#ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-06 <smartboyhw> Hello jbicha, how's GNOMEbuntu? #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-07 <Jigar> hii <smartboyhw> Hii jigar and jbicha <Jigar> hi <Jigar> i need a help guys <smartboyhw> OH alright <smartboyhw> Jigar: Please name your issue:) <Jigar> i installed ubuntu in vmware but i can't start wifi <smartboyhw> Jigar: YOu mean NORMAL ubuntu or GNOMEbuntu developer snapshot??? <Jigar> GNOME <smartboyhw> OH alright. Why does it have WIFI in VMWare at all!!?!!? <Jigar> ya it have <smartboyhw> You're running it in a VM, so how could the VM have a wifi!!?!? <Jigar> it have <smartboyhw> Jigar: You mean your notebook right? <Jigar> ya <smartboyhw> OH alright <smartboyhw> In a VM it is a wired connection <Jigar> so how it can access bluetooth <smartboyhw> No wireless:) <smartboyhw> Jigar: VMWare or virtualbox have hardware drivers:) <Jigar> ya <smartboyhw> So they have bluetooth ones too <smartboyhw> However the networks have virtual bridges <smartboyhw> And they are wired ones:) <Jigar> i dont do so <smartboyhw> !!?!?!? <Jigar> there is no virtual bridge <smartboyhw> Jigar: It should have set up one for you <smartboyhw> You sure there is NO network bridge? <Jigar> there is ethernet <smartboyhw> Yes, no internet? <Jigar> no <smartboyhw> Uh oh #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-08 <darkxst> jbicha, are you planning to roll another iso once all the bug fixes land, or just wait for beta2 milestone? <darkxst> _all_, as in gdm, ubiquity and vmwgfx <jbicha> darkxst: I'm not sure, but there were quite a few bugs with the original Alpha <jbicha> how about you let us know what bugs you're interested in waiting for? <jbicha> you can use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/1210Alpha2 as a tracker page <jbicha> did the vmgfx bug get fixed in tonight's kernel update? <darkxst> jbicha, its in 3.5.0-14.15 <darkxst> don't know if its hit the repo's yet though <darkxst> anyway I think you have all the bugs I was thinking of covered on that page under fixed: (I just added vmwgfx) <jbicha> it didn't seem to help VirtualBox <darkxst> virtualbox hasnt been committed <darkxst> there driver is in a seperate package <darkxst> virtualbox-guest-dkms <darkxst> (unless you have installed guest additions via virtualbox, then you get upstream package) <darkxst> my patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1039157/comments/33 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1039157 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "vmwgfx kernel module not loaded by default" [Undecided,In progress] <darkxst> does fix virtualbox module loading <jbicha> have you considered submitting the virtualbox patch to Debian? <darkxst> no, but I probably should! <jbicha> yeah, we're mostly in sync with Debian for virtualbox <darkxst> against wheezy? <jbicha> well wheezy uses linux 3.2 so maybe it's not affected? <jbicha> against unstable is fine <darkxst> actually I think it has to do with Xorg 1.13 <darkxst> not the kernel version <darkxst> and debian doesnt have xorg 1.13 <darkxst> it appears that previously X would load the drm drivers, if they weren't already loaded <jbicha> hmm, I just tried the Fedora 18 nightly, it looks like it's still on GNOME 3.5.5 <jbicha> there is a separate updates repo (kinda like -proposed) that 3.5.91 in it, but that still surprises me <darkxst> well f18 is well behind schedule! <darkxst> they basically bump the release date back a week, every meeting <jbicha> it's a striking contrast to Ubuntu which never postpones releases <darkxst> but ubuntu does release regardless of bugs <jbicha> have you tried qemu/kvm? I'm getting fallback mode but the Fedora 18 disk worked for shell mode <darkxst> f18 uses llvmpipe <darkxst> (software rendering) <darkxst> I don't know why it doesnt work on ubuntu <darkxst> and no havent tried qemu/kvm, but it doesnt have any 3D accel support <darkxst> although tried boxes, and didnt get very far <jbicha> boxes was totally broken for me too <darkxst> I can't even get to booting the image! <jbicha> yeah <jbicha> maybe it's the custom qemu that Ubuntu uses <jbicha> and that none of the Boxes developers use Ubuntu <darkxst> possibly <darkxst> hmm reportbug doesnt work so well, when postfix is broken! <darkxst> looks like fedora have some custom patches to make it work <darkxst> (gnome-shell under llvmpipe) <darkxst> jbicha, have reported virtualbox drm issue against debian <darkxst> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686994 <ubot5> Debian bug 686994 in virtualbox-guest-dkms "virtualbox-guest-dkms: virtualbox drm driver fails to auto-load" [Normal,Open] <smartboyhw> jbicha: You said you need a QA Team???? <smartboyhw> I can help:) <smartboyhw> Or can I PM you? <smartboyhw> !? <smartboyhw> jbicha: I found this <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~ugr-testing <smartboyhw> Weird <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha <smartboyhw> jbicha: PM <smartboyhw> jbicha: Are you ignoring me?:( <darkxst> smartboyhw, that is a different/old project <smartboyhw> darkxst: What do you mean? <smartboyhw> This is a new project you know <darkxst> no the UGR link above <darkxst> is an unofficial remix <smartboyhw> No it is a new one <smartboyhw> We are trying to get it to become official <smartboyhw> http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/ <darkxst> the link you posted is for the old ubuntu gnome remix <smartboyhw> Is the Original one <darkxst> unrelated <smartboyhw> Ah you mean the testing team thing <smartboyhw> I want jbicha to takeover and change it to a new one <darkxst> jbicha, just test gnome-shell running on llvmpipe and seems to run quite well <darkxst> (in vmware) <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1047828 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1047828 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "enable gnome-shell to run with software rendering (llvmpipe)" [Undecided,New] <jbicha> smartboyhw: no I wasn't ignoring you, I have to sleep some time :) <smartboyhw> HAHAHA <darkxst> jbicha, gdm seems to work too! <smartboyhw> You said you want a QA Team? <darkxst> jbicha, it is alteast as fast as unity, if not faster. full gnome-shell experience with no 3D driver <darkxst> although I suspect it may struggle on a single core CPU's <smartboyhw> jbicha: I can help in the QA Team for sure:) <smartboyhw> jbicha: You listening? I wanna help <jbicha> darkxst: do you know if llvmpipe is blacklisted in Unity too or does Unity just ignore that gnome-session blacklist? <darkxst> jbicha, not entirely sure, but it looks like unity does not use gnome-session <jbicha> ok, I'll ask robert_ancell <darkxst> actually maybe it does use gnome-session, but doesnt do a hardware check like the gnome sessions #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-09 <darkxst> the blacklist is processed by this helper -> /usr/lib/gnome-session/gnome-session-check-accelerated <darkxst> which the ubuntu session does not use <jbicha> ok, I'll probably apply it then but I'll see what robert has to say <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha <jbicha> smartboyhw: good morning <smartboyhw> jbicha: Good morning. You said you want a QA Team isn't it in Ubuntu Forums?? <jbicha> yes, we need several people that enjoy testing things to find out what needs fixing <smartboyhw> jbicha: I enjoy testing:) <jbicha> ...especially during the milestone testing weeks <jbicha> have you ever done milestone testing? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Did 3 times at least <jbicha> cool <jbicha> have you tried to run the iso-build-script? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Can't get it to work:( <jbicha> I added logging yesterday so that should help us see what's not working <smartboyhw> OK <jbicha> where did you have trouble? <jbicha> or you could try again and pastebin the log <smartboyhw> I don't know how to use it at all:( <smartboyhw> Do help jbicha <jbicha> have you ever used bzr before? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Yes and did. I just don't know how to make the iso build script working <jbicha> do you have a ubuntu desktop quantal iso already downloaded? <smartboyhw> OH no. Let me download one <jbicha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ <smartboyhw> jbicha: I will download the official beta 1, it's better <jbicha> zsync is awesome for keeping those up to date <jbicha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage <smartboyhw> OK let me download it first. Shouldn't take more than 10 min <jbicha> ooh you have faster internet than me <smartboyhw> jbicha: And I'm only using my home wifi:) <smartboyhw> I don't know why I got 10 times slower davidhull@example.net <smartboyhw> 3 minutes 35 seconds remaining <smartboyhw> jbicha: I'm zsync-ing now <smartboyhw> jbicha: PING I've finished zsync <smartboyhw> So what to do? <jbicha> ok, follow the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12224048&postcount=49 <jbicha> in the customize line you have to tell it where your Ubuntu iso is <smartboyhw> Sorry got things like umount: work-amd64/edit/proc: not found <smartboyhw> umount: work-amd64/edit/sys: not found <smartboyhw> umount: work-amd64/edit/dev: not found <smartboyhw> umount: work-amd64/edit/dev/pts: not found <smartboyhw> umount: work-amd64/mnt: not found <smartboyhw> in the clean step <smartboyhw> jbicha: Then !!?!??! <jbicha> those errors should be harmless <smartboyhw> Oh OK <smartboyhw> Trying now:) <smartboyhw> Building:) <jbicha> ok on my computer it takes about an hour to build, not counting downloading all the packages <smartboyhw> WOW WOW WOW <smartboyhw> I will leave down the results after I went playing badminton at 2-3 pm then :) (It's 11:43 AM here) <jbicha> It's 11:43 PM here :) <smartboyhw> Oh that is 12 hours time difference <smartboyhw> Maybe I'll just leave down the results in the Ubuntu GNOME Remix Developer Snapshot thread in Ubuntu Forums <jbicha> by the way gdm is broken with that script, you can use username ubuntu to login (no password) <smartboyhw> Oh OK <smartboyhw> jbicha: After you wake up ping me <jbicha> good evening! <smartboyhw> good evening <smartboyhw> I finished building amd64 <jbicha> cool <smartboyhw> But then I abruptly cut i386 <jbicha> please file bugs if you see things that aren't right <smartboyhw> So I need to do it again <jbicha> ok, if you interrupt the build, you need to run the clean command <smartboyhw> OK <smartboyhw> Now rebuilding the i386 build now jbicha:) <jbicha> the two should be pretty similar <smartboyhw> Yep I think <smartboyhw> jbicha: Finished i386 build <smartboyhw> :) <smartboyhw> jbicha: So? <jbicha> well being able to build the latest builds is useful for verifying whether bugs are fixed or not, and whether there are new bugs <smartboyhw> Good I will run the build in a VM now:) <jbicha> I think I'm going to do a second alpha after all but I want to get bug 1047828 fixed & figure out how to get gdm autologin working correctly <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1047828 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "enable gnome-shell to run with software rendering (llvmpipe)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047828 <smartboyhw> Yes that is a big prob <jbicha> autologin didn't actually work for the alpha either but I hacked it to work there <smartboyhw> :) <smartboyhw> jbicha: PING <smartboyhw> The new build has a "Installer encountered an unrecoverable error" <smartboyhw> Uh oh <jbicha> smartboyhw: just ask your question, you don't have to ping me each time <jbicha> right, that's the problem I was telling you about, hit ok or whatever and log in with username ubuntu & no password <smartboyhw> OH alright <smartboyhw> Well ubuntu and no passwd then the login session doesn't response <jbicha> are you using virtualbox or what? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Virtualbox <jbicha> ok, you can try Ctrl+F1 to get to a virtual terminal <jbicha> sudo service gdm restart <smartboyhw> No doesn't work <smartboyhw> No response <jbicha> sorry, RightCtrl+F1 <smartboyhw> Ah OK <jbicha> and it's RightCtrl+F7 usually to get back to the graphical interface although I think restarting gdm/lightdm will switch you there automatically <smartboyhw> Yeah it works <smartboyhw> Now I'm installing <jbicha> after installing you could even try llvmpipe by commenting out llvmpipe in the filename listed in the bug report <smartboyhw> OK <smartboyhw> jbicha: I think the build worked, it can install <smartboyhw> So then what is the llvmpipe bug and how to replicate it? <jbicha> smartboyhw: do you get GNOME Shell or GNOME Classic when you log in? <smartboyhw> Yes I get it <jbicha> which? <smartboyhw> Works completely good <smartboyhw> Though I don't know if it is shell or classic <jbicha> what does it say in the top left corner? <smartboyhw> Applications and places <jbicha> that's GNOME Classic, GNOME Shell says Activities <smartboyhw> OK <jbicha> you can try llvmpipe by editing /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility <jbicha> and putting a # in front of -llvmpipe, the # comments out the line so it's ignored by the computer <jbicha> and then you'll need to restart gdm or you can restart your computer <smartboyhw> OK I did, then save? <jbicha> yes <smartboyhw> jbicha: Rebooted and now it goes to GNOME shell <smartboyhw> works I think <jbicha> on the other hand, we shouldn't need llvmpipe in virtualbox, there's a bug on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/1210Alpha2 about that <smartboyhw> Oh alright <smartboyhw> So er? <smartboyhw> jbicha: I think I should upload the links for