#ubuntu-us-mi 2011-04-01 <snap-l> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/01/i-am-jef-spaleta/ <snap-l> I really am not looking forward to tomorrow <_stink_> oh god. me neither. <rick_h_> crap, I read that at first and wondered wtf, didn't realize tomorrow is april tools day :/ <rick_h_> ok, so if you can't copy and paste code from a pastebin to your project does that mean I get to revoke your dev card? <brousch> damnit. i hate april fools. i never know if something is real <brousch> yes, revoke away <rick_h_> heh, make sure you hit up xkcd, but not via rss <brousch> go to a web page? barbaric <rick_h_> yea, I know, some of this stuff is borderline...so not funny that it's almost believable so you have to go "could they really be that stupid?" <brousch> not even stupid, just unsure if its real <brousch> http://massive.immersedcode.org/2011/staging/projects/default/python/flask-enterprise/ <rick_h_> phew, so march is done, 44.613 GB of podcast downloads <rick_h_> heh, well flask was an april fools joke to start with <brousch> i know <brousch> so is this weirdly-licensed thing with no access to source code real? <rick_h_> only if it's downloaded some 15k times <brousch> i think it must be fake. the license and no ability to contribute patches gives it away <brousch> whoa, freaky xkcd <rick_h_> yea <brousch> sigh http://garbaginator.cartwheelweb.com/ <rick_h_> yea, saw that one <rick_h_> no offense, but no need to dupe the horrible april fools stuff, get enough of it already :) <brousch> right <jrwren> i like the readme.rst on garbaginator github <jrwren> hahaha, and hte LICENSE.xt <brousch> hah, i didn't go into the actual code <brousch> actual repo i should say <wolfger> <_< <wolfger> >_> <wolfger> Good morning. <brousch> oooh, viewsonic gtab for $299, no joke http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7212231 <brousch> 10.1" android tablet <wolfger> thinkgeek always is full of win on April 1st <wolfger> to make up for the rest of the internet sucking <snap-l> Yeah, they're getting slashdotted. <wolfger> and, as usual, they have some gag products people would actually buy <brousch> i want those pork rinds <wolfger> I mean, I would love to see the No-3D glasses available, so that people will quit bitching about 3D movies. :-) <brousch> thinkgeek is in ann arbor. do they have a storefront there? <snap-l> Um, TG is in VA <brousch> it is? <brousch> darnit <snap-l> and has a warehouse in Ohio <tjagoda> There is no storefront <snap-l> brousch: And the Dexter office is in... wait for it... Dexter Michigan <wolfger> brousch: snap-l is April foolin' you <brousch> fine, put the store in dexter <snap-l> not to be confused with Dexter's Lab or Dexter <wolfger> They are in AA. I'll take you there sometime <wolfger> It's very cool place. <wolfger> :-) <snap-l> brousch: I'll be happy to sell you things in Ann Arbor <snap-l> and we ca call it Thinkgeek if you want <brousch> bring some of those pork rinds sunday <snap-l> since it'll be a satellite store, it won't have the full selection <brousch> weak <snap-l> in fact, it'll just be me taking your money <tjagoda> http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/e8bb/?pfm=AprilFools_homepage_Featured_9 <tjagoda> ahhh thinkgeek <tjagoda> <3 <snap-l> !openmetalcast goes clubbing, with the very first Club Metal episode: http://ur1.ca/3q39o (no fooling). Implant it in your biochip now! * wolfger is dubious... Club Metal? <snap-l> It's an industrial show <wolfger> So far, I <3 <3 <3 the instrumentalcasts and :( :( :( anything else. <snap-l> wolfger: You should try this <snap-l> I think you might like it <wolfger> OK, I will try it. <tjagoda> http://www.r2d2central.com/story/front/New_Full_Size_R2D2_Vacuum_137420.asp <snap-l> I'm not clicking on any links today. ;) <tjagoda> Weak. <snap-l> http://freelish.us/ <snap-l> rick_h_: ^^ <wolfger> Nice double-standard there <greg-g> ? <wolfger> "I'm not clicking any links today. Oh, btw, here's a link..." <greg-g> dudes, hulu.com <wolfger> so who's using Gmail Motion? ;-) <rick_h_> heh, I thought it was april fools at first: freelish.us is a microblogging service. Users post short (0 character) notices which are broadcast to their friends and fans using the Web, RSS, or instant messages. <wolfger> 0-character? That *is* short! <rick_h_> yea <snap-l> Yeah, I thought it was a joke as well <snap-l> wolfger: Let me rephrase: I'm not clicking on stupid links today. ;) <rick_h_> but yea, that's what we were looking at, ostatus and such <greg-g> rick_h_: nice 44 gigs of lococast! <_stink_> haha, Kids in the Hall clips. <snap-l> _stink_: we all know who was watching Channel 9 when they were younger. ;) <_stink_> hehe <snap-l> "I watched Mr. Dressup and Sesame Street in French" <snap-l> JoDee didn't like Sesame Street. I blame the French version of Sesame Street. <snap-l> The Spanish version was far superior <tjagoda> https://blog.opendns.com/2011/04/01/announcing-the-%25e2%2580%259cinternet-phonebook%25e2%2580%259d/ <greg-g> ugh <greg-g> JonathanD: I have to admit, I don't think I've met you, have I? I don't remember knowing any Freenode staff, at least. <JonathanD> greg-g: you haven't :P <greg-g> JonathanD: well that's good then, at least my memory isn't as bad as what my gf says :) <wolfger> greg-g: lucky guess != good memory :-) <greg-g> wolfger: fair <wolfger> Holy crap. IE9 scores 100% on ACID3? <tjagoda> http://www.ironsky.net/site/support/therace/ <snap-l> I am currently streaming from my computer via the Squeezebox server to my iPhone using Safari, connecting to http://lister:9000/stream.mp3, playing Testament <snap-l> We are truly living in the future. * wolfger drags snap-l kicking and screaming back to the present. <wolfger> no flying cars for you <JonathanD> greg-g: I'm from PA :) <JonathanD> One of my "jobs" with freenode though is to help organize events in the eastern US, which is why I'm in a lot of ubuntu-us-state channels. <greg-g> JonathanD: ahh, right on <greg-g> well, welcome, make yourself at home :) <JonathanD> Keeping the ear to the ground and all that. * greg-g nods <snap-l> Hopefully we don't lose our charter. ;) <wolfger> Big Brother is here. He's surveilling us. :-p * _stink_ stomps loudly <Milyardo> Has anyone else used libhibernate in Maverick? <wolfger> http://textaligncentaur.com/ <Milyardo> Not as cool as EyeDrops but funny none the less <snap-l> http://www.eclipsephase.com/original-art-auction-support-libyan-rebels <snap-l> http://identi.ca/notice/70209858 <_stink_> zing! <jrwren> Milyardo: is libhybernate the java library? <snap-l> rick_h_: Got some feedback on the Jasom Smith interview. <rick_h_> snap-l: oh yea? <greg-g> stupid frat boys playing rave music on the diag disturbing my work environment <brousch> go tell those kids to get off yer lawn <snap-l> greg-g: you have my permission to blast them with whatever music you have available to you <brousch> urination is discouraged though <wolfger> I encourage it. In the appropriate facilities. <greg-g> snap-l: :) blast them some OMC out of my..... erm, laptop speakers :( <snap-l> greg-g: I'll be right over with the big guns. ;) <greg-g> sweet <jrwren> saving the world from bad music, 1 tank of gas at a time. <Milyardo> jrwren: Yeah, I keep getting ClassNotFound exceptions for org.hibernate.validator.HibernateValidator even though I have hibernate-validaor.jar in my classpath <wolfger> greg-g: Tell them if they're going to play rave music, they have to supply you with some E. Or even e17. ;-) <Milyardo> also I was wonder why the libhibernate-entitymanager-java package conflicts with libhibernate3 <Milyardo> *wondering <Milyardo> hrmm libhibernate3-entitymanager-java says its its a dependency of of libhibernate3-java but libhibernate3-java doesn't list list libhibernate-entitymanager-java as a dependecy <Milyardo> time to file bug reports <jrwren> it should be a DAG. <jrwren> cycles are bad, mmm kay <Milyardo> DAG? <jrwren> directed acyclic graph <Milyardo> oh for the depedencies <Milyardo> In the meantime I wonder why I'm getting the ClassNotFound exception <Milyardo> unless HibnernateValidator is in entitymanager <Milyardo> which would be counterintuitive <greg-g> wolfger: :P <greg-g> http://coffeecommon.com/post/6014050377/single-cup-vs-single-cup <greg-g> no aprilfools, don't worry <snap-l> Is there a command-line debugger for PHP code? <tjagoda> The following is a quote from the Sysadmin words of wisdom list <tjagoda> "Never... under any circumstances... use a Dell GX270 for anything that is even remotely important... ever. " <snap-l> I'll shut up about squeezebox server in a bit, but I'm running mpg123 http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 on my home machine. <snap-l> tjagoda: Those machines should be practically run as thin clients if anything <Milyardo> libhibernate3-java has hibernate-entitymanager-jar in it, so why is there a libhibernate-entitymanager? <Milyardo> *.jar <Milyardo> grrrr <snap-l> Welcome to Java <Milyardo> I'm not sure if thats a Java issue, more like a really dumb packaging issue <snap-l> http://i.imgur.com/u9g93.jpg <- Blue Ray Player <snap-l> I think one leads to the other <greg-g> ummmm, snap-l rick_h_ _stink_ : https://identi.ca/doc/bookmarklet <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, saw that with their bookmark specific status.net today <rick_h_> http://freelish.us/ <snap-l> That's also one of the ideas that I had <snap-l> ie: federated bookmarks <rick_h_> right <rick_h_> it sure seems they're shoe-horning this into existing status.net though <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, it is <snap-l> But it goes to show that we're not the only ones thinking that Delicious was a walled bookmark garden <rick_h_> oh yea <rick_h_> like I said when it came up earlier, it's the same thing I've got set to look at, ostatus and pubsub kind of thing <snap-l> yep <snap-l> We'll conquer the world yet <snap-l> and get our own Cayman islands <snap-l> I want the one on the left. <rick_h_> heh, anyone know the right sql for altering a column in pgsql from char to int? <snap-l> DROP TABLE xxx; <snap-l> CREATE TABLE xxx... ;) <snap-l> (not offhand, though it's likely ALTER TABLE) <greg-g> rick_h_: definite shoe-horning, yes <rick_h_> bah, casting error now <greg-g> (sorry, I'm dumping links and leaving, only coming back a fwe minutes later to reply, one of those days) <snap-l> It's because greg-g is busy saving the Internet <snap-l> The Copyright Crusader <greg-g> actually, this one thing I'm working on, I could argue that is indeed what I'm doing (in a very convoluted logical process, but still) <brousch> add int column, run script to convert them all, del char column, rename int column? <snap-l> fighting corporate whores by day <rick_h_> there we go, <3 http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/archives/29-How-to-convert-a-table-column-to-another-data-type.html <rick_h_> brousch: yea, trying to run an app in pgsql <rick_h_> between all the damn camel case, and defining columns as string in one table and int in another...not going as smooth as hoped <snap-l> I hated that at Chrysler <jrwren> sounds like a terrible schema. <rick_h_> it is <rick_h_> I've been slowly correcting it since I got here <snap-l> one of the tables they had was clearly intended to not be varchar <rick_h_> but can only do so much without blowing it up <snap-l> so they had shit in there for data <rick_h_> finally have almost allof it in ORM vs manual queries <snap-l> so they'd get stuff in there like ... <snap-l> Or N/A <rick_h_> lol <snap-l> Yay, cumulative security update for IE6 <brousch> you use ie6? <brousch> how many of you will be there sunday? <snap-l> brousch: I have a corporate Xp laptop. Need you ask? <snap-l> I'm planning on being there on Sunday. <tjagoda> Oi vey <tjagoda> I need a new Tech track head for 2012 penguicon <tjagoda> Do we have any young impressionable tech folks? =P <rick_h_> brousch: will be there as well <snap-l> tjagoda: What happened this time around? <snap-l> Is Krunal not working out? <snap-l> or is he not doing it again <tjagoda> Well <tjagoda> He never attended meetings/asked questions/did anything <tjagoda> and when challenged responds "nobody ever told me" <brousch> doesn't it all just fall into place by itself? <tjagoda> so not working out/not doing it <tjagoda> /murder brousch <snap-l> Why does it seem that the tech track always ends in tears ? <rick_h_> PC has a tech track :P <rick_h_> ? <tjagoda> stfu <rick_h_> sorry, just kidding <snap-l> Hah hah only serious <tjagoda> It's hard to find tech people whom have organizational skills and are non-lazy <rick_h_> yea, and aren't crazy busy <tjagoda> People tend to use busy as an excuse more than they are actually busy I have found <tjagoda> But I will give you the point <snap-l> and have high tolerance for BS. <tjagoda> Oh yeah <tjagoda> That too <tjagoda> It is a very young organization after all <brousch> d00d i am busy playing mario kart wii <tjagoda> seriously <tjagoda> mario