looking forward to at-home time <doctormo> pleia2: was it good at camp? <pleia2> doctormo: it rained last night so we got a bit damp, but it was still lots of fun <doctormo> pleia2, Vantrax, cprofitt: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/learning/ see the 3 files begining with 'cli' <cprofitt> looks good... <Vantrax> ill take a look in a bit, rather busy atm with work <doctormo> Vantrax: no problems, no rush, doing a reshoot tomorrow and the class is on wednesday <cprofitt> pleia2, do you think anyone will respond to my thread? or the email? <doctormo> cprofitt: The one I just forwarded to my LoCo mailing list? <pleia2> cprofitt: more likely to the email, I know there are some folks who work with schools on that list <cprofitt> doctormo, probably. <cprofitt> awesome... thanks for suggesting that it was acceptable for me to do that on the list pleia2 <cprofitt> I never want to violate ethics on things like that <doctormo> ethics and politeness are two things, it's hard to break ethics on a mailing list without being delibrate in my view. <cprofitt> well... I mean more 'the rules of the list' <cprofitt> using the word 'ethics' was a bit strong <doctormo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8SVVHzsaCE <doctormo> Did anyone watch the video I posted last night? I'm interested in input <ILman> hello <doctormo> Hello ILman <ILman> well i am installing the OS <ILman> i had some problems <ILman> its my first linux OS <doctormo> ILman: OK, did you check out #ubuntu-signpost first to see which channel you should be in? <ILman> i want to learn <ILman> shell stuff <ILman> is it the place ? <ILman> and about the OS <pleia2> ILman: we're a project for developing course material for the Ubuntu community, for general support questions you want to check out #ubuntu :) <ILman> i got an error <ILman> on isntalling <doctormo> pleia2: Redirect to signpost, #ubuntu is too crowded * pleia2 has never heard of #ubuntu-signpost <pleia2> what is it? <sadik123> I have installed ubunut 9.04 in dell optiflex 360 desktop and tried to restart the pc...no use only i need to manually turn the power off and on...any soln...for this <doctormo> pleia2: It's where people who are in the wrong channel should be redirected in order to be routed to the correct and more efficient place on irc <doctormo> sadik123: please go to #ubuntu-signpost they will be able to redirect you to the correct room <sadik123> sorry ! <doctormo> sadik123: no problem, not everyone knows about signpost yet <sadik123> ok <bodhi_zazen> Vantrax: poke :) <bodhi_zazen> 'lo everyone, anything new in the last week or so ? <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: Not much, seen any of the course stuff I've been doing? <bodhi_zazen> no, trying to get caught up @ work <bodhi_zazen> I saw the demo theme on the test server though =) <doctormo> http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Systems-Administration-129153562 <doctormo> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/video-blog-entry-admin-introduction/ <doctormo> there you go bodhi_zazen <bodhi_zazen> LOL doctormo, nice <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: Any crit etc, pass it along, trying to make stuff better <bodhi_zazen> Vantrax: poke <Vantrax> yo <bodhi_zazen> I saw you theme <cprofitt> hey -- no agenda again tonight... <bodhi_zazen> looking good <bodhi_zazen> agenda for tonight ? <cprofitt> bodhi_zazen, have you spoken to any lawyers yet? <bodhi_zazen> birthday cake with Myah <bodhi_zazen> she is 2 today <bodhi_zazen> yes cprofitt , but not about the server , lol <cprofitt> the meeting tomorrow <cprofitt> we still do not have an agenda <cprofitt> so not about the liability of hosting and license terms? <bodhi_zazen> I have decided I will go with what you all feel is best <cprofitt> ... you sure? <bodhi_zazen> So long as it is open and free <cprofitt> so you would be ok with CC:BY-SA? <bodhi_zazen> I am easy ;) <bodhi_zazen> I am more interested in getting this project going then the license #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-14 <bodhi_zazen> doctormo: I took a look at your video, looked good <bodhi_zazen> I like your idea <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: At least it'll kick off content creation some more <MRBANX> hello helpers and fellow noobs (if any like me :o ) <MRBANX> anyone home? <MRBANX> looking for some Radeon 9000 low resolution mode problems <doctormo> pleia2, cproffit, Vantrax, greg-g, bodi-zazen: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/learning/command-line/ <- I now have pdfs of all the materials required to teach the command line basics class. Everything is draft obviously. #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-15 <pleia2> ok guys, meeting in 25, anyone have anything to add to the Agenda? <pleia2> 5 minutes