#ubuntu-news 2009-03-01 <johnc4510> hi all <tyche> Morning, boss <johnc4510> lol <kennymc0> morning slav....boss <tyche> I don't see myrtlebeachbums, so I've started in on ITP. kennymc0 is finishing up ITB. Then one or the other of us will go on to ION. * kennymc0 hopes he didnt notice me almost say slave driver <kennymc0> lol <johnc4510> i did, you're in trouble <tyche> I haven't had a chance to take a real look at the issue, but so far I know that there's at least one Glossary term that I'll have to put in. <johnc4510> :) <tyche> Fortunately, it's a copy and paste. <johnc4510> cool <tyche> And would someone PLEASE tell Dana Blankenhorn of ZDNet that he's supposed to write SUBSTANTIVE articles? <johnc4510> i want to make a final check of my feeds then i'll help with the summaries <johnc4510> lol <kennymc0> oh so you're going to add more work and then think about helping <kennymc0> lol <johnc4510> yes <tyche> "I'll get you for that, Red Baron!" <johnc4510> i might not have if not for that slave driver remark :) <tyche> Oh, great. You make ME work harder because of something kennymc0 did. <tyche> Some friend YOU are. <kennymc0> you're welcome tyche <kennymc0> :D <kennymc0> fourth summary is turning into a very long summary <johnc4510> tyche: are the dholbach's 5-a-day stats down?? <kennymc0> i think he hasnt put anything other than bugjam stats up <tyche> I don't know. Hold on <kennymc0> that's what was on there the last time i checked <johnc4510> kennymc0: right <tyche> Sure looks like that. <johnc4510> yeah, ok <johnc4510> tyche: kennymc0 what are you two working on so i don't step on you <tyche> I believe he said he was re-vamping. But I don't see anything more than what he'd done for bugjam. So I'm not sure what's happening. <johnc4510> k <tyche> I'm on ITP, currently on the 4th entry. <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> kennymc0 is on ITB i think <johnc4510> i'll hit ION <kennymc0> yeah i'm on itb <johnc4510> k <tyche> kk. That'll help <kennymc0> i'm working on the 5th article right now <tyche> First 4 ITP's are up. Working on the last 3 <tyche> Hey, myrtlebeachbums. Welcome aboard <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: i'm now starting at the top and working down <tyche> kk. I'm scanning for glossary terms <johnc4510-laptop> i'll have one more for someone after they finish up <johnc4510-laptop> link that is <tyche> Give it to myrtlebeachbums. LOL <johnc4510-laptop> k <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: just as a suggestion, not really a complaint. When you put a parenthetical expression after a link, please put a space between them. Otherwise the wiki thinks that it's part of the link. <johnc4510-laptop> not sure where i did that <tyche> I've already gotten beyond that. But it WAS a bit of a problem until I realized what had happened. LOL <johnc4510-laptop> k <tyche> It was one of the ones in ITP <johnc4510-laptop> Jeff_Martin: let me know when your out of the edit please <Jeff_Martin> johnc4510-laptop: out of the edit now <johnc4510-laptop> k <johnc4510-laptop> wiki is slow today for me <tyche> Always seems to happen when you get into it. <kennymc0> it was running fast for me and then you guys started playing with it and it started to slow down :P <tyche> It was running fast for me, too. WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE WIKI???? <johnc4510-laptop> oh, the ususal i guess <johnc4510-laptop> :) <johnc4510-laptop> i'm rebooting the desktop, could have been that. had on core maxed for some reason <johnc4510-laptop> AWN wasn't playing nice with the others <myrtlebeachbums> Are you running the ppa version of AWN? <johnc4510-laptop> yeah, i think so <johnc4510-laptop> that's better <myrtlebeachbums> grep for this in your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reacocard-awn/ubuntu/ intrepid main #Avant Window Navigator <johnc4510-laptop> k <johnc4510-laptop> thx <kennymc0> i'm ready to post the last ITB once you are out johnc4510-laptop <johnc4510-laptop> out <kennymc0> kk <kennymc0> ok i've got all the ITB articles done <johnc4510-laptop> i have one more link for you please <johnc4510-laptop> hang on <kennymc0> darn didnt run away fast enough <myrtlebeachbums> You? Another last minute link? The hell you say. * myrtlebeachbums waits for 10 more ITP's to suddenly appear. * kennymc0 waits for 20 more ITB's to appear and then 30 more ION's <myrtlebeachbums> LOL <myrtlebeachbums> johnc4510 everyone - UWN's own version of Rodney Dangerfield - no respect. <kennymc0> oh wait johnc4510-laptop was working on ION so he probably wont add any more there since that would make more work for him <kennymc0> lol <johnc4510-laptop> http://dthomasdigital.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/new-mexico-ubuntu-loco-projects-keep-moving-forward/ <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: Team of the week <johnc4510-laptop> right before updates <johnc4510-laptop> add link and summaries <johnc4510-laptop> please <johnc4510-laptop> thx <kennymc0> i feel overworked <kennymc0> lol <johnc4510-laptop> dang, johnc4510-laptop wips out his hankie <johnc4510-laptop> whips <myrtlebeachbums> Wait for the UWN around Jaunty's release. <johnc4510-laptop> right <johnc4510-laptop> the wk of or after is usually huge <kennymc0> i'm afraid of what uwn #200 is going to be like <kennymc0> expecially after seeing #100 <myrtlebeachbums> The UWN's around *.04 and *.10 are ALWAYS fun issues. <johnc4510-laptop> oooooooooh, B I G <myrtlebeachbums> kennymc0 - just be damn glad you're not doing security and updates any more. <johnc4510-laptop> i've already been pondering #200 <myrtlebeachbums> I know I was wishing that you'd started a week earlier. :) <kennymc0> i was pounding them out quick though <kennymc0> it wasnt all that bad <kennymc0> could