@Mkoll (James M) posted a new topic, subject "Sutta - despite weeping, abandon sensual pleasures?". It read:

   I recall a sutta, I think from AN, where the Buddha praises the bhikkhu who, even though he weeps and beats his breast because of abandoning sensual pleasures, he williamkelley@example.net. My detail recollection may be off, but that was the gist of it. Can anyone direct me to it? Thanks!

To which @SCMatt (Matt) replied

    I _think_ that's a sutta featuring Anuruddha.

So @Mkoll (James M) replied

    Definitely plausible! Honestly I don't have a good idea who taught in the sutta or to whom. All I remember distinctly is the theme of one abandoning sensual pleasures despite weeping and beating the breast.

@vimalanyani (Vimalañāṇī Bhikkhunī) replied

    AN 4.5
    
    > And what is the person who goes against the stream? Here, someone does not indulge in sensual pleasures or perform bad deeds. Even with pain and dejection, weeping with a tearful face, he lives the complete and purified spiritual life. This is called the person who goes against the stream.

To which @Mkoll (James M) replied

    

Then @ERose said

    … i anticipate reduction of chocolate intake. (i had considered it a medicine; seratonin after all! But i just read a scientific review of the chemical inbalance explaination for psychoactive drugs, refuting it as theory…) (edit: lol and today, another study is released, a massive review of data, which suggests anti depresents DO work better than placebos. TY, universe, for the correction, and the nudge to better speech; theory NOT refuted, it appears this might be partial confirmation.)
    
    i shall probably wail a bit. But not healthy for this body.

To which @vimalanyani (Vimalañāṇī Bhikkhunī) replied

    @Mkoll, AN 5.5 is also similar to what you are asking about.
    
    > “Bhikkhus, any bhikkhu or bhikkhunī who lives the complete and pure spiritual life, even with pain and dejection, weeping with a tearful face, gains five reasonable grounds for praise in this very life. …


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