#ubuntu-java 2005-06-23 <fabbione> ok.. logs will be available from now on... they will start appearing on the server in not less than one hour <fabbione> enjoy :) <wasabi_> So, 3.1 really isn't that much better. <wasabi_> Basically they just moved stuff around and introduced a whole new set of packging problems. <wasabi_> Hey. Should .db files be put into share or lib by packages? <wasabi_> I'm about to actually start using this stuff for real packages. <jbailey> Lemme check FHS <jbailey> Hold on, the db files? <jbailey> Not the .so files? <jbailey> .so files should be in /usr/lib/... <jbailey> db files are generated at install time, right? <wasabi_> Nope. <wasabi_> The .db files will be distributed in each package and put into a central dir. <wasabi_> And the postinst will regenerage the main db file in /var/lib <wasabi_> regenerate <wasabi_> /usr/share/gcj-4.0/classmaps.d/packagename.db or something <wasabi_> I am uncertain if that should be in /usr/share or /usr/lib though, as it refers directly to .so files. <jbailey> The best thing is to generate one on two different arch's and see if they're exactly the same. <wasabi_> Check #gcj on OFTC. <wasabi_> Interesting point. <wasabi_> How do we deal with multiarch? <wasabi_> jbailey, converting Eclipse to cdbs. Need some assistance. <wasabi_> I have a fairly elaborate "configure" step. <wasabi_> configur33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab prepare-stamp should make cdbs call my prepare-stamp target right? <wasabi_> Just using debhelper.mk.... <wasabi_> Oh I guess that should be pre-build? <jbailey> pre-build is probably the best choice if you can. <jbailey> I need to know more about what you're doing to guess properly, though. <wasabi_> extracting the source, applying patches. <jbailey> There's a target apply-patches33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab you can use. =) <wasabi_> Is that part of debhelper.mk? <wasabi_> I can't use a built in patch system. <jbailey> Nope, it's part of buildcore <wasabi_> Since I have a custom one that works per eclipse plugin <wasabi_> okay cooll <wasabi_> Does this thing manage stamp files? <jbailey> No. =( <wasabi_> Eclipse takes so freaking long. <jbailey> That's a major deficiancy in cdbs atm. <wasabi_> I have it split into a bunch of pieces just to make debugging easier <wasabi_> I think I'll just hang my current stuff off of it then. <jbailey> Probably best. <wasabi_> Heh this is odd. <wasabi_> I have these packages: <wasabi_> eclipse-sdk and eclipse-platform and a bunch more. <wasabi_> eclipse-sdk is Arch: all. <wasabi_> eclipse-platform is arch: any <wasabi_> Hmmm. I need the build process to happen before either are installed. <wasabi_> Right now it looks like it's trying to do arch indep stuff first, before it goes down my build process. <wasabi_> I would have expected build/eclips33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab to happen before any package, arch dep or indep. <wasabi_> Maybe I'm not using build/eclipse right. <wasabi_> How do I add a build target that is required for ALL packages? <jbailey> You're crawling into the cobweb ridden corners of cdbs here, and alot of the motivation for cdbs2. =( <wasabi_> hehe. <jbailey> (And stuff tha tI have to look up to get right, justasec) <jbailey> common-build-arch33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab might be a good choice. <wasabi_> Ah. <jbailey> Honestly, I avoid the PASS/PACKAGE stuff as much as I can. <wasabi_> -indep stuff too? <jbailey> It was a neat idea implemented poorly. <jbailey> Yup, it's there. <jbailey> Although in practice -arch is fine. <wasabi_> I like it. If nothing else it lets you seperate code easier. <jbailey> It's always called. <jbailey> Right, except that people don't build their packages cleanly along the lines of their packages. <wasabi_> and provides a bit of self documentation <jbailey> cdbs2 introduces build passes that you can name explicitely. <jbailey> And packaging passes that are based on the package names. <wasabi_> Still didn't work. <wasabi_> common-build-arch33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab build-eclipse-compile-stamp build-eclipse-install-stamp <wasabi_> common-build-arch-indep33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab build-eclipse-compile-stamp build-eclipse-install-stamp <wasabi_> But neither of those were called before debhelper started running for eclipse-sdk <jbailey> common-build-indep <wasabi_> There we go. <wasabi_> This does help. It makes the code easier to follow. <wasabi_> How about a recommendation on how to "install" eclipse. Which steps go where? Right now I have the build targets building the eclipse.tar.gz file <wasabi_> That's how the eclipse upstream build system works. It ends up with a tar.gz <wasabi_> Then, in the install portion I "install" the .tar.gz to debian/tmp. <wasabi_> Basically just extracting it. <wasabi_> But then I have to move lots of pieces between different packages... and take debian/extras, shell scripts and stuff, and put them in the right place. <wasabi_> Should I be installing the extras into debian/tmp and then relying on dh_install to move them to the right package? <jbailey> Well, dh_install can reach into the debian/extras directory directly. <jbailey> So there's no need to move them to debian/tmp first. <wasabi_> But then I have some which require preprocessing <wasabi_> like debian/extras/eclipse.png.uu <jbailey> Right. Can you do those in the build phase somewhere? <wasabi_> Is that what's proper? <jbailey> Move those into tmp. <jbailey> I like to do all munging and such in the build phase. <jbailey> It means that if I stamp that off, I'm done. I don't have to waste time doing any munging again. <wasabi_> sounds good <wasabi_> So build the .pong in build, but don't copy it to debian/tmp until install (where it's handled by dh_install) <jbailey> Right. That means that you can always blow away debian/tmp and just redo the build from install. <jbailey> Probably nice in the case of eclipse. <wasabi_> oh yes. <wasabi_> heh. <wasabi_> it's a 30 minute compile. <jbailey> Ouch. =) <wasabi_> It uses about 900MB of space. <wasabi_> During build. <jbailey> We use tricks like that for the glibc build. <jbailey> When working on packaging, you *Really* don't want to have to rebuild it. <jbailey> How much of eclipse is C/C++ code? <wasabi_> Very little actually. <jbailey> Ah, too bad. <jbailey> Otherwise ccache might have sped the build up somewhat. <wasabi_> yeah. =( <wasabi_> can dh_install move files? <wasabi_> Like, I want usr/share/eclipse/eclipse to be moved to usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse <wasabi_> and then use dh_link to link it back <wasabi_> Dislike