#ubuntu-budgie 2017-01-10
<foli> just testing logging
<Menzador> Hello
<foli> Menzador: hi, just setting up the log bot for you
<Menzador> Cool.
<foli> here are the ubuntulogs terms: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
<foli> logs should show up here soon: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/01/10/
<foli> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/01/10/%23ubuntu-budgie.html
<foli> enjoy!
<Menzador> Thank you!
<elky> foli: thanks :)
<fossfreedom> thanks for the loggin. suppose will need to wait until we can setup the TOPIC etc?
<fossfreedom> **logging
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-01-21
<bashfulrobot> ...
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-01-27
<jbicha> wow, not many people here :)
<jbicha> besides me, we've got a bot, elky and two fossfreedom's
<jbicha> One reason metapackages use a lot of Depends instead of just Recommends is to avoid odd things like bug 1635801
<fossfreedom_> jbica: aye ... split personality ;P
<fossfreedom_> jbica: so meta-packages should be ALL depends i.e. don't use ( ... ) syntax?
<fossfreedom_> jbicha: ... would be helpful if I could actually type your handle!
<jbicha> you can still use recommends but use depends for the stuff that users should definitely still have installed
<fossfreedom_> makes sense
<jbicha> the line is fuzzy though as there's disagreement about what users should be able to uninstall but still benefit from the metapackage
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-01-30
<rania> hi
<niyasc> Hi,
<niyasc> Just checking out IRC.
<fossfreedom_> aye - and welcome niyasc !
<niyasc> Thank you, btw, do you think that, we need to include irc icon on bottom of welcome app? Or just on chat room page.
<fossfreedom_> think we should include it at the bottom as well - here is a support channel
<fossfreedom_> niyasc: unlike gitter though - I think in the chat room page probably need a one line to say "remember to stay logged in (our use an IRC bouncer) because you will not be notified of any replies"
<fossfreedom_> ... or something along those lines.
#ubuntu-budgie 2017-01-31
<rania> good afternoon :-D
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-01
<NoCode> Hi, whenever I try to alt+f2 a search comes up but cannot run commands. How can I get this enabled like any other DE?
<jaak> Hello! I spend the afternoon trying to change the wallpaper on the login screen (not the lock screen). Right now the only thing I achieved is changing the color (by changing /etc/lightdm/slick-greeter.conf) but no image ever shows. I am stuck. Any idea ?
<jaak> (Am I even at the right place to ask ?)
<jaak> background=/path/to/image.jpg is correctly set as well.
<fossfreedom> NoCode, Alt+F2 just launches applications.  I think there is an enhancement request on the upstream tracker but its waiting for an awesome person to implement it.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-04
<cleary> Hi all - I'm a recent Budgie convert from Australia
<cleary> I work for a large winemaking company, we run linux on about 80% of our desktops, and I'm looking to deploy Budgie as our default DE with ubuntu 18.04
<cleary> Obviously as a fairly new DE there's not a huge amount of doco around, so I was hoping to have a chat to someone about default customisations for the Desktop
<cleary> My previous testing was done on gnome3 vanilla, and the vast majority of customisation was provided via a gschema override in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/
<cleary> I'm beginning down the same path with Budgie, and just trying a simple relocation of the panel to the bottom by default
<cleary> but it's not working - so I was hoping I could talk to someone who can point m ein the right direction for assistance?
<grip929> hello
<joek_> hello
<joek_> Can anyone help me with a boot problem?
<joek_> this channel is total rubbish
<joek_> exit
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-05
<NoCode> Hi, is there a temperature applet for the budgie-panel?
<fossfreedom> NoCode, for the weather?  yes - use budgie-welcome - software - budgie-applets
<NoCode> Don't see anything there. hmmm
<fossfreedom> what version of UB are you running NoCode ?
<NoCode> 16.04 version
<fossfreedom> ah  - its only compatible with 17.04 and later
<fossfreedom> you can use an appindicator to display the weather
<fossfreedom> myweather probably
<NoCode> kk
<NoCode> I wonder if I could use a PPA to get latest budgie?
<fossfreedom> you are already on the latest budgie - 10.4
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-06
<NoCode> Hi, I've into a weird thing with 16.04. Usually I install JACK, do realtime audio, so that means I add my user to the audio and realtime group, etc.. But, /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf. suggests I only have 64 with ulimit -l. What else can do I do to get it to unlimited?
<fossfreedom> NoCode, this sounds more like a generic linux type question.  probably better on a wider audience forum like ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-07
<NoCode> fossfreedom: tbh, this is how I've always set up my system. But this install seems to be different/changed. I'll ask elsewhere.
<NoCode> Okay, I've found that the session manager isn't hooking into PAM properly. In Budgie, ulimit -l" suggests 64. While I've set it to unlimited. I've logged into virtual console to get "ulimit -d" which suggests unlimited. How can I fix this issue?