download of the new build:) <jbicha> no, we're not ready to release this yet since autologin definitely needs to work <smartboyhw> I do agree:) <darkxst> jbicha, what is the autologin issue? <jbicha> darkxst: bug 1046630 but that patch isn't working here <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1046630 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper doesn't configure GDM autologin correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046630 <jbicha> for the alpha I cheated and edited that file manually but that gives users a prompt when updating which isn't nice <darkxst> is it only supposed to update on first boot? <darkxst> or is it if the user has customised the auto login? <darkxst> if first boot, then: <darkxst> if ! `grep -qs 'Enabling automatic login' $GDMCustomFile` ; then <jbicha> casper (in the live session) is supposed to magically update /etc/gdm/custom.conf to set GDM to autologin the ubuntu user <darkxst> could work <darkxst> and include that comment in the sed command, so it gets removed <darkxst> or you could just write an arbitrary comment in there <darkxst> and then grep for that <darkxst> something like this http://pastebin.com/30XyERYT <darkxst> sorry missed a backslash -> http://pastebin.com/J3dUmKbL <darkxst> jbicha, your patch was wrong anyway <darkxst> $USERNAME, wont get replaced since its inside the quotes <jbicha> yup, I just figured that out <jbicha> I'm rebuilding with "" instead but I don't know if that will be enough <darkxst> well it will fix the grep match atleast <jbicha> yeah, this is what I currently get: http://i.imgur.com/CsuI0.png hoping the rebuild works <darkxst> well it will if that error was due to the autologin settings be missing (which they would have been!) <darkxst> anyway I attached a better patch to that bug #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-10 <darkxst> jbicha, have you encountered this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1047706 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1047706 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "PolKit Auth Dialog Fails to Authenticate when using pkexec" [Undecided,New] <Robert123> Hello <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha <jbicha> I guess we won't have ubuntuone-installer on the disk after all, bug 1048669 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1048669 in Ubuntu One Control Panel trunk "Drop ubuntuone-installer package" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048669 <smartboyhw> OH alright <smartboyhw> jbicha: Any updates on the iso build script? #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-11 <darkxst> jbicha, how did you go with the autologin? <jbicha> darkxst: I still can't get it fully working, it's a pain to test though <darkxst> you know you need to rebuild ramdisk? <darkxst> initrd.lz <jbicha> um, I don't know <darkxst> I have it patching custom.conf <jbicha> does your patch work for you? <darkxst> the problem is not the patches <darkxst> the scripts run from the ramdisk and not the /usr/share/path <jbicha> ok, can you fix https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/+junk/iso-build-script ? <darkxst> yeh <jbicha> can you submit a merge proposal or something then? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Yo <jbicha> smartboyhw: hi <smartboyhw> Going to build another build again of the GNOME remix:) <jbicha> smartboyhw: what desktop do you run? I see you're a member of LP groups for most of the major ones? <jbicha> the script still doesn't handle gdm autologin correctly, darkxst had a fix but I haven't had a chance to try it yet <smartboyhw> Mainly Ubuntu and Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio in one package <smartboyhw> *laptop <jbicha> so mainly just Unity, KDE, XFCE, and sometimes GNOME Shell? ;) <smartboyhw> jbicha: Yes LOL <smartboyhw> jbicha: So how are you going to set up the QA Team/ <jbicha> smartboyhw: I was hoping that the team would self-organize <smartboyhw> That's difficult:) * TheLordOfTime yawns * smartboyhw yawns <jbicha> a lot of people said they were interested in testing gnomebuntu once it was available <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: know anyone on the SRU team i can stab with a question? <TheLordOfTime> and who is on IRC right now :P <jbicha> if it's "main" you can ask in #ubuntu-devel, universe in #ubuntu-motu <jbicha> there's a decent chance that a non-SRU team member can answer your question too <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: its a precise-proposed verification question, because I wrote the debdiff, and can confirm the package works to fix a bug, but again, I wrote the debdiff, not sure if i can actually mark it verification-done :P <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: I've verified my own bugs, I generally wait a few days to give someone else a chance <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: well, i submitted the debdiff for the bug at least :P and i confirm(ed) it worked, also confirmed the bug initially :P <jbicha> smartboyhw: interested QA people can work with the QA guys from the other flavors <jbicha> I noticed that you at least have attended several QA team meetings <TheLordOfTime> i'll poke -release, the package is php (main), so... <smartboyhw> jbicha: I do like it, no programmingn and a lot of VMs:) <darkxst> https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/casper/fix-gdm-autologin-lp1046630/+merge/123852 <darkxst> jbicha, also made the build script much less hacky! <jbicha> you probably still want to suppress log out from indicator-session since that's still used by GNOME Classic <darkxst> ah ok <darkxst> was wondering why I couldnt find it! <jbicha> darkxst: why the rebuild-iso function? <darkxst> allows to rebuild the iso without completely rebuilding the whole chroot <darkxst> was just using it for testing, since can for example update casper and rebuild iso in about 2mins <jbicha> ok, I merged your branch & pushed <jbicha> I'm doing a test build now so let's see what happens in an hour or so <darkxst> also have temporarily enable gdm debugging in the version with the build script <darkxst> since I have been seeing occasional seg faults in gdm-simple-slave #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-12 <darkxst> Bug 1049410 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1049410 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Booting the live session on ubuntu GNOME remix, occasionally crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049410 <jbicha> darkxst: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=9478 <darkxst> jbicha, are there any errors in the build log? <darkxst> I havent seen that with vmware <darkxst> can you try and rebuild initrd + iso with the scripts I just uploaded to my branch <darkxst> "./update-initramfs.sh