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What is the status on AltRMI?

Anyone still working on it?


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Niclas,

Yes it is still going.  Many people have asked for a 1.0 release, whci I 
think must be overdue now.

- PAul

>What is the status on AltRMI?
>
>Anyone still working on it?
>
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>Niclas
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Paul,

Is there something that can be done to help out AltRMI?  Should it move into
Jakarta Commons, assuming that they would vote to accept it as part of their
community?  What is the project STATUS and intended direction?

	--- Noel

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Niclas,

Yes it is still going.  Many people have asked for a 1.0 release, whci I
think must be overdue now.

- PAul

>What is the status on AltRMI?
>
>Anyone still working on it?
>
>
>Niclas
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Quoting Paul Hammant <jasmine05@example.org>:

> Niclas,
> 
> Yes it is still going.  Many people have asked for a 1.0 release, whci I 
> think must be overdue now.
> 
> - PAul

That would be awesome!  :-)

Couple of questions:
  - is JIRA up to date?  Is this all that needs to be done?
  - what about incubator graduation?  And to where?

I can't promise to help on much, but I could work on documentation and the site.

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  jaaron      <http://jadetower.org>

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J Aaron,

>>Niclas,
>>
>>Yes it is still going.  Many people have asked for a 1.0 release, whci I 
>>think must be overdue now.
>>
>>- PAul
>>    
>>
>
>That would be awesome!  :-)
>
>Couple of questions:
>  - is JIRA up to date?  Is this all that needs to be done?
>  
>
No it is not really.

>  - what about incubator graduation?  And to where?
>
>I can't promise to help on much, but I could work on documentation and the site.
>  
>
Well it is too early to talk about graduation.  I've been sidetracked on 
PicoContainer at Codehaus as you know, but can make time for AltRMI 
again now.

Vinay and I moved it to Maven some months ago, and dropped some of  the 
obscure transports. We also lost some of the tests (whic were working 
fine). We need to be diligent and examine all of the old /src dir to see 
what has been moved to the broken out maven projects and what has not.

 From that set of classes, some may go forever, some should move to 
(say) sourceforge as they truly are obscure, and some (the tests 
particularly) should  go to  appropriate places.

Now, the old (Ant) design used to run a lot of integration tests (well 
AltRMI is client/server). We need to shift more to unit tests. 
Integration is far harder now, in that there are separate jars. It may 
be best to have am /integration maven project that runs the tests in 
question and ships no jar to maven repositories. 

There is an issues where the callback logic needs an overhaul (it is 
cumbersome to generate stubs/proxies for them), but that could be left 
to AltRMI 2.x

Lastly, we have a dozen more ways to generate the proxies now. AST 
springs to mind. 

Clearly, remounting the integration tests is the most important thing.

Thoughts?

Regards,

- Paul

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> Clearly, remounting the integration tests is the most important thing.

My mistake, the tests are already there.

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On Tuesday 16 March 2004 07:47, Paul Hammant wrote:
> Vinay and I moved it to Maven some months ago, and dropped some of  the
> obscure transports. We also lost some of the tests (whic were working
> fine). We need to be diligent and examine all of the old /src dir to see
> what has been moved to the broken out maven projects and what has not.

Reason for me asking is;

We are breaking Excalibur parts into API/Impl and AltRMI had a dependency 
declared in its Gump descriptor on excalibur-pool, with setting a property, 
which I couldn't be entirely compatible with.

If there is a need for the property, then you need to update the build script. 
In the meantime, I dropped the property from the AltRMI Gump descriptor, and 
not sure about the consequences.

The best is to update to use excalibur-pool-api and excalibur-pool-impl 
projects accordingly.

Cheers
Niclas

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Paul, my SMTP host doesn't resolve, so your mail server rejects it, so I send 
here...

On Tuesday 16 March 2004 15:54, you wrote:
> Sorry dude, I am being dense with what you mean by property.

Have an expression for that "Too Dump for Gump", which I feel myself all the 
time... :o)


> I have to change something inside the maven project .xml scripts for
> AltRMI?

