#ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-01 <mhall119> new blog: http://www.qimo4kids.com/2011/10/qimo-on-zareason-pcs/ <pleia2> mhall119: nice :) <zus> Since there are no longer shipping CD's - Is it on a (Lug) person to provide labeled Cd's for Lug/Cd' releases for everyone attending Meetings and gatherings? * Jake2 forgot all the commands ugh <mhall119> zus: our team will still get Ubuntu CDs, which we will pass out to whomever wants one <zus> hi mhall119 thanks. was kinda thinking on starting up something in my area and was wondering all i would need to get started, <zus> http://bit.ly/qjAuIt lol G+ song <mhall119> zus: itnet7 will let everybody know when we get the team CDs in, so we can arrange to get you some <zus> mhall119, i dont think i will need any just yet <zus> but it did come to mind, of how i was going to get cd's - least i know where resources are. <zus> i pretty much have a place i can hold a get together be it weekly and monthly (as long as people buy some kind of food and drink) <mhall119> zus: we probably won't get ours until closer to the end of the month <mhall119> zus: will you be at UDS? <zus> no, i wont be able to make it <crashsystems> hello florida <zus> hello crashsystems <zus> actually i know nothing about UDS this time around <mhall119> zus: http://uds.ubuntu.com/ <zus> just googled it lol <mhall119> in Orlando again, Oct 31 - Nov 4 <zus> irony = i was just told to take a girl to halloween horror nights.... <zus> im going to be saying a lot of "wait here brb's " <zus> how much will this cost? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-05 <itnet7> Hey there, anyone around for the meeting tonight? I sent out a reminder, but may have done something wrong when sending it out <MichelleQ> I'm here, for what it's worth. <MichelleQ> :-) <maddog_2009> hey <itnet7> Awesome MichelleQ ! <itnet7> OMG it's a Chuck sighting. <itnet7> Hey there maddog_2009 <maddog_2009> hey <itnet7> Well, gonna ping everyone really quick <itnet7> bluebomber Bryanstein cjohnston dantalizing danstoner himuraken jamalta jcastro maxolasersquad_h munz ropetin RoAkSoAx thinkjson tyman zoopster zus: Meeting time, if you can join us <itnet7> Hey there erictee, how are you? <maxolasersquad_h> Present sir! <erictee> What 's up all ! <cjohnston> who woke me up <itnet7> Hey there maxolasersquad_h ! <itnet7> o/ cjohnston <itnet7> :-) <cjohnston> whats up dude <itnet7> Sorry, I know you need your beauty sleep <cjohnston> lo <cjohnston> l <itnet7> ;-) <cjohnston> I'm actually doing a little hacking since ive ignored ubuntu for a while <itnet7> Oh, wow <cjohnston> a nice little 1293 line MP for mhall119 <cjohnston> hehe <itnet7> Well, we were just going to discuss whether or not anyone wants to try and do a more simple event... Marianna contacted me to see if we wanted to do something on either Wednesday or Thursday evening <cjohnston> ok.. <itnet7> they are print up badges and are putting the evening events on them <cjohnston> thursday is the key signing iirc <itnet7> Ah! <itnet7> We really don't have to do anything this time, if everyone is really busy <maxolasersquad_h> itnet7: You mean at UDS? <cjohnston> do we know yet what the evening events are? <itnet7> but I thought we could do something like the Budapest Loco <itnet7> let me read my e-mail <itnet7> re-read I mean <itnet7> Apparently no costume party :-( <maxolasersquad_h> Boo <cjohnston> did they send the email to everyone, or just you itnet7 ? <itnet7> just me... <cjohnston> gotcha <cjohnston> we arent 'chosen'... lol <X-Man> Hi All <MichelleQ> what kind of event do you have in mind, itnet7? <itnet7> lol, I doubt that's it <itnet7> here are the event so far.. according to Marianna <itnet7> 1) Monday 31st: Meet & Greet (this is not going to be a Halloween Party) <itnet7> 2) Tuesday 1st Nov: Happy Hour offered by Rackspace <itnet7> 3) Friday 4th: UDS Party <itnet7> I was thinking we could just put something like "An evening at Downtown Disney" or "City Walk" <cjohnston> I'm trying to think if there is anything that would be 'special' to go to. <cjohnston> i remember last year there were people asking to go to a range <itnet7> I was thinking of maybe asking if we can possibly have the charter bus make a stop at OldTowne <itnet7> Are there a bunch of Ranges close?? <cjohnston> not down there.. <maxolasersquad_h> Disney Quest is awesome. <cjohnston> the closest one that i know of thats big enough to support a large enough group is up by me <itnet7> Is it low cost, maxolasersquad_h ? <maxolasersquad_h> IIRC $20/head. <itnet7> cjohnston: how far do you live from there? <cjohnston> ~40 minutes <itnet7> ah <maxolasersquad_h> Nope prices are up. $37-$43. <maxolasersquad_h> So probably not. * mhall119 has 1293 reasons to hate cjohnston right now <cjohnston> lol <itnet7> rofl mhall119 <mhall119> I also have 1294 reasons to study French instead of reviewing merge proposals <cjohnston> no you dont <X-Man> I read online the Caribe hotel has free shuttles to all of the parks <maxolasersquad_h> All the hotels in Disney have free shuttles to the parks. <maxolasersquad_h> Sorry, Caribe not in Disney. <itnet7> MichelleQ: perhaps a Movie night with PopCorn and Candy, and non-alcoholic refreshments... BYOB * zus apologizes, he missed the tag flag, and was AFK....