kart is srs bsns <snap-l> Blu Sprks FTW! <brousch> what is srs bsns? <brousch> i d not understand this canadian slang <tjagoda> srs bsns = serious business <tjagoda> Anybody want to design a penguicon website for 2012? <tjagoda> http://www.penguicon.org is ugly <tjagoda> Silence overwhelming ;) <brousch> tjagoda: are you seizing control of pc? lining up tech leads and web sites <snap-l> tjagoda: I think we're all weighing the need vs the bickering that will occurring. <snap-l> insert appropriate tense in that last sentence. <tjagoda> brousch: I am the convention head for the year of 2012 * snap-l is way too jaded for my own good <Milyardo> using upstream jars makes all my problems go away \o/ should upload them to my PPA <snap-l> Milyardo: Awesome <tjagoda> brousch's interest clearly signals that he will do the project * tjagoda chains <Milyardo> How does mone package jars? should be easy right? you don't do any compliation <snap-l> Milyardo: Not sure <brousch> tjagoda: my site will be 25% uglier than the existing site <tjagoda> UNPOSSIBLE <brousch> and i will use django so no one will help me * jrwren raises hand for Sunday <tjagoda> I should just use a stock drupal site or something <brousch> yes, then you will get a lot of help <brousch> from exprienced php devs <snap-l> and inexperienced PHP devs <snap-l> and from homeless people <tjagoda> I'll take the homeless, as long as they dont flake or give me lice * jrwren holds up his WILL write <?php for food cardboard sign * snap-l listens to Frank Zappa Absolutely Free <brousch> web2pyramid. ouch. <greg-g> snap-l: dude, is JoDee serious about her cousins getting married at a pizza joint? <binbrain> zing <binbrain> so the joke here, I'm guessing, is the awful design of web2py, again, I'm guessing, but I've heard things <binbrain> brousch, where did you find that? <snap-l> greg-g: Partially.... they're my cousins <snap-l> and I shit thee not <greg-g> hahahaha <greg-g> I loved the "partially...." part <snap-l> Either they're pulling a huge prank on my family, or they're as stupid as they seem <brousch> binbrain: twitter feed <brousch> i think the flask guys were pimping it <binbrain> ahh <snap-l> greg-g: They're getting married at the Shields on Tlegraph <binbrain> its a nice looking site for just apr fools joke, logos and all <snap-l> called my parents to let them know this past weekend because "somebody cancelled" <brousch> binbrain: maybe it's real! <snap-l> We're still trying to figure out what the hell was the rush for them to get married on a Friday <snap-l> greg-g: get me drunk enough, and I'll tell you the whole story at GJ * brousch picks up some dirty bastard <binbrain> brousch: no chance <rick_h_> binbrain: yea, big joke <rick_h_> there was a HUGE thread in convore from pycon with people bashing web2py <binbrain> well, web2py grow into something it wasn't supposed to be <rick_h_> https://convore.com/pycon-2011/a-bias-survey-of-python-frameworks/ <rick_h_> yea, but the main guys are very happy to defend what most consider really bad practices <binbrain> really <jcastro> hey are there after-UGJ activities? <jcastro> like we going for beers after or ... ? <binbrain> I heard one of them explain what went wrong with design aspects of web2py, I think it was at an old pycon <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, plan is to hit some place afterwards <rick_h_> though not sure how long I can stay <jcastro> k <jcastro> man, talk about work from homeish. <jcastro> I drove to lunch <jcastro> and drove past a cop pulling some guy over <jcastro> and realized I totally forgot to renew my registration <binbrain> "Zope Through The Web editing feature is finally back in our stack, we're sorry for taking so long." <jcastro> since I never drive <binbrain> haha <jcastro> oh nice <jcastro> AND my license is expired <jcastro> awesome <snap-l> http://dev.twitter.com/pages/display_guidelines <snap-l> So, should we do a dead-pool on Gwibber? <snap-l> and twit vim? <greg-g> brousch: mmmmm dirty bastard <brousch> greg-g: it's not for you, it's to get snap-l drunk <greg-g> snap-l: that would be a great april fools for the family <greg-g> brousch: bah <greg-g> jcastro: another yes to beers after, for a bit, but not for long given prior commitments <jcastro> indeed <jcastro> I am in for like 2 or 3 <greg-g> :) <jcastro> make fun of jay wren, curse your town, and then move on <jrwren> :( <jrwren> just for that, imma buy smokes and make you smoke with me. <jcastro> heh <greg-g> haha <brousch> ewwwwww <rick_h_> woo! have everything but the mysql trigger moved over to postgres in my little test <snap-l> nice! <brousch> i plan to spend UGJ with a beer in my hand ,sitting behind rick_h_ and watching over his shoulder as he works his flying fingers <rick_h_> I plan on doing a lot of thinking, so I'll be sitting still except for the stroking of my beard <rick_h_> very pensively <greg-g> I love stroking rick_h_'s, I mean, my beard <rick_h_> it's the one true reason to have one :) to pensively stroke while thinking. Best code ideas come from that <snap-l> God, is there anything more miserable than attachments in SOAP? <brousch> i was going to download natty beta to some CDs for sunday and i'm a little confused <brousch> i thought they killed off the netbook version <brousch> bah, nevermind, there's an ARM netbook image and a "netboot" image that i read as "netbook" <snap-l> I'm doing daily nightly downloads via zsyn <snap-l> c <brousch> it's always good to have some physical CDs along with the usb installers <snap-l> I'm going to make some USB keys <brousch> i need to install linux on something before i arrive so rick_h_ and jcastro don't stomp on my macbook <jcastro> it's ok <jcastro> I am used to hanging out with snap-l <jcastro> hey snap-l <jcastro> I tried to make a USB key but I failed <jcastro> snap-l: when you make them <jcastro> snag a daily ISO from tonight or tomorrow <jcastro> there were so many unity fixes that landed this morning that the fresher the better <brousch> so these betas i just downloaded are crap? <brousch> rick_h_: can you add a pycon tag or category to lococast? i'd like to link to just the interviews <brousch> jcastro: are you going to drop a giant wad f fixes again tomorrow? #ubuntu-us-mi 2011-04-02 <rick_h_> brough, there's an interviews tag, and an interview category <rick_h_> brousch: http://lococast.net/tag/pycon2011 <rick_h_> already on there <rick_h_> or just http://lococast.net/category/interview <rick_h_> lots of ways <rick_h_> if