have been worst <kennymc0> could have been better <kennymc0> tyche could have given my that script sooner <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: i think there's already a write up of that too <johnc4510-laptop> check the fridge <tyche> You mean like the time I had something like 85 updates? and that was just in ONE release. And NO script. <johnc4510-laptop> nick did one i think <johnc4510-laptop> :) <johnc4510-laptop> that should save you some time <kennymc0> so it's supposed to go in meeting summaries right? <johnc4510-laptop> no <johnc4510-laptop> i set up a section: Team of the Week <kennymc0> i'm cojnfused now <kennymc0> ah i see it now <kennymc0> sandwiched inbetween upcomming events and updates <boredandblogging> liraz sent an email about the 5-a-day stats <tyche> Yea, I don't think Dan H has completed revamping his system, yet. <boredandblogging> ok <johnc4510-laptop> boredandblogging: thx <johnc4510-laptop> Jeff_Martin: ping <Jeff_Martin> hello <johnc4510-laptop> hey <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i've got a little chore <johnc4510-laptop> :) <Jeff_Martin> chores, ok <johnc4510-laptop> just had a new event added to the google calendar <Jeff_Martin> ok <johnc4510-laptop> and a request to add it to the UWN <johnc4510-laptop> March 6, US teams meeting <johnc4510-laptop> could you add that in please <Jeff_Martin> ok <johnc4510-laptop> thx <tyche> Jeff_Martin: Now you get a taste of what it's like on a Sunday morning. Organized chaos. LOL <kennymc0> Jeff_Martin: let me know when you are out so i can put something in <Jeff_Martin> kennymc0: I am out <kennymc0> kk <Jeff_Martin> tyche: not so bad really <tyche> Well, we DO try to keep our chaos organized. :-) <tyche> Of course for KDE lovers, it's khaos. Hee hee <kennymc0> ok johnc4510-laptop your team of the week thing is up <kennymc0> see if you like what i did or if i completely butchered it <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: thx <kennymc0> np <myrtlebeachbums> Okay guys - my ITP write ups are in. What else would you like me to work on? <johnc4510-laptop> proof please <johnc4510-laptop> :) <johnc4510-laptop> thx <myrtlebeachbums> Will do! <johnc4510-laptop> thx <johnc4510-laptop> myrtlebeachbums: i'm down thru brainstorm <myrtlebeachbums> Okay. <johnc4510-laptop> start at loco news <myrtlebeachbums> Will do <johnc4510-laptop> thx <myrtlebeachbums> Wow on the first loco news story. I wish someone would do that locally so I could attend. <myrtlebeachbums> Question on the last line of the Chicago article: ....and one team member really saw the meaning of what the Ubuntu Community is all about. <myrtlebeachbums> That sounds like a lot of resources for one guy to "get it". <myrtlebeachbums> Would sound better as "and team members really saw the meaning of what the Ubuntu Community is all about." <johnc4510-laptop> good you can change that <myrtlebeachbums> I'm a whiz at creating more work for myself. ;) <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: Let me know when you're out, and I'll toss in the Glossary <myrtlebeachbums> tyche - while you're in can you modify where the links are for my ITP's? <myrtlebeachbums> I see yours have no white space between the end of the article and the link. <tyche> Then maybe MINE need to be modified. <myrtlebeachbums> Looks like the style you used is the preferred one now. It was that way in UWN 130. <myrtlebeachbums> ...but if you'd like to go through back issues and correct yourself, by all means feel free. ;) <tyche> I see them both ways. <myrtlebeachbums> We should aim for consistency though. johnc4510-laptop: do you feel strongly one way or another? <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i had the final results of gbj stats save on my box, and i posted them in place of the reg. 5-a-day <tyche> OK, I'm out. <myrtlebeachbums> I *SWEAR* we did the "Netbook Nightmare" story before. I remember writing it up, but I can't find it in any of the recent UWN's. <johnc4510-laptop> give me the link and let me look <johnc4510-laptop> please <myrtlebeachbums> http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/02/netbook-nightmare-my-experienc.html <tyche> I don't remember it. <myrtlebeachbums> I'm looking for Sylvania in all of the UWN's, and the only hit I get is from UWN123 where I did a write up on the new notebooks coming out. <johnc4510-laptop> nope, we do very little form oreilly <myrtlebeachbums> I wish I could find the article I'm talking about because I'd like to think that I'm not doing UWN ITP write ups in my dreams. <myrtlebeachbums> kennymc0 - Ubuntu runs one of every 3 Dell Netbooks sold: Who's Mr. Pinkert? If his full name is listed I'd put it in as "Joe Blow, Dell's Director of Marketing, announced..." <myrtlebeachbums> Just anal-retentive constructive criticism. :) <myrtlebeachbums> Q for everyone - it's generally accepted as OpenOffice, not Open Office, right? <johnc4510-laptop> yes <tyche> Technically, it's OpenOffice.org. They had a problem with another app that had the name Open Office, so they used the URL name. <myrtlebeachbums> Okay. I'll change it to that. <johnc4510-laptop> but if you put it in that way do this please Open``Office <johnc4510-laptop> otherwise it'll be a hot link <myrtlebeachbums> I've not missed a camel back this issue, so I'll try not to start now. ha ha <johnc4510-laptop> :) <myrtlebeachbums> johnc4510-laptop - please let me know when you're out. <johnc4510-laptop> i out now <myrtlebeachbums> Thanks <johnc4510-laptop> :) <myrtlebeachbums> Okay, all the Open Office have been changed to Open``Office.org and one other minor typo fixed. <johnc4510-laptop> thx <myrtlebeachbums> Can I assume that "Whe participate" should be "We participate" under the Columbian Team write up? <johnc4510-laptop> probably <johnc4510-laptop> go ahead and fix it <myrtlebeachbums> Done, and fixed some more stray camel backs. <johnc4510-laptop> cool <myrtlebeachbums> It's comforting to see that I'm not the only one who fat fingers it as netowrk. ;) fixing. <johnc4510-laptop> sure <myrtlebeachbums> Okay. My proofing is done. I think I got everything. <johnc4510-laptop> k thx <johnc4510-laptop> we're getting close <myrtlebeachbums> Anything else you want me to do for now? <tyche> Yep. Definitely close. You can tell because things start quieting down in here, and johnc4510-laptop stops screaming and starts talking nice. LOL <johnc4510-laptop> lol <myrtlebeachbums> lol <johnc4510-laptop> if you guys are done proofing, i can finish up <johnc4510-laptop> great job this week team <johnc4510-laptop> !! <johnc4510-laptop> i really appreciate it <myrtlebeachbums> Thanks! <johnc4510-laptop> :) <johnc4510-laptop> Jeff_Martin: welcome to the team!!!! <tyche> Well, Jeff_Martin, you've just been blooded. <Jeff_Martin> ;) <Jeff_Martin> ty, glad to help <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: just scratch, we'll blood him next week. 33ec:265c:71fe:e26d:2682:4ec2:aaa1:99ab) <myrtlebeachbums> Welcome Jeff_Martin! <myrtlebeachbums> Is he another AZ draftee? <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: yep <johnc4510-laptop> nods <johnc4510-laptop> but a volunteer, no drafting with him <Jeff_Martin> ty myrtlebeachbums <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: Isn't that what the black knight said in the Monty Python script? "Just a scratch"? <myrtlebeachbums> You guys are going to try to get me to move, aren't you? ;) <johnc4510-laptop> think so <johnc4510-laptop> nope, but you should LOL <Jeff_Martin> tyche: yeah -- " but I have cut your arm off!" <tyche> Naw. eventually we'll just take over the US, and you won't have to worry about it. <johnc4510-laptop> again, nice job today folks <johnc4510-laptop> thx <myrtlebeachbums> Glad to hear it. It's hard to scuba dive in the desert. :) <Jeff_Martin> there are lakes myrtlebeachbums <tyche> Yep. That's why we have so many boats out here. <Jeff_Martin> and you can always be ready for the flash floods with the scuba gear <myrtlebeachbums> Some day I'll make it out that direction. The airplane geek in me wants to visit Davis Monthan once before I die. <tyche> Jeff_Martin: Yea. I remember one idiot driver with a horse trailer that got caught in a flash flood. They saved the horses. <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_sailing <myrtlebeachbums> LOL Looks fun! <johnc4510-laptop> The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is available: <johnc4510-laptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue131 <kennymc0> yay <kennymc0> :) <johnc4510-laptop> having trouble with the -news mailing list though <johnc4510-laptop> or cox <johnc4510-laptop> probably cox <johnc4510-laptop> :( <johnc4510-laptop> gaaaa, 3 tries to get it sent :( <kennymc0> keep trying <kennymc0> it will go eventually <johnc4510-laptop> i got it out on the 3rd try <johnc4510-laptop> should be in your in box #ubuntu-news 2009-03-04 <boredandblogging> beuno: ping <beuno> boredandblogging, hi there <boredandblogging> beuno: pm please <MTecknology> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1836 :D #ubuntu-news 2009-03-06 <nhandler> boredandblogging: I know you added the jaunty release schedule to the gcal. Is there any chance you could do the same thing for the karmic schedule? #ubuntu-news 2009-03-07 <johnc4510> morning <tyche> Yea. THIS time, I think it is. <johnc4510> tyche: hey <johnc4510> how goes it <tyche> Well, now that I've woken up for the SECOND time this morning, not too bad. Yourself? <johnc4510> hmmm, better today, had a very bad stomach yesterday <tyche> Hmmmm! So did Paula. HMMM! Maybe I should ask her where she was, yesterday. <tyche> Hee hee <johnc4510> lol <johnc4510> or the day before <johnc4510> hee hee <tyche> Seriously, she thinks it was something she ate. <tyche> She's OK now, though. <johnc4510> yeah, i'm not sure myself what it was <johnc4510> or is <johnc4510> gad 495 feeds to work thru <johnc4510> wow, nick has a new blog interface it looks like <johnc4510> http://boredandblogging.com <tyche> That was NOT a nice thing to do to a guy so early in the morning. <tyche> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH! <tyche> That's worse than a Hawaian shirt on a fat man, early in the morning. <tyche> NET SPLIT!!! Hee hee <johnc4510> yep <johnc4510> lol <tyche> Now you see what boredandblogging's site did to the IRC world? <johnc4510> hee hee <tyche> System overload. Hee hee <johnc4510> that is new isn't it <johnc4510> the theme <johnc4510> ? <kennymc0> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!!! <kennymc0> :D <johnc4510> kennymc0: morning <kennymc0> did you see that i got that new poll that you were talking about up on the site? :) <johnc4510> yeah, i did <johnc4510> nice <johnc4510> :) <tyche> johnc4510: I believe it is. I'm sure I'd remember the shock if I'd seen it before. <tyche> Just don't show it to kennymc0. We don't want another net split. LOL <johnc4510> :) <kennymc0> i looked at the link before the netsplit <johnc4510> last time it was just plain white i think <johnc4510> ah so you caused that <kennymc0> no my computer wasnt even on when that happened #ubuntu-news 2009-03-08 <johnc4510> gooood morning all <tyche> Morning. <johnc4510> hey bud <johnc4510> i moved the Eucalytus piece from GCN to New in Jaunty <nizarus> morning johnc4510 <johnc4510> getting ready to work on new ubuntu members summaries i just got in mail <johnc4510> nizarus: hi <johnc4510> :) <nizarus> johnc4510, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2009-March/000434.html <johnc4510> what's up <johnc4510> looking <nizarus> is it sweet for UWN or the