#kubuntu-council 2018-04-01 <tsimonq2> Can I call myself a member of the Kubuntu Release Team? <tsimonq2> I'm part of the LP team. :P <tsimonq2> I'm just preparing an application for something, and it would certainly help my case. <valorie> certainly if you joined the LP team <tsimonq2> OK. <tsimonq2> Kool. <valorie> and you certainly have helped out a lot <tsimonq2> Right, I just wanted to make sure it was OK for me to make that assertion... <valorie> k * valorie goes back to working on unconnected stuff.... <tsimonq2> Have fun! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> valorie's spotted an i386 tester, target acquired :P <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Lol <valorie> hush you <acheronuk> lol <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> hehe #kubuntu-council 2018-04-02 <valorie> the beta 2 story is roughed out, acheronuk <valorie> marco has already made https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BionicBeaver/Beta2/Kubuntu <valorie> \o/ <valorie> so we should be ready <valorie> I hope <ricktimmis[m]> Excellent, very pleased to see Muon being shipped as standard. <acheronuk> yeah. discover is getting better, but a proper/old style gui package manager is a must IMO <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> TBH Discover is an updater which works fine. <valorie> it usually works fine for me in artful <valorie> occasionally gets stuck looking for more updates <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yeah it's fine so far in bionic. <valorie> good <valorie> I should start up the travel lappy and provision it for testing <valorie> which means doing some backups here first! <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/this-week-in-lubuntu-development-1/ #kubuntu-council 2018-04-03 <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0QV0Tu3U/file_5505.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I call this a win. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> :D <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I love how it came out. <valorie> nice <acheronuk> isos starting to arrive <acheronuk> slowly..... <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> my main SSD died last night <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> the minor good news is that I was able to fix and upgrade my failed install on the other disk <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> so I guess I'll be trying to provision that bionic install for now <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> but no irc set up yet <acheronuk> oh, PITA :/ <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> yeah, sucky timing <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> esp. since this travel laptop's drive died less than a month ago <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> sheesh <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> first I have to solve the hiDPI stuff since I can't squint at tiny type all day <ricktimmis[m]> Anyone see the application to join kubuntu-release team by bionicmac ? <ricktimmis[m]> Came in on my email, but I don't know what the joining rules are for that team, looks like it just require KC approval ?? <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> I won't approve it until he actually pitches in! <acheronuk> testers are invited to join from the description, but I would agree that people should prove some track record on that 1st <valorie> victory! #kubuntu-council 2018-04-04 <valorie> nice, tsimonq2! <valorie> oh, it was scrolled up to like yesterday, sorry <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> :D <ricktimmis[m]> OK well I will follow Valorie on the application. <ricktimmis[m]> I'll be on holiday for a week, but am Matrix on Riot to stay in the loop #kubuntu-council 2018-04-05 <valorie> mparillo: do you have edit rights on the website <valorie> ? <valorie> acheronuk: thanks for marking them ready for beta2 <valorie> need to leave for another meeting in a couple of minutes -- bad week for beta2! <mparillo> valorie: I do, thank you. <mparillo> Do you have a draft posted that could use another set of eyes? <mparillo> Even though zsync to worked fine on the first image, I could not get it to work on the re-spun image,but no matter ... Our images are marked ready: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds <mparillo> So, I think this draft post (Kubuntu Bionic Beaver (18.04) Beta 2 Candidate Image Testing) is unnecessary. Instead, I propose we clone Kubuntu Bionic Beaver (18.04) Beta 1 Released! <mparillo> That is: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-bionic-beaver-18-04-beta-1-released/ <mparillo> Draft saved. The link to the ISO is not live yet, and the link to the announcement needs to change once it is announced. <mparillo> I will be back this evening (very, very late in the evening UTC). <valorie> I had a draft for testing <valorie> I don't know if it was posted or not <valorie> since I lost my disk at at a very inopportune time! <valorie> oh, if it was never posted either change it or ditch it, yeah <valorie> oh, they haven't been published yet? <valorie> ok <valorie> had a meeting this afternoon and am trying to get back into the loop here <mparillo> I think you caught up on the -devel channel, but, correct, there is no beta-2 under http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/bionic/ <tsimonq2> Right. <tsimonq2> I'll loudly yell when Beta 2's out. <valorie> right, I"m actually adding to some of the test cases I did last night <tsimonq2> Likely in the form of Lubuntu's announcement. :P <valorie> I was so tired I was a bit brief <mparillo> But, I do have the new story in draft. All that it needs is the link to the official announcement and double-checking that I correctly changed the link from the news post to point to the beta-2 directory <mparillo> Has zsync been working for you? <valorie> :-) <valorie> I did get it to work when I pointed it at the right directory <valorie> I had to move the images off my write-only disk <mparillo> This is what I have always used: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/bionic-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync <valorie> I'm sure my son will help me fix that soon #kubuntu-council 2018-04-06 <mparillo> The beta-2 download link is now live, and tested from: https://kubuntu.org/?p=3811&preview=true <mparillo> All we need is the official release announcement, and a second set of eyes, and the news can be published. <valorie> looking good <mparillo> But I am running out of steam, and I know you are three time zones behind me and a night owl to boot. <valorie> I will publish once I can get the release announcement link in there <valorie> thank you so much mparillo <valorie> you have been a life-saver <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} <mparillo> My pleasure, and good night and sleepy {{hugs}} to you. <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-beta-2-released/ <acheronuk> \o/ <valorie> finally! <valorie> this was a bumpy beta2 <valorie> better than a bumpy LTS I guess <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/982149871149858817 <acheronuk> great. thanks. <ricktimmis[m]> Great news on Beta 2 release, well done everyone <valorie> it was sort of a heavy lift this time <valorie> sooooo many bugs in ubiquity <valorie> I really want to test calamares <valorie> oh gosh, near 1am <valorie> good to hear from you Rick <valorie> niters all and good day to the rest of ya! <acheronuk> valorie: thank you for that work overnight :) and mparillo <mparillo> Beta-2 news post is also G+'d <valorie> thanks, mparillo <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/04/a-preview-to-kubuntu-1804-from-beta-2.html <valorie> nice! <acheronuk> it's NOT new wallpaper. but I guess that may escape many <valorie> yeah <valorie> nor will it be default at release, or I missed the news flash <valorie> but they have to get *something* wrong <valorie> lol <valorie> and any news is good news <acheronuk> yep. no intention of making it default, though I do like it <acheronuk> whole idea was to just give a few alternatives <acheronuk> and a retro theme to that seemed kool <valorie> yes, that was a genius idea <valorie> ty! <valorie> thanks for doing that FFe paperwork, acheronuk <valorie> although I know you looooove doing it <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> no probs <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I don't hate it as much as I once did <valorie> same here with filing BRs <valorie> you get into a routine and hardly notice the pain #kubuntu-council 2018-04-07 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Krita 4 is in <valorie> nice! <valorie> too late for us? <acheronuk> valorie: too late how? <valorie> for us to get it packaged and uploaded and approved? <valorie> or has Debian already done it? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> He filed an FFe a few weeks ago. <valorie> oh! <valorie> sorry, I read that wrong <valorie> like: krita4 was finally released <valorie> sorry <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> It's good. :) <valorie> only half through my first coffee <valorie> lol <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I may be able to get Linode to sponsor us again. Spoke to ramirezanna@example.org. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> \o/ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> great. I tweeted them earlier BTW. forgot the other day, but done it now <valorie> how was scale, ahoneybun? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> It was fun. valorie <valorie> meet anyone awesome? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> PIA folks were cool. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Already LFNW next month! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> No, THIS month! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> :O #kubuntu-council 2018-04-08 <valorie> weeeeeeee, back with two new drives <valorie> thomas said the one drive isn't *dead* but failing <tsimonq2> Weeeeeeeeeeee <valorie> so I'm keeping it just in case I ever need the data <valorie> tossed the rest of 'em <valorie> these were the drives from the msi <valorie> so rather old <Mamarok> there is a pending request for the launchpad team "Kubuntu release" by a guy called Donald Tanner (bionicmac), do we know him? Seems not to be otherwise active on launchpad <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> he is relatively new, but was very helpful in testing for Beta 2 <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> good to wait to add him until after release, I think <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> in case he's a flash in the pan <Mamarok> then we should probably tell im <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> I will <Mamarok> thanks :-) <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> it's just been a crazy week what with losing an SSD and the testing and a bunch of meetings <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> to say nothing of GSoC <Mamarok> yes, very unfortunate we have so many things at the same time, GSoC timing is not exactly optimal <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> esp. for kubuntu! <IrcsomeBot> <Valoriez> oh well, life is what it is <Mamarok> yep, and it got in my way a lot lately <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I'll be going for Debian Developer shortly after LFNW. \o/ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> and then ^^^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvAYwpUDv8 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> ð <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Nah, from there, my focus is to go for core-dev. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I stick by that vid then! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> hehe <valorie> tsimonq2: lol #kubuntu-council 2018-04-09 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004387.html <valorie> have read, and am thinking <tsimonq2> OK. <tsimonq2> valorie: Will you respond tonight? <valorie> maaaaaybe? <tsimonq2> OK :) <valorie> I know you are impatient, now that you've sent your email <tsimonq2> hahahahahahahaha <tsimonq2> Well, three flavors have already replied. :P <valorie> and it was well-reasoned and well-argued <valorie> yes <tsimonq2> Are you +1 on the idea? <tsimonq2> And, thanks! <valorie> leaning that way, yes <tsimonq2> Kool. <valorie> but I would like to know what the "big boys" have to say <valorie> I realize that this is a flavors thing <tsimonq2> oh boy <valorie> but the release team is in charge <valorie> ya know? <tsimonq2> The conversation with Adam and Steve is what *sparked* this email. <tsimonq2> So I'm pretty sure they're +1. <valorie> I realize that <tsimonq2> And yes, I get that. <tsimonq2> But flavors also have to be in agreement. ;) <valorie> imo it is basically changing the name and removing the freezes <tsimonq2> Yeah. <valorie> and as long as we get testing, I'm fine with that <valorie> the freezes are sort of a pain <tsimonq2> Especially because they don't have *any* benefit. <valorie> we'll have to up our game on writing test cases <valorie> agreed <tsimonq2> That's the point, really. It's to kick butt on making CI and testing better, *constantly* and *together* - not just when we're called to for a release. <valorie> it is a necessity with such small teams <tsimonq2> Exactly. <valorie> I doubt many of our users realize how few <tsimonq2> Exactly. <valorie> it helps that we have much better quality all over the system now <valorie> and MUCH better software <valorie> and I suppose hardware <tsimonq2> True. <valorie> kde has kicked it up a notch with their CI <valorie> thanks be to saint Scarlett <tsimonq2> Oh, she's done that too? <tsimonq2> Nice! <tsimonq2> I see her active in Debian lately as well. :) <valorie> she was the one who created it in the first place <tsimonq2> Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, <valorie> bcooksley and TheOneRing and kfunk do it now <valorie> agreed <valorie> of course Harald was the original genius <tsimonq2> sitter is one madman <tsimonq2> But ya gotta love him. <tsimonq2> :D <valorie> indeed <valorie> oh, I do <valorie> endlessly <valorie> even on LP <valorie> lol <tsimonq2> hahaha <valorie> he was the boy wonder of Amarok <valorie> and so it has continued <tsimonq2> hahahaha <tsimonq2> valorie: "I was waiting for buy-in from the Release team" you read #ubuntu-release, right? :P <tsimonq2> Otherwise, thanks! <valorie> official buyin <valorie> on the list <valorie> yes, I read it religiously <valorie> right now the sun is shining and I can't stay inside any longer! <tsimonq2> hehe #kubuntu-council 2018-04-10 <acheronuk> ** cough ** website banner? <valorie> I woke up today thinking about that, actually #kubuntu-council 2018-04-11 <valorie> acheronuk: didn't you find or somebody find some canonical bionic art ? <valorie> DDG can't seem to find it <valorie> maybe I need to switch to goooooooogle <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1759601/+attachment/5093611/+files/bionic_beavers.tar <valorie> huh, is'n <valorie> t there a place to SEE it? <valorie> or must I dl and open? <valorie> also why couldn't I find that <valorie> is this really IT? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ubuntu-18.04-default-wallpaper-2.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Yes. <valorie> omg <valorie> ok <valorie> and I guess the artwork will be in that tar that acheronuk linked to <valorie> ok, sent out a call for artists <valorie> I'll tweet it once it hits the archive <tsimonq2> wxl: You got a conf pack for LFNW, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight? <valorie> I'm hoping so but thinking maybe not -- wondering if there is time * valorie has never ordered one because we're not an acceptable Loco <tsimonq2> While you're at it, get one for SELF, will ya? :) <valorie> wxl is going to SELF? <tsimonq2> No, but I am. :P <valorie> but is there a local group who will have a table <valorie> the swag is no good with nobody to hand it out <valorie> lfnw seems super un-organized this year <valorie> last time I tried to confirm a table they told me on the list to do it on the site, and one the site one could not do that yet <tsimonq2> Hmmm. <wxl> i think i did but don't remember @tsimonq2 <tsimonq2> wxl: Can you? <tsimonq2> Mr. LoCo Council. :P <wxl> uhhhh <wxl> i still need to get my plane ticket :O <tsimonq2> wxl: Two weeks away! <wxl> yeah so maybe i should let you do that and i'll do the ticket :) <tsimonq2> Uhm, I don't have an active LoCo. <tsimonq2> And I can't get it that way in the next two weeks. <wxl> oh for god's sake <tsimonq2> Love you, wxl. :) <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> valorie please make a task on phab and assign me for the banner. #kubuntu-council 2018-04-12 <valorie> ok <valorie> ahoneybun: https://phabricator.kde.org/T8497 <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> thanks! <ahoneybun> valorie, sent my first attempt. <ahoneybun> acheronuk, tsimonq2 ^ <ahoneybun> https://phabricator.kde.org/T8497 <valorie> I like that a lot #kubuntu-council 2018-04-13 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun valorie @Sick_Rimmit yofel mamarok: If Michael from tuxdigital does us a release video, are we Ok with it being primarilly pubished on his channel? We then link it and add to our playlists? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Can we cross post it? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> cross post meaning what? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> re-upload? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Fwd from ahoneybun: Can we cross post it? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> whatever that means ^^^ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Other question: â¦ 2. What day do you want the promo video released? â¦ Why I am asking: â¦ I was thinking that I might make a full video of me on camera talking about Kubuntu 18.04 and my involvement prior to release and then releasing the promo video on Thursday. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> post it on his channel and our's linking back to his. <MichaelTunnell> as long as it isnt posted directly on the Kubuntu channel the rest is fine. If it is added to a playlist then it is great <MichaelTunnell> I made the KDE Promo videos for 5.11 and 5.12 = collectively they received 93,389 views for KDE's channel and TuxDigital received 1,968 views and only 320 clicks from links in video description. <MichaelTunnell> so I was thinking since Kubuntu isn't really trying to build an audience for this kind of thing but I am, so I am asking because it would be more beneficial to me to post it on my channel. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I have no objections. seems fair enough in return IMO <MichaelTunnell> :thumbup: <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> but I would like opinions from here <MichaelTunnell> did the emoji work in Telegram when sending from irc? :) <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @MichaelTunnell, nope. fail <MichaelTunnell> dang it :( <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, On camera? ð± <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Will it go out late? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Idk :{ <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> *:) <MichaelTunnell> I dont care if Kubuntu wants to upload the video as well and schedule it to release later as a just in case the people who browse on youtube would find it. So maybe schedule to release it 2 weeks later as that would give my channel enough time to generate the views I'd like to get. <valorie> imo more news is good news! <MichaelTunnell> valorie: what is that in reference to? <valorie> with you doing a video, MichaelTunnell <valorie> <3 <MichaelTunnell> well my question is related to Kubuntu not posting it on the Kubuntu channel until after the blogs and such use mine so that I can benefit from the press. Kubuntu would get the same benefit it would already get from the video sharing but I would get YouTube views and such. <valorie> understood <valorie> you get more views than we do <valorie> therefore, we'll get more good promo directly from you than in our own chan <MichaelTunnell> :D <MichaelTunnell> I would also unleash my normal marketing techniques that I wouldn't typically do for content outside of my channel so likely much more :) <valorie> <3 <valorie> I'm feeling really good about this release <valorie> a nice presentation of Plasma and the rest of KDE software I hope <MichaelTunnell> I am as well. I have been using Neon since first neon release because Kubuntu 16.04 was well, let's not talk about it . . . with that said, I am switching back to Kubuntu with 18.04 release. :) <valorie> neon is great too, but yes, kubuntu has my heart <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> ditto <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> started on that :) <valorie> excellent <acheronuk> MichaelTunnell: that also goes into some of the stuff you requested about new features. though it needs more done <valorie> can I add Falkon in there, acheronuk? <valorie> if I can login to the friggin' wiki <acheronuk> add in how? I mention it <valorie> oh, missed it <valorie> ah, under new applicaations, of course <acheronuk> new, but not new. fair enough to go there though <valorie> I guess we can use this for the RC testing <valorie> with a bit of editing <valorie> there is still some "beta" in there <valorie> and the social links have no images <acheronuk> probably. I only made a quick start this morning. it