#lubuntu 2011-01-01 <zebastianortis> http://freedomainradio.com/BOARD/forums/p/28810/221573.aspx#221573 <now3d> Hi there. Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use <video> tag? I looked at http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on Ubuntu. <Timo_> that's an interesting point you're making :) <phillw> hiyas now3d you can propose it on the mailing list, but we are running really tight for the 11.04 deadlines <phillw> now3d: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved <phillw> all contributions are welcome, and we do have some lively discussions on emails - but you will not be spammed to death and have your email inbox filled :D <needhelp> hi@all <needhelp> i installed lubuntu but in the end the pc needs to restart <needhelp> but didnt restart <needhelp> i close the pc myself <needhelp> and after i started the pc nothing works <needhelp> i cant open webbrowser <needhelp> someone can help me <now3d> phillw: ok, i will email. Do you know if i can post without being a member to rodriguezcrystal@example.org ? <now3d> needhelp: what happens when you restart? Can you login ok? <needhelp> i can login <needhelp> i see the destop <needhelp> but i cant use the webbrowser and other programms <needhelp> thats the 2nd time i installed but same problem <now3d> are the other programs on the start menu? <now3d> perhaps your hard drive has errors, which prevent the install completing. <needhelp> mhh wait i need to start my pc <needhelp> ok i started it is there a opinion to repair by cd? <needhelp> my english is not so good im from germany <Yorvyk> needhelp, there isn't a repair option. What's the problem <needhelp> i installed lubuntu but in the end of the instalation it needs to restart but after 15 min the computer didnt restart <Yorvyk> now3d, I think your suggestion about the videos is a good one, if you wan'y I'll put it in the mailing list for you . <needhelp> i closed the computer myself <needhelp> and after i start computer nothing works <needhelp> i can login <needhelp> webbrowser cant start <needhelp> i can start terminal <Yorvyk> needhelp, type 'chromium-browser' in the terminal <needhelp> failed <now3d> needhelp: You could press Alt+F-key, and see if any error messages there <now3d> needhelp: Also please boot and check your drives for bad sectors: http://m.jguk.org/2007/11/check-your-filesystems.html <needhelp> after i did <needhelp> what need i do <needhelp> can i repair the system by cd or a code <needhelp> cant <Yorvyk> needhelp, did the browser start <needhelp> no ddidnt <Yorvyk> did you get any error message in the terminal <needhelp> y i did wait i trie to copy by usb stick <needhelp> cant anybody help me <needhelp> can i install firefoy <needhelp> firefox if yes how <now3d> needhelp: Did you complete fsck check on your drive? <now3d> needhelp: Did you press Alt+F-key and see any output indicating the error? <bioterror> X was broken on Natty <now3d> needhelp: I will wait for your replies on these two questions before providing further help <bioterror> upgrades fixed it <needhelp> nothing happens if i press alt+ f <now3d> Which F-Keys did you press? <needhelp> F <needhelp> ah sry i need to pres f1 or f2 or f3 <now3d> F is a "function key" see top of keyboard <needhelp> orÃ <needhelp> OR? <needhelp> what <now3d> press Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc <needhelp> i need to login? <now3d> no, just look at the error output. You can see the error from install. do not reboot manuaully <needhelp> im newbie in linux <needhelp> how i see the error output <needhelp> i need to write something? <now3d> are there any errors indicated on the different screens? <now3d> Ctrl+Alt+F8 normally should show after the install <needhelp> how i come out command display i pushed crt+alt+f1 now if i push crt+alt+f8 nothing happens <Yorvyk> ctrl+alt+f7 <needhelp> ok i pushed ctr alt f8 ther is only a _ <needhelp> what do i need to do <needhelp> only a _ is blinking <needhelp> what do i need to do <now3d> needhelp: Did you look after the install completed? Or did you reboot? <bioterror> hi sz <szczur> hi bioterror <lubuntufan> Hello, can someone tell me how many partitions to create and the size, including swap. thanks <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, you can get away with as little as 3 GiB for / <bioterror> one partition and swap <bioterror> depends what you're doing <bioterror> and how much ram <bioterror> if you're going to hibernate, then about as much SAWP as you have you RAM <bioterror> but like 2GB is okay for the swap and rest / <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq is as good as any expalnation of swap <lubuntufan> Thanks, Yorvyk. I have been having difficulties with teh installation. Primary HD is Win7 and I am installing to a SD Card (duped as a HD) and from a USB. It installs fine but deletes all teh partitions on the SD. <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, that depends on what you tell the installer to do <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, I always specify which partition to install to. <lubuntufan> If I try to install on a Fat32 partition on the SD, I get an error that no root file system defined. Hence chose the automated install "install along with other OSs" option. <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, it won't install on FAT32 <Yorvyk> and I wouldn't recommend a swap a partition on an SD card either <Yorvyk> unless you only intend to try it for a short while <lubuntufan> Ok. that's where teh problem is..not installing on Fat32. So what do you receommend? <bioterror> ext4 ofkooz <lubuntufan> How about NTFS? <bioterror> hahahaha <bioterror> "I Like my filesystem like my girls, fat and 16" :D <Yorvyk> ext2 on an SD card or create a partition on the HD <Yorvyk> If you have over 1.5 GiB of RAM you don't really need swap <bioterror> Yorvyk, any scientific proofs about not using journaling fs on sd <lubuntufan> Thanks. so do I need to create 2 partitions or will the installer also create the swap partition? <lubuntufan> ok. that answered my question...I have 4GB RAM <Yorvyk> So use manual install and select the SD card if you want