fridge ? <tyche> Oh, that's fine. <nizarus> or bothe :p <johnc4510> nizarus: yeah i saw that one this morning a little earlier. Didn't we cover that already in UWN?? or is this something different ?? <johnc4510> looked like a recap to me, but i could be wrong <nizarus> johnc4510, we just announced it on UWN with a little abstruct <nizarus> here is a more detailled report <johnc4510> k, let me take a better look at it in a bit then. thx :) <nizarus> ok johnc4510, and here what we wrote about it : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue123#Tunisian%20Team%20Events%20in%20December <johnc4510> k thx :) <johnc4510> tyche: where's everyone? <johnc4510> lol <johnc4510> sleeping in? <tyche> Maybe. I was, until about the time you said "Good morning". <johnc4510> ah <tyche> It's NICE being retired. <johnc4510> late for you <johnc4510> yep, i guess <johnc4510> hee hee <tyche> Well, I was up earlier, to give Moonlight her medication, then went back to bed <johnc4510> nods <tyche> And yes, she's doing MUCH better. <johnc4510> great <johnc4510> :) <tyche> brb <johnc4510> k <tyche> back <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> ok, new ubuntu member summaries are up now <kennymc0> cool <tyche> Launchpad news is in. <johnc4510> k thx <myrtlebeachbums> I'm working on the last ITP article and then that will be pasted in. <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: thx <johnc4510> boredandblogging: ping <johnc4510> boredandblogging: nm <tyche> ARGLE, ARGLE, ARGLE. kennymc0 is hogging the editing. Hee hee <johnc4510> yeah, i see <tyche> Well, I could always go shave while I'm waiting for him. <johnc4510> tyche: you go ahead after him, i need a small relief break anyway <tyche> bbiab <johnc4510> lol k <tyche> back <kennymc0> i'm out of edit tyche <kennymc0> was fixing the formatting on the upcoming events <tyche> Yea, and now johnc4510 is hogging the edit. LOL <kennymc0> lol <johnc4510> i'm out tyche <kennymc0> uh oh i better jump in really quick before tyche gets to it <kennymc0> lol <tyche> kennymc0: what needed doing on the upcoming events? <johnc4510> he's adding the "all day" events <kennymc0> he put each heading for the event as === event === and then under it he put the date as on level of heading below it <kennymc0> and put it on each one <johnc4510> ah <kennymc0> mr johnc4510 it says that you are still in edit <tyche> BTW, johnc4510, you are NOT out. At least according to the heading on the edit page <johnc4510> nope <tyche> kennymc0: you mean he didn't space-asterisk? he just asterisked? <johnc4510> not in <tyche> This page was opened for editing or last previewed at 2009-03-08 09:53:43 by John Crawford. <tyche> You should refrain from editing this page for at least another 5 minute(s), to avoid editing conflicts. <tyche> To leave the editor, press the Cancel button. <johnc4510> i just checked <johnc4510> not in <kennymc0> he put === Name of Meeting === then on the next like he put ==== day of the meeting ==== and then below that he had it right <johnc4510> lol <johnc4510> ah <tyche> AH. I never caught that. Sorry. <johnc4510> ok, kennymc0 you need to show him about that <kennymc0> i will <johnc4510> k <kennymc0> johnc4510: it still says you are in edit <johnc4510> i'm NOT <kennymc0> and it jsut went up to 10 min now <johnc4510> for the final time lol <tyche> Yea, yea, yea. <tyche> (Hmmm. I'm a Beatle?) <kennymc0> it went from 4 min up to 10 min so you must have done something <johnc4510> refresh you page please <johnc4510> rofl <kennymc0> still the same thing <kennymc0> 9 min now <johnc4510> ok, just go ahead then and edit <johnc4510> should be ok <kennymc0> yeah i'll just edit it and if somehting gets messed up i know who to blame :P <johnc4510> :) <kennymc0> all day events are now in with all the information that was included in the calender about them <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> and no edit conflicts? <kennymc0> which was absolutely no extra info <kennymc0> not that i saw <johnc4510> so i was out <johnc4510> lol <kennymc0> likely excuse <johnc4510> i have done this a couple of times before rofl <kennymc0> ....uh huh.........ok...........ssuuuurrrreee.......... <johnc4510> issue 146 or 148 will be my 100th <kennymc0> which is all the more reason why you would rig it so that it would look likeyou were always in so that no one else would edit so you could go in real quick to finish your work <johnc4510> :) <tyche> Yea, even after kennymc0 got out it was STILL saying johnc4510 was in. There's something fishy here. <kennymc0> yeah <johnc4510> yeah, im in <johnc4510> tyche: ok, i just saved <johnc4510> and am out <tyche> That's OK, it left mine in. <kennymc0> johnc4510: let me know when you are out <tyche> WHAT??? AGAIN??? LOL <kennymc0> yeah he's making it difficult <myrtlebeachbums> Funny, I was just going to say the same thing. <kennymc0> i guess i'll just give up and finish the next one and see if i can get in after that one <kennymc0> maybe i'll get lucky <myrtlebeachbums> Okay, after johnc4510 stops hogging things, LMK when you're out kennymc0. <myrtlebeachbums> :) <johnc4510> kennymc0: i'm out now <kennymc0> you sure? <tyche> And we're supposed to believe that? <kennymc0> i'm with tyche <kennymc0> how are we supposed to believe you <kennymc0> we have been misled before <myrtlebeachbums> If you don't quit picking on johnc4510 and post what you've got, I'm going in ahead of you. ;) <tyche> Um. kennymc0, I think you should take not of the word at the beginning of johnc4510's title: CHIEF. We're just workers. Do you REALLY want to make the boss irate? <tyche> He might cut your pay. <myrtlebeachbums> Gee, and our salaries just doubled with the shiny new titles on the contacts page too. <tyche> kennymc0: "than to havke to configure" should be "than to have to