#ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-02 <bobo37773> acemeister: Hello. <TechnodicT_> Ways the discusion? <TechnodicT_> Hello room <bobo37773> TechnodicT_: hey <TechnodicT_> Hello ubuntu user! <bobo37773> Nope. Used to. What Ubuntu version? <TechnodicT_> 12.04 ltd ura? <bobo37773> ah okay <bobo37773> Why doesn't Ubuntu use a text boot instead of a grapical one? Seems pointless and endlessly problematic <TechnodicT_> U quit ubuntu? <bobo37773> yeah. using arch now probably switch to funtoo / gentoo soon <TechnodicT_> Arch is always the best one.. <bobo37773> I used to think so but the more I learn about gentoo the more I am liking about it <TechnodicT_> Have used it for a while...but needed a stable system so switched <bobo37773> used what? arch or gentoo? <TechnodicT_> Arch..+ kde <TechnodicT_> Gentoo couldn't even install..! Lol <TechnodicT_> ? <bobo37773> oh okay <bobo37773> I have had the opposite experience as you <TechnodicT_> As in? <bobo37773> my arch install has been much more stable then I remember ubuntu <bobo37773> sometimes there is special stuff you have to do but it is usually in the news feed <TechnodicT_> Yes.. <TechnodicT_> Arch is still better than ubuntu...I guess <bobo37773> well I don't know. better is a pretty subjective word. but I like it more for sure <TechnodicT_> Yea <bobo37773> all the old computers I refubish I am using crunchbang though. really easy and pleasant experience <acemeister> hrey <bobo37773> hrey! <bobo37773> haha <acemeister> How is Ubuntu better than windows aside from the security? <acemeister> hi there <bobo37773> I did not switch to gnu/linux for better security. It was just an added benefit <bobo37773> I switched because of code transparency <acemeister> what added benefit? <acemeister> explain the code transperency please <acemeister> how's it better? <bobo37773> do you understand what closed and open source code means? <bobo37773> meaning you do not have to blindly trust that the application developers have your best interests in mind. <bobo37773> you can see the code yourself <bobo37773> I do not trust microsoft or apple <bobo37773> they are both in bed with those who would spy on and take advantage of me <bobo37773> for no real reason other than to further control and their own selfish ends <bobo37773> there is more to that story though. <bobo37773> I guess it's important to understand the beginning if you are to understand the end / present <bobo37773> Learn the origins of gnu/linux. Listen to people like richard stallman speak, etc.. You can find his videos on youtube and all over <bobo37773> but yes I would definitely say that the operating system is inherantly more secure on many levels. <bobo37773> To answer your question though more directly originally for me aircrack was all it took to get me to switch. when I realized this type of thing could never be done in windows because of how closed everything was I didn't look back <bobo37773> they have probably made some more progress in that area but that is only one small example <bobo37773> Why are you thinking about switching anyways? For security reasons? <bobo37773> No one can make up your mind for you. Not only that but setting up a dual boot is a pretty simple thing these days <bobo37773> alright I'm outta here <bobo37773> take care guys' <TechnodicT_> Bye <TechnodicT_> Hii <acemeister> i dont understand bobo <acemeister> the downside is you cant run most games and apps that are compatible with windows <acemeister> I don't dig apple either <acemeister> And I don't like how they sell overpriced hardware for a sleek shine <acemeister> they are the epitome of superficial pcs <acemeister> comps <acemeister> A pc should be built for function not artwork <acemeister> I can design my own artwork and paint my chasis <acemeister> why pay for the name <acemeister> ubuntu is just as secure as mac os <acemeister> why didnt ubuntu creator sell his os? <acemeister> bill gates is overrated he stole an idea from another developer to create a brainless OS and wipes his ass with 100 bills <acemeister> but how come linux didnt make anything <TechnodicT_> Hello world <acemeister> hey <acemeister> the earth we call the world <acemeister> and whats bad is evil and good is holy <acemeister> and the brain is the mind <acemeister> im so proud of a blank tape as a baby recording <acemeister> I can't fanthom why the hell <acemeister> please god if you're out there stop the pain <acemeister> show yourself and dont let me suffer one mroe minute <acemeister> Do you want to burn in hell? <acemeister> lol <acemeister> Windows XP has tourettes and gives me nightmares about burning in hell <acemeister> I'm a brave soul but that was one fucked up nightmare <acemeister> I swear to god i thoght i was being chopped up wtih a cahinsaw <acemeister> I woke up sweating <acemeister> and after I woke up even after 6 hours I was still afraid that someone was going to come busting through my door with chainsaws <acemeister> I went in my room and pissed in a cup because I thought the robots inside the TV were trying to measure the frenquency of the piss hitting the cup <TechnodicT_> Nice <acemeister> drank the potion woke up the next morning <acemeister> the piss was solid purple <acemeister> You can drink piss and its perfectly sanitary <acemeister> the indians drank it after their mushroom trips because all the psilocybin collects in the piss <acemeister> they would dig holes and let all the contaminates evaporate so when they ran out of shrooms instead of going back to camp <acemeister> just scrape all the pislocybin up and snort that shit <acemeister> Ubuntu <acemeister> Discuss <acemeister> No one is discussing nayhting about it <acemeister> prolly cause only 26 peeps <acemeister> but I asked some legitimate questions <acemeister> and no one cares <acemeister> cant get help in windows <acemeister> its free help <acemeister> bad advice <acemeister> No, I don't enjoy every response being countered with another useless question <acemeister> the frogs copmletely seared my eyeballs out of freaking out with the wine right <acemeister> its like being crushed by a crocodile dude <acemeister> I just dont want to suffer im underneath a crushing blow #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-03 <TechnodicT_> Hello <zykotick9> U.S.C. has become "the store" (from #ubuntu moments ago), how sad :(.. <IdleOne> last time I looked at USC it looked more like a store than a software repository <IdleOne> unless I'm mistaken the paid apps are 'up front" #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-04 <shadeslayer> jussi: didn't