<NoCode> Does Budgie use Lightdm as default?
<deepak_hp> Hello
<Cl4ra-fr> Hello everyone
<Cl4ra-fr> I just installed ubuntu budgie, it's great, but i have a problem :(
<Cl4ra-fr> I installed gnome-boxes in order to have some VMs but i can't manage to make my mouse and keyboard work inside of these VM
<NoCode> Still having issues even try to see if gdm would fix the issue
<NoCode> trying*
<NoCode> I'm memlock'd to 64 in Budgie. But virtual console I craighoward@example.net.
<NoCode> So instead of /etc/pam.d/common-session, I put session required pam_limits.so in /etc/pam.d/systemd-user. memlock has changed from 64 to unlimited. Hopefully that's the proper way to fix it.
<fossfreedom> NoCode, yes - the greeter is a lightdm greeter called "slick greeter"
<fossfreedom> the session manager is gnome-session
<dlaube_de> is there any reason for network manager being a dependency for budgie-desktop?
<dlaube_de> i feel like even the minimal package has too many dependencies that are not required
<fossfreedom> dlaube_de, that is an upstream issue - the network applet is specifically coded to display in the system tray.  It isnt optional in its current coded form.
<NoCode> I'm glad with all the changes I had to endow the last day, everything has worked well. No meltdown yet.
<fossfreedom> sounds like good news NoCode
<NoCode> I hope so
<NoCode> fossfreedom: That PAM change in systemd-user, does that sound right?
<fossfreedom> sorry - I'm not an SME in this area so cannot say if its correct or not correct.
<NoCode> ah ok
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-08
<dlaube_de> fossfreedom, but replacing it with a dummy package didn't hurt the system. i don't want the nm because i set up the network staticly with /etc/network/interfaces
<NoCode> I'd love to see a customizable window grid plugin for budgie for the desktop.
<fossfreedom> NoCode, its something we have discussed previously.  Would love to work a like minded developer to make it happen.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-15
<Dani1973> Â¡Â¡..Good Nigths, Esteemed Authorities Developers of Ubuntu Desktop Budgie..!! Computer company.  S / D            Of my greatest consideration, the one who subscribes Poelstra, Daniel Armando, I live in the surroundings of Buenos Aires (Argentina).  I'm a computer teacher, thank God for several years, but lately I've been researching several operating systems.  I loved it, liked your Linux Ubuntu Budgie Desktop Operating S
<mpmc> Well, that's interesting. No sound, Budgie completely disappears! Just have plank running :o
<mpmc> Ok, reboot seems to have fixed it.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-16
<DK_> hi guys, i have a question regarding 17.10: ive had issues on all tested ubuntu versions with my lenovo trackpad, it felt as if the pointer was moving on a rather coarse grid (maybe 2mm on the screen). is this a known problem and is there a chance for it being resolved in upcoming releases? so far i am using ubuntu budgie 16.04 and really liking it, keep up the good work
<DK_> no one around?
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-18
<Zaliek> I'm trying to figure out where to report a bug with Plank but I can't seem to find a bug tracker for it. The problem happens in multiple distros and desktop environments
<fossfreedom> Zaliek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+filebug
<Zaliek> Thanks!
<Zaliek> Does ubuntu-budgie maintain their own release of Plank? I notice that the anchor icon doesn't show up in budgie but it does in other distros
<fossfreedom> no - its the package in the main ubuntu repositories
<Zaliek> Oh so it's some sort of configuration change?
<fossfreedom> no - the anchor icon only appears when you open plank-preferences
<Zaliek> weird. it's always there in other distros
<Zaliek> at least the ones I've tried
<fossfreedom> hmm - odd
<Zaliek> I'm really liking budgie so far but there's a few UI pain points I've ran into
<fossfreedom> like?
<Zaliek> The biggest thing is the UI settings are handled by multiple separate settings apps, some of which don't show up in the settings section
<fossfreedom> GNOME bits under gnome-control-center - budgie specifics under Budgie Settings.  Seems reasonable
<Zaliek> I can understand why it's like that, but it would be nice if Plank Settings & Budgie Desktop Settings were both listed under Preferences in the main menu
<fossfreedom> Plank isn't a budgie desktop component.  So not possible.  Forking stuff to play with UI stuff is just a bad idea.  You lose the investment added by upstream work as soon as you fork.
<Zaliek> Can't add an extra shortcut to them there in addition to the default behavior?
<fossfreedom> not without forking the software
<fossfreedom> patching software possibly
<fossfreedom> but would need to find a willing developer to do this.
<Zaliek> Hmm so I'm in the menu editor and it looks like you can't add stuff to the settings section
<fossfreedom> menulibre ?
