From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 09:45:11 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 9274 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 09:45:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 9266 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 09:45:09 -0000 Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 09:45:09 -0000 Received: from fw-holborn.citria.com (HELO DO1112) (83.161.120.155) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2001 09:45:18 -0000 X-Apparently-From: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Reply-To: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> From: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> To: <john82@example.net> References: <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: [VOTE] adding the log taglib to CVS... (was: Re: taglib contributions) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:45:17 +0100 Organization: MetaStuff Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N From: "Pierre Delisle" <john82@example.net> > > So I'd like to call a vote to add the log taglib to CVS... > ... > > If we get enough votes I'd be happy to setup the 'Jakarta-style' Ant build > > process and check it into CVS. > > +1 > > Regardind the build process: > > I think it would also be a good opportunity to test the new build > procedure submitted by Ted. Will do - I need to import the IO tag library too so I'll look at Ted's work for sure. There may be some other build related issues involved in making the live demo. (e.g. I'd like to be able to generate a title page with links to all the doc and example web apps). James _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 12:12:21 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 20739 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 12:12:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 20732 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 12:12:21 -0000 Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 20729 invoked by uid 1315); 1 May 2001 12:12:20 -0000 Date: 1 May 2001 12:12:20 -0000 Message-ID: <john82@example.net> From: john82@example.net To: john82@example.net Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-taglibs/i18n/doc/web intro.xml jstrachan 01/05/01 05:12:20 Modified: i18n/doc/web intro.xml Log: Added myself to the committer list as I contributed the <i18n:formatXXX> tags Revision Changes Path 1.3 +70 -69 jakarta-taglibs/i18n/doc/web/intro.xml Index: intro.xml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-taglibs/i18n/doc/web/intro.xml,v retrieving revision 1.2 retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 --- intro.xml 2001/04/11 23:56:58 1.2 +++ intro.xml 2001/05/01 12:12:20 1.3 @@ -1,69 +1,70 @@ -<?xml version="1.0"?> -<document url="./intro.xml"> - - <properties> - <author>Tim Dawson</author> - <title>The Jakarta-Taglibs Project</title> - </properties> - - <body> - - - <section name="I18N Tag Library" href="Welcome"> - <p>The I18N custom tag library contains tags that help manage - the complexity of creating internationalized web applications. - For those not familiar with the term "i18n", it is a standard - abbreviation for "internationalization", which starts with the - letter I, ends with the letter N, and contains a total of 18 - letters.<br/> - While some may see similarity with the struts message tag, these - tags have several advantages, particularly with respect to - message arguments, not to mention the fact that its a standalone - tag library and doesn't require the user to adopt (or rip - components out of) struts. - </p> - - </section> - - <section name="Documentation" href="Documentation"> - - <p>For more information about the I18N Tag Library, look at the on-line documentation:</p> - <ul> - <li>View the <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/i18n-doc/index.html">I18N Taglib Documentation</a></li> - </ul> - - <p>For information on how to use the distributions, look at the following documentation:</p> - - <ul> - <li>Using the Jakarta-Taglibs <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/binarydist.html">Binary Distribution</a></li> - <li>Using the Jakarta-Taglibs <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/sourcedist.html">Source Distribution</a></li> - </ul> - - </section> - - <section name="Download" href="Download"> - - <p>A binary download of the I18N Tag Library is available</p> - <ul> - <li><strong>Download <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly/projects/i18n/">I18N Tag Library</a></strong></li> - </ul> - - <p>The following distributions are also available for download:</p> - <ul> - <li>Download <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly/src/">Jakarta-Taglibs Source</a></li> - <li>Download entire <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly">Jakarta-Taglibs Distribution</a></li> - </ul> - - </section> - - <section name="Contributors" href="Contributors"> - <p>List of contributors:</p> - - <ul> - <li>Tim Dawson</li> - </ul> - - </section> - - </body> -</document> +<?xml version="1.0"?> +<document url="./intro.xml"> + + <properties> + <author>Tim Dawson</author> + <title>The Jakarta-Taglibs Project</title> + </properties> + + <body> + + + <section name="I18N Tag Library" href="Welcome"> + <p>The I18N custom tag library contains tags that help manage + the complexity of creating internationalized web applications. + For those not familiar with the term "i18n", it is a standard + abbreviation for "internationalization", which starts with the + letter I, ends with the letter N, and contains a total of 18 + letters.