#ubuntu-quality 2013-04-01 <chilicuil> balloons: good morning =)!, I saw the beta testing announcement, I'd like to participate with a spanish hangout, however I only have a free spot between 18:00 and 19:00 UTC, and the official one will start at 20:00 Utc, so I wonder if I should get in contact with JoseAntonio to ask for a slot at ubuntu on air, or is it ok if I do it in my personal youtube account and later put it at the wiki <balloons> chilicuil, you can host on ubuntu-on-air.. makes sense <balloons> we wanted to chat with you about dong a second session straight on ubuntu on air <chilicuil> balloons: cool, then I'll ask JoseAntonio, and sry for not been available, I had a free of internet weekend =) <balloons> no worries.. happy to hear your able to help out :-) <balloons> nosckaj, I have the duplicate entries now in testdrive :-( <jtaylor> hm jenkins autopkgtest dependency parser is still broken? <jtaylor> badpkg: Test Depends field contains dependency `libc-bin (>= 2.13-1~)' with invalid characters <jtaylor> nothing invalid in there <balloons> hey jtaylor .. sadly the folks who can help are on easter holiday today I'd guess <balloons> perhaps an email would work? <jtaylor> well serves me right for not verifying bug 1073856 :( <ubot5> bug 1073856 in autopkgtest (Debian) "Test depends cannot be multiline and are silently ignored if so" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073856 <balloons> :-) <jtaylor> ups actually its debian 693540 <ubot5> Debian bug 693540 in autopkgtest "autopkgtest: doesn't support versioned dependencies" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/693540 <jtaylor> the question is mangle my package or wait for a fix in autopkgtest ._. <jtaylor> given its 4 month old probably the former <balloons> Noskcaj, hey :-) I have the duplicate entries now in testdrive :-( <balloons> did you file a bug on it? <Noskcaj> balloons, yeah, i'll find it now <Noskcaj> bug 1162057 <ubot5> bug 1162057 in testdrive (Ubuntu) "Testdrive has two entries per iso" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162057 <balloons> ty!.. I added me to it <balloons> chilicuil, since your around.. I did some edits to some of the pages for tomorrow -- can you look at this one though in particular? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker <balloons> I expanded on the "what is it" section to include remarks about builds, respins, etc, etc <balloons> is it readable / understandable? <chilicuil> balloons: looking at it <chilicuil> balloons: I think it's as good as a wiki page can be, I'd add some more images though, such as a workflow, something like this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/Charts, I'd do a couple of them tonigh (as soon as I be at home) and will edit the wiki <balloons> hmm.. interesting <balloons> chilicuil, I was trying to avoid overloading the page, as the walkthroughs are intended to give literal step by step info <balloons> I would gladly appreciate input on those as well <chilicuil> balloons: yep, I think you made it cool, it has just enough information to get started, looking at the walkthroughs the first thing I noticed is that the QATeam/Header requires some love, it has missing some icons, some charts there would be great too =) #ubuntu-quality 2013-04-02 <ePierre> Hi everyone! <balloons> ePierre, hello :-) <ePierre> I saw a message on Google+ leading to this article: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/03/beta-testing-extraordinaire-with-ubuntu.html <ePierre> so I wanted to check this channel as well :) <ePierre> I would love to participate, but I'm living in Asia, so the time schedule is pretty bad for me <ePierre> that would be between 2 AM and 6 AM :) <balloons> ePierre, :-( <balloons> I'm uploading some new videos now to the youtube channel that might help you out <balloons> that and the walkthroughs.. It's later here for me.. I'm likely 12 hours difference from you :-) <ePierre> oh, time for bed then! <ePierre> you're Nicholas, right? <ePierre> It's 12:17PM here <balloons> ePierre, indeed.. lol <balloons> ePierre, here's the video channel for you; https://www.youtube.com/qualitybecomesyou.. And here's the tutorials I mentioned; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough <balloons> the video links on those pages are being update *soon* :-) <ePierre> cool! <ePierre> working till past midnight, that's devotion! ;) <balloons> lol.. just making sure things are all set for tomorrow <balloons> err, well today at this point :-) <ePierre> :) <dholbach> good morning <jibel> good morning <ePierre> hi <AditrianR> halo <boboy> hello <gruzin> ÐÑÑÑ ÐºÑÐ¾ ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ ? <Darrel_> hello? <boboy> ya chut chut znayu po russkiy <Darrel_> anybody in? <gruzin> ÑÑÐ¾ Ñ Ð¾ÑÐ¾ÑÐ¾ , ÑÐ°Ðº ÑÑÐ¾ ÑÑÑ Ð¿ÑÐ¾Ð¸ÑÑ Ð¾Ð´Ð¸Ñ <Darrel_> i don't understand. <boboy> ya iz uzbekistane <Darrel_> hope what i'm doing is right? <Jorrit_> what do you wanna do? <Darrel_> so what's going on now? <Azrael_> hello <boboy> what does mean 'Azrael'? <Darrel_> have i to watch the video as well? <Darrel_> anybody there? <Azrael_> War 40k <boboy> yeah i am here <boboy> war? <Azrael_> warhammer <boboy> where are you from <Azrael_> french from russia <boboy> :) <Darrel_> is the video a live treaming/ <boboy> sosed! <Darrel_> i'm from sri lanka. <boboy> i am from uzbekistan <boboy> ! <Azrael_> on any device can i separate working use and personnal use <Darrel_> I don't understand how to use this chat. <Darrel_> can somebody help? <Azrael_> ask some question <mido91> hello everyone <zex> hello to everyone <sary> Salutations! <SergioMeneses> hi everybody! <balloons> hello SergioMeneses <SergioMeneses> balloons, brasero testcase is almost done! :) <balloons> :-) <balloons> just syncing more of the isos for today <SergioMeneses> balloons, nice!... btw I have to share the software center testcase with you <balloons> SergioMeneses, ok.. So I need to update the ubuntu on air page again it seems <SergioMeneses> o0 <SergioMeneses> balloons, did you try to "sync between computers" ? <balloons> SergioMeneses, look ok now? http://ubuntuonair.com/ <balloons> SergioMeneses, I did try it.. I ran into that unrelated bug, but it seemed to work <SergioMeneses> balloons, jejee ok <sojourner> I zsync'd this mornings daily , It boots and the live session runs ok but I can't get past the second pages on the installer , it hangs there , I've been having this problem for most of raring . any suggestions ? <balloons> sojourner, when you say the second page, which page exactly/ <balloons> what's the title at the top? <balloons> also, what's your