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Hi,

What is ECS2?
I didn´t find information on ecs homepage or in ecs2-cvs.

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On Sunday, August 5, 2001, at 03:03 PM, Peter Nimmervoll wrote:

> Hi,

hi peter

> What is ECS2?
> I didn=B4t find information on ecs homepage or in ecs2-cvs.

ecs2 is a refactored version of ecs. when it's done it should be faster=20=

and smarter than the original ecs. the best place to find information=20
about it is to start with the mailing list archives (you'll find=20
instructions about how to find them on the main jakarta site). you =
should=20
find many questions answered already by those who devised and designed =
it.
  of course, if  you find that you have more questions after you've read=20=

what's there, then feel free to post them to this list,

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robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On Sunday, August 5, 2001, at 03:03 PM, Peter Nimmervoll wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>
> hi peter
>
>> What is ECS2?
>> I didn´t find information on ecs homepage or in ecs2-cvs.
>
>
> ecs2 is a refactored version of ecs. when it's done it should be 
> faster and smarter than the original ecs. the best place to find 
> information about it is to start with the mailing list archives 
> (you'll find instructions about how to find them on the main jakarta 
> site). you should find many questions answered already by those who 
> devised and designed it.
>  of course, if  you find that you have more questions after you've 
> read what's there, then feel free to post them to this list,

I find myself saying this alot these days,  if only i had more *free* 
time.  I would really like to wrap up ecs2 and get a release out there 
but between release cycles here, house hunting, and family concerns I 
haven't really had much time to wrap it up.  Robert are you still 
working on the texen stuff for ecs2 to generate the html and rtf classes?

-stephan


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On Monday, August 6, 2001, at 03:52 PM, Stephan Nagy wrote:

<snip>

> I find myself saying this alot these days,  if only i had more *free* 
> time.  I would really like to wrap up ecs2 and get a release out there 
> but between release cycles here, house hunting, and family concerns I 
> haven't really had much time to wrap it up.  Robert are you still working 
> on the texen stuff for ecs2 to generate the html and rtf classes?

depends on what you mean :)

i've been happy for a while that i could - with a few changes and 
sufficient supervision - generation ecs2 elements. so i haven't really 
been working on it.

the problem with generation is that it really needs to be done as late as 
possible since one-way generation (DTD->source) is much easier than 
round-tripping. once you start making hand-coded changes, you need to be 
confident that you don't need to regenerate.

most times i've used generation before i've had a pretty good 
understanding of the code. i really can't say that about ecs2. what i need 
to move forward on generation is to focus on just one ecs package - let's 
say rtf - and get templates that seem to work ok for that. then they can 
be rolled out and refined as we go. what would be really useful for me is 
just one or two typical example classes from rtf hand-coded. i can then 
use these as a base-line and attempt to generate to them (ie. have a 
template that produces identical output for those classes). once i've got 
to that stage i'd need you to go through and take a look at the complete 
rtf package and make sure that the generation's working ok. we can then 
try to generate everything and maybe create some junit tests for the major 
packages so we can make sure that the stuff works. then we'd need to start 
tweaking by hand - and we'd be committed to the generated code.

another issue is one of the main features of ecs are all those really 
handy methods which can't really be generated. from what i can see, the 
work on html seems to have stalled (i'm happy to be corrected, though). so 
even once we've got a set of templates that you, we'll still need to go 
through and transfer methods across.

if you could find the time just to code one or two typical rtf elements (i 
shouldn't need more than that), then i'll start to work on creating 
templates for the generation.

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<snip>

robert burrell donkin wrote:

> most times i've used generation before i've had a pretty good 
> understanding of the code. i really can't say that about ecs2. what i 
> need to move forward on generation is to focus on just one ecs package 
> - let's say rtf - and get templates that seem to work ok for that. 
> then they can be rolled out and refined as we go. what would be really 
> useful for me is just one or two typical example classes from rtf 
> hand-coded. i can then use these as a base-line and attempt to 
> generate to them (ie. have a template that produces identical output 
> for those classes). once i've got to that stage i'd need you to go 
> through and take a look at the complete rtf package and make sure that 
> the generation's working ok. we can then try to generate everything 
> and maybe create some junit tests for the major packages so we can 
> make sure that the stuff works. then we'd need to start tweaking by 
> hand - and we'd be committed to the generated code. 

