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Thanks for looking at that for us, Mark.

I believe I've fixed up those files with bad EOFs now.

That sounds rather odd, the 724MB thing. I presume you are running with 
the library from the
release i.e. 32 bit linux. I would be interested to see what the Harmony 
JVM produced - I'll
speak to you and arrange for you to place the dump somewhere.


I expect I'll do another release soon. I'd like to hear from Ant or 
Robert what we should do next.

Thanks,
     Stuart


Mark Hindess wrote:
> In message<ugarcia@example.com>, Stuart Monteith writes:
>    
>> Hello all,
>>       Steve and I have been working on getting the codebase ready for a
>> release. This is a non-trivial activity with lots of things to get right.
>>
>> Given the state of the project as it is just now, we can't claim to be
>> doing a 1.0 release, instead I'm following the Milestone convention.
>>
>> I'm not proposing that what I've assembled is submitted as a release
>> candidate just yet, as there is still work to do on it.
>>
>> If you look here, you'll find the files that would make up a release:
>>       http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC1/
>>
>> I've also created a tag:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC1/
>>
>>
>> Obvious things that are wrong:
>>       apache-kato-M1-incubating-tomcat.demos - packages are undocumented
>> and missing some files.
>>       The documentation - it needs more work, but I'd be interested in
>> some cursory feedback.
>>       The CJVMTI agent needs work under Linux - it's missing some
>> information.
>>       The TCK is still under development.
>>       Some filtering needs to be applied to the rat reports.
>>       There are some spurious files, like readme.html.
>>
>> I have found this a very useful exercise, as this is the first that
>> we've packaged the projects contents and seen what it actually includes,
>> so this should give everyone a good opportunity to have a look and see.
>>      
> I had a quick look.  One odd thing I noticed was that several files
> have mixed dos and unix line endings:
>
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.demo.tomcat/src/main/webapp/OOM.jsp
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.demo.tomcat/src/main/webapp/OOB.jsp
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.demo.tomcat/src/main/webapp/deadlock.jsp
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.demo.tomcat/src/main/webapp/hprofDump.jsp
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.hprof.api/pom.xml
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.native/kato.native.vmapi/src/main/native/katovmapi.c
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.native/kato.native.vmapi/tests/pom.xml
> apache-kato-M1-incubating-src/kato.native/kato.native.vmapi/pom.xml
>
> It is probably worth fixing these.
>
> I also tried the cjvmti agent on linux/x86_64 with Harmony.  The first
> time I hit break running HelloWorld it created a 724M cdmp file which
> caused a crash in the reader.  I tried it again and got a much more
> reasonable 5.7M file which could be read okay.  I've still got copies
> of these if you want to take a ugarcia@example.com.
>
> Regards,
>   Mark.
>
>
>    

-- 
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Hello,
     I've posted our December 2009 report here: 
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Mentors, once we've decided the report is complete, we will need the 
report to be signed off.


Thanks,
     Stuart

-- 
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Looks good to me

+1


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Stuart Monteith <ugarcia@example.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>    I've posted our December 2009 report here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2009
> Like last time, please have a look and reply with your comments.
>
> Mentors, once we've decided the report is complete, we will need the report
> to be signed off.
>
>
> Thanks,
>    Stuart
>
> --
> Stuart Monteith
> http://blog.stoo.me.uk/
>
>


-- 
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Hi,
     I've put together another release candidate.
The tag is here:
     
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/

The files are here:
     http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/

I believe I've addressed all of the issues raised on the mailing list, 
with the exception of the large dump that was generated when run under 
Harmony.

In addition, I've not put up the tomcat package, which is just demo code 
and needs more explanation.
I've also expanded on the rat reports to report on the Windows and Linux 
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i.e.:
rat-bin-linux.txt
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rat-bin.txt
rat-src.txt

I also added the MD5 checksums too, as they apparently must be there.

There have been a number of changes. The TCK is available to run now, 
CJVMTI has been fixed to address most of the issues found. I also added 
the corrections suggested by Andrew Johnson (spelling errors, an other 
indisputable points).

We are to go through the licensing and source audits.

Mentors - can you refresh my memory as to what actions we should take next?

Thanks,
     Stuart

-- 
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Stuart - just a quick public thank you for making this all happen!

