#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-03
<mattis> It's possible to develop applets for the budgie panels, with example code for C/Vala/Python
<mattis> Is it possible to develop applets for the Raven sidebar in a similar manner?
<mattis> Or does this require recompiling all of Raven/etc
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-04
<jayze> so I had a quick question. I am using gnome now, Notice that I don't really like how system resource dominant it is. I don't really want to reinstall however I would like to try budgie out as it is setup from this distro spin. Is there a way to do that by just installing some packages?
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-06
<neothenoone> Hi
<neothenoone> Guys .. I installed Ubuntu Budgie today and it works great
<neothenoone> but i found a weird issue when connecting my ps4 controller over bluetooth
<neothenoone> when i connect it screen rotates 180
<neothenoone> anyone have this same issue
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-11
<paulnoise> Hi all, I'm trying to install some programs, I installed Convos from the snap store but i cannot find it in the applications menu. does anyone have any ideas?
<paulnoise> sudo snap list shows: convos 0.99.34 4 jhthorsen -
<paulnoise> I tried google, but was unable to find anything of help sadly
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-14
<bishop> i have just tried setting up budgie remix but mi cant getb pass the start up mpage because i cant seem to find the seetings to get  my network connection working.....i am blind practically.....tried everything  including help with no success
<bishop> frustrating....
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-15
<zxzx> hello there
<zxzx> budgee seems promising
<v3n0m> hi
<v3n0m> i got a problem
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-17
<Ralphy> Howdy all
<Ralphy> I just came in to say THANK YOU for Ubuntu Budgie
<Ralphy> I will be donating to show appreciation in a more tangible way between
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-19
<Rania> hi adsworth!
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-21
<mpmc> O.O - OK so I added a cputemp to the top bar. Now I see the "budgie panel" in plank, it wasn't there before!
<cdw3> Is there a way to add scripts and apps I develop to my launcher?
<cdw3> I'm new to the Budgie desktop.
<fossfreedom> mpmc, what distro version - 16.04 or 17.04?  logoff - logon.  This is something I'm aware of that was fixed in 17.10 but I need to find sometime to backport to 16.04/17.04
<mpmc> fossfreedom: "$ cat /etc/issue -> Ubuntu 17.10"
<fossfreedom> huh? ok something else - picture?
<mpmc> fossfreedom: Also for some reason I'm now getting a grub menu, but it's showing strings for 16.04.
<fossfreedom> one thing at a time
<mpmc> fossfreedom: Sorry, :p https://i.imgur.com/E7EmtAP.jpg
<fossfreedom> when does "budgie panel" appear?
<mpmc> After I modified the panel, it disappears if I log out.
<mpmc> by modify I mean add {cputemp}.
<fossfreedom> does it appear as soon as you open "budgie settings" ?
<mpmc> fossfreedom: No, when I open the preferences menu from the panel (right clicking the monitor text).
<mpmc> Sorry, left clicking >.<
<fossfreedom> hmm - ok - please file a bug against this project - https://github.com/fossfreedom/indicator-sysmonitor
<fossfreedom> I'll try to reproduce this later
<mpmc> Ok.
<mpmc> fossfreedom: OK done [https://github.com/fossfreedom/indicator-sysmonitor/issues/78]
<fossfreedom> thanks
<Guest14002> Hi. New Budgie user. I was wondering if the ubuntu 17.10 issue of corrupting the bios of certain manufacturers is present with budgie 17.10. Thanks.
<Guest14002> I was referring to Bug #1734147 described at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 1734147 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 corrupting BIOS - many LENOVO laptops models" [Critical,Confirmed]
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-22
<kikimi> Hi!. I updated Ubuntu budgie from 17.04 to 17.10, but I'm having issues when updating packages.
<kikimi> https://pastebin.com/urPD2EDu
<kikimi> Any hint to fix it?
<nic_> quit
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-24
<EquusGrevyi> Hi folks, I am trying to perform an rsync of a folder from a local network machine. It progresses for a while and then seems to hang in progress, but the drive indicator on the sender machine continues blinking away without any progression.
<EquusGrevyi> I have checked the filesystem and the files and they don't appear to be corrupted, and on restarting rsync seem to send perfectly fine.
<fossfreedom> EquusGrevyi, Hi - sounds like a generic enough question to ask on a wider audience forum like ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com
<EquusGrevyi> Ah, my apologies
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-25
<thebouzouker> Ubuntu Budgie 17.10. Does anyone knows how we can always center windows?
