#ubuntu-uds-community-1 2014-06-10 * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html <belkinsa> Hey dholbach. <dholbach> hey belkinsa <belkinsa> See? <phillw> belkinsa: hmm, odd... <belkinsa> I know <belkinsa> #ubuntu-uds-plenary is for the keynote in less than a minute <s-lion> o/ <belkinsa> o/ <belkinsa> Going to co-host with phillw? <phillw> I've asked s-lion to do comms and marketing :) <belkinsa> Okay. <belkinsa> Make sure you invite him to the Hangout on Air. <phillw> s-lion: PM me which email account you want inviting by. <belkinsa> You can grab the link that you get on the Hangout when you enter in one <s-lion> phillw that silverlions mail ;) <belkinsa> phillw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions <phillw> belkinsa: okies, 1st time hosting one :) <belkinsa> You think you to set it (Hangout on Air) now and give me the link? <phillw> belkinsa: am I to use my email addy for this? <belkinsa> You need a Google account (Gmail) to use YouTube and Hangouts <belkinsa> I can set it up for you. <phillw> I have gmail, but I think it would be safer if you do it :D <belkinsa> Okay, on it <belkinsa> Give me a minute <phillw> np <belkinsa> Bear with me <phillw> belkinsa: I can create hangouts with my vpolink account, but have never done so. <belkinsa> Almost done <belkinsa> Guest92020, JONO! Hey! <belkinsa> phillw, https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c7c56ao543e1fmtk3j30b69vd00 <phillw> ta <belkinsa> phillw, and s-lion https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYehuSUkRFsyFhsfzR9glBq9QY3QRAvUJrRb22wiMfZcPwaJcA?authuser=0&hl=en <Guest92020> belkinsa, :-) <belkinsa> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22284/introduction-to-lubuntu/ <dholbach> belkinsa, thanks a bunch for kicking this one off! <dholbach> I'll join in a bit <belkinsa> Not a problem. <belkinsa> Alright, it's more of a two person thing but I think people can ask questions via IRC <dholbach> ah, so it's a demo/presentation? <dholbach> not a discussion session? <belkinsa> dholbach, does the page (http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22284/introduction-to-lubuntu/) look right <belkinsa> dholbach, yup <belkinsa> Not a discussion <dholbach> ah ok... I thought we used the Users track for this? <dholbach> but maybe I misunderstood it <dholbach> nevermind :) <belkinsa> I might of too. * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Introduction to Lubuntu | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22284/introduction-to-lubuntu/ <belkinsa> phillw, do you want to do the QUESTIOn stsyem for questions? <phillw> belkinsa: can do, I'm easy on it. <belkinsa> Okay, I can help on that. <dholbach> in the "hangout url" field you could have put the https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYehuSUkRFsyFhsfzR9glBq9QY3QRAvUJrRb22wiMfZcPwaJcA?authuser=0&hl=en URL, but that's not strictly necessary <belkinsa> Also you really have 55 minutes on this session <dholbach> belkinsa, so yeah.. looking good <belkinsa> dholbach, thanks. I do that next time when it's a roundtable session. <dholbach> rock and roll! :) <belkinsa> dicussion = roundtable <belkinsa> We have 9 minutes to get ready, right? <lobeto> hi everyone <belkinsa> o. lobeto <belkinsa> o/* <phillw> I'm as ready as I'll be :) <lobeto> o/" <belkinsa> brb <belkinsa> back <belkinsa> phillw, is your telly on? <phillw> yes, just watching the end of a show... :) <phillw> it will be off now :) <belkinsa> Ah <belkinsa> Just checking <belkinsa> T minus 3 <belkinsa> I will be keeping the Hangout going, just ignore me. ;) <phillw> If my video cuts off, it is because of over heating. <belkinsa> Okay <phillw> But I will also announce that at the start of the hangout. <belkinsa> Just give a heads up on the stream starts <belkinsa> Good <belkinsa> Its' LIVE! <belkinsa> LIVE now <PabloRubianes> good luck guys <dholbach> it says "please stand by" over here <dholbach> is it live for anyone else? <dholbach> now it's live! <dholbach> great :) <belkinsa> I see you guys! <lobeto> yep <belkinsa> Keep in mind that there is a lag between video and the Hangout itself <belkinsa> Use QUESTION for questions to phillw and s-lion. * balloons waves :-) <belkinsa> balloons, o/ <s-lion> hey everybody <s-lion> Lubuntu Comms present ;) <belkinsa> Ignore the person with the no avatar and is muted, I'm just keeping the Hangout going. <belkinsa> Thumbs up, phillw. :) <belkinsa> And s-lion. <belkinsa> Keep it up. <belkinsa> QUESTION: Do you have the links to the social media and your Lubuntu Comms team? <belkinsa> You can paste them here in IRC. <s-lion> hang on ;) <s-lion> facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ <belkinsa> I would suggest that you can some sort of Q&A session after, if you have time. <s-lion> belkinsa: i'd be happy to answer any questions that may arise <belkinsa> Okay, make sure you also do it on the Hangout too when you get the time. <s-lion> our mascot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Lenny <s-lion> our twitter account: https://twitter.com/lubuntuofficial <s-lion> our G+ community https://plus.google.com/communities/102737741860934586009 <belkinsa> s-lion, could you make a quick slide with the links and screen cast it after phillw is done? <s-lion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams#Communications_Team <s-lion> belkinsa: on it <belkinsa> Thanks. * belkinsa so forgot the pad... <lolguy> QUESTION: will Lubuntu support mir in future? <belkinsa> Link to the pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-introduction-to-lubuntu <phillw> lolguy: I understand not. <belkinsa> QUESTION: Would Mir be too heavy for Lubuntu? <dshimer> QUESTION: Is it possible in 14.04 or easier than it was before to install on non-pae computers? <lolguy> QUESTION: are there plans to bring QT5 to lubuntu? <phillw> dshimer: yes <s-lion> id be ready to take over to answer the questions about the links <dshimer> QUESTION: Does LXQT play into the future of Lubuntu at all? <phillw> dshimer: At present the non-pae iso refuses to install, this is being looked into. Please use the OBI installer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OBI or the 9w installer at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w <belkinsa> brb <belkinsa> back <s-lion> wb <belkinsa> Thanks. <phillw> QT5 is to be used for lubuntu 15.04 <belkinsa> mhall119, are we are allowed to end a session early? <lolguy> QUESTION: will there be any compatibility issues after the switch to LxQT? <s-lion> lolguy you have to install the meta package which is going to break a lot currently due to not being ready ;) <phillw> s-lion: any extra links you want on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22284/introduction-to-lubuntu/ ? <belkinsa> Sorry for that, my internet died on me <belkinsa> Any more questions? <belkinsa> Agreed. <phillw> belkinsa: can you finish the session, thanks. <belkinsa> Not a problem and thank you for the your time for this <belkinsa> And done <belkinsa> Break time and lunch time! <belkinsa> I will back in 15 minutes <phillw> I'll have to bear in mind just how faster you get through stuff when talking instead of typing! <mhall119> belkinsa: of course, whenever you've run out of things to talk about and questions to answer you can end it <phillw> mhall119: thanks... much faster getting through things than an IRC based classroom :D <belkinsa> mhall119, I figured that you will say yes and I just had to check. <mhall119> belkinsa: when in doubt, do what you think is right :) * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Ubuntu Women Utopic Goals | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22231/community-1406-ubuntu-women/ <dholbach> belkinsa, will you run the women's team session as well? <belkinsa> pleia2 is, dholbach <dholbach> awesome! thanks <pleia2> I don't know how though :) <belkinsa> [13:53] <pleia2> reminder, summit session starting in 10 minutes over in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 and at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22231/community-1406-ubuntu-women/ (for video) <dholbach> ok... if you want, I can kick it off <pleia2> whatever we need to do for the video to end up on the right youtube account <dholbach> ah... just kick off a hangout on air, call it "Ubuntu Women Utopic Goals", once it's up, add the URL to "broadcast url" on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/hangout/22231/community-1406-ubuntu-women/ <belkinsa> dholbach, are you hosting it? <dholbach> and add the broadcast url (find the link on the link icon at the bottom right of the window) as well, save and you should be ready to go <dholbach> pleia2, ^ <pleia2> ok, so it'll be attached to my youtube account? <dholbach> belkinsa, but if you want me to do it, I'm happy to do that as well - just let me knoe <dholbach> yes, I think so <belkinsa> pleia2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions <belkinsa> Okay, but first let's see if pleia2 can do it <pleia2> belkinsa: yeah, I know how to do hangouts on air, just typically the sessions didn't land on personal youtube accounts, so I didn't know if there was a way around that :) <belkinsa> Oh, that, duh. <pleia2> I don't mind, my youtube account is active and I've hosted other ubuntu things there, just wanted to make sure I was doing it right <dholbach> belkinsa, sure sure, I don't mean to barge in - I just wanted to make sure somebody kicked it off <belkinsa> No, you didn't barge in. ;) Checking is the right thing to do. <belkinsa> pleia2, got it? I have one ready to <belkinsa> DOne <belkinsa> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeL1Vn-8CaEcKRisNq0RL5fB90ptqW09X0TuTmJKVvX9IdXhg?authuser=0&hl=en <belkinsa> To join <pleia2> belkinsa: eek, I already have one going, was just updating summit <belkinsa> Oh, sorry. <belkinsa> You can change it <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/events/cra4njvp9p1vmvkdc8kp99miuqc <pleia2> can people join that? <pleia2> should be showing up at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22231/community-1406-ubuntu-women/ <dolasilla> I cn see you <belkinsa> Yes, but join <pleia2> belkinsa: are you able to join? <belkinsa> Can't <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfjQgQMNBw5uLxc0z13ps_1tRDTaBVN_5IwtHHT5P07G8PIqg?authuser=1&hl=en this url better? <belkinsa> Yes <belkinsa> One minite <pleia2> anyone else planning on joining? <belkinsa> dolasilla, dholbach? <belkinsa> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfjQgQMNBw5uLxc0z13ps_1tRDTaBVN_5IwtHHT5P07G8PIqg?authuser=1&hl=en <dolasilla> I was more planning to follow from outside and interact via chat :D <belkinsa> Alright <pleia2> ok :) <dholbach> I'm not sure I'm going to be a huge help, but I can join if you think that helps :) <pleia2> etherpad, if someone could take notes: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-1406-ubuntu-women <pleia2> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1406-ubuntu-women <pleia2> collaboration wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/RoadMap-U <belkinsa> That's help though, dholbach. <belkinsa> Like the last time <dholbach> ok <dolasilla> pleia2, that I can do <belkinsa_web> The link to the hangout is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfjQgQMNBw5uLxc0z13ps_1tRDTaBVN_5IwtHHT5P07G8PIqg?authuser=1&hl=en * philipballew says hello and wonders in to the community room <dolasilla> did we send an email in the list about it? <belkinsa_web> I guess it's not really a quiz. <dolasilla> about testing it, I mean <fdafsdf> QUESTION: what's the most useful thing I could do to help? <fdafsdf> Awesome, thank you! <pleia2> http://harvest.ubuntu.com/ <belkinsa_web> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest is the project page <belkinsa_web> We are at the lookinng for developers stage <belkinsa_web> http://blog.ubuntu-women.org/2014/05/phase-2-of-projectharvest/ <dholbach> does anyone want to get involved and join the hangout? <dolasilla> pleia2, dholbach for project harvest indeed, we should define steps <dolasilla> do we have a list of what we could improve, from those who tested it? <dolasilla> belkinsa_web, thanks! :) <belkinsa_web> updated with the feedbacl: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest <pleia2> blueprint from last time: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1311-ubuntu-women <pleia2> nominations email with details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2014-June/004106.html <belkinsa_web> Election: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/LeadershipElectionProcess <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone! <pleia2> all done! <belkinsa> dholbach, told you so, you were helpful. ;) <dholbach> belkinsa: just a little bit :) <belkinsa> Everything is added to the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1406-ubuntu-women <belkinsa> dholbach, do you have a cat? <dholbach> belkinsa, my girlfriend does, yes :) <dholbach> I guess it's my cat now as well :-) <belkinsa> I figured that from the background from your cam. <belkinsa> It seem that all three of us in the Hangout have at least a cat <pleia2> mine were sleeping, so didn't attend :) <belkinsa> One of mine (I have four) had to go out my room and came back in a rubbed my leg during the hangout <lolguy> QUESTION any estimate about the no. of women using ubuntu in the wild? <belkinsa> We are done, lolguy. <belkinsa> But maybe pleia2 can answer that question. <pleia2> we don't even have an estimate of *people* using Ubuntu, let alone women :) anyone can download and use it, so it's really hard to track <pleia2> we focus on getting women involved in the community, and when we were last tracking 5% of ubuntu members were women <lolguy> pleia2: that's interesting to know.. :) * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html #ubuntu-uds-community-1 2014-06-11 * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/11/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Community Roundtable | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22314/community-roundtable/ <belkinsa> dholbach, working on getting the Hangout up? <dholbach> yes <belkinsa> Alright, just checking. <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYezOmrGG6RMkrpKJ5busGYaORG2gr7Kc3FXVGc_kEsrEM1EYA for whoever wants to join <belkinsa> You said that you redoing it, right, dholbach? <dholbach> belkinsa: yep, but you can join as well if you like <dholbach> belkinsa: the hangout is started already <belkinsa> Oh, it's the same one? <dpm> o/ <belkinsa> o/ <belkinsa> It made already. <dholbach> etherpad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-roundtable <philipballew> do we have a link again? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYezOmrGG6RMkrpKJ5busGYaORG2gr7Kc3FXVGc_kEsrEM1EYA <philipballew> belkinsa, yeah, and I was wondering if someone could paste it here <belkinsa_web> Bah, too many people * czajkowski hugs dholbach <czajkowski> soo many dates <czajkowski> why not merge them into one <czajkowski> one busy week of crazyness <czajkowski> and then do them at differnt times of the day so people can join them <czajkowski> even try a saturday <ahayzen> core app hack days \o/ * dholbach hugs czajkowski back :) <czajkowski> I think some people are finding we have so many online events that people cannot find the time to attend them all <czajkowski> and there is a masssive overlapping in them <czajkowski> I think doing it over the weekend would help mhall119 <czajkowski> meeting people half way would help a lot to increaase particpation <belkinsa_web> Yeah, we have three zones, Europe, Asia, and the Americas <czajkowski> what about looking at doing the same session <czajkowski> twice aday <czajkowski> a day at differnet times? <czajkowski> so you get the community attending at a time that suits <czajkowski> but as dpm points out it is down to the driver of the meeting <czajkowski> it may not always be so easy <belkinsa_web> Twice a day could work or have a full day of doing it, 24 hours for different people. <czajkowski> dpm: indeed I don't think it would work for all sessions but be nice to vary it a little. <dpm> yeah <dholbach> do we have any other subjects which should be discussed during the roundtable as well? <belkinsa_web> So, panels wouldn't work for people? <czajkowski> popey: indeed for presentations it's not needed <czajkowski> dholbach: not sure if this has been brought up already, but can we set in stone the dates now for the next online UDS? <czajkowski> so people know in advance I know this was raised a while back <belkinsa_web> Agreed, we need maybe a month in advance of a motice. <dholbach> czajkowski, sure... we can pick one, discuss it here, propose it to release team (and others), then announce <belkinsa_web> notiice* <czajkowski> dholbach: bingo <dholbach> the last time we did it this way <dholbach> and I think that worked well <czajkowski> oh you should do the 24hr madness again <czajkowski> if only to see how crazy you go <mhall119> no <mhall119> no, no no <czajkowski> ah go on <belkinsa_web> Maybe research some communities and see what they do for these type of things? <czajkowski> just because the event goes on longer doesnt mean we need to fill every hour. can leave like a lunch time gap/nap time and break up the day <PabloRubianes> people are working!, we need this sessions on weekends! <czajkowski> which will be hard <czajkowski> for Emea for holidays as well <czajkowski> so people take a lot of time off as well <belkinsa_web> Alining them? <belkinsa_web> Yeah, I agree. I have classes during that time of the UOS's. <mhall119> czajkowski: are you able to join the hangout? <czajkowski> mhall119: in set up for my event :) <czajkowski> mutlitasking sorry :/ <dholbach> PabloRubianes, which session would you like to see on weekends? things like demo sessions? <dholbach> or presentations? <PabloRubianes> dholbach: at least the community session <PabloRubianes> maybe some week days and a saturday <PabloRubianes> not all in the weekend but one day that people don't work <PabloRubianes> like the bug jams <belkinsa_web> PabloRubianes: I like that thought <PabloRubianes> I am having an awful connection so I am not watching the hangout <PabloRubianes> :( <belkinsa_web> I'm in the Hangout and my computer is not handling it well <mhall119> hangouts like to turn my CPU into a furnace <dholbach> belkinsa_web, it's getting too hot? <dholbach> PabloRubianes, bah :-/ <belkinsa_web> Funny, no. But too many people in one just lags my computer <PabloRubianes> dholbach: yeah <belkinsa_web> User days were <belkinsa_web> on weekends <PabloRubianes> also taking from the LoCo council perspective, we give a session on this summit for the time availability, <PabloRubianes> we did not* <belkinsa_web> Maybe we could have a LoCo UOS on the weekend of the UOS week? <czajkowski> community folks give up their weekends to work on Ubuntu <belkinsa_web> czajkowski: Indeed. <PabloRubianes> belkinsa_web: we had a plan to have a similar idea, but we need to plan it right <czajkowski> so I don;t think it's completely unreasonable to give up one day over a weekend by Ubuntu enginners to work on Ubuntu once a cycle <cheesehead> If doing four summits a year, should try one on a weekend. <dpm> czajkowski, engineers also need life back on the weekend, we've got people working 12 hours a day during the week too <belkinsa_web> I think we need to plan now and be ready for the next one a month before it <czajkowski> dpm: I do agree, but you could and I would argue community people give up their days adn evenings they too would like a life also at the weekend or the evneings when they give it up for bug jams <cheesehead> dpm, I don't think anyone is proposing weekend work _in addition_ to weekday duties. When my employees need to time-shift duties, I make it possible. <dpm> well, I've been (and I am :) on both sides, and that would mean engineers have an obligation to work both during the week and weekends * belkinsa_web really wants a new powerful computer ;/ <PabloRubianes> dpm: I am not taking about enginners, am talking about community session <dpm> PabloRubianes, yeah, I understand, I was replying to Laura <belkinsa_web> We need to focus on the community folks too. <Murazaki> He's Michael Hall's room taking flight ? ^^' Is it a lighted fan ? <belkinsa_web> Maybe the classroom team could get some track/session ideas on the UOS and have them on Hangouts on Air. <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule <balloons> Murazaki, you guessed it <mhall119> Murazaki: just a fan, looks better on video than in real live <dholbach> belkinsa_web, sure <belkinsa_web> Work item? <dholbach> belkinsa_web, sorry, I meant to say that the classroom would surely have some ideas :) <belkinsa_web> Yeah <belkinsa_web> How would a testing session work? Just wondering. <balloons> belkinsa_web, what do you mean a testing session? <mhall119> belkinsa_web: running through checkbox and such <mhall119> or generally using the dev release and reporting bugs <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing <belkinsa_web> I need to think on what I just asked <dholbach> do we have any other subjects to