#ubuntu-reviews 2010-05-01 <om26er> if a patch is attached to a bug report but belongs to another should it be removed from the bug where it dont belong? <vish> om26er: done ;) also , you can just remove the patch flag , will prevent the script from resubscribing the team <om26er> did that I think <om26er> vish, did I gave the bug number? <vish> om26er: nope , i just remembered that bug ;) .. removed the patch tag too now <om26er> vish, great and I am just building adium theme with the latest patch in that bug report :) <om26er> whats going on with lp builders it say the package will be build on Start 2010-05-04 :( <om26er> here comes pbuilder then #ubuntu-reviews 2010-05-02 <nigelbabu> we haz team report :) #ubuntu-reviews 2010-05-03 <dholbach> good morning <ajmitch> morning dholbach * ajmitch will reply on time one day <dholbach> hey ajmitch #ubuntu-reviews 2010-05-04 <nigelbabu> persia: ok, so tomorrow is patch day,who does the starting delights? :) <nigelbabu> err, today rather <nigelbabu> bdrung: just reminding you that patch day starts today :) <nigelbabu> nhandler: ^ <nigelbabu> who else to remind now <nhandler> Thanks nigelbabu <nhandler> Where is the schedule? <nigelbabu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay <nhandler> thanks <nhandler> nigelbabu: One thing we might want to do is poke the next reviewer when it gets close to their turn <ajmitch> good to see all the slots filled now <dholbach> good morning <persia> Patch Day! Patch Day! Patch Day! <persia> So, this is the beginning of patch day. The 5th of May is slowly winding itself over the globe. <persia> Who all's here? * vish never seen persia so excited ;) <persia> hey vish. <vish> hi.. <BlackZ> hey persia <persia> Hey BlackZ. <persia> So, 330 outstanding patches seeking quick review: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers/+subscribedbugs <persia> Let's get that down to 0 by the end of today. We've almost 50 hours, so if we can do better than one patch every 10 minutes, we win!. <ajmitch> hi all <persia> Hey slytherin, popey. Welcome! <slytherin> :-) <popey> o/ <persia> So the list of patches we're trying to clear today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers/+subscribedbugs <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide is a guide to how we review the patches. <persia> There's other informative links in the /topic if you're curious :) <kermiac> hey ppl - I've never done patch review before but I'm willing to give it a shot :) is there anything I can help with? <persia> kermiac: Absolutely. We've a little over 300 patches we're targeting today. <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide is the procedure we're using: just grab any bug to which ~ubuntu-reviewers is subscribed, and ihodge@example.net. <vish> yay , knocked one out.. <kermiac> ok, I'll have a look. Thanks persia :) <persia> Hurrah vish! <vish> persia: hmm , Bug #111939 , has the debdiff , earlier sponsors [ bdrung ] mentioned there was no debdiff , but now we have one , we can unsubscribe the reviewers and subscribe the sponsors right? also nigelbabu has spoken about this bug to didrocks <ubot3> Malone bug 111939 in metacity "Not possible to alt-tab during a drag-and-drop operation" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111939 <persia> vish: Needs a maverick patch at this point, as well. <vish> ah.. ok <persia> vish: If yo'd like, you can probably easily convert nigelbabu's lucid-proposed debdiff to maverick, and then drop it from our queue. Looks like it's already upstream, so would probably benefit from some tags. <yofel> hm, what needs to be done on bug 154349? correct the tags? <ubot3> Malone bug 154349 in synaptic "synaptic won't remember certain preferences" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154349 <persia> yofel: Looks like it's tags only there, yeah. <persia> yofel: Might be able to just drop from the queue, depending on the upstream status of the patches. <yofel> mvo merged it into lucid but not trunk yet (as said on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~oliver-joos/synaptic/lp154349/+merge/23250) <yofel> would that be accepted or sent? <persia> I think just patch-forward-upstream: needs to have been merged to be patch-accepted-upstream <yofel> ok <yofel> remove the patch tag or leave it? <bdrung> vish: yes (subscribing ubuntu-sponsors) <persia> leave it. Otherwise it just gets added again and the team resubscribed. <yofel> ok <vish> persia: hmm , i think nigelbabu already has the debdiff for that too.. <bdrung> nigelbabu: do the review team recommend DEP-3? * persia didn't see if, but if it's there, yeah, bdrung is right. <vish> ah yay.. bdmurray just replied ;) <vish> oopd bdrung ^ <persia> bdrung: We don't really care: we focus on getting patches to upstream, mostly. <persia> bdrung: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow <bdrung> persia: getting patches upstream does not conflict with using DEP-3 header. <yofel> persia: tagged, the workflow says to unsubscribe the reviewers team now, can you do that? <persia> bdrung: Right, but we don't insist on it: we assume that it's best to pass the patch around with appropriate attribution, regardless of the format. DEP-3 is more important in the context of getting a patch applied as a distro-patch than in the context of ensuring communication with usptream is happening. <persia> yofel: Sure. 154349, right? <yofel> yes <persia> yofel: Done. <yofel> thanks :D <yofel> next one... <persia> Damascene: Are you finding everything you need? <bdrung> persia: yes. IMO a reference or recommendation for DEP-3 in the reviewguide would be nice. <Damascene> persia, I found out that I'm not a member of bugsquad nor understand how to make .deb files * yofel didn't know about DEP-3, will read it later <persia> bdrung: Do you really think it's relevant for patches that aren't being applied at a distro-level? <bdrung> persia: i think it's useful. You have the link to launchpad in the patch. <persia> OK. You do know that we don't expect patch authors to read the reviewers guide, right? <bdrung> persia: yes. the member of the review team could add the header (at least when he/she creates a debdiff) <persia> But generally we *don't* create debdiffs. <persia> We mostly just forward the patches upstream. <persia> (the exception being patches to distro-patches or packaging, but those don't generally get DEP-3 anyway) <ajmitch> persia: so where the patch comes from upstream via the debian maintainer, and it's only SRU