#ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-01 <jpds> txwikinger / txwikinger3: ubuntu-ca.org DNS updated. * mhall119 throws a brick at cjohnston <mhall119> stop blowing up my inbox <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> onle ~300 bugs left to go through <cjohnston> just wait till we have a little mini bug jam session and close a hundred bugs in one day <cjohnston> hehe <cjohnston> it was only about 25 emails <mhall119> you're about to get your very own inbox filter rule <cjohnston> yay! <jpds> mhall119: Anything but the /dev/null. <cjohnston> I strive to be special <Ddorda> âg'morning :) <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <dholbach> mhall119, how's the bits and pieces for the django foundations coming together? <mhall119> dholbach: not much going on right now, first bit of free time I've had went to the big 2 LD bugs <dholbach> mhall119, sure sure - take it easy - I'm not here to hassle you :) <mhall119> I know <mhall119> I'm wishing there was a forest/subrepo plugin or something for bzr <mhall119> that would make things much easier to manage <mhall119> dholbach: if you can get in touch with jamesh about my outstanding django-openid-auth merge proposals, I'd appreciate it <mhall119> I've tried sending emails, bumping the propsal, even IRC <dholbach> mhall119, will do <dholbach> I just talked to him and he said he'd been extremely busy - I'll see if there's any other point of contact <mhall119> ok, thanks <mhall119> I applied to join the team, but even if approved I wouldn't want to approve and land my own code <dholbach> yeah - I don't like doing that myself <mhall119> dholbach: can you go here http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/16/detail/ <mhall119> and tell me if you get a pix.ie login prompt <dholbach> I do <mhall119> :( <dholbach> the link to the pixie thing is broken too: http://pix.ie/notfound#ubuntu%20#release%20#party%20#2010%20#10.04 <dholbach> http://pix.ie/explore/tag/#ubuntu%20#release%20#party%20#2010%20#10.04 <dholbach> oh man <mhall119> maybe that's why <dholbach> why did we move back to loads of tags? <mhall119> no other global event is giving the pixie login <mhall119> dholbach: we didn't <dholbach> it breaks all links <mhall119> it's an old global event <dholbach> ah ok <dholbach> he, thanks :) <dholbach> I got worried already :) <mhall119> it's the Lucid release party event <dholbach> gotcha :) <mhall119> for some reason the Bangladesh team is having one this month :( <YoBoY> FrenchTeam report : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/TeamReports/10/November <Ddorda> âYoBoY: wow, the stuff look AWESOME! <Ddorda> ânice job <YoBoY> thanks, but I had help ;) <Ddorda> âYoBoY: are the sources available somewhere? <Ddorda> âso maybe we can use these materials too, we don't have many graphic editors <YoBoY> the sources of what ? <YoBoY> everything ? ^^" <YoBoY> Ddorda: ^ <Ddorda> âi guess <Ddorda> âwe'll use what we find relevant :P <YoBoY> Ddorda: i need to check the licences before, but sure, I can already give you what is "mine", my licence is simple, CC-SA, one minute <YoBoY> Ddorda: http://yoboy.fr/images/ufr_badge_cof_blanc_aubergine.svg http://yoboy.fr/images/ufr_badge_cof_blanc_orange.svg <Ddorda> âthanks! <czajkowski> !lococouncil > czajkowski <ubot4`> czajkowski, please see my private message #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-02 <Ddorda> âgood morning <YoBoY> good morning <YoBoY> hey Ddorda :) how are you ? <Ddorda> âYoBoY: all good, sorry i disappeared last night, had to go... <YoBoY> no problem, i was going to to disappear to sleep also ;) <Ddorda> âYoBoY: you helped a lot, i'll check out if it is possible to us to use paypal too. i hope we do. <Ddorda> âYoBoY: oh, so i guess i had good timing <Ddorda> â;) <YoBoY> yes :) <cjohnston> blah <czajkowski> meh <cjohnston> oh hush <dholbach> good morning! <cjohnston> mornin dholbach <dholbach> heya cjohnston <cjohnston> how goes? <dholbach> good good - how are you? <cjohnston> ehh.. its 0300.. I can't sleep :-/ and im at work <czajkowski> evil snow <leoquant> Swiftly the blizzard stretched a frozen arm <leoquant> From out the hollow night- <leoquant> Stripping the world of all her scarlet pomp, <leoquant> And muffling her in white. <cjohnston> dholbach: I'm about to drop kick loco-directory <dholbach> go outside, walk around the block, start breathing again, take it easy, relax <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> I'm in over my head but its too late to get out <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> I think the migration i created isnt working right <cjohnston> dholbach, if you get some time, could you take a look at what I have and see if maybe you can figure it out? <dholbach> sure, push the branch and I'll check it out <cjohnston> dholbach: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/+junk/meeting-feature I have it in my junk for now.. <cjohnston> the error im getting is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538932/ <cjohnston> its highly possible that im doing it all wrong which is why im doing it in junk for now <dholbach> cjohnston, go back to where you were first (remove meetings/migrations/) and do: <dholbach> ./manage.py schemamigration --initial meetings meetings_initial <czajkowski> noo <czajkowski> boo <dholbach> ? <dholbach> you have a database in a broken state right now <dholbach> oh no <dholbach> hang on <dholbach> we're stuck with django 0.6 <dholbach> just a sec <cjohnston> i think thats what i did <cjohnston> this is the exact line I ran: ./manage.py startmigration meetings add_meetings --initial <dholbach> hang on, I was using south 0.7 <cjohnston> im using 6.2 <dholbach> 6.2? <cjohnston> yes <dholbach> 6.2 what? <cjohnston> south <cjohnston> 0.6.2 <dholbach> that version does not exist :) <dholbach> ah ok <cjohnston> stupid 0.. lol <YoBoY> what appens with the users ? Oo', 233 openiduser now, and i can't find two of my team contacts. <cjohnston> we are waiting on django_open_auth to be fixed <YoBoY> ok, i'll wait ^^" <cjohnston> nothin we can do.. the merge has been requested.. waiting on review and merg <cjohnston> e <dholbach> cjohnston, " ./manage.py startmigration meetings add_meetings --initial" with the old south does not work for me <dholbach> it gives me "django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: App with label meetings could not be found" <cjohnston> I didn't get an error when I ran the command.. hmm <cjohnston> any idea what to do to fix? <dholbach> I've run into this before, let me see what I can do <cjohnston> ok <czajkowski> cjohnston: go to bed <dholbach> cjohnston, sorry, I'm of no help - no idea what's going on here <dholbach> cjohnston, you might have to wait for mhall119, or maybe Daviey knows something <Daviey> cjohnston: fixed in 0.7 <Daviey> cjohnston: http://south.aeracode.org/ticket/338 <dholbach> Daviey, we don't have that on cranberry <Daviey> dholbach: worthy of an SRU? :) <dholbach> Daviey, I would have to ask a server team member about that <cjohnston> I didn't get that error when I did my startmigration, which is odd.. * Daviey looks left, looks right * cjohnston spies a server team member * cjohnston points at Daviey <cjohnston> :-P <Daviey> gah, why aren't all people using deb src 3 yet :/ <Daviey> cjohnston: hmm <Daviey> are you sure it didn't work? :) <Daviey> cjohnston: need a full traceback i think <cjohnston> Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538946/ <cjohnston> thats what I get when I run it <Daviey> erm <Daviey> what about django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured <Daviey> ? <Daviey> cjohnston: ^^ <cjohnston> where is that? <Daviey> <dholbach> +it gives me "django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: App with label meetings could not be found" <cjohnston> I dont see that <cjohnston> dholbach: does <dholbach> can you try to be a bit more clear? :) <dholbach> ah, yes - I see that problem in a lucid chroot <cjohnston> me be more clear? * cjohnston is confused.. <dholbach> when you said "dholbach: does", I thought you'd say "does" to me <dholbach> which didn't make sense <cjohnston> 3~sorry... <cjohnston> uggh <cjohnston> sorry <dholbach> no worries :) <cjohnston> I've been up for 24 hours now.. :-/ <cjohnston> Daviey: so since I'm not having that error, but a different error, any idea on what I can do to fix the problem I'm having? <czajkowski> cjohnston: besides sleep <cjohnston> that too.. i gotta wait till I get off work tho <Daviey> cjohnston: i'll have to investigate, but yours looked liked it worked :/ <Daviey> just a warning <dholbach> but his doesn't work as the resulting database doesn't have the tables <Daviey> Oh <Daviey> i see <cjohnston> yes <Daviey> cjohnston: can you push your broken branch somewhere? <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/+junk/meeting-feature <dholbach> Daviey, ^ <Daviey> great... i'll poke later :) <Daviey> thanks dholbach <dholbach> de nada <cjohnston> thanks Daviey dholbach * cjohnston is off.. bbl <mhall119> cjohnston: startmigration worked for me on your branch <mhall119> using old south <mhall119> 0.6.x <cjohnston> mhall119: same here.. but I get a DB error.. did you get the db error? <mhall119> haven't run it yet <cjohnston> when you get a chance, that'd be great <mhall119> yup, I get an error <cjohnston> same one as mine? no teams_teammeeting_teams or something like that <mhall119> no, different <cjohnston> meeting_teammeeting_teams <mhall119> pysqlite2.dbapi2.OperationalError: table "meetings_basemeeting" already exists <mhall119> which is wierd, it should be using sqlite <cjohnston> I guess I'm messing something up good.. lol <mhall119> nope, my fault <mhall119> I had old tables in my database <mhall119> after deleting them, the migration went fine <cjohnston> what about when you go /teams/$team/meetings <mhall119> dangit, chromium keeps segfalting on me <mhall119> there I get a template error <mhall119> Caught OperationalError while rendering: no such table: meetings_teammeeting_teams <cjohnston> ya <cjohnston> thats the issue im having <cjohnston> that i need help with <mhall119> looks like south isn't creating your manytomany tables <cjohnston> That's what I Was thinking, cause it is doing it for the events_teamevent_teams <cjohnston> but im beyond what I know how to do :-/ <mhall119> okay, I dropped the tables, deleted the entries in south-migrationhistory, and re-ran the startmigration --initial command, and it made the correct tables <cjohnston> ok.. ill try that in a bit <mhall119> ok <cjohnston> mhall119: how do I delete the entries in south-migrationhistory <cjohnston> mhall119: even on a brand new branch pull and new setup, new db it still didnt work. #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-03 <mhall119> cjohnston: you'll have to run manual SQL to delete the rows for meetings from the south_migrationhistory table <head_victim> Anyone able to assist with team reports in here at the moment? <head_victim> Sorry for cross posting, I have had assistance with the team reports. Thanks. <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <czajkowski> aloha <cjohnston> mhall119: ping me when you get up please <mhall119> cjohnston: consider yourself pinged <Ddorda> ânhandler: here? <czajkowski> !lococouncil > czajkowski <ubot4`> czajkowski, please see my private message <cjohnston> Ddorda: he is prolly at school <nigelb> mhall119: Hi <nigelb> mhall119: Do you know why we use the secret key in django? <mhall119> nigelb: I think it's used in generating the session cookie <nigelb> mhall119: ah thanks :) #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-04 <YoBoY> Good morning <YoBoY> Risque I'm going to a Fedora install fest and lot of ubuntu members are going too to help. :) <YoBoY> Arf phone corrections... today not risque Oo <daker> mhall119, ping <mhall119> daker: pong <daker> good morning mhall119 <daker> mhall119, bug #685157 <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 685157 in loco-directory "Error while runing the migration command (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685157 <mhall119> about that, did you run syncdb before migrate? <daker> mhall119, yes <mhall119> hmmm <mhall119> is this a clean branch of lp:loco-directory? <daker> mhall119, a fresh bzr branch + syncdb+ migrate <daker> then i got the error <mhall119> using sqlite? <daker> yes <mhall119> new db? <daker> yes <mhall119> alright, I'll try it on my end in a bit, gotta take the kids out for some donuts and coffee <mhall119> donuts for them, coffee for me <mhall119> ;) <daker> mhall119, ok have fun <daker> mhall119, ping <cjohnston> do be do be do <cjohnston> mhall119: rather than "hacking" a fix to my migration issue, is there some way to "fix it right"? #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-05 <mhall119> cjohnston: the one where I re-generated the file? <cjohnston> ya <cjohnston> in 22 seconds you left. :-/ <mhall119> :( <mhall119> did you re-generate the migration script? <himanshu> hi <cjohnston> mhall119: I don't know how to remove the south stuff and all... It shouldn't be that hard though should it? (i.e. shouldn't have to do all that extra work to make it work) <mhall119> cjohnston: to remove the south stuff, you just have to delete the rows in the south_migrationhistory tables <mhall119> for me it was just 'DELETE FROM south_migrationhistory WHERE id >= 26' or something like that, from the sqlite commandline client <mhall119> or do "./manage.py migrate $app $previousrev" <mhall119> to have south back itself out <cjohnston> ic <mhall119> nigelb: you alright? <nigelb> mhall119: Hurts like hell, but otherwise okay <nigelb> mhall119: A drunk dude crashed into me while I was turning. Pretty sure he didn't see til the last moment. <nigelb> Thankfully, my mum and dad didn't see it happen but came in a few minutes later. <mhall119> wow <mhall119> were you in a car or on a bike? <nigelb> A bike <nigelb> Got a few scratches on right hand and leg and a contusion in my right lower back <mhall119> ouch <mhall119> well take care man, hope you get better soon <nigelb> I'm dreading tomorrow. I'm pretty sure all the pain will hit tomorrow. <mhall119> probably, yeah <nigelb> Also, had to tell mom that I already had 2 falls. Wasn't a good sight today :p <cjohnston> mhall119: to do the ./man migrate prev rev.. how do I know the rev #? <cjohnston> mhall119: can you just push your working one and ill work off that? <mhall119> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/meeting-feature <albertodjs> hi!!!!!!!!!!1 <albertodjs> hay alguna manera de descargar ubuntu netbook edition por torrent <albertodjs> it;s some body there <albertodjs> hi somebady could help me <ALAYA> hi <ALAYA> I'm Zied ALAYA from Ubuntu-tn <ALAYA> the local team in tuinisia <ALAYA> is there some person from the loco council here ? <daker> ALAYA, <daker> !loco-council <ubot4`> Factoid 'loco-council' not found <daker> !lococouncil <ubot4`> lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at djennings@example.org <ALAYA> daker: yes <ALAYA> ah, thank you :) <daker> ALAYA, yw <MaWaLe> ALAYA: popey is here, all you have to do is to ask him your question ;) <ALAYA> MaWaLe: I'm writing an email about it :) <MaWaLe> ALAYA: i think that a discussion in "life" is more pertinent. As you want bro' <ALAYA> MaWaLe: we have a classroom right now in #ubuntu-tn-classroom <ALAYA> so I prefer an mail ;) <MaWaLe> ALAYA: i'm monitoring this class session :D Good job my friend <YoBoY> yop <cjohnston> mhall119: for meetings, have a text box to specify a channel, or add something to the team admin page to allow meetings to only be planned in specified channels in a manytomany? #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-06 <cjohnston> mhall119: now I'm getting an UnboundLocalError. :-/ <czajkowski> aloha <cjohnston> hey czajkowski <cjohnston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/540132/ <mhall119> cjohnston: text field for channel <mhall119> default it to #ubuntu-meeting <mhall119> or the team's channel if set <cjohnston> ok <cjohnston> I'm gonna make a merge soon I think <cjohnston> or request a merge <cjohnston> mhall119: I want to include south in the bzr branch cause im tired of forgetting to add it :-( <cjohnston> mhall119: somethings wrong, cause my new migration didnt work either <udienz> anybody from AsiaOceania in here? <udienz> *AsiaOceania Board <udienz> i want to ask about next scedule meeting <udienz> referring from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania <udienz> netx scedulle is unknown <nhandler> udienz: There is a scheduled meeting for Dec 7 on the Fridge calendar <udienz> nhandler: hi Nathan <udienz> ok i'll check now <dholbach> good morning! <vorian> hiya dholbach <YoBoY> good morning <YoBoY> http://www.ilard.tv/ << a vidÃ©o on our last ubuntu party in Paris :D <daker> dholbach, any thought on this bug 685157 <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 685157 in loco-directory "Error while runing the migration command (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685157 <udienz> hi all, i'm from Ubuntu Indonesia <udienz> i have problem <udienz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-webhosting/+bug/557350 <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 557350 in loco-webhosting "DNS and Contact Person change for ubuntu-id.org (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New] <udienz> someone can help me? <mhall119> udienz: have you sent an email to the loco-council? <udienz> mhall119: hm.. not yet, but my friend fajran send emails to djennings@example.org <cjohnston> mhall119: looks from rt like its just waiting to be gotten to <mhall119> ok, rt can take a while sometimes <mhall119> you can ask about the status in #canonical-sysadmin <udienz> mhall119: Thanks <udienz> another question, we have many problem at ubuntu-id <udienz> old admin, and current leader left Ubuntu-ID <udienz> :( <mhall119> that's something to talk to the loco-council about <mhall119> loco-council [at] lists.ubuntu.com (I think) <popey> !loco-council <ubot4`> Factoid 'loco-council' not found <udienz> mhall119: talk to #ubuntu-loco-council? <popey> bah <popey> !lococouncil <ubot4`> lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at djennings@example.org <popey> ^^^ there you go <mhall119> udienz: this is the channel for them <udienz> owh, okay <popey> udienz: drop us an email <udienz> popey: sending, and pending approval now <daker> mhall119, dholbach cjohnston bug 685157 <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 685157 in loco-directory "Error while runing the migration command (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685157 <dholbach> daker, I have no idea why that's happening I'm afraid <dholbach> Daviey, ^ any idea? <daker> dholbach, it's south <cjohnston> I haven't been able to reproduce <daker> cjohnston, south 0.6-1 + django 1.2.3 <dholbach> daker, if you move the db file somewhere else and start from scratch does it work then? <daker> cjohnston, south 0.7-1 + django 1.2.3 LD works perfectly <dholbach> http://paste.ubuntu.com/539717/ looks like the output of 0.7-1 <daker> dholbach, i guess not it's 0.6-1 <dholbach> ah ok, yes <dholbach> sorry <daker> i have checked about 10times <dholbach> if you start from scratch (move db away run syncdb and migrate) does it work then? <daker> no <dholbach> and this is current trunk? <dholbach> with no changes? <daker> yes <mhall119> using sqlite? <daker> yes <mhall119> have you tried with django 1.1.x? <dholbach> and if you run migrate you don't get a crash notice or anything? <dholbach> can you paste the output of ./manage.py migrate --list and paste the output somewhere? <daker> dholbach, i am at work now (i am runing maverick), once t at home i'll do it <dholbach> super, thanks <dholbach> I added the other info to the bug report <daker> mhall119, dholbach well i guess if you want to run django 1.2.x you must install south 0.7-x <dholbach> and using django1.1.x and south0.6 is VERY VERY reasonable <dholbach> as it's what we use for loco.u.c <dholbach> so we should make sure it works <daker> i think south0.7 has being patched to work with django 1.2.x <daker> that's why i am getting those errors <mhall119> daker: in the mean time you can remove south from INSTALLED_APPS, then run syncdb again, then put south back and run migrate with --fake <daker> mhall119, can you it as a comment https://launchpad.net/bugs/685157 <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 685157 in loco-directory "Error while runing the migration command (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] <daker> so i'll test theme once at home <dholbach> hum, in my lucid chroot, migrate does not work at all <daker> woot <dholbach> it gives empty output and seems to do nothing <mhall119> daker: done <daker> mhall119, thanks <dholbach> daker, is this also in a chroot? <czajkowski> !lococouncil > jcastro <dholbach> daker, you installed python-tz? <daker> dholbach, yes installed <dholbach> mhall119, ^ we need an error message if it can't be imported (just noticed I hadn't) which made migrate not work - it silently errored out before <daker> dholbach, it's not in a chroot <mhall119> dholbach: okay, I'll add it to the settings like the others then? * dholbach hugs mhall119 <dholbach> great <dholbach> I'm still playing around with trunk in a lucid chroot - I'll report what I'll find <mhall119> dholbach: should we add all our external apt-managed libs to this check? <dholbach> a crude but simple check would be for pkg in [ 'python-django', ... ]: if not os.path.exists('/var/lib/dpkg/info/%s.list' % pkg): print 'Please install package %s.' % pkg <dholbach> daker, it seems to work for me in a lucid chroot <dholbach> daker, that I didn't have python-tz installed seems to have been my problem <mhall119> dholbach: I can attempt imports, that way it'll pick them up anywhere in PYTHONPATH <dholbach> mhall119, that won't get us gettext, iso-codes and stuff <dholbach> but I'm happy with whatever tells me that I didn't have tz :) <mhall119> true <dholbach> we just need to make sure the test isn't run every single time :) <dholbach> (cf. the languages list bug) <mhall119> dholbach: got a bug # for this fix? <dholbach> which fix? <daker> dholbach, have you read my comment on the merge proposal ? <mhall119> checking for python-tz <dholbach> daker, yes, which is why I asked if mhall119 had a good idea <dholbach> mhall119, no, no bug - I just noticed it now <mhall119> ok, I'll make one <daker> mhall119, https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/loco-directory/ld-languages-menu/+merge/42760 <cjohnston> mhall119, dholbach, daker could I get testing on: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/meeting-feature please <dholbach> thanks mhall119 <daker> sure <daker> cjohnston, ^^ <mhall119> cjohnston: as soon as I can, yes <mhall119> daker: commented on your merge proposal <mhall119> dholbach: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/686057/+merge/42850 <mhall119> dholbach: have you ever experienced bug 667458 after that one incident? <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 667458 in loco-directory "lpupdate crashes because of database constraints (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667458 <dholbach> mhall119, no <mhall119> it must have been a fluke then, lpupdate at the same time someone was merging teams <mhall119> or something <dholbach> yeah, no idea <mhall119> can I close it as incomplete? <dholbach> invalid <dholbach> yes <mhall119> cool * mhall119 doesn't like the sight of "critical" bugs on our list <dholbach> merged <dholbach> thanks <mhall119> dholbach: what do you want to do about django-openid-auth, include our own copy locally? <dholbach> mhall119, did jamesh get back to you? <mhall119> nope <dholbach> ok, let me see <mhall119> if there's nobody else using it, maybe we can just take over ownership? <cjohnston> mhall119: you just wanna own everything dont you? :-P <cjohnston> kidding * mhall119 buys cjohnston <cjohnston> you cant afford me <mhall119> pleia2 gave me a discount <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> I'm pretty sure she owned you previously <pleia2> lol <cjohnston> true <jpds> mhall119: pwned* <cjohnston> uh oh.. locodir-user!!! run!! <daker> \o/ <cjohnston> do be do be do <mhall119> finally some activity on the django-openid-auth bugs, but looks like I need to put more work into them <cjohnston> thats good <cjohnston> I guess ill have to go look <mhall119> nothing to see yet, just comments <cjohnston> ya.. thats what I should look ato <cjohnston> at <cjohnston> or is it not on the bugs <cjohnston> but atleast its a start <mhall119> it's on the merge proposal comment threads <cjohnston> ok <cjohnston> so we need to limit to only LP for openid ;-) <mhall119> we already do by virtue of only forwarding them to LP for authentication <mhall119> the problem is that we create django users from team admins before they log in via openid <cjohnston> so they are the openidxx? <mhall119> no, those are the ones without a launchpad nick <mhall119> the cjohnston1, cjohnston2, etc, are the ones affected by this <cjohnston> how do they not have an lp nick? <cjohnston> thats what i thought.. i guess one of his comments confused me <mhall119> ubuntu SSO is now disconnected from launchpad <mhall119> it wasn't when django-openid-auth was first made <cjohnston> gotcha <cjohnston> is there a fix for that? <mhall119> yeah, my strict_username branch will cancel the auth if it can't find a username <mhall119> but I need some better tests before that's accepted <mhall119> the other bug would let us change the username from openiduser# to their LP nick as soon as they have an LP profile <cjohnston> ic <mhall119> that one has only a minor fix needed to it, I think * cjohnston needs to learn this stuff more bettererer <mhall119> in the case of username conflicts, which we shouldn't have, but are possible in other uses of django-openid-auth <cjohnston> mhall119: would it be better for me to do a merge request on that code, or leave as it <mhall119> who what now? <cjohnston> my meetings feature... <mhall119> I still don't understand what you're asking <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/meeting-feature should i <cjohnston> leave it, or propose merging <mhall119> is it ready? <mhall119> I haven't had a chance to test it yet <cjohnston> I think its ready as a very basic addition, and then can be added upon.. <cjohnston> I'd like to have it tested though before continuing to work on it <mhall119> then propose it for merging into trunk, and we'll go from there <cjohnston> ok #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-07 <mhall119> okay, so we need agenda still, defaults for channel, timezone (especially timezone) <cjohnston> We cant do TZ.. needs to be utc <cjohnston> how many teams stretch across multiple tz <mhall119> stored in UTC <cjohnston> unless it is based on the users tz <mhall119> but let them set it using local time for convenience <mhall119> yeah, I'm thinking default to user's tz, and start pulling that down from launchpad <cjohnston> IIRC that is being