#ubuntu-x 2006-08-02 <crimsun> I think the new xserver-xorg-core needs to Replaces/Conflicts each individual xserver-xorg-driver- <rodarvus> crimsun, coincidently I'm working on that *right now* <rodarvus> actually, not Replaces/Conflicts, but Breaks: <rodarvus> crimsun, xorg already does the job of Replaces/Conflicts for all xserver-xorg-driver-* packages. <crimsun> ah, ok. <crimsun> right, Breaks is more appropriate per Ian's e-mail. <crimsun> thanks much :) <rodarvus> np #ubuntu-x 2006-08-08 <crimsun> I think xfonts-utils needs to Replace bdftopcf <ajmitch> file conflict? <crimsun> yeah #ubuntu-x 2006-08-10 <ajmitch> rodarvus: here is more on-topic I guess <rodarvus> yup, much better <rodarvus> so, go ahead :) <ajmitch> what are you wanting helpers for at the moment? mainly bug triage? <ajmitch> or handling some of the packages? <rodarvus> sure I want :) <rodarvus> X.Org maintaintership is a huge task <ajmitch> and people hate you if you break things :) <rodarvus> and we don't have anyone who is solely responsible for it inside Canonical (or inside the Ubuntu community) <rodarvus> we have people that helps, from time to time <rodarvus> and people that donate bursts of developer time (which is my case, currently) <ajmitch> right <rodarvus> I won't be able to keep spending so much time on X, in the future <rodarvus> so, resuming - yes, we are always looking for people interested in helping :) <ajmitch> I got asked today to come back to my old job in a slightly different capacity, maybe part-time <ajmitch> so I'll have a couple of days free a week I think <rodarvus> bug triaging is a good start, testing, and trying to fix problems on drivers is also very valuable <rodarvus> you are already on ubuntu-core-dev, which is extremely helpful <ajmitch> yep <rodarvus> (meaning you'll be able to upload most/all X packages, when you feel confident to do so) <ajmitch> I just need to dive into the bugs <ajmitch> of which there are a few <rodarvus> I'm surely available to help, when/if you have questions <rodarvus> as are the other developers on the team <rodarvus> nice <ajmitch> you're keeping fairly close to the debian packages now? <rodarvus> we are in great need of bug fixers :) <rodarvus> yes, quite close <rodarvus> a few weeks ago I updated most packages to new upstream releases <ajmitch> ok, I'll try & set aside some time in coming weeks :) <rodarvus> but the are catching up to us :) <rodarvus> now we don't need to release new upstream releases <rodarvus> but we need to fix bugs <rodarvus> there are two places were bug fixing is needed more: <rodarvus> - xorg-server (the server itself) <rodarvus> - video drivers: mostly ati, i810 and nv <ajmitch> I'm learning the ways of git <rodarvus> fglrx and nvidia are used a lot, of course, but are closed source, so not really relevant wrt bug fixing * ajmitch has nvidia & i810 hardware here, but most bugs will probably be specific to some models <rodarvus> ajmitch: exactly, this is one good way to start your search: gitweb.freedesktop.org (most, if not all, relevant source trees are there) <rodarvus> and of course, the freedesktop.org bugzilla <ajmitch> yeah, I was using that for the xgl & compiz stuff <rodarvus> which sometimes contains info about bugs we are finding here <rodarvus> ajmitch: if you are looking for a place to start, I'd suggest: <ajmitch> so I've already ended up with some of the X stuff <rodarvus> 1. subscribing to ubuntu-x-swat on LaunchPad, so you are notified of updates on bugs <rodarvus> 2. triaging all 'xorg' bugs <rodarvus> 'xorg' bugs are mostly untriaged bugs, on LaunchPad <ajmitch> nice, 123 bugs <rodarvus> yup :) <rodarvus> most of them, as I said, untriaged <rodarvus> surely at least a few duplicates <ajmitch> yep, a few I recognise <ajmitch> thanks, I'll probably get into this in a week or so * ajmitch has a bit to get finished before feature freeze <rodarvus> ajmitch: good luck, and have fun! <ajmitch> thanks <rodarvus> don't hesitate asking on this channel when you have questions :) <rodarvus> (or looking for me in a /msg window) <ajmitch> sure :) <rodarvus> anyhow, I need to get some sleep :) <rodarvus> have a good night (or day) <rodarvus> :) <crimsun> rodarvus: if you don't mind I'd like to fix xfonts-utils, since currently its binary provides a bdftopcf executable that is currently installable from the bdftopcf package. So we'll need to get ubuntu-archive to remove the bdftopcf source package. <rodarvus> crimsun: agreed, go ahead <crimsun> thanks * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ajmitch> rodarvus: so do we want to merge i810 driver from debian? I'm testing on the laptop here <ajmitch> 1.6.4 is out & adds a large chunk of code <rodarvus> ajmitch, debian has 1.6.3 (or had, at least until 12 hours ago) <ajmitch> no longer <ajmitch> I grabbed 1.6.4 from incoming <rodarvus> ajmitch, yes, it is my plan to update driver version <ajmitch> saw the upstream release, debian had packages only a few hours later <rodarvus> the 'mergedfb' branch was merged into the -intel tree on 1.6.2 <ajmitch> i965 support is the major feature of 1.6.4 <rodarvus> this is a rather large change, that makes the driver recognize more boards, and work better on other boards too <ajmitch> UVF exceptions need to be granted for each package? <rodarvus> yes <rodarvus> they were granted for me for the whole of X.Org 7.1 <ajmitch> ok <rodarvus> but as 7.1 was completed last week <rodarvus> they need to be granted again <rodarvus> ajmitch, I'll upload the new version (doing it now) <rodarvus> UVF exception was given <ajmitch> ok * ajmitch wasn't trying to chase you to do it, was looking to see what conflicts/replaces, etc could be kept from debian <rodarvus> actually, I was asked by mdz to do it <ajmitch> makes sense :) <rodarvus> (he lives in the US, and as soon as he saw the announcement from Intel, he asked me to update our i810 driver) <rodarvus> ajmitch, http://intelinuxgraphics.org/ <ajmitch> yes, I saw that also * ajmitch saw the announcement on the xorg mailing list * rodarvus haven't had time to read his emails yet <rodarvus> early early morning here :) * ajmitch is looking forward to maybe having nouveau drivers in edgy+2 :) <rodarvus> +2 :) <rodarvus> thats 1.3 years from now! <ajmitch> I don't know how far they'll be in 8 months or so <ajmitch> basically dumping registers & FIFO data on nvidia cards to write a free driver <rodarvus> xserver-xorg-video-i810_1.6.4-0ubuntu1 uploaded <ajmitch> yay <rodarvus> xorg-server_1.1.1-0ubuntu5 uploaded <rodarvus> let the b0rkage begin <ajmitch> it's edgy after all <rodarvus> I like this name <crimsun> this is messy <crimsun> even x11-common is using the new xfonts-utils (due to calling update-fonts-dir with --x11r7-layout) <crimsun> we probably need to remove the xfonts-core source package from the archive <crimsun> (for starters) <crimsun> hmm. <crimsun> we probably need Pre-Depends: xfonts-utils (>= 1.0.0-6ubuntu3) in each of xfonts-{100dpi,75dpi,base,scalable} <crimsun> rodarvus: hi, you weren't present unfortunately, but I was musing over bug 54809 <crimsun> do you think it's wise to have xfonts-{100dpi,75dpi,base,scalable} Depend on xfonts-utils (>= 1.0.0-6ubuntu3)? <crimsun> [originally I thought a Pre-Depends: xfonts-utils (>= 1.0.0-6ubuntu3) is necessary] <crimsun> sorry, need to drive to a meeting now, will check backscroll. <rodarvus> crimsun: no, pre-depends must be used quite sparingly <rodarvus> we can use the new Breaks: field <rodarvus> hmm, <rodarvus> no <rodarvus> . o O ( that was stupid of me ) #ubuntu-x 2006-08-11 <crimsun> right, I'm not a fan of Pre-Depends either <crimsun> I think just using a versioned Depends is sufficient #ubuntu-x 2006-08-15 <rodarvus> just in case there is anyone listening to this channel :) <rodarvus> "Ave, <rodarvus> just introducing simple sugar