#ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-01 <C_Smith> *is hit with a bowling ball* FINLAND!!!! <C_Smith> hello <jvlb> Howdy. <C_Smith> wassup? <jvlb> Dunno. <C_Smith> just barely made it for the meeting, eh? <jvlb> Well, I guess that remains to be seen. <C_Smith> yeah, <C_Smith> I myself was helping print of directions to Puppetlabs, me not being familiar with portland (save for the route from Salem to OHSU) <C_Smith> none of the people here are. <C_Smith> sitting here watching tv waiting for people to start this thing. <jvlb> I would have expected bkerensa, since he sent out a reminder. <C_Smith> yeah, he may be running late. I myself am a newcomer here. <thefinn93> hey we're supposed to be having a meeting <C_Smith> do you use Pidgin? <C_Smith> yep <thefinn93> wow ok <thefinn93> i'm gonna call bkerensa <C_Smith> jvlb, do you use Pidgin? <thefinn93> ok then, went to Voice Mail <C_Smith> hmmmm, looks like something came up with him? <thefinn93> if he doesn't answer something soon i'm gonna post his number here we can all call it <jvlb> I'm using ChatZilla. <thefinn93> XChat FTW <jvlb> Hunh? <C_Smith> ah, cool, I myself am using Pidgin, all my IM and chats combined into one app. <thefinn93> I tried using Pidgin <thefinn93> for IRC <thefinn93> it was aweful <thefinn93> awful* <thefinn93> really slow <thefinn93> always locked up <thefinn93> then i found XChat <thefinn93> ohh kay he's not showing up <thefinn93> so i'm calling the meeting to order <thefinn93> I should probably have reviewed what i'm supposed to do <thefinn93> oh well <C_Smith> I have the agenda up in firefox now <thefinn93> as do I <C_Smith> cool <thefinn93> the agenda, for those that don't know, is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/11August31 <thefinn93> If you have any last minute additions please bring them up at the end <thefinn93> I'll leave time for that <thefinn93> Ok <thefinn93> Item #1 <thefinn93> Moving team meeting information to Loco.Ubuntu.com <thefinn93> it appears that ben moved the info to loco.ubuntu.com <thefinn93> or maybe he wants to? <thefinn93> i'm not reallys ure <thefinn93> thoughts on this? comments? suggestions? <C_Smith> I say the move, if it hasn't already happened, should <thefinn93> jvlb, any opinion? <C_Smith> if only for the sake of convenience. <jvlb> Tar baby don't say nothin' <thefinn93> alrighty <thefinn93> anyone else have anything to say? <thefinn93> there are 20 people in this channel <thefinn93> are 17 of them really idling? <C_Smith> it's not unheard of. <thefinn93> true <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> Item #2 <thefinn93> Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs <thefinn93> We're holding the Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs in Portland this Saturday <thefinn93> comments, questions, suggestions, etc? <C_Smith> on that subject, I have this to say, I'll be bringing a couple of packages of cookies. <thefinn93> cool <thefinn93> cookies are good <jvlb> Is there anyone from Salem wishing to carpool? <C_Smith> mainly because I haven't seen them brought up as being brought <C_Smith> I would offer to carpool if I had say in that, but I'm being drivin by my guests. <C_Smith> I have no car, nor license. <jvlb> I have a car and one empty seat. <C_Smith> let me see if I can get them to carpool <jvlb> No big. Just thought I throw that out. <thefinn93> that'd be cool. Carpooling is always good <thefinn93> if we do anything not in Portland I'll probably carpool there <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> do you wanna work out the car pooling thing? <C_Smith> ok, I have a maybe on the carpool, I can give you a yes or no later. <thefinn93> cool <C_Smith> we have to ask the driver who is driving us, and that's one we have to call. <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> everyone saw the swag that Ben sent a picture of out? <C_Smith> It'll likely be tomorrow you get an answer. <C_Smith> I saw it, that stuff looks sweet. <thefinn93> yeah <thefinn93> I've also got a box of various Ubuntu stuff <C_Smith> also, a question on that, <thefinn93> yes? <C_Smith> can I get some of that for my guests? <thefinn93> i don't see why not <C_Smith> cool <C_Smith> like I have said before, this is going to be one of the highlights of my weekend. <thefinn93> this is going to be the only thing happening over my weekend <thefinn93> :| <jvlb> Have we finished with item 2? <thefinn93> um <thefinn93> yes <thefinn93> Item #3 <thefinn93> Oneiric Release Party Planning <thefinn93> this is totally up to Ben <thefinn93> I'm not even gonna be there <thefinn93> so <jvlb> Call it a party and I'll show up. <thefinn93> does anyone have any ideas, suggestions, etc related to that <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> anything else? <C_Smith> I'll have to plan ahead for the release party, but if it's on a weekend, I should be able to make it. <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> alright <jvlb> Is it expected that it will be held at Puppet Labs. <thefinn93> I have no idea <C_Smith> I blame school for that restriction on my time <thefinn93> fair enough <thefinn93> jvlb, I know there was discussion of holding some of the release parties in different cities <jvlb> The Biblical 7-day week may be implicated, as well. <thefinn93> yep <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> Item #4 <thefinn93> Ubuntu Hour <jvlb> I'm in Salem; it's pretty different. <thefinn93> yeah <jvlb> What is Ubuntu Hour? <thefinn93> Good question <thefinn93> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour <thefinn93> that's what I know <thefinn93> I haven't heard anything about this <thefinn93> any thoughts? <bkerensa> hi all <bkerensa> :D <jvlb> Sounds a bit nebulous. <thefinn93> bkerensa, glad you could join us <bkerensa> Sorry for my tardiness.... I was talking to a realtor/solar company owner <bkerensa> :P <thefinn93> you're only 40 minutes late <thefinn93> ah * bkerensa slaps thefinn93 <bkerensa> ok so where are we? * thefinn93 demands that bkerensa explain Ubuntu Hour <C_Smith> I can, for one hour, give out Ubuntu CD I make (it'll be a limited amount) if that would count, I can also help other users with their Ubuntu troubles