#ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-01 * stu-mc calmed down a bit with a beer in hand <stu-mc> jrib: sorry for loosing my kool. <m1r> hi all <m1r> /root/.setup5340: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <m1r> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1 <nalioth> m1r: what are you trying to install? and what distro are you running? <m1r> ubuntu 7.04 , enemy teritory <nalioth> got a link? <m1r> link to ? <nalioth> enemy territory. <m1r> i dl from gaming site <m1r> used it on other machine with np <nalioth> ok. it seems it is wanting another version of glibc. <nalioth> i'm asking for the site, so i can look at it <m1r> second i give u link <m1r> http://www.gamershell.com/download_2355.shtml <m1r> last time i didnt have to install libgtk as i recall <m1r> ok is runing now, i got scared :) <m1r> 2 days infront pc dont make ppl feel good <nalioth> perhaps a nap is in order :) <m1r> think that is good idea, but i want my full spectar of games run first :) <m1r> got used laptop with ati 9000x64mb /512ram/2660mhz p4 <nalioth> sounds good :) <m1r> man, it is a beast :) <m1r> 1st time i managed to run 3d desktop <m1r> so i am filing it with every game i know for linux :) <m1r> do u know any good games u can recomend ? <m1r> i got open arena , nexuiz , torcs, et now <m1r> it is amaizing that all of them run with np :) <m1r> only problem is , i cant have anything ON desktop open if i want play, that part i dont get yet <nalioth> i'm not much of a gamer :( <m1r> me neither :) but with this power ... :) <m1r> would be pitty not to see what can it do , at least :) <nalioth> yep :) <m1r> on 2nd boot, shit showed me my battery is 16h time left :D <m1r> but then after 1 min, it got to 1h :/ <m1r> some damn nice bug would that be :) <m1r> *tnx lord for nescaffe 3in1* <m1r> i go seek some more games, tnx for help m8 :) <m1r> when did this chanell open btw ? <nalioth> it's been open for a long time <nalioth> i thought you were having compile issues, not install issues <m1r> ah :) <m1r> ah nice, found a site with list of games , wish me luck :P <m1r> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-03 <checkergrrl> morning jrib #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-04 <alexseif> jrib:gotchya <alexseif> jrib: I'm trying to reinstall liblog4j1.2-java-doc <jrib> k, let me know if you get errors with that. We'll try to sort that out first <alexseif> k <alexseif> yep same thing <alexseif> is there a way to just make it all go away <alexseif> I'v been up all night and today <jrib> try removing it <jrib> sudo aptitude remove liblog4j1.2-java-doc <alexseif> thanx yes i kinda got the aptitude thing <alexseif> is it any different from apt-get <jrib> aptitude is smarter about dependencies <jrib> if you install A that depends on B, and the later remove A, apt-get will leave B installed, but aptitude will know to remove B too <alexseif> gr8 tip thanx <alexseif> Document `liblog4j1.2-java-doc' is not installed, cannot remove. <alexseif> that's the error <alexseif> i'll try something <jrib> k <alexseif> same ol same ol <alexseif> can't I unpack files or get them in seperate files and build the directory from scratch then do it right <jrib> alexseif: what does this return: apt-cache depends apache2 <alexseif> apache2 <alexseif> |Depends: apache2-mpm-worker <alexseif> |Depends: apache2-mpm-prefork <alexseif> Depends: apache2-mpm-perchild <jrib> there should be more, no? <jrib> ok, never mind. I see now <jrib> do this: sudo aptitude purge apache2-common <jrib> pastebin output <alexseif> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28515/ <jrib> alexseif: ok, /etc/apache2/ should be empty now. Is that true? <jrib> or atleast apache2.conf should not exist <alexseif> well I already rm ed those <alexseif> i told you I messed up big time <jrib> ok, now: sudo aptitude install apache2 <alexseif> actually the directory is there but there is no apache2.conf <alexseif> k going for it <alexseif> i think its working <alexseif> jinx <alexseif> nope same error <alexseif> liblog4j1.2-java-doc <jrib> yeah, we're ignoring that for now <alexseif> I'll get back to you after some research <alexseif> oh ok <jrib> apt-cache policy apache2 <alexseif> that;s intentional <alexseif> Installed: 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 <alexseif> Candidate: 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 <alexseif> Version table: <alexseif> *** 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 0 <alexseif> 500 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages <alexseif> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status <alexseif> 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 0 <alexseif> 500 http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages <jrib> ok, so apache2 should be installed now with fresh config files <alexseif> whats going on <alexseif> gr8 <alexseif> yes it did it <jrib> lets see about getting rid of that doc error... <jrib> does /usr/share/doc/liblog4j1.2-java-doc/docs exist? <alexseif> only till liblog4j1.2-java-doc <alexseif> then i "mkdir docs" <jrib> yeah <alexseif> but that didn't help <alexseif> its trying to make a .dhelp file which I'm loooking for <jrib> sudo touch /usr/share/doc/liblog4j1.2-java-doc/docs/.dhelp <alexseif> ooh I get to touch things <alexseif> touch: cannot touch `/usr/share/doc/liblog4j1.2-java-doc/docs/.dhelp': No such file or directory <jrib> erm <jrib> 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/doc/liblog4j1.2-java-doc/docs/' <jrib> then touch again <jrib> actually, no touch <jrib> just try installing first <alexseif> i just did <jrib> same error? <alexseif> nope <alexseif> worked <alexseif> tell me i just manned touch it changes the timestamp <alexseif> y did i do that (if you don't mind telling me <jrib> alexseif: well 'touch' creates a file if it does not exist <jrib> that's why I used it <alexseif> oh <alexseif> kool <alexseif> now I'll try to install liblog4j1.2-java-doc <alexseif> you are gr8 <alexseif> jrib I owe you big <alexseif> thanx a lot <jrib> np #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-05 <alexseif> Hi I get a funny error when I gksudo gedit however it doesn't stop anything <nalioth> from a terminal? <alexseif> yes <nalioth> any time you start a gui app from the terminal, you'll get a scroll of stuff <alexseif> yes I didn't use to <alexseif> but I had some problem with a couple of things <nalioth> did you get them resolved? <alexseif> yeo <alexseif> yep <nalioth> :) <alexseif> I'm glad your glad <alexseif> when you install