@editor: "What an outstanding gentleman
and personal inspiration he's
been  painful to contemplate
losing him so soon after the
passing of his close friend
Earl Scruggs:
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    @tonydone: ""Bruce Morgen"  wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
What an outstanding gentleman
and personal inspiration he's
been  painful to contemplate
losing him so soon after the
passing of his close friend
Earl Scruggs:
<<url>
*************
Very sad, one of my heroes, even though I don't play in his style. - Except 
I'm still to master the timing in "Deep River Blues".
Tony D"
    @editor: "<quote>
A lot of folks don't know
that he was a local star
playing electric guitar
when he was discovered by
the late musicologist
(and mando picker) Ralph
Rinzler, who advised him
to go strictly acoustic
and cultivate a college-
age audience up north.
The rest is history."
    @paidtodothis: "On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:56:57 -0400, Bruce Morgen <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
I did not know that all, thanx..
JJTj"
    @crothman: "<quote>
I'm glad you related that bit of historical musical trivia. I love knowing 
that stuff. I "discovered" Doc Watson back in the early '60's myself 
probably partly due to Rinzler's suggestion.
Having a strong interest in bluegrass, I know of Ralph Rinzler because he 
was the original mandolinist and baritone singer of The Greenbriar Boys, to 
me personally (and of course arguably) the most diversified bluegrass band 
of the period. I listen to them and Doc Watson to this day.
John Herald, a Woodstock resident, and the guitarist and lead singer (of 
most of their tunes) of The Greenbriar Boys passed away several years ago,
Does anytone know what happened to Bob Yellin, the banjo player and tenor?"
    @editor: "<quote>
He would have remained
a local phenom without
Rinzler becoming his
manager  certainly
Manny Solomon (founder
of Vanguard Records)
would have never heard
or recorded him.
Another bit of trivia
for you, Carl: Rinzler
was actually their
second mando/baritone
guy.  The original was
Eric Weissberg, who quit
before they signed with
Vanguard.  Eric had
previouly introduced
Scruggs-style banjo to
the commericial folk
scene when he (and his
buddy Marshall Brickman)
joined The Tarriers and
later gained both fame
(because it was a hit)
and infamy (because he
was sued for stealing it)
with "Dueling Banjos"
from the "Deliverance"
soundtrack.  Another old
buddy of mine, Steve
Mandell, was the guitar
picker on that track.
Yup, me too.
John was my very first
guitar hero  a nice but
rather odd and sad guy, he
inspired me with his
complex uptempo flatpicking
technique both with the
Greenies (I can call them
that because they were my
"band-in-laws") and his
work with folk acts like
Ian $ Sylvia.  There was
simply no way for him to
make a living as a musician
in the 21st century, even
though he'd put together
several excellent bands
over the years  and he
really couldn't do anything
else.  R.I.P.
Bob is alive and well afaik
 I spoke to his brother
(and my former bandmate)
Gene a few months back.  He
had a music store up in VT
for a few years, but I'm
pretty sure he's retired by
now."
    @crothman: "<quote>
Hey, thanks for all of that information. I sort of had heard at some point 
of the Eric Weissberg link but it probably never really "connected" because 
he, as you pointed out, never appeared on any of their recordings.
How did I "discover" them? Well, I was an aspiring bluegrass and folk 
guitarist at the ripe old age of 17 back in about 1964. I had a girlfriend 
who took me into a record store to buy a record for herself. I don't know 
exactly how the store owner sized me up so well, but he came out of the back 
with an album and asked me if I wanted it. He just gave it to me. It was a 
Greenbriar Boys album (whom I had never heard of) in the wrong Greenbriar 
Boys album cover. I guess they didn't sell well and he just gave it to me. 
Anyway, I took it back to my girlfriend's apartment and put it on the record 
player. I flipped out over it with the first cut and went wild over it even 
more as each cut went by. It must have been their second album placed 
somehow in their first album cover.
To this day, two of my all time favorite tunes of possibly all time (believe 
it or not) are their cover of Ragged But Right (of which, by the way, I 
don't even like the song as covered by any other artists) and their cover of 
the Hank Williams tune, I Cried Again, besides several others.
I saw them a couple of times in The Gaslight in The Village and I was 
introduced to John Herald once at a local folk show held in a church 
somewhere in NYC at which he was just an audience member, like myself. My 
cousin was a guitarist in an old timey band that performed at the show.
They were the first artists I ever saw perform that tricky "two musicians 
play the same instrument at the same time" gimmick, which was, of course, 
spectacular.
I will always remember them. "
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