#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-10
<happy> does anyone know if it is possible to load ubuntu on to a osx 10.4 partition without erasing the drive completely?
#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-11
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<Ravennoir> hi...
<Ravennoir> I would like to install linux on a external harddrive...to use it as an portable system like lice cds... do I need to make adjustments?
<Ravennoir> or is there a hardware check on each reboot?
#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-12
<jayphi> i tried to boot ubuntu from my second hard drive but it gives me the message /bin/sh:  can't access tty; job control off  Can someone please help?
#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-17
<FLIPeR> hi
<FLIPeR> can i have a second os suck as winXP allong with ubuntu?
<FLIPeR> "such as"......
#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-18
<nathanp> hmmmm, anyone here?
<nathanp> i'm looking for installation help... i cannot get the X installation method to work and i need to work around
<dantolini> hi. anybody present?
#ubuntu-boot 2006-09-21
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<simonc_67> Hi all, I'm having problems with a netboot. Using dapper & edgy. The pxeboot works fine, but I've setup a local mirror using the ubuntu alternate cd mounted loopback. The install proceeds fine but I get message "Bad archive mirror" The virtual console tells me the right release file is being interrogated. Any ideas. Could this be the debian busybox/glibc problem?
#ubuntu-boot 2007-09-07
<don-o> hmm. popular place. not :(
#ubuntu-boot 2007-09-10
<sboss> ?
#ubuntu-boot 2008-09-26
<Guest98977> help me plezz
<Guest98977> any1 help me?
<Isaac_> join #ubuntu
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-09
<popey> heh, there was nobody here when I came in earlier :)
<Keybuk> I use it when I need to :)
<popey> this update is taking an age
<popey> moved onto reloading cupsd, but its taking minutes to do stuff that normally takes seconds
<popey> no disk IO
<popey> cpu idle
<popey> iiinteresting, i was doing the update from tty0, just logged in and all the stuff rushed through
<popey> as if it was waiting on some desktop component.. dbus perhaps
<Keybuk> most likely dbus yeah
<popey> fingers crossed, rebooting
<popey> Keybuk: http://popey.com/~alan/bootcharts/
<Keybuk> ok
<Keybuk> not bad
<Keybuk> feeling more adventurous?
<popey> sure
<Keybuk> add the ubuntu-boot/staging/ubuntu PPA
<Keybuk> install initramfs-tools, usplash and gdm from there
<Daviey> heh, i came here an hour or so ago and it was empty. :)
<popey> get the hint? ;)
<popey> Keybuk: http://popey.com/~alan/bootcharts/ updated
<Keybuk> popey: this has a HDD rather than an SDD?
<popey> yes
<Keybuk> ok
<Keybuk> run "status sreadahead" now ?
<popey> stop/waiting
<Keybuk> ok and you have a /var/lib/sreadahead/pack?
<popey> yup
<Keybuk> ok
<Keybuk> reboot and get another chart
<popey> ok
<Keybuk> sweet, thanks
<popey> np
<Keybuk> no smoke coming out of the sides?
<popey> heh
<popey> no
<popey> not logged in yet tho :)
<Daviey> Keybuk: is it okay to sent you a url here?
<Keybuk> sure
<Daviey> http://bootchart.daviey.com/
<Daviey> send/send/ obv.
<Keybuk> what's "dahdi" ?
<popey> heh, asterisk crud?
<popey> :)
<Daviey> yah
<Daviey> Keybuk: dahdi replaced zaptel
<Daviey> having that on there, does it make the results less useful?
<Keybuk> nope
<Keybuk> it shouldn't be any faster
<Keybuk> but it should work
<Keybuk> the chart is so I can see the interaction between the different proceses and make sure it's doing the right thing
<Daviey> well that box is from a "used" box, the only other box i have running karmic is pretty vanilla, so i guess that won't add much.
<Keybuk> right, I've tested vanilla to destruction
<Keybuk> and just about every unusual filesystem combination I can think of
<Keybuk> need to see how it holds up in the real world before sticking it in the archive
<Daviey> ZFS/Fuse? :)
<popey> ecryptfs, raid?
<Daviey> yucky dmraid / mdad ?
<popey> Keybuk: seems to have broken g-p-m a bit
<popey> screensaver and suspend not working for example
<Keybuk> are you on -10?
<popey> yes
<Keybuk> suspend is broken on -10
<popey> ah ok
<popey> Keybuk: my laptop wont boot anymore :S
<popey> Keybuk: last thing it does is mountall: Unable to write pid file: Read-only file system, and init: module-init-tools main process (1163) terminated with status 1
<popey> the disk light is always on
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-10
<Keybuk> popey: are you sure it's not just checking the disk?
