#ubuntu-cym 2011-01-01 <p_masho> blwyddyn newydd dda is chi, ac i pawd sydd yn a ty, dyma iw dunumiad i, blwyddyn newydd dda it chi ;-) * p_masho not sure of spelling <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-02 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> evening all. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well all. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-03 <brobostigon> morning all. <brobostigon> afternoonings p_masho #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-04 <brobostigon> morning all. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-05 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> noswaith dda markjones <markjones> s'mae <brobostigon> :) <markjones> ohai ianto <ianto> ohai <brobostigon> evening ianto :) <ianto> Good evening brobostigon <markjones> busy on here tonight <ianto> markjones: Did the Bangor Scholarship today for Welsh <ianto> Wasn't that hard to be fair but I can't guarantee that I did well ;) <markjones> ah * markjones is now trying to find work <markjones> there is -nothing- in Sheffield * markjones prods ianto: when does he want the next Ubuntu Cymru meeting/ * ianto is easy going but overworked atm, just name a time that suits others <markjones> ok, will email out on Monday once I'm back in Yorkshire <markjones> it might be that we have an actual meet up in Caerdydd during Half Term, should that be better <ianto> Half Term is from 21st - 25th Feb? <ianto> BUt yeah a get together souns fun <ianto> *sounds * brobostigon will need tosave some money. <markjones> dunno when half term is, all I know is that my mum's birthday is on the 25th Feb <ianto> Cool, in the same month as mine (6th Feb) <markjones> hehe <ianto> my gf is awesome <ianto> :D <brobostigon> :) <markjones> she is pretty awesome as a friend too <ianto> She typed that... -_- <brobostigon> hehe. <brobostigon> :) <markjones> shwmae Mr__T <ianto> ONe simply cannot leave the room anymore <brobostigon> ianto: otherwise your irc client gets highjacked, by acts of GF. * brobostigon lol's @ chris's facebook wall. <Mr__T> halllo <brobostigon> helo Mr__T <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well all. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-06 <brobostigon> morning all. <brobostigon> evening all. <brobostigon> noswaith dda arthurL :) <arthurL> noswaith dda brobostigon :) <ianto> Anyone going to Hacio'r Iaith 2011? <ianto> arthurL: Ping, you're in Aber, if you've taken up Welsh lately you might find it interesting: http://haciaith.com/2011/01/06/hacior-iaith-2011/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-07 <brobostigon> nos da all, sleep well. <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> evening all. <p_masho> anyone around.. Just ping me as need some feedback.. <brobostigon> o/ <p_masho> brobostigon: <p_masho> brobostigon: u there.. U got a wlog <p_masho> brobostigon: u there.. U got a clog <brobostigon> p_masho: idont own clog's. <p_masho> bog, flog, slog.. <brobostigon> ? <p_masho> brobostigon: u can wear them.. <brobostigon> p_masho: clogs, yes. <p_masho> my mums gone out for her "friends togehter evening".. and magic as dad=None.. <brobostigon> ah, ok. <p_masho> so kinda here emotional.. <brobostigon> :( <p_masho> and all access to music for me as a PROF engineer for years is so accessible.. and easy.. <brobostigon> i see. <p_masho> brobostigon: cymro ? <brobostigon> p_masho: cymru? cymraeg? <p_masho> but whatw really driving me nuts is the fact tat the FG socket is blocket at port X, but even more then I can even SVn checkout with tortoisesvn on m$ windows 7 * p_masho winsge and all, then cym area, dai.. who's dai.. <p_masho> brobostigon: We need and ID for ar a disat <markjones> !coc | p_masho <lubotu3> p_masho: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct . <p_masho> brobostigon: daffodil.uk.com <brobostigon> p_masho: ar a disat, i dont understand, <p_masho> brobostigon: sorry.. I'll elllplain again .. This is the current website http://daffodil.uk.com/ <p_masho> brobostigon: now uso debian bob dwyrnod./ <markjones> p_masho, wyt ti wedi bod yn yfed? <markjones> p_masho, have you been drinking? <markjones> p_masho, it's for your own safety that we ask you to leave this channel tonight and return tomorrow, should you later say something which might be in breach of the Code of Conduct or even embarassing <markjones> ianto, welwch y logs <markjones> (os mae 'na ddal rhai ohoni) <p_masho> sorry boyo .. <ianto> markjones: Sa i'n meddwl bod log pwblic 'da ni <p_masho> so I want to put an Ubuntu Daffodil on there.. <markjones> it's alright p_masho, we're just concerned for you <p_masho> and into mach loop and all other stuff u can do with ubuntu.. <markjones> p_masho i'm afraid I don't understand what it is you're after <p_masho> ble i ti <p_masho> ok: >> my rub <p_masho> At last there's somethig down on a welsh// at home in derwydd with coder.HEAD <p_masho> markjones: how do we brand a "free-cyymru"- cd <markjones> hmm <p_masho> markjones: so were here on space man.. and what does my mum want and granny want and kids <p_masho> the PC with the prics on there, the green background, the .. <p_masho> markjones: so we we sell them the first CD.. and vat 0%.. <ianto> p_masho: How are you tonight then? ;) <p_masho> But we NEED I think a .. <p_masho> ? what ? ubuntu taffy ?? . <ianto> We don't have much of the Taffia here sorry... <p_masho> anyway.. the reality <p_masho> I'll blow out around a thousand CD's <p_masho> and make it a "label".. <p_masho> and the CENTER <p_masho> = Xands and also carmarthenhire radio.. <p_masho> ianto: investagate this site.. I wrote the "init" version >> http://www.quickie-divorce.com/ <ianto> p_masho: ABout your point on discs, what do you mean by a "Free Cymru" CD then? Sounds interesting but I'd no idea what it'd contain <ianto> That's gonna be a useful site for the future, eh? <brobostigon> hmmm. <p_masho> what does .cym mean to you? <ianto> Unfortunately, now it means Cayman Islands... <p_masho> and all the other "transali".. <ianto> Else it would've meant Cymraeg, Cymreig neu Gymru <p_masho> Can I ligthen the load a little in this chat cna make come clims to fame.. <ianto> Cer amdani <brobostigon> dave pegg <bruce89> 15-13 <p_masho> is the .cym available ? <brobostigon> p_masho: not anmymore, as ianto said earlier. * p_masho gettings in "solicitor mode".... <ianto> p_masho: It's been giving to the Cayman's through ICANN however I don't think that registrations are available or ever will be due to their .ky domain <ianto> *given <p_masho> <>rewind - can as question again ? <ianto> Go for it <p_masho> is ? .cy <ianto> I think that's Cyprus <brobostigon> ithink so,yes. <p_masho> ianto: So things if your in Cyrus u Nees to be here instea in soutch