#ubuntu-quality 2013-01-01 <Noskcaj> could someone confirm bug 1094997 <ubot5> bug 1094997 in testdrive (Ubuntu) "Testdrive-cli only supports ubuntu and ubuntu-server by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094997 <Noskcaj> could someone confirm bug 1094997 <ubot5> bug 1094997 in testdrive (Ubuntu) "Testdrive-cli only supports ubuntu and ubuntu-server by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094997 <Noskcaj> can someone confirn bug 1087848 and bug 1087409 <ubot5> bug 1087848 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "no login background lubuntu daily 13.04 amd64 Vbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087848 <ubot5> bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu dailys take 3 minutes to get to the next screen if install mp3 is selected." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087409 #ubuntu-quality 2013-01-02 <tripelb> I was sent here because I have a nexus 7 to talk to people were putting Ubuntu on. That was 2 weeks ago and I see nothing can I find out where and when people are talking about that I have so many questions <tripelb> http://randall.executiv.es/raring_nexus7 <Noskcaj> for next time tripelb comes online, put him in contact with a nexus 7 tester who can explain stuff to him <dtourond> Hello everyone :) <dtourond> 63 members online, but no one's talking..? Okay then. <amjjawad> phillw: you there? <dtourond> Am I the only one who's active here..? <amjjawad> DevonT or dtourond ??? <amjjawad> You should have said your username is dtourond ;) <amjjawad> when you need to talk to someone for example me, type his/her name <dtourond> It was DevonT before but after a while I got bored & logged off. When I came back it just automatically used dtourond. <amjjawad> so he/she should notice that <amjjawad> Ok! <dtourond> @amjjawad - so I guess we're the only two people who are active. <meetingology> dtourond: Error: "amjjawad" is not a valid command. <dtourond> amjjawad - so I guess we're the only two people who are active. <amjjawad> sometimes, users log in but they are busy or away <amjjawad> as I said on the fb group, people here from different time zones so it is better to arrage a meeting with someone before logging in ;) <dtourond> amjjawad - Yeah, that's true <dtourond> amjjawad - One time I was on an Anonymous IRC server (y'know, the hacker group) and it was just flooding with people. Almost every second there was a new message. <dtourond> I was just shocked at this, but don't worry.. I understand.. <amjjawad> Glad you do <amjjawad> I must go now, I have some things to do :) <amjjawad> I will try to login later but no promises <amjjawad> dtourond: have you subscribed to the mailing list of QATeam? <dtourond> amjjawad: Yes, you're talking about the "Lubuntu-QA team" https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa <dtourond> right? <amjjawad> yes and there is ubuntu qa team as well <dtourond> Amjjawad: Oh sweet! I don't think I'd need much help through Ubuntu <amjjawad> I have subscribed to both before and still getting the Emails. I must go now ... catch you later ;) dtourond <dtourond> Okay, ttyl :) <amjjawad> I'm all into Lubuntu actually <dtourond> Okay? <amjjawad> ok then, take care and cya soon ;) <dtourond> Yeah, same to you. <amjjawad> will sure do <amjjawad> bye <dtourond> Bye. <SergioMeneses> morning! <balloons> hello SergioMeneses <SergioMeneses> balloons, hey hey, happy new year! I'm back from vacations <balloons> me too, hehe! <SergioMeneses> balloons, I have a lot of email to read =S I can see autopilot is going well <balloons> yes, I've got lots to catch up on as well <balloons> but it's good <balloons> and we have the sessions to finalize dates on <balloons> gonna be a busy janurary <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure... Im checking the ubuntu phone os http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-phone-os-unveiled-by-canonical <balloons> yes.. check out the youtube video showing it in action <balloons> ohh, while I have you SergioMeneses <balloons> would you care to give a session on doing laptop testing this month? <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom <SergioMeneses> balloons, :O and SergioZanchetta? does he know about this? <balloons> we sent a mail before break to the list <balloons> not sure if anyone got it.. never saw a response <balloons> anyways, I want to lock dates in <balloons> we wanted to do all of them this month <SergioMeneses> balloons, I saw the email but there is not answer from Sergio <SergioMeneses> :S <SergioMeneses> balloons, Can I give you an answer about the session later? I guess that I can but Im not sure <balloons> SergioMeneses, sure <letozaf_> Hi all, has anyone tried the Netboot armhf+omap4 image (http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu200/images/omap4/netboot/boot.img-fb.gz) ? <letozaf_> I'm not quite sure I found a bug <Noskcaj> letozaf_, whats the bug? i doubt anyone else has seen it <Noskcaj> also, how did you only get one bug for ubuntu manual partitioning? <balloons> hey Noskcaj letozaf_ <letozaf_> Well for the armhf+omap4 image I chose to install Basic Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu desktop, but when <letozaf_> I rebooted I only got a desktop with a background and nothing else <letozaf_> no icons no launcher nothing <letozaf_> hello balloons <letozaf_> :) <Noskcaj> letozaf_, interesting. ERMERGERD balloons is back <letozaf_> for the manual partitioning, what else should I have encountered ? <balloons> I'm back indeed <balloons> had a nice break <balloons> good holidays for everyone? happy new year if nothing else <letozaf_> Welcom back balloons !!! <balloons> that will sink in at some point <letozaf_> happy new year to all <Noskcaj> letozaf_, happy new year. my list (i think) is 1065789 bug 1080437 bug 1087409 bug 1086034 bug 1088054 bug 1087823 bug 1085173 <ubot5> bug 1080437 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "no background during the 13.04 daily install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080437 <ubot5> bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu dailys take 3 minutes to get to the next screen if install mp3 is selected." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087409 <ubot5> bug 1086034 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity slideshows still refers to 12.10" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086034 <ubot5> bug 1088054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Release notes firefox has no "minimise, maximise, close" buttons" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1088054 <letozaf_> wow! <Noskcaj> die ubot, die <letozaf_> let me have a look at these bugs <Noskcaj> i have a feeling i put one extra in, i'm not sure <balloons> so letozaf_ I think there's some more pending merges for the autopilot tests from you <balloons> if so, I will get to them <letozaf_> yes but the last two do not work :( <Noskcaj> balloons, there is one <letozaf_> there should be two: nautilus and evince <Noskcaj> i think i merged one of those <letozaf_> Noskcaj, for bug 1080437 this time it did not happen to me :( <ubot5> bug 1080437 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "no background during the 13.04 daily install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080437 <balloons> Noskcaj, ahh, yes you do have the power <Noskcaj> balloons, POWER! <Noskcaj> letozaf_, interesting, maybe its VM only, i'm pretty sure bug 1087848 is <ubot5> bug 1087848 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "no login background lubuntu daily 13.04 amd64 Vbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087848 <letozaf_> Noskcaj, unfortunatly I did not try to select try mp3 so also bug 1087409 did not happen to me either <ubot5> bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu dailys take 3 minutes to get to the next screen if install mp3 is selected." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087409 <letozaf_> sorry install not try <Noskcaj> letozaf_, my point is there are many bugs, just keep a lookout <letozaf_> yes sir!!!! <letozaf_> you are right <letozaf_> but for the slideshow isn't it a bit early to report a bug, maybe the still have to work on them... <letozaf_> or do we still have to report this kind of bugs ? <Noskcaj> letozaf_, scottk made the bug as a reminder, i just add it anyway <letozaf_> ok I asked because I was not sure about it <letozaf_> so next time I will also subscribe the bug <balloons> yes, bug 1086034 is known <ubot5> bug 1086034 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity slideshows still refers to 12.10" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086034 <balloons> not an issue <balloons> err, well, lol.. typically it's not updated till beta/rc tim <balloons> but your right,m it is a bug :-) <Noskcaj> your keyboard problem, i sometimes have that, usually accompanied by no keyboard at all and what looks like a compiz crash. balloons i only do it as a reminder <balloons> yes, it is good to file <letozaf_> Noskcaj, is a war machine, I mean on bugs :-D <balloons> indeed! <letozaf_> so for the armhf+omap4 image should I report a bug ? <balloons> Noskcaj, so I'm updating the live session testcase finally haha <balloons> I know we were talking a little about it before xmas <balloons> the first part is to add instructions for persistence that make sense <balloons> you also wanted to create files, etc, to check the persistence <Noskcaj> balloons, i have no part in live session. i don't think that was me <balloons> ohh. gotcha <Noskcaj> while you we away there were other testcases that need updating i did find <balloons> did you add them to the list? I should probably archive our old work now <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestcaseUpdates <Noskcaj> balloons, note the very bottom, i'm not sure about the ppc one as we might close ppc down and i'm not sure ppc server i possible <Noskcaj> and before i forget, can someone run an ubuntu daily install, and note when the (x) is at the top and when its not <balloons> the 'x'? <Noskcaj> yes <Noskcaj> my netboot re-write is http://pad.ubuntu.com/wfjvrAzFq2, my oem re-write is http://pad.ubuntu.com/hROELLDhue <Noskcaj> the oem needs kubuntu only updates, could we get scott to do that? <balloons> Noskcaj, yes ask scottk <Noskcaj> i have pinged him <Noskcaj> phillw, can you try getting the -pwerpc guys to follow gilir's orders, i gave up an my mac can't boot usb <phillw> Noskcaj: I cannot order to order people, <Noskcaj> phillw, "orders: <Noskcaj> * "orders" <balloons> lol <balloons> well, testing this failed open on raring <balloons> usb disk creator blew up trying to start <Noskcaj> lol <letozaf_> I had quite a lot of problems with usb disk creator today <letozaf_> had to use unetboot <letozaf_> :( <phillw> balloons: Ã cannot log a critical bug with Chromium, the reporting mechanism from Chromium fails and it needs to be reported upstream. Is michag or Chad back from their break? <balloons> letozaf_, btw, you don't need to use unetboot <balloons> you can simply copy the image straight to usb <letozaf_> with dd ? <balloons> yes <balloons> dd if=myiso.iso of=/dev/sdb <letozaf_> oh! never thought of this :) great <balloons> yea, really slick <phillw> Noskcaj: we have to run down problems in severity... a none working browser is pretty sad... one VM system not working against another is a another bad one..... <balloons> been that way since hmm 10.04? <balloons> not sure <phillw> Noskcaj: for your issue, do you have the ability to change screen resolutuion on the VM? <balloons> Noskcaj, so this 'x' thing <balloons> what all do you mean? <balloons> I'm in the installer now <Noskcaj> phillw, is there anything that does work for you? balloons, it seems to come and go throughout the installer <balloons> k, I <balloons> i'll watch <balloons> yep, it's gone <balloons> ok, you got a bug for this? <Noskcaj> balloons, no, if you could. <ScottK> \o <balloons> gonna check using 'try ubuntu' then install <balloons> see if it changes anything <Noskcaj> ScottK, http://pad.ubuntu.com/hROELLDhue is my work so-far, if you could finish it? <balloons> hey ScottK <Noskcaj> balloons, good idea <phillw> Noskcaj: I got tied up on kvm bug, for which we have a workaround, I cannot test every testing system against all VM systems. I am pleased to see that the testdrive guys are also looking into your issues.... You better make sure the bug reports are there for them :D <Noskcaj> phillw, yep, everything thats actually a bug is one, everything else is in the email <phillw> Noskcaj: they need bug reports for each... the bug <phillw> & wish lists <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, i will make them now <ScottK> Noskcaj: I don't have time to write the test case, but I can get it into the system if someone does. <phillw> Noskcaj: you have to give the devs bug's to close, else their work does not count :D <Noskcaj> phillw, ok. <Noskcaj> ScottK, i was hoping you would at least know what to do for it. balloons, phillw or myself could upload it anyway. i guess i will try and finish it <ScottK> Sorry. Quite busy with $work ATM. <Noskcaj> ok <balloons> Noskcaj, hmm.. actually I think it's ok <Noskcaj> balloons, what is? <balloons> so, what's happening is