#ubuntu-design 2012-04-02
<mfilipe> hi! anyone knows some serif font combine with ubuntu font?
<mfilipe> ?
<mfilipe> some canonical designer?
<thorwil> mfilipe: consider one of http://www.google.com/webfonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Arvo|Bitter|PT+Serif|Vollkorn|Ubuntu
<mfilipe> thorwil, thanks a lot
<thorwil> you're welcome
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-03
<thorwil> seems nobody checked the orange in option 1: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown
<mmiicc> thorwil: Option 3 looks wrong too, but even on http://design.ubuntu.com/assets/colour-palette there are several oranges used :)
<thorwil> mmiicc: yeah, that's probably a mess-up due to print vs screen colors.
<gotwig> Hey there
<gotwig> I want a new logo for my cooking lens. Anyone interessted ? :-) https://launchpad.net/lens-cooking
<YoBoY> cjohnston: the bot spamming this chan with connect/disconnect is yours ?
<czajkowski> YoBoY: which bot?
<YoBoY> cwt-bugs
<YoBoY> cwt-bugs (~supybot@unaffiliated/cjohnston/bot/cwt-bugs)
<cwt-bugs> YoBoY: Error: "(~supybot@unaffiliated/cjohnston/bot/cwt-bugs)" is not a valid command.
<czajkowski> hmm was under the impression ubuntu channels should have non Ubuntu bots
<YoBoY> it's always disconnect with this message : "Disconnected by services"
<czajkowski> for reasons like this they can spam channels
<czajkowski> wher as ubuntu bots are under the irc ops control
<cjohnston> czajkowski: YoBoY yes, its mine. I was asked to put it here because we have still been unable to secure a bug bot
<czajkowski> yes but a bot that's spamming is far more annoying than no bot
<cjohnston> hide joins parts
<czajkowski> not really ideal either cjohnston
<cjohnston> its no more spam than those who ping timeout multiple times a day
<czajkowski> cjohnston: not really, we have rules for bots, especially in Ubuntu channels
<AlanBell> afternoon all, is a bug bot required here or something?
<czajkowski> AlanBell: indeed
<YoBoY> cjohnston: Yes, sure I can hide the join/part on my client (i don't really care that kind of spam), it was just to let you know there is a problem in case you do the same (hide join/part).
<czajkowski> AlanBell: can the bug bot be added in here please.
<cjohnston> then secure a bot
<om26er> your internet is so broken
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-04
<rye> hello, are user-experience questions accepted here?
<rye> rhythmbox prevents session exit if it is playing something now. I was quite puzzled by this but is it ok from UX standpoint?
<rye> ping gord (re: rhythmbox now inhibiting the session exit when it is playing something) - is this a good user experience? We ship the power-manager enabled and it does not seem like it can be disabled
<rye> should i file a bug about this? I am searching for somebody in UX who can say whether this good or not.
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-11
<nava> Hi all, i have an idea and mock-up for unity
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-13
<abira> hey kenvandine
<abira> whatever happened to gwibber
<abira> kenvandine: was working on a client stuff that used G so had a few concepts made for them of which some are unused and gwibber came to mind so uploaded them
<kenvandine> abira, we need to make a decision on the logo soon
<kenvandine> been busy getting 12.04 out
<kenvandine> maybe during UDS we can try to put together the feedback and make a decision
<abira> ah ok
<abira> i just uploaded 6 new concepts
<abira> let me know wht you think
<kenvandine> abira, awesome!
<abira> no smile faces in them lol so:D
<kenvandine> hehe
<abira> but i think the sense of inter cnnectivity is there
<kenvandine> we need to update the website too, the info there is antique
<abira> yeh i noticed
<kenvandine> so a good time to change logo, etc
<kenvandine> i really need to find someone with the time/interest to handle that stuff
<abira> well everyone was bitching n whining in the ombbuntu article about complexity so i got it down to simplicity
<abira> little to no gradients in the current concepts
 * kenvandine goes to look
<abira> 2-3 colors max for ones that use a gradient and then solid fills
<abira> the lower bottom left concept in blue/green has a centre that makes up a G too
<abira> all negative space
<abira> the centre for that makes up for a serif G while the outside uses a sans-serif G
<abira> anything you like?
