#kubuntu-devel 2006-01-01 <Tm_T> hmm, where's newest koffice packages for breezy? <freeflying_> Tm_T: kubuntu.org/packages <Tm_T> humm <Tm_T> so newest packages are with 3.5 then I presume <JRe> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32984 <Burgwork> do any programs in Kubuntu default to the arts backend? <\sh> Burgwork: not that I know of..normally default is gstreamer <Burgwork> \sh, do is akode-mpeg a sane thing to tell people to install, or should they just install gstreamer-mad? <apokryphos> akode-mpeg too <Burgwork> apokryphos, they need both? <apokryphos> I think the hover-over for playback affect uses arts <Burgwork> ah <apokryphos> or effect, even <apokryphos> Riddell's faq on kubuntu.org says both, as well <Burgwork> someone was playing with RestrictedFormats, so I figured I would come and ask <apokryphos> Burgwork: me =) <Burgwork> apokryphos, I fixed your note so it made more sense in English <apokryphos> sure, either way <Burgwork> thanks for adding the information <Tonio_> hi all <Tonio_> \sh: hi, sorry for disturbing you... <Tonio_> \sh: I found a little problem using kdenetworkconf <Tonio_> bluez config doesn't match the kdenetworkconf requirements <Tonio_> should I send the diff file directly to Riddell-awa , or creating a bug report on launchpad ? <Tonio_> that's not really a bug, but a parameter that should be set within kubuntu-default-settings <\sh> Tonio_: kdenetworkconf is in main? file a bugzilla bug with the fix <Tonio_> \sh: okay ;) <Tonio_> \sh: yes, it's in main <JRe> Tonio_: motiv du package ? <JRe> oups wrong window <Burgwork> \sh, thanks for the wine work #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-02 <JRe> is there a package using unsermake ? <allee> JRe: afaik, Riddell favour unsermake and build all KDE core pkgs with it <JRe> allee: can I use kde.mk with unsermake ? <JRe> allee: because i am experiencing an error <allee> JRe: never tried but if my above claim is right, it should work <allee> JRe: which error? <JRe> WARNING: use unsermake instead of make or use a wrapper script, e.g. makeobj!!! <JRe> unsermake all <JRe> Wrong parameters. <JRe> Usage: unsermake [OPTION] ... [dir] ... <\sh> what? <\sh> cdbs and unsermake didn't work for me the last time <JRe> same <JRe> damn <JRe> \sh: do you know a package which build using unsermake (I want to take a look)? <\sh> JRe: I don't trust unsermake...and most of the kde stuff is build with cdbs so I don't use it * #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! <Tonio_> hi <Tonio_> allee: ping ? <allee> Tonio_: pong <Tonio_> I have a question that make me crazy ;) <Tonio_> how are you ? <Tonio_> spent a good christmas ? <allee> Tonio_: looks like a cold is on it's way. :( <allee> Tonio_: hope you feel better ;) <Tonio_> yes, my problems are globally resolved <Tonio_> thanks for keeping informed ;) <Tonio_> I have a problem with 2 packages, I haven't been able to find the solution... <Tonio_> I'm sure you know that by heart :) <Tonio_> I have po a folder with several .po files and a .pot <Tonio_> during the compilation, I get this :* <Tonio_> make[3] : *** No rule to make target `k9copy.pot', needed by `all-am'. Stop. <Tonio_> according to what I understand, the pot file is not supposed to be compiled right ? <allee> Tonio_: afair the pot files is an extract of I18N() in the sources. <Tonio_> .po are supposed to <Tonio_> allee: yes, but why on earth is it trying to compiling it ? <allee> Tonio_: the .po files are the transalation of the .pot ;) <Tonio_> allee: I know that <Tonio_> the .pot is the "generic" <Tonio_> and you use it to create the .po files is that correct ? <Tonio_> allee: is the .pot supposed to be compiled ? <allee> Tonio_: the translator (KDE svn or rosetta) create/update the .po <allee> Tonio_: .pot is not compiled. Usually it's create by a: make messages <Tonio_> allee: so what about that error message ? <Tonio_> make[3] : *** No rule to make target `k9copy.pot', needed by `all-am'. Stop. <allee> Tonio_: ubuntu add rules to create the .pot file in debian/rules. <Tonio_> you mean ? <Tonio_> I'm not talking about the patch for rosetta :) <Tonio_> the packaged fails to compile with or without the patch <allee> Tonio_: oh, then it's really strange. I've never seen a pkg yet that creates pot during builds <Tonio_> I have 2 packages doing this.... <Tonio_> metamonitor and k9copy <Tonio_> would you like to see one of those ? <Tonio_> I've spent 2 weeks on the net searching for an explanation <allee> Tonio_: yes. I was just about to ask you this <Tonio_> that make me crazy :) <Tonio_> dcc ? <Tonio_> better url <allee> Tonio_: URL prefered I'm on a very slow line for the next 2 weeks <Tonio_> okay <Tonio_> allee: email maybe, I can't upload there.... squid is too secured :) <allee> emily84@example.com <Tonio_> I know , written everywhere on the net ^^ <Tonio_> allee: you should have it in 2 minutes <Tonio_> allee: thanks for you everytime availability to help, really ! <allee> Tonio_: thx. Lunch soon. so maybe I need some time takes to answer <Tonio_> and the real stupid thing is that the .pot already exists.... no need to extract it.... <Tonio_> allee: no problem, you help me, I'm not going to ask for a scheduled to 1PM answer ;) <Tonio_> allee: don't waste time <Tonio_> I just found <Tonio_> DAMN, I spent weeks searching <Tonio_> 2 weeks <Tonio_> I just have to discuss with you to find.... <Tonio_> ;) <allee> heh, download finshed right now, but ask right away <Tonio_> I'm ashamed ;) <allee> lol <Tonio_> right, here is a real question <Tonio_> when you patch mkefile.am file <Tonio_> is the Makefile.in supposed to be regenerated automatically ? <allee> Tonio_: yes <Tonio_> cause I tried and generally it doesn't work, I have to patch both <allee> Tonio_: then maintainermode is disabled <Tonio_> is it better to enable it in a certain way or patching the .in file ? <Tonio_> what would you suggest ? <allee> Tonio_: lunch I'll have a look at the patch and problem later <allee> bbl <Tonio_> have a good lunch :) <allee> Tonio_: ping <allee> Tonio_: po/Makefile.am has an entry k9copy.pot. Remove it from .in and k9copy build <allee> Tonio_: in rules you have a typo: s/src/k9copy.desktop/src/K9copy.desktop/ <allee> Tonio_: K9copy.desktop also misses Categories= So it's not a correct desktop file for /usr/share/applications yet <allee> Tonio_: I prefer to 'mv' desktop files in rules instead of using dh_install (now you have two copies: in applications/kde and applnk/) <allee> Tonio_: about: No rule to make target `k9copy.pot', needed by `all-am'. <allee> Tonio_: I think listing k9copy.pot in po/Makefile* is wrong. With or without rosattafication <allee> Tonio_: easiest thing is remove k9copy.pot from Makefile.in. (btw. removing it in Makefile.am rebuilds Makefile.in too) <Tonio_> allee: yes I saw that <Tonio_> allee: the problem is that when I tried to find the solution I did only patch the .am <Tonio_> so now I patch the .am and .in <Tonio_> then it works <Tonio_> concerning the .desktop, that's not already patched ;) <allee> Oh? When I changed Makefile.am here, the Makefile.in got rebuild <Tonio_> allee: ? strange ;) <Tonio_> I wanted the package to build before patching the .desktop <Tonio_> but I always do, don't mind ;) <Tonio_> anyway, I was sure you would find in a few minutes ;) * allee has a red face now <Tonio_> hehe ;) <Tonio_> sad that your knowledge isn't downloadable in xml format for easy reusability :) <allee> Tonio_: my knowledge contains to many typos to be valid xml <Tonio_> allee: LOL ^^ <raphink> gniark * raphink is getting crazy with keychain <allee> I have to go out with the kids. to much tempting snow. bbl <raphink> Tonio_: tu connais keychain ? <Mez> Riddell-awa, ping <allee> raphink: did you solve you keychain problems? <raphink> nope <raphink> found another way <raphink> well still working on it #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-03 * netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> zelazny.freenode.net <Hobbsee> Mez: with katapult, is there a way to get the system tray icon again, once it's hidden, without going into the configuration file, and changing trayicon to equal true? <Mez> Hobbsee alt+space ctrl C - configure katapult <Mez> It's in there <Riddell-awa> it's not obvious though, we need something the user can click on #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-04 <Mez> Riddell: welcome back and ping <Riddell> Mez: thanks and pong <Mez> Riddell: got the latest package of katapult to go up :D <Riddell> Mez: ah yes, I'll take a look in a couple of minutes <Mez> with a few fixes and stuff (it's going through into debian soon - I'm working with one of the kde team to get that sorted <Mez> he's noticed quite a few things that arent in the revu package <Mez> Hobbsee, did you get my answer about katapult earlier? <Mez> Riddell: putting new version up to REVU <allee> hi Mez <allee> Just saw your mez-guest in pkg-kde on alioth. But I don't remember a commit from you. what happened? ;) <Mez> erm - I didnt know i'd been given access <Mez> there was a reason for it :D lol <allee> heh :) <Mez> It was something to do with helping with some package or another that I'd provided patches for <Mez> but they requested it but I never got told i had access <allee> [Pkg-kde-commits] rev 1645 - scripts/svn-hooks Date: 2005-09-01 22:43:10 +0000 (Thu, 01 Sep 2005) <allee> Add mez-guest as a kde-extras committer. <Mez> yeah <Mez> there was something in there lol <allee> Mez: so consider yourself as officially informed ;) <Mez> allee: now I gotta remmeber what it was for :D * allee does some archeology in list archives .. <allee> Mez: ahh libkexif: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2005-August/000318.html <Mez> I just remember it being that we'd made changes in ubuntu so they wanted to give us access :D <Mez> ah yes :D <Mez> lol <Mez> I'd made a few changes to fix lil things lol - mainly rebuilds to get the damn thing to be nice <Mez> lol <Riddell> Mez: is katapult ready for me to look at? <Mez> Riddell: er yeah - though I cant get it up to revu atm - lemme upload it to my server <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/katapult/ <Mez> Riddell: there it is ^^ <Mez> Riddell: uploading to revu now aswell :d <Riddell> Mez: what's the reason for a snapshot just now? <Mez> Riddell: because theres been a few bugfixes - it has the new icon - and It's more stable ... <Riddell> groovy <Mez> plus - the simple fact it distributes something in the current package that it not under GPL :D <Mez> :-" <Mez> which NONE of us noticed <Riddell> Mez: oh? what's that? <Mez> the doc/ folder <Mez> lol <Mez> it was an example thing <Mez> but theres some issue with it according to debian <Mez> so i removed it :D <Mez> :P <Mez> Riddell: basically this is the last snapshot before we actually release 0.3 I believe <Mez> of course - I'm gonna wait for Bastian to be back <Mez> but - it's pretty much done :D <crimsun> oh, the G FDL issue? <Mez> crimsun, yeah :D <Mez> :-" <Mez> I dont know how none of us noticed that <Mez> plus we're using JRe's doc stuff anyways - the doc/ folder isnt used :D <Riddell> Mez: FDL is fine for Kubuntu, although it's not clear what copyright licence that template is under, seems to be free for all <Mez> Riddell, IT doesnt matter anyways - it's gone now :D <Riddell> yep <Mez> any problems with the package (I've been caught out on sooo many lil things lol!) <Mez> btw - why did you add the B-D on automake1.9 ? <Riddell> dunno, it needed it <Mez> doesnt anymore :P <Mez> nor autotools-dev <crimsun> even on amd64? <crimsun> in the past that's where most of them have ftbfs <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/katapult/0.3-0ubuntu1/ yeah, failed on 64 bit without it <Riddell> Mez: we still need kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff <Mez> why - isnt it in the source now ? <Riddell> doesn't seem to be, and it probably shouldn't be since admin/ is just taken from KDE <Mez> I thought it was o_o <Riddell> we should have katapult auto-launch instead of relying on ksmserver. I think that's just a line in the .desktop file <Mez> yeah but if people dont want it ? <Mez> I mean - did you look at that bug? <Riddell> I remembera bug on the issue <Mez> but yeah <Mez> i closed it <Riddell> if people don't want it it doesn't get in the way <Mez> people dont neccessarily want it there <Mez> and seeing as alt+space overrieskmail shortcuts :D <Hobbsee> with the latest version of katapult, is there a way to get the system tray icon again, once it's hidden, without going into the configuration file, and changing trayicon to equal true? <Mez> then if people dont want it they can easily get rid of it <Riddell> Hobbsee: control-space control-c <Mez> Hobbsee, alt+space - ctrl+c configure katapult -> show icon in systray <Mez> Riddell - i think it should be how it is <Mez> turned on by default but not forced <Hobbsee> ah...i see... <Hobbsee> Mez was right <Hobbsee> cool :) - i just edited the config file last night when i wanted to get at the system tray icon... <Hobbsee> much quicker this way <Mez> lol <Mez> Riddell - I'll readd that patch though <Mez> though i'm not too sure if it'll cause problems <Mez> it did before <Mez> wouldnt patch <Riddell> Mez: I already have <Mez> oh, ok :D <Mez> you're gonna do it that way :D <Mez> lol :D * Mez hasnt recieved katie output in months :D <Mez> Riddell: after this any chance of you helping me out with a package <Mez> I seriously have no idea why it's not working but dh_install is being a ***** <Riddell> Mez: changing version no to katapult-0.3baz20051226 so 0.3.0 is greater <Mez> Riddell: the package will be released as 0.3.1 I believe :D <Mez> but tis up to you * seth_k|lappy reads up the IRC log and sees dozens of :D emoticons <seth_k|lappy> my eyes <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: better than :'( ones though * Mez :Ds at seth_k|lappy * seth_k|lappy filters all lines from Mez containing *:D* * seth_k|lappy does not hear from Mez again in the next 10 years <Mez> lol * Mez switches to :P <Mez> hows things seth ? <Hobbsee> hehe <seth_k|lappy> just working on PHP stuff <Mez> Riddell: you might know who i can talk to about this: dcop kicker MenuManager doesnt seem to have anything <Mez> it's annoying cause we could use that for katapult if it did <Riddell> Mez: what should it do? <Mez> it should exist :D <Mez> it lists it as an export in dcop kicker <Mez> but i'm guessing in there should be functions to manage the kmenu via dcop <Riddell> aseigo would be the chap to know <Riddell> he's not on IRC just now <Mez> darn <crimsun_> Riddell: ping <jjesse> allee: are you still using qemu? did you get networking enabled and working? <Riddell> emily84@example.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel <Riddell> no more froud I guess <jjesse> Riddell: haven't seen him since his last disagreement w/ the doc-team <Tm_T> hi Riddell :) <Riddell> hi Tm_T <Mez> Riddell, do you know if muszilla is on IRC ? (and whats his nick) <Riddell> Mez: who is he? <Mez> Riddell: Andreas Muesgiller <Mez> the guy who does kzenexplorer etc <Riddell> Mez: not sure I'm afraid <Mez> fair enough :D <Mez> Riddell, any more changes needed for katapult? <Riddell> Mez: katapult is uploaded <Tm_T> hmh, I'm trying to compile kicker, but its whining something about missing /usr/lib/libXft.la and I can't find it <Mez> Riddell: ah - I didnt see anything in dapper-changes <Riddell> Mez: you should have got katie output too <Riddell> Tm_T: in libxft-dev <Mez> Riddell: you upped it in my name? <Mez> I didnt get katie output <Riddell> Tm_T: although if it's been scrapped you'll need to recompile everything that references it, grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la <Riddell> Maintainer: Martin Meredith <emily84@example.com> <Riddell> Changed-By: Martin Meredith <emily84@example.com> <Mez> hmm <Mez> yeah <Mez> It's uploaded <Mez> weird <Mez> but no katie/dapper-changes output <Riddell> it was in dapper-changes <Mez> yeah <Mez> hmm * Mez goes and looks at mailman <Mez> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-December/003848.html <Mez> I dont think I'm getting any email to my ubuntu.com email <Tm_T> hmm <Tm_T> Riddell: oh great <Tm_T> Riddell: I do have libxft-dev installed, but no libXft.la <Riddell> Tm_T: look at the changelog <Tm_T> Riddell: ok <Tm_T> this one is interesting: locate: fatal error: set_path_head: path_head len <= 0: 0 <Tm_T> :p <Mez> Riddell, ping #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-05 <pef> hello <pef> Riddell: hello Jonathan <Tm_T> Riddell: aah, I just recompiled kicker from scratch, no problem anymore :) stupid me * Tm_T shame <Mez> Tm_T, ping <Tm_T> Mez: pong <Mez> Tm_T, if you recompiled kicker from scratch -can you tell me what this command returns? <Mez> dcop kicker MenuManager <Tm_T> object 'MenuManager' in application 'kicker' not accessible <Tm_T> :) <Mez> darn <Tm_T> current svn 3.5 branch <Tm_T> with some modifications of mine <Mez> :( <Tm_T> if I manage to finish those, we might soon have the ultimateclock applet ;) <Mez> lol * Tm_T is trying to add "user defined format" to time and date <Tm_T> actually only date <freeflying_> Happy new year all <allee> freeflying_: already 2006 for you ;) <freeflying_> allee: about 50 minutes left <raphink> hi freeflying <raphink> happy new year to you <raphink> still 8 hours here <raphink> almost <freeflying_> raphink: happy new year to you too <raphink> (in 8 hours for me) <freeflying_> raphink: I'll be in new year ahead of you all :) <raphink> indeed <raphink> :) <raphink> so you can tell us what it looks like ;) <freeflying_> wonderful <freeflying_> hmmm * ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Have a Great Hogmanay Kubuntu! | Flight 2 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu <Lathiat> freeflying_: ah you in the same timezone as me? <Lathiat> Sat Dec 31 23:36:05 WST 2005 <freeflying_> Lathiat: y <Riddell> well still 8 hours 20 minutes for me, I'm off to join the party, hae a guid ane <freeflying_> Riddell: party ? great <freeflying_> Now we are in 2006 #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-06 <Riddell> anyone tried kpowersave? <raphink> Riddell: did I understand there was an equivalent to update-notifier being developped for kubuntu ? <raphink> well I did understand that but I'm not sure it's right ;) <Riddell> raphink: mornfall is working on it <raphink> how is it called? <Riddell> although we're still waiting to hear if he'll get a bounty for it so no guarantees yet <raphink> (Happy New Year 2006 btw) <raphink> hmmm ic <Riddell> not sure if it has a name yet <raphink> is he porting update-notifier or devloping from scratch? <Riddell> developing from scratch I think, update-notifier is all of about 4 classes <Riddell> look at ept/adept in KDE's SVN playground/admin module, there may be code in there <raphink> hmm ok <Riddell> happy new year :) <raphink> thanks <raphink> do you have any idea when next CC is to be? <Riddell> nope, check the calendar <raphink> it's not in the calendar yet <raphink> ;) <raphink> so I'll wait <raphink> theorically it should be on the 3rd <raphink> but it doesn't seem it's going to be <raphink> ;) <jpatrick> Happy New Year allee <allee> jpatrick: thx. Same to you!! <allee> jpatrick: everyone recovered? Or are some members still missing in action? ;) <jpatrick> Not sure... <jpatrick> I've had nothing to drink... <jpatrick> due to unavoidable thingies <allee> jpatrick: heh, no alcohol here for years. Once can survive <jpatrick> allee: I think I have to wait 3 more years for alcohol... <allee> jpatrick: btw. arn't you involved in docs? <jpatrick> allee: Nope <jpatrick> I tried to get involed... <jpatrick> except for KubuntuPackagingGuide <allee> ah, I've some TODO for this. Sigh. <jpatrick> wow a kubuntu-i18n spec <Riddell> do we know philscite? wanting to join kubuntu-team <Tm_T> hmm, can't remember seen that ever <Riddell> turns out to be the philipine