#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-03
<Ahmuck> is there a way to remove or reset the "keyring" in ubuntu
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-04
<sille777> good evening all
<mrand> Howdy
<mrand> Ahmuck: google seems to imply yes
<sille777> anyone else get the desktopcouch crash messages?
<stlsaint> sille777: sup
<stlsaint> nope
<sille777> not much
<mrand> This video is funny: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/video-barbie-in-fbi-crosshairs
<sille777> just wodering why desktopcouch crashes .... Dont even know what it is or does...I think its part of evolution but i dont even use it
<mrand> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch
<sille777> hmmmm....
<sille777> since i really dont use ubuntu one or evolution on this computer maybe if i remove them from the startup applications...
<sille777> this will make the issue go away
<sille777> bbl
<sille777> desktopcouch-service still crashes right after startup and i load a browser window
<stlsaint> ping
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-07
<Linden940> whats up texas? anything good?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-08
<Linden940> anyone else having long boot times?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-09
<marc-us> Howdy!
<mrand> Howdy marc.
<mrand> (not talking to/about myself)
<marc-us> howdy mrand
<marc-us> I was away for a while
<mrand> I'm away all the time.
<mrand> Or not
<marc-us> excellent
<marc-us> Most excelent
<mrand> I should probably be away more than I am.
<mrand> I spend too much time in front of the computer.
<marc-us> That's not bad if it's sent playing Spring TA or warzone
<mrand> I don't play games.
<mrand> Well, except go
<marc-us> Ah, that's rather serious.  We have to cure that
<mrand> I don't have time to cure that
<mrand> Need to do all sorts of stuff to the house.  And the cars.  And the wife
<marc-us> Just take this pill twice a day
<mrand> Does it give me more productive hours in the day?
<mrand> Or increase my size by 93%?
<marc-us> Sounds like the average american household
<mrand> Well, most American's don't know what Go is, so maybe not.
<marc-us> ancient game
<marc-us> predates America
<marc-us> Played on the pangean continent
<mrand> heh indeed.  Ancient, simple game that takes a lifetime to master
<marc-us> with dinosaurs as the first competitors
<marc-us> marsupials beat them into extinction
<marc-us> and now we have ipads to play go
<mrand> or maybe marsupials  just kept their head lower
<marc-us> Giant leaping marsupials of the pangean continent created the original tectonic movements which seperated the land masses
<marc-us> They fell into the lava filled lava trenches..  Por things
<mrand> I want to know how dinosaurs kept their email straight.  If you're around for 100 years, your inbox surely got larger than mine, which is over 7k, and it's sometimes impossible to find things
<marc-us> Well, their pea sized brains had co-processors at the base of their tails  just behind the heat sinks
<marc-us> True, your comment on finding time.
<marc-us> Its bad in my house as I am the only driver.
<marc-us> So, I'm Mr. Chauffer
<marc-us> as soon as I return from work, I'm driving everyone on their errands
<marc-us> I've got the wife to get her learner's permit but it's not going as fast as I would hope
<marc-us> the only spare moment I get is, early saturday and sunday mornings before 10 am to myself
<mrand> hahah
<mrand> is  your wife just turning 16?  Or foreign?
<marc-us> not of this earth
<mrand> Serious bucks to be made there
<marc-us> No, in reality she just spends them (bucks)
<marc-us> Only one income for the moment until at least all three kids are in school
<marc-us> then the driving and working will become easier for us to take care of
<mrand> three kids.  *shudder*
<mrand> my co-workers have three kids
<mrand> I have one, and she keeps us very busy
<mrand> chauffer, social director, chef, etc.
<marc-us> Yeah, but well worth it.  I may be poor in funds but that is soon forotten when I walk through the door to a set of excited kids racing to give me the first hug
<marc-us> Hah, ha!  My kids have a more filled social calendar than I
<mrand> Indeed. Wife and I try to have one, but even then, we have to find something else for the kid to do.
<marc-us> Ah, such is life
<marc-us> who knew that getting a chance alone to simply eat dinner ALONE would be a rare and delicious treat.  Thank god for grand parents
<marc-us> Perhaps why some marriages fail.  Not enough time for the parents to be a couple
<mrand> I'm sure.   We try to go out to do more than just dinner, so it's 3 or 4 hours baby sitting, over sleeping overnight at a friends.
<marc-us> So, we have schedule anything ranging from dinner out together to watching a DVD together.
<marc-us> Yeah, not so easy.  But then again, well worth it.
<mrand> we have no fmaily in town.
<marc-us> If it were not for my mother-in-law, we would be lost.
