@hamfish: "I'll mention depression to make it a bit more on topic........
Opinion is divided as to whether coffee helps with depression or makes it 
worse.  But I love the stuff, and have recently gotten quite into drinking 
espresso.  So I bought myself one of these.
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Which uses bicycle pump technology to provide the pressure, and kettle 
technology to provide the hot water.
Its great, but only makes a single shot of espresso at a time.  I like a 
double, so I have to fill it up twice.
Then I saw this
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So I bought one of them too, despite being skint.  It arrived today and I 
have to say of the two I like it better it's a lot quicker and makes a 
double shot in one go.  So I'm going to use the wee one with the pump to 
take to work and to my brother's at the weekend and use the big one for at 
home.  I'll let you all know if I get more or less depressed as a result of 
drinking espresso every day.
:o) "
    @AlfyDoor: ""Lachlan - KotU" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I cannot make a cup of coffee.  It's a constant source of frustration 
because I love a  'good'  cup, but everytime I try it tastes like vinegar. 
I've tried all kinds of instant and more expensive, and filter and 
coffee-makers etc.  Nothing works.  I haven't tried for yonks.
The cafe down the road makes great coffee, but it seems a bit indulgent 
going out on your own just for a decent cuppa... "
    @growl4me: ""AlfyDoor" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Hi,
...at least it's an excuse to get out of the house for a bit.
KEZ "
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i only have one cup a day, but i don't think it affects me depression wise. 
OTOH, drinking alcohol affects me quite a bit the next day.  quite 
depressed. "
    @AlfyDoor: ""Mandy" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Tried everything Hon. Milk, sugar, Coffeemate...  Nothing works. Maybe it's 
the water here.
Thing is, I used to go there a lot with my ex. It was kinda 'our' place. 
Lovely chicken sandwiches too..."
    @hamfish: ""AlfyDoor" <email_address> wrote in message 
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You could try making it with bottled water.  Highland Spring's probably your 
best bet, there's no carbonates in the water up here in downtown Scotchland. "
    @AlfyDoor: ""Lachlan - KotU" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Yep, done that, even though I'm up here in Scotchland meself.
Y'know what? I'm gonna give it another try.  There's no logical reason I can 
be the only bloke in the western world who can't make a decent cup of coffee 
with the same ingredients and methods as everybody else. "
    @hamfish: ""AlfyDoor" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Aye, where abouts in downtown Scotchland are you?
I'd certainly recommend one of them Presso things, if you have �70 kicking 
about the house.  I tried making a latte tonight, 2 shot espresso in a cup 
of milk I'd heated in the M-wave.  Fantastic, it truly was :o)"
    @sht: "<quote>
Instant coffee is quite dreadful usually, but we had some instant coffee
granules from Starbucks which was not great but certainly decent. I can't
recall for sure, but I think we had it on our trip. Good for a quick cup in
the room.
"But it seems that lots of posters here seem to think it's acceptable to
behave towards me like a poisonous turd.  I think all such posters - and
I do mean you, Firth, not to mention that Tim Streeter creature, David
Kennedy, and various other dung beetles masqerading as human beings - I
think all of you are quite despicable and a blight on society."
Rowland McDonnell - Keeper of the Dung Beetles - Oct 14, 2008"
    @AlfyDoor: "news:htp53l$rlk$<email_address>
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Dundee - where the cup-winners play (if not the deer and the
antelope...)
Much thanks for the info Lach, as a result of which I've spent some time 
reading up about coffee, espresso and Presso machines!
I've never really drunk espresso before, and I though it was pretty strong 
stuff? I generally prefer a milder coffee. Can you do that with these 
machines? Saying that, I had an espresso this morning from the vending 
machine at work (I know!). It was awful of course, but I can see the 
possibilities in a good cup/shot. What kind of coffee/grounds do you use?
I have to say I'm quite tempted by this."
    @hamfish: ""AlfyDoor" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Dundee eh?  I used to go out there quite a lot, although I don't remember 
most of the time I spent there.  My nephew lived on Mary Slessor Square 
which was our base of operations for nights out.  Not been there for at 
least 10 years now.
Well, espresso itself is pretty strong, but its served in wee tiny cups.  To 
make an "americano" just pour one or two shots into a cup and fill it up 
with hot water, leaving room for milk if you want.  Or adding them to a cup 
of hot milk gives you a latte.  Half milk, half foam gives you a cappuccino. 
It says in the instructions to experiment with different grinds of coffee, 
different brewing times, things like that.  Probably the best coffee I've 
had so far is the Illy espresso stuff in the tin, but its pretty dear at �6 
for 250g.  Lavazza red is decent too."
    @AlfyDoor: "news:hu6v9h$717$<email_address>
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Hi Lach,
I'm just up the road from your old haunt - Perth Road, which I'm sure you
must have wandered up on occasion. Plenty of pubs. A favourite for pub
crawls - though I've never made it all the way to the bottom meself...
I've ordered a Presso, after reading up on all the variants you can make
from it. Looking forward to it. I'll let'cha know how it goes.
Sorry you're not so good right now. I'm just off to my shrink myself this 
morning. Bad and good-ish to report, but I generally feel a little better 
after leaving him.
Stay lucky mate."
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