#kubuntu 2005-06-01 <Tm_T> smouche: you mostly need to change colours, so just value game it is <Mez> it's official <Mez> kubuntu is sexy <Tm_T> so am I <Tm_T> ...no I'm not <firasR> smouche: much appreciated :) <smouche> have fun, firasR <Tm_T> =) <Tm_T> smouche: hmm, same time next year there is only irssi users? ;p <Tm_T> s/there/here <smouche> hah hah, probably! <Tm_T> =) <smouche> ok, someone needs to create the IrssiDesktop DE. <Tm_T> haha <smouche> alright, Tm_T, I'm gonna take a nap, then later on I'm gonna probably break some stuff on this box; it's running to smoothly lately <smouche> "too" smoothly; and I want to install Suse on another box; see you later... <Tm_T> smouche: ok, see ya o/ <firasR> thanks smouche <firasR> Tm_T: how in the world do i paste into eterm ? <uniq> 3rd mousebutton. <uniq> or shift+insert <firasR> thanks <Mez> hmm <Mez> why when you click a file does it load in kate and when you edit as root it loads in kwrite <Mez> weird <Tm_T> firasR: just like in every other place, 3rd mousebutton ;) <smouche_sleep> (or shift-insert, firasR) <firasR> got it, thanks all <othernoob> how do i remove some kernels ? <Tm_T> apt-get remove ? <Pupeno> What's the Ubuntu/Debian to install Products on a Zope instance ? <othernoob> Tm_T okay. wasn't too sure if it's the same way with kernels <firasR> Tm_T: i'm startin' to warm to irsii :) need to read up on the docs though <Riddell> Pupeno: apt-cache search zope <Riddell> lots there <Pupeno> Riddell: mh ? that install a product on the system, not on a zope instance. <Riddell> Pupeno: well I've never used zope but if you install it by apt-get it looks like there's other zope bits you can install as well <Riddell> Pupeno: but if you installed it youself then you're on your own <Pupeno> Riddell: I installed the products from the repository, but that's only to get the files on the filesystem, it doesn't install the products on any instance of zope. <Riddell> Pupeno: ah well, I've run out of zope knowledge I'm afraid <Pupeno> Riddell: ok, thank you. <Tm_T> heh <Tm_T> firasR: well, it's easiest to use when you start to know how to use it ;) <firasR> reminds of the old days in the early 90s when i first used text irc clients :) <Tm_T> heh <Tm_T> well, you'll find out that you really don't need gui <firasR> Tm_T: i was lookin' for a text client anyways, u can do more with shortcut keys and they look cooler <firasR> firasR: esepecially with eterm ;) hehe <Tm_T> well <rzei> hey is there going to be an upgrade to kopete before kde3.4.1? <rzei> there is a rather critical bug which doesn't allow logging into msn messenger service <rzei> but as noted in the kopete.kde.org, there's already a patch applied both to HEAD and MAIN <transgress> rzei: yeah it is in hoary updates <transgress> i have it * transgress is connected to msn right now <rzei> hmm strange i just added that deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main into /etc/apt/sources.list and did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade <transgress> it's in the ubuntu repo's <rzei> so.. what should i have in my sources.list then? <transgress> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted <transgress> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted <transgress> i'd imagine those should do it <rzei> adding those then <transgress> they should be in there by default <rzei> actually those were commented out, result of me using this same installition from the 5.04 preview <Tm_T> haha <transgress> woot... you're gonna have a few updates then <rzei> 15 only actually <transgress> hmm <rzei> already downloaded, unpacking <rzei> setting up <rzei> done :) <transgress> i always liked big updates... made me feel like i was doing something * ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Congratlation uniq on membership | Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php <uniq> thanks :) * ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Congratulations uniq on membership | Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php <Riddell> better <KoseFrank> Hi... <KoseFrank> Anyone still up? <Tm_T> yup <KoseFrank> Goodie gumdrops... <KoseFrank> I have a question... I am running Kubuntu <KoseFrank> And I want Gaim, but cannot find it in the package program <KoseFrank> (I am a newbie, but managed to install a wlan-card using ndiswrapper, so I'm pretty proud) <frank> which package program are you using? synaptic? <KoseFrank> kynaptic <KoseFrank> I guess that's the kde-version of the synaptic-program <frank> just do search for gaim <KoseFrank> i did <frank> im not sure why you wouldn't see it... try installing synaptic and use that instead. It's much better <KoseFrank> Is there a way I can connect to a remote package-ftp or something? I remembered when I was using Ubuntu, I managed to install all these programs without any hassle. The problem was that the system went unstable, and everything crashed. But this seems stable enough... It even plays mp3's (wow!) <KoseFrank> Ok... How do I do that? <frank> KoseFrank, do a search for synaptic in kynaptic <KoseFrank> Sorry if I'm asking lame questions, but the stupid Kopete doesn't seem to support msn any more <KoseFrank> I did. It didn't find it <frank> it need to be updated <Tm_T> KoseFrank: use autopackage from gaim site <frank> hoary-updates has the update <frank> KoseFrank, I think you can do that through synaptic as well <KoseFrank> Hoary updates? Ok. I didn't have a network avaiable when I installed... Is that why it doesn't seem to know it can be updated??? <Tm_T> ehm, I'll go to sleep -> <frank> KoseFrank, check your apt sources list: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list <frank> KoseFrank, to check if the right repositories are there <KoseFrank> gedit - command not found <frank> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list <Riddell> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list <frank> forgot you use kubuntu <KoseFrank> Ahhh <Riddell> don't sudo kate, she doesn't like it <KoseFrank> It seemed so... <KoseFrank> It said she probably krashed <KoseFrank> But nano worked <frank> oh <KoseFrank> Shall i remove the # ? <frank> yeah make sure you have universe, multiverse and hoary-security and hoary-update available <KoseFrank> Do you recommend using the "universe respository" or will that just f"# things up? <frank> I haven't had problems with universe. And in synaptic, you can tell which packages are from universe <KoseFrank> Ahhh <incubii> everyone has problems with the universe <incubii> its ever expanding <incubii> :P <KoseFrank> It seems to work better