until meeting, anyone here? :) <pleia2> anyone? <pleia2> cprofitt: you about? * bodhi_zazen listens to crickets chirping <cprofitt> pleia2, I am here <bodhi_zazen> you willing to chair ? <cprofitt> I am... we have no topics though <pleia2> Vantrax: how about you? <pleia2> we'll make some up <pleia2> 15:52:36 < doctormo> pleia2, cproffit, Vantrax, greg-g, bodi-zazen: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/learning/command-line/ <- I now have pdfs of all the materials required to teach the command line basics class. Everything is draft obviously. <pleia2> like that <pleia2> also, did we decide to move forward with doctormo's contacts with lawyer people? <pleia2> thanks everyone :) great meeting <Vantrax> he he he <Vantrax> sorry that im not around much atm, very busy at work till next week <pleia2> understandable <cprofitt> I am here <pleia2> :) <cprofitt> any out of the meeting things to discuss <bodhi_zazen> thanks cprofitt <cprofitt> no problem <cprofitt> just try to do what I can <doctormo> Arg, sorry for the team meeting missing in action last night, I was fore warned and everything and had intended to attend from the SETC, but things got distracting, I appologise. <doctormo> Sounds like you guys had a productive meeting though <pleia2> yep :) <doctormo> pleia2: sorry about my attendance, at least I was teaching Ubuntu :-) <pleia2> yay <doctormo> And i get to teach Ubuntu again tonight, 2 nights a week! Well and I'll never get paid for anything at this rate and die as pennyless as Tom Paine. <doctormo> ;-P <pleia2> lol <ongun> hi #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-16 <bodhi_zazen> doctormo: did you see the email re: meeting yesterday ? <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: Yes, good news, things got sorted out :-) <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: anything extra? <bodhi_zazen> no <bodhi_zazen> I wanted to ask you, are you interested in helping develop membership criteria ? <bodhi_zazen> Otherwise I will work on it and present a rough draft for revision <doctormo> Oh and I'm lit in the middle of sysadmin class :-D <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: I can help, what do you need? drafting? <bodhi_zazen> np, can talk later, I am also busy ATM <bodhi_zazen> ideas / suggestions re mebmership criteria and categories (general membership, teachers, admin, students, content contributors, etc). <doctormo_> The class went well <doctormo_> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/ubuntu-system-admin-class-command-line-basics/ <- video will be up when production tools work <renihanc> can anyone help with a hd mounting problem ? #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-17 <existentialblues> hello <doctormo> pleia2: like my new information sheet: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/identifying-computer-ports.pdf <pleia2> doctormo: nice :) <doctormo> pleia2: I'm trying to remember if there is anything I'm missing <pleia2> are there different kinds of power cables? <doctormo> pleia2: Millions, I could note stadard ones such as the IEEE set. * pleia2 nods <doctormo> but the propritary ones are on their own I think <doctormo> good idea though <popey> doctormo: esata? audio ports? <popey> doctormo: serial port looks upside down to me <popey> doctormo: tis a very nice clear paper though, like it <popey> doctormo: displayport? (found on macs and new dell laptops) <doctormo> popey: Good idea with esata, I can jig serial, audio is on it's way, just put in IEC power connectors for good measure. <doctormo> popey: But I don't know about the " <doctormo> Display Port" <popey> doctormo: i have never seen one either, but apparently new macbook pro's have them and I spoke to a guy at work who said the dell xps 13" has one too, I believe it's a mini dvi type thing <popey> doctormo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Port <popey> yay, there's a nice pinout picture you can use :) <doctormo> And I have :-D <doctormo> popey: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/identifying-computer-ports.pdf check out revision 2 <popey> doctormo: lovely! :) <popey> (cloverleaf looks upside down to me though) :) <popey> maybe that's being a brit, i always thing Earth should be at the top/middle :) <doctormo> popey: I'm a brit too you know ;-) I'll jigger that one too <doctormo> popey: that clover was broken anyway, the earth was too small and it was only obvious once the right way up <pleia2> doctormo: nice <doctormo> pleia2, popey: ok just uploaded revision 03, getting close to final I think: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/identifying-computer-ports.pdf <cprofitt> well done doctormo <cprofitt> you just need the mac-in-toy video port <cprofitt> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1562 <doctormo> cprofitt: I