<abira> also i think for gwibber a handwriting font would look a bit more nicer/friendly since its a social app
<kenvandine> abira, it's nice, as are others too
<kenvandine> abira, i am not sure i want to base it on a G, quite a few people want to rename gwibber
<kenvandine> abira, i do like the handwriting there though
<kenvandine> abira, and i do think it is very fitting for an app like gwibber
<abira> cool
<abira> rename gwibber?
<abira> oo bold
<abira> renaming gwibber means half the concepts there wont work i guess
<abira> but if you are renaming it let me know
<kenvandine> not sure i want to
<kenvandine> but it has been suggested many times
<abira> i wouldnt receommend that
<abira> there isnt really nything wrong with gwibber, sure a lot of products out there could use a new name but changing names means changing everything
<abira> aexit
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-16
 * mpt ponders renaming the messaging menu to the message menu
<mpt> Hm, no, that wouldn't work, it would be confused with Thunderbird's Message menu
<czajkowski> mpt: is there any way to set a time limit on how long a email message is displayed on the notifcation?
<czajkowski> rather than it just lingering there, as you can't click it to bring you to the email so it's just annoying to see it
<mpt> czajkowski, what do you mean by "you can't click it to bring you to the email"?
<czajkowski> mpt: you know that annoying email notifcation pop up that is displayed under the date/time applicator
<czajkowski> well when I click on the email notifcation it says there or go away but but comes back but never brings you to your email
<mpt> czajkowski, I suggest reporting a bug on whichever mail program that is. A notification bubble isn't a good way of notifying you of e-mail.
<czajkowski> thunderbird
<czajkowski> ok
<czajkowski> thanks
<mpt> Just finished updating the messaging menu design: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu?action=diff&rev2=83&rev1=81
<mpt> Just finished writing the system menu specification: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemMenu
<mpt> Just expanded the Bluetooth specification, including switches in the menu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth
<mpt> Where should I report unity-greeter bugs, <https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter> or <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter>?
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-17
<sladen> morning all
<czajkowski> morning
<ochosi> hi everyone
<ochosi> i'm the artwork lead of xubuntu, i have a quick question: i created the default gtk-theme for xubuntu and recently started testing unity-support for it
<ochosi> so far the theming all looks ok, but reportedly (haven't had a chance to test this myself) the theme doesn't show up in unity's theme-selector
<ochosi> what is needed for the theme to show up there?
<ochosi> for reference, this is the theme i'm talking about: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tree/unity
<ochosi> (oh, and if this isn't the right channel to ask, please point me to the right place)
<YoBoY> hi, someone know where to find the official artwork of the ubuntu 12.04 CD wallet ?
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-18
<nava> JohnLea: Hi
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-20
<YoBoY> hi, someone know where to find the official artwork of the ubuntu 12.04 CD wallet ?
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-23
<sladen> https://ubuntu.optimalworkshop.com/optimalsort/ubuntuia <-- help wanted.  Should take about 15 minutes to fill out
<czajkowski> sladen: oh interesting
<Omega> sladen: The examples were off-putting "smoked bacon", "raw salmon".
<sladen> Omega: groovy.  Eh, what's the context (I'm guessing Fedora naming?)
<sladen> Omega: ahhh, on the example in the card sort.
<sladen> Omega: I confuse that I hadn't looked in detail
<sladen> confess
<sladen> Omega: but as a vegetarian, I'm inclined to agree
<Omega> sladen: Hopefully the next will have less gruesome examples :)
<sladen> Omega: perhaps I can encourage you to skip the example, and go straight to be main course
<sladen> Omega: which has real-world pages on the Ubuntu website that need categorising
<Omega> sladen: I tried but it said that I didn't have flash.
<sladen> Omega: thank you for trying.
<Omega> sladen: Because you have been so nice to me, I shall do my best to get this working.
<Omega> sladen: Alright, I have it working, now I shall complete it.
<Omega> sladen: What is meant with "Verticles"?
