#lubuntu-devel 2015-11-04 <djX3N> hello everyone from lubuntu wily on the raspberry pi 2 :) <ianorlin> wow it had been more than 2 weeks since my last bug report my family life sure has been a mess <djX3N> shh i'm making a screenshot ianorlin :) <djX3N> jk, though, seriously. i kind of know the feeling, though it's a bit different on the fatherhood side of things. <djX3N> back again on the pi. <djX3N> watching a video about how lubuntu 15.10 is broken, ironically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nraL-6GErbk <djX3N> he's complaining pulseaudio needs to be installed. and here i am happily running hdmi audio with no problems. <djX3N> the crazy thing is that the usb wifi dongle worked right out of the box, too. bizarre. <ianorlin> I don't want hdmi and turn it off in uefi and view that as a motherboard feature <djX3N> i thought you had an hdmi display? <ianorlin> yes but I am connected over dvi <ianorlin> and no integreated speakers <djX3N> why don't you like hdmi? <djX3N> tsimonq2: you're probably asleep but hi, from the pi. <ianorlin> I do it is just my speakers would plug into headphone speaker jack <ianorlin> which would just plug into the back of my monitor <djX3N> hdmi audio no workie or just an alsa pita (many non-standard things are) <ianorlin> alsa-pita <djX3N> OH your speakers only input is a mini-jack or whatever they call them <djX3N> i'm honestly shocked this works without doing anything else <ianorlin> yes <djX3N> either flexiondotorg worked some major magic, or something else is going on. <djX3N> omg there's no freaking pulse on here either <djX3N> only output on the BCM2835 card is a PCM. curious <ianorlin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/+bug/1512963 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1512963 in lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings (Ubuntu) "settings allow arbitarly large user pictures which makes the user lock themselves scottashley@example.org. " [Undecided,New] <djX3N> oh wow that's fun <djX3N> was that your discovery? :) <ianorlin> yep <djX3N> good job, man! <ianorlin> I told people not to reproduce on a production machine <djX3N> heheheheh <djX3N> wxl: shorten this https://img.bi/#/Wq7O5rW!TPaSocZVgZ_AG6wurxPYmAd6B8hxHqD15D6ArTVl <djX3N> note to self, don't mind me <djX3N> but check out the search for the 42nd fibonacci at the botom right <djX3N> anywho i'm hitting the hay * ianorlin understands <djX3N> get some sleep, buddy <tsimonq2> wxl = djX3N? <flexiondotorg> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22575/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker/ <flexiondotorg> Happening in a few mins ^^^^^^^^^ <phillw> missed the start, I'll download it once completed <phillw> flexiondotorg: just watched the recording, excellent session. Thanks for the explanations ! #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-05 <flexiondotorg> phillw, Glad you enjoyed it :-) <phillw> Yeah, the feed posted never dropped, even when you were saying people could not see / hear you! <phillw> And, for any future presentations, the lubuntu build works perfectly and is fit for release. I know you want to make another one; but that will become the 'test' release :) #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-06 <wxl> key flexiondotorg what do i need to do to use a hdmiâdvi adapter with the pi2 image? <phillw> wxl: the adapter... we have a discussion on Fb now about adpaters, evidently the amazon one is crap. <phillw> belkin is a trusted make, but their stuff is expensive. I do not mind paying the premium for their build quality. #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-08 <phillw> flexiondotorg: ping re: setting up fs on pi2 <ianorlin> wxl alternates are not building from the 4th <krytarik> ianorlin, wxl: Ftm, http://paste.openstack.org/show/mZXdp4gvR0pia0SuGZsY/ #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-11 <dkessel> hey guys. i read your thread about having meetings again. sounds good! :) <dkessel> at xubuntu, we have a team calender to keep track of meeting dates/times, so people are automatically reminded when the meeting is. <lubu> hello everybody! <lubu> Need some help please! anyone? <phillw> dkessel: Walter has not quite got that far yet :D <tsimonq2> wxl: do we have a lubuntu package set on LP? <phillw> tsimonq2: both lubuntu packages are available via lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop <tsimonq2> phillw: how do I find out what those are from the metapackages? <phillw> tsimonq2: look at the minimal installation wiki page, it lists them. They are used for iso building, so the xenial ones are already created but we do not announce them on that page, as they are test versions and not stable. <tsimonq2> phillw: k thx <phillw> you can also find them listed as part of tasksel as an option to install onto a base ubuntu system. I've not re-written the minimal install page as the way explained there works fine. <tsimonq2> phillw: so this is all the packages(along with base) that are in a default Lubutnu install? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-desktop <tsimonq2> s/Lubutnu/Lubuntu <phillw> yes, for desktop <phillw> we also ship a core meta-package <Unit193> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/lubuntu <Unit193> Packageset. <tsimonq2> ooh thanks <phillw> tsimonq2: do not poke the bot too often, he has a short fuse :D <tsimonq2> :D #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-12 <tsimonq2> ping <tsimonq2> ping <tsimonq2> ping <tsimonq2> ping <tsimonq2> PING <tsimonq2> !hi <tsimonq2> . <Unit193> tsimonq2: ...This isn't exactly a testing channel. <tsimonq2> Unit193: I apolosise, I moved to a PM <tsimonq2> s/apolosise/apologize <lububot> Hi %s! <tsimonq2> YES! <Unit193> !test | tsimonq2 <ubot93> tsimonq2: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test ) <tsimonq2> Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯ <lububot> Hi %s! <tsimonq2> well hey, this is gonna help us in the future, but I will move it to my channel for now #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-15 <tsimonq2> Sorry for all the LP spam, it won't happen again <phillw> wxl_: ping #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-18 <arch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-21 <phillw> LXQt meeting in 10 minutes on #lxde <gilir> Hum .. I feel home :-) <phillw> he he, safe here. I've pinged unit 193 so as to ask him to have a look at the mode set on #phillw. <gilir> phillw, do you have the log about the problem on lxqt-metapakage and lxqt-panel ? <phillw> gilir: I will pull it, it is on a VM so not the easiest to get information from! <gilir> yes :-( <phillw> gilir: is sddm with plfiorini an alternative to openbox? <gilir> phillw, no sddm is an alternative to lightdm <phillw> ah, okies... so still install openbox :) <gilir> yes, I don't plan to use kwin :-p <joern_s> gilir, do you have a minute for me? <phillw> gilir: I've installed shutter, so it there may be a gap in posting up images. For some reason my install is that confused it no longer takes screen shots using any combination of keys +PrtSc <gilir> joern_s, I have 5 for phillw so I can have 1 for you :-) <joern_s> :D <joern_s> I'm still working on generating isos for LXQt (currently Wily) <joern_s> there is some strange behaviour that I don't understand <joern_s> mounting the squashfs works for the live session, but when the user (or the installer) tries to mount it a second time, it doesn't work but fails more or less silently <joern_s> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13313033/ <joern_s> any ideas? <gilir> joern_s, no sorry :-( I don't see anything special in the log <joern_s> that is what makes me nervous <joern_s> my only hint was: <joern_s> [ 19.399266] systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/casper.service:10] Failed to parse input specifier, ignoring: force-tty <joern_s> [ 19.402831] systemd[1]: rofs.mount: Unit is bound to inactive unit dev-loop0.device. Stopping, too. <phillw> gilir: http://phillw.net/lxqtinstall.png <phillw> sorry for delay, shutter decided not to play! <phillw> gilir: is that enough to go on or do you want me to extract any logs / settings for you? <gilir> phillw, I pushed an update to lxqt-panel, if it's still a problem tomorrow, I'll do an install to check it <phillw> gilir: when will the update hit the feed for the meta-package? <gilir> phillw, look at the version number of lxqt-panel, if it's something like 0.10+... it's the updated package <phillw> gilir: dpkg -l reports it is not there <phillw> which, from the error report, makes sense. <phillw> gilir: http://phillw.net/lxqtinstall-force.png <gilir> phillw, I know this one :-/ <gilir> phillw, next update of lubuntu-default-settings will fix this <gilir> it's building so, a couple of hours max <phillw> gilir: cool! that is using the 'add to lubuntu' one... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Installing_LXQt_on_fresh_system still needs a lot of work... (Doesn't pull in the lubuntu art-work for a start) <phillw> and... here's the wolf :D <phillw> redwolf: the stuff about .po and .tl I have a link for the guy to ask on translations. <redwolf> sorries, I'm late. I was out <redwolf> nice! <phillw> redwolf: until he mentioned pootle, it had completely slipped my mind.. anyways, that I can sort you the person out for and gilir agreed to 'sell' you to the guy at LXQt who is doing their design stuff so you can get quickly up to full speed on Qt5 <redwolf> I love that! <redwolf> so I'm his temporary slave now? <phillw> you got sold to two of them :D <redwolf> O.O <phillw> once the logs are posted up, you will see the full meeting and the people's email addys to contact on the two areas. <redwolf> good, anyway I think gilir is going to send me some addresses and things and stuff :) <phillw> yeah, they were in the meeting.... myself and gsilva are volunteered for wiki / docs, and wxl had all the lubuntu testers volunteered.... So, that removes any "them" and "us" :P <redwolf> :) <phillw> gilir: when (roughly) do you expect " next update of lubuntu-default-settings will fix this " to land and be in xenial ? <gilir> phillw, couple of hours <gsilva> Something wrong, phillw ? <phillw> okies, so will it be okay to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Adding_LXQt_to_an_exisiting_lubuntu_installation again? <phillw> gsilva: nope.. will talk very soon :) <gsilva> Sure. Send me an email if I'm not around ;) #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-22 <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help? <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on? I want the newest one, but NOT the daily build. <joern_s> if you want a graphical installer, there is only the normal desktop iso / full install <joern_s> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/ <cimbakahn> lubuntu Standard vs lubuntu-desktop vs lubuntu-core So you are saying out of these 3 only the standard has a graphical installer? <joern_s> lubuntu-desktop is the standard <joern_s> but yes, only lubuntu-desktop has a graphical installer <cimbakahn> I wonder if you can get Wily without getting daily...... <joern_s> sure, use the link I gave you <cimbakahn> Daily means you'll get updates every single day so i don't want that one. <joern_s> the daily isos are for Xenial (16.04) <cimbakahn> Which one do i click on? My computer is 64bit. I want to burn an ISO to a disk. <joern_s> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/lubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso <cimbakahn> You are sure a lot nicer and helpful than the people in hashtag ubuntu. <Unit193> Dude, you asked that last night in both #ubuntu and #lubuntu, getting answers in both.. <joern_s> thanks, cimbakahn <cimbakahn> They weren't reading my questions simply for what was written. And when they did answer me i felt like i was being interrogated. <cimbakahn> Like. How dare me for wanting what i want. <Unit193> No, they were asking you questions so they could answer properly. <cimbakahn> And they didn't explain it as well as joern_s so i could understand. <cimbakahn> I gave them all the information just like i did with joern_s just now. <cimbakahn> I originally thought that you could get a LXDE Lubuntu that was in the middle (with less programs installed by default). Something that was not a BARE minimal, and something that was not a full install with a graphical installer. <cimbakahn> It seems like this is not possible. <cimbakahn> Thank you very much joern_s ! <phillw> cimbakahn: the non-standard installs do require some skills... that is why they are away from the standard page! <cimbakahn> some skills. That probably means there is no graphical installer to make things easier. You would probably have to be smart enough to do it in another way. <phillw> joern_s: after food, I will be checking if julien's fix for lxqt metapackage has worked <cimbakahn> Thank you phillw ! <phillw> cimbakahn: the server installer script is graphic, just no fancy pictures - It asks the same questions and you answer them :) <cimbakahn> So i could burn this to a disk and install it ----> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/lubuntu-desktop <phillw> I'm a fan of alternate installer, it is my very light cross to bear so that lubuntu has a CD sized image for the computers who do not have DVD reader and cannot boot from USB stick. <phillw> cimbakahn: no, that is simply the list of what is on the lubuntu-desktop image. <cimbakahn> I understand now. <phillw> cimbakahn: if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Full_install.2C_minimal_install_or_core_install.3F you will see the list of what is -desktop (which is what we ship as ISO images) and what you *can* select (core) if you use the minimal install route. <cimbakahn> My computer can't boot from USB. That is why i have to burn OS installs to a disk. <cimbakahn> I am just tired of these operating systems that give me all these programs that i don't want. I have to uninstall alot of programs, and replace them with the ones i want. <phillw> cimbakahn: if it can read a dvd, then you can use the standard desktop image. If it can only read a CD then you will have to use the alternate image. It is not a scary install, just to keep it CD sized all the funky stuff for installing is not there. <cimbakahn> I use DVD-R disks. <phillw> cimbakahn: if you want to start from scratch, and add things on yourself I'd suggest the minimal route with lubuntu core. that will give you a working system that you can log onto and then add whatever applications you want on top of it. If you choose the minimal install (netboot) route, the