now, yes <frank> did you install synaptic? <KoseFrank> Do I need it... It seems to update kynaptic... <brosio> mm dma is disable on both dvd and dvdrecorder... anyone could help ? <frank> KoseFrank, I just find synaptic is better (alot better) <KoseFrank> And it seems that Gaim is up and running.... =) <frank> did you update everything? <frank> brosio, edit /etc/hdparm.conf <KoseFrank> I belive I did <frank> great <KoseFrank> Yeah =) <KoseFrank> I installed synaptics too... <KoseFrank> I belive i can start to like this distro <KoseFrank> Thanks, btw... <frank> np <KoseFrank> Nice name your parents gave you, btw <frank> you too, lol <KoseFrank> We must be the lucky ones <KoseFrank> Ahhh <KoseFrank> i found supertux <KoseFrank> One reason why I liked Mandrake <KoseFrank> Hmmm... The shortcuts doesnt seem to automatically add themselves <dangermouse> Greetings, my tasty friends! <frank> KoseFrank, sometimes they don't <frank> like supertux <KoseFrank> I noticed <KoseFrank> And firefox? <frank> I have shortcuts for firefox <KoseFrank> Hmmm.. I'll try to install one in my native language <KoseFrank> To see what happens <KoseFrank> Aaaah... Lovely <KoseFrank> It works <KoseFrank> HAha. This was FUN <KoseFrank> Ok... Thank's a lot <KoseFrank> I've gotta go to bed <KoseFrank> But... Yeah. This works. =) <KoseFrank> That's nice <daniels> Riddell: done * mode/#kubuntu [-o Riddell] by ChanServ * mode/#kubuntu [+o Riddell] by ChanServ <Riddell> groovy * mode/#kubuntu [-o Riddell] by ChanServ <Tm_T> erh <Tm_T> hey, where's smouche? <Tm_T> ah, /lastlog saves =) <frank> where can I set up applications to start when I log on to kde? <Tm_T> just add link to ~/.kde/Autostart <frank> Tm_T, ok thanks <Tm_T> np <SlicerDicer> I lost 90% of everything in kicker when I added kdeartwork and kdegames any ideas? <SlicerDicer> applet failures etc <frank> anyone have this display problem? in kate for example, the line I am writing is black <frank> I can't see it <frank> similar problem happens in ark too <Tm_T> smouche_sleep: ! <Tm_T> frank: eh, nice ;) <Tm_T> frank: can you take a pic? <smouche> hello again <frank> how? <Tm_T> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/pre2/24580-2.jpg <Tm_T> whyyy!!!?? <Tm_T> =) <Tm_T> frank: well, one way is to use KSnapshot <Tm_T> smouche: wanna try my shouter? <smouche> sure, Tm_T, though I don't even know what a shouter is exactly! <smouche> (if if involves sounds though, I don't have mine on) <smouche> heh heh <smouche> what's a shouter? <Tm_T> smouche: amaroK shoutcast script <Tm_T> so all you have to do is listen ;) <smouche> ah, cool. What does it do? <smouche> ok <smouche> hit me <Tm_T> +1-473-444-0812:8000/amarok <frank> Tm_T, i made a snapshot <smouche> so, Tm_T, would that work in streamtuner too? <Tm_T> I think so <_dangermouse> wow. <Tm_T> hmm <_dangermouse> been at 10mins left on battery for the past hour <Tm_T> smouche: I just click and my amaroK shoutcasts what I listen :) <Tm_T> smouche: too easy? maybe :p <Tm_T> frank: ok, I'll check if I get something <Tm_T> frank: hmm, looks like it have something to do with colour settings ;) <smouche> hmmm, can't get it to work in streamtuner, Tm_t <frank> yeah the lines should be bluish but I have no idea where to fix it <Tm_T> frank: heh, kcontrol -> appearance -> colours -> <Tm_T> alternate background in lists <Tm_T> yup, just change it <Tm_T> smouche: hmm, but you're listening? <smouche> nope, Tm_T, how do I play that? <smouche> I tried opening +1-473-444-0812:8000/amarok in amarok, and streamtuner <smouche> and I tried it with "http://+1-473-444-0812:8000/amarok" <smouche> what am I doing wrong? <Tm_T> smouche: hmm, try xmms <Tm_T> dunno really <Tm_T> but looks like someone from nyc is connected <smouche> wait, I think I need to kill artsd first; I was listening to the radio before... <Tm_T> ah ok <frank> Tm_T, It workeD!!! I have no idea how I could have changed that! <Tm_T> frank: ah good <frank> Tm_T, Thanks so much <Tm_T> np :) <smouche> well, Tm_T, amaroK tells me it's connecting to stream source and says it's playing, but no sound so far <Tm_T> eh <frank> Tm_T, do you use amd64? <Tm_T> hmm, 32 <Tm_T> hmm, maybe I should make new background (again) <smouche> hey Tm_T: <smouche> Couldn't connect to host +1-473-444-0812 <smouche> Server reported: 503 Server is full <Tm_T> smouche: yup, ogg file =) <Tm_T> smouche: wait, I try another track ;) <smouche> streamtuner at least gave me that info; amaroK didn't <Tm_T> heh <Tm_T> ok, now? <Tm_T> atleast there's traffic <Tm_T> should work atm <smouche> nope, Tm_T, Server reported: 503 Server is full <Tm_T> smouche: your ip is +1-473-444-0812? <Tm_T> ... <smouche> yes, Tm_T <Tm_T> ok, so you are "listening" <smouche> well, I'm still getting those "server full" messages. <smouche> maybe that's why! <Synnergy> Ok - got an X - KDE problem that's driving me nuts :) After startup, I get about 30-45 seconds of time, and then the whole thing freezes - mouse/keyboard/twinview - everything works during that first min or so - any thoughts? <smouche> something on here is "listening" but it ain't me <Tm_T> Synnergy: how much ram? <Synnergy> 512 <Tm_T> and do you have swap? <Synnergy> yes - not sure what it's set at though, I just installed Kubuntu - and just let it do the partitions <Tm_T> smouche: hmm, check your network traffic, there is some app connecting and "listening" <Tm_T> strange though <Synnergy> irritating too - I just convied my brother to get rid of mdk - and now it's all screwed up lol <Tm_T> haha <Synnergy> let me clarify one thing :) <Tm_T> Synnergy: sounds like mem problem to me <Synnergy> Like I said, it's fresh install - and using the giving xorg.conf file - runs fine - after setup nv drivers and enable twinview - that's where the prob is <Synnergy> and twinview was running fine on mdk, so I know it's plenty capable <Tm_T> hmm <Tm_T> so maybe there's some misconfiguration then <smouche> weird, well, Tm_T, I'll try that again later. I killed every thing I could find, but still can't get through. <Synnergy> but the strange thing is - during that first min - i can drop windows on and off the second monitor just fune <smouche> ah hah! <Tm_T> check /var/logs/xorg.?.log files <Tm_T> smouche: heh, you cut it =) <Synnergy> hang on - on another machine <Tm_T> =) <smouche> nope <Tm_T> hmm <Tm_T> smouche: ? <smouche> eh, I don't know... <Tm_T> how... why... err? <smouche> thought I solved it, i was wrong <Tm_T> ok <Tm_T> hmm, I'll say magic words, "make install" <smouche> well, anyway, Tm_T, I'm about to install Suse on my old laptop, and hopefully your stream will