#ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-01 <Verkustat> hi, how do i find what wireless driver i need? Have an HP pavilion DV6060 <defendguin> Verkustat: what wireless chip does your laptop use? <Verkustat> Broadcom <Verkustat> what do i do to boot ubuntu in text mode ? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-02 <tritium> Have there been recent changes to the atheros wifi module that make network-manager not play well with it? <tritium> (I just tried feisty on my work laptop, and network manager doesn't see wireless networks, so I have to use iwconfig) <tritium> Also, Xorg 7.2 appears to have borken my perfect extended desktop setup. <Burgundavia> tritium: I haven't seen anything, but I haven't updated in a couple of days <tritium> Burgundavia: you have atheros chipset? (Mine is a thinkpad T43p) <Burgundavia> yes <tritium> Thanks. That's interesting. Please let me know if you have troubles when you update. <crimsun> tritium: fglrx or ati? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-03 <tritium_> crimsun: ati <phixnay> hey I'm sure you get this a lot, but what is the best kind of laptop for ubuntu? <phixnay> probably something with atheros <phixnay> I've had sound and display problems on desktop that I'd like to avoid in the future <mjg59> Not Atheros. <mjg59> In general, Intel stuff is a good bet. <phixnay> intel wifi works just as well as madwifi then? <vilde> mjg59: :) <pochu> phixnay: it works really fine <phixnay> I've heard stories that laptops have generally worse power management and the fans don't always work, is there a best type of laptop that doesn't have these problems? <mjg59> phixnay: It works, whereas madwifi doesn't with the newest chips <phixnay> mjg59: ok. <tritium> atheros support has actually gotten worse since edgy <SmileyLap> hi! :D <SmileyLap> U asked to for people to lelt you know when laptops work/dont workk <SmileyLap> well Dell Latitude 100L works pretty well <defendguin> SmileyLap: make a wiki page for the laptop <defendguin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100 is mine <SmileyLap> heh <SmileyLap> i was gonna come here for some support, and then i saw ya topic :P <SmileyLap> i got problems atm :( <SmileyLap> attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-04 <Charles-Andre> Hi guys, I've tried all the afternoon to install Ubuntu from a live CD on my laptop. It takes half an hour to load, and when I double-click the "Install" icon, after like 10 minutes, it freezes without bringing the installer GUI. I checked CD-ROM integrity and RAM, everything's OK. My laptop has 256MB RAM. What is causing the problem? Thanks. <pochu> Charles-Andre: what ubuntu version? <Charles-Andre> pochu: Edgy Eft <defendguin> Charles-Andre: whats your processor speed? <defendguin> cd-rom speed <Charles-Andre> 1.7Ghz <defendguin> celeron? <Charles-Andre> Pentium M <defendguin> are you sure it takes half an hour to load? <defendguin> that seems a bit excessive <defendguin> maybe the media is bad <Charles-Andre> defendguin: Yes, I can tell because I was watching on the TV a program that takes half an hour, and it was still loading... <defendguin> and with 256 MB maybe you should be using xubuntu <Charles-Andre> Thanks. Can I install from the terminal? <Charles-Andre> (I don't want to launch the live CD) <defendguin> lol <defendguin> it takes about 2 min to launch the live CD here <Charles-Andre> Sort of powering on the computer with the CD-ROM in, and starting a text-based installation... Is it possible? <defendguin> do you know for sure that the media is good? <defendguin> i suppose i haven't tried in forever <Charles-Andre> Yes, I checked its integrity <defendguin> hmm <defendguin> i'm sure the text install option must be on there <defendguin> especially on an xubuntu CD because it is meant for people with minimal pcs <Charles-Andre> From the live CD, when I click the menu, it takes a minute to pop up <defendguin> try the CD on a different computer and see how long it takes <Charles-Andre> Let's see... <Charles-Andre> defendguin: On another laptop with 256MB RAM, it's working fine, the installer GUI shows up after around 30 secs. <defendguin> dude i think something is wrong with that laptop or that rom drive <Charles-Andre> defendguin: ok thanks. <defendguin> i wonder if you could try and external cdrom drive on that laptop <Charles-Andre> :( <Charles-Andre> defendguin: Is it possible to boot off the network from a CD-ROM located on a samba share? <defendguin> can't say for sure <defendguin> i used to install of a nfs share with fedora <defendguin> ftp share even <Charles-Andre> defendguin: Ok, I'm downloading the alternate build... <Kismet> Hi All! To update information on LaptopTesting, should I use the new LaptopTestingTemplate or change the layout of the TestingPage to looks like this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuAmiloM7440 <Kismet> I prefer to change the layout of the page so that people will know that they can use the laptop better with some version than other, also some tips to configure the laptop can be index and become available for user that has not moved to newest version * Charles-Andre fell asleep on his desk <Kismet> Hi All! <Kismet> I've a questiona about LaptopTestingTeamTemplate <Kismet> ..I want to update my testing survey of AmiloM1437G and I want to know if I can add extra column to the testing result table for edgy and festy or if I should drop all the column related to breezy and dapper <Kismet> ..I want to update my testing survey of AmiloM1437G and I want to know if I can add extra column to the testing result table for edgy and festy or if I should drop all the column related to breezy and dapper <metalhedd> i have edgy isntalled on my laptop, works great but my USB Mouse doesn't work when I plug it in. :( <AdvHertz> Hi all, anybody know how to enable the ene mmc card reader? <sacater> anyone got a good laptop they are willing to sell for UK120 <pochu> sacater: I sell an acer aspire 1642zwlmi, but for a little more ;) <pochu> 300 pounds :) <pochu> sacater: if you are interested... :) <pochu> or anybody else! <sacater> pochu: im 14, and i have only newspaper round money <sacater> pochu: sorry, 120 is my limit <pochu> sacater: :( <pochu> sacater: if you earn more money and are interested, tell me ;) <sacater> pochu: got jabber? <pochu> sacater: sure :) <pochu> sacater: pochu27@gmail <pochu> :) <sacater> pochu: cool, just re-counting my money to be sure im not off by 180 <sacater> pochu: know anyone else who may sell a laptop at that price? <pochu> sacater: sorry, I don't know :( <pochu> sacater: london? <sacater> on jabber now pochu <pochu> sacater: :) <sacater> pochu: 80 miles away why <pochu> sacater: because I'm traveling to london in 3 weeks time, so if then you are interested... :) <defendguin> sacater: i have an old dell pentium 2 cpi A series i'll give you if you want to pay for shipping <pochu> sacater: but if you are interested, I can send it to you :) <sacater> defendguin: for free? <sacater> hmm <defendguin> for the cost of shipping <sacater> what, so basically the laptop is free? <defendguin> yeah <pochu> sacater: yeah, but defendguin is from the moon, so it will be a little expensive :) <pochu> hehe <sacater> defendguin: where do you live, and how much is packageing <defendguin> i'm in the US <sacater> defendguin: hmm, i expect it may be a little pricy, were talking air-mail i expect <sacater> pochu: youre from england right> <pochu> sacater: spain :) <sacater> pochu: oh wow, nice <pochu> sacater: I can't see you in jabber :S <sacater> pochu: erm <pochu> sacater: ramirezanna@example.org <sacater> add me ramirezanna@example.org <pochu> doing <sacater> cool <pochu> sacater: done :) <sacater> pochu: what jabber client are you using? <defendguin> you would need to find a power adapter <pochu> sacater: gajim <sacater> defendguin: im less inclined now <defendguin> lol <sacater> pochu: cool, im using 0.11.1 <pochu> sacater: cooler! I packaged it :) <sacater> nice <sacater> youre ramirezanna@example.org? <pochu> sacater: ramirezanna@example.org <sacater> ah <sacater> well i cant see you :( <sacater> see me? <sacater> pochu: <pochu> sacater: nop :( <sacater> how weird <sacater> try ramirezanna@example.org <sacater> sorry <sacater> gajim.org <sacater> ramirezanna@example.org <pochu> doing :) <pochu> sacater: done :) <sacater> ok <sacater> i see you <pochu> hehe <pochu> so do I :) <sacater> defendguin: sorry, i like laptops to have chargers, but add me on jabber anywat <sacater> ramirezanna@example.org ramirezanna@example.org (if you are using gmail <defendguin> i don't use jabber much <sacater> defendguin: msn?> <defendguin> ramirezanna@example.org <defendguin> thats my msn name #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-05 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <susscorfa> anyone running a acer 1692 <Infecto> http://youtube.com/watch?v=psamNnim_I0 <sacater> any1 selling laptops in the price range of UK104.60 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <welp> who's offered sacater that laptop? * welp hies <welp> *hides <sacater> WELP YOU A HOLE <sacater> i said no <welp> nice to see you too ;) <sacater> welp: hm <welp> no offence sacater, but i really do not want another laptop <sacater> welp: go back to gentoo-dev <sacater> welp <welp> got way too many computers, full stop <sacater> no.... youll take it.. <welp> sacater <welp> i will not <sacater> fine <sacater> oh lol <sacater> hes not in here atm <welp> *sigh* <sacater> :P #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-06 <caravena> Hello. <caravena> Pliss read -> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89800 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89800 in linux-source-2.6.20 "External video not working on Toshiba Satellite A130 in Feisty" [Undecided,Needs info] <caravena> How to debugging? <caravena> Problem with HAL? <Kismet> hi all <Kismet> is here any human? <pochu> Kismet: no, we are all bots :) <Kismet> ok perfect :) <Kismet> I have to ask something to the bot then ;) <Kismet> I want to update a testing result on LaptopTesting wiki <Kismet> but I don't know if I have to delete all the information about the test result with old ubuntu version like dapper and breezy <Kismet> or just add my test result to the page by breaking the LaptopTestingTemplate <Kismet> what should I do? <pochu> Kismet: you can add it <pochu> Kismet: for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire1642WLMi <Kismet> ok ^_^ <pochu> Kismet: it has the breezy, dapper an edgy reports <Kismet> pochu I thought that it wasn't standard :) <pochu> Kismet: what about the template page? <Kismet> OK! So I'll answer also to the question that I have put on the wiki <pochu> Kismet: I have seen that in some reports <Kismet> pochu never mind to template page if I can add extra column to testing report :) <Kismet> pochu if you have time can you answer to question on this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting <pochu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate <pochu> Kismet: the template has columns for each Ubuntu version <pochu> Kismet: sure <Kismet> pochu I can see only 2 columns instead Ubuntu has more that 4 version: hoary, dapper, breezy, edgy, etc. <pochu> Kismet: yes, but dapper is stable and supported, as are edgy and breezy <pochu> Kismet: so I don't know what should you do, but if those version are supported and stable... <pochu> Kismet: but probably there is anybody else who knows the answer :) <Kismet> I'll wait for Mr. anybody to answer :P <pochu> Kismet: you mean Mr. bot_boss :) don't you? <Simira> Kismet: have you had a look at the other laptop models, what they have done? <Kismet> Simira: I have looked that some report all the version tested.. <Simira> Kismet: then you just do as the others? <Kismet> Simira even people from "Canonical Supplied Laptops" had different behavior, some have removed old Ubuntu version test result while other have kept all the testing result. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaTecraA2 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadX41-2527 <Simira> Kismet: so just add the new one and leave things as they are? <Kismet> Simira: OK #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-07 <tritium> crimsun: did you reply to jmworx? <crimsun> tritium: I did. I've got the _source.changes queued, but I can't upload it until it's signed <crimsun> waiting til tonight <tritium> crimsun: oh, great. Enough people tested it now? <crimsun> yep <tritium> Fantastic. Oh, by the way, the latest Xorg update restored the extended desktop I had lost earlier. <crimsun> great <tritium> Yep. <tritium> How's travel going? <crimsun> pretty crazy, but it'll settle down during the week <tritium> I hear you. <tritium> crimsun: There's a meeting tonight? <crimsun> tritium: not that I know of. We had an MOTU meeting earlier this afternoon. <ajmitch> hi tritium <tritium> hi ajmitch :) <tritium> Gah, I was going to try to attend. I thought it was at 20:00 UTC, which I was thinking was 7 a.m. tomorrow morning for me... <tritium> How are you, ajmitch? <ajmitch> I'm good, a little busy with work <ajmitch> how are you? <crimsun> tritium: (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-March/001350.html for meeting minutes if you need to catch up) <tritium> Thanks, crimsun. #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-09 <xai> hi guys. My dell c600 seems to change the fonts so small size after each reboot, and doesn't seem to want to remember the time. Not sure if my cmos battery is dead,. <xai> I thought those things were supposed to last a really long time.. <xai> Is there a way to test it without opening it up? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-10 <[H] 3b0R> hello, im running edgy eft on an hp compaq nx6325, but the wireless network adapter make my internet extremly slow.... im using the windows driver with the bcm-fwcutter, any one got any tip? <[H] 3b0R> ops sorry <mr_charisma> hello? <mr_charisma> I was going to fill out a laptop testing report for my laptop. There is already a page for my model but it has different graphics hardware <mr_charisma> so, do I edit the existing page or make a new one <mr_charisma> ? <crimsun> identical piecewise except for the graphics hardware? <crimsun> meaning identical model name, too? <crimsun> if so, I'd just amend the existing one. <mr_charisma> yeah Dell XPS M1210 <mr_charisma> the current page has Intel integrated graphics, mine has nvidia #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-11 <gourdin> hi there <gourdin> I'd like to post a report on my laptop <gourdin> I tried the "wiki howto" <gourdin> "You are not allowed to edit this page." <gourdin> when I trie to create a new wiki page <gourdin> how do I proceed ? <Fujitsu> Are you logged in? <gourdin> nop <gourdin> this step isn"t in the howto :) <Fujitsu> OK. <Fujitsu> Well, you'll need to log in. <gourdin> 'k * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <DragonionS> Hello! <DragonionS> Could you tell me how can I recompile the kernel module? <sacater> anyone here live in the UK, and is willing to sell a laptop within the price range of 100 #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-12 <guspad> is someone using hdaps on a thinkpad ? <robb1> hello? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-13 <tritium> ajmitch: do you happen to know who ramirezanna@example.org is? I seem to have lost my admin password for ubuntu-us-nm mailing list... <ajmitch> nope, but there's an RT instance you can put a ticket in for sysadmin stuff <ajmitch> did you get an email about MOTU stuff? <tritium> I did, yes. <tritium> RT instance? What do you mean? * ajmitch hopes you'll stay & help :) <tritium> Thanks, ajmitch :) <ajmitch> the 'canonical' way of complaining to sysadmins about lists, etc <ajmitch> I'll try & find the info about it <tritium> Thanks! <tritium> And I appreciate you wanting me to stick around :) <tritium> I don't recognize the name of the person that emailed me. <ajmitch> it would have been dholbach or gpocentek <ajmitch> motu council people <tritium> The later. <tritium> latter <ajmitch> I got told ramirezanna@example.org <tritium> Thanks, ajmitch. <tritium> Does RT stand for real time? <ajmitch> request tracker <ajmitch> an ugly perl hack <tritium> Oh, heh ;) <tritium> ajmitch: I got a delivery notice <tritium> (failure notice) <tritium> I'll just email ramirezanna@example.org :) <ajmitch> good luck <tritium> Thanks <AndrewB> Is anybody about? <AndrewB> How should I do a report on an Ibook, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Apple_iBookG4_14in_1%2e33GHz that stands but is out dated. Do I just add a new column. It would be Edgy stable I could test. <dade`> is there someone that uses ubuntu + macbook ? <AndrewB> dade`: sup? <dade`> AndrewB: sup what <AndrewB> Hello. <dade`> hello <dade`> what does it mean sup <AndrewB> dade`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Apple_Macintosh might help.. <AndrewB> Short for whats up. <dade`> thx <dade`> hmm i'm using a slow connection <dade`> nothing useful <AndrewB> dade`: what is it your wanting? <dade`> i user ubuntu on the macbook time ago <dade`> the main problem was sleep <dade`> it worked if you disable the cdrom ata driver <dade`> so with sleep you could not use cdrom <dade`> and now i was wandering if the problem is gone * AndrewB isn't sure sorry <active> hi <active> any one help me daul boot ubuntu and xp on my laptop please <viktor> does anybody have amilo L1310g ? <Alpha_Cluster> has anyone gotten a laptop with an ATI chip extend onto another moniter? <pochu> does anybody want to buy an Acer Aspire 1642zwlmi for 500? :) #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-14 <mixium> Hi guys. I'm new here and I have a question (not support) about offering webcam kernel modules. <mixium> There is a great guy developing kernel modules for the latest HP laptop webcams. One that I have myself (HP dv6000t). I'm testing those I can and some more this week. <mjg59> mixium: Best bet is to file a bug against linux-source-2.6.20 in launchpad with a link to the source <mixium> Thanks. Once I get the latest driver and confirm it works I'll do that. <mixium> That should happen this week. <mjg59> Cool <mixium> Actually the only two problems I have are the webcam and the headphone/alsa. I'm going to try to find fixes for the sound and post a bug reort there as well. I've seen some users compiling alsa themselves. I just think that's the wrong way to do it. <mixium> I think bug reports help everyone. <mjg59> Yup <mjg59> We're still working on fixing sound bugs <mixium> With the alsa 1.0.13 the sound has improved (but heaphones do not switch main sound off). How can I help you guys test the sound fixes? <mixium> My public information is already registered at launchpad and at the wiki if that is important. <crimsun> please pastebin your lcpvi -vvn <crimsun> lspci -vvn, rather <mixium> sure <mixium> I don't have any software installed to do that (using chatzilla) but I will give you a link to my server in just a sec <crimsun> using http://pastebin.ca to paste the output from that command will suffice <mixium> http://pastebin.ca/394134 <crimsun> that's already fixed (fix-committed) in feisty. <mixium> in regards to the sound I assume? <crimsun> yes. <mixium> Do you have a bug report I can reference/ <crimsun> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/90775 <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90775 in linux-source-2.6.20 "sound does not play after headphones removed" [Medium,Fix committed] <mixium> thanks <crimsun> note that the description is a bit misleading; the real issue is was, depending on which kernel used, either missing jack sense control or a jack sense inversion <crimsun> was, even. <mixium> OK, because that is only one of the sound problems I am having. <mixium> on Feisty Herd 5 - current <mixium> I'll spend some more time making sure before I post a bug <crimsun> the fixes are not available in a kernel yet <crimsun> this is the actual commit: http://hera.