(and i actually have to leave the house...) <itnet7> I think we might be able to get the plenary room again <X-Man> Is there a projector for the room for the movie? <MichelleQ> itnet7: popcorn/candy/etc. would be fun <itnet7> X-Man: yup, last year we had ironman2 <itnet7> MichelleQ: I think it would be fun and economical <X-Man> Maybe Office Space a movie option <MichelleQ> could rent a popcorn machine <itnet7> Yeah <itnet7> I was unable to secure a good deal on the pathtags <MichelleQ> :-( <mhall119> OMG, maddog_2009 is here? <itnet7> We can get some made a little later <itnet7> ROFL, he is mhall119 <MichelleQ> quick, someone get a screencap <itnet7> MichelleQ: I have a really, really cool idea about pathtags <itnet7> We'll talk about it at the loco party <MichelleQ> sounds good <itnet7> I do have another idea though of something we can give away... to remember this UDS <itnet7> and it won't cost much at all <maddog_2009> sound good <itnet7> X-Man: I would love that <itnet7> Office Space Rocks! <maddog_2009> How about Space Balls <itnet7> I would say we can pick up a couple, and let everyone choose but that would be crazy <itnet7> Well, what night if we were to do something would be best for everyone? <itnet7> I wish that they would create a link like: http://uds.ubuntu.com/EveningFestivities and use a QR code on the badge, that way it's not so static <maxolasersquad_h> This may sound crazy, but I think it would be fun to do a fish, grits and sweet tea night. <maxolasersquad_h> Something very southern. <itnet7> It doesn't have to be EveningFestivities link... just an example <maxolasersquad_h> Boiled peanuts. <itnet7> maxolasersquad_h: that might be cool, but you remember what happened on "Airplane" the movie? <itnet7> ;-) <maxolasersquad_h> No eggs then. <itnet7> lol <cjohnston> itnet7: you mean like http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ <itnet7> oh is it already there <itnet7> Yeah, except the way that Marianna was describing, they were going to print all of the events on the Badge <cjohnston> maybe ask her not to and just qr to ^ <itnet7> Yeah, that's what I'll do <itnet7> how many of us are going to be there most of the time? <maxolasersquad_h> I'm planning on being there all week. <itnet7> I know that erictee said he's not going to be there all week <cjohnston> iprolly will <itnet7> maxolasersquad_h: I'm still working on the room <cjohnston> since im like the crew chief or something <itnet7> :-) <maxolasersquad_h> itnet7: Cool. <MichelleQ> maxolasersquad_h: love the southern idea <itnet7> I wish I had unlimited resources, I would rent the following: <itnet7> a huge bouncy house with a slide, a set of sumo padded wrestling suits <itnet7> and a bunch of other things <cjohnston> i thought you did have unlimited resources <maxolasersquad_h> I love bounce houses. I had one at my wedding. <MichelleQ> mhall119's team is sprinting (I think) so he'll be there, but I'm not sure how much he'll *be* there. <maxolasersquad_h> And a slip n slide. <itnet7> MichelleQ and maxolasersquad_h do you think it would be expensive to have a fish fry catered, or is it something we can do? <maxolasersquad_h> itnet7: I think the hardest part about doing a fish fry would be having a kitchen where we could do it. <cjohnston> Something like that I think is gonna be hard.. I see the pizza thing happening all over where more people showed up than rsvp'ed <maxolasersquad_h> Unless we rented some big fryers and did it outside. <MichelleQ> the hotel would probably take issue with that, too <itnet7> Yeah, Party poopers <MichelleQ> popcorn/candy though - very doable. <itnet7> Yeah <maxolasersquad_h> MichelleQ: Yeah. I've cooked for hundred of people many times, but catering seems the only realistic solution, if we do it. <MichelleQ> yup <itnet7> Especially with it being so close to Halloween <itnet7> How about a Costume Movie night, with a contest for best dressed? <MichelleQ> Can do, but would that interfere with the costume party scheduled for Friday? <itnet7> http://www.eventfun.biz/PopcornCottonCandySnowConeMachineRentalsMichigan.html <MichelleQ> erm, that's Michigan. <itnet7> Oh, wow, I didn't notice that on that link <itnet7> superheroes <itnet7> Yeah, so scratch that <MichelleQ> ah, they have one in Olrando, too. <MichelleQ> apparently <itnet7> 2015 Directors Row, Orlando, FL 32809 <MichelleQ> We should be able to find one local <itnet7> Well, let's decide which night <MichelleQ> Wednesday to me seems like the better night. <X-Man> Wednesday +1 <itnet7> I was thinking that night would be best, as some of the people that have told me they are not planning to be there Thursday <cjohnston> as far as after stuff, i dont know what my plan will be, but i plan to be there during the day all week <maxolasersquad_h> I'll be doing Disney with the family that weekend. <itnet7> cjohnston: no worries <cjohnston> i could be in pensacola or lakeland on saturday too.. lol <MichelleQ> Loco part on that Saturday evening. <cjohnston> right <maxolasersquad_h> itnet7: I may ask you to rent the room Saturday and I'll pay for that whole day. <cjohnston> i have family in the panhandle that i might need to go see <itnet7> MichelleQ: Do you think you might have time to check on how much it would cost to rent a popcorn machine? <itnet7> maxolasersquad_h: I think we are planning to check out on Sunday <maxolasersquad_h> Oh, cool. <MichelleQ> itnet7: I'lls ee what I can find <itnet7> MichelleQ: they have snow cone machines, and cottoncandy as well <itnet7> can you see if there's a deal for more than one? <MichelleQ> Cotton candy would be fun <MichelleQ> sure <itnet7> Yeah, I will have to stay away from it, but I think everyone would enjoy that <MichelleQ> We could totally do a cheesy movie night - "The Blob", "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" etc <itnet7> Once we find out what we're going to have as far as that stuff goes, we can mail the list for volunteers to run them... <itnet7> You know what would be great! <itnet7> if we could get the Creature from the Black Lagoon in 3-D and get those blue/red glasses <MichelleQ> Sorta vaguely Halloween-meets-old-Hollywood thing <itnet7> I don't even know if it's available on vhs/dvd, but I remeber scoring my glasses from the 7-eleven or the TV Guide when I was like 7 or 8 <zoopster> it's likely the hotel has some if not all of that stuff <zoopster> oh hi ya'll o/ <itnet7> hey there zoopster !! <MichelleQ> howdy, and which stuff? <zoopster> popcorn mach <zoopster> cotton candy mach <itnet7> popcorn machine, et al. <itnet7> zoopster: do they have a bouncy house?? <MichelleQ> ah, thought you meant 3-d glasses <itnet7> j/k <zoopster> doubtful <MichelleQ> maybe Marianna could put a feeler out with the hotel for us? <zoopster> a lot of us will be there the week prior <itnet7> I will let here know what we are planning, and ask her if she can check <MichelleQ> sounds good. <zoopster> canonical has the entire conf center for 3 weeks <MichelleQ> I'll call around and get some quotes, too <itnet7> zoopster: wowzers <MichelleQ> wow <zoopster> so they should GIVE it to us for that <zoopster> ok...maybe not the entire conf center, but a large part of it <itnet7> zoopster: what do you think about b-rated horror movie? <zoopster> I was going to suggest that <jcastro> hi, sorry I am late <itnet7> I would love to show Evil Dead II, but I think some people really might not like it <itnet7> hey there jcastro ! <jcastro> there's going to be a QA session thing on Wednesday night, but kind of early ish <jcastro> you should shoot for movies for wednesday after the QA thing <itnet7> Any a good starting time? 8 or 9 pm ish, so that people have a chance to go and eat if they want to? <itnet7> that should have read, Any good idea for a... <zoopster> 8 would likely be best <zoopster> much later and people bail <MichelleQ> I agree <zoopster> last year most socialized vs watched the movie so having snacks/drinks/social area would be good <itnet7> Okay, So we're going to suggest the QR code for http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ <itnet7> but if they don't want to, I will send her a description of what we plan for 8 pm on Wednesday evening <X-Man> What time is the QA session scheduled to end? <itnet7> We should really try to encourage sign ups... <itnet7> X-Man: it usually ends around 6:00 if remember right <itnet7> jcastro: ^ is it a Mark Q & A <jcastro> oh no, I mean QA as in quality <itnet7> in one of the session rooms <itnet7> OH <jcastro> it's like an hour long workshop <itnet7> what time is it scheduled to start? <jcastro> I don't have a start/endtime yet <itnet7> oh <itnet7> I still think 8 should be good <jcastro> however, someone mail marianna with the idea, CC me, and I'll ask evan to make sure that he doesn't do it all late <jcastro> that works out actually, I think people would love scary/cheesy movie night. <MichelleQ> works for me. <itnet7> jcastro: cool, I will cc you and the team on my reply to Marianna <itnet7> oh <itnet7> nevermind, your getting team mail, right? <itnet7> :-) <jcastro> I have no idea actually, hehe <jcastro> djennings@example.org works though <itnet7> Cool, Maybe we can put a poll up with a couple of cheesy movies, or does everyone think we should just pick one... The Blob might be good, and there are a couple of other really good ones. Invasion of the Body Snatchers? <jcastro> oh also, put the AV requirements in the mail <itnet7> jcastro: will do <jcastro> we could also do a straw poll for the movie the afternoon of plenaries <itnet7> I was hoping we could secure the plenary room again if it's set up similar <jcastro> that should be easy <itnet7> Yeah, that would be cool <zoopster> it should be...and don't worry about av we'll ensure there is a projector, screen, and sound that's simple <jcastro> we could just reuse the stuff there <jcastro> it's already set up <zoopster> yea, exactly <itnet7> Yeah, that worked pretty well last time <jcastro> at most we might need a DVD player, but I say just find a laptop with a DVD player, probably easiest <zoopster> providing something fun and entertaining will be key <MichelleQ> cheesy movies should fit the bill <itnet7> We probably need to create the event, once I confirm with Marianna, and start trying to encourage rsvp's <itnet7> MichelleQ: about the LoCo Party, the weekend following... How can we help... what do we need to bring? <MichelleQ> if you'll bring a side. Mike and I will supply meat (or non-meat, for Jimmah), and drinks <itnet7> Cool <maxolasersquad_h> is there going to be a Loco party the weekend immediately after in Orlando? <itnet7> maxolasersquad_h: yes <itnet7> Saturday evening <maxolasersquad_h> Cool. What times and where? <MichelleQ> anytime after 4p, and my house <itnet7> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1084/detail/ <MichelleQ> Lakeland, about 20 minutes from the UDS venue <itnet7> MichelleQ: if you need any help with anything else for the party, please let us know! <MichelleQ> will do. I likely won't be at UDS much, working on getting everything ready. <itnet7> Sweet, well I think this is going to be another great event!! <MichelleQ> Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone. <MichelleQ> :-) <jcastro> itnet7: aha, the BoF is at 7 <jcastro> so assuming an hour or 1.5 hours, 8 or 8:30? <itnet7> 8:30 might be better then <MichelleQ> itnet7: keep me posted. I'll let you know what I find re: machines. <MichelleQ> I'm off to bed. Night, everyone. <itnet7> thanks MichelleQ, gnight <itnet7> I will copy the list on the e-mail I send out to Marianna. I think we should plan to have everything in place around 8 ish and look towards everyone showing up around 8:30 and shortly after start the movie. <itnet7> gnight everyone, and thanks for all the great ideas! <zoopster> see ya there itnet7 <itnet7> looking forward to it zoopster ! <X-Man> Good night itnet7 <X-Man> good night everyone <itnet7> ttys X-Man <maddog_2009> gn <ghuru> hey all <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping <DammitJim> does paying with paypal using a credit card charge you more than if using a checking account? <zoopster> DammitJim: paying via paypal has no charges <zoopster> DammitJim: receiving money is where they charge <zus> hey guys <zus> sorry i had to jet from the meeting , had some bad news drop on me <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: pong <itnet7> zus: sorry to hear that <zus> itnet7, my realy good friend was in icu all last week. and i didnt know, <itnet7> zus: is he recovering (hopefully)? <zus> he is out of icu now but saturday he was so close... <itnet7> Oh... Glad to hear that he is out now <zus> and on top of that my step mum had a severe anxiety attack and is in icu <zus> in a different hospital <DammitJim> ty <zus> itnet7, yeah, miricales happen i can say that #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-06 <maxolasersquad> Anyone else running Oneric yet? <itnet7> maxolasersquad: I am <cjohnston> i have been since a2 <maxolasersquad> Has it been stable over the last week? I'm upgrading my work laptop now and feeling kinda antsy about it. <cjohnston> I haven't had issues on my lappy.. the desktop had a