#ubuntu-ie 2011-10-03 * airurando changed the topic of #ubuntu-ie to: Welcome to Ubuntu Ireland! || http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam || This channel is logged - logs at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ || Next IRC Meeting: TBD || Stay tuned for details of the next Ubuntu Hour! <airurando> morning <slashtom> good morning <airurando> hi slashtom <airurando> Sunday 23rd is good for me :) <airurando> barring something else weird cropping up! <slashtom> grand <airurando> do you reckon a Sunday is as good as a Saturday? * slashtom and ebel have found a suitable venue. cafÃ© in temple bar with plenty of room and a reasonable menu <airurando> cool. <ebel> morning <slashtom> well, a sunday might exclude the hard-core religious, but you're always going to end up excluding someone :) <airurando> morning ebel <airurando> indeed slashtom. <airurando> I was just wondering about it. mu gut feeling is that Sat would be better than Sun. <airurando> But Sun is better than none!! <slashtom> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.344944&mlon=-6.263538&zoom=18&layers=M - central enough? <airurando> spot on. <airurando> Will I generate the LoCo dir listing for this UH? <airurando> say 3pm Sun 23rd in Cappuccino? <slashtom> 2pm? <slashtom> or 2.30pm? <slashtom> you would be travelling the furthest... <airurando> 2 pm is fine. <airurando> we will go with that so. <airurando> I'll generate the event but I'd appreciate it if you and ebel could pimp it. <ebel> sure sure * airurando feels his promotion efforts hinder ubuntu-ie events. <czajkowski> airurando: I don't think so at all <czajkowski> airurando: I think you do a good job <airurando> czajkowski you are kind but that's the way I feel. <czajkowski> :/ <czajkowski> why? * airurando gets annoyed with the silverlight requirement for the RWC website video content. <slashtom> RWC? <airurando> the dreaded rugby <airurando> don't mean to bother you with this slashtom <airurando> :) <slashtom> isn't the stuffs on the rtÃ© player? <ebel> airurando: you help, i cannot understand how you could be hindrance <airurando> slashtom. Most of it but not all of it. <airurando> moonlight doesn't cut it either. <airurando> ebel: as slashtom is not available for selection as the 'event contact' on the LoCo dir I'm going to put you in. I hope that is ok. <ebel> sure no problem <slashtom> hehe, i'm not available!!? <airurando> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1321/detail/ <airurando> pimp it people! pimp it!! <airurando> oh and sign up. <airurando> I won't sign up until I see others. <slashtom> tis more useful if people signup for the release party <slashtom> as we need to book a table(s) <slashtom> tdr112 has already told me he is coming <BenChapman> Looking forward to that! <BenChapman> provided I've moved into Dublin at that stage... <airurando> slashtom I won't be at the restaurant. <airurando> I'll hook up with you all later. <airurando> pressure at work that weekend as 2 shift members are off. <airurando> I reckon I won't get into town until 8pm at the earliest. <slashtom> i don't know where we would be going afterwards <slashtom> BenChapman: when are you planning on moving into town? <BenChapman> slashtom: as soon as I can :P <BenChapman> only factor on that is 1) My boss paying me the money I'm owed for the last month, and 2) people responding to my emails <slashtom> ah, good luck <BenChapman> thank you :) <BenChapman> hopefully it will be by then! <slashtom> people seem to respond better to facebook these days :) <airurando> slashtom infoturtle controls the ubuntu-ie facebook page <BenChapman> slashtom: Sadly daft only lets you use a form... which is crap <slashtom> oh, for landlords? <slashtom> beware, many landlords do not check their email number often [sic] <slashtom> especially when the landlord is someone like a retired teacher <BenChapman> slashtom: Not a landlord, it's the "Sharing" section. No phone number given. One of them is a googler apparently, so I'd expect email to be checked regularly enough <ebel> trying to find a place to share can be a pain in the hole. Since people don't reply to things, etc. <BenChapman> ebel: Just realised the place has disappeared off Daft... that would explain <BenChapman> it <BenChapman> Btw, if anyone knows someone looking for someone to share an apartment with, please let me know :P <delcoyote> Tribaal, was looking i think BenChapman <BenChapman> hmmm Thank you, will bear in mind :) <delcoyote> no bother <delcoyote> is that dojo active in Dublin still? BenChapman <BenChapman> It is indeed, every Saturday <delcoyote> at the same place? <delcoyote> I should pop in some Saturday.. if I'm not working.. <BenChapman> Yup, though we're looking to change locations within the next two months to a purpose designed space.. but more on that when we have definite details <BenChapman> for now it's in the Guinness Enterprise Centre <BenChapman> http://g.co/maps/zte4m <delcoyote> thanks.. early morning? <BenChapman> noon until 3pm <BenChapman> looking forward to seeing you there! Hopefully. <delcoyote> not this Saturday :-( <BenChapman> Heh, working then? <delcoyote> but I will try the next one.. if I am able to go <delcoyote> working yes, until 4:30pm <BenChapman> cool cool <delcoyote> going to add this to my agenda... loosing bytes lately <delcoyote> thanks by the way <BenChapman> heh, no problem... hopefully it'll lead to more people supporting us etc.. :D <tdr112> anyone know of problems on updating to 11.04 for wifi <tdr112> my mother laptop wifi has stopped working , i need to try and fix it over the phone <tdr112> *mother's <czajkowski> tdr112: nope shoul be just fine <BenChapman> tdr112: I had a slight problem with mine, fixed on reinstall <tdr112> i guess she will have to wait until i can get down to see her , he does not like the new ui <tdr112> "cant find anything" <czajkowski> tdr112: get her to share her desktop with you <czajkowski> tdr112: ask popey how he manages his mumbuntu install <delcoyote> It is a shock from the old GUI to the new Unity or whatever it's name is #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-04 <czajkowski> aloha <BenChapman> morning1 <ebel> 'ello <airurando> howdy <ebel> yo <airurando> tdr112: are you doin' the team report for Sept? <tdr112> i will do it day <slashtom> thanks for the tweeting czajkowski, but we need a map <slashtom> the cafÃ© is hidden away, so until we get an openstreetmap image, we shouldn't announce it <slashtom> oh teh noes, more tweets about it... with no clear location <slashtom> good luck to anyone finding the place <ebel> It is partially on the map <ebel> so it should be alright <slashtom> gah, i cannot find the event on loco directory * slashtom gives up and goes back to work <ebel> tis on the ubuntu-ie page <slashtom> no it isn't <ebel> start off on LD page, then go to Europe, then ireland, then you see evnts <ebel> slashtom: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie <slashtom> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/ 404 <slashtom> why is that using google maps, it's copyrightes <slashtom> copyrighted <slashtom> ok, fine <ebel> hehe, dunno why that /events/ubuntu-ie/ page doesn't work. <ebel> slashtom: you can also see it here http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie/events #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-05 <BenChapman> morning <slashtom> good morning <dumb1224> morning..hehe <tdr112> morning all <slashtom> hey tdr112, how's things? <tdr112> grand , booked some time off work for some events i want to go to <slashtom> good, i'm glad they're letting you take some holiday <czajkowski> tdr112: nice what ones <tdr112> darklight, Irisscert, 28c3 , <czajkowski> #cool <czajkowski> tdr112: dontforget FOSDEM <czajkowski> ebel: coming this year <slashtom> what are Irisscert and 28c3? <tdr112> IRISSCERT Cyber Crime Conference <slashtom> cool <tdr112> 28c3 is a hacking one on every year , the names chnages each year eg last year was 27c3 <tdr112> czajkowski: what are the dates again i think i am away snowboarding <ebel> fosdem, probably not.... <czajkowski> 3/4 feb <czajkowski> ebel: you're no fun any more :( <ebel> slashtom: Xc3 is the big hackerspace conference just after xmas. * ebel hadn't considered fosdem <slashtom> ah, in germany? <slashtom> it does sound more fun than visiting my family <ebel> berlin IIRC <slashtom> and i would like to visit berlin... <tdr112> czajkowski: sorry but i am going away on the 4th <czajkowski> tdr112: tut tut missing again the largest EU conference for FOSS <tdr112> slashtom: there will be a good size crew goiing to 28c3 from ireland <tdr112> czajkowski i know but a group of us are going could not chnage it <dumb1224> sorry if it's a bit naive...delete a file or directory requires the execute permission? <slashtom> no <slashtom> directories require an execute permission <dumb1224> got it thanks! #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-06 <czajkowski> Alolha <slashtom> good morning <czajkowski> tdr112: https://twitter.com/#!/robinb/status/121879580670820352 <dstaar> hi <dstaar> i need some help due to rDNS <dstaar> i set up a smtp server but mxtoolbox ist telling me that: Warning - Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner <dstaar> how does the correct rdns look like for meetosphere.com <slashtom> 800.716.0984.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer static.800.716.0984.clients.your-server.de. <dstaar> i'm a little bit confused my ip 800.716.0984 needs to point to the second URL you mentioned? <dstaar> ok seems to be the second one :) <slashtom> second URL that I mentioned? <slashtom> i didn't mention any URLs <dstaar> ok, it's an address <slashtom> no, i didn't mention any address <dstaar> *g what else? <slashtom> i just copied in what your reverse DNS is <dstaar> ok it is my rDNS <dstaar> thank you :) #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-07 <tdr112> morning <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> good morning <slashtom> early start this weekend? <czajkowski> yup <slashtom> what happens next round, if both england and ireland win their games this weekend... you would have a dilema right there? <czajkowski> nope <czajkowski> 4 games up norther hemisphwere <czajkowski> 4 games up souththern hemishphere <ebel> i thought all the games were in NZ? <czajkowski> yes <czajkowski> but it's ireland V wales <czajkowski> england V france <czajkowski> AU V ZA <czajkowski> NZ V argentina <slashtom> but if ireland and england both win, they end up playing each other iirc <czajkowski> not sure <slashtom> according to the wall chart in our office kitchen, they do <slashtom> question is, who will czajkowski be supporting? <czajkowski> ireland then <slashtom> oh no, you will fail the tebbit test then <slashtom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test <moylan> scots and welsh aren't immigrants and would follow their own native teams :-p <slashtom> well, technically it's the english and welsh cricket team <slashtom> (the scots being not classed as civilised enough to have a cricket team) ;) <moylan> remember reading a few years ago that the irish cricket team nearly died off through lack of interest and only survived due to the number of immigrants from cricket loving countries that kept it alive. <slashtom> and they still give the english a good thrashing :) <moylan> well if they thrash the english then the irish may, just may take an interest. <slashtom> they did, earlier this year in the world cup <czajkowski> http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/189359_10150255720760671_588465670_8161883_4209319_n.jpg <ebel> czajkowski: looks like a fake http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/radar.asp <czajkowski> dont spoil my fun <czajkowski> ebel: http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/09/27/ordering-11-10-cds-is-now-open/ <ebel> âº <ebel> thanks for the reminder <terran> I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone paste an actual smiling face into IRC <ebel> âº <ebel> It's in unicode! <ebel> U+263A WHITE SMILING FACE <ebel> I have it set up in my XCompose, so when i type in :) i can get a âº <ebel> CDs requested for this loco <terran> â¦ <terran> å #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-08 <airurando> afternoon <shanem> I have a free ticket to PyCon in Dublin that I can't use if anyone wants it. <shanem> Bit of short notice on it though since it started today and finishes tomorrow. #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-09 <mokmeister> How would one buy braid on 10.04? Any one know how these software centres work? #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-10 <czajkowski> Aloha <slashtom> 5 days until release party, time to start pimping it? <delcoyote> So its Saturday what tim?? <delcoyote> time <czajkowski> Aloha <delcoyote> Hi czajkowski <czajkowski> hows life folks <delcoyote> @work great, stirring the pots :-) <meetingology> delcoyote: Error: "work" is not a valid command. <delcoyote> lo@l <czajkowski> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/1006/1224305328536.html#.TpLgKbrnm98.twitter <slashtom> delcoyote: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1278/detail/ 5pm <slashtom> czajkowski: i don't think the same thing applies to using open source in