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=94e796e42ba693e81a0e6497d9477cdbb742ce4c <mixium> very nice work. The comments cover every problem I expereince <mixium> very nice work <mixium> Thanks for the information and have a great night all. <Death_Sargent> hello <AndrewB> How do I test a laptops mix? <AndrewB> got it.. #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-16 <XelHa> hi all <XelHa> I have a laptop and Edgy did not properly detected the native resolution. <pochu> XelHa: which video card and driver? <XelHa> the fix was pretty trivial, jut changing the configuration file for X and adding the 1280x800 resolution. <XelHa> where should I report this so that it would be fixed for Festy ? <pochu> XelHa: have you already tried feisty? <XelHa> no. <pochu> XelHa: then first try it, because it may be fixed <pochu> XelHa: also, which driver and card do you have? <XelHa> Radeon X 200M. first I used the default driver then switched to the one from ATI ( ... must have Baryl :) <pochu> XelHa: I suggest you to try feisty (you can simply try the live cd) <XelHa> OK, I'll give it a try. Thanks! <BackwardsDown> will beryl be in the standard repro's in feisty? <pochu> BackwardsDown: nop <pochu> BackwardsDown: but compiz is installed by default (though not enabled) <BackwardsDown> why didn't they go for beryl instead of compiz? <BackwardsDown> I thought beryl was better integrated in ubuntu? <pochu> I think beryl is more unstable than compiz <BackwardsDown> ah k <XelHa> I have a laptop who's native resolution is not properly detected. after installing i only get 1024*768 instead of the 1280*800. <XelHa> The latest Feisty does not solve the problem. <XelHa> It can be easily solved by changing the X config file and adding the native resolution. <XelHa> where should I report this? <DreamerHxC> hi all <DreamerHxC> I have an Acer Aspire 1691 with Inte pro 2200 wireless card. I have Edgy eft and I'm currently connected to my wireless but it's not woking, and it's properly configured. Can you please help me? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-17 <tiago_deliberali> hi! i'm looking for a handwriting recognition software for my tablet pc... someone has a tablet pc with that???? : ) <IamUnsai1> Good evening, is there anyone here who can help me with an X Server issue? It's on Ubuntu 6.10, most up to date kernel, Toshiba Satellite P105 laptop with Intel 945GM Express graphics chipset <IamUnsai1> *bump* <crimsun> it's normally much more productive just to spill your issue than to ask to ask. <crimsun> mmkay. <paulo> qualcuno sa darmi indicazioni per un nb packard bell easynote? <Fujitsu> !es <Fujitsu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. <giftnudel> I guess it's rather italian ... <giftnudel> (without knowning) <Fujitsu> Indeed. <Fujitsu> Silly me. <Fujitsu> That is rather Italian looking. <Fujitsu> So many vowels... It has to be. <giftnudel> ;) <giftnudel> I find it very interesting that one can find out the language without actually speaking it ;) <XelHa> Hi all, I'm filling in a new laptop model and have difficulties making the difference between Brand and Make. Can anyone enlighten me? <XelHa> The laptop that I'm working on is sold by Medion and model MD9300. <Apreche> hi, I just got a Fujitsu P7230 and everything "just works" in Ubuntu except the LCD brightness controls. I want to develop a patch for it, because nobody else ever will, but I don't know enough about ACPI. <Fujitsu> Apreche: Are you able to control the brightness by echoing a number to /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-18 <Apreche> Fujitsu, yes I can <Apreche> Fujitsu, i can also see some events happening in acpid and dmesg when I push the buttons <Fujitsu> Apreche: OK... That's odd. <Apreche> Fujitsu, hence, my confusion. <Fujitsu> Can you paste one of the acpid log entries here? <Apreche> sure <Apreche> actually <Apreche> the acpid only logs something if I do Fn+F7 (brightness up) <Apreche> if I do brightness down it doesn't show in acpid <Apreche> only in dmesg <Apreche> [Sat Mar 17 19:45:00 2007] received event "video LCD 00000086 00000000" <Apreche> [Sat Mar 17 19:45:00 2007] notifying client 4049[0:0] <Apreche> [Sat Mar 17 19:45:00 2007] notifying client 4206[106:110] <Apreche> [Sat Mar 17 19:45:00 2007] completed event "video LCD 00000086 00000000" <Apreche> 4049 is Xorg and 4206 is hald-addon-acpi <Apreche> Fujitsu, want any other information? I've tried just about everything. <Fujitsu> You might want to file a bug on the kernel, I think. <Apreche> where do I go to do that? <Fujitsu> Which version of Ubuntu are you running? <Apreche> I was using Edgy, but just now I am booting a Feisty CD just to make sure <Fujitsu> Check if it's still broken in Feisty, and if it is please file a bug at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+filebug <Apreche> omg, it works in Feisty! hooray. <Fujitsu> Oh good! <Apreche> I'm still wondering what the problem was, though. <Apreche> if I install feisty, will it upgrade itself to the stable version when the stable version is released? <Fujitsu> The normal upgrade process will do that, yes. <Apreche> awesome <Apreche> thanks <Fujitsu> The beta will be released in a few days, if you wish to wait until then. <Apreche> oh, good. I know the final is about a month away, and I can't go a month without brightness controls. <Fujitsu> The beta is meant for general testing, so should be pretty much OK to use. <Apreche> wow, this is pretty cool. A laptop that 100% just works without any ndiswrappers or anything. <Apreche> alright, I'll definitely do that, thanks again <Fujitsu> Mine does too, it's great! <Apreche> awesome <Fujitsu> You might want to write up a LaptopTestingTeam page for it. <Apreche> yeah, I saw that. I will definitely do that. <Apreche> because I still think that the g-force sensor and the fingerprint reader do not work <Apreche> ok, bye <pochu> sacater: do u still want a laptop? :) <sacater> pochu: oh yea, but i only have around 95 quid <sacater> pochu: if its free gimme gimme <sacater> pochu: please <pochu> hehe <sacater> .... <pochu> I'm afraid not :( <sacater> well i would still like it, but need more cash <pochu> hehe <sacater> :( <sacater> dont suppose i could owe a few hundred quid, i got 4000 in court case, and i can pay you when im 18 (when im allowed the 4000 from court, ill have more by then, cos of interest) <sacater> pochu: <pochu> hehe <sacater> pochu: no seriously <pochu> sacater: are you 14? <sacater> pochu: yes i am <sacater> 2 months ago <pochu> so are you saying you'll pay me in 4 years? <sacater> pochu: kinda yeah <pochu> :S <sacater> pochu: aw comib <sacater> aw comon*# <pochu> aw? <sacater> pochu: please...... im trust worthy and honest, check this terms school report <pochu> sacater: I don't say you aren't honest, but I can't wait 4 years to get the money ;) <pochu> sacater: however, you can ask your parents for the money, and give it them back once you have it :) <sacater> pochu: sure you can, you can look forward to it if your'e in debt <sacater> sacater: i got a new PDA and bluetooth adaptor for my birthday, they will say no for now <pochu> :( <sacater> pochu: pretty please with stawberries on top, what if i say a very thought provoking question <sacater> pochu: <pochu> sacater: I'm not sure I've understood you :S <pochu> my english is poor :) <sacater> pretty please ? <sacater> basically <pochu> ah, ok <pochu> and strawberries? <sacater> with strawberries on top, to make it nice <pochu> hehehe <sacater> pochu: is that a yes or no :| <pochu> sacater: it's a no, if you still say you'll pay me in 4 years time :( <pochu> I can't wait that long, sorry <sacater> hmm. join #sacater, theres someone id like you to meet #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-21 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <tritium> Anyone else have an Atheros AR5212 that worked fine in dapper/edgy, but not at all in feisty? That's the case for me on my ThinkPad T43p... <Nailor> tritium: Have you checked launchpad for bugs? <sacater> me buying laptop for anything under 100 #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-22 <anmar> Hey guys. I have a lenovo core duo laptop running Feisty (uptodate) and resuming is killing my track pad. Where to start looking so I can collect enough info to log a bug? <crimsun> start with a working install. <crimsun> (one where resuming has a 'functional track pad') <crimsun> preferably in feisty <anmar> crimsun: hmm... I guess Feisty Herd 5 will have to be the place. <anmar> crimsun: I did see something in the logs about a multiplexor <anmar> i8042: failed to resume active mul <anmar> tiplexor, mouse won't work. <anmar> crimsun: I know it worked with Herd 5. but is there a specific place I can try pin pointing the problem? <crimsun> you need to use git-bisect. * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <amayera> hi <amayera> I have got a laptop for which since about 2 weeks a driver for the sdcardcreader exists. what do I have to do to get this one included in Ubuntu? <crimsun> amayera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelPatches <amayera> crimsun: I see. * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log <AndrewB> Any1 about who could help me a sec? #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-23 <feNNec_> bonjour ! parmi vous, y'en aurait pas un qui a un Dell 1210 ? <feNNec_> Same in [en] : Hi ! Isn't there anybody who has a Dell 1210 ? <cooltoad> hello world #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-24 <safehazing> hi there, i'm interested in contributing to ubuntu wiki by making a laptop testing report. I have an IBM X31 now there is already a page up on the X31 but it is about a year out of date is it ok to just go ahead and edit this page? <crimsun> safehazing: yes, just note it clearly <safehazing> thanks <Edulix> hi! <Pnquin007> Is here any owner of laptop Acer Aspire 3650? <vimalg2> Does anyone here know about VIA-epia based laptops <Pnquin007> vimalg2: Which laptops are VIA Epia based? I don't know anyone <vimalg2> try googling for ECS G320. <vimalg2> Its based on EPIA more or less <vimalg2> Lots of clones of that one available for around $500 <vimalg2> It shares most of the EPIA issues with Linux. <vimalg2> Kernel modules are OK. <vimalg2> But the C3 Nehemiah processor has extra features like Hadware AES encryption+Pseudo-Random number generation that dont come with stock kernels <vimalg2> Plus the display controller is a VIA CLE266 <vimalg2> Via released the source code only in Feb after over 3 years of pesering by viaarena.com Linux community <Pnquin007> vimalg2 I'm in battle with Acer Aspire 3650. Sound works, but i can't set volume and microphone does't work. ATI200 chipset. Ugh <vimalg2> Hows power management? <vimalg2> Doe your laptop lid work correctly <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Mine is erratic. Its all thanks to ACPI implementation <Pnquin007> Power management does't work good too :-( <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Thankfully USB2/0 gives me close to 15Megabytes/sec transfer on 2.6.x kernels <vimalg2> Via has some wierd cross-licensing with M$ that pervents them from giving USB2 drivers for download directly. <Pnquin007> vimalg2, Sorry for my english it's not my natural language <vimalg2> Pnquin007: I can hardly tell. Neither mine dude <vimalg2> :D <Pnquin007> vimalg2, But i think, Your laptop isn't real laptop, it's deskop replacement. How long is running time on battery? <vimalg2> Pnquin007: EPIA is non-power intensive.. I get about an hour of regular use while on IRC <vimalg2> Pnquin007: the cpu scales back to about 400Mhz though <Pnquin007> Hmm, my processor doesn't scale speed, when i use battery. On MS Windows yes, but in Linux no :'( <vimalg2> I havent tested battery-life on Linux yet. I send it into hibernate/standby, coz the blackouts here can last upto 5-6 hrs <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Can you get 2d+3d acceleration drivers from ATI for the x200? <vimalg2> Pnquin007: My only resource is "openchrome" project. They have hacked and reverse-engineered 2d+3d drivers. Cant wait to try it out <Pnquin007> vimalg2, I don't play games and don't need xgl... I'm developer. That means, that i didn't try ATI drivers. I use drivers from X.org only <Pnquin007> they work properly <vimalg2> Pnquin007: I don't