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Stuart Monteith <ugarcia@example.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>    I've put together another release candidate.
> The tag is here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/
>
> The files are here:
>    http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/<http://people.apache.org/%7Emonteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/>
>
> I believe I've addressed all of the issues raised on the mailing list, with
> the exception of the large dump that was generated when run under Harmony.
>
> In addition, I've not put up the tomcat package, which is just demo code
> and needs more explanation.
> I've also expanded on the rat reports to report on the Windows and Linux
> native packages separately.
>
> i.e.:
> rat-bin-linux.txt
> rat-bin-windows.txt
> rat-bin.txt
> rat-src.txt
>
> I also added the MD5 checksums too, as they apparently must be there.
>
> There have been a number of changes. The TCK is available to run now,
> CJVMTI has been fixed to address most of the issues found. I also added the
> corrections suggested by Andrew Johnson (spelling errors, an other
> indisputable points).
>
> We are to go through the licensing and source audits.
>
> Mentors - can you refresh my memory as to what actions we should take next?
>
> Thanks,
>    Stuart
>
> --
> Stuart Monteith
> http://blog.stoo.me.uk/
>
>


-- 
Steve

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Dear Kato Developers,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
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The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 16 December 2009, 2 pm Pacific. The report 
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Stuart Monteith <ugarcia@example.com> wrote=
:
> Hi,
> =A0 =A0I've put together another release candidate.
> The tag is here:
>
> =A0https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-in=
cubating-RC2/
>
> The files are here:
> =A0 =A0http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-=
RC2/
>
> I believe I've addressed all of the issues raised on the mailing list, wi=
th
> the exception of the large dump that was generated when run under Harmony=
.
>
> In addition, I've not put up the tomcat package, which is just demo code =
and
> needs more explanation.
> I've also expanded on the rat reports to report on the Windows and Linux
> native packages separately.
>
> i.e.:
> rat-bin-linux.txt
> rat-bin-windows.txt
> rat-bin.txt
> rat-src.txt
>
> I also added the MD5 checksums too, as they apparently must be there.
>
> There have been a number of changes. The TCK is available to run now, CJV=
MTI
> has been fixed to address most of the issues found. I also added the
> corrections suggested by Andrew Johnson (spelling errors, an other
> indisputable points).
>
> We are to go through the licensing and source audits.
>
> Mentors - can you refresh my memory as to what actions we should take nex=
t?
>

To release the artifacts they need to be voted on. The way thats
commonly done is first having a vote on the poddling dev@ mailing list
and then if that passes then hold a vote on the Incubator general@
list. There must be vote on the general@ list and from the two votes
there must be at least three +1s from IPMC members. Sometimes to avoid
the overhead of two votes the votes are run in parrallel by just
cc'ing both lists on the one vote email. You can also just email
general@ asking for review comments without actually holding a vote,
depending on who's around and active you may get comments but often
people are busy and wont find the time till there's actually a [VOTE]
email.

I've had a look at the artifacts, the NOTICE file still isn't perfect,
i probably wasn't as clear as i could have been in the RC1 comments -
the NOTICE file should start with the: Project Name,  ASF copyright,
and product includes... statement. so:

Apache Kato
Copyright 2009 The Apache Software Foundation

This product includes software developed by The Apache Software
Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).

and then any Kato specific notices. The HTTPD project is often given
as an example, see one of their NOTICE files at:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/tags/2.3.4/NOTICE

Its also good for every downloadable artifact to include a README and
RELEASE_NOTES file so is easy to find what the artifact is for and
whats changed in this release of it, but those are missing in some of
these Kato artifacts.

Part of doing releases is working out when to ask for reviews and when
to calling votes. There's a balance that needs to be found between
wasting time rebuilding the release, waiting for comments, and calling
votes too often so people stop bothering looking as they assume its
not ready and there'll be a next vote they can review.

   ...ant

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Thanks for your comments Ant.

I thought we were going to go through a staged release process as 
suggested by Robert.
My expectation was that we would then audit the licenses and the source 
code, however that is done.
Only after having done that would a vote make sense, I thought.

I've changed the NOTICE file to appear like so:

     Apache Kato

     Copyright (c) 2008 - 2009 The Apache Software Foundation

     This product includes software developed by The Apache Software
     Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).

