#ubuntu-on-air 2012-07-18 <not_found> just saw the announcement <not_found> :D <popey> didn't know this channel existed <popey> have you pre-booked a hangout-on-air in G+yet? <popey> If you make an event in Google+, under the advanced link you can make it a hangout on air, once that's done we can just point directly to that <popey> AlanBell, done a second test... <AlanBell> that looks better <popey> but its a hangout, not on air :( <AlanBell> ah, so it is <AlanBell> so you need to be able to do more of a host thing with it <popey> I was wondering how to get ubuntuonair.com to link to the hangout.. before the event i could link to the event in G+.. <popey> and when the event starts, just redirect it to the youtube page <popey> whoever runs the on air needs to stay online for all of it I think <popey> sorry, i dont know if you guys have discussed this already, only just found this channel <AlanBell> nothing to do with me, I just read the post jose did about it <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/onair.svg JoseeAntonioR pleia2 <--- <JoseeAntonioR> popey: thanks! I'll change it soon <JoseeAntonioR> we've already discussed all of that, can you please check the link in the topic? <popey> the link in the top is a calendar.. <JoseeAntonioR> popey: ok, if you click in one of the events, you'll see there's a link field <popey> ok <JoseeAntonioR> we'll start the hangout two minutes before so the link displays in the topic <popey> ok <popey> i registered ubuntuonair.com, could embed youtube on that page to make it easier for people to get to? <popey> or have the logo there which links to whatever is the right hangout url or whatever <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/ <- simple like that? <popey> could add a bit below the logo embedding the youtube page / video. woudln't take much :) <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/logo.png is a png version of the logo <JoseeAntonioR> That'd be great, if you could do that <JoseeAntonioR> ok, once i get home I'll change the logo in the post <JoseeAntonioR> that's only a provisional one <JoseeAntonioR> btw, we've already got logging <popey> great <popey> I'll add this channel to my list, just ping me if you want anything done with the site <JoseeAntonioR> well, exam is on the way, I'll be back in 'round an hour <popey> o/ <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks! <popey> JoseeAntonioR, when you get to it.. could you mention the logo was made by Andrew Higginson and link to http://and471.deviantart.com/ <popey> thanks <nhandler> popey: FYI, mhall119 created this wiki page based on their experience with g+ hangouts/on air: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/OnAir <popey> interesting <popey> thanks nhandler <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GSGWZcyt5-8 <popey> that video gives a nice way to do what we want to achivee <popey> basically create a hangout event in advance.. but dont put a url, then 15 mins before the show, create a hangout but don't "broadcast" and copy/paste the youtube embed url into the event which will update everyone <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/ like that? <popey> its a wordpress site so I could give everyone responsible taking part rights to change that page, anyone can just insert a yt embed <popey> that way we have a friendly url etc <not_found> question... what exactly is this? <popey> not_found, "this"? <not_found> popey, ubuntu-on-air... or more precise, what is going to be aired? <popey> the idea is to have a google hangout at certain points during the release of ubuntu <popey> which are hangouts on air, so anyone can tune in live <not_found> ah ok... I have done one of those mass hangouts... <not_found> cool :) - a move away from IRC <popey> nope <popey> in addition to irc <not_found> popey, ok, covering all basis... <not_found> :) <JoseeAntonioR> popey: ok, now at home, logo updated <popey> hiya JoseeAntonioR <JoseeAntonioR> popey: maybe we can get onair.ubuntu.com to redirect to ubuntuonair.com <popey> i dont think we need to for now <JoseeAntonioR> got it :) <popey> happy to set anyone up an account on that wordpress site, and then anyone can just put the embedded youtube link in and you're done <popey> then there's only one URL we need to publish <popey> could also have a link to the calendar too <JoseeAntonioR> popey: would you mind a PM? <popey> sure <JoseeAntonioR> popey: hey, do you know who can make the widget for the next session in... ? <popey> yeah, I'll do that <popey> it's easy enough <popey> we have a similar "upcoming" calendar on the ubuntu uk podcast, I'll copy that <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/ <popey> like that JoseeAntonioR > <popey> ? <popey> link to that from the front page? <JoseeAntonioR> oh, that'd be great <JoseeAntonioR> or maybe a tab <popey> sure, a link from the top, I'll fix that <JoseeAntonioR> like those we have in ubuntu.com <popey> hmm, created menu, not sure why it doesn't appear <popey> i need to go make some food, back in a bit <JoseeAntonioR> ok! #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-01 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-02 <dholbach> good morning <ilyes39> hi <ilyes39> ubuntu is the best <ilyes39> i wanna ask something please <ilyes39> ? <lubuntu> I saw it on facebook. <Guest98828> Long life to Linux ! <andrew> hiiiiiiiiiiiii <andrew> hiiiiiiiii <Arfphis> hello <vinfinity> sup guise? <Guest98828> hello guys <Battaglin> hui <Battaglin> hi* even <kunjappi> ubuntu 13.10 <kunjappi> when it release <kunjappi> waiting for that <Battaglin> yup <semiguel1998> Alguien Habla espaÃ±ol <tegnel> ok <xubuntuisbetter> yo <blydro> Better be on time today.... <xubuntuisbetter> thats negative <xubuntuisbetter> this is ubuntu, only thing in schedule r da releases <pritz> Hi @ <dholbach> are we live? :) <redkiwi> ka <netcurli> I can see you <Battaglin> yup <SimonK1> i see you <xubuntuisbetter> i can see you <redkiwi> live <dholbach> jono, looks like we're live :) <xubuntuisbetter> sexy <jdrab> yes <Richie442> yay! <dholbach> :-D <jdrab> we see you! <jdrab> :D <dddkiddd> i can see you <Acil> i can see :) <tegnel> so it my firt way to be hear <Battaglin> I seee you... ( Shakin that a.. ) :-P <austin_powers_12> yep! <ZionPTM> Can't watch on YouTube for Android. :( <pritz> ok...everything clear! looks to be live! <dholbach> if you ask questions, please make sure you prefix them with QUESTION: so they standout <jdrab> awesome <SimonK1> QUESTION: is wayland like qt 2 Years ago? So is it just not "good enough" atm or is it like gnome-shell, to which Ubuntu won't switch "back"? <Battaglin> thnx <Siper> wat <janepatrick> a good update <mutahhar> hi everyboy <kgunn> http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8 <janepatrick> good one * janepatrick slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout <jono> get your questions in folks <jono> type 'QUESTION' and then your question <krrish> Hye <Siper> QUESTION <blydro> yes? <SimonK1> QUESTION: how is "click" handling architectures x86, armhf and multi-arch? <cheerockie> Hello everyone <kgunn> SimonK1: wrt your earlier question about wayland, i wouldn't want to draw on any historical analogies or go into any expansion on reasons that have already been discussed at length about our choice, but rather just a statement that our efforts are going into mir <Ravinj> Can we have Ubuntu supporting 3D printing <docwes> Hi all <SimonK1> kgunn, i see <Siper> QUESTION: What about Mir? <kgunn> SimonK1: wrt click..I'm not completely certain what you're after...can you rephrase/expand maybe ? <kgunn> Siper: in the next hour (top of the hour) we're going to have an expanded session on mir <dholbach> kgunn, I'll take SimonK1's question <SimonK1> QUESTION: [rephrased] do I, as a developer, have to pack one click-package per supported architecture? <dholbach> (and answer in a bit once we get to the Q&A) <kgunn> dholbach: SimonK1 sorry....thot it was a ques about "click" like mouse input :) sorry <unixpablo> I have to many problems with the X11 and a think that the Wayland will go to the same way. <jono> get your questions in folks :-) <unixpablo> So I support 100% the Mir project. Congratulation to the Ubuntu. <SimonK1> QUESTION: [rephrased] If I'm developing a huge app, do I have to upload my data-files for every architecture with my "click"-package? <dholbach> SimonK1, short answer: initially yes, implementation of "fat packages" (shipping code for multiple architectures in one package) is still being discussed - one good summary of the current discussion here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00067.html <dholbach> in the first incarnation of click and the appstore you'll have to upload them separately AFAIK, but make yourself heard on the mailing list - just join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-appstore-developers <jono> any other questions, folks? <jono> I will go through them in a second <jdrab> QUESTION: in Canonicals individual contribution agreement ( http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I.pdf ) - section 2.3 there is this line "We may license the Contribution under any license, including copyleft,permissive, commercial, or proprietary licenses." Can you explain how this applies to mir and unity if someone from "community" contributes to mir or unity? According to CAL it possible for <jdrab> Canonical to lock this software under some proprietary license,right? I'm asking because of some FUD out there. <who_me> QUESTION: How will switching from open-source video drivers to proprietary ones work since Mir will probably only work on the open-source ones in 13.10. Will it be easy to revert back from proprietary to open-source ones? <mramm> QUESTION: (just a reminder) What is the charm championship? How much can I win, and how can I find out more? <jdrab> mramm: https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/P5SGqTwxBKm <who_me> QUESTION: Are there plans to add never versions of proprietary video drivers to Ubuntu 12.04 to support newer cards from Nvidia (the 700 series) and AMD? <SimonK1> QUESTION: Are "click"-packages build to expand the "requested api"s? Now we have "Ubuntu-SDK" how likely will this change? <dholbach> SimonK1, I'm not sure what "requested api's" means? <kgunn> who_me: wrt open source vs proprietary drivers on mir, the current xmir has a fallback mechanism which will continue boot in "standalone X" if it discovers you have drivers that aren't supporting the mir driver model <jdrab> QUESTION: how do i get rid of that second cursor in xmir? :) <SimonK1> dholbach: the "one depency", which this package has. All "click"-packages are (currently) depending on ubuntu-sdk <SimonK1> QUESTION: Am I currently able to listen to mp3 via ubuntu-music-app? <dholbach> SimonK1, ah yes - to be honest, I'm not quite sure how additional (non-SDK dependencies) are being handled - I think last I heard was something about bundling, but I can find out for you <kgunn> jdrab: i'm not a lawyer, but i believe the spirit wrt licensing is about discouraging fragmentation <jdrab> SimonK1: you have a lot of questions :D <dholbach> as I said: a good place to ask is the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-appstore-developers mailing list <SimonK1> jdrab, I've missed the last one by one hour :( <SimonK1> because of UTC to MET confusion <kgunn> jdrab: wrt second cursor, working on it :)....however its a nice cheap way to know your on xmir :) <jdrab> kgunn: i personaly think that the software is safe if it's under gnu gpl but there are a lot of trolls and ugly people out there who will bash canonical because of CAL :] <SimonK1> dholbach, I know about the "bundling"-plans. What I'm asking about is an older idea of "Frameworks" (QT-Framework, GTK-Framework, SDL-Framework, ...) <dholbach> SimonK1, I don't know about any of these, I'm afraid <mramm> https://juju.ubuntu.com/charm-championship/ <SimonK1> dholbach, i see... Maybe this is just something that will pop up then^^ <SimonK1> * pop up later then <Chirag> why still we need OS to install manually... why it couldnt be on cloud so we can login easily and operate our data.... <unixpablo> When the friend-app will come to the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I won't use a version no-LTS of this system, is to hard for me. <unixpablo> ? <SimonK1> QUESTION: What FPS-difference (in percentage) between XMir and X.org are planed for 13.10 (see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_xmir_benchmark&num=1 for background infos) <Chirag> New LTS release is better or worst than 12.04 <jdrab> kgunn: so that second cursor in xmir, is it supposed to move on different speed than the primary one? :D <Chirag> in 12.04 many issues and lot's of bugs found afterwards <BobbieD> QUESTION: Is there a list of the supported video driver MIR will support on Ubuntu? I have