pulled from LP <mhall119> is it? I can't remember if that was enabled or not <cjohnston> it might not be enabled.. but i think the code is there with the user profiles stuff <cjohnston> default channels, when i asked earlier you said a text box <cjohnston> or are you saying default to the teams channel with ability to change <mhall119> yeah, the code is there I think <mhall119> yeah, a textbox, but default it's value to the team's channel <cjohnston> ok.. <cjohnston> would we rather allow in the team admin to specify a default meeting channel? <mhall119> and i'm thinking if they don't specify a log url, we generate it based on channel and datetime to point to irclogs.u.c <cjohnston> that would work <mhall119> nah, just use the team's channel for now, we may need to do something different once we go global, but for locoteams I think they'll use their own channel more often than #ubuntu-meeting <cjohnston> ok <mhall119> I think Meetings should be a top-level nav item too <mhall119> and something on the main page <cjohnston> I thought we had issues when we added anything more to the top level <mhall119> we made some changes to the css, I think we can squeeze "Meetings" in <cjohnston> k <cjohnston> im going to file most of these as feature requests <mhall119> also, we need JSON services for meetings (and userprofiles too, I think) <mhall119> I'm tempted to combine the "About Locos" and "Loco Council" pages into one <cjohnston> s/LoCo Council/LoCo Teams or something like that.. make it a little more open? <mhall119> yeah <cjohnston> sounds good to me <cjohnston> teams events meetings loco council irc login - sound good mhall119 ? <cjohnston> top lev <mhall119> yup <cjohnston> is everthing working? <mhall119> seems to be, migration ran smoothly <cjohnston> awesome <cjohnston> thats the part i was really worried about <cjohnston> mhall119: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/ld-meeting-feature <mhall119> we already had a blueprint didn't we? <cjohnston> the one from uds? <cjohnston> this one I made really for myself as a tracking <cjohnston> this one had nothing on it and wasnt tied to the project: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-locodir-meeting-tracker <mhall119> cjohnston: what do you think? http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3716/screenshotglobalnav.png <cjohnston> I'd rather it be different colors <cjohnston> make the links aburgine or something <mhall119> :P <cjohnston> newz said she is workin on it <cjohnston> no, seriously <cjohnston> I do think it should be different <mhall119> well, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll make it's way into our code <cjohnston> I think the point is that it does <mhall119> ok <cjohnston> I mean, it is our bug <cjohnston> I would say Loco Directory <mhall119> yeah, there just seems to be a disconnect, sometimes, between stuff done for for internally-driven sites,and stuff done for community-driven sites <cjohnston> I know its against what all the others are, but LoCo doesnt seem to explain it <cjohnston> right <cjohnston> thats why I passed it up <mhall119> s/loco/loco directory/ you mean? <jono> where do we assign bugs for the loco council to? <mhall119> usually we just bug czajkowski until she does something about it <mhall119> or hits us, whichever comes first <cjohnston> mhall119: yes <mhall119> jono: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil maybe? <mhall119> cjohnston: I was going with *.ubuntu.com <mhall119> which is why I used "loco" <cjohnston> I know.. <cjohnston> I dunno <mhall119> except for "ubuntu" of course <mhall119> yeah, I wasn't sure about it either, but it makes for a decent mockup <cjohnston> yu[ <cjohnston> yup <cjohnston> post the screenshot to the bug <mhall119> already did <cjohnston> sweet <cjohnston> I really want it to be aubergine tho <cjohnston> lol <jono> sorted ,thanks :) <cjohnston> :-) <mhall119> no problem <mhall119> cjohnston: they're all community sites though (except ubuntu), so they'd be orange <cjohnston> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ <cjohnston> mhall119: look at the color palette <cjohnston> and color landscapes <cjohnston> go all the way to the last page of the pds <cjohnston> pdf <cjohnston> "community-focused materials, orange is the predominant color and aubergine is used as a highlight" <mhall119> yeah,I dont like them in abergine <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> they're too small to really tell that they're purple <cjohnston> ic <mhall119> we'll see what the designers come up with <cjohnston> yup <cjohnston> im off to bed <cjohnston> g'nite <mhall119> night <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <Ekushey> hi guys <Ekushey> looks like the asia oceania board is in a bad shape? <nigelb> Its just a time zone problem <nigelb> With DST on, they're in rather bad shape due to most of them being easterly <udienz> Ekushey, nigelb, elky: i think its better when Asia/Oceania separated by 2 timezone <Ekushey> nigelb is the board still looking for members? <Ekushey> I should have applied <nigelb> Ekushey: I'm not sure if the board is looking for members still, but the idea was to have 2 meetings one a bit earlier and one a bit later <Ekushey> who are on the current board? <Ekushey> I think the new board was formed last month? <udienz> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board-asia-oceania/+members <nigelb> There wasn't anything announced after the call for nomiation <Ekushey> udienz this looks like the old board <nigelb> There isn't a new boad <nigelb> *board <nigelb> There was never a plan for one <nigelb> The plan was to add more members to be the board who're more westerly and split the meetings <Ekushey> nobody applied/nominated themselves? <nigelb> Well, I'm pretty sure theere were applications <nigelb> We haven't had any announcements yet because the short meeting today was the first after close of nominations <udienz> sorry i can't help anymore with board, because i not ubuntu-member again <udienz> i hope i can help for next meeting <udienz> Ekushey: do you still maintain ubuntu mirror? <Ekushey> no not any more <Ekushey> but there is another mirror here in BD now... <udienz> Ekushey: wll, same like me, my university unhappy with huge traffic. so ubuntu repository has ended :( <Ekushey> yeah that's the problem... demand is too high <daker> mhall119, ping <mhall119> daker: pong <daker> mhall119, one sec <daker> mhall119, https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/loco-directory/ld-languages-menu/+merge/42760 <daker> see your comment <daker> mhall119, you said put the function get_languages() in utils.py <daker> mhall119, so in utils.py i need to import Language model <daker> mhall119, and utils.py is imported in settings.py <daker> mhall119, http://dpaste.com/283875/ <mhall119> you can import Language inside the function itself, that way it's not imported until the function is called <daker> mhall119, i'll try <mhall119> or make a separate /common/languages.py for all this <mhall119> or put it in /teams/models along with the Language model itself <gandaro> Hello there! :) <mhall119> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/meeting-feature/+merge/43014 #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-08 <cjohnston> howdy <mhall119> hiya <cjohnston> mhall119: everyone being boring tomorrow! <mhall119> ? <cjohnston> I want to go diving, but everyone says trhey have to go do this work thing <mhall119> heh <mhall119> you can do code reviews instead <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> How did you do the adgenda? is it in the edit meeting details? <mhall119> not yet <mhall119> :( <cjohnston> I thought you added that? <mhall119> that's on the to-do list <mhall119> I added the agenda models <mhall119> and something to display them <cjohnston> o <mhall119> but not to enter/edit <cjohnston> I was thinking a link in sub-nav Add Agenda Item? <mhall119> that's going to require some nice UI work I didn't have time for <cjohnston> gotcha <mhall119> you can add them in the admin for now to test <cjohnston> I'm not gonna try it tonight <cjohnston> dont have the connection for it here <mhall119> ok <cjohnston> Is it going to display under the meeting name? <mhall119> I also added chair field to basemeeting <cjohnston> cool <mhall119> want a screenshot? <cjohnston> sure <cjohnston> takin all my code away from me :-P <mhall119> http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9407/locodiragenda.png <cjohnston> So my copying everything from events wasnt too bad I take it? <mhall119> nope <cjohnston> roman numerals ;-) <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> it's using <ol> <mhall119> so you get what you get <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> Gotta figure something other than 1, 1, 1, 2 <cjohnston> :-/ <mhall119> we can go wity <ul> <cjohnston> I love the exactness of the time <mhall119> too much? <cjohnston> I like having an ordered list.. is there not a way to do 1. A. a. 2. ? <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> I think we could do without the .xxxx <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> I'm not real happy with how I'm generating that, I'll probably replace it something else <cjohnston> which part? <mhall119> the list, it's string concatination in the model code <cjohnston> ic <mhall119> but I didn't find a quick and easy way to do recursion in the template language <cjohnston> ok.. im packing it up.. do a little work before bed time. o/ <mhall119> yeah, I've got school work to finish <mhall119> g'night <duanedesign> som nice diving inland in Florida? <duanedesign> some* <duanedesign> cjohnston: ^ <duanedesign> cjohnston: There are a couple of lakes close to me that are fairly good. But even the best is only about 2ft of visibility. <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <mhall119> morning <daker> morning mhall119 <mhall119> dholbach: got another webcast today? <dholbach> tomorrow <mhall119> oh right, I can read, really <nigelb> mhall119: lol, pre-coffee? ;) <mhall119> yes :( <nigelb> heh, Good Morning :) <artnay> hello all. how does one create event entries at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ loco pages? <artnay> at the moment it seems one can create event entries only in English. is there / will there be an option to have bilingual event entries and separate feeds/.ics files for those? <artnay> we're renewing our loco site and looking at the different event notification (calendar) systems. * nigelb looks mhall119 and/or dholbach <nigelb> ^^ <dholbach> no, there's no way to have multiple language entries <dholbach> I'd suggest you put the description up there in English and your team's language if you want to provide the language in more than one language <dholbach> and file a wishlist bug at http://launchpad.net/loco-directory/+filebug <mhall119> yeah, right now everything gets lumped together, regardless of language <mhall119> i think I've seen some people entering the title in 2 languages <mhall119> which is possible as long as it's not too long <mhall119> and description too, but you have much more room there <mhall119> you can create event entries in your native language though, it's not restricted to English <mhall119> looks like cjohnston has 3 whole days to devote solely to loco-directory <nigelb> oh, good news :p <mhall119> he's already been kicking butt on the meetings feature <mhall119> I'm having to play catch-up <nigelb> \o/ <nigelb> I wish django didn't overwhelm me everytime I took a poke <mhall119> poke harder <nigelb> heh <mhall119> I'm kind of serious <nigelb> Once I finish that flask project I started, I should have better confidence <mhall119> just jump in and change things until it breaks, then figure out why it broke, and then you won't be overwhelmed <nigelb> heh <nigelb> I wonder if summit needs any more fixing <nigelb> Now that there is no pressure on that one <mhall119> oh it does, we had a list of things from UDS to do to summit <nigelb> oh, I can try that one <nigelb> I have summit on my laptop somewhere <mhall119> connect to gobby and find the doc we made at UDS <nigelb> conecting <artnay> ok, thank you for answering. I'm still wondering how to create an event entry, any links for FAQs or so? <artnay> http://loco.ubuntu.com/venues/add/ that link was given in LoCo Directory Answers but it doesn't work <nigelb> mhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/UbuntuTheProject#Summit Plans ? <nigelb> Let me try to poke harder today after work :) <mhall119> artnay: if you're a member of a LoCo team, you just have to log in, go to your team's page, and there will be an "Add Team Event" link in the gray bar at the top <artnay> ok, found https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/609695 and http://loco.ubuntu.com/openid/login/?next=/events/team/add/ <ubot4> Launchpad bug 609695 in loco-directory "Documentation for adding event should be included (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Medium,In progress] <artnay> mhall119: thanks, I wasn't looking hard enough. <mhall119> no problem <mhall119> there will also be an "Add Team Event" on the main Events page if you're logged in <cjohnston> mhall119: your taking away ALL my stuff <YoBoY> stupid question : how to react to the interview demands ? <olive> YoBoY: answer <YoBoY> not for you olive ^^" <olive> c'est ma rÃ©ponse : on rÃ©pond Ã une demande d'interview par des rÃ©ponses <nigelb> YoBoY: Give an interview :) <mhall119> cjohnston: what am I taking away? <Ddorda> âsay, is there badges