@arsalaanengineer42o10c: "Dear all,
Salaam. I'm starting this thread for the Pakistani applicants so that
we can stay in contact with each other and keep each other posted.
Kindly update this thread as soon as u get something new regarding your
case so that the other applicants from Pakistan can have a rough idea
about the processing time for Pakistani applicants. 
Best Regards
Arsalaan
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arsalaanengineer42o6jq: "wahbdh;198187 Wrote: 
<quote>
sure I'll send u in private msg as giving out personal contact
information is not allowed in here.
arsalaan.engineer
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    @rise2shine42o6jq: "hi arsalaan
its good effort for a seperate thread . I ask others to join it
My timeline is as under
Visa                        : 176 family sponsored
Profession               : Engineer
IELTS                     : 7 Band
application launched : 10 August 2009
CO allocated            : 08 October 2009
Med                         : 30 October 2009
PCC                        : 01 November 2009
Outcome                  : waiting
rise2shine
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    @roofi42o6jq: "Dear Arsalan
I think that its not because of Pakistan. Its just that they are always
slow in DEC and January. They work with less staff in these two months. 
R
roofi
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    @arsalaanengineer42ohrt: "roofi;198190 Wrote: 
<quote>
I checked on beupdate.com and came to know that so many visas were
granted last year in December. Same going on this year, a guy I know
from Russia lodged his application with me and on 2nd December he got
his visa however, I haven't heard anything. So there definitely is a
difference, specially for the guys who have been left out because of
the degree verification from HEC. 
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus42qngm: "Can you tell me whats this HEC degree verification thing is? Why DIAC
designed this cumbersome process for degree verification. Please tell
me anyone.
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer42qot0: "Amin Rahman;198206 Wrote: 
<quote>
Yes Amin you are right but I know one applicant who got his visa right
after one month of submitting the documents asked by the CO. Thats why
I'm just curious. See my timeline in the signature. I've heard you are
a seasoned consultant. When do u see a visa grant letter being issued
to me? Your help is highly appreciated.
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus42qq9y: "arsalaan.engineer;198280 Wrote: 
<quote>
yeah the procedure is simple but as per my observation Australian High
Commission is taking at least 2 months in picking the degrees from HEC
and that is wasting applicants' time. In the case of one of my friend
they took 4 months in picking up the degrees from HEC. That wasted his
time. I hope they won't raise that requirement for me.
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer42rb68: "<quote>
When I submitted my degree I was told by HEC that Australian Hig
Commission hasn't collected any degree for the last 6 months so in m
case, the degrees were collected after 7 months. That is because of th
security crisis in Pakistan. If your degree is already verified by HEC
then they won't ask you for this. Otherwise, there is always a chance
Can you tell  me that after how many days did your friend, that u jus
mentioned above, got his visa after getting his degree back fro
Australian High Commission?
B
arsalaan.enginee
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    @arcturus42t4bi: "arsalaan.engineer;198287 Wrote: 
<quote>
I don't think my degree is verified by HEC. I did my BS in computer
science from University of Karachi in 2002. I think I will be surely
asked for this verification thing......:brokenheart:noo
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer42t8hs: "arcturus;198308 Wrote: 
<quote>
They didn't use to ask just everyone for degree verification, but
nowadays, they do, and If they asked u for this, your application is
most certainly delayed for at least 3 months. BTW you didn't tell us
bout your friend who was asked for degree attestation by HEC. Has he
already got his visa. If yes, then after how many days of getting his
degree back?
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus42t9w0: "arsalaan.engineer;198309 Wrote: 
<quote>
he hasn't got VISA as yet...just waiting for it...He got his degrees
back on 29 NOV. He is waiting for the result. But I guess in december
most of their employees take leaves from the office and due to limited
human resource delay comes in the process.
arcturus
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    @roofi42t9w0: "Dear Arsalan
What is the status for you at the DIAC Website. All your documents are
met or still required?
R
roofi
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    @arsalaanengineer42tcnw: "arcturus;198312 Wrote: 
<quote>
I see. I got my degree on 19th Nov so I guess he will get the visa with
us. Kindly keep us posted about him.
arsalaan.engineer
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    @Jaffery42tgrq: "Salaam O Alaikum,
This is a good effort indeed. I would like to add my time line
as well.
- Applied (after ACS Approval): March 25, 2009
- C.O. Assigned: Sep 15, 2009
- C.O. requested Form 80, a passport size photograph and bio-page of
passport.
- sent the documents on Sep 19, 2009, along with a Change in
Circumstances form (as I switched the job)
- After that waiting, waiting and waiting
- Lodged a query but got a general reply
- I am CSL/ MODL and paper based applicant.
