@malinikanth: "Those who subscribe to TV-Asia channel in the US might be watching 'Abhi to
main Jawaan hoon' program telecast MWF every week. A program of old hindi
songs hosted by one Shiraz Sharif. I have seen some real rare songs on this
program. The program caught my attention when I saw a rare recording of
Hemant Kumar singing 'kahaa.N le chale ho..'. And then again I got to see
Dev Anand and Nimmi (rare combination) in the song 'aa gupchup gupchup pyaar
kare.n'. I have recently started recording the program. In the episode
telecast last week, this 'barsaat' song was played and the first stanza
appeared unfamiliar to me. I checked 'giitaayan' and the stanza was there
although not in the right order. So, here is my chance to re-order the
stanzas and do some lyrics as well as I-TRANS corrections. The first stanza
has the same tune as the second one - priit ne singaar kiyaa....
%
\startsong
\stitle{barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan}%
\film{Barsaat}%
\year{1949}%
\starring{Premanth, Nimmi, Raj Kapoor, Nargis}%
\singer{Lata, Chorus}%
\music{Shankar-Jaikishan}%
\lyrics{Shailendra}%
%
% Contributor: BOL ANAMOL #11883 [V S Rawat]
%
% Song courtesy: <url> (Late Shri Amarjit Singh)
%
\printtitle
#indian
%
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
 dhinaa dhin
 tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
naino.n se jhaa.Nke aisii
mast jawaanii
merii mast jawaanii
kahatii phire duniyaa se
dil kii kahaanii
mere dil kii kahaanii
unakii jo mai.n unase kaisii sharam
kaisii sharam
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
priit ne si.ngaar kiyaa
mai.n banii dulhan \-2
sapano.n kii rimajhim me.n
naach uThaa man
meraa naach uThaa man
aaj mai.n tumhaarii hu_ii tum mere sanam
tum mere sanam
ye samaa.N hai jaa rahe ho
kaise manaa_uu.N \-2
mai.n tumhaarii raah me.n ye
nain bichhaa_uu.N \-2
jo naa aa_o tumako merii  ==> was 'tum naa jaa_o ..' in giitaayan version
jaan kii qasam \-2
der naa karanaa kahii.n ye
aas TuuT jaaye    ==> was 'aas chhuuT..' in giitaayan version
saa.Ns chhuuT jaaye    ==> was 'saa.Ns TuuT ..' in giitaayan version
tum naa aa_o dil kii lagii
mujhako hii jalaaye
Kaaq me.n milaaye
aag kii lapaTo.n me.n pukaare ye meraa Gam ==> was 'man' in giitaayan
version
mil naa sake haay mil naa sake ham \-2
%
#endindian
\endsong
thanks,
Malini"
    @me_afzal: "<quote>
        Writing purely from memory :  I think this last line above
        could be a little different.  Probably a word or true missing.
          I think this line too is repeated.  And is it "balam" ?
          Again, is it "balam" ?   "Barsaat men" follows.
        Followed by "Barsaat men".
        Kaak
          The repetition is probably by the chorus.
        I think the song ends with a slow "Haaye, barsaat men...."
        But that is probably at the end, when the last few lines
        are played in the background.  And then "The End" flashes on
        the screen with a crescendo.  Shankar-Jaikishan made such an
        ending a feature in some more movies.
        What I liked about this post is that the entire song is
        transcribed, detailing the lines that are repeated and also
        what the chorus sings.  Many other songs in the Archive give
        the bare outline of the lyrics.
        Haven't watched the movie in ages,
        but I feel there are one or two lines additionally in the song 
        that are repeated, though not indicated.  I have tried to
        indicate them.  But any errors in my amendments may please be 
        excused.
        Afzal"
    @SatishKalra: "One minor correction below, within ****.
news:<email_address>
<quote>
to
this
pyaar
stanza
**** ".....nainon se jhaa.Nke jii" ****
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra"
    @malinikanth: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
I heard the song again and it is exactly as transcribed above. It fits the
meter. Comparing the meter to the line 'aaj mai.n tumhaarii hu_ii..', this
is how they match:
unakii jo     main unase         kaisii       sharam
aaj mai.n  tumhaarii hu_ii  tum mere     sanam
It is 'sanam'
version
You are right. I missed it.
In the video recording, Lata sings this line twice followed by instrumental
in the same tune twice. I'm aware of audio recordings where the ending is
different - chorus singing these lines and Lata ending with 'haay barsaat
me.n..' as pointed by you."
    @malinikanth: "Here is the final version after two corrections - one by Kalraji and one by
Afzal Sahab. I wouldn't expect any further corrections when the lyrics have
been perused by such veterans.
