#ubuntu-ops 2007-02-01 <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: for 2? <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: yes :) Hobbsee will take it depending on what it involves <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Ah, I see. "backup vote" <gnomefreak> so ther eis always the other person incase Hobbse_e doesnt want it <tonyyarusso> c'mon Crass....say something. I need to know whether I'm leaving you alone or banning you so I can go make myself some dinner.. <LjL> tonyyarusso, it's too late already, he left minutes ago <tonyyarusso> oh, whoop <tonyyarusso> next time I gotta /hilight -all so I catch those <gnomefreak> who is crass? <LjL> that's how i know he left ;) <LjL> gnomefreak: a troll <gnomefreak> in here? <LjL> no in #ubuntu, previously <gnomefreak> ah ok <tonyyarusso> LjL: Thought maybe he just changed nick - there's a very similar one (just remove the numbers) <LjL> oh, that's right, his ISP (or whatever it is) is not online anymore tho <LjL> uh. well, do a /whois, he doesn't look nice either =) <tonyyarusso> heh * tonyyarusso makes soup * Hobbsee makes tonyyarusso into soup <LjL> tonyyarusso: oh, and crass178 had already joined with other different crass### nicks, though always from generic.rio.com from what i can see <gnomefreak> nice channel #remote-exploit :( <LjL> yeah... <LjL> though that guy's probably not the same person, i can see there was a "crass" online (cannot be sure it was him, but) the day Edgy came out <gnomefreak> there done <linux_kid> Could we negotiate allowing my IP back in #ubuntu-offtopic <Hobbsee> any staffers here? <nalioth> linux_kid: we can consider quieting you here until seveas returns or 24 hours have passed. <Hobbsee> nalioth: in #ubuntu-meeting please <Hobbsee> ban the idiot <Jucato> nalioth: help? * Hobbsee wants ops there too <linux_kid> OK, I'll shut up. But Im going to start my own channel <LjL> ask some of the offtopic people, i'm sure they can help you with that *cough* <nalioth> linux_kid: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml <linux_kid> ok, thanks for the tips, wish me good luck! * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <linux_kid> You are all free to join my channel, #outbac <maxamillion> !advertisement <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advertisement - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi <maxamillion> bah ... <maxamillion> nvm <linux_kid> maxamillion: Im not advertising... Ive been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic and wanted to have my own Off-Topic channel <nalioth> linux_kid: please wait on seveas. this is not a social channel <linux_kid> nalioth: sure, sorry about the social * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ <ubotu> In #kubuntu, DrunkPikachu said: ubotu: pastebin is no fun, what if I WANT to flood the channel with my poorly written shell scripts? <tonyyarusso> :S <LjL> (what if i WANT to ban you out of sheer randomness? :P) <LjL> Minataku, complaining about recent ban from #kubuntu, pointed to here <LjL> Jucato: and don't say he wasn't looking for it >: <Jucato> here it comes <Minataku> I would like to file a complaint that the language restriction is far too strict. <thoreauputic> Minataku: what in particular? <Minataku> "Damn" <thoreauputic> Minataku: who complained about that? <Minataku> LjL banned me for it from #kubuntu <thoreauputic> ah <LjL> Minataku: you weren't banned for you language (though "damn" isn't exactly a nice word), you were banned because, after pointed to the CoC, guidelines and all the rest, you kept the same aggressive attitude, showing you hadn't even started reading them, or could not care less <thoreauputic> Minataku: have you spoken to LjL ? <thoreauputic> ooops <thoreauputic> scratch that :) <Minataku> I'm sorry, I have issues related to being completely ignored, which you did <Minataku> I will, however, apologize for my behavior, as it was out of line <LjL> i don't *have* to click on people's links. to be honesty, i couldn't care less about the link, and cannot be bothered opening a web browser right now. what i'm concerned with is 1) your language 2) the caps 3) the fact that you *knew* it was offtopic, since you had *just* posted the same thing on #kubuntu-offtopic, 4) your complete not understanding of 1, 2 and 3 <Minataku> LjL: Long-ingrained behavioral traits don't immediately change just because of the rules of a particular locale <Minataku> Also, I posted that in a number of channels, as I usually do for absurd or interesting links <LjL> fair enough - now you have at least about a day to see if you can change those traits before rejoining the channel <Minataku> I plan to merely rejoin after this 24h and cease conversing instead, or at least that's my plan at the monent <Minataku> I would think you could accept that someone who does actively help can make mistakes and be a little nicer, but then I've seen this sort of thing before <LjL> you have made a mistake, i've kicked you as a warning, you clearly showed you didn't care about the warning... blame yourself. /me is away now <Minataku> Experienced it, no less, at a former job, where I was fired merely because I wasn't liked by the staff <Minataku> And you run away? Hardly honorable behavior <Minataku> But then I'm used to that as well, it's far more prevalent <thoreauputic> Minataku: when you are in a hole, digging is not a good plan :) <Minataku> thoreauputic: He already doesn't like me, so I'm stuck in a hole with a shovel. Gotta keep myself occupied somehow * Jucato throws some toys into Minataku's hole... rubix cbues <Jucato> cubes* <nalioth> Minataku: your plan sounds fine, we'll see you tomorrow :) <Minataku> You know I hate those! <Minataku> Or do you? I don't remember where I said that <Minataku> LjL: Either way, I'm sorry, I have anger issues, which is why it seemed like I didn't care, because at that moment I was angry and I didn't <Minataku> But I'm sorry for that and I guess I'll return tomorrow and I hope we can get back on better terms <LjL> sure <Minataku> No complaint against LjL, BTW <Minataku> I guess I can't complain about him doing his job, after all * Minataku shakes LjL's hand <Jucato> yeah, Minataku just has complaints about me :) <Minataku> Nah, lol <LjL> heh <Minataku> I'm an ass, I know, I have personality issues, and personality is hard to change... control isn't the easiest either ;3 <Jucato> oh control is easy! press Alt+F2, and type in kcontrol <Jucato> :P <Minataku> lol <Minataku> Doesn't