be the first thing playing on there <Tm_T> heh <Tm_T> smouche: ok, can you now cut your connection to my 33606 port? ;) <smouche> how do I do that Tm_T? I thought I closed everything already <Tm_T> hmm, or is it from my pc =) <Tm_T> I think I have connection to your end =) <Synnergy> Tm_T : Well, there were some errors on libglx - i installed using 'nvidia-glx' - do you know if there's any problems with that? <Tm_T> strange :p <Tm_T> Synnergy: nope <smouche> Tm_T, let me kill my connection and then I'll come back and you tell me what you see... <Synnergy> I'll remove and try installing from nv and see what's up - trying to show off apt :) <Synnergy> my bro always had rpm before * smouche really wishes Tm_T would not "connect to his end" <Tm_T> ehh <Tm_T> hmm, maybe I restart my connection aswell <smouche> Tm_T, what's it showing now? <smouche> I disconnected completely. <smouche> j ubuntu <smouche> oops <Tm_T> it's still there :p <Tm_T> hmm, maybe I restart my connection <Tm_T> ok <Tm_T> doesn't help either =) <Tm_T> strange indeed <Tm_T> one more trick <smouche> is this just me, or are other "listeners" persisting on your connection? <Tm_T> hmm, actually it's connection from my pc to yours, using really strange port <Tm_T> dunno what it is really =) <smouche> yeah, well, um, heh, wtf?? <smouche> what port number? <Tm_T> 33606 * smouche has become an accidental master hacker <smouche> I hacked Finland! <Tm_T> eh, one of my computer is not whole country, you know? <Tm_T> s <smouche> yeah, well, I have to start somewhere <Tm_T> haha <smouche> Tm_T, I disconnected totally; so the connection somehow got reestablished <smouche> ? <Tm_T> dunno <smouche> all right, keep your eye on whatever you're looking at; I'm going to unplug from my cable, log out, and log in again <Brazmetal> hey... Is anybody able to mms (straming) videos in kaffeine? <smouche> ok, Tm_T? <Tm_T> smouche: ok <Tm_T> this is really strange <Synnergy> Hey Tm_T - need to install kernel-source for 5.04 - can you tell me what package is named? <smouche> Tm_T, any change? <Brazmetal> hey... Is anybody able to mms (straming) videos in kaffeine? <Tm_T> smouche: guess :p <smouche> Tm_T, do not make me guess. <Tm_T> nothing changed <Tm_T> I think it's just a bug in my firewall gui <smouche> you're a nice guy, Tm_T, but believe me, this is not a computer you want to be linked to in perpetuity <Tm_T> ? <smouche> hah hah hah <Tm_T> strange word there <smouche> yeah, must be the gui <smouche> in perpetuity? "forever" <Tm_T> ah yes <Tm_T> smouche: because it doesn't disappeared even when your pc was down <smouche> Tm_T, should I dare trying to connect to that stream again? <Tm_T> smouche: sure <smouche> all righhhhhhht! <smouche> what is that? Finnish? <Tm_T> eh, what a survey, asking "What types of games do you most like to play?" and there's no strategy <smouche> cool! <Tm_T> smouche: yup <smouche> shit, this is great! <Tm_T> haha * smouche cranks monsoons; neighbors need to learn finnish anyway <smouche> Tm_T, how can I see the playlist? in xmms, only "amarok" is showing <Tm_T> smouche: you wan't to see my playlist? <smouche> heh heh, dead air. what, you only have one song on there? who was that anyway? <Tm_T> smouche: nope, it strated to play ogg, and ogg wont stream yet <Tm_T> band was Absoluuttinen Nollapiste <Tm_T> smouche: ok, next song that wokrs =) <Tm_T> plrrr <smouche> allright, Tm_T, it's working in streamtuner to, with beep media player <smouche> how many listeners at once can you handle with that? <smouche> these are good tunes <smouche> ah, excellent, now the song titles are showing, Tm_T <Brazmetal> When I load a video streaming (mms) in kaffeine, I can get the video, but I get no sound.... I have the w32codes installed... does anybody know how to solve this problem? <Tm_T> smouche: well, if I stream straight from my pc, 2 and if I use proxy, up to 100 <Tm_T> Brazmetal: hmm, I have many problems with kaffeine, mostly when playing mov files (kaffeine crashes) <smouche> Brazmetal, all I can think is some other app has tied things up; trying "killall artsd" to shut down the engine, then try your video again <Brazmetal> smouche, even if the other videos work perfectly ? <smouche> ah, don't know Brazmetal <Brazmetal> i can run avi, mpg and wmv... with sound... no problems at all <Brazmetal> just loading a mms stream I get this problem * smouche resists urge to rip all Tm_T's streams <Tm_T> =) <Tm_T> smouche: you _can_ buy these records too =) <smouche> what does Nollapiste mean, Tm_T? <Tm_T> smouche: zeropoint <smouche> ah, "nolla" is a cognate of null? <smouche> all right, cool, now I really am gonna shut this sucker down and get some work done on the other computer; see you later Tm_T <Tm_T> =) <Tm_T> wtf <Tm_T> again <n17r0> hi I got a problem :/ <Tm_T> join the club ;) <n17r0> I just installed Kubuntu and was playing around abit, so I got to the part of mounting partitions, after I mounted hda2 the whole system locks, and i needed to reset my pc, but now the folder for "Storage Media" is empty. How can I restore it so all my partitions show up again ? <n17r0> ahh nevermind, they are back again :P <n17r0> hehe i need to learn alot about linux :D <Tm_T> =) <n17r0> ohh btw, as u know the kdelibs-data is fixed, but how can i get back the defualt Kubuntu KDE settings back, cos i now have a KDE desktop. Like when u press on the K-menu, u see there in the right corner KDE 3.4, but the Kubuntu defualt was displaying the name Kubuntu in the K-menu right corner. How to restore this ? <Tm_T> hm? <n17r0> and icons on the taskbar where also changed <n17r0> ohh correction: i mean in the left corner of the kde start menu <n17r0> U know what I mean ? <Tm_T> hmm, yes <n17r0> any way to fix this ? <Tm_T> check your icon settings? <Tm_T> dunno really <n17r0> well its not a big problem anyway :] <Tm_T> hmm, I just edit my desktop graphics =) <n17r0> yeah guess thats the way to do it <Tm_T> well it's the only way if you like to do it yourself <n17r0> and how about the performance of firefox 1.04 on Kubuntu ? Is it worth installing ? <Tm_T> yes <n17r0> cool i also just installed sun-java 1.5 <_luke> whats the deal with deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main ? whats in the repositry?? <\sh> hoary updates <\sh> if there r any <\sh> for kubuntu <_luke> just for kubuntu? <Tm_T> \sh: any luck with pykde yet? <\sh> Tm_T: right now, on my hoary box pykde is working with some patches for kskeleton <\sh> Tm_T: but as we're in the cxx transition I will wait with the injecting into universe <Tm_T> hmm <\sh> Tm_T: and in the end, I'm