@newsreply: "So . . I was listening to classical music on KKHI 1510 on my way to work 
at about 3:00 p.m. Then, when I came out around 7:30 p.m. I was listning 
to "Oldies 1510." (And no, it wasn't skywave from out of the area.)
Appears to be fully automated, which is to be expected, I guess.
I didn't manage to hear any IDs to know if the call letters have also 
changed.
JT"
    @mward: "On 30 Oct 2004 13:03:32 -0700, <email_address> (David Kaye)
wrote:
<quote>
Call up Saul down in L.A., he might give you a chance!  Goodness knows
he's tried every other format under the sun on 1510 and the other
small AMs he owns in Los Angeles. ;)"
    @newsreply: "<quote>
Saturday mid-day . . it's *the* 1510, all right.  Sounds like they're 
concentrating on the 50s and 60s, as opposed to KFRC's mid-60s and 70s 
playlist.
Where I live (Union City) even the daytime signal is lousy. I might give 
them a shot as opposed to KFRC, but that can only happen when I'm 
halfway to Oakland, or better.
Honestly, an automated Oldies format would go down pretty well with me. 
KFRC has too much chatter and WAY too many commercials.
Maybe your ideal format would work too. (Is that klezmer music I hear?? 
Oy!) It would be interesting to hear *something* new and different, 
especially if it's also entertaining. Something like KKCY did when they 
took over from KQAK- they were *very* eclectic, yet very entertaining. I 
always wished they had succeeded.
JT"
    @markrobt: "John T <email_address> had written:
| 
| Where I live (Union City) even the daytime signal is lousy. I might give 
| them a shot as opposed to KFRC, but that can only happen when I'm 
| halfway to Oakland, or better.
The nighttime signal of the Voice of Piedmont is nothing to write
home about, even just a mile from the COL.
| Honestly, an automated Oldies format would go down pretty well with me. 
Isn't that kind of what KFRC has now? It's certainly rather
robotic.
Surprising to me, KFRC's reprise of "The History of Rock and Roll" over
the Labor Day weekend was *extremely* enjoyable. The music had far
more life in it than would be evident from KFRC's usual approach.
Mark Roberts |"Bush seems incapable of even acknowledging mistakes, much less
Oakland, Cal.| learning from them. And there have been many mistakes...."
NO HTML MAIL |   from the Kansas City Star's endorsement of John Kerry"
    @markrobt: "George Grapman <email_address> had written:
|     Is 1510 the Disney property that that had an all childrens format?
That's 1310 (KMKY). Still doing that, too.
Mark Roberts |"Bush seems incapable of even acknowledging mistakes, much less
Oakland, Cal.| learning from them. And there have been many mistakes...."
NO HTML MAIL |   from the Kansas City Star's endorsement of John Kerry"
    @markrobt: "I'm snipping the 4,879th iteration of the classical-music whine
whine whine because Patty's response was **far** more interesting 
than the post that she responded to.
Patty Winter <email_address> had written:
| I commented on this a few weeks ago when I compared public radio
| stations in Oregon to those in the Bay Area. It is embarrassing,
| all right.
I don't agree, for a reason that will become clear after the next
quote.
| Obviously the people running the stations believe (probably with
| good reason) that they can get bigger audiences and/or serve their
| intended audience better with their current formats, but it just
| seems odd to me that no one considers a news/classical format
| such as JPR's viable here. (Or, for that matter, a news/jazz format
| such as JPR also has.)
Let's see. There's a fulltime jazz format on KCSM-FM. There's a
fulltime news-and-information format on KQED-FM. There are
significant chunks of news and information programming on KALW and
KPFA. If you open up your scope to commercial stations, there's a 
respectable all-news operation at KCBS, and a well regarded news and
talk mryan@example.net. But let's keep the scope confined to the
noncomms.
So the first counterargument is that the demand for the type of
programming *is* met, just in different combinations than those of
JPR.
The second counterargument is that JPR is configured in this way
precisely because there *was* unmet demand in southern Oregon and
far northern California, and the combinations described were the
best way to meet that demand with the combination of FM and AM
stations available (with the AMs being available due to a lack of
alternatives that would keep them on the air, no doubt).
In the Bay Area, the needs have been met in a long-established way,
with the stations doing so having largely been able to evolve and
adapt. (KPFA may be the exception here, but *those* problems are out
of this scope.)
The third counterargument is that the Bay Area has a wealth of
informational and spoken-word programming available on the dial.
It's one of the few markets in the United States where such a rich
mix of programming that's professionally produced and intended for a
real audience can be heard with such ease. 
Regardless of their limitations and defects, you just don't find 
the combination of KQED, KALW, and KPFA in most other places. 
(Los Angeles seems to be the other place where you can find a richer
mix of programming than in most other places.)
That is not to say they are perfect, and that is not my argument.
It is to say that they *do* provide a service and it is likely they
would not be doing so if there weren't a demand for it.
Actually, except for classical (provided here by a commercial
station), all the services JPR provides *are* available here, and
usually in a way not dependent upon what time of day you're
listening, though there certainly are "destination" programs (such
as "As It Happens" on KALW).
If these stations went to hybridized formats, some of that programming 
would inevitably be lost. Moreover, The hybrid formats that
you've described would seem more suited for parts of the country
(i.e. most of the US) where it's much harder to find or make room
for those types of programs.
Yes, I'm assuming a zero-sum game because, quite frankly, the FM
dial is full up. And, in the Bay Area, the weaker AMs are either
being plugged into a dish, shopped out to time-brokers, or
simulcasted with their FM stations.
So the stations we have are what we've got. Thus to add something
means that something else has to be subtracted. I don't see a big
groundswell for that to happen.
And I don't find it embarassing. If anything, I think we have an
embarassment of riches compared, say, to Kansas City or even
Chicago.
Mark Roberts |"Bush seems incapable of even acknowledging mistakes, much less
Oakland, Cal.| learning from them. And there have been many mistakes...."
NO HTML MAIL |   from the Kansas City Star's endorsement of John Kerry"
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