#ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-18 <ChinnoDog> ubuntulog_? <ChinnoDog> PennBot: ubuntulog? <PennBot> Wish I knew. <ChinnoDog> ubuntulog_: are you a bot? <ChinnoDog> I'll take that as a yes <Pici> Its the logging bot that all the loco teams are getting. The loco contact for PA should have been informed about it. <andrew> why's he got an underscore then? * Pici shrugs <pleia2> andrew: there are two of them, one without an underscore and one with, it replaces locobot_3 <pleia2> they could have called it ubuntulog2 I suppose, but that's not much better than an underscore <Pici> Its authethenticated to the ubuntulog account, which is the important part. * pleia2 nods <yoda_van> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40237142/ns/business-consumer_news/?GT1=43001 <PennBot> Title: New 10-shot espresso drink is 'porn in a cup' - Business - Consumer news - Food Inc. - msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com) <pleia2> yeahyeahyeah <yoda_van> now that's hottt <pleia2> another fisher, coincidence? <pleia2> it's jedijf's cousin <pleia2> "and say to myself, 'I need another double.' And then another double will turn into another double. And I was like, why not drink a full cup?"" <pleia2> hehe, awsum <jedijf> boo...no one over 40....but since we're family <ChinnoDog> He doesn't want to kill anyone <jedijf> there is no bad press <ChinnoDog> Someone has to die before it is a bad idea? <jedijf> maybe <pleia2> one can be a statistical anomaly, has to be 2 or 3 <jedijf> dead person could start a contest - can you survive porn in a cup? <jedijf> like the amusement parks - tee-shirts - hats <pleia2> lol <ChinnoDog> I get a buzz off one cup of coffee and become catatonic at 3 cups. Espresso has less caffeine but 10 shots would surely kill me <ChinnoDog> Someone else has to say hi to lamalex when he comes back. My greetings are getting old. <ChinnoDog> bts3685|vps: turducken this year? #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-19 <ChinnoDog> Meeting time came and went <andrew> wrong night <ChinnoDog> The upa calendar and the topic say it was tonight. <andrew> oh <andrew> we changed to thursday? <ChinnoDog> jthan changed it, it suck, but jthan doesn't show up <ChinnoDog> s/suck/stuck <ChinnoDog> I guess it sucks too. haha <ChinnoDog> This is confusing. I open the meeting event on the calendar and I set a reminder and save it... is the reminder part of /my/ calendar or did I change the main calendar? <ChinnoDog> It doesn't show that I edited just my settings, and I also have the option to copy the meeting to my own calendar, but do I have permission or even the ability to change the upa calendar while logged into my own gmail account? * ChinnoDog scratches his head <ChinnoDog> I guess I'll know the next time a meeting rolls around because people will get reminders unexpectedly and show up <bts3685|vps> ChinnoDog: tuxducken <MutantTurkey> harry potter = awesome <ChinnoDog> bts3685|vps: a chicken in a duck in a penguin? <andrew> poor penguin <JonathanD> mutantpenguin? <InHisName> MutantDuk <andrew> quack <andrew> aflack <InHisName> No Wait: MutantCockroach <ChinnoDog> I think I am installing Ubuntu on my SSD using btrfs with compression enabled. Anyone see any problems with this? <andrew> ohh, package from dell <ChinnoDog> What is it? <PennBot> Rumor has it it is more than 5hrs to rochester from my parents cause my dad decided to stop at every place from his child hood, ChinnoDog <andrew> ChinnoDog: new desktop for a coworker <andrew> remember last week when I was talking about the one that I was trying to fix? <andrew> (or was i saying that in #plug...) <ChinnoDog> I don't remember... <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: well this is a bit late about the btfs <MutantTurkey> but definitly go for it. should work great on an ssd :) <MutantTurkey> make sure to mount your tmp and shit not on the ssd, and don't use swap cause it will wear out your ssd fast <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: I didn't intend to put swap there. idk about /tmp because I want my system to be portable. I want to be able to plug my SSD into another PC and boot up. <MutantTurkey> just mount your tmp to a ramdisk <MutantTurkey> or tmpfs or whatever <MutantTurkey> it should be portable <ChinnoDog> oh. I see. tmpfs allocates memory dynamically. Yes, I will use that. <MutantTurkey> exactly <MutantTurkey> :) #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-20 <InHisName> Howdy everyone including the Mutants <MutantTurkey> howdy InHisName <InHisName> While u were out, there was discussion of other Mutant names for you. Check the logs <MutantTurkey> really? <MutantTurkey> THATS NOT WHAT THE LOG SAYS. :[ <ChinnoDog> hi keng54 <teddy-dbear> when did ChinnoDog become a welcome bot? ;-) <keng54> hello all <keng54> anyone from the Berwick, Pa. area? <andrew> Where's Berwick? <ChinnoDog> North <andrew> west/central/east? <ChinnoDog> If I check "Encrypt my home folder" during 10.10 install is it going to make my disk configuration significantly more complex? <ChinnoDog> Ok, reading docs. I am scared of complications now <ChinnoDog> Maybe I will create an encrypted block device later to store sensitive stuff <bts3685|vps> man mknod; man cryptsetup <bts3685|vps> s/mknod/mknod,dd <bts3685|vps> hmm.. either i'm nullrouted, dc's got a bad route in (most likely, judging from traceroute: http://pastebin.com/ghBMR6iU ), or it's down again. last hop i get johncrosby@example.net <PennBot> Title: traceroute to corp.fusednetwork.com 523-777-4502 (at pastebin.com) <bts3685|vps> shall i email steadfast? <bts3685|vps> whoops, wrong channel <ChinnoDog> I don't know if this is going to work. I think I am going to have to put /boot on sda1 <ChinnoDog> I don't think the BIOS can see my SSD because it is ExpressCard. <ChinnoDog> s/sda1/sda <ChinnoDog> That will render my SSD unportable. It will be permanently tied to the laptop it is in. I might have to live with that. <ChinnoDog> Oh well. I'll just do that then. <ChinnoDog> At least I will still be able to swap the CDROM for the 2nd HDD while the system is running <ChinnoDog> Wow. That boots really fast. <ChinnoDog> FYI, compressed install is 1.4gb, uncompressed size is 2.4gb <ChinnoDog> (2.4-1.4)/2.4=41.7% space savings #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-21 <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: whats your boot time <MutantTurkey> also with the storage you'll have cpu overhead, but since memorys your typical bottleneck it 'lll be well worth it <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: i don't understand however how it won't be portable? just identify it by the UUID in fstab and you'll be fine right? <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: also what kind of read/write speed are you getting on that <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: also what type of compression are you using <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: not for ubuntu but... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Maximizing_Performance <PennBot> Title: Maximizing Performance - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) <MutantTurkey> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD#Tips_for_Maximizing_SSD_Performance <PennBot> Title: Solid State Drives - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: also checkout compache (ramzswap) which basically mounts your swap in ram and compresses it so you have more ram, but its a bit slower, but WAY FASTER than hard drive swap <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: just email me or ping me or something cause i can keep going for hours about performance and i'm really interested in how things are going with that <bts3685|vps> pleia2: grub2 + mdadm + luks / (separate /boot if necessary). possible? <ChinnoDog> @later tell MutantTurkey spill it <PennBot> ChinnoDog: The operation succeeded. <ChinnoDog> Google's translation from Thai is terrible. The result is totally incomprehensible. "Invite children to beat each other to do better than a donut." <-??? <jedijf> what flavor donut? <pleia2> bts3685|vps: don't know much about luks :( <bts3685|vps> it's okay; found out it's supported natively :D <bts3685|vps> it wouldn't have this problem if their shit was more open. hell, i can't even VIEW open bugs now. <bts3685|vps> THANKS, CPANEL <bts3685|vps> WHOOPS, wrong channel. again. #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-22 <ChinnoDog> Sunday is almost over <BeckySanderlin`x> good. need monday to get here now <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: why so anxious for Monday? <InHisName> Slowwwww weekend, BeckySanderlin`x, just can't wait for the week days to start, ehhh? <MutantTurkey> i'm just waiting around for winter break <BeckySanderlin`x> anxious for Monday because my check hasnt appeared and it was mailed last Weds. <andrew> pay check? <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: paid yet? <BeckySanderlin`x> dont know, mail man hasnt come yet <BeckySanderlin`x> usually around 11am <BeckySanderlin`x> so fucking anxious for that piece of mail <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: Is there a real risk you aren't going to get it? <BeckySanderlin`x> sec. afk <BeckySanderlin`x> well, theres no real risk of me not getting it. (only a 10% chance that someone else will get it) its a matter of when i get it <MutantTurkey> but when you get it is important <BeckySanderlin`x> its thanksgiving week and i need that money for items <BeckySanderlin`x> plus black friday is this week and i need my c2d machine back up and running <MutantTurkey> exactly <BeckySanderlin`x> compusa has fab deals atm <BeckySanderlin`x> GeForce 450's are 100usd <BeckySanderlin`x> and this little netbook im eyeing dropped 50usd <ChinnoDog> I see. Turkey and toy fund. <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: c2d? <MutantTurkey> don't get me started about turkeys <BeckySanderlin`x> c2d = core 2 duo <BeckySanderlin`x> im on a p4 / geforce 5200 dell atm <BeckySanderlin`x> my c2d has a geforce 220 on Win7 <BeckySanderlin`x> i need that machine up due to school <BeckySanderlin`x> and game(s) :D <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: what games? <BeckySanderlin`x> anything Steam related <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: I'm sure it is just the turkey fund, not the mutant turkey fund. <MutantTurkey> whew. i was worried <BeckySanderlin`x> who serves mutant turkeys for thanksgiving/?! <MutantTurkey> bob dole <BeckySanderlin`x> ew <BeckySanderlin`x> ChinnoDog: http://www.steampowered.com <PennBot> Title: Welcome to Steam (at www.steampowered.com) <MutantTurkey> who is bob dole i never actually knew <MutantTurkey> BeckySanderlin`x: are they doing steam or linux? <ChinnoDog> Genetically modified turkey = mutant turkey, right? <MutantTurkey> i'd say so <BeckySanderlin`x> MutantTurkey: its been in the works for years, but sadly no. <BeckySanderlin`x> hence why i need my win7 comp up <MutantTurkey> has it actually been in the works or 'in the works' <BeckySanderlin`x> i got games on there ive not even played <BeckySanderlin`x> and cant play because of this shitty gpu <ChinnoDog> By the time you upgrade the GPU the rest of your system will be obsolete <BeckySanderlin`x> nah, its been in the works for a while, yet they've not finished or released it <BeckySanderlin`x> well, im not getting a socket 115x anytime soon so... <MutantTurkey> will it be like opengl based or something? since we don't have directx or whatever <BeckySanderlin`x> doubt it, too many games nowadays need dx <BeckySanderlin`x> i just use wine for my old games <BeckySanderlin`x> but my cpu is soo slow, i need to close everything else off in order to power up steam + game <BeckySanderlin`x> time to check the mailbox again... * BeckySanderlin`x prays to the heavens <ChinnoDog> I am setting my laptop up so I can boot into Ubuntu and run Server 08 R2 in Xen, but I can still boot directly to Server 08. <JonathanD> the same instance? <ChinnoDog> Of Server 08? Yes. <JonathanD> fun <JonathanD> the stuff people believe... <JonathanD> "A DGTFX Virus has been detected in your Email folders. Your email account has to be upgraded to our new Secured DGTFX anti-virus 2010 version to prevent damages to our web mail log and your important files." <JonathanD> etc... <MutantTurkey> i'm off to class. cya guys later <BeckySanderlin`x> Success! Mail has been delivered! <ChinnoDog> Yay, money! <BeckySanderlin`x> now. to find money to get an id so i can cash it. <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin`x: to get an ID? What happened to your ID? <BeckySanderlin`x> expired <ChinnoDog> doh <ChinnoDog> Have a passport? <BeckySanderlin`x> no <ChinnoDog> That is a problem. <ChinnoDog> I have a photo ID that expires at a different time than my drivers license. So, unless I drive around with an expired license for a year, I will always have a valid ID. <BeckySanderlin`x> gotta figure this out. later <ChinnoDog> k <ChinnoDog> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/11/turkeytech/ <PennBot> Title: Give Thanks? Science Supersized Your Turkey Dinner | Wired Science | Wired.com (at www.wired.com) <ChinnoDog> Article is a couple years old but is interesting. <ChinnoDog> @later tell BeckySanderlin`x I recommend investing in a better network connection too <PennBot> ChinnoDog: The