@Gareethnews: "In my Pleasant house whenever a Sim joins another one on the couch or in bed 
they both wind up popping to a standing postion right away. Does anyone know 
what causes that and better yet what to do about it? It is really thwarting 
the younger generations attempts to start procreating and my old guy Daniel 
was hoping for one last woohoo before he dies.
Gareeth "
    @pope: "On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:14:13 -0700, "Gareeth"
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That happened once to a couple of mine, when they both 'relaxed' on
the bed simultaniously. Only fix I could figure was to replace the
bed."
    @Gareethnews: ""Guardian Pegasus" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I tried that. I replaced all the beds and it happened on all the new ones. 
So I moved them out and back in again at a painful loss of aspiration 
rewards but it is happening again:. Also happens with the chessboard now, 
Argh!
Gareeth "
    @pope: "On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:24:16 -0700, "Gareeth"
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Tried restarting the game and restarting your computer? :-\"
    @Gareethnews: ""Guardian Pegasus" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I have restarted the game but I have not restrted the computer. Can't really 
think of a reason why that would help but I might try that. I was hoping 
this was a more common bug than it seems to be.
Gareeth "
    @pope: "On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:47:44 -0700, "Gareeth"
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I guess they'll fix it in the expansio.... eh, I mean patch :-\"
    @cbillingsw: "<email_address> wrote in message 
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Have you managed to find a solution to this problem?
If it's the specific sim, and not the item being used in question, (and it 
isn't, since I've seen that replacing the items affected will not fix this 
bug) is it possible that deleting the sim with the move_objects cheat could 
fix this?  Deleting sims this way is a bit frightening, because the sim's 
icon is removed from the display completely, as if he'd been killed, but if 
you do that and save, the sim in question will show up at the mailbox the 
next time you load the house with needs about 80% refreshed.
I've deleted sims to fix the problem of one guy having what appeared to be a 
jacuzzi spray emanating from the spot where he last changed his clothes, and 
one woman who had electricity in her legs well after working out with the 
thinking cap on.  If it's the sim causing this problem and not the items, 
it's possible that this will fix this problem as well.
C "
    @cbillingsw: "<email_address> wrote in message 
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Regrettably, it does not fix this problem, unless more than one of my sims 
has it, and I don't believe that's the case.
The person who said that it could be related to sims with maxxed skills may 
be right, since the one sim I've having problems with has 3 maxxed skills.
C "
    @Gareethnews: ""Charles Whitney" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Yeah deleting them does not solve it. I thought it might be a max skill 
thing too but I have a Sim that has it that is not maxed on anything. She is 
close to maxed on cooking but that is her only skill set that is anywhere 
near to it. Thankfully she had filled her desire to have her ten kids before 
this thing happened since now she can't woohoo.
Gareeth "
    @nospam: "Was your female by chance pregnant when this started happening?  I've just 
started having the exact same problem.  It's so annoying!  This is my 
favorite family, and I hate the thought of deleting one and have her not 
come back.  Do they always come back if you delete them, or is there a 
chance I'll lose her forever?
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    @Gareethnews: ""MC" <email_address> wrote in message 
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They seem to come back but deleting them doesn't help michael86@example.com.
Gareeth "
    @nospam: ""Giganews" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I don't know, but it's driving me crazy.  My Sims want to have another baby, 
and that's certainly not happening now.  It's my two parent sims that are no 
longer compatible.  The mom can snuggle on the couch with her youngest child 
with no problem.  But no getting near the hubby.  Both have used the Elixir 
as well as the energizer.  I've tried deleting them both, but that didn't 
work for me either.  If anyone out there has any other thoughts, I'd love to 
know.  As I said, this one is frustrating! "
    @cbillingsw: ""MC" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I'm on the verge of deleting all the family's items and replacing them, but 
I don't have very high hopes for that plan.  Fortunately for me, I packaged 
that family prior to this bug showing up.  Granted, they've had two children 
and five birthdays since then, and they'll lose all their relationships, and 
the problem might manifest itself again even if I replace the house, but 
it's a thought.  I'd package all the families you play every now and then 
just in case this bug shows up.
I've posted about the bug on the Maxis BBS, and I'll probably do it again to 
help ensure that someone at Maxis will have seen a posting about it.  I'd 
encourage everyone having this problem to do the same to maximize the chance 
that this bug will be addressed in the first patch.
C "
    @Gareethnews: ""Charles Whitney" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Don't bother deleting items. I have moved several of my sims to the bin and 
refurbished their houses. Even built them new houses from scratch. Whatever 
causes it doesn't seem to reside in the item. I don't know about the elixir 
of life theory. My Sims are not big drinkers of it. One of them that has it 
right now has never had any although his wife has. He is my second Sim to 
have it who isn't maxed on anything either. It is a danred frustrating bug 
though. It crashes my game tonight for the first time too. I was trying to 
make them do woohoo despite the bug. I have found that if you pause the game 
you can sometimes get the woohoo to happen. Since both Sims in this house 
have a gola of 10 kids they need to woohoo at least 5 more times. Tonight 
though when I paused it and then unpaused it I got an error message and the 
thing crashed. So save often I guess.
