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Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:03:52 +0100 Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:03:52 +0100 (CET) From: yhunt@example.com To: yhunt@example.com Subject: [jira] Subscription: Open Excalibur Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Issue Subscription Filter: Open Excalibur Issues (10 issues) Open issues in the excalibur components Subscriber: excalibur Project: Excalibur Components Status: Open, In Progress Key Summary EXLBR-21 http://excalibur.apache.org/apidocs/ contains only old Avalon packages http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-21 EXLBR-19 URLSource reports non-existent URL exists http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-19 EXLBR-15 In org.apache.excalibur.source.impl.FTPSource, URL.getXYZ() results must be URL-decoded http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-15 EXLBR-12 restructure jira http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-12 EXLBR-9 migrate wiki content from /avalon http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-9 EXLBR-8 customize wiki look and feel http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-8 EXLBR-5 Jars not published to iBiblio http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-5 EXLBR-1 Timing bug in rg.apache.excalibur.thread.ThreadControl.join() http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-1 EXLBR-20 org.apache.avalon.excalibur.thread.impl.DefaultThreadPool is not disposed properly. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-20 EXLBR-17 excalibur code format rules for eclipse http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXLBR-17 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 09 15:32:14 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 51322 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 15:32:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 15:32:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 76918 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 15:31:44 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 76858 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 15:31:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 76789 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2005 15:31:42 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:31:41 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so225691rne for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:31:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CxeJ7Cc+Ws81nomRDBXTmpDeAgGWNdyybBbyLR5NuJUBcBD8b4mi3TmAzSBRbBUMErepCqrIKKEHc6/caDIeYyPUOi3p22qEBtgrwOsY14j2qNsne2jd683KXG+TeZFDXkKIeTLPc5U/Zi6oK93Dera0QL3b1bHkQdzQtbVEUns= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id a70mr891088rnb; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:31:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:31:37 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur-Dev <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Lowering the barrier to Excalibur Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N We've mentioned the need to make developing with Excalibur easier several times on this list. I've been thinking about ways to do this and here are some of my suggestions: 1. A series of short tutorials: We could create a couple short tutorials/introductions somewhat like Picocontainer's "One minute description,Two minute tutorial,Five minute introduction" set. These could be placed in the wiki. 2. Maven plugins like Turbine's META [1]: What about creating a maven plugin that could setup a Fortress or ECM development environment in one command. 3. A simple binary distribution: Unzipping the distribution would give you all the libraries, example configuration files and the Java Service Wrapper already setup. Maybe you could have a couple versions: a lightweight distro which only has a trivial example included versus a "Kitchen Sink" distro that shows how you can tie several components together. 4. Eclipse Plugins: I'm doing some plugin development now and maybe later this year I can write some custom editors for role and configuration files or for generating meta-data or maybe even a graphical editor for wiring up the container (drag and drop the component roles). I'm not sure what type of plugin would be useful, so I'd appreciate some ideas. Also, I think we need to emphasize our relationship with other existing projects more like Turbine, Keel, Cocoon, Xingu, etc. hammett recently said: >I think Spring is twenty years ahead of what we have here - in the sense of >speeding up the development. Well, perhaps. But perhaps not when you consider Turbine and Cocoon and all these other projects which use Excalibur. If we can help users leverage these other libraries and refine Excalibur as an easy to use common platform, then I think we're not in such dire straits. Thoughts? -- jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 09 15:55:25 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 83218 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 15:55:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 15:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 70473 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 15:55:24 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 70430 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 15:55:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 70412 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2005 15:55:24 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail.nmmn.net (HELO mail.nmmn.net) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:55:21 -0800 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (automatix.nmmn.com [83.161.120.155]) by mail.nmmn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F0ACA0AF for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 16:55:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:53:38 +0100 From: Markus Wolf <yhunt@example.com> User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Lowering the barrier to Excalibur References: <yhunt@example.com> In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Excalibur list (this is my fist post), > 1. A series of short tutorials: We could create a couple short > tutorials/introductions somewhat like Picocontainer's "One minute > description,Two minute tutorial,Five minute introduction" set. These > could be placed in the wiki. > This is a must. Either in the way pico have it, or in some use cases for which