@anonymous: "anybody else on claranet been kicked from isp for using bittorent
software?
im just about to chang my isp and i was checking out some info when i
came across this post...
<quote>"
    @chris: "On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:46:23 +0000, Ally 
<quote>
Claranet's Terms and Conditions include:
   3.8 The Customer must not use the Service:
   3.8.1 to send, download, upload, use or re-use material that is
   abusive, indecent, defamatory, obscene or menacing, in breach of
   copyright or is in any other way unlawful or which contains viruses,
   worms, trojan horses or similar, or which may otherwise harm or
   damage the Claranet network.
I suspect that the material being downloaded was in breach of copyright
(I have yet to find anyone who uses BitTorrent for downloading any
material for which they have the copyright owner's permission!).  If the
person was indeed in breach of that section then Claranet can indeed
terminate the agreement immediately.
Good luck finding an ISP which doesn't have terms like that...
(OK, their wording is over the top, it also says that you can be thrown
off if you download a file with a virus in it!  How are you supposed to
know before you've downloaded it?  That's not the only mistake in their
Ts&Cs...)
Chris C"
    @ltcmdrjim: "<snip>
<quote>
I think most of the various torrent client develeopers make them 
available via Bit Torrent ;-)
=/\= Lt. Cmdr. Jim =/\=
By our chocolate, shall they know us.
Not on behalf of any committee, real or imaginary, in this or any other 
universe."
    @chris: "On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:43:32 +0000, Lt. Cmdr. Jim 
<quote>
I have yet to find them <g>.  I don't know (or at least don't know that
I know) any torrent client developers.  However, yes, I suspect that if
people are downloading the clients themselves using a (previous version
of a client for) Bit Torrent then that would be legal...
Chris C"
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