#ubuntuone 2010-05-01 <hirisov> u see my "scenario" is that i have some sensitive data on an external usb drive which i wanna store on u1 encrypted just as a safety backup <hirisov> i dont want to browse it on u1 websoite or anything <hirisov> so my idea is to use a Private directory in my $HOME <hirisov> every once in a week or so <hirisov> i rsync there my external drive <hirisov> (after mounting an other partition to ~/Private with cryptfs) <hirisov> after rsync done i umount cryptfs from ~/Private <hirisov> now ~/Private contains encrypted files <hirisov> and now do the u1 sync <verterok> hirisov: cryptfs stores all the files in a single file, right? <hirisov> no, the filenames still remains the same <hirisov> but the content is encrypted <hirisov> so if i chaneg 3 files in 30000 <hirisov> not 1 big file will change <hirisov> but just that 3 <hirisov> basically all files became binary <verterok> hirisov: so, you can actually browse that using the webui <hirisov> with a strong encryption <hirisov> webui will only show the name of files and directories <hirisov> but not the content <verterok> hirisov: yes, the web don't show the contents <hirisov> with cryptfs i could choose the encrypt the filenames as well so they became garbage also <hirisov> but that not a goal now <verterok> hirisov: but you will be able to download specific files <verterok> ? <hirisov> ye but they r unusable w/o the decrypt key <hirisov> even if sy gets them <verterok> hirisov: ok, I understand <hirisov> but for thsi to work the u1 sync proicess can only run <hirisov> after i finished rsync and unmounted crpytfs from ~/Private <verterok> hirisov: when the encrypted paritition isn't mounted, what's in ~/Private? <hirisov> if it just starts to think whenever it thinks <hirisov> all the same files but they r encrypted <verterok> hirisov: and when you mount it, it decrypts de files inplace? <hirisov> after "moutning" cryptfs it just means the content becamoes readable by any application <hirisov> ye <verterok> hirisov: hmm..got it <verterok> hirisov: you might nee to be extra carefull with that setup <hirisov> so ~/Private whyn cryptfs is moutned contaisn nromal files, when cryptfs is unmounted it contains encoded garbage <verterok> hirisov: e.g: never mounting it when syncdaemon is running <hirisov> well it's just a backup <hirisov> exactly <hirisov> thats why i'd like to know/control when sycndaemon exactly runs <hirisov> and i think this feature would be a major plus for u1 for all the users who r concerned about uploading sensitive data to a cloud <hirisov> and as i see all it needs is that there would be a safe way to stop/start the sync daemon <hirisov> which takes into account taht it's actually syncing or not <hirisov> sadly i don't have the knowledge to program that DBus signal catching script u mentioned :( <verterok> hirisov: ATM, you can do that manually <verterok> hirisov: e.g: after unmounting the parition: u1sdtool --start && u1sdtool --connect <verterok> hirisov: to check what syncdaemon is doing: u1sdtool --status <verterok> hirisov: once it reach IDLE: u1sdtool --quit <hirisov> great, this is good enough for me <verterok> hirisov: let me show you what's the output of an IDLE syncdaemon <hirisov> as long as i can be sure that if i disable the u1 service from system>preferences>startup <hirisov> then until i say " u1sdtool --start && u1sdtool --connect" u1sync wont try to do anything <verterok> hirisov: you can change a config value to stop syncdaemon to start <hirisov> is taht correct? <verterok> at all <verterok> hirisov: yes <hirisov> where can i change taht config value? <verterok> hirisov: all the config options are available at: /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf <verterok> hirisov: if you want to change something for a specific user <verterok> hirisov: you need to create ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf <verterok> hirisov: config changes are reloaded on start, so if you change something you need to quit and start syncdaemon <hirisov> sure ty, the global way will be ok for me now <verterok> hirisov: if you put this in that file: <verterok> [__main__] <verterok> files_sync_enabled = 0 <verterok> hirisov: syncdaemon will not start <verterok> hirisov: when you want to make it start, change the value to 1. and u1sdtool --start <verterok> hirisov: that value is the one that the preferences app change when you uncheck the file synchronization checkbox ;) <verterok> hirisov: you should not change the global config :) <hirisov> i see, so if i uncheck everything in the "services" tab of the preferences app <hirisov> then i'm safe taht nothing starts before i manually enable it and start the sync? <verterok> hirisov: yeap <hirisov> great, a bit manual but well i dont exaclty use it for what you "intended" for so it's okay <verterok> hirisov: also, if you want the full power of manual sync, you can use u1sync <verterok> hirisov: it's a command line tool to sync stuff manually <hirisov> is taht a separate package? <hirisov> seems i dont have such "command" <verterok> hirisov: it's in the ubuntuone-client-tools, and it's intended to power users only..as you might shoot in the foot <hirisov> hehe :)) <hirisov> well thanks a lot for this info, i do the trm about it <verterok> hirisov: np <hirisov> probably taht will be the best way <hirisov> i really think however taht when things settle down a bit it would be worth the look into integratr some similar crypt solutions to u1 <hirisov> taht would be a MAJOR plus afaik on the market <verterok> indeed <hirisov> and as i see we have all the tools needed for it just some glue needed;) <hirisov> and ecryptfs is a nice standard tool, ubuntu uses this very tool when u install it with "encrypted hoem directory" so all the packages etc r there <waltercool> i need a specific port for ubuntu one music store? <verterok> waltercool: I think the store uses http(s) <waltercool> verterok: So... is strange... im on a place with restricted navigation (hotspot) and i cant access to UOMS, i just can see a "nternet connection is required to access the music store" message <verterok> waltercool: let me check locally <waltercool> ok <waltercool> ty <verterok> waltercool: rhytmobox seems to be using port 80 <waltercool> verterok: how did you debug that? <verterok> waltercool: netstat -putanl | grep ESTABLISHED | grep rhythmbox <waltercool> verterok: oh... but you need