@fearlessfox (fearlessfox) posted a new topic, subject "Security or Resistance?". It read:

   Let's get some psych 101 going on with all you emerging forum regs!
    
    Which side did you pick? Was it based on the aesthetic or the philosophy or both?  
    What does it say about you?
    
    Did you burn ants with a magnifying glass as a child? Does this and your natural affinity to be a water hoarding bastard expose sadistic totalitarian tendencies?
    
    Did you cry when the rich children laughed at your hand-me-down PE kit? Does this along side your hippy-dippy dreadlock stylee provide evidence of self-righteous tree-humping affections?
    
    Or do you just like to blow **** up, regardless?
    
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    I'm all about wearing a paper bag on my head and throwing grenades at the po-po, so if I can do this in the context of an online shooter I feel very patricia02@example.net.
    
    IE: Resistance for me.
    
    How about y'all?

After which, @Infernisle (Infernisle) added

    I picked resistance.
    
    A) I love the armor made out of tires
    
    B) Security doesn't get beast looking gun camo
    
    C) The po-po in this game suck if they - highly trained officers of the law - can't defeat a bunch of random refugees, which, when I'm playing, is definitely the case

@vexicat (vexicat) replied

    Depends which team is balanced.

So @Gamer2Gamers (Gamer2Gamers) replied

    I really dig the security cause i can make a guy who looks exactly like Mike Haggar from final fight
    
      
    
    
    5892-468x-mike_haggar.jpg468x618

To which @Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) replied

    Security all the way!
    
    They are the good guys really, for the most part.
    
    Resistance are crazy and tried killing everyone.
    
    Mabey i think that because i played the entire security campagin first…
    
    Resistance also dont have as appealing clothing to me as the resistance.

@fearlessfox (fearlessfox) replied

    vexicat;302516:
    
    > Depends which team is balanced.
    
    You have absolute zero sense of fun.

Then @xI_MaTcheS_Ix (xI MaTcheS Ix) said

    Resistance for me
    
    It's way more fun taking down the man! And I firmly believe that self-entitlement and “higher social status” perks are Bullsh!t.

After which, @boozee84 (boozee84) added

    mostly resistance, because they look more badass!

So @PlaidHero (PlaidHero) replied

    Resistance all the way.
    
    It's what I'd do if I were really in that situation. A group of people being extremely oppressed and pushed into essentially martial law with a tyrannical general? Yeah, fight the good fight.
    
    No way would I stand for what the Security is doing. It's totally wrong. I couldn't be happier that the Guests rebelled. And Chen has a good philosophy as well. Only does what's necessary to get what his people need. That's all he wants. And unless you play the “What if?” missions, that's all he does. I can't see why anyone would stand with Security.

To which @fearlessfox (fearlessfox) replied

    [QUOTE=PlaidHero;302620]Resistance all the way.
    
    It's what I'd do if I were really in that situation. A group of people being extremely oppressed and pushed into essentially martial law with a tyrannical general? Yeah, fight the good fight.
    
    No way would I stand for what the Security is doing. It's totally wrong. I couldn't be happier that the Guests rebelled. And Chen has a good philosophy as well. Only does what's necessary to get what his people need. That's all he wants. And unless you play the “What if?” missions, that's all he does. I can't see why anyone would stand with Security.[/QUOTE]
    
    I've not played the campaign yet, but it's not as black and white is it? Surely there's a sympathetic side to the Security's plight?

Then @Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) said

    [QUOTE=PlaidHero;302620]Resistance all the way.
    
    It's what I'd do if I were really in that situation. A group of people being extremely oppressed and pushed into essentially martial law with a tyrannical general? Yeah, fight the good fight.
    
    No way would I stand for what the Security is doing. It's totally wrong. I couldn't be happier that the Guests rebelled. And Chen has a good philosophy as well. Only does what's necessary to get what his people need. That's all he wants. And unless you play the “What if?” missions, that's all he does. I can't see why anyone would stand with Security.[/QUOTE]
    
    Listen to more audio diarys and you will learn. 
    
    But really, both sides are equally right in their own prespectives in a war they don't reall want to fight.