Wales.. <brobostigon> ? * brobostigon versteht nicht mehr. <p_masho> REALITY === CHECK <p_masho> So whats the chances of one sitting on a channel can accidenttaly bumping into <p_masho> MESSAGE <p_masho> I love rap so might as well run the native.. come on whats the oficial spelling for .. <markjones> p_masho, are you alright? wyt ti'n ok? <p_masho> markjones: chill <p_masho> I can assure you I am fine and actually.. <markjones> can now type? :p <p_masho> you into python ? <markjones> I know the odd snippets * ianto went to EuroPython one year <markjones> i've got no knowledge of any programming languages <p_masho> markjones: Sorry To Scare You <p_masho> markjones: APOLOGY please.. <ianto> markjones: I've got tonnes of books on various languages if you're nice to me for once ;) <brobostigon> play nice, <markjones> p_masho, i was being nice ;) <p_masho> Maybe I took upon myself with some different understaning.. <markjones> the fact you suddenly started typing sentences that we could read came as a shock <p_masho> what did mamy say ? <markjones> i'm sorry? <p_masho> so what is the flavor of the label for me to to go and do for a bunch on managing direct.. as one example.. <p_masho> markjones: cymre i ti ? <markjones> p_masho, o Fangor aye <p_masho> is IT down from MACH loop ? <bruce89> they've put Parks on at 12!? <ianto> Interesting fact: Once upon a time, 3/4 of everything written down in the world was from a Birmingham pen <brobostigon> p_masho: http://pastebin.com/u7KmY9Ni that is what youhave said, * p_masho is got a sanwich and been coding all night... <p_masho> brobostigon: sorry <p_masho> actually I apolise to all for being a "bit" diverse..# <p_masho> anyway I love u all;-) <markjones> p_masho, in answer to your question about the CD cover: a Flag of Wales and on the other side the Ubuntu logo <p_masho> markjones: NO cooler than that.. a kinda green tints.. <markjones> p_masho, a white/red/green tint <p_masho> markjones: help me.. I got daffodil.uk.com and I want to hae the "steady ubuntu" <markjones> what do you mean by 'steady ubuntu' <p_masho> reality check is that I was confronted with 2 scenarios, PDF problem and svncheckout not in shell.. <p_masho> markjones: its steady.. <p_masho> can I explain how I deploy and internet app > <<| <markjones> sure <p_masho> markjones: hey before u debate shat we consider < xmlll stream.. <markjones> i've got no idea about xml <markjones> sorry <p_masho> So all we want is "json" <markjones> mhm <bruce89> .part <markjones> bruce89, try /part ;) #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-08 <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-09 <brobostigon> afternoonings all #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-10 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-11 <brobostigon> morning all. <Bryn_S> ho-hum <brobostigon> noswaith dda Bryn_S <Bryn_S> shwmae <Bryn_S> pwy fydd yn dod i Hacio'r Iaith? <brobostigon> Bryn_S: i dont understand. <brobostigon> sorry, <Bryn_S> sorry :) <Bryn_S> just asking if anyone was coming to Hacio'r Iaith <Bryn_S> a barcamp style event in Aberystwyth at the end of the month <brobostigon> i see. ah.. :) <brobostigon> Bryn_S: i understood some of it, but it didnt totally make sense. <Bryn_S> no worries :) <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> noswaith dda ianto <ianto> Shwmae <markjones> ianto, Next month do you fancy a road/rail trip to Scotland? <markjones> we can watch Wales V Scotland <ianto> markjones: Date? <markjones> 12 February: <markjones> England v Italy (Twickenham, London, 1430 GMT) <markjones> Scotland v Wales (Murrayfield, Edinburgh, 1700 GMT) <markjones> we could meet bruce89 <ianto> A bit pricey <markjones> hokay <markjones> thought I'd ask <ianto> I'm getting like Â£70 on tickets <ianto> Any cheaper ones elsewhere? <markjones> only ones that are ?5 cheaper <ianto> Ticket master isn't selling them but it says from Â£33 to Â£77 ticket costs <markjones> aah <markjones> Millennium Stadium tickets are more expensive :( <ianto> Aye but the cost of travelling would be cheaper I guess <markjones> aye <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. <AlanBell> nos da and all that <ianto> Croeso a phopeth arall <AlanBell> in a few weeks there will be this http://www.opensourceexpo.co.uk/ going on in London <ianto> Welcome and everything else <AlanBell> the -uk loco has a stand in the .org village <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/linuxexposchedule <AlanBell> if anyone wants to pop across for it you would be most welcome <ianto> AlanBell: Awesome, I doubt that I'd be able to go because I should be in Aberystwyth for the uni there but someone else might be interested in the event <AlanBell> here is our general plan of stuff for the year, feel free to add stuff going on in Wales http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan <AlanBell> or anywhere else for that matter <ianto> Well for us Welshies there's a Hacio'r Iaith event that we can attend in Aber at the end of January. I have asked in here before but no-one's responded to if they wanna come yet <ianto> As a matter of fact I might as well post to the list <ianto> Perhaps SWLUG as well <ianto> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cym/2011-January/000065.html -- For anyone interested #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-12 <ianto> chippanfat: Hi <chippanfat> hiya :) <chippanfat> just saw your post and thought i should log on :D <ianto> chippanfat: Lol you're off to Hacio;r Iaith? ;) <ianto> markjones: Were you thinking of going btw? <chippanfat> I'd like to, but it said it'll be presented in welsh :( <ianto> markjones: If you ever see Kaia ask her too, I remember that you two used to talk alot <ianto> chippanfat: I've configured the FB group so that all mailing list messages get sent through FB too :D <chippanfat> :D <chippanfat> my aim of this year is to go to confrences and seminars about technology :)_ <chippanfat> so i'd be happy going ^_^ <ianto> chippanfat: http://www.opensourceexpo.co.uk/ <ianto> It's in London though if you can afford getting there <chippanfat> where in london? :) <ianto> The Barbican <chippanfat> no idea where that is xD <ianto> Chuck it in Google Maps <ianto> chippanfat: If you do go, how you getting there? <chippanfat> megabus or drive :) <ianto> I might reschedule my Aber journey for the uni if I be your passenger ;) <ianto> I've got a departmental visiting day to go with my offer <chippanfat> haha xD centre of london :P <chippanfat> departmental visting? <chippanfat> whats that about? :) <ianto> chippanfat: Visiting the Welsh department in the uni to see how the teaching is <ianto> chippanfat: Well if you think of going to that expo, lemme know ;) <Kaia> what about Kaia? <ianto> Kaia: Ti'n meddwl am