work in Fluxbox ;3 <Jucato> bah <LjL> or Alt+F4. i do that sometimes, or at least should, when i feel i'm about to lose my control on IRC <Minataku> Or even if I launched an xterm, it still wouldn't work :D <Jucato> LjL: you? lose control? that'll be the end of the world <Minataku> LjL: Internet or real life, human interactions elicit human emotions <LjL> Jucato: possibly... i guess i don't do it often, but when i do, i do :) * Jucato ph34rs LjL <maxamillion> Minataku: if what you just said is true, why do you lack control online? <Minataku> It's not "just the internet", the only real difference is that you can't respond by physically assaulting the other person <Minataku> maxamillion: That's just why <Minataku> I tend to lack said control IRL as well <maxamillion> hmmmm.... <Minataku> Especially when I get angry, it's like a feedback loop <Minataku> Once I lose it it gets worse until I stop completely <Minataku> LjL: As for the story, would you like the gist of it? It's pretty asinine <LjL> the story on the link? i read it, actually ;) <Minataku> Ah, lol <Minataku> But yeah, again, sorry about that, I'll try and tighten myself in in #kubuntu from now on <nalioth> thoreauputic: please banhammer those idiots from .fr, don't just remove them. they are hitting all over <LjL> he banned, but by nickname only <Minataku> Frenchies causing trouble? <thoreauputic> nalioth: yeah <thoreauputic> LjL: no, I just kicked as far as I know <LjL> nalioth: more than that one IP address? <nalioth> LjL: yes <LjL> oh, then i read something that wasn't there i guess <nalioth> i think i've banned all that i've seen active on the network so far <LjL> they're saying un-nice thing about the jews, for the record, so it's not quite just a flood <thoreauputic> LjL: I know, I know some French :) <thoreauputic> LjL: I should have kickbanned <Minataku> Oh <Minataku> Are they saying crap like "Jews did WTC"? <Minataku> That's the GNAA <nalioth> klined <Minataku> As for the clients they're either members or zombies <thoreauputic> nalioth: good <Minataku> I wonder if the GNAA believes that or if they just say it to piss people off... Probably the latter, knowing the GNAA * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * willys_fueguino se despide de todos por hoy y ya saben... encuentrenme en #ubuntu-lat <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: you are still opped in #ubuntu - is that intentional ? <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: no, thanks <thoreauputic> OK :) <Hobbsee> :) <Minataku> It should be... I hate that stupid Freenode policy <Hobbsee> it's useful not to be * Jucato calms Minataku down... anger management. :) <thoreauputic> Minataku: it isn't a policy - just a recommnedation <thoreauputic> bah typos... <Minataku> It's not useful at all, actually, since it adds a time issue <Minataku> Not to mention you're totally screwed in the event services is out of service (pun not intended) <Hobbsee> otherwise you get people asking "can you make me an op, why dont you do something about y" or thinking that they can PM and get an answer, just cos i'm an op * Hobbsee has had all of that <thoreauputic> Minataku: it keeps the channel temperature down <Hobbsee> Minataku: yeah, but if chanserv dies, we are anyway :P <Hobbsee> seeing as banning involves chanserv, like op'ing does <Minataku> I think it's dishonorable, but then I've been drawn into fights then banned before <Minataku> Hobbsee: No it doesn't <Minataku> /mode +b *!*@* <Minataku> As an example <thoreauputic> Minataku: dishnourable is a strong word :) <Hobbsee> what do you think controls the modes? <Minataku> Hobbsee: Channel operators, unless the IRCd is configured so ass-backwards such that only U-lined servers are allowed <Minataku> Which it isn't <Minataku> Trust me, if you're a channel operator you can set and clear modes <Minataku> I just tested it to make sure, too XD <thoreauputic> Minataku: do you have any urgent business in #ubuntu-ops or are you just lurking? <Minataku> Yeah, I lost a contact lens... watch where you step <Minataku> Sorry (I don't wear contacts) * Kamping_Kaiser slaps Minataku <Minataku> Heehee <Kamping_Kaiser> :@ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <Minataku> I'm currently a channel operator in several channels and I'm also a former IRC Operator, until that network was DDoSed then later died off * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tritium] by ChanServ <effie_jayx> jenda, ping <tritium> Hello? <tonyyarusso> boo <tritium> hi tonyyarusso * tonyyarusso waves <tritium> Thought I had lost my voice, but evidently not ;) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tritium] by ChanServ * thoreauputic hands tritium a throat lozenge <thoreauputic> ;) <tritium> Thanks, thoreauputic :) <thoreauputic> tritium: actually I recommend rum and hot lemon ;p <tritium> Now that sounds good! <Mez> It is ;) <tritium> Hi Mez! <Mez> hi <Mez> hmm <Mez> frozen vodka :D <mneptok> munh. <Mez> ? * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v fdoving] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v fdoving] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Mez] by ChanServ <mneptok> http://haha.nu/funny/hidden-camera/ <tonyyarusso> lol * tonyyarusso posted a good link - y'all should look ;) <willys_fueguino> ping! <DBO> pong? * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgundavia] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> DBO: could you "review" holycow behaviour on #ubuntu please?? <willys_fueguino> ups... <willys_fueguino> already did... <DBO> yes I have <DBO> its a matter between myself and him right now <willys_fueguino> ok... <willys_fueguino> then it's in good hands <willys_fueguino> :-D * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> :-S <willys_fueguino> DBO: what's the point on having voice over here?? <Jucato> to show who are ops, afaik <DBO> yes <willys_fueguino> oh... <nalioth> willys_fueguino: it shows you to be a source of help * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> The (open)source is with me ;-) <willys_fueguino> really have to go <willys_fueguino> see you later <Jucato> nalioth: when asking Seveas for a cloak, we PM him, right? <nalioth> Jucato: i've seen folks ask in channel <nalioth> what kind of cloak do you want? <Jucato> nalioth: oh ok. ubuntu member cloak :) <nalioth> oh. <Jucato> :D <nalioth> thought you might have wanted /here/comes/trouble/named/Jucato or something <Jucato> lol <Jucato> I wouldn't waste my breath on