something like apache2-doc how do you get to it <nalioth> point your browser to file:///usr/share/docs <nalioth> or in the console "man apache" or "info apache" <alexseif> thats it <alexseif> thanx <alexseif> but I was looking for something more like a manual <nalioth> 'man' is short for 'manual' <alexseif> i know but man is used for explaining the comman I'm looking for a manual to the apache as all so I can configure <nalioth> there are millions of websites on how to set it up <jrib> you could probably install apache2-doc or just read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/ <alexseif> thanx <jrib> try #apache too #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-06 <hende> <Jordan__U> it will take like 15 minutes to install <hende> <Jordan__U> so u can help me with wifi and direct render <Jordan_U> ok <hende> jordan im pretty sure i have all the files i need i just dont know how to make them work <Jordan_U> hende, Lets try to deal with wifi first. <hende> thats what im talking about <hende> so you tell me what to do i do it <Jordan_U> hende, Can you connect to the internet through ethernet temporarily? <hende> see right not i have it hardlined to my router <hende> it picks up the connection but firefox doesnt <hende> but there is no wifi connection at all <Jordan_U> hende, try running: sudo dhclient eth0 <Jordan_U> hende, If it doesn't work then pastebin the output <hende> i cant firefox dont work <Jordan_U> oh yea :) <hende> i ran it <hende> what do you need to know <Jordan_U> What did the last line say ? <hende> no working lease in persistent database <hende> - sleeping <Jordan_U> :( <hende> what? <Jordan_U> And ethernet worked in windows? <hende> yes <hende> ? <Jordan_U> Ok, then I guess we can still try to get your wireless working, but you are going to have to transfer things with a thumb drive <hende> huh??? transfer what <hende> whats a thumb drive??? <Jordan_U> The firmware for your card, a USB key <Jordan_U> ( there are ~ 500 different names for it :) <hende> ok i dont think i have a usb key <hende> but i can burn to data disk <Jordan_U> Do you have an external drive or CD burner? <Jordan_U> Ok <hende> k <hende> so step 1 <Jordan_U> Grab the firmware for your card @: trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip <hende> its just closing the window <Jordan_U> Strange <hende> k got it <hende> open it or just burn it <Jordan_U> hende, Just burn it, I sent the file to you in case you can't get it from firefox for some reson <Jordan_U> *reason <Jordan_U> You could also unzip it first, it really doesn't matter <hende> ok well i already started burn <hende> k im ready <Jordan_U> hende, Ok, extract the firmware folder to your desktop <hende> i just out it in laptop <Jordan_U> then run: sudo cp ~Desktop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware <Jordan_U> Forgot a "/" it's : sudo cp ~/Desktop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware <hende> no such file or directory <hende> do you want me to just go to my desktop <Jordan_U> Do you have a folder named firmware on your desktop? <hende> yas <Jordan_U> hende, Does it have a bunch of .fw files in it? <hende> yes i can go in that folder in the terminal <Jordan_U> You need to copy the .fw files into /lib/firmware <Jordan_U> I don't know why that command wouldn't work though <hende> so how would i do that from the terminal or would i do that like with the filesystem <Jordan_U> Try cd'ing into ~/Desktop/firmware <Jordan_U> Then run: sudo cp *.fw /lib/firmware <hende> thats where im at <hende> it did it <hende> k what next <Jordan_U> hende, Ok, now either restart or run: sudo modprobe bcm43xx <hende> nothing happened <hende> it just went to the next command line <Jordan_U> hende, Then it worked <hende> ok <hende> the lights on will i have to do that everytime i turn it on? <Jordan_U> hende, No <hende> let me test it <hende> its working yay <hende> that was way easier then everyone made it into <hende> thank you <hende> let me check firefox <hende> its working <hende> so i wont have to do that everytime i turn it off and on <Jordan_U> Nope, it will be loaded automatically <hende> ok what about background effects <hende> hello <Jordan_U> hi, sorry, have you installed bcm43xx-fwcutter so that your firmware will be updated automatically ? <hende> no fw cutter i have the file though <Jordan_U> hende, fwcutter is a package, you don't need it now but it will keep your firmware up to date whenever a new version is released <hende> so how do i put it on <Jordan_U> Install bcm43xx-fwcutter from synaptic <hende> and the firmware files can i put them in the trash <Jordan_U> Do you know how to install things in Ubuntu? <hende> no <Jordan_U> Yes. <Jordan_U> !synaptic | hende <ubotu> hende: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto <hende> i don tlike howto's <hende> background effects??? <hende> i want the cube!! <hende> and the burning window <hende> jordan??? <Jordan_U> hende, Ok :) So System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects does not work correct? <hende> my screen goes white <hende> somebody told me i need to turn my 3d render on <hende> direct render <hende> ??? <Jordan_U> run: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel <hende> hit yes <Jordan_U> Yes <Jordan_U> Once that is done run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose "intel" as the driver then restart X and try desktop effects again <hende> i dont have intel as a option <hende> sisusb <hende> tdfx <Jordan_U> try scrolling up and downn <hende> tga <hende> ok i found it <hende> screen size <Jordan_U> Mark a resolution with the space bar <hende> ok <hende> i did how do i pastebin ill do it and show you what it says now <Jordan_U> No need to pastebin the output, just restart X and try desktop effects again <hende> restart what? <Jordan_U> X, the GUI, you can restart it by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace <hende> k its restarting <hende> ummm <hende> can i install jave with add remove programs <Jordan_U> Yes <hende> it errored out when i restarted <hende> eould beryle work <Jordan_U> So the GUI wouldn't start again? <hende> no i got a blue screen with a bunch of mumbo jumbo <Jordan_U> Are you sure that you have an intel GPU? <hende> thatswhat my specs say <hende> i can try it again <Jordan_U> hende, Try running the same command but choose "i810" instead of "intel" <hende> failed to start xserver <hende> it is likely it is not set up correctly <hende> view server output??? <Jordan_U> no, just press ctrl+alt+F2 to get to a terminal <hende> j??? <hende> ok <Jordan_U> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh <Jordan_U> Choose "i810" <hende> login incorrecty <hende> its not taking my password <hende> hold on <hende> ok <hende> i got a lits of video resolutions <hende> hello <hende> ??? <hende> ??? <hende> jordan??? <Jordan_U> hende, Sorry, choose whatever your native resolution is <hende> k <hende> now im back to command line <Jordan_U> hende, Run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart <hende> failed to start <hende> ??? <Jordan_U> hende, Then it really appears that you don't have an intel GPU, at least the intel drivers aren't working <hende> try different res??? <hende> its a intel extreme i googled ir <hende> it <hende> somebody said turn on direct render <Jordan_U> hende, You could try a different res, do you know the native resolution of your screen? <hende> on ubuntu normally 12 something by 768 <Jordan_U> hende, What about on windows? <hende> no idea <hende> i can google it <hende> 1280 by 800 <hende> hold on <Jordan_U> hende, Whatever it is that is the resolution you need to choose <hende> still failed <Jordan_U> Try without addig anything but the resolutions that are pre-selected <Jordan_U> i.e. just hit enter when it comes to the resolution screen <hende> k <hende> it still didnt work i tried intel too <hende> umm can you find anything on the forum about it <hende> would beryl be easier <hende> nice got it <hende> ati <hende> wow <Jordan_U> So it's an ATI card? <hende> i guess <Jordan_U> ATI cards are a pain <hende> still white screen <hende> so now we know its ati what do we do <Jordan_U> hende, You probably need to install the proprietary drivers + XGL, XGL is basically a hack that is only required on ATI cards because ATI/AMD hates Linux :( <hende> how to??? <Jordan_U> I don't know, ask in #ubuntu-effects <hende> k <hende> thanx <Jordan_U> on any other card it's easy <hende> so tell them i have a ati and need help <Jordan_U> Yes <hende> thank you so much jordan <Jordan_U> np <hende> wait i did it myself i think with the restricted drivers thingie <hende> 3d accelarator or something was disabled <Jordan_U> hende, Yes, restricted driver manager will give you direct rendering, but ATI's direct rendering does not support Beryl or Compiz <Jordan_U> That is why you also need to install XGL after you enable the restricted drivers <checkergrrl> someone here? <jrib> checkergrrl: hi <checkergrrl> jrib <checkergrrl> :) <checkergrrl> hey hey <checkergrrl> u still there <jrib> yep <checkergrrl> hey <checkergrrl> awesome <checkergrrl> i am trying to learn bash script <checkergrrl> and i am getting stuck <jrib> what's up? <checkergrrl> okay...i am trying to do this exercise <checkergrrl> copy all *.txt files copy them in a backup directory zip it and have a date on files <checkergrrl> i been trying to run them as command lines to see if it works <checkergrrl> i got as far as : find -name *.txt <checkergrrl> lol <checkergrrl> i am trying to run this command from root <checkergrrl> and its not working : cp *.txt /home/backups <jrib> what does it do <checkergrrl> cp *.txt ? <jrib> do you get any output? <checkergrrl> well i am trying to copy all the .txt files and place them to /home/backups <jrib> right, what does the shell output when you try your command? <checkergrrl> okay <checkergrrl> cp: cannot stat '.txt /home/backups #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-07 <Oxxy> hi! can someone help me on my problem .. i just cant make my soundcard work.. i dont get any sound :S <Oxxy> i have ubutnu 7,04 and conexant high definition audio sound card included on my toshiba satellite p105 s9337 laptop <jrib> Oxxy: #ubuntu is a better place for support, this channel is rarely active <Oxxy> im trying also there, but no help :S. i mean.. some help but still not working :S <jrib> Oxxy: have you been given the !sound factoid? That might have some info <Oxxy> wut? sorry im a complete noob, what do i have to do? <nalioth> !sound <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 <Oxxy> ok.. ill try <Oxxy> thx <Oxxy> woh.. i dont have even a sound icon :S:S:S:S <Oxxy> thats not good i guess..... <Oxxy> i had one... sometime :S <nalioth> that's not a problem, the panel can be manipulated to add/remove icons <Oxxy> oh.. and how do i add the sound icon there? <nalioth> right click the panel <Oxxy> oh i already added it <Oxxy> now i double click and...? <nalioth> double click or right click the sound icon <Oxxy> ok <nalioth> i'm not really good with sound <Oxxy> its ok <Oxxy> if u know anything that could work.. please lets try it <Oxxy> hmm i have the alsa mixer selected.. but still no sound :S <Jordan_U> nalioth, asoundconf list didn't show anything for him when I asked him to run it <Jordan_U> Oxxy, Sorry about that, I was helping other people and forgot about you :) * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-classroom.log #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-08 <kbrooks> boo. <icf7> Can somebody here tell me why I am banned from #ubuntu-motu ? Did I ask too many questions? #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-09 <checkergrrl> hi <checkergrrl> can someone plz help me with a script? <nalioth> checkergrrl: if you ask a question <checkergrrl> hi nalioth <checkergrrl> okoay <checkergrrl> i got this bash script i am working on: <checkergrrl> find -name *.txt -exec cp {} /home/backups/ gzip *.txt {} > /home/backups/ echo {} mv "*.txt 'date'" \; <checkergrrl> i got this script in one line... <checkergrrl> for some reason ...its complicated when is in one line <checkergrrl> how will i break it down <checkergrrl> i've tried ..but it does not work <checkergrrl> i am reading begginers script to try to understand how to write bash scripting <checkergrrl> nalioth ...are you there? <checkergrrl> someone there? <nalioth> checkergrrl: sorry, i'm not much good with scripting <nalioth> have you tried ##bash ? <checkergrrl> mmm let me try <checkergrrl> what are you good with? <nalioth> lots of things, checkergrrl #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-11 <gmu_man> can anyone help me figure out why my system is crashing? <gmu_man> can anyone help me figure out why my system is crashing? Anyone? <nalioth> gmu_man: #ubuntu is a better place to ask <gmu_man> i was refered here by Jordan_U <nalioth> then Jordan_U should be helping you <gmu_man> .... but he's not... <gmu_man> no matter... i'll just ask on the forums... <nalioth> gmu_man: the is a 'come here to get out of the massive traffic that is #ubuntu' channel <nalioth> this is, bleh <Jordan_U> I thought that this was the place for asking if people wanted lower traffic <nalioth> Jordan_U: no, you bring folks here to help them <Jordan_U> nalioth, Sorry then. <nalioth> Jordan_U: help gmu_man <gmu_man> :-) <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, In what way is it crashing? <gmu_ninja> I am running a server and it has locked up twice without any warning... <gmu_ninja> no GUI <gmu_ninja> I access it through SSH, and run a file server using samba <Jordan_U> When it locked up could you even switch virtual terminals? <gmu_ninja> nope... nothing... <Jordan_U> Ok, so nvm on that question :) <gmu_ninja> the crashes only happened while writing a torrent download to a SMB share <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, And it is not just the current ssh session that is locking up, you can't ssh in again? <gmu_ninja> no... <gmu_ninja> it crashes when my only connection to it is through samba <gmu_ninja> I am downloading a large file to a network drive to my ubuntu system, and it would crash <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Have you looked at the samba logs? <gmu_ninja> no, but I looked at the syslogs and found nothing... <gmu_ninja> which log should I look at? <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, I don't use samba but I think the log files are in /usr/local/samba/var/nmbd.log and smbd.log <gmu_ninja> the only error I notice (repeted several times) is: <gmu_ninja> [2007/07/10 22:13:42, 0] printing/pcap.c:pcap_cache_reload(159) <gmu_ninja> Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read! <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Permissions problem possibly? <gmu_ninja> no, because it was working for over 24 hrs... <gmu_ninja> but just recently it would start, and then crash the server... <gmu_ninja> it outputs a bunch of garbage to the tty, but I can't read anything usefull <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Are you trying to print also or is this just a file server? <gmu_ninja> just a file server... but it is setup to load the printers... <gmu_ninja> but I don't use it as a network printer <gmu_ninja> or network print server... <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Then that error is probably unrelated to the crashing while sharing large files <gmu_ninja> yup <gmu_ninja> it's crashing while WRITING several large files, from Azurez (BitTorrent) <gmu_ninja> Azureus is running on windows, and saving the files to a ubuntu samba share <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Is Azureus running on the server or on another machine and being written to the server through samba? <gmu_ninja> on another machine and being written to the server through samba <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, Nvm, of course you wouldn't use azureus on a server <gmu_ninja> yea... <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, I'm sorry then, I don't know what is wrong. Why aren't you running rtorrent on the server itself? <gmu_ninja> it's just more convienient for my setup... <gmu_ninja> no ideas on where to start? <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, No, sorry, I don't use samba <gmu_ninja> ok... thanks anyways <Jordan_U> gmu_ninja, #samba possibly? #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-15 <HarKoT> ol #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-18 * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-classroom.log <HarKoT> ol #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-19 <juano__> jrib: <juano__> jrib: its light blue <juano__> jrib: the file i mean <jrib> k <juano__> jrib <jrib> it would be red if it were broken <juano__> libnvidia-wfb.so.1 libvm86.so multimedia <juano__> libddc.so libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 <juano__> also i have two, see ? <jrib> ok, see: dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000043gl <juano__> libnvidia-wfb.so.1 <jrib> that looks like the problem <juano__> libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 <juano__> i have two <juano__> that doesnt look good <jrib> you're using feisty? <juano__> this libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 is the one i downloaded from nvidia.com <juano__> yea <juano__> how can i get rid of every nvidia files <juano__> and start from scratch <jrib> ah <juano__> maybe i need to do that <jrib> you installed the binary driver from nvidia.com <juano__> or maybe you know somethin easier <jrib> that messes things up <juano__> :P <juano__> yes <juano__> lol <juano__> i noticed <juano__> :P <jrib> there's some switch you can pass to the installer for it to uninstall <jrib> try ./whatever --help <juano__> ok, wher whatever is my package ? <jrib> where whatever is the binary installer you used from nvidia.com <juano__> jrib: mm no option for uninstalling <jrib> alright, it's in the readme, let me find it <jrib> how about just trying --uninstall until I find it :) <juano__> yep that uninstalled it <juano__> well at least it said so <jrib> heh ok <juano__> lol <juano__> so next step <juano__> lol <jrib> now, 'sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx' <juano__> ok it asked for Y/n and i gave it Y <juano__> ok done <juano__> jrib: now <juano__> ? <juano__> jrib: now ? (sorry im in a bit of a hurry, need to go in 10 minutes) <jrib> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx <jrib> and then use nvidia-xconfig to enable it again <juano__> ok done <juano__> now a ctrl alt del ? <juano__> and pray lol <juano__> jrib: right ? nothing else ? <jrib> yeah <juano__> k brb <juano__> jrib: darn, no luckl <juano__> jrib: same deal <jrib> dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 <juano__> jrib: the other thing i did was disable nv in restricted modules <juano__> nvidia-glx: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 <juano__> thats the output <jrib> hmm <juano__> darn... <juano__> glxgears <juano__> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". <juano__> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual <juano__> jrib: <juano__> thats what i get with glxgears <jrib> right because it can't load it <juano__> yea <juano__> any other ideas jrib <jrib> you could reinstall the restricted modules too <juano__> and that would be <juano__> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules ? <jrib> sudo aptitude reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) <juano__> ok <juano__> it reinstalled <juano__> jrib <jrib> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411542 same