an old Radeon HD 5400 <jdrab> wee 2hours that's awesome 8) <cooldudeabhi> about gaming on ubuntu: every dev is producing games for windows but its still to hard to install games like gta4 with wine.....are u guys planning to launch an app with mount .exe better so everyone can easily switch over to ubuntu completly? <SimonK1> Oha, someone is hitting the keyboard^^ <Chirag> libreoffice has lots of issues ... please ssolved it first <Ika> QUESTION how will mir compare to X in terms of game performance? <who_me> QUESTION: Will Qt and GTK support Mir or will Canonical have to maintain separate patches? <Blastodon> is the youtube window stuck on the circle loading screen for anyone else? <jdrab> Blastodon: nope <Billynkid> Blastodon:not here <Blastodon> well let me refresh <Blastodon> Ok now it's saying please stand by <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will I have one big XMir window, with "emulated sub-windows" on my Mir-Desktop (like starting wine with an emulated desktop resolution) or will every Window be a window composized/decorated by Mir? <kgunn> SimonK1: you can think in xmir its still x with compiz as you windowmgr/compositor....with mir as an addition, being a system-compositor (e.g. greeter & desktop could not be blended nicely, flicker free start) <kgunn> Ika: we do plan to add bypass composition so hopefully it will be roughly the same...from an overhead perspective the game has to do its rendering bit via gl...composition bypass simply allows for avoiding what ends up being a full screen copy (read/write of pixels)...this is kind of standard industry fare <SimonK1> kgunn, i fear my question wasn't as clear as i hoped: If I have an "legacy - application" running on XMir, which has 2 Windows, will Mir just show something like a "virtual desktop" with 2 windows, decorated by "compiz"? <RAOF> SimonK1: From Mir's perspective (at the moment) XMir is just a single big fullscreen window. <Ika> sounds like a bad turn for linux gaming <SimonK1> RAOF, i see _= <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will every fullscreen-game be able to ruin my desktop-resolution if the game segfaults, like in X? <slangasek> Ika: gaming will typically be full-screen and use the bypass feature olli mentioned will be implemented <slangasek> as RAOF is currently describing :) <olli> slangasek, we have quite some lag between stream and IRC I believe <slangasek> quite possibly! hello, greetings from the future <olli> tvoss, pls share your diffstat again <olli> this is to support xmir impact on vanilla x <tvoss> olli, here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797514/ <jdrab> QUESTION: can you explain the difference for me as a user when using server allocated buffers in mir and client allocated buffers aka "how the wayland is doing it" ? mir is using server allocated buffers because of arm right? <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will I be able to set a color-profile per monitor? <SimonK1> QUESTION: Is Mir tested against FPS- or Powerusage-regressions? <HappyHoward> @jdrab wayland can do server side buffer allocation too. <SimonK1> QUESTION: If Mir is more strickt with inputs and outputs. Will this restrict the VNC/Teamviewer-usage? <jdrab> HappyHoward: hmm didn't know about it <SimonK1> QUESTION: Is the "middle-click-past" of selected text available in Mir? <RAOF> SimonK1: Shell-dependent. In XMir? Sure. For Unity8 we probably won't have three separate clipboard mechanisms, though âº <RAOF> jdrab: There's no difference as a user between server allocated and client allocated buffer. <slangasek> oh no, you're not getting rid of middle-click paste in Unity 8?! <SimonK1> :( that is the reason why i can't use Win8 anymore^^ <slangasek> I may have to rethink my support of this strategy now ;-) <SimonK1> @slangasek we have to start a revolt^^ <slangasek> SimonK1: nah, I just have to convince RAOF to keep middle-click paste support, just without the multiple different clipboards ;-) <SimonK1> ... no revolt? sad panda^^ <beuno> YES <beuno> no more multiple clipboards FTW <Richie442> QUESTION: Is there any possible chance, that 13.10 ( Mir and XMir with open- source drivers) will increase the performance of Ubuntu desktop respectively Unity 7? <Klau3> Will 13.10 provide a flicker free boot and shutdown? <slangasek> Richie442: it's possible, but any such result would be a fluke; the fact that Mir + XMir + Unity 7 still uses the existing X APIs means it will still have the same performance limitations as Unity 7 today - the performance limitations that generated interest in converting to a new architecture in the first place <kgunn> Richie442: nope, it'll in effect be the same, you still have the full x stack there...xmir is just a system comp <SimonK1> @slangasek, i fear I don't know "clipboards" this well. are "Middle-Click" and "Ctrl+V" two clipboards? or is "Middle-Click" by itself multiple clipboards? <slangasek> SimonK1: the mouse cursor left-click-drag highlight, middle-click paste is one clipboard in X; ^C+^V is a different one <slangasek> and some applications sync the two <slangasek> but it's application-dependent <SimonK1> I see <kgunn> Klau3: flicker free is on the todo list, admittedly we're focusing on a couple of other things first...multimonitor, composition bypass <Klau3> cool <beuno> slangasek, and what are the chances that'll also fix the "copy from an app, close the app, loose the clipboard" problem? <SimonK1> @slangasek, so if they are merged "^C + ^V" will do exactly the same as "Middle-Click"? <kgunn> Klau3: something we/i want...just not quite ready to make a commitment statement here <slangasek> beuno: I'm not the person to speak to that :) <slangasek> SimonK1: that's the idea, yes <RAOF> beuno: If we *don't* solve that problem it'll be a big. <RAOF> s/big/bug/ <HappyHoward> QUESTION: Earlier you said you would break API/ABI at your whim. Is this still true? <beuno> RAOF, woooooo! you'll close an early 5 digit bug! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334 <SimonK1> hm, thats sad though <beuno> RAOF, and become my instant best friend <RAOF> HappyHoward: I don't think we said that at all? <beuno> I'll let my current best friend know their status is at risk <HappyHoward> What did you sy then? <popey> \o/ FINALLY! I'll have Ubuntu on my fridge! <tvoss> popey, ;) <beuno> RAOF, so I can assign that bug to you? ;) <RAOF> HappyHoward: That we don't support a *protocol* , and we make no guarantees that we won't break the protocol. <HappyHoward> QUESTION: Regarding the API/ABI stability what is your stance. That may be a better question. <RAOF> HappyHoward: Our API/ABI will stabilise and then we won't break it. <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will plymouth be using Mir? (I heared rumors^^) <slangasek> SimonK1: we hope so <slangasek> the code is yet to be written :) <HappyHoward> RAOF: The protocol part sounds fine, since it's internal to mir. <beuno> mramm, has the best hair in this hangout <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will I still be able to configure my Wacom? I'm using xsetwacom <tvoss> slangasek, oh, we have a plymouth integration patch :) <tvoss> slangasek, it was our test-bed for non-accelerated clients <slangasek> tvoss: oh, hmm! merge proposal on lp:ubuntu/plymouth, please <tvoss> slangasek, +1 :) <slangasek> robert_ancell had sent me a link to some code, but implied that it wasn't ready for prime time yet <tvoss> slangasek, I will check with alf :) <slangasek> ok, cool <Nicolascage> I switched to ubuntu and i'm loving it, thanks guitar and glasses dude! (forgot your name, sorry!) <beuno> lol jono ^ <who_me> QUESTION: Will Mir make it easier for people trying to write a screen recording application? <glome> QUESTION: Does Mir use server or client side window decorations? <slangasek> jono: sorry, that's the sound of my laptop taking off because I don't have Unity 8 here yet to reduce its power consumption <popey> hah, i can hear someone's laptop about to take off.. <jono> slangasek, :-) <popey> Go Google hangout plugin, go! <who_me> thanks, this has been great <popey> nice work guys <jdrab> wee awesome 2hours <Richie442> nice :) <Richie442> Bye all... :) #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-03 <dholbach> good morning <jono> hey folks <hippyjake> hi jono! <FlyingPig> hi jono :) <jono> howdy :-) <sdk> YEAH ! <FlyingPig> woohoo <hippyjake> your on! <JoshStrobl> We can see you streaming <hippyjake> intertubes <drparny> Aye! <Kouakou> We see you .. !!! <pinguy> I can see you on the interwebs <Jarrick> Hello! <JoshStrobl> Bacon, you're on... <FMGrungekid> Good evening, sire! <pinguy> Question: Ubuntu touch have any hardware vendors yet? If not have you tried Sony? They are very open and are willing to support open source. They are working on a FireFox OS phone. <hippyjake> QUESTION? What are the advantages to the new click package? <FlyingPig> QUESTION: The last Q&A on the ubuntu on air Youtube channel is from April 24th, are there any plans to upload the more recent Q&As? <sebsebseb> ok in ehre now, was seeing video first :d <Kouakou> QUESTION: I barely got my 4 monitors to work on Ubuntu albeit with issues .. what has MIR got to offer those of us with multiple (read more than 2 ) monitors ?? <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: While this question may have been answered before, would you consider the Mir display server an alpha or go as far as to say it is a pre-alpha stage, considering it still utilizes an X compatibility layer? (Hence XMir). <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: Would Mir solve issues related to dynamic graphic card switching, even per application. X11 still requires a restart of the X.Org session. <jono> http://insights.ubuntu.com/articles/blogs/differentiation-without-fragmentation/ <drparny> QUESTION: I'm a bit new here. So, what is canonical doing to make available apps for Ubuntu Touch? say like firefox, whatsapp etc etc? <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What are your comments about the lead developer of Kubuntu formally a Canonical employee saying that Kubuntu won't be supporting Mir at all, making that quite clear in fact, X and then Wayland later on. <binmosa> Will Ubuntu touch have cloud services, such as what exists in Android? What make it unique and different from Android ? <jdrab> QUESTION: are there any plans to transfer openid service from launchpad to ubuntu one? <hippyjake> QUESTION: Who is the American operator that signed on? <JoshStrobl> hippyjake -> Doubtful they can reveal that at this moment in time :\ <drparny> QUESTION: Will ubuntu phones be available as said? (on awesome H/W hopefully)? I'm holding myself from getting Android ones :( :D <hippyjake> I just heard him say something to that effect JoshStrodl thanks <pinguy> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu Touch use a PPA system for apps? <Guest3018> QUESTION: What are typical customization options for carriers in Ubuntu Touch? <pinguy> QUESTION: What is the state of Ubuntu TV? I haven't heard much about that. Same as Ubuntu for Android. Are these projects now abandonware? <xyzabc> QUESTION: Will 14.04 lts use xmir+unity7 or mir+unity8 by default? Thanks! <naum> question: can you recompile most of the kde and gnome packages under Mir? Do you even need to do that? <pinguy> So Mir doesn't work with Unity 7 so you need another layer to make it work (xMir)? Isn't this going to cause all sorts of problems? This will be a nightmare to fix bugs as it won't be clear if its an bug with xMir or Mir. <naum> question: When Unity8 under Mir becomes available as a preview in 13.10 will we be able to run "old" apps with xmir? <jdrab> naum: please use CAPS for 'question' it will be easier for jono to spot your questions ;) <naum> :( <naum> okay <number22> QUESTION: what will be fate of ubuntu brainstorm <naum> i forgot about that <jdrab> number22: it's dead afaik :D <diska> when we will see first phone in europe? <pinguy> QUESTION: Now Ubuntu is using Mir, is Compiz dead? <pinguy> I saw this coming Months ago with Mir. I spoke to Mark about it here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116915640151584325691/posts/5fkV79YY62o?cfem=1 <drparny> I mean will ubuntu phones be available in october as Mark said? Will be it available in the US? <drparny> QUESTION: Will ubuntu phones be available in october as Mark said? Will be it available in the US? <naum> QUESTION: What about services/apps from major companies, e.g., Google, Netflix, etc.? <naum> QUESTION: On Ubuntu Phone. <pinguy> Isn't scopes still mainly place holders? <number22> QUESTION: do you have any idea about the green dragon that mark shuttleworth uses on his blog/g+ etc <pinguy> http://insights.ubuntu.com/articles/blogs/differentiation-without-fragmentation/ <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Unity 8 is the re done QT/QML