From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 07:12:26 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 84163 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:12:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 61150 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:12:21 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 61105 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:12:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 61086 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 07:12:20 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.0 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:12:20 -0700 Received: (qmail 84063 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?83.161.120.155?) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:12:07 -0000 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:13:44 +0200 From: Carsten Ziegeler <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: 83.161.120.155 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Leszek Gawron wrote: > > Not that totally: we do not have a cocoon log formatter giving the same > functionality as the logkit one. > You're right. But I guess it would be easy to provide a formatter for whatever logging system we decide to use. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, S&N AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/ From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 07:14:31 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 84988 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:14:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 66710 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:14:25 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 66691 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:14:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 66678 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 07:14:25 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from v07274.home.net.pl (HELO v07274.home.net.pl) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:14:23 -0700 Received: from sj162.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO ?83.161.120.155?) (lgawron.mobilebox@gonzalezjerry@example.com) by matrix15.home.net.pl with SMTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:07:21 -0000 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:07:23 +0200 From: Leszek Gawron <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ralph Goers wrote: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: > >> On Mar, 31 de Mayo de 2005, 14:05, Vadim Gritsenko dijo: >> >> >>>>> Is time to moving setup log4j as our default logging package. >>>>> >>>>> Is that OK? >>>>> >>> >>> -1 >>> > > I'm also -1. I might consider replacing logkit with UGLI, but not LOG4J > directly. However, (a) UGLI is part of LOG4J 1.3 which is still alpha, > (b) an analysis needs to be done to determine how UGLI performs compared > to logkit, and (c) it needs to be determined if there will be any > deployment problems (i.e what if Weblogic/JBoss/Websphere ships its own > UGLI jar and requires that it be used). > >> >> Can you explain your reasons? Is better to stay when the porject is then >> and even on the internet is not javadocs site to point from our docs? >> >> > 1. logkit isn't exactly dead. It doesn't seem like it has any known > problems and it does what it was designed to do. Your statement implies > that once a project matures and fulfills its purpose that it should then > be abandoned because no new development is being done. That doesn't make > sense. > 2. If there was a large concern, Cocoon could certainly fork its own > copy of logkit. I see no need for this though. > >> Seems like the Logkit situation is going worse with time. Until when we >> will stay tied to this dead project? >> >> >> > How is it getting worse? > >>> >>> >>>> haven't we already discussed this several times and always decided not >>>> to change it? >>>> >>> >>> +1 >>> >> >> >> Well, I think it is time to discuss again. >> >> > -1. Nothing has changed. -0. I do not think this gives us any benefit. I had an issue once with jetty 5.0 (which uses commons logging) + cocoon (with logkit) but now the issue is gone and thanks to some kind of classloading magic that cocoon did jetty is able to use SimpleLog and cocoon is using LogKitLogger with no gonzalezjerry@example.com. By the way: I like logkit.xconf much more that log4j xml configuration. -- Leszek Gawron gonzalezjerry@example.com IT Manager MobileBox sp. z o.o. 351-819-1247 http://www.mobilebox.pl mobile: 351-819-1247 fax: 351-819-1247 From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 07:26:52 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 15279 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:26:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 86595 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:26:47 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 86505 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:26:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 86480 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 07:26:45 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mailgate3.dslextreme.com (HELO mailgate3.dslextreme.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:26:43 -0700 Received: from mail5.dslextreme.com (unknown [83.161.120.155]) by mailgate3.dslextreme.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D18AE64083 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19347 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:26:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [83.161.120.155]) (83.161.120.155) by mail5.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:26:27 -0700 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:26:27 -0700 From: Ralph Goers <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSLExtreme-MailGate-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DSLExtreme-MailGate: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: gonzalezjerry@example.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Carsten Ziegeler wrote: <blockquote cite="gonzalezjerry@example.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Antonio Gallardo wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Well, I think it is time to discuss again. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!---->I still think we should remove the dependency to LogKit in 2.2 - we all see now that it's a dead project. So is there any reason to keep it? Noone else is using it and removing the dependency to LogKit does *not* mean that our logging infrastructure for components (LogEnabled) will be removed as well. Apart from configuration it's totally transparent. Carsten </pre> </blockquote> If you are talking about keeping the dependency on org.apache.avalon.excalibur.logger.LoggerManager and org.apache.avalon.framework.logger.Logger in CocoonServlet, then I don't really care as those are the two interfaces I implement to use my own logging framework.&nbsp; I don't really care what the default implementation of these interfaces is as long as they don't go away.