@kwicker1b_nospam: "BUFFY
S2: Buffy vs Angeluswith swordsin the season finale
S3: Tie: "Anne" vs demons / Buffy vs Faithon rooftops (well, for a while)
S4: Buffy-Prime vs Adam (nicely maxtrixy)
S5: Scoobies + Buffybot vs Minions (to rescue Spike)
S6: Tie: Buffy vs dancing demons in graveyard / Spike vs Mr. Fire-Fists
S7: Buffy vs Caleb in the vineyard (she was very bob-and-weavey)
ANGEL
S2: Angel vs the Demon Knight (good horsey)
S3: Avengers vs the "Destroyer" in his debut appearance
S4: Avengers vs the Beast in his debut appearance
S5: Tie: "Hero of the people" with double-stakes / Angel vs "Doyle" / 
Illyria vs "Suburban" demon (who seems ... close to home)
Personal faves:
"Anne", Buffy totally alone, cut off from her friends, allies, dimension
Avengers vs Beast (Gunn'd love that) it just looked cool, including Mr. 
NRA
"Hero of the people" (well, duh, it's me, you knew this would be a fave)
 Ken from Chicago
P.S. Sorry, no fights from S1 kinda stood out for me for either series, tho 
they compensated by having more drama, more dialogue). "
    @ntscuser: "BUFFY
S3: Students vs Vamps
S4: Cissy-fight between Harmony and Xander (which Xander lost!)
S6: Buffy vs Spike
ANGEL
S5: "Take your best shot little girl"
(kim)"
    @pavsnerp: "1. I agree: class of 1999 vs. the Mayor's vampire minions at the end of S3.
2. Buffy vs. Faith at the end of the previous ep.
3. Buffy going all Vegimatic on Caleb with that UberSlayer 
Ax/Stake/thingamado.
Angel:
1. Puppet Angel taking on the puppet demons on the kiddie show.
2. OK, I know this is cheating because we never get to see the fight, but 
the last scene of the series has got to getcha right here (this is me, 
pointing in the general vicinity of my heart, y'all).
"Ken from Chicago" <email_address> wrote in message 
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    @mair_fheal: "<quote>
watching caleb split ranks up there with parker getting hitting with a stick
twice
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo"
    @OBS: ""Ken from Chicago" <email_address> wrote in message 
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The Angel/Faith fight in Five by Five didn't stand out?
I've never really worked out a favorite fight list, but a few alternatives 
do come to mind.  The Faith/Buffy fight in S3's Revelations.  Not very long, 
but pretty intense.  There's one leaping punch by Buffy that seems to come 
down like a sledge hammer.  And in S5 there's Buffy taking out the nest of 
hooker vamps that tried to jump her in the alley.  Very fast, but I think 
the most skilled job of slaying Buffy ever displayed.  Actually, I rather 
disliked the saving Spike fight that season.  Buffy's fight against Glory 
with the troll hammer was a lot better than that too.  There's also 
something to be said for Spike's two fights against slayers in Fool For 
Love.  Good season for fights I guess.
S4 has the Xander/Harmony fight, but you can discount that for camp if you 
want.
Hmmm.  I want to think about this some more.  Other fights are starting to 
pop into my head now...
OBS "
    @kwicker1b_nospam: ""One Bit Shy" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Good one. I forgot that one.
I couldn't decide between Spike vs Buffy, Nikki or Xin Rong.
No idea what you're talking about.
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 Ken from Chicago "
    @moreno_at_mochima_dot_com: "Too many and too good to pick favourites ...  (actually, too
many and too good to even *remember* which ones we particularly
liked!  :-))
One strong different of opinion, though  I find that the
Buffy vs. Angelus in Becoming is about the worst, lamest fight
of the whole series...   From that same episode, Kendra vs. the
gang including Drusilla is waaaaaaay better, IMHO.
In Homecoming, the "Spatula" fight deserves a nomination, don't
you think?  :-)
A few others that come to mind:
Both Angelus vs. Faith in AtS season 4 (the one where Angelus
kills the beast, and the one where Faith drugged Angelus with
Orpheus).
