#ubuntu-ie 2011-04-01 <mokmeister> Hi all, anyone know how I find Students Union Room 3 in UL for the UBJ? <ebel> wllo <ebel> mokmeister: infoturtle is organising the limeric UGL, so wait till they're online and ask? <mokmeister> Indeed, good suggestion, thanks. <ebel> or czajkowski might know more about UL, or who else might know <czajkowski> mokmeister: in through the ULSU <czajkowski> and turn right <czajkowski> and go up the stairs <czajkowski> and the rooms are numbered <czajkowski> the ULSU is close to the stables bar <czajkowski> so you should be able to follow signs for it <mokmeister> Grand, thanks czajkowski <czajkowski> np <czajkowski> davem: PING <davem> 'sup <czajkowski> davem: see pm <infoturtle> ebel, I'm making a live stream on the site tomorrow for things happening in Limerick in case people want to drop by, should I record and broadcast your intro too? <ebel> infoturtle: eh if you want. <ebel> We should do a dual screen thing <infoturtle> just think it would be good to have videos of past events and the intro would be a good one, the one person I had comming with me in the morning canceled so I won't be giving one in the morning <infoturtle> not till I get company <ebel> http://rmc.blip.tv/ twouldn't be the first time I put a video of me talking up :) <infoturtle> ah fantastic stuff, don't have the download limit to watch it all at the moment <infoturtle> stupid usb's <ebel> :) <infoturtle> so you wana trow your own vids up then? just wanted to make sure it was covered <ebel> i dunno if we'll record it. sounds a bit complicated... <infoturtle> I was going to use recordmydesktop to (as the name sugests) record whats on my desktop with internal audio, so it would be easy nuff this end <ebel> oh yeah! <infoturtle> sure, if you want me to, let me know <airurando> evening all <infoturtle> hello Mr. airurando <airurando> hey hey infoturtle <airurando> all set? <infoturtle> little worried, my friend who was comming with me canceled so I could be a while on me own <infoturtle> other than that set and looking forward <airurando> donÂ´t forget the camera <infoturtle> :D <infoturtle> I'llhave it packed tonight <airurando> good stuff. #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-02 <ebel> Hello from the Ubuntu Ireland (Dublin) Jam <ebel> In TOGF <ebel> * TOG <airurando> good morning ubuntuie <airurando> have a great UGJ day <airurando> ebel is just setting up stuff in TOG. <infoturtle> hey all <ebel> yo yo <infoturtle> just getting set up, problem with keys this morning <ebel> hehehe * ebel has found a web cam, let's see if it works <infoturtle> bring it on <airurando> are you alone infoturtle? <infoturtle> ha ha <infoturtle> sure am <infoturtle> I'm sure some more will come later <mokmeister> hey infoturtle! Getting ready to leave now, way behind with getting kids organised and stuff, will be in by twelve methinks! <infoturtle> egg salad mokmeister, you'll have to ring me to get in tho, my numbers on the door <infoturtle> ebel any luck with that web cam? <ebel> sorta, forgot linux was a pain with flash :P <ebel> bah <ebel> silly webcam <ebel> if anyone knows how to do streaming on linux, let me know <infoturtle> I do but its an awkward set up, involves using desktop streaming as output to ustream or a site like that <ebel> yeah... <ebel> i was looking at ustream <ebel> but couldn't get it detecting the camera <infoturtle> neither could I ever, try using cheese webcam booth, it picks up nearly every web cam, then use recordmydesktop 9http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/downloads.php) to put the desktop recording as an output the ustream understand, it's pointlessly long but works <ebel> ah like a loop... <infoturtle> indeed <ebel> i've used recordmydesktop before to make videos, didn't think about making it streaming... <ebel> i've used recordmydesktop before to make videos, didn't think about making it streaming... <infoturtle> it's actually the only way I've ever been able to stream <infoturtle> in linux anyway <infoturtle> friends have come! <airurando> cool <airurando> UGJ Dublin are going to lunch <infoturtle> I have a silly question, after I find a bug I wish to work on where can I find the code to work on? <ebel> You can get the source code for any ubuntu package with "apt-get source PACKAGENAME" <ebel> you may also want to do "sudo apt-get builddep PACKAGENAME" which will install all the extra packages you need in order to rebuild/compile/test a package <infoturtle> ok, then I need to find what package this bug refers to as it seems not to be listed <infoturtle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/ubiquity/+bug/651932 <lubotu3> Ubuntu bug 651932 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) "Without internet connection, the installer shouldn't recommend the updates during installation, or third party software" [Low,New] <ebel> Well assiging a bug to a package is a good thing to do. <ebel> Looks like that bug is assigned to ubiquity <ebel> You can tell from the bot's reply here. <infoturtle> ah, ha ha, thats class <infoturtle> to ubiquity!! <ebel> :) <sheena> Hi <ebel> hi sheena <infoturtle> well done Sheena, you finally got in! <sheena> haha, cheers! <airurando> ping infoturtle <infoturtle> ping airurando <infoturtle> was letting more people in <infoturtle> hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm, I've no idea what to do with this source..... <infoturtle> this isn't a good day <ebel> ah <ebel> well if you can patch it, you could submit the patch <ebel> sometimes it can be difficult to try to figure out what's going on... <infoturtle> it sure can <infoturtle> I kinda know what i want to do but don't know where to find the checks <ebel> don't forget to take photos of your event! :P <airurando> infoturtle do as ebel says :) <infoturtle> ha ha <infoturtle> I just took a load cos I can't find anything thing else usful to do <infoturtle> also proof we have two girls here <sheena> lol <ebel> all people regardless of gender are welcome. <infoturtle> hows the dublin end of things going? <infoturtle> Ubuntu bug free yet? <airurando> nearly. <infoturtle> I've tried two bugs and fix none <airurando> infoturtle: did you run system testing? <airurando> the more people that system testing the better <airurando> only