#ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-01 <slangasek> "or even unity2d" - er, not true <bkerensa> slangasek: ? <bkerensa> http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/FreekBox #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-02 <slangasek> bkerensa: well, and why shouldn't unity2d run on that? <bkerensa> slangasek: It will run just not very smoothly.... <slangasek> really? unity2d is pretty lightweight <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> compared to gnome2? <bkerensa> :D <slangasek> not noticeably heavier than gnome2, no <slangasek> has someone done testing and found it slow? <bkerensa> I found it slower but thats not based on benchmarking more based on interaction with the UI <bkerensa> then again I have a brand new laptop now and Unity Launcher sometimes lags <bkerensa> I think vagrant is on the committee that decides whether FG will keep Ubuntu <bkerensa> slangasek: Thinking about taking a crack at another package http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2011/12/us/Portland?highlight=%28Portland%29 <bkerensa> I assume those still need to be done <c_smith> hello <bkerensa> hello <c_smith> bkerensa, I may be a few minutes late to the approval meeting, as I'll just be getting home from school about a half hour before, but I'll try to make it on time, no guarantees. ;) <bkerensa> c_smith: thats fine :) <c_smith> cool <c_smith> now. on another subject, I'm going to try to get in touch with JVLB to try and work out a few Ubuntu Hours this month and for the coming months, expect an announcement in the near future (hopefull within the week) <c_smith> better get on that. <c_smith> meh, according to the Ubuntu Hour page, it says I just need to pick a time and announce it, and be sure to show up, I've got a time already picked out, and I'll be using this method. would that be a problem with the LoCo team as a whole, do you think, bkerensa? <bkerensa> c_smith: I do not think it will.... Anyone can hold a Ubuntu Hour <bkerensa> Just announce it to mailing list and I will be sure to add it to loco.ubuntu.com when I see the announcement <c_smith> bkerensa, yeah, true, and you designated me to do this, I'm gonna try to hold up my end of the bargain. <c_smith> and I'm already in the process of writing the email, it will be every week unless I say it won't happen that week, or will happen another day than usual. <bkerensa> c_smith: Your doing an excellent job :) <c_smith> yep <bkerensa> kees: You about? <bkerensa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/790163/ <--- :( fail <c_smith> bkerensa, any luck with the Salem Public Library? <bkerensa> I haven't heard anything back I will e-mail them again and if they dont respond I'll have a note to call them in one week <c_smith> ok <c_smith> meh, decided to make my own Wordpress blog, sadly I have no money to pay for any of the paid features, but I like it as is. care to take a look? <c_smith> bkerensa: I just sent the notice out, should be arriving in the next 15 minutes. <bkerensa> c_smith: You should have just got a e-mail I cc'ed you which I just sent to the Manager of the Salem Public Library <c_smith> I did. <bkerensa> c_smith: Sure whats the url? <c_smith> reading it now <c_smith> http://csmith0292.wordpress.com/ <c_smith> if we get the okay to do this event, I'll definitely try to drag a couple of people along. <c_smith> bkerensa, I like what you've done with the Firefox persona, it's pretty cool <bkerensa> c_smith: It will be improved upon highly <bkerensa> cool blog :) <c_smith> thanks, I've just added a post about the Ubuntu Hour, this blog was one of my resolutions, to keep a blog and work on it. <c_smith> do you think adding a post on the Ubuntu Oregon blog is a bit of a stretch? <c_smith> about the Ubuntu Hour. <bkerensa> c_smith: Not at all we should always try to cross-announce on all mediums <bkerensa> :D <c_smith> ah, ok, armed with that knowledge, I know to not restrict these type of announcements. but I still am going to try going overboard. <bkerensa> c_smith: Have you considered attending Ubuntu Users Days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays <c_smith> would be something I'd consider, I should be able to attend most of them if something doesn't come up. <c_smith> honestly didn't know those existed. <c_smith> well, I'd better be off, getting late, cya. <kees> bkerensa: I think vorlon actually finished all the last of them. I've updated the page now. <kees> e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ldap/184-8.5ubuntu2 <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> kees: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ldap/+bug/910722 <bkerensa> :P <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 910722 in libpam-ldap (Ubuntu) "Request support for multiarch in libpam-ldap" [Undecided,New] <bkerensa> well I did libpam-ldap but oh well :) <bkerensa> good practice I guess <kees> yeah, I did a few that turned out ... wrong. :) <kees> still good practice, like you say <bkerensa> kees: I think the next thing I need to get down is.... figure out how to write out control/rules <bkerensa> when packaging new software <slangasek> bkerensa: yeah, all the ia32-libs dependencies are done now, sorry - my patch for libpam-ldap is in the Debian BTS <bkerensa> slangasek: Its ok ;) <TRAVISg> Hello all. Been a while. <TRAVISg> Happy new year! <TRAVISg> sorry I missed the bug squash how did that go? <TRAVISg> bkerensa how is the mentoring project shaping up? <bkerensa> TRAVISg: Havent heard anything lately but supposedly supposed to start this month * bkerensa dislikes the lack of info and communication <TRAVISg> right on I don't have enough working knowledge of Ubuntu yet to mentor but if there is another way let me know. <TRAVISg> Like if you need a beginers insight <TRAVISg> I can communicate fairly well and I dig meeting new folks so if you need either of those skills <TRAVISg> bkerensa read the link about respecting the opensource community thought it was great <bkerensa> cool <bkerensa> slangasek: Any idea how long till the multi-arch packages hit the repos? <slangasek> bkerensa: all the ones needed for ia32-libs are in precise already <bkerensa> hmm <bkerensa> slangasek: The following packages have been kept back: <bkerensa> ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 <slangasek> well, that could be for a number of reasons <slangasek> what do you get with 'apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386'? <bkerensa> The following packages have unmet dependencies: <bkerensa> ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 : Depends: libpam-winbind:i386 but it is not going to be installed <bkerensa> slangasek: This is all I can find out http://paste.ubuntu.com/791143/ #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-03 <slangasek> bkerensa: ah; looks like you hit it when the package was out of sync across architectures due to a new upload <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> slangasek: How can I fix :) <slangasek> bkerensa: 'apt-get update' <bkerensa> kk <bkerensa> slangasek: Still a no go just did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade <bkerensa> and its holding back ia32 still <slangasek> interesting <slangasek> I'm heading out the door now; if it's still a problem when I get back I'll take a closer look <bkerensa> kk <slangasek> bkerensa: the merge of the new version of samba botched the Multi-Arch: foreign flag on the samba-common package; will fix <bkerensa> slangasek: ahh :) <bkerensa> c_smith: Apparently the Salem Library thinks Ubuntu is a company so they tried to can me a message about how businesses can rent a room..... I'm responding to them with some historicals on Free Open Source Software and Ubuntu * bkerensa facepalms <bkerensa> hi zenlinux <zenlinux> greets bkerensa <zenlinux> I've been meaning to add this channel to my auto-join list for a while. :) <c_smith> hello, zenlinux <c_smith> bkerensa, do you play Skyrim at all? or at least have heard the epic theme for the game? <kees> I used to play Skyrim like you, but then I took an arrow in the knee. <c_smith> kees, I do not own an Xbox or gaming PC (or PS3 for that matter) and cannot play it, but the theme song, all I have to say for it is one word, "epic" <kees> c_smith: ah, cool. I just watch other people play it. :) I'll go find the theme song. do you have a url? <c_smith> give me a second to retrieve it. <c_smith> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcHxg9l5Bk * kees still chuckles at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrhDamN82k <c_smith> what's so funny about it? <kees> I just love the idea of creating a cheese avalanche <bkerensa> c_smith: I do not play it :) I play FPS's * bkerensa gets to go check out CTL's new Ubuntu Laptop next week the MB40U <bkerensa> :D <c_smith> heh, then you probably play MW3... <bkerensa> Gonna ask their CEO to give me one :P <c_smith> I has MW3 for the Wii <bkerensa> I have MW3 for Xbox 360 but I never play it... I found the graphics to be horrible :) occasionally when I'm not too busy I get a game of Battlefield 3 in which is my fave atm <bkerensa> :D <c_smith> wonder if BF3 has a port for the Wii.... <c_smith> btw, I'm wondering if it's possible to temporarily disable a Synaptics Touchpad. <c_smith> the one I have I call "The Accursed One" as I hate it. <tgm4883> MW3 graphics horrible? <c_smith> bkerensa, I just saw your latest post about the CCRLS Salem branch, you might want to take a look at the comment I wrote. <tgm4883> I didn't think they were bad at all, maybe I'm not playing the right games <c_smith> tgm4883, for the Wii, yes, that would be expected, not sure what system bkerensa has. <tgm4883> c_smith, he mentioned 360 <c_smith> tgm4883, then I wouldn't expect it to be as horrid as the Wii. <c_smith> bah!!! now I want to hook up my Wii and play MW3 multiplayer.... <tgm4883> c_smith, agree. Wii should have graphics slightly better than Xbox 1 <tgm4883> (or slightly worse, I forget) <c_smith> tgm4883, as I remember, it was only VERY slightly better than an Xbox 1 <c_smith> and they have put a shorter lifetime on it by using NAND Flash as the memory. <bkerensa> tgm4883: MW3 compared to Blackops = Blackops wins and MW3 is supposed to be better <bkerensa> :( <c_smith> plus the memory size isn't exactly spectacular, either. <tgm4883> bkerensa, I didn't play blackops on it <bkerensa> but in any case Battlefield 3 has epic good HD graphics <tgm4883> plus, I just got a new TV, so maybe everything just looks better :) <c_smith> tgm4883, get it, great story, even greater multiplayer, <c_smith> AND Zombie Mode (MW3 lacks that) <bkerensa> tgm4883: You gonna come to the LoCo Council meeting on the 17th at noon? <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> bkerensa, I'll try <tgm4883> noon PST? <bkerensa> yeah should be in #ubuntu-meeting <bkerensa> for our approval application * bkerensa is lobbying council ;) <c_smith> bkerensa, by the sounds of what is happening, I might be on time for the meeting after all. <bkerensa> good stuff <c_smith> yep <c_smith> bkerensa, also, let me know if and when I should start looking for another venue for the event. <bkerensa> c_smith: Its always good to have multiple venues lined up <c_smith> cool, I'll look around and ask, <bkerensa> I try to have 3-4 that will host us up here at anytime * bkerensa cant wait till this summer for the first ever Portland Geeknic <bkerensa> :D <c_smith> which reminds me, better call the library about the Ubuntu Hour. <c_smith> gonna see if they will let me have that there at least occasionally. <bkerensa> c_smith: lets wait and see what their response is <bkerensa> might not be good to open multiple dialogs with them :) might create confusion <c_smith> hmmm, good point, and I got that message as I get connected to management..... <c_smith> bleh..... <c_smith> would be very impolite to just hang up. <c_smith> well, just finished, I left the subject of the event for you, bkerensa, but they have said everything involved with an Ubuntu Hour is perfectly ok. <bkerensa> k <c_smith> I got you message, as I have said, just as I got connected to management. <c_smith> course, there's the fact the the Library is closed at the time I would be holding the Ubuntu Hour. #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-04 <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> ttyl