#ubuntu-ie 2011-07-02 <Harrier_II> whats the latest version <moylan> what's the latest version of what? <jacekowski> mornign people #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-04 <tdr112> afternoon all <airurando> evening all #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-05 <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> tdr112: ye met sladen <czajkowski> he's cool and worked on the font <tdr112> hello cztab <czajkowski> brat behave <tdr112> ah i can only say it while you are not in ireland <czajkowski> but i am in ireland :) <tdr112> ok , ubuntu-ie is now a cztab free zone <tdr112> well, welcome back czajkowski <tdr112> we have a nice bit of sun for you today <czajkowski> lets hope it stays there tomorrrow raining down here <ebel> "cztab is dead, long live cztab" <czajkowski> i'll deal with ye tomorrow <czajkowski> ebel: you not around tomorrow <ebel> Yeah will be <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1031/detail/ <ebel> :P <ebel> I was *just* thinking "Oh I'll bet there's a loco meeting on LD" :P <ebel> and was just on that page :) <ebel> ha! ha i tells you <ebel> *registered* <czajkowski> ebel: no +1 <ebel> I wonder how many people you can claim to bring... <czajkowski> up to 5 i think... <ebel> ha! <czajkowski> as many as you like actually <czajkowski> blank field <ebel> :P <czajkowski> such a cheeky fecker <ebel> It's django, so you can force numbers & min and max. <slashtom> ebel bringing "one" * slashtom ! <ebel> TBH I'm broadly against software trying to ban things like this. The software should allow a user to do that. Social norms and relations should be in force there. :() <ebel> * :) <ebel> slashtom: you're worth at least 25k people <slashtom> :P <slashtom> can you add a note against your 25,000 people, that they will be arriving based at a time based on Irish Standard Time <ebel> that page says IST <mhall119> ebel: why are you entering 250000 guests in the loco-directory? <ebel> mhall119: to see how high I could go. <ebel> I got 31Â½k actually <ebel> curiousity :) <mhall119> well you're flooding our inboxes with error messages :( <ebel> ah <czajkowski> ebel: gofile a bug now <mhall119> can you file a bug saying that it should give a friendly error message please? <ebel> that might be when I was binary searching for the upper bound <czajkowski> ebel: you are a bloody geek <mhall119> lol <czajkowski> you shall get a wallop tomorrow <czajkowski> file the bug now <mhall119> I'd expect this kind of thing from paultag... <czajkowski> that'll learn yoyu <czajkowski> right grabbing a shower <czajkowski> i shall expect the bug to be logged by the time i get back <czajkowski> then i can assign it to paultag <czajkowski> :p * ebel files bug about threats of violence from loco council! <mhall119> that's a feature <ebel> help help my prince, i am being wronged! <ebel> hahahaa <czajkowski> mhall119: +1 <czajkowski> i'm needed <mhall119> in fact, threats of violence is the most requested feature of the LC <czajkowski> i keep lc and ld from killing one another <ebel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/806005 <lubotu3> Ubuntu bug 806005 in LoCo Team Directory "Error (as opposed to validation error) given if person enters more than 32,000 for 'number of guests'" [Undecided,New] <czajkowski> ebel: well done on filling our inboxes :p <ebel> like you've never found bugs and broken things! :P <czajkowski> yeah i just want getting the error bugs and the lads were wonder what kinda event was going ong <czajkowski> :) <czajkowski> nicely spotted <ebel> they should know ubuntu-ie is a popular loco <tdr112> ebel: yep 31k at our events <czajkowski> :) <mokmeister> hi all <mokmeister> anybody using 10.04 and firefox 5? <moylan> 11.04 here, sorry. <mokmeister> I've noticed that if I leave firefox on, memory usage just keeps going up until the whole os gets completely unresponsive <moylan> i have a netbook in 1gb running xubuntu 11.04. i have firefox opened for days at a time with dozens of tabs + chrome + opera and while it can get slow once i close tabs it's fine. <mokmeister> I was wondering if it was part of the whole memory leak thing with X (that I thought was sorted) or if it was something else. <moylan> usually flash based tabs are the problem <mokmeister> If I leave firefox on for more than a day, it takes over 1GB RAM!!!! (I have 2GB altogether on my desktop) <moylan> and these days i usually use chrome for flash based nonsense. <mokmeister> that's what I was thinking too, but I left firefox open with just gmail, hotmail and yahoo mail open and it was still the same <mokmeister> tbh I haven't tried it with just , say a google page left open <moylan> well when flash crashes with an error message the gmail tab goes south too <mokmeister> gmail uses flash? <moylan> it looks like it. can't be sure but it does crash when flash crashes. <mokmeister> hmmm. Interesting <moylan> http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/11050/does-gmail-use-flash <mokmeister> I'm using chromium now myself at the mo, and I think the same thing is happening. Memory usage seems to be climbing. Not as dramatically as ff. started at 55MB, now 69MB. <mokmeister> thanks <moylan> when in doubt blame flash. :-) <mokmeister> lol! Indeed! <moylan> and if google can't make flash work then who can? <mokmeister> that was an interesting link <moylan> going to ubuntu hour in dublin tomorrow? <mokmeister> nope <mokmeister> down in clare <mokmeister> will be in Limerick and Cork for most of tomorrow <mokmeister> I keep missing the ubuntu hour in Limerick. <mokmeister> I was at the first one or two <mokmeister> I just keep forgetting to go then! <mokmeister> hmmm, after a prelimary investigation, looks like it could be flash alright. Chromium memory now 57MB & 56MB, ff djennings@example.org MB, with only your link open. <mokmeister> Bummer, and I was really getting into those app tabs too! <moylan> local apps are always better. but web apps are convenient. you just have to find the balance. <airurando> evening all #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-06 <czajkowski> ebel: slashtom tdr112 whats the weather like up there today <ebel> tis alright <slashtom> sunny, warm <ebel> smidge cloudy <slashtom> a few clouds <ebel> warm <slashtom> might rain later <ebel> fans are going like mad in the office here. <slashtom> our