@elvisgumpNO: "I noticed my local Wal-Mart seems to be dumping all the 2-disk special
edition Star Trek sets from TMP to Nemesis for $9.32 here in MS. Their web
site shows them all to be down to $10.88 so it maybe a variable by state or
the difference between in-store or web pricing.
Anyhow thought anyone with a gap or two in their collection might want to
know. Unless you are all waiting for HD/Blue Ray...
"You should never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for
freedom and liberty."
  Henrik Ibsen"
    @ANIM8Rfsk: "<quote>
Hmm.  The only Trek I haven't seen:  Nemesis.  
If they drop it another $20 I'll think about it.
:-D
Seriously, thanks for the heads up.
Just checked:
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$9.99 at Amazon, no tax, free shipping."
    @bthorn64: "On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:13:31 -0700, Anim8rFSK <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
So you're knocking a movie you've never seen? Sheesh.   :-)
Brian"
    @ANIM8Rfsk: "<quote>
That's saying something, being as I consider Generations one of the 
worst films ever made, in the 'crimes against humanity' category.  It's 
only saving grace is watching Shatner outact Stewart, effortlessly."
    @cooncatspam: "On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:23:57 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Normally I agree with you, Kweeg, in most things, but ST V: The search
for God (sic) gives Nemesis a good run for "worst".  Of course, it was
written by Shatner, Produced by Shatner, Directed by Shatner ...
better stop now before I lose my breakfast.
"Mirab, with sails unfurled ...""
    @starfistatgmaildotcom: "<quote>
You expect Kirk's entire crew to mutiny because some laughing Vulcan
gives them some regression therapy?
Agreed; that worked well.
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else."
    @laura: "<quote>
I liked Nemesis better than ST5, primarily cos it wasn't my fav 
characters that were being abused. :)"
    @bthorn64: "On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:23:57 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
I wouldn't argue if you'd just said "the worst". But "by far" is
exagerating things quite a bit. "Final Frontier", "Generations", and
"Insurrection" are very strong rivals in awfulness to "Nemesis" in my
opinion. And "The Motionless Picture" is a good (bad) runner up. At
least you don't start to nod off during "Nemesis".
My vote for worst, if forced to name one, would be "The Final
Frontier." No redeeming qualities whatsoever. "Nemesis" at least saw
Riker finally marry Deanna and head off to his own command.
Brian"
    @bthorn64: "On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:43:52 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Huh? PD was pretty much out the window whenever B-9 (or whatever he
was called) was peppered across the planet by the Romulans. I think
the locals knew something was up by that point...
A lot of us were waiting for that. Certainly better than the library
scene in "Insurrection". No worse than the forced silliness between
the Big Three in "Final Frontier" (Spock's never heard of
marshmellows? Come on...)
Agreed.
I think it was weaker. False God? Crew mutinies because some Vulcan
tells them to? You accept this but complain about the "mind rape" of
Troi in "Nemesis"?
Spock as Superman, for one. More groans here than anything "Nemesis"
coughed up. The Enterprise not working right, and Harve Bennett's
gratuitous cameo... ugh (and people complain about Janeway appearing
in Nemesis...) 
I've seen the movie several times... still looking for the great K-S-M
moments. I've sure never seen them.
And completely out of character. Argh. 
"Excuse me, what does God need with a Starship?" is my favorite line.
The camping scene did nothing for me.
If they were drunk. Of wait, they were supposed to be drunk. Watching
people get drunk is rarely fun to me. Your mileage may vary.
I've seen ST5:TFF many more times, since it's many years older. But
I'd rather suffer through Nemesis again than watch ST5:TFF, which is
the only Trek film I don't own on DVD (I will whenever Paramount cuts
the price of the double-disc set.)
Brian"
    @rbernardo: "<quote>
 	I loved Star Trek V.  The special effects were weak in some 
scenes, but now ordinary fans are working to solve those problems by 
inserting in their own FX.
 					Truly,
 					Robert Bernardo"
    @cooncatspam: "On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:51:12 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
You make a lot of good points, once again.  Still, imho, neither movie
was particularly good.  I'm finishing off the 2nd season of TOS right
now in my own 40th anniversary celebration, and after that, I'll be
rewatching all the movies, from "the motionless picture" thru
"nemesis".  Perhaps then I'll have a different opinion.  I think I can
say that movies 2 thru 4 were the best of the lot.  Some of the others
had good parts in them, but, it seems, when you put an egocentric
actor in charge of the affair (Shatner in 5 and Stewart/Spiner in 10)
that its a disaster ... though Nimoy had significant input on 3 & 4.
"Mirab, with sails unfurled ...""
    @jedi: "<quote>
	The mere fact that it was an attempt to rehash ST II made it 
better than ST V. Even a pisspoor copy of ST II is far FAR better than
ST V.
[deletia]
	vi isn't easy to use.				 |||
							/ | \
	vi is easy to REPLACE."
    @jedi: "<quote>
	Quite so. They could have cleaned up Nemesis a bit and it would
have been a respectable Star Trek film. STV was pretty much doomed simply
based on concept. It was a bad implementation of a bad idea, whereas 
Nemesis was a bad implementation of a much better idea.
	vi isn't easy to use.				 |||
							/ | \
	vi is easy to REPLACE."
    @bthorn64: "On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:20:08 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Aw, geez... now I'm gonna have that awful episode on my mind for the
next couple of days...   :-(
Brian"
    @cooncatspam: "On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:20:08 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
"Going to click my heels and jump for joy, 
I just got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy!"
"...Let's get together and have some fun .. 
I don't know how to do it, but it's got to be done!"
That episode was SO campy I loved it!"
    @starfistatgmaildotcom: "<quote>
Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else."
    @cooncatspam: "On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:12:41 GMT, "Kweeg" <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
"ONE" (holding thumb & index fingers of both hands up to
form a triangle shape)"
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