#ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-01 <ubuntu-fl> Announcement from my owner (tiemonster): ##saiku saiku <mhall119> !seen tiemonster <ubuntu-fl> mhall119: tiemonster was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 1 week, 0 days, 21 hours, 18 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tiemonster> mhall119: are you around? <DammitJim> where is he? <mhall119> working <mhall119> lazy bastard <zoopster> wow...lot's of cruft in the user list...mootbok and mootbot-uk, ubuntulo1, ubuntulog2 and locobot_4 - what the heck <mhall119> we've always had locobot_4 and we've had MootBot(-uk) for a while now <mhall119> the ubuntulog bots are part of a new logging initiative, IIRC <mhall119> we probably don't need 2 each of mootbot and logbot <zoopster> a bit of monitoring overkill <tiemonster> mhall119: using SSL+SASL would provide similar protection to SOCKS5 over SSH, right? <DammitJim> tiemonster, is back! <tiemonster> lol <tiemonster> mhall119: everything has been transferred to the new server <tiemonster> !xkcd server <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: http://xkcd.com/278/ <itnet7> zoopster: really only one log bot and the mootbot-uk should be here <itnet7> I can try kicking the others. <tiemonster> itnet7: what happened? <itnet7> Nothing, the new ubuntulog bot was rolled out <itnet7> so I am not sure we need the locobot_4 or one of the ubuntulo1 <itnet7> I was just reading what zoopster had written earlier about monitoring overkill <tiemonster> gotcha <tiemonster> thought ubuntu-fl was misbehaving <itnet7> Oh, no not at all! <itnet7> :-) <tiemonster> good <tiemonster> I'd hate to lose our little xkcd bot <itnet7> tiemonster: it's great! <tiemonster> :-) * itnet7 changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-fl to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Florida Local Community IRC Chat !! || Next Team Meeting: Tuesday, December 7th, 8:00 pm EST || Please add your discussion items and Ideas to our Meeting Agenda located here: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-fl-agenda || http://www.ubuntu-fl.org #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-02 <DammitJim> is there such a thing as defragmenting your hard drive on linux? <itnet7> DammitJim: the linux filesystem stores files differently from ntfs and fat, it's not necessary to defrag as I believe the extX filesystems are designed to minimize fragmentation during use. <DammitJim> I'm wondering why my computer is so slow, then <DammitJim> LOL <itnet7> There used to be some utilities like e2defrag that would allow you to "defrag" an unmounted partition, but I haven't heard about anyone really using it lately <itnet7> If it's just an older machine and you want to play around, check out this: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/defragmenting-linux-ext3-filesystems.html <itnet7> but make sure you backup anything important <DammitJim> no, I've had this machine for 6 months <DammitJim> and it's pretty beefy <tiemonster> mhall119: are you around today? I seem to remember you saying you'd be in Jax... <AndChat-> Hello florida <AndChat-> Grr <crashsystems1> That's better <maxolasersquad> . <maxolasersquad> In VM, is there a way I can pass the text of the current buffer as an argument in bash? <maxolasersquad> example: :!echo buffer_text <maxolasersquad> s/VM/vim <tiemonster> maxolasersquad: echo "hi" | vi - <tiemonster> is that what you're trying to do? <maxolasersquad> If my current screen had simply one line "Hello" then I'd like to be able to, for example, wc "Hello" <maxolasersquad> That example is kind of contrived, but is the kind of thing I would like to do. <maxolasersquad> More specifically, I have shell scripts that will run commands on our various Oracle Databases. <maxolasersquad> So I can say: nmsdev "SELECT * FROM foo;" <tiemonster> you want to edit the contents of the stdout in vim, though, right? <maxolasersquad> That will run that query on our nmsdev database. <maxolasersquad> I'd like to be able to write more complext Oracle command in vm, and then execute them. <tiemonster> oh <maxolasersquad> !nmsdev buffer_conetns <tiemonster> so you want to do bash command line editing in vim? <maxolasersquad> Ultimately, I want to be able to run SQL and PL/SQL from vim. <tiemonster> I don't know of a way to do it without saving the final command to a file <tiemonster> you could do this, for example: vi command && nmsdev "`cat command`" <tiemonster> That would have the benefit of saving the command in a file for future editing <maxolasersquad> Saving it to a file may ultimately be what I have to do. <tiemonster> it seems of more utility as well, if I understand the problem <maxolasersquad> In my dream world vi could be my Oracle IDE. <tiemonster> :-) <tiemonster> there is a way to run command line applications from within vi <tiemonster> so if you saved the file and then ran that argument from within vi, you could get that result <tiemonster> http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/57727 <tiemonster> see the section called "Bang!" <maxolasersquad> Thanks <tiemonster> no prob <tiemonster> glad I could help <maxolasersquad> I just need to rewrite my scripts to accept file names. <maxolasersquad> brb <tiemonster> the bang method doesn't require you to save the file, does it? <tiemonster> oh, yes it does <tiemonster> still, though <Kristofer> ÐÐ¾Ð±ÑÑÐ¹ Ð²ÐµÑÐµÑ Ð²ÑÐµÐ¼! #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-03 <mhall119> woot! <mhall119> new Qimo launcher being written: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2295/xdglauncher.png <crashsystems1> Nice <X-Man89> (sw) <dorgan> hello all <n3gbz> cold in PA; can't wait to get back to FL; hello all <dorgan> anyone in here using percona xtrabackup for myql backups? #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-04 <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping <Quantum> hi <mhall119> crashsystems1: mind if I use part of your pyinotify script for a school project? <crashsystems1> mhall119: feel free to use that script however you want. If there is even enough original material in there to be considered under copyright, I consider it to be under gpl 3 #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-05 <mhall119> crashsystems1: it's only the inotify setup lines that's still there <ShawnR> anyone here good with synclient settings for touchpads? #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-06 <ShawnR> ok, i hope someone can help me <ShawnR> my