problem <jrib> heh <jrib> ugh I hate nvidia #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-20 <juano__> hello jrib <juano__> im back <jrib> hi juano__ <jrib> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411542 same problem, try the hints here <juano__> jrib: awesome, ill try it out <juano__> jrib: thanks a lot <jrib> hmm <jrib> x_: hi <x_> hi :-) <x_> sorry <x_> i tried linux just 12 hour :-) <jrib> k, ready to install flash? <x_> yeah :) <jrib> alright, are you at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-4b931137affcbddef2ac9102a3d9fafde91f869f ? <x_> !!! <jrib> hmm? <x_> yeah <x_> i am in that page <jrib> k, first step is to enable multiverse. have you done that? <x_> no <jrib> k, go to system -> admin -> software sources and check multiverse <x_> wait .. i shoul find it in <jrib> k, first is to open "software sources" from your menu. Did that open up ok? <x_> it allrady checked <jrib> k, good <jrib> now you have to install "flashplugin-nonfree" <x_> thanks :-) ... next ?! <jrib> you know how to install packages? <x_> sudo apt-get install ?! <jrib> sure, that works <jrib> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree <x_> let me try :-) <x_> Download done. <x_> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz <x_> The Flash plugin is NOT installed. <x_> what's wrong ?! <jrib> heh <x_> says NOT INSTALLED :-( <jrib> what version of ubuntu? <x_> 7.04 <jrib> k, open up software sources again <x_> ok ... wait <x_> yeah ... next plz <jrib> notice the comment on the wiki about needing proposed updates because of a bug <jrib> go to the "updates" tab <jrib> and check "feisty-proposed" <jrib> don't install any updates at this time <jrib> we'll turn off this repo after we install flash <x_> wait <x_> there are not something like that <jrib> in the updates tab (3rd one), it should be the third checkbox: "Pre-released updates (feisty-proposed)" <x_> in 3th check box says : Pre-released updates <x_> oh <x_> ok <jrib> yeah, that one <x_> ok .. i marked it <jrib> k after that, close the window and 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' again <x_> wait ... programe checking for something <HeaDSHoT> make sure ur system is upto date too :P <x_> oook ... it says installed flash plugin ... huuurrraaa ... oops .. i should updating my system :-( <x_> THANKS :-) <jrib> ok, I recommend you disable the proposed updates now <x_> that was BIG help :-) <x_> after update or befor ?! <jrib> before <x_> oops ... my update attension gone :-o <x_> is i wanna install something for DIVX and XVID and RM and WMA player what should i do ?! <jrib> yeah, -proposed might contain some broken packages, it's only for people that don't mind testing things and risking a broken package once in a while <jrib> !restricted | x_ <ubotu> x_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats <x_> oh my god <x_> it's not easy too me reading that p[ages :-) <jrib> take it slowly <x_> how u learned ?! <jrib> slowly :) <x_> thanks friend ... u was a BIG help for me :-) <jrib> the actual instructions are about 3 lines if you skip the intro <jrib> np, have fun <x_> oook .. i'll do that <x_> thanks ... <x_> u 2 :) <x_> have a good DAY or Night ;-) bye <HeaDSHoT> hey <HeaDSHoT> x_ <x_> yeah <HeaDSHoT> try this site <HeaDSHoT> sec <x_> what is that about ?! <x_> ??!!!! wich site ?! <juano__> jrib: it worked!!! finally..... i removed all and installed nvidia-glx-new <juano__> jrib: now im getting fast glxgears <juano__> jrib: and driver is now nvidia ! <jrib> cool <juano__> yea <juano__> seems fine <juano__> phew <juano__> jrib: thanks for all your help jrib <jrib> np, glad you figured it out <juano__> jrib: how do i make the splashscreen show up at X start ? <jrib> which splashscreen? <jrib> gdm? <juano__> yep <juano__> nope <juano__> i mean <juano__> Nvidia splashscreen <jrib> oh <jrib> it should do taht by default unless you disable it in xorg.conf <juano__> i have a Option "NoLogo" "True" in screen <juano__> i commented it out but still the same <jrib> yeah, comment that out <juano__> is this correct for device section <juano__> Section "Device" <juano__> Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] " <juano__> Driver "nvidia" <juano__> EndSection <juano__> just that ? <juano__> in Screen i got ARGB visuals, etc <jrib> sure, that's enough <juano__> cool <juano__> thanks <juano__> jrib: <juano__> jrib: darn, still having the same problem, worked fine but then when i rebooted i got the error again <juano__> jrib: i formatted lol, now and started ubuntu from scratch, installed nvidia-glx from repos and nothing, same deal <Urbandale> whu am i banned from #ubuntu ? <nalioth> Urbandale: why are you asking in here? #ubuntu-ops is the place <MikeRotch> hey everyone * Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-classroom.log #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-21 <HarKoT> bon allez soire poker bye ;) #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-22 <Flannel> Howdy warlocky <warlocky> heya. <warlocky> well, this is my problem right now. <warlocky> I recently (this morning) accidently removed my php.ini file, and we sorted this out aswell this morning - you helped me out. But now it seems that the php.ini file I'm currently am using is different from the one I removed in the morning. Thus results in my webpage not working correctly (UDP packages not working well obviously) <warlocky> So what we are trying to do, is upgrading to php5.1.6 or such, or just getting our UDP to work correctly. The website seems to go into slow-mo when we load our udp package <Flannel> warlocky: hmm, There appears to be a breezy mirror (unofficual of course) http://bea.cabarel.com/ubuntu/ * warlocky looks happy <Flannel> You could use that to reinstall php <Flannel> http://bea.cabarel.com/modules/PunBB/viewtopic.php?pid=1734 <Flannel> has a sample sources.list <warlocky> how do I add that to the sources.list? <warlocky> oh <Flannel> However, you must have something else going on, since your updates tried to grab hoary too, which wasn't in the sources.list you showed me <warlocky> I'll double check, a second. <warlocky> You're correct, I don't have hoary in my sources.list <warlocky> W: GPG error: http://bea.cabarel.com dargo Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0E28E8629B4D6E8E <Flannel> later versions put some stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/[more files] , but I don't think that was around for breezy, do you even have that folder? <Flannel> http://mirror.math.lsu.edu/ubuntu/dists/ <Flannel> try that