configure" <tyche> That's in "Hive Five: Best Home Server Software" <myrtlebeachbums> Helpful tip - gedit does have spell checking, but you need to turn it on manually for each thing you open. <myrtlebeachbums> When gedit gets wiki highlighting, it'll be perfect. <tyche> I wonder if that could be arrainged for VIM <myrtlebeachbums> Maybe. <kennymc0> ok i'm out <tyche> There are a lot of plugins for that, for highlighting code. <myrtlebeachbums> I used to really like joe before I started understanding vim more. Why did I like joe? Because it used the same commands that Wordstar used oh.... almost 30 years ago. <kennymc0> ugh i'm being dragged away from my computer now <kennymc0> looks like i wont be able to finsih the other one either <myrtlebeachbums> GAH! <kennymc0> having to fix stuff around the house <myrtlebeachbums> Now Liraz is in. <kennymc0> gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr <myrtlebeachbums> I'll take it. <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: let me know when your out please <johnc4510> thx <myrtlebeachbums> I'm out johnc4510 <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue132 #ubuntu-news 2009-03-09 <joey> boredandblogging, ping <joey> boredandblogging, unping will email <MTecknology> joey: hi <joey> hi MTecknology <MTecknology> joey: ya, blow me off for 20min and see what I have say to you -_- <MTecknology> :P <MTecknology> how are ya? <joey> Good thanks...just finishing my number port <MTecknology> ? <joey> ported my office number off skype and onto ooma <MTecknology> fun <MTecknology> funny <MTecknology> joey: do you know if metcalfe is around? <joey> MTecknology, no. He's in the UK. He went home hours ago <MTecknology> oh - he made a comment on a bug less than a minute ago <MTecknology> 2min* <MTecknology> he commented about 11sec before me <joey> hmm guess he's working late <joey> I only talk to him in the morning because I know it's his afternoon #ubuntu-news 2009-03-10 <MTecknology> joey: how's your day been going? #ubuntu-news 2009-03-11 <joey> boredandblogging, will you be at UDS? <Tumie> tyche: do you live in arizona ? <Tumie> or was that johnc4510 <tyche> Tumie: Both of us do. He's in the south. I'm in the South Central. <Tumie> tyche: i watched a programm called "animal cops phoenix",, it is about the arizona humaine sociaty (or something like that) <Tumie> the AHS.. <tyche> Yep. You had it right. We get some nasty stuff out here. <tyche> Like a cat that fell into cholla cactus. It ended up with spines all over it. Took the doctor hours to remove them all. The cat lived. <Tumie> do you also work for the AHS ? <tyche> No. I was an AutoCAD draftsman. I'm now retired. <Tumie> draftsman ? <tyche> Now, I sit at home and watch movies on a wide screen computer monitor. <Tumie> XD <tyche> Everything that's made has a drawing to show how it's made. That's the sort of thing I did, was make the drawings. <Tumie> ok, but i need to sleep now.. <Tumie> it is 23:21 here.. <Tumie> a bit late.. <tyche> AutoCAD is a computer program that makes it easier to create the drawings and do editing. <tyche> Night, Tumie <Tumie> i know AutoCAD :0 <Tumie> tomorrow school :| <tyche> School is GOOD! <Tumie> 9:20 AM until 5:10 PM ... and that is awfull! <tyche> (So says the teacher's son) <tyche> Been there, done that. While raising 3 kids <Tumie> normally it is 8:30 AM until 2:20 / 3:30 PM .. <Tumie> so this is a long day.. <Tumie> bye <tyche> Get your rest <Tumie> maybe i will speak you tomorrow, i will wake up at 5:30 GMT... i'm online at around 6:00 GMT.. <Tumie> so, that is still a normal time for you XD <tyche> 6:00 GMT would be 23:00 the previous day for me. <tyche> I'm 7 hours behind UTC (GMT, no daylight savings time) #ubuntu-news 2009-03-12 <Tumie> tyche: are you still here ? :) <sayakb> boredandblogging: 'ello! <boredandblogging> sayakb: ok, I think the easiest way to do this if you have something in mind that you want to post <boredandblogging> then I can show you how to do it <sayakb> maybe there is.. <sayakb> ubuntu India today started its new forums <sayakb> http://forum.ubuntu-in.info/ <sayakb> so, would that fit in? <boredandblogging> first, I would suggest adding it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList <boredandblogging> is there an existing india forum? <sayakb> this is the official forum <sayakb> the previous one was unfortunately negotiated and 'crashed' <joey> boredandblogging, I forgot to ask you... what Languages besides English do you speak? * joey is the curious sort. <boredandblogging> just out of curiosity, why not use the ubuntu-in domain? <boredandblogging> joey: unfortunately, I'm too much of an idiot, so no :-) <joey> lol <sayakb> boredandblogging: ubuntu-in.info and ubuntu-in.org are both ubuntu-India's registered domains <sayakb> forum link updated <boredandblogging> sayakb: cool, i think it be informative to include more than just the forum link <boredandblogging> something about the Indian loco <boredandblogging> maybe a little history? <boredandblogging> how big it is <boredandblogging> plans for the future, etc, etc <boredandblogging> could be nice exposure for the LoCo <sayakb> I'd have to consult the loco admins in that case :) <sayakb> yes, would surely be <boredandblogging> sayakb: excellent, come up with something, then I'll walk you through posting it <sayakb> super! I'll do someting shortly (tomorrow) and would show the abstract <boredandblogging> sayakb: sounds good <joey> I think I remember svaksha saying there was a lot of controversy in the Indian LoCo... but I could be mistaken <boredandblogging> svaksha: ping <sayakb> I'm not much of a LoCo creature, so I am the least informed one :) <joey> wow, svaksha even put her REAL picture up on LP. Impressive. <sayakb> ..and from my other area of Ubuntu work, I cant