fynd i Hacio'r Iaith? <Kaia> Hacio'r Iaith?? <ianto> Kaia: http://haciaith.com/2011/01/06/hacior-iaith-2011/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter <ianto> chippanfat: You have a PS3 don;t you? <ianto> Kaia: Beth yt ti'n meddwl amdani? <Kaia> looks cool ianto, where in aber is it? <ianto> Kaia: http://hedyn.net/wici/Hacio'r_Iaith_-_Ionawr_2011#Ble.3F <ianto> Adeilad Parry Williams <Kaia> Ahhh TFTV <Kaia> are you going? staying overnight? <chippanfat> Ianto: I do have a ps3 :) <ianto> I'm thinking of going <ianto> Dunno if I could afford to stay overnight though ;) <ianto> chippanfat: You gonna put Linux on there when the exploits get released/developed? <Kaia> ianto: I can put you up for the night <Kaia> or two <Kaia> but you would have to be pretty silent, all my housemates have exams that week <Kaia> I have one on the 29th at 2pm <ianto> Kaia: Thanks for the offer, perhaps coming up for the evening of the 28th and then go back on the evening of the 29th if I take advantage of your offer but I need to see how things work out first because Amber is adament in coming (so hi'n siarad Cymraeg!) <Kaia> she can stay at mine too <Kaia> I have two comfy sofas <Kaia> also I have a parking space outside my house <Kaia> so you can park your car there <Kaia> 29th is my last exam so wooo pub <Amberina> hola <Kaia> Amberina!!! <chippanfat> Ianto: YES ! :D <ianto> chippanfat: :D :D :D <ianto> chippanfat: It hopefully won't take much longer than a month <Amberina> hey Kaia <ianto> whois chippanfat <ianto> Oops :p <Amberina> Kaia: guess how me and ianto are spending our anniversary <ianto> chippanfat: The PS3 has a 3.2GHz processor to play around with <Kaia> Amberina: how? <ianto> And obviously HDMI output <Amberina> in aber <Amberina> :[ <Kaia> awww <ianto> I told you to re-schedule it <Amberina> ianto: xbox is better <Kaia> he can take you out for a nice dinner Amberina :) <Kaia> and he will have to spoil you too :P <chippanfat> Kaia: I agree ! :D <Amberina> so do i :) <Kaia> hehe <ianto> chippanfat: Hey! Perhaps you can take me to T-Bones Mr Flynn-Harding ;) <Amberina> ianto: im not rescheduling <ianto> What's wrong with changing the date? :( <Kaia> haha boys <Kaia> ianto: You can't change the date! <Amberina> ianto: you can take me to tbones again yummy <ianto> Amberina: Hehe it costs like Â£30 per person... <Kaia> What is Tbones? <chippanfat> Ianto: TAYBARNS FTW ! <ianto> Kaia: http://www.greenlanterns.co.uk/t-bones/index.html <Kaia> Isn't Taybarns == Model T? <ianto> The Ford? <Amberina> what is taybarns <ianto> http://www.t-bones.co.uk/ - Might be the more updated site <Amberina> its lush <chippanfat> Amberina: taybarns is an all you can eat in swansea ;D <Amberina> ooo cool... i like food <Kaia> ianto: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF8&q=model+t+bridgend&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=model+t&hnear=Bridgend&cid=0,0,11184903397115536603&sqi=2&ll=51.499486,-3.533306&spn=0,0.026157&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.499614,-3.533406&panoid=rEvwxRp8VZmjJbDvza0jgQ&cbp=12,300.03,,0,11.2 <Kaia> thats teh Model T <chippanfat> make him treat you :D <Kaia> i think its a Taybarns...I've never been to an actual Taybarns <ianto> Kaia: Btw if you go to Hacio'r Iaith, reply on-list ;) <Kaia> on what? <Amberina> he treats me lots :) <chippanfat> N'awhhh :D <ianto> Kaia: UBuntu Cymru mailing list <Kaia> ahh right <ianto> Taybarns actually looks not half bad <ianto> Nice pricing as well <ianto> Thinking about it, at Hacio'r Iaith, it'd be my first time ever giving a talk in Welsh if I choose a topic to talk about <ianto> Me and another guy Carl were gonna talk about setting up mobile phone translations (Android) for Welsh <ianto> But I may let him do that and pick my own topic <ianto> Might do something on Launchpad as a service <Amberina> ianto: you should your welsh is good enough <Kaia> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20110111/tsc-hubble-telescope-finds-space-blob-4b158bc.html <Kaia> :O <ianto> Amberina: It ought to be after all this time ;) <Amberina> :) <p_masho> anyone here at an university? am a flightgear developer, so fin interested in the terrain model..in particular would be inplementing the machloop is welsh of course.. <markjones> p_masho, i'd email the mailing list <chippanfat> @ianto: could you send me the link about the confrence thingy in london please? :) <markjones> chippanfat, it was in Aberystwyth <markjones> one mo: <chippanfat> he sent me on about london tooo :) <chippanfat> i think he did, i remember google earthing the name of the building its in :p <Mr__T> so I think I might be in aber on the 29th <markjones> i'll be in Aber too <chippanfat> I'm hoping to go to either one :D <chippanfat> what is the one in aber about too? :) <markjones> prepare Google Translate for this: http://hedyn.net/wici/Hacio'r_Iaith_-_Ionawr_2011 <chippanfat> i want to update my facebook status about it :D <markjones> hehe <chippanfat> will the whole event be in welsh? <markjones> *shrug* <markjones> i guess most of it will be <chippanfat> ahhh :/ i'm not as welsh speaker <chippanfat> :( <chippanfat> and I cant understand it either :/ #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-13 <Bryn_S> re Welsh speaking at Hacio'r Iaith, they're working on getting translation gear in there for non-Welsh speakers <brobostigon> afternoonings all. * Kaia is gutted she can't go to Hacio'r Iaith, stupid exam <brobostigon> :( <Kaia> I have an exam at 2pm <brobostigon> i see. not good, :( <Kaia> I just invited one of my lecturers to Hacio'r Iaith :) <brobostigon> :) <Kaia> My lecturer was one of the people who wrote the app to learn Welsh on the Iphone <brobostigon> cool. :) <Kaia> http://www.aber.ac.uk/en/news/archive/2009/august/title-77816-en.html <Kaia> Adrian <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> i know this is going to sound dense ! but would you guys know how i go about copying files to a usb pen on terminal? <chippanfat> its one of the things i've never done xD <brobostigon> chippanfat: df -h -T ,to find the mount point. <chippanfat> been looking on the interwebz for a while but i've found nothing <chippanfat> I'll give it a try now :) <brobostigon> chippanfat: and then use "cp" to copy the files to the mountpoint of that drive, <chippanfat> ahhh :/ it cant find anything :( <brobostigon> chippanfat: paste the output of df -h -T <brobostigon> and is the usb drive mounted,can yousee it in nautilus? <chippanfat> I'll have to sort you out with a image and a link from photobucket :) i'm using a virtual machine atm see and it wont let me copy Â¬.