mirror, you'll end up changing all the urls (but keeping everything else the same) <warlocky> kk <Flannel> er, <warlocky> I get the point :-) <Flannel> remove the /dists/ at the end <warlocky> yea, working on it <Flannel> but its still very odd that apt is still trying to get hoary stuff <warlocky> Failed to fetch http://mirror.math.lsu.edu/ubuntu/dists/dargo/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found <warlocky> Reading package lists... Done <warlocky> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. <nalioth> it's still in the sources.list, Flannel <Flannel> nalioth: what? <warlocky> well, I'm still getting errors while apt-get updating, I guess I can't install anything unless I stop getting these errors? <Flannel> warlocky: I don't know where that dargo thing came from, remove that line. <warlocky> roger <nalioth> warlocky: have you pasted your sources.list anywhere? <warlocky> Yes, to Flannel before. <Flannel> nalioth: He did last night, there was no hoary <warlocky> This morning, I've spoken to him <nalioth> can we paste it again? or give me the pastebin? <warlocky> well, it's changed now - but I'll give you the old one <warlocky> !pastebin <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) <Flannel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30756/ <warlocky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30799/ <nalioth> let me look <nalioth> it's gotta be in there, cuz apt doesnt download from anything but the sources.list <warlocky> (offtopic question: I tried to do a apt-get remove php5, and it removes phpmyadmin too - does that remove the sql databases aswell?) <nalioth> it should leave your databases alone <warlocky> ok, another question: is there a way to see if theres a newer php5 version available? <warlocky> apt-get upgrade didn't show me anything with php5 <warlocky> neaither does apt-get install php5 <Flannel> warlocky: if you've kept up to date, then there most likely won't be, you already have the newest one. Breezy has stopped being updated <warlocky> ah ,right #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-23 <HarKoT> ol <[UPG] Pritchard> Hello. <nalioth> hi <jrib> hi <jrib> [UPG] Pritchard: are you familiar with irssi? <[UPG] Pritchard> Not very much so. I had thought with irssi I couldn't join multiple channels and work at the same time through the terminal. <jrib> [UPG] Pritchard: k, do you know if irssi is already installed on your system? <[UPG] Pritchard> Yes it is ^.^;; <jrib> good <jrib> you know how to get to a tty by pressing ctrl-alt-f1? <[UPG] Pritchard> Yup. Can I switch workspace tabs using that? <jrib> well you can get 6 terminals to work with by hitting ctrl-alt-f1, or ctrl-alt-f2, or ..., ctr-alt-f6 <[UPG] Pritchard> Right. In that case, let me reboot my system and join #ubuntu again <[UPG] Pritchard> brb ^.^;; <jrib> k <advent> Back. Apparently it's started the installation and I'm on 7.04 <[UPG] Pritchard> I have a couple backups of the kernal on my booter, I think. Not sure though. <jrib> k <jrib> lets see how apt is doing <jrib> what does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do? <[UPG] Pritchard> E: unmet dependencies. try -f <nalioth> jrib: tty? why not use Console or Konsole ? <[UPG] Pritchard> Tells me xorg has unmet dependencies. <jrib> nalioth: no X after direct dapper -> feisty <[UPG] Pritchard> It tells me apt-get -f install could fix the problem. <jrib> try it <[UPG] Pritchard> Gah. Unable to correct dependencies. <nalioth> jrib: ouch <jrib> k, you need to pastebin some stuff... one sec <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright. I can pastebin through the terminal? :D <jrib> alright, here's how we will do it: run the commands but append '| tee ~/pastebin1' to them. So run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | tee ~/pastebin1' for example <[UPG] Pritchard> Okay <jrib> k, now dcc send them to me with: /dcc send jrib file1 file2 ... <[UPG] Pritchard> I didn't see the files that were output. <jrib> k, let me explain: COMMAND | tee ~/pastebin1 saves the output of COMMAND in the file ~/pastebin1 <[UPG] Pritchard> Oh :D <[UPG] Pritchard> Is /dcc an irssi command? <jrib> yeah, it worked <[UPG] Pritchard> Didn't give me any feedback. Jw. Thanks for the help. <jrib> now show me 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common' <jrib> so this seems like it should work: (cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common) | tee ~/pastebin2 <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright. I hope that worked <jrib> k, I didn't get sources.list <jrib> just the apt-cache policy part, but I think this is enough <jrib> lets get rid of the broken X and just install it again <jrib> do: sudo apt-get remove x11-common <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright. Removed it, apparently O.o;; <jrib> it got rid of a bunch of stuff right? <[UPG] Pritchard> Not sure. I can't really tell from the log. <[UPG] Pritchard> At the end of it, it still complains about dependencies. <jrib> what does it say <[UPG] Pritchard> packagename (ex: xserver-xorg) Depends: packagename - but it is not going to be installed <[UPG] Pritchard> Does that far more packages than I can read, and it gives me another unmet dependency error at the end. <jrib> k, show me <jrib> k, check if x11-common is still installed: 'apt-cache policy x11-common <[UPG] Pritchard> installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 <jrib> pfft <[UPG] Pritchard> installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 0: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status <[UPG] Pritchard> Then I have a candidate version, 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 <jrib> yeah, that's the new one we want to get in there <jrib> easy way is to get apt to just remove X <nalioth> tried 'sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade? * nalioth adds to the confusion <[UPG] Pritchard> nalioth, wasn't able to correct dependencies. <[UPG] Pritchard> alright so sudo apt-get remove X? <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: my command was different from any you've been offered previously <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: it's sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg <enter> <[UPG] Pritchard> Is it still common to have it give me dependency errors then? <[UPG] Pritchard> Removing xserver-xorg is what we tried earlier, right? <jrib> nope, go ahead and try xserver-xorg, we tried x11-common before <nalioth> i think honestly, you should start over the install. basically