<marc-us> however my parents are not the most helpful.  They are just too old to care for kids in age ranges as my children
<mrand> we are trying to not be lost
<marc-us> gotta run for a bit but will stay connected
<mrand> have fun
<marc-us> Fun?  At work?  well, a little ...
<mrand> I try to.  Course, there is only so much fun you can extract from sorting thousands of emails
<marc-us> a small terminal slowly comes into focus
<marc-us> and... I'm back
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-18
<sprung> hello Linden940
<sprung> i almost became your coworker if you are Linden Labs
<sprung> i am a Racker
<Linden940> lol
<Linden940> no i am not linden labs
<Linden940> i do own a company tho
<spridel> sprung: where in TX are you a racker?
<sprung> spridel, San Antonio
<spridel> I'm in Austin and just applied to a position up here
<sprung> spridel, thats excellent
 * spridel hopes to not get the standard Rackspace reject letter
<sprung> there's a standard rackspace reject?
<sprung> i let them know i was a racker and i just needed to be officially be called one
<sprung> the fanatical support is not just a slogan
<sprung> it's how they do everything
<sprung> and yeah, really, it's not just a job, you're a fanatic
<spridel> yep, "Thank you, your skills and abilities are impressive, however we have chosen to pursue more closely qualified applicants."
<spridel> I've seen it 2x, hoping this is the one that gets me an interview
<sprung> basically, we're not a job, we're a lifestyle
<sprung> if you're going to need to be here 20 hours to fix a problem you're going to do it, voluntarily
<sprung> because you need to and because this is what you want to do
<spridel> What function are you in?
<sprung> not that 20 hours ever happens
<sprung> thats just an extreme example
<sprung> i operate part of the cloud.
<spridel> cool
<sprung> beyond that, i am a linux admin.
<sprung> i cannot tell you more.
<sprung> the culture is incredible.
<sprung> managers that are actually managers
<spridel> linux admin would have been acceptable, i figured hosting
<sprung> managers that help rather than control
<sprung> spridel, all we do is hosting
<sprung> spridel, so you're in austin? i have heard we are expanding
<sprung> into austin
<spridel> you have a small office here in Austin
<sprung> i dont know in what way exactly
<sprung> yeah i just started here 2 weeks ago
<sprung> im from kansas city
<sprung> by way of omaha
<spridel> i think it is a small datacenter actually, I applied for a Network Security Admin
<sprung> so i moved from omaha to san antonio two weeks ago
<spridel> San Antonio is an awesome city
<sprung> spridel, what are your credentials?
<spridel> BBA MIS/CIS
<sprung> spridel, i just saw Tron on the company dime, three rows had pieces of paper on the seats saying "reserved for rackers"
<spridel> If hired I need to get a CCNA in 60 days, which i'm already studying for whether or not i get the position
<sprung> of course it got packed
<spridel> a company that gets making your employees happy, awesome
<sprung> i need an RHCE, no deadline but im going to get it fast as shit
<sprung> yeah in Rackspace they usually don't do deadlines
<sprung> they expect things done before they need to set deadlines
<spridel> Security division they do
<sprung> yeah because they are security division
<spridel> We want you to know what the ____ is going how
<sprung> they plan and limit everything
<sprung> which is great
<spridel> s/how/no
<spridel> s/how/on
<sprung> well that goes into the Racker spirit
<sprung> Transparency
<sprung> thats a big part of it
<sprung> we let you know what you are getting into
<sprung> no surprises
<sprung> i want you to understand this is not just a job it is a lifestyle
<sprung> you are becoming a racker
<spridel> everyone i know in the security industry is the same way, Learn it, Love it, share it, repeat.
<sprung> and if you really want to be a racker, and they are taking a while to respond, send them an email in pseudo-essay form about how you are already a racker
<sprung> i did that
<sprung> spridel, rackspace is not the rest of the security industry
<spridel> thanks for the tip. My previous experiences is that the form rejection letter was in my inbox in about 2 days, if I don't see anything by end of business monday I'll hope I've passed under a Lucky star
<sprung> spridel, i applied for a customer facing support position, but i stutter and while that's something i can't help it's also something they can get away with ignoring even though it's a disability
<sprung> so they put me on server side
<sprung> where i wouldn't face customers
<sprung> thats actually a way better deal
<sprung> that put me in ops
<sprung> i skipped support
<sprung> its funny, i did call center, customer facing etc for years and years
<sprung> i stuttered but i always had high rankings
<sprung> here they let me skip all the phone shit
<sprung> i'm like "okay!"