to install there and tell it to format Ext2 and mount it at / <Yorvyk> bioterror, SD cards don't have very good wear levelling built in and are not designed to be constantly written and erased. <bioterror> Yorvyk, I think that's related to older cards <bioterror> flash drive technology has advanced <lubuntufan> Thank you so much Yorvyk. I will give it a try. But a bit leery on teh manual install. My SD is a SDHC Ultra II - 16GB. <bioterror> have you heard that they are using SSD drives! <lubuntufan> I am trying to us Lubuntu as a lightweight qucik boot for surfing/youtube etc. <bioterror> Yorvyk, if you think about DSLR cameras <Yorvyk> Yes but SSD drives have wear levelling algorithms built in so the same space doesn't get written to again and again. <Yorvyk> Good luck lubuntufan, any more problems call back :) <bioterror> ext4 can be used without journaling <bioterror> :D <lubuntufan> Thank you guys. The other reaon I am using teh SD is as I am running out of space in teh primary HD. <Yorvyk> I just recommend Ext2 because it saves altering parameters <Yorvyk> lubuntufan, you need to have a tidy up :) <lubuntufan> Let me try the installation again :) <Yorvyk> bioterror, Newer SD cards could last for years before failing but I don't like encouraging excessive wear if it can be avoided <bioterror> well yeah <bioterror> those are okay for reading stuff <bioterror> but constant usage is not good as browser cache on stuff <bioterror> and stuff <Yorvyk> In a camera you are not constantly reading and writing <bioterror> you're writing <phillw> I always advise a microsoft approved speed usb device, they are faster ans designed with fault tollarence built in. They cost 2 - 3 times of a standard usb stick, but mine has never let me down. I recall one guy saying he was going to blow up the manufactures of the 'cheap' ones as he'd had several fail on him. :P <bioterror> if you use RAW files, you write 10-40MB files <Yorvyk> USB stickes are different to SD cards. SD cards rely on the controller and on cheap card readers fitted to most PCs these are not brilliant <phillw> Yorvyk: there are also SD cards and 'SD' cards... same applies - you get what you pay for :) <Yorvyk> The two most reliable USB flash drives I've had were Â£5 for 2 from Netto <Yorvyk> But if the controller is nothing great it may still end up writing to the same place over and over again <phillw> my 2GB one runs a full lubuntu with remembering every thing, it's actually hard to determine which is faster, as lubuntu is so lean. <phillw> my next laptop will be usb3 :D <Yorvyk> Can you get USB3 things to plug in? <phillw> I'm not sure if usb3 is fully supported in the kernel. <Yorvyk> May not be as there isn't much to test it on. <bioterror> 64GB USB3 stick is cheap ;) <Yorvyk> How cheap <phillw> Yorvyk: I've not seen it officially announced yet ... http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/255991/linux-first-to-support-usb-3 <Yorvyk> I saw a MOBO about 18 months ago with USB3 on it but there was nothing to plug into it. <bioterror> hmmm <bioterror> actually <bioterror> 60GB usb 3.0 key is 245â¬ <phillw> now, that's odd, why would Xorg be using up 30% of my processor time? <phillw> I've just seen my CPU usage spike to nearly 100%. <Yorvyk> what else was running <tenach> What is a good, slim ftp application? <bioterror> lftp <tenach> bioterror: thanks :D <phillw> http://pastebin.com/d6fXhZ9W <bioterror> I've never seen a really good working graphical ftp client on linux <bioterror> tbqh <tenach> bioterror: I really enjoy filezilla, but on my work machine i usually just use nautilus. <tenach> However, I'm spinning my own liveusb of lubuntu so I can have a slim, portable workstation. <bioterror> lftp handle sftp and stuff <tenach> That's all i need. :D <bioterror> you just need to remember that mirror -Rc sends stuff, and mirror -c receives <Yorvyk> phillw, it was bored and wanted some thing to do <phillw> Yorvyk: yeah, but it's a reet PITA to have to reboot, as I have to restart dragoneyes...... :( <bioterror> just kill X? :D <Yorvyk> I can get Xorg to spike like that moving windows around on a slow machine <Yorvyk> but it doesn't remain at that level <Yorvyk> phillw, I've solved the problem http://pastebin.com/J4gnEfCR :P <phillw> Yorvyk: and now I'm totally confused.... http://pastebin.com/96idu249 <Yorvyk> phillw, I've seen a few things about high Xorg usage, what video driver are you using <phillw> ahh... I think I found the cause, I had two instances of Chromium running. <phillw> as to why it would that to Xorg, pass..... <Yorvyk> phillw, that looks like a bug to me <phillw> yeah but in which package? Xorg or Chromium? <Yorvyk> Yeah :) <phillw> I'll see if does it again and report it to both teams - they can then argue it out :P <Yorvyk> all you can do really #lubuntu 2011-01-02 <renatov> hey guys! <renatov> good night <renatov> hey guys, I need a little help here, pls <renatov> how can I replace openbox for fluxbox as my window manager within lxde? <phillw> !bug1 <phillw> bug 1 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 <kosaidpo_> hello guys <kosaidpo_> as a root while bootin i wanna find the file from where i can turn off/on pcmanfm <kosaidpo_> hello Yorvyk <kosaidpo_> please can u help <kosaidpo_> a time ago i used nitrogen to get transparence by killin pcmanfm and now i dont wanna use it anymoe but idk whixh file i can find that i've been searchin but no result :P <szczur> kosaidpo_, /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart <kosaidpo_> szczur: thanks i must memorize it <kosaidpo_> thnks have good time * kosaidpo_ goin to have lunch <szczur> ^^ <head_victim> Quick question, what window type works for people with conky in Lubuntu. <head_victim> Whenever I click the desktop mine disappears <leszek> hi <head_victim> Gday <head_victim> For the record, own_window_type normal seems to work best with Lubuntu on the conky options <Guest7336> hi <Guest7336> i have a problem <bioterror> !ask | Guest7336 <ubot5> Guest7336: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) <Guest7336> My CD drive will not appear in pcmanfm, and then I looked into the fstab file and there I see no