#ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-01 <Ponch0> hey guys so I installed 13.04 gnome remix, I added a ppa for the new gnome web browser - did sudo update & and upgrade - and gdm wouldn't start being a noob that I am, I had to reinstall - in that case what are my options? I was able to get into the terminal with f1 <Ponch0> gdm wouldn't start after restart that is. <Ponch0> i had the mouse cursor <darkxst> Ponch0, did you use 'dist-upgrade'? <Ponch0> Also - one more question - what is a staging PPA I can add that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 staging <Ponch0> nope just 'upgrade' <darkxst> Ponch0, you must do 'dist-upgrade'! <Ponch0> that will keep me up to date with gnome 3 updates without adding that unity gunk. <darkxst> staging ppa is for things that still have regressions and/or known issues <Ponch0> oh than the 'stable' ppa? <Ponch0> oops on the upgrade - good to know for future reference I probably installed lightdm and there was some type of conflict. <darkxst> Ponch0, just run it now, it should fix things <Ponch0> I already reinstalled the system I have to set everything up again hehe. <darkxst> oh <Ponch0> I couldn't get on the computer to look up what I could do - it was my only option. <Ponch0> I couldn't get to the part where it asked me for login. <Ponch0> so is there a PPA I could add that will add the stable gnome apps - it seems pretty bare which I guess isn't a bad thing. <Ponch0> and stable updates? or is that already covered? <darkxst> Ponch0, gnome3 PPA is stable <Ponch0> and if I add that - it won't mess up my install with some unity gunk right? <darkxst> Ponch0, why would we have unity gunk in a gnome3 ppa? <Ponch0> lol because somehow I just ended up without being able to log in by just adding the gnome web browser ppa <Ponch0> but now I know that wasn't the reason. <Ponch0> darkxst: anyway thank you for answering my seemingly silly questions. <darkxst> np <Ponch0> so a quick recap - I should never do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" but rather "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?? <darkxst> jbicha, ok to copy updated g-c-c to staging? <jbicha> darkxst: I didn't test it, but I trust your judgment <jbicha> you have to have a hard-coded list of possible external panels? <darkxst> that is only for the launchers <jbicha> and things work fine if those external panels aren't installed? <darkxst> actual .so panels get loaded dynamically. <darkxst> jbicha, sure, it will just ignore any entry it can't find the desktop file for <darkxst> the only other alternative was to bring back the gmenu code, and scan all desktop files. <darkxst> and that is overly complicated and messy code. <jbicha> it might be better; that way we can tell apps that only provide external launchers to ship a separate .desktop with NotShowIn=Unity; and the settings panel with NotShowIn=GNOME; <jbicha> gufw (gui-ufw) is another one <jbicha> myunity was one but that only lasted a few months <darkxst> yeh I got gufw in the patch already <jbicha> oh it doesn't need to be renamed to match the new naming convention? <darkxst> no, launchers dont need to have a specific name format, since they are just read from the list. <jbicha> ok <jbicha> darkxst: there's an interesting patch at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692253 I don't think I'll be able to look into it at the moment <ubot5> Gnome bug 692253 in User Accounts "user-accounts: empty login history window" [Normal,Unconfirmed] <jbicha> darkxst: you're not on saucy yet are you? <darkxst> yeh <jbicha> I might have broken gnome-shell 3.6 by uploading gjs today <darkxst> gjs 1.36? <jbicha> yes <darkxst> 3.6 works fine with that, however there was one redundant line in the JS that needed to be removed <darkxst> not sure if that was fixed upstream <darkxst> jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5621204/ <jbicha> darkxst: do you want to make a debdiff for that? <darkxst> sure <darkxst> jbicha, http://pastebin.com/rutneiZR <jbicha> cool, gnome-control-center works <jbicha> darkxst: thanks, good night <darkxst> np, good night <Ponch0> Hello, so my ubuntu software center is crashing again, I cannot open it or rather I open it and it immediately closes. So i purged it and tried to reinstall it - here's what popped up and i'm not sure what it means http://pastebin.com/TxD80K9D <darkxst> ricotz, are we using gnome region panel (or language selector) in 3.6 g-c-c? I don't remember <user> Please help me. How can I install ubuntu gnome with efi? <Mattish91> hello <Mattish91> any one else but me who got troubbles with gnome updates_ <Mattish91> ?| <Mattish91> hello? <Mattish91> anyone here?? <darkxst> what troubles? <darkxst> did you do a dist-upgrade? <Mattish91> Yes, and then updated gnome to gnome 3.8 <Mattish91> now i cant login due to a gnome error <darkxst> can you paste the error? <Mattish91> its just Cant load gnome <Mattish91> so i wont be able to login <darkxst> and you did a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' after installing the ppa? <Mattish91> yes <Mattish91> also apt-get update <Mattish91> before <darkxst> Mattish91, I need to see logs <Mattish91> how do i get those? im on a live usb atm <darkxst> ~/.cache/gdm/session.log <Mattish91> ok 1 sec <darkxst> /var/log/gdm/* <Mattish91> im not allowed to see any logs in that folder, should i change the permissions? <darkxst> sudo -s <Mattish91> the folder is empty :S <darkxst> are you using gdm? <Mattish91> yes, i had to update the folder :S <Mattish91> what file did you need? <darkxst> start with :0-greeter.log <Mattish91> can i send that file or do i need to copy it? <darkxst> Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com <darkxst> also ~/.cache/gdm/session.log (if things got that far) <Mattish91> :o-greeter.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5622390/ <darkxst> could be a glx problem, what graphics card do you have? <Mattish91> Nvidia Geforce gt 555M <darkxst> nvidia blob or nouveau? <Mattish91> have no idea <Mattish91> what does that mean? :P im from sweden, im sorry :P <darkxst> propriety driver? or open source driver? <Mattish91> i dont know, havn't been asked to install any graphics driver, i guess open source then? <darkxst> probably <darkxst> try install 'nvidia-current' <Mattish91> is there any way to install drivers from a live usb or do i have to re install? it doesnt matters what i do, i dont have anything important in the distro. <darkxst> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current <darkxst> then reboot <Mattish91> well i got E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current <darkxst> oh you might need to enable multiverse or something <Mattish91> ok <Mattish91> multiverse should be enabled, still got E: Unable to lacate package nvidia-current <darkxst> sorry its in restricted <Mattish91> now it's working,restarted terminal and got it installing <Mattish91> thanks for your help, ill try to restart now then :) <sweeze> anyone having trouble getting empathy to connect to aim/yahoo (haze) accounts w/ the staging ppa enabled? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1174369 ) <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1174369 in Ubuntu GNOME "aim/yahoo accounts never connect" [Undecided,New] <FrozenFire> Is it possible to disable notifications of Empathy contacts coming online/going offline? <FrozenFire> That's my biggest beef with Empathy and the notification system on gnome-shell, because the notification area blocks the most important part of my screen. #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-02 <darkxst> oh wow, we are killing the distrowatch stats considering we have only been on there 1 week <darkxst> Popularity (hits per day): 12 months: 152 (53), 6 months: 103 (106), 3 months: 62 (213), 4 weeks: 19 (647), 1 week: 3 (2,429) <kyky> Hi <kyky> I'm searching how to add some transparency to the pannel and windows <kyky> is it possible without using a theme ? <camelinahat> Hrmm... rough day today. I've twice now had gnome-shell crash on me this morning :( <camelinahat> kyky No, not without an extension you cannot add transparency. In fact in later versions of GNOME apps transparency is being removed from them. <kyky> is there an extension to add transparency ? <camelinahat> There was one, but it doesn't seem to be maintained much now.. Called Opacify <kyky> I'll give a try, thanks :) <Marcantonio98> Hi :D <Forage> Is it me, or are the online accounts for IRC and such not functioning any more in Raring? Opening the options for a specific account gives me an empty section (no input fields). <Forage> This was the case before and after installing the stable gnome3 ppa packages <Forage> It also appears that non of the previous account are connecting in the first place. I can't join an IRC channel any more and I see no contacts online in Empathy <Forage> trying to add a new account gives me the same empty options section <camelinahat> Forage, I have option, but trying to join caused an error (as you just saw) <camelinathat_> Seems to have worked this time however. <Forage> Where (gnome, launchpad) and at which package should I report this? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-03 <wallago> Can anyone help. I am trying to configure the Terminal to change the tab name whenever i ssh to a another machine. <wallago> The only method i have found is editing the .bashrc on the remote server <wallago> but it is not practical as i have over 100 servers to configure <wallago> Im using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the default terminal <darkxst> lol, we really need a bot, to tell people to be !patient <tommie-lie> to be not patient? <tommie-lie> :-) <darkxst> tommie-lie, no, I thought that might trigger ubot, but apparently not <darkxst> !patience <ubot5> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ <tommie-lie> darkxst: I thought it was clear that it was a pun :-P <darkxst> tommie-lie, that was just a test ;) <darkxst> but it is quite annoying when people ask questions, and you try to answer but they are gone <darkxst> it seems the average life-span of a newbie on IRC is about 2mins <tommie-lie> yes, because in times where "the Internet" is only inside the Firefox window, IRC has become too difficult for most <crw> good morning <crw> what's the best way to reinitialize your environment, without losing any application states or logging out, after gnome-shell crashes? <crw> sometimes it relaunches itself, sometimes it doesn't and i have to switch over to a terminal, log-in and run gnome-shell manually or restart the gdm service <crw> either way, sometimes i'm left without shell extensions, which is a bummer <crw> tweak-tool says the shell extensions are on, but they're not working <camelinahat> crw, try Alt+F2 and type in 'r' or 'restart' (see: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet) <crw> righty-o, thanks <crw> gnome-shell restarted, one shell extension loaded, another didn't, another has never worked and still isn't :P <crw> let me investigate that link a bit <crw> also; sometime when gnome-shell crashes, alt-f2 doesn't work and i've gotta ctrl-alt-f1 or whatever to get to a shell to restart it <crw> err, sometimes* <crw> aha, looking glass looks cool, will have to explore that a bit <crw> haha yeeeeah, so Places extension is giving me an error and Systemmonitor just isn't doing anything. gonna log out and back in and see what's up <crw> bbiab <sourav> helloo guys how to install gnome 3.8 ? <crw> eh, looks like problems with the shell extensions themselves, i've submitted bug reports <dd> Is it possible to install Cinnamon on Gnome 3.8 ? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-04 <gnometester520> hi everyone , has anyone upgraded gnome to 3.8 ? <Marcantonio98> Good day :D <darkxst> Marcantonio98, hi <Marcantonio98> I had a problem, I can tell you so you help me? <vandborg> Hi guys. Is there a network install of this distro? Because I've been unsuccesful installing it from a USB. My computer have some weird behaviour when I try this, not just this distro, but all bootable usb. I worked before, but it doesn't work now. And the thing is I don't have any burnable DVD lying around, so I was wondering if there is a network install version there could be fitted on a CD <vandborg> Ah what the hell. I'll go to the store a buy a DVD-RW <DaVinciIT> hi all. I've a problem. Windows does not have the 'min, max, restore' button. I need close it with F4 Key. how to? <Marcantonio98> Hi :D <netherlands6> Hi I would like to know where to download ubuntu-gnome 12.04 please <DarkEra> netherlands6, there is no official Ubuntu Gnome 12.04 afaik. 13.04 is the first official release of the project under the Ubuntu flag <netherlands6> ok it doesn't exist I find the 12.10 instead the 13.04 I have it already and I already love it I got on it gnome, razorqt, openbox and cinnamon thank for the comlete remove of unity you did a great job on that <Storm_> Hey does anyone know why i can't install ubnutu-Gnome? <Storm_> ? <jrafante89> is someone use radeon power profile gnome shell app? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-05 <redtape> Hi there 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab: tried everything on Lili and UNetbootin to get 13.04 from last month going off a USB but cannot install the basic O/S, with ubuntu-gnome. <redtape> I tried the 'File Integrity' checker as I can get that far , and it says that there is " 1 file corrupt " .. not sure how to proceed. (??) .. <redtape> I will scan the websites while I die of fatigue, but some assistant would be helpful, thank-you. <redtape> Just read the 'known bugs' list .. Looks like I can use the partioning tool . but it all goes /arthur/ after that, i.e. it is impossible to install G-ubuntu on any kind of partition . It's either we want your whole hard disk, or montgomeryrobert@example.net. <redtape> I find this typical of this organisation as they are numb to users' back-acheing concerns regards-to the gnome [project] .. mmmmmmpft ,,, It is a FAIL but I think this has been well orchestrated to tie in with their release diary, not mine. <redtape> [as if anyone' cared] <ch622> Hi - I just performed a fresh install of ubuntu gnome 13.04. After reboot, I opened up the proprietary drivers pain in system settings and selected the newest nvidia driver (so that dual monitors/proper resolution would work, etc.). I then hit reboot - the system has been stuck, just showing wallpaper, for over an hour. What should I do? <fluo75> Hi, Am I the only one who has the "Tab" (ALT+TAB) who crashes once in a while. Had this problem on Gnome-Ubuntu 13.04 and also on "Alternate Tab" on ubuntu 12.10 (on another PC) <fluo75> Hi, Am I the only one who has the "Tab" (ALT+TAB) who crashes once in a while? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-06 <NicksSpleen> Hi. I always install gnome right after I install ubuntu. I was just wondering if there are any cons/considerations to using this disto instead? <pascalts> Hay, I have got a little problem with UbuntuGNOME 13.0 amd64. Everytime I open the menue and search somethin (e.g. firefox) after 1 sec or so the whole system freezes for 1 second. After that the system runs normal. I have an AMD 6-core CPU & an AMD Graphic-Card with the last drivers from AMD installed. May you help me? <pascalts> *13.04 <pascalts> here is a screen-record: https://www.dropbox.com/s/76wxvtydp78tacn/VID_20130506_132156.3gp <atrus> so, with 13.04 + gnome3ppa + staging ppa.... how does one get into the "classic" gnome desktop? Ie, the new gnome-shell based on in 3.8? (if I understand this correctly) <camelinahat> atrus, It's a separate package just trying to find the name again (not installed by default) <atrus> hm. there is a gnome-session-fallback version 3.8.x in the ppas... <atrus> but ... huh. that still seems to want gnome-panel, which doesn't exist in 3.8..... <camelinahat> Ah it may be that you need the 'testing' PPA as well. Which I'd really not recommend on any production machine. <jaysonr> atrus: if you upgraded to 3.8 from the PPA install 'gnome-shell-extensions' and then you will have GNOME Classic as an option at logon <atrus> jaysonr: ah, of course, that makes sense. <atrus> hard to get from A to B as a user of course. maybe ubuntu-gnome-desktop should depend on that? <jaysonr> atrus: it should at least be better documented, I think. I had to google around to figure it out, and then ended up not even liking it and using Shell instead :-/ <atrus> also, is it possible to get the monitor-edge-pressure things that are supposed to work with gnome3.8 to work under 13.04? <darkxst> atrus, it is, but not easily <darkxst> you need to install x-staging and then rebuild mutter <atrus> hm. not so-so bad. <darkxst> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging <atrus> neat. that does indeed seem to work right. #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-07 <Tumlee> Where does gnome-screenshot save all of its screenshots? I keep activating it accidentally. <Tumlee> gnome-screenshot --help didn't reveal any useful information to me and neither did a google search <Tumlee> Nevermind, I found them. <jaysonr> is anyone else running 3.8 from the PPA getting crashes at logon? <jaysonr> sometimes it'll not crash, but my "X" on my close button is black. <jaysonr> it'll turn white if I do an alt+f2/r to restart shell <jaysonr> other times it'll crash the first time I open a window and then it's white. <darkxst> jaysonr, I have not seen that <darkxst> file a bug with ubuntu-bug after reproducing the crash <jpickett> is there any way to hide the titlebar of windows? on a laptop the webpage doesn't start until 20% down the screen <jaysonr> darkxst: done (I think) <darkxst> jaysonr, link? <darkxst> jpickett, I think there is an extension for that <jaysonr> darkxst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1177178 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1177178 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "GNOME-Shell crashes at logon after launching first application " [Undecided,New] <jaysonr> darkxst: if I didn't do something right, let me know, and I'll close that one and do it again <enrique_> enrique83 <enrique_> hola! <enrique_> someone talk spanish? <darkxst> jaysonr, do you have any extensions installed with custom css files? <jaysonr> darkxst: I tried the system monitor extension, but it didn't work and I removed it. <jaysonr> darkxst: is there an easy way to reset GNOME back to complete defaults and start over? I'm happy to try if there is. <darkxst> jaysonr, so it his happening with no extensions installed? <jaysonr> darkxst: yes. <darkxst> jaysonr, would be good if you can get a backtrace of the crash <jaysonr> darkxst: how do I do that? <darkxst> jaysonr, you can use apport/ubuntu-bug <darkxst> make sure apport is enabled, and then when you get the popup to submit bug report, click examine locallu <darkxst> locally <jaysonr> apport never pops <darkxst> jaysonr, its disabled by default on releases <darkxst> or check /var/crash/ for a file with gnome-shell in the name <darkxst> you can run ubuntu-bug straight on that file if its there <jaysonr> yup, sure is <jaysonr> do i do it on the .crash or the .upload? <darkxst> .crash <jaysonr> darkxst: nm, that looks like it's from yesterday <darkxst> jaysonr, delete the file and a new one will be created with the next crash <jaysonr> darkxst: ok, lemme see. <jaysonr> darkxst: should i kill that bug that just got entered? <jaysonr> since that log is kinda nasty <darkxst> jaysonr, no thats fine <jaysonr> ok <darkxst> just add a backtrace to it once you get one <darkxst> i will be back in a bit <jaysonr> darkxst: i attached the .crash to the bug <jaysonr> darkxst: i need to go to bed now, but I left apport open in case I need to do anything with it. <jaysonr> i posted to the list earlier too if you want to reply to me there. <jaysonr> darkxst: thanks again for your help <darkxst> jaysonr, you need to process the crash report with apport first! <darkxst> jaysonr, run 'ubuntu-bug crashfile' <darkxst> click 'examine locally' and then the last option 'add symbolic trace to .crash <darkxst> ricotz, feel like stripping the dbg packages from mozjs17 and pushing for a rebuild so it gets ddebs? <darkxst> I couldnt get apport-retrace to work with old school -dbg packages ;( <jaysonr> darkxst: sorry, when I run ubuntu-bug _usr_bin_gnome-shell.1000.crash I only have "Show Details", "Continue" and a checkbox to send error report. <jaysonr> darkxst: nothing about examine locally <jaysonr> if I click "Continue" it just goes away. <darkxst> jaysonr, I manage to run a trace of your .crash file, but it was useless, since the mozjs17 symbols don't work with apport ;( <jaysonr> darkxst: ok :( <jaysonr> darkxst: shell just crashed randomly on me now :( <jaysonr> gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in clutter_actor_get_accessible() <darkxst> think that one is already filed somewhere <jaysonr> darkxst: it's like if I look at it wrong it crashes. I think I'm just gonna downgrade this box to 3.6 <jaysonr> darkxst: will I run into trouble running PPA purge? <darkxst> jaysonr, 3.8 has been really stable here, much more than 3.6 <darkxst> ppa_purge should work ok, might get a little confused with the mozjs downgrade though <darkxst> purging staging requires a few extra commands though <jaysonr> darkxst: it seems I have parts of 3.6 and parts of 3.8, is that normal? <jaysonr> gnomer-terminal is 3.6 for example <darkxst> jaysonr, yes, the rest is in staging, and not 100% ready for general use <jaysonr> darkxst: ok. well, when I first saw your messages in my awaylog I deleted that .crash file from the bug b/c i felt like an idot :-/ <jaysonr> darkxst: now it's been overwritten by that second crash <darkxst> jaysonr, don't mix crashes! each crash should get its own bug report! <jaysonr> i've got to head to work but I'll fiddle with this some more. it's only a day old install, I may just re-install and see if I did/installed something that caused the instability <jaysonr> darkxst: i know, just wondering if you still have the .crash you processed <jaysonr> darkxst: but you said it wasn't much use anyway <darkxst> yes, but I can't do anything with it! <jaysonr> darkxst: okay. thanks again for being helpful. i'll fiddle more after work. everything runs great execpt for the shell crashes. i can't help but wonder if I caused it somehow. it runs fine on my notebook. <darkxst> jaysonr, test with a new user account? <jaysonr> darkxst: yeah, i'll try that after work <Forage> Ever since I upgraded from Ubuntu GNOME 12.10 to 13.04 the GOA accounts don't function any more. Going to the options of an account only display the Cancel and Done buttons, with no input field or text displayed below. This is the case for existing as well as new accounts. <Forage> It also appears that no accounts connect any more since the Empathy contact list remains empty <Forage> Could this have something to do with having installed the gnome3 staging ppa packages? <Forage> with NOT having installed those packages I mean <Forage> can any one confirm this behaviour with having 13.04 with gnome 3 ppa packages installed, excluding the staging ppa <Forage> is it safe to assume that only the "*+logind~raring?" packages from the GNOME3 Staging ppa are the ones that require/use logind? <Forage> I found that only updating the packages from the "stable" gnome3 ppa result in a non-functioning GOA. It wasn't until I updated Empathy and libfolks (and their dependencies) that existing GOA accounts worked again. It does, however, leave you with a crashing system settings GOA section so you can't alter/add accounts. I assume this is because it would require an update for gnome-control-center as well <Forage> Shouldn't this have been dealt with by increasing the required version of dependencies? <camelinahat> Forage, I can't say much regarding the packages as I'm not a dev and not familiar with them all myself. However I'm running only the Gnome3 PPA (not staging/testing etc), and my GOA is working fine. I've been running since the Beta2 release as a clean install <Forage> camelinahat: strange. Are you able to modify account settings of e.g. IRC accounts and are you seeing Facebook contacts in Empathy? <camelinahat> I don't have an IRC for GOA only UOA. With Facebook, if I used GOA no it didn't show in Empathy, however if I use UOA and add Facebook it does show the contacts in Empathy. <Forage> camelinahat: than how can you say GOA is working fine for you if you aren't even using it? <Forage> could you perform a test by tying to add a GOA account, like IRC or Jabber (as long as it's not available as UOA account as well)? The only thing I need to know is if you are able to provide any account details in the first place. You don't actually have to save the new account <Forage> OK, fixed the GOA system settings crash by installing account-plugin-empathy <Forage> ...partially <camelinahat> Forage, 1) I have no option to add IRC to GOA. Period. 