<Omega> Verticals*
 * Omega blushes
<sladen> Omega: perhaps stick it in group called "don't understand"
<sladen> Omega: because if it is not understandable/findable, then that page is somewhat useless
<sladen> Omega: there's no reason to blush.  The exercise is about making the Ubuntu.com site better in the long-run.  And for every person such as you (or I) that don't understand that terms, there will be 10 others who spotted it and didn't want to say
<sladen> Omega: 100 others who spotted it and didn't know how to say.  1000 others who spotted it and didn't know, and 10,000 others who just didn't understand it either
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-25
<om26er> is there a banner that says "Precise Release Party" ???
<om26er> could anyone please point me to that ?
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-26
<psivaa> i find it inconsistent to have the app window close icon on the top left corner whilst the app's tab close buttons are on the top right
<psivaa> this could have been discussed here prev but i am new :$
<peterm-ubuntu> we are live!
<abira> sup
#ubuntu-design 2012-04-28
<JanC> as the gnome3-based system configuration tool is really annoying from a UX perspective, is there any chance Ubuntu will fix it or replace it by something better?  ;)
<JanC> I mean, the "single window for all settings" concept is really annoying
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-02
<snwh> damn, mpt is gone.
<snwh> was going to ask about this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/8pxicons.png
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-03
<mpt> snwh, I don't understand what I'm looking at. :-)
<mpt> Is that the Launcher at the smallest possible size?
<snwh> mpt, yea amy08@example.org. I was puzzled as to it's purpose
<mpt> No idea.
<snwh> mpt, I didn't even know it could go that small. I found out through a feature request for unity tweak tool "can you let us resize the launcher to 8px" or something
<snwh> I'm just wondering if its a bug
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-04
<mpt> Just published: preliminary sketches for the System Settings overview on Ubuntu Phone. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone
<mpt> I'm currently working on the settings panels for choosing background pictures.
<mpt> Just completed initial draft of Background settings design for the phone. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Appearance#Phone
<snwh> mpt, cool stuff :)
<mpt> Now writing up the Brightness settings design
<mpt> (None of this iOS "Brightness & Wallpaper" or Gnome "Brightness & Lock" nonsense)
<snwh> Android, shuffles brightness under "Display" along with wallpaper, rotation, sleep, font and "Daydream" (screensavers lol)
<mpt> Brightness: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brightness#Phone
<mpt> Heh, "Daydream"
<mpt> snwh, seems to me that rotation is the sort of thing you'd never want to go into settings for, only ever more quickly than that
<mpt> like sound volume
<mpt> Hmmm, what to do next
<snwh> I wonder if I can get and electric sheep "daydream"
<snwh> mpt, I agree. on my nexus 7 rotation is in the "quick settings"
<snwh> mpt, what about data usage et al.?
<mpt> That is on my list, and it might help with debugging during development
<mpt> I think knowing what version you're actually using might be even more helpful for debugging :-)
<snwh> I assume that'd go under "About Phone"
<mpt> and that should be much easier to design and implement, so I might do that one and then do data storage
<mpt> yeah
<snwh> I meant data usage as in Wifi
<mpt> ah
<snwh> mobile data
<mpt> Sorry, I misread as data storage
<mpt> right
<snwh> for those of us without the unlimited data plans, I find it useful lol
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-05
<xnox> mpt: what needs to be done to the settings to be part of the "gnome-control-centre' ? just embed it directly or tweak the UI at the same time =)
<mpt> xnox, which settings?
<xnox> mpt: System Cog -> clicking software & updates opens a new window instead of showing the settings "inline" with breadcrumb like for example "Appearance"
<mpt> xnox, yes, I'd love those settings to be integrated with the rest of System Settings, as shown in the mockup :-)
<xnox> mpt: which mockup?
<mpt> xnox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareAndUpdatesSettings?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=drivers-settings.mockup.png
<xnox> Ah, ok. Let's see....
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-09
<mpt> Just completed "About This Phone" design: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone
<xnox> mpt: we may want two version numbers / lines in the "OS" field. As we currently have a combination of UbuntuOS and AndroidCore version numbers and we will be updating those independently.
