#ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-04 <itnet7> ninksink: to answer your question earlier, I personally haven't doned anything involving LogRhythm <itnet7> Hey there n3gbz ! <n3gbz> hey! <itnet7> How are you doing? <n3gbz> Pretty good, thanks, how about you? <itnet7> also good <n3gbz> I'm still in Orlando; start back to Pennsylvania on Saturday <itnet7> n3gbz: cool! Have you had a chance to rest? Or working? <n3gbz> little of both <govatent> hello <itnet7> hey there <epidemic> where's the agenda for the 2nd? <itnet7> Epidemic: there wasn't one, no one added anything <itnet7> do you mean the minutes? <itnet7> I will put them up tonight <itnet7> hopefully <Epidemic> anything for the meeting, was at least trying to catch up with what was being discussed and what's coming up <Epidemic> s/for/from <itnet7> We only discussed doing an installfest in Miami area, I will try to get the logs up, the mootbot was down <itnet7> We also posted links for pictures from UDS <itnet7> crashsystems1: feeling any better? <crashsystems1> Yep <itnet7> cool! <Epidemic> what was the cause of the nausea? <crashsystems1> Some food just decided it did not like me. Happens rather often <Epidemic> I know something that'll make you feel better.... Here's an internet speedtest I ran at a cusotmers site... http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/435/screenshot20101104at347.png <crashsystems1> How is that supposed to make me feel better? <Epidemic> that you don't have that horrible bandwidth <crashsystems1> Good point <Epidemic> feeling better now? :) <crashsystems1> Yes <itnet7> bbiab <govatent> are there any tips to make evolution go quicker? <mhall119> what version are you running? <mhall119> govatent: ^^ <govatent> 2.30.2 <govatent> .3 <govatent> sorry <mhall119> hmm, that version has no more bonobo, so it should automatically be faster <mhall119> do you have any web calendars? I've noticed it stalls while those are being loaded #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-05 <Chloric> evening everyone <reya276> anyone in <crashsystems1> Somewhat <reya276> I'm trying to figure out how to run an app I installed through synaptic <reya276> but is not on the applications menu <crashsystems1> What app? <reya276> let me get the name of the package <reya276> one sec <reya276> this is the package name kde-config-tablet <crashsystems1> Don't have ubuntu up atm. If nothing else, grab the deb and look inside to see what extracts where <reya276> but is from the package manager how would I do that? <crashsystems1> Well, you could go to packages.ubuntu.com <reya276> k thanks <reya276> ok this is what I found http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/amd64/kde-config-tablet/download but yet no command on how to run it <reya276> its called something like this kcm_tablet <Hamaliel> Heya folks :) <Chloric> hey <Hamaliel> Hows it going Chloric? <Chloric> watching IT Crowd <Hamaliel> No idea what that is hah <Chloric> british comedy <Hamaliel> Gotcha. I like British television :) <Chloric> yup! <Hamaliel> Huge Doctor Who fan <Chloric> and Little Britain is good too <Hamaliel> I haven't seen Little Britain in ages =D <Chloric> lol my dad has like every doctor who episode and has em i think <Hamaliel> That's awesome. <Hamaliel> Those things are too damn expensive to own :( <Hamaliel> like 90 bucks a season or something over here. <Chloric> O_O i know <Chloric> its ridiculous <Hamaliel> I'd like to own em all, but I can't even afford to get a single season without breaking the bank * Hamaliel glares <Chloric> hahaha <Chloric> my dad starting buying them after he stopped paying for gas <Hamaliel> I wanna stop paying for gas! <Chloric> my dads company's pays for his gas <Hamaliel> Oh wow. I wish my company did the same. <Hamaliel> I don't even get benefits! <Chloric> he's a pre-construction manager.... whatever that is <Hamaliel> Dunno, but it sounds exciting :) <Chloric> lol <Hamaliel> Anywho, just wanted to drop in and say hey. I gotta get to bed =D <Chloric> take care man <Hamaliel> So, Chloric, anyone else who may not be afk, you all have a good night :) <Hamaliel> later! <reya276> I still can't find a way to run this kde-config-tablet <reya276> Morning Everyone <DammitJim> morning <itnet7> morning reya276 ! <DammitJim> anyone here have a honda odyssey? <itnet7> o/ <itnet7> I do <itnet7> Well.. Hannya does <DammitJim> does your cd player still work? <itnet7> Mine is older <DammitJim> I'll buy it from you LOL <DammitJim> dammit <itnet7> no cd player, don't think <DammitJim> my kids played with the CD player and jammed something in there... now there is no CD option <itnet7> I put in an aftermarket eclipse head unit <DammitJim> nice! <DammitJim> I'm about to buy just an iPod adapter for the AUX <DammitJim> it's too bad there is no interface for an Android phone :( <itnet7> Well you can use the old cassette to 3.5mm possibly <itnet7> it wouldn't work in my toyota but YMMV <DammitJim> no cassette here <reya276> itnet7, morning <itnet7> Does it support bluetooth? <itnet7> reya276: how did your upgrade/backup stuff go? <DammitJim> no bluetooth... <reya276> horrible, simple backup on the new version(10.10) had a new version of their app that could not read the backup due to it being 1.4 and on maverick is 1.5. So is a good thing I was able to get into the backup drive as root and extract the zipped files. <itnet7> Wow, so I will definitely never recommend simple backup <reya276> right <itnet7> I would like to play around a little more with backup stuff when I get the chance. That backintime app I mentioned is supposed to be like 'timevault' <reya276> oh trust me the app works great is just that their new version can't read the backups made by the older version. But I use it all the time and the darn thing works great. All they need to fix is that bug. It tried to convert the old backup to the new version format but it failed. <itnet7> Ah!@ <itnet7> Well at least you were still able to get to it and use the them <itnet7> Just wouldn't recommend it to some of the newer folks <itnet7> I.... Just wouldn't recommend it to some of the newer folks <reya276> but since there was no way of know that they would have a newer version on maverick than on Lucid then once you upgrade your screwed <itnet7> Yeah <reya276> right <reya276> not unless you know what your doing <itnet7> When I do linux SIGs they ask me all the time what I use for backups <itnet7> I personally just use rsync <reya276> see I don't know what that is <reya276> BRB <itnet7> it's what most of the gui backup apps use behind the scenes <mhall119> does anyone use the project-manager plugin for gedit? <itnet7> mhall119: only in playing around with it, not much more <mhall119> well if anyone does, I added the ability to save and restore the working directory from the file browser <itnet7> cool! <mhall119> might enhance it more as I go, but that was the one thing I hated not having <Jake2|cfl> itnet7: when is the next "BUG" linux meeting? <Jake2|cfl> itnet7: oops--wife says I need to go now <NCommander> Hey all, I'm looking for a Tim who might have taken notes during the spice seeds session at UDS <NCommander> Anyone know who that is (or what their handle might be?) <MichelleQ1> hhm... Don't know, but can ask around, if you'd like. <MichelleQ1> is there a spice-devel channel? <MichelleQ1> OK, there were two Tims on the UDS-N attendee list <MichelleQ1> which can be found here: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n <MichelleQ1> Maybe one of them? <NCommander> MichelleQ1: thanks <Chloric> evening guys <Chloric> i just tested out a Wacom Bamboo tablet on my netbook and it functions beautifully <tiemonster> Chloric: I'm glad! I was worried when I saw you talking about that the other day. <Chloric> yeah, sorry. i havent had the chance to use it <Chloric> im at my girlfriends house editing stuff on GIMP <tiemonster> sounds like fun <Chloric> it works great <Chloric> it worked out of the box <tiemonster> pictionary is fun with a tablet <Chloric> most of the buttons work out of the box too <Chloric> only the FN1 and FN2 buttons arent working <tiemonster> Chloric: http://www.gameshot.org/?id=2316 <reya276> anyone in? <Chloric> damn <Chloric> i couldnt make rectangles <reya276> hey has anyone used Kleansweep before <Chloric> whats it for? i could try it out <reya276> oh is to clean your OS of duplicated, deprecated, broken symlinks, empty dir, empty files <reya276> there are files that seem to be empty but I'm not sure if they should be empty or are needed <reya276> like this empty directory for example /home/reya276/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm/0/0 <reya276> do I even need that <reya276> and there are tons of these listed <reya276> oh my god and the empty files are insane <reya276> I can't believe this I just installed this OS last night <reya276> I'm guessing is because I restored my /Home Dir it create duplicate and extra file that I no longer need but there is no way for me to tell what is good or not <reya276> If you delete a file and then run applications do the applications create them again? #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-06 <mhall119> reya276: depends on the files <reya276> yeah I decided to use BleachBit <reya276> It actually tells you if you should select an action or not <reya276> yeah the files it could not delete it did not <reya276> so it worked ok <Bryanstein> itnet7, <byte_me> good morning <mhall119> morning <byte_me> the joy of being at work on a saturday .... there's nothing going on online <coder2> ubuntu lucid10.04+kernel panic:not syncing+attempted to kill init+no init found..........can anyone help?? <Chloric> afternon <Chloric> afternoon* #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-07 <Chloric> hey itnet <itnet7> hey there Chloric ! <Chloric> hows it going? <Chloric> i had a question <itnet7> go ahead <itnet7> sorry for the delay catching up on some stuff in the background <Chloric> thats ok man, <Chloric> and i was wondering if you were doing anything LoCo related during thanksgiving week. im going up for 10 days <Chloric> i'll be in Orlando no less <itnet7> going up? <itnet7> Oh <itnet7> cool!! <Chloric> so if your throwing anything LoCo related, i could catch up <itnet7> cool, I am not sure, usually I try not to do anything around major (family related) holidays <itnet7> but if you eat Turkey... '=_ <itnet7> oops <itnet7> that was supposed to be: :-P <itnet7> We could hang out regardless <Chloric> thats cool and for sure <Chloric> i'll be in my teepee for those ten days :p <itnet7> Oh! <itnet7> cool <Chloric> so we could meet up any time i <itnet7> Awesome! <itnet7> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2010/11/how-to-install-and-play-popular-game.html <----- Sweet! <Chloric> oh, i dont know if you were on last night, but i was using a Wacom bamboo tablet with Ubuntu <Chloric> there were a ton of conversations about it on here <Chloric> i used my girlfriends and i was using it as a mouse the whole night <itnet7> Oh, I'll have to read the backlog <itnet7> nice! <Chloric> everything worked except for the FN1 and FN2 button <itnet7> Did the gui configuration detect it? <Chloric> nope, nothing. it worked right out of the box, i never messed with any program <Chloric> i plugged it in and it all worked <Chloric> scrolling, gestures, right clicking, drag and drop, and changing work spaces <itnet7> Cool, I was just thinkin that you might be able to bind those non-working FN1 and FN2 buttons with the app. potentially <Chloric> yeah, those were Corel specific buttons <itnet7> brb gonna test the install to see if that "True Combat Elite" mod shows up in game <Chloric> i couldve done so, but i was having fun with it <Chloric> i was using GIMP <itnet7> They are really cool <itnet7> That install was flawless, can't play the mod online, because I never entered my CD key <Chloric> what mod? <itnet7> Hey there Bryanstein ! <itnet7> Chloric: the "True Elite Combat" Mod <itnet7> but you need to have the key from Enemy Territory: the Original one <Chloric> OH, forgot i opened that link... playing minecraft and listening to music lol <itnet7> :-P <Chloric> the graphics look amazing <itnet7> brb, gonna try it again since I just found me key :-) <Chloric> ok <Gyndawyr> hello <Gyndawyr> I'm looking for some americans :P * mhall119 is american <mhall119> what's up Gyndawyr <Gyndawyr> I've taken 3 SAT subject tests: literature, biology, and math level 1. <mhall119> SAT? <Gyndawyr> Can I retake the ones I did bad in to improve my score? <mhall119> yeah, I think you can take them as many times as you're willing to pay for them <Gyndawyr> yay <mhall119> I'm not sure if colleges look at all the scores, or just the latest, or just the highest <Gyndawyr> because I want to keep my good scores in literature and biology, but erase any history of my awful marks in math <Gyndawyr> do you know anything about the literacy test at all? <mhall119> man, it's been a decade since I took my SATs <mhall119> maybe MichelleQ1 has some insight into those <MichelleQ1> Gyndawyr: the college will look at *all* scores submitted from one test - so, say you took it July 2010 - they'll look at all the marks for all the subjects from that test. * Gyndawyr points to young person <Gyndawyr> but I don't want to keep all my scores <Gyndawyr> just the good ones <MichelleQ1> I know - unfortunately it doesn't work that way <MichelleQ1> what you'll want to do is submit your highest test in general <Gyndawyr> I'll be damned if I have to sit through literature again -_- <Gyndawyr> also, I'll have to get loads of math tuition <MichelleQ1> hahaha, having a rough time with the ilterature sections? <MichelleQ1> where are you trying to go to school at? <Gyndawyr> when something is open to interpretation and prettymuch all of the answers are valid, it becomes difficult to select one out of five on the multiple choice <MichelleQ1> this is true - literature is very hard to objectively test <Gyndawyr> I'm british english, but I want to move to MIT for my graduate year in university <MichelleQ1> ok - call MIT and ask for an admissions counselor. They'd be the best to tell you how to submit your scores <mhall119> maybe you can get an ESOL exception ;) <Gyndawyr> if what you said is true, the best way to submit my scores would be to re-take the exams after I have some sort of education in how to pass the bloody things :) <MichelleQ1> there are all sorts of SAT guides out there <Gyndawyr> the average scores are in the 750 region for people at MIT :S <MichelleQ1> I'd offer to help you study, but it's been years since I've sat for them. I am around though, regularly, should you need some generalized literature help <Gyndawyr> if I have to submit my awful grades along with my good ones, I'd probably be better off resitting the subjects I'm good at along with the ones I failed previously <MichelleQ1> that's what I'd suggest <MichelleQ1> odds are, your good subjects will remain high, but you'd have a chance to improve your low scores. <Gyndawyr> biology felt so easy :D - maybe it's because I've covered most of the material recently <Gyndawyr> I literally guessed 40 out of 50 questions on the math paper <MichelleQ1> yeah, I'm sure I'd fail spectacularly if I sat for the SATs again. <Gyndawyr> you're older than I expected :) <MichelleQ1> If you haven't already, you might want to sit for the ACTs, too - they're generally easier. * MichelleQ1 knocks on 30. * Gyndawyr is 19 next week <Gyndawyr> I know I should remember my education but I have poor memory and it was 4 years ago since I was in math class <MichelleQ1> I sucked at math in high school - I can't imagine I'd been any better at it now. <Gyndawyr> I don't think I'm bad at it as much as I don't enjoy it <MichelleQ1> Why are you headed to MIT? Comp-sci? <Gyndawyr> I plan to go somewhere relatively local for the moment <Gyndawyr> manchester university or similar <Gyndawyr> my grades aren't very good so I don't know what place I'll get <Gyndawyr> I plan to study biology or engineering. I hope to transfer to MIT - bio-engineering when I've done the first part of my degree <MichelleQ1> ah, ok. <mhall119> for not enjoying math, you sure are picking two subjects that are going to require a lot of it <Gyndawyr> imagine what you could do with the ability to program DNA ;) * MichelleQ1 wanted to go into molecular biology <Gyndawyr> even though I hate programming it sounds like something I would do <MichelleQ1> and then I failed calculus. <mhall119> yeah, I've read several articles about molecular computers and such <Gyndawyr> why didn't you Michelle? <MichelleQ1> can't math. <MichelleQ1> :D <MichelleQ1> So I majored in English Lit instead. <Gyndawyr> eugh... I hated math and chemistry. But I've always been naturally good with computers and biology :/ <Gyndawyr> putting it together is fine, it's just programming the thing I'm no good with <MichelleQ1> I found I was good with anything that could be explained to me in concrete terms. But when it came to theoretical math, ... no. <Gyndawyr> hahahahaha I had to learn "don't ask questions" when it comes to education in general <Gyndawyr> otherwise you end up asking "why does gravity only attract?" or "how does energy go through a vaccum?" <MichelleQ1> Yeah, that was my problem... and I couldn't deal with 'just don't ask' <mhall119> well the second is kind of a misconception, but the answer to the first is still "We have no clue" <MichelleQ1> that's part of the reason why I went into literature - I could manipulate the texts as I saw fit, and make the answers my own. <mhall119> I think too many professors of the "hard" sciences are unwilling to admit that nobody in their field knows the answer to something <itnet7> mhall119: ping <mhall119> itnet7: pong <mhall119> but I'm about to leave for the hardware store <mhall119> be back later <itnet7> lol <itnet7> sorry <itnet7> bbiab <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: what is the version of irssi that had that perl module you were talking about, and which is is the one it didn't have it anymore <cjohnston> Headed back home. :-( <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: let me doublecheck <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ok cool, we'll try to see if it was a packaging error :) <test123> itnet7: test <itnet7> I can't find the same stuff I was seeing <itnet7> notify.pl loaded, but my notifications are not forwarding through X <crashsystems> hello florida <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: so it's prolly something with the packaging <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: if you were to type: /unload perl, then try to /LOAD perl you will get the following error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/527882/ <itnet7> When I tried to compile irssi myself and point it to by perl libraries it would not let me compile in perl support <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: seems like a known bug <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: and a packging error probably <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639260 <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but according to what I'm reading it says that you can unload perl, but you can't reload it <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but if you could give me the versions of the packages would be easier to investigate <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Unfortunately I don't have any thing running the previous versions, let me check it out in a bit, I am going through my e-mail and getting caught up a bit <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ok if you remember the version you had before and which version you upadted to that thad the problem would be useful #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-08 <Chloric> evening guys <itnet7> Hey there Chloric ! <Chloric> hows it going? <Chloric> i was just reading and nVidia isnt going to support wayland <itnet7> Wow? Gotta link directly from Nvidia??? or are you going by hearsay? <Chloric> direct <itnet7> I was thinking that you would share the link ;-P <Chloric> i will <itnet7> ah <Chloric> let me get it <Chloric> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=99209e23a1013723450a623f49d4c1dd&p=2343452&postcount=11 <Chloric> sorry, i was browsing my history <itnet7> cool <Chloric> that kinda sucks since shutterworth wants to move to Wayland for 11.10 i believe <itnet7> it's still only a forum post <itnet7> and one employee responding <itnet7> Shuttleworth <Chloric> true, but its an nVidia rep <Chloric> in response to shutterworth <itnet7> He still can't speak for all of Nvidia, and probably doesn't know of any discussions taking place between Canonical and Nvidia that are bound by NDA's <Chloric> oh, thats true <itnet7> I wouldn't worry too much until wayland is here <itnet7> and your card doesn't work any longer <Chloric> anything but x.org <itnet7> I personally will stop buying nvidia cards if that happens, as well as recommending them to everyone that will listen <Chloric> and yeah, so far the cards are working well <Chloric> plus, thats over a year from now, right? <itnet7> yes, I am sure it will be at least that long before we begin seeing it <itnet7> except in daily builds or other specific images <itnet7> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 <Chloric> i dont think there will be daily builds until after 11.04 <Chloric> awesome <Chloric> when will the broadcom drivers going open source? <itnet7> some of them are: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/ <itnet7> they are not going to release the drivers for Older Cards, just the three mentioned there and the cards in the future, AFAIK <Chloric> have those drivers become better then the non-open drivers? <itnet7> Not sure, I would I would think that they would be, but haven't really been following any of the testing, etc. <Chloric> ah, thats cool. i guess i should try them one day <Chloric> im looking for the channel log <Chloric> just realized, since they're open source, they could be included in the disrto ISO, could it not? <Chloric> so they're installed during a clean install <mhall119> Chloric: once they're available and stable, I'd imagine they will be in most every distro <mhall119> in fact, they'll probably be in the mainline kernel <Chloric> thats awesome <Chloric> out of the box driver support for wireless devices is something that is needed <mhall119> it's been working great for me for the past several releases <tiemonster> zoopster: ping <zoopster> yo <zoopster> wassup tiemonster <tiemonster> have you heard anything about including MariaDB in the Ubuntu repos? <tiemonster> After the stunt that Oracle just pulled, it's becoming clear that a replacement for MySQL needs to be found soon <zoopster> so they tried really hard for the maverick cycle and it failed to build miserably <tiemonster> I was worried about that <zoopster> there were feature freeze exceptions all the way up to the first beta and then we gave up <tiemonster> they're hosting on Launchpad now, right? <tiemonster> I imagine they're in the works with automated testing like they have for MySQL <zoopster> i think so...there are ppa's, but there is a requirement to build from source <zoopster> spamaps in the #ubuntu-server channel is close to it <zoopster> have you looked at drizzle? <zoopster> and postgres is still strong <tiemonster> another alternative, I assume? <zoopster> yea...that was the original fork when sun bought mysql I believe <tiemonster> investigating PostgreSQL, but MariaDB is supposed to be a "drop-in replacement for MySQL" <zoopster> true...postgres is more of a replacement for oracle <tiemonster> MariaDB would be less work to migrate <zoopster> expect it "in" the distribution for natty...but the ppa's work just as well <tiemonster> cool. thanks. <tiemonster> zoopster: it will be interesting to see what Ubuntu includes in that lamp-server^ metapackage in the future <zoopster> true...for natty things are not changing AFAIK...we'll see what happens <tiemonster> yep <tiemonster> zoopster: do you know if the Ubuntu repos have any good graphical clients for PostgreSQL? <zoopster> I'm sure there are but I don't know of them...I'd look at what enterprise db offers...I think they have a foss version <tiemonster> thanks <mhall119> tiemonster: pgadmin is the only GUI tool I know of for postres <reya276> Morning everyone <dorgan> will using ionice & nice cause the load average on a box to rise? <mhall119> it shouldn't that's just priority <mhall119> woohoo, finally got my new work computer <chaynie_work> Hola Ninjas. * chaynie_work has a weird server question <MichelleQ1> I'm sure someone has a weird server answer <chaynie_work> I have a hard drive that shows up in the bios as a single drive, but shows up to windows/linux as two physical devices. <chaynie_work> how do I tell it to stop being stupid and act like a normal, useful harddrive? <maxolasersquad> chaynie_work: And it is not one hard drive with two partitions? <maxolasersquad> Or, is it an external drive plugged? <chaynie_work> maxolasersquad: i think it is, internally. but it's somehow being presented to the system as both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb <maxolasersquad> Many external drives, especially 1TB drives, are two physical hard drives. Perhaps that's what you are running into? <maxolasersquad> Though, IME, they still show up in BIOS and in /dev as one drive. <chaynie_work> it's a western digital, and it's showing up as some 6gb rom drive. <mhall119> ROM? <chaynie_work> mhall119: rom. <mhall119> that's a lot of rom <govatent> RoAkSoAx, ping <RoAkSoAx> govatent: pong <govatent> hey te puedo mandar un pm? <RoAkSoAx> govatent: go ahead no tienes que pedirme permiso... lol <govatent> Chloric, ping <Chloric> i was out with my girlfriend skating, sorry bro <Chloric> so whats up? whats the Cisco meeting tomorrow? <Chat6761> hey <Chat6761> hey <Chloric> hello <Chat6761> 28 m orlando <Chloric> wrong IRC channel bro <Chloric> this is an Ubuntu OS IRC channel <Chloric> hook up IRCs are else where <Chloric> ubuntu isnt soe kinky word <Chloric> lol <dorgan> hello all <dorgan> mhall119: ping <Chloric> hello there <govatent> lmao <govatent> Chloric, yo <Chloric> hey there <govatent> ok so about tomorrow <Chloric> yes <govatent> i guess ill be leaving my place earlier than 7 <govatent> like 6 or 630 <govatent> i was planning on finding some place to split with my friends on parking <Chloric> if its at 8:30 or so <govatent> well the talks dont start till like 9 <Chloric> traffic into downtown sucks <Chloric> oh then <govatent> i can show you the itinerary i got from cisco <Chloric> perhaps 7 is good <Chloric> also, have you even checked with the hotel? <Chloric> maybe they have parking there <itnet7> ? <govatent> itnet7, cisco is having a neat show in miami tomorrow <Chloric> maybe the have public parking at the hotel for visitors <itnet7> Oh, cool! <govatent> i am not worried about the pricing of parking as i can split it with 3 people or likely my friend will just pay it for me to be kind for the ride <govatent> http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_39 <Chloric> just tell them youre with the cisco event <govatent> i know we are effy with our relationship with cisco but still cool to attend and its free <itnet7> effy? <RoAkSoAx> but cisco is the best for networking equipment <RoAkSoAx> there's no question about that <govatent> proprietary world <itnet7> cisco runs a modified version of linux for their ios <govatent> to some extend i guess <RoAkSoAx> for me it is either work in linux, or work as a cisco integrator :) <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it is indeed linux <govatent> ok then sweet! <RoAkSoAx> but i mean from the networking point of view <itnet7> Oh, my I think my notifications are working again <RoAkSoAx> it is the best of the best <itnet7> dm me please? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: really? <itnet7> Yes <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: tes tes test test test <itnet7> weird <itnet7> it <RoAkSoAx> itnet <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: <itnet7> is definitely working <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: <itnet7> oh, and their stacking #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-11-09 <itnet7> and the PM too <itnet7> wierd <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: cool what's the script again? <itnet7> let me see which one I'm using <RoAkSoAx> ok <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but it is remotely right? <itnet7> yes, I'm ssh'd into my server and attached to a byobu/screen/irssi session <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: cool... pass me the script!! <RoAkSoAx> :) <itnet7> will do trying to narrow down if I added it to auto load, as I just rebooted the machine <itnet7> ran byobu, screen, irrsi <itnet7> and it just worked <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it probably is that bug that only loads static modules when starting irssi <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: pass the script to test it out :) <itnet7> trying to remember the dcc comman <itnet7> d <govatent> i need to get irssi setup on my nslu2 one of these days <itnet7> I can send it to you through e-mail <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: sure ;) * RoAkSoAx really needs a notification script through ssh <Chloric> BRB, just text me govatent <Chloric> gonna go to tiger reall quick <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/528440 in a file called notify.pl <itnet7> and it's added to the autorun folder, not where it says at the beginning of the script <itnet7> my nicklist is finally working too <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: then it is because of that bug <govatent> hey itnet7 i got an idea <govatent> it might be doable and useful <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: yeah <itnet7> govatent: ? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: brb <govatent> can you make notifications send an email to which you can make it sms your phone so you know when someone is looking for you ? <itnet7> govatent: I am sure you can <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test <govatent> such as with tmobile i can sms my phone by sending an email to acolon@example.com <govatent> hum.... <govatent> i want to try this <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing, doers it need to be executable ? yes right? <govatent> do you think irssi would be a hog on the cpu of the nslu2? <itnet7> pretty sure let me doublecheck <itnet7> Yeah, it's marked executable <itnet7> govatent: I doubt it would a hog on anything <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test2 <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing, but got this though: 19:12 /bin/sh: notify-send: not found <RoAkSoAx> what's the package that includes that binary? <itnet7> I forgot the command in irssi to see running scripts <govatent> i installed irssi on my box now its time to learn to use it <itnet7> libnotify-bin? <RoAkSoAx> yesy <itnet7> it's working?? <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: testing 1,23 <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing now and error from dbus, so the server needs to have desktop? <RoAkSoAx> or X11? <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Yeah, unfortunately <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: oh... that;s why then it wont work <RoAkSoAx> so I'm running a VPS here so it is useless to have a desktop <itnet7> yeah <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: so how does this works?? with ssh sends a message through dbus? <itnet7> Yes, but it uses x forwarding, and uses your accounts .xauthority to allow it <RoAkSoAx> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh <itnet7> You may not need a full desktop <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: i wonder how can we forward a command through SSH <itnet7> So, like, have it still use the notify-osd on the desktop your accessing the screen session remotely without forwarding X itself? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: oh do I need to use port forwarding?? -X ? <itnet7> That is what I'm using <itnet7> -X <RoAkSoAx> lol <RoAkSoAx> let's see <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but got this error: libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. <RoAkSoAx> brbr <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: any better? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: same error <itnet7> ah... hold on I'm checking some stuff too <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it's prolly something with Xen <RoAkSoAx> let me reboot <RoAkSoAx> vps <itnet7> cool <govatent> does anyone actually use lynx these days? i do just seeing if i am the only one <jtatum> no way govatent. elinks all the way <itnet7> lol <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: same error.. dbus error.. so it is either because there's no desktop or because there's a bug in dbus <RoAkSoAx> or even prolly with <RoAkSoAx> Xern <RoAkSoAx> Xen Vm's <itnet7> different, but similar issue: http://code.google.com/p/acpi-eeepc-generic/issues/detail?id=47 <govatent> elinks? <jtatum> it's like lynx but supports javascript, frames, tabs and css <govatent> cool <govatent> installing it right now <itnet7> besides links2 is better than standard links govatent ! <itnet7> shows images as well as txt <itnet7> thanks jtatum gonna check out elinks... possibly that will allow me to administrate my router <itnet7> from cli <itnet7> :-) <jtatum> cool :) hope so <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: yea well it is gdm related apparently <itnet7> I know that I had an issue when first trying to do it, when I would try and ssh as a different user than what I had started the session with <govatent> i got 2 new users switched to ubuntu this weekend <govatent> and they are so happy <govatent> their old pcs work 100 times better speed wise with firefox and the other apps they used <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: is theis what you used to use? https://wiki.koumbit.net/Irssi <itnet7> govatent: did you ever get that one guys machine working with the ATI sli? <govatent> nope <govatent> he is still on windows <itnet7> Did he try removing one of the cards? <govatent> not yet <govatent> have not talked to him yet <govatent> he has a massive case and those cards are a pain to deal with because they are huge <dorgan> chaynie_work: ping <govatent> i have another pending problem with 10.10 on a laptop sitting in my house for a friend and an intel card <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: prolly ill take a look at it later <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: u did that? <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: No, but after reading it, I thought it may work for you without a desktop <dorgan> mhall119: you around? <mhall119> yep <itnet7> and it's kind of a current article <govatent> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) <govatent> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) <govatent> any word on this card with 10.10 <govatent> its from a dell laptop <itnet7> This setup is also cool: https://wiki.koumbit.net/ScyrmAa/IrssiProxy <govatent> other than the gpu everything works fine <itnet7> govatent: not sure what you're asking <itnet7> jinjianxin: hey there! <mhall119> dorgan: pong <itnet7> you mean 3d for that card? <govatent> i cant seem to make it work right. its suck at 800x600 and i think all video acceleration does not work <dorgan> mhall119: I know you said you werent going to Sencha Conf...but someone else from this channel said they may be going....do you remember who? <mhall119> um, you <dorgan> there was someone else....lol <mhall119> I don't remember anyone else <dorgan> I said I was def going...but someone else said they might be going <dorgan> ahh ok <mhall119> dantalizing maybe? <itnet7> govatent: you can try this: http://tinyurl.com/2esvnb8 <mhall119> though I think he's going to be out of country then <govatent> thank you itnet7 ill try that right away tonight <govatent> i only tried google for a few seconds <dorgan> yeah maybe that was it <dorgan> dantalizing: you around? <itnet7> There is a part there where you set resolutions, be careful not to put any that are too high for the laptop <govatent> will do <itnet7> otherwise you'll suffer like the last guy <itnet7> it's fixable, but it will be a pain in the keister <govatent> lol <dorgan> itnet7: doesnt the latest version default to an default X config if display is messed up now? <dorgan> and you can rest the settings? <Spreadsheet_> Hello <itnet7> dorgan: apparently not for every video card/mode. The last guys comments kind of point to that not being the case <Chloric> back <itnet7> hey there Spreadsheet_ <dorgan> ahh <Spreadsheet_> I'm moving to FL <itnet7> I thought they would too <itnet7> Sweet! Spreadsheet_ <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: \o/ where from? <Spreadsheet_> So I want to know if any of you know of a good ISP that lets you host servers <mhall119> and to where <Spreadsheet_> Around Ft. Lauderdale <Spreadsheet_> From Indiana to Ft. Lauderdale <govatent> hey Spreadsheet_ <itnet7> Oh, cool! <Chloric> wow, thats close <govatent> welcome!!! <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: you mean co-located hosting? <govatent> my side of town <MichelleQ1> welcome to florida, Spreadsheet_! <Spreadsheet_> Thanks for the welcome <Spreadsheet_> mhall119: most ISPs block incoming connections to your own computer <Spreadsheet_> If I were to host a server, I would want to have my own computer be the server <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: oh, I understand now <govatent> and no. most home grade isps here dont allow hosting unless its your personal server they have it against tos. comcast or att are the only options as far as i know in my area <mhall119> the major ISPs will allow it if you purchase a "business" service <govatent> but with the isps in fort laduerdale none block incoming incoming connections <govatent> they dont take kindly though to massive bandwidth on the uploads <govatent> unless you get a business grade plan <Spreadsheet_> Ok <mhall119> most residential service has terrible upload bandwidth too <govatent> not really kind of <Spreadsheet_> What about Speakeasy? Has anyone tried that? <govatent> comcast offers up to 10 mbps i think <mhall119> business service gives you symetric bandwidth and usually some service guarantees <Spreadsheet_> I haven't heard good things about either comcast or att so I will try to avoid those <govatent> not really <govatent> at least cable/dsl business that i know of <govatent> if anything comcast has nicer bandwitdh if it comes down to it <govatent> you can get up to 50 / 20 <Spreadsheet_> I think comcast has some kind of cap <govatent> its 250 <govatent> per month on the downloads <Chloric> Do you have Atlantic up in broward? <govatent> dont think they did anything about uploads yet anyways <govatent> nope <Chloric> theyre a good ISP down here <govatent> in broward its mostly comcast/att or advanced cable which is the worst hell hole of an isp ever <govatent> avoid any area in which advanced cable is the cable owner <govatent> unless you like crappy service and low bandwidth <Spreadsheet_> I also need it to be bittorrent friendlt <govatent> att is semi bt friendly i think <Spreadsheet_> Are there other LUG in FL? <govatent> yup <Spreadsheet_> Are they as big as this one? Are they active/hold installfests? <govatent> when you get to fort lauderdale you can hit me up. i live in the area <govatent> i think they are <govatent> i mostly stay here <Chloric> i dont have any issues with BT and ATT... i have issues with their speeds <govatent> lol <govatent> comcast offers amazing speed compared to what we can get here <govatent> and sorry its 50/10 with comcast <govatent> but its 100 bucks a month <govatent> i pay 42 for 15/3 <Chloric> what happened to the 100mps down that comcast has now? the Exfinity thig <Spreadsheet_> Hmm oh well <govatent> its only in certain areas <govatent> exfinity is just a branding thing <govatent> still crummy comcast <Spreadsheet_> Does dial-up allow you to have incoming connections? ;) <govatent> lol <govatent> can you use speakeasy dsl on areas owned by att? <govatent> i was never clear on if i could <govatent> i thought i was forced between att or comcast here in fort lauderdale <govatent> for home service anyways <govatent> what service do you use where your at Spreadsheet_ <Spreadsheet_> A local one <govatent> i wish <Spreadsheet_> The other choices are the same... <Spreadsheet_> A comcast owned company, time warner, att <govatent> we dont have any locals options here that i know of <Spreadsheet_> Still, they don't allow incoming connections <govatent> i know comcast/att home service does allow incoming <govatent> but is it for your personal use or a public site with heavy traffic? <govatent> like i host all sorts of stuff from home <govatent> i pick comcast cause they have more down bandwidth <Chloric> I GOT MY BELOVED UBUNTU BACK!!!! <govatent> i have never reached the 250 gb cap <govatent> but everyone to their own i guess <Chloric> i love you govatent <govatent> lol <govatent> i love me too <govatent> i am mad at you <Spreadsheet_> I mean comcast sounds great to me. They have a rather big cap (I would never reach that cap), and they allow incoming connections. <govatent> not the option i wanted <Spreadsheet_> But they are anti-bt and service is terrible <govatent> att currently does not provide anything on dsl past 6 unless you go uverse. but do your self the favor and avoid uverse altogether <govatent> comcast for home service is the lesser of the evil i feel <Chloric> lmao. i took the lazy way out :p but now i have two wireless cards in my computer. i could play with that and have a little fun with it <govatent> how much bw do you get for what price with ur local isp? <Chloric> what do you mean not past 6? 6mbs? or 6gb cap? <govatent> 6 mpbs <Chloric> oh <Chloric> ok <Chloric> lol <Chloric> i did 10GB on the weekend * itnet7 changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-fl to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Florida Local Community IRC Chat !! || Next Team Meeting: Tuesday, November 16th, 8:00 pm EST || Please add your discussion items and Ideas to our Meeting Agenda located here: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-fl-agenda || http://www.ubuntu-fl.org <govatent> Spreadsheet_, how much bandwidth do you get for what price and is it bt friendly and allow incoming connections? <Spreadsheet_> govatent: I'm not sure <Spreadsheet_> I think it's BT friendly, around $30 a month <Spreadsheet_> No incoming connections <govatent> oh <Spreadsheet_> Not sure of bandwidth <govatent> well just hearing no incoming makes me go away lol <Spreadsheet_> Are there many startups in florida? <MichelleQ1> what sort? * MichelleQ1 resumes paying attention <Spreadsheet_> Web startups <Spreadsheet_> The Silicon Valley types <itnet7> I would have to say there are a fair share <govatent> i could agree <govatent> whens your big move? <Spreadsheet_> December <govatent> in time for florida winter lol <Chloric> whats florida winter? i dont understand this... concept <govatent> how it does not get cold like in other north states <itnet7> intersil for example, they designed the wifi Hopefully you will arrive on the one or two days a year it's actually cold to feel it <Chloric> its the beginning of november and it was 75 today. it was nice <govatent> yea thats florida winter <govatent> its not really cold. but most people run around like its snowing <govatent> me being one of them <Chloric> lol <itnet7> Chloric: did you notice my pm? it's about the wiki <Chloric> i never dress different from summer or winter. no matter, im still outside in black skating and running about (sometimes with flannel) <itnet7> lol <MichelleQ1> haha, you'll like winters... unless you're fond of snow, in which case you'll hate it. <Chloric> BRB <Chloric> switching machines <Bryanstein> itnet7, <itnet7> Hey there Bryanstein ! <govatent> hi Bryanstein * Bryanstein wipes his nose with Chloric 's shirt <itnet7> rofl <govatent> lmao <Chloric> O_O <govatent> hahahaha <Bryanstein> govatent, hey buddy...I see you made it back <govatent> yup <govatent> no tickets on the way down either <govatent> :p <Bryanstein> NICE <govatent> how are you? <Chloric> *changing shirt* <Bryanstein> itnet7, and I saw your tire marks in the toll booth <Bryanstein> hehehe <itnet7> lol <govatent> lmao the way the cop made it seem i bet you did <Chloric> xD <Bryanstein> govatent, great...just got back from compusa <govatent> sweet! <govatent> they have a compusa up there? <Bryanstein> yes we have errrr 4 here <Chloric> i think it was the pot govatent <Bryanstein> maybe more <itnet7> Bryanstein: I was going to put up that picture of you, me, and Paolo hanging poolside <govatent> i have the motherload. tigerdirect store :p <govatent> actually that would be Chloric yard <Bryanstein> itnet7, did I