@carlrobson: "Got the rangie idling nice on LPG.
Got it idling better on petrol (for the odd time I need it).
Got the new air filter cone fitted away from where it might short the=20
coil, and in a colder spot (in the spare battery tray) using one of them=20
cheap tin foil corrugated "ducting" pipes.
Got the top tailgate bottom seal properly reattached with contact=20
adhesive (removed it, cleaned off all the previous attempts worth of=20
glue, gunk, silicon and filler first) so quieter and less rattly now.
Got the cheap VR3 headunit I fitted to accept the bluetooth connection=20
from my phone. Works great for =A3100 and I can play tunes from my phone=20
memory card through Bluetooth through the speakers.
I don't normally get this kind of luck.
Just need to sort out a fuel gauge for the LPG now. I could hookup the=20
LEDs on the switch, but then it is out of line of site.
I might as well find the resistance of the tank gauge feeds and then=20
raid the scrappies for something old with a similar resistance or buy a=20
cheap gauge and pod mount it. That way I get a proper needle gauge at=20
eye line. It doesn't need to be particulary accurate, just to give me an=20
idea so I switch to petrol as little as possible.
=20
Carl Robson
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    @petemurray: "In news:<email_address>,
Elder <email_address> wittered on forthwith;
<quote>
LPG fuel gauges are nearly always hopeless anyway. I always used the trip 
meter along with keeping an eye on the LEDs. The trip was more accurate most 
of the time.
Well done with the rest though, I should have mine in the next few days. 
Will have to pay a visit to Rik and get the turbo balance pipe welded up.
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9
Currently listening to The White Stripes "
    @carlrobson: "<email_address> says...
<quote>
The LPG LEDs are as accurate in mine as the trip meter. Neither work. 
Neither of the tanks have the flylead from the tanks wired, so I should 
be able to add a gauge easily, something a tad more readable than 
looking at my knee when driving.
You are going to have so much fun with that car.
Carl Robson
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    @mrdoki: ""Elder" <email_address> wrote in message 
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<quote>
At a guess, the most accurate method you're going to get for the LPG is the 
temp gradient on the tank... If you're halfway competent with electronics it 
should be doable to have at the very least a warning light. "
    @carlrobson: "says...
<quote>
It is just a resistance feed, so I just need to see what full is, get a 
gauge with that as the full measure.
Normally they tend to follow several standards, 0-90 Ohm, 80-240 Ohm 
etc.
Just need to get a decent multimeter that can measure below 100 Ohms 
(just in case) and I will be sorted.
Carl Robson
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    @conorturton: "says...
<quote>
It's all starting to come together nicely now isn't it?
Conor
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright 
until you hear them speak........."
    @cagmeister: ""Elder" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
Got the rangie idling nice on LPG.
Got it idling better on petrol (for the odd time I need it).
Got the new air filter cone fitted away from where it might short the
coil, and in a colder spot (in the spare battery tray) using one of them
cheap tin foil corrugated "ducting" pipes.
Got the top tailgate bottom seal properly reattached with contact
adhesive (removed it, cleaned off all the previous attempts worth of
glue, gunk, silicon and filler first) so quieter and less rattly now.
Got the cheap VR3 headunit I fitted to accept the bluetooth connection
from my phone. Works great for �100 and I can play tunes from my phone
memory card through Bluetooth through the speakers.
I don't normally get this kind of luck.
Just need to sort out a fuel gauge for the LPG now. I could hookup the
LEDs on the switch, but then it is out of line of site.
I might as well find the resistance of the tank gauge feeds and then
raid the scrappies for something old with a similar resistance or buy a
cheap gauge and pod mount it. That way I get a proper needle gauge at
eye line. It doesn't need to be particulary accurate, just to give me an
idea so I switch to petrol as little as possible.
-
Nice one, glad to hear it's all sorting itself out despite what a few people 
on here predicted!!
My weekend started off well but went crap this evening.  Spent saturday 
lazing around the park drinking beer in the sun which is always good!  Then 
sorted the 205 out sunday morning - new cambelt, alt belt, water pump, crank 
seal and cover gasket which cured the water/oil leaks.  So the car was 
running great which was nice.  Took it for a run today across country as I 
had to pick up some bargain wheels I got off ebay and it went fine, apart 
from being dog slow!
Back home via Dads garage to start stripping he Nova apart.  Filled the 205 
with bits and went to start it and the glow plug didn't work - not a problem 
as the engine was still warm and they were playing up the other day which 
was a dodgy connection, so went home with the intention of cleaning all the 
connections to get them working.
On the way home there was a really bad knock coming from the front.  At 
first I thought a CV joint was about to explode (they're knocking a bit when 
turning already) but thought I'd try to limp home anyway.  Got worse and 
worse until I could start to feel it through the steering so pulled over 
straightaway.  Everything looked ok underneath - no play anywhere.  Pulled 
the wheel trim off and all the wheel bolts were loose!!  Fuck knows how - 
last time I had the wheel off was a couple of weeks ago when changing the 
tyres and I distinctly remember titghtening every single bolt with my 
breaker bar.  But luckily they were all done up before something disasterous 
had happened!
Finally got home and I've had the glow plug timer box out and have cleaned 
everything up - the dash lights now light up better but still no glow plugs. 
Have tested everything I can think of but I just cant get the bastards to 
work - there's a feed going into the timer box, the relay inside clicks when 
the ignition goes on but no output.  Pissing me off!  So gotta try and get 
hold of a new timer tomorrow, but once again we have no transport (unless by 
some miracle the car will start tmrw morning with no preheating)!!