2) I Added facebook it went in fine but it did not add the Facebook chat contacts to my empathy. Trying it on UOA did work <AbsintheSyringe> what am I doing wrong? I can't see "Privacy" with GNOME 3.8 (gnome3-team ppa) on Ubuntu 13.04? <darkxst> AbsintheSyringe, that is only in gnome-control-center 3.8, which is still in staging <AbsintheSyringe> darkxst, so only way to get privacy is to get staging? <darkxst> AbsintheSyringe, yes, same with notifications panel also <AbsintheSyringe> darkxst, will these move over to "regular" ppa? <AbsintheSyringe> eventually <darkxst> yes eventually, when they are ready for general use, currently some regressions that still need fixing <AbsintheSyringe> I can't wait so I'll just get my hands on staging :) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-08 <greywolf> Folks, is 13.04 gnome-remix out? I see from ubuntu.com's wiki page that it says "upcoming" but ubuntugnome.org says it's already out. I am confused and wondering if the ubuntugnome.org site is talking about an RC or final release... <greywolf> I have been looking at the ubuntu wiki page since a few days and waiting for the release... <greywolf> (ubuntu.com wiki page link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME and ubuntugnome.org announcement link: http://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-13-04/) <mgedmin> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/ exists <mgedmin> I guess the wiki is outdated <greywolf> thanks mgedmin, I'm downloading it now <Marcantonio98> Hi <AbsintheSyringe> on one of my machines I was to lazy to install Ubuntu GNOME so I just replaced everything <AbsintheSyringe> everything works fine, *however* my privacy is still standard Unity privacy, how can I replace it with GNOME Privacy? <AbsintheSyringe> so my question is "how to replace unity privacy with gnome privacy" <AbsintheSyringe> actually nvm :) <phako> is gnome-shell from staging also crashing for someone with today's kernel update? <nedwin> quick question <nedwin> to upgrade gnome remix 12.10 to ubuntu gnome 13.04 can i just do "do-release-upgrade" <nedwin> or will that screw things up because gnome remix wasn't an official ubuntu distro #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-09 <timonti> Hey guys, I'm using ubuntuGnome... however, am facing an issue with usb_modeswitch <timonti> My internet dongle is not getting converted to a internet device. <timonti> And, funnily, the behavior is very inconsistent. <timonti> I've searched a lot on the internet.. but can't find anything concrete. <timonti> Referred to this site: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/#usage <timonti> Any idea? <timonti> Generally when I boot, the internet gets detected and converted <timonti> But, not while hotplugging. <timonti> This is the only consistency I see, but is not generally the case. <timonti> Any ideas? <timonti> Anyone there? <darkxst> timonti, are you using gnome3-staging? <SergioAD> Hello all <SergioAD> I need urgent help <SergioAD> I have installed Ubuntu gnome and upgraded it to the 3.8 release, now my mouse scrolling do not work and have been appeared a lot of items that must be hidden like the notification settings or region and language that must be only visible from the g <SergioAD> gnome control center <SergioAD> somebody can help me? <SergioAD> so... somebody knows how can I fix my touch pad issues? If is not possible to change to Manjaro :) <SonikkuAmerica> Will there eventually be text in the ubiquity installer for UGNOME? <timonti> Anyone here with knowledge on usb_modeswitch? <homerj> updated to ubuntu gnome from the base ubuntu 13.04 with the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package, there are a couple of applications(onboard, xdiagnose) that don't have any icons in the application menu <homerj> icons seem to be there, unless /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable isn't a default anymore <homerj> question from earlier <homerj> ati bug #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-10 <FrozenFire> Is there a way to have my screenshots automatically uploaded to imgur, and a link placed into my clipboard (or made easily accessible on-screen)? <FrozenFire> I don't mind scripting a bit to make it happen, but I don't even know where to start. <FrozenFire> gnome-screenshot seems maybe to be the utility that handles it? <darkxst> FrozenFire, I think in theory pastebinit might be able to do that <darkxst> I don't know if it has imgur support though <FrozenFire> Well, the thing would be to have some sort of post-screenshot script hook <FrozenFire> I could handle the rest <darkxst> FrozenFire, does the shell does screenshots now btw <darkxst> s/ does the shell/The shell/ <FrozenFire> Perhaps an important clarification is that I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome-Shell 3.4.1 <FrozenFire> Not sure if gnome-screenshot had been dropped for that release. <darkxst> ah right, yeh still gnome-screenshot then <darkxst> FrozenFire, http://sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/ <FrozenFire> Hrmm, each example I've seen has used a different utility than gnome-screenshot <darkxst> probably because gnome-screenshot has no hooks <darkxst> although you could launch gnome-screenshot from a script in non-interactive mode <darkxst> and change the screenshot key binding <FrozenFire> True <jaysonr> darkxst: i forgot to follow back up with you, but everything is working fine now. <jaysonr> darkxst: i had the same issue w/ another user; wound up just re-installing since it was a pretty fresh install, and everything has worked fine since. * jaysonr shrugs <darkxst> jaysonr, ok cool <jaysonr> darkxst: thanks again for your time helping. <darkxst> np <dupondje> who can I bug for some issue ? :) <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1175582 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1177833 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1176757 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1174208 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1173472 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1163961 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1175582 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy not displaying any online contacts" [Undecided,New] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1177833 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empaty does not connect to any account. and it does not show the yahoo contacts avatar." [Undecided,New] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1176757 in empathy (Ubuntu) "doesn't connecting to any account except facebook" [Undecided,New] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1174208 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy shows no contacts in Ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1173472 in empathy (Ubuntu) "the facebook accounts in empathy shown disconnected" [Undecided,Confirmed] <dupondje> Empathy seems quite broken :( * darkxst is going to hide now ;) <SonikkuAmerica> clear <FrozenFire> Blegh. Grumble grumble. Can't get a script working as a keyboard shortcut, which works flawlessly from the terminal <jjmarin_> FrozenFire: what's the problem ? <FrozenFire> http://pastebin.com/VyXGzajx <FrozenFire> Basically, it's supposed to take a screenshot using