#ubuntu-ca 2011-02-01 <BluesKaj> Hey folks <gpc> morning #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-02 <s-fox> =) starcraftman <s-fox> =) <MagicFab> Hi Canada <s-fox> Hi MagicFab <MagicFab> I've recently created a LibreOffice DVD specifically for distribution in our multi-lingual geography <MagicFab> It also helps introduce Ubuntu :) <MagicFab> here's the recipe: <MagicFab> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD <MagicFab> if anyone wants to d/l the ISO ask me privately, I'll give you a link <BluesKaj> Howdy <s-fox> Hello BluesKaj <BluesKaj> hi s-fox <s-fox> How are you ? <BluesKaj> ok s-fox , how about you ? <s-fox> I am okay BluesKaj , just getting excited about my new ubuntu project <BluesKaj> sorry s-fox , was away trying to get my other natty box to boot into the desktop <s-fox> BluesKaj, It is okay, I got caught up in a little problem with a server ;) <s-fox> I am revitalising the Ubuntu Community Interviews - http://serial-coder.co.uk/?1128 <BluesKaj> this medis -server /pc was running natty , but the new X 1.10 stack came down the pipe and broke X and the nvidia driver, I fear thesame has happened with my other linux pc. I've been expecting it an I actually prefer maverick's stability anyway <BluesKaj> s-fox, intersting page..tell me about your latest ubuntu project <s-fox> BluesKaj, I am continuing the interviews. It has been some time since any were done <BluesKaj> looks like one has to give some the qustions a little thought :) <BluesKaj> hmm, KB battery needs changing methinks <s-fox> Yes, the questions are open ended =) <BluesKaj> ok, bbiab , time to reinstall kubuntu 10.10 on the den pc. <s-fox> Goodbye. <dscassel> 'sup Canada <dscassel> Kitchener's Ubuntu Hour is still on tonight, despite the (admittedly anticlimactic) snow. <gpc> snow always makes me happy <gpc> my car is currently burried and I don't care :) <BluesKaj> not here , totally went south ofus <dscassel> Chicago's pretty impressive... http://yfrog.com/gzm1twvj #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-03 <LinuxPusher> am I too late? <dscassel> Too late for what, I wonder? <txwikinger> Too late? <dscassel> Changing meeting date to Tuesdays. Next meeting: Jan. 15. <dscassel> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/684/detail/ <hypatia> dscassel: feb 15? <gpc> hypatia: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-backintime-machine <gpc> to attend the meeting <hypatia> gpc: lol <gpc> it's a VM that uses Wine, all very complicated but the package makes it simple <dscassel> Feb 15. :P <BobJonkman> Darn. I was hoping to try that package <dscassel> I'm still writing 2005 on cheques. <BobJonkman> Me too. that's the last time I had money <gpc> hahaha <crond> http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/932571--ottawa-threatens-to-reverse-crtc-decision-on-internet-billing <crond> just FYI folks <kbot> hello all <BluesKaj> Hiyas <dscassel> Morning. :) <BluesKaj> 'morning dscassel <dscassel> BluesKaj: Any luck with natty lately? <BluesKaj> no dscassel I reverted to maverick , the X1.10 stack removed important xorg files and the replacements broke X on my 2 linuxboxes <BluesKaj> all's well tho I had backups of all the important and media files, so no data was lost <BluesKaj> what's the gdm app responsible for "desktop effects" ? <hakimsheriff> hi people #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-04 <BluesKaj> Hey folks <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj. <dscassel> "Desktop effects" is compiz, btw. <BluesKaj> 'morning dscassel ...still is compiz eh, ok wasn't sure ...I know that it used to be in 10.04 <BluesKaj> dscassel, someone "corrected" me at #ubuntu the other day and claimed that it wasn't compiz anymore <BluesKaj> on 10.10 <BluesKaj> hmm , I'm running kde , I wonder if it's not a kwin thing and not compiz, dscassel <khloroform_> someone do some Web developement on ubuntu/linux? I do that for the job on M$ environement (IIS / MVC / WebForms / ASP.NET), but I would like to learn it on linux. Any suggestions of technologies ? <willwh> khloroform: yup <willwh> you want to do asp.net development in ubuntu? <willwh> or just web development? <dscassel> BluesKaj: Oh, yeah, I have no idea what kubuntu does. #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-05 <BluesKaj> Hiyas * genii-around makes a pot of coffee <genii-around> Anyone alive ? <genii-around> I just got back from an interesting meeting about this CRTC usage based billing. Bleh. <genii-around> There might be something like a one-minute overview later on Global's 6pm news but basically it was just an exercise in frustration. <dscassel> genii-around: Moderately alive, yes. <dscassel> The media doesn't get it. <dscassel> Fortunately, the government seems to, which is just weird. <dscassel> I'm not used to Tory cabinet ministers being sensible. <dscassel> Although if they really got it, they'd be talking about splitting up the monopolists to prevent them being wholesalers, retailers and content providers. <genii-around> But the main immediate problem for our ISP for instance is: We MUST collect the $2/GB overage from individual customers and remit it to Bell. Bell is not required. it's optional if they want to collect it or not from their subscribers. <dscassel> Yup <dscassel> I signed up with these guys this week: https://www.eyesurf.net/index.html <dscassel> (Kitchener-Waterloo only, unfortunately) <genii-around> And yet it's the same physical line. And we must remit immediately to bell the overage money, which can be conceivable up to $5000 per customer. This is from our pocket. Then we have to try and get this money after the fact from the heavy user that now owes US. We will be bankrupt in most 2 months <dscassel> Yup. It was obviously conceived in Bell's boardroom. The CRTC just rubber stamped it. <genii-around> which will not help us even if an act of parliament says they screwed up, etc. We will be dead by then and one less competitior to them <genii-around> sorry to rant but it's just... like that. <dscassel> Yup. * genii-around sips and thinks <hypatia> genii-around: was it a meeting with the CRTC or what? * hypatia once explained how Skype works to the current Chair <hypatia> that was lulz <genii-around> hypatia: No. A group "Online Party of Canada" and it's members decided to contact us (as being a small ISP affected) to invite us