From generalaustinkramer@example.org Sat Feb 01 10:26:40 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 41592 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 10:26:40 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 10:26:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 25344 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2003 10:28:20 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 25337 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 10:28:20 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 10:28:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 41033 invoked by uid 500); 1 Feb 2003 10:26:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 41021 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 10:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO navint.cmcltd.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 10:26:32 -0000 Received: (from visic11 [83.161.120.155]) by navint.cmcltd.com (NAVGW 83.161.120.155) with SMTP id M2003020115544302236 for <austinkramer@example.org>; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 15:54:51 +0530 From: "Seshusri" <austinkramer@example.org> To: <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Comparision Report Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:57:11 +0530 Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi, In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with Turbine as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of MVC pattern. I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision report? Request ur help in this. -Seshu Sri --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Sat Feb 01 21:07:18 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 70064 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 21:07:18 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 21:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 5421 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2003 21:08:50 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 5414 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 21:08:50 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 21:08:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 69524 invoked by uid 500); 1 Feb 2003 21:07:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 43590 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:11:24 -0000 Message-ID: <00dc01c2ca15$d27f0960$8ee5e818@janina> From: "Janina Rubacha" <austinkramer@example.org> To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> References: <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: Comparision Report Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:17:38 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi, Both models use true MVC patterns. if you need to pick one of them you should consider what you want it for. For information in comparison you could search in the turbine mailing list archives http://austinkramer@example.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seshusri" <austinkramer@example.org> To: <austinkramer@example.org> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:27 AM Subject: Comparision Report > Hi, > > In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with Turbine > as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of > MVC pattern. > > I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision report? > > Request ur help in this. > > -Seshu Sri > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Sat Feb 01 23:12:57 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 61438 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 23:12:57 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 23:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 7308 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2003 23:14:30 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 7301 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 23:14:30 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 23:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 60872 invoked by uid 500); 1 Feb 2003 23:12:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 60861 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 23:12:51 -0000 Received: from takahe.whichever.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 23:12:51 -0000 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (unknown [83.161.120.155]) by takahe.whichever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D8673D19A for <austinkramer@example.org>; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:12:37 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/83.161.120.1558 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 15:12:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Comparision Report From: Jon Scott Stevens <austinkramer@example.org> To: "austinkramer@example.org" <austinkramer@example.org> Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> In-Reply-To: <00dc01c2ca15$d27f0960$8ee5e818@janina> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N on 2003/2/1 9:17 AM, "Janina Rubacha" <austinkramer@example.org> wrote: > Both models use true MVC patterns. Honestly, I don't see how Struts is 'true MVC'. There are so many places where the MVC contract is broken in Struts, it is silly. -jon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Sun Feb 02 21:07:05 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 43297 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 21:07:05 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 21:07:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25676 invoked by uid 97); 2 Feb 2003 21:08:37 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 25669 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 21:08:37 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 21:08:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 42595 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2003 21:06:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 42583 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 21:06:58 -0000 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.be (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 21:06:58 -0000 Received: from outerthought.org (stat88-5.adsl.xs4all.be [83.161.120.155]) by smtp1.xs4all.be (8.12.7/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h12L71nq017859 for <austinkramer@example.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:07:02 +0100 Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:32:47 +0100 From: Marc Portier <austinkramer@example.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, nl-be MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakarta General List <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: Comparision Report References: <austinkramer@example.org> In-Reply-To: <austinkramer@example.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N None of them are the best, except if you can redefine the problem to the solution. None of them are MVC, except if you can redefine the meaning of the pattern. (http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/2002/12/11.html#a20) -marc= Seshusri wrote: > Hi, > > In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with Turbine > as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of > MVC pattern. > > I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision report? > > Request ur help in this. > > -Seshu Sri > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org -- Marc Portier http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/ austinkramer@example.org austinkramer@example.