few issues <zoopster> maxolasersquad: there is one outstanding issue with compiz that seems rather severe and some other minor issues, but even with the compiz issue everything continues to work...it just looks "frozen" while it restarts compiz and then comes back. <maxolasersquad> zoopster: Is the compiz issue with a certain graphics card, or is it across the board? <zoopster> maxolasersquad: not card specific <zoopster> it looks like some sort of race condition...haven't looked at the detail and it doesn't seem widespread so it might be interaction with a specific set of conditions <zoopster> no one else mentioned it <maxolasersquad> Updates complete. I just have to wait for a local process to complete and I can reboot. <maxolasersquad> I really dislike how much space "Our Start Apps" takes up in software center. Lots of screen realestate used for a feature I'll never use. <itnet7> maxolasersquad: I have upgraded two of the machines I use daily. There are couple of apport crashes here and there, but nothing that has prevented me from working or doing what I need to <itnet7> today the RC was released, no? <maxolasersquad> Yes, today is RC. <maxolasersquad> Which is why I sprung for the upgrade. <maxolasersquad> 5 more days. <maxolasersquad> If anyone is interested the Ultimate Frisby championships are going to be played in Sarasota the weekend before UDS. <maxolasersquad> They are always great fun. <itnet7> I think you'll really like some of the changes <itnet7> maxolasersquad: sweet! I used to love seeing the Frisbee pros! <maxolasersquad> I have it on my laptop, but I haven't been using it much because it doesn't charge the battery, which removes the mobile feature of it, so I usually just use my desktop. <itnet7> I do have one problem with one of the laptops since upgrading, it suspends on it's own regardless if any powermanagement settings <itnet7> I was waiting to do the latest updates after the RC, then I'll report it <maxolasersquad> itnet7: Yeah, mines doing the same thing. <itnet7> I reported the other bugs <itnet7> is yours a Dell 6500? <maxolasersquad> Dell 1420. <itnet7> Ah.. <itnet7> It freaked me out the first time it did it <maxolasersquad> On the plus side, suspend and resume work well. <itnet7> I was like.... Wow, how did this get suspended <maxolasersquad> I just thought for the longest time that was the default power management behavior. Just yesterday I went to change it and saw that it was set to never suspend. <itnet7> Yes... except when I resume, the battery indicator shows a missing battery <maxolasersquad> :( <itnet7> but the battery has full charge. <itnet7> I will try and do updates tonight to see if it's fixed as a lot of things have been fixed along the way <maxolasersquad> I'm taking my laptop in for repairs tomorrow. I hope it can be fixed. I'm already in a position of problaby needing to buy a new car. <itnet7> Wow! <maxolasersquad> My VW either has a thrown rod or a bad piston. <mhall119> the camper van? <maxolasersquad> Yes. <itnet7> :-( <maxolasersquad> I may get it fixed in the long run, but probably shouldn't look at it as a primary vehicle anymore. <maxolasersquad> Have a good night all. <itnet7> you too, maxolasersquad <DammitJim> how can one test the webcam on a netbook? <DammitJim> no option to turn the camera off <govatent> hello everyone <govatent> it's been a very long time. #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-07 <zoopster> what type of motor maxolasersquad? I've been known to work on vw vans...LOVE 'em. <zoopster> itnet7: known power management issue fixed now in the gnome 3.2 release...update my friend. <zoopster> maxolasersquad: http://pad.lv/869620 <itnet7> maxolasersquad: last night's updates fixed my powermanagement issue I was seeing... at least I'm pretty sure <itnet7> oh <itnet7> Yeah... whoops <maxolasersquad> itnet7: Yeah, mine to. <itnet7> Didn't see what zoopster had posted earlier :-) <maxolasersquad> I updated and rebooted when I got home and all was fixed. <maxolasersquad> I had a lot of crashes when I rebooted my work machine this morning, but after applying the updates and rebooting all seems stable save for a crash in vino-server on boot. <itnet7> I feel like a kid with a new toy when seeing all of the new features, and it's even better when things get fixed like that <itnet7> oh, sweet <maxolasersquad> I was worried because I use some 20+ ppa's. <itnet7> I haven't had anymore of the zietgeist and nautilus crashes that apport kept throwing <itnet7> Yeah, I know what you mean. I only use about 10... but still 10 is a lot too <maxolasersquad> The backup tool is my favorite new addition. <itnet7> I haven't had a chance to check it out, but I would like to since a lot of people always ask me what I use, and look at me strange when I mention rsync.. :-P <itnet7> I have heard it's good <maxolasersquad> It supports just about anything over a network, ssh, samba, ftp, webdav. <itnet7> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1330/detail/ <--- Our event added to LoCo Directory... <maxolasersquad> I'm going to point my parents and brother to my online backup location. <itnet7> Ah! <itnet7> cool <maxolasersquad> It will also encrypt the backup, so if someone compromises your offline machine, they can't get your backups. <maxolasersquad> Worst thing I've experienced is scrolling in Gwibber is obnoxious. <itnet7> Oh, I haven't even tried to use gwibber in oneiric yet... Will have to see if it's like that for me too, Hopefully tonight I'll get some time <govatent> hello <itnet7> hey there govatent ! How are you doing?