<br> <br> Ralph<br> <br> <br> </body> </html> From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 07:32:54 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 17889 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:32:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:32:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 97832 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:32:50 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 97751 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:32:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 97713 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 07:32:49 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=INFO_TLD X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from Unknown (HELO spiderwall.cbim.it) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:32:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 1962 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:27:35 -0000 Received: from cuprouter.cbim.it (83.161.120.155) by dns1.cbim.it with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:27:30 -0000 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (pbugo.cbim.it [83.161.120.155]) by cuprouter.cbim.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26986 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:28:04 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--282927811; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> From: Ugo Cei <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:25:08 +0200 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spiderwall-Status: Clean X-Spiderwall-Scanned: spiderwall.cbim.it X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-3--282927811 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Il giorno 01/giu/05, alle 08:58, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto: > I still think we should remove the dependency to LogKit in 2.2 - we all > see now that it's a dead project. So is there any reason to keep it? > Noone else is using it and removing the dependency to LogKit does *not* > mean that our logging infrastructure for components (LogEnabled) will > be > removed as well. Apart from configuration it's totally transparent. Yes, please. One less choice to worry about. 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(83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:38:32 -0000 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:40:09 +0200 From: Carsten Ziegeler <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: 83.161.120.155 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ralph Goers wrote: >> > If you are talking about keeping the dependency on > org.apache.avalon.excalibur.logger.LoggerManager and > org.apache.avalon.framework.logger.Logger in CocoonServlet, then I don't > really care as those are the two interfaces I implement to use my own > logging framework. I don't really care what the default implementation > of these interfaces is as long as they don't go away. Yes, these interfaces will remain. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, S&N AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/ From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 07:59:52 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 25663 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 07:59:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 07:59:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 49252 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:59:47 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 49214 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 07:59:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 49199 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 07:59:47 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from cypress.ugent.be (HELO cypress.UGent.be) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:59:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [83.161.120.155]) by cypress.UGent.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898493825C0 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cypress.UGent.be ([83.161.120.155]) by localhost (gibbon.UGent.be [83.161.120.155]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04125-10 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from otsrv1.iic.ugent.be (otsrv1.iic.ugent.be [83.161.120.155]) by cypress.UGent.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CAE382585 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (host115 [83.161.120.155]) by otsrv1.iic.ugent.be (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j517xY230344 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:59:34 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steven Noels <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:59:34 +0200 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by UGent DICT X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 01 Jun 2005, at 09:00, Ralph Goers wrote: > Your statement implies that once a project matures and fulfills its > purpose that it should then be abandoned because no new development is > being done. That doesn't make sense. +1 </Steven> -- Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ gonzalezjerry@example.com gonzalezjerry@example.com From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 08:21:21 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 33055 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 08:21:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 08:21:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 92327 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:21:14 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 92206 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:21:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 92138 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 08:21:12 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ns0a.swx.com (HELO ns0a.swx.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:21:11 -0700 Received: from gate0a.unix.swx.ch (gate0a [83.161.120.155]) by ns0a.swx.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j518Kx80011141 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:20:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: from CIWMEXZSA0E.ex.ordersx.org (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by gate0a.unix.swx.ch (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j518KwWr028913 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:20:59 +0200 (MEST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Subject: RE: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:19:57 +0200 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP Thread-Index: AcVl2Ufgv5oO/y4nSFqjKUOpGQ4eyAAp+kIg From: "Nathaniel Alfred" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: Jochen Kuhnle [mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005 14:07 > To: gonzalezjerry@example.com > Subject: RE: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP > > Any preferrences which character to use? >=20 > Out of purely unrational affection, I prefer "#{" and "}".