school of it <Riddell> which would be cool to have them as users <Riddell> a <Riddell> alas launchpad doesn't want to work for approving or declining members just now <Tm_T> hmm, if there's no reason not to allow, bring him in :) <Tm_T> him/her/them <Tm_T> whatever <Riddell> well I'm trying to keep kubuntu-team as a list of people who actually are kubuntu developers <Riddell> so random people I decline with a note saying please say hi to us first <Tm_T> heh <jjesse> so where do i fit into kubuntu-team :P <Riddell> jjesse: you're on the team! <Tm_T> hmm, jingle voice support on kopete... almost ok, crashes if I accept audio =) <Tm_T> (haven't tried myself yet) <jjesse> just being difficult "Riddlel: well I'm trying to keep kubuntu-team as a list of people who actually are kubuntu developers" <Tm_T> I hope I'm not that list... I don't wanna die yet! :O <Tm_T> hmm, no hitlist? <Riddell> jjesse: and you are! <Riddell> where developer means anyone who's done anything to help <jjesse> grin thanks :) <Tm_T> mez o/ <Riddell> anyone want to package kflickr <Riddell> upstream already has a package <Tm_T> I don't think I'm sharp enough atm to do it <Riddell> http://www.destination-linux.org/kflickr/index.php?path=0.5/ <Riddell> just needs checked for sanity I guess <seth_k|lappy> I'm on it, Riddell <seth_k|lappy> should I keep it native, or break out debian/ <allee> seth_k|lappy: there nothing that stops you to create a orig.tar. IMHO do it <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: use whatever the upstream tar has <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, okay. It's a native package, so I'll just make sure it builds and then REVU it <Riddell> cool #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-07 <Tm_T> allright, good night and keep up the good work :) -> <Riddell> sealne: how's the wheelchair accessibility at strathclyde? <sealne> didn't i mention that? fully accessable <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, added a build-dep and now it builds fine. Should I put myself in as the maintainer for kicks and giggles? <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: can do <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: it needs a .orig <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: also remove CVS directories from the .orig <seth_k|lappy> okay, wasn't sure if I should so as to stick close to upstream <seth_k|lappy> will do now and reupload in a sec <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: hang on, few other comments <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 <seth_k|lappy> alright, thanks :) <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, so you want a non-native package? .orig and diff? <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: yes, non-native <Riddell> it might be native to him but it isn't to us <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 another comment <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: but you can keep the debian directory in the .orig or .diff whichever you perfer <Riddell> assuming the original source has a debian/ directory <seth_k|lappy> it does <seth_k|lappy> if I'm going to maintain it though, I'd just as soon break it out now <seth_k|lappy> so I'll re-do with .orig and diff and have it up in a sec <Riddell> groovy <seth_k|lappy> I think I'll go ahead and make it -0 as well; he's making a native package with Debian revision numbers, that's kinda an oxymoron <Riddell> yes, well noticed <Riddell> going out for a jog, will revu when I get back if it's uploaded <raphink> happy new year seth_k|lappy <seth_k|lappy> you too, raphink :) <seth_k|lappy> do you have any resolutions ;) <raphink> hmm <raphink> find a job <raphink> :s <seth_k|lappy> hehe <raphink> and it's not that easy <raphink> to try to find what I could do <raphink> ;) <raphink> not that I have no skill <raphink> but I don't want to do any job <raphink> ;) <raphink> lately i'm thinking if I could work a linux teacher <raphink> like teaching the basic use of linux systems in companies <raphink> what kind of level/skills do you think that requires? <seth_k|lappy> better communication skills than Linux skills <raphink> mhm <raphink> well I've focused on pedagogy lately <raphink> and i'm aiming to create a new method to teach computer sciences <raphink> using what I have learned in pedagagy <raphink> pedagogy <raphink> that was not, as far as I know, used for computer sciences so far <raphink> so let's say I've got the communication and teaching skills <raphink> I'm more wondering about the linux skills ;) <raphink> what do you think seth_k|lappy ? <seth_k|lappy> I think that you don't need very advanced Linux skills to teach the basics found in a workplace <seth_k|lappy> word processing, faxing, printing, e-mail <raphink> I'm aiming to teach more <raphink> although that all depends what they want me to teach, of course <raphink> but I'd like to go as far as understanding the file system <raphink> and the relation between it and partitions <raphink> and stuff like that <seth_k|lappy> whew <raphink> and I want to work on a new way to teach these concepts <raphink> I've begun to work on it today <raphink> focusing on the filesystem and partitions so far <raphink> but I hope to go deeper into other stuff <raphink> network and so on <raphink> seth_k|lappy: i've done that today : http://r.pinson.free.fr/travail/systeme_fichier.jpg <raphink> it's just a mockup <raphink> and I'm not very happy with it <raphink> I got to the point that their are actually two concepts that are often confused <raphink> the hard drive, divised in partitions, which is a rather spacial concept <raphink> and the filesystem, on which partitions are mounted, which is a rather temporal concept, since you go from a dir to another to browse it <raphink> anyway <raphink> ;) <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, all done when you get back <raphink> brave workers around :) <raphink> making dapper a more exciting perspective everyday :) <Riddell> raphink: read the FHS to learn about the filesystem <raphink> FHS? <raphink> Riddell: actually I most want to teach it <Riddell> file heirarchy standard <raphink> find a way to teach the concept to noobs in companies <Riddell> mm, yes, it's not always easy <raphink> yes <raphink> that's why I want to apply my knowledge in pedagogy <raphink> and try to understand as best as possible the concept of filesystem <raphink> to focus on the concept <Riddell> it really annoyed me how they added /srv recently, you'd thing they would understand that 3 letter abbreviations are not a good idea <raphink> hehe <raphink> what is /srv