going on a two hour walk #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-05 <SycPuppy> hmmm, Been trying to figure out the menu's in 11.10 and there is so much eye candy pre-loaded it's taking around a minute to open those menu's on the left, wondering if some1 could tell me what tab under system lets me kill all that "eye-candy" as I'm using a AMD K-8 on a fried MB with buggy memory and it might take awhile to locate it since last ubuntu I was serious with was 9.04 <SycPuppy> Is unity added over gnome or is it independant of it? <SycPuppy> 28 people afk? <bkerensa> =o <blkperl> slangasek: have a date in mind for speaking yet? :) <blkperl> bkero: when do you want to speak? <bkero> blkperl: sometime next week <blkperl> bkero: how about jan 13 (friday) at 4ish <bkero> blkperl: I'm flying out at 5pm that day <blkperl> hmm <blkperl> when do you get back? <bkero> jan 28 <blkperl> so want to speak in feb? <bkero> but I'm giving my talk then, and the reason I want to give it now is for practice for when I give it at the conference. <blkperl> oh <bkero> Kind of silly to get practice after the event <blkperl> lemme check then <blkperl> bkero: what day/time are you availible <blkperl> ubiquiil is going to reserve a room <bkero> anytie this week <bkero> besides tuesday night <bkero> err, next week <blkperl> how about wednesday at 4? <bkero> ok <blkperl> bkero: do you have a "bio and abstract" listed on the conference website i can steal and spam? <bkero> sure <bkero> linux.conf.au <blkperl> bkero: i pmed you <bkerensa> MarkDude: I won't be joining you at FudCon this time :) maybe next time I got two obligations this month * MarkDude was not expecting you to travel to Virginia <MarkDude> Do you mean Scale? <MarkDude> Maybe you can make it the 28th, I have a photoshoot with Nixie, and some zombies <MarkDude> bkerenzombie... <MarkDude> bkerensa, what are the plans for the Geeknic <MarkDude> And let me be the person to contact Leslie at OSU :) <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> I am definately not going to Scale <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> not unless Gareth is sponsoring me to go :) <bkerensa> LAX is hell :P <bkerensa> I think the soonest I will see you is CLS 2012 and OSCON <bkerensa> I will for sure be at UDS too <MarkDude> LA in general is hell <MarkDude> UDS shall effin' fock <MarkDude> or rock that is <bkerensa> MarkDude: We having a bonfire on Ocean Beach? <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> or Lake Meritt <bkerensa> LOL <MarkDude> Um, well the gangs come out at night <MarkDude> We are having a tour- of the weed clubs apprently <MarkDude> When I say we, I mean Ubuntu in general * MarkDude is willing to bet all sorts of $ that all sorts of folks will look "sleepy" <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> the gangs? <bkerensa> were not going to hangout in east oakland <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> we can go up to Berkeley for some boozing <MarkDude> There are gangs everywhere <bkerensa> peh <MarkDude> Like in movie West Side Story <MarkDude> Sharks and Jets <bkerensa> I use to go out to Hunters Point and Sunnydale <MarkDude> They dance and attack folks <bkerensa> never had a problem once <bkerensa> its all myth <MarkDude> You mean Gunpoint? <MarkDude> lol <bkerensa> I have been through East Oakland too.... The Killing Fields etc ;) * MarkDude used to work in East Oakland as mechanic- in his 20s <MarkDude> Hella sketchy <bkerensa> http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland-homicides/ci_12471282 <bkerensa> I think honestly I have seen worse things in the Tenderloin <MarkDude> #1 <MarkDude> Well more killings in Oakland than anywhere in Bay <MarkDude> But more criminals in Tenderloin <bkerensa> I was eating lunch at a park on Ellis St the first time I visted SF.... and this guy came out and he looked like Billy Crystal (The Comedian) and he started choking out this black guy <bkerensa> I was like WTF <bkerensa> apparently he was a undercover cop and the black guy had crack in his mouth <bkerensa> he was not Billy Crystal :D <bkerensa> I did get to meet Billy Crystal a few years later at the Orpheum though <MarkDude> Was Billy on crack also? <MarkDude> Years later? #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-06 <c_smith> hello <c_smith> heya <c_smith> is anyone alive here? <bkerensa> =o * bkerensa changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | IRC Meeting 2nd Sunday of Every Month @ 7pm | This channel is publicly craighoward@example.net | LoCo Council Application submitted see mailing list! <c_smith> yo <MarkDude> Hey there c_ <MarkDude> uh c_smith <bkerensa> hi <c_smith> bkerensa, is there a date for the January IRC meeting? <bkerensa> c_smith: 2nd Sunday of Every Month at 7pm (Was announced last month) <c_smith> k #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-07 * c_smith is at the Broadway Commons Coffee Shop doing the Ubuntu Hour for this week * c_smith is back <c_smith> though that was about 15 minutes late. <c_smith> btw, if anyone is here, I'm at a couch by the door closest to Broadway and Gaines. <blkperl> anyone know if theres a bug report in launchpad for the 6 openssl vulnerabilies yet? <bkerensa> hi blkperl idk <bkerensa> have u done a search? <blkperl> bkerensa: i did last night #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-08 <tgm4883> blkperl, that might be a private bug. Best I can think to ask would be kees or bdmurray * c_smith preps to install Linux Mint * bkerensa tries to remix Ubuntu California's CD sleeves #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-09 * c_smith is here waiting for the meeting to start whilst setting up Xubuntu <MarkDude> c_smith, it should not take too long <c_smith> cool <MarkDude> That is one of the reasons I really like xfcr <MarkDude> or XFCE <c_smith> yup <c_smith> but I tend to have tons of games I install. <MarkDude> 3+ years ago - I did NOT like XFCE much, EVERY time I set it up for freind <c_smith> that's usually the longest part, <MarkDude> The interface would mess up <c_smith> eh? why is that? <c_smith> oh, I see. <MarkDude> And I would get- where did my startbar