managing that stuff manually. <jbailey> Umm. <jbailey> I don't think it can. <wasabi_> make confuses me <wasabi_> common-install-arch33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab install-eclipse-stamp <wasabi_> yet when I run debian/rules common-install-arch, it repeats it. <wasabi_> even though install-eclipse-stamp exists #ubuntu-java 2005-06-24 <wasabi_> dh_install -peclipse-platform <wasabi_> cp: cannot stat `./usr/share/eclipse/eclipse': No such file or directory <wasabi_> Hmm. Unable to figure out exactly what's up with this. <wasabi_> That file clearly exists in debian/tmp <wasabi_> But it is a symlink. <wasabi_> Well this is great. At some random point my Eclipse build started locking up. <jbailey> The machine or just the build? <wasabi_> the build. <wasabi_> <target name="install.eclipse.tar"> <wasabi_> <apply executable="tar" dir="${buildDirectory}"> <wasabi_> <arg value="-xzf" /> <wasabi_> <fileset dir="${buildDirectory}/${buildLabel}"> <wasabi_> That just eats 100% cpu <wasabi_> That's interesting. <wasabi_> I think that runs an external executable. <jbailey> Does top show anything useful? <wasabi_> shows "java' at the top. Doesn't even get to tar. <wasabi_> Hmm. <wasabi_> Maybe tar is in there just not at the top * wasabi_ reruns <wasabi_> I think I have the 3.1 packages set up to build for ia64 pretty easily. <wasabi_> I basically took my existing 3.0 packages and am reworking them for 3.1 with cdbs. <wasabi_> I'm going to ignore man-di's. <wasabi_> Hmm this is interesting. <wasabi_> install.eclipse.tar is running... <wasabi_> but it's paused <wasabi_> and I think the spinning CPU is java waiting for it to exit. <jbailey> Any way to see what it's doing? <wasabi_> I added v to the tar options. <wasabi_> Looks like tar has exited <wasabi_> [apply] eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.ui.workbench.compatibility_3.1.0/compatibility.jar <wasabi_> that's the last line. I assume the last line tar printed. <wasabi_> hmmm. <wasabi_> GMMM #ubuntu-java 2005-06-27 <rtcm> I've managed to put the packaged eclipse in breezy to run but I'm getting some crashes... it's to be expected right? <wasabi_> Well, it shouldn't be. What crashes? <rtcm> I'm running it with java-gcj-compat <rtcm> importing some source code <rtcm> while it's compiling <wasabi_> what type of crash is it, a total VM crash? <wasabi_> Or an unhandled exception? <rtcm> vm crash <wasabi_> Might want to file a bug. ;0 <rtcm> i'm running it again <rtcm> being universe the correct place is malone right? <wasabi_> Eh. No clue. ;) <flikker> hello <wasabi_> Hello. <flikker> having an applet problem <flikker> when i run it <flikker> it displays this <flikker> java.security.AccessControlException <flikker> indeed my code is creating a file <flikker> but at the moment i am only testing my applet how do i go about this <flikker> wasabi <flikker> ? <wasabi_> sorry back <wasabi_> What VM are you using for this? <flikker> np did you read <flikker> ? <flikker> i am on windows <wasabi_> Ah you are in #ubuntu-java because? <flikker> sorry <flikker> i figure <wasabi_> I'm just not sure how it relates. ;) <wasabi_> I don't mind helping.. you're probably doing something the SM refuses. <flikker> well i did not think it was related to the os i was using <wasabi_> It's probalby not, but this channel is about Ubuntu Java development. <flikker> o is see <wasabi_> Ubuntu being a Linux distribution, trying to integrate Free JVMs <wasabi_> You are probably doing something the security manager dislikes. <flikker> i know ubuntu not because i am using win that i dont use linux have used ubuntu by the way <flikker> yes writing a sound file <flikker> any idea <wasabi_> An applet cannot usually read or write local files. <wasabi_> Without being signed and given full access. <wasabi_> Applets run in a sandbox. <flikker> where do i set this premissions <wasabi_> You don't. <flikker> in the webbrowser or the vm <wasabi_> Whatever controls the VM. <wasabi_> And you cannot just set the permissions. <flikker> hu? <flikker> example i was doing this in linux and ran this applet as root <wasabi_> http://ntrg.cs.tcd.ie/undergrad/4ba2.96/group2/applets.html <flikker> would i be able <wasabi_> no. <wasabi_> There are security considerations with running code from the internet. <flikker> then where or better what is causing me not to write a file on myone harddrive <wasabi_> The VM is causing that. <wasabi_> It is designed to. <wasabi_> You are not supposed to do that. <flikker> now there is something you should understand <wasabi_> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=637043&tstart=0 <flikker> i am trying to write serverside <wasabi_> Applet's are not server side. <flikker> in that case <wasabi_> http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/java-ent/jnut/ch05_04.htm <flikker> wasabi now the worse case is that i did not write this code myself <flikker> i am using it as an example to learn <flikker> http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/2105421 <wasabi_> You'd be better not writing your audio to a file. <wasabi_> An Applet is not supposed to be able to access the local system. It's really much better to be transiant. <wasabi_> It can be done, but it introduces a whole host of issues. <flikker> under which conditions <wasabi_> I don't understand. <flikker> well if i see a tut on the net telling me that i can do it <wasabi_> You don't. <flikker> explaining how <wasabi_> You see a tut saying you can do it FOR A LOCAL APPLICATION <wasabi_> Not for an Applet. <flikker> fair enough <flikker> wasabi did you say this is impossible with an applet writing to the system <wasabi_> No. <wasabi_> I said it opens a whole host of issues. <wasabi_> An applet can be granted full permission. <flikker> ok under which conditions <wasabi_> To do so the applet must be signed by a certificate recognized as trusted by the local system. <wasabi_> http://java.sun.com/security/signExample/ <flikker> ok i have seen that, in this case you need to creat a certificate in the vm right? <wasabi_> You need to create a certificate. You need to sign your applet's .jar files with that certificate, and then install the public key of the certificate to every client machine. <flikker> thanks for the explanation that is all for now <wasabi_> No problem. Try Ubuntu. ;) <flikker> have been that it is to croudy #ubuntu-java 2005-06-28 <doko> wasabi: any reason why you put all the gjdoc jar's in one jar file? <wasabi> doko, because that's what upstream said they wanted to do with it, but never got around to it. <wasabi> And how it was originally. <doko> ahh, ok. I left the jar files for the current upload. doesn't hurt <wasabi> I need to talk to upstream about