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Sun Feb 02 23:59:32 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 71850 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 23:59:32 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 23:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28349 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 00:01:05 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 28342 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:01:05 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:01:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 71308 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2003 23:59:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 71164 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 23:59:24 -0000 Received: from ny2.fastmail.fm (HELO server2.fastmail.fm) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 23:59:24 -0000 Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC1627024 for <austinkramer@example.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from 83.161.120.155 ([83.161.120.155] helo=server2.fastmail.fm) by fastmail.fm with SMTP; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:59:28 -0500 Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id 94A894422A; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:59:28 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIM888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4Lite 1.2 (F2.71; T1.001; A1.51; B2.12; Q2.03) From: "Rob Oxspring" <austinkramer@example.org> To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 23:59:28 +0000 X-Epoch: 1044230368 X-Sasl-enc: wytGYVRiG+I3yRfNl8f5dA Subject: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 Message-Id: <austinkramer@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jakarta Newsletter ================== Issue: 7 Date: January 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html TODO Contents -------- General Lucene General ======= " Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project " Editor: Rob Oxspring Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of the lists. The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for further detail [8]. Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the websites. [1] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=305266 [2] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=309508 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ [4] - http://www.gmane.org/ [5] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308677 [6] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308715 [7] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308716 [8] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=314971 [9] - http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=315699 [10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ Lucene ====== " A high-performance, full-featured text search engine " Editor: Otis Gospodnetic This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release. a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes from multiple threads. b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667. c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like "(+foo +bar)^2 +baz" is now supported and equivalent to "(+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz". d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now implemented using this method. e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text, with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with every hit. f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at least now it is possible. g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery, PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and clauses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 00:11:43 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 77356 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:11:43 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28432 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 00:13:17 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 28425 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:13:16 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:13:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 76792 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 00:11:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 76770 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:11:37 -0000 Received: from ny2.fastmail.fm (HELO server2.fastmail.fm) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:11:37 -0000 Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5F4445BD; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from 83.161.120.155 ([83.161.120.155] helo=server2.fastmail.fm) by fastmail.fm with SMTP; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:11:41 -0500 Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id C432E46B28; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:11:41 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIM888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4Lite 1.2 (F2.71; T1.001; A1.51; B2.12; Q2.03) From: "Rob Oxspring" <austinkramer@example.org> To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:11:41 +0000 X-Epoch: 1044231101 X-Sasl-enc: 0Sb/PHXLdbyb6mpmWgh+7Q Cc: "Glen Stampoultzis" <austinkramer@example.org>, "Martin van den Bemt" <austinkramer@example.org>, "Danny Angus" <austinkramer@example.org>, "Henri Yandell" <austinkramer@example.org>, "robert burrell donkin" <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 References: <austinkramer@example.org> In-Reply-To: <austinkramer@example.org> Message-Id: <austinkramer@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Okay people time to add your stuff. As per usual I've CCd the previous contributers in the hope that they'll either contribute again or talk someone on their projects into taking over. If you want to write up the months gossip for a project then send it to me and I'll include it, its probably best to let the appropriate dev list know so that duplicated work can be avoided. I'm going to be offline for the next week so won't be able to respond to questions or conrtibutions but I'm sure people on the general list will be able to resolve any issues. I'll aim to collate all the input on the afternoon of the 9th and post another draft then. Thanks in advance, Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 00:24:27 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 84786 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:24:27 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28619 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 00:26:01 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 28612 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:26:01 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:26:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 84184 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 00:24:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 84173 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:24:21 -0000 Received: from tomts15.bellnexxia.net (HELO tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:24:21 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([83.161.120.155]) by tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <austinkramer@example.org> for <austinkramer@example.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:24:27 -0500 From: Jeffrey Dever <austinkramer@example.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakarta General List <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 References: <austinkramer@example.