@rkippenberger: "Heard on the radio they're only bringing 22 "because that's all they
could find...", suffering injury problems, a loss to Wales, inevitable
jet-lag having just turned up in-country.
The ABs are fielding a very strong side, without adding caps up seems
clear that experience in saturdays side is up on the previous line up.
I would expect a better scrummaging effort, Woodcock is a specialist
LH, Hore trades scrummaging ability for speed about the park, and
Somerville is a class rachaelballard@example.com. Mailing is proven in the air and in
the scrum, THEN McCaw, Monkeyman and Tuiali'i makeup a formidable
loose trio with SIZE and SPEED. BUT the backs, an ALL STAR CAST here,
Kelleher would have to think he's got an opportunity following
Marshalls game last week, Mehrtens is on fire, Spencer SHOULD BE
WORRIED, Tuitupou, well, could hardly knock Carter out BUT will most
likely take that out with some Bunce-like hit ups that should put the
fear of god into the Argies... Rocko, Umaga, Mills... no words needed
there... Evans, has yet to show us what he can do with his pace.
(In the everlasting words of our esteemed colleague 'Lo');
"MARK MY WORDS," the ABs will put 50+ on this Puma side..."
    @lo: "<quote>
Fucking hell... talking about stealing my thunder...
Is the Tipster's Cap up for this one?
Lo.
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    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
Its exactly the right move by Henry to play the 2nd string side.  Had 
the firsts played again, justified by the need to "form combinations" or 
some such, they would have put in an ordinary, stuttering, 
coming-down-after-the-high performance.  This way, everyone playing will 
be as keen as mustard to impress and the firsts will be looking over 
their shoulder.
I hate it when the All Blacks have a good coach. Bloody hate it.
Mike"
    @rkippenberger: "On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:31:57 +1000, Mike Thompson <none.by.e-mail>
wrote:
<quote>
Not to worry, the ARU will no doubt buy in some more broken down
league hacks so that Australia can be competitive.."
    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
I assume we are talking about Joey Johns?
As you would well know, you twisting hound, the ARU are AGAINST forking 
out $600K p.a. for Joey Johns.  Its the gun-ho lunatics in NSWRU that 
want to do it.
I just don't get it though. The bloody NSWRU really is a basket case.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Johns in union. It'll be fascinating 
to watch but, despite his talent, he'll be useless for two years while 
he learns the trade.  The Waraths seem to be talking like he'll win them 
a super12 title immediately.  Argggh.
Then of course we come to the issue of Johns' age.  Even if injury isn't 
an issue, and it probably will be, they'll spend two years training him 
up, get one decent year from him, then he'll retire.  And for that the 
Waratahs are prepared to fork out $600K p.a.?  I bloody despair, I 
really do.
Still, provided the "Friends of the Waratahs" provide the funds, as 
seems to be the case, I guess it will be very interesting to watch and 
can't do too much damage.  When fit, Joey Johns is an immensely talented 
footballer.  The Waratahs WILL win in the super14 in '07.  You read it 
here first.
Cheers,
Mike."
    @rkippenberger: "On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:29:54 +1000, Mike Thompson <none.by.e-mail>
wrote:
<quote>
Buying him now are they? Well why not; he's old, banged-up, in need of
a retirement fund. Will be good for a laugh.
Pity they don't have a rugby competition in NSW that might benefit
from a $600k investment, but then 'quick fix' seems to be the vogue.."
    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
Don't act as if you don't know Kippers. You read more Australian press 
than most Australians. You're obsessed with us.
We'd just beat you more often if that happened.  Consider it a blessing.
Mike"
    @nospam: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
Just curious, what is it that sticks out the top of the hat, feather? I copied
it to a file and pushed a fixed width font over it, still can't figure it out."
    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
Yes, well, I only claimed that they "WILL win". No mention of what 
though. You can understand my caution, I'm sure.