terminal window i'm in now is the only thing responding in gnome <ShawnR> i can switch to tty1 or whatever the ctrl+alt+F1 stuff is and work fine, but I can't switch to any other window, and my mouse won't change from the text input I bar <ShawnR> I checked top and nothing is even taking more than 1% <dorgan> hello all <itnet7> ShawnR: were you right in the middle of workong on something? If not, and you can get to ctrl+alt+f1 you can type: sudo service gdm restart (assuming you're running gnome). <ShawnR> itnet7: i was in the middle of something in inkscape <ShawnR> does restarting gdm kill all windows i guess? I killed the gnome-session, which prolly did the same thinge <itnet7> ShawnR: man... sorry to hear that <itnet7> yes <ShawnR> s'ok, luckily wasn't too much <ShawnR> i later went in and turned on auto-save... lol <ShawnR> i did pretty good, my first time using inkscape other than to do fancy text in a video editor <ShawnR> made a logo for my wife's "company" (selling crocheted and other crafty type items) <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: I'm about to hit the rack need something? <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Talk with you in the Morning. <RoAkSoAx> itnet7 just wanted to say hi have a good one dude <reya276> Morning Everyone <maxolasersquad> reya276: Good morning! <jgdovin> hola all <jgdovin> ive got a little issue im trying to figure out <tiemonster> what's that? <jgdovin> I set up an internal ubuntu server so i can set up a testing environment at work, and also run an internal time clock to get them off of paper punch cards <jgdovin> i had it set up behind our untangle server and was having some issues so i moved it to connect directly to our router and it cannot get outside access <tiemonster> DNS is set up properly? <jgdovin> I have tried doing a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces as well as dhcp <jgdovin> when i try to ping google.com it says unkown host right away, so i guess my dns is fudged up <jgdovin> how are you doin btw tiemonster? I havent been in here in a while <DammitJim> can one do HTTPS over a port other than 443? <DammitJim> that should be no problem even with certificates, right? <tiemonster> jgdovin: yes, DNS is jacked up. that's your problem. I'm ok. <tiemonster> u? <tiemonster> DammitJim: with proper configuration, yes <tiemonster> it's common for high-security applications <DammitJim> configuration where? <tiemonster> apache <DammitJim> ok, on the webserver... got it <DammitJim> I thought we were running out of public IP addresses in the world... I guess not <tiemonster> so the url would look like https://example.com:9000/ for example <tiemonster> and you would change the SSL.conf to read Listen 9000 instead of Listen 443 <DammitJim> these developers make up services with different internal IP addressess as if there was no tomorrow <jgdovin> tiemonster: any suggestions on where to start looking? Its a simple set up really.. its just a cable modem coming in to a linksys wrt54g router, then that goes to our switch.. but the server is plugged into the wrt54g <DammitJim> ok, that I have done... just wasn't sure about the certificate part <tiemonster> jgdovin: pastebin your ifconfig output <jgdovin> DammitJim: the certificate should just be serving that its secure no matter what port <tiemonster> DammitJim: port isn't on the certificate <DammitJim> got it <jgdovin> apache tells you wether its a secure port or not <tiemonster> !seen MichelleQ <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: MichelleQ was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 2 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <MichelleQ> Do we have a meeting tonight? <tiemonster> !seen MichelleQ1 <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: MichelleQ1 was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 5 days, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <MichelleQ1> Morning, y'all. <tiemonster> well hmph <jgdovin> wow she hasnt been around in a while <jgdovin> tiemonster: http://pastebin.com/W07m3578 <jgdovin> and heres my interfaces file <jgdovin> http://pastebin.com/BVmppqaT <tiemonster> jgdovin: see if you can ping (930)970-5854 <jgdovin> yes i can <tiemonster> oh I always have trouble with static IP <jgdovin> lol <tiemonster> that's definitely the problem, though <jgdovin> well i changed it to dhcp and restarted the networking service <jgdovin> and it keeps the same ip address <tiemonster> and? <jgdovin> and same problems <jgdovin> lol <tiemonster> does it work? <jgdovin> is there something else i have to do to flush it? <tiemonster> unknown host when pinging google.com? <jgdovin> hmm wait one.. <jgdovin> maybe that time it actually grabbed a new ip <jgdovin> gotta go check server room <jgdovin> argh... <jgdovin> so i restarted the networking service <jgdovin> and i couldnt connect <jgdovin> went and checked ifconfig and eth0 was down <tiemonster> nice <jgdovin> so i did ifconfig eth0 up <jgdovin> and it has same ip :/ <jgdovin> http://pastebin.com/yAsK0qWM <jgdovin> thats correct right? <tiemonster> yeah <tiemonster> how are you restarting networking? <jgdovin> i was using /etc/init.d/networking restart <jgdovin> so I went to the termninal <jgdovin> it said to use service <jgdovin> so I tried that <jgdovin> when i try service network start it says networking start/waiting <jgdovin> if i try to stop it says unknown instance <jgdovin> same with restart and force-reload <jgdovin> i think im just gonna reinstall the darn thing. lol <tiemonster> try restarting <tiemonster> not reinstalling <jgdovin> ok <jgdovin> one sec <jgdovin> shut it all the way down <jgdovin> started back up <jgdovin> same.. service network start gives me... stop/waiting <jgdovin> restart, start, force-reload say uknown instance <jgdovin> i mean service networking <jgdovin> and eth0 is down <tiemonster> and the only configuration file you changed was interfaces? <jgdovin> yea <tiemonster> check it again <jgdovin> only one i really knew about <tiemonster> !seen mhall119 <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: mhall119 was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 1 day, 13 hours, 24 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <mhall119> crashsystems1: it's only the inotify setup lines that's still there <MichelleQ1> he's on his way to work <tiemonster> k <tiemonster> trying to decide if $60 for a hotel is worth it for the party, or if I should drain myself driving back at midnight <jgdovin> tiemonster: interfaces looks the same <MichelleQ1> tiemonster: go with the room <tiemonster> jgdovin: don't know then. sorry. <jgdovin> i dont think it matters that i was editing it with nano <jgdovin> heard some people had problems editing with nano <jgdovin> lol its ok tiemonster. Im gonna try a fresh install, see how that goes <jgdovin> that or go back to 10.04 never had a problem with that <tiemonster> I always have these problems when setting up static IP <tiemonster> I always seem to figure it out <jgdovin> yea but going back to dhcp should reverse it all. lmao <jgdovin> i'll keep debugging on the clock :-D <jgdovin> trying to save the ops manager some time, he has to add up everyones times every week. so stupid <tiemonster> MichelleQ1: wait, the party is only an hour long? <tiemonster> is this loco or personal? <tiemonster> guess I should PM that... <jgdovin> since when do ubuntu parties ever last just an hour <jgdovin> :-p <tiemonster> that's why I'm asking... <jgdovin> :-D <mhall119> tiemonster: did you get an answer from her? <tiemonster> no <tiemonster> mhall119: no <jgdovin> hi mhall119!!! <amouge_work> tiemonster: i have no patience today.. started a reinstall :-) <tiemonster> k <amouge_work> its monday, im at work, and dont feel like playing around. So anyway, hows the fl ubuntu loco doing? <mhall119> doing well <amouge_work> glad to hear :) <mhall119> mostly recovered from UDS <mhall119> though my ToDo list is still large <amouge_work> my todo list spans in to the 22nd century <MichelleQ1> tiemonster: you talking about the 18th? <amouge_work> just started a new job, they manage thousands of different items, 6 databases for online stores sharing same inventory, and They want an inventory system built by christmas.. <mhall119> amouge[work]: nothing pays like rush work <amouge[work]> mhall119: too bad its hourly <amouge[work]> and not as much as i'd even like lol <amouge[work]> but its steady money <amouge[work]> tampa's rough right now finding a 40 hour a week tech job <mhall119> well, that's better than nothing right? <amouge[work]> exactly :) <mhall119> amouge[work]: know any python? <amouge[work]> mhall119: very very little <mhall119> php or java? <amouge[work]> I started learning it along side of django <amouge[work]> mhall119: php is my primary <amouge[work]> and im learning ruby and eventually will go back to python <amouge[work]> right now my focus is getting mongo DB under my belt <mhall119> hmmm, I got some php positions sent to me, but they're in Orlando <amouge[work]> orlando is a bit far for me. plus its rough because i freelanced for like 4 years <amouge[work]> and most companies want people with experience in a company, thats why i took this. <amouge[work]> stay here for a year or 2 and then i have an actual full time coding position in my resume <amouge[work]> for a decent size company <mhall119> msg call Scott Goldstein at (930)970-5854 <mhall119> amouge[work]: ^^ <mhall119> he's a recruiter in Tampa, got my a couple of good jobs in the past <mhall119> he might have some php openings <amouge[work]> hmm ok <amouge[work]> I'll look into him. im sceptic of recruiters <amouge[work]> last one screwed me over, i was offered two jobs since i got here 3 weeks ago. lol. <mhall119> so far Princeton has been the best recruiters I've worked with <amouge[work]> one by the guy that came in to familiarize me with the system since he built it 3 years ago, and another for fedex integration. <amouge[work]> fedex i dont wanna even think about.. i'd hate writing a hacked up vb every day <mhall119> they offer good pay and good benefits <mhall119> you can usually choose between hourly and salary <tiemonster> MichelleQ: all sorted <amouge[work]> cool, I'll look into them. Last recruiter I used gave me 20 an hour and charged the client 45 an hour, they used me for one project and said they couldnt afford it, they then went on to use me as a freelance under the table for a while <amouge[work]> recruiter told me i needed to lower my rate if i wanted to continue working there <mhall119> most will take around 40% of what the client is paying <tiemonster> amouge[work]: eek <mhall119> that's pretty standard <tiemonster> this is why I'm a salaryman <mhall119> some take upwards of 60% <amouge[work]> yea.. 60% is rediculous though. espeically if she had lowered hers to like 15 an hour for her pay, she woulda kept making money <mhall119> but Princeton gets good paying positions, around $30-$40/hr <amouge[work]> and she wasnt even offering benefits <amouge[work]> she got 25/hour that i worked just to do my timesheet every week <mhall119> they also pay taxes <amouge[work]> is princeton where that scott guy is? <mhall119> amouge[work]: yeah <amouge[work]> cool <mhall119> at least he was still there last time I heard from him <amouge[work]> I keep getting emails from some place called... veredus corp, they recruit in the area too <amouge[work]> i get calls occasionally telling me they have a position for me <mhall119> yeah, veredus is big <mhall119> I've not worked for them though <amouge[work]> i'll check out princeton since you suggested them, Im less weary if someone recommends them <amouge[work]> just dont wanna get screwed <amouge[work]> it is amazing though to see that ive been trying to get a full time job for the last year, now that i have it ive had 2 more offers in 3 weeks <mhall119> they got me 2 jobs, the second one went permanent <amouge[work]> awesome <amouge[work]> its nice, i was starting to get writers block of sorts as a freelancer. working from home always being there wears you down. <amouge[work]> My creativity has come back and im starting to enjoy it like I did when I first started <DammitJim> why can't I reach public IP addresses that I own from inside my network? Is that normal? <amouge[work]> reinstalling fixed the problem :D <amouge[work]> now to try static <amouge[work]> yay! I can ping google.com with static ip setup. woohoo <zoopster> DammitJim: it's normal if your trying to go out and come back on a non-routable address <zoopster> DammitJim: but with a proper firewall config, it *should* not be a problem unless it's viewed as a security issue <crashsystems1> Someone mention me recently? This tab was highlighted, but my logs don't go back for <crashsystems1> Far* <mhall119> crashsystems1: it was me <crashsystems1> Hello <mhall119> was just replying about the inotify code <crashsystems1> Ok * crashsystems1 wishes he had time to get a breakfast burrito <amouge[work]> crashsystems1: there is always time for breakfast