material (mysql), does the review team need to be subscribed? <persia> ajmitch: In cases like that it's be nice of us to debdiffise it and push to sponsors, but not, that doesn't need us to do anything. <persia> s/not/no/ <ajmitch> well it's being handled by a server team member * ajmitch isn't in the team, so can't unsub <persia> In that case, we don't need to care about it at all: just add the tags (patch-accepted-upstream, etc.) and move on. <ajmitch> bug 343870 if you want to take it off the list <ubot3> Malone bug 343870 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "php-cli segmentation fault with mysql extension" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343870 <persia> Sure. <persia> Done. * dholbach adds ajmitch <persia> dholbach: Thanks! <dholbach> blogged about it too http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=678 <ajmitch> dholbach: ta <persia> hey duanedesign! <yofel> how would one handle bug 251335? part of the patch was accepted, part of it needs work, the bug is tagged as patch-needswork already <ubot3> Malone bug 251335 in synaptic "Synaptic searches on UI thread" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251335 <persia> yofel: I'd probably call that "patch-forwarded-upstream" and "patch-needswork". <persia> yofel: Shall I unsub the team for that one? <yofel> I think yes (at least that's what I believe after reading the review guide) <persia> Done. <persia> So we've finished the first hour of patch day, and are already 6% complete. At this rate, we'll be done in 16 hours! <ajmitch> persia: the 312 that's showing is a bit high, too <ajmitch> as multiple bug tasks on the same bug show up in the list <persia> ajmitch: Sure, but since I started with the 330 number (also a bit high), I figure it's only fair to compare against that. * persia tries to convince LP to provide a more correct number * ajmitch tries to decide what to do about this bug <persia> Which bug? <ajmitch> bug 551901, it's sort-of-but-not-quite upstreamed <ubot3> Malone bug 551901 in krb5 "likewise-open fails to join Windows 2000 SP4 domain" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/551901 <ajmitch> again, being handled by the server team people :) * ajmitch is going for familiar territory in the list <persia> Probably the same: needs tagging, and unsubscription. Bugs well-in-hand tend to just need gentle poking. <ajmitch> ok <ajmitch> I think I'll get back to this tomorrow, a little late for me to think straight this evening <persia> Thanks! Have a good night. <persia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-reviewers seems to be the URL for the lower-number (but I don't have the count from the start of Patch Day). 201 now. <persia> Anyone looking for instructions, or buglists? <persia> nigelbabu: Are you about? <yofel> persia: can you unsubscribe the team from bug 33288? nigelbabu seems to have forgot about it (and should one re-ad the patch tag for those bugs?) <ubot3> Malone bug 33288 in poppler "Evince doesn't handle columns properly" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33288 <persia> yofel: I don't see the point of re-adding the patch tag, personally. <yofel> ah wait, there's no patch on it anymore right <persia> dholbach: Could you add yofel to the team? He seems to have a good handle on the process :) <dholbach> yofel: is your launchpad id yofel too? <yofel> yep <dholbach> super <persia> Thanks. <dholbach> done <yofel> thanks :D * persia pokes nigelbabu again <persia> Hey hyperair! <hyperair> hey persia =) <persia> hyperair: Would you be up for starting a bit early? nigelbabu doesn't seem to be about. We're down to 200 according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-reviewers and 309 acording to https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers/+subscribedbugs (from 201 at 11:00 and 330 at 10:00) <hyperair> heh? it's already review day? <hyperair> =O <hyperair> i need to be running at 9pm, though, it seems. <hyperair> that'd be in 1.5h * hyperair goes to grab some dinner first <persia> Of course, and you're listed as next on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay :) <persia> Of course, and you're listed as next on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay :) <hyperair> i swear i thought that was 24h from now. <persia> The 5th of May is creeping around the globe :) <hyperair> oh looks like i put my name in for today as well! <hyperair> =O <hyperair> okay i'll go look at things <persia> Looks like you're also scheduled for 24h from now. <hyperair> yes, i am * hyperair kicks java <hyperair> uh what do i do if launchpad decides to hate me today? <hyperair> it's been hating me a lot recently <persia> Ask for help? Lots of folks are active and doing stuff, so if you can't get somewhere, I'm sure someone else can. <persia> Main thing you need to do during your shift is make sure people know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-reviewers and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide and answer any questions that come up. <persia> also, maybe good to post statistics at the top of each hour, and make sure you coordinate with the next person on the schedule when the time comes. <hyperair> okay <persia> Thanks for starting early! <hyperair> persia: is there an easy way to filter only bugs affecting packages *i* can upload to? <nigelbabu> I'm here, sorry to be late <hyperair> \o/ <nigelbabu> hyperair: you're on now? <yofel> hi nigelbabu <nigelbabu> hey yof <hyperair> nigelbabu: no, you're on. <nigelbabu> hyperair: ok. the wiki shows you, since you covered for me, gladly <yofel> can someone double check bug 202009? IMO that's not a patch, but a scritpt that somehow workarounds the issue changing the default and user settings while at it <ubot3> Malone bug 202009 in grub "update-grub not updating menu.lst" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202009 <nigelbabu> heya yofel (didn't tab earlier) <persia> hyperair: Not that I know. <hyperair> persia: =( <r0tes_pf3rd> when do the patch-day start? <nigelbabu> r0tes_pf3rd: we've started already <r0tes_pf3rd> oh, cool <r0tes_pf3rd> how can i help? <nigelbabu> r0tes_pf3rd: You can help by reviewing patches. I'll point you the documentation so you can start off <nigelbabu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide <nigelbabu> 182 untouched bugs to go, so there's still plenty out there :) <r0tes_pf3rd> ok, i will look on the page <nigelbabu> yofel: I think we have something similar to that grub bug already <nigelbabu> i.e. a fix is already in I think <nigelbabu> from karmic on I remember only 1 kernel being displayed on boot <BlackZ> hey jono <nigelbabu> hyperair: you cool for next hour? <yofel> nigelbabu: well, I do remember the discussions about menu.lst not updating in karmic, but I'll leave the bug handling to someone that knows a bit more about grub, do you agree though that that's not a patch? <hyperair> nigelbabu: unfortunately not. got a meeting at 9pm (45min from now) <nigelbabu> hyperair: wait, so you're taking care of this hour or you want me to? <nigelbabu> yofel: agreed there, its a new script <hyperair> nigelbabu: er. up to you, which do you prefer? <jono> hey BlackZ <nigelbabu> hyperair: I did around 20 minutes to prepare a presention for UOW, either now or next hour <nigelbabu> s/did/need <hyperair> alright, go do it, i'll handle this hour =) <nigelbabu> hyperair: thank you, poke if you need something, I should be around :) <hyperair> nigelbabu: sure. * hyperair regrets not remembering set theory and curses java's weird transformation API <nigelbabu> anyone think its worth it to update review lead on topic? <nigelbabu> dholbach: about? * persia thinks it's not worth updating the /topic for every change, as it's likely to be more flexible than scheduled. <nigelbabu> yeah, hence I didn't d it <nigelbabu> do it <nigelbabu> hyperair: ok, taking over :) <nigelbabu> Folks, 180 bugs unreviewed in the queue. <nigelbabu> I'll be the review lead for the next few hours <nigelbabu> bdrung: I've been lazy to follow dep-3 on that metacity bug since I wanted someone to first test <nigelbabu> persia: do we want to advertise in -bugs and -motu every 6 hours or so? <nigelbabu> hello fschrat <persia> I'd say 4, but sure. <nigelbabu> persia: hm 4 is fine too :) <nigelbabu> malev: hey, nice to see you here, Patch day is today! * hyperair grumbles <fschrat> hello everyone <hyperair> i spent all my time trying to test that chkrootkit patch <hyperair> turns out chkrootkit hung trying to read /proc/kmsg <malev> hi nigelbabu ! I'll start in a few minutes <nigelbabu> hyperair: awesome <nigelbabu> fschrat: hey, welcome <nigelbabu> malev: great :) <nigelbabu> persia: can take a look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40823731/vncExtInit.cc.patch ? <nigelbabu> isn't the patch file formatted wronly ? <persia> No, just differently. We're used to looking at the output of `diff -u ...`: that's the output of `diff ...` <nigelbabu> oh, ah <nigelbabu> looks like I need to test tht bug <nigelbabu> what would be the call on bug 424927? leave it for jfo? <ubot3> Malone bug 424927 in linux "include CK patch set (BFS)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424927 <dholbach> nigelbabu: yes <persia> Indeed. It's in one of the blacklisted packages, but left over from before the blacklist was in place. <nigelbabu> oh, then I have some cleaning to do <nigelbabu> dholbach: you'll be around for my session right, just in case I cna't handle questions <dholbach> nigelbabu: around that time I was planning to meet somebody for dinner :-/ <dholbach> nigelbabu: what about bdmurray and james_w and bryce? <nigelbabu> dholbach: I'll talk to james <dholbach> better ping all of them :) <nigelbabu> yeah, good idea <nigelbabu> bdmurray, james_w: My UOW session on patch review is at 1700, if you folks can be around to help with questions, would be great :) <dholbach> nigelbabu: I have an idea for when the patch day is over: we could start making a list of bugs that were solved where the patch reviewers put some time into fixing them and we blog "the story of these patches" later on <dholbach> (a bit like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries) <nigelbabu> dholbach: I'm +1, I actually want to ask brian for a tar of all the mails in moderate on the patch review m/l during patch day <nigelbabu> moderation queue <nigelbabu> dat way we can know who did what <nigelbabu> Status update: 172 unreviewed bugs <nigelbabu> heya arand :) <arand> nigelbabu: Hello, hmm, I'm likely not going to be of much help, but I though I might listen and learn, it that is ok? <nigelbabu> arand: sure :) <nigelbabu> ok, good news <nigelbabu> we have gone below 170 mark <nigelbabu> 167 unreviewed bugs <nigelbabu> hello there dyfet <nigelbabu> would you like to help with patch review? <dyfet> I would be happy to try <nigelbabu> dyfet: great! you can go through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide <nigelbabu> please ask if you have any qiestions <nigelbabu> there is always a review lead here till the end of patch day <nigelbabu> heya qense <nigelbabu> we're down to 160 unreviewed bugs folks :) <qense> hi nigelbabu! <nigelbabu> qense: patch day today! <qense> My congratulations to the review team! <qense> aha! <nigelbabu> qense: another 40 hours or so to go <yofel> meh, what's the policy if someone adds an upstream patch to a bug? <qense> Huh? How long is your definition of a day? <nigelbabu> yofel: if its integrated upstream, add patch-accepted-upstream <yofel> ok <nigelbabu> qense: a day in all time zones, 49 hours <qense> Good idea :P <qense> So for my timezone the day's actually tomorrow! <nigelbabu> qense: haha <yofel> for me too, but who cares :P <nigelbabu> qense: see, you should be inspired by yofel :D <qense> I'm already working very hard on Mergimus! <qense> Even though it's not Write an App-day! <nigelbabu> qense: lol <nigelbabu> starcraftman: /ws 29 <nigelbabu> grrr <malev> anyone choose a patch as they want or there is a sort of order or something like that? <nigelbabu> malev: have you seen the query link on review guide <nigelbabu> just take a pick from that query <nigelbabu> it should show you all unreviewed patches <malev> this is the query: All open bugs with patches attached: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.s <malev> ubscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_patch=on&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on ? <malev> sorry, it's a big query <malev> I'm here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/KnowledgeBase <malev> and I take the query from there <nigelbabu> not that one, let me find it <nigelbabu> malev: click on query here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow <nigelbabu> malev: to start off you can go with bug 569469 <ubot3> Malone bug 569469 in update-manager "[lucid] program crashes when string "%s ago" is displayed" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569469 <nigelbabu> it seems easy enough <malev> nigelbabu, oks! going there <nigelbabu> malev: so, what do you make of the situation there <malev> I'm trying to reproduce the bug <malev> oh there is nothing to reproduce, it's only bad english :D <malev> gonna check the patch <malev> nigelbabu, which branch should I download to chech the patch? <nigelbabu> malev: I'm just checking tht up <nigelbabu> malev: https://launchpad.net/update-manager <malev> yes, but, if you go to branches, there are a lot! which onw <malev> the development? <malev> or the lucid? <malev> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager <nigelbabu> if you notice the bug, mvo talks about trunk <nigelbabu> so you should check the trunk brach <malev> cool <malev> nigelbabu, you are giving a talk in a few minutes? <nigelbabu> malev: the 3rd session today <nigelbabu> malev: if you didn't find the commit yet, its commit 1807 <malev> nigelbabu, I'm downloading the branch. It0's REALLY solw <nigelbabu> yes, because of maverick stuff <nigelbabu> malev: when hunting for commits, its easier on the web interface <malev> nigelbabu, might be, but, how can I test the patch if I don't use it? <nigelbabu> string changes are kinda easy to predict looking at the code :) <nigelbabu> bdrung: poke <yofel> anyone got a minute to look at bug 491940? would that be accepted or needswork o.O? LTSP seems to be happy with the patch, Chris not <ubot3> Malone bug 491940 in ltsp "Patch for LTSP clients to properly reboot/shutdown" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491940 <yofel> and are we seriously supposed to get subscribed just to package a patch? (not that I mind, I'm just not sure there) <nigelbabu> yofel: yes, thats part of we do <nigelbabu> packaging patches <malev> lauchpad is down? <yofel> good <nigelbabu> yofel: talk to chris and hear his take on it (especially after lxde accepted a similar patch) <nigelbabu> malev: checking <nigelbabu> malev: nope <malev> don't now is working <malev> nigelbabu, I donwload the trunk and it's on commit 1817 ten more than what the web site says... * nigelbabu stabs loggerhead <nigelbabu> malev: what is 1807 about? <malev> I'm with the patch of update-manager. I can't aply the patch. don't know why <malev> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Desktop/UpdateManager1.py.rej <malev> bzr: ERROR: Patch application failed <malev> I think I'm using a different branch <nigelbabu> malev: you can't apply because the code changed <nigelbabu> mvo applied another change to fix the same issue <nigelbabu> and second thing, look at the path you're trying to patch, it doesn't exsit <malev> that is what I was looking now! <malev> well, I'm going to try to create another patch with a good path :D <malev> I start enjoying this :D <nigelbabu> malev: you dont need to, it would still fail <nigelbabu> because like I said, mvo already fixed it :) <malev> ooo too bad <malev> then I'll close the bug :( <nigelbabu> no no <nigelbabu> just change tag to patch-rejected <nigelbabu> say in comments that another fix for this has been commited already <malev> because.. it's all ready fixed <malev> oks <malev> thanks <nigelbabu> getting a feel for the process now? <malev> haha <malev> I think <malev> there are some bug reports with doesn't has a patch attached but has the patch tag. should I delete the tag? <nigelbabu> bug number? <yofel> sometimes a patch is just pasted into a comment, check for those too, or the patch is upstream and only a link to the commit is given <nigelbabu> Status update: 155 bugs to be reviewed <malev> Hey I am in a BR that: It has a bug, but there is newer verstions in which it is fixed. so the OR recomend us to apply the patch or to update the version provided. what do you whink? <malev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-scipy/+bug/538774 <ubot3> Malone bug 538774 in python-scipy "scipy.io.loadmat() excessively slow (regression)" [Undecided,Fix committed] <nigelbabu> malev: there is not talk of an upstream commit, ask OP for a link to upstream commit to confirm its fixed <malev> nigelbabu, ok <nigelbabu> cyphermox: all yours in 10 minutes <nigelbabu> and be ready to handle a huge influx after the UOW session <cyphermox> yup <cyphermox> hi! <nigelbabu> status update, 154 unreviewed bugs <bdrung> nigelbabu: pong <lucasmocellin> hi <lucasmocellin> I'm customizing a Ubuntu distro for distance learning, and the main point is to apply online tests. I would like to know if there is someone involved to version control in Ubuntu, mainly related to "what/how it happens" when canonical upgrade a ubuntu version like from 9.10 to 10.04. I would like to upgrade my distro and keep an easy control of everything modified. <cyphermox> well, I have to get going, sorry I can't stick around longer <ajmitch> morning all :) <persia> cyphermox: Sorry about that. <persia> Good morning ajmitch <ajmitch> how's the patch day going? <ajmitch> I see you're booked in for an extra-long session now <persia> Depends on how one counts. Down to 277/175 bugs left to track 12 hours in. <persia> Yeah, seems like nobody else was up for being the named contact during these hours :) <ajmitch> sorry, it sort of falls in my work hours as well :) <persia> Understood. Mine too, but I don't mind answering some questions on IRC (and expect the number of folk around to be light for most of it) <ajmitch> yes, thanks for stepping up todo it <persia> nigelbabu has a handy way of helping people up the steps :) <persia> OOh. only 152 bugs by another count. I defintely need to use the right queries, I think. <ajmitch> which count are you using now? <persia> 152 is the number from the query at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow <ajmitch> ok, so that doesn't show the tasks fixed in ubuntu but still pending in debian, which is probably what we want <persia> It also doesn't show a lot of the bugs that have already been properly tagged and forwarded, etc. <ajmitch> I should clear up that krb5 one that I asked you about last night <ajmitch> and apt-xapian-index, I can ask upstream about that directly <ajmitch> it's useful to have a few active developers in the NZ loco channel <ajmitch> quite a few of us are DDs in there <persia> Indeed. <persia> I have to run off for a bit: I'll definitely answer any unanswered questions when I return. Apologies for anyone who gets stuck in the meantime. * ajmitch will be around, sort of <persia> Thanks :) #ubuntu-reviews 2010-05-05 <nigelbabu> Status update: 141 bugs :) <micahg> how much longer will people be around? <persia> uGH. cHANNEL