have that working... <verterok> waltercool: what do I need? <waltercool> verterok: i cant get ubuntu one music store working... just appear like disconnected <verterok> waltercool: I just restarted rhytmbox, and it first connect using 443 <verterok> then it uses port 80 for the store browsing <waltercool> port 443? <waltercool> for logging? <verterok> waltercool: 6014050377:443 <waltercool> log in <verterok> waltercool: might be, not really sure what the rhythmbox plugin do <waltercool> thats a Ubuntu One IP <waltercool> maybe i need port 443 for get it working =/ <verterok> waltercool: yes <waltercool> well... that sTucks... <verterok> waltercool: weird that you can't use port 443 <verterok> :( <waltercool> verterok: because my hotspot (im on my university) have all ports blocked <verterok> ah, ok...that's bad :( <waltercool> verterok: yeah, and i need work with ssh =/ <waltercool> verterok: im lucky, because webchat exists =D <verterok> :) <hirisov> verterok, pls is http://pastebin.com/5Ts3gCX9 indicate that synxc is in IDLE state? <verterok> hirisov: oh, sorry I completely forgot about that :? <verterok> :/ <verterok> hirisov: yes, that's IDLE <hirisov> no need for sorry really i appreciatte all your help <waltercool> seems normal hirisov <hirisov> okay now if i do " u1sdtool --quit " in the preferences app the sync starst instantly <hirisov> why is that?:) <hirisov> says "sync in progress" (guess tahst the english version, it appears hungarian" <hirisov> in hungarian to me) <verterok> hirisov: hmm, seems that the preferences app it's starting syncdaemon again..let me check that real quick <hirisov> now the pref app says "disconnected", but it definitelly tried to sync <hirisov> it doens't says "sync is complete" like after a nromal sync, but this "disconnected" <hirisov> so probably it doesnt start it just the text is msileading? <verterok> hirisov: might be a bug in the preferences app <hirisov> sure ty, meanwhile i do another test after a--start && --connect i'll --quit again and watch the --status what's exactly happening <hirisov> (btw is taht normal i synced 30 mins ago first and tehre is onyl 1 file in my directory with the size of 12 KB and i cant see it on the web?) <verterok> hirisov: not sure what you'r looking <verterok> hirisov: did you marked Private to be synced? <hirisov> https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ <hirisov> ye <hirisov> right clicked on it in nautilus and told it to sync <verterok> hirisov: ok, could you run: u1sdtool --list-folders ? <verterok> hirisov: better, do you see the Private folder in the web? <hirisov> i dont see it <hirisov> and it says "No folders" <verterok> hirisov: so it never synced <verterok> hirisov: please run: u1sdtool --list-folders <hirisov> i ran, it says "no filders" <verterok> hirisov: so, it seems ~/Private isn't under syncdaemon control <hirisov> http://pastebin.com/5VY6AUCy <verterok> hirisov: is the syncdaemon connected? <hirisov> hm and how is taht possible? <hirisov> ye, i ran "u1sdtool --start && u1sdtool --connect" <verterok> hirisov: it might never executed that action in the server <verterok> hirisov: as your token was invalid <verterok> hirisov: is the client in IDLE state? <hirisov> ye <hirisov> and it just finsihed the sync 30 secs ago <hirisov> my token is valid for 1 hr now <hirisov> and i marked the foler after it <hirisov> folder* <verterok> hirisov: please check (using nautilus) if you can mark the folder to be synced with u1 or to stop syncing it <hirisov> "sharo on ubuntu one" <hirisov> share* <verterok> hirisov: no <hirisov> "stop u1 syncron" <hirisov> both greyed out <verterok> hirisov: yes, that.. <hirisov> no other options <verterok> hmm, ok <hirisov> i cannot actually click on these options <hirisov> but before it was "sync with u1" and i choose that <verterok> hirisov: please run: u1sdtool --create-folder=$HOME/Private <verterok> hirisov: syncdameon should chrun a bit and go back to IDLE state <hirisov> running, takes a while <verterok> hirisov: oh, actually it will start syncing the folder <verterok> hirisov: check in the web if you have the Private folder there <hirisov> yes the folder appeared on the web! <verterok> hirisov: so it might take a while as the server are a bit slow...but it will eventually finish the sync <hirisov> hm probably if i disabel u1 service" it cannot register when i add folders? <verterok> hirisov: probably <verterok> hirisov: as syncdaemon isn't running <hirisov> and nautilus signals the syncdaemon? <verterok> hirisov: yes, via DBus <hirisov> i see, so i shoudl enable the service, set up all the folders i wanna sync, then i can disable the service <hirisov> and do a reboot and after that the --start && --connect method shoudl be fine <verterok> hirisov: yes, once the folders get synced ;) <hirisov> ofc :)) <verterok> hirisov: I need to step out for bit, but be back later <hirisov> sure mate np <verterok> ttyl! <hirisov> also i go sleep now just u know shiny exciting tool <hirisov> hard to leave it when it's halfway done;) <hirisov> gnite all <waltercool> gnite * waltercool is late <terwilliger> I've got the "Synchronization in progress..." blues. Any devs around? <crashsystems> No matter how often I click the "add this computer" button, my computer is not added, and I just see the confirm screen again. Is this a known problem? <steveplatz> I have a fresh lucid install with no u1 prefs start-up <cx> hello <cx> does the outage disable the "Add This Computer" button on the ubuntu one website? <cx> ah, I see there's a FAQ entry on this <cx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#Account <prouchon> In 10.04, I cannot sync my files anymore. Does anyone has the same issue ? <Vincent_k> yes <Vincent_k> I've had a nightmare with u1 <Vincent_k> now it seems to work for no reason all of a sudden thouhg <duanedesign> hello Vincent_k <Vincent_k> hello <jimmij> honk <jimmij> so am i to understand that music i've bought won't download to my machines over the weekend? <duanedesign> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <duanedesign> sorry about that :\ <stewart_> honk <stewart_> honk <Terwilliger> "honk" <Moe> uh, honk <Moe> (Once again) <Moe> Regular syncing is supposed to work, isn't it? <Moe> File-wise <schaze> honk <schaze> still honking :) <Moe> hehe, I was honking around six .. nobody showed up yet <Moe> But it's the weekend <Moe> So I guess that's ok <schaze> :) I