go? <MarkDude> like everytime <c_smith> man, that would frustrate me to no end. <MarkDude> No prob recently <c_smith> ah, that is good <c_smith> like the dock at the bottom, simple, yet useful, <SoftwareExplorer> Is this the right place for the loco meeting at 7PM pacific? <c_smith> Si. <c_smith> you know what "Si" means, don't you? <SoftwareExplorer> I think it might be yes in spanish. <c_smith> correct. <c_smith> anywho, the meeting doesn't start for another hour. <SoftwareExplorer> Thanks! <c_smith> no prob, I'll be there myself. <SoftwareExplorer> I figure that if I get it figured out right now, nothing will go wrong. If it tried to set it up 10 minutes before, then Murphy's law says that it won't work <c_smith> not sure what you are talking about. <SoftwareExplorer> Murphy's law says that what can go wrong will go wrong. <SoftwareExplorer> So if I waited until then, I would run into some problem that would keep me from getting it working in time <c_smith> ah, ok <c_smith> well, if you need a couple useful IRC commands, I can oblige. <SoftwareExplorer> well, one to change to my other username would be nice. I'm usually Azendale <SoftwareExplorer> but I didn't get empath to import that from pidgin <SoftwareExplorer> so it used my old one <c_smith> that would be "/nick Azendale" (without quotes) for your case. <c_smith> there you go <Azendale> Thanks <c_smith> here's another tip: use tab to complete a users name. <c_smith> brb, relogging <c_smith> half hour. <bkerensa> Hello All <c_smith> yo <c_smith> how goes things, bkerensa? <bkerensa> Good * bkerensa just woke from a nap <bkerensa> :) <c_smith> that's good <bkerensa> not sure if nathwill will be joining us or not <bkerensa> :) <c_smith> ah, ok <c_smith> bkerensa, have your tried XFCE? <c_smith> E.G. Xubuntu <bkerensa> I have tried all the popular desktop environments ;) <bkerensa> I also have them all installed currently <bkerensa> :) <c_smith> awesome, I'm liking XFCE, <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> over Unity? <c_smith> it also runs really nicely, less annoying than Unity, and less resources than KDE. <c_smith> the 11.10 Unity, as I have stated, is annoying to me. <c_smith> 11.04 was doable, though <bkerensa> c_smith: My master desktop http://i.imgur.com/rTVjf.png <c_smith> is that Gnome 2.3? <bkerensa> nope <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> gnome shell <c_smith> hmmmm, I tried that once, didn't like how it came out. <c_smith> gnome 3 shell, am I correct? * c_smith wonders how Xubuntu will hold up on his multi-monitor setup when he hooks it up <c_smith> hopefully is works well <c_smith> heya, jvlb! <jvlb> Hi, Cody. <c_smith> how's things? <jvlb> K <c_smith> cool <jvlb> Anyone show Friday? <c_smith> one person not a part of the loco team. <c_smith> he also pointed out some things that I am going to bring up at the meeting. * c_smith will be right back <c_smith> back <c_smith> has anyone here heard from Ethan who was supposedly trying to get the Salem LUG back together? <nathwill> nooope <nathwill> brb <c_smith> ok <tgm4883> hmm <tgm4883> ethan <tgm4883> sec <tgm4883> salem LUG just took a trip to next step recycling <tgm4883> like yesterday <c_smith> as in it's gone? <c_smith> or am I reading that wrong? <tgm4883> you're reading that wrong <tgm4883> they went to eugene <c_smith> oh <tgm4883> to a place called next step recycling <c_smith> ah, ok <c_smith> I'll have to see if I can get to one of their meetings. <tgm4883> they have been pretty active on the mailing list regarding that trip for the last few days it seems <c_smith> hmmmm, interesting <bkerensa_> Hello? <bkerensa> hello? <bkerensa> ???? <jvlb> Yo. <tgm4883> ssshhh, everyone get down <bkerensa> can you hear me now? <bkerensa> mic check? <tgm4883> turn off the lights <bkerensa> c_smith ? <c_smith> oh, was just trying to fix sound <bkerensa_> ok <c_smith> sorry <bkerensa_> my network is acting something horrible <bkerensa_> so if I go silent its me losing connectivity <bkerensa_> lets get this started <bkerensa_> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jan 9 03:12:29 2012 UTC. The chair is bkerensa_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired <bkerensa_> #endmeeting <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jan 9 03:12:40 2012 UTC. <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2012/ubuntu-us-or.(864)930-0890.12.moin.txt <bkerensa_> #startmeeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jan 9 03:12:49 2012 UTC. The chair is bkerensa_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired <bkerensa_> Hello all and welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon January 2012 meeting. Our agenda for this evening can be found here: <bkerensa_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda <bkerensa_> Who all is present for today's meeting? <tgm4883> Eye <c_smith> here <bkerensa_> I know nathwill is here but he had to run and do something <CWeber10> hi <dobry> I, though, not a member. Just checking it out/lurking <bkerensa_> excellent :) <c_smith> hello, CWeber10, aren't you the one who was at the Hour yesterday? <CWeber10> yes <Azendale> I'm here <bkerensa_> Hello regulars and guests thank you for attending we will go ahead and proceed with the agenda and if you need to talk offtopic please join #ubuntu-us-or-offtopic <c_smith> ok, then I'll probably ask you to help with one of the agenda items <bkerensa_> c_smith can you paste the first agenda item <c_smith> you got it.Discuss Spring GeekNic (http://geeknic.org/) <c_smith> man, that formatting sucked. lol <c_smith> do you need me to repaste it? <c_smith> and bkerensa is gone. <nath_will> haha <c_smith> ok, so, I have no clue about the geeknic, <c_smith> bkerensa has said he is having connection problems. <nath_will> ok, while we're waiting... i got approval to host some team meetings on the yahoo campus <c_smith> where is that? <nath_will> any particular days work best for the folks who can reach hillsboro? (between beaverton and hills) <c_smith> also, CWeber10 like I said, I am going to need to call on you for some points you pointed out to me Friday. <c_smith> nath_will, a weekend for me, preferably Saturday, as I live in Salem, if