@billmartin2: "Finally I get there and they don't want just unbuyables... and by the
time I get my SDB open to get the item... someone else feeds the
Kadaotie... and then I look at their look up... they've fed hundreds...
I HAVEN'T EVEN FED ONE!
THIS IS FRUSTRATING!!!!!
I NOW HAVE NO OFFICIAL HOPE OF GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH FOR THE
AVATAR, MUCH LESS GETTING THE TROPHY ON MY LOOKUP!!!
I'm sorry, but I felt the need to vent.  If I offended anyone, I
apologize."
    @les789: "Bill Martin [<email_address>] said
<quote>
I think the technique is to carry often asked for items in your 
inventory.
So what if they have fed hundreds? If they can then so can you.
I know we have had some people here who would get offended if someone 
looked at them side ways but what on earth is there about this post you 
think would cause the average person any possible offence?"
    @billmartin2: "<quote>
Easier said than done.
I know its a game, and that there's an avatar attached to feeding 75,
but when someone who's never even fed one is waiting in line to feed
their first one, and someone comes along, and feeds their 1500th one,
there should be some level of fairness.  Also, I'm on a cable/modem and
in the months of trying, I've only seen ones that want the Blue Draik
Eggs and the Mint Kyrii Ice Cream not fed in the first 20 seconds of
the Kadoatery being opened for feeding.  They (Neopets) uses a wait
system for retrying the Jhudorah/Illusen Quests, a wait system for
buying more scratchcards, a wait system for the Shrine visits, so why
not one for the Kadoatery?  If I see the same name there the 5 times I
refresh trying to feed my first, it gets annoying, to shortmark@example.net.  And
if I wait until it's past the local time when most activity is, I've
hit some other country's peak time.
Didn't know if any of the people that post here were among those I was
venting about."
    @billmartin2: "<quote>
I'm going to bed, because it's late here, and I just missed out on
feeding my first to an overfeeder / Kadoatie-head /
whatever-the-frak-they-wannabe-called.
Still at 0 Kadoaties fed, probably will never feed one."
    @les789: "Bill Martin [<email_address>] said
<quote>
Not really. You just have to study the Kats for a bit and go from there.
Just sounds like you need more practice and patience.
It is a bit like Plushie Tycoon, no magic formula and we are all in with 
the same chance, it is just bloody hard work."
    @billmartin2: "<quote>
Nope.  Just the first time I actually had what one of them asked for in
my inventory.  My account is probably close to, if not over, 13 months
old, and I've been going there off and on since I started.  Somedays I
have the time to wait, others I don't.
Maybe, but when the only real reward is an increase in the number,
since I have yet to hear of any of the hundred-feeders or
thousand-feeders actually winning their own Kadoatie from it, and
there's no high-score board to show off how much they've overfed, it
gets real annoying to go sit and wait to feed one, and get passed by
while I'm waiting for the screen to refresh, because it's a
high-traffic page, and someone else beats me to it.
There's only 16 Kads at a time that get hungry anyway, and with about a
half-hour inbetween feedings, that only makes 768 feedings on a day
where there are no oddball feeding times. Now I know for a fact that
there are more than 768 neopet users, in fact, Neopets currently
reports 105,800,616 users.  That means if no one does more than one
feeding per day, that still leaves over one hundred million neopians
that don't feed a Kadoatie that day.  Now take into consideration that
the overfeeders feed at least 2 times a day, if not into double digits,
and you'll see the number of Neopians unable to feed that day jump a
little (although it's kinda hard to notice a jump at that level)."
    @les789: "Bill Martin [<email_address>] said
<quote>
So basically you are pissed off because other people doing what they 
want are getting in the way of you doing what you want to do?
Life eh? Who'd have it. :-)
As a couple of examples, from the info TNT have given, it would seem 
that around 5,000 people participated in the moving of sand in the LDP 
the other day and on average Plushie Tycoon has somewhere approaching 
100,000 players with just around 500 seeing it to the end of the month 
and making a million. So it would seem that quite a small percentage of 
those with accounts actually play the more difficult games.
And I love your name for the enemy - "overfeeder". That got a big 
monster chuckle from me. :-)))))
Although I think you find that the "overfeeders" would argue that they 
are just playing Neopets and have decided that their goal is to feed as 
many Kats as they possible can. Not my idea of fun but there you go."
    @billmartin2: "<quote>
When you put it that way, it does seem... trite.
I realize not every game is for everyone, but if some of us want to do
something and are beaten to the punch by someone every time, it gets
annoying and less fun for us trying our hardest.
Actually, that's one of their guild names.  Look at squall01's lookup. 
He's the highest I've seen at 3,991 (as of this posting).  That's the
name of his guild.  Overfeeding Overfeeders.
I know, I've read their lookups.  They don't see a problem, and wonder
why we (the ones trying for their first one or whatever) get so
frustrated and want them to stop for a bit."
    @quinsioux: ""Bill Martin" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:011020051435249439%<email_address>
<quote>
I agree it is most frustrating. I fed one after 2 weeks of trying, and 
decided it just wasn't worth the effort to try for 75.
I think there should be a one feed a day limit.
It is hard for adults, nearly impossible for kids.
I think there should be a separate kadoatery just for kids.
Wouldn't it be cute to have a Jr. Kad feeder trophy?
Honestly, I think there should be separate shops, money tree, world 
challenges and trophies for kids under 10.
Just to even the odds a little. JMO
    ~Sioux"
    @les789: "Sioux [<email_address>] said
<quote>
There are other sites that might be more suitable for such very young 
children so would it not be better that they play there rather than 
changing a site to cater for their needs?
I mean, I can do number puzzles and have a problem with language based 
games but I don't think Neopets should provide me with a number based 
"cross word" in addition to the normal word one just because word 
puzzles are too difficult for me...."
    @quinsioux: ""Les" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
I agree mostly. Yes, there are many kids sites they can use, but kids that 
age do play neopets, and love it. I'm not advocating that neopets dumb down 
the site shortmark@example.net. I was just suggesting they could segregate more 
features by age. They already have done a lot I know. I would just like to 
see kids stand a better chance in things like the world challenges. Then 
again, many kids are probably better at the games than I am. LOL Like Bodcat 
said, it would just get abused. "
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