<sprung> it was not my favorite
<spridel> That is win
<sprung> yes
<sprung> through being competent enough and what i do and being shitty enough and what i don't like to do i obtained advancement
<sprung> my references helped too, my former two bosses had nothing but great things to say about me
<spridel> sweet. Right now, I'm mainly working as a contractor for an acquaintance/friend of mine.  He says he'll put in a reference for me, he understands, that where I am, and where his company(startup) can't work together much longer unless his business picks up drastically.
<sprung> spridel, get him to write you a recommendation on LinkedIn
<sprung> our HR department is one of the most amazing parts of the company in selecting people
<spridel> Good Call
<sprung> they will look past some of education for personality fit and experience
<spridel> technically I'm "overeducated" for the position
<sprung> spridel, i would never say what you just said again
<sprung> it sounded arrogant
<sprung> spridel, education can never match experience, it can't even come close
<sprung> you can never be overeducated to work at rackspace
<sprung> everybody is learning all the time, and studying all the time
<sprung> i hope this makes sense, and as you grow for a few years you will realize that education means a lot less than experience
<sprung> one can cheat getting experience by getting lots of certifications
<sprung> i did that
<sprung> experience means you can solve hard problems
<sprung> certifications means you can solve a hard test
<spridel> what i mean is that they are looking for an Associates and I have a bachelors
<sprung> they get you through the door
<sprung> spridel, meaningless
<sprung> i have nothing
<sprung> i have 3 years towards a bachelors and no degree
<sprung> what i am saying is all that stuff your mom and dad tried to prep you for just doesn't matter
<sprung> we only hire fanatics
<spridel> i agree with the education != Experience
<sprung> i turned down a job that would have paid 13k more
<sprung> to work here
<sprung> because i'm a fanatic
<sprung> that's how much this is not a job it is a lifestyle
<spridel> I see
<sprung> spridel, if you had an opportunity to work on the starship enterprise or something cool like that, would you lose money to do it?
<sprung> well, i'm a trekkie and thats why i did it
<spridel> to work at a place i felt comfortable, hell yeah
<sprung> there you go
<sprung> also there is, even in the winter, a 30 degree difference in temperature
<sprung> no winters anymore
<spridel> hehe
<spridel> I've been trying to find a position in Security since May when I graduated, I've applied to a few higher Level positions, this is the first Entry-level one I've seen.
<sprung> spridel, and one of the few in the entire country you could get
<spridel> sprung: you are probably very right about that
<sprung> spridel, even in this economy, the company is taking off
<sprung> i cant tell you anything more than that
<spridel> sprung: that's because businesses wised up to the fact that they shouldn't be in the business of running a datacenter when their core is Finance/acct/advertising/etc.
<sprung> it is humorous you would say that
<sprung> spridel, this company can't exist without great marketing/advertising/accounting
<sprung> well actually lol
<sprung> it can
<sprung> it can't exist without a fanatical IT ops and support staff
<sprung> This company can't be successful without great marketing/advertising/accounting
<sprung> but in this company we have all decided we are fanatical in what we do and that's it
<sprung> we give even our janitors and security guards the same benefits and they are fanatical too
<sprung> and they're CONTRACTORS
<spridel> that's awesome
<sprung> spridel, just don't act like you already have credentials because you went to this and that school.
<sprung> rackspace already has some of the best and the brightest, i'm not either but they picked me. what you need is to realize that you not only know nothing but can
<sprung> rackspace already has some of the best and the brightest, i'm not either but they picked me. what you need is to realize that you not only know nothing but cant wait to have the opportunity
<sprung> to know more
<spridel> sprung how was tron?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-19
<sprung> spridel, awesome of course
<spridel> you're right it was pretty good
 * spridel just god back from it
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-23
<FlozuzMozuz> hello
<FlozuzMozuz> robbiew are you out of athens?
<FlozuzMozuz> is anyone active in this room?
<mrand> FlozuzMozuz: sometimes
<FlozuzMozuz> seems like a low number of ubuntu users in texas
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-24
 * Linden940 is away: I'm busy
 * Linden940 is back (gone 00:01:47)
#ubuntu-us-tx 2010-12-31
 * Linden940 is away: I'm away
<stlsaint> Linden940: poke
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: poke
 * jfluhmann giggles like the Pillsbury Doughboy
<jfluhmann> stlsaint, yes?
<spridel> silly jfluhmann
<jfluhmann> trix are for kids
<spridel> but man they are tasty
<jfluhmann> indeed
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: server, 4x Duo Core AMD processors, 32GB RAM, 3x500GB SATA drives
<spridel> VM box?
<stlsaint> spridel: ?