        <ant target="jars">
            <depend property="excalibur.jar" project="excalibur-pool"/>
            <property name="version" value="@@DATE@@"/>
            <property name="junit.failonerror" value="true"/>
            <property name="do.checkstyle" value="true"/>
            <property name="skip.dependencies" value="true"/>
        </ant>

You had this in gump/project/incubator-altrmi.xml and when I changed the 
excalibur-pool descriptor, because excalibur-pool har been broken into an 
"api" and an "impl" Jar, Gump can not resolve to which one of those to assign 
to the property value.

SO, just to get around it for the time being I modified it to;
        <ant target="jars">
            <property name="version" value="@@DATE@@"/>
            <property name="junit.failonerror" value="true"/>
            <property name="do.checkstyle" value="true"/>
            <property name="skip.dependencies" value="true"/>
        </ant>
        <depend project="excalibur-pool"/>

which means that both the Jars are included in the build, but no property is 
assign for Ant property. Bodewig suggest that you MAY use the property to 
copy the Jars around, in which case your build script needs to be modified to 
deal with the excalibur-pool-api.jar and excalibur-pool.impl.jar explicitly.

If you are using Maven now, I think you don't need to do anything.


Cheers
Niclas
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To whom it may engage...
        
This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For help 
understanding the request please visit 
http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, 
and/or contact jasmine05@example.org.

Project incubator-altrmi has an issue affecting its community integration. The current state is 'Failed', for reason 'Configuration Failed'

Full details are available at: http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/gump/incubator-altrmi/incubator-altrmi.html, however some snippets follow:

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 - Error - Failed with reason configuration failed
 - Error - Bad Dependency. Project: avalon-framework unknown to *this* workspace


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Hello.  I'm a committer on the xml-beans project.  As part of my work 
there, I've written an API called 'JAM' (Java API for Metadata) that is 
becoming a useful technology in its own right.  JAM is distinct from 
xml-beans - it is used by xbean's java-to-schema compilers, but JAM does 
not use jasmine05@example.org.

I built JAM to solve a particular set of problems that I have relating to 
metadata and JSR175, and I believe that many other java developers are 
going to need a solution to those same problems very soon.  I already have 
some consumers of the API who don't care about xbeans - they only want the 
services that JAM provides.

Accordingly, I am trying to give it some more visibility.  One thing I 
would like to do is give it a better package name; it currently is

   org.apache.xmlbean.impl.jam

Ideally, I would like it to be

   org.apache.jam

but I'm not sure what Apache's policies are on using top-level package 
names - I figured I'd better talk to someone about it first.  I bounced the 
idea off of the xmlbeans-dev list last week, and everyone there seems ok 
with it (email appended).

Ultimately, I really think JAM should be a separate project.  I'd love for 
it to be an Apache project if possible, though I'm not sure what I should 
do to start that process.

If you want to read more about JAM, I've temporarily posted the docs and 
some white papers here:

   http://www.pcal.net/jam


Thanks,
-p



Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:22:08 -0800
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>From: Patrick Calahan <jasmine05@example.org>
>Subject: moving JAM to org.apache.jam
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>Hey all.  I am exploring the possibility of moving JAM into it's own 
>package space, e.g. 'org.apache.jam.'  I'd like to bring it up out of the 
>bowels of the xbeans impl because it is proving to be a useful technology 
>to other projects.  For example,  Cedric Beust already has two open source 
>projects which he has converted to JAM, including the widely-used EJBgen:
>
>   http://www.beust.com/ejbgen
>   http://www.beust.com/sgen
>
>It's a little awkward to ask people to keep importing 
>'org.apache.xmlbean.impl.jam' for something that (from their perspective) 
>doesn't have anything to do with xbeans.
>
>I'm assuming that the powers-that-be at Apache can't have people just 
>claiming package names at will, so I am going to bring this up with the 
>incubator group (or whomever is appropriate).  Before I do, though, I just 
>wanted to ping everyone here to make sure they think this seems ok.
>
>Thanks,
>-p
>
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