From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 02:56:12 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 90614 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 02:56:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 02:56:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 99059 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 02:56:05 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 99040 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 02:56:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 99031 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 02:56:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:56:05 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO gv-out-0910.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:55:31 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id r4so1963129gve.22 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:55:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RNBcF1KHQw0ea3dG1WqcrlrtEteYXWx3nt4V/z4GjF4=; b=KXEnzl1yhsyQUS8NwZuvmZNhnNDlgLOcrvB837iNwnxVItr+e33jVIFTZesbBfa+lDG1aRHmDGVubrEJI2VOLQZG1VUNfKijrBce59xiGoli1WE7b+Os493sFR+E21jpYfTXI1UGro0UpuJ/Vt7KtRkRH/mtMpS2gCSW1xVUnw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Oq48uw8sIIfZfDYdVfTi5K7MCBLbzoS/MAOb7ns0wxpnT59z6ZeZHjb5rOpXlDsdF/pO/AdxY9BuRpv9B4ZufL1qeeHI7iwoYoYSJ9nBO43Dpa9u+EWswKB5XsMLNBkR4cDYaGERlBeXoTPiIm9U/DAnIjsxyXtjW8CHgYTK04A= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id f11mr17370ybe.108.1204340138577; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:55:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:55:38 -0600 From: "Nathan Beyer" <vaughneric@example.org> To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: [classlib][build] build class library in release mode with line numbers only. In-Reply-To: <vaughneric@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org It may be too late, but I vote -1 on this change. 1.5M reduction doesn't offset the loss of no longer seeing the local variables during debug. -Nathan On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Gregory Shimansky <vaughneric@example.org> wrote: > Alexey Petrenko said the following on 28.02.2008 16:52: > > > Will Eclipse debug work with the release build of Harmony in this case? > > It will but with absence of local variable tables it probably won't show > local variables in context. > > > > 2008/2/28, Pavel Pervov <vaughneric@example.org>: > >> I would like to propose the following improvement to class library > >> build - build in release with only line number information in .class > >> files. > >> > >> It saves ~1.5MB in jre size. > >> > >> If no objections then I'll commit HARMONY-5558. > >> > >> P.S. The patch in that JIRA introduces switchable compression for jar > >> files containing class library classes. Default mode is kept > >> compressed. > > > -- > Gregory > > From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 03:03:01 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 92186 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 03:03:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 03:03:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 10013 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 03:02:55 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 9981 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 03:02:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 9970 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 03:02:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:02:55 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO gv-out-0910.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:02:18 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id r4so1965051gve.22 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qYHzZXC0w0c6C/ubJ3zzAmiMNWgDJ0IgAWLiUT4yH4c=; b=TfiW33U5xl/8YfqvR4vzQAeFnAT/+lB1xtWWi3KjRhlW12dXIdy0LULfdUrr1uuym6WnY5Mq0eH9KWkDxX/u9ZOLNmDkQ3XPvW9vRw7+FFYhQQuAH3WEtZEkhCeZ6f2Rynyw5r+YTefnvlMrzEr/QLXbGUZjnjyfEEFnTjyDvDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m1Gh0z6Z6+xjt0/mymjb5InzYNvW5qxwse825yuvjV/mOm+vTOgOnRYiM7iDqsjXJciOxGhUZG8tAKzsadEwxk/odS3g5f0vWbAR8h0IGJhsNQJbxpfQs1UPf3+DmK+FZhWNuE+8wniF9mEDJYWphICtGufuvnPGSL4R/aGTl08= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id g5mr3623378yba.20.1204340546204; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:02:26 -0600 From: "Nathan Beyer" <vaughneric@example.org> To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages In-Reply-To: <vaughneric@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change the bit that said "ant XXXX". -Nathan On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> wrote: > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote: > > Gregory Shimansky wrote: > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 6476849437:48: > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about? > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and > > > predecessors for more details. > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that > > you are running on a Harmony JRE. > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here. > > why? > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :) > > -- > Egor Pasko > > From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 03:57:15 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 19669 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 03:57:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 03:57:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 37502 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 03:57:09 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 37470 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 03:57:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 37461 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 03:57:09 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:57:09 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ctb-mesg4.saix.net) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:56:34 +0000 Received: from animal (dsl-243-109-250.telkomadsl.co.za [83.161.120.155]) by ctb-mesg4.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 33E8F2754 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:56:36 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <001101c87b50$3f676540$0300000a@animal> From: "Johnny Kewl" <vaughneric@example.org> To: <vaughneric@example.org> References: <vaughneric@example.org> Subject: Re: help me -build error. Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:56:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080101-0, 2008/01/01), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "liaoyin" <vaughneric@example.org> To: <vaughneric@example.org> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: help me -build error. >I want to build the harmony > I follow the instructions on the web > > I type the commands as follow > > $ ant populate-src > > $ cd working_classlib > $ svn update > > > $ cd working_classlib > $ ant fetch-depends > > then the errors as follow > > BUILD FAILED > C:\trunk\working_classlib\build.xml:282: The following error occurred > while > executing this line: > C:\trunk\working_classlib\make\depends.xml:363: The following error > occurred > while executing this line: > C:\trunk\working_classlib\make\depends.xml:442: ... > > File depends/jars/xerces_2.9.1/xerces.zip has incorrect md5 checksum. > Expected: a0e07ede1c3bd5231fe15eae24032b2e (or ) > Found: 4cdbc6358cb289bb2feea38090406d1c I also got that error, there is something wrong with the download, it cuts off. Download the file in your browser and throw it in then it works?? > > Total time: 5 minutes 53 seconds > > what is wrong? thank you. > From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 04:52:44 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 36155 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 04:52:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 04:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 69969 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 04:52:38 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 69936 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 04:52:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 69927 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 04:52:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:52:38 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ctb-mesg8.saix.net) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:51:50 +0000 Received: from animal (dsl-243-109-250.telkomadsl.co.za [83.161.120.155]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CB292D66 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:52:05 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <002501c87b57$ff9d4fd0$0300000a@animal> From: "Johnny Kewl" <vaughneric@example.org> To: <vaughneric@example.org> Subject: Greetings Earthlings Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:52:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C87B68.C26037C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080101-0, 2008/01/01), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C87B68.C26037C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for letting me join the group... My job is not in IT, although thats my first love, and second, and = third... actually where is my wife? Gee, I stopped using C++ at VC6 and I cant believe how rusty I am, I = hardly recognise it, there was a time when I used to whiz around in WTL... unbelievable. I'm also struggling to get the thing compiled... the C code... I'm = running on XP, running the ant from eclipse and have VS 2005/2008 = installed, it just wont get through that C code. It will say... dont know what sprintf is so I'll jam in <stdlib> then it = will say POSIX _itoa violation... blah blah.. I'm just messing too much with the code for my liking... its already = Harmony "something else". Does anyone here actually work on the MS platform? Am I wasting my time? I know its because MS does its own thing in headers... also get = _WIN_NT_VER conflicts... the libs are trying to got to XP and the code is declaring NT4 ... so not looking = good. Anyway if you know where I'm going wrong... yell ;) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Before I go any further, the thing I'm interested in is seeing if a Java = Lite is possible... my gutt tells me that JVM's in general bulk up too = quickly. 1) How small does one think one can make a JRE... say for example there = was just a JOPtionPane that said "Hello Harmony"... When I look at this and other JRE's... it seems Java bulks up very = quickly, I'm guessing that just to run one line of java, the JRE would = already be sitting at 5 megs... do you also think that is about right? If you think about C++... it more or less it follows a "more application = =3D=3D more engine" rule. JRE's naturally are carrying the "OS", but they dont seem to be able to = do that. The actual native components are not that big... but they still seem to = have to bulk up a lot to run "one line" of Java code. To me thats a great pity... because if a JRE did not have to "bulk = up"... ie it followed a "more application =3D more engine" pattern, then = Java itself would be deliverable... and that would make that JRE very special. 50k application + 500k JRE 100k application + 700k JRE 1000k application + 1500k JRE ... if you see what I'm getting at.. As soon as its 50k application + 15 meg JRE.... we now asking users to = "please" install the JRE separately, and we just hope they can find the = site and know the difference between JDK J2SE and all the rest... a MS user = will probably be in the .Net site totally confused between J# and J2SE = ;) Yes there are installers but imagine 550k... and not 15 megs...=20 So... thats what I'm wondering about and thats why I'm here... 2) Then I got another question... how interchangable are the actual = JRE's.... if I swapped out java.exe for java.with a feather... ie no = class changes... how far would that get? So hopefully I havnt disturbed you too much... and I got so many = questions... I'm holding myself back here ;) But as a user I just wanted to say something... compatability is very = important, but after that, creativity takes precedence over = standardisation... ie as a user if theres an engine that runs my code, and does other cool = things... I dont care where it comes from. So what do you think, possible... or the science just says no? Java Lite = cant be. Java lite is not possible in the current architecture... ??? ...thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C87B68.C26037C0-- From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 09:14:54 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 72480 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 09:14:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 09:14:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 67809 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:14:48 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 67775 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:14:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 67766 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 09:14:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:14:48 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:14:11 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JVNnO-0006yd-Fj for vaughneric@example.