#ubuntu-ke 2011-03-03
<greyheart> any one here?
#ubuntu-ke 2011-03-07
<simiyu> hi
#ubuntu-ke 2011-03-21
<cong06> hey!
<cong06> no one ever comes here do they
<ebel> hello
<cong06> oh hey!
<ebel> it is a sorta quiet channel. :)
<cong06> I guess I should have noticed that you left and entered
 * ebel automatically joins this channel
<cong06> so you weren't a bot.
<cong06> it is pretty quiet
<ebel> Not a bot :)
<cong06> it seems weird to me that such a quiet channel has 3 bots.
<cong06> chanserv, locobot_3, and ubuntuloc...
<ebel> #ubuntu-XX is registered by canonical/ubuntu commity, so they add their logging bots to all the channels.
<ebel> it's all automatic
<ebel> ChanServ is from the IRC network operators and allows one to op/ban users etc
<cong06> yeah. I guess it makes sense.
<ebel> You can see the IRC logs here http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/17/%23ubuntu-ke.html
<cong06> that's pretty cool. I guess it's empty though since there wasn't any activity on that day...
<ebel> yeah
<ebel> i dunno when it's updated
<cong06> I guess they ignore join and part messages
<ebel> well the only way to change that is to start talking. :)
<ebel> New ubuntu release soon
<ebel> :)
<cong06> \o/
<cong06> yeah, I'm pretty excited.
<cong06> I found this: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ but they're not nearly as small as the ubuntu ones...
<cong06> hm.
<cong06> I found a script I want to test, but I don't want to run on my local machine
<cong06> do you know what kind of changes they're makign for 11.04?
<ebel> biggest change is the 'unity' graphical interface thingie
<ebel> http://unity.ubuntu.com/
<ebel> you could create a virtual machine and test your script in that? :)
<cong06> ;)
<cong06> that's what I'm doing. but I don't want to install a full blown desktop interface
<ebel> hehehe
<cong06> so they didn't do unity in 10.10?
#ubuntu-ke 2011-03-23
<cong06> hey ebel!
<ebel> hello!
<ebel> How are you?
<cong06> I'm good!
<cong06> you?
<ebel> good good
<ebel> playing with open source machine translation, apertium
<ebel> http://www.apertium.org/
<ebel> You can translate things offline on the command line http://www.technomancy.org/language/apertium-command-line/
<cong06> I'm not sure how I feel about the online interface...
<cong06> oh, I guess the commandline interface is quite a bit better though
<cong06> they don't have swahili...
<ebel> yeah.
<ebel> it's open source, so you have to make your own
<ebel> it's from a spanish university, so it has loads of spanish languages
<ebel> It doesn't have irish, our native language either.
<cong06> well, I'm tempted to start one for swahili, but I'm not sure I trust my swahili...
<ebel> :D
<ebel> hehehe
<ebel> you're swahili not so good?
<cong06> not really :/
<ebel> well, better than nothing...
<cong06> yeah
<ebel> My irish is also terrible. I'm going to try to work on the irish one
<ebel> I'm a big believer in 'worse is better'
<cong06> than nothing?
<ebel> http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html
<ebel> cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better
<ebel> most 'it must be perfect' systems never deliver and are always under development
<ebel> even linux was like that
<ebel> it was initially "just for fun" and "nothing big and professional"
<cong06> I'm still reading the article (super slowly)
<cong06> but are you talking about this?: http://xkcd.com/844/
<ebel> hehehe
<cong06> ok. that makes sense.
<cong06> this would be a more "open source" alternative
<cong06> where the code needs to be readable so others can more easily edit it
<ebel> well not really.
<ebel> In closed source software, they still need to have readable code.
<ebel> Since they have to maintain it.
<cong06> yeah. true.
<ebel> However I believe that if you have something that's half working, there will be more volunteers,
<cong06> oooh, than if you have something that doesn't work at all
<ebel> if you're paying people, you can tell them to work on the code/translation, so it doesn't matter if they aren't enthusiastic
<cong06> because some user wants to make it perfect
<ebel> e.g., if there was a half done swahili translation, but there was a few mistakes, you'd probably be much more likely to submit a few patches to make it work.
<cong06> that's true. half the reason is I'm too lazy to figure out how to start the project >.<
<ebel> hehehe
<ebel> yeah apertium has some bad documentation. Lots of hunting around :)
<cong06> I'm rather confused by his discussion at the end (http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html) about C++...
<cong06> on one hand he's arguing for worse-is-better using C++ as an example
<cong06> on the other he's saying that C++ sucks.
#ubuntu-ke 2013-03-14
<ajczapiewski> hey
<ajczapiewski> hellooooo
<grantbow> hello
<grantbow> it's pretty quiet in here most days right now.
<ajczapiewski> hey
<ajczapiewski> is it usually busier?
#ubuntu-ke 2013-03-15
<grantbow> I hope it will get busier but quiet is usual
<ajczapiewski> hey man so do you help with ubuntu?
<ajczapiewski> hello peeps
#ubuntu-ke 2013-03-16
<grantbow> ajczapiewski: yes, I kicked off some Ubuntu Hours at iHub when I visited Nairobi in 2011. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grantbow
<ajczapiewski> huh
<ajczapiewski> oh thats cool
<ajczapiewski> well im trying to get in contact with some tech people in kenya and find out about the scene there. i've joined skunkworks but would be good to chat to someone who could explain the scene a bit
#ubuntu-ke 2013-03-22
<miano> Hi grantbow.
<miano> I keep missing your messages...
<miano> Hello ubuntulo12
<grantbow> hi miano: ditto :-)
<grantbow> I have found the time difference makes collaboration a challenge
#ubuntu-ke 2014-03-28
<kagz> hey..

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