=20 > The fact that I have implemented the prototype using this syntax = really has=20 > nothing to do with this ;). "}" is quoted by "#}", "#" by "##" and = "#x"=20 > results in an error if x !=3D '}' and x !=3D '#'. Putting the special character before the opening brace leads to more possibilies for collisions in existing logicsheets. For example, with "name" and "text" being XSLT variables: <a href=3D"page.html#{$name}"><xsl:value-of select=3D"$text"/></a> By putting the special character, which cannot be at the start of an = XSLT expression, after the opening brace avoids these problems altogether. Cheers, Alfred. 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(83.161.120.155) by bm.codeconsult.ch with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 08:32:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Message-Id: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-32--278916619; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" From: Bertrand Delacretaz <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: Google Summer of Code - projects and mentors wanted Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:32:00 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-32--278916619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cocoonistas, You might have noticed yesterday's announcement at http://code.google.com/ about the Summer of Code initiative, http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html We should have more detailed info for the ASF communities in the next few days (we're still ironing out the details about project sandboxes, CLAs etc.), but as the initiative is public already, project propositions are welcome at http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2005. Each project needs to have at least one mentor (who must be a committer AFAIK, but various models might be possible) to happen, so that students are not lost in the dark. I have entered a project at http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2005#cocoon-refdoc, and I'm looking for at least one co-mentor, as I'll be partially offline in July and August. 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1 Jun 2005 08:44:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 08:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 39170 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:43:59 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 39109 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:43:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 39096 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 08:43:59 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ns0b.swx.com (HELO ns0b.swx.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:43:57 -0700 Received: from gate0b.unix.swx.ch (gate0b [83.161.120.155]) by ns0b.swx.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j518grg6008554 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:42:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from CIWMEXZSA0E.ex.ordersx.org (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by gate0b.unix.swx.ch (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j518gpmm024764 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:42:53 +0200 (MEST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0 Subject: RE: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:42:29 +0200 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP thread-index: AcVl5OMWLxIWnaHcTO6PYFTJBQAxqwAngFkg From: "Nathaniel Alfred" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005 15:30 > To: gonzalezjerry@example.com > Subject: Re: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP > > Instead of "?" one could also use another character provided it is = sufficiently > > unlikely that the sequence curly-char appears in XSP-embedded = content or where=20 > > XSP can be embedded (XSL). The special character should not be = valid at the > > beginning of an expression at least for CSS, HTML, Java, Javascript, = Perl,=20 > > and XSLT. That excludes > >=20 > > + " * % & ` @ ' ^ ~ ! [ $ - . ( / > >=20 > > but leaves as sensible alternatives > >=20 > > {#expr} > > {=3Dexpr} > > {:expr} > > {?expr} > >=20 > > Whatever special character we agree on, it should be always the same = in all > > contexts and always enabled. > >=20 > > Any preferrences which character to use? >=20 > Yes. Given that (a) XSLT already has '{foo}' syntax, and uses = '{{foo}}' for=20 > escaping; and given that the only other XSP implementation (AxKit) = uses same=20 > syntax as in XSLT, I'm for using that same syntax too. I think it is a bad idea to use exactly the same syntax as for XSLT = because it makes really awkward to use XSP attribute interpolation inside = logicsheets. You end up wasting your time figuring out which curly mountain is needed = to get the expression to be interpreted by the right engine. It should be easy for both humans and the XSP processor to distinguish = between XSP and XSLT expressions. I don't know AxKit in detail but I assume that them using "{foo}" syntax = means that they are not using XSLT-based logicsheets. Anyway, we can still = claim to use a common standard by defining: interpolated-expr 888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4=3D '{' language-expr '}' language-expr 888a:dbb7:2d49:b3f6:8605:bf4e:caed:e5a4=3D perl-expr | '?' java-expr | '?' javascript-expr | = '?' python-expr=20 > As for backward compatibility, is is already solved by: >=20 > <xsp:page attribute-value-interpolation=3D"no"> But the default value should be attribute-value-interpolation=3D"yes", = provided we can agree on a syntax which is highly unlikely to be used in existing = XSPs. Cheers, Alfred. =20 =20 This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain = confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. = If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender urgently = and then immediately delete the message and any copies of it from your = system. 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From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 08:45:20 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 40866 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 08:45:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 08:45:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 43883 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:45:13 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 43812 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:45:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 43610 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 08:45:13 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of gonzalezjerry@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:45:09 -0700 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DdNyR-0001gW-6s for gonzalezjerry@example.com; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:49:11 +0200 Received: from host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it ([83.161.120.155]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:49:11 +0200 Received: from lmorandini by host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:49:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gonzalezjerry@example.com From: Luca Morandini <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: Re: ImageMap widget for CForms Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:50:28 +0200 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, it In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Sender: news <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Luca Morandini wrote: > >> function onClickMap () { >> >> var x= Number(cocoon.request.getParameter("map.x")); >> var y= Number(cocoon.request.getParameter("map.y")); > > Eww! Ahem... what "Eww!", exactly, means ? >> var uri; >> uri= "<zoomed map uri/>"; >> frm.getWidget().lookupWidget("map").setImageSource(uri); > > Widget is available through event.sourceWidget, IIRC. Hmmm... yes, it would be better, I'll look into it. >> BTW, I'd like mouse coordinates to be retrieved by querying the map >> widget rather than the request object... anyone knows a simple way to >> do this from within the widget class (subclass of AbstractWidget) ? > > Just create your own MapEvent with x, y fields. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll work on it. Regards, -------------------- Luca Morandini www.lucamorandini.it -------------------- From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 08:46:26 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 41406 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 08:46:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 08:46:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 47883 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:46:22 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 47844 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 08:46:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 47806 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 08:46:21 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from ajax-1.apache.org (HELO ajax.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:46:20 -0700 Received: by ajax.apache.org (Postfix, from userid 99) id EFD0C184; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:46:03 +0200 (CEST) From: gonzalezjerry@example.com To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35144] - Database / avalon problems X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo Message-Id: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:46:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG· RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT <http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35144>. ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND· INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35144 gonzalezjerry@example.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO ------- Additional Comments From gonzalezjerry@example.com 2005-06-01 10:46 ------- Check your connection pool configuration. It propabably contains a parameter which says that if the maximum number of connections is already in use, it waits for one to be freed rather than opening a new one. If it blocks in the 3rd reqeust, it could mean that you have a hard pool limit of 2 and a connection leak. Check that you are properly closing all connections to return them to the pool. NB this sort of problem should be sent first to the cocoon user mailing list to confirm if is a bug and not just a configuration problem. 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From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 09:10:25 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 49252 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 09:10:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 09:10:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 92359 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 09:10:18 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 92272 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 09:10:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 92234 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 09:10:17 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of gonzalezjerry@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:10:15 -0700 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DdPBe-00026P-1l for gonzalezjerry@example.com; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:06:54 +0200 Received: from host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it ([83.161.120.155]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:06:54 +0200 Received: from lmorandini by host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:06:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gonzalezjerry@example.com From: Luca Morandini <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: Re: Server-side image map in CForms ? Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:08:18 +0200 Lines: 80 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host42-119.pool8291.interbusiness.it User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, it In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Sender: news <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N oceatoon wrote: > > I am not at all from the GIS , and project Geoid seems to be just that, If > I'm not mistaken it allows to plug into existing ArcIMS and others with > Cocoon. I'm really looking to find a Map system I can integrate directly > into my(and others) project. I really think a simple Mapping system has > it's place within many websites especially connected with a data generation > system like cocoon which seems to be the main idea behind GEOID, I will > need to have an appropriate Graphic Map to associate to my connector, is > there such a module? Well, let me clarify that geographic data are inherently big, you would most probably need a map-server to produce them for client consumption. Think of DBMSs: you need one but for the most trivial tabular data... for geographic data it's the same: you need a map-server (MapServer, GeoServer, ArcIMS, etc.) but for the most trivial geographic data. > If nothing really exist I will be glad to start a vulgarised Map solution > within Geoid. > MapBuilder is quite a good solution, but 100% JS which I like but people > don't allways have. > do you know any other ones by any chance ? IIUC, you're thinking of a map client, aren't you ? At the moment I'm working on a generalized map client based on Cocoon, with three levels of functionality: 1) Base (most accessible, even for impaired people): server-side image maps with no JavaScript and no frames on the client. 2) Intermediate: server-side images with client-side JavaScript and frames. 