that. <wasabi> The names they choose are... weird. <wasabi> Totally defy conventions for every other java package #ubuntu-java 2006-06-02 <IBM_X31> @@ <IBM_X31> @_@ #ubuntu-java 2006-06-11 <balld> Hello everyone! Can someone tell me the proper way to download or rather install the JDK libraries under Kubuntu..I have already downloaded the files, but it's in a rpm.bin file version and I'm really not sure how to extract/compile that file, or even if I have the right software already installed to do the job. <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do? <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do? #ubuntu-java 2006-06-12 <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do? #ubuntu-java 2006-06-13 <Guest298> Hi <Guest298> Anyone know why on some website, my browser close just after loading a Java page that work on my Windows machine ? <Guest298> I did a fresh install #ubuntu-java 2006-06-15 <the_Kane> hey <doko> hi tmarble <tmarble> doko: guten tag! <tmarble> you will be glad to know that I (almost) have a complete Ubuntu mirror built up within the Sun global internet <doko> woot! <doko> how's _07 going? <tmarble> for some reason our rsync's can only do about 2 GB at a time? <tmarble> in any case it's almost ready <tmarble> the DLJ bundles for _07 were *almost* ready for release.... I have proposed some somewhat aggressive changes to the README <tmarble> to explicitly enable the very creative (and cool) packaging that you have done, doko, for Java <tmarble> as part of the process the committee wanted to wait until we had peer review from a person who, unfortunately is on vacation <doko> ahh, until when? <tmarble> that person is due to return monday 6/19.... However, in the meantime, I have submitted my changes for peer review <tmarble> to one of the senior technical people within the Java organization... he told me that he would be able to begin his review <tmarble> yesterday.. I have not heard anything back yet. <tmarble> I'm sorry for the delay <doko> and any news about the differing class files in rt.jar? <tmarble> doko, you previously mentioned running chroot environments.... I'm wondering if you do this, for example, to test things (prospective packaging) <tmarble> on edgy while running in dapper (for example) <tmarble> no news on rt.jar... I will see what I can do today about that <doko> install dchroot and debootstrap, debootstrap from http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ <tmarble> so you are saying "yes, that's the way to test java on edgy"? <doko> I think, that's the best way without upgrading your host environment to edgy, which will be broken very soon ... <tmarble> great.. thanks for the clarification <tmarble> btw... are you going to Paris next week? <doko> run: debootstrap edgy /srv/chroot/edgy <doko> yes, I'll be there <tmarble> regrettably this is not the summer I go to France :-( <doko> then in /etc/fstab add <doko> proc /org/chroot/edgy32/proc proc defaults,auto 0 0 <doko> devpts /org/chroot/edgy32/dev/pts devpts defaults,auto 0 0 <doko> /home /org/chroot/edgy32/home none rw,bind 0 0 <doko> /tmp /org/chroot/edgy32/tmp none rw,bind 0 0 <doko> (using the correct paths ...) <doko> add the edgy chroot in /etc/dchroot.conf <doko> mount -a <tmarble> so is /srv/chroot/edgy the filesystem on the HOST (e.g. Dapper) where the chroot is to be installed? <doko> then copy /etc/resolv.conf into /src/chroot/edgy/etc/ <tmarble> and, if so, how much space do you usually use? <tmarble> FWIW I usually use resolvconf <doko> yes, space: what you install in that chroot ;) <tmarble> hehe <doko> you might want to install libnss-db on both the host and the chroot to keep user information in sync <tmarble> ok, cool <tmarble> [OT] how is the python packaging thing going with Debian? <doko> going forward ... <tmarble> great #ubuntu-java 2006-06-23 <tmarble> bonjour tous... how is the conference in Paris going? #ubuntu-java 2006-06-24 <jerometao> <jerometao> hi <jerometao> anybody here ? #ubuntu-java 2006-06-26 <xgtox5> can someone help me <xgtox5> hello <xgtox5> ANY ONE <xgtox5> Any 1 here can help me with my prblem <xgtox5> on ubuntu <xgtox5> PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU <xgtox5> OMG <xgtox5> forget it your all jerks ill get help somewere else #ubuntu-java 2006-06-28 <bombero> hi <bombero> how to install java-plugin for firefox ? <bombero> in adept i see java light-grey <bombero> how to activate it ? #ubuntu-java 2007-06-01 <Null-Kuhl> hii <jamesstansel1> hi Null-Kuhl <Null-Kuhl> oh finally <Null-Kuhl> why is this room so silent :0 <Null-Kuhl> :) #ubuntu-java 2007-06-02 <balarka> hi <balarka> cle <balarka> cls <balarka> clear <man-di> balarka: this IRC, neither a terminal, nor a DOS shell <man-di> AND DONT TRY TO SPEAK PRIVATELY TO ME FOR NO REASON <H> hola <man-di> hello <H> i use konversation for irc. anyone knows why i cant join the ##java channel? <man-di> ask the konversation developers <man-di> perhaps its the double ## (which is quite uncommon) <H> i have found the problem, i need to ve identified <man-di> ah <H> anyway, thx :) #ubuntu-java 2007-06-03 <jaiderfercho27> buenas #ubuntu-java 2007-06-05 * #ubuntu-java [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-java.log <black_angel> #ubuntu-java 2007-06-07 <rodrigo> hola <man-di> moin <rodrigo> les puedo aser una consulta <rodrigo> como instalo java en ubuntu? <rodrigo> cual es el comando <man-di> please speak english <AfC> man-di: maybe you should put `apt-get install sun-jdk-1.6` or whatever into the topic. Might answer that fellow's question. <man-di> AfC: a FAW would be better. There are more such repeating questions <man-di> FAQ <man-di> ENOCOFFEE <jstansel_> the current sun-java6 package is version 6-00-2ubuntu2 - is that java 6u2? <man-di> no <man-di> its 6 <man-di> 6u1 is in preparation <tmarble> IcedTea is live: FFI: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openjdk.distro-packaging.devel/5 <apetrescu> Hey, guys; would anyone happen to know why Java Web Start 6.0 on Kubuntu 7.04 is suddenly refusing to validate almost any webstart app I give it? <apetrescu> They used to work fine but on this install I've had three apps so far fail to load due to: <apetrescu> un.