#kubuntu-devel 2005-03-31 <froud> amu: were you aware that there already was a knetwork-conf user manual? http://webcvs.kde.org/kdereview/doc/knetworkconf/ <froud> amu: but it seems that even the KDE documentation manager Lauri, did not know about it <froud> amu: seems also that somebody has started with kynaptic. mvo and mitario should be intrested in that <froud> Riddell: r you awake * Beineri has been thinking about the packages/dependencies and came to the conclusion that he doesn't like the current approach. <Beineri> Kubuntu defaults/desktop and KDE packages are unnecessary geared into each other <Beineri> eg kdegraphics (it's not called kubuntu-kdegraphics!) should install the complete kdegraphics module - not more (gwenview) and not less (kview). <Beineri> kdegraphics is a meta-package for people who want a pure KDE imo <Beineri> so kdegraphics chould be changed and removed as dependency from kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop should depend directly on gwenview and the parts of kdegraphics it needs (kpdf, ksnapshot, ...) * Beineri is aware that this would lead to movement of kdegraphics to universe ;-) <Kamion> FWIW that just involves changing the kubuntu-hoary desktop seed; the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is entirely autogenerated <Kamion> Beineri: no it wouldn't <Kamion> main is more than base+desktop; you can put kdegraphics in supported or whatever just fine <Beineri> Kamion: even when some parts of the KDE kdegraphics module/tarball would be only available in universe? <Kamion> er, if you put kdegraphics in supported then all of kdegraphics would be eligible for promotion to main <Kamion> if you didn't, then they wouldn't be (at least not for that reason alone) <Kamion> the seeds are a list of what we want to support in various categories. If the Kubuntu guys don't want to support all of kdegraphics, then indeed they shouldn't put kdegraphics in a seed <Kamion> but that doesn't necessarily follow from making the desktop seed more specific :) <Kamion> I'm not sure "people who want a pure KDE" is a viable goal though; anybody who goes for a specific distribution is to some extent buying into what that distribution does, and for example the Kubuntu guys may well be applying patches not all of which would be considered "pure KDE" by everyone <Kamion> (I've no idea if they are or not, but patch-application is a standard example here) <Beineri> replace "pure KDE" with "all of KDE" maybe for better understanding <Kamion> nod <Kamion> anyway I guess you want replies from the Kubuntu guys, I'm just giving the general seed-handling perspective :) <Beineri> Kamion: sure, just dumping my thoughts here for them :-) <Kamion> (I maintain germinate, so that's what I tend to think of first) <Beineri> atm it's at least inconsistent: eg gwenview is dep of kdegraphics and not in desktop seed, while eg konversation is not dep of kdenetwork and in desktop seed <Beineri> btw, in Distrowatch.com's "Page Hit Ranking" for "Last 1 Month" "Kbuntu" is on rank #29 today ;-) <Beineri> with 150 Hits per Day (over last month) <Beineri> btw2, the last news entry on http://konserve.sourceforge.net/ is a year old <dannya> hey riddell - what do you think to mxcl's suggestion to use the colour scheme to tint the images in the about pages? <Riddell> dannya: if someone can make it work then go ahead <dannya> hehe <dannya> I think that it could also be extended to any other use of images in kde, potentially... <dannya> eg. sidebar images... <Riddell> it is the case with kmenu side image <dannya> yep <dannya> well, you know wizard sidebar images?... <Riddell> right <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/stats.html <Beineri> 52.5% Windows users ;-) <Riddell> yep :) <Riddell> 14 BeOS users is impressive <Qerub> that's eugenia :) <Beineri> Riddell: did you read my earlier thoughts today here? <Riddell> Beineri: about meta packages? <Beineri> Riddell: yes <Riddell> Beineri: I want to do that properly post-hoary but at the moment playing with meta packages is the quickest way to do it since changing the seeds means going through other people <Riddell> but I do plan to tidy it up <Beineri> ah :-| <mdz> Riddell: what's the issue? <Beineri> mdz: scroll back 10 hours :-) <mdz> yes, I think much of that stuff should move into the seeds <mdz> Riddell: moving things from universe to main means going through other people in any case; it's a manual process <mdz> the way it currently works is that you upload packages with changed dependencies, elmo notices them and emails me asking if it's ok to move the packages, I ask you whether you did it intentionally and whether the result is OK, and then confirm to elmo that the changes can be carried out <mdz> it would be much better for you to go through me or amu or Kamion and ask for a seed change directly * Kamion tends to agree <Kamion> and it would result in a much more explicit list of what we want to support, which post-hoary will probably be important for deprecation cycles and such <apokryphos> The knetworkconf package not work? Installed, but no excecutable <Qerub> apokryphos: check your kde control center.. <apokryphos> Qerub: oh, so I see. Thanks. :) <apokryphos> Anyone any idea on the libkcal2 package? It's ruining possibility for installation of kde-devel #kubuntu-devel 2006-03-01 <_Sime> allee: next bug fix release of guidance will fix most of these problems. (I've been testing and fixing things here in the meantime). <Riddell> Lure: no idea <allee> _Sime: 'k when you know it, no problem ;) <Lure> have you seen this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/29691 <Lure> IMHO very good points... <Lure> but probably for Dapper+1 <Hobbsee_away> allee: adept? what's that? :P <Hobbsee_away> i dont use it either * allee can't use adept. Too complicated for dozends of computers <Hobbsee> hehe <allee> Lure: nice report. Is anyone working on kdesystemsettings? <Hobbsee> ah yes, i remember thinking that was a nice report <Riddell> allee: icefox has done a qt4 version I think <Hobbsee> allee: possibly tonio_, but i doubt it <Riddell> and I do hope to fix some of the problems with the current version for dapper <allee> btw. has anyone a klipper action so one can upload current selecton to nopaste or whatever in one go? <allee> yeah, would be good to get the infamous