#ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-06 <IDWMaster> Hi. I'd like to vote to have Unity not send search data to Amazon by default. <IDWMaster> A number of my friends have been complaining about that being the default setting and are concerned about Ubuntu's direction because of it. <IDWMaster> The addition of: <IDWMaster> Amazon <IDWMaster> and Commercial apps in the Software Center <IDWMaster> has caused concern amongst a lot of people regarding Ubuntu's direction <TheLordOfTime> uh... <TheLordOfTime> isn't that only for the shopping lens? <TheLordOfTime> and I thought that was able to be disabled by hand? <AlanBell> gosh, voting has opened on that issue, I must have missed the memo <IdleOne> I vote we close the vote until am election has been announced. <IdleOne> welcome <AlanBell> PrincessLuna: hi <PrincessLuna> Hi <IdleOne> PrincessLuna: like you mentioned a banner on the home page would be IMHO a legal problem for Ubuntu/Canonical. <AlanBell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1040557 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Fix committed] <PrincessLuna> IdleOne: Why? <PrincessLuna> AlanBell: I've seen that now <IdleOne> Samsung could turn around and say Ubuntu is damaging their reputation <AlanBell> I don't think it would be a legal problem really <AlanBell> nah, they did the damage themselves <IdleOne> right, but anyone looking to buy a Samsung laptop may google and land on the Ubuntu website and see "Samsung Sucks" paraphrasing of course <PrincessLuna> IdleOne: Not a banner saying "Samsung is bad, boycott Samsung" but rather a notice saying "do not install on Samsung XXX because of bug XXX that may brick the laptop" <AlanBell> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/22028.html <IdleOne> They added that info in the release notes which I think is sufficient if someone does a little research <IdleOne> PrincessLuna: unfortunately you got bit by the bug and found out to late :/ <PrincessLuna> I'm pretty sure people will be bricking laptops for years to come because 12.04 is an LTS <PrincessLuna> IdleOne: I knew that Ubuntu worked on other ultrabooks with identical specs so I thought it would be safe <IdleOne> if they do it'll be because they didn't do a little research <IdleOne> doesn't seem to be a hardware bug though <IdleOne> other machines with the exact same hardware may not have the same firmware <AlanBell> to be fair I would completely have fallen into that too and bricked my laptop <IdleOne> I never check the release notes either <IdleOne> gotta run out for milk :/ <PrincessLuna> I checked the release notes, I think I read that issue but it didn't strike me that it affected that laptop as I was about to install. Wasn't even thinking about it. <AlanBell> :( <AlanBell> I think if you send the laptop back they should replace it <PrincessLuna> The problem is that he purchased this computer overseas. No warranty on it where I live. <AlanBell> hmm <AlanBell> blog it and tweet about it and make a fuss <PrincessLuna> lol <AlanBell> samsung should do a recall for this <AlanBell> not particularly because it is brickable via installing ubuntu or fedora <AlanBell> but this means that it is brickable by any software that wants to poke at that bit of memory <ubuntubhoy> they wont, same as with their phone bugs <jussi> PrincessLuna: seriously though, AlanBell is correct. <jussi> [15:06:47] <AlanBell> blog it and tweet about it and make a fuss <PrincessLuna> jussi: Haha don't have time for that. I have two options 1) Refund him 2) Give him my thinkpad twist (which is still shipping) when it arrives and use my netbook a bit longer as main computer :(. <AlanBell> maybe contact a local samsung dealer and ask them what to do <AlanBell> but blogging it would really be a good idea <PrincessLuna> And how would blogging it help? <IdleOne> unhappy customers making a fuss == possible loss of profits. They would rather give you a free laptop and show the potential customers "what a nice" company they are <PrincessLuna> IdleOne: Only problem is that it isn't my laptop! <IdleOne> I guess you're out of options. <IdleOne> wait. <IdleOne> <AlanBell> maybe contact a local samsung dealer and ask them what to do <AlanBell> if it is written up somewhere we can direct a ton of attention on it, from canonical and more importantly samsung <AlanBell> they really don't like negative publicity <AlanBell> PrincessLuna: doesn't matter that it isn't your laptop <AlanBell> in fact that makes it a more interesting story <IdleOne> you're the voice of the "oppressed " Speak loud so you can be heard! <IdleOne> or be herded <PrincessLuna> Ok got it booting Windows 7. Removed battery and Cmos battery then put them back and its working. That's a relief! <AlanBell> wasn't that problem at all then <PrincessLuna> Now I just have to give it back tomorrow. <AlanBell> when the samsungs are bricked they are dead <PrincessLuna> AlanBell: Really? I read this http://www.anandtech.com/show/6713/samsung-laptops-bricked-by-booting-linux-using-uefi and the last part encouraged me to try this <AlanBell> ooh, interesting <AlanBell> that would be a good thing to add to bug 1040557 then <ubot5> bug 1040557 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040557 <PrincessLuna> Anyway, problem solved. I'm not installing Ubuntu on this. <AlanBell> fedora too <Tm_T> hmm <AlanBell> or don't use uefi mode <PrincessLuna> Linux kernels with the samsung driver enabled in general. I'll tell him to use virtualbox if he wants <PrincessLuna> AlanBell: Not worth the risk, also if he rests bios/EFI settings to defaults it might re-brick <PrincessLuna> resets <AlanBell> true <PrincessLuna> Hopefully my ultrabook won't have these problems. But its a thinkpad so I think it should be safe. #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-08 <Bluefoxicy> Really wishing for a system download manager here <Bluefoxicy> Got a 1GB file downloading in Chrome and if the connection drops in the middle of it or Chrome crashes (which happens with relative frequency--it got an update a week ago and ceased to function until restarted) I have to start over <Bluefoxicy> and chromium won't reveal the downloading URL, and it's non-trivial to get out of the download landing page because stupid people. <avorp> Test <avorp> Hi all,. <avorp> I need help with making a boota <avorp> *I need help in making a bootable usb linux live <avorp> On this computer I haven't permissions to install software, so I need someone to upload the installed version. #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-12 <wolfbyte> I believe that if Rhythmbox had some pre-loaded internet radio stations, it would make for a good first time user experience... <wolfbyte> just my $0.02 <k1l_> wolfbyte: i do have some radio stations in here that came ootb <wolfbyte> for example, I have TuneIn Radio app on my Android, and I can use it out of the box because it has preloaded channels <wolfbyte> k1l_: how come I dont have any channels on my Ubuntu 12.04 ? <k1l_> but tunein doesnt come preinstalled <k1l_> i have a 12.10 which is an upgraded 11.10. nd in rhythmbox i have channels included. make sure you have the plugins checked or the rhyhthmbox packages installed needed for that <k1l_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/rhythmbox-radio-browser like that? <wolfbyte> ok, installed it just now. Now to figure out how it works <wolfbyte> hmmm, no plugin <wolfbyte> this plugin isn't available in rhythmbox even after installation, and i'm on 12.04 <wolfbyte> shame, it would have been exactly what i needed <wolfbyte> screw it, I'm gonna use TuneIn website <wolfbyte> thnx anyway <AlanBell> genii-around: boo <genii-around> AlanBell: Maybe it needs a forward from -debate to -discuss LOL <AlanBell> maybe <tiox1> Hey, what was that one software that came with a red-letter legal warning? <Calinou> mscorefonts? <tiox1> No, it was something along the lines of "By using this softare you are potentially breaking the law" blahdeblah <Calinou> must be a mp3 decoder in the usa! #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-18 <gh0sthead> hi <gh0sthead> does anyone know when the ubuntu phone will be available in europe? <gh0sthead> and who's going to sell it? <popey> gh0sthead: nope <mattwj2002> hi guys #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-19 <AlanBell> 6 and a bit hours \o/ <AlanBell> woot \o/ <AlanBell> anyone know what the excitement is about? <jussi> AlanBell: a tablet maybe? :D <AlanBell> paracetamol for humans? <jussi> AlanBell: hahaha <DJones> Nah, it'll be an announcement that Ubuntu will be powering the new computers in the abbotoirs producing Soylent Green to put an and to the horsemeat scandal <DJones> s/and/end/ <DJones> -> Soylent green tablets (Or maybe Soylent aubergine tablets) <jussi> DJones: hahaha <IdleOne> htc.com is ~2 minutes faster <IdleOne> make that 1 minute <IdleOne> OMG OMG OMG 39 minutes!!!!! <IdleOne> OMG OMG OMG 18 minutes!!!!! <k1l> IdleOne: i cant stand it. tell me whats gonna happen, nao!!11 <IdleOne> k1l: Canonical is going to announce a merger with HTC and kick out Microsoft!!! <IdleOne> 100% made up ^ <k1l> :) <k1l> you are sure its 100% made up? :) <IdleOne> never know :P <genii-around> I wonder if the HTC 8x could run Ubuntu after that... <IdleOne> it will be renamed the HTCanonical One <k1l> i see, IdleOne read all the conspiracy theories from the interwebz <IdleOne> I read nothing. <hkall> soâ¦ anyone know if there will be Ubuntu phone images built for Galaxy S2 (i9100)? <Calinou> since you used "â¦", no. <Calinou> :> <Calinou> only OS X users dare to use â¦ <k1l> hkall: the specialists sit in #ubuntu-phone ; but i dont think that every phone will get images to flash. its mentioned that google nexus and nexus4 are supported from the start <Noorideen> k1l, :) <Tatuus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5_4fXQcxFRs <zykotick9> so ubuntu did announce a tablet... so now there's ubunu=fail on both the phone and table fronts. freedom = ftw, ubuntu = no-so-much. <k1l> i dont really get what you are trying to say <zykotick9> k1l: i'd say canonical is trying to become Apple 2.0, basically. i won't trust my data to canonical (or anyone else for that matter). it's sad, i used to like ubuntu so much... now... no so much ;) <zykotick9> this move to mobile/tablets, is just another front in the "providing advertisements" campaign <zykotick9> and "data about users to advertisers" <k1l> ok, so where exactly is ubuntu touching your freedom? <zykotick9> k1l: ubuntu NOW, guarantees it's users don't have it... <k1l> i dont see it that worst case szenario you are trying to draw here <k1l> i know you are relating to the rms spyware issue. but first: do you use a rms-holy-freedom-distribution yourself? even debian is not on the bright side from rms. second: you heard about the changes that are meant to be introduced for 13.04 on the desktop? <zykotick9> canoncial though: ubuntu, ubuntuone, phone and now tablet. have provided a software eco-system, that doesn't respect user's rights, and is basically just spyware - thats primary objective is financial benefit for it's owner(s). "ubuntu" has become a sad distortion of what that word is suppose to mean. <zykotick9> the change that isn't a change at all - according to slashdot the other day. OR, the KDE dev that says ubuntu-phone is a bait-n-switch tactic - also covered on slashdot in the last few days <k1l> erm. you know that "the owner" paid alot until now and i dont see he will get his money back anytime soon :) <k1l> so dont come with the profite thingy <zykotick9> good for him, bad for users. <zykotick9> but who cares about users... not canonical. <k1l> good for him that he paid everyone to get free ubuntu cds shipped the last years. yes <k1l> zykotick9: c'mon <k1l> that is lowest niveau of discussing <zykotick9> k1l: ubuntu's distain for users is pretty well documented... starting from 10.04's moving the buttons, and "won't fix" as reply to bugs. <k1l> zykotick9: comon <zykotick9> but ubuntu isn't a "community" project - it's a propritary one that happens to have a big naive free (as in cost) labour force <k1l> you can put 99% of "the users" critics into the trash <zykotick9> yes as "depressed hipsters" <k1l> i know the critics about the windowbuttons move, or the unity as standard desktop introduction: "nobody can work with that" <k1l> sry, that is no constructive critics <k1l> i see alot of "gnome2 fanboys" hating on ubuntu. but that is the wrong target <zykotick9> yes, the "target" audience appears to be "people who don't know better" and are willing to give canonical they're money, or personal data - either will do. <k1l> zykotick9: i see noone giving canonical money <k1l> most ubuntu critics state that they want linux to become more marketshare. but they refuse to take changes. that is not working <zykotick9> k1l: really? how do you get around without your eyes open? ubuntuone storage/ubuntuone music <k1l> zykotick9: aha. so canonical nearly stealing money from the user <k1l> zykotick9: what is wrong with ubuntuone music or storage? <zykotick9> oh, the services (though bad) probably isn't anything compared to handing user data over to 3rd parties like facebook/twitter/amazon/etc. <k1l> so your critics is: windowbuttons to the left, ubuntuone (music and storage) and the unity search <k1l> ever thought of the unity desktop with the global menue and the window buttons on the right? <k1l> that would ruin the whole concept, dont you think? <zykotick9> k1l: my "cristism" is that ubuntu WAS a cool user-friendly-debian that i could recommend to anyone. now ubuntu is a spyware/corporate/data-mining machine... <k1l> aha, here we go <k1l> first: you know even debian is not the freedom distribution? <zykotick9> k1l: wrong. though FSF and DFSG don't always align. <k1l> and the reason you didnt recommend debian was, it wasnt cool and didnt have the service as ubuntu. <zykotick9> debian? what? ubuntu WAS a user-friendly-debian. i haven't mentioned debian. <k1l> user-friednly-debian mentions debian <k1l> personally im not using the amazon lense myself and i would recommend to make a opt-in for personal-data related searches. but there is no way for me to hop onto the shitstorm that is going on <k1l> and i see where the benefits of a global search could get. <k1l> i mean most critics you mentioned here was nothing but bias: window buttons, ubuntuone,... <zykotick9> when the community/freesoftware is gone from ubuntu - there really isn't a reason for all ubuntu users to just switch to Apples. they probably should. <k1l> zykotick9: ok so you say users should stick to apple or http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html <zykotick9> k1l: i'm saying there really isn't a difference NOW between ubuntu and OSX. but maybe OSX is technically superior - and if that's your only argument, why not use what's best? <TheLordOfTime> you're forgetting something about OSX <TheLordOfTime> its closed source <TheLordOfTime> as well, diagnosing issues with it is nigh impossible unless you've hacked away at the restrictions on OSX <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: so is ubuntu... or much of it, these days. <k1l> zykotick9: im not saying that. i was just summarizing what you are saysing <zykotick9> i hate OSX for the record ;) <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, show me evidence of that and i'll listen, otherwise, the MAJORITY of Ubuntu minus drivers/kernel is open source <k1l> zykotick9: where is closed source? <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, because in Ubuntu, we can modify the base of the OS, the kernel, as we want. <TheLordOfTime> thereby allowing free customization, we can't do that in OSX <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: steam ring any bells. that appears to be the major issue in #ubuntu theses days <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, steam's a beta program <TheLordOfTime> and its got its own channel <TheLordOfTime> i send steam users there <TheLordOfTime> steam's also not TECHNICALLY part of the repos last i checked <zykotick9> customization and ubuntu don't belong in the same sentence ;) <TheLordOfTime> unless its hiding <k1l> zykotick9: so steam is ubuntus closed source? <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, saying Steam is a majority of ubuntu <zykotick9> k1l: of course - it's non-free software? <TheLordOfTime> and then SAYING ubuntu is closed source... <k1l> TheLordOfTime: they have their own repo <TheLordOfTime> that's just pure blasphemy and you should be slapped <k1l> zykotick9: gotcha. so debian is out of the businee too <zykotick9> ok i'll slap myself... not. <TheLordOfTime> k1l, my point exactly, its not technically part of Ubuntu itself, its third-party software not included in ubuntu, therefore you can't call Ubuntu closed source b ecause of it. <popey> +1 <popey> the contents of the cd is not closed <zykotick9> popey: ahhh, i don't think that's true... <k1l> zykotick9: first of all that steam thing is not true. and second you just told some minutes ago that debian is ok to have that closed and unfree stuff <popey> zykotick9: what's not closed? <popey> er, what's closed on the cd <zykotick9> popey: aren't there drivers for nvidia/amd on there these days? <k1l> zykotick9: so as i saied earlier: you are just hopping on the shitstorm <popey> we've always shipped hardware enablement components like nvidia drivers and firmware for network cards <popey> that's not changed <zykotick9> popey: so, it's NOT free/open... what was your point? <popey> 21:23:48 < zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: so is ubuntu... or much of it, these days. <popey> "much of it" <TheLordOfTime> LIES <popey> is wildly inaccurate <TheLordOfTime> BLASPHEMY <TheLordOfTime> your statement is lies and blasphemy there, zykotick9 <zykotick9> k1l: hopping on the shitstorm? i was a ubuntu users for a couple of years <TheLordOfTime> as popey is pointing out. <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: BLASPHEM is a religious statement, is ubuntu your religion? my goodness... <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, you could call Ubuntu my religion, i'm EXTREMELY biased towards it and argue for it against the nay-sayers on other lionux forums and blogs. <k1l> zykotick9: most of your critics is inaccurate in comparison to debian (which you mentioned to be the good one) <TheLordOfTime> :p <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: oh man. that's so sad. you worship a company... you might as well worship at the alter of apple (no difference) <k1l> zykotick9: there are points to argue about, like i said myself (opt-in, etc). but just beeing picky in ubuntu's case and say "nah that is all free" in debian case is not right, imho <zykotick9> k1l: debian "main" is 100% libre/free software... yes there is contrib/non-free (which is a choice users can make, to deny there own freedom if they wish) <TheLordOfTime> zykotick9, i'm going to ignore your last statement for the sake of this channel, i don't want to expose it to a hellstorm <TheLordOfTime> having said that, your statement about "most of ubuntu" being closed source is just WRONG <TheLordOfTime> and you need to reexamine your statements with a fine toothed comb. <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: you're right "most" is certainly NOT the case... <TheLordOfTime> failure to comply is illogical, as is your initial statement. <k1l> zykotick9: there are not so many users in the world who thing that this definition of free is the first rule to an operating system <zykotick9> k1l: and that's sad. <k1l> that is the reason linux never was attractive to the mainstream <k1l> until ubuntu started <zykotick9> who cares if it's mainstream or not? <k1l> zykotick9: who cares? <zykotick9> oh canoncial/ubuntu does - sorry. <k1l> the ones who want companys to produce drivers and programs for linux aswell <zykotick9> more $$$ <TheLordOfTime> and now you're arguing that canonical and ubuntu are the same individual entity. <zykotick9> TheLordOfTime: they are... <k1l> there are alot of those users who would like to step back from the closed systems <zykotick9> k1l: not ubuntu users, they don't know any better. <TheLordOfTime> right... my initial conclusion that you are insane is now confirmed, and i'm going to go do something productive. like bugs triage. <k1l> zykotick9: you forget one point in your argumentation: besides the big names like rms etc not every coder that contributes to free software gets paid for it if there wasnt some "evil companys" paing them <k1l> zykotick9: and i would stop refering to ubuntu users as they all were just plain dumb. <k1l> that is very arrogant from your side <popey> lets refrain from personal attacks <zykotick9> k1l: i have 0 problems with free-software people getting paid. but if your only goal is $$$ then you'll do things VERY differently. see canonical as example, sell your user data to 3rd parties. <popey> this channel (like all in the ubuntu namespace) expects everyone to adhere to our code of conduct <k1l> zykotick9: does it sell userdata? <zykotick9> popey: TheLordOfTime is gone. and i'm pretty sure i didn't sink to that level ;) <zykotick9> k1l: how do you think it gets money from amazon exactly? <popey> the same way anyone with an amazon affiliate scheme does <popey> by tagging urls and people buying stuff <k1l> zykotick9: and i didnt say i want the money. i said i want people to become proper drivers from the manufacturer and software <k1l> zykotick9: that only happens if the manufacturer sees a market in linux and thinks he can make money with selling devices to this market. <zykotick9> k1l: i hear ya. drivers are certainly a good thing (even closed source drivers) - reason i boycott AMD/ATI and only purchase nvidia. <k1l> zykotick9: so like the rhythmbox guys did just before? <zykotick9> k1l: the rhythmbox things was another "not good" move my ubuntu <k1l> zykotick9: there are alot of software still just programmed for windows. so many users still have to use this. that is because linux is still not a market to target <k1l> zykotick9: ok, but rhyhtmbox is ok by getting amazon money? <k1l> zykotick9: you see the bias you are having= <k1l> ? <zykotick9> k1l: they wrote the software, ubuntu tried to steal the money. you don't see issue with that? (i'm NOT saying rhythmbox is right in it either!) <k1l> zykotick9: and: rhythmbox made more money with the % they got from ubuntus amazon ref links because they got the standard music player than before <k1l> zykotick9: you are wrong <IdleOne> I seriously doubt there was any intentional theft involved. <k1l> you cant steal money that is not present <zykotick9> IdleOne: as if you stuck your nose into with - with a voice of reason ;) <popey> Uhm. <k1l> if they had taken another programm as music player rhythmbox wouldnt got any money. <zykotick9> s/with/this/ <popey> It was Banshee which we changed the referal link for, not Rhythmbox <k1l> popey: oh sry. i got this wrong <zykotick9> Banshee is mono-crap. a good move ubuntu dumped that. <IdleOne> Why would it be ok for the app devs to make money from the app but not the distribution platform of said app? <popey> We didn't "dump" it, it's still in the repository. <popey> Anyway, this is all very entertaining if you like being trolled, so I'm going to wander off. Cheerio. <zykotick9> IdleOne: well, the app devs wrong teh software - including the pay scheme. what did the distro do? use that software - that's it. <k1l> zykotick9: im out of this discussion since you still couldnt convince me that your state of view is nothing else then biased. <zykotick9> k1l: we are all biased. you, and everyone here, has a pro-ubuntu bias, mine's just different then yours. <IdleOne> Ubuntu is a major distributor of all these apps. I don't think banshee or any other app could make nearly as much money without the existence of Ubuntu. Canonical being a major distributor should be able to make a % of that money. <zykotick9> and does ubuntu have the right to determine that %? 'cause in that case, they decided unilaterally. <IdleOne> They do. <IdleOne> like any contract, things get negotiated <IdleOne> assuming that Canonical took the money and didn't pay intentionally is wrong. <zykotick9> there was no negotiation in that case? ubuntu just changed to code. which they have the right to do legally (with free software) but morally? <IdleOne> the licence removes the morality in my opinion, the dev knows full well what rights he is giving up. Again, I seriously doubt that Canonical did anything wrong intentionally and aiui they rectified that situation, popey can probably conform this. <popey> ye olde news <zykotick9> k1l: thanks for the discussion. take care all. i doubt i'll return ;) so in closing, ubuntu has become an immoral distro. <popey> google knows the answer to this <zykotick9> IdleOne: take care! <IdleOne> Do you really think Mark needs the money? <popey> trolololo <k1l> i dont agree with the closing <IdleOne> it was a baby move <k1l> (just for the log) <k1l> (like i got to know anything you do on irc is for the log) ;p <IdleOne> people have this idea that licences and contracts exist to protect the rights you have. IMHO they enumerate the rights you are giving up. <hggdh> rights each side is giving up. Not necessarily one-sided <IdleOne> right. <genii-around> The comprotract #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-21 <GreenChris> anyone knows a time, when the developer preview for the N4 is released? <Calinou> lolphone #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-22 <FCHMMR> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30577/ <darent> hi #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-23 <erickLee> is it advantageous to create a native calender application for ubuntu? <Bluefoxicy> has anyone seen NixOS? <SuperEngineer> Bluefoxicy: soory - haven'yt even seen NixON ;) <Bluefoxicy> heh <Bluefoxicy> I'm trying to figure out if it would take a lot of work to get dpkg/apt aware enough to mimic Nix <Bluefoxicy> specifically, NOT including any of that behavior <Bluefoxicy> just able to be prodded into it <Bluefoxicy> I'd rather write something like that as an external plug-in and not break Debian for the rest of us; and Nix proper is insane. #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-24 * Bluefoxicy ponders, as a programming exercise, looking into exactly how .deb format works and rewriting dpkg, completely, in Python. <orcastra> omg! ubuntuthemes.org got hacked! <user82> can i report a bug without detailed information somewhere? i am not able to collect detailed data i can just explain the phenomenon <popey> user82: sure, what app? <user82> popey ubiquity <user82> on my raid setup ubuntu 11.04 to 13.04 repeateadly got confused where to install grub. i said "/dev/mapper/raidblabla" and it always ran "grub-install --force '/dev/sda'" <user82> even after it had failed to install to /dev/sda am prompted again where to try instead <popey> i didnt think we supported raid on the live cd <user82> i am talking about the installer....? <popey> yes <popey> raid isn't something we support in ubiquity <popey> its possible to bodge an install onto a raid device but we've never had RAID supported out of the box in ubiquity <user82> yes it is a raid device.. <user82> i do not want to create one <user82> it exists <popey> sure, and it may or may not work, but its not a use case we have programmed for <user82> still i am confused where in the chain it gets the destination of grub wrong..even if raid is not supported it should be able to get the string /dev/mapper/raidblabla to the point with grub-install? <user82> well ok.. <popey> bug 1078703 perhaps? <ubot5> bug 1078703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes installing on raid." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078703 <popey> also bug 44609 <ubot5> bug 44609 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "RAID not implemented (use alternate CD instead)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44609 <popey> also bug 1091107 <ubot5> bug 1091107 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Could not install grub raid5" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1091107 <user82> oh okay..i did not find those. let me check! <user82> yes popey you found it. sorry for taking your time... <popey> no problem at all <user82> well it is still not fixed. do you think there is more than a lost variable behind it somewhere in ubiquity? <popey> i honestly don't know <popey> maybe poke xnox during the day tomorrow and ask, he maintains ubiquity now #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-25 <dward> hello #ubuntu-discuss 2013-02-26 <AlanBell> so, who is going to attend the first remote UDS? <IdleOne> I'll check it out for sure, like I always do remotely <IdleOne> Little sad though. This means i probably won't ever get to meet in person some people I always wanted to shake hands with. <AlanBell> yeah, that is the sad part for me too <AlanBell> bunch of people I will probably never meet, and some I will probably never meet again <AlanBell> I would like it if they did a pay-to-attend conference at some stage <AlanBell> so totally different content <AlanBell> not a "come and work for free" thing <AlanBell> I used to pay thousands to go to conferences <IdleOne> maybe they will revisit this and decide to do in person UDS for LTS releases <IdleOne> that would be 1 every 2 years, little more financially digestible for them? <IdleOne> Just seems to me that it makes sense to get your best people together in one room every now and then <pleia2> AlanBell: too short notice :( <pleia2> I have a day job and all <IdleOne> how did this affect your day job? <pleia2> IdleOne: a week is not enough time to schedule time off <IdleOne> oh, you won't be able to participate as much :/ <JoseeAntonioR> same here with school, I start on Monday <AlanBell> pleia2: yeah, this is really short notice <IdleOne> its almost like they don't want too many people actually involved <AlanBell> bit of an odd format for it as an online event, 8 things in parallel <AlanBell> the reason for doing lots of tracks in parallel in person is that everyone is there, you have to occupy them <AlanBell> for online it could have been done in a much more spread out way <popey> i am not convinced UDS will never be in-person again <AlanBell> popey is rarely negative, but when he is, it is a double negative \o/ #ubuntu-discuss 2014-02-08 <dharc> what about ubuntu gnu/kfreebsd? #ubuntu-discuss 2014-02-10 <MrGrymReaper> Hello. <MrGrymReaper> Is the Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 release coming along well? #ubuntu-discuss 2014-02-14 <cantstanya> how would the dispatch of systemd work <cantstanya> would it affect a certain version an up? <cantstanya> what about the currently released version <cantstanya> or the LTS versions not yet EOL'd <Aleksei__> cantstanya: I highly doubt that switch to systemd happens in either existing or next LTS. Integrating systemd is neither easy nor nondisruptive, which doesn't fit the LTS release purpose. Besides, upstart works reasonably well, so no need to hurry. <cantstanya> So it would most likely be: it releases on a certain version, and only subsequent versions will have it, LTS versions will still have upstart? <cantstanya> s/LTS/prior &/ <Aleksei__> Yes. <cantstanya> so suffice to say it's not a concern for at least 12.04 and 14.04 <cantstanya> okay <Aleksei__> Most probably some version will have systemd as an option alongside upstart, but changing the default is unlikely to happen soon. Certanly not before Debian does. <cantstanya> but LTS wise said option probably won't be on 12.04 or 14.04, right? <Aleksei__> Well, you *can* install systemd from the PPA, and it will mostly work. But to place it in main it needs to meet some quality standards, which is unlikely until Debian systemd maintainers do the work. <Aleksei__> It isn't even in the universe yet, so it's a long way to go... <cantstanya> My inquiry was mostly towards inclusion in main; if it somehow made it there by 14.04 (even as an option), I would have people transition, but I'm not suggesting a PPA. <cantstanya> but I think you answered everything, so thanks. <cantstanya> Aleksei__: ^ #ubuntu-discuss 2014-02-19 <Atomix26> yo <Atomix26> sup <Atomix26> anyone here? <Atomix26> :( #ubuntu-discuss 2015-02-07 <mitt> Hi, have ye tried 15.04 with Unity 8 and Mir? What's yer take on this? <mitt> okay, better ask forums <dcwilliams_VA> good morning all #ubuntu-discuss 2015-02-10 <Kossilar> Hello <littlebunnyfufu> Hello and welcome <Kossilar> Thanks! <Kossilar> Hows it going? #ubuntu-discuss 2015-02-13 <FreeNet[node]> discussing #ubuntu-discuss 2015-02-19 <Guest15179> Any idea about 2nd point release of 14.04 ? <PaulW2U> Guest15179: Probably best to idle in #ubuntu-release. Looks like flavours are starting to mark their ISOs as being ready for release. <PaulW2U> Guest15179: I said "idle" not "ask" :) <PaulW2U> ISOs are only *starting* to be marked ready..... <Guest15179> :) ha ha.. am a little low on patience #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-01 <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> Hi folks <DJones> Something you folks might find interesting http://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/02/01/1357237/running-rm--rf--is-now-bricking-linux-systems?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter <rud0lf> hello <Awesama> hi <grass843> hello <lotuspsychje> howdy cfhowlett <cfhowlett> greetings lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: come to squoo :p <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om <Bashing-om> Hey lotuspsychje :) Strap in tight for a Monday ? #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-02 <lotuspsychje> hi cfhowlett <cfhowlett> yep yep yep <johnny__> hello <johnny__> someoneis french ? <lotuspsychje> !fr | johnny__ <ubot5`> johnny__: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en franÃ§ais, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. <johnny__> i speak english ;) <johnny__> i speak english <BluesKaj> Hiyas all <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: your in japan now? <cfhowlett> hai <lotuspsychje> cool, where? <cfhowlett> Tokyo <lotuspsychje> wow <lotuspsychje> eat some sushi for me :p <cfhowlett> yeah, boy!!! <cfhowlett> sushi ... eh, perhaps not that ... <lotuspsychje> lol <OerHeks> "Ubuntu is now commanding 11.1% market-share among websites 'whose operating system we know'." <<>> http://w3techs.com/blog/entry/web_technologies_of_the_year_2015 <OerHeks> \o/ #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-03 <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> hi cfhowlett <cfhowlett> greetings <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: all ok in tokyo? <cfhowlett> yep. found out today, I am ONE train stop from the only Michelin starred Ramen house ... so lunch tomorrow is ON :) <lotuspsychje> mmmmm <lotuspsychje> i want ramen too :p <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: how long are you staying in japan? <cfhowlett> 6 packs for $1 at Safeway .. <cfhowlett> at least a year <lotuspsychje> wow! <lotuspsychje> lucky you <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: business or travel? <cfhowlett> work, man! <lotuspsychje> kk <JanC> there is no Safeway here :) <lotuspsychje> :p <lotuspsychje> too bad <JanC> but they have ramen in Carrefour & Delhaize + in asian shops <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> thats not the same <cfhowlett> there is NO place on earth, that does not have nissen ramen in the 6 pack! <JanC> they have Nissen ramen in Carrefour <lotuspsychje> lolll <JanC> probably some other chains/shops too <cfhowlett> :) <lotuspsychje> there's nothing that can beat fresh made japanese food <cfhowlett> indeed <lotuspsychje> omg its n00b hell again... <cfhowlett> nah, that is definitely deliberate trolling. I ignored about 300 lines ago <JanC> lotuspsychje: not sure if they have fresh ramen, but they have fresh sushi in the Hyper Carrefour here in Bruges :) <Ben64> i hate everyone right now <lotuspsychje> Ben64: what a mess in #ubuntu;.. <lotuspsychje> JanC: your from bruges? <cfhowlett> meditation Ben64 , meditation ... <JanC> yep <lotuspsychje> JanC: me2 :p <Ben64> trying to just eat pudding and watch the flash <Ben64> people getting me all angry <JanC> hehe <lotuspsychje> time for brushing the channel <lotuspsychje_> cfhowlett: set squoo to favorite mate :p <cfhowlett> o - m - g ... <lotuspsychje> lol <BluesKaj> Howdy folks #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-04 <lotuspsychje> ohayo gozaimashita cfhowlett-san <lotuspsychje> !vivid <ubot5`> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid <lotuspsychje> nice <OerHeks> :-) <lordievader> Good morning. <circle_> Anybody up <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-05 <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> Hey folks <daftykins> hallo all \o <freeadnam> hello <daftykins> hi <freeadnam> I was just seeing if this really works. kinda new to irc <daftykins> ah, plenty of other channels are useful for such testing then <freeadnam> sorry, my bad. <DosTuMai> Have you tried #ubuntu for any tech? <DosTuMai> It's always great to have open just to watch these guys in awe. <daftykins> as long as you can turn a blind eye to me slating the ones that enjoy reinventing the wheel <DosTuMai> I'm just a network & cryptology nerd. >_> <DosTuMai> xD <daftykins> sudormrf -> well known channel idiot <daftykins> if i could script i would have an auto reply of "what've you broken this time?" on his join <OerHeks> wait .. i thought i was the channel id... never mind <daftykins> :D <daftykins> aww sorry OerHeks i've stolen your dream title <OerHeks> :-( <OerHeks> please please please <OerHeks> let me ruin one server tonight <OerHeks> /j #mint-server <daftykins> XD <daftykins> oh did you guys read about that person who, for fun ran "rm -rf /" on their machine before planning to do a clean install... only to find that due to a bug in their system's EFI, their EFI boot variables were set as read-write... so the whole system was bricked <daftykins> it wouldn't even POST after that <daftykins> seriously nasty :S <OerHeks> hang the disk in an other machine, non-uefi, and zero it ? <daftykins> nah the rm actually wiped EFI items under /proc - which meant the motherboard was useless after <OerHeks> oh, don't know about that <daftykins> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/02/delete_efivars_linux/ <daftykins> here we are <OerHeks> but uefi is nasty indeed, i hesitate buying a fresh machine <daftykins> lots of buggy ones out there, indeedy <daftykins> actually i updated the BIOS on a clients' Dell desktop the other day ahead of putting some new RAM in... afterwards i could no longer install Windows 7 in EFI mode, only legacy - ho-hum <daftykins> OerHeks: glad you got there before me, i was going to say "bless you!" to that user ;) <OerHeks> :-D <OerHeks> i know some dirty turkish .. pardon me <daftykins> going here for lunch tomorrow: http://www.rocsalt.gg/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Seagull.jpg <daftykins> hoping that guy doesn't turn up <daftykins> :D <OerHeks> smoked seagull is nice <OerHeks> .. with lots of sage and garlic <Bashing-om> daftykins: WB ,, ya been gone so long ! Did I miss the party ? Ballons, whistles and lots of cookies ? <daftykins> hello there :) <daftykins> just a good long break really! are you well? <OerHeks> ... wait, cookies? <Bashing-om> daftykins: Minor interruption in the flow .. Semi-truck took out the lines and power poles, was a bit getting service restored . <daftykins> ouch! were you without power for long? <daftykins> and internet too presumably? <Bashing-om> daftykins: Power was on a different grid . The interruption was at the point of presence of our cable provider . Took out the fiber optics also . Ouch ! <daftykins> oh no! <daftykins> sounds like you might have had a good holiday (albeit forced) from here as well though ;) #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-06 <Bashing-om> daftykins: Amazing creatures of habit that we are . We managed to survive - @ 12 hours they had the distributuion system patched . The fix still pending . <daftykins> :D <daftykins> that's rapid <daftykins> i was always a bit puzzled by US infrastructure being overhead <Bashing-om> From the looks of it I had expected several days to get service restored . Was sure relieved - and pleasanly surprised - when the modem lit up ! <daftykins> i'll bet! <daftykins> when i lived in England, keeping the strange hours i did, i used to be muchly dismayed when the service would often go down at 1am and i'd have a forced early bedtime :) <Bashing-om> When you can do nothing else, sleep ! <daftykins> :D <OerHeks> some issues i don't understand, is ti me? <OerHeks> *it <daftykins> users are weird <OerHeks> autologin, no pass on screensaver, and one is almost free. <daftykins> :D <daftykins> free to break it all! <lordievader> Good morning <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett, seen your artpage, nice! <cfhowlett> :) thanks. we actually have more submissions than the main ubuntu art showcase contest <lotuspsychje> lol <BluesKaj> Hiyas all #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-07 <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> Hiyas all #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-08 <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ohayo gozaimashita <cfhowlett> :) konichiwa! <lotuspsychje> :p <lotuspsychje> watashi wa lotuspsychje desu <lotuspsychje> the rest i dont know :p <BluesKaj> Hey folks <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^ <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje <nicomachus> no sketchup for linux? :( <OerHeks> nicomachus, select windows 7 in wine conf <OerHeks> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-google-sketchup-ubuntu1404/ <OerHeks> and moretricks ..why sketchup? <nicomachus> OerHeks: I tried it through Wine, but I guess my prefix is 32-bit and sketchup is 64. can't find a 32bit sketchup download, or figure out how to create a 64bit wine prefix. haha <nicomachus> but I need sketchup to make some mockups of some event spaces for work, so we can plan some things out. <daftykins> \o #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-09 <Bashing-om> Smoke break; smokers draw one . just 'cause it is so slow and I can . <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nihao <cfhowlett> hey^3 <goddard> 14.04 is so stable compared to 15.10 <lotuspsychje> goddard: thats because its LTS <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> Hi folks #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-10 <daftykins> it's way too quiet <Bashing-om> will the quiet record be broken ? That is the question . <daftykins> :) <Bashing-om> dont think " < headbanger> ciao " counts . Maybe a record here shortly ? <daftykins> most quiet night ever :D <Bashing-om> 9 more minutes . <OerHeks> silence before the storm? <Bashing-om> well .. we have beem flooded before . Sure gets the adreniline flowing when that happens . <OerHeks> oh, i havent watched a movie on this install, :-D <OerHeks> had to find sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg for 15.10 * OerHeks feels busted <Bashing-om> depending on what I am installing .. the install os of the greater interest . <Bashing-om> quiet 45 minutes ! a Record ?? <OerHeks> just the install, then the extra programs, and some tweak things like %D in the chatlog filename, that makes the date folders <Bashing-om> right thing at the right place in the given time .. keeps the blues at bay . <daftykins> OerHeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1bgsvsWms <OerHeks> hahaha <daftykins> nn all :) <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> afternoon cfhowlett <lotuspsychje> hows the wallpaper contest going? <cfhowlett> 75 entries. 9 more hours until we get to voting <lotuspsychje> oh cool <lotuspsychje> whats the url again cfhowlett <cfhowlett> https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudiocreations/pool/ <lotuspsychje> tnx <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: can non-members vote also? <cfhowlett> yep. public voting <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lets say i wanna vote for this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/24884064526/in/photostream/ <lotuspsychje> wich button to vote? <Ben64> https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/24458446075/in/pool-ubuntustudiocreations/ <Ben64> would be my choice <cfhowlett> as of tomorrow, I will activate a voting menu at http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/civs_create.html <lotuspsychje> AH COOL cfhowlett <cfhowlett> Ben64, I would have agreed with you, but this contest brought some outstanding possibilities! <Ben64> i'm a sucker for mostly black backgrounds <lotuspsychje> i love dark too and minimal <Ben64> i still need to make a background for my computer <lotuspsychje> i think a linux user is the most creative of all <Ben64> i think you have it backwards <lotuspsychje> those linux desktop screenshots are amazing always <Ben64> i think maybe creative people are drawn to linux <lotuspsychje> looll true <Ben64> : / <Ben64> can't find my old backgrounds <lotuspsychje> Ben64, cfhowlett <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/ <lotuspsychje> hows that for creativity <cfhowlett> nice! there was/is an ubuntu art group in DA as well <cfhowlett> dark? hmmm ... https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1537/24139986914_a462731e53_b.jpg <lotuspsychje> i keep forgeting those desktop linux sites <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nice1 <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did you get voted for @ yet in studio? <cfhowlett> yeah, I requested input from the other *buntu teams. Ubuntu Kylin delivered <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, no voting until tomorrow ... about 8 hours; <Ben64> i'm sad, must have lost my old backgrounds in drive crash <BluesKaj> HI folks <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: no i mean for the studio channel @ <lotuspsychje> Ben64: can photorec help recover, or drive dead? <Ben64> back in like... 2002ish I rendered a n64 logo in POV-Ray <cfhowlett> ??? explain lotuspsychje ? <Ben64> all kinds of cool effects, took hours to render <Ben64> lotuspsychje: one drive totally dead, the other... i'm not done with it yet <Ben64> some firmware problem that seagate won't admit to <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you remembered the irc mailing list voting for OPS right? your name was still on it for the ubuntu studio channel <lotuspsychje> Ben64: bah, and seagate should be stable as rock <Ben64> pfft no <cfhowlett> ah! right. well, I never heard another word about so ... sniff sniff <Ben64> http://hackaday.com/2012/07/30/recovering-from-a-seagate-hdd-firmware-bug/ <Ben64> got some important pics on that drive, hope i can get em back <lotuspsychje> kk <lotuspsychje> this one also nice for my ubuntu phone: http://www.mobileswall.com <Ben64> omg.... why haven't i put toast into my laser cutter yet <Ben64> i can draw jesus on it... <lotuspsychje> lol #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-11 <lotuspsychje> good morning cfhowlett <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-04-lts-flavours-prepare-for-their-first-xenial-xerus-beta-release-500248.shtml <BluesKaj> Hiyas all <OerHeks> :-) <daftykins> OerHeks: mmm continued did he? :) i ignored after my last message to be on the safe side :D <OerHeks> :-) <daftykins> hmm i've seen that nick greentooth before #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-12 <daftykins> puzzling one with that user - feel free to jump in, anyone ;) <daftykins> nn all \o <cfhowlett> too much stuff I have never seen before <BluesKaj> Hiyas all <lotuspsychje> !18.04 <rww> We don't tend to add them until release codename is announced. #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-13 <lotuspsychje> good morning cfhowlett <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-properly-integrate-the-unity-launcher-with-nautilus-500362.shtml <BluesKaj> Hi all <lordievader> Good afternoon. #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-14 <BluesKaj> Hey all <OerHeks> :-) <OerHeks> i am about to suggest to remove the password from his account, silly me :-D <OerHeks> happy valentineday ! <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks <Yikes> Hey, it's haplorhine. I think what's been happening is cyberstalking of some form. Somebody is tracking me for blackmailing purposes. I thought only my father's network was compromised until I was admitted and diagnosed "psychotic illness". Then bizarre things started happening in my actual life, and the next time I started my hotspot after I asking a moderator about accessing some the information sent to Canonical's servers possibly pertaining to so <Yikes> My Verizon hotspot can only connect to a "Connect" page on the verizonwireless site, and it never gives a certificate when any user views it for the first time. <Yikes> And it seems somebody messed with that laptop's rhythmbox in an uncanny way, but I don't know whether it was via the hotspot or though the desktop connected to my father's network. <Yikes> Both hotspots and their respective devices have exhibited uncanny behavior. <Yikes> I tried to call AT&T about intrusion on my father's network one year ago, but they said I needed the account holder PIN, and my father didn't seem to know where to find it. <Yikes> FreedomPop customer support was no help. <Yikes> Haven't called Verizon yet. <tsimonq2> Yikes: if it's stalking, report to the police <Yikes> IC3 is the police, "Federal Bureau of Investigation Internet Crime Complaint Center", but the report form guideline on the home page says I need to know who it is. <Yikes> ic3.gov <Yikes> Funny I never heard of IC3 in all those months of computer security research. Perhaps the Ubuntu guides should mention it somewhere. <tsimonq2> Yikes: I really don't know if this is the place to report this <Yikes> What if it IS the police??? <Yikes> :P <Yikes> Why would they make their presence known to me? It makes no sense. It's madness. <Yikes> They must think they've got some pretty good blackmail. <Yikes> They don't, <Yikes> and from what I can tell they've already used it anyway. <Yikes> My biggest concern is that they may be blackmailing my father as well, and I don't want to look like the perpetrator. <Yikes> *stalking my father <Yikes> What if I look like a co-conspirator because I didn't call the police soon enough? I warned my father vaguely! I called the ISP several times! <Yikes> This is going to look really bad... <Yikes> I'm the victim. I stabbed my arm because of it. <Yikes> Imagine all the financial information of my father's they probably have by now. :'( I'll have to warn him - AGAIN - before I report it, so he can take precautions. <Yikes> I accidentally left the SSH port open on his computer, confusing it with SSL, and the paper with the admin password has since disappeared. :'( <Yikes> I KNOW it was in a folder, probably the purple one, and yet somehow it isn't. <Yikes> Any advice is appreciated. Just PM haplorrhine. <tsimonq2> OH I guess I do have op if I'm a cloaked Ubuntu member XD #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-15 <OerHeks> yes <OerHeks> but there are rules, i am sure. <OerHeks> I am op only in #ubuntu-nl, not here actually. <tsimonq2> OerHeks: uhh yeah you are XD <hggdh> any Ubuntu member can take action if needed in this channel. We prefer to reason and re-route if possible <tsimonq2> hggdh: oic makes sense <BluesKaj> howdy folks <OerHeks> yay, ffmpeg 3.0 released <OerHeks> https://ffmpeg.org/download.html #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-16 <BluesKaj> hi folks <OerHeks> heya BluesKaj <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks #ubuntu-discuss 2016-02-17 <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> split day :p <cfhowlett> thought that was yesterday ... <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: we had a global notice before this morning <BluesKaj> Hi folks <cfhowlett> the heck is that? <BluesKaj> still splitsville ? <cfhowlett> almost a full page of it now <lotuspsychje> yep split hell today pff <BluesKaj> my server conection dropped earlier <cfhowlett> well, pretty sure ask ubuntu has a question or two worth responding to. <BluesKaj> seems serious, haven't seen this many splits in a while <cfhowlett> I'm guessing that the newest uber-troll has found another way to mess with us <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, which uber-troll? <lotuspsychje> that k1l troll? <cfhowlett> yep <cfhowlett> he's only highly annoyed with me <lotuspsychje> think he's on a botnet <cfhowlett> yeah, he's got many toys <BluesKaj> didn't realize he was regarded as a troll <cfhowlett> imho ... <lotuspsychje> well spammer really <BluesKaj> never saw any evidence <cfhowlett> he was on the spyware rant for a minute then moved on to more annoying tactics <Ben64> who? <cfhowlett> never left his name ... <lotuspsychje> Ben64: he keeps renaming <lotuspsychje> Ben64: but he's always spamming with k1l is a... <BluesKaj> so he's using a proxy or vpn <Ben64> Feb 15 2016 03:40:49 <Guiprobs> .,:) The moderator Jordan_U is [super nice person] <Ben64> like that? <lotuspsychje> Ben64: was a longer insult text <cfhowlett> lol. yep <Ben64> i took a snippet <tsimonq2> (maybe this hass a connection with yesterday's spammer in #ubuntu-offtopic) <tsimonq2> *has <tsimonq2> Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯ <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: its always the same text with k1l <Ben64> yeah, looks very similar to the one i posted above <Ben64> Feb 17 2016 02:46:51 <simon3> this wont stop <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: oic then nvm <cfhowlett> sounds like him. <Ben64> i never
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