#edubuntu 2005-12-01 <Lord_Athur> hi!, my name is Alejandro, I've been here a lot of times but now <Lord_Athur> I'd like to be a member of the edubuntu community, what should I do? <Lord_Athur> is there anyone? <Lord_Athur> <Lord_Athur> the web of edubuntu says that you'd like new members <Lord_Athur> is this truth? <Lord_Athur> won't anybody answer me? <bdoin> too late, the leaders are probably asleep. <Lord_Athur> mmm <Lord_Athur> bdoin, what time is it in your country? <bdoin> I am in france and it's 24:30 <bdoin> in south africa, it should be the same or later <Lord_Athur> ooo <Lord_Athur> is not the time in my country <Lord_Athur> I'm in the south of America <Lord_Athur> and in is 20:32 <Lord_Athur> I think that this explain everything <Lord_Athur> :P <mhz> Lord_Athur: hola <Lord_Athur> hi <Lord_Athur> hola <Lord_Athur> :P <mhz> hehe <mhz> dia viernes, a esta hora... normalmente te psasara esto <Lord_Athur> creo que no me fij en eso <mhz> pero puedes hacer ping a quien necesites <bdoin> bye* <Lord_Athur> adems no soy muy bueno en el ingls <mhz> bdoin: bye <Lord_Athur> bye bd <mhz> Lord_Athur: no problem <Lord_Athur> :P <mhz> Lord_Athur: como puedo ayudarte? <Lord_Athur> mhz, de donde eres? <mhz> Chile <Lord_Athur> ap ok <mhz> y tu? <Lord_Athur> tambin <Lord_Athur> :P <Lord_Athur> santiago <Lord_Athur> bueno, tengo 15 aos y estoy con la distribucin ubuntu <Lord_Athur> y estoy instalando edubuntu <Lord_Athur> pero quisiera participar activamente <mhz> bienvenido! <Lord_Athur> gracias <Lord_Athur> :P <mhz> iras manana al CDSL? <Lord_Athur> no tena idea de ese evento <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> Por que deseas usar edubuntu? <Lord_Athur> eso te demuestra mi falta de informacin <mhz> Lord_Athur: ojala puedas ir <mhz> Lord_Athur: muchas veces no nos enteramos pues hay MUCHO sucediendo <Lord_Athur> porque soy estudiante y simpatizo con las herramientas tecnolgicas que tienen que ver con la educacin <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> adems me gustan los ordenadores <Lord_Athur> pero no los juegos que ellos tengan, ms bien sus sistemas operativos y programas <Lord_Athur> y tambin creo que elinteractuar con trosen ingls me puede acercar ms a Ubuntu y su espritu <Lord_Athur> mhz, tienes Edubuntu, verdad? <mhz> sip <mhz> Lord_Athur: en edubuntu ay mucho por hacer <mhz> hay <Lord_Athur> eso creo <Lord_Athur> a pesar de tener buenas intenciones... <Lord_Athur> creo q para haer una presentacin en una sala de clases debe exister edubuntu-live <Lord_Athur> en mi liceo no dejan hacer intervenciones a los sistemas operativos <Lord_Athur> y por ende edubuntu no presta un servicio muy bueno en ese sentido <mhz> lo mismo digo, pero de haber -es muy probable- solo sera descargable <Lord_Athur> si <mhz> donde estudias? <Lord_Athur> Liceo Lastarria, de providencia <mhz> y hay mas gente que use GnuLinux? <Lord_Athur> eso creo <Lord_Athur> de hecho hay bastantes estudiantes <mhz> Lord_Athur: para ser "miembro" de cualquier equipo, debes decidir: <Lord_Athur> pero no parece haber una sincronizacin entre nosotros <Lord_Athur> dime <mhz> a) sere voluntario de vez en cuando cuando en vez <mhz> b) sere voluntario y aceptare objetivos <mhz> c) sere voluntario y fanatico evangelizador <Lord_Athur> prefiero C <mhz> dpendiendo de la que escojas es la forma <mhz> PERFECTO! <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> enonces, visita LaunchPad, crea un usuario, con el podras editar cualquier pagina en Ubuntu <Lord_Athur> creo tener ya un usuario <mhz> teniendo cuenta en LP, podras sumarte a los equipos oficiales <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> presionando +join link <mhz> Idealmente, escribe un resumen de tus expectativas y contribuciones <mhz> en tu home page del wiki y de LP <mhz> y seras aprobado por c/leader de equipo <Lord_Athur> ok <mhz> en tu wiki, incluye tus objetivos <mhz> basicamente, en estas comunidades se valora mucho los compromisos realizados con exito, los intentos y las caidas. Valoramos mucho la contribucion, la opinion y el espiritu de participar para mejorar <Lord_Athur> es entonces el tipo de comunidad en la que quiero ingresar <mhz> Yo, el martes 22 recien fui aceptado como miembro "oficial" de la comunidad ubuntu. (creo que soy aun el unico chileno y latinoamericano en esa categoria). Claro que sucedio despues de casi 6 meses de bastante trabajo <Lord_Athur> tendr que escribir objetivos en ingls? <Lord_Athur> felicidades <mhz> no necesariamente <mhz> muchas gracias <mhz> Lord_Athur: dentro de mis objetivos es la administarcion de una mailing-list en castelano para edubuntu <mhz> ahora, siendo miembro oficial, puedo hacerlo <Lord_Athur> vaya yo creo estan en unas 5 mailing list de buntu <Lord_Athur> digo ubuntu <mhz> sino, hubieramos dependido de que alguno de los espanoles para ello (y de momento no se han presentado en este proyecto) <Lord_Athur> cuenta para eso conmigo <mhz> gracias! <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> de momento, en edubuntu, de vez en cuando viene arkan0x y pitux <mhz> ambos de Chile <mhz> arkan0x es del CDSL (y estudiante univ. de la chile) <Lord_Athur> CDSL??? <mhz> pitux es estudiante de la USACH <mhz> www.cdsl.cl <mhz> yo, soy miembro de www.tecnocimiento.cl <mhz> y pitux cordina www.matematicaslibre.cl <Lord_Athur> que bien <mhz> cando seas miembro oficial, (habiendo sido sujeto de invitacion y evaluacion del CommunityCouncil) puedes hacerte cargo de responsabilidades en distintos desarrollos (comunitarios o tecnicos) <mhz> de lo contrario, para liderar algun proyecto deberas tener una especie de padrino <mhz> como te dije, donde quieras llegar, como todo en la vida, depende de ti solamente. <Lord_Athur> sip , es verdad <mhz> por mi parte, me engorgullece muchisimo que seas otro chileno en este "voluntariado por mejorar las cosas" <Lord_Athur> gracias <Lord_Athur> donde me dijiste que creara la pgina de inicio? <mhz> al menos, en este canal, la preocupacion principal son dos: desarrollo y soporte edubuntu y la otra: generacion de comunidades educativa <Lord_Athur> ya acabo de hacer mi usuario LP <mhz> tanto en launchpad como en el wiki <mhz> te doy referencias: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/MauricioHernandez y https://launchpad.net/people/mhz <mhz> Lord_Athur: debo encargarme de la cena :( <mhz> vuelvo como en 50 minutos <mhz> estaras? <mhz> podras ir al CDSL manana para la install fest? <Lord_Athur> sip <mhz> genial! <Lord_Athur> pestan en la web las