systemsetting behaviour fixed <allee> Riddell: do you know if Tonio is working on (k)netswitch behind the scene? <Riddell> allee: klipper, no but good idea <Riddell> allee: which infamous behaviour? <Riddell> allee: he's in contact with the authors <allee> the resizing <Riddell> resizing is only an issue if you double click <allee> Riddell: I've a long list of things to fix in the pkgs, but when he works on it, it makes so sense to do the same <sebas> Riddell: Remove the old display module :-) <Riddell> sebas: that's been done <sebas> Ah, excellent :) <sebas> You'll be here tomorrow night? <allee> Riddell: oh, knetswitch is still not in archive. does this mean it's to late for *netswitch <sebas> Late, I guess? <Riddell> sebas: yes <Riddell> will probably go straight to grand place <sebas> Riddell: Ah, I'm not sure how to handle stuff yet. <sebas> Maybe people need to show up at Grand Place, but I'm tempted to leave a list of people allowed for the acolon@example.com. <sebas> Having to stay the whole night at JB until everybody is in his room doesn't sound too attractive to me. <Riddell> allee: tonio has uploaded k/gnetswitch, so they should get past NEW fine <sebas> I could send an email though, that I'll be at JB until 8, and thereafter at Roi d'Espagne. <Riddell> sebas: sounds like a good idea <Riddell> sebas: can you include your mobile phone number, lest I get lost? <allee> Riddell: good to know. (so codeine may make it in too :) * Hobbsee is jealous - she wants to come! <sebas> Riddell: Yeah, will do. <allee> Riddell: I remember you used a special pastebin(?) url that somehow had kubuntu in the url? I would like to use this for klipper action? URL? <Riddell> kubuntu.pastebin.com <Lure> bye everybody - time for bed <sebas> Riddell: Got my email? <sebas> Wifi is wonky here, and I want to make sure it's actually sent <Tulga> hi all! I want install xgl on dapper 4. please recommend me good howto <seth|lappy> the devel channel isn't the place to ask <seth|lappy> try #kubuntu or #ubuntu <viviersf> Riddell, ping <Tonio__> hello <robotgeek> hey Tonio_ <freeflying> Tonio_: hi <freeflying> Tonio_: can user select language thourgh kdm <hunger> Was kalarm's /usr/share/autostart desktop file fixed to be ignored in gnome? <hunger> Could somebody with that file installed check whether there is "OnlyShowIn=KDE" in the desktop files installed by this package into /usr/share/autostart? <Riddell> mornfall: are you still planning on doing the .deb installer? <mornfall> Riddell: we are past feature freeze now <mornfall> Riddell: i'll think about adding it to 3.0 target <mornfall> considering 3.0 will be a year from now (or more) -- that can be done <Riddell> yep, fine <mornfall> i can make a 2.0 branch if there's some desire to add (minor) features for eg dapper+1 * hunger should go packing for FOSDEM. * Riddell updating spec status <viviersf> Riddell, ping <Riddell> viviersf: hi <viviersf> lo :) <viviersf> Riddell, im new to making packages right <viviersf> i got package moo-0.1 <viviersf> now i compile it it makes moo-0.1-1 <viviersf> how i get it to go to moo-0.1-2 <viviersf> etc <viviersf> is there a command for the new version ? <Tm_T> viviersf: changelog? <viviersf> ya <viviersf> but is there a command to add a new one <viviersf> i know i can just copy and edit <Tm_T> prolly no, I think the point is that that all is defined with explanations in changelog <viviersf> okay <Tm_T> so we other know as well what are the differences between packages ;) <allee> viviersf: dch -> add a changelog item; dch -i # add a new version and a changelog item <Riddell> viviersf: dch -i * viviersf frowns @ Tm_T <viviersf> thanks Riddell :) <Riddell> allee said it first :) <viviersf> ok and allee <viviersf> haha <allee> viviersf: too late. your on ignore-list ;) <viviersf> Riddell, all kewl impi addons to kde is going to kubuntu now :) <Riddell> great :) <allee> viviersf: impi? <viviersf> i must just nag ajmitch to get me in as a motu <Tm_T> viviersf: yup, changelog ;) <viviersf> and you on how to get them into kubuntu <viviersf> allee south african distro <allee> cool. <Riddell> viviersf: do you have an account on revu? <viviersf> revu ? <viviersf> whats that Riddell <viviersf> i only got lp account <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de before you get MOTU (or even after) upload to revu to get packages reviewed <viviersf> kk <viviersf> but it wont matter now <viviersf> since feature freeze is on ? <Riddell> true, not sure if we can upload new packages now <viviersf> yup <viviersf> how would i go about it now to become motu <viviersf> since i cant upload packages <Riddell> fix bugs in existing ones I presume <Riddell> and you can still upload new packages to revu ready for dapper+1 <viviersf> ah <viviersf> :) <viviersf> so basicly anything i would find 'nice' to have in dapper+1 <viviersf> i can upload there ? <Riddell> yep <viviersf> kewl <viviersf> but theres no place to get an account <Riddell> ask raphink or siretat or sistpoty <Riddell> you'll need a gpg key <raphink> viviersf: send me a signed message with the gpg key you want to use <raphink> @ acolon@example.com <viviersf> kk <viviersf> hmm lemme find my gpg again <raphink> viviersf: and upload your key to keyserver.ubuntu.com too, that makes it easier <Tonio__> hi <allee> hi Tonio_ <Hobbsee> hey Tonio_ and allee * Hobbsee admires the pretty fonts with correct DPI, and the new splash screen * allee admires the people going to lunch and follows them <Tonio_> Hobbsee: are you fine ith those settings ? * Tonio_ is happy \o/ <Hobbsee> perhaps a little small - i went in and changed it to 10 :) - but yeah, they're very nice! <Hobbsee> it is deja vu sans, i take it? <Tonio_> hum, I would prefer 8 but it is hard to find a setting that feets everyone <Tonio_> 9 is a good average I think ;) <Hobbsee> definetly <Tonio_> I like 8 but that could really be too smal for other people <Tonio_> what about he icon size ? <Hobbsee> 8 would be way too small for here <Hobbsee> icons? <Tonio_> I have the feeling that the default one (48), is a bit too much for the desktop and konq no ? <Tonio_> the icon size <Tonio_> I really like 32 <Hobbsee> looks ok <Hobbsee> not sure what my default is though <Hobbsee> dont know - i dont use icons on my desktop - looks nice with teh black outline though <Tonio_> Hobbsee: do you use