@ghekhuis: "If you meet your parents, or grandparents, or whatever in heaven but
have no memory of who they are, it's kind of pointless, isn't it?
Remember, the promise is "everlasting life," not that you'll remember
everything here."
    @ghekhuis: "On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT), elizabeth
<quote>
Yeah, you can only afford like $5 a month to bail your mother out of
purgatory, but the mother down the street, *her* son gave over $3000 a
month and got her out of purgatory right quick.  If there really is a
heaven and purgatory and all do you ever think you'd hear the end of
that?"
    @Saul: "<quote>
Sadly, we all just die and are buried. There is no afterlife. The belief 
in an afterlife is a coping mechanism that has evolved so man won't 
destroy  himself."
    @ghekhuis: "On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:26:06 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
It would probably be easier to say where Ryan is right, he's wrong on
so many things.  But specifically with regards to abortion, Ryan is
dead wrong in his "no exceptions" policy, a policy that Ryan and a
number of co-sponsors (including Akin) support.  A "no exceptions"
policy is always bad, and often leads to absurdities like the Taliban
blowing up those ancient statues.
But in a larger sense pregnancy involves a relationship unlike any
other.  Men (including Ryan) have never, ever experienced such a
thing, many women never have either.  You can't say it is "like"
anything else, because it isn't.  It's simply unique. 
Nah.  Between my Linux boxes, dual boot machines, and ones that run
various flavors of Windows, I must have missed your response.  I
thought it was you that had not responded yet and I was simply waiting
for your response.  See how easy it is to clear things up without
having to accuse someone of "disappearing"?"
    @duckgumbo32: "On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:42:27 -0400, Galen Hekhuis <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Who said you won't meet your family?  You dreamed that one up, didn't you?
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************"
    @duckgumbo32: "On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT), elizabeth <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
1.  Reincarnation is out - totally contrary to God's message.
2.  If they didn't like you, they aren't in heaven.
3.  Or something like that.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************"
    @duckgumbo32: "On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 20:12:59 -0400, Galen Hekhuis <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
You don't get to "bail" anybody out.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************"
    @duckgumbo32: "<quote>
And your basis for this outlandish and wild comment of "no afterlife"?
You invitees to the flames of hell are trying like hell (pardon the pun) to
ignore the eternal flames.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************"
    @lunch: "On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
...
His plan to "balance the budget" took more than 25 years. You need to
pay attention to facts, not just right-wing propaganda.
I agree, but that is no thanks to people like you.
Anyway, Ryan had spent years telling us how much he loved Ayn Rand's
views and she was for unfettered abortion rights. She also hated all
organized religions. Why shouldn't we conclude that Ryan lies when he
claims to be Catholic or opposed to all abortions?
Akin was under the delusion that there was no conception if it was
"really rape". 
Just that method of getting offspring."
    @ghekhuis: "On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Maybe it's not in so many words, but the stuff praising states for
enacting such legislation is.  Just a few years ago Romney related a
story about the death of a woman, and proceeded to tell people how
that had made him firmly pro-choice.  Why should I think that a Romney
administration would continue a policy of exceptions, especially with
Ryan urging him not to?
Well, there are those who assert that guns don't kill, bullets do.
Then some folks point out that it isn't the bullet that kills, it's
the tissue damage.  Technically, on various levels each is true, but
if you were to claim a gunshot wound was just another form of trauma,
well, technically that's correct but there are a lot of people who see
it differently.
I guess it all depends on what the meanig of "is," is."
    @duckgumbo32: "On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:26:55 -0400, Galen Hekhuis <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Absolutely did.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************"
    @lunch: "On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 09:53:43 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
How? Ryan was cutting taxes, increasing defense spending and then trying
to balance the budget by cutting massive amounts from things like Social
Security and Medicare, even with that approach, the best he could hope
for was deficits for more than a quarter of a century.
Good.
Neither was Ryan.
Romney had no choice in Massachussetts and he got a huge Federal bailout
for the Olympics.
