#ubuntu-community-team 2010-05-07 <jussi> morning all <jussi> I have good news! <jussi> ITS FRIDAY! :D <ddecator> HAPPY FRIDAY jussi ! <jussi> ddecator: thanks. its a good feeling :D <ddecator> jussi: especially good since i don't have any friday classes =) <jussi> ddecator: nice <jussi> ddecator: Ive had an extremely busy work week and Im looking forward to a relaxing weekend + a great UDS <ddecator> jussi: yah, i'm really looking forward to participating remotely in UDS <jussi> ddecator: Ill be there in person. <ddecator> jussi: mark me jealous <doctormo> jussi: Happy UK Election results day :-D <jussi> oh, its that too. same to you doctormo :D <doctormo> jussi: I'm happy because the Green party got a seat. Woot! <jussi> lol <jussi> Im a bit disappointed so far, as the Lib dems arent doing as well as they projected... <jussi> doctormo: do you know which party is the "others" that won one seat according to this page? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/election2010/results/ <doctormo> jussi: Mostly DUP, SNP and Plyde Cumry, one green. <jussi> doctormo: no, Im trying to work out who the seat went to... <jussi> look at the bottom of the list <doctormo> It means Indipendant <jussi> oh ok <dpm> good morning all <akgraner> dpm good morning <dpm> hey akgraner, how's it going? <akgraner> just the person I needed to talk to about translation stuff <dpm> akgraner, :) do you mind posting the question and me answering later? I need to prepare something before 9:00 (in 40 mins) <akgraner> I was hoping you could look over the UWN translations effort that seems to be stalled and advise <akgraner> it can wait weeks <akgraner> there is no hurry <akgraner> dpm, it's all good - we can discuss it after UDS :-) <dpm> akgraner, sure, thanks :) <czajkowski> Aloha <dholbach> good morning <dpm> morning dholbach, morning czajkowski <dholbach> hey dpm <czajkowski> dpm: hey there ,hows you?? <dpm> heya czajkowski, I'm fine, busy doing general catch up, preparing UDS sessions and this morning the plenary presentation on Launchpad Translations and better upstream integration in translations <czajkowski> busy so :) <akgraner> dpm, are there any plenary sessions open? <dpm> akgraner, what do you mean by open? <dpm> sorry, need to go on a call, bbl <akgraner> k <dpm> akgraner, (I can probably answer while we sort out this freaking skype). What I know from plenaries is that Jorge is scheduling them, but we lost quite a lot of plenary space because there is a lady doing a 1h one <akgraner> ahh ok - so just touchbase with jorge <akgraner> he ask me to do one but I wasn't sure if he scheduled it <akgraner> and we both got busy - you know how it goes <akgraner> was just sorting out my todo list <czajkowski> 1hr plenary <czajkowski> LORDIE <dpm> :) <doctormo> Lordie <Daviey> czajkowski: you called? <czajkowski> no... * dholbach hugs you all <akgraner> might be interesting - sounds like a lunchtime keynote <akgraner> dholbach, thanks <dpm> The things people tweet and dent about... <dpm> http://twitpic.com/1lmt3w <jussi> Im tired. <czajkowski> dpm: is that real... <dpm> czajkowski, course it is, next one is going to be Britney Spears :) * czajkowski pokes dpm * dpm hugs czajkowski ;) <popey> Shhhhh it's oooh so quiet! <akgraner> popey be bery bery quiet - they <nigelbabu> popey: lets make some noise! <akgraner> are hunting rabbits <nigelbabu> heya akgraner <akgraner> rabbit season <popey> wabbits! <akgraner> nigelbabu, hi <nigelbabu> akgraner: have be broken records with open week yet? <nigelbabu> we did with -release-par <nigelbabu> *party <akgraner> nah actually attendance it a bit down this release <nigelbabu> hm, thats strange :/ <akgraner> nah we didn't have as many people blogging and stuff about open week prior <nigelbabu> akgraner: we could consider advertising as part of release announcement or something, at least on our blogs <nigelbabu> have some nice graphics like "I'm going to Open Week" ;) <nigelbabu> a lot of folks picked up the announcement, if they were to pick up open week too, it would give us nice attention <akgraner> There are open week graphics and stuff <akgraner> and there is still good attendance - but we can do better next time <nigelbabu> I'll try to help with the publicity party :) <akgraner> :-) I don't think jcastro would disagree about the numbers part for this open week <nigelbabu> maybe we need to brainstom more on how to get attendance in classroom beyond contributors <akgraner> nigelbabu, Karmic release week - we had scheduled when people would blog <akgraner> and kept something on the planet almost daily about <nigelbabu> akgraner: you mean spam the planet about it every 6 hours? <nigelbabu> ;D <akgraner> hehe <qense> I remember Daniel posting a summary of the day's sessions during the OpenWeek. <akgraner> something like that but with various people around the community blogging <nigelbabu> that helps, because some people dont follow the planet because it has too much noise <nigelbabu> they follow individual blogs of community members <akgraner> nigelbabu, basically like 3 or 4 weeks before open week <nigelbabu> akgraner: ah, we'll plan better next time :) <akgraner> there is an open week meeting pep ralley thing in -meeting <nigelbabu> when? <akgraner> and people say I can blog on this day <akgraner> I will blog on that day <akgraner> so everyone doesn't blog about it on the same day <nigelbabu> oh, I missed that one then <akgraner> a controlled blogging campaign if you will to keep buzz about it <akgraner> I'll have to go back and look - this was like 7 + months ago or something <nigelbabu> akgraner: we'll just plan for the next cycle better :) <qense> akgraner: This is certainly something to discuss during the planned UDS sessions. I assume you're writing this all down for that, or are remembering it? <nigelbabu> there is a session for it at UDS right? <qense> two, iirc <qense> although there were calls to merge thsoe <nigelbabu> yes, I've subscribed <qense> akgraner: You could put it on the Blueprints' whiteboards. <akgraner> nigelbabu, yep jcastro and I already talked about next open week what we can do better kinda stuff :-) and now you all