you can test your hardware <airurando> infoturtle ping <infoturtle> sup airurando <tdr112> how is the bug jams going <ebel> good * ebel is just leaving now <ebel> BBL for socal <czajkowski> Aloha <airurando> evening <airurando> hi micflan * micflan waves <airurando> micflan: I haven't seen you in here before. <airurando> not saying you wern't in here before :) <micflan> I wandered in yesterday :) <airurando> nice to meet you! <micflan> thanks, you too <airurando> you involved with the ubuntu project in any way? <micflan> no, just a user <airurando> ditto <micflan> I'm a php developer <micflan> mostly php anyway <airurando> ah. I'm just a home user. <micflan> cool <airurando> micflan: what part of the country are you in? <micflan> Dublin <airurando> or country :) <airurando> cool <micflan> yourself? <airurando> kildare <airurando> but I hook up with the Dub crew <airurando> we had a Ubuntu Global Jam event today in TOG <micflan> last thursday of every month? <micflan> oh, cool <airurando> nah last Thursday is Limerick <airurando> last wednesday is Dublin :) <airurando> probably be last thursday in Dublin this month as Thurs 28th is Nattys release date! <airurando> no point in having Ubuntu Hour on Wednesday 27th and then a release party on Thursday 28th <micflan> cool, might head along to that <airurando> to clarify, thursday 28th is the current likely date for the release party <airurando> you heard it here first :) <airurando> and you would be most welcome at the party <micflan> cool :) <micflan> have you been using Unity yet? <airurando> stay tuned to www.ubuntu-ie.org and loco.ubuntu.com for details. <airurando> Unity.... yip <micflan> bit apprehensive about the change in desktop <airurando> loaded 11.04 beta 1 on Thursday <airurando> apprehensive.... you and me both <micflan> yeah, I downloaded that last night. Going to put it in a virtualbox, just haven't gotten around to it yet <airurando> still I'm trying it to help out <airurando> bugs and stuff <micflan> yeah <airurando> hope they get it right by 12.04 LTS :) <micflan> it's won't be right for 11.04 then? :) <airurando> can't say. <airurando> I'm sure there will be some issues <airurando> as a home user I believe in the importance of the LTS releases. <airurando> php developers and others such as yourself can happily use the 6 monthly iterations <micflan> sure <micflan> I just can't resist playing with the new toys :) <micflan> but at the same time, I definitely need something that *works* <airurando> well I must say based on my very limited exposure to 11.04 I'm impressed so far. <airurando> you can see some of the Dublin based crew at: <airurando> http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/406258 <airurando> not great pics but they are 3 very active members of the LoCo. <micflan> cool <airurando> thankfully you don't get to look at my mug in that selection as I was the bad photographer :) <micflan> :) <airurando> the guy holding up the mug of coffee is the ubuntu ireland LoCo point of contact. <airurando> Rory McCann or ebel on IRC. <airurando> lalonde on twitter I believe <airurando> Julie and Tom are the other two <micflan> cool, will give him an aul follow on twitter anyway <micflan> I'm micflan pretty much anywhere online btw. twitter.com/micflan delicious.com/micflan micflan.com etc :) <airurando> will certainly add you to my follow list <airurando> I'm (as seen here) airurando. <airurando> micflan: I am your 470th twitter follower. <micflan> :) <airurando> don't use delicious I'm afraid. <airurando> real nice talking to you and I do hope to meet you in person soon. :) <micflan> no worries... I don't use the social side of it at all really. Just somewhere I store bookmarks <airurando> do keep up to speed with events on ubuntu-ie.org and our team page on loco.ubuntu.com <micflan> yeah, will do, cheers. And I'm sure I'll idle in here too most of the time, now that I'm aware of it :) <airurando> great stuff. <airurando> not a busy channel but definitely a friendly one :) #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-04 <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/ food for thought folks <slashtom> so we don't need an ubuntu hour and can instead revert to the potd? <czajkowski> slashtom: not my call any more slashtom <slashtom> aye, i did suggest it :) <czajkowski> you're rather anti them :) <slashtom> it's splitting the linux community <slashtom> the ILUG is more inclusive, and they may get more than 4 people attending * slashtom holds on to ebel, stop him falling off the internet <czajkowski> slashtom: as I said it's not my call any more, my only worry is you revert to a potd and not an Ubuntu hour it's more a lug than a loco * ebel holds on! <slashtom> aye, but it's about the linux community <slashtom> maybe i'm biased, as i'm not primarily an ubuntu user <czajkowski> no it;s about the Ubuntu community. sorry. <czajkowski> if it;s a linux community then it becomes a lug <slashtom> ok, we won't talk with the fedora community :P <czajkowski> and if the loco is a lug, then it is not a loco <czajkowski> thats not it at all <czajkowski> *sigh* I'm too sick to go into this argument again <czajkowski> g'night <tdr112> its a bit early to sleep czajkowski <tdr112> i am coming around to think the same as slashtom , <slashtom> careful now <tdr112> having them each month is a bit ba <ShaneM> Anyone know if there's a fix to this problem? http://programmingbulls.com/ubuntu-major-troubles-ubuntu-11-04-alpha-3 #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-05 <Belserusk> Hi. Can anyone think of a great SSID name? <ebel> morning <Belserusk> ebel, morning. <moylan> call it honeypot :-D <moylan> whoops, he's already left <daxroc> Morning <airurando> evening all <czajkowski> aloha <airurando> hi czajkowski <airurando> how is the back? <czajkowski> little bit better <czajkowski> ]trade off with the stomach <Pendulum> is the stomach from the meds? <czajkowski> yup <airurando> czajkowski: you are in the wars poor you. <airurando> hope all improves soon. <czajkowski> aye just bleugh <ebel> yo <airurando> yo yo <airurando> ebel: see there is a new form for submitting CD requests. <airurando> https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/ <ebel> I saw an email about shipit discontinuesd <ebel> Looks like I might be able to just enter your address in there.. <czajkowski> it is for NON approved teams. <ebel> "Free Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) CDs are available for all APPROVED LoCo teams." <ebel> "will only be <ebel> accepted from the team contacts of APPROVED LoCo teams. All other <ebel> requests will be rejected." <czajkowski> and yer an approved team <czajkowski> so ye get them <ebel> yes, but that page is for approved teams.. <ebel> right? <czajkowski> sorry in a meeting, we still get the cds as we're approved <ebel> ok. do we still have to fill in that form? <ebel> (no ruish) <czajkowski> yes #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-06 <czajkows1i> hmm <airurando> good evening ubuntu-ie #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-07 <airurando> evening <moylan> hi <airurando> hi moylan <moylan> all well? <airurando> sorry I missed you <airurando> child going to sleep emergency i'm afraid. <airurando> yeah apart from that <airurando> and you <moylan> no worries. kids are a handfull <moylan> waiting eagerly for 11.04 :-) <airurando> ditto <airurando> we tested the beta at global jam last saturday <moylan> wished i could make it but not an option at the mo. <airurando> no problem <airurando> where are you based? <moylan> dublin <airurando> cool <moylan> yourself? <airurando> kildare <airurando> work in west dub <moylan> doesn't everybody (judging by traffic) :-D <airurando> indeed <airurando> moylan, will you make the release party? <moylan> going to try but but will have to see closer to the day. <airurando> if so any preference on date or venue? <moylan> i think it'll be the usual jimmy chungs all you can eat chinese followed by pub. i'll skip the chinese and head to the pub. <airurando> good stuff <airurando> yeah jimmy chungs was the only preference expressed <moylan> it seems popular with the linux crowd. nerds and junk food. who knew? :-) <airurando> indeed again <moylan> so what got you into linux? <airurando> ohhhhhhhhhhh <airurando> long scattered story <airurando> first up <airurando> must confess <airurando> I'm just a simple home user <moylan> nothing wrong with that! <airurando> back in 1999 I was working in the US and bored <airurando> discovered linux and barely got red hat 5.something up and running <airurando> enjoyed it but didn't understand it <moylan> same as my self. 5.2 got it working but wasn't able to do much with it. <airurando> snap! <moylan> then i distro hopped for a few years learning a little new each time. <airurando> I came back home in 2000 and drifted away from linux <airurando> only came back to ubuntu in 2008 <moylan> in the end it was that i colonised my windows systems with open source software. firefox, thunderbird, python, vim, cygwin. <airurando> moylan: what is it you do? I'm a microbiologist by trade. <moylan> i'm a joat (jack of all trades). program a little, tech support software and hardware a lot. general dogsbody. <airurando> glad you explained joat :) <airurando> are you central Dub? <moylan> well i.t. is a weird job. every position has a unique skillset. mine just kept expanding. <moylan> live in killiney at the mo. <airurando> right <airurando> be good to see you at a Ubuntu hour or the Natty release party if you can make it/ <moylan> how did you get into microbiology? <airurando> 1988 (I hear you gasp) <airurando> NUIG or UCG as it was then called <moylan> i'm 40. not shocked. :-) <airurando> Science <airurando> hons degree in Microbiology in 1992 <airurando> Ph.D in Microbiology 1997 (again NUIG) <airurando> 1998 post Doc in the US <airurando> back home in 200o <airurando> moylan 40. great same era <moylan> many jobs in microbiology in ireland in these troubled times? <airurando> not particularly but I'm ok at the mo. <moylan> just that ireland is a fairly small pool tech wise. microbiology seems (to an outsider at least) more suited to a richer larger country. <airurando> ah no <airurando> pharma sector is big here <moylan> but i thought that was only production <airurando> microbiology is critical the many pharma types but particularly biopharma <moylan> and more on topic i'm guessing all the systems at work are windows? <airurando> bullseye <airurando> I even plucked up the courage to suggest OSS options to the IT department in the current climate. <airurando> but I would not have done that in years gone by. <moylan> the it department would be crazy to adopt oss. they would put themselves out of a job. <airurando> nah <airurando> support and implementation are key. <moylan> have you ever watched yes minister? <airurando> wow.... curve ball! <airurando> but yes <moylan> it's like sir humphrey discussing department budgets been the central purpose of the department. a department that saves money will be given less money. so that must NEVER happen. <airurando> ah now I see <airurando> but that is not the case in the current climate <moylan> likewise if there is less need for systems to be rebuilt and fixed then they will lay off the staff not needed. microsoft depends on this. <airurando> indeed but outsourcing IT needs is doing this anyway. <moylan> of course this gives an advantage to a startup that uses oss as they have less overheads to start with. <airurando> get it as cheaply and compliant as possible is the new mantra I feel <airurando> and this is good IMO <moylan> out sourcing i.t. is... a joke. i've dealt with outsourced tech support and 99% of it is more expensive in the long run. <airurando> agreed <moylan> language barriers, time delays, incompetence are par for the course. no matter what is promised. <airurando> agreed again! <airurando> great talking to you moylan <moylan> take care. <airurando> really hope to talk to you in person soon <airurando> must dash <airurando> take care <airurando> an <airurando> good night <moylan> slainte <infoturtle> how do all, anyone online? <moylan> yup <infoturtle> how do moylan <moylan> not to bad. waiting for 11.04 with bated breath! :-) <infoturtle> ha, I know, going be fun alright, gnome 3.0 came out yesterday so it'll be the 1st thing I change <moylan> not so sure about unity but will wait and see before passing judgement. <infoturtle> don't like it at all, it's all about gnome for me, love the look o it <infoturtle> theres a testing .iso for it I'm mad to try but internets on a download limit so I can't download load anything big here <moylan> i don't like radical change in these things. the devil you know and all that. but i want to give it a go. <moylan> large iso? isn't that why jobs were invented? :-D <infoturtle> no job :c spend all day working on a loss generating site and waiting for an app for collage to go through <moylan> ah, sorry! hope that goes ok for you. <infoturtle> we'll see, it's all try and try again isn't it <moylan> and then 10 minutes when i get my breath back... sorry watching blackadder! <infoturtle> what you work at? <infoturtle> ha, love blackadder! <moylan> off work last year due to arthritis. bloody annoying! <moylan> who doesn't love blackadder!? crazy! <infoturtle> now thats a balls! sorry to hear <moylan> shit happens. only my right hip so luckier than most with this disease. but it makes standing, walking, sitting excrutiating <infoturtle> ah, the main functions so! <infoturtle> I just popped on to see if I could get log in details for what ever site the UGJ pics went up on. was busy all week with a C# project but I've failed it so now have the time to put the pics of the Limerick one up <moylan> think they were tweeted. give me a few minutes and i'll have a rummage. <infoturtle> sweet, thanks #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-08 <moylan> bugger twitter page and tweetdeck won't show searches for more than 4 days ago. let me think... <infoturtle> ah tis grand, I'll find someone with em tomorrow <moylan> sorry. <infoturtle> not to worry, I'm a forgiving turtle :p * infoturtle tucks inside his shell and sleeps <moylan> see ya <Belserusk> Hi. What is your favorite GNOME Window Border? <ebel> default? <daxroc> Morning <czajkowski> Aloha <slashtom> good morning <automaciej> ahoy * automaciej is new to the channel <ebel> hello <airurando> afternoon <airurando> fab weather isn't it? <slashtom> hello! <infoturtle> allo all <Tigerplug292> hey all <czajkowski> aloha <automaciej> czajkowski: just listened to a part of the ubuntu uk podcast (about rms) <czajkowski> :) <automaciej> I'm currently researching if I can set up some kind of multitrack audio recording on ubuntu. <automaciej> finding realtime kernels for maverick was a kind of a hassle <automaciej> ...until I discovered that you can create your own ppa on launchpad, copy a realtime natty kernel and declare "it's for maverick!" <automaciej> voila, launchpad automagically built maverick kernels for me <automaciej> \o/ <czajkowski> automaciej: I am also in the next episode after RMS one <automaciej> awesome, I'll definitely keep listening to that podcast <automaciej> I recently found a website with a long list of open source related podcasts and subscribed to them all ;-) <czajkowski> well I'm only on two but uupc is a good show <mokmeister> automaciej: HAve you ever checked out Studio 64 distro or the like <automaciej> czajkowski: if you're a community person it would make sense for you to keep appearing <automaciej> mokmeister: there's the Ubuntu Studio, has a maverick release, haven't checked it out yet. <automaciej> I need to carve a separate partition for it, I haven't done it yet. <czajkowski> automaciej: all the folks on the uupc are community folks <automaciej> czajkowski: have you appeared on any other podcasts? <czajkowski> an irish once twice <czajkowski> pc live <czajkowski> talking about Ubuntu in ireland <automaciej> pc live... haven't heard of it yet * automaciej checks out info on his favorite source of unreliable information <automaciej> http://www.pcliveradio.ie/ â that might be it <czajkowski> yes <automaciej> http://www.pcliveradio.ie/open-source-barcamp/ <automaciej> cool <czajkowski> yeah I appear on two #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-09 <automaciej> turns out, ubuntustudio is already available from main maverick repos, you just select the metapackage * automaciej vanishes <Tigerplug292> hey - anyone have a three huawei e1750 mobile broadband dongle running on ubuntu? <ebel> hiya <ebel> i have a meteor 3g usb dongle, works fine on ubuntu #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-10 <ubuntu_mad> hi peeps <ubuntu_mad> can you direct me to the correct place for 11.04 issues via irc <ubuntu_mad> found it #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-13 <airurando> morning <root___> damn there's a lot of ubunutu channels <ebel> yeah <ebel> IRC is used for a lot of ubuntu development <slashtom> oh, i think there may be a PoTD tomorrow <infoturtle> airurando ping <airurando> hello infoturtle <infoturtle> hello, are you well? any chance you could DM the user name and password for the site to put the pics of UGJ Limerick up? <infoturtle> I can't seem to keep on to passwords <airurando> will do <airurando> just getting them now <infoturtle> fantastic, thanks! <airurando> done <airurando> let me know when they are up <airurando> infoturtle, while you are here. <infoturtle> yes? <airurando> I know there are some who want to drop/amalgamate UH Dub in preference to ILUG PoTD. <airurando> I can understand this. <airurando> not deciding that here (probably at next weeks meeting) <airurando> but for this month at least, with the release party likely set for the evening of Thurdsay 28th of April, should we just drop UHD and UHL? <infoturtle> sorry, be right back, my mam just called and wants to drop something off, I've to go meet her <airurando> UHD would be due to tsake place on 27th and UHL on 28th <airurando> no bother <infoturtle> sorry bout that <infoturtle> Well is their a want to convert the UHL to a Ilug POTD? if not I say leave it as it is if that suits everybody <infoturtle> the turn out is usally just two of us so I wouldn't say changing the name will help us in anyway <airurando> nah I'm speaking specifically about dublin for the amalgamation with PoTD <infoturtle> oh <airurando> the concept behing UH differs from PoTD. <airurando> but some of the Dublin crew don't believe UHD is working with just the same folks turning up each month. <airurando> low numbers also <airurando> before UH the Irish LoCo guys attended the PoTD regularly. <airurando> not sure what will be decided long term but just for this month I'm suggesting we