setup? A vm, real hw, etc? <sojourner> install , the page where you select what to d/l during install . <sojourner> real hardware , 6 drives many partitions , giving the install its own drive . <SergioMeneses> sojourner, there is a bug about it? <sojourner> I forget I think I joined a bug a couple of months ago on it , Ill have to look <SergioMeneses> sojourner, prefect <balloons> sojourner, hmm.. so its not hanging on the partitions page <balloons> really interesting.. if you don't have a bug filed, let's get one filed.. and if it has been filed, we can help make sure it gets looked at <sojourner> no does not get that far . <balloons> your setup sounds like a good test candidate with so many disks and partitions ;-) <balloons> did previous images have issues -- quantal, precise? <davmor2> balloons: you'll be glad to know that todays images allows secureboot again :) <sojourner> yes I have precise and an upgraded to raring install of quantal I had a raring daily that did work from a mnth ago but I wiped it for this install . <balloons> davmor2, nice! do you have secure hardware yourself? <davmor2> balloons: however there is an issue with the software-updater it seems to stick on preconfiguring packages :( <balloons> sojourner, if you can get the date or approximate date on that it would help.. is there any indication of what the error is? If it locks the system completely, file a bug before you get to that part <davmor2> balloons: I do Lenovo ideapad y580 <sojourner> doesn't lock up just the installer stalled I can quit it and continue the live . <sojourner> got to leave now , doctors appointment I'll be back later . <balloons> sojourner, ok.. let me know if you need more help <balloons> you can add me to the bug you do fil <balloons> nskaggs is my launchpad id.. <balloons> I want to make sure this gets looked at. thanks sojourner ! <SergioMeneses> btw balloons sojourner If I can with something more, please let me know <gezasgezas> zdarova <balloons> gezasgezas, hello <balloons> SergioMeneses, ohh.. 1800 UTC is in 40 mins :-) <balloons> gonna eat quickly to prepare <SergioMeneses> balloons, /o\ <SergioMeneses> perfect, I'm going to eat something too <SergioMeneses> I'll be back soon <phillw> balloons: SergioMeneses it is 16:30 UTC :) <balloons> phillw, ? <balloons> bah.. indeed it is * balloons rants about google calendar <phillw> http://www.timeanddate.com <phillw> :) <balloons> :-) the time and date applet has it correct.. I almost always just use that <balloons> silly me thought i'd schedule it in google calendar <SergioMeneses> jajajaja <natinux> hi every body <balloons> hello natinux <SergioMeneses> natinux, hi <Guest45744> hello all <natinux> sorry hi <natinux> who speak spanish?? <SergioMeneses> natinux, si? <balloons> SergioMeneses hablo espaÃ±ol natinux <natinux> Perfecto me alegra, que alguien me pueda entender.. <SergioMeneses> natinux, perfecto <natinux> soy un relativamente nuevo en lo que tiene que ver con ubuntu alguien me puede ayudar con unas inquietudes q tengo <natinux> quiero cambiar el tema de ubuntu que por default es Radiance o ambiance.... por otro q me guste quien puede ayudarme??? <SergioMeneses> natinux, soporte? acude a #ubuntu-es <SergioMeneses> la verdad yo ando algo ocupado <natinux> en este dialogo en q puedo ayudar??? o hacer??? y disculpo si incomodo <SergioMeneses> natinux, yo te recomiendo que busques en internet temas para ubuntu <SergioMeneses> la verdad casi nunca cambio eso <chilicuil> balloons: good morning ~_~/ <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, noon <balloons> chilicuil, hello :-) <balloons> you ready? <chilicuil> yep, setting up the vm =) <balloons> k, let me invite you and SergioMeneses now <SergioMeneses> balloons, chilicuil https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities * SergioMeneses goes to find a chair <balloons> going live on ubuntuonair now :-) <davmor2> balloons: there is an apt-daemon fix for the issue I was having with software-updater that landed today so to do updates everyone will need to do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade check the apt-daemon fix is in and then software-updater should in theory work again :) <balloons> this event will be in spanish -- can everyone see the video? <Letozaf_> balloons, I can :D <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, \o\ <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, Hey :D <schauer97> Are they using Webcamstudio? <balloons> schauer97, using g+ hangout <schauer97> Yes, but the quality of the Desktop is better than mine, if I make a Hangout on air. <schauer97> sorry for my bad english :/ <balloons> ahh.. :-) I too don't have an amazing upload speed, which is what controls the quality <SergioMeneses> schauer97, dont worry <schauer97> OK :) <ofprieto> o/ <balloons> schauer97, te habla angalias bueno <balloons> lol.. better than my spanish <SergioMeneses> balloons, it is not so bad <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, \o <balloons> if anyone has any questions, SergioMeneses abd chilicuil can both help in spanish.. and after the demo maybe even show you if you need help <SergioMeneses> \o/ <ofprieto> jejee SergioMeneses el on air tiene bastante ruido de fondo <balloons> cuestiones, alguien? <ofprieto> please mut micro ;D <SergioMeneses> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ <ofprieto> si <ofprieto> SergioMeneses: <ofprieto> SergioMeneses: solo se esta compartiendo la ventana de test disk <BartOC3> ofprieto +1 <ofprieto> si ya se ve todo SergioMeneses <ofprieto> *el navegador <balloons> if anyone needs help running or trying out a testcase, feel free to speak up.. <balloons> English or EspaÃ±ol :-) <balloons> there's also folks who can help in italiano or franÃ§ais if needed <ofprieto> BartOC3: sabes cual es el link ? <ofprieto> cual es la opcion de este repositorio donde encuentro la parte del beta http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ <BartOC3> ofprieto cual link ? <ofprieto> daily-live? <ofprieto> mira BartOC3 en este http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ cual es el link para entrar a la opcion del beta2? * balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Beta Testing Extraordinaire with Ubuntu Quality http://ubuntuonair.com/ 1800 UTC, 2200 UTC | Raring Final Beta Testing <BartOC3> ofprieto > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ <CheeseBurg> Â¿Es esta sesiÃ³n en espaÃ±ol solamente? <balloons> CheeseBurg, si <ofprieto> 02 de abril, 18:00 UTC (en espaÃ±ol) 02 de abril, 20:00 UTC (InglÃ©s) <ofprieto> gracias BartOC3 * balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Beta