#ubuntu-server 2006-07-01 <penguin42> Is there a non-hardware-specific kernel testing set that is used before release - e.g. a set of filesystem exercises and network exercises to really hammer a kernel? #ubuntu-server 2006-07-02 <A-Kaser> poy poy <RShadow> I need some help with reinstalling postfix... I deleted /etc/postfix to start over and now I can't reinstall it.. what should I do? <lionelp> What is your error RShadow ? <RShadow> I removed /etc/postfix and now when I try to install postfix againi it says /etc/postfix/postfix-script is missing <lionelp> apt-get install --reinstall postfix <RShadow> I've tried that and -f to force and -d to download it and dpkg -i install it.. all with the same results <lionelp> did you try to remove it apt-get remove --purge postfix <RShadow> no.. didn't try that yet..let me give it a shot <RShadow> Thanks! <RShadow> worked out good <Zambezi> Anybody knows glftpd? I'm confused. max_users 15 5 means 15 users online and 5 is downloading/uploading? <RShadow> anyone running apache 2.2? <J_P> hi all <J_P> people, are there some url where explaim diferences between normal kernel and server kernel in ubuntu-server ? <screeb> J_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelServerRoadmap <screeb> it could help you <J_P> screeb: thanks! <J_P> hey all, I find one problem in ubuntu-server: <J_P> I try in /usr/src do this : tar -xvf <TAB> <TAB>. the first <TAB> complete line with this : root@concord:/usr/src# tar -xvf linux-source-2.6.15.tar, but second <TAB> not show nothing and congeals the terminal, but in anoteher temirnal i was running top and I see that first terminal where I set two times <TAB> using 99% of cpu. and machine was reaaly very slowest. That is a bug ? #ubuntu-server 2006-07-03 <J_P> anyone here can see this problem, I think is a big bug! <J_P> after 35 seconds second <TAB> show root@concord:/usr/src# tar -xvf linux-source-2.6.15.tar linux-source-2.6.15/ and cpu come back to normal use. <J_P> this ocurred only with user jpsuser. User jpsuser is one user with root userid and gid : root@concord:~# cat /etc/passwd | grep -i jpsuser <J_P> jpsuser:x:0:0:,,,:/home/jpsuser:/bin/bash. <J_P> Using normal root user: sudo -i this problem I don't have! <Jeeves__> Ok, don't know if this is a question for this channel but i am running Ubuntu server and am having problem using SSH to remote it <Jeeves__> Once in it is ok but it takes an age to ask me for the password <Jeeves__> and it sometimes times out so even if I enter the write password it closes he connection. <Jeeves__> any ideas why this could be? <dekopolis> howdy <dekopolis> was hoping someone could help me uninstall a network adapter and reconfigure networking <dekopolis> anyone..? <stromham> hello <mooseman447> hey <mooseman447> whats up guys <stromham> nm <mooseman447> im considering setting up hosting for a couple ppl very simple and i wanted to give them ssh access is there any way i can log their ssh so i know if they are trying to mess with me? <fowlduck> do you think it is reasonably possible to run DNS for one domain, Apache (running a rails app and a mono app), and one email server on a P3 933 MHz with 512 MB RAM? <mikal-laptop> Yes <avalente> hello <avalente> If I install ubuntu-server and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, will I get the Server+GUI or will I get the same as Ubuntu Desktop? <mooseman447> hey <mooseman447> anybody here? <A-Kaser> reuh #ubuntu-server 2006-07-04 <J_P> hey all, I am compiling kernel, I compile the kernel and install ok, but I try install second compiled kernel but the new kernel try create same name in /lib/modules/... But In kernel package I specific diferent argument in --revision : root@concord:/usr/src# make-kpkg --revision=test.1.0 kernel-image. <J_P> So, I have this kernel do install via dpkg -i : kernel-image-936-429-9875-ubuntu1_normal.kernel.conf.p156.14.161.142_i386.deb and kernel-image-936-429-9875-ubuntu1_p156.14.161.142_i386.deb. But first kernel create dir /lib/modules/936-429-9875-ubuntu1/ and when i try install second kernel ubuntu show error for me that dir /lib/modules/936-429-9875-ubuntu1/ already exist. Why if my argumtn in --revision when compile is diferent ? <nnonix> anyone have any idea why postfix would respond 502 for a single computer on another network when it issues EHLO whatever? <nnonix> This is nuts, it only happens on a single machine. <mikal-laptop> Anything in the logs at that time? <nnonix> just connect / disconnect <mikal-laptop> 502 == command not implemented <nnonix> yep <mikal-laptop> I'd run ethereal and see what's happening <nnonix> I'm considering it <mikal-laptop> It's prolly your best bet <nnonix> nothing on the net I can find <nnonix> tnx <thefish> i have made a xen dom0 kernel for ubuntu, (enabled MD support), made a new partition (type 8e), but now i cant create a lvm pv: "Can't open /dev/hdb1 exclusively. Mounted filesystem?", I also cant format it. I tried lsof | grep hdb1, but that didnt return anything. Any idea what i could look for? #ubuntu-server 2006-07-05 <ball> hello ivoks <ivoks> hi <ball> hello stomham <ball> stromham* <stromham> ? <stromham> hello <ball> Does #ubuntu work well with dual-core or dual-processor PCs? <stromham> do what/ <ball> (I'm pondering edubuntu and I think all the apps would run on one box, so it would have to be fairly beefy) <ball> (or as beefy as PCs get anyway) <ball> Something I said? <ivoks> it works wll with dual processors <ivoks> i didn't try it on dual-core :) <ball> ivoks: thanks, that gives me a alexanderlisa@example.com. Does it balance the load across the two chips? <ivoks> ball: like any other linux distribution <ball> I'm new to Linux <maswan> it works fine on dual core too, but this is fairly off-topic fo server development discussion <ivoks> agree. :) <ball> Sorry. <A-Kaser> poy poy <Jeeves_> Ola! <Jeeves_> Are there known issues with Ubuntu Server 6.06 on a Dual Xeon? <Jeeves_> I have some 'non responding' CPU's... <A-Kaser> no <Jeeves_> Hmm <Jeeves_> It's funny, the installer kernel boots, but the installed kernel reboots half way <RShadow> I current have a remote ubuntu server, that I like to monitor remotely.. currenty I have a bunch of terms sshed into the machine to view various things.. however this eats up alot of the server resources.. any ideas for a better