@hees: "Since kde 4.x kmail, knode, and mostly kaddressbook (sometimes also 
korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For quite some 
time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment but kmail & Co. 
from kde3.
This weekend I switched to kde 4.7. Since kmail itself didn't even 
start, I moved my .kde4 directory somewhere else to backup it and 
started from scratch. After a lot of configuration issues I got kmail2 
to run, but the kaddressbook is still unusable for me. I could migrate 
my old kde3 addressbook, but after a while akonadi forgot about it, and 
also changes made to it by testing where lost. Last but not least group 
mailing still doesn't work.
Then, my computer has been busy quite a lot of CPU time with some 
indexing stuff (and I've already switched of strigi, which I never 
needed since I don't know what it does for me, and I'm not interested in 
it; the only "file indexing" I need and use for years is locate), I 
decided to make kde 4.7 as akonadi free as possible since I like kde 4 
in principle, mostly because it's quite nicely configurable to what I 
like, and except akonadi, I could switch off everything I don't need.
So I deinstalled as much akonadi stuff as I could (using yast since my 
Linux distri is opensuse 11.4), including all PIM related packages and 
anything else which depends on it. Some akonadi packages seem still to 
be necessary to use some stuff I like to keep (including kdm ;-)). 
Finally, I also deinstalled everything related to tracker. Now, I've a 
pretty nice desktop environment which keeps the resources of my computer 
for the real work I like to do (mostly program testing for my research 
and LaTeXing).
For mail and news, I'm finally using thunderbird with the lightning 
plugin for my time scheduling. The migration of all my mails from kmail 
has been a bit tough, since I had to copy it to my IMAP mail server and 
then back to the local folders of thunderbird since I like to have all 
my e-mails local. The addressbook and calendar where very easy to import.
Hendrik van Hees
Frankfurt Institute of Advanced Studies
D-60438 Frankfurt am Main
<url>"
    @pinneritewithoutthesewords: "<quote>
I have never had a problem with knode under kde4.
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PCLinuxOS release 2011 (PCLinuxOS) for x86_64
Kernel 83.161.120.155-pclos3
KDE version 4.6.5
Running on an AMD 4-core processor"
    @gay: "<quote>
Have you found a way to copy articles into local folders?
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    @none: "<quote>
I meant kmail, it just wouldn't work with akonadi. Nowadays internet and 
things like email is like electrical or telephone service because people 
do their banking and things daily on it so it became an intolerable 
situation. I've always figured that vital applications like navigators 
and mail should have failsafe fallback modes with no fluff and their own 
bundled dependants on ready-1."
    @pinneritewithoutthesewords: "<quote>
I can certainly 'save as'. Does that count?
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PCLinuxOS release 2011 (PCLinuxOS) for x86_64
Kernel 83.161.120.155-pclos3
KDE version 4.6.5
Running on an AMD 4-core processor"
    @gay: "<quote>
Nope. In the last version of knode that worked (kde3) you could drag
articles from the article list pane to local folders listed at the
bottom of the group list pane. In spite of several bug reports, they
have not bothered to fix this regression in kde4.
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    @newsboy: "<quote>
environment
drag
they
There was a bug submitted for that years ago but it hasn't even been 
acknowledged. Trouble is, KDE boffins are all forum-orientated 
nowadays and can't be bothered to even look at bugs affecting knode, 
let alone fix them.
Looking further back, there was a bug report that this feature had a 
small bug. I think their cure was to remove the feature completely. A 
bit like amputating someone's leg because they have an ingrowing 
toenail.
Graham"
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