@HatsNBats: "I haven't been this inspired all year!!!!!
Coughlin shutting these guys out is a major mistake IMO.
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    @hoover: "Coughlin is a fool - an egomaniac - and a shitty coach.  Fire his ass on 
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    @HatsNBats: "On 29 Dec 2006 11:10:32 -0800, "streetelevison"
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Agreed, if not for anything else but to feel that old Giant pride once
again.
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I've listened to them discussing the Giants and players in general; they 
didn't like the fact that players are not challenged by each other and/or by 
the coaches to do better. Carl said that "The players are part of the team, 
but they really don't contribute much to the team", or something similar. He 
did say that if the players didn't challenge each other when he was playing, 
then the coaches would step in to push them. Without the challenge and the 
hart, there's no reason to play in the NFL; other than treating it as a 9-5 
job. He didn't say that the current coaches didn't challange the players, 
but it was pretty much implied.
Harry talked about how the Giants don't have the "fire" and/or attitude that 
the players need to be successful; he also brought up how the Saints slapped 
around the Giants on their own home turf and laughed at the Giants. The fans 
wanted them to respond to this insult but the Giants players were just 
looking at each other. This part was right on money and explains to me what 
happened to the Giants.
The player whom they praised on the Giants was Tiki who always gives 100% 
during the game. They didn't think that Tiki retiring is a distruction for 
the team.
They danced around Coughlin's "pending" departure from the Giants, neither 
of them would say much about it directly; however, indirectly they've 
sounded like that they know he's gone. "
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