#ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-03 <Captain_Crow> will battlefield4 be playable on ubuntu? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-08 <Ashtray777> Anyone think ubuntu has no direction? <jussi> Ashtray777: I think their direction is pretty clear currently... #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-15 <WHAT_UP1> why is Xubuntu 12.04 LTS only supported for 3 years? <Calinou> less manpower <Calinou> be happy, short term versions will be supported for 9 months as of 13.04 <Calinou> this doesn't make them bad, you still have 3 months to upgrade <Calinou> WHAT_UP1: you can still install ubuntu 12.04 then install xfce <Calinou> for 5 years <WHAT_UP1> 3 months to upgrade :P <WHAT_UP1> i was running 10.04 until a couple weeks ago <Calinou> so old <leptone> can anyone recommended one of these OCR tools: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-16 <DigiDuncan> Hello? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-20 <SonikkuAmerica> So with the systray whitelist going in 13.04, I can foresee a VERY limited systray experience. What is the whole point of this? <Calinou> solution: use xubuntu <Calinou> and enjoy your troll life <Calinou> please troll about the AMD drivers now <SonikkuAmerica> I take it you people get that question a lot... lol <SonikkuAmerica> Aaaand... I can't troll about the AMD drivers. I have an Intel 865. <SonikkuAmerica> *965 <SonikkuAmerica> Thanks for your input... :P <Calinou> see, you have a low end intel IGP and you troll <Calinou> you need a nvidia card to troll <Calinou> it's a troll license #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-23 <chaos7theory> I'm kind of looking forward to next year when 14.04 LTS comes up, since I get oddly nostalgic/reminscient of 10.04. I have a feeling it'll end up being similar #ubuntu-discuss 2013-04-26 <hachre> So guys!!! <hachre> I've been thinking.... <hachre> Why not use fcron as the default cron instead of vixie? I'm missing a feature to get notified of failed cronjobs in vixie-cron... #ubuntu-discuss 2014-04-01 <Junlearningdjang> Hi #ubuntu-discuss 2014-04-17 <ahhmarr> hey any news when trusty will be up on the website <ahhmarr> its 17 already <zencoder> So... today is April 17th, right? <zencoder> ;) <zencoder> At least in most of the world at this point... #ubuntu-discuss 2014-04-22 <Richard-Stallman> hello #ubuntu-discuss 2014-04-23 <lazarus_> how do i boot an iso from a 2nd internal HDD using grub 2 #ubuntu-discuss 2014-04-27 <maitian> hello #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-04 <tjk11> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER tjk11 ufeaglhdhtzj #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-05 <froyo> Hello #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-07 <CryMore> Hallo :D #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-12 <lotuspsychje> hello <daftykins> just to warn you, today's asshat is [Saint] <lotuspsychje> im trying to gather supporters into here for a nice chichat <daftykins> ah ok ^_^ <lotuspsychje> this is a calm channel, not so crowdy as offtopic <daftykins> i did often think it'd be handy to have a place volunteers could chat <daftykins> though apparently it was done and failed once before <lotuspsychje> yes thats the idea, because we have the nicest crew <OerHeks> else #ubuntu-beginners :-D <lotuspsychje> loool <OerHeks> invite only ... mehh <lotuspsychje> oldskool beginners <daftykins> i should be asleep but i got into baseball last year so i'm watching a game - despite it being 4am here <lotuspsychje> daftykins: set this channel to idle ok, ill invite some more during the day <daftykins> ok :> <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: a new openstack tweet: https://twitter.com/ubuntu <lotuspsychje> and a lot of ubuntu phone news open to public to buy :p <daftykins> heh ubunt.eu is really confusing <lotuspsychje> daftykins: howso? <daftykins> it's like you've still got the final 'u' of ubuntu but with the e there it goes funny <daftykins> eh i'm just being silly i think :> <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> not sure why they did that <lotuspsychje> did you guys see this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal <OerHeks> nice, affordable <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: looks promising right :p <daftykins> hmm never heard of Entroware <lotuspsychje> me neither <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is getting big in the world :p <daftykins> ah ok they just sell things like Clevo machines <daftykins> i would love a Dell XPS 13 FHD if i were in the market for a new machine :D 15 hour battery (under Windows at least) <lotuspsychje> ah clevo thats those barebone laptops right <daftykins> yeah, so whoever that co. are are just grabbing them, putting specs together and throwing an OS on <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you see that dell on the twitter page <daftykins> no sir <lotuspsychje> daftykins: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=9H8bb0&utm_campaign=shortner <daftykins> only trouble is i'm always under the impression the Linuxes suffer for battery life - which is always my #1 attribute for laptops <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well im gonna open an ubuntu computer store soon in my country, with only samsung ssd pro insides and ubuntu LTS <lotuspsychje> daftykins: still trying to find a nice barebone company <zerowaitstate> daftykins: I am on a linux laptop right now; of course it's hard for me to decide how power hungry it is given that it has a 17" screen, 16 GB of RAM, and a 6 core processor <daftykins> ouch that sounds like a desktop replacement chunker :) <daftykins> lotuspsychje: ah neat! <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: what brand is this? <zerowaitstate> system76 <lotuspsychje> daftykins: something like system76 yeah <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: oh nice, but those are really expensive right <zerowaitstate> cheaper than the dell you linked <lotuspsychje> true <lotuspsychje> and the hardware rox on system76 :p <zerowaitstate> depends on which model, from what i've read <zerowaitstate> they don't actually make the PC; it's a third-party off brand <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: do you know wich brand? <zerowaitstate> taiwanese something something <zerowaitstate> that send it to you in a box that says something like "please enjoy computer with complement" <lotuspsychje> i found BTO laptops was promising for barebones <lotuspsychje> but OerHeks suggested me to contact HP as they are stable to linux, maybe they can deliver barebones too <zerowaitstate> HP EliteBooks are very good build quality <zerowaitstate> I had one for work and it rocked <lotuspsychje> i dont want a hd inside and neither an Os <lotuspsychje> so i can put samsung ssd pro inside and format with ubuntu <lotuspsychje> so it will be lowcost for the end-user with ubuntu as free Os <lotuspsychje> and rocketfast as a tablet :p <zerowaitstate> lotuspsychje: you want an msata <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: yeah samsung pro 850 msata would rocknroll :p <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUdtcD5gYw <lotuspsychje> not much ubuntu samsung pro 850 video's yet <badbodh> part <lordievader> o/ <lotuspsychje> lordievader: nice and calm here :p <OerHeks> Not anymore <lotuspsychje> lol <BluesKaj> howdy <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate <OerHeks> hey BluesKaj <BluesKaj> \hi lotuspsychje, OerHeks <BluesKaj> hope you don't mind a Kubuntu guy in here :) <lotuspsychje> we like all kinds of flavors :p <OerHeks> Nothing wrong with guys <OerHeks> oh, Kubuntu :-P <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: welcome :p <lordievader> OerHeks: :P <cfhowlett> yowza!! <OerHeks> I certainly install plasma5 when 15.04 is out. <lotuspsychje> this will be our private ubuntu chitchat while we do support :p <BluesKaj> OerHeks, plasma 5 is default on Kubuntu 15.04 <lotuspsychje> everyone thrilled with 15.04 so it seems <BluesKaj> I'm not real thrilled, some of my favourite features are missing so far <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: wich ones? <BluesKaj> no more separate widgets/backgrounds for Virtual Desktops is my main complaint <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: welcome :p <BluesKaj> forced into trying to configure activities, which is something I didn''t need <BluesKaj> hi EriC^^ <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thanks <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well didnt test vivid myself, im sticking to trusty for a while :p <BluesKaj> I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 for testing as requested, but ai still prefer 14.10 and plasma 4 .. it's actually my main OS atm <lotuspsychje> cool <cfhowlett> LTS only = sanity saving measure IMHO <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you see that MATE laptop on omgubuntu? <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lol <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, no I didn't <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal <lotuspsychje> check it out :p <cfhowlett> wait, so now specific distros are getting OEM hardware deals? Then I must disagree with DELL. The Sputnik m3800 is currently offered as a developer laptop. Should also be offered with ubuntustudio as a Multimedia Creation Laptop. <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is spreading wings worldwide :p <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: the other day a user shouted in #ubuntu-touch about ubuntu going deal with microsoft lol <lotuspsychje> with all the cloud deals and snappy core n such <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, he missed the 04/01 memo <lotuspsychje> :p <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, got url to the memo ? <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, nah, we gotta wait until next April Fool's Day. <OerHeks> :-D <BluesKaj> heh <BluesKaj> shoulda known <BluesKaj> was running W7 as guest on qemu-kvm , but the LAN configuration required escapes me despite the tutorials I tried , but then i realized I don't need windows anymore since linux has better networking anyway , and it works well on our LAN with the other windows machines ...guess I'm just an old windows guy who can't let go <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I have windows 7 + office 2010 in a vbox, but I boot it up maybe 30 minutes per month. <BluesKaj> yeah cfhowlett , not much point to it , is there <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, certainly no pressing need. <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, I suppose you need it occasionally for work ? <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, yeah. oxford english language dictionary is SUPPOSED to work on linux but doesn't so ... windows needed. <BluesKaj> right' <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I was just looking at the ubuntu-mate laptops specs, not real impressive for the money <BluesKaj> but I suppose a working linux configuration is worth something extra, less work to do on the users part <cfhowlett> most users aren't like us. most uses aren't even like most IRC folks. they want it to "just work" otherwise they are quick to run back to the more familiar win/OSX <OerHeks> Maybe IRC folks are the worst, demanding. <OerHeks> Anyway, it is live Q&A. <cfhowlett> case in point ... see the latest <BluesKaj> I think most irc users have a 'hobby" or extra cirricular pursuit/activity and use irc as a forum to exchange information, altho there are a lot of chats that have no real subject ... just plain chit chat <BluesKaj> I discovered irc as an audio hobbyist looking for info and help <BluesKaj> BBL <daftykins> ah my good ol' desktop Das Keyboard, today enjoys dropping the letter O :D <daftykins> i vote ovsjanij for troll <BluesKaj> daftykins, who? <daftykins> BluesKaj: it's the nick of a time waster in #ubuntu <BluesKaj> daftykins, yes I see, one of those one word info types, who expects help with little or no info forthcoiming about his issue. <daftykins> i think it's someone that knows the oft-enforced channel policy and is trolling it :) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-13 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> morning guys <lotuspsychje> new kernel is out: <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/linux-kernel-4-0-new-features <BluesKaj> Hiyas all <OerHeks> Hi BluesKaj <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks <BluesKaj> what's up today ? <OerHeks> monday morning issues, nothing special. <OerHeks> In our dutch channel wants someone to mount a hdd in a VM to scan into a window7 vm for lost files :-D <OerHeks> really .. i need more coffee now <BluesKaj> that's a good idea * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for more coffee * OerHeks shuffles to the kitchen too <lordievader> That is so not going to work... <lordievader> He lost his files. He just needs to accept that. <BluesKaj> found a dvd I <BluesKaj> been looking for <BluesKaj> for ages .. 2002 vintage , Deep Purple, The making of Machine Head <BluesKaj> altho the actual footage is from 1972 era <BluesKaj> oops wrong chat :) <daftykins> hehe <OerHeks> my internet is so fast, just heard ABBA split up <BluesKaj> OerHeks, ;-) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-14 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lotuspsychje> tnx :p <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-Touch-for-OnePlus-One-Port-Gets-WiFi-Support-478287.shtml <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: welcome <gr33n7007h> didn't even notice you pm'd me not got channel listing up not set up weechat as of yet :) <gr33n7007h> noticed it by luck * gr33n7007h needs to fully set up is irc client <gr33n7007h> lotuspsychje: thanks for the invite <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: no sweat mate, tought your query was set to off :p <lotuspsychje> the idea is, we see alot of active supporters in #ubuntu helping others, but never chat to each other <lotuspsychje> this might have positive changes <gr33n7007h> yeah, sounds like a great idea <lotuspsychje> tnx and great to have you here <gr33n7007h> cheers <gr33n7007h> Where ever did ActionParsnip go to? <lotuspsychje> i see him rarely <lotuspsychje> some guys did a lot of support in the past and some dissapeared <lotuspsychje> like dr_willis <lotuspsychje> never saw him either <gr33n7007h> ah, yeah dr_willis remeber him to <lotuspsychje> bbl <lordievader> good morning. <lotuspsychje> good afternoon <lordievader> o/ <lotuspsychje> lordievader: hello mate <lordievader> How are you doing? <lotuspsychje> great and you? <lotuspsychje> nice sunshine today <lordievader> Got a coffee next to me, guess I'm doing allright. <lotuspsychje> yummy <lordievader> :) <MonkeyDust> coffe gives meaning to my life <lordievader> http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/32gzld/you_left_without_fixing_it/ <lotuspsychje> coffee with an ubuntu cookie :p * lordievader slides a mug of "meaning of life" to MonkeyDust <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: morning mate <BluesKaj> HI all <BluesKaj> 'Morning lotuspsychje, what's happening today ? <lordievader> o/ <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: new article on softpedia, they fixxed wifi on oneplusone phone (ubuntu touch) <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-Touch-for-OnePlus-One-Port-Gets-WiFi-Support-478287.shtml <BluesKaj> I must be getting old ...don't have desire for a "smartphone" <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well i have a nexus7 with touch on, very happy with it <lotuspsychje> small tablet can be usefull sometimes <lotuspsychje> quick checking your emails while you watch tv <BluesKaj> heh, my pc monitor is my tv <lotuspsychje> loool <lotuspsychje> you got a myth tv ubuntu? <BluesKaj> it's an actual tv, not a pc monitor, no mythtv I have a sat service <lotuspsychje> ah cool <BluesKaj> in the boonies , otherwise I probly would have mythtv <lotuspsychje> i like the way ubuntu spreads on hardware these days <BluesKaj> mythtv is good for large cities where there are lots of free ota siganals <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your sat is connected to internet also? * lordievader still has a dumb phone <lotuspsychje> lordievader: me also a cheap 50 euro nokia :p <lotuspsychje> but it can make calls! <lordievader> Don't think mine was ever worth 50 euros XD <lotuspsychje> lool <BluesKaj> my sat is connected , but it's only used for the program guide updates <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you doublecheck if it cant be exploited or remote takeover <lotuspsychje> mostly those sats are setup with weak l:p on telnet <lordievader> Exploited in Canda? <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, no I haven't , but Bell Canada is quite proprietary and theur pvrs are tightly locked <BluesKaj> their pvrs <lotuspsychje> what brand of sat is this? <lotuspsychje> in the netherlands they use many dreambox and those have weak login:pass <lordievader> http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/32igvt/a_special_congrats_to_my_mother/ <lotuspsychje> lordievader: your reading weird things on the net :p <lotuspsychje> i installed ubuntu on my fathers pc, he's also 78 year and he never been able to crash it <lotuspsychje> with windows on, i had to come back every month to fix lol <lordievader> ? <OerHeks> Oh, now you see him with crhistmass only? <lordievader> It's just tfts on reddit. <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I can't find out who actually makes the pvr , althjo it's the same maker as Dish network in the US . Scientific Atlanta made the old models , but the newer HD pvrs are amystery to me . <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i would do an nmap on yourself to check if the sat telnet is open <BluesKaj> it's seen by the router <BluesKaj> I'll nmap as soon the system is finished upgrading ...I need to install nmap <lotuspsychje> okay :p <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: in the past it was easy to telnet into dreambox with default telnet pass, and even watch the sattelite over-web <BluesKaj> not here <lotuspsychje> okay :p <lordievader> How about not forwarding port, what is it, 21? <BluesKaj> at least so I've been told , never tried to telnet into the pvr so I can't be absolutely sure, lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje> i would surely doublecheck <BluesKaj> yes I will ,as soon as i can <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: want me to nmap you, dont tell to the cops ok :p <lotuspsychje> oh your on vpn nevermind <BluesKaj> you can try, but i'm on a vpn <lotuspsychje> :p <lordievader> Port scanning ain't illegal. <BluesKaj> port 21 for telnet? <lotuspsychje> lordievader: to be a burgler and look inside someones house isnt illegal neither :p <lotuspsychje> port 22 normaly <lotuspsychje> and port 80 might also we open on the sat <lordievader> 22 is ssh... <lordievader> Telnet != ssh. <lordievader> Ah, 23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet <lotuspsychje> yeah 23 <lotuspsychje> 21 is ftp <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, got a command I could use ? <BluesKaj> for nmap <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nmap -PN -sV yourip <lordievader> nmap -p 23 -Pn ip <lotuspsychje> sV is handy for services active <lordievader> You're only interested in the state of port 23. Which shouldn't be forwarded... <BluesKaj> All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.X.XX are closed <lotuspsychje> nice and secure ubuntu :p <lotuspsychje> or good router <lordievader> On 192.168? Try your public ip. <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah public ip might show usefull stuff <lotuspsychje> check whatsmyip <lordievader> dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com <BluesKaj> I know what my IP is <BluesKaj> 23/tcp closed telnet on the pvr <BluesKaj> I have my ISPs dns server IPs setup in the router as well <lotuspsychje> ok <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Besides, Ubuntu's firewall config is very lacking by default. Accept all... <lotuspsychje> lordievader: true, but what will someone do with the open ports <BluesKaj> this the IP looup site that I use , it's quite accurate. mostly http://www.ip-tracker.org/ <BluesKaj> lookup <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It means that access to ports is completely unregulated. <lotuspsychje> sure <lordievader> That I have smb running doesn't mean that I want the full world to access it. <lotuspsychje> true <lordievader> What Ubuntu should have done by default is use the drop policy on the input table. And allow related and established connections in the input table. <lotuspsychje> lordievader: maybe a sugestion for the ubuntu brainstorm <lordievader> Meh, they probably have reasons for the way they do things. <lotuspsychje> probably <MonkeyDust> twitter: I just sneezed... FB status: running noses <MonkeyDust> nose* <MonkeyDust> thought you wanted to know <lotuspsychje> lol <BluesKaj> well, my pvr seems locked down pretty tightly <daftykins> i seem to identify a hell of a lot of dead hard disks over in #ubuntu 0o <daftykins> i'll start getting a reputation before too long... <lotuspsychje> daftykins: :p <OerHeks> You mean booting in blackscreen or grub after update? <lordievader> The man, or woman, who kills harddisks through IRC! <daftykins> OerHeks: who was that at? <OerHeks> for you, i have a client in #ubuntu-nl, struggeling with this issue over and over again <daftykins> oh this was genuine disk failure - check out last nights http://paste.ubuntu.com/10819664/ <daftykins> but certainly plenty of symptoms can result from a disk in this kind of condition <lordievader> daftykins: 0 reallocated sectors... <daftykins> keep reading, lordievader <daftykins> :> <lordievader> Jup, never mind. <daftykins> the key lines are 52, 66 and 67 <daftykins> plus all the errors recorded thereafter <lotuspsychje> hitachi's arent the best hd's <daftykins> i thought that, though a friend found an article the other day that claims they have the lowest fault tolerance of desktop consumer HDDs 9i <daftykins> * 0o <lordievader> High failure rates on Hitachi's. <lotuspsychje> ill swear by seagates <lotuspsychje> and samsung ssd's :p <daftykins> seagates have too low warranty a lot of the time <daftykins> i always buy WD <lotuspsychje> i had few wd's fail on me also <daftykins> ooh that reminds me <daftykins> yeah i think they all die plenty :> <lotuspsychje> i never had a seagate fail <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/00bzkubbvat9hgx/IMG_20150413_190602.jpg?dl=0 <daftykins> :D * lordievader doesn't like Seagates either. <lordievader> WD :D <daftykins> finished off an 8 x 2TB RAID6 -> 8 x 4TB RAID6 move last night <daftykins> so. many. screws. <daftykins> spent a good time removing the 5 years of dust from the system too :D <lotuspsychje> lol@pic <daftykins> 48TB ^_^ <daftykins> all the 2TB disks are out of warranty and needed ditching y'see <daftykins> /dev/sdb1 22T 9.0T 13T 41% /media/array2 <daftykins> huzzah <lordievader> No lvm raid? <daftykins> it's on a 3ware HBA <daftykins> even if i did know how to use any LVM magic it'd have no use for it there <lordievader> LVM raid is quite flexible as you can specify what kind of raid you want per logical volume. But I suppose a hardware raid is faster. <daftykins> i have thought about playing with some other setups like ZFS, but between using the 3ware cards simple management to fix issues and the idea of staring at logs for hours on end - i chose the former :D <daftykins> i spot when the disks fail early as well, as it does a nice scheduled weekly verification across the arrays <lotuspsychje> i just watched blackhat..nice movie :p <BluesKaj> yeah, i tried a LVM partition management type install from scratch so I could run qemu-kvm with plenty of space for guest OS , but it mucked up my partitions after I removeed qemu-kvm and I needed rescue support to fix my partitions <daftykins> 2015 film? <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yes <daftykins> hmm sounds very topical according to IMDB :D <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well i liked it, and finally a hacking movie with some real linux commands to see <daftykins> woohoo \o/ <daftykins> i wonder if the upcoming third Tron film will use some factual ones too <daftykins> they at least used 'whoami' in Tron: Legacy ;) <lotuspsychje> :p <daftykins> seem to remember nmap cropping up somewhere too - maybe that was the Matrix <lotuspsychje> knock knock <lotuspsychje> wake up neo..... <EriC^^> neo's drunk come back later <lotuspsychje> loool <EriC^^> sudo poweroff <lotuspsychje> he saw too many wite wabbits <daftykins> :D <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/beta-plasma-5-3-features <lotuspsychje> this is a weird support day oO <lotuspsychje> took too many of those neo pills i think <daftykins> i find my faith in the common man drops constantly, being in #ubuntu <lordievader> Hehe... Keep your chin up. <lotuspsychje> we poor volunteers :p <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: welcome :p <ki7mt> Hola <lotuspsychje> http://ubuntuonair.com/ <lotuspsychje> seen on https://twitter.com/ubuntu <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you skared him :p <OerHeks> Ido, do i? <OerHeks> Maybe that is why my chihuahua's craighoward@example.net. <lotuspsychje> lol <daftykins> do we figure that these other distros are too silly to modify their IRC client packages to not join #ubuntu as default 0o <lotuspsychje> that would be a great start <daftykins> to be honest even Ubuntu should disable it ;) <lotuspsychje> that would surely safe alot of work <OerHeks> i think #ubuntu should support all forks :-D <daftykins> seriously? :P <EriC^^> OerHeks: mind your table manners please :P <OerHeks> plus vivid 15.04 beta2 <lotuspsychje> i rather like straight ubuntu in here <OerHeks> EriC^^, i have never been banned, i am missing some experience. <OerHeks> I am hungry, thinking what i should make for diner. <lotuspsychje> !cookie <ubot5> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! <lotuspsychje> cool bot works here too <ki7mt> +1 .. I would not mind all the offcical ditro's, Lub, Xub, Kub, etc being in #ubuntu but not Kali and all those. <lordievader> People allways wonder why everything is together in #ubuntu+1. <EriC^^> i just made something gross, hamburger bread with ketchup mustard and cheese, microwaved, OerHeks i wouldn't recommend <daftykins> ki7mt: those are already fine to be discussed in there <EriC^^> i was too lazy to order pizza <daftykins> it's all the downstream distros like Mint, this new Backbox thing and Elementary OS - all that rubbish :) <ki7mt> And Mint especially, that one really gets on my nerves, even though I test pkgs on it. <lotuspsychje> true <daftykins> back in a tick <OerHeks> Sad thing is, thoose forks are too lazy to give support. For pentesting distros i can imagine, who wants to help wannabee-hackers? <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sounds real healthy :p * lotuspsychje lowers his hand <lotuspsychje> i never got that, pentesting tools can be just downloaded as packages..whats the big deal <lotuspsychje> !info john <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It is usefull to have them all together, then you can just start a vm and done. <ubot5> john (source: john): active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.0-2 (utopic), package size 213 kB, installed size 956 kB <ki7mt> OerHeks, Most of them cant provide support, as the base engine is Ubuntu, and they don't re-spin the packaging, so they've no real knowledge of what's really going on. <ki7mt> At least with Ubuntu, it's a fairly tight integration to Debian. <ki7mt> 90+% of the Mint users say Mint is not Ubuntu .. I disagree, it's Ubuntu with a variant DE + More Bugs ;) <lotuspsychje> bbl guys <ki7mt> man, python-pil v2.6.1 is giving me major issues on 14.10 and Jessie .. I hope they backport 2.5.3 as 2.6.1 is FUBAR <ki7mt> How many of you all are Ubuntu Members ? I've been working on that for a while, but I dont seem to be making much progress in getting the membership. <OerHeks> ki7mt, i am, after 5 years of hangin in #ubuntu and giving support. <OerHeks> ki7mt, but there is no minimum time to it, you need to prove that you contribute, and find persons who want to write a testimonial for you <OerHeks> * and have no history of beiing banned for childish reasons and such <ki7mt> Yeah, Iv'e been here off and on for at least 5yrs, been using UB since the 5.04 or there abouts. <OerHeks> ki7mt, go for it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership <ki7mt> I've never been banned, ever. I've had situations where we had to "Agree to Disagree", but nothing nasty ever. <ki7mt> OerHeks, Yeah., I've done some Doc work, packaging, Q&A, IRC, QA ISO and app testing, just not in mass quanity. <OerHeks> ki7mt, you might have done more for ubuntu than i did sofar, who can tell, who can judge? <ki7mt> Im also upstram on several packages, so time is also an issue. <ki7mt> .. upstream <ki7mt> I guess I could throw my name in the hat, and see what the feedback is .. I just dont do rejection very well :-) <OerHeks> Take your time to write something about yourself, and let me know please. <ki7mt> I think I have my wiki up .. have to go find it, I don't spend allot of time on it, maybe I should. <ki7mt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT <OerHeks> yeah, just saw your Karma :-D <ki7mt> It's not very high, I've not done allot fo packaging work lately. <ki7mt> Karma on Launchpad that is. <OerHeks> This is the past, what do you expect from beiing a member? <OerHeks> from-of* <lordievader> I get the feeling you'll do fine, ki7mt. <OerHeks> me too, lordievader <ki7mt> That's a good question .. I suppose, from a personal standpoint it's a sense of achievement, from a Ubuntu community stanpoint, give back to the community, help drive and shape the future of various aspects things like that. <OerHeks> True. <ki7mt> I dont think we get Karma for IRC though do we ? <ki7mt> at least, not on Launchpad <OerHeks> No, i don't think so. <OerHeks> ..maybe !cookie | ki7mt counts <lordievader> Hehe <ki7mt> Yeah, I would think so, those are cool <lordievader> !cookie | ki7mt <ubot5> ki7mt: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! <OerHeks> /msg ubottu i love you # +10 <ki7mt> I like cookies :-) <lordievader> ki7mt: You'll love the Darkside, we got cookies :D <ki7mt> Indeed :-) <OerHeks> ki7mt, that 98 should really try mint :-D <ki7mt> Yeah, I use Mint, mostly for testing, but I dont like Green :-) <OerHeks> I like green, but mint is slower than ubuntu <OerHeks> microseconds, but slower. <lordievader> Time to learn some awk. <ki7mt> Yeah, I noticed that too on 17.1, like opening the FM and things, first time around it like stalls then goes. <lordievader> Awk is pretty sweet. <ki7mt> awk, sed and grep, if you can master those three thing, CLI is stupid powerful <lordievader> I'm quite okay with sed and grep. But all I could do in awk before was print out a column. #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-15 <daftykins> EriC^^: granted i've just come home from the weekly pub quiz, thus some alcohol has been consumed, but what the hell is this josselin on about O_O <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> beats me :D <daftykins> now i've gotta restart for Windows updates, but don't tell anyone else the game will be afoot... <EriC^^> hehe <EriC^^> ok <daftykins> done \o/ <daftykins> SSDs are great <EriC^^> cool <uncleRoy> Evening ... anyone here? <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/No-Reboot-Patching-Comes-to-Ubuntu-15-10-via-Linux-Kernel-4-0-Says-Mark-Shuttleworth-478400.shtml <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: yes morning here <lotuspsychje> 7h <ablest1980> 1am <ablest1980> here <lotuspsychje> cool <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: how long do you support in #ubuntu? <ablest1980> today? <lotuspsychje> all time :p <ablest1980> since 14.04lts <lotuspsychje> cool, you running trusty yourself? <ablest1980> yes <lotuspsychje> me too, i like LTS <ablest1980> me too <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: im gonna start an ubuntu computer shop in my country soon <ablest1980> uk? <lotuspsychje> with only samsung 850 pro ssd's inside and trusty <lotuspsychje> belgium <ablest1980> cool <lotuspsychje> ill try to sell laptops, desktops, tablets and ubuntu phone <lotuspsychje> i think the mass public is ready for this <ablest1980> yes <ablest1980> wish you luck <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: thank you <ablest1980> np SD <ablest1980> XD <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: wich machine do you run trusty on <ablest1980> hp pavilion <ablest1980> notebook <ablest1980> g6 <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: ah nice, do you know if HP sells barebone laptops? <lotuspsychje> i hear hp is really linux friendly <ki7mt> They are for sure <ablest1980> for me yes <ki7mt> There printers are really good with Linux. <ki7mt> Their .. <lotuspsychje> im looking for a barebone laptop company who can send laptops without Os and Hd's <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: yeah thats my plan also, only hp printer with that hplip tools installed <ki7mt> All of them would, given enough $$ on the table. <lotuspsychje> did you see those new HP pc monitors, their fantastic <ablest1980> lotuspsychje https://system76.com/ <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: yeah i know them, pretty nice but rather expensive <ki7mt> From a business standpoint, I'd stay away from high turnover hardware, the cost really comes in with locking in a configuration HW wsie, and forcing them to stick to it for say 3-5yrs. <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: what you mean by high turnover <ki7mt> If your rolling with Ubuntu, 3yrs production, 3yrs maint, 4yr needs to be dev for next release .. adn that means HW continuity for them both. <ki7mt> Chipset changes can cause you nightmares, component turnover .. <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont want broadcom and atheros chipset for sure in my systems to sell <ki7mt> especially with a small operation, where your Marketing, Engineering, Manufacturing and Sales :-) <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: wich company would you choose in my case <lotuspsychje> its gonna be a small stire + service <lotuspsychje> store <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna sell 10 brands of different systems to clients neither <ki7mt> Me personally, I like HP for Servers, and well, may as well go all in with HP. Dell is pretty descent too though, Linux support wise, BUT I hate their NIC harware. <lotuspsychje> dell is really fast on ubuntu i noticed <lotuspsychje> what kind of NIC you dont like on dell? <lotuspsychje> i think ill contact HP soon :p <ablest1980> :) <ki7mt> Your gonna want a small business package, for like an ofice with say 10 to 20 people or something, Servers, Network, Desktops and Laptops .. small packages, not million dollar deals, but more of a turn key setup for a small new company. <lotuspsychje> its gonna be smaller <lotuspsychje> webshop+store at home+service <ki7mt> Dell was BCM, Im an Intel NIC fan all the way. <lotuspsychje> right <lotuspsychje> intel wifi is pretty decent for sure <ablest1980> my hp is amd <ki7mt> Yeah, I mean, if the local coffis shop want new boxes, Laptop and Desktops or something,. it's best if you can keep all the same vendors. <lotuspsychje> good idea <ki7mt> Makes you life easy, OEM support contracts easy warranty replacements easy .. all == EASY for you to manage. <ablest1980> i see dell alot <ki7mt> Yeah, there cheap, and they have good marketing too. <ki7mt> HP not the the cheapest, but cheapest isn't always the "bestest" :-) <lotuspsychje> true <ki7mt> You gonna want warranty support and service support .. thats where HO is really good. <ki7mt> HP no HO <lotuspsychje> im also gonna do transforming for customers: bring your w8 machine and ill put samsung ssd 850 pro+trusty inside <ki7mt> Carful with that though, SSD == USB3 .. <ki7mt> Older boxes may only have USB2 <lotuspsychje> its gonna be system boost for sure <ki7mt> The again, you could always sell them a MB upgrade package :-) <ki7mt> MB, RAM and SSD 800 bucks, super fast PC <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> well for 120 euro, you got already a nice ssd from samsung <ki7mt> they get to reuse their Box and PSU :-) <lotuspsychje> yes! <lotuspsychje> i got me an acer netbook + ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit + samsung evo 840 <lotuspsychje> goes rocketfast <lotuspsychje> 5sec boot 3 sec halt <ki7mt> That's the Buiz I'd go after, Upgrade Buiz .. + Linux <ki7mt> then you cna Gaurentt 10x faster boots or whtever Marketing Blurb ya want to use. <ki7mt> Gaurentee .. <lotuspsychje> check this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRYGuM4ckN0 <ki7mt> that drive here is about 80 bucks. <lotuspsychje> yeah im gonna use that for marketing trick for sure <lotuspsychje> resource your computer is my slogan <lotuspsychje> once they got LTS installed, they use their machines for years <lotuspsychje> no comming back to the pc store every month with virusses :p <ki7mt> yeah, so 100 buxk for MB, 100 bucks for SSD, and noew i5 100 bucks, Gross Margin ( Selling Price - Cost ) / Selling Price, your target needs to be 45-50% Gross Margin. <lotuspsychje> i can save money with the barebones, no pay for the Os and hd <ki7mt> So from there you can set you Sellign price for the Package. <ki7mt> Yeah, of course, but you gotta make money, and at some point, gotta pay yourself :-) <lotuspsychje> yeah sure, im gonna try to setup neat prices <+ benefit <ki7mt> Bare bones Laptops are not easy to get hold of, for the very reason your talking about. <lotuspsychje> BTO laptops.nl does it, but not very cheap neither <lotuspsychje> i hope i can make a deal with HP <ki7mt> Nope, they dont want them cheap ./. You may be better of, buy a minimal equipted box, stipping it out, upgrade it, then sell off the other stuff on Ebay or whtever. <lotuspsychje> or placing the existing hd into a case for storage for the customer <ki7mt> Yeah, your gonna need an edge somwhere as there's no way you can compete with their Marketing, Sales & Service. <lotuspsychje> but as you said, i dont wanna be the cheapest <lotuspsychje> i want stable + fast <ki7mt> I really loo hard at low-end i5 Laptops, and make sure I could upgrade them to what I wanted. <ki7mt> .. look hard .. <lotuspsychje> ok <ki7mt> if it will run an I5, it will run an i3 and i7 more than liekly, but it's the SSD cost, RAM upgrades and the like you need to look at. <ki7mt> Th thing is, with an SSD, you dont need an i7 <lotuspsychje> yeah with 4 or 8gig ram + ssd 850 pro, it will do magic on the machine <lotuspsychje> true <lotuspsychje> too pricy for the end customer also <lotuspsychje> or maybe a gaming monster once in a while <ki7mt> Not unless your a developer of something where you max out CPU cycles allot. <lotuspsychje> steam gaming desktop <ki7mt> Thats more GPU than CPU <lotuspsychje> true <ki7mt> Then ya sell them your Deaktop Gamming Version for mo $$$ <ki7mt> Desktop .. <lotuspsychje> the gaming part will be harder <lotuspsychje> as i have to convice them only use steam <ki7mt> Hook them with the work setup, real them in with Gamming and Dev Workstations. <lotuspsychje> i think: lowcost netbook, multimedia laptop,high end laptop <ki7mt> Real gamers know what they need, but that's not what sells, it's "what they want" is what sells, hard core gamers always over buy what they really need. <lotuspsychje> then mulitmedia dekstop, and high end gaming desktop <lotuspsychje> system76 makes difference with mulitmedia/business <ki7mt> they need 32GB ram, 2x SSD's i7's or Multi-CPU AMD's Nvidia Quadro's on and on an on <lotuspsychje> i wont do that <lotuspsychje> wanna keep it simple <ki7mt> lol that's smart <lotuspsychje> so sticking to i5 is good idea <ki7mt> I built allot of custom Water-Cooled boxes for Gamers, they stupid money on that crap. All so they can overclock it, and buy a new one next year when it frys <lotuspsychje> tnx for the hint <ki7mt> I thin i5 or really, i3 for a Laprop, then you get much better Batt Life, but i5 is a brand name seller for sure. <lotuspsychje> you know of those intel NUC's perform good on ubuntu? <ki7mt> it all depends. I mean really, most people use their laptop for surfing and social media, with Music and a few vid's thrown in for good measure, that dont take allot of CPU power. <lotuspsychje> might get a 'clean' feeling as house desktop with neat hp screen :p <lotuspsychje> small NUC on their table :p <ki7mt> I built several NUC's and alot of Mini-ITX boxed .. ~500 bucks out the door. <lotuspsychje> nice <ki7mt> I use i3 3.8Ghz 2 core ( not quad ) for the Mini-ITX boxes. <lotuspsychje> maybe ill use the cheapest NUC as lowend desktop <ki7mt> there really fast, and with amSATA or SSD, stupid fast. <lotuspsychje> yeah msata samsung 850 pro <lotuspsychje> will rocknroll <ki7mt> Checkinto the Mini-ITX i5 boards, 200 bucks, CPU and MB, add SSD, your at 300 bucks, Ram, 100 bucks, case 50 bucks, Ubuntu OS. Done. <ki7mt> al for 450 bucks. and lightening fast. <lotuspsychje> nice <ki7mt> and it will run ion your car with a 7" LCD display <ki7mt> in your car .. if ya got a AC plug that is <lotuspsychje> the store will make a new ubuntu life <lotuspsychje> with the BQ and meizu phone thats on the market <lotuspsychje> will be nice <ki7mt> Im gonna sell the Mini-ITX boxes to Ham radio guys, they love them <lotuspsychje> ill transform nexus7 as ubuntu touch tablets too <lotuspsychje> cool idea <ki7mt> i thought about that, but it's fiddly for me, Im better with normal boxes. <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: its really not hard to do, check the #ubuntu-touch topic to install <lotuspsychje> i bought me a nexus7 just for ubuntu <lotuspsychje> and runs flawless <ki7mt> Yeah, I know, allot of folks think ya gonna be a rocket scientist .. it's really not that hard. <lotuspsychje> lol <ki7mt> Just look at the Raspberry Pi's those things are like gold .. and only 35 Bucks here. <lotuspsychje> nice n cheap <ki7mt> shoot, a 16GB mSD card costs 2/3 rds the price of the Pi .. LOL <lotuspsychje> lol lol <ki7mt> I bought a card for mine, was like 18 dollars, Pi was 35. <ki7mt> and it's a Quad Core 1Hgz ARM <ki7mt> 1Ghz ARMv7 <lotuspsychje> with snappy core, its gonna be even more intersting in the future <lotuspsychje> many brands will use ubuntu <ki7mt> It's impressive to say the least, Im runnign Lubuntu ( Debian Jessie + LXDE ) and it works great. <lotuspsychje> did you hear about ninja spere? <lotuspsychje> nice <ki7mt> Yeah, I just burned the Ubuntu Core image yesterday, I've not isntalled it yet, gonna check it out. <ki7mt> No, what' Ninja Sphere? <lotuspsychje> holdon <lotuspsychje> https://ninjablocks.com/ <lotuspsychje> its an inernet of things device running on snappy :p <ki7mt> That's pretty cool. Our Frig has a computer on the front of it, WiFI an All, the other half googl's cooking directions all the time, good ole Gordon Ramsey :-) <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> ill nmap your frig and hack me an egg :p <ki7mt> dont tell I said this, but she can't cook at all .. but .. she tries, is all I ask :-) <lotuspsychje> if its good between the sheets, no worries :p:p <ki7mt> So I was OK with getting the more expensive Frig that told her how to cooks stuff .. LMAO <lotuspsychje> boil an egg once in a while yourself then <ki7mt> Shhet is one thing, Chow is another .. burn beans on toast suxs .. lol <lotuspsychje> haha <ki7mt> Actually, I do most of the cooking, one, she can't cook, and two, her mother never tough here how to clean, it's like a bimb goes off in the kitchen when she's done, I can't stand it. <ablest1980> bbl bye :D <ki7mt> like a bomb ... <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: laterz <ki7mt> CUL <lotuspsychje> lolz <ki7mt> Ok, I need a brew and to debug some code, so CUL after while. <lotuspsychje> ok cheers and tnx for the tips <lotuspsychje> somsip: welcome :p <somsip> ayup. I'm not as active as I have been as I just lurk and help while I work, but I'm usually around <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate, its not about whos' most active, just the quality of supporters :p <lotuspsychje> we always doing support, but never have a real change to talk to each other <lotuspsychje> this might give some changes <somsip> and I admit I vary depending on caffeine levels, but I try :) <somsip> ok - i'm here anyway <lotuspsychje> we also pretty coffee slaves/idlers ourselfs :p <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Ubuntu-Touch-Devel-Version-Based-on-Vivid-Is-Out-478430.shtml <lordievader> Good afternoon. <BluesKaj> Hiyas all <ki7mt> Hello All, as some may know, I'm working toward Ubuntu membership. ; I' have updated my Wiki page ( need typo / spelling checks still ) but if you have some spare time, could you take a look. If your familiar with my community activities, feel free to leave a comment. Feedback for improvement would be very much appreciated. Linky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT <OerHeks> :-) <ki7mt> Thanks OerHeks .. and yes, that question did throw me off guard a bit :-) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-16 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> 'Morning all #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-17 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <ablest1980> gm <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: hello mate <ablest1980> hello <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced <ablest1980> website loading <ablest1980> im updating <lotuspsychje> oh okay :p <ablest1980> looks good <lotuspsychje> yeah alot of ubuntu devices rise up these days <lotuspsychje> thats promising <ablest1980> :) <ablest1980> we got different a/c plugs in us <ablest1980> ---(}= <lotuspsychje> ah <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-04-Vivid-Vervet-Is-Now-in-Final-Freeze-Arrives-on-April-23-478634.shtml <lotuspsychje> vivid almost there <ablest1980> 15.04 lts is comming? <ablest1980> next week? <lotuspsychje> not lts <lotuspsychje> !15.04 <ubot5> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) will be the 22nd release of Ubuntu due for release in April 2015. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. For more info see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425 <ablest1980> beta? <lotuspsychje> final <lotuspsychje> and next week official release yes <ablest1980> ok <ablest1980> softpedia link stil loading <ablest1980> software updater install java 8 <lotuspsychje> kk <ablest1980> join #ubuntu-offtopic lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: why? <ablest1980> people talking there <ablest1980> lotuspsychje bbl <ki7mt> Evening / Morning / Afternoon All :-) <lordievader> Good morning. <BluesKaj> Hey folks <OerHeks> Hey BluesKaj :-D <OerHeks> How is life? <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks, just fine here thanks , and you? <OerHeks> Just finished hanging laundry in the sun, walking the dogs, making diner for mom in the hospital, and life is looking great, weekend is comming. <OerHeks> Lack of funding for an ubuntu-phone is just a detail. <BluesKaj> funny I have no desire to buy an iubuntu phone , even if it was available <OerHeks> Just for fun. <OerHeks> I love to read people working on it in #ubuntu-touch * popey tickles OerHeks <OerHeks> hi popey :-D <OerHeks> and yes, i tried to fold a origami thing, not that handy with paper i am afraid <daftykins> oh dear Tux, not the 'when is it out?' talk again :( <BluesKaj> yeah , it's already starting...are we there yet ? :) <daftykins> ;) <OerHeks> I answer that question with '27th' :-) <BluesKaj> OerHeks, it's 23rd <OerHeks> I know, now. <daftykins> it might get delayed like whichever last time ;) <OerHeks> oke ATA = 23th around sometime before midnight <OerHeks> because that would be q nr 2 #ubuntu-discuss 2015-04-18 <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml <hopefullythisnic> hey psycho? <lotuspsychje> yep <lotuspsychje> wb <hopefullythisnic> ty, i havent used irc in FOREVER so i couldnt remember the damn command to connect to another channel <lotuspsychje> hopefullythisnic: did you see this one : http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml <lotuspsychje> i like xchat for irc <hopefullythisnic> yea i have hexchat on my windows os lol <lotuspsychje> :p <hopefullythisnic> what kind of machine are you running? <lotuspsychje> im currently on an acer netbook ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit with samsung evo 840 <lotuspsychje> (sec boot/3sec halt <hopefullythisnic> cool <lotuspsychje> but im gonna open an ubuntu computer shop in my country soon <hopefullythisnic> whereabouts are you located? <lotuspsychje> belgium <hopefullythisnic> oh, interesting <lotuspsychje> not many shops do ubuntu here <hopefullythisnic> i bet you could work out some sort of deal with sys76 <lotuspsychje> yes but better lol <hopefullythisnic> yea <lotuspsychje> laptops/desktops/tablets/phones all with ubuntu <hopefullythisnic> oh nice <hopefullythisnic> is the full phone os out yet? <lotuspsychje> i got myself nexus7 with touch works smooth <lotuspsychje> yes <hopefullythisnic> oh <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch <hopefullythisnic> nice <lotuspsychje> and 2 phone brands are out <hopefullythisnic> orly? <lotuspsychje> BQ and meizu will follow soon <hopefullythisnic> im in the market for a new phone <hopefullythisnic> should i wait? <lotuspsychje> you can buy a Bq right now <hopefullythisnic> Gonna look that up, se <hopefullythisnic> '*sec <lotuspsychje> http://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5 <lotuspsychje> 169 euro <hopefullythisnic> im in the us tho <lotuspsychje> oh <lotuspsychje> then you cant order <hopefullythisnic> yea <lotuspsychje> youll have to wait the meizu then <hopefullythisnic> cant i put it on android hardware myself? <lotuspsychje> only nexus devices yes <hopefullythisnic> damn <lotuspsychje> i hear nexus 4 and 5 run pretty smooth <lotuspsychje> and one guy have a project on oneplusone phone <hopefullythisnic> ohh <hopefullythisnic> nice <hopefullythisnic> i was looking at that anyway <lotuspsychje> he recently got wifi working on it <hopefullythisnic> oh, he must be a ways off then lol <lotuspsychje> you can idle in #ubuntu-touch for that <hopefullythisnic> alrighty <lotuspsychje> the guy is mariogrip, if you got questions <hopefullythisnic> brb, just gonna go find a spare hdd and reinstall windows while im talking to you <lotuspsychje> kk <hopefullythisnic> its okay if i use a usb hdd right? <hopefullythisnic> i dont feel like takin it apart again lol <lotuspsychje> to dualboot with ubuntu? <hopefullythisnic> actually <hopefullythisnic> that <hopefullythisnic> that's dumb <hopefullythisnic> ill just grab a real hdd\ <hopefullythisnic> sec <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | hopefullythisnic <ubot5> hopefullythisnic: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot <hopefullythisnic> disassembling now, sorry for bein antisocial lol <lotuspsychje> dont worry im afk and idle alot too <hopefullythisnic> k whew <hopefullythisnic> thats done <hopefullythisnic> its hot as hell rn <hopefullythisnic> somehow i manged to slice my fingers open on a stick of ram :( <daftykins> ouch! <daftykins> i did that once building a PC for my brother <daftykins> "erm, sorry about the blood covered RAM..." <daftykins> hilariously the blood went in finger print patterns too <daftykins> definitely not one of my crowning moments in hardware ;) <hopefullythisnic> lol <hopefullythisnic> okay why wont this boot into the windows installation disk anymore <hopefullythisnic> ugh <lotuspsychje> set cdrom as first boot <lotuspsychje> or maybe uefi settings in bios <daftykins> boot priority is a waste of time really, one-time boot menus make more sense <daftykins> (if available) <hopefullythisnic> yea but i dont see it in uefi bios rn <daftykins> optical or flash drive? <hopefullythisnic> optical <daftykins> hmm, reduce it back to the minimal configuration without any HDDs or SSDs plugged in <daftykins> and see if it auto goes to the optical to boot <daftykins> and ensure the optical (if SATA presumably) is connected to motherboard chipset based SATA and not a third party controller chip such as lots often have to provide more ports <ki7mt> Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL .. that should list them all. <ki7mt> Whoops, sorry wrong channel <daftykins> :D <ki7mt> Post in the channel pse Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL .. that should list them all <ki7mt> It did it again !!! I think my IRC client is FUBAR :-) <ki7mt> re-launch time me thinks <lordievader> Good morning. <daftykins> o/ <daftykins> how are you, lordievader ? <lordievader> Hey daftykins, doing good here. How are you? <daftykins> also good here thanks :) <daftykins> a fine morning it is <BluesKaj> Howdy all <BluesKaj> 'Morning lotuspsychje <OerHeks> \o/ <OerHeks> My dogs think it is too hot outside <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj <BluesKaj> maybe your dogs are right :) <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hi <BluesKaj> think I'm going to do a clean install of Kubuntu 15.04 after the official release , my version is mucked up with diiferent colours as default depending on which Qt version they're using <OerHeks> 22 april openstach seminar, 23 april install 15.04, 24 april find a 4th leg for my large computertable. <BluesKaj> plasma5 intehration doen't seem to work on my desktop install, the laptop version is fine <OerHeks> openstack* <OerHeks> oh, i forget, 20 april payday, so i have 1 day off this week <BluesKaj> plsama 5 integration of plasma 4 depenent apps l;ike dolphin <lordievader> Have you guys played with Dracut? <lotuspsychje> lordievader: whats dracut? <lordievader> Counterpart of initramfs-tools. <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself <BluesKaj> I'm tempted to reinstall the latest daily <lordievader> It fails to boot my luks + lvm :( <lordievader> Or it is systemd who fails, not really sure. <BluesKaj> sddm ? <lordievader> BluesKaj: Was that to me? <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes <lordievader> This is at the mounting of the root fs stage. It is a really bare system. Just wanted to see if it boots. <BluesKaj> ok, so you're chrooting <lordievader> No. <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: keep us up to date on the openstack if it was interesting ok :p <lordievader> Dracut or systemd is trying to mount the luks partition but fails or something, I don't
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