operation succeeded. <ChinnoDog> hi stump <chuckh1958> anyone here successfully using evolution with Maverick (10.10) and an Exchange server? <ChinnoDog> I wish. :-( My version of Exchange is always too new. <JonathanD> 10.10 works with my exchange (2007) <chuckh1958> and email, calendar, and tasks, all work? <JonathanD> I haven't explored it completely. <JonathanD> I will tonight, though. <chuckh1958> I thought if I waited a few weeks they'd get evolution fixed. I did the 10.10 upgrade again today, installed the latest evolution and still cant get it to work with my exchange 20003 server. I ended up restoring 10.04 again. This is the 3rd time I've upgraded and then had to roll back. <chuckh1958> It hangs, it crashes, etc. I even tried a clean install and it still doesn't work. <chuckh1958> Unfortunately Evolution is the one app I can't live without. If my email and calendar don't work, it's a show-stopper. <chuckh1958> Someone needs to write a new linux PIM that works with Exchange and just scrap Evolution. It's always been the weak link for integrating Linux into the corporate environment. #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-23 <JonathanD> Morning <MutantTurkey> woot! interwebs working on lappy at school :) <MutantTurkey> don't has my vim configs though :[ <MutantTurkey> unable to edit any files ackkk <deejoe> see, this is why I generally don't put a ton of effort into customizations <MutantTurkey> o/ <ChinnoDog> PennBot: o/ is <reply> Yes, you in the back? <PennBot> Got it. <andrew> o/? <PennBot> Yes, you in the back <ChinnoDog> Oh right, PennBot is question mark impaired <andrew> o/ <andrew> thankfully, otherwise it would get annoying <andrew> well, youcould also <andrew> @o/ <PennBot> Yes, you in the back <ChinnoDog> lol <MutantTurkey> fail. <ChinnoDog> @/ <PennBot> I don't know, ChinnoDog. <MutantTurkey> stop! <andrew> à² _à² <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: so, uh.. you had something to say? <MutantTurkey> opera 11 came out in beta :) <JonathanD> This has been a pretty good day. <MutantTurkey> yah rly? <MutantTurkey> ohrly? <JonathanD> Yes. <MutantTurkey> mine too <Pici> Its been quiet here. <MutantTurkey> too quiet. <Pici> <.< <MutantTurkey> >.> <JonathanD> Updated our failberry box. <MutantTurkey> success? <JonathanD> ys <JonathanD> it's still a failberry box. <JonathanD> But it's an updated failberry box. <MutantTurkey> :[ <Azmiov> Hello all :) <ChinnoDog> aloha <Azmiov> DavidLevin: MutantTurk? <JonathanD> hi <Azmiov> I'm working on c++ and For school I'm doing another website...To many gradprojects... <AlexanderAzimov> It may seem kinda dumb but I just realized something...If you took a numeric date like 03/14/1991 if you took out the slash's it would be in 8-bit just like binary, kinda...not really... <andrew> no matter what you do, at least put in in the proper order 1991-03-14 <AlexanderAzimov> andrew: Sorry about that I'm used to doing it the other way...I'm going to be sure to remember that one. #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-24 <JonathanD> Morning. <rmg51> morning <JonathanD> hey rmg51 <rmg51> hey JonathanD <rmg51> off to the kitchen for breakfast <rmg51> now, off to work <DevN00b> Mornins! <andrew> Mornins, DevN00b <andrew> morning, everyone else <ChinnoDog> morning andrew * AlexanderAzimov is learning the basics of screen. Like having virtual terminals inside your terminals. <AlexanderAzimov> I'll be back later. * ChinnoDog yawns loudly <JonathanD> I love my clearwire. <jedijf> elaborate <JonathanD> I'm sitting on a bench using my clearwire outside. It makes me happy. <DevN00b> I was thinking MiFi from Walmart. $20 a month for 250mb, I think <JonathanD> The mobile one for me is $10 a month, because we have the home plan. <JonathanD> downsides: bandwidth for a home setup is far less than with fios etc. <JonathanD> Also the dongle doesn't work "directly" with ubuntu <andrew> still? <PennBot> hmm... still is a fraid to apt-get autoremove, andrew <ChinnoDog> PennBot: sudo apt-get install brain <PennBot> Bugger all, I dunno, ChinnoDog. <DevN00b> What do you mean it does not work directly? <andrew> he means at all, and he puts a layer of a virtual windows machine in the middle (poor laptop) <DevN00b> owwie * DevN00b cuddles VMWare anyway <DevN00b> I'm going for Networking and Network security in January if all my grants and loans pan out :) <ChinnoDog> Windows footprint could be pretty small if it is just being used as a router. <DevN00b> Gonna get my Associates, transfer to Rowan or Drexel :) <ChinnoDog> sup lamalex <MutantTurkey> time to go into hiding eh ChinnoDog? those last minute shoppers are pretty desperate this year <ChinnoDog> That could mean so many things, I don't even know where to begin. <ChinnoDog> I was expecting some kind of jibe on my nick but I couldn't say for sure what it means. <MutantTurkey> right. when i said it i was referring to my nick <ChinnoDog> Oh. You meant it is time for /you/ to go into hiding <ChinnoDog> Yes, mutant turkeys are extra valuable at thanksgiving if the mutation is that they are extra large <ChinnoDog> I saw a marshmallow gun in a Bed Bath & Beyond catalog yesterday. I need one of those. <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: going shopping on Friday? <MutantTurkey> i hope so <MutantTurkey> why? <MutantTurkey> want to join me? :p <ChinnoDog> Definitely not. haha. I am staying indoors. <MutantTurkey> suit yourself <ChinnoDog> Well, I say that now, but idk yet who will try to pursuade me to go shopping with them. <MutantTurkey> haha #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-25 <bts3685|vps> 5~/win 15 <bts3685|vps> oops <DJAshnar> Happy Turkey Day! <rmg51> Happy Pumpkin Pie Day! :-D <jedijf> gobble gobble <MutantTurkey> I've managed to survive another holiday! <MutantTurkey> uh oh here come the relatives <MutantTurkey> better split :P <pleia2> I wonder if he died * andrew waives to pleia2 from about 45 minutes SE of her * pleia2 waves to andrew <andrew> How's NH? <pleia2> how long will you be there for? I'm meeting up with some ubuntu people on saturday <andrew> Where's the picnic? <andrew> Heading home Sunday <pleia2> picnic? hehe <pleia2> lowell, mass, we're doing lunch *somewhere* <andrew> ah <andrew> i misread <andrew> mybad <pleia2> meeting up with paultag, doctormo and leftyfb <andrew> I think I've met all of them <pleia2> I've only met doctormo <andrew> so, about 30 minutes from here, but I'd have to see about the schedule (and the ability to borrow a vehicle) * pleia2 nods <andrew> I'd probably have to say have fun without me, but if the ability comes up, I'll let you know <pleia2> ok, if you can't grab me on IRC just send me an email, I'll be checking