I came, it'd need to be a weekend unless it's not a school week. <c_smith> there's the man of the hour! :D <nath_will> k, i'm leaning towards saturdays myself. welcome back bkerensa! <Bkerensa_> Comcast is having an outage <c_smith> really? I have been having a bit of shaky internet until a while ago. <c_smith> and I use Comcast myself. <Bkerensa_> Math will can you sit In for me <c_smith> also, Bkerensa_ need me to repaste the item? <nath_will> me? <c_smith> nath_will, I believe so. <nath_will> o dear <bkerensa__> ok <c_smith> yep, his internet is certainly acting up. <c_smith> bkerensa, you were asking that to nath_will, correct? <jvlb> Is it just me, or is this kind of dragging? <c_smith> simply because the main speaker is having internet problems. <c_smith> nath_will, I think you might consider taking up parts where bkerensa gets cut off. <jvlb> I retract my last comment as I suddenly got hit with about 20 messages. Something must be up with the network. <c_smith> it is, bkerensa is also getting hit by that. <c_smith> bkerensa is getting D/Ced left and right. <jvlb> I'm on CenturyLink , though. <c_smith> hmmmmm, this might be weird. <c_smith> >.< everyone seems to have the problem, <c_smith> ofc, I might be wrong there. <jvlb> Perhaps it's Freenode. <tgm4883> i'm fine :) <dobry> I'm comcast, in tanasbourne area. All seems good for me. <c_smith> hmmmmm, well, somethings going on if it's happening to multiple people on multiple ISPs. <dobry> agreed <c_smith> I myself am not experiencing this. <Azendale> I'm on EONI in Eastern Oregon, and I'm staying connected just fine. <nath_will> alrighty then... aside from a meeting @ yahoo! at yahoo ... <nath_will> hi all... i seem to be suffering as well... though not as bad as mr kerensa... <c_smith> nath_will, I have the agenda up, want me to paste the first item? <nath_will> he gave me some info to relay, i'm. gonaa try to get it out quick... <c_smith> k <nath_will> cody, if i drop, please do. <c_smith> k <jvlb> Does the Yahoo! meeting have a particular goal? <nath_will> ok. first thing. geeknic <nath_will> heh. ok before i move on, i'll talk about the yaHoo mtng real quick <c_smith> ok, I looked at the site, but could glean nothing as to what the Oregon Team would do. <c_smith> for the Geeknic that is. <c_smith> but the Yahoo meeting, go on. <nath_will> ideally, this will be a series of increasingly technical discussions focusing on open source, and it's relation to enterprise, particular focus on web hosting <c_smith> hmmmm, I wouldn't be able to be any help as to talks. <c_smith> I know nothing about enterprise or server. <jvlb> So, a LAMP implementation focus? <nath_will> for the first meeting, it'll be a more broad outline of what constitutes free software, what some of the bigger floss projects are, and how to find resources to get started in exploring floss <nath_will> kind of. it'll be a large subsection for sure <Azendale> I'd be interested to learn about nginx too <c_smith> hmmm, that's an area I'd listen to. <nath_will> :) we can pput it on the agenda for sure <nath_will> any other questions about the yahoo! meeting? <jvlb> NoSQL seems hot, these days, as well. <c_smith> I have one, <nath_will> k <leofseige> LAMP is stone age :) <c_smith> would the first meeting be one that I could take a WIndows user to and try and show them some of the basic FLOSS advantages? <nath_will> remember how quick enterprise is to adapt leofseige. apache's gonna continue to dominate for the next 5 yrs at least <nath_will> yes cody <leofseige> nath_will: i can't disagree with that <nath_will> first meeting will very much be oriented to newcomers to foss <c_smith> ok, that's an answer that really mught get me there. <c_smith> hopefully it's on a day that I can get there on. <nath_will> any other quick questions? <nath_will> on the yahoo thing? <jvlb> Will you update us on the mailing list? <nath_will> fer sure <c_smith> that includes dates, correct? <nath_will> look for it in the next couple days, with specifics <nath_will> okey doke then. <nath_will> next item's geeknic <c_smith> current item: Discuss Spring GeekNic (http://geeknic.org/) <nath_will> geeknic folks say we're a go, though we'll need to take lead on supplies, setup, etc. <c_smith> and where is this geeknic? <c_smith> and what day? <nath_will> ben said he's shooting for the june/july timeframe, right around oscon <c_smith> ok, and Portland I assume? <nath_will> pretty fair bet <c_smith> ok, I hope I aint in Chemeketa at that time.... sounds fun, <nath_will> ben can provide more detail on that if the location's a concern <jvlb> How about CWeber10's comments? Would this be a time to explore that? <nath_will> i didn't have time to get the full specs from him <c_smith> I'll talk with Ben about that, then. <c_smith> quick question regarding the team, though, who was the co-lead? <c_smith> need to get that on the wiki later. <nath_will> colead? i'm the asst team lead <nath_will> ot sure who else is helping take point <nath_will> *not <tgm4883> nath_will, are you the assistant team lead, or assistant to the team lead <c_smith> ok, I'll be sure and add that to the wiki when the meeting is done. <nath_will> cweber10, i'm sorry, did we miss a question? <nath_will> lol <nath_will> does it matter? <tgm4883> no <nath_will> i help ben, and try to help out when we do stuff. ;) <c_smith> and I try to help out where I can, myself. <nath_will> :) <nath_will> ok... i'm sorry, can someone reask cweber10's question? i seem to bhave missed it <c_smith> I seem to have missed it, too <nath_will> or comment... <dobry> likewise... <nath_will> jvlb? <c_smith> isn't showing up on my windows in search <jvlb> You may be thrown off by my comment. I was experiencing a long lag and thought we were waiting for Ben. I getting the discussion in bursts. <c_smith> hmmmmm, was it between me and cweber? <nath_will> ok. can it wait for one more thing then? <c_smith> if so, it was just me asking him to help with one of the agenda items. <nath_will> last thing is werry werry important <c_smith> I added a last item, myself. <jvlb> Don't keep us guessing. <nath_will> ok then... lol <c_smith> current item: Discuss Conventions/Conferences for 2012 (Events