in the form of a new acceleration architecture. <rodarvus> In the spirit of being short and sweet, that fits very well with the concepts <rodarvus> of Glucose: <rodarvus> - it's an OpenGL based acceleration architecture, <rodarvus> - all driver code is limited to just initialising it (a call to <rodarvus> glucoseDriverInit), which really could be eliminated as well, by cleverly <rodarvus> hooking it up in the server... we might want to do that soon. <rodarvus> - it uses XGL code, so it accelerates everything using exactly the same paths <rodarvus> as XGL does. So there's no duplicate code/work here." <crimsun> sounds interesting <ajmitch> nice, a middle ground between AIGLX & Xgl magic #ubuntu-x 2006-08-16 <shining> hi <shining> rodarvus: hi <rodarvus> hi shining <shining> you just missed my question on debian-x :) but it's more on topic here : <shining> http://pastebin.ca/134377 <rodarvus> shining, thanks, I'm working on this fix as we speak :) <rodarvus> (been doing since yesterday afternoon, actually) <shining> ha, so there is really something to be fixed, I thought I messed up something during the huge update :) <shining> ha ok <rodarvus> actually mesa already has the right dri directory builtin <shining> though, I think I first saw this problem quite a while ago <shining> ha <rodarvus> but it seems that for some users upgrading from dapper, this is not working <rodarvus> I'm chasing the root of this problem <shining> ha, well that was my case, but I'll maybe reinstall anyway <shining> ho right <shining> just booted on edgy desktop cd, and it looks in the correct place <shining> but r300 is not there :d <shining> btw, it's not possible to get the stupid eye candy effect with edgy? <shining> aiglx+compiz worked fine on dapper, after adding an unofficial repo. but the edgy branch of this repo seems broken <rodarvus> no need to add extra repositories for aiglx on edgy (it is part of official xorg-server) <rodarvus> compiz is a different subject, obviously <shining> what about xserver-xorg-air or something? <shining> it seems to be available, but Xorg-air didn't start <ajmitch> compiz will be updated soon, I promise :) <ajmitch> shining: just use the regular x server * rodarvus has no idea of what xserver-xorg-air is - "accelerated indirect rendering"? <ajmitch> yes, obsolete, should be removed from edgy <rodarvus> but anyhow, as ajmitch says, no need to run a different xorg-server <rodarvus> you'll just need compiz, quite probably <rodarvus> (and it is/should be on universe) <ajmitch> should be, the one in universe is broken, I've got packages locally that are missing a patch or two <ajmitch> ah, bug 55997 <shining> ha ok <shining> well anyway, I don't really care, as long as 3d accel is working :) I just wanted to play a bit more with it till I'm bored <rodarvus> ajmitch, to remove this package from edgy you'll have to subscribe ubuntu-archive to this bug <rodarvus> (and probably make it have a more formal wording) <ajmitch> yes, I didn't file it, I just remembered seeing it :) <rodarvus> "please remove xorg-air from edgy, as upstream xorg-server implements aiglx natively" or something like this <ajmitch> at least malone has a nice clear link to editing the description now <shining> ho <shining> actually, it's looking in /usr/lib/dri/ when libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri are not installed <shining> so it doesnt find anything, because the dri package containing the driver is not there <shining> but after installing these packages, now that the drivers are in /usr/lib/dri/, it looks in /usr/X11R6/ again :d <shining> it's funny #ubuntu-x 2006-08-18 <shining> hi <shining> any success fixing the "path bug" ? :) <rodarvus> a new mesa package was uploaded to the archive earlier today <rodarvus> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/mesa/6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu1 <crimsun> (and is available in the archive now) <shining> is it supposed to fix it? <shining> it seems it's the same as before <shining> after unsetting LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH, it tryes again to open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/i915_dri.so #ubuntu-x 2006-08-21 <Seveas> hi seb ;) <rodarvus> hi Seveas! <seb128> Hi <rodarvus> I sitting closes to seb128 :) <Seveas> So you want incom-ing-x-bugs spammed in here? <rodarvus> (and watched your conversation) <rodarvus> yes, that would be a nice feature to have <rodarvus> do you think it is possible? <Seveas> of course <rodarvus> thanks, really appreciated! <Seveas> incoming x bugs are sent to all x-swat teammembers, right? <rodarvus> Seveas, right <rodarvus> do you wan't some account to be subscribed to x-swat? <Seveas> yes -- an account that still needs to be created ;) <Seveas> working on that <Seveas> rodarvus, Ubugtu X bugbot has to be accepted to the team, then I can set it up #ubuntu-x 2006-08-22 <rodarvus> fabbione, I added a patch for pci domains support to xorg-server on dapper-updates <rodarvus> (this patch was requested by ben, for a customer, I think) <fabbione> ok <fabbione> feh <rodarvus> unfortunately this patch breaks X for a few configurations, so I'm reverting it, for the moment <rodarvus> (actually, I'm test building it locally, before the upload) <fabbione> rodarvus: make sense yes <Seveas> fabbione, could you accept Ubugtu as a member of the X swat on launchpad please <fabbione> Seveas: why does it need to be memeber of the group? <rodarvus> fabbione, I asked Seveas for Ubugtu to announce new X.Org bugs here <fabbione> ah ok <fabbione> sure <rodarvus> (makes it easy to catch important bugs quickly) <fabbione> done <rodarvus> thanks! <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter <Ubugtu> <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-x <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True <Seveas> @config list plugins.bugtracker <Ubugtu> New bug: #57153 in xorg-server "xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 breaks X: "no screens found"" [High,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57153 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57216 in xorg-server "New update kills ATI detection" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57216 <Seveas> rodarvus, it's working <rodarvus> Seveas, thanks a lot! <Ubugtu> New bug: #57221 in xorg-server "gdm never starts after upgrade of xserver-xorg-core" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57221 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57222 in xorg-server "xorg-core update 10.3 breaks X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57222 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57227 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 missing some device drivers? X doesn't start: stops to fatal error" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57227 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57229 in xorg "Kubuntu drops me unpredictably to tty1, tty2 etc" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57229 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57232 in xorg-server "1.0.3 breaks X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57232 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57236 in xorg-server "My X will not start again after last update" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57236 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57238 in xorg-server "X doesnt start: No devices detected." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57238 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57239 in xorg-server "video card no detected anymore" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57239 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57263 in xorg-server "Failed to detect GPU after upgrade" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57263 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57276 in xorg-server "X fails to find savage card after upgrade to xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57276 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57278 in xorg-server "Kubuntu dapper: xserver-xorg-core 10.3 doesn't work with nvidia_glx" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57278 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57282 in xorg-server "After upgrading dapper 22:nd of august, X doesn't start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57282 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57283 in xorg "latest xserver fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57283 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57287 in xorg-server "X fails to find ATI Radeon chip after upgrade to xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57287 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57288 in xorg-server "latest update of xserver-xorg-core fails PCI scan" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57288 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57290 in xorg-server "Xserver fails after restart" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57290 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57292 in xorg-server "Recent versions in dapper-updates break mga200 detection" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57292 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57295 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update on August 22, 2006 blows up" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57295 <Mithrandir> rodarvus: how do you feel about building kdrive from xorg-server? <Ubugtu> New bug: #57297 in xorg-server "Update to version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3: xserver not longer starts" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57297 <Mithrandir> we're aiming for most-duplicated bug report? <Mithrandir> rodarvus: also, what's happening with xapps? I thought we were just going to sync them? <Ubugtu> New bug: #57304 in xorg-server "updating to the newest package 1.0.2 ubuntu10.3 makes the xserver unable to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57304 <rodarvus> Mithrandir, yes, I think kdrive could be built by xorg-server indeed. I haven't checked the source code inside xorg-server to be sincere, but it surely deserves an investigation <rodarvus> basically the reason I haven't done that before is because there was a reasonable chance the version of kdrive inside xorg-server was crap (and I didn't have had much time to deal with it yet) <rodarvus> Mithrandir, we have the current version of all xapps <rodarvus> I intended to sync them initially, but found out debian was seriously outdated on this regard <Mithrandir> rodarvus: I just did a build of xorg-server with --enable-kdrive and the server seems to work fine for rodriguezcrystal@example.org. <rodarvus> what is the difference of --enable-kdrive and --enable-xephyr <rodarvus> (I built it locally too, but didn't tested yet) <Mithrandir> xephyr is one of the kdrive servers <rodarvus> isn't it the server we want/need? <Mithrandir> Xsdl is another <Mithrandir> (Xvesa another, Xfake a third, etc) <Mithrandir> yes, if we want to enable any kdrive servers, Xephyr is the one we want. <Mithrandir> I don't think we'd want any others. <rodarvus> agree <Mithrandir> it'd fix 57077 too <Mithrandir> I can't find the version of kdrive in the server though.. might need to talk to rburton about that. <rodarvus> right <Mithrandir> (whether xorg-server is newer than xserver-kdrive or not) <rodarvus> it is inside hw/kdrive I think <rodarvus> but it breaks <rodarvus> (build breaks, I mean) <Mithrandir> worked for me <Mithrandir> do you have a build failure now? <rodarvus> I built entering obj-*/hw/kdrive + make (after debuild with --enable-xephyr) <rodarvus> I expected it to build automatically during the .deb build, but it didn't happened <Mithrandir> did for me <Mithrandir> oh, do --enable-kdrive <Mithrandir> it'll give you a xephyr server <rodarvus> oh, nice <Mithrandir> without, it won't build any of the kdrive stuff, AIUI <tom_> hi chaps, after that xserver-xorg-core update broke my x, I have tried everything suggested on the forum and in #ubuntu but cant get my xserver running <tom_> probably due to my having messed up the xserver installation before realising that this was a general ubuntu problem <tom_> currently my xserver error log says: (EE) no devices detected <tom_> Fatal server error <tom_> no screens found <tom_> what should I do? <ubugbla> New bug: #57308 in xorg "Xorg and ATI X600 - RV370/380 (5B62) doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57308 <rodarvus> tom_, it looks like you are still running the broken version of xserver-xorg-core. <tom_> rodarvus: I tried upgrading to 10.4 and downgrade to 10.0 <rodarvus> tom_, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core:156.14.161.142-0ubuntu10.2 <rodarvus> upgrading to 10.4 should fix you problem, indeed <tom_> I'll run that again just check <rodarvus> it was published to the archive, and most (all?) mirrors should already have it by now <tom_> but I think I may have caused another problem by removing xserver-xorg before following the instructions <tom_> I tried to reinstall but I think I may have lost some packages <Mithrandir> that shouldn't cause any problems, I'd think. <tom_> rodarvus: is "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core:156.14.161.142-0ubuntu10.2" a typo? <tom_> I thought it was 10.4 <tom_> and that doesnt seem to work <rodarvus> it is 10.4. the only reason I asked you to install 10.2 is because I don't know which mirror you are using - your mirror could be outdated and that would let you start X as usual <tom_> but doing apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 works <tom_> and says is already the newest version installed <tom_> rodarvus: I think you missed the "=" ? <tom_> when I insert that and try with 10.2 it says that version is not found <rodarvus> tom_, yes, I did, please add it back :) <tom_> rodarvus: I added it, but 10.2 aint found and 10.4 says I've already got the newest version installed <rodarvus> what 'dpkg --list xserver-xorg-core' returns for you? (please output only the relevant line) <tom_> erm, what is the relevant line? <tom_> under version is says 10.4 <rodarvus> so you already got the latest version. if X is not working, its another issue (probably unrelated to 10.3) <tom_> rodarvus: the whole line is: xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 X.Org X server -- core server <rodarvus> right <Mithrandir> tom_: you could try doing dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to reconfigure the X server again. <tom_> ok, yes, that what I thought, somewhere along the line I created another issue whilst trying to fix this one <tom_> Mithrandir: done that a few times already <tom_> any idea how to go about this other problem, whatever it is? <tom_> + fixing <tom_> what causes the no screens found error normally? <Mithrandir> can you put your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log in a pastebin somewhere? <tom_> is there a command I can to re-install everything that x needs to function properly <tom_> Mithrandir: yes, let me just copy them over to this machine... <tom_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21410 <tom_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21411 <tom_> Mithrandir: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21410 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21411 :) <Mithrandir> tom_: rodriguezcrystal@example.org. The network here isn't the quickest one around <rodarvus> tom_, even tough dpkg believes