that on my phone all weekend <pleia2> I don't think we've decided *where* in lowell we're meeting :) <andrew> will do <andrew> and it looks like it's nearly desert time * pleia2 had feedings hours ago, considering raiding the fridge for some leftovers soon <andrew> well, we finished dinner about an hour ago <andrew> well, I was finished by 4 <andrew> one plate and I was done #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-26 * waltman gobbles drowsily <waltman> pleia2: I once had to kill an hour in Lowell about 10 years ago and was unimpressed. All I can recall of downtown is that all the stores were either pizza places or barber shops. All I could figure out is that there must be something in the pizza that makes your hair grow. <andrew> I should sleep well tonight, no thanksgiving evening naps, and an 8.2 mile walk this evening <waltman> that's a long walk! <pleia2> well, good thing I'm not going for the scenery :) <waltman> There may have been a dunkin donuts or 3. :) <pleia2> yum yum <waltman> Anyway, it's been 10 years, so maybe things have turned around. I will await your report! <pleia2> I really came back to new england because my DD ground coffee supply was running low <waltman> heh <JonathanD> morning <AlexanderAzimov> Happy Belated Thanksgiving :) <AlexanderAzimov> Well thats not good...lol <AlexanderAzimov> Anyone else have issues with updates and software downloads where it comes up with an error saying something cant be downloaded but it installs correctly anyway? <AlexanderAzimov> brb sorry <jedijf> don't worry about it, we could use the activity <MutantTurkey> meh crappy builds for unity not working in arch :| #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-27 <JonathanD> Morning! <rmg51> morning JonathanD <DJAshnar> Mornin! #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-29 * InHisName is STILL known as himself [i.e. NO name switching] <rmg51> Happy Cyber Monday! ;-) <JonathanS> INdeed <JonathanS> Morning. <BeckySanderlin`x> ITS NOT MONDAY!!!..... <BeckySanderlin`x> ChinnoDog... whats this?! <DJAshnar> Anyone here that can recommend a good build of linux for an 11 year old girl to run on a Pentium 90 laptop, which has a wireless B PCMCIA card for net access? <andrew> DSL? <PennBot> I guess DSL is knoppix based righT, andrew <jedijf> puppy <jedijf> old puppy like 4 <DJAshnar> Will that support a gui AND the PCMCIA card? <andrew> What's the chipset on the card? <DJAshnar> not even sure, yet <DJAshnar> have to go pick it up <BeckySanderlin`x> Puppy supports most older cpu's/lappy's <BeckySanderlin`x> but i dont know how much an 11 y.o girl will like it <JonathanD> I'd like to put puppy on Josh's lame old laptop <JonathanD> or give him a better one, perhaps. <BeckySanderlin`x> i'd like to get a netbook <BeckySanderlin`x> Aspire One 1551 <BeckySanderlin`x> or AO 751 <DJAshnar> Target has a netbook for $179 <JonathanD> thats not just a black friday thing? <DJAshnar> Also, Newegg has some nice full lappies for $399. I got the Toshiba C655D-S5057 AMD Athlon II 2.1Ghz, 250gb HD, 4GB ram one with a Radeon 4250. Too bad it wont run Linux. Keeps locking up on boot <DJAshnar> I saw the flyer in Target a week before BF, and it made no mention of BF <JonathanD> hmmm <JonathanD> ok <JonathanD> my wifes T41 needs some work. <JonathanD> Fan is squeeky :( <JonathanD> I shot a mail to a buddy at my old work to see if he could get me a fan. <JonathanD> But I've not heard anything. <BeckySanderlin`x> ah, the bunny morphs into a dog <ChinnoDog> woof <andrew> woof? <andrew> yay, internet downtimes! <ChinnoDog> downtime-- <andrewDROID> Yar <andrewDROID> You know it's bad when you get the call saying that a tech is getting dispatched <DJAshnar> UBUNTU INSTALLED ON THE TOSHITBA! <andrewDROID> Caps lock malfunction <DJAshnar> Nah <andrewDROID> And... T1 malfunction <DJAshnar> Just happy keyboard <ChinnoDog> hi lamalex <ChinnoDog> downtime-- <rmg51> dinnertime++ #ubuntu-us-pa 2010-11-30 <DJAshnar> Mornin! <andrew> it is * BeckySanderlin`x puts covers back over head <DJAshnar> Ubuntu runs flawlessly now, thanks to a BIOS update and an ACPI/DSDT patch <andrew> BeckySanderlin`x: meh. <andrew> I can't do johncrosby@example.net... <DJAshnar> Work is evil, but evil pays well in the Network Security field <DJAshnar> Therefore Evil=Good <DJAshnar> This ties right in to the belief of mine that Lucifer is a tool, since angels dont have free will... <DJAshnar> Ubuntu Netbook Installing now on the ole Asus EEPC 701 4G Surf :^) <ChinnoDog> DJAshnar: Did you install something for the 11 year old? <MutantTurkey> join #archlinux <MutantTurkey> fail. <DJAshnar> ChinnoDog, I gave puppy a try on the lappy <DJAshnar> It crashed <DJAshnar> Dell Lat 233Mhz, 48MB ram <DJAshnar> Gonna try DSL soon <waltman> You had a puppy on your lap and it crashed? <DJAshnar> Puppy Linux <waltman> crashed as in took a nap, or crashed as in fell to the floor? <DJAshnar> Crashed as in desktop locked up on pressing the menu button <BeckySanderlin`x> lol <waltman> so kind of a fuzzy penguin sort of puppy then? <DJAshnar> yep <waltman> if you install puppy linux, you have to read your email with mutt :) <BeckySanderlin`x> i liked puppy linux <waltman> DJAshnar: is puppy linux so darn CUTE that you can't get mad at it even when it crashes? <BeckySanderlin`x> .g puppylinux <DJAshnar> lol <ChinnoDog> DJAshnar: I poked around on the Puppy site last night. I saw documentation that indicated that you should have been able to make it work. Did you diagnose menu lockup? <DJAshnar> not yet. Kind of tired <ChinnoDog> Linux users don't sleep. I am curious what you find. <jedijf> DJAshnar: what version? lupup may not work, but one of the 4.'s should <ChinnoDog> Why wouldn't you be able to cram the new one on? <jedijf> lupup doesn't seem as 'just works' in my experience <jedijf> dsl (i like the 3's) just works, but interface isn't as friendly <DJAshnar> 5.11 was the one I tried <jedijf> that's a lupup <BeckySanderlin`x> i stopped using puppy back in 3 days <jedijf> try a 4 - 4.15 iirc <DJAshnar> okies. Thankies :) <BeckySanderlin`x> its up to 5 now? <jedijf> 4.2 doesn't retain wireless info iirc <DJAshnar> 5.11 was it, BeckySanderlin`x <jedijf> BeckySanderlin`x: yes, and when it works its *hot* <BeckySanderlin`x> hmm, sounds like a project i could get into for my usb stick <jedijf> lu pup == lucid puppy - <jedijf> shuttleworth snuck into the puppy pen one night <deejoe> finnix ftw #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-01 <teddy-dbear> if Joe_CoT|notdead keeps it up I'm going to stab him with my pitchfork :-/ <Joe_CoT|notdead> lol <teddy-dbear> night all <InHisName> Joe_CoT|notdead: cannot seem to make up his mind what he wants to be