 * Keybuk hadn't put the progress indicator in yet
<popey> heh
<Keybuk> what does SAK W say?
<Keybuk> Alt+SysRq 8
<popey> I'm on a live cd atm
<popey> will faff more in the morning.. sorry to bother you
<Keybuk> Alt+SysRq T
<Keybuk> rh gith
<Keybuk> no probs
<popey> yes, all looks okay, it probably was a fsck as you suspected Keybuk
<Daviey> Keybuk: hmm, i'm not sure if it's related, but now getting an error along the lines of @mountall: cannot write pid file: read only filesystem@ or similar
<Daviey> gah, damn live enviroment .. @ should be "
<Daviey> that is with the non-staging PPA
<Daviey> Keybuk: Ah, it seems it was possibly silently fsck'ing..  Guess i should have just waited, rather than booting into a live enviroment :)
<Daviey> ho hum.
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-15
<popey> oooo nice fade down of the splash thing on shutdown
 * popey puts scotts crack on his old 1GHz celeron laptop
<popey> should be fun
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-16
<Michalxo_> hello
<Keybuk> hello
<Michalxo_> is it normal to stop keyb working when in gdm logging screen -> ctrl+alt+f1 -> back to f7
<Michalxo_> and keyb is working no more
<Keybuk> no
<Michalxo_> well.. it happens to me.. did 3 times in a row.. to be sure :D
<Michalxo_> and got some images of mountall problem I have with ntfs-3g
<Michalxo_> will uppload in a moment
<Michalxo_> cjwatson, I am here, I caught your last message
<Keybuk> the keyboard issue is likely an X problem, unrelated to boot changes
<Keybuk> (your keyboard would either work, or not at all, switching to/fro console shouldn't make a difference)
<Michalxo_> ok I'll past it then there :)
<Michalxo_> well.. it works here, it works there.. then it works no more :)
<Keybuk> iz gtk bug
<Michalxo_> http://pastebin.org/18318
<Keybuk> *reading8
<Michalxo_> dunno how to make it in 1 link :(
<Keybuk> so your two ntfs filesystems didn't mount
<Keybuk> but otherwise your boot worked?
<Michalxo_> yes
<Michalxo_> and on shutdown, I have that error message of mountall
<Keybuk> fuse: failed to create temporary directory
<Keybuk> seems to be the key message here
<Keybuk> the STOP/CONT thing?  don't worry about that - that's just a random artefact of the shutdown sequence
<Michalxo_> well.. I know nothing about that :(
<Michalxo_> haha ok :)
<Keybuk> could you try something for me
<Keybuk> boot it up
<Keybuk> and open a terminal
<Keybuk> then run
<Keybuk> sudo -s
<Keybuk> that'll give you a root terminal
<Keybuk> then run
<Keybuk> echo -n add > /sys/block/sda/sda1/uevent
<Keybuk> echo -n add > /sys/block/sda/sda6/uevent
<Keybuk> then see if your two windows partitions are mounted
<Michalxo_> well.. can't I do it here?
<Keybuk> Michalxo_: "here" ?
<Michalxo_> or you mean recovery?
<Michalxo_> why reboot :-/
<Keybuk> oh, you're on the system now?  yes you can do it now
<Michalxo_> I am there :)
<doko> Keybuk: udev isn't running as well
<Keybuk> I didn't say "reboot", just "boot" :)
<Michalxo_> heh
<Keybuk> doko: please take a ticket - I'll be with you shortly :p
<Michalxo_> Keybuk, should taht echo change something in file?
<Michalxo_> they are not mounted
<Keybuk> ok
<Keybuk> Michalxo_: what does "status mountall" say ?
<Michalxo_> start/running, process 1159
<Keybuk> ah, no, I see
<Keybuk> it already tried to mount them and failed, and doesn't try again
<Keybuk> Michalxo_: thanks for your help, I can see what's wrong
<Michalxo_> so? :) update will be soon out?
<Keybuk> yes
<Michalxo_> thank you... btw ntfs / ntfs-3g in fstab = that big difference?
<Keybuk> no, it understands both
<Keybuk> the problem you have is that it tries to mount the ntfs partitions while the root filesystem is still read-only
<Michalxo_> cause with ntfs it works good
<Michalxo_> aha
<Keybuk> and since ntfs-3g is handled by fuse, this can't work, because it needs at least /tmp to be writable
<Michalxo_> ah, I see
<Keybuk> ntfs is handled in-kernel, so might not
<Michalxo_> ok then
<Keybuk> the mounting while / is read-only is a bit of an optimisation
<Keybuk> it seems to be a bit over-ambitious
<Michalxo_> :)
<Michalxo_> ok then :) anything you need more from me?