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Commons HttpClient Release 2.0 Alpha 2! After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of /HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of February Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ Rob Oxspring wrote: >Jakarta Newsletter >================== > >Issue: 7 >Date: January 2003 >Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html > >TODO > >Contents >-------- > >General >Lucene > > > >General >======= >" Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project " >Editor: Rob Oxspring > >Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make >it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The >Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed >out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of >the lists. > >The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the >Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, >Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote >specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. > >Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for >future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was >guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was >also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be >limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for >further detail [8]. > >Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and >feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to >give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and >could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the >websites. > >[1] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=305266 >[2] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=309508 >[3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ >[4] - http://www.gmane.org/ >[5] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308677 >[6] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308715 >[7] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308716 >[8] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=314971 >[9] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=315699 >[10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ > > > >Lucene >====== >" A high-performance, full-featured text search engine " >Editor: Otis Gospodnetic > >This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In >addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for >packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release. > >a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it >possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes >from multiple threads. > >b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now >work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667. > >c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query >parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like "(+foo >+bar)^2 +baz" is now supported and equivalent to "(+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz". > >d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to >re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the >term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now >implemented using this method. > >e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an >Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored >against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text, >with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note >that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over >the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity >implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with >every hit. > >f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible >for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the >org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced >programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at >least now it is possible. > >g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery, >PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and >clauses. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org >For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 00:36:52 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 95045 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:36:52 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:36:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28770 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 00:38:26 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 28763 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:38:26 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:38:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 94497 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 00:36:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 94472 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 00:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.multitask.com.au) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 00:36:45 -0000 In-Reply-To: <austinkramer@example.org> To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0 September 26, 2002 Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> From: austinkramer@example.org Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:37:18 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gateway/Multitask Consulting/AU(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 02/03/2003 11:37:20 AM, Serialize complete at 02/03/2003 11:37:20 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Rob, do you want updates emailed to you, posted to the list, entered in the wiki?? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Jeffrey Dever <austinkramer@example.org> wrote on 03/02/2003 11:24:27 AM: > Commons HttpClient > > Release 2.0 Alpha 2! > After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of > /HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done > extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code > base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that > another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of > February > > Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff > Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 07:57:47 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 82208 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 07:57:46 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 07:57:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3145 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 07:59:25 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 3138 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 07:59:25 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 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charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring <austinkramer@example.org> wrote: > General Several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC, they are [1] Nicola Ken Barozzi Robert Burrel Donkin Stephen Colebourne Martin Cooper Henri Gomez John Keyes Larry Isaacs Otis Gospodnetic Thomas Mahler Remy Maucherat Glenn Nielsen Andrew C Oliver Rob Oxspring Martin Poeschl Scott Sanders David Sean Taylor Glen Stampoultzis Mladen Turk James Turner Henri Yandell Footnotes: [1] http://austinkramer@example.org&msgNo=14080 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 19:34:20 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 26968 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:34:20 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 25 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 19:35:51 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 18 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:35:51 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:35:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 24670 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 19:33:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 24615 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO appserv1.transolutions.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:33:50 -0000 Received: from tobrien ([83.161.120.155]) by appserv1.transolutions.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 35-65231U200L100S0V35) with ESMTP id net for <austinkramer@example.