to a panel discussion with them and some others, with media present for a Q & A. CRTC declined to attend but were invited. <genii-around> !ping <lubotu1> ping-pong, a fun game for all the family <genii-around> OK, I'm alive again :) * hypatia nods <hypatia> cool <hypatia> gotta run now :) <genii-around> Have fun! <dscassel> genii-around: What's your ISP? <genii-around> dscassel: Toronto FreeNet <dscassel> Oh, awesome. <genii-around> dscassel: It is more or less a co-op <dscassel> Yeah. I was a member of National Capital Freenet about 15 years ago. <genii-around> dscassel: Yes, very similar idea <genii-around> So this whole thing will kill us and set back internet access for the marginalized <dscassel> Yeah, I can imagine. You're not about go to installng your own DSLAMs. <dscassel> Did you make a submission to the CRTC when they were asking for input? <dscassel> I'm guessing you were ignored... <genii-around> Not unless there's some sudden influx of large capital ( re the DSLAMs) <genii-around> dscassel: Yes, we were ignored because we are so small we are like the parasite that lives on the flea which lives on the animal which is Bell <dscassel> Poetic. :) <jaguar> lol <genii-around> Apologies if I sound bitter, but it is of course because I am <dscassel> genii-around: I don't think bitterness is unreasonable in this situation. * genii-around makes more coffee and passes the mugs around <genii-around> Guess I'll float around the web and wait for the 6pm Global thing to see what kind of slant they are getting on it in the 60 seconds or so they said it will likely occupy <dscassel> I'd tune in, but I canceled cable. :) <genii-around> Hah <genii-around> What I find weird is NetFlix having some kind of deal without overages from dslam to subscriber when they have no dslam equipment <dscassel> Weird. <genii-around> I *suspect* but cannot prove it is somehow because if Bell does that to them, it must charge overages on it's own on-demand video services <dscassel> The line between what is an anti-competitive action and what isn't seems to depend on what the end product. <genii-around> Yes, somewhat <genii-around> non-interactive content delivery like tv or interactive like irc or so... #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-06 <BluesKaj> Hey folks * genii-around sips his Timmys coffee <BluesKaj> genii-around, you must be desperate for a coffee :) <genii-around> BluesKaj: I actually like the java there :) <BluesKaj> really genii-around , I always found it weak and watery <genii-around> Maybe it depends on the local branch. Is not too bad around here. But I don't usually buy a cup there, I get a large can and make it at the office <BluesKaj> from tim's ? <genii-around> Yup <genii-around> They also sell the same stuff at the Longos store near here, maybe they have some deal going with Tim Hortons <BluesKaj> is it any good if brewed at home or office ? <genii-around> BluesKaj: I like that you can make it pretty strong and it's not bitter <BluesKaj> cool <BluesKaj> pricey ? <genii-around> BluesKaj: About $14 for a big can, so a bit <genii-around> My boss pays :) <BluesKaj> it's the "name" <BluesKaj> I like the president choice "great canadian coffee" <genii-around> Mother Parkers is the place where pretty much all the different brands in Canada originate. They have their own roasting ovens here and bring in bulk beans, then do different recipe/treatments depending on the retailer's spec <genii-around> PC brand is one of theirs actually <BluesKaj> ahh, interesting , but mother parkers , oh lord :P <genii-around> It sounds weird, but they are the ones with the equipment like ovens and so on in Canada. As for the beans for a particular customer like No Frills or whatnot, those are supplied by that customer. so Mother Parkers own stuff is actually different <genii-around> ( well, as coffee goes! ) <genii-around> My friend is one of the guys they send into the oven when it's turned off to shovel out all the charcoal and clean them out, etc. <BluesKaj> ok , so you have inside info .no pun intended <genii-around> BluesKaj: I've been there once with him on a quiet night for a tour, was pretty cool <hakimsheriff> Hey people <dougdastew> Hi all -- I am about to try some virtual machines in Ubuntu -- so my questuion is : what one is the best? <dougdastew> Xen --- VirtualBox VM kvm Qem??? <dougdastew> that should be qemu <dougdastew> I am going to put XP on it and Ubuntu11.04 #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-07 <KombuchaKip> http://dissolvethecrtc.ca <BluesKaj> Hiyas <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj <BluesKaj> 'Morning dscassel <genii-around> Bleh. After shovelling slush for a couple hours this morning I need a chiropractor <hakimsheriff> Hi all <dscassel> Hi, hakimsheriff <BluesKaj> you guys use aliases in ~/.bashrc ? <BluesKaj> I have a few working , but they're right at the prompt . How do I get a password alias to work after the sudo aptitude etc prompt is run <dscassel> BluesKaj: You mean use an alias for your password? <dscassel> I don't think you can... <dscassel> (It's also not an especially good idea...) <BluesKaj> yeah dscassel , I've heard ppl mention using a pw alias so they don't have to type it evertime they do sudo <BluesKaj> dscassel, I'm the only user on this pc . it's just wifey and I here ...our kids are grown and gone and the grandkids are far away as well <dscassel> The idea of storing my password in clear text on my harddrive makes me cringe a bit, is all. <genii-around> BluesKaj: You could conceivably do something like set variable SUDO_ASKPASS to a script which outputs automatically the password and then set sudo command to always be called with -A <BluesKaj> genii-around,in ~/.bashrc ? <genii-around> BluesKaj: I think I'd set the ASKPASS in rc.local, then the sudo alias in the bashr <genii-around> c*bashrc <BluesKaj> right genii-around , I'll try that, thanks :) <dscassel> Have a look at the /etc/sudoers file. You can turn off the password prompt altogether, or for a limited set of commands. <dscassel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers <genii-around> dscassel: Yes, I've often thought *buntu should have "sudo su" for instance an entry disabling it there <BluesKaj> ahh, thanks dscassel #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-08 <BluesKaj> Howdy * genii-around sips <BluesKaj> hi