From annmcdonald@example.com Mon Apr 12 18:37:54 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 66592 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 18:37:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 18:37:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 22019 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 18:37:48 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 21398 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 18:37:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 21390 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2010 18:37:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:37:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1330.8 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO eos.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:37:46 +0000 Received: from eos.apache.org (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by eos.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C416E21; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:37:25 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> To: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:37:25 -0000 Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BWs_Wiki=5D_Update_of_=22FrontPage/BoardReports=22_by_GlenDan?= =?utf-8?q?iels?= Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Ws Wiki" for change= notification. The "FrontPage/BoardReports" page has been changed by GlenDaniels. http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/BoardReports?action=3Ddiff&rev1=3D40&re= v2=3D41 -------------------------------------------------- =3D=3D=3D Project Volunteer(s) for Reports =3D=3D=3D Everyone in the project is encouraged to add their comments, but here's t= he list of folks who are primarily responsible for board reports. Please fe= el free to volunteer to be the primary or add comments when the reports are= due. = + ||axis|| Bjorn Townsend || + ||axis2|| Deepal Jayasinghe || ||commons|| Ajith Ranabahu || ||jaxme|| || ||juddi|| Kurt Stam|| + ||kandula|| Thilina Gunarathne || ||muse|| Dan Jemiolo || + ||rampart|| Ruchith Fernando || + ||sandesha|| Chamikara Jayalath || + ||savan|| Chamikara Jayalath || ||scout|| Kurt Stam|| + ||synapse|| Asankha Perera || ||woden|| John Kaputin || ||wsif|| AleksanderSlominski || ||wss4j|| Ruchith Fernando / Kaushalye Kapuruge|| ||xmlrpc|| || + ||axis2c|| Dinesh Premalal || = 1. 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'''ReportForDec2009''' =20 From annmcdonald@example.com Mon Apr 12 19:29:00 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 78794 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 19:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 19:28:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 93045 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:28:56 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 92426 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:28:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 92418 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2010 19:28:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1331.1 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO eos.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:55 +0000 Received: from eos.apache.org (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by eos.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1039E16E21 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:35 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> To: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:34 -0000 Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BWs_Wiki=5D_Update_of_=22ReportForApr2010=22_by_GlenDaniels?= Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Ws Wiki" for change= notification. The "ReportForApr2010" page has been changed by GlenDaniels. http://wiki.apache.org/ws/ReportForApr2010 -------------------------------------------------- New page: =3D Web Services PMC Report for MONTH, YEAR =3D =3D=3D=3D Notable Happenings =3D=3D=3D Axis is gone! Now what? :) The WS PMC is just starting solid discussions on three main topics, and we = hope to have board resolutions for these things by our July report, if not = before. * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? * What should the structure look like for what remains? =3D=3D=3D Code Releases [since the last report] =3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D Subproject News =3D=3D=3D No news below means nothing particularly notable for the board occurred thi= s quarter. =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Woden =3D=3D=3D=3D Woden is an open source Java implementation of the W3C WSDL 2.0 specificati= on. =3D=3D=3D=3D JaxMe2 =3D=3D=3D=3D JaxMe 2 is an open source implementation of JAXB, the specification for Jav= a/XML binding. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Scout =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Scout is an implementation of the JSR 93 (JAXR), which is a java API= to XML registries such as jUDDI. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache jUDDI =3D=3D=3D=3D jUDDI (pronounced "Judy") is an open source Java implementation of the Univ= ersal Description, Discovery, and Integration (UDDI) specification for Web = Services. =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WSIF =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Web Services Invocation Framework (WSIF) is a simple Java API for in= voking Web services, no matter how or where the services are provided as lo= ng as it is described in WSDL. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WS-Commons =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WS-Commons is a collection of projects that are primarily used as pa= rts of various WS projects but useful even outside the WS space. WS-Commons= houses: * Apache Axiom : A streaming XML object model No news * Apache XmlSchema : an object model to manipulate XML schema documents * Apache Neethi - a WS-Policy implementation = * various other smaller projects such as tcpmon. =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Muse =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Muse is a Java implementation of WS-ResourceFramework, WS-Notificati= on, and WS-DistributedManagement. It provides code generation tools and API= s that aid users in creating standards-compliant interfaces for manageable = resources. Muse-based interfaces can be deployed in a J2EE or OSGi environm= ent. =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache XML-RPC =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache XML-RPC is a Java implementation of XML-RPC, a popular protocol that= uses XML over HTTP to implement remote procedure calls. From annmcdonald@example.com Mon Apr 12 19:34:45 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 80527 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 19:34:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 19:34:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 99577 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:34:40 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 98977 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:34:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 98969 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2010 19:34:39 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:34:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1331.5 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO eos.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:34:38 +0000 Received: from eos.apache.org (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by eos.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58C16E21 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:34:18 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> To: Apache Wiki <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:34:18 -0000 Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BWs_Wiki=5D_Update_of_=22ReportForApr2010=22_by_GlenDaniels?= Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Ws Wiki" for change= notification. The "ReportForApr2010" page has been changed by GlenDaniels. http://wiki.apache.org/ws/ReportForApr2010?action=3Ddiff&rev1=3D1&rev2=3D2 -------------------------------------------------- - =3D Web Services PMC Report for MONTH, YEAR =3D + =3D Web Services PMC Report for April, 2010 =3D + ''__DUE on April 19th__'' = =3D=3D=3D Notable Happenings =3D=3D=3D - = Axis is gone! Now what? :) = The WS PMC is just starting solid discussions on three main topics, and w= e hope to have board resolutions for these things by our July report, if no= t before. @@ -13, +13 @@ * What should the structure look like for what remains? = =3D=3D=3D Code Releases [since the last report] =3D=3D=3D - = =3D=3D=3D Subproject News =3D=3D=3D - = No news below means nothing particularly notable for the board occurred t= his quarter. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Woden =3D=3D=3D=3D Woden is an open source Java implementation of the W3C WSDL 2.0 specifica= tion. = =3D=3D=3D=3D JaxMe2 =3D=3D=3D=3D - JaxMe 2 is an open source implementation of JAXB, the specification for J= ava/XML binding. = + JaxMe 2 is an open source implementation of JAXB, the specification for J= ava/XML binding. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Scout =3D=3D=3D=3D - Apache Scout is an implementation of the JSR 93 (JAXR), which is a java A= PI to XML registries such as jUDDI. = + Apache Scout is an implementation of the JSR 93 (JAXR), which is a java A= PI to XML registries such as jUDDI. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache jUDDI =3D=3D=3D=3D jUDDI (pronounced "Judy") is an open source Java implementation of the Un= iversal Description, Discovery, and Integration (UDDI) specification for We= b Services. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WSIF =3D=3D=3D=3D - = - Apache Web Services Invocation Framework (WSIF) is a simple Java API for = invoking Web services, no matter how or where the services are provided as = long as it is described in WSDL. = + Apache Web Services Invocation Framework (WSIF) is a simple Java API for = invoking Web services, no matter how or where the services are provided as = long as it is described in WSDL. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WS-Commons =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache WS-Commons is a collection of projects that are primarily used as = parts of various WS projects but useful even outside the WS space. WS-Commo= ns houses: = * Apache Axiom : A streaming XML object model - No news + . No news * Apache XmlSchema : an object model to manipulate XML schema documents - * Apache Neethi - a WS-Policy implementation = + * Apache Neethi - a WS-Policy implementation * various other smaller projects such as tcpmon. = =3D=3D=3D=3D Apache Muse =3D=3D=3D=3D From annmcdonald@example.com Mon Apr 12 19:38:47 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 82195 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 19:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 19:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4007 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:38:42 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 3408 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2010 19:38:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 3295 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2010 19:38:41 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:38:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO aalto.aaltohost.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:38:33 +0000 Received: by aalto.aaltohost.com (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 3221E48990A; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (pool-773.879.5818.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [83.161.120.155]) (using SMTP over TLS) by localhost.localdomain (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:35:47 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:83.161.120.155) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annmcdonald@example.com, annmcdonald@example.com, annmcdonald@example.com, annmcdonald@example.com, annmcdonald@example.com, wss4j-dev <annmcdonald@example.com>, annmcdonald@example.com, annmcdonald@example.com, "annmcdonald@example.com" <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: [IMPORTANT] Web Services Board Report, and discussion X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi all! Well, Axis is gone, and as the dust settles, we need to keep moving the WS project in whatever direction it's going to go. Toward that end, this email brings you two exciting topics - 1) We need to submit a board report this month. I've set up a template here: http://wiki.apache.org/ws/ReportForApr2010 Please, dev leads, fill this out *before* next Monday. 