Â¬ <brobostigon> ok. <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/df.png <chippanfat> you'll have to excuse, i done the df command twice :p <brobostigon> noworries :) <brobostigon> chippanfat: your usb isnt mounted, ok, get the /dev of it with "fdisk -l" <chippanfat> right ok :) <chippanfat> nothing has apeard when i do the df command again <brobostigon> so not even "/ root "shows up ? <chippanfat> nope :/ <chippanfat> I've got /dev/sda1 <brobostigon> that shouldnt be possible,because youcant have a running syste,m without root. <chippanfat> which show the size of the HDD but thats about it <chippanfat> :/ i dont think it would matter that its in a virtual machine either <brobostigon> same as a real system inreal terms. <chippanfat> yeahh :) <chippanfat> yeahh :) <chippanfat> i'll resort to install the xubuntu desktop :P <brobostigon> chippanfat: that doesnt solve the problem, it could make it more complex. <brobostigon> or break things more, <chippanfat> its just so i can drag and drop :) <chippanfat> i've been trying to be good and run the servers just in command line see :) <chippanfat> I dont do a good job of it though xD <brobostigon> chippanfat: xfce will need the samedetails aswe are trying tofind out, if it cant get them, it wont be able to do it either, <chippanfat> ahhh :/ <chippanfat> i'll keep googling :) <brobostigon> so trying to install xfce could complicate things even more, <brobostigon> chippanfat: reboot it, and try again. <chippanfat> okiedokie :) <brobostigon> chippanfat: and is the virtual machine setto share the usb with the system inside the virtual machine? <chippanfat> yeahh :) it shares the virtual drives and usb's :) ohhh, and with a bridged net connection <brobostigon> ok, <brobostigon> what is the output of fdisk -l <chippanfat> You'll have to give me a bit xD the vm is doing something wanky :p <brobostigon> ok, <brobostigon> can you define wanky? <brobostigon> clarify? <chippanfat> sorry :P seven is doing the whole "not responding" thing on the vmware <chippanfat> i'm just waiting for the proccess to terminate :) <brobostigon> ok. <brobostigon> chippanfat: iwillbrb, just need to wet my whistle. <chippanfat> okiedokie :) <brobostigon> back, :) <brobostigon> chippanfat: ok, back, :) <chippanfat> hiya :) <chippanfat> just restarting the vm :) <brobostigon> ok, :) <chippanfat> fdisk -l dosent pull anything up :/ <chippanfat> but it does complete the command with no error <brobostigon> chippanfat: dmesg | grep /dev <brobostigon> chippanfat: dmesg | grep usb <chippanfat> registered new usb interface :) <brobostigon> ok, what oes the first output ? <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/usb.png <chippanfat> want me to "DF" it again? :) <brobostigon> dmesg | grep /dev <chippanfat> adding 407548k swap on /dev/sda5 <brobostigon> thats it? <chippanfat> and it output about the sleep, power and mouse wheel buttons <brobostigon> anything else ? <chippanfat> nothing :( <brobostigon> also can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" <chippanfat> i cant copy from the vm :( another photobucket job xD <brobostigon> ohwell, only waybout it, <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/123.png <brobostigon> chippanfat: inthat case, i either would sayits not sharing the usb device properly, for ubuntu to pick it up. <chippanfat> I'll go and attempt to re-configue the vm :) <brobostigon> thats the only reason i can think of, that ubuntu cant see the usb drive, <chippanfat> yeahh :) <chippanfat> its found it on the servers if i do these commands :) <brobostigon> i amnot sure what you mean ? <chippanfat> those commands let me identify the usb's etc on the servers :) which arnt virtual machines :) <chippanfat> i just went and had a quick look now <chippanfat> to make sure that it is most likley the vmware on this comptuer for the usb's not being visible :) <brobostigon> i see, so thatsays to me,the VM is sharing the usb properly. <brobostigon> isnt* <chippanfat> i got confused then haha xD just kept reading that over and over :p <brobostigon> sorry. :) <chippanfat> haha :D <chippanfat> i've broken some of the networking files on the servers see xD <brobostigon> :( <chippanfat> so i've installed the vmware so i can get a fresh copy of them to copy over on the real servers <chippanfat> thtats my reason for woundering how to copy :) <brobostigon> we can try and fix them if you want. <chippanfat> its literally from setting a static ip xD <brobostigon> i see. <chippanfat> I'll email the files to my self xD <chippanfat> nice simple fix then :D <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> Right, i must dash :) gotta go pick my father up from work :( <chippanfat> thankyou for your help :) :D xoxoxoxo <brobostigon> youre welcome, bye chippanfat :) <brobostigon> helo chippanfat <chippanfat> Hey :) <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> you'll have to bear with me a sec :) need a shower xD <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> Helloo ^_^ <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> finally got that server working :) <chippanfat> copied all the networking files from the other server :p <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> thats good, <chippanfat> :D need to get a file server and a lamp server on the go see :) <chippanfat> i keep breaking them :P i think vmware server 2 is the way forward somehow :p <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> least I cant break the physical machine and its just a case of deleting and staring again :p <brobostigon> i am always here, if you need help. :) <chippanfat> :D <chippanfat> I'm doing my best to make this channel my second home ! :D <chippanfat> i found this irc client for windows called Xchat and i've taken to the GUI :) so its constantly on in the corner of my screen :p <brobostigon> chippanfat: #unity-coders are very nice aswell. <chippanfat> I'll have a look at them now :) <brobostigon> i help out there aswell. and we have a new inoprogress website, unity-coders.co.uk/drupal <chippanfat> :D <brobostigon> the poll was mythought, :) <chippanfat> :D <chippanfat> i cant get it to load :( <brobostigon> it does and will load. try reloading it a few times. <chippanfat> @brobostigon: nothing :( and brbb :) <brobostigon> ok, hmm. :( <brobostigon> try http://www.unitycoders.co.uk/drupal/ <chippanfat> hiya :) <chippanfat> working now :) <chippanfat> and i like it :D <chippanfat> whats the main aim of unity coders? :) <brobostigon> http://www.unitycoders.co.uk/drupal/about describes it quite well. <chippanfat> haha xD I should really pay more attention to things :p <brobostigon> no wworries. <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-14 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> evening all. <brobostigon> noswaith dda Mr__T <Mr__T> noswaith dda iawn <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> nos da,sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-15 <brobostigon> afternoonings all, <brobostigon> wb the Real Kaia :) <Kaia> hehe thanks brobostigon <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> welcome, :) <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-16 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> afternoonings spectre <spectre> hiho <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> afternoonings chippanfat :) <chippanfat> Helloo :) <chippanfat> how are we all? <brobostigon> chippanfat: my eczema is alittle calmer, however i am alittle emotional and depression creeping. how about you? <chippanfat> I'm good :) a bit gutted I've woken up so late though. I wanted to get on with some uni work before going to work :( <chippanfat> gotta stay up late tonight now :( <brobostigon> :( <chippanfat> Its my own fault for staying up to late :( <brobostigon> lol. yes. <chippanfat> haha xD <brobostigon> sorry. <chippanfat> :) dw <brobostigon> dw ? <chippanfat> dont worry :) <brobostigon> ah, :) <chippanfat> I enjoy doing my college work too, I seriously cannot be bothered to go and give people pizza tonight xD <brobostigon> hmm, <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-17 <TonyBurn> is it normally this quiet in here? <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> afternoonings spectre <spectre> hi <TonyBurn> so yea <TonyBurn> wales ubuntu is busy <nullox> brobostigon: do you remember the IBM keyboards ? <brobostigon> nullox: yes, <TonyBurn> which IBM keyboards? <TonyBurn> lo btw <brobostigon> the one with the weird bend in the middle. <nullox> the keyboards known to be very clicky and "noisey", something I miss <nullox> strong build, good quality keyboards <brobostigon> with proper switches. <TonyBurn> http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8715/brandnewibmkeyboard.jpg <TonyBurn> those? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: thats a newer one. <nullox> the keys were chunky <nullox> and great for typing <brobostigon> yes. <TonyBurn> i have that one under my desk in work still, loved it for typing on, only reason i'm not using it now is because its ps2 so cant plug into my laptop without converter which i dont have <nullox> I want one for programming <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-18 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> afternoonings chippanfat1 <chippanfat1> Hello :) my desktop at home is idle xD so i've been demoted to number one :p <brobostigon> ohwell :( <dumblegore> thats a better username than chippanfat1 :p <brobostigon> :) <dumblegore> :D <dumblegore> how are you? :) <brobostigon> dumblegore: not good,feeling very ill, my eczema is infected. how about you? <dumblegore> awhh mann :/ i'm good :) just tired from all the assignements for uni :( <brobostigon> :( <brobostigon> anyone have any pain killers, please. <dumblegore> get on the wisky :D <brobostigon> umm, <brobostigon> i havent got any. <brobostigon> hey chippanfat <chippanfat> back again :D <brobostigon> :) <chippanfat> getting a little computer time before work :D <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-19 <TonyBurn> bore da cymru <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <brobostigon> afternoonings spectei <spectei> hi <brobostigon> evening all. <TonyBurn> gd evening <brobostigon> noswaith dda TonyBurn <TonyBurn> evening sir <TonyBurn> is it normally this quiet in here then? <markjones> yes <brobostigon> sometimes. <markjones> but most of us idle and appear once somebody says hello <TonyBurn> oh, tidy darts <TonyBurn> where you both from then? i'm located in mid wales <brobostigon> banbury, north oxfordshire. <markjones> I'm originally from Bangor, but am in Sheffield <markjones> TonyBurn, you coming to Hacio'r Iaith in Aberystwyth on the 29th? <TonyBurn> afrid not markjones, I have no idea (without googleing rt now) what Hacio'r Iath is <TonyBurn> aber is about an hours drive from here <TonyBurn> (Llandrindod Wells) <markjones> http://haciaith.com/2011/01/06/hacior-iaith-2011/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter <markjones> P <markjones> * :p <Kaia> markjones: I had my assessment today! <TonyBurn> heh, being all welsh I doubt i'd be able to contribute or learn much <Kaia> hello TonyBurn, nice to meet you bach <brobostigon> noswaith dda Kaia :) <TonyBurn> lo Kaia <Kaia> hey brob! * brobostigon gives Kaia loads of huggles. * Kaia huggles brobostigon <markjones> Kaia, oh good :) * brobostigon 's eczema is infected and is feeling really ill. <markjones> Kaia, mind if I stay Friday and Saturday night too? :P <markjones> actually, scratch that <markjones> original plan will do * brobostigon feels alittle better because of Kaia's huggles, <Kaia> what original plan? <Kaia> markjones: You don't know what assessment i'm on about do you? <markjones> Kaia, the plan discussed on Facebook and you had a Dyslexia assesment <Kaia> markjones: Nope, other assessment. Ahh that plan <markjones> :P <brobostigon> nos da, sleepwell. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-20 <brobostigon> morning all. <brobostigon> afternoonings chippanfat :) <TonyBurn> evening <brobostigon> noswaith dda TonyBurn <TonyBurn> lo <TonyBurn> raid card had a wobbler on the server today and took me off irc :o <brobostigon> :( <brobostigon> not good. <TonyBurn> no, luckily someone was around to hard reset it as i have no kvm <brobostigon> i see. <TonyBurn> pfffft, can i be arsed parsing or looking for a plugin to get my linkedin public cv onto my website <TonyBurn> might have aquick look to see if theres a wordpress plugin before i bother to think about writing anything <brobostigon> ok. <TonyBurn> so brobostigon, what do you work at? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i am unemployed right now, but iused to do systems and office admin. <brobostigon> and bits of systems design and manegement. <TonyBurn> ahhh k, sorry to hear your unemployed :/ <TonyBurn> do you contribute to ubuntu/foss development at all? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: debian and ubuntu user support, help with the manegement of ubuntu-cym,user support within ubuntu-cym, testing and bug exploration of haiku-os, and user support within haiku-os and BeOS. <TonyBurn> nice <brobostigon> some of it is quite challenging, and not really recognised, but some if it, like haiku and beos is second nature. <TonyBurn> i need to get my ass into gear and do a little more <brobostigon> TonyBurn: my mind has been focused on recently, thinking about the design of a linux consultency/system design and sales company. <TonyBurn> yea? as a one man band? <brobostigon> probebly. * brobostigon is hating the mathematics. <brobostigon> TonyBurn: thats the bit, i will need help with. <TonyBurn> the maths?! <brobostigon> yes, iam montgomeryrobert@example.net. <TonyBurn> i dont understand how it is such an issue? is it a problem with regards to business accounting? <TonyBurn> or development? <brobostigon> the accounting as well as doing the planning of finanaces. <TonyBurn> if you;re a one man band what overheads are you going to incurr apart from broadband and a laptop? <TonyBurn> everything else is living expenses, ie business as usual <brobostigon> tools, and materials <brobostigon> most of the tools ihave already. <brobostigon> and then maybe a shop. <TonyBurn> most consultants i know cream at least 600 quid a day and have never needed any overheads such as a shop etc <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i am thinking ahead here. <TonyBurn> obviously i dont really know your strategy, business plans, end goals/objectives but if your talking about starting as a one man band i wouldn't burden yourself with overheads that aren't required, i'd address them if they ever are required due to an opportunistic gap in the market <brobostigon> TonyBurn: agreed, i want to start for myself. however i thinking that there might be a market for more consumer product in the future, ad therefore thinking about that, <TonyBurn> dunno what the situation is like locally for you but i'm not soo sure if there will ever be a market there on a local level <brobostigon> well, not striclkly locally, however withhin lets say, oxfordshire, or midlands. <brobostigon> for example. <brobostigon> and there is definatly a market, among certain people within allthe systems linux us used on, for example, tablets, mobilephones, netbooks, etc. <TonyBurn> so your targetting consumer rather then business? <TonyBurn> *you're <brobostigon> ah, business first. <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i would like to design a certain type of machine with haiku though, and another ide for something with android. <TonyBurn> thats all hobby stuff though unless you have a serious business plan behind it? <brobostigon> at the moment, yes, all just simple ideas. <TonyBurn> ok, yes hobby stuff can hit it right at times and generate lots of revenue, but unless your haiku machine s offering something unique i cant see what requirements it could be filling <TonyBurn> *is <brobostigon> it will be offerring some VERY unique things, <TonyBurn> that the consumer cant already get on a commercially supported platform? <brobostigon> yes. <TonyBurn> and most importantly, wants <brobostigon> yes. <TonyBurn> so you've got a vision statement of sorts alrady put together? <brobostigon> and doesnt exist already, on any existing platform. <brobostigon> the basics, yes. <TonyBurn> fair enough :) <TonyBurn> p'ah, usiness plans, visions statements etc etc <TonyBurn> feel like i'm back in work! <TonyBurn> rt, i'm gonna have to move, mrs is shouting at me for being on the computer <TonyBurn> laters <brobostigon> TonyBurn: the basis of it, i had when i was was at college, and designed then, and just needed the right hw and sw to exist, to echieve it. <brobostigon> TonyBurn: bye. <brobostigon> nos da,sleep well. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-21 <TonyBurn> morning <brobostigon> morning all. <TonyBurn> lo #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-22 <brobostigon> afternoonings all. #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-23 <brobostigon> nos da,sleep well all. <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <ianto> markjones: Yo <markjones> ianto, hi <markjones> have we got any disks? <ianto> None official but we could burn like 50 between us <markjones> easily <markjones> what about a presentation? <ianto> Fair enough to do in OO.org <markjones> yup <markjones> and perhaps introduce people to Launchpad (if they are interested in Translations) <markjones> can we get any stuff from the -uk team? <ianto> What sort of stuff do you have in mind? <markjones> Posters, banners, pens <markjones> stuff we got for Serendipity in Bangor <ianto> markjones: http://hedyn.net/wici/Hacio'r_Iaith_-_Ionawr_2011#Sesiynau_Posib <ianto> You want to add anything there? <markjones> I'll add something <ianto> Awesomeness <markjones> ianto, what about merch? Can we buy any stuff from shop.ubuntu.com? <ianto> markjones: Yeah, there are 30 people registered buut I think that you can only buy 20 pens at a time ;) <ianto> They bloody pricey too <markjones> 85p <ianto> For a pen ;) <markjones> aye <ianto> I'll see if I can get a discount or something <markjones> bear in mind it's next weekend <ianto> They have good shipping speeds IIRC <ianto> Just speed in checking emails to worry about <markjones> it's a shame i had to bin the stuff i had in Bangor <ianto> And anyway, I doubt that any other people will be handing anything out <markjones> true that <ianto> It's just a barcamp style conference <ianto> People write a topic and name on the board and if people are interested they turn up <markjones> I'll order 2 pendrives and lanyards so we can install Ubuntu for people <ianto> Ok, I'll chuck Ubuntu 10.10 i386 on my Free Software Foundation pendrive <markjones> hmm, Â£51 for stickers, lanyards and ubuntu pendrives <markjones> that shop's tempting me :( <ianto> I've asked Canonical if I can get 40 pens for Â£15 <markjones> cooooool <ianto> markjones: Might be a fun idea to hand out contact/business cards to people in case they ever wanna get hold of you <markjones> mhm <ianto> Of course you may find that OTT but it's out there <markjones> yeah, trying to remember where I can get some done <ianto> markjones: vistaprint.com/amazon15 <ianto> Actually they might sting you in shipping costs <ianto> 3-day shipping = Â£15 <markjones> ouch <markjones> ianto, what's the welsh word for USB Pendrive? <ianto> I'll look on the WLB site <ianto> Drive as in disk drive is gyriant <ianto> Gyriant USB? <markjones> i'll use that :p <markjones> it's a wiki <ianto> you mean hedyn.net <ianto> ? ^ <markjones> yup <markjones> http://hedyn.net/wici/Hacio'r_Iaith_-_Ionawr_2011#Sesiynau_Posib <ianto> Looks alright <markjones> note i've not locked you into anything apart from having the CD's and Pendrive <ianto> markjones: Seems alright. How we gonna go about preparing stuff? <markjones> ianto, erm, use what we can get our mitts on? <ianto> I meant like presentation/talk w.e. <ianto> markjones: Just sent a sharing invite to your email address <ianto> (Google Docs Presentation) <markjones> cheers ianto <brobostigon> what do i say in welsh as anevening greeting? <ianto> brobostigon: Noswaith dda <ianto> markjones: Just added some speaker notes to the presentation <markjones> ianto, what about getting brobostigon to help with the presentation? <brobostigon> ianto: thats good evening isnt it.? <markjones> (we can translate his input) <markjones> yes brobostigon <brobostigon> markjones: elaborate please, i seem to have missed something. <ianto> brobostigon: Do you have a Google account? <brobostigon> ianto: i do, our montgomeryrobert@example.net and my montgomeryrobert@example.net <ianto> brobostigon: Just sent an invitation to your gmail account <brobostigon> ianto: am just opening it. <brobostigon> ianto: what is it about ? <markjones> brobostigon, it's for the Hacio'r Iaith thing <ianto> brobostigon: www.haciaith.com & http://hedyn.net/wici/Hacio'r_Iaith_-_Ionawr_2011 <brobostigon> how can ihelp. <ianto> Well we're trying to make an Ubuntu presentation for Linux usage and a bit on translation <ianto> I'm clueless atm on where to start <brobostigon> ianto: at what audience is this aimed at? <ianto> A technological audience, used to blogging and Apple technology but not too familiar with Linux <markjones> ianto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations <brobostigon> ianto: familier with apple. ok, i would suggest, starting with the basis of unix, and darwin the basis of mac os x, and both being open source and in basis being the same philosophy and being devloped in by open srouse methods. <brobostigon> source* <brobostigon> ianto: also many parts of software within mac os x are floss, like cups, for example. <ianto> Thanks for the ideas <brobostigon> ianto: because thats making a connection between what they already know, and then what you are introducing them too. <markjones> if I understood portuguese I'd use AndreGodin's presentations :P <brobostigon> markjones: i can think of a couple of people you canget hold of, of how to design one, but not help with content. <ianto> The ones up already have pretty good backgrounds to use with OO.org <brobostigon> ok. <ianto> Very Ubuntu themed ;) <brobostigon> but iwould be original, i dont really personally like the idea of copying. <markjones> i like http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/talks/Ubuntu%20in%2050%20minutes.odp <markjones> it's a bit technical, but we can extract bits <brobostigon> let me look, <brobostigon> :( ididnt have openoffice installed, only the debian standerd,abiword. <markjones> oops <brobostigon> yeah. <markjones> installed it now? <brobostigon> 268mb just to install openoffice.org-writer :( <brobostigon> not yet, <brobostigon> maybe excessive, <brobostigon> i was hoping google docs could deal with it, <brobostigon> markjones: itshouldnt be that big shouild it? <markjones> brobostigon, LibreOffice? No <brobostigon> markjones: icant intterrupt apt, i will checkwhnits donw. <markjones> installed it now? <markjones> oopw <markjones> ianto, fallen asleep? <ianto> markjones: Na <markjones> ok, that has happened before now... <brobostigon> markjones: its taking ages, sorry, <markjones> brobostigon, no problems <brobostigon> markjones: how much time have we got, can i get back to this with you and ianto tmrw,once i have looked at that document. <markjones> brobostigon, we have until Saturday <brobostigon> markjones: let me see what i can do tonight then, <markjones> ok, I'm watching Top Gear at the moment <brobostigon> ok, apt is killing openoffice and replacving it with libreoffice from debian experimental. <markjones> brobostigon: https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0ASuIGA3SepQMZGRtdno2ODJfOTFzMzI5Z3FjNg&hl=en_GB&authkey=CKOopvAH <markjones> should help <brobostigon> thank you. <brobostigon> and bits of that need tobe updated, like openoffice. <markjones> updated, and bits removed <brobostigon> ok. <markjones> as we need to mention our LoCo and Translation Teams <brobostigon> yes. <brobostigon> markjones: thats a good basis, but as you said, maybe too technical in parts, unlesstheey are truly that interested. <markjones> yup <brobostigon> debian also needs a mention really, as itsabout ubuntu, <markjones> it's got a mention :P <brobostigon> however, againthat might be too technical or the audience, <brobostigon> for the* <markjones> yeah <brobostigon> soits needs tobe said, ubuntu'srelationship atleastsimply to debian. <markjones> well, describe how Ubuntu is similar to OSX <markjones> without the cost <brobostigon> linuxhotel.de :) <brobostigon> floss basis, unix-like, darwin(bsd) <brobostigon> linux(unix-like= <brobostigon> markjones: thts the direction iwould go, if thats right or not, is another question. <brobostigon> and the basis floss philosophy applies in both. <brobostigon> FSF , oh, maybe not. <brobostigon> markjones: also why is opera in there? <brobostigon> slide 20. <ianto> Opera? <brobostigon> https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0ASuIGA3SepQMZGRtdno2ODJfOTFzMzI5Z3FjNg&hl=en_GB&authkey=CKOopvAH <brobostigon> slide 19. <markjones> *shrug* <ianto> markjones: On the topic of Hacio'r Iaith, you know anything about the Android translation process? <markjones> nope <ianto> I can't find out any information anywhere <markjones> there's nowt <brobostigon> idont know anything either, <ianto> Then how is there a French version? :'( <ianto> Btw we are able to translate Chrome/Chromium to Welsh through Launchpad if we register a Launchpad team to translate with <ianto> Not just an Ubuntu translation team <brobostigon> hmm, <markjones> I'd do that <ianto> I've done it <ianto> waiting for response <ianto> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/141861 <markjones> ooh <brobostigon> me tired. <brobostigon> nos da. <markjones> nos da brobostigon <brobostigon> nos da markjones #ubuntu-cym 2011-01-24 <TonyBurn> good morning <TonyBurn> good afternoon <brobostigon> afternoonings all. <TonyBurn> lo <brobostigon> afternoonings TonyBurn <TonyBurn> whats happening? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: umm, not much, tobe honest. <TonyBurn> fair enough <brobostigon> TonyBurn: only was, i got rid of the native gmail app inandroid 2.3, and replaced it with k9. <brobostigon> (ilike that name, k9) <TonyBurn> the film was a bit crap i believe <TonyBurn> what android phone you got? <TonyBurn> i had a play on angrybirds on my mrs htc desire last night, it was quite good <TonyBurn> i thought it would be terrible compared to iphone version <brobostigon> TonyBurn: htc dream. <TonyBurn> think that is a little earlier then desire isn't it? <TonyBurn> i'd like a play with the galaxy s tbh <brobostigon> TonyBurn: the htc dream, was the very first android dev phone. <TonyBurn> looking forward to honeycomb <TonyBurn> it might inspire to find a reason to own a tablet <brobostigon> it will be interesting, to see the gui. <markjones> hiya brobostigon, ianto and TonyBurn <ianto> Hi <brobostigon> afternoonings markjones and ianto <markjones> i've still got to Work on the presentation <brobostigon> markjones: i have got a feeling i am going to have strees over here tonight, so i maynot beable to help much. <markjones> that's