reproduce anything that can be considered as news except for this 40 page error log on watchdog.. :-/ <Tumie> at 22:00 - 23:00 PM GMT, i'm watching Animal Cops Phoenix :p #ubuntu-news 2009-03-14 <cody-somerville> Is pycon appropriate for the Ubuntu Fridge Calendar? <cody-somerville> I'm thinking of deleting the event. <cody-somerville> also, I can't edit the calendar page <cody-somerville> mdke, joey, boredandblogging ^^ <mdke> I guess it doesn't hurt to have it there <mdke> python has a special place in Ubuntu's heart, i guess <cody-somerville> Where do we draw the line though? <cody-somerville> mdke, It isn't a Ubuntu event <mdke> I know. I don't think we need to worry too much about drawing the line, broadly the calendar should hav events that the ubuntu community could be interested i <mdke> so we can be over-inclusive rather than under-inclusive, IMO * johnc4510 greets all #ubuntu-news 2009-03-15 <Tumie> tyche: i'm accepted as member of the dutch documentation team :D <Tumie> tyche: i'm now official a part of the dutch Ubuntu loco team <tyche> Congratulations. I saw that you were also part of the documentation team. Congratulations on both. <Tumie> tyche: i'm part of the documentation team, and the dutch version of the fridge.. (called Â¨Het Prikbord" .. "The Clipboard" ) <tyche> That's great, Tumie. You're moving right along, there. <johnc4510> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #133 is out: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue133 <cody-somerville> w00t <johnc4510> :) #ubuntu-news 2009-03-16 <johnc4510> nixternal: i just sent you Arizona's info for the LoCo Directory <beuno> boredandblogging, hi <boredandblogging> beuno: hello #ubuntu-news 2009-03-17 <sayakb> boredandblogging: hi #ubuntu-news 2009-03-18 <boredandblogging> sayakb: hello <sayakb> boredandblogging: hello! <sayakb> (finally :D) <boredandblogging> we keep missing each other <sayakb> timezone :) <sayakb> boredandblogging: so how do we start? : <boredandblogging> sayakb: one second <boredandblogging> ok, you should now be part of the LP ubuntu-fridge team <boredandblogging> go to fridge.ubuntu.com <boredandblogging> on the left sidebar <sayakb> logging in via openID <boredandblogging> there should be a login page <boredandblogging> yes <sayakb> in <boredandblogging> after logging in, should return you back to the frontpage <sayakb> yes, back <boredandblogging> near the top, there should be a contribute link <boredandblogging> contribute -> story <sayakb> that is some good drupal customization there.. <sayakb> so I now have a submit story" page <boredandblogging> you only need to fill out title, select a topic, fill out the body <boredandblogging> at the bottom <boredandblogging> do you see "Publishing options" ? <sayakb> checked published :) <boredandblogging> no <sayakb> ah <boredandblogging> oops <boredandblogging> yeah, its fine <boredandblogging> make sure it looks fine <boredandblogging> you don't see a promoted to front page checkbox under publishing options? <sayakb> I do <sayakb> should that be checked? <boredandblogging> yes, only after you have made absolutely sure everything is exactly the way you want it <boredandblogging> after previewing, then submit <sayakb> I just hit preiew with none of the publishing options checked.. <boredandblogging> thats fine <sayakb> ..just to make sure that the html tags dont misbehave :) <boredandblogging> that way we can login and just see it <sayakb> right <boredandblogging> for topics <sayakb> LoCo teams should be it I guess? <boredandblogging> sayakb: yes <sayakb> okay <boredandblogging> and if you wanted it cross-posted on the planet <boredandblogging> there is a PlanetUbuntu topic <sayakb> yes, I see it <sayakb> I think it is pretty much good to go. Should I publish the post? <sayakb> (and can you take a quick look that I did it right? :) ) <boredandblogging> yeah, go ahead <sayakb> what is the "create new revision" do? something like the moin page revision? <sayakb> s/is/does <boredandblogging> probably, never tried it though <sayakb> boredandblogging: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1840 <sayakb> ok <boredandblogging> looks good <boredandblogging> I would suggest one change <sayakb> sweet! :) <sayakb> sure <boredandblogging> capitalize the first letters in the title <sayakb> done <boredandblogging> excellent! <sayakb> so that would be the way to go for a new post. How many submissions from non members of the team do we have? <sayakb> and what all are the policies that are followed before the post is approved? <boredandblogging> there are some of us who find relevant information and post it outselves <boredandblogging> s/outselves/ourselves <boredandblogging> getting submissions is something we need to work <sayakb> sounds good. would be looking forward to that <boredandblogging> for policies, let people in here know what you want to post <boredandblogging> if someone says its ok, then go for it :-) <sayakb> sounds like a plan :) <sayakb> boredandblogging: thank you for setting up the membership and helping with the post. <boredandblogging> no problem, hope you post often! <sayakb> as you already know, I have this timezone issue. I'll find you/other news team members by mail in most cases <sayakb> I am on IRC for about 8 hours a day, but that would be the time the other side of the world sleeps :) <boredandblogging> sayakb: feel free to post on the ubuntu-news-team list as well <sayakb> yes, will definitely do that before adding a new story <boredandblogging> cool <boredandblogging> joey: ping <joey> hi nick <boredandblogging> joey: hey, got a sec? <joey> boredandblogging, on an off yes. I'm actually on the phone with cody :-) What's up? I saw the double post that sakya did <boredandblogging> joey: double post? missed that <joey> he made an edit