though it was worth a try <schaze> So what's your problem, maybe we can help each other <duanedesign> Moe: hello <Moe> hey duanedesign <duanedesign> Moe: having trouble syncing? <Moe> duanedesign: Indeed I do <Moe> I see that it's connecting .. but, supposedly, doesn't want to sync <duanedesign> Moe: is this a new install? <Moe> No, it's an upgraded installation <Moe> It used to work <duanedesign> ok <Moe> I bought a couple of tracks through the music store <Moe> And most of them synced fine <Moe> But because of a hickup a couple of them didn't get transfered <duanedesign> Moe: do you have Ubuntu One connected now? <Moe> Yes, I do <duanedesign> can you open a Terminal and see what you get from this command. u1sdtool -s <Moe> Sure <Moe> "doing the auth dance" <duanedesign> could you paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com and post the address here <Moe> Of course, sec <Moe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/425971/ <Moe> It is still doing the dance though <Moe> That might very well be why it doesn't sync I guess <duanedesign> yeah <Moe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/425973/ <Moe> Now it changed .. doesn't look very promising thogh <duanedesign> nope <Moe> well, I guess it's not unusual given the lynx just got unleached <Moe> The servers must be getting hammered by requests right now <duanedesign> one sec, i am testing mine to see what i get <Moe> Roger that <DMark> Can anyone help me add this computer using lynx? <duanedesign> hello DMark <duanedesign> I can <DMark> hello duanedesign, <DMark> I am on https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/ step 8, and cannot find the add this computer button. <duanedesign> yeah it is a bug that has been affecting some people http://bit.ly/caHbOf <duanedesign> DMark: you will need to close the client and run : u1sdtool -q; kilall-ubuntuone-login <duanedesign> then when you open ubuntu one from the me menu it will open firefox to add your computer <DMark> That looks like it worked. Thank you. <duanedesign> Moe: ok. well it took a bit but mine looks like it connected <terwilliger> honk <Moe> mhm, I just checked <Moe> It's still in "limbo" <Moe> Maybe I should restart the daemon <duanedesign> Moe: is there anything in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log <duanedesign> terwilliger: hello <terwilliger> Hi Duaje <terwilliger> Duane <terwilliger> When you have a minute, I'm still not getting sync'd <duanedesign> Moe: if that is empty check ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log <duanedesign> terwilliger: are you trying to connect right now? <Moe> Nope, it does hold a couple of errors <terwilliger> Yup <Moe> It's actually the same error over and over again <duanedesign> terwilliger: can you run u1sdtool -s <terwilliger> Sure. Hang on <Moe> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/425976/ <duanedesign> terwilliger: in a Terminal and then paste the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com * Moe restarts the daemon .. while discovering a rouge ubuntuone-login process <duanedesign> Moe: ok lets try and reauthenticate your computer. <terwilliger> Done <duanedesign> terwilliger: after you paste it you will get an address like paste.ubuntu/derfgg <duanedesign> post that here. <Moe> duanedesign: After the restart it did connect now .. I suppose the "rouge" ubuntuone-login process did prevent it from logging in correctly <Moe> Let's see whether it's going to sync now <duanedesign> Moe: interesting. <terwilliger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/425977/ <schaze> duanedesign: I have the same exceptions as Moe. I already tried, mine is not syncing <duanedesign> terwilliger: ok yours is connected and working on a sync. Things are just really slow right now with the release. Everyone is filling up there Ubuntu One folders and buying music <Moe> Yay for buying music ;) <duanedesign> schaze: what do you get when you run: u1sdtool -s <terwilliger> Hmmmm..."Synchronization in progress..." has been showing for 17 minutes for a 182 K upload? <Moe> I really like the store being connected directly to the cloud .. it makes keeping a music library across computers so much easier <terwilliger> Duanedesign: Good enough. Thnx <schaze> duanedesign: I just did a u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login ... one sec <Moe> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/425979/ - Now it says it's syncing .. but there is no network activity at all <Moe> I wonder what it's doing <duanedesign> terwilliger: yeah, i know its pretty slow right now. They have added more servers to speed things up <Moe> The ubuntuone-preferences dialog isn't very verbose <schaze> duanedesign: dancing <duanedesign> schaze: ok <duanedesign> schaze: then it should go to State: AUTHENTICATE <schaze> duanedesign: it just got an exception and is now retrying <duanedesign> schaze: did you have the two ubuntuone-login processes like Moe <schaze> duanedesign: "waiting before try connecting again" <schaze> duanedesign: at the moment I have 1, did not check how many it were before though <Moe> duanedesign: It's syncing! <Moe> At least u1sdtool --current-transfers says so <duanedesign> Moe: allright! <Moe> Great <Moe> Thank you for your help <Moe> Appreciate it <schaze> duanedesign: syncdaemon.log --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/425981/ <duanedesign> Moe: no problem, anytime :) <Moe> :) <schaze> duanedesign: ah, now it is "doing server rescan" <duanedesign> schaze: aha <schaze> duanedesign: processing queues <duanedesign> schaze: sounds like you made it through :) <schaze> duanedesign: I have been there already this morning. Problem is it will get until the queues: IDLE state but I never get a green check on the folders of my synced folders <schaze> duanedesign: files are green though. And I can't stop an outside folder from being synced <duanedesign> schaze: do you have a ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log from around that time <schaze> duanedesign: only one with errrors Moe posted. And that was while connecting. nothing after it <schaze> duanedesign: Now I am actually in the state again: processing queues | and queues: IDLE <duanedesign> schaze: and you still have files that are not showing up online? <schaze> duanedesign: no, all files are there but all folders are having the gray circle arrow with the "!" <schaze> and