genii-around <genii-around> hiya BluesKaj * BluesKaj contemplates going for a walk in -12c temps ...not real cold for this area but still have to pull on the longjohns :P <genii-around> I like it when the snow is nice and crunchy at those temps <IMOTHEP> bonjour <IMOTHEP> sur ce canal vous vous exprimez en franÃ§ais ou en anglais ? sur ce canal vous vous exprimer en franÃ§ais ou en anglais ? //on the channel you speak French or English? <BluesKaj> heh, no patience <dscassel> It's possible they just read /topic. <genii-around> I idly wonder if they went to #ubuntu-qc ;) <BluesKaj> nope,not there <genii-around> je mal dans francais <dscassel> genii-around: I'm sure you know this already, but CRTC is asking for "feedback" on UBB from ISPs again: http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-77.htm <genii-around> dscassel: The boss was saying he wanted another emergency meeting, maybe this is whats on our agenda. Though I hadn't heard about it til now <genii-around> Thanks for the link <dscassel> np <dscassel> Good luck. :) <johanbr_> On the UBB question, it amazes me how many media commentators really don't understand the issues <johanbr_> It makes me wonder if they are equally clueless on other things, which I know less about myself <dscassel> johanbr_: scary, isn't it? <johanbr_> yep :( <BluesKaj> the "capitalist" types who think we're "America jr " here in Canada are agreeing with the pay-for-use approach and let the small ISPs fall by the wayside to Ogilopolies , are the problem ...Kevinb O'leary and Abdrew Coyne are spouting that philosophy all over the CBC <BluesKaj> correction : Kevin O'leary and Andrew Coyne <johanbr_> I guess they think a markup of a few thousand percent is fair <johanbr_> my girlfriend gets really annoyed whenever that business show with Kevin O'Leary and Amanda Lang happens to come on... she refers to it as "Beauty and the beast" <dscassel> There's some of that sentiment on the local LUG mailing list too, suprisingly. <dscassel> I'd have some sympathy for that argument if Bell wasn't so heavily subsidized by the government since its inception. <johanbr_> even if it hadn't been, capitalism doesn't work so well when a few companies have a very long head start and competing with them would require enormous investments <johanbr_> especially with something that's well on its way to becoming an essential service, if it isn't already <BluesKaj> johanbr_ , he's a "put on" as we used say , he's just a rich bozo who's there to create controversy to attract those who love to hate <johanbr_> yes, exactly... I hoped the CBC would be above that sort of thing <BluesKaj> W don't have the population to run US style ISPs , subsidy is necessary in this country due to our small population. I this was the US I'd still be on dialup. <BluesKaj> if this was <BluesKaj> I was chatting with musician chat friend in New Mexico . a town of 8000 ppl with no cable tv or even a local ISP dialup service , so he uses satellite internet at 110$ / mos <johanbr_> yikes <johanbr_> but that must be pretty remote - I also have friends in a New Mexico town of about that size, and they have Comcast <BluesKaj> johanbr_, well they're probly all on satellite , it's a retirement type town <johanbr_> ahh... <hakimsheriff> HI all #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-09 <BluesKaj> Hiyas #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-10 <BluesKaj> Hey <s-fox> o/ <dscassel> Morning, all <s-fox> Morning dscassel :) <s-fox> How are you? * genii-around makes a strong pot of coffee and thinks about chipping ice off the sidewalk <BluesKaj> genii-around, just throw some salt on it then cover it with snow <BluesKaj> it'll melt in no time <BluesKaj> but bare walks are dangerous in this weather ..a then film of ice is mor e dangerous then a bit of snow <BluesKaj> a thin film <gpc> or you could go the complete opposite way and toss a bucket of warm water on the sidewalk and in 20 minutes have yourself a mini skating rink <gpc> :) <BluesKaj> my neighbour has the drive way clear most of the time but the sun melts the snowband and the water runs on to the blck asphalt which absorbs heat causing more melting and then freezing when the sun sets ...really dangerous <genii-around> BluesKaj: It's under 0 Fahrenheit so the salt is ineffective :( * BluesKaj checks the kb...or is it these damn bifocals <BluesKaj> that's what the snow cover is for ..insulation <genii-around> Ah, interesting * genii-around sips and watches another pedestrian with an open umbrella para-sail into traffic like an ice-boat <BluesKaj> hehe <gpc> genii-around: the rock salt will also give better traction on ice even if it is not melting <BluesKaj> gpc, I'm 40mi west of sudbury , where are you located <BluesKaj> ? <gpc> Montreal <BluesKaj> aha , so you're used to cold as well <gpc> indeed <BluesKaj> some ppl use kitty litter for traction ,just don't use too much and not when it's mild ..tuns muddy <BluesKaj> turns <gpc> yeah, I have heard that. Cheaper to buy some sand and attracts less cats to your front steps <genii-around> I actually just went next door to the Greyhound station and asked the security for a 5 gallon of sand and spread that out along with some salt. At least they might get some traction now <dscassel> s-fox: Pretty good (sorry, meeting. :P) <genii-around> It's about a 2-3 foot strip all along the curb that the city should have got <s-fox> dscassel, No problem. <s-fox> I am glad you are okay. <gpc> genii-around: if you were in the US you could go out and "slip" then sue the city <s-fox> Goodbye. * genii-around spices up his coffee with a shot of whisky <hakimsheriff> Hi all #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-11 <ball> hello BobJonkman <BobJonkman> Hello ball ! <BluesKaj> Howdy <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj <BluesKaj> morning dscassel , how's things today ? <genii-around> http://torfree.net/ann/ubb.2011-44.html for anyone that's interested <BluesKaj> genii-around, thanks ..I've been meaning to sign it , now I have :) <genii-around> BluesKaj: Cool, every bit helps <BluesKaj> yeah, genii-around I emailed the link to some friends who I know will sign as well <genii-around> :) <BluesKaj> aint the 'net great ...so far :) <BluesKaj> even starts revolutions <genii-around> We're still experiencing growing pains... #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-12 <nefertiti> bonsoir Ã toutes et Ã tous <nefertiti> si quelqu'un croise yangg merci de le remercier de ma part : son aide a Ã©tÃ© prÃ©cieuse <nefertiti> question concernant GRUB suivant configuration particuliÃ¨re : 2 hdd ; 3 Os ; 2 ubuntu (810 & 1010 + Xp) ; Xp sur rack.. Suivant la nomemclature on dit de mettre le hdd oÃ¹ se trouve Grub en 1er sur le boot bios. Ce qui est logique. Mais <nefertiti> que se passe t(il si l'on retire le rack . Comment rÃ©agit GRUB ? plante t'il ? <nefertiti> si quelqu'un a dÃ©jÃ l'expÃ©rience, j'apprÃ©cierai qu'il la transmette <gpc> nefertiti: si tu retire le HDD ou grub est installer, rien boot <nefertiti> gpc on est d'accord sur ce point. Mais inversement si je retire le rack. Grub plante t'il parce qu'il lui manque un os ? <gpc> bonne question, pas sure. <nefertiti> Xp est l'Os placÃ© sur le rack <gpc> il ne devrait pas planter, ubuntu devrais booter to de meme <gpc> peut etre demander dans #ubuntu-fr <gpc> tou* <nefertiti> gpc si je saisi bien ce que tu me dis : Grub ira - rires : j'en ai Ã©tÃ© banni parce que j'ai prouvÃ© Ã modo qu'il disait des conneries. Faut jamais faire cela rires <nefertiti> gpc donc Grub ne tient compte que de la prÃ©sence de l'Os par dÃ©faut - celui qui se lance au bout d'un temps donnÃ©. C'est bien ce que je dois comprendre ? <gpc> oui <nefertiti> gpc merci <gpc> ben non <gpc> mais si l' OS de default est present il devrait pas y avoir de probleme <nefertiti> ok gpc merci beaucoup <nefertiti> je te souhaite bonne journÃ©e ainsi qu'Ã la communautÃ© <NEFERTITI> gpc une derniÃ¨re question : pour mettre Grub sur une partition spÃ©cifique Ã lui : combien d'espace sont prÃ©conisÃ©s ? je n'ai pas trouvÃ© l'info sur les sites ou forum traitant de l'espace Ã attribuer <gpc> aucune idee :) <NEFERTITI> gpc 1 go te parait disproportionnÃ© ou bien au contraire c'est trop peu ? <gpc> ca devrais suffir <NEFERTITI> ok merci <NEFERTITI> by <NEFERTITI> e <nefertiti> re bonjour <nefertiti> toujours au sujet de GRUB est-il possible de programmer des changements dans le menu des Os ? <BluesKaj> Hi Folks #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-13 <BluesKaj> Hiyas <hakimsheriff> Hi people <BluesKaj> hi hakimsheriff <hakimsheriff> Just made my own irc channel : ##sheriff <BluesKaj> hakimsheriff, for ? <hakimsheriff> different topics everytime <hakimsheriff> mostly if anyone needs to contact me <hakimsheriff> and also for many of my online activities <BluesKaj> IC <hakimsheriff> "I see" said the blind man <BluesKaj> hakimsheriff, I'll pretend I didn't see that remark :) <hakimsheriff> why? #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-14 <BluesKaj> Hi folks <billybigrigger> anyone awake? <billybigrigger> preferably someone with a windows partition who can send me mfc42.dll <billybigrigger> need it for a work program to work in wine, and this is about the only place i can trust to ask the channel for a windows dll <dscassel> Sort of awake.. <dscassel> What version of Windows? #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-15 <BluesKaj> Hi all <dscassel> Morning. <BluesKaj> 'Morning dscassel <dscassel> Meeting in 5 minutes. (ish) <hakimsheriff> Is there a meeting now? <dscassel> Yeah. #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-16 <dscassel> IRC meeting! <dscassel> Mass call: [thor] FiReSTaRT hypatia IdleOne J2 james_w johanbr Kamondelious kenjy KombuchaKip Kulag ryanakca sipherdee txwikinger willwh zul <FiReSTaRT> hey darcy <FiReSTaRT> caught me at a good time :) <FiReSTaRT> for a change <KombuchaKip> dscassel: Need to hop in the shower soon. <FiReSTaRT> renos done, house basically sold <dscassel> Agenda: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/7/detail/ <dscassel> KombuchaKip: No worries, drop in when you can. <txwikinger> hi dscassel <txwikinger> hi dscassel <FiReSTaRT> hey txwikinger <KombuchaKip> dscassel: Thanks <hakimsheriff> ill be coming and going since i have to do some homework <txwikinger> hi FiReSTaRT <dscassel> Feel free to introduce yourself. <FiReSTaRT> hi, my name is FiReSTaRT and I'm a alco.. oops wrong meeting <FiReSTaRT> i'll get the newbs started <dscassel> Heh. <BobJonkman> Hi all! Just got home, won't be at Kwartzlab tonite. Sorry. <sipherdee> hi! :) <FiReSTaRT> in seriousness, my name's Ilija, live in the GTA, work as a GIS technician and also doing tech support for a small ISP.. been using ubuntu since hardy (a couple of years ago), basically advanced desktop user with a bit of admin experience, zero coding.. other distros i've used are arch and openwrt <txwikinger> hi BobJonkman <dscassel> Glad you could make it virtually, BobJonkman <FiReSTaRT> hi BobJonkman and sipherdee.. same goes for you hakimsheriff (gl with the hw) <dscassel> So I'm Darcy and I'm an official LoCo contact, apparently. I'll be your host for this evening. <dscassel> I've been using Linux since 1999 and Ubuntu since 2005 (since Breezy) * txwikinger is the other official LoCo contact who is leaning back and let Darcy run the show <hakimsheriff> FiReSTaRT: thanks <[thor]> ? <dscassel> Hi [thor]. We're having a meeting, if you're interested. * FiReSTaRT gives dscassel the dreaded "it's GNU/Linux" correction! <[thor]> i sure am, is it here? or in another channel? <FiReSTaRT> [thor]: right here <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: I only used the kernel, so I'm good. j/k. * [thor] pulls up a capacitor. <txwikinger> well.. then y9ou have to say GNU/Linux + a whole other bunch of stuff <FiReSTaRT> acceptable short form being GNU/Linux <dscassel> Anyway! <BobJonkman> gnux == GNU/Linux <dscassel> I prefer "Ubuntu." <dscassel> Which is why we're here! <FiReSTaRT> note to the newbs: imagine your whole operating system and everything that comes with it as a car... the linux kernel is the engine, the suspension/wheels/body/seats etc etc etc come from GNU :P * FiReSTaRT shuts up <dscassel> So. Events. <dscassel> Now's the time to plan for the Global Jam <dscassel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam <txwikinger> ok.. How many local chapters/places plan to do something? <dscassel> We'll be jamming on April 2 in Waterloo. I've got to do a bit of work to start organizing that. <dscassel> A GTA jam would be awesome. (hint hint) <FiReSTaRT> i'd be willing to assist someone who's already organized something here <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: Nobody's organized a Jam in Toronto before. <dscassel> hypatia has thrown a release party. <FiReSTaRT> even a release party <FiReSTaRT> ok.. i can assist then with whatever she needs to get done behind the scenes so she can focus on the big picture <dscassel> And her release party was "Hey, let's meet up at Linuxcaffe!" You could do that. :) <BobJonkman> This year the Global Jam conflicts with all kinds of things: Elmira Maple Syrup Festival, the Mayor's Dinner in Kitchener... <FiReSTaRT> darcy: so i make it a 3 day event or just 1-day? <dscassel> BobJonkman: I can't eat maple syrup. ;_; <txwikinger> BobJonkman: Are you buddy with the Kitchener Mayor? <BobJonkman> Not yet, maybe after dinner... <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: The global jam spans the weekend, but we're only doing one day. <txwikinger> Maybe we should have the Jam at the dinner <dscassel> (By we, I mean kitchener-waterloo) <dscassel> txwikinger: Yeah. :) <dscassel> Unfortuately, since it's a Global Jam, it can't really move. It didn't move for me last cycle. <BobJonkman> That is, the Global Jam conflicts with all kinds of things on >Saturday< <FiReSTaRT> sunday might even be better even though many would be working with major hangovers <dscassel> Sunday's an option, I suppose. <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: Any time that weekend that's convenient for organizing something is good. <txwikinger> Well. the Global Jam is usually Friday to Sunday <txwikinger> We could use one of the days, or do different things on different days <txwikinger> We can try to synchronize between different events in Canada <txwikinger> which could help by doing i.e. presentations with remote participation <FiReSTaRT> i could get Linuxcaffe booked and notify the community, but getting people organized to actually do something would fall outside of my scope of expertise as i've only done minor ui translations on the FLOSS scene <txwikinger> Or we could take a problem and work collaboratively to solve it <FiReSTaRT> in addition to some user support and testing <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: txwikinger was saying you could tune in with whatever talk or help we (ie., he) might be giving here) <dscassel> Dunno if they have a acolon@example.com. <dscassel> Hacklab.to might be an alternative, if hypatia is willing to help. <FiReSTaRT> i can always ask <dscassel> Yeah, drop her a line. :) <BobJonkman> Yes, Linuxcaffe has a projector and a sound system <FiReSTaRT> i'd like to stay away from downtown as much as possible <dscassel> BobJonkman: cool. <FiReSTaRT> if we're bringing computer gear, something accessable by car and with ample parking space would be for the best <BobJonkman> Linuxcaffe has ample parking space. For bicycles. Cars, not so much. <FiReSTaRT> kensington is also a bad option for cars <FiReSTaRT> i'll see if there's anything in the west end, accessable by subway, with the right setup <FiReSTaRT> the east end is already packed <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: There's parking, it just might not be exceedingly convenient. <txwikinger> ok.. let's think about it and send something on the mailing list and come with some ideas and more concrete venues and times the next meeting <FiReSTaRT> ok.. sounds like a plan.. so we can move on <dscassel> Also, it's not too early to think about release parties. <FiReSTaRT> so we basically need to have a decent Internet connection, easy access and a projector? <dscassel> Natty releases on the 28th. <txwikinger> FiReSTaRT: That would help if you want to have remote suppoirt <BobJonkman> That's 28 April... <txwikinger> BobJonkman: yes <txwikinger> 11.04 :D <FiReSTaRT> the new ui will make things interesting... i'll have to try out some of the alphas just to see what it looks like now.. already got a partition for that <BobJonkman> I'm not sure everyone realizes that the Ubuntu version number is Year.Month -- it took me a while <dscassel> Thanks, BobJonkman <dscassel> Yeah, I've heard lots of people talk about "version 10" etc. * FiReSTaRT brb <hakimsheriff> BobJonkman: I never really noticed that <dscassel> Anybody else want to run a jam and/or party? :) <dscassel> I'll prod people some more on the mailing list. <dscassel> It's not hard. Especially that party. <BobJonkman> The parties don't need anything except a location and people. <dscassel> Anyway, next up is the website. <dscassel> http://ubuntu-ca.org/ <dscassel> Needs some love, really. <BobJonkman> About the same as last IRC meeting, methinks <BobJonkman> It's still not my one-stop Go-To site. <dscassel> BobJonkman: Yeah, except the mircoblog feed seems to have disappeared. <dscassel> (since it was breaking the theme, I'm not too upset about that) <BobJonkman> Instead, I'm still doing searches for "Ubuntu+loco+Canada" or "wiki.ubuntu.com+meetings" <dscassel> BobJonkman: Do you have time to work on it? <dscassel> You know drupal, right? :) * BobJonkman runs and hides <dscassel> Heh. :P <BobJonkman> I've been going to Drupal meetings for about a year. <BobJonkman> I've been maintaining some pages on someone else's Drupal site, but only as a a content editor. <BobJonkman> And I have a commercial Joomla site I've been neglecting. <dscassel> BobJonkman: That's mostly what we need here. <BobJonkman> So, would you trust this man with your keys to your Drupal server? <txwikinger> I gave the current theme to someone to port to drupal 7 <dscassel> The theme could be tweeked, but that's not as important as getting useful content. <txwikinger> I have no idea of the status atm <BobJonkman> OK, I can put up the links and info I find useful. <BobJonkman> Chances are, it'll be useful to someone else too. Scratch my own itch. <FiReSTaRT> that's what FLOSS is all about <BobJonkman> Then if someone else does the theming my stuff might actually look good. <FiReSTaRT> help others by scratching your own itch <dscassel> Awesome. :D <dscassel> BobJonkman: I think you've got all the access you need, right? <BobJonkman> Just tried logging in with Launchpad's OpenID, and get the error " Only site administrators can create new user accounts." <BobJonkman> So, no. <dscassel> BobJonkman: Have you tried recently? <BobJonkman> Mere seconds ago <dscassel> Ah. <dscassel> BobJonkman: I'm prodding txwikinger to look into it. <dscassel> We fixed it for