#ubuntu-mythtv 2007-05-01 <williammanda> help!!! <superm1> williammanda, did you break something? <williammanda> my xorg.0.log.....unble to load "xf86ExecX86int10 <williammanda> i get this error toward the end of the xorg..... <williammanda> trying to get the svideo working <williammanda> what is this file? <superm1> cant say i've ever heard of it <williammanda> if it would load...i think it would work <superm1> could you paste your Xorg.0.log in a pastebin website? <superm1> so i can see the rest <williammanda> hold on <williammanda> http://pastebin.ca/466331 <williammanda> sorry had to reload the "good" xorg <williammanda> i have been working on this for about 7 hours today... <superm1> man! <superm1> wow <williammanda> been following several guides <superm1> are you attempting a clone mode? <williammanda> on tseloit now <superm1> or what is your end goal? <superm1> just tv-out? <williammanda> well...it looks like one of two ways... <williammanda> cloning or 2 separate screens <williammanda> i can't get either going <superm1> well this is the trouble <superm1> # <superm1> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768" <superm1> # <superm1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): The requested configuration of display devices is not <superm1> # <superm1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): supported in the hardware. <superm1> more so then that xf86ExecX86int10 i think <superm1> if you are trying to do clone resolutions, both tv and monitor need to support that resolution <williammanda> hummm <superm1> so do them as seperate <superm1> or better yet <superm1> twinview <williammanda> twinview works with 6200 le? <williammanda> nvidia <williammanda> i follwed this for twinview... <williammanda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut <superm1> and thats what you have? <superm1> right now <williammanda> yes <superm1> well that is weird. <williammanda> nvidia 6200 le <superm1> there is no reason it shouldnt support twinview <superm1> is that similar to what it spit out from nvidia-settings? <williammanda> i'll reload the twinview xorg file and post the log <williammanda> humm...something intresting just happened.... <williammanda> my lcd monitor was blank... <williammanda> so I decided to try the tv <williammanda> i switched the channels around and I have the desktop on the tv <superm1> haha <superm1> there you go <williammanda> but not on the monitor <superm1> so the two are switched? <williammanda> si that the way it is supposed to be? <superm1> open up nvidia-settings <superm1> and you can switch the one that is primary i think <williammanda> yes switched <tgm4883> is there something good to read on the file structure of linux? <rogue780|laptop> argh! does anyone know about openchrome? the picture is all distorted on the tv. just black and white, and garbled like HBO <superm1> sorry rogue780|laptop , no :( <rogue780|laptop> well I'm gonna find out, then I'm going to put all my unichrome stuff that I learned in the wiki <superm1> awesome :) <superm1> thats what i like to hear <superm1> tgm4883, wikipedia i'd bet <superm1> bendailey, imbrandon stopped in and said things are going to be moving along smoothly with the domain :) <superm1> good to hear <tgm4883> thanks superm1, just checked it out, not really what im looking for. Ill just use google and hope i get something relevent <superm1> what are you looking to find out about file structures exactly? <rogue780|laptop> success! <superm1> that was quick rogue780|laptop <superm1> :) <tgm4883> i really just want to know what things are for, for instance, why is bin named bin? why etc, why opt, sbin <tgm4883> that sort of thing <tgm4883> interesting that ive been using linux this long and have no idea what those are <rogue780|laptop> etc stands for "Extra Tool Chest" so i'm told <rogue780|laptop> bin I think is called that because it is where the actual binary programs are kept <rogue780|laptop> the rest is a mystery <superm1> and lib is where libraries are kept <rogue780|laptop> to me anyway <rogue780|laptop> see there ya go <rogue780|laptop> home is ...well no need to explain that <tgm4883> ok, so if i wanted to mount a nfs share for multiple users, where would i mount it? <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard <rogue780|laptop> what would take to put built in unichrome support into mythbuntu? <superm1> tgm4883, /mnt typically <tgm4883> thanks superm1, i looked all over for that, although i was searching for things like "unified filesystem" and "linux filesystem" <superm1> but that depends on its purpose really <superm1> rogue780|laptop, what was involved with getting unichrome going? <superm1> ex if you are mounting an area for temp space, it wouldnt make sense to mount it in /mnt <rogue780|laptop> well I just had to follow the tutorial on the ubuntu site about openchrome mostly....but then I had to find some random setting for xorg. that was the hard part, which is why I'm putting that on the wiki <superm1> after first release (and hence we have a lot of the installer stuff sorted out), it should be feasible <tgm4883> mp3's, movies, user documents, pictures, CD's, misc files <rogue780|laptop> I just downloaded the file from svn, autoconf'd it, make, make install...etc <superm1> why isnt the driver in feisty? <superm1> more importantly will it be in gutsy <superm1> tgm4883, like a home folder? <superm1> like several home folders <rogue780|laptop> that's what I want to know. it's a free open source driver....probably just because openchrome isn't overly popular <rogue780|laptop> except for us people who build our mythfrontends in old NES cases and need a small motherboard and are stuck with via/unichrome <superm1> i'll add it to my todo list <tgm4883> sorta, the only thing user independent would be the user documents, the rest (CD's are all my ripped software, movies are all my ripped dvd's, mp3's , misc files are files everyone needs access too). Although currently it is temp mounted in my home folder for testing <superm1> it would most likely make sense to mount in /mnt i think <superm1> for that purpose <tgm4883> ok, i was thinking that or either /usr/share <superm1> not /usr/share <superm1> thats not a good idea <rogue780|laptop> now to set up lirc <superm1> some apps use that for other things <tgm4883> ah ok <tgm4883> is there a way to test throughput over a network connection? <tgm4883> i think my nic is acting up on my server <superm1> iperf <tgm4883> sweet thanks <tgm4883> hmm, looks fine to me <superm1> you can tweak quite a bit with that app <tgm4883> im thinking i need an extended test, as it seems to stall when transfering large files, then continues <tgm4883> its a good app though <superm1> scp or nfs stall? <tgm4883> nfs, and its just for a few seconds, then keeps going. Also, ssh takes a few seconds to return the password prompt <tgm4883> longer than on my mythtv box anyway <superm1> hm <tgm4883> (although the mythtv box is a much more powerful computer i would think that my server is adaquit) <tgm4883> the only thing im thinking is a gigabyte nic problem <tgm4883> my gigabyte switch went out so im only hooked up to a 100mb switch, heard bad things about that and auto-negotiation <superm1> cant comment much there myself <rogue780|laptop> my myth server is a 2.0ghz athlon XP with a gig-o-ram and a 350GB hd <rogue780|laptop> it works nice <rogue780|laptop> is there a way to adjust the scan of the actual tuner? my situation is this, when it records a show there is about an 8-12 pixel vertical black bar on the left of the screen. it's in the actual movie file, not just a display issue. <superm1> not afaik. <rogue780|laptop> afaik? <superm1> as far as i know <tgm4883> lol, rogue|laptop, my server is a athlon XP 2000+ with 768 ram and about 700Gb space <tgm4883> pretty similar <rogue780|laptop> my myth server is also my print server, itunes server, file server (samba and nfs), soon to be mail and web server <rogue780|laptop> I just love ubuntu <tgm4883> mine just does file serving right now (printer has built in print server, doesn't work well under ubuntu though) <tgm4883> hopefully soon it will also be a backend slave for mythtv <rogue780|laptop> anyway, my server used to be my windows gaming machine...but the games outpaced it <tgm4883> mine too <tgm4883> its like were the same person <rogue780|laptop> so I made it a mythbox...my second and final attempt before I ditched the effort...and it worked <rogue780|laptop> indeed ;) <tgm4883> now what is an itunes server? just serves other computers your music files or does it do more? <rogue780|laptop> well I have my windows computer, my linux desktop, and my dualbootin' rootin' tootin' windows/ubuntu laptop (I only use the windows side for studying the PFE with PFE gold, and itunes) <rogue780|laptop> and I might want to sync my ipod with any of those computers, or just listen to my music library from any of those computers <rogue780|laptop> so I have my entire (about 15GB) itunes library hosted on my server, and I point itunes to a mapped drive that gives me access to my itunes library from any computer <tgm4883> nice <rogue780|laptop> don't you just *love* it when you think you paid a $700 bill, but the check got lost in the mail, and you spent the money that was supposed to go to the company? <rogue780|laptop> I sure do <rogue780|laptop> NOT <rogue780|laptop> argh. irw is giving me a connection refused error <rogue780|laptop> lirc hates me and always has <williammanda> . <superm1> sort out the tv-out mess williammanda ? <Daviey> did somebody ping me? <bendailey> Anyone have a minute for a newbie mythtv question? <tgm4883_laptop> unless its real quick im leaving for class and will be back in about 3 hours <bendailey> thanks I think I am gong to try some more testing <tgm4883_laptop> class canceled, if you still need help bendailey <bendailey> glad you class was cancelled <tgm4883_laptop> that makes 2 of us <bendailey> my question was about recording size on a defuault mythtv install <tgm4883_laptop> ok <tgm4883> like how big the file sizes are? <bendailey> yeah in about 30 Minutes the recording grew to over 6G <tgm4883> hmm <tgm4883> that seems two large, let me check mine <tgm4883> HD or SD? <bendailey> OTA SD on a Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 with no hw mpeg encoder <tgm4883> oh <tgm4883> hmm <tgm4883> thats way too large <bendailey> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Recording_Parameters that is what I thought <tgm4883> my 1 hour HD recordings are only around 6.6Gb <bendailey> Are you using MPEG4 or RTJPEG? <bendailey> or something else? <tgm4883> well the HD recordings are already compressed <tgm4883> they stream in mpeg2 <bendailey> right so you not transcoding them on the fly just dumping them to disk right? <tgm4883> yea, no need for encoding <tgm4883> although im not sure what happens to my SD now that I think about it <tgm4883> i capture it over firewire <bendailey> Once I get some cash scraped I plan on getting a kworld atsc-110 to get atsc streams which will be mpeg <bendailey> mpeg* mpeg2 <bendailey> SD & HD over firewire? <tgm4883> yea from my STB <bendailey> so your STB is dumping you an mpeg2 stream either way <tgm4883> my SD recordings are only about 1.2Gb for 30 minutes <tgm4883> thats what i figured <bendailey> gtg work calling <bendailey> thanks for the input <tgm4883> np, wish i could help more <Andyman53> Hey all <tgm4883_laptop> hey andyman53 <Andyman53> hey <Andyman53> i can't seem to get myth tv to work with my tv card <Andyman53> i have a hauppague pvr-150 <tgm4883_laptop> what version ubuntu? <Andyman53> the guide shows up empty too, except if i search by show, and neither allow recording <Andyman53> i don't know <tgm4883_laptop> is this a backend/frontend/desktop? <Andyman53> frontend <Andyman53> it's a whole setup <Andyman53> frontend and backend <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so a combined frontend/backend, can you get to a command prompt <Andyman53> yeah <tgm4883_laptop> ok, do "cat /etc/issue" <tgm4883_laptop> and post the output <Andyman53> someone set this up for me <Andyman53> looks like they're running fedora 6 <Andyman53> changed the background :( <tgm4883_laptop> so you have fedora 6? <Andyman53> yeah <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, cant help you much there as im not familiar with that <Andyman53> i see <Andyman53> alright then <Andyman53> bye <tgm4883_laptop> although <tgm4883_laptop> well that was quick <tgm4883_laptop> didn't even get to suggest feisty <rogue780|laptop> lol <rogue780|laptop> coulda at least directed to the myth(TV)ology page <rogue780|laptop> ok I've got lirc issues again <rogue780|laptop> I keep getting this error(sorry for the flood): <rogue780|laptop> ##################################################### <rogue780|laptop> ## I couldn't load the required kernel modules ## <rogue780|laptop> ## You should install lirc-modules-source to build ## <rogue780|laptop> ## kernel support for your hardware. ## <rogue780|laptop> ##################################################### <rogue780|laptop> ## If this message is not appropriate you may set ## <rogue780|laptop> ## LOAD_MODULES=false in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf ## <rogue780|laptop> ##################################################### <rogue780|laptop> here is what I'm doing (IAW the wiki) <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ irw <rogue780|laptop> connect: Connection refused <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ mode2 <rogue780|laptop> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc <rogue780|laptop> mode2: Permission denied <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ sudo mode2 <rogue780|laptop> Password: <rogue780|laptop> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc <rogue780|laptop> mode2: No such device <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ ls /dev | grep lirc <rogue780|laptop> lirc <rogue780|laptop> lircd <rogue780|laptop> lircm <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ <rogue780|laptop> ok now if I do "modprobe lirc_serial" irw doesn't work, but mode2 does <Daviey> ewww lirc <rogue780|laptop> so now that I modprobed the lirc_serial module it how do I make it stay working? <Daviey> rogue780|laptop, i found this guide to be excellent <Daviey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty <rogue780|laptop> that's the one I've been using <rogue780|laptop> I think I may have figured it out...i dunno. I'll have to restart myth and lirc <rogue780|laptop> it's this silly serial receiver that is kinda quirky <william_> what is the script that auto start mythbackend? <Daviey> /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend ? <william_> ty <william_> if i wanted to start a program on boot up...how could I do that? <Daviey> the ubuntu packages should do that for you automatically <Daviey> (or is this non-mythtv)? <william_> yes non myth <Daviey> okay.. what stage do you want it executed? <Daviey> (with gnome) or before? <william_> ? have no idea <william_> i'm using both gnome and kde <Daviey> then you probably need to add it as a runlevel daemon <Daviey> what is the app? <william_> not sure...just trying to understand what I need to do if I want to auto load something at bootup <Daviey> william_, okay.. you have various 'run levels' <Daviey> see them: http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Linux%10UNIX/Linux_Runlevels.html <Daviey> you have /etc/rc0.d - to -- /etc/rc6.d <Daviey> these are the different runlevels <Daviey> but first you need to make a startup/stop script to drop into /etc/init.d/ <Daviey> there is an example in there IIRC <william_> ty #ubuntu-mythtv 2007-05-02 <Daviey> once you have made that script - you can make a symlink in /etc/rc5.d/myapp pointing to /etc/init.d/myapp <Daviey> it's quite simple - any probs - let me know <william_> what if I change the user to me in the mythbackend script? Would it hurt? <william_> is lirc included with 7.04? <william_> guess not according to the mythtv setup site <Daviey> hmm <Daviey> myth backend runs as user mythtv already <william_> i don't do that...i execute mythbackend under my user name <william_> that way I can use other functions <Daviey> such as? <rogue780|laptop> hmm...I wonder if I could use dd to grab input from /dev/video0 <william_> thinks automatically get saved in the directory <william_> things <william_> i'm trying to makes things a simple as possible.....my wife isn't a programmer <william_> i need help trying to figure out why mythbackend isn't starting at boot up <Daviey> william_, you still there? <xreye> Anyone willing to give out a joost invite to a humble videophile? <bendailey> Daviey, has imbrandon been on lately? <Daviey> nope <Daviey> maybe better to email him tbh <Daviey> Is it about the DNS stuff? <bendailey> yeah <bendailey> I sent him an email yesterday afternoon <Daviey> grr <Rtax> ciao <bendailey> hello <tgm4883> hi <Rtax> do any of you guys know why myth would stop recording live tv? <Rtax> I mean if I watched a program, it would be under recorded shows <Daviey> Rtax, is your storage full? <Daviey> livetv expires first <Rtax> now its not unless I specifically record it <Daviey> (standard setting) <Rtax> nope <Rtax> storage has 50gb avail <Daviey> ah, are you sure it's not recording <bendailey> hmmm can you skip around in a show you are watching? <Daviey> could be the filter is set to not show livetv <Rtax> yes that is working <Rtax> aaah <Daviey> in playback <Rtax> probably it <bendailey> right on Daviey beat me to it <Daviey> :) <Daviey> "Show 'LiveTV' recordings when using "All Programs" filter <Rtax> where do I change the filter? <Daviey> TV Settings -> Playback <Daviey> 4th page <Daviey> Rtax, got it? <Rtax> thnx <Rtax> sorted <Daviey> :) <Daviey> bendailey, still no response from imbrandon? <bendailey> Daviey, No response yet <Daviey> :( <bendailey> Well if anyone sees imbrandon ask him to check his email and respond to Ben <bendailey> gtg later <williammanda> has anyone installed the 64 bit version of 7.04? <Daviey> nope <williammanda> back <williammanda> anyone reply while i was gone? <Daviey> nope <williammanda> :) <williammanda> It would be nice to hear some feedback on the 64 bit version <Daviey> mailing list might be better <williammanda> does anyone know if the amd64 is for the 64X2? #ubuntu-mythtv 2007-05-03 <tgm4883> yes <tgm4883> williammanda the amd64 is for all 64 bit processors <tgm4883> and i have the 64 bit version installed on both my mythtv box and my regular desktop <rogue780|laptop> howdy all <tgm4883> howdy <williammanda> question about mysql.txt <williammanda> what is the best way to change the password? <rogue780|laptop> well here's what I understand <rogue780|laptop> you;ll have to get into mysql and change the password for mythtv in the mysql database <rogue780|laptop> then update the mysql.txt file with the password your chose <williammanda> i'm trying to use php <williammanda> but i can't get logged in <williammanda> i use to login as root and no password <williammanda> but it isn't working now <williammanda> i'm confused.... <rogue780|laptop> :-\ <rogue780|laptop> is mysql running? <williammanda> this changes the password for the root user for mysql....mysql -u root mysql <williammanda> yes it is running <rogue780|laptop> had to ask <williammanda> sure <williammanda> seems like there are two users being setup <williammanda> root & mythtv...correct? <rogue780|laptop> tey this <rogue780|laptop> sudo mysqladmin -u user password newpassword <rogue780|laptop> to change the password <rogue780|laptop> wow it's hard to type when you're arm falls asleep <williammanda> sudo mysqladmin -u user password (type pasword or the password) newpassword? <tgm4883> if that doesn't work, you might try this <tgm4883> from this website <tgm4883> http://www.netadmintools.com/art90.html <tgm4883> To reset a root password that you forgot (using paths on our system): <tgm4883> [root@host root] #killall mysqld <tgm4883> [root@host root] #/usr/libexec/mysqld -Sg --user=root & <williammanda> i'm not sure i typed correctly <williammanda> hold on....I want to understand something.... <williammanda> is there two users.....root & mythtv? <rogue780|laptop> william type password then in newpassword put the password you want <rogue780|laptop> yes <rogue780|laptop> root can do anything <rogue780|laptop> mythtv can do almost anything <williammanda> sudo mysqladmin -u mythtv password mythtv? <rogue780|laptop> and the whole mythtv program accesses mysql through the mythtv user <rogue780|laptop> that *should* work <rogue780|laptop> it works on slackware anyway <williammanda> says access denied <rogue780|laptop> hmm...might only work with root then...don't know why it would make a diff though <williammanda> i didn't change the root password <williammanda> i want to change the user mythtv's password to mythtv <williammanda> it generates a random password <williammanda> it would be easier when setting up the other backends <rogue780|laptop> hey to those super people who make the deb packages for mythtv....during setup, give us the option to make our own passwords! <rogue780|laptop> trust me, nobody is going to try to hack my mysql database. and if they do, it isn't the end of the world <williammanda> ok got it working <Daviey> rogue780|laptop, not sure i agree with you about people hacking mysql databases. Reading the knoppmyth and an asterisk forum - many people had them hacked (and modified) because they were left as default passwords <rogue780|laptop> Daviey, those people weren't behind a decent firewall then <Daviey> true <Daviey> but you shouldn't need to be <Daviey> each machine within a lan should be as secure as one on the outside - if somebody get's access to one weak point - they have control over your whole network <rogue780|laptop> people should protect their network with a firewall anyway. * Daviey can't really talk considering one of his mysql database's has user:root password:pa33word <rogue780|laptop> lol <Daviey> rogue780|laptop, true - but with some applications it's necessary to have an exposed mysql database <Daviey> ie remote hosting of mythweb <rogue780|laptop> I dunno. if someone wants to hack my stuff then they will be able to. I'm not that uber leet at security <rogue780|laptop> I just wish I had the option to set my own password when the thing is installing <rogue780|laptop> as it is my mysql db can only be accessed from my network and from no external location <Daviey> rogue780|laptop, i agree - i suspect the next package will give you the option of default (random) or user entered <rogue780|laptop> well I've gotta get to bed <rogue780|laptop> adios <williammanda> wow...rebooted the computer....and I get an error davidhull@example.net.... <williammanda> my resolution is so small I can't read it... <williammanda> i can't get logged in... <williammanda> where can i go to read the error message <tgm4883_laptop> /var/log/messages? <tgm4883_laptop> oh nooo <tgm4883_laptop> anyone seen superm1 around? <williammanda> anyone awake? <williammanda> problem during install... <williammanda> it won't let me partition the last part of the drive <williammanda> says I can't have the beginning befor the end <tgm4883_laptop> are you using the release? <williammanda> yes...superm's <williammanda> oh sorry <williammanda> 64 bit ver <williammanda> i've been trying this for over an hour now <tgm4883_laptop> but your using the release ver, not a beta right? <williammanda> yes the release <tgm4883_laptop> hm <williammanda> i just downloaded today <tgm4883_laptop> did you verify the cd? <williammanda> yes <tgm4883_laptop> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> strange <tgm4883_laptop> i had that problem with the beta, but not the release <williammanda> 64 bit? <williammanda> or 32 bit? <tgm4883_laptop> 64 <tgm4883_laptop> you using the live or alternate cd? <williammanda> live <tgm4883_laptop> id say try alt <williammanda> can i just use the entire disk instead of the 3 partitions? <tgm4883_laptop> you could, but i dont think its recommended <tgm4883_laptop> you could partition it after the install <williammanda> is that hard? <williammanda> can i use the gui? <tgm4883_laptop> yea <tgm4883_laptop> you can use the gui <tgm4883_laptop> just use synaptic to install gparted <tgm4883_laptop> its not hard at all <tgm4883_laptop> is the setup for the auto mythfilldatabase in the frontend setup or the backend setup? <superm1> Frontend <imbrandon> superm1: heya <imbrandon> sup? <superm1> hey imbrandon <superm1> i just wanted to check in about the sending builds off to buildds <superm1> i couldnt stay up the other night, i had a final the next morning <imbrandon> yea i'm still working on that, ive been upgrading all the builds and working on the servers <imbrandon> it will probably be sunday night before i'm 100% done <superm1> ah okay <superm1> well i guess my big question is then, how are things going to be transferred? some sort of dput SERVER thing? <superm1> and then scp back? <imbrandon> nfs <superm1> .... that would make a lot more sense :) <imbrandon> :) <imbrandon> the buildd will just monitor a file and dir on the myth server <superm1> ah okay <imbrandon> i'll fill you in when its all running 100% incase i change something a bit :) <superm1> sounds good <superm1> i've got one more final yet this week, and then i'll be able to put a lot of time in next week to getting content across the site yet too <imbrandon> cool <superm1> okay, bed time for me. have a good one <imbrandon> l8tr <Daviey> imbrandon, ping <imbrandon> Daviey: pong <Daviey> imbrandon, did you receive the email from bendailey? <bendailey> morning <Daviey> morning <Daviey> I pinged imbrandon - he responded, but i wasn't quick enough in asking <Daviey> hopefully he will be back soon <bendailey> Daviey, He sent me the nameservers and they are now changed <Daviey> woo <bendailey> once he adds the A Records to the DNS Server all should be working <bendailey> brb <bendailey> imbrandon, ping <imbrandon> bendailey: pong <imbrandon> heya wasabi <imbrandon> bendailey: great i'll add the records in now, give me a few minutes <bendailey> great thanks <imbrandon> ok records added, now i need to make the servers awnser