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:31:35 -0600 From: austinkramer@example.org (O'brien, Tim) To: "'Jakarta General List'" <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:32:48 -0600 Message-ID: <002101c2cbbb$090af0b0$7629f80c@tobrien> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <austinkramer@example.org> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Here's some content: > Commons Sandbox - Codec out of hiberna -------- Tim O'Brien > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:austinkramer@example.org] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 AM > To: austinkramer@example.org > Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 > > > On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring <austinkramer@example.org> wrote: > > > General > > Several people have been elected as new members of the > Jakarta PMC, they are [1] > > Nicola Ken Barozzi > Robert Burrel Donkin > Stephen Colebourne > Martin Cooper > Henri Gomez > John Keyes > Larry Isaacs > Otis Gospodnetic > Thomas Mahler > Remy Maucherat > Glenn Nielsen > Andrew C Oliver > Rob Oxspring > Martin Poeschl > Scott Sanders > David Sean Taylor > Glen Stampoultzis > Mladen Turk > James Turner > Henri Yandell > > Footnotes: > [1] > http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@ jakarta.apache.org&msgNo=14080 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 19:41:51 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 44628 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:41:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 374 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 19:43:22 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 367 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:43:21 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:43:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 44067 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 19:41:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 44054 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO appserv1.transolutions.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:41:42 -0000 Received: from tobrien ([83.161.120.155]) by appserv1.transolutions.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 35-65231U200L100S0V35) with ESMTP id net for <austinkramer@example.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:39:27 -0600 From: austinkramer@example.org (O'brien, Tim) To: "'Jakarta General List'" <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:40:40 -0600 Message-ID: <002301c2cbbc$2247b490$7629f80c@tobrien> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ooops, that damn send button. Here's some short content, maybe it can go in a "notices" section: "codec is alive again, and moving towards a release. codec's short-term goals include: moving towards definitive implementations of common = encodings such as Base64 and Hex, and developing a cohesive framework for = expansion." -------- Tim O'Brien=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:austinkramer@example.org]=20 > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM > To: 'Jakarta General List' > Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 >=20 >=20 > Here's some content: >=20 > > Commons Sandbox - Codec out of hiberna >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- > Tim O'Brien=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:austinkramer@example.org] > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 AM > > To: austinkramer@example.org > > Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring <austinkramer@example.org> wrote: > >=20 > > > General > >=20 > > Several people have been elected as new members of the > > Jakarta PMC, they are [1] > >=20 > > Nicola Ken Barozzi > > Robert Burrel Donkin > > Stephen Colebourne > > Martin Cooper > > Henri Gomez > > John Keyes > > Larry Isaacs > > Otis Gospodnetic > > Thomas Mahler > > Remy Maucherat > > Glenn Nielsen > > Andrew C Oliver > > Rob Oxspring > > Martin Poeschl > > Scott Sanders > > David Sean Taylor > > Glen Stampoultzis > > Mladen Turk > > James Turner > > Henri Yandell > >=20 > > Footnotes: > > [1] =20 > > http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=3Dgeneral@ > jakarta.apache.org&msgNo=3D14080 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org >=20 >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 19:44:53 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 51560 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:44:52 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:44:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 628 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 19:46:23 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 621 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:46:23 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:46:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 50699 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 19:44:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 50650 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 19:44:39 -0000 Received: from umbongo.flamefew.net (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 19:44:39 -0000 Received: by umbongo.flamefew.net (Postfix on Linux (i386), from userid 500) id 02D233A2482; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by umbongo.flamefew.net (Postfix on Linux (i386)) with ESMTP id 01ADB296D7A for <austinkramer@example.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:44:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:44:41 -0500 (EST) From: Henri Yandell <austinkramer@example.org> X-X-Sender: <austinkramer@example.org> To: Jakarta General List <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 In-Reply-To: <002301c2cbbc$2247b490$7629f80c@tobrien> Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jakarta Commons Codec :) On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, O'brien, Tim wrote: > Ooops, that damn send button. > > Here's some short content, maybe it can go in a "notices" section: > > "codec is alive again, and moving towards a release. codec's short-term > goals include: moving towards definitive implementations of common encodings > such as Base64 and Hex, and developing a cohesive framework for expansion." > > > -------- > Tim O'Brien > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:austinkramer@example.org] > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM > > To: 'Jakarta General List' > > Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 > > > > > > Here's some content: > > > > > Commons Sandbox - Codec out of hiberna > > > > > > > > -------- > > Tim O'Brien > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:austinkramer@example.org] > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 AM > > > To: austinkramer@example.org > > > Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring <austinkramer@example.org> wrote: > > > > > > > General > > > > > > Several people have been elected as new members of the > > > Jakarta PMC, they are [1] > > > > > > Nicola Ken Barozzi > > > Robert Burrel Donkin > > > Stephen Colebourne > > > Martin Cooper > > > Henri Gomez > > > John Keyes > > > Larry Isaacs > > > Otis Gospodnetic > > > Thomas Mahler > > > Remy Maucherat > > > Glenn Nielsen > > > Andrew C Oliver > > > Rob Oxspring > > > Martin Poeschl > > > Scott Sanders > > > David Sean Taylor > > > Glen Stampoultzis > > > Mladen Turk > > > James Turner > > > Henri Yandell > > > > > > Footnotes: > > > [1] > > > http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@ > > jakarta.apache.org&msgNo=14080 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Mon Feb 03 23:30:37 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 1366 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 23:30:37 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 23:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 11572 invoked by uid 97); 3 Feb 2003 23:32:09 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 11565 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 23:32:09 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 23:32:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 739 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2003 23:30:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 635 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 23:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO set.superlinksoftware.