2) We need to figure out what's next. In particular, that means: * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? * What should the structure look like for what remains? These discussions are going to happen on general@ws, so that we can keep them in one place without tons of copies. This mail serves as notification thereof to the various -dev communities. In other words, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SAY IN THIS DISCUSSION, AND YOU ARE NOT ALREADY ON GENERAL@WS, you should subscribe immediately. Thanks, --Glen From annmcdonald@example.com Thu Apr 15 03:11:07 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 34823 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2010 03:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 15 Apr 2010 03:11:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 57128 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2010 03:11:02 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 56612 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2010 03:10:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 56603 invoked by uid 99); 15 Apr 2010 03:10:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:10:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO aalto.aaltohost.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:10:51 +0000 Received: by aalto.aaltohost.com (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 7550B489737; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (pool-773.879.5818.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [83.161.120.155]) (using SMTP over TLS) by localhost.localdomain (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:08:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:83.161.120.155) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "annmcdonald@example.com" <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> Hey y'all, So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? * What should the structure look like for what remains? Here's what we've got to work with. 1. Axiom (commons) 2. Neethi (commons) 3. XmlSchema (commons) 4. Tcpmon (commons) 5. Guththila (commons) 6. JaxMe 7. jUDDI 8. Scout 9. Muse 10.Woden 11.WSIF 12.WSS4J 13.XMLRPC Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together to a new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that migrate to Axis. Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and Tcpmon as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, though, since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of commonly useful WS components. I know other ideas have been discussed for the commons stuff, so let's start that discussion and get the various opinions out on the table? That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? As for WSS4J, I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. So... what do you guys think? Thanks, --Glen P.S. Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report for this month if appropriate! From annmcdonald@example.com Thu Apr 15 05:09:04 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 85767 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2010 05:09:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 15 Apr 2010 05:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 49749 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2010 05:09:02 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 49242 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 2010 05:09:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 49232 invoked by uid 99); 15 Apr 2010 05:09:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:09:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of annmcdonald@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO mail-ww0-f49.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:08:53 +0000 Received: by wwg30 with SMTP id 30so633707wwg.22 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b7bjXRXJqmHCPeJsePablwNnSkdt+DNJh7HUGv6HKTE=; b=kxHqWtZMZr2Ol1MMFnyPtoCPHoai9mugsDmJnc+oyNfH57BtUVpyttzVY/F6PPgbGp 3SRZLvUVgpXn6Qu+4+mxAO1EcBtTI5ciqGQ4JlpGJSJs+VLSF3k2qVkUslsFpYeaCY8N cMO2UWcFHEihs+90AX81TZWT4KvcZ1u5ImhH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PGUXaOI0TWUChXRnkHt/InbZd2TPmjl+axO5efnkWIRT6MjixVp9ceBWHhE7/p1Zz0 tICdGC2Ss3p6d02ivOokit3J7GIaxb1eQ7xMdrTkg2TRDZYDYx6+8iHRIiXskm9WbbKq zLlpmHdDnMjiaCotRjX+Z8I4VjMyMZFkznvOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <annmcdonald@example.com> References: <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:08:33 +0200 Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id z45mr6527870wek.26.1271308113266; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: Re: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. From: Jochen Wiedmann <annmcdonald@example.com> To: annmcdonald@example.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> wrote= : > Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? =C2=A0Jochen? There is no new development to expect, but I'd consider the mailing list ac= tive. Jochen --=20 Germanys national anthem is the most boring in the world - how telling! From annmcdonald@example.com Fri Apr 16 14:28:45 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 67064 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 14:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 14:28:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 89698 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 14:28:38 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 88902 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 14:28:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 88750 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2010 14:28:37 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:28:37 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO aalto.aaltohost.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:28:30 +0000 Received: by aalto.aaltohost.