called. <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all! <JonathanD> Morning. <rmg51> morning JonathanD <JonathanD> hey <JonathanD> 40 <rmg51> hey <rmg51> 45 <teddy-dbear> morning <InHisName> 50 <InHisName> hey <JonathanD> 55 <MutantTurkey> Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.13 has been released! check it out... <MutantTurkey> http://trinitydesktop.org <anduril> I understand what was cool about KDE 3.5 but man, I gotta say in my opinion it is ugly <MutantTurkey> I agree with that <MutantTurkey> the default setup is horrid <MutantTurkey> then again people still us fvwm <MutantTurkey> luckily TDE actually has user settings unlike gnome3 and kde and unity <MutantTurkey> my setup looks a lot different <MutantTurkey> anduril: http://imagebin.org/181948 :) <anduril> not bad still kde tho ;( <anduril> erh ;) <MutantTurkey> lolol <MutantTurkey> I was pretty hardcore gnome until i started contributing to tde <MutantTurkey> but the new release of gnome3 has no place in business and offices I don't thin. <ChinnoDog> crickets <ssweeny> all the cool kids are at UDS <MutantTurkey> UDS? <MutantTurkey> Upper Darby Soliciters. Unified Dental Students, Ultra-Deft Slackers. United Draconoian Society <MutantTurkey> ... <jedijf> ubu dev summit <MutantTurkey> oh <MutantTurkey> Ubuntu Dev Summit <InHisName> I like the ones MutantTurkey suggested, they all have more flair to the interpertation. <MutantTurkey> Unicycling Digeredoo Summoners <InHisName> Boy that has MORE flair and pizzazz <MutantTurkey> "the year of desktop Linux" is about as likely as the second coming of christ <MutantTurkey> LOL <jedijf> it's always the year of desktop linux.... <jedijf> for some <MutantTurkey> yeah <MutantTurkey> can I ask for blind upvotes? <MutantTurkey> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/lwozj/trinity_desktop_environment_3513_released/ <TheEvilPhoenix> you can ask for me to slap someone <MutantTurkey> slap the jedi! <anduril_> le sigh I just built a $70k desktop on newegg <MutantTurkey> with what? <MutantTurkey> oh 70k <MutantTurkey> pfft <anduril_> http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/lvp9t/does_anyone_else_like_to_see_how_expensive_they/c2w8x5k <MutantTurkey> $70 is more impressive <anduril_> it has 13Tb of SSD storage haha <MutantTurkey> where is that newegg post and the comments are all about the flux capacitor? <MutantTurkey> its like a giant ram array or something <mikedep334|away> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603+600003269&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=14&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc= <mikedep334|away> *#%! <mikedep334|away> the $80 one is sold out when you click on it <anduril_> I was trying not to blatantly cheat by going with OEM branded hard drives <mikedep334|away> the $110 + shipping one is actually $140 + shipping <mikedep334|away> I wonder if this is affecting consumer systems? <anduril_> oh you mean hard drives running low on stock/rising in price? <mikedep333> anduril_, yes, I mean that affecting the price point of consumer laptops by Dell, HP, etc <mikedep333> or consumer desktops by them <mikedep333> eg, a $350 computer going upto $425 <anduril> well it'll impact the margin (not that there is much left) that a retailer makes on a system but they'll generally end up eating it since the price points for sales are set months in advance <mikedep333> I have bunch of old spare drives <mikedep333> which all have at least some bad sectors <mikedep333> like the 250GB 7200RPM maxtors <MutantTurkey> mikedep333: ignore bad sectores, profit. <mikedep333> MutantTurkey, lol <MutantTurkey> :) <mikedep333> the question is have they passed the maximum the drive can reallocate <mikedep333> I mean, I know how to use dban to wipe them securely. <mikedep333> or use the linux erase command (I think that's the right command) <mikedep333> you can use that command on a HDD's block device <InHisName> u all seen this yet ? http://funroll-loops.info/ <MobileTurkey> ... <MobileTurkey> OLD <MobileTurkey> but still a good laugh <InHisName> 70k for a computer build ? Who's paying ? <MobileTurkey> IBM <MobileTurkey> :x <MobileTurkey> thats you're minimum allocated <MobileTurkey> if you dont spend it they'll cut your funding #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-02 <InHisName> mr bacon is missing: http://imgur.com/gallery/s7m9R <TheEvilPhoenix> heh <anduril> InHisName was just me trying to win karma on reddit :-p <beta0x64> woot <beta0x64> hello <beta0x64> ls <beta0x64> woops :( <JonathanD> Morning <rmg51> morning JonathanD <JonathanD> hey rmg51 <rmg51> o/ <InHisName> good morning now that we are all back together a 2nd time <JonathanD> indeed. <JonathanD> InHisName: why did you break freenode. <InHisName> I just was trying out a new hacker tool, I din't realize it was gonna DOooo something......... <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all! <InHisName> mr bacon came and went already and I couln't send him the bucket o' bacon <ChinnoDog> om nom bucket 'o bacon <InHisName> I'm dabbling around with iptables and NAT trying to connect outside to 523-777-4502:80 anyone have suggestions. All that I tried haven't made a diff yet. <InHisName> I'm seeing a default web page from my astlinux box I want the other to respond not this one. The astlinux box is where the iptables are used. <ChinnoDog> Where is "outside"? <InHisName> wild wild internet <ChinnoDog> You can't route to a private IP range across the internet because the internet routers will block it <rhpot1991> you would need to route it at the router <rhpot1991> if you have access to it <rhpot1991> think firewall <Resistance> ^ <InHisName> after experimenting with several iptable items, I needed one FORWARD and one PREROUTING item to get page to play from hidemyass proxy. Now I have a simple page up at that web site playing off one of my machines instead of a host web site. <jthan> jedijf: meeting tomorrow night? I have a potential "new contributor" to the team that would like to see what we're all about here on irc :-p <jthan> He saw we have meetings, but didn't know if they were a real thing <InHisName> I have lotta usb logging into /var/log/messages -- how do I find where logs coming from so I can decide if I want to turn it off ? <InHisName> seems this is set to 'yes' -- zcat /proc/config.gz | grep USB_STORAGE_DEBUG <InHisName> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep USB_DEBUG <InHisName> that one not set <InHisName> http://pastebin.com/HJphhm89 <InHisName> I found errors in /var/log/messages back in early morning hours. <InHisName> Errors on ports that 'shields-UP!' reports as stealthed. <InHisName> Can someone interpret these