air-con is on <ebel> apparently it was 27â this morning (though our office gets v. warm) <ebel> (27â in our room that is) <slashtom> my widget says it's 13 outside <tdr112> no sign of rain <czajkowski> lashing rain here <ebel> czajkowski: I swear we've had good weather the last few days here in the big smoke. If you bring the rain..........!!!! <ebel> LO <ebel> :P <slashtom> limerick is being washed away? <slashtom> what time is the ubuntu hour? <tdr112> starts at 6 <tdr112> i will be a bit late <tdr112> 6.20 or so <czajkowski> aloha <czajkowski> i'm here <czajkowski> that is all thayt matter <czajkowski> as is moylan <tdr112> ok i will be down to you as as i can <czajkowski> coolio <airurando> Hi all. <airurando> Hope UH Dublin goes well. <tdr112> hey airurando <airurando> Evening tdr112 <tdr112> ok leaving work now should be there soon #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-07 <czajkowski> aloha <slashtom> hey, how are you? <czajkowski> knackered <czajkowski> good to see folks yesterday though <airurando> evening all <moylan> hi airurando <airurando> hey moylan <airurando> how was UHD? <moylan> you missed a great night last night. but don't worry i saw tons of pics been taken. they'll appear i reckon in the next few days. <airurando> cool <moylan> hows the hols going? <airurando> not hols as such <moylan> a break? <airurando> sister in laws wedding last sat. * airurando was a groomsman <moylan> ah a family do. can be great, can be ominous. <airurando> they down to Tralee to do a few jobs on our house there getting it fit for letting <airurando> the wedding was great <airurando> Jackie was one of the bridesmaids <moylan> it can be great to meet with family that you don't see from one year to the next. <airurando> matron of honour actually :) <moylan> hope you passed out a few ubuntu cds! :-D <airurando> I was delighted it went well for the couple <airurando> not quite <moylan> good weather? <airurando> great weather in Cork <SCD101> lol <airurando> regarding the CDs though <airurando> might be in the process of getting my sisters household over. <airurando> SCD101 sur the weather is always great in Cork <moylan> it's always good to get somebody off windows. especially if you were supporting them when they were using windows! <SCD101> As it is in Dublin :P <airurando> SCD101 the only affiliation I have with Cork is that my fabilous wife is from the fine city and county. <SCD101> As it should be ;) <SCD101> Remove the population and slowly convert them <moylan> my family moved from cork to dun laoghaire around 1840s. we're still considered blowins in dun laoghaire * airurando was born in the combe * SCD101 was also <airurando> *coombe <airurando> my grandparents retired to Glasnevin <airurando> on my fathers side <airurando> moylan: will you blog about UHD? <moylan> i'll try and put together a few lines. if i don't sleep tonight i'll start work on it. <airurando> good stuff <airurando> It was a shame I could not get there <moylan> the _one_ time you are not there! <airurando> indeed :( <moylan> not only was it because czajkowski was over but i reckon that there hadn't been one for a few months may have helped. <airurando> yeah <airurando> how many were there? <moylan> 7-8 <moylan> actually 9 <airurando> nice <moylan> i also wonder if doing it on a wednesday helped <airurando> we always had it on a wednesday <airurando> last wednesday of the month <moylan> whoops. sorry my brain is a bit wonky at the mo <airurando> still waiting on the first sat/sun one in a cafe/library. * moylan mumbles embassingly <airurando> lol <airurando> hope you pick a saturday that I'm not working <moylan> have to pick a saturday that doesn't clash with my rpg group. it's been moved around at the mo. <airurando> excuse the ignorance <airurando> whats rpg? <moylan> role playing game. in this an old fashioned dice and figures game with thick thick books. <moylan> this case an #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-08 <airurando> evening #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-12 <tdr112> afternoon all <czajkowski> peeka boo <czajkowski> if someone sees mike on later <czajkowski> tell him to ping me with the pwd for the @ubuntuie pixie ac so I can upload the pics <Featurefreak> hmm, having horrible laggy performance in vlc on a very high end laptop.. fglrx drivers.. <czajkowski> you need to update to tne newest VLC if you are on natty <Featurefreak> czajkowski, oh? is there a repo? or i have to pull a special package? <czajkowski> in the software add the natty upgrades <czajkowski> should be running vlc 1.somethintg 2 <Featurefreak> i'm on 1.1.9 <czajkowski> thats the right version <czajkowski> if there are any other issues report the bug <czajkowski> and then join #ubuntu-bug or #ubutnu to help work through it #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-14 <tdr112> morning <airurando> morning all <airurando> has anyone written on is anyone going to write a blog post about the last UH Dublin? <airurando> evening all <tdr112> evening all #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-15 <czajkowski> pics from july meet up uploaded #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-17 <daxroc> Evening <airurando> anyone about? <moylan> hi <airurando> hi moylan <airurando> hope you can help me <moylan> go ahead <airurando> I've taken my sisters Windows desktop and installed ubuntu on it <moylan> all went well fingers crossed <airurando> before I did the install on the corrupt windows PC I took a copy of all data on to a 1TB external hardrive <airurando> I then installed Ubuntu onto the PC <moylan> always a good start <airurando> The ext HD can not longer be recognised by any PC <moylan> have you tried plugging the drive into a different system? <airurando> I left it hooked up to the desktop during reinstall <airurando> yip <airurando> both windows and ubuntu <moylan> doesn't bode well <airurando> fdisk sees it <moylan> does fdisk say it has partitions? <airurando> outupt for fdish at <airurando> http://paste.ubuntu.com/646061/ <airurando> actual command used sudo fdisk -l <moylan> looks like it is still a huge ntfs partition there. <moylan> have you tried starting the system without the drive plugged in and then plugging it in? <airurando> that is what I was hoping <airurando> yip <moylan> did the windows system