listing for my cd drive <bioterror> oh <bioterror> you have cd inserted into the drive? <Guest7336> yes <bioterror> hmmm <Guest7336> I think it is due to the fstab file <bioterror> nope <bioterror> my wife's laptop has it neither <Yorvyk> Guest what version of pcmanfm are you using <Guest7336> 0.9.7 <Yorvyk> Oh <Guest7336> I will show the entry for fstab? <Guest7336> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. <Guest7336> # <Guest7336> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier <Guest7336> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name <Guest7336> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). <Guest7336> # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation <Guest7336> UUID=b6ff282e-dc4c-4cd8-881a-3cd59dad285f / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 <Guest7336> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation <Guest7336> UUID=022d22a4-d5b3-4b35-8e1c-7183e9055777 none swap sw 0 0 <Guest7336> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 <Guest7336> so it looks to me <Yorvyk> Guest that's OK <Guest7336> really?? <bioterror> problems with automount or something <Yorvyk> Guest7336, Next time you want to show a multi line file can you use ubuntu.pastebin.com :) <bioterror> !pastebin | Guest7336 <ubot5> Guest7336: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. <bioterror> Guest7336, have you checked what dmesg says? * Yorvyk keeps forgetting about the bot <bioterror> Guest7336, is your lubuntu installation from the lubuntu.iso or have you installed lubuntu from another distro? <Guest7336> this iso is from the Lubuntu page and I use Lubuntu 10.10 <stlsaint> bioterror: hey can lubuntu server handle lxc? <Guest7336> how to mount the cd manually? <bioterror> stlsaint, what? <bioterror> ahaa <bioterror> always on rush they are <stlsaint> bioterror: i was told there is a lubuntu server release <Yorvyk> Hmmm. <stlsaint> Yorvyk: ohai <bioterror> stlsaint, server is a server <bioterror> it's almost same as minimal.iso <bioterror> but you can install lubuntu-desktop to server if you want <stlsaint> i dont lubuntu-desktop :P <stlsaint> want <Yorvyk> stlsaint, Zentyal? <bioterror> yeah, zentyal comes with LXDE <stlsaint> Yorvyk: is that the "new" ebox <stlsaint> no not looking for that <bioterror> yes <Yorvyk> Rather nice system <stlsaint> like there is a ubuntu server, is there a lubuntu server? <phillw> stlsaint: ubuntu server has no GUI, so there will not be a lubuntu version, just as there would not be an xubuntu / kubuntu version :) <Yorvyk> ubuntu server=lubuntu sever=xubuntu server= ubuntu - desktop <stlsaint> lol, aye that makes sense <phillw> stlsaint: there is a lubuntu-core version, that gives you a really cut down GUI if that is what you want. <stlsaint> ok well lubuntu can handle lxc yes, since its based on ubuntu? <phillw> stlsaint: if it works on ubuntu, it will most likely work on lubuntu, some of us have done some crazy things to our lubuntu installs and it has never complained :) * Yorvyk now knows what lxc is :) <stlsaint> Yorvyk: :D <stlsaint> Yorvyk: now you see why ive been asking about serve stuff :D <stlsaint> Yorvyk: i currently use openvz but its not working out with new server, so im going to lxc <Yorvyk> stlsaint, interesting <stlsaint> very <Yorvyk> Might have a play with that as I have an old sever that doesn't have HVT. <stlsaint> Yorvyk: yes, it works really well once its all setup <stlsaint> excellent onresources <stlsaint> Yorvyk: AND can be run on 32bit <Yorvyk> stlsaint, it'll have to as it has twp <stlsaint> aye <Yorvyk> two PIII xeons <Yorvyk> damn enter key :/ <stlsaint> Yorvyk: i was hosting website, music server, and multiple other vps all on less then 2GB ram <stlsaint> that was with openvz, lxc has even tighter resource management <stlsaint> and new server has 32GB ram i can play with <stlsaint> but i will have to learn lxc better as i am a novice to it <Yorvyk> It looks straight forward https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC <Yorvyk> phone again :( <stlsaint> i think one is outdated as well, new lxc release is a bit easier but still same configurations required <camilo> hello all <camilo> I have a little problem installing lubuntu <Yorvyk> camilo, go on <camilo> well <camilo> I downloaded the alternate install <camilo> and everything went well <camilo> except when it was installing the system <camilo> it stop <camilo> just freeze in the middle <camilo> but <camilo> sometimes freezes downloading perl <camilo> or preparing other packages <camilo> and try xubuntu as well <camilo> and the same problem <bioterror> camilo, have you tried the normal minimal cd? <camilo> with the gui installer? <Yorvyk> Is the hardware OK? <camilo> The gui installer freezes up before shows something <camilo> now I'm using debian <camilo> in the computer <camilo> but have many problems <camilo> I have managed to install debian <camilo> but flash and mp3 freeze my computer <camilo> so i would like to install lubuntu <Yorvyk> camilo, looks like hardware problems to me <camilo> mmm <camilo> maybe <camilo> it's and old pc <camilo> 256 ram nvidia fx 5500 athlon xp <Yorvyk> Has it been cleaned out recently are the fans OK <camilo> seems right <camilo> because it only crashes installing lubuntu or xubuntu , even archlinux <camilo> but with debian no problems installing it <stlsaint> Yorvyk: from the BT overlord himself: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-linux-containers/ <bioterror> have you run memtest86+? <bioterror> camilo <camilo> nop <bioterror> i think you should <Yorvyk> I thanks stlsaint I'll have a read <Yorvyk> camilo, I have had a lot of old hardware pass through my hands and the one thing I always do is it to bits clean the fans and reseat all th connectors and RAM <Yorvyk> It's amazing how many poorly machines recover after that. <camilo> well I will check that out <camilo> but why debian can install? <Yorvyk> That happens and I wish I knew why. I have a machine that Ubuntu and it's derivatives won't install on but suse and mandriva do :( <bioterror> different generic kernels <bioterror> and stuff like that <Yorvyk> Hmmmm <Yorvyk> In the case