Testing Extraordinaire with Ubuntu Quality http://ubuntuonair.com/ 1800 UTC, 2000 UTC | Raring Final Beta Testing <CheeseBurg> ja ja ok. No hay manera de que google se puede traducir esta sesiÃ³n completa. <CheeseBurg> adiÃ³s <BartOC3> SergioMeneses mande el link por aca.. <sojourner> I'm back , I tried again same result ubiquity hung again .I used ubuntu-bug to file bug report 1163502 . I checked and my previous bug was from quantal <SergioMeneses> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough <balloons> sojourner, I'll go look at the bug now <BartOC3> Gracias don SergioMeneses <balloons> bug 1163502 <ubot5> bug 1163502 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity hung during install of april 2 daily amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163502 <ofprieto> SergioMeneses: pregunta <ofprieto> osea puedo crear entornos de pruebas en virtualbox <ofprieto> de varias versiones? <ofprieto> ok pero al tomar ese perfil de hardware no me tomaria el del virtual box? <balloons> sojourner, we need to expand the description of the bug report so the developer knows what's going on <balloons> can you describe it the same way you described it to me? you have x disks, x partitions, and your trying to install by selecting X option, etc <balloons> and then it locks the session, and ubiquity freezes, etc <balloons> whatever happens :-) <ofprieto> ok, Gracias :D <sojourner> ok <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, andamos algo cortos de tiempo <SergioMeneses> pero como te decia lo importante en ese caso es el manejo al disco duro <SergioMeneses> por los discos virtuales <SergioMeneses> pero de poder puedes ;) <ofprieto> yo ando en la empresa :S cualquiermomento vuelo SergioMeneses jejeje <SergioMeneses> sino puedes crear un disco de virtualbox generico y re--escribirlo <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, dale! <ofprieto> si ees que yo tengo ahorita <ofprieto> instalado 12.10 <ofprieto> y de todo el software que tengo ya instalado configurado no puedo formatear y formatear o realizar actualizaciones <ofprieto> el disco mio es de 750 eso alcanza <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, claro! por eso decia que es mejor mantener upgrades <SergioMeneses> pero es cuestion de gustos <ofprieto> ham yo si hago upgrades, pero aveces me ocurren fallas un tanto complicadas :S no tengo tanto nivel como para solucionarlas <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, jeje dale cualquier cosa podes preguntar aqui, eso si en Ingles :P si yo estoy desocupado te doy una mano <ofprieto> huu ok <balloons> sojourner, ok, I'll look at the log, see if I reproduce.. listing exactly what you did and how you did it helps to reproduce the bug <balloons> if we can reproduce it, it makes it much easier for a developer to fix. So when filing, it's a good idea to include enough information that the developer is able to reproduce it <sojourner> added comment to the report . is that enough ? I can copy the entire /var/log to another drive and upload anything else you think might be useful . <balloons> btw, you can update the original description -- click the yellow exclamation point <balloons> hmm.. grabbing /var/log is always useful.. what you have attached might be enough <sojourner> ok I'll copy it and preserve it if they need something later i'll have it .. <balloons> sojourner, perfect <BartOC3> SergioMeneses hasta el mometo todo perfecto.. <SergioMeneses> BartOC3, dale! <SergioMeneses> siempre es algo complicado estos horarios jeje pero la intension cuenta :) <balloons> sojourner, did you boot using usb or via cd/dvd? <BartOC3> SergioMeneses si lo que vale es la intencion... <SergioMeneses> balloons, was a real installation? real hardware? <ofprieto> SergioMeneses: pero no queda nada registrado ? <sojourner> I'm here on my main sys I'll leave the daily running on my test box ( where I do my testing ) if you want me to try something else . <ofprieto> por que si la intencion cuenta pero si se logra grabar tambien seria bueno :D <SergioMeneses> ofprieto, si! quedara el video en youtube en el canal oficial de ubuntuonair <balloons> let's see if xnox is around <SergioMeneses> balloons, ++ <balloons> xnox, is our resident friendly ubiquity developer ;-) <SergioMeneses> xnox, rocks! \o/ <ofprieto> se me cayo la conexion <balloons> sojourner, can you try something for me? <sojourner> sure <balloons> don't connect to a network at all when you install <balloons> try that.. don't check the get updates box etheir (not that it would work :-) ) <sojourner> I've already tried that same thing I'll try again . <balloons> ahh <balloons> it made no difference then? <sojourner> none <balloons> ok.. one other thing to try <balloons> are you booting up into a live session, or selecting install ubuntu at the image boot menu? <balloons> Try both ways.. <sojourner> live session tried both usb and dvd , I'm on the dvd now <FernandoGiraldo> buenas tardes, alguna forma de filtrar las voces del fondo? <balloons> ahh.. try invoking the 'install ubuntu' option straight from the boot menu <sojourner> I've tried install from the boot menu no help , I've beeen fighting this bug for awhile . <balloons> the error your seeing is just spawning from debconf I believe <balloons> so break it down for me one more time.. you see the welcome screen, you click next <balloons> you get the install screen.. all the check boxes are green.. you hit next <balloons> do you get to the install type screen? <Letozaf_> balloons, I will try too, synced my ISO just now <balloons> heck.. let me link you somethng that will help us debug together :) <SergioMeneses> FernandoGiraldo, saludos! <Letozaf_> balloons, what language was selected ? <SergioMeneses> lastimosamente no de momento :S <SergioMeneses> pero se alcanza a escuchar perfecto <Letozaf_> balloons, got it English <FernandoGiraldo> SergioMeneses: ok, gracias <balloons> sojourner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/SlideDecks.. https://plus.google.com/photos/105922848292507689403/albums/5802133545673972321?banner=pwa <FernandoGiraldo> SergioMeneses: saludos. <balloons> which picture is ubiquity dying on? <balloons> this one? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Lui_CB7Td8M/UIVRv6wsQUI/AAAAAAAAAYU/a7Z6sZb8-LE/w482-h371-p-o-k/011.png <balloons> Letozaf_, :-) <sojourner> I see the select what to download screen and when I hit continue it hangs , If I have one of my drives mounted I get a partman message about it and when I tell it to unmount the drive (or not) mit <balloons> ok so it's this screen, preparing to install ubuntu.. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Lui_CB7Td8M/UIVRv6wsQUI/AAAAAAAAAYU/a7Z6sZb8-LE/w482-h371-p-o-k/011.png <SergioMeneses> balloons, we're done <Letozaf_> balloons, I got past that one I'm on the "Installation type" window <sojourner> the one whre it shows if you are connected to the internet and has atleast 4.9 gb drive space and if you are plugged in <sojourner> yes that one <balloons> so the next screen is where you select your installation type.. when you hit continue it reads your disks <balloons> so your not yet installing anything, nor messing with your disks <sojourner> that screen never comes up . <balloons> so that error is weird.. <balloons> right.. got it <balloons> SergioMeneses, chilicuil thank you! <balloons> thank you all for attending.. in an hour we'll be doing another session with similar content, but in English.. <balloons> you'll see us again on ubuntuonair <SergioMeneses> balloons, dont worry! thanks for the invite <Letozaf_> balloons, in UbiquityDm.txt I see a Wacom device <Letozaf_> balloons, could it be that ? <Letozaf_> balloons, it does not happen to us as we do not have it ? <balloons> Letozaf_, good question. sojourner, are there any odd devices attached? <balloons> meaning, anything beyond a mouse and keyboard? <SergioMeneses> ok guys I have to go! see you later <sojourner> no <Letozaf_> balloons, thats weired : "wacom-plugin-CRITICAL" <balloons> Letozaf_, did you finish your install? <Letozaf_> balloons, I stopped at the installation type window <balloons> if so, we should compare the logs of your installation to sojourner's <balloons> i need to reboot.. <balloons> I'm going to use the same image, and compare the logs of my install <balloons> brb <Letozaf_> balloons, ok <sojourner> I'm going to try the dvd on my main sys and see if it gets past that screen , I won't risk an install on my main sys but may learn something . <balloons> sojourner, yes indeed.. <balloons> something about that box is causing things to go funny <balloons> ohh <balloons> do you have more than one swap partition? <balloons> I was looking at your partman for a moment <balloons> that's my guess as to where the issue lies.. with your disks/parition setup <sojourner> yes I have 6 drives and 11 patritions , 2 ubuntu installs precise and an upgraded from qunatal , 1 open suse , 1 sabyon and 1 win 8 . like I said its a test box <sojourner> I'll have to quit for a few minutes to try the dvd on my main sys back soon <balloons> phillw, ping <sojourner> tried it on my main sys , I let it go all the way to the partitioning screen before I quit so its ok on that box <sojourner> yes I think it may be the win 8 install I'll try disconnecting that drive and re try . <balloons> sojourner, I have a win8 install lying around I think.. I'll try it on that <sojourner> note I was not using wubi I give every install atleast its own partition , the win 8 install is on its own seperate drive . <balloons> sojourner, ok, booting up the win8 install now with todays image <balloons> I have a quantal and precise box.. I could try attaching more drives to it :-) <sojourner> this was never an issue until quantal and the win 8 install is after quantal . <balloons> interesting :-) <balloons> sojourner, ohh.. wait for it.. <balloons> bah, win8 install passed the screen ok :-) <balloons> let me add that drive to the quantal + precise box and try again <phillw> balloons: soz, having dinner... <phillw> ~ 30 mins & I'll be back :) * balloons now booting a machine with lucid, quantal, precise, win7, win8 :-) <balloons> I don't have any swap partitions however sojourner <balloons> I'll have to make some.. I don't use them <sojourner> I dont need them pleanty of mem I just make them to keep the installer from griping <balloons> wow.. well that took awhile, but it didn indeed get past the screen <sojourner> trying now without the win 8 drive I'm past that screen and to the partitioning screen I'll see if the install goes ok and report back . <balloons> sojourner, that would be a big breakthrough <sojourner> already had an ext4 partition preped so installing now <balloons> sojourner, yea.. I can't reproduce it here, even adding all those partitions <balloons> it still works <balloons> gonna finish an install and make sure <sojourner> yes all I did was disconnect the win 8 drive and its going ok so far . <sojourner> ok I finished the install and am booted into the install on my test box so it was definately the win 8 drive that it didn't like . <balloons> excellent.. I'd add that to the report, and see what xnox comes back with <sojourner> ok <saqman2060> Did the live testing hangouts, in english started already @balloons <balloons> going live in a couple mins <balloons> :-) <Cheeseburg> I was just going to ask that <saqman2060> great just in time <balloons> yep, just in time <saqman2060> where is the link to the stream? <balloons> ubuntuonair.com <CheeseBurg> heyoo <saqman2060> Where do you find "testdrive" @balloon <Letozaf> you can just open the dash and type in testdrive and install it clicking on the search result <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough <saqman2060> thanks <saqman2060> zsync is good to use <Letozaf> saqman2060, yes it's the quicker way to download ISO's <johngreen> hello! <saqman2060> greetings <Letozaf> johngreen, hello! <saqman2060> netboot test case sounds good. Please show @balloon <Letozaf> saqman2060, don't worry we will show it soon <saqman2060> @letozaf, thanks <meetingology> saqman2060: Error: "letozaf," is not a valid command. <saqman2060> letozaf, thanks <Letozaf> saqman2060, :) <saqman2060> sound quality is a little harsh <balloons> can you hear ok? <UbuPhillup_> not so good <balloons> is it better now? <balloons> I can hear ok.. but there is some feedback <Noskcaj> balloons, can i have a link? <CheeseBurg> the screen is of google+ <balloons> Noskcaj, ubuntuonair.com <Noskcaj> ok, ty. can i join the conversation somehow <balloons> Noskcaj, yes of course <CheeseBurg> Yea I can hear you but your very VERY low <balloons> CheeseBurg, ok, let me know if there is something you don't understand <HarryHawk> Am I correct that Virtual box will not run on my Nexus 7? <balloons> HarryHawk, I think that's a wise assumption :-) * balloons wonders if there is working virtual machine managers for arm <bdmurray> psivaa: is raring upgrade testing being run? <Anujit> her voice is bit on the lower side... <ultimo> what is this all about? <balloons> this is showing a netboot testcase installatio <balloons> we covered a basic install using virtualbox a virtual machine <UbuPhillup_> when