FAILURE :( <nigelbabu> till tomorrow 1000 UTC <persia> And it's 0:00 UTC on Patch Day! As the 5th of May begins to cross the Atlantic, we've 141 bugs with patches left in the queue. <persia> That was supposed to be in *this* channel 10 minutes ago :( <nigelbabu> hehe :) * micahg might be able to do one or two in a couple hours <persia> micahg: The idea being that Patch Day is happening as long as it's 5th May *somewhere* on the planet. We're not geographically biased :) <persia> Cool! <persia> nigelbabu: Do you happen to have the count that is now 141 from before we started? <nigelbabu> persia: 183 or 185 <persia> So we're 23% done. Thanks. <nigelbabu> to think we had gotten down to 100 something a few weeks back and I worried about running out of bugs <persia> heh. There's always folks submitting new patches. * micahg needs to make a few SRU patches... <persia> Hey mannyv! <nhandler> Looks like I'm up in about 10 minutes <persia> If you like :) I thought you weren't scheduled for 0100 UTC until tomorrow. <nhandler> persia: Oh, you're right :) That works better for me, as I can get ClaseBot finished up for UOW-es ;) <persia> Heh, go for it. If you've time later, I'm unsure about how well I can cover the 0600-1000 span, but that may be too late for you. <arand> For Bug #538747 is patch-needswork and patch-forwarded-upstream appropriate? (and unsubscribe) -- Patch was sent upstream, where decision was made to delay inclusion until it was fixed up to handle both input and output of SI units. <ubot3> Malone bug 538747 in gparted "gparted should use SI prefix instead of IEC prefix as default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/538747 <ajmitch> looks like the count is slowly coming down <persia> arand: Looks right to me, yeah. <persia> ajmitch: slowly, but we're roughly on-trend. * ajmitch found one where he could do the debian upload & fix other bugs, takes some time :) <arand> Ah, one must be a prt of reviewers team to unsubscribe them, right? (If anyone would care to on above bug..) <persia> Sure. Done. <arand> thanks <micahg> so, what are the rules? <micahg> nigelbabu: do I need to be added to reviewers to do this? <persia> micahg: You don't. <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide are the rules <persia> There's a link ("query") under workflow that shows the pieces in play (currently 137) <persia> micahg: making sense to you? <micahg> persia: yeah, I'm looking at one now <persia> Cool. <micahg> persia: what if another team is supposed to review the patcg? <micahg> *patch <persia> Do you have an example? <micahg> like security team in the case of my bug <micahg> bug 570128 <ubot3> Malone bug 570128 in firefox-3.5 "apparmor profile blocks Sun Java plugin" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570128 <persia> Ah, good example. That's an Ubuntu-specific bug, so we need to push to Ubuntu. Yeah, coordinate with the security team on that one. <micahg> persia: can you unsub reviewers and I'll sub security? <persia> Sure. <persia> Do you know that the security team prefers to receive bugs by subscription? I'd hate to see that get lost. <micahg> yes <micahg> in this case <persia> OK. Just wanted to make sure. I don't know much about their procedures. <micahg> persia: yeah, I talked to jdstrand about these bugs, he usually jumps on them pretty fast <persia> Great, then it's just mistargeted. * ajmitch unsubs -reviewers from bug 570209, should get fixed in debian soonish <ubot3> Malone bug 570209 in muine "muine about page links to a domain squatter homepage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570209 <persia> \o/ <ajmitch> it needs an FTBFS fix anyway, easiest to do mono stuff in debian & sync it <micahg> can someone unsub reviewers from bug 512615 <ubot3> Malone bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 <persia> Sure. <persia> micahg: Was that patch ever sent upstream, or shouldn't it be for some reason? <micahg> persia: hmm, good question, I don't think upstream mozilla wants it, they'd prefer upstream cairo to get it <micahg> that's a whole mess <micahg> is -reviewers also a placeholder for upstreaming? <persia> That's primarily what we do, actually. <micahg> ok, good to know <persia> We don't presume to understand all the code, but we know how to test, and we know how to push upstream. So generally we confirm the bug, confirm the patch works, and make sure upsteam can review it to adopt or drop. <persia> If you want to handle this specific bug differently in your role as part of ubuntu-mozillateam, I'm happy to unsub the reviewers. If you want to get reviewers unsubbed by acting as a reviewer, it ought be upstreamed first, etc. so it doesn't get lost. <micahg> k, leave it there for now, what should really happen is the Ubuntu cairo patch get upstreamed <micahg> then we won't have to patch our source or mozilla's <persia> Then there should be an upstream cairo task on that bug :) <persia> Or is that a different bug? * persia reads the bug log harder <micahg> persia: different bug <micahg> freedesktop 10301 <ubot3> Freedesktop bug 10301 in freetype font backend "LCD filtering patch" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10301 <persia> Right. No point in us reviewing that bug then: it's all done. * persia unsubscribes <micahg> it was a hack that we were kinda forced to do since our system cairo is patched and mozilla wants us to use their cairo in the build <persia> Ugh, yeah. <micahg> if you can any mozilla stuff in teh queue, feel free to ping me * persia looks quick-like <micahg> I didn't see any in the list tonight <micahg> save the one we already took care of <persia> Dunno if bug #570812 counts :) <ubot3> Malone bug 570812 in chromium-browser "Use the ubuntu startpage by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570812 * micahg doesn't know chromium yet :/ <persia> I don't see anything else offhand. <micahg> k, if something comes up feel free to ping me <micahg> should I idle in here? <persia> If you like. If not, if we're pushing something into mozillateam, we'll come find you :) <persia> And if you have time, we'd always apprecitate help with reviewing other patches. <micahg> k, well, I feel I'm already spread too thin and after UDS, I'm going to have a lot more to do * micahg needs to learn to recruit and delegate <persia> OK. Stop by if you find time, or if you can reserve some for the occasional patch days. <micahg> k <persia> Just past 3:00 UTC, with 135 patches left to go. We're 37.1% done! <persia> Err, 