of this machine it seems to be a problem with the Intel graphics <Yorvyk> camilo, what hard ware is it? <camilo> lspci <Yorvyk> camilo, sirry you have said nVidia fx 55000 <camilo> GeForce FX 5200] <Yorvyk> The other thing it could be is a dodgy HD. <Yorvyk> You sat debian is running OK <camilo> yep <camilo> but when I play audio files or flash media <camilo> it crashes <camilo> except in cli <camilo> I can play mp3 with mplayer in console <camilo> but in GUI freezes up <Yorvyk> DO you gave the correct driver for the video card <camilo> I don't think so <camilo> I was looking how to install it <Yorvyk> Don't really know with debian as I don't think they use the proprietary drivers <camilo> how can you do it with lubuntu? <Yorvyk> You could try installing disk utility, if it isn't already installed and run the disk tests in there. <Yorvyk> Lubuntu has a tool called additional drivers that looks for the correct driver for you <camilo> a cheese <camilo> why I can not install lubuntu <camilo> ratz <Yorvyk> I would run the memtest <bioterror> that's a good starting point <Yorvyk> and Disk Utility tests and make sure the hardware is OK <camilo> ok <Yorvyk> camilo, with problems like yours they are very hard to diagnose on IRC as they could be any number of things so we have to remove each possibility <camilo> I understand <Yorvyk> I have spent a few days trying to get an old machine to work and I have quite a few sppare parts that I can swap out. <Yorvyk> What I would do is unplug it have a look inside and make sure there is no dust blocking things <Yorvyk> If that's OK I would push all the connectors home or even unplug them and plug them back in. <Yorvyk> That includes the RAM sticks. <camilo> like a medical exam <Yorvyk> Yep <camilo> ok I will do that <camilo> I hope it works <Yorvyk> I've been repairing computers for 30 years and dust and loose connectors were the main culprits <camilo> thanks <Yorvyk> camilo, good look and don't hesitate to call back we'll help all we can :) <camilo> allright thanks again! <Yorvyk> camilo, if you just want to chat we have #lubuntu-offtopic available for waffling about most anything non-technical <bioterror> Sun22:38 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab camilo (~rodriguezcrystal@example.org) has left #lubuntu ("Saliendo") <bioterror> ;) * Yorvyk must learn to type faster <Yorvyk> bioterror, I hate computers that halt at random, load one distro and not another <bioterror> usually that means hw failure <bioterror> probably overheating <bioterror> but good night <bioterror> I'm off to bed <Yorvyk> nn <head_victim> I think I broke something <head_victim> All websites in chromium end up at the "aw snap" page and xchat keeps crashing. <head_victim> tenach: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation is where the details are located for all Lubuntu related, hang on a tick I'll find you the most direct one for your enquiry <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu <head_victim> tenach: ^ that's it <jef91> What problems head_victim? <tenach> head_victim, Thanks a bunch :D <head_victim> jef91: none but if we are discussing Lubuntu related support it should be in here as the other channel is off topic and not logged. <head_victim> tenach: no worries <jef91> Any ideas on how to go about creating a custom alternative install cd? <tenach> head_victim, I issued apt-get update after adding the ppa and am getting a 404 on packages.tar.gz <tenach> maverick sources and main i386 are not working. <tenach> er hold on <tenach> I know the problem :3 * tenach headesks <head_victim> jef91: there are a few devs lurking around that may give you specific pointers but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall is the location of the details for using the Lubuntu one. <head_victim> jef91: I'd also recommend emailing the mailing list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs) for specific help on that front jus tin case the right person isn't in here just at the moment. <jef91> kk <jef91> will do that :) <head_victim> jef91: I help out with documentation but unfortunately I have no idea when it comes to all the technical stuff required to build ISOs <head_victim> tenach: got it sorted? <jef91> Ahh kk <_kosaidpo> hello guys <_kosaidpo> idk how but i cant log in via my gui but i do with my ttty and via gui even i type a wong psw it says nethin any idea how to fix it <_kosaidpo> i tried to install gnome session but nethin wok #lubuntu 2011-01-03 <phillw> !bug 1 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 <ubot5> For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents <Mark76> !bug 2 <ubot5> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: 2 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/2) <Mark76> :( <head_victim> bug 692121 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 692121 in loco-directory "Team event has been unlinked to loco team on loco.ubuntu.com" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692121 <head_victim> :D Don't need the ! afterall <_kosaidpo> hello guys <_kosaidpo> any one can help icant login via GUI it keeps displayin over n over <bioterror> propabl wrong desktop or something <_kosaidpo> hello guys anynoe hee <_kosaidpo> here <GaryD> how do i get xdg-autostart to work in openbox? <GaryD> i have searched forums, google, blogs, and more trying to find the answer. i just can't find it. <head_victim> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart <head_victim> No idea if that's what you're looking for <Yorvyk> GaryD, http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart any good? <GaryD> no help there. <head_victim> GaryD: have a look at bug 285896 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 285896 in openbox (Ubuntu) "Openbox does not install xdg-autostart" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285896 <head_victim> Might be why <GaryD> i have no problems using the autostart.sh file. what i want to do is use desktop files in the /etc/xdg/autostart and /.config/autostart <GaryD> then how am i supposed to use xdg autostart with openbox if they aren't going to fix it? <GaryD> also it doesn['t come with the