#ubuntu-us-tn 2011-08-01 <cyberanger> orangeninja: are you looking at a 10/100 or 10/100/1000 * cyberanger wants a 10GigE, and a nice fat wallet, unfortunately I have neither <wrst> howdy cyberanger <Unit193> Howja wrst <cyberanger> hey wrst & Unit193 <Unit193> Howdy to you too, cyberanger <wrst> greetings Unit193 <wrst> cyberanger,Unit193 all going well? <Unit193> Wow... That highlight worked well actually... Sure, why not.. <Unit193> wrst: How you doing? * Unit193 tried to setup oidentd to his liking and failed <cyberanger> I'm doing fairly well, massive backup complete <cyberanger> (anything to keep my mind going lately ;-)) <wrst> cool cyberanger, I'm doing well Unit193 <cyberanger> and about to reinstall all my systems <wrst> wow cyberanger <cyberanger> yeah, yesterday I did some router optimizations <cyberanger> and firewall upgrades * cyberanger is getting bored with sitting around on weekends & looking for work is getting old too <cyberanger> (that's not me giving up, just saying something different needed to happen yesterday & today) <cyberanger> got a test for a job on tuesday, and I think I'll get that job <cyberanger> federal job, which is my concern lately, as far as staying in tennessee, idk if that's likely <cyberanger> I put willing to travel, and seems the open positions are elsewhere <orangeninja> cyberanger: it doesent matter I guess... <cyberanger> orangeninja: the difference is speed on the lan, but I've come to the same conclusion a few times myself (a fast lan is nice, the wan is too slow though) <cyberanger> in that case, I really would look at a switch, >$30 <orangeninja> yeah <cyberanger> something that old, made by microsoft, no longer supported (and there is alot of MS networking that just seems to fail for me) <cyberanger> and comcast is a mild improvement <orangeninja> I am on Xfinity so my WAN is pretty fast. I am using a Dlink dgl-4500 wired/wirless N 5Ghz band <cyberanger> but not over 100MB fast I'd bet <cyberanger> your WAN I mean <orangeninja> Oh No.... <cyberanger> Wireless N should be capable of it, but I've learned wifi is more effective at a lower rate <cyberanger> less packet drop, less retransmit, lower signal to noise <cyberanger> makes it effectively a higer rate, due to that * cyberanger wishes he could have explained that better <orangeninja> lol you're fine. All wired ports are filled so if I had a small switch it would open the door to a few more machines for when I am messing around <cyberanger> yeah, that'd be worthwhile <orangeninja> what yall think about getting a linux distro that would run on an old IBM Thinkpad T42 1.6Ghz 512MB ram....LOL <cyberanger> orangeninja: worthwhile <Unit193> Shouldn't be hard <orangeninja> was thinking about a USB drive type like http://spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm <Unit193> I'm guessing cyberanger is going to say something about that ;) <cyberanger> Unit193: we have two logbots here, why repeat <cyberanger> (plus my comments were more towards the DoD using it than us) <Unit193> I do understand that... <orangeninja> whoops I must have missed something good... how do I use a log bot? lol <cyberanger> orangeninja: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/01/%23ubuntu-us-tn.txt <cyberanger> there, it's used ;-) <cyberanger> ubuntulo1_: <orangeninja> lol nice <Unit193> Anyone happen to know oident? <Juzzy> <-- * Unit193 ponders asking a dumb question... <Unit193> Alright, I have two computers running something to do with IRC (one bot), I installed oidentd on the one with the bot 507-653-2812) and I'm running irssi on 507-653-2812. What I'm trying to do is get the bot to answer JITBot (done) but irssi to answer Ukikie, can I do this? (irssi has it set in it's config for that name) Here are my config files http://paste.ubuntu.com/656086/ <Juzzy> from the same user? no <Juzzy> run the bot under a different user. <Unit193> Different computers and forwarding doesn't help either? Dang. <Juzzy> The $HOME/.oidentd.conf file allows a user to specify what ident response will be returned for specific connections. <Juzzy> man oidentd.conf <Juzzy> what I just do is start it using -r <Juzzy> -r Xinu <Juzzy> then any unknown gets returned as Xinu, and any local accounts get resolved as whatever I tell it to <Unit193> Thanks. Looks like I'll just idnore it for now :/ <Juzzy> eh ok <Unit193> From what I understood, I'm not that bright and I would have to make another user for the bot <Juzzy> ya, so? <Juzzy> you should anyways <Unit193> That's very true, but it's not really a fully used bot (Not really in any big channels) Making another user is the only idea I really had too <Unit193> I guess that's on the projects todo list (And getting the cleaning up after it) <wrst> howdy Xpistos <Xpistos> yee-haw! <wrst> Xpistos: good monday? <Xpistos> busy <Xpistos> you? <wrst> busy also, I guess that is good :) * cyberanger wishes he was busy in the same manner <wrst> cyberanger: any luck on that front? <cyberanger> I'm just going through all my computer parts, looking for another project (I'd be looking if I wasn't planning on burning about 4 gallons of gas tommorow) <cyberanger> so I think I have some luck, gotta pass this test & the rest is easy <cyberanger> (I've gotta pass the drug test, they aren't looking for vodka or advil, gotta mention I take Claritan-D though, migitate a false positive, and pass a credit check) <wrst> ahh yes good ol' claritan d i take that on occasion also :) <cyberanger> (my credit isn't pretty, but thankfully they set the bar higher than all my debts, and their only counting deliquent debt above 7500 as a disqualifer, student loans are my biggest issue, and their not dilquent and their not that high) <cyberanger> after that, it's training in Oklahoma City (I think) and from there idk <wrst> I have to say I've always felt checking someone's credit history seems a little obtrusive, while I understand they why <wrst> oh wow cyberanger <cyberanger> well, I'm not a fan of that practice either, but it is an effective anti-bribery measure <wrst> cyberanger: will you be working in the area still? <cyberanger> and hence why I've done that before (However I think they are more worried about theives, either way, the check