you are running 10.4, it seems you are really running 10.3 <tom_> okay ?? <rodarvus> is there any chance you --forced it somehow? <tom_> yes <tom_> I think I may have tried a -f at some point if that is what you mean? <rodarvus> download http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb <rodarvus> install it (dpkg --install ...) <rodarvus> ... <rodarvus> profit! <Mithrandir> rodarvus: any reason why the Xorg.0.log doesn't include the full Ubuntu version number? <rodarvus> Mithrandir, not really, actually <rodarvus> and indeed, it would be really helpful <tom_> rodarvus: I've tried that before, but I'll try it again... <tom_> same problem persists <tom_> rodarvus: as you (?) pointed out, it would appear that I have some other problem, shall I submit a new bug? <tom_> or have you got any more ideas of other things to try? <tom_> is there a command I can to re-install everything that x needs to function properly? <rodarvus> there is nothing else easily apparent from your Xorg.0.log file <rodarvus> please follow the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration <rodarvus> there is quite a lot of helpful information on this page <rodarvus> and eventually if the informations there doesn't fix your problems, it teaches you on how to prepare a proper bug report <Ubugtu> New bug: #57313 in xorg-server "xserver doesn't start on hp compaq nc8000 laptop" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57313 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57319 in xorg-server ""X -scanpci" fails to find graphics adapter" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57319 <tom_> thanks rodarvus <tom_> got it in the end <rodarvus> what was it? <tom_> somehow, the right driver wasnt installed for the video card anymore <tom_> the video card was a savage <tom_> and it turns out there is a package: xserver-xorg-driver-savage <tom_> which wasnt installed <Mithrandir> you probably uninstalled it while debugging, then <tom_> yeah, somehow <Ubugtu> New bug: #57325 in xorg-server "(EE) No devices detected." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57325 <Mithrandir> but if it's fixed, that's good. :-) <tom_> yeah though it has taken up most of my day <tom_> though at least now I have some idea what X is! <Mithrandir> we're _really_ sorry about that. <rodarvus> the last 12 hours were not the best hours of my life, but I'll get over it <tom_> sure, well its the first major problem I have had running ubuntu for 18 months <Mithrandir> we've managed to piss off a lot of users and the only thing I can say is "we promise to do better in the future". <tom_> sure, I guess its been pretty damn stressful for you guys <tom_> well, best of luck with making sure it doesnt happen again :) <Mithrandir> thanks. :-) <Mithrandir> and again, sorry for fucking it up in the first place. <tom_> I dont imagine the work you guys are doing is easy <tom_> Mithrandir: everyone makes mistakes from time to time ;) <Mithrandir> tom_: yeah, I guess. About time it was us, then. <Mithrandir> We'll get over it <tom_> :) <Ubugtu> New bug: #57329 in xserver-xorg-video-via "upgrade to latest xorg has stopped my CLE266 from working" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57329 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57333 in xserver-xorg-video-via "22-Aug-06 xorg update killed X on my Latitude D810" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57333 <heimweh> join #ubuntu-devel <Ubugtu> New bug: #57338 in xorg-server (main) "Graphic mode is broken" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57338 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57339 in xorg-server "Fatal server error: no screens found" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57339 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57345 in xorg-server "No devices detected. after update to xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57345 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57358 in xorg-server "Update breaks xserver (fix = apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57358 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-23 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57364 in xorg-server "Xorg doesn't detect any graphic cards" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57364 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57370 in xorg-server (main) "xserver-xorg-core" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57370 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57371 in xorg-server "killer upgrade: xserver won't start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57371 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57375 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57375 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57376 in xorg-server "X doesn't start after upgrade to 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57376 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57400 in xorg-server "No ChangeLog for fix of bug 57153" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57400 <rodarvus> how people manage to file bugs like this one? ^^^ <Mithrandir> they read the changelog and wonder what the fix was? <Mithrandir> actually, he's confused about changelog vs changelog.Debian <rodarvus> he says "There is a new version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 of xserver-xorg-core which I assume fixes bug 57153 of version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3. But there is not ChangeLog entry for those versions. The latest entry in ChangeLog is about version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10." <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57153 in xorg-server "xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 breaks X: "no screens found"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57153 <rodarvus> there is obviously a changelog <rodarvus> (you need to have one) * Mithrandir grrs at the broken locale support in Xlib at the moment <Mithrandir> rodarvus: do you get a "locale not supported by Xlib" thingy if you run xterm in an UTF8 locale? <rodarvus> Mithrandir, yes, its happening here too <rodarvus> I'll try to take a look at this bug in a while, as soon as I finish some other stuff I'm working on at the moment <Mithrandir> thx <Ubugtu> New bug: #57408 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[radeon] enabling EXA results in black screen" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57408 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57415 in xorg-server (main) "Inconsistent cut-and-paste behaviour" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57415 <Mithrandir> rodarvus: do you keep the X packages in an RCS somewhere? <rodarvus> no. I wanted to either maintain our packages in the XSF repository (but I can't right now as I'm not part of the team), or bzr <rodarvus> *but* bzr had problems importing such a large repository, last I tried <rodarvus> (I tried importing X into it once) <rodarvus> the plan was to have separate branches to each patch we apply on our X packages <rodarvus> (since branching seems to be such a cheap operation on bzr) <Mithrandir> yeah <Mithrandir> https://launchpad.net/products/xorg-server/trunk/+source ; fill in the stuff there and prod ddaa to get the import going? <Mithrandir> actually, xorg is moving to GIT so we probably will have to wait for that to happen <Ubugtu> New bug: #57452 in xserver-xorg-video-sis "sis driver won't start X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57452 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57466 in xserver-xorg-driver-nv "weird error in text input field in gtk applications" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57466 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log * Mithrandir kicks bzr and tailor in the nuts <Mithrandir> bzrlib.errors.InvalidRevisionId: Invalid revision-id {Egbert Eich <eich-at-freedesktop-dot-xorg>-20041018122145-bf29d4b91e4a312a} in 97/im%2552m.c-20060823154647-fe49568e519d2115 <Mithrandir> rodarvus: disabling loadable i18n modules works around the problem. <Ubugtu> New bug: #57498 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "Xserver crash on start up" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57498 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-24 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57525 in xresprobe "fails on ATI Mobility X700 (Acer TravelMate 8100)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57525 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57540 in xorg-server ""Fatal server error: no screens found" on recent xserver-xorg-core upgrade" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57540 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57554 in xorg-server "radeon M7500 not recognized after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57554 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57560 in xutils-dev "lndir, xon and others lost in repackagin process" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57560 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57579 in xorg-server (main) "Kubuntu LiveCD doesn't complete boot on Dell Inspiron 640m" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57579 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-25 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57692 in libx11 "last update affects xterm" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57692 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57721 in xorg "Website crashes xorg!" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57721 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-26 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57767 in xorg "display is garbled on intel 855gm" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57767 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57770 in xorg "Xorg Crashes every time on xorg dual-head configuration." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57770 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57776 in xorg "custom xorg.conf should not be overridden" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57776 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57790 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb significantly degrades performance of VMware Server 1.0.1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57790 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57802 in xorg "[edgy] external monitor not well recognized" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57802 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57814 in mesa ""radeon_cp_reset called without lock held"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57814 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57817 in xorg "Upgrade to 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 buggy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57817 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57830 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core breaks the Xserver on Intel" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57830 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57840 in xorg "X hangs system on switch back" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57840 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-27 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57844 in xorg "Hard freeze using savage DRI" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57844 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57862 in xorg "Display is unusable with default settings" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57862 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57878 in xkeyboard-config ""Serbia and Montenegro" no longer exists" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57878 <Ubugtu> New bug: #57880 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "r200_vtxfmt.c:1044: r200VtxFmtFlushVertices: Assertion failed." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57880 #ubuntu-x 2006-08-31 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <rodarvus> Mithrandir, I'd like to prepare an email today (I've started doing this, already) <rodarvus> and send to you, distro-team@ on the end of the day <rodarvus> giving the current status of X on edgy, what needs to be fixed, and some ideas for edgy+1, X work is not so ad-hoc on next release cycle <rodarvus> s/Xwr <rodarvus> s/X work/so X work/ <Mithrandir> rodarvus: we'll have to have somebody who actually fixes X bugs until release. <Mithrandir> I don't know the server or driver for shit, but I know a bit about the libs and xkb and the apps. <rodarvus> I think we can split, then <rodarvus> server and drivers are the part I know best <Mithrandir> I'd be ok with rodriguezcrystal@example.org. We need to get it ack-ed by mdz, but I can't really see that being a problem. <rodarvus> (and which I enjoy most working with, to be sincere) <rodarvus> *nods* <Mithrandir> the server and drivers scare me. :-) Apps and libs are almost cozy. #ubuntu-x 2007-08-03 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #130094 in xorg (main) "Tribes3 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not add EndSubSection after color depth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130094 <ubotu> New bug: #60544 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Synaptics touchpad stops working in new user session" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60544 <tepsipakki> ugh, that xorg bug is real <tepsipakki> bryce: there was a small merge error in dexconf, but it's fixed now :) <ubotu> New bug: #130206 in xorg (main) "default xorg.conf does not have necessary EndSubSections" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130206 <ubotu> New bug: #93257 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Re-login crashes after logout with compiz activated (dup-of: 88152)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93257 <bryce> tepsipakki: ah thanks <bryce> tepsipakki: rats, I thought I'd gotten that dexconf merge correct <bryce> tepsipakki: 130206 <ubotu> New bug: #130248 in xserver-xorg-driver-savage (main) "Savage (IBM T23): Gnome/Xorg crashes in fullscreen mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130248 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-04 <tepsipakki> bryce: so, it should be fine now? <ubotu> New bug: #114801 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Kubuntu dual-head screen windows focus problem" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114801 <ubotu> New bug: #130325 in xorg (main) "glxgears, 3d apps, crash X when using compiz-fusion (gutsy) (nvidia-glx-new 9755)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130325 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-05 <ubotu> New bug: #57310 in xorg (main) "horizontal scrolling with Apple Mighty Mouse does not just work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57310 <ubotu> New bug: #25500 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Dell Latitude C640 touchpad conflicts with PS/2 mouse" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25500 <ubotu> New bug: #50082 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Dell Inspiron 510m: Horizontal scroll does not work" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50082 <ubotu> New bug: #44537 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Synaptics touchpad: missing functionality" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44537 