hakimsheriff. <hakimsheriff> It just stopped working <hakimsheriff> it says the same thing as BobJonkman <hakimsheriff> the way to log in changed! <dscassel> I can't log in either. <dscassel> We'll work on sorting that out tonight. <dscassel> That it for the website? <BobJonkman> Two cents on Ubuntu Hours? <dscassel> BobJonkman: Go ahead. <BobJonkman> Cent One: I was sorry to read of the demise of the Ottawa Ubuntu Hour. <dscassel> Yeah. :/ I have hope, though. There were other people meeting besides George. <BobJonkman> Cent Two: I'm free on Thursday mornings until the end of March, so I'll be hanging out a the Little Bean Coffee Bar from 11:00am to about 12:30pm Thursday mornings. <txwikinger> Bob.. I got in now.. I had the same problem like you <txwikinger> BobJonkman: Did you use openId? <BobJonkman> So, Ubuntucakw can have additional Ubuntu Hours for a limited time only <dscassel> BobJonkman: Sure, if you want we'll advertise. <BobJonkman> txwikinger: Yes, using a proxy from my site to Launchpad's OpenID service <dscassel> I'll move my hour back to Waterloo. :) <dscassel> Well, if there's nothing else, I'll wrap up. <dscassel> Motion to adjourn? * BobJonkman motions <dscassel> I'll pretend txwikinger seconds. <dscassel> Thanks everyone, and good night. :) * txwikinger pretend he never heard a motion <dscassel> I'll be around for a bit if you want to chat informally. :) <dscassel> And txwikinger is busily working on the log in thing. <FiReSTaRT> i'm about to post a comment on the blog for the hell of it :P <BobJonkman> I missed the first four minutes of the meeting, but I can grab that from locobot if you want me to post meeting minutes * BobJonkman laments the English language, and the overloading of nouns like "minutes" <dscassel> BobJonkman: Sure, that would be helpful. <BobJonkman> Never did set a datetime for the next IRC meeting <dscassel> BobJonkman: Logs were created automatically. :) <dscassel> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings//7/detail/ * BobJonkman clicks and gets "This Page Does Not Exist!" <BobJonkman> Ah, too many slashes. <BobJonkman> But even then... <txwikinger> !start meeting <txwikinger> @start meeting <BobJonkman> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2011/02/16/%23ubuntu-ca.html <BobJonkman> But >I< have logs with timestamps! <dscassel> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/16/%23ubuntu-ca.html#t00:00 has timestamps. :) <BobJonkman> Oooh, pretty! <BobJonkman> txwikinger: I can log in with OpenID now, but it thinks I'm a different bjonkman <txwikinger> BobJonkman: How many of you are there? <BobJonkman> Should be just the one of me, currently logged in to ubuntu-ca.org <txwikinger> BobJonkman: I only see one of you there <txwikinger> How did you log in? <hakimsheriff> The website still odesnt work for me <tm0> Hey Ubuntu CA <tm0> Whats shaking? <tm0> I see a lot is shaking. <Kamondelious> dscassel, hey hi. sorry I'm late replying <dscassel> Kamondelious: Hi. :) You kind of mised the meeting. <dscassel> tm0: So, you'll run a Jam in Peterborough, right? <dscassel> :D <tm0> If i can find the name of that cafe <dscassel> There are no guarantees, but between the 2-3 Peterborough people on the mailing list and whatever exists of PLUG, you should be about to get people. <tm0> I want to get at least 5 people gaurrented, there is already three. <hakimsheriff> dscassel: I cant log in to the website anymore :( <tm0> How is the website? Is it hosted off-Ubuntu yet? <tm0> @Dcassel btw <tm0> @*dcassel btw <dscassel> hakimsheriff: We know. txwikinger is looking into it. <dscassel> tm0: It's off-Canonical, yeah. <hakimsheriff> dscassel: I have to go, bye <dscassel> Later. :) <tm0> Great, maybe i'll be able to work a free or discounted theme off of Audentio <tm0> Is it wordpress or Drupal? <dscassel> Drupal. <dscassel> There's a guy who's working on the theme. Not sure what the status is there. <dscassel> We want to keep it similar to the standard Ubuntu theme, for branding consistency. <tm0> Well i can get a discount at audentio, i help mange <tm0> *manage <dscassel> tm0: Cool. Chat with txwikinger. He's pretty much in charge of the website. <tm0> txwikinger you around? <tm0> Meh, they do amazzzzzzzing work. <tm0> Well i'll have to check that later, i have a test and i have to call some colleges tomorrow. <tm0> Night Ubuntu Canada. <tm0> I'm glad i'm back <dscassel> 'night. :) <dscassel> Meeting minutes posted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-02-15 <BluesKaj> Howdy <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj <BluesKaj> "Morning dscassel <cyphermox> morning all ;) <IdleOne> morning cyphermox <cyphermox> hey IdleOne :) <IdleOne> cyphermox: Let me know if you need help manning the table at GeekFest <cyphermox> sure thing <IdleOne> is Canonical gonna be giving some goodies :) * IdleOne would like a back pack hehe <cyphermox> IdleOne, I can get you a backpack, I ordered the new model, still have the old <cyphermox> it's in good shape <IdleOne> hahaha <IdleOne> I was mostly kidding <cyphermox> but I'm not. I have no need to keep the old one <IdleOne> That is very nice of you dude. <cyphermox> I ordered tons of paper and plastic stickers too, so I'll have that <IdleOne> Are we getting a conference pack for this event? <cyphermox> ah, I don't think so, honestly. I doubt anyone asked for it and I'm afraid we're kind of late <cyphermox> can try now <IdleOne> I ask because if you need CDs or DVD's burned let me know <cyphermox> IdleOne, I think I'll bring one of the last boxes we have of CDs to hand out <IdleOne> ah, ok. <cyphermox> I'll split them between that, the global jam, and ubuntu hour, shouldn't be too bad <IdleOne> We can always burn more for Ubuntu hours <cyphermox> right <IdleOne> just be nice to give the pressed CDs at GeekFest <cyphermox> but I would rather hand out pressed CDs at Hour and Geekfest <cyphermox> right <cyphermox> it's mostly because for people you don't know, it looks a little better, more professional <IdleOne> exactly <IdleOne> Only thing I don't understand is why they are charging an extra $20 for the video game show thing <dscassel> IdleOne: This is a conference? <IdleOne> dscassel: umm not sure if you would call it a conference to be honest <IdleOne> let me link you <dscassel> I think the definition is kind of loose, but we might be able to order you a conference