<br/> + While some may see similarity with the struts message tag, these + tags have several advantages, particularly with respect to + message arguments, not to mention the fact that its a standalone + tag library and doesn't require the user to adopt (or rip + components out of) struts. + </p> + + </section> + + <section name="Documentation" href="Documentation"> + + <p>For more information about the I18N Tag Library, look at the on-line documentation:</p> + <ul> + <li>View the <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/i18n-doc/index.html">I18N Taglib Documentation</a></li> + </ul> + + <p>For information on how to use the distributions, look at the following documentation:</p> + + <ul> + <li>Using the Jakarta-Taglibs <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/binarydist.html">Binary Distribution</a></li> + <li>Using the Jakarta-Taglibs <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/sourcedist.html">Source Distribution</a></li> + </ul> + + </section> + + <section name="Download" href="Download"> + + <p>A binary download of the I18N Tag Library is available</p> + <ul> + <li><strong>Download <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly/projects/i18n/">I18N Tag Library</a></strong></li> + </ul> + + <p>The following distributions are also available for download:</p> + <ul> + <li>Download <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly/src/">Jakarta-Taglibs Source</a></li> + <li>Download entire <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-taglibs/nightly">Jakarta-Taglibs Distribution</a></li> + </ul> + + </section> + + <section name="Contributors" href="Contributors"> + <p>List of contributors:</p> + + <ul> + <li>Tim Dawson</li> + <li>James Strachan</li> + </ul> + + </section> + + </body> +</document> From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 15:48:21 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 81151 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 15:48:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 81142 invoked by uid 1235); 1 May 2001 15:48:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2001 15:48:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgan Delagrange <john82@example.net> X-Sender: morgand@localhost To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <003301c0d1f9$386eeef0$5540dec2@james> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105010846550.67464-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Of course, I'm +1 for that idea. Of course, we could just piggy back on the commons sandbox if we like. There are no restrictions (for better or for worse) on what types of projects go in the sandbox. We could just create a taglibs directory at the root of the sandbox, and we'd be ready to go. - Morgan On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > I've been taking a closer look at the Jakarta Commons project recently (well > worth a look!) and thought that the taglibs project could use a similar > structure. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html > > The commons project consists of > > * Commons Proper: a repository of ready to use components. > * Directory: a catalog of components > * Sandbox: a workspace for component development > > The Sandbox sounded a particularly good idea. The way it works in Commons > project is that any committer can ask for commit access to the sandbox area > and use it as a development area. Then when the code is ready for prime time > it can be voted on and moved into the Commons Proper. > > I was thinking it might be a good idea to have the same thing in the taglibs > project. The sandbox area would be useful for developers of taglibs. It > would allow us to experiment a little and create new taglibs (possilbly > collectively) then when they are ready, vote to have them 'released' into > the 'proper' area. It would also mean we could move some of the cruft into > the sandbox, leaving only the useful, ready for prime time taglibs in the > 'proper' area. > > Once the overnight build process is upgraded a little to work with the > online Tomcat installation we could have an online demo of all the taglibs > in both the proper area and the sandbox area. This would make the job of > evaluating new taglibs easier - people will be able to just click on a URL > and browse the documentation, Javadoc, run the examples and look at the JSP > code. > > Thoughts? > > James > > > From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 15:49:43 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 82115 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 15:49:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 82105 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 15:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cupid.suninternet.com) (john82@example.net) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 15:49:39 -0000 Received: by cupid.suninternet.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C12E48580; Tue, 1 May 2001 11:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:49:39 -0500 To: john82@example.net, James Strachan <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: [VOTE] adding the log taglib to CVS... (was: Re: taglib contributions) Message-ID: <john82@example.net> References: <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net>; from john82@example.net on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:05:04PM +0100 From: john82@example.net (Joseph B. Ottinger) X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N So what's the result for the taglibs I've offered? I've two groups looking at it, one nearer and dearer to my heart... and jakarta. I've got the conversion for OpenSymphony prepared for integration, but I've been holding off pending a result here. I'd really like to know its final destination by the close of my work day today, if at all possible. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Joseph B. Ottinger john82@example.net http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 16:27:03 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 22706 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 16:26:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 22675 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 16:26:51 -0000 Received: from mercury.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:26:51 -0000 Received: from shorter.eng.sun.com ([83.161.120.155]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11833 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun.com (d-ucup02-251-127 [83.161.120.155]) by shorter.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id JAA04440 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:28:30 -0700 From: Pierre Delisle <john82@example.