<stlsaint> oh, i dunno know yet lol
<spridel> might as well toss in some Nvidia 480s while you're at it
<stlsaint> if the processors can handle kvm then yea i will have a few kvm machines but mostly openvz containers
<jfluhmann> stlsaint, Nice!
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: very
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: guess how much it cost?
<spridel> dual core AMD should easily handle hardware virtualization
<stlsaint> spridel: 4 duo core AMD's ;)
<spridel> you'll be fine
<jfluhmann> yep, as long as they support AMD-V (for KVM)
<stlsaint> spridel: going to setup some vps to help prepare for the pwb course
<jfluhmann> you could always go the Xen route if not
<spridel> didn't realize you were taking that, awesome
<jfluhmann> which openvz does, right?  I know Proxmox does both KVM and Xen and uses OpenVZ for some of its stuff
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: yea proxmox is what i am using, using kvm and openvz
<stlsaint> openvz FTW!!!
<stlsaint> spridel: yea i am looking to take it in march
<jfluhmann> stlsaint, cool
<stlsaint> jfluhmann: 400 bucks!!
<spridel> thought it was more than that
<spridel> unless army is helping pay
<stlsaint> spridel: army pay for what?
<spridel> for the cert, class is like $750
<stlsaint> spridel: oh no, $400 bucks is for the server
<stlsaint> spridel: the class plus labs will run me $1100
<spridel> doing the 90 days for lab time?
<stlsaint> spridel: yep
<stlsaint> spridel: and heck no the army is not helping pay for it
<stlsaint> spridel: that is coming outta my own pocket
<spridel> sometimes they help with certs like CISSP/CISA/GIAC/Security+/CEH etc
<spridel> ccna stuff
 * stlsaint is Sec+ cert
<stlsaint> but looking foward to ccna after i get linux certs ;)
<spridel> doesn't hurt to ask if they will help
<stlsaint> army will pay after i take the course and provide papers saying i passed
<spridel> oh the good old reimbursement paperwork
<stlsaint> yea
<stlsaint> i may loan out vps for pay, bring in some extra bucks
<spridel> i know people that do that, charge friends to use as a pentesting environment
<stlsaint> spridel: oh yea, that and just loaning for general uses/learning
<stlsaint> spridel: openvz makes it real easy to setup a quick network for pentesting
<spridel> most people i know run ESX/ESXi
<stlsaint> im not a big vmware fan
<mrand> stlsaint: what hypervisors do you like bestest?
<mrand> I need to try one out.  Only requirement is that it support the latest Xeon's, and that it be able to be run on a headless machine (no VGA port)
<stlsaint> mrand: yo
<stlsaint> mrand: my favorite is proxmox but i install it via cd which requires a monitor then i make it headless.
 * Linden940 is back (gone 17:45:23)
<stlsaint> sup texans
#ubuntu-us-tx 2011-12-23
<Linden940> who all thinks it will snow this year?
<stlsaint> not i
<Linden940> lol
<Linden940> I'm thinking I will buy tire chains
<stlsaint> ha thats overkill
<stlsaint> testing
<Linden940> anyone in here?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2011-12-24
<stlsaint> Linden940: im late but im here
#ubuntu-us-tx 2011-12-27
<mrand> I'm latet
<mrand> I'm later
#ubuntu-us-tx 2011-12-28
<stlsaint> heyo
#ubuntu-us-tx 2011-12-31
<HehakaSapa> Hello
<stlsaint> HehakaSapa: hello
<HehakaSapa> Hope all is well
<stlsaint> great here...and with yourself?
<HehakaSapa> Thanks
<HehakaSapa> Where are you from ?
<stlsaint> I am in killeen
<HehakaSapa> Nice
<HehakaSapa> Im on the rio grande river on the border with mexico
<HehakaSapa> Just south of Eagle Pass
<stlsaint> oh ok
<HehakaSapa> Ever been to these parts?
<stlsaint> nope
#ubuntu-us-tx 2012-12-11
<mrand> weee
#ubuntu-us-tx 2012-12-22
<pigna_colada> hello, who can help me a solitary second?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2012-12-25
<Ahmuck> evening
#ubuntu-us-tx 2013-12-07
<JaredForTheWin> Damn, there's a small amount of people in Texas who use Ubuntu.
<Ardonel> actually there are only a small amount smart enough to be able to properly use irc...
#ubuntu-us-tx 2013-12-27
<brook> greetings anybody home?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-01
<Ardonel> Good morning all. 37 F feels like 29 F in south Fort Worth, TX. Coffee is hot and black. Have a great day.
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-02
<Ardonel> Good morning all. 31 F feels like 26 F in south Fort Worth, TX. Coffee is hot and black. Have a great day.