to the best of my ability <C_Smith> gotta love Lightscribe. <bkerensa> ok <C_Smith> I still would have to figure out where I would do this. <bkerensa> So Ubuntu Hour is a event that most locos hold <thefinn93> what does it entail? <bkerensa> its a social hour on a monthly basis that usually includes going to a bar/restaurant/cafe and socializing and talking linux <thefinn93> huh <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> cool <thefinn93> what did you have in mind for us? <bkerensa> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FHour&ei=4vBeTuDvH4_ViAKOvNTJDg&usg=AFQjCNF4eEN27l86bm-7RJRbvp9Bw_97Fw <C_Smith> well, if I were to attend, It would have to be from the Salem/Keizer area, I have no way to make it up to Portland for that, <jvlb> The description makes it sound a bit presentational, like for the broader public. <bkerensa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour <bkerensa> thats the wiki for Ubuntu Hour <thefinn93> yeah <bkerensa> C_Smith we will definately look at doing Ubuntu Hour's in Keizer/Salem if there is the demand <C_Smith> being as I am 19, I can't walk into a bar legally. <thefinn93> Same <thefinn93> well <thefinn93> 18 <bkerensa> C_Smith well we can go to a restaurant/bar <bkerensa> or even a cafe <bkerensa> its open to our loco's discretion where we hold it <C_Smith> if it helps, I could scope out places in Salem for that. <thefinn93> that'd be awesome <C_Smith> brb <C_Smith> darned dog <thefinn93> :D <C_Smith> too afraid to go out the doggy dorr <C_Smith> *door <thefinn93> alright, anything else on the Ubuntu Hour? <thefinn93> 3 <thefinn93> 2 <thefinn93> 1 <C_Smith> I'll scope out places tomorrow, It'll take me a while, but I should be able to find a place <thefinn93> cool <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> thanks <thefinn93> ok, last scheduled item <thefinn93> Finding a place in the Willamette Valley for members to hang out at (such as in Salem/Keizer) <bkerensa> C_Smith: I'm unsure if their are internet cafes in Keizer or Salem but that might be a place to start <thefinn93> i guess that's what we're talking about <thefinn93> lol <bkerensa> =o <C_Smith> also, we should revisit item 3 <C_Smith> I'll look for those. <thefinn93> yes, now the bkerensa showed up we should <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> Item #3, this time with bkerensa <thefinn93> Oneiric Release Party Planning <bkerensa> Yes <thefinn93> do tell <bkerensa> So I'm thinking we might have this at Backspace although if PuppetLabs were up to it we could do it there again depending on them <bkerensa> Backspace is nice but I have hit roadblocks making arrangements with them <thefinn93> what about theos? <thefinn93> that's where 2600 meets, it's right next door and much quieter <bkerensa> They always give me a generic response of "Uhh we have lots of concerts and e-mail us" I e-mail and they never respond <C_Smith> I'll have to plan ahead myself, but I'm looking forward to this, if Guests are welcome, I'll have 1-2 other people with me, <thefinn93> cool <bkerensa> I'm unsure if we want to meet at a spot that 2600 meets <bkerensa> jk <bkerensa> :) <thefinn93> it's not like we're gonna over lap <C_Smith> 2600? <thefinn93> http://2600.net/ <bkerensa> Theo's is definitely an option <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> glad to hear <C_Smith> hmmm, I remember seeing that logo somewhere. <thefinn93> yeah <thefinn93> it's a magezine <thefinn93> and monthly meeting <C_Smith> ok <thefinn93> and they all use ubuntu, so, again, no reason we can;t borrow their meeting place <C_Smith> true. <bkerensa> Lets revisit this Oneirc planning at Global Jam <bkerensa> that way I can ponder and we can make some calls <bkerensa> :D <C_Smith> cool, I'll be sure and try to be a part of that. <thefinn93> cool <bkerensa> I have one thing to note.... Finn how many ppl are you bringing? Can we count on any 2600 people? anyone else bringing guests? Also I thought there were five people here finn <C_Smith> and that way I can try and get some of my planning I need done <thefinn93> ok, do we want to discuss the Willamette Vally people meeting some more? <bkerensa> C_Smith: Could you make the Oneiric party if we did it in Portland this time? <C_Smith> I'm bringing probably 4 other people <bkerensa> thefinn93: We will defer on Willamette Valley so C_Smith can get leads <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> oh and I might bring one person <C_Smith> like I said, I would have to plan it out, but I'd like to make it there. so I'll do my best to make it. <thefinn93> she's not sure if she'll be available <bkerensa> thefinn93: Make it happen :) <thefinn93> working on it <C_Smith> but since it's so far in the future, I might have to say for sure at another time <C_Smith> but what day is it on? <bkerensa> In closing does anyone have any final questions for purposes of the meeting? <bkerensa> C_Smith: OCt 13 or so <C_Smith> k <bkerensa> Any final questions, comments or concerns? <bkerensa> Going once <bkerensa> Going twice <C_Smith> yeah, my foster parents don't plan 2 months ahead. <bkerensa> Sold to the Tux penguin walking out the door :) <thefinn93> wat <C_Smith> xD <thefinn93> ok </meeting> <C_Smith> moce * bkerensa hereby adjourns this meeting <C_Smith> good <jvlb> Ta. <bkerensa> feel free to talk :) <thefinn93> bkerensa: you gotta do notes this time <bkerensa> I encourage everyone to idle on IRC <thefinn93> cuz I actually showed up <bkerensa> thefinn93: I will <thefinn93> cool <C_Smith> I did have something that was really not that important. <bkerensa> later even <thefinn93> oh? <thefinn93> do tell <bkerensa> C_Smith: feel free to add <C_Smith> but might help other people, making something like a podcast for the team * bkerensa isnt gonna do meetings till late tonight so <bkerensa> C_Smith: Me and Finn are in the works of that.... It will be called Linuxified <bkerensa> Podcast/UStream even <C_Smith> cool <C_Smith> this would make it easier for members to stay up to date. <thefinn93> yeah <thefinn93> bkerensa, is this gonna be an official Ubuntu Oregon podcast? <bkerensa> Additionally... I'm working on getting a server for the loco for BNC so people can idle easier on irc