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: [VOTE] adding the log taglib to CVS... (was: Re: taglib contributions) References: <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N "Joseph B. Ottinger" wrote: > > So what's the result for the taglibs I've offered? I've two groups looking > at it, one nearer and dearer to my heart... and jakarta. I've got the > conversion for OpenSymphony prepared for integration, but I've been holding > off pending a result here. I'd really like to know its final destination by > the close of my work day today, if at all possible. +1 -- Pierre From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 16:30:23 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 16:30:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 27265 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 16:30:17 -0000 Received: from patan.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:30:17 -0000 Received: from shorter.eng.sun.com ([83.161.120.155]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05312 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun.com (d-ucup02-251-127 [83.161.120.155]) by shorter.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id JAA04771 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:31:57 -0700 From: Pierre Delisle <john82@example.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? References: <003301c0d1f9$386eeef0$5540dec2@james> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N James Strachan wrote: > > I've been taking a closer look at the Jakarta Commons project recently (well > worth a look!) and thought that the taglibs project could use a similar > structure. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html > > The commons project consists of > > * Commons Proper: a repository of ready to use components. > * Directory: a catalog of components > * Sandbox: a workspace for component development > > The Sandbox sounded a particularly good idea. The way it works in Commons > project is that any committer can ask for commit access to the sandbox area > and use it as a development area. Then when the code is ready for prime time > it can be voted on and moved into the Commons Proper. > > I was thinking it might be a good idea to have the same thing in the taglibs > project. The sandbox area would be useful for developers of taglibs. It > would allow us to experiment a little and create new taglibs (possilbly > collectively) then when they are ready, vote to have them 'released' into > the 'proper' area. It would also mean we could move some of the cruft into > the sandbox, leaving only the useful, ready for prime time taglibs in the > 'proper' area. > > Once the overnight build process is upgraded a little to work with the > online Tomcat installation we could have an online demo of all the taglibs > in both the proper area and the sandbox area. This would make the job of > evaluating new taglibs easier - people will be able to just click on a URL > and browse the documentation, Javadoc, run the examples and look at the JSP > code. > > Thoughts? +1. jakarta-taglibs is getting busier and this is great. This however also means we need to get better organized. I was hoping to have some time to help with this, but until JavaOne I'm in thin air. In a previous email I had proposed a dashboard. Going with proper, directory, and sandbox is along the same line, and it is probably a good think to align with the work being done in commons. I'm all behind it... -- Pierre From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 16:40:13 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 42757 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 16:40:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 42743 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 16:40:09 -0000 Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:40:09 -0000 Received: from fw-holborn.citria.com (HELO DO1112) (83.161.120.155) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:40:10 -0000 X-Apparently-From: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Reply-To: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> From: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> To: <john82@example.net> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105010846550.67464-100000@localhost> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:40:09 +0100 Organization: MetaStuff Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > Of course, I'm +1 for that idea. Of course, we could just piggy back on > the commons sandbox if we like. There are no restrictions (for better or > for worse) on what types of projects go in the sandbox. We could just > create a taglibs directory at the root of the sandbox, and we'd be ready > to go. +1 for a taglibs directory in jakarta-commons-sandbox. Its probably the easiest thing to do for now. If ever it gets too big or cumbersome we can always move it later to jakarta-taglibs-sandbox. James _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 16:43:32 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 45442 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 16:43:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 45430 invoked by uid 1235); 1 May 2001 16:43:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:43:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgan Delagrange <john82@example.net> X-Sender: morgand@localhost To: john82@example.net, James Strachan <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105010942380.16271-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > > > Of course, I'm +1 for that idea. Of course, we could just piggy back on > > the commons sandbox if we like. There are no restrictions (for better or > > for worse) on what types of projects go in the sandbox. We could just > > create a taglibs directory at the root of the sandbox, and we'd be ready > > to go. > > +1 for a taglibs directory in jakarta-commons-sandbox. > > Its probably the easiest thing to do for now. If ever it gets too big or > cumbersome we can always move it later to jakarta-taglibs-sandbox. > Excellent. As soon as someone has a tag idea that they wish to stage, we'll set it up. - Morgan From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 16:55:10 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 57738 