thought that was the DisplayPort standard, as included <doctormo> cprofitt: Seems too square, I have no idea what that port is, I need a square on view and what it's based on to get a real handle on it <doctormo> Mini DVI <doctormo> cprofitt: OK, fine uploaded revision 04 :-P <cprofitt> doctormo, -- great job. <cprofitt> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/images/specs_connections_15_large20090608.png#connections <cprofitt> not sure what the heck the port on the far left is <cprofitt> ah... that is the power port... <doctormo> lol, I AINT adding properitary power ports, it'd take more than 10 pages <cprofitt> lol <cprofitt> yeah... I was just ramirezanna@example.org... <cprofitt> and it was funny looking... <cprofitt> then I remembered their power port... <doctormo> cprofitt: OK Rev 05, added Micro-DVI and Mini-DP, man there is a million on these things and most of them come out of Apple Inc <cprofitt> lol #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-18 <doctormo> I'm really quite tired now, that was quite a bit of work <doctormo> Even if some of the ports came from wiki-commons, most of them had to be redrawn. <doctormo> Hey Vantrax <Vantrax> hiya doctormo <doctormo> Vantrax: Oh what a busy day, dragged myself through the creation of the ports sheet (you've seen it right?) and now finally got the wizardpen driver working after all this time. <Vantrax> ... you poor man <doctormo> Vantrax: Hey , I'm a professional whinner, I'll sleep well for being able to moan at you :-D <Vantrax> lol #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-19 <bodhizazen> 'lo all <doctormo> bodhizazen: hello <bodhizazen> doctormo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Structure <doctormo> *reading* <doctormo> Looks like a good draft bodhizazen <bodhizazen> thank you for looking at it doctormo <doctormo> I would have teachers and students as "users" and have both groups as open launchpad groups with launchpad based mailing lists. I'd then have contributors (translators, artists, video producers etc) in a moderated group like devs with commit access, these would have a mailing list. Finally I'd have an administrators group of admins (no mailing list) who publish the work in revisions as required and then the council who are here for <doctormo> dispute resolution. <bodhizazen> well, admins need a mailing list, IMO, it they do dispute resolution <doctormo> admins don't do dispute resolution, that's the council. admins manage to content, they're like the technical commity. <doctormo> users (teachers, students) >> contributors >> admins >> council <bodhizazen> i see <bodhizazen> I would tend to have admins and council be the same people <doctormo> All members of the council will be admins, all admins are contributors and everyone may or may not be teachers and students. <bodhizazen> I am not familiar enough with moodle roles to know for sure <doctormo> We can fold them into the same group while the project is small < 100 people total, but if we get bigger, I'd suggest having it there as an optional expansion to the structure. <bodhizazen> and I am hoping for some additional input =) <doctormo> Also, all admins/council members must be contributors and all contributors have to have pasted the moodle moodle class. <doctormo> This forces me to have to do the class and pushes us to organise internal training of members. * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Tuesday July 20th @ 9pm EDT (01:00 UTC July 21th) | Support in #ubuntu <Vantrax> hello peoples <pleia2> hey Vantrax <Vantrax> i didnt get much time to work on this site over the weekend >.< #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-20 <DoctorMO> pleia2: ping <pleia2> DoctorMO: pong <DoctorMO> pleia2: hey, I wanted you to give me some feedback on my 23rd revision to the foss guide I posted to today's blog post <Severity1> oh! hi pleia2 and DoctorMO <pleia2> DoctorMO: sure, I'll take a look (might have to wait until this afternoon though, I'm a bit swamped at work) <pleia2> g'day Severity1 <DoctorMO> pleia2: no problem <Severity1> :) <pleia2> oh yeah, we have a meeting in ~5 hours <pleia2> I won't be able to make it, have a work obligation that has me a bit overwhelmed so I need to play some catch-up this evening #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-21 <bodhi_zazen> 'lo everyone =) <DoctorMO> hey bodhi_zazen <GaryY_> r my messages being seen? <GaryY_> is anyone online? <DoctorMO> GaryY_: I see you <DoctorMO> pleia2, Vantrax, bodhi_zazen: <Vantrax> yo <DoctorMO> Do we have an agenda for this meetng this evening? <Vantrax> in theory... <DoctorMO> We have bodi and pleia confirmed as not making it, so I'm just pondering <Vantrax> i have nothing to report <Vantrax> and elmo is an elusive individual <Vantrax> im going to be trying to finish the theme this weekend