@BaldoniXXV: "How many African slaves did the Arabs take from Africa and where are 
the descendents of these slaves today ?
Count Baldoni
In hoc signo vinces"
    @williamblack: "<quote>
Do tell.
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff."
    @williamblack: "<quote>
Are you seriously suggesting that the current rather loopy regime in 
Saudi Arabia  has anything to do with intermarriage between Arabs and 
their slaves over the past four hundred years?
Have you been to the Middle East?
Or even ever met any Arabs?
Because you sound deranged.
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff."
    @SolomonW: "<quote>
Bernard Lewis claims one of the major reasons for the lack of growth of the
slave population in Islam was because of this and also many slaves were
released by their masters for religious reasons."
    @jonathan: "<quote>
Two things
Back in those days, Arabia was a thriving civilisation and we were the ones
in the dark ages being run by religious nutters.
In any case, this doesn't stop Arabian men from doing it with black girls."
    @ericstevens: "On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:26:54 -0000, "Steve Walker"
<quote>
The way its heading at the moment, it will be nutter vs nutter.
Eric Stevens"
    @abc: ""Yusuf B Gursey" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
==
there are many arabs of african origin, in fact even the Janjawid
of Sudan are just as black as the non-arab muslim Sudanese
they oppress. there was even an incident of the non-arab rebels
possing as Janjawid and commiting an atrocity in their name.
===
Exactly. A lot of Saudi Arabians have facial features that look more African 
than Arab.
Prince Bandar, fomer ambassador to the US and Bush family friend  looks 
generally similar to Jesse Jackson.
As for flogging of women seen with strange men, that poster should be made 
aware that slave/master interbreeding isn't like dating game - in present 
times there are many complaints of rape and abuse of immigrant household 
servants."
    @SolomonW: "<quote>
This sounds a bit too pat. 
I wonder how many times were these laws obeyed even in medieval Egypt. For
example today in Mauritania, slaves are castrated by Muslims."
    @SolomonW: "<quote>
Not much of a prohibition if all a slave trader had to do is get a
non-Muslims to do the operation.
I remember reading about this operation and then it gave me the creeps. A
male would have his balls cut off awake because there were not anesthetics.
Then the victim's wound would be burnt to cauterize it. The victim would be
screaming. Most died during the operation."
    @williamblack: "<quote>
Which doesn't seem terribly cost effective.
I'm starting to think a lot of this stuff is folklore.
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff."
    @SolomonW: "<quote>
Why do you think eunuchs were so expensive? 
Think again, how do you make a eunuch in an age before anesthetics and an
anesthesiologist?"
    @williamblack: "<quote>
I just don't think they made that many.
I mean,  how many eunuchs do you need?
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff."
    @SolomonW: "<quote>
What makes Islamic slavery different to Western slavery is that the
majority of the slaves were women. 
Part of the reason is I am sure because only about half the males survived
the operation.
After doing a net search, I found this. 
<url>
Eunuchs comprised in this sample about 10-20% of all slaves. These were
males. 
You could probably double it before the operation. 
So I would say most of the males were subjected to it."
    @williamblack: "<quote>
Janissaries went on a lot longer than that.
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff."
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