fine brobostigon <brobostigon> sorry, <markjones> don't be, I get stressed too :) <brobostigon> :) <ianto> markjones: I recommend that you sign up to "watch" the 2011 page on the Wiki <ianto> Imma go sleep for now, brb later <TonyBurn> sleep?!? <markjones> he's a student <TonyBurn> ahh, i remember those days <TonyBurn> i bought my work laptop home with me cos i was finshing something and i'm still using it for some reason, hateful thing, i cant go back to using anything after my mac <TonyBurn> standard trackpads are utter, utter gash <brobostigon> multi-finger scrolling i do like,on some trackpads. <brobostigon> and debian lets me do that, onmy eeepc. <TonyBurn> i liked multitouch soo much i even bought a magic trackpad <TonyBurn> i think thats what they were called? <brobostigon> :) <TonyBurn> the external apple trackpad thing <brobostigon> i think the one in my eeepc is a synaptics. <TonyBurn> criminal price @ 60 quid but meh <brobostigon> ouch <TonyBurn> typical apple markup <brobostigon> agreed. <markjones> yup, I could be working for Apple <TonyBurn> yea? <markjones> got to find the nerve to write a covering letter <TonyBurn> XD <brobostigon> iwould want to do some dev on darwin, otherwise i wouldnt be interested, <TonyBurn> so still at application stage? <markjones> yup <TonyBurn> i aplied for a job at ebay today <TonyBurn> 1 at google last week <TonyBurn> and got an interview in the bag for nokia <brobostigon> :( <TonyBurn> loathe jobhunting <brobostigon> last i applied for was at sirius <TonyBurn> the jobs i'm applying for are all based in germany since i'm intending to move there <TonyBurn> asap <brobostigon> ah. <brobostigon> TonyBurn: i spent most of my teenage years ingermany, while my dad was working in germany. <TonyBurn> cool, my mrs is german and wants to move back to germant to be closer with her family <brobostigon> :) <brobostigon> good luck. <TonyBurn> i've grown to despise my job and would like a bit more of a career path <TonyBurn> ta <brobostigon> TonyBurn: you could apply to suse aswell, <TonyBurn> yea, might check their site, always wanted to be spat out by attachmate XD <TonyBurn> suse have 2 jobs in all of their germany offices :/ <brobostigon> hmm. <TonyBurn> oh, found another 2 if i go back to 3 months of openings <TonyBurn> Software Engineer - Architecture Maintenance <TonyBurn> i could even do that one <TonyBurn> name is a bit misleading, desciption is full on datacentre operations tbh <TonyBurn> so brobostigon, are you proficient in C? <brobostigon> c++, just been relearning it. <TonyBurn> similar boat to me maybe then? <TonyBurn> spent most my time doing java/c# <TonyBurn> now i want to go back to C and C++ <brobostigon> i would rather spend my time doing systems design and manegement. <TonyBurn> looking for a project to contribute to and really struggling tbh <brobostigon> TonyBurn: haiku-os.org :), something i have beentesting for a while, a floss version of aclosed systemcalled beos i used to use inthe 90's. <TonyBurn> was thinking about something a little less obscure XD <TonyBurn> no offence <TonyBurn> whats the main appllication of haiku? <TonyBurn> lightweight computing? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: as a desktop OS. <brobostigon> and with proper smpsupport, and real multi-tasking and multi-threading. <TonyBurn> looking at the homepage now.. <brobostigon> its really interesting, and is looking so good. and developement is moving so quickly. <TonyBurn> http://www.haiku-os.org/development/learning_to_program_with_haiku <TonyBurn> nicely written guide there <brobostigon> very. some very clever people work on the haiku project, <TonyBurn> i'm interested, just like something a little more linux oriented though <TonyBurn> i'll use the guides though ta :) <TonyBurn> and deffo run it on a vm out of curiosty <brobostigon> TonyBurn: maybe contribute to parts of ubuntu or debian. <brobostigon> TonyBurn: runs best in qemu in my experience. <TonyBurn> yea, was looking at enlightenment the other day as i used to follow that but the project doesn't seem to be going anywhere imo <brobostigon> iwould agree. <TonyBurn> meego is worth a look <TonyBurn> either that or do some gui concepts for ubuntu <TonyBurn> had a killer idea the other night <brobostigon> TonyBurn: gnome-shell/gnome3 ? <brobostigon> TonyBurn: whatwa sit? <TonyBurn> in my mission to rid any wasted vertical pixels on open windows <brobostigon> yes ? <TonyBurn> sort the max/min/close buttons out either integrated into the app window (diffuclt/not possible), or make them mega small only a few px high and then zoom bigger with the mouse hovered over them <TonyBurn> in the same way a dock zooms icons when hovered <brobostigon> interesting. <TonyBurn> wasted vertical pixels are a pet hate of mine <TonyBurn> and window borders <TonyBurn> the other idea i had was for layering windows on the desktop in the same way as you could text/graphics on a desktop publishing package <TonyBurn> ie bring forward, bring to front etc <brobostigon> interesting also. <TonyBurn> the 'always on top' option is still available and faar too dated <TonyBurn> ie, i use iplayer, i might want to see it in the popout window <TonyBurn> i'd want this to hover above a console or something, but dont want all browser windows always on top <TonyBurn> there'd have to be a better way of layering the windows than a DTP package offers though <TonyBurn> and a tiling wm isn't the answer for me as i dont have enough desktop space on a laptop to have every window allocated its exclusive space <TonyBurn> haiku installing.. <brobostigon> how are you installing? <TonyBurn> into virtualbox <brobostigon> you just need to run the vm image, no need to do any installing. <TonyBurn> oh i thought i'd download the iso, assuming the image has virtual driver compiled? <brobostigon> i dont know anything about virtualbox, so no idea. <markjones> ohai ianto <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well. * markjones changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org | Calendar: http://bit.ly/cSsnOp | Facebook: http://bit.ly/b7LiNM | Members: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/Members | Forum: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org <ianto> Finally removed the xmas bit? ;) <markjones> yup * ianto changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org | Calendar: http://bit.ly/cSsnOp | Facebook: http://bit.ly/b7LiNM | Members: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/Members | Forum: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org | Hacio'r Iaith http://stwnsh.com/23h & http://stwnsh.com/1zf * ianto changed the topic of #ubuntu-cym to: Welcome to Ubuntu Cymru | Website: http://ubuntu-cym.org |
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