27.1% (I can't do math) <ajmitch> doing wel so far <persia> A little below trend, but this is a historically slow time of day. I think we still have a chance. <ajmitch> bug 3179094 looks like nothing patch-worthy, it's just hardware info being collected <ajmitch> bug 317094 <ubot3> Malone bug 317094 in xf86-input-evtouch "meta bug to collect lshal touchscreen info" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317094 <ajmitch> hm <ajmitch> might help if I look at all 200+ comments * persia pokes ogra about it <ajmitch> it was autotagged as having a patch, nothing useful <ajmitch> I'll remove the tag & subscription * persia removes the patch flag from the evtouch_hal.out attachment <ajmitch> ah, I didn't spot you could do that <persia> On the right side, if you click "edit" for the attachments. When there's a patch, there's a special "patches" box with just patch attachments. <ajmitch> right, I'm just having LP timeout again <persia> Hey RAOF! <RAOF> persia: Yo! <persia> Today is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay so we're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow <persia> We're nearly 30% done with the current target query. <RAOF> Is that query the one from the Workflow wiki? <persia> Yep. <persia> 4:00 UTC on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay ! Only 133 bugs left to review. * ajmitch imagines that many of the easy ones disappear first <persia> heh <persia> Anyone have an opinion about whether the patch in bug #570908 is a reasonable solution? makes it unbootstrappable, but it's already bootstrapped, and the changelog can usefully hint how to rebootstrap. <ubot3> Malone bug 570908 in vala "Unable to build for PPA when there are patches to vala source" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570908 * ajmitch had looked at that, but didn't know what the ramifications of the change would be <persia> 5:00 UTC, and we're down to 130 bugs, meaning we're 29.8% complete! <persia> ajmitch: Yeah. Looks to me like it's just including the source as well as the built stuff as references, but I'm not sure it belongs upstream: feels like a distribution-bootstrapping-workaround thing to me. <ajmitch> working around the fact that we only have sourceful uploads <ajmitch> so not even needed for debian <ajmitch> (depending on whether they start throwing away binary uploads) <persia> Oh, right. Ubuntu-specific indeed. <persia> Actually, might be needed for Debian, as valac is Arch: any <persia> (unless someone constructs an N-architecture .changes file, but that's just madness) <ajmitch> what, like binary porters do? <ajmitch> ask lool about it, he's in Uploaders <persia> Good idea :) <ajmitch> though it looks like slomo does most of the vala uploads in debian <persia> I haven't seen slomo around in Ubuntu channels in ages though. <ajmitch> nor have I <ajmitch> time for me to get a bus home, I'll be back for more patching action soon <persia> Hey NCommander <NCommander> hey persia <persia> It's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay ! We're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow on submitted patches. <persia> About 30% done with our current target, but many hours to go. <micahg> persia: didn't we decide that apport bugs are reported in Ubuntu only or did that change? <persia> Oh, my mistake. I missed that decision. Feel free to Invalidate the usptream task :) * micahg searches for email <NCommander> persia: who's the best person for pointing someone at creating QA tools? <micahg> persia: idr where it is, maybe double check with hggdh in a few hours <persia> bug #569792 <ubot3> Malone bug 569792 in apport "wish, alternative available for apport-bug" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569792 * NCommander notes the retracer explodes if there's an upstream task attached <micahg> no, that I know :) <NCommander> well <NCommander> LP explodes <NCommander> Makes a nice traceback <persia> NCommander: Hrm? More detail is required, but you might want to ask in #ubuntu-quality to hit the right audience. <persia> Hrm. We're probably going to get in trouble for using ihodge@example.net at some point. That's *supposed* to be the Qatar LoCo list. <NCommander> persia: maybe move it to ubuntu-quality-assurance, and then give Qatar ubuntu-qa, or maybe just have qatar be ubuntu-loco-qa? <persia> Dunno. Not a battle I choose to fight now. When the Qatar LoCo team gets active, something will happen. Anyway, I've unsubscribed the reviewers from 552575 <NCommander> persia: hrm, I can't unsubscribe the reviews team per the wiki. <NCommander> persia: can you do that with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/klibc/+bug/527720 as well? I assigned myself to it as I have a personal interest in fixing it so I'll handle follow ups once the patch is tested <ubot3> Malone bug 527720 in klibc "thumb2 porting issues identified: klibc uses mov.*pc" [High,Won't fix] <NCommander> ... <NCommander> ugh <NCommander> I hate when that happens <persia> Sure. <NCommander> persia: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/537133 - here's another one. mountall is Ubuntu-specific (no separate upstream, no patch to forward) <ubot3> Malone bug 537133 in mountall "mountall issues with NFS root filesystem" [Medium,Confirmed] <persia> And here some of us thought all the easy ones were done already :) <NCommander> persia: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/433838 - another one we can remove, Ubuntu specific, no separate upstream <ubot3> Malone bug 433838 in software-center "Use an icon in the location bar" [Low,New] <persia> nigelbabu: What do you think about thse cases: should they get patch-forwarded-upstream? <maco> hi <persia> Hey maco! <maco> im looking at the bugs that are tagged as having patches accepted upstream and going "oh look thingies to sponsor!" <persia> It's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay ! We're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow on submitted patches. <persia> heh. That works too :) <maco> but umm... is maverick open yet? <persia> Although most of them would probably be better served by merge/sync at this pont. <maco> there's a merge that needs sponsored <persia> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=1 says you can upload, but it will wait until later to be processed. <persia> That will be empty from archive-open to archive-freeze <maco> yeah i looked at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/GettingInvolved and clicked