needs much tweaking I'm sure <valorie> looks great already, so good start! <valorie> mparillo: ^^^ <acheronuk> should probably mention some of the other default settings changes <acheronuk> e.g. single click, and where to find the setting should people want to change back <valorie> ok, trying to login to fix the little niggles and I'll add something about single click now being default <valorie> uh <valorie> we're we going with double-click as default? <ricktimmis[m]> Hello friends <acheronuk> have ubuntu formally asked us how many years we are prepare to support for the LTS? <acheronuk> hi ricktimmis[m] :) <acheronuk> valorie: duh. I meant double click <ricktimmis[m]> Will we ship Falkon installed as part of the iso image ? <valorie> I hope so! <ricktimmis[m]> Me too <valorie> I assume not the miniman packageset <valorie> minimal <valorie> which by the way went flawlessly for me in one test <ricktimmis[m]> I really like it, been using it daily on 17.10 from clivejo ppa <ricktimmis[m]> Have had no issues <valorie> and is still running for me on my travel lappy <acheronuk> It is not currently. I am concerned somewhat about security updates for webengine on that <valorie> oh, Falkon is my goto <valorie> I don't use anything else now <valorie> for 6 months or so <acheronuk> So am a bit wary of making it on our iso/meta <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @tsimonq2 ^^ <valorie> the new one isn't built yet.... and tsimonq2 is not feeling well <valorie> how long are we planning to support this LTS? <acheronuk> remember we will have many point releases of 18.04, and SRUs to do. so maybe Falkon will get updates and can go on <valorie> if we discussed this I don't remember <valorie> acheronuk: I'm not gonna fight you about it! <acheronuk> I just asked that. ubuntu usually email flavours to ask, but I see no email <valorie> you are the guy on the line so it is your call <valorie> does 3 years seem fair? <acheronuk> I would like to see falkon get a few bugfix updates 1st <acheronuk> 3 years seems fair <valorie> we're not in the last week yet so sh&% isn't hitting the fan YET <ricktimmis[m]> I think Falkon makes our products really special, and of course I am excited at the possibility. <valorie> but so far it seems very stable to me <ricktimmis[m]> However, I support and accept advice of deve <valorie> ricktimmis[m]: yup <acheronuk> they have made a great start with it under the kde mantle <valorie> oh, do we have a new kde-connect yet? <acheronuk> we do <valorie> I lost track <valorie> cool <acheronuk> and new krita 4.0.1 <acheronuk> and new kstars 2.9.4 with libindi support <ricktimmis[m]> New Krista s brilliant I love it <valorie> um <acheronuk> I'm annoyed about digikam being old, but we can't build newer <valorie> it is OK for us to call this LTS before the .1 release? <valorie> digikam gets so much work! <valorie> they just need to Make Releases <acheronuk> they have been! requiring newer exiv2 than we have in Bionic :( <acheronuk> eviv2 is in main <valorie> ah <valorie> boo <acheronuk> I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/1715931 <valorie> ubuntu refuses to upgrade? <acheronuk> but no-one cared until it was too late <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Wait wait wait before making assertions. :P <valorie> I saw that the newer appstream will be included <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I can finish it once I'm feeling better. <mparillo> Yes, I can add back the images for social media. Thanks for noticing well ahead of time. <valorie> I'm editing now so I think it's locked atm <valorie> gosh, I'm going to have to ask nggraham for a list of the changes we've made to default settings <valorie> or is that the only one? <valorie> ok, done editing for now <valorie> I was sure we changed more than one default <valorie> mparillo: <valorie> ^^^ <valorie> pfff, more coffee needed <acheronuk> not all changes are likely worthy of a mention <valorie> of course <acheronuk> - hybrid look and feel <acheronuk> - double click <valorie> I'll start working on an announcement for the website <acheronuk> - sddm login and locker background <acheronuk> - wallpapers <valorie> oh right! * valorie sips more coffee <acheronuk> those are the most immediately visible <acheronuk> - baloo indexing- might be worth mentioning that, and how to turn full content indexing back on <mparillo> As far as full-text indexing, I think showing how to turn it on (to the old / upstream) default is important, but more important is why to turn it on. I see 10 articles about turning it off for every one about turning it on. <valorie> I don't know enough about this <valorie> I don't even know if mine is turned on or off <valorie> although search in dolphin isn't working, so perhaps it is off <valorie> which: boo <valorie> I've not had trouble with baloo for *years* <IrcsomeBot> * tsimonq2 naps <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Had some hot tea and some cold medicine. Should be somewhat better later. <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Thanks. <3 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> who poked Adam? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004407.html <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I bet on @tsimonq2 <acheronuk> so ack on 3 years from me <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Long standing TB item that I did in fact poke about. <IrcsomeBot> * tsimonq2 goes back to sleep <valorie> ok, have written drafts for release candidate testing and release <valorie> please fix when you have a chance. <MichaelTunnell> I dont think KDE Falkon has had enough time for the transition to be included and supported in an LTS by default <MichaelTunnell> I suppose having both KDE Falkon and Firefox would be fine but might be excessive? <MichaelTunnell> has Kubuntu considered doing something like Ubuntu MATE's Welcome where you could give extra install options for KDE Falkon for example #kubuntu-council 2018-04-14 <acheronuk> clive wanted to at one point. did not gain much support <MichaelTunnell> interesting <valorie> Clive wanted it, but didn't want to do the programming -- and neither did anybody else <valorie> it probably could be forked from Mate..... if we wanted it <MichaelTunnell> I understand. It would be cool to have but not vital. I wonder how much work it would be to use kdialog and scripts instead. <valorie> about that I have no clue <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> About the welcome center, I can take that project. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I've been working with Budgie on the concept for something. <valorie> do you think we need it? <valorie> I would find it annoying <valorie> but maybe newcomers would like it <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> For newcomers, yeah. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I'd find it to be good. <MichaelTunnell> I think it would be very helpful for beginners because it is essentially an OEM style setup without relying solely on the OEM approach. It also provides a "let's start here" place. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Right. <valorie> cool <MichaelTunnell> it would be annoying to experienced users maybe but they can just dismiss it once and ignore it forever :) <ricktimmis[m]> I really think we should introduce a welcome centre. We really need to take every opportunity to grow our community. <acheronuk> I'm sure I agreed last time, but it did not get taken up. I am for it, as long as it is genuinely useful. <acheronuk> As far as I recall there is no prohibition from introducing new packages into an LTS release, even after we ship the .0, so maybe this is something that could arrive in the .1? <ricktimmis[m]> OK, sounds great, I be happy to help on this, perhaps with content, suggestions, testing etc.. <ricktimmis[m]> @tsimonq2 hope your feeling better. happy to help work on welcome centre with you. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @acheronuk, New packages in a stable release gets *weird*, and I haven't done it before, so it should be fine. <ricktimmis[m]> @MichaelTunnell are you planning to do a review / expose about the release on Tuxdigital ? <mparillo> For a welcome page, a key is to have an option to turn it ramirezanna@example.org. https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-hello has a slider in the lower right for Launch at start, but new KDE users may not realize the upstream default is to restore all ramirezanna@example.org. <mparillo> https://imgur.com/a/A3Hfq <ricktimmis[m]> That's an excellent idea <tsimonq2> Right. <tsimonq2> But, do note that manjaro-hello is based off of GTK. <ricktimmis[m]> Creating a welcome page gives us the chance to co-ordinate or channels of communication. <tsimonq2> Right, I totally see the use for it. <ricktimmis[m]> How about a plasmoid <tsimonq2> -1 <ricktimmis[m]> That would give the user the ability to just remove it <tsimonq2> My goal in working with Budgie (and ofc Lubuntu) is so that we can create one codebase and one frontend with different text. <ricktimmis[m]> OK, what about a welcome activity ? <tsimonq2> It should be a dialog, really. <ricktimmis[m]> They both QT based ? <tsimonq2> But both are Plasma-specific, which I want to avoid here. <ricktimmis[m]> Ummmm. I am not sure about dialog <tsimonq2> Well, window, you get what I mean. <ricktimmis[m]> We've often talked about promoting activities <ricktimmis[m]> Why avoid plasma ? <tsimonq2> So we can work with others. <tsimonq2> I'm not saying it can't work under Plasma, I'm just saying it shouldn't be Plasma-specific. <tsimonq2> It should be pure Qt code. <tsimonq2> And a window, similar to what MATE has. <ricktimmis[m]> Plasms, activities and plasmoids or core to kubuntu <tsimonq2> On the flipside of that, why create something *only* Kubuntu can enjoy? <tsimonq2> LXQt and Budgie don't and won't utilize those technologies. <tsimonq2> I'm not saying it can't be integrated. <ricktimmis[m]> OK, how could we approach it so as to enable plasma, but still make a shared viewable code base. For the other stuff ? <tsimonq2> But the core parts should be agnostic. <ricktimmis[m]> Ok, so we want the vie en components separate from the models and data <tsimonq2> My approach, should I work on this would be agnosticism first, then allow specific flavors to do what they'd like. <tsimonq2> Right, sort of. <ricktimmis[m]> Then we could interfaces with the data from a plasmoid, Lxde and budgie do their thing <tsimonq2> Exactly. <tsimonq2> I'll sprint with Dustin from Budgie at LFNW in < 2 weeks. <tsimonq2> (Like I planned to before. :) ) <ricktimmis[m]> OK what about a qml front end <tsimonq2> It depends on what Dustin is familiar with, as I'd like one person from each flavor to be able to work on it without "language barriers" <ricktimmis[m]> OK, well maybe you guys to consider the vie component in the context of us wrapping it in a plasmoid <tsimonq2> OK <ricktimmis[m]> I'd be c willing to work on a plasmoid wrapper <tsimonq2> OK <ricktimmis[m]> Let me know how you get on and give me a nudge when you think I could do in and help <tsimonq2> Sure. <ricktimmis[m]> If you have a shared working repo, on Phab, Launchpad etc.. please let me know, and I can take a look <tsimonq2> OK <MichaelTunnell> ricktimmis[m]: not only am I doing a video for Kubuntu 18.04, I am also making a promo video for the release that Kubuntu can use to promote all the great stuff with the release. <ricktimmis[m]> Oh that is Awesome @MichaelTunnell I can't wait to see what you put together. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> valorie: Did you get bad snow like we did last night? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> An inch an hour all night, probably a good 14 hours! <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> And it's starting up again tonight, ughh <MichaelTunnell> ricktimmis[m]: :) me too <MichaelTunnell> I plan to do a Kubuntu promo video that is similar to the Plasma release videos I've been doing. I also am going to make a video for Kubuntu 18.04 that is an on-camera "so here is what is coming and how I was involved in it" type of video <valorie> snow! heck no <valorie> rain here <valorie> https://cukic.co/2018/04/14/plasma-vault-with-kde-connect-and-more/ <valorie> for 18.10 <tsimonq2> valorie: hah well I look forward to going to a place with NO SNOW! <valorie> we had a few inches of snow this winter <valorie> it was fun <valorie> but it never lasts <tsimonq2> hah <valorie> btw: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-November/010864.html and following <valorie> clive pointed out to me privately that he did fork code from Mint <tsimonq2> Ah <valorie> https://i.imgur.com/Pb7uCTj.jpg <valorie> I totally forgot about that <tsimonq2> I would like to work with others though. <valorie> agreed <tsimonq2> And Mint's codebases are horrible. <valorie> just wanted to make people aware that there has been some work done on this <valorie> and that there was pushback <valorie> which is why he stopped <tsimonq2> valorie: Only one person pushed back with historical context. <tsimonq2> I see no reason that it should block further progress, however. <valorie> Clive was somewhat conflict-averse <valorie> I think pushback just tends to make ideas better <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I think doing it in QML and Qt would be best. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Python as well. <MichaelTunnell> I think pushback is needed for innovation <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Sorry for being blunt, but you won't be the one writing it? :) <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @MichaelTunnell, Right <tsimonq2> It'll be with Qt <MichaelTunnell> tsimonq2: you should write it in COBOL <tsimonq2> MichaelTunnell: Naw, Fortran. <MichaelTunnell> fair <tsimonq2> I hear there's Qt bindings! <MichaelTunnell> I wouldnt be surprised .. . .programming can be weird * acheronuk looks up his old fortran stuff <tsimonq2> :D <valorie> I have a friend who makes a living with COBOL <valorie> in France <valorie> for banks and insurance firms <tsimonq2> hah <valorie> lol <acheronuk> who is emailing about out LTS status? * tsimonq2 pokes valorie <tsimonq2> GPG sign it please. <valorie> oh <valorie> maybe I can do that..... <valorie> right now, talking with said french friend <valorie> in a bit I will investigate <acheronuk> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/8c4m07/kde_and_ubuntu/ <acheronuk> good comments <tsimonq2> \o/ <tsimonq2> Oooh, peruse was just accepted into Debian. \o/ <valorie> weeeeeeeeeeeeee <valorie> thanks so much for everyone who worked on that <valorie> looooong process! <tsimonq2> Meh, it was mostly just me procrastinating ;) <acheronuk> silly bit of code <tsimonq2> Imeanwhat <tsimonq2> acheronuk: True <acheronuk> one lib. so much debate <acheronuk> so a *bleep* leaf package. sigh <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Are you thinking this is latte-dock? :) <acheronuk> argh. no. but that was another! <tsimonq2> hah <tsimonq2> Well with this one, upstream doesn't know how to do library management correctly. <tsimonq2> And poor tsimonq2 never had to deal with improper upstream library management. <tsimonq2> :P <acheronuk> elisa is being done. I looked at the wip packaging. O_o <valorie> does it work yet? <tsimonq2> Is it bad? :) <tsimonq2> A newbie packager took that one. <valorie> doesn't seem worthwhile to do until it works <tsimonq2> (Well, a new*er* packager) <acheronuk> valorie: it works. as much as a preview release might <valorie> to like, play music? <acheronuk> valorie: it is in here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/experimental <acheronuk> it plays it <tsimonq2> peruse> Ah, and ofc lamby files an RC bug against it. Sigh. :P <tsimonq2> Debian bug 895699 <tsimonq2> No bot in here? O_O <tsimonq2> bugs.debian.org/895699 <valorie> we're still not registered correctly <acheronuk> elisa plays music. just the UI is still more about looking nice. not so good with funtion <valorie> didn't vish sign the fla assigning the ev rights to his code attribution? <valorie> hmmm <valorie> he did: https://ev.kde.org/rules/fla.php <tsimonq2> "Copyright assignment is a personal act. It is entirely optional and at an individual developer, contributor or copyright holder's discretion whether to assign copyright to KDE e.V. or not." <tsimonq2> "Valorie Zimmermann (1.3.4)" <tsimonq2> They spelled your name wrong, valorie. :P <valorie> ha <valorie> I think the FLA spells out that if copyright needs to be changed and the person can't be contacted the FLA kicks in <valorie> anyway #kubuntu-council 2018-04-15 <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> We should see how the 16.04 to 18.04 upgrade will go. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I've tested it with Ubuntu and that went just fine. <valorie> hmmm, I did that with upgrade to 17.04 <valorie> unsure how to do it lts>lts since it won't be lts for some months <valorie> how did you test it? <tsimonq2> sudo do-release-upgrade -d <valorie> ok, no diff from my artful upgrade then <tsimonq2> Right. <valorie> tsimonq2: do we test the RC "candidate" like we do the alphas and betas? <valorie> I can't remember <valorie> was going to send an email reminding everyone to expect it <valorie> but on tuesday, or thursday? <tsimonq2> valorie: I don't remember the particulars of this one, sorry. <valorie> ok #kubuntu-council 2018-04-16 * acheronuk runs upgrade tests <tsimonq2> Qt 5.9.5 landed. \o/ <tsimonq2> Ooh, Debian 12 will be "bookworm" <acheronuk> wow. xenial and artful upgrades worked ok <acheronuk> had to fix some niggles, but not bad <valorie> oh, you tested that already? <valorie> good <valorie> thought of doing it, forgot <acheronuk> installed just about every kde thing in the repo ins some VMs, then did do-release-upgrade -d on them <acheronuk> found a few file conflicts, but otherwise smooth! <acheronuk> people repeating that will still help though. may have missed some stuff <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk 16.04 to 18.04? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yep <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Awesome! #kubuntu-council 2018-04-18 <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Who has access to the Facebook and G+ accounts? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I have access to the G+ and youtube brand account, but that seems differnet to the one mparillo uses <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> which is weird <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> It's all one Google account. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> no, it's not <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://plus.google.com/u/0/107577785796696065138 <acheronuk> and https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/112102796730023795852/+KubuntuPodcast <acheronuk> the main account and podcast account have become seperate somehow <acheronuk> I guess as the 2nd was linked from Rick's account? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea that is different. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> not essential we sort that, but would be less confusing if we can <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yea tbf the Podcast is dead and even the telegram room has been changed. So I think we can get rid of that and just use one Kubuntu G+ account. <mparillo> I think "my" G+ account came from JR. <mparillo> Also, I saw https://plus.google.com/+KubuntuPodcast so I grabbed https://plus.google.com/+KubuntuLinux (No, I could not simply grab +kubuntu or +Kubuntu), for "my" G+ page. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> That one has a lot of followers! #kubuntu-council 2018-04-19 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, The other is linked as a 'brand account' to manage our youtube channel <Mamarok> I was wondering: does anybody ever look at the Kubuntu chat on Facebook's messenger? Doesn't seem so, maybe we should disable it and indicate other means of contact. Since pretty everyone has a smartphone they can as well use Telegram, no? <Mamarok> I just checked all tne PMs on Messenger, none was ever answered,. so I disabled the messenger option. Now we should tell people other means of contact <acheronuk> Mamarok: to be honest, I wouldn't know where or how to use it! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Neither do I. #kubuntu-council 2018-04-20 <ricktimmis[m]> I have arranged for an article to appear in Linux Magazine, with a Kubuntu 18.04 cover disc. <ricktimmis[m]> I will be drafting the article next week, it will be a review of Kubuntu with the focus on Plasma Desktop and activities. I will share it for review here when I have the first draft. They've asked for around 2000 word s <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ricktimmis[m], No pressure then! <ricktimmis[m]> He he, it's talking in paper format, my specialty <ricktimmis[m]> #GoodStuff <mparillo> Activities are a key Plasma differentiator. <valorie> nice! * valorie volunteers to edit #kubuntu-council 2018-04-21 <valorie> huh, checked the calendar and the RC was supposed to come out yesterday <valorie> never saw any such thing or any talk of one <tsimonq2> The RC doesn't "come out" <tsimonq2> Also <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2018-April/001243.html <tsimonq2> "We will shut down cronjobs and spin some RC images late Friday or earlySaturday once the archive and proposed-migration have settled a bit,and we expect everyone with a vested interest in a flavour (or two) anda few spare hours here and there to get to testing to make sure we haveanother uneventful release next week. Last minute panic is never fun." <valorie> ah, I remembered an announcement from before <valorie> I guess that is it <valorie> ish <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Help test the 18.04 RCs! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html #kubuntu-council 2018-04-22 <valorie> wow, I'm back in time to help! <valorie> cool <mparillo> In the -devel channel, tsimonq2 is telling us to wait a bit. <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/bionic-18-04-release-candidate-images-ready-for-testing/ <--- tweet , g+, etc. <valorie> I doubt we get testers from FB <valorie> i'll do the kubuntuforums <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/987859201870315520 <valorie> couldn't do the forums <valorie> dang thing still isn't letting me login <valorie> I'll write to Paul again, sheesh <valorie> meanwhile I'll eat dinner while downloading <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYzlz8Xqio <mparillo> It is mostly a just-the-facts review, but I think it well illustrates BB. G+'d #kubuntu-council 2018-04-23 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> [19:21] <infinity> slangasek: I think the current plan is to let the world settle and kick off a fresh set of images before bed (in 4 or 5 hours or so). <valorie> 14:25] <sforshee> slangasek: my best guess is about 5-6 hours, that's a really rough estimate though <valorie> which is ok for me since today is acceptance day for GSoC <valorie> so I have some email to write <valorie> yikes, this looks a bit scary for update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZSjKM6pVkt/ <valorie> I think I'll wait a bit before going ahead #kubuntu-council 2018-04-24 <valorie> hmmm: https://medium.com/@temisclopeolimac/its-vvave-c3f83da90380 <valorie> really? vvave ? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Yep. <valorie> ugh <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/10.1ubuntu2 <valorie> looks like marching towards the final <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2018-April/001244.html <valorie> exciting, tsimonq2! <valorie> dare I ask how the driving test went? <tsimonq2> Scheduling screwup at the DMV. I didn't click a button. (Their website is a horrible mess.) <tsimonq2> So, I take my test, get this, on *Thursday* *morning* <tsimonq2> Gonna be a looooooooooooooooooooong day. <valorie> dear god <valorie> hmmm, restart was not entirely without problems after all those updates <valorie> Plasma froze and had to REISUB <valorie> then it is sort of fine, but my dpi seems tiny #kubuntu-council 2018-04-25 <valorie> ok, that's better <valorie> packagekit crashed, had to dpkg --configure -a, update via apt, and all seems well <valorie> huh, I think it was because I tried out prime-select and chose intel <valorie> back in nvidia <valorie> and everything looks back to normal <valorie> [19:26] <infinity> World respinning, off to bed. <valorie> 4 minutes ago <tsimonq2> valorie: He's in London right now, lol. <tsimonq2> He's at Canonical <tsimonq2> *Canonical's Bluefin office. <valorie> I understand <valorie> "world respinning" is the important bit I thought <tsimonq2> That's apparent. <tsimonq2> (Steve said that would be the case earlier.) <valorie> yep <tsimonq2> Kool. :) <valorie> which is why I took the afternoon to get my hair cut and do some work out in the yard <valorie> and then fight with my laptop! <tsimonq2> hehe <tsimonq2> Funny enough, I got a haircut this afternoon as well! <valorie> so your new license photo will show a lotta EAR <tsimonq2> hahahahahaha <tsimonq2> Maybe! <valorie> :-) <valorie> testing time! <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFaLq-L9FnQ <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> Mostly positive, but something is a bit off to me. can't quite say what <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> probably as I never heard of him before now :P <valorie> I like it <valorie> except he talks a lot <valorie> ok, everybody hates oem, so I'll start there <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> OEM works fine here ;) <acheronuk> I don't hate oem. only hated it when it was busted <valorie> well, it's more fiddly, since one has to restart a couple of times <valorie> and now i'm used to it #kubuntu-council 2018-04-26 <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> How would the KC feel about commercial support from Altispeed replacing the mystery one we have now? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, To clarify, we can set prices. But it would be either commercial support for individuals or if a company wants a "Kubuntu approved commercial service" if they plan on mass deploying Kubuntu, they can handle that. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I'll talk to Noah in person this weekend but numbers are up in the air. Shoot. :) <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I don't think we officially have one. I know about what our sites have. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, We have one listed on our site that nobody knows about. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> (meaning, within Kubuntu) <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yeah I know. <valorie> tsimonq2: pm <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzuylNzpZIw <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Are we out the door yet? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> no. waiting for ubuntu to fix their live session and respin <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Ah <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> So what are we doing with the banner? <acheronuk> urgh. forgot about that <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> we need it bigger though 1024px is too small <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> 1024? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun your images are 1024, and if I try to scale them up they lose sharpness <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> (Photo, 1280x327) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8AgRuv00/file_6181.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> how is that? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I sorta recreated it <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Well I made it for the banner on the site. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> so it is just 1024x264 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, then it is too small <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> That is how the current banner is. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> site banner needs 1500px <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> 1500x what? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> pixels <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> by what <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I need another size <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> 1500x264? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> current one is 1500x386 <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I'll redo it during lunch. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I have the one I did that can go up as a stopgap until whenever <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> can you make the "Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS" test similar to that one in placement? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x329) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/lWV3uHit/file_6185.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> that's lost the evenness you did have :( <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> I know but for that size it's tough with the Plasma wallpaper <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> hmm <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Got the 4K wallpaper and redid it. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x329) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FK0VPffF/file_6187.jpg <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> yeah, that is basically what I did <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> @acheronuk xcf <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/oinbURQU/file_6188.xcf <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> haha. to be honest, I bet the xcf there and the one I have are much the same. just a case of tweaking sizes and postions of the 3 bits! <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Most likely lol. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> As long as we have a banner there when the release announcement goes out, then Kool. we can always tweak it more. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Yep. <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> Let me know where we need to change it. I can also change the twitter one too. <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> there is a problem with telling you how to tweak it. as naturally, I'll be telling you to make it look like mine ð <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> lol <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> How do we feel about changing the twitter one to build up people? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> forwarded those to devel for Nate <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, what does "build up people" mean? <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> build up the suspense? <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ahoneybun, I doubt many would notice! but yeah <IrcsomeBot> * acheronuk looks up twitter sizes <valorie> ooo, still no release? <valorie> hmmm <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> I tried a twitte one without the K gear, as we already have the gear as our user image? <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I passed my test, with eight off. I can only get 24 off. â¦ I got too far into the intersection for a left turn and I hesitated too much (which I intentionally did because I thought that was the right thing to do... But it costed me points) <ricktimmis[m]> Hey Great Banner, I love it <valorie> congratulations, tsimonq2 <ricktimmis[m]> Congrats @tsimonq2 <valorie> you wuz wrong about timing of release though <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Thanks :) <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, Yeeeaaaaahhhh <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Oh well <valorie> better a late fix than never <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> valorie: I'll end up publishing announcements for Lubuntu when I get to your place. <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> I need a nap....... <valorie> can't wxl do it? <valorie> i"m not done reading -release, but it seems like sloooooow progress <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Nah, I have some stuff I need to put in there yet that he doesn't know the whole details about. <valorie> ok, logjam seems broken <valorie> I'm marking our images ready <acheronuk> why? <acheronuk> valorie: they are being respun right now <valorie> ah <valorie> yeah, it says rebuilding <acheronuk> mark for testing reverts that? <valorie> are they respinning all ? <acheronuk> yes <valorie> yeah, that reverted that <acheronuk> the fix is in ubiquity. plus slideshow translations that got missed <valorie> looks like we have new ISOs <acheronuk> they are coming <valorie> yeah, the old test results are still on the page <acheronuk> they might vanish when the rebuild is published <acheronuk> [19:27] <acheronuk> so what QA do we do on these respins? sanity check on ubiquity and slideshows? <acheronuk> [19:28] <infinity> acheronuk: boot-install-reboot smoketest, make sure the slideshow kinda slideshows, and for gtkish flavours, check screen reader works. <valorie> we certainly can't do a whole retest at this late date <valorie> but I'll dig out my trusty usb drive One More Time <acheronuk> really we are testing that ubiquity and slideshows did not break obviously from the update, and that the reboot fix still works <valorie> there is a reboot fix? <valorie> I missed that <valorie> I'll do oem then <valorie> again <acheronuk> reboot fix was a previous re-spin <acheronuk> I'm losing track! <valorie> last night's test I still got my bug <valorie> and had to REISUM <valorie> B <ricktimmis[m]> I can do a full install test tomorrow night, if it helps <ricktimmis[m]> Onto the bare metal that is <valorie> now is the time, sorry <valorie> by tomorrow night we'll have a shiny new release <valorie> :-) <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> whose share.kde.org account is our artwork on? <valorie> hmmm <valorie> no clue <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> the vision meeeting pdf is there, so must be Rick or Ovi? <acheronuk> ricktimmis[m]: is the share.kde.org with our artwork in yours? <IrcsomeBot> <Sick_Rimmit> I think it's @Ovidiu <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> thanks <valorie> torrents are seeding #kubuntu-council 2018-04-27 <valorie> and dinner time <ricktimmis[m]> Hi sorry @acheronuk busy day yesterday my girls dance performance's. I have a login to share.kde.org but I did not make the artwork, I think some of it was made by Andrea del sarto. Ovidiu-Florin knows more than I as he organised those logins for us. <ricktimmis[m]> I can do some graphics work, sizing optimization but I am not good enough to make Vectors like the Bionic Beaver on the current banner <ricktimmis[m]> @michealtunnel You have done such a great job on the Kubuntu video, I am so happy, thank you. I would like that featured on kubuntu.org homepages <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> it's already on our front page <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> @ricktimmis[m], at the moment, I only want to replace the old K gear logo with the fixed one <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> 4.7K views for release video so far #kubuntu-council 2018-04-28 <ricktimmis[m]> @acheronuk:matrix.org: will give you a nudge when am next on my laptop and we can take a look at what graphics you need, hopefully that'll be later today #kubuntu-council 2018-04-29 <acheronuk> Telegram bust in Europe for a while https://twitter.com/telegram/status/990474364108894209 <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk>
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