http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/stickers/ubuntucertified.png ? <Ddorda> âor what's the point in this image? <czajkowski> been tested and works with ubuntu <czajkowski> to what ever release usually <cjohnston> mhall119: my meeting coding things <mhall119> I barely touched your code <cjohnston> :-P <Ddorda> âczajkowski: what i'm trying to ask is, if there are such badges/stickers or it's just symbolic on the site? <Ddorda> âcause in my loco people seem to wanna have one on their laptop :P <Daviey> mhall119: You have mail. <mhall119> hey, it's Daviey! <mhall119> haven't seen you around in a while <Daviey> :o <Daviey> mhall119: sorry, been really quite busy <Daviey> :/ <mhall119> it's no problem <mhall119> just missed your smiling face <Daviey> heh <toros> hi #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-09 <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <czajkowski> Aloha folks <Tm_T> hiya <Tm_T> I tried searching from wiki.ubuntu.com, but didn't find, is there any user manual for loco directory? <dholbach> Tm_T, no, there isn't - what are you after? <Tm_T> dholbach: basicly how the team information is handled currently, and, if these translate strings would be used anywhere yet: https://translations.launchpad.net/loco-directory/trunk/+pots/loco-directory/fi/+translate?show=untranslated&start=10 <dholbach> what kind of team information handled how? <dholbach> Tm_T, the page you just linked to (translations) seems like there are no translations entered at all? <dholbach> (*) (no translation yet) <Tm_T> dholbach: yes, but if translated, where they would appear if at all <dholbach> hang on <dholbach> they are used if you merge teams <dholbach> (old unused entries in the db you can merge with your actual team) <Tm_T> right, so not priority for us (: <dholbach> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/annotate/head%3A/loco_directory/teams/utils.py#L5 <Tm_T> dholbach: for example: does it get Team admins list directly from lp or is there separate interface to handle that kind of things <dholbach> from lp <dholbach> team admin, owner, but not contact (that's manual) <Tm_T> thanks, thought so too (: <Tm_T> ah, that is done how? <dholbach> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/annotate/head%3A/loco_directory/teams/management/commands/lpupdate.py <Tm_T> thanks a much <dholbach> de nada <cjohnston> dholbach: ping <dholbach> cjohnston, pong <cjohnston> mornin! question... when do strings becoming available for translation? <dholbach> when you push a new .pot file <cjohnston> if I commit code to trunk with changes to the .pot file, are they then available for translations? <dholbach> (update-template) <cjohnston> ok.. so we should update the template each time we change a string instead of only when we are ready to push out a new update to production? <dholbach> if you want to include translations of new strings, you better push the .pot file earlier <dholbach> so the new .po files can be integrated (import-translations) <cjohnston> if I make changes right now and push it to trunk, I should include the update-translations before pushing to trunk <dholbach> if you think it's important enough, sure, do it <cjohnston> it would just provide more time for translators to translate * dholbach nods <cjohnston> ok.. cool.. ty <mhall119> so, can we say that you don't need up update translations when proposing a branch for merging, but the person who does the merge should update the template? <mhall119> having .pot changes in the merge proposals makes them larger than is necessary <mhall119> and sometimes leads to merge conflicts <cjohnston> works for me <cjohnston> mhall119: do you have any idea how to limit the selection to team members only? <cjohnston> selection list i guess <mhall119> you'll have to over-write the .choices in a Form definition <mhall119> see the TeamEventForm in ./events/forms.py <cjohnston> mhall119: see the news out of orlando this morning? <mhall119> cjohnston: about the deputy? <cjohnston> ya <mhall119> yeah, sad news <cjohnston> was my old station that ran it <mhall119> it's so stupid, I just don't understand it <cjohnston> yup <cjohnston> and then to go out cowardly like he did <cjohnston> somehow I cjohnston2'ed myself on my local install <mhall119> 2? <mhall119> surely one is enough <cjohnston> I guess I have to do it right <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> making work for you mhall119 <mhall119> -1 <cjohnston> its just reviews <cjohnston> but i do have a few bugs I want to assign you <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> assign all you want <mhall119> they'll go on the "todo" pile <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> but my free time for the next little bit is going to be devoted to xdg-launcher <cjohnston> theres a couple of the bugs that I think are beyond me <mhall119> nothing is beyond you <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> I'll buy you dinner if you can mark all loco-directory bugs fix commited before 12/12/10 <mhall119> that doesn't seem likely <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> guess I can keep my wallet in my pocket <cjohnston> I already owe you lunch <mhall119> oh, it's almost time for dholbach's livestream <dholbach> yeah, I'm excited :-D <mhall119> what's the channel name? <cjohnston> whats it on? <dholbach> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-development-with-daniel-holbach <cjohnston> I want to learn how to fix a unity bug <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> cjohnston: yeah, me too, can't let jamal have all the fun <cjohnston> I know <cjohnston> see if we can get FL to rock unity? <cjohnston> lol <mhall119> we already are <mhall119> it doesn't matter that jamalta's in California now, he's still Florida LoCo <cjohnston> he's ca now <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> all his work are belong to us? <mhall119> you can take the hacker out of Florida, but you can't take the Florida out of the hacker <cjohnston> I believe thats trailor park <mhall119> I said "Florida", there's no need to be redundant <cjohnston> lol <czajkowski> am I going to have to seperate ye two <cjohnston> got me a stump grinder comin by later <cjohnston> what did we do czajkowski <cjohnston> other than me give him more work <cjohnston> lol <daker> \o/ <cjohnston> daker: !!! <cjohnston> you can do some work too! lol <czajkowski> bah I need a bio <cjohnston> write me one too <mhall119> ustream starting, join! <cjohnston> QUESTION: did he get a hair cut? lol <mhall119> wrong channel <mhall119> /join -ustream #ubuntu-development-with-dani <cjohnston> I know <cjohnston> lol <cjohnston> I'm watching the press conference for last night * mhall119 needs to write a blog post <cjohnston> ? <mhall119> about xdg-launcher <mhall119> my