I'm missing one let me know, I sometimes miss a tag <brousch> awesome <brousch> pimping you on Mike Driscoll's blog http://www.blog.pythonlibrary.org/2011/04/01/pycon-2011-post-pycon-articles/ <snap-l> jcastro: Yeah, I was going to wait until Saturday <TeamXlink> Is there a good resource on creating what is basically a dial-up "isp" using Linux? <rick_h_> brousch: nice, thanks for the plug <snap-l> Anyone having trouble with gwibber and twitter? <binbrain> twitters been intermittently broke for me the last few weeks, today I got 2 "opps, we're broke" messages then short time later they were resolved <snap-l> Yeah, it was broked for me most of the day <greg-g> snap-l: it's working ok for me <snap-l> Not working over here. <greg-g> weird <snap-l> Wonder if some stupid usage limit is in play * greg-g shrugs <greg-g> snap-l: I don't get it, because I'm using gwibber+twitter+identi.ca just fine right now, and all day <greg-g> weird, Mendeley just crashed my compiz <snap-l> greg-g: I think it was just rate limiting for me <snap-l> Seems to be working now <snap-l> I think the natty stuff is frozen for this weekend <snap-l> haven't received any updates since I downloaded it a few days ago <jrwren> Team-Xlink: most ISP docs are probably long lost from 15 years ago. <jrwren> Team-Xlink: but if you can find PPP howto it probably covers it. <Team-Xlink> lol perfect timing! <Team-Xlink> I just woke up. <Team-Xlink> Alright, sweet thank you@ <Team-Xlink> @ <Team-Xlink> ! <TeamXlink> Thats the best example I could come up with to relate what I'm trying to do too. <snap-l> I'm creating 32bit disk images on USB keys. I'll have three of them <snap-l> one of which will have a persistent filesystem <brousch> i got 24 beers from various west MI breweries <snap-l> brousch: Awesome! <binbrain> brousch: nice, can't be all diff breweries though unless Michigan went brewery crazy <binbrain> arcadia, founders, bells, dark horse <binbrain> thinking <binbrain> oh, Traverse City count? and New Holland <brousch> new holland <brousch> i got founders, arcadia, and new holland <brousch> 2 from founders since its my favorite <binbrain> had a beer from new holland a long time ago, one of my favorites I've had, and I don't like fruit beer, but it was a Blueberry Stout <binbrain> Founders is great <brousch> hah, yeah they have some crazy ones <binbrain> forget, I was just at Founders, I had the backwoods something <brousch> i love oatmeal stout, but can never find it in stores <binbrain> Sam Smith has a good oatmeal stout, they have it everywhere here <brousch> oh, they call it breakfast stout <snap-l> I need to bring some chips and salsa. ;) <brousch> yum <brousch> we won't need an afterparty. it will be all party <snap-l> wfm <brousch> i don't know what that means <snap-l> works for me <brousch> ah <brousch> i scoffed at the book of internet acronyms they were selling to old ramirezanna@example.org. guess i should have bought one <gamerchick02> hey, is anyone around and able to give me a hand? <rick_h_droid> with? <gamerchick02> GLib error of some sort. <gamerchick02> i wanted to see if anyone was up before sending issues to the room. it's saturday, afterall. <gamerchick02> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.4/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL) <gamerchick02> that's the error i get when i run sudo apt-get update <gamerchick02> oh, and i did an upgrade to Natty last night. <rick_h_droid> looking <gamerchick02> danke. <rick_h_droid> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655751 <rick_h_droid> is what i end up with <rick_h_droid> known bug in gnome with su minus the -? <gamerchick02> is there something i can modify to fix it? <rick_h_droid> guess it's hitting the sudo call. try su - and then just apt-gey upgrade <gamerchick02> su - ? <gamerchick02> ok <rick_h_droid> don't see a final solution in that bug :-( <gamerchick02> ugh <gamerchick02> well, the funny thing is... i never set a su password. <gamerchick02> ha ha ha. <rick_h_droid> so maybe a future update will help <gamerchick02> maybe <gamerchick02> blargh. <rick_h_droid> hmm, not sure then. does the upgrade not work? <gamerchick02> correct. <rick_h_droid> or work with that error <rick_h_droid> k <gamerchick02> well, i can work with synaptic <gamerchick02> seems to update in there <rick_h_droid> yea, it's probably hard coded to do something diff <gamerchick02> oi. <gamerchick02> i wonder if it's been reported on launchpad? <gamerchick02> thanks for the help, rick_h_droid <gamerchick02> you're on your phone? <rick_h_droid> yea, have the boy and no computers allowed <rick_h_droid> only phones, no tv and such <gamerchick02> ok... <gamerchick02> thanks for your help. i'll wait it out and see if that's fixed. <rick_h_droid> can you do a sudo su -? <rick_h_droid> probably not, but want to make sure <gamerchick02> nope <snap-l> rick_h_droid: Are you at least reading or something? <rick_h_droid> huh? <snap-l> "only phones, no tv and such" <rick_h_droid> no, sit on the floor and play with the boy <rick_h_droid> Eric's working part of today <rick_h_droid> but he just went down for naptime, so lunch and computer break <snap-l> akh, ok <rick_h_> bah, this isn't good <gamerchick02> what's not good? <rick_h_> has some more sticky key to clean up and now the trackpoint is acting up <rick_h_> keys are great now, but the mouse is bad...might end up back at getting a new keyboard for the laptop after all :/ <gamerchick02> ugh. <gamerchick02> well, least you know what's wrong? heh. <rick_h_> yea, first time I ever spilled anything on a keyboard <rick_h_> guess I was overdue <gamerchick02> i'm lucky I haven't spilled anything either. <gamerchick02> next to, but not on. <snap-l> rick_h_: ugh <rick_h_> yea, this was good for a spill too. I had a cover on the drink and only spilled a little bit <rick_h_> but tea + honey == worse I guess <gamerchick02> eeep. <gamerchick02> it's the honey that did it. <rick_h_> yea, :/ but you can't have earl grey without honey :P <gamerchick02> i drink it plain... *shrug* <gamerchick02> now, my coffee? not plain. <gamerchick02> tea is almost always plain. <snap-l> I drink 'em both plain <gamerchick02> coffee and tea? <gamerchick02> i guess i just prefer my coffee with cream and sugar and my tea plain. *shrug* tea is good with lemon though... <rick_h_> I'm a slightly sweet guy <tjagoda> Now he's not <tjagoda> no* <tjagoda> =P <gamerchick02> heh <rick_h_> little sweet-n-low with blacks like irish breakfast, etc...and