you're gonna have to break the machine some more, before you can build it back up <nalioth> and you may break it to the point it doesn't talk to humans at all <[UPG] Pritchard> ;_; <jrib> installing will probably be faster to be honest, just backup your /home and it will be the same anyway <[UPG] Pritchard> Right. <nalioth> wasn't the warning on the upgrade page about skipping releases? <[UPG] Pritchard> Yes. There was indeed a very large warning. <[UPG] Pritchard> I wasn't aware of that before I tried this, however :P <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright, will I need to redownload from a CD to install, or can I do this through the command-line? <[UPG] Pritchard> Heheh. <nalioth> you'll need a cd, <[UPG] Pritchard> Darnit. <[UPG] Pritchard> Would the CD remove my current distro for me? <nalioth> it has the capability of wiping your drive, yes <[UPG] Pritchard> By drive you mean partition, meaning only the one Ubuntu's on, right? <[UPG] Pritchard> I'm on a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu. <nalioth> no, the drive is the whole thing <nalioth> a partition is a subsection of a drive <[UPG] Pritchard> That was a joke. I don't want my XP partition deleted <[UPG] Pritchard> :D <nalioth> losing XP is a step in the right direction, imho <[UPG] Pritchard> I have a looot of stuff on that partition, and I use XP for development atm because I'm too lazy to learn it on Linux. <nalioth> it's easier on linux <[UPG] Pritchard> Probably :P <[UPG] Pritchard> I *wish* I could be on Linux most of the time, but I can't. <[UPG] Pritchard> And removing XP also means that I can't play all my fun Windows programs :P <nalioth> fun windows programs? <[UPG] Pritchard> Yeah. like BSOD. <[UPG] Pritchard> And uhm, games that don't have a Linux port :D <[UPG] Pritchard> (which is a lot of them, sadly) <[UPG] Pritchard> Oh, and photoshop. <nalioth> two words <nalioth> Cedega <nalioth> GimpShop <[UPG] Pritchard> Gimp's UI is awful imo. <[UPG] Pritchard> Haven't tried anything else really though. <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: um, i didn't say "Gimp" <nalioth> i said "GimpShop" <[UPG] Pritchard> Is it free? <nalioth> yes, it is. <nalioth> i don't use payware <nalioth> i've not used Windows since the year 2000 <[UPG] Pritchard> Thanks for the info. Got to go now. See ya. <[UPG] Pritchard> Thanks for the help jrib. <[UPG] Pritchard> Guess I'm just going to have to reinstall. <nalioth> jrib: did you see a ban on him in #ubuntu ? <jrib> nalioth: no <nalioth> me, neither #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-24 <dk0r> I need help learning the basics of installing via command line, synaptic and manually w/ tarballs. Anyone willing to hold my hand? <jrib> k, where is the script? <jrib> 2. what did you 'cd' to in the script? <Polyneux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31141/ <Polyneux> I had cd to / but I took it out in the linked version. <jrib> on your system I mean, what is the path to the script? <Polyneux> Its in /ja <jrib> you don't have permission to write to / <jrib> try 'mkdir ~/.ja' in a terminal and then in your script, put 'cd ~/.ja' <jrib> oh, but then you call files later on directly... <jrib> did you write this? <jrib> what is /ja? <Polyneux> Dedicated server for a game. <jrib> you understand the issue right? Your user can't write to /ja <Polyneux> Yes I think I can see that is there a way to change that? <jrib> well you can either make your user the owner or set up a group <Polyneux> I thought my user was already the owner... <jrib> what does 'ls -ld /ja' return? <Polyneux> d-w-rwxrwx 8 elm elm 4096 2007-07-24 14:53 /ja <jrib> what does 'touch /ja/.temp' return? <Polyneux> Permission denied <Polyneux> Sudo returns a regular prompt. <jrib> what does 'ls -ld /ja/.temp' return? <Polyneux> Had to sudo: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4335 2007-07-24 14:57 /ja/.temp <jrib> alright <jrib> do this: 'sudo chmod 755 /ja && sudo rm /ja/.temp' <Polyneux> Done <Polyneux> Now one of the "permission denied" lines is gone when I try to run the .sh :D <jrib> check for the other files now: ls -ld /ja/japlus_restart.txt /ja/log.txt <Polyneux> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53 2007-07-24 14:22 /ja/japlus_restart.txt <Polyneux> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 2007-07-24 14:22 /ja/log.txt <Polyneux> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53 2007-07-24 14:22 /ja/japlus_restart.txt <Polyneux> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 2007-07-24 14:22 /ja/log.txt <Polyneux> Oops :3 <jrib> delete them: sudo rm /ja/japlus_restart.txt /ja/log.txt <jrib> if you sudo the script again, it will cause you issues again <jrib> btw, the script really should do 'cd /ja' at the second line <Polyneux> It works <Polyneux> I love you #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-26 * #ubuntu-classroom [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup <jrib> hi <Keith> hi <jrib> run this and make sure the package installed correctly: 'apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin' <Keith> sun-java6-plugin: <Keith> Installed: (none) <Keith> Candidate: 6-00-2ubuntu2 <Keith> Version table: <Keith> 6-00-2ubuntu2 0 <Keith> 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages <jrib> it's not installed :) <Keith> hmm <jrib> do this: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin <Keith> it says it did :) <Keith> ok done <Keith> Unpacking sun-java6-plugin (from .../sun-java6-plugin_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb) ... <Keith> Setting up sun-java6-plugin (6-00-2ubuntu2) ... <jrib> ok, now close all instances of firefox and start a new one <Keith> I love you, and want your babies :) <Keith> tyvm sir <jrib> np <Keith> so it just didnt finish installing the last time? <jrib> yeah, for some reason <Keith> what does aptitude do? <jrib> it's a package manager, like synaptic, but for the command line <jrib> !apt > Keith (see the private message from ubotu) <Keith> thank you once again :) #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-27 <dk0r> !hardware <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport <dk0r> why isn't m-audio on this list? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards <dk0r> I know Ive seen it there before. #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-28 <dk0r> Any suggestions for a torrent client and burning rom? Im new to linux. <dk0r> Oh, also a news client <dk0r> with indexing <tonyyarusso> I use rtorrent (cli, simple) <tonyyarusso> !burners <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto <tonyyarusso> !news <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi <tonyyarusso> blah <tonyyarusso> Liferea, Thunderbird, Sage are all contenders. <tonyyarusso> (for my purposes, not necessarily yours) <dk0r> tonyyarusso, are you an op? <dk0r> staff* <tonyyarusso> dk0r: For a number of Ubuntu channels, yes; Freenode, no. <tonyyarusso> (sorry for the long response - I'm on my way to bed) <dk0r> tonyyarusso, heh ok. <dk0r> oh. im in the wrong room <dk0r> geez. #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-29 <dk0r> Im trying to install avant window manager following the tutorial here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 <dk0r> Im doing 'Option 2' and have gotten to the 'Compule step' where u enter "make" but I am receiving an error. Any guidance would be appreciated <dk0r> dk0r@dk0r:~/avant-window-navigator$ make <dk0r> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. <dk0r> theres a makefile.am and makefile.in in the dir. Are these anything significant ? <dk0r> heh. I said avant window manager. I ment navigator. :) <dk0r> Im new to linux and just installed avant window navigator and am wondering how I would remove the default taskbar @ the bottom of the screen? <dk0r> Can someone please tell me how to apply a patch to AWN? (http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/28405/) <dk0r> Can someone please walk me through implementing this AWN patch (http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/28405/) to get the angeled/reflecting dock look? I h <dk0r> Can someone please walk me through implementing this AWN patch (http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/28405/) to get the angeled/reflecting dock look? I applied it and tried to edit awn-bar.c, but I cannot find a selection to set the angle, only offset. <dk0r> sorry #ubuntu-classroom 2007-07-31 <dk0r> how do you add programs to startup w/ your system? system>preferences>sessions seems to lag. alot. <dk0r> when i have sessions manager call up fusion/awn @ startup, is there any way to hide the terminal thats opened in the process ?? <dk0r> i applied a new png for firefox's icon, and it looks pretty small. <dk0r> How do I change the size? <dk0r> Anyone know how to stretch/skew icons in awn docks? <dk0r> Anyone know how to stretch icons in awn's dock? #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-01 <walticogt> holas #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-02 <DankTank2> evening everyuone <DankTank2> everyone* <DankTank2> anyone home? <DankTank2> good evening everyone #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-03 <redcat> bonjour la rÃ©union Ã©cole MOTU , rapport d'apport c'est bien ici a 10H00 utc <redcat> ? <redcat> j'ai trouvÃ© la date c'est bon <persia> redcat: That was last week :) <persia> james_w: When is the next class schedule? <persia> s/\?/d?/ <james_w> persia: it isn't yet <persia> james_w: Ah. OK. Maybe later in the month, or will it likely be August? <james_w> should be later this month, I need to send the request email soon. <persia> Cool. Thanks for the update. <JoshuaP0x> hello #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-04 <quio> Can someone please help me get my wireless working. I have been reading Ubuntu forums and documentation to get it running and cannot figure it out. It worked before I upgraded to 8.04 hardy. I know the card works because if I put in an XP hard drive it works right away. Any suggestions please? <emgent> quio: please do not use amsg in all room. try in #ubuntu <emgent> thanks. #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-09 <madeddie> hmm <madeddie> topic is outdated ;) * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Ubuntu Open Week is over, thanks for participating! | Information and Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | Next Session: Thursday July 10 20:00 UTC: "Encouraging women to participate in Ubuntu" <pleia2> :) <e-jat> :) <e-jat> encouraging weeks :0 #ubuntu-classroom 2008-07-10 <cesar_bo> Sorry, the Session: ï»¿"Encouraging women to participate in Ubuntu", would be tomorrow, I don't find the event on the schedule on the wiki ... <cesar_bo> where can I find information about the session of tomorrow? * pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Ubuntu Open Week is over, thanks for participating! | Information and Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | Next Session: Thursday July 17 20:00 UTC: "Encouraging women to participate in Ubuntu" <huats> there :) <persia> heh <persia> The idea of attending 1/3 meetings was about a demonstration of commitment. I have no strong feelings about it. <huats> Oh <huats> I think it is necessary to show the commitment... <huats> but maybe 1/3 is a bit to hard to acheive <huats> especially with the rotation of timezone <huats> ... <huats> may be a good idea could be, but I am sure many mentors wont agree, to let the mentor handle this commitment dea <huats> idea (I mean) <norsetto> who is pleia2, james_w ? <huats> why not have a "regular" meeting beetween a mentor and his mentees... <huats> so the mentee can show his progress... <huats> or at least his activities <huats> or just an email from the mentee to the mentor, to keep him imformed <huats> of the work in progress <persia> huats: Could be: I was thinking of education as much as mentoring. <norsetto> what would be different from now? I mean, do we need to say to the mentor to keep track of his mentee activities? <huats> norsetto: we should not <huats> but you cannot impose someone to attend regular meetings... <huats> the mentee can have his commitment when he can... <huats> that is my main pb... <norsetto> why not? thats what you normally do in schools, isn't? <huats> norsetto: sure <huats> but may be just a regular report might do it.. <norsetto> I mean, when you attend your fine arts lesson, you know there are these lessons, at a certain time, why would it be different here <huats> norsetto: i clearly see you point... <huats> and I agree that this proof of commitment is a necessity <huats> I am not sure, that attending a meeting is a good prrof <norsetto> the proposal is to integrate the two activities more closely, in a way school and mentoring will not be two separate activities anymore <huats> I understand <huats> and it is great <norsetto> we will not require to attend all lessons, but we have to guarantee a minimum attendance, at least to show that you are serious and willing to
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