/ <govatent> I am good. Setting up irssi finally on my nslu2 so i can continue to be in the irc as often as i used to be. <itnet7> govatent: Sounds cool!! <govatent> i got all registered for uds. <itnet7> govatent: are you able to make the whole week (just curious) <govatent> i know ill be able to. <govatent> i plan on going up sunday <govatent> i was going to ask if you were going to be doing similar housing as last time <itnet7> I have a meeting in about 15 min. another 11 year veteran is leaving <itnet7> govatent: I am working on getting another 3 room suite <govatent> count me in for sure. i am waiting to hear back how other chris will be with school. <itnet7> cool, I am trying to see if I can get it from Saturday before, until the Sunday after. <itnet7> You can always come up our way earlier, and stay with us a day, you know <govatent> i won't be leaving Saturday because I promised someone I would show up to some Halloween party <itnet7> I think Sunday, we're going to do something with Milo and Paolo, and lupine <itnet7> govatent: no problem <itnet7> just wanted to let you know you're always welcome to come and hang out/visit <govatent> thanks <govatent> on a good note, ill be done with school in 2 weeks. <itnet7> Sweet! <govatent> so when i am up there i can actually relax and enjoy uds <itnet7> That's Great, I think you will get much more out of it, without all of that stress <govatent> i am trying to start moving my mail from evolution to thunderbird. I read they got rid of evolution in the new build <itnet7> govatent: I have switched, it's actually a pretty good mail client <govatent> i started playing with the current beta in vbox. i like how its coming along. can't wait to actually install it on my system. <itnet7> with a couple of plugins, it does exactly what I need it to do, and somethings are much better in Thunderbird <govatent> i used to use thunderbird before evolution. <itnet7> THis is coming from someone how actually loves evolution <itnet7> someone who <govatent> i like both clients <govatent> i just like to use the one that is set as default with ubuntu. so i am switching again <itnet7> I was worried that Thunderbird wouldn't do everything I have grown to rely on in evolution <itnet7> the only thing I haven't played around with are rules <itnet7> be back in a bit... work meeting <govatent> ok <maxolasersquad> At work I use Evolution for the Exchange support. <maxolasersquad> I don't like Evolution because it freezes up and can take minutes sometimes to pull up a single email. <maxolasersquad> And contact lookup can take some time as well. <maxolasersquad> It's like it doesn't cache stuff locally for immediate access. <maxolasersquad> I've got someone locally who will probably be coming to UDS on Friday. <maxolasersquad> And it turns out one of my understudies is enjalot's girl. <govatent> I don't mind evolution. I have always found it a tad slow compared to when i used to use thunderbird. but this is many releases ago and i don't know how they compare now. but ill be using the new thunderbird next week now so ill see. if i only i could figure out how to move my mail easily <mhall119> holy crap! <mhall119> it's govatent!!!!!!! <MichelleQ> govatent: Read this "I don't mind evolution." Brain went "Natural selection FTW." <maxolasersquad> In that light, I would be much more respectful of evolution if we had lazer vision by now. <govatent> lol <govatent> how's it going mhall119 <govatent> long time no chat. <govatent> at least it seems to me. <govatent> i have been so busy with "life" <mhall119> govatent: it has, how are things? <govatent> Hanging in there. finishing school in 2 weeks. going to try to find work or expand my business on my own. traveling out of the country for a month in December and going up for UDS this month. <MichelleQ> maxolasersquad: you'd have to change your nick to maxolazervision <govatent> mhall119: how is the family? <mhall119> govatent: we're good <maxolasersquad> MichelleQ++ <govatent> cookie? <itnet7> maxolasersquad: +1 Lazer vision * DammitJim hands out cookies to govatent <govatent> HELLO DammitJim! <DammitJim> what's up, dude? <govatent> nothing much. slow day today. <DammitJim> where? <govatent> at home. no school or work today. small job at 4. then need to be home at 7 for family dinner. <itnet7> !cookie govatent <itnet7> oh.. i guess that isn't working anymore.. unless I forgot the correct syntax <govatent> i think that was the correct syntax <DammitJim> sup itnet7 ? <itnet7> How are you, DammitJim ! <DammitJim> I'm doing alright <DammitJim> just struggling with mysql <itnet7> I'll trade you, I'm struggling with waik (m$ junk) <DammitJim> are you saying you don't like working with MS stuff? ;) <itnet7> subtle, aren't I? <DammitJim> very much so <DammitJim> ;) <DammitJim> how are the tattoes? any new ones? LOL <DammitJim> I don't know why I just asked that <itnet7> No, not really... Wanted to go and get some work done... kind of strapped financially, so tattooes are the first thing to give up :-( <itnet7> but things are looking up. So maybe soon :-) <DammitJim> lol... I watched that movie Bridesmaids last night and got totally grossed out by the British roommate that got a free tattoo on the street <itnet7> oh, I think my wife had borrowed that, but I ever really had a chance to watch it with her <govatent> i wanted to watch it because it has the Irish guy from the IT Crowd show. <itnet7> Oh, wow, If I would have known that, I probably would have at least made an effort to watch it <itnet7> I love the IT Crowd <govatent> he plays a cop i think <maxolasersquad> If the cosmos is just, there is a special place in hell for bad coders, and special rewards in heaven for those who fix the bad code. <govatent> When is the release party in the central florida area? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-08 <GOVATENT> I am currently playing around with mIRC on my windows partiton. Being that I love gui's I must say, I find xchat to be a lot cleaner and easier to use. <mhall119> GOVATENT: there's xchat for windows, btw <GOVATENT> mind blown. :) <GOVATENT> crashsystems! <crashsystems> GOVATENT! <GOVATENT> how's it going? <crashsystems> good, and you? <GOVATENT> good. working on a research paper. "the history of the internet" :P <GOVATENT> school paper. <crashsystems> sounds like fun <GOVATENT> very <GOVATENT> although its more about how the internet has had an impact in societies <GOVATENT> last i spoke to you, you were moving. how did that all go? <crashsystems> very well. I'm living in sunnyvale ca currently <GOVATENT> glad to hear that. <GOVATENT> i am trying to figure out what ill make of myself. 