are making commitments to help get the word out <akgraner> :-) <akgraner> so yeah - that's what makes it beautiful - community collaboration for continually awesomeness <nigelbabu> akgraner: we have a UUD coming up, so we can plan for a trial run for plans then <akgraner> nigelbabu, qense I think and could be wrong - but with all the *ubuntu weeks we have - the campaign to promote those could almost be the same <qense> yeah <akgraner> we just change the name of the *ubuntu week <akgraner> and have a check list - which I think we started last time <akgraner> I'll have to look <qense> We should make sure the visual identity is right each time, though! Remember the dots! <akgraner> and we just keep improving and adjusting and adding to <akgraner> qense, *nods* <qense> It's good to document the processes so others can easily pick it up and continue with it if someone leaves or if they want to help. <nhandler> Good morning <qense> morning <akgraner> qense, yep - my "if I get hit by a bus" clause :-) <qense> exactly <akgraner> nhandler, hi <nhandler> Good morning akgraner <akgraner> I also think for some reason - this week - *everybody* was busier than they were last cycle at this time <akgraner> I could be wrong but it seems like it <qense> Yeah, everyone was really a lot busier the weeks before the release than last year. <akgraner> qense, which to me says - wow - community contribution has grown <jussi> we did get a high in #ubuntu - 2120 <qense> akgraner: It's good news indeed, but not so much for the OpenWeek. ;) <qense> Maybe we should consider a different time for the week? <qense> Some time when everyone's less busy? <akgraner> qense, I am not sure you would find a better week <akgraner> and now there has been 8 open weeks <qense> That's true and the week after the release is the peek of Ubuntu-interest... <qense> peak <akgraner> it is almost ingrained that it goes release week --> open week--> uds <qense> yeah <qense> We'll cope with it. <akgraner> lions and tigers and bears o'my <akgraner> :-) <akgraner> qense, the turn out isn't bad by any means <qense> I saw that, you've done a wonderful job at the week. I just think you deserve a greater audience. <akgraner> but yeah - adapt and overcome :-) <nigelbabu> akgraner: we're trying to combat the time problem with uud <nigelbabu> its going to be 24 hours (if we get instructors) <akgraner> *nods* <akgraner> nigelbabu, yeah I was following the conversations about it <nigelbabu> :) <akgraner> I know for me personally I have identified how to narrow my scope without dimensioning the quality of contribution going forward <akgraner> that will help me have time to produce quality and timely posts and "marketing" for events and stuff <akgraner> This week was a good reflection - of pain points in personal contributions and expectations and the effects on project participation <akgraner> not sure if any one else takes the start of each release for a self evaluation re contribution or not - I may be weird that way <qense> I reflect a bit, but not much. :) <qense> Lunch time! afk <akgraner> :-) <nhandler> I know this is slightly off topic for here, but if anyone has some money to spare, I am raising money for the American Cancer Society by participating in the Walk & Roll event in a week: http://identi.ca/notice/31202595 <nigelbabu> wish i had :/ <akgraner> nhandler, thank you for that! <akgraner> it's a great cause and efforts by them made better b/c people like are willing to give of their time and sweat equity! That's awesome that you are doing that.. <akgraner> dholbach, you're good with your session and don't need any helpers or anything do you? <akgraner> jcastro, you are good with both of yours right? :-) <jcastro> yeah. :D <jcastro> you might want to stick around for the last one if you can to get feedback <jcastro> doctormo, !!!! <jcastro> doctormo, I have been thinking about this PXE thing for a long time <nigelbabu> jcastro: need a little bit of your help <jcastro> ok <nigelbabu> jcastro: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/aTor4hFZXZ <dholbach> akgraner: I still need to prepare it ;-) <dholbach> akgraner: parts of it... I should be good though <akgraner> dholbach, :-P <Technoviking> Launchpad working for anyone ellse? <nigelbabu> Technoviking: which part? <nigelbabu> bugs are ok for me <Technoviking> working now, but slloooww:( <nigelbabu> im querying lp via api, wonder if Im breaking it <nigelbabu> Technoviking: lp is a bit slow due to maverick stuff, expected <nigelbabu> expected I think :/ <dpm> hey, good luck with the UOW talks dholbach! <dholbach> thanks <cjohnston> howdy <jcastro> qense: how's the weather over there? <jcastro> shorts? <popey> http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/37 <popey> not looking great * jcastro switches to proper F numbers <jcastro> what the hell, that's cold! <jcastro> tripit's forecast says it's like 10 degrees warmer <JanC> weather forecasts for next week show 6-13 Â°C and rain most days :-/ <JanC> for Brussels <JanC> on yr.no <JanC> accoring to the national weather forecast it will be somewhat warmer than 6 Â°c, but still cold & wet <JanC> only day without rain could be Monday... :-( <akgraner> :- D! FYI - Call for nominations for New Ubuntu Women Project Elected Leadership Committee is now open - http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/LeadershipElectionProcess - Good Luck to everyone! <Pendulum> at least hotel is inside? <Pendulum> err... sessions <qense> jcastro: might rain <qense> jcastro: but JanC is a better source for weather info :) <qense> Pendulum: yes, but Canonical saved money by not renting the roof. <Pendulum> heh <Pendulum> hmm... I am now essentially getting paid to play facebook games <qense> Pendulum: huh? What's your job? :P <qense> I wouldn't want to spend my days playing Farmville. <Pendulum> qense: it's my last day at my job and I have no work left to do. so i'm playing them because I'm bored :) <qense> Pendulum: What was your job and what's your new job then? ;( <qense> ;) <qense> By the way, is Daniel still holding on? He's already talking for more than an hour now, isn't he? <Pendulum> I was working