@jaberus-legacy (jaberus) posted a new topic, subject "Raidable House but its a bitch to raid". It read:

   Alright, so i made a picture for you all about the house i have designed.  
    As we all know atm, ramps are able to be stacked.  
    So they are secondary walls.  
    I currently have this exact house and never have i got raided.
    
    You can do this with metal or wood. Recommend Wood.  
    14 C4 to break all the doors.  
    30 minutes to an hour of pickaxing the ramps or 40 c4 to break 1 ramp stack.  
    you can add more ramps if you'd like.
    
    100 ramps stacked, go ahead.  
    So lets see that 200 C4, or a days work for pick axing.
    
    Don't complain about my awesome skills in MS paint.

So @zrtec1-legacy (zrtec1) replied

    I need some screenies to understand your design dude.

After which, @jaberus-legacy (jaberus) added

    zrtec1:
    
    > I need some screenies to understand your design dude.
    
    I'm currently at college, when i get home I'll take some screenies!

Then @RedWorker-legacy (RedWorker) said

    The only problem with this design is that its very easy to grief. Anyone can blow the front door and replace it with theirs.

Then @Dark_Cupid-legacy (Dark Cupid) said

    I've tried this method as well, works pretty well just not terribly pretty. I've taken to 3x3 stilt bases with 9+ metal doors per level, building them as high as possible.

@jaberus-legacy (jaberus) replied

    RedWorker:
    
    > The only problem with this design is that its very easy to grief. Anyone can blow the front door and replace it with theirs.
    
    you can do that with any house though. That's why i play on Anti-Grief servers. Where admins are strict about griefing.

To which @Fieras-legacy (Fieras) replied

    House is easy to grief. Do NOT recommend wood.
    
    Raiders WILL sit there and chop every ramp. Do this with metal.

So @Kryptyx-legacy (Kryptyx) replied

    Fieras:
    
    > House is easy to grief. Do NOT recommend wood.
    > 
    > Raiders WILL sit there and chop every ramp. Do this with metal.
    
    Wood ramps and metal ramps have the same health. Both take 84 pickaxe hits to break.

To which @jaberus-legacy (jaberus) replied

    heres the video,  
    sorry for the quality. i have a shit computer.  
    and it didn't record my voice. sadly  
    its a 2x1 house in the demo.  
    you put foundation all around except for where your front door is.  
    on those foundations you can stack as many ramps as you want.  
    i recommend 50 ramps

@Autisti-legacy (Autisti) replied

    Just blow the doors?

Then @jaberus-legacy (jaberus) said

    Autisti:
    
    > Just blow the doors?
    
    Yes but, you can make it a 1x20 if you'd like. this would make it what 40 c4 till they get to your stash  
    the 1x2 was an example. I would never make mine that small.

To which @A.James-legacy (A. James) replied

    I'm sure it's not intended to have ramps stackable inside of eachother so I'm assuming it's just a matter of time until it gets patched. The tall tower, 1x3 with planks all around is a great design

After which, @michaelrule4-legacy (michaelrule4) added

    jaberus:
    
    > Alright, so i made a picture for you all about the house i have designed.  
    >  As we all know atm, ramps are able to be stacked.  
    >  So they are secondary walls.  
    >  I currently have this exact house and never have i got raided.
    > 
    > http://i.imgur.com/DvWWIe4.png
    > 
    > You can do this with metal or wood. Recommend Wood.  
    >  14 C4 to break all the doors.  
    >  30 minutes to an hour of pickaxing the ramps or 40 c4 to break 1 ramp stack.  
    >  you can add more ramps if you'd like.
    > 
    > 100 ramps stacked, go ahead.  
    >  So lets see that 200 C4, or a days work for pick axing.
    > 
    > Don't complain about my awesome skills in MS paint.
    
    This is obviously an exploit, it should be patched and dealt with. Don't expect to be relying on this in the future.

To which @Lipak-legacy (Lipak) replied

    I need 8C4 to go into this crap, just blow 4 doors or 5, that means 10C4 for both of the loot room.
    
    You need to build something like this but longer than the paint shit. You see?

Then @WhiteRabbit87-legacy (WhiteRabbit87) said

    Pretty cool! Thanks for sharing it with us, but I agree with the others that it won't be around much longer.

@_EG_Lion-legacy ({EG}Lion) replied

    This house would work much better if it was 3 spaces high rather then 1. A suicide “door” could be implemented into the design causing the players to be FORCED to break the ramps with c4 or a pickax. Of course this means the ramps would have to be carried out 2 foundations away from the main structure so that players cannot just build a staircase and then jump on top of the base. (Currently this house actually only takes from 2-4 c4 to break into.) For you guys that are newer and do not know what a suicide “door” is, its when the player leaves a hole in the wall for the purpose of being able to throw bags of goodies through the hole. After they have thrown their whole inventory through the hole they proceed to hit F1 and type in the suicide command (suicide) and spawn INSIDE the base and pick up everything they have just thrown through the window. The problem with the suicide"door" is that you MUST make sure that players cannot build or somehow get in through the window. A even safer approach would be to make a few more stories above the suicide “door” to then force the raiders to use c4 to blow down a couple of metal doors and prevent creative noobs with a good idea that have no resources from raiding your base.

To which @jaberus-legacy (jaberus) replied

    michaelrule4:
    
    > This is obviously an exploit, it should be patched and dealt with. Don't expect to be relying on this in the future.
    
    There are so many exploits that you can do with raiding a house.  
    put barricades on pillars.
    
    This house is may be an exploit but it will help people defend themselves from other exploiters.

After which, @herrBiermann-legacy (herrBiermann) added

    jaberus:
    
    > Alright, so i made a picture for you all about the house i have designed.  
    >  As we all know atm, ramps are able to be stacked.  
    >  So they are secondary walls.  
    >  I currently have this exact house and never have i got raided.
    > 
    > http://i.imgur.com/DvWWIe4.png
    > 
    > You can do this with metal or wood. Recommend Wood.  
    >  14 C4 to break all the doors.  
    >  30 minutes to an hour of pickaxing the ramps or 40 c4 to break 1 ramp stack.  
    >  you can add more ramps if you'd like.
    > 
    > 100 ramps stacked, go ahead.  
    >  So lets see that 200 C4, or a days work for pick axing.
    > 
    > Don't complain about my awesome skills in MS paint.
    
    Why would I blow the doors when I could blow the ramps and blow the wall out with less C4?

Then @_EG_Lion-legacy ({EG}Lion) said

    You can't blow the ramps out with less c4, you clearly did not read.


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