we want to have a booth at) <jvlb> Beer festival? <nath_will> wednesday the 18th we are applying for official status as a recognized loco <c_smith> are we not going in listed order? if so, I could copy that item in. <nath_will> it will make a big difference if we have a presence. <jvlb> What kind of presence? <c_smith> nath_will, also, the last item you are seing is second to last. <nath_will> csmith, i'm on my mobile, so checking the official list is impossible <c_smith> ah, ok, so I'll copy each item, then. <jvlb> Run with it. <nath_will> i'll wrap up this one and then would u cover anything i missed? <c_smith> ok <c_smith> we have several items, so I'll just go down the list. <c_smith> nath_will, you can use that as an agenda rundown, alright? <nath_will> ok... so specific time and channel have been sent to the mailing list. a reminder will be sent the day of <c_smith> and I myself may or may not be a couple of minutes late due to how it falls in my schedule. <jvlb> Any idea the time of day? <nath_will> if u can possibly make it, even just to say that ur attending to support oregon, it'd be awesome <c_smith> jvlb, Noon. <nath_will> not off the top of my head jvlb... csmith, do u have that? <nath_will> aw perfect <nath_will> aaalrighty, i've said all i have to say... csmith! take it away! <c_smith> lol, I didn't even open the email, if you want, I could for double-checking. <c_smith> ok, nath_will I may have to have you cover the items I don't know. <nath_will> that sounds right to me. <c_smith> because I'm going down the list. <nath_will> k.. good deal <c_smith> current item: Discuss Conventions/Conferences for 2012 (Events we want to have a booth at) <c_smith> nath_will, I have no suggestions, as I know of no events in the Salem area that are concrete. <nath_will> ok. i know we're looking to arrange travel to linux fest northwest <c_smith> where would that be? <nath_will> so a shuttle will probably be available to elp <nath_will> it's in washington <jvlb> Is that in Bellingham? <nath_will> probably be a weekend thing <nath_will> yes if i'm remembering correctly, jvlb <dobry> it is Bellingham, yes <jvlb> Long drive. <nath_will> probably pick up a passenger van for the weekend <dobry> april 28th and 29th <nath_will> and it's not so bad <nath_will> :) <nath_will> cool. ty dobry <dobry> np <c_smith> if there's a possibility of picking someone up in Salem, I'd offer to help. <nath_will> other con is oscon of course, which is in pdx proper <c_smith> with Linuxfest, that is. <nath_will> c_smith, we'll look at the details starting next month. nothing solid right this sec for lfnw <c_smith> ok <jvlb> Once upon a time, they held UbuntuLive along with OSCON. <nath_will> ok... oscon's obviously the big one. we're gonna do it up proper this year, too, as last year was a bit of a scramble <nath_will> ubuntulive? <c_smith> what's ubuntulive? <tgm4883> is that back? <jvlb> UbuntuLive was a short-lived, Ubuntu-centric event in conjunction with OSCON. <jvlb> It last was held 4 or 5 years ago. <c_smith> looks like it, as the site says the last one was in '08. <jvlb> There's one for our next Ubuntu trivia session. <c_smith> hmmmm, well, if I have a way to get up to portland, I'll definitely at least try to attend OSCON even if it's not as part of Ubuntu Oregon. <dobry> a week long at Oregon Convention Center July 16-20 (Monday - Friday), FYI <jvlb> In the past, Shuttleworth has been one of the keynotes. <c_smith> hmmmm, interesting. <c_smith> shall we move on to the next item? <jvlb> Hey, I'm going to have to check out. Keep up the good work, without me. Later. <c_smith> I think it may be a good item to bring the conventions up at another meeting when bkerensa can attend. <c_smith> cya, jvlb <c_smith> CWeber10, you still here? <CWeber10> Yea I actuly just got back, was distracted with RL <c_smith> hmmm, ok <c_smith> well, I'm just waiting on nathwill_ to get back, bkerensa had to leave due to connection problems. <c_smith> we will need you to repeat some comments that jvlb saw. <CWeber10> hmm I not shure I can easyly. problem with ssh, screen, console apps, I don't always know how to go back with them <c_smith> no-one else seemed to have seen them (not even me. <c_smith> hmmmm, ok <c_smith> well, like I said, I'll need to call upon you for an item at the end if the meeting doesn't sputter out before then. <Azendale> CWeber10: Well, with screen you can do Ctrl-A and then press [ and it will let you scroll back <c_smith> meh, the next item should be able to be covered by me, so I'll go ahead and cover it, I think we might be able to integrate the last item with it, too. <c_smith> shall I go ahead? <CWeber10> sure not sure what I was looking for <c_smith> ok <c_smith> current item: Recognize Cody Smith's contributions with Salem Ubuntu Hour kickstarting and Discuss some points that were brought up to Cody Smith about Salem and Ubuntu Hours there and brainstorm some solutions to problems that were lain out to Cody Smith (the two items have been combined) <c_smith> so, as CWeber10 (and possibly everyone here) knows, I have decided to have an Ubuntu Hour hour here in Salem, at Broadway Commons Coffeehouse, and CWeber10 has notified me, there were some flaws with that, <CWeber10> No flaws, just difficulties, Salem is not good at getting small nitch groups going. the salem Lug has tired to go at least two times that I know of and goes for about 3 meetings before falling apart. <c_smith> ok, and I also had the issue of the group being too small, am I correct? * c_smith hopes other people are still in the meeting. <c_smith> if there is just us two, I'll have to get bkerensa to hold a second meeting this next week to finish it up. <c_smith> no sense in having a meeting with just us two. * tgm4883 is here <c_smith> ok, and anyone else? * c_smith acknowledges tgm4883 <c_smith> guess not, the meeting seems to have sputtered out. <Azendale> I'm checking back every now and then. <c_smith> and I have no clue as to how to write the meeting minutes. <dobry> i'm still lurking with interest, if it matters <c_smith> so, I guess we'll have to end this meeting and I'll try to get in touch with bkerensa to see if we can get a second meeting