and pushed to the front page twice <boredandblogging> ahhh <joey> which caused a double entry in rss <boredandblogging> bah <joey> yeah newbie error <boredandblogging> :-) #ubuntu-news 2009-03-20 <sayakb> Will a story like "KDE launches KDE-Brainstorm at KDE forums" fit in at the fridge? <Tumie> http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/2009/03/natalee_holloway_body_found_aruba.php #ubuntu-news 2009-03-22 <HammerHead66> hello everyone <boredandblogging> HammerHead66: hello <HammerHead66> what are you up to bored <HammerHead66> any good news on the net? <HammerHead66> http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/video/ check out Body builder it's great <HammerHead66> "Body Builder" Viedo sorry <johnc4510> HammerHead66: evening <johnc4510> boredandblogging: hi bud <HammerHead66> hello <johnc4510> :) <johnc4510> boredandblogging: any write up of the GA meetup yet? <johnc4510> lol <HammerHead66> john are u watching it? <johnc4510> HammerHead66: ? <johnc4510> are you streaming it? <HammerHead66> no it's on wired <johnc4510> link? <HammerHead66> when you click the link a video will pop up to play but right below that there is a video called Body Builder click and watch it <HammerHead66> they are making body parts <boredandblogging> johnc4510: hey <boredandblogging> johnc4510: prolly will just stick it in the Team Reports later on <HammerHead66> they are even making them with an HP printer <HammerHead66> lol <johnc4510> boredandblogging: k <johnc4510> HammerHead66: lol <HammerHead66> you like it? <johnc4510> nods <HammerHead66> next level stuff for doctors <HammerHead66> anyone seen the car that gets 100 mpg? <johnc4510> morning <Tumie> morning ? :| <Tumie> :p <johnc4510> :) <Tumie> johnc4510: in the dutch loco team we are talking about our idea, to start a dutch Ubuntu Shop.. is this possible, or is this just illegal ? <johnc4510> are you talking about Ubuntu branded merchandize, or a shop for the dutch that has like your dutch loco logo on it? <Tumie> Ubuntu branded merchandize.. <Tumie> like t-shirts, mugs, usb-sticks, etc. <johnc4510> you'll have to get that ok'd. they prefer you go thru the regular Ubuntu shop for it. <Tumie> yes, but it is an expensive shop, we can better start our own here, so people will buy faster, and that is better for bug #1 <johnc4510> i understand, i'm just relaying policy about the way canonical handles this. <Tumie> so, we need permission from canonical ? <johnc4510> yes <Tumie> ok, i will say it to the rest of the team :) <johnc4510> we wanted the same thing in the USA, but they denied us. <Tumie> but their is an USA shop.. <johnc4510> they were nice enough to then start the USA shop <johnc4510> it's canonical's USA shop <johnc4510> not ours <Tumie> and, if we put our dutch loco logo on it, is that possible ? <johnc4510> if it's your dutch logo only, yeah. we have a shop for the Arizona team with it's logo on it. <Tumie> can i have a look on it ? <johnc4510> hang on <johnc4510> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntu_arizona/ <Tumie> nice <Tumie> but, you use the ubuntu logo for marketing, isn't that illegal ? <johnc4510> thanks <johnc4510> no, our logo was approved <Tumie> how to approve that ? <johnc4510> through canonical <Tumie> ok <Tumie> ty for all the information, i said it to the dutch team, so they won't start an illegal shop :p <johnc4510> ok <tyche> LoCo News is up. Starting "New in Jaunty Jackalope" <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> meeting summaries, rgreening interview, and ubuntu podcast #22 are up too. <johnc4510> tyche: is jeff doing the upcoming meetings section this wk.? <tyche> As far as I know. I haven't heard anything different. <johnc4510> starting on the last "Planet" summary <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> thx <tyche> New in Jaunty is up <johnc4510> k thx <johnc4510> :) <tyche> What else do you want me to cover? <johnc4510> the other two planet summaries would be great tyche <johnc4510> thx <tyche> kk <johnc4510> i'm going to start at the top and work down for revisions <kennymc0> first itb summary is up <johnc4510> k <johnc4510> thx kennymc0 <johnc4510> hard to believe, there was no new launchpad blog news this wk <johnc4510> that hardly ever happens <johnc4510> ok, folks we're getting close <johnc4510> proofing still needed <johnc4510> :) <johnc4510> great job UWN team! <sayakb> johnc4510: did you read the brainstorm top 5 idea? <tyche> sayakb: I think johnc4510 is laying down. He had a bad night, last night. <sayakb> tyche: aah <sayakb> tyche: what do you think about that mail? <tyche> I saw your suggestion, and I don't think it's bad. But Brainstorm may have to revise their page for us to be able to do it. <sayakb> it wasnt my suggestion ;) <tyche> As it stands, I don't see a link to the suggestions. <sayakb> I am just a brainstorm creature who got excited after seeing UB stuff on the ML :D <tyche> Ah. Yes, you're right. That's what happens when one glosses over where an email is from <sayakb> I thought if the team likes, I'll post the brainstorm news.. <tyche> Well, I'm looking at the Brainstorm site right now, and I'd have to admit that I have NO idea where the UWN crew is getting the information. This was added AFTER I was doing that part of the UWN. <sayakb> I can help with the top 5 links from brainstorm.. but the question is, where does it go? <sayakb> UWN, or a separate post? <tyche> Well, I can give you a tentative answer, but I'm only an editor, not the Chief Editor (which would be johnc4510 <sayakb> ah.. I too just joined the editor's team, so I'd slowly get to know who's who :) <tyche> If you wanted to add it to the UWN on, like, saturday night or sunday morning (that's AZ time, or UTC -7) that would be fine. Of course, add your name at the bottom of the UWN