to it, one sec <imbrandon> ( www.ajaxdns.com has it pointing to the correct ip's now ) <imbrandon> 6585208393 is the ip if you all want to add it to your host file prior to dns propigation <imbrandon> 6585208393 for mail. ) <imbrandon> wow i really need to hook you up with a new logo Daviey hehe <Daviey> :s <Daviey> logo? <imbrandon> ( and a new fav.ico hehe ) <imbrandon> http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/logo.png <Daviey> hehe speak with superm1 bout that :) <imbrandon> bendailey: btw did you want access to the site to help edit it etc? how is all that gonna work out ? <Daviey> woo - the domain works :) * Daviey opens a bottle of water to celebrate <imbrandon> i'd rather keep ssh to myself and superm1 , but drupal admin access i have no problems with , its really superm1's call afaik <imbrandon> anyhow i'll be idle all day <imbrandon> Daviey: ( and all ) i'll be rebooting the box in about 2.5 hours , should be minimal downtime ( 20 minutes MAX , hopefully less ) <imbrandon> for some maintance in the rack ( network cabling etc ) <imbrandon> cool ? <Daviey> yep <Daviey> adding more ram? <Daviey> :) <imbrandon> actualy today just moving some cableing arround and reloading one of my other servers <imbrandon> :) <Daviey> imbrandon, whilst your here - whats up with ubuntuwire? <Daviey> jabber seems down? <imbrandon> btw mail wont work for that domain for 2 or 3 hours untill i update postfix to accept mail for mythbuntu.org ( and add the spam filtering for ubuntuwire.com in too at the same time ) <imbrandon> Daviey: it is, thats the box i'm reloading, give it 5 minutes it will be back up <Daviey> woo - thought i forgot my passwd or something <imbrandon> Daviey: the service is starting now, the jabber should be much more stable after i finish today <imbrandon> jono!!! <imbrandon> :) <jono> hey <imbrandon> heya <imbrandon> hooked up the new webserver for da boyz <imbrandon> :) <imbrandon> jono: see my little hd-dvd audio clips ? hehe <jono> not yet <jono> just logged on <Daviey> imbrandon, was that festival? <imbrandon> hehe check my last post on planet :) <imbrandon> Daviey: at&t tts <Daviey> ahh <rogue780|laptop> howdy <tgm4883_> anyone here stream over firewire from a STB? <imbrandon> not personaly , STB ? <tgm4883_laptop> set top box <tgm4883_laptop> i know majoridiot does, but i haven't seen him around <rogue780|laptop> how do I keep the screensaver from blacking out the screen? <tgm4883_> turn it off :) <rogue780|laptop> how do I keep it from starting? <tgm4883_> just a sec, im looking it up <rogue780|laptop> thanx..for some reason once the screen dies it won't come back up...but if I pull up vnc I can view the screen through vnc, but it still doesn't reinitialize on the tv <tgm4883_> how are you connected to the tv? <Daviey> imbrandon, what do you think my new (beta) logo? <Daviey> that's my gimp impression * Daviey is not an artist <rogue780|laptop> through an rca cable <tgm4883_> rogue780|laptop, go here <tgm4883_> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html <tgm4883_> scroll to <tgm4883_> Screen goes blank but returns when mouse is moved or keyboard is used <rogue780|laptop> sweet thanks <rogue780|laptop> brb <imbrandon> Daviey: much better <Daviey> :) <Daviey> i'm no artist though - not quite happy with the mythtv logo <Daviey> but pleased i was able to extract the blue from offical logo <imbrandon> :) <Daviey> imbrandon, how's the bungee server? <superm1> Daviey, just got your mail <Daviey> :) <Daviey> I'm not artisit <Daviey> site's gone down?! <superm1> wha? <superm1> just worked fine <Daviey> pegasus.imbrandon still works <Daviey> but the domain seems to have stopped working my end <superm1> thats weird. works fine for me. <superm1> i do like that logo though <superm1> i'm wondering if we should update the mythbuntu usplash artwork to use that instead <Daviey> could do <Daviey> tis probably my isp's dns <superm1> i'll add it to the todo list for after my last final is finished up tomorrow <superm1> to experiment a bit with the logo <Daviey> feel free <superm1> hope rogue780 wouldnt get mad about it though <Daviey> looked over your weekly build script <Daviey> why would he? <superm1> well he made the current mythbuntu-artwork-usplash, i just hope he wouldnt be offended by changing it a bit <superm1> i'll see what i come up with with it and then show him and everyone <Daviey> heck, it gone changed from my initial one <superm1> ya good point <superm1> okay so what did you think of the build script? <superm1> did it seem sensible to you? <Daviey> yeah <Daviey> although i really think the repo shouldn't be enabled by default on mythbuntu distro <superm1> oh no definately not <superm1> my only worry with it is that it will always be a higher version number than the one on ubuntu repositories <superm1> which may not be a good thing * Daviey can imagine getting 1000's of emails saying 'it's broke; <Daviey> superm1, it needs to be a higher number - otherwise it won't update :) <superm1> lol <superm1> well i mean the upstream number will always be higher <superm1> rather than appending something like *weekly1 <superm1> or something <Daviey> hmm... can be marked as 0.2199999 <superm1> like that <superm1> well but then again it *will* always be a higher version than on the ubuntu repositories <superm1> so maybe its worthwhile to leave that way <Daviey> yeah suppose so <Daviey> but tbh the mythbuntu packages build from the universe packages anyway - so shouldn't make a difference <superm1> the only problem i'd forsee is a jump between feisty and gutsy for example <Daviey> as long as users know that the packages should be considered unstable and at own risk <superm1> its a bit unpredictable <Daviey> funny... the domain started working again - blame isp <superm1> haha <superm1> well so what were you thinking in terms of navigation at the top right up there? <superm1> i got a few things up that will be important I think <Daviey> agreed <superm1> but we can demote some of them to secondary links <superm1> and/or reorganize <superm1> add others <Daviey> i made a symlink to /var/cache/mythbuntu_build in the www folder <Daviey> just to make looking easyier <Daviey> should probably add a .htaccess file <superm1> well there is a symlink already for resultant builds <Daviey> didn't realise that <Daviey> i made $url/build <Daviey> brb <superm1> /var/www/files/packages -> /var/cache/mythbuntu_build/builds/ <superm1> and that follows whats on the Automatic Weekly Builds Pages <tgm4883> superm1, thanks for recommending the mce remote to me, got it setup