firefox ? <Hobbsee> Tonio_: yep <Tonio_> Hobbsee: did you notice the cursor is now the good one ? <Tonio_> not that horrible crappy hand <Hobbsee> very much so! * Hobbsee has been whining at that one for months! <Tonio_> hehe <Hobbsee> :P * Hobbsee munches on dinner while chatting * Tonio_ time for smoking + coffee <Tonio_> Hobbsee: it is not finished yet, so if you have any ideas, ask <Hobbsee> ok <Tonio_> I think it could be nice to set konq to autoscan for new modules and use artsdp by default <Tonio_> that would allow a out of the box working flash or java plugins, no ? <Hobbsee> presumably <Tonio_> there are lots of things like that that could be improved <Tonio_> all that has to be set after the installation in fact <Tonio_> except personnal wishies <Tonio_> but definitly, about everyone will install flash for example <Hobbsee> you know, it's *very* hard to make an announcement over a PA when someone's pulling puffer fish faces at you! <Hobbsee> that is true <Hobbsee> i havent, yet, i dont think...i should do that <Hobbsee> oh, Tonio_ - earlier in dapper, there was a systems setting thing in the kmenu, that let you navigate which bit of it you wanted to open - does that still exist somehow, or did that die? I found that kinda cool :) <Tonio_> still exists <Tonio_> but not activated by default <Tonio_> right click the K button, then configure, go in Menus <Tonio_> and activate........ dunno the english for this <Tonio_> french is "wuick navigation" or something like that <Tonio_> s/wuick/quick <Hobbsee> Tonio_: might be worth activating it - it was pretty useful <Hobbsee> ooh thankyou :) <Tonio_> hum, can be usefull yes, but I don't think it can be *that* usefull for standard users.... <Tonio_> anyway, I think we should create a group for the kde desktop <Hobbsee> ah ok <Tonio_> kde is a fantastic desktop manager but has so much possibilities that it needs a big bunch o configuration * Tonio_ has just noticed the fabulous work done on completion in bash on dapper <Tonio_> WOW <Hobbsee> true <viviersf> Riddell, im making a package for all service menus we want to add <Tonio_> viviersf: very nice idea :) <Tonio_> viviersf: but we cannot add new packages actually <Tonio_> or I missed something :) <Tonio_> viviersf: that can be done within kubuntu-default-settings <viviersf> no <viviersf> for dapper +1 <Tonio_> viviersf: ah ok <allee> viviersf: isn't it better to add the service menu desktop files to the pkg of the tool the service menu uses? <viviersf> the one im adding now is email <viviersf> so that will have to go into kmail <viviersf> and then there is the deb install one <viviersf> that will have to go into dpkg <viviersf> and im pretty sure they wont allow kde service menus in dpkg's package <allee> dpkg is essential so can be added to konqueror <allee> with kmail I see no problem, put it in debian/ dir and install it <viviersf> well i cant i make it so long <viviersf> its just to get them in <viviersf> since they cant go into kmail and konqueror atm <Tonio_> allee: still no internet at home, so it'll take a little moment before I subscribe to alioth <viviersf> understand allee ? <allee> viviersf: is a missing service entry a bug? bugfixes are still allowed ;) <allee> Tonio_: no problem. Should I import that is on revu in the meantime? <Tonio_> allee: sure <allee> Tonio_: 'k. Feel free to send me a diff when you make changes or checkin later ourself. <viviersf> no allee <viviersf> service entry = feature <allee> viviersf: :( I hoped to add codeine service menues. <Tonio_> allee: thanks for the missing knemorc profiles ;) <Tonio_> I still have stuff to do on k-d-s, I'll ad them :) * Tonio_ hates France Telecom <viviersf> heh allee <jpatrick> Riddell: can I fix malone #4385 ? <freeflying> Riddell: ping <Lathiat> whoah <Lathiat> how sweet is the new login <nlindblad> shots? <jpatrick> Lathiat: :) <Lathiat> nlindblad: try it yourself ;p <Lathiat> bit hard to get shots of the login process <jpatrick> nlindblad: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29426 w00t <nlindblad> hi jpatrick <nlindblad> looks nice <nlindblad> but you see that screen for a second or two <nlindblad> so why theme it? <jpatrick> just nice? <jpatrick> nice is used to describe biscuits <freeflying> I have some question about kdm , who can help me <nlindblad> freeflying: most people in this channel <freeflying> I just wonder wether kdm can select language before login * seaLne feels dirty after playing with pocket pc <jpatrick> right <Lathiat> anyone else noticed alt+drag window doesnt move it anymore? <jpatrick> does here (breezy :) ) <Lathiat> i mean on dapper <Lathiat> did on breezy <freeflying> Lathiat: I have used it 5 hrs ago <seaLne> dosen't seem to work for me <freeflying> s/ago/before <nlindblad> Lathiat: it does here (Dapper) <Lathiat> seems to depend where you drag the window <Lathiat> before it blanket worked * nlindblad is tired <jpatrick> as usual ;-) <jpatrick> re Lure <Lure> hi jpatrick <kmon> hi <jpatrick> hello kmon and seth <robotgeek> hey jpatrick kmon seth <kmon> hi everybody <robotgeek> my external monitor just worked, i am so happy :) <jpatrick> kmon: fix was uploaded yesterday <kmon> jpatrick: I've noticed <jpatrick> robotgeek: aren't most monitor's external? <robotgeek> jpatrick: from my laptop, i mean <jpatrick> :) <kmon> jpatrick: there are still some rough edges in kdm theme manager, but I believe it's an upstream issue <robotgeek> i can document in peace now <Lure> robotgeek: dual display? <robotgeek> Lure: hmm, no. just external monitor. i did not feel like mucking with xorg.conf <jpatrick> kmon: such as? <robotgeek> Lure: maybe a project for another day :) <Lure> robotgeek: I am waiting for new Display applet - it is supposed to have something <kmon> jpatrick: well, I seem unable to add the kdmthemes located in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ I beleive this is because the applet is designed to load kdm themes from a tar.gz (or similar) package <robotgeek> Lure: ah, that would be very nice. i had to plug my external in when computer starts, otherwise monitor doesn't detect <jpatrick> kmon: add the theme using it's .desktop file <jpatrick> kmon: or .xml (can't remember which) <kmon> jpatrick: Also, One bug which could be fixed, is that If I open kdm theme applet in system settings, then enter admin mode and