amd64" <darkxst> actually now I am getting it in vmware <jbicha> darkxst: TheMuso is sponsoring your casper fix :) <darkxst> jbicha, ok :) thanks <darkxst> although I don't think that boot error is related to my build patches <smartboyhw> jbicha: Woken up?:) <jbicha> smartboyhw: good morning <smartboyhw> Good evening <jbicha> darkxst: ah, yes, I'm able to duplicate that video mode bug with today's daily ubuntu-desktop image <smartboyhw> jbicha: How are you working on http://gnomebuntu.org/? <jbicha> I don't have admin access to that site so I'm kinda ignoring it <smartboyhw> jbicha: What? Then who has??? <jbicha> run whois gnomebuntu.org <darkxst> jbicha, yeh, thought that would happen! <jbicha> darkxst: yeah I reported bug 1049650 for it <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1049650 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Regression: "Undefined video mode" with 3.5.0-14.16" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049650 <jbicha> darkxst: the new casper works great! <jbicha> now the only question is whether we release Alpha2 now or do we wait for the (I think mostly harmless) video mode bug to get fixed <darkxst> yeh it seems harmless #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-13 <darkxst> and it doesnt affect grub (once installed) <darkxst> jbicha, perhaps you could do a build with a downgrade kernel? <jbicha> well it's already been dropped from the archives, unfortunately the new kernel landed before the new casper did <darkxst> do you have the packages in the cache? <jbicha> we also want the metacity update which means that window buttons show on the right in GNOME Classic <darkxst> I only have the amd64 build pacakge <jbicha> LP still has the old .deb's so yeah it's possible; I'm just getting tired of hacking things together <darkxst> jbicha the metacity fix has landed <darkxst> ? <jbicha> yes, the override has been moved to ubuntu-default-settings which isn't installed by default on Ubuntu GNOME <jbicha> but if you have ubuntu-default-settings installed, the buttons will still be on the left since we don't override the setting <darkxst> but that won't affect the liveCD? <jbicha> window buttons are on the right if you build the live CD today <darkxst> jbicha, do you have 32bit iso from just before the new kernel? <jbicha> yeah but I had been fighting casper for a while so I don't know if that part worked <darkxst> you can repack initrd.lz with new autologin file, and then just use the kernel from that to build an image <jbicha> I don't think I'll bother, I think I'll just release with that bug <jbicha> you're right that it doesn't affect after install <darkxst> ok <darkxst> smartboyhw, build script is fixed now if you want to test <darkxst> upstream, if you build an image today autologin should work ;) <smartboyhw> :) <darkxst> there is still one bug harmless boot bug though bug 1049650 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1049650 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Regression: "Undefined video mode" with 3.5.0-14.16" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049650 <darkxst> that is not ours <smartboyhw> :) <smartboyhw> Hi jbicha <TheLordOfTime> I BRING YOU ALL GREETINGS <TheLordOfTime> whoops caps <smartboyhw> lol <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Alpha2 <TheLordOfTime> so, now my tasks includes ubuntu server stuff o.O <TheLordOfTime> how the heck did that happen... <smartboyhw> Damn it I just finished compiling the builds <smartboyhw> And now suddenly now it has been shipped:( <TheLordOfTime> i see Alpha2 <TheLordOfTime> not "Release" <jbicha> smartboyhw: it's the same thing; I use the same script you do <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: i assume that bug triaging is still a priority for 12.10 of any derivative <jbicha> yes, we ship parts of GNOME that no one else does so those need testing in particular <jbicha> *no one else in Ubuntu* <smartboyhw> HAHAHA <TheLordOfTime> i might not be able to *test*, but if you point me to the relevant buglists, i'll see what can be triaged <TheLordOfTime> (on Windows right now, stuck there for a while) <smartboyhw> well I say it is good for beta except that Undefined video mode <jbicha> oh ok, you can just pick a package then: for instance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/ <smartboyhw> jbicha: Don't forget to post a message on Ubuntu Forums of Alpha 2 <jbicha> smartboyhw: I think that bug is a bit annoying but generally harmless and I didn't think it would get fixed this week <smartboyhw> Yep <jbicha> I would have been willing to wait a day or two, but they still haven't isolated what caused the problem yet <smartboyhw> jbicha: People seemed perplexed on how to use the iso build script <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: i might tweak that page a tiny but, due to the "bugs" section just saying "The Bug Squad is always looking for more help." <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: Bug Squad has a lot to do with it, but 95% of triagers arent in Bug Squad <TheLordOfTime> save for those of us who are Bug Gods :P <smartboyhw> I think I can go and make a ISO build script wiki page on the Ubuntu wiki <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: feel free to critique my edits though <smartboyhw> TheLordOfTime, I thought you mean 95% are not in the bug control team <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw: that's true :P <TheLordOfTime> but the Bug Gods are different ;) <TheLordOfTime> (Bug Control isnt just bugsquad, different other groups have bug control as well) <smartboyhw> ;) <TheLordOfTime> (such as the security team) <jbicha> sure, feel free to make improvements <TheLordOfTime> jbicha: done, feel free to critique severely * TheLordOfTime is in class, and wrote that on the fly <TheLordOfTime> wait, you ship GDM? <TheLordOfTime> instead of lightdm> <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: yes, GDM is the only thing that works with the lock screen in GNOME Shell 3.6 <TheLordOfTime> ah <TheLordOfTime> isnt GDM more resource-intense than lightdm? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ISOBuildScript <smartboyhw> The instructions for the ISO build script:) <smartboyhw> Read it:) <smartboyhw> jbicha: What's the MD5SUM of the Alpha 2 images? <jbicha> a3fa2bfff9a65acec4d376b3b187f271 quantal-ubuntu-gnome-i386-20120913.iso <smartboyhw> OK <jbicha> b03d1db5859c3ae2b3f036ed51832a55 quantal-ubuntu-gnome-amd64-20120913.iso <smartboyhw> Sha1 or md5? <smartboyhw> jbicha: ? <jbicha> md5 <smartboyhw> OK <smartboyhw> Just posted it on the Ubuntu GNOME Remix dev snapshot thread on UF <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, isnt GDM more resource-intensive than lightdm? <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw, also, for the record, privmsg me without permission and i get cross :p <TheLordOfTime> just saying (in regards to #freenode) <smartboyhw> ;P <smartboyhw> I have learnt the lesson before (for 10 times:(_ #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-14 <darkxst> jbicha, I notice the gtk symbolic icon bug affects the gnome classic status icons <jbicha> oh? I don't think I've run GNOME Classic this week <jbicha> that's why we need a QA team :) <darkxst> the status icons seem to use ambiance theme <darkxst> and hence the coloured icons are displayed instead of symbolics <jbicha> so there's a new kernel that supposedly fixes the undefined video mode problem <jbicha> that's a pretty quick turnaround <darkxst> jbicha, yeh very quick <darkxst> aside from the coloured icons making this worse, gnome classic will still show wrong power icons once that gtk bug is fixed <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1050695 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1050695 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "gnome-panel does not obey icon theme" [Undecided,New] <jbicha> could you include a screenshot, gnome classic looks the same to me as it looked in precise <darkxst> ok, added <TheLordOfTime> you know if it were up to me, i'd Incomplete that bug <TheLordOfTime> um <TheLordOfTime> how's that different? <darkxst> the icons are full color <darkxst> in the status area <darkxst> and they are also from Ambiance not Adwaita <TheLordOfTime> here's a question: <TheLordOfTime> do application icons *have* Adwaita themed icons shipped with them? <TheLordOfTime> ('tis valid) <darkxst> well things like nautalius do <TheLordOfTime> "things like nautilus" <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, /query? <TheLordOfTime> unrelated technical question <darkxst> the icon on bottom left corner is adwaita icon <jbicha> darkxst: are you sure those aren't Adwaita icons? they sure like Adwaita icons to me and light-themes isn't even installed on my VM <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, screenshot for compare? <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: sure <TheLordOfTime> and also, seriously, unrelated tech question :P <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: there's nothing to compare, his screenshot looks just like my fresh Ubuntu GNOME install <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, where's the ISO? * TheLordOfTime was going to VM it <TheLordOfTime> ... after this system finishes its kernel updates <TheLordOfTime> unfortunately, from a bugsquad perspective, i dont' see enough information in this bug, that'd technically rule it as "incomplete" <TheLordOfTime> ... but apparently i'd want to test first :P * TheLordOfTime digs around for ISOs * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-gnome to: Ubuntu GNOME Remix | Alpha 2 is out! Download from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Alpha2 | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | http://gnomebuntu.org/ | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: download link is in the channel topic ^ <TheLordOfTime> <TheLordOfTime> unfortunately, from a bugsquad perspective, i dont' see enough information in this bug, that'd technically rule it as "incomplete" <TheLordOfTime> <TheLordOfTime> ... but apparently i'd want to test first :P <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, ^ repost of what i said after you died <jbicha> I guess the bug is that gnome-themes-standard probably doesn't ship symbolic icons for the specific icon names that the indicators are looking for <jbicha> ...or the bug could be that the indicators are looking for the wrong icon names but I believe it would be too late to fix that for 12.10 if that's the case <jbicha> if it would require renaming Ubuntu icon theme icons <TheLordOfTime> might need further information or details <TheLordOfTime> if it were my call, the bug would be incomplete, but that's me <jbicha> someone could poke around the indicator's source code and see what it's doing <TheLordOfTime> the bug as it stands is pretty damn ambiguous, you have to admit <TheLordOfTime> as it stands, at least, its incomplete. <TheLordOfTime> (again, IMO) <TheLordOfTime> i'm headed off to beat my girlfriend in Halo on the xbox, then go to bed ;P * smartboyhw has just finished compiling a daily build again <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha <jbicha> good morning <darkxst> ah timezones! <smartboyhw> lol <darkxst> jbicha, you had any progress getting artwork and slideshow? <smartboyhw> jbicha: I do wonder: Are you a canonical employee/ <darkxst> smartboyhw, this is a community resping <darkxst> remix even <smartboyhw> lol since I saw my gmail saying that jbicha sent through canonical.com <jbicha> smartboyhw: no, but I have an ubuntu.com email which Canonical manages <smartboyhw> Ah that's why:) <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership <smartboyhw> jbicha: How are ya? <smartboyhw> jbicha: Getting membership in I think October or Nov <jbicha> I started using Ubuntu in 2006 and didn't get membership until 2011 <jbicha> I should have applied sooner actually <smartboyhw> What? That's long <smartboyhw> 6 months is usually enough <jbicha> not exactly <smartboyhw> Well 5 YEARS is a bit too long, I think maybe 1 to 2 years <jbicha> it's not 6 months of use, it's at least 6 months of "significant" involvement <smartboyhw> Don't I know;) <darkxst> jbicha, so boot bug wasnt fixed so quickly after all? <smartboyhw> darkxst: Anyway it is not the Remix problem I think, upstream it is <darkxst> smartboyhw, yeh its definately ubuntu bug <smartboyhw> Wait for the ubuntu devs then <smartboyhw> jbicha: You do work a lot on docs I see:) <jbicha> yeah, I need other people to do docs stuff too but it's a bit challenging to get involved in it <jbicha> it doesn't require knowing programming though <smartboyhw> docbook is too difficult to me:) <darkxst> smartboyhw, did I even address that question to you? no need to jump in with random answers! <jbicha> oh, well, ubuntu-docs itself uses Mallard now which is simpler than docbook, but yeah <smartboyhw> :) <TheLordOfTime> oww... okay, so maybe staying awake for 40 hours is bad *yawn* <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: go to sleep! <TheLordOfTime> i just woke up after sleeping <TheLordOfTime> ended up passed out on the floor, apparently *yawn* <madchild> can someone please give me a little sound troubleshooting advice <madchild> hello? <TheLordOfTime> patience <TheLordOfTime> !patience <ubot5> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-15 <smartboyhw> Is jbicha awake? LOL <smartboyhw> Well yo jbicha <smartboyhw> OK so jbicha is back:) <smartboyhw> oops' <jbicha> darkxst: hey, do you want to submit another casper merge proposal? #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-16 <darkxst> jbicha, umm what for? <darkxst> is there something else thats needs to be fixed? <jbicha> yeah, I think we shouldn't use disable-log-out since it also hides power off/restart <jbicha> you could use disable-user-switching to hide "Switch Session" <jbicha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684118 <ubot5> Gnome bug 684118 in general "Allow disable-logout without disabling Power Off" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] <jbicha> I doubt that will get fixed for 3.6 since they're in code freeze, but maybe for 3.8 <darkxst> hmm ok <jbicha> there were some complaints on the forum and I think they're right <darkxst> jbicha maybe I can use casper to patch out the logout item from the menu <jbicha> yeah, you probably could, I don't know if disabling log out is very important... <jbicha> but if you do, I think it's /usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/userMenu.js <darkxst> well except if they log out they land at a userless GDM <jbicha> oh yeah, there is that <darkxst> I will upload a patch upstream <darkxst> and if it doesnt make it in, apply it with casper <jbicha> cool, thanks! <darkxst> jbicha, goes a bit deeper than just the shell <jbicha> darkxst: could you update your descriptions for http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224433 <jbicha> the first shouldn't have changed, and I think the second should be "Prevent the user from shutting down" or something <jbicha> yeah, Jasper said the same thing :) <jbicha> wow, 3 different modules to patch, that'll be fun <darkxst> the lockdown is actually set in gnome-session <darkxst> if just patch the shell, then power-off will still fail <darkxst> I will go back to my original idea <darkxst> jbicha: sed -i 's/let multiSession.*$/let multiSession = false/' /root/usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/userMenu.js <jbicha> yeah, that would probably work <darkxst> jbicha, https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/casper/fix-gdm-autologin-lp1046630-fix2/+merge/124566 <darkxst> jbicha, actually that patch also removes 'switch session' did we want to leave that or not? would probably also result in userless login screen anyway <jbicha> darkxst: yeah, that's fine <smartboyhw> Hey jbicha <jbicha> hi <jbicha> oops, I left evolution out of the metapackage <jbicha> if we include it, I don't think there's any way we can keep close to an 800MB image <jbicha> interesting that no one complained yet though about it being missing... <darkxst> jbicha, so how then, would someone access gnome classic from the live CD? <jbicha> darkxst: they could use dconf to change the default session, but yeah it wouldn't be very obvious <darkxst> jbicha, so perhaps we should make ubuntu user show up in gdm and set nopasswd login? <jbicha> well it looks like 'ubuntu' is user 999 which explains why it's not showing up in gdm <jbicha> and I think the 'ubuntu' user intentionally does have a password <darkxst> I suppose it would be better to add an extra option to the first screen ("try shell", "try classic") <darkxst> but that might not be so easy to do <darkxst> finally, the menu bars are fixed in libreoffice! <jbicha> they still are broken in Unity though :( #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-17 <darkxst> lol, thats ok, I dont use unity <jbicha> I guess we'll have to add Evolution, right? <darkxst> I think it would be best <darkxst> but not sure how you will fit it <darkxst> jbicha, is the 800MB limit and an actual requirement to be official flavour? <jbicha> darkxst: nope, Ubuntu 12.04.1 has a 1.5GB DVD image <darkxst> jbicha, well pull evolution in then, it actually looks like it won't add to much to size anyway <smartboyhw> jbicha: Awake? <jbicha> good morning <smartboyhw> Good morn jbicha:) <smartboyhw> jbicha: Now people are praising you in the GNObuntu? thread lol <darkxst> jbicha, I could probably make blue blinds plymouth animation <jbicha> darkxst: oh, cool! Please mention that on the mailing list so that the work isn't needlessly duplicated #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-18 <darkxst> jbicha, I suppose it needs to be finished before beta freeze? <jbicha> not exactly, we can get exceptions all the way until Final Freeze; of course, the sooner the better <darkxst> ok, np, I will have a play with it a bit later today <Pricey> names <smartboyhw> Oh jbicha is not here <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, smartboyhw was looking for you earlier, but /die'd <jbicha> it's rather late in his timezone <jbicha> he's welcome to email the list if he needs something <TheLordOfTime> :) <TheLordOfTime> !gnome-remix <TheLordOfTime> SILENCE UBOT5! <TheLordOfTime> I CONDEMN YOU! <darkxst> jbicha, did you want to keep the ubuntu logo in plymouth theme <jbicha> my instinct is to leave it out, but I haven't thought about it too much <darkxst> jbicha, https://www.dropbox.com/s/7k2aw3vgq8zadlx/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-19%2007%3A15%3A06.png <darkxst> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxkpvfpctaa1k27/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-19%2007%3A16%3A06.png <darkxst> I think it would be best to leave a progress indicator, however if we drop the logo, that particular one isnt great <jbicha> my thinking was that the progress indicator could be the blinds shifting or scrolling across the screen <jbicha> i.e. no dots needed <jbicha> just an idea, I don't know how much work that is to implement, or if I'm even describing it clearly enough <darkxst> oh <darkxst> I suppose that might be possible <jbicha> yeah, sorry for not explaining what I was looking for at all :( <darkxst> atleast in the X11 renderer its a bit jittery <darkxst> i.e. scrolling the image across the screen <darkxst> Its probably just too much work for plymouth to handle (presumably its redrawing the picture each frame :( ) <darkxst> jbicha, I think you would need to create the illusion of moving, by having say 5 images <darkxst> and carefully cross-fading across the images <darkxst> jbicha, so basically I think we stick with the fade-in animation for 12.10 <darkxst> your scrolling blinds will require new artwork, and probably be quite tricky to design <jbicha> what do you mean by fade-in animation? <darkxst> I do have an idea for a progress indicator though, if we are allowed to use ubuntu artwork? <darkxst> my current animation, is like a fast version of the animated wallpaper <jbicha> I believe we can use the ubuntu logo <darkxst> can be color it? <darkxst> I am thinking we could use the circle of friends as an indicator <darkxst> ^logo <jbicha> ummm...maybe <darkxst> something like the orange shaded version of the logo (but in colours from the blinds pallete) <darkxst> and have the colours spinning around the logo <jbicha> you could post screenshots