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path validation failed: java.security.cert.CertPathValidatorException: <apetrescu> Any ideas? <man-di> apetrescu: are you sure SUN JDK is used? <apetrescu> Hm <apetrescu> It *should* be sun-jdk <apetrescu> Let me check update-alternatives output <apetrescu> (But all the splash screens looked right) <man-di> update-java-alternatives <apetrescu> adrian@adrian-desktop:~$ sudo update-java-alternatives -l <apetrescu> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun <apetrescu> adrian@adrian-desktop:~$ sudo update-alternatives --list javaws <apetrescu> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws <apetrescu> So, yeah, I do seem to be using Sun's JDK. <apetrescu> Any other ideas? Anyone? =/ <man-di> nope, sorry <apetrescu> Alright, I'll make a forum post about it in that case :) Thanks anyway! <apetrescu> Here 'tis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2801120 #ubuntu-java 2007-06-08 <apetrescu> Not much action in this here channel, eh? =P <leonel> are somebody working on icetea for ubuntu ? <leonel> or making openjdk work in ubuntu like icetea > <leonel> ? <tmarble> leonel: yes man-di over on FreeNode #debian-java is working these things for Debian.... <tmarble> and i'm going to be working on OpenJDK for Debian/Ubuntu (in general) <leonel> tmarble: If I can help ... let me know <tmarble> leonel: are you a MOTU? <leonel> motu wannabe :) <tmarble> like me :) <leonel> i'm learning to merge and patch packages in universe always sponsored <leonel> working now patching clamav <tmarble> perhaps the main thing, now, is to track the mailing list: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openjdk.distro-packaging.devel/5 -- you can subscribe at: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/ <tmarble> you will see a post by David Herron that highlights the differences in Fedora vs. Debian conventions on jar naming... that's certainly one issue <tmarble> another issue is a fairly new version of gcj is required -- the version in feisty does *not* work... i haven't checked gutsy or what's in debian upstream recently, however <man-di> tmarble: my stuff works on recent enough Ubuntu too ;-) <man-di> tmarble: I have the same problems as you, class not found exception <tmarble> man-di: it's tricky to debug because of the possible runtimes used (well, it's the bootstrap runtime) and the XML library (is it inside the runtime somewhere?) <man-di> tmarble: xalan should be on the classpath, not inside the runtime, afaik <tmarble> ok #ubuntu-java 2007-06-09 <man-di> hello tashiro <man-di> tashiro: how are you? <tashiro> hi man-di <tashiro> fine! <tashiro> man-di: where was the debian java channel again? <man-di> on irc.oftc.net <man-di> debian moved from freenode to oftc some time ago <tashiro> ah yes, thanks. <artabrahao> hi <artabrahao> anyone has ideia why the immage does not appears in http://shoppingcarba.com.br/ ? <man-di> it appears for me, its a flash video <artabrahao> the thumbs images? <man-di> ah, these ones, no <artabrahao> why? <man-di> artabrahao: ask the maintainers of this page <artabrahao> they really don know <man-di> they should, they are responsible for it. I dont really see what is the relation of this problem to this channel <artabrahao> tks <man-di> they use a php script to deliver the image <man-di> this doesnt seem to work <artabrahao> I cant user apache, appears an errro #ubuntu-java 2007-06-11 <leonel> wow !http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary-man-di/?p=37 <leonel> http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary-man-di/?p=37 so this is for gutsy right ? #ubuntu-java 2007-06-12 <jaiderfercho27> buenas noches <jaiderfercho27> que se dice de java <xjagox> wenas #ubuntu-java 2007-06-13 <ubuntu-home> i'm trying to play with synapse, i get the following error message <ubuntu-home> You must set the JAVA_HOME variable before running Axis2 Script. <ubuntu-home> how do i set the java_home variable? <icf7> Could someone here have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5514 (Sunflow rendering system) ? <man-di> icf7: sure <man-di> I can review but I'm no MOTU <icf7> man-di: Thank you <man-di> icf7: several issues, wanna discuss in private? <icf7> man-di: Could you just comment or write it in here? <man-di> its a bunch and some might need some discussion, depending on what you know about the debian java policy #ubuntu-java 2007-06-17 <man-di> hello tmarble <tmarble> hi man-di! <juan_> Hi, anyones knows why I cant create a new proyect in Netbeans, I installed Netbeans 5.5.1 + JDK6 #ubuntu-java 2007-06-18 <jmchaffie> anyone on? <jmchaffie> just have a quick update question... it worked but a program doesn't see it. Just need a point in the right direction... * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-java.log #ubuntu-java 2007-06-19 <jellington> Hi Everyone, I used synaptic to install the jdk and netbeans but I can't seem to figure out where the class path is set? does anyone know where I should dump extra classes so that I can develop with them with ubuntu installed this way? #ubuntu-java 2007-06-21 <leonel> how can we get sun-java6 u1 in ubuntu ? <leonel> https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/developer.html <leonel> there's a ugly bug in sun-java6 <man-di> leonel: get SUN finally provide us with the DLJ builds of 6u1 <man-di> leonel: they are busy with openjdk currenly <leonel> man-di: they did already <leonel> man-di: https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/developer.html <leonel> there's for sun java 6 u1 <man-di> aah, thats new, then doko and tmarble are working on it at Debconf <man-di> leonel: its on their TODO <leonel> man-di: great <leonel> man-di: can I build the package for myself in the time they release ? <leonel> man-di: or can I do something ? <man-di> best to ask doko on this <man-di> I havent looked so deeply into sun-java6 so far <man-di> I currently package icedtea <man-di> as known as openjdk <man-di> as known as Java 7 <doko> yes, needs to be updated <leonel> doko: can I help ? <doko> leonel: sure, if you want. prepare a package so that I can review it. <leonel> doko: taking the sh from https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/developer.html <leonel> doko: I mean will be a new package not an update for the current package ? <leonel> doko: so nobody is working on it ? <man-di> leonel: it should be an updated of the existing packahe <leonel> man-di: ok <leonel> man-di: the procedure is the same as any other package ? <leonel> i mean dpatch-edit-patch <leonel> and send the debdiff ? <man-di> leonel: you will surely need to create a new orig tar.gz <doko> leonel: look at the existing package, and you will find out =) <leonel> that's what i'm looking and there's a change from bin to sh in the java packages to download <ratpoison> hello, I'm facing this problem #ubuntu-java 2007-06-22 <ratpoison> I want to assemble an ijvm from a jas source <ratpoison> in the command line, I type: java ijvmasm ijvmtest.jas ijvmtest.ijvm <ratpoison> but it doesn't work <leonel> for updating sun-java6 I got this error : <leonel> make: *** No rule to make target `unpatch'. Stop. <leonel> this after making <leonel> dpatch-edit-patch <leonel> what's wrong ? <leonel> I guess this is not enough for ubuntu / <leonel> ? <_stress_> hey...can someone pleaz tell me how to read data from the keyboard ? <_stress_> esse canal eh brasileiro? <leonel> went through the ubuntu packaging guide to see how sun-java6 can be updated and couldn't do it ... any idea ?? #ubuntu-java 2007-06-25 * #ubuntu-java [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-java.log <leonel> hello where can I found docs about how to update sun-java6 to the lattest jdk ? <man-di> leonel: about sun-java6: Read the source of the package and you will understand <leonel> man-di: I hope I'll do :) <leonel> thanks <leonel> man-di: so most of the work is going on openjdk ? <man-di> yes <man-di> proprietary java is a dead horse <leonel> so .. let's refocus my work .. <leonel> thanks #ubuntu-java 2007-06-26 <leonel> man-di: any chances openjdk will be included in gutsy ? <b52laptop> hi <b52laptop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat5/+bug/105837 :) <man-di> b52laptop: the tomcat maintainer is not here <rajesh-wolf> hi <rajesh-wolf> hey geeks ......... welcome <b52laptop> man-di, hm ok :D <man-di> b52laptop: best to report issues into debian bts <man-di> b52laptop: then marcus can fix issues <b52laptop> man-di, euh why debian ? * b52laptop don't know marcus :D <man-di> b52laptop: because its maintained in Debian, Ubuntu just merges sometimes <man-di> b52laptop: Marcus Better handles tomcat in Debian <b52laptop> man-di, hm ok <b52laptop> man-di, thanks for the info :d <man-di> b52laptop: n.p. <_stress_> hi... <_stress_> can someone help me a little? <leonel> with ? <_stress_> is it possible to create dynamic names for variables in java? <_stress_> ????? <_stress_> leonel and then??? <axxo> wrong place to ask try ##java, but you're better off reading a book on java <_stress_> #ubuntu-java....isn't it supposed to be 'bout java??? =x <leonel> _stress_: ?? <_stress_> hum <leonel> _stress_: check java reflection <_stress_> ok...I'll google it...thanx dude <leonel> _stress_: this is more for java problems or solutions related to ubuntu <_stress_> hum... <leonel> like packaging or support for java packages in ubuntu <_stress_> just another question...what is the command line to join a specific channel like ## java? <man-di> _stress_: #ubuntu-java is about packaging Java software for Ubuntu, not about teaching the Java language <leonel> _stress_: /j ##java <_stress_> thanx #ubuntu-java 2007-06-27 <rajesh-wolf> hey java gurus #ubuntu-java 2007-06-28 <skull> hi <skull> gb <jetsaredim> how do I get the sun java plugins working in firefox? <jetsaredim> I know I have the sun jdk/jre 1.6 package installed, but for some reason I can't get firefox to recognize it <man-di_> jetsaredim: aptitude install sun-java6-plugin <jetsaredim> just ran that and like I said - its already installed <jetsaredim> I also tried using the config selection tool to change my system java to sun <jetsaredim> but that didn't seem to work either <jetsaredim> any suggestions on where to start with this? <jetsaredim> I really need a more recent java plugin than the blackdown one <man-di_> are the alternatives for the plugin pointing to the sun java6 plugin? <jetsaredim> o wait <jetsaredim> i just checked about:plugins <man-di_> jetsaredim: the problem is when you install several java runtimes the alternatives might get confused <jetsaredim> ok - so how do I get rid of the non-sun java runtimes <jetsaredim> about:plugins is showing both blackdown and sun <jetsaredim> i can just remove the j2re1.4 blackdown package right? <man-di_> when no other package on your system depend on it <man-di_> a probably better way is to use update-java-alternatives <man-di_> to set the sun java6 as defualt java runtime <jetsaredim> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun <jetsaredim> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun <jetsaredim> hmm <jetsaredim> i just got rid of the blackdown jre through adept <jetsaredim> nothing seems to depend on it <jetsaredim> other than the plugin <jetsaredim> a ha <jetsaredim> stupid stale pluginreg <jetsaredim> nevermind <jetsaredim> thanks for the suggestions tho #ubuntu-java 2007-06-29 * man-di shakes his head <man-di> the first bug requesting Eclipse 3.3 was filed. <man-di> man, it just came out #ubuntu-java 2007-06-30 <spiderman> can any one tell me why " interface implement interface not possible" ? <fk> #gettinghelp <youssef> Hello <man-di_> hello <youssef> I would like to start to program a basic graphic java program <youssef> that is portable to Windows <youssef> I am using Edgy <man-di_> start like executing or start like begin to write? <youssef> begin to write <youssef> I would like to refresh and upgrade my java skills which are very basic <man-di_> then you are probably better in ##java, this channel is about packaging java software for Ubuntu, not coding in Java <youssef> ok <youssef> Netbeans is free software? <youssef> I mean free as in free speech <man-di_> according to http://www.netbeans.org/about/legal/license.html its licensed under CDDL * man-di_ needs to leave.... <man-di_> bye <youssef> ok <youssef> see you later <JWebDev> hello <JWebDev> someone here work with hibernate? <Evolution2> um hello. i was wondering if i have the latest java because i keep getting aumatically kicked from this particular server. <Evolution2> giving me "proxy" #ubuntu-java 2008-06-02 <dholbach> good morning <dholbach> good morning <fcestrada> dholbach: Good morning Daniel ;) <dholbach> hey fcestrada <matholum> hello everyone, could someone help me out on a SocketChannel problem? <msh> Hey everyone! <msh> Does anyone know any software that can create installers for my java desktop application? <persia> msh: We typically use Debian-format packaging here, which isn't really automated. <persia> On the other hand, once done, it allows for easy installation. <msh> I see... <msh> Actually might not sound well, but I'm trying to create an installer for windows <msh> though I am on Ubuntu 8.04 and all development is on Ubuntu <msh> The java channel is not open to the masses? <persia> msh: That's harder. There's a dpkg in cygwin, but I'm really not sure how well it works. <msh> I see. <msh> Then perhaps we need to ship it as self extracting exe <draganov> some1 alive ? #ubuntu-java 2008-06-03 <dholbach> good morning <yuanhao_> "you need to be identified to join that channel" but how can i be identified? who can tell me? <robilad> you need to register your nick <yuanhao_> where to register .thanks .i know i am in the wrong channel <robilad> see freenode.net <robilad> good luck <yuanhao_> thanks #ubuntu-java 2008-06-04 <dummyboy> excuse me .i am identified .but why i cannot join ##java?it