<xnox> E.g. Ubuntu phone 13.05 / Android 4.1.2
<mpt> xnox, ok, if it turns out we do need that, please get it added to the requirements. :-)
<xnox> mpt: which/where/what requirements? =)
<mpt> xnox, the PRD
<xnox> mpt: seems like we are planning to encode android version in the "phone os" version string.
<xnox> thus one string is sufficient.
<mpt> ok
<mpt> Just completed initial design for "Location" settings: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location#Phone
<xnox> "when off" - what off? location detection or wifi?
<xnox> "Disable to save battery"?
<mpt> xnox, why would you think it was wi-fi?
<xnox> mpt: It was the only and last thing to be mentioned as off. Maybe I'm just not a native speaker.....
<jedidiah> xnox: Ah you mean turning off getting location data from wifi?
<mpt> xnox, like many captions (and like this sentence I'm writing now), each sentence is a predicate where the subject is implied. It's the same subject in both cases. Assuming a different subject for each sentence would take some work. :-)
<jedidiah> Can you enable/disable GPS and WiFi location separately?
<xnox> wifi (currently off) and gps do foo. When off (... wifi?!), gps turns off as well.
<mpt> (Actually, ignore that first parenthesis. It was correct when I started writing...)
<mpt> jedidiah, not at the moment. Can you think of a use case for that?
<jedidiah> mpt: I used to do it because I moved house and took my router with me so my Android would set my location as the other side of the country as that is where the Google street view car scanned it. But I really don't think that will be a very common use.
<xnox> mpt: that second part is wrong. If one disabled "location detection" (via all methods) it saves power via any means. E.g. if I have wifi on & location detection off, I save power as I don't need to poll/check all wifi-access points visible in the range and constantly query the internet databases as to where in the world i can see that set of access points.
<xnox> and I do not have GPS chip.
<mpt> Urgh, phones without GPS? My head hurts.
<xnox> constantly scanning available wifi hotspots & quering location drains battery when one is up and about.
<xnox> mpt: second sentance should be: "Disable location detection to save battery". The first one which tells available/used methods to detect location is good.
<mpt> Oh yes, that is much simpler. :-)
<mpt> Fixed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location?action=diff&rev2=3&rev1=2
<mpt> Thanks xnox
<mpt> jedidiah, that seems like just a bug to me ... If the GPS shows that you're nowhere near where the wi-fi DB thinks you are, the wi-fi DB should be ignored
<jedidiah> mpt: That would certainly make sense :)
<xnox> mpt: well, generally use the best reliable source as possible - but if one only has one available then that's where it's gonna think you are. People spoof GPS signal and shield their phones to "win" points on four-square, ingress and other location based games.
<mpt> Hah, and meanwhile ted is lobbying me to have a "Lie about my location" setting
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-10
 * mpt starts on "Online Accounts" phone settings design
<snwh> mpt, I have a question: what sort of accounts would be "offline accounts"?
<mpt> snwh, the kind you use to log in to Ubuntu itself.
<mpt> But since the phone won't have those (at least to start with), I think the first version of Online Accounts can be called just "Accounts". :-)
<snwh> my thoughts exactly
<mpt> ...Online Accounts done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OnlineAccounts#phone-settings
<snwh> mpt are all the wiki pages for all the phone settings separate?
<mpt> snwh, they're all linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings
<snwh> okay cool
<mpt> Tomorrow: Security & Privacy. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone
<xnox> mpt: I wish all "designy" wiki-pages were added to a common "WikiCategory" to get automatic index of them all.
 * xnox sometimes fails to find them when searching
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-11
<mpt> xnox, I'd prefer those documents to contain more than just design details, but implementation and contribution details too. :-)
<mpt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth is an embryonic example.
<xnox> mpt: right, and for the devs to add those, we need to somehow find those pages. Wiki's are not great at discovering, thus adding a category would at least generate links to them.
<mpt> katie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OnlineAccounts#phone-settings
<xnox> mpt: I guess redesigning all wiki's and document management around the world is not at the top of your priority =))))
<mpt> xnox, actually, I did that back in 2010 or so
<mpt> Just completed initial design for "Cellular" phone settings. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#Phone
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-12
<mpt> Just completed draft design for phone "Diagnostics" settings: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#settings
<xnox> mpt: developer settings are weird =)
<xnox> I write a python script that crashes. The crash is from /usr/bin/python and thus is system wide =)
<xnox> well, i guess path should kick-in and notice that the script is in home dir.