that you plugged it in to give a message of any sort? <airurando> nope <moylan> did you look at disk manager in windows? it shows partitions <airurando> nope <airurando> how do i do that? <moylan> trying to remember the location. been a while :-) <moylan> control panel <airurando> will take me some time <airurando> need to close down the new Ubuntu Desktop and restart the old windows desktop <moylan> that will give me a minute or two. winxp or win7 <airurando> win vista....... sorry <moylan> hey, i'm not the one who has to look at it! :-) <airurando> first smile I've had in over 2 hours :) <airurando> booting into vista machine <moylan> say when <airurando> shouldn't take more than 5 mins :) <moylan> that's fast for vista! <airurando> in now <airurando> in control panel# <moylan> control panel and then system <airurando> no disok <airurando> ok <moylan> should be a device manager. seems to be different in vista according to what i'm reading online <airurando> have under Disk drives a WD 10EAVS External USB Device <airurando> believe this is the ext drive <airurando> says the device is working properly <moylan> ah it is really different in vista http://www.vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista <moylan> this should show the drive and what partitions are currently on it <moylan> and maybe allow you to change the drive letter to something that you can see <moylan> any of that link making sense? <airurando> oh god <airurando> Disk 5 931.51 GB unallocated <moylan> what does it say/show? <airurando> what have I done? <moylan> now it can get complicated. not over by a long shot. <airurando> Disk 0 is C drive <airurando> Disk 1 nothing <moylan> it is possible to unformat a drive. <moylan> haven't done it in over 10 years. <airurando> Disk 2 nothing <airurando> Disk 3 nothing <airurando> Disk 4 nothing <airurando> Disk 5 Unallocated <moylan> wouldn't want to relearn on a disk with data. let me have a look and see if there is a quick solution <airurando> Oh god I must have done something stupid during the install <moylan> i suspect that the ubuntu default partitioning system wiped it for swap space as it was plugged in. i've done much much worse. like explode a drive with shrapnel worse! <moylan> i'd definitely email the ilug list with the current situation in case there is somebody who has done this recently <airurando> within the last 3 hours... <airurando> it the data lost <airurando> why oh why did I not unplug it? <moylan> i've made the same mistake. everybody does. you should see the steps i do now before an install. people think i'm paranoid. i tell them i'm not paranoid enough <moylan> i usually only start when i have at least 2 backups, preferably 3 <airurando> last throw of the dice <moylan> i reckon the data is still on the disk but that it needs to be unformatted <airurando> is it possible to 'reallocate' without formatting <airurando> go throught the install process and see if it is recognised <moylan> software that will restore not just the partitions that were on it but the FAT (file allocation table) that points to the files. all going well if possible you'll get back 90%+ of files. <airurando> sounds complicated <airurando> ohhhhhh <airurando> what an I to do? * airurando is finding it hard to stick to the CoC here!!! <moylan> as i said it's been over 10 years since i needed such a technology. not even sure if new partitions can do this. an email to ilug would get an answer in a day i reckon. i'm going to check their email archives as i reckon somebody already has done this <moylan> swear all you like i not going to be hurt by words <moylan> not good:http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/node/89 <moylan> i can find lots of paid software that claims to unformat ntfs drives. still looking for free software <airurando> oh dear <airurando> what a screw up I've done!!! <moylan> again i say that it is not over yet. what is on the drive? <airurando> ah I've just gone into gparted and added a ntfs partition <airurando> nothing present <airurando> I am an idiot <airurando> on the drive pics and vids for me backed up I believe <airurando> but docs and data from my sisters somputer <airurando> not backer up <moylan> the more you use the drive the less you can unformat it <airurando> as that was the back up <airurando> I'm not using it anymore as I haven't got a clue <airurando> I'm gutted for my sister and her kids :( <airurando> I really can't believe I did this <airurando> I have to hit the hay as I am in for work at 7 am tomorrow. <airurando> moylan: sincere thanks for the info provided here <moylan> if you put that drive aside and don't use it, it may be possible to recover the info. <airurando> I hold out slim hope that I may get some of the info back <moylan> i'd say about 30-40% chance myself <airurando> It's unplugged <airurando> :( <airurando> I'll chat to you tomorrow night moylan <airurando> sincere thanks again <moylan> take care airurando <airurando> I am soooo stupid :( <moylan> no you are not!! * airurando feels like you know what :( <moylan> i did this for a living and i can tell you of a thousand worse mistakes! <airurando> take care #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-18 <czajkowski> morning <moylan> all well in blighty? <czajkowski> well it's not raining today <czajkowski> and I need to write 2 presentations this week for open week <moylan> run outside! it's summer! :-) <czajkowski> what happened with mike last night <moylan> he was setting up his sisters laptop with ubuntu. he backed up everything onto an external usb drive. but he left the drive plugged in while installing ubuntu and i think the install wiped the drive. <moylan> ubuntu setup partitioning system can be djennings@example.org. <czajkowski> :/ <czajkowski> feck <moylan> it's a mistake everybody makes at some point. <moylan> never lost data? <czajkowski> oh yeah <czajkowski> my external HD with stuff backed on it was corrupt <moylan> the thing is about 12 years ago i did the exact same thing and wiped my only backup during an install. i finally tracked the company who made the software that unformatted the drive and got me back the data but they sold out to symantec back in 2004 or so. so no more unformat software from them. <moylan> not sure it is possible with ntfs either because of the way the fat works on that