press the show all button in system settings and the again load the kdm theme applet and error message pop's out saying the applet was already opened in system settings. <jpatrick> kmon: that's for all modules <jpatrick> not my fault =) <kmon> jpatrick: I have to close system settings and open it again to access it <kmon> jpatrick: ohh, I see <kmon> jpatrick: Then it's a known bug <jpatrick> yes <kmon> jpatrick: system settings is very nive, but has some rough bugs <kmon> jpatrick: localization doesn't work very well <jpatrick> kdmtheme/system settings? <kmon> jpatrick: system settings <kmon> jpatrick: many modules appear in english <jpatrick> yeah, known (need to translate) <kmon> jpatrick: ok. I can help there... I just need to get some time and get on with roseta <jpatrick> it's not in rosetta (yet) <kmon> does anyone know if the feature in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperRoadmap that says: "investigate best practice for kwallet to balance lack of intrusiveness with security." is planned for dapper or is a deferred goal? <kmon> One of the things I hate of using kwallet is that I have to enter a password for kopete. There should be an option to let some apps load the wallet without asking questions <Lathiat> therre is "always allow" you of course always need to put the password in once <Lathiat> iirc kopete has a bug <Lathiat> that keeps asking <jpatrick> not here <kmon> Lathiat: where's that option? <Lathiat> kmon: when it asks you to open the wallet, if you have to re-enter the apssword, thats different and possibly the bug i mentioned <kmon> my problem is that I don't want to be asked for a password for applications I've granted access to the wallet, for example: kontact or kopete <kmon> every time I log in kde, and launch kopete I have to enter the password <kmon> it's quite irritating <Tonio_> kmon: do you make usage of kwalletmanager ? <kmon> yes <Tonio_> okay <Tonio_> you set a password on the default wallet <Tonio_> if you want transparent acces, you have to set a blank password on the default wallet <Tonio_> that's the only solution <kmon> the thing is that once the wallet is loaded, I can launch other apps, (kontact) and I'm not asked for the password <Tonio_> that's normal because the wallet is opened <Tonio_> the problem is he opining of the wallet that prompts for a passwod <kmon> but I don't really want that solution, I want to be asked for the password on apps that aren't granted access to the wallet, otherwise no questions <Tonio_> so blank the password of the wallet "kdewallet" and you will not be prompted anymore <Tonio_> kmon: there is no other solution <Tonio_> hum <kmon> Tonio_: so... it's a bug or a feature? <jpatrick> neither <Tonio_> if an application isn't granted access <Tonio_> it will not acces to the wallet even if it is opened and blank password <kmon> ohh <kmon> I see <kmon> thanxs <Tonio_> you will have to grant acces once or definitly <Tonio_> that's a clean way to proceed :) <Tonio_> but I agree with you it would be nice to have a config option "if application granted, don't prompt for password" <Tonio_> that would be the best <kmon> Tonio_: that would be a nice addition <Tonio_> kmon: bugs.kde.org :) <Tonio_> post a feature request or vote if already exists ! <kmon> Tonio_: ok, I'll do it later * jpatrick looks for more bugs to fix <kmon> another question: anyone has flash working with konqueror? <jpatrick> No <kmon> I've installed flashplugin-nonfree <kmon> but it's not workling <kmon> and also, I've installed the java 1.4 rte from blackdown (it's in universe) but I don't have a plugin for konqueror <kmon> I've already filed bugs <kmon> but I wanted to know if it's me or this happens to everyone <jpatrick> I'm waiting for Gnash to be ready <Tonio_> kmon: did you go in konqueror options and click "search for new plugins"? <kmon> Tonio_: yes <Tonio_> hum........ <Tonio_> do you see flash in the plugins list ? <Tonio_> concerning java I would suggest you to install it within the plf repo or something, and install version 1.5, that way better that crappy 1?4 <kmon> Tonio_: the flash plugin is not listed <Tonio_> kmon with package did you install ? <Tonio_> cause you have one with the plugin itself <kmon> flashplugin-nonfree <Tonio_> and another one with download the files to remotelly install it ;) <Tonio_> let me check <Tonio_> Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer <Tonio_> This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia (or mirror). It is useful for mozilla browser variants. <Tonio_> it is important to read the desc ;) <Tonio_> remove this one and install flashplugin-mozilla <Tonio_> this is the good one <kmon> it doesn't download anything: <kmon> avier@a1691:~$ sudo update-flashplugin <kmon> Password: <kmon> Checking new upstream release... <kmon> I: checking http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/site_ucsc.html... <kmon> No new version is detected. ( = not installed) <Tonio_> flashplayer-mozilla ? <kmon> let's see... <Tonio_> flashplayer-mozilla install directly the plugin <kmon> ok, let's see... <kmon> Tonio_: now it works <kmon> Tonio_: thanks <kmon> Tonio_: we are in feature freeze right? so there aren't going to be new packages/features from now on? <jpatrick> kmon: only bug fixes <kmon> jpatrick: so, I imagine kat will stay as it is now... <jpatrick> yes <kmon> and kde 3.5.2? <jpatrick> exception <kmon> nice <kmon> kdesu doesn't have a patch for not asking the password if it was entered oin 15 minutes like gksu has? <kmon> jpatrick: is there any way to configure konqueror's drag & drop to do a default action instead of asking everytime is I want to move a file, copy or link it? <jpatrick> not that I know of * kmon leaves, goodbye <jpatrick> hunger: you around mate? <Lure> Any idea how to properly fix this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/30301 <verwilst> hello! <verwilst> anybody going to fosdem? #kubuntu-devel 2006-03-02 <LaserJock> Riddell: ping? <Hobbsee> LaserJock: idle for 12 hours - must be out for the night <Hobbsee> and morning <Hobbsee> no, still night - i cant figure out timezones <LaserJock> 12 hours, jeeze. How can he survive without IRC that long ;-) <Hobbsee> lol <LaserJock> I don't drink coffee, I just start IRC <Hobbsee> hehehe <Hobbsee> yeah, or start browsing the net, either works <LaserJock> yeah, first