#ubuntu-news 2009-08-01 <tyche> popey: ping <popey> tyche: hi <tyche> I just got a seriously confused post to the mailing list, but I think I've figured out what the problem is. The location for events has changed, in the Fridge. The new location (well, as of about 6 months ago or so) is: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar <tyche> HOWEVER: I see a major discrepancy and I don't know how to cure it. When I go into the events calendar to pull information for the Upcoming Meetings in the UWN, I actually use the Google calendar that the Fridge Events calendar copies. (it's a two way street, supposedly) <tyche> Doc team meeting shows up on the google calendar, but NOT on the Fridge calendar. <tyche> Secondly, someone set up the "Guest" block, but didn't set "Guest can edit", so I can't make changes to the entry. It lacks location and time (in UTC) <tyche> Also, the page that references the Fridge calendar is on wikis. I can change it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/BookingUbuntuMeetingChannel, but not on the other two. <tyche> Confused yet? LOL <popey> :) <popey> i thought those were all one wiki <popey> just different css <tyche> That may be. I don't know. I know I've had occasion to think so. <tyche> If that's the case, then editing the Ubuntu page should change the other two <tyche> That still doesn't solve my problem of changing the location and time, or of the fact that it doesn't show up in the Fridge calendar, but IS in the Google calendar <tyche> I know I blogged about the change on January 17 (I know, a long time ago) and that it was picked up on the Planet (see http://tycheent.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/upcoming-events-calendar-has-moved/ ) <tyche> But people still don't put all the information in, nor do they put it in early enough to be caught up in the UWN, when it comes to a Sunday. <tyche> Link to the Fridge calendar has now replaced the old location in all three, so you were right about that. <popey> thanks tyche ! <tyche> Would I be out of line to post to the Fridge the directions for filling out an event, and stress that information not listed (such as location and time) would be referenced in the UWN as: "Not listed as of publication" <tyche> ?? <popey> not really <tyche> Then I'll see what I can work up, today. <tyche> popey: Posted. See http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1888 or http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ <nhandler> tyche: The Google Calendar takes care of time zone conversions. For instance, when I add an event, I have to use my local time. It then gets converted to UTC automatically for the Fridge calendar. <tyche> Well, I would hope that. All I know is that my connection to it is set up for UTC (No Daylight Savings) <tyche> Also, the link listed on the Fridge post (and at the top of the Fridge Calender page) specifies that the Google calendar accepts local and converts it. The thing that disturbs me is that it specifies that it converts to GMT, and GMT DOES have Daylight Savings time <nhandler> tyche: Isn't there an option to not have it adjust for DST automatically? <tyche> Yes, but you have to CHOOSE it. <tyche> That's why my version of the calendar is set up for GMT (No Daylight) <nhandler> Your local calendar shouldn't matter. When you add a meeting, just add it for whatever time the meeting will take place in your time zone. If the FRIDGE calendar is setup for GMT without automatic DST, it should get the correct time <tyche> Except I set up for several time zones, therefore it is important that I have it set for UTC rather than local <tyche> It saves having to double convert. #ubuntu-news 2009-08-02 <johnc4510> nhandler: hey bud :) <nhandler> Hey johnc4510 <johnc4510> i see you are adding the meeting summaries <johnc4510> :) <nhandler> Yep. I just finished fixing up the links so that they will be fine in the email version <johnc4510> hey great thx <johnc4510> much appreciated <johnc4510> there are always a bunch of fixes for that report hee hee <nhandler> I'm still working on a script to automate the process. Right now, I mainly use the script to combine all of the reports into one document (since the actual report just has a bunch of Include tags which would probably mess up the UWN) <johnc4510> nods <tyche> ITB is in. Where to next? <johnc4510> hold on <johnc4510> sorry had a phone call <tyche> (Oh, oh. He's looking to find more work for me.) Hee hee <johnc4510> i'm not finding a lot of GCN items right now....you can work on your glossary for now a hit me up again in a few <tyche> OK <tyche> Glossary and proofing in progress. <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> nhandler: btw, nice job on the free ubuntu books for loco's :) <nhandler> johnc4510: Thanks. I had some help with boredandblogging on that post since for some reason, I am not able to add images <johnc4510> ah, i've always had trouble adding images to the fridge for some reason <johnc4510> shrug <tyche> Maybe all three of us should take a course from Nick. <johnc4510> lol <nhandler> johnc4510: Riddel also had an issue doing it before. Nick was describing some option/button that he has which allows full html, but I was unable to see it <tyche> Ah! That's further down, under the text editing box <nhandler> tyche: Where? I still don't see it <tyche> Hold on <johnc4510> i think i might have seen that...it's not a button, but a check box/circle to choose <tyche> Starting from the menu on the left, Contribute -> Page, then under the text box are three lines. The first is "Allow HTML tags . . ." with a button box in front of it. <tyche> Click the button and it allow full HTML <tyche> I've never tried it, so I don't know how it works. <johnc4510> k <nhandler> Under my text box, the first thing I have is: "Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <blockquote>" <tyche> Yep. That's the one <tyche> If there's something more, then we need to brow-beat Nick to find out where. <nhandler> But I don't have any check box/button next to it <tyche> It's a circle. Click on that. <nhandler> I have a circle bullet, but I can't click it <johnc4510> hmm <nhandler> Are there different levels of editors? <johnc4510> not sure about that <johnc4510> the first