know about this channel :P <jussi> :) <jussi> shadeslayer: its nce to have so as the support channels dont get clogged <shadeslayer> :) #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-08 <luyang> hello there ubuntu people <luyang> I've moved to Ubuntu today <luyang> form Windows 7 <luyang> is there a way to see all running programs? <luyang> like in a task bar <AlanBell> luyang: well they are indicated in the launcher on the left <AlanBell> with the little triangles, but that also includes stuff that is pinned there and not currently running <AlanBell> you can press super+w to zoom out all the windows <luyang> I have a question mark on my Eclipse icon <luyang> it's not eclipse icon but a "broken" question mark icon <luyang> so I know a lot about the common unix command line tools <luyang> what else should I read to learn about the advantages with Ubuntu compared to Windows? <luyang> so my eclipse seems broken <luyang> I wanna kill it <luyang> pkill -9 killed something but not the eclipse weird stuff <AlanBell> hmm, not sure <AlanBell> these might be better questions for the main #ubuntu support channel #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-10 <pterodactyl> á´ <zykotick9> why is "service" management virtually non-existant on ubuntu for such a long time? i realize upstart is the major stumbling block. <jrib> what is this monster of a channel <MrChrisDruif> What do you mean with service management zykotick9 ? <zykotick9> i want ssh to start on boot, or i don't. <zykotick9> pre-upstart there was a default "services" menu item, that allowed for gui adminstration of services. since upstart there isn't. <MrChrisDruif> Ah, and you want a graphical front-end to configure that? <zykotick9> no. i'm just curious why ubuntu users aren't expected to want to do any "service management" operations. <zykotick9> i could still have the gnome2 gui if i wanted to. i run debian-stable. i have numberous service-management options on my distro. as does basically every other distro i know, but not ubuntu. #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-11 <DX099> hello, does anyone have any reliable intel regarding this ? http://vimeo.com/48631985 ? <AlanBell> it is just a design concept <DX099> alright, so nothing official <AlanBell> nothing outside of some blender models I expect <AlanBell> they are seeking donations to fund a business to build it I think <AlanBell> which is a bit odd #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-18 <zykotick9> i think "ubuntu-bug <PACKAGE-NAME>" helps no one but canonical... ubuntu is NOT a community distribution (even if it's had that "rap" for a while), ubuntu volunteers are unpaid canonical employees. <IdleOne> which is pretty much what any volunteer for any organization is. <IdleOne> our "payment" is the freedom to use the OS as we please <zykotick9> IdleOne: i doubt "most" volunteer orgainization take/or accept volunteer submissions for core "intellectual property" (i'm useing IP although i hate that word) <zykotick9> IdleOne: you are NOT "free" to use ubuntu as you please! that is wrong. ubuntu has a ton of non-free software. sorry i gotta point this out - strongly. <zykotick9> IdleOne: ubuntu's changing/evolving stand on "free" software is very interesting actually... <IdleOne> You are free to remove the non-free software <IdleOne> nobody forces you to use it. <zykotick9> lol i use it by choice, and it's a personal failing ;) <IdleOne> I'm not 100% certain but I don't believe that any non-free software is installed default. <IdleOne> zykotick9: I also use some non-free software by choice :) <IdleOne> I'm just being devils advocate here <zykotick9> IdleOne: lol... you must be kidding. drivers/ubuntuone/many more. <IdleOne> which drivers? <IdleOne> I'll give you ubuntuone :) <zykotick9> do you say ubuntu "comes" with nvidia/ati drivers? <IdleOne> it doesn't come with those drivers, it does come with the ability to install them. <zykotick9> IdleOne: nouveau for nvidia is "free" <IdleOne> the choice is left to the user to install or not. <zykotick9> nice - my requirement for an OS - is free and NON-FREE! <zykotick9> ubuntu doesn't meet that standard :( <IdleOne> I'm not sure I understand exactly what that standard is. <IdleOne> I do understand that the /Ubuntu Community/ is about more than the OS and what drivers it comes with. <zykotick9> IdleOne: my "requirement" that my OS, be either to be totally free/libre OR non-free. debian and gentoo meet my requirement. <IdleOne> zykotick9: I see. I am happy that there is an alternative out there that meets those standards. <zykotick9> IdleOne: ubuntu was a very cool experience for me! especially running an ubuntu-hour for a while, i met a lot of very cool/interesting people because of it. <IdleOne> My standards for choosing which OS I install is the type of people I am likely to meet while using the OS. Unfortunately in other communities I was unable to find the quality of people (I am happy with) to meet those standards <zykotick9> IdleOne: the reason i still frequent #ubuntu, is because of a genuine desire to "help" people with gnu/linux. i'm most familiar with/the best help with DEB based releases, and #ubuntu has a seemingly never ending stream of new-gnu/linux-users <IdleOne> The community appreciates the help you provide :) <zykotick9> IdleOne: differnt priorites ;). i hear ya. <IdleOne> We may not say it often enough though :/ <zykotick9> IdleOne: no doubt! "ubuntu has been the best community i have ever been apart of" ;) <zykotick9> IdleOne: i'm "sad" i feel (and should) outside that community now. <IdleOne> because you prefer to use debian or gentoo? <zykotick9> because i use debian. i actually swithced from gentoo to ubuntu - very happy i did BTW. <IdleOne> You don't have to use Ubuntu to be part of the community, it helps if you do to get your foot in, but like I said it is more than what OS you use. IMHO it is about a way of thinking, wanting to be a part of something that is bigger. <zykotick9> IdleOne: it's the "wanting to be a part of something that is bigger" that eventually drove me away from ubuntu <IdleOne> You don't want to be a part of a larger family? in a sense that what The Ubuntu Community is. <IdleOne> I like knowing that no matter where I go in the world I can find someone who is a part of Ubuntu and that I would probably be welcomed into their home. <zykotick9> IdleOne: ubuntu is a family - but a dysfunctional one, with an over-domineering father (aka BDFL) <zykotick9> that is "cool" about the ubuntu family, it's worldlie-ness ;) <IdleOne> Show me a family without dysfunction and I'll show