for? <Riddell> server files, i.e. what apache or ftp server gives out * Riddell reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedagogy <raphink> hehe <raphink> I study an innovative pedagogy <raphink> which is yet almost only taught in French speaking countries <raphink> because it's hard to translate (if possible) <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1357 1 issue still <seth_k|lappy> bah :) * seth_k|lappy looks <Riddell> also I've no idea what the debiandirs file is for <seth_k|lappy> hum, Riddell, he had it under version 1 methinks <seth_k|lappy> not version 2 <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: could you add the homepage to the description in debian/control while we're being perfectionists :) <seth_k|lappy> sure thing :) <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: everything I've seen says version 2 <Riddell> I've never seen anything that uses GPL 1 <seth_k|lappy> alrighty <raphink> Riddell: could you advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1310 again please? <Riddell> raphink: what's changed? <raphink> GPL-2 is from 1991 or so I think <raphink> so hardly any program is under -1 <raphink> not much Riddell <Riddell> yep, predates even Linux <raphink> http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=1000&upid2=1310 <raphink> added a patch for the desktop file <raphink> and one of the pot file <raphink> removed files left after debuild && debuild -S -sa <raphink> and that's about it <Riddell> raphink: why the need for make -f Makefile.cvs ? <raphink> because i remove some files in clean: that need to be regenerated <seth_k|lappy> uploading again, Riddell, it'll take a couple minutes to process it <raphink> :s <raphink> since some files are modified by the build and have to be cleaned in clean: <Riddell> raphink: groovy, advocated <raphink> ok :) <raphink> ty <Riddell> wonder where pef has gone to, he was a good revu'er <raphink> vacation maybe ;) <seth_k|lappy> new upload is active on REVU, Riddell. 1 -> 2 && +Homepage <Riddell> it would be really good if we could reach a critical mass of kubuntu MOTU for revuing <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: gah, nooo! <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, ah? <Riddell> should be /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL not /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 <seth_k|lappy> ahhhh <Riddell> since it's GPL 2 or later <raphink> Riddell: the more kubuntu members, the more kubuntu MOTUs I guess ;) <Riddell> and /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL is a symlink which will get updated when GPL 3 comes out <seth_k|lappy> ohhhh <seth_k|lappy> slomo had me change that in the kmobiletools package <seth_k|lappy> and I've always done it since :S <seth_k|lappy> sorry <Riddell> did he? <seth_k|lappy> once more... <raphink> Riddell: do you have a reference about this /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL thingy ? <raphink> cause we had a talk about it with slomo last time <raphink> and although it seems very logical to me <raphink> i haven't gotten any 'standard' reference to it <raphink> maybe in policy <Riddell> raphink: no I don't, maybe we should being it up at the next motu meeting <raphink> I had to change it in one of my packages, too <raphink> so it'd be good to check and have a reference to quote * raphink goes to check in policy <seth_k|lappy> so should I change it, or not :) it's ready to upload again if so <raphink> try to call me if you don't see me back in 1 hour <raphink> that means i'm lost in policy <seth_k|lappy> haha <raphink> :s <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: yeah upload, we can change it again if I'm wrong * raphink fears policy <seth_k|lappy> uploading... <raphink> Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license in the file /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed nor be a symbolic link. <raphink> Policy 12.5 <raphink> that is interesting enough <raphink> Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Artistic license, the GNU GPL, and the GNU LGPL should refer to the files /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic, /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL, and /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL respectively, rather than quoting them in the copyright file. <seth_k|lappy> I think Riddell gets full marks on that one ;) <raphink> indeed <raphink> although i'm still searching for stuff on GPL-2 file <raphink> va falloir envoyer un mail RMS ;) <raphink> grml <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, new upload processed <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: advocated! <raphink> I'd just say that when searching on google <raphink> /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL gives about 136000 results <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: please track down someone else to advocate and I'll upload <raphink> while /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 gives only about 10500 <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, will do <Riddell> thanks <Riddell> I'm off to bed <seth_k|lappy> night <raphink> although almost no app is licensed under -1 <raphink> and policy doesn't talk about /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 <raphink> so +1 for Riddell <raphink> :) <raphink> although it'd be nice to get it to next MOTU meeting as Riddell said :) <Riddell> no MOTU meeting scheduled that I can see <raphink> yes :s <raphink> maybe we can add it to the agenda <raphink> so whenever there's a meeting it can be talked about <raphink> is there an agenda actually? <raphink> hehe <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting <raphink> I'll add it :) <raphink> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting <Riddell> groovy <raphink> :) <raphink> ok I'm off to bed :) <raphink> ++ <seth_k|lappy> night raphink|sleep <raphink|sleep> night seth_k|lappy <seth_k|lappy> btw Riddell, I did the manpage for the bonus points, do I have enough to get a pony yet? :P <Riddell> free horse to whoever packages polyester widget style first :) * Riddell beds * raphink|sleep wonders where he would put a free horse in his 35m flat <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, want a free pony? <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: a free pony? could be fun - but my kangaroo would get jealous... <Tm_T> it's goat <seth_k|lappy> R iddell> free horse to whoever packages polyester widget style first :) <seth_k|lappy> the pony could be yours! <Hobbsee> ah right! <Hobbsee> looks nice <lamont> you need to install kdelibs