waiting for upstream to get the patches inside the main source, cause it's changing the syntax of some methods inside pykde...and these syntax changes need to be documented <Tm_T> ah ok <KaiL> who said, Linux is slow? <Tm_T> o/ <Tm_T> it is <Tm_T> my dos 6.22 is sooo much faster <KaiL> I don't think, you can play a DVD on a K6-2/500 with Windows, or? :) <Tm_T> ever tried BeOS ? <KaiL> far ago, yes <Tm_T> :) <SlicerDicer-> is it possible to get the default kde "K" menu back? <SlicerDicer-> I keep on trying but failing.... <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: uhm, what you mean, default icon? <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: rightclick on panel -> add -> special button -> kmenu <Tm_T> ah <SlicerDicer-> not that kail <SlicerDicer-> I am talking the default k menu itself <SlicerDicer-> when you kick on the "K" it brings up a menu <Tm_T> and? <_luke> can someone help me with this error: luke@kubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade, Reading package lists... Done, Segmentation faulty tree... 50% <KaiL> yes <SlicerDicer-> well the damn default one for ubuntu is stupidly small and does not have half the features that the original default KDE one does <KaiL> _luke: ugs <_luke> ugs? <SlicerDicer-> zug zug <KaiL> that looks bad <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: eh, you can set it as much as you like ;) <SlicerDicer-> well I know i can set it <salbee> slicerdicer : i am afrid to do that you have to unistall the kubuntu desktop <SlicerDicer-> I am asking how to get rid of the kubuntu one and put the default one back.... <Tm_T> hmm, same kmenu <Tm_T> yes, it is the same kmenu <SlicerDicer-> does that break the qpplets salbee? <SlicerDicer-> err applets <salbee> what i did is installed kde without kdm and kubuntu desktop <_luke> kail: whats ugs? <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: no, don't do it, it does change nothing <salbee> this way i had the original menu and then i had to orgnize it <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: give me a screenshot from your menu, I relly don't see your problem <SlicerDicer-> have you never seen a default kde menu <SlicerDicer-> if you were to build kde yourself from source? <Tm_T> all what I'm saying, I have about same kmenu whatever I do or whatever distro I use <Tm_T> so I don't understand what's different in your case <SlicerDicer-> hang on <salbee> tm slicer is right the menu is really unorganized <SlicerDicer-> its just fubar <SlicerDicer-> thats all there is to say <Tm_T> eh <Tm_T> unorganized? <SlicerDicer-> I am going to show you gentoo vs kubuntu menu <SlicerDicer-> just relax :) <Tm_T> ok <SlicerDicer-> glad I got LCD moniters lol otherwise this would be much harder hehe <SlicerDicer-> I have reinstalled ubuntu 4 times now cause of breaking kicker trying to get the "default" menu back <SlicerDicer-> some of the simple things missing are say.... "most used applications" section etc <Tm_T> eh? <SlicerDicer-> editors section is nowhere to be found that lists kwrite kate etc <KaiL> a digital Audio _input_ on the Mainboard/Soundcard would be nice :) <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_032.png <KaiL> then I could transfer the signal digitally between the Systems <SlicerDicer-> settings section is gone, lost and found, personal files (home) bookmarks and quick browser are all gone <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: you mean what? <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: I got all of that =) <SlicerDicer-> wtf..... <Tm_T> xD <SlicerDicer-> why dont i? <SlicerDicer-> damn if only mine looked like that <SlicerDicer-> mine looks like shit.... <Tm_T> first, try kappfinder <Tm_T> next, configure your kmenu <SlicerDicer-> argh... I should not have to manually put in all the shit that should be there by default.... <Tm_T> manually? <Tm_T> you don't have to set much <Tm_T> and some people don't want them by default <SlicerDicer-> its reporting it incorrectly anyway <SlicerDicer-> all under the wrong damn sections <SlicerDicer-> and that still does not explain why most used apps does not appear <KaiL> 50C - my K6-2 seams to be getting a temperature problem <SlicerDicer-> I feel like strangling my desktop thats how bad it looks <DiabloD3> 50c isnt so bad, you know <KaiL> DiabloD3: while idling it has 28 ;) <DiabloD3> as a general rule, add 10c to any chip that doesnt have an on die sensor <DiabloD3> so thats realistically 60c <KaiL> so we have 60... <DiabloD3> >65c is considered bad <SlicerDicer-> hang on Tm_T <DiabloD3> and k6s are known for not heating evenly <DiabloD3> so some parts might be 65c <DiabloD3> so, yeah, you may have a heating problem =P <SlicerDicer-> http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/screwedkde.png that should help explain <SlicerDicer-> it looks like hell <SlicerDicer-> half of the menu is missing.... <DiabloD3> lemme look <KaiL> DiabloD3: the cooler is designed for a Athlon, so THAT shouldn't be the problem <DiabloD3> KaiL: ... it should be designed for a socket 7 proc >_< <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: xD <KaiL> DiabloD3: "designed" means 5cm high, not 1cm as common to that time ;) <DiabloD3> erm <DiabloD3> half of what menu is missing? <DiabloD3> KaiL: doesnt mean its the right size to fit it <KaiL> but I guess, it was also not common to play DVDs on this <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: eh, just conf your menu, and please run kappfinder <DiabloD3> KaiL: no. it wasnt. <DiabloD3> er, wow <SlicerDicer-> Tm_T, like I said already it does not put the apps in the right place <DiabloD3> wtf happened to your menu <SlicerDicer-> nor does it find them all <SlicerDicer-> DiabloD3, thats a fresh install <Tm_T> haha <SlicerDicer-> i have had it happen 4 times <SlicerDicer-> it looks like shit <DiabloD3> .... wtf <SlicerDicer-> yeah <Tm_T> ok, broken install media <SlicerDicer-> tell me about it <KaiL> this is one of the fastest Socket 7 CPUs ever and the DVD playback isn't perfect <SlicerDicer-> unless its 64bit screwing up Tm_T <SlicerDicer-> I dont know <DiabloD3> KaiL: because the cache isnt big enough <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: try 32bit ;) <SlicerDicer-> argh... <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: there's only the "change user" menu missing <DiabloD3> KaiL: mpeg2 murders low cache cpus <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, I think not <DiabloD3> KaiL: p2s and k6s alike <KaiL> DiabloD3: you think, a K6-III will be faster? <SlicerDicer-> hang on I will