python-xdg package. <head_victim> Maybe it just doesn't install it by default <GaryD> so how can i get it? <GaryD> how does lubuntu sue xdg autostart? <GaryD> i am building a custom lubuntu from the mini iso. but if i were to use lubuntu straight forward, i would be able to drop some desktop files in the autostart folder and they work. <GaryD> so how did the lubuntu team get the xdg autostart things working? <head_victim> GaryD: sorry mate this is all a bit above me, I'm just working with google to try and help. If you need specifics that don't seem to be forthcoming I"d suggest dropping the mailing list a line <GaryD> head_victim: thanks. i will keep on keeping on i guess. <head_victim> GaryD: I'm certain there'd be someone on the mailing list to help out or if you want to hang around here I'm sure someone will come along. I don't know how Yorvyk is but I'm a bit out of my depth <Yorvyk> Same here <GaryD> head_victim: thanks. i am not so sure about the mailing list. i have never used one before. but i am sure i will find the answer sometime or another. <GaryD> the script is in the source package. <GaryD> does anyone know how to make a deb from the source package? <head_victim> GaryD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003&highlight=checkinstall might help <head_victim> Again over my head but looks like it's what you want. <GaryD> thanks. <mmaksimov> Hi. Is lubuntu-control-center available via PPA? <Yorvyk> mmaksimov, yep, https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa <mmaksimov> Yorvyk, thanks. Is this ppa added by default to 10.10 installation? if yes, I'm too dumb for today and should get some sleep ;) <Yorvyk> mmaksimov, :) <mmaksimov> Yorvyk, is this "yes" or "no"? <Yorvyk> mmaksimov, your choice :) <econdudeawesome> Hi y'all! Do any of y'all get a request to unlock the keyring when you bootup? If so, do you know how to see which programs are requesting? <Yorvyk> econdudeawesome, is the password you log in with different to the keyring password <mmaksimov> Yorvyk, well, the message from add-apt-repository suggests that it was already there.... <Yorvyk> mmaksimov, already installed ? <econdudeawesome> Yorvyk: no, it is the same password <mmaksimov> Yorvyk, I guess so. <econdudeawesome> hmm <Yorvyk> Hmmmm, <Yorvyk> econdudeawesome, that's the only time I've seen the keyring ask for authorisation. <Yorvyk> the first thing that needs it is wireless, if you have it <mmaksimov> Yorvyk, econdudeawesome, on my two lubuntu laptops the system always asks for the password when first connecting to wireless after logon. Logoff then logon causes another request. My password is the same that is used for login. #lubuntu 2011-01-04 <doughty> holla <doughty> <- lubuntu nub <doughty> anyone using an acer aspire one? <UBUxUBU> netsplit... <mysteriousdarren> why does my wireless disconnect after a few hours in lubuntu 10.10? <hblount> hi. what is the simplest/lightest software for sound settings? <Listener> So, I have this problem with some progs starting up. <Listener> For example, Synaptic opens the initial dialog window and pins the cpu <Listener> The dialog window is blank white. <Listener> with a blue border and header, but no text. <Listener> It can be closed, but that is all. <Listener> top reports that gsku is taking 100% cpu <Yorvyk> Hi Listener <Listener> Hi Yorvyk <Yorvyk> hblount, alsamixer <Yorvyk> Listener, is this a fresh install <Listener> no.... <Listener> a fall over from gnome <Yorvyk> does it work OK in Gnome <Listener> sort of, but I just don;t like gnome <Yorvyk> I'm just try to see if Lubuntu caused the problem <Listener> sorry, a bit grumpy as I know that the proper answer is a clean xubuntu install <Yorvyk> Listener, no it should work OK, I've installed Lubuntu after installing Gnome <Yorvyk> What happens if you open a terminal and type gksu synaptic <Listener> same thing <Yorvyk> OK, what about sudo synaptic <Listener> synaptic coemes up with errors <Listener> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ <Listener> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. <Listener> That could be from previous failed attempts to open synaptic <Yorvyk> Yep it could <Yorvyk> I hate to say this but try rebooting and then try sudo synaptic again <Listener> I'll do it right. Burning xubuntu cd now. Thanks. <Listener> In toher words, the BIG reboot. <Yorvyk> OK - it might actually be quicker than finding the fault <Listener> yep, ttfn <Yorvyk> Bye <hblount> Yorvyk, cool thanks! <hblount> hmm...which should i get, GNOME ALSA Mixer or Alsamixergui? #lubuntu 2011-01-05 <Yorvyk> hblount, alsamixer is already installed - open a terminal and type alsamixer <hblount> ooh. sorry i'm noob. which one is line in/mic? <Yorvyk> hblount, if you press the right arrow key it will move along to Mic <hblount> what is "line" and what is "LFE"? <Yorvyk> I don't know what LFE is, must some something with your hardware <hblount> ok thanks <Yorvyk> Line is normally used to connect an amp or similar <hblount> bye. merry new year <johnny77> I just installed LXDE over Ubuntu. While figuring out the panel, I accidentally deleted the "Application Launch Bar" on the far right that has the logout button. I'm trying to replace it, but can't get it to work. <JackyAlcine> Hello? <JackyAlcine> Any developers? <JackyAlcine> I'm curious about being on the team. <bioterror> join the mailinglist <JackyAlcine> Could you point me to that? I don't want to sign up to the wrong one. <bioterror> launchpad.net, theres lubuntu <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop <JackyAlcine> Thank you. <JackyAlcine> Does that include LXDE? <head_victim> Lubuntu uses lxde <JackyAlcine> Alright, thanks again. <head_victim> No worries <mmaksimov> Hi. How can I change the default key combination that changes keyboard layout in lubuntu? <mmaksimov> How can I change the default key combination that switches keyboard layout in lubuntu? <unhackmee> hey has anyone experienced problems with creating an encrypted home folder? <bioterror> some has been reported <bioterror> but I'm not a huge fan of them anymore <Yorvyk> It appears to a rather hit-n-miss affair with any flavour of Ubuntu <unhackmee> in that case, i suppose I should keep trying. <bioterror> well <bioterror> I had encrypted home <bioterror> then my hdd blew and I made image of it and then I had to deal with the encryption <bioterror> and guess what, I rm -rf'd the image :D <bioterror> as I couldnt get my hands on it <bioterror> and dont say anything about backups, as I was at the moment copying stuff over network as it happened :D <Yorvyk> I've seen more than a few people asking how to recover their data from similar problems <unhackmee> haha, well- ubuntu didnt work too bad for me for the last couple yrs.. <bioterror> I tried lots of guides, no bonus <unhackmee> anyhow isnt that why the passphrase is for? 