<Zaliek> Not sure, it's called "Menu Editor" in Preferences section
<fossfreedom> just select the section then click the + button on the window header
<Zaliek> Weird I tried to move Plank Preferences into the system tools section and instead of it moving it there it created an identical section called system tools at the bottom of the list with that name
<Zaliek> Btw how do I take screenshots in budgie? prtscrn doesn't seem to do anything
<fossfreedom> Zaliek, just run gnome-screenshot or install the budgie screenshot applet from budgie-welcome
<Zaliek> Thanks for your help. I'm going to play around some more
<fossfreedom> yw
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-21
<ronald123> hi all, i might have a really odd question.. I'm running budgie-remix (fully updated Ubuntu 16.04.3) and there are quit a few programs wich i can't close from the tray. I can right-click on them and choose quit/exit/whatever, but it just won't quit
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-23
<jergas> Hello!
<jergas> I have an Ubuntu Budgie installation based on Ubuntu 17.04. I was trying to update the software and noticed support is gone and the repos are down. I changed sources.list to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com, and the Software Updater is offering me an upgrade to Ubuntu 17.10, but what I would really like is to upgrade Ubuntu Budgie, rather than vanilla Ubuntu. Can I do that? How?
<bashfulrobot> jergas - have a look at the release notes for 17.10 - we outlined the process for each of the previous versions.
<bashfulrobot> https://ubuntubudgie.org/blog/2017/09/25/17-10-release-notes
<bashfulrobot> jergas: were you by chance the person I helped on Twitter with this? Just curious if it was one and the same. Found it funny that I had a similar request twice in one day.
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-24
<alexsson> I fucked up my /etc/apt/sources.list
<alexsson> Anyone have a copy of it to show?
<alexsson> I am on 17.04 and my release file got deleted and could not upgrade to 17.10, so then I modified /etc/apt/sources.list and now everything is fucked up.
<alexsson> *Release file for 17.04
<bashfulrobot> alexsson I personally do not have a copy (been off of .04 for some time). I'll see if we can dig it up.
<bashfulrobot> alexsson you can try this.
<bashfulrobot> Remove the corrupted one
<bashfulrobot> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list
<bashfulrobot> Open software-properties-gtk
<bashfulrobot> sudo -i software-properties-gtk
<bashfulrobot> oops.... meant to send you the link:
<bashfulrobot> https://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-28
<japa> So wondering if I can get some assistance regarding my install usb it's not installing grub it tries to install it on "dm" ill have to be home tonight to confirm the full message
<fossfreedom> japa you need to set the usb device as the place to install grub - a good run through describing this is here http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/install-real-ubuntu-os-usb-drive/
<japa> Why is the boot drive where to install grub if it'll be on my pc?
<japa> Just out of curiosity since thats not something I've ever heard of. I'm reimaging
<fossfreedom> if you are installing everything on the USB stick - the USB stick needs to have grub.
<japa> I'm installing to pc from Ian
<japa> Usb*
<fossfreedom> k - write your usb flash drive from the ISO using something like etcher.  It will correctly install everything to enable you to boot from USB to install onto  a PC
<japa> I actually used either
<japa> Etcher*
<japa> That's what's weird the setting up the iso on usb was successful but when installing it throws an error trying to install the bootloader
<fossfreedom> have you got four primary partitions on the hard-drive?
<japa> It's not in front of me so not sure.
<fossfreedom> maybe that's the issue - you can't have more than four primary partitions
<japa> Thanks. Hadn't thought of that weird that I wouldn't. I will check this when I get home. I was going to bring it to work to work on but I forgot it.
<japa> I was hoping it would be a relatively simple fix
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-29
<japa2> Hey still trying to install this with no luck it gives me an error when trying to install the bootloader says something about cannot install in dm-0
<japa2> What's a likely cause?
<japa2> Wish me luck I partitioned manually which I've borked multiple times
<japa2> Worked
#ubuntu-budgie 2018-01-30
<japa> Hey so I've gotten my Ubuntu budgie installed (loving so far) can I get some info about the config files and their location
<fossfreedom> japa, dconf-editor / gsettings
<fossfreedom> budgie uses dconf more most of its config
<japa> Thanks
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-04
<bashfulrobot> test (ignore me)
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-06
<maetthew> I'm having this problem where my keyboard buttons for volume up/down stops working what seems to be randomly. At first I thought it had something to do with when the computer went to sleep, but yesterday it happened without the computer sleep and then the same happened again today. I switched from Windows to Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 approx two weeks ago and after a few small quirks in the beginning everything's been working smooth except for
<maetthew> this small thing. Coming from some (little) experience of mainly Linux servers and very limited experience with desktop environments I have no clue at all here. Anyone got any idea how to troubleshoot this?