Excalibur could be used. The examples in the repository are far from beeing useful, because they are too simple and just show a startup. A better Swing/SWT example, a simple "this-is-my-server-for-some-service" example and something like this would be very useful. > 2. Maven plugins like Turbine's META [1]: What about creating a maven > plugin that could setup a Fortress or ECM development environment in > one command. > I think this isn't that good. It may help to setup a project for an experienced Excalibur developer, but the entry barrier isn't lowered with that. > 3. A simple binary distribution: Unzipping the distribution would > give you all the libraries, example configuration files and the Java > Service Wrapper already setup. Maybe you could have a couple > versions: a lightweight distro which only has a trivial example > included versus a "Kitchen Sink" distro that shows how you can tie > several components together. > That is a good one I think. With a binary distro a new developer would not have to bother with the dependencies, wich is quite nerving. > 4. Eclipse Plugins: I'm doing some plugin development now and maybe > later this year I can write some custom editors for role and > configuration files or for generating meta-data or maybe even a > graphical editor for wiring up the container (drag and drop the > component roles). I'm not sure what type of plugin would be useful, > so I'd appreciate some ideas. > That sounds interesting also, but again IMHO it is for more experienced developers. Excalibur is a big tool and if you give 'newbies' tools wich generate the neccessary code in a certain way they could use it but don't get the concept of it and will never learn it like when they write it by hand. Also 5. Documentation: I think some more and more and much more documentation in each direction would greatly help developing with Excalibur. Currently most things I have to figure out by searching/looking through the sources. Some documentation of the concept of containers, components and roles would help clear new developers minds. Also some documentation of the big picture behind Excalibur would greatly help I think. Regards Markus -- > > emedia-solutions wolf > Wedeler Landstrasse 63 > 22559 Hamburg > (040) 550 083 70 > >> web: http://www.emedia-solutions-wolf.de >> mail: yhunt@example.com >> pgp: http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 09 16:05:18 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 93481 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 16:05:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 16:05:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6152 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 16:05:13 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 6101 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 16:05:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 6087 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2005 16:05:13 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:05:13 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so194540rne for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:05:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Vy0b/+lDlHx/qk8dB7tebYram57j3NKbB2UxB7Vzzwo46j1bIcnrBpAIF4YjrKLTVnk8RohpZt3kV7f99kCMyJrxUqSLANDfk2ApLA4qsJX6kKUEMAgTS2FRCx5bVmmbKlVa1J9x8EpC4uxEMKNoy65mkmLPkYI60Ba7bBKRQeg= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id x71mr926937rna; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:05:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:05:10 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur-Dev <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Lowering the barrier to Excalibur In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <yhunt@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:31:37 -0500, J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > 2. Maven plugins like Turbine's META [1]: What about creating a maven > plugin that could setup a Fortress or ECM development environment in > one command. Meant to add a link to META: [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/meta/ -- jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 09 18:17:59 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 83600 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 18:17:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 18:17:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 41730 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 18:17:53 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 41652 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 18:17:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 41639 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2005 18:17:52 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:17:51 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so239943rnf for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:17:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CWxxl2qUUK9glstWoPXtG5O0dKYgNs3qK8c+NCdCDPrJAKt1B5Qb8eNdw4Ri0m93yrRDl48224aezLaAyYG2/Ynep38pmNisAqyDEz25J+tZykhzWPoOaaivjiTC8Izn6YHxKjl7Ki35mfS942MK8gdDfpcvSHLUh0MwGVseFTM= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id u57mr1041210rnb; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:17:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:17:48 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Lowering the barrier to Excalibur In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:53:38 +0100, Markus Wolf <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > Hi Excalibur list (this is my fist post), Welcome Markus! > > 1. A series of short tutorials: We could create a couple short > > tutorials/introductions somewhat like Picocontainer's "One minute > > description,Two minute tutorial,Five minute introduction" set. These > > could be placed in the wiki. > > > This is a must. Either in the way pico have it, or in some use cases for > which Excalibur could be used. The examples in the repository are far > from beeing useful, because they are too simple and just show a startup. > A better Swing/SWT example, a simple > "this-is-my-server-for-some-service" example and something like this > would be very useful. Definitely a must. So what type of examples would be useful? Here are some of my thoughts: Topics to cover (split across several tutorials/examples): * Lifecycle Basics (what are the lifecycles) * Using the configuration API * Service Manager Lookups * Role Files and Meta-Info (how to configure) * Fortress Lifestyles * Running Environments: Swing vs Console vs Servlet... What else? What type of example applications would be useful? * The current Swing "Hello World Translator" app * An Excalibur based "Pet Store" app (web or swing) * Some sort of network server (hosts a simple DB or bean server or something) -- jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 09 18:40:40 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 99851 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 18:40:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 18:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 87794 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 18:40:39 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 87761 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2005 18:40:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 87745 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2005 18:40:39 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ip66-105-113-116.z113-105-66.customer.algx.net (HELO oe.platinumsolutions.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:40:38 -0800 Received: by oe.platinumsolutions.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 2ED8831E0C; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from oe.platinumsolutions.com (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by oe.platinumsolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576FF31E05 for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:40:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:40:31 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Harrah <yhunt@example.com> To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Lowering the barrier to Excalibur In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (normal) X-Mailer: SuSE Linux Openexchange Server 4 - WebMail (Build 2.3834) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.21-273-smp i386 (JVM 1.3.1_13) Organization: PlatinumSolutions, Inc. References: <yhunt@example.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on oe.platinumsolutions.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Things I'd like to see: 1) A configuration analyzer tool with a) the ability to visualize/navigate/inspect the configuration, ideally both at run-time and at design time, but I'd settle for either b) useful, human-readable help for resolving problems and not just identifying what went wrong. For example, if you have no class for a given role, it would be great if there were something that told you exactly what the container were looking for and why, and what steps could be taken to fix the problem (add xdoclet tags, fix classpath, create the class with the role, etc). If this can't be done in a tool, some documentation of this would be better than nothing. c) the ability to produce documentation of the configuration d) the ability to validate a configuration's cross-references without having to spin up the full container 2) Documentation that is more task-oriented and less class-oriented. Javadoc is great, but it is never going to work for barrier-lowering documentation. If I am a beginner, I have no idea what class to look in. I know what I want to accomplish. On Mar 09, 2005 10:31 AM, J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > We've mentioned the need to make developing with Excalibur easier > several times on this list. I've been thinking about ways to do this > and here are some of my suggestions: > > 1. A series of short tutorials: We could create a couple short > tutorials/introductions somewhat like Picocontainer's "One minute > description,Two minute tutorial,Five minute introduction" set. These > could be placed in the wiki. > > 2. Maven plugins like Turbine's META [1]: What about creating a maven > plugin that could setup a Fortress or ECM development environment in > one command. > > 3. A simple binary distribution: Unzipping the distribution would give > you all the libraries, example configuration files and the Java > Service Wrapper already setup. Maybe you could have a couple > versions: a lightweight distro which only has a trivial example > included versus a "Kitchen Sink" distro that shows how you can tie > several components together. > > 4. Eclipse Plugins: I'm doing some plugin development now and maybe > later this year I can write some custom editors for role and > configuration files or for generating meta-data or maybe even a > graphical editor for wiring up the container (drag and drop the > component roles). I'm not sure what type of plugin would be useful, > so I'd appreciate some ideas. > > > Also, I think we need to emphasize our relationship with other > existing projects more like Turbine, Keel, Cocoon, Xingu, etc. hammett > recently said: > > >I think Spring is twenty years ahead of what we have here - in the > >sense of > >speeding up the development. > > Well, perhaps. But perhaps not when you consider Turbine and Cocoon > and all these other projects which use Excalibur. If we can help > users leverage these other libraries and refine Excalibur as an easy > to use common platform, then I think we're not in such dire straits. > > Thoughts? > > -- > jaaron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com > For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com > -- Matt Harrah Senior Consultant, PlatinumSolutions, Inc. yhunt@example.com http://www.platinumsolutions.com Two Discovery Square, 12012 Sunset Hills Road, Suite 445 Reston, VA 20190 PH: 717.361.8032 FAX: 717.361.8032 This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Thu Mar 10 21:09:06 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 9485 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2005 21:09:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 2005 21:09:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 44876 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2005 21:09:04 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 44842 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2005 21:09:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 44828 invoked by uid 99); 10 Mar 2005 21:09:04 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:09:03 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so667649rne for <yhunt@example.com>; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:09:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tNVqew2IFoOmTcAUfh2EVGwp1svE/tRC7L3+mPD2xq0c/i6WP2pXJBVJ9xMMeY5dCZhx0N5eGtUFAyTWsMVYaw8kc+ggRo2cgBgOxUETvAUf93ct4AkWLOJ4LSY5G1eCC5Hop90eZgSfh3X9Hh+mUjABph9or8s3HNHwMkQsWg8= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id f76mr2221408rnb; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:09:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:09:01 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur-Dev <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Working on Fortress Platform Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hello. I'm working on filling in the excalibur/fortress/platform directory. My idea is to create a distributable for Fortress that when unzipped would look something like: README.txt LICENSE.txt /bin fortress.bat fortress.sh /conf wrapper.conf fortress.xconf fortress.xlog /lib *.jar /logs Couple of issues: 1. I'd like to use Java Service Wrapper [1] for launching and include the binaries for windows and linux. The license is compatible (BSD-ish). However, doing this requires I add the .so and .dll files to subversion as well as the wrapper.jar since the one on ibiblio is outdated. 