says :you need to be identified to join that channel <dummyboy> info dummyboy <dholbach> good morning <man-di> dholbach: moin <dholbach> hi man-di <man-di> dholbach: How can I help you? <dholbach> man-di: erm... what do you mean? :) <man-di> dholbach: I thought you had a question or so <man-di> ENOCOFFEE <dholbach> no, I'm fine - thanks :) * dholbach gets himself some more coffee too :) <tacosalad> anyone in here? <persia> tacosalad: Lots of people, just quiet people. <slytherin> tacosalad: depends on next question. :-p <tacosalad> i registered my name.. still cant join ##java.. does it take some time for it to set-in or something? <tacosalad> :( ok maybe someone could help me with the thing i am trying to get in ##java to ask about... can i make a variable in a loop- i'll have name1, name2, name3 etc and i'm not sure how many i'll need, so can i do like a for loop String name+i? <persia> (nobody is here) <tacosalad> you can't help persia? <tacosalad> with either getting in ##java or telling me if creating variables like that is possible <persia> tacosalad: I'd have to write test code, and was planning to go to bed. I can't help with getting into ##java <slytherin> tacosalad: Do you really need ny variables or is arraylist fine for you? <tacosalad> variables <tacosalad> well, unless i can have an array or arrays? <tacosalad> or make class instances on the fly like that.. <tacosalad> array of arrays** <slytherin> tacosalad: since this is really off-topic here I suggest you paste your problem on pastebin so that I can try to provide a better solution. <tacosalad> im lody <tacosalad> lost* #ubuntu-java 2008-06-05 <DaveKong> Anyone know what to do about this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17103/ <dholbach> good morning <dholbach> hi robilad - how are you doing? <robilad> dholbach: hi! <robilad> fighting to get to inbox zero again ;) <dholbach> I know how you feel :) <dholbach> robilad: how's the java team wiki coming on? :) <robilad> bubling up to the top ;) <dholbach> Rock And Roll :) <robilad> oh, and looks like I'll be back in berlin on 24th, though this time at a sane time. ;) <dholbach> nice, what are you going to do there? <robilad> talk at TU on openjdk <robilad> java on linux, and all that <dholbach> great <dholbach> you can invite people to the Ubuntu Java team at that opportunity :) <robilad> yeah <dholbach> robilad: let me know if you need a hand with it <robilad> sure <dholbach> great <shubuntu> hey anyone alive here <robilad> hi shubuntu <shubuntu> i need a tutorial on proper java comments <shubuntu> like how to write it so that javadoc can be produced that explains everything to the user <shubuntu> hi robilad <shubuntu> sorry didn't see your reply <robilad> otp <shubuntu> i think this room is too dead <shubuntu> lol <shubuntu> any idea where i can get what i'm looking for <persia> shubuntu: It's a very quiet room, but it also has a specialised focus: that of packaging Java applications in Ubuntu. <shubuntu> well don't have a problem with my packaging <shubuntu> it seems to be working fine <shubuntu> I need to produce javadocs <persia> shubuntu: Excellent! Please let us know if you do encounter any issues with the packaging in the future. <shubuntu> ok <shubuntu> thanks for the concern <shubuntu> :) <shubuntu> do you know why the java room won't let me in? <persia> shubuntu: Have you tried asking about Javadoc in #java? <persia> Are you registered with freenode? <shubuntu> no <shubuntu> what's that <persia> That's why. <shubuntu> http://freenode.net? <persia> shubuntu: Yep. <shubuntu> ok thanks for the help <shubuntu> how do i join lol doesn't have a join button <shubuntu> thanks a lot man, it worked just fine #ubuntu-java 2008-06-06 <dholbach> good morning <derien> hi javafans #ubuntu-java 2008-06-07 <codyzapp> good morning <LunchBox> hi, ive installed java-plugin via synaptic and i still cant play yahoo games and stuff like that via java. any suggestions? <LunchBox> nevermind :) #ubuntu-java 2008-06-08 <rafex> hello <rafex> hola <rafex> alguien q hable espaÃ±ol? #ubuntu-java 2008-06-09 <dholbach> good morning <dsmith1974> Hi all, is this the right place to ask why I cannot install the Sun JRE onto Ubuntu 8.04? <jamil_11020429> How can I configure java on ubuntu ? (I m a complete noob and just thinking to learn java) <robilad> jamil_11020429: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java #ubuntu-java 2008-06-10 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-java 2008-06-11 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-java 2008-06-12 <jmckinzie> can someone help with my ubuntu java issue? <jmckinzie> getting applet not initialized on every java applet. <jmckinzie> application/x-java-vm IcedTea class,jar Yes application/x-java-applet IcedTea class,jar Yes <jmckinzie> those are my plugins. <dholbach> good morning <xhaker> howdy all #ubuntu-java 2008-06-13 <dholbach> good morning <gnnarin> cki di voi conosce e magari ne fa uso di jdbc? #ubuntu-java 2008-06-14 <enterneo1> how is sun-java-6 different from openjdk-6 for a newbie programmer who would rarely open up JDK source code? <userrrrr> Where I can find the table Or the list with classes java ? <userrrrr> Ð±Ð»Ñ =( <userrrrr> i find it http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/ #ubuntu-java 2008-06-15 <rgl> hi. <rgl> how do I install sun-java6-jre in hardy? here its failing with dependency problems prevent configuration of sun-java6-jre :-( <siretart> I'm trying to fix batik to build in ubuntu <siretart> the package seems to expect to be build with jdk 1.4, which does not seem easy on the ubuntu autobuilders <siretart> I've therefore tried to build it against 1.6, by adding /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun to JAVA_HOME_DIRS <siretart> which which didn't work out <siretart> see here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15266499/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.batik_1.6-3ubuntu1%7Eppa1%7Ehardy1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz <siretart> the package is available in my ppa, if someone could fix it to build, that would be marvelous! <man-di> siretart: the only possible solution is probably tp update the package to 1.7 <siretart> hm. do you feel like doing that? :) <man-di> unlikely currently <man-di> siretart: Vincent Fourmond started on it but he is missing in action afaik <reinhold> Apparently, the sun java compiler (from ubuntu packages) does not load the jar files that other packages install in /usr/shar/java... How can I make it load them??? #ubuntu-java 2008-06-16 <erpo> Java is segfaulting on my 64-bit ubuntu 8.04 installation. Is this the right channel to get support? <persia> erpo: This is the channel for support