fs. <moylan> haven't given up though. still checking online. <czajkowski> cool * moylan hates ntfs <czajkowski> http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_18 <czajkowski> http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_11 <czajkowski> :D <moylan> add those to your cv! <czajkowski> yeah think <moylan> and your geeknic was just mentioned on linux outlaws. <czajkowski> nods <czajkowski> :D <czajkowski> being kept rather busy #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-19 <infoturtle> mornin all <infoturtle> are we not having an IRC meeting tomorrow? <moylan> hi airurando <airurando> hey moylan <moylan> still looking for the software. haven't given up on you. <airurando> moylan I truly appreciate it <moylan> no worries. this sort of things happens to all of us. i like to be prepared for when it next happens to me <airurando> having you to talk to the other night to first figure out what I'd done and then to be told of the the slim chance of recovery meant alot <moylan> i found the company who supplied the software when it happened to me about 12 years ago. they sold out to symantec in 2004 or thereabouts. and they killed it off. so i have to find someone else i trust. <airurando> a friend at work recommended http://www.easeus.com/ <airurando> said he used it once and it saved him <airurando> what do you think <moylan> that looks like the real deal. most searches i found was bogus software. that looks ok. proper unformat option which is what is needed to try and rescue your data. <moylan> also it specifically mentions vista which did strange things to ntfs <moylan> i'd say give it a shot <airurando> will I start with the downloadable demo? <moylan> can't hurt. just make sure it doesn't write to the external usb drive <airurando> will do <airurando> I'm knackered after work so I'll give it a go tomorrow. <moylan> if you want me to hang around that's cool or if you want to do it some other time let me know as i'm keen to hear if it works <airurando> I'll let you know how I get on <airurando> you going to be at the meeting tomorrow night? <moylan> whch meeting? <airurando> monthly IRC <moylan> irc should be ok with me. <airurando> coolio <moylan> playing with a samsung galaxy tab 7 at the mo. great fun! <airurando> nice <moylan> for me at least better than the ipad. not perfect though. #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-20 <tdr112> evening <airurando> howdy <ebel> yo <moylan> hi <airurando> closing the geeknic date picking poll now <tdr112> which date <airurando> hi moylan. <moylan> hey airurando <tdr112> was picked <airurando> 14th sunday <airurando> moylan I didn't get to that today. hope to tomorrow <moylan> airurando: no worries. i should be in irc anyway if you want * ebel is upgrading to natty <airurando> moylan: thanks :) <airurando> ebel right now? <ebel> it's downloading... <ebel> started a while ago <airurando> do you want me to chair or will you do it? <airurando> or does anyone else want to chair? <ebel> prob best if you chair... <airurando> OK <airurando> we'll start <airurando> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:07. The chair is airurando. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <airurando> Good evening everyone and thanks for attending <airurando> If you are here for the monthly meeting please indicate so by typing âPRESENTâ <airurando> PRESENT <infoturtle> PRESENT <moylan> PRESENT <ebel> PRESENT <airurando> The wiki page for this meeting is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20 <tdr112> PRESENT <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20 <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20 <airurando> on to the agenda items <airurando> [TOPIC] Review of previous action items <MootBot> New Topic: Review of previous action items <airurando> During the June meeting there was one task actioned. <airurando> czajkowski to ask BK <airurando> more specifically <airurando> czajkowski to ask Blacknight to extend their sponsored hosting offer for our website * ebel must apologise <airurando> as far as I am aware this was done and we got a positive response from BK <ebel> i haven't looked into the BK and told czajkowski what she needs <ebel> BK have sponsored another year of hosting for us <tdr112> good stuff <airurando> yes indeed thanks to BK <airurando> ebel: what needs to be done? <ebel> i need to tell czajkowski who wil tell canonical sysadmins the ip address of the bk hosting <ebel> so they can change www.ubuntu-ie.org to point to thr bk hosting <airurando> is everything set up on the BK side? <ebel> the people redoing our hosting (can't remember names) said it's easier if the real domains pointed over <ebel> as of last meeting, bk hosting wasn't configured yet <airurando> I don't understand the detail <airurando> id we point from one to the next and the next isn't ready won't we have downtime? <ebel> yes there would be downtimes <airurando> hmm <airurando> what to do? <ebel> the people volunteering said it would be ~ weekend <ebel> it only occured to me afterwards about downtime <ebel> (after irc meeting) <czajkowski> ebel: yes just mail me and I'll file the RT <airurando> is it to hard to get the whole thing set up on BK and then get canonical to do the forwarding thing? <czajkowski> I dont know the bk side of things <ebel> yes, you could put the ip address in your /etc/hosts <czajkowski> the Canonical side is an email and can take a few days or hours depending on how busy they are <ebel> which lets you 'pretend' that www.ubuntu-ie.org is at BK for just your machine, everyone else sees the old one <airurando> ebel: can you define the steps to be taken from this point to effect a smooth transition. * ebel can't remember if he mentioned this at the last irc meeting * airurando can't either <ebel> someone check logs for who offered to do the hosting <ebel> tis a bit silly talking about it without them * airurando doesn't understand anyway <airurando> infoturtle wern't you and thethomaseffect involved? <infoturtle> I was ages ago but there has been work since without me and I'm unsure where things are at <airurando> at a high level (keep it simple for me please...) <airurando> should the webmasters not get thinks fully set up on BK hosting first? <airurando> *things <ebel> cost benefit trade offs <airurando> oh crikey I don't even understand