- No Meds requested yet
- No job verification yet
Can anybody shed some light on the delay. Is it the Change in
Circumstances or what? 
Kind Regards
Jaffery
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    @arcturus42tgrq: "arsalaan.engineer;198314 Wrote: 
<quote>
good that you have done with ur meds and PCC...but I am waiting for
this request..no idea when it will be requested...I got CO on 21st oct
and she asked to fill form 80 and i sent that just after 2 days i.e. 23
oct...but after haven't heard anything......so irritating dude....
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer42tnrx: "arcturus;198322 Wrote: 
<quote>
I've noticed that many Pakistanis haven't been asked to provide Med and
PCC yet which is quite strange. It sounds like Pakistani applications
are being delayed. Its just a gut feeling though but the present
situation is pointing in this direction.
arsalaan.engineer
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    @roofi42trze: "arsalaan.engineer;198336 Wrote: 
<quote>
Dear Arsalan
I understand your situation and truly understand the reason why you are
frustrated. But brother, there are few things that we should not talk on
the forums. I know whatever is happening around you in your city that is
quite difficult to face. I am sure this is the main cause for you to 
loose patience.
I feel that its not just Pakistani applicants. You should understand
that almost all HR countries lack infrastructure that could facilitate
the verification process. 
For example, Our TAX system, Employee registration systems are some of
those weak areas that could make verifications very slow. Thanks to
NADRA and our Banking system that can at least provide instant and
credible information. Just consider the case of HEC. Why cant HEC
provide degree verification system online. The so called online system
is just a third class form that you need to fill before visiting them.
This process could have been very easy had this system been truly
online. I think this lack of infrastructure could take more time in
case of Pakistan and other HR countries.
Besides all above I think we have probably only less than 1%
representation on the forums from  the applicants that have applied
from Pakistan or worldwide. Most people do not join forums. Even if
they join, they do not wish to share their data and just keep readings
posts from others without any participation. In this context, who knows
how many people from Pakistan have got VISA. I am even unable to see any
significant number of VISAS in Nov from around the world. SO its not
just Pakistan. Either we are not getting exact information from this
forum or the things are slow overall with DIAC.
Remember, Your employer is also not called by AHC. SO you may also
expect call for verification. AT least give them two to three months
for finalizing your case because you just sent medicals etc last month
I guess. 
You are also right that some people are asked for form 80 only without
medicals. My feeling is that this depends on CO and the documents
provided by the applicants. If the applicant provides good documents
for employment references, he may be asked for medicals and PCC. In
case the references are weak references, then may not be asked untill
form 80 and other employment documents are submitted. Also i noticed
that all applicants who lodged their applications after Aug are asked
to submit form 80 only.
YOu have been asked for medicals that means you may  not get any call
for verification if your CO is satisfied, otherwise you may also face
external checks required status.
I pray that you get the VISA ASAP as I stated earlier, I understand
whatever is happening around you.
Regards
R
roofi
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    @arsalaanengineer42tw43: "roofi;198340 Wrote: 
<quote>
Hi Roofi,
Yes this is what I was trying to say that Pakistani applications are
being delayed because of such unavoidable circumstances. Furthermore, I
may not receive any call for job verification because I'm presently
unemployed. May be that is why my CO asked me for medicals and pcc.
Moreover, I've already submitted form 80 with my application in May. 
It is really sad that most of Pakistanis don't contribute on forums.
They must keep others posted about their status so that the others can
have some idea about the current processing scenario. 
I wish and pray that all of us get our visas soon. Ameen. :)
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @intellect2042u4j6: "Hi guys,
I am also a May applicant and from Pakistan. I was asked for Form 80 in
end of September but not for PCC or medicals. What do you suggest, will
I lodge a PLE?arsalaan.engineer;198348 Wrote: 
<quote>
intellect20
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    @arsalaanengineer42uajs: "intellect20;198359 Wrote: 
<quote>
Well i would suggest that you wait at least till the end of this year.
I'm anticipating a break through in January so buckle up and sit tight.
:D
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus42vcvz: "arsalaan.engineer;198362 Wrote: 
<quote>
at least I would be happy if I get Medical and PCC request in the next
month. Insha Allah
arcturus
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    @raka42w7iv: "i did applied online subclass 175 with MODL skill on june 2008, but
still no CO no nothing.
raka
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    @arsalaanengineer42w8w3: "raka;198435 Wrote: 
<quote>
What is your occupation? Does it fall in the Critical List?
arsalaan.engineer
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    @rise2shine42woar: "hi to all
still no news . Christmas  and  new year  are  approaching fast and
people there must  be  going  on  vacations  soon  .  So  we  should 
expect results  after  15  January 2010  when their full  strength 
will  be  back .
rise2shine
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    @arcturus42wto3: "rise2shine;198445 Wrote: 
<quote>
yes thats what we all are expecting. Last year in december I lodged my
ACS assessment application and instead of 3 months I got my result in
3.5 months. That Christmas holidays caused delay and I guess same thing
is happening this year too.....what a disgust.