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:14:18 +0000 Received: from packo.dialup.corbina.ru ([83.161.120.155]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:14:18 +0000 Received: from egor.pasko by packo.dialup.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:14:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: vaughneric@example.org From: Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> Subject: Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages Date: 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300 Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> References: <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: vaughneric@example.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: packo.dialup.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Sender: news <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote: > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change > the bit that said "ant XXXX". Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz, put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so sorry :) > -Nathan > > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> wrote: > > > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote: > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote: > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 6476849437:48: > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about? > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and > > > > predecessors for more details. > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq > > > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE. > > > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here. > > > > why? > > > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :) > > > > -- > > Egor Pasko > > > > > -- Egor Pasko From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 09:27:41 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 77889 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 09:27:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 09:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 73458 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:27:35 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 73436 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:27:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 73427 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 09:27:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:27:35 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO corwin.easynet.fr) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:26:47 +0000 Received: from [83.161.120.155] (helo=[83.161.120.155]) by corwin.easynet.fr with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <vaughneric@example.org>) id 1JVNz3-0008Bz-Mx for vaughneric@example.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:26:07 +0100 From: Francis ANDRE <vaughneric@example.org> Organization: PAC MPE User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: general: error in build: missing release.properties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 83.161.120.155 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Listeners It seems that build.xml failed because the file release.properties cannot be found. Where is this file?? Thanks for your help FA Z:\DEV\Harmony>ant -Dauto.fetch=true -v Apache Ant version 1.7.0 compiled on December 13 2006 Buildfile: build.xml Detected Java version: 1.5 in: C:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre Detected OS: Windows XP parsing buildfile Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml with URI = file:/Z:/DEV/Harmony/build.xml Project base dir set to: Z:\DEV\Harmony [antlib:org.apache.tools.ant] Could not load definitions from resource org/apache/tools/ant/antlib.x ml. It could not be found. [property] Loading Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties [property] Unable to find property file: Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties [macrodef] creating macro chksum Build sequence for target(s) `default' is [svn-prop, init, show-props, setup, switch-svn-vm, switch- svn-classlib, switch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, populate-src, auto-fetch-classlib-lib s, build-classlib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, build-commonresources, auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, bu ild-jdktools, build-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, assemble-artifacts, assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-h dk-tgz, bundle-hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, bundle-jdk-zip, bundle-jdk, as semble-jre-doc, bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default] Complete build sequence is [svn-prop, init, show-props, setup, switch-svn-vm, switch-svn-classlib, s witch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, populate-src, auto-fetch-classlib-libs, build-classl ib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, build-commonresources, auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, build-jdktools, b uild-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, assemble-artifacts, assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-hdk-tgz, bundle- hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, bundle-jdk-zip, bundle-jdk, assemble-jre-doc, bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default, copy-src, bundle-src-tgz, bundle-src-zip, bund le-src, fetch-vm-libs, fetch-jdktools-libs, assemble-jdk, clean-classlib, init-classlib-hdk, clean-j dktools, clean-vm, clean, reset, fetch-classlib-libs, make-snapshot, ] svn-prop: [exec] Current OS is Windows XP [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.revision.tmp [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: [exec] 'info' [exec] 