here <thefinn93> cool <jvlb> So, did you hear what happened when Sarah Palin was told she needed to have a password with eight characters? <bkerensa> thefinn93: It will be a "friends of the loco" cast that way we can do what we choose versus CoC and other rules <thefinn93> ah <bkerensa> jvlb: She said Thomas Jefferson told her 4 was ok? <thefinn93> ok <jvlb> She got a puzzled look on her face, then blurted out, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs." <bkerensa> ;p <thefinn93> :D <jvlb> Good night, all. <C_Smith> when it IS made, please post a link on the wiki, and <C_Smith> and I would like to help there, but I'd need some teaching about Wiki editing. <thefinn93> oh i saw a good guide to that <thefinn93> wiki markdown <C_Smith> the only thing I did to edit the Wiki entries I did, was copy and paste and edit what was needed. <thefinn93> lemme find it <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> C_Smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page <C_Smith> thank you. that should help out a lot, if needed, using that, I might be able to help with the team Wiki page. can't say for sure, though <thefinn93> cool <C_Smith> just gimme a hollar if you need help with that, and I'll see if I'm feeling confident enough to try <thefinn93> we do <thefinn93> go for it <thefinn93> please <C_Smith> cool, I'll just need to know what needs to be edited ahead of time. <C_Smith> one thing I noticed that was outdated was the team meeting notice. <thefinn93> so update it <bkerensa> Ok guys I gotta run and fix a DOS printing issue... yes I said DOS <thefinn93> DOS <thefinn93> not Denial of Service <bkerensa> C_Smith: Will you be here in a hour or two I can go over the wiki with you then or sometime tomorrow even? <bkerensa> Finn give him my gtalk and FB info if he needs it <bkerensa> ttyl <thefinn93> ok <C_Smith> I'll likely be here for a few hours from now, I stay up at times until 11PM <thefinn93> alright <thefinn93> i'll be here until much too late <thefinn93> ie. 3am <C_Smith> meh, got an automessage and accidentally closed Pidgin. <C_Smith> gah, sound system went missing! <C_Smith> there's my sound. * bkerensa is back <C_Smith> hey, there. <C_Smith> had to restart several things..... including the whole system <C_Smith> oh, well, everything is working as it should be now! :D <C_Smith> also, I added you in my Email, G+ and Facebook in case you need to get a hang of me, Email so that Thunderbird won't junk it, which is unlikely anyway. <bkerensa> kk <C_Smith> also, you needed to talk to me about something? <bkerensa> as for wiki I wanna wait to after global jam so I can meet with finn friday to discuss a new structure <C_Smith> cool, well, let me know whenever, I'll be sure and have a notepad open when you tell me, curse my horrid memory. <C_Smith> is OSCON usually held around July? <bkerensa> yep <C_Smith> cool, I might have to go there next year, <C_Smith> I gotta get up early tomorrow, gotta go to an appointment that's not for me. <bkerensa> kk <C_Smith> so I'd better get off. <C_Smith> I'll try to find a WiFi cafe tomorrow, though. might do a bit of searching online tonight <C_Smith> have a nice night! * leguin.freenode.net changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Ubuntu Global Jam: Saturday, Sept 3rd, 2:00PM at PuppetLabs | Next IRC Meeting: Wednesday, August 31st, 7:00pm PDT, agenda is at http://j.mp/njHtzb - feel free to edit and add your own items | This channel is publicly emily84@example.com <C_Smith> g'day <thefinn93> g'day <thefinn93> want to send someone some lube? <thefinn93> http://www.wetsynergy.com/tryfree.php <thefinn93> they verify the email tho <C_Smith> ummm, no, that's okay. <thefinn93> lol <thefinn93> i sent some to a bunch of my friends <C_Smith> anyway, the reason I came on is a question regarding Oneiric, is the beta relatively safe to install, if I don't care about support? or should I wait for the stable release? <C_Smith> as you probably know, it went beta today. <thefinn93> oh <thefinn93> i wasn't actually aware that it went beta <thefinn93> i imagine it's safe to install <thefinn93> but i don't really know <thefinn93> i have a server in the basement running it <C_Smith> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/ubuntu-11-10-beta-released-reviewed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29&utm_content=FaceBook that <C_Smith> s where I read it. <C_Smith> OMG! Ubuntu has been a fairly reliable source for Ubuntu news. <thefinn93> yeah <C_Smith> but to be safe, I'll install it on a VM first. <thefinn93> alright <C_Smith> now for lunch <thefinn93> damn <thefinn93> no i386 server images <bkerensa> you can always upgrade and then downgrade <bkerensa> same install <C_Smith> hmmmm, well, either way, I'll install it in a VirtualBox (one of the reasons I always have the software handy) <C_Smith> meh, gotta go help someone move at around 3..... <C_Smith> hey, Ben, are you using the Beta? <tgm4883> Beta FTW <C_Smith> yeah, I'm looking into it myself, I'm gonna see how many programs I have installed via repos currently can be installed on Oneiric (Virtualbox will help a lot here) <C_Smith> doubt many of the PPAs I have are upgraded for it. <tgm4883> C_Smith, depending on the program, they may not need to be <C_Smith> cool <C_Smith> there'll likely be at least one, though, I have a lot of PPAs added. <tgm4883> really? what for? <C_Smith> almost all my software not included with Ubuntu is from a PPA, such as Super Boot Manager, Ubuntu Tweak, etc <C_Smith> and Cairo Dock <C_Smith> and a bunch more <C_Smith> I can easily get 2 lists of different PPAs list (excluding the default repos) in the default size of the list in the other software tab. <C_Smith> a lot of my stuff came from browsing Linoob.com and OMG! Ubuntu. <C_Smith> Jono has done it again! what a guy. http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/01/loco-team-portal-gets-blogging-support/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter <C_Smith> looks like this might be a good change. <tgm4883> Anyone know if the UDS sponsorship list has been sent out yet? <tgm4883> bkerensa, didn't you review an ideapad? <C_Smith> I've no clue. <C_Smith> and unfortunately for us in the LoCo team blog page, they need the team to be approved, and I don't believe we are.... <bkerensa> tgm4883: I have one but I probably wont review it for a month.... I got it for two months and got to many other things I gotta review <tgm4883> is that the 7 in for 199? <bkerensa> umm no <bkerensa> the one I got is $499 I think <tgm4883> ah <tgm4883> looking at the specs for the 7in, i'm not as excited as I once was <C_Smith> lol, Dane Cook <bkerensa> The one I have is epic nice <bkerensa> better than a iPad imho <C_Smith> bah, the beta doesn't have CDs.... <C_Smith> meh, might as well upgrade. <C_Smith> bah, the upgrade failed..... >.