to show that you're a contributor. <sayakb> sounds good <tyche> Gee! Then we'd have TWO people that aren't members of the AZ LoCo involved in the UWN. LOL <sayakb> :D <sayakb> where do the UWN drafts go before being released? <tyche> In the UWN page for the next week. You can tell, because it'll say "WORK IN PROGRESS" right under the graphic. <tyche> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue134 for an example. <sayakb> tyche: ta.. looking at it <tyche> And when Sunday morning rolls around, it's like a feeding frenzy watching all of us dive in and out, working on it. <tyche> Bring your sense of humor. We get a little crazy. <sayakb> heh <tyche> You're apt to see bad puns and what appears to be people tearing eachother down in the IRC channel. But it's all "no harm, no foul" type kidding around. <sayakb> that sounds pretty cool! <tyche> Oh, it's wild. But we get a lot of serious work done in the process. And tensions that COULD accumulate are bled off pretty easily that way. <sayakb> sunday mornings here at my university is usually a criket match with beer cans :) <tyche> Seriously, I like the idea. And if you're serious about implementing it talk to or email johnc4510 about it. You can add that I think it's a good idea. <sayakb> s/are <sayakb> sounds like a plan <tyche> I think he'll agree that it's good, and tell you to go ahead. <tyche> Isabelle Duchatelle does much the same sort of thing for the Forums news. <sayakb> super! I definitely need something consistent to write about ;) <tyche> Well, the UWN has been growing ever since I got involved. Nick did a lot toward that, and johnc4510 is continuing the tradition. <sayakb> yes, ofcourse. I see his posts now and then on puc <tyche> Besides, we like to see new people and get better information. We already know that the UWN is WIDELY read, including by sabdfl <tyche> We've even gotten emails from "the boss" expressing his appreciation. <tyche> :-D <sayakb> whao! thats awesome :D <sayakb> plus, more than 2 years of publishing definitely has good outcomes :) <tyche> Yep. We may be amateurs, but we try to put out a professional product. EVERYBODY gets involved with proofing it. And about 90% of us are trained to be able to pick up if somebody is out for a week or forever. We've just gotten an influx of people, which actually makes things easier. <tyche> And, though it doesn't mean anything to you and your status, we've managed to "fast track" at least 3 people into Ubuntu membership because of the UWN. Me included. <sayakb> that's nice! UWN definitely involves a lot of tiresome yet equally enjoyable job that would clearly entitle an individual for membership <sayakb> it's not just writing, but also knowing the community, and that's really amazing <tyche> Yep. The sort of thing that isn't glamorous, but it serves an important function. And it CAN be tedious. That's why we let off steam by kidding with eachother. It defuses the tension of hitting a deadline. <tyche> Plus, the AZ LoCo is a bit crazy anyway (read "loco", hee hee). And with the number of members we've got involved in it, now, it's just second nature to cut up a bit. <sayakb> tyche: OT: fridge/uwn doesnt acomodate any non ubuntu news I guess? <sayakb> say, KDE news? <sayakb> like I often drop in KDE forum stuff on the planet.. <sayakb> but should I be sticking strictly to *buntu articles for the fridge? <tyche> As far as I'm concerned, Ubuntu is an umbrella term as well as being a specific distribution. In other words, Kubuntu and Xubuntu are as much a part of Ubuntu as anything. If it involves one of the distributions that we deal with then it should be included. <sayakb> it doesn't actually <tyche> HOWEVER, if it's something specific to KDE or XFCE, then it wouldn't. <sayakb> I have a news ready, but I am not sure whether it should fit or not <tyche> We do have to draw the line somewhere, but that line is a bit fuzzy. <sayakb> ah.. clearer.. <sayakb> agree <tyche> johnc4510 or nick would be the best people to vet something that you weren't sure about. <tyche> I'm still learning the business. <sayakb> okay! <tyche> Heck, I still ask johnc4510 about whether or not to include a link in the UWN. <sayakb> :D <tyche> Sometimes he says yes. Sometimes he says no. Either way, I'm not put out by it, because the end result is to put out a good product. <tyche> BTW, sayakb. To introduce myself, see https://launchpad.net/~tyche <johnc4510> The New edition of the UWN #134 is now available: <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue134 #ubuntu-news 2009-03-23 <sayakb> johnc4510: hello <tyche_> Yep. It would mean keeping an .xcf file, making the change there, then flattening the image and saving as jpg. <tyche_> In .xcf format, the text can be changed simply by double clicking on it. But it's still a process. <sayakb> (if you save as jpg, you wont need to flatten the image) <sayakb> should do it automatically.. same applies for PNG and other raster formats <tyche_> Yep. But flattened, the text becomes part of the image. That's why one uses layers and xcf. <sayakb> ofcourse <tyche_> I've been doing this sort of stuff for years. Worse, I've been doing it in AutoCAD, then switching off and on layers depending on what I needed. <kennymc0> ah bragging now i see <tyche_> It's really a trip when you 3D the ground around a factory, then use layers to show the original and the developed versions of the plot plan. Even more so when you develop 3 or 4 different solutions for the developed plot plan. About 30 meg worth of drawing file. <kennymc0> bet they apprieciated that <kennymc0> tyche_: you seem to be beside yourself <tyche_> I used to drive the boss crazy with the fact that I could just switch a couple of layers and show him a topological map of what the changes would look like. <kennymc0> hee hee <sