From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 13:48:57 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 1628 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 13:48:57 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 13:48:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 10700 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 13:48:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10643 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 13:48:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10625 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 13:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 13:48:52 -0000 Received: from franklin ([83.161.120.155]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201134854.XPNY2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@franklin> for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:48:54 -0500 From: "Alex Karasulu" <ydavis@example.org> To: "'Apache Directory Developers List'" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: Logo Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:48:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcO3vVRyXp2AYGp0SGOlP7kwXh/9qgAUyGvw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> Message-Id: <20031201134854.XPNY2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@franklin> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Slightly more seriously, I also see ldap directories as much more general > than just "config or identity knowledge stores." It might also be nice to > capture some of Eve's embeddability in the logo -- i.e., part of what Eve > is enabling is lots of distributed trees instead of one great big central > "definitive source." I would agree with you whole heartedly its like a forrest of trees in fact. Actually that triangle fractal does make a good point about a bunch of trees making a bigger tree and so on recursively. Now with regard to Aspen it sounds like a good runner up but I'm still going to stick to Eve. That's the name we have been using for over 7 months now for this new architecture. However I don't mind using the aspen tree system as a logo instead of a name. I'm still a +1 on Eve with Aspen (even though I like it) on the menu. Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 14:12:34 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 12663 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:12:34 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 44530 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:12:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 44470 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:12:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 44457 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vmmr9.verisignmail.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:12:30 -0000 Received: from ms8.verisignmail.com (ms8.verisignmail.com [83.161.120.155] (may be forged)) by vmmr9.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PNO06575; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ms8.verisignmail.com (localhost.verisignmail.com [83.161.120.155]) by ms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AKH03043; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:12:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> Received: from 83.161.120.155 by ms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:12:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:12:28 -0500 From: Robb Penoyer <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) To: Apache Directory Developers List <ydavis@example.org> Cc: Apache Directory Developers List <ydavis@example.org> Reply-To: ydavis@example.org X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.2-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N [X ] Keep the name "Eve" [ ] Use the name "Apache Directory Server" [ ] Use the name "ldapd" (which conflicts with a dead OpenLDAP server) From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 14:19:03 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 17864 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:19:02 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:19:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 52314 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:18:59 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 52277 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:18:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 52264 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO logictrends.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:18:58 -0000 Received: from 83.161.120.155 [83.161.120.155] by logictrends.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id AF873819028A; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:26:15 -0500 From: Wes McKean <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Logic Trends To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:17:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <ydavis@example.org> In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I honestly thought "Eve" was a technology branch or version of our LDAP server, and not the actual name of the project itself. [X ] Keep the name "Eve" [ ] Use the name "Apache Directory Server" [ ] Use the name "ldapd" (which conflicts with a dead OpenLDAP server) Wes From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 15:10:27 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 57889 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:10:27 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:10:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10776 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:10:22 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10732 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:10:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10719 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:10:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:10:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 382 for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:10:16 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Wes McKean wrote: > I honestly thought "Eve" was a technology branch or version of our LDAP > server, and not the actual name of the project itself. Same here. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 15:40:23 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 77702 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:40:23 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 56129 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:40:18 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 56086 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:40:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 56072 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:40:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.messagelabs.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:40:17 -0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: ydavis@example.org X-Msg-Ref: server-27.tower-15.messagelabs.com!1070293207!6383601 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=-,-,- Received: (qmail 3299 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:40:08 -0000 Received: from diquil.merc-int.com (HELO merc-int.com) (83.161.120.155) by server-27.tower-15.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:40:08 -0000 Received: from sunexbh01.merc-int.com (sunexbh01.merc-int.com [83.161.120.155]) by merc-int.