2. I'm going to include fortress-examples-1.2.jar and the distribution will be setup to start the SwingExample by default. I'd like to work on other examples in the future. Anyway, just wanted to check if anyone had any other plans for this directory before I commit. I'm testing the maven build at the moment and if all goes well I'll commit sometime tomorrow. -- jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Sat Mar 12 05:03:36 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 89406 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2005 05:03:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Mar 2005 05:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 83343 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 05:03:35 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 83291 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 05:03:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 83276 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2005 05:03:34 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:03:33 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so846323rne for <yhunt@example.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:02:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JY1PjWVB4it/VlR5+KYoVbzDTugJOKiFCk10H/Hl+Athi0TfLq5SVxcYnLGV9QSb+q5NUrjrCIVsYxdR/SMbtEP1UjLGXi7QCnMSzU2LXa/HuIzwFd3a5uZD6isu54R+WR44n/Xzs3k+WGdI1wO0HC0ACN1GQjsSo49ON+o81kk= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id f65mr3562798rng; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:56:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:56:15 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur-Dev <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <yhunt@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:09:01 -0500, J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > > Anyway, just wanted to check if anyone had any other plans for this > directory before I commit. I'm testing the maven build at the moment > and if all goes well I'll commit sometime tomorrow. Well, it's in there [1]. I'd like to make sure something like this is distributed for a Fortress 1.2 release. Speaking of Fortress 1.2, does anyone have any plans yet? We've only got 2 issues in JIRA. That can't be right. Anyone got ideas of what needs or wants done for 1.2? -- jaaron [1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/excalibur/trunk/fortress/platform/?root=Apache-SVN --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Sat Mar 12 11:41:58 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 10610 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2005 11:41:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Mar 2005 11:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9015 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 11:41:57 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 8972 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 11:41:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 8959 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2005 11:41:56 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail.nmmn.net (HELO mail.nmmn.net) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:41:54 -0800 Received: from Darthmaul.matrixnet (c217145.adsl.hansenet.de [83.161.120.155]) by mail.nmmn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6A3CA0AF for <yhunt@example.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:41:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (Palpatine.matrixnet [83.161.120.155]) by Darthmaul.matrixnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23033DC28 for <yhunt@example.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:41:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:41:42 +0100 From: Markus Wolf <yhunt@example.com> Organization: emedia-solutions wolf User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform References: <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5C813523E5EB28F6AB2037FE" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------enig5C813523E5EB28F6AB2037FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Anyway, just wanted to check if anyone had any other plans for this > > directory before I commit. I'm testing the maven build at the > > moment and if all goes well I'll commit sometime tomorrow. > > Well, it's in there [1]. I'd like to make sure something like this > is distributed for a Fortress 1.2 release. > Nice one. :-) > Speaking of Fortress 1.2, does anyone have any plans yet? > > We've only got 2 issues in JIRA. That can't be right. Anyone got > ideas of what needs or wants done for 1.2? > Where do I find JIRA? I would like to see some highlevel database components in (I guess this belongs to) cornerstone. E.g. something for Hibernate and Apache OJB. But I'm not sure if I have enough experience with fortress to start contributing code... I'm very new and just have a simple view off it. Markus -- > > emedia-solutions wolf > Wedeler Landstrasse 63 > 22559 Hamburg > (040) 550 083 70 > > > web: http://www.emedia-solutions-wolf.de mail: > > yhunt@example.com >> pgp: http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net > --------------enig5C813523E5EB28F6AB2037FE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCMtV4SDac28HpmKMRAifzAJ9WfEY9NLN+SKowJBOULI0M0bgjZQCgjjhv eFwBqSADGMpT8PwFsq3I5JA= =5hgX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5C813523E5EB28F6AB2037FE-- From devyhunt@example.com Sat Mar 12 16:23:35 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 96176 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2005 16:23:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Mar 2005 16:23:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 86656 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 16:23:34 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 86612 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2005 16:23:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 86599 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2005 16:23:33 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (HELO rproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:23:32 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so1728608rnf for <yhunt@example.