you a family with a really big closet <zykotick9> lol, sorry <zykotick9> IdleOne: honestly - to sumarize my current feelings about ubuntu. ubuntu was #1 on distrowatch for years, as a user-friendly-debian. since unity, now #3. <IdleOne> I don't agree with all the choices Mark has made but those choices are distro-centric and even if they do affect the Community, sometimes negatively, I don't believe mark ever makes any decision lightly <zykotick9> sebsebseb is probably smiling that mageia overtook ubuntu. he's there community-leader or whatever... <IdleOne> being in 1st place on a download counter does not make it the best or most popular <zykotick9> agreed. but ubuntu was #1 for years. <IdleOne> right, Canonical never pointed to distrowatch to tell the world "Look we are the best!" <zykotick9> the "change" is telling of ubuntu's popularity. <IdleOne> btw sebsebseb was active in Ubuntu because he wanted to become "famous" He seeks out the acclaim, that doesn't work in our community. I would go as far as saying that we actively discourage people from trying to be stars. <IdleOne> When he saw that his positive work wasn't getting him up the ladder, he started being negative. <IdleOne> This is my personal opinion btw. I am talking as IdleOne and not on behalf of Ubuntu or the Community. <zykotick9> IdleOne: you can speak to me honestly, i'm not going anywhere with the info ;) sebsebseb doesn't impress me much (that wasn't really my point). i was just commenting on a known prior-member, that moved on (i didn't really know any of the history you shared!) <IdleOne> I'm not concerned about what I say being read by anyone :) <zykotick9> IdleOne: "This is my personal opinion btw. I am talking as IdleOne and not on behalf of Ubuntu or the Community. <zykotick9> isn't required with me! swear to god (but i'm a non-believer) <IdleOne> The history we share is what I saw from almost 7 years in this community. I saw him become a positive helper in #ubuntu and go to a very unhappy user who was only negative and almost a troll at the end. <zykotick9> of ubuntu people, you rang high on the list ;) <zykotick9> lol - i'm headed in the same direction! lol <IdleOne> Well, I hope not, it would be a shame to lose someone so helpful. <zykotick9> i do honestly with people wouldn't use ubuntu. but it is the group of people i can help the most. i don't mention my debian use as much as i can, 'cause i really do want to help people... <zykotick9> s/with/wish/ <IdleOne> zykotick9: i think I ring high because I make a lot of noise :P <zykotick9> IdleOne: i don't consider you "noise" ;) that what /ignore is for ;) <IdleOne> Thanks :) #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-19 <teek_> why does 12.04 "user accounts" in "system settings" where as if you actually want to change anything you have to search and seperately run "user settings". Why even have "user accounts" at all, why does "system settings" even exist if you can't use it to set up the system?? <teek_> ever since the move from "management tools" to "system settings" you have a bunch of programs that accomplish pretty much nil. <k1l> i dont really get the question tbh <teek_> I forgot the word "have" after 12.04 #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-25 <allohak> what is meant by "non-support"? <AlanBell> hi allohak <AlanBell> well it means that if you want to get help fixing something on your computer then the place for that is #ubuntu <AlanBell> but if you just want to talk about stuff then go right ahead <allohak> I see, I came here because so far #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server have not been much help <allohak> I was not sure if by "support" they meant "official paid-for support" or if they just meant it in the general sense <AlanBell> #ubuntu is probably the right place for that question <AlanBell> but it is not something that many people will come across <allohak> well, I have spent some time searching about on my particular question, and suspect that I need someone familiar with the server setup to help me <allohak> Question about IRC use (I don't frequently use this system) - is it considered bad form to repost your question every 10 minutes or so if you are not getting replies? <AlanBell> yeah, a bit if you do it too often <AlanBell> there is also askubuntu.com <AlanBell> that might be a better place for that question as questions stay there a bit longer <allohak> ok, perhaps I will try that <IdleOne> there is also #ubuntu-server <IdleOne> allohak: every 10-15 minutes is an acceptable delay in most support channels <allohak> IdleOne, Thanks for the suggestions. I have been posting my question periodically there as well, around the same rate you just suggested. I just was not sure if this was frowned upon or not <IdleOne> nope it is good. keep in mind that there isn't always someone around who knows the answer so it could take some time to get help. <IdleOne> !forums <ubot5> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums <IdleOne> you might also want to check the forums out <allohak> IdleOne, Yeah, I understand these rooms are volunteer staffed. I've posted on askubuntu.com at AlanBell's recommendation <allohak> ubot5, Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already been digging through them for some time now <ubot5> allohak: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) <IdleOne> I first started using computers in late 1999. I had no speakers, hell the computer I used had no sound card at all, didn't occur to me for almost 2 years that i could actually listen to music. <IdleOne> I sometimes miss the hum of the computer and the system bell <AlanBell> you can listen to music?!? <IdleOne> AlanBell: yes <IdleOne> I only realised that I could listen to music because at the time there was a .wav file that was very popular, wiggle.wav that all my friends would play (This is back in my EFnet days) and I was like what is this wiggle.wav mirc keeps telling me it can't play. <IdleOne> probably still have that wav saved somewhere <LordOfTime> is there an ubuntu discussion mailing list, or no? purely curious. <AlanBell> lots of them :) <AlanBell> but no particular counterpart to this channel I think <LordOfTime> well i found an interesting thing in Maximum PC magazine, they have one article in this november's issue on Win 8, and the one after that is about Linux, and the one they recommend is Ubuntu. <LordOfTime> i found that extremely interesting :p <AlanBell> nice <LordOfTime> they're usually heavy into tech stuff, and usually Windows oriented. I use them for my clients' builds when they want a powerhouse