that it doesn't want you to killl the installer once you start making disk changes <balloons> that's what's happening <Noskcaj> oh, never mind then. but it has the x at the restart prompt, i wonder what happens if its clicked <balloons> hehe <balloons> well, if it's only the installer it would close <Noskcaj> ok <Noskcaj> on another unrelated topic, how can i get ubuntu on a hiapad hi802 / zealz gk802? <balloons> Noskcaj, if googling doesn't present some images / instruction my guess is to start with the basic core image <phillw> balloons: if you just want to log ##phillw - it's PPC stuff which may be useful when I bring Noskcaj up to speed on a request he has made <balloons> or arm image, depending <balloons> what instructions set does it support? <balloons> btw -- asking on #ubuntu-arm may help <Noskcaj> balloons, i did, they dodged the question <balloons> ahh, well, that might be the asnwer <balloons> heh <balloons> see what happens when you get it <letozaf_> I wanted to carry out the Ubuntuone tests, but the testcase: ubuntuone-client/ubo-001 that checks that the Ubuntuone client can be installed must be "old" I mean on a Raring fresh install it's already installed <letozaf_> maybe the testcase should be updated <Noskcaj> balloons, am i ok to upload the slightly edited oem install? <balloons> ahh I see it <balloons> yes, go ahead <balloons> err well <balloons> hmm <Noskcaj> the highlighted bits are my only changes <balloons> http://lubuntu.com/ doesn't exist <balloons> only http://lubuntu.net.. no redirect :-( <balloons> yea, go ahead though <balloons> I was looking at this line <dt>Launch 'firefox' and navigate to http://www.FAMILY.com</dt> <balloons> <dd>The FAMILY homepage is loaded and displays properly</dd> <Noskcaj> ok <balloons> ok, so the netboot changes <balloons> anyone having issues with apport not sending bug reports? <Noskcaj> balloons, in raring? yup <balloons> yes, raring <balloons> bug for it? <Noskcaj> no <Noskcaj> and apport-collect doesn't work either <balloons> let me look <balloons> we need to open one <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/1060989 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1060989 in apport (Ubuntu) "Report isn't sent after clicking "Continue" while details load" [Undecided,Confirmed] <Noskcaj> ok. <balloons> pitti mentions "Right, we didn't enable Launchpad reporting on Raring yet. They go to <balloons> errors.ubuntu.com only at the moment." <balloons> I can't believe they still haven't turned it on yet <balloons> I will check with pitti at some point <balloons> someone on raring wish to confirm? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1095443 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1095443 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Startup disk creator fails to load; "error talking to udisks service"" [Undecided,New] <dkessel> switching the server to get package update from crashes update-manager on raring <balloons> dkessel, hmm <balloons> so, using update manager, changing the update server, then updating again causes a crash? <dkessel> yes. that's what i did. trying again after apport is done <dkessel> wait. apport is not working, right? <dkessel> mh <balloons> well, it's not pushing to lp yet <balloons> ohh.. I got a crash too <balloons> dkessel, well, let's get a bug filed for this if there isn't one <dkessel> balloons: lesson learnt: don't pop() an empty list :) <balloons> lol <balloons> yikes 10.4 mb crash file <TheLordOfTime> eesh <TheLordOfTime> oops sorry wrong channel * TheLordOfTime hates laptop touchpads <balloons> my favorite: UnreportableReason: This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again. <dkessel> yeah :D * dkessel tries to find documentation on how submitting such a bug with apport files manually would work... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Development_release does not help... <balloons> dkessel, you can use ubuntu-bug <balloons> in this case, ubuntu-bug update-manager <balloons> make sense? <dkessel> balloons: ok - i guess you're doing that already now? <balloons> dkessel, yes :-) <balloons> but you can confirm and add stuff to it <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1095453 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1095453 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Changing download servers and updating crashes update-manager" [Undecided,New] <dkessel> so i just write: "Confirmed on current package versions" ? or is "confirming" something different? <dkessel> balloons: is writing a comment with "Confirmed on current package versions" enough as confirmation? <balloons> dkessel, confirming is to set the status to confirmed <balloons> it means someone besides the original poster confirm the issue <balloons> make sense? <balloons> once it's been set to confirmed it should show up to the bug folks and package maintainers to be triaged, etc, etc <dkessel> balloons: ah, right. it is only shown after clicking the arrow next to the package name. i confirmed. and then i saw that it automatically got confirmed because i also said it affects me :) * TheLordOfTime glances because he can <balloons> ahh.. didn't know that actually <TheLordOfTime> BugSquad sometimes says don't do that <TheLordOfTime> depending on the package ;) <TheLordOfTime> sorry, had to say it : <TheLordOfTime> :P * <TheLordOfTime> but in your case i think you're fine with what you did :0 <TheLordOfTime> :) * <balloons> not to reply and autoconfirm or ? <dkessel> :) <TheLordOfTime> balloons, to reply anyways <balloons> ahh <TheLordOfTime> but for the bug in question i think you're OK <TheLordOfTime> ... oops and my sbuild is breaking again :/ * TheLordOfTime walks off <Noskcaj> in raring i just got the error: "sudo: timestamp too far into the future: Jan 3 20:00:37 2013" the command then ran fine, what happend? <TheLordOfTime> dkessel, you did fine btw. <TheLordOfTime> your responding says "It also affects here, I can confirm it" works. <TheLordOfTime> usually just the initial confirmation is all :P <dkessel> phew :) <TheLordOfTime> but QA runs a tad differently than what i normally see as bug triaging, which is why i rarely touch $current_dev bugs :P <TheLordOfTime> unless i'm the one who is working on them (usually happens in cases of certain server packages) <balloons> yes yes <balloons> we's cause trouble <TheLordOfTime> :P <balloons> Noskcaj, umm that's not impossible <TheLordOfTime> balloons, hey, at least you guys find the bugs in packages that are at least coded semi-decently... <balloons> what command? <dkessel> TheLordOfTime, what server packages would that be to cause you some work? ;) <TheLordOfTime> at least you guys don't have to maintain php5 :P <TheLordOfTime> dkessel, not directly under server team purview but... nginx primarily, and php5-fpm related things. <Noskcaj> balloons, sudo apt-get upgrade. sudo apt-get update had ran fine <TheLordOfTime> outside of server, anything i say "I like this, i'll help" :P <TheLordOfTime> but generally i just do general triaging ;) * TheLordOfTime returns to fixing sbuild <TheLordOfTime> balloons, dkessel: the one thing Bug Squad, and particularly me, don't like, is seeing a thousand people post "I can confirm this" or "This happens to me." <TheLordOfTime> two or three confirming things is okayish though ;0 <TheLordOfTime> ;) * <balloons> yes.. the "me too" posts! <TheLordOfTime> its when you get a billion people posting on one bug.... :P <balloons> tacked on again and again <TheLordOfTime> mhm <dkessel> right, that's why "affects me" was created i guess <TheLordOfTime> mhm <Noskcaj> :( oem install, of all things has a bug <TheLordOfTime> me, if i care about a bug, i just subscribe to the bug :P <TheLordOfTime> although i'm already subscribed to the packages i primarily work with :P <Noskcaj> the series name you input changes nothing, at least in Vbox <balloons> Noskcaj, what do you mean <balloons> I should do an oem install again.. haven't done one yet this cycle <balloons> heh <TheLordOfTime> whoo, Lubuntu's running smoothly in VM, compared to Ubuntu <TheLordOfTime> Unity's a resource hog for VM testing of things :P <phillw> TheLordOfTime: the reason you hate that is because it raises the bug heat and actually makes someone pull their finger out and have a look at it :P <TheLordOfTime> phillw, actually, i don't like it because it causes autoconfirms and then we have to actually ask for apport information or more info for when there's not enough <TheLordOfTime> or they file against the wrong package <TheLordOfTime> and need some talking to. <TheLordOfTime> oh, and my FAVORITE thing for bug workarounds that I just absolutely want to slap people for: "Manually downgrade the libraries to a prior release's version!" <TheLordOfTime> i aplogize for the ranting, i should be ranting in a secret channel soemwhere :P <Noskcaj> balloons, let me get the bug report finished and you will hopefully understand <phillw> TheLordOfTime: we have to deal with humans, if you would stop beating the daleks up.... we would not have these problems :P <Noskcaj> bug 1095465 <ubot5> bug 1095465 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu raring oem install series name is ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095465 <phillw> TheLordOfTime: then, my suggestion is to file a bug against bug-report and dis-allow you guys being pinged against a bug until a bug has the apport information, until that point it should simply show as 'incomplete'. <TheLordOfTime> phillw, most of those that i see are server-team subscribed :P <phillw> TheLordOfTime: then, please raise a bug! I'd love to confirm it from desktop side (I get all the lubuntu related ones, such as browser, media palyer... etc). <TheLordOfTime> phillw, moment i find one i usually file it <TheLordOfTime> unless its an issue of PEBKAC and my own fault :P <phillw> TheLordOfTime: you're just picky :P try the DE bugs :D <dkessel> DE? <TheLordOfTime> desktop environment? <TheLordOfTime> or are you talking about the german bugs :P <phillw> dkessel: ^^ <phillw> lol * phillw nicotine break <Noskcaj> bug 1095465 <ubot5> bug 1095465 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu raring oem install series name is ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095465 <Noskcaj> balloons <balloons> thx <balloons> bbl #ubuntu-quality 2013-01-03 <noskcaj> I am back, on a phone, but back <noskcaj> Is someone able to confirm the oes install bug? <noskcaj> *oem <Noskcaj> is anyone able to run an oem install? <balloons> whew.. back.. umm, I will check tomorrow Noskcaj <Noskcaj> balloons, ok, see you then <TheLordOfTime> balloons, you awake yet? <TheLordOfTime> phillw, you too. <balloons> can't speak for phillw <balloons> but I'm about <TheLordOfTime> balloons, you need to read something, give me 3 seconds <TheLordOfTime> balloons, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2013-January/003000.html and related responses <TheLordOfTime> (and i betcha the IRCC would agree) <balloons> however, I appreciate om26er's efforts in raising awareness.. We do utilize this channel for other things besides bugs, and generally we're discussing and confirming bugs we find in dev releases if we do dicuss bugs <TheLordOfTime> which is why i lurk here. <TheLordOfTime> :) <TheLordOfTime> you know... <TheLordOfTime> i have a proposal: <TheLordOfTime> and i would LOVE if you could comment, bdmurray: <om26er> balloons, bdmurray I have come to senses as well, given I was a bit unclear about this channel's purpose now its cleared. So we'll try to revive our BugSquad efforts the other way <TheLordOfTime> the classroom is runing User Days in February. I think that members of QA and bugs should run a session to raise awareness (a "Bugs and QA 101") for both teams and how they coordinate with each other, and how they differ. <TheLordOfTime> also, bdmurray, there should be a "Bugs for the End User" session, giving an entry level session about bugs. <TheLordOfTime> (nobody's ever rallied for that thoug) <TheLordOfTime> or, we should have a higher QA/BugSquad presence during a more technical run of -classroom <TheLordOfTime> (heck, even have a UDS presence) <balloons> sounds good om26er I wish you the best <TheLordOfTime> ... oh COME ON <TheLordOfTime> how hard is it to keep sbuild working... * TheLordOfTime walks off <balloons> TheLordOfTime, we are having sessions this month.. gema will actually be talking about bugs <om26er> TheLordOfTime, end users better not be introduced to bugs ;) <TheLordOfTime> om26er, i meant bug reporting <TheLordOfTime> om26er, you'd be surprised how many bugs i see filed against unrelated packages :p <balloons> not from a bug squad perspective though <om26er> balloons, thanks :) <TheLordOfTime> balloons, when're you holding the session(s)? <TheLordOfTime> (its not on any calendar) * TheLordOfTime may want to lurk <balloons> we have to finalize dates <balloons> it's on the list this week to punch them down <TheLordOfTime> that'd be why its not on any calendar :P <balloons> I owe liz an email <TheLordOfTime> heh <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray, thanks for stopping in, apparently this was resolved prior to you stopping by, in case there was additional input needed from the -bugs side of thing, i wanted you to be nearby :) <TheLordOfTime> thanks much. * TheLordOfTime goes to fix his local builders now. <hggdh> actually, I propose we move the discussion to -bugs <balloons> Noskcaj, howdy <balloons> I updated the bug with my findings <Noskcaj> balloons, hello, i saw that. <Noskcaj> my reason for thinking it's a bug is that is where manufacturers name the machine e.g. dell-52845 <balloons> yes, I agree <balloons> xnox would have to tell us the intended behavoir <balloons> also, I noticed that if you change the default in oem, it's blank during user setup <Noskcaj> interesting <dkessel> i just filed bug 1095777 <ubot5> bug 1095777 in telepathy-logger (Ubuntu) "package libtelepathy-logger3 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: Versuch, Â»/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtelepathy-logger.so.3.2.0Â« zu Ã¼berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libtelepathy-logger2:amd64 0.6.0-1 ist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095777 <dkessel> to reproduce, you just need to try and update a raring vm to the current package versions. hm. thinking about it.... is this not a bug but a normal temporary issue in a development version? <balloons> dkessel, yes libtelepathy is in flux atm <balloons> I believe there is a bug on it <balloons> empathy fails to open atm, among other things <dkessel> balloons: oops... and a duplicate of it now :) <balloons> no worries <balloons> let's find it and dupe it <balloons> I was just looking at it a couple days ago <balloons> however, in general, this stuff can happen during the development cycle <dkessel> btw apport is reporting bugs automatically again in raring <dkessel> no mor 404 <balloons> yay <balloons> I didn't get an answer, but maybe they saw my request <balloons> hehe <dkessel> hm. is it better to run my vm in english? it would make the log output more useful to non-german people :) <balloons> heh.. yea, I suppose that <balloons> that's not a bad idea.. testing non-english stuff is always good <balloons> but reporting and logs in english is good <dkessel> hm. too bad i can't change the language because my package database because of libtelepathy :/ <dkessel> found the original on, marking my one as dupe (original: 1095745) <balloons> awesome, good stuff <xnox> balloons: which behavoir are you after? =) <balloons> hey xnox -- umm let me nab the bug <balloons> it's oem setup tuff <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1095465 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1095465 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu raring oem install series name is ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] <balloons> so in short, what should the series name do for the oem install? it doesn't change the machine name default <xnox> balloons: right series name has nothing to do with machine name. But it's interesting to know why that user is expecting it to be. <balloons> and additionally, if you change the machine name default it doesn't carry over to the user install <balloons> xnox, kk.. I wasn't sure. what should the series name affect? Anything? <xnox> balloons: it is suppose to store series id somewhere under /var/log/installer/*, and include them in apport bug reports as a means of identifying the batch of identical machines. <xnox> balloons: it should not change anything williamsmith@example.net. <balloons> got it.. so since we're chatting about oem installs.. can you answer the question about machine name defaults? will it only default to a machine name on the user install if you leave it alone (accept the default) on the oem install? <balloons> I expected the user install to mirror the oem install machine name.. <xnox> well. if there is network it tries to do dns lookup and use that name, if that fails we use something by default "$username-laptop" or something like that. <balloons> right.. so, your not going to use the oem machine name at all during user <balloons> so it's weird then why it came up blank for me <xnox> balloons: it is really a bad idea to ship thousands of machines all defaulting to hostname "model1000" they will collide. <xnox> balloons: black? even after you started typing your name in? <xnox> s/black/blank/ <balloons> xnox, my expectation was to default to my username - OEMname of something <balloons> regardless, yes, it was blank <balloons> I would be happy to repeat it, and file a bug.. assuming this is not expected <balloons> sounds like :-) <xnox> balloons: OEM series should be something like "thinkpad-t43-555546877-batch32-factory65-line2-shift4", e.g. nothing human sensible, but something that is uniquickly identifiable and tracable back to production line logs/batches/orders. <xnox> that would be a very ugly hostname =/ <xnox> balloons: it should not be black during the actual oem-config (i.e. when you reboot the second time as "end-user" after finalised & prepared install) <balloons> xnox, k.. I'll close with your explaination, and file a new one for the blank issue <balloons> ty ty! <xnox> ack. <balloons> hey letozaf_ <letozaf_> hello balloons <letozaf_> howzit ? <balloons> I'm looking at your merges <letozaf_> the evince and nautilus tests do not work unfortunatly <letozaf_> *unfortunately* <balloons> formatting is a bit weird tho <balloons> python has to have it's indenting be exact :-) <letozaf_> oh! let me look at them I thought they were ok <letozaf_> but can you run them or have you errors ? <letozaf_> I could run them <balloons> might just be my client <balloons> hmmm <balloons> nvm <balloons> yep, it's my client identing <balloons> hmm <balloons> are you using tabs or spaces? ideally 4 spaces <letozaf_> well usually I use tabs, sometimes spaces <letozaf_> let me see... <balloons> anyways, i'll try running them in a sec <letozaf_> yes 4 <letozaf_> they do not work :( <letozaf_> looks like evince's window does not have focus so <letozaf_> when you press F11 or F9 nothing happens <letozaf_> same with screenshot and nautilus <letozaf_> :'( <dkessel> are you guys talking about manual tests converted to autopilot tests? <balloons> gotcha.. <balloons> dkessel, yes indeed <balloons> letozaf_ has been writing some autopilot conversions <Noskcaj> letozaf_, are you going to convert the gedit testcase to leafpad, kwrite, ect. <balloons> bah.. geany is making me sad <dkessel> i read about it the other day. it looks like a nice idea. i was surprised to see that autopilot is a part of unity though. i would've thought it would be better to evolve autopilot independently of unity, and have autopilot as a dependency when running unity tests <balloons> dkessel, the latter is what's happening now <letozaf_> Noskcaj, if balloons says so yes, otherwise no <dkessel> balloons, oh - nice <balloons> hence, why we can utilize it now :-) <dkessel> hmm... the python version used is still 2.x, right? but what the hell - i might help creating/converting tests too. gives my some practice in python :) <balloons> ever written python or another language? <balloons> hehe <balloons> yea, give it a whirl <dkessel> learnt williamsmith@example.net. only just learned python3 in the christmas holidays ;) <balloons> gotcha <balloons> yea, this is relaxing stuff <letozaf_> :-D <dkessel> is there a "worklist" like at the hackfest? with who is doing what, what is needed, etc...? <balloons> dkessel, hmm.. we could easily make such a thing <balloons> bascially the list atm is to convert our existing <balloons> since we have an lp project now, I'd like to use it and not a wiki to do this <dkessel> ok :) <balloons> meaning, I'd like to put that work and assignments, etc into the project on lp if possible <balloons> not used lp in that way.. <balloons> so it's new to me, but I'm hoping/assuming it's possible <balloons> after I finish this merge I'll have a look at doing that <balloons> right now though, let me give you the list <balloons> and you can see what's in bzr and what's not, so it's easy to see what's been done / working on and what hasn't <balloons> dkessel, this is the list of package tests; http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/30/testsuites <balloons> for our purposes, we'll ignore the unity and webapp tests <letozaf_> by the way, balloons, but how are we supposed to test network manager with autopilot ? <letozaf_> I mean you need to plug in and unplug the network cable <letozaf_> to test it <letozaf_> suppose autopilot cannot do that ;) <dkessel> you underestimate the power of autopilot ;) <balloons> ROFL <balloons> you could simulate it, but I agree <balloons> hence it's why the drones can't yet replace us <letozaf_> yeah! maybe we just disable and enable networking... <balloons> they've done some neat things <dkessel> you could run the test on a dedicated machine with a simple robot attached ;) that moved the network plug in and out <balloons> faking sounds cards, etc <balloons> faking monitors <balloons> making hardware bits to fake things <letozaf_> well I would really like to see how they made the faking things... must be interesting <balloons> it is.. I should ping someone to talk a bit about it <balloons> I don't have intimate details sadly <balloons> and if I did, I don't remember them <balloons> hah! <letozaf_> :) <dkessel> balloons, i guess i should be able to convert the fileroller test, as a start. i will try it on the weekend. just so you know and nobody does duplicate work... <balloons> got it dkessel thanks! <dkessel> hm to create tests, will i still need unity source like it says here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/QA/Autopilot? or can i get autopilot "standalone" from somewhere else? <balloons> no, you don't need unity * balloons goes to look at link <balloons> dkessel, if possible have a look at my blog posts <balloons> goes through writing a testcase (converting one actually) <balloons> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/ <dkessel> ah i see, nice <dkessel> *sigh* me and my "old" precise... <balloons> umm.. <balloons> well, you might skate by running precise <balloons> use the autopilot ppa <dkessel> *checks ppa* <balloons> you may have to use the quantal version.. but I'm guessing you could kludge it <letozaf_> dkessel, what about using a virutal machine... should work <letozaf_> create a VM in Virtualbox for autopilot tests <letozaf_> with quantal <dkessel> alright :) you guys are right <balloons> nothing wrong with precise btw.. I use it on my netbook <balloons> and quantal on my wife's box <balloons> but I'm always running ubuntu+1 <dkessel> i'm doing it the other way around... on my normal private laptop (this one) i run precise, for stability and less daily frustration ;) on the netbooks i run raring <letozaf_> yeah on my notebook I've got Quantal and Raring, but there's always a free partition for tests so if I need I can install Precise <letozaf_> the advantage of a VM is that you do not have to reboot <balloons> lol.. yea, daily frustration i suppose is part of the fun.. haha <balloons> but yea precise is really nice <letozaf_> balloons, could you run the evince test ? <dkessel> on a netbook, would you normally run x64 or i386? <balloons> I run 64tput.pdf <letozaf_> yeah you're running evince test :) (tput.pdf) <balloons> lol <balloons> yes I am <dkessel> :D <dkessel> hmm just re-installing raring daily on one of my netbooks and the trackpad is not working <dkessel> let's see if that stops me from installing <balloons> keyboard commands ftw <dkessel> i guess there should still be options displayed in the boot menu when booting from the iso? <balloons> umm if you press something <balloons> else it just boots <dkessel> ok <letozaf_> balloons, I'm going to bed now it's quite late. let me know about the tests :) <balloons> yes, I will <balloons> I'll check them in <balloons> no matter what <balloons> you did have tabs in there, so I'm killing them and using 4 spaces <balloons> I'll merge nautilus tests too <letozaf_> ok <balloons> ohh one thing <letozaf_> the screenshot, nautilus and evince tests have problems <letozaf_> yes? <balloons> this output.pdf thing <balloons> where is it created? <letozaf_> under Documents directory in the users home dir <balloons> yes, but how is it created? <balloons> ohh nvm <balloons> I see <balloons> kk <letozaf_> Well I open help with F1 <balloons> yep,. i get it <balloons> g-night <letozaf_> ok buona notte :) <letozaf_> hope we find a way to fix them :) <letozaf_> bye <balloons> kk <balloons> hey welcome ;-) <veebers> balloons: hello :-) <balloons> hey.. you missed our earlier discussions.. but it will be nice to have you lurking <balloons> alright, so bzr branch lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests has letzoaf's code in tit <thomi> balloons: ok, got it. Which tests should I be looking at? <balloons> well, I was working on evince, which was the pending merge <thomi> ahhh, I see the issue <balloons> specifically, there's a few open ?'s comment lines in there <balloons> I and other folks have just left comment lines when we couldn't actually perform the task ;-) <thomi> basically, 'self.start_app_window' isn't what you want to use. I'll write a short test case and push up a separate branch so you can see it working <thomi> I'll do something simple - gedit maybe' <balloons> ok, there is a gedit case <balloons> umm in there, there's