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99abonfus33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab <bioterror> it's more than just a passphrase <unhackmee> how so? <bioterror> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ <bioterror> I couldnt chroot as my user <bioterror> :D <unhackmee> wow... <unhackmee> i'm speechless :P <unhackmee> i would suppose the passphrase would suffice in most circumstances.. :D <bioterror> hope I didnt scare him <bioterror> but having non encrypted backups sounds just stupid about encrypted stuff? <Yorvyk> Having been through a similar experience I believe people should know what they are letting themselves in for <Tatsujin> Hello, Lubuntu installs and i'm able to reboot after having installed it, but after having run the Updates it always appears to destroy my install so when i reboot all i get is a grub commandline and it doesnt boot lubuntu. <Tatsujin> anyone know what the problem might be? <bioterror> no errors nothing? <bioterror> just grub? <Tatsujin> yes <bioterror> hard to say <bioterror> no errors <Tatsujin> let me check what it exactly says , brb <Tatsujin> "Minimal BASH-Like line editing is supported" <Tatsujin> and just the commandline , basically <bioterror> what kind of computer you have? <Tatsujin> hp 510 laptop <Tatsujin> im using a ide2sata adapter for the hdd , it might be the reason it fucks up <bioterror> could be <bioterror> if it doesnt find the drive <Tatsujin> guess ill try to install it on my smaller hdd that doesnt need the adapter , thanks for the input <Tatsujin> bbl <desolator> hi uhm... I don't know if I was the only one with this problem but I'll just report it in here <desolator> lxpanel settings are created under root? seems to fail loading on a fresh install <desolator> gives empty menus <desolator> I had to chmod to show it properly <bioterror> I've not noticed anything like that <bioterror> 11.04 or what <desolator> yeah 11.04 <phillw> I've not seen any chatter on the emailing list or here about that? <desolator> I did a google search but it seems like I'm a rare case or people solve it and didn't reported like me <phillw> desolator: if it occurred, the testers would have screamed it :) <phillw> have you ensured the cd is okay? <desolator> yeah <desolator> did a complete check before installing <phillw> desolator: I'll log it to my brain, but I have not seen any other report from the others who are testing. <phillw> desolator: by all means report it as a bug. <phillw> desolator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs <Tatsujin> Ah finally got lubuntu to work from another hdd , now the next problem!:) <Tatsujin> i can login fine but the whole desktop is still encrypted/empty <Tatsujin> and i click on the icon in my main dir that should unlock it but it doesnt do anything * bioterror lifts hands up with the encryption <Tatsujin> how does this encryption system work? am i supposed to do some keycombo?:) <bioterror> with linux mint it decrypted <Tatsujin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601413 exactly the same problem <stlsaint> bioterror: yo yo yo <bioterror> hi stlsaint #lubuntu 2011-01-06 <sta-hi> pro tip anyone trying to run tweetdeck on lubuntu run this 1st: export GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=1 <sta-hi> otherwise it cant handle the keyrings <ChrisDruif> Hai loves :) <ChrisDruif> I heard something aboot irssi, what's that? <ChrisDruif> Anyone? <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: aye i use irssi <ChrisDruif> What does it do stlsaint? <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: it is just a irc client <ChrisDruif> Alright...something like xchat? <ChrisDruif> But better? <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: more like weechat, it is a text based irc client <stlsaint> i run it from terminal <ChrisDruif> Alright...awesome :) <stlsaint> very <stlsaint> saves loads on my resources <stlsaint> only client i use <ChrisDruif> Indeed, if it runs in terminal...you don't need a separate GUI... <jef91> Anyone around that knows LXTerminal? <AndrewT> Is anyone available to answer a simple question? <AndrewT> nobody seeing this? <AndrewT> How do I subscribe to the lubuntu mailing list? * AndrewT is upset that not one single person is saying anything... <AndrewT> HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo <linuxman410> what are minamum requirements for this os <AndrewT> Nobody is here to answer <linuxman410> i found it that is ok <AndrewT> One think I wanted to ask <AndrewT> Do you know how to subscribe to the Lubuntu mailing list? <linuxman410> hang on a second will get it for you <linuxman410> http://lubuntu.net/news this link on right side <AndrewT> thank you! <AndrewT> I only wanted to join the mailing list temporarily <AndrewT> You see, what I wanted to do was ask someone with coding experience to write a really simple gtk front-end for scrot <AndrewT> It's about the most simple thing you can code...assuming you can code (which I can't) <AndrewT> scrot is the command-line screenshot taking app included in Lubuntu <phillw> AndrewT if you read the topic, you will find the link to the wiki area, in there it is not too hard to find areas? If it is, please do tell me as I'm one of the poor souls who keep it all up to date <phillw> Fn+PrtSC will take a screen shot and put it into your home directory with the time/date stamp on it. <phillw> or on many keyboards, just PrtSc will do it (I have a laptop, so