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id hB1Fe7X15877 for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:40:07 -0800 Received: by sunexbh01.merc-int.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <R7JDLRNF>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:40:07 -0800 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> From: Tim Walker <ydavis@example.org> To: "'Apache Directory Developers List'" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:40:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Paul you said... >>[ ] Use the name "ldapd" (which conflicts with a dead OpenLDAP server) I need a status update. I was under the impression this (Apache Directory) was the ldapd project (especially since both have a SEDA implementation, etc.) Can someone please give me a quick update/diary of this project? Thanks, -- Tim From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 16:45:43 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10005 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 16:45:43 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 16:45:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 91607 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 16:45:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 91569 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 16:45:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 91546 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 16:45:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 16:45:36 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:45:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:45:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> > Wes McKean wrote: > > I honestly thought "Eve" was a technology branch or version of our LDAP > > server, and not the actual name of the project itself. > > Same here. > Yes the new architecture for the server is the Eve architecture. However the ldapd folks pre-incubator had discussed the ldapd confusion with the deceased OpenLDAP X.500 LDAP frontend which is called ldapd. So we basically want to call the server Eve' similar to the way the email server is called James. Anyway I think Noel is the only one with a slight reservation about using the name Eve. We have a +1 from the following folks Wes Robb Jeff Alex (me) Phil Steve Noel with your blessing let's stick to Eve for now. If we find a better name let's take a revote. I and others love Eve, however I think we're all open to change. I want you to be cool with it for the interim even though we have the votes. Again I love the name and would be disappointed to see it go, but I don't want it to bother anyone on the team. The team comes first and you helped get us here so you have my respect. What do you say? Let's lay this to rest and resusitate if and when a better option comes along. Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 17:03:20 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 20313 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 17:03:20 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 17:03:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28358 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 17:03:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 28287 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 17:03:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 28274 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 17:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 17:03:12 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:03:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:03:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > From: Tim Walker <ydavis@example.org> > Date: 2003/12/01 Mon AM 10:40:06 EST > To: "'Apache Directory Developers List'" > <ydavis@example.org> > Subject: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) > > > Paul you said... > > >>[ ] Use the name "ldapd" (which conflicts with a dead OpenLDAP server) > > I need a status update. I was under the impression this (Apache Directory) was the ldapd project (especially > since both have a SEDA implementation, etc.) Can someone please give me a quick update/diary of this project? > Tim, This directory project contains and subsumes the LDAPd project that was built and maintained by the LDAPd ydavis@example.org. A long, long time ago OpenLDAP had an LDAP X.500 frontend (LDAP server that just talked to an X.500 server to get data) in C that was called ldapd. That was the name of the UNIX daemon. We want to avoid confusion with this name although not much confusion resulted over it in the past. We just want to be extra careful. The LDAPd Group no longer exists. The directory peeps are a combination of the old LDAPd Group peeps and some Apache peeps. We have combined forces to offer up naming/directory access clients, API's and servers to the open source community together as one team. So when this project graduates from the incubator there will be a top level apache project and domain at http://directory.apache.org. Here you'll be able to get the new version of what was previously called LDAPd on sf.net and the new servers name will be Eve rather than (LDAPd) once the vote completes. I hope this clears up the issues for you. Basically you can hope to see a better product soon from the Apache Directory Project. Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 17:54:12 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 48823 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 17:54:12 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 17:54:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24758 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 17:54:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24717 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 17:54:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24704 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 17:54:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 17:54:04 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 506 for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Alex Karasulu wrote: > Anyway I think Noel is the only one with a slight reservation > about using the name Eve. We have a +1 from the following folks > <clip/> > Noel with your blessing let's stick to Eve for now. If we > find a better name let's take a revote. I and others > love Eve, however I think we're all open to change. I want > you to be cool with it for the interim even though we have > the votes. You don't need my blessing. As you said: > The team comes first The fact that: > [I] helped get us here so [I] have [your] respect is nice, but the point is that this is a Community decision. AFAICS, the name isn't problematic, e.g., someone else's trademark. If the Community votes for "Eve", then that's the name. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 19:29:38 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 95829 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 19:29:38 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 19:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 78414 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 19:29:28 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 78372 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 19:29:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 78339 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 19:29:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 19:29:23 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:29:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:29:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ok you're right but thanks anyway. I guess Eve sticks for now. It's official. Alex > > From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> > Date: 2003/12/01 Mon PM 12:53:16 EST > To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> > Subject: RE: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) > > Alex Karasulu wrote: > > Anyway I think Noel is the only one with a slight reservation > > about using the name Eve. We have a +1 from the following folks > > <clip/> > > Noel with your blessing let's stick to Eve for now. If we > > find a better name let's take a revote. I and others > > love Eve, however I think we're all open to change. I want > > you to be cool with it for the interim even though we have > > the votes. > > You don't need my blessing. As you said: > > > The team comes first > > The fact that: > > > [I] helped get us here so [I] have [your] respect > > is nice, but the point is that this is a Community decision. AFAICS, the > name isn't problematic, e.g., someone else's trademark. If the Community > votes for "Eve", then that's the name. > > --- Noel > > From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Mon Dec 01 19:46:02 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 6938 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 19:46:01 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 19:46:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22348 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 19:45:47 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 22255 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 19:45:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 21670 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 19:45:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 19:45:41 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 196; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ydavis@example.org> Cc: "Apache Infrastructure" <ydavis@example.org>, <ydavis@example.org>, "James-Dev Mailing List" <ydavis@example.org>, <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: Status of Apache Wiki Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:45:37 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I'll want to check see about either using the Incubator Wiki > > or a project-specific Wiki for the Directory project. > IMHO the choice is clear: having a project-specific separate wiki. OK. I'll create it later today. I believe that the correct command will be: addwiki --title 'Apache Directory Project' \ --inter 'ApacheDirectory' \ --commit-mails 'ydavis@example.org' directory When the project exits incubation, we'll only have to change the commit address. While I am at it, I can also create the Avalon and James Wikis. They will be blank, but ready to start importing pages from Leo's migration script. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 00:49:48 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 39503 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 00:49:47 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 00:49:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 449 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 00:49:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 385 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 00:49:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 371 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 00:49:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 00:49:31 -0000 Received: from isengard ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031202004938.YNXD1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@isengard> for <ydavis@example.org>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:49:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:54:00 -0400 References: <ydavis@example.org> X-Mailer: Groupwise 6.0 Message-ID: <20031201T195447Z_FFB700000000> From: Craig S. Connell<ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: [vote] Eve: LDAP Server Name (Was Logo) To: ydavis@example.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I suppose I am late to the game here (was out of town for a while) .. but = here is my vote: [X ] Keep the name "Eve" [ ] Use the name "Apache Directory Server" [ ] Use the name "ldapd" (which conflicts with a dead=20 OpenLDAP server) From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 01:05:01 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 46290 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 01:05:01 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 01:05:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25145 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 01:04:41 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24958 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 01:04:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24500 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 01:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 01:04:36 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 572; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:04:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Cc: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: SVN repository Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:04:34 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > I'm a bit out of context here, so if you explain a bit what I have to do > I'll do my best to be as fast as possible. See /x1/svn/asf-authorization. You need to make a few changes. Add: directory=noel,jmachols,psteitz to the [groups] element. You'll need to add yourself to asf-committers file, and then add yourself above. You would do that as: ~noel/htpasswd /x1/svn/asf-committers nicolaken and entering a password (NOT your ASF account password). When others get around to adding themselves to asf-committers, they'll have to ask you to add them to the directory group. Next, add the following section: [/incubator/directory] @directory = rw at the end of asf-authorization. That ought to do it, although I am sure that one of the Subversion admins can correct me if I got any part of it wrong. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 03:19:23 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 96100 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 03:19:23 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 03:19:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25717 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 03:19:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 25657 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 03:19:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 25245 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 03:19:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO suntzu.lyra.org) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 03:19:00 -0000 Received: (from gstein@localhost) by suntzu.lyra.