the "bug query" link <maco> empty? <persia> Yes. UNAPPROVED only ever contains anything when the archive is frozen. <persia> If the archive is unfrozen, apprvoal is automatic, so it goes to NEW or ACCEPTED directly. * NCommander fires up a Debian chroot to test a bug <NCommander> persia: where's the handy forward to BTS script? <maco> ahh ok <persia> NCommander: submittodebian? * maco waits for maverick pbuilder to come into existence <maco> hmm intrepid's gone eh? guess i can nuke that one <maco> oh apparently i already did <persia> always good to plan in advance :) <maco> persia: are you one of the sru team people? <persia> I'm not. <maco> my brain seems unwilling to remember who's on which special teams beyond jdong is on sru team, scottk & riddell on release team, and cjwatson seemingly having every magical power available <persia> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members <persia> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+members <persia> etc. <porthose> persia, would you please add me to the Ubuntu-sponsors team :) <persia> (this is why we have a team management interface :p ) <persia> porthose: Sure. <porthose> persia, thx <maco> yeah i know :P ive looked at the sru team member list twice today. cjwatson & jdong were still the only ones that stuck <maco> and jdong sticks because ive been using #ubuntuforums and #ubuntuforums-mods to poke him on sru stuff for a long while :P <NCommander> persia: I thought we just had one for forwarding something to the BTS without a package <NCommander> persia: basically a bug CCer <persia> I don't know of any. The BTS doesn't like not having a package, version, etc. <maco> so pitti, slangasek, the 2 i know, and 2 i dont know. k. * ajmitch returns, is the list empty yet? <NCommander> persia: fair enough. You can unsubscribe https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distcc/+bug/511585 <ubot3> Malone bug 511585 in distcc "Unable to start pump server because of python version mismatch" [Medium,Confirmed] <maco> 125? <maco> is that down from the 1800? <maco> or is this a subset? <ajmitch> subset <persia> It's a subset. <maco> oh ok <persia> Down from 185 when patch day started though, so good progress. <persia> It's specifially all the new patches that haven't been reviewed since a magic date. <maco> i will poke akk with a pointy stick for her to help out <persia> if we run out, we'll move the magic date :) <persia> maco: Thanks! <maco> she's :( about bugs not getting fixed and i told her this is how she could help <ajmitch> if we run out, we've done something right <persia> Indeed. Getting the patches to the folks that can use them is key to getting the bugs fixed. <ajmitch> even if sometimes it's us wearing a different hat <maco> ajmitch: well part of this is getting the patches to upstream too <maco> because we likely dont want to hold the deltas forever <persia> The goal of the team is to get the patches to people who can use them. If people who can use patches join the team and get the patches directly, that also works :) <ajmitch> maco: I know, I'm talking about wearing a debian hat & fixing stuff there, while passing onto upstream :) <maco> ajmitch: oooh debian hat, i see. <maco> very spirally, looks nice on you ;-) <ajmitch> goes with the debian tartan, you know <maco> i saw they were getting more debian tartan for debconf this year <maco> but the options are kilt or necktie * ajmitch lives in a city where kilts are sometimes seen on the streets <persia> maco: Kinda, but most of it is about getting the patches *somewhere*: there's too many patches that get missed because nobody understands, etc. <maco> pretty sure i'd be considered a cross dresser if i wore either of those :P <maco> persia: taught akk a couple weeks ago about the magic of the sponsor queue <persia> maco: It's a matter of culture. Neckties are perfectly acceptable female attire here. <maco> persia: sailor suits! <ajmitch> kilts are worn as part of girl's school uniforms here, funnily enough <persia> Is one extreme example. <persia> here also. <ajmitch> the joys of living in a city settled by scots :) <maco> ajmitch: catholic school i went to had kilts in grades 4-8 for girls....or a skort... but they weren't tartan, they were solid navy <persia> kilt+necktie+shirt+optional sweater * ajmitch thinks we're almost off-topic here :) <maco> yep <persia> Only 125 left. Nearly one-third done! <persia> Unfortunately, I've run against a time-wall, and was scheduled for lots more hours as contact than I could do today (and wasn't able to rearrange things). <persia> If someone else could answer any questions from new folks for a while, I'd appreciate it. Extra points if you want to fill some of the blanks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay <persia> Also, if someone wouldn't mind posting the counts hourly or so: it would be nice to make a graph showing how well we did when PatchDay ends. <maco> if launchpadlib wasnt horribly scary, id suggest scripting that and running it hourly <persia> There is a script. It doesn't complete within an hour :) <maco> O_o <persia> The script does some other stuff too though, so maybe it's overcomplex :) <maco> still 125 <dholbach> good morning <ajmitch> morning dholbach <dholbach> hey ajmitch <nigelbabu> Hello folks, second day of patch day today! <nigelbabu> We have 122 open and unreviewed bugs in review queue waiting for review :) <nigelbabu> we need to deal with situation where we're going to go against upstream decisions <nigelb> hyperair: you're up next right? <hyperair> yeah <Guest54184> sorry, I'm out of power at home <dholbach> nigelbabu: how did the session go? <Guest54184> dholbach: it was nice, finished fast and too lots of questions <nigelb> now, thats better <nigelb> dholbach: send most of the development doubts to you ;) <nigelb> maco helped me with questions and thankfully the storm was out before the session <dholbach> awesome <nigelb> hyperair: do you have the number of bugs handy? <hyperair> nigelb: what number? <nigelb> hyperair: number of unreviewed bugs <nigelb> bdmurray: graphs a bit stale? <nigelb> maco: launchpadlib is not *that* scary <nigelb> well, here we go 121 bugs <nigelb> dholbach: thanks for the blog post yday ( I just read it today), perhaps I need to blog today about how much progress we made in 2 days <dholbach> nigelb: definitely <hyperair> nigelb: no i don't have a number. is it needed? <nigelb> hyperair: just post every hour, so we can look at the logs and make a graph for later <hyperair> okay <nigelb> helps identify fast hours and slow hours * nigelb adds blogging to list of things to do <hyperair> looks like my hours are going to be slow >_> <hyperair> launchpad hates me <hyperair> give it a query, wait 15 minutes for it to load... <hyperair> or it just won't ihodge@example.net. <nigelb> ouch, give me 15 mins, I'll check back home whts the situation <nigelb> if power is back, I'll do the posting for ya <hyperair> bah, i can't even get a list of bugs out <hyperair> =.