< <C_Smith> oh well, guess I'll wait. <tgm4883> C_Smith, the beta doesn't have CD's? <C_Smith> not on the beta page, the daily build page, does, though. <C_Smith> the Beta page only has DVD images, <tgm4883> C_Smith, where is the beta page? <tgm4883> I'm just looking at the Wiki and it seems fine there <C_Smith> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ <- the page I looked at. <C_Smith> what's the page you were looking at? <tgm4883> C_Smith, the non-dvd page <tgm4883> C_Smith, from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 <tgm4883> C_Smith, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ <C_Smith> k <C_Smith> yeah, that had the images I was looking for, <C_Smith> wow.... the upgrade manager finally worked. on the 3rd try <C_Smith> bkarensa, are you waiting for 11.10 to go stable, or are you using the new beta? <bkerensa> I use Natty not sure what im gonna do for oneiric <C_Smith> hmmmm, well, I'm gonna try installing Oneiric Beta 1, if it doesn't go well, I can always go back to Natty. <tgm4883> I use 11.10 with gnome 3 <C_Smith> I might have to do that myself, only one of the indicators I use (battery-status) works on Unity. <C_Smith> meh, my connection must not be as good as I thought, several hours to update. #ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-02 <C_Smith> if i made Ubuntu Natty disks, would the Jam be a good place to give a few out to guests who come? * bkerensa dances <bkerensa> \o/ <bkerensa> ./ <bkerensa> .\ <bkerensa> ./ <bkerensa> .\ <bkerensa> ./ <bkerensa> .\ <bkerensa> :0 <C_Smith> nice <C_Smith> bored? <bkerensa> nah was just celebrating all planning for Global Jam being done <bkerensa> it took almost a month <bkerensa> bdmurray: I'm getting epic amounts of rogue bugmail <bkerensa> :P <C_Smith> well, the upgrade failed, having to reinstall since the failed upgrade left me with a broken system. <C_Smith> Bkerensa, I won't be able to carpool, our ride will be full. <bkerensa> ? <bkerensa> Your not coming to the jam? <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> C_Smith: ? <C_Smith> I'm coming <C_Smith> I just can't carpool <bkerensa> =o So how will you be getting here? Still bringing friends? <C_Smith> yes <C_Smith> that's the reason I can't carpool, I'm coming, though. <bkerensa> oh ok <bkerensa> so the car is full and they are coming too your just come some other way <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> someone was in here earlier talking about offering a ride from salem to pdx and back <bkerensa> idk <C_Smith> yeah, pretty much <bkerensa> cool <C_Smith> and also, I asked earlier if, in the case I make Ubuntu CDs (in variants of Kubuntu and Ubuntu, all 32-bit), would it be a good idea to give some out? <C_Smith> they will have labels made with Lightscribe. <C_Smith> heck, I also have extra Linux Mint CDs from the times I used it, <bkerensa> If you want I think most people have USB's these days but I know shantorn had asked about CD's <C_Smith> yeah, I don't have nearly as big a supply of flash drives as I have of CDs <C_Smith> got 50 Lightscribe CDs for $20 ($10 a pack) <bkerensa> lol :P no people can bring their own <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> USB's <C_Smith> yeah, also, I've found, myself, that flash drives are more convenient, but 8GB is a bit excessive for a Ubuntu drive. XD <bkerensa> This is just a test! <bkerensa> !ops <lubotu1> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww! <bkerensa> uhh oh :P <C_Smith> xD <bkerensa> I dont think it does anything <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> since none of them are in the channel <C_Smith> still funny nonetheless. <bkerensa> actually not <bkerensa> it did alert people <bkerensa> ;( <C_Smith> wow..... not sure how. <bkerensa> I thought it just woke people in channel up <bkerensa> well the bot is in other channels so it alerted in the #ubuntu-irc <C_Smith> hmmmm, well, when they come, you can just explain it was a mistake while trying to learn commands, right? <bkerensa> Well I figured it worked based on who had chanops <bkerensa> so I figured it would just wake me and finn so yeah <C_Smith> well, back to installing <bkerensa> Kitty- you coming tomorrow? * bkerensa is editing some posters in inkscape <bkerensa> YAY <C_Smith> good mornin <bkerensa> Hi <bkerensa> Good Morning <dgibbons> bkerensa: I've heard a rumor hypodermia is trying to get out of going by "not being able to get there" <dgibbons> !!! <bkerensa> dgibbons: :( <bkerensa> hypodermia! <C_Smith> ah, finally got things working! most of my backed up hidden files prevented my apps from working. <bkerensa> Hmmm my black ink has been blinking for a month now its not.... <C_Smith> strange. <C_Smith> I know someone who is out of ink completely, no color nor black, <dgibbons> I haven't owned a printer in years <bkerensa> Pizza is order.... Pizzacato! <hypodermia> bkerensa: dgibbons saved me from that fate fortunately <bkerensa> hypodermia: Which fate? <hypodermia> bkerensa: the fate of missing our on our glorious jam <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> good good... Please take swag :P <hypodermia> oh i intend to, my friend. <bkerensa> I literally have to break swag down into three people taking it <hypodermia> hahaha <bkerensa> I'm bring half downtown today <hypodermia> please tell me there's totes <bkerensa> the rest tomorrow <bkerensa> =o <hypodermia> i could use a good totes <hypodermia> tote* <bkerensa> No totes :P bring a backpack or something :D <hypodermia> damn <hypodermia> i don't have one :( <hypodermia> i have like no