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 16:55:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 57722 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 16:55:02 -0000 Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:55:02 -0000 Received: from fw-holborn.citria.com (HELO DO1112) (83.161.120.155) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2001 16:55:04 -0000 X-Apparently-From: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Reply-To: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> From: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> To: <john82@example.net> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105010942380.16271-100000@localhost> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:55:03 +0100 Organization: MetaStuff Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > Excellent. As soon as someone has a tag idea that they wish to stage, > we'll set it up. I could add Joe's logging tags there until we get the last +1 vote from a committer :-) I can experiment with Ted's new build process while I'm doing it. Also we could move the old SQL taglib there along with possibly the "JSP Spec taglib" too? James _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 17:29:23 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 93253 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 17:29:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 93226 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 17:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.snet.net) (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 17:29:03 -0000 Received: from pop.snet.net ([83.161.120.155]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f41HT4L01945 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from precision (83.161.120.155.snet.net [83.161.120.155]) by pop.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-pop-1.5/D-1.8/O-1.6) with ESMTP id f41HT3T00243 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:27:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Shawn Bayern <john82@example.net> X-Sender: bayern@precision To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105011320300.28552-100000@precision> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > > > Excellent. As soon as someone has a tag idea that they wish to > stage, > we'll set it up. > > I could add Joe's logging tags there until we get the last +1 vote > from a committer :-) +1 for including "logs"; they'll work nicely with things like the benchmark taglib and the goal of "click stream" analysis (as James reminded me) and with libraries like datetime as well. > I can experiment with Ted's new build process while I'm doing it. I'd encourage that too. +1 on the sandbox overall as well; like everyone else, I think it's a great idea, especially given our charter of experimentation. (I've got some little things I can include there as well.) Shawn From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 17:29:44 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 94086 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 17:29:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 93689 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 17:29:29 -0000 Received: from vortex.more.net (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 17:29:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by vortex.more.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f41HTPf19200 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:29:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:29:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Rich Catlett <john82@example.net> To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <003301c0d1f9$386eeef0$5540dec2@james> Message-ID: <john82@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N This sounds like a great idea! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Catlett john82@example.net | Confuscious say "Man who stand | Programmer | on toilet, high on pot!" | | | --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > I've been taking a closer look at the Jakarta Commons project recently (well > worth a look!) and thought that the taglibs project could use a similar > structure. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html > > The commons project consists of > > * Commons Proper: a repository of ready to use components. > * Directory: a catalog of components > * Sandbox: a workspace for component development > > The Sandbox sounded a particularly good idea. The way it works in Commons > project is that any committer can ask for commit access to the sandbox area > and use it as a development area. Then when the code is ready for prime time > it can be voted on and moved into the Commons Proper. > > I was thinking it might be a good idea to have the same thing in the taglibs > project. The sandbox area would be useful for developers of taglibs. It > would allow us to experiment a little and create new taglibs (possilbly > collectively) then when they are ready, vote to have them 'released' into > the 'proper' area. It would also mean we could move some of the cruft into > the sandbox, leaving only the useful, ready for prime time taglibs in the > 'proper' area. > > Once the overnight build process is upgraded a little to work with the > online Tomcat installation we could have an online demo of all the taglibs > in both the proper area and the sandbox area. This would make the job of > evaluating new taglibs easier - people will be able to just click on a URL > and browse the documentation, Javadoc, run the examples and look at the JSP > code. > > Thoughts? > > James > > > From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 17:34:02 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 3185 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 17:33:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 2927 invoked by uid 1235); 1 May 2001 17:33:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2001 17:33:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:33:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgan Delagrange <john82@example.net> X-Sender: morgand@localhost To: john82@example.net, James Strachan <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011032370.16271-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > > > Excellent. As soon as someone has a tag idea that they wish to stage, > > we'll set it up. > > I could add Joe's logging tags there until we get the last +1 vote from a > committer :-) Sure, go for it! > I can experiment with Ted's new build process while I'm doing it. > > Also we could move the old SQL taglib there along with possibly the "JSP > Spec taglib" too? > Probably not. I don't know if the sandbox is a good place to put tags out to pasture. I think it's OK just to keep them where they are in an UNSUPPORTED state. - Morgan From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 19:00:48 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 30177 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 19:00:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 29985 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 19:00:39 -0000 Received: from vortex.more.net (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 19:00:39 -0000 Received: from voyager.apg.more.net (b5fan.spg.more.net [83.161.120.155]) by vortex.more.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f41J0fq26463 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 14:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Sender: john82@example.net Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:00:40 -0500 From: Glenn Nielsen <john82@example.net> Organization: MOREnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: [VOTE] JDBC tag library name change References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104270909280.45843-100000@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N +1 for both, lets doit. Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > OK, let's split this into two votes. I'm: > > +1 > > for renaming JDBC to "DBTags", and: > > +1 > > for renaming SQL to "SQL Sample Taglib" and moving it to the > "UNSUPPORTED" state per the prospective Taglibs release rules, as soon as > the news portion of the site goes live. At that point, we should probably > post a single binary for SQL and remove it from the daily builds. > > - Morgan > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, James Strachan wrote: > > > > > > Good idea, but we already have a tag library in taglibs names 'SQL'. > > > > > > Whoops - well spotted Morgan ;-) > > > > > > The existing SQL Tag library is an implementation of the SQL tags discussed > > > in the JSP spec. It looks like it hasn't been worked on for over a year. > > > > > > > I'd vote for renaming the old one ... it was added simply to kick start > > the taglibs project. "SQL" is a name better applied to the current JDBC > > tags. > > > > > Maybe we could rename that one as something like "JSP Spec SQL Taglib" or > > > something, to highlight the fact its more for demonstration purposes rather > > > than as the preferred taglibs library for working with SQL? > > > > > > It might be confusing for developers seeing 'DB Tags' and 'SQL Tags'. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > Craig > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Nielsen john82@example.net | /* Spelin donut madder | MOREnet System Programming | * if iz ina coment. | Missouri Research and Education Network | */ | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 19:05:38 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 38369 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 19:05:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 38360 invoked by uid 1235); 1 May 2001 19:05:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2001 19:05:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgan Delagrange <john82@example.net> X-Sender: morgand@localhost To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: [VOTE] JDBC tag library name change In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011204120.78647-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N OK, we've definitely got enough +1s now. I think that I will have to stub in a very minimal "news" feature at this point to facilitate the move. We'll create something more formal very soon. I hope to also take this opportunity to set up binary releases. - Morgan On Tue, 1 May 2001, Glenn Nielsen wrote: > +1 for both, lets doit. > > Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > > > OK, let's split this into two votes. I'm: > > > > +1 > > > > for renaming JDBC to "DBTags", and: > > > > +1 > > > > for renaming SQL to "SQL Sample Taglib" and moving it to the > > "UNSUPPORTED" state per the prospective Taglibs release rules, as soon as > > the news portion of the site goes live. At that point, we should probably > > post a single binary for SQL and remove it from the daily builds. > > > > - Morgan > > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, James Strachan wrote: > > > > > > > > Good idea, but we already have a tag library in taglibs names 'SQL'. > > > > > > > > Whoops - well spotted Morgan ;-) > > > > > > > > The existing SQL Tag library is an implementation of the SQL tags discussed > > > > in the JSP spec. It looks like it hasn't been worked on for over a year. > > > > > > > > > > I'd vote for renaming the old one ... it was added simply to kick start > > > the taglibs project. "SQL" is a name better applied to the current JDBC > > > tags. > > > > > > > Maybe we could rename that one as something like "JSP Spec SQL Taglib" or > > > > something, to highlight the fact its more for demonstration purposes rather > > > > than as the preferred taglibs library for working with SQL? > > > > > > > > It might be confusing for developers seeing 'DB Tags' and 'SQL Tags'. > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glenn Nielsen john82@example.net | /* Spelin donut madder | > MOREnet System Programming | * if iz ina coment. | > Missouri Research and Education Network | */ | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 19:10:56 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 46963 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 19:10:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 46951 invoked by uid 1235); 1 May 2001 19:10:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2001 