<Keybuk> no, thank you very much for your help
<Michalxo_> welcome, thanks for upcoming patch and work :)
<Michalxo_> bye! :)
<Keybuk> doko: right
<Keybuk> you said that udev was not running?
<cjwatson> Keybuk: where does revision control for mountall live?
<Keybuk> cjwatson: /home/scott/work/native-upstart/mountall
<cjwatson> ah :)
<cjwatson> bzr init it is, then
<Keybuk> I can't push to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/karmic/mountall :-(
<Keybuk> oh, but I can if I put /ubuntu on the end
<Keybuk> cjwatson: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/karmic/mountall/ubuntu
<cjwatson> cool, thanks
<Keybuk> pull again, hadn't pushed the pending changes
<doko> Keybuk: yes
<Keybuk> doko: that's odd
<Keybuk> do you see any udev output on the console?
<doko> Keybuk: no
<doko> only running process beisdes kernel processes is mountall
<doko> hmm, /var is on it's own partition, mount says it's mounted ro, but it's not the partition (just see a lock and a run dir)
<Keybuk> doko: mount lies until the root filesystem is mounted, remember
<Keybuk> hmm
<Keybuk> doko: what does "status udev" say?
<doko> Keybuk: udev stop/waiting
<Keybuk> try "start udev"
<cjwatson> Keybuk: did you notice Steve uploaded mountall 0.1.5?
<Keybuk> cjwatson: no
<cjwatson> conversion to dh, probably supersedes your pending change if you're OK with it
<Keybuk> argh, why the fuck did he do that?
<cjwatson> so that we don't have to remember to use dh_installchangelogs?
<Keybuk> you don't change people's packaging to another system without at least talking to them
<cjwatson> 10:04 <slangasek> Keybuk: any good reason for me to not switch mountall to dh 7, so we don't have to worry about missing things like dh_installchangelogs in the future? :)
<cjwatson> I guess he was in a rush or something
<Keybuk> well, he can maintain it then
<Keybuk> I'll reassign all the mountall bugs to him
<doko> Keybuk: does start, then I get hundreds of messages "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, Superblock last mount time is in the future". after that I can't enter anything
<cjwatson> gah
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-22
<tormod> cjwatson, I have a merge request for casper, should I assign it to you?
<cjwatson> sure, go ahead
<tormod> thanks done
<tormod> if possible I would also like to know if you have an opinion on bug 392510
<tormod> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/392510 d*mnit
 * tormod looks for the bug bot
<tormod> because the debian guys have all the time in the world but karmic is closing  in
<tormod> the question is whether to break broken configurations
<tormod> I say yes, to save valid, non-broken configs
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-26
<less1> Hi, I am working on booting ubuntu over internet using httpfs and iscsifs.. I wanted to know whom to contact for questions about such work?
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-27
<less1> anyone around?
#ubuntu-boot 2009-09-28
<less1> Hi, anyone around?
#ubuntu-boot 2010-09-13
<TheBiggerGuycom> Hi, is there anyone who can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/637172
#ubuntu-boot 2010-09-29
<candoman> I've installed 10.04 AMD64 on an Intel core i3 laptop inside of Win7....on boot, Ubuntu hangs....any known issues?
#ubuntu-boot 2011-09-01
<RickG> anybody here?  I have a story about LiveCD 11.04 64 bit on Dell Vostro 3750
#ubuntu-boot 2011-09-21
<sdsad> ubuntulog_ are you there?
#ubuntu-boot 2012-09-18
<leung> hello~
<leung> anybody here~?
#ubuntu-boot 2014-09-13
<evan2645> hi people. quick and easy question. how is dhclient invoked during boot on 14.04?? can't find init script or upstart configuration for neither dhclient or network-manager
#ubuntu-boot 2014-09-19
<brokebit> Hi Everyone. Would this be the place to ask questions about user upstart jobs?
#ubuntu-boot 2014-09-21
<VBguy> hello, i am looking for help with the grub after upgrading from 14.04.1 to 14.04.4
#ubuntu-boot 2017-09-06
<manheim_> hello
#ubuntu-boot 2019-09-01
<soundwave> uuntulog, are you a real person
<soundwave> ubuntulog, are you a real person

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