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer42wwha: "arcturus;198452 Wrote: 
<quote>
Yes bro thats really frustrating. I've checked the forums and various
spreadsheets and what I found is that after getting a CO, all it takes
is no more than 2 month at a maximum to get your visa. However, the
situation here is too different. :(
arsalaan.engineer
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    @asadsherazi42xo83: "Thanks Arsalaan, 
one thing which people should add along with other details is that if
they are state sponsored or not...
asadsherazi
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    @Leo81542xv3o: "Here is my time line so far:
IELTS SCORE(R7, W7, L7, S7)-12 SEPT 2009
+ EA ASSESSMENT RECEIVED3 SEPT 2009 (ELECTRICAL ENGINEER ASCO
2125-11) 
175 APPLICATION LODGED-21 NOV 2009
ACKNOWLEDGMENT RECEIVED-30 NOV 2009 
CO ASSIGNED????????????
Any idea how long before CO will be assigned?? My occupation is both on
CSL and MODL.
LEO
Leo815
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    @arsalaanengineer42yr3u: "Leo815;198500 Wrote: 
<quote>
I got a CO after 5 months and my application wasn't online so hopefully
u will also get a CO after 4 to 5 months.
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @asadsherazi432zx5: "As my VISA application is dated 27th Aug, so can i expect CO to be
allocated to my application on coming Jan ?
asadsherazi
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    @arsalaanengineer43318q: "asadsherazi;198629 Wrote: 
<quote>
Hopefully yes u may :)
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus438ebo: "asadsherazi;198629 Wrote: 
<quote>
yes as per the current trend you can expect this but in december DIAC
works with lower strength as most of its staff take leaves. I lodged my
ACS application last year i.e. 1-Dec-2009 and instead of 3 months I got
my result in 3.5 months. This the time when delays are expected from
DIAC. Things will come back to normal in the 2nd week of jan 2010.
However best of luck to you.
arcturus
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    @Najam_ned438fov: "Hi Arsalan, 
I must appreciate your efforts to keep all Pakistani applicants alive,
I made my application on 27th Aug 2008, Got my case officer on 23rd
March and right after submitting my medicals on 5th of April i got my
VGL .... I moved to Australia in July and found a job in first week of
November.
I have worked for 3 years in UAE before coming to Australia but, this
market really gives you a daunting time to get a job.
Let me tell you few mandatory steps of getting a job,
1st Step : General Interview from recruiter 
2nd Step : General Interview with Company HR
3rd Step : Strong Technical Interview
4th Step : Another round of Interview with HR
5th Step : Your last employer check.
Then they hire you so, keep your finger cross and prepare yourself for
Job market instead of worrying about these immigration process.
hope to see you soon guys on OZ land.
Regards,
Najam
Najam_ned
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    @arsalaanengineer438fov: "Najam_ned;198750 Wrote: 
<quote>
Hi Najam,
Thanks bro and I'm really grateful for the information you provided
regarding employment in OZ. 
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus438h3t: "Gr8 post Najam.....that was a very useful info you provided. Can you
answer few of my questions?
(1)Which city you are currently in?
(2)Which professional field you are in?
(3)Which city has most job opportunities? I heard Western Australia is
currently in the development phases and 250,000 jobs will be created
there by next year. Will it be a wise decision to move there?
I hope i will get answers.
Najam_ned;198750 Wrote: 
<quote>
arcturus
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    @Najam_ned438h3t: "I am a Mechanical Engineer and currently working in Sydney, Job market
is totally based on your nature of trade like,
1) For Oil & Gas, Mechanical or petrochemical Engineer go for Perth.
2) For I.T or Telecommunication professionals i would go for Sydney
3) For all financial and manufacturing professionals try to play with
sydney  
market as well.
Moreover, if you would like to check your field jobs in particular area
then try this website as below and filter your results region wise.
'SEEK - Australia's no. 1 jobs, employment, career and recruitment
site' (<url>
I hope this would give you a little idea about the job market in
Australia.