thing under the text box for me is "imput format" <tyche> I just checked on mine, Same thing as Nathan <johnc4510> i can choose filter, php or full html <johnc4510> we need to ask nick about editor levels <tyche> Yea, we do. <johnc4510> The newest issue of the UWN #153 is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue153 #ubuntu-news 2009-08-06 <nhandler> Is anyone around who can review a small fridge post? <cody-somerville> I can <cody-somerville> nhandler, "How to upgrade a package properly"? <nhandler> cody-somerville: Yeah <cody-somerville> I'd add a second paragraph that just gives a brief summary of the Packaging Training sessions <cody-somerville> ie. "For those not familiar, ..." <nhandler> cody-somerville: I guess we could add it in. I was mainly trying to just get something up before the session, so I "borrowed" the basic template that James has been using for the past few sessions <cody-somerville> nhandler, I give you my plus +1 to publish it <nhandler> Thanks cody-somerville. Just out of curiosity (tyche wasn't sure), how long does this "mentoring" phase last? <cody-somerville> I think we're always suppose to try and seek peer review before publishing <cody-somerville> but it seems to be more of a desired practise then an actual practise <nhandler> cody-somerville: Could you also see if under the big text bog for a new Fridge post you have an option to enable full html ? <cody-somerville> No, I don't have that option. <cody-somerville> It seems that permissions have been scaled back since I last logged in <nhandler> We were investigating this a few days ago. It looks like some people have access to additional options than other people. <cody-somerville> I think I lost my original account when we moved to OpenID or something #ubuntu-news 2009-08-09 <johnc4510> The newest issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #154 is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue154 #ubuntu-news 2009-08-11 <highvoltage> not sure if this is the best place to point it out, but the date on http://www.ubuntu.com/news/landscape-dedicated-server says 2008 where I think it should be 2009 #ubuntu-news 2009-08-13 <johnc4510> . <NCommander> afternoon all, I'm trying to update the Ubuntu Mobile fridge calendar item, but I can't seem to find where it was published from, can someone assist me? <tyche> I'm not sure I understand the question. The only calendar I know about is the Google calendar that's attached to the Fridge for upcoming events. <tyche> The one at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar <nhandler> NCommander: It says it was created by John Crawfod <tyche> If you mean update the event for Mobile Team Meeting for Thursday, August 20, then I can help you. <nhandler> *Crawford <NCommander> tyche, right, that's the one. We had an entry for it being on Tuesday <NCommander> It moved back to Thursday and the Tuesday entry was deleted <NCommander> I'm not sure what happened <tyche> All right. Let's start at the top, then. You want it for Tuesday. What time on Tuesday? <tyche> NCommander: You want it for Tuesday. What time on Tuesday? <NCommander> tyche, 13:00 UTC <tyche> OK, it's switched. Now, do you happen to post an agenda to a wiki page? <tyche> NCommander: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <NCommander> tyche, yes I do <tyche> If you give me the link, I can add the information to the calendar. That way it will get posted in the UWN when I extract the information on Sunday morning. <tyche> Otherwise, I have to put in "None listed as of publication". <NCommander> tyche, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting <tyche> Got it. Now ALL instances of the entry are changed in the Google calendar, and the information will appear in the UWN. Thanks <tyche> (And I know, because I'm the one that types them up) <tyche> "And thank you for flying with the Ubuntu Weekly News editors and the Fridge editors." Hee hee #ubuntu-news 2009-08-16 <mdke> damn, how did this happen? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2009-August/000220.html <wildnfree> Hello all! Is there ever any news on this channel? <tyche> Yea, about once a week the UWN comes out. <wildnfree> I noticed this Guardian story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/real-realdvd <wildnfree> This story is how RealNetworks has been banned from selling RealDVD because it allows people to copy DVDs. Interestingly the courts decision was because they violated the licence for CSS, but mentions the fact that DeCSS has been found not illegal in court before and so they would have been alright if they had produced the software on Linux using DeCSS ;-) <wildnfree> Apparently the Judge said it wasn't illegal for a user to copy their DVDs, it was just that it was illegal to produce software to do it which used CSS code in violation of the CSS licence. <tyche> It's interesting, but not directly Ubuntu related. Particularly since it's RealNewtorks. <wildnfree> But at least I'm trying ;-) <tyche> Oh, yea. No problem with that. It's just that the way the Ubuntu Weekly News is set up, we try to keep to things that are directly Ubuntu related and community oriented. I appreciate the attempt, though. <wildnfree> Hard to know what the guidelines are when no-one appears to contribute on this channel! <tyche> You can always ask me. I'm happy to help <tyche> And right now, I've got to fix a bunch of camelcases that the Chief Editor left in an article he wrote up. LOL <wildnfree> What are camelcases? <tyche> wiki links, where there's a capital letter in the middle, like CamelBack. <wildnfree> The only bit of directly Ubuntu related news I could give you actually dates from last year. It is that the aerial circus troupe I am a member of (Mists of Time) became 100% Ubuntu on its computers last year. Probably not a lot if interest in that though. :-( <tyche> Actually, if we'd seen that last year we would have put it in. Something like that is a great human interest link to Ubuntu. <wildnfree> How about this then: <wildnfree> This year marks the first anniversary of the British aerial circus troupe Mists of Time converting all its computers to Ubuntu. For a whole year now, all activities such as lesson plans for teaching, all administration and