honey in earl grey <gamerchick02> :) <gamerchick02> sounds good. <greg-g> mmmm, this is the best mug of coffee I've made <gamerchick02> :) <gamerchick02> stupid question: why wasn't indicator datetime installed when i did the upgrade to Natty? and now when i start it from the menu, why won't it start? *frustrated* <gamerchick02> gawd, i feel like a n00b. <gamerchick02> ok. gonna log out and back in. again. blargh. <gamerchick02> back. now indicator datetime is installed and working. whoo-hoo. <rick_h_> yay <rick_h_> snap-l: you try out the pgsql bookie install? <greg-g> gamerchick02: yeah, sometimes with those indicator things I had bad experiences from upgrades, seems to be a tough upgrade path to always get right, or something <gamerchick02> ah. thanks greg-g. <gamerchick02> i was like "where's my bloody clock?!?!" <greg-g> I haven't done Natty yet, but I had a similar issue with.... uhhh, Maverick maybe? one of the recent ones <gamerchick02> yeah <gamerchick02> I did a clean install of maverick on my laptop and it was good. <gamerchick02> i *should* have done a clean beta install, i think.... <greg-g> gamerchick02: but, testing upgrades is also really important :/ <greg-g> gamerchick02: kind of a catch-22, the bugs won't be found if you don't do it, but you won't run into bugs (and thus will be better off) if you don't do it :) <gamerchick02> yeah, it is important. <gamerchick02> sorry about the signing in and out though, greg-g and everyone. <gamerchick02> i've reported 4 bugs already. <gamerchick02> indicator-weather, empathy, gwibber and compiz. <nixternal> how is your global jam going? <nixternal> chicago one is whack as hell today, and tomorrow i am not even bothering with it <nixternal> fuckin' arch kids everywhere at this open source conference <gamerchick02> oi <rick_h_> heh, you don't like the arch guys nixternal ? :P <greg-g> gamerchick02: awesome! 4 bug reports! mind linking to them so I can watch them/help out if needed? <greg-g> nixternal: ours is tomorrow afternoon <nixternal> rick_h_: no, they are all little twits, they need to be smacked around. they are what the gentoo idiots were 5 or so years ago <jjesse> yay back to normal speed internet <jjesse> no crappy hotel connection for a week :) <brousch> nixternal: i have also noticed a lot of younger users going to arch lately <brousch> makes them feel 1337 * rick_h_ looks at that arch install disk on his desk...ummm <brousch> see <brousch> punk kids <brousch> a lot of interest in those silly non-gnome window managers too. probably the same reason <gamerchick02> no problem, greg-g. lemme find them again... <greg-g> gamerchick02: cool! :) I'll try to see if people can replicate them/comment on them tomorrow during the jam <gamerchick02> the jam is tomorrow? well, i'll try to be in the irc tomorrow. <gamerchick02> :) <brousch> rick_h_ snap-l I see pyohio is july 30, 31 this year. just thought you'd like to know <gamerchick02> greg-g: weather indicator: https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/748504 <gamerchick02> greg-g: empathy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/748437 <snap-l> rick_h_: Not yet <gamerchick02> greg-g: gwibber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/748409 <gamerchick02> sorry, it was three, greg-g, not four, but if i hang around long enough, i'm sure to find another one... <gamerchick02> i don't think the comiz one got through. >_< <greg-g> gamerchick02: :) thanks! <gamerchick02> you're welcome. <greg-g> huh, I can't seem to get to those bugs <gamerchick02> what? they're there in my profile... how strange. <gamerchick02> :( <gamerchick02> is launchpad broken? <gamerchick02> whoa. i logged out and i can't get to them either. <greg-g> could be, I'll take a look later <greg-g> probably private? make them public, perhaps? <gamerchick02> what. what. what. <gamerchick02> there. all are public now. <gamerchick02> i'm not sure why they were marked as private. that's stupid. <gamerchick02> *shakes stick at launchpad* <greg-g> gamerchick02: if they are automatically reported bugs, they might contain personal info, so yeah, better safe than sorry I guess. Though I thought they changed that default, since the actual likelihood that there was personal info (for the majority of packages) was low. <gamerchick02> i'm at the point where i don't much care if there's personal info in there. I mean, how's it going to get fixed if nobody else can see it? <gamerchick02> and i doubt it's really that bad. <greg-g> well, like passwords <gamerchick02> probably the same amount of private stuff google or microsoft get when you use chrome or IE <gamerchick02> that could be a problem. <greg-g> I've seen automatically reported bugs with passwords in them <gamerchick02> eeep. <greg-g> luckily they were private, I reviewed, deleted the passwords, then made public <gamerchick02> i didn't check that... <gamerchick02> whoops <gamerchick02> ok. so i don't understand this error with empathy. it segfaulted. i started ebuddy, it reported that aim was signed on twice, then empathy came back to life? <gamerchick02> it's like a zombie or something. <gamerchick02> lococast time! :) <brousch> i'm hoping to cram in half a dozen podcasts while driving tomorrow <gamerchick02> oooh. fun stuff. i'm catching up. again. >_< <brousch> where rick_h_ is involved, i always feel like i'm catching up, again. i can't imagine working for/with him <gamerchick02> hehe. i'm *always* catching up on podcasts. <brousch> poor tjagoda http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/04/02/2159217/Android-Passes-BlackBerry-In-US-Market-Share <tjagoda> Meh <tjagoda> I am not worried #ubuntu-us-mi 2011-04-03 <snap-l> http://i.imgur.com/pAKhI.png <_stink_> haha <jcastro> snap-l: so good news <jcastro> I got mail from the software center guys <jcastro> they need help picking the "featured applications" in natty <jcastro> so guess what we're going to do. :) <snap-l> Hey, I'm all for helping with that. :) <brousch> greg-g: you awake? I've got 2 passengers with me today <brousch> bah, what ascrub, i just signed up on the event page <snap-l> I love it... AT&T has be down as blocked for sending spam messages. <snap-l> when DNSBL has no such record of me being blocked <snap-l> (dnsbl.info) <snap-l> and the person that I'm responding to is my aunt, who sends out a bunch of shit forwards. <snap-l> gah, thy updated the natty image last night <greg-g> snap-l: really? <greg-g> ugh <greg-g> don't have time to redownload, really <snap-l> I