gnome-screenshot, then upload that screenshot to imgur and put the link into my clipboard using xsel. <FrozenFire> imgurbash.sh does the uploading and clipboard manipulation <FrozenFire> And it works on the terminal, where it presumably has a DISPLAY reference <FrozenFire> I've tried setting the DISPLAY for the script, but no dice <FrozenFire> Wondering if the keyboard shortcut thing has a different environment than my session <jjmarin_> So you are calling the script using a Custom Keyboard Shortcut ? <jjmarin_> And you set using Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts <FrozenFire> Yeah. bash -c "/home/me/bin/screenshot.sh" <FrozenFire> It definitely calls the script <FrozenFire> The screenshot happens <FrozenFire> It just never ends up in my clipboard, and I don't know if it actually uploads to imgur <FrozenFire> Though I suspect it does <jjmarin_> are you using gnome-screenshot -f ? <FrozenFire> Sfaik, there's no -f on my version of gnome-screenshot <FrozenFire> Gnome-shell 3.4.1 <jjmarin_> I don't have a gnome-shell 3.4 avalaible to test it here :/ <FrozenFire> I should probably upgrade, but meh. :P <jjmarin_> :) <jjmarin_> I usually enjoy with the lastest versions :) <jjmarin_> even when alphas or betas go wrong <FrozenFire> As do I. I've definitely been pleased with the newer GS versions in 12.10 and 13.04 <FrozenFire> Just can't be assed to do-release-upgrade my workhorse box <darkxst_> FrozenFire, if it works from a terminal, but not keyboard launcher then presumably its missing some env variable <FrozenFire> Yeah. Just can't for the life of me figure out which <FrozenFire> I've tried putting DISPLAY=:0 at the beginning of the script <darkxst_> it wont be DISPLAY <FrozenFire> It's likely to be something with xsel <FrozenFire> But I don't know what it'd be <darkxst_> try XAUTHORITY <darkxst_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5652591/ <darkxst_> try adding that to the top of your scripts <FrozenFire> No dice <darkxst_> FrozenFire, do you get any output in ~/.cache/gdm/session.log? <FrozenFire> Might if I had such a log :) <FrozenFire> I had thought I was using gdm, but apparently not. <darkxst_> ~/.xsession-errors then <FrozenFire> Not present. Now I'm curious what desktop manager I'm actually using. :P #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-11 <swiftoid> Hi everyone. <jaysonr_> hey guys - I have a laptop that I really only use as a web-browser and an SSH client to get back to my desktop. Is the GNOME Staging repo sane enough to try out on there? <jaysonr_> wanting to do what I can to help out testing and stuff, so that is why I ask. <SonikkuAmerica> Good question. If nothing you use depends on anything in it, I'd say it's fair game. <SonikkuAmerica> Of course the staging PPA has extremely unstable stuff, fresh from the oven. (Careful, don't burn yourself.) <SonikkuAmerica> jaysonr: ^ and ^^ <jaysonr> SonikkuAmerica: thanks. maybe I'll build myself a testing VM to play with it then...and a Saucy VM while I'm at it :-) <SonikkuAmerica> Ayayayayay... why did they pick Saucy? <SonikkuAmerica> XD #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-12 <RomanGrankin> Hi! Could anyone write me system requipments for ubuntu? <Reizero> i just installed it. :) <Lsf_lf> hi, where can I find background infos (founding, members, etc) on the ubuntu-gnome team? I need info for an article in the wiki (ubuntuusers.de) â¦ #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-13 <haronas> test <Guest6872> Hello, does anyone here is receiving "failed to load session "gnome-classic" with gdm and gnome 3.8? <Guest6872> help <Hx2> Hello, does anyone here is receiving "failed to load session "gnome-classic" with gdm and gnome 3.8? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-14 <ybo_> How can I update IBus to 1.5? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-15 <AdonisK> Hey guyz, anyone else having issues signing in google in the blue online accounts (which I guess is Gnome's one) <AdonisK> I'm using the gnome3 ppa <darkxst> AdonisK, havent seen any issues <darkxst> are you using staging ppa as well? <DarkEra> hi guys, just a question. I've been using Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 for a while now with the Gnome ppa added to get 3.8. Now today with the updates that i pulled in i noticed that some were for unity. I rebooted the system after the updates were completed and out of curiosity i checked the session from the login screen. Now i'm not sure if it was there before but there's a Ubuntu session among it that starts the Unity desktop. Is this normal for Ubu <DarkEra> ntu Gnome? <DarkEra> i thought it was a pure Gnome experience without a Unity session <bersace_nss> DarkEra: that's normal. Ubuntu patched gnome-session to provide a "Ubuntu session" <bersace_nss> it's the same package <DarkEra> bersace_nss, ok, thanks for the info :) <bersace_nss> anyone know why empathy 3.8 is not uploaded ? I guess there is some mess with UOAâ¦ <Mikegwald> Hi anyone have any issues upgrade to gnome 3.8 ? <atrus> i'm sure somebody did <mikegwald> hi guys <mikegwald> anyone have any issues trying to upgrade to gnome 3.8 ? <mikegwald> anyone home ? <Logix_> Hello, is anyone available to answer a quick question of mine? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-16 <hgmhgk> sup <Forage_> When trying to upgrade Empathy from the gnome3 staging ppa, packages like account-plugin-irc will be removed. Will I still be able to use irc accounts after I update all packages from the ppa? <Forage_> ricotz: since you added Empathy to the gnome3 staging ppa, maybe you know the anwser <Forage_> When trying to upgrade Empathy from the gnome3 staging ppa, packages like account-plugin-irc will be removed. Will I still be able to use irc accounts after I update all packages from the ppa? <ricotz> Forage_, yes it will <Forage_> is it handled differently now, not requiring the account packages? <Forage_> the same goes for jabber e.g. <ricotz> Forage_, the file structure has changed and the needed bits are included in the main package now <Forage_> ok, good to know <Forage_> ty <ricotz> (this might change for the official ubuntu package again) <Forage_> btw, are you planning on updating Empathy to 8.2? <ricotz> it isnt on my list yet, kind of busy with other things currently <Forage_> any particular reason, besides lack of time, for it not being on 8.0 in the first place yet? If it's mainly a matter of updating to upstream and checking the current patches, I