@redlen: "Why send post-war help with so much opposition to U.S.? 
by Joe Scarborough
The word out of the State Department is that
Colin Powell and his troops are feverishly
working to get a new U.N. resolution to get
the U.N. involved in postwar Iraq. All I can
say is, good luck. Why? Because the U.N. is
filled with countries who simply hate
America. And I got to tell you something
else. Not only do they hate America. They
would love to see nothing more than America
fail in Iraq. 
France, they've got their reasons. They had
lucrative financial deals with Saddam
Hussein and the United States' victory cost
them billions and billions of dollars. And,
of course, then there was Syria, a fellow
Baathist regime who sat in judgment of
America on the United Nations Security
Council. Do you think they want us to
succeed? And what about Libya, why, that
famous arbiter of human rights who sits as a
chairman of the U.N. Human Rights Council?
Oh, but by the way, they just admitted to
blowing up hundreds of civilians on a
commercial airplane. 
And let's ask a bigger question. Why do we
really want the United Nations to get
involved, when they have such a lousy track
record? Did they stop a million deaths in
Rwanda in the '90s? Did they stop two
million deaths in the Sudan in the '90s? Did
they stop the bloodshed in Bosnia? The
answer is no, no and no. 
How did they do this past fall?  I'm telling
you, it was a three-ring circus in the
United Nations.  They have proven themselves
to be obsolete and out of date.  And the only
question is, why should the United States
drag itself down even more by associating
itself with an international body that no
longer represents democratic values and no
longer can succeed on the world stage?  
Former Congressman Joe Scarborough (R-Fla.)
hosts �Scarborough Country,� 
10 p.m. ET, weeknights on MSNBC"
    @nomail: "Hi Pulver,
<quote>
Maybe you look on it like you stated.
The U.N. isn't perfect - and will never be.
The interests of the members are too
different, beside their political convinctions
(and religious)
This non-perfect construct was choosen to avoid
war, or find solutions in the case of conflicts
between countries, or in the case of civil wars.
It was some sort of minimal consens.
Maybe some in the U.S. of A. see it as
their duty, to replace the U.N. - and
solve the conflicts in world their way.
They are on their way to do so. We will see,
how it works out to be. I guess, it will work out
to end up in a mess.
Maybe I am wrong :-)
I don't know. I am mainly here to read, what is thought
in other countries of the world. Maybe to understand
their thinking a bit closer. Maybe I am just bored by
the daily mainstream news :-)
Sometimes I give my comment, but I am not
on a mission to convince anybody about
anything :-)
Best regards
Tobias"
    @nomail: ""Mark K" <email_address> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:nae5b.337749$<email_address>
<quote>
you quote Puler - and my name above.
look at their resolutions
Best regards"
    @redlen: "<quote>
The UN has become the bureaucracy to end all
bureaucracies.  They are responsible to no one,
therefore corruption is rampant.   Also everything is
run by committee so leadership is absent � I scratch
your back, you scratch mine.  
"Committee  a group of men who individually can do
nothing but as a group decide that nothing can be done."
                            Fred Allen (1894 - 1956)
Yes � that is/was the intent.  However any mechanism
that remains static for 60 years without constructive
change and repairs is both obsolete and nonfunctional. 
Picture my 1946 Olds 76 running? on the same rubber
today.  Sort of dangerous would you say? ���Well that
is the UN and with a terrible track record to boot."
    @redlen: "<quote>
That is easy � because MarKKK lies about Israel and
"Israel's ethic cleansing of the occupied territories".
 First because it is the PLO which advocates "ethnic
cleansing" the Jews from the earth and the "occupied
territories" are not "occupied" by Israel, rather by a
whole lot of illegal Egyptian immigrants from the slums
of Cairo."
    @nomail: ""Mark K" <email_address> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:rdf5b.338679$<email_address>
<quote>
ans what you found out?"
    @redlen: "<quote>
Yes and rationalism says that the only road to peace is
the road taken by the Pallie arabs to somewhere else.
�����
"Allah willing, that unjust state... 
	Israel will be erased; 
this unjust state, 
	the United States will be erased; 
this unjust state, 
	Britain will be erased... 
Blessings to whoever waged Jihad for the 
	sake of Allah... 
Blessings to whoever put a belt of explosives 
	on his body or on his son's' and plunged 
	into the midst of the Jews..." 
 Sermon by Sheikh Ibrahim Mahdi a few days 
after Yasser Arafat's cease-fire declaration. 
Broadcast by Palestinian Television, June 8, 2001 
�����
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation 
of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing 
our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab 
unity. In reality today there is no difference between 
Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only 
for political and tactical reasons do we speak today 
about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab 
national interests demand that we posit the existence 
of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism." 
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein 
�����
"If people pose a security threat, as a sovereign 
country we have the right to exclude anyone 
we don't want." 
	- Kuwaiti Ambassador Saud Nasir Al-Sabah, 
27 Jun 91, explaining Kuwait's expulsion of 
400,000 Palestinian Arabs 
�����
The Phases Program/Phased Plan is the basis for 
Arafat/Palestinian negotiations with Israel adopted as 
the resolution of the Twelfth Palestinian National 
Council in Cairo on June 19th, 1974. Arafat has never 
wavered from this plan which is the graduated take- 
over through lies and deceit of all of what is now 
Israel. 
"The Phases Program/Plan calls for the establishment 
of a Palestinian state on any part of the disputed 
territory that becomes available, whether through war 
or through a negotiated process starting with the 
fledgling negotiations with Israel in the aftermath of 
the 1973 Yom Kippur War. In adopting this policy, 
the PLO leadership stressed that accepting any part 
of Palestine was legitimate as long as the entity 
established there would serve as the basis for the 
liberation of the rest of the country-that is, the 
ultimate destruction of Israel...." 
Yossef Bodansky, "The High Cost of Peace", 2002 
�����
As the poet said, 'Only God can make a tree'  
probably because it's so hard to figure out how 
to get the bark on. 
 Woody Allen"
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