Gareeth "
    @cbillingsw: ""Gareeth" <email_address> wrote in message 
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If I had to guess what may have been causing it, I'd say it was a high 
number of occasions for the particular sim having his/her actions timed out.
In my situation, it was a woman who had five children, and she never seemed 
to be able to independently (that is, do it without my direction) hold or 
play with her infants and toddlers, even though it was something she wanted 
to do quite frequently.  Often she would go up to the crib and someone would 
already be standing there, often the nanny (since it seems that everyone on 
the lot wants to do something with the infant or toddler moreso unless 
they're on the verge of starving or something), and would just stand there 
until the interaction timed out.  Since I was controlling upwards of six 
sims at one time, I'd frequently miss her standing around, cancelling out 
her action before it would time out.
For every occasion I've read where people have gone into the specifics, it 
always seems to be a sim with a family aspiration and lots of children. 
That's a lot of opportunities for timed out interactions.
C "
    @nospam: ""Charles Whitney" <email_address> wrote in message 
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I've seen the posts now at the BBS, and A LOT of people are now claiming 
this bug.  I hope against hope that Maxis makes it a priority.  In the 
meantime, I'm going to abandon Pleasantview and try to start fresh in 
Veronaville or Strangetown with new families.  I don't want to delete my 
family with the problem, as they are my original clan.  I'll be holding out 
for a patch from Maxis.
This bug reminds me of the frustrating "cuddle" bug we had with Hot Date. 
Anyone remember how long it took them to come out with a fix for that after 
we started complaining?"
    @cbillingsw: "<email_address> wrote in message 
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That's also been a common thread between everyone's experiences, at least 
when they go into detail.  It seems to happen on lots that have seen a lot 
of played days.  In my situation it's been the family I've played the 
longest by a long shot.
It's possible that they have a chance of being corrupted after a while.  But 
I still think timed out actions may have something to do with it, because in 
my case my family's mom has had many more timed out actions than any of my 
other sims, and she's the one who's suffering from it.  Although I fear that 
her child daughter may have the problem as well, and I haven't gone back to 
that house to check.  (Although the child also had plenty of timed out 
actions, but I doubt she's had more than her oldest brother or her father)
C "
    @nospam: "I seem to have found a temporary fix, for my favorite family anyway.  I'm 
trying to get to the "have 10 children" aspiration.  I've since found that 
although my couple can't woohoo at home, they can woohoo in the public 
dressing room at the community lot just fine.  (Kind of ironic, huh?)  She's 
successfully gotten pregnant with number eight.
I've had to get rid of the kitchen table, but keep the chairs.  They can at 
least sit together is my plan.
888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4keeping fingers crossed for a patch sooner rather than later888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4 "
    @Gareethnews: ""MC" <email_address> wrote in message 
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YOu might be able to woohoo the usual way if you time it right. I get them 
relaxing and then presspause and get the woohoo lined up while it is paused. 
It has worked about 8 times now with bugged Sims but one time my game 
crashed instead.
Gareeth "
    @Gareethnews: "<email_address> wrote in message 
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The theory that seeems most plausible to me is that the hiccup type bug 
might be caused by corrupted memories in the Sim possibly by it living too 
long and winding up with too many memries. That makes the most sesen to me 
because the Sims of mine that have it have the most memories. They either 
have lived a long time or come from huge families so they have memories of 
everything their siblings did too. Most plausible reason so far anyway. I am 
hopeful that Maxis will fix this first.
Gareeth "
    @cbillingsw: ""Gareeth" <email_address> wrote in message 
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If it's related to having too many memories, the first thing I'd do with the 
patch if I were Maxis would be to remove the "Child gets an A+" from the 
memory list.  Maybe change it to "Child gets A+ _for the very first time_". 
Hell, just remove that idiotic celebration each and every day that the kid 
comes home from school, as the fourth teenager often won't leave the bus 
until two hours after it arrived.
I have 5 A+ children in the household where this bug is occurring, so five 
times a week, everyone on the lot gets fiive new memories as each of the 
five children bring home their A+ report cards.
Thankfully, Maxis has acknowledged this bug and claims to be working on it.
C "
    @nospam: ""Charles Whitney" <email_address> wrote in message 
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Thankfully, Maxis has acknowledged this bug and claims to be working on it.
Can you point me to the thread or provide the URL?  I'm assuming your 
referring to the michael86@example.com.  I'd like to read the thread and see 
what people are saying, and more importantly, what Maxis has said.   Thanks. "
    @cbillingsw: ""MC" <email_address> wrote in message 
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The thread that I was pointed to when I posted about this bug is here, be 
careful to cut and paste if the link hits a linebreak, which it probably 
will
<url>
My thread is here
<url>
C "
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