burritos! <crashsystems1> Work might disagree <amouge[work]> hehe. oh, i have people to go get stuff like that for me ;D <crashsystems1> Oh well, I'll have coffee and cereal at the office <amouge[work]> wtf? my right parentheses isnt working on this computer <crashsystems1> Nice <amouge[work]> and I know its not the keyboard cause i have synergy set up... and it works fine on the other computer same keyboard. weird as crap! <crashsystems1> Hash browns sound good too this morning <amouge[work]> mmm <amouge[work]> I actually was so hungry i ate my subway that was meant for lunch <crashsystems1> Lol <amouge[work]> tuna in the morning is probably not a good idea <crashsystems1> Very true <mhall119> zoopster: got lunch plans? <DammitJim> thanks zoopster <DammitJim> what do you mean by a non routable address? <DammitJim> it's an address I can get to from the outside <zoopster> mhall119: yea unfortunately today is trashed <mhall119> ok, another day then <zoopster> DammitJim: non routable address is one that routers drop...10. for 24 bit block 172.16 for the 20 bit block, and 192.168 for the 16 bit block <zoopster> DammitJim: I think the ipv6 arch has a similar concept, but I don't know what it is <amouge[work]> wow freaking weird.. all of the sudden i cant get to our hosting company or any of our websites, but according to downforeveryoneorjustme.com all the sites are up <jimmah> dantalizing: here I am from webos...wheeee <amouge[work]> lol <ImitatingReality> Hello folks. <ImitatingReality> Hmm. Dead in here. <amouge[work]> shhh.. we are napping <zoopster> ImitatingReality: it's not really <zoopster> wow...it's already 2p I just started working it seems and I started at 0530 <ImitatingReality> *yawn* <ImitatingReality> I got up late <ImitatingReality> but i went to bed late. <ImitatingReality> having fun working zoopster <ImitatingReality> ? <amouge[work]> lol my day is flying by too <amouge[work]> now if i can smack samba in to being a bit quicker <zoopster> yes ImitatingReality having fun <zoopster> there is only one way to work you know...if you don't like it, don't do it! <ImitatingReality> yup <amouge[work]> zoopster: True :) <ImitatingReality> mmm... ice cream... <zoopster> anyone pick up the cyanogenmod 6.1 update? <amouge[work]> argh.. wtf? <zoopster> dantalizing: ?? * ImitatingReality smacks computer <ImitatingReality> I can't even download the upgrades. <zoopster> ImitatingReality: for cyanogenmod? <ImitatingReality> no <zoopster> or just ubuntu <ImitatingReality> for ubuntu <zoopster> well that stinks <zoopster> mirror issue? <ImitatingReality> im stuck in 9.4 kubuntu <ImitatingReality> yes <ImitatingReality> I tried to download the security updates and whatnot but the package thing crashed <amouge[work]> anyone good with samba? <amouge[work]> nvm got it :) <ImitatingReality> I tried to download the security updates and whatnot but the package thing crashed <ImitatingReality> agh <ImitatingReality> arrow keys... -_- <ImitatingReality> it doesnt help i havent been using computers in a while so its like all my computer knowledge leaked out of my head <ImitatingReality> ah well. i give up. <zoopster> ImitatingReality: go to a terminal prompt and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and that will do it all for you. <amouge[work]> anyone really familiar with pear problems? <amouge[work]> I cant get apache to recognize pear is installed.. but cli sees it fine... <amouge[work]> ran a test script in browser and in cli using php test2.php <amouge[work]> cli returns pass, browser returns fail when i try to require('PEAR.php'); <reya276> hey I have a nook(older B&W) and I want to get books from Google Book Store but it says I need this 'eReader library management software' is this available for Ubuntu <reya276> take a look here http://books.google.com/help/ebooks/ereader.html <mhall119> reya276: calibre might do what you need <mhall119> http://calibre-ebook.com/ <reya276> oh I have that already <amouge[work]> argh gonna shoot myself over this pear crap <reya276> but why would I need that it says all I have to do is put it in my nook directory and done, but I see what you mean in case it does not read the format I can use this to convert it <reya276> PEAR <reya276> PHP PEAR <amouge[work]> yea php pear :/ <reya276> shooting one self is not a very good Idea <amouge[work]> awwww your no fun <reya276> but if it makes you happy go for it, LOL <amouge[work]> jee thanks :-p <amouge[work]> lol <amouge[work]> i just wanna test out this stupid freaking time clock script to see if it will work for our needs. so annoying <reya276> did you install the PEAR modules for apache and PHP from the repositories <reya276> I too had issues getting PEAR to work without Webmail Server and EgroupWare, it turned out I did not have the modules for PEAR installed <reya276> *with our <amouge[work]> hmm.. dunno about the apache modules <reya276> yeah, take a look and make sure they are active/installed <amouge[work]> isnt it just called php-pear ? <reya276> this is for Web base programming right <amouge[work]> yes <reya276> one sec, let me look at my apache config <itnet7> reya276: The site says you need digital editions to download the actual e-book. The acsm file that you originally downloaded when you purchased the e-book is like a digital receipt that grants you the ability to get the download the actual .pdf or epub formatted book through digital edtions. Holy DRM Batman!. <amouge[work]> lol <reya276> LOL <reya276> oh so I should not buy books from google, I don't think I have a choice is not like any other seller has zero DRM <reya276> I rather support Google than Amazon or BN <itnet7> I'll bet the Adobe Digitial Editions will rely upon .net so you probably won't be able run it in wine <reya276> but whatever I guess in this DRM world is all the same right <itnet7> I think it might be better for you to get the books straight from the publisher if possible <itnet7> O'reilley books do not at this point seem to contain DRM, and you can directly download .pdf's I believe <reya276> well I get them from BN right now since I have a Nook the only issue is that I can't sync to my PC because BN does not have a Desktop software for Ubuntu, Only WinJunk/MAC <reya276> Why I don't understand is why Google does not come up with a desktop ap for Ubuntu as is the most popular desktop dist for nix <reya276> DRM or not <amouge[work]> you think my problem could be with permissions? <reya276> at this point I can care less, it has gotten to the point that you can't get anything without it <amouge[work]> cause im running php cli as root <itnet7> Chuck and I have successfully used Calibre to sideload books, not sure about synching with purchased books. Make sure you're using the latest calibre though if you notice any issues with your device appearing <reya276> music on some stores <amouge[work]> to test the script <amouge[work]> and if so, whats the workaround on that? :-D <itnet7> the standard delivered calibre continued giving me errors with the Sony E-reader I have. <itnet7> the nook was recognized immediately <itnet7> even with the standard version included in the repos <itnet7> not delivered, sorry <itnet7> but upgrading to the latest allowed for the sony device to be seen, and gave me some really cool added features <amouge[work]> [Mon Dec 06 15:43:23 2010] [warn] [client (930)970-5854] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'System.