some of my keys have dual functions) <AndrewT> phillw: This works in Lubuntu? <phillw> AndrewT: yup.. if you have a standard keyboard, just press the PrtSc button, on a laptop it is usually Fn+PrtSc <AndrewT> Did this also work in Lubuntu 10.04? <phillw> AndrewT: yes, you will probably have loads of scrot files in your home directory :) They do not go to the desktop, I guess that is a papercut that the devs can look into when they catch breath. <AndrewT> Does this automatically work when scrot is installed? <AndrewT> The main reason I am asking is because I want to duplicate this functionality in another distro, Trisquel Mini <phillw> AndrewT: scrot comes as a part of lubuntu. <AndrewT> phillw: I knew that <phillw> it is a default application <phillw> AndrewT: if you install scrot in your version, it should work the same way. <AndrewT> So it's automatically keyed to the Prnt Scrn (or Fn+PrntScrn) key? <phillw> but I'm not a dev, just a lowly, harrassed documentor :P <AndrewT> :) <AndrewT> Ok, I'm going to test this out <phillw> yes, it should pick up the key press. <pbanj> quick stupid question can i install lubuntu with the wubi? <amit> hello friend <amit> i need to install firefox from terminal any one gave me setup command <amit> hi <bioterror> sudo apt-get install <amit> ok <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool <amit> thanks <amit> bioterror <amit> and website from there linux command practice <amit> hello bioterror <bioterror> hi <MichealH> Hi Mark76 :D <amit> hello <MichealH> Hi amit <amit> hello micheal <amit> i need help <bioterror> !ask | amit <ubot5> amit: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) <amit> u elvid i am out <MichealH> amit: What seems to be the problem? <MichealH> amit: You want firefox installed? <amit> i am just asking i am new in linux platfrom i want work from terminal only i dont work fron graphic u have any help for this or linux command practice <amit> i istall firfox thanks <amit> install firfox <amit> it work fine <MichealH> amit: If you want to browse the web in the command link I suggest w3m <MichealH> :D <amit> i am not understand micheal what u say <MichealH> If you want a firefox alternative w3m can do what firefox does roughly <amit> i install firfox its work fine? <MichealH> You said you wnted to work purely from terminal? <amit> i am asking about working on linux termial and want practice on linux command <amit> ya <amit> ya <amit> right <MichealH> So I think a nice book or video online might work? <MichealH> Ot really differs from your setup <MichealH> *It <amit> any link of website or any book name <amit> micheal <MichealH> I dont know any books or links <amit> plz? <MichealH> I can look <amit> ok micheal hwo u doing were u from and what u do <amit> i think u angry on me but thanks for help <MichealH> If I cant find a link I could run a class in -classroom <MichealH> amit: I am not angry :D <amit> miclass hwo <amit> we so far <MichealH> amit: If you want to get to know us more (without getting in trouble please goto #lubuntu-offtopic :D <bioterror> amit, begin from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/basic-commands/C/ <MichealH> phillw: I need to go... care to take over? <MichealH> bioterror: ^^ <bioterror> I think you should have read documents in the first hand about command line if you're after using only terminal <MichealH> Thnaks <amit> yes <bioterror> amit, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html <amit> bioterro u are guud friend <amit> hope its all linux basic command <amit> bioterror u there <amit> ok byee now <bioterror> now i am <Krasus> hey can someone tell me how to change cpufreq from ondemand to powersave in lubuntu 10.10 ? <Krasus> hey can someone tell me how to change cpufreq from ondemand to powersave in lubuntu 10.10 ? <bioterror> its technically same thing <Krasus> ? <bioterror> as you dont use all the time 100 percent <bioterror> ondemand is more optimized <Krasus> ok <bioterror> yorvuk, what do you think <Krasus> I am goint to install lubuntu 10.10 on my netbook it is stable ? <bioterror> my panel eats most power <bioterror> gotta use lowest brightness <bioterror> and yes, 10.10 is stable <bioterror> works great <Krasus> so if u would choose what will u pick for netbook <Krasus> lubuntu or xfce <Krasus> ? <bioterror> my wife havent complained at all <bioterror> default lubuntu <Krasus> but it is possible in lubuntu to switch from ondemand to powersave ? <bioterror> http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10229138&postcount=2 <Krasus> yea but i was thinking about something like in gnome that u click and change it in tray <bioterror> lxde do not have such a application <Krasus> ;/ ok so if I want to have ondemand by defult what I need to do ? <bioterror> I suggest to keep ondemand <Krasus> but it is on defult ? <Krasus> when I install it will be like that ? <bioterror> it's ondemand by default <Krasus> ok <bioterror> trying to find some documents about it <bioterror> I just installed cpufrequtils <bioterror> and when I do cpufreq-info <bioterror> current CPU frequency is 800 MHz. <bioterror> cpufreq stats: 1.20 GHz:3.32%, 800 MHz:96.68% (43959) <bioterror> as you can see, most of the time, I'm running on 800MHz with this ondemand <Krasus> thx <Krasus> I hope my battery live will be good <bioterror> I really cant find the point in using powersave as the ondemand is running also on 800MHz <bioterror> and when the CPU is n eeded, it will use it quickly <bioterror> and then return to 800MHz <Krasus> I was just worried about that <Krasus> becouse when I am out with my netbook I need max battery live <bioterror> Krasus, if you've read at all people saying something about lubuntu, they are praising the longer battery life <Krasus> that s why I want to use it ;) <Krasus> I was having only a little problem <Krasus> when I log in the gnome-keyring ask me about defult keyring password <Krasus> and I want to get rid of it <bioterror> ahhh <bioterror> that's easy <bioterror> that's becouse of wlan <Krasus> yea <bioterror> you have to add a check mark on the mmmm <Krasus> I just want to log in and go on :) <Krasus> mmm ? <bioterror> Available to