the public sector, as in it is not a human rights issue imo <delcoyote> thank you slashtom <digikwondo> hello, having some issues with my touchpad on ubuntu 11.04. is this the right place to ask? #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-11 <tdr112> people on the bus talking about how good ubuntu is <tdr112> good to hear <czajkowski> yay <czajkowski> tdr112: did a mail I sent to Ubuntu-ie get deleivered today <tdr112> the unity one <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> video <delcoyote> what bus? tdr112 ? <delcoyote> hi all btw <tdr112> dublin bus <tdr112> 33 <delcoyote> hmm ucd dcu? <delcoyote> NOT FAMILIAR WITH DUBLIN BUS YET <czajkowski> tdr112: any of the rb folks going to the release party <delcoyote> and my keyboard also :-) <tdr112> i must ask them <airurando> evening all <delcoyote> evening airurando <tdr112> delcoyote: it goes near dcu , but they ate mot from it <delcoyote> interesting tdr112 .. :-) <tdr112> irssi via the phone is hard <tdr112> thrse keys are too small <airurando> who is going to the release party on sat? <tdr112> i am <tdr112> have we picked a pub for after the food <airurando> haven't heard. <airurando> I hope someone will keep me in the loop as I can't make it in before 8pm <tdr112> airurando: your coming late <airurando> yeah. <tdr112> give me a ring <airurando> will do <tdr112> has an email gone out yet , <airurando> not recently. <tdr112> will i send one <airurando> please do <tdr112> ok i will be off the bus soon <tdr112> will do it then <slashtom> hey, airunando, tdr112 <slashtom> i was thinking maybe porterhouse on parliament street, it's close by and has good beer <airurando> hi slashtom <airurando> porterhouse sounds good to me. <slashtom> deadly, tdr112 you coming to food? <slashtom> we should book a table tomorrow or thursday * airurando is working on Sat and Sun but has booked a room in the Ibis for Sat night so he can have a few scoops <slashtom> deadly <digikwondo> uhm... anyone know where one could order food this our in dublin city center? =) <moylan> http://www.just-eat.ie/ ? #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-12 <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> good morning <czajkowski> ello hows you tom ? <slashtom> grand, how's the england? <czajkowski> yeah good thanks <czajkowski> just turned another job <czajkowski> it never rains but it pours <slashtom> turned another? <airurando> morning all <czajkowski> down <slashtom> ah, grand. good to be getting so many offers <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> wish it was 4 months ago <czajkowski> but how and ever <slashtom> is current place permanent or contract? <czajkowski> 4 months and then ewview and see if it's a cost saving working <ebel> morning <slashtom> good luck <slashtom> what are you doing there? <ebel> czajkowski has more job offers? nice! <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> but sticking it out here <czajkowski> tons more experience <czajkowski> and responsibility <ebel> Cool. Congrats! <tdr112> slashtom: yes i am going for food , might be bring a mate , i will let you know tomorrow morning for booking <airurando> just wondering if we are going to have an IRC meeting this month? <ebel> Oh, we probably should <czajkowski> http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/314596_275382205826556_116687691696009_901751_1484583353_n.jpg so cute <ebel> that would usually be today.... <czajkowski> want <airurando> czajkowski are hey baby hedgehogs? <airurando> ebel: next Weds would be the third Weds which was the usual day <ebel> there are whole blog rolls dedicated to to baaaaaaby animals. :P <airurando> but that didn't seem to suit. <czajkowski> airurando: porcupine babies <ebel> jesus, they are like balls of fluff http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wmts3jhp8Gk <airurando> does anyone have a suggestion for a better day/time for the IRC meeting? <ebel> next wed. seems more sensible otherwise it's quite last minute <ebel> twould also allow a report on release party <airurando> ebel do you think a change from Wednesday is required? <ebel> no, don't think so.... <airurando> perhaps we should start at 9pm to facilitate late eaters? <czajkowski> moonpie: ping <czajkowski> terran: ping <terran> what up <czajkowski> terran: can you post to the intersocs channel http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1278/detail/ <czajkowski> please <czajkowski> and note we're going to a pub afterwards <czajkowski> but not sure of the pub <czajkowski> but will be tweeting it from @ubuntuie * czajkowski pokes ebel to confirm <ebel> confirm what? <ebel> confirm pubbage? <terran> czajkowski: done <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> thanks terran <airurando> slashtom suggested the porterhouse <czajkowski> which one ? <airurando> parliament St. <airurando> Slashtom reckons that one is close by. <ebel> FYI i think slashtom is in a meeting now <airurando> ebel will we say 9pm next Wednesday for IRC? <ebel> airurando: yes, i'd say so. unless anyone has any other objections/suggestions. <slashtom> aye, Porterhouse on Parliament Street - it is near and actually serves beer! <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/#!/Canonical <czajkowski> @D <meetingology> czajkowski: Error: "D" is not a valid command. <czajkowski> look at their latest tweet <ebel> Cool. <dumb1224> just updated to ubuntu 11.04 <dumb1224> the unity interface is very mac-y <czajkowski> http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/ <dumb1224> it's a good looking interface <dumb1224> is there a 'show desktop' icon on unity? <Belgarat1> no <Belgarat1> as there is no desktop <dumb1224> hmmm <dumb1224> time to get organised and not leaving loads of folders on desktop then! <czajkowski> you can still get at them <dumb1224> czajkowski: get at them? <czajkowski> yeah I save stuff to desktop on onieirc and use that <dumb1224> czajkowski: what does that mean? <czajkowski> what does what mean ? <delcoyote> messy desktop! <czajkowski> I still store files or folders on there <czajkowski> you can still get at your desktop <czajkowski> you just dont have to * airurando changed the topic of #ubuntu-ie to: Welcome to Ubuntu Ireland! || http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam || This channel is logged - logs at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ || Next IRC Meeting: Wednesday 19 Oct 11 @ 9pm || Ubuntu Hour returns to Dublin on Sunday 23 Oct 11. Details at http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1321/detail/ #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-13 <kaege> could some 1 help me? <kaege> hello <kaege> hell <kaege> my ubuntu software centre is missing <airurando> morning <slashtom> good morning <airurando> hi slashtom <czajkowski> peeka boo <czajkowski> release day <slashtom> when's your party? <czajkowski> tonight <czajkowski> happens in london this way as canonical been here all week <slashtom> grand <slashtom> you could fly out to our party on the saturday ;) <czajkowski> saturday is a photo workshop <airurando> hi czajkowski <czajkowski> airurando: howdy doody <czajkowski> airurando: read my blog lately <czajkowski> :) <airurando> yip <airurando> :) <airurando> tell me how did canonical get to retweet the ubuntuie tweet yesterday? <airurando> you must have influenced that <czajkowski> I tweet <czajkowski> canonical follows me <czajkowski> :) <czajkowski> simples <airurando> ahh <czajkowski> but also rather cool <czajkowski> :) <airurando> very cool <airurando> I was gobsmacked <airurando> is everyone #ubuntu-release-party today? <airurando> only 249 in there at present <czajkowski> aye slow start <slashtom> BenChapman: you coming to the release party? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1278/detail/ <dumb1224> dont want to ask but any other window manager to temporarily replace unity <dumb1224> i know there are a lot <slashtom> gnome? <dumb1224> hmmm is it worth it? <czajkowski> why would you want to replace unity <czajkowski> next lts it's the standard <dumb1224> oh you mean gnome3? <dumb1224> czajkowski: trying to get used to it but need to do some work as well so... <BenChapman> slashtom: yes, I will. sorry kept forgetting to respond to the email! <slashtom> we will be booking a table later, so sign up ;) <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> dont see what needs to get used to and I'm not trying to be smart <BenChapman> done and done <czajkowski> different layout <czajkowski> but all your stuff is still there <czajkowski> just alt f2 there <czajkowski> and type what you want and it finds it <slashtom> czajkowski: freedom is about user choice, i should be able to choose whatever windowmanager i want to use and not be inflicted with whatever canonical decide <slashtom> overwise you may as just well be Apple <BenChapman> slashtom: I may have 1 guest with me <slashtom> grand <ebel> slashtom: you can still change it <slashtom> aye ebel <dumb1224> czajkowski: for some reason it's not working very well.... <ebel> slashtom: however you /have/ to have a default. otherwise you vastly increase the complexity when installing. <czajkowski> ebel: +1 <dumb1224> czajkowski: there are some quirky behaviour,,,could be tat I upgraded two releases in a row <czajkowski> dumb1224: what's not working well <czajkowski> I've been running alpahas and betas on the same machine since karmic <ebel> slashtom: by your logic ubuntu has always been like apple since it has /always/ had a default window manager/desktop environment that canonical choose. <dumb1224> e.g when I minimise a window i couldn't click on the launcher, some app works fine but some dont <ebel> (Now complaints about the technical merits of unity are a different matter :P ) <slashtom> ebel: i was refering to the attitude of "there's something wrong with you if you want to change the default" <dumb1224> I'm happy canonical stepped forward for a more user-friendly UI <dumb1224> But I also like to have a default minimal WM installed, in contrast to a fancy one <slashtom> there are lots of minimal WM available <dumb1224> I've tried blackbox, it's very nice but a bit of conf to do,,,I'm still very green on configuring a wm <ebel> slashtom: ah, i see why what czajkowski said might be interpreted that way. <ebel> sounds like a simple miscommunication though. <slashtom> however i quite like enlightenment :P <ebel> "why would you want to" can sound a bit opressive, but "it shouldn't be much of a change, so don't worry about it" less so. <dumb1224> what does the panel on top do? * ebel goes back to his coffee <slashtom> :P <dumb1224> it looks like mac os' title bar? <czajkowski> #ubuntu-release-party is the channel to hang out if you want to keeep up to date <czajkowski> ubuntu.com Ubuntu 11.10 is here! <czajkowski> tis out <czajkowski> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour <ebel> !! <ebel> is that a mock up.... <ebel> or that jslinux thing.... <ebel> ah it's just a HTML mockup... <ebel> shame, "Booting Ubuntu in your browser would be freaking cool" <tdr112> thats a cool demo <czajkowski> yup the tour is nice <tdr112> i want to change my dev laptop to ubuntu <tdr112> its looks great <tdr112> i miss it <czajkowski> ok fucntional spec all done up bar one wire frame which I cannot get my head around <czajkowski> gah!!!!!!!!!! <czajkowski> so not in the mood <czajkowski> can someone post to the -ie list the tour link and 11.10 is out <tdr112> ok <czajkowski> thanks <czajkowski> http://www.thenewubuntu.com <czajkowski> is also a good tour <tdr112> email away <delcoyote> precise pangolin.... <dumb1224> oh no.... <dumb1224> after a partial upgrade the keyboard and mouse not working on my laptop <dumb1224> run dpkg-reconfigure not helping <tonywade> hi <Belgarat1> hi #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-14 <tdr112> morning all <tdr112> have we book the place for tomorrow <czajkowski> pello <ebel> yes, i think slashtom will do it <slashtom> i will see to it this afternoon * slashtom goes to search google for the cryptic link to the loco directory stuffs, to find how many are registered <tdr112> ok book me 2 places <ebel> slashtom: go to loco directory â irish team it should list upcoming events <slashtom> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1278/detail/ - was does registration status mean? <slashtom> ok tdr112, that puts us on 8 <tdr112> good stuff <slashtom> Cactus Jacks is booked for tomorrow at 5pm, table for 8, in the name of Ubuntu Ireland! <ebel> Cool thanks slashtom <delcoyote> enjoy! <czajkowski> TREllis: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac meet your new Community Council <czajkowski> bah <czajkowski> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac meet your new Community Council <tdr112> czajkowski: so you got on it ? <czajkowski> yup <czajkowski> I got in 3rd <czajkowski> there were 7 places <tdr112> i was wondering a bit as it said lost to <tdr112> but good stuff <ebel> czajkowski: weren't you always on the community council? <tdr112> i think that was the loco one <czajkowski> loco and membership <slashtom> hey airurando <slashtom> table booked for tomorrow at 5pm <airurando> Hi slashtom <airurando> Just logged in on phone after reading the IRC logs <slashtom> ah yes, i must pass on the meeting next week <airurando> I hope I