will be clean enough, and it'll start looking cleaner once they hire me & I earn some paychecks) <wrst> paychecks are a wonderful thing! <cyberanger> indeed <cyberanger> I'm hoping I'll get the huntsville job, closest open position to TN <cyberanger> and in a way, I'll have priority if another opens up putting me back in TN, since I'd have already taken at least some of the tests & passed some of the checks <cyberanger> Gives me priority to another federal job too <cyberanger> so do this for 6 months, look at my options, if they stink, keep doing this <cyberanger> the fact I've made it this far in the process means I'll likely get it <cyberanger> but until then, I keep looking <cyberanger> I keep working on my systems, my radios <cyberanger> anything to keep my mind busy & positive <wrst> huntsville wouldn't be too bad <cyberanger> yeah, and so close to the state line, I could live in TN still <cyberanger> but I applied willing to relocate for any position, so idk <cyberanger> if I'm lucky, I'll get huntsville or North Syracuse, NY <cyberanger> (close proximity to some family, North Syracuse would be nice) <cyberanger> none of TN has a position, if chattanooga did, I'd be happy <cyberanger> one hour's pay covers gas & the next saved up for maintance <cyberanger> and the rest can pay off debts <cyberanger> no moving <wrst> moving stinks :) <cyberanger> and you'll be reminded of that soon enough <cyberanger> if you haven't already <cyberanger> ;-) <cyberanger> the nice bit is I can move out of here fairly quickly, I moved single handedly in 2 hours <cyberanger> I think this time I could cut that in half <cyberanger> I've gotten used to moving from boarding school (at least twice each year for 4 years, that's not counting moving dorms & dorm rooms, which easily make it double) <cyberanger> I've been in this apartment nearly two months, the other unit was just shy of three years, the last time I stayed in one place that long, ended in 2002 <cyberanger> I can see myself going back to that lifestyle, but I'm not wishing for that <cyberanger> wrst: has your move happened yet? <wrst> in a couple of weeks, we have someone coming to look at our house today hopefully they will bite <cyberanger> so you've not moved into the new place then <wrst> no closing next week I do beleive <cyberanger> closing on the new home, I thought that closed already? <wrst> no gotta go next week, after title searches, appraisals etc etc are all complete <cyberanger> ah <wrst> or atleast in theory cyberanger <cyberanger> intresting moves for us ahead then <wrst> sounds more so for you <wrst> i'm just moving 5 minutes cyberanger <cyberanger> wrst: you sure? I was thinking it was 5 minutes away, 5 minutes driving time <cyberanger> only people I know who move that quick live out of footlockers & suitcases <cyberanger> (and since I don't know about myself literally moving, I was seaking figuratively, like a chess game move) <cyberanger> looking at what lies ahead <wrst> ha ha yes driving time... probably take several hours... probably days to get everything moved by everthing I mean piddly junk :) <Xpistos> any body heard from pace_t_zulu lately? #ubuntu-us-tn 2011-08-02 <orangeninja> o/ <cyberanger> wrst: wow, days <cyberanger> you've settled in more than I'll likely ever do <wrst> ha ha cyberanger being settled in is good <wrst> but not is good also ;) <cyberanger> wrst: not saying I'd up & leave, but I do like the option of having good mobility <wrst> i've noticed with your mobile internet setup ;) <cyberanger> that's only the tip of the iceburg, and more for the prepaid nature than mobility, however they do go hand & hand nicely <wrst> cyberanger: live cd's are so nice, my wife is changing schools and needed to get stuff off of her computer at the old school just put in a live cd hooked up an external and copied it over 10 minutes and done <cyberanger> more data can be more time <cyberanger> but yeah, that's how I do it <wrst> oh yeah just but 20GB but about 15 minutes total time <cyberanger> live disc plus two more packages, cryptsetup & lvm2 <cyberanger> (due to my FDE setup) <wrst> FDE? <cyberanger> Full Disk Encryption (hence cryptsetup, and lvm2 deals with my partitioning under FDE) <wrst> yes, something I've just never seen the use in me fooling with <wrst> lvm has given me pains in the past when i had it and didn't need it :) <cyberanger> yeah, limited usefulness <cyberanger> I seem to maintain it enough <cyberanger> learned to deal with it <cyberanger> but it can be a mess <vychune> hey guys <orangeninja> hey vychune <vychune> whats up dude <vychune> am i the only one who didnt know empathy could do IRC lol <cyberanger> vychune: the question is, can it do it well <vychune> define well lol <cyberanger> I never liked empathy & purple-irc just felt weak <cyberanger> so while I knew empathy could, It's on my software "hit list" <vychune> never heard of pulpre irc <vychune> LOL <vychune> hit list really? <cyberanger> purple is the plugin system for finch & pidgin <vychune> oh ok <cyberanger> sudo apt-get purge $(hitlist.txt) <cyberanger> quite literally the command I run <vychune> LOL <cyberanger> sudo apt-get purge $(cat hitlist.txt) <vychune> wow \ <cyberanger> sorry, left out the important bit <Unit193> I may have to rhonda96@example.net... And make my own <vychune> i need to make one <cyberanger> Unit193: it's gotten so long & a pain, it's easier to see my other list & method <Unit193> I was thinking about doing it round about and oddly, but that will work too :P <cyberanger> cli install from the alternate cd, then run <cyberanger> sudo apt-get install $(cat packages.txt) <vychune> whats he installing on? <cyberanger> and a little config work <cyberanger> ubuntu's alternate cd <vychune> ok <cyberanger> select your language, but don <cyberanger> 't click on install, first hit f4 <vychune> any exp with netbooks? <cyberanger> then go to cli install, then continue as usual <cyberanger> boot into the system, and then do that bit <cyberanger> vychune: I own an Asus EEEPC 2G Surf <vychune> i have a knock off <cyberanger> converted it into my router & access point <vychune> cool <vychune> i cant get android off mine lol <vychune> android 1.5 <cyberanger> oh, an android