2 weeks left of school. no certs yet. <crashsystems> what are you majoring in? <crashsystems> GOVATENT ^ <GOVATENT> its a Bachelors in Network Communications management <GOVATENT> my courses were generic stuff <GOVATENT> cisco, ms, linux, um..just about everything related to telco stuff <crashsystems> if you decide you'd be interested in going into web security, let me know <GOVATENT> i need to decide what id like to work with and get the certs for it. <GOVATENT> i assume your doing web security? <crashsystems> yep <crashsystems> Yesterday I had the opportunity to use an html5 audio tag in a cross site scripting injection. That pretty much made my day. <GOVATENT> mind blown. while i understand a fair amount of this stuff, its not my djennings@example.org. <GOVATENT> although i do enjoy doing network security. <crashsystems> most of what I know I learned on the job <GOVATENT> I was avoiding applying for jobs cause i feel like even for entry level i want to make sure i really understand as much as i can. <GOVATENT> I was actually thinking about trying to see if i can get in with military telecommunications <GOVATENT> are you going to make it to uds? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-09 <crashsystems> nope <jbander> I have a problem in ubuntu1104 my sound just quit ,it works in windows if I boot it to windows but not in ubuntu ,can someone help me <mhall119> jbander: did you check your volume level in Ubuntu? <mhall119> some cards I've seen default to either muted or very low volume after an install <jbander> how do i do that werte do i go <jbander> it has woked for the last 6 months in ubuntu <jbander> wheres the volume control <jbander> thank you it was muted somehow #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-10 <jimmah> yay! pak33m registered for the release party with two additional and super cute attendees :) <jimmah> hehe, I mean loco party <ghuru> hey all <ghuru> anyone good at bash scripting? <mhall119> nobody is really good at bash scripting, we mostly just type semi-randomly until something works <ghuru> hello? <itnet7> ghuru: hey there, what are you trying to do? <ghuru> hey itnet7 <ghuru> just a simple bash script <ghuru> but i am having a stupid problem <ghuru> du and sort it by name <itnet7> I might be able to help you with a 'simple' one <ghuru> so for example <ghuru> du -h --max-depth=1 --exclude "./.*" | sort <ghuru> try that on your laptop and you will see <ghuru> crap got it to work <ghuru> but open for other ideas ;) <itnet7> You can base other parameters to sort it by size and all with still displaying the name, not sure exactly what you really need. <ghuru> i actullay found something simple <ghuru> du -h --max-depth=1 --exclude "./.*" | sort -k2 <ghuru> -k2 sorts it by the 2nd column, which is the name <ghuru> you can still send me yours itnet7 <itnet7> ghuru: I pm'd you the one that I have used in the past, might not be what you're looking for #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-12 <govatent> I just supported amazon's mp3 store with banshee. it was a very nice user experience <jamalta> so what project would a bug regarding the top menu go under? <jamalta> well, the switch user menu <maxolasersquad> Probably Unity. <maxolasersquad> In 11.04/10? <jamalta> 11.10 <maxolasersquad> I'd think that would be Unity. <jamalta> maxolasersquad: ty :) <maxolasersquad> np <maxolasersquad> Usually you can type "xprop WM_CLASS" in a terminal and then click an application to get the correct program, but that doesn't appear to work with the Unity widgets. <jamalta> oh interesting <jamalta> didn't know that <mhall119> yeah, it doesn't have a WM_CLASS <jamalta> Does this seem like the right place for this bug? http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/872908 <mhall119> jamalta: they'll move it if they need to when triaging <jamalta> mhall119: alright, ty <maxolasersquad> jamalta: I've noticed the same problem. I marked it as affecting me. <jamalta> maxolasersquad: ty <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: ping <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: pong <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: who handles bug with pastebin.u.c? <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: no idea, I don't think it's ISD though <RoAkSoAx> ok <RoAkSoAx> thanks ;) <mhall119> np <dantalizing> morning <mhall119> morning dantalizing #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-13 <maxolasersquad> Happy Ubuntu Release Day! <maxolasersquad> 6 hours to release. <bogmc> yes! <dantalizing> morning <mhall119> morning <mhall119> happy release day everyone, Oneiric is officially out! <maxolasersquad> Then thefinalcountdown is full of dirty lies. <mhall119> and dirty 80s one-hit-wonders <dantalizing> mmm... dirty 80s <DammitJim> happy release date!!!! <DammitJim> why is oneric ocelot not LTS? <DammitJim> oneiric <mhall119> DammitJim: because LTS's come very 2 years <mhall119> 12.04 will be an LTS <DammitJim> are a lot of people then waiting for 12.04? <DammitJim> I guess you can always upgrade, right? <mhall119> yeah, you can upgrade to whatever you want <mhall119> probably businesses will wait for 12.04, and most people using it on a server <zoopster> oh crap...now I'm 2 releases behind on my server, ugh <mhall119> zoopster: yeah, mine is 10.10 too <DammitJim> if it's running fine, don't upgrade ;) <zoopster> heh...but then I don't get to play with the new cool stuff <zoopster> actually I'm starting to move my websites to S3 <zoopster> just don't like not being about to assign root domain names to them :( <DammitJim> I hear ya <DammitJim> VM for the new cool stuff <zoopster> actually I "should" do the opposite...keep the host upgraded and keep my prod stuff on a vm <DammitJim> lol... it should all be a vm cluster :0 <dantalizing> wonder if there is a juju charm for "upgrade" <mhall119> dantalizing: I think that's more of a puppet/landscape thing <dantalizing> its still service management <mhall119> juju is more deployment management I think <dantalizing> i'm not sure what the stated design goals are, but there is more in there than just puppet/chef/whatever for the cloud. i dont see specific upgrade charms, but i dont see why it