especificaciones? <mhz> nos vemos al rato <Lord_Athur> direcciones y todo <mhz> sip <mhz> sip <Lord_Athur> bien <Lord_Athur> te espero <mhz> de todos modos, probablemente arkan0x esta por llegar aca <Lord_Athur> bye <Lord_Athur> hi <zakame> greetz Lord_Athur <Lord_Athur> hi <Lord_Athur> zakame hello <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> hey <Lord_Athur> zakame, <Lord_Athur> I've instaled edubuntu from ubuntu <Lord_Athur> but when this starts I can see "ubuntu" instead of "edubuntu" <Lord_Athur> what does this mean? <zakame> hmmm, edubuntu comes from ubuntu, after all :) <Lord_Athur> yes <Lord_Athur> but in my father's computer edubuntu says edubuntu (not ubuntu) <zakame> was your computer a new edubuntu install, or an upgrade? <Lord_Athur> the computer of my father and mine are upgrade <Lord_Athur> I've installed this with apt-get <zakame> where do you see this? on the login screen? <Lord_Athur> not <Lord_Athur> in the screen but after of boot and before the login screen <Lord_Athur> :) <zakame> in grub? <Lord_Athur> jajjaa <Lord_Athur> si <Lord_Athur> <arkan0x> mhz_dinner, ping ! * mhz_dinner back <arkan0x> mhz_dinner, ping ! <arkan0x> mhz, ping <mhz> pon <mhz> pong <arkan0x> ya <mhz> arkan0x: Lord_Athur es chileno! <arkan0x> tell me <arkan0x> hi Lord_Athur ! <arkan0x> how are you ? Lord_Athur xD <arkan0x> mhz, tell me <mhz> Lord_Athur: maybe if you reboot, you'll see edubuntu <Lord_Athur> hi arkan0x <Lord_Athur> I've done it mhz <mhz> arkan0x: para el installfest, probablemente tendremos cobertura de chilevision <Lord_Athur> but this does not change <mhz> Lord_Athur: hmmm <arkan0x> mhz, duh ! <Lord_Athur> <mhz> Lord_Athur: y tu /etc/apt/source.list, que tiene comentado? <arkan0x> mhz, pero es confirmado ? avisaste pala lista ? <mhz> no todavia, prefiero que sea sorpresa por si acaso <arkan0x> mhz, yo no prefiero que sea sorpresa <mhz> por que? <arkan0x> pq tu sabes como estan las cosas <mhz> no? <arkan0x> mhz, yo dejaria eso pa la feria de tecn libres <arkan0x> onda un reportaje/nota de ubuntu/edubuntu <mhz> ahhh, bueno, es que el tipo queria ver edubuntu trabajando <arkan0x> mhz, oks <mhz> y ademas queria ver el el installfest <arkan0x> okis <mhz> entonces pense que era mejor matar 2 pajaros de un tiro <arkan0x> igual avisa pala lista <mhz> okey <arkan0x> mhz, manana llegas como alas 10-11? <Lord_Athur> a que lista se refieren? <mhz> a la del cdsl <mhz> arkan0x: sip <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, www.cdsl.cl <arkan0x> mhz, rlz <mhz> arkan0x: y te puedo enviar el papel? <arkan0x> mhz, al mail <mhz> demas, pero alcanzaras a imprimirlo? <arkan0x> osea , si es una pagina ,claro , imprimo por30 <mhz> ooo <arkan0x> si es algo mas cuatico <arkan0x> depende <arkan0x> mhz, tengo laser b/n <mhz> te propongo lo siguiente (estaba trabajndo en las tarjetas de tc) <mhz> dejame pegarle la repasada al papel de ubuntu y te lo mando en 30 mins? <arkan0x> okz <mhz> gracias! <mhz> arkan0x: oye.. <arkan0x> mhz, oigo <mhz> que crees que seria lo problemeatico respecto a chilevision? <arkan0x> que el cdsl no es un ente representativo del software libre en chile , osea se pretende eso , pero como que siento que todavia no tenemos un piso ,osea en chile no siento que alguna agrupacion sea representativa .. <arkan0x> pero como pa salir en la tele <arkan0x> es como mucha carne pa gato chico <arkan0x> quizas en el cdsl piensan que es bacan <mhz> arkan0x: y eso seria negativo? que pasa si con eso llega mas gente de "verdad" a colaborar? <arkan0x> pero esa es mi vision <arkan0x> mhz, puede ser <mhz> arkan0x: totalmente de acuerdo <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, me registr en cdsl pero el e-mail que reciv esta vaco <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, ?? , yap deja revisar <Lord_Athur> gracias <mhz> arkan0x: y se vera mal si chilevision va pa una nota sobre ubuntu? me refiero, se vera mal que sea en el CDSL? <arkan0x> mhz, nu <arkan0x> mhz, pero bueno , ojala que resulte bien y ke se haga mas difusion <mhz> ah, entonces mejor que sea sorpresa. Asi, si llega el tipo y la camara, genial! y en el cdsl se dan cuenta que estamos haciendo las cosas con mas ganas. Si no llega... nunca hubo dano :) <arkan0x> mhz, esque siento ese temor , pq la gente que conozco del mundo SL en chile , pa ellos el cdsl como nu pasa na <arkan0x> mhz, demas <mhz> ni un problema <mhz> arkan0x: por eso siempre trato de que hagamos cosas juntos. Se que tu SI haces las cosas. <mhz> y me da lata que te desgastes porque otros no dan la talla <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, mhz, esto me suele pasar al adherirme a una lista o algo parecido, ser un problema de mi mail? <mhz> o sea, concuerdo en que es necesario hacer las cosas porque te das cuenta que es necesario, y que si uno no lo hace... entonces quien? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, quieres un mail gmail ? <mhz> Lord_Athur: enviame un mail a scottashley@example.org <mhz> Lord_Athur: o un gmail es seguro sin problemas <Lord_Athur> ok <Lord_Athur> entonces usar mi cuenta gmail <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, a ok <Lord_Athur> :) <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, pero no te registres de nuevo <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, te cambio la passwd yo <arkan0x> y te la envio <Lord_Athur> ok <Lord_Athur> te doy mi mail por privado? * mhz phone <Lord_Athur> gracias arkan0x <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, eres de stgo ? <Lord_Athur> si <Lord_Athur> y tu igual, verdad? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, sipos <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, para que participes con nosotros en el cdsl <Lord_Athur> si <Lord_Athur> maana en el encuentro me presentar <Lord_Athur> adems ya casi termina el colegio <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> tu vas en la universidad segn mencion mhz <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, sep <Lord_Athur> actualic mis datos en la poag de cdsl, ahora los mail me llegarn a gmail, verdad? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, nop , osea la idea es participar ,osea ir al cdsl para que te inscribamos en la lista de correo <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, puedes utilizar la web para crear contenido , hacer consultas en tu blog , etc <Lord_Athur> entiendo <Lord_Athur> maana ir a la reunin <Lord_Athur> de cdsl <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, aunque los avisos siempre se publican en la web y en la lista <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, es un install fest <Lord_Athur> ok <Lord_Athur> jajaja <Lord_Athur> entiendo <Lord_Athur> pero.... <Lord_Athur> a que se refiere install fest? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, festival de instalacion <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, llevas tu pc y te instalamos linux <arkan0x> osea , instalamos linux <arkan0x> "juntos" <Lord_Athur> ap ok <Lord_Athur> pero ya tengo instalado linux <Lord_Athur> :S <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, van a ver charlas/demos <Lord_Athur> por eso ir :) <arkan0x> de software grafico y de edubuntu <Lord_Athur> adems quiero empezar a participar <Lord_Athur> en esto de edubuntu <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> Lord_Athur: bienvenido a edubuntu <mhz> Lord_Athur: tecnocimiento en Chile dese hacer el EdubuntuChileanTour <Lord_Athur> gracias <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> para eso estamos organizando una base de datos de cerca de 1000 colegios <Lord_Athur> mhz, me das el enlace a la pag de tecnocimiento por favor? <mhz> para invitar profesores y alumnos a conocer edubuntu y hacer "trabajo de evangelizacion" <mhz> www.tecnocimiento.cl <Lord_Athur> est en la nmina el mo? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, cual colegio ? <mhz> Lord_Athur: si quieres, estara :D <Lord_Athur> Lastarria <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, pinguino xD <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, nonon <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, pitufo x <mhz> hehehehe <Lord_Athur> jajjaa <Lord_Athur> su <Lord_Athur> si as nos dicen <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, por la camisa azul <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, de que colegio eras? <Lord_Athur> si <arkan0x> INBA <Lord_Athur> por la camisa <mhz> Lord_Athur: ademas seria bueno si pudieras ayudarnos con EdubuntuSoftwareList y con EdubuntuStudyPackages <Lord_Athur> INBA? <mhz> ambos conceptos son paginas del wiki.edubuntu.org/ <arkan0x> barros arana <Lord_Athur> ok <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> con EdubuntuSoftwareList, necesitamos conocer para que edades serian utiles las palicaciones (algunas son obvias, pero es mejor especificalras) <mhz> y saber tambien si.. <mhz> son factibles de cruzar con el curriculum o plan de estudio <Lord_Athur> eso creo <mhz> o sea, ej: Kalzium, tabla periodica, quimica, util para 2 y 3 medio? <mhz> coasa asi <Lord_Athur> pero mhz creo que para todo eso es fundamental tener un edubuntu live <Lord_Athur> mhz, la tabla periodica se usa entre 1 y 4 <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> toda la enseanza media segn los planes de estudio regulares <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> demas, pero todavia no podra ser. Sera muy pronto eso si. Y si con tecnocimiento logramos hacer lo que tenemo splaneado, entonces nosotros mismo podremos hacer ese edubuntu live <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> quisiera aprender a programar en linux <mhz> pero por ahora... esperar y trabajar en prepara material para evangelizar <mhz> deberias empezar por python <mhz> hay un libro escrito por un profe super choro, especialmente disenado para ensenar a quien no sabe programar <mhz> y basa toda su ensenanza desde python <Lord_Athur> maana me das el nombre <Lord_Athur> del libro <Lord_Athur> :) <mhz> np <Lord_Athur> ? <mhz> "como pensar como un cientifico de la computacion desde python <mhz> Lord_Athur: np = no problem <Lord_Athur> a ok <Lord_Athur> yo antes programaba en VB para win <Lord_Athur> :P <Lord_Athur> jajaja <mhz> ya es una base <Lord_Athur> era "bsico" <Lord_Athur> jajaja <Lord_Athur> eso creo <mhz> que tambien puedes listar en tu homepage <Lord_Athur> saip <Lord_Athur> digo si <Lord_Athur> :P <Lord_Athur> creo que hay mucho que decir <Lord_Athur> mucho que hablar para mejorar ubuntu, kubuntu y edubuntu <mhz> demas <Lord_Athur> breezy no trae "mail" <Lord_Athur> me gusta escribir mails desde la terminal <mhz> pero es preciso definir las batallas, una a una, paso a paso <Lord_Athur> si <mhz> quizas porque 'mail' no era prioritario, no se. <mhz> en #ubunut-devel se reunen todos los encargados de programar y desarrollar tecnicamente <Lord_Athur> tal vez <Lord_Athur> han de hablar ingls <Lord_Athur> :S <mhz> sip <Lord_Athur> adems <Lord_Athur> los repositorios que trae la instacin de ubuntu, k y edu son muy malos <Lord_Athur> casi nunca encuentro los paquetes <Lord_Athur> que busco <mhz> arkan0x: Lord_Athur: estare revisando el "panfelto" de ubuntu de manana. beepeen me si me necesitan. arkan0x seria prudente habilitar tu 'beep' de XChat :D <mhz> Lord_Athur: pero has editado tu source.list? <Lord_Athur> no con breezy <mhz> ahh <Lord_Athur> he tenido malas experiencias al cambiar el source <Lord_Athur> :S <mhz> descomenta todos los pares de lineas universe y multiverse <mhz> y deja descomentadas las lineas de 'estable' <mhz> para seguridad <Lord_Athur> en el fondo.. descomento todo <mhz> luego update y busca los paquetes que deseas. <arkan0x> mhz, ??>> osea mas rato me envias el documento > <arkan0x> ? <mhz> ccasi todo, si <mhz> ahora mismo estoy en eso :) <Lord_Athur> mhz_editing, <Lord_Athur> espera <Lord_Athur> no tienes un enlace a una lista de soruces? <Lord_Athur> bueno mejor lo hablamos maana <Lord_Athur> Hasta luego arkan0x: mhz_editing: <Lord_Athur> bye <mhz_editing> ogra: hey <mhz_editing> arkan0x: ya <arkan0x> al maile <mhz_editing> scottashley@example.org <arkan0x> yeah! <mhz_editing> avisame como se ve, pls <arkan0x> mhz_editing, podria ser pdf ? ,eske no tengo instalado en arch oo2 <arkan0x> me pase a arch por este rato , taba montando un repositorio de arch <mhz_editing> hehehe, np <mhz_editing> w8 <mhz_editing> yap <arkan0x> oks * arkan0x printing first copy <mhz_editing> cool <arkan0x> mhz_editing, :( problemas con la tipografia <arkan0x> no se ve bien <mhz_editing> chico? gande? <mhz_editing> logo feo? <arkan0x> y recien imprimi algo con tipografia comun <arkan0x> mhz_editing, no <arkan0x> algunas letras no se ven vien <arkan0x> los logos estan guenos <mhz_editing> ejemplo? <arkan0x> es por la fuente utilizada <mhz_editing> :( <mhz_editing> a que hora te levantas manana? <arkan0x> mmm cmo alas 9 <mhz_editing> es que ahora debo ponerme a imprimir tarjetas <arkan0x> mhz_editing, okz <mhz_editing> tan