they never get green <duanedesign> schaze: ahh, your emblems are broken. <schaze> I also have my ~/Documents folder synced (for testing) which I want to "Stop synchronizing on Ubuntu one" but this option i grayed out in nautilus <schaze> duanedesign: only the emblems? :) really? ok how do I fix them? <duanedesign> schaze: i am looking to see if there is a bug report <schaze> duanedesign: I can check that too, it just never occurred to me that the emblems could be broken :) <schaze> duanedesign: but I believe something else is also wrong. I created a testfile (text, 5 bytes big) 5 minutes ago and it is still in uploading status... <schaze> duanedesign: there is one with rogue emblems :) <mattgriffin> FYI... i updated the Ubuntu One status page with info on contacts and notes sync and the music store - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status <Moe> mattgriffin: Is there any issues known concerning German umlauts? <Moe> Concerning music store syncing that is <schaze> duanedesign: hm... I don't think the emblems are hanging. my testfile is still in uploading state and the log just reported a lost connection <schaze> duanedesign: u1sdtool -s is reporting "WORKING_ON_BOTH" however <duanedesign> schaze: well it could have some metadata still to work out <duanedesign> i am sorry but i am being called away by the family :) I will be back in about an hour or so. <schaze> duanedesign: but for 15mins? <duanedesign> schaze: yeah it is really slow right now <schaze> duanedesign: ok. no problem. Thanks a lot for your help so far! <duanedesign> i imagine come monday it will start getting better. They added a bunch of new servers right before the release. <schaze> good to hear <duanedesign> So during a typical load it was working very fast. <schaze> I bought a song yesterday and it took 25mins to download it to my disk. that freaked me out a bit :) <Moe> schaze: I bought around 45 tunes last week .. and it didn't even sync to the cloud at first <Moe> I wrote two tickets for the 7digital support <Moe> None of which I recieved an answer for by the way <Moe> (Might wanna look into that) <Moe> Luckily, the situation solved itself somehow <schaze> Moe: Thanks. Lukily the sync to the cloud was fine for me, only the download by u1 was slow <Moe> mhm <skx> If https://login.ubuntu.com/+login allows me to login using my launchpad account, why can't I just login through launchpad? it provides openid, doesn't it? and I have a password already saved there <skx> can I submit this as a but somewhere? <skx> bug* <biggms> honk <starcraftman> do even public transit people go honk to get a lil help? Channels lil quiet. <starcraftman> I'm on Kubuntu lucid atm, I wanna install the gnome client and have installed it from apt-get but it seems all the dependencies aren't met. On startup just crashes. I've verified and on lucid in my vm works. Is there a way of tracking down all the packages u1 needs without me installing all the extra Gnome packages I don't need? <NateWiebe> Just did a fresh install of lucid. Connected my PC to my ubuntuone account. I'm using about 6mb of storage and my computer will not sync. In preferences, it changes between "sync in progress" and disconnected every few minutes. no files appear in the ubuntuone folder <starcraftman> NateWiebe: we might be waiting a bit, channel is quiet. <NateWiebe> starcraftman: whats the issue you have? <starcraftman> NateWiebe: client not working on kde at all even though I installed supposed gnome dependencies. <NateWiebe> that sucks.. im on gnome, the client works, but no syncing <duffydack> U1 sync has always been hit and miss since using lucid betas..for me. <NateWiebe> it worked great in karmic.. but using lucid there are many issues i have had during the past few weeks <NateWiebe> i changed some permissions in my home folder.. would that be a reason? <NateWiebe> duffydack: what should the Ubuntu One folder permissions be set to? <starcraftman> NateWiebe: I think I agree, my karmic box has no spotty issues with syncing. Just my two lucid ones, well when I was testing on lucid gnome. <starcraftman> well, if anyone in the channel comes back and has advice to support my issue, ping me please. <duffydack> NateWiebe, for mine (never used it, I use other folders, which is why I use U1 and not dropbox) its set to 775 <NateWiebe> should the owner and group be your username? <duffydack> NateWiebe, yeah, its in your ~ <duffydack> drwxrwxr-x 2 dean dean 4096 2010-04-17 13:52 Ubuntu One <NateWiebe> duanedesign: what command did you give me to track the progress of u1? <NateWiebe> (the other day) <biggms> NateWiebe .. i've been getitng the same symtoms for a few days now <biggms> Karmic and Lucid <biggms> ive got 800k on U1 and currently its taken 1hr to get the directory structure synced on my new install <biggms> took about 10/15 login attempts to actually connect too <duffydack> u1sdtool --waiting-content and u1sdtool --waiting-metadata <duffydack> u1sdtool --list-folders <duffydack> u1sdtool --s <duffydack> u1sdtool -s (sorry0 <duffydack> useful commands to remember. <NateWiebe> with u1sdtool -s, the only states that it goes in are "waiting" and "authenticate".. while in authenticate, description is "doing auth dance".. does this mean it isnt authenticating? <duffydack> NateWiebe, Im not a U1 troubleshooter, i`m just some dude with similar issues as other people in here :) Have you tried removing the computer account, and removing the 'ubuntuone' folders in your home and removing the key from 'passwords and enc keys' and starting again? <NateWiebe> im going to give it a shot <duffydack> Ive done that a couple of times.. <duffydack> the ubuntuone config folders are hidden in .config and some other places.. <duffydack> just do a find ~ -iname "ubuntuone" <duffydack> .cache and .config and some other.. <schaze> duanedesign: I did it. I removed my external shared folder which somehow was 'hanging' with u1sdtool --delete-folder=<ID> <schaze> after that the rest of the folder synced and all got green <schaze> Thanks! <hirisov> hi <duanedesign> hello hirisov <hirisov> anybody have an idea what could be the problem that prevent me adding directories to sync with u1? <hirisov> it doenst work from nautilus, nor with command line <hirisov> u1sdtool --create-folder=$HOME/Private <hirisov> should add ~/Private i guess to u1 sync but it just hangs up, i dont get back the prompt and --list-folders