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 7715E4893F0; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:28:09 -0400 (EDT) To: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: Re: What's next for =?UTF-8?Q?WS=40Apache=3F=20Discuss=2E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:28:09 -0400 From: Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> In-Reply-To: <annmcdonald@example.com> References: <annmcdonald@example.com> Message-ID: <eeff0f2fff3d58badea32aea04b5afb3@localhost> X-Sender: annmcdonald@example.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hm, mostly crickets chirping. Should we just Attic everything then? :) --G On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:08:17 -0400, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> wrote: > Hey y'all, > > So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... > > * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? > * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? > * What should the structure look like for what remains? > > Here's what we've got to work with. > > 1. Axiom (commons) > 2. Neethi (commons) > 3. XmlSchema (commons) > 4. Tcpmon (commons) > 5. Guththila (commons) > 6. JaxMe > 7. jUDDI > 8. Scout > 9. Muse > 10.Woden > 11.WSIF > 12.WSS4J > 13.XMLRPC > > Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much > inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with > proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. > > I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together to a > new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? > > Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that > migrate to Axis. > > Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? > > Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and > Tcpmon > as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, though, > since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of commonly > useful > WS components. I know other ideas have been discussed for the commons > stuff, > so let's start that discussion and get the various opinions out on the > table? > > That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? As for WSS4J, > I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. > > So... what do you guys think? > > Thanks, > --Glen > > P.S. Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report for this > month if appropriate! From annmcdonald@example.com Fri Apr 16 15:27:23 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 94823 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 15:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 15:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2458 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:27:16 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 1933 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:27:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 1925 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2010 15:27:15 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:27:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of annmcdonald@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO qw-out-1920.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:27:07 +0000 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so836993qwc.28 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:26:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=olcAlFsge7O7SwlkwXKgd9QlVOifp3rJPhOv0ZU6HJo=; b=VL/+eKs9bNiAtLJnfbyA1a5wou65r9afZD40t/WHHid54xZRhpChZL2JpbQbb/I1Ly Yde8qxlEyAZWAbZeeLW4Qco089OKT/ytOoGASpMCCQzOhnTqIuKLo5sp6Fqnejdcic1H pqGOwD9uF6WLZSdktnM3Xd1POeDr8g0LE4hLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vANIzG0jc++cDipk35yaDoaWCKuGIxKu7vqyEzdJC9XlJzCKPUf66AePxDZMICWyJq R1Q2S9bYmqn7v2ynFfVhn+MByy0bshRA7XDEW5iuH55F4nKQR29nbrDsi3I0MvXkrk9v 8FFNcbla6QpxsartTFROxfG39k6rV2dfxkoYY= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id mg9mr2537722qcb.33.1271431606621; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macdaddy.local (c-75-69-237-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y41sm2493122qce.23.283.161.120.155.26.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:26:43 -0400 From: Kurt T Stam <annmcdonald@example.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annmcdonald@example.com Subject: Re: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. References: <annmcdonald@example.com> <eeff0f2fff3d58badea32aea04b5afb3@localhost> In-Reply-To: <eeff0f2fff3d58badea32aea04b5afb3@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Glen Daniels wrote: > Hm, mostly crickets chirping. > > Should we just Attic everything then? :) > > --G > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:08:17 -0400, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> > wrote: > >> Hey y'all, >> >> So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... >> >> * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? >> * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? >> * What should the structure look like for what remains? >> >> Here's what we've got to work with. >> >> 1. Axiom (commons) >> 2. Neethi (commons) >> 3. XmlSchema (commons) >> 4. Tcpmon (commons) >> 5. Guththila (commons) >> 6. JaxMe >> 7. jUDDI >> 8. Scout >> 9. Muse >> 10.Woden >> 11.WSIF >> 12.WSS4J >> 13.XMLRPC >> >> Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much >> inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with >> proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. >> >> I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together >> > to a > >> new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? >> That seems reasonable to me. We've been working fairly independently from the other ws projects for a while now and Scout and jUDDI are tightly related to eachother. --Kurt >> Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that >> migrate to Axis. >> >> Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? >> >> Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and >> Tcpmon >> as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, >> > though, > >> since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of commonly >> useful >> WS components. I know other ideas have been discussed for the commons >> stuff, >> so let's start that discussion and get the various opinions out on the >> table? >> >> That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? As for >> > WSS4J, > >> I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. >> >> So... what do you guys think? >> >> Thanks, >> --Glen >> >> P.S. Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report for >> > this > >> month if appropriate! >> From annmcdonald@example.com Fri Apr 16 15:36:25 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 99675 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17461 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:22 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 16971 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 16962 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:36:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of annmcdonald@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO mail-vw0-f49.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:36:15 +0000 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1049505vws.22 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=GdfkrbKvNg8UveaOLjKsA03DFk0kjlPCtXXZkytb6Ek=; b=byOsB0pPtEt2Gmom44VY69SR31JeuBpnMyVCpzs7NnHFWQnOMZm/p6Azt6FSZOka46 m1NCMi8nlM65uXDkIdrYq59NqbB/qoLV2E8mFPhjk6uqzBEo4W44QfW0x+9+wu1kZbw5 k+ryDnB3awuc8aJLkK3x9i1mrh7QfIxKdkTIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=v4qXu1CM4kETQkdSfq2AgbvL6JqHmG7WH2JZOFpsT8MK1G8K/3CdGIMAuDb1XoNqS3 CcF8JnCKddKCHW7mLqZA7MVc6Fa43zTNDYbKJsK6EDm8XIKOm3jcnpGc5Tn+U6Ex8cjG IslXU2vlCIBVJap8bQo4cydJwZWN00STBNJbw= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id w18mr1077816vcr.176.1271432154548; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (mobile-166-137-137-246.mycingular.net [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z13sm3885123vco.18.283.161.120.155.35.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:35:53 -0700 (PDT) References: <annmcdonald@example.com> <eeff0f2fff3d58badea32aea04b5afb3@localhost> Message-Id: <annmcdonald@example.com> From: Benson Margulies <annmcdonald@example.com> To: "annmcdonald@example.com" <annmcdonald@example.com> In-Reply-To: <eeff0f2fff3d58badea32aea04b5afb3@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:35:41 -0400 Cc: "<annmcdonald@example.com>" <annmcdonald@example.com> I am on vacation. expect a few remarks on xmlschema next week. On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> wrote: > > Hm, mostly crickets chirping. > > Should we just Attic everything then? :) > > --G > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:08:17 -0400, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com > > > wrote: >> Hey y'all, >> >> So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... >> >> * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? >> * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? >> * What should the structure look like for what remains? >> >> Here's what we've got to work with. >> >> 1. Axiom (commons) >> 2. Neethi (commons) >> 3. XmlSchema (commons) >> 4. Tcpmon (commons) >> 5. Guththila (commons) >> 6. JaxMe >> 7. jUDDI >> 8. Scout >> 9. Muse >> 10.Woden >> 11.WSIF >> 12.WSS4J >> 13.XMLRPC >> >> Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much >> inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling >> with >> proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the >> Attic. >> >> I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate >> together > to a >> new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? >> >> Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest >> that >> migrate to Axis. >> >> Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? >> >> Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, >> and >> Tcpmon >> as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, > though, >> since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of commonly >> useful >> WS components. I know other ideas have been discussed for the >> commons >> stuff, >> so let's start that discussion and get the various opinions out on >> the >> table? >> >> That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? As for > WSS4J, >> I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. >> >> So... what do you guys think? >> >> Thanks, >> --Glen >> >> P.S. Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report >> for > this >> month if appropriate! From annmcdonald@example.com Fri Apr 16 15:36:56 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 785 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 15:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18701 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:53 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 18133 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 18125 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2010 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:36:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=10.0 tests=AWL,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO server.dankulp.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:36:46 +0000 Received: by server.dankulp.com (Postfix, from userid 5000) id 0819A2079D5D; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:36:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr2 (2007-05-02) on server.dankulp.com X-Spam-Level: X-Msg-File: /tmp/mailfilter.v6dLoRUp5N Received: from dilbert.localnet (c-24-91-141-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [83.161.120.