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-12-27
<mpmc> fossfreedom: Any ideas how I completely reset cursors, atm I seem to have different styles depending on application. In Chromium I have what looks like Breeze (hand cursor), the pointer is dmz-black. The resize icon appears to be breeze as well (in Tilix).
<fossfreedom> mpmc, have you tried flipping between two cursor styles in budgie-settings ?
<mpmc> fossfreedom: Yep.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-05
<TheSilentLink> Hi I when I press print screen nothing happens no sound and no screenshots in the picture folder. Anyone know why or where I can look to fix this? All my keybinds are default
<fossfreedom> TheSilentLink, is this Ubuntu Budgie - or have you installed ubuntu + budgie-desktop ?
<TheSilentLink> it's ubuntu budgie
<TheSilentLink> 18.10
<fossfreedom> You have reset all the keybindings ?
<TheSilentLink> yep but that didn't fix ti
<TheSilentLink> it*
<fossfreedom> resetting the keybindings resets the custom keyboard shortcuts for running gnome-screenshot
<TheSilentLink> I see at the bottom it says custom shortcuts and the screenshot one is disabled
<TheSilentLink> If I try to add print screen key to the custom shortcut nothing happens I doesn't want to accept it
<TheSilentLink> although the normal ones accept the print key
<fossfreedom> yeah - you first have to remove the print screen keybinding under the screenshots section
<fossfreedom> then you can set a custom keybinding for printscreen
<TheSilentLink> thanks works now!
<fossfreedom> yw
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-08
<callahanp> what the heck moment of the day:  I used the disks utility to mount a partition and it mounted it as root: /  It used to mount things as /media/user/sdax
<callahanp> #security
<callahanp> security
<roracle> hey there guys, does 18.10 use Wayland or Xorg?
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-09
<whiskeydog> Hello! Wanted to say a quick hi before I lurked for a while; huge fan of ubuntu budgie, been motivated to possibly eventually try and contribute in my out-of-work time. Figured it would be best to watch discourse in here for a while before trying to dive in, but I've never contributed to anything linux-distro related before, so if anyone here feels like offering a small amount of guidance on where to
<whiskeydog> even start with such a task, that'd be fantastic. Regardless, keep up the good work, I'm gonna settle in to lurk now. :)
<fossfreedom> whiskeydog, hi and welcome
<fossfreedom> most discussion actually occurs here https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org
<fossfreedom> in terms of contributing - anything and everything is welcome ... just depends really what interests you
<whiskeydog> i'm a software engineer, have been for a while. would love to contribute, i figure starting with simple bugfixes or small features. i was already digging through discourse, so i'll continue to to do so.
<fossfreedom> great - any specific languages - or languages that you would like to get more experience with?
<whiskeydog> honestly i want the experience of contributing to a large scale OSS project the most
<whiskeydog> i figure i'm going to have to dig into valla to contribute meaningfully, which is fine. languages are languages.
<fossfreedom> ah - that means looking through upstream https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop ... lots of issues ... various tags for "first time" etc for things to get started with
<fossfreedom> alternatively, the UB team is currently very interested in helping out with this project https://github.com/spheras/desktopfolder - its a key part of 19.04 and beyond
<whiskeydog> fantastic! same deal, start looking for beginner issues and just toss in a pull request?
<fossfreedom> sure
<whiskeydog> i do appreciate your help, even though i've been at this a very long time the thought of diving into anything distro-related has been daunting to me
<whiskeydog> i've liked UB enough that i think my motivation to contribute and help keep it alive has outweighed my anxiety in this case
<fossfreedom> happy to help - I'm more around on our discourse site - so if you can't find me here ... throw something there and I'll get back to you.
<whiskeydog> thank you very much
<whiskeydog> greatly appreciated
<fossfreedom> yw
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-16
<MrAureliusR> hi folks
<MrAureliusR> I am having weird UI issues with budgie after I launched a videogame the other day
<MrAureliusR> the game (Baldur's Gate) changed the screen resolution on launch
<MrAureliusR> after I quit the game, it didn't reset it back to 1600x900
<MrAureliusR> so I manually changed it back, but some UI elements are still not scaled properly even after reboots
<MrAureliusR> https://i.imgur.com/umlMqDV.png and https://i.imgur.com/LV7u3dZ.png
<MrAureliusR> really not sure what to do
<MrAureliusR> okay, I managed to fix the system tray scaling by decreasing the width of that panel, forcing the icons to shrink and then widening it again
<MrAureliusR> that seems to have re-scaled them properly
<MrAureliusR> nope, all messed up again
<MrAureliusR> just upgraded to 18.10 to see if that would fix it
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-17
<maetthew> Hello people! I'm trying to ditch Windows in favor of Budgie and so far I'm very pleased with it. I have an issue though I'm hoping to get some help with. I've been googling for approx 2 hrs trying to find out how to easily connect my Android device to Budgie and I found KDEConnect which seems to work ok except for a few quirks. One of them being I can't send any SMS (as in there are no option in the indicator menu). Anyone here
<maetthew> have experience with Budgie and KDEConnect?