have my shirt off? <govatent> i was in miami today. scary place i get lost <itnet7> What Florida needs, is a Frye's!!! <itnet7> no Bryanstein ! <govatent> Bryanstein, http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_39 <govatent> i am going to that tomorrow in miami <Bryanstein> itnet7, then don't show it...if you show the shirtless Bryanstein pic you get slashdotted defacto <Bryanstein> govatent, so what do you expect to see there? <Bryanstein> I got 2 wireless keyboards <Bryanstein> sad thing though...they are M$...I'll have to hack some Linux stickers to put over em <Bryanstein> they were 11.99 a piece <Bryanstein> the keyboard alone is 39.99...I got kb and mouse <itnet7> I think the video pop-locking will get us slashdotted! <Bryanstein> lol not if Daniel "THE WORM" posts his first <govatent> i dont know. should be interesting non the less <Bryanstein> it was like tremors in 3D <itnet7> lol <itnet7> I better work on them <Bryanstein> govatent, the place will be crawling with metrosexual IT guys <govatent> lol <Bryanstein> lol serious...it's like geeks have gone glam nowadays <Bryanstein> itnet7, does Daniel frequent this channel? <itnet7> Bryanstein: he is Lupine ! <itnet7> He is usually lurking about <Bryanstein> ahhh...I have some wolf stuff he might be interested in Free.99 <itnet7> cool!!! brb <Bryanstein> What kind of toy(s) can I get for right at $200 <Chloric> i need help, anyone wanna help :p * Bryanstein hides <Bryanstein> Chloric, with what? <Chloric> my dads (probably 2003) dell just failed <Bryanstein> failed as in? <Chloric> i need to get that info... but Xubuntu isnt detecting the hard drive <Chloric> and only gparted detects it <Chloric> but i cant access it <Chloric> (motherboard is failing, hard drive is failing, usb ports are on and off) <Bryanstein> ohhhh <Bryanstein> pfff run testdisk <Bryanstein> you'll get it all back <Chloric> i dont want to salvage it... i just need to access that and grab it... its kinda worth millions... <Bryanstein> knoppix with testdisk...done deal <Chloric> thanks... i'll see if that work <Bryanstein> it should...just figure on something and stick with it...don't try accessing it too much <Chloric> wait though, i dont need to fix it. i just need to access it. and gpart see it <Bryanstein> I gotcha...you can cp all the files with testdisk <RoAkSoAx> .win 2 <Chloric> ok, thanks <Chloric> .win 2? <Bryanstein> .lin 1 ? <itnet7> He was switching windows in irssi <itnet7> probably <Bryanstein> i thought it was / <Bryanstein> not . <itnet7> one key over <itnet7> easy to do <itnet7> especially on a netbook * Bryanstein never owned a netbook <Bryanstein> itnet7, you know about my trials with free netbooks so how dare you <itnet7> lol * Bryanstein cries <itnet7> *hugs* Bryanstein <itnet7> It will get better, I promise <Bryanstein> LOL I hope man...I gotta get something soon <MichelleQ1> y'all are too much. :-P <Bryanstein> MichelleQ1, it's something in the Florida water <Bryanstein> itnet7, also...Ubuntu on plugs only goes up to 9.04 <Bryanstein> so if that it fine with you...I plan to send you and Daniel a package...plug included <MichelleQ1> Bryanstein: yes, yes it is. <itnet7> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MaverickReleaseNotes <itnet7> Seems to work in Maverick, with a little extra TLC <Bryanstein> Is that MichelleQ1 as in Michelle Hall with the super hugs? <Bryanstein> itnet7, nope...that's arm7 <Bryanstein> not support for arm5 since 9.04 <itnet7> Oh! <Bryanstein> Yes I know...it's like whatttt <govatent> i look away for 5 seconds and now i have to read a log. you talkative folks <Bryanstein> govatent, yes we talked bad about you behind your back...and we'll say more if you don't get that sangoma u100 working <itnet7> lol <Bryanstein> any word on your pandaboard? <govatent> good question <Bryanstein> some guys already have theirs <Bryanstein> early adopters that is <Bryanstein> Oh I need help too... <itnet7> No, I need to follow up on that <govatent> i actually have one better than the sangoma. which is current up in md <Bryanstein> say I had $200 what could/should I get ? <Bryanstein> govatent, and what is that? <govatent> looking for the model but its pci based <Bryanstein> pfff you lose <Bryanstein> lol...I have tons of pci digium cards <Bryanstein> only 2 analog...need 1? <Bryanstein> I can give you a digital card <Bryanstein> but you'd need something like a t1/t3 pri to use it <itnet7> Bryanstein: I may be able to score you a decent netbook for 200 bucks <Bryanstein> itnet7, can I install OS2 on it? <itnet7> ? <Bryanstein> lol <itnet7> rofl <Chloric> so govatent, wanna chill after the cisco event? <itnet7> I am sure you can do anything you set your mind to <Bryanstein> No serious...what netbook do you speak of wise man? <itnet7> I will ask chuck tomorrow he was trying to sell one <MichelleQ1> Bryanstein: yep, that's me <MichelleQ1> :D <govatent> not sure if ill be able to cause the one guy i am bringing with me and matt * Bryanstein smiles back at MichelleQ1 <MichelleQ1> how are ya, dude? <Bryanstein> itnet7, is it Chuck or Daniel with freerunner? <itnet7> chuck <Bryanstein> MichelleQ1, I'm great...probably colder than the rest of you guys <itnet7> I am sure he'll sell that too <govatent> its actually not mine its the schools <Bryanstein> tell him to throw it in and I'll take em both for 200 <Bryanstein> I'll paypal him the money NOW <Bryanstein> hehehe <itnet7> I will ask him tomorrow <itnet7> :-) <itnet7> can't hurt to ask <govatent> opensolaris much? <govatent> off topic i know <Bryanstein> lol really...also wake up Lupine so I can hook em up with some wolf apparel <itnet7> He would have answered if he were around <itnet7> but I can tell him at work tomorrow also <itnet7> :-) <MichelleQ1> oh, who's paypaling money around? * MichelleQ1 lines up for that deal <Bryanstein> lol MichelleQ1 <Bryanstein> you've gotta have some ridiculous hardware you're looking to give away for little or nothing to get into the paypal line <itnet7> lol <govatent> i have a nslu2 :p <Bryanstein> govatent, you need to get into the "please bring back the telegraph" line <itnet7> ROFL <Chloric> i miss the telegraph =( <Chloric> lol stupid boy scouts forced us to learn morse code <govatent> i want ext4 on my device <Bryanstein> Chloric, they really screwed up with it...they should have made a BIG announcement then charged like 5 dollars per transmission <Bryanstein> they would
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