have it <snap-l> I'm making three usb keys <snap-l> and I'll burn a DVD of the ISO images. <greg-g> awesome, my 2 (x86 and amd64) are from the previous day iso, oh well <snap-l> Yeah, no biggie <snap-l> I set up a cron job that would update them overnight. :) <greg-g> nice <snap-l> I knew this would happen. ;) <snap-l> Somehow my DVD drive is going slower than a turtle <snap-l> 2.7GiB, and it's taking a good 10+ minutes to burn <jrwren> nixternal: why so negative? <jrwren> 1k <jrwren> oops, that was the kiddo <jrwren> damn, I need to get in the shower if i'm gonna leave in 20min <greg-g> :) I'm heading out now to go get snacks (any last requests?) and drop off a movie at the library <greg-g> ohai <rick_h_> wheee <greg-g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/749557 <gamerchick02> how's the jam going? <rick_h_> party <greg-g> gamerchick02: good good! <greg-g> 16 of us here * greg-g just counted <gamerchick02> sweet <gamerchick02> i'm a supporter in the IRC room. <gamerchick02> :) <greg-g> yay! :0 <greg-g> :) <jrwren> :p <jjesse> love the snow, rain and thunder yay for spring <gamerchick02> ugh. Yeah, looked out the window and saw snow. it's like "what?" <snap-l> Howdy from Natty <snap-l> or at least ssh fron natty <jjesse> in vm or actual install? <jjesse> wow lots of thunder <gamerchick02> hope the power doesn't go out. that'd really put a damper on the jam, eh? <gamerchick02> how are you liking it, snap-l? <snap-l> It's pretty nice <snap-l> This is an actual machine <gamerchick02> how do you like Unity? ;) <snap-l> It's growing on me <gamerchick02> it's growing on me too. i wasn't impressed in Maverick, but i'm much more impressed in Natty. <gamerchick02> i like the auto-hiding launcher <greg-g> yeah <jjesse> wow radar looks a bit crazy <jjesse> snow in lansing area and east <jjesse> thunderstorms in grand rapids and west <gamerchick02> thundersnow! <jjesse> that was earlier for us do you have it <gamerchick02> it stopped snowing, but it looks gloomy out. <greg-g> that radar is crazy! <jjesse> yeah looks like most of the storm has gone east <jjesse> anyone running natty in vbox? <jjesse> everytime i try and install the additions and restart it just boots to the console <greg-g> jjesse: it wasn't working too well for me last night, Unity wouldn't run <jrwren> my server upgrade is very smooth so far. <snap-l> Some nice things with the interfeace <jcastro> krondor: I crashed weird and am stuck rotating in one direction <jcastro> any ideas? <jrwren> jcastro: I've got a sweet bug, I need you to point me in a direction. <jcastro> ok <jrwren> jcastro: i built monodevelop from master(trunk) and I get no menu <jrwren> now it uses gtk-sharp which is built againt 2.12 I think. <jcastro> oh I know about MD <jrwren> I'm wondering if that is it. <jcastro> yeah it does dynamic menus <jrwren> oh yeah? about missing menu for MD? <jcastro> which is why it doesn't work <jcastro> yeah <jcastro> it's an older bug <jrwren> duh - i should have searched LP first :) <jcastro> I need to ask someone about it, there was someone (who I can't remember) who was looking at it <jrwren> I'm so nub sometimes. <jcastro> it's ok <jrwren> found this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html which is totally sweet. <jcastro> no one can find anything in lp, that's not your fault <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts <jcastro> this is the canonical article, they just copied mine <jcastro> and didn't bother updating it #ubuntu-us-mi 2011-04-04 <jrwren> omg, the window management is just excellent. the ctrl-alt numpad and ctrl-alt-(shift)left/right <jcastro> yeah <jcastro> I keep telling people it has advanced stuff <jcastro> they just don't like that it's missing what they consider advanced <jrwren> i know rick_h_ thinks it blase, but IMO it is great. <jcastro> heh <jcastro> rick is content in tiling land <jcastro> which is totally fine <jcastro> just not for me <jrwren> the ctrl-alt numpad stuff just feels perfect to me. <jcastro> http://i.imgur.com/zw1kh.jpg <jcastro> we've actually had that feature for like 3 years <jcastro> just never turned it on! <jrwren> lolz <jrwren> lolz to the image too <jrwren> ok, so i can configure "broadcast accounts" but what do I use to read and post to them? (twitter) <jcastro> gwibber <jcastro> or "social network" or something like that <jcastro> dunno, I use seesmic <jcastro> seesmic web ftw <jrwren> that works great. ty. <jrwren> impressive, you triaged it last july. good memory! <jcastro> ah! <jcastro> you can shut off the global menu for certain apps <jcastro> as a workaround <jcastro> actually, we do that for the one in the archive iirc <jrwren> is there a way I can view the source of this patch on the web? https://bugs.launchpad.net/dbusmenu/+bug/606470/comments/3 <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6784/is-it-possible-to-make-indicator-appmenu-ignore-a-specific-application <jcastro> yeah, one sec <jrwren> who can I tell that the svn url here https://code.launchpad.net/monodevelop is wrong... its actually http://github.com/mono/monodevelop now instead of that svn url <jcastro> oh, I can change that actually <jcastro> jrwren: can you ask about the monodevelop patch on askubuntu? <jcastro> I'd like to just start building up the info there <jcastro> whilst I fix this URL <jrwren> sounds good <jrwren> i'll bet teh workaround works. <jcastro> it does <jcastro> we have the same issue with like eclipse <jcastro> programs that generate dynamic menus (like IDEs) are problematic unfortunately <jrwren> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33384/how-can-i-see-the-monodevelop-patch-in-bug606470 <jrwren> i tried to tag with monodevelop and UBUNTU_MENUPROXY but I dont' have the rep for new tags <jcastro> I'll tag it right <jrwren> so the monodevelop.in file just generates the menushortcut eh? hrm... i sure would like a more general fix. <jrwren> What is the recommendation? will the menu proxy support dynamic menus eventually? <jrwren> libappmenu... i'll check out their bugs and discussions on dynamic menus <jrwren> thanks for the help jcastro <jcastro> I am not sure <jcastro> outside of the patch and bug workflow we're in your neck of the woods. <jcastro> jrwren: found it <jcastro> and answered <jjesse> anchorman is perhaps the greatest movie ever, nuff said <snap-l> jjesse: I completely disagree with the Anchorman assessment. :) <jjesse> really? <jjesse> love that movie <jjesse> talledega nights is a close 2nd <snap-l> Gooooood