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-04
<Ardonel> Good morning all. 58 F in south Fort Worth, TX. Coffee is hot and black. Have a great day.
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-05
<Ardonel> Good morning all. 65 F in south Fort Worth, TX. Coffee is hot and black. Have a great day.
<carmargo> a
<carmargo> a
<carmargo> :-*
<carmargo> hola leeo en espaÃ±ol
<carmargo> es crivo en espaÃ±ol
<chiluk> heck yeah
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-11
<slick666_work> Hey Theresa
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-13
<LoadingPleaseWai> finally there are people in this chat!
<LoadingPleaseWai> or not
<stephenm> HI, I've been looking to visit the Dallas-Fort Worth area.  Does anyone know how to contact a local LUG group?  Or know anyone in those meetings?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-23
<Ardonel> wow, 2 users, a log-bot and Chanserv...
#ubuntu-us-tx 2014-12-26
<rivanov> howdy y'all
#ubuntu-us-tx 2015-12-03
<cliGeezer> Buenos Diaz!
<thebwt> Good morning cliGeezer
#ubuntu-us-tx 2015-12-11
<DirtyCajun>  does anyone know where sonarr places mono originally
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-01
 * tiwake pokes r3dd0g 
<r3dd0g> hey hey
<tiwake> whats up?
<r3dd0g> truck shopping
<tiwake> been scouring craigslist... but nothing for a month so far
<tiwake> nothing with my criteria
<tiwake> the manual transmission requirement gets rid of almost everything
<r3dd0g> tried cargurus.com ?
<tiwake> no
<tiwake> what
<tiwake> I cant select a minimum year?
<r3dd0g> sure you can
<tiwake> or $4,000 top price?
<r3dd0g> yes, ust pick make and model first
<tiwake> I don't want to though
<tiwake> ford, manual transmission, 2008 or newer
<tiwake> and $5,000 or less
<r3dd0g> what model?
<tiwake> yes
<tiwake> truck, car, does not matter
<r3dd0g> ahh
<tiwake> F250, F350, F450, focus, fiesta, fusion... whatever
<Ardonel> Yo! What's up!
<tiwake> actually I think thats pretty much everything that ford shipped with a manual transmission
<r3dd0g> yeah im in the market for a f250 or f350, crew cab, 4wd
<r3dd0g> hey, whats up Ardonel
<tiwake> though if I get an F150, I suppose I could cut a hole in the floor and put in my own manual transmission in sometime later
<r3dd0g> of course you can
<Ardonel> How are you r3dd0g and tiwake ?
<tiwake> Ardonel: alright
<r3dd0g> just another day in paradise
<tiwake> r3dd0g: I applied the $5,000 filter but its showing stuff way above it still
<r3dd0g> the first few listing are featured...
<tiwake> oh I see the issue
<Ardonel> people try too hard to get around those filters... makes them close to useless
<tiwake> Ardonel: no, the slider bar actually had to adjustment tabs on it... one for upper and one for lower price
<Ardonel> ahhh
<tiwake> moved the lower bar to 5,000 and was wondering what the heck
<tiwake> r3dd0g: no listings... heh
<r3dd0g> doh
<tiwake> well, two, but certainly nothing 2008 or newer
<r3dd0g> dang... Goldthwaite, TX Â· 146 miles away
<tiwake> my clutch is still slipping
<tiwake> though it only has gotten marginally worse... I could probably make it last another month if I had to
<r3dd0g> replace it?
<tiwake> no
<tiwake> lol
<tiwake> cause when I change the engine on it, the clutch configuration will be different
<tiwake> so I'd be throwing away a $300 clutch
<r3dd0g> gotcha
<tiwake> cheaper to get a loan honestly
<tiwake> (which I'm going to from my dad...)
<r3dd0g> aye
<Ardonel> https://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/cto/523-777-4502.html
<tiwake> Ardonel: that was the year I was born
<Ardonel> If I had the extra time and money
<r3dd0g> hell, i have an 88 in the backyard
<Ardonel> That was the year I joined the military
<r3dd0g> Ardonel, thank you for your service!
<tiwake> I'm not interested in another project car/truck
<Ardonel> You are welcome r3dd0g.
<tiwake> Ardonel: are you in the DFW area? I don't remember
<Ardonel> Yes sir. South side of Ft. Worth.
<tiwake> if I find something I want on craigslist in that area, can I send you the money to get it for me and I come pick it up the following weekend?
<tiwake> (kidding... mostly)
<Ardonel> we would have to talk, but maybe...