in publishing and now it is nothing. Unless we count the fact that I keep seeming to pick up new Ubuntu stuff to do... <qense> Will you miss your job>? <Pendulum> yes and no. I quit so it's not like I'm being forced out. Just was time to move on and for health-related reasons makes sense to take some time off. <qense> ah <jcastro> Technoviking: when were you planning on opening the maverick forum again? <Technoviking> jcastro: I just did:). lol <Technoviking> before I saw your question <Technoviking> jcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476021 <jcastro> oh heh <jcastro> I was just going to say, it'd be awesome if it was open for UDS <jcastro> to give people a place to discuss stuff <Technoviking> I will link all the rooms to the irc web chat, for IRC newbies <jcastro> cooh <jcastro> I will point this out in my session today <jcastro> also <jcastro> in the lucid forum we ended up with tons of stickies <jcastro> I wonder if we can just aggregate the typical "+1" threads into 1 <Technoviking> sure <jcastro> so like, instead of one for the schedule, one for bugs, etc. <jcastro> I wonder if 23meg irc's lately <jcastro> I have not seen him around <Technoviking> I have not either, you can PM him on the forums <Technoviking> jcastro: are the room irc chanels open. wanted to test the web chat link <jcastro> they should be, he set them up a while back <jcastro> jussi: ^^ <Technoviking> work great <Technoviking> I don't if I will be on much next week, looks to be an 80 + hour work week:( <jcastro> :( <jcastro> Technoviking: you can probably cut out the uds identica accounts, I don't think anyone is using those anymore <Technoviking> I will try to remote attend session late afternoon your time <Technoviking> jcastro: ok, will do, I will remove them from the wiki also <jcastro> Just following #ubuntu should do the trick <qense> jcastro: Didn't Laura still list the microblogging accounts in her blog post? iirc they are still on the wiki. <jcastro> yeah but no one's using them <qense> well, the #ubuntu and #uds hashtags will dp <qense> I think it's easie anyway to let the people tweet and dent with their own accounts. <qense> But maybe trackspecific tags could be used. <jcastro> I think that just gets too complicated <jcastro> if we just tell people to do #uds we should be fine I think <qense> yeah, probably <qense> It's not that everyone will be tweeting every point, I suppose. <jcastro> then people will get all confused and we'll end up with #uds-community-maverick-open-week <qense> Leaving little space for useful stuff. <qense> jcastro: still drowning, or are things better now? <jcastro> no, I am doomed <jcastro> heh <Technoviking> how do you hide text as a comment in the wiki? <qense> Technoviking: # ? <jcastro> qense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu <qense> jcastro: We've already been having quite a large discussion on the Ayatana mailing list after I submitted some (bad? :P) mock-ups to the list. They were not good enough to be considered, we can say, but they did kickstart the discussion. <qense> jcastro: And now MPT is starting to take part in the discussions. <qense> jcastro: Curious how upstream will react to this. I think hyperair will be happier with this than with AppInd. ;) <jcastro> yeah <jcastro> I was waiting for him to show up on irc <qense> he's on #ayatana atm <jcastro> I like the album art in there <qense> yeah, that would be neat <qense> jcastro: I think we should make it more visible to the community they can contribute to this. A lot of people react enthusiastically to Ubuntu's new desktop, but we should tell them they can help making that New Desktop. We had such a thing a bit at the start of our effort to get AppInd support, but it faded away a bit after the two contractors were hired. * jcastro nods <Technoviking> later, work meeting for awhile <qense> bye Technoviking <jcastro> cya! <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day <jcastro> \o/ <qense> dholbach: bye! <dholbach> have a great WE <dholbach> and see some of you in Brussels <dholbach> HUGS <qense> see you Monday! <qense> The ESA did say today that the vulcano at Iceland increased in activity. Would be a shame if it started causing trouble again Sunday or so. <jcastro> bye dholbach! <jcastro> I would be doomed if I got stuck in belgium <qense> Wasn't there a guy that once swam the Atlantic Ocean? Hint... <qense> Ah, my first night is overbooked, need to be in a different hotel then. <jcastro> yeah I think that's happening to a bunch of people <qense> Too much attendees? :) <qense> I hope the Summit-pains are now over. <qense> hello cjohnston! <cjohnston|cell> Hey w <cjohnston|cell> qense: <czajkowski> aloha <cjohnston|cell> Fwiw I hate weddings <qense> Even your own? <cjohnston|cell> Wouldn't know <cjohnston|cell> Not married <czajkowski> cjohnston|cell: ah ok didn't know that you refer to her as mrs at times <cjohnston|cell> It's easier czajkowski <cjohnston|cell> 2 kids a house a business. Might as well be <czajkowski> ok :) <nigelbabu> czajkowski: congrats on making it to the board :) <qense> czajkowski: yay for you! <czajkowski> nigelbabu: qense Thank you :) <nigelbabu> :) <czajkowski> found out via irc frm pleia2 in channel. was rather shocked :) <maco> i found out that way too <qense> maco: You too a member? <maco> for the americas board <qense> I suspected already you wouldn't be doing the EMEA ;) <qense> congratulations to both of you! <maco> im sure weirder things happen <maco> thanks :) <nigelbabu> maco: lol wierder? :D <maco> nigelbabu: than an american on the european board. im sure there've been odder things occurring <czajkowski> there is now an Ubuntu women team member on all of the boards ! <nigelbabu> maco: when you get to cc or tb you'll still be saying that :D <maco> 3 on the americas board <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> not sure there was ever one on EMEA before .... <qense> I've got the feeling that feminism and such doesn't live as much in Europe as it does it the US. <nigelbabu> asia has elky since long i guess <czajkowski> qense: what do you mean? <qense> czajkowski: I hear less from European