pack. <IdleOne> the link is in French <cyphermox> dscassel, we'll be fine for the conf pack I think -- I'll ask Fabian to file in the order. the issue is it's March 5, so really soon :) <IdleOne> http://geekfestmtl.com/ <dscassel> cyphermox: Ah, cool. :) <IdleOne> I was about to say see if cyphermox or magicfab want to order one. I was more asking for info to be honest <dscassel> People like schwag. :) <IdleOne> yeah <cyphermox> IdleOne, "at least 4 weeks prior" <IdleOne> I hope I get a call today about this job I applied for at the airport <cyphermox> doubtful we can get stuff on time <IdleOne> cyphermox: if we have enough CDs that is cool <cyphermox> IdleOne, i'm sure we do <IdleOne> cyphermox: when we start the Quebec install fest tour i think we will need more lol <cyphermox> hehe yeah I guess <cyphermox> fwiw I have a local mirror of cdimages, so we can use that to burn stuff <IdleOne> context: one of the guys on the -qc team suggested we do a tour of the major cities in Quebec <IdleOne> We can all sleep in his van <IdleOne> heh <dscassel> If you do, you definitely need to get someone to blog about it. :) <dscassel> Possibly a video documentary. :D <cyphermox> dscassel, identica! <cyphermox> one post every 15 minutes <cyphermox> :D <dscassel> With pictures. <IdleOne> dscassel: I would be willing to do such a tour but funding would be an issue for me. <dscassel> See if RMS will share his "list of people who will let me crash at their place" list. <cyphermox> IdleOne, honestly though, it wasn't so much a Quebec tour as a tour of nearby Ubuntu Hour places <IdleOne> true <cyphermox> IdleOne, Ottawa was on the list <IdleOne> I think Ottawa is very doable for us in Montreal <cyphermox> not sure how much I am willing to make it to Kitchener and back in two days <dscassel> Sadly, the Ottawa hour may be defunct. One of the main organizers has left the community, and they haven't rescheduled. <cyphermox> ah <dscassel> Getting out of towners might be motivation to get back on track, though. :) <IdleOne> Zykotic left the community? <dscassel> Yeah. "Not using Ubuntu anymore" he said. <IdleOne> shame <dscassel> Yeah. :/ <IdleOne> Do you know why? <dscassel> No idea. I never got a chance to talk to him in person. <IdleOne> not using Ubuntu doesn't mean he can't host Ubuntu hours. <dscassel> I was hoping to get to the Ottawa Hour this year sometime. <dscassel> It's a bit of a drive for me... <dscassel> But I have family there. <dscassel> IdleOne: I know! :) <IdleOne> Well then I think soon as the weather clears up a little we need to see what we can do to get Ottawa interested again. <dscassel> Awesome. :) <IdleOne> My car is not in shape for winter driving <IdleOne> I know there is at least one person from the -qc team who would come there with me. <dscassel> Yeah, I'd love to tour around and do Ubuntu Hours in different cities. I'm trying to sort out logistics. <dscassel> I don't get a whole lot of vacation. <IdleOne> that is the main problem, time and money of course <BluesKaj> what about the Linux-cafe i toronto , has either of you visited there ? <IdleOne> haven't been to TO in 12+ years <dscassel> BluesKaj: I went to hypatia's Maverick release party there. :) <dscassel> That was my first time. <dscassel> Nice little place. <dscassel> Perfect for hours. <dscassel> The Toronto Ubuntu Hour has just about happened for about a year now. <BluesKaj> nd dscassel, hope it was fun ;0 <dscassel> BluesKaj: Yeah, it was a good time. <BluesKaj> ubuntu hours , what's that? <dscassel> BluesKaj: An informal meetup. Ubuntu folks in a cafe for an hour. <IdleOne> or 4 :) <dscassel> Yeah. :) <IdleOne> in Montreal our hours tend to run long <IdleOne> hehe, not complaining because it is always fun <BluesKaj> ok, but I prefer beer ..2 coffees in the morning is enuff :) <dscassel> BluesKaj: You could have an Ubuntu Hour in a bar, I suppose, but some people wouldn't be able to go <dscassel> (less of an issue in Quebec, I suppose. :) <BluesKaj> both montreal and toronto , even ottawa are over 5 hr drives for me <IdleOne> you know I have thought about the whole alcohol thing at Ubuntu Hours and the last few times I went we had a nice man show up but he always says he doesn't drink and the first thing he asks is if there is any alcohol. <IdleOne> MagicFab hosts the Montreal one and I think he wants to keep it open to teenagers also. Make sure everybody is welcome. <BluesKaj> well, if they're too young to drink then they'll probly have social probs anyway,. being linux geeks 'n all :) <IdleOne> heh <dscassel> BluesKaj: Where are you again? I'm sure I've asked.. <IdleOne> ^^ <BluesKaj> 40mins west of sudbury <dscassel> Ah, yeah, a bit far. :) <dscassel> tm0 might be starting up events in Peterborough, but that's not much closer. <BluesKaj> I drive to toronto to visit my kids etc, but I won't just for a linux lunch :) <IdleOne> For those who may be in Montreal beginning of March cyphermox added the Montreal Geekfest to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceAppearances <cyphermox> IdleOne, I'd definitely go to ottawa too for visiting... plus I have a friend studying CompSci there <IdleOne> cyphermox: in that case we need to get in sync with dscassel and see when we can go wake those folks up :) <dscassel> IdleOne, cyphermox: Are you guys on the ubuntu-ca mailing list? <IdleOne> of course <dscassel> That's where these things seem to be organized. <cyphermox> dscassel, I only just subscribed, it was long overdue ;) <cyphermox> did this yesterday or so <dscassel> Drop a message there and see if you can prod people. <IdleOne> dscassel: well someone in Ottawa needs to organize. We don't want to show up and say "Where is everybody?" <BluesKaj> I gguess I'm really marginalized ..I run kde :) <dscassel> Definitely, but asking about it might motivate Chuck or James (the other Ottawa attendees) to start something. <IdleOne> KDE people are also welcome, but you have to sit at the back <dscassel> I should email them, probably. <BluesKaj> IdleOne, nobody is gonna tell me where to sit :) <dscassel> BluesKaj: txwikinger is a kubuntu zealot. He'll make sure you're well represented. <IdleOne> BluesKaj: :) <txwikinger> ? <IdleOne> txwikinger: you in Ottawa? <dscassel> txwikinger: BluesKaj was feeling left out for using KDE. <txwikinger> IdleOne: no Waterloo Region <IdleOne> ok <txwikinger> dscassel: Well.. All those