bags of any kind <bkerensa> Hmm I will check at the store today <bkerensa> and see if I can find some vinyl bags <hypodermia> well you don't have to *buy* anything. i just need to probably borrow something to take my computer in. i moved here from Georgia, and things like bags didn't make the journey. <bkerensa> Georgia :D <hypodermia> are you from Georgia? <bkerensa> Someone tried to get me to move there once <hypodermia> hahahaha. you didn't. good move. <bkerensa> Pretty much bribed me <bkerensa> He was like come stay at my house... You will love the southern girls <hypodermia> the southern girls are very meh <bkerensa> and then a thought bubble occured and I was like ahhh not so much <hypodermia> where in Georgia? that makes a huge difference <bkerensa> Man.... From now on when I order Pizza I need to ask for catering.... Papa Johns scalps me.... cost me like $40 to get pizza, soda and wings <bkerensa> Umm Marietta? <bkerensa> is it nice there? <hypodermia> bkerensa: it's suburby, but most of atlanta is. i went to college there. that's on the north side, where most of the middle class and upper middle class lives. you would've been living in suburban sprawl but otherwise okay <hypodermia> well, i went to college *near* there. for a semester. <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> are you from Georgia? <C_Smith> I myself am going to enjoy the jam <C_Smith> I myself am a native Minnesotan. <bkerensa> Yeah you betcha gee golly <hypodermia> bkerensa: i am <C_Smith> my mother went from a decent laptop (the exact same model I've been using for a couple years, a Compaq Presario CQ60-420US, which has outlasted hers,) to a junk laptop from Walmart. <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> all laptops are junk :) they are all made in asia <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> I want a Toughbook.... A week after I bought a new laptop from dell I dropped it from 3ft onto concrete somehow it survived with no damage at all not even a scratch <hypodermia> i want a macbook pro :3 <C_Smith> xD true dat, but the laptop she bought, well let's just say the only decent thing about it is it has a webcam. <C_Smith> desktops ftw! <bkerensa> :P * bkerensa will not comment on Mac users <C_Smith> now back to ubuntu tweak. <C_Smith> an imo, macs are overpriced, <C_Smith> The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword looks like it will be a good gam <C_Smith> *game <C_Smith> Bkerensa, is there a good online PC shop you could recommend for part so I can build a desktop PC? <bkerensa> Newegg.com? <C_Smith> ok, I was thinking the same, wanted to get an opinion. <bkerensa> But <bkerensa> Fry's in Wilsonville is cheaper <C_Smith> yes? <bkerensa> and they do online price match of any retailer <C_Smith> ah, I'd forgotten about that. <bkerensa> I go there a few times a month for ram, fans etc <bkerensa> bbl <C_Smith> cya. <bkerensa> !bleachbit <C_Smith1> not sure what that's supposed to do..... <bkerensa> Man we got people coming from Seattle tomorrow to the global jam :D now if we could just get shirgall to come <shirgall> bkerensa: next you'll want me to fix bugs instead of filing them <bkerensa> shirgall: I just want you to come in general :) everyone is gonna be like oh nobody from Canonical came <bkerensa> shirgall: Can I bribe you by telling you you will leave with a stomach full of Pizzacato and swag :) <shirgall> bkerensa: I can't eat cheese :) <bkerensa> ok we will have a veggie platter <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> you tell me why you cant come and I will tell you why you can :D * bkerensa has to head downtown bbl people <C_Smith1> after idling for who knows how long installing stuff including xbmc and browsing teh interwebz, I is back! <C_Smith1> wtf? how the heck am I one twice? brb <C_Smith> there we go <C_Smith> so, how is everyone? <bkerensa> :D * bkerensa just got back from having lunch with Finn <C_Smith> bkerensa, what was the link to for the picture of the stuff being given away? I have a friend who is coming who wants a picture of it. <C_Smith> I myself don't have it in my cache since that upgrade failed. <C_Smith> there's a 2-3 day gap between when my last backup was and the failed upgrade, which the upgrade was after the last backup. <bkerensa> lol * bkerensa has no idea * bkerensa reuploads thats just some of it <C_Smith> lol, well, guess I'll try diving into firefox's history again. <bkerensa> http://imgur.com/SuiVM <bkerensa> there it is <bkerensa> C_Smith <bkerensa> :D <C_Smith> thanks <C_Smith> sorry, was delving deep into my browsing history from firefox. <C_Smith> also, have you heard of those chargers you can turn off the flow of power to the laptop with a button? #ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-03 <C_Smith> is it acceptable to sign my emails to the Mailing list with gpg signatures since I have Enigmail set to do that? or should I keep setting those emails to not sign them? <thefinn93> sure <thefinn93> sign 'em! <thefinn93> sign everything <thefinn93> i should set up thunderbird and everything <C_Smith> cool, makes sending emails a bit easier on my part, as I sign all my other emails with my key <thefinn93> get it all working <thefinn93> ah <thefinn93> ok <C_Smith> it's fairly easy to set up Thunderbird, though I had to get my gpg executable installed from source as Enigmail wasn't detecting the default one properly,w <thefinn93> yeah i had that problem <thefinn93> then i realized i really liked my webmail interface <C_Smith> I haven't used Webmail since Thunderbird started supporting Hotmail out of the box. <C_Smith> before it did, I needed to install Webmail before Thunderbird would even detect Hotmail. that was back in about '07, which was when I first used Thunderbird. <C_Smith> do we used the mailing list on emily84@example.com? <C_Smith> it's slightly different than the one I have, and I believe it might be an old one. <thefinn93> yeah i think that one is correct <C_Smith> hmmm, so i'll just subscribe to it, too, can't hurt. <thefinn93> ok <thefinn93> did you get the correction i just sent out? <thefinn93> if so, you're good <thefinn93> otherwise, wrong list <C_Smith> hmmm, looks like I'm already subscribed <thefinn93> ok <C_Smith> but I didn't get the change. but my email sometimes takes a couple minutes. <C_Smith> oh, wait, I was looking for Ben's name, and not yours, finn! I got THAT update. <C_Smith> question: is it a good idea to have a backup battery for a laptop? <C_Smith> thefinn93, Puppetlabs has 3 pronged electrical outlets, right? the reason I ask is some buildings we built with only 2 pronged outlets, and I have to use an adapter for those. <thefinn93> yeah <thefinn93> they've got tons of fancy macs <C_Smith> cool <thefinn93> yep <C_Smith> I'll be bringing my laptop, anyway, plus my spare battery anyway. <C_Smith> well, I'd better be off, getting sleepy. * C_Smith goes off to sleep, will see you all tomorrow. <bkerensa> =o * bkerensa is finishing up planning for global jam tomorrow <hypodermia> bkerensa: exciting. what do i wear? <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> idk whatever you feel comfortable in :) its the weekend afterall hypodermia <hypodermia> lol <hypodermia> that's always the first thing i think, unfortunately <hypodermia> i'm not too worried about it * bkerensa is just gonna wear a tech shirt of some sort and jeans <bkerensa> :D <hypodermia> i would wear a google shirt from 2004, but i hear i might obtain a NEW google shirt today <bkerensa> hypodermia: Actually Google failed on us..... Apparently they ran low so we wont even have shirts maybe for another two weeks from them but if your after shirts many we have :D <hypodermia> damn. <bkerensa> I was pretty disappointed even <hypodermia> ah well. i have a vintage google shirt. i'm not too worried. <bkerensa> I was thinking to myself.... (this is google the largest tech company on the west coast) <hypodermia> btw you or anybody else here want a google music invite? <bkerensa> I have had it for a few months now I think like 4 <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> I use UbuntuOne and Spotify <bkerensa> but maybe someone on our mailing list.... We share things there <hypodermia> mailing list eh <hypodermia> sounds fancy <rigel> publicly logged, so i guess saying "loldongs" every 30 seconds would be frowned on? <thefinn93> yes, yes it would <thefinn93> however, we have #ubuntu-us-or-offtopic for whatever you want <thefinn93> however if you spam "loldongs" every 30 seconds i'm gonna ban you fast <rigel> cool. just testing the waters and whatnot <tgm4883> Just arrived at puppetlabs <bkerensa_> dgibbons and hypodermia were waiting on u guys :) <hypodermia> bkerensa: present and accounted for etc <hypodermia> whoo irc and nerds <Brian_H> lol <hypodermia> i'm at this uhhh <hypodermia> ubuntu global jam thing <hypodermia> and ignoring people irl <tgm4883> hypodermia, as am I <hypodermia> tgm4883: disregard nerds, acquire pizza <hypodermia> i guess i should be more gung-ho, technically i'm here on behalf of a sponsor <tgm4883> hypodermia, ah, which sponsor <hypodermia> tgm4883: rentrak. where are you? <tgm4883> On the couch in the back <hypodermia> i'm on the couch up front near the projector eating like a slob #ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-04 <C_Smith> thefinn, what was the link to the Beta 1 images of Oneiric Ocelot? the reason I asked is because the bootable USB setup you created gave me an error upon startup about a configuration not being found, an error I can usually remedy by using Unetbootin, <C_Smith> never mind, I found it <bkerensa|mobile> headed home <bkerensa> Hey guys I have to go run errands but I wanna debrief with you guys when I get backs. Thanks to everyone who attended and made this a good event.... Lots of people told me it was really enjoyable <Brian_H> heck yea I had a good time :) <bkerensa> :D * bkerensa just got home <bkerensa> long day * bkerensa is gonna upload video from the event soon <Brian_H> yea I can imagine, setting up one of those events takes a lot of effort I'm sure :) <bkerensa> Brian_H: I'm sure a convention takes more time but I put probably a handful of hours over four weeks just making calls and sending e-mails etc <Brian_H> it adds up thats for sure :) <bkerensa> Global Jam Video: http://youtu.be/acLkfmecTTs <notfinn> wow i need to update the topic when i get on a nilormal comouteer <notfinn> thefinn93, do that. or bkerensa <MarkDude> Morning Oregon <C_Smith> g'day! :D * thefinn93 changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next meeting is Friday, September 30th, 7:00pm PST | This channel is publicly emily84@example.com #ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-05 <bkerensa> hi * bkerensa is listening to: Lil' Kim - Notorious Kim - How Many Licks (feat. Sisqo) - (0:35/3:52) <bkerensa> hmm perl though <wonton> I'm a wonton <wonton> thefinn93: Do you like Wonton Soup? <thefinn93> what? <thefinn93> oh <wonton> thefinn93: Do you like Wonton Soup? <thefinn93> no <wonton> thefinn93: Why? <wonton> :D <Brian_H> anyone here familiar with using ldap and sss for caching credentials? <tgm4883> Brian_H, not I, although I've been looking at setting up LDAP at my home and having a way for my laptops to still work while away <Brian_H> it works :) <Brian_H> I just have an odd issue, where I can't shutdown properly <Brian_H> I have ipsec to work from home so after kde fires up the networking I can get connected (sss works) <Brian_H> but when I go to shutdown, I think whats happening is networking is going away and sss doesn't know how to handle it very well so it just sits there at a black screen with a cursor <Brian_H> I can shutdown right as a regular, non-sss, user. just not as an ldap user :/ <Brian_H> kind of a tricky issue to troubleshoot <bkerensa> Brian_H: I got word back from Council on Banner + Logo thing so I'm gonna shoot you a e-mail <Brian_H> OK cool I'm pretty sure we can help :) #ubuntu-us-or 2011-09-06 <Brian_H> bkerensa: where is your blog/review of tech products posted? <Gerty_> Just moved to Eugene. Can anyone recommend an ISP? <tgm4883> Gerty_, IDK, Comcast? I could ask at work tomorrow <Gerty_> I feel like every time I move to a new place, people say "IDK, Comcast/TimeWarner/Verizon?" Just thought I'd put it out there and see if there's any locally ones and zeroes. Artisinal ones and zeroes. You know. Organic. <tgm4883> Gerty_, I'll