feminism than from American. <nigelbabu> ws 34 <nigelbabu> grr <czajkowski> qense: oh true. <czajkowski> and also less of the word feminism as well <qense> Yeah, people don't seem to really like the word anymore, they still associate it with the kind of people that became lesbian out of principle because all men were bad. <nigelbabu> whoa! <qense> Which is a wrong association, but it does happen. <qense> I mean, not everyone is radical. <qense> nigelbabu: I'm talking about the sixties and the seventies in the Netherlands here. <qense> A radical kind sure. <qense> radical time* <qense> not kind <nigelbabu> qense: too long back, 20 years before I was born (at least) <czajkowski> hmm I find this topic wil usually offend someone, so I'll stay quiet, and best discussed over a pint <qense> Yeah, it's easy to offend people when a subject lies dear to them. <czajkowski> http://is.gd/bYpg0 <czajkowski> good article <czajkowski> qense: I find some folks are too blinded by it, as you said different in the EU <qense> There is more in the world of feminism than 'dungarees feminism' as the radical kind is called here. <qense> Your work is very valuable, but far from being radical or intrusive. <AlanBell> qense: did you miss the spice girls? <qense> AlanBell: Huh? <AlanBell> just reading back on the lack of visible european feminists, but actually I agree with czajkowski this is a conversation that requires a pint to go with it <maco> oh the things i see with my (girl|girls) highlight rule <AlanBell> maco surely not odder than the things I see with my chicken highlight! <maco> you probably see a lot of what people have for dinner <maco> i see trolls, spice girls apparently, hot girl links, and parenting <czajkowski> AlanBell: pint it is so <AlanBell> I have a picture somewhere of czajkowski drinking a very small pint <JFo> that is rare, they are usually very large pints <czajkowski> baby guinness :D * AlanBell thinks someone was being a bad influence on others at the time <czajkowski> grin <AlanBell> ah, there it is <AlanBell> http://twitpic.com/1lueh9 <AlanBell> blackberry camera isn't very good in the dark <czajkowski> nyommy is what they are <AlanBell> they did look nice, what were they? Baileys on top presumably <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> tia maria on the bottom or Kalula <cjohnston> its hot as .... outside... <cjohnston> uggh <qense> I'm off, good night everyone! <czajkowski> http://image22.webshots.com/23/2/52/31/366625231QmaiKo_ph.jpg if the bartender does it properly <AlanBell> nice <akgraner> jcastro, just sent you the summary of Feedback session <jcastro> <3 <JanC> "feminism" (as we know it) started in Europe, and often time helps to get over the extremes <JanC> OTOH, feminism has existed for ages in some form or another... ;) <JanC> and there is no lack of visible feminists in Belgium at least <Technoviking> I really hate Oracle <czajkowski> oh? want to narrow the reason down a bit <Technoviking> Doing backup on a Oracle system, rman make my brain hurt:) <czajkowski> awww tis friday :) <Technoviking> czajkowski: yeah, but I will be back at work tomorrow working on this <Technoviking> let me know if anyone wants anything else added to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476021 <czajkowski> nn folks #ubuntu-community-team 2010-05-08 <czajkowski> aloha <doctormo> hello czajkowski, when do you fly? (do you?) <czajkowski> tomorrow <czajkowski> 6:20am <jussi> good morning all! <czajkowski> jussi: howdy <jussi> hiya czajkowski, excited to be leaving soon? <jussi> czajkowski: dont forget my tinwhistle! <czajkowski> tomorrow morning <czajkowski> 90 min flight <czajkowski> jussi: tin whistle is packed my dear <jussi> excellent :D <doctormo> I leave today at 7:30pm, get there for 11am <nigelb> I guess a lot of folks are in air or bound to airport today <AlanBell> tomorrow for me <AlanBell> but going on the train <nigelb> AlanBell: wow! * nigelb <3 trains <nigelb> AlanBell: I'm so so jealous :D <AlanBell> going through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel <nigelb> brbr <nigelb> AlanBell: how long is the ride? <Pendulum> AlanBell: I'm jealous you're getting to train. I really liked the Eurostar the time I took it <nigelb> Pendulum: free at last huh? <AlanBell> nigelb: no idea, I think we have plans for a podcast recording to pass the time <nigelb> AlanBell: wow, rocking :) * nigelb really needs to get down and renew passport <AlanBell> Pendulum: planes are good too <AlanBell> although long flights are hard work <nigelb> I dnno, there is something about trains that I love <Pendulum> they are, but given the choice I'd go with the Eurostar (admittedly I also ended up in first class on a cheap ticket because there are only 2 wheelchair spots on the train and the other was already booked) <AlanBell> I hope you get well looked after on the plane <AlanBell> who are you flying with? <Pendulum> Delta <nigelb> AlanBell: you, popey, and daviey? <Pendulum> which could be okay or could be horrible <Pendulum> mostly annoyed because I really wanted to sleep in this morning as I don't sleep on flights, and instead my body decided that this was late enough and I've not gotten loads of sleep :( <nigelb> what time is the flight? <Pendulum> 7PM tonight <nigelb> how much of a TZ difference do you land up in? <AlanBell> I think someone has broken https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/Attendees <nigelb> its displaying okay for me so far <AlanBell> there is a second arrivals and departure section <AlanBell> with different data <nigelb> ouch <Pendulum> ugh, transatlantic flights are expected to run 90-120 minutes late today due to ash :( <Pendulum> and that's not "late" as in leave late, but "late" as in be that much longer <AlanBell> you will still be there well before me <nigelb> oh, slower <Pendulum> yes, but it means potentially 10.5 hours in flight instead of 8.5 <Pendulum> yeah, they're having to reroute around it, I guess <Pendulum> and I'm always first on and last off so figure I could be on a plane for close to 12 hours <AlanBell> they have to divert south from the great circle route to go round it <nigelb> well, at least better than being grounded at least <Pendulum> yeah. i'm glad i was already planning on taking loads of pain medication <jussi> Pendulum: make sure you have your prescriptions with you * nigelb was just about to say that <nigelb> jussi: you're flying or taking a train? <jussi> flying <jussi> tomorrow <Pendulum> jussi: I know. And I never remove from the prescription bottles (which also have it written on it) as well <jussi> ahh, yeah <nigelb> jussi: btw, I entered your channel out of curiousity ;) No big deal * jussi almost got done for drug running with morphine... <Pendulum> I don't have morphine :( <jussi> nigelb: i was asking how you found it <nigelb> jussi: well, I have this script that does a whois on whoever PM's me <jussi> yes... but I have +i set... ? <nigelb> yeah, it wasn't you :p <czajkowski> nigelb slightly stalkerish <jussi> oh, mind telling me who so I can slap them into +i? :P <nigelb> czajkowski: it was entirely innocent. someone told me its a nice script to have <jussi> mind, I can guess who... <Pendulum> but I know one of my meds isn't available in europe at all (and if they confiscate it, I'm screwed since we're in Belgium and not Holland since the non-synthetic version of the same chemical is cannabis ;-) ) <nigelb> jussi: you should be able to guess whom I might PM on *that* list ;) <qense> Pendulum: What's the med? <czajkowski> nigelb ah tis <Pendulum> qense: marinol. it's a synthetic THC <nigelb> czajkowski: like some random person pm's you and you want to associate with what the heck he/she is talking about <qense> You could quickly jump the border and fetch some. :) <qense> Although there have been crack-downs on drug tourism lately, tourists cause almost all problems. <Pendulum> qense: I am aware that if I absolutely had to I could. Just would be a PITA. <qense> Pendulum: It would be odd if they'd confiscate it. Do you have papers for them? * nigelb had to google for PITA <qense> Pita bread! <nigelb> jussi: sorry I stalked your channel though :/ <czajkowski> nigelb i get a lot of random pm being freenode staffer <nigelb> czajkowski: yeah, I get a lot during classroom sessions or during patch day <Pendulum> qense: yeah. so I think I should be okay. just a little paranoid because it's the main thing I have to manage pain. <qense> I had to take a Schengen Declaration with me for my medication when I went to Greece (inside Schengen-area), but I was never asked to show it. <Pendulum> yeah, I've never actually been questioned on meds anywhere <czajkowski> back later <nigelb> Pendulum: they'll most probably not ask you <jussi> nigelb: no problems, not much happens there, just was curious how you came acoss it. <Pendulum> I just get paranoid because of how bad it would be if they did decide it wasn't acceptable <nigelb> jussi: hehe, btw a lot of people have the ##<nick> channel <jussi> yup * nigelb doesn't <nigelb> too many channels, irssi doesn't have enough space until end of UDS <Pendulum> heh <qense> I'm already in 15 channels on Freenode and in 7 on GIMPNet and the UDS hasn't even started yet. <nigelb> oh grr, when I /whois my other nick, I can't see what channels its on <nigelb> well, at least the +i works great :D <nigelb> AlanBell: bah, its only 2 hours <Pendulum> I suspect UDS is going to be the first time I'll really ever wish I ran irssi in a screen <nigelb> Pendulum: you don't run it off a server? <Pendulum> nigelb: nope <nigelb> Pendulum: screen is mostly useful when its running on a server and you keep connecting to the same session <nigelb> when its only on your laptop, not really that useful, you can always open another terminal, not possible on a server though <Pendulum> I know. This is why I don't run screen <nigelb> Pendulum: chris offered me a user on his vps to run irssi :) <Pendulum> I could probably set it up on a friend's server, but I've not asked if he'd be cool with my setting it up on it, and he hasn't offered and it's too late to ask now :) <nigelb> Pendulum: you can ask a lot of folks around, they'd be happy to set it up for you :) <jussi> channels.... hrm, Im in like... errr... 70ish? * nigelb bows <nigelb> jussi: ever used putty? <nigelb> (the ssh thingy) <jussi> oh, hang on,its more like 110... <jussi> nigelb: yes... <nigelb> jussi: can I PM, I need help with that <jussi> nigelb: Im quite busy at the moment, do they not have a support channel? <nigelb> jussi: no clue <jussi> /msg alis help <jussi> nigelb: ^^^^ <nigelb> ok <nigelbabu> yaay!, it works <nigelbabu> I fianlly managed to ssh into my irssi session <AlanBell> Pendulum: you can run screen on one of my servers if you like <qense> Guys, you did all notice ubuntulog is now idling in this channel as well? * jussi changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Welcome to the Community Team || ROCK THIS: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-community.html - DONE Makes Bacon a Happy Boy || This Channel is logged || <jussi> qense: i do beleive it was asked to come in. <qense> I did <qense> With Jono's approval, of course. <jussi> qense: ok, please make sure the channel topic gets updated if you do that in any other channels. we have a legal oblgation to notify people on join that they are being logged. <qense> jussi: I didn't know that, thank you for doing it. <qense> I hope the people idling yesterday won't sue. <jussi> and let me know if you see any cahnnels that are logged without an appropriate topic or entry message <jussi> qense: :D <qense> jussi: Will do, thank you for pointing me at it! <qense> Dammit! More airspace troubles because of ash. <qense> But the pictures at Iceland! They look so awesome. <qense> I mean, look at this: <http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article1377447.ece/Vliegverkeer_ondervindt_weer_hinder_van_aswolk> <qense> Amsterdam Airport said that travellers to North-America and South-Europe should expect delays and even cancellations. <qense> (_maybe_ even cancellations) <Pendulum> yeah, i'm getting nervous <JanC> looking at cloud maps it looks like Amsterdam, Brussels & London airports are safe for now, I'm not so sure about Paris (but I'm not a meteorologist ;) ) <Pendulum> I can't decide whether I wish my flight was earlier or later <JanC> clouds are blowing NE to SW over Belgium currently, while blowing the other way over Spain & (part of) France <JanC> and currently airports are closing in teh north of Portugal & Spain and south of France... <qense> yes <Pendulum> nigelbabu: ^^ do you want to say what you just told me? <nigelbabu> well, someone had their chicago -> brussels flight cancelled * nigelbabu goes to hunt for scroll back in -devel <qense> The ash came back just a bit too early. <qense> I'm happy I'm going by train and I've already got my ticket; no ash troubles for me. <Pendulum> I wish it would hold until Monday <Pendulum> I don't really care if I get stuck *in* Brussels <nigelbabu> scott ritchie i suppose (YoKoZar) <JanC> qense: unless it's a steam train ;) <qense> JanC: It is the NS after all, who knows. ;) <Pendulum> oh dear, if your'e right, then that's a whole bunch of people <Pendulum> (I count 12 people on that flight according to the wiki) <nigelbabu> Pendulum: he rescheudled to paris and then train to brussels ;) <qense> aw <nigelbabu> ouch, 12 people <Pendulum> hopefully the rest can, too. I know at least one is probably at the airport already for flight to Chicago <JanC> nigelbabu: there are no assh problems in Brussels for the moment, but maybe his plane got stuck in Spain or Portugal or such... <nigelbabu> JanC: dunno, I just heard in -devel when trying to catch who pinged me <JanC> nigelbabu: I know, read what he told <nigelbabu> JanC: so, all those people will be affected right? <Pendulum> huh, according to the website for the airline, the flight is still happening <JanC> I guess the airline companies will try to reschedule them somehow <Pendulum> oh, wait, I take that back <Pendulum> it's cancelled <JanC> Pendulum: any reason given? <Pendulum> nope <Pendulum> just says cancelled <Pendulum> and it's not until this afternoon <JanC> <paranoid-mode>Microsoft offered them some money?</paranoid-mode> <Pendulum> (like the flight wasn't even supposed to depart Chicago for another 7 hours) <nigelbabu> JanC: lol <JanC> Pendulum: sounds like thay know their plane is stuck somewhere and won't be in Chicago in time for the flight <Pendulum> that's what I'm hoping <Pendulum> frustrating that this is a saturday so probably can't reach travel agent :-/ <JanC> Pendulum: let's hope your plane doesn't get stuck âº <qense> As long as the air space stays clear for tomorrow. <JanC> I expect no problems for Brussels airspace <nigelbabu> akgraner is supposed to be on that flight, I hope she knows :/ <JanC> based on the direction of the wind <Pendulum> okay, just talked to my airline and they currently don't have any plans <Pendulum> (to cancel) <Pendulum> sadly final decision will be after I'll need to have headed to the airport, but we'll see <qense> Someone just twittered he left Salt Lake City Airport. <JanC> heh, Paul Sladen is coming by bike + ferry boat? âº <nigelbabu> JanC: yeah, rocking itenary <nigelbabu> JanC: nick barcet is better <nigelbabu> entirely on bike :) <JanC> nigelbabu: taht's somewhat impossible from the UK ;) <JanC> unless you rent a "water bike" to cross the channel :P <nigelbabu> JanC: or send it via train? <JanC> well, then it's not "entirely by bike" <nigelbabu> hehe :) <JanC> and biking through the Channel Tunnel is not allowed ;) <nigelbabu> haha <nigelbabu> unless you happen to bribe emergency personnel on both eds <Pendulum> I wish I had an earlier flight so that I didn't have all this wait time now! <Pendulum> I think I'm seriously going to go to the airport waaaay early just so I'm not in my flat <nigelbabu> Pendulum: :) <qense> JanC: Were you planning on attending or not? I keep forgetting. If so, by car or by train? <JanC> qense: I'll be there on mon-tue-wed & fri <qense> You can probably cisneroselizabeth@example.net. :) <qense> Handy <nigelbabu> lucky <nigelbabu> I wish it were in asia for once <JanC> and by car, but I sleep at my uncle & aunt's place on mon-tue & tue-wed <qense> nigelbabu: In your house! <nigelbabu> qense: haha <JanC> qense: it's a bit too far to sleep at home, especially as the first 3 days are workdays in .be & the traffic around Brussels is killing then âº <qense> How much rooms do you have? <nigelbabu> well at least it will be extremely touristy <qense> JanC: Belgiums isn't Luxembourg. <JanC> ? <qense> It's larger <qense> :) <JanC> right, but the main issue is the traffic around Brussels during peak hours <qense> Who doesn't hate rush hour. <cjohnston> o/ <JanC> it might take 2h to travel 50km or so, in case of bad luck ;) <qense> cjohnston! You're still here! <cjohnston> where else would i be <qense> Half the people are flying already. <qense> (Or stuck at the airport ) <JanC> people who are used to going to work in brussels told me I should drive to Brussels before 6am :-/ <qense> omg <cjohnston> i dont leave till tomorrow <cjohnston> have a wedding im in tonight <qense> JanC: You can merge the LP account 'janc-lugwv' into your own, did you know that? <JanC> qense: huh? <qense> I was looking for you on Launchpad and saw there were two Jan Claeyses <qense> One as janc-lugwv <qense> was <JanC> I don't even know where that one comes from... <qense> JanC: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge <qense> JanC: translation import, according to LP <JanC> ow, that's possible, maybe <JanC> for some translations I made *ages* ago <JanC> and not in Ubuntu <qense> claim the karma! <nigelbabu> upstream perhaps <JanC> probably my libgtkspell translation <JanC> ugh, and I don't own that mail address anymore <qense> aw <akgraner> hi all <akgraner> Can get to Chicago o'hara - but on standby for flight tomorrow <nigelbabu> akgraner: good to know <nigelbabu> we heard your flight got cancelled <akgraner> found about an hour ago - flight to London, Paris, Frankfurt, Brussels - closed - UbuAsh <nigelbabu> ugh! <maco> so basically only the europeans who go by train are making it <maco> oh, and sladen <maco> who i believe is going by ferry <maco> (just because he likes to travel in as convoluted ways as possible) <nigelbabu> dont tell me're all gling to remotely attend