<xnox> should be fine i think then.
<xnox> never mind me.
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-15
<mpt> Currently working on chart/list of how phone storage space is being used (space free, spaced used by Ubuntu, space used by each app)
<mpt> Hm, do we have a pattern for sortable table columns
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-16
<xnox> Slide deck of U1 in the installer as implemented for landing for release after raring (13.10): https://plus.google.com/photos/105922848292507689403/albums/5867349973727737569
<xnox> ralsina was pinged about it, not sure who wanted to re-review it ^
<mpt> Just posted initial design for accessing SIM services: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp#Settings
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-17
 * snwh breaks the silence
 * jedidiah puts it back together again.
<snwh> damn
<mpt> Lock when idle. Lock on sleep. Sleep locks immediately.
<mpt> Sleep when idle.
<mpt> This is like "/!\ The display will turn off before the screensaver activates." all over again.
<snwh> you forgot sleep on idle
<mpt> What's the difference between "sleep on idle" and "Sleep when idle"? :-)
<snwh> I was kidding :P
<mpt> A shame English doesn't have a common simple word for "inhibit"
<xnox> mpt: do you mean suspend or hybernate? big difference between the two inhibit methods on UNIX......
<mpt> xnox, neither
<mpt> well
<xnox> *sigh*
<mpt> xnox, the equivalent of "Lock Screen"
<xnox> mpt: on the technical side of things it's actually same as switching to a different user account. Since just like a logged in user it has indicators/launcher/apps/"live wallpaper with information".
<mpt> "Shorter times are more secure. Phone wonât lock during calls or video playback.â
<xnox> why not.
<mpt> xnox, yeah, the equivalent of "Lock Screen", not the equivalent of "Switch User Accountâ¦"
<xnox> you can totally keep the phone call / video playback active, yet require to unlock after one exits.
<mpt> E.g. if you're playing music and you lock the phone, the music should keep playing.
<xnox> similarly one shouldn't require to unlock the phone to play public youtube video or to answer a call.
<mpt> That's a separate problem. :-)
<xnox> thus after exiting the phone call, you may see the lock screen =)
<mpt> Yes.
<mpt> "during"
 * xnox likes screen turning off during the call though.
 * snwh doesn't like screen *locking* during a call
<mpt> Yes, but that isn't the same as locking either...
<xnox> and when the screen is off it's hard to tell if it's "locked or off or something else"
<mpt> To find out, just take it away from your ear
<snwh> presumably the screen turns off during a call due to the proximity sensor
<xnox> snwh: sure but turning off screen based on the proximity/ambience sensor during the call saves piles of battery.
<snwh> not debating that
<xnox> mpt: you clearly don't talk on the phone in nightclubs / at night =) it didn't always work on iPhone 3gs requiring me to press the lock button to "wake it up"
<snwh> sometimes i've made a call via the speaker and still used the phone for other things, so the screen isnt off in that case
<xnox> snwh: hmm... yeah and not locked either....
<xnox> hmm....
<snwh> it could go off if idle+during call
<snwh> should implement a "slam-to-end-call" so you can hang up your phone like the old days âusing the proximity/accelerometerâ "Smack your phone face-down on the table to end a call." :P
<snwh> cause hanging up violently has been lost
<xnox> yeah, some phone did go silent if you flip it (accelerometor or something)
 * snwh isn't serious :)
 * xnox is MUAHAHAH
 * xnox off to code that feature
<xnox> snwh: the problem with open source is feature creep, but worse off working implementations of feature creep =)
<snwh> it wouldn't be a feature that would be popular, as slamming your $600 phone isn't ideal :)
<mpt> https://twitter.com/rohdesign/status/324548858430500865
<snwh> that would be hard on the colon
<mpt> Just posted "Security & Privacy" wireframes (no spec text yet): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone
<snwh> in terms of lock, I've always liked a pattern lock akin to Android
<xnox> snwh: used to be useless as it used to auto-unlock upon completing the sequence without requiring one to lift the finger, thus one could brute-force by only trying all the 9 spots combinations sans jumps which was less than 4 digit pin.