19:10:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgan Delagrange <john82@example.net> X-Sender: morgand@localhost To: john82@example.net cc: john82@example.net Subject: Re: [VOTE] Rod Waldhoff as committer In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104301227400.20455-100000@localhost> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011210330.78647-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Welcome to the party, Rod! On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to nominate Rod Waldhoff as a committer. He's the original > > architect of the proposed XSL tag library refactoring. He's also an > > active committer on the Jakarta commons project. > > > > +1 for Rod as a committer. > > > > - Morgan > > > > > > +1 > > Since Rod is already a committer on Commons, all I need to do (since there > are now sufficient +1s) is add to his karma ... will be done in a few > seconds. > > Craig > > > From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 19:29:45 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 75010 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 19:29:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 74978 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 19:29:35 -0000 Received: from vortex.more.net (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 19:29:35 -0000 Received: from voyager.apg.more.net (b5fan.spg.more.net [83.161.120.155]) by vortex.more.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f41JTcq25530 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 14:29:38 -0500 (CDT) Sender: john82@example.net Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:29:36 -0500 From: Glenn Nielsen <john82@example.net> Organization: MOREnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: [VOTE] Rod Waldhoff as committer References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104301121070.30176-100000@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N +1 (Sheesh, I go on vacation for 4 days and the taglib message traffic explodes!) Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd like to nominate Rod Waldhoff as a committer. He's the original > architect of the proposed XSL tag library refactoring. He's also an > active committer on the Jakarta commons project. > > +1 for Rod as a committer. > > - Morgan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Nielsen john82@example.net | /* Spelin donut madder | MOREnet System Programming | * if iz ina coment. | Missouri Research and Education Network | */ | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 20:02:45 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 41612 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 20:02:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 41585 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 20:02:37 -0000 Received: from patan.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 20:02:37 -0000 Received: from shorter.eng.sun.com ([83.161.120.155]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22463 for <john82@example.net>; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng.sun.com (d-ucup02-251-124 [83.161.120.155]) by shorter.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id NAA25208; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:01:01 -0700 From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart <john82@example.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net CC: john82@example.net Subject: suggestion: "with" tag -- Re: A bit of newbie question References: <john82@example.net> <john82@example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N Here are two ideas... <x:with name="x" value="y"> Here you can say <%= x %> and you get 'y' </x:with> and <x:set name="x">VALUE</x:set> here you can say <%= x %> *********************** When I started writing this I was expecting to be able to write more sophisticated tags, for example, I wanted to say: <x:body name="x"> <x:value>anything goes</x:value> <x:body> here you can say <%= x %> and get the result of evaluating 'anything goes' </x:body> </x:with> or <x:body name="x"> <x:value>anything goes</x:value> here you can say <%= x %> and get the result of the evaluation </x:body> or <x:block> <x:set name="x">VALUE</x:set> here you can use <%= x %> <x:block> here you cannot say <%= x %> etc... Unfortunately, none of these seem possible in JSP 1.2 because, although JSP 1.2 extended the notion of validation to include PageData information, scripting variable is still only available through TagExtraInfo.getVariableInfo(TagData), and there is no new method that uses PageData. Private communication between the tags is possible, of course. The problem is the scripting variable use. I'll bring up the getVariableInfo(PageData) issue to the JSR-053 experts, although it is late enough that I don't know if this can be fixed for JSP 1.2. - eduard/o James Strachan wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Giannopoulos" <john82@example.net> > To: <john82@example.net> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:49 PM > Subject: A bit of newbie question > > > Hello all, > > > > I am new to the taglib development world so please bare with me, if I > > sometimes seem to ask silly questions. :-) > > > > That being said, I would love to know if there is a way to use a custom > tag > > within another custom tag (as an attribute value) > > > > For example something like (please let me know if I'm being stupid > here...is > > there a better way?) > > > > <foo:bar attrib1="baz" attrib2=" <foo:othertag attrib1=""> " /> > > OR > > > > <foo:bar attrib1="baz" attrib2="<%=somevalue%>"> " /> > > ----> I really would rather avoid any code between <% and %> on the jsp > > page. > > If <foo:bar> isn't a JSP custom tag then this isn't an john82@example.net. If it > is then how about > > <foo:bar attrib1="baz"> > <foo:othertag attrib1=""> > </foo:bar> > > Then in the OtherTag class can communicate implicitly with its parent tag to > set the required attribute(s). > It can have code along the lines of > > public class OuterTag extends TagSupport { > > public int doEndTag() > > Tag parent = getParent(); > if ( parent instanceof FooTag ) { > FooTag foo = (FooTag) parent; > foo.setAttribute2( someValue ); > } > ... > } > > If you go down this route be careful to make sure most of the 'action' code > of the <foo:bar> and <foo:othertag> tags are in the doEndTag() methods > rather than the doStartTag() methods so that the tags have time to initalise > themselves first, via containment. > > James > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Tue May 01 22:27:12 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 46161 invoked by uid 500); 1 May 2001 22:27:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 45990 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 22:27:00 -0000 Received: from mercury.sun.