discuss in this community roundtable? <belkinsa_web> Maybe packing into big events might be a good idea (with UOS). <czajkowski> July tends to be conference season <czajkowski> Oscon <belkinsa_web> Or have UOS styled events. <balloons> yea.. summer in general isn't a good time, heh <czajkowski> balloons: it really isn't <cheesehead> No time will be great every three months. There will always be interference and conflicts. But not everybody needs to show up at every event. <czajkowski> july 20-24 <belkinsa_web> Maybe we need to see how many folks are attending the UGJ by poll or something. <dholbach> belkinsa_web, ask by poll to see if we don't overlap with another conference? <dholbach> belkinsa_web, or in general to see how many attend global jam events? <belkinsa_web> dholbach: The latter might work the best. <dholbach> we sort of do that with loco.u.c <belkinsa_web> That works, mhall119 <dholbach> last time: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2656/ <dpm> anyone on IRC running Ubuntu Hours events? <popey> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2662/ <dholbach> do we have any other topics apart from "events in this cycle" we want to discuss? <belkinsa_web> I like that idea, the weekly cimmunity hour on Hangouts on Air <belkinsa_web> Try for another track today or tomorrow? <belkinsa_web> Maybe we can have both suvery and Hangout? <dholbach> belkinsa_web, the survey is going to happen in any case <dholbach> belkinsa_web, which hangout would you like to do? <belkinsa_web> Hangout on Air after the UOS to talk about what needs to work on and that tsuff. <belkinsa_web> stuff* <belkinsa_web> I think with the ones who gone to Community and Users tracks. <belkinsa_web> Thanks for the session. <dholbach> thank you :) <sil2100> o/ <sil2100> dholbach: will you start the HO for the next session? <dholbach> yep <dholbach> on it * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Users | From fix to image: how your patch makes it into Ubuntu | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22263/how-code-contributions-make-it-into-ubuntu/ <xnox> \o/ <dholbach> sil2100, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdbntNZ9rVjC1nliza-Y-O9uhGvpwU6IdYLpvVb5FjkTdzt5A <xnox> Going live in 5... <xnox> 4... <xnox> 3... <xnox> 2... <xnox> 1... <xnox> =) <xnox> previous session slides are: <xnox> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10SbMhkHuTpgVEncv8Fp_A8is0stDKwuMiCAYEFNiw40/edit?usp=sharing <xnox> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ <dholbach> please keep your questions coming! :) <dholbach> do we have questions for Åukasz? <mwenning> is there a link for basic lander training? <mwenning> QUESTION: is there a link / doc for basic lander training? <xnox> mwenning: i'll ask that to sil2100 right after current question. <dholbach> any more questions? :) <sil2100> Thank you o/ <sil2100> Oh, an now my firefox crashed even, yay <mwenning> thanks, good stuff <dholbach> yeah, I'm super happy with all the great work you and others put into getting the landings right * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/11/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html <dholbach> who's kicking off the documentation team hangout? belkinsa, pleia2 maybe? if not, I could do it as well <belkinsa> I am doing it <belkinsa> On it <belkinsa> I know that someone is kicking off the Kubuntu one <belkinsa> Almost ready <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en <belkinsa> To join ^^ <dholbach> belkinsa, brilliant, thanks <belkinsa> The roundtable will start in less than 20 minutes in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 and the Hangout link is (to join): https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en <belkinsa> The roundtable will start in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 and the Hangout link is (to join): https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Ubuntu Documentation Team Roundtable June 2014 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22234/community-1406-ubuntu-documentation-team/ * belkinsa waits <belkinsa> The roundtable will start in less than 10 minutes in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 and the Hangout link is (to join): https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en <belkinsa> dholbach, are you free for this session? <belkinsa> The roundtable will start in less than 5 minutes in #ubuntu-uds-community-1 and the Hangout link is (to join): https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en <belkinsa> Who is here for the round table? <belkinsa> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw?authuser=0&hl=en to join <knome> <- kind of <belkinsa> IRC or Hangout, knome? <knome> just irc, and even that a bit on/off <belkinsa_web> Okay. <knome> just ping me if you need me to answer or give an opinion on something <belkinsa_web> Okay, but I think you are only one here <knome> well, that's ok <knome> i mean, for me <knome> i'll have the hangout open <knome> or the stream tbe <knome> i can try to catch if you ask me something there ;) <belkinsa_web> The link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JmBVSRVIWY4 <knome> yeah, i have it open <belkinsa_web> pmatulis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JmBVSRVIWY4 <belkinsa_web> Pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-1406-ubuntu-documentation-team <dholbach> belkinsa_web, yes, I can attend <belkinsa_web> Alright, just checking <knome> yay for dholbach on the camera <raub> Are the nickname and pw the ones used for launchpad? <belkinsa_web> raub: you can use any, but the LP one be better <raub> Or I can just type here? <belkinsa_web> You can. <dholbach> is anyone else joining in? <dholbach> joining the hangout I mean <belkinsa_web> Or join the hangout if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JmBVSRVIWY4 <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw <belkinsa_web> dholbach has the right link <dholbach> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-1406-ubuntu-documentation-team is the pad <raub> I will then type here since I am at work <belkinsa_web> Okay <pmatulis> belkinsa_web: you can talk about the poll idea <dholbach> is nobody of the docs team joining the hangout? <raub> I am trying, but the data squirrels are slow today <belkinsa_web> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2014-June/018962.html <pmatulis> how do i join the hangout? <belkinsa_web> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2014-May/018920.html <belkinsa_web> pmatulis: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw <mhall119> pmatulis: there should be a link just above the video <raub> pmatulis: the plus.hangout link dholbach put up <raub> ^^^^ <raub> I type slowly <raub> Though I am still waiting for the hangout to let me in :( <belkinsa_web> Fixed that link <mhall119> are we having technical difficulty? <belkinsa_web> It's fixed <raub> I am. Can't join the hangout <belkinsa_web> The hangout link was wrong <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw is the link <raub> I am still in a "Please Wait..." screen in the hangout <knome> xubuntu uses docbook to write the docs, we can export the same stuff to web <knome> so the docs are available in both places <knome> making it web only is a restriction as well <belkinsa_web> Agreed, we needboth forms <knome> though i understand the pros of not being tied to (release) schedules <raub> Risking sounding like certain companies that steal their customer's souls, would it be possible to record how often a given machine access the docs? <raub> So we can have actual data <mhall119> raub: local docs? <raub> yeah <mhall119> I don't think that would be possible/acceptable <mhall119> we could maybe use popcon to see how many have installed the docs packages, if (a) they are separate -doc packages and (b) they aren't isntalled by default or as a recommends <knome> mhall119, that's not the number we want; all regular xubuntu installations *have* the docs <knome> we'd like to know how many actually *use* them <mhall119> right, so we'd have record and report file access.....that won't be popular <knome> yeah, not really <raub> I wonder how to get data without being google <mhall119> take it away and count how many people complain :) <knome> mhall119, how do the people who have no internet access and need the offline docs complain? ;) <knome> also, vocal minority <raub> pmatulis: Where would we find the average desktop user so we can put the poll there? <mhall119> yeah, no good way to get this info <knome> you could keep the same infra, and have packaged docs, and online (web) docs <knome> the packaged docs could point to the "updated" online docs <knome> which could be updated regardless of where you are in the release schedule <dholbach> could you guys join the hangout as well? :) <mhall119> couldn't we also SRU new docs after release? <belkinsa_web> Link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfs-LezOGpwYbtjHH5WGSrWEWJlDz0_qvciVDrRmseAly4gtw <knome> dholbach, can't right now, i'm afraid <dholbach> maybe try different browsers if your current doesn't work <dholbach> knome, ok <knome> mhall119, yeah, that too <knome> mhall119, but peter's main argument seems to be "the bureaucracy slows down our progress" <raub> What if the in-computer docs will have enough useful info to get the basics running, including getting online? Then the online docs would be more abridged <raub> er, UNabridged <knome> yep, happening, and we will land an SRU for xubuntu 14.04.x <raub> i.e. more crap <dholbach> I was just looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html <raub> I do agree that too much bureaucracy does slow things down <knome> ubuntu community help <knome> dholbach, help.ubuntu.com/community <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-docs/utopic I guess <raub> mhall119: I think there should be enough docs in the desktop to get it up and running and connected to the net <knome> pmatulis, you can keep on working on the documentation after the freezes, and put the latest revisions online <knome> yeah, the release team should be relatively liberal on updating docs after freezes.. <belkinsa_web> We still have no driver for Desktop <knome> i think the only reason why freezes happen as soon as they do now is that there needs to be some time to handle the uploads <knome> dholbach, ^ <raub> Are there any people from the desktop team here? <knome> so if there was a person or two who could commit uploading the docs later, the freezes could happen later easily <knome> dholbach, i agree. but that's what the doc team wiki says. <dholbach> ok :) <raub> About docs deadline, why not just have one deadline a year? I mean, how much should it change between pickls.04 and pickles.10? <belkinsa_web> We can't, we have cycles that are 6 months long. <raub> belkinsa_web: how much does the releases really change between cycles? <knome> pmatulis, sure, i understand. but what are the late changes you need to do? <belkinsa_web> Good point. <knome> pmatulis, i mean, why weren't they been done earlier? <knome> the rest of the community can (kind of) commit to schedules, why can't documentation? <knome> or why is it so different for documentation? <belkinsa_web> I think we don't have enough man power. <belkinsa_web> As pmatulis says <knome> then the problem is not the bureaucracy or the processes but the amount of contributors. <belkinsa_web> Recruitment issues. <bregma> with an LTS release, it may be possible to defer the final docs until the .01 point release to give more time for revision and translation cycles * raub is guilty of that <knome> would the more appropriate question be how the developers of certain apps/parts of the system can help the documentation team? <bregma> developers make very poor documenters <raub> knome: that would be a good question <dholbach> I'm adding notes right now (http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-1406-ubuntu-documentation-team) <bregma> documentation is an ideal entry point for non-technical contributers, perhaps that should be stressed in the "how can I contribute?" material <bregma> QUESTION: is there a definitive list of "official" documention, who owns it, and how to get involved or contribute to each? <belkinsa_web> Maybve that link can be included on the main page? <belkinsa_web> The main COmmunity Help Wiki page <cheesehead> Is the recruiting problem that nobody wants to help? Or do new helpers get scared/demotivated and drop away? <knome> dholbach, re: gunnar, i don't know, i believe he was only going to pick up ubuntu-docs <belkinsa_web> Ali talked about that and we are missing that link <dholbach> knome, in that case, he could probably help with other packages or apply for upload rights for them too, or somebody else should apply <dholbach> it's not overly bureaucratic - either throw up a merge proposal or file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors <knome> dholbach, i think the answer to the question if he'd like to do that was "not really", so yeah, somebody else needs to.. <dholbach> let me know if stuff doesn't get sponsored <knome> dholbach, i understand that and it's not a problem for our team, but i was thinking about the documentation stuff generally <dholbach> to me it doesn't look like the biggest problem in the whole docs process - I'm happy to help with sponsorship as well <pmatulis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam <knome> some packages always seem to be stalling for a reason or another :/ <knome> dholbach, probably not <dholbach> some stuff might stall, yes - I agree and I'm not saying it's perfect <dholbach> let me know if things stall <dholbach> after a few sponsored uploads, some doc member can apply for upload rights themselves then :) <knome> i don't think you need to be a member of any team to do a merge proposal <knome> mhall119, ^ <dholbach> knome, no, you don't <dholbach> ah sorry <dholbach> I misunderstood :) <dholbach> ignore me :) <knome> i can help with upgrading the community help wiki frontpage (to ensure it keeps looking good) <raub> Good because