fund raising activities, all artistic production work, and all video production work has been achieved on Ubuntu workstations. <tyche> Sounds good. Is there a link I can reference? (News article, blog site, something like that? Or even a notation on the Mists of Time page.) <tyche> Plus any other information you can put in there. <wildnfree> We haven't got a web site at present but will again soon. <tyche> Like I said, even a blog would be good. <johnc4510> hello <johnc4510> catching up <wildnfree> I've got my google profile http://www.google.com/profiles/helen.wildnfree <tyche> Is the blog at http://geekfeminism.org/2009/08/14/when-it-changed-1998/ yours? <wildnfree> I contributed to it - the blog belongs to Kirrily Robert from ubuntu-women <johnc4510> wildnfree: if you have a link to that circus troupe thing please paste it here <wildnfree> We've been mentioned by other people a few times, I could see if I could find some references to those if you like. <tyche> wildnfree: would Kirrily mind you "contributing" an article to the blog, so we could reference it? <johnc4510> sure...the only thing we require for the UWN is that it specifically refers to Ubutnu <johnc4510> Ubuntu <tyche> (Don't mind johnc4510. He's having a hard time spelling today. johnc4510, that's t-o-d-a-y. Hee hee) <johnc4510> wildnfree: also, anytime you have an Ubuntu related article to tell us about, just post it here and we'll look it over <johnc4510> ah <wildnfree> I have found this blog mentioning us and two of the other instructors Elly Cribbens and Rhys Thomas (founder of our troupe) http://artofdancesam.blogspot.com/2008/06/trapeze-classes.html <johnc4510> looking <johnc4510> that's very nice, but it has nothing Ubuntu in it i'm afraid...we only report Ubuntu related news of the recent week <johnc4510> but please let us know if you have anything later <johnc4510> thx <tyche> wildnfree: see PM <wildnfree> what is PM <tyche> Private message <tyche> Depending on the IRC client, you should have a new tab, window, or other reference that you didn't have before. <tyche> It would probably reference my nickname. <wildnfree> At last I can put some Ubuntu related news on this channel :-) <wildnfree> Hello folks: I now have my own blog - Ubuntu And The Art Of An Aerial Acrobat -- http://helen-mccall.blogspot.com/ <wildnfree> I have said some nice things in it about ubuntu-women <andv> wildnfree, cool <andv> wildnfree, looks like you are an enthustiastic contributor <wildnfree> Thanks, I now need to keep blogging regularly so it doesnt get stale, which means that I am going to have to work harder at some of my interests so I have things to write! :-/ <andv> I saw you wanna become an ubuntu member <andv> where do you want to start contributing? <andv> I mean in which area <andv> e.g developing, art, documentation, IRC help, forums, MLs <wildnfree> Once I've got a good grip on the Gnome Documentation Project stuff (reams and reams of it) I could volunteer on documentation. I also intend to maintain the openshot-docs package and the cc-publisher package once I get them accepted by REVU. <andv> wildnfree, are those packages ready already? <wildnfree> andv: what are MLs <andv> mailing lists <andv> wildnfree, what do you mean by 'accepted by REVU'? <andv> you are not able to upload your packages or what? <wildnfree> andv: no I'm still working on learning good Ubuntu packaging from the videos that are on the MOTU site, and improving my first ghastly monstosities of packages which accidentally work ;-) <wildnfree> I don't yet know how to upload to REVU <andv> wildnfree, that's not hard <wildnfree> I've spent the last month just learning enormous amounts of things to do what I have been doing <andv> dput knows 'REVU' as host <andv> so doing dput revu foo.dsc will do the trick for you <andv> * .changes <andv> * foo.changes I meant <wildnfree> does that upload the package as well as the description file? <andv> files that have to be uploaded are set into the .changes file <wildnfree> These are not packages which are in Ubuntu or Debian yet. So I am producing the first .deb packages for them <andv> you need to use debuild -option -option <andv> to choose which kind of upload you may need <wildnfree> I now need to learn how to use the .changes file properly :-/ <andv> debuild -S -sa includes orig tarball <andv> debuild -S doesnt include it <andv> for istance * nhandler thinks this discussion might be better suited for #ubuntu-motu <wildnfree> Aah! All the documentation I found on packaging was assuming that I would be just making changes to an existing package - so I never saw that - brilliant :-) <wildnfree> nhandler: I tried #ubuntu-motu and got no davidhull@example.net. I have had far more help from here just now and from ubuntu-women. The response I got from one member of ubuntu-motu was very dismissive and rude. <andv> nhandler is right ;) <wildnfree> I know ;-) <andv> wildnfree, anyway if you need any help just ask on -motu <andv> if I'm around I'll get to you <andv> if not someone else will help you hopefully <andv> wildnfree, and keep working the way you doing <andv> ;) <wildnfree> Thank you andv. If I want any help may I private message you when you are on this channel - to keep the channel on topic? <andv> yes feel free to pm me if I'm around <wildnfree> Many thanks andv, I will :-) <andv> if I'm online I'm alwais connected to this channel as well <andv> np <andv> have fun with your packaging <andv> it's nice when you learn <andv> :) #ubuntu-news 2009-08-17 <johnc4510> The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue155 <johnc4510> The RSS feed for the Planet seems to be broken again...it's not updating <nhandler> johnc4510: Remember, there is usually a delay for the RSS feeds. RainCT's post showed up in Google Reader for me. I'm still waiting on paultag's <johnc4510> nhandler: the cron job on the server doesn't seem to be updating...i posted the UWN about 3 hrs ago <tyche> johnc4510: let's face it. I always knew you were somewhat out of it. But to not even be on the planet? <tyche> Hee hee <nhandler> Just a heads up, I'm preparing the UDW Fridge post Daniel requested <tyche> OK #ubuntu-news 2009-08-18 <james_w> http://www.myrooki.com/en/tools/webooti.html #ubuntu-news 2009-08-19 <wildnfree> james_w: I like it (webooti). Are you suggesting it for booths at fests? <james_w> someone just pointed it out to me as a device running Ubuntu <james_w> not really a news article to point to, but I thought it might still be of interest for LWN <james_w> UWN even :-) <wildnfree> I agree. They should make more of this sort of news #ubuntu-news 2009-08-20 <johnc4510> joey: http://people.ubuntu.com is that right? I can't seem to access it...maybe it's not up yet? <tyche> It redirects to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom <johnc4510> nods <johnc4510> hey tyche <tyche> Cats don't eat hay. They may piddle in it, but not eat it. Hee hee <johnc4510> more bathroom humor from the peanut gallery i see :) * tyche throws davidhull@example.net. Hee hee * johnc4510 munches hmmmmm <tyche> And you're not old enough to remember vaudeville <tyche> And barely old enough to remember Howdy Doody <johnc4510> oh i remember seeing clips....but you're right that was more your _age_ <johnc4510> :) <johnc4510> i remember howdy doody <tyche> Of course. And with great age comes great wisdom. You don't beliee me? just ask me, I'll tell you. <tyche> :-D <johnc4510> lol <tyche> You want a second opinion? OK, You're ugly. LOL <tyche> We need to do something about -news-teams mailing list. It's starting to get spam. <nhandler> people.ubuntu.com is working fine. I've been using it a few weeks now <nhandler> i.e. people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler <tyche> "The requested URL /~tyche was not found on this server." <johnc4510> same here <nhandler> Did you put anything on them? <tyche> ?? <nhandler> tyche: Did you upload any file to it via sftp ? <tyche> No <nhandler> It might not be active until you connect via sftp. <johnc4510> ah <johnc4510> thx nhandler <tyche> Hmmm. Not particularly intuitive. <nhandler> They also never formally announced it. I only realized it was working by chance <nhandler> Actually, it looks like it is down completely. My site isn't loading either <johnc4510> k * nhandler just went to ask about the issue <johnc4510> thx <nhandler> johnc4510: tyche: It looks like people.ubuntu.com is up and running again <tyche> Yea, I see. Basically, it's an SSH drop box. <nhandler> tyche: Pretty much. It is just minimal web hosting for Ubuntu members. <tyche> I really don't think I have anything to put there. #ubuntu-news 2009-08-21 <nhandler> Could someone who is able to add images to Fridge posts add the book image to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1896 (The image is in Jono's post) and submit it <johnc4510> 3~3~/away <johnc4510> nhandler: image is loaded and i published the article #ubuntu-news 2009-08-23 <johnc4510> The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #156 is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue156 #ubuntu-news 2009-08-24 <wildnfree> tyche: Hello! I have some exciting news for you relating to Ubuntu :-) <wildnfree> james_w: Hello1 do you work on #ubuntu-news? <james_w> hi wildnfree <james_w> not really, no <wildnfree> james_w: They are not like a real news office here. In any normal newsroom if you yell "hot news" everyone wants to know what it is ;-) <james_w> :-) <james_w> I'm interested, but wasn't going to ask as you addressed someone specifically :-) <wildnfree> Tristan Jaimes (alias TJ and IntuitiveNipple - Ubuntu member) has joined the OpenShot development team to help package OpenShot video editor properly for Ubuntu. * wildnfree waits for horde of reporters and editors to descend upon her! ;-) <wildnfree> @wiki editor <wildnfree> I think everyone has gone to tea break - even the bot! <wildnfree> ubuntulog: Hello <wildnfree> boredandblogging: I think they are all out at tea break here. <boredandblogging> :-) <wildnfree> !msg <andv> wildnfree, hi <andv> you re-appeared again? <wildnfree> Hello andv <wildnfree> andv: I re-appeared again - but everyone seemed to have gone on a tea break ;-) <andv> in europe it's a bit late <andv> midnight over here <wildnfree> andv: 23:04 here in Britain <andv> one hour less then <andv> :) <andv> from where I live <andv> wildnfree, any news from your contributions? <wildnfree> andv: yes I have another contribution to make <andv> which is? <wildnfree> andv: Tristan Jaimes (alias TJ and IntuitiveNipple - Ubuntu member) has joined the OpenShot development team to help package OpenShot video editor properly for Ubuntu. <andv> nice, you should start writing an article about that then <wildnfree> andv: would you like me to write it up properly and concisely and email it to you? <andv> I would prefer you to send it to the whole ML <andv> so everyone can add a comment / suggestion on it <wildnfree> andv: That is what I meant ;-) <wildnfree> andv: what is the official email address to send it to? <andv> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team <andv> subscribe here * wildnfree starts running through subscription form <wildnfree> andv: You will have to wait until tomorrow for the article because the mailserver I use has been playing up all day and is broken again just now. :-( <andv> wildnfree, take your time <andv> after sending your article you'll start receiving some feedbacks <wildnfree> yes? <andv> (hopefully yes9 <andv> * (hopefully yes) <wildnfree> andv: what do I do then? <andv> fix if there is something wrong <andv> improve your work if neede <andv> * needed <andv> until a team member / more team members are satisfied <andv> with it <wildnfree> andv: then what happens? <andv> it will get added on the fridge or ubuntu weekly news <wildnfree> andv: I've never quite understood what the fridge is? <andv> http://fridge.ubuntu.com <andv> wildnfree, start having a look at news team wiki pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam <andv> wildnfree, get started with those documents * wildnfree reading avidly :-) <andv> ;) <wildnfree> andv: Should I apply to join the team on launchpad? <andv> which team? <wildnfree> ubuntu-news <wildnfree> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-news <andv> it is an open team for every new contributor <andv> who wanna help out <andv> so ues <wildnfree> andv: I just found lots of templates for artwork :-) <andv> :) <wildnfree> andv: if I apply for full membership of Ubuntu - do