several gaps.. checking for windows or panels opening.. or for text, etc <balloons> regardless.. yes.. show me the light ;-0 <thomi> hmm, gedit is doing some really strange things. <thomi> like, when I open it, the default tab shows a 'busy' spinner in the tab header, and doesn't accept any keyboard input * thomi investigates <balloons> ahh.. yea, when I tried messing with introspection on gedit, it was quite odd * thomi swears <thomi> alesage: are you aware that the autopilot-gtk package (in raring anyway) is essentially empty? <thomi> alesage: this is the contents of the package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493751/ <alesage> thomi brrtwha? <thomi> no gtk module installed <alesage> thomi sorry let me investigate <thomi> no worries - I'll try building a local package <balloons> thomi.. well, it's late for me now #ubuntu-quality 2013-01-04 <balloons> umm, want to just commit something, and we'll chat about it tomorrow/ <thomi> balloons: sure <balloons> same time, same place :-) <balloons> thanks mate <thomi> balloons: if I get somethng working I'll email you <thomi> no worries <balloons> i hope you do <balloons> that would be excellent <Amacidia> Hi everyone. Names David. I just emailed the ubuntu-quality list about an hour ago and was told this channel is a good place to communicate with other testers. I wouldn't say that I am an expert ubuntu user, but I have ubuntu experience, specifically with server. I'm hoping to start ISO testing soon. <Amacidia> Apparently there are some learning sessions coming up ? <Amacidia> That might be some handy training <Noskcaj> Amacidia, yes, the dates aren't set in stone but they should be done by the end of the month <Amacidia> Excellent, thanks Noskcaj <Noskcaj> np, you might want to install testdrive, it's very useful <Amacidia> That is what I'm planning to do <Amacidia> I have a i5 with 4gigs of ram. Between ubuntu 12.10 and testdrive, I hope it works out! <Noskcaj> should do fine, just change testdrive to use 1gb of ram, ubuntu only uses one <juggalonaut1> noskcaj im in <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, hello, don't expect much talk in here for a few more hours. is your system up und running enough to do a few tests that i will run you through? <juggalonaut1> yes <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, first, join this https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa and the mailing list. then install testdrive and virtualbox from the software centre, ping me when you're done <juggalonaut1> i have done the mailing list earlier today and ok <Noskcaj> the lubuntu one? some info on irc nicknames(we should have a wiki on this): phillw=phill whiteside, balloons=the boss=nicholas skaggs, ask me for anyone one else <Noskcaj> and pressing tab finishes peoples names * phillw grr @ Noskcaj for false ping :P <Noskcaj> lol, anything you wanted to add? <Noskcaj> Amacidia, pay attention, this will help you as well <Noskcaj> once you have testdrive and vbox, open testdrive <phillw> Noskcaj: well, if you refer to someone in chat, break their name up... ball_oons is the name, but will not cause a ping, just as Nosk_aj or gili_r etc will not ping them when we are just chatting :D <Noskcaj> phillw, i know, i didn't break b'alloons's up because he's not online and i didn't for yours because i'm funny * phillw 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abSIGH33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab and I'm dealing with a user on FB getting them secure in their mind to actually trust Tor to hide their foot-print? I think you know that person... <Noskcaj> lol <juggalonaut1> they are installed <phillw> Noskcaj: ... poke <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, open testdrive, the go edit, preference. phillw hello <Noskcaj> done? <juggalonaut1> going <phillw> Noskcaj: please answer you PM <juggalonaut1> yes <Noskcaj> make sure release = raring, then go to the virtualisation tab <juggalonaut1> i am in prefrences <juggalonaut1> there <Noskcaj> take your pick on hypervisor, i use vbox, phill uses kvm. make sure memory is 1024mb. i have to go for a sec, i will be back soon <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> that is done <Noskcaj> next tab. pick what distro's you want to test, then restart testdrive <Noskcaj> downlaod an iso through testdrive <juggalonaut1> its opening now <juggalonaut1> how do you download the iso via testdrive <Noskcaj> tick it then press sync <juggalonaut1> ok <Noskcaj> http://planet.ubuntu.com/ is a compilation of community blogs, quite interesting. http://qa.ubuntu.com/ is the testing homepage. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is the iso tracker, where you submit results from daily installs. http://package.qa.ubuntu.com/ is the package tracker, only active in candence weeks. can't think of anything else you will need to know. <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> im at 24% <Noskcaj> kk <juggalonaut1> 83% <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, what iso are you downloading? <juggalonaut1> mythbuntu <Noskcaj> note the what <Noskcaj> ok? <juggalonaut1> its the other type of linux i have wanted to try <juggalonaut1> i use ubuntu tho <juggalonaut1> i know it by heart <juggalonaut1> its done launching now <Noskcaj> ok <balloons> good night all.. <balloons> thanks for filling folks in Noskcaj <Noskcaj> balloons, np. you were on? <Noskcaj> sorry for the ping then <balloons> no no.. lol, I just got on, and noticed the time <balloons> :-) <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/33052/testcases has the current testcases for mythbuntu amd64, please run one, record any errors you find <Noskcaj> and as a comment write "run in Vbox" or "run in KVM", i advise against kvm as it is temporarily broken <juggalonaut1> hey noskcaj its saying my cu is not compatable i need pae for it <juggalonaut1> cpu*** <juggalonaut1> i use vbox <Noskcaj> sigh, i thought that might happen. did you install Vbox? <juggalonaut1> yes <Noskcaj> open it <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> should i shut down the already open vbox <Noskcaj> yes, but remember its name(at the top) <juggalonaut1> ok <Noskcaj> find the vm you where just running, e.g. testdrive-16 <Noskcaj> select it, click settings <juggalonaut1> its open and it was testdrive 5 and its selected <Noskcaj> open settings(for it), go system, click the cpu tab <juggalonaut1> im seeing processor not cpu <Noskcaj> oops, yeah, that. now toggle pae/nx <juggalonaut1> ok and im getting a error message about my ram <juggalonaut1> its saying not enough is left for my host os <Noskcaj> oh, how