lines into something meaning ful ? <InHisName> the logging above in in dmesg some sort of 'ring logging' Things fall off pretty quick due to all the USB logging. <InHisName> s/in in/is in/ <ssweeny> InHisName, someone is trying a dictionary attack on your server <InHisName> those ports 35739 and so on are all tested as 'stealthed' by shields up! How is someone hooking into a stealthed port ? <InHisName> Or is that HIS IP and port numbers ? <ssweeny> InHisName, that's the remote port <InHisName> Oh now makes more sense. Is there clue which of my ports they are trying to punch on ? <ssweeny> InHisName, my guess would be 22 <jthan> InHisName: just use shorewall and lock up your ports.. use pubkey auth for your ssh <ssweeny> InHisName, that's the standard ssh port <InHisName> Yes, I noticed I had left it 'open' a few days ago and forgot about it. It is closed now. <jedijf> switch port <jthan> You could always use 443 <jthan> 52500 <InHisName> I am playing with web server on internal machine and connecting to port 80. What can these .ru folks try to do in that port. <InHisName> You all saying to use 443 or 52500 in place of 80 ? <jedijf> leave it open; the F opyum team needs something to do <ssweeny> if you change the port they'll have a harder time finding it <InHisName> It might be tough on anyone who wanted to browse to that website if they did not know to postfix :52500 on end. <ssweeny> right <ssweeny> but if you're just playing with your own you can put it wherever you want <MutantTurkey> why does he need all of this? <MutantTurkey> j/w? <jedijf> InHisName: mainly 22 <InHisName> But for next few weeks where no one will be browsing yet, sounds like at least good enough temporailly. <jedijf> let them hammer your 80 <MutantTurkey> InHisName: intruders? <MutantTurkey> just set a good password for ssh, lockout after 3 attempts. <MutantTurkey> thats all. <InHisName> aparently so. I left 22 open for a few days. No one was getting in only 2 users and really goofy passwords. <jedijf> InHisName: and no root login <jedijf> sshd.config <jthan> yeah <MutantTurkey> vim that baby! <Resistance> sshd_config :/ <MutantTurkey> vim is 20 years old? <MutantTurkey> jeez <jthan> search for permitrootlogin <InHisName> that machine does have a root. Not ubuntu <jedijf> for ssh you don't wnat to allow root login <jedijf> johncrosby@example.net would be a disaster <InHisName> its all closed up now. Now I've opened up port 80, should I change it to big port #? <jedijf> InHisName: just change it(ssh) <InHisName> ssh is closed 2 hours ago <Resistance> InHisName: fwiw, i moved my SSH traffic to 63329 * Resistance chose a random port :P <Resistance> i also use 2222 on occasion <Resistance> depending on the setup <InHisName> right now I don't need any ssh traffic from outside <MutantTurkey> Resistance: not very secure now that we all know your port and IP address... <Resistance> MutantTurkey: i didnt say its to this system ;P <MutantTurkey> sure sure <InHisName> but NO bot logging here so not too awful <Resistance> MutantTurkey: you cant even be sure that's the correct port ;P <jedijf> who cares, it's give you log monitor practice <jedijf> then netstat and see the ircbots they install as crons <jedijf> and john internally scanning itself <jedijf> the compromised box <jedijf> honeyd homework <InHisName> Ok, now got big numbered port open and 80 closed. <jedijf> InHisName: 80's not the problem, 22 was <InHisName> I said a couple times that 22 got closed up and was asking about 80 and what to expect from that being open. I close it about 4 hours ago now. <InHisName> how come when I do 'last', I only get one line output. The file grows larger after each login/logout. Still only the first line is shown with last command. <InHisName> I am running an older linux 523-777-4502 with busybox doing the last command. <JonathanD> waltman: new UPS works, holodeck is secure. <jedijf> InHisName: try last -n5 <jedijf> for 5 lines(if they exist) man last for more info...-Fad may interest you <waltman> JonathanD: excellent <waltman> JonathanD: pleia2 seems to think she's in "Florida" this week, so I guess it's working <JonathanD> I needed extra power for florida. <waltman> understandable, what with all that heat down there <JonathanD> Indeed. <waltman> and emulating Disney must be tough <JonathanD> waltman: emulating disney isn't the hard part. <waltman> oh? <JonathanD> Getting re-broadcast rights to do so is. <waltman> it's not technically being broadcast, is it? <JonathanD> it is, to lots of virtual people. <JonathanD> Besides, the media companies think you should pay for broadcast licenses if animals can hear your music. <waltman> oh, you mean that *you're* Disney? <waltman> When my cousins went down there last month, that was YOU? <JonathanD> There is no disney. ONly my basement. <waltman> impressive! <JonathanD> it's all a myth. <waltman> That explains a LOT <JonathanD> This is why it's always so crowded there. <waltman> it explains the mouse motif <JonathanD> I don't like mice. <waltman> exactly! <JonathanD> I haven't seen one (outside a pet store) in quite a while. <JonathanD> Last time I saw one was I think at my parents house, when in high school... <JonathanD> I shot it :/ <waltman> yow <waltman> ! <JonathanD> oh wait <JonathanD> last time was the mouse + snake? <waltman> outside doesn't count <waltman> that's NATURE <JonathanD> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/47445571@N07/5041763415/in/photostream <waltman> cute mouse + big scary snake <JonathanD> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/47445571@N07/5041763249/in/photostream RAWR I AM DEATH SNAKE! <waltman> at some point I figured out what kind of snake that was, but now I forget <JonathanD> I recall <JonathanD> waltman: apparently one that likes mice, though. <waltman> many snakes like mice, no? <waltman> I think I'd decided it was an Eastern Rat Snake <JonathanD> it must have been confused <JonathanD> as that isn't a rat. <waltman> bah, no. <waltman> eastern milk snake <JonathanD> that isn't a milk eihter. <waltman> wikipedia says they got the name because they're often found near barns <waltman> of course, it's not a barn, either <pleia2> it's actually not been very hot, so I don't think it's working very well <JonathanD> hmmmm <JonathanD> pleia2: isn't it supposed to be 20F above the norm wherever you travel? <waltman> pleia2: the sizing algorithm for the parrots seems a little off, too <pleia2> haha * pleia2 lurks in conference hallways <pleia2> there is a lot of yuengling here, it's weird <pleia2> clearly I'm in PA <JonathanD> pleia2: beer is hard to simulate. <pleia2> yeah <JonathanD> Much easier to just use local stuff. <waltman> JonathanD: Perhaps this