frm airports <akgraner> the one today did - but was able to get last seat standby for a flight out tomorrow from 0'hara providing ash clears <Pendulum> Delta seems to still be running flights <nigelbabu> maco: and the indians :D <bencrisford_> maco: ferries are the best :D * bencrisford_ dont like flying <Pendulum> (at least from NYC as I'm not cancelled yet) <nigelbabu> vish is going to make it :) <maco> bencrisford_: sladen lives on a boat, so if it involves using somethng less-common than a plane or train, he's probably going for it <nigelbabu> maco: lives on a boat! whoa! <maco> like..i dont know... ferry to one place, bicycle a few towns over on his brompton... then grab an eagle's talons and fly the rest of the way? <nigelbabu> hahaha <bencrisford_> haha <nigelbabu> eagle's talon lol <bencrisford_> ferries aren't that odd, I have got a ferry to france more times than I can recall <bencrisford_> even to spain once <bencrisford_> :) <akgraner> Pendulum, I talked to the airline was told Delta cancelled theirs as well <akgraner> I'm at Charlotte now <maco> i took one from palermo to napoli once. wow that was just /weird/ --- first class = a room full of recliners that dont really recline very far so sleeping is tough and theres no leg room <maco> 2nd class has actual rooms O_o ??? <akgraner> might want to actually call them <Pendulum> akgraner: yeah, I think I will. I wonder if it's because it's from NYC and not Chicago? <nigelbabu> italy? <akgraner> Pendulum, American tried to get me on another airline <maco> nigelbabu: yes <nigelbabu> maco: wow <akgraner> are you flying direct? <Pendulum> yeah <nigelbabu> maco: are you sure you didn't confuse 1st and 2nd class :D <maco> also, i didnt think. i only took one book with me, and it was half-read when i left. so by the time we reached italy ... or um actually i think before the plane left the US... i finished <maco> nigelbabu: yes <bencrisford_> :P <maco> (normally i just buy more books while i'm travelling. going to a country where i dont know the language, that doesnt work so great) <nigelbabu> maco: ick, train sounds much better <bencrisford_> whoa, i'd forgotten how slow usb 1.0 was <Pendulum> akgraner: my flight is still okay <akgraner> Pendulum, sweet! <Pendulum> I wonder if flights from NYC use a more southernly route anyway or something <Pendulum> so it might be easier to reroute than things from chicago <akgraner> Pendulum, they tried to route us through JFK today but we were told those flights were cancelled as well :-( <akgraner> I hope you are able to get out <Pendulum> huh, I did just talk to Delta who said they were fine (although overbooked) <JanC> heh, Brussels airport is still open with almost no cancelled flights according to latest news? <Pendulum> also my flight doesn't come from Europe, so dunno if that makes a difference <czajkowski> aloha <akgraner> czajkowski, hey <JanC> they said there were some cancelled flights in Charleroi (aka Brussels South Airport) <akgraner> are you going to make it in? <nigelbabu> czajkowski: already in brussels? <akgraner> JanC, yeah we were told Brussels was closed for today <Pendulum> akgraner: the airport is definitely still open <Pendulum> (in Brussels) <JanC> akgraner: Brussels airport is definitely *not* closed <JanC> unless that happened during the last minutes somehow âº <akgraner> Pendulum, they were telling us for arriving flights after 5pm today <akgraner> so not sure what info all these crazy airlines are getting <akgraner> looks like all information would be the same - but.. :-( <czajkowski> ireland flights are closed to spain and canaries <czajkowski> so far I've been told to go to the airport <czajkowski> but this *may* change <Pendulum> yeah, I'm still getting told to go to the airport <Pendulum> akgraner: so where are you? <akgraner> Pendulum, Charlotte getting ready to head to 0'hara <Pendulum> ah <Pendulum> from what I've been reading it doesn't even make sense that Belgium would be considering closing airspace :-/ <akgraner> in Chicago - then I'm booked on a flight tomorrow arrive Mon morning to Brussels <akgraner> idk - that's just what the airline told me I arrived today <Pendulum> it's also possible that no one really knows what's going on so they're saying what they think is going on rather than what they know for sure ;-) <akgraner> *nods* <czajkowski> Pendulum: the cloud is over 1000KM long and is spreading <czajkowski> so it's depending on the flight path and winds is the issue <maco> akgraner: its after 5pm there... <akgraner> maco flight leaving US after 5pm <czajkowski> aye it's 5:26 here <czajkowski> and they're an hr ahead <Pendulum> huh, my flight is at 7:05 tonight <JanC> 08:00 Chicago O'Hare <JanC> American Airlines AA088 <JanC> Scheduled 08:00 <JanC> so apparently the airlines didn't officially cancel that flight yet at the arriving airport? <maco> akgraner: oh <JanC> czajkowski: meaning planes have to take a northern route over iceland instead of a more southern route? <czajkowski> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1273316351.png <akgraner> JanC, it's cancelled :-) <JanC> akgraner: it was supposed to be cancelled hours ago, so I wonder why they didn't inform the airport authorities in Brussels then... <akgraner> JanC they cancelled it at 7:30am <Pendulum> they need to bring back ocean liners <nigelbabu> hahahah <jussi> lol <czajkowski> jussi: where you now? <jussi> czajkowski: helsinki <jussi> I leave tomorrow <czajkowski> jussi: flight ok? <jussi> czajkowski: haent looked.. <jussi> I scared.. <nigelbabu> jussi: do you have a train option? <nigelbabu> Just in Case (tm) <jussi> nigelbabu: not really <jussi> ferry + train. <jussi> similar to those in ireland. <JanC> Pendulum: if you have 3-4 weeks the time, yes ;) <nigelbabu> jussi: well, much better than nothing <Pendulum> JanC: apparently it only takes 5 days for the Queen Mary 2 <Pendulum> hmm... eurocontrol's twitter says Brussels airport will be open tomorrow morning <JanC> it's open all the time <JanC> the problem seems to be how to fly around the ash clouds ;) <Pendulum> well, specifically, that it will be open at least for flights out <czajkowski> it