build i can really charge em for :P <LordOfTime> but this issue piqued my interest :p <LordOfTime> namely because i was curious how they rated win 8, but also because on the front cover they have at the top left "Is it time to learn linux?" (which REALLY piqued my interest) <LordOfTime> anyways, just found that tidbit interesting <LordOfTime> back to work for me :P #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-27 <Waqas> 8-) <Tm_T> I wonder if there's been some leaps in terms of features on unity-webapps lately (or what was that name) #ubuntu-discuss 2012-09-29 <ruben-ikmaak> hmm, the fallout of the ubuntu unity/amazon flap is very interesting... Mark Shuttleworth: "most of our users are also regular users of Amazon". So does this mean that Amazon is now market leader in the 3rd world, where Ubuntu is focused on? <ruben-ikmaak> or does this mean Mark isn that focused on bringing good software to the 3rd world as he told me in the times of the Hoary Hedgehog? <ruben-ikmaak> focused anymore i meant <AlanBell> hullo ruben-ikmaak <ruben-ikmaak> hi <AlanBell> I guess it is a globally focussed project <ruben-ikmaak> am i wrong in this account, or was i too ideally thinking all those years? <AlanBell> it isn't as focussed on that market as the OLPC project for example <ruben-ikmaak> i worked on that, and that is virtually dead... <AlanBell> yeah, I have one <ruben-ikmaak> so ubuntu is the only one specifically geared to that market <AlanBell> recently put the latest fedora on it, works rather well now <ruben-ikmaak> i worked on some support programs to 3rd world countries, repair support etc, thatÅ how i met Mark in the first plac <ruben-ikmaak> e <AlanBell> cool <ruben-ikmaak> he assured me that 3rd world adoption was his main reason to start Ubuntu. So do you think this changed? <AlanBell> it is probably accurate to say that most Ubuntu users are also regular users of Ubuntu <AlanBell> err, Amazon <AlanBell> it is probably accurate to say that most Ubuntu users are also regular users of Amazon <ruben-ikmaak> i personally doubt this the last 15 minutes, in his blogpost.... <ruben-ikmaak> as far as i know Amazon doesnt even deliver in more than half of the user countries. <ruben-ikmaak> i mean that ubuntu is still being mostly used in low-income countries <AlanBell> dunno, Amazon is moving into Brazil I think <ruben-ikmaak> i know of a lot of 3rd world rollouts, im not sure the "consumerist"world has more installs. <AlanBell> cool, where exactly? <ruben-ikmaak> so this sounds a bit scary to me <ruben-ikmaak> everywhere, eastern europe, africa asia, and more. <ruben-ikmaak> southern europe also big, very big parts woth low income <ruben-ikmaak> iá¸¿ not trying to troll, im just genuinly shocked by this blogpost <AlanBell> the idea of the shopping lens is it looks at local ecommerce providors via geoip and it isn't tied to Amazon <AlanBell> that was just the easiest one to start with <ruben-ikmaak> so i just felt momentarily betrayed by Mark, not neccecarily bu ubuntu <AlanBell> why? it doesn't take anything away? <ruben-ikmaak> i had this a lot with proprietary products, once they just see an upgrade notice that offers something seemingly worth more than their house, it somehow demotivates people <ruben-ikmaak> so i would like to see a button at least asking at install/upgrade time: do you know what an "Amazon" is, and do you want to? <ruben-ikmaak> If it has info/content on other locations i would still like to see a "You seem to live in Santiago, do you want to be connected to a Mercado? <ruben-ikmaak> i think it is very off-putting to people even here in the Netherlands, where we are begging for legal kindles for years <ruben-ikmaak> im not saying its as big as bug #1, but it could hamper 3rd world adoption a lot. Also ther doesnt seem to be an offline function to do this. <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority desktop market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 <ruben-ikmaak> i dont feel this is trolling, but anywhere i ask this everybody is very condescending about this. I just spoke to a canonical, and he replied: its not as if they have a real computer to start with.. <ruben-ikmaak> iá¸¿ going to quit now, i hope i vented enough of my disappointment now, hope i did'nt disturbe your rest too much here :) #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-03 <kingjames> any idea when the new GNOME core apps will be available as default in Ubuntu? <hrnz> GNOME core apps? <hrnz> gnome shell? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-04 * badpie discusses Ubuntu * badpie impresses young and old alike with his vast knowledge of Ubuntu and Ubuntu accessories. #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-06 <rickyc> could someone tell me if Canonical is developing "Core Apps" for the Desktop similar to the way they are doing with the Phone? #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-07 <venus_> hello how to use audio line in blue for audio out green as it is broken <venus_> in unbuntu #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-13 <soldiertn> Hi <soldiertn> Anyone there <jussi> aww he left #ubuntu-discuss 2013-09-20 <ocooel> Freezing on purple splash screen with no ubuntu logo or white and orange dots. #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-01 <hrnz> no <Lazza> hrnz: was that "no" directed to my question? could you suggest the right chan? <hrnz> yes. no. #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-02 <DJones> Lazza: Probably ubuntu-devel would be the best place to query that <hrnz> this is most definitely the worst place to discuss anything. because nobody is here apart from a bunch of idlers #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-03 <Lazza> DJones, hrnz, thank you for your suggestions #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-04 <jay> werd up yo <hrnz> ok <padolph> hello <hrnz> helol <hrnz> hello* #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-05 <salih-emin> ÎºÎ±Î»Î·Î¼Î­ÏÎ± #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-06 * anomaly12 says hello #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-13 <tomek_> Hello <tomek_> I feel like Ubuntu is not for me anymore. I'm using it since 6th version, now I'm on 14.04. I really don't like that this version looks like some kind of beta even if it is LTS. After 4 months of using, I'm not sure I have control on my system anymore. I don't remember if I installed some app 3 months ago and it's often very hard to find it. <tomek_> I really like the way of how MacOS is working, but it's so stupid to pay that