knock off <cyberanger> oh, and an old version, wow <vychune> yep <cyberanger> um, have any terminal software <cyberanger> connectbot, terminal emulator? <vychune> not yet why? <vychune> on the netbook right? <cyberanger> if it was rooted, there might be some options <cyberanger> yeah, android netbook yes <vychune> refuses to be rooted <cyberanger> with what methods? <vychune> automatic <vychune> apk packsa <vychune> theres another way? <cyberanger> version 1.5, hard to believe you couldn't <cyberanger> yeah, depending on the device, there are many <cyberanger> getting root is privalige esclation <vychune> right <cyberanger> so you gotta go for what's technically a privalige esclation exploit, and get it to stick <cyberanger> and 1.5 should have enough holes for that <vychune> ok <cyberanger> I doubt it's using a signed bootloader, and if it were, that should stop getting root, just loading unsigned code like cyogenmod <vychune> ok <cyberanger> forgive my spelling, getting a little groggy, probally heading to sleep soon, when this task finishes no doubt <vychune> thanks * cyberanger looks at the laptop behind him, realizing that the task is unlikely to finish for awhile <cyberanger> shredding partitions and reinstalling <vychune> maybe you should hit the hay <vychune> why are you reinstalling in the first place? <cyberanger> vychune: soon enough <Unit193> You get... Sleep? <vychune> LOL <vychune> i do <vychune> sometimes <cyberanger> battries on charge, gotta either wait or pull them off & mark the remaining time <cyberanger> Unit193: necessary tonight <cyberanger> testing tommorow <cyberanger> TSA job hunting requirement I really should be able to pass <cyberanger> sleep deprivation isn't something I want tommorow <vychune> ikr <vychune> logging off <vychune> got it rooted <cyberanger> wish me luck <cyberanger> chat later <wrst> good luck cyberanger, let us know how it goes <Xpistos> mornin' yo! <Xpistos> wrst <wrst> hey Xpistos you doing ok? <Xpistos> not bad <wrst> good * pace_t_zulu is rebooting <wrst> wb pace_t_zulu looks like the reboot went well <cyberanger> wrst: thanks <wrst> go ok cyberanger? <cyberanger> it went well, as I described before the NDA <wrst> NDA? <cyberanger> don't know how I did, I think I did well, but TSA will tell me later <cyberanger> Non Disclosure Agreement <cyberanger> over test materials <cyberanger> I don't think describing what I knew before the NDA would be an issue, but to play it safe, check the logs so I don't have to repeat <cyberanger> anyhow, gotta wait a week or so for results <cyberanger> wait, email time <cyberanger> TSA is in the inbox <cyberanger> dang, their ignoring my email prefrence again, sent as html <cyberanger> I much prefer text <wrst> ahh cyberanger yes I should have known that <wrst> cyberanger: most of them probably don't use the terminal all the time <cyberanger> wrst: common IT term, much simpler than your avg IT NDA though <cyberanger> & the issue isn't terminal, it's who sends in html <wrst> ahh ok <cyberanger> 9 out of 10 times it marketing, spam <cyberanger> family email & such is dual or just txt <cyberanger> and so I use txt, see html code, check sender, and if it's worth checking, I may switch <cyberanger> html & remote images & such concern me, exploits <cyberanger> I passed, got a contigent offer, 14 days to review and accept (or decline I suppose) <wrst> cyberanger: that sounds good <wrst> or i think? <cyberanger> wrst: sorta, gotta see which post <wrst> ok good, nothing is simple anymore it seems <cyberanger> the subject line suggests one with slightly higer pay & expenses (adak, alaska) <cyberanger> (FAA Airport code ADK, hence my clue) <cyberanger> idk, even if it is, I have time to think & choose <wrst> alaska... wow <wrst> cyberanger: hate to see you leave but have to say if I were single and free to move about that would be pretty tempting :) <cyberanger> indeed, all the more reason to sit back a week and think <cyberanger> I have other offers out, including the TSA <cyberanger> Huntsville would barely mean a move <cyberanger> and I could sit on the state line <cyberanger> others are closer to home <cyberanger> or family * cyberanger wonders if he actually applied for ADK, figures I did, merely to have a better chance at that time <cyberanger> (Decemer 2nd I think is when I applied to a quater of them, another quater the next day, the rest this month) <cyberanger> wrst: and besides, to really see me go, it'd take an op <cyberanger> (wait, my last act as trustee made you an op, D'Oh) <wrst> ha ha ha :) <wrst> nah we aren't going to kick you, you would just over rule and come back anyway <cyberanger> yeah, and then pace_t_zulu would overrule me and strip my rights to op <cyberanger> but you all love me, your kind dictator, right? ;-) <cyberanger> I'll be around on breaks and such, and still help chugalug & this loco progress <cyberanger> and the state loco for that matter * cyberanger didn <cyberanger> t send a meeting reminder out on the 31st, drat <cyberanger> guess tonight's project is GNU Mailman <cyberanger> seems this offer is merely a step in the process, not a job offer or letter of acceptance <cyberanger> I can't use that site easily from a netbook <cyberanger> but I did pass my test gonna head home, be back on in 30 minutes and read on the desktop <cyberanger> oh, and the contingent offer bit seems to be the status on all applications, so that's great news <cyberanger> I may even be able to pick between two or three <cyberanger> pay or location, that'd be the tradeoff <cyberanger> anyhow, see you all shortly <wrst> see you in a bit cyberanger <cyberanger> wrst: nice thing about exciting news, it travels <cyberanger> and it travels fast <cyberanger> (the unspoken part is it travels as fast as the kid in the 1988 Ford F150 can get it out) <wrst> ha ha you have exciting news cyberanger? <cyberanger> I told you the second I got it, at my lunch <cyberanger> passed the test, and got a contigent offer to review <cyberanger> and a job should follow that <cyberanger> (I know I've not landed the job, but it's likely, and the closest in awhile to a solid stable job) #ubuntu-us-tn 2011-08-03 <orangeninja> R u h4X0R? n33d @ jo8? NSA wants you (locked up in a