I do not know how to go anymore from the main ubuntu site to the server docs <raub> shame on me! <belkinsa_web> pmatulis: can you post it here too? <pmatulis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuDesktopGuide <dholbach> knome, I noted down an action for you :) <knome> For information on contributing see the Ubuntu Documentation Team wiki page. <knome> help.ubuntu.com says that ^ <ahoneybun> lots of people <raub> Why not have links to the, say, intro to bazaar? <raub> on the main doc page? <raub> or how to use this thing <belkinsa_web> For the Kubuntu Doc team roundtable, who is kicking it off? <raub> If you already know how to use it, don't click th elink <ahoneybun> valorie: want to kick us off? <belkinsa_web> I will be joining too, but not kicking it off. <knome> raub, contributions on improving the team page are welcome <belkinsa_web> But thank you, ahoneybun. <ahoneybun> for belkinsa? <belkinsa_web> Giving me a update. <ahoneybun> oh I'll kick us off if I need to <knome> pmatulis, that makes me think if canonical could help with acolon@example.com. <knome> the documentation team wiki is a bit sloppy <belkinsa_web> Maybe in this cycle, we can clean it up? <ahoneybun> knome: throw me a link to it and I'll look at it <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam <knome> to me it looks like the wiki might overcomplicate some things. <knome> pmatulis, they aren't called documentation any more <knome> pmatulis, it's called community help wiki now <ahoneybun> I mean we don't really work on that as that is the main ubuntu docs team page, but I'll help if I can <belkinsa_web> Yeah, they are just help guides <belkinsa_web> The UF are <belkinsa_web> and AskUbunti <belkinsa_web> Ubuntu* * ahoneybun is confused <raub> knome: point taken <ahoneybun> the kubuntu session has not started right <belkinsa_web> ahoneybun: everyone is googling for the answer <belkinsa_web> Oh, sorry <ahoneybun> 19:00 is 3pm to New york <knome> got to go. thanks belkinsa_web, dholbach for running the meeting <belkinsa_web> Not a problem <belkinsa> ahoneybun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions <belkinsa> Look at this <belkinsa_web> Is the timer off? <belkinsa_web> Its' 54 not 55 * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Kubuntu Documentation Team Roundtable June 2014 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22242/community-1406-kubuntu-documentation-team/ <ahoneybun> https://plus.google.com/events/c2nq9rtu3gubkj4927ulpglm1ps <mhall119> dholbach: I managed to freeze Unity <dholbach> thanks guys! :) <dholbach> mhall119, oopsie <mhall119> thanks everyone * mhall119 goes to reboot * belkinsa_web needs one too <dholbach> is anyone going to run the kubuntu docs meeting? <valorie> ahoneybun: do you need to invite me or something? <valorie> the link you posted only allows me to "watch" <dholbach> valorie, ahoneybun: are you setting up the hangout? :) <ahoneybun> dholbach: I got it set up just need to send links <valorie> ah got it <barsook> What;s the hangout link? <barsook> the one to join? <valorie> https://plus.google.com/events/c2nq9rtu3gubkj4927ulpglm1ps <ahoneybun> do I air it? <valorie> but I think there is another one <ahoneybun> start broadcast? <barsook> What is it again? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/events/c2nq9rtu3gubkj4927ulpglm1ps <valorie> ahoneybun: did you follow the uds/sessions link? <dholbach> button at the bottom <belkinsa_web> Yeah, it's not the one <dholbach> you're live! <SilverLion> ahoneybun: pls DO wear headphones! <belkinsa_web> ahoneybun: it's the one that you get when in the hangout and the sound needs to be fixed <SilverLion> your background noises are terrible :( <belkinsa_web> Headphones please. <ahoneybun> better? <ahoneybun> there is a delay <SilverLion> your ac is killing the sound <ahoneybun> ok turned that off <ahoneybun> how do I invite people to the hangout <dholbach> ahoneybun, just paste the URL in here <ahoneybun> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?authuser=0&hl=en <valorie> oh thank goodness <ahoneybun> valorie: did that work? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a... <belkinsa_web> Yes <shadeslayer> hey ho <belkinsa_web> Hangout link to join: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a... <valorie> yes, that works <ahoneybun> awesome <valorie> thank you belkinsa_web <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: there's usually a delay <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: you made it <shadeslayer> I'm cooking dinner/practicing my violin, I'll pipe in if required <shadeslayer> via IRC <shadeslayer> can't do 3 things at once <SilverLion> how do you folks get these banners with the icons where your names are on? <ahoneybun> SilverLion: hangout tool <ahoneybun> left handside <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: document process on the wiki! :P * ahoneybun is bad at this lol <belkinsa_web> Its' cool, you are learning. <shadeslayer> ^^ <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: apachelogger moved the wiki <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: oh he did? <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: yes, everything is on community.kde.org now <shadeslayer> see ML <belkinsa_web> I think I like how the wiki is on the KDE site. You have the Discussion page/tab. Lucky you. ;) <belkinsa_web> Your LP project page is outdate: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs <s-lion> can someone repost hangout link? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a... <s-lion> thnx <s-lion> you'll get a Lubuntu visitor ;) <belkinsa_web> And a Ubuntu one too <shadeslayer> FYI I've lost the stream <shadeslayer> so best ping me on IRC <belkinsa_web> Is there a Ubuntu Comms team, by any chance. <belkinsa_web> SilverLion just gave me an idea <shadeslayer> and back, and gone <valorie> belkinsa_web: not as such <valorie> but we're trying to get a group together <belkinsa_web> I figured since the Ubuntu Marketing team is dead <ahoneybun> ubuntu comms? <belkinsa_web> Yeah <belkinsa_web> I think Ubuntu needs one too <belkinsa_web> Turn off your mic! <belkinsa_web> I think a Comms teams might be better for this case rather than marketing. <belkinsa_web> Or that. <belkinsa_web> Sounds like a recruiting for the starting point <belkinsa_web> Developers don't docuement anything <belkinsa_web> That's the problem. <sgclark2> I will try to spend some time with documentation between packaging <belkinsa_web> But I think pleia2 is trying to get developers to give updates. <sgclark2> re-inventing the wheel <valorie> hey sgclark2 <sgclark2> hello! <sgclark2> agree <sgclark2> plus another 24 hours in a day <sgclark2> it is a full time job keeping all that up <belkinsa_web> lol <sgclark2> oh? <belkinsa_web> sgclark2:https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a... if you want to join <belkinsa_web> Don't forget the action items! <belkinsa_web> Like https://help.ubuntu.com/ would something like that? <belkinsa_web> Looks clearer. <belkinsa_web> CLeaner* <sgclark2> I