'build.xml' [exec] [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are [exec] not part of the command. Override ignored for property "svn.revision" [exec] Current OS is Windows XP [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.root.tmp [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: [exec] 'info' [exec] [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are [exec] not part of the command. Override ignored for property "svn.rc" Override ignored for property "svn.info" init: Override ignored for property "harmony.os" Override ignored for property "harmony.bits" Override ignored for property "harmony.arch" Property "hy.javac.compiler" has not been set show-props: [echo] [echo] Apache Harmony Federated Build [echo] ========================================== [echo] svn rev : [echo] operating system : windows [echo] architecture : x86-32 [echo] ant os name/arch : Windows XP/x86 [echo] hosting Java : 1.5.0_09 (Sun Microsystems Inc.) [echo] build mode : release [echo] output location : target [echo] SVN root : http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf [echo] setup: [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target [mkdir] Created dir: Z:\DEV\Harmony\target switch-svn-vm: [exec] Current OS is Windows XP [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: [exec] '-r' [exec] 'switch' [exec] 'http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk' [exec] [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are [exec] not part of the command. [exec] svn: Erreur de syntaxe à l'argument de révision 'switch' BUILD FAILED Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml:509: exec returned: vaughneric@example.org(ExecTask.java:636) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.runExec(ExecTask.java:662) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.execute(ExecTask.java:487) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:288) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor2.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:105) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:357) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:385) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1329) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1298) at org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1181) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:698) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:199) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:257) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:104) Total time: 3 seconds From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 09:39:25 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 80043 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 09:39:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 09:39:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 75944 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:39:19 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 75911 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 09:39:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 75901 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 09:39:19 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:39:19 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:38:32 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JVOB9-00081g-5g for vaughneric@example.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:38:51 +0000 Received: from packo.dialup.corbina.ru ([83.161.120.155]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:38:51 +0000 Received: from egor.pasko by packo.dialup.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:38:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: vaughneric@example.org From: Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> Subject: [drlvm][classloadin] a lot of HashMap$Entry classloading Date: 01 Mar 2008 12:38:45 +0300 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: vaughneric@example.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: packo.dialup.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Sender: news <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org DRLVM gurus, I wonder why: shell> $HY -Xem:jet -Xtrace:classloader Hello 2>&1 | grep 'StartLoading class \[Ljava/util/HashMap$Entry; with loader' | wc -l 1331 is there any quick explanation for lamers like me? :) -- Egor Pasko From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 10:29:41 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 90109 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 10:29:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 10:29:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 99144 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 10:29:36 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 98602 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 10:29:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 98588 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 10:29:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:29:35 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:28:47 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JVOxh-0001cy-Jd for vaughneric@example.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:29:01 +0000 Received: from packo.dialup.corbina.ru ([83.161.120.155]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:29:01 +0000 Received: from egor.pasko by packo.dialup.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:29:01 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: vaughneric@example.org From: Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> Subject: Re: general: error in build: missing release.properties Date: 01 Mar 2008 13:28:54 +0300 Lines: 141 Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> References: <vaughneric@example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: vaughneric@example.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: packo.dialup.