Mike"
    @rkippenberger: "On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:47:40 +1000, Mike Thompson <none.by.e-mail>
wrote:
<quote>
Actually I though they might have wanted to buy someone good."
    @lo: "<quote>
Didn't you hear? I was so fucked off with Marshall robbing me of the cap
through bullshit passing, I thought I'd claim it.
Plus i didn't get to wear it last week.
Lo.
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    @rkippenberger: "On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 04:57:33 GMT, <email_address> (rick boyd)
wrote:
<quote>
They're using the Wellington RU business model, success is measured by
gate takings, not rugby results."
    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
There's a longer list who came back just fine: Horan, Larkham, to name a 
couple of recent Australian cases.  Injury-wise they don't come worse 
than Horan's.  The days of the career ending knee injury seem to be 
behind us, you old dinasour, you.
So his knee injury is not the central issue, its just a symptom. His 
year on year (overall) injury toll (he has not completed the last three 
seasons) and related age are the concern.
 > and here is the NSWRU preparing to fork out serious moolah
The NSWRU has neither money nor sense. How else can you explain their 
bankruptcy?
Mike"
    @lo: "<quote>
Settle down... your precious Justin "3 Forward Passes" Marshall cost us 14
points.
Even Scebes admitted as much.
Lo."
    @rkippenberger: "<quote>
Oh come on Lo, the ABs were no where near putting 50 points on the
pommies, certainly not if they'd had a full team on the park.
Best you follow my stout moral code, fess up that you plain got it
wrong. Wrong, wrong, wroooonnnnggggg....... wrongidy wrongidy wrong!!"
    @lo: "<quote>
36 points on the board + the 14 Marshall threw away = 50.
Where have you admitted that you've been wrong??
Specifically on these issues: Thorne as AB Capt, Umaga not to be AB Capt,
Mehrts to start at 10, McIntyre to be given a trial, Ralph to make it, etc
etc etc.
Your results speak for themselves. Mine were let down by a lob-passing
poofter of a halfback.
Honestly - what INTERNATIONAL RUGBY PLAYING HALFBACK passes THREE (yes,
that's correct... it's NOT a typo) ... yes THREEEEEEE .... forward passes in
ONE game....?
Come on, Kips... fire up the great Cantab, buck passing, excuse making
machine up for us all.
Lo."
    @rkippenberger: "<quote>
But you KNEW that Marshal was half back when you made that your
ridiculous call? So this doesn't count does it. 
You mean the best half back the All Black have ever had? The most
capped ever? the halfback preferred by EVERY selector since 1996? That
one? 
The most capped All Black halfback in history. The incumbent. The best
we've got according to Hart, Smith, Mitchell, Henry et al..
To blame him is the worst COP OUT yet !!
YOU made a prediction, "mark my words" you said, NOW with logic worse
than anything from one with a tin brain you're trying to PASS THE
BUCK, with a ridiculous line that it's the fault of our greatest
halfback EVER! 
Keep it up Lo, you're the 'Carlos' of RSRU - all promise, no delivery."
    @lo: "<quote>
YES! The very one that threw THREEEEE FORWARD PASSES in one game to outside
backs with no markers in sight.
So you're willing to admit you're wrong on all the other points i raised?
Lo.
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    @lo: "<quote>
And while rachaelballard@example.com... No delivery? no DELIVERY???
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How's THAT for delivery?
One more than you've EVER had. EVER.
Lo.
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    @Mr_Scebe: "news:YC8Cc.2987$<email_address>
<quote>
Settle down, softcock, i said no such thing. I reckoned he cost us 9 rachaelballard@example.com.
Mr Scebe
Losers always whine about their 'best'.
Winners go home and fuck the prom queen".
~Sean Connery in "The Rock""
    @luchettii: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
moolah
Yep.  But it's not as if Johns would exclude the next great Wallaby 10
next season, and it would be interesting.  If it were off-budget for the
ARU and NSWRU who'd say 'no thanks'?"