to cover the topics that weren't discussed properly. which includes the current one. <c_smith> I also have to go, anyway. <c_smith> so, until next time, see you all. <Azendale> OK, bye c_smith <bkerensa> finally Im back <slangasek> blkperl: hmm, what were my choices of date? <blkperl> slangasek: any date, preferably fridays at 4ish (30 - 45 mins), <slangasek> bah, too many options <slangasek> so let's tentatively aim for the 27th, I think <blkperl> slangasek: great * blkperl marks down jan 27th * bkerensa tries to stay awake * blkperl waves at bkero <blkperl> im mean bkerensa <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> hello <bkerensa> have to go out to NW Industrial Portland today :( <blkperl> first day of school for me <blkperl> or back to school <blkperl> or winter term <c_smith> hey, bkerensa, have you seen the email I sent yet? <bkerensa> c_smith: Yeah I saw it and will e-mail the list when I decide whats best on that <c_smith> ok, just making sure the email didn't go AWOL. <c_smith> :P * bkerensa is likely going to go take a mini nap before I have to head out so I will ttyl :) <c_smith> have fun. * c_smith goes off to find his SC3KU disk <MarkDude> bkerensa, what is your plan for the geeknic? <MarkDude> JonathanD told me about your palns <c_smith> MarkDude, bkerensa went off for a nap. <c_smith> also, have you ever played Simcity 3000 Unlimited? <MarkDude> Well no * MarkDude thinks that would be like crack <c_smith> lol, old game, * MarkDude has NEVER actually done crack <c_smith> xDDDDD <c_smith> that made your response even better. <MarkDude> Same reason I am not playing KOTR <c_smith> ah, ok <MarkDude> Even tho I have not done crack, my analogy holds :) <c_smith> yep. <MarkDude> Maybe I should arrange a field trip to get some crack for UDS <MarkDude> Would make for a great slideshow <c_smith> xDDDDDD <c_smith> now, let's see, I doubt you've played Dungeons of Dredmor...... <MarkDude> UDS, the crack and weed field trip <c_smith> lol <c_smith> I'm cracking up here. <c_smith> hardest I've laughed at IRC in a good while. <MarkDude> lol <MarkDude> right on <MarkDude> Jono could write a song about the field trip <MarkDude> we could make promo video <c_smith> rofl <c_smith> hmmmm, Severed Fifth's new album is supposed to come out soon, better check the date. <c_smith> course, Jono said it will probably be delayed at the last QA with him. <c_smith> anyone here listen Severed Fifth at all? <MarkDude> Hell yes \m/ <MarkDude> Since Jono's first show <MarkDude> And his record release upcoming next month <c_smith> I'd go to one of their shows if they came to Oregon, but Jono has said that the problem with that is they don't have the money to do that. <c_smith> yep, the official release date WAS the 16 for sale and available for download afterward, but Jono has said it probably will be delayed. #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-10 <bkerensa> hello sbeattie <bkerensa> :D <sbeattie> bkerensa: hey! #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-13 <bkerensa> Hello all <Besba> hi <blkperl> Besba: hi <bkerensa> Hi Besba * bkerensa smacks thefinn93 * blkperl waves fist at slow webserver <blkperl> or maybe comcast <blkperl> slangasek: ping, see pm <bkerensa> MarkDude: Running into issues with approval app.... LoCo Council pinged me and want to know about events prior to April 2011 and problem is prior team leads didnt ever do team reports <bkerensa> =/ <bkerensa> no photos... no blog posts nothing <blkperl> really prior to april 2011 <blkperl> ? <MarkDude> Hmmmm, give me abit <MarkDude> pics of events <MarkDude> This will be a blood bath <MarkDude> IF THE COUNCIL WQANTS ME INVOLVED <MarkDude> It will get really, really ugly <MarkDude> The Emperor wears no clothes <MarkDude> thats the documntation * MarkDude 's documentatiuon starts with the process of Cnoni9cal KILLING the PNBW team <MarkDude> Soooo, I have some questions for the council <MarkDude> We go from there <MarkDude> They best reconsider <MarkDude> Or this will be UGLY <MarkDude> really effin ugly <MarkDude> This is about the only thing that would draw me back in formal Ubuntu stuff * MarkDude does not want to do this, I had a few things I said, I stand by them <MarkDude> Ugly <MarkDude> Tell paultag to contact me <MarkDude> Btw, you can swear in other team channels <MarkDude> approved ones, so we need to examine contradictory stuff <MarkDude> Council should be smart approve the Team <MarkDude> Really no need for me to get back in Ubuntu * MarkDude has ALL SORTS OF *DIRTY LAUNDRY* <MarkDude> no need to air it <MarkDude> :D * MarkDude does not think any of this will be needed * MarkDude gives odds this will be just me providing details <bkerensa> MarkDude it isnt paultag he isnt even involved in Ubuntu anymore <MarkDude> aND aPPROVAL <bkerensa> he is on no council <bkerensa> ;) <MarkDude> He has a hand in this <bkerensa> Charles Proffitt is making the inquiry on behalf of LoCo Council since our approval application comes next month <MarkDude> When I said dirty laundry <MarkDude> I meant it <bkerensa> comes for vote next week I mean <MarkDude> What day? <bkerensa> Next Wednesday or Tuesday <bkerensa> I cant remember gotta check my calendar * bkerensa is having nathwill go to bat that way they see a fresh face instead of me :P <MarkDude> Well hmmm <MarkDude> Good idea there <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU * MarkDude feels that way ^^^^^ :) * MarkDude is at FUDcon now, will get back soon on this * MarkDude needs to find notes regarding PNW team <MarkDude> dating WAAAAAAAAAAY before 2011 <MarkDude> Since we are talking older stuff * MarkDude has been spending a fair amount of time, finding stuff that Distros agree on <MarkDude> Uniting stuff <MarkDude> That can be put on hold for the time <MarkDude> For a stupid pissing contest if needed * MarkDude spent TWO years in pissing contest in Cali * MarkDude 's promise from the start was eventually fullfilled <MarkDude> the LEAD was removed <MarkDude> took two years <MarkDude> Oregon will be approved <MarkDude> PROMISE <MarkDude> Hopefully next week :) <MarkDude> ttyl folks, next session is starting. And I apologize for my too much coffee rant <MarkDude> XD #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-15 <c_smith> yo #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-16 <c_smith> hello <bkerensa> hi <c_smith> bkerensa, been trying to install Precise, but the LiveCD wouldn't boot up without throwing a Kernel Panic right away, is there another way I can install it? <bkerensa> idk.... I just upgraded <bkerensa> I think when I did try the LiveCD it wasnt fully done <c_smith> ah, ok, so "update-manager -d" without quotes does work? <c_smith> tried that once, but chickened out. <bkerensa> sudo sed -i s'/oneiric/precise/g' /etc/apt/sources.list <bkerensa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --purge && sudo apt-get clean <bkerensa> works <c_smith> hmmmmmm, interesting. <c_smith> the Wiki Page for Precise has the command I listed in it. <c_smith> I'll try that and then your command if it doesn't work. <bkerensa> hi tgm4883 <c_smith> hello <bkerensa> hi #ubuntu-us-or 2012-01-17 <bkerensa> slangasek: Any thoughts on dates for the next jam? I believe I sent you and e-mail <bkerensa> slangasek: Thinking maybe we could just discuss at next Debian Social? * bkerensa changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | IRC Meeting 2nd Sunday of Every Month @ 7pm | This channel is publicly craighoward@example.net | LoCo Council Meeting 1/17 @ Noon in #ubuntu-meeting <c_smith> hello <TRAVISg> Hello all. <bkerensa> Good morning all <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> Very snowy outside it is.... about 2 or 3 inches <TRAVISg> Wow where are you at? Downtown here is just wet. <TRAVISg> I put a dual boot on my girlfriends laptop this weekend:) <TRAVISg> ubuntu and the xp she already had <TRAVISg> she is giving it a test drive I was totally excited. <TRAVISg> All right I have a class to teach at 7:45 gotta run see you all at noon or just before. <bkerensa> okie dokie <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> hey you <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> nathwill nathwill_ : Let me know if you get a few minutes to chat before the council meeting to discuss our game plan with council ;) <bkerensa> also here is a log from a LoCo Approval meeting in case you want to know how they go typically <bkerensa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda/20100518 <nathwill> yeah, what's happenin? <nathwill> sorry bout the delay, just reading up on Murder <bkerensa> oh <bkerensa> Oh well mostly just wanted to point to the link above that has a IRC log so you know what they might ask <bkerensa> ;) <nathwill> okey doke. <bkerensa> Just a FYI for anyone awake :) I have reached out to someone I know at Dell and asked them to sponsor flash drives for our release party in April <bkerensa> and I have a few requests for food and drink sponsors out and some venue sponsors requests out so stuff is already circulating as for Release Party <MarkDude> bkerensa, ping <bkerensa> MarkDude: Ello <bkerensa> 3pm Eastern should be correct <bkerensa> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Loco+Council+Meeting&iso=20120117T20&ah=1 * MarkDude will see if he can make it <bkerensa> kk <MarkDude> and has also been assured that Fedora is ok with me making a scene if Oregon is not approve <bkerensa> I think we got it either way * MarkDude has green light <MarkDude> Hopefully <bkerensa> heh <MarkDude> No need for team to be involved with pissing contest <bkerensa> heh funny seeing people struggling to make it up hills on ice and snow <MarkDude> bkerensa, ping <MarkDude> pm <tgm4883> I won't be able to make it until probably 12:30 <tgm4883> unless this meeting runs short <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> that sucks :P * bkerensa was hoping you might be there tgm4883 incase they pop quiz on before my lead <tgm4883> yea, I'm hoping this meeting will run short (11:30 - 12:30) <tgm4883> but we're virtualizing all the things! so who knows <bkerensa> heh <bkerensa> tgm4883: Well in case they ask do you know why nobody did Team Reports before me? I personally didnt know they were required until months into being lead <bkerensa> nobody told me :) I just found other locos wiki's including them <tgm4883> Team Reports? <bkerensa> LOL <bkerensa> yeah <bkerensa> Every month teams are required to produce a report <bkerensa> summarizing social media buzz, photos, events etc etc <bkerensa> meetings logs <bkerensa> :) * tgm4883 shrugs <bkerensa> imho I think LoCo Council should play some role in informing new Team Leads and Contacts of this obligation <tgm4883> I didn't know they were required <tgm4883> and since I was the defacto team lead since everyone else moved away I didn't bother to look into it that much <bkerensa> ahh :) <bkerensa> hello kalosaurusrex <albrigha> hey bkerensa! <bkerensa> hi albrigha <c_smith> hello <c_smith> would it be safe to idle on the #ubuntu-meeting channel until the meeting starts? <bkerensa> sure <bkerensa> I idle there always <c_smith> k * bkerensa is somewhere between epic tired and asleep <c_smith> well, hopefully you don't fall asleep during this, ofc, we have Nathan for the main part. <c_smith> and hopefully all goes well. <bkerensa> I actually will be presenting <bkerensa> so I have to be awake <bkerensa> :) <c_smith> cool, <c_smith> lol, there's two bands Jono likes that I happen to like: Disturbed and Severed Fifth. <bkerensa> Just a FYI PuppetLabs just told me if we do want April the 28th for our release party that we are greenlight with them and they can host soda and beer like usual <bkerensa> so far based on the poll the 28th is looking likely <c_smith> cool, <c_smith> just because I'm available then doesn't mean something can come up between now and then that prevents me from going. <c_smith> "Resistance is futieoeoreoe-Error, Error, Borg 129123 has encountered a segmentation fault at 0xx0000000000, Windows will now reboot" something I said on #ubuntu-offtopic <c_smith> do any of you find that the least bit funny? if not, it's a sign that I have a bad sense of humor. * nathwill nods <bkerensa> heh <c_smith> well, at least it was terrible. <bkerensa> nathwill we need to do sushi and beer session sometime
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