installer will offer you a full list of what you want to add to it.. lubuntu minimal is on that list. <phillw> But, that installer will not work on WiFi as the WiFi system is added on later if you want. <cimbakahn> I need something that detects my WIFI right away, so that would probably not be for me. Unfortunately. <phillw> yes, do not get caught out. <phillw> you would need ehthernet link to begin and then issue <phillw> apt-get install wireless-tools <phillw> for it to install the WiFi stuff. <cimbakahn> If you choose the minimal install (netboot) route, the installer will offer you a full list of what you want to add to it.. lubuntu minimal is on that list. Would i be able to understand the things on that list? I have been using linux for a year now. ethernet link? I have a wired connection, is this what you mean/ <cimbakahn> Is wireless-tools all i would need to install for WIFI? <phillw> cimbakahn: from what I have read, yes. It is a meta-package which will pull in all that is needed <cimbakahn> I think i'll just use this instead to be on the safe side ----> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/lubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso <cimbakahn> I am looking at Lubuntu 15.10 videos now. <cimbakahn> You know my collegues and i use Mumble to communicate vocally. Why doesn't more people use Mumble? It would be faster and easier to understand people. <phillw> Mumble!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Feet <cimbakahn> Yes. Happy Feet was a cute movie. <cimbakahn> Yes. Mumble is cross platform. It allows you to speak vocally to other people. I love it. I have my own channel. It is usually in synapticPM. <phillw> wb redwolf <redwolf> o/ <redwolf> sorry, my network is being odd #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-24 <cimbakahn> Is this correct? ----> https://paste.teknik.io/2437 Or should each line have a ; Semi-colon after it? <krytarik> cimbakahn: This channel is for development, not support - and you are crossposting, too. <cimbakahn> What is crossposting? Is it a bad thing to do here? <phillw> cimbakahn: yes on both counts #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-29 <tsimonq2> wxl: I know it isn't important at this stage, but I am doing the ISO QA tests for Lubuntu Xenial image 20151129 <tsimonq2> wxl: but either way, why *not* do it? <tsimonq2> Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯ <tsimonq2> wxl: bug 1432276 is fixed, not present anymore in Xenial <ubot93> bug 1432276 in lxsession (Ubuntu) "lxsession-default-apps updating database window never closes" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432276 #lubuntu-devel 2015-11-30 <wxl> thx for yr help tsimonq2 <tsimonq2> wxl: I r8 ur txting skllz 8/8 m8 <tsimonq2> :D <tsimonq2> wxl: looks like we still have 2 PPC test case sets for 20151129. Either it's so early in the day that they are going to reset soon, or they should be reset along with the other ones, as I see Xubuntu has reset already. <tsimonq2> wxl: so please just take a look #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-02 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: libonig [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.1.1-2] (lubuntu) <Wulf> Good Morning! <wxl> morn <wxl> er <wxl> after noon now <wxl> and much later for you i see :) <Wulf> I'd like to build my own lubuntu image to include a few custom packages. Where can I find the necessary config files / scripts / instructions? <Wulf> wxl: I'm sure it's Morning for someone here <wxl> heh launchpad does all the heavy lifting for us <wxl> you might look at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18886926/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-image <wxl> also Kamilion don't you have scripts for creating your own custom lubuntu image? <Wulf> wxl: launchpad builds images? <wxl> Wulf: well, the machinery it controls does <wxl> Wulf: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization <wxl> Wulf: also https://askubuntu.com/questions/48535/how-to-customize-the-ubuntu-live-cd <Wulf> wxl: I don't really want to use an existing ISO <wxl> seems like it would save you effort <Wulf> wxl: I'm hoping that whatever is used to build the official images is easy enough to use for me <wxl> if you want to see something cool here's all the machinery on launchpad https://launchpad.net/builders <wxl> Wulf: if anyone publishes that it would be the release team. see #ubuntu-release <Wulf> wxl: so what does the lubuntu team do if not provide configs / scripts to build the lubuntu images? <wxl> Wulf: change components to the seed <wxl> same as all the other teams do #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-03 <Kamilion> someone pinged? <wxl> Kamilion: you have build scripts for your images right? <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core/tree/master/buildscripts <Kamilion> sure do <wxl> ^^ Wulf there you go. not what ubuntu uses, but it's what someone else uses to make a custom image. <Kamilion> uses ubuntu-customizer to unpack the iso, the squashfs, then chroot inside. A hook script then (in my case) installs git, grabs that repo, and starts messing with packages and running scripts. <Kamilion> then the process is reversed, the kernel and initrd (and xen) are extracted from the rootfs, the rootfs is squashfs'd, and stuffed back on the .ISO. all the other files like the checksums and such are regenerated too. <Kamilion> it's inelegant, but it works. <Kamilion> right now, I do it in two steps <Kamilion> the first step is taking a release lubuntu image and trimming it <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core/blob/master/buildscripts/xenial/00-build-minilubuntu-iso-from-source.sh <Kamilion> which will replace firefox with qupzilla, and purge the 'unnessicary' desktop packages (for my use case; having a word processor on a server's desktop is not helpful, and because I use TORAM=YES, it's also a waste of memory. <Kamilion> also rip out most of the media libraries, but leave a couple 'standard' ones <Kamilion> so the browser can still play HTML5 video formats, but that's about it. <Kamilion> at a high level, I remove: apport, abiword, gnumeric, sylpheed, transmission, mtpaint, firefox, audacious, and light-locker. <Kamilion> at the moment, with all of that trimmed out and qt5 installed for qupzilla, the minilubuntu iso scottashley@example.org <Kamilion> which is approximately 1.9GB of files compressed. <Kamilion> the ISO I build on top of that one ends scottashley@example.org, containing ~3.8GB of files compressed. <wxl> why don't you build it from scratch? it seems that was his primary interest, for some reason <Kamilion> but that's got the whole build system and kernel headers for the booted kernel and all the -dev packages for bunches of C libs that pip wants for building various things like uwsgi. <Kamilion> wxl: after talking to a lawyer, i was basically told that respinning the ISO was something canonical couldn't do anything about, as long as I didn't name my project *buntu. <wxl> Kamilion: what do you consider the disadvantages in starting from scratch, were that to have been a requirement? <Kamilion> i download the ISO over bittorrent, and use international package mirrors during my build process. <Kamilion> none <Kamilion> however, I ran into lots of