with packaging Java, more than support with using Java. You likely either want #ubuntu, or to file a bug. <dholbach> good morning <dholbach> hi robilad <robilad1> hi dholbach <robilad1> still haven't written things up yet <dholbach> :) * dholbach hugs robilad1 * robilad1 feels the pressure squeezed out <robilad1> thanks, dholbach #ubuntu-java 2008-06-17 <dholbach> good morning <jonatha1> ï»¿anyone that could help me get flash working with firefox instead of it locking up my page? Im new to linux and installed Ubuntu 8.04 #ubuntu-java 2008-06-18 <the_darkside_986> Installing NetBeans has messed up my sun-java6-* installations by replacing things with openjdk. How do I "purify" my installation and still keep NetBeans? <the_darkside_986> for example, the java interpreter was replaced by openjdk, which fails miserably trying to run my NetBeans project outside of Netbeans. <persia> the_darkside_986: I seem to remember some issue with NetBeans and sun-java6-*. I think there was a newer library in OpenJDK that was required (but don't remember the details). <persia> You might be able to fake it by adjusting the dependencies, but no guarantees it will work. <the_darkside_986> that is odd. right now I am reinstalling sun-java6-bin in hopes that the correct java binary executable will be replaced. * persia thought update-alternatives would be an easier path <the_darkside_986> ? <the_darkside_986> it is still using the wrong executable. <the_darkside_986> still i don't see how NetBeans is successfully running this. The correct java must be on the system somewhere. <the_darkside_986> ok I found it under /usr/lib/jvm/sun-whatever, but i am afraid to overwrite the openjdk symlink with the "correct" one. is it safe to do that? i mean netbeans has been using Sun's so... <dholbach> good morning <man-di> dholbach: moin, I hope it was okay to keep you on CC for now <dholbach> man-di: sure <man-di> dholbach: you dont know where doko is lost? I need an upload from him. <dholbach> man-di: I hope Benjamin won't back off from the challenges of Java packaging :-) <dholbach> man-di: he's in Canada for one reason or the other (forgot) <dholbach> man-di: what kind of upload is it? <man-di> dholbach: do you know what knowledge he has of packaging? did i put too hard stuff into the mail? <man-di> gcc-defaults upload to Debian to make classpath work again <dholbach> man-di: as far as I can see he's very keen, but doesn't have years of packaging experience - he doesn't seem afraid to figure things out <dholbach> studies CS in Berlin <dholbach> man-di: sorry, I can't help you with gcc-defaults upload :-/ <dholbach> man-di: I reckon doko might be up in just a few hours <man-di> I know <man-di> dholbach: so far all people that wanted to provide help vanished when hitting the first problem <man-di> dholbach: and most people just like to complain instead of doing help <man-di> dholbach: see launchpad eclipse bug reports <dholbach> man-di: I'll push him to ask his questions here <dholbach> he figured out some other packaging problems before <man-di> dholbach: better in #debian-java on irc.debian.org <robilad> dholbach: thanks! <robilad> man-di: thanks for the feedback, I agree that we need a single mapping <man-di> robilad: the final packages dont need to be the same, but the way to map is the same <man-di> robilad: different distros have different package name policies <robilad> yeah <robilad> that's why I think dholbach's java packaging wiki etc. could be a useful start. with tinuviel's tracking information, etc. <man-di> java packaging wiki? tinuviel's tracking information? #ubuntu-java 2008-06-19 <dholbach> good morning <leonel> http://blog.softwhere.org/archives/196 <-- I guess this is comming soon to Ubuntu Hardy ... <persia> leonel: apt-get source openjdk-6 :) <leonel> Really ?? <leonel> I have this : leonel@journey:~$ java -version <leonel> java version "1.6.0" <leonel> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09) <leonel> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing) <persia> Well, it's 6b10, not final, but close. <leonel> I gues this is not as simple as upgrading any other deb by replacing the source and rebuild right ? <persia> leonel: Well, it has a few rdepends... <leonel> persia: if there's any test or thing I can do just let me know <persia> leonel: I'm not sure what is needed. For Java, I tend only to look at leaf pacakges, and maybe some minor libraries. The packaging of Java itself is not something I know much about. <leonel> same for those leaf packages .. <persia> leonel: Well, for the leaf packages, there are three interesting things to do. 1) Review which Java packages are in multiverse, and try to get them into universe because all dependencies are in universe <persia> 2) Review the open bugs against the packages, and try to fix them <persia> 3) Review the needs-packaging bugs for Java stuff, and get them included. <persia> The Debian wiki has a lot of good information about packaging Java applications. <leonel> Perferct !! #ubuntu-java 2008-06-20 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-java 2008-06-21 <userrrrr> no pyccku kto Hutb roBopuT ? <persia> Not here. #ubuntu-java 2008-06-22 <soren> Is there a way to change which Java version openjdk identifies as? I've come across a few sites that seem to have a whitelist of acceptable JRE's, and it doesn't accept our openjdk.. <soren> Preferably a way that doesn't involve recompiling it... /me shudders #ubuntu-java 2008-06-23 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-java 2008-06-24 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-java 2008-06-25 <dholbach> good morning <robilad1> hi dholbach <dholbach> hi robilad1 <persia> OOh! Traffic! Do we get an announcement soon? <robilad1> announcement ... ? <robilad1> ah, darn, the thing we spoke about at uds, i completely blended that out. <robilad1> sigh. <persia> robilad1: No worries. You've been busy. Maybe we can have a meeting for interested parties in a couple weeks, and put together some targets for intrepid? <robilad1> yeah, that'd be great! <dholbach> robilad1: it might be worth asking interested parties to add agenda items to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting <persia> We have such a page? That makes it easier :) <persia> robilad1: When is a good day/time for you? * persia adds some agenda items <dholbach> doko: who has op privileges in this channel? <dholbach> it might be worth linking https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam in the topic <robilad1> friday & monday work best for me <dholbach> robilad1: do you think you could ask other interested people at Sun for their meeting date/time preferences and to add agenda items to the