had made it clear earlier that I can't make the food. <slashtom> i have better things to do (work social), but have nothing to add - ubuntu hour will be going ahead as planned <slashtom> aye, you did <airurando> Don't worry another the meeting. <airurando> Cool <tdr112> we have a meeting <airurando> Looking forward to seeing you all tomorrow <airurando> Tdr112 next Wednesday. <airurando> Is porterhouse on parliament st the place for drinks after the food? <airurando> I hope to make it in for sometime before 9. <airurando> Work is chaotic at the mo. <tdr112> airurando: we think so not 100% <airurando> Must get back to it. <airurando> Air if not I will ring you. <airurando> Sur* <airurando> Bye <slashtom> yes, yes it is #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-15 <airurando> Morning <airurando> tdr112: I've left your # at home. <airurando> If the after party venue changes can someone post details in here? <airurando> I'll pick it up from the logs. <ebel> hello from tje release paty <ebel> if you are in dublin, feel free to come alomg to cactus jacks <ebel> we are in cactus jacks now <ebel> will prob go to porterhouse parliament st. in about 30 mins <ebel> in the porterhouse <ebel> ubuntu ie release party in porterhouse parliament st <padraic> hi #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-16 <BenChapman> morning * BenChapman-termi test <res22> best ubuntu animal ever http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Ocelot.jpg/800px-Ocelot.jpg #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-17 <airurando> morning <airurando> http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/424314 <airurando> some photos from the release party <airurando> If anyone else has photos and is willing to add them to the pix.ie album just ping me for the login details (if you don't have them already) <airurando> hi ebel and slashtom <airurando> some photos from the release party <airurando> http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/424314 <ebel> cool <ebel> i have some too aswell... <airurando> do you have the login details? <airurando> sean fell will add his also :) <airurando> it was a very enjoyable night <slashtom> aye, we had a good turn out <tdr112> hey slashtom <czajkowski> aloha <ebel> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/tags/ocelotreleaseparty/ some pics from me <slashtom> morning <slashtom> how many did we have, i think there must have been 11 or 12 people at cactus jacks, then a few more joined us in porterhouse <czajkowski> nice job folks <czajkowski> want a laugh <czajkowski> after all my job offers <czajkowski> and me rejecting them <czajkowski> I got laid off on thursday <czajkowski> am not a happy bunny at all <airurando> czajkowski real sorry to hear that. <airurando> was the four months over? <czajkowski> nope they hired too many in one go <czajkowski> and then not enough work <czajkowski> so meh <airurando> :( <terran> czajkowski: That sucks :( <czajkowski> yup <tdr112> fecking hell <tdr112> that is crap <tdr112> sorry to hear it <slashtom> oh noes <czajkowski> yeah so not a happy camper atm <slashtom> can you not go back to the offers from last week? <ebel> czajkowski: erk â¹ sorry to hear.... <slashtom> afterall it was only a few days ago <ebel> yeah, nothing wrong with going back to old offers <ebel> hope you get something sorted soon... <czajkowski> I did <czajkowski> and the jobs are gone <Belgarat1> pity :( <ebel> :/ pity <airurando> ubuntu open week has started over in #ubuntu-classroom <airurando> open week schedule at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-18 <BenChapman[]> morning <slashtom> good morning * ebel imagines BenChapman[] has a PHP array <ebel> s/has/as/ <BenChapman[]> lol <BenChapman[]> why does it keep giving me taht nick :/ <BenChapman> thats better <slashtom> 697MB Ubuntu iso downloading in less than 10 minutes :P <BenChapman> nice :) <tdr112> is the irc meeting tomorrow <ebel> yes should be <ebel> hmmm, maybe we should announce that on the mailing list... * slashtom has other things planned <slashtom> but there will be an ubuntu hour on sunday <BenChapman> slashtom: Full ubuntu CD in 6 minutes... not terrible <slashtom> Ubuntu fail with ATI Radeon card on new PC :( * slashtom tries out Debian Testing <BenChapman> I'm afraid to update <BenChapman> :P <ebel> â¹ <BenChapman> I cannnot see that character <ebel> Unicode! <ebel> (It's a :) ) <slashtom> idea... (as i won't be at the irc meeting) <slashtom> after the CDs arrive, have an ubuntu hour - people can collect copies there <slashtom> obviously batches may be going to limerick, galway etc, but those for those being distributed in the pale, it could be a convenient opportunity <ebel> yes, we've sorta done things like that beofre <ebel> (well more like, there are usally cds at the following ubuntu hour) <slashtom> ok :) <shanem> Has anyone been having issues playing h264 videos since the update? <moylan> i've kept an eye open since you mentioned it in #tdtrs haven't seen any other references #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-19 <dumb1224> Hi,I have trouble connecting to a hp printer using smb://ip/printer <dumb1224> I can logon with the provide windows active directory usr&pwd using smbclient <dumb1224> but the printer state is giving me NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED <Belgarath> dumb1224: are you sure you have permission to use the prnter <Belgarath> I mean on the wiondows box <Belgarath> are you in the groupo that have printer access <airurando> evening <daxroc> evening <tdr112> airurando: is there a wiki page up about tonight <airurando> hi tdr112 <airurando> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-10-19/ <airurando> nothing on it yet <tdr112> can u add things for me, i am on my phone <airurando> will do <tdr112> ubintu cds <airurando> shout <airurando> right <tdr112> ubuntu hour this week <airurando> that all? <tdr112> and that day you were talking about next month <airurando> ok <tdr112> thats all i will log off until 9 to save power on my phone <airurando> see ya <airurando> monthly team meeting due to start in 5 minutes <tdr112> back * ebel waves from the pub <airurando> lucky you <tdr112> ebel: has the right idea * tdr112 is on the bus <ebel> gotta love smartphones. <tdr112> ah you do , but they dont love big fingers <ebel> tis technically 9, shall we wait a few before starting the meeting? <airurando> disappointing :( <airurando> is there any point with just 3? <czajkowski> ello <airurando> 4 <airurando> howdy czajkowski <daxroc> ping <airurando> :) <tdr112> airurando: you can tell us about this day next month <airurando> right oh <airurando> will we start? <tdr112> good to go <airurando> as some are on phones I'll offer to chair. <ebel> yeah, lets statt <airurando> ebel don't get too drunk <airurando> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Oct 19 20:05:37 2011 UTC. The chair is airurando. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired <airurando> evening all and welcome to the Ubuntu Ireland Team meeting for October <czajkowski> o/ <airurando> The agenda for this evenings meeting can be found: <airurando> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-10-19 <airurando> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-10-19 <airurando> can those here for the meeting please indicate so by typing PRESENT <airurando> PRESENT <czajkowski> PRESENT <ebel> anseo <tdr112> Phere <tdr112> here <airurando> #topic Review of previous action items <airurando> no meeting last month <airurando> no outstanding action items for August either <airurando> on to agenda items proper <airurando> #topic Ubuntu 11:10 CDs <airurando> tdr112 the floor is yours <tdr112> so we will be getting cds soon <tdr112> what do we do with them <czajkowski> college comp socs ? <tdr112> send them to the same epople we did last time <czajkowski> hackerspaces? <ebel> FYI i have appljed, as official address contact, and shall let the loco know when the arrive at my address <tdr112> how about a ubunut hour in dublin to give them to people and save on postege <airurando> I have a spreadsheet with all recipients from the last lot <czajkowski> cool <airurando> tdr112 slashtom suggested that yesterday. <airurando> ebel I'll email the spreadsheet to you <ebel> i suppose, in general, posting them around, but would auggest reciepients should send a SAE, rather than 1 person (me) paying all postage <tdr112> yep its not my idea <tdr112> its a good one <airurando> I like the Ubuntu Uk approach <tdr112> which is <airurando> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/10/18/free-ubuntu-11-10-cds-for-the-uk/ <airurando> http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ <airurando> doesn't really work for the bigger packs though <ebel> here's an idea: email mailing list, solicit people who want them, if there arent a lot, follow up on people from last time? <airurando> ebel need to keep costs down though <airurando> all Dublinites or groups should collech at UH <tdr112> yep <ebel> yes, agreed <ebel> could require peollhr who dont collect to semd sae? <airurando> for groups around the country we should try a cheap delivery or collection approach <airurando> doesn't have to be instantaneous this time <ebel> solves the cost problem, since means i wouldnt have to pay anything <airurando> I ebel: indeed <tdr112> good stuff <airurando> I have a request in relation to this <ebel> tbh it costs aboit 3 or 4 eur for a sae, not a lpt <airurando> I've been chatting to Cathal Garvey of Nexus Cork about the possibility of the hackerspace running a linux workshop for beginners as part of the Lifelong Learning Festival in cork in 2012 <airurando> Cathal seems positively disposed to this idea <ebel> (for dublin hackerspace, tog should get some, but not as much as last tome, tjere were too many left over) <tdr112> ebel: yep 20 max <ebel> surely all these people will come out of the woodwork when we email ubuntuie mailing list <tdr112> yep <daxroc> Are these the CDs n Stickers? <tdr112> just cds <ebel> i doubt (from experiemce) that we'll run out of people to send em too <daxroc> Can I request some, I'll pay the shipping for 4 copys <airurando> could we possibly 'ringfence' a good few for the possibility of a workshop at the Cork Lifelong Learning Festival for April next? <ebel> finding people to give fancy cds to is jot a problem. <airurando> daxroc where are you based. <daxroc> Wexford <ebel> aitab suppose, how many? <airurando> hard to say <airurando> might not even happen <daxroc> 4, or if you want to leave a few more here for people to collect, im between north and south wexford daily ( mon - fri ) <ebel> a lot will depemd on who requests cds. i predict i'll get the cds within the next weel or 2 <czajkowski> airurando: sounds like a plan <czajkowski> airurando: also the limerick learning hub <tdr112> czajkowski: what is the story with the packs you can order <tdr112> are they free <tdr112> for eventw <tdr112> events <ebel> idea: see who requests cds, then have an irc meeting allocate them? <airurando> czajkowski: they got some last time through Michael Yonker so yeah <ebel> ratjer than me deciding unilaterally who gets em? <airurando> ebel good idea <tdr112> ok <airurando> ebel will you send the mail <airurando> ? <ebel> Aince ATM we're talking about thjngs we have no idea <airurando> any objections <czajkowski> airurando: grand <ebel> sute ill send the email to the list asking for requests, and again whwn we get them, inviting peoplhr to a meeting to 'plead their case' <airurando> #agreed hold seperate meeting to consider requests for CDs <ebel> (and i'm ircing over ssh, so get no autocorrect, its not that im drunk :P) <tdr112> ebel: sure :)# <airurando> #action ebel to mail list seeking requests for 11:10 CDs <meetingology> ACTION: ebel to mail list seeking requests for 11:10 CDs <airurando> are we done with this <tdr112> yep <airurando> next topic <airurando> #topic Ubuntu Hour Dublin (next Sunday) <airurando> tdr112 you again. <tdr112> its on this weekend all welcome <czajkowski> cool <tdr112> i dont have a link to hand <czajkowski> where are ye off to <tdr112> its a day time ubuntu hour <tdr112> so come and join us for a cup of tea <airurando> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1321/detail/ <ebel> we're goijg to a cafe in templebar <tdr112> we will send a reminder out on the mail list <czajkowski> I would do if I could fly in :) <airurando> I'm looking forward to this <airurando> :) <czajkowski> sounds like a great idea lads <tdr112> any questions <airurando> nice follow up to the excellent release party <tdr112> ? <airurando> not here <czajkowski> if ye have a write up and pics of the -ie <czajkowski> release party mail me and I'll blog them for you <airurando> will do <airurando> will we move on to the last agenda item proper? <airurando> daxroc you can definitely get some of the CDs somehow. <tdr112> yep <airurando> #topic Community Appreciation Day <airurando> I saw this on twitter recently. <airurando> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay <airurando> the title says it all but more info on the page <airurando> I was thinking that we should hold a second UH on 20 nov 11 <airurando> combine UH with Community Appreciation Day <daxroc> airurando: thanks <tdr112> it sounds like a good idea <airurando> also