problems getting a working configuration <Kamilion> because what's on the ISO isn't what's in the repository, nessicarily <Kamilion> and if you remove or purge the wrong thing, everything breaks. <Kamilion> I was never able to identify what it is in canonical's seed builder that makes things work, but the only thing I can think of is there's some scripts behind the scenes assembling things correctly there with all kinds of bugfix checks <Kamilion> for example, somewhere lubuntu makes some customizations to settings that aren't part of the packages themselves and I have *no idea where*. <wxl> did you check to see if release team publishes all that stuff? <Kamilion> when I debootstrap from scratch, I'm missing all kinds of configuration that, sets plymouth to use the lubuntu bootsplash, sets the default desktop session to load, basically anything having to do with alternatives *sucks* when you're rolling from scratch <Kamilion> it's perfectly adequate for rolling CLI stuff <Kamilion> but for having a working live environment 'just fire up' like lubuntu does, nothing beats working off the release ISOs. <Kamilion> you know everything is already in a sane configuration <Kamilion> and you can test packages being removed with synaptic to see if it breaks the running environment or screams about removing half the system <Kamilion> plus there's all sorts of other interactions, pulling in a package pulls in a bunch of libraries which enable functionality elsewhere, and then removing the package you installed doesn't remove the libraries which still have dependants <Kamilion> rabbitvcs is a good example of that <Kamilion> installing it will demand that *SOME* vcs it can control is around, and defaults to hg, last I checked, so one must install git before or during the same transaction... <Kamilion> so there's just all these weird corner cases that were solved somehow for the releases *shrug* <Kamilion> and another weird one, something keeps pulling in qt4-doc but doesn't really care if it's removed afterwards. That package doesn't compress well and inflates the ISO by about 100MB so one of the last things I do in my build process is remove it. <Kamilion> and make sure it's gone >.< <Kamilion> plus other little things like that; figuring out some optional package doesn't compress well (and sucks 8-14MB in with it) can be omitted <Kamilion> about the only thing lxqt needs to satisfy me is a port of the gnome-disks tool to QT <Kamilion> if I have that, I can live without all the rest of the gtk universe <wxl> has anyone looked at systemd performance in lubuntu versus other flavors? it seems i hear a lot of comments about boot time, but haven't necessarily heard this elsewhere <tsimonq2> wxl: Hm, not sure. I'll look into it this weekend. <tsimonq2> wxl: Also, @LubuntuOfficial (aka me) mentioned you in a tweet. :P <tsimonq2> wxl: And @popey retweeted that tweet. <wxl> tsimonq2: let me know what you find out <wxl> tsimonq2: also OMG I AM FAMOUS <tsimonq2> wxl: XD <tsimonq2> wxl: Ok, will do. :) #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-04 <teward> wxl: famousness begets people bothering you all the time <teward> so keep that in mind :P <teward> s/begets/brings/ <tsimonq2> wxl: And @ATHoneycutt <wxl> SO FAMOUS EVERYONE RT NOW <tsimonq2> wxl: And @tsimonq2. :P <teward> but not me <teward> cba to logon to twitter at the moment <ahoneybun> I am not famous, yet <tsimonq2> Remember, we're all famous, if everyone believed Softpedia. <tsimonq2> XD <tsimonq2> wxl: "Zesty live images will no longer have .pyc files stripped by default - flavour developers please take note" - in my honest opinion we should have this reverted <tsimonq2> wxl: For us, space is vital. <tsimonq2> wxl: Well, it's vital, but I want to do some benchmarks with it both enabled and disabled. See if the speed increase is worth the size hit. <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll get back to you this weekend. <wxl> tsimonq2: i see two ways of scottashley@example.org. one we continue to try to make the image small and continue to struggle with it. that suggests we should go for the stripping. on the other hand, because we continue to struggle with it, i really think we should just give up the dumb struggle. it's hard to upgrade cpu, but usb drives are a dime a dozen. <wxl> tsimonq2: tl;dr my vote is to go with the release team's decision. you should bring this up to the mailing list. <Unit193> Except for those computers that don't boot from USB, of course... <wxl> mini.iso then <Unit193> So basically, sucks to be them. :D <wxl> pretty much, but what's the other solution? <wxl> make everyone suffer because of a few? <Unit193> Wasn't really saying that, just sucks to be them. ~20MB isn't a whole lot, moreso if it's a noticable difference. <tsimonq2> redwolf: HEY, where's our Lenny Yak t-shirts? XD <tsimonq2> bug 1623602 <ubot93> bug 1623602 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "lubuntu-core should depend on policykit-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623602 <tsimonq2> wxl: wth is this? ^ #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-11 <tsimonq2> wxl: Bueno, gracias <wxl> np <wxl> finally catching up on emails <wxl> nai <alaint> Hi, I was working with 15.04 and few days agon I upgraded to 16.04. I used gpsd with navigation software, with this new release it does not work properly. <alaint> I used the same /dev/default/gpsd file unfortunately you can't leave the DEVICE section like this DEVICES="" allowing gpsd to look for all /dev/ttyUSBn ports. <alaint> The issue is that I get two ports for GPS and AIS. I don not get the 2nd working, and when th computer goes for hibernate gpsd do not start again. <alaint> Please Help. #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-12 <lynorian> wait man command not found if I install zesty ... <lynorian> what should I file the bug against <lynorian> no command not found either <tsimonq2> O_______O #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-14 <wxl> tsimonq2: do you know anything about OBI/9w? <wxl> i note the images are not hosted on canonical infrastructure and that said we should probably jettison those <tsimonq2> Hope <tsimonq2> *Nope <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods#Alternative_installers <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah, Purge The Hell Out Of It. <tsimonq2> In one button. :P #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-15 <lynorian> bug 1641783 <ubot93> bug 1641783 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) " man or command not found commands not installed by alternate installerer. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641783 <lynorian> wxl might be good if you could look into that I am going to run errands and see my dad * tsimonq2 assigns to himself <tsimonq2> !info manpages-posix <tsimonq2> !info manpages-posix zesty <ubot93> manpages-posix (source: manpages-posix): Manual pages about using POSIX system. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2013a-1 (zesty), package size 907 kB, installed size 992 kB <tsimonq2> wxl: Pinged infinity about that bug, those should be part of the standard tasksel install, no? <wxl> i'd suspect so yes <tsimonq2> wxl: Damn it Phill, come on, set up Alternates right. :P XD <wxl> he had nothing to do with it <tsimonq2> I was kidding. <wxl> i doubt he contributed a single character of code, ever <tsimonq2> OH SHIT XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <wxl> !language | tsimonq2 <ubot93> tsimonq2: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList <tsimonq2> Bah <tsimonq2> lynorian: Thank you very much for finding this out. :) <lynorian> yeah this would still even be wanted for lxqt <tsimonq2> wxl: And I always wondered why Phill said that Alternate images install faster and take up less space... it's because the standard *and* minimal tasks are not being selected by tasksel! <tsimonq2> /o\ <tsimonq2> lynorian: I would consider this a very urgent thing to fix. <lynorian> although this is our problem not ubuntu servers problem they still got man with standard serever utilities <wxl> tsimonq2: hahhaah oops. XD and the minimal was NEVER there? #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-16 <tsimonq2> wxl: Yep. XD <wxl> did anyone go to the uos session on i386/ppc? i couldn't make it <lynorian> wxl I did <lynorian> One big problem for i386 is people saying firefox support will dropped for i386 in the 18.04 support timeline <lynorian> nto sure about qupzilla i386 support <lynorian> I did find out qupzilla works well on powerpc <lynorian> They are doubtful 18.04 will have powerpc support and they claim that lack of upstream is a really big problem <lynorian> with X and stuff <lynorian> I asked for a link about the firefox 32 bit plans but I could not find it searching <lynorian> worried mainly about lack of web browser support is a main thing in the meeeting <wxl> lynorian: who brought up those concerns primarily? bdmurray? someone else on release team? <lynorian> dhobach I think was a lot of it <lynorian> and pitti worried about maintence load and stuff <lynorian> wxl I don't think bdmurray was there <wxl> oh weird it was his thing <wxl> i'd be a little less concerned about dholbach than pitti <lynorian> and flexiondotorg was there for part of it <wxl> did he have anything to say in favor of i386? * flexiondotorg is here <wxl> oh hai :) <wxl> your 2Â¢ then? <flexiondotorg> Just reading the back log. <flexiondotorg> i386 was not discussed much. lynorian has summarised it well. <lynorian> yeah there were hangout problems at the begginng <flexiondotorg> I was in the IRC from the begining. <wxl> i see <flexiondotorg> And there was several mentioned of Lubuntu and Ubuntu MATE. <wxl> honestly, and i'm sure this will disappoint you, flexiondotorg, but i'm ready to let ppc go <wxl> but i have great concerns about i386 <flexiondotorg> Some random was speaking for both projects, and I decided to join the Hangout. <flexiondotorg> wxl, I am ready to let it go to. <flexiondotorg> wxl, We should jump together. * wxl agrees <flexiondotorg> Well, that was easy. <wxl> :) <flexiondotorg> For what release? <wxl> well we have to support the LTSs <wxl> so when 16.04 is done <flexiondotorg> So we could drop it from 17.04? <wxl> i made a decision a while back to support PPC only on LTSs <lynorian> Yeah it has been really hard getting Powerpc bugs fixed was a main thing discussed <flexiondotorg> lynorian, Indeed. <flexiondotorg> wxl, So you haven't released PowerPC for 16.10? <lynorian> no we did not <wxl> flexiondotorg: correct <flexiondotorg> Interesting. <flexiondotorg> And it sounds like you will not release an 18.04 or PowerPC? <wxl> correct <flexiondotorg> So Lubuntu have effectively made their last PowerPC release then. <flexiondotorg> I think there is more value in focus in arm devices that PowerPC. <flexiondotorg> *than <wxl> flexiondotorg: that was my hope. i've discussed it in the past. <wxl> flexiondotorg: the thing that really needed to happen was something upstream. with debian removing it as a release architecture, that kind of seals the deal. <lynorian> The firefox dropping all i386 could be a big problem <wxl> yeah i agree <wxl> that's an issue <wxl> there's no i386 chrome <lynorian> I wonder how long qupzilla will still work for i386 <lynorian> but that will be once we switch to lxqt <wxl> chromium is still i386 tho right? <flexiondotorg> wxl So shall we draft an announcement that Lubuntu and Ubuntu MATE are going to drop PowerPC support? <wxl> flexiondotorg: i think so. i'll run it past julien and make sure he's on board and then we'll do it <wxl> flexiondotorg: if we can get it in before this cycle really starts that will save you guys some effort/time <flexiondotorg> wxl, Do you want to put out more-or-less the same words? <wxl> flexiondotorg: i would say so <flexiondotorg> Yes, need to do it before the first Alphas. <flexiondotorg> OK. <wxl> seems chromium is targeted specifically at amd64 https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/quick-start-guide <flexiondotorg> I'll draft something and share it with you guys. <flexiondotorg> wxl, Although also had some armhf love. <wxl> niiice <wxl> oh derp that's chromium-os <flexiondotorg> wxl, Should we run this by the Tech Board? <wxl> flexiondotorg: might not be a terrible idea. i doubt they'll have anything to say. <flexiondotorg> I think they will be fine with it. <flexiondotorg> They did say it was the flavour leads decision. <lynorian> yes that is what I remember as well <wxl> !info chromium-browser zesty <ubot93> chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 53.0.2785.143-0ubuntu1.1307 (zesty), package size 59713 kB, installed size 231165 kB <wxl> so https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux_build_instructions.md makes it clear that current development of chromium has removed support for i386 <wxl> that said, we may be out of a browser <wxl> it will be interesting to see if firefox is dropping i386 support or if gecko/spidermonkey are dropping i386 support <wxl> or maybe more generally the whole mozilla application framework <lynorian> Well I don't know about qupzilla <lynorian> but I am a bit biased in liking qupzilla <wxl> it uses qtwebengine <lynorian> does that mean no i386? <lynorian> their is a current i386 package in repos <wxl> no it means my question is irrelevant to qupzilla :) <lynorian> ugh is there no i386 qtwebengine <wxl> well <wxl> that's based on the wikipedia page <wxl> might be wrong <wxl> libqtwebkit <lynorian> well the new version uses qtwebengine which is not in the repos yet <wxl> oh? hm <lynorian> as latest is 1.8.9 <wxl> lynorian: could you follow up with qupzilla and see if you can figure out what their plans for support are? i'm work on firefox a bit <wxl> from what i can tell there's no discussion of dropping i386, but trying to code for specific cpu extensions that could remove a subset of old (and thus i386) cpus https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/10/sse2-support-in-firefox-users/ <wxl> !info firefox trusty <ubot93> firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 49.0.2+build2-0ubuntu156.14.161.142 (trusty), package size 43371 kB, installed size 102113 kB <wxl> !info firefox precise <ubot93> 'precise' is not a valid distribution: liquorix, partner, stable, testing, tor, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, vanir, videolan, virtualbox, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed, zesty, zesty-backports, zesty-proposed <wxl> bah <wxl> what that article doesn't explain is that of all the linux versions of firefox reported, 41.3% are on i386 <wxl> so to remove i386 entirely would be actually very bad for them <wxl> that telemetry has been going since before precise <wxl> i.e. for our sake, it should be fairly accurate #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-17 <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll let you know when QtWebEngine gets in the archive. That's part of the whole Qt 5.7.1 thing. <tsimonq2> lynorian: ^ <lynorian> ty tsimonq2 #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-22 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: exo [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.11.2-1] (lubuntu, xubuntu) <tsimonq2> !info exo <ubot93> Package exo does not exist in zesty <tsimonq2> O__o <lynorian> wxl I think the abiword flashing bug is back and worse than ever <lynorian> nevermind found it #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-24 <dggdfgdgd> resolve shorter installation problems> run lubuntu> bring wagon internet> open the console> write "apt install system-config-lvm" and "swap-off -a" IDK why, guys but could not install encrypted partition before... Only after this latest release was installed (use 16.10 x86_64) maybe im dumb <krytarik> dggdfgdgd: #lubuntu for support. #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-26 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: lubuntu-artwork [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.65] (lubuntu) -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New: accepted lubuntu-artwork [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.65] #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-28 <tsimonq2> wxl: Bug 1645068 <ubot93> bug 1645068 in lxde-common (Ubuntu) "Merge lxde-common 0.99.2-2 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1645068 <wxl> i noticed <tsimonq2> wxl: Bueno <wxl> i don't know i understand LStranger's final note tho <wxl> i mean he says we can get rid of it, and then he says we need to add the keybindings back. how does he expect that to happen? <wxl> maybe in openbox-lxde-session? <tsimonq2> Just pinged Julien via that stupid FB thing. I asked him to clarify. <wxl> tsimonq2: hahahah no thanks <wxl> oops wrong channel <wxl> tsimonq2: want to walk me through the process of doing that merge? <tsimonq2> wxl: Oh god. I'm not even sure on my process yet. :P <wxl> tsimonq2: well how did you get the deb diff? <tsimonq2> wxl: Hacky this, this makes sense that, you know, working through it hackily and triple checking the result. :) <wxl> tsimonq2: well share your process/notes with me and i'll help you make sense out of it <tsimonq2> wxl: Tomorrow please? I have some homework to finish up then I need some sleep. <wxl> tsimonq2: sure. thx for the help! <tsimonq2> wxl: No problem, have a nice night. :) <wxl> you, too, tsimonq2 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed alsamixergui from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed directfb from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed gnome-icon-theme-symbolic from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed libbinio from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed fltk1.1 from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed libdca from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed light-locker-settings from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed lubuntu-software-center from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed jack-audio-connection-kit from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed linux-wlan-ng from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added mpg123 to lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added vte to lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Removed unico from lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added youtube-dl to lubuntu in zesty -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added mpv to lubuntu in zesty #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-29 <tsimonq2> O____________________________O #lubuntu-devel 2016-11-30 <b_b> hi <b_b> i'd like to propose small changes to Box8 theme <b_b> (mainly for usage with unity) <b_b> how can i propose my patches ? <b_b> hi again... <lynorian> b_b in launchpad is one way <b_b> hi lynorian <b_b> 'k i got an account but i've never used their cvs <b_b> or should i just open a bug and propose a patch , <b_b> ? <lynorian> Yes you can open a bug on launchpad <b_b> can't find a way on this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art <b_b> strange, i'm pretty sure that i've seen a way top open an issue there some times ago <b_b> and, just in case, i'm logged :) #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-01 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.65.2 => 0.65.3] (lubuntu) #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-02 <lubot> Markus MÃ¼ller was added by: Markus MÃ¼ller <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Markus MÃ¼ller, Welcome! <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @Markus MÃ¼ller, o/ <lubot> <Markus MÃ¼ller> Thanx <wxl> @tsimonq2: GET SET UP FOR GCI <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> O.O <wxl> @VikingRedwolf you could also be a mentor <tsimonq2> wxl: YOU TOO <wxl> you could do some marketing/design/art stuff <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I do not do GCI, I do CGI <tsimonq2> wxl: Also *cough* *cough* Lubuntu.net something or other *cough* <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> :P <wxl> @tsimonq2: i already replied back to popey and said to sign me up so get on it <wxl> shaddddup <tsimonq2> wxl: I did too <wxl> oh <wxl> hm <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I can only do two things in front of my computer, and one of them is wallpapers / icons <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ._. <lubot> <Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1245.mp4 <wxl> the other thing is reading <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> emm yes, that's it <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> reading <lubot> <Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1246.mp4 <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> oh, sorry, wxl, I always forget this is a public logged channel <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> .