=" <hyperair> okay, it seems there are 121 outstanding <persia> nigelbabu: How do you mean when we're going against upstream decisions? <nigelbabu> persia: no, sorry. my mistake <hyperair> persia, nigelbabu: what do i do when i encounter a patch that is not relevant? i.e. it works around the issue somewhere else rather than fixing it in the problematic app <persia> example? <hyperair> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/542240 <ubot3> Malone bug 542240 in gnome-themes "Icons clipped in the indicator applet" [Undecided,New] <hyperair> the patch patches the theme, but i think the issue is in indicator-applet <hyperair> as mentioned by the comment i just posted <persia> I'd say "patch-needswork" for that, if you're comfortable saying it's the wrong way to solve the issue. <persia> If you're unsure, pass it to upstream for a declaration. <nigelbabu> I hate a potential patch-rejected bug, but I fear backlash <nigelbabu> s/hate/have <hyperair> heh <hyperair> i know that feeling <persia> That's the nice thing about patch-needswork: it invites discussion. patch-rejected should only be used when it's confirmed wrong, and there's some other way to do it in process. <hyperair> (almost)hourly report: 115 bugs.. <nigelbabu> The bug is actually a Won't Fix thing <nigelbabu> so we took the middle path, marked it triaged and reported upstream <hyperair> lol <nigelbabu> upstream removed a feature and people want it back and naturally blame us <hyperair> i once had the misfortune of having to argue with someone about a graphical application logging information on the terminal. <nigelbabu> ouch <nigelbabu> I like upstream gnome devs attitude on bug trackers <nigelbabu> the moment you talk about offtopic or blame game on bugs, they will warn you, quite sternly <nigelbabu> when was the last time we spammed -bugs and -motu? <hyperair> heheh <nigelbabu> about time, wanna do the honors hyperair ? ;) <hyperair> nigelbabu: what honours? <hyperair> i did it 5 minutes ago. <hyperair> the hourly report thing <nigelbabu> ooh, nice :) <nigelbabu> no no, we just pop by and advertise in the -motu and -bugs channels every 4 hours <hyperair> o rly <hyperair> what do i advertise? <nigelbabu> Just a reminder, it's Patch Day. Anyone with some time to review patches and help get them in the right places is encouraged to stop by #ubuntu-reviews and help out. * hyperair copypastas * nigelbabu dents and tweets and facebooks <hyperair> there we go. <nigelbabu> heya geser, Nicke <Nicke> hello <nigelbabu> It's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay ! We're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow on submitted patches. <micahg> persia: security team picked up the apparmor bug this morning :) <persia> Great! <nigelbabu> amazing <hyperair> 112 bugs.. <nigelbabu> ooh, 70 bugs done :) <persia> 73! * nigelbabu fails in subtraction <persia> Which makes us 40% done. <hyperair> \o/ <persia> With 21 hours to go, we're still roughly on-target if we can maintain a rate of 6 patches reviewed an hour. <hyperair> cool <persia> Which is only one every ten minutes. We can do this! <dholbach> persia: how many did you do already? :) <persia> I didn't count. 10 or so. * dholbach did a few during patch day lite, but just one during patch day <persia> There's plenty more :) <dholbach> yeah <persia> And not just the hard ones. ajmitch and I had thought the easy ones were gone, and NCommander stopped by and processed 3-4 with just bug tag adjustment. <persia> So I suspect there are other ones that are being well-managed, and just not using our procedure (and which therefore show up as "needing review") <nigelbabu> A couple of easy bugs if soeone wants to have a go <nigelbabu> bug 568402, bug 540342 <ubot3> Malone bug 568402 in qt4-x11 "Qt displays half width character as full width in some Japanese fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568402 <ubot3> Malone bug 540342 in lintian "Lintian strings scripts cannot handle spaces in path names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540342 * hyperair would be faster if only launchpad responded better <yofel> hm, about bug 520919: that's a packaging change request that's waiting for a r-base MIR, and it's already assigned to nixternal, here's no upstream involvement at all <ubot3> Malone bug 520919 in kdeedu "Cantor is missing possibility to add R backend" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520919 * persia knocks out 568402 <nigelbabu> I think the HIG complaiancy patches are okay to get in <nigelbabu> Just making the text complaint with upstream HIG, like bug 555213 <ubot3> Malone bug 555213 in hundredpapercuts "Make printer jobs viewer HIG compliant" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555213 <nigelbabu> thoughts? <persia> I used to think that, but seb128 pointed out that 99% of the time upstream was happy to take them, and it's painful to carry the divergence. <persia> So I'd recommend pushing those upstream, rather than seeking to get them into Ubuntu. <nigelbabu> ok, so anyone wats an easy bug, piack that one, just send upstream :) <nigelbabu> Also, someone can just forward bug 491940 upstream <ubot3> Malone bug 491940 in ltsp "Patch for LTSP clients to properly reboot/shutdown" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491940 <nigelbabu> so many easy bugs waiting to be picked <bdrung> hyperair, nigelbabu: i have to do some work. it would be nice if someone could take the responsibility for the 1700 UTC slot to give me one more hour. <hyperair> 17 + 8 = 25.. <hyperair> sure no problem <henne91> hi <hyperair> hello henne91. <henne91> ok I'm pretty new to this <bdrung> hyperair: thanks. your day has 25 hours? ;) <nigelbabu> bdrung: ouch, I have a very early slot <nigelbabu> oh well, the rockstar is here :) <nigelbabu> woo hyperair ! <hyperair> bdrung: it fluctuates between 12 and 48 ;-) <persia> henne91: So we're following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow :
{'channel': 'ubuntu-reviews', 'month': 5}