<xnox> and smudges on the screen give it away even quicker =)
<xnox> iphone is more annoying, even with lock it pushes private sms & email on to the lock screen =(
<xnox> idealy i'd like to pin protect OTP generator
<snwh> xnox, what? the combinations for a non-jump 9 point pattern are far higher than range of possibilities for a 4 digit pin
<snwh> well for a lock screen I'm talking, not the sim lock pin
<xnox> snwh: i'll have to calculate again..... you are quite right.
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-19
<xnox> @Canonical-design team please review bug 1170741
<meetingology> xnox: Error: "Canonical-design" is not a valid command.
<xnox> Canonical-design team please review bug 1170741
<ubot5> bug 1170741 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu does not provide keyboard shortcut to change keyboard layouts by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170741
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-22
<mpt> Completed initial "Security & Privacy" settings design for the phone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-23
<mpt> katie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=14&rev1=13
<mpt> Just posted the winning layout for System Settings overview on phone. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone
<snwh> have some affirmation mpt: :D
<mpt> ^_^
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-24
<me4oslav> mhal119 - tell dmitry to fix the background colour of the IRC and Terminal app - people don't go below #2d2d2d when it come to colour that will serve as a BG for a lot of text
<me4oslav> comes*
<me4oslav> #222222 not #2d2d2d (not that it makes that much of difference ;p)
#ubuntu-design 2013-04-30
<YoBoY> hi
<YoBoY> someone here ? :)
<YoBoY> there is a SVG of the new ubuntu unity launcher ?
<YoBoY> no-one ? :]
<YoBoY> I need help for the ubuntu DVD Wallet, I want to produce something like that http://ubuntuone.com/1PxNpLf46T2bPDoppnOU2E but I don't know how to recreate the logo with the shadow, etcâ¦ :]
#ubuntu-design 2014-04-15
<mpt> Show status in the menu bar:
<mpt>     When a chargeable battery/component is present
<mpt>     When a battery/component is charging or in use
<mpt>     Never
#ubuntu-design 2014-04-17
<mpt> JohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings
<JohnLea> mpt, thanks!
<mpt> JohnLea, note that âCellularâ and âWi-Fiâ are separate sections (and Flight Mode is a toggle that isnât in any section)
<JohnLea> mpt; noted, will create appropriate cards, thanks
<mpt> JohnLea, I guess âReset Phoneâ counts as its own section, too
<JohnLea> mpt; cool, will add
<JohnLea> mpt; should Storage be a separate card from About This Phone?
<mpt> JohnLea, up to you how detailed you get. âStorageâ is one of only four screens in the âAbout This Phoneâ section. Meanwhile, âSecurity & Privacyâ has 12 (soon to be 11) screens, not even counting dialogs.
<JohnLea> mpt; ok, that's too detailed, will just create one for About This Phone
<mpt> ok
#ubuntu-design 2014-04-22
<howefield> exit
<snwh> entrance
#ubuntu-design 2014-04-23
<ixxvil> whoever is awae
#ubuntu-design 2015-04-13
<rpadovani> Hi all :-) I'm looking for an HR image of vivid vervet, to insert it on a LoCo team website. Something like http://ubuntu-it.org/sites/default/files/features/ubuntu/screenshots/welcome.jpg
<rpadovani> (but with a vervet and not a thar :-)
#ubuntu-design 2015-04-20
 * mpt discovers http://thomaspark.co/2011/10/making-menus-escapable/
<mpt> Wow, I wish Iâd seen that four years ago
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-07
<mike00> hi, I would like to know why the ubuntu touch theme is becoming so flat...?
<Femma1> raeshambrook_:  will be able to help you with your question mike00
<Femma1> raeshambrook_:  mike00 is asking why the ubuntu touch theme is becoming so flat?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: hi mike, there was several reasons why we have moved in a flat direction. we are developing a visual language we've been developing for a couple of years now, called Suru. It's based on origami and paper and white space, simplicity fits in with that. Also, this direction will help our designs become more scalable as we become convergent and it's a good base to build upon. Last, we think it's a good idea to keep u
<raeshambrook_> mike00: so there were lots of different reasons for us to go that direction, i hope this helps?