eeeevening <greg-g> holy crap: https://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/disapointment-in-rochester/ <greg-g> that sucks <greg-g> he put a lot of effort into that, it looks like <snap-l> Oh man, that sucks. <rick_h_> yea, ouch <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/58/detail/ <greg-g> why hello there! <greg-g> meeting time! <snap-l> Long time no see. :) <snap-l> I think the West MI folks might not be as well represented. * greg-g changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-mi to: Michigan LoCo | Wiki: http://ur1.ca/33fhq | LP: http://ur1.ca/33fhw | MailingList: http://ur1.ca/33fhy | Check out MUG: http://www.mug.org and CHC: http://ur1.ca/33fin | Michigan Repository Mirror at OU: http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/ | This channel is now logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ <greg-g> yeah, :/ <snap-l> I'm kinda upset at the host at ABC <greg-g> yeah, me too, not the best way to deal with that situation <greg-g> he was one of those "but I must follow every rule blindly" <greg-g> oh well <snap-l> And the Blue Tractor was packed as well with an hour wait <greg-g> geez <snap-l> Apparently AA was bumpin' <greg-g> sorry about that guys <snap-l> np <snap-l> not your fault <snap-l> I blame the rest of AA. :) <greg-g> haha <greg-g> so, yeah, meeting.... <snap-l> So, first up: Natty Release Party is on <snap-l> Penguicon, Friday, 7pm <greg-g> rock <snap-l> Be there, or don't. <rick_h_> woot <greg-g> awesome. Thanks for taking the lead on that one <snap-l> I think next year we might want to look into a room party <greg-g> that's always fun <snap-l> there's nothing official about the release party, so if the bar is full, we're SOL <greg-g> right right :/ <snap-l> I asked about putting it in the program, but since it's not in an official space, no program mention <greg-g> gotcha <snap-l> The bar is rennovated, so it may be a little more spacious <greg-g> oh, cool, good to know <snap-l> I know last year it was a tad crowded <snap-l> Also, there's a Natty release panel scheduled for Penguicon <snap-l> so if you want to talk Natty, please come to the panel <snap-l> even if you don't, you can act as bouncers. ;) <snap-l> bring your own sunglasses and wife-beater T-shirts. <greg-g> I have some extras <snap-l> Seriously, though, should be good, and from what I've seen of this release tonight, it should be a pretty congenial panel <greg-g> cool, so, other than blogging/mailing list/twitter announcements, anything we need to do between now and then? <snap-l> Not to my knowledge <greg-g> cool <snap-l> Just let folks know that they need to register for P-con <snap-l> And register soon if they want to participate and haven't registered yet. * greg-g nods * rick_h_ whistles <snap-l> and tell Rick that he'll be leading the panel <snap-l> rick_h_: see above. ;) <rick_h_> panel? missed that <rick_h_> hah! <greg-g> :) <greg-g> "Unity from the outsider's perspective" <snap-l> Nah, I think he'll need to go deep to be able to lead it <snap-l> We'll install Natty on his laptop from scratch <jrwren> was that Rochester, MI or MN or NY? <rick_h_> NY <snap-l> jrwren: ny, I believe <rick_h_> yea, they've had some good loco stuff up there, suprised at that <snap-l> anything else on release stuff / Penguicon? <greg-g> don't think so <snap-l> MUG Meeting: As far as I can tell, we're OK to sponsor either June or July <snap-l> I think we need to firm up our plans on what to present and just let MUG know <rick_h_> did we raise the $$ greg-g ? <greg-g> so... I need to do another press for donations/memberships, I only have us three :/ <rick_h_> actually, did I donate to that? <jrwren> should have pressed today. <greg-g> rick_h_: yeah, you did, and snap-l <rick_h_> I think I did, but don't recall <rick_h_> k <rick_h_> heh, sucky <greg-g> yeah, I totally forgot, I thought about it last night in bed :( <snap-l> Yeah, I forgot to mention it as well <rick_h_> well yea, maybe do a "we only need XX more" call <snap-l> I'll mention it at the MUG meeting as well <greg-g> cool, I want to blog about it, I think <snap-l> Then we can post it on reddit... <greg-g> (I added tasks for release party to the agenda) <greg-g> heh <snap-l> I added the Natty release party to th events schedule <greg-g> awesome <snap-l> Next thing that I had was using the events calendar over the Google calendar <greg-g> yeah, so, have you used it in evolution yet? how does it do? <snap-l> but I don't think it's there yet <snap-l> It doesn't do the time zones properly <snap-l> and meetings aren't showing up <snap-l> so we'll need to update both until it gets fixed up better. <greg-g> hmmm, ok... so, we'll just keep an eye on that one <snap-l> (which is a bummer) <greg-g> yeah <snap-l> That's all that I had on the agenda <greg-g> cool <greg-g> yeah, so, I think that's good <greg-g> btw, does anyone know if I add an ical URL in gcal, if it periodically updates/pulls from that ical url? <snap-l> Yeah, it should <greg-g> cool, never used it like that before <snap-l> not sure what the polling rate is <greg-g> just added it to test <snap-l> Under evo you can set the polling timeframe * greg-g nods <snap-l> Google Calendar gets the tz right <greg-g> yeah <greg-g> our events line up with what was in the original gcal we have <snap-l> well hell, the meeting is showing up now <snap-l> when I checked earlier, it wasn't. <snap-l> Doing a quick check w/ google -> evo * greg-g nods <snap-l> Evolution doesn't like it <greg-g> lame <snap-l> Well, it doesn't allow me to set the timezone for it <snap-l> otherwise, it would work perfectly. <snap-l> Google manages to get it right <jrwren> my bar just crashed... wtf is the bar called? I didn't get an appport for it either :( <greg-g> weird <greg-g> that's the hardest part for me, relearning what things are call in this new paradigm :) <snap-l> just call it the mark bar <greg-g> so, release party announcement stuff, and MUG sponsorship pressing, I think thats all we got <greg-g> any good ideas for the MUG thing? <snap-l> Q&A on broadcom cards. ;) <greg-g> I mean, how to get money :) <rick_h_> I was going to talk about PPA stuff <snap-l> Bake sale <greg-g> heh <rick_h_> good uses, examples, how to get stuff from there <snap-l> rick_h_: that's awesome <greg-g> cool, I like <rick_h_> not sure I'll get all into building your own <rick_h_> but more as an undisovered resource <greg-g> yeah <greg-g> still good <snap-l> greg-g: I think posting to the list as a reminder <snap-l> and mentioning it at the release party <snap-l> and broadcasting at MUG <snap-l> Also, garnisheeing paychecks <snap-l> that should do it <rick_h_> yea, will try to recall to bring up at CCHC <snap-l> and CHC <rick_h_> and bring my enforcement bat <greg-g> rock <rick_h_> gah, typing lag sucks <greg-g> I'll send a reminder to the list <snap-l> Also, huge thanks to SRT for the space, and thanks to everyone that came on out <snap-l> it was amazing and awesome! <rick_h_> yay <greg-g> word! <greg-g> thanks again, jrwren <greg-g> always love going there <snap-l> Yes, thank you do much jsjgruber_ <snap-l> er, jrwren <greg-g> heh <snap-l> (blasted tab complete) <greg-g> (I don't know why IRC tab complete is always implemented badly, instead of how it is done on BASH, where if there are more than one possible completion, it just makes you type more) <snap-l> a-yep <jsjgruber_> That was a nice ramirezanna@example.org. <greg-g> :) <snap-l> Anything else anyone would like to add? * greg-g shakes his head <greg-g> I'm writing up the MUG sponsorship reminder now <snap-l> heh <greg-g> and will do a thanks for coming to the jam post soon <snap-l> OK, so with that, I think we'll call this meeting closed for now <snap-l> brousch: You made it home OK? <greg-g> snap-l: thanks for creating that agenda/meeting page <snap-l> Hey, NP <snap-l> I'll copy that over for the next meeting <greg-g> rock <snap-l> though I think we'll want to reschedule the meeting to perhaps Monday <snap-l> or the next Sunday, since it'll be after P-con weekend <snap-l> Anyone opposed to making it the 7th? <snap-l> er, 8th? <brousch> we just got back. ended up eating at the indian place <snap-l> brousch: Ah, very cool <greg-g> brousch: I've only been there once, during "Restuarant Week" (which means, it was busy), how was it? <snap-l> brousch: Thank you for bringing the beer <snap-l> The Scotch Ale was awesome. <greg-g> snap-l: the 8th sounds good to me <greg-g> snap-l: yes, thank you so much for the beer <greg-g> brousch: yes, thank you so much for the beer <greg-g> :) <snap-l> brousch: Next time I see you, beer is on me. :) <brousch> it was awesome food <brousch> and it was empty <brousch> blue nile was empty too <snap-l> Bah, maybe next time, then <greg-g> snap-l: MUG indivindual membership is $35? <snap-l> Yessir <greg-g> thankya sir <snap-l> y'know, the site doesn't have that info on it <greg-g> nope <greg-g> Figured there'd be a "Membership" page or similar <snap-l> You would think <brousch> ok, bedtime <brousch> seeyou tomorrow <greg-g> brousch: g'night, great seeing.... <snap-l> you... <greg-g> snap-l: I'm thinking a deadline for the sponsorship might be a good idea, what should it be to be convenient for MUG? <greg-g> end of April? May? <snap-l> hurm... I think May should work <snap-l> but have NFC otherwise. <snap-l> I'll ask <greg-g> k <greg-g> I'll wait on the reminder then <snap-l> Go ahead and send it out <snap-l> I'd rather not have you wait on us <greg-g> ok <rick_h_> Yea, shoot for may 1 * greg-g nods <rick_h_> I don't kinow why we can't get it settled in 30 days <snap-l> Yeah, it should be oK <rick_h_> and gives up last minute time to collect $$ at PC * greg-g nods <snap-l> http://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/GlobalJam20110403 <greg-g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/749885 my bug about the LD and flickr photos :) <snap-l> Hey jcastro <greg-g> snap-l: nice photos <jcastro> yo <snap-l> greg-g: Thanks! <snap-l> btw: got a response back from Cloudkicker, so hoping to have a show with them <rick_h_> http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/04/03/introducing-booki-only-for-developers/ <snap-l> They're one of my favorite new CC discoveries. :) <rick_h_> 0.1 is there, yay <snap-l> bookie <snap-l> I think you made a typo <rick_h_> crap, url didn't change <rick_h_> dammit, just put on twitter, <rick_h_> gah! <snap-l> never fails. ;) <rick_h_> ok, updated <rick_h_> and wordpress seems smart to redirect the bad url to the good one <snap-l> sweetness. <rick_h_> ok, time to rest, 0.2 starts tomorrow <greg-g> :) g'night rick_h_ <greg-g> I'm on a roll: http://blog.grossmeier.net/2011/04/03/mug-sponsorship/ <brousch> snap-l: awesome https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/GlobalJam20110403#5591551836014050377 <rick_h__> woot! first python based trigger for postgresql working <brousch> rick_h__: do i know will fuqua? <rick_h__> brousch: yea, Blazeix_ <brousch> ah, ok <brousch> darn non-real-name-like irc handles <snap-l> brousch: Heh. :) <snap-l> Meetings Meetings, causing a commotion; giving me the notion that I won't get shit done today. <rick_h__> hah, didn't think you had them on monday <snap-l> Normally have two <snap-l> but today I have three, because I wanted to do the weekly review that I couldn't do on Friday <snap-l> So we can talk about the next iteration of the thing that we haven't completely released the latest iteration of. ;) <snap-l> Considering it's 6:30am for anyone on west-coast time, this should be fun <rick_h__> hah <snap-l> And I'm still listening to conference call music <snap-l> I feel a reschedule in my future <snap-l> Well well well, we're on <greg-g> fancy that <rick_h__> anyone need a coffee table? glass top with metal base <snap-l> I'm set for coffeetables at the moment, thanks <brousch> rick_h__: sounds hazardous <rick_h__> got the giant ottoman so no need for it now <rick_h__> brousch: survived a long time without injury <brousch> does your boy climb? <rick_h__> yea, but he's not allowed downstairs so it's not been an issue <brousch> hehe <snap-l> ...yet... <brousch> time to write up my unity love post <wolfger> snap-l: +1 for filking the Narwhals tune <greg-g> filk? film? <wolfger> filk <wolfger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filk <wolfger> see "used as a verb" definition #2 <wolfger> and for goodness sake, attend a Tom Smith concert at Penguicon!!! <jrwren> wow, apparently a couple of my coworkers were interested in the jam yesterday. I guess I need to publisize more. <jrwren> mabye they are just saying that though. <rick_h__> it was the beer :P <snap-l> Beer and people <wolfger> there was beer? Damn. ;-) <wolfger> Sadly, it was in AA on a weekend. I'm near AA all week long. Decided I really ought to spend the weekend at home with family. <snap-l> bah, family <wolfger> If I'd gone, I may as well have stayed in Dundee for the night :-p <snap-l> It's not
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