scrap both UH events for the release party. <airurando> having UHD on the 27th and UHL on the 28th seems pointless when we're likely having the release party on the 28th. <airurando> infoturtle, what say you? <infoturtle> ah, now I see where this is going <infoturtle> never spotted the dates were so close <infoturtle> OK, I can still get my fix of Ubuntu out and about-ness from the release and we can discuss it in dept at the meeting next week but I agree with leaving out the UH for this month <airurando> good. I'm a bit worried that this hasn't been agreed at meeting but I only thought of it recently <airurando> will try to get others opinions over the coming days <infoturtle> well, we both suffer from the problem of having the same people attend over and over so as long and they agree and we just make a notice that there will be no UH this month I don't think anyone will be let down <airurando> I'll cancass opinions anyway to be safe. <airurando> *canvass <airurando> regarding the future of UHL that is completely up to you guys. I would love if it continued. You could invite others to attend and perhaps ammend the title to UH + something. <airurando> don't really have that option in Dublin. <infoturtle> t'would be best, how do you inteend asking people? should we put in on the social sites, mailing list of Ubuntu-ie.org? just wondering if I can help <infoturtle> I think UHL as a name works, just need more awareness about it, I duno though, maybe others have ideas about it <airurando> suppose we can chat about it face to face next thursday :0 <airurando> sorry <airurando> :) <infoturtle> ya, that would work better! <infoturtle> pics are up (sorry for the ages it took, internets painfully slow) <infoturtle> http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/407407 <airurando> thanks infoturtle, they look great. <airurando> I see they have made it into our loco dir team page photo stream :) <airurando> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie <infoturtle> some are blurry and hadn't much time to take pics as they only came for the last 2 hours, but ya they look good <infoturtle> ha, wiat till ericka see shes on the ubuntu loco page, now the teasing of being a nerd begins!! <airurando> ha ha #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-14 <airurando> morning all. <slashtom> good morning! <slashtom> is it death to the ubuntu hour? <airurando> ha ha <airurando> to be decided at a meeting I think <airurando> shame really <airurando> I can see both sides to the story <airurando> UH is different in purpose to PoTD * slashtom suggests all those who vote to keep it turn up to the Ubuntu Hour <airurando> however that purpose doesn't seem to working here at the moment <airurando> slashtom: good point but that is not always possible <airurando> As I see it PoTD is a social get together for uber linux geeks <slashtom> isn't that what Ubuntu Hour is? <airurando> As far as I know it's not. <airurando> UH is a very social event for users or wamma be users of Ubuntu <airurando> *wanna <airurando> far less uber geeks <slashtom> ok, PoTD is pretty much the same but for all Linux users not just the Ubuntu ones <airurando> drop in event for folks to find out more about Ubuntu <slashtom> has that happened? <airurando> yeah but I'd argue that PoTD is a lot more intimidating to wanna be ubuntu users. <airurando> has that happened? no you are absolutely right <airurando> and that is the problem <airurando> maybe we haven't promoted it right? <airurando> maybe Irish folks are not interested enough to attend one? <airurando> maybe Irish wanna be users are to shy or not confident enough to attend one? <airurando> lots of possibilities <slashtom> or people who want to find out more or solve their problems are using the internet? <airurando> indeed <airurando> as I said slashtom I see both sides. <airurando> It's not working for us at present for whatever reason. <airurando> but UH is a seperate type of event to PoTD. <airurando> slashtom: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour <airurando> first line states what UH should be. <slashtom> if you want to be different to PoTD... <slashtom> why not a coffee shop, first saturday of the month or something <airurando> aye indeed <airurando> slashtom: Its not that I or we want to be different from PoTD. <airurando> simply UH is an event with a different purpose. <airurando> thats all I'm saying <airurando> speaking as one of those lesser geeks UH was more apealing to me that PoTD. <ebel> hmm, regular weekend coffee shop... <airurando> anyone going to oggcamp? <ShaneM> airurando: Yep <airurando> Hi ShaneM <airurando> good for you. <airurando> do you know modes of transportation from Gatwick to Farnham <slashtom> http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ <airurando> in fact does anyone know the best way to get from Gatwick to Farnham? <airurando> thanks slashtom. <ShaneM> airurando: I've no idea to be honest. <ShaneM> airurando: I'm going to try and get a flight from Cork. <slashtom> i would have thought heathrow would be better <slashtom> but out of the cheap airports, gatwick would be much better than luton or stansted <airurando> ShaneM: I'm mulling over the possibility <airurando> slashtom: really? <slashtom> unless you get a hire car from gatwick <ShaneM> airurando: I haven't really looked at anything yet to be honest. <ShaneM> Probably will at the end of the month or so <ebel> gatwick is a larger airport <ebel> and has a trainstation <ebel> you can get from gatwick to the center of london on the gatwick express for something like Â£15 ? <slashtom> heathrow is not bad either <ebel> train station is right in the airport <ebel> heathrow has a tube station in it <slashtom> but best to avoid luton and stansted <slashtom> it does <ebel> birmingham airport also has a train station in it, real easy to get into birmingham city centre from the airport <airurando> rudimentary understanding of the map of the area. Thought Gatwick would be best. <airurando> so long as transport was available to farnham <slashtom> airurando: from gatwick you're going via central london <slashtom> even by car, it's longer as you would be going via motorway <slashtom> i don't know about heathrow * airurando knows nothing <airurando> :( <airurando> not