    @rkippenberger: "<quote>
So? my neighbor won the golden kiwi, that you like him couldn't back
up the next week just PROVES that anyone can get lucky once..
Dry your eyes princess.. It's just one bad call on your part.. A
simple 'I got carried away' would have easily sufficed, but trying  to
blame one of our great All Blacks for your bad judgement was just poor
form..."
    @lo: "<quote>
Has anyone ever won it twice in a row?
A simple "I got carried away?"
Is that what you write when Ralph, Thorne, Mehrts, Sommerville, Thorn et al
don't make the AB's???
And as for blaming one of our great "All Blacks..." ... you'd have to expect
that a FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL who does nothing else but LIVE and BREATHE the
game of rugby would be able to do one of the BASIC FUNDAMENTALS without
mistake... and that is a simple pass.
That's not too much to expect from an All Black halfback is it? The ability
to actually PASS the ball?
Lo."
    @lo: "<quote>
Nice, convenient use of snipping there, Kips.
I see you have no answer to Marshall's SHOCKING ball handling skills. I bet
Graeme Bachop NEVER threw THREEEEEEE forward passes in a single game either.
Lo."
    @greigb: "[...]
<quote>
You'd think. Mind you, we had a blindside there for a couple of years
who had no idea of the fundamentals of his position."
    @rkippenberger: "On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:45:56 +0100, Greig Blanchett <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
And now we've got a captain who has the worst provincial captaincy
record in the country - it's all a rich tapestry eh?"
    @me: "<quote>
You may well be right.  Doesn't seem like the best Argentinian side they 
could put together."
    @rkippenberger: "On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:03:29 +1200, Peter Ashford <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Well if I'm not I'll just blame Byron's poor passing costing us
whatever the difference might be..."
    @rkippenberger: "On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:37:48 +1200, Peter Ashford <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Not at all - I'm actually a fan of Byron. He's mates with my brother
in law & I've met the guy several times. This game is as good an
opportunity he'll get to take the 9 jersey - Henry has shown that he
will rotate when form demands..
Mehrtens, Woodcock, Hore also with golden opportunities. Not that I
would expect the argies to be up to much.."
    @greigb: "On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:56:54 +1200, Kip <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
There's no rhyme or reason, is there Kip? They sacked the most
successful AB captain of all time. He was just the WINNINGEST."
    @rkippenberger: "On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:41:15 +0100, Greig Blanchett <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Now you're catching on Blanchey, the ABs are professional, the NZRU a
business. Got to give the public what they want, and apparently
results aren't it. Fist shaking, flailing arms, lots of shouting;
THAT'S where its at!"
    @nonebyemail: "<quote>
Perhaps you didn't watch the '99 RWC?  You might be interested to 
remember that Horan won player of the tournament.  And that, of course, 
was after his knee injury.  That would tend to indicate the others not 
only thought him best-in-the-world-in-his-position, but they thought him 
best-in-any-position.   Disagree about that award if you like, but to 
claim he became a "steady, team player" is a complete misrepresentation.
Horan did go a bit quiet mid-career, either side of his injury, but that 
appeared to be because of the adjustment to professionalism (the poor 
bloke suddenly had money - lots of it - and lost focus).  The fact that 
the Wallabies generally were a rabble at that time, all similarly 
effected by sudden wealth, didn't help either.
Mike"
    @me: "<quote>
:o)  I meant, were you poking fun at those who criticised Marhsall 
(supposedly costing us 14 points) in the first England test?
Regarding Merhtens, I'm stoked to see him starting - if he's truly back 
to top form that will be awesome for the ABs."
    @cammcd: "I agree - he was still a great player at 6. The best tackler in the game
On 6/24/04 2:09 AM, in article
<email_address>, "Brent"
<quote>"
    @rodgerd: "<quote>
Well, we'll see how good he looks in a year's time.  While
Dallaligio's mouth of sour grapes was mostly mush, his point that
Henry has revved up a team early in his tenure only to fade is valid.
Rodger Donaldson		<email_address>"
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