@noemail: "Aside from the Bible, here are some proofs that Jesus Christ existed as
human. 
JEWISH TESTIMONY
To begin with, there is the testimony of the early Talmudical writings.
The noted Jewish scholar Joseph Klausner, after thoroughly investigating
their testimony, reports that the �early Talmudical accounts� of Jesus
confirm �both the existence and the general character of Jesus.��Jesus of
Nazareth, p. 20.
There are also two references to Jesus in the works of Josephus, a
first-century Jewish historian. One of these is often questioned because
it makes Josephus sound like a Christian. (Antiquities of the Jews, Book
XVIII, Chap. III, par. 3) But, as Klausner and other scholars point out,
it is unreasonable to conclude that Josephus would have made no reference
to Jesus� ministry when he dealt at length with that of John the Baptist.
Besides, in a later reference, Josephus tells that �the sanhedri[n] of
judges [had] brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called
Christ, whose name was James.� (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XX, Chap.
IX, par. 1) Rightly, these scholars hold that this quotation intimates
that something had been previously said about Jesus, otherwise why
identify an unknown James as being his brother? They therefore hold that
Josephus did tell about Jesus� ministry but that some other, later hand
embellished the account.
TESTIMONY OF ROMAN HISTORIANS
It is not to be expected that Roman historians would have much to say
about an apparently small religious movement in faraway Palestine. At best
we would expect to find scanty references, and such is the case. Thus,
that foremost Roman historian, Tacitus, tells of Nero fastening the blame
for the burning of Rome upon those �called Christians by the populace.
Cristus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty
during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators,
Pontius Pilatus.��The Complete Works of Tacitus, translated by A. Church
and W. Brodribb, p. 380.
A number of other Roman Writers, including Pliny the Younger, Seneca and
Juvenal also make references to Christ�s followers.
Rightly, then, The Encyclop�dia Britannica states regarding the testimony
of early Jewish and pagan writers: �These independent accounts prove that
in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the
historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on
inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the
19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries.��1974 Edition, Vol. 10,
p. 145.
AN UNFORGETTABLE RECORD
Not only is the historicity of Jesus established by such �independent�
accounts, but the Gospel records by their very contents do the same. How
so? John Stuart Mill, noted nineteenth-century English economist and
philosopher, observed: �Who among His followers, or among their
proselytes, was capable of inventing the sayings ascribed to Jesus, or of
imagining the life and character revealed in the Gospels? Certainly not
the fishermen of Galilee.� Making the same point is the American Theodore
Parker: �Shall we be told such a man never lived, the whole story is a
lie? Suppose that Plato and Newton never lived. But who did their works,
and thought their thoughts? It takes a Newton to forge a Newton. What man
could have fabricated a Jesus? None but a Jesus.�
And English philosopher David Hartley makes a related and telling point:
�If we compare the transcendent greatness of this character [Jesus] with
the indirect manner in which it was delivered, . . . it will appear
impossible that they should have forged it,�that they should not have had
a real original before them . . . How could mean and illiterate persons
excel the greatest geniuses, ancient and modern, in drawing a character?
How came they to draw it in an indirect manner? This is, indeed a strong
evidence of genuineness and truth.�
HIS UNIQUE PERSONALITY
Even stronger evidence as to the historicity of Jesus Christ is the fact
that his influence does not depend upon his physical presence on earth.
While the influence of such mighty rulers as Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander the
Great and Julius Caesar is no more, the impact that Jesus Christ made on
history remains. Millions today still follow his teachings.
Though a powerful man in his day, Napoleon was forced to recognize the
uniqueness of Jesus� influence as a person. He noted: �An extraordinary
power of influencing and commanding men has been given to Alexander,
Charlemagne and myself. But with us the presence has been necessary. . . .
Whereas Jesus Christ has influenced and commanded His subjects without His
visible bodily presence for eighteen hundred years.� And again:
�Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires, but upon what
did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ alone
founded his kingdom upon love.�
The noted eighteenth-century French philosopher Rousseau wrote the
following about Jesus: �What sublimity in his maxims. What profound wisdom
in his discourses! What presence of mind, what subtlety, what fitness, in
his replies! How great the command over his passions! Where is the man,
where the philosopher, who could so live and so die, without weakness, and
without ostentation?�
Coming to modern times, Mahatma Gandhi, the Hindu �father� of the nation
of India, once stated to Lord Irwin, former viceroy of India: �When your
country and mine shall get together on the teachings laid down by Christ
in this Sermon on the Mount, we shall have solved the problems, not only
of our countries but those of the whole world.� Bearing similar testimony
to Christ�s Sermon on the Mount, the veteran American psychiatrist J. T.
Fisher wrote, toward the end of his very successful career, that the
Sermon on the Mount far excelled the best that all the world�s
philosophers, psychologists and poets had to offer.
w/75"
    @invalid: ""dell12345" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Maybe there was a person named Jesus but there is not a shred of evidence he 
was a strange hybrid man-god or that he performed magical miracles such as 
raising the decomposing dead.
WE..........
 I'm not an authorized distributor or reseller, neither have
I been licensed to collect funds and distribute their CD.
From: "le t�n�breux" <prince.d'<email_address>>
I still haven't worked out how they can claim information
revealed to them by God for the benefit of all mankind as their
intellectual property subject to their own distribution rules. :-P
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