cubicle, not a cell) http://www.itworld.com/security/189101/r-u-h4x0r-n33d-jo8-nsa-wants-you-locked-cubicle-not-cell <orangeninja> cyberanger congrats ^^^^^^^^^ <Unit193> He be pinged out <orangeninja> hah, I saw after I sent it... <orangeninja> duh, explains why I couldnt tab complete his name... <orangeninja> I am smart!! <Unit193> Well, now we get the chance to talk about him ;) <wrst> wb cyberanger <cyberanger> thanks <orangeninja> congrats cyberanger glad you did well <cyberanger> anyone here gone through their old music and current music & just wonder, how did this happen? <wrst> ha ha cyberanger all the time! <cyberanger> wrst: some of it suprises me <wrst> yes some of it I want to burn the evidence! <cyberanger> I have Hootie & The Blowfish, who's lead singer Darius Rucker (Hootie) is now country, the most sucessful african american in country in my lifetime <cyberanger> I've got Eminem in the middle (dear god, what was I on, and who prescribed it) <cyberanger> and now all rock (mostly stuff a little heavier than hootie & the blowfish) <cyberanger> some pop, artists that really lost their art but some reason people still love them <cyberanger> hard to imagine how my music styles have changed, then going a step further, seeing they've changed too <cyberanger> some about as drastically * cyberanger thinks this is worth a blog post, mapping out music history & follow up by following some of the artists as my own timeline changes <cyberanger> cronological comparison, that could be cool <cyberanger> wrst: ever thought of doing that (perhaps without the burned evidenc...music) <wrst> ha ha good idea cyberanger <wrst> i think darius rucker while in hootie was good I hate country music however :\ <cyberanger> I know, it's the same way with me <cyberanger> just heard Let her cry a moment ago, followed shortly by "Don't think I don't think about it" <cyberanger> apperently he did an R&B album in the middle, didn't chart from it though <cyberanger> It was definately different, and actually not that bad <cyberanger> I'd prefer hootie & the blowfish, but that isn't over the top stuff the others do <wrst> yeah I think rucker is way too good to be wasting himself on country <cyberanger> country and rock seem to have merged in areas, if not crossed <cyberanger> makes me wonder if hootie was too mild rock, which now seems to be more country artists than rock going for mild <cyberanger> I hate to admit, I actully forgot about hootie & the blowfish for about 10 years <wrst> i think we all did at some time cyberanger <wrst> ok cyberanger i have a processor running at 73C is that good, bad, or ugly? <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, but compare that to the stuff on the radio now, why? you know <wrst> oh yeah i can't stand the radio <wrst> cyberanger: i've had fan issues and thought that might be a little on the warm side <cyberanger> 73C, seems ok, I think my stuff sits there or higher <wrst> ok I need a new fan for this laptop I may actually look for one since it seems it has been ressurected <cyberanger> however I think I'd want to cool it more <cyberanger> the laptop & netbooks one can only do so much to cool them <cyberanger> and that's the processor, that usually is the hottest component <cyberanger> unless you've got a massive graphics card <wrst> yeah this got so hot the computer shut down and stunk :) <cyberanger> 163.4F <wrst> that's pretty warm <cyberanger> so it got hot and has a cooling issue, that's too much then <wrst> yeah I need to get a fan for it <cyberanger> if cooling is fine, the sensor might shoot high <wrst> yeah this thing got to the point you couldn't have it on yoru lap it got so hot <cyberanger> my cooling is, close to fine, laptop makes the goal unreachable, and 73 to 83c usually <cyberanger> no overheating, since the sensor just reads the exaust I figure <cyberanger> at 83C (181.4) I'd start to wonder <wrst> yeah I'm just glad to see this beast working again probably use it to test random stuff on <cyberanger> and if not, I see a lifehacker article in the works <cyberanger> how to cook eggs like a geek <vychune> hey guys o/ <cyberanger> hey vychune <vychune> how ya doing <cyberanger> good <wrst> hey vychune <vychune> howd the reinstall go? <vychune> o/ wrst long time no seee <cyberanger> vychune: went well <wrst> vychune: i've been here :P <vychune> cyberanger: the android still refuses so i ordered a usb male cord to wipe it with <vychune> wrst: WELL YOU DIDNT SAY NOTHING! <wrst> wasn't in the mood vychune :P <vychune> m||m <vychune> :) <vychune> lol <wrst> cyberanger: what is the best way to set up a file server on linux boxes on a local network, <wrst> and there aren't really any security concerns <cyberanger> cross platform or all linux? <wrst> all linux cyberanger <cyberanger> sshfs <wrst> but wanting it to be auto mounted at boot <cyberanger> at which point any option has to tie into fstab <cyberanger> I hate being tied into acroread <wrst> yeah sshfs does not work so well with that <cyberanger> wrst: nothing works real well with that, since it beats the network up <wrst> yeah i prefer just using sshfs and manually mounting its not preferred but its solid <cyberanger> there is a way to configure fstab but leave out the automount, tie that into if-up & if-down <cyberanger> I agree, samba is the same pain * cyberanger hates acroread <vychune> uninstall it <cyberanger> vychune: yeah I prefer evince <cyberanger> however for this moment, that's not an option <vychune> oh ok <vychune> never heard of evince <vychune> but ill check it out <cyberanger> crunchbang's pdf viewer last I checked <cyberanger> ubuntu has one they use too <cyberanger> kde has kpdf <cyberanger> but browser plugin and adobe only features (features I dislike) are required for the moment <vychune> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh <cyberanger> two forums generated, then it hangs, gotta re-enter everything <cyberanger> rinse & repeat <cyberanger> welcome twayneprice <cyberanger> hey Xpistos <Xpistos> What up peeps <Xpistos> cyberanger: <Xpistos> wrst <Xpistos> Has anyone heard from pace_t_zulu? <Xpistos> \join #nlug <cyberanger> he's been on at various times <cyberanger> Xpistos: he is already there, as are you <Xpistos> yep <cyberanger> good channel usually <Xpistos> if i can master these crazy slashes <cyberanger> Xpistos: anything I can help with perhaps? <Xpistos> I just wanted to make him aware and get his opinion of http://nashvillegreekfestival.com * cyberanger likes <cyberanger> that is the longest dhcp lease ever, wow <cosmicpizza> hi there howdy ? <cosmicpizza> where is my wordpress folder please, i try to find it but i only see my wordpress one to the var/www <cosmicpizza> on my own server of course <cyberanger> ls -l /var/www should point at it <cosmicpizza> thanks but i' m searching for it to my system; not in var/www <cosmicpizza> i can see it in var/www <cosmicpizza> what time is it in tenessee ? <cyberanger> I think something is getting misunderood here, what folder are you seeking <cyberanger> cosmicpizza: two time zones I have 13:23 and to my west is 12:23 <cosmicpizza> i' m searching for another place where wordpress can be <cosmicpizza> ok <cosmicpizza> so afternoon cyberanger <cyberanger> yes, just after lunch for me <cosmicpizza> so you think that there' s no place in ubuntu system where wordpress is ? <cosmicpizza> (not in var /www) <cyberanger> no, it's there, /var/www/wordpress is only a symlink <cyberanger> a pointer to another folder <cosmicpizza> ok so where it' s pointing ? <cyberanger> that's what "ls -l" should show you, and I'm trying to lookup the default location in case it's not <cyberanger> and example of the output of "ls -l" on a symlink <cyberanger> lrwxrwxrwx 1 infocop411 infocop411 6 2011-08-03 17:27 symlink -> target <cyberanger> the symlink is symlink, and it's pointing at "target" <cosmicpizza> i try thanks a lot cyberanger <cyberanger> it should be similar output "/var/www/wordpress -> ???" <cyberanger> cosmicpizza: hope that helps, glad if it did <pace_t_zulu> hello <pace_t_zulu> did i miss something * pace_t_zulu is scrolling up <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: ping <Xpistos> Hey <Xpistos> when you get a change check out http://nashvillegreekfestival.com <Xpistos> I registered it, designed it real quick and an donating the hosting space for the festival <Xpistos> Tell me what you think * cyberanger thinks it's dope <cyberanger> err, greek ;-) <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: i'll be glad to contribute if you need anything done for it <Xpistos> I will let you know. But what do you think? <Xpistos> how does it look? <Xpistos> Custom made <cyberanger> wrst: what would you say if I told you I was expirementing with Dial Up again? <cyberanger> wow, either a busy day or he doesn't want to give that a response <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: looks good <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: I also have google apps, youtube and a twitter setup plus I am debateing to make a facebook page or use the group that is already out there <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: facebook event <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: and post it to the group <Xpistos> most likely <wrst> cyberanger: i would say you are nuts! <wrst> and yes very busy day <cyberanger> wrst: while I might agree, this just seems like a cheap method for after the move <cyberanger> on the off chance my card won't work there (whereever there is, idk still) <wrst> well we arepulling for knoxville ;) <cyberanger> knoxville? <cyberanger> thought you were only going 5 minutes #ubuntu-us-tn 2011-08-04 <vychune> o/ <orangeninja> hello everybody! <vychune> yo orangeninja <orangeninja> hey vychune <cyberanger> wrst: oh, you meant pulling for me to stick around? <cyberanger> in tennessee * cyberanger would rather have chattanooga over knoxville, closer, smaller, no moving for that pay increase (double my last job, and double the hours too) <vychune> Chatt town baby <vychune> went there once and loved it <cyberanger> (at this point though, rather chase a job than stick around, it's easy to to come back from sucess, than stick around for failure) <vychune> *hgih five* <cyberanger> vychune: live outside it, has it's issues like any city, but yeah, it's a great place <vychune> my teacher left Memphis to go back so i think it better there lol <cyberanger> dunno I have the job yet, but I know they've invested enough to find a good reason to not hire me (no reasons exist) or hire me <cyberanger> vychune: oh, apples and orangeninja's <vychune> LOL <cyberanger> don't even try to compare memphis to chattanooga <vychune> HEY! dont be dissing my city bruh lol <cyberanger> maybe nashville, I love it and hate it, I think it's the politics, they try so hard to mimic DC <vychune> really? <vychune> hm,m <cyberanger> or maybe the country music (I'm into Rock, idk) <vychune> love rock <vychune> only black guy at my school that would admit it lol <cyberanger> but it's nice, great lug, hacker group, confrences like PhreakNIC <cyberanger> small cafes nice colleges <cyberanger> memphis, it's got charms too, but just like atlanta, I don't think I'd live too close <vychune> whats the difference between FreakNIC and PhreakNIC? <cyberanger> (I don't even live all that close to chattanooga, but the mountain ranges make for a good buffer <cyberanger> vychune: dyslexia? http://www.phreaknic.info/pn15/ <vychune> lol <cyberanger> (horrible joke, had a DiNizzo moment, from the NCIS Pilot ep. "Is NCIS anything like CSI" DiNizzo: "Only if your dyslexic") <cyberanger> vychune: unless you were thinking of something actually called FreakNIC <vychune> yes <vychune> from at alanta <vychune> nice NCIS referance lol <vychune> lord myt spelling lol <vychune> and typing <cyberanger> NIC comes from your network card the Network Information Controller, Phreak from Phone Preaking, a hacker confrence in Nashville <vychune> ohhhhhh <cyberanger> and Freaknic, I take it this describes it, http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/16/nation/la-na-freaknic16-2010apr16 <vychune> cool <cyberanger> if my Google-fu is up to par <vychune> Google-fu? lol <cyberanger> oh, and PhreakNIC is late this year, this will make up for missing so many confrences <cyberanger> even if I get to OLF in Ohio, I usually goto two or three a year, so far it's zero <cyberanger> and I missed "the last HOPE" & "the next HOPE" (in that order, kinda funny) <cyberanger> now there are more hacker/security confrences & I miss them over & over again <cyberanger> (wreaked a car hours before loading up the same car for PhreakNIC in 2008, so yeah, that didn't work) <vychune> ouch <cyberanger> gotta head to the store, didn't realize it was this late, bbia(very short)b <vychune> o/ <cyberanger> back <vychune> k * cyberanger mmm fresh from the baker <vychune> OHHHHHHHHH <vychune> what you get <cyberanger> an .89 loaf of bread <cyberanger> but it pretty much is fresh from the baker, and cheap at that price <cyberanger> (we've got some bakers in town, and McKee Food's makers of Little Debbie's and other treats, head to the outlet store when they overdue it (about every day) and something is dirt cheap) <cyberanger> get's me another 4-5 on the exp. date, however usually it's gone twice as fast (bought at half the price for the same amount, I'll live with that) <cyberanger> ran out of all my bread, needed something to assist the cheeseburger for dinner <vychune> cool <cyberanger> if PhreakNIC does another Foxhunt, I'll trade thanksgiving for it, man it sounds like an awesome confrence <vychune> sounds fun <vychune> and FireFox related <cyberanger> fun, yes, Firefox, no (however I wouldn't mind some firefox hacking myself) <cyberanger> lemme see here .... <cyberanger> vychune: http://www.newplans.net/WiFi/Games/Basics.htm * cyberanger has thought about playing like a dirty bastard, load up points of the city with some celluar equipped sensors, catch the bugger from the hotel >:-) <vychune> lol <linuxman410> anyone here <Unit193> Nope, just us chickens <vychune> o/ <vychune> sup linux <linuxman410> Unit193 lubuntu flies on my acer aspire one <vychune> the Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuu <Unit193> linuxman410: Aye, if it's any type of new it's going to FLY! <linuxman410> vychune yes lubuntu <vychune> i love lubuntu <vychune> need to burn a cd for it <linuxman410> vychune i change to lubuntu when ubutu went to unity <vychune> i understand thq <vychune> that <vychune> im using natty though <vychune> on gnome 2 <linuxman410> as far as i am concerned i do not like unity or gnome 3 <vychune> should have gopt lubuntu however <vychune> same here * Unit193 is using Lubuntu and Xubuntu natty (And oneirics in VMs) <linuxman410> well i am going to go later <vychune> think youll ever use unity? <vychune> oh bye lol <Unit193> http://ubuntuone.com/p/17xS/ for Lubuntu 11.10 (Not stable) <Unit193> s/stable/finished/ <vychune> s/stable/finished means? <vychune> see code like that all the time what is that? <Unit193> It's sed syntax for switchout the word "stable" for "finished" <vychune> oh ok <vychune> i know what stable means! <vychune> is it beta at least? <Unit193> The words differ a little <Unit193> Not yet! Still alpha almost 3 <vychune> oh no <vychune> i dont want that versoin then lol <Unit193> No you do not, that's why I gave a warning! I do tests mostly for Xubuntu, but a little for Lubuntu (It's not easy doing it for two :/) <cyberanger> vychune: no, never <cyberanger> vychune: run in a terminal "echo this isn't stable | sed s/stable/finished/" <cyberanger> that'll answer that <cyberanger> it's a unix geekspeak <cyberanger> (if you want a visual, maybe it's my sense of wordplay as humour, but I like it) <cyberanger> Unit193: I'd say easy isn't the issue, rather time is, it's time consuming <cyberanger> and LXDE works, idk where Lubuntu's snag is, and it's making me wonder if waiting for it, to have a toehold in ubuntu still is worth it) <cyberanger> (I'd run Ubuntu servers, but the incentive over debian for that is /dev/null so idk) <Unit193> Eh, Lubuntu is nice. We just need to keep you as head poncho :D <cyberanger> poncho? * cyberanger sees no rain <Unit193> 1. noun. Used to describe the leader of a pack. Similar to head hancho except a much better leader and awsomer. <Unit193> :D <cyberanger> oh, well thanks (however one should note, currently I have no offical leadership role atm) <vychune> lol <Unit193> I gorfot. What would I know matters of TN? ;) <vychune> yeah say that again Unit193 <cyberanger> gorfot, your having an intresting night aren't you <vychune> logging off <cyberanger> vychune: why? <vychune> empathy is slowing me down <vychune> brb gonna get irssi <cyberanger> vychune: ah, well, enjoy your night then <cyberanger> or get a better client ;-) <vychune> ill brb <cyberanger> Election & Meeting Tommorow at 8:30 PM EDT/7:30 PM CDT | Welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee Team IRC Channel | Members add your info http://tr.im/nogt | Ask about our Wiki Jams * cyberanger changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-tn to: Election & Meeting Tommorow at 8:30 PM EDT/7:30 PM CDT | Welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee Team IRC Channel | Members add your info http://tr.im/nogt | Ask about our Wiki Jams * cyberanger changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-tn to: Election & Meeting Tommorow August 4th at 8:30 PM EDT/7:30 PM CDT | Welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee Team IRC Channel | Members add your info http://tr.im/nogt | Ask about our Wiki Jams <cyberanger> looks good for a few hours, ugh <cyberanger> man idk, messed this notice up this time <cyberanger> Unit193: note how the word unoffical wasn't metioned ;-) (Lenin recognized the value of idiots even, they can be useful, I however aim for something above idiot ;-)) <Unit193> /msg chanserv topic $chan $topic Not using this? <Unit193> Eh? <cyberanger> Unit193: times I do, times I don't <cyberanger> either way, gotta have enough privalige, and it'll still say topic set by cyberanger <cyberanger> not topic set by ChanServ <Unit193> Topic set by ChanServ (rhonda96@example.net.) (Wed Aug 3 22:50:39 2011) Eh? I don't quite get your fist hilight :/ <cyberanger> Unit193: every time I have, it still says I did it <cyberanger> perhaps an access flag is the cause <cyberanger> other times I just op & do it <cyberanger> I'll use /topic & /msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-us-tn <cyberanger> not at the same time? <cyberanger> not at the same time ;-) <cyberanger> sorry, typing