explains why they switched to synthehol in the next gen series <waltman> I'm beat today. I probably should've skipped Central. <pleia2> I should have skipped that beer #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-03 <waltman> ! <pleia2> I am tired :) <rmg51> wouldn't the world come to an end if pleia2 started to skip beer? <pleia2> lol <Resistance> that would be bad <Resistance> because then i'd be forced to drink the beer <Resistance> and me + beer + weapons collection = warzone <pleia2> oh dear <waltman> One reason I'm tired is that I stayed up late finishing a book, and then posting a snarky review of it on amazon :) <waltman> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1GX9P8HX562TI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0441014186&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode= <pleia2> lol * sadin has new awesome thing goin on :D <jthan> Anyone use zsh? <waltman> jthan: I do <jthan> Does it typically use less resources than bash? <waltman> I've never noticed any difference, to be honest. <pleia2> you are really concerned about the resources your interactive shell uses? <jthan> Lol. <jthan> waltman: I like zsh, but I'm always too lazy to really sit and configure it <pleia2> just steal someone else's config, that's what everyone else does <pleia2> I think only one person ever wrote a zsh config <jthan> lol <jthan> I miss all the fun we used to have in here <waltman> pleia2: I think it was zenoli :) <jthan> It was obviously someone named Adam <waltman> how so? <jthan> If you look at the default prompts.. there are two named "adam1" and "adam2" <jthan> obviously he had time to make two prompts, and therefore also wrote the configuration <waltman> I don't think I've ever seen the default prompt :) <jthan> run "prompt -l" <waltman> zsh: command not found: prompt <jthan> well you got owned <waltman> ? <jthan> It doesn't like you <waltman> ? <jthan> It works for me <waltman> not "_prompt"? <waltman> type "which prompt" <jthan> just "prompt" <waltman> from the command line? <jthan> waltman: http://paste2.org/p/1755199 <waltman> I think it's because I'm not autoloading promptinit <jthan> could be <jthan> I am <jthan> :-p <JonathanD> japan is considering building a spare for tokyo. <JonathanD> A spare... city. <jthan> lol <jthan> Thanks for clarifying <JonathanD> We are really behind on the whole "DR" thing. <waltman> yep, that was it <JonathanD> I'm going to have to talk to my boss tomorrow about building a spare conshohocken somewhere. <JonathanD> http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8601550-will-japan-build-a-backup-tokyo <InHisName> jedijf: last -n5 gives help for my last. Not supported. <InHisName> ll <InHisName> Going evil on us, now ? <EvilResistance> :P <MutantTurkey> oh boy <MutantTurkey> InHisName will have your head. <InHisName> what does this mean: ---- Excess permission or bad ownership on file /var/log/btmp <InHisName> wtmp and btmp have SAME owner & group & permissions but btmp gets that error in messages <InHisName> seems btmp needs to be diff from wtmp <InHisName> permission set to 600 not 622 or 666 for btmp <JonathanD> morning. <rmg51> morning JonathanD <JonathanD> morning rmg51 <rmg51> for a while there I thought you went back to sleep <teddy-dbear> morning <JonathanD> rmg51: sleep? <teddy-dbear> sleep is for the weak and silly humans :-D <InHisName> Good Morning to all of you and rmg51 and teddy-dbear and JonathanD and Joe_CoT <waltman> good morning john-boy <InHisName> when ntpd says: adjusting local clock by -0.164255s is it speeding up my clock or slowing it down ? <waltman> umm, neither! <waltman> I'd guess the clock is running a tad fast, so ntpd set it back about 1/8 of a second <InHisName> 'k <waltman> the clock itself should run at a constant speed <MutantTurkey> yawn <InHisName> pretty close to constant, its about 1/8 once per hour of adjustment. <jthan> My clock is forever wrong and I can't seem to fix it. <jthan> says right now it's 15:39 <jthan> Timezone is set to my own... <MutantTurkey> clock broken? sync to clock. profix <jthan> sync to clock? <waltman> ntpdate to set it, then ntpd to keep it set <waltman> oh wait, you're 4 hours ahead? you're probably on gmt <waltman> or utc, whatever. <waltman> when you run "date" from the shell, what does it say? <rhpot1991> jthan: I have issues where my ntp doesn't run at work <rhpot1991> firewall access or something <rhpot1991> so my clock gets off until I fix it at home, by running ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com <waltman> do they have an internal time server you can use? <rhpot1991> dunno, I don't care too much <rhpot1991> personal laptop on business network, not going to push too hard <rhpot1991> ubuntu in a windows shop as well <rhpot1991> lots that can go wrong if I ask too much :) <waltman> nod :) <jthan> rhpot1991: this is my linode, so.. idk. <InHisName> quiet afternoon and evening....... #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-04 <MutantTurkey> http://imgur.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/U3oLO relevant <MutantTurkey> (irrelevant) <EvilResistance> lolwut? <EvilResistance> whoever made this has too much time on their hands: http://imgur.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/EPD8q <InHisName> the time discussions this morning was more useful to apply to my and other computers than this stuff. <InHisName> Still sleepin' away ? <JonathanD> Morning. <rmg51> morning JonathanD <JonathanD> hi rmg51 <JonathanD> I dread daylight savings. <rmg51> sleep through it <JonathanD> heh :) <rmg51> wake up again in March <JonathanD> rmg51: the problem is I'll still be waking up at the same time :) <JonathanD> oh, I like that idea. <JonathanD> I'll tell the boss I'm going into hibernation. <waltman> epic sunrise this morning <JonathanD> yes it is. <JonathanD> I was walking when it started, just stopped for a while. <rmg51> missed it <rmg51> but off to work now <waltman> I was griping to myself about waking up at 7 and it still feeling like the middle of the night. Then I looked outside. <waltman> rmg51: it's still going strong! <JonathanD> I can see it from here. <waltman> just look east, you can't miss it! <JonathanD> poking over the houses. <rmg51> I'll be driving east <rmg51> later <JonathanD> enjoy. <anduril> I think I have too many tabs open. Chrome is up to 1Gb of memory <teddy-dbear> morning <ChinnoDog> morning-- <anduril> morning? <JonathanD> our internet is down :/ <erstazi> hey, in vim, what does this character mean: ^@ <erstazi> nevermind, command ga says it is hex 00 <erstazi> damn nulls <HowdyDoody> On my Unity is 'terminal' button, if I right-click I see options "new terminal" and makes another terminal. How