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hB23Gkk30039; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:16:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: suntzu.lyra.org: gstein set sender to ydavis@example.org using -f Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:16:46 -0800 From: Greg Stein <ydavis@example.org> To: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> Cc: Apache Directory Developers List <ydavis@example.org>, ydavis@example.org Subject: Re: SVN repository Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> References: <ydavis@example.org> <ydavis@example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/83.161.120.155i In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org>; from ydavis@example.org on Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:04:34PM -0500 X-URL: http://www.lyra.org/greg/ X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:04:34PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > I'm a bit out of context here, so if you explain a bit what I have to do > > I'll do my best to be as fast as possible. > > See /x1/svn/asf-authorization. You need to make a few changes. > > Add: > > directory=noel,jmachols,psteitz > > to the [groups] element. Done. >... > Next, add the following section: > > [/incubator/directory] > @directory = rw > > at the end of asf-authorization. Done. As people add themselves to asf-committers, then the [groups] line for the directory group can simply be edited to add those people. Anybody in the cvsadmin group (grep cvsadmin /etc/group) can do this. This always includes the PMC Chair (e.g. Nicola Ken) plus a number of others on infrastructure@. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 03:57:14 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 10698 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 03:57:13 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 03:57:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 93616 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 03:56:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 93382 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 03:56:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 93193 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 03:56:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc11.comcast.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 03:56:37 -0000 Received: from jeffup31h80r4e (c-24-129-72-56.se.client2.attbi.com[83.161.120.155]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120203564601100npr68e>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:56:46 +0000 From: "Jeff Machols" <ydavis@example.org> To: "'Apache Directory Developers List'" <ydavis@example.org> Cc: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: SVN repository Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:58:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcO4gxDifOy/vSatTWOoaUAoAn8j8AABVn+g X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:04:34PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > I'm a bit out of context here, so if you explain a bit what I have to > do > > > I'll do my best to be as fast as possible. > > > > See /x1/svn/asf-authorization. You need to make a few changes. > > > > Add: > > > > directory=noel,jmachols,psteitz > > > > to the [groups] element. > > Done. > > >... > > Next, add the following section: > > > > [/incubator/directory] > > @directory = rw > > > > at the end of asf-authorization. > > Done. What is the URI for this repo? Thanks Jeff From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 04:07:34 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 15969 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 04:07:33 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 04:07:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4274 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 04:07:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 4154 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 04:07:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 3833 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 04:07:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 04:07:07 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 330; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Cc: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: SVN repository Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:07:08 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <414362.1070337423858.JavaMail.root@ALR7210> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > What is the URI for this repo? http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ Our directory is incubator/directory. I'm not sure, but we may need to have someone create the parent entries for us. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:00:50 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 98456 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:00:50 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9952 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:00:42 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 9887 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:00:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 9865 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:00:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:00:41 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Front end redesign Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Wes, Peter, I've been playing around with some of the things you guys were talking about concerning NIO. I started reformulating a new design to the server with NIO in mind and with less interdependence between components in the server using a better event manager. I know I could incorporate Wes's changes and Peter's suggestings into a front end redesign within days and have started to do that to some degree. However I would like to openly redesign the front end together rather than forging ahead. This will cost some time however it will make sure that we have the right design. Ultimately this design can be used for any state-full protocol server that is SEDA based. What do you say? Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:06:07 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 1186 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:06:07 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:06:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25036 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:05:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24984 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:05:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 24970 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:05:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:05:58 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Guys is it worth getting an IRC channel on freenode.net? Or are folks opposed to that sort of thing. This is just a feeler to see if there is any interest. I know it may cause problems with tracking things but perhaps we can find ways around that. Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:08:09 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 2216 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:09 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:08:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27954 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 27885 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 27871 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO logictrends.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:08:00 -0000 Received: from 83.161.120.155 [83.161.120.155] by logictrends.