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-08
<bashfulrobot> maetthew: We have a thread following this in our discourse forum (https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/). It _*seems*_ to be a bug when usinbg IBUS.
<bashfulrobot> Open settings (application) > Language and Region > Manage Installed Languages. Then change "Keyboard input method system" to "none". This can be an issue though if using other language besides English though. But is a good test to see if it is the same issue.
<maetthew> bashfulrobot: Thanks will check it out
<bashfulrobot> maetthew: Cool!
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-12
<Guma> Hello. I just installed first time Budgie 18.04. I am moving from Mac OS and looking for things like Expose, ability to assign such Expose features to extra mouse buttons for quick access. Is this possible?
<TheSilentLink> Hi what is the photo viewer in budgie called
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-15
<MrAureliusR> hey folks
<MrAureliusR> for some reason budgie-panel keeps locking up, stays at 100% cpu usage. I can use everything else (including plank) but both my panels are just frozen.
<MrAureliusR> logging in and logging out fixes it, but only for a few hours it seems
<MrAureliusR> I just realised it's been frozen for over 2 hours, it's 18:26 yet my panel says 16:15
<MrAureliusR> I can kill -9 it as well and it restarts
<MrAureliusR> how can I figure out what's causing this?
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-16
<dreamcat4> hi MrAureliusR. I am also experiencing a similar issue from time to time. not sure what is causing it
<dreamcat4> keep a terminal window open somewhere at all times
<dreamcat4> $ nohup budgie-wm --replace &
<dreamcat4> will save you from having to logout each time. and will keep your applications open
<MrAureliusR> interestingly it's not budgie-wm that's locking up
<MrAureliusR> it's budgie-panel
<bashfulrobot> MrAureliusR: Come join us at https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/
<bashfulrobot> We can help you out over there
<MrAureliusR> aight
<MrAureliusR> where should I post?
<bashfulrobot> I would post in "budgie decktop" category
<bashfulrobot> MrAureliusR: ^^
<MrAureliusR> okay, just posted bashfulrobot
<bashfulrobot> MrAureliusR: Good stuff! You will get a better response there (whole team and community are generally around to help). I mostly monitor here to make sure people do not message on deaf ears.
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-17
<MrAureliusR> I know budgie is written in vala, but I'm having a hard time finding ebooks about Vala... any suggestions?
<dreamcat4> MrAureliusR: you can run that same --replace command on either budgie-wm or budgie-panel. the reason for doing it on budgie-wm is to make sure everything is fully killed and restarted. it might not matter which one either way. budgie-panel is a child process of budgie-wm
<dreamcat4> MrAureliusR: vala is a psuedo-language that compiles down to C, it's apis are probably tightly integrated with other technologies used by gnome. such as GTK etc.
<dreamcat4> so therefore other existing code of projects which use similar libraries / apis would be a good initial place to get your bearing from
<dreamcat4> *bearing
<dreamcat4> for example there might be some very complete and well written 'small projects' or standalone utilities written in vala. which are more self-contained and use a limited subset of these apis / dont have such a sprawling source code / keep referring to stuff outside of the scope that you are looking at
<MrAureliusR> ugh it just froze again. so it wasn't the forecast applet
<MrAureliusR> ah crap I just ran that replace and reset command, and it wiped all my customizations... sigh. I meant to edit it first
<MrAureliusR> that took me like the better part of an hour to get it set up the way I wanted
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-29
<ghostnik11> i have a program that i had to install using sudo make install. now i can call the program from terminal, but i want to put the program in the dock so i don't have to go to terminal each time to use it. how can i
<bashfulrobot> Ghostnikll : you would need to create a desktop file.
<bashfulrobot> This is just some background on the spec itself. https://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html
<bashfulrobot> But I find this article a little more approachable.
<bashfulrobot> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_entries
#ubuntu-budgie 2019-01-31
<snake2k> Hi all, how do I enable nonfree, 3rd party, or proprietary repos on ubuntu budgie?
#ubuntu-budgie 2020-01-29
<tyranade> hey guys im running ubuntu budgie 19.10 with a dual display setup and a lot of applications open up on my right hand display which is not set as deault my left hand one is
<tyranade> some apps like spotify remember where they where closed but a lot of other apps open on the wrong monitor
<bashfulrobot> tyranade: if I remember correctly, remembering positions is not currently supported in the budgie desktop. I've seen references to people using `devilspie2` to script up and remember window positions.
<bashfulrobot> For example here is a link to a thread where one of the lead developers on the budgie desktop itself is using this tool. https://www.reddit.com/r/SolusProject/comments/9b73u6/saving_restoring_a_session_in_solus/ (Joshua)
<bashfulrobot> fossfreedom: is my assumption correct?

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