balloons speak is there a Â»brummÂ« <UbuPhillup_> but i can understand <zak_> Does testdrive require a cpu with the virtualization feature? If not what are the minimum requiremenst to run testdrive? <Noskcaj> so everyone knows, netboot on PPC is a bit different <UbuPhillup_> ;) <UbuPhillup_> okey <Noskcaj> netboot doesn't release betas, they're on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds though for some reason <Anujit> ok..r autosync options also there? <johnny-ubi> lol... it's u-boon-too... <CheeseBurg> oo-boo-too <johnny-ubi> sure <UbuPhillup> in German <Anujit> kind of a stupid ques..but is the the min sys reqmnts for ubuntu on virtual box? <UbuPhillup> what about the applications? <UbuPhillup> are they overwritten? <balloons> Anujit, the min requirements <balloons> I would say a few gb's of ram, and a resonably new cpi <balloons> UbuPhillup, yes the applications are overwritten <UbuPhillup> balloons: okey thanks <UbuPhillup> yes <Anujit> Thanks <Noskcaj> Anujit, try running netboot, lubuntu or xubuntu in a VM first, as they use less RAM <Noskcaj> just so some of you know, in PPC you can only download off one server <balloons> I hope that proved helpful <balloons> thank you Carla and Noskcaj <balloons> sorry the netboot case didn't finish :-( <Letozaf_> yes it take quite long <Letozaf_> sorry for that :( <Noskcaj> sorry i didn't have the time to get an ISO, my dad hates the internet <Letozaf_> but now there is an excuse to test it so you see what happens <Letozaf_> at the end <balloons> Letozaf_, :-) <Noskcaj> did phill go on the stream before i was on. <balloons> Noskcaj, no he's restricted by bandwidth <balloons> thanks everyone for watching! <balloons> btw, I noticed our non-english testcase is showing up borked: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41126/testcases/1316/results <balloons> I was going to do it, and file a bug on it ;-) <balloons> at least it is in my browser <balloons> is it for you? <balloons> the characters are incorrect <Noskcaj> balloons, as i said earlier, why is netboot in the beta 2 testing area? <Letozaf_> balloons, same for me the non-english testcase is showing up borked <balloons> Noskcaj, I'm confused <balloons> I'm not sure what's going on.. we'll need to ask -release <Noskcaj> netboot shouldn't be in here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds <balloons> most things are missing if you'll notice <balloons> which is odd <Noskcaj> balloons, not really, some ISOs always come before the rest <balloons> per infinity.. indeed, they are re-spinning everything <balloons> hopefully everything looks good.. easter set things back it seems <balloons> I should have shown reporting a bug a bit more I think <balloons> anyways.. <balloons> I'll file the bug for the testcase not showing up properly <Letozaf_> balloons, netboot install is still going ... :-) <balloons> Noskcaj, letozaf_ I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1163589 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1163589 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Non-english testcases don't render properly" [Undecided,New] <phillw> balloons: there is possibly a similar issue in docs / manual where UTF coding is causing problems. I can go dig the details of the email if you think it may help? <balloons> phillw, hmm.. if you want to leave it in a comment on the bug, that could help.. <balloons> I've not looked into it.. and today I won't <balloons> I'm bushed :-) <phillw> I'll got find the email. It may be totally unrelated, but the non-rendering bit does ring a bell :) <phillw> balloons: bug 922251 (amongst others) <ubot5> bug 922251 in ubuntu-ru-docs "serverguide-pdf: ubuntu font instead of serif/monospace/symbol" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922251 <phillw> ahh, no. it seems pdf based for that bug, but the email discussion is not. I'll add it to the bug. <sojourner> after I booted into my install it wanted to "finish installing the language packs" I let it try and it stalled at " preconfiguring packages " I quit out and rebooted and installed synaptic with apt-get , started synaptic and it showed nothing broken or missing . the message it showed when I killed the language updat said I had out of date packages ? <OmarMattlob> hi <balloons> sojourner, hmm <balloons> if it stalled out, it might have gotten stuck on something <balloons> or it simply finished and didn't update <sojourner> I've rebooted a couple of times and installed much software and no problems so far . <balloons> right.. I wouldn't expect there to be any <balloons> did you install in english? <balloons> or something else? <sojourner> I also reconnected the win 8 drive and updated my master grub ( on the precise install) and all ok <sojourner> english yes <balloons> if in english, you shouldn't see that prompt for language packs <balloons> only for languages that aren't on the iso <sojourner> I get that sometimes I don't know why . <balloons> odd.. * balloons wonders if there is a bug <balloons> ohh <balloons> did you have internet enabled? <balloons> I *think* there might be a couple bits it wants that isn't on the cd <sojourner> not during install but when the prompt shoed up <balloons> might still be a bug, but could explain it <balloons> ahh yes <balloons> I believe the intent is those should be on the cd <balloons> and of course, it shouldn't error out <sojourner> it didn't error out I had to kill debconf from the system monitor . <sojourner> It has happened on some previous installs but never has caused a problem I just figgured it was a quirk . <balloons> right <balloons> debconf quirk indeed <balloons> well, I'm off for now.. interesting finds sojourner :-) <balloons> let me know if you need my help to follow up any of them <balloons> I want to ask xnox about the win8 drive bug you found <sojourner> when I updated the repos I noticed most or all of the language translation repo's failed <balloons> what on earth about it was/is preventing install <balloons> ttyl <sojourner> I have no Idea but I know how to fix it next time . #ubuntu-quality 2013-04-03 <wes> a <phillw> Noskcaj: ping <l3elivE> When is the hangout? <ePierre> Hi <ePierre> I believe it was... 6 hours ago :) <sary> !bug #1162027 <ubot5`> bug 1162027 in testdrive (Ubuntu) ""global name 'gobject' is not defined" error on TestDrive just installed on fresh Raring" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162027 <pitti> Good morning <ePierre> Hi! <balloons> guten nacht :-) <ePierre> Bonne nuit :) <ePierre> æå® (if UTF8 works fine...) <balloons> :-) indeed! * balloons waves to ePierre <jibel> good