need XGL/beryl or any of that fancy crap either, I just dont,like the way the windows leave a shadow when they get dragged across a desktop <vimalg2> It can be very annoying <Pnquin007> :-) <vimalg2> lol <Pnquin007> http://www.last.fm/orsm <Pnquin007> Eee, sorry... <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Plus , I'd like to try out Q3 and see if it can get better FPS than 10 on Linux. lol <vimalg2> Just for kicks <Pnquin007> vimalg2, i know <Pnquin007> I've only few games, but they need MS Windows or Winex ... Formula 1 Grand Prix and NHL 200x <vimalg2> Pnquin007: My reflexes arent what they ramirezanna@example.org. So no point in deathmatching against 12yr olds. They can all pwn me :D <Pnquin007> vimalg2, How RU old? <Pnquin007> Me 33 Years <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Someday in the future i'd like to see a REAL quality piece of work like warcraft 3 or Microsoft Flight simulator in an OpenGL version. Just dreaming <vimalg2> Pnquin007: I'm 22 going on 32 <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Do you work only with OSS tools for development? <Pnquin007> vimalg2, No <Pnquin007> For my employer i'm using Borland Delphi and C#.NET <Pnquin007> i'd like to use java, but firm policy is .NET <vimalg2> Pnquin007: Have you tried Mono for C# on linux. They're supposedly compatible with DotNET v1.0 <Pnquin007> Where do You come from <Pnquin007> But not compatible with .NET 2 and there are problems with WinForms <vimalg2> Pnquin007: The southern tip of India <vimalg2> Pnquin007: ah. I see. So its Pure win32 development then <Pnquin007> vimalg2, Yes You're right. It's Only Win development only for my emplyeer <vimalg2> gotta go <vimalg2> bye room <Pnquin007> I've problem with sound and ACPI o Acer Aspire 3650 (Intel Celeron, ATI200 chipset). Laptop sounds, but i can't setup volume, microphone is off. ACPI doesn't send informations to programs which a don't wanna run on battery and when i close display, laptop doesn't susspend. <raffytaffy> hi <kdavf> Is there support for sony vaio motion-eye camera? <kdavf> I understand this isn't for "support" I just want a yes or no answer. thx <kdavf> Ok. Well, er, thanks for the info... em... not. #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-25 <SuperTeece> hi all <Fujitsu> Hi SuperTeece. <SuperTeece> I see this is not a place for questions so I will head to #ubuntu and fight the crowd, lol <Fujitsu> 'tis a formidable crowd that lurks there, yes. <SuperTeece> Yeah can be heard to keep up with... running Fiesty yet? <Fujitsu> For about 4.5 months, yes. <SuperTeece> Ahh I just downloaded the newly advertised beta. I didn't feel comfortable with the super new one that has been out. <SuperTeece> I will say this though, I just discovered fwcutter for the firts time... how long has it been around? <Fujitsu> No idea. <SuperTeece> It installed my bcm4318 like it is the oldest supported card in the linux world <Fujitsu> Nice. <crimsun> heh, my bcm4311 is craptastic <SuperTeece> install troubles? <crimsun> nope <crimsun> I installed over the wired iface <SuperTeece> I'm looking at modding mine to have external antennas, I can't find anywhere online that it has been done so I am pretty excited / scared <SuperTeece> so if this channel is not for support... what goes on here? <Fujitsu> Not so much these days :-/ <SuperTeece> ubuntu homepage crashed... <crimsun> someone mentioned digg <SuperTeece> lol <SuperTeece> nah, the forums are still up <SuperTeece> registered with freenode, not sure what that gets me... lol <Ubugtu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): ubugtu will be taken offline and integrated with ubotu - epect some downtime <awesomess3> Hi everyone! Anyone know how to open a laptop correctly, for an HP Pavilion? <crimsun> err, more precisely? <crimsun> this DV6205US works fine (now) under Feisty #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-26 <vox754> I was wondering if this "laptop team" would provide additional support to the "ndiswrapper" project. The current developer has stated that he may do some serious job if he could work on 64 bit processor and multiple core machine. <vox754> Donations are always welcomed, but in this case the new hardware would be great help to develop better code, specially attending issues with SMP. I'm asking here because I think it is in the best interest of Ubuntu developers to support the ndiswrapper project which provides wireless access to countless users. With better networking support Ubuntu would benefit greatly. <vox754> The developer of ndiswrapper is a serious programmer, so you can guarantee he'll do his best with the new hardware. If the people in here are just users and don't have that much experience with what I'm talking, then you could perhaps redirect me to the right people. I think Canonical could back up the ndiswrapper project without problems. <vox754> caravena, hey are you part of the "laptop team"? <caravena> vox754: I create my report. <caravena> My report of my notebook. <vox754> do you know what it takes to get a laptop from Canonical? <vox754> caravena, is this channel any active? <caravena> vox754: jajaa <caravena> Yes <caravena> Active is channel. <caravena> 23 users... <vox754> caravena, seriouslly <vox754> caravena, I want to contact anyone that can donate a laptop or machine with amd64 and symmetric multi processor to the ndiswrapper project. I think Canonical can donate something like that. Are you familiar with ndiswrapper? <caravena> Yes <caravena> Ndisdwwapper very important <caravena> Chipset broadcom and others. <caravena> moment pliss searching contact <vox754> I've been talking to the developer and he says that a new hardware may allow him to improve things, specially for those with amd64 and smp. I think Ubuntu should definitely support an effort like this since this distribution is clearly aimed at desktop users, who want to see their hardware working flawlessly, without having to do a lot of things. <mjg59> Best that they avoid ndiswrapper, then <vox754> mjg59, ndiswrapper is actually very easy to set up... if the drivers are the correct ones. What experience do you have? <mjg59> That ndiswrapper bugs are effectively impossible for us to work on, and can expose themselves in a wide variety of different and painful ways that end up wasting significant portions of time <vox754> mjg59, are you experienced in programming? Or how do you know they are bugs? <mjg59> vox754: I'm a kernel developer <vox754> oh, that's