can't seem to get the plugin to work <belkinsa_web> What's the problem, sgclark2? <valorie> yes, however, we've had trouble getting themes to be uniformly applied <belkinsa_web> We are all USA folks <ahoneybun> thank you belkinsa_web <belkinsa_web> 3:39 PM here <ahoneybun> belkinsa: same time here <sgclark2> 12:40 pm here <sgclark2> that is what I am packaging <ahoneybun> nice sgclark2 <belkinsa_web> ahoneybun: carefull, Twitter was hacked into today <valorie> oh yes, I saw a tweetdeck exploit <s-lion> lubuntu comms was using tweetdeck ;) <valorie> yikes <valorie> i'm sure it will be fixed soon <s-lion> it definetly will <belkinsa_web> Yeah, I quit Twitter though. <s-lion> belkinsa_web: no need to quit the whole twitter ;) <belkinsa_web> Well, I don't use it anymore. <belkinsa_web> ANd I get my updated via feeds. <s-lion> I'll head out of the hangout now <s-lion> returning to Lubuntu Comms Works ;) <belkinsa_web> Alright. <valorie> nice to see you Harry <belkinsa_web> Thank for coming <ahoneybun> thanks s-lion <s-lion> I'll be around as silverlion though <s-lion> you'll find me in the lubuntu area if needed or belkinsa can make contact ;) <belkinsa_web> Just a wonder, I think Recruiting or comms can work <belkinsa_web> Marketing makes me think of selling it <valorie> exactly <belkinsa_web> Promo could work too <sgclark2> Promoting sounds good to me <belkinsa_web> ahoneybun: you use e-mail client? I do to. <ahoneybun> I really like kmail belkinsa, I only need to use browser email for my steam code <sgclark2> more than one will need to help with social, it is alot of work, I did it for a long time and finally ran off screaming haha <valorie> I agree <belkinsa_web> See ya, computer needs to charge <valorie> & can hardly stand social media these days <ahoneybun> belkinsa: thanks for coming belkinsa <belkinsa_web> Not a problem <belkinsa_web> Glad to help and I think we may have a larger problem in the COmmunity of Ubuntu and it's flavours. <belkinsa_web> If only two teams have a Comms/Promo/Recruiting team. <valorie> what larger problem? <valorie> ah <valorie> well, I'm part of my LoCo <valorie> and do promo there <sgclark2> see you in irc! <ahoneybun> I am too but I can't go to Orlando for the meetings <belkinsa_web> I try to but it's quiet in Ohio * valorie goes afk for awhile..... <ahoneybun> sgclark2: what time are you in >? * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/11/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html <sgclark2> Pacific US <ahoneybun> how do I put for public view? * SilverLion is located in UTC + 2 (CET) :D <SilverLion> I have to go offline for updates ... be back later! <belkinsa> mhall119, do you know which flavours have a Comms/Promo/Recruiting team to help new people to get involved? <mhall119> belkinsa: I don't, no <mhall119> Kubuntu might? <belkinsa> Kubuntu will as I heard. <belkinsa> Alright, I was just wondering. You think Ubuntu needs one? <mhall119> belkinsa: I missed this session, what would such a team do? <belkinsa> It could be used to help new people to get involved. Like a starting point where that person can be lead to the othher teams within that flavour. <knome> belkinsa, that's a hard, and probably in ways a wrong question <knome> belkinsa, xubuntu doesn't have a specific, designed team for that, but we are all pretty open to help anybody with anything they might need <knome> belkinsa, so a bit more organic than how some of the other flavors (ubuntu GNOME, lubuntu) have structured their teams and helping out new people <belkinsa> knome, ah, I see. <belkinsa> Do you use your main flavour mainling list for it? <belkinsa> mailing* <knome> we have a -devel list <knome> but some of us do follow the -users list as well <belkinsa> mhall119, this was suggested to me on the doc team's IRC about your item in the Doc Team's Roundtable: [17:17] <GunnarHj> belkinsa: A link to http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/documentation/ might be what should be on top of help.ubuntu.com #ubuntu-uds-community-1 2014-06-12 * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/community-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23ubuntu-uds-community-1.html <mhall119> belkinsa: thanks, that is a good page to use <belkinsa> mhall119, I think we have figured it out and have placed it on help.ubuntu.com. <mhall119> belkinsa: doing my work items for me? nice! <belkinsa> I guess we have jumped onto it last night after the UOS. I forgot who's item it was. <mhall119> belkinsa: do you have a note document where you're collecting things to mention in the closing plenary today? <belkinsa> I do, in my Evernote but it needs to be cleaned up. <belkinsa> And I know someone to take notes for the App Developer session for me, unless they will be on the Pad. <belkinsa> dpm_, are you kicking off the "App development training programme" session? <dpm_> belkinsa, I think dholbach is <belkinsa> Alright, just checking/wondering. * belkinsa is kicking of the last Community session <dpm_> thanks belkinsa! <belkinsa> Not a problem, it deals with my team. <Luke> Luke314 <belkinsa> o/ dholbach. <dholbach> hey belkinsa <belkinsa> Are you kicking off this session? * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Community Roundtable | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22316/community-roundtable/ <dholbach> belkinsa, yes, can do :) <belkinsa> Alright, just checking/wondering. <belkinsa> Poo, that gives me away. * belkinsa is on three clients for IRC <knome> hahah <belkinsa> But I'm two computers, one for IRC and one for Hangouts <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w for everyone who wants to join in <belkinsa> barsook, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w <dholbach> belkinsa: hum... which hangout did you start? <belkinsa> I didn't <dholbach> ah ok - that was the same link :) <dholbach> I thought it was a different one <belkinsa> I was sending the link to myself <mhall119> popey: are you able to join this one? <popey> no, am joining the core apps weekly mhall119 <popey> added some notes earlier <dholbach> all right... anyone else who wants to join in? <dpm> Session notes: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-community-roundtable <belkinsa_web> Use QUESTION to ask questions. <belkinsa_web> Maybe you could make a graph that shows the numbers over the time, mhall119. <belkinsa_web> (line graph is what I mean) * belkinsa_web likes the idea <belkinsa_web> Maybe through the LoCo portal or yeah, the RSS feed <belkinsa_web> Could a blogging function work for the LoCo portal <GunnarHj> belkinsa_web: Do you please have the direct link to the hangout? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w <belkinsa_web> We also have a team called the Ubuntu Leadership <belkinsa_web> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuleadership <belkinsa_web> Could this team help? <dholbach> belkinsa_web, maybe you should talk about it on the hangout :) <belkinsa_web> Sure, when there is time and when you guys finish your topdic <belkinsa_web> tipic* <belkinsa_web> topic* <belkinsa_web> I froze <belkinsa_web> The Ubuntu Leadership team will have materials to help the leaders within the Community and LoCos to lead and start things. <belkinsa_web> The team was rebooted by me a few weeks ago <mhall119> belkinsa: do you have a link to that material? <belkinsa_web> One sc <belkinsa_web> Wiki <belkinsa_web> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22194/community-1403-growing-a-new-generation-of-ubuntu-leaders/ <mhall119> now I froze :( <dholbach> me too <belkinsa_web> Me too <dholbach> ok, I'll reload the page? <belkinsa_web> Carefull, dholbach on that though <dholbach> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR <belkinsa_web> My fault! <mhall119> dholbach: just start a new one and edit the hangout details in summit <dholbach> I'm back <dholbach> use the link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w <dshimer> yes, live <belkinsa_web> dshimer: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w if you want to join in <GunnarHj> Would the sponsorship queue be a proper topic for this session? <GunnarHj> reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ <belkinsa_web> Yeah, but it could useful. <belkinsa_web> mhall119: that was too you. <mhall119> belkinsa_web: I'll work something up <belkinsa_web> Cool. <GunnarHj> Microphone problem... <GunnarHj> I simply think it has been too long for a few weeks now. <GunnarHj> It's discouraging for community contributors. <Laney> The queue? <GunnarHj> I fear that it leads to less work being done than else would have been the case. <Laney> Send a sponsorgram to ubuntu-devel <GunnarHj> Laney: Yes, the queue. <Laney> I think it'd be good to get people doing sponsoring outside of the (Canonical subset of the) patch pilot scheme <Laney> Not watching the video for this so I don't know if you're talking about it there :) * belkinsa_web checks <belkinsa_web> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-sponsors <dholbach> https://acolon@example.com&gsessionid=OK <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews#Schedule <GunnarHj> I think it sounds good. <belkinsa_web> Are we off air? <popey> is this session still running? <belkinsa_web> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdFP8ilC4LTYD151s-N0cThinboSHqN6g9mp3Ez_F-3pCu65w <GunnarHj> Anything that prevents that an item has to wait several weeks to be attended would be welcome. :) <belkinsa_web> I can get in summary mode. <mhall119> yeah, it kicked us off air and because of the last time it dropped dholbach doesn't have a button to get us back on <belkinsa_web> Sure, I can talk about what we talked in the track summaries. <dpm> ok, back to good old IRC! * mhall119 immediately grows a neckbeard <dholbach> dpm, mhall119, popey, balloons: do we have summaries of the individual sessions up somewhere? <mhall119> we do for appdev :) * dpm moves to the basement <dholbach> hum <dpm> popey, so you'll see some notes on the loco discussions just above the work items <balloons> if we don't a doc to add them to would be great <mhall119> belkinsa_web: did you start a doc for summary notes? <belkinsa_web> I have for Community but I need to work on cleaning it up <belkinsa_web> Yeah. <dholbach> belkinsa_web, do you have it in some google doc? I could help with adding some info about sessions I attended <dholbach> GunnarHj, did you have some more comments about the sponsorship queue? <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: who's going to take this one "[] Schedule a meeting with the LC to discuss ways to promote team activity and new leaders: TODO"? <popey> ok <belkinsa> dholbach, not yet, but I will. <GunnarHj> dholbach: No, I think you covered it well. Thanks! <dholbach> thanks GunnarHj! <mhall119> dholbach: I can take it, hopefully the LC isn't tired of me asking them for meetings :) <dholbach> belkinsa: if you want I can create the google doc <dholbach> mhall119, it'll be a hangout-on-air - it should be fun :) <belkinsa> dholbach, sure. <mhall119> dholbach: scheduling it is going to be the hard part <dholbach> yeah <belkinsa> Where's Ali? <belkinsa> Ah, there he is. <amjjawad> who? me? :P <belkinsa> Are you kicking it off, amjjawad? <amjjawad> as you like, I don't mind <amjjawad> should I? <belkinsa> Sure. <amjjawad> okay then, one moment <belkinsa> But I can if you don't want too <amjjawad> belkinsa: I'm about to finish :D <belkinsa> Setting it up? <amjjawad> yep <belkinsa> Can you get the links or should I upload them? <amjjawad> sure <amjjawad> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdmtijfX-Uc3bEKT4frwqRt2866g2fSoEmL_tR71_SpUHf8Xg <amjjawad> and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq4rRZi2XPI <belkinsa> And the video (YouTube) link <belkinsa> Thanks <amjjawad> you welcome <amjjawad> aldomann: are you there? <belkinsa> Done * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-1 to: Track: Community | Introduction to Ubuntu GNOME | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22257/ubuntu-gnome-panel/ <amjjawad> thanks belkinsa :D <amjjawad> 5 mins to go ... <belkinsa> Not a problem <amjjawad> are you on my Google+ circles? <amjjawad> can't remember I have seen you there <belkinsa> No, but it doesn't matter for hangouts <amjjawad> Yeah, I know, was just asking <belkinsa> I got the e-mail <amjjawad> I see <amjjawad> I like Google hangout a lot <belkinsa> I do to. <amjjawad> :D <amjjawad> aldomann: are you there? I hope you're <amjjawad> I burned my body today :P <amjjawad> 3 hours and a half at the pool <medo001> when it's gone start <amjjawad> I'm on fire now <amjjawad> medo001: in few seconds I guess <belkinsa> Ready! <amjjawad> yep <amjjawad> shall I start? <belkinsa> Sure <medo001> i was born ready <amjjawad> cool :D <amjjawad> burn* <ahoneybun> hey amjjawad <medo001> yep <amjjawad> hey :D <amjjawad> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdmtijfX-Uc3bEKT4frwqRt2866g2fSoEmL_tR71_SpUHf8Xg <ahoneybun> thought I slept in to much <belkinsa> amjjawad: Make sure you share the links here and the Pad. <belkinsa> And the Hangout chat too <amjjawad> sure <belkinsa> Thanks. <amjjawad> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage <aldomann> Sorry mate, but I have to go. I'll watch the hangout as soon as I'm finished. <aldomann> I wish I could attend with you, Ali. <amjjawad> http://ubuntugnome.org/gnome-3-12/ <Laney> any of you ubuntu GNOME guys going to GUADEC? <belkinsa> QUESTION: Laney: any of you ubuntu GNOME guys going to GUADEC? <belkinsa> You guys can end if needed. <amjjawad> sure <belkinsa> Same, online ones are acolon@example.com. <dholbach> ahoneybun, valorie: do you think you could provide a quick summary (like a sentence or a paragraph) about what you talked about in the Kubuntu Docs session yesterday? (It's for the community summary in the closing plenary later on.) <dholbach> if you just paste it here, I'll make sure it gets into the notes <belkinsa> I asked phillw for his note stoo <belkinsa> too* <dholbach> great <ahoneybun> dholbach:
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