thing in the morning, I pop open the laptop and get on IRC and check the email. <Hobbsee> heh - i see that i'm not alone <Hobbsee> much to my mother's discust <Hobbsee> s/discust/disgust <LaserJock> and my wife's :( <Hobbsee> hehe yeah <LaserJock> I've heard more than once, "You need to divorce your computer!" <Hobbsee> eep! <Hobbsee> i've heard the "sharing the same computer is spelt divorce" but not that one <Hobbsee> ugh, malone search is borked. <Hobbsee> or not * Hobbsee goes bug squishing <freeflying> Hobbsee: morning <Hobbsee> hey freeflying <Hobbsee_away> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/32442 for tonio_ <LaserJock> Riddell: ping? <Hobbsee> you're kidding...this cant be such a simple fix for a bug that's been annoying me for ages... <Hobbsee> no, it's not, the bug is still there. didnt think so. <LaserJock> Hobbsee: do you ever get the feeling that your just talking to yourself :-) <Hobbsee> hehe <Hobbsee> sure <freeflying> Hobbsee: r u here now ? <Hobbsee> freeflying: yeah <freeflying> Hobbsee: can ou play mp3 file with amarok-xine now <Hobbsee> freeflying: yep <freeflying> Hobbsee: with the latest amarok in dapper ? <Hobbsee> yes <Hobbsee> no, wait <Hobbsee> 1.3.8 <freeflying> Hobbsee: 1.3.8-0ubuntu6 <Hobbsee> Version: 2:1.3.8-0ubuntu6 <Hobbsee> yep <freeflying> use xine as engine <Hobbsee> yep <freeflying> Hobbsee: I can not play mp3 with amarok-xine .although I've w32codecs installed <Hobbsee> i dont have w32codecs installed, my system plays mp3's fine <freeflying> Hobbsee: if you haven't w32codecs installed , how can you play mp3 with amarok-xin <Hobbsee> i honestly have no idea... <Hobbsee> at least, i ahvent installed it, so unless it installed it via a previous repo or something, or somehow carried over with my /home folder...i dont know <Lathiat> w32codecs is needed with xine i think yeh <Lathiat> its a dodgy package <Lathiat> google for ubuntu w32codecs and you can find it <Lathiat> or install gstreamer0.8-mad and amarok-gstreamer <freeflying> Lathiat: it's seems that amarok can not uset gst as engine now <nlindblad> how come there's no more xorgcfg in Dapper? <Hobbsee> man this thing likes having problems! <kmon> hi <Hobbsee> hey kmon <kmon> kubuntu seems to be more polished as of today, congratulations everyone :) <kmon> anyone know if usplash-down will enter dapper? <kmon> or on the contrary it's been deferred? <OculusAquilae> kmon: what is usplash-down? <kmon> usplash but when rebooting/halting the distro <kmon> so insted of a forward progress bar you need a backwards bar <OculusAquilae> ah <OculusAquilae> thanks <kmon> lastest usplash packages included a executable called: /usr/sbin/usplash_down <kmon> but it's not used yet <kmon> at least in kubuntu <jjesse> just wanted to say upgraded finally to flight 4 w/ a fresh install and it rocks :) <jpatrick> jjesse: cool :) <Lure> jjesse: true - it is just nice <Lure> jjesse: did you manage to configure KMail with Exchange <jpatrick> re jjesse_ <jpatrick> hey robotgeek <robotgeek> hey jpatrick <jpatrick> jjesse: any part of the docs I can help with? <robotgeek> jpatrick: heh, you can help with Kubuntu Desktop Guide too :) <jpatrick> robotgeek: ok, it's just that with FF I can't make NEW packages <robotgeek> jpatrick: heh, good for the doc team :) <jpatrick> :) <robotgeek> jpatrick: there's still a tips and tricks which needs major love <robotgeek> jpatrick: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html is the UDG, only the last section needs some major love <jpatrick> ok then: * jpatrick is playing Let There Be Love by Oasis on Don't Believe The Truth [amaroK] <jpatrick> ;-) * robotgeek would have kicked jpatrick in #kubuntu for that, lol * jpatrick gets doc svn <robotgeek> jpatrick: don't worry about the add-applications stuff not being in there, it has not been commited yet <jpatrick> robotgeek: the "getting more help" bit? <robotgeek> jpatrick: no, i am trying to maintain the structure as close to the UDG as possible. The second chapter isn't commited yet <robotgeek> jpatrick: getting more help is done, i think. <jpatrick> saw that <robotgeek> jpatrick: 4. Configuring Your System needs love :) <jpatrick> ok <jpatrick> too bad I only use KDE <robotgeek> hopefully, it will be up for review by next week. <robotgeek> jpatrick: i use kde only too, but we needs to make equivalent substituions, that makes it easy for us :) <robotgeek> jpatrick: i need to go right now, feel free to ask on mailing list/ -doc if you need anything <jpatrick> oh I see <jpatrick> you want me to do for KDG what UDG has done <robotgeek> jpatrick: exactly, no need to start from scratch :) <jpatrick> cya robotgeek <robotgeek> jpatrick: thanks for the help! <jpatrick> no problem <verwilst> hello Riddell <verwilst> you were at fosdem today? <verwilst> i went in for a few mins, but i don't saw anybody there i recognized :( <verwilst> didn't see* <jpatrick> hey LaserJock <LaserJock> hi jpatrick <LaserJock> is Riddell around? <jpatrick> No (I think) <LaserJock> hmm, jjesse? <seaLne> in that he hasn't said anything on irc so far today <jpatrick> I haven't seen him today (or yesterday) <jpatrick> me neither <jpatrick> s/me/him <jpatrick> LaserJock: can I help with Packaging Guide? <LaserJock> jpatrick: sure, I'm always needing help :-) <jpatrick> cool :) <LaserJock> in fact I was going to ask you if you could do a little section on pacakging for Kubuntu <jpatrick> fine :) <LaserJock> jpatrick: do you have a doc team svn repo checkout? <jpatrick> I have the svn here <jpatrick> going though it <LaserJock> jpatrick: ok, so the packaging guide is in generic/ , it also gets built into html acolon@example.com <jpatrick> I saw that <jpatrick> how can it be kubuntu-specific? <LaserJock> well, I mean packaging for KDE <jpatrick> okay <jpatrick> I see now <LaserJock> does that make sense? <jpatrick> 1) .pot file generation, etc <LaserJock> I mean, I just want to make sure any issues specific to Kubuntu(KDE) are addressed. <jpatrick> yes <jpatrick> gotta learn docbook.... <LaserJock> jpatrick: if you don't want to or don't have time you can just email me the text and I'll docbookize it ;-) <jpatrick> I'll be fine - I'll try * jpatrick just ran out of hdd space <LaserJock> jpatrick: uhh oh :( <Tm_T> jpatrick: =) <jpatrick> well on my /home hdd <Tm_T> jpatrick: rm -rf /prOn <jpatrick> :P * seaLne had a user earlier who managed to fill up a home partition with a 196Gb .xsession-serros file :-/ <LaserJock> wow <Tm_T> =) <jpatrick> seaLne: rofl <seaLne> Tm_T: surely it would be rm -rf ~/work before ~/pr0n :) <jpatrick> this is what happens when you rip too many cds <LaserJock> I've never been close to filling up that much space. I generally use about 20-30 GB out of 120GB <jpatrick> LaserJock: well in total I have around 16GBs space on this old thing <Tm_T> seaLne: sad but true, yes ;( <seaLne> heh * Tm_T have ~100GB useless backups <seaLne> speaking of backups anyone know how to work around differing versions of rdiff-backup breezy/sarge <LaserJock> hmm, I don't have any ~/pr0n, but Unreal Tournament and America's Army take up quite a bit ;-) <Tm_T> jpatrick: have you noticed those two brothers in #kubuntu does make a lot of noise? <seaLne> err dapper/sarge <jpatrick> tomas_ && another? <jpatrick> d'oh he left <Tm_T> :p <Tm_T> jpatrick: yup, I was almost ready to kick him but they gave up "international" part from conversation * nlindblad hugs Katapult * seaLne wonders why katapult won't start knode <jpatrick> seaLne: not in kmenu <seaLne> the only main difference i could see was it had an unknown icon for knode and never showed the exec icon <seaLne> jpatrick: is that the reason? katapult only shows stuff from kmenu? <jpatrick> LaserJock_away: for when you come back: http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot285fa.png <- how do make the "Generating..." part a subtitle? <jpatrick> seaLne: yep <jpatrick> it check .desktop files there i think <seaLne> ah, i was confused by why even xterm worked <LaserJock_away> jpatrick: <sect1> or <sect2> I think, wiki.ubuntu.com/DocBook and w.u.c./DocBookReference ;-) <seaLne> jpatrick: why can't it read all .desktop files? <nlindblad> whoever wrote katapult, I love you <jpatrick> nlindblad: tvo, Mez and some others * nlindblad hugs 'em <jpatrick> right-click icon -> About Katapult <jpatrick> seaLne: dunno <nlindblad> right-click where? <nlindblad> on the launcher? <seaLne> jpatrick: in breezy knode runs from katapult <jpatrick> right-click (systray) icon <jpatrick> hmm, not here <seaLne> jpatrick: that last comment in relation to knode? <jpatrick> I type it and nothing happens <nlindblad> I have no systray for it <seaLne> works for me with or without kontatct running <seaLne> 3.5.1? <jpatrick> yes <seaLne> strange <seaLne> anyone else on breezy able to test katapult and knode? <jpatrick> Tm_T: some people are been rude on #kubuntu <Tm_T> ? <Tm_T> jpatrick: tell me more (bit blind atm) <jpatrick> [21:14:06] <kylev> fucking lame <Tm_T> aaah <Tm_T> oh well, have to watch if I have a chance to kick some asses ;-P <jpatrick> but noisy today too <jpatrick> rock! http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot294vw.png <Tm_T> :o <apokryphos> jpatrick: how did you get the location bar to stay there? I do it, and (mysteriously -- I'm serious), the main toolbar and the location one go on to seperate lines and then absolutely refuse to stay on one again <apokryphos> though tbh I can't figure out how to get rid of the blasted Google bar, too (kind of consider it obsolete with the handy gg: konq shortcuts) <jpatrick> apokryphos: it was like that <apokryphos> it's been one of konqueror's recurring idiosyncrasies for me. Odd :P <nlindblad> OMG, I love yakuake <jpatrick> Tm_T: those two are gonna gibberish the whole day <jpatrick> nlindblad: you love alot of thing <jpatrick> things* <nlindblad> nah, just kick-ass KDE apps <Tm_T> I hate lot of things <Tm_T> atm I hate people in general <nlindblad> Tm_T: don't hate me! <jpatrick> I think he already does <Tm_T> ] ;= <jpatrick> ^^ he's a bull - they kill those in spain <Tm_T> yup <jpatrick> I've seen them at it <jpatrick> re allee <allee> hi jpatrick <toma> evening allee <allee> toma: hi <allee> toma: tonight is digikam bug day ;) * toma hides behind a big rock <allee> toma: last fix, fixed ppc but broke amd64 :( <toma> i saw it <toma> nice catch <allee> toma: I extract Gilles send patch version <allee> s/send/second/ <allee> toma: do you think you feel like working on media again before 0.9? <nlindblad> how do you switch between tabs in konsole? <toma> allee: i've worked on a library untill 4am this morning <allee> nlindblad: shift-left/right <allee> toma: oh, great. <toma> allee: i think that is a better solution. <allee> toma: I think Gilles work is important for semi-profis, but media is important for all ;) <nlindblad> thanks <allee> toma: agreed. I'm looking forward to use the lib for codeine <jpatrick> Tm_T: looks like they've gone to chat on msn <toma> allee: im just unsure what to do with the code, upload in playground or just plain copies where needed <toma> in other words, pack it or not <allee> toma: lets try them with two/three apps via copy. If API is proven to be flexible enough, but it in library <allee> sigh s/put/but/ <toma> oki <allee> s/but/put/ even <toma> i need two evenings to wrap it up next week, then i'll clean up digikam and maybe give you a patch for codeine <allee> whow that would be great!!!!!!!!!!!! <toma> yeah, strange thing is that all functionality is in kde, only very hidden, so it is just a convinience lib <Tm_T> jpatrick: yup <Riddell> hunger: at fosdem? <Tm_T> jpatrick: peaceful there now ;) <Tm_T> gnight -> <jpatrick> hello kmon <kmon> hi jpatrick <kmon> jpatrick: do you know if kubuntu will go with klaptop or kpowersave? <jpatrick> not sure <jpatrick> I think Lure was working on that <Lure> kmon: problem with kpowersave is that it does not go well with powernowd <Lure> and powernowd is required by *-desktop meta package <kmon> yes, the other day I was about to give it a go, but noticed that removal <kmon> so I didn't do it. <Lure> otherwise I like the design and split of daemon and applet code <Lure> but it does not go well with Ubuntu/g-p-m minimalistic way <Lure> It would be worth to open discussion with ubuntu-laptop people for Dapper+1 <Lure> maybe we can find a way for interoperability <Lure> jpatrick: where is the image and resolution specified for new default moodin <jpatrick> In it's config <Lure> Theme.rc seems not to be enough <jpatrick> :/ <Lure> I have changed Bacground and BaseResultion to match my screen, but I still get resized <jpatrick> that is odd <Lure> Readme mentioned