too <DoctorMO> OK, no updates on themes from me, stalled by lack of know how re moodle and php <DoctorMO> Although I do really want to get the header fixed so it floats in a nice way. <Vantrax> also, in 3-4 weeks ill be free to do alot more, ill be home for 2-3 months on nappy changing leave <Vantrax> header fixed?? whats wrong with it? <Vantrax> I do need to change that mouseover to a brown ... that blue is shocking <DoctorMO> Vantrax: I have some new ideas I want to try out, nothing is wrong with it currently. My foot in mount. <Vantrax> ahh <Vantrax> cool:P <Vantrax> im just going to get this version working well, then we have lots of time to tweak and test. <DoctorMO> The idea is to have the block part of it as the banner and then the part that pops out of it, have that float downwards into the menu. <Vantrax> ooh.. <Vantrax> nice idea * Vantrax thinks its beyond my current abilities <DoctorMO> No meeting then? <DoctorMO> Doesn't look like it, it was on for 25 mins ago right? <DoctorMO> And our meeting chair (cprofit) and meeting date organiser (pleia2) are both away <bodhi_zazen> did the meeting happen yesterday ? <pleia2> nope, skipped it since not enough people were around <DoctorMO> Aye <DoctorMO> No meeting <DoctorMO> No meeting organisers <pleia2> and I promised Dougie that our next meeting would be earlier :) #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-23 <bodhi_zazen> Vantrax: boo ! <bodhi_zazen> this channel seems quiet, too quiet <Vantrax> bah <Vantrax> you made me spill my coffee:P <Vantrax> 3-4 weeks and ill be on nappy changing leave so Ill have plenty of time to work on the theme, and get the site up <Vantrax> I think we need to get things moving again <bodhi_zazen> +1 <bodhi_zazen> sorry 'bout the coffee <bodhi_zazen> =) <bodhi_zazen> do we have a draft of a draft of proposed courses yet ? <bodhi_zazen> Vantrax: you interested in this perhaps : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Structure ? <Vantrax> bodhi have you looked at the program links of the wiki page? <bodhi_zazen> no, I was about to =) <bodhi_zazen> where is that Vantrax ? <bodhi_zazen> Or do you mean the big buttons on the main wiki page ? <Vantrax> yeah, the big buttons <bodhi_zazen> OK, yea I will look at those <bodhi_zazen> I thought yo were referring to one big page that listed everything =) <bodhi_zazen> Vantrax: I need to give you ssh access to the UCLP server <bodhi_zazen> do you want to use the same key you have on the test server ? <Vantrax> sure <bodhi_zazen> Or do you want separate keys ? <Vantrax> same one is easier #ubuntu-learning 2009-07-24 <Severity1> Saj0577: you are right <Severity1> weeeeh! <Saj0577> ;) <dinda> http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=21 <dinda> for anyone wanting to take the paid version of the online training course for System Administrators <pleia2> cool, thanks for the link dinda :) <pleia2> so... we're looking at another 3-4 weeks at least before the moodle site is ready theme-wise? is there other stuff that needs to be done to get that ready? <pleia2> and we should all look and comment on bodhi's team structure this weekend * pleia2 supposes she should mail the list <doctormo> pleia2: I think we should <dinda> pleia2: mailing list is good <doctormo> pleia2: the problem is a lack of enertia is slowing potential participation even further. <dinda> pleia2: I've tried to direct even more people who want to do screencasts over here <doctormo> pleia2: I'm worried <pleia2> doctormo: agreed, it's actually getting a bit frustrating for me :\ <pleia2> dinda: oh great, thanks <dinda> I think once there is some content up, it will help get folks restarted <pleia2> I'll draft an email after work outlining what we need right now, these constant stalls with licensing and now with team structure need to stop happening ;) <doctormo> I've got my responsibilities now to make this sys-admin course, so it will be made. question of uploading it the moodle * pleia2 nods <doctormo> 2 seconds are done (well draft done and taught once) and at least 8 sectons to go (1 per week) <dinda> yes, I've been having more than my share of moodle issues on my own servers <doctormo> sections* <pleia2> who here is our moodle expert, anyway? <doctormo> pleia2: do we have one? <pleia2> I don't know :) <dinda> I thought bodhi was an expert on the sys admin side anyways <pleia2> yeah, he's the expert on getting it installed and deployed <pleia2> not so much with moodle specifics <dinda> I thought moodle was pretty straight forward but then I've used a ton of similar systems, and I've been told it's not so obvious to folks new to the LMS world that it's not <dinda> Can I get you folks opinion on the state of screencasts.ubuntu.com? * dinda goes to see if Popey is available for a quick chat
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