Deleted so many after prolonged talks. I will open a new discussion to keep itemizing more pages for deletion.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:46, 7 January 2019 (UTC) Similar to English-Hanzi, should unverified news be deleted? Pinyin/Afghan MP killed in Kabul bomb blast Pinyin/Afghan policeman kills 10 colleagues Pinyin/Afghan Taliban announce new leader Pinyin/Afghanistan blast kills 10 Pinyin/Afghanistan Kabul mosque suicide attack kills dozens Pinyin/Afghanistan opium production up 43% --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:41, 16 June 2018 (UTC) Rather than delete them, I think it should suffice if these news articles are cited from the source which they are taken from. For instance, the last article which you have linked above is exactly the headline of this BBC article. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 04:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC) News sites have no sense of humor regarding copying of their material; it's their livelihood, after all. Wikinews has extremely stiff anti-plagiarism standards (no, not just copyright violation, plagiarism). I recommend against Wikibooks poaching on Wikinews territory, in this regard. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 07:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC) n:Wikinews:Newsworthiness#New_information excludes 8-day old events, so even if verified, Wikinews will not accept them. If we cannot keep them here, maybe Wikipedia has articles to retrofit them, like history of Afghanistan. The same way may apply to deleted unverified news under English-Hanzi.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 18:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC) I'm only responding to the initial question. To Wikibooks the validity of the any news (linked or referenced) is irrelevant if it does not constitute the basis of the book's project and even then the burden is (and should be) reversed to prove that the information is false, before taking action. In any case single page deletions of an active project should always be first discussed on that project's talk page. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 01:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC) Category:Book:Pinyin has even more unverified news.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 17:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC) If something looks like a news article, and is part of a bunch of things that look like news articles, and isn't vetted by the standards of actual news articles, its publication does active harm in, and to, the world. The very fact that Wikibooks is not set up, infrastructurally, to apply these sorts of standards rigorously makes it unsuited to hosting such material. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 22:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC) Keep as to prevent deletion as no one stated opposition. Even on close remember to make a note on the project's talk page and if Jusjih is interested in saving his "verification work", he can probably create a template and tag all the "offending" pages if no one objects or at least place his research/conclusions or opinions on the relevant page's talk. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 21:16, 27 June 2018 (UTC) Delete per discussion above. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 22:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC) Delete A wikibook that purports to teach Pinyin (a romanization of Chinese) should not host unverified news items. While one could claim that these are not supposed to be true sentences, merely example sentences to be used in teaching Pinyin, I would argue that it is in poor taste to use unverified news as example sentences to teach a language. Furthermore, the sentences found in the pages appear to by copyvio, e.g. "An Afghan lawmaker and at least three other people have been killed in a bomb explosion in the capital, Kabul"; to keep these, one would have to argue fair use or de minimis. A similar deletion discussion is in Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 08:36, 22 July 2018 (UTC) Yes my learners are having issues with all the answers and it would be great if it was taken down and replaced with an up to date version if possible.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.207.141 (talk • contribs) Am I supposed to delete my own nominations after long time? There are even more unverified news with other than Hanyu Pinyin: Pinyin/Air attacks kill civilians in Syria Pinyin/Air attacks target Yemen schools Pinyin/Air France flight in bomb scare Pinyin/Air India worker sucked into engine Pinyin/Al Jazeera to cut 500 jobs Pinyin/Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram attack Niger army Pinyin/Al-Shabaab kills 9 in Mogadishu Pinyin/Al-Shabab kills Christians in Kenya Pinyin/Alibaba to buy South China Morning Post Pinyin/All that the soul asks of a confidante is understanding (copyvio?) Pinyin/Americans killed in Jordan Pinyin/Ankara car bomb kills 27 Pinyin/Anti-IS activist gunned down in Turkey Pinyin/Anti-Trump protests sweep US cities Pinyin/Apple apologizes after racism outcry Pinyin/Apple iPhone sales beat estimates Pinyin/Apple loses trademark fight in China Pinyin/April temperature breaks record Pinyin/Archbishop Tutu wants right to die --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC) As no one has comment for weeks, I am deleting them gradually, but more will be found.