yesterday and it almost works great <superm1> "almost" ? :) <tgm4883> lol <tgm4883> yea <tgm4883> i knew about this feature but didn't think about it <tgm4883> was playing gears of war online when i was setting it up <tgm4883> and the power button turns off my xbox 360 <superm1> lol <tgm4883> nothing a little white duct tape wont fix <superm1> i have a buddy with a 360 who noticed the same thing <tgm4883> i knew about that feature but didn't think about how its used with the 360 and all <tgm4883> works good though, seems more responsive than the hauppauge remote <superm1> seriously, one of the few things MS did right: hardware <tgm4883> yep <superm1> did you program your vol+/vol- and power buttons to your other devices? <superm1> the newer mceusb2 remotes support it - and its really really useful <tgm4883> haven't yet, i would need to hook up the ir transmitters right? <superm1> Nope <tgm4883> no? <superm1> the remote can go into learning mode for those 3 buttons <tgm4883> ah <tgm4883> probably in the included instructions that i didn't read <superm1> yup <tgm4883> hmm <superm1> i caught it by accident when i was flipping through them myself <tgm4883> does the ir transmitter work though? <superm1> yup <tgm4883> i may have to hook it up anyway <tgm4883> doog <tgm4883> good <superm1> its really finicky though <superm1> i've only got it working with my receiver <tgm4883> finicky as in? <superm1> doesnt work with my tv <tgm4883> ah <superm1> or other devices <tgm4883> i was hoping to have the windows button switch my different inputs on my tv <superm1> you may or may not be able to <tgm4883> hope so, then i can get rid of all my remotes <superm1> if its a samsung and you do happen to get it to work.... i need a copy of your lircd.conf remote for it <tgm4883> sorry, its a vizio <Rtaxerxes> soooo, superm1, when you got a sec, can you help me get lirc working on feisty with myth? I installed the default packages, put in my old lirc.conf file, but I get nada, and irw opens and closes instantly. But only when you have a sec <superm1> my sammie is mean TO ME <superm1> Rtaxerxes, sure, <superm1> where did you put your lircd.conf <superm1> /etc/lirc ? <superm1> or /etc <Rtaxerxes> etc/lirc <Rtaxerxes> and made a symlink to ~/.myth <Rtaxerxes> or woteva it is <tgm4883> i had a similar problem last night <tgm4883> but irw worked, so it must be different <superm1> thats your trouble <superm1> wait <superm1> you symlinked your lircd.conf to ~/.myth <superm1> are you mixing up your .lircrc and lircd.conf files <Rtaxerxes> don't think so <Rtaxerxes> lemme check <Rtaxerxes> ok, I have .lircrc in my home directory <Rtaxerxes> and no link in .mythtv <Rtaxerxes> might not have done the link yet, ooops <tgm4883> shouldn't .lircrc be in /etc/lirc? <superm1> Na <superm1> .lircrc goes in ~/ <superm1> now that doesnt explain the irw issue <superm1> so your "lircd.conf" is in /etc/lirc <tgm4883> ah <superm1> correct? <Rtaxerxes> so current situation is lirc is installed, lircd.conf has been configured in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf <tgm4883> and lirc started correctly? <Rtaxerxes> and I have the same lircrc that worked in edgy in my home dir <superm1> you started lirc from the init script, correct <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start <Rtaxerxes> lirc starts fine, but irw craqshes immediately <superm1> does lircd crash with it? <tgm4883> did you reboot? <Rtaxerxes> just done a lirc restart, no errors <tgm4883> did you check dmesg for modules that aren't loading? <Daviey> superm1, how did the lirc packages you were doing turn out? <superm1> Daviey, the lirc modules aren't going to be directly added to the kernel it seems, because another team is going to take over that <superm1> so my patch wont go into gutsy (unless they dont finish in time) <superm1> then i'll poke BenC to put it in anyway <superm1> Rtaxerxes, also did you modify /etc/lirc/hardware.conf in any ways? <Daviey> superm1, they should make the general kernel for gutsy? <Rtaxerxes> hmmm, can't remember, lemme check <Daviey> who is dealing with it? <superm1> let me check and see what the name of that team was <tgm4883> Rtaxerxes, did you check your modules per the guide? <superm1> Daviey, the Ubuntu Media Center Team <Rtaxerxes> I think I commented out lircmd <superm1> see bug 69534, the last comment <ubotu> Launchpad bug 69534 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Add lirc to linux-source build tree" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69534 <Rtaxerxes> hmmm which guide? <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty <Daviey> Rtaxerxes, that guide is the *only* one that got it working for me <Rtaxerxes> Cause I ran the ubuntuguide.com guide in edgy to run a serial transmitter and it didn't work. <Rtaxerxes> Do I need to do all the kernel modules for feisty too? <superm1> Rtaxerxes, yes you do <superm1> if you havent rebuilt your kernel modules in feisty, things wont work <superm1> ubuntuguide.org doesnt have an entry on lirc afaik <Rtaxerxes> aaargh, that's a downer for feisty. Everything else was so smooth... <Rtaxerxes> ok, i'll do it <Rtaxerxes> go Gutsy <superm1> Rtaxerxes, that above bug was filed with ample time for my patch to build lirc on the kernel build, but it got overlooked by the kernel guys unfortunately <superm1> and by the time they came to it, it was too ltae <Rtaxerxes> so maybe in Gutsy, they'll pay attention. Anything I can do? Whine on any forums? <Daviey> superm1, how frustrating! I feel the same with mythtv-usplash-theme. Don't know why that didn't make feisty/universe <Daviey> corrected all the points raised <Rtaxerxes> where is this splash you been talking about? Can I have a look? <tgm4883> and the slight overlook on the pcHDTV 5500 <superm1> Rtaxerxes, http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/mythbuntu-artwork-usplash-0704250310/mythbuntu-artwork-usplash-0.1/usplash_1024_768.png <superm1> Daviey, the thing is you have to stay on top of things at the last minute like that <superm1> which is hard to do :) <superm1> tgm4883, you mean the cx88_dvb issue? <tgm4883> yea <superm1> well we knew about that before feisty release, but the guys working on it didnt have a fix for it by then <superm1> the v4l-dvb guys <tgm4883> ah <tgm4883> isn't much of a problem anyway <tgm4883> really minor fix <tgm4883> pretty easy <superm1> but pretty annoying nonetheless :) <Daviey> whats the work around? <superm1> adding cx88_dvb to /etc/modules <Daviey> ahh <superm1> Daviey, i made the logo into a favicon for the site too <Daviey> :) <Daviey> imbrand0n whinged about that aswell :) <superm1> haha <Daviey> still think the logo needs something <Daviey> it's a nuisance that the mythtv logo isn't more square <superm1> did you do that a svg <superm1> or xcf? <superm1> that can be better scaled than a png <Daviey> i thought about the mythtv logo going directly over the top but the 'pips' on the ubuntu logo are in the way <Daviey> yeah xcf <superm1> here maybe i should scp the xcf that is currently used for the usplash <Daviey> but the ubuntu logo came from a png <superm1> and you can play with it a bit <Daviey> thats the first file i have DCC'd over IRC in years! <superm1> lol <superm1> its probably best to scale it up to 1024x768 initially and then scale down only for the resultant images <Daviey> okay <Daviey> hmm <Daviey> do you know what font he used? <superm1> na <superm1> and he isnt on gtalk right now, so cant easily find out <Daviey> sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title :) <bendailey> is there a default package list around for mythbuntu? <Daviey> not quite yet <bendailey> ok <bendailey> how thin are you attempting to make it? <Daviey> their won't be an offical mythbuntu package until gutsy :( <Daviey> <------------------> this thin <Daviey> :) <bendailey> don't you plan on releasing isos before gutsy? <Rtaxerxes> superm1: done the guide, but irw doesn't read the remotes, or anything. I haven't rebooted yet tho. <superm1> Rtaxerxes, when you modprobe your lirc modules, you should see them show up in dmesg <superm1> bendailey, the big thing we are trying to do is keep packages that arent put in multiverse/universe minimal <superm1> so this artwork will go into universe <superm1> and hopefully our ubiquity will as well <Rtaxerxes> I got lirc_dev: IR_remote control driver registered at major 61 <superm1> whats your other module? <superm1> lirc_mceusb, lirc_mceusb2, lirc_serial etc <Rtaxerxes> lirc_i2c no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted <superm1> i2c okay <superm1> thats fine then, your modules are loading <Rtaxerxes> also got: lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x71 <Rtaxerxes> lirc_dev lirc_register_plugin: sample rate: 10 <superm1> okay to i2c is working then <bendailey> can somebody give mission statement/goal/timeline for the project? or a url? <superm1> so now after restarting lircd, things still dont work <Rtaxerxes> well irw doesn't read anything, and that is first step, right? <superm1> https://launchpad.net/mythbuntu <superm1> well you restarted lircd after loading the modules though right? <Rtaxerxes> yep <Rtaxerxes> did a killall lircd <superm1> so after irw crashes, do you still have that lircd process alive? <superm1> or does it die too <Rtaxerxes> irw doesn't die <superm1> okay - so progress then <superm1> it was dying before <Rtaxerxes> yep <Daviey> superm1, dcc it back? <superm1> sure <superm1> i should be able to on campus no troubles <Daviey> slightly different - i put the 'm' inside <superm1> hm yea i can see <Daviey> and removed it from the title <Daviey> what do you think? <superm1> well now i'm thinking that bottom part might be unnecessary <superm1> the powered by stuff <Daviey> i need to cook, be back in an hour or so <superm1> ok <superm1> bendailey, whats your email, i'll add you onto the website to help with content if you'd like <superm1> pm me it <DaveMorris> evening guys <Daviey> hey DaveMorris <Daviey> This is DaveMorris - he's a fellow ubunter, and wants to help with the mythbuntu effort <DaveMorris> I'm willing to help in the testing stages mainly <Daviey> (such a warm welcome, eh?) <Daviey> superm1, ping <superm1> hey Daviey <superm1> Hi DaveMorris <superm1> sorry guys i need to run and grab some lunch <superm1> i'll speak more later on <superm1> DaveMorris, glad to have you jumping onboard <Daviey> superm1, had a word with juski earlier. He is doing a presentation at 'Lug Radio Live' - he's going to plug us :) <superm1> hell yea :) <Daviey> catch you later superm1 <Andyman53> Hey all <Andyman53> i have a quick question....my guide data doesn't match up to my channels....the guide data is two channels off from the actual channels <Andyman53> what do i do about that? <DaveMorris> #mythtv-users might be more helpful <Andyman53> heh <Andyman53> didn't see that chan <Andyman53> thx a mill <DaveMorris> I think its hidden #ubuntu-mythtv 2007-05-04 <tgm4883_laptop> anyone use mytharchive or mythvideo? <Daviey> mythvideo yes <Daviey> mytharchieve is boke 4 me <Daviey> vroke <Daviey> bloody fingers <Daviey> BROKE <tgm4883_laptop> so it works for you ;) <tgm4883_laptop> do you use the internel player for mythvideo? <Daviey> yes <Daviey> prefer it persoannly <tgm4883_laptop> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> im having trouble with it <tgm4883_laptop> is there a log file for mythvideo? <Daviey> is it appearing at all? <tgm4883_laptop> yea and i can play my dvd iso's in it, but not avi or wmv <Daviey> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> and im pretty sure i installed those codecs <Daviey> don't think you need to <Daviey> in mythvideo settings - do you have custom player seetings for different filetypes? <tgm4883_laptop> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> well mpg says "internal" under command <tgm4883_laptop> default not checked <Daviey> ahh <Daviey> there is your problem <Daviey> you need "Internal" <Daviey> cap I <tgm4883_laptop> avi has default checked <tgm4883_laptop> err, my bad <tgm4883_laptop> has the cap I <Daviey> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> should avi be the default player? and have anything under command? <Daviey> yeah <tgm4883_laptop> cause its the only one thats different <Daviey> if default player = Internal <tgm4883_laptop> (well i dont have an entry for wmv) * tgm4883_laptop shrugs <Daviey> then it doesn't matter if you have it ticked or type Internal as a custom player <tgm4883_laptop> ok <tgm4883_laptop> i think the default is Internal <tgm4883_laptop> im looking through the menus where would i find the default player? <Daviey> Setup->Media Settings->video settings <Daviey> Player settings <tgm4883_laptop> ok so that is the default player that its talking about <Daviey> yes <tgm4883_laptop> which is also the internal player? <Daviey> Internal :) <tgm4883_laptop> Internal player <tgm4883_laptop> I gotta remember that <tgm4883_laptop> which is mplayer <Daviey> change that to 'Internal' <Daviey> (with no parameters) <tgm4883_laptop> Internal <tgm4883_laptop> not mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s <tgm4883_laptop> awesome, it plays <Daviey> :) <tgm4883_laptop> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> i suppose i need to make an entry for wmv <tgm4883_laptop> as it just crashed my frontend <Daviey> don't know if Internal supports wmv <Daviey> that will probably need a 'custom' setting of mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s * Daviey has never needed to play wmv <Daviey> you also won't be able to play MKV or DV files using the Internal player <tgm4883_laptop> guess not <tgm4883_laptop> i will just rerip them <Daviey> hmm <tgm4883_laptop> i encoded those back when i was trying to use my 360 to play movies <Daviey> why re-encode them? <tgm4883_laptop> theres not that many <Daviey> and not just have a File Association for those that Internal can't support <Daviey> Each time you encode a video it is inevitable that there will be a slight loss in quality <Daviey> YMMV <tgm4883_laptop> true, but not if i rerip from the dvd <tgm4883_laptop> well <Daviey> fair nuff <tgm4883_laptop> i will lose quality from the dvd <Daviey> didn't realise you had the dvd <tgm4883_laptop> yes, i am one of the few that still owns his dvd's yet keeps them on his server <Daviey> Anyway - i'm off to bed <Daviey> ttfn <tgm4883_laptop> thanks Daviey <tgm4883_laptop> c-ya <williammanda> help! <williammanda> i can't login into phpadmin <williammanda> user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password <williammanda> wake up! <williammanda> mega...do you know anything about phpadmin... <williammanda> i can't login into phpadmin <williammanda> user = root & password = blank.....i didn't change the root password <rogue780> hey <rogue780> I've got a problem that noone in #ubuntu seems to know how to help with, or wants to help with or whatnot <rogue780> I'm having a problem with apt <Daviey> shoot <rogue780> I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help <rogue780> I may have just fixed it though <rogue780> testing it as we type <Daviey> sorted? <Daviey> evenin' <DaveMorris> evening <rogue780> sorted? <rogue780> nope problem not fixed <Daviey> sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player <rogue780> nope <rogue780> can I flood? <rogue780> http://www.pastebin.ca/471167 <Daviey> pastebin would be better <DaveMorris> grrr, I can't change the topic <Daviey> sudo apt-get remove --purge --force vmware-player ? <Daviey> DaveMorris, why do you want to? <DaveMorris> can someone that can, please put it a title and a link to paste bin <DaveMorris> maybe a link to the site, and a msg saying the channel is logged, now we have the bot in here <Daviey> should do really <Daviey> i'm not an op <Daviey> :`( <DaveMorris> dislikes channels where you need to be an op to change topic <rogue780> there do be no force option <Daviey> rogue780, sorry try -f <rogue780> did that too <rogue780> same problem <DaveMorris> whats the problem? <rogue780> is there a cache file somewhere that I can just delete a line from and make apt forget vmware exists? i want to use vmware...but I want to use apt without it hanging for several minutes too <rogue780> <rogue780> I'm having an problem with APT. I installed vmware-player an every time since when I try to use apt to install anything it tried to continue installing vmware. I've tried removing vmware and I get the same problem. I don't know what to do. the apt output is at http://www.pastebin.ca/471116 please help <Daviey> sudo dpkg --force-remove vmware-player ? <rogue780> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove' <rogue780> -r <DaveMorris> I had this problem at work, now how did I solve it <Daviey> DaveMorris, i had exactly the same problem with vmplayer! <Daviey> sudo aptitude -f remove vmware-player <rogue780> also...anyone know where I can find a file with the boot-up text that's under uslpash? * Daviey is always getting confused between aptitude and apt-get <rogue780> well it's simple apt-get has super cow powers and aptitude doesn't have super cow powers <rogue780> nope, won't let me remove <DaveMorris> its something like dpkg --purge --force <package-name> <rogue780> !@#! <DaveMorris> rogue780: Still dosen't work <rogue780> neg <DaveMorris> I assume you tried what I gave with remove instead of purge <Daviey> apt-get --fix-broken install vmware-player ? * Daviey is looking at the source for his favourite apt wrapper <rogue780> no luck. it's the damn configuration of vmware... <rogue780> aQE!@#EFEREBVWRQage@$@#$!$!@#!!!! <tgm4883_laptop> would the clean switch help? <rogue780> clean was the first thing I tried <tgm4883_laptop> ah <rogue780> but that just goes to show great minds think alike <rogue780> too bad this mind doesn't have super cow powers <tgm4883_laptop> you installed from the repos right? <rogue780> yes <rogue780> hey, lil off topic of our offtopic...but have ya'll heard of the alky project? <rogue780> http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/ <tgm4883_laptop> have you tried using dselect? <rogue780> tried....got confused <tgm4883_laptop> what part? <rogue780> it's just new...wasn't sure what to do <tgm4883_laptop> ok, what if you forced the install to get past the errors, then uninstalled? <rogue780> so sudo apt-get install -f vmware-player? <tgm4883_laptop> actually i dont think apt-get has a force install command <tgm4883_laptop> i think you need to download the same version of vmplayer in a .deb file (probably just use the download switch of apt-get) then force the install through dpkg <rogue780> I'm just going to light my laptop on fire <rogue780> give it a viking funeral <rogue780> do you know where apt-get keeps the record of what it's trying to install? if I can just remove references to vmware from it, it should fix my problem <rogue780> since vmware works when I use it...it just boggs down apt when I try to use that <Daviey> aptitude has force <rogue780> brb <tgm4883_laptop> as i dont' have any partially installed packages to verify this, and I am in no way affilliated with the developers of apt, I can not support this or what you do with it <tgm4883_laptop> but check /var/cache/apt <rogue780> rgr <rogue780> worst comes to worst I'll reinstall feisty <tgm4883_laptop> ok then, as long as you have a plan <tgm4883_laptop> id check out /var/cache/apt/archives/partial first <tgm4883_laptop> Is there something that we could do to make myth-frontend not require mythtv-backend AND not need a backend available on the network? <tgm4883_laptop> or would that fall farther upstream? <tgm4883_laptop> ha, just the guy to ask
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