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/clients/client1/web2/web/test2.php on line 2 <amouge[work]> i guess thats a permissions problem? <itnet7> reya276: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-701191.html <reya276> it seems though you are missing this System.php <reya276> so it could an issue with the PEAR version that you are using <amouge[work]> [Mon Dec 06 15:43:23 2010] [warn] [client (930)970-5854] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Warning: require_once(/usr/share/php/System.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in /var/www/clients/client1/web2/web/test2.php on line 2 <amouge[work]> reya276: the same exact script is returning true through CLI php <amouge[work]> so its working in cli <reya276> amouge[work], right that is not a permission thing it is actually saying that it can't find System.php <amouge[work]> reya276: but it can find it when in cli? I checked the php.ini for both, and made sure the include_path was identical <reya276> that does not make sense because according to the first error you posted it says you are missing and inclue which points to system.php <amouge[work]> im just tellign you... I did a require_once('System.php'); echo 'true'; <reya276> It could be a permission issue, sometimes PHP is not the best scripting language in terms of error debugging <amouge[work]> in cli it gets the true, so no fatal error <amouge[work]> in browser it dies and doesnt output anything <amouge[work]> :/ so frustrating <itnet7> Adobe at the least should have made ADE an adobe air app <reya276> oh ok then what are the permission assigned to system.php or the file which is calling the function <tiemonster> amouge[work]: permissions need to match user/group for apache <amouge[work]> the include path is owned by root <tiemonster> so either apply more liberal permissions, or chown to the same user:group as apache <amouge[work]> which is the default <reya276> are running this from the user directory such as public_html? <tiemonster> defaults never work <tiemonster> wait - what? <tiemonster> root? <reya276> or are you running it from /var/www <amouge[work]> reya276: ive got it set up so everything is served from /var/www <tiemonster> bad idea <reya276> ok in Apache you can set up a module where you can create all your web apps to run from your Home directory such as /home/username/public_html/ <amouge[work]> tiemonster: its an internal server with no access to the outside <tiemonster> because permission problems are going to force you to either run apache as root (terrible idea), or chown /var/www to www-user (worse) <reya276> ok so from /var/www <reya276> then you will have to give it the correct permissions to run correctly <tiemonster> I usually create /home/www and chown it to www-user, setting this as the document root <tiemonster> then all will be well <reya276> I think it is usually 644 or 755 can't remember which one <tiemonster> amouge[work]: doesn't matter <tiemonster> reya276: that won't solve the problem <amouge[work]> tiemonster: hrm.. damn thats gonna change a lot cause i installed ispconfig to play with it too <reya276> tiemonster, right that way I don't have to worry about the permissions thing <amouge[work]> and it puts everything in /var/www <amouge[work]> lol <tiemonster> /var/www was made for static files * amouge[work] smacks him self in the face <tiemonster> not PHP applications <tiemonster> I wouldn't recommend changing the permissions of that folder <tiemonster> but you can certainly do it <reya276> well ok then you can't change the permissions to your script, or why don't you just make wwwdata the owner <tiemonster> you could also just chown it to www-user or whatever <reya276> this way everything will run with the correct permissions <reya276> www-data <amouge[work]> i tried chown 'ing /var/www to www-data <reya276> then that should have worked, did you tried doing it sudo chown -R /var/www/appdir www-data <amouge[work]> lrwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 30 2010-12-06 14:03 time.pnsnow.com <tiemonster> you'll have to change the group as well <amouge[work]> ive been messing with all kinds of things <reya276> this way www-data will own everything within the /appdir <amouge[work]> drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data 4096 2010-12-06 14:55 www <tiemonster> don't know what to tell ya <tiemonster> amouge[work]: did you do it recursively? <amouge[work]> tiemonster: yes sir <amouge[work]> :/ <tiemonster> man, crap luck today. <tiemonster> oh yeah - it's Monday <amouge[work]> lol yup <reya276> yeah that is very weird, it should have worked <reya276> what is it exactly that the script is suppose to do? <amouge[work]> reya276: right now im just running a test to try and include either PEAR.php or System.php both included in a pear install <amouge[work]> both work through cli <amouge[work]> the script im trying to install is an internal timeclock <amouge[work]> so that the boss doesnt manually add time anymore <reya276> Oh on another topic does anyone know if there is a lightscribe package to write on LightScribe CDs/DVDs <amouge[work]> reya276: like a program for doing that? as opposed to drivers? <reya276> then dude that Chown -R should have worked <amouge[work]> reya276: have you tried lightscribe simple labeler? <reya276> just for testing sakes try giving those files 777 perm <reya276> and see what happens <amouge[work]> the /var/www ? <amouge[work]> or the /usr dir? <reya276> no to the /appdir where your script is located <amouge[work]> lol thats what i thought <reya276> your web app structure