page? <persia> robilad1: What time (UTC)? Anything past about 14:00 is late for me. <robilad1> dholbach: yes <dholbach> robilad1: gracias :) <dholbach> persia: can you add your name to your agenda items? <persia> dholbach: Err. RIght. Oops! <dholbach> np :) <robilad1> working on the time schedule thingy <robilad1> http://www.doodle.ch/fy7xd7hgrd59y7p5 <robilad1> added my times to it <robilad1> added the meeting wiki link, too. <robilad1> meh, not an op. <robilad1> dholbach: I'll send the doodle link around internally, too. <dholbach> thanks robilad1 <robilad1> least i can do <persia> robilad1: Do we want to have the meeting here, or in #ubuntu-meeting? <robilad1> good question ... could you explain what #ubuntu-meeting does/how it works? <dholbach> robilad1: #ubuntu-meeting is logged and has a meeting bot that can take notes, etc <dholbach> it's where meetings happen regularly <robilad1> ah, ok, what's the availability schedule? <dholbach> if you join it, you can just say @schedule berlin and it will tell you the next meetings it knows about <persia> robilad1: It's posted on fridge.ubuntu.com, but it's open much of the time. <robilad1> thank you <dholbach> it gets data from http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event <robilad1> ok. i'd suggest collecting some avilability data, and then going back to see whether #ubuntu-meeting is available, if not we'll do it here. <dholbach> sounds good <robilad1> ok. changed the description to say #ubuntu-meeting <robilad1> on the doodle poll <dholbach> this is going to be great * robilad1 hugs dholbach <robilad1> it will, no worries! * dholbach hugs robilad1 back :-) <robilad1> ;) <dholbach> what do I have to do to make ant-sanity-check happy? <dholbach> it complains about not having a valid JAVA_HOME or JAVACMD <dholbach> isn't it enough to just install the right package? <persia> dholbach: No, you also need to have the right variables set. This often happens in the build scripts. <dholbach> persia: that sucks <persia> Eventually, we won't be so depedent on being able to build against different targets, and the problem will go away (All hail OpenJDK) <dholbach> what's wrong with JAVACMD=/usr/bin/java ? <dholbach> just assuming it if it's unset * persia lacks sufficient backstory <dholbach> robilad1: ^? <dholbach> I'm just trying to sponsor a libjibx-java merge - and ant doesn't like me <persia> dholbach: You often have to have a large number of the build-dependencies installed locally to build source. If you can't build source with all the build-dependencies installed, it's a bug. <persia> You shouldn't have to set variables at sponsoring time. * dholbach downloads build-deps * robilad1 passes the ant question to man-di <man-di> robilad1: I'm not here... <dholbach> :-) <robilad1> the one time I try to delegate ... ;) * man-di needs to fight against that mobile OS here... <robilad1> ouch. good luck! <persia> man-di: Which mobile OS? <robilad1> dholbach: /usr/bin/java is a bit too vague <persia> robilad1: Well, it *should* work... <man-di> dholbach: its a common secret that you need the JDK referenced in JAVA_HOME and ant installed to be able to run clean target for most Java packages <robilad1> it could be a too old vm version, that the package couldn't rebuild against if the alternatives point to something else. * persia thinks it's a bug, but acknowledges that it won't be solved for a while: possibly lenny+1, if we're lucky <man-di> persia: Windows Mobile X <robilad1> so yeah, JAVA_HOME it is. <persia> man-di: Ah. Best of luck. <man-di> persia: its definitely bug, but we ignore it since sarge or so <persia> man-di: Only since then? I thought it had been ignored since at least potato, if not earlier :) <man-di> robilad1: do you think my last mail about JAM was reasonable enough? <man-di> persia: I was not involved at that time so I dont know. My history books are empty about that time. <persia> man-di: I must admit I don't remember when there was first two JVMs either. <persia> s/was/were/ <robilad1> man-di: yeah, i think so <dholbach> ok... installing all the build-deps inclunding sun-java6-jdk made it happy <robilad1> thanks for pushing that conversation forward <robilad1> I think you've managed to push alex out on IRC to see where those folks hang out ;) <persia> dholbach: Note that you may want to remove them afterwards if you sponsor a few Java things. Different packages need different sets of dependencies installed to build source. I recommend building the source in a snapshot chroot for now. <dholbach> right <robilad1> man-di: what's your feeling, you're getting good feedback back from alex? <robilad1> it's kind of hard to judge a conversation on pretty abstract matter just by the content, so ... <dholbach> hum - I might have missed parts of the conversation but how do we build stuff on the build daemons that use sun-java6-*? <persia> dholbach: You need to tell your chroot you've accepted the license. <man-di> robilad1: the feedback is good. It just shows me that Alex has a totally different background. He thinks like an upstream developer. <dholbach> persia: does soyuz auto-accept it? <man-di> robilad1: robilad1 but thats okay. we will push into the right direction <robilad1> man-di: thanks, that's very good to know <man-di> robilad1: its good to have different backgrounds in the conversation as it brings in different views <man-di> robilad1: I just hope that the other people will add their opinions too after RedHat summit <persia> dholbach: Yes. You need to preseed "sun-java6-jdk shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true". I'm currently hunting the incantation... <robilad1> man-di: yeah, me too, and I have a sense that having alex on board of that JSR has turned it around to be a lot more attentive to what we need. <dholbach> persia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/KnowledgeBase ! :) <robilad1> i'm sure they are all enjoying their weeks off after passing the TCK ;) <persia> dholbach: Hmm. That doesn't have it either. <dholbach> persia: it should :) <persia> dholbach: The only people I know to know the secret command are wgrant and cjwatson. <persia> slytherin: Just to catch you up, we're planning a meeting, with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting being the draft agenda. <persia> Did you ever get an answer to your java1.4 issue? <slytherin> persia: Nope. It was only important for batik but hopefully I will be able to upgrade batik to 1.7 in intrepid cycle. <dholbach> thanks persia for adding to the knowledgebase <Xsss4hell> hi <Xsss4hell> I get "Scanner cannot be resolved to a type" although the code is 100000% correct.. it must be somthing with paths..
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