they take account of all the non-ubuntu activities I have doen such as my work on Wikipedia and the LBC forum etc? <andv> wildnfree, nope <andv> wildnfree, ubuntu-specific contributions only <wildnfree> andv: I thought so. I will have to find plenty of things Ubuntu to do then, but I am not giving up the Wikipedia work :-) <andv> wildnfree, you don't have to give up your wikipedia work to contribute to ubuntu <andv> :) <andv> no one will ask you to give up anything <andv> they will encourage you instead <wildnfree> andv: Is there any Wikipedia work that Ubuntu needs doing? Because I am getting a dab hand at Wikipedia with publishing media with the correct licensing and cross referencing and validating things with correct references etc <andv> wildnfree, don't know, but I guess yes <andv> wildnfree, there are plenty obsolete pages <andv> which would require some love <andv> but you should ask someone else <wildnfree> andv: any idea who or where I should ask if Ubuntu needs Wikipedia skills <andv> maybe to the wiki team (subteam of the ubuntu-docs one, I guess) <wildnfree> andv: thanks! <andv> np <andv> you'll find all informations on the wikis <andv> it's a good way to start finding out what to search and where <andv> you'll need it for your next contributions <andv> e.g finding a correct wiki page / doc regarding a particular team's informations <wildnfree> andv: My mail server just worked for a moment so I am now subscribed to the ML :-) <andv> :) <wildnfree> andv: many thanks for your help. I am going to save this transcript now and then go to bed. Good Night :-) <andv> good night <andv> and np #ubuntu-news 2009-08-27 <emma> high there <nhandler> Hey emma <johnc4510> hey all <nhandler> o/ <johnc4510> >.< <emma> hey there :) #ubuntu-news 2009-08-30 <nhandler> Just a reminder that we will be including the Team Reports in the UWN for today. I am working on preparing them now. <tyche> Thanks, nhandler <johnc4510> nhandler: thx <sayakb> johnc4510: quick question :) people.ubuntu.com -- what ubuntu related page should I make now? :( .. you want me to paste ideatorrent code there? :P <sayakb> seriously, all I can think of my blog with all kde stuff thrown, and a link to my own website.. <johnc4510> sayakb: have you read this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom <johnc4510> so anything that you feel might improve ubuntu can be used <johnc4510> i believe it is a sort of idea pool to for ideas to improve ubuntu <sayakb> :D brainstorm.ubuntu.com <sayakb> anyway.. i guess I get the point <sayakb> i'll either find something, or well, not use my page at all :P <johnc4510> lol...i'm not sure what i'm going to use my page for yet either <nhandler> Team Reports are up <johnc4510> nhandler: THX bud!! <nhandler> :) <tyche> Nice formatting, nhandler <nhandler> tyche: I'm still working on automating the formatting. It is a PITA to get the links done right <tyche> Yep. I bet. <tyche> OK I've got come camelcases to fix in Ubuntu Development Teams (Xubuntu Team) <tyche> EEEEWWWWWWW!!!! What happened to the link in the Greek Team? <tyche> Never mind. I see what happened. It's all Greek, to me. <nhandler> Ah, sorry about the camelcases. I forgot to go back and check for those <tyche> That's what I'm here for <tyche> They're not very easy to spot in the edit screen <johnc4510> nhandler: the formatting was much better this time...nice job :) <sayakb> johnc4510: btw, I'd really like to do more with uwn.. brainstorm top 5 is fine, but its too small of a task. considering the fact that I am on gprs and hence slow internet, anything I can prepare beforehand before relasing? <sayakb> s/releasing <johnc4510> sayakb: ok, let me think on that a bit...i'll get back to you this next wk with some extra work...and thx <johnc4510> :) <sayakb> johnc4510: that will be great :) <johnc4510> kk <johnc4510> The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #157 is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue157 #ubuntu-news 2009-08-31 <kennymc0> good morning <nhandler> I just added a note to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar mentioning that users should check the box that says 'Guests can modify event' <nhandler> tyche: When you get a chance, could you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar and let me know if I left anything out. I think it is complete, but I would like a second opinion #ubuntu-news 2010-08-01 <highvoltage> akgraner: howdy! How is news looking this week so far? * highvoltage opens https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204 and notices it needs some work and dives in <nhandler> Team Reports will get added today. <highvoltage> nhandler: the newspaper logo still has the old Ubuntu logo on it, can I update id to include the new logo? <highvoltage> so it would be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newspaper-icon3.jpg vs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newspaper-icon4.jpg <highvoltage> (I'll just do another upload just now without the stupid black line <highvoltage> (ok already done) <akgraner> highvoltage, please send me the new graphic when you get it so I can replace it in multiple areas <highvoltage> akgraner: here it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newspaper-icon4.jpg <akgraner> highvoltage, thanks I need to change the template on with wiki, the forums and the fridge :-) appreciate you taking time to add the new logo <highvoltage> you're welcome, I'm a gimpoholic anyway <akgraner> :-) * akgraner makes notes so I know who to bug about things :-P <highvoltage> :) <nhandler> highvoltage: Looks great! <akgraner> nhandler, thanks for all your hardwork with the team reports I really appreciate it <nhandler> You are welcome akgraner <nhandler> I was thinking, do you think it would be useful to actually either a) publish the team reports in full on the fridge b) send them to some ML or c) Do a combination of a and b? That way, more people would actually see them (possibly encouraging more teams to publish them) <akgraner> I have to go get my daughter but is someone wants to add the Podcast reports that would be great! Not sure if there is any this week - check UUPC, Jono's Ustream cast and Full Circle PC, <akgraner> combination :-) <akgraner> I would like