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 22:27:00 -0000 Received: from shorter.eng.sun.com ([83.161.120.155]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00953; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng.sun.com (d-ucup02-251-124 [83.161.120.155]) by shorter.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id PAA10758; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:25:27 -0700 From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart <john82@example.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net CC: James Strachan <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011032370.16271-100000@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N I agree with Morgan. Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > Also we could move the old SQL taglib there along with possibly the "JSP > > Spec taglib" too? > > > > Probably not. I don't know if the sandbox is a good place to put tags out > to pasture. I think it's OK just to keep them where they are in an > UNSUPPORTED state. > > - Morgan From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Wed May 02 01:57:24 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 63263 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 01:57:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 63253 invoked by uid 1059); 2 May 2001 01:57:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (john82@example.net) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2001 01:57:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <john82@example.net> X-Sender: craigmcc@localhost To: john82@example.net, James Strachan <john82@example.net> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? In-Reply-To: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011856270.44300-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > > > Of course, I'm +1 for that idea. Of course, we could just piggy back on > > the commons sandbox if we like. There are no restrictions (for better or > > for worse) on what types of projects go in the sandbox. We could just > > create a taglibs directory at the root of the sandbox, and we'd be ready > > to go. > > +1 for a taglibs directory in jakarta-commons-sandbox. > > Its probably the easiest thing to do for now. If ever it gets too big or > cumbersome we can always move it later to jakarta-taglibs-sandbox. > > James > > Setting up a new CVS repository is trivially simple. I'd much prefer to see a new jakarta-taglibs-sandbox for this stuff rather than overload jakarta-commons-sandbox. Craig From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Wed May 02 09:01:14 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 38307 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 09:01:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 38279 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 09:01:05 -0000 Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 2 May 2001 09:01:05 -0000 Received: from fw-holborn.citria.com (HELO DO1112) (83.161.120.155) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2001 09:01:15 -0000 X-Apparently-From: <john82@example.net> Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Reply-To: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> From: "James Strachan" <john82@example.net> To: <john82@example.net> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011856270.44300-100000@localhost> Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:01:14 +0100 Organization: MetaStuff Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <john82@example.net> > Setting up a new CVS repository is trivially simple. I'd much prefer to > see a new jakarta-taglibs-sandbox for this stuff rather than overload > jakarta-commons-sandbox. OK - lets setup a jakarta-taglibs-sandbox CVS repository then. Sounds a good idea. James _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Wed May 02 11:26:49 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 96185 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 11:26:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 95810 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 11:26:38 -0000 Received: from galen.earthdome.org (HELO zathras.earthdome.org) (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 2 May 2001 11:26:38 -0000 Received: from voyager.apg.more.net (localhost [83.161.120.155]) by zathras.earthdome.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA67403 for <john82@example.net>; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:28:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john82@example.net) Sender: john82@example.net Message-ID: <john82@example.net> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 06:28:45 -0500 From: Glenn Nielsen <john82@example.