@grandall: "I only need to hear or read certain current day Mormons words, such as the 
following persons to know that God won't be sending them to hell for such a 
heart & belief, despite any misplaced ignorance or through being taught 
falsely.
"As we live worthily, our spiritual light will be renewed. Daily righteous 
actions will push back the darkness. Pride, selfishness, evil speaking of 
others, laziness, fault finding, will all drive away the light and
the spirit of the Holy Ghost from our lives. It's easy to wander away from 
the light. We need to bind our hearts to the Lord and be anxiously engaged 
in doing good to keep the light in our lives. When we are in the service of 
our fellowmen we are in the service of the Lord. The light that shines in 
our eyes should be joy. Wickedness never was happiness. But even the 
righteous have trials come into their lives. joy is not the absence of pain, 
but the presence of God."
No its those ANTI's such as Silent Mike that just ooze hate and lies 
consistently that are in deep trouble from Gods wrath through their false 
understanding, not Mormons.
I mainly left the LDS church because I found doctrines I believed to be 
false, I found the Book or Mormon & the Book of Abraham to be fairy tales, 
and I found a seriously questionable history.
However I am still impressed to this day of true Mormons absolute desire to 
live a righteous and good life and sincerely worship and love God and live 
as close as possible to how Gospel dictates according to their 
understanding.
Good intentions may not save one. But id rather be a Mormon than an Anti on 
judgment day.
Mormons got something right along the way.
Greg"
    @grandall: ""Fool Speck" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
Interesting.
I do understand ones length of time and depth of belief, investments, family 
still in, and relationships affected will affect different people to very 
large degrees.
I suppose I was lucky. Single when I went back in as adult and realised my 
mistake reasonably quickly.
Though I did get in deep, it only triggered my wanting to study and get 
really involved and thats what saved me the more I studied the more it 
seemed a farce.  I also got lucky in finding ARM at a time when the debates 
were really good stuff and I didnt get scared away for some strange reasosn. 
Most active Mmormons would take one look and run.
I seem to remeber you being around back then too.
Yes I know what you mean.
I have varied from a TBM to an ANTI  I think im somewhere in the middle now. 
But I still have not found Chritianity depite it all and .
I cant make up my mind. Sometimes I think to myself that if it produces such 
wonderful belivers and good hearted people than all the crap wont matter and 
theyl be saved regardless. Though I doubt I could find any Church that would 
support my wishlist.
Then other times I feel like it warped my chances at finding the truth 
forever. Other times i feel like a christian church wont feel like a 
Christian church without the priesthood.
 > I am trying to heal and progress to an attitude as if I were living
I just want to find something that makes sense
Greg"
    @UH: "<quote>
Yeah, the good ol' days.  We need to get something worthwhile going here 
again.
Do unto others... etc. etc.
and drink good beer.
D1"
    @grandall: ""Unruly Human" <email_address> wrote in message 
news:<email_address>
<quote>
They were the good old days of ARM thats for sure. And it would be great to 
get some of  those intesnse debates going that pulled facts from so far left 
fireld it jared my jaw sometimes.
And I do remember that you Don were one of the main people whos facts rather 
than bullshit helped me see the light of day eventaully. So whilst I have 
the chance to say it.  Thank you.!
And I am sorry for anything insulting I said (which I know I did) and my 
acting like a prick as a TBM when I found the fantasy under threat.
regards
Greg"
    @l1paulson: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
family
very
my
debates
reasosn.
I am quite sure that we can put on our thinking caps (remove dunce cap
first) and come up with some topics that will rival the heyday of arm.
Regards,
Lee, the James
We should display the 10 commandments in U.S. public schools and
public building just as soon as the U.S. Constitution is glued to the
chest of every statue of Jesus across America."
    @UH: "<quote>
OK, I'll start:
The  sea is a dangerous lover.  At the present time a person who is 
upright in heart can travel on it....
D1"
    @l1paulson: "news:<email_address>
<quote>
Oh My GAWSH!  LOL!  That was one of the more erudite conversations.
Regards,
Lee, the James
We should display the 10 commandments in U.S. public schools and
public buildings just as soon as the U.S. Constitution is glued to the
chest of every statue of Jesus across America."
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