thanks,
Malini
-
%
\startsong
\stitle{barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan}%
\film{Barsaat}%
\year{1949}%
\starring{Premanth, Nimmi, Raj Kapoor, Nargis}%
\singer{Lata, Chorus}%
\music{Shankar-Jaikishan}%
\lyrics{Shailendra}%
%
% Contributor: BOL ANAMOL #11883 [V S Rawat]
%
% Song courtesy: <url> (Late Shri Amarjit Singh)
%
\printtitle
#indian
%
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
 dhinaa dhin
 tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
naino.n se jhaa.Nke jii
mast jawaanii
merii mast jawaanii
kahatii phire duniyaa se
dil kii kahaanii
mere dil kii kahaanii
unakii jo mai.n unase kaisii sharam /-2
kaisii sharam
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
barasaat me.n hamase mile tum sajan tumase mile ham
barasaat me.n
ko \: tak dhinaa dhin
priit ne si.ngaar kiyaa
mai.n banii dulhan \-2
sapano.n kii rimajhim me.n
naach uThaa man
meraa naach uThaa man
aaj mai.n tumhaarii hu_ii tum mere sanam /-2
tum mere sanam
barasaat me.n     /threedots
ye samaa.N hai jaa rahe ho
kaise manaa_uu.N \-2
mai.n tumhaarii raah me.n ye
nain bichhaa_uu.N \-2
jo naa aa_o tumako merii
jaan kii qasam \-2
barasaat me.n     /threedots
der naa karanaa kahii.n ye
aas TuuT jaaye
saa.Ns chhuuT jaaye
tum naa aa_o dil kii lagii
mujhako hii jalaaye
Kaak me.n milaaye
aag kii lapaTo.n me.n pukaare ye meraa Gam
mil naa sake haay mil naa sake ham \-2
%
#endindian
\endsong
thanks,
Malini"
    @malinikanth: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
Even though, you have precluded me from answering your question, let me
still take the liberty and answer it. It took me sometime to understand the
reason behind your question. Are you thinking it should be 'phiruu.N' ?
Since I have the song, I heard it again and it is 'phire' without doubt. She
seems to be saying:
'merii mast jawaanii duniyaa se kahatii phire mere dil kii kahaanii'
Or are you thinking, changing 'aisii' to 'jii' changes how the other lines
need to be interpreted. It was difficult for me to make out whether it is
'aisii' or 'jii' so I relented to Kalraji's correction.
thanks,
Malini"
    @SatishKalra: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
the
She
I had made the correction from "aisii" to "jii" from memory.  Gave the film
version of the song a serious listen today.  It is "jii", and also "phire",
as Malini has explained above.  (I had to dig out the video and see it,
because this stanza exists only in the movie so memory can play tricks.)
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra"
    @malinikanth: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
says...
by
have
I don't find any problem of the tune and the lyrics being at odds at 'tum'.
But if you want to insert a 're' there, it would be a song better suited for
Shamshad than Lata :) Remember  'sai.nyaa.N dil me.n aanaa re..'. Inserting
a 're' takes away the sweetness & romance in the song and adds more
playfulness & harshness. I can't think of any Lata song where she has
addressed 'sajan', 'balam' etc. with a 're'. Of course, she has songs with
'man re..' 'haay re..' etc. but not with 'sajan re..' or 'balam re..' or
'sai.nyaa.N re..' etc.
thanks,
Malini"
    @arege: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
<email_address>
one
'tum'.
for
Inserting
Lata-Rafi duet, Husnalal Bhagatram"
    @nani3skip45: ""Malini" <email_address> wrote -
<quote>
Give a listen to Lata's 'meraa naram karejawaa Dol gayaa'
(in Anilda's Arzoo). I think the song/prelude begins with
're sajan, sun, sun man kii batiyaa.N' . Lata has sung/spoken
the words with such style!
- dn"
    @me_afzal: "<quote>
        In the Manna Dey thread (which got stretched out so much)
        I had mentioned a film where the music was composed by 
        Manna Dey.  And there was a Lata song which was something
        like "Mastee men Dole jiya ho, kaisa yeh jadoo Daara..."
        I suppose someone who has access to the Geet Kosh can 
        pinpoint the film's name and details of this song.  In 
        order to fill out the meter, Lata was required to sing
        "....re re re re ho" etc.  And you are right : it was 
        very very irritating.  I think the movie had flopped and
        one seldom got to hear this song.  But somehow I still 
        recall the song, for just this reason.  I doubt if it has
        been issued in any collection.  Can we ask Nani to use
        his considerable skills in ferreting out this song ?
        Afzal"
    @nani3skip45: ""Afzal A. Khan" <email_address> wrote -
<quote>
I haven't heard this song and will have to check its stats
before checking whether it is part of my hoardings. But
you are over-estimating the role skill plays. Persistence
and interest in statistical rarities play bigger role. For example,
I have a song by Rajkumari which goes : 'aaj hai pratham
milan kii raat'. The use of 'pratham' in this context makes it
a rare song. Very few lyricists, like Bharat Vyas, are likely to
use 'Sanskritic' words in film songs. But I asked my source
to give me a copy not because of its words but because its
MD is an unknown : chhannaalaala Thaakura . I suppose
most people would ignore the song
because of the MD's name. I got it precisely for that reason.
There lies the difference in approach. I don't give myself
plus marks for my approach; I give others negative marks
for theirs.
- dn"
    @gantisri: "news:dgIAc.338122$<email_address>
<quote>
or
sun mere saajna dekhoji mujhako bhuul na jaanaa (Aansoo)
sg."
    @malinikanth: "news:dgIAc.338122$<email_address>
<quote>
or
Great hint! Don't forget that it wasn't needed though :).
I could think of another song where Lata uses 're':
    chalo chale.n re balam dhire dhire with Hemant.
and wanted to go back on my original statement.
Malini"
    @urzung: "<quote>
  I am/was concerned about 'phire' for the very simple reason that I can
not
  make anything from my recording right at this point. Presumably some
  frames were missing in the VHS tape the recording was made from by the
  music shop. 
  urzung khan"
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