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Sender: news <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Francis ANDRE wrote: > Hi Listeners > > It seems that build.xml failed because the file release.properties > cannot be found. Where is this file?? I do not have it either. Maybe you should try with ant 1.6.5 until build gurus are here :) > > Thanks for your help > > FA > > > Z:\DEV\Harmony>ant -Dauto.fetch=true -v > Apache Ant version 1.7.0 compiled on December 13 2006 > Buildfile: build.xml > Detected Java version: 1.5 in: C:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre > Detected OS: Windows XP > parsing buildfile Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml with URI = file:/Z:/DEV/Harmony/build.xml > Project base dir set to: Z:\DEV\Harmony > [antlib:org.apache.tools.ant] Could not load definitions from resource > org/apache/tools/ant/antlib.x > ml. It could not be found. > [property] Loading Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties > [property] Unable to find property file: Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties > [macrodef] creating macro chksum > Build sequence for target(s) `default' is [svn-prop, init, show-props, > setup, switch-svn-vm, switch- > svn-classlib, switch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, > populate-src, auto-fetch-classlib-lib > s, build-classlib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, > build-commonresources, auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, bu > ild-jdktools, build-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, > assemble-artifacts, assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-h > dk-tgz, bundle-hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, > bundle-jdk-zip, bundle-jdk, as > semble-jre-doc, bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default] > Complete build sequence is [svn-prop, init, show-props, setup, > switch-svn-vm, switch-svn-classlib, s > witch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, populate-src, > auto-fetch-classlib-libs, build-classl > ib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, build-commonresources, > auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, build-jdktools, b > uild-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, assemble-artifacts, > assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-hdk-tgz, bundle- > hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, bundle-jdk-zip, > bundle-jdk, assemble-jre-doc, > bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default, copy-src, > bundle-src-tgz, bundle-src-zip, bund > le-src, fetch-vm-libs, fetch-jdktools-libs, assemble-jdk, > clean-classlib, init-classlib-hdk, clean-j > dktools, clean-vm, clean, reset, fetch-classlib-libs, make-snapshot, ] > > svn-prop: > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.revision.tmp > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] 'info' > [exec] 'build.xml' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > Override ignored for property "svn.revision" > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.root.tmp > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] 'info' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > Override ignored for property "svn.rc" > Override ignored for property "svn.info" > > init: > Override ignored for property "harmony.os" > Override ignored for property "harmony.bits" > Override ignored for property "harmony.arch" > Property "hy.javac.compiler" has not been set > > show-props: > [echo] > [echo] Apache Harmony Federated Build > [echo] ========================================== > [echo] svn rev : > [echo] operating system : windows > [echo] architecture : x86-32 > [echo] ant os name/arch : Windows XP/x86 > [echo] hosting Java : 1.5.0_09 (Sun Microsystems Inc.) > [echo] build mode : release > [echo] output location : target > [echo] SVN root : http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf > [echo] > > setup: > [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > [mkdir] Created dir: Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > > switch-svn-vm: > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] '-r' > [exec] 'switch' > [exec] 'http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > [exec] svn: Erreur de syntaxe à l'argument de révision 'switch' > > BUILD FAILED > Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml:509: exec returned: 1 > at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.runExecute(ExecTask.java:636) > at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.runExec(ExecTask.java:662) > at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.execute(ExecTask.java:487) > at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:288) > at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor2.invoke(Unknown Source) > at > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:105) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:357) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:385) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1329) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1298) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1181) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:698) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:199) > at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:257) > at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:104) > > Total time: 3 seconds > -- Egor Pasko From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 15:13:38 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: 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( [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k10sm19797614nfh.17.283.161.120.155.12.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:12:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:12:55 +0000 From: Tim Ellison <vaughneric@example.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages References: <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> In-Reply-To: <vaughneric@example.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Egor Pasko wrote: > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote: >> It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here. > > why? > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :) If I change a style sheet, like adding the conference banner, or adding a sidebar menu option, it will regenerate all the pages including the RU ones. So my model is usually to modify the xdocs and regen->checkin the whole site. The site regen for existing pages should be idempotent. 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( [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm19874279nfh.0.283.161.120.155.37.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:37:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:37:10 +0000 From: Tim Ellison <vaughneric@example.