to add a section for team reports <akgraner> and just pop them in there on the Fridge <highvoltage> should I go ahead with Upcoming meetings and events or is that scripted already? <nhandler> highvoltage: It isn't scripted. The recurring events mess it up <highvoltage> ok <akgraner> scott_ev, are you working on Upcoming meetings <akgraner> highvoltage, scott_ev usually does it - check with him <akgraner> highvoltage, nope it's not scripted yet - mdz also asked what things he could help automate to make the process easier <akgraner> scott_ev, ^^^^ <highvoltage> akgraner, scott_ev: ok, I did it, I hope it's ok <akgraner> highvoltage, check the meeting places <akgraner> as some of those meetings aren't held in -meeting <akgraner> ie desktop is one that isn't <akgraner> also pull the LoCo team information off of the newsletter <akgraner> right now they can stay on the Fridge but we aren't including those in the newsletter b/c every LoCo team will want theirs included and I can't say yes to some and no to others <akgraner> we have the LoCo calendar now ready to be populated but I need to get the instructions on how loco teams can add to it ready <akgraner> then announce it <akgraner> I'll try to get that done next week <akgraner> someone remind me on Wednesday if I haven't completed that yet :-/ <highvoltage> ok <highvoltage> oops, yes I see where I messed up with meeting places <highvoltage> akgraner: I'm going to get distracted by lunch for a bit, but if there's something you'd like me to do later (like summaries, etc) just give me a poke <nhandler> akgraner: I can get that done. We want it done the same way as the fridge cal? <nhandler> akgraner: Links/URLs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/LoCoCalendar are now updated. I still need to make a few changes to the page (the core of it was copied from the fridge calendar page) <akgraner> nhandler, yep <akgraner> same as Fridge but where is says fridge it's LoCo Cal <akgraner> and where is has the link to the Fridge Cal it needs to be loco Cal <akgraner> I can't change the way the Front page of the Fridge looks but if you could add a header in the side bar that says "Calendars" <akgraner> then under that links to - the Fridge Calendar, The Classroom Calendar as well as the LoCo Calendar that would be awesome <nhandler> I thought I was able to do that, but I couldn't find it last time I looked. <nhandler> I poked newz about it the last time I looked <nhandler> (no response) <akgraner> nhandler, ahh ok - I'll email him :-) <akgraner> I'll poke joey as well as see if he can still do it :-/ (worth asking) <nhandler> Last time something like this happened, newz changed the permissions so that editors were able to make the necessary change (he wanted the editor group to basically have full control) <nhandler> Team Reports are up <zkriesse> Heya newsies <akgraner> nhandler, thanks! <akgraner> nhandler, can you review the upcoming meetings please <akgraner> and make corrections as necessary <nhandler> akgraner: I can, but it will need to wait until after lunch <akgraner> nhandler, that's fine :-) <akgraner> I'm shoot for a 6pm EDT publish time <akgraner> Daviey, ping <akgraner> are you around and have 10 mins? <Daviey> akgraner: o/ <Daviey> currently in the car.. wassup? <akgraner> Daviey, if you are driving no worries just had some more technical articles I wanted you to look at for me <nhandler> akgraner: Is the 'Bug Jam' a LoCo bug jam event? <akgraner> yep <nhandler> akgraner: Alright, then I'll remove it from the UWN <nhandler> akgraner: Is there a certain place holder text that is used for days with no events? <nhandler> Other than that, the Upcoming Meetings is good to go #ubuntu-news 2010-08-02 <akgraner> nUboon2Age, ping - the articles you pulled this week are great! - Thanks and the you listed them are so easy to tweak! THANKS!!!! <zkriesse> hey akgraner <akgraner> zkriesse, hey! <zkriesse> akgraner: how's the household <zkriesse> last i knew you guys weren't doing so good <akgraner> oh we're doing well now :-) <zkriesse> Good to hear Ma'am <akgraner> everyone is home and doing well - I have a friend whom I haven't seen since '89 when we were stationed davidhull@example.net. Huachuca AZ visiting this week <akgraner> He's helping me write some summaries :-) it's a fun time :-) <zkriesse> akgraner: Stationed? <akgraner> we were in the Army together <zkriesse> You a military woman? <akgraner> yep <akgraner> Army <zkriesse> AWESOME! * zkriesse is working toward joining <zkriesse> Actually I was gonna take the oath last year and then they denied me <akgraner> I loved it - I was only in for 4 years Pete was in for 17 <zkriesse> Pete is who? <nhandler> zkriesse: Pete Graner (her husband) <zkriesse> Ah <akgraner> nhandler, thanks! <nhandler> akgraner: See my question about the Upcoming Meetings Section from earlier (and my PMs) ? <akgraner> I did thank you! <akgraner> and it's "Nothing listed as of publication" <nhandler> akgraner: Alright. I thought that was just for no agenda items. <akgraner> either works as long as we are consistent on all days <nhandler> :) <akgraner> I'll look the info in the PM once I get this published:-) won't be that much longer just getting all the info in one place <nhandler> akgraner: Alright. No rush on that stuff. It was more FYI than needing any action <akgraner> Thanks! :-) <nUboon2Age> akgraner: oh, i'm glad that worked better. :) I've been dealing w/ hardware problems and feel very depleted right now. <akgraner> I'm sorry - That's how I felt earlier this week <nUboon2Age> akgraner: yes i know you can relate. <nUboon2Age> akgraner: q: how are we dealing with the whole blowup about concerns whether canonical contributes enough to Gnome story? <akgraner> It will be included in General Community News <akgraner> I contacted Jono earlier to run through how I was going to post it <nUboon2Age> i saw a twitter item from matt assay where he pointed out the survey covered all history, not just say past year, so that Canonical could never catch up, and therefore the stat was not useful. salient point imo. <nUboon2Age> http://twitter.com/mjasay/status/19827108806 <akgraner> there are a ton of myths that got stirred up there <akgraner> not with Matt Asay's article as I haven't read