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.dankulp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A07C2079490; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:36:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kulp <annmcdonald@example.com> To: annmcdonald@example.com Subject: Re: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:36:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.33-gentoo; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> References: <annmcdonald@example.com> In-Reply-To: <annmcdonald@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <annmcdonald@example.com> X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr2 I don't have a binding vote, but my thoughts..... (one more thing you MIGHT want to consider is contacting the 100+ committer/PMC members and finding which could be made emeritus to cut down the list a little bit) On Wednesday 14 April 2010 11:08:17 pm Glen Daniels wrote: > Hey y'all, > > So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... > > * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? > * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? > * What should the structure look like for what remains? > > Here's what we've got to work with. > > 1. Axiom (commons) > 2. Neethi (commons) > 3. XmlSchema (commons) > 4. Tcpmon (commons) > 5. Guththila (commons) > 6. JaxMe > 7. jUDDI > 8. Scout > 9. Muse > 10.Woden > 11.WSIF > 12.WSS4J > 13.XMLRPC > > Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much > inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with > proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. That makes sense to me. > I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together to a > new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? +1 > Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that > migrate to Axis. +1 > Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? As long as there are people using it that may require some fixes or support and someone is willing to support them if required, keeping it in WS for now is probably OK. There was another project (Excalibur) that recently discussed this and came to the same conclusion. > Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and > Tcpmon as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, > though, since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of > commonly useful WS components. +1 > I know other ideas have been discussed for > the commons stuff, so let's start that discussion and get the various > opinions out on the table? > > That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? +1 > As for WSS4J, I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. > So... what do you guys think? Hmmm... I don't think there really is enough there for TLP. Another "idea" MAY be to merge it into Santuario with the thought that a closer collaboration with the lower level libraries may yield some interesting results. That said, I don't think the Santuario community is exactly the most healthy at this point either so definitely a concern about that as well. I guess keeping it in WS makes sense. -- Daniel Kulp annmcdonald@example.com http://dankulp.com/blog From annmcdonald@example.com Fri Apr 16 16:06:58 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 12960 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 16:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 16:06:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 62717 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 16:00:16 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 62201 invoked by uid 500); 16 Apr 2010 16:00:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 62193 invoked by uid 99); 16 Apr 2010 16:00:15 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:00:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of annmcdonald@example.com designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO mail-yx0-f183.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:00:10 +0000 Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so1728452yxe.0 for <annmcdonald@example.com>; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bvcOAIoU419On+f7sv0VFlYWX67ynEhevtIdVe1+MY4=; b=Q/2XTr+MUsG+pHcgsJnhtKN3Bsvnm1haJPwYXTnd4Zi9TxdToIS7/q+BmAOmyoK2xm i0kKQqGg8alZ0vEaxScCJXLcl/UtOsLY1qR1cR1V/SdouBupLDU5KiU4OrHHl6mjebE3 H9r+lyku1x/HRx6D0GogntP/USkd+OTBRopqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ojwHBh7K09zYnl9S+ddRNzbut2hN3s3jDKAO6XF2kxQSdnIg+dGlDkb8WcbFrp00Pb TXMTJ9xU1cyf4eJeP/D2bkwHKOXfntmJrjTnoSI5eZMniUAElwxSdzexxfmspx66fm30 PAYFooCb9ElgD1ODQ0GanHiTwr8Fd6ved0eTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <annmcdonald@example.com> References: <annmcdonald@example.com> <annmcdonald@example.com> From: Sagara Gunathunga <annmcdonald@example.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:29:29 +0530 Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id 24mr3973927anv.3.1271433589631; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <annmcdonald@example.com> Subject: Re: What's next for WS@Apache? Discuss. To: annmcdonald@example.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642de1c772a9504845cb39a --0016e642de1c772a9504845cb39a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Daniel Kulp <annmcdonald@example.com> wrote: > > I don't have a binding vote, but my thoughts..... > > (one more thing you MIGHT want to consider is contacting the 100+ > committer/PMC members and finding which could be made emeritus to cut down > the > list a little bit) > > On Wednesday 14 April 2010 11:08:17 pm Glen Daniels wrote: > > Hey y'all, > > > > So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... > > > > * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? > > * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? > > * What should the structure look like for what remains? > > > > Here's what we've got to work with. > > > > 1. Axiom (commons) > > 2. Neethi (commons) > > 3. XmlSchema (commons) > > 4. Tcpmon (commons) > > 5. Guththila (commons) > > 6. JaxMe > > 7. jUDDI > > 8. Scout > > 9. Muse > > 10.Woden > > 11.WSIF > > 12.WSS4J > > 13.XMLRPC > > > > Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much > > inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with > > proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. > > That makes sense to me. > > > > I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together to > a > > new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? > > +1 > > > > Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that > > migrate to Axis. > > +1 > > > > Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? > > As long as there are people using it that may require some fixes or support > and someone is willing to support them if required, keeping it in WS for > now > is probably OK. There was another project (Excalibur) that recently > discussed this and came to the same conclusion. > > > Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and > > Tcpmon