way? <A-Kaser> snmp + cacti <RShadow> can you elaborate a little bit (or possible point me in the direction of a decent HOWTO) <A-Kaser> hum <A-Kaser> generally <A-Kaser> the server are monitored by snmp <A-Kaser> it's a protocol and a daemon <A-Kaser> after you can check the data over network and archvied <A-Kaser> cacti http://www.cacti.net/ <A-Kaser> can display information and history <RShadow> cool. I'll check it out <lionelp> RShadow: there is a page on help.ubuntu.com/community on cacti (probably h.u.c/community/cacti) <RShadow> awsome... Thanks for the info <Kamion> Would someone who's experienced in writing specifications mind writing some use cases for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuServerTasks? I've done the rest of the specification, but I couldn't quite face the use cases ... <Kamion> some way to make them not just effectively a copy of the design would be nice * Kamion tries prodding neuralis too <A-Kaser> ? <Kamion> A-Kaser: was that directed at me? <A-Kaser> yes :) <Kamion> A-Kaser: if you have no idea what I'm talking about, please ignore it <A-Kaser> ok if you want <Kamion> ah, good, neuralis has volunteered <A-Kaser> I never use a "specified" server install, because we don't know which packages will be installed <A-Kaser> so we make all the servers install manually <FunnyLookinHat> I'm setting up a very basic X server on my ubuntu server install and did an install xserver-xorg and configured it but it's telling me: <FunnyLookinHat> Fatal server error: <FunnyLookinHat> could not open default font 'fixed' <FunnyLookinHat> What package do I have to install to get that error fixed?? <FunnyLookinHat> Ahh, found it... x-window-system-core <terje> hi, I'd like to configure my freshly installed ubuntu-server as a nat-gateway for a subnet I'm working. <terje> err.. working on. <terje> any pointers? <A-Kaser> terje, nop <lionelp> terje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo #ubuntu-server 2006-07-06 <terje> cool, I'll get it worked out, thanks. <terje> I figured there might be some nifty tool I could use. <andyp> hi Toadstool! <andyp> is this the right place to ask/talk about getting an alien 'server' package included, possibly...??? or is alien good enough for server? <andyp> i'm asking about 'samba-vscan', i think I used an RPM <andyp> any server dudes hereabouts? ;-) <andyp> hi fabbione! <fabbione> hello <andyp> do the server guys (n gals) meet up anytime? <andyp> do you know> <andyp> opps, do you know? <andyp> i had question about an alien server package <fabbione> andyp: alien server package? <andyp> getting it included, that is <andyp> the 'samba-vscan' package, i used an RPM i think <fabbione> meh no <fabbione> it needs to be done properly <grenegar> thanks for sparc port fabbione <fabbione> grenegar: welcome :) <fabbione> grenegar: i hope it works for you <grenegar> very well! running on 2 ultra 10s at the moment <fabbione> nice <fabbione> grenegar: are you using them as workstation with X? <grenegar> try a SS20 soon when I have (lots of) time. <fabbione> we don't support 32 bit.. only UltraSparc <grenegar> I had loaded the dapper beta with gnome and it worked well (very minor glitches) <fabbione> and iirc the SS20 is 32 <grenegar> oh ya. doh! <fabbione> grenegar: great.. do you think you can collect gfx hw info for me and send me the generated xorg.conf and how it should have been done? includeing a prtconf -p -v would help too <grenegar> now I have loaded dapper release 'server' install - no gui. very good so far <grenegar> slick - no glitches yet <fabbione> nice <grenegar> k. i will reload reload 'desktop' install and do that <fabbione> grenegar: well don't feel forced to. if you can it would be handy <grenegar> it's ok - i love to experiment with this <grenegar> i recall using generic ati driver - worked fine. <fabbione> ok :) <grenegar> xorg.conf was very basic. no treaks. 1024x768x24 @85Hz <grenegar> i recall having to fix the apt headers file so i could be parsed, but it was fine when i did the latest 'server' install. <grenegar> 'it' could be parsed :) <grenegar> i also recall that when loading gnome desktop all gnome panel apps crash and prompt for restart.once restarted, it was fine <grenegar> hope this helps... <fabbione> grenegar: ok thanks! #ubuntu-server 2006-07-07 <thefish> anyone know if there are plans on getting a xen ubuntu kernel into any apt repos? <lionelp> thefish: it is forseen for Edgy <lionelp> See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/xen-edgy <thefish> ooh nice <thefish> thank lionelp <thefish> when is the planned release for it, 6.10? <lionelp> yes, Edgy is 6.10 <lionelp> release is planned for 26 of october <thefish> cool * thefish dribbles <thefish> ive got some domUs running dapper now, but it was not quick and easy <thefish> would be really nice to apt-get a xen kernel <Shere`Khan> can i manage an local network with ubuntu server ? (can i see the bandwith, traffic metter for each IP, traffic limiter for each IP, port locker.....) <lionelp> Shere`Khan: yes you can, but you have to install specific tool <lionelp> there is no out-of-the-box interface to do so <thefish> Shere`Khan: sounds like you want a firewall/router distro instead <thefish> but ubuntu can do that <thefish> if you dont want to get your hands dirty, try ipcop - it does a lot of that stuff and has plugins that can do more <Shere`Khan> and .. where can i get the tools? <thefish> apt <Shere`Khan> and where do i get that ?