Unity? <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Do you think Nvidia will have their drivers ready for Mir by 14.04? <pinguy> Anyone having problems with the stream? <binmosa> What about developing for Ubuntu on other platform (Windows - Mac ) ? Is it only available using Ubuntu ? <sebsebseb> QUESTION: 15 minutes guitar time, if not enough questions? :d <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Mark has a plane? :O <jdrab> :D <xfg> QUESTION: metalica or megadeth? <FMGrungekid> QUESTION: What did you think of Man of Steel? <jdrab> QUESTION: why is mark posting photos on google plus from iphone? :] <pinguy> QUESTION: how long did it take to grow that awesome beard :) <drparny> QUESTION: I understand canonical is in discussion with operators about Ubuntu for Android. So can we expect the source code and binaries available for specific hardware after they release one or few tailored handsets? <Anil> Is python still preferred language for development on Ubuntu, like stated in that tutorial about quickly (which I can't find anymore)? <micah2> QUESTION: outside of the core apps, what are the applications that you feel will be most important to helping Ubuntu Touch launch with a bang? <Jarrick> How about an update on your BBQ action. ;) <D_shipp> Ok so my question is you were saying the carriers will be bale to customize touch they way they want it to look will we be able to undo or change what they do so we do not have to love with what they do. <binmosa> My question didn't appear ? <binmosa> What about developing for Ubuntu on other platform (Windows - Mac ) ? Is it only available using Ubuntu ? <jdrab> jono: there's no one behhind you today :| <jdrab> as usual :D <theblackdog> what kind of architecture will the hi-low end phone version be? (ARM, x68, x64) and whats about launching desktop aplications on the phone <theblackdog> and a yes for guitar ;) <pinguy> QUESTION: Not sure if you can answer this, but 3 network in the UK has an odd 3G network. When I was making an android ROM I had to work on enabling AMR-WB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35463164#post35463164 <PipIWYG> I might come onto this late, but I was wondering... I seem to struggle to run the unity-next release, which I had running fine before on 12.10. Any tips? <mhall119> theblackdog: I don't see x86/64 phones taking off any time soon <mhall119> PipIWYG: you need to be on Ubuntu 13.10 to develop and run Unity 8 <PipIWYG> ok. tks <pinguy> lol <ubuntourist> QUESTION: Mark DOESN'T have his own private spacecraft? ;-) <number22> QUESTION: beard or moustache <sebsebseb> First guitar vote. Guitar! <number22> +guitar <micah2> you should try the mustache! <pulu_> yes guitar <pinguy> QUESTION: My bad lol. Do you have anyone working on Modems for Ubuntu Touch. Each network work on their own. But the 3 network uses an odd bandwidth. <Anil> Is python still preferred language for development on Ubuntu, like stated in that tutorial about quickly (which I can't find anymore)? <pulu_> QUESTION: is there some reasoning behind the fact that there is so little customisation offered on unity? Why stuff on unity tweak-tool are not included default? <Will87> QUESTION: Is python still preferred language for development on Ubuntu, like stated in that tutorial about quickly (which I can't find anymore)? <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Have you ever used MacOS X? <sebsebseb> Will87: Python is the prefered sure <sebsebseb> FlyingPig: of course he has <sebsebseb> FlyingPig: oh thought you put heard, but he's probably used it before <pinguy> QUESTION: Request, Hotel California <mhall119> Anil: C++ or QML are the prefered languages for writing apps <bvincent> can apt-get be used for more then installing stuff <mhall119> C is the prefered language for writing scopes <mhall119> bvincent: it can be used for removing stuff too :) <bvincent> oh <naum> QUESTION: whose idea was ubuntuonair? Why? Are the other canonical developers happy about answering questions from the crowd that much in the open? <mhall119> naum: there is now a weekly on-air with Canonical engineers to answer questions about what they're working on <Anil> OK now I'm confused :) Which one is the way to go? Python / C / C++ / QML <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Will there ever be a double flavor of your Q&A again? <bvincent> can you make a new type of login screen for ubuntu <Anil> so QML... <Will87> yup <ubuntourist> Anil & Will87: Consider looking at the tutorials at http://developer.ubuntu.com/ <pinguy> Jono had the same problem with my family with Gnome 2.3. They kept deleting icons for the top bar including the Menu icon <mhall119> Anil: if you want to write apps for the desktop *and* phone, go with QML <pinguy> they are shy :) <Will87> QUESTION: Unity 8: What is the factor that decides if its tablet/desktop view? Screen resolution? Hardware? <bvincent> can you make a login screen <pinguy> QUESTION: ever thought about making the Q&A open on G+ hangout? <naum> QUESTION: any ideas on how to make ubuntuonair more interesting to news reporters? <number22> QUESTION: whats on lunch <pinguy> So anyone can join <naum> yeah, what's for lunch <bvincent> can you make a login screen with a sdk <pinguy> yes that what I meant <Will87> QUESTION: Unity 8 What happens with high res tablets? for example: 2560*1600 vs desktop 1920*1080 <naum> bon appetit <jdrab> Will87: yes <bvincent> thank you <pinguy> oh wow. 2hr went quick <jdrab> Will87: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9AzRxsnfTE <pinguy> *oh wow. 2hr went quickly <mhall119> Will87: Unity 8 uses resolution independent "grid units" for sizes, so on high-pixel-density screens it will use more pixels-per-gridunit <mhall119> so it will be the same physical size <Will87> thanks <Yuki> hello <pinguy> Thanks jono for the QA. Nice to know you are still involved with the community <sebsebseb> pinguy: of course he is, it's his job <pinguy> sebsebseb, lol, true <jono> thanks! <pinguy> sebsebseb, Well at least it gave me the option to talk about Sony being involved with Open Source and that they need to look into AMR-WB <pinguy> Something Canonical need to look into but hard to talk to them about <pinguy> Doing this Q&A I am hoping jono go's away and looks into it <pinguy> jono, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate_Wideband <pinguy> http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/05/09/sony-working-on-premium-firefox-os-handset/ <pinguy> Better link for sony: http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/02/27/experimental-firefox-os-software-for-xperia-e-available-for-developers-rom/ <sebsebseb> pinguy: I think Sony generaly don't care much about Linux etc <pinguy> sebsebseb, you are joking right? <sebsebseb> pinguy: I mean take the PS3 and the Linux option being removed thing for example <pinguy> sebsebseb, that was because you could hack the PS3 using the Other OS option <pinguy> Thats why it was removed <sebsebseb> I think Sony aren't that popular in the phone market to, and so yes may support things like FIrefox OS and even Ubuntu Phone for that matter, whatever it takes for them to become a bit bigger of a name basicaly <sebsebseb> pinguy: plus the FSF has boycott Sony stickers and what not even, becasue of certian bad stuff they have done in the past, the rootkit thing etc <sebsebseb> plus why are theo Sony Vaio's so expensive? they aren't that great really, in fact I broke on years ago <pinguy> sebsebseb, I do some work on XDA, not much but some. Sony are by far the most open company I have dealt with. They released the kernel sources for the Sony Z before the phone was even released <sebsebseb> maybe so, but Intel are open to with drivers for that. also Sony is a OEM as well, but where are those pre installed Desktop LInux systems for example, right there aren't any as far as I know <ichhabegrosseeie> yo <sebsebseb> pinguy: to be honest I don't think many of these companies care much about free software, as in from a moral software advantages point of view, it's just open source for them really, a good developmetn model possbily that can make them more money <sebsebseb> ichhabegrosseeie: hi <ichhabegrosseeie> well, I'm out <ichhabegrosseeie> good bye <pinguy> Sony are one of the few people that let you unlock your phone with the imei <pinguy> They have a page setup on their site <sebsebseb> pinguy: companies arne't people, they are however groups of people <pinguy> sebsebseb, I know. But you get what I mean <sebsebseb> altough someone did say to me the other day that apparnatly in USA, comapnies are known as people now or whatever he was saying hmm <sebsebseb> pinguy: Sony have done some quite bad things in the past the rootkit thing etc. Sony like most companies lock people into their products or try to. the Blueray players, the PS3 etc etc. at the end of the day companies like that don't really care that much about our freedoms if at all really, they just care about making more money etc <pinguy> sebsebseb, Network providers force Sony to lock the bootloader. But they have a page on their site on how to unlock it: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions <sebsebseb> also mobile phones are quite propritary/commerical not that open really etc in general <sebsebseb> and that's why I hope Firefox OS and Ubuntu Phone will succede <pinguy> sebsebseb, you do know that network providers will tell Firefox OS and Ubuntu Touch that they will need away to lock the bootloader? <sebsebseb> there will be certaine requirements sure, since how that market is like <pinguy> Sony, Android etc. want to be open, but network providers tell them if they don't lock down the hardware and OS they they won't sell the phones <pinguy> It's sad, but it is how it is <sebsebseb> well that's the kind of stuff that happens when money sucking companies are in charge of things! <pinguy> It's why Sony have made it as simple as possible to be able to unlock their phones. <sebsebseb> pinguy: it's the kind of reason why Richard Stallman will refues to use a phone :d <sebsebseb> or his own anyway <pinguy> Samsung are the same <sebsebseb> pinguy: it's sad that phones are nothing, but products really <sebsebseb> there isn't really a phone project if you get what I mean <sebsebseb> a project and a product being differnet <sebsebseb> in this context <pinguy> All Samsung hardware is open. The kernel is fully open-sourced <pinguy> It's the network providers that lock down the phone <pinguy> I have been involved in mobile phone for the last 6 months or so. I do believe desktop PC will die out and will only be used to develop programs on. <sebsebseb> pinguy: I think lap tops and desktop pc's are here to stay for man years to come <pinguy> Because of this I am doing a lot of work with Android. But I am hoping Ubuntu Touch does well so I can start work on that <sebsebseb> ,but yes tablets and phones are starting to become more popular realy <pinguy> At the moment I honestly believe Ubuntu Touch won't do all that well. There is somethings I like about it, but overall it has nothing on Android at the moment. But it is a VERY early OS. <pinguy> One thing I love about Ubuntu Touch is the light client feature. Where you can plug the phone into a TV or monitor and have a Full OS <pinguy> At the moment that isn't part of Ubuntu Touch. But when it is, it will be a killer feature <pinguy> I bought the Atrix HD just because I could run a full OS off of my phone <pinguy> they where way ahead for the times <pinguy> It was called Wedtop <pinguy> *webtop <pinguy> Here is a video showing it off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWORT8-jyoo <pinguy> In that video. everything that is being shown is from a phone that was released February 22, 2011 <pinguy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G <pinguy> Webtop was ground breaking at the time. I don't think people really understood how ground breaking it was at the time <pinguy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G#Webtop <pinguy> It was a shame. I wanted to work on Webtop. The code is open-sourced ( http://sourceforge.net/motorola/motorola-webtop/home/Home/ ) but the kernel to get it working wasn't. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919735 <pinguy> on XDA I am pinguy1982 <pinguy> http://supportmymoto.com/ <wamari> yeaaaaaaah!!!! <wamari> when do you expect ubuntu phone to be released? <wamari> QUESTION: when do you expect ubuntu phone to be released, what specifications be reuqired to run it? <Guest82339> how to develop any application thats works on desktop and even in mobile <Guest82339> ? #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-04 <mainmeister> Yes you look good <guille> Si! <dholbach> good morning <boom> hey folks <fr33r1d3> isn't it suppost to start now? <bvincent> i can <bvincent> do you do other software <bvincent> Questionâ: do you do other software <bvincent> it will #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-05 <ashima> To learn minimum and useful commands for ubuntu #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-07 <it> test it <vamshi> hello <vamshi> speak few lines on ubuntu mobile os #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-08 <dholbach> good morning #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-09 <dholbach> good morning <olli> jono, can see you <netcurli> I can see you <dholbach> mhall119, here :) <mhall119> \o/ <BobbieD> I can see you <darkdawn> I can too <Richie442> Yes :).. everything is okey <sameer4> is this live <darkdawn> yes its live <sameer4> ok cool <sameer4> how are they streaming this <sameer4> google hangout <mhall119> sameer4: it's an on-air hangout,they broadcast via youtube <sameer4> really how <mhall119> it's part of Google Hangouts <sameer4> i see <sameer4> cool <mhall119> indeed :) <sameer4> how do i get unbuntu on my verizon driod razor <sameer4> also what does airbot do <sameer4> ! <mhall119> you probably can't, droid devices aren't easily hacked and Ubuntu Touch doesn't support CDMA networks yet anyway <dholbach> oh... and if you have questions! <dholbach> please ask with QUESTION: in capital letters in front of your question <kgunn> http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8 <dholbach> jono, might be worth mentioning ^ <jono> dholbach, will do <dholbach> rock <kgunn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/Mir <kgunn> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/ <pino85> Is Ubuntu for mobile completed? <mhall119> pino85: no, this is an update on our progress <mhall119> also, if you have a question start it with "QUESTION: " <pino85> oh sorry <Jman23500> Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <mhall119> if you have a question start it with "QUESTION: " <sameer4> Question <Jman23500> Question: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <sameer4> Crixis we should totally do something like live stream <sameer4> maybe using hangout <pino85> QUESTION: today what is spoken here? <Jman23500> Question: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <Crixis> Hello <UbuPhillup> hallo Crixis <Crixis> Yeah yeah <Crixis> Hello ubuphillup <mhall119> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/overview-ubuntu-sdk.html <Crixis> Sameer what up you master of chaos <sameer4> nothing much <Crixis> Hows the bot <sameer4> good <Crixis> You are officially The Lord of Chaos <popey> Note: I have not been playing games all day! :D <Jman23500> Question: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <Crixis> Lol <dholbach> Jman23500, the question will be picked up after the round of updates is done <Jman23500> ok <Jman23500> thanks <Crixis> Gotta go <Crixis> Quit <UbuPhillup> Terminal is not translated! <mhall119> UbuPhillup: the console part or the QML parts? <Jman23500> QUESTION: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <UbuPhillup> mhall119: QML <mhall119> UbuPhillup: please file a bug, we have a meeting later this week and I'll bring it up <UbuPhillup> mhall119: only this: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps <dholbach> (sorry, fell out of the internet) <dholbach> QUESTION: What are the info graphics? What's all part of it? <UbuPhillup> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1199461 <mhall119> thanks UbuPhillup <dholbach> thanks <mooshi-baer> What about a chat client (jabber/xmpp)? Any plans? <Jman23500> QUESTION: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <UbuPhillup> mooshi-baer: if you have a question start it with "QUESTION: " <ahayzen> QUESTION: Is there any way of running Mir in a virtual machine yet? If not when is this expected to work? <mooshi-baer> QUESTION: What about a chat client (jabber/xmpp)? Any plans? <Jman23500> QUESTION: Can you make Ubuntu more visually impaired accessible? <jono> any more questions? <kgunn> ahayzen: have you given the mir demos or xmir a shot on your laptop yet ? <Jman23500> QUESTION: Can you bring gnome 2 back? <UbuPhillup> QUESTION: Wenn are all core-apps translatable? <Jman23500> QUESTION: Can you bring gnome 2 back? <mhall119> no, gnome 2 is dead, it's own developers buried it <mhall119> UbuPhillup: I will follow up on that this week <UbuPhillup> jo okey thanks alot mhall119 <mhall119> np <ahayzen> kgunn, i tried getting it to work in VMWare but ended up with a blank screen, i may have done something wrong not sure. I wasn't sure if the GPU would need to be passed through to the guest, hence not using KVM? <JHOSMAN> Hello! =) <kgunn> ahayzen: are you on open source drivers ? <kgunn> w/in your virt box <ahayzen> ahayzen, i've got Intel hardware but wasn't sure of VMWare cause it wanted to install the guest additions (probably proprietary)...do you think KVM will work? <ahayzen> kgunn, ^^ (sent it to myself lol) <kgunn> ahayzen: np....i know we use kvm monitors in our testing racks...so yeah, it should <kgunn> e.g. we've run xmir testing there alreadya <ahayzen> kgunn, ok i'll give it a try :) <rpesg> I can see you <Baconable> i can see you, thats a pretty mouth you have there <sameer4> is the live finished <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu Touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? <dmiller309> I can see you. Also, thanks for accepting my app into the Software Center! <dmiller309> Is parallel download (like apt-fast) going to come to the software center? <dmiller309> Does 4G work? <dmiller309> QUESTION: Did you say that you forked malloc()? #ubuntu-on-air 2013-07-10 <dimaonline> yo <wtfANDY> I GOT A QUESTIONNNN <The> HI Ladies <The> how are you ? <LostKayaker> Yep, I can see you. <The> Yes hello <amp> Yes Bacon! <datradiance> We see you <luk_asz> Yes, I can C U <pulu_> Yes bacon! <LostKayaker> Yes, ICNCU <The> Yes i can see you <The> i like your t-shirt :p <testis> is it qorking ? <micah2> QUESTION: Is it possible to write scopes that utilize a user's login credentials? For example a scope that returns private dropbox files. <amp> QUESTION: What is the plan for docking-the-phone-booting-the-desktop in 13.10, and 14.04? <CaseyB> QUESTION: Do you know when you're going to start releasing Ubuntu Touch images for additional phones? <wtfANDY> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu be part of the Half-Life 3 Projkect?? <pulu_> QUESTION: I heard that there is terminal available in ubuntu touch. Is there some difference between