that.... <ebel> also abilities. things that make things easier for one party can make things harder for others <airurando> how can we move this forward? <ebel> who's doing the web hosting? <airurando> blacknight <airurando> isn't that right? <ebel> and no matter what i do need to tell czajkowski details for our hosting <ebel> yes, BK are doing hosting. i meant who in ubuntu-ie is our web maintainer? who's setting it up?P <airurando> thethomaseffect? <infoturtle> it was me and thethomaseffect but I think he's done more on it since I last helped, which was months ago <airurando> shall we shelve it? <airurando> seems a bit like rock and hard place to me. <ebel> no point in you & me deciding what someone else will do, that person needs to be here to talk about it <airurando> cool <airurando> shelved * ebel suggests waiting till we can talk to web hoster * ebel should refresh his memory from minutes] <airurando> moving on * ebel is very unprepared <airurando> [TOPIC] Oneiric Ocelot Ubuntu Global Jam <MootBot> New Topic: Oneiric Ocelot Ubuntu Global Jam <airurando> I raised this item. <tdr112> when is it <airurando> Ubuntu Global Jam for Oneiric Ocelot takes place from 2nd to 4th of September. <airurando> I just thought we should start planning for it now. <airurando> Details of this Global event can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam <airurando> It would be great to keep both Dublin and Limerick up and running and if possible even add to them. <airurando> I believe the more we participate in these Jams the more productive we will become during them. <airurando> Thoughts anyone? <infoturtle> agreed <infoturtle> I love them despite not helping much <infoturtle> more that come the better <airurando> infoturtle will you lead Limerick again? <ebel> ++ <Carles-091labs> Sorry new... I'll ask around 091labs for any interest <Carles-091labs> I mean I'm new here <airurando> Carles-091labs welcome! <infoturtle> sure, I can see who I can talk to, UL is out till sept 5th AFAIK so I duno how I can do this <airurando> It would be great if something was set up for Galway * airurando loves Galway <airurando> went to College there in the 80s and 90s <ebel> Carles-091labs: welcome! no apology needed. anything we can do to help, jsut ask <Carles-091labs> lots of our members use Ubuntu as our main OS. Hopefully will get some interest <airurando> Carles-091labs that is great <moylan> what are the numbers at the current 2 locations at the last jam. by having more locations are we not lessening the numbers that turn up at those locations? <airurando> have a look at the wiki page detailed above <tdr112> i will ask if tog will host the dublin one again or we can try some where new <airurando> and as ebel said let us know if we can be of any help <Carles-091labs> having a look at the wiki as we speak <infoturtle> moylan: there were 5 at the limerick one, none of us would have made it to Dublin for it <airurando> tdr112 tog would be great <czajkowski> infoturtle: 5 is better than none <airurando> moylan limerick of Galway folk are less likely to attend Dublin anyway <czajkowski> and its nice to have an alternative venue <ebel> 5 is a decent umber <ebel> think we had 3 or 4 in dub :P <moylan> no arguements there but i worry that if there is a galway one there will be less than 5 at limerick <infoturtle> czajkowski of course, thus why multi location is a good idea <airurando> I think it would be great to get better communication streams up between locations <Carles-091labs> what would be the best way to communicate <infoturtle> moylan: all the ones at the limerick one were from Limerick <infoturtle> Don't think they'll go to Galway for one <moylan> fair enough! i sit corrected :-) <airurando> Carles-091labs at the mo all we have is IRC <airurando> we toyed with the idea of ebel on Ustream last time <infoturtle> I don't mean to belittle, I just can't track to Dublin for them and like the set up <Carles-091labs> would be nice to have some video streaming on the day... ustream stream perhaps? <czajkowski> it worked well the last day 1 day face to face <czajkowski> and if we want to do more <czajkowski> we can all do stuff via irc <czajkowski> at the end of the day we're all on irc to help one another over the day <airurando> and as always <airurando> we can build on things global Jam to global Jam <tdr112> i can set up a ustream for the day or skype <infoturtle> that would be great <airurando> I think it would be brilliant to get the three location up and running :) <tdr112> so are thinking one day in person and one day one irc again <airurando> Carles-091labs can I action you to investigate the possibility of hosting one in Galway <airurando> no pressure <Carles-091labs> hosting what exacly? <tdr112> a bug jam <airurando> Carles-091labs aye a Ubuntu Global Jam <airurando> hosting/holding/having one. <Carles-091labs> I'm going to try to get people interestd <tdr112> a one day event , one go from about 10 am until about 5 or 6 pm <airurando> Carles-091labs cool <Carles-091labs> but it may be just myself :P <airurando> could you report back at next months meeting? <Carles-091labs> ok <tdr112> Carles-091labs: no worrys <airurando> thanks <airurando> infoturtle: can I action you with leading limerick? <airurando> tdr112: can I action you with asking TOG? <Carles-091labs> Going need a bit on the day... never actually tackle any bug fixing before... <tdr112> yes <infoturtle> yep <infoturtle> I'll see who I can talk to in the colleage about it <airurando> Carles-091labs It really doesn't matter what's achieved <airurando> have fun and learn <ebel> great way to meet people face to face <Carles-091labs> cool... perhaps a tiny bug fixing for starters <tdr112> infoturtle: or milklabs <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick. <MootBot> ACTION received: infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick. <infoturtle> tdr112: true, I'll ask around <airurando> [ACTION] tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <MootBot> ACTION received: tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin <Carles-091labs> in the wiki says from the 2 to the 4... Do we have a more exact date for this? <airurando> what ever day suits <infoturtle> Sat the 3rd? <infoturtle> ??? <airurando> usually we hold Jams on a Sat <Carles-091labs> Sat it is then <airurando> infoturtle I agree <tdr112> we find a in person is better for the sat <tdr112> and online on sat <airurando> face to face on Sat <tdr112> *sun <airurando> online Sunday? <airurando> cool. <infoturtle> ok, so the 4th for Limerick <infoturtle> just to make sure <airurando> infoturtle 3rd <tdr112> 3rd <infoturtle> ah <infoturtle> so all of em on the 3rd <airurando> not obligatory but it might be best <tdr112> 3rd in person <tdr112> and online on the 4th <infoturtle> cool <airurando> cool <airurando> anything else on this <Carles-091labs> sounds good to me <airurando> cool <airurando> moving on so <airurando> [TOPIC] August Geeknic <MootBot> New Topic: August Geeknic <airurando> The poll has been closed and the results are in. <airurando> The poll can be viewed at http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8 <airurando> [LINK] http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8 <MootBot> LINK received: http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8 <airurando> Sunday the 14th of August had the most votes at 4. <Carles-091labs> can anybody care to explain what is Geeknic, please <airurando> a picnic for geeks <Carles-091labs> lol brilliant <airurando> there is a website somewhere <airurando> http://geeknic.org/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://geeknic.org/ <Carles-091labs> thanks <airurando> It would be great to have one of these in Galway also sometime :) <airurando> Can the Dublin centric guys pick a location for this? <Carles-091labs> we had a bbq the other day... would love a geeknic too <airurando> Carles-091labs these are not ubuntu specific <tdr112> airurando: i am not sure if i can make this one so i better not pick it <moylan70> a poll for location perhaps? <airurando> moylan will you do it? <infoturtle> I can't make it either <airurando> I don't know enough about Dublin. <airurando> tdr112 no bother <airurando> infoturtle no bother <airurando> we should have a location picked by the start of the month. <airurando> ebel any views? <ebel> Carles-091labs: geeknics are also attempted to get non-pub meet ups <airurando> moylan70 will you put up the poll? <ebel> location... dunno, somewhere outside, greesnspaces <ebel> loads of parks in dublin.... suppose... <airurando> what markets run on Sunday? <ebel> oh yeah <airurando> we do need a location <airurando> anyone? <moylan> i'll try and put up a poll. i'll throw the link out in the email list <Carles-091labs> leaving soon... How do you comunicate on a regular basis ??? mainling list ? <airurando> thanks moylan <airurando> Carles-091labs mailing list and here on IRC <airurando> are you on the mailing list? <infoturtle> Carles-091labs <Carles-091labs> ok. I send a request to join the mailing list earlier <infoturtle> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ie <ebel> Carles-091labs: mailing lsit or this channel <infoturtle> lol, link fail <Carles-091labs> ok.. I'll be in touch <airurando> cool <infoturtle> nice to meet you Carles-091labs <airurando> moylan we can only give the pool till the first of the month <airurando> *poll <moylan> airurando: understood <airurando> great and thanks <airurando> [ACTION] moylan to generate a doodle poll to decide on the location for the August geeknic <MootBot> ACTION received: moylan to generate a doodle poll to decide on the location for the August geeknic <airurando> anything else on this <infoturtle> nope <airurando> moylan locations where food can be purchased would be good <airurando> ok <airurando> moving on <airurando> [TOPIC] Any other business <MootBot> New Topic: Any other business <moylan> i was going to list the last few places were geeknics were held, stephens green, peoples park, phoenix park. etc and hopefully someone will email other suggestions. <tdr112> nope <infoturtle> I've one bit that not realy important <airurando> shoot infoturtle <airurando> moylan sounds good <infoturtle> I've 3/4 of the stack of CD's airurando gave me, of 11.04 live CD's, if anyone needs any I'll be happy to post them if yer short <infoturtle> I missed the geeknic cause of a death so never got to pass em out * airurando also has 30 or so CDs <airurando> infoturtle I brought some along <airurando> ok <airurando> just want to acknowledge our reapproval <airurando> [TOPIC] The successful reapproval effort of our loCo Team <MootBot> New Topic: The successful reapproval effort of our loCo Team <airurando> It was great to see that our efforts in terms of hosting events and other matters were well received by the LoCo Council. <airurando> Onwards and Upwards <airurando> :) <airurando> still smiling.... <airurando> [TOPIC] Date for next meeting <MootBot> New Topic: Date for next meeting <airurando> The third Wednesday in August will fall on the 17th of the month. <airurando> Any objections to that being the date for the next meeting? <infoturtle> nope, I'm down with that <moylan> works for me <airurando> [AGREED] The monthly teamIRC meeting for August will take place on 17 Aug 11. <MootBot> AGREED received: The monthly teamIRC meeting for August will take place on 17 Aug 11. <airurando> does anyone have anything else? <airurando> going once <airurando> going twice <infoturtle> a buck! <airurando> ha ha <airurando> gone <infoturtle> woo hoo, I win! <airurando> thanks all for attending and participating. <airurando> endmeeting <airurando> whoops <airurando> #endmeeting <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:16. <airurando> infoturtle what about the hackerspace and the learning hub <airurando> CD distribution that is <infoturtle> oh <infoturtle> good idea <infoturtle> I did the hackspace alright <infoturtle> left about 15 in total of the 3 types <airurando> there is always the next Global Jam also and the start of the academic year <infoturtle> ya, I hauld some to that too <infoturtle> *I'll <Carles-091labs> will the meeting be at 8pm? <infoturtle> I must fly, got poker to play <infoturtle> c y'all again <Carles-091labs> talking about the one in August 17. Are they always at the same time? <Carles-091labs> 8pm? <moylan> Carles-091labs: yes <airurando> yip <airurando> Carles-091labs unless someone objects <Carles-091labs> ok, thanks... (adding to calendar) <airurando> it will always be at 8pm on the third Wednesday on each month <Carles-091labs> ok. good to know <airurando> *of each month <airurando> no