tarde? <mhz_editing> :) <arkan0x> voy a ir a ubuntu para cambiar la tipografia <mhz_editing> si no, podria, una vez sepa como me salen las tarjetas, volver a trabajr en esto <arkan0x> mhz_editing, nnonn <arkan0x> mhz_editing, aora imprimi de nuevo <arkan0x> y salio bien <arkan0x> xD <mhz_editing> ??? <mhz_editing> me estay? <mhz_editing> :D <arkan0x> eske lo hize primero con evince , y dp con gpdf <arkan0x> mhz_editing, no , no te estoy .... <mhz_editing> ahhh <mhz_editing> entonces si sale ok? <arkan0x> mhz_editing, recuerda estoy en archlinux , lo ultimo... <mhz_editing> arkan0x: rlz <mhz_editing> voy a la impresora y vuelvo altiro <arkan0x> ppor ende , unstable, mas encima toy con archlinux testing ... <arkan0x> peor aun xD <mhz_printing> hehehe <arkan0x> mhz_printing, ! <arkan0x> mhz_printing, ! <arkan0x> mhz_printing, problema , difucion es difusion ! <arkan0x> imprimi 7 xD asi <arkan0x> ejje <arkan0x> mhz_printing, modifica porfa lo de difusion , <arkan0x> del pdf <mhz_printing> hey <mhz_printing> arkan0x: estas? <mhz> re <khermans> My client is failing to connect -- error on boot is "Sending ProxyDHCP request to (572)227-8934..." <khermans> it doesnt do anything after that <khermans> i already replaced the /etc/ltsp/dhcp config from 192.168.0 <Yagisan> re <Lord_Athur> Hola <Lord_Athur> hello <Lord_Athur> jejeje <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, aren't you sleeping? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, nop ,pero working <Lord_Athur> ap ok <Lord_Athur> may a carry to the install fest any instalation cd of ubuntu? <Lord_Athur> I won't install it, but maybe other... <Lord_Athur> :P <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, have you got your own homepage in wiki? <arkan0x> Lord_Athur, nop <Lord_Athur> tienes el enlace a la de mhz? <arkan0x> tecnocimiento.cl <Lord_Athur> ok <mhz> hi <Yagisan> G'day mhz <mhz> Yagisan: hey happy and tired gifted daddy <Yagisan> mhz: not so happy - wife is getting bad news about her parents <Yagisan> mhz: One seems very sick <mhz> Yagisan: ooops, sorry to hear that <mhz> what's the prob? <Yagisan> mhz: I'm not sure yet - but my wife is in tears - so it is not good <mhz> man, I am truly sorry. <mhz> difficult sitiations call for extreame solutions <mhz> is praying a solutions for you? <mhz> I mean, is faith a way to face things? * mhz has faith in a huge something but he practices no religion <Yagisan> mhz: I am not a religious person, so that doesn't work for me. I hope too find out the exact details of what is wrong soon <Yagisan> mhz: as she is on the phone to her parents now <mhz> oh, ok, I see. I am not a religious person either, but I always see details that remind me there's something else. <mhz> :) <spacey> mhz, your that MauricioHernandez guy? <spacey> or am i confusing people here <mhz> spacey: yup <mhz> i am <spacey> did you read my mail at list? <mhz> spacey: could you be more spceific ? :D <spacey> the studypackagestuff <spacey> at edubuntu mailinglist <spacey> i replied at your thread <mhz> oooohhh <mhz> so far, I have 8 mails regarding that <mhz> what is your email address? <mhz> so far, Mallory and Herman, and the rest are latinamerican folks <mhz> ogra: morning? <spacey> i'm Herman <spacey> sorry <mhz> duh!, no wonder I couldnt find your match :D <spacey> forget that you can't see it on my nick <mhz> yup <mhz> I am no running from CIA so I can use my name :D <spacey> hehe <spacey> same here <mhz> spacey: indeed, I am looking at sourceforge <mhz> schoolforge <spacey> uh <mhz> sorry <spacey> y <mhz> sorry <mhz> schoolforge <spacey> but they only state that they do content, they don't seem to have it <spacey> and we can just use their stuff if they have <mhz> I remember I saw the project long time ago <spacey> ;p <mhz> yup <spacey> i'll see what comes up tonight <spacey> off to work now. <spacey> cya <Lord_Athur> hi <Lord_Athur> mhz, <Lord_Athur> buen da <mhz> that is why I proposed this edubuntu project. I had visited many sites and none providing real contents <mhz> Lord_Athur: hi there <Lord_Athur> hi <mhz> spacey: thx anyways, please jump in and lets work 2gether <mhz> Lord_Athur: estoy por cerrar mi tarro y arreglar cosasa para ir al CDSL <mhz> iras? <mhz> ogra: my today biz cards include 'edubuntu' logo. I hope it's ok <ogra> mhz, sure <ogra> hi btw <mhz> ogra: and if needed, I can upload the SVG tonite (it is letter size for 10 biz cards each sheet) <mhz> hehehe <mhz> ogra: so, did you read my pinging questions about responsibilities and Launchpad group for study packages? * ogra has company cards from canonical so he doesnt really care ... <mhz> hehehehe <mhz> well, that's diff :D * mhz spent 3 hours between designing them, printing them, cut them, etc <ogra> i think its ok if everyone who is in the edubuntu launchpad team can also print cards ... <ogra> so put them up if you want <ogra> there seems to be no svg version of the CD cover ... <mhz> yup, and you gotta be motivated to do spend 3 hours (1.5 hour only cutting them) <ogra> could you upload one ? <ogra> you can go to a copy shop, the do it for you ;) <ogra> (at least here) <mhz> ogra: yup, there's only SVG version (old with little text mistakes compared o the one in breezy) in the old wiki page EdubuntuCdCoverAndSlip <ogra> nope, thats a png ... you just named it svg <mhz> ogra: yup, but it was 01:30 AM when I started and I have to save each penny for EdubuntuChileanTour <mhz> ogra: wrong :D * mhz will get it to you <Lord_Athur> bye to everyone <Lord_Athur> :) <ogra> mhz, dont get it to me, get it to the wiki ;) <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCdAndSlip?action=AttachFile <ogra> all .svg attachment are pngs there <mhz> ogra: nope, I have just downloaded SVG from that url I just gave you <mhz> :) <ogra> i only get pngs from it, no matter what i try <mhz> weired <ogra> and others apparently too <mhz> and you see all this listing? <mhz> * [get | view] (720.3 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV1.svg <mhz> * [get | view] (32.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV2.png <mhz> * [get | view] (118.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV2.svg <mhz> * [get | view] (205.