first. <lamont> If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by <lamont> this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. <lamont> The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the <lamont> _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt <lamont> configuration settings. <lamont> sigh * lamont wonders if anyone cares enough to figure out why hppa is emily84@example.com... <Tm_T> ? <mornfall> ! <Riddell> that'll be qt's buildkey again <Riddell> ../../../kig/modes/../objects/../misc/object_hierarchy.h:31: instantiated from here <Riddell> /usr/lib/gcc/hppa-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../include/c++/4.0.3/bits/basic_string.h:278: warning: cast from 'char*' to 'st33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abbasic_string<char, st33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abchar_traits<char>, st33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99aballocator<char> >33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab_Rep*' increases required alignment of target type <Tm_T> yrrrh, laggy ssh :( <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, ping <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: pong <seth_k|lappy> ah good, you're here <seth_k|lappy> elmo bounced kflickr back because of arch=i386 instead of =any, but I don't have ppc or 64 to test on. Can you test those for me before I change the field? <Riddell> doh <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: unless there's a good reason for it not to work on an architecture just assume it does <Riddell> very few KDE programs have anything architecture specific in them <seth_k|lappy> alright <seth_k|lappy> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1365 <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: uploading <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, would you mind leaving my e-mail on it so I can get the katie output? <seth_k|lappy> I'd rather have elmo yell at me if it bounces again so I don't have to come hunt down what's wrong <Riddell> ok, although that always seems to go wrong when I do that <seth_k|lappy> thanks, I appreciate it <Riddell> uploaded <Riddell> sebas: what's the difference between "import qt" and "from qt import *" in python? <seth_k|lappy> thanks very much, Riddell. seems to have gone through okay... and I appreciate being able to see the katie output <Riddell> I wish katie would output to the person who signed it as well as the changed-by <jpatrick> Riddell: new kmymoney2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1350 <jpatrick> oh dear <Riddell> jpatrick: libaqbanking0-dev still won't install <jpatrick> okay that's another oh dear <Riddell> which is caused by some x thingy not working <jpatrick> libaqbanking0c2 ? <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, I'll contact upstream with the updated package and the comment about using XDG menus after it hits the archive <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: great <Riddell> jpatrick: it needs to do a libstdc++ transition but can't because of some X thingy not working <jpatrick> Riddell: another one? (you did one last month) <Riddell> same one as last month <Riddell> c2 -> c2a <jpatrick> Riddell: btw I've closed a few bugs in LP such as: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/yakuake/+bug/3209 <Riddell> xvfb-run is the problem <Riddell> hmm, seems to be working now, might give libaqbanking0-dev another shot <seth_k|lappy> um jpatrick... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/yakuake/+bug/3209 isn't fixed. We need to either patch the default accesskey, or provide a readme <seth_k|lappy> telling the reporter a workaround is *not* the same as fixing the bug <jpatrick> ah right <seth_k|lappy> plus, he can't open yaKuake to perform your workaround <seth_k|lappy> since F12 is already bound <jpatrick> He might be able to use DCOP <Riddell> it's a tricky one, not sure what the correct solution is for that <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, why in the world is F12 right-click anyways? that's sort of a weird key to choose <seth_k|lappy> why not make it something like they're used to... Apple + Command + Shift + Ctrl + 3 + A <seth_k|lappy> :P <Riddell> I used right control and right meta key when I had a mac <seth_k|lappy> So should the bug really be re-filed about changing the default right-click key, instead of the default yaKuake key? :/ <Riddell> you could argue that but whatever key was chosen for that would probably clash with something, and whatever key yakuake has will probably clash with something too <sebas> Riddell: Namespacing, after import "qt', you have to refer to classes as "qt.QWidget()", after "from qt import *" you can do "QWidget()" <Riddell> aah, thanks sebas <sebas> Riddell: And in case you didn't see it, I fixed guidance on dapper. <Riddell> sebas: yeah, I uploaded that thanks <sebas> The problem wasn't pykde indeed. <Riddell> it was your sloppy coding :) <sebas> Did you upload current svn, or just with that patch added? <Riddell> just the patch <sebas> Simon's, actually :) <sebas> We could do another code drop into dapper before the release, I think current svn is in pretty good shape, but I'm planning more usability work. * _Sime is working feverishly on dualhead in guidance. <sebas> And displayconfig is supposed to be release quality before dapper release also. <Riddell> so I should upload an svn snapshot nowish? <sebas> Yeah, you could do. <sebas> I think it shouldn't be broken :) <Riddell> and have displayconfig enabled? <_Sime> I've also been thinking about what we can do about hardware changes at boot time. (i.e. replacing gfx cards) <sebas> Wider testing would be good, so we can get feedback. <_Sime> displayconfig should be working ok in svn. <sebas> displayconfig is only betting better I think. <Riddell> hello macgyver2 <Riddell> I wonder if guidance still counts as upstream or not <macgyver2> hello <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, elmo took it that time :) <sebas> Riddell: upstream where? <sebas> Or "upstream in what context"? <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: ooh, that was fast, groovy <Riddell> sebas: in the context of upstream version freeze <sebas> Riddell: It's only fixes ;-) <Riddell> that's one way to get changes in :) <sebas> Right :) <sebas> We *could* also use branches, but since we don't do bugs, only resolve them, it'd be useless anyway ;-) * sebas 's afk again. <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: libaqbanking is good so I'll upload that and kmymoney <Riddell> also needed libofx rebuilt <Riddell> sorry, should have