___. * wxl facepalms * wxl is still blocking 9090 at work, soooooooo <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> why is that? <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> fascism! <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> free all the ports! <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1247.mp4 #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-03 <lubot> shugal was added by: shugal <lubot> <tsimonq2> @shugal, Welcome! <lubot> <shugal> Thanks! Iâm about to start using Lubuntu again (after trying out Peppermint) so I thought, why not join your channel? ð <lubot> <tsimonq2> :D <lubot> <shugal> So is this where you discuss development only? <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yep <lubot> <tsimonq2> Although we aren't sticklers if you have a problem and are willing to meet us halfway to get it solved ;) <lubot> <acheronuk> @shugal, Allegedly..... <lubot> <shugal> Sure thing. Iâm definitely not an expert but im interested in the future of Lubuntu. <lubot> <tsimonq2> ð <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @shugal, o/ <lubot> <shugal> @acheronuk, âOnlyâ ð <lubot> <tsimonq2> Lol <lubot> <tsimonq2> Anyways, Bionic Beaver will be great :D <lubot> <shugal> Release date? <lubot> <shugal> Fantastic name! <genii> !schedule <genii> Hm <lubot> <tsimonq2> @shugal, Mid to late April, this will be the LTS :D <genii> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule <lubot> <shugal> (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1266 <Alex__> hi <tsimonq2> Hello <Alex__> I'm having problems installing lubuntu on a virtualBox <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> how's that? <Alex__> The screen goes like having noise, and I can't see nothing <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> can you stop the machine now? <Alex__> yes, closing the windoe <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> open the settings of that machine when you can <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> and try a diferent configuration for the display settings <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> use 2D or 3D acceleration, just for trying <Alex__> doing <Alex__> wait. please <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ð¶ <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> sorry, I'm assuming that you're using VirtualBox <tsimonq2> Regardless, this should go to #lubuntu. <tsimonq2> !support <tsimonq2> :) <ubot93> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I know :) <Alex__> yes I do <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> wait, I was here for the beer! <Alex__> but stills the same problem <Alex__> should I change the memory size for video? <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> yes, try changing everything. I had problems once, solved playing with those settings. I' mafraid there's much I can do <Alex__> ok, thanks <lubot> <ShiBonCip> @VikingRedwolf, 17.10 ? <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> BUT <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> try going to IRC <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> and if the problem persists, use askubuntu.com #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-04 <lubot> matheus_ferraz was added by: matheus_ferraz <lubot> oMarceloVentura was removed by: oMarceloVentura <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @oMarceloVentura, o/ <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @oMarceloVentura, ð¢ <lubot> reamann was removed by: reamann <lubot> <acheronuk> what did you say? <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @reamann, ð± <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1291.mp4 <lubot> <matheus_ferraz> good afternoon, guys! <lubot> Does anyone of you have any kind of difficulty programming Java and PHP using LXDE? <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Schyken would know, he's the only person who does that kind of programming ;) <lubot> <Schyken> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1296.mp4 #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-05 <lubot> <ShiBonCip> @VikingRedwolf, A viking doesn't cry <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @ShiBonCip, he does if the raping / pillaging / burning process fails ð <lubot> <ShiBonCip> noted <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Morning! ð <lubot> <acheronuk> Or if he drops his axe on his foot <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> true <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> you know the struggle #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-07 <lubot> <Hyuuga_Neji> (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1327 <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @Hyuuga_Neji, O.o <lubot> Morzaka was added by: Morzaka <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @Morzaka, o/ <lubot> <Morzaka> somebody helpð¢ <lubot> <Morzaka> (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/rANaijD.jpg <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> that's suitable for Ubuntu support <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> have you tried in askubuntu.com or #ubuntu at IRC? <lubot> <Morzaka> ok, thank's <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> you're welcome <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I say because this is not a support channel. here are all the support ways: http://lubuntu.me/support/ <lubot> Morzaka was removed by: Morzaka <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1332.mp4 <lubot> <Wolfenprey> lol that was fast <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> yup. he was in a hurry :) #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-08 <lubot> frank888 was removed by: frank888 <lubot> <ShiBonCip> @Morzaka, paid version of atom? <lubot> <ShiBonCip> @VikingRedwolf, then no more tears * tsimonq2 changed the topic of #lubuntu-devel to: Lubuntu QA/Development | Lubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) released! http://lubuntu.me/artful-released/ | Now testing Bionic Beaver dailies | [M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M <tsimonq2> V[M# <tsimonq2> Ughhhhh <tsimonq2> What the heck irssi <tsimonq2> (not at all intentional) * tsimonq2 changed the topic of #lubuntu-devel to: Lubuntu QA/Development | Lubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) released! http://lubuntu.me/artful-released/ | Now testing Bionic Beaver dailies |http://lubuntu.me | Support: #lubuntu (NOT here) | Offtopic chat: #lubuntu-offtopic | This channel is bridged to Telegram (https://t.me/lubuntudevel) and Matrix (#lubuntu:disroot.org) | This channel is LOGGED: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com <lubot> <tsimonq2> Bionic Beaver dailies, fresh off the press! http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-daily-builds-now-available-to-download-518451.shtml <lubot> @mariusnestor great article as always :) <lubot> <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/UUjaK22.jpg Screenshot of my Lubuntu Next system ;) #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-09 <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I don't like the wallpaper ð <lubot> <tsimonq2> .___. <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ð <lubot> <Wolfenprey> @tsimonq2, Seems nice! <lubot> <tsimonq2> I think so :D <lubot> <Wolfenprey> Wallpaper sucks, but... Its easy to fix <lubot> <Wolfenprey> XD <lubot> <Wolfenprey> Just kidding, i like the default Lubuntu wallpapers <lubot> <tsimonq2> hehehehehehehehehe :) <lubot> <Wolfenprey> There is a place with al the past wallpapers? <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Wolfenprey, @VikingRedwolf would know. <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Aye, tis <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> https://lubuntuofficial.deviantart.com/ <lubot> <Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:9090//file_1411.mp4 <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ð <lubot> <ShiBonCip> @tsimonq2, looks clean is that qterminal or lxterminal one? <lubot> <tsimonq2> @ShiBonCip, QTerminal #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-10 <tsimonq2> . #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-11 -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: libsdl2 (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.0.4+dfsg1-2ubuntu2 => 2.0.4+dfsg1-2ubuntu156.14.161.142] (lubuntu, ubuntukylin) #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-13 <m4sk1n> hello, will there be any lubuntu (next)-related tasks on gci2017? <wxl> yep <m4sk1n> :) <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> (New chat photo, 640x640) https://i.imgur.com/E9vDXFz.jpg <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> .