amount of money just for an OS. I need some stable, professional, easy to use OS, mostly for developing in C, python and Java. What should I do with it? #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-18 <padolph> Hello <padolph> I'm looking for info on how best to contact Canonical about library support <padolph> Should I just file a bug? #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-20 <inb4The404Error> Hey <inb4The404Error> hilight_nick_matches = ON <inb4The404Error> lol <inb4The404Error> lol <inb4The404Error> ads <inb4The404Error> a <BlueBaron> Hello guys. <BlueBaron> I want to ask you, for some opinions on a Linux based OS. So basically, I have an old computer sitting on my room. It has 1GB of RAM , an old Intel Celeron 1.7GHz (Single Core) and ATI Radeon 9250 graphics card. Can you recommend a good os for this piece of shit? <BlueBaron> It runs Windows XP fairly well, but I thought by using a Linux OS it would operate faster.I had an Ubuntu Studio DVD nearby, so I tried installing that but it was laggy and choppy. #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-24 <andy_ubuntu> I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my oracle virtualbox through a bridged adaptor but can't connect it through putty from my windows host...what could be wrong? #ubuntu-discuss 2014-09-30 <quantumpants> Hi all. #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-01 <daftykins> wow, never been asked what time was before <EriC^^> what a pun <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^ :p <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje <daftykins> criminals in our midst! <daftykins> D: <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins :p <daftykins> allo <lotuspsychje> nihao cfhowlett <cfhowlett> howdy y'all. So: how large is your /ignore list? I'm at 19 <lotuspsychje> loool <lotuspsychje> 0 here i have ops for n00bs n trollz <cfhowlett> just comparing if I'm truly the impaitent, offensive @**hat I was recently described as. <OerHeks> yeah, lets merge the troll ip's <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks <OerHeks> hi lotus <lotuspsychje> hmmm <lotuspsychje> do we have a flash alternative yet on ubuntu <lotuspsychje> or should we use chromium/chrome until new solution? <daftykins> yep pepperflash is it i think <OerHeks> there seems to be a pipelight multi ppa https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/ubuntu/stable with newer wine also <daftykins> i heard of wrappers to use pepper with firefox, but not much point <lotuspsychje> doenst pepper get hacked also? <lotuspsychje> ive tested chromium from terminal many times <lotuspsychje> and after some browsing youl see sandboxed warnings <daftykins> gets updated pretty quickly by Google <daftykins> fixed before adobe fix it :> <daftykins> though i still don't go for chrome as a browser personally <lotuspsychje> yeah ive got more trust on them then adobe for sure <lotuspsychje> mornin lordievader <lotuspsychje> daftykins: so FF with much care then? <lordievader> Good morning. <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje <daftykins> just put flash onto 'always ask' before running lotuspsychje :) <daftykins> that should sort you out <daftykins> then you have to click items to run them <lotuspsychje> but when their malicious, most users will click them anyway <lotuspsychje> its not for me, but for all the ppl i install ubuntu for <lotuspsychje> i always install ubuntu-restricted-extras and if one day flash fails.. <daftykins> ah <lotuspsychje> just wondering for a good solution then <daftykins> i wouldn't allow the standard flash 11, so old <daftykins> it's a bit of a mess on Linux really right now :) <lotuspsychje> and a bigger mess on windows too <lotuspsychje> youtube should be better block flash and convert to html5 right away <lotuspsychje> to make users used to it <daftykins> no it's not worse on Windows <daftykins> i can continue using flash with firefox happily :P <daftykins> none of the drama that's gone on in Ubuntu land :) <lotuspsychje> i dont trust adobe, even if its up to date <daftykins> always comes up as HTML5 for me these days <lotuspsychje> you never know there are 0day xploits for flash <lordievader> There can be 0days for any piece of software... <lotuspsychje> lordievader: true <lotuspsychje> lordievader: but feels safer on ubuntu then windows for me <lordievader> Living in fear ain't useful. <lotuspsychje> im healthy paranoia <daftykins> ;] <daftykins> it's not safer at all if you're using the ol' v11 on firefox <lotuspsychje> in our country, mass ppl get phoned by 'microsoft' these days in english to ask them if they need help <daftykins> yeah i keep hearing the same <lotuspsychje> with a weird phone number <daftykins> not any locals yet, but folk in England <lotuspsychje> my father almost stepped into it lol <daftykins> doh! <lotuspsychje> i had to tell him, ive installed ubuntu on his pc years ago :p <daftykins> a friends gf at University called me up once and said she'd gotten taken over by some call <lordievader> Yayy, the ext3 driver will be removed :D <daftykins> the machine was Vista back when SP2 was out, but hers was still vanilla <daftykins> lordievader: in wily? <daftykins> or just in the kernel in general? <lotuspsychje> thats how those gangs get information social engeneering <lordievader> In 4.3: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT3-File-System-Drop-4.3 <lotuspsychje> ah tnx phoronix is also nice linux news source tnx lordievader <lordievader> Ext2,3 drivers have been obsolete for a while. The ext4 driver provides backwards compatability. <daftykins> 28,000 lines bye bye, nice <daftykins> yeah i think everyone in this channel knows that ;) <lotuspsychje> lol <daftykins> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/31/474 <daftykins> looks like Linus isn't keen ;) <lotuspsychje> oh-oh :p <lordievader> Hehe, people... http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34106482#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa <daftykins> i told OerHeks not to sign up but he insisted! <lotuspsychje> hahaha * daftykins whistles <lotuspsychje> he prolly got 5 affairs already <OerHeks> yeah, all mint users <daftykins> :O <lotuspsychje> hmmm maybe thats why im so paranoia oO <daftykins> scandal! <lordievader> O.o * lotuspsychje quicly removes scandal pics from Icloud <lotuspsychje> http://giphy.com/gifs/l41m1wh0lQN8ZbNTO <lotuspsychje> lol <lotuspsychje> A huge congratulations to @veltunas for the #UbuntuGoesSciFi competition. You can enjoy the winning GIF entry here: <daftykins> poor Bones :( <lotuspsychje> isnt