should be /var/www/web_app_dir <amouge[work]> failure <reya276> man that is weird <reya276> ok do you have the "authz_user" module enabled? <reya276> and the "env" module enabled? <reya276> and the "autoindex" module enabled? <reya276> and just in case also enabled your "userdir" module too <amouge[work]> i assume that would show up in phpinfo() <amouge[work]> k i enabled all <amouge[work]> the only one not enabled was userdir <amouge[work]> still no fix <amouge[work]> im getting this when i restart apache btw <amouge[work]> Warning: SuexecUserGroup directive requires SUEXEC wrapper. * amouge[work] sighs <amouge[work]> k fixed the warning <amouge[work]> but no fix for problem. lmao <reya276> amouge[work], damn dude sorry but at this point I'm not sure what is wrong <amouge[work]> its cool im testing some other theories <reya276> hey is there a way I can install a 32bit software .deb on my 64bit OS <amouge[work]> heading home all. <reya276> I know there is something about force something <reya276> or other.... <amouge[away]> http://www.unixtutorial.org/2008/03/install-32-bit-deb-packages-on-64-bit/ <amouge[away]> later <reya276> thanks <reya276> ah man total failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/540441/ <cjohnston> do be do <ShawnR> anyone know why L3 cache would be disabled in BIOS for a Xeon processor? <mhall119> do xeons have l3 cache? <ShawnR> mhall119: some do i think... i know newer ones do <mhall119> oh, I didn't know xeons were still being made <ShawnR> and i honestly don't know which ones these are... got a dual Xeon 2.0ghz 2u server from my uncle, playing with it now <ShawnR> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117187 <ShawnR> looks like that one might be it, with 4MB shared L3 <ShawnR> at least... i'm hoping that is the right one #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-07 <klutz> does anyone know how to slow down the burn speed to 1 or 2? option defalts back to 4X when I set it to 1 or 2... <klutz> k3B sorry <klutz> does anyone know how to slow down the burn speed to 1 or 2? option defalts back to 4X when I set it to 1 or 2... using k3B <mhall119> itnet7: did you meet the gov today? <chattr> klutz: use wodim in terminal with speed=0 or speed=2 or speed=4 ? ( =0 will default to the lowest possible for the drive and medium) <itnet7> mhall119: the gov? <itnet7> he came to Melbourne? <mhall119> itnet7: he came to Harris, according to Facebook <itnet7> lol, well... He didn't swing over to our Project :-) <itnet7> They are probably hiding us <mhall119> too liberal <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: o/ dude!! how's it going!!? long time <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: how are you? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: i'm good... finally done with school completely!! <itnet7> Wow!!! <itnet7> You've finished your MBA, Congrats!!!! <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: MsC in Telecom & Networking actually!! lol <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: anyway, how's it been going for ya? <RoAkSoAx> \/win 12 <itnet7> Not too bad, trying to keep my head above water! <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: how's work? <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: not that great <itnet7> It would be seriously nice if teachers could put out vocabulary words in .pdf format for middleschool <itnet7> bbl <ShawnR> gah, so i was going to attempt installing centos on a new server of mine, but it doesn't seem to want to boot. time to get 10.10 server :) <ShawnR> so i feel like an idiot <ShawnR> i was guessing the xeons were 64-bit, but they are ONE generation shy of the 64-bit xeons <amouge[work]> morning all <reya276> Morning Everyone <reya276> Has anyone used or heard of the Hudson project/tools <amouge[work]> reya276: negative <DammitJim> morning <tiemonster> reya276: yes <reya276> what is it? <tiemonster> reya276: continuous integration <tiemonster> builds your project on a schedule or per commit <tiemonster> runs unit tests and checks for errors <tiemonster> you get a green, yellow, or red light per build <tiemonster> it allows you to continually know the state of stability of a software project <tiemonster> you can even set it up to e-mail insults to the person responsible for breaking the build <tiemonster> ;-) <reya276> tiemonster, thanks <tiemonster> delayed reaction? <reya276> yes I need some coffee <reya276> trying to put out too many fires, just too early for all of this <reya276> Hey is there a way to block contacts on Empathy IM? <maxolasersquad> reya276: It doesn't look like it. :( <reya276> man that sucks, cause for some reason these damn fem bots on Yahoo IM are targeting my Acct. the funny thing is that this is a Brand new IM account <reya276> how are these people getting my acct. <reya276> no one and I mean no one has this acct. except for the people here at work <maxolasersquad> Dictionary attack, or by seeing that handle used elsewhere, possibly. <maxolasersquad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/411898 <maxolasersquad> According to it, the feature should be available in Maverick. <maxolasersquad> Maybe someone else here can confirm or deny that. <reya276> I bet Fedora users have it <reya276> lol <maxolasersquad> I'm not seeing that feature in my Natty VM. <maxolasersquad> I can't wrap my brain brain around Ubuntu not having aptitude instfaul. <maxolasersquad> s/instfaul/installed by defaul/ <zoopster> maxolasersquad: what feature...I came late to the party <zoopster> maxolasersquad: the dev's want you to use ubuntu software center for everything...it's still in the default seed for ubuntu server I think <itnet7> maxolasersquad: doesn't that bug discuss disabling logging of conversations. I think that reya276 is referring to when you log in to empathy and there are like 3 invitations from Yahoo IM accounts requesting conversations with you <itnet7> You're asked if you want to accept the chat invitation, and are presented with 3 options. Later, Yes, and No... In Pidgin, you can easily block requests from everyone that you haven't added in your buddy list, so you never see those requests once you set your security right. <zoopster> itnet7: heh...I just disabled yahoo <itnet7> zoopster: yeah, you can do that, but it kind of isn't good for people that have friends that only happen to have yahoo im <pak33m> hehe in bitlbee i just say "no" <pak33m> hey itnet7 :) <itnet7> pak33m: agreed, but bitlbee isn't the default IM :-) <itnet7> how