problem and thanks for joining in! <Carles-091labs> no problem <airurando> Carles-091labs we also microblog on identi.ca and twitter <airurando> ubuntuie is the account on both <airurando> infoturtle maintains the ubuntu-ie presence on facebook. <Carles-091labs> that's why i joined today... somebody retweeted about this <airurando> great <airurando> delighted the tweets get through <Carles-091labs> i think it was jeffrey <airurando> to people that want to hear :) <airurando> aye he and angryearthling (aka moylan) tweeted this * airurando changed the topic of #ubuntu-ie to: Welcome to Ubuntu Ireland! || http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam || This channel is logged - logs at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ || Next IRC Meeting: 17th of August 2011 @ 8pm || Ubuntu Hour Limerick last Thursday of every month, Absolute Hotel || Stay tuned for details of the next Ubuntu Hour Dublin! #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-21 <airurando> I can't locate the logs and minutes from last nights meeting at http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ <airurando> anyone got any ideas? <tdr112> wait a day or so , <tdr112> if not just take the noramly logs of the channel <tdr112> did you end the meeting ? <tdr112> link.test <tdr112> yep i see you did #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-25 <clovertone> hello. I'm having a little trouble installing Hamachi <clovertone> during installation, everything goes fine until the end when it tries to start the service, it shows an error. <clovertone> I used this installation guide on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpkUEGjDzn8 <clovertone> but prior to that I installed the latest LSB package, as recommended on the hamachi website, using apt-get <clovertone> this is the error from Terminal:Starting LogMeIn Hamachi VPN tunneling engine logmein-hamachi/sbin/start-stoÂ­p-daemon: Unable to start /opt/logmein-hamachi/bin/hamacÂ­hid: Exec format error (Exec format error) * <czajkowski> ebel: got them details yet so I can get the dns change <ebel> ah feck no, sorry <ebel> i'll do that later tonight postwork <ebel> well, i'll send you the details. <ebel> i suggest pinging everyone involved incl. new web masters to make sure everyone's ready to go <ebel> sorry! <czajkowski> np #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-26 <jarlath_> Hi follks. Just wondering if we have a localised HCL at all or if it would be worthwhile to establish one? I went in to PC world a few days ago and was amazed that they were able to tell me which wireless device worked with Ubuntu. If there were a way to gather that kind of local / national information it could make things a lot easier for people. <czajkowski> jarlath_: what do you mean localised HCL ? <ebel> hardware compatability list? <czajkowski> jarlath_: there is the uubbuntu certification program <czajkowski> well there is......... <czajkowski> it's there on ubuntu website <ebel> kinda cool to see a big computer retailer knowing about ubuntu :) <czajkowski> http://blog.canonical.com/2011/07/18/ubuntu-certification-is-changing/ <jarlath_> Thanks czajkowski. I haven't looked at such a list since Mandrake linux and early Ubuntu HCL. I found them unhelpful when it came to wireless though. They certed chipsets and I didn't know what a chipset was. <czajkowski> jarlath_: a lot then has clearly changed <czajkowski> jarlath_: the certification program is big with OEMs now <czajkowski> and seeing as it's the only desktop you can buy pre installed <czajkowski> we need it <ebel> yeah wireless were always an issue <ebel> cause there were only a few wireless manufactorors, and lots of retailers would slap their own case on it <ebel> so you didn't know what was exactly inside it <czajkowski> I've found tbh in the last 4/5 releases no issue with wifi <ebel> yeah, it's improved a lot <jarlath_> czajkowski: I've had trouble with USB wifi in the last few years - but I've only tried about two devices. <jarlath_> So for example - the unit I bought recently was a NETGEAR N150 Wireless USB Adapter (about EUR 20). I just did a search on http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ and nothing came up for it. <czajkowski> well it is a new process <czajkowski> but I know NETgear works extremely well <czajkowski> you could also join the lists for the cerfitifcation <czajkowski> or ask the guy about it that is running it <jarlath_> Ok, I'll do that. Thanks czajkowski. #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-27 <czajkowski> aloha <ebel> yo <czajkowski> ebel: got yer mail so is that the exact detals I shyould give once we find the webmaster? <ebel> yes <ebel> Well, from what I understand. if they come back to you and say something is wrong, come back to me, etc. :) * ebel shall look at minutes and track people down <czajkowski> yup <tdr112> morning all <czajkowski> anyone want to help mrevell https://twitter.com/#!/launchpad_net/status/96222459484848128 <czajkowski> it is intersting to do and only takes a few mins <tdr112> what does he want to talk about <czajkowski> launchpad and how certain things are done <czajkowski> tdr112: well worth doing it tbh <czajkowski> some new stuff happening and nice to get an glimpse of stuff #ubuntu-ie 2011-07-28 <johnt> hello folks <ebel> ahoy <johnt> hey - hows it going? <ebel> good good <ebel> yourself? <czajkowski> hows life <johnt> not so bad! <johnt> i was wondering if anyone knew anything about preseeding? <johnt> im trying to set a default wallpaper for a custom install - cant figure out how to do djennings@example.org... <ebel> I sorta do, but it's been a while <ebel> the wallpaper is tricky <ebel> IIRC you need to run a post install script that calls a gconf command that sets the default wallpaper <ebel> or a post-install command or whatever <ebel> find out what the the gconf-something command is to change the default wallpaper <ebel> find out how to preseed a command that's to be run at the end <ebel> put the 2 together <johnt> ah - cool, thanks! <johnt> i have a few other gconf settings in the preseed so i think that will work... <johnt> ebel: do you know if there is any easy way to have a system automatically install all updates and reboot when it needs to? <ebel> in the preseed? <ebel> I suppose you could do a post install script. <ebel> you