that I should repackage and install again <jpatrick> try iy <jpatrick> it* <jpatrick> LaserJock: this is coming on really well <LaserJock> jpatrick: great <jpatrick> doing the REVU bit now <LaserJock> jpatrick: when you get a chunck done could you email it to me? it is easier if I deal with more than one small diff than one big one. <jpatrick> yes, I've read that <jpatrick> gonna finish revu-part and send <LaserJock> ok, great <jpatrick> too bad, Riddell removed kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff from the site <jpatrick> kubuntu section's html file isn't being created here <LaserJock> jpatrick: where? <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/572424 <LaserJock> jpatrick: could be it isn't validating or it is in with another section. #kubuntu-devel 2006-03-03 <kmon> good night everyone * kmon leaves <Hobbsee> bye kmon <Hobbsee> hey seth! <robotgeek> hey Hobbsee, seth <Hobbsee> hi robotgeek :) <robotgeek> Hobbsee: howz it going? <Hobbsee> pretty good, just woke up <robotgeek> Hobbsee: ah, nice. I'm at a friends house, meeting him after 3 years! <robotgeek> he's sleeping, but he's got wireless :) <Hobbsee> :) fun! <Tm_T> Hobbsee: o/ <Hobbsee> hey Tm_T <Tm_T> Hobbsee: how you're always up this late <Tm_T> ... you live in US? <Hobbsee> it's 10.38am sunday - no <crimsun> hah, try the other side of the world <Tm_T> Aus :) <Tm_T> 0139 here <Hobbsee> hehe <robotgeek> hi, can someone tell me what to use inplace of gstreamer, since kubuntu doesn't use it anymore? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch03s03.html <Hobbsee_away> robotgeek: xine, i think <robotgeek> Hobbsee_away: would you be able to give me a list of packages to install? like in the link? <Hobbsee_away> er...um...*thinks* * Hobbsee_away is actually away <robotgeek> Hobbsee_away: later is also okay :) <Tm_T> Hobbsee_away: cheater! * Tm_T will use gstreamer a lot <Tm_T> gst 0.10 in amaroK for example * robotgeek wants a installable list, really :) * robotgeek catches hold of Tm_T <robotgeek> Tm_T: tell me, lol <Tm_T> robotgeek: for what purpose? <Tm_T> w32codecs and humm, libxine? <robotgeek> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch03s03.html similiar for kde <Tm_T> oh well... * Tm_T can't look * Tm_T is deleting one folder * Tm_T notes that folder holds over 220 000 files in 34 000 folders * Tm_T also feels kinda WTF here <robotgeek> wow <Tm_T> somehow I feel "push the cancel before it really start removing" <Tm_T> yup <Tm_T> counts and counts and counts files <Tm_T> I think I use bash... feels more safe <Tm_T> oh no... <Tm_T> 2G freed and I didn't even really start :o <Tm_T> uff 5G sources'n'stuff removed <Hobbsee> robotgeek: i'm not sure which plugins you need <robotgeek> Hobbsee: hmm, okay. but the ones there won't work, right? <Hobbsee> i'm probably not the right person to ask - my system plays oggs, mp3's and wav files with just amarok and amarok-xine, which come as a part of kubuntu desktop <Hobbsee> from whta i hear, it shouldnt * robotgeek thinks he should try a reinstall <robotgeek> anyways , thanks Hobbsee <Hobbsee> no problems <Hobbsee> unless it checked that i was in AU, then automatically installed the codecs, which is possible <robotgeek> really? <Hobbsee> got no idea <robotgeek> heh <robotgeek> anyways, gotta go now <robotgeek> later <Hobbsee> but my system isnt normal, it seems <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick :) <Tonio_> hello <jpatrick> hey Tonio_ <Tonio_> jpatrick: fine ? <jpatrick> yes, you? <Hobbsee> hi Tonio_ <Tonio_> jpatrick: fine, internet is back at home :) <Tonio_> Hobbsee: hello ;) <jpatrick> at last <freeflying> http://static.flickr.com/36/104089906_aa454bd6fb_m.jpg <Hobbsee> oh eww freeflying! <freeflying> :) <freeflying> My amarok still can nor play mp3 file <jpatrick> mine can <Hobbsee> jpatrick: so i'm not alone! <freeflying> which engine ? <jpatrick> xine and gst <freeflying> poor me <freeflying> I cn not find package amarok-gst <jpatrick> it was removed <freeflying> then how can I use get ? <Lathiat> hrm why was it removed? <Lathiat> to get rid of gst0.8 in kubuntu? <jpatrick> new gst0.10 does not work with amaroK <freeflying> seems gst will not too <Lathiat> gst will if you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed <Lathiat> that said amarok-gstreamer seems non existant now even in universe <Lathiat> which is a bit odd <jpatrick> Lathiat: I told you it was removed <Lathiat> "even in universe ... which is a bit odd" <freeflying> I'e gstreamer0.8-mad installed , but I can not play mp3 file with amarok, although I have amarok-xine and w32codecs installed <Tonio_> freeflying: dapper , <Lathiat> of course <Tonio_> , <Tonio_> ? <Lathiat> gstreamer09.8-mad woudl only work with amarok-gstreamer <Tonio_> there is a new package to install <freeflying> Tonio_: dapper <Tonio_> libmad0 doesn't work <Tonio_> freeflying: install libxine-extracodecs <Lathiat> i thought xine picked up on libmad0 if it was installed <Lathiat> i guess noit <Tonio_> something like that <Tonio_> this package contains a libmad0 lib and a few others <Tonio_> works perfectly <Tonio_> but we will have lots of wikipages to update ;) <Lathiat> what package? <Lathiat> a custom xine package? <Lathiat> the problem is the default installed xine cant depend on mad for licensing reasons <Tonio_> Lathiat: libxine-extracodecs <Tonio_> contains libmad0, a few others and works perfectly <Tonio_> it is in universe <Tonio_> multiverse, sorry <freeflying> I wonder why can't I use gst play mp3 file with amarok ? <Lathiat> ahh, cool. <Lathiat> freeflying: becaus eyou are using the xine amarok backend! <Tonio_> Lathiat: xine is the default for dapper <freeflying> Lathiat: actually , I can not select the engine of amarok to gst <Tm_T> yup <Lathiat> Tonio_: yes, i know * Tm_T uses gst 0.10 in amaroK atm <Tonio_> gstreamer has been removed because it doesn't work very nicely for the moment <Tonio_> well, all we have to know is to install libxine-extracodecs <Tonio_> the problem is not any wikipage has that, so we will have lots of question when dapper is out <Lathiat> right <Tonio_> we have to update the docs before <Lathiat> please feel free to fix that :) <freeflying> Tonio_: it means that we can not use gst under dapper ? <Lathiat> freeflying: bit wutg anarij <Tonio_> freeflying: you can of course, but it is not by