says "no folders" <duanedesign> hirisov: you can just r-click on a folder and select 'Sync w/ Ubuntu One' <hirisov> yeah after i do that --list-folders still says "no folders" <hirisov> and doesnt sync anything because of it ofc <duanedesign> ofc? <hirisov> of course <hirisov> hm starnge now list folders finally shows it <hirisov> can it be a delay? is this operation needs communication w/ the u1 server? <duanedesign> The servers are really overwhelmed right now because of the release. <duanedesign> there have been new servers added to help with the speed. Once things get back to normal it should work very well <NateWiebe> alright.. so now u1 has created the proper folders, but it still will not sync the files.. keeps switching between authenticate and disconnected <NateWiebe> so syncing the metadata worked fine, but the content syncing wont <duanedesign> hello NateWiebe <NateWiebe> hey <NateWiebe> duanedesign: any ideas? ^ <duanedesign> NateWiebe: it seems with the large increase in activity around the release has made it difficult to get Authenticated before timing out <NateWiebe> so its an issue on the server's side? <duanedesign> most likely <NateWiebe> okay.. hopefully its fixed soon <duanedesign> NateWiebe: i am thinking monday it should start to return to normal. With the new servers that have been added it should work very nicely <NateWiebe> awesome.. good to hear. u1 is a great service.. once it starts to be stable, im definitely going to consider upgrading to 50gb to help support <duffydack> U1 is great... or will be... <duffydack> just not having to dump everything in 1 folder is a big win for me..I hate the idea of having 1 folder to drop everything in.. <duanedesign> yeah <duanedesign> there is some really cool stuff they are working on too <duffydack> and the share and make a public URL from desktop = ftw <NateWiebe> duffydack: i second that.. its a HUGE plus <duffydack> which most of the time is near instant <duanedesign> i am hoping for integration with something like zoho <duanedesign> which is a Google Docs type of service <duffydack> now I just need to get my windows loved up friends using IE to switch to something good that can display ubuntuone shares <NateWiebe> one thing im hoping for is better phone support, but thats up to the company they are using <duffydack> "IE : page cannot be displayed" "IE is good" ahem..... <NateWiebe> offtopic, but its strange why ms is showing off the fact that ie9 gets 55/100 on the acid3 test.. thats horrible <NateWiebe> but it is better than the 15ish they got on ie8 <duffydack> Im not a web dev guy but ive made a couple of pages in my time, 1 had some flash in it, and I had to visit hell and sell my soul to get IE to display it right... <duanedesign> yeah i am amazed at how bad that browser is <NateWiebe> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/benchmarks/Acid3/Default.html <duffydack> his argument was "98% of the world use it".. well , I just LOL`d. <duffydack> 97% of if dont even know they are using it! <hirisov> sorry for being OT but maybe anybody knows what repository i need to add to be able to install sun java jre to ubuntu 10.04 pls? <duffydack> hirisov, partner <hirisov> duffydack, thanks! <duffydack> hirisov, openjre not good enough ? <hirisov> the noiq poker client doesn't seem to work with it unfortunatelly <duanedesign> sudo add-apt-repository âdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partnerâ <hirisov> hm just uncommented in sources.list, that should be ok also isnt it? <duanedesign> yeah <hirisov> ty, brb <nbv4> is there a command line client for ubuntu one? <topyli> nbv4, yes, u1sdtool <duffydack> so my share isnt working <duffydack> http://ubuntuone.com/p/1gs/ <dentaku> #hi <duanedesign> hello dentaku <dentaku> Just upgraded to 10.04 and tried UbuntuOne ... therte is no "Add this computer" button! <duanedesign> dentaku: yeah that is a bug that is hitting some people <dentaku> I found thi s: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How do I add my computer? <dentaku> but it doesn't work ... <dentaku> I wonder why this new social web integration doesn't offer a IRC client .. <duanedesign> dentaku: you can access IRC from Empathy <duanedesign> dentaku: you ran u1sdtool -q; killall-ubuntuone-login and then opened the client and it did not open firefox <dentaku> Nope, I types: u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c <dentaku> And nothing happened <dentaku> no browser popped up <duanedesign> firefox is your default browser? <dentaku> when I open System > Einstellungen > Ubuntu One and klick "Konto verwalten" (manage account) the browser just goes to the same sign in page. <dentaku> No OPera is my browser. <duanedesign> dentaku: that might be the issue. Do you have Firefox installed? <dentaku> yes, I can also start firefox. I also tried sign up in FireFox but there are the same web pages without a "add this computer" button. <duanedesign> yeah it wont work if you go there #ubuntuone 2010-05-02 <duanedesign> The client needs to launch it as a part of the process <duanedesign> System > Preferences > Preffered Applications <duanedesign> and set Firefox as your browser. <duanedesign> It seems Opera works fine on the website, except for the sign up process <dentaku> Nope, I did what you suggested but FireFox behaves the same: I have to sign in and then I see my Ubuntu One accoount - but nowhere an "add this computer" link ... :-( <duanedesign> after changing your browser to FF. Close the client. Run u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login. Then open Ubuntu One from the Me Menu <dentaku> Yahooo!!!! That worked! <duanedesign> \o/ <duanedesign> opera should work fine in your daily use of the site. The service is a little slow right now because of the spike in activity from the release <dentaku> Now UbuntuOne Prefs is showing "synchronizing..." .... ??? <itsme> henk <duanedesign> hello itsme <dentaku> hi <itsme> hello duanedesign! i hope my question is not too stupid... i want to know, is there a windows client for ubuntu one? <duanedesign> itsme: i know there has been an effort to create one <duanedesign> itsme: thats a good question though. I am not sure what its current status is. <itsme> i already asked google, unfortunately it has no answer... <mattgriffin> duanedesign, itsme: we're thinking about it. it would be a big change b/c there's not a lot of windows development experience currently on the Ubuntu One team. <dentaku> thanks duanedesign! <mattgriffin> duanedesign, itsme: the good thing is that if we committed to doing a windows client, we wouldn't have to wait until 10.10 to release it b/c it's not dependent on the Ubuntu release cycle. we'll see... lots of other things we want to do over the next 6 months. <duanedesign> thank you mattgriffin <mattgriffin> how is sync performing for everyone today? we were hit pretty hard with lots of new users after the launch on Thursday so it definitely got slower. <itsme> ok - thanks to all <duanedesign> mattgriffin: i know there was talk of having a session at the last PyCon. But had not heard much since <mattgriffin> duanedesign: yeah. i think it turned into more of a planning session but nothing material resulted. <dentaku> Just try it now and it still breaks up. <mattgriffin> i know contacts and notes sync between the desktop and the cloud have been disabled for now. this is a database capacity issue that we're working on. <duanedesign> dentaku: you got your computer added? You are having trouble connecting? <duanedesign> mattgriffin: ahh. So it will be disabled on weekends till the spike in activity goes down. <mattgriffin> duanedesign: at least this weekend. i think it's a choice of disable sync or have more database outages... at least viewing through the browser is still possible. <duanedesign> mattgriffin: right. Makes sense <dentaku> yes, my computer is added now. the UbuntuOne app just shows "synchronizing...". <dentaku> so i will try the next days. I don't need UbuntuOne but I want to buy a MP3 album on UbuntuOne Musicstore (that I didn't find anywhere else!) and it just seems to work with an UbuntuOne account. <duanedesign> dentaku: yes i found a lot of good music on the store. It has a nice selection <dentaku> I found the Album "Aquarium" from Rauschfaktor which I can't find on any other internet music store. If this UbuntuOne finally works, I will by this album. I guess, Canonical does somehow earn some pennies from the MusicSTore(?) ... <kklimonda> honk <duanedesign> hello kklimonda <kklimonda> duanedesign: lets wait a moment and see if I've managed to unstuck my u1 - are there any server problems with file syncing atm? <duanedesign> kklimonda: the server seem to be experiencing a large amount of traffic associated with the release <kklimonda> duanedesign: looks like it's a false alarm and after i've restarted client it started doing something. But it's too slow to call it gratifying.. <kklimonda> I've managed to queue over 100 metadata tasks and now they just sip one query per minute.. <duanedesign> yeah i think everyone who downloaded the Lucid release is now filling up there Ubutnu One folders <kklimonda> that's really bad.. we have a release every 6 month, you guys release new features between ubuntu releases and every time servers are hit hard and nothing works for day as it should.. <kklimonda> maybe new users shouldn't be allowed to get u1 account for few days? ;) <kklimonda> for days*.. <duanedesign> ha ha, right. I am sure the experience of this release will trigger some conversations among the team anout how to better handle these spikes in users <duanedesign> new servers were added the week prior to the release. I think the increase in activity was just a lot more than expected <bp0> what folder is synced for ubunut one? <bp0> where do i look for the file? <kklimonda> bp0: $HOME/Ubuntu One/ <wgrant> I was struggling to sync at even 100KB/s yesterday. <bp0> it doesn't show a file i uploaded in the browser <kklimonda> bp0: I'd say servers are under too much load right now and because of that you have this problem but you can always call developers and get a more official response <bp0> eh <bp0> ok <bp0> is ubuntu one open source? <kklimonda> the client is <bp0> but not server? <kklimonda> no <bp0> gmm <sumosu> oh hai <sumosu> ubuntu one preferences says "synchronisation in progress" but its not downloading anything according to system monitor <beuno> sumosu, "u1sdtools -s" will tell you what it's doing <sumosu> hmm <wgrant> Ah, handy. <sumosu> tx for that hint <sumosu> but i am still struggling:) <beuno> sumosu, yeah, servers are a bit overloaded due to the release <beuno> so some operations are slow <sumosu> oh i see <beuno> wgrant, u1sdtools has all kinds of interesting things <sumosu> i have stuff on my ubuntu one account.. where would it show up in my filesystem? <bp0> ~/Ubuntu One <sumosu> would that show up in "places" menu? <wgrant> beuno: So it seems. Looks pretty handy -- I'd forgetten its existence. <wgrant> sumosu: Places->Home Folder->Ubuntu One <sumosu> wgrant: ah i see it. thanks <lmnopqrs> is there any way to disable all syncing of every kind and only use ubuntu one for online storage through a web browser and the music store? no ubuntu one folder syncing, no bookmarks, no tomboy, no evolution, no anything else i don't know about <bp0> lmnopqrs, uncheck everything <bp0> in the services tab <lmnopqrs> thanks. i burned it completely off my system out of extreme paranoia before i even opened it, so i didn't know if there was an obvious answer in there or not <DanaG> argh. for the past few hours, ubuntuone has been using huge mounts of iowait time, bogging down the system.... <DanaG> and it's using 30% of my 4 gigs of RAM. <lmnopqrs> is anyone/everyone else getting a "Service Temporarily Unavailable" from Ubuntu One when trying to upload a file through a browser? is the service down? <lmnopqrs> oh man, even the status status link in the ubuntu wiki is giving an error <lmnopqrs> honk <kermiac> lmnopqrs: hi, I'm not getting those errors for the wiki or the website <lmnopqrs> hi kermiac. wiki is up now. i keep getting a 503 when uploading to the site. i don't have the client installed, i was hoping it would work without it <kermiac> but it may be related to http://identi.ca/notice/30584701 <lmnopqrs> thanks, that could be it. i'll try it again later <kermiac> the team is adding more servers to help with load balancing issues - hopefully things should speed up again next week <lmnopqrs> i hope it works out, thanks again <hoonteke> I've just done a bit of reading about the whole music setup y'all have got going on. Good job for doing the ambitious bit and get the music store incorporated into Rhythmbox. More than just the music store, but good deal partnering with the third party company so as to get more