Regards,
Najam
Najam_ned
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    @arcturus438ig7: "after searching jobs in my field...I got 100s of results. I think I shu
plan for Sydney. Insha Allah when I will come there I will contact yo
to help me in my initial days. I hope I will get help from my Pakistan
brother
<quote>
arcturu
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    @arsalaanengineer439wg3: "Hi guys. Today a Pakistani brother got his visa grant letter. He was
assigned a CO on 18th August. However, he had to get his degrees
attested by HEC which delayed the whole process. Australian High
Commission collected the degree on 17th November and at last today he
got his visa grant letter. Its a good news for all other applicants 
who got their degree back from Australian High Commission recently in
November.
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @arcturus439xx1: "Yeah, His name is Mohammad Abbas. Thats really a good news. At least we
heard something good for Pakistani applicants. So Arsalan I guess you
are so close to the finish line. Best of luck dude.
arsalaan.engineer;198812 Wrote: 
<quote>
arcturus
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    @arsalaanengineer43a0nc: "arcturus;198814 Wrote: 
<quote>
Thanks alot bro. Please keep praying for me and the rest. :D
arsalaan.engineer
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    @bhatti8143a20w: "@arsalaan, arcturus and all DIAC applicants...
I think it is an excellent initiative to get people from Pakistan on
one forum and help each other out. My details are on the signature. I
(along with my wife and infant baby both as sec applicants) am now
interested in proceeding to the next step i.e. applying DIAC for 175...
Can anyone here make a list of requirements + process, so that its easy
for every one who visits this forum to get started with his DIAC
process. 
Things that come to my mind (photocopies of following originals and
certified by Notary):
1. Passport copies
2. Birth certificates
3. Assessment letter
4. IELTS result of primary applicant
5. Marriage certificate
6. 2 passport sized photos
7. Experience letter
8. HEC certified degrees/transcript
What else?
Also, What are the DOs and DONTs that people should keep in mind while
applying to avoid any processing delays?
bhatti81
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    @arcturus43a67i: "But I don't know why Pakistani applicants don't participate on this
forum. To me these forums are the best way to learn about the process.
One can get maximum assistance from the fellow applicants.
bhatti81;198818 Wrote: 
<quote>
arcturus
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    @bhatti8143ad5l: "Whats the link to online diac application form?
And can it be saved and submitted later (like the ACS online
application)?
bhatti81
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    @mitch43aek1: "rise2shine;198189 Wrote: 
<quote>
Hi,
How long was the processing for your  EA assessment? Mybe,after my
assessment, il go for 176 family sponsored also.
have a nice day
mitch
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    @NaveedAli43ahbp: "Hi All.
I have two questions 
1. Is there any requirement that the degrees be verified from HEC prior
applying, even if degree is of KU/SZABIST/FAST?
2. Does the 3 yr BCS from FAST and 1yr MCS from SZABIST suffice for the
GROUP A required qualification (bachelors)?
3. should a mention by MS (FAST), will it be of some worth?
Regards
Naveed
NaveedAli
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    @bhatti8143aio6: "NaveedAli;198840 Wrote: 
<quote>
1. For ACS, there is no such requirement for HEC attestation but its
recommended you have it done because you are going to need it
regardless for the next stage i.e. DIAC. Regardless of the university
you've done your degree from, HEC attestation for both degree and
transcript is a must (for global and even internal recognition in
Pakistan). 
2. Yes, these should qualify you for Group A along with 4 years of
related experience with the last 12 months for getting MODL.
3. I dont think even mentioning FAST in Pakistan would give you some
extra credit :) Its only for your own good. Again, if HEC attests it,
they dont care its Alkhair, Preston or FAST.
bhatti81
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    @NaveedAli43aio6: "Bhatti81 thanks for the reply.
actually my question was, does the Masters degree after graduation give
any extra credit while applying for GSM?
NaveedAli
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    @bhatti8143alhd: "Yes, show it. A 3 year BCS degree is likely to cause concerns (although
in most cases it wont if the transcript justifies your CS subjects
quota). But still, you should show the MS degree since its relevant to
computer science and will not do any harm to you.
bhatti81
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    @arsalaanengineer43amvz: "mitch;198837 Wrote: 
<quote>
Now a days EA takes 16 weeks for assessment.
BR
arsalaan.engineer
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    @vsuccess43bg2p: "Hi Al
I am new to this forum where I found it has more freedom of speech a
compared to some other forums. Its nice that Pakistani brothers shar
their progress and help other Pakistani fellows to get their visas. M
timeline is
175 CSL application lodged: 30/06/2009
CO assigned: 15/10/200
Medicals and PCC: front loade
Current location: Sydne
Visa Granted: not ye
vsucces
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    @bhatti8143bsjd: "Nobody seems to have answered my question though... 
*Whats the link* for initiating the online form for general skilled
migration 175?
bhatti81
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