default <Lathiat> bit wutg anarij <Lathiat> bah <Tm_T> Tonio_: you mean gst 0.8 doesn't work in some cases... <Lathiat> stupid keyboar <Tm_T> Tonio_: here it just works ;( <Tm_T> gst 0.10 is nice too <Tonio_> Tm_T: I'm saying there are lots of files that just don't work with gstreamer;;;;;;;;;; <freeflying> Tm_T: how can you guys make it work ? <Tonio_> although there is no pb with sound files most of the time <Tm_T> freeflying: I compile my amaroK from svn <Tonio_> there is another problem with amarok <Tonio_> impossibloe to have it localized <Tonio_> only english <Tm_T> ? <Tonio_> can someone confirm this , <Tonio_> ? * Tm_T use amaroK in cymraeg <Lathiat> whats yoru $LANG? <Tonio_> Lathiat: FR <Tonio_> fr_FR.UTF-8 <Tonio_> that's it <freeflying> Tonio_: 1.3.8? <Tonio_> freeflying: yes <freeflying> Tonio_: confirm <Tonio_> freeflying: okay, we have to post a launchpad bug on this <Tonio_> freeflying: confirm for FR or all localizations , <Tonio_> , <Tonio_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh? <Tonio_> shift doesn't work on my keyboard............ <Lathiat> Tonio_: sorry I can't read small letters can you type it in caps for me? ;p <Tonio_> Lathiat: OK <Tonio_> SOUNDS COMPLICATED :) <Lathiat> what do you mean it doesnt work :) <freeflying> Tonio_: I use zh_CN <Tonio_> freeflying: OK <freeflying> Tonio_: you or I <Tonio_> Lathiat: I JUST MEAN THAT AMAROK STAYS IN ENGLISH AND THAT'S IT <freeflying> how to play mp3 on kubuntu-ppc with amarok ? <Lathiat> freeflying: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed? <freeflying> Lathiat: seems no libxine-extracodecs for ppc <Tonio_> freeflying: that's a problem indeed.........; <freeflying> then I'd use realplayer for mp3 <Lathiat> freeflying: then file a bug <freeflying> Lathiat: amarok-1.4 is not in dapper now <freeflying> Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/32928 <jpatrick> hmm... <jpatrick> maybe it's not been translated? <Lathiat> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/zh <Lathiat> indeed <Lathiat> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/zh_CN looks a little better but still very small <Lathiat> freeflying: start translating? :) <jpatrick> Lathiat: 'roK's not on that list so it will be difficult <Lathiat> yeh hwo do you fix that? <jpatrick> can't until it's been pulled in <jpatrick> and I think that's after dapper's released <nlindblad> anyone using mutt and gmail? <freeflying> nlindblad: I've used <nlindblad> set sendmail="/usr/bin/nbsmtp -d smtp.gmail.com -h smtp.gmail.com -f acolon@example.com -p 465 -U niklas.lindblad -P mypassword -M p -S" <nlindblad> I'm using that in my .muttrc, I'm trying to send mails using the gmail smtp server <nlindblad> but I think the auth is messed or something, it just says "sending message..." then doing nothing <nlindblad> any clues freeflying? <jpatrick> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-February/005858.html <- I had no idea <nlindblad> pornview_0.2pre1-5build1.dsc? <freeflying> nlindblad: nothing can tell, hehe <nlindblad> :( <jpatrick> wow, it's raining <nlindblad> aynone with GPG I can try my setup with? <jpatrick> what? <jpatrick> use KGPG <nlindblad> I need to try it out <nlindblad> could someone add me to their keychain (0xDE0BA1F1) and mail acolon@example.com <jpatrick> did you upload to keyserver? <nlindblad> yeah <nlindblad> got it working when recieving a mail encrypted to match my key <nlindblad> not sure how to send an encrypted though <nlindblad> jpatrick: mind if I try sending an encrypted mail to you? <jpatrick> nlindblad: you have to encrypt with my key <nlindblad> I know <nlindblad> I'll import you to my chain <jpatrick> 9500B1A2 <nlindblad> what keyserver? <jpatrick> keyserver.ubuntu.com <nlindblad> can I add mine to that server aswell? <jpatrick> yes <nlindblad> sent it <nlindblad> encrypted here atleast <jpatrick> Encrypted message (decryption not possible) <jpatrick> Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data. <jpatrick> Error: Bad passphrase <jpatrick> right... <nlindblad> jpatrick: weird <tenco> was kaffeine-gstreamer dropped in favour of kaffeine-xine? <jpatrick> think so <jpatrick> becsause of gst0.10 <tenco> so its only part of the transition to gst0.10? <jpatrick> i don't think kaffeine supports it <nlindblad> yakuake is wonderful <tenco> jpatrick: so dapper will use the xine backend? <jpatrick> yes <tenco> good. :-) <jpatrick> nlindblad: I think there's something wrong with your key <nlindblad> jpatrick: I can receive encrypted mails <tenco> bye <jpatrick> nlindblad: i can't get kmail to accept it <nlindblad> weird <jpatrick> now it does <nlindblad> can you read it? <jpatrick> i've sent a message <nlindblad> okey <nlindblad> works * jpatrick builds deb for kerry <jpatrick> hey robotgeek_away <robotgeek> hey jpatrick, damn nick wasn't quitting :) <robotgeek> i put dapper on a external usb yesterday, was fun! <nlindblad> this sucks <kmon> Hi <jpatrick> nlindblad: what? <nlindblad> a malfunctioning program created a billion files in ~ <jpatrick> woah <robotgeek> lol <nlindblad> got it now <nlindblad> but it was a little scary <kmon> The system:/ slave give's more headaches than benefits. I can't compress a folder from konqueror if the url is using the system:/ slave. Is this a known bug? <jpatrick> yes <kmon> ok <kmon> thanxs for the info <jpatrick> file more bugs (if you can on my pkgs) * jpatrick feels like fixing things <kmon> Nearly every bug I've filed has already been fixed :) <kmon> at least the ones related to kde <kmon> Does the knetwork-manager front end riddell did on the last distro sprint work with current dapper nm package? <jpatrick> dunno <kmon> I gess the number 1 priority is finishing off the kde live installer so we can have kubuntu in ship-it <kmon> does kate has tabs? <jpatrick> sort of * kmon going to reboot <LeeJunFan> Looks like display properties can't change resolution in kde any more eh? <jpatrick> LeeJunFan: what? <LeeJunFan> when you right click on desktop there was a place to change display resolutions, it's not there any more, neither is dpms settings. <LeeJunFan> in configure desktop <jpatrick> :| <Tonio_> re <Tonio_> need to find a way to make gtk_qt_engine configured out of the box <jpatrick> anyone know where gnome stores it's icons? <ubijtsa>
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