show you the real menu <SlicerDicer-> but I am going to break ubuntu <KaiL> (the K6-2 has only the mainboard cache) <DiabloD3> KaiL: p3s get away because of better cache design (and I think more cache, but dont quote me), and k7s just fucking rock <DiabloD3> KaiL: well, you'd think having the l2 would help <DiabloD3> KaiL: it atleast would be faster than the mobo l2 <DiabloD3> (which turns the mobo l2 into l3) <KaiL> but does it help here? <DiabloD3> it might <DiabloD3> but I doubt it <KaiL> *g* <DiabloD3> you will see a performance increase though <DiabloD3> well, in anything that stabs cache in the face <KaiL> funny enough, I play a DVD on a system, you might be unable to even install Windows on ;) <DiabloD3> thats nothing new KaiL <DiabloD3> windows is entirely fucked up in its media subsystem <DiabloD3> for no good reason either <DiabloD3> like, compare ffmpeg vs ffdshow <KaiL> DRM....... <DiabloD3> using, say, two simplistic apps <DiabloD3> like mplayer vs media player v6 <SlicerDicer-> ok I have totally broken kicker now <DiabloD3> mplayer will fucking blow it out of the water <SlicerDicer-> let me show you what it looks like normal Tm_T <DiabloD3> hands down <DiabloD3> on any codec <SlicerDicer-> its still not normal but its more normal <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: you know, that you can configure the menu? <SlicerDicer-> yes damn it I know I can but I should not need to redo something that should be done by default <Tm_T> eh <DiabloD3> sounds like your install media is fucked <SlicerDicer-> kinda defeats the purpose of using something like ubuntu if I have to spend several hours to install the "K" menu properly <Tm_T> 08:39 < Tm_T> ok, broken install media <KaiL> why do you think, your definition of good default is the good default for everybody? <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer-: try apt-get dist-upgrading <KaiL> DiabloD3: nop, that IS (more or less) how default looks <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, dont you know that there is a default set by kde.org? <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, or are you just totally missing that <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: eh, I got different <SlicerDicer-> http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/screwedkde1.png <SlicerDicer-> btw thats what I just did <Tm_T> I mean KaiL ! <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: kubuntu has it's own (sometimes different) defaults <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer-: then uninstall kdm, kill X, rm -rf .kde, reinstall kubuntu-desktop, and /etc/init.d/kde start <SlicerDicer-> I totally broke kicker but I got part of it going <DiabloD3> KaiL: no, it doesnt <DiabloD3> mine has most used apps, and bookmarks and quick browser and run command and switch user <DiabloD3> his doesnt <Tm_T> so it's broken <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, btw go install fedora go install gentoo go install mandrake or whatever that new name is or any other bloody distro <SlicerDicer-> kde has a default menu <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer-: so try what I asked <Tm_T> SlicerDicer-: fedora's default is different than others, because of fedora :o <KaiL> DiabloD3: he has run. most used, bookmarks and quick browser are disabled in kubuntu default (as I have it on the K6-2) <DiabloD3> if your install media has a broken package, you cant do much <SlicerDicer-> I already removed kubuntu-desktop and it fried kicker <DiabloD3> KaiL: then why are they enabled on my default install, hmm? <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: did you ever update? <Tm_T> but anyway, shower and coffee =>> <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, of course <DiabloD3> nice try SlicerDicer-, but kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package <DiabloD3> nothing is actually in it <DiabloD3> so removing it cant fry kicker <SlicerDicer-> DiabloD3, bullshit! <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: because I'm shure, your default settings are lost ;) <DiabloD3> Don't bullshit me, son. <SlicerDicer-> DiabloD3, listen.... <SlicerDicer-> I just now removed kubuntu-desktop <KaiL> else you'd have a "kubuntu 5.04" on the left :) <SlicerDicer-> thats how I got the menu to show somewhat properly but now applets will not start <SlicerDicer-> so I have no damn menu <SlicerDicer-> I have done this 5 times now <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: remove kubuntu-default-settings, relogin and then tell again. <DiabloD3> 5.04 or 5.4? <KaiL> ah, and reinstall that package ;) <KaiL> 5.4 <SlicerDicer-> brb <KaiL> in other words: "dpkg -P kubuntu-default-settings; apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings" <DiabloD3> heh <KaiL> recreating /etc/kderc <DiabloD3> afk <SlicerDicer-> naw man kicker is fried its baked <SlicerDicer-> deep fried <SlicerDicer-> maybe its cause of 64bit <SlicerDicer-> do you guys use 64bit kubuntu or does anybody here? <KaiL> SlicerDicer-: reinstalled kubuntu-default-settings before relogin? <SlicerDicer-> yep <SlicerDicer-> I totally restarted X actually <KaiL> then you should see at least some changes <SlicerDicer-> nope <KaiL> for example the "kubuntu 5.4" on the left <SlicerDicer-> just reverted back to fucked up kde "k" menu <SlicerDicer-> but all the applets are nuked <SlicerDicer-> no clock nothing <SlicerDicer-> and I had to manually add the k menu so I could get to it <SlicerDicer-> but it nuked kicker out <KaiL> does the file /etc/kderc exist? <SlicerDicer-> want another screenshot? <SlicerDicer-> yeah <SlicerDicer-> http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/screwedkde.png http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/screwedkde1.png <SlicerDicer-> did you happen to compare those? <SlicerDicer-> one has the kmenu somewhat proper still really screwed but its better.... all the applets are gone though <SlicerDicer-> one has totally screwed kmenu <KaiL> http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/screwedkde.png << this looks quite close to default <SlicerDicer-> then you are missing my point I want KDE default not ubuntu default <KaiL> the other is really broken <SlicerDicer-> the other is not broken <KaiL> why do you not change the settings manually, if you want them different to kubuntu settings? <SlicerDicer-> whatever KaiL obviously you dont know what you are talking about. I have been using linux for years and use it as my only operating system <SlicerDicer-> I do know what the KDE default settings are... these