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john82@example.net Subject: Re: taglibs sandbox? References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105011856270.44300-100000@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > On Tue, 1 May 2001, James Strachan wrote: > > > From: "Morgan Delagrange" <john82@example.net> > > > > > Of course, I'm +1 for that idea. Of course, we could just piggy back on > > > the commons sandbox if we like. There are no restrictions (for better or > > > for worse) on what types of projects go in the sandbox. We could just > > > create a taglibs directory at the root of the sandbox, and we'd be ready > > > to go. > > > > +1 for a taglibs directory in jakarta-commons-sandbox. > > > > Its probably the easiest thing to do for now. If ever it gets too big or > > cumbersome we can always move it later to jakarta-taglibs-sandbox. > > > > James > > > > > > Setting up a new CVS repository is trivially simple. I'd much prefer to > see a new jakarta-taglibs-sandbox for this stuff rather than overload > jakarta-commons-sandbox. > > Craig I agree with Craig. And all jakarta-taglibs committers should automatically be granted commit to jakarta-taglibs-sandbox. Regards, Glenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Nielsen john82@example.net | /* Spelin donut madder | MOREnet System Programming | * if iz ina coment. | Missouri Research and Education Network | */ | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Wed May 02 11:43:41 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 52948 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 11:43:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 52936 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 11:43:33 -0000 Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 52923 invoked by uid 1004); 2 May 2001 11:43:32 -0000 Date: 2 May 2001 11:43:32 -0000 Message-ID: <john82@example.net> From: john82@example.net To: john82@example.net Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-taglibs/regexp/doc/web index.html glenn 01/05/02 04:43:32 Modified: regexp/doc/web index.html Log: Update docs with jakarta-oro requirements Revision Changes Path 1.3 +7 -2 jakarta-taglibs/regexp/doc/web/index.html Index: index.html =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-taglibs/regexp/doc/web/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.2 retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 --- index.html 2000/11/06 13:51:47 1.2 +++ index.html 2001/05/02 11:43:30 1.3 @@ -46,8 +46,10 @@ </P> <A NAME="requirements"><H3>Requirements</H3></A> -<P>This custom tag library requires no software other than a servlet container -that supports the JavaServer Pages Specification, version 1.1.</P> +<P>This custom tag library requires a servlet container +that supports the JavaServer Pages Specification, version 1.1. +And the <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/">Jakarta ORO</a> Perl +Regular Expression package.</P> <A NAME="config"><H3>Configuration</H3></A> <P>Follow these steps to configure your web application with this tag library:</P> @@ -66,6 +68,9 @@ &lt;/taglib&gt; </PRE> </LI> +<LI>Make sure that the Jakarta-ORO package is in the classpath for your +web application or install it in the /WEB-INF/lib subdirectory of your +web application.</LI> </UL> <P>To use the tags from this library in your JSP pages, add the following directive at the top of each page: </P> From taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net Wed May 02 11:52:28 2001 Return-Path: <taglibs-dev-returnjohn82@example.net> Delivered-To: john82@example.net Received: (qmail 63162 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2001 11:52:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact john82@example.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: john82@example.net list-help: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:john82@example.net> list-post: <mailto:john82@example.net> Delivered-To: mailing list john82@example.net Received: (qmail 63008 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 11:52:22 -0000 Received: from valkyrie.is.com (83.161.120.155) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; 2 May 2001 11:52:22 -0000 Received: by valkyrie.is.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <JCBSR6YX>; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:51:52 -0500 Message-ID: <john82@example.net> From: Tim Dawson <john82@example.net> To: "'john82@example.net'" <john82@example.net> Subject: resubmit: build process without .bat and .sh files Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:51:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0D2FE.4655D410" X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0D2FE.4655D410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I sent this out a week and a half ago, hoping for some feedback. I'd very much like to see the current build process improved, to get rid of the .bat and .sh scripts, and to remove the way the build system forces you to have certain jar files installed in certain places without clear directions or error messages. Pierre Delisle has promised to take a look at it when he gets a breather from preparing JSR-052 for JavaOne, but I'm resending this in hopes that other people will also take a look and provide feedback. Thanks, Tim -- I know I was planning to send this out weeks ago, but life got in the way. The usual excuses. :-) One problem with the current build system that I've tried to solve is the confusion surrounding getting your environment set up set up to build the taglibs -- if you just download and try to install, it just won't work, and you have to look through the build.bat, build.sh, and build.xml files to figure out why - not a great approach for newbies or people who just don't have the time. Other problems included inconsistencies between different taglib builds and the fact that necessary differences are hard to spot when the bulk of the xml file is the same as all the others. ------------------------ GOAL1: eliminate the .bat and .sh scripts To solve #1, I had to replace the two major pieces of functionality within the .bat and .sh scripts: (1) extract environment variables and pass them into java, and (2) ensure that Xalan and Xerces are in the Ant runtime so that the <style> tags in the documentation target will run. (1) was easy because Ant 1.3 now supports grabbing environment variables. (2) was a little tougher, and while I'm not entirely happy with the approach I've resorted to, I can't think of anything better. The main problem is that I didn't see any way to modify the ant runtime once it was started I couldn't figure out any good way to get around this, except to force the user to install xalan.jar and xerces.jar to their ANT_HOME/lib directory, so that they're included by default. The only real improvement I was able to make was to add a couple of good fail messages to explain to the person what they needed to do. Result: the taglib-specific .bat and .sh scripts can be removed, and you just use the
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