as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, > > though, since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of > > commonly useful WS components. > > +1 > > > I know other ideas have been discussed for > > the commons stuff, so let's start that discussion and get the various > > opinions out on the table? > > > > That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? > > +1 > + 1 to keep Woden under WS. Also I think it's time to modify WS PMC after these changes. Thanks, > > > As for WSS4J, I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. > > So... what do you guys think? > > Hmmm... I don't think there really is enough there for TLP. Another > "idea" > MAY be to merge it into Santuario with the thought that a closer > collaboration > with the lower level libraries may yield some interesting results. That > said, I don't think the Santuario community is exactly the most healthy at > this point either so definitely a concern about that as well. I guess > keeping it in WS makes sense. > > > -- > Daniel Kulp > annmcdonald@example.com > http://dankulp.com/blog > -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ --0016e642de1c772a9504845cb39a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Daniel = Kulp <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:annmcdonald@example.com">dkulp@apache= .org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bo= rder-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding= -left: 1ex;"> <br> I don&#39;t have a binding vote, but my thoughts.....<br> <br> (one more thing you MIGHT want to consider is contacting the 100+<br> committer/PMC members and finding which could be made emeritus to cut down = the<br> list a little bit)<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> On Wednesday 14 April 2010 11:08:17 pm Glen Daniels wrote:<br> &gt; Hey y&#39;all,<br> &gt;<br> &gt; So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about...<b= r> &gt;<br> &gt; * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs?<br> &gt; * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic?<br> &gt; * What should the structure look like for what remains?<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Here&#39;s what we&#39;ve got to work with.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; 1. Axiom (commons)<br> &gt; 2. Neethi (commons)<br> &gt; 3. XmlSchema (commons)<br> &gt; 4. Tcpmon (commons)<br> &gt; 5. Guththila (commons)<br> &gt; 6. JaxMe<br> &gt; 7. jUDDI<br> &gt; 8. Scout<br> &gt; 9. Muse<br> &gt; 10.Woden<br> &gt; 11.WSIF<br> &gt; 12.WSS4J<br> &gt; 13.XMLRPC<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Let&#39;s talk Attic first. =C2=A0It seems WSIF and Muse have been pre= tty much<br> &gt; inactive for some time now, so I&#39;d propose we get the ball rolling= with<br> &gt; proposals to Attic both of those. =C2=A0JaxMe also seems ripe for the = Attic.<br> <br> </div>That makes sense to me.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> <br> &gt; I think that it&#39;s pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate toge= ther to a<br> &gt; new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. =C2=A0Thoughts?<br> <br> </div>+1<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> <br> &gt; Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? =C2=A0If not, I&#39;d su= ggest that<br> &gt; migrate to Axis.<br> <br> </div>+1<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> <br> &gt; Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? =C2=A0Jochen?<br> <br> </div>As long as there are people using it that may require some fixes or s= upport<br> and someone is willing to support them if required, keeping it in WS for no= w<br> is probably OK. =C2=A0 =C2=A0There was another project (Excalibur) that rec= ently<br> discussed this and came to the same conclusion.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> &gt; Personally, I&#39;d probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema,= and<br> &gt; Tcpmon as subprojects of WS. =C2=A0I&#39;d like to get rid of the &quo= t;commons&quot; layer,<br> &gt; though, since I think the &quot;new&quot; WS project should itself be = a set of<br> &gt; commonly useful WS components.<br> <br> </div>+1<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> &gt; I know other ideas have been discussed for<br> &gt; the commons stuff, so let&#39;s start that discussion and get the vari= ous<br> &gt; opinions out on the table?<br> &gt;<br> &gt; That leaves Woden and WSS4J. =C2=A0Maybe Woden should stay in WS?<br> <br> </div>+1<br></blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div><br>=C2=A0 + 1=C2=A0 to keep= Woden under WS. <br><br>=C2=A0 Also I think it&#39;s time to modify WS PMC= after these changes. <br><br><br><br>Thanks, <br><br>=C2=A0</div><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204)= ; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class=3D"im"><br> &gt; As for WSS4J, I&#39;m not sure if it should stay or become a TLP.<br> &gt; So... what do you guys think?<br> <br> </div>Hmmm... =C2=A0I don&#39;t think there really is enough there for TLP.= =C2=A0 Another &quot;idea&quot;<br> MAY be to merge it into Santuario with the thought that a closer collaborat= ion<br> with the lower level libraries may yield some interesting results. =C2=A0 T= hat<br> said, I don&#39;t think the Santuario community is exactly the most healthy= at<br> this point either so definitely a concern about that as well. =C2=A0 =C2=A0= I guess<br> keeping it in WS makes sense.<br> <font color=3D"#888888"><br> <br> --<br> Daniel Kulp<br> <a href=3D"mailto:annmcdonald@example.com">annmcdonald@example.com</a><br> <a href=3D"http://dankulp.com/blog" target=3D"_blank">http://dankulp.com/bl= og</a><br> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Sagara Gunathung= a <br><br>Blog - <a href=3D"http://ssagara.blogspot.com">http://ssagara.blo= gspot.com</a><br>Web - <a href=3D"http://people.apache.org/~sagara/">http:/= /people.apache.org/~sagara/</a><br> --0016e642de1c772a9504845cb39a-- From annmcdonald@example.com Sat Apr 17 02:39:48 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 73072 invoked from network); 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Discuss. From: Supun Kamburugamuva <annmcdonald@example.com> To: annmcdonald@example.