much ram do you have? <juggalonaut1> 1.10 gigs altho i have ran a windows virtual on this same computer before and it was fine with the same ram <Noskcaj> yeah, no vm testing for you unless you run xubuntu or lubuntu <Noskcaj> you could try only 512 for vbox <juggalonaut1> lol ok and i will try that <Noskcaj> but i doubt it will work <juggalonaut1> im trying now ill let you know <juggalonaut1> its loading <juggalonaut1> it is currently running <juggalonaut1> i am at the home screen <Noskcaj> :), now try to finish a testcase <juggalonaut1> ok i need a lil help with that <Noskcaj> ok, i dont have a mythbuntu iso, whats the problem <juggalonaut1> how od i finish a testcaseis m Q <juggalonaut1> do** <juggalonaut1> my* <Noskcaj> idk, mythbuntu confuses me, please get a different iso and tell me which one <juggalonaut1> ok what one do you know <Noskcaj> i recommend xubuntu as it is low ram usage, as is lubuntu <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> downloading <Noskcaj> so xubuntu amd64? <juggalonaut1> i only have a 32 cpu <juggalonaut1> altho i am able to run a 64 on it <Noskcaj> oh, then can you do lubuntu i386 <juggalonaut1> i run 64 ubuntu on a 32 cpu sometimes <Noskcaj> ok, take your pick. you should have 64bit though <juggalonaut1> lol ok <Noskcaj> its not a 64nit cpu then <juggalonaut1> i hate swapiness <Noskcaj> ok <juggalonaut1> i forgot to drop it to 10% <Noskcaj> you do xubuntu i386 i will do xubuntu Amd64 <Noskcaj> lol <juggalonaut1> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-40 <juggalonaut1> i guess i do have a 64 <tgm4883> questions on mythbuntu? <juggalonaut1> were wondering how to finish the testing <tgm4883> is there a confusing part somewhere? <tgm4883> link? <juggalonaut1> no we are just going to do xubuntu <Noskcaj> the testcase in general confuses me, thats why i dont test it <Noskcaj> ping me when your download has finished <juggalonaut1> noskcaj im at 40% on download <tgm4883> well if it's confusing, we should see why <Noskcaj> k <juggalonaut1> do you know of a way to lower swappiness w/o restarting the computer <Noskcaj> afternoon pitti_ <juggalonaut1> do you know of a way to lower swappiness w/o restarting the computer <pitti_> Good morning <pitti> hey Noskcaj <pitti> happy new year everyone! <Noskcaj> happy new year, only 4 days late <juggalonaut1> i was gona say that lol <juggalonaut1> so anyone have any idea on how to change the swappiness without restarting the computer <Noskcaj> no <Noskcaj> !wait <ubot5> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ <tgm4883> by this time, you could have just restarted the computer <Noskcaj> lol <Noskcaj> tgm4883, isn't it meant to be step by step like everything else? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/33052/testcases/1442/results <juggalonaut1> ok thank you and i dont like to shut off my computer when im downloading a iso <tgm4883> Noskcaj, isn't that step by step? <Noskcaj> just untick the iso, it keeps what it downloaded <Noskcaj> i'm only 26% anyway <tgm4883> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1442/info <juggalonaut1> im almost done <Noskcaj> tgm4883, not really, compared it to the other testcases, anyone should be able to understand <tgm4883> hmm <tgm4883> Noskcaj, I'm guessing your issue is with "Go though the Ubiquity install as you would any other install. Most options won't matter for this testcase, but be sure to choose the following options" <Noskcaj> exactly <tgm4883> I suppose I could write that all out, but I wasn't sure it was necessary. I've listed the only options that should matter <tgm4883> I wrote the testcase with the thought that anyone using the test case, would have done an Ubiquity install before <juggalonaut1> i am restarting my computer ill be back on in like 3 min <tgm4883> Noskcaj, would listing what page each bullet point is on make it more easy to understand? Or do I really need to write out every step? <Noskcaj> tgm4883, i don't really know, talk to balloons tomorrow. he might add it to the testcase jam wiki page <tgm4883> ok <juggalonaut1> i am back <juggalonaut1> do you have the install done noskcaj <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, ok, i'm on 85%. start and the click the release notes link <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> after the pae thing again <Noskcaj> do the same workaround :( <juggalonaut1> yea <juggalonaut1> i think i will always half to lol its ok <juggalonaut1> lower ram also <Noskcaj> you will, until someone fixes the bug <juggalonaut1> ehhh its ok <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, so you should see bug 1065789 and bug 1080437. add the to the bugs category <ubot5> bug 1065789 in ubuntu-website-content "the release notes link in installer points to www.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065789 <ubot5> bug 1080437 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "no background during the 13.04 daily install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080437 <Noskcaj> thanks ubot5 <Noskcaj> !botsnack <ubot5> Yum! Err, I mean, APT! <juggalonaut1> where would this be all i see is a message to upgrade bios but it bypasses it <Noskcaj> keep waiting, that means nothing <juggalonaut1> ok im at the install screen <Noskcaj> click release notes <Noskcaj> it loads ubuntu.com does it not? <juggalonaut1> yes it does <Noskcaj> close that, the lack of a background is the other bug, click install xubuntu <juggalonaut1> ok <juggalonaut1> should i go through the full install <Noskcaj> if you tick "install third party software" the installer freezes for about 5 minutes. bug 1087409 <ubot5> bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu dailys take 3 minutes to get to the next screen if install mp3 is selected." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087409 <Noskcaj> click next <Noskcaj> *continue <Noskcaj> are you running the manual partitioning testcase? <juggalonaut1> going to it now <Noskcaj> k, add the three bugs seen so far <juggalonaut1> the something else option right <Noskcaj> yep <Noskcaj> click new partition table <Noskcaj> then continue, repeat. bug 1087823 appears <ubot5> bug 1087823 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "in the manual partitioning page the "new partition table" gets more buttons every time you click it" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087823 <juggalonaut1> it is not showing any bugs or anything at all its just going like there is nothing wrong <Noskcaj> really? <juggalonaut1> yea <Noskcaj> click new partition table again <juggalonaut1> i have a black background
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