<Ardonel> https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/523-777-4502.html
<Ardonel> just don't have the cash
<Ardonel> My budget right now is probably as tight as tiwake's...
<Ardonel> maybe even tighter...
<tiwake> I have maybe a spare $1000 right now
<Ardonel> I might have a spare $10.00 right now, and today was payday. But, all the bills are paid, groceries are bought, truck is gassed up, I have money for next weeks tank ready, and I have $50-60 for missed groceries/stuff available.
<tiwake> yeah, I still need to pay rent for this month
<tiwake> but I get about $600/week from my job
<tiwake> payed every friday
<tiwake> been giving my dad $500/month for the last few months
 * tiwake checks bank account
<Ardonel> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/523-777-4502.html  <-- love to have this as my work truck.
<Ardonel> I would need a compressor, a welder, torch tanks, some more tool storage, and a crane...
<tiwake> a GMC? no thanks
<Ardonel> Only downside in my book is it is not 4wd...
<tiwake> dosent GMC use cummins engines for their diesel trucks?
<tiwake> or is that chevy
<Ardonel> among others... you can get a Cat if that's what you want...
<tiwake> I'm pretty sure chevy puts cummins diesel engines in their truck
<Ardonel> Dodge has the factory deal with Cummins...
<tiwake> ford makes their own diesel engine
<r3dd0g> no they dont
<tiwake> what is it then?
<r3dd0g> the powerstroke 6.0 is an International motor
<Ardonel> thats what I thought...
<Ardonel> are the 7's also?
<r3dd0g> i honestly dont know
<r3dd0g> i know for sure the 6.0 is though.
<tiwake> Ardonel: the 6.7? I don't remember the common sizes
<tiwake> ah yeah, the 6.7
<tiwake> "Codenamed the Scorpion during its developmental stage, the 6.7L Power Stroke is Ford's in-house built diesel engine for the Ford Super Duty."
<r3dd0g> yea, 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 and 7.3
<tiwake> http://www.powerstrokehub.com/6.7-power-stroke.html
<r3dd0g> im having a hard time right determining if Im going Ford or Dodge
<tiwake> dodge makes a lot of cruddy stuff
<tiwake> the neon? heh
<Ardonel> ok, just read that the powerstroke's are ford motors, but are built for ford by International's Indianapolis plant.
<tiwake> Ardonel: ford design using international's manufactoring facility?
<tiwake> sounds about right
<Ardonel> so it is a Ford motor, built by International...  clear as mud there...
<tiwake> pretty common to do honestly
<r3dd0g> hahah
<r3dd0g> Ford has/had a class action against International over that 6.0
<tiwake> seasonic makes power supplies for antec, and a bunch of other companies
<r3dd0g> so yeah, clear as mud  lol
<r3dd0g> the Dodge Cummins 5.9 24v is a mean ass motor
<tiwake> foxconn makes motherboards for pretty much every company
<r3dd0g> true story
<tiwake> but the motherboard design is each given companies own.
<tiwake> *shrug*
<tiwake> honestly the uncommon thing is to be the designer, manufacturer, and doing all the sales... for a given product
<Ardonel> I make paddles out of fence pickets for whoever wants one. The kids in this neighborhood hate me. :P
<tiwake> heh
<r3dd0g> ill take 7
<tiwake> my dad had a wooden spoon for us kids
<r3dd0g> so I can personalize them for each child
<tiwake> we all cheered when it broke one day
<tiwake> lol
<Ardonel> r3dd0g: only 7 so far?
<r3dd0g> yeah
<r3dd0g> well shit, minus 2, cause you can't whoop foster kids o.O
<tiwake> then why have them?
<r3dd0g> that's what I said
<Ardonel> can't get caught you mean...
<r3dd0g> touche
<tiwake> thats true too
<Ardonel> there are ways of handling those situations that make them beg for a paddlin'
<tiwake> chinese torture methodologies?
<Ardonel> All jokes aside, much respect to you r3dd0g for doing the foster parent thing. Not everybody can do it.
<r3dd0g> thank you sir. it's been a learning experience for sure.
<Ardonel> The wife and I only have 1, and we have talked about fostering/adopting, but the time never seems to be right. I am afraid that if we don't make time, there will never be time...
<tiwake> my pastor adopted one such... they sent some people over to check on them I guess, standard protocol for adoption? anyway, the person that came over said "what well behaved kids" he replied with "I beat them with a stick" heh
<Ardonel> rofl
<r3dd0g> nice
<r3dd0g> Ardonel, true story. and time moves rather quickly
<tiwake> the kids all agreed with him... I guess she didnt believe that kids could come out so nice with punishment from a stick
<tiwake> "oh you are so silly" or something like that was her response
<tiwake> whatever
<r3dd0g> if only she knew... lol
<tiwake> the rod of reproof removes the foolishness far from a child
<tiwake> I got a fair amount myself
<tiwake> my sister even more so
<r3dd0g> i can attest myself
<tiwake> jep, and indeed it works well.