stoPPed with 2 p's lol? <daftykins> sure is <lotuspsychje> my phone stoped working :p <lotuspsychje> hmmm alot of ubuntu official wiki's get updated lately <lotuspsychje> thats nice! <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch <lotuspsychje> custommed 5 days ago <lotuspsychje> would be interesting to find only the updated ones <daftykins> any of you folks run digitalocean VPSs? <lordievader> Nope. <lordievader> Their documentation is quite nice though. <daftykins> indeed! <daftykins> just funny getting a hash sum mismatch on their own PPAs just now <daftykins> hehe, i've got to ride my high end bike to the shop to get some brake pads, new seat post and maybe get a brake bled (hydraulic) <daftykins> it's gonna be such a ridiculous slog even along the flat from home here, since i've got my downhill tires on already <daftykins> :D <daftykins> hrmm this guy asking about DVD mounting, does blkid look at optical drives too? <EriC^^> i dont think so <EriC^^> lsblk should show it <daftykins> ah that's the one i've seen you guys use :) thanks! <daftykins> does it require sudo? <lordievader> Thought not. <EriC^^> np <daftykins> that guy PM'd me the whole output :( <daftykins> anyone recall off hand which kernel raring used? (13.04) <daftykins> maybe ubottu has it <daftykins> !info linux-generic raring <ubot5> 'raring' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed <daftykins> our survey says no <lordievader> I guess it is mentioned in the release notes. <daftykins> sure is :> my guess of 3.8 was right \o/ <daftykins> i've gotta clock out, if joyce seeks me out - they've got sleep resume issues, i was suggesting moving their trusty install to the vivid HWE from the utopic HWE but got into package hell <EriC^^> ok <daftykins> laters :) <EriC^^> later :) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-02 <TJ-> All the developer channels seem dead this evening <Bashing-om> Maybe, but you are here so we are alive. Where these is life there is hope . <TJ-> I need a highly technical systemd question answering; no response even in #systemd <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yeah, I did note. My systemd skills reek ! I have a long way to go, and the road is going to have a lot of ruts . <TJ-> Yeah, same here. I know where the generator files are but I cannot figure out at what point they were created based on hot-plug of the storage long after boot. <wileee> init: at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped in .xsession-errors no idea what that means, mildly relevant <TJ-> Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface <TJ-> that used to be a pretty common issue <wileee> yeah, no issue actually I can see <TJ-> It used to happen with Gnome 2 a lot. I seem to recall it was a by-product of multilib arch stuff, where a 32-bit app was running on 64-bit and the 32-bit at-spi wasn't being linked correctly <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lordievader> Good morning. <Bashing-om> daftykins: Teaching children to walk . <daftykins> ;) <daftykins> heh, remember that guy that had over 50 ubuntu boot entries ;D <OerHeks> i have seen one with 30 ppa's .. <OerHeks> and working fine, as far i could tell :-D <daftykins> X| <daftykins> hmm apparently you can say "yes" in response to a choice <lordievader> daftykins: Ofcourse: a or b, yes. #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-03 <lotuspsychje> nice walls: https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-fcs-1510/pool/ <lordievader> Good morning. <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^ :p <lotuspsychje> how are you? <EriC^^> good thx, you? <lotuspsychje> great tnx <lotuspsychje> !info scala <ubot5> scala (source: scala): Scala programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.2+dfsg-2 (vivid), package size 11168 kB, installed size 12958 kB <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/pinguy-os-14-04-3-mini-replaces-adobe-flash-with-pepper-flash-in-firefox-490746.shtml <lotuspsychje> hmm interesting pepperflash in firefox <daftykins> 10 minutes and counting now, getting a user to pastebin ls -al ~/ <OerHeks> :-) <wileee> nothing like encryption to mess your day up <daftykins> windows encryption by the sounds too :D <daftykins> but a college told him to install 14.10 within the last week? madness <wileee> yeah, mixing the two is fine, if you know what you're doing, not sure the user has even basic skills <daftykins> lol just want ONE pastebin from that user and it's been ages now <daftykins> how is that guy getting / when pastebin'ing ~ <daftykins> i swear i'm getting trolled <OerHeks> yes you are. <daftykins> tgm4883: guest is a leet hacker ;) <tgm4883> daftykins: is this legit ubuntu? <tgm4883> or something else <EriC^^> i think on old boxes if there isn't a /root ~ is just / for root <daftykins> i guess i don't know for sure, i just tried to get a pastebin of ~ both via ~/ and /home/username and never succeeded in over 30 mins <daftykins> i tried to suggest tab complete, then got told we were trying to paste a blank document <daftykins> so /home/username doesn't exist for that guys expected username <daftykins> after that i asked for what "ls /home" showed - and apparently "root root" was what was there <daftykins> so unless this guy installed and chose 'root' as the username - but surely you can't even do that? :D <EriC^^> he's forgotten his password? <OerHeks> i wonder how many users are now running on that machine.. <daftykins> tgm4883 + EriC^^ - is there a 'list users' command that would work from the guest terminal session o0 <daftykins> or we could persist with asking for a "ls /home" to be pastebin'd again <daftykins> i really don't think a valid user exists, or it has no /home if so <EriC^^> oh yeah, guest can't see /home btw <EriC^^> it's pretty locked down :> <EriC^^> i think apparmor takes care of a bunch of those stuff <daftykins> ah ok <daftykins> well i had been having him use TTY1 so somehow he's logging in with a user+pass <daftykins> just a /home/username doesn't seem to exist <EriC^^> oh <daftykins> "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" gave me the contents of / O_O <daftykins> assuming that user isn't doing something dumb <tgm4883> daftykins: well you could cat /etc/passwd <tgm4883> maybe as the guest account, IDK <EriC^^> i think he has deleted his home dir <daftykins> XD <tgm4883> in any case, lets see if he can create a regular user and login graphically with it <EriC^^> or changed it in /etc/passwd less likely though <tgm4883> then he can SU with that user <daftykins> sounds like a plan <daftykins> sounded like