morning <ePierre> hey <dholbach> good morning <pitti> jibel: thanks for the first three armhf autopkgtests! <jibel> pitti, you're welcome. <jibel> pitti, I prepared the 3 other nodes and enabled it for all the packages <pitti> jibel: is there some chance that we can get the usual logs from those? <pitti> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-apport-armhf/4/ <pitti> upower and g-i succeed <jibel> pitti, logs are here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-apport-armhf/4/ARCH=armhf,label=1ss-panda01/ <jibel> under the badly named configuration 'default'. that's what jenkins set when there is only one value <pitti> ooh, I see <dholbach> salut pitti <pitti> jibel: ugh, that's full of failures; that's going to be fun <pitti> hallo dholbach, wie gehts? <pitti> jibel: thanks, I'll debug that on the nexus <jibel> pitti, there will be some limitations due to lxc, for example access to devices in /dev <dholbach> pitti, sehr gut - wie geht's Dir? :) <pitti> dholbach: prima, danke! es war ein schoenes langes Osterwochenende in Dresden <dholbach> hier auch :) <pitti> jibel: there are some obvious ones, like "archive.u.c." not having armhf or different kernel package names, but no off-hand idea about the missing core dumps <psivaa> bdmurray: yes, the server and desktop upgrade tests run every day for standard packages <xnox> Can somebody tell me the magic of dl-ubuntu-test-iso? <xnox> I'd like to use to download e.g. nexus7 images but I'm failing to specify the "right" command line args. <xnox> is there a way to list all possible & working combos of arch/flavour/release/variant? <jibel> xnox, I think nexus images are not supported by the tool <jibel> AFAIR the list of supported arch/flavour/release/variant is hardcoded <xnox> jibel: yet "dl-ubuntu-test-iso --only ubuntu --arch armhf+nexus7" started the .img.gz download for me =) <jibel> xnox, right, someone added armhf+nexus7 <xnox> jibel: apart from it did not download the "bootimg" portion =( <jibel> xnox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673606/ should work, I'll propose an MP <bdmurray> psivaa: where are they? I could not find them in jenkins <xnox> jibel: nice =) thanks. <psivaa> bdmurray: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-upgrade-quantal-server/ is one of them <psivaa> bdmurray: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-upgrade-quantal-desktop/ is another <psivaa> bdmurray: plars was working on to get get the universe and main packages as well, but in progress i suppose <bdmurray> psivaa: okay, thanks I found what I was looking for <psivaa> bdmurray: yw <plars> psivaa: yes, it needs a lot of hand holding to get it working right and it takes up to 30 hours to find out if it's going to work. I don't have time to do this right now, but after raring release I'd like to revisit it for p->s upgrade testing <plars> for universe that is <psivaa> plars: ok, thanks <smartboyhw> Hiyas phille <smartboyhw> phillw <phillw> hiyas smartboyhw <psivaa> bdmurray: btw, i have duped bug 1163266 to bug 1161943. please let me know if you want me to revert. the older bug also contains the indicator-session segfault logs <ubot5> bug 1161943 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1163266 oem-config hangs when removing ubquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161943 <ubot5> bug 1161943 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config hangs when removing ubquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161943 * xnox didn't have much luck fixing it though =( <psivaa> but it 'appears' fixed in 20130402.1 though. the hanging part that is <psivaa> xnox: it was possible to complete oem installations with the latest images <xnox> psivaa: do we archive manifests, such that we can "diff" them? <xnox> psivaa: yes, we do, let me check what has changed. <shadeslayer> stgraber: what's the option to pass to lxc-create so that any modifications I do once the container is built are non persistent? <smartboyhw> phillw: Since when is amjjawad making QA announcements of Lubuntu for ya? <phillw> smartboyhw: since my server has been having a major issue! <smartboyhw> uh oh what issue? <smartboyhw> phillw and balloons BTW extremely sorry for missing the events yesterday, not my timezome <smartboyhw> *timezone <phillw> smartboyhw: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=6363 <phillw> I'm just pulling in the lubuntu alternate amd64 to test locally. <smartboyhw> Uh oh <smartboyhw> phillw: Get on your ppc testers:-P <smartboyhw> balloons: plz deop <phillw> smartboyhw: they're waiting for the ppc desktop to land... Lars has already nagged me! <smartboyhw> Good that we (Ubuntu Studio) doesn't have such thing. <smartboyhw> phillw: And BTW I strongly recommend you guys to have an LTS for 14.04 <smartboyhw> And I think you guys should use a better reason of why 12.04 isn't LTS (compared to manpower issues) <phillw> smartboyhw: there is no better reason NOT to have an LTS than a manpower issue. It would simply not be acolon@example.com. The debate for an LTS for 14.04 has already started, with the guy who puts together lxle looking to learn about backporting and thus joining :) <smartboyhw> phillw: No a better reason is that according to the guideline for flavour approval says that you need to do two normal releases before having an LTS. Henceforth it wasn't just manpower, the TB won't approve it at all for 12.04 <smartboyhw> lol <phillw> smartboyhw: you forget the history of how to adopt a new flavour... there wasn't a procedure before lubuntu arrived, writing it delayed our adoption by a cycle :D <smartboyhw> ....... <smartboyhw> LOL <smartboyhw> phillw: Come on I joined Ubuntu after 12.04 LTS was released <phillw> xnox: sorry to ping you, but does BenC have a PPC server on which he can test that particular ISO? none of our QA team have access to such kit as the tests for PPC server want and we can only run a minimal set of tasks. <smartboyhw> How can I remember when I don't know! <phillw> smartboyhw: lol <smartboyhw> phillw: ;P * balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Raring Final Beta Testing <smartboyhw> balloons thx for deop-ing <balloons> smartboyhw, :-) sorry.. I must have left it on <balloons> smartboyhw, if we have another testing event like that, we could try do do one in your timezone timing.. we had one scheduled, but no one expressed interest for keeping it, so I didn't have it. Since then, seems like there is some interest.. if we do it again, I would include it <balloons> so you could take part :-) <balloons> like 800 UTC? <smartboyhw> 1400 UTC <balloons> 1400 