Fecking French pieces of crap.  I knew taking on a free 205 was gonna cause 
trouble!!"
    @mrdoki: ""Elder" <email_address> wrote in message 
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<quote>
Aye, but if they're as bad as Pete reckons, measuring temp gradient is a 
fairly decent way of working out when it's low - same as a gas bottle used 
to run owt, the bottom half with the liquid gas in gets cold due to yer 
basic thermodynamics / gas laws. When the cold bit's a long way down the 
tank it's pretty safe to assume it's nearly empty. "
    @127001: ""Elder" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
Got a stable idle for it? Every Rangie I have seen on LPG hunts from 800-1k 
when on gas. "
    @carlrobson: "<email_address> says...
<quote>
Oh yes. I still don't know if I'll keep it, but it will be more 
affordable to keep while I decide.
Carl Robson
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    @carlrobson: "says...
<quote>
=20
=20
=20
Ah, but I have two smaller tanks.
But you only need to feed a gauge from one, as they are supposed to feed=20
roughly equally, and at the same time, hence why it is so innacurate.
Even though the tanks are T-d for feed to the engine, and for the=20
filler, you can feel the difference when filling. There is a clunk when=20
one tank fills at about =A310-12, but then the second tank carries on=20
taking gas upto another =A36 (when running part-time gas. On full time,=20
both tanks will empty almost fully but I'll switch over as they do).=20
Normally the clunk/judder is the safety valve saying "no more, enough".=20
Of course with 2 tanks, it will happen twice.
=20
Carl Robson
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    @carlrobson: "says...
<quote>
It will be something or nothing. Usually is, throw some garlic and a 
baquette under the bonnet, make it feel loved.
Don't suppose you have a spare glow plug or two to test do you?
Carl Robson
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    @carlrobson: ""Depresion" <83.161.120.155> says...
<quote>
This is spot on, arround 6-700.
When in drive, it sits at a clean 500, even more controllable than on 
petrol. luckily petrol is just going to be for starting when cold these 
days. I'll maybe stick a couple of quid in every now and again to stop 
it going stale.
Not going to mess with much now, just sort out a gauge as and when, no 
rush. Nothing is broken, so I'm not going to break it.
Carl Robson
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    @cagmeister: ""Elder" <email_address> wrote in message 
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<quote>
Took the two easy ones out - one was 1.7 ohms (knackered) the other 0.9 ohms 
(ok).  I know they're getting ona bit, but they've worked ok for the last 
few weeks.  If I can get a lift to GSF tomorrow I'll get 4 new plugs and the 
relay box and will just hope that cures it. "
    @petemurray: "In news:<email_address>,
<email_address> <email_address> wittered on forthwith;
<quote>
some LPG vehicles will start on gas alone, but most need to be started on 
petrol then they'll flick over automatically at around 1500 rpm. It's a good 
idea to use petrol for the first 5-10 mins from cold just because it helps 
to lubricate valve guides etc. LPG doesn't.
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9
Currently listening to The White Stripes "
    @mmmm: "<quote>
There isn't actually a temp difference under stable conditions, but it 
feels like there is 'cos you have a volatile liquid which 
convects/boils/whatever when you put your hand on the tank at theat 
point.  This extracts heat from your hand and makes it feel cold.   If 
you measured it with a thermometer you should find no difference*.
*there might be a slight difference whilst you are sucking LPG out, 'cos 
what's left boils to fill the gap and extracts heat from the tank whilst 
it does that.  However, the difference will depend on how quickly you 
suck the stuff out, rather than just on the level in the tank, so it's 
not very deterministic."
    @mrdoki: ""Albert T Cone" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
That was what I was thinking of - the difference you actually get and can be 
seen by condensation / ice when the tank's being used. Depends on the rate 
you use it at I suppose - I can get a decent amount of condensation on a gas 
tank that's running my heater, but that's probably using rather more than 
the average car. "
    @carlrobson: "<email_address> says...
<quote>
Tried getting it to fire on gas, and couldn't get it to, even when warm.
No worries switching to petrol for the first 5 minutes though.
Carl Robson
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    @petemurray: "In news:<email_address>,
Elder <email_address> wittered on forthwith;
<quote>
This car?
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S'quite good fun, needs a bloody good service and the balance pipe sorting, 
it's now back on the original alloys, but they're *mint*, the Recaros 
unfortunately weren't possible to get (turns out they belonged to the owner, 
not the car) but these are the original immaculate SE seats - which are also 
near perfect, and there are no picnic tables.
Bit gutted, but the suspension is unreal - it has about the same body roll 
as the Golf...
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9
Currently listening to The White Stripes "
    @carlrobson: "says...
<quote>
bugger. Missed that one.
=20
Carl Robson
Audio stream: <url>
Homepage: <url>
Now Playing at home:Front Line Assembly-A Decade
<url>"
    @carlrobson: "<email_address> says...
<quote>
Nice, but don't WP make weird Dashboards.
Carl Robson
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Homepage: <url>"
    @petemurray: "In news:<email_address>,
Elder <email_address> wittered on forthwith;
<quote>
Was originally covered in walnut, Bentley style, but the veneer cracked to a 
previous keeper had it retrimmed in leather.
I'm going to get it re-veneered.
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9
Currently listening to The White Stripes "
    @fraser: ""Pete M" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:f20gtm$8n5$<email_address>
<quote>
Good idea.  The leather looks awful.  The walunt looks amazing.
Fraser"
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