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverWithWorldV2.svg <mhz> * [get | view] (1162.6 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV1.svg <mhz> * [get | view] (181.2 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV2.png <mhz> * [get | view] (741.8 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV2.svg <ogra> oh, sorry, i used the links from the page... <mhz> ahhh <mhz> see? <ogra> how are users supposed to get the svgs ` <ogra> ? <mhz> I know, I know u r right <mhz> it is just that as Pablo was supposed to provide the last corrections (his text versions were traced so nobody could actually change text to avoid font printing diff) <mhz> I waited and waited to upload the last editable text SVG versions <ogra> why should someone change the text ? <mhz> ok, I'll upload old ones in the meantime <mhz> hmmmmmm, don't know. But we had based our ideas on hoary texts, not breezy <ogra> isnt that the text JaneW approved ? <mhz> and there are some slight diff <mhz> like "for your PC version" <mhz> the back text? yes <mhz> the text on the cd label? yup, but she also mentioned a change in "free to copy" part <mhz> and someonel else pointed the "for your PC version" instead of "x86 version" <ogra> then please change it in the version, but i''m not happy with people makiong random changes to the text <mhz> those minimal text diff, I could not edit becuase of the "traced" texts <ogra> PC version is confusing ... <mhz> *sighs* <mhz> I am just a volunteer <ogra> macintoshes are power *PCs* <mhz> EXACTLY! <ogra> so please leave the architecture as is <mhz> I did not want to change it either, but... <ogra> its the same on the breezy covers afaik <mhz> really? <mhz> now tyou tell men? :D <mhz> now ou tell me? :D <mhz> ahhhh <ogra> i didnt know you were changing it <mhz> EKBD <mhz> okis <ogra> please discuss such changes on the mailing list, dont just silently make them <mhz> so I will change the "free to copy" thing JaneW asked me <ogra> i want to be able to know if i have a ppc, x86 or amd64 CD i install from <mhz> ogra: now I know. I am kind of shy sometimes (only sometimes) <ogra> there must be a way to distinguish them <mhz> :) <mhz> yup, indeed <mhz> okis, so, in the meantime, i'll upload those old versions and tonite, I'll upload new version "free to copy" thing <ogra> yup <mhz> http://www.gnuskole.dk/ <ogra> i think fabbione works with them <mhz> oh, I understood nothing, only the name <mhz> files at home, people can proceed <mhz> ogra: I am leaving for the InstallFest and did I mention TV will be there ? <mhz> ogra: so, did you read my pinging questions about responsibilities and Launchpad group for study packages? <ogra> yup, you did :) ggod luck <mhz> thx * mhz doesnt know if TV coverage will be uploaded <ogra> mhz, yes, i dont understand whats your prob with it ... the project needs someone to be responsible for it... <mhz> ogra: no problem at all <ogra> so thats why jane asked if you take that responsibility <mhz> just ignorant about ubuntu procedures <mhz> I can take responsibilities, no problem <mhz> wondering if organizing group work means I also have to crate a group in LaunchPad? or it is only needed via wiki, etc. <ogra> since the packages will be separate for now (or do you think you can make it in the next 6 weeks before UVF ?) i dont think you need to match any ubuntu procedures yet <ogra> it would be cool to have a launchpad team for it ... <ogra> so you can track who is committed to the project <mhz> oohh, I see. That info I didnt know it. <mhz> LP/ yup, i thought so but I had to ask before, or no? <ogra> upstream version freeze means there will be no new upstream versions of packages * mhz remembers ogra "suffered" that sindrom :D <ogra> this is around mid/end of january ... i'd have to look it up in the release schadule, there is the xact date <mhz> okis, so I have more info for my talk now. <mhz> thx for clarifying that to me <mhz> BTW, edubuntu was 57 yeasterday at distrowathc :( <ogra> we are fully bound to the ubuntu release schedule ... <mhz> no problem, I think it has its positiveness <mhz> ogra: have a nice day <mhz> bye <ogra> you too :) <lucasvo> why is kubuntu-artwork-usplash a dependency of kubuntu-desktop? <crimsun> -ECHANNEL? <lucasvo> I want to have edubuntu usplash and not kubuntu, how can I set the bootsplash? <lucasvo> crimsun: ? <crimsun> install edubuntu-artwork-usplash <ogra> lucasvo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` <ogra> after installing edubuntu-artwork-usplash indeed <crimsun> yep, gotta run that step <ogra> there was no usplash upgrade option in breezy and reconfiguring linux-image from another package on upgrades is evil ... so you have to run it manually ... <lucasvo> ogra: the problem is I installed the kubunut-desktop because I would like to have kde but I can't remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash... <ogra> dapper has a usplash upgrade option without touching the linux-image package <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ dpkg --list | grep usplash <lucasvo> ii edubuntu-artwork-usplash 0.1.0-9 edubuntu artwork for usplash <lucasvo> ii kubuntu-artwork-usplash 5.10-19 kubuntu artwork for usplash <lucasvo> ii usplash 0.1-22 Userspace bootsplash utility <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ <ogra> just remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash <ogra> it does no harm... <lucasvo> I last installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash and I can't remove it because it is a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop <lucasvo> and I want kde <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash <lucasvo> Reading package lists... Done <lucasvo> Building dependency tree... Done <lucasvo> The following packages will be REMOVED: <lucasvo> kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-desktop <lucasvo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. <ogra> thats fine <crimsun> you only need to install edubuntu-artwork-usplash and execute the dpkg-reconfigure command that ogra gave you <ogra> you wont loose kde <lucasvo> so what is kubuntu-desktop? <ogra> a metapackage <crimsun> (like edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop) <ogra> it only cares for pulling in all the kde stuff <lucasvo> aha <lucasvo> ok <ogra> you might need it if you onceupgrade the complete system to the next release, but until then its useless <lucasvo> ogra: ok <ogra> as well as the other -desktop packages .. <lucasvo> ogra: what is release of edubuntu dapper? <ogra> ? <lucasvo> when will it be released? <ogra> april <lucasvo> s/what/when/g <lucasvo> ogra: no exact date available/ <ogra> we always release in april and october <ogra> look at the release schedule on the iki... i cant remember from the top of my head <ogra> *wiki <lucasvo> ok <lucasvo> ogra: is dapper available for non-developers as an image or package server? <ogra> sure, but you dont want to try it yet :) <lucasvo> ogra: whats wrong? <ogra> you can either change your repositorys to upgrade to dapper ... or grab an image from cdimage.ubuntu.com <ogra> kernel and hardware detection changes for example <ogra> the bootprocess gets reworked completely... <ogra> if you dont know how to solve problems on a very low level you wont be able to boot at one point etc ... if aou feel confident you can work around bugs and breakage, try it ;) <lucasvo> hm miuubuntu ist stalled on dapper roadmap :( <ogra> whats miuubuntu <ogra> ? <lucasvo> ogra: I don't know how to make the "miu" on my keyboard <ogra> you mean micro ? <lucasvo> ogra: yes <lucasvo> the greek letter miu <ogra> thats idling since hoary ... <lucasvo> ogra: yes too bad <ogra> i dont think anybody has time for it ... <lucasvo> is there any way how to speed it up as a normal user? <ogra> develop it ;) <lucasvo> ogra: not as a developer <ogra> find developers doing it for you would be the alternative then :) <lucasvo> ogra: make a bounty? <ogra> if you have the money :) <lucasvo> ogra: I don't <lucasvo> ogra: makr shuttleworth has it :D <ogra> he would bounty it if he would like to put money in it :) <lucasvo> ogra: too bad that normal users don't write bugreports <lucasvo> one should make it more easy <ogra> we have 20000 bugs in bugzilla... do you think they are only written by developers ? <ogra> normally normal users write bugreports :) <Yagisan> lucasvo: I write bug reports <Yagisan> lucasvo: and occasionally, the patch that fixes it too. I'm just a "normal" user <lucasvo> Yagisan: I do as well, <lucasvo> but my sister doesn't :D <lucasvo> and I don't have time to teach her how to do it so one should make a guide <Yagisan> lucasvo: why ? click report a new bug, type description, click ok - how hard is that ? <Yagisan> mhz is gone now isn't he ? <lucasvo> Yagisan: say why one should report bugs, where one should report bugs etc. <ogra> Yagisan, yup... he does a presentation <Yagisan> ogra: thanks <Yagisan> lucasvo: Do we really need to state that if you don't report it, it won't be fixed ? <Yagisan> lucasvo: it is already documented on the ubuntu.com website <lucasvo> ogra: will you teacher administration panel applet work when you will release dapper? <ogra> depends how many people contribute to it <ogra> its not my main focus <lucasvo> is there any way how to open rar files with archivmanager? <juliux> lucasvo, you have to install unrar i think <ogra> most likely unrar-nonfree from multiverse <lucasvo> juliux: thanls <lucasvo> thanks <juliux> lucasvo, np <lucasvo> I would like to have openmosix on ltsp client's <lucasvo> :D <lucasvo> if you want to migrate from normal client structure to ltsp you want to keep your old powerful hardware and use it, you don't want to buy a new server... <ogra> currently we have some rather basic tasks to do... things like clustering have no high priority yet... <ogra> thats a dapper+1 thing ... <lucasvo> ogra: are there any dapper+1 name proposals? <ogra> nope, not yet <ogra> nobody thinks about dapper+1 now :) <lucasvo> ogra: a friend has a working openmosix & ltsp server client environnment, but with debian kernel 2.4 <ogra> thats no option... we'll never use 2.4 <lucasvo> ogra: I first have to try out how to build a normal kernel before building one with openmosix <ogra> you use kernel-package for ubuntu kernels <lucasvo> ogra: you mean the source? <ogra> nope, the package kernel-package has all the tools you need to build a package with the kernel for ubuntu <ogra> i.e. make-kpkg which is the most essential part <lucasvo> ogra: when I build my own ltsp kernel, I can disable scsi and ide/sata? <lucasvo> to speed up booting? <ogra> doesnt matter if you have no ide controller the modules wont get loaded anyway ... <ogra> and note that building a kernel right that even works with initramfs is non-trivial ... <lucasvo> non-trivial, I don't understand? <ogra> afaik openmosix doesnt work with scottashley@example.org... but i might be wrong <ogra> its a task *i* wouldnt do <lucasvo> ogra:it says avaible from CVS <lucasvo> ogra: but isn't there already the configure-file from the actual kernel in the fs? <ogra> sure <ogra> so you can look up whats built in <lucasvo> ogra: I thought one can copy it to current kernel source and than use make-xconf or whatever it is called, to adjust it? <ogra> sure <ogra> but you should use make-kpkg to create a linux-image package ... else you wont get it working with ubuntus initramfs <thak> anyone have any thoughts on what to look for when my thin clients can't even get an ip address from my edubuntu ltsp server? <littlepaul> question about https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LTSPHowTo <- is this howto not obsolete now? <ogra> not for warty and hoary <ogra> but it should be noted in red and 48pt bold letters that itsn not for > hoary <littlepaul> ogra you mean breezy? :) <ogra> i meant bigger than hoary <littlepaul> k <ogra> ;) <littlepaul> ok; breezy uses ltsp 4.13 right? <ogra> sorry ... programmer <ogra> nope <lucasvo> my mouse on ltsp client doesn't work anymore :( <ogra> breezy uses its own implementation <littlepaul> i know but which version is this? Or do you have another number convention? <ogra> yes, breezy ltsp 0.58 <littlepaul> ok <ogra> ltsp.org is adopting it as ltsp 4.2 <littlepaul> so in near future the differences should be smaller between this implementations? <ogra> yes <littlepaul> i will try to write down some german answers - i kind of faq :) but I will need your help; I have read the logfiles of the last 3 weeks and found interesting some questions/answers <lucasvo> crap! I can't get my mouse on the client to work <ogra> what did you break ? <lucasvo> ogra: just made a new ltsp system <lucasvo> sudo ltsp-build-client <lucasvo> ogra: do you know what I could have done wrong? <lucasvo> ogra: reboot doesn't work <ogra> is the psmouse module loaded on the client ? <ogra> (you need to set a root pw in the chroot and log in on console) <lucasvo> ah yes exactly I need to do this <lucasvo> that's what I did last time <ogra> add psmouse to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/modules <ogra> but i still would like to know why its not getting loaded ... <ogra> must be a udev/hotplug bug <lucasvo> yes <AstroKing> I have a Grub question with Error 18. I'm a newbie, just so you know. Google