@Rob_Nickel: "OK, here is what I�m doing. I am helping a friend put together a magazine. I am using Photoshop, Illustrator and In Design CS2. I understand Photoshop very well. I do not know much about the other programs. Here is what I�d Like to know:
I need to design some standard size ads. Do I use Illustrator or In Design for that?
Is there a standard size for overbleed in full page ads? My pages cut size is 8.5x11
How do I add Registration marks on the ads like I�ve seen in layouts before? Is there an industry standard for this?
How do I convert these to pdf�s and are pdf�s what I want to paste into the final layout.
Other than CMYK and 300 PPI is there anything else I should do to images before importing them into my layout?
I will need to layout �magazine style� does that just mean choosing a number of pages in the saddle stitch mode?
How do I get the pages to automatically number themselves?
How do I get text to flow from one box (say a column on page 3) to another box (Say a whole page on page 23) and is there a way to make it automatically say �continued on page 23�?
How do I put reg marks on the final layout? Do I make the pages on a 12x18 layout for an 11x17 final product that will be folded in half with some full bleed pages?
Do I handle color separation or will that be done by most printers?
I know this is a lot of info to request and I REALLY appreciate your help.
Rob
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    @James_Talmage: "      Is there a standard size for overbleed in full page ads? My pages cut
      size is 8.5x11
.25" bleed area should be plenty. Depends upon how much jogging around the paper does during the trim operation. You can set a bleed to display in InDesign. Extending artwork elements which bleed to the center of the bleed area provides an eighth-inch bleed; which is fine for most magazines.
      How do I add Registration marks on the ads like I�ve seen in layouts before?
      Is there an industry standard for this?
Registration, trim, and bleed marks are added in the Print dialog when printing. See InD documentation. Registration marks should not be needed in ads. The ads are going to be placed on pages. The pages (or press sheets) are what need registration marks.
      How do I convert these to pdf�s and are pdf�s what I want to paste into
      the final layout.
If you are building the ads in other programs (like Illustrator) Save them as PDFs, using Illustrator's default settings and Place (don't paste) the ads in the InD file.
      Other than CMYK and 300 PPI is there anything else I should do to images
      before importing them into my layout?
300ppi is just a rule-of-thumb. Use at least 1.5 x the halftone screen ruling at which the publication will be printed. (i.e.; assuming it will be printed at 150 lines per inch, 225ppi is sufficient resolution for raster images.)
      I will need to layout �magazine style� does that just mean choosing a
      number of pages in the saddle stitch mode?
Use facing pages while doing your assembly in InD. But understand, those pages will have to be correctly "imposed" (arranged on a press-sheet) before printing. The printing firm usually handles the imposition chore, using dedicated imposition software.
      How do I get the pages to automatically number themselves?
Type auto-number characters on InD Master Pages. See InD documentation.
      How do I get text to flow from one box (say a column on page 3) to another
      box (Say a whole page on page 23) and is there a way to make it automatically
      say �continued on page 23�?
Again, this is ordinary base functionality in InD. Look up "threading" in InD's documentation.
      How do I put reg marks on the final layout?
In InD's Print Dialog.
      Do I make the pages on a 12x18 layout for an 11x17 final product that
      will be folded in half with some full bleed pages?
Depends on how it will be printed. Most web-offset presses do not use simple 4-page printer spreads; they use multiple spreads on a press sheet. The press sheet is commonly folded several times before trimming. Again, this is page imposition, usually performed at the printing house. Visit your printer for a friendly walk-through.
      Do I handle color separation or will that be done by most printers?
It is your responsibility to build your document so that it will separate correctly. You do not actually perform the final separation yourself. Your pages are printed to a high-resolution imagesetter (or direct-to-plate press) at the printing house. It's a good idea (especially while learning) to print separations to your own PostScript laser printer. Study them carefully. You can also preview separations in Acrobat Pro, but it is still a good idea to make test prints.
JET"
    @Lee_Brubaker: "Last year, when I went to Baghdad to work, I bought CS2 knowing I was going to use a Windows machine. Now that I'm back I have a MAC.. can I use that serial # for my beta of CS3?
AND, while we're 'talking' CAN I use the '2nd machine install' that I never used on my MAC and, if so, how do I go about doing that since the CS2 I purchased is for Windows?
Thanks!!
Lee Brubaker
(check out the bottom URL for Baghdad shots)
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    @JerronSmith: "      >OK, here is what I�m doing. I am helping a friend put together a magazine.