To which @PlaidHero (PlaidHero) replied

    I have not read much into Security campaign or listened to much of the audio logs, but from what I see, the way Security goes about keeping the peace is completely oppressive. The Resistance campaign tells of water rations and Security not giving them proper living conditions despite having more than enough space available. They also say 5% of the population control 90% of the wealth. That isn't right.

After which, @peteXnasty (peteXnasty) added

    After reading the logs, the resistance is delusional and will get everyone killed
    
    Security all the way
    
    Unless the security forces are hiding something big :o

To which @Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) replied

    Yes but apperantly, they try to give the guests what they want, they give them supplies, they open a clinic, the guests raid the clinic, they demand they reopen the clinic, and the guests raid it again.
    
    And the fact that they did make contact with the outside world, but the people there tortured and killed them, forcing the founders to move the Ark in fear they will attack.
    
    But chen is a pretty good guy, (and bad ass), in the what if mission for resistance, in the reactor level, you hear chen was bluffing and it was his more “crazy and radical” members that went ahead and did it.
    
    I still need to get all the audio logs so i know the whole story, but both sides are doing what they feel is right, their leaders may be wrong or evil or w/e but the soldiers themselves are doing it for their rightous cause.
    
    This is what makes Brink have so much potential, which is why i was VERY disapointed that they took out alot of cutscenes and ingame scripted conversations like in the container city gameplay video.

After which, @PlaidHero (PlaidHero) added

    I dunno man, I still stand with the Guests. Do you know how many times forces like Security publicly say they “tired” to help? Usually this attempt is half assed and still comes with so many restrictions it might as well not of happened in the first place. I'm assuming those logs come from the Security side, and going on record chances are they'd change details or leave out important facts to make Resistance look like the bad guys. That's just my point of view. I know the Resistance isn't all good, and the radicals do bad bad things. Like that mission where Chen was angry. But as far as Chen approaches the rest of the missions, well that I completely agree with.

To which @PillowTalk (PillowTalk) replied

    Resistance, because the complete “The Anger” set is the coolest outfit in any game anywhere.

To which @Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) replied

    The audio logs from the founder woman are somewhat neutral but still more on securuty side. Everything they say seems reasonable, but to leave the guests in such a condition is wrong, security cold not prevent this however, so this war was unstopable.
    
    If the guests were alloud to go free or contact the outside world, savage forces would invade the Ark and take their tech, security saving the Ark, in my opinion, is the best option.
    
    Although the founders could share their water and such more and would slove most problems. Their veiw is that they built the ark, they saved it, they draged it out to sea, and its their Ark, and they let the guests in even tho most were criminals or diseased. They could have turned them away but they didn't. Thus they belive they can love in wealth if they want, which is wrong. Even tho it is their ark.

@Ainokeato (Ainokeato) replied

    Resistance, I sympathize with their cause. I whole-heartedly disliked the attitude of the Security during the cut-scenes…

To which @PillowTalk (PillowTalk) replied

    Story wise, I'd have to go with Security. Everyone seems more reasonable, and just wants to diffuse the situation. The Resistance, on the other hand, is led by a charismatic mad-man, and his second in command is like a religious fanatic, especially in the “What If” scenarios.

@Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) replied

    PillowTalk;302695:
    
    > Story wise, I'd have to go with Security. Everyone seems more reasonable, and just wants to diffuse the situation. The Resistance, on the other hand, is led by a charismatic mad-man, and his second in command is like a religious fanatic, especially in the “What If” scenarios.
    
    That is why they are what-if 
    
    “WE WILL HAVE JUSTICE! IN THIS WORLD…OR THE NEXT!”
    
    _blows up the ARK_
    
    Chen: i was bluffing you crazy peice of ****!
    
    Ironiclly the guy who is worried in the beggining and his brother is in the security, turns out to be a madman who will kill everyone.

Then @Cheerio (Cheerio) said

    I like the resistance aesthetic. Its rag tag and awesome. While I prefer the security a little more motive wise. They are just trying to protect everyone because (spoiler: the outside world is awful and they were tortured and killed) so they told them there is not outside and they were keeping people in line and they HAD to resort to violence

To which @PillowTalk (PillowTalk) replied

    [QUOTE=Dr.Ricktofen;302748]That is why they are what-if 
    
    “WE WILL HAVE JUSTICE! IN THIS WORLD…OR THE NEXT!”
    