sue I can swing it yet <airurando> needs to be cheap <slashtom> you know skyscanner.net? <airurando> I am off work for the first time and the flights currently look cheap...hmm <airurando> slashtom; no I don't. <slashtom> remember, no hand luggage ;) <airurando> Eh? * airurando dashes off to collect the youngest kid from school <ebel> airurando: i.e. fly with a budget airline and only take hand luggage <ebel> makes the flights might cheaper <airurando> I see the Zorin OS guys are branching into hardware. <airurando> http://zorinpc.com/ <airurando> Good luck to them. <airurando> ebel: if I'm going that was my plan it's just slashtoms last statement said remember, no hand luggage ;) <airurando> presume that was just sarcasm? <ebel> hehe he probabaly mistyped <ebel> My mum fly *loads* of times with a check in bag. twas silly <ebel> once the bag-on-wheels weighed 7 kg. <ebel> she was paying â¬20 for that. <ebel> sometimes people can forget about these things... <slashtom> aye, my mum gets no choice... i book her flights <slashtom> ebel: your sister is just as bad #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-15 <syngindub> anyone here fed up with the current direction that ubuntu are going with their current release? <syngindub> i've switched to mint recently <infoturtle> hello syngindub, what's it you don;t like? <syngindub> hi infoturtle..i don't like an OS presuming i'm a complete idiot :) <infoturtle> you'll hate OSx so <infoturtle> :p <syngindub> i like to customise my OS and the latest version is a big let down. It probably suits more newbies <syngindub> never used OSx, have supported it alright but never used it <infoturtle> TBH I hate it's look, why move to unity when gnome 3 looks sssooooo good! <syngindub> whats the deal with gnome 3 though? <syngindub> do you need to build this yourself? <infoturtle> don't think so, I have an install guide for installing it to try it out if you want it <syngindub> are you installing gnome 3 on top of natty? <infoturtle> yep, soon as I get it I'm installing gnome 3.0 over it, it just looks better and less in the way <infoturtle> http://www.infoturtle.ie/tipsandtricks/installgnome3.0.php <syngindub> cheers for that. Have spent the last few days configuring mint though :) i've been know to blow an OS away after a few drinks though :) <infoturtle> ha ha <infoturtle> well, you just need to put a little bit more into natty to have it the way you'dlike it <IRWolfie-> I switched to arch <syngindub> i tried arch last year <IRWolfie-> seems ubuntu is starting to stray away from gnome <syngindub> highly customisable but i don't have the time for that much though <syngindub> yeah IRWolfie- , it's a huge dissapointment as i've been running it for the past 5 years or so..around breezy <syngindub> they are completely switching emphasis and i feel there will be a major shift in number from their OS after natty gets released <IRWolfie-> I've still got ubuntu on for work <IRWolfie-> but arch for my laptop <syngindub> arch is too cutting edge for my like :) <infoturtle> never used arch, is that it's full name? <syngindub> i used to spend all my time running updates with arch :) <IRWolfie-> arch linux <IRWolfie-> I like updates <IRWolfie-> and I especially like being on the bleeding edge :D <infoturtle> looks fancy! <IRWolfie-> it's not as newbie friendly as ubuntu, but it seems good for learning more <IRWolfie-> next, gentoo! <syngindub> it's great for learning alright..the arch community are great for documentation also <infoturtle> might try it out :D <infoturtle> for now tho, time to get online and play some unreal, see yall later! <syngindub> well worth it..highly configurable #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-16 <airurando> evening all <airurando> I hope your weekends are going well. <infoturtle> stupid over heating cpu :c <airurando> oh dear infoturtle <infoturtle> yep, the heat sync is full of hair and stuff and my friend was playin unreal and it just shutdown <infoturtle> have to clean the out soon <airurando> was just going to ask about the dust <airurando> cat hair in your case I suspect <infoturtle> well. since I put the heat sync on it hasn't been cleaned so it's years of god knows what in there, cat hair most lilkly * airurando thinks all houses should have HEPA filters to protect the electronic stuff. <airurando> :) <infoturtle> might just start geling the cats hair into place, sounds cheaper in the short run <airurando> ha ha :) <airurando> or quit playing games. <infoturtle> aw, turns out I might grab a HEPA filter so <infoturtle> oh ya, must look into booking a place for staying in Dublin for the release party, where might we be close to? not strayin too far from chungs I assume?? <airurando> no idea really <airurando> I'll be trekking up from athy <airurando> won't be staying late either as I've work at 7am next day <airurando> guys at the meeting will be better able to advise <infoturtle> ugh, that sux, would it not suit tohave sugested Friday? <infoturtle> ya ok, I'll ask then <airurando> that weekend I'll be working Fri Sat and Sun starting at 7am each day and not finishing till 7pm so Thurs is the best of a bad lot. <infoturtle> oh man, thats harsh! disadvantages of getting more money than the dole! <syngindub> i need weed <infoturtle> bad place to be looking <syngindub> lol <airurando> infoturtle with 2 kids I'm happy to do it :) <syngindub> im not lookin <airurando> hi syngindub <infoturtle> airurando it's all ahead of me, for now I'll enjoy the freedom of being able to consider 10 x noodles a weekly shop <airurando> infoturtle that is exactly the right attitude <syngindub> hu airurando <syngindub> hi <airurando> syngindub: read earlier you ain't happy with unity <airurando> can't say I blame you <airurando> but remember Ubuntu is for the masses <syngindub> yeah i commented yesterday on this <syngindub> this masses don't interest me :) <syngindub> the <infoturtle> think it's the same as gnome vs kde vs xfce, have which ever one you like installed and use it, I love gnome but have friends who love xfce * airurando read the irc logs at work today <airurando> syngindub fair point (speaking as a member of the masses) :) <airurando> but the desktop environment can always be changed <syngindub> decided