are you pak33m ? <pak33m> doing alright. moving slowly. <itnet7> Ah! <pak33m> moving equaling my feet <itnet7> Oh... wow <itnet7> what happened? Are you okay? <pak33m> im fine <pak33m> :) <pak33m> anybody else dist-upgrade to natty from maverick with unity already installed? <zoopster> itnet7: true <itnet7> zoopster: I can just imagine a kid using empathy by default and having the facebook mentality and adding accounts, it could get ugly fast <itnet7> pak33m: not I <itnet7> bbiab lunch <pak33m> its no biggie. unity never launches after i login. when i switch to ubuntu classic desktop it goes back to gnome-panel. <pak33m> oh well time to look for bugs <reya276> itnet7, yes that is exactly what I'm talking about. These people I don't even know want me to add them to my IM, one how did they get my name and two How can I block these people <DammitJim> that's me, reya276 ... don't worry <DammitJim> let me add you ;) <reya276> DammitJim, lol you got jokes <reya276> is there a place where I can download the UBUNTU 10.04 LTS 64bit server edition, the ISO for Ubuntu.com is crazy slow <tiemonster> usf mirror, or ga tech <tiemonster> http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/ <tiemonster> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/ <reya276> tiemonster, thanks <tiemonster> reya276: you're welcome <DammitJim> can one do an ls of a directory that has only files accessible for another user? <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: Could you rephrase that? You want to do an ls on a directory, and only get files listed back that are readable for a certain user? <DammitJim> I am wondering if I have a directory with a couple of files that I have access to and other files that I don't have access to <DammitJim> would I only see mine? <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: If you have r permissions on a folder, you can see all files in that folder. <maxolasersquad> Even if you have neither r or w privileges on the file. <DammitJim> got it <DammitJim> thanks <maxolasersquad> np <DammitJim> what would su -c sh do? <mhall119> runs sh as root <mhall119> specifically on Ubuntu it'll run "/bin/bash -c sh", which will give you a dash shell running as root <maxolasersquad> Has anyone heard the likelihood of Libre Office shipping in Natty? <mhall119> jamal rocking the Unity! http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/12/07/unity-bitesize-bug-report-for-7-december/ <MichelleQ1> jamal: congrats, dude. <jamal> MichelleQ1: huh? <jamal> oh about the unity post? <jamal> thanks :) <MichelleQ1> yep <MichelleQ1> :D #ubuntu-us-fl 2010-12-08 <mhall119> itnet7: meeting tonight? <himuraken> mhall119, was wondering the same here... <mhall119> there's no agenda <mhall119> if anybody wants to have the meeting I'll chair it, otherwise we'll wait until the next one <itnet7> Here now sorry <itnet7> I didn't get a reminder on my phone, and we were trimming the tree :-) <mhall119> no problem <mhall119> I don't think we've got anything going on <itnet7> No one has added any agenda itmes <mhall119> motion to early adjourn <itnet7> sounds good to me <itnet7> crazy holidays :-P <himuraken> Cool, take it easy yall. <X-Man> good evening <itnet7> X-Man culb thanks for joining, but since no one has added any agenda items we have cancelled the meeting <itnet7> How are you X-Man ? <itnet7> ttyl himuraken ! <X-Man> itnet7, good getting ready to flash my samsung vibrant the rom came out yesterday <X-Man> itnet7, I see you have been doing more geocaching <itnet7> X-Man: what version of Anroid will that get you to? <X-Man> 2.2 <itnet7> X-Man: yes a lot lately <itnet7> Nice!! <X-Man> itnet7, are you going to the uds in hungry/ <itnet7> I actually drove down to sebastian over the weekend and found my first FTF (First to find) <itnet7> it was really cool! <X-Man> itnet7, very nice <itnet7> Do you geocache where you live? <itnet7> I have 90 finds <X-Man> itnet7, I haven't but there is a lot of it, we have a national forest in our area with alot if finds <itnet7> X-Man: you live in J-ville right? <X-Man> itnet7, Tallahassee <itnet7> Wow! <itnet7> There is one that I had wanted to do over that way for my 100 <X-Man> itnet7, it needs to get a little warmer for me to get out, it was 34 this morning <itnet7> Whoa! <X-Man> a few weeks ago it was a nice 70 degrees <itnet7> They say it's supposed to be like a yo yo in the next couple of upcoming weeks <X-Man> itnet7, If you come up and do that find, let me know and I will go with you <itnet7> Oh, sweet, it's a little further NW than tallahassee even <itnet7> I am trying to find a link for it now <X-Man> itnet7, which IRC client do you use? <X-Man> itnet7, is the find still in Florida? <itnet7> Yes <itnet7> I should have written it down <itnet7> X-Man: found it: http://coord.info/GC20YZQ <X-Man> itnet7, I looked it up, it is in Niceville, It said to have found 99 find before doing the Niceville one, Why is that? <itnet7> Just because they wanted it to be a milestone cache <itnet7> If you do it for you #100 and can prove it by the screenshotting the stat page, they'll add your name to the list <X-Man> cool <itnet7> Yeah, kind of neat! <itnet7> You could still go with me, they just won't give you smiley until your over 99 finds <X-Man> I see <itnet7> Pretty darn far though! <itnet7> 391 miles <itnet7> from here <X-Man> yeah it is like 2 hours from here <itnet7> Wow! <itnet7> I can do it at anytime after my 99, so perhaps if you decide to get back into it, and get up there in numbers I can visit and we can do it <itnet7> not try to pressure you btw <itnet7> trying * <itnet7> Good going jamal ! <jamal> itnet7: thanks :) <itnet7> even britta got photo credits :-) <X-Man> good night all <itnet7> gnight X-Man ! <itnet7> ttys <jamal> banshee will be the default music player for natty? <mhall119> jamal: yup <mhall119> which means Mono is sticking around in the default install for the forseable future <DammitJim> who has a rooted android phone? <himuraken> DammitJim, i <DammitJim> himuraken, can you check for wpa_supplicant.conf in your /data/misc/wifi folder, please? <himuraken> Sec <DammitJim> I want to make sure that file is there <DammitJim> 'su' of course! <himuraken> ....mounting <DammitJim> mounting???? <himuraken> was plugging in phone <DammitJim> oh ok <himuraken> So its on flash not sd eh? <himuraken> sec then. <DammitJim> I guess that's easier than using terminal on the phone <DammitJim> :D <himuraken> Yeha that was my thought <DammitJim> I think /data is in flash <himuraken> mount only shows sd <himuraken> sec checking term <DammitJim> I would do <DammitJim> su <DammitJim> cd /data <DammitJim> cd misc <DammitJim> cd wifi <DammitJim> cat wpa_supplicant.conf <DammitJim> or from adb <DammitJim> find / -name 'wifi' <himuraken> no misc sub <himuraken> standby searching <DammitJim> k, thanks <DammitJim> what rom are you running? <himuraken> Yeah I have the supplicant.conf <himuraken> cyanogen. <himuraken> Wow thats openly readable (scary) <himuraken> Need anything else DammitJim ? <himuraken> PM if you want me to try anything else for you DammitJim <DammitJim> thank you <DammitJim> what directory was wpa_supplicant.conf in? <himuraken> DammitJim, /data/misc/wifi/ on flash <chattr> about t minus 35 minutes for SpaceX Falcon 9 launch <reya276> Morning Everyone <chattr> hey, reya276. Falcon 9 launch countdown aborted at t minus 2:50, clock is reset to t minus 13 and holding <reya276> word! <reya276> ok I have no clue what that is, is the US launching something <reya276> and no one told me Darn it <chattr> SpaceX private company launch. <reya276> oh ok, cool. Where is it going? <chattr> first private company into orbit <chattr> http://www.spacex.com/webcast.php <reya276> Mars, a Satellite etc.... <reya276> cool, thanks <reya276> Nice, I like the website looks kinda like Space.com <chattr> it'll attempt to orbit the Dragon reusable spacecraft. Dragon may in future resupply the space station and carry crew <reya276> wow that is a pretty big rocket for it being a private company and all <chattr> still financed by taxpayers atm. future, who knows? <reya276> oh that would be awesome as they can actually make this usable, meaning expanding and or rebuilding the space station <reya276> well but at least NASA is not running the show <chattr> NASA at KSC has been very hard hit recently <chattr> I'm about 75 miles north of KSC, btw <reya276> They keep too many secrets from us, to find out what I'm talking about you have to read a book called "Dark Mission" by Richard C. Hogland <chattr> no, haven't heard of it, actually <chattr> sorry, misunderstood, thought you asked if I had read that book <chattr> back in a little while <ShawnR> so, i was just browsing around and found neo office... openoffice for macs <ShawnR> i thought OO was based on java and therefore, already multi-platform <reya276> for Ubuntu? <reya276> well its available for all platforms <ShawnR> no, for mac (i know slightly off topic) <ShawnR> i'm reading the site, they redid it in mac os x code and i guess has seed imrovements <reya276> yes for mac they do too its called Neo Office <ShawnR> i guess i just don't see the reason to totally re-write the code, oh well <reya276> well I think the reason(not 100% sure) is that MAC OSX had some issues with the existing code which all the other OS share, so they had to make some modifications to it, mainly due to the way it looks. I don't think for mac you can just use a GTK theme <reya276> And also it could be due to some Java VM differences as well but again I'm not 100% sure <reya276> regardless of the issues is still a pretty good piece of software and a great alternative to MS Office any given day dude <ShawnR> oh definitely <ShawnR> you might be right with the gtk issue <maxolasersquad> reya276: I don't know how OO looks on a mac, but the GTK apps I've seen on macs do not integrate with the menu bar, and can make the experience feel very off. <tiemonster> YEAH! <tiemonster> pretty cool stuff <mhall119> ShawnR: OpenOffice is writted primarily in C or C++ <mhall119> only some parts, like OO.o Base, make extensive use of Java <mhall119> the design of OO.o separates the UI from the rest of the app, what Neo Office did was write a new UI in Java using the Cocoa/Java interface on OSX <mhall119> so that it would behave like a native OSX application <mhall119> rather than running a GTK interface over X11 <mhall119> I think recently there was work going into an Objective-C/Cocoa UI, instead of a Java-based one <mhall119> but with the Oracle acquisition and subsequent LibreOffice split, I don't know what's become of that <reya276> maxolasersquad, my brother uses it on his mac book pro and he says is great, works just like the Ubuntu version <reya276> ShawnR, yeah like mhall119 stated the issues which Oracle has brought to the table can make things complicated for that development, but I'm pretty sure the Libre Office folks may render some assistance to the team that produces that version <reya276> ShawnR, but yeah aside from the GUI stuff my brother says there is no real difference between the two versions, so you can use then existing versions in both with no issues as of right now <reya276> ShawnR, my brother an I share files back and forth sometimes and there is no document formating loss or anything like that. Be it in the native ODT, OTT or DOC format. The only issues we have encountered is the dreaded DOCX junk, that even looks bad in its native MS OFFICE so go figure <mhall119> there is not functional difference between OpenOffice and NeoOffice, the non-UI code is the same <DammitJim> anyone with a rooted android phone? <reya276> WOW! MYSQL Workbench is Awesome <ShawnR> DammitJim: no, but i have plenty of friends who have, any question i can answer for ya? <tiemonster> if someone attends an event, what object refers to their actual attendance, and what is the plural? attendances? <MichelleQ1> tiemonster: say what? <tiemonster> I know <MichelleQ1> I attended event x and y <tiemonster> I'm writing a program to track event attendance <tiemonster> I need an object to track the event of you attending an event <MichelleQ1> attendence <tiemonster> what's the plural? <MichelleQ1> attendence <tiemonster> lol. never mind. <MichelleQ1> yeah, I'm confused. I think you're using a term that doesn't work as an object. <tiemonster> always <tiemonster> I always find myself in these situations ;-) <MichelleQ1> :-p <rmcbride> DammitJim: just checking the backlog. my Captivate is rooted <DammitJim> rmcbride, can you check where wpa_supplicant.conf is? <rmcbride> DammitJim: yea, let me go get it and fire up adb <DammitJim> ty <DammitJim> yeah, you can do all this in adb shell <rmcbride> Hmm. I thought for sure I had that installed no this laptop... one sec <DammitJim> lol <DammitJim> you can use the cruel terminal emulator on your phone :) <rmcbride> Hmm. I never installed that. I'm jsut futzing with perms on teh USB node now. been a while since we did our
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