touch-terminal and desktop one? As in is there something I can do in desktop and can't do on touch <LostKayaker> QUESTION: With the revelations on NSA/spying, and the subsequent loss of privacy, is there any change in thinking around full HD and/or file level encryption? <datradiance> QUESTION: Will there will be major production changes when Ubuntu moves to releases every two years? <CaseyB> QUESTION: I am very excited about Mir. How well do you feel you'll be able to compete with OSX? <scott-work> QUESTION: when is the next album coming out? <sebsebseb> hi <pulu_> QUESTION: Is there something in unity/ubuntu that you would change if it was up to you? Something in other desktops and distros that is better? <LostKayaker> It is actually much more involved and complex than just "metadata". Metadata is actually data....the use of that term is to try to deflate the concern amongst the citizenry. <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What's the t-shirt today, and is that just a blue cap? <micah2> QUESTION: A lot of people are getting upset about Mir, do you think it is even remotely possible that Mir will hurt Ubuntu's quality or cause headaches for application devs? <LostKayaker> I'll reach out on the developers list. Thanks. <carterclan> QUESTION: If Ubuntu touch is successful do you envisage the desktop version to become more popular or do you feel like others that the desktop is dying and becoming irrelevant. <LostKayaker> QUESTION: Any thoughts on features/function of QEMU/KVM in the near future? <Cracknel> QUESTION: Our loco (Ubuntu-RO) has received an email about a month ago regarding a conference named "Internet and Mobile World" that will take place in Romania sometime in October. They needed someone to talk about Ubuntu on mobile devices. Have they contacted you? Any info regarding an Ubuntu/Canonical presence at this event? <dshimer> QUESTION: What will you be doing at Ohio Linux Fest? <sebsebseb> QUESTION: The big train news what do you think of that? What about the plane news as well? <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Do you think you are slightly naughtey for having a t-shirt with swearing on it? heh heh such as the one your wearing <sg1asgard> hi all <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? Â¿AdemÃ¡s del Nexus se podrÃ¡ instalar Ubuntu en otro hardware? <sg1asgard> Is there a foreseeable future when Ubuntu will have Adobe having builds for it? <sebsebseb> sg1asgard: put QUESTION: <sebsebseb> sg1asgard: QUESTION: your question <sebsebseb> sg1asgard: and no need to pm about that <sg1asgard> ok, I understand <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? Â¿AdemÃ¡s del Nexus se podrÃ¡ instalar Ubuntu en otro hardware? <sg1asgard> QUESTION: Is there a foreseeable future when Ubuntu will have Adobe having builds for it? How can we speed this up? <hans> QUESTION: can you ask matthiew from the design team to publish guidelines for ubuntu touch icons? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? Â¿AdemÃ¡s del Nexus se podrÃ¡ instalar Ubuntu en otro hardware? <b1ackcr0w> QUESTION What new revenue streams will Ubuntu Touch open for the Ubuntu Project? <Pantalaimon9469> Â¿Ubuntu touch estarÃ¡ disponible en MÃ©xico? Â¿AdemÃ¡s del Nexus se podrÃ¡ instalar Ubuntu en otro hardware? <b1ackcr0w> to translate the question submitted in spanish.. Ubuntu? Touch will be available in Mexico? Nexus? Addition ubuntu can be installed on other hardware? <b1ackcr0w> Shot of Pal has no swearing in it :) <sg1asgard> tahnk you :) <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Oriely has an event coming up soon I belive, what you doing at that? <b1ackcr0w> shotofpal.me.uk <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Half an hour or so of gutiar, if out of or lacking questions? :d <Pantalaimon9469> QUESTION: I'm sorry, but I've had some problems in Rhythmbox and in Totem. I use Ubuntu 13.04 and I can't solve this. <carterclan> QUESTION: Did you see that Ubuntu touch got a mention and a small clip of it in use on BBC's Click programme. <b1ackcr0w> QUESTION: I'm interested in the revenue stream thing because of the politics for the developers cut of the app sales, I believe Apple's scheme is unfair. So I was wondering how much discussion has been going on to ensure fairness to devs has been going on? <b1ackcr0w> Pantalaimon9469: http://www.ubuntu.com/support is the best place to start to get help <pulu_> yes to guitar! <sebsebseb> yes to guitar <sg1asgard> Enter Sandman in this case \m/ :D <hans> no to guitar <Pantalaimon9469> I've had problems with the webapps integration in Ubuntu 13.04 and in Ubuntu 12.10, something is wrong, I think. <xwheelsx> yes guitar <nixxd> yes to guitar <UbuPhillup> No to guitar ;) <Munnu> no to guitar! <sebsebseb> leave at the end if you don't want guitar :D <Pantalaimon9469> I've had problems with the webapps integration in Ubuntu 13.04 and in Ubuntu 12.10, something is wrong, I think. <b1ackcr0w> Thx, it's good to know. A strong "Selling" point, qdos to the chaps 4 that <sg1asgard> QUESTION: do you have suggestions on how the community help Ubuntu ? <sg1asgard> for the near future <b1ackcr0w> You going to sing? <carterclan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b036zdhg/Click_06_07_2013/ goto 17.04 mins <Markcortbass> question: Is it possible that android apps will run in Ubuntu phone with a Dalvik VM port? Or will this slowdown the performance? <amp> QUESTION: Why not Unity 8 in 14.04? <CaseyB> QUESTION: What kind of tools are going to be available for developers to target multiple screen sizes? <sebsebseb> amp: oh thought would be, but I guess 7 is more develoepd so that's your answer :d <suckmydick> why ubuntu didn't support boardcom wi-fi cards <sg1asgard> \m/ :D brings back memories <sg1asgard> QUESTION: regarding latest developments form Steam for OpenGL, are we QUESTION: seeing a transition in gaming industry soon? what's your opinion on this? <cheerockie> Hi Jono !!! <cheerockie> Please stop playing ;) <sebsebseb> more like keep playing :d <Pantalaimon9469> Why not Unity 8 in Ubuntu 14.04? :( <hans> QUESTION: what do you think of CRYTEK developing cryengine for linux <sebsebseb> hans: DId you ever use Cygwin hans question is making me think of that for some reason. <sebsebseb> whoops should have done QUESTION: <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Did you ever use Cygwin hans
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