all users <bioterror> check that box <bioterror> and it will disappear <bioterror> from the wlan settings <Krasus> nah <Krasus> I will give a try * Yorvyk takes note of that <Krasus> I just wait for lubuntu to install <Krasus> I use a Polish remix :) <Mark76> Shiny <Krasus> btw bioterror thx for everything :) <bioterror> np <bioterror> we have a polish kiddo here who's eager to help you <bioterror> ;) <Krasus> what is his nick ? <bioterror> sz seems to be offline now <bioterror> szczur <Krasus> I think I will get here more offten <bioterror> well, people usually come back to us, as we are so helpful ;) <bioterror> and hanging in here is a good way to learn more about things <Krasus> it is more friendly here then in #ubuntu <Krasus> yea <Mark76> Less traffic <Krasus> I am using linux for about 2 years <bioterror> Krasus, #ubuntu-beginners is also a good place to ask help <Krasus> so I am a noobie ;p <Yorvyk> Krasus, there's also #lubuntu-offtopic for some general chat <Krasus> thx Yorvyk :) <Krasus> ok the netbook is going to reset <Krasus> we will se what s going on :) <bioterror> hope all goes fine, no problems with grub ;) <Krasus> booting in <bioterror> actually, with cpufrequtils you can set those modes <bioterror> from performance to powersafe to ondemand <bioterror> or force a certain MHz/GHz <Krasus> what is the cmd ? :o <bioterror> sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils <Krasus> ok <Krasus> bioterror should I type the password <Krasus> for the defult keyring ? <Krasus> or leave it blank ? <bioterror> sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave <bioterror> sudo requires password <bioterror> !sudo | Krasus <ubot5> Krasus: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo <Krasus> bioterror I know what sudo is :) <Krasus> I was asking about that thing when I typed the password for my wifi <Krasus> it asking about setting a defult keyring <bioterror> ahhh yeah <bioterror> it asks for a password <bioterror> put your password <bioterror> which you use for login <bioterror> keeps things uncomplicated <Krasus> no it want me to set a password for a defelut keyring <Krasus> I will just type sudo pass <Krasus> ;p <bioterror> ?! <Krasus> It is ok :) <Krasus> now need to configure the system <bioterror> so Krasus, is your netbook now working?-) <Krasus> it is working but need to dowload the updates <Krasus> so I need to wait :p <Krasus> and I need to change the appearance <Krasus> don t like to be so bright ;D <Krasus> hey bioterror how to change in lubuntu the login screen ? <bioterror> what's wrong the default one? <Krasus> i got the PL remix so the log in screen is from that remix ;p <Krasus> and it is all blue and white thing <Krasus> I would say that just to "cute" ;p <bioterror> http://blog.lxde.org/?p=595 <Krasus> thx man <bioterror> I've been really satisfied with the default lubuntu theme <bioterror> gotta google that your remix <bioterror> hi sz <bioterror> sz, are you familiar with lubuntu polish remix? <szczur> errr, nope <szczur> is there any polish remix? <szczur> i know k/ubuntu <bioterror> szczur, Krasus said he's running one <szczur> hmmm :) <szczur> didn't know that :) <Krasus> hmm <Krasus> I have something strange <Krasus> when I click on a dropbox icon in tray it opens in tab of chrome not normal <Yorvyk> It does there is a script, somewhere, to deal with this problem <Krasus> anyone have a nice dark theme for lubuntu? <Yorvyk> Krasus, Peppermint Linux has a black and red one you may be able use <Krasus> and do u know page where I can find soeme interesting lubuntu themes ? ;p <Yorvyk> I think you would have to look for openbox themes <Yorvyk> Krasus, http://pastebin.com/XjjKxhAP the script for installing Dropbox in Lubuntu <Krasus> so if I installed it from dropbox page i need to get it out <Krasus> and install it using the script ? <phillw> Krasus: you may also want to have a read of http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10298889 <Yorvyk> Krasus, yes you would have remove Dropbox for the script to work <Krasus> hmm <Krasus> i was going to ask how to make this script work but it worked <Yorvyk> Good, one less problem <Krasus> ok but it is same thing <Krasus> when I click on the dropbox icon it open in chrome tab <Krasus> and when I press in chrome to open just dowloaded thing in foler <Krasus> it opens it in tab <Yorvyk> Oh poo! <Krasus> something like that ;p <Yorvyk> Krasus, what version of Lubuntu are youb using <Krasus> 10.10 <Yorvyk> Ahh, I think that may have been the wrong script let me have another search <Krasus> I don t thing it is something wrong with the script <Krasus> becouse when I want to open something frome chrome <Krasus> like something dowloaded <Krasus> and I want to open it by pressing open in foler <Krasus> it opens the chromium tab <Krasus> not the folder <Yorvyk> have you updated the install? <Krasus> yea <Krasus> sudo apt-get update <Krasus> and upgrade <Krasus> I don t know what s wrong <Yorvyk> That's something to do with xdg-open and I thought it had been updated <Krasus> it is not a big isssue <Krasus> but it could be annoying <Krasus> ;< <Yorvyk> It's these 'little' things that get on peoples nerves though <Krasus> yea I know what are you talking about <Yorvyk> There is a solution because it works on my machine <Krasus> I just don t need to press dropbox ;p <Yorvyk> Krasus, I'll have a look round and when I find the solution I'll let you know as this is supposed to be solved. <Krasus> ok thx for your help :) <Yorvyk> np, I want Lubuntu to work <Krasus> same here <Krasus> \o_ <Krasus> I m thinking about interesting conky theme for my new lubuntu ;o <bioterror> krasus, those are configs ;) <Krasus> yea but I am to lazy :< <bioterror> crunchbang's forum is full of conky configs <bioterror> if you're interested in those, and ofcourse ubuntuforums has like 200 pages of discussion about conky <Krasus> ok <Krasus> now configuring mocp <Krasus> ;p <bioterror> awesome <bioterror> MOC > * <bioterror> did you figure out that darker theme for lubuntu? <Krasus> there was defult nice dark theme <Krasus> so I just used it ;p <bioterror>
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