in 5 channels, a bit over the top <Unit193> I'll trust you that it works <vychune> back <cyberanger> vychune: what took ya ;-) <cyberanger> Unit193: same result either way <vychune> forgot how to use this and empathy kept autoconnecting * cyberanger runs his mouth, hides behind service, that's not me, I run my mouth, and somebody shoves my foot in it <vychune> i dont follow you <cyberanger> vychune: ouch (I was merely kidding) <vychune> i see that <vychune> i dont get your joke lol <cyberanger> vychune: I pinged you three (counting this time) the rest was Unit193 & I talking about IRC management <cyberanger> my scarstic humour "what took ya ;-)" <vychune> ohhhhhhhh <orangeninja> Sup gents. <cyberanger> to Unit193 I said as you arrived, I don't like hiding behind IRC services, if I run my mouth, I earned it <cyberanger> orangeninja: not much <cyberanger> vychune: if it still doesn't make sense, perhaps I'm mulitasking a bit too much, getting scattered thoughts <vychune> cyberanger: lol <vychune> orangeninja: o/ <orangeninja> o7 vychune * cyberanger wonders who he has to kill to get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152272 <vychune> doing good? <cyberanger> vychune: glad to hear it, you don't sound too certain about it though ;-) <orangeninja> Yep how you guys doing?? <orangeninja> Just surfing the web and thinking about booting up some EVE. <vychune> good <vychune> watching urameshi <vychune> oh hell naw cyberanger that laptop is too much <cyberanger> vychune: in price or parts <vychune> PRICE! <vychune> goes along with the parts though <cyberanger> I see the part list and man, It'd beat most if not all the servers I've dealt with <vychune> its a nice piee oh hardware for the price <cyberanger> I'd get a rebate (by not agreeing to the EULA for Win7) and at that point it's realistic <vychune> i wouldnt get it though <cyberanger> cheaper than servers at that spec, and they throw in the keyboard & trackball tray, with monitor, and UPS ;-) <vychune> cool <cyberanger> I'm not saying I would pay that much, but I could see having that & this Asus netbook for travelling <vychune> nmh <cyberanger> that much disc & ram, with VirtualBox I'd effectively replace all my rigs in a single blow <vychune> dang lol <cyberanger> 16gb ram, I'd have my main desktop, virtualbox covers my two servers, the EEE for more battery & as my router <vychune> nice <cyberanger> (still need routing functions for anything on wifi, or gaming consoles or something) * cyberanger checks wallet, sees unpaid IOU's * cyberanger grumbles a bit * vychune opens wallet <vychune> tumbleweed <orangeninja> It is a purty laptop though. I'd love one. * Unit193 has a 20 and a paper with 2 movie names from years ago <orangeninja> How bout a barebone DIY laptop? <cyberanger> orangeninja: that laptop is so highend, idk if anyone could pull that off much cheaper (if at all) <cyberanger> when stuff is high end, they usually sell at a loss now, recoup when they level out <cyberanger> (they only lose some labour, when prices drop, they drop at a slower rate than the parts, or so it seems) <orangeninja> Oh, yeah. I have just been looking at something to make and put linux on it. Hate to buy a dell an rip windows off since it was $200 of the price tag <cyberanger> orangeninja: do not accept their EULA, and there is a refund route for that <cyberanger> which is what I'd do <orangeninja> didn't know that. <vychune> FOR REAL? <cyberanger> yeah, kinda obscure, did it once <Unit193> Nice! Now when is the next time we will ever get one... <vychune> LOL <cyberanger> and idk if I'd do it twice (if I were compelled to windows for some obscure thing, like the option to say hell no, and then be told tough luck, you gotta) <orangeninja> cyberanger: if you don't mind, what kind of Acer Netbook you running.... realisticly a net book will probably be my next buy. Though those fancy Android Tabs look good. <cyberanger> I did it once for vista (out of two rigs) I had the laptop for college, and did manage to get all the software in VirtualBox with XP as the guest (VirtualBox has come a long long way since, and the software was picky too) <cyberanger> so the laptop I had to accept, since I had to have windows, and I didn't know the class requirements were not as strict as the paperwork suggested <cyberanger> orangeninja: Asus, not Acer, Asus EEEPC 2G Surf <cyberanger> boot from SD Card to a minimal Ubuntu install <cyberanger> (part CLI, Part Openbox, it doubles as my router & Access Point) <cyberanger> it's a cool little device, made me learn netbooks are only limited by your expectations <Unit193> Anyone else think S76 computers are on the pricy side for not having a $200 Windows? <cyberanger> and I'm too stubborn and persistant, if there is a problem in my expectations, I find them <cyberanger> Unit193: yes, and others too, emporer linux <cyberanger> (for example, I found thunderbird really was built for more than 7 inches of screen, so I themed it to work for html email, but prefer mutt) <vychune> mutt? * vychune google <cyberanger> orangeninja: this EEEPC I would recommend depending on ones needs, between this & my G2, it migitates a laptop often enough <cyberanger> vychune: alpine then? <cyberanger> vychune: http://www.mutt.org/ <cyberanger> vychune: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(e-mail_client) <cyberanger> mutt's slogan "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less" * Unit193 re-alpine (:P ), Thunderbird and Gmail <orangeninja> thanks cyberanger yes Unit193 all linux laptops seem HIGH. Reason I got to looking at the barebone laptop route. Make what you want at a similar price. But it seems I am about 2 years late on that fad. <cyberanger> orangeninja: idk if that was ever a fad, well, a fad with cost benifits <cyberanger> mass production has killed alot of the cost savings in building your own, on top of flimsier parts and laptops never really had the homebrew background that desktops, HTPC's and SFF PC's had <orangeninja> yeah, I admit when I set out to build my last desktop about 2 years ago. It didnt save me much. BUt I think I got out about 200 or 300 hundred cheaper on a similar specked gaming rig from DELL <cyberanger> the funny thing