popular music in there. <hoonteke> I say this next with the full realization that it likely won't happen, but there are two things keeping me from purchasing music from the store, and they're the same reasons I won't purchase music from iTunes, or most music services out there: <hoonteke> 1. Once I've bought the music, I can only download it three times before I have to repurchase it. If I've bought, I've bought it, no matter how many times I want to download it. <hoonteke> 2. The store only offers mp3 format. Call me an idealist, but I want multiple formats. It's technically possible to offer them in any format that exists, via a conversion on-the-fly from the server end, but it's done by only two companies of which I'm aware. Frustrating. <hoonteke> anyhoo, good stuff getting the store up there, and I do hope it proves profitable. Hopefully, my pickiness is in the minority ... <joshuahoover> hoonteke: hi <hoonteke> hello <joshuahoover> hoonteke: #1 - actually, the download goes to your u1 storage in the cloud so you aren't limited by re-downloads after that <hoonteke> hmm, then perhaps I need to reread that bit about 3 times ... just a sec <joshuahoover> hoonteke: #2 - yes, we'd love to see other formats supported but the major labels seem pretty set on mp3 as the standard drm-free option <hoonteke> yep. I figure all of "us" in the FOSS world are well aware of number 2, but I figured it might help to hear from a non-dev personality type. <joshuahoover> hoonteke: right, it's a biz thing, not a tech thing in terms of encoding choices (unfortunately) <joshuahoover> hoonteke: please let me know where you're getting the impression about #1, as i'd like to fix that so it's not confusing :) <hoonteke> yep. makes sense. and, from a biz perspective, it makes (unfortunate) sense that you wouldn't go with magnatune. Because they're mucho friendlier as far as I can tell, but also mucho smaller. <hoonteke> working on that right now ... <hoonteke> joshuahoover: ah, there we go. Inside the Ubuntu One Rhythmbox plugin, click the help link. <hoonteke> Then, it's the "Where can I review my purchase history?" section. <hoonteke> For example, I'm a fiddler, and would definitely move the files around, probably inside of two months. <joshuahoover> hoonteke: got it...we need to clarify it, it's confusing <hoonteke> well, glad my debrief could prove helpful then. :-) <joshuahoover> hoonteke: definitely...i'll chat with someone about it on monday and we'll update it to be clearer <hoonteke> :-) gotta get a non-tech person on that. We non-devs are stoopid, dontcha no? <joshuahoover> hoonteke: heh <foo123> any word on encryption support for couchdb? <RachaelB> hi all.... is there any reason why i can't get a clean install of 10.04 to sync the contacts down to evolution? it worked fine with a straight upgrade on a different machine! <Freyr> can i use ubuntu one with kde ? <RachaelB> ive tried everything i can think off <RachaelB> @freyr yes you can <Freyr> thank you <RachaelB> sorry i disappeared then <RachaelB> so... any ideas on why my contacts wont syn down to evolution on a clean install? <kklimonda> RachaelB: it has been disabled yesterday because of the load. they are workin on getting it up (or at least they are supposed to :) ) <RachaelB> kklimonda: ahhhhhh *thank you*!!! :-D i thought i was going crazy and had done something really stupid that i couldnt figure out! <kklimonda> RachaelB: when you log in onto http://one.ubuntu.com/dashboard you can see at the right the most recent messages about various problems. <RachaelB> kklimonda: ive not checked this morning... the last time i looked was late last night and it didnt say anything. thanks for your help! at least i know its not my problem :) bye x <foo123> does anyone know if clientside encryption of the couch-db databases is supported with ubuntu one? <GatuRatz> honk <kklimonda> hmm, I have a (yet another) minor issue.. some files I've uploaded to U1 are still shown in the webui as "uploading" <GatuRatz> gatu@gaturatz:~$ u1sdtool -s <GatuRatz> State: AUTHENTICATE <GatuRatz> connection: With User With Network <GatuRatz> description: doing auth dance <GatuRatz> is_connected: True <GatuRatz> is_error: False <GatuRatz> is_online: False <GatuRatz> queues: WORKING_ON_CONTENT <GatuRatz> it stays there.... <GatuRatz> from my netbook it works <GatuRatz> by from the desktop computer not <GatuRatz> now it changed to <GatuRatz> gatu@gaturatz:~$ u1sdtool -s <GatuRatz> State: WAITING <GatuRatz> connection: With User With Network <GatuRatz> description: waiting before try connecting again <GatuRatz> is_connected: False <GatuRatz> is_error: False <GatuRatz> is_online: False <GatuRatz> queues: WORKING_ON_CONTENT <GatuRatz> anyone knows what is happening? <kklimonda> GatuRatz: it's most likely caused by the server load <GatuRatz> hm, but on the other computer it works <GatuRatz> I installed this computer this morning <GatuRatz> and it never worked well on this <GatuRatz> also the folder was never created on "places" <roogy> hello! while couchdb is under maintenance, is the file sync also disabled at the moment? <GatuRatz> roogy, you seem to have the same problem as I <GatuRatz> can you open a console and type: u1sdtool -s <roogy> it only sets up the directory structure, but it does not transfer the files! <GatuRatz> this should give you the status <roogy> State: QUEUE_MANAGER <roogy> staying at this message for all the time <GatuRatz> gatu@gaturatz:~$ u1sdtool -s <GatuRatz> State: WAITING <GatuRatz> connection: With User With Network <GatuRatz> description: waiting before try connecting again <GatuRatz> is_connected: False <GatuRatz> is_error: False <GatuRatz> is_online: False <GatuRatz> queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH <roogy> syncdaemon-exceptions.log says: Failure: ubuntuone.storageprotocol.errors.TryAgainError: TRY_AGAIN <roogy> alright, i am not the only one affected by this <GatuRatz> where did you find this log? <roogy> ~/.cache/ubuntuone/logs/ <GatuRatz> 2010-05-02 14:13:49,460 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error: <GatuRatz> TRY_AGAIN <GatuRatz> 2010-05-02 14:15:49,461 - twisted - ERROR - Unhandled error in Deferred: <GatuRatz> 2010-05-02 14:15:49,462 - twisted - ERROR - Unhandled Error <GatuRatz> Traceback (most recent call last): <GatuRatz> Failure: ubuntuone.storageprotocol.errors.TryAgainError: TRY_AGAIN <GatuRatz> so we are two already <GatuRatz> strange thing is that on my netbook it works <roogy> seems like the service is unavailable while they are working on it <GatuRatz> quite slowly but it connects <Treenaks> it's very slow <Treenaks> Maybe everybody is buying music :) <roogy> here it connects, too, but does not upload the files. just writes the structure and stops <roogy> maybe ;) <GatuRatz> luckily I did not buy music yet <roogy> well, okay, then we will probably just have to wait till it is fixed <GatuRatz> but I used the free day to set up my home computer, I changed from Sidux to Ubuntu <GatuRatz> I will have to wait also <roogy> upgraded to 10.04 yesterday <GatuRatz> the ubuntuone seems not be suited for mission critical tasks.... <roogy> not for the moment <roogy> okay, i'll shut the machine down and go out then... thank you GatuRatz and have a nice day! <roogy> cu <exorzizt> honk <exorzizt> hey all <exorzizt> honk <mattgriffin> exorzizt: ping <exorzizt> i need some help... nothings really working here <mattgriffin> exorzizt: were you able to add your computer to sync with ubuntu one? <exorzizt> got problems with syncing data and finally decided to reinstall ubuntuone (with the FAQ) <exorzizt> i ve been able to, but now <mattgriffin> exorzizt: ok. <exorzizt> it says theres empty device list <mattgriffin> exorzizt: does Ubuntu One Preferences have your name displayed properly on the Account tab? <exorzizt> no. when i start preferences window there comes up Error. Got empty result for devices list <mattgriffin> exorzizt: hmm <exorzizt> after completley reinstalling it two times (!) <lachouffe> hi ! <mattgriffin> exorzizt: try this... close Ubuntu One Preferences; go to Apps > Accessories > Pass & Encrypt Keys <exorzizt> ok <lachouffe> I need some help, I've installed 10.04, then I sign in to ubuntu one <lachouffe> and bought some music, but it was not sync <lachouffe> so I tried (and it was a mistake..) to unregister my PC from the web interface <mattgriffin> LaChouffe: sync is slow with all of the new users. you can retrieve your music in the meantime from https://one.ubuntu.com/files <exorzizt> before i reinstalled, i deleted the ubuntuOne token from pass&encrypt keys <mattgriffin> exorzizt: ok <mattgriffin> exorzizt: is it there now? <lachouffe> and now when I try to relaunch the client from the meMenu it freez <exorzizt> theres a new one yes <mattgriffin> LaChouffe: have you searched Launchpad Bugs and Launchpad Answers? i think I've seen similar things reported and the solution may be found there <lachouffe> I made some google search but nothing cames ... <mattgriffin> exorzizt: i'm not sure i can help you. not technical enough. sorry <lachouffe> I will try launchpad <exorzizt> ok mattgriffin thx <mattgriffin> :) <exorzizt> but where can i find help ^ <mattgriffin> exorzizt: there should be more technical people joining later today. since it's the weekend, the developers are resting but some great community members have accumulated a lot of technical knowledge and they will probably be joining later today. <exorzizt> ok thx <mattgriffin> exorzizt: i guess you already know about https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone <exorzizt> yes :| <mattgriffin> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ <lachouffe> is then any way to reset all my U1 settings ? <lachouffe> and start from the start ? <exorzizt> hehe i know it inside out :D <mattgriffin> LaChouffe: not in Ubuntu One Preferences. there may be a command-line tool but i don't know. <mattgriffin> ok. gotta go for now. <exorzizt> lachouffe, ive done that 5 minutes ago <exorzizt> theres an entry in the faq <lachouffe> exorzizt, can you point me there ? <exorzizt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20I%20completely%20remove%20and%20reinstall%20the%20Ubuntu%20One%20client%20software? <lachouffe> exorzizt, thanks <lachouffe> exorzizt, thanks a lot that works again !!! <exorzizt> no problem :) <pmjdebruijn> hi all, I'm having issues with Ubuntu one, I've deleted all the machine association via de webinterface, and I've cleaned up all the files in my homedir, yet the preferences applet is still getting stuck <pmjdebruijn> maybe there is stuff left in couchdb? <pmjdebruijn> how can I cleanup couchdb? <GatuRatz> Hi pmjdebruijn: it seems that it is broken <pmjdebruijn> what is broken? <pmjdebruijn> I think the stuff left in couchdb is my problem <GatuRatz> I could update to a newer version of ubuntuone <GatuRatz> now the settings menu works <pmjdebruijn> huh? <GatuRatz> but the syncronizing does not work anyway <pmjdebruijn> I'm already on the latest version <GatuRatz> I took is from lucid-proposed <GatuRatz> but is makes no sense <pmjdebruijn> yes, but then I'll still have invalid stuff in couchdb <GatuRatz> hm, I do not use the couchdb, what is this? <pmjdebruijn> you do <pmjdebruijn> desktopcouch <pmjdebruijn> ubuntuone uses it <GatuRatz> I have a rather fresh install <GatuRatz> I installed Ubuntu this morning <GatuRatz> But it is broken in general <GatuRatz> On my netbook same issue <lachouffe_> does anyone tried to buy song with u1 ? <lachouffe_> cause i did and i cannot see them in rhythmbox, but i can in the web interface <GatuRatz> lachouffe, the whole ubuntuone thing seems to be broken <lachouffe_> GatuRatz, ok but It seeme that note sync with tomboy is working well <GatuRatz> lachouffe_, some issues seem to work, some others dont <lachouffe_> ok so I just have to relax and wait ! <lachouffe_> i'm not alone so ! <lachouffe_> thanks and bye <GatuRatz> yes, we all share the same problem <Bana> hello <Bana> i need help <jvargas> hi <Bana> hi <jvargas> just upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 and installed One. <Bana> i need some help here <jvargas> but application doesnt appear on menu, and if I run ubuntuone-lauch from console it does not start neither shows something on terminal... <jvargas> any idea how to start the app? <Bana> im having problems with One, every time i open it it crashes <Bana> and i dont know why <Bana> SOME ONE HELP!!!!!! <pmjdebruijn> please have some patience <hirisov> hi <hirisov> anybody knows pls is file sync now working well officially? <hirisov> if* <hirisov> i have to lapop, let's say c1 and c2. Ã­in c1 i marked a folde for sync, and i can see it's content in the u1 web iterface <hirisov> now i installed u10.04 on c2 as well, logged in
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