something like that :D * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ <GazzaK> morning Seveas <Seveas> morning <Jucato> moin Seveas <GazzaK> that guy, who called himself billgates, was asking last night if he could be unbanned :p <nalioth> Jucato: there seveas is <nalioth> GazzaK: all things in good time :) <GazzaK> was kinda funny <nalioth> was kinda pathetic <GazzaK> hows the training going? <GazzaK> how is your head? * Jucato is scared to approach the throne of Seveas... :) <GazzaK> nalioth, true, pathetically funny <Seveas> GazzaK, heh :) <Seveas> training is not bad <GazzaK> is it hard work though, learning lots? * GazzaK likes IT training :-) <Seveas> Jucato, 'sup? <nalioth> Seveas: jucato wants in your closet <Seveas> Jucato, and please throw away the notion of throne - nooen is more important than others <Jucato> Seveas: I'm not sure about the process of asking for an ubuntu member cloak <Seveas> nalioth, that's already filled with my fiancees clothes <Jucato> Seveas: heh ok. /me throws the throne away :) <nalioth> Seveas: no, he wants one of the many cloaks you have to give out <Seveas> Jucato, the process is: give me your launchpad id <Seveas> and wait for me to slap nalioth <GazzaK> lol <GazzaK> can we all? <Jucato> jucato https://launchpad.net/~jucato <Seveas> nalioth, could you check whether linuxba is cloaked? <nalioth> Seveas: cloaked. <Seveas> ok <Seveas> cloak jucato as well please :) <Jucato> yay :) <nalioth> jucato@here/comes/trouble/with/the/nick/of/Jucato <Jucato> roflmao * GazzaK wants a humourous cloak :-) <apokryphos> Jucato: congrats =) <Jucato> apokryphos: thanks :) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth_] by ChanServ <GazzaK> yay, Amaranth you got your membership back <Amaranth> :) <GazzaK> cool <GazzaK> damnit, I need op powa in -offtopic, so I can stick up for myself!!!! :p <GazzaK> I feel victimised :-) <apokryphos> Amaranth: good to have you back =0 <apokryphos> * =) <Amaranth> :) <GazzaK> it is good \o/ <Seveas> GazzaK, it's actually going in the operatoir guidelines that kicking you is always allowed <GazzaK> is it? wow, but surely I must be given adequate means to defend myself? <GazzaK> otherwise it is horrid cruel victimization :-) <Amaranth> GazzaK: but you ask for it <GazzaK> do I now? when <Amaranth> When you join the channel. Didn't you read the EULA? ;) <GazzaK> never have I "asked" for it, at least not so clear it'd stand up in court :p <GazzaK> it's not like I join and say "oi, hello, beat me up you lovely ops" * GazzaK opens himself up for abuse by saying that here!!! <GazzaK> I treat it however as a form of endearment, you must love me so :-) * GazzaK hides * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o DBO] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o DBO] by ChanServ <Seveas> actually, maybe it would be good to have GazzaK as op in -offtopic <DBO> Seveas was one of those weird kids that when he was bullied, would then present his attackers with weapons * Seeker` never thought he would hear anyone describe Gazzak being an op as "good" <GazzaK> cheers Seeker` <DBO> he is there a lot Seveas <GazzaK> thats due to lack of life <GazzaK> outside is scary <Seveas> DBO, and he behaves better than some of the ops <GazzaK> lol * Seveas whistles innocently <GazzaK> pot kettle, *cough* <DBO> Seveas, yeah but thats only because you're a prick <GazzaK> and it might be the only way i'll ever get uby membership, as I'm as technical as a lump of cheese <DBO> GazzaK, lumps of cheeze when used properly can be quite useful in scientific endeavours <DBO> they make good bait <Seeker`> GazzaK: You can help with ubuntu-scribes <GazzaK> Seeker`, whats that then? <Seeker`> did you not listen at the end of yesterdays meeting? <GazzaK> erm, I was busy doing stuff, I did say I was <Seeker`> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam <DBO> brushing and typing dont mix <TheSheep> that's why they invented the usb toothbrush <GazzaK> that would be more useless than the USB coffee cup warmer <nalioth> GazzaK: so is this true? you are volunteering to be a 'test dummy' for the new ops to test their skill upon? <GazzaK> erm <GazzaK> they test their "skill" on me anyways <GazzaK> is it skill? or is it megomania * nalioth goes to bed <Jucato> g'night nalioth <GazzaK> but yeah, if it helps, i'll volunteer for anything <GazzaK> night nalioth * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v SportChick] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_duerme] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ <ubotu> In ubotu, cj_ said: what is bot <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, nothlit said: !spletnit is <alias> netsplit <PriceChild> Bah... got a pm spammer <GazzaK> PriceChild, eeek <Seeker`> tell him that for every message he sends, he will be banned for a day, or something <mneptok> or hit on him. <PriceChild> Seeker`, staff are on top I've discovered :) * PriceChild moves on * jenda votes for GazzaK the op in -offtopic <jenda> :) <GazzaK> awww, thanks jenda * mneptok votes #u-offtopic be renamed #u-icefloe and we just push it out to sea. <jenda> hehe :) <jenda> mneptok: I presume, GazzaK included? <GazzaK> I'm out to sea anyways <jenda> Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GazzaK :) <mneptok> jenda: me keep GazzaK in the igloo village to de-blubber the whale carcasses. <jenda> Reminds me of a funny thingy :) I never told my ex-gf my birthday, because I usually don't, because I don't celebrate it. She googled it. <GazzaK> jenda, that's tomorrow <jenda> mneptok: :) <jenda> mneptok: could I use you instead of /dev/urandom next time I create a random partition? <jenda> err, encrypted partition <mneptok> DHXBCPY956HBI978EU9HTYB09764HBER9G89KXEUTNMBI97845G6FHNEUBIKCROEU7GFY5G6754TBFDIE <mneptok> (i.e. "OK") <jenda> ...DIE? <GazzaK> spam!!! <mneptok> DDoS! <jenda> Something about the tone of your ...HBER... and ...NEUBIK... didn't seem entirely friendly. <mneptok> i thought the #ubuntu channels were NEUBIK friendly <GazzaK> no, they are XEUTN friendly <elkbuntu> rofl <mneptok> that totally IIEUHTUCs <elkbuntu> indeed, very IKCROEU! <GazzaK> madness I tells ye <mneptok> GazzaK: STFU before i put my IINDXKJPOEN deep inside your DIHIUIGDNTNSCGIJ <mneptok> oh great. now i'm aroused. <mneptok> *le sigh* <PriceChild> whoa is it GazzaK's birthday? :) <Seeker`> PriceChild: tomorrow * Seeker` considers having a 'proper' birthday and an 'official' birthday <Seeker`> like what the queen does * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <PriceChild> lol :) <mneptok> did you just call GazzaK a queen? <Seeker`> no <Seeker`> GazzaK: you are a queen <mneptok> cool. so i can. <Seeker`> now i did <Seeker`> :P <elkbuntu> i thought he was a queer ;) <elkbuntu> * GazzaK (n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK) has left #ubuntu-ops ("Connection reset by queer") <GazzaK> hehe <GazzaK> elkbuntu, how much log chasing did you do to get that? <elkbuntu> GazzaK, ctrl f <elkbuntu> it's still in my scrollback <GazzaK> ahhh <GazzaK> PriceChild, it's me birthday tomorra <PriceChild> wooo :) <elkbuntu> plus, "cat ~/.xchat/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-#ubuntu-ops | grep queer" would have been sufficient <GazzaK> i'm old :p <jenda> long scrollback, elkbuntu :) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ * GazzaK tickles Hobbsee <elkbuntu> jenda, 5k * jenda thwacks Hobbsee with herself <jenda> elkbuntu: that would definitely hog my machine down. <elkbuntu> jenda, heh, my machine goes fine until i have 3xfirefox@15xtabs <jenda> hehe :) <elkbuntu> then firefox decides to take like half a gig in mem+swap <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee <Hobbsee> hey GazzaK, jenda <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser <jenda> I don't get that bad on FF - I usually close them as I go, because I know I'd never get back to them. <Kamping_Kaiser> :) <jenda> elkbuntu: otoh, I voluntarily decided to hog down my other machine with protein folding ;) <elkbuntu> jenda, lol <jenda> dayum, the mod queue on ubuntu-marketing is approaching 100 <jenda> hm, all spam. <elkbuntu> jenda, i still have a f@h account with 1337. i had to reinstall at that point and decided to start a new account rather than spoil the coolness <jenda> hehe :) <jenda> I'm at 8% of my first protein. <jenda> and making a good deal of noise. <jenda> :) <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: kde doesnt have a /var/crash folder? maybe apport makes that folder and kde doesnt use apport? <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no idea, i dont use apport <Hobbsee> kcrash is the kde thing -but doesnt automatically file bugs, etc <gnomefreak> but it hold crash reports <PriceChild> jenda, 38% ;) <jenda> * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ * elkbuntu has strong urges to do this in offtopic: seen the effect of the new vista virus? http://meldra.no-ip.info/image001.jpg * gnomefreak looks <gnomefreak> lol <PriceChild> :) <Hobbsee> haha <elkbuntu> bwahahaha "Please get yourself off of planet ubuntu. You arent a geek, generally clueless, this blogsucks." <PriceChild> where's that? <elkbuntu> my blog.. in response to my latest post <PriceChild> :( * TheSheep hands elkbuntu a "geekier than thou" badge <PriceChild> Wow i've already had a pingback.... <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, nice... managed to stir up more people then when i looked last ;) <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah, i only posted it cos i was bored <PriceChild> *hugs elkbuntu* <PriceChild> I thought it was quite good... <elkbuntu> PriceChild, if it wasnt, it wouldnt be getting people cut ;) <PriceChild> hehe ;) <elkbuntu> satire should, like a polished razor keen, wound with a touch, that is neither felt nor seen <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, it made some people think, right or not <PriceChild> Yeah and that's the whole point <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, yep. there's a number of thought trains in there too, tbh. geek stereotype, hypocrisy, others i cant even identify <Kamping_Kaiser> :) <elkbuntu> like seriously, some people take more care of their harddrives than they do of their bodies. it's stupid * Kamping_Kaiser pouts <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, you werent the one stinking of trash can in matthews a on the last day of LCA <TheSheep> who cares about meat world? ;) <Kamping_Kaiser> no, true enough * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. only a tonyyserver <thunderstruck> that didnt help :( * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PuMpErNiCkLe] by ChanServ <FairLite> Seveas, nalioth: ping <FairLite> gnomefreak, apokryphos <apokryphos> hi <apokryphos> FairLite: what's the problem? <apokryphos> ? <FairLite> seriously <apokryphos> FairLite: what's the problem? <FairLite> apokryphos: it's ljl, join ##ljl2 <gnomefreak> ? <apokryphos> why? <Seveas> FairLite, ? * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ <Seveas> --- Cannot join ##ljl2 (Channel is invite only). <gnomefreak> Seveas: oh big issues <Seveas> then invit me please <gnomefreak> LjL: invite seveas please <LjL> apokryphos, gnomefreak, Seveas: ok sorry guys, you see that i just went totally out of my head after seeing that stuff in the place of my stupid CUPS webadmin. remind me to never accept jobs as a sysadmin. thanks for caring, anyway <Seveas> LjL, it's all right - I'm glad you weren't hacked <LjL> oh, i can assure you i'm just as glad =) i'll be even more glad to remove OpenDNS from my DNS list now. my dad thought i had become crazy, i believe, i started pulling network cables from the entire house <LjL> so much for software that tries to be smart. if i mistype hostnames, i'll just take the error and correct manually <LjL> since when does freenode log anyway? weren't there channels that didn't *want* to be logged at all, like #wikipedia? <LjL> jenda: may i bother you for a cloak? <nalioth> LjL: identify yourself to services please <LjL> oh, i'm not - sure sorry, forgot i'd changed my password... * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ <nalioth> LjL: what kind of cloak? <LjL> unaffiliated <nalioth> for you? <LjL> yes nalioth, i just found i'm not comfortable with my IP address showing up anymore * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ <LjL> i should be set for what i can tell <nalioth> LjL: hide your email <LjL> it isn't hidden? thought i'd hidden it * mneptok blinks slowly * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ <Seeker`> who can have cloaks? <LjL> Seeker`: anyone <LjL> Seeker`: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks <Seeker`> can someone in here do unaffiliated ones? <gnomefreak> is there a way to tell if your gpg key is RSA or not? <LjL> Seeker`, right now i think you're better off using /stats p <LjL> gnomefreak: using KGPG, i am told that i have a DSA key with an additional ElGamal key for encryption <LjL> i'm not sure how the same information is obtained from gpg <LjL> i suppose that "gpg --list-keys" gives it, if you know how to read it <gnomefreak> ok ty <gnomefreak> it doesnt <LjL> gnomefreak: well, for me it lists "pub 1024D/63062075" and "sub 2048g/1C2187D5" - given what KGPG says, i'd interpret that as "public key, DSA 1024bit" and "subkey, ElGamal 2048bit" respectively <LjL> so if you get something like 1024R (just guessing), i suppose it'd be RSA <gnomefreak> ah ok <LjL> or just install KGPG if you have KDE ;) <LjL> (doubt it somehow) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ <LjL> gaah i can never remember which one of the "a"s is doubled in Kaarsemaker :P * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ <LjL> gee chanserv's slow <LjL> watch for 83.230.