<maetthew> Or do you have any other suggestions in terms of software to accomplish this?
<MrAureliusR> maetthew: If you use Android and you want to send SMS, just use messages.android.com
<MrAureliusR> I love it
<maetthew> MrAureliusR: I'd rather not. Trying to stay away as much as possible from Google. Textra does it for me
<MrAureliusR> ... yet you use an Android phone?
<maetthew> Heh, knew youd say that :) I'm not that "hardcore", to me there isn't really anything better. I just try to keep it as barebones and minimal as possible
<MrAureliusR> :P
<MrAureliusR> well, it's just the built-in messages app in a browser tab, basically
<MrAureliusR> I couldn't live without it now that they've introduced it
<maetthew> Hmm
<MrAureliusR> I tried to sort of hack it into Windows back when I used windows and it *sorta* worked
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-18
<alexander_prichm> Hey guys! Can you help me? How to decrease the count of workspaces?
<maetthew> Anyone got an idea why buttons in notifications doesn't do anything when pressed?
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-19
<Bebef> hi
<fossfreedom> Bebef, o/
<tgm4883> On 18.04, is there a way to have Plank not group multiple windows of the same application?
<fossfreedom> tgm4883, not explicitly - you can scroll over the plank icon to switch between windows of the same app - or right click on the icon to choose the window you want.
<tgm4883> fossfreedom: yea, that's what I've been doing. Interestingly, I ran across a bug report/feature request for doing the opposite, so at one point it was at least possible (well, there was only the ungrouped way)
<tgm4883> unfortunately, that isn't very pen friendly
<fossfreedom> ah - I'm guessing the icon-tasklist applet would be better for a pen
<tgm4883> fossfreedom: oh yea, that's much nicer for this.
<fossfreedom> tgm4883, remember - you can add a panel to the left/right/bottom and add the icon-task-list to it - then switch to dock mode for the panel to somewhat behave like plank.  Not exactly by an approximation
<fossfreedom> by --> but
<tgm4883> Yep, just did. Thanks for the pointer :)
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-20
<maetthew> Anyone got a solution for when icons on the desktop get partially obstructed by Plank? I'm on Budgie 18.04 (screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/mYJenv6)
<maetthew> Also when new icons appear they get stacked on top of each other. For instance when a usb stick gets mounted
<fossfreedom_> maetthew: I'm guessing you have plank with autohide/window dodge?  You have to use plank as a fixed dock for desktop icons to take into account the dock size
<maetthew> @fossfreedom_ Ah thanks. I had been looking for something in that regard, I missed the on/off switch for "hide dock". I was looking in the drop down for a "fixed" setting.
<maetthew> That also fixed the stacking of new icons
<maetthew> I'm trying to add "Online accounts" but they don't seem to actually get saved. For instance, trying to add a NextCloud account. I set up all the settings and press "Connect". It seems to validate the connection but it doesn't get saved. How would I go about to troubleshoot this?
<maetthew> (and yes I've tried other accounts like Google and Facebook with the same result)
<fossfreedom_> maetthew: not really sure.  Connecting my google account via online accounts works here.  So I don't know what is/isn't happening for you.  Seems like a generic enough question i.e. not UB specific - recommend ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com
<maetthew> fossfreedom_: Hmm ok. Trying to do permanent switch from Windows to Ubuntu enviroment. Don't have much experience with desktop enviroments and the difference in UI between Budgie and Ubuntu. I'll try your suggestions thanks
<fossfreedom_> The online accounts stuff isnt budgie specific - it is part of GNOME - so your question would equally apply to GNOME-Shell i.e. Ubuntu's default interface
<maetthew> Thanks
<maetthew> fossfreedom_: Is there a resource where I can learn more about the Budgie specific stuff somewhere?