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d3195354349048465a2f0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0016364d3195354349048465a2f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Guththila is a module of Axis2/C project. Guththila code is in the Axis2/C code base. So we can remove it from the commons. Thanks, Supun.. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Glen Daniels <annmcdonald@example.com> wrote: > Hey y'all, > > So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about... > > * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs? > * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic? > * What should the structure look like for what remains? > > Here's what we've got to work with. > > 1. Axiom (commons) > 2. Neethi (commons) > 3. XmlSchema (commons) > 4. Tcpmon (commons) > 5. Guththila (commons) > 6. JaxMe > 7. jUDDI > 8. Scout > 9. Muse > 10.Woden > 11.WSIF > 12.WSS4J > 13.XMLRPC > > Let's talk Attic first. It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much > inactive for some time now, so I'd propose we get the ball rolling with > proposals to Attic both of those. JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic. > > I think that it's pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together to a > new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. Thoughts? > > Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? If not, I'd suggest that > migrate to Axis. > > Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? Jochen? > > Personally, I'd probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and > Tcpmon > as subprojects of WS. I'd like to get rid of the "commons" layer, though, > since I think the "new" WS project should itself be a set of commonly > useful > WS components. I know other ideas have been discussed for the commons > stuff, > so let's start that discussion and get the various opinions out on the > table? > > That leaves Woden and WSS4J. Maybe Woden should stay in WS? As for WSS4J, > I'm not sure if it should stay or become a TLP. > > So... what do you guys think? > > Thanks, > --Glen > > P.S. Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report for this > month if appropriate! > -- Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc http://wso2.org supunk.blogspot.com --0016364d3195354349048465a2f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guththila is a module of Axis2/C project. Guththila code is in the Axis2/C = code base. So we can remove it from the commons.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,= </div><div>Supun..</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 15,= 2010 at 8:38 AM, Glen Daniels <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:glen= @thoughtcraft.com">annmcdonald@example.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hey y&#39;all,<br> <br> So as per my earlier mail to the dev lists, we need to talk about...<br> <br> * Which subprojects should be promoted to TLPs?<br> * Which subprojects should be migrated to the Attic?<br> * What should the structure look like for what remains?<br> <br> Here&#39;s what we&#39;ve got to work with.<br> <br> 1. Axiom (commons)<br> 2. Neethi (commons)<br> 3. XmlSchema (commons)<br> 4. Tcpmon (commons)<br> 5. Guththila (commons)<br> 6. JaxMe<br> 7. jUDDI<br> 8. Scout<br> 9. Muse<br> 10.Woden<br> 11.WSIF<br> 12.WSS4J<br> 13.XMLRPC<br> <br> Let&#39;s talk Attic first. =A0It seems WSIF and Muse have been pretty much= <br> inactive for some time now, so I&#39;d propose we get the ball rolling with= <br> proposals to Attic both of those. =A0JaxMe also seems ripe for the Attic.<b= r> <br> I think that it&#39;s pretty clear jUDDI and Scout should migrate together = to a<br> new TLP, Apache jUDDI, with Kurt as chair. =A0Thoughts?<br> <br> Does anyone outside of Axis2/C use Guththila? =A0If not, I&#39;d suggest th= at<br> migrate to Axis.<br> <br> Is there enough activity on XMLRPC to keep it alive? =A0Jochen?<br> <br> Personally, I&#39;d probably prefer to leave Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema, and = Tcpmon<br> as subprojects of WS. =A0I&#39;d like to get rid of the &quot;commons&quot;= layer, though,<br> since I think the &quot;new&quot; WS project should itself be a set of comm= only useful<br> WS components. =A0I know other ideas have been discussed for the commons st= uff,<br> so let&#39;s start that discussion and get the various opinions out on the = table?<br> <br> That leaves Woden and WSS4J. =A0Maybe Woden should stay in WS? =A0As for WS= S4J,<br> I&#39;m not sure if it should stay or become a TLP.<br> <br> So... what do you guys think?<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <font color=3D"#888888">--Glen<br> </font><br> P.S. =A0Reminder - please fill out your sections of our board report for th= is<br> month if appropriate!<br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Software Engineer, WSO2= Inc<br><a href=3D"http://wso2.org">http://wso2.org</a><br><a href=3D"http:= //supunk.blogspot.com">supunk.blogspot.com</a><br><br><br> </div> --0016364d3195354349048465a2f0-- From annmcdonald@example.com Sat Apr 17 07:38:05 2010 Return-Path: <annmcdonald@example.com> Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 57996 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2010 07:38:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2010 07:38:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 86408 invoked by uid 500); 17 Apr 2010 07:37:59 -0000 Delivered-To: annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 85924 invoked by uid 500); 17 Apr 2010 07:37:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact annmcdonald@example.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: annmcdonald@example.com list-help: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Post: <mailto:annmcdonald@example.com> List-Id: <general.ws.apache.org> Delivered-To: mailing list annmcdonald@example.com Received: (qmail 85913 invoked by uid 99); 17 Apr 2010 07:37:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:37:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO mail-pv0-f177.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:37:51 +0000 Received: by pvc30 with SMTP id 30so2370452pvc.22 for
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