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6B9372E0282; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:15:21 -0500 From: Wes McKean <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Logic Trends To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: Front end redesign Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <ydavis@example.org> In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I'm all for it. Tell us what you have in mind... Wes On Tuesday 02 December 2003 01:00 pm, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Wes, Peter, > > I've been playing around with some of the things you guys were > talking about concerning NIO. I started reformulating a new > design to the server with NIO in mind and with less interdependence > between components in the server using a better event manager. > > I know I could incorporate Wes's changes and Peter's suggestings > into a front end redesign within days and have started to do that > to some degree. However I would like to openly redesign the front > end together rather than forging ahead. This will cost some time > however it will make sure that we have the right design. Ultimately > this design can be used for any state-full protocol server that > is SEDA based. > > What do you say? > > Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:08:33 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 2414 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:33 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:08:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28781 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:25 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 28736 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 28723 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO logictrends.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:08:25 -0000 Received: from 83.161.120.155 [83.161.120.155] by logictrends.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6D237300282; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:15:46 -0500 From: Wes McKean <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Logic Trends To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:07:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <ydavis@example.org> In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N It's OK with me. I use Gaim, so it should handle IRC as well... Wes On Tuesday 02 December 2003 01:06 pm, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Guys is it worth getting an IRC channel on freenode.net? > Or are folks opposed to that sort of thing. This is just > a feeler to see if there is any interest. I know it may > cause problems with tracking things but perhaps we can find > ways around that. > > Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:09:39 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 2942 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:09:39 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 30040 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:09:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 30004 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:09:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 29990 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:09:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc12.comcast.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:09:30 -0000 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (unknown[83.161.120.155]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120218093301200c3ueie> (Authid: jmachols); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:09:33 +0000 Subject: Code Freeze and import into subversion for LDAP code From: Jeff Machols <ydavis@example.org> To: Apache Directory Developers List <ydavis@example.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070388571.25291.25.camel@jefflinux> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:09:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N All, It looks like the incubator/directory subversion repository is up. Since it appears there has been no activity today on the sourceforge CVS repo, I would like to use last nights tarball for the migration. Please let me know if this is a problem for anyone. While this is going on, there can be no changes to either the sourceforge repository or the new subversion apache repository. The following changes will be made to the layout: 1. The top layer module name will have the ldapd- stripped off 2. All the ldap modules will reside in /incubator/directory/ldap 3. The src/java/ldapd directories will be /src/java/org/apache/ldap 4. All package names and imports within the code will be changed to match the new layout I will let everyone know when this is done. In the meantime, if you have not done so, I would recommend getting subversion for you favorite OS and getting familiar with it. You can try subversion against the test repo for now. The URI is http://cvs.apache.org/repos/test (svn co http://cvs.apache.org/repos/test) Also, make sure you have added yourself to the commit list: ~noel/htpasswd /x1/svn/asf-committers username Jeff From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 18:14:06 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 5039 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:14:06 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:14:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 33922 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:13:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 33879 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 18:13:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 33865 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 633 for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:13:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:13:48 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Guys is it worth getting an IRC channel on freenode.net? > Or are folks opposed to that sort of thing. If we do it for developent discussions, I would like to see it logged, with a copy of the log mailed daily to the mailing list. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 19:08:16 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 27981 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 19:08:16 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 19:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 36572 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 19:08:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 36524 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 19:08:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 36459 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 19:08:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 19:08:03 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:08:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: Code Freeze and import into subversion for LDAP code Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:08:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > It looks like the incubator/directory subversion repository is up. > Since it appears there has been no activity today on the sourceforge CVS > repo, I would like to use last nights tarball for the migration. Please > let me know if this is a problem for anyone. While this is going on, Cool just let us know when the import is done. Alex From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 