UTC would be your preferred time? <smartboyhw> Yep <balloons> interesting... <smartboyhw> I am never sure on date though <balloons> lol <balloons> so that's like 2200 local time for you? <smartboyhw> balloons: That fits the about-to-sleep Asians, Europeans eating lunch and woken Americans <smartboyhw> balloons yes <balloons> i suppose your right.. it's 0700 even on the west coast by then <smartboyhw> That's my perfect time <balloons> I assumed that would be too late for you :-) ok, well, we'll try <smartboyhw> balloons no 2200 Hong Kong time is best <smartboyhw> The problem is I don't have a webcam <smartboyhw> And my parents probably allow me to go on events like these <smartboyhw> And I don't want to scare everyone with my pimply face <balloons> smartboyhw, lol.. you don't have to do video <smartboyhw> * don't allow <balloons> you could just hangout on IRC.. or do a demo and just share your desktop and voice.. <smartboyhw> balloons I like IRC <balloons> but again.. IRC is also good:-) <smartboyhw> balloons maybe a demo will be good <smartboyhw> balloons fire up your machines, I heard that the images are undertested. <smartboyhw> lol <balloons> lol.. we were all ready yesterday! <smartboyhw> balloons well I just heard it in #ubuntu-release surprise! <smartboyhw> And more suprisingly Noskcaj is running for Xubuntu Project Lead! <smartboyhw> (infinity) cjwatson: We seem pretty woefully undertested at the moment, except for core. <balloons> ohh project lead? <balloons> good for him :) is someone stepping down or ? <smartboyhw> balloons I think he will get under 10 votes <smartboyhw> balloons regular procedure <balloons> ahh.. just normal election time <smartboyhw> balloons the problem is <smartboyhw> 1. People don't trust 14-year-olds like Noskcaj (or me) to lead <smartboyhw> 2. He isn't a Ubuntu Member nor in the Xubuntu Team LP group <smartboyhw> 3. He is still new in testing compared to me and the previous generatios of testers <balloons> ahh.. well, if he wants to pursue getting more involved, he should.. and there are likely places he can help out.. "leader" or not <smartboyhw> I won't vote for him either. <balloons> your title or lack of title never stopped you.. shouldn't stop him etheir <smartboyhw> balloons I am not lack of titles lol <smartboyhw> balloons ah BTW meet our new Ubuntu Studio Project Lead zequence (Kaj Ailomaa) <balloons> I've seen mails from him :-) <balloons> looks like you had quite an april fools day <smartboyhw> balloons what happened to the QA people interview idea? <smartboyhw> balloons yeah, first played by ogra_ then this <smartboyhw> I am away at Hangzhou on April Fools Day <balloons> right now is busy time for such things :-) after release we have more freedom <smartboyhw> And I was clearly beaten by these things <balloons> that's quite a trip away <balloons> no wonder you flew :-) <smartboyhw> LOL <smartboyhw> balloons wondering: How many tabs do you get in your Administration page of the ISO QA Tracker? lol <balloons> not as many as the release team :-) <smartboyhw> balloons exact number! <balloons> 8? <smartboyhw> balloons: including summary tav <smartboyhw> ? <balloons> are you curious if you have more? <balloons> my guess is yes <smartboyhw> balloons I have 6 <smartboyhw> Eh lol <plars> jamespage: I'm trying to run the iscsi tests and the unauth mode seems to work for me but not auth on current raring image. It seems to hang after bootsplash on the boot <plars> jamespage: hmm, actually it seems like maybe it's hanging at random places and not just on that one. I'm trying to boot the i386 one with unauth and it's stopped after starting configure network device used by iSCSI root <phillw> balloons: I only have 3... summary, TestCases & TestSuites .... Should I have more? <balloons> phillw, no <balloons> flavors leads also get a tab to manage releases <phillw> balloons: okies :) <balloons> and the release team gets to manage much more than that ofc <phillw> balloons: you mean this? https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-product-managers <balloons> I don't control access :-) <phillw> 'boss' made it official a while back, so there was no doubt of my having 'GO / NO GO' for release questions :) <Letozaf_> balloons, Hey <balloons> Letozaf_, hello <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi <Letozaf_> balloons, I am having the same problem I had yesterday with the Panda board <balloons> with the updated iso? <Letozaf_> balloons, black screen after reboot, cursor blinking on the top left <Letozaf_> balloons, yes <Letozaf_> balloons, the problem is I cannot do anything so I have no logs <Letozaf_> balloons, for reporting a bug <balloons> right.. hnn <balloons> so you can't even get to a grub menu? <Letozaf_> balloons, it boots, you initially see the ubuntu logo and then all goes black <Letozaf_> balloons, my impression is that its only a display problem but cannot give any info on it <Letozaf_> balloons, when I switched the Panda board off and then on again I saw that it checked the volume as it was inappropriately tured off and then it went black again <balloons> Letozaf_, so try booting into recovery mode <balloons> don't start x <balloons> you should be able to grab logs that way <Letozaf_> balloons, right, let me try <fanysCZ> hello, will be Mesa 9.1 in Ubuntu Raring or will it be postponed to 13.10? <jono__> if you watchig Q+A videocast, please join #ubuntu-on-air <balloons> jono__, let me fix that.. ohh.. seems like you've done it <balloons> Letozaf_, any luck? <Letozaf_> balloons, no :( let me send you a link to a picture, just a second <Letozaf_> balloons, probably it's not only a display problem, it looks like but it is not : https://plus.google.com/photos/110772571847074999454/albums/5862702578676887281?authkey=CN3c8Z-G8PTOdA <balloons> what's the last line mean in english? :-0 <Letozaf_> balloons, :D press C to cancel currently running disk checks <balloons> ahh so the first part says something about disk controller error? <Letozaf_> balloons, I tried to press shift or escape just after switching on <Letozaf_> balloons, but it does not boot into recovery mode :( <balloons> we might need to poke the #ubuntu-arm guys <balloons> i wonder if there's another issue with the graphics driver and the new kernel / xstack <Letozaf_> balloons, no it says that checking hard drive errors and that it can take some time to do it <Letozaf_> balloons, that "CPU interrupts balancing daemon" already occurred in previous test I had reported a bug <Letozaf_> balloons, let me find it <balloons> well.. is it a dsik issue? <Letozaf_> balloons, I think the message is there