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nkJneZDarvEN8zhrnK4m9VPK5u/U0wKJUV8pr0oqYwM1PoucCBq6miokpG+mcnD9/18yIQKD2/r5JOYREruBnmbZ/I+tA+r9nFTED9DOLXIPuwLyVdNliuusWKNhxhafOfSHUUxD0KJ47Q168hE4IM/2XuvCkhJiACb8VpuIyUo= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id x71mr3862025rna; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:23:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:23:26 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:41:42 +0100, Markus Wolf <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > > Speaking of Fortress 1.2, does anyone have any plans yet? > > > > We've only got 2 issues in JIRA. That can't be right. Anyone got > > ideas of what needs or wants done for 1.2? > > > Where do I find JIRA? http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa There are Excalibur Components and Excalibur Fortress modules available. Go ahead and put in your feature requests and bug reports. > I would like to see some highlevel database components in (I guess this > belongs to) cornerstone. E.g. something for Hibernate and Apache OJB. > But I'm not sure if I have enough experience with fortress to start > contributing code... I'm very new and just have a simple view off it. You might want to check out some of the components in the Keel Framework (http://keelframework.org/) which is based on Fortress. Also, it looks like there were Hibernate wrappers for Avalon in the Hibernate project but they were removed due to the lack of a maintainer. Some documents can be found at: http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine/turbine-2.4-M1/howto/hibernate-howto.html http://www.hibernate.org/123.html Maybe we can see about getting the code revived or moved somewhere. 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Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:13:34 -0800 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (dsl29-178.uninet.ee [83.161.120.155]) by mail.datanet.ee (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2FNDSiD005416 for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:13:29 +0200 Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:13:28 +0200 From: Neeme Praks <yhunt@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: et, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform References: <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> <yhunt@example.com> In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060408060807050104080504" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------ms060408060807050104080504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J Aaron Farr wrote: [snip] >Also, it looks like there were Hibernate wrappers for Avalon in the >Hibernate project but they were removed due to the lack of a >maintainer. Some documents can be found at: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine/turbine-2.4-M1/howto/hibernate-howto.html > > http://www.hibernate.org/123.html > >Maybe we can see about getting the code revived or moved somewhere. I >think Eric Pugh was the developer for that. > > I was one of the original developers of that but I have been quite inactive recently, so it could be that it was removed. Anyway, I still have some version of the code lying somewhere on my harddrive, in case someone is interested. It is just a light-weight wrapper around the Hibernate SessionFactory (or whatever it was called) and I'm still using the code in some of my projects. 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15 Mar 2005 23:41:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 23:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 76729 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 23:41:40 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 76696 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 23:41:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 76682 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2005 23:41:40 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail.transitionpoint.com (HELO raq01.transitionpoint.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:41:39 -0800 Received: from sagunto (host217-37-164-26.in-addr.btopenworld.com [83.161.120.155]) by raq01.transitionpoint.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j2FNcw420529 for <yhunt@example.com>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:38:58 -0500 From: "Eric Pugh" <yhunt@example.com> To: "'Excalibur Developers List'" <yhunt@example.com> Subject: RE: Working on Fortress Platform Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:41:34 -0000 Organization: OpenSource Connections Message-ID: <024201c529b8$89c15fc0$098315ac@sagunto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi guys.. The code moved around.. From I think fulcrum to hibernate and then off again. I can revive it if you want. There was some sort of issue with yhunt@example.com. I think that has since been sorted out, so it would be good to host yhunt@example.com. Otherwise I guess I could setup another tiny sourceforge project? Eric -----Original Message----- From: Neeme Praks [mailto:yhunt@example.