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: Greetings Earthlings References: <002501c87b57$ff9d4fd0$0300000a@animal> In-Reply-To: <002501c87b57$ff9d4fd0$0300000a@animal> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, a lot of things crammed into your one mail, so just a few comments in-lined below... Johnny Kewl wrote: > Thanks for letting me join the group... Everyone is welcome! > My job is not in IT, although thats my first love, and second, and > third... actually where is my wife? > > Gee, I stopped using C++ at VC6 and I cant believe how rusty I am, I > hardly recognise it, there was a time when I used to whiz > around in WTL... unbelievable. While there are a number of 'professional' software engineers here, it's always good to hear from a broad community -- especially when people are willing to challenge the status quo. > I'm also struggling to get the thing compiled... the C code... I'm > running on XP, running the ant from eclipse and have VS 2005/2008 > installed, it just wont get through that C code. It will say... dont > know what sprintf is so I'll jam in <stdlib> then it will say POSIX > _itoa violation... blah blah.. > > I'm just messing too much with the code for my liking... its already > Harmony "something else". Does anyone here actually work on the MS > platform? Am I wasting my time? > > I know its because MS does its own thing in headers... also get > _WIN_NT_VER conflicts... the libs are trying to got to XP and the > code is declaring NT4 ... so not looking good. > > Anyway if you know where I'm going wrong... yell ;) We maintain buildable code on Microsoft Windows. The prereqs are here [1]. Precisely what compiler are you using? > ============== > > Before I go any further, the thing I'm interested in is seeing if a > Java Lite is possible... my gutt tells me that JVM's in general bulk > up too quickly. > > 1) How small does one think one can make a JRE... say for example > there was just a JOPtionPane that said "Hello Harmony"... When I look > at this and other JRE's... it seems Java bulks up very quickly, I'm > guessing that just to run one line of java, the JRE would already be > sitting at 5 megs... do you also think that is about right? You talking runtime (RAM) footprint or on disk install size? > If you think about C++... it more or less it follows a "more > application == more engine" rule. JRE's naturally are carrying the > "OS", but they dont seem to be able to do that. The actual native > components are not that big... but they still seem to have to bulk up > a lot to run "one line" of Java code. With Java you have the option of using the whole set of APIs in the runtime. I agree that simple "hello world" programs would be paying for a lot of APIs they don't use in the runtime, so your analogy of an OS is good. > To me thats a great pity... because if a JRE did not have to "bulk > up"... ie it followed a "more application = more engine" pattern, > then Java itself would be deliverable... and that would make that JRE > very special. 50k application + 500k JRE 100k application + 700k JRE > 1000k application + 1500k JRE ... if you see what I'm getting at.. Again, are you thinking of small runtime footprint to start with, expanding as you use more areas of functionality (i.e. dynamic loading), or smaller disk footprint, like the Java kernel idea of delivering additional components to the machine from (say) a webserver as you use more areas of functionality? > As soon as its 50k application + 15 meg JRE.... we now asking users > to "please" install the JRE separately, and we just hope they can > find the site and know the difference between JDK J2SE and all the > rest... a MS user will probably be in the .Net site totally confused > between J# and J2SE ;) Yes there are installers but imagine 550k... > and not 15 megs... > > So... thats what I'm wondering about and thats why I'm here... Cool. With the strong modular structure in Harmony you can easily imagine providing additional functionality 'on-demand'. To provide the Java platform experience requires a reasonable overhead in start-up cost and 'base' functionality. > 2) Then I got another question... how interchangable are the actual > JRE's.... if I swapped out java.exe for java.with a feather... ie no > class changes... how far would that get? Our goal is that you can do that and things would continue to work just fine. We are implementing to the Java specification. > So hopefully I havnt disturbed you too much... and I got so many > questions... I'm holding myself back here ;) But as a user I just > wanted to say something... compatability is very important, but after > that, creativity takes precedence over standardisation... ie as a > user if theres an engine that runs my code, and does other cool > things... I dont care where it comes from. Innovation and experimentation is great, and the Apache license allows you to get creative with your ideas. I'm sure people will comment on your ideas via the list here. > So what do you think, possible... or the science just says no? Java > Lite cant be. Java lite is not possible in the current > architecture... ??? It sure is possible, but wouldn't be 'Java' (i.e. to the specification). You would have to design the alternative and decide what you were prepared to give up. Regards, Tim From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 15:42:28 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 18096 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 15:42:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 15:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 35308 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 15:42:22 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 35274 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 15:42:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 35265 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 15:42:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:42:22 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:41:45 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so3330800nfd.40 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4YstikKDzly5GsjzOFHXzsXcHi7txnfHVjSzAdC+UA0=; b=uHfjYVFDRi+ZPaqj8ThNNCdEZnhjNQHqyAXzrq7vOKVfLWqIJE5zAx6Et4kUhiBdHc8h9hoYFGawsMtBccCBqPIJz9y635ogJOGV81bl7Gid/bLr/0UZrPvDKAW8izk0R95nC+53IgZN4xahIdi2JC9Ja12Iq9K0wQjS5lKKDus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TxOm8XqaXd3kWBU687mnczOdOQeP2YCfVSRkMsoUq0ind7Nqh4VFhsEIYeDkekNiuV9n41maqoxPKuOsFvt75fVDVJlAWJ7CzwLDs7vVGm1IZ9QF3uMLitKNvmVwlca8KvynuLLs0NHa1ZeKD1hrwXy6MUXXh0131C5QJK5x8gg= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id o12mr11944207hud.22.1204386114296; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?83.161.120.155? ( [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm19969756nfu.7.283.161.120.155.41.