to run mint for the time being until i decide what i'll do <airurando> yeah, I saw that <airurando> It's funny really. <airurando> in my house <airurando> my daughter loves unity <airurando> I'm not gone on it <syngindub> i'd say it will appeal to a lot of people alright <infoturtle> think it suits netbooks down to the ground but for desktops not really <syngindub> not at all <airurando> daughter is 9 yr old * infoturtle expresses his view <airurando> infoturtle: I concur <syngindub> i have my daughter very comfotable using linux and windows L) <airurando> syngindub: thats essential <airurando> :) <syngindub> trying to steer her clear of the latter though :) <airurando> indeed <infoturtle> windows has it's features, still use it everyday <syngindub> yeah, well i support a windows env <syngindub> it ain't fun <airurando> syngindub: standard mint or mint <airurando> sorry mind debian <airurando> oh dear <airurando> *mint <syngindub> standard mint. might check out that the mint debian though <airurando> I came from mint to ubuntu <airurando> liked the community around ubuntu <airurando> and the idea behind it <syngindub> i've been OS hopping for about 10 years but nearly always go back to ubuntu alright. <syngindub> just not sure if i'll head in that direction when 11.04 is launched <airurando> yeah it's a real concern <infoturtle> I had kubuntu first and hated the look of it, stoped using it after a week, came back one yeaar later when I left work and loved it <airurando> but for me the driving principal behind ubuntu still excites me. <airurando> *principle <infoturtle> I love that it actually educates its users as they use (I may have spelled some things wrong there) <syngindub> how so? * infoturtle gets drunker as time goes on <infoturtle> off to play me some xbox <infoturtle> cya guys later!! <syngindub> enjoy #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-17 <thethomaseffect> infoturtle: ping <infoturtle> hey thethomaseffect <thethomaseffect> infoturtle: hey man, did you get round to installing drupal on yer hosting yet? <infoturtle> I haven't but I can have it done inside an hour if you want <thethomaseffect> it's up to yourself really! <thethomaseffect> I'm trying to put together a morse code en/decoder so no rush :) <infoturtle> ya sure, we get progress done today, you know anything about progress on moving site hosts? <thethomaseffect> nah I've been awol for the last week, sick with the flu and computer was up in college accommodation <thethomaseffect> part of which has left me with a really sore back, so it's no fun sleeping in on a sunday morning ;__; <infoturtle> not to worry, supose we should follow up on it today, I may end up falling asleep as I have gotten about 4 hours sleep after a drunken night <infoturtle> sleeping on a Sunday is something even god himself does! <thethomaseffect> ha it's grand <thethomaseffect> if ya cna get me some ftp details and access to phpMyAdmin i'll do the rest! <infoturtle> I'll set somethings up for ya <thethomaseffect> savage <infoturtle> what drupal version do we need again thethomaseffect? <thethomaseffect> 7 <thethomaseffect> newest one <infoturtle> didn't we want to start with an older version and work up no? <thethomaseffect> didn't we agree to drop that idea since it would probably end up taking longer? <infoturtle> my remember abilty is about 5~% what it normally is so I'll just install drupal 7 on the server and be quite <thethomaseffect> haha! <thethomaseffect> I'm gonna grab some breakfast, brb <infoturtle> cool <infoturtle> stupid drupal can't access a database that's there and can't contuine the install <davem> have you checked that all of the db details are correct? <davem> thats the most common error <infoturtle> I'm going over everything now, just spotted remote access is off but I'm using localhost so it shouldn't affect it <infoturtle> I hate all forms of SQL........... <davem> infoturtle: you hosted on blacknight? <infoturtle> nope, register 365 <davem> fail :p <infoturtle> I know, but shes cheap <davem> how cheap out of interest? <infoturtle> 3.50~ monthly <davem> you find it good? <infoturtle> it's grand, some poor features like ftp is limited, no ssh, the interface offers little for the user, but for what I use it for, this grand <infoturtle> *tis <infoturtle> no, no remote sql without request either <davem> you're not going to get ssh on shared, how's the ftp limited? <davem> I know we (blacknight) have remote access to any of the mysql and postgres sql db's <infoturtle> sorry, I ment ftp support was limited, it was hard for e to set it up and they offered little help <infoturtle> I'm typing skills are poor based on my lack of sleep & soberness <infoturtle> any idea what this error is on about? <infoturtle> 'sql_mode' can't be set to the value of 'TRADITIONAL' <davem> never seen it before <davem> what are your connection settings? <infoturtle> it's and wizzard install for drupal, it asks me for sql data base settings, I give em the setting and it run queries I can't see so IDK what it's trying to do <davem> you do anything to the db? change any settings? <infoturtle> no, I just created it for this purpose, should be fine, may have to get onto hosting crowd as they don't allow remote access with asking them first, but it's using localhost so I don't get it <infoturtle> i duno, this is just anoying me at this hour <davem> try creating a fresh db <thethomaseffect> did you change the drupal SQl prefix? not the problem but should always be done on shared database just in case <infoturtle> won't matter right now, can't get past the database set up section but I will keep it in mind once I get remote access set up for the databases <thethomaseffect> bugger <thethomaseffect> I expected php_safe_mode to give trouble but not database <infoturtle> it's because by default my server by default does not allow remote access to databases <infoturtle> I just coppe we could just do this on the blackknight server......... <infoturtle> back in 5, going to reboot into ubuntu <thethomaseffect> It's not that big a deal <thethomaseffect> if we can get the absolute path to the current website it'd be easy to just tie the domain to the new hosting <thethomaseffect> and use the absolute path to get at all the content <infoturtle> sounds