___. <lubot> <Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, Awesome. <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> thank you! ð <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> More Lennys here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Lenny <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, @wxl23 LENNY BEAVER! <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Aye! <lubot> <Wolfenprey> Some of the designs of Lenny are incredible <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> thank you very much <lubot> <Wolfenprey> I remember the first time i see Lennybear, and was like, what the...??? <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> :) <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> yup, it was to celebrate some gay parade somewhere <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Lubuntu always liked diversity <lubot> <Wolfenprey> and thats awesome <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> and maybe... there will come a Drag Lenny <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ;) <lubot> <Wolfenprey> Lenny for everyone and for all <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> indeed! <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf You should put Lenny in the wallpaper somewhere ;) <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> not recommended to use the mascot. Ubuntu did this release and they're like "shit, what have I done" XD <lubot> <Wolfenprey> XD <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> there're lots of reasons to keep the official wallpaper... calmed <lubot> <Wolfenprey> maybe for an alternative wallpaper <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> maybe :) <lubot> <Wolfenprey> In my case, i prefer a "calmed" wallpaper like you say <lubot> <Wolfenprey> it gives a more professional look <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> yes. using the mascot makes it a bit childish <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> and some people never change the wallpaper, so they need something simple and uncluttered to work <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> after all, it's a "wall paper" <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> you're watching it every day <lubot> <Wolfenprey> yep <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Maybe you should make a couple wallpapers and ship with them by default <lubot> <tsimonq2> Would go good with a pet project I'm working on ;) <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> huh? <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, It's a secret :P <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> O.O <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Schyken knows all ð <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> O.O! <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @Schyken do tell! <wxl> @VikingRedwolf two problems: it doesn't look bionic and wtf with the weaponry? <wxl> @VikingRedwolf also i suggest a furry Lenny for @tsimonq2 <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ð <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> It's a SABDFL thing. Inspired by movies like Universal Soldier. <lubot> <Wolfenprey> Oh my <lubot> <Wolfenprey> I love that movie <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> But the furry thing... Hmm... Who knows. <wxl> awww come on <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @Wolfenprey, Mark too ð <wxl> it would be funny especially if it was a penguin fursuit it had on <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> ð <wxl> @VikingRedwolf here's a furry beaver for your consideration. i'm sure @tsimonq2 will love it, too. :) https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Barkley_Beaver <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> love the plaid. thanks, bub <lubot> <Michael_Martins> @VikingRedwolf, ðð½ #lubuntu-devel 2017-11-15 <qwererfrrthyty> Check can't normally install on VB. All the time of the error. Checksum iso in order. VB 5.1.30: chipset ICH9. 2d,3d disable. ÐÐµÐ·ÑÐ¼ÑÐ½Ð½ÑÐ¹2.JPG after installation and reboot. Host Windows. https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9yc81xr2kxf6m2/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8969mkfhiavhags/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B92.JPG?dl=0 h <qwererfrrthyty> ttps://www.dropbox.com/s/jozrcenx4hkvvn4/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B93.JPG?dl=0 <tsimonq2> !support <ubot93> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com <lubot1> <VikingRedwolf> O.o <qwererfrrthyty> support not neen for me, need install lubuntu in vb Host Windows VB 5.1.30 and see what we see <qwererfrrthyty> need <wxl> needed help installing = support <qwererfrrthyty> ÐÐµÐ·ÑÐ¼ÑÐ½Ð½ÑÐ¹.JPG The same and in Xu. Lu, Xu, 17.10 64 Downloaded today <tsimonq2> qwererfrrthyty: Please go to #ubuntu for support. <tsimonq2> qwererfrrthyty: This is offtopic for this channel. <wxl> qwererfrrthyty: ..which means you won't get the help you're looking for. <qwererfrrthyty> no inglish not my lang. I use https://translate.yandex.ru/?lang=en-ru&text=Downloaded%20today <qwererfrrthyty> english <Unit193> !ru <ubot93> ÐÐ¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»ÑÐ¹ÑÑÐ° Ð½Ð°Ð±ÐµÑÐ¸ÑÐµ /join #ubuntu-ru Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÑÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¼Ð¾ÑÐ¸ Ð½Ð° ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¾Ð¼ ÑÐ·ÑÐºÐµ. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. <qwererfrrthyty> ok ru, but in my town night 4:38 AM <lubot1> <VikingRedwolf> http://lubuntu.me/support <qwererfrrthyty> ubuntu-ru-unregÐ¿ed, they see my message? <tsimonq2> Yes. <qwererfrrthyty> unregged <Unit193> That's not the support channel though. <qwererfrrthyty> Who uses on Windows (host) VB seen what I showed in VB with Lu? <qwererfrrthyty> ru sleep <qwererfrrthyty> During installation I see an attempt to send an error report, but not always. <qwererfrrthyty> lu with btrfs <qwererfrrthyty> All together began install Windows +VB + Lu <qwererfrrthyty> windows host <qwererfrrthyty> host linux no problem ))) <qwererfrrthyty> I have one partition linux, one partition Windows <wxl[m]> ÐÑ Ð½Ðµ Ð½Ð°Ð¹Ð´ÐµÑÐµ Ð¿Ð¾Ð´Ð´ÐµÑÐ¶ÐºÐ¸ Ð² ÑÑÐ¾Ð¼ ÐºÐ°Ð½Ð°Ð»Ðµ. ÐÐµÑÐµÐ¹Ð´Ð¸ÑÐµ Ðº #Ubuntu. <wxl[m]> ÐÑ Ð´Ð¾Ð»Ð¶Ð½Ñ Ð·Ð½Ð°ÑÑ, ÑÑÐ¾ Ð¾Ð³ÑÐ¾Ð¼Ð½Ð¾Ðµ ÐºÐ¾Ð»Ð¸ÑÐµÑÑÐ²Ð¾ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÐ·Ð¾Ð²Ð°ÑÐµÐ»ÐµÐ¹ Ð»ÑÐ±ÑÑ ÑÐ²ÑÐ·Ð°Ð½Ð½ÑÑ Ñ Ubuntu ÐºÐ°Ð½Ð°Ð»Ð¾Ð² Ð½Ðµ Ð¸ÑÐ¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÐ·ÑÑÑ Windows. ÐÑ Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑÐµ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¿ÑÐ¾Ð±Ð¾Ð²Ð°ÑÑ
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