couldnt be done .. tricky but doable <zoopster> dantalizing: you and I both know that you don't upgrade cloud/vm based images <zoopster> rip and replace! <zoopster> and use juju to redeploy <akgraner> zoopster, everytime I see/hear juju I think of sammy hagar :-) <zoopster> heh...yea, but that's bad juju! <akgraner> and charms well I think lucky charms cereal :-/ <akgraner> this out to be fun interviewing developers at UDS about this - I think I can get through it without giggling just a little <akgraner> s/out/ought <mhall119> akgraner: it makes me think of juju bees <mhall119> jujubes, however it's spelled <mhall119> but now that you mention it, I feel compelled to write a webapp and call it lucky, just so I can make a charm for it <akgraner> hehe :-) <akgraner> too funny <dantalizing> is it bad that 2 minutes ago was the first time that i saw the online tour? how long has that been there? <mhall119> dantalizing: hours <dantalizing> me likey <mhall119> it is very nice, isn't it? <mhall119> I hear sending email works too * mhall119 hasn't tried that yet <dantalizing> I <3 me some rackspace <itnet7> mhall119: we'll have to get jujubees to give away during the horro show ;-) <mhall119> that's be fun <itnet7> s/horro/horror/ <itnet7> People around here at work are genuinely excited about the new release <itnet7> That Rocks! <itnet7> I'm about to my first clean install, on my other other work laptop <itnet7> They issued us laptops when they took over our departments with what the deamed as the latest greatest OS <itnet7> I haven't even powered it on fully <itnet7> from 2 years ago, 3 in february ;-P <dantalizing> really? they installed ubuntu on them and you didnt use it? <dantalizing> ;) <raubvogel> itnet7: I worked at a place where the new laptop would go to the boss, then to his kids, and then to IT <itnet7> raubvogel: that tends to happen here on the other side. I can't really get my hands on any new hardware to "test" due to them insourcing us <itnet7> dantalizing: I wish ;-) <itnet7> I just can't believe they said vi$ta and best os in the same sentence...... <raubvogel> itnet7: Fun <itnet7> I should have know then what I was in store for! <raubvogel> Now they ought to be saying Windows8 <itnet7> There are already buzzwords about Mango Development <itnet7> *pffftt* <raubvogel> Now, they should only have *one* machine with the Microsoft SDK <dantalizing> every time i hear 'mango' i think of the line 'juicy juicy mangos' from bend it like beckham <raubvogel> then let people rdp into it <raubvogel> to the very same screen <raubvogel> and work on different projects <raubvogel> How's that for bad? <itnet7> I wanted to try that chrome rdp client <itnet7> but haven't had a chance... @ dantalizing, I know, right? <itnet7> It makes me think of the SNL skit too with John Lequiziamo (sp?) <itnet7> Well, I guess it's not really rdp, it's more like teamview <maxolasersquad> An HTML5 RDP client would be badass, but you'd need a websockets server somewhere that can access both the RDP server. <maxolasersquad> Is anyone else annoyed about the choppy scrolling in the new Gwibber? <itnet7> That's one app I haven't been using in quite sometime, I will check it tonight <govatent> happy release day everyone <akgraner> mhall119, what's the irc channel for the ubuntu website folks <akgraner> is it ubuntu-website or something else - I can't remember atm <mhall119> akgraner: #ubuntu-website <akgraner> thanks! <govatent> i like all the changes made in unity. i only wish i had a slightly nicer gpu. <mhall119> govatent: Unity 2d works really well without 3d acceleration <govatent> how can i switch to it? <mhall119> govatent: at the login screen, click the gear icon by your name <govatent> cause i do have 3d acceleration. it just is sluggish cause of my laptop's amazingly underpowered card. <govatent> ok brb. going to switch to 2d <govatent> wow. <govatent> i am not going to lie. 2d feels really really smooth/fast on my laptop. <govatent> thanks mhall119 . that was a great tip. <mhall119> np <mhall119> they did a really good job with it, and made it so close to the 3d version <govatent> what extra fancies does the 3d have. <mhall119> I'm not really sure <govatent> not that i plan on going back to 3d on my laptop. it really made a huge difference that one change. i am glad the community thought of the older computers. <mhall119> 3d is build on Compiz <mhall119> 2d is built in QT <mhall119> that's the only difference i know <govatent> this new release made me love ubuntu again. every release i fall in love again and remember why i use ubuntu. <govatent> btw funny story, the other day while at school i get a call from my mom saying the internet went out. i could not remote into my system at all so i was not able to look into it till i got home later that night. when i did get home, i found out comcast for some reason decided their backend would lose my modems mac reg in their system. they have no trace of my modem ever being in the system. <mhall119> nice <govatent> i should call and get a day worth of credit <govatent> cause my mom could not use our vonage service cause of their mistake. not that i am angry about it or anything. #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-14 <ShawnR> can someone please tell the servers to cut off everyone but IPs from FL so I can update in less than 8 hrs? <mhall119> ShawnR: did you point to a local mirror before you started updating? <mhall119> many of the big universities mirror the repos <ShawnR> mhall119: nope, just did the package updater and let it go... didn't evne think about pointing it to a local repo <ShawnR> where would i set such? <ShawnR> that being said, only 22 minutes left now... (after going since about 4 or 5pm, not thinking I'm going to change it for this release) <mhall119> ShawnR: if you open "Software Sources", in the "Download from" dropdown select "Other..." and it'll give you a list of choices, plus a button to auto-select a good one for you <KlutZ> everybody must be worn out in Orlando and asleep... <govatent> not me. <govatent> although i am not central florida <KlutZ> I think they are having there LoCo party this