like you know what your talking about <thethomaseffect> oh it's all simple <thethomaseffect> in theory :D <thethomaseffect> like Ken Thompson once said "Unix is simple, so simple it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity" <infoturtle> ha ha, I like that one <thethomaseffect> acually getting the domain off canonical and repointing it is the bit of work there <thethomaseffect> if i don't reply btw it's because i'm killing zombies in dead rising 2 :) <thethomaseffect> have you played minecraft yet btw? <infoturtle> ya, I brought it ages back, class game!! <infoturtle> huzzar, figured the stupid problem out, it dsen't like MySQL v 4.1.1, but v5 it seems to like <infoturtle> I'm thinking about using drupal on menown site, can anyone tell me if you can put pictures into the posts or can you only add attachments like on ubuntu-ie.org? <thethomaseffect> you can put in pics, afaik there's a full WYSIWYG editor included <thethomaseffect> linky me infoturtle! <infoturtle> I'm just reuploading it cause it needs a database and the one I used was one I use for something else, so I must reinstall with a new one #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-18 <airurando> afternoon all <airurando> remember the monthly IRC team meeting will be held this Wednesday at 8pm here. <mokmeister> hello! <moylan> hi <mokmeister> hi moylan, how're things? <moylan> getting by, yourself? <mokmeister> yeah, not so bad <moylan> looking forward to 11.04? <mokmeister> Yeah, have the beta running away (and crashing) on one of the pcs, I kinda like (ish) unity <mokmeister> I'm sticking with 10.04 on my main desktop for quite a while though, methinks! :D <moylan> haven't tried it yet. short on systems to test it on. anxious about unity as i don't like change for the sake of change. still on 10.04 on main system. <mokmeister> yeah, 10.04 is too good! :D <mokmeister> I like the side bar in unity, it's something I've been doing with gnome panels for a while, what with widescreens and all, it seems pointless taking up space on the bottom of your screen <moylan> i'm used to having a popup panel at the bottom. not a fan of the current fad of widescreens. <moylan> planning on going to the release party? <mokmeister> Nope, down in Limerick <mokmeister> will head along to the ubuntu hour and see what's going on methinks! <moylan> isn't there a ubuntu group down in limerick? thought there was. <mokmeister> Kinda agree with you on the wide screen thing, I do like a squarer panel meself <mokmeister> well, the ubuntu hour is planned for the 28th in the Absolut hotel <moylan> it's better for reading text. a portrait screen would be best for displaying a full page. but definitely taller than the widescreens. <mokmeister> hi res, big screens, you could have pages all lined up in widescreen! ;) <moylan> they used to make a screen that rotated 90' great for swapping between formats. <mokmeister> yeah, I vaguely remember something like that. <moylan> now it's just bigger and bigger screens. not sure that is progress. <mokmeister> I thought bigger was better.... ;) <moylan> but the bigger screens use more power. i'd be quite happy with a good 15' rather than getting a 19' wide screen just to see the same amount of lines in vim. <mokmeister> Ah well, sure a 40 inch lcd probably wouldn't use as much power as a 20 inch CRT, so I wouldn't be overly worried about that. <moylan> ah but a 15' lcd uses less power than a 17' lcd if chosen carefully. i prefer to use as little leccy as possible. <mokmeister> right, time for bed, g'nite <moylan> o/ #ubuntu-ie 2011-04-19 <airurando> afternoon all <syngindub> hey there <airurando> hi syngindub. <airurando> enjoying the good weather <syngindub> how are tricks <syngindub> indeed <syngindub> hope it continues for the w/e <airurando> things are good here and I also hope the weather holds for the weekend. <syngindub> auditors are gone..i'm happy :) <airurando> no matter what field of endeavour you are in the departure of auditors is always a good thing. <airurando> syngindub enjoy the post audit feeling. <airurando> anyone going to be here for the irc meeting tomorrow? <moylan> should be <airurando> moylan good stuff <syngindub> irc meeting ?? <airurando> syngindub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-04-20 <airurando> details there <airurando> monthly team IRC meeting to discuss any issues arising. <airurando> syngindub you are more than welcome to join in and add an item to the agenda if you'd like. <daxroc> Afternoon all <syngindub> thanks but not sure what i'd add :) i'm only a new comer around these parts <airurando> syngindub: no bother, well be finalising details of the natty release party at it <airurando> daxroc afternoon <syngindub> ok, talk to you later lads. im moff <syngindub> off <airurando> interesting LoCo Council meeting just ended in #ubuntu-meeting <czajkowski> thanks <airurando> hi czajkowski <infoturtle> what was talked about? <czajkowski> so we want to see if can get stuff put in the canonical shop for teams to buy at a discounted price <infoturtle> oooooooo, I'm mad for that mouse, never think to buy it tho <czajkowski> and we want to see if we can get a discount code for approved teams <czajkowski> so you can buy them a bit cheaper <airurando> I wanted to chip in on that meeting but it didn't feel right <czajkowski> airurando: always join in <czajkowski> everyone is welcome <czajkowski> or post to the mailing list <czajkowski> there is a thread on it <airurando> fast moving and I didn't feel my input related explicity <czajkowski> meh never worry about that <czajkowski> really <airurando> don't have the typing skills of you lot <airurando> just that I've been thinking on the shipit stutdown <czajkowski> it's only effecting NON approved teams though <airurando> something I agree with totally <airurando> ah yes <airurando> I think it could go further though <czajkowski> so wont effect ye guys <airurando> my feeling on where ubuntu is going <airurando> is that the shipment of CDs to LoCos should concentrate on LTS releases <czajkowski> yeah that is one point <airurando> It ubuntu is going through significant change <czajkowski> alright but many teams do install fests with these cds or
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