it yet <akgraner> just the whole discussion all the way around <akgraner> :-/ <nUboon2Age> Matt's thing (above) is just a quick twitter post. this kind of thing seems to fit into preconceived notions re: Canonical and then people jump into their preconstructed foxholes. But the really unfortunate thing is that the preconceived notions have grown as pervasive as they seem to have. There are probably at least some reasons for them which it would be good for Canonical and Ubuntu to really make a large effort to <nUboon2Age> try to extract itself from as well as mythbust in order to regain goodwill. <nUboon2Age> otherwise its just seen as another arrogant corporate power, whether deservedly or not. <nUboon2Age> are we going to cover Mark Shuttleworth's (belated) apology for unfortunate comments last fall which came out (i think) today? or will that be held for next week? <nUboon2Age> akgraner: ^^^^ <akgraner> what comments? - I haven't looked at anything from today <akgraner> got a link <nUboon2Age> i'll find one... <akgraner> is it on his blog <akgraner> 1st what comments last fall - and which apology? <nUboon2Age> while i'm looking here's the link that i forgot before re: System76: http://netbook-expert.com/2010/07/system76-continues-linnux-netbook-line-with-second-gen-starling/ <akgraner> I am going to have to cut something :-) <akgraner> it's getting way to long :-( <nUboon2Age> akgraner: i understand and expected that. no worries. <akgraner> nUboon2Age, hmmm the title has Linux spelled Linnux <nUboon2Age> :P here's a reasonable coverage article of the apology: http://it.moldova.org/news/mark-shuttleworth-apologises-to-girls-211170-eng.html <nUboon2Age> this one is more detailed: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/mark-shuttleworth-apologises-for.html <akgraner> oh THOSE comments <akgraner> O.o <nUboon2Age> i read up on the whole thing. major oops on MS's part. too bad the apology took 11 months. <akgraner> Next week it's dated today <nUboon2Age> okay, that's good. <akgraner> sigh <akgraner> anywho <nUboon2Age> okay i may be able to gather some energy and pitch in. is there something i could help with right now? <akgraner> nUboon2Age, I wish - just organize it right now but if you are around in like an hour could you proof <nUboon2Age> sure, i'll try to check in now and again and see if you've pinged me akgraner. <akgraner> nUboon2Age, thanks!!! <zkriesse> who needs proofing? <zkriesse> and of what? <akgraner> zkriesse, not yet but soon :-) <akgraner> ISsue 204 <zkriesse> Awwww <akgraner> ugh the wiki is so S-L-O-W tonight <zkriesse> it's not for me <zkriesse> The wiki loves all the attention i give it though <akgraner> crap brb - grrrrr.......gotta luv technology <akgraner> hey all in case you haven't read this - http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/old-wounds/ <akgraner> I just tweeted and dented and FB'd it <nUboon2Age> (not thinking of this for newsletter, but just interest) Microsoft Windows BSOD Caused Deepwater Horizon Disaster(?) http://techrights.org/2010/07/23/blue-screen-of-death-and-bp/ <akgraner> nUboon2Age, I would not include it - while it may be a valid point - I am not inclined to include stuff like that <nUboon2Age> no i was just passing it along to y'all for interest not for newsletter (as i said above) :) <akgraner> ahhh <akgraner> sorry - let me go back to one thing at a time <akgraner> :-/ <akgraner> nUboon2Age, I'm writing my the GCN stuff now - if you want to review what is there already on the wiki <nUboon2Age> akgraner: okay i'll start davidhull@example.net. :) <nUboon2Age> akgraner: one question that i wasn't sure about when i was putting the articles in an am still wondering about is whether we have (or want) to have a way to indicate where quotes begin and end? <akgraner> nah - all content in the newsletter is posted other places <akgraner> we just need to make sure when possible we point out who wrote it and make sure we link back to it <akgraner> it make is way to hard when I am reformatting for other areas <akgraner> I tried using italics but then I have to remove them all <akgraner> I tried quotes - but you might as well put everything in quotes <akgraner> and sometimes we quote people quoting other people which looks really funny - like ""this"" <akgraner> all over the place <akgraner> so people who read the newletter know we are only consolidating what is out there <nUboon2Age> okay, good enough <nUboon2Age> akgraner: here's a point that's a bit awkward where we might want some editing: (under Ubuntu Server makes gains at SUSE Linux' expense ) That said, Canonical Ltd.â... <nUboon2Age> but i didn't put in the preceding part <nUboon2Age> well i suppose when i read the sentence you put before that its not too awkward after all... <akgraner> I was going to fix that just haven't gotten there yet <nUboon2Age> i guess its just the transition from our summary sentence to the quote that feels a little odd... <akgraner> nUboon2Age, just drop those 1st 2 paragraph's in <nUboon2Age> spelling: Loco Council: .... inforaml <akgraner> where are you looking <akgraner> Team Reports <akgraner> we refer to the LoCo Council as just that <akgraner> the "LoCo Council" <nUboon2Age> akgraner: i think they meant 'informal' not 'inforaml', yes? <akgraner> oh I wasn't looking at that sorry <nUboon2Age> that's what i was pointing out, not Loco/LoCO (my misspelling. :) ) <akgraner> I though you were saying LoCo Council was informal for Local Community Council <akgraner> DOH! <akgraner> nUboon2Age, typically we don't fix posts that are a direct quote but spelling errors I usually try to - btw it's fixed now <nUboon2Age> i dropped a paragraph into ietherpad...ideas to patch up that article (don't know if that's what you meant by drop, but the main wiki page isn't editable by me so ... <akgraner> b/c if we don't then - people think the news team misspelled it and not the original writer but I don't feel like adding [sip] in front of all spelling errors <nUboon2Age> other than that i didn't notice anything else akgraner. <akgraner> that's fine <akgraner> :-) <akgraner> Thank you! <akgraner> I'll add that to the wiki <akgraner> since I am in and out of it right now <nUboon2Age> looks good. Very informative. i enjoyed reading