said it's something to do with grub being installed beyond the last cylinder of the hard drive (this is an old 10 gig drive on a P2-400mhz.). Is there any way to fix or move grub? I've tried installing this twice and it's the same error. <ogra> change the LBA setting for your disk in the BIOS <AstroKing> Can you tell me what LBA stands for? <ogra> logical block adressing or something similar <AstroKing> in the BIOS it says size is 528 and cylinders 1024, head 16. it's in AUTO mode, so i'm assuming it's detecting this correctly. <AstroKing> got it fixed! i did change that setting but also used ultimate boot cd to reinstall grub. it's booting up now..thanks a million, ogra. <ogra> :) <lucasvo> ogra: soon you are a millionaire <ogra> heh <ogra> nope i dont want to be one ... <AstroKing> too much taxes, lol <ogra> i work for one, thats enough ;) <lucasvo> ogra: communist? <lucasvo> ogra: lol <ogra> nope, but for a million you also have to do work for a million ... <lucasvo> ogra: that is true <lucasvo> ogra: like get out into space for affrica? :D <ogra> uuh, i wouldnt want that ... even if its exciting if mark talks about ... <ogra> if i could just beam into ISS i'd surely go :) <lucasvo> ogra: is it an unpleasant flight/ <ogra> yes <ogra> and i got enough with flying to all these conferences <ogra> i'm not a big fly fan.... <ogra> neither of the insects nor of the activity <lucasvo> ogra: you go to conferences in london? <ogra> the edubuntu summit was there ... beginnig of the year <Lord_Athur> heyhi <Lord_Athur> :) <Lord_Athur> does anyone have a soures list for edubuntu breezy? <Lord_Athur> <Lord_Athur> come on! <bluefrog-10> same as ubuntu <Lord_Athur> but <Lord_Athur> with the default lista of sources I cannot install any programs <bluefrog-10> and what is your default? <Lord_Athur> mmm <Lord_Athur> do I write to you a copy of the breezy sources list ? <bluefrog-10> synaptic > repositories shows what? <bluefrog-10> pastebin.com <Lord_Athur> ok <littlepaul> bluefrog-10, I read you have made a bash script with menus to install/configure apt-proxy. Can I have a look at it? <bluefrog-10> sending it to you... <bluefrog-10> littlepaul, accept the file works or not? <littlepaul> bluefrog-10, pls send it to scottashley@example.org; it didn't worked <bluefrog-10> i paste it to pastebin.com <littlepaul> k <bluefrog-10> just put it in a file and make u+x <littlepaul> thx <bluefrog-10> http://pastebin.com/439106 <littlepaul> got it; thx <bluefrog-10> hum hang on need to send it to u by mail apparently pastebin has a limitation on the number of lines... <bluefrog-10> don't see all the lines i have in my script <bluefrog-10> u should have it by mail by now... <littlepaul> got it; and now I'm also aware about this line limitation :) <bluefrog-10> just run the script, a menu will appear in your terminal, then it's pretty much straight forward.. <bluefrog-10> it's not the best code written as 4 days before I didn't know anything about bash but so far it's working.. <littlepaul> I will show this script to juliux; we are next week in Essen <bluefrog-10> littlepaul, and by the way any comment interests me (especially bad ones..) <juliux> littlepaul, which script? <bluefrog-10> as it is it's not finished as i need to implementsamb-ldap user management but didn't have time <littlepaul> the script I got a few minutes ago :) a bash script with menus to install/configure apt-proxy. <bluefrog-10> but every menu that is implemented so far works ok on a fresh install... <juliux> hm i don't need apt-proxy, i have a mirror in the lan <littlepaul> the scripts brings much more than apt-proxy :) <bluefrog-10> and i found out few days ago that i could do nice boxes with zenity so am going to do that when time will allow me.. <littlepaul> yes zentiy is a nice thing <bluefrog-10> hum only samba-ldap (no ssl) <littlepaul> ok <bluefrog-10> if any can improve the samba-ldap to working with ssl (not difficult, i should have done it) but especially with tls (samba part), I'll be glad, I foun d a lot of theory everywhere on the web but no one with a working example <bluefrog-10> ldap ssl easy, samba tls another story (at least for me <littlepaul> :/ <littlepaul> bluefrog-10, did ogra already had look over your script? <bluefrog-10> i should have put a warning for apt-proxy, use a static address... <bluefrog-10> no <bluefrog-10> talk to him once that i waas doing something but he hasn't seen it <bluefrog-10> wanted to put it on wiki but i wanted to implement the samb-ldap user management before doing so to give people not a half finished samb-ldap implementation.. <bluefrog-10> littlepaul, you can distribute it if u want it has been done for that purpose anyway... #edubuntu 2005-12-02 <littlepaul> bluefrog-10, ogra is next week also in Essen; maby we can talk about your script <bluefrog-10> up to u, glad if it can help... <littlepaul> juliux, still here? <bluefrog-10> littlepaul, hum am running the samba-ldap installation right now on my new server, have fiidled with a user input stuff and i poopooed, am going to change it and will send you the working script by mail.. <littlepaul> great <bluefrog-10> littlepaul, by the way my samba-ldap script works on a normal eud/ubuntu not a server install (too many things not installed by a server installation..) <littlepaul> this is a good hint because juliux has a server install and we have in Essen just his server; nevertheless I will talk about this script :) <bluefrog-10> the problem with the server install is that it's missing (amongst other things) too many perl stuff to my taste and as most of people will install anyway a complete edubuntu/ubuntu (at least teacher) I made it simple for me.. <littlepaul> :) <bluefrog-10> now you could have a look what it does (samba-ldap) on a server install, am still interested in the output.. <bluefrog-10> k have corrected the stuff, samb-ldap runnning ok (so far) on my new server.. sending you the corrected sh <littlepaul> if we have the change to test it - I'll inform you; thx again <bluefrog-10> littlepaul btw do you know anything about /etc/skel (by anything i mean more than theory..)