Agreed.

>
>
> another issue is one of the main features of ecs are all those really 
> handy methods which can't really be generated. from what i can see, 
> the work on html seems to have stalled (i'm happy to be corrected, 
> though). so even once we've got a set of templates that you, we'll 
> still need to go through and transfer methods across.

Yeah, If we can cut down on 70% of the generation of the initial html 
element code the biggest barrier will be crossed,  It's alot easier/fun 
to code useful methods/constructors then it is a bunch of accessors. 
 Nope, I'd pretty much agree html is pretty much stalled.  

> if you could find the time just to code one or two typical rtf 
> elements (i shouldn't need more than that), then i'll start to work on 
> creating templates for the generation. 

Ok, I can do that their isn't much to rtf.

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On Monday, August 6, 2001, at 07:47 PM, Stephan Nagy wrote:

> <snip>
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
>> most times i've used generation before i've had a pretty good 
>> understanding of the code. i really can't say that about ecs2. what i 
>> need to move forward on generation is to focus on just one ecs package - 
>> let's say rtf - and get templates that seem to work ok for that. then 
>> they can be rolled out and refined as we go. what would be really useful 
>> for me is just one or two typical example classes from rtf hand-coded. i 
>> can then use these as a base-line and attempt to generate to them (ie. 
>> have a template that produces identical output for those classes). once 
>> i've got to that stage i'd need you to go through and take a look at the 
>> complete rtf package and make sure that the generation's working ok. we 
>> can then try to generate everything and maybe create some junit tests 
>> for the major packages so we can make sure that the stuff works. then we'
>> d need to start tweaking by hand - and we'd be committed to the 
>> generated code.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>
>>
>> another issue is one of the main features of ecs are all those really 
>> handy methods which can't really be generated. from what i can see, the 
>> work on html seems to have stalled (i'm happy to be corrected, though). 
>> so even once we've got a set of templates that you, we'll still need to 
>> go through and transfer methods across.
>
> Yeah, If we can cut down on 70% of the generation of the initial html 
> element code the biggest barrier will be crossed,  It's alot easier/fun 
> to code useful methods/constructors then it is a bunch of accessors. Nope,
>  I'd pretty much agree html is pretty much stalled.
>> if you could find the time just to code one or two typical rtf elements 
>> (i shouldn't need more than that), then i'll start to work on creating 
>> templates for the generation.
>
> Ok, I can do that their isn't much to rtf.

cool :)

- robert

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snagy       01/08/07 08:39:56

  Modified:    src/java/org/apache/ecs ElementAttributes.java
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  Submitted by:	ohart@example.net
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  Change the way keyword/value pair is delimited with quotes.
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.12      +98 -11    jakarta-ecs/src/java/org/apache/ecs/ElementAttributes.java
  