>:) <Shere`Khan> and.. another question .. i have 4 lines of adsl .. can i put them all in one server ?? <Shere`Khan> ? <thefish> yes you can, but be prepared for a lot of reading <Shere`Khan> .. <Shere`Khan> :D <Shere`Khan> i`m here <Shere`Khan> :P <Shere`Khan> ...... <Shere`Khan> where can i find the documentation ? <lionelp> I thinks this one is a good starting point : http://lartc.org/ <lionelp> It is not Ubuntu specific but it is very complete <Shere`Khan> it says and how i put 4 lines into a server ? <thefish> apparently ubuntu can set up a certified lamp server with a single command. Google is full of this claim, but does anyone have any idea what this magic command is? <fabbione> thefish: at install time <fabbione> select lamp <J_P> hi all <thefish> fabbione: no way after install? <fabbione> manullu <fabbione> manually <fabbione> apt-get install packanges... <fabbione> the packages do work out of the box no matter how you install them <goldrake> someone has yet installed ubuntu on openpower server? <aurelyano_18> can i open an http site on ubuntu server ??????? <lionelp> aurelyano_18: yes !!!!!!! <aurelyano_18> how????? <spike> I guess that 18 is a typo, the one you wanted is just 2 keys on the right <aurelyano_18> >:) <lionelp> aurelyano_18: what do you mean by " open an http site on ubuntu server" ? <aurelyano_18> never mind <aurelyano_18> how do i change the resolution from terminal?????? <aurelyano_18> how do i change the resolution from terminal?????? <lionelp> aurelyano_18: I think thath your "?" key is blocked :) <lionelp> this is not relative to server by the way :) <aurelyano_18> i just instaled the desktop <lionelp> for desktop questions, #ubuntu is the good channel <aurelyano_18> oo tnx <mneisen> Hello! <mneisen> Is there a way to install ubuntu on a remote server where I have access to a rescue system (i.e., I have no way to insert an installation CD into the machine)? <lionelp> mneisen: you can use a debootstrap <mneisen> lionelp: do you have some pointer or URL to a tutorial/howto? <lionelp> no, but I am sure that you will find good examples on google <lionelp> it is really an easy tool to use <lionelp> something like debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /dapper/ http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com <mneisen> ok, thanks a lot! <dan__> where can i find some tools for router for ubuntu server <dan__> ? <dan__> where can i find some tools for router for ubuntu server?? <A-Kaser> as ? <A-Kaser> what do you want to make ? #ubuntu-server 2006-07-08 <J_P> hi all <nictuku> J_P, jo <nictuku> ops <nictuku> hi <J_P> :-) <J_P> hey, I ompile my new kernel using kernel-package, and create one kernel.deb, I install that kernel using dpkg -i new_kernel.deb, but in grub not create initrd, so how I create new initrd.img for my my new kernel ? <RShadow> when you login to ubuntu (CLI) it gives you this disclaimer.. were is it pulling that from? I thought /etc/issue but that is not the case. I need to modify this because when ppl ssh to my box they don't need to know I'm running ubuntu or what kernel I"m running <A-Kaser> motd may be <A-Kaser> #Banner /etc/issue.net <A-Kaser> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config <RShadow> Its not in issue.net either <RShadow> it is in motd however (not very convientinal.. but) so my question would be what updates this? How can I prevent this file being overwritten if I say upgrade my kernel or such? <uniq> /etc/default/rcS <uniq> EDITMOTD=yes <uniq> change that. <RShadow> uniq, thnx <gapz> hello <gapz> the kernel with install-server is optimise for server ? (sorry for my language i am french) <lionelp> gapz: yes, it is <gapz> merci, :-O great :p <lionelp> de rien :) <spike> first time I see a french apologizing for his englih ;) <spike> english* <lionelp> spike: french are not the best for speeking english <gapz> sur ^^ <gapz> sure* <spike> french are not the best for any language besides french :) <lionelp> that's right * spike still remembers Chirac intervention during one of the recent EU parliament meeting <gapz> spike :-D <lionelp> the system should realy be improved for learning languages <lionelp> spike: we are far much better at football ;) <spike> Chirac's*, meetings*, damn, need more sleep and less boze <spike> lionelp: eheh * spike has watched only few half matches and it happened by accident <lionelp> so you are not going to cry tomoroow night :) <spike> actually I'll be fairly happy to see italy losing :) * lionelp too <spike> O_o <spike> there's no way to fly from england to bruxelles with a lowcost company... that's amazing <J_P> hi all #ubuntu-server 2006-07-09 <Jeeves___> Having a problem with mounted drives, <Jeeves___> on a server version <Jeeves___> should I be in general support or here? <Fjodor> Hi. Has anyone had a machine rebooting after grub, thus entering a cycle of reboots? <Fjodor> Anyone? <infamy> is there any plans to make a webbased admin tool? <spike> ther are already loads, why another? <sharms> spike: how about list them for him rather than an unproductive response? <harry666> i have troubles installing 6.06 server with a compaq smartarray controller, install works but after reboot the kernel cannot boot from the smartarray <DJ_Mirage> spike. only good one I know which is open source is webmin, which is bloated <spike> sharms: how about different POV? to me, anybody saying "why not making a webbased admin tool", like any other tool, must have done researches andd know about others and their weaknesses <tsume> a webbased tool also opens up more insecurities <spike> FUD <spike> a webbased tool doesnt open anything is it's well done <spike> or rather, it opens sec probs as any other service <tsume> you're increasing vulnerability level by opening a server(http) and having a third party script run <tsume> right, well webmin is full of holes lie swiss cheese <spike> tou're incresing vulnerrabilities any time you dd anything to your system. sowhat? <spike> yes, it's known, and so what? there are many others besides webmin <tsume> a remote server tool(perhaps based on a RPC service) only opens up a server, less can go wrong. <tsume> spike: the only reason to go web based is convienence <spike> an admin panel hidden behind an htaccess is harmless <spike> and how convenience is a bad thing? <spike> and why convenience necessarily must be unsecure? <tsume> spike: its not a bad thing, it depends on the person <spike> 21:09:34 < tsume> a webbased tool also opens up more insecurities <tsume> I can out admin anyone stright from the command line however <spike> where's the person mentioned there? <spike> there you say that webbased tools adds insecurities <spike> now you say it depends on the person... and so what? a bad admin will make mistakes, a good one less. <spike> nothing to do with webbased applications <tsume> spike: its adding more which could go wrong, and you dono't know a web admin tool does everything correct. <spike> again, anything you add is something that can go wrong, and so what? <spike> and you dont know cause you dont know the app or the app is poorly written. a good app does everything correct <spike> again, FUD <spike> and even generic <spike> it's not at all related to webbased tools, just any app <spike> there's ebox as well, new product, very interesting <tsume> heh. my apps are perfect ;) :P <tsume> j/k :) <sharms> spike: it is quite apparent infamy did not do research <sharms> spike: and since the spirit of ubuntu is helping others, why not recommend a few you have found interesting <spike> sharms: if is indeed a lot of infamy not to do research. spirit of helping others has nothing to do with lazyness <spike> sharms: besides, I alredy did, named 3 already <tsume> hmm <tsume> has anyone started converting their products to use on ubuntu? <tsume> like DirectAdmin, etc.. <tsume> I know some of them are very proprietary to certain distros/OSes. <sharms> I was testing a hostname bug, and was able to confirm it, and now I cant change my hostname back. You guys know another way to use sudo? all I get is: sudo: unable to lookup bobvila via gethostbyname() <tsume> hmm <tsume> sudo works for me even if I didn't set my hostname correctly.. <tsume> hehe, I usually have two sudo bash shells open anyway :) <infamy> sorry was away. and why i was asking if there was plans to make one just for ubuntu server, is that most of them out there lack polish and ease of use.. <infamy> and from what i know of using ubuntu it is all about ease of use <infamy> and sharm left.. i have done my research i use webadmin right now, tried and use linuxconf on another machine. also have a clarkconnect box that has a closed source admin panel that is really good.. <infamy> and i would NEVER put a box with a web admin panel on the net.. i use a vpn to get into my network. i just would rather it not take 10min to add a user to my server and create a share for them #ubuntu-server 2006-07-10 <screeb> Hi :) <screeb> mdz: does TaskSel provide any configuration UI? <screeb> It seams to be limited to an advanced package selector <screeb> (about your post on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191858&page=9 ) <thefish_> re <thefish> anyone know what management solutions exist for a full ubuntu shop? Something like Zenworks? <thefish> sorry to repeat, lost connection :) * spike is working on one <spike> thefish: in short, no, there are bits and pieces that you can use, but nothing accessible through a single interface and correlated <thefish> spike: thanks, im interested in your project... what does it do? what are you making it with? etc? <spike> there are various things like ebox,cfengine/puppet,FAI)pfai)/systemimager one can use <spike> to install/deploy/monitor boxes (for the monitor part see ganglia,nagios,catci,munin) <spike> thefish: it does (will) for zenworks/RHN/HP Openview do <thefish> nice <thefish> what are you building it with? <spike> thefish: atm I'm focusing on box deployment (config and patches included) + monitoring (resources and so on) <thefish> farinuff <thefish> what are you doing the monitoring with? <spike> I'm not really iterested in service config panels as I can use an editor and then the real important part is distribution and versioning <spike> ie, cvs centralized repo + distribution policies done via cfengine/puppet <spike> thefish: well, I'm trying to not reinvent the wheel, even if ppl keep saying it'll be a mess... but hey, it's my time :) <thefish> true <thefish> ive been using zabbix for monitoring, its sweet <thefish> not as many plugins as nagios, but still very cool <spike> yep, I use that too <thefish> :) <spike> mon is nice too <spike> monit* <spike> easier than nagios for small installation, and work on the host so can do things like restarting ssh daemons and the like <spike> stuff that if it depends on connectivity (see nagios) it cant be done <thefish_> k <thefish_> what about updates etc? <spike> local repo where packages get updated from a golden server + script that dump answers and set them on clients before they install the new pkg, so it can be done unattendedly <thefish> kay <spike> I also wanted a Xen instance related to the panel so I could automagically do patch/upgrade testing there <thefish> ye nice plan <spike> anyway, gotta work, later <mdz> screeb: I'm not sure what you mean by a configuration UI. it's an interface for installing sets of packages, and the sets are determined by the package database <trrr> i need help setting up a server <trrr> how do i chroot a user to their home dir when they login via ftp <ivoks> trrr: use vsftpd <ivoks> trrr: there is config option just for that <whaq> trrr, what kind of server <trrr> i cant do it with proftpd? <ivoks> trrr: i guess you can <ivoks> trrr: at least trough PAM <trrr> meh i think i got it <trrr> yeah <trrr> >.> "DefaultRoot ~" <redondos> Hello <redondos> I was wondering how I can change the default locale system-wide. <spike> I was wondering, how is that a server question? <spike> redondos: dpkg-reconfigure locales <redondos> That never prompts me for the default locale. <spike> redondos: and I'll answer my own question too, it's not <redondos> http://pastebin.ca/84287 <spike> redondos: you should use #ubuntu for such questions <spike> not -server <redondos> Oh, I just didn't want a "click here, point there" type of answer. <redondos> Ok, here comes a server question: can you recommend me web a administration package such as cpanel? <spike> redondos: ISPconfig, ebox, GPLhost <redondos> Thanks. <redondos> Which one do you prefer? <redondos> I'll probably test them all, but just wanting opinions. <spike> bah, hard to tell, there are reasons to like some and reasons to like others, it depends what you need... prob I'd pick up ISPconfig <spike> redondos: something else you could have googled out: http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels <spike> that's a comprehensive list, most complete available afaik <redondos> k, thanks. <Forth> hi <redondos> Hello. <Forth> I'm trying to install a vserver kernel, so I have apt-get linux-kernel-source et kernel-vserver-patch on dapper, then used make-kpkg --added_patch=vserver , but vserver patch produce several rejects #ubuntu-server 2006-07-11 <porkpie> Hi ...I have tried to install ubuntu server on 2 compaq dl360's so far and they have both failed when detecting cdrom. Can anyone advise please <toggles> anyone know why `apt-get install mon` fails when it's listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/mon <toggles> ahhh, it's ~x86, i see.. <J_P> hi all <studprog> Hi ... i don't know if this is the right channel - but a request in #ubuntu came out silent.... I'm looking for some help about preseeding an Ubuntu Dapper installation ... <studprog> anybody here gurus in debian-installer preseeding syntax <lionelp> Hi studprog <studprog> hi ;-) <lionelp> never tried myself, but there was a good article on the subject here : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 <studprog> lionelp: yep ... i have noticed it -- but debconf-get-selections --installer came out with the following err :debconf: DbDriver "di_questions": could not open /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat <lionelp> studprog: you should sudo debconf-... <studprog> and just running debconf-get-selections just posts all components set with "select" as option ... <studprog> lionelp: i did <lionelp> strange, it works here... <studprog> the folder /var/log/installer/cdebconf does not exsist ---i think it is removed by the installer afterwards (there was a security issue previously about the fact that the root password was readable in the questions file after installation)) <studprog> lionelp: you run dapper ? - or have you upgraded from e.g. breezy <lionelp> dapper <lionelp> I can check on an upgraded breezy <studprog> ok ...thats odd ... i'm running a newly installed dapper - and there is no cdebconf dir ... only 3 files - partman, syslog and version <lionelp> It also works on an upgraded breezy <lionelp> hum... you are right ! <lionelp> (it was not a stable dapper when it was installed on my desktop) <studprog> ahh... <studprog> so all i have from the installer files is logging by something called Ubiquity * lionelp stupid <studprog> anyways ... what i really would like was to have some command in the preseed file that would let me know that the file actually was read.. <lionelp> studprog: with Ubiquity, be do not run Debian Installer <lionelp> so... <lionelp> :) <studprog> ?? <lionelp> Ubiquity is not debian installer <lionelp> If you want to have preseed from debian installer, i think you should install with the alternate cd (which installs with Debian Installer) <studprog> ahh ... i though Ubiquity was some sort of logger .... so it's an installer ?? .... all pages i've seen state that ubuntu either uses debian-installer syntax or something called Kickstart... <lionelp> yes, it is the new graphical installer run from the desktop-cd <studprog> ok -- but i'm installing via PXE -- and i get the text-based installer ... is that d-i or does ubi* also have a textmode ? <lionelp> d-i <lionelp> ubi is graphical <studprog> ok -- so i should focus on finding the right commands for d-i <lionelp> I am not sure I understand what you mean <studprog> sorry for the delay - a coworker had some questions <studprog> lionelp: well -- i'll go browse the web for some example preseed files (using the d-i syntax) then <screeb> hi ! <screeb> I don't have lot of feadback on the idea of packaging e-smith for ubuntu (a web based server managment interface) <screeb> is there anyone interested in this project here? :) <lionelp> Hi screeb <studprog> hmm ... now it seems that i got past the language selection -- but i've also noticed that my preseed file isn't read ... i use the following parameter to invoke the preseed : preseed/url=http://installserver/preseed -- but from the accesslogs i can see that it's never read during install ;-// <lionelp> e-mith is a Linux distribution, I do not understand your will to package. package what ? <lionelp> I may be missing something :) <screeb> I want to package all administration tools of this distribution and adapt to ubuntu <lionelp> screeb: e-smith is now called SME Server by the way :) <screeb> yes <screeb> dont have much time now <screeb> by! <sharms> anyone here know someone who runs security.ubuntu.com that can let them know http is down? <porkpie> Hi ...I have tried to install ubuntu server on 2 compaq dl360's so far and they have both failed when detecting cdrom. Can anyone advise please <ivoks> hm <porkpie> ivoks:it a bit of a strange problem <ivoks> g3? <porkpie> let me check <porkpie> ivoks:dam I can't tell <ivoks> ok, no prob <ivoks> so, it boots instalation and then doesn't detect CD? <ivoks> cdrom <porkpie> yeah <ivoks> that's SCSI or ATAPI cdrom? <porkpie> scsi <ivoks> ad, i see <ivoks> sec <porkpie> ok <ivoks> support for scsi cdrom is inside module <ivoks> try modprobing sd_mod after boot <ivoks> ctrl+alt+f2 <ivoks> modprobe sd_mod <porkpie> OK ..I will try it now <ivoks> can you do it while on IRC? <porkpie> yeah <ivoks> great <porkpie> ivoks:whats the best version of ubuntu to use ? <ivoks> 6.06 <porkpie> where can I download it from <ivoks> ubuntu.com/download <porkpie> ivoks:is it the alternate iso <ivoks> it's ubuntu-server iso <ivoks> what processor is that? <ivoks> xeon with em64t? <porkpie> ivoksPIII <ivoks> then http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso <porkpie> OK ...I have that one ...I am just burning a new copy <ivoks> why/ <porkpie> ivoks:because I have scratched the other copy <porkpie> nearly done <porkpie> Hi Ries <Ries> never knew there was this channel!!! ppl on #ubuntu didn't tell!!!! <Ries> hey porkpie <porkpie> ivoks:Ries is a big fan of ubuntu <ivoks> ok, but this isn't support channel <porkpie> I know <Ries> ivoks: well... on #ubuntu there are 800 ppl.... 750 are lurking.... and from teh 50 ppl about 1% answers questions about server :) <Ries> I prefere to make this a real ubuntu-server channel :) I had a question yesterday about software raid1, LVM and XFS.... noone could answer :S <Ries> however it works now <porkpie> ivoks:just booting into ubuntu now .....after the kernel has uncompressed....I use ctrl+alt+f2 ? <ivoks> just follow instalation and when it fails, then ctrl+alt+f2 <porkpie> ivoks:Hmm! tried the modprobe from the console but it just return to a #prompt <ivoks> that's ok <ivoks> now run dmesg <ivoks> and check if it detected CDROM <porkpie> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods <ivoks> run lspci <ivoks> and report what SCSI controller you have <porkpie> Hmm! strange no SCSI controller <ivoks> take a better look <ivoks> it wouldn't boot from SCSI cdrom if there's no SCSI controller :) <porkpie> RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53C1510 (rev 02) <nihilocrat> 'lshw | less' might also help <nihilocrat> I find it handy for figuring out what's on my system <ivoks> symbios logic... <ivoks> ok <porkpie> nihilocrat:lshw doesn't work <nihilocrat> Ries: is XFS worth checking out for a LAMP server? <nihilocrat> 'doesn't work' as in it doesn't exist or as in it doesn't tell you anything about the cdrom? <Ries> nihilocrat: I didn't select LAMP from the installation menu... <ivoks> porkpie: try modprobe sym53c8xx <nihilocrat> I didn't either, i'm just saying <ivoks> porkpie: and sym53c416 <nihilocrat> A server whose purpose is a LAMP setup <Ries> nihilocrat: I basicly did the partitioning myself for both drives... setup RAID1 on the drives... on one pertition I used EXT3, on teh other LVM and XFS... but it worked from the installer <Ries> nihilocrat: this is going to be a webserver... postgresql, apache, mysql, and that sort of tools.. <nihilocrat> exactly <nihilocrat> oh, wait a sec, I think I might have gotten acronyms mixed up <nihilocrat> Yeah, I did, I thought you were talking about ZFS <nihilocrat> Sun's newfangled fs <porkpie> ivoks:I have a flashing cursor at the monent <ivoks> porkpie: how about now? <porkpie> No still flashing <ivoks> that means you are back in comandline or it's working? <Ries> nihilocrat: nope... I never heard of ZFS even :) <nihilocrat> ah <nihilocrat> It's relatively(?) new, and is supposed to be a 'next generation' FS <nihilocrat> Which has an extra layer of abstraction from the hardware which is supposed to make it a lot easier for people (particularly sysadmins) to manage <nihilocrat> I forget the details, I read about it two weeks or so ago <ivoks> gtg <porkpie> ivoks:I had to ctrl+c to get back to # <ivoks> bye all <ivoks> porkpie: check with dmesg what happend <ivoks> i got to go now <nihilocrat> bye <Ries> nihilocrat: Ahhh nice.... I need XFS because it suppose to handle large files better then raiser or ext3.... <nihilocrat> I am slowly doing research in more 'enterprise'-oriented server stuff as I'm being handed higher-traffic and higher-uptime services <Ries> nihilocrat: I was doing to same.... hence I picked LVM and XFS <A-Kaser> "higher traffic" aq ? <A-Kaser> as ? <nihilocrat> Well <Ries> currently in a default situation XFS outperforms alexanderlisa@example.com..... 60MB/S for a disk to disk copy.... while EXT3 does about 30-40MB/sec <Ries> LVM can scale nice..... but I never really did work with it on a live server <nihilocrat> We want to move our webserver from Windows Server 2003 to Linux, and we're also running Moodle which is going to go into production in the fall <nihilocrat> Both of these boxes are VMs on a VMWare machine <nihilocrat> I'm the "go to" linux guy after the former "go to" linux guy went off to do higher-paying things <Ries> Ooo.. I am looking into XEN, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ <Ries> for some of my customer needs.... <nihilocrat> I want to use one of the old servers to run Xen and play around with it <nihilocrat> Then maybe put low-traffic stuff on it <Ries> and customers that need ssh...... <nihilocrat> As well as a Free/Open/NetBSD install to see what it's like :P <Ries> for freebsd stuff then porkpie knows about it.... <nihilocrat> really <nihilocrat> that's cool <Ries> yes.... he runs a couple of freebsd servers.... <nihilocrat> I think one of the cooler parts of virtualization is that it lets you run testing servers without requiring more hardware <Ries> that is true <nihilocrat> It makes configuration very modular, so you get the advantages of pizzaboxing without all the waste <A-Kaser> and you can move virtual server from one server to another one <A-Kaser> juste by scp <A-Kaser> so if one of the virtual server become too big <A-Kaser> it's easy to migrate it <Ries> A-Kaser: do you have experiances with xen? <A-Kaser> very few <A-Kaser> more with vserver * Ries is looking up vserver..... <A-Kaser> :) <Ries> A-Kaser: this one, right? http://linux-vserver.org/ <A-Kaser> yes <Ries> I think I have something to play with.... A-Kaser since you know the two .... what would you currently recommend xen or vserver? <A-Kaser> Xen have more features <A-Kaser> and the network layer is more dedicated to the slave server <A-Kaser> but vserver is very light <A-Kaser> so I think it's not vserver vs xen but do you need SSH access or dedicated network layer <Ries> I didn't read upon them well... I am interested in it to run it.... <A-Kaser> in a vserve you cannot change the ip address <A-Kaser> the iptables <A-Kaser> and you cannot change your kernel <Ries> A-Kaser: that means I can't run apache on port 80 on two different vservers, right? But it is a good solution to run postgresql, apache and maby other services in different vservers. Is that a correct conclusion? <A-Kaser> no you can <Ries> (assuming the machine has one interface and no virtual interfaces). <A-Kaser> it's a real virtualazing <A-Kaser> on my workstation I use it to test witch apache1 + php4 <A-Kaser> and another vserver to test apache2 + php5 <A-Kaser> and another to test jboss on port 80 <A-Kaser> each vserver have an simple IP alias <A-Kaser> as you can add with "ip addr add 936-429-9875/32 dev eth0" <A-Kaser> you need to configure the master vserver to be sure if you have an apache on it <Ries> Ahhh yeaaa indeed... so each vserver operates on a alias..... I understand... <A-Kaser> it didn't take all the IP alias to it <Ries> got to go home cool and thanks <A-Kaser> bye :) <A-Kaser> drink time ) <A-Kaser> :) <terje> hi, in fedora I use 'service iptables stop' to disable my firewall. How is this done in ubuntu? <terje> and in general is there a service management command? <uniq> if you install the package named 'debian-helper-scripts' you get the 'service' command. <uniq> among others. <uniq> terje ^^ (just to trigger hiliting) <terje> sweet, thanks uniq <uniq> you're welcome. <Ries> terje:just use shorewall :) #ubuntu-server 2006-07-12 <terje> ok, so what run control script controls iptables I wonder? <terje> root@el-oso:~# grep -i iptables /etc/init.d/* <terje> root@el-oso:~# <terje> I should get a debian book.. <Ries> terje: I don't even know what ubuntu or debian uses out of the box.... <Ries> I always use shorewall because if the simplicty of it's configuration <terje> well, I'm not even trying to configure my FW, I just want to turn it off. <terje> I hear ya w/ shorewall <Ries> what does iptables -L give you? <terje> doesn't look like it's running though (iptables -nL) <terje> yea, nada. <terje> must be something else.. <Ries> then it's turned 'off' <terje> (having a problem with my softphone). <terje> ok, thanks. <Ries> iptables -L gives me tree policies that are accepted.... means no firewalloing <Ries> (INPOUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT chains) <Redman276> good evening all <Redman276> ? for the general <Redman276> is it possible to install ubuntu server on a 2gb SD card ? <blix> Dear Channel; Would you please help me configure apache 1.3 on Dapper? I installed the package but it seems that configuration is not correct. <blix> I installed apache 1.3 package but apache does not start correctly and http://936-429-9875/ do not loads apache index page. any comment? <blix> I'm using Dapper. <fabbione> blix: -> #ubuntu <fabbione> apache1.3 is in universe and not supported <blix> fabbione: what about apache2? <fabbione> apache2 is supported <fabbione> but generally this is not a support channel <blix> fabbione: OK. thanks. I'll ask in #ubuntu. <gapz> 'lo <spike> is anybody aware of problems with linux-image-2.6.15-23-server kernel and vlans? <spike> I have a few boxes running ubuntu+customized kernel running vlans without probs, then this box with dapper + linux-image-2.6.15-23-server which dies from time to time <jsgotangco> hmm we're now on -26 <spike> sendin any packet from the inside or ssh'in from the private ip will resurrect the box <spike> I was dumping traffic and there's nothing abnormal going on, nothing in the logs either, it really seems to just die for no reason <fabbione> spike: that can be due to several reasons <fabbione> not necessarely a kernel bug <spike> fabbione: would you mind sharing your experience? I've spent the last few days chasing this bug. traffic just disappears once passed the fw and never reaches the box <spike> it's like fw -> GB switch -> box, the switch is fine, I've got other boxes plugged in there <fabbione> it can be the firewall it self. I have seen similar stuff in totally different environment <fabbione> i had to keep a ping up from a box because the wireless card was "going to sleep" otherwise <fabbione> and it was not playing vlam <fabbione> (hw issue.. not driver) <spike> the card is an e1000, kernel support for it should be just fine, I have similar boxes running with no probs <fabbione> the fw might have arp problems with the vlan? <fabbione> no arp -> cuts the traffic <fabbione> arp from inside everything goes fine <spike> mmmh, havent checked arp from the fw, I'll look for it, ta <fabbione> when the traffic dies, check the arp <screeb> hi! <screeb> do you know where can I find informations on the resons why webmin packaging was stoped for ubuntu? <screeb> (an old forum discution for exemple) <lupusinfabula> hi there! <lupusinfabula> +nc <lupusinfabula> any of you have ever tried to install ubuntu server on a SCSI contoller AIC79xx? I have an IBM xseries 226 with an IBM ServeRaid <lionelp> screeb: IIRC it was due to too many bugs in webmin <lionelp> webmin was droped out of Debian <A-Kaser> poy poy <gapz> bye ! <screeb> lionelp: I just read my nog now :) <screeb> thanks for your answer <screeb> but would it be more difficult to fix it than rewrite a full web administration interface from scratch <screeb> or just rewrite buggy modules... <lionelp> I do not know webmin enough to anwser <screeb> ok <screeb> thanks :) #ubuntu-server 2006-07-13 <A-Kaser> poypoy <gapz> 'lo <screeb> plop <studprog> hi all ... currently i'm working on making a network based install (booting via PXE) ... i've got a system running that 1) reads a preseed file and 2) installs a ubuntu dapper minimal system ... my problem is that i can't seem to making it install ubuntu-desktop ... <studprog> after base installation, it installs GRUB - and thereafter reboots <fabbione> studprog: and why would you do that, when there is one already? <studprog> fabbione: i have to reply later -- my boss has just called for a admins meeting ... * studprog will be back in about 30 min. <fabbione> you also want to ask in #ubuntu .. this isn't a support channel <Stian> Hey, ok. I've been using Ubuntu 6.06 server for a while, and was just made aware that with a small script and little effort, things like /etc/passwd can be disoplayed directly into the browser. What gives? How can I stop apache from misbehaving? <SanketMedhi> Stian: misbehaving? <nihilocrat> well <Stian> yeah <nihilocrat> you can put an .htaccess file in /etc, but <Stian> it's showing off sensitive information <nihilocrat> You really shouldn't make /etc web-accessible <nihilocrat> is your docroot like / or something? <Stian> exactly <Stian> It's all default <nihilocrat> bizarre <nihilocrat> the default is /var/www/apache-default/ <SanketMedhi> the default is /var/www <nihilocrat> oh well <SanketMedhi> :) <nihilocrat> I was thinkign of the default vhost <Stian> eeeh <nihilocrat> sorry <Stian> yeah <Stian> I am using vhost <Stian> anywhoo <Stian> ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" <Stian> what's up with that?? <nihilocrat> I believe that's where it looks for its config files <nihilocrat> DocumentRoot is the one you should worry about <Stian> I cannot find any other Root or root in apache2.conf <Stian> hmm <Stian> oohhh <Stian> nooohhh <SanketMedhi> Stian: can you please explain what you want to do? <Stian> hang on <SanketMedhi> ok <Stian> I need to have apache not display things like /etc/passwd. Now, I added vhost alias things myself, I guess I should add a document root for the <VirtualHost> <Stian> or? <Stian> I only have VirtualDocumentRoot <Stian> all my sites are "configured" with vhost_alias <SanketMedhi> !apache2 <SanketMedhi> !apache <SanketMedhi> loss <nihilocrat> haha <SanketMedhi> :P <nihilocrat> yes, you should have a DocumentRoot entry in your vhost configs <nihilocrat> I've never used VirtualDocumentRoot and I'm not sure what it does :P <SanketMedhi> Stian: In apache2 your virtual hosts exist in cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default <Stian> hmm, the only config i've made is in apache2.conf :p <SanketMedhi> you don't really have to