agree with that, but there isn't usually a lot of variety in ISP's these days <tgm4883> Maybe in some of the smaller towns where they rolled out fibre, but I doubt in Eugene <bkerensa> Brian_H: http://technorati.com/technology/gadgets <bkerensa> Brian_H: I will likely be trying to write for someone else in the future... Technorati imho is headed to a obsolete future * bkerensa has also contributed to IntenseBlog and BlogCritics (Also owned by Technorati Media) <bkerensa> tgm4883: I think Eugene might be Charter <tgm4883> bkerensa, could be <bkerensa> My grandmother is in Coos Bay and all they have is Comcast <bkerensa> and Frontier <bkerensa> got me a new tripod for my flipcam today :D <C_Smith> good evening. <bkerensa> Hi C_Smith <bkerensa> C_Smith: Did you enjoy the jam? I know you took some pics for flickr <C_Smith> yes, I enjoyed it very much, I just have to find my MicroSD card so I can get the pics off of my cell phone and onto my PC and ultimately to Flicker. <C_Smith> bkerensa, did you get my last message? <bkerensa> C_Smith: No? <C_Smith> "yes, I enjoyed it very much, I just have to find my MicroSD card so I can get the pics off of my cell phone and onto my PC and ultimately to Flicker." <bkerensa> cool <bkerensa> how many pics did you get? <C_Smith> about 5 I wanna say, but that may be wrong. <bkerensa> cool <bkerensa> my photos are up on flickr.com/bkerensa <C_Smith> doing some last minute configurations to Ubuntu before I head to bed, ugh, school tomorrow. <bkerensa> oh yeah summer is over :) <C_Smith> that it is. <C_Smith> so, the fact that we're not an approved team is due to what, again? <C_Smith> well, I'd better be off, cya <bkerensa> C_Smith: We just need to do a bit more work :) <Kitty-> hey <bkerensa> hmm <bkerensa> I'm giving Oneiric (Unity) a two week trial period... I tried Alpha and didnt much care for Unity so we will see <bkerensa> =/ <bkerensa> Gnome FTW <bkerensa> Hmmm Unity borked Rythmbox <shantorn> good morning <bdmurray> bkerensa: if you give me some more details I might be able to sort out where your bug mail is coming from <C_Smith> g'day <bkerensa> bdmurray: I found out it was because of my doc team membership <Brian_H> morning <bdmurray> bkerensa: okay cool. How as the Jam? <bkerensa> bdmurray: Pretty fun... Good turnout so far I think it was the biggest Jam in the U.S. ;) maybe we can get you to make an appearance at a Ubuntu Hour sometime? * bkerensa will buy your first drink <bkerensa> :D <bdmurray> Ah an Ubuntu Hour would be good! <bkerensa> bdmurray: Your out in Washington County or Multnomah? I was talking to Brian_H about possibly doing one out near Beaverton sometime <bkerensa> We will be having a Ubuntu Hour and Release Party in October <bdmurray> bkerensa: Actually I'm in Camas now <Brian_H> I'll show up :) <bkerensa> bdmurray: So your downstream from shirgall ;) * bkerensa needs to go to Washington someday..... I wanna plan a trip to Seattle soon plus I will be going to LinuxFestNW next year <shirgall> bkerensa: No, he's upstream <shirgall> shirgall: Camas is upstream from Vancouver, I'm downstream from it <shirgall> shirgall: And now I'm talking to myself, whee <bdmurray> The stream being a big river in this case <bkerensa> Indeed * bkerensa looked at the Google Maps upside down <bdmurray> Anyway Beaverton would be challenging but downtown isn't so bad <shirgall> bkerensa: For us, the bridge traffic must always be considered <bkerensa> bdmurray: Downtown is preferred for me <bkerensa> shirgall: Indeed <shirgall> bkerensa: Even meeting at Jantzen Beach can be... challenging when the bridge is not cooperating <bkerensa> shirgall: Hmm never been to WA at all ;) <shirgall> bkerensa: It's like Portland with no income tax and better roads <bkerensa> shirgall: Anything is a improvement on Portland words.... Its like medieval down here at times <shirgall> bkerensa: Of course I'm way out in farmland, way outside the urban growth boundary <shirgall> bkerensa: I usered to live and work downtown 8 years ago, I remember. <bkerensa> shirgall: So essentially the gig is living in Washington (Pay no income tax) then do all your shopping or a majority of it in Oregon (No Sales Tax)? <shirgall> bkerensa: I admit I do most of my emily84@example.com, and I do end up paying sales tax <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> shirgall: you must buy a lot of stuff on Amazon? I think Fred Meyer gets a bulk of my shopping :P <shirgall> bkerensa: And there's this truck that comes around every two weeks from Schwann's for groceries. <bkerensa> I hate those guys :P <shirgall> bkerensa: My Fred Meyer is 20 minutes away <bkerensa> shirgall: They come here too along with some other truck that slings expensive chicken <shirgall> bkerensa: I have a FM 20 minutes one direction and a Walmart 20 minutes the other direction <shirgall> bkerensa: Omaha Steaks? I don't do them, I buy from a local butcher with local animals <bdmurray> shirgall: what butcher? <bkerensa> shirgall: Nah.... Its some other meat slinger they charged me $40 for 5 chicken breasts <shirgall> bdmurray: There's one in Ridgefield <shirgall> bdmurray: I usually go in on half a steer or something like that every 6 months or so <shirgall> bkerensa: wow, that's way out there <shirgall> bkerensa: were they gold-plated chickens/ <C_Smith> so, why is the team not official, again? I've forgotten, darn my poor memory <bkerensa> C_Smith: Because we have yet to jump through the neccesary process <bkerensa> C_Smith: We are an official LoCo.... Just not "Approved" <C_Smith> ah, ok, I was thinking it was part of the effects of the failed merge of us, Washington and California. <C_Smith> and Approved is what I meant, got the 2 confused. XD <bkerensa> C_Smith: There is only really one benefit to approval and that is printed cd's each release cycle <C_Smith> ah, ok <C_Smith> anyway, like I have said, whenever someone can get me what needs to be edited on the team's wiki, I can get started on that. <bkerensa> C_Smith: Kinda like Ubuntu Membership its not about perks or gain just a process to signify your making a contribution.... I think they might add more incentive in the future based on some discussions I have seen but who knows <C_Smith> ah, I