been to jp <Riddell> jpatrick <Riddell> who isn't here, ah well :)( <seth_k|lappy> hehe <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kmymoney2/+bug/5194 << \sh said he was doing a merge, is that old info? <Riddell> he'll have to be quick since I'm about to upload this one that jpatrick merged <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, ah, 12/27, never mind <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, quick question if you're there <Riddell> yo <seth_k|lappy> do I call polyester "kde-style-polyester", or just "polyester" <Riddell> kde-style-polyester <Riddell> else it's pollutin the namespace too much, and inconsistent with other styles <seth_k|lappy> okay... because lipstik is called "lipstik", but appears as "kde-style-lipstik" <seth_k|lappy> so wasn't sure if there was some voodoo going on there <Riddell> oh you can keep the source package as polyester if you want, or change it however you prefer <seth_k|lappy> what's canonical? <Riddell> it's the company that sponsors ubuntu <seth_k|lappy> NOOOOO <seth_k|lappy> i mean <Riddell> :) <seth_k|lappy> what is the canonical way <seth_k|lappy> I should've realized how dumb that sounded <seth_k|lappy> :P <Riddell> I don't know, look at how existing ones do it and see what's most popular <seth_k|lappy> alright <Riddell> there was some discussions about how to name window styles recently, I don't think they're done consistently <mornfall> wibble <Riddell> mornfall: hmm? <mornfall> just wibble <Riddell> hugs <mornfall> pong without ping <mornfall> what's up <mornfall> hmm, a bit late but still: happy new year :-) <Riddell> happy new year :) * mornfall is trying to guess what are the chances he'll get things done roughly on schedule <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, lipstik has source "lipstik" and binary "kde-style-lipstik"; I do it that way, seems safe <Riddell> ok <jjesse> just a random fyi but here in michigan in the united states it is thundering and lightning.... first thunderstorm i've ever known in mi in jan <Riddell> _Sime: I get an error on displayconfirg when running it through kcmshell <Riddell> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ScanPCI.py", line 135, in _resolveDevicesWithLdetect <Riddell> fhandle = open(os.path.join(self.data_file_dir,"pcitable"),"r") <Riddell> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'pcitable' <_Sime> Riddell: is pcitable installed in /usr/share/apps/guidance? <_Sime> Riddell: does it work outside kcmshell? <Riddell> yes and yes <apokryphos> Riddell: what's the procedure, again, for building packs simply on a different arch? Could get someone to just use their ppc to get 3.5 packs <_Sime> Riddell: I'll add that bug to my mental TODO list. Looks like it is broken in kcmshell... <Riddell> apokryphos: amu made some 3.5 packages I think <apokryphos> Riddell: oh? They gonna go in the repo soon? <apokryphos> (what was the procedure (if you don't mind), just for reference) <Riddell> apokryphos: need to ask amu <Riddell> apokryphos: which procedure? <apokryphos> Riddell: for building packs simply on a different arch. In deboostrap chroot you just need to get the source, and remove the debian/ is it? <apokryphos> and end up with debuild some time at the end 8) <Riddell> put the deb-src in source.list * apokryphos nods <Riddell> apt-get source foo; cd foo-<tab>; debuild <apokryphos> I remember it being short; thanks. <Riddell> jjesse: I never knew you were in the US <Riddell> wonder why not * mornfall frowns <mornfall> Riddell: don't you know if sources.list.d is going to be used by default on dapper? <mornfall> or someone <jjesse> Riddell: yup all my life :) <Riddell> mornfall: that would mean debian-installer writing to sources.list.d I presume? <Riddell> or (k)ubuntu-express <mornfall> Riddell: no idea <Riddell> or is it something that apt needs to have enabled? <mornfall> nah, it should just work out of the box <mornfall> question is, what will the default config be like <mornfall> last thing i want to do is support sources.list.d <Riddell> I'll ask kamion <mornfall> i am completely clueless as how a gui for editing such a beast should look like <Riddell> mornfall: seen the synaptic sources editor? <Riddell> it's a bit abstracted from sources.list <mornfall> which synaptic version? <Riddell> mornfall: breezy <Riddell> _Sime: fix in <jjesse> Riddell: tomorrow when i get to work and have a better connection i'll upload more changes to the release notes <Riddell> jjesse: awooga <Riddell> jjesse: you should be able to add that we have a new displayconfig X setup module in system settings <jjesse> Riddell: i went through your suggestions that we talked about before i left on christmas break <jjesse> and have made them <Riddell> cool <Riddell> mornfall.. <Riddell> 23:03 < Kamion> Riddell: just sources.list unless somebody gives me a good reason otherwise beyond "it's there" :-) <Riddell> 23:03 < Kamion> I prefer to leave sources.list.d for other packages and admin customisation #kubuntu-devel 2006-01-08 <mornfall> Riddell: sounds fair <mornfall> let me check latest debian synaptic sources editor <mornfall> (trying to write commit log for a week worth of java hacking in parallel) <mornfall> hmm, 2 main differences between adept and synaptic <mornfall> hm, 3 <mornfall> checkboxes (which i will probably add since they are more obvious) <Riddell> right click to enable is hard to find <mornfall> buttons to move lines around instead of drag&drop <mornfall> and repository split input <mornfall> in synaptic, it is somewhat not obvious how to change existing line <mornfall> have to select a different line to see the effect of your edits <mornfall> i like in-place editing more... on the other hand, may be again hard to discover <Riddell> doesn't synaptic have tickboxes for saying "source packages on this one please" and "security updates" etc <mornfall> not the version i have <mornfall> 0.57.5 <Riddell> amu: can you confirm http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10193 <mornfall> good night <seth_k|lappy> Bah, Riddell, where do I set includes for a package. I'm getting the same-ish error I got with a couple other KDE packages: <seth_k|lappy> /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc configdialog.h -o configdialog.moc <seth_k|lappy> moc: configdialog.h: No such file <seth_k|lappy> yet configdialog.h exists in the source tree, just in a different directory that isn't included <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: ah, it's broken for builddir!