touch that <Stian> I think I removed the loading of sites-enabled/* as well <SanketMedhi> :O <SanketMedhi> I think you should read the wiki for apache2 <Stian> NameVirtualHost * <Stian> <VirtualHost *> <Stian> UseCanonicalName Off <Stian> DocumentRoot /var/www <Stian> VirtualDocumentRoot /var/www/%0 <Stian> </VirtualHost> <SanketMedhi> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ <SanketMedhi> I dunno if that will work in apache2 <Stian> it will <Stian> it does <SanketMedhi> ok <Stian> at least for vhost_alias, the DocumentRoot thing didn't change anything <Stian> I use this for 8 or so domains/hosts <Stian> okay, I'll check the wiki <SanketMedhi> ok <Stian> and move the vhost to the assigned directory, and so on :) <Stian> thanks for your inputs <SanketMedhi> np I was hardly of any help <Stian> Well, I guess that's what I get for hardly beeing able to explain my problem :P <SanketMedhi> :) <gapz> bye ! #ubuntu-server 2006-07-16 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log * #ubuntu-server [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <gapz> 'lo <A-Kaser> lo #ubuntu-server 2006-07-17 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <gapz> 'lo * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <A-Kaser> poy poy <gapz> hi A-Kaser <Stonekeeper> hi. Does anyone know how to send bind9 startup debug info to syslog? It's not resolving hostnames and I'd like to check it's reading in the dbs correctly. Thanks. <infinity> It should by default be logging to daemon.log anyway. <infinity> Unless you mean you want more verbosity. <infinity> If you want increased verbosity or to run it in the foreground instead of as a daemon, etc, try the manpage... named(8) <Stonekeeper> ah, i was trying bind(8) <Stonekeeper> thanks <Stonekeeper> ok, it seems like it doesn't like my db files in a subdirectory. anyone else have this problem? Or should i just chuck everything at the top level (/etc/bind/) ? <A-Kaser> what is the error ? <Stonekeeper> loading master file master/db.10.7.0: file not found <Stonekeeper> master is in /etc/bind <A-Kaser> named-checkconfig <Stonekeeper> named-checkconf returns nothing <A-Kaser> you use chroot ? <Stonekeeper> no i dont think so <Stonekeeper> ah i see <Stonekeeper> thanks. I was transfering old configs over. I see what the problem is now <A-Kaser> :) <infinity> Stonekeeper: bind's working directory is /var/cache/bind, is it not? So anything not there needs to be specified as an absolute path. <Stonekeeper> infinity: ah right. I've coded in the path, just like the given dbs <Stonekeeper> the only thing that's foxing me is that named is complaining that it doesn't have permissions to the files, yet, bind owns them. Am checking it out right now <Ries> morning/afternoon folks <Stonekeeper> afternoon <Kelerion> hey guys <Kelerion> has anyone here had any experience installing ubuntu-sparc on the new t2000 niagara servers yet? <A-Kaser> no <Ries> Kelerion: I whish :) <Kelerion> can't get the damn thing to install ubuntu-sparc on.. keeps locking up at the partitioner... hmph * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log <fabbione> Kelerion: i do run it on the t2000 <fabbione> Kelerion: and it works just fine... <Kelerion> fabbione: am trying to install it from the ubuntu-sparc iso.. but it's stopping on the partioner.. I see theres some bugs on the bugs.ubuntu.com site... any suggestions? <Ries> Heu guys, I have a question... a client (really true) did a chown on the root of the FS, is there some utility that can restore permission settings on ubuntu server 6? <fabbione> Kelerion: no. works fine here both from iso and netinstall. If you have specific bug numbers please tell them. <Kelerion> yeah.. it's this one... identical problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/50056 <fabbione> Kelerion: never seen anything like that <fabbione> Kelerion: i suggest you boot in expert mode <fabbione> and right before the partitioner just to console <fabbione> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=1 bs=1024 <fabbione> do it for all the disks in system (assuming you can do it) <fabbione> to clean up the partition tables <fabbione> (MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING) <fabbione> and run the partitioner again <Kelerion> ok.. good idea... trying it now <fabbione> Kelerion: be aware that /dev/sdX will destroy the data in the disk <fabbione> in theory you need to clean up all the disks in the system <Kelerion> yeah.. it's alright... theres nothing on there at the moment... have already wiped the drive once to do a gentoo install after I ran into this problem <fabbione> how many drives you have in that box? <Kelerion> 2 <fabbione> because i wonder if the partition table on the other one is making problems <fabbione> i guess you have the solaris one and installing on the other <Kelerion> I did have an idea about taking one out.. in case it was a hardware raid issue.. but wasn't sure if that'd fix things <fabbione> if so instead of wiping solaris <fabbione> raid hw? how did you manage to configure it? <fabbione> actually <fabbione> hw raid hasn't been tested at all <fabbione> because my ALOM doesn't support it <fabbione> and i couldn't find the fw that does that <Kelerion> I haven't done anything with it.. was just an idea <fabbione> ah ok.. it's not configured by default <Kelerion> ahh ok <fabbione> just unplug the solaris disk <fabbione> and wipe the boot sector of the other <Kelerion> I've probably wiped out all partitions on both drives after the amount of messing around I've already done.. lol <Kelerion> ok.. starting the expert install now <Kelerion> ok.. done the language, keyboard and cdrom parts of the install.. <Kelerion> do I want to load the preseed file? <Kelerion> ok.. this sounds like a dumb question even to me.. but wheres the partitioner option on the install menu gone? <Kelerion> *thinks he shouldn't have loaded the preseed file* <Kelerion> ok.. /proc/partitions is empty <Kelerion> must have been something I did before <Kelerion> ok.. will try and walk through the expert mode.. see what happens now... if still nothing.. will pull one of the drives <fabbione> you need to get to load extra installer modules before you can see the disks <Kelerion> ahh <fabbione> as i said you
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