every time he went to TTY1, the guest session would close and IRC would be lost <daftykins> seems like a drawback to guest sessions <tgm4883> admin access is jus the sudo group right? <EriC^^> yeah <tgm4883> and to think, I was going to go eat lunch earlier <EriC^^> which account did he use in tty anyways? isn't that the admin account? <daftykins> tgm4883: sorry for ruining your lunch :> <tgm4883> So that is why he can't login graphically <tgm4883> no home <EriC^^> what's with the new marlboro packs? they erased the marlboro logo so it's almost white, new type of marketing type? <daftykins> i was told it was the silly leet one, but was never told for sure <EriC^^> found a pic online http://www.talkingretail.com/products-news/tobacco/philip-morris-reveals-new-look-marlboro/ <EriC^^> it's kind of bold of them from a marketing point of view <EriC^^> "let's almost erase the logo" <EriC^^> nah it's the same one just with a new look <EriC^^> i smoke soft packs though, we dont have the other packs new look here yet, afaik <daftykins> heh, perhaps they want to become: ^ <EriC^^> lol <EriC^^> i think if they make a new cig called #smoking <EriC^^> it would sell like crazy <EriC^^> pretty soon we'll be calling our kids #steve and saying stuff like i want to buy a #newcar please <EriC^^> lol <daftykins> all that social notworking stuff, ugh <daftykins> aaaand it's holiday time! <daftykins> not leaving yet, but from #ubuntu i am 8D <OerHeks> have fun man <daftykins> ty! need to pack tomorrow then i'll be off for the afternoon <daftykins> by the afternoon, rather <daftykins> then it's mountain biking ho \o/ <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw7onggkm9awyf2/IMG_20150903_130335.jpg?dl=0 <daftykins> ready to go 8) #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-04 <lotuspsychje> good (early) morning to all <lordievader> Good morning <Bashing-om> lordievader: It is, it is // A bit slow .. but next second, who knows ? <lordievader> Is it? <Bashing-om> lordievader: Well, you will have to tell me later if it is, as I am close to closing out for this session . <lordievader> ;) <Bashing-om> I be down for the count. <lotuspsychje> good evening guys <lotuspsychje> someone on 15.04 or 15.10 can confirm if startup items list is fully showing on systemd? <lotuspsychje> or does it hide items to enable/disable like in trusty? <lotuspsychje> TJ-: good evening <Astronautr> Hey #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-05 <Astronautr> hello <Bashing-om> Astronautr: Speak . <ObrienDave> waves <ObrienDave> woof <Astronautr> hey guys, what do you think about cannonical plans about migration on mir server? <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <ObrienDave> waves <lotuspsychje> hey ObrienDave <lotuspsychje> bout to go to the market <ObrienDave> ahh, midnight here. having a few beers :) <lotuspsychje> cheers! <ObrienDave> \o/ <lotuspsychje> laterz ObrienDave :p <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> good afternoon <pauljw> hi <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw <lotuspsychje> someone on 15.04 or 15.10 can confirm if startup items list is fully showing on systemd? <lotuspsychje> or does it hide items like on trusty? <TJ-> what is 'startup items list' ? <lotuspsychje> TJ-: http://i.stack.imgur.com/10ozn.png <TJ-> Sorry, I don't use Gnome/Unity <lotuspsychje> ok np <TJ-> That's the user session processes? <lotuspsychje> TJ-: what you using to enable/disable systemd processes? <TJ-> systemctl <lotuspsychje> !info systemctl <ubot5> Package systemctl does not exist in vivid <TJ-> It's the service control interface for systemd init <lotuspsychje> kk <TJ-> e.g. 'systemctl --user status' or 'sudo systemctl status' <lotuspsychje> im still on trusty, was wondering if it got easier <lotuspsychje> to manage unwanted services <TJ-> It's easier thn upstart so far at least <lotuspsychje> ok tnx <TJ-> 'systemctl disable <service> && systemctl stop <service>' <TJ-> Here's an example of 'sudo systemctl status' ... very comprehensive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12282503/ <lotuspsychje> know any GUI for systemctl <lotuspsychje> looks bit like pstree <TJ-> contradiction in terms :) command-line is far easier/more powerful/flexible <lotuspsychje> yeah i know but ill work with regular users in the future soon :p <EriC^^> TJ-: does any vm support efi properly? i tried vbox with efi enabled but it won't boot for some reason and drops me to a uefi shell, i want to test something and don't want to bork my system during the process <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^^ .. IRT ztane ; Could we not do something like ' sudo fsck -b 32768 /dev/sdb5 ' to replace the superblock ? <EriC^^> hmm it wasn't in the efibootmgr list, i chrooted and grub-install'd and now it's there, now to reboot and see if it will boot it <EriC^^> nope <EriC^^> i think it doesn't like shimx64.efi i tried to chainload it without luck but grubx64.efi boots fine <EriC^^> will switch those in the efibootmgr if it is sticking <EriC^^> seems to reset the efibootmgr on reboot, there's a hard drive ACPI though, anyways it's fine <EriC^^> j #linux #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-06 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <Bashing-om> Ending my shift. See all yall later, as in later . <lordievader> Good morning. <TJ-> What the hell is going on in #ubuntu; Drone just +q'ed me <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-will-not-abandon-deb-packaging-in-favor-of-snappy-says-mark-shuttleworth-491023.shtml <popey> surprised that's even news <popey> we keep saying it <lotuspsychje> popey: yeah there was 1 article on softpedia few ago that mention .debs would dissapear, guess thats frighten everyone out #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-07 <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/the-ubuntu-tablets-are-coming-and-they-look-beefy-video-491047.shtml <lotuspsychje> gpdev: good morning :p <gpdev> Morning?! Good afternoon! :p <lotuspsychje> gpdev: yeah worldwide timezone gap here :p <lotuspsychje> 7h34 here <gpdev> Sounds like coffee time haha <lotuspsychje> mmm yeah <gpdev> It's 3:36pm here <gpdev> I'm in between work and irc so there may be a delay <lotuspsychje> np, we are used to idle <lordievader> Good morning. <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader <lotuspsychje> lordievader: did you see this1 :p https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiforeveryone/mycroft-an-open-source-artificial-intelligence-for <ObrienDave> waves <lotuspsychje> hi ObrienDave <lordievader> Morning