<r3dd0g> hell, i woke up in strange places... that may have been a little to far, but the point was well received
<Ardonel> There was no rod sparing where I grew up.
<tiwake> heh
<tiwake> I'm glad that its a more common thing here in texas it seems
<tiwake> in oregon its practically unheard of
<r3dd0g> very much! Im a transplant from California.. pfft
<tiwake> oh yeah, califorina is the same thing
<Ardonel> But dad didn't drink or do drugs, so there were never any beatings for 'just because I feel like it' either...
<tiwake> Ardonel: same
<r3dd0g> oh i deserved my lickings
<tiwake> well, he has a beer every other night... not much more than that though
<Ardonel> I know there are still school districts in Texas that have corporal punishment.
<tiwake> sipping on one myself right now
<Ardonel> r3dd0g: I deserved far more than I actually got.
<r3dd0g> sadly, they are being stripped of that slowly
<tiwake> Ardonel: the only thing I wish there was more of is public hangings
<Ardonel> Could we start with politicians?
<tiwake> start with hillary
<Ardonel> Start with the people who enable Hillary.
<r3dd0g> pay per view that shit... poof national debt relieved
<tiwake> heh
<tiwake> also, I was homeschooled, so all that public school BS was absolved for me... heh
<tiwake> do 4H sewing and not get laughed at
<Ardonel> I wasn't homeschooled, but our son is. Can you believe he got suspended 4 times as a kindergardener.
<tiwake> for what?
<Ardonel> After that we pulled him out.
<Ardonel> 1 time was because he got beat up during play time, and he would not fight back.
<tiwake> ha oh man
<Ardonel> The other boys were mad that none of the girls wanted to play with them. They were all playing with our son because he was polite and had good manners.
<tiwake> how can you get suspended for that?
<Ardonel> So 7 or 8 beat him up, on the playground, during supervised play time. And our son got suspended because one of the other boys moms was PTA chair, and another little boys dad was a Lawyer.
<Ardonel> Apparently, not fighting back is instigating... I still can't understand all the crap from that school. But we are beyond that now.
<tiwake> how old is he now?
<Ardonel> 12
<tiwake> ah alright
<Ardonel> He will be 13 in April.
<tiwake> so he has a chance to know calculus by 15 or so
<Ardonel> He is a First Class Boy Scout, working on the Star rank, which he hopes to get in February.
<tiwake> IMO calculus should be gotten to by about 14-15... I was teaching myself how to program starting at about 14
<Ardonel> I figure at the rate he is going, He will get his Eagle at 14 or 15.
<tiwake> my mom considered that part of my schooling and allowed me to do what I wanted in that regard... basically locked myself in my room for days straight and popped out knowing how to program... heh
<Ardonel> r3dd0g: any of your kids do the scout (boy or girl) thing?
<tiwake> I didnt... did baseball though, and 4H
<r3dd0g> Ardonel, negative
<Ardonel> Since my dad was a traveling preacher during my early years, we moved around a lot. I wasn't allowed to be a boy scout. Now that I am almost 50, I really wish I would have pushed harder.
<tiwake> *shrug*
<r3dd0g> good night gents, thanks for the chat
<tiwake> everyone has their own unique learning platform
<Ardonel> sleep well r3dd0g
<tiwake> r3dd0g: cheers
<tiwake> and good luck on your truck hunt
<tiwake> hmm
<tiwake> Ardonel: all the moving I did was on my own... grew up and lived in the same place in excess of 20 years
<tiwake> moved to montana for a few years, moved back, then I moved to texas
<Ardonel> We moved 21 times in 16 years.
<tiwake> I cant imagine living in a non-ideal location
<Ardonel> I did get to do my last 3 years of high school in the same school
<Ardonel> actually 21 in 14 years
<tiwake> why bother...
<tiwake> I told my dad I am preparing to buy some property to build a house large enough to take care of them when they cant anymore, and move them over to here in lubbock
<tiwake> he said "but I like the hills and trees and stuff" basically
<tiwake> lol
<tiwake> I said "and now you sound like one of those liberals you hate so much"
<Ardonel> lol
<tiwake> I donno whats going to happen in the next years, but I do know what I want to do
<tiwake> house & shop, three phase power, and the house built with specific materials to last multiple lifetimes
<tiwake> somewhere in there I might find a girl
<tiwake> donno
<Ardonel> All things in Gods time.