or a video to the list <jbicha> clean and simple is probably best (in other words, my blinds idea was probably too much; I guess there's a reason plymouth boot screen tend to have relatively simple animation) <darkxst> the fade-in works well, except we can't know how long the boot will take :( <darkxst> i.e its start at night blinds and fade through to the bright image <darkxst> hmm video of fade-in or logo indicator? <jbicha> can you fade back to the darker blinds? <darkxst> yes, I could loop it around <darkxst> although that kind of breaks my idea, of its like the computer slowly coming awake <jbicha> I believe Fedora has used a horizontal scrollbar for a few years so they've figured out how to measure boot status to some degree <jbicha> but Ubuntu tends to use a loop #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-19 <darkxst> I watched a few plymouth animations on youtube, and many of them only run to 30% or so, I will try and look for a fedora one <jbicha> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease Fedora 18 Alpha was released today <jbicha> but Fedora uses systemd these days, I'm guessing we should just use a loop for Quantal <darkxst> f17 livecd has a text based plymouth theme, which cut out at 60% progress on my VM <darkxst> jbicha, ok, will make it loop and remove logo and progress indicator then <smartboyhw> Hi jbicha <jbicha> smartboyhw: hi <darkxst> jbicha, made the looped version, but unable to get a video of it <jbicha> if you send the patch, I'll try it out <darkxst> sent <darkxst> I do need to remove all the ubuntu logo/progress code before packaging however <darkxst> jbicha, any chance of getting libcroco bumped to new upstream release before beta freeze? <darkxst> (it fixes some memory leaks in g-s) <TheLordOfTime> thought freeze hit already <jbicha> darkxst: that looks like a bugfix release, so sure we can update it #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-20 <darkxst> yeh its just 2 patches that fix memory leaks <darkxst> hmm user switching seems completely broken <smartboyhw> Ooh! <darkxst> I can't log back into an active session from the switch user screen <darkxst> and to make it even worse, lock screen is not activated when switching, so can just switch VT's to get into an unlocked session <jbicha> darkxst: you mean while using GNOME Shell on GDM? have you restarted GDM since yesterday's updates? <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha <jbicha> aloha <smartboyhw> jbicha: You are in Hawaii? <jbicha> no <smartboyhw> :) <smartboyhw> Hi ricotz <ricotz> smartboyhw, hi <smartboyhw> ricotz: HowÂ´s the artwork? I heard about it <ricotz> smartboyhw, sorry, i can't following you, what? <smartboyhw> Maybe wrong person but <smartboyhw> Anyway forget about it <darkxst> jbicha, yes I have restarted gdm <darkxst> does user switching work for you? <jbicha> I haven't tested that yet, I'm running Unity today <darkxst> well basically I am seeing atleast 2 bugs here <darkxst> plus there is a really bad bug in control-center ;( <darkxst> try clicking on a user's fullname in user settings <darkxst> it becomes editable, but the text is massive <jbicha> darkxst: that bug was fixed (I think yesterday) <darkxst> and try to actually edit, it crashes, control-centre and shell <jbicha> it's a pretty awesome bug, isn't it? <darkxst> yeh, whoever thought a tiny text field could take down the entire session! <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1053666 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1053666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Login to an active session fails from the Switch User Screen" [Undecided,New] #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-21 <darkxst> jbicha, sorted out the user switching bug with halfline <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684594 <ubot5> Gnome bug 684594 in general "slave: fix user switching for consolekit users" [Normal,New] <darkxst> he is requesting a freeze break <jbicha> darkxst: oh great, thanks for following up! <jbicha> I'll package gdm 3.6.0 next week, it might magically make it in before Beta 2 or we can specifically request it be accepted if you think it should go in <jbicha> since the archive is frozen from now until Thursday <jbicha> you subscribe to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-devel-announce, right? so you don't need me telling you these things? <darkxst> I am on annouce <darkxst> probably should subscribe to devel also <jbicha> cool <darkxst> anyway would be good to ensure it lands for beta2 <darkxst> its quite a bad bug really <jbicha> ok, that'll probably be Monday or Tuesday then <jbicha> did you decide what you were going to do about log out in the live session? <jbicha> we probably should have figured that out before beta freeze, but whatever <darkxst> I am not sure, I think we will break casper if we change ubuntu Uid so it shows up in gdm <darkxst> I think the best option would be to add the options to the first ubiquity screen <darkxst> i.e "try shell", "try classic" <jbicha> yeah, the uid isn't likely to be changable, you could ask cjwatson for the why <jbicha> we could patch gdm to start looking for 999 and higher but I don't know... <jbicha> patching ubiquity to add the dual try buttons doesn't sound like something we would get permission to land for beta 2 <jbicha> I'm logged off for a bit... <darkxst> its not even something thats likely to get done in time for beta2 anyway <jbicha> ricotz: are you still around? #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-22 <darkxst> jbicha, seems to be due to yet another ubuntu patch (userless gdm) <darkxst> but should be able to fix it with another casper patch <jbicha> are you sure a Ubuntu patch is responsible? which patch? <darkxst> user filtering patch in accountsservice <darkxst> apparently upstream dropped the user filtering sometime ago <darkxst> however we should be able to just edit login.defs <darkxst> /etc/login.defs <darkxst> I am trying to test it, but can't even get to gdm on the current live cd! <jbicha> haha, I blame you for that ;) <jbicha> you should be able to edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf or you can manipulate stuff in dconf <jbicha> sudo service restart gdm <darkxst> lol, yeh <darkxst> jbicha, did you try the plymouth theme? <jbicha> hmm, I think I forgot to try your latest version <jbicha> this week was crazy, UIFE's from all directions & I'm trying to keep the docs team afloat <darkxst> ah ok <jbicha> part of finishing the docs has meant that I'm mostly stuck with stock Unity for a few more days <jbicha> we should fix the virtualbox 3d driver problem, I think I'll just patch it in Ubuntu since it looks like it's been 2 weeks in Debian's bug tracker without a response <jbicha> we should backport that to precise too, right? <darkxst> jbicha, this