    _blows up the ARK_
    
    Chen: i was bluffing you crazy peice of ****!
    
    Ironiclly the guy who is worried in the beggining and his brother is in the security, turns out to be a madman who will kill everyone.[/QUOTE]
    
    I just mean they sound MORE radical in the What Ifs. Listen through Chen's audio logs. The man is insane.

Then @Dr.Ricktofen (Dr.Ricktofen) said

    I don't have many resistance orientated audio tapes, gitta play more tommarow.
    
    And some time this week my main ps3 gets repaired! So what i do on Brink actually will matter.

So @AnathemaFox (AnathemaFox) replied

    As a military man… Security all the way.
    
    To me, the Resistance seem to want to take over the Ark for their own self-righteous greed while hiding behind the label of “freedom fighters”.
    
    Choose a side…
    
    S) Secure the Ark and maintain the limited resources so that the population can survive until a new energy source arises…
    
    R) Use up resources that will increase the hardships of the Ark in a selfish attempt to find something that is unlikely to exist…
    
    (plus… I would think finding more people to put on the Ark would stretch the resources even thinner)
    
    My Opinion

Then @fearlessfox (fearlessfox) said

    [QUOTE=AnathemaFox;302781]As a military man… Security all the way.
    
    To me, the Resistance seem to want to take over the Ark for their own self-righteous greed while hiding behind the label of “freedom fighters”.
    
    Choose a side…
    
    S) Secure the Ark and maintain the limited resources so that the population can survive until a new energy source arises…
    
    R) Use up resources that will increase the hardships of the Ark in a selfish attempt to find something that is unlikely to exist…
    
    (plus… I would think finding more people to put on the Ark would stretch the resources even thinner)
    
    My Opinion[/QUOTE]
    
    Ahh, a fellow fox!
    
    I'd just like to say I have great respect for your service. I wanted to enlist, but suffer from an IBD that disqualifies me. What was your position and where did you serve? (Pm me if you'd rather).
    
    On topic… I'm getting more and more sympathetic toward the Security forces. I knew they'd have decent reason (the game wouldn't work if it were black and white) but hearing them helps hit home.
    
    We'll see, I'm currently waiting impatiently for my mail to arrive with my pre-order. Loooong morning.

To which @Norb (Norb) replied

    Resistance all the way

After which, @fearlessfox (fearlessfox) added

    What about the rest of you? :v

So @TheBigLebowski (TheBigLebowski) replied

    I am an anarchist, hate government and security apes. So resistance all the way.

So @AnathemaFox (AnathemaFox) replied

    [QUOTE=fearlessfox;302991]Ahh, a fellow fox!
    
    I'd just like to say I have great respect for your service. I wanted to enlist, but suffer from an IBD that disqualifies me. What was your position and where did you serve? (Pm me if you'd rather).[/QUOTE]
    
    I was an Apache Gunship Weapons Tech… and i was stranded in KS for most of my career lol. Been to Iraq twice though.
    
    Anyway, I couldnt help but notice that most people wave off the ‘What-ifs' but if you compare them, they turn out to be pretty one sided. Security never do anything like “The resistance is hiding in CCity so we need to go in there and purge the place to put it down once and for all” or anything like that… Its always “Stop them from blowing up reactor… rescue pilot and recover downed helo… defend the sec tower… etc”
    
    The resistance however, have missions that use a missile to kill noncombatants in the founders tower (very 9-11ish imho) and they also attempt to take out the Ark reactor and kill EVERYONE, even their own back at the CCity.
    
    I understand that SD wanted to make both sides even on their virtues and evils… but my goodness, its very one sided actually
    
    Eh… But I prefer order over chaos… I have seen anarchy in front of me and trust me… it may sound cool… but once it happens, youll be in a corner crying.

After which, @Stimson (Stimson) added

    Security, i love ‘The Shield' outfit, except the helmet, that looks a bit funny, but to be honest, id let the resistance leave, what would they say if they got to land and tortured?
    
    “Where is the Ark?!”  
    “In the ocean”  
    “Where in the ocean?!?”  
    _points_ “Thatway”  
    “C'mon guys! TO THE OCEAN! ITS NOT LIKE ITS HUGE! WE CAN FIND THE ARK!”


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