<fossfreedom_> maetthew: nothing official ... however this site has a pretty good overview - its a series - so 3 articles in total so far to wander through http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/11/a-journey-on-budgie-desktop-1-top-panel.html
<maetthew> fossfreedom_: Seems like a good start anyway. Cheers
<maetthew> fossfreedom: If youre interested, the problem with online accounts is that gnome-online-accounts is not installed with minmal installation. Should I report this somewhere maybe?
<maetthew> Posted a bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1809264
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 1809264 in Ubuntu Budgie "gnome-online-accounts not installed in minimal" [Undecided,New]
<fossfreedom_> maetthew: ah - yes, that has been resolved in the latest bionic daily build and will be in 18.04.2 released in Jan/Feb
<maetthew> fossfreedom_: Ah nice. Should I change status on my bug report to "fix commited"?
<fossfreedom_> maetthew: I've updated the report
<maetthew> kk
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-21
<Bebef> I have trouble with ssh agent. I keep disabling (or deleting) it in "Startup Applications Preferences", but it keeps coming back.
<Bebef> I reckon this is controlled somewhere in dconf?
<Bebef> Wow, that little bugger is everywhere... Xsession and whatnot :(
<MrAureliusR> why would you want it disabled?
<MrAureliusR> Bebef
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-22
<Bebef> MrAureliusR: I am the one who decides when to have an ssh key permanently unlocked in the memory, not my GUI. I don't want to be forced to put an ssh key into an agent every single time I use it. I mean, it's stupid enough to leave a computer around unlocked, but anyone having access also having access to any remote host via ssh? Noo sire!
<Bebef> MrAureliusR: Apart from that it seemed to break things like Ansible.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-12-26
<dreamcat4> confused about something: upgraded fro 18.04 to 18.10. and it forgets the number of workspaces, sets it back to 1 after each reboot
<dreamcat4> this has broken for me
<dreamcat4> but also: cannot add new workspaces anymore with everything except for the official workspace switcher app
<dreamcat4> which i hate
<dreamcat4> the ones i use are compact workspace switcher and workspace overview
<dreamcat4> so for some reasons: this has changed. the default gnome keyboard shortcut also no longs dynamically adds new workspaces
<dreamcat4> @ /org/gnome/desktop/wm/keybindings/move-to-monitor-left (in dconf)
<dreamcat4> used to do that on 18.04
<dreamcat4> so what new mechanism is the official workspace switcher app using now for 18.10 ?
<fossfreedom> dreamcat4, hmm.  odd. Thought I checked that back in sept/oct time.  Can you raise this on our version of github https://github.com/ubuntubudgie/budgie-desktop - need to investigate further with you.
<dreamcat4> thanks fossfreedom
<dreamcat4> although i dont have time to raise that issue right now, as it requires filling in all that system information. can do it later
<dreamcat4> its this though ? the official 18.10 'workspace switcher applet'
<dreamcat4> https://github.com/UbuntuBudgie/budgie-desktop/blob/master/src/applets/workspaces/WorkspacesApplet.vala
<fossfreedom> no worries ... very busy this holiday season - so I'll try to get to it sometime soon once family time is done.
<dreamcat4> just wanted to see if there was a different underlying command i could call now
<dreamcat4> to do what that applet is doing. since its the only one that works anymore
<fossfreedom> 18.10 is in the mutterIIredux branch
<dreamcat4> thanks!
<dreamcat4> i really needed to know that
<dreamcat4> mutter redux 330 2 or 3? (ii or iii)
<fossfreedom> 2
<dreamcat4> this is very helpful. because also wanted to check that branch for something else. not-related to this
<dreamcat4> which was mutter patch for removing 60hz locked
<dreamcat4> cannot go above 60hz
<fossfreedom> k - that wouldnt be in budgie-desktop - that would be in the mutter source package
<dreamcat4> this is where my understanding of how you use mutter is entirely missing
<dreamcat4> so you link to mutter.so libs ?
<fossfreedom> remember budgie at the moment is basically a plugin to mutter - at least the window management part
<dreamcat4> ah. i didnt know that
<dreamcat4> i still need to find out what version of mutter you are using. to know when mutter has fixed this, and if the fix is present on my local system
<fossfreedom> apt-get source mutter
<dreamcat4> ok thanks again for that other help. have to go now. see you later
<fossfreedom> yw
<dreamcat4> ah. before raising an issue, i should first try logging in with a brand new user account.
<dreamcat4> forgot to do that
<dreamcat4> unfortunately those other diligence steps did not fix these broken workspaces. so have raised that github issue now https://github.com/UbuntuBudgie/budgie-desktop/issues/43

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