are not them you dont know how to do it and are arguing with me on what they are <SlicerDicer-> not worth my time <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer-: nuke ~/.kde and relogin <KaiL> I know the KDE defaults and I know, that they are most idiotic <SlicerDicer-> lol <KaiL> DiabloD3: that would "break" thinks even more in his opinion, as he sees the existance of kubuntu-default-settings a bug <DiabloD3> KaiL: oh shush <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer-: try it <SlicerDicer-> KaiL, my shit is already fucked so it dont matter <SlicerDicer-> I broke it cause you did not trust me that crap was screwed * DiabloD3 whacks SlicerDicer- <SlicerDicer-> gone DiabloD3 <DiabloD3> go try it <SlicerDicer-> I can do more than one thing :) brb <DiabloD3> so go relogin <SlicerDicer> just incase it breaks everything lol <SlicerDicer> nah kicker is still screwed <DiabloD3> hrm <SlicerDicer> same with "k" menu <KaiL> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=306&slide=45 this is kubuntu default. <DiabloD3> uninstall kubuntu-default-settings <DiabloD3> nuke .kde, relogin <KaiL> you can change from that base, if you want. <KaiL> or remove kubuntu-default-settings, but I don't know, what happenes then (and I don't care) <SlicerDicer> ok DiabloD3 <SlicerDicer> well then keep your comments to yourself KaiL <DiabloD3> KaiL: I think it does kde default <DiabloD3> it would be the only thing that would explain why I have a normal kde menu * KaiL loves users, who behave as Assholes <DiabloD3> shush KaiL <SlicerDicer> I am not being a asshole <DiabloD3> will you two quit being idiotic. <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: he wont fucking stop <DiabloD3> btw, if thats kubuntu's default, kubuntu is broken <Tm_T> o/ <KaiL> DiabloD3: why? because it's not allowed to change the "holy defaults of KDE"? <SlicerDicer> I am having a very hard time doing things cause I have hardly any control over my system considering kicker is friend <DiabloD3> no, because the "holy defaults of KDE" dont suck <Tm_T> eh <KaiL> DiabloD3: that's your opinion and you are allowed to change your settings. But don't behave, as if anything else is a bug <DiabloD3> KaiL: bug. filing. now. <SlicerDicer> well kicker is back to life properly kinda... <KaiL> please give me the number for the "WONTFIX" of "NOTABUG" :) <SlicerDicer> still screwed DiabloD3 <SlicerDicer> KaiL: will you shut the fuck up man <SlicerDicer> your offering nothing of use to this coversation and just trolling <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: what the fuck. <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: kicker clock and a few other things came back but the menu is screwd still <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: a) what the fuck b) how the fuck did I get the ubermenu then? <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: something is seriously overfucked on your box, and I dont know what <SlicerDicer> haha <DiabloD3> http://grammarian.homelinux.net/~kde-cvs/crystal-kwin.png <SlicerDicer> let me try nuking some more stuff <DiabloD3> thats what a kde desktop should look like <KaiL> bah, window borders <Tm_T> yuuuuk, gkrellm <DiabloD3> well except for the kwin theme <DiabloD3> I dont like crystal <SlicerDicer> god damn guys... <Tm_T> =) <DiabloD3> but that kicker <DiabloD3> yow <DiabloD3> thats _sexy_ <Tm_T> I'm sexy <Tm_T> no Im not <DiabloD3> no, you're not <Tm_T> am I? <Tm_T> :/ <DiabloD3> are you a guy? <Tm_T> hmm, I think so, lemme check <DiabloD3> are you gay? <Tm_T> no way! <DiabloD3> if not, you're screwed <SlicerDicer> I am nuking more stuff <Tm_T> =) <DiabloD3> only gay guys, lesbian women, and straight women can be sexy <Tm_T> haha <Tm_T> so maybe I'm not a guy then <Tm_T> ...what am I ? <DiabloD3> and I wish I had some gay guy friends. They could teach me to pick up chicks with my newly found sudo-gayness <SlicerDicer> lol <SlicerDicer> well DiabloD3 its a little better <SlicerDicer> still looks like ass though <SlicerDicer> I am going to reinstall kubuntu and try that again <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: I wonder if 64bit is just totally fucked <SlicerDicer> I think you are on the right track there <DiabloD3> because its not making any sense <SlicerDicer> something you had me do fixed half of the stuff <SlicerDicer> only half though <DiabloD3> hrm <SlicerDicer> I cant get to kubuntu.org to test the x86 cd though <DiabloD3> now, for the record, I didnt completely install kde when I started stuff up <KaiL> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso maybe the direct link works? <DiabloD3> so the kde defaults are in there _somewhere_ <SlicerDicer> yeah somewhere <KaiL> DiabloD3: kdelibs-data I guess ;) <SlicerDicer> its just under a mountain of _shit_ <DiabloD3> KaiL: you'd think <DiabloD3> but go look at that kicker <Tm_T> shit? whaere? * DiabloD3 is going to go design his kicker like that <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: I nuked lipstick and it helped <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: lipstick isnt so bad <SlicerDicer> dunno why.... <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: nothing worked right till I nuked it <DiabloD3> turn reverse gradents on, and it looks just like plastik <DiabloD3> huh <DiabloD3> thats whacked <SlicerDicer> yeah.... <KaiL> lipstick is like how Plastic would have looked in KDE2 times *g* <DiabloD3> lipstick was also one of the last things I installed <DiabloD3> KaiL: ahahha yeah <DiabloD3> Im actually thinking about going back to plastik <KaiL> same result, but ~200 options, out of which 190 are useless ;) <SlicerDicer> I prefer plastic <SlicerDicer> plastik rather <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: k! <DiabloD3> hrm <DiabloD3> plastik it is <DiabloD3> with animate progress bars, triangular tree expander... <SlicerDicer> no loveloss with me removing it if it helps :) <DiabloD3> wow its just like lipstik with reverse gradents on <SlicerDicer> lipstick that is <SlicerDicer> yep plastik I have been using it for ages <DiabloD3> ooh <DiabloD3> I just fixed a bug <DiabloD3> switching to plastik turns off that annoying menu icon seperator <DiabloD3> gradent background thing <SlicerDicer> haha <DiabloD3> me++ <SlicerDicer> me-- with 64bit <KaiL> you can disable that in the mentioned 200 settings ;)) <DiabloD3> KaiL: yeah, but, dude <DiabloD3> why the fuck dont I just run plastik in the first place <DiabloD3> infact * DiabloD3 ponders filing a bug on lipstik <DiabloD3> "lipstik is installed, installable, or otherwise