good, then I guess you can do some serious work with the kernel and ndiswrapper <mjg59> I don't touch non-free code <vox754> which is... <mjg59> Pretty much anything that ndiswrapper loads <vox754> but ndiswrapper itself is free. Do you need to manipulate the proprietary drivers when working with ndiswrapper? <mjg59> Once proprietary drivers are running in kernel-space, they can interfere with any other aspect of the kernel. <vox754> interesting... Still, do you agree that ndiswrapper is an essential part for a lot of Ubuntu users? <mjg59> No, I'd prefer that we didn't ship it at all <vox754> interesting opinion <mjg59> It means that whenever someone hits a bug in a native (and supportable) Linux driver, they just move to ndiswrapper instead and the bug never gets fixed <vox754> oh... but what about those chipsets that lack native support? <mjg59> Sucks. <mjg59> There's only one, anyway <mjg59> Oh, I guess two if anyone's still stuck with Inprocomm stuff <vox754> mmm... I h a v e ... inpro... <vox754> .aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <vox754> no, but seriously, are most chipsets now supported? <mjg59> Yes <vox754> I tell you, I practically owe my Ubuntu to ndiswrapper. So I guess some of us still have to support it. <vox754> then what is the future of wireless devices, do you see any sudden increase in native support? what about each card that comes out? do they use standards now? * mjg59 fixes HP suspend/resume <mjg59> Which brings the number of bugs I care about down to a managable number. Hurrah! <tritium> Gah, even the new 2.6.20-13 upload doesn't fix Atheros AR5212 <tritium> I had high hopes for the new atheros driver <tritium> How are things, mjg59? <mjg59> Non-free drivers? Just say no. <tritium> Well, it's my work laptop (T43p). <tritium> mjg59: this might be a problem for laptop support on feisty * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-laptop.log #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-27 <zenlinuxNH> Given that this channel is not for support, would it be out of line for me to ask about anyone's experiences with Ubuntu on a Dell Latitude D620? I'm seriously considering buying one. <Nailor> mjg59: ipw3945 has busted in latest Feisty updates. You have any idea is it being fixed? <Nailor> It doesn't resume from suspend (and it has at least some tickets) <ppd> hi. I'd like to ask a newbie question: If I have a laptop with non working suspend on feisty, can I somehow provide information so that it can probably be fixed? <crimsun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies <crimsun> read the "most common information needed" <ppd> thanks a lot. If I can't get it working I'll file a bug #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-30 <davisc> Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam still active? <davisc> mjg59: Suspend etc. worked for a while after you fixed it, broke at some stage and now is fixed again when I upgraded to Feisty :-) <mjg59> Ok, that's reassuring in a way :) <davisc> Keyboard and mouse locked on resume at one stage but I think that's a recurring problem I have with my Dell rather than Ubuntu <davisc> mjg59: What's the best way to contribute to laptop testing? <mjg59> It's worth keeping the wiki up to date <mjg59> Other than that, I don't really have enough time to deal with much of it at the moment <mjg59> So I guess just file bugs whenever you find them :) <davisc> Fair enough <davisc> I take it ye don't want to hear about problems with Beryl ;-) <mjg59> Ha <mjg59> Best not :) <davisc> mjg59: We were up for 3 awards last week and I had all the presentations on different sides of the cube. But then the VGA connection for the projector didn't work (or I didn't have X configed to output on the VGA) :-( <davisc> OK. Not really specific to Ubuntu but anyone have recommendations for encrypted FSes? Thinking of putting one on the laptop #ubuntu-laptop 2007-03-31 <lastent> hi, im having problems with and embeded microphone can anyone help me in this channel? <PresuntoRJ> I have been using a Compaq Armada M700 for a while (since Breezy). How do I report my sucess, fails and issues? <PresuntoRJ> Now I am at Feisty ;) huge sucess, even WiFii <johnnybuoy> hi all! <johnnybuoy> is this a feisty channel? <joaha> Having i2c problem (I think) that appeared between 2.6.20-12 and 13 <joaha> Please redirect me if I'm in the wrong channel <joaha> Used to get: **WARNING** I2C adapter driver [] forgot to specify physical device <joaha> But now it tries to read a NULL pointer. <mdke> joaha: #ubuntu+1 is the best one, I think <auTONYmous> good morning <auTONYmous> anybody here? <joaha> mdke: Ok, thanks. #ubuntu-laptop 2008-03-01 <LuvSublime> Hello, I need some support, <LuvSublime> I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 amd64 on a HP Pavillion dv6000 <LuvSublime> I will be right back, moving to a different location. <LuvSublime808> hello, sorry about that <AmyTek> hi <AmyTek> so is this channel for testing? <excid3> im not sure lol <excid3> not many people talk on this chan <excid3> lol <excid3> were u looknig for something in particular? <AmyTek> infos to optimize my hp510 ubuntu feisty system <excid3> just looking to speed up boot/shutdown times? <AmyTek> so also help who have same laptop <AmyTek> nope, have a non freezing/crapped system <excid3> ive got a dv900t <excid3> *9000t <excid3> what are you wanting to optimize? <AmyTek> speed is ok if it works properly (but it doesn't as it should have to) <excid3> i sped up feisty with K Mandla's guide here <excid3> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/ <AmyTek> see no apps freeze and grayed <AmyTek> tnx <excid3> that tutorial got boot time to about 25seconds <excid3> :) <AmyTek> ops sorry but I still not have the habit to remember I'm no more using feisty but gutsy :P <excid3> ah <excid3> lol <excid3> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/howto-set-up-gutsy-for-speed/ <excid3> this is for gutsy :) <AmyTek> ta #ubuntu-laptop 2008-03-02 <AmyTek> excid3: was you to told me the site with docs for gutsy optimizations? <excid3> hey sorry i was at dinner <excid3> AmyTek, here is the site: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/howto-set-up-gutsy-for-speed/ <AmyTek> I got it, just to remember if was you <AmyTek> I solved my problems too other than added some tweaks from that guide <AmyTek> problem was my dvdrw <AmyTek> just updated firmware and system now doesn't hangs (as many users reported for hp5xx laptops) <AmyTek> and