@nospamplease: "Well, there's good news and bad news.  First, good news.  BP is fine, no GD,
baby's heartbeat is strong and at 140, still head down.  Minute amount of
ankle swelling that I haven't even noticed so it can't be bad!
Bad news.  I am measuring at 5 weeks bigger than my dates.  I will be 31
weeks on Thursday and was melissa10@example.com weeks.  I have also gained
3.5lbs in 2 weeks.  Holy crap.  So, I figured out, if the average baby is
7lbs at birth, and my rate of growth continues, when I get to 35 weeks, I
will be measuring at 40 weeks and be carrying a 7lb baby.  Add 1lb a week
average growth (right?), which gives me a 12lb baby if I deliver at 40
weeks.  Arghhhhhh...and here I am hoping for a VBAC.  Lord give me strength
(or SOMETHING!!).
My OB seems to think I have about a 20-25% chance of a vaginal birth.  Not
great odds, but not awful either.  I asked her why and she said that
considering what happened last time, she anticipates a repeat performance
(ie pelvic disproportion), especially if I do have a large baby (looking
likely at this point).  We talked about the whole squatting thing and being
able to move around, and she was completely OK with letting me try, and
reluctantly gave me those odds, but now I am having my doubts.
She asked if I wanted an u/s at 36 weeks to see if we could get a ball park
on the weight, but I don't think that's really helpful considering at late
term those u/s's can be a pound or more off, so what help would that be to
me, other than forcing me to decide on a repeat c-section?
Still, I feel ENORMOUS all of a sudden, and extremely exhausted.  The
slightest thing makes me breathless, and while I don't particularly want to
be pregnant for much longer, I am also not ready for this baby to be born
yet (I still don't have everything I need for him!!).  I hope we can keep
him cooking for at least another 8 weeks, but I am not hopeful at this
point.
Anyway, that's the latest.  My next appointment is 3 weeks away (OB is on
vacation), so here's hoping for an uneventful and slow growing 3 weeks!
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    @nospamplease: "Oh, whew, well I am glad I overestimated on the weight thing!
My DD was 8lb 14oz at birth (delivered near term) and I consistently
measured at 2 weeks ahead througout, apart from the last couple of weeks
when I was measuring 4 weeks ahead.  This time, I am measuring 5 weeks ahead
already when at this point in the pg w/ my DD I was only measuring 1.5 weeks
ahead.
In answer to your questions, yes, it's the same OB, and she was there at my
birth and throughout the labor and pushing for DD.  She maintains I was an
excellent pusher, and my pelvis was just not wide enough to get her out.  I
still believe I could've done it had I been unmedicated (ie not numb from
the waist down) and could have followed my instinct and squatted to get her
out as my pelvis would have been wider.
She thinks that I did everything humanly possible at the time (we could see
her head and I could see with the aid of a mirror that her hair would show
and then "bounce" back in after every push...it was very frustrating).  She
also said at the time of the c-section, that her shoulders looked to be
wedged in my pelvis, so I just don't know what would have happened.  I am
inclined to not have confidence in my OB either but at the same time I do
really like her and respect her, and feel that she has done right by me,
despite the outcome.  I am so torn...
Anyway thanks for your input and good luck with the rest of your pg and trip
back to England.  Will be looking out for my belly buddy!!
CY
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    @jamielee6: "Hugs CY.  As Anne already pointed out, it's closer to 1/2 pound a week at 
the end, not a pound.  BUT, the weight of the baby is not directly 
proportional to the fundal measurement.  You can't say the average baby 
weighs 7lbs, there for, when your belly measures 40 weeks your baby will 
weigh 7lbs.  It doesn't work that way.  And the 3.5lbs weigh gain is likely 
all your weight, not the babies weight.  You may create a LOT of extra 
amniotic fluid, and that *could* be the reason that you are measuring big. 
Or the baby could enjoy a strange transverse lie, which causes the extra 
large fundal measurement.  I've heard plenty of stories of huge weight gains 
in the mother and small babies, and huge fundal measurements and small 
babies.
Plus, you said that you also measured about two weeks ahead in your first 
pregnancy, so really, this is sort of par for the course for you.  This baby 
is only measuring two weeks ahead of your last, which really isn't so big. 
So, based on your first child being 8lbs 14oz at birth, and you pretty 
consistently measuring 2 weeks ahead during that pregnancy, my completely 
unscientific guess is that this bub is only a wee bit larger than your 
first, and will weigh 9lbs9oz.  No problem.  You can do it!
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    @annekh23: "<quote>
I think it's a case of you just never know, I'm at the opposite end of the 
scale, at this stage last time I was measuring 1 weeks behind, now, I'm 
measuring an unbelieveable 4 weeks behind, but I very much doubt that I'm 
going to produce a 4lber at term, though I wouldn't be surprised by 5lb 
something (DS was 5lb13oz).
this is very true! did you roll onto your side? was it induced or natural? 
how do you plan to avoid an epidural this time? (I make the presumption that 
you want to avoid it!)
you're probably right, at the time there was nothing you could have done 
differently, but I don't buy the shoulder thing, true they may well have 
been wedged in that position, but changing positions could  very easily have 
changed that, which I'm sure you know!
thanks :-)
Anne "
    @eek: "<quote>
	Honestly, I wouldn't worry like that.  Late in pregnancy
this measurement can be *substantially* affected by a whole lot
of things other than the baby's size.  And the math doesn't
necessarily work as you describe either.