exists" <DiabloD3> theres a reason kde defaults to plastik you know <DiabloD3> and theres a reason why ubuntu's gnome defaults to a plastik clone for gtk <Tm_T> simplicity and stability <DiabloD3> tm_T: no <DiabloD3> _it looks good_ <Tm_T> it looks ok <DiabloD3> its the best looking theme in existance imo <Tm_T> heh <SlicerDicer> agreed just like the _DEFAULT_ "K" menu <DiabloD3> Im going to agree with slicer on this <DiabloD3> default++ <SlicerDicer> well the nice thing about it is you can subtract <Tm_T> I like to edit and change and configure things <SlicerDicer> its alot less time consuming to subtract than add <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: true <SlicerDicer> I would rather have a metric ton of horseshit in the K menu than nothing at all like what I have now <DiabloD3> yeah <DiabloD3> theres a reason theres a delete key on the keyboard and no add key <SlicerDicer> hell it takes me 4x the amount of time if not more to do the same task cause shits so strewn haphazardly as well <Tm_T> =) <larkhill> quick question if I may: mouse pointer periodically leaps around the screen uncontrollably - any guesses anyone? <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: how many apps do you use on a daily basis? <SlicerDicer> such as konsole is not in system like KDE.org defaults its in utilities <Tm_T> larkhill: white desk and optical mouse? <larkhill> Tm_T: notebook, PS2 <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: for me, it's generally under 15 apps. <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: has nothing to do with that it has to do with knowing where everything is thats why I like the default its what I am usto <SlicerDicer> retraining your brain to know where all the apps are in a compressed mess is not fun <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: I ended up using kooldock and making my own menu. <SlicerDicer> its not even logical how its layed out <Tm_T> larkhill: yeah, but what type of mouse? <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: logic is for pansies <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: I move my kooldock config from computer to computer. I haven't had to retrain my mind. <larkhill> Tm_T: just normal, two button <SlicerDicer> well you would think that multimedia apps would be under multimedia not under utilities <SlicerDicer> its totally skewed <larkhill> Tm_T: works fine otherwise, a KDE problem I figure <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: that doesn't solve your k menu problem, but it does offer you a fairly painless solution. <Tm_T> hmm <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: the other thing I do is map "Run Program" to Win-R <Tm_T> larkhill: it's not your screensaver? ;p <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: what you mean? <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: man, lets just put everything in utilities? <mrmanic> so anything not in kooldock I can run manually. <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: sounds like a PLAN!!! <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: khotkeys <DiabloD3> how strange <DiabloD3> I just got a spam <DiabloD3> with no content in it <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: I use keyboard commands and kooldock to start pretty much every program I use. <KaiL> aha, powernow-k8 works again <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: I dont use hotkeys <Tm_T> SlicerDicer: you don't use keyboard? <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: why? They're really fast once you get used to them. It's retraining, but you can take your hotkey setup from system to system if you back up correctly. <SlicerDicer> are you guys having problems with ubuntu mirrors? <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: cause I use a metric ton of apps alot of differnet games etc <Tm_T> SlicerDicer: nope? <SlicerDicer> lol <SlicerDicer> kubuntu.org is dead for me as well <SlicerDicer> earlier the mirrors were only going at 35k <SlicerDicer> last night they were going at 700+ <SlicerDicer> screw it I am going to smoke a ciggy this damn apt configure is taking ages * mrmanic shrugs <mrmanic> I think I'm getting jaded. <mrmanic> I have begun to believe that when someone has unbelievable amounts of problems, it's a malfunction between the terminal and the seat. <DiabloD3> mrmanic: yeah, but when hes installing shit from default... <mrmanic> I think that's mostly b/c of spending way too much time tech-supporting my brother and mom <mrmanic> they can break anything <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: kubuntu reinstalled.... <DiabloD3> either a) hes lying, b) something is seriously wrong with the x86-64 port <KaiL> mrmanic: lol <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: I dont lie <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: its still your fault <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: at least about problems <DiabloD3> mrmanic says so <DiabloD3> PEBKAC! <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: I blame you for your problems, b/c of deep seated emotional problems with my mother. <SlicerDicer> actually mrmanic its "error between moniter and keyboard" <DiabloD3> dr freud, eat your heart out <SlicerDicer> get it right <SlicerDicer> errr shit... <SlicerDicer> now I am being the idiot <DiabloD3> problem exists between keyboard and chair <DiabloD3> pebkac. <SlicerDicer> there you go <SlicerDicer> lol <DiabloD3> so thats three points against you <SlicerDicer> I love the pebkac <DiabloD3> moniter, between moniter and keyboard, and the fact I said pebkac and you still screwed it up <SlicerDicer> naw DiabloD3 I am pretty good at knowing what I am doing I dont normally ask unless I try everything I can and break it several times lol <DiabloD3> need help digging that hole? <SlicerDicer> as such I broke it 4 times <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: I'm just joshing you. If you're up for it, see if you can isolate the problem. <mrmanic> It's more helpful if you can do that. <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: no problem <mrmanic> A bug saying "it breaks when I do X" is more useful than "your shit is b0rk3d! again!!" <SlicerDicer> I got nothing better to do I already have wasted a entire day on this trying to troubleshoot it myself <SlicerDicer> haha <SlicerDicer> yeah <SlicerDicer> it is screwed from the word GO <mrmanic> have you checked the kubuntu bug tracker thingy? <mrmanic> is it bugzilla? <DiabloD3> no, launchpad now <mrmanic> ah, when did