Gnomies need to grow up before they can use something substantial ;p <IdleOne> hahaha <IdleOne> them there is fighting words <BluesKaj> txwikinger, I said these ubuntu types can have their cartooney desktop , but we kde real man users are marginalized due it's unrecognized excellence <txwikinger> btw.. I am not really a zealot.. I think everybody should use whatever they like <dscassel> So long as what they like is kubuntu, of course. <IdleOne> I like KDE and have used it, just prefer gnome <txwikinger> dscassel: Who knows.. maybe I start my own distro <txwikinger> wait.. I have my own distro already :) <IdleOne> you do? <txwikinger> Well.. I think I am the only one left doing anything on ichthux <IdleOne> never heard of it <IdleOne> hehe <BluesKaj> my prefernce lies with kde due my use of windows OSs for so many yrs ojn the job , it has a more familiar "look" to me . <txwikinger> rumours.. rumours <txwikinger> You can make any desktop "look like" Windows * txwikinger uses KDE because of oen reason.. It uses Qt instead of the annoying GTK <cyphermox> ratpoison ftw! <BluesKaj> W3.1,'95,'98 ..I've been retired for 11 yrs and running linux since 2002 <BluesKaj> wifw still runs vista and won't switch <BluesKaj> wife * txwikinger 's household has not used MS in ages <BluesKaj> good stuff txwikinger :) * txwikinger has never understood why the same people who started Gnome (claiming licence issues with Qt) are now the proponents for mono <txwikinger> but anyway.. what gives.. Open Source seem to be as much politics as is going on in the parliaments of most nations * dscassel isn't going there. * dscassel agrees the politics thing is futile and frustrating. <BluesKaj> txwikinger, well some ubuntu users are so purist , that anything Qt is like poison in their food <txwikinger> Qt has a better licensing than GTK today * dscassel doesn't get too hung up on licensing. <IdleOne> I let the lawyers worry about licensing and Use what works for me * dscassel acknowledges its importance, however. * BluesKaj ran "pure kde " commands yestrday , altho I do miss synaptic ...wish muon had the fix broken packages option altho , dpkg --configure -a is probly what it uses <BluesKaj> synaptic that is <dscassel> Anyway, txwikinger, didn't you hear? Qt will ship with Natty! You can switch! <txwikinger> dscassel: No.. Ubuntu will have the qt libs as default on the CD.. that is the only difference.. that does not mean that all Gnome apps are using Qt <BluesKaj> natty is broken as hell, especially for nvidia drivers , and the new X stack is a mess <txwikinger> what new X stack... wayland is not default for some time to come <dscassel> BluesKaj: We've got two months. It'll be fine. :) <BluesKaj> dscassel, gawd I hope so ...I almost have some my bandmates talked into Linux and now this :) <dscassel> Lunch! Back in an hour. :) <BluesKaj> txwikinger, the guys at +1 told me the new Xserver is being installed as default <txwikinger> No idea.. I had no time at all to look at natty yet <txwikinger> Well.. I did some work for KDE packaging in December or so, but have no run it yet <BluesKaj> txwikinger, , I tried natty for a few weeks but X broke badly so I reverted both linux boxes , there was no rescuing them <BluesKaj> din't lose any data tho ...using a /home partitionon both <txwikinger> Well.. we are far to early in the release cycle to expect any stable production qaulity.. so that is not unusual <txwikinger> If you have the same problem with the release candidates.. than it is time to worry <BluesKaj> yeah, well, the last 3 or so OS upgrades were a lot less bumpy <willwh> .........wow :) <willwh> hi guys :) <BluesKaj> hi willwh <willwh> how is everyone? <willwh> haven't seen the channel buzzing for a while ;) <willwh> and ofc, I missed the meeting, again ^_^ <BluesKaj> some are at lunch ...what meeting? :) <willwh> looks like the irc meeting took place yesterday? <txwikinger> willwh: there is a log somewhere <willwh> s'ok, I run irssi ;] <willwh> client always here <dscassel> Woo, irssi! <willwh> yes indeed <willwh> with screen_away.pl -> why would you want to use anythign else/ :D <willwh> irssi + screen + ssh tunnel ftw. <txwikinger> willwh: quassel can do the same but has a nicer GUI if you don't want to remember all the commands <willwh> oh, I used to use quassel <willwh> but there were a few things that irked me <willwh> and tbh - I much prefer a shell to gui :) <BluesKaj> quassel is fugly ..konversation is my fav <BluesKaj> splitsville! * genii-around sips <BluesKaj> +7C here , genii-around ...the melt is underway <IdleOne> -7C here <genii-around> BluesKaj: Yup! Supposed to rain around around here and be warm until Sat or Sun <BluesKaj> it'll be there soon , IdleOne #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-17 <FiReSTaRT> txwikinger: do you by any chance know what's the right # for OSM? i see you in #joomla, but i'm a better spatial analyst than a cms coder :P <FiReSTaRT> nm i found it <dscassel> BobJonkman: You should post your Ubuntu Hour to the loco directory. :) <dscassel> I'm on vacation next week. So I'll probably drop by for that one. <BluesKaj> Hiyas <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj <BluesKaj> "Morning dscassel <txwikinger> FiReSTaRT: OSM (= OpenStreetMap) is on a different IRC server system (not freenode) <txwikinger> FiReSTaRT: server irc.oftc.net, room #osm <txwikinger> FiReSTaRT: see also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners'_guide #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-18 <BluesKaj> Hiyas * genii-around sips #ubuntu-ca 2011-02-20 <ule> Good morning, Bonjour! <BluesKaj> Howdy <ule> I think it is so cold in Canada today... because nobody say nothing on the channel <ule> :P <BluesKaj> is it cold where you are , ule ? <ule> No!! I think it is 28 C right now. <ule> bbl, take a shower <ule> BluesKaj: Where are you from? <BluesKaj> Northern Ontario, ule...and you ? <ule> BluesKaj: I'm from Brazil <ule> BluesKaj: nice to meet you <BluesKaj> ok , nice to see you too , ule <ule> BluesKaj: I'm learning english in a Canadian school. So.. I want to be with canadians to get more vocabulary, slangs, and idiomatic expressions.. <BluesKaj> ok, looks to me like you're already well versed in common canadian english <ule> ya <ule> I hope improve my English every day <ule> BluesKaj: Are
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