*.* addresses (iperbanda.es) <tonyyarusso> hilighting <tonyyarusso> Oh funny. This guy doesn't know what he's in for! -someone on the Canada ML asking "also, can you send me, offlist if need be, all your ubuntu links?" * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ <Tm_T> LjL: Roger, staff already knows it gladly. :) <Tm_T> Or so I hope. <LjL> Tm_T: that guy in #kubuntu wasn't an 83.230 though. i banned him from everywhere though, since he later spammed in #ubuntu too <Tm_T> LjL: Hmm, what, did I look something wrong?! <LjL> Tm_T: 6585208393 was the guy who you were going to kick but he left <Tm_T> Yu. <LjL> anyway, staffers should surely like to know about him too :) <Tm_T> Same ip in #kde, there's others too? <Tm_T> LjL: I did copypaste logs. <LjL> Tm_T: not that i know of. the ones i was talking about (the 83.230 ones) are people who start randomly talking in spanish in #ubuntu (which happens quite often, for some reason) <LjL> Tm_T: then check out the bantracker, there are similar logs for #ubuntu as well <Tm_T> LjL: Aah, then not as bad. <Tm_T> I can't log in =) <Tm_T> But will do when I'm able (missing gpg or so) <LjL> shouldn't have to, it is publicly accessible now <apokryphos> LjL: good to hear it was nothing serious :) <Tm_T> Ah, I wonder what I was fiddling back then. <LjL> apokryphos: no it was quite ridiculous indeed, but i *did* get scared =) /whois me to see the result ;) <LjL> Tm_T, you still need to register and log in to add comments, just not to browse it <apokryphos> heh =) <Tm_T> Ah, ok, good to hear. <apokryphos> good to hear you joined us :P <LjL> well, i already miss my hostmask a little, but :P <Tm_T> I'm off now, hungry after 2-day expo, I was there in FLUG (Finnish LUG) booth (?) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Tm_T] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> hello everyone.. good evening? <PriceChild> wooo new op? <PriceChild> hey Tm_T <apokryphos> Tm_T's been a kubuntu op for some time, but I didn't know about.. willys_fueguino? <PriceChild> ahhh ok :) <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, is LoCo <nixternal> boo <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: yea I am * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> :-S <willys_fueguino> is it really important to have voice over here?? <tonyyarusso> not particularly <nalioth> willys_fueguino: are you an op in an #ubuntu-* channel? <willys_fueguino> on 2 or 3.... <nalioth> willys_fueguino: then you are noted as an op in an #ubuntu-* channel by the "voice" symbol <willys_fueguino> :-O <willys_fueguino> mm.. thanx nalioth <ubotu> In ubotu, ferret_0567__ said: !google is awesome! <tonyyarusso> haha <willys_fueguino> I have a *REALLY* important question for the ubuntu-ops <willys_fueguino> tough I think it's for freenode staffers but here I go: <willys_fueguino> What should be done, if a user is "atacking" another one (not trough irc), and their argument started and coninues on IRC ??? <willys_fueguino> *continues <tonyyarusso> Most likely they'd have to leave IRC, since that would be offtopic for Freenode. Offline isn't really our issue. * tonyyarusso guesses <willys_fueguino> aha... <willys_fueguino> I had to deal with that as an op <willys_fueguino> the "atacker" argument was "How can you probe that I did it?" <gnomefreak> in a channel? <nalioth> willys_fueguino: what happens in a channel is the channel owners responsibility <willys_fueguino> oh really?? <willys_fueguino> well,,, that problem it's in the past now.... <willys_fueguino> but I wanted to know your opinion.. <willys_fueguino> gnomefreak: yup <tonyyarusso> Someone talked to holycow yesterday about language didn't they? <willys_fueguino> yes... <willys_fueguino> DBO did it I think... <tonyyarusso> argh then <Tm_T> apokryphos: Been op some time, can't remember if its about a year already. <nalioth> Tm_T: this is what you get for playing "hard to get" <Tm_T> ? <Tm_T> What did I do this time? <Tm_T> If it's broken, it wasn't me! * apokryphos nods <nalioth> Tm_T: you've been absent from this channel up until a few days ago <nalioth> Tm_T: nobody knows who you are * gnomefreak knows him sort of * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> nalioth: ping? * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ <nalioth> willys_fueguino: pong <willys_fueguino> nalioth: If a user doesn't connecs for over a year, I could take his nick? <nalioth> willys_fueguino: 60 days w/o use and you can request it, yes. <willys_fueguino> nalioth: then I want to request the nick smeagol * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ <nalioth> willys_fueguino: please /nick smeagol my preciousssssssss <PriceChild> hehe :) <willys_fueguino> jajajajjaja <LjL> nice, at least now i know how it's spelled <smeagol> :-O <mc44> actaully its Smagol, but hey ho :p <LjL> nicks are ASCII only :P <smeagol> mc44: lets go <Tm_T> nalioth: Ah, I didn't know about this channel =) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ <Seveas> Tm_T, where are you op? <willys_fueguino> Question: Is it good to add 1 freenode staffer and 1 ubuntu-op on access "just in case"?? <Tm_T> Seveas: #kubuntu <Seveas> willys_fueguino, add freenode/staff/* to the access list for the 'just in case' :) <SportChick> hehe, you beat me to it, Seveas :) <Tm_T> (and ofcourse -fi too but that's quite "whocares") <Seveas> Tm_T, can you please join the ubuntu-irc team on launchpad then :) <willys_fueguino> allright then... <Tm_T> Seveas: Yes, sir! <nalioth> willys_fueguino: adding freenode staff to the access list is a good idea in any channel <Tm_T> Ouch, forgot launchpad passwd again. * nalioth sends Tm_T to the tattoo parlor <Tm_T> February 06 and september same year, harhar. <Tm_T> Actually