because I switched off the panda board <Letozaf_> balloons, just pulling the power cord out <Letozaf_> balloons, so after reboot it does a disk check <Letozaf_> balloons, I did not turn it off normally as I could not <balloons> ohh right right <balloons> ;) <Letozaf_> balloons, I think the last two lines are just saying that the panda board was shut down in a "bad way" and that the file system is being checked for errors <Letozaf_> balloons, the panda board now is stuck cannot do anything its like freezed <Letozaf_> balloons, with what you see in the photo <Letozaf_> balloons, I had reported bug number 1099123 <Letozaf_> bug 1099123 <ubot5> bug 1099123 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ARM install stalls on keyboard detection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099123 <Letozaf_> balloons, wait its the wrong bug :( <Letozaf_> balloons, here is the right one bug 1161981 <ubot5> bug 1161981 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Boot stalls after Ubuntu Raring desktop ARM (Panda board) install" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161981 <Letozaf_> balloons, if you look at the attached screen-shot it has the same CPU interrupts balancing daemon message <balloons> Letozaf_, k <balloons> indeed <balloons> it's marked as incomplete, waiting for logs <balloons> umm <balloons> did you install to the sd card or to the usb drive? <balloons> etheir way, I'm guessing you could mount that on your main machine and get the logs that way :-) <Letozaf_> balloons, I installed to a USB drive it's a new one <balloons> hehe <Letozaf_> balloons, yes ! <balloons> make sense? <Letozaf_> balloons, of course * balloons notes we weren't thinking! <Letozaf_> balloons, :P <Letozaf_> balloons, I will do it now :) <Letozaf_> balloons, thanks. I'm attaching the logs to the bug :P <balloons> tyay! <phillw> Noskcaj: are you about? <Noskcaj> phillw, yeah, for the next 5 minutes <phillw> Noskcaj: have a look at bug 1092349 Brian wants to know if it is still an issue. <ubot5> bug 1092349 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt /home in raring fails on reboot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092349 <phillw> Noskcaj: see http://pastebin.com/XGUt69M0 <Noskcaj> i'll have a look at the bug when i'm home from school. i was never able to confirm it though <phillw> I'll mark it as invalid, I've not come across it myself. <xnox> phillw: did you do (a) home folder encryption - a tick box during user-setup or (b) full disk-encryption a tickbox on the partitioning page ? <phillw> xnox: I do the encrypt your home folder during set up. <xnox> phillw: which set up. <phillw> lubuntu amd64 alt <phillw> I did not see comment #5 asking me for my passphrase, just telling me to note it down. <phillw> I'm just finishing the i386 'encrypted home' install now, anything you want to look out for? <SergioMeneses> hi all! <balloons> hi SergioMeneses <SergioMeneses> balloons, hey! I'm answering emails :S RU-loco and another things <SergioMeneses> btw I saw the qa-post on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/108452779163647535106/posts/JWPS2ryB5rJ <SergioMeneses> nice <balloons> :-) #ubuntu-quality 2013-04-04 <pitti> Good moring <jibel> good morning <dholbach> good morning <Noskcaj> can someone test the xubuntu raring beta 2 iso's, they release tomorrow and need testing <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, phillw balloons or whoever: Is that "double entry" bug in Testdrive fixed? <smartboyhw> Seems not:( <shadeslayer> anyone have an idea how to create an lxc container so that it's non persistent? <shadeslayer> I mean, any chances are lost once you shut it down <shadeslayer> stgraber: ^ <pitti> schroot does that quite nicely; I'm also interested in whether lxc can work on top of schroot, so that I can either just simply schroot into those, or "boot" them with lxc (provided that they have upstart etc. installed) <pitti> stgraber: ^ can you please ping me on your answer, too? <pitti> jibel: speaking of which, we recently discussed moving from kvm to lxc for adt-run, right? <pitti> jibel: adt-virt-schroot at least works really well, I just tried "adt-run --built-tree=. --no-built-binaries --- adt-virt-schroot sid" in the pygobject source <pitti> jibel: and /usr/bin/adt-virt-schroot seems moderately comprehensible, unlike adt-run itself :) <jibel> pitti, right, for platforms that do not support kvm. This is what we use for autopkgtest on armhf <jibel> pitti, the current implementation is temporary because I wanted something ready quickly without finding more bugs in autopkgtest. But the plan is to add an lxc driver to adt <jibel> shadeslayer, lxc-start-ephemeral starts an ephemeral copy of an existing container that is destroyed on shutdown <shadeslayer> ah <shadeslayer> awesome <shadeslayer> thanks! <jibel> pitti, you can use schroot I think, I did something very similar to test ubuntu-core images. Basically the process was to unpack the tarball, create a configuration file, update network configuration and start the container. <jibel> pitti, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/+junk/ubuntu-core/view/head:/bin/core_test <stgraber> shadeslayer, pitti: lxc-start-ephemeral -o <orig container> <stgraber> oh, I see jibel replied already ;) <shadeslayer> yeah :) <pitti> stgraber: I think that uses its own overlay system, or can it use schroot? <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks for the link! <pitti> stgraber: nevermind <smartboyhw> phillw, ping <phillw> smartboyhw: I've got to go.. soz. <smartboyhw> phillw, er. later then <balloons> dholbach, sorry you couldn't make the new time :-) <smartboyhw> balloons, hiyas! <smartboyhw> balloons, doing any Beta 2 testing?:P <balloons> pitti, jibel dholbach .. bah.. I did the same thing as jibel. I put the new meeting time overlapping something else :-( <balloons> If I move to 1300 UTC tomorrow does that allow everyone to make it? <balloons> smartboyhw, hello <balloons> smartboyhw, I see studio is all ready :-) <pitti> balloons: WFM <smartboyhw> balloons, except upgrades. zequence and I are working on these NOW <jibel> balloons, it's 1500 in our timezone, it's fine with me. <balloons> lol.. ok.. we'll get this right :-) you should have the new time now <smartboyhw> Hi testers, anybody want to help out jbicha and his Ubuntu GNOME teammates for some Beta 2 testing? <jbicha> hi, Ubuntu GNOME has one more testcase (I believe) that needs to be done http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds/41180/testcases/1303/results
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