that happen? <mrmanic> recently? <DiabloD3> bugzilla was a temp thing <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: I am totally new to Ubuntu <SlicerDicer> acutally I come from the land of gentoo :) <DiabloD3> AHAH! <DiabloD3> I KNEW IT! <DiabloD3> I KNEW IT! <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: you fucking ricer! <SlicerDicer> I am a fucking ricer <DiabloD3> No normal user has these many problems! <DiabloD3> Only gentooers do! <SlicerDicer> wana see my make.conf that is commented to allow special flags for any given program! <mrmanic> man <DiabloD3> Goddamn my inuition rocks <mrmanic> I should be an honorary gentooer :( <SlicerDicer> lol <DiabloD3> intuition <DiabloD3> and goddamn my hands are cold <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: well.... <SlicerDicer> I do everything by terminal lol <DiabloD3> so? <DiabloD3> at any given time I have a dozen terminals open <SlicerDicer> its critical that I have my terminal! and the fact its not in the default kubuntu K menu pisses me straight off <DiabloD3> doesnt mean I compile xterm with -O3 -march=pentium3 -mfpmath=sse,387 -funroll-loops -mmmx -msse -fdo-other-shit <DiabloD3> -fomit-frame-pointer <SlicerDicer> alright lets try to do this in a reasonable manner <DiabloD3> oh, and it doesnt mean I spend approx. 2 years bootstrapping a system <SlicerDicer> insted of rm -rfdv ~/.kde lets do a mv :) <DiabloD3> AHAH! RICERISM! RIGHT THERE! <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: gentoo bootstraps and installs everything in 13 hours on my amd <DiabloD3> -rfdv! like -rf wasnt enough! <SlicerDicer> it looks better!!! <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: is gentoo workable as a workstation OS? <mrmanic> haha <mrmanic> when I run linux commands it's all about how they look. <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: this box is gentoo <SlicerDicer> so is my mythtv <SlicerDicer> I nuked out /.kde after backing it up <mrmanic> SlicerDicer: what percentage of time/processor is taken up by compilation after the initial install? <SlicerDicer> not sure offhand never cared <KaiL> mrmanic: don't discuss with gentoo users, esp. not about this, that's waste of time <DiabloD3> mrmanic: about 25% of the cpu's total lifetime on average <DiabloD3> mrmanic: which is about 2 years on average, due to severe overclocking <mrmanic> man <KaiL> haha <SlicerDicer> I dont overclock <mrmanic> about 33% of my total lifetime on average is spent sleeping <DiabloD3> feh, I do like 50% <mrmanic> that leaves 8% of the time as excess compile time b/c my processor is underclocked. <KaiL> dows powernow count as "underclocking"? :) <DiabloD3> no. <SlicerDicer> mrmanic: here is my plan beings that you said insted of saying "OMGWTFBBQ MY SHIT IS FUXXORED" <SlicerDicer> I just backed up my ~/.kde and am going to remove it <SlicerDicer> see what happens <SlicerDicer> if nothing happens then I am going to remove lipstick <SlicerDicer> then if nothing happens I am going to remove kubuntu-defaults or whatever that package name is sorry I dont have it infront of me atm <mrmanic> not a bad idea. <mrmanic> I hate tracking bugs <mrmanic> you have to be so methodical <DiabloD3> bugs can suck my dick <Tm_T> you don't have a dick? <DiabloD3> tm_T: wtf? <Tm_T> joking... <mrmanic> I wish we had no bugs <mrmanic> If not having a dick meant I could write bug free code for the rest of my life, I think it would be a hard decision. <Tm_T> there's no system without bugs <SlicerDicer> and now another problem hits me in the face <SlicerDicer> ethernet lol <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: atleast it wasnt one of our dicks <mrmanic> ! <SlicerDicer> lol <DiabloD3> someone had to say it <harsha_> can some guide me how to setup webdav on kubuntu <SlicerDicer> hey DiabloD3 <mrmanic> ooh, that reminds me <SlicerDicer> question for ya <SlicerDicer> you use x86 right? <mrmanic> do any of you know whether svn:// kioslave is supposed to be in kubuntu? <DiabloD3> yeah <SlicerDicer> btw if this dont work I am going to try that <SlicerDicer> its really going to suck to go to x86 after using 64bit <SlicerDicer> and what the fuck is with debian... all together no matter what flavor it does not like my ethernet cards <DiabloD3> who knows <SlicerDicer> the autodetection on the cd fails everytime <DiabloD3> it could be you use unusual ethernet cards <SlicerDicer> both the modules exist if I do a modprobe -l <SlicerDicer> sk98lin is not to unusual these days anyway <SlicerDicer> the marvell chipset <SlicerDicer> gigabit onboard <SlicerDicer> lota mobos have them <DiabloD3> gigabit isnt common <SlicerDicer> errrm sure it is <SlicerDicer> where have you been <DiabloD3> nope. it isnt. <SlicerDicer> all my mobos have gigabit <DiabloD3> thats good for you. <SlicerDicer> hell one is over a year old <DiabloD3> but most people dont have gigabit. <SlicerDicer> they were like 120$ for the k7 board and the k8 board was 248$ or something like that <pd_> Ijust installed Adobe Acrobat7.0 from a tar ball on my kubuntu <pd_> I should say it excellent <DiabloD3> hey SlicerDicer <DiabloD3> figured out how to turn that shit on <SlicerDicer> yeah? <DiabloD3> right click on K, panel menu, configure panel <SlicerDicer> how how <SlicerDicer> tell tell! <DiabloD3> click on the menu tab <SlicerDicer> wait.... <SlicerDicer> I am in the middle of reinstalling kubuntu <SlicerDicer> lol <SlicerDicer> I broke it and had to reinstall <SlicerDicer> I screwed up my rm -rfdv and nuked out the wrong directory... yeah it happens to the best of us when using tab completion lol <SlicerDicer> least it aint gentoo <DiabloD3> heh <hussam> Riddell: is kde 3.4.1 still planned for kubuntu hoary? <SlicerDicer> damn... is there anyway to stop this configure apt? <SlicerDicer> its just hanging <hussam> Riddell: Hi, just wanted to ask. Is kde 3.4.1 still planned for kubuntu hoary? <DiabloD3> one would think =/ <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: anyway to kill the apt configure during the install <SlicerDicer> cause its just hangin <hussam> Riddell: Hi, just wanted to ask. Is kde 3.4.1 still planned for kubuntu hoary? <DiabloD3> SlicerDicer: control c <SlicerDicer> nothing <SlicerDicer> I already tried that <DiabloD3> unplug your connection <SlicerDicer> screw it I am running the installer again <uniqwork> hussam: I don't think it'll go into main. But there will probably be packages for kubuntu, yes. <KaiL> SlicerDicer: it's not hanging, it's downloading some stuff <SlicerDicer> DiabloD3: just a headsup I am
{'channel': 'kubuntu', 'month': 6}