is, that msi book I linked to, I'd add to it, upgrade that 9 cell to a 12 cell at least, some other tweaks <orangeninja> but for an everyday desktop, email, web, cant get any cheaper than going to pick up one at costco or walmart. <cyberanger> so If I did that, it'd last for years sure, but I'd probally drop 2,500 into in to it <orangeninja> I dropped 1500 <cyberanger> yeah, I just do everything to spite everyday <cyberanger> quad core 2.0GHZ, 1.5TB HDD, 16GB Ram, that display is already nice <orangeninja> last desktop I built lasted me 6 years. she is still sitting here, just giving me some video problems here and there <cyberanger> drop the price 200 bucks for kicking Win7 to the curb, hand that right back for a better battery or two, try and get a 12 hour use (linux vs win7 will already cause an efficency increase, so it's not impossible) <orangeninja> was an XP Pro machine. made her 100% ubuntu and it started with video problems. Seems to boot fine with live CD but no video after instal. <cyberanger> mine from that far back might have a failing PSU, shipped with Vista (missed the changeover by a week or it'd been XP) didn't accept the EULA, got cash back for it <cyberanger> my own first rig, did dual boot some, but when I have the choice, 100% linux (it's been Debian more lately) <cyberanger> my first new rig, I should say <cyberanger> perhaps you could run it without xorg, as a server? <cyberanger> at least while you sort out the video issues <orangeninja> maybe so. <orangeninja> I'm still messing with it <orangeninja> this pc I have irssi is a Compaq 3100+ Sempron with 512 MB, 150GB hd, running xubuntu. gets slow if i open mozilla and open 3 tabs or more...HA <orangeninja> mozilla, I mean firefox <cyberanger> orangeninja: you won't do much better, but some of that is xubuntu getting heavier than before <vychune> cyberanger: how do i use mutt lol <orangeninja> yeah I figued xubuntu, was lighter than ubuntu. But I don't know how much. <Unit193> I have a P4 and 2G ram in this and 22 open tabs (Processor...) <Unit193> I so badly wish I could use this Core2Duo on the mantel... <orangeninja> Unit193: that's why I wish I could my former XP machine running properly. it is a P4 2.53 with 2 G ram :( I will get it going dang it! <orangeninja> *running properly with linux <vychune> \o/ <orangeninja> then I could delegate this 3100+ as an irssi console or something.....ha <vychune> hm <orangeninja> SSH in with droid phone from work and crap.... <Unit193> I have OptiPlex GX260 and it has issues (But if I get it running fine, it work 'til I reboot or logout :P ) <orangeninja> Yeah, my wife is getting mad, since I keep bringing home orphaned computers. this 3100+ was my parents old one. My dad bought a XPS Studio!!! I tried to make him give me that one HA! <vychune> Unit193: same comp i have <Unit193> vychune: Issues with it? <vychune> needs ram and a video card with better 3d <vychune> good night! <orangeninja> good night vychune <Unit193> I would make a comment, but I remember doing that before :P <orangeninja> Unit193: what you talking about? <orangeninja> hah <cyberanger> Meeting in Eight hours <cyberanger> $AGENDA <cyberanger> hrm, didn't read the variable, darn <cyberanger> Meeting in Eight hours <cyberanger> $AGENDA <cyberanger> again <cyberanger> Meeting in Eight hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <cyberanger> perfect <wrst> cyberanger: I'm hoping I can make it, we have family in but should be there I think <cyberanger> in wrst's absense, I nominate him Middle Tennessee Leader <cyberanger> ;-) <cyberanger> wrst: family matters, do what you must <wrst> ha <wrst> i respectfully decline :) <wrst> yeah I shoudl be there actually working on my mother in law's computer while she is up <cyberanger> I respectfully draft you into it <cyberanger> :-) <wrst> midtn has a good one already <cyberanger> only if he's re-elected for it <cyberanger> all positions are up, one year term <orangeninja> I am doing laptop surgery. <cyberanger> Meeting in Seven hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <cyberanger> cool, right on the dot <cyberanger> orangeninja: nice, what's the issue <orangeninja> LCD replacement <cyberanger> not too bad then <orangeninja> Oh yeah, my first one though. it is done and working fine now. <orangeninja> unfortunately, could have bought a nice netbook for the price I paid for new LCD and New AC adapter.power supply. I went ahead and bought the HP brand AC adapter though 70 bucks before shipping. <cyberanger> Meeting in Six hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <wrst> cyberanger: you are giving a space shuttlesque count down <wrst> oh we don't have those anymore... :\ <orangeninja> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjvKkmNN Im proud....LOL. <wrst> nice orangeninja <orangeninja> thanks bud. <wrst> laptop repair can be trying <orangeninja> yeah... I guess better than buying a new one this time. But I could have bought or close to it a netbook for parts. <wrst> i'm sure i just worked on a fan and that was bad enough! <wrst> twayneprice: you happen to be aroudn today? <orangeninja> I'll see yall later. I hope to be back in time for meeting. <wrst> see you orangeninja|AFK <cyberanger> Meeting in Five hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <cyberanger> Meeting in Four hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <cyberanger> wrst: yep, trying to get as much membership tonight as I can <cyberanger> esp. after I forgot the email notice till it was too late for the monthly digest <cyberanger> bbiab, should be before the meeting <cyberanger> Meeting in Three hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <cyberanger> Meeting in Two hours <cyberanger> Primary item on our Agenda is Ledership Elections <pace_t_zulu> hey cyberanger <pace_t_zulu> thanks for the notifications <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you may want to re-evaluate your spelling of "Leadership" <pace_t_zulu> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/146/detail/ * cyberanger wipes egg off face <cyberanger> that's what I get for rushing things <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: thanks
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