a good opportunity for the bulk of Dublin CD distribution <airurando> ebel any thoughts <airurando> ? <airurando> czajkowski what do you think? <tdr112> gtg my stop <ebel> qeh, no real opiniom.on community appreviation day, havent really neen following it, dont know mich aboit ot <airurando> lol <ebel> laaaag <airurando> fat fungrs <airurando> no big deal we can talk about it again. <airurando> moving on <airurando> #Any Other Business <tdr112> back <tdr112> nope <ebel> nope <tdr112> ok bye <ebel> ok <airurando_> anyone there? <ebel> yo <airurando> ebel I think it's time to finish up <ebel> yep <airurando> #endmeeting <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 20:46:27 2011 UTC. <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ie/2011/ubuntu-ie.2011-10-19-20.05.moin.txt <airurando> night <BenChapman> hey #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-20 <BenChapman> morning <delcoyote> hi de hi <dumb1224> Hi someone replied to me but how can I check my chat history on irssi? <dumb1224> morning /help <dumb1224> BenChapman: I can connect it and use it under XP <BenChapman> dumb1224: connect what? <dumb1224> oh sorry, I meant the hp m4345 printer on windows active directory, <dumb1224> I added and set it up but when I print it gave me NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED <BenChapman> Hmm, I have practically no experience with AD stuff :P sorry <dumb1224> thanks all the same, actually I just find out there's a webserver takes documents and send them to that printer, quite handy. <BenChapman> dumb1224: Heh, I found a company which had 20 printers open to the internet... <BenChapman> that was fun <dumb1224> hmmmm so why they do that? <tdr112> dumb1224: try page up key <dumb1224> tdr112: Thanks! <infoturtle> hello old room, it's been a while! <BenChapman> hello infoturtle <infoturtle> hello BenChapman, how have things been around here? Haven't been on in nearly 3 months <BenChapman> infoturtle: Well the 11.10 launch party was last week <BenChapman> but otherwise, I'm guessing pretty much as you left <slashtom> and the Ubuntu Hour is on Sunday <BenChapman> oh yeah, keep forgetting about that * slashtom will send an email in a few minutes <BenChapman> slashtom: Not moving to pearse st :( <BenChapman> looking at more places this evening <slashtom> oh well <slashtom> hopefully you will find something good <BenChapman> heh, this one is south william street. <BenChapman> not expecting much <BenChapman> :P <infoturtle> ah Ubuntu hours, I do miss those. we held an 11.10 show case in UL, to show it to people and let them try it, also did an install fest of 11.10 and other linux's <infoturtle> it's was fun, got 3 new people to install ubuntu <slashtom> list emailed.... hopefully this place will be more student friendly <terran> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUelXMHpAAM #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-21 <airurando> evening <delcoyote> evening airurando <airurando> hey delcoyote <airurando> are you based in Dublin and if so are you going to Ubuntu Hour on Subday? <airurando> who else (if anyone) is going to UH on Sunday. <moylan> will try and make it. no promises though. <delcoyote> working airurando <delcoyote> I wish I could go, I do have a tight tight agenda, missed also the Ocelot opening drinks at the Porterhouse... and i actually like it quite a lot that place <airurando> delcoyote: not to worry. Hopefully another UH will pop up in November. <airurando> moylan: I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. :) <delcoyote> time flies.... #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-24 <slashtommy> morning all, myself and the ebel had a lovely relaxed Ubuntu Hour <ebel> yarp. <ebel> no-one else turned up, alas. <ebel> But still, tis good to try new things etc. etc. <slashtommy> exactly, and we got out into town for lunch <BenChapman> Sorry guys :) <czajkowski> aww hugs <czajkowski> at least ye tried something new <slashtommy> twas fine, it was unfortunate timing for many peoples <moylan1> weather was... biblical unfortunately. still raining heavily now. hasn't stopped. <slashtommy> and we didn't mind, the cafÃ© is nice enough and ebel got a full irish <slashtommy> will try another one, maybe a saturday lunch time <slashtommy> maybe we could run another ubuntu hour after the CDs are received <slashtommy> does anyone know where they are going? <moylan1> i'd be game if it's a weekend i'm not gaming <slashtommy> i would like to do weekend, otherwise it's quite inconvenient if you don't happen to work in Dublin 2 <slashtommy> and most evening city-centre venues are either too busy or too shite <czajkowski> cds have started to be shipped since last week <czajkowski> so if ordered are due out soon to ireland <czajkowski> UK got theirs already <ebel> cool <slashtommy> ebel: are they coming to us? <ebel> yep <slashtommy> deadly, when they arrive will have to call another Ubuntu Hour <BenChapman> Hey does anyone here know anywhere that might be receptive to hosting CoderDojo for a few weeks? All we need is network access and a few tables/chairs. <BenChapman> Sadly our current space has no network connectivity since Oracle decided they were taking over one of the rooms we use <airurando> afternoon <slashtommy> hey airurando <slashtommy> BenChapman: shame that Tog cannot allow under 18s in <airurando> i slashtommy <airurando> slashtommy: sorry I didn't make in up yesterday <slashtommy> BenChapman: how much room do you require? <slashtommy> no worries, we had a nice lunch in town and ebel got a full irish :P <BenChapman> Pretty much just sorted a space in UCD <BenChapman> some hoops to jump through <BenChapman> but it should be good <slashtommy> good good <BenChapman> Thanks for the help though. :) <airurando> slashtommy: as you said. we should call another UH when the CDs are in. <airurando> we discussed this at the last meeting. <slashtommy> well, you did <slashtommy> i was busy drinking <airurando> groups should collect there CDs at a UH where possible. <airurando> aye you were! <airurando> :) <airurando> ebel is supposed to mail the list about the CDs <airurando> slashtommy: I got my network access bridge thingy worked out finally <slashtommy> good good <ebel> oh yeah <ebel> I'll do that this evening <BenChapman> slashtommy: enjoy your testing tomorrow :P <ebel> I think something is odd with the mailing list. It looks like I'm no longer a member and cannot post to the list <ebel> no, it turns out mailman is being silly <ebel> since I had the word "who" in it #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-25 <airurando> good evening ubuntu-ie <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> hows