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:41:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:41:50 +0000 From: Tim Ellison <vaughneric@example.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: general: error in build: missing release.properties References: <vaughneric@example.org> In-Reply-To: <vaughneric@example.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Is svn.exe on your path? What version of SVN client are you using? It look like it is croaking on invoking the 'svn switch' command. Regards, Tim Francis ANDRE wrote: > Hi Listeners > > It seems that build.xml failed because the file release.properties > cannot be found. Where is this file?? > > > Thanks for your help > > FA > > > Z:\DEV\Harmony>ant -Dauto.fetch=true -v > Apache Ant version 1.7.0 compiled on December 13 2006 > Buildfile: build.xml > Detected Java version: 1.5 in: C:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre > Detected OS: Windows XP > parsing buildfile Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml with URI = > file:/Z:/DEV/Harmony/build.xml > Project base dir set to: Z:\DEV\Harmony > [antlib:org.apache.tools.ant] Could not load definitions from resource > org/apache/tools/ant/antlib.x > ml. It could not be found. > [property] Loading Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties > [property] Unable to find property file: Z:\DEV\Harmony\release.properties > [macrodef] creating macro chksum > Build sequence for target(s) `default' is [svn-prop, init, show-props, > setup, switch-svn-vm, switch- > svn-classlib, switch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, > populate-src, auto-fetch-classlib-lib > s, build-classlib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, build-commonresources, > auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, bu > ild-jdktools, build-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, > assemble-artifacts, assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-h > dk-tgz, bundle-hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, > bundle-jdk-zip, bundle-jdk, as > semble-jre-doc, bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default] > Complete build sequence is [svn-prop, init, show-props, setup, > switch-svn-vm, switch-svn-classlib, s > witch-svn-jdktools, switch-svn-commonresources, populate-src, > auto-fetch-classlib-libs, build-classl > ib, auto-fetch-vm-libs, build-vm, build-commonresources, > auto-fetch-jdktools-libs, build-jdktools, b > uild-all, assemble-stuff, chmod-stuff, assemble-artifacts, > assemble-hdk-doc, bundle-hdk-tgz, bundle- > hdk-zip, bundle-hdk, assemble-jdk-doc, bundle-jdk-tgz, bundle-jdk-zip, > bundle-jdk, assemble-jre-doc, > bundle-jre-tgz, bundle-jre-zip, bundle-jre, default, copy-src, > bundle-src-tgz, bundle-src-zip, bund > le-src, fetch-vm-libs, fetch-jdktools-libs, assemble-jdk, > clean-classlib, init-classlib-hdk, clean-j > dktools, clean-vm, clean, reset, fetch-classlib-libs, make-snapshot, ] > > svn-prop: > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.revision.tmp > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] 'info' > [exec] 'build.xml' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > Override ignored for property "svn.revision" > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Output redirected to property: svn.root.tmp > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] 'info' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > Override ignored for property "svn.rc" > Override ignored for property "svn.info" > > init: > Override ignored for property "harmony.os" > Override ignored for property "harmony.bits" > Override ignored for property "harmony.arch" > Property "hy.javac.compiler" has not been set > > show-props: > [echo] > [echo] Apache Harmony Federated Build > [echo] ========================================== > [echo] svn rev : > [echo] operating system : windows > [echo] architecture : x86-32 > [echo] ant os name/arch : Windows XP/x86 > [echo] hosting Java : 1.5.0_09 (Sun Microsystems > Inc.) > [echo] build mode : release > [echo] output location : target > [echo] SVN root : http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf > [echo] > > setup: > [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > [delete] Deleting directory Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > [mkdir] Created dir: Z:\DEV\Harmony\target > > switch-svn-vm: > [exec] Current OS is Windows XP > [exec] Executing 'svn' with arguments: > [exec] '-r' > [exec] 'switch' > [exec] 'http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk' > [exec] > [exec] The ' characters around the executable and arguments are > [exec] not part of the command. > [exec] svn: Erreur de syntaxe à l'argument de révision 'switch' > > BUILD FAILED > Z:\DEV\Harmony\build.xml:509: exec returned: 1 > at > org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.runExecute(ExecTask.java:636) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.runExec(ExecTask.java:662) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.ExecTask.execute(ExecTask.java:487) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:288) > at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor2.invoke(Unknown Source) > at > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:105) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:357) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:385) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1329) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1298) > at > org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41) > > at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1181) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:698) > at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:199) > at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:257) > at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:104) > > Total time: 3 seconds > From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 15:52:38 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: 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( [83.161.120.