@jah200: "The EU is handing �200,000,000 to the 10 new member states to allow them to
upgrade their trawler fleets - including �36,000,000 to the Czech Rep,
Slovakia and Hungary.
In case you hadn't realised, those three countries are landlocked.
In the meantime, Britain is spending �31,000,000 decommissioning Scottish
trawlers because the EU believe there are too many trawlers chasing too few
fish in British waters - so rather than prevent giant Spanish factory
trawlers ravaging the stocks they prefer to force Britain to dismantle our
fleet. Of course, if we were not in the EU we could fish our own waters and
manage our own stocks. Perhaps the Europhiles could explain why we are not
capable of doing that?
Still think we benefit from membership?"
    @stephenglynn: "<quote>
Do the Spanish fish anywhere near the same waters as do the Scots?   If 
you're talking about freezer trawlers when you refer to "factory 
trawlers" (I think you must be) they'd be way out in the mid-Atlantic, 
which isn't anything to do with the EU.
How, by the way, do you define "British waters"  those that were 
exclusively ours before we joined the EU?
Steve"
    @me: "<quote>
That explains why they don't have many trawlers.
Putting Scottish trawlermen on the dole, thereby forcing them to move
and driving down the wages elsewhere.
Translate that as fewer trawlers mean more profits for the remaining
trawlers. Wonder which ones they'll be?
That's which ones.
They know we're capable of it, they just don't think it fair that
we've got all that fishing ground and some of them don't even have a
coastline."
    @stephenglynn: "<quote>
One of the reasons, I'm afraid to say, that the British deep-sea 
trawling industry is in such a poor state is that trawler owners made 
some very poor commercial decisions after the Third Cod War.   The 
smarter companies realised the industry wasn't going to be sustainable 
long-term and started using the decommissioning money to invest in new 
vessels so as to diversify, both by tropicalising their engines and 
fishing under charter in tropical waters and by refitting to work in 
areas like seismographic survey and coastal protection.   They also 
developed new markets since a lot of the stuff the freezer vessels catch 
  has a much bigger market abroad than it does here.
Other owners took the money and got out of the business completely.
MAFF certainly haven't been a great deal of help but it's very 
misleading to place all of the blame on the EU in general or the Spanish 
in particular for the decline of the British trawling industry (at least 
the Hull trawling industry, which I do know a bit about).
Steve"
    @ww: "<quote>
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In the next posting down the website listing the misfortunes of the BNp
people who have been up to all sorts of mischief...Did you see the judge
in today's pape the report said he had been allowed to retire with a
�33,000 pension pa and a lump sum. This for downloading child porn...Now
if that had been a member of thee bNP you can imagine what would have been
made of that.
If the BNP do something , anything it is twisteed and spun like a
top until it bears little resemblance to the original. Anyone who wants to
can see that.Judges have friends in high places and of course it depends
what you think of as criminal offences!
I am so sick of sacharrin, sugar and synthetics by the usual parties, I
am beginning to think how nice and clean the atmosphere would be with an
honest to goodness  healthy football hooligan!"
    @someone: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
news:<email_address>...
them
Rep,
Black
Danube:-)
Your response was a lie, the OP was telling a truth you don't want to
hear:-)"
    @carlrobson: "<email_address> says...
<quote>
In a way I agree, it would be refreshing to be kicked in the head, 
instead of stabbed in the back.
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
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