to change home folder to offer NEW home folder when I want a 2nd copy of home folder ? <ssweeny> HowdyDoody, middle-click on the icon to get a new instance <HowdyDoody> Hmm, it works but must have 'noisy' mouse, I got TWO more windows pop johncrosby@example.net. <HowdyDoody> Works great for both terminal and home folder. I have to forget about right click method, new sometimes are not available. #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-05 <jthan> Evening guys <rmg51> o/ <jthan> What's crackin? <rmg51> not much <rmg51> I just figured out how to get my new printer to print wireless <jthan> nice <rmg51> LibreOffice was giving me trouble <rmg51> I found out you have to set the printer up from within the app <rmg51> no more switching cables :-D <rmg51> Morning <JonathanD> Morning. <waltman> morning <InHisName> good saturday morning * waltman yawns <waltman> I'm ready for standard time. Getting tired of it being dark at 7:30. <InHisName> what is sequence of files being loaded at VERY begining of booting linux ? <InHisName> What loads before rc.conf ? anything after it ? <InHisName> Is there a nifty website that gives blow by blow from grub to login ? <InHisName> googling: "details" "grub to login" hasn't turned up anything useful yet. <anduril> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28 thats...awesome #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-06 <jthan> Evening guys <InHisName> evening jthan ! what exciting things you been up to lately ? <waltman> andrew: that is indeed awesome <InHisName> a wife complained a printer would not print on Tuesdays AND was right ? Wow! Might strange assessment that turned out spot on. <pleia2> it's a classic <InHisName> I type 'apache' into Software Center and get a bazzillion things. What am I looking for when nagios app says need to have apache 2 installed first ? <EvilResistance> InHisName: trying to set up a webserver? <EvilResistance> InHisName: `apache2` <InHisName> Just enough to satisfy a nagios install. <InHisName> Oh wait next page they give apt-get stuff. Nevermind, I'll skip the software center action tonight. * EvilResistance lols <andrew> evening waltman <jthan> andrew: !? <jthan> You're ... <jthan> ALIVE? <EvilResistance> WHAT THE FSCK?!?!? <EvilResistance> YOU'RE ALIVE?!?!? <EvilResistance> P <jthan> Q <EvilResistance> Z! <EvilResistance> :P <andrew> jthan: Yes I am <rmg51> Morning <waltman> Morning. <JonathanD> Morning. <waltman> Nothing like waking up at 6:30 after 8 hours of sleep. We should fall back every Saturday night! <InHisName> AHHHhhhhaaaa, the once a year 25 hour day. Niiiice <MutantTurkey> what is the usual "virtual machine" software these days? <rmg51> virtual box <MutantTurkey> ok :) #ubuntu-us-pa 2011-11-07 <MutantTurkey> english paper, a "how to paper" <MutantTurkey> with any topic allowed <MutantTurkey> "how to berate your 2nd grade substitute teacher" <MutantTurkey> I need your help #ubuntu-us-pa! what was your most evil bastardly plan? <MutantTurkey> thats you jedijf <ChinnoDog> hmm <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: Why would you want to berate your 2nd grade substitute teacher? <ChinnoDog> do 2nd graders even know what that word means? <MutantTurkey> SHHH <MutantTurkey> this is supposed to be a ironic thing <ChinnoDog> Do the 2nd graders learn what "berate" means in this how to paper? <rmg51> how to install Ubuntu and change to another desktop manager <MutantTurkey> rmg51: that is trivial I need to fill 1000 words <MutantTurkey> rmg51: also my professor is 75+ years old and doesnt have a cell phone <MutantTurkey> :/ <ChinnoDog> How to use a cell phone. <MutantTurkey> really good guy though, I love his class. <MutantTurkey> "why to get a cell phone, the inside story" <MutantTurkey> I was thinking I should just go into PR or journalism. <MutantTurkey> I am a good writer. <rmg51> why I hate Unity ;-) <rmg51> or in your case how to hate Unity <MutantTurkey> why unity has killed any chance for the linux desktop to be succesful in real worl applications. <rmg51> and Gnome3 <MutantTurkey> "why tablet devices are NOT the future for productivity" <ChinnoDog> I think we are straying from the how-to part of this paper. <MutantTurkey> "how 4g celphones have destroyed productivity in office spaces" <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: What other key skills could he use? <rmg51> how to survive Unity <rmg51> and Gnome3 <MutantTurkey> pffft <rmg51> how to get out of writing a how to paper <ChinnoDog> I like that one <ChinnoDog> Step 1. come up with a redundant BS topic like "how to get out of writing a how to paper" <InHisName> nuthin' for loooong while then BAM lotta talkin' !! <MutantTurkey> yeah <MutantTurkey> he already said that <andrew> http://camelegg.com/product/N82E16822136284 <rmg51> how to select a Republican candidate <MutantTurkey> :x <MutantTurkey> how to vote independant and stop being brainwashed by corporate committees <MutantTurkey> :) <InHisName> How to STOP greedy corporate CEOs etc from raping and pillaging the world economies. <rmg51> how to figure out what andrew is talking about <InHisName> "hard drive price changes, tracked" <rmg51> how to figure out how to stop this sillyness and get some sleep <InHisName> rmg51: easy just stop reading your silly monitor and shut 'ur eyes. <MutantTurkey> how to write papers 12 hours before they are due - a life story. <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: I like that subject. You could be all dramatic abou tit. <ChinnoDog> about it <EvilResistance> lolololololol <waltman> It feels later than 9:11 <sadin> ChinnoDog thats a dirty word for iRC :P <ChinnoDog> sadin: :-p <EvilResistance> anyone know of any PA-based apt repositories for Ubuntu? <waltman> Looking at the list of mirrors, I'd say "Carnegie Mellon Computer Club", and possibly "pair Networks" as well. <waltman> Why does it have to be in PA? Depending on where you are in PA, the ones in DC and NYC might well be physically closer. <EvilResistance> i'm almost certain PSU has a mirror * EvilResistance is out in Harrisburg <EvilResistance> i'm just not certain if ithey have a mirror for Ubuntu <EvilResistance> i know they have one for Debian <EvilResistance> i was going to email their help desk (I'm a student at PSU) asking about that <EvilResistance> btw, what "list of mirrors" is this you speak of? <EvilResistance> waltman: ^ <waltman> The one I found when I googled for "ubuntu mirrors" :) <waltman> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors <waltman> Unless you've got a mirror in your local net, I don't really see why it would make any difference. <andrew> rmg51: hrm? <andrew> night
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