may be able to chroot to the newly installed system, and do the aptitude update/upgrade <ebel> i think it's possible to have a script that runs the first time a machine boots.... <johnt> so - i suppose you can do the updates with cron but how would you get it to reboot only when needed (eg. a kernel update) rather than after every update? <johnt> does that kind of make sense? <ebel> do you want it to upgrade the machine every day? or just the first time it's installed? <johnt> every couple of weeks i suppose would be appropriate <ebel> background unatteneded upgrades are usually frowned upon. <ebel> Since it might break your system <johnt> true - but they arnt as bad as a system which _never_ gets updated which seems to be the only alternative... <ebel> upgrade sometimes need to replace configuration files, and ask you a question, i don't know how easy it is to tell aptitude/debconf to always select something <johnt> this is true <johnt> :/ <ebel> as for when to reboot, there's gotta be a way to know when your machine needs a reboot, since my indicator thingie tells me when it's upgraded <johnt> yeah - i assume there is a flag set somewhere? <ebel> or a file... <johnt> i just cant seem to find it <ebel> /var/run/reboot-required? <ebel> cf. http://fossplanet.com/f12/when-reboot-after-aptitude-safe-upgrade-146014/ <ebel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo <johnt> nice - thanks! <johnt> that cron-apt thing looks interesting <johnt> ebel: any idea which user the scripts in the /etc/cron.*/ directories are run as? <ebel> root <ebel> actually no, the user you specifiy <ebel> bah no. /etc/crontab you specify the user <ebel> for /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,etc}/ they are done as root <ebel> you can also have user specific crontabs with "crontab" command <ebel> and in /etc/cron.d/ you specify the user aswell <johnt> ok cool, that makes sense <johnt> ebel: thanks for your help with this stuff, i really appreciate it!! <ebel> no problemo! any timne <ebel> why are you preseeding things? <johnt> im setting up a system which can be used for virus scanning removable media (usb keys, CDs, etc.). the thinking was that the machine couldnt be running windows because it would just get infected by the same thing we are looking for and end up making the situation worse. the presed is just to create a working machine from a single CD which can be used by people who have never seen a linux box before :D <ebel> cool <ebel> a live cd would be helpful here. <ebel> since everytime you restart it's a fresh clean install <johnt> true - the only problem there is that the virus scanner needs to constantly be updated with new definitions... <tdr112> johnt: could you get the live cd to install a new copy from the net each time it boots <johnt> tdr112: yeah, i suppose you could! <johnt> but im at the end of a 9 month project - i cant really start again :D <tdr112> ah ok <ebel> ah yes, virus definitions <johnt> its kind of cool the way it works - it detects devices being plugged in with udev and kicks off a scan then emails the results to a database in the background <johnt> http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0728/nama.html <johnt> anyone thinking of buying a house? :P <ebel> :P <ebel> IME a lot of the time with linux you can spot 'odd' files on the usb disk <ebel> and delete them <ebel> but a proper virus scanner would be cool <johnt> it acutally uses Kaspersky - not sure why that decision was made #ubuntu-ie 2012-07-02 <czajkowski> ebel: they still want my password to access the email <czajkowski> mind boggling <ebel> haha <zmoylan> on the plus side its reassuring that they don't read your email normally :-) <ebel> czajkowski: http://www.dataprotection.ie/ViewDoc.asp?fn=/documents/responsibilities/3bii.htm&CatID=54&m=y this is what they would have to do. <ebel> (it's the obligations if you store data) <czajkowski> so now he has emailed back saying if I dont want to email him I can ring him <ebel> They almost certainly should not have your djennings@example.org. <ebel> Tell them that you do not want that person looking at your email. <czajkowski> issue is this <czajkowski> I send mail from my domain to --> x domain <czajkowski> x domain never ever gets my maik <czajkowski> x domain sends to my domain and I get it <czajkowski> they want to log in and see the issue <czajkowski> dont see why they need the email pwd <czajkowski> both domains and set up mail are on BK servers <czajkowski> davem: curse you for leaving <ebel> yeah they don't need your password for that <ebel> I suppose tech support can sometimes see very stupid complaints from people <ebel> so they probably just want to confirm that you're not being stupid <ebel> i.e. they want to check if the problem is between the keyboard and chair. <ebel> However, they should have access to their own mail server logs which should help them diagnose <ebel> though, who knowsâ¦ <czajkowski> ebel: twtter works <czajkowski> bk are on it <ebel> Tis a shame that publically shaming often is effective... <czajkowski> nods <davem> czajkowski: :p #ubuntu-ie 2012-07-03 <Mokmeister> Hello everybody! <Victor9098> Huzzah all! <ebel> evening <Mokmeister> Hello Victor9098 <Mokmeister> Hi ebel <Mokmeister> Meeting at 9? <ebel> yep <Victor9098> That is the plan <ebel> we'll hang on a few mins, see who turns up <Mokmeister> Good good <ebel> agenda is here http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-ie/441/detail/ <Victor9098> Bother, forget it was live UUPC night. Will get the podcast tomorrow <Mokmeister> Uupc? <Victor9098> Ubuntu UK Podcast <Mokmeister> Ok <ebel> dum-de-dum <Victor9098> If you have not listened to them before I highly recommend. The website is http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ all the past shows are there <Mokmeister> Yeah, will check it out, thanks. <ebel> i've heard of it, but haven't listened to ti <ebel> I used to listen to djennings@example.org. that was good <Victor9098> I have only listened to Lug a few times, and tried getting into the Linux Outlaws but did not take <Mokmeister> I've only ever listened to stuff hap hazardly, never really followed any of these things <Victor9098> But UUPC every two weeks and Full Circle Magazine both put out quality shows, good clean fun and all
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