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:13 PM To: Excalibur Developers List Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform J Aaron Farr wrote: [snip] >Also, it looks like there were Hibernate wrappers for Avalon in the >Hibernate project but they were removed due to the lack of a >maintainer. Some documents can be found at: > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine/turbine-2.4-M1/howto/hiberna > te-howto.html > > http://www.hibernate.org/123.html > >Maybe we can see about getting the code revived or moved somewhere. I >think Eric Pugh was the developer for that. > > I was one of the original developers of that but I have been quite inactive recently, so it could be that it was removed. Anyway, I still have some version of the code lying somewhere on my harddrive, in case someone is interested. It is just a light-weight wrapper around the Hibernate SessionFactory (or whatever it was called) and I'm still using the code in some of my projects. Rgds, Neeme --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Tue Mar 15 23:43:49 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 6140 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 23:43:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 23:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 79046 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 23:43:30 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 78985 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 23:43:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 78929 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2005 23:43:30 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of yhunt@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:43:29 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so6692wra for <yhunt@example.com>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:43:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pzDKwRdPMO4cuGAiGDHFdsL1/h4fhbi5KMVogNHHodRfFLCybRiy22/4oeCgyiRtBJbBmIVi3IcQAF+dkmqoAPAyjInaif3WvRSBxhCwAqkDBlwMOq388/HqS/Lhs8C5pH4uOGF8F1W7RHIZ9uRgDExZTJpsqEDHOsi/UlSZav8= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id s18mr1204651rna; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:43:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:43:23 -0500 From: J Aaron Farr <yhunt@example.com> Reply-To: yhunt@example.com To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform In-Reply-To: <024201c529b8$89c15fc0$098315ac@sagunto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <yhunt@example.com> <024201c529b8$89c15fc0$098315ac@sagunto> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:41:34 -0000, Eric Pugh <yhunt@example.com> wrote: > Hi guys.. > > The code moved around.. From I think fulcrum to hibernate and then off > again. I can revive it if you want. There was some sort of issue with > yhunt@example.com. I think that has since been sorted out, so it > would be good to host yhunt@example.com. Otherwise I guess I could setup > another tiny sourceforge project? It seems like it might be a good fit for Fulcrum. The licensing issue would be that Hibernate uses the LGPL. There have been a lot of discussions about this on the legal lists and some resolution, though I don't know if an "official" decision was made. I'll look into it. -- jaaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 16 07:48:54 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 40815 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 07:48:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 07:48:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 5823 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2005 07:48:53 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 5735 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2005 07:48:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 5720 invoked by uid 99); 16 Mar 2005 07:48:52 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail.nmmn.net (HELO mail.nmmn.net) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:48:50 -0800 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (automatix.nmmn.com [83.161.120.155]) by mail.nmmn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BA4CA042 for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:48:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:47:03 +0100 From: Markus Wolf <yhunt@example.com> User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Subject: Re: Working on Fortress Platform References: <yhunt@example.com> <024201c529b8$89c15fc0$098315ac@sagunto> <yhunt@example.com> In-Reply-To: <yhunt@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Because I was the one who first asks for this Hibernate stuff I would like to state that I've choosen to go with OJB. I saw a very simple OJB component in cocoon wich was a good starting point for me. Thanks for your effords Markus Wolf -- > > emedia-solutions wolf > Wedeler Landstrasse 63 > 22559 Hamburg > (040) 550 083 70 > >> web: http://www.emedia-solutions-wolf.de >> mail: yhunt@example.com >> pgp: http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yhunt@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: yhunt@example.com From devyhunt@example.com Wed Mar 16 13:43:43 2005 Return-Path: <devyhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 77725 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 13:43:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 13:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 30494 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2005 13:43:40 -0000 Delivered-To: yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 30457 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2005 13:43:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact yhunt@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:yhunt@example.com> List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" <dev.excalibur.apache.org> Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" <yhunt@example.com> Delivered-To: mailing list yhunt@example.com Received: (qmail 30427 invoked by uid 99); 16 Mar 2005 13:43:38 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from netlx010.civ.utwente.nl (HELO netlx010.civ.utwente.nl) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:43:38 -0800 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (paddo.student.utwente.nl [83.161.120.155]) by netlx010.civ.utwente.nl (8.11.7/HKD) with ESMTP id j2GDhJ630441 for <yhunt@example.com>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:43:19 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/83.161.120.155913 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:47:57 +0100 Subject: Board Report Draft From: Leo Simons <yhunt@example.com> To: Excalibur Developers List <yhunt@example.com> Message-ID: <yhunt@example.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact yhunt@example.com for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: yhunt@example.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi gang, As usual, the board report draft is at http://wiki.apache.org/excalibur/BoardReports/20050323 I'd like to send it tomorrow morning, so if you would like anything to be changed or added, please be quick :-D. 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