     Portions of Kato were originally developed by
     International Business Machines Corporation and are licensed to the 
Apache Software
     Foundation under the "Software Grant and Corporate Contribution
     License Agreement", informally known as the "IBM Kato CLA".


     Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
     "Restricted Materials of IBM"

     (c) Copyright IBM Corp. 2004, 2008 All Rights Reserved

     US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
     restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.

I'll address the issues with the README/RELEASE files as soon as.

I expect the next action will be for us to go through the next stages as 
suggested by
Robert, although we will need more detail as to what that actually 
means.. After that
RC3 can be created with the changes the audits have found, and a vote 
can be held.

Please let me know if this approach is reasonable.


Thanks again,
     Stuart


ant elder wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Stuart Monteith<ugarcia@example.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>     I've put together another release candidate.
>> The tag is here:
>>
>>   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/
>>
>> The files are here:
>>     http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC2/
>>
>> I believe I've addressed all of the issues raised on the mailing list, with
>> the exception of the large dump that was generated when run under Harmony.
>>
>> In addition, I've not put up the tomcat package, which is just demo code and
>> needs more explanation.
>> I've also expanded on the rat reports to report on the Windows and Linux
>> native packages separately.
>>
>> i.e.:
>> rat-bin-linux.txt
>> rat-bin-windows.txt
>> rat-bin.txt
>> rat-src.txt
>>
>> I also added the MD5 checksums too, as they apparently must be there.
>>
>> There have been a number of changes. The TCK is available to run now, CJVMTI
>> has been fixed to address most of the issues found. I also added the
>> corrections suggested by Andrew Johnson (spelling errors, an other
>> indisputable points).
>>
>> We are to go through the licensing and source audits.
>>
>> Mentors - can you refresh my memory as to what actions we should take next?
>>
>>      
> To release the artifacts they need to be voted on. The way thats
> commonly done is first having a vote on the poddling dev@ mailing list
> and then if that passes then hold a vote on the Incubator general@
> list. There must be vote on the general@ list and from the two votes
> there must be at least three +1s from IPMC members. Sometimes to avoid
> the overhead of two votes the votes are run in parrallel by just
> cc'ing both lists on the one vote email. You can also just email
> general@ asking for review comments without actually holding a vote,
> depending on who's around and active you may get comments but often
> people are busy and wont find the time till there's actually a [VOTE]
> email.
>
> I've had a look at the artifacts, the NOTICE file still isn't perfect,
> i probably wasn't as clear as i could have been in the RC1 comments -
> the NOTICE file should start with the: Project Name,  ASF copyright,
> and product includes... statement. so:
>
> Apache Kato
> Copyright 2009 The Apache Software Foundation
>
> This product includes software developed by The Apache Software
> Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
>
> and then any Kato specific notices. The HTTPD project is often given
> as an example, see one of their NOTICE files at:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/tags/2.3.4/NOTICE
>
> Its also good for every downloadable artifact to include a README and
> RELEASE_NOTES file so is easy to find what the artifact is for and
> whats changed in this release of it, but those are missing in some of
> these Kato artifacts.
>
> Part of doing releases is working out when to ask for reviews and when
> to calling votes. There's a balance that needs to be found between
> wasting time rebuilding the release, waiting for comments, and calling
> votes too often so people stop bothering looking as they assume its
> not ready and there'll be a next vote they can review.
>
>     ...ant
>    

-- 
Stuart Monteith
http://blog.stoo.me.uk/


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On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Stuart Monteith <ugarcia@example.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your comments Ant.
>
> I thought we were going to go through a staged release process as suggested
> by Robert.

sorry about dropping the balls - i underestimated the amount of
intensity and energy that my MSc requires. it's great but it is a lot
of work. my last project of this semester is in on Friday. i'll make
sure i find some kato time (in between revision) from then onwards.

- robert

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Thanks for letting us know how you are doing. Please don't apologise,
you warned us in advance that you would be busy. In the meantime we have
plenty of things to do.

Thanks,
     Stuart

Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> sorry about dropping the balls - i underestimated the amount of
> intensity and energy that my MSc requires. it's great but it is a lot
> of work. my last project of this semester is in on Friday. i'll make
> sure i find some kato time (in between revision) from then onwards.
>
> - robert
>    

-- 
Stuart Monteith
http://blog.stoo.me.uk/



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