those are mostly only cases I login to launchpad. =) <Tm_T> s/are/were/ <Tm_T> Ha, got it. =) <PriceChild> lol nalioth <willys_fueguino> I'll be away so I'll leave temporarily <ubotu> In #ubuntu-gr, ktogias said: !ufuntu is eleni <Seveas> apokryphos, your loco --^ <Seveas> :p <apokryphos> some of them are only discovering it now <apokryphos> despite me using it about 100 times already 8) <PriceChild> :) <Tm_T> New spamwave incoming I afraid * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> @karma <willys_fueguino> !karma <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Harhar. <willys_fueguino> :- <linux_kid> Seveas: Could you ever forgive me for being "billgates" in #ubuntu-offtopic? <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: 23:03 <@insanity> karma for tm_t: -389 <willys_fueguino> lol! <willys_fueguino> Tm_T: :-SSSS <Seveas> @karma tm_t <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Yeah, so small numbers still :( <Ubugtu> negative infinity <Tm_T> Ubugtu: Thanks <3 <willys_fueguino> Tm_T: but why's that?? <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Well, #amarok say "~tm_t" ;) <willys_fueguino> it could be 'cause you didn't contributed on a long time?? <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: No, karma that insanity returns is #amarok karma only ;) <willys_fueguino> :-S * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgwork] by ChanServ <LjL> apokryphos: watch #ubuntu... :-) <apokryphos> watched 8) <LjL> noted ;) <apokryphos> woop, dinner * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> apokryphos: buen provercho ;-) <linux_kid> look at the comment from tito_linux in #ubuntu <linux_kid> <tito_linux> I am so close to suicide! [What happened to family friendly?] * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <willys_fueguino> linux_kid: :-\ <linux_kid> yes i know <willys_fueguino> linux_kid: figurative speaking :-\ <linux_kid> its still pushing the envolope <willys_fueguino> But I'm not the right person to talk about that <linux_kid> lol * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v hybrid] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ * willys_fueguino est ausente: Visitennos en #ubuntu-lat! * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@unaffiliated/willysfueguino] by Seveas * mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Seveas] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ #ubuntu-ops 2007-02-02 * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v hybrid] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v hybrid] by ChanServ <Seveas> nixternal, poke * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <nixternal> Seveas: ouch! <Seveas> nixternal, heh <Seveas> can you please add the IRC oprators meeting to the fridge agnda <Seveas> it's on feb. 15, 5AM UTC <nixternal> I thought I did before, but sure, will do right now! <nixternal> sweet, 5am UTC! <Seveas> you couldn't have done it before, I haven't asked yet :) <LjL> ...5am <LjL> tell me how it goes :P <gnomefreak> ham UTC? <gnomefreak> 5am UTC? <Seveas> hehe <Seveas> LjL, 6AM isn't too early ;) <LjL> noooo <Seveas> you can manage to stay awake until then ;) <LjL> i'll be as awake as a morning bird :) <nixternal> Seveas: is there an agenda wiki page? <LjL> err, yeah, perhaps that :P <Seveas> nixternal, yes, but it still has the contents of the old meeting <Seveas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcOperatorMeetingAgenda <gnomefreak> what day? <nixternal> Seveas: done! <LjL> 15 february <Seveas> gracias <gnomefreak> i can try to be awake <nixternal> no problemo <nixternal> I will be awake. 05:00 UTC == 23:00 here :) <gnomefreak> nixternal: try again its 00:00 atleast i thought you were EST * nixternal is CST <nixternal> Chicago Standard Time :) * Minataku looks around and gently pokes LjL <LjL> here <LjL> oh right, thought i'd unbanned you already <Minataku> Nope, but then it's about 20m shy of 24h <Minataku> lol <gnomefreak> lol @ Chicago Standard Time * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Cryoniq said: !Windows Vista is the devil <Minataku> lol <Kamping_Kaiser> lol <ubotu> In ubotu, frogzoo said: no xmms is Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Audacious, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs <LjL> !xmms <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs <LjL> ? <LjL> !-xmms <ubotu> xmms is <alias> players - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 08:43:29 <gnomefreak> lol <gnomefreak> he added audacious <LjL> oh <LjL> didn't spot that <gnomefreak> but i dont think its in repos atleast ive never seen it <LjL> however... he tried that already, but we decided it'd be better to leave it out since it's not in the repos, yeah <LjL> !audacious <ubotu> A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads <gnomefreak> its in feist <LjL> he'd added this one <LjL> i'll just tell him <gnomefreak> y <gnomefreak> its in feisty repos <gnomefreak> audacious: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.2.2-3 <LjL> well, wouldn't it be better to wait until Feisty is stable before putting it on the list? <gnomefreak> its a fork of beep <LjL> after all, there's a lot of players on the list already, if we include things that are not in the repos yet... <gnomefreak> LjL: agreed <gnomefreak> that supports winamp skins :( * Kamping_Kaiser thought xmms already did that <Minataku> Define what determines something to be "stable" <gnomefreak> it does <Minataku> I know Debian's definition of stable is if a package is more than 5 years old <Kamping_Kaiser> Minataku, in debian, when its > 6 months since freeze, in ubuntu, when its existed for 6 months ;) <LjL> Minataku: i mean "when it's released" <Minataku> What's *buntu's definition? <gnomefreak> Minataku: stable == been tested and approved <Minataku> LjL: I know, but my question is different <Kamping_Kaiser> !stable <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. <LjL> Minataku: i don't have a definition for "stable" * Kamping_Kaiser eyes off ubotu <Minataku> gnomefreak: And who tests these things? How much testing does it actually take? <Minataku> I'm asking legitimately <Minataku> I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, I actually want to know this <Minataku> lol <LjL> i'm not a developer... <gnomefreak> Minataku: about 6 months of testing and normally people that know what they are doing should test <Minataku> 6 months is quite excessive, I would think <gnomefreak> devel tests it