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-06 <ubotu> New bug: #44768 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "/dev/input/event? device node changes across reboots" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44768 <ubotu> New bug: #28216 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "USB mouse doesn't work after suspend on Inspiron 7000" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28216 <ubotu> New bug: #33404 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Side scroll wheel buttons mapped as wheel up/down" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33404 <ubotu> New bug: #130611 in xorg (main) "startx fail, Graphic was not supported for IBM T60 with 15.4 WSXGA TFT- ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, when Ubuntu version 7.04 starting from live CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130611 <ubotu> New bug: #125694 in libx11 (main) "gweather-applet-2 crashed with SIGSEGV in _XimServerDestroy()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125694 <ubotu> New bug: #130717 in xorg (main) "xserver-xorg-video-all: please add xserver-xorg-video-amd to Depends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130717 <ubotu> New bug: #130730 in xorg-server (main) "Xephyr crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130730 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-07 <ubotu> New bug: #39529 in wacom-tools (main) "xorg.conf calibration options + xinput broken" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39529 <ubotu> New bug: #130884 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa (main) "X starts (wrong) low resolution only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130884 <ubotu> New bug: #129041 in xterm (main) "xterm icon available by default" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129041 <ubotu> New bug: #130948 in xorg-server (main) "Installation/Boot Lockup - flashing keyboard leds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130948 <ubotu> New bug: #129432 in xorg (main) "warn on LiveCD/installer startup about low screen resolution" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129432 <ubotu> New bug: #130971 in xorg (main) "Random X server crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130971 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-08 <ubotu> New bug: #58884 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "Random keyboard failure in X" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58884 <bryce> hi tepsipakki <ubotu> New bug: #106539 in xkeyboard-config (main) "I am using a French machine, keyboard set to French settings. I cannot acces the "@" symbol with the "@" key" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106539 <ubotu> New bug: #64463 in xorg (main) "does NOT start X with pci-e Radeon X850XT" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64463 <ubotu> New bug: #83093 in xorg (main) "inspiron 640m livecd issues (feisty)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83093 <tepsipakki> hey bryce <ubotu> New bug: #130429 in xorg (main) "Brief glitch at the bottom of the screen after gdm starts" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130429 <ubotu> New bug: #129909 in Ubuntu "Fonts too big (Gutsy Tribe 3) (dup-of: 118745)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129909 <ubotu> New bug: #131132 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "i915 crash in getDrawableInfo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131132 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log #ubuntu-x 2007-08-09 <ubotu> New bug: #57408 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[radeon] enabling EXA results in black screen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57408 <ubotu> New bug: #56273 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "X extremely slow after resume on ATI mobility M4 with DRI (dup-of: 23513)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56273 <ubotu> New bug: #55073 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Emacs window doesn't get redrawn when switching desktops" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55073 <ubotu> New bug: #130799 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Gutsy nvidia-glx no gpu or API mismatch (dup-of: 106217)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130799 <tepsipakki> wow, we should be able to sync ati from experimental <tepsipakki> means dropping 105_fdo_att7409_bug5437.diff, which is a hacky patch just for some acer <tepsipakki> and upstream hates that patch <ubotu> New bug: #131276 in xorg-server (main) "X does not use preferred mode when connected to Samsung 225bw" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131276 <ubotu> New bug: #127677 in xorg (main) "oversized fonts in compiz in gutsy on intel 945" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127677 <bryce> tepsipakki: excellent <mvo> /home/egon/devel/compiz/compiz/src/display.c:2018: undefined reference to `XGetXCBConnection' <mvo> ^--- I assume this is only availabe with a xcb enable xlib? <mvo> ^--- byce, tepsipakki ? any idea? <bryce> that sounds likely <bryce> here's my todo notes for xcb enablement: <bryce> * libx11 with xcb reactivated <bryce> - Problem is a static lib inside java <bryce> - Current package in debian should patch java not to use <bryce> - Needs a fix for <bryce> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11390 <mvo> hrm, that is pretty bad is it makes it impossible currently to follow compiz <bryce> - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/ <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 11390 in Lib/Xlib "Locking hooks not called from software built against non-XCB Xlib without XTHREADS" [Blocker,Resolved: notourbug] <mvo> bryce: how likely is that for gutsy? oh, and will we get the latest ati driver from experimental :) ? it contains some nice fixes for compiz <bryce> mvo, I can talk more about it with timo, however I had been planning on postponing it until gutsy+1 since I get the impression we'll need debian's involvement but I get the sense they won't be looking at it in the near term <bryce> yes, the ati driver should be here soon <mvo> I'm not adcoating that we need to enable it if it is a risk, its just unfortunate that compiz upstream is using it now and we are sort of excluded <bryce> tepsipakki said he'd upload it today. Sounds like maybe we can just sync from debian <mvo> cool * bryce nods <bryce> I think it's going to be a moderately-high important task for gutsy+1 <mvo> it seems that other distros (opensuse, fedora) ship with a xcb-xlib? <mvo> how do they manage? <jcristau> last i checked, fedora didn't use xlib-xcb <bryce> sorry, I'm being called to breakfast. bbiab. <bryce> Btw, I put in the main inclusion request for displayconfig-gtk the other day :-) <bryce> I'm hoping it gets in soon, since that's a prereq for two specs <jcristau> oh, it does now <seb128> mvo: previous cycle when we had the xlib-xcb issues fedora was not using it, I've not looked recently though <jcristau> %changelog <jcristau> * Mon Jul 23 2007 Adam Jackson <rodriguezcrystal@example.org> 1.1.2-1 <jcristau> - libX11 1.1.2. <jcristau> - Enable XCB for libX11 transport. <mvo> bryce: rock! <mvo> jcristau: thanks <mvo> seb128: right, as I said, I'm not advocating to enable it (yet ;) - just getting a picture of it <seb128> mvo: do we still want to track compiz git at this point? we are not too far from UVF now, and they just rolled a new stable, might make sense to just use it? <jcristau> i don't know when java is going to be fixed... <mvo> seb128: its a stable unstable ("Compiz 0.5 is the developmental version") <seb128> on an other hand we should better push those change this cycle that next one if they need some adjustments <mvo> seb128: currently we do not have any option, we need to stop tracking it <bryce> back #ubuntu-x 2007-08-10 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #131464 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Wrong firmware for ivtv driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131464 <ubotu> New bug: #131386 in Ubuntu "Tribe 4 LiveCD boots with HUGE fonts and icons (dup-of: 118745)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131386 <jcristau> tepsipakki: i'd argue that "rejected by upstream" is a good reason to drop a patch, but not my call either in this case :) <tepsipakki> yes, that's true <ubotu> New bug: #131548 in xorg (main) "X forces low refresh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131548 <ubotu> New bug: #127620 in xorg (main) "keyboard repeat not enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127620 <keescook> bryce: mdetect patch looks way cleaner with your new version. I'm building it now <keescook> though I thought you had a manpage at one point? <bryce> oh did I? lemme look <keescook> you made changes to the manpage lines in rules, but it seemed to backfire. <keescook> (i.e. no manpages are in the package now) <keescook> I'm reworking it to use dh_installman instead of the deprecated dh_installmanpages <bryce> btw, I noticed the mdetect package had the manpage rule commented out <bryce> I uncommented it but couldn't get it to work <bryce> ahh <keescook> yeah, the Makefile was dropping it directly into the build tree, it seems. I don't think that's how it's supposed to work. <bryce> aha yes I have a man page <bryce> sent <keescook> thanks <bryce> oh, and I just noticed the numbering got screwed up <bryce> 156.14.161.142ubuntu1 s/b 156.14.161.142-0ubuntu1 <keescook> actually, I think it's correct as-is (since it's a "native" package) <bryce> really? huh <keescook> e.g. see "reportbug"'s version <bryce> ah I trust you to know all the ins and outs <bryce> you'd be proud of me; yesterday at Intel I explained about the ~foo numbering option <bryce> they've been suffering from trying to do their internal re-numbering of things, and then running into conflicts with similarly named official packages later, etc. <keescook> hehe, excellent! <keescook> okay, mdetect uploaded. <bryce> yay! thanks <bryce> tepsipakki: one thing we should think about is using the randr-1.2 branch of the radeon driver <ubotu> New bug: #130131 in xresprobe (main) "[gutsy] colored blocks during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130131 <ubotu> New bug: #131646 in xorg (main) "Can't select correct resolution (1280x800) Gutsy Tribe 4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131646 <ubotu> New bug: #130832 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx installation is broken after reboot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130832 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-11 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #131751 in xorg-server (main) "Unable to switch Virtual Terminal with C-A-F[1-6] on Intel-based new laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131751 <ubotu> New bug: #131775 in xserver-xorg-video-unichrome (universe) "please update to the latest git" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131775 <ubotu> New bug: #123222 in xorg (main) "[GUTSY] GUI fails when running in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123222 <ubotu> New bug: #131799 in xorg (main) "Dell Inspiron E1505 Can't Install/Load Live CD on Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131799 <ubotu> New bug: #131820 in xkeyboard-config (main) "X.org is missing a keymap definition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131820 <jcristau> bryce: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/versions_current.html doesn't have any debian versions today? <bryce> oh, I have to manually switch my /etc/apt/sources.list to turn off the debian repository when pulling ubuntu sources, and I often forget to turn it back on. one sec <bryce> tis up <jcristau> thanks <ubotu> New bug: #131833 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy tribe 4] video playback blanks / corrupts when displaying other items (dup-of: 122979)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131833 <ubotu> New bug: #85455 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "D-Link DWA-547 wireless card doesn't work" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85455 <ubotu> New bug: #36221 in libxt (main) "/etc/X11 is not being included in default search path" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36221 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-12 <ubotu> New bug: #131888 in libxtst (main) "libxtst6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131888 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #131877 in xorg (main) "mouse cursor disappears upon 2nd login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131877 <ubotu> New bug: #131972 in xorg (main) "colour banding on gradients with i810 on i845" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131972 <ubotu> New bug: #131995 in xorg (main) "playing a video in various players crashes X or KDE in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131995 <ubotu> New bug: #132049 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Radeon 9250 SE has no solution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132049 <ubotu> New bug: #132078 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "945 choosing incorrect frequency for dell e207wfp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132078 <ubotu> New bug: #132080 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "Generic nvidia driver [nv] is not aligned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132080 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-13 <ubotu> New bug: #132082 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "man page wrong/ driver options confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132082 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #3598 in usplash (main) "mtrr allocation failed" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3598 <ubotu> New bug: #112310 in xorg (main) "Setting Wacom pen button to double click doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112310 <ubotu> New bug: #132192 in xorg (main) "ubuntu installation on VAIO VGN-A617M -- Screen Blank" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132192 <tepsipakki> bryce: I'm off to London for a couple of days, and thus offline until Friday :) (just in case there was something urgent) <bryce> heya tepsipakki <bryce> tepsipakki: thanks for getting -ati up :-) <tepsipakki> yeah, so far so good.. or no-one using it/gutsy :) <bryce> tepsipakki: I think most everything's under control now, the one question is whether we want to shoot for xserver 1.4 for gutsy, or leave it for gutsy+1 <bryce> anyway, have a good trip to London, I'll cya Friday <tepsipakki> thanks, I need to pack and sleep a few hours :) <tepsipakki> as ig <tepsipakki> er, if <ubotu> New bug: #132268 in xorg-server (main) "Xorg with composite enabled causes abnormally high cpu usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132268 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-14 <ubotu> New bug: #131872 in xorg (main) "[Gutsy] running glxgears crashes xorg" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131872 <ubotu> New bug: #132360 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[gutsy] vlc doesn't render properly with compiz 'normal desktop effects'" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132360 <kylem> bryce, around? <bryce> yep <kylem> bryce, nm. it can wait until tomorrow. <bryce> ok cool <ubotu> New bug: #132377 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "USB