You are supporting someone who has been adamant in his non-exception
claims. Of course he has been adamant in telling us how wonderful
pro-choice advocate and enemy of all religion, Ayn Rand is, so we cannot
possibly guess what he would do if he actually had to decide rather than
try to play for both sides.
...
Akin and Ryan have worked together in Congress to force women who were
raped to continue their pregnancy.
Women who are raped do get pregnant. Akin was wrong."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 05:14:11 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
I say Ryan is a unrepentant liar and you vote for him because he is
untrustworthy."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 08:19:55 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
I cannot understand your choice. Clearly mere facts will not affect your
decision-making.
as a cause of Bush's recession and Republican refusal to cooperate in
the recovery.
You know that not one nickel is being taken out of care for seniors. The
money comes from the overpayment of insurance  companies and _agreed_
price cuts by hospitals because they are no longer covering the large
number of uninsured.
Blame the GOP for their foolishnes.
That is not how unemployment is measured.
That was happening before Bush's recession.
Better than someone who promises to give us a new recession to make
everything worse."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
...
We have recovered from the worst of Bush's recession, but we have not
recovered from all of it.
I know the number you are using to mislead people. 
Medicare breaks even on this. You have been misled by right-wing liars.
The recession was far worse than Obama realized. That is Bush's fault.
Why must you make excuses for the incompetence of the GOP?
Only when it is justified.
Will the GOP continue its tactics of trying to destroy our economy,
particularly the irrational people who were elected in 2010?
All who are looking for work are counted.
Yes, it still is.
Once again, you show us that you are an enemy of the United States."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:29:33 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
I agree that he has not been able to do as well as we need, but Romney
does not offer an alternative that will do anything but plunge us back
into recession.
Republicans did everything they could to keep the deficit high.
The number of undocumented immigrants has decreased.
You will continue to tell that lie as long as you can. 
Nope. I am a fan of reality.
Romney promises us another round of recession. Why would you vote for
that?
No. No. No. Your ignorance is not an argument.
You are wrong. 
That includes discouraged workers who say they are not looking, but
might be looking if the economy were better.
You are an ignorant fool who believes the nonsense of racist,
drug-addled blowhards like Rush Limbaugh."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:55:23 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
The GDP of the US surpassed the peak before Bush's recession about a
year ago. Yes, unemployment needs to get lower, but unemployment is
always a laggard in the economy. 
..."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:21:53 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
What do you propose? "
    @lunch: "On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 04:02:27 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
The GOP is the group that refuses to work. Stop your false equivalence.
Stop making excuses for right-wing fools.
Okay, but most congressmen don't need their paychecks.
Sure.
The down side is that we will have only the very rich in Congress.
Good idea.
As long as you acknowledge that Bush was a major part of the problem,
you are being rational."
    @lunch: "On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 05:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
Why do you support the right then? The problem is that the Democrats are
moderate conservatives and Republicans are very conservative. 
And the Republicans fought it every second. The GOP has never given a
damn about the unemployed.
I think that the government should make certain that everyone has a
reasonably paying job and should be the job creator of last resort. Real
jobs, not nonsense, but guaranteed for maybe $12.50/hour plus benefits.
They do pay taxes. They don't receive refunds.
The Republicans have spent more than three decades demeaning government
and proving that they don't have an desire to make it right. The
Democrats do a better job by default, even if they are far from perfect.
Remember that Germany was part of Greece's problem.
He wasn't.
He was very good at making a point, even if it completely false.
Yes, he misled them, he set the stage to destroy unions. Blue collar
workers have been worse off ever since.
Even though he was lying to them every day.
The GOP proposals have not been good economic ideas, they make the rich
richer at a cost of growth for the whole country."
    @SilentOtto: "On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote:
<quote>
Are you for real, rightard?
Much of what happened on Bush's watch wasn't Bush's fault...
But, everything that's happened on Obama's watch -is- Obama's fault...
You see....
That's why you rightards get called "rightard", rightard.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you."
    @lunch: "On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:47:30 -0700 (PDT), Dino <email_address>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
<quote>
Racist reactionaries."
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