before its released into release <Minataku> I certainly hope security software such as OpenSSL is exempt from such extended testing <LjL> ?! <gnomefreak> Minataku: not everything can be tested for 6 months ofcourse but some things do * tonyyarusso just walked in on this and is very very confused <Seeker`> i think security patches are different? <LjL> Seeker`: they sure are <Minataku> Ah, okay <gnomefreak> tonyyserver: i didnt just walk in and so am i <gnomefreak> Seeker`: they are <LjL> anyway, this is getting a tad offtopic for here i think? <gnomefreak> they are tested in alpha and backported or released into security when we think it wont mess up a stable system <Minataku> It's a legitimate question about operation of the entire distro <LjL> yeah this channel is about operation of the ubuntu support channels though <Minataku> gnomefreak: Still, with enough people testing, I doubt everything needs 6 months <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, can i pm you for a moment <Minataku> LjL: My bad, sorry <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: sure. <gnomefreak> Minataku: read my post above the one that starts with Minataku: NOT <gnomefreak> wish people would think sometimes :( <Minataku> gnomefreak: Yes, but that line indicates that it should ALWAYS be 6mo <Minataku> And that less is somehow inferior testing <Minataku> That line being the one that starts with "Minataku: not" * mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@unaffiliated/willysfueguino] by nalioth <Seeker`> Minataku: Unless it is patching a security hole, or particularly bad bug, it doesn't hurt to test it for 6 months, a small change in code could have hidden effects and affect other packages. You need that long to ensure it works in as many different configurations of packages as possible <Minataku> I suppose such may be needed for an "It just works" distro, but it still seems quite excessive given that an active project means that it will stagnate very quickly <gnomefreak> LjL: didnt you stop this topic a while ago? <gnomefreak> ;) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ <Seeker`> sorry * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ <Minataku> gnomefreak: You were the first to continue it after that, in all honesty ;3 <gnomefreak> but i stopped when i saw what he said <Minataku> But, sorry, I just figured it'd be better to ask the higher-ups where they all are rather than the users who don't know <Minataku> I'm not aware of any more appropriate place to ask than here so I apologize for taking the channel offtopic <gnomefreak> Minataku: #ubuntu-motu would be the best place for that <Minataku> Ah, I'll keep that in mind the next time I have an administrative question :3 <gnomefreak> Minataku: development is not an admin question <Minataku> I meant administrative to the distribution <Hobbsee> !schedule <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule <Minataku> It wasn't exactly a development question <Minataku> It was a question about the testing and approval policy <Minataku> Which is an administrative manner <gnomefreak> how is testing done, and what stable means has nothing to do with IRC ops <Minataku> Channel operators != IRC Operators <gnomefreak> we have staff in here too <gnomefreak> Minataku: why ar eyou in here? <gnomefreak> are you even <Minataku> I think I got yelled at yesterday then I came in here to yell back or something <no0tic> hi, how can I use /remove with a multi-word reason? <Hobbsee> Minataku: was banned from #kubuntu yesterday <Hobbsee> no0tic: stick a : in between the nick and reason :) <Hobbsee> took me ages to figure that one out <Minataku> Only for 24h <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: do we know what for? <Minataku> Ah, yes, the raw command delimiter <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: you'd have to ask ljl, he set the ban <Minataku> Clients typically fill in the : <no0tic> Hobbsee, like /remove #ubuntu-it <nick>:non floodare mai pi <Minataku> It's expired anyway <Hobbsee> ah yes, it would be over 24h by now. seeing as it was during the meeting. <Minataku> no0tic: Space after <nick> <Hobbsee> no0tic: yep <no0tic> Hobbsee, ok thanks <Minataku> Why the extreme dependence on services? <Hobbsee> Minataku: actually, that ban should be undone, you know <LjL> it is <Minataku> It is, but I do have another question, what is with the dependence on services? You can set modes manually, you know, not to mention kick and such <gnomefreak> we do? <Minataku> Yeah, I've never seen a manual ban once, and one person in here also was unaware that channel operators can set channel modes manually <gnomefreak> yes you have <gnomefreak> if you have been around more than a week you have <gnomefreak> brb <Minataku> Ah <Minataku> Sorry about that, I tend to ramble sometimes <ubotu> In ubotu, dimeo said: what is the command prompt <eff> jenda, ping <eff> any staffer around... having troubles with my nick... I'm effie_jayx * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ <DBO> jenda, poke poke squeak squeak you get the idea <Jucato> heh :) <nalioth> malt can be considered banned in any channel you wish * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ <nalioth> here is the reason: 6585208393:24 -!- MalevolenT [davidhull@example.net] has quit [K-lined] just exploited ##windows <Amaranth> DBO: Can you give me access in #ubuntu-xgl? <DBO> Amaranth, you would need to talk to one of the channel contacts for that (that was the rule as Im aware of it) <Amaranth> i thought we decided 30 access meant channel contact? <DBO> I didnt hear that if we did, you'll have to ask one of the others * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ <Amaranth> DBO: In that case can you edit the topic to point out that the last message in there is for beryl? I'm quite happy to support compiz git. :) * tonyyarusso is back if anyone needed him <nalioth> no, you can go back to sleep, tonyyarusso <tonyyarusso> nalioth: soon... <tonyyarusso> nalioth: are there server problems atm? <tonyyarusso> User claiming they can't connect. <nalioth> tonyyarusso: not that i'm aware of <tonyyarusso> hrm, okay <nalioth> i always like to see folks here claiming they can't connect. <tonyyarusso> This one's on AIM. ;) * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v fdoving] by ChanServ <nalioth> can anyone explain what all xgl / aiglx / compiz / beryl and all that is about? <Jucato> eye candy :) <nalioth> i need a composite desktop and have no idea how