was the response to my upstream bug report "Ubuntu 12.10 runs X.org 1.13 and this one is not yet supported by the VirtualBox Guest Additions. And that's the actual reason why the drm module does not load. " <darkxst> I only test them briefly, but if they are working ok, then we can patch it. <darkxst> its not required for precise though (I pretty sure precise liveCD's work as expected) <jbicha> I expect there are already a bunch of precise users trying out quantal from virtualbox <jbicha> or does that not matter, it's just the quantal environment that needs fixing? <darkxst> yeh its the guest drivers <darkxst> although does precise have the same virtualbox version? <darkxst> hmm, worth testing if the 4.1.18 (quantal) drivers work with a 4.1.12 (precise) virtual box host <darkxst> although I guess its not so critical now, with software rendering enabled <darkxst> anyway I gotta run <darkxst> I will look at doing another casper merge soon <darkxst> ricotz, have you been using the new nautilus? <darkxst> if I right click on a file/folder, I do not get a properties option <ricotz> darkxst, properties entry is available here <darkxst> jbicha, which option you think is best re logout/session switching? <jbicha> we can't mess with /etc/login.defs <jbicha> the original casper code had autologin enabled with a delay of 10, we should probably do that <jbicha> *timed login enabled <jbicha> and re-enable log out <jbicha> I guess you're right that gdm itself doesn't enforce the mininum 1000 uid <jbicha> doing that would still require a little bit of work on someone's part to log into GNOME Classic <jbicha> they'd have to know ubuntu is the user and just hit enter for the password <darkxst> jbicha, that (timed) login was to supposed to auto-login them back into the session <darkxst> also timed login doesnt work with user id at 999 (unless change login.defs) <jbicha> right, so those that are confused will get back to a working live environment <jbicha> oh <jbicha> we could ask why the live user can't be uid 1000 <darkxst> well that doesnt really matter, can just edit login.defs with casper, that bit is fine <darkxst> but ask anyway I guess <jbicha> no, we can't edit login.defs with casper without Ubuntu being cool with it <jbicha> I'll ask about it in #ubuntu-installer on Monday, unless you'd prefer to? <darkxst> even if its a gdm only patch? no one else uses gdm right? <jbicha> login.defs isn't gdm specific, but I guess you're talking about editing it just for gdm user on the live install <darkxst> yeh only edit it if gdm is installed <jbicha> but we'll need to ask, maybe ubiquity needs it to be set up a certain way <darkxst> ubiquity will break if we change UID <darkxst> (it is hardcoded to look for UID 999) <darkxst> jbicha, gawk is missing from installed system <darkxst> (which breaks bash command completion <jbicha> are you sure? <jbicha> if that were the case, bash-completion should depend on it <jbicha> I've pretty much installed ubuntu-desktop on top of the GNOME Remix for docs work this week <darkxst> well I do say `service nfs<tab>` <darkxst> and I get a message to install awk #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-23 <jbicha> what about mawk? it's a dependency of ubuntu-minimal <darkxst> no mawk was not installed <jbicha> you don't have ubuntu-minimal? <darkxst> I must have, otherwise system would be completely broken <darkxst> hmm just tried again, and it got it this time <smartboyhw> hi jbicha <jbicha> smartboyhw: howdy <smartboyhw> jbicha: Beta coming in 4 days for UGR? <jbicha> um yeah, something like that <smartboyhw> :) <darkxst> jbicha, I see you found Bug 1007123 (I just marked all those dupes) <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1007123 in gdm (Ubuntu) "package gdm 3.0.4-0ubuntu15 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 128" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007123 <darkxst> what is the correct thing to do here? it seems that prerm does not stop gdm (since it would kill the current Xsession, I believe) <darkxst> then postrm fails since it can't remove the user <darkxst> ^gdm user <darkxst> can you defer postrm somehow? <jbicha> yeah, I'm subscribed to gdm bugs so I get friendly emails when bugs are touched :) <jbicha> actually uninstalling gdm does kill gdm which I think is rather rude as it can cause you to lose data if you weren't expecting it <jbicha> I think Debian manages to have gdm uninstall without errors, otherwise it would be an RC bug there so it's probably worth comparing the Debian packaging with Ubuntu's <darkxst> well the prerm and postrm files are more or less identical #ubuntu-gnome 2012-09-24 <darkxst> jbicha, I can't reproduce that bug on 6585208393, but I did find another bug ;) <jbicha> I thought I still hit the bug when I tried a couple days ago <jbicha> uninstall actually worked; it just gave an error <darkxst> did you get the dm chooser question? <jbicha> if you only have 0 or 1 dm installed, there's no need for it to show the question <darkxst> yeh and then is subsequently fails because of this <darkxst> db_unregister shared/default-x-display-manager || true <darkxst> which should just be <darkxst> db_unregister shared/default-x-display-manager <darkxst> (in gdm.prerm) <jbicha> could you explain why that's wrong? I get confused with boolean logic <jbicha> because if it's wrong, you need to report it to GNOME <jbicha> oops, to Debian <darkxst> well I not entirely sure, the '|| true' is actually supposed to make it always have a return value of 1 <darkxst> however for some reason, its also stopping the question from being unregistered <darkxst> well I not entirely sure, the '|| true' is actually supposed to make it always have a return value of 1 <darkxst> however for some reason, its also stopping the question from being unregistered <everaldo> morning! <aditya_> hello.. <aditya_> i m an indian... so for me its evning.!! :-P <aditya_> Can u help me plzz... <smartboyhw> hi <everaldo> hehe <aditya_> nd...my problem is very silly actually...cn ayone help me??? <jbicha> !ask <ubot5> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience <aditya_> i have gnome shell nd evn in ubuntu i had the same problem dat ma facebook page in both firefox nd chromium doesnt uploads... i mean i takes a lot of time nd have to refresh it a hundred times... whil other sites like youtube nd google nd ol opens in a blink at the same time in a tab...bt y ders a problem only wid fb... i cant understand <aditya_> plzz help me out..!! <jbicha> it's harder to read when you don't spell out words completely... * smartboyhw can't understand the language sorry <aditya_> i am sorry... let me rewrite it.. <jbicha> but no, we don't really troubleshoot Facebook or Firefox or Chromium or Unity here <aditya_> i am a newbie... so can
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