<mike00> is there someone in this channel?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: did you get my message about flat design?
<mike00> no...
<raeshambrook_> mike00: oh ok, here it is again: there was several reasons why we have moved in a flat direction. we are developing a visual language we've been developing for a couple of years now, called Suru. It's based on origami and paper and white space, simplicity fits in with that. Also, this direction will help our designs become more scalable as we become convergent and it's a good base to build upon. Last, we think it's a goo
<raeshambrook_> mike00: meant competitors for the last word
<mike00> but I don't like the new keyboards...
<raeshambrook_> mike00: sorry to hear but the reason why we changed it is exactly what i mentioned before. we had to change the keyboard because the old one was looking really strange on tablet, so the design needed to be much more simple
<mike00> oh.. I understand
<mike00> yesterday I was trying creating an icon for my app. I follow some instructions on the design section of the ubuntu site and I find somes a bit difficult to realise. which program do you suggest me to create the icon?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: our icon designer uses inkscape
<mike00> me too, but I found some instructions a bit difficult, like the background
<mike00> some tips to realise Folds or object? how can I create a quite realistic thing, like a tree or everything?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: that's kind of a tough one to answer over a forum like this, as i can't see the design you're after and it would be too long to explain. what i would recommend is looking up some tutorials to help achieve the look you want to
<raeshambrook_> mike00: btw, the icon doesnt necessarily need a fold. it can be as simple or elaborate as you want
<mike00> where can I see tutorial? and what I'll have to search to?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: it depend on what you want to do. so if you want to work in inkscape and do a tree, i'd see if there are any inkscape tutorials covering trees or landscapes
<mike00> with a standard search engine? like DuckDuckGo?
<raeshambrook_> mike00: yeah, ive just had a google search and it looks like there's tons of inkscape tutorials
<mike00> thanks
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-08
<mike00> hi, why the switch design has changed? it was so nice... now it is similar to most of switches of other os...
<mike00> bye
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-12
<Emersont1> Hi
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-14
<mpt> Femma, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-connecting-dialog
<Femma> ta mpt
<mpt> Femma, also, in complex auth cases <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-authentication-variations> we (usually?) wonât be able to tell which of the fields is incorrect, so we wouldnât be able to highlight the wrong one anyway
<Femma> ta mpt
<mpt> Femma, thatâs extremely common for sign-in dialogs too. For privacy reasons, a service wonât reveal whether a particular e-mail address has an account. So itâs vague and says âYour e-mail address or password was incorrectâ, rather than being specific and saying âThatâs the wrong passwordâ.
<mpt> Femma, another thing to cover (donât know if you have already): When you do highlight an erroneous control, when should it stop being highlighted? (a) when you focus it (b) when you change its value (c) when you unfocus it (d) when the dialog is submitted
<Femma> I'll address those in the spec :) mpt
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-15
<mike00> hi, can someone tell me why switches are became so flat?
<mike00> before the update, they were so nice
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-21
<sladen> JohnLea___: have you/marcus seen/recieved emails from yesterday afternoon?
<JohnLea___> sladen; just seen but back to back meetings today, will get back to you as soon as I've got a moment
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-26
<mike00> Hi
<mike00> Can anyone suggest me an icon for an Ubuntu touch application?
#ubuntu-design 2016-04-27
<sladen> JohnLea___: testing testing testing
<JohnLea___> sladen; I'm at a sprint this week, but Marcus will be at the weekly meeting
<sladen> JohnLea___: on Hangouts, do you know if Marcus is expecting soemthing else?
#ubuntu-design 2018-04-01
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#ubuntu-design 2018-04-17
<JHOSMAN> Hello, I'm from Colombia, I hope you can help me by sharing the design of the banner that you use for the conferences, Canonical has sent me the money to send it to make in my country.
<JHOSMAN> You can share the SVG of this banner? https://framasphere.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_dc349f0e886483140b10.png

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