weekend in Orlando, Fl... <govatent> does anyone use aim with empathy? <mhall119> not anymore <mhall119> govatent: I used to, but started getting spammers messaging me, so I've turned off that account <govatent> I can't seem to make my aim account work in empathy right now. <govatent> wanted to see if someone could test it as well. <govatent> i am on my clean 11.10 install now <govatent> its the only account giving me an issue in empathy <govatent> trying to also see if there is any info online but nothing so far <mhall119> govatent: just tried my AIM account, connected fine <govatent> thanks. ill have to figure this out <govatent> i think there are logs for connection attempts i can check <maxolasersquad> govatent: I use AIM with empathy on 11.10 <mhall119> govatent: are you sure you have an AIM account? ;) <govatent> lol <govatent> i know my un/pw are right cause i tried using the online chat djennings@example.org <maxolasersquad> If you look in System Monitor there are processes named telepathy-* <maxolasersquad> telepathy-butterfly is msn. <maxolasersquad> I'm not sure which is AIM. <maxolasersquad> Sometime's I cannot connect to MSN, so I kill telepathy-butterfly and then it reloads and works. <govatent> right now i have both my aim and icq set to disabled cause when i turn either on empathy just starts going on about needing a password and not logging in <govatent> ill try that now <govatent> i think aim and icq use the same process <govatent> i wanna find the logs <govatent> found it. within the file menu for empathy under help there is an option debug that shows all the info <maxolasersquad> govatent: It's probably telepathy-haze <govatent> yea your right on that one <maxolasersquad> "telepathy-haze exposes libpurple's many protocol implementations to the Telepathy framework." <govatent> well this is great. I disabled all my accounts. fire up the debugger for connections. clear the logs to see whats going on with aim. i fire aim up and it works by itself. <itnet7> maxolasersquad: telepathy-haze is for groupwise messenger <itnet7> Oh, does it also handle AIM? <itnet7> I thought it was telepathy-gabble <itnet7> Oh, I guess after reading you can actually also use haze for AIM, with seemingly better results (except if you happen to be named govatent) ;-P <itnet7> brb <maxolasersquad> itnet7: My googleing suggested that gabble is for Jabber. <zoopster> aye...wonder why telepathy-haze process was taking up 100% of a cpu earlier....hmmm....novell is coming back to haunt me? <itnet7> maxolasersquad: yeah, this is the article I was looking at when I was trying to get some traction with a telepathy-haze bug I had reported. http://senko.net/connecting-to-aimicq-with-telepathy-gabble/ <itnet7> unfortunately, my bug is still broken 2 or so years later <itnet7> it's still broken... :-( <itnet7> just re-tried it <maxolasersquad> Ahh yes, I remember that. Forgot the AOL had switched to Jabber. #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-15 <govatent> Hello! <mhall119> hey govatent <mhall119> itnet7: ping #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-16 <chloric> evening/morning everyone #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-18 <zus> hello hello <mhall119> itnet7: ping <itnet7> mhall119: pong <mhall119> itnet7: hey, I still have several of those servers you donated to us, but I have no use for them <itnet7> I'm not really sure that I can do much with them either. Though I would hate to throw them away <itnet7> maybe chloric and govatent can use them for some of the projects they've been working on <mhall119> itnet7: ok, I'll offer them on the team ML, I can bring them to UDS for people who will be there <itnet7> that would be cool <itnet7> Thank you <mhall119> ok, thanks <ghuru> hi all <ghuru> anyone with experience installing vtiger on ubuntu 10.04? <govatent> hi ghuru <ghuru> hey govatent <govatent> sorry i missed you before. <ghuru> what do you mean? <govatent> you sent me a message the other day <ghuru> oh geez <ghuru> yea <ghuru> hows it going bud <govatent> :P i am good. finished school this week. how are you? <ghuru> everything all right. still at school ;) <ghuru> is your brother still doing kung fu on android? <govatent> nope. he still has his skills but he quit that stuff a long time ago. <govatent> are you going up for uds? <ghuru> where is this happening? <govatent> orlando. i ask cause if you would like to go you can tag along in my car <ghuru> orlando <ghuru> oh come on, it is during weekdays <govatent> yup <ghuru> thanks dude, but i will pass. betweeen classes and work i need to be here.. <govatent> yup i know the feeling. <govatent> no school for me. and no work for me. :P not a good thing though. <ghuru> lol <ghuru> should be a good experience though <govatent> ill catch up with you in a bit. need to step away from my computer. before i go, i have never used vtiger, just looked it up, what do you need help with in setting it up? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-10-19 <ghuru> hey <ghuru> sorry <ghuru> wasnt looking at this :( <ghuru> well, when you come back, it was just a couple of things i intend to test with it <govatent> back <ghuru> yo <itnet7> Hey there everyone... I didn't schedule a meeting for this week, does anyone have anything they'd like to chat about for a bit? <govatent> me. about uds <itnet7> ghuru: I have used sugarcrm, it was kind of easy to get up and running <itnet7> not sure about vtiger though <itnet7> govatent: please say you're still going <itnet7> ;_) <govatent> yup. i wanted to know if you got the place? <govatent> i have not looked into hotels or anything cause i was wondering if we were doing the same thing as last time <govatent> only difference ill be here the whole week this time <itnet7> I was going to reserve the room tonight <govatent> cool. just let me know how much later and i got it covered. <govatent> that was my only concern was where i would stay :P <itnet7> I just wanted to try and touch base with maxolasersquad_h about whether or not he wanted me to try and get the room all the way until the following Sunday
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