could take a stab at it as well <Forage_> 3.8.0 that is <Forage_> or are there bigger matters to tackle? <ricotz> Forage_, jfyi, pushing empathy 3.8.1 <Forage_> ricotz: muchas gracias :-) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-17 <darkxst> anjuta does not like saucy too much ;( <Ponch0> Hello is anyone here? <ricotz> darkxst, hi <darkxst> hi <ricotz> thanks for uploading all the updates :) <darkxst> np :) <ricotz> although the gtksourceview3 packages needs an update and can be synced from debian, but it introduces a soname bump <darkxst> ricotz, I know, thats why I left it <ricotz> so it needs a real transition <ricotz> i think i will upload a modified package of the current one to loosen up the internal dep <ricotz> and upload 3.8.1 to staging <ricotz> darkxst, dont be afraid to use urgency=medium ;) <darkxst> ricotz, a lot of the updates are so minor, there really is no urgency <ricotz> right, but the leave the ppa in a broken state for some time ;) <darkxst> really? even when they don't break dependencies? <ricotz> darkxst, i mean if the amd64 is built and the i386 not, currently anjuta creates this problem <ricotz> caused by the inner dep on the common package <ricotz> which i am about to remove in the gtksourceview3 package <ricotz> to make a smoother transition possible <darkxst> anjuta is stuffed on saucy anyway <darkxst> I thought I did anjuta as medium though, oops <darkxst> there must be some db change or something, breaking it on saucy (symbol-db-engine fails to load properly, causing a segfault) <ricotz> i see, havent run it yet <darkxst> happens with 3.7.90 as well as 3.8.2, and building under saucy didnt help either <ricotz> darkxst, so you can't even start anjuta? <darkxst> nope, you can get a bit further with 'anjuta --no-session' but then it crashes when you create a project <ricotz> darkxst, seems to run fine here <ricotz> 3.7.90 raring build on saucy that is <darkxst> strange <darkxst> I get "libanjuta-symbol-db:ERROR:symbol-db-query.c:892:sdb_query_set_property: assertion failed: (priv->dbe_project != NULL)" <darkxst> ricotz, anyway if you rebuild anjuta, add this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673187/ (fixes compile error on saucy) <ricotz> darkxst, i see <ricotz> darkxst, i havent planned to upload to the saucy package yet <ricotz> darkxst, might be better to do a whole binary copy of the raring pockets first to avoid trouble <ricotz> darkxst, did you thought about/looked into backporting some systemd bits from saucy? <darkxst> ricotz, hmm no I havent. <phako> any chance of getting evince 3.8.2 soon? <phako> 3.7.92 has a rather annoying search focus bug <ricotz> phako, will be there soon <phako> good :) <ricotz> darkxst, btw, mutter should be sync with debian and use libmutter0b <darkxst> ricotz, sure can do that, although debian has some build deps that arent updated, should they be fixed first? <darkxst> (cogl, clutter) <ricotz> darkxst, yeah, i guess it would be nice to have them fixed in debian first, but it isnt pressing -- just saying it should be done with the saucy upload and push it gnome3-raring too <darkxst> ricotz, ok, will work something out, have to go now though <ricotz> darkxst, don't worry <mau> hi I have a question. <mau> I have a question. <mau> im using USB flashdrive to install ubuntu gnome along windows 7. Im stuck at the partitioning, help. how to partition? <Basil1x> Hullo. Fresh install. Been having sound issues with normal distro, so decided to try this one. So far it seems to be working. <tyrog> Hi, what are the bugs currently present in gnome 3 staging ppa packages? the major ones. thanks <bersace_nss> mau: backup your windows, shrink it, and put Ubuntu in it <bersace_nss> mau this should be proposed automatically by the installer <mau> yeah it should be automatic but its not. <Allyoutoo> Hello, is there a know bug that skype has problems with pulseaudio on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 64bits? I encountered this problem and I solved it by installingia32-libs-multiarch package <mau> after clicking install along windows, partitioning is the next one. <tyrog> are there still problems with gnome control center 3.8? <mau> it said that adjust the divider.... <jbicha> tyrog: see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-gnome-3-8 <mau> please help me. I wanna install ubuntu gnome today. :\ <Basil1x> There should be an option to just delete linux partitions and reinstall. I've had to do that several times, and doing it manually is a bit too much of a faff. <Basil1x> OK. Sound just went. Is there a way to fix this issue, or must I continue using Windows? <tyrog> jbicha: So gnome3 staging is not recommend currently? <Basil1x> 13.04 Toshiba L755 8GB/1TB i5 Bluetooth USB dongle and nothing else. Sound works for a bit after reboot, then fails. ALSA claims there's nothing wrong. Is there a fix/is this a known issue? <Basil1x> Sound under W7 is fine, so I don't think the sound card itself montgomeryrobert@example.net. <Allyoutoo> Basil1x: so what programs have problem with sound? or all? 32bits or 64bits? <Basil1x> All. It's the 64bit distro. <mau> hi im back! i cant install ubuntu gnome. stuck after install along windows. It needs allocated...divider something and hangs up. <Allyoutoo> mau: does the installer get stuck? <Basil1x> ALSA insists there is sound, but after a bit there is none. <Allyoutoo> Basil1x: so its a problem with pulseaudio i think <Basil1x> Lovely. Is there a way to check/fix pulseaudio? <mau> Allyoutoo: it hangs when it needs allocated.....divider.... <Allyoutoo> Basil1x: try entering first "pulseaudio -k" and then "pulseaudio --start" it should restart your pulseaudio <mau> Allyoutoo: im using USB flash drive and linux live USB creator. <Allyoutoo> mau: you should check that the iso you downloaded is complete and doesn't contain errors, there might also be a menu item to check the installation image on the boot time (can't remember well). <mau> Allyoutoo: how to check? linux live USB creator said its integrity was checked and recognized as ubuntu 13.04 <Allyoutoo> mau: not sure how to check md5 on windows, you can probably find something with google to do that, also reflashing the iso to usb can help <Allyoutoo> I've even had problems where i had to change the whole usb stick for iso to install properly on it <Basil1x> No joy. The commands seemed to work, but still no sound <Allyoutoo> Basil1x: if you open the sound control from pulseaudio what do you see? (listed