=sourcedir <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: you need to fix Makefile.am <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, I'll look at that patch you posted for kommander and hopefully that'll help me figure out what to fix :) <seth_k|lappy> is there a quick tip you can give on what to look for? <seth_k|lappy> ah, this looks pretty easy to fix <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: I'd have to look at the patch again to work it out :) <Riddell> it needs some variable added to the Makefile.am <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: and make -f Makefile.cvs run again of course <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: did you get it working? <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, ahhhhhhh... worked and worked trying to figure it out, but to no avail. It seems like it's not a builddir != sourcedir problem, because I have the same issue when building directly from the sourcedir. http://seth.pastebin.com/488266 for when you awaken :) <sealne> is there a simple way to rebuild the breezy cd so that it has stuff from updates? <sealne> however the main thing i'm wanting to do is change the mirror used to a local one <sealne> partly to get around the annoying timeouts as we are behind a non transparent web proxy <sealne> so that i don't have to explain local complications to the class installing breezy <sealne> am i needing to rebuild one of the base packages to change the mirror list? <sealne> apt-setup-udeb? <sealne> Mirrors.masterlist.ubuntu in base-config probably? <sealne> altho apt-setup appears to have hard coded where ubuntu-security is hmm <viviersf> Riddell : PING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <Mez> viviersf, I guess Riddell is asleep - sup? <viviersf> erm <viviersf> im using kde 3.5 on impi <viviersf> cos i think its much better <viviersf> so i came back from leave <viviersf> did a dist-upgrade <viviersf> now when i install impi to the hdd <viviersf> something weird is going on with kdm <viviersf> you know of any problems ? <Mez> depends on what "something weird" <Mez> is <viviersf> lol <viviersf> erm <viviersf> thats what im trying to figure out <viviersf> exactly what is going on <viviersf> gimme couple mins <Tonio_> hi everyone <Tonio_> best wishes <Riddell> sigh <Riddell> viviersf needs to work past the morning if he's to be awake at the same time as me <Tonio_> hi Riddell, best whishes <freeflying_> Riddell: how about dapper install cd now ? <Riddell> freeflying_: I don't know, I'm just about to try it out, ask me again in a couple of hours <Riddell> happy new year Tonio_ <Tonio_> Riddell: sorry for starting the year with a bad news, but I was searching for wlassistant in dapper and couldn't find it... <Tonio_> Siretart uploaded id one month ago <Tonio_> do you have access to see what happened or may I ask to elmo like for pwmanager ? <Riddell> Tonio_: I can't see it anywhere, ask siretart and if he doesn't know ask elmo, and if elmo doesn't know or get back to you ask me to upload it again <Tonio_> Riddell: okay, thanks :) <Riddell> JRe: fancy changing kded's mediamanager into a general hal watcher? <Riddell> JRe: gnome is getting cool stuff like printer plugin clever bits <Tonio_> ho Riddelln I just saw it, thanks for the approval in the kubuntu-team launchpad group :) <Riddell> thanks for joining <Riddell> launchpad made me fight to be able to approve, but I managed <Tonio_> pleasure <Tonio_> I'll start the animated icon for adept this week, as mornfall asked * mornfall forgot <Tonio_> hi mornfall, happy new year <KabelKasper> Riddell: Have you ever seen the CCux-Linux installer? <Riddell> KabelKasper: nope, what is it? <KabelKasper> Riddell: Maybe it can help in developing the GUI of KubuntuExpress <KabelKasper> http://ccux-linux.de/site/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=1&pid=4 <KabelKasper> Riddell: I like it ;) <Riddell> KabelKasper: any idea what it's written in? <KabelKasper> No idea, I just saw it <Riddell> freeflying_: you'll be pleased to know todays install CD works wonderfully <freeflying_> Riddell: hmm , well <_rockie> Riddell: scim-qtimmm still can not be compiled <Riddell> _Sime: displayconfig is giving me a problem http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/488640 <Riddell> on startup <Riddell> freeflying: where is it? what's the problem? <freeflying> Riddell: can not find headerfiles <freeflying> Riddell: will have a look here http://everybody.good-day.net/~ikuya/kubuntu/5.10/ . <freeflying> Riddell: the guy of ubuntu-ja team have patched QT under breezy . and make scim-qtimm compiked cerrrectly <Riddell> hmm, don't support he wants to do the same for dapper? :) <Riddell> we should get him on IRC <Riddell> I'm busy just now but I'll try and take a look at it later <freeflying_> Riddell: he will not works on that for dapper <raphink> wb freeflying_ <freeflying> raphink: hi <raphink> :) <Riddell> _Sime: is pykdeextensions in SVN yet? <sebas> Not that I know. <Riddell> I've spotted a problem or two is all :) <sebas> What kind of problem? <Riddell> the sample app doesn't import kfile <Riddell> and gives the wrong arguments to KFileDialog <Riddell> and the configuration dialogue doesn't work <sebas> Ah, the second one might be a problem with newer pykde, I guess? <sebas> KFileDialog( ... and then try to change None to "", if there's one in it. <Riddell> yes, I did that <Riddell> actuallyt is had KFileDialog(None, One... <Riddell> but there's not such variable as One, don't know what that's ment to be <sebas> Hm, I can have a emily84@example.com. <sebas> How do I reproduce the problem? <Riddell> well it's in the kdeapp in app_templates <Riddell> in pykdeextensions 0.4 <Riddell> that argument should be a filter * sebas tries. <raphink> Riddell: there's a french translation small issue in /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/kaffeine_append_file.desktop <raphink> where shall I report it ? <Riddell> chaning it to "*.html" is all good but I'm curious to know what this One thing is <raphink> I can patch the file it's very fast <raphink> but I'm not sure where to file the bug <Riddell> raphink: qu'est que c'est le problem? <raphink> Riddell: ;) <raphink> Name[fr] =Ajouter la liste de lecture de Kaffeine <raphink> this is the pb <raphink> the desktop file is UTF-8, but the sentence isn't ;) <raphink> it just has to be retyped <raphink> just one character to type ;) <raphink> should be <raphink> Name[fr] =Ajouter la liste de lecture de Kaffeine <Riddell> raphink: ah, well kaffeine is in KDE SVN now so reprting to the kde fr i18n team would be the best way <raphink> instead <raphink> hmm ok <Riddell> raphink: the file will be in SVN l10n/messages/fr/extragear
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