3) Advanced: SVG. I've started by building some JavaScript classes (they can be used both on the client or on the server) and some CForms widgets... don't know wether my effort will go into Geoid though. BTW, MapBuilder works great, but you need WMS servers to make it work, don't forget it. >>If what you have to do is just position points, use DIVs live happy >>after that :) > > well yes that could a solution but quite limited. > It would be good to go on adding functionalities once the mapping system is > done, and div solutions will probably be blocking after that. Most web-based GIS apps don't need SVG: just some background data and clickable points (when clicked some data are shown) will do for most applications. Sure, SVG adds local pan/zoom and a lot of nice graphic effects, but carefully consider the potential problems with plugins before going for it. >>Don't get me wrong, I like SVG, but forcing user to install a plug-in >>would be an unpopular option. > > The idea would be to have clickable jpegs generated from svg and later when > fully supported directly svg. Do you think GML is something to look into or > is it a huge load and not necessary ? could it make my development easier ? Wait, there are map-servers that already generate SVG for you (i.e. MapViewer for Oracle) and established standard (SLD) for styling GML... don't re-invent the wheel ;) BTW, the SVG to JPEG rendering is pretty slow. Regards, P.S. Would you please start a thread on the Geoid list ? I think that would be the best place for talking about such issues. -------------------- Luca Morandini www.lucamorandini.it -------------------- From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 09:47:40 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 64255 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 09:47:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 09:47:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 76728 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 09:47:34 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 76610 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 09:47:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 76536 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 09:47:31 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from bm.codeconsult.ch (HELO bm.codeconsult.ch) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:47:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 1934 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 09:47:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?83.161.120.155?) (83.161.120.155) by bm.codeconsult.ch with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 09:47:14 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Message-Id: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-37--274406534; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" From: Bertrand Delacretaz <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Subject: could someone change the topic on the IRC #cocoon channel? Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:47:10 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-37--274406534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed heymjo rightly points out that the current topic Apache Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/) and related matters (XSP, XSLT, XML, ...) is not "mainstream-compliant" ;-) could someone with admin rights change it to something like Apache Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/) and related matters (Flow, CForms, JXTG, XSLT) Thanks! -Bertrand --Apple-Mail-37--274406534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGRTCCAv4w ggJnoAMCAQICAw0p3DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDQxMDA0MTQyMzU0WhcNMDUxMDA0MTQyMzU0WjBtMRMwEQYDVQQE EwpEZWxhY3JldGF6MREwDwYDVQQqEwhCZXJ0cmFuZDEcMBoGA1UEAxMTQmVydHJhbmQgRGVsYWNy ZXRhejElMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYWYmRlbGFjcmV0YXpAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBALXTKyJRGv/islEqVhG+iE8FSGe+4ikts9rca6OUPD4CJ+vYcXS5 arpv87lSoi0cyC8QkjB6MzsXzsraQjyO3EOeFOcNWN1XFe0Qc2uqVBSdYM6LtaSs4A1OYSweKKFK iNscMmlsIIKXvZ8xb4QmbZZSkklh5tWdJh+aNNV0m++NEUXRsqRffz6eHRmf0RjYmwxBig3KpzmH dPAcGTtDcI9O7p2OpQ7zPFAt9n4tMPx6makpU97HeGKqvWPIaaprQa/4nLhTcWDaZ1AHyFYNhzru gyRI0SDyp6OijuUZKXsaESJWEEySke18l6aZbsflzXpoCMTS9ce93fJ0uBFax/kCAwEAAaMzMDEw IQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmRlbGFjcmV0YXpAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBBAUAA4GBAEBia6WrujKxJoVkme3aFszr/WmH4x+mIj+AmrAVG2tGB+RO0yCK/aal3wLzMBYn O6zr7TPW2PqOUmMGeP7Pgr5KSMn4rlfM+Hdfd/IvqCpHuWcqq/VAto47XF2cZyGNw32EdGx8IeCe 6BFaoRh6yJdS3GkOnbqSNCVTih/PdRlxMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB 0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3du MRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2 aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJ KoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoX DTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5n IChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENB MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3 PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIG A1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29t L1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAc MRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswN o2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSe JVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/ XV9lTzGCAucwggLjAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0 aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5n IENBAgMNKdwwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAVMwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQUxDxcNMDUwNjAxMDk0NzEwWjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUG9dr4XRdyN1nac60NC/c0vNo K2gweAYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMWswaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vp bmcgQ0ECAw0p3DB6BgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzFroGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMNKdwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEASj9uHRiMmS2I8aoGB/VVmgxs FQR7j5d+Qcq1LZEB3FX9IT/KmTI/RuoiMl6tI3PbSH7LhNJDWHcV0CDMutMAqx4laTiOl6kK4hpi gFs3CP7TtBCLRYlypsbOyXjHCqO2QSNehl/qdKjbqlfoIUHCNcLsioMxxw93cormO+U84cm7KeYe tB42gugFS2YhfT30Ydhm+Di1QDLpxk0ixHmM89aTkav/Yo2mMj823Rsj50S+upB+tA0qOcl9yYXm zUf4rrU4ZRXqufRhOzLIaZSeMJqDKAIOfGyeLL96wcK+Henspx8tphWV2s5UGoAgzW3yD9Ss3w+E WBPjE+hGJGpk8wAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail-37--274406534-- From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 10:09:57 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 71839 invoked from network); 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(83.161.120.155) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 10:02:45 -0000 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:02:35 +0100 From: Ross Gardler <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code - projects and mentors wanted References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Cocoonistas, > > You might have noticed yesterday's announcement at > http://code.google.com/ about the Summer of Code initiative, > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html > > We should have more detailed info for the ASF communities in the next > few days (we're still ironing out the details about project sandboxes, > CLAs etc.), but as the initiative is public already, project > propositions are welcome at > http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2005. > > Each project needs to have at least one mentor (who must be a committer > AFAIK, but various models might be possible) to happen, so that students > are not lost in the dark. > > I have entered a project at > http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2005#cocoon-refdoc, and I'm > looking for at least one co-mentor, as I'll be partially offline in July > and August. If someone's available for this, please let me know. Bertrand, I will be willing to be a second mentor on this, although we will have to compare dates in July as I will be away for a week around ApacheCon. Also, I'm not a committer here at Cocoon only at Forrest so I'm not sure howthat affects your comment "must be a committer AFAIK, but various models might be possible" I've also added a Forrest project at http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2005#forrest-voice Ross From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 11:03:21 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 89302 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:03:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:03:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17060 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:03:17 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 17014 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:03:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 16797 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 11:03:16 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from agssa.net (HELO ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:03:12 -0700 Received: from ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (localhost.localdomain [83.161.120.155]) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j51B2u81016950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:02:56 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j51B2s4v016948; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:02:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com: apache set sender to gonzalezjerry@example.com using -f Received: from 83.161.120.155 (proxying for 83.161.120.155) (SquirrelMail authenticated user agallardo) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:02:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:02:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs From: "Antonio Gallardo" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: gonzalezjerry@example.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1.FC3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mar, 31 de Mayo de 2005, 13:50, Reinhard Poetz dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: >> IMHO, that means Logkit is dead. >> >> Is time to moving setup log4j as our default logging package. >> >> Is that OK? > > haven't we already discussed this several times and always decided not to > change it? I think this is not the case. We have new feedback from the project. There is a lack support for it and missing javadocs. Things change in the time. Having a package as part of our distribution is not an static issue. Mainly when we are receiving bad input. Or not? Take a sample, I wanted to remove pizza.jar long time ago. At that time, people voted against removed. Few months later (giving new facts), then people decided to remove it. Has not that already decided too? Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 11:06:07 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 90364 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:06:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22540 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:06:02 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 22485 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:06:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 22459 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 11:06:02 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from agssa.net (HELO ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:06:00 -0700 Received: from ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (localhost.localdomain [83.161.120.155]) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j51B5oEf017050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:05:50 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j51B5op7017049; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:05:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com: apache set sender to gonzalezjerry@example.com using -f Received: from 83.161.120.155 (proxying for 83.161.120.155) (SquirrelMail authenticated user agallardo) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs From: "Antonio Gallardo" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: gonzalezjerry@example.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1.FC3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mie, 1 de Junio de 2005, 1:58, Carsten Ziegeler dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: >> >> Well, I think it is time to discuss again. >> > I still think we should remove the dependency to LogKit in 2.2 - we all > see now that it's a dead project. So is there any reason to keep it? This is the idea, deprecate on the next 2.1.x release and remove it in 2.2. > Noone else is using it and removing the dependency to LogKit does *not* > mean that our logging infrastructure for components (LogEnabled) will be > removed as well. Apart from configuration it's totally transparent. Perhaps telling to replace with log4j was not good. We can change it with whatever else, but I don't want to have a non-suported jar in our distro. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 11:12:39 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 92282 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:12:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:12:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 39341 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:12:35 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 39260 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:12:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 39241 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 11:12:33 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.0 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:12:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 92166 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:12:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?83.161.120.155?) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:12:20 -0000 Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:13:56 +0200 From: Carsten Ziegeler <gonzalezjerry@example.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 83.161.120.155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: 83.161.120.155 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Antonio Gallardo wrote: > > Perhaps telling to replace with log4j was not good. We can change it with > whatever else, but I don't want to have a non-suported jar in our distro. > Yes, but there are only a few possibilities that make sense: log4j, commons logging, jdk14 - we can still support all three but need to decide for a default one. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, S&N AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/ From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 11:20:52 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 98959 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:20:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:20:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 53581 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:20:46 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 53555 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:20:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 53542 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 11:20:46 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from agssa.net (HELO ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:20:45 -0700 Received: from ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (localhost.localdomain [83.161.120.155]) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j51BKU26017311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:20:30 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j51BKUro017310; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:20:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com: apache set sender to gonzalezjerry@example.com using -f Received: from 83.161.120.155 (proxying for 83.161.120.155) (SquirrelMail authenticated user agallardo) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:20:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:20:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs From: "Antonio Gallardo" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: gonzalezjerry@example.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1.FC3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mie, 1 de Junio de 2005, 2:00, Ralph Goers dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: > >>On Mar, 31 de Mayo de 2005, 14:05, Vadim Gritsenko dijo: >> >> >>>>>Is time to moving setup log4j as our default logging package. >>>>> >>>>>Is that OK? >>>>> >>>>> >>>-1 >>> >>> > I'm also -1. I might consider replacing logkit with UGLI, but not LOG4J > directly. However, (a) UGLI is part of LOG4J 1.3 which is still alpha, > (b) an analysis needs to be done to determine how UGLI performs compared > to logkit, and (c) it needs to be determined if there will be any > deployment problems (i.e what if Weblogic/JBoss/Websphere ships its own > UGLI jar and requires that it be used). It's ok, perhaps the new default logger should not be log4j. I don't know. But AFAIK, log4j is the defacto standard. This is why I suggested it. > >> >>Can you explain your reasons? Is better to stay when the porject is then >>and even on the internet is not javadocs site to point from our docs? >> >> > 1. logkit isn't exactly dead. It doesn't seem like it has any known > problems and it does what it was designed to do. Maybe the project is not dead. Perhaps in process. Nobody replies on the mail lists. There are no published javadocs. Nobody replies when or where the javadocs are, well to me this signs the project is going to die. Dunno how much months, I really don't care. I care more about cocoon and my concerns are about the future of our logging system. > Your statement implies > that once a project matures and fulfills its purpose that it should then > be abandoned because no new development is being done. That doesn't make > sense. IMHO, your logic in this case seems to be not correct to me. For the records: Yes, this does not make sense. I agree. We are using other projects that are not too much dynamic. They are matured and his development almost stall. Can you point a mail where I am raising concerns about them? > 2. If there was a large concern, Cocoon could certainly fork its own > copy of logkit. I see no need for this though. A posibility, but is our bussiness to care about logging? AFAIK, not. We are gluing what we think is good for cocoon. This was mostly a HEADS-UP. I wanted to share the current state of LogKit + his community and his support. >>Seems like the Logkit situation is going worse with time. Until when we >>will stay tied to this dead project? >> >> >> > How is it getting worse? No published javadocs. Lack of support. I know our current javadocs points no where for avalon. I already fixed this. >>>>haven't we already discussed this several times and always decided not >>>>to change it? >>>> >>>> >>>+1 >>> >>> >> >>Well, I think it is time to discuss again. >> >> > -1. Nothing has changed. Why do you think so? Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. From gonzalezjerry@example.com Wed Jun 01 11:23:50 2005 Return-Path: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 350 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 11:23:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 11:23:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 59513 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:23:47 -0000 Delivered-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 59420 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2005 11:23:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gonzalezjerry@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:gonzalezjerry@example.com> Reply-To: gonzalezjerry@example.com List-Id: <dev.cocoon.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list gonzalezjerry@example.com Received: (qmail 59406 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2005 11:23:46 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from agssa.net (HELO ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:23:44 -0700 Received: from ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (localhost.localdomain [83.161.120.155]) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j51BNU9A017340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <gonzalezjerry@example.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:23:30 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j51BNTeF017339; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:23:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com: apache set sender to gonzalezjerry@example.com using -f Received: from 83.161.120.155 (proxying for 83.161.120.155) (SquirrelMail authenticated user agallardo) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> In-Reply-To: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> References: <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> <gonzalezjerry@example.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Logkit jvadocs From: "Antonio Gallardo" <gonzalezjerry@example.com> To: gonzalezjerry@example.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1.FC3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mie, 1 de Junio de 2005, 6:13, Carsten Ziegeler dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: > >> >> Perhaps telling to replace with log4j was not good. We can change it >> with >> whatever else, but I don't want to have
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