yes... it sounds so weird but seems to be true <AmyTek> tnx a lot <excid3> huh glad u got it fixed <excid3> how did u update the firmware? <AmyTek> from xp :| <AmyTek> I got it from a french site <AmyTek> I had problems also in xp enabling dma, now fixed linux and xp problem too <AmyTek> I think I'll write some kind of tutorial and host some apps for this mess <AmyTek> nite <TMM> hi all! I'm not entirely sure this qualifies as 'support', but I have a question of a rather technical nature: When a laptop goes out of suspend, it appears that the filesystems are brought back before USB devices, which leads to some trouble if files were open on a USB device before suspend <TMM> is this a bug? <TMM> if so, could someone please give me some pointers as to where to start looking for a potential solution? #ubuntu-laptop 2008-03-04 <Blouxou> Is there a particular model of laptop recommended for minimal-fuss compatibility with Ubuntu? <Blouxou> (Besides system76 and Dell) <kapute> How does one add ones laptop to the test database? <kapute> I have an AcerAspire4315 and would like to say what works and what doesn't #ubuntu-laptop 2008-03-06 <pegwin> hi all <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem <TokyoFrench> Hello there! <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem <TokyoFrench> Just to say I am planning to install Ubuntu on an Hitachi FLORA 270HX laptop which is old laptop <TokyoFrench> I have 128 Mo RAM, so not too sure if I can install the Ubuntu or if I should prefere XUbuntu... <TokyoFrench> anyway when I installed stackware I had to use some kernel options like noacpi (if I remember correctly) <TokyoFrench> And I don't see this laptop listed on the ubuntu webpage.... so, just hope it'll work <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, Xubuntu will barely be functional, but will work <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, I'd suggest installing a "command line" system only from the alternate disk, then adding the xubuntu-desktop package <gan> livecd which i created based on ubuntu is not booting on laptop <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, you may also consider openbox, there have been quite some posts about it on different blogs <MagicFab> gan, brand & model ? <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: Thanks for the tips! <gan> MagicFab, thinkpad IBM <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, also see some draft notes I have here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez/DefaultInstall <MagicFab> gan, see http://www.thinkwiki.org for great tips on thinkpads <MagicFab> gan, what exact TP model ? <MagicFab> gan, have you tried the latest hardy alpha ? a *lot* has improved for laptops <gan> MagicFab, no <MagicFab> gan, you may want to base your liveCD on Hardy if you' re targetting laptops - just my personal opinion <gan> MagicFab, ok <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: so my understanding is that installing command line system and then xubuntu-desktop will actually install less package than directly installing XUbuntu, and thus making a lighter system..? <MagicFab> no, TokyoFrench <MagicFab> it will install exactly the same <MagicFab> except you can use that same CD to install other Ubuntu flavors (like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc) <TokyoFrench> Mmm ok.. so the point is just testing the different flavors? <MagicFab> And in my personal experience, installing with the text based installler on older machines ALWAYS works, as opposed to using the standard live CD <TokyoFrench> ok <MagicFab> oups compiz crash :) <TokyoFrench> Thank you for helping. I really look forward to install this Ubuntu (I never tested before), cause I am too much a newbie for slackware haha <MagicFab> the point is install in ~20 minutes (text install, minimal system) then choosing whatever flavor you want and knowing nothing will crash or hang (graphcis specifically) later on <MagicFab> installing on 128ram will take a looooong time using the liveCD <TokyoFrench> sounds great <MagicFab> and if you're experimenting taht time adds up :) <TokyoFrench> :) <MagicFab> I am upgrading my system so I expect to loose my connection - brb <TokyoFrench> sorry if it's not the channel topic, but do you know if ubuntu is able to manage encrypted partitions? (cryptsetup) <MagicFab> Yes... well at install time the only option that works is encrypting everything <TokyoFrench> haha I like that <TokyoFrench> I alre <MagicFab> If you want to do it after install time it's still a rather manual-ish procedure <TokyoFrench> I never tried Ubuntu but I already love it ;-) <MagicFab> If you encrypt all as suggested in the partition manager during install time, you get a nice prompt at boot time asking for the password <TokyoFrench> great... but encryption doesn't slow general performances too much? <MagicFab> I have been using that on my main laptop for ~8 months and never had problems even when the machine was turned off brutally (battery drain) <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, on an older machine, you can feel performance drops specially if you encrypt your swap partition (because, well, swap is used often on very low memory conditions) <MagicFab> but on recent systems is not noticeable <TokyoFrench> yep... I actually plan to crypt one partition, that will generally be not mounted, and when I need it to be mounted, to unable the cache... <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the cash <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the Swap.... haha I should go to bed <MagicFab> Funny: todays update of Network manager includes this: " #432322 - network-manager: package upgrade kills network connections every time" <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, the easiest way to do that I foujnd was.... wait... <MagicFab> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/24/use-an-encrypted-usb-drivepartition/ <MagicFab> read all the comments, though <TokyoFrench> yep thks <TokyoFrench> lol et bien, ca chauffe sur certains forums ubuntu ;-) <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: thank you for your help, I will follow your advices <TokyoFrench> bybye #ubuntu-laptop 2008-03-08 <eddyMul> Hi. I'm testing a Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. I'm aware of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron1420, but that page describes a laptop with nVidia
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