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 23:30:26 -0000 Received: from rdu57-249-152.nc.rr.com ([83.161.120.155]) by set.superlinksoftware.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.1) with SMTP ID 938 for <austinkramer@example.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:58:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> From: <austinkramer@example.org> To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: interesting Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:13:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/DonDeut sch/ (from the front page of java.sun.com) My favorite part: But, as you might expect, among a population as broad and diverse as the Java community, with all of the corporate perspectives and individual interests, there was not an immediate path to agreement on a number of issues. Frankly, coming to consensus was much harder than I ever imagined. -Andy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Tue Feb 04 08:45:47 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 56220 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 08:45:46 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 08:45:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20411 invoked by uid 97); 4 Feb 2003 08:47:25 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 20404 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 08:47:24 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 08:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 55537 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2003 08:45:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 55524 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 08:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gandalf.tucana.at) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 08:45:33 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gandalf.tucana.at (8.11.2/8.11.2) id h148hDl24529 for austinkramer@example.org; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:43:13 +0100 Received: from marmot.at (marmot [83.161.120.155]) by gandalf.tucana.at (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h148hDg24521 for <austinkramer@example.org>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:43:13 +0100 Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:45:56 +0100 From: Martin Poeschl <austinkramer@example.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakarta General List <austinkramer@example.org> Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 References: <austinkramer@example.org> In-Reply-To: <austinkramer@example.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N db.apache.org ============= The DB project was created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one larger subcommunity. The following jakarta projects moved to the db project * ojb * turbine-torque * commons-sql [the list should be updated before sending the newsletter] http://db.apache.org Rob Oxspring wrote: >Jakarta Newsletter >================== > >Issue: 7 >Date: January 2003 >Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html > >TODO > >Contents >-------- > >General >Lucene > > > >General >======= >" Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project " >Editor: Rob Oxspring > >Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make >it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The >Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed >out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of >the lists. > >The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the >Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, >Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote >specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. > >Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for >future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was >guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was >also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be >limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for >further detail [8]. > >Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and >feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to >give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and >could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the >websites. > >[1] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=305266 >[2] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=309508 >[3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ >[4] - http://www.gmane.org/ >[5] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308677 >[6] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308715 >[7] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=308716 >[8] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=314971 >[9] - >http://austinkramer@example.org&by=thread&from=315699 >[10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ > > > >Lucene >====== >" A high-performance, full-featured text search engine " >Editor: Otis Gospodnetic > >This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In >addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for >packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release. > >a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it >possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes >from multiple threads. > >b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now >work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667. > >c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query >parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like "(+foo >+bar)^2 +baz" is now supported and equivalent to "(+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz". > >d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to >re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the >term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now >implemented using this method. > >e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an >Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored >against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text, >with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note >that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over >the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity >implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with >every hit. > >f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible >for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the >org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced >programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at >least now it is possible. > >g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery, >PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and >clauses. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org >For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: austinkramer@example.org From generalaustinkramer@example.org Wed Feb 05 02:55:22 2003 Return-Path: <generalaustinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 26581 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 02:55:22 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 02:55:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24216 invoked by uid 97); 5 Feb 2003 02:56:57 -0000 Delivered-To: austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 24209 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 02:56:57 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 02:56:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25847 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2003 02:55:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact austinkramer@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:austinkramer@example.org> List-Id: "Jakarta General List" <general.jakarta.apache.org> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <austinkramer@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list austinkramer@example.org Received: (qmail 25815 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 02:55:11 -0000 Received: from mail.mailsnare.net (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 02:55:11 -0000 Received: from 83.161.120.155 (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by dummy.domain.name (Postfix) with SMTP id 20C22464176; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from basebeans.com (pcp01379980pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [83.161.120.155]) by mail.mailsnare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8934E46410A; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <austinkramer@example.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 21:55:05 -0500 From: Vic Cekvenich <austinkramer@example.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: austinkramer@example.org Cc: austinkramer@example.org Subject: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I would like to propose a project for the incubator, I also cc general li= st. Background Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a=20 portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical=20 business applications that you install from setup.exe. It use Jakarta many sub projects, it=92s main verticals are CMS and=20 Community building. It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. It=92s based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which=20 has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar=20 filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of it=92s= =20 goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how=20 many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons=20 SQL for DAO. The goal of it=92s UI is something like =93my.netscape.com=94 where you c= an=20 move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin=20 can assign a suite for a =93role=94 (based on JDBC Realms). The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project,=20 for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms=20 in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar=20 to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have it=92s XML move= d=20 to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS=20 feeds, and approval, etc. I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a=20 tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day=20 as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most=20 projects now are framework type for developers. Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more=20 involvement. It=92s developers list https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3D55539 but I did most of the development. I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is=20 running it. I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after=20 acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (=93understan= d=20 what it means to build a community=94). One developer is using Nullsoft=20 Open source setup to make a setup. It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices=20 designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL=20 Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be=20 used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat=20 and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. It=92s an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is=20 simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. Some of the features: - New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a=20 lot of content at once) before it is available. - Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table= ) - RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) - Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table,=20 each role has it=92s module actions) - Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web=20 client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. - It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and=20 display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) Like I said it is simple, combined systems to make a useful application.=20 For example, anyone can write a user maintenance web module, basicPortal=20 uses it for JDBC Realms, so in Struts in order to long in you need to be=20 a user. CMS: users enter an XML record in a XML field in DB. Simple. But since=20 it is DB, it can be flagged a approved, and rendered to another HTML=20 filed in same table. Ad sub system uses GIF images stored in a DB. When user is browsing=20 certain content, we can find out ads with similar metatags and display=20 it. (as well as measuer click troughs via count++;) The entire application is tile (Sturts tiles action, vs Struts action)=20 based, so that users in the Relm of admin, can move tiles around similar=20 to my.netscape.com to change the look and feel for the group. Other modules are even simpler. The foundation of application is Struts Tiles Action (MVC), so as above,=20 it can have several different presentations. It can also have several different DB layers, such as RowSet or=20 SQL-Commons. Other can be added by implementing a simple DAO interface.=20 (we did not do OJB or JDO yet since they tend to be more heavyweight). The system comes with PostGreSQL DB and can alternatively be installed=20 via Setup.exe, since it is an application useful for business (as=20 opposed to a framework like Struts that is used by a programmer). Upon installation, once can immediately run J:Meter on it, to find out=20 how quickly the master/detail processing would happen in your=20 environment. It is popular to have performance of a system (and you can=20 change your layers here). And if I can say useful again, J:Meter is cool and so is DBCP, but when=20 combined and we code a simple master/detail processing, now that is=20 greater than the sum of the parts. Other Jakarta projects might want to demo a sample of it=92s features, an= d=20 basicPortal could provide the rest, for example it=92s working and=20 updateable beans. And I think we should move past the Apache HTTP static web server.=20 Apache is not as powerful as a DB based Java CMS, such as basicPortal. Also=85. If you are old enough to remember the days of Shareware, things=20 like Sidekick. I miss those days, when you could develop an application=20 (not a framework) and offer it to the community. I hope for an explosion=20 of web applications/share ware, free ware similar to basicPortal setup.ex= e. Orphaned and Inexperience, etc: basicPortal is not. It has more=20 production sites (non-compete) than Jetspeed, etc. Development on=20 basicPortal has gone on for more than 6 months. It has plenty of ties to Apache products, except where there are none. Lastly, every now and then, there are talented people between the gigs.=20 System programming is cool, but if we can write a killer bus. app., that=20 can pay the bills. BasicPortal is Apache license already. It does use JasperReports for=20 repotting (Apache license) and PostgreSQL, both of which are non-Jakrta,=20 and it comes out of the box with Eclipse, like Jboss. So you get a full=20 environment for the download. It will also cross over to
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