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm19977379nfi.6.283.161.120.155.52.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:52:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:52:01 +0000 From: Tim Ellison <vaughneric@example.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: help me -build error. References: <vaughneric@example.org> <001101c87b50$3f676540$0300000a@animal> In-Reply-To: <001101c87b50$3f676540$0300000a@animal> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Johnny Kewl wrote: >> File depends/jars/xerces_2.9.1/xerces.zip has incorrect md5 checksum. >> Expected: a0e07ede1c3bd5231fe15eae24032b2e (or ) >> Found: 4cdbc6358cb289bb2feea38090406d1c > > I also got that error, there is something wrong with the download, it > cuts off. > Download the file in your browser and throw it in then it works?? Yes. The build script tries to download it from the main Apache site http://www.apache.org/dist/xml/xerces-j/Xerces-J-bin.2.9.1.zip You can maybe try getting it from a mirror site, see the list here http://www.apache.org/mirrors e.g. ant -Dxerces.url=http://www.apache.org/dist/xml/xerces-j/Xerces-J-bin.2.9.1.zip (with the URL of your choice) Regards, Tim From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 16:01:06 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 24290 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 16:01:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 16:01:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 49753 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 16:00:59 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 49718 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 16:00:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 49709 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 16:00:59 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:00:59 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO mx01-dublin.purplecloud.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:00:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 26892 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 16:00:33 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?83.161.120.155?) (83.161.120.155) by dublin.everycity.co.uk with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 16:00:33 +0000 Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:00:32 +0000 From: Tim Ellison <vaughneric@example.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 83.161.120.155 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vaughneric@example.org CC: vaughneric@example.org Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Harmony 5.0M5 available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org The Apache Harmony team are pleased to announce the immediate availability of Apache Harmony 5.0 Milestone 5. Apache Harmony is the Java platform project of the Apache Software Foundation, working towards a full compliant implementation of the Java SE specification. Apache Harmony 5.0 Milestone 5 is the latest stable build with numerous enhancements and bug fixes, including a new applet viewer tool and the initial implementation of unpack200. We recommend that everyone update their current version to Apache Harmony 5.0M5. Source code and binary builds are available from the Harmony download site: http://harmony.apache.org/download.cgi Apache Harmony welcomes your help. For more information on how to report problems, successes, and to get involved in Apache Harmony visit the project website at http://harmony.apache.org The Apache Harmony Team From vaughneric@example.org Sat Mar 01 16:44:53 2008 Return-Path: <vaughneric@example.org> Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 45913 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2008 16:44:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2008 16:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 89157 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 16:44:47 -0000 Delivered-To: vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 89130 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2008 16:44:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact vaughneric@example.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Post: <mailto:vaughneric@example.org> List-Id: <dev.harmony.apache.org> Reply-To: vaughneric@example.org Delivered-To: mailing list vaughneric@example.org Received: (qmail 89121 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2008 16:44:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:44:46 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vaughneric@example.org designates 83.161.120.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [83.161.120.155] (HELO ti-out-0910.google.com) (83.161.120.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:44:10 +0000 Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d10so4711429tib.18 for <vaughneric@example.org>; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:44:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6TAmhthXMTJAVG3Suz2eh8BCULJpCVvJ9MueGIKYtlk=; b=jgkNID9SDOo6a3RaBcEqURsxC8Dno72aZC5OEzMT4EYB7koVpe24VfcE3LhMZTKZiFX4DNRWC57Mm1rsZXohjqzNIKmyX4nceoZ4qGOeYyyI1HqQxKrC0yoCQOMx8JTNo9VSZt4WOr1KS3PQMaW9fIYArYjJ4gI4d1zfZ4X7Zyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r6DPaNrKod1IzuHOJHB4o0+bOwTefvg0HBX04v15IhnE5zICpLXlsfb9cNDpO5opaO/Hv8qbBhY9f5u3R8BgrH1Gb51meQBM3Ff1NARN+ERJG8ddbyL0naHBgI773kRNphBxrbNhTFDOG8yQKgqlGPBLumwUSSOWG44Sk6iDV1U= Received: by 83.161.120.155 with SMTP id c2mr3797999ybh.161.1204389857355; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 83.161.120.155 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:44:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <vaughneric@example.org> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:44:17 -0600 From: "Nathan Beyer" <vaughneric@example.org> To: vaughneric@example.org Subject: Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages In-Reply-To: <vaughneric@example.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> <vaughneric@example.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Here's the change I made - http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236. On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <vaughneric@example.org> wrote: > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote: > >
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