new project <daker> i saw it mhall119 <mhall119> XDG menus are complex <mhall119> daker: :) <mhall119> it's pretty cool so far, even if inflexible at the moment <daker> mhall119, how to use this command /join -ustream #ubuntu-development-with-dani ? i can't join <mhall119> you need to connect to the ustream network <daker> ah <mhall119> then join #ubuntu-development-with-dani <daker> which is ? <mhall119> chat1.ustream.tv port 6667 <mhall119> you'll need to register an djennings@example.org first, I think, to let you identify yourself <daker> ok <cjohnston> mhall119: without a way to fix the child agenda items from all starting at 1, what do you think about removing the ability to have child agenda items <mhall119> we need to have child agenda items <mhall119> we can fix the numbering <cjohnston> ok <mhall119> dholbach: good show <dholbach> mhall119, thanks a lot for the flowers <dholbach> mhall119, it's sometimes a bit hard to estimate if you're going too fast, etc :) <mhall119> flowers? <dholbach> "compliment" :) <mhall119> oh, ok <mhall119> dholbach: I'd really like to get a walk-through on properly packaging python apps <mhall119> is there one already made? If not, would you do a screencast of one? <mhall119> should have said "properly packaging python programs" for extra alliteration points <dholbach> haha, an alliteration acrobat * mhall119 is all about alliteration <dholbach> :) <dholbach> I think the next videocast is going to be about fixing bugs and proposing the change for inclusion <dholbach> but yeah, I think we should definitely have one about packaging something from scratch <dholbach> although I'm still a bit unsure how to best do it - I'm not sure the way I did it today is suitable <dholbach> a screencast might be better <mhall119> yeah, I think that would be good <mhall119> will ustream do that? <dholbach> I'm not sure how that'd work <dholbach> I'll investigate <mhall119> I wonder if you could feed a copy of the X11 buffers into a fake webcam device, and tell ustream to use that <mhall119> sounds complicated though <dholbach> a little bit :) <dholbach> I'll see what I can do <mhall119> maybe not, there used to be a package called vloopback that did exactly that * mhall119 loves Linux <dholbach> oh wow #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-10 <YoBoY> good morning <dholbach> good morning! <locodir-user> Hello <daker> dholbach, mhall119 any chance to get my merge re-reviewed ? https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/loco-directory/ld-languages-menu/+merge/42760 <dholbach> I might be a bit busy today, but I'll try <daker> ty <czajkowski> aloha folks <daker> good morning czajkowski <czajkowski> daker: ello ello <mhall119> morning <nigelb> Morning mhall119 <mhall119> dholbach: got a solution to one of our openid problems in the works, should be ready to submit this afternoon (my time) <mhall119> lpupdate is going to be slower the first time around though <mhall119> especially on initial installs <cjohnston> all I want for christmas is for lpupdate to speed up <mhall119> not likely <cjohnston> I know <mhall119> you're getting coal instead <cjohnston> trying to get monday off.. this isnt going well :-/ <mhall119> I'm gonna make a "user_cleanup" management command to start removing some of these openiduser## accounts <cjohnston> sweet <dholbach> mhall119, sweet <cjohnston> got monday off <althara> Is the locobot only for approved locos? <CurtisElgin> Nope, you can request one be added to you Teams channel :) <althara> What do we do when the documented procedure for doing so fails? <althara> I sent an email almost two months ago and haven't heard anything but crickets. <czajkowski> althara: which loco <JanC> the locobots changed from ubuntu-eu.org to Canonical servers <JanC> so I guess the procedure to request them changed too <JanC> between 2 months ago and now <althara> czajkowski: US Washington LoCo. I've submitted and RT request as I was told to do in #ubuntu-irc and let them know the documentation was out of date. <althara> *an <czajkowski> althara: yes but as JanC point out the servers have changed and just need to be requested again <althara> actually they said loco bots weren't in use any more and that the standard ubuntu log bot what what is used now <althara> So ummm this is confusin <althara> g <czajkowski> right so it's just a name mix up tbh and has only just been changed. <czajkowski> as JanC and I've said you just need to request it again <czajkowski> or asking the IRC ops folks <althara> I did via RT. today <althara> That is what the irc folks told me to do <czajkowski> right <czajkowski> do you have a ticket number? <althara> 16118 <czajkowski> hmm <czajkowski> althara: well give it a few days and see <czajkowski> if you just logged it today I suspect it may not get looked at <althara> I know. I asked in here before I was pointed to #ubuntu-irc, since here was originally the place I got the info less than two months ago to email djennings@example.org for the loco bot (which I never heard back on at all). Now that the (I hope) correct procedure has been given to me I'll wait patiently. <czajkowski> ok <michael_k> czajkowski, silly question probably but are there any rules about when a log bot should be deployed on a channel? <czajkowski> michael_k: what do you mean ? <michael_k> czajkowski, I mean under what situations should we use a log bot? <czajkowski> michael_k: team core channels <michael_k> czajkowski, is it mandatory for locoteams channels as well? <czajkowski> yes <czajkowski> I'll be back later <michael_k> czajkowski, oops... I m afraid we missed that one. <czajkowski> but just in the middle of something <michael_k> OK <czajkowski> thanks <czajkowski> michael_k: np <michael_k> thank you <czajkowski> np <althara> michael_k: the request info on the wiki is now correct https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#LogBots <michael_k> althara, thanks! I 'll have a look! #ubuntu-locoteams 2010-12-11 <prvul> If some political party organize event promoting free software, is it ok for loco to participate in that event? <JanC> prvul: that might be tricky <JanC> it might depend on local circumstances though <prvul> JanC, sorry i was afk <prvul> i know that is tricky <prvul> i am lookin for some information about this issue <prvul> like there can be tricky with locos and money <prvul> but for that "problem" i found this <JanC> money is no problem if it's used to promote Ubuntu <prvul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamDealingWithMoney <prvul> we as loco do not support any political party <prvul> on event there will be no promo material of that party <prvul> only about ubuntu <JanC> only ubuntu or also other projects? <prvul> ubuntu and free software
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