is brussels international or the other one ? <czajkowski> and wtf is gwibber broken <akgraner> czajkowski, not having troubles with it here <czajkowski> only on this lucid machine <czajkowski> it wont shagging launch <JanC> I think only RyanAir and such fly on Charleroi <czajkowski> and when it eventualy does it's all greyed out <czajkowski> grrrr <czajkowski> JanC: ah ok <JanC> and some other cheap companies & charter flights arrive in Bierset (LiÃ¨ge), Ostend or Antwerp <czajkowski> sitting in the back garden in the sun, heavenly <JanC> heh <JanC> czajkowski: expect 10 Â°C here :P <czajkowski> mutters <JanC> and rain almost all week <JanC> I guess that comes with the "no ash clouds here" <Pendulum> heh <czajkowski> ok plan B) relocate UDS to Ireland and flights can get here and there is no rain <Pendulum> czajkowski: transatlantic flights can't <czajkowski> Pendulum: :( <Pendulum> would be worse than Brussels for those of us coming from the US, in fact <Pendulum> Greece, maybe <czajkowski> nah too many riots there <Pendulum> true <Pendulum> was just thinking locations with less ash issues <jussi> Australia! <jussi> *G* <Pendulum> :) <JanC> well, Finland would be fine too ;) <JanC> http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/flightinfo/arrivals/ for those who want to monitor arrivals <bencrisford_> I don't get why all you US peeps are getting so worked up :P, just swim :) <bencrisford_> I'm gonna go eat something, hope you get all your travel problems sorted :) <Pendulum> thanks <doctormo> Everyone excited <czajkowski> ok pleia2 just tweeted she's boarding <czajkowski> itnet7 is on im and has been told his flight is off till MONDAY <doctormo> you mean dented ;-) <czajkowski> doctormo: no I mean what I said. she tweeted. <doctormo> grumpy pants <czajkowski> doctormo: no, just don't correct me when you'r the one who is wrong :) <Pendulum> czajkowski: he was originally on the same flight as Amber, it looks like. So I wonder if that's when they were first able to book him in next <doctormo> I was wrong <Pendulum> doctormo: we're all worried about not actually making it... it dampens the excitement <pleia2> yeah hopefully i wont get stuck in chicago :) <czajkowski> pleia2: *hugs* <Pendulum> pleia2: did you call to check? <czajkowski> doctormo: that didn't kill you now did it :) <pleia2> hugs :) <doctormo> I'm going to Gwibber my hug, hang on <doctormo> there we go <pleia2> Pen: this is a chicago/brussels flight, wont know unti <pleia2> l chcago :/ <Pendulum> pleia2: you couldn't call the airline and ask? <doctormo> Funny I asked specifically for a flight through Heathrow instead of New York <pleia2> its still on as of now <czajkowski> anyone heard from cjohnston <Pendulum> czajkowski: he's at a wedding today <Pendulum> pleia2: okay, so I'm not the only one still getting told their flight is on! <czajkowski> hows his flight looking? <Pendulum> he doesn't fly out until tomorrow <Pendulum> so probably okay for now <JanC> czajkowski: heh, isn't pleia2 flying over Chicago too? <Pendulum> JanC: she's got a connection there <Pendulum> apparently it's that they're greatly limiting flights because of the rerouting that needs to happen <JanC> yeah, I know see her flight number is listed twice in the arrivals <JanC> I now * <jussi> my flight appeas to be ok <JanC> Pendulum: right, so there are traffic jams on the northern fly-route? ;) <jussi> I just checked in <Pendulum> JanC: southern <Pendulum> they can't fly up because the ash is too dense <Pendulum> err.. fly north <JanC> heh, north of Iceland there is no ash <Pendulum> true <JanC> maybe they can fly on some heights in the southern routes too <czajkowski> DR. WHO!!! <JanC> anyway, traffic jams in the air sounds funny âº <Pendulum> one of those times when it's good we don't have our flying cars or jetpacks? <JanC> Pendulum: I doubt those would have any issue, ULM planes and the like never stopped flying either <doctormo> czajkowski: Aye, getting now. <Pendulum> doctormo: so where are you now? <doctormo> Pendulum: Er, Boston. <pleia2> boarding, wish me luck :) <Pendulum> pleia2: will keep fingers and such crossed for you! <doctormo> pleia2: *hug* have a good trip <Pendulum> doctormo: ah. you were talking as if you'd flown and I was getting confused :) <doctormo> Pendulum: No, just checked, looks like my flight is canceled <doctormo> Of course no information from anyone. <Pendulum> doctormo: :( <czajkowski> doctormo: feck <czajkowski> doctormo: when were you due to fly? <doctormo> 7:15pm <Pendulum> doctormo: what airline? <doctormo> AA <doctormo> (this is why I always fly Virgin) <doctormo> flight 108 <Pendulum> anyone else notice that so far the flights we know are canceled are AA? <czajkowski> doctormo: I don;t think airlines matter in this case <doctormo> czajkowski: This is my first attempt at flying with AA, they're not impressing me. <Pendulum> either the rest of us are about to get massively screwed over, or AA is getting bumped way down the priority list when it comes to what's being allowed to fly <czajkowski> I don't think it's airline related it's the same flight plan <doctormo> I actually have no idea what I'm supposed to do. <czajkowski> can ye mail your travel agents? <Pendulum> doctormo: call the airline <czajkowski> the advice over here is call your airline <czajkowski> as that's who's dealing with it <JanC> czajkowski: can't you do some celtic rain dance so that the ash gets rained down into the ocean? ;-) <czajkowski> eh we have sunshine here, it's an odd one . <czajkowski> when we had the rain all our airports were closed. <JanC> czajkowski: if it would rain in Ireland and/or Iceland, that would help to literally "clear the air" <JanC> well supposed the ash clouds are below the rain clouds of course âº <doctormo> Airline can't get me on a flight until Monday evening <doctormo> To get into Brusseles tuesday. Bleh, horrid <jussi> doctormo: aww, that sucks! <doctormo> jussi: Sucks is a very light word for what it is <jussi> doctormo: :/ <Pendulum> my flight is still supposed to be on <Pendulum> i'm leaving in the next 30 minutes <Pendulum>
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