see. <bkerensa> C_Smith: I will pm you in a second <C_Smith> cool <bkerensa> C_Smith: I will probably apply for approval in October though right around the same time I apply for membership <C_Smith> cool <bkerensa> bdmurray: So sad the new bug-indicator obviously doesnt work in Unity ;) <C_Smith> also, if anyone needs it, I can make a 11.10 CD, although CDs are kinda outdated. <shirgall> bkerensa: which one is that one? I don't have any lp-related indicators <C_Smith> Bkerensa, are you talking about an Apport applet? <shirgall> I admit that I add the indicator-weather and indicator-cpufreq :) <bkerensa> shirgall: Umm some gnome applet Jono posted about a day or two ago <bkerensa> I just upgraded to Oneiric and am trying to adjust =/ <bkerensa> shirgall: How do I add indicators in Unity? I added some via ppa and apt-get install but can figure out how to actually add <shirgall> bkerensa: I upgraded to Oneiric on my main machine over the weekend too <shirgall> bkerensa: Alt-F2 and search for indicator to run it, once you run them they often get added to startup applications <bkerensa> kk <C_Smith> I add the battery applet to Unity in 11.04 just by running a command (can't remember what it was), this is not the GNOME battery Applet (which is useless in 11.04 and backwards) this is Battery-status I'm talking about. I run it from a library it installs in /usr/lib and adding --indicator, not sure if other applets work in a similar manner. <C_Smith> holy great wall of text, batman! <bkerensa> shirgall: I wish they would make a Unity panel or somehow let me make this bar smaller and drag is elsewhere <shirgall> bkerensa: which bar? <shirgall> shirgall: the one on top? <bkerensa> The Unity Bar <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> Sidebar <shirgall> it's almost always hidden when I do things <bkerensa> yeah but I would like it at bottom of screen like a dock instead of on the side constantly wiggling <bkerensa> :P <shirgall> Why is it constantly wiggling? <shirgall> Shouldn't wiggle unless you get near <bkerensa> Xchat activity <bkerensa> ;) <shirgall> I admit I use irssi in a maximum terminator window w/bybou so I don't see that <bkerensa> better yet why couldnt a working version of gnome fallback be provided :) <shirgall> That stuff isn't up to me, I'm an old fvwm fan :) <bkerensa> Who is it up to? Surely not the community at large ;) I don't remember being presented with a survey :P <shirgall> bkerensa: it was discussed at UDS <bkerensa> peh :P <C_Smith> I use Pidgin for IRC, MSN and Xfire. <bkerensa> A small fraction of the Ubuntu Community attends UDS :P <shirgall> bkerensa: and besides, there's many fallbacks <bkerensa> yeah <bkerensa> xfce <bkerensa> ;) <bkerensa> kde is not an option for me <shirgall> bkerensa: There are many ways to attend, in person, via IRC+soundcast, and the communities have several ways of handling feedback <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> oh I had no idea they did soundcast and irc <C_Smith> KDE for me crashes too much, literally every 5-30 minutes. especially when I'm using Wine. <shirgall> xfce, fvwm, unity-2d, gnome3 will be working soon enough... <shirgall> I haven't played with kde, or wine, in a long time <bkerensa> shirgall: Why would Canonical ship me a package and not even let me know what it is? I'm assuming its a Conference Kit since I requested one but mind you I requested it after 7pm on a Thursday and the next morning got a UPS e-mail saying it had been shipped <bkerensa> so my assumption is it is a conf kit but perhaps Mark S sent me a petite lap giraffe <bkerensa> :D <shirgall> bkerensa: I have no way to know <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> Canonical is a mystery to me :P you all work remotely and send packages in clandestine manner :P <bkerensa> well it should be here within the hour so I guess I'll find out <shirgall> bkerensa: Run silent, run deep <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> shirgall: You seen the Raspberrypi's? I'm on a list to get one in November <shirgall> bkerensa: I haven't played with one <C_Smith> I've seen the Raspberry Pi's. interesting piece of machinery. <C_Smith> although I'm not exactly sure what it's for. <bkerensa> C_Smith: Its a computer ;) <bkerensa> C_Smith: You can run Ubuntu on one <shirgall> bkerensa: Got pandaboards for that :) <shirgall> Still, at 1/5 the price, it's an interesting item <shirgall> bkerensa: What I prefer about that OMAP4-based board is that it has a full complement of ports... HDMI, USB, Ethernet... <C_Smith> Bkerensa, then that's a small PC. <shirgall> bkerensa: Hrm, Broadcom BCM2835 I haven't played with yety <shirgall> C_Smith: If by small you mean "USB key sized" :) <C_Smith> yep, and that's a tiny PC compared even to Netbooks. <shirgall> C_Smith: yeah, the pandaboard is about 6"x6"x2" <C_Smith> you'd still probably need a monitor, though. <C_Smith> most TVs will serve that purpose well, though. <bkerensa> Well the box from Canonical arrived its lanyards and stickers galore to give out at puppetconf <bkerensa> but no CD's? Weird I thought were supposed to get 75 <bkerensa> oh wait I gotta order those via http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ but shipit is down <C_Smith> bkerensa, with 11.04, Canonical said they are discontinuing Shipit. <bkerensa> C_Smith: Thats only for end users <bkerensa> ;) <C_Smith> ah, I see. <bkerensa> LoCo Leads are still able to use it for conf cd's <C_Smith> is Cloud computing really all it's cracked up to be? <shirgall> C_Smith: Depends on what you want to do with it <bkerensa> C_Smith: I take that back apparently Canonical doesnt do CD's at all for unapproved teams anymore and just forgot to update the wiki covering this :P but Approved teams can request CD's for conferences and once a release cycle. <C_Smith> well, apparently Banshee transfers MP4 Videos just fine, but not .M4V videos..... is there a good converter for .M4V to .MP4? <thefinn93> VLC <C_Smith> VLC converts? <thefinn93> yes <C_Smith> hmmmm, never knew it could, and I've used it quite a bit for playing videos. <thefinn93> Media -> Convert/Save <shirgall> C_Smith: ffmpeg is good
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