lotuspsychje, ObrienDave <lordievader> lotuspsychje: I haven't. <ObrienDave> sigh, yes it is morning and i have no water in my new place GRRRRRRRR <lotuspsychje> ouch <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: grab a beer :p <ObrienDave> landlord has a plumber coming. be here within 2 hours *sigh* <ObrienDave> i have PLENTY of beer ;P <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: go get a takeaway breakfast <lordievader> Too bad it doesn't say what kind of algorithms they use. <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yeah not sure, pretty enw to me also <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje, wife and i just got back from dinner LOL <lordievader> I hope for them it ain't neural networks. Neural networks and pi's don't mix. <lotuspsychje> gpdev: help with what? <lotuspsychje> lordievader: the video looks nice, mycroft turn the lights on! make coffee! <lordievader> Probably has Sphinx under the hood. <lotuspsychje> lordievader: its snappy core based <lotuspsychje> lordievader: maybe the #snappy guys might know more under the hood? * lordievader wonders if they are using Festival <gpdev> lotuspsychje: General/basic queries where I can. Currently working with 14.04 on work's servers <ObrienDave> lordy, who let the loonies out in #u-ot? <lotuspsychje> ot has always had loonies lol <lordievader> Alda looks interesting: http://daveyarwood.github.io/alda/2015/09/05/alda-a-manifesto-and-gentle-introduction/ <lotuspsychje> lordievader: your a musician also now? <lordievader> Have been for quite some time. <lotuspsychje> cool <ObrienDave> plumber will be here in 40 minutes. i guess i'll have to hang out with the cool kids until then ;P <ObrienDave> plumber is here. gotta run <lotuspsychje> good evening to all <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje> hello pauljw #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-08 <Bashing-om> TJ-: O/ <TJ-> Morning :) <TJ-> I need a systemd guru... seems like there aren't many/any on IRC <Bashing-om> TJ-: Unfortunatly, you are the best I am aware of . Gentoo channel ? <TJ-> Not with SysD. I'm still stuck with it trying to automount hot-plug external drives at boot because it has created units for each LVM and file-system. If they aren't connected boot stalls for several minutes, and gives me no opportunity to interrupt it <TJ-> I've also got a *very* strange problem; I have several DEs (Lubuntu/LXDE, and Kubuntu/Plasma. For some reason *only* when the user session starts with Plasma an emtpy document in Abiword is loaded! Now, Abiword is only installed with Lubuntu, but with that DE session Abiword doesn't start! <TJ-> For the last 2 weeks I've searched every autostart setting I can find, without a clue as to what is triggering it. <TJ-> This is testing with 15.10 - so getting these bugs pinned down and fixed before release is getting quite urgent :) <Bashing-om> TJ-: Just a hairy thought (from upstart), anything strange in /etc/apparmor.d/ ? <TJ-> Not that I've been able to find. <TJ-> I *suspect* that abiword is not being launched directly; I think it is because it is the system's registered handler for some file format (e.g. .doc). But no document is actually loaded. I've been unable to trace it back through the parent process ID either, since that has PID 1 - which just points to the init system. <TJ-> Well; just removed #debian from my list of channels because they have a stupid quiet/ban rule for "*!*root@*" <pauljw> gnite all <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <lordievader> Good morning. <darth_tehx> Hi <darth_tehx> someone interested in discussion about Ubuntu Maas <lordievader> tehx: Please remind me what Maas was. <tehx> lordievader: Maas is the Metal As A Service, its purpose is to install physikal servers. <lordievader> Can it be compared to soemthing like Xen? <tehx> It is rather ditributing Ubuntu iso throug PXE on Physikal Hardware and makes a Inventory of servers installed through maas. <lordievader> Ahh, I see. <tehx> A thing that annoys me about it, is that every service, DNS, DHCP, TFTP, PXE, Apache, Mysql, Python needs to be installed on one box. <tehx> It is quite comfortable as you only have to push a button and your server will be up and running. <lotuspsychje> good evening mates <lordievader> o/ <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader :p <lotuspsychje> what your messing with today :p <lordievader> A piece of code. <lordievader> What are you up to? <lotuspsychje> browsing linux news a bit :p #ubuntu-discuss 2015-09-09 <Bashing-om> TJ-: While waiting, how about shedding some lignt on my ignorance in booting 15.04 to terminal /// can I add the boot parameter " systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' To grub's boot line and still come up with networking ability ? <TJ-> I'm not sure :) <Bashing-om> TJ-: Thn I fixing to test with OP ... I know I can boot to terminal with 'text' but that gives no networking ability by default . <TJ-> Yes, according to the man-pages that is correct <TJ-> multi-user.target <TJ-> A special target unit for setting up a multi-user system (non-graphical). This is pulled in by graphical.target. <TJ-> systemd.unit=, rd.systemd.unit= <TJ-> Overrides the unit to activate on boot. Defaults to default.target. This may be used to temporarily boot into a different boot <TJ-> unit, for example rescue.target or emergency.service. <Bashing-om> TJ-: Thanks for the confirmation. Maybe time to test with JeanMV / If I get no joy with my present procedure . <lotuspsychje> good morning to all <OerHeks> geut meurning <lotuspsychje> heuw eur you deing OerHeks :p <OerHeks> Modem broke down, got new modem, multi port and wireless.. <lotuspsychje> wich brand? <OerHeks> when i unpacked that thing i was afraid it was an 100 mbit thing.. but no, 1000 mbit :-D <lotuspsychje> your online too much, you smokes it haha <OerHeks> Thompson <lotuspsychje> nice nice <OerHeks> sure, 4 years 24/7, that thing worked well <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-snappy-core-and-raspberry-pi-2-powered-mycroft-device-successfully-founded-491257.shtml <lotuspsychje> check the mycroft video :p its cool <lotuspsychje> seems cooler then the ninja snappy thing <lotuspsychje> the video from here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiforeveryone/mycroft-an-open-source-artificial-intelligence-for/posts/1323377 <lotuspsychje> mycroft fix my modem! lol <OerHeks> user admin pass admin .. really, Ziggo ? <lotuspsychje> admin 1234 :p <lotuspsychje> good security job <OerHeks> That gigabit
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