audio devices etc?) <mau> Allyoutoo: whats reflashing? I downloaded the iso here. <Allyoutoo> mau: to run the linux usb maker again to put the iso on the usb <Basil1x> The control panel reports only: Speakers - Built-In Audio <mau> Allyoutoo: yes I did that already. <Allyoutoo> Basil1x: and you got only speakers (no headsets, audiocard etc?) <Basil1x> speakers and a microphone... both built in. <Basil1x> The mic still works, btw <Allyoutoo> hum <Basil1x> At least, the meter moves when I montgomeryrobert@example.net. :) <Allyoutoo> just to make sure, you have put the sound volume up? and made sure its not on "mute" <Basil1x> I have. <Allyoutoo> hum well, i'm afraid i have no idea what is wrong :S <Allyoutoo> what program you have the problem in? <Basil1x> Just fyi: Kubuntu once reported that the sound device had 'disappeared' <Basil1x> All programmes are affected. Videos, FireFawkes, the main system's alert sounds... all are gone. <Allyoutoo> hum and they work right after boot? <Basil1x> This is a completely fresh install. all I've done is run the updater. Yes, they do. <Allyoutoo> can you pastebin the output of dmesg? <Basil1x> Lemme see... sec <Basil1x> http://pastebin.com/EKVV6tW1 <--- output of DMESG <Basil1x> Backup laptop was once Primary laptop, but the sound failure forced me to buy a new Primary laptop. Poor thing has sat, gathering dust, ever since. :( <Basil1x> I'd like to use it for more than the occasional email check when my main laptop is busy. <Basil1x> Could it be the fault of the firmware update? perhaps something happened Windows can deal with that *nix can't? Perhaps this is on purpose. <Basil1x> Hullo? <Basil1x> Why does this happen regardless which distro I use? The sound fails, and when we get to exactly this point in the debugging, my helper disappears. <Basil1x> NVM... Trying another distro. <dev__> I'm writing a bash script to launch a gnome-terminal and run 3 scripts on login but any -e param causes a "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" error in gnome-terminal <dev__> Thoughts? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-18 <jbicha> darkxst: what's git_revert_isRunnableHelper.patch in gnome-session for? <erle-> are you doing the ppas for 3.8? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-19 <Raphael> how to install ubuntu gnome under a raid0 config? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-20 <erle-> are you guys doing the 3.8 ppas? <Linkeichi> Excuse me, some can help me install adobe flash player on UG13.04 <darkxst> Linkeichi, just install it from software center <Linkeichi> really ?? -_- ok let me see #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-21 <linkeichi> "darkxst hey man i think that was a joke jeje, but its real, i passed out weeks without the adobe plugin and now i install it with only one click jeje, Thanks man i love G3 <ramcq> hey folks <ramcq> is gnome3-staging known broken in any critical/upsetting ways atm, or is it worth a try? :) <ramcq> and, is there any newer libp11-kit planned? empathy throws a bunch of certificate dialogs at me because p11-kit 0.18 is needed to access system certificate repos <Linkeichi> Someone from Mexico Here? <darkxst> ramcq, staging should be fairly stable now, however there are still some regressions that need fixing <darkxst> ramcq, please file a bug for libp11-kit issue #ubuntu-gnome 2013-05-22 <n0yd> bah, freenods webchat lagged out on me <n0yd> sorry about that (if anyone had answered me, I didnt see it) <darkxst> n0yd, never saw a question! <n0yd> damn, i guess freenode really has been having issues with the webchat recently then <n0yd> Well, basically I asked if anyone is sucessfully using cairo-dock in gnome. I've ran it before in gnomeshell without issues. Now on a fresh install I cant launch cairo-dock in gl mode or no gl mode <n0yd> It just crashes over and over until it launches the maintenance mode sttings menu <n0yd> I just spent about 3hrs configuring the "ultimate desktop" for my purposes, and that was basically the last piece <n0yd> I did some troubleshooting on my own, found some similar issues people had online, but all their fixes didnt work for me (granted their issues were all about a year old) <darkxst> n0yd, I am using it, no problems here <darkxst> n0yd, perhaps try removing any old config for cairo-dock? <n0yd> darkxst: already tried, sadly <n0yd> like the first thing i thought of <n0yd> darkxst: standard repo version? <n0yd> ie., non ppa <darkxst> n0yd yes from standard repo <n0yd> k just checking <n0yd> i truied the standard and the weekly svn build from ppa <darkxst> logs? <n0yd> Ya I have debug logs and such, but the errors are dont give me a real clue to whats happening, like when I google them, other people have the same errors and the same thing happening, but whats causing the issue is different <n0yd> I can pastebin them if you want <darkxst> yeh <n0yd> one sec, lemme reinstall <n0yd> darkxst: ok, first, this is the standard terminal output with a little error message. You can see the program tries to restart like 5 or so times, giving the same error each time: http://pastebin.com/TUXSdXGW <n0yd> I will do a verbose log now <darkxst> looks like a mesa/GL issue that one, <n0yd> ya i donno, im thinking trying xorg edgers, just because I need it anyway to run CSS on steam properly <darkxst> what gpu and drivers? <n0yd> because the 13.04 default mesa version doesnty have the proper opengl version support for intel cards and certain steam drivers <n0yd> Intel GMA 3500 <n0yd> ive never had a problem on this hardware running cairo <n0yd> A matter of fact, I think it worked fine on 13.04 pre-release back in march/april <n0yd> If it wasnt 13.04 when I used cairod-dock last, definitely 12.10 <n0yd> Lemme paste the verbose log <n0yd> much more messages <darkxst> ok <n0yd> http://pastebin.com/cRgv6q33 <n0yd> this is the error I keep seeing, couldn't find an appropriate visual, trying to get one without Stencil buffer <n0yd> and googling it comes up with lots of stuff, but that all seems to be issues like a year old or more, and none of the solutions either apply or work, at least on the hits I looked at <darkxst> n0yd, I dont think that is the problem <darkxst> it retries and succeeds second time <darkxst> "Strike, found a GLX visual with alpha-support !" <n0yd> thats a good sign <n0yd> lol <n0yd> alpha-support would be a good thing <darkxst> there is nothing really in there that
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