	Oh, please don't go there.  Your odds of a vaginal birth
just dropped significantly because you and your doctor both now
believe there's a bit baby in there, and you will interpret everything
that happens in that light rather than looking for more benign
interpretations.  Your confidence has been lowered.  And there are
a thousand and one reasons that a perfectly normal sized baby could
cause large measurements!  The really sad thing is that you just
can't unring this bell, even though there really isn't any evidence
that should cause this sort of worry :-(
	It wouldn't likely be helpful.  There's a possibility that
it would show a normal, or even small, baby, but you also wouldn't
know if *that* was due to error.
	This is *so* common in late pregnancy.  I had it the worst
with #3, and she was a perfectly sensible 8bls 2oz.
Best wishes,
Ericka"
    @annekh23: "<quote>
many midwives are fairly good at estimating the size of the baby, only one 
gave me a firm estimate and she was a mere 5oz off.
Anne "
    @joybelle15: "news:<email_address>
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hehe... I just had to chuckle a little.  My midwife, my last pregnancy said
as she palpated my uterus, "Joy, I don't think we have to worry about this
being a big baby."  He was "only" 10 lbs 3 ozs. :)  For me, that isn't a
small baby.
Joy
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    @SpamFreedawg: ""Leslie" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Oh, just reading that makes me cross my legs!
You had a 13lb 5 oz baby.  Is there a birth story anywhere I can read?  Did 
you know ahead of time? "
    @ehrebeniuk: "<quote>
<snip> 
Of course you are  you just put on some weight very quickly.  Your body 
takes a while to adjust.
Your assumptions are out, btw.  We don't put on weight linearly, nor does the 
baby.
I'm not measuring ahead for dates, but here are my weights, over my last few 
appointments:
23wks:  70.90 kg
26wks:  73.20 kg 3 weeks later  so I put on *5* pounds in 3 weeks
28wks:  73.35
30wks:  73.40
32wks:  75.15
34wks:  73.80
Nobody has shown the slightest concern about my gains or losses.  I think it 
is irresponsible of your OB to discuss your weight gain in this way, since 
your measuring big for dates isn't a symptom of some serious condition like 
polyhydramnios.
Why do you have to ask permission?  That is a serious question.  What are they 
going to do if you walk around  put you in time-out?  And why weren't you 
being *encouraged* to walk around, try different positions etc last time?
The hospital where I will be having Bub 2 is rather primitive in terms of 
labour facilities:  no toilets or showers in the delivery rooms, let alone 
baths (it was built in 1978 and has not been renovated since).  But it is 
quite obvious that women are *expected* to walk (in the corridors if they 
like), and that a variety of delivery positions can be used.  The beds even 
come with a bar to swing on, like those mediaeval birth ropes!  Looking 
forward to trying that out.
My hospital just hasn't changed its decor since 1978, but your hospital's 
*attitudes* appear to be firmly stuck there...
Chookie  Sydney, Australia 
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"In Melbourne there is plenty of vigour and eagerness, but there is 
nothing worth being eager or vigorous about."
Francis Adams, The Australians, 1893."
    @mbwagneSPAM: "<quote>
I'm sure Leslie will pop in, but not only was he 13lb 5 oz, he was
her first vaginal birth after *3* c-sections. She's an inspiration
to all VBACer's! :)
Oh, and ask her about his appearance on animal planet!
Mary W."
    @nospamplease: "news:<email_address>
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She maintains I was an excellent pusher, and my pelvis was just not wide
enough to get her out.
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from
that
I didn't roll onto my side, and did have a natural birth (well, uninduced),
though it was augmented with pitocin once I got melissa10@example.com.  I am not sure
that I know how to avoid an epidural other than refusing one!  Do you have
any suggestions?  I am planning on hiring a doula, but don't want to pay for
that if I do end up with a scheduled c-section...
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    @nospamplease: "This group will help me do that I hope!
If you stay mobile, I am betting you'll do fineas long as you keep
your confidence up!
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    @nospamplease: "<quote>
I feel much better after reading these posts...thanks!!
Well, I did push her for the odds and the bell was already ringing anyway!
That's reassuring!
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    @nospamplease: "Thanks, that was very encouraging information!
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    @me: ""CY" <email_address> wrote in news:425eb27a$<email_address>:
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So true on the can't measure statement. I was induced because the doctor 
had the baby at 6 lbs and not gaining enough weight between last 
ultrasound. She wanted to get her out now. She was born the next 
morning. 7lbs 6oz.. perfectly healthy.  Not accurate by any means.
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Very good point!
the
I'm glad - I was just all panicked after the OB visit but I feel better now!
few
it
like
She didn't bring up my weight gain at all, it was all me, over reacting.
She actually gave me the odds before we discussed my measurements, and then
I asked her to give me a number (stupid, in retrospect).
they
you
I had an early epidural last time and I couldn't move.  I think that's what
all this boils down to...
even
I think overall the hospital is a good one.  AFAIK they have a low c-section
rate, but my (requested) epidural was what screwed things up for me last
time.  I just don't know what to do to avoid the same scenario this time...
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