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 01:35, 25 September 2018 (UTC) I've deleted a bunch of them. The difficulty is that it's tricky to prove copyright violation for some of them, moreover, Special:Nuke does not work as the created were created too early. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:27, 25 September 2018 (UTC) @Leaderboard:: Yes, I see your deleted pages prefixed "Pinyin/". Our main concern is the book pages being out of scope, whether copyvios or not, like these: Pinyin/At least 13 dead in California bus crash (2016-10-23) Pinyin/At least 53 dead in Cameroon derailment (2016-10-21) Pinyin/Argentina sinks Chinese fishing boat Pinyin/Army seizes third of rebel-held Aleppo Pinyin/Asia's investors cheer Fed's move (2015-12-17) Pinyin/Attack in Israel (2015-11-21) Pinyin/Attack on Shia pilgrims in Iraq kills 77 (2016-11-24) Pinyin/Australia bicycle crash (2016-03-21) Pinyin/Avalanche kills 6 in Italian Alps (2016-03-12) --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:39, 30 October 2018 (UTC) @Jusjih: I wouldn't call them out of scope, rather, I actually like the idea of using real-life examples to understand the language. It's the copyvio that's the issue for me, not the concept itself. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 00:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC) Yes. Copying too many news-like titles creates suspicion. These should likely be deleted as well: Pinyin/Abortion rates highest in London Pinyin/B-52 bomber flies over South Korea (2016-01-10) Pinyin/Baghdad car bomb kills dozens (2016-05-11) Pinyin/Ban on children's online junk food ads (2016-12-08) Pinyin/Bank governor says inflation will rise (2016-10-14) Pinyin/Beijing issues first red smog alert (2015-12-07) Pinyin/Beijing issues second smog red alert (2015-12-18) Pinyin/Beijing issues severe smog warning (2015-11-29) Pinyin/Beijing smog keeps students indoors (2015-12-01) Pinyin/Belgians break EU-Canada deal deadlock (2016-10-27) Pinyin/Besieged Yemen city to get aid (2015-12-17) Pinyin/Blasts kill many near Istanbul stadium (2016-12-11) Pinyin/Bodies of 15 migrants found in Sinai (2015-11-15) Pinyin/Body found in Chinese switched-off lift (2016-03-06) Pinyin/Boeing to cut more than 4,500 jobs (2016-03-30) Pinyin/Bomb blast kills police in Turkey (2016-03-31) --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC) @Jusjih: Go ahead. I think this has been discussed for long enough. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 03:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC) The following discussion has concluded. Delete --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 23:47, 2 November 2019 (UTC) Similar to Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi and continuing from Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Pinyin, should more unverified news be deleted? Pinyin/11 bodies found at Cape Verde base Pinyin/43% smoke again after giving birth Pinyin/A child marriage stopped in Pakistan Pinyin/California woman carrying human skull on stick prompts investigation Pinyin/Delhi shuts schools as smog worsens Pinyin/Iran introduces credit cards for first time Pinyin/Olympic torch given to Brazilians Pinyin/Put pedestrians first to tackle air pollution in London --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 01:48, 25 February 2019 (UTC) Yes. We cannot allow spoof in any projects and they are poor learning resources anyway. Delete will be the obvious course of action. I am sure there are more but thanks Jusjih for bringing these out. --Cohaf (discuss • contribs) 15:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC) The following discussion has concluded. The decision was Delete . It may take me some time to delete all these pages, but I will try to get it done soon. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:18, 23 June 2021 (UTC) I've looked through the subpages of this book and while most pages can be fixed by adding pinyin (with actual tone marking) and their equivalent in Mandarin Chinese, pages like Pinyin/Hubble spots evidence of water plumes on Jupiter’s moon Europa & Pinyin/N Korea fires missiles (2016-03-21) seems odd to be included here. In fact, some of these are original research and lacks verifiability. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC) If there is a need to tag all pages for deletion, I'll tag it using AWB but would prefer being under pseudobot throughout the process. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC) See also Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Pinyin. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 16:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC) Delete although I'm not a Chinese speaker, I've looked through a few of these and they look very out-of place for a language guide. Just far too many subpages, and many our dubious phrases anyway, how often would you need to be able to speak "At least 42 people have drowned after a migrant boat capsized off the Egyptian coast, officials say."? --Jules (Mrjulesd) 13:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC) Delete I as a native Chinese speaker deleted many subpages resembling news per earlier discussions while unacceptable on Wikinews as events older than 7 days, even if verifiable events. Listing which to delete will be greatly appreciated.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC) see this. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 05:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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