Mouse not work after some time" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132377 <ubotu> New bug: #132400 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "6.06LTS: Computer locks up with nvidia proprietary driver on SMP system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132400 <ubotu> New bug: #132405 in xterm (main) "Please sync xterm (229-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132405 <mvo> bryce: I would like to do some testing/patching for -video-i810 and -video-intel to use xf86XVFillKeyHelperDrawable instead of xf86XVFillKeyHelper in those drivers for better support of composited video <mvo> bryce: -video-ati should be done with the debian/experimental version that we will soon get (as I understand it) <ubotu> New bug: #132432 in mesa (main) "glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132432 <jcristau> #132432 is using the nvidia libGL... <bryce> mvo, ok <mvo> bryce: basicly I would like to get this http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/xserver-xorg-video-i810_1.7.4-0ubuntu5.debdiff one here in to make basic video play under composite work. I have no i810 based laptop yet (I got one now that is currently updating). are you happy with this? should I use a patchsystem? <mvo> bryce: and don't tell me that patch system is quilt ;) <bryce> heh <bryce> can you add a description at the start of the patch for what the patch does (i.e., why switching from xf86XVFillKeyHelper to *Drawable is needed), and specify where the patch comes from (e.g., link to the mailing list discussion or bug url) <mvo> bryce: right, this is more a draft so that you can have a look :) the patch was done my me based on the -video-ati driver, I will certainly improve the description <mvo> bryce: is there a patchsystem I should use or edit it inline? <bryce> debian-x usually uses quilt <bryce> (I know I'm not supposed to tell you that) <mvo> haha <mvo> I was afraid of this answer <bryce> editing inline is fine (I don't use quilt either) <mvo> cool <bryce> as long as it builds and everything stays inside debian/, I'm not fussy :-) <mvo> ok, I will test it on my new-old i810 laptop that I got for testing and if it is ok I will upload. the same dance will have to be done with -intel and maybe -ati (if we do not merge the experimental version there) <mvo> that should fix the video playback problem under compiz <bryce> excellent :-) <jcristau> mvo: what's the problem with quilt? <jcristau> also, is there any plan to use some sort of version control for the ubuntu x packages? <mvo> jcristau: there is no real problem apart from that I forget all the time to run quilt add before editing a file <jcristau> ok <mvo> jcristau: and that I have not found a way yet to create autoreconf patches with it <mvo> without quilt add loads of files beforehand and forgetting half of them <jcristau> yeah, we apply autoreconf stuff directly in the diff <bryce> we'd decided since bzr does not have a git import mechanism currently (or at least when we last discussed it), to use git <mvo> I feel that its not ideal to not have a reference tree to diff against <bryce> however really we only have a couple packages where ubuntu has a significant amount of stuff differing from debian, so it has not been a very high priority for me <jcristau> mvo: sometimes i just create the diff with git, and then put it in debian/patches/ * mvo grumbles about xserver-xorg-video-i810 creating a broken .pc and patches smylink <mvo> bryce: I'm going to upload -video-i810 now, what is the status of -video-ati (sorry for naging, its just that I want to plan what servers needs to be checked for Xv working with compiz) <mvo> bryce: will it be merged? or will we stay with the current version for feature freeze? <jcristau> i think tepsipakki merged it with the experimental version a few days ago <bryce> correct <bryce> we have also been discussing about potentially going with the randr 1.2 branch of -ati, at alex's recommendation, however we're not yet certain about the stability of it compared with main. <ubotu> New bug: #132523 in xserver-xorg-driver-neomagic (main) "[feisty] xserver crashes running xzgv over ssh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132523 <mvo> bryce: is that something that we can decide after feature-freeze? or will it have to be done by then? <bryce> well, I'd want it done before feature freeze. I'm not sure there's sufficient time though. <bryce> however having xrandr functionality in -ati would be _way cool_ esp. for projector users <bryce> but for -ati I think stability would trump way-cool arguments <jcristau> i expect it'll have a bunch of regressions, as it hasn't been tested very extensively yet <bryce> yes, as well if there are fixes in the main branch, it could involve a lot of backporting work <mvo> hm, I'm inclined to backport the make-compiz-happy-with-xv patch to -ati then if you are unsure if we get the new one or not <bryce> yes do <bryce> I'm fairly sure we won't be switching to the xrandr branch. I might post a deb of it to my web space for people to play with. <mvo> ok, thanks <ubotu> New bug: #109357 in xorg (main) "gnome crashes upon relogin" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109357 #ubuntu-x 2007-08-15 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log <ubotu> New bug: #132622 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Color palette corruption on Radeon 7200 "All-In-Wonder"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132622 <ubotu> New bug: #132633 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Video playback is horizontally stretched for GMA965 (X3100)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132633 <ubotu> New bug: #132635 in xorg (main) "delete from font path not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132635 <jcristau> bryce: no debian versions again on http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/versions_current.html :) <ubotu> New bug: #132700 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "r300: poor 2D performance in some apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132700 <ubotu> New bug: #132707 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "r300: poor compiz performance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132707 <ubotu> New bug: #132716 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ATI Driver Gets Black Screen on Radeon 7500 Mobile (Regression)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132716 <bryce> jcristau: fixed <jcristau> thanks * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-x.log #ubuntu-x 2007-08-16 <bryce> jcristau, I notice in mesa-7.0.1 that debian has some changes to parameter ordering for some macros in r300_texstate.c and I'm curious about them? <bryce> e.g. line 75: _ASSIGN(RGBA8888, R300_EASY_TX_FORMAT(Z, Y, X, W, W8Z8Y8X8)), <bryce> vs <bryce> _ASSIGN(RGBA8888, R300_EASY_TX_FORMAT(Y, Z, W, X, W8Z8Y8X8)), <ubotu> New bug: #132807 in xorg (main) "cant change screen resolution." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132807 <bryce> jcristau: nevermind, I figured it out. <jcristau> yeah, i don't think we have any changes there <ubotu> New bug: #131821 in xorg-server "Random Dell D600 Keyboard Freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131821 <ubotu> New bug: #132838 in xorg (main) "periodic screen flashes after unplugging an external monitor, ATI card" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132838 <seb128> the new ati driver seems to freeze my computer when using a web browser, is that a known issue? <jcristau> seb128: not sure, but you can file a bug on fd.o and make it a blocker for #11749 (xf86-video-ati 6.7 release) <seb128> jcristau: is there any debug informations that would be nice to
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