about Xubuntu and Kubuntu in particular, having used both. <akgraner> :-) <akgraner> nUboon2Age, just an FYI for ya - you'll see in the wiki marks that look like `` <akgraner> this to break the camelcase or Hotlinks were the works are in wiki format <akgraner> also b/c we are in and out of the document saving it a million times over we always use trivial change and remove trailing white space box as well <akgraner> other wise people like dholbach will get a million emails in his inbox every sunday <nUboon2Age> akgraner: where do i look to see those marks? <akgraner> clook at the drop down menu <akgraner> and click on raw data <akgraner> and you'll see them on the various words <akgraner> don't click edit right now as I am in the wiki <nUboon2Age> oh, okay i see them. now it makes sense. <nUboon2Age> will Lubuntu start being covered when after they become official (10.10 i guess)? i've been hearing them interviewed a lot on various podcasts. <akgraner> Let's talk about all that tomorrow or the next got a few more things to add - and I've forgotten about my swamp at the moment :-) <nUboon2Age> there was an article that brought out that point about Matt Asay's tweet which seems important to me... let me see if i can find it. it was fairly balanced i thought... <nUboon2Age> Canonical's Disconnect with Linux Developer Community, http://www.itworld.com/open-source/115819/canonicals-disconnect-linux-developer-community <nUboon2Age> i think that would be good to add to the list of articles. <nUboon2Age> it actually comes down pretty much positive towards Canonical by the end (not that i think only positive things should be reported -- i don't) but i thought that one covered the whole debate pretty well and brought out some important points the other articles on the list missed. <nUboon2Age> akgraner: ^^^ <akgraner> I don't want to add more to that - as Greg ended up apologizing - but I'll look at it <akgraner> :-) <nUboon2Age> yeah, i'd put it before Greg's apology note. <akgraner> Normally it wouldn't matter b/c UWN would have been published hours ago - but I'm not back on my schedule yet <nUboon2Age> yup, and then this kurfuffle comes up to complicate things. :/ <akgraner> just one of those things - :-) <akgraner> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204 <YoBoY> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue204#Ubuntu North Carolina LoCo Team << this title don't have the right level i think <akgraner> YoBoY, thanks it's fixed now :-) <akgraner> Thanks for another awesome week you all! Everything thing has been posted and we are ready for a new week in Ubuntu News - Thanks agian! <akgraner> Here are the links for working on next weeks issue: <akgraner> etherpad for adding summaries - http://ietherpad.com/UWN <akgraner> etherpad for adding links and titles only - http://ietherpad.com/UWN-Ideas <akgraner> googledoc - https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en <akgraner> wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue205 <YoBoY> stupid question, why the Translation Stats Lucid always show the same langages ? <akgraner> YoBoY, it the languages with the most activity <akgraner> we can't include them all - I wish we could <akgraner> Grr - I have to leave my house in 1.5 hours to take my daughter to band camp - and so ends my summer :-) <YoBoY> i'm asking that because 2 things bother me on this "Translation Stats", first one is seeing the english in the first place, we are translating from english strings, not the opposite, second one is this freezed list who never change, not really usefull to see every week the same list. <akgraner> sorry about that - :-/ my computer just shut down for no reason - hmmmm <akgraner> YoBoY, I am open to suggestions :-) <YoBoY> well... i don't know how do you have this list ^^" <YoBoY> but my first suggestion is to delete the english entry :p <akgraner> YoBoY, take a look where we pull the information from -https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/ - I have to take my daughter to band camp soon - but I will be back later today - but feel free to email suggestions - I'll also talk to dpm about it and see what suggestions he has <YoBoY> yes i have seen this page, but this don't help me understand how the stats work ^^ i'll try to write a mail about it <akgraner> YoBoY, I'm sorry I don't have time to get explain it right this second :-( when I get back home - I'll see if you are around ok? <YoBoY> no problem :) we have time to talk about this #ubuntu-news 2010-08-03 <zkriesse> hey scott_ev <zkriesse> scott_ev: How's it going my friend <zkriesse> wb scott_ev <zkriesse> hello strangeriam <strangeriam> oh, hello :-) <strangeriam> I think that's the /away <strangeriam> oops <zkriesse> /away is the away command <strangeriam> I think that's the first time in years that I was greeted the second I got into the channel :-) <zkriesse> lol <zkriesse> I tend to do that <strangeriam> zkriesse: yea, two parallel thoughts at the same time <zkriesse> Lol <strangeriam> I was wondering about the akgraner offer to contribute to the UWN <strangeriam> how's that should work? <strangeriam> and maybe I should do this: <alourie> ok <alourie> now better <zkriesse> Well I'm not sure.. <zkriesse> What did she tell you? <alourie> zkriesse: oh, nothing yet, I'm just following the blog post <zkriesse> Ah <akgraner> Hey all! <akgraner> How goes the day so far? <zkriesse> hey akgraner <akgraner> Has any one here ever used mail chimp? <zkriesse> Nada <zkriesse> What is it? <akgraner> hey all remember we have a News Team Meeting on Thursday at 2300UTC - I'll send to mailing list as well as the LP teams <zkriesse> halloo akgraner ma'am <akgraner> hey! <zkriesse> Hows your day <akgraner> what's up? How are ya? ps ma'am makes me feel old :-P <zkriesse> ok sorry <akgraner> no worries - I am teasing you a bit... <zkriesse> Eh I stayed up till 8 am and woke up at 1:30 so i'm doing ok <akgraner> I wish there was a way to express the light hearted conversation better <zkriesse> True <akgraner> woo hoo - just got the email that one of the talks I submitted to OLF was accepted - happy dance \o/ <zkriesse> nice <akgraner> I think so - it's titled "Volunteer Vertigo and
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