  Index: ElementAttributes.java
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-ecs/src/java/org/apache/ecs/ElementAttributes.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.11
  retrieving revision 1.12
  diff -u -r1.11 -r1.12
  --- ElementAttributes.java	2001/04/13 14:35:20	1.11
  +++ ElementAttributes.java	2001/08/07 15:39:56	1.12
  @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@
   /**
       This class provides a common set of attributes set* methods for all classes.
       It is abstract to prevent direct instantiation.
  -    @version $Id: ElementAttributes.java,v 1.11 2001/04/13 14:35:20 snagy Exp $
  +    @version $Id: ElementAttributes.java,v 1.12 2001/08/07 15:39:56 snagy Exp $
       @author <a href="mailto:ohart@example.net">Stephan Nagy</a>
       @author <a href="mailto:ohart@example.net">Jon S. Stevens</a>
   */
  @@ -353,17 +353,104 @@
               }
               out.append(' ');
               out.append(alterCase(attr));
  -            if(!value.equalsIgnoreCase(NO_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE) && getAttributeQuote())
  -            {
  -                out.append(getAttributeEqualitySign());
  -                out.append(getAttributeQuoteChar());
  -                out.append(value);
  -                out.append(getAttributeQuoteChar());
  -            }
  -            else if( !getAttributeQuote() )
  +			int iStartPos = out.length();
  +            out.append(alterCase(attr));
  +            if ( !value.equalsIgnoreCase(NO_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE) )
               {
  -                out.append(getAttributeEqualitySign());
  -                out.append(value);
  +                // we have a value 
  +                // we might still enclose in quotes
  +                boolean quoteThisAttribute = attribute_quote;
  +                int singleQuoteFound = 0;
  +                int doubleQuoteFound = 0;
  +                if ( value.length() == 0 )
  +                { // quote a null string
  +                    quoteThisAttribute = true;
  +                }
  +                for ( int ii = 0; ii < value.length(); ii++ )
  +                {
  +                    char c = value.charAt( ii );
  +                    if ( 'a' <= c && c <= 'z' )
  +                    {
  +                        continue;
  +                    }
  +                    if ( 'A' <= c && c <= 'Z' )
  +                    {
  +                        continue;
  +                    }
  +                    if ( '0' <= c && c <= '9' )
  +                    {
  +                        continue;
  +                    }
  +                    if ( c == ':' ||
  +                         c == '-' ||
  +                         c == '_' ||
  +                         c == '.' )
  +                    {
  +                        continue;
  +                    }
  +                    if ( c == '\'' )
  +                    {
  +                        singleQuoteFound++;
  +                    }
  +                    if ( c == '"' )
  +                    {
  +                        doubleQuoteFound++;
  +                    }
  +                    quoteThisAttribute = true;
  +                }
  +                out.append( getAttributeEqualitySign() );
  +                if ( !quoteThisAttribute )
  +                { // no need to append quotes
  +                    out.append( value );
  +                }
  +                else
  +                { // use single quotes if possible
  +                    if ( singleQuoteFound == 0 )
  +                    { // no single quotes, safe to use them to quote
  +                        out.append( '\'' );
  +                        out.append( value );
  +                        out.append( '\'' );
  +                    }
  +                    else
  +                    if ( doubleQuoteFound == 0 )
  +                    { // no double quotes, safe to use them to quote
  +                        out.append( '"' );
  +                        out.append( value );
  +                        out.append( '"' );
  +                    }
  +                    else if ( singleQuoteFound <= doubleQuoteFound )
  +                    { // use single quotes, convert embedded single quotes
  +                        out.append( '\'' );
  +                        int startPos = out.length();
  +                        out.append( value );
  +                        for ( int ii = startPos; ii < out.length(); ii++ )
  +                        { // note out.length() may change during processing
  +                            if ( out.charAt( ii ) == '\'' )
  +                            {
  +                                out.setCharAt( ii, '&');
  +                                out.insert( ii+1, "#39;" );
  +                                ii++;
  +                            }
  +                        }
  +                        out.append( '\'' );
  +                    }
  +                    else
  +                    { // use double quotes, convert embedded double quotes
  +                        out.append( '"' );
  +                        int startPos = out.length();
  +                        out.append( value );
  +                        for ( int ii = startPos; ii < out.length(); ii++ )
  +                        { // note out.length() may change during processing
  +                            if ( out.charAt( ii ) == '"' )
  +                            {
  +                                out.setCharAt( ii, '&');
  +                                out.insert( ii+1, "#34;" );
  +                                ii++;
  +                            }
  +                        }
  +                        out.append( '"' );
  +                    }
  +                }
               }
           }
           if(getBeginEndModifierDefined())
  
  
  

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i'm going to commit a first attempt (iteration 1) at generating a 
reasonable ecs2 package (org.apache.ecs.xhtml) from an xml-schema document.

i'd appreciate it if people could take a look and feed back improvements 
needed for the template. BTW there's no point in submitting patches since 
i'll be regenerating and replacing the whole package with the next 
iteration - you'll need to describe what's wrong in an email.

- robert

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the commit message for the iteration 1 commit was too big and was thrown 
out by the apache mail system.

so i thought i'd let you know by hand that the generated ecs2 xhtml 
package has been committed :)

- robert

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