      I am using Photoshop, Illustrator and In Design CS2. I understand Photoshop
      very well. I do not know much about the other programs. Here is what I�d
      Like to know:<< I suggest picking up a book on Illustrator and Indesign.
      The classrom in a book series are very helpful.
      >I need to design some standard size ads. Do I use Illustrator or In Design
      for that?<< The ads should be done in indesign. If they require illustrations
      do those in illustrator and then place (File/Place) the files into indesign.
      Place is the Adobe term for import and you see it in Illustrator and InDesign
      in the File pull down menu. The reason I suggest doing only the illustrations
      for the ads in Illustrator is that it will be easier to edit/correct the
      type in InDesign than illustrator.
      >Is there a standard size for overbleed in full page ads? My pages cut
      size is 8.5x11<< Yes, it is an eigth or an inch .125". In the new document
      cration window in Indesign click the "more options" button and you will
      find fields for Bleed and Slug. You can ignore clug but type ".125" into
      the first bleed field and click the chain link icon to the far right to
      make all values the same.
      >How do I add Registration marks on the ads like I�ve seen in layouts
      before? Is there an industry standard for this?<< That is done in the
      print/pdf export settings and are usually as a whole included in the area
      called "Printer's Marks". They are only used by the printer however and
      are not necessary or even visible usually on art work you are going to
      place into a page layout application.
      >How do I convert these to pdf�s and are pdf�s what I want to paste into
      the final layout.<< If using illustrator/InDesign you can use the native
      Illustrator .AI format. Use the "File/Place" command. When you have choosen
      your file, your cursor will get a little paint brush next to it. Click
      on or off your page to place your image into your InDesign document.
      >I will need to layout �magazine style� does that just mean choosing a
      number of pages in the saddle stitch mode? << Make sure you have the "facing
      pages" check box turned on in the New Document creation window (File/New/Document).
      It is on by default so just don't turn it off really. James is correct
      that the printer can impose the pages using page imposition software but
      they charge you for that so you can do it yourself. If using version cs2
      you can use the InBookletSE (File/InbookletSE) feature to generate a document
      set up in printers spreads. Just click the button and choose your imposition
      style from the dialog box, then generate a new document (an option in
      the window) and export that new document as a PDF (File/PDF Export) for
      review or to send to your printer.
      >How do I get the pages to automatically number themselves?<< On your
      master page (look for it in the pages panel in the upper left corner of
      the InDesign interface it will be called A-Master create a small text
      box where you would like the page number to appear, right click inside
      the text box and chose "insert special character/auto page number" it
      will give you an A icon on the master page, but a real number on your
      local (numbered) pages). Style the A icon however you like (this will
      be the styling on your local pages. You have to do this on both pages
      (sides) of the master.
      >How do I get text to flow from one box (say a column on page 3) to another
      box (Say a whole page on page 23) and is there a way to make it automatically
      say �continued on page 23�?<< Selec the text box with your selection tool
      (black arrow), towards the bottom right of the box you will see a small
      hollow white box just above the corner point of the text frame. This is
      your out port, click on it and your selection tool will get a little icon
      that look like line of text next to it (this is called a loaded cursor),
      navigate to the page you want to continue the text on (without clicking
      on your page or art board), when you are above another text box your loaded
      cursor will switch to a chain link icon (this means you will link/thread
      the boxes together), click on the box you want to link to the previous
      one. There is no way I know to auto generate a continued on page number
      message. If you figure out a way let me know.
      >How do I put reg marks on the final layout? Do I make the pages on a
      12x18 layout for an 11x17 final product that will be folded in half with
      some full bleed pages?<< If you document is for a ledger sized (11x17)
      document you choose a letter sized document preset from the New Document
      creation window. When you have an 8.5x11 (letter) spread it is 11x17.
      The reg marks, callibration bars, crop marks, etc. are all called "Printer's
      Marks" and are present in the print and export pdf windows. Usually they
      are a check box to turn on in one of the sub-categories of the dialog
      box.
      >Do I handle color separation or will that be done by most printers?<<
      Aside from preparing your color properly (all process color for a 4-color
      job) creating color seps aren't your responsibility
Jerron I. Smith
"Just a guy with too much time on my hands tonight""
    @LenHewitt: "Lee,
You should have started a new topic for your post - your question has 
nothing to do with subject of this thread.
You can get a cross-platform upgrade at much reduced cost from Adobe. 
You need to call Adobe Customer Support."
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