to proceed <tonyyarusso> Looking pretty. <tonyyarusso> lol <mneptok> "need?" <Jucato> compiz and beryl (which is a fork of beryl) are compositing window managers <tonyyarusso> "I need a composite desktop"... <nalioth> unfortunately, some folks are writing programs that only run on composite desktops * Jucato doesn't know the difference between XGL/AIGLX though <Jucato> now why would they do that... <mneptok> Jucato: GL rendering engines for X <Jucato> mneptok: that's AIGLX right? <mneptok> XGL/AIGLX <Jucato> yeah. I mean the difference between them. All I know is that AIGLX is officially in X.org... or something like that <Amaranth> XGL is an X server that does all drawing using OpenGL and runs on top of a normal X server <Amaranth> AIGLX basically lets your normal X server do that OpenGL drawing stuff :) <Jucato> aaaah <Jucato> ok. that sort of clears it up :) * Jucato wouldn't dare go into technical details... <nalioth> Amaranth: which one is easiest and most stable on dapper? <Amaranth> on dapper? <Amaranth> don't bother trying <Amaranth> XGL would be best but you need a newer XGL, xcomposite, and mesa than dapper has <mneptok> Jucato: remeber "AI" stands for "Accelerated *In*direct" <nalioth> so it doesn't work on dapper? <Jucato> mneptok: hm.. ok. thanks :) <Amaranth> nalioth: not really * nalioth goes off to follow the wiki compiz page <Amaranth> nalioth: the hacky way compiz-quinn/beryl supported it broke upgrades to edgy unless you used update-manager (which had a special case coded in to unbreak this) <Amaranth> and if you mean the compiz stuff on help.ubuntu.com it's outdated, last time i checked <Amaranth> it was talking about that compiz-quinn/beryl stuff i just mentioned <nalioth> Amaranth: all of my upgrades have been broken. i don't ever upgrade w/o an alternative install disc to bail me out * tonyyarusso clicks the enable desktop effects button <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: feisty is awesome like that, no? <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: yeah. It only kinda works here though. <tonyyarusso> (compiz, not feisty) * mneptok ticks the "Please don't allow my CPU to melt through the mobo/Disable" checkbox <Amaranth> mneptok: if it makes your CPU usage go up you've got a crappy GPU/driver :) <mneptok> uh huh <mneptok> or i need more Kool-Aid <jenda> DBO: pong <DBO> jenda, squeak squeak squeak beryl cloak squeak squeak squeak <jenda> right :) <DBO> there might be cornbread in this for you <DBO> keep that in mind <DBO> *wink wink* <mneptok> please god don't let that be a euphemism <DBO> only you... * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ * tonyyarusso wants cornbread <mneptok> willys_fueguino: heya. <willys_fueguino> ;-) <willys_fueguino> how are you mneptok?? <mneptok> not bad <mneptok> willys_fueguino: is #ubuntu-lat going to become an official channel? * mneptok notices the +v <willys_fueguino> mneptok: mmm... I hope so... <willys_fueguino> mneptok: but I'm op on a LoCo channel <willys_fueguino> mneptok: can't sleep?? <mneptok> willys_fueguino: these are my working hours. <willys_fueguino> :-O * willys_fueguino can't sleep... seems like he's getting wind fobia <willys_fueguino> *phobia <jenda> good morning <jenda> DBO: lol :) <willys_fueguino> jenda: :-D <jenda> DBO: I hope that wasn't metaphorical <DBO> jenda, no Ill bake you corn bread <DBO> I mean how hard can it be <nalioth> DBO: if you're a yankee, quite diffecult <DBO> hehe yankee... * mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v kgoetz] by ChanServ * nixternal is a Yankee and damn proud! <willys_fueguino> X'D <nixternal> however I listen to country music and classic rock, beyond the span of intelligence for a Yankee <tonyyarusso> (anybody want to submit two things to Digg and/or SD?) <nixternal> eww <DBO> country music is the lowest form of all musics... <DBO> anything lower is of course not music <nixternal> DBO: NEVAH! <nixternal> do you know what happens when you play country music backwards? <nixternal> you have money, your wife, dog, and kids come back, and your pick-up starts! <DBO> and george bush is impeached <nixternal> NEVAH! <willys_fueguino> X'D <nixternal> I have no idea where that "nevah" crap come from, but I have done it now a few times today <DBO> stupid murrine engine is broken <tonyyarusso> (my and Dave Sullivan's most recent Planet posts respectively being the items in question ;) ) <nixternal> I just noticed someone ported that to KDE and it looks rather sharp, still a few bugs, but it is on its way <nixternal> tonyyarusso: ahh ya, that is rockin', however I think I would toss road flares onto that ice house :) <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Hehe, we're going for the peaceful but devious approach instead <nixternal> it would be funny though, when it melts, use it to your benefit <nixternal> well see running Vista requires dual core processors to run beyond their max in turn over heating, and those 4 computers they had melted the place <nixternal> Ubuntu on the other hand, hell you don't even need a heat sink, pour beer on your machine! <tonyyarusso> lol <nixternal> You Canucks and your Molson, probably don't want to waste any :) <nixternal> haha, my best friend lives in a hick town outside of Toronto, and when he comes and visits he loads up his suit case with Molson wrapped in all of his socks * mneptok finishes cobbling together a really annoying XTC ringtone <tonyyarusso> are ubotu's planet announcements broken? <tonyyarusso> %config plugins.rss <ubotu> True <tonyyarusso> %config #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.rss <Mez> %config list plugins.rss <ubotu> #announcementPrefix, #bold, #headlineSeparator, #showLinks, @#announce, @feeds, public, and waitPeriod <Mez> %config channel #ubunt-offtopic plugins.rss .announce <Mez> %config channel #ubunt-offtopic plugins.rss.announce <ubotu> <Mez> %config channel #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.rss.announce <ubotu> ubuntusecurity thefridge planetubuntu <Mez> %rss thefridge <ubotu> Your recipes needed for the Official Ubuntu Book! <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/737> || Ubuntu Weekly News: Issue #28 <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/720> || Wiki Weekend - your chance to contribute to Ubuntu documentation <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/719> || Screencast Team <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/713>
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