you airurando <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> good now. <airurando> congrats again <airurando> delighted for you. <czajkowski> thanks <slashtommy> aye, congrats czajkowski <czajkowski> thanks working for the h-online.com <tdr112> evening <airurando> evening tdr112 <czajkowski> heading to uds at the weekend <tdr112> where is it on <czajkowski> orlando <tdr112> i hope to do noting this long weekend , my last weekend was too busy <tdr112> airurando: i hope the sickness is all over in your house <tdr112> czajkowski: very nice <airurando> tdr112: Oisin is coming out the other end but Jackie is likely starting up. <airurando> could be around for some time :( <slashtommy> oh noes <slashtommy> tdr112: good job it's a long weekend! <airurando> with 12:04 being a loooonnnnnnnnggggggggg release I reckon special consideration should be given to the CDs we will get for that iteration. <czajkowski> and it being a 5 year lts now <airurando> aye <airurando> I've always believed that the LTSs are for the masses and the rest for the more geeky amongst us <airurando> extending Desktop LTS to five years support is great for those that have never installed an OS which is by far the majority <airurando> czajkowski: I reckon #RWCrants should morph into #rugby-rants for all things rugby between RWCs. <czajkowski> i do have #rugbyrants set up <czajkowski> it worked out lots of fun meeting people from all over the world <airurando> czajkowski thats good. sorry about being behind the cure on that one. <airurando> *curve <czajkowski> :) <airurando> goodnight #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-26 <czajkowski> morning folks <slashtommy> good morning <czajkowski> hows you? <czajkowski> is it still raining? <slashtommy> sunny with blue skies <ebel> only rained for 1 day <ebel> but it rained 1 months worth of rain in that day :) <czajkowski> aye the sister said she got drowned nearly going to blackhall <czajkowski> had to sit through 3 hrs of lectures <czajkowski> and get home again and the roads were very badly flooded <ebel> yeah <ebel> twas terrible lots and lots of water <czajkowski> heaidnt to orlando and tis rainging <ebel> orlando? Fancy pants <ebel> you going to some UDS type thingie? <czajkowski> yup <ebel> cool, have fun! <czajkowski> I will <czajkowski> queue lots of blogging #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-27 <ebel> I am really not liking the new ubuntu release <ebel> I just upgraded there yesterday <ebel> There is no typing break. â¹ #ubuntu-ie 2011-10-28 <czajkowski> ebel: typing break??? <ebel> yes..... (what's the question?) <ebel> I use a typing break (1 min every 10 mins), otherwise my arms/wrists get sore <ebel> Tisn't in gnome anymore â¹ nor unity â¹ <ebel> It may be required under S.I. 299 of 2007 to take a typing break (I amn't sure), and hence stock ubuntu may not be suitable for workplaces <czajkowski> hmmmm <czajkowski> let me go ask the Pendulum she knows these things <czajkowski> Pendulum: any ideas thoughts or heard of this in the ally team ? <Pendulum> hmm... <Pendulum> I don't know of thing off the top of my head <Pendulum> *anything <Pendulum> I'll look into it, though <czajkowski> Pendulum: thank you <Pendulum> ebel: what's worse for your arms/wrist mouse or keyboard? <ebel> depends. The equipment matters a lot, e.g. I have a fancy mouse ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/800.716.0984/ ) and fancy keyboard. <ebel> prolonged use of anything is bad. <ebel> I'm unsure if unity's 'full screen and no window bar' is good or bad from an RSI perspective (I'm guessing bad) <ebel> Since it's full screen & no window bar, I must move my hand off the mouse (& use alt-tab) to switch windows. I can no longer click on window bar. <ebel> So it'll probably be worse for my (left) wrist/arms. <ebel> To answer your question, in this case, keyboard is probably worse for my arms, if I don't take a regular break. <ebel> (although if I don't take breaks and use the mouse a lot that can hurt too.) <ebel> The typing break is also good to prevent RSI with your eyes. Since it's a regular reminder to focus on things that are far away, rather than only looking close for hours. This change in focus prevents eye strain. <ebel> This (requirement for regular eye breaks) is also covered under the law mentioned above (I think). <czajkowski> i've never heard that law inforced of used i the work place <ebel> (A lot of this is from EU law aswell, so would apply all over EU) <czajkowski> nods <ebel> czajkowski: oh yes, i had to look into it. <czajkowski> ebel: just wondered if this has been disucssed on any of the ally listws <czajkowski> lists <czajkowski> as i know many partially sighted people work in hse and never would take a break <ebel> i used to be in gnome, which i thought was cool, then gnome removed it. â¹ <czajkowski> ebel: seee if you blogged more and it was on planet ubuntu we;'d have known :p <ebel> :P Well I only upgraded the other day and was only playing around last night <czajkowski> ahhh <ebel> Ah there it is Â§72(1)(c) of S.I. â 299 of 2007. <ebel> " An employer, when providing display screen equipment for use by an employee at a workstation, shall â¦ plan the activities of the employer's employees in such a way that daily work on display screen equipment is periodically interrupted by breaks or changes of activity which reduce workload at the display screen," <ebel> may or may not apply to computers... <ebel> aaaaaanyway <ebel> There are a few other programmes for this, RSIBreak, workrave, etc. that i'll have to investigate * slashtommy uses it for eye rests <Pendulum> sorry, screen froze <Pendulum> ebel: I wonder if as a short-term thing to give yourself a break using Dasher or onBoard for things that can be done slower/non-programming? <Pendulum> it would at least give your hands a break from the keyboard occasionally <ebel> Unlikely, cause it would increase mouse usage, would not give my eyes a break, and unless there is a timer/enforced popup would not be used as much <ebel> Would also not give my upper arms a break, and would not give me a chance to strech the rest of my arms/shoulders. <Pendulum> yeah, I wasn't thinking long term. I was thinking more while looking for something else that worked for the break <ebel> I'm going to try some of the other programmes, rsibreak (urk kde), workrave, drwright, etc. <czajkowski> ebel: but good to know prior to uds <czajkowski> i'm sure other people use similar programs <czajkowski> and would like to know whats available in unity <ebel> I'm my own worst enemy and cannot be relied on
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