<tiwake> jep
<tiwake> Ardonel: dispensationalist? calvenism or armenianism?
<Ardonel> me or dad?
<tiwake> you
<tiwake> there are other questions, but thats a good starting place
<tiwake> or PM if you would prefer
<Ardonel> Church of the Nazarene. The Nazarenes came out of the Methodist tradition and are similar in most beliefs. What sets them apart would be their teaching on sanctification (as elaborated by John Wesley). And they're definitely Wesleyan-Arminian, not Calvinist.
<tiwake> gotcha... and that is what you believe?
<tiwake> (as apposed to just going to that church)
<Ardonel> dad is the same now. However, when I was growing up, we were southern baptist; hel-fire and brimstone variety.
<Ardonel> Yes, that is what I believe.
<tiwake> what about dispensations?
<tiwake> erm
<tiwake> I'm using the wrong fancy word
<Ardonel> http://www.nazarene.org/gensec/we_believe.html
<tiwake> (yeah yeah, wrong word)
<tiwake> and I'm derping on the correct word
<tiwake> uh
<Ardonel> I was that way most of johncrosby@example.net.
<tiwake> oh gosh derping so hard
<tiwake> google is so not helpful
<tiwake> oh yeah, its the right word
<tiwake> different dispensations as defined by the bible... dispensationalism
<tiwake> depending on how you count there is 7 or 8 or 12 or something that is defined
<tiwake> some people don't believe that though? its kinda strange those that don't
<Ardonel> Not sure I understand what I am reading on this http://www.endtimes.org/dispens.html .
<Ardonel> I am probably too sleepy to figure it out right now. Let me look at it tomorrow and see if it is more understandable.
<Ardonel> Good night tiwake .
<tiwake> short version: Gods instructions are slightly different for different overarching time periods
<tiwake> Noah had different instructions from adam and eve... for example
<tiwake> they say 7 different time periods, I'd say there is more... uh... I'd add 7 year tribulation, and the "forever and ever after" part too, though almost nothing is known about that
<tiwake> it could probably be broken down slightly more, but thats the important stuff
<tiwake> http://imgur.com/gallery/UIqSo
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-08
<tiwake> Ardonel: https://lubbock.craigslist.org/cto/5904173495.html
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-12
<eventingmonkey> Hello, I am looking for information about the loco team in Austin. Is it still a thing? I looked through the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustinTeam), but it looks out of date.
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-14
<tiwake> Ardonel: I just got my first car upgrade in the mail today
<tiwake> an adapter so I can put a standard 1-din size audio thing in the dash
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-17
 * tiwake pokes Ardonel 
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-18
<Ardonel> Yo!
<tiwake> Ardonel finally talks
<Ardonel> How is the weather up there tiwake ?
<tiwake> cold
<tiwake> the car I just got evidently did not have antifreeze in it, and froze solid
<Ardonel> Uh-oh!
<Ardonel> Not johncrosby@example.net.
<tiwake> thawed it out and is leaking between the engine and transmission a lot, where I cant see
<Ardonel> probably popped the rear freeze plugs
<tiwake> freeze plugs?
<tiwake> I know the engine has a bunch of plugs on the side generally, but is that what they are there for?
<Ardonel> it is a plug in the motor block that allows freezing water a way to expand when it freezes without cracking the block...
<tiwake> well I didnt notice any water in the oil
<tiwake> but I didnt check the exhaust
<Ardonel> they only allow access to the coolant system
<tiwake> best case is that it just popped those plugs like you said
<Ardonel> but if it is between the engine and transmission, you are looking at seperating them to replace them
<tiwake> yeah
<Ardonel> so it is most likely a complete motor removal...
<Ardonel> What car/motor?
<tiwake> ford taurus
<tiwake> 2001
<tiwake> the 150hp 3 liter engine
<Ardonel> v6?
<tiwake> yeah
<tiwake> the vulcan engine
<tiwake> (evidently the taurus was shipped with two different 3 liter engines)
<tiwake> the vulcan 3 liter has 150hp, the duratec has 200hp... the 200hp one is less reliable
#ubuntu-us-tx 2016-12-23
 * tiwake flails at Ardonel 
<tiwake> Toolman89: quit being such a tool?
#ubuntu-us-tx 2017-12-22
<jnash> Hey guys, hello from Frisco, TX
#ubuntu-us-tx 2017-12-26
<jnash> Hello guys. Anyone out there strong with KVM on Ubuntu 16.04 server? I need assistance with guest networking.

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