? <littlepaul> sorry, I didn't played yet with /etc/skel - also just theory... <bluefrog-10> k <bluefrog-10> last thing am not that worried about my script on a server install cause someone who makes a server install would have little interest i think in an automation script ... <littlepaul> you could be right but such a script is maby for schools administrators with less knowledge very interesting <bluefrog-10> that was my purpose indeed. <littlepaul> atm I'm writing a short faq in german about edubuntu; more or less a resume from the answers that I read in the logs of the last weeks <bluefrog-10> schools or small companies with a computer litterate guy but not too much litterate.. <littlepaul> :) <bluefrog-10> or without too much time. my script enables samba-ldap in 1 minute (from the time all packages are downloaded). It just needs a reboot to be fully working (reboot is not compulsory but i forgot to implement I think a restart of sudo or pam or ssh, can't remember which...) <bluefrog-10> will do when have time in front of me <littlepaul> do yo work atm also on other things? <bluefrog-10> unfortunately no, need to find a job cause i have no more money and a kid to feed... <littlepaul> I understand.. <bluefrog-10> i have put much effort in that cause one of the only way (if i want to stay in computer business) for me is to open my own service company, so i needed to be able to service people in linux (am coming from windows admin world...) <littlepaul> this is quite right; Personally I'm working also in the windows world and linux will be essential in future <bluefrog-10> essential well maybe not but when you have no money to put in front to buy freking machines that all comes with windows, yes :) <bluefrog-10> and i don't know about germany but in france margin on a computer is around 8%. <bluefrog-10> don't make a leaving with 8% except if you have big customers, but big customers means big computer command... vicious circle... <littlepaul> sure :/ <bluefrog-10> everything will be alright as soon as i win the lottery, note for myself, should not forget everyweek to play the lottery... <bluefrog-10> k time to hit the sac, gutte nacht <littlepaul> gute Nacht and thx for your time <bluefrog-10> welcome... <^eniac^> hi all, I have one question... <^eniac^> From where I can get the edubuntu source code? <^eniac^> I want to make one small distribution... <^eniac^> Education distribution - for bulgarian students and schools... <spacey> maybe look at making a derivative scottashley@example.org <spacey> why is edubuntu itself nog suitable? <^eniac^> I don't know... witch is better? <spacey> what do you mean? <spacey> and what are your needs <^eniac^> livecd distribution <^eniac^> sorry, my english is verry bad... <spacey> afaik its not too hard to make a customized live cd <spacey> but i have no experience on it myself, but there is probably some documentation <^eniac^> from where? <^eniac^> I am a bug lamer.... <spacey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?highlight=%28build%29%7C%28livecd%29 <^eniac^> big <^eniac^> 10x <spacey> goodluck <spacey> i'm off to work <spacey> bb <^eniac^> ok, np. but i want the souce code. sorry... for the last time... <^eniac^> I want to upgrade my bios and I need to restart (for window$). bye ... <spacey> that dude doesn't speak english at all, he just types some english words :D <lucasvo> hi <juliux> hi lucasvo <lucasvo> is there any iBook support for ltsp? <juliux> hi Yagisan <Lord_Athur> pi <aeon17x> Does edubuntu have GNU Paint installed by default? <thak> does anyone know how to force a thinclient to a specific resolution? i've tried the X_MODE_x commands, and they don't seem to work... <pc22> hello? <littlepaul> hi ogra; your opinion about http://www.110-support.de/edubuntu_german.odt <Yagisan> re <Yagisan> G'day juliux <juliux> Yagisan, that was an great reactiontime <Yagisan> juliux: yeah - I left myself logged in, then went to do "Dad stuff" <juliux> Yagisan, hehe <Yagisan> juliux: Still doing the dad thing, my son is sitting on my lap being introduced to IRC :) <juliux> Yagisan, that is quite good <juliux> Yagisan, don't show him the evil windows <Yagisan> juliux: I don't have windows around anymore <juliux> Yagisan, very good <juliux> Yagisan, i also don't have a windows in my pcs <Yagisan> juliux: I'm updating my repo tonight - 2.2GB to be updated! <juliux> Yagisan, good luck <Yagisan> juliux: I think I might be getting a mirror for it soon <juliux> Yagisan, fortunately i have the german mirror in my lan <juliux> it is very fast <Yagisan> juliux: I just have my 2.2GB of rejected by ubuntu stuff on my ADSL line (256Kbit upstream) <Yagisan> juliux: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/analog.html <Yagisan> juliux: I only recently began collecting stats <Yagisan> crap - he puked <Yagisan> brb <Lord_Athur> arkan0x, <Lord_Athur> Hola <Lord_Athur> :P <arkan0x> Lord_Athur: ola <Lord_Athur> acurdate de ah de agregarme a la mailing list <Lord_Athur> Sabes a que hora entrar el mhz? <Yagisan> re <Lord_Athur> Yagisan, what do you say?? <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: No, we don't know when mhz will log in <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: re ? returned <Lord_Athur> ok <Lord_Athur> Aok <Yagisan> hey - google translate worked :) <spacey> would be great if everyone speaks english though <Lord_Athur> jajaja <spacey> :) <Lord_Athur> yes <Lord_Athur> :) <spacey> my spanish is a bit flaky to say the lest <spacey> least <Lord_Athur> but when it's something personal, we do not need to speak english, really? <Lord_Athur> well, don't worry; i'll talk to everyone in english <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: well, it is an international forum, we need to standardise on a language. Otherwise I eg could talk in <kjcole> Esperanto! <Lord_Athur> ok, I understood <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: no worries, let us know if you have trouble and well try to explain it better for non-native english speakers <Yagisan> juliux: I seem to have a very popular mirror :) <juliux> Yagisan, hehe <juliux> Yagisan, my mirror here is also ftp.de.debian.org, <juliux> Yagisan, and i have an mirror on my harddisk * Yagisan cries, my adsl connection can't compete with that <Lord_Athur> what's the channel of the edubuntu developers? <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: this is it <juliux> Lord_Athur, here <Lord_Athur> I'm trying of learn programing for Linux <Yagisan> Lord_Athur: we are developers, users, beta testers, documentation writers, all here in this channel <Lord_Athur> I'd like to colavorate in edubuntu <Lord_Athur> what program is easy to try? <ogra> do you want to develop gui stuff ? <Lord_Athur> yes, I do <Lord_Athur> :) <ogra> then i'd suggest python and
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