19:09:55 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 28607 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 19:09:55 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 19:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 40863 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 19:09:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 40817 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 19:09:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 40804 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 19:09:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 19:09:46 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:09:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Re: RE: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:09:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Good idea. Let's see if we can get this arranged. Alex > > From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> > Date: 2003/12/02 Tue PM 01:13:48 EST > To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> > Subject: RE: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net > > > Guys is it worth getting an IRC channel on freenode.net? > > Or are folks opposed to that sort of thing. > > If we do it for developent discussions, I would like to see it logged, with > a copy of the log mailed daily to the mailing list. > > --- Noel > > From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Tue Dec 02 23:24:50 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 64467 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 23:24:50 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 23:24:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9096 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 23:24:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 9030 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2003 23:24:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 9017 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 23:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.devtech.com) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 23:24:35 -0000 Received: from localhost ([83.161.120.155]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.2.0-dev) with SMTP ID 543 for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:24:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Noel J. Bergman" <ydavis@example.org> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Subject: RE: RE: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: <ydavis@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <ydavis@example.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Good idea. Let's see if we can get [IRC logging] arranged. Infrastructure does not have a bot for this. Ken Coar has worked on one, but I don't believe that it is RFPT. This would be a valid "just do it" for now, and we'll deal with it if/when necessary. However, we do want the bot to announce that the channel is logged when someone enters. So we just need someone to volunteer to do it. --- Noel From directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org Wed Dec 03 00:45:03 2003 Return-Path: <directory-dev-returnydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 99927 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 00:45:02 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 00:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 89389 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 00:44:45 -0000 Delivered-To: ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 89347 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 00:44:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ydavis@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Help: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:ydavis@example.org> List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" <directory-dev.incubator.apache.org> Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <ydavis@example.org> Delivered-To: mailing list ydavis@example.org Received: (qmail 89334 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 00:44:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (83.161.120.155) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 00:44:44 -0000 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([83.161.120.155]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.83.161.120.155 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <ydavis@example.org> for <ydavis@example.org>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:44:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [83.161.120.155] From: Alex Karasulu <ydavis@example.org> Organization: Solarsis Group To: <ydavis@example.org> Subject: Frontend redesign Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:44:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <ydavis@example.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Guys, Here are the topics of discussion: 1). Service decoupling using a centralized event manager service 2). The SEDA stages, events and processing pathway 3). Session handling, identity and synchronization 4). Interactions with server side JNDI provider 1). Service Decoupling Using an EventManager ============================================ First of all it makes sense to use a central event manager as the hub for delivering events from one stage or just one service to another. What do I mean by that? Within the server, SEDA events must be delivered from sources to sinks. Each stage is modeled as a service in the server. Obviously we're going to have the following basic stage flow for handling a state full client's request response sequence: input --> decode --> process | | output <-- encode <------/ These points represent the request processing stages. Now an event in one stage upstream enqueues onto the queue of the stage downstream creating dependencies between these services which are SEDA stages. Hence the request processing pathway looks like one of the service dependency chains within the server. Now this is not a problem if we did not have the other services like the listener and the session manager in the picture which introduce cycles in the dependency graph. These services are not Stages in the SEDA sense but they do emit events that are listened to by other stages. If we use a central event manager to enable communication between all the services through events SEDA based or not then we can turn the dependency graph into a simple tree with the event manager at the root with one level of children. All services have a dependency on the event manager. I realized that this was the direction I wanted to go towards in past designs but I got mixed up in SEDA verses non-SEDA events. At the end of the day it does not matter what the nature of the event is. A central event router or manager can be used to decouple stages and non-stage services. This way we can do away with methods on the service interfaces which really do not need to be exposed. The event handler interfaces are enough for most generic services and for services that are SEDA stages the enqueue interface method is all you need for these services. However I think its best to hid this and not expose it as a service interface. It is best to use explicit listener interfaces to flag a stage as recieving certain events rather than exposing a generic stage enqueue() method. So I think we should have
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