Angel vs. Sahjan  (IIRC, that's the one where Justine captured
Sahjan)
Xander and Harmony's hair pulling contest.
The gang vs. the Chumash guys.
Buffy vs. Faith in This Years Girl.
Perhaps the best of all:
Puppet-Angel vs. Spike
No wait, the best of all would have to be:
Buffy vs. the First Slayer in Restless!!
And how about a special nomination to:
Willow vs. the Beast Master?   (you didn't say the fight has
to be physical, eh?)
Carlos"
    @kwicker1b_nospam: "<email_address> wrote in message news:ee8q99$9j1$<email_address>
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Saluting backwards? invading?
 Ken from Chicago "
    @kwicker1b_nospam: ""(Harmony) Watcher" <email_address> wrote in message 
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You're thinking about the fight post-scythe, I'm referring to pre-scythe.
 Ken from Chicago "
    @mair_fheal: "<quote>
one difference is that on buffy there is almost no firearms
but on angel wesley ended up with two pistols and a shotgun
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo"
    @mair_fheal: "<quote>
buffy commenting on kung fu movies to riley
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo"
    @stephen: "Instead of answering in words, I'll answer with a song and a dance!
<url>
(Fourth one down, entitled 'Dancing')
Stephen
- Why yes, I do seem to be pimping my own work rather a lot this week.
Why do you ask?"
    @davideml: ""Ken from Chicago" <email_address> wrote in message 
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    S3: Revelations  Buffy vs Faith while Gwendolyn Post puts on the Glove 
of Mynhegon"
    @moreno_at_mochima_dot_com: "<quote>
I agree with the sentiment here  from the technical and production
quality standpoint, AtS fight scenes were jaw-dropping (unbelievably
jaw-dropping, some of them), whereas BtVS fights simply did the job.
But:
1) The big exception, IMHO, is the fight against the First Slayer
    in Buffy's dream.  I don't know what it is  the best I can
    come up with to describe it is: "Simple. Perfect."  The sound /
    video synchronization tricks make it, IMHO, a gem.
2) From the artistic point of view, some of the BtVS fight scenes
    have great value from the point of view of the impact they have
    when placed in context;  that is, even if the technical details
    of the martial arts coreography is not impeccable or even good,
    one is simply not the same person as we were before seeing that
    fight.
    One example of this point is Kendra vs. the vamps, in particular
    vs. Drusilla, in Becoming.  It's not about Drusilla doing a triple
    gravityless flippy-thing with sound effects equally jaw-dropping;
    it's about *the outcome* of that fight  it's about Drusilla's
    eyes, it's about Drusilla's pleasure when cutting Kendra's throat;
    about her incredible smile afterwards when talking the rest of
    her gang, like killing Kendra was a triviality.
    Another example of this is Giles vs. Angelus (in Passion).
3) Perhaps a little corollary of point 2;  many of the BtVS fights
    have a humor component that perhaps we take for granted, as we
    have grown accustomed to expect that from Joss Whedon.  There's
    also an example of this in Becoming  running concurrently with
    the Kendra/Drusilla sequence;  "All right, we'll fight!"  (there
    is additional humor, much more subtle than that, of course).
    Giles vs. Angelus in Passion also works a little as an example
    of this point  (Spike telling Drusilla that she can't jump in
    the fight unless they tag her first  or something along those
    lines;  don't remember the exact phrase)
    There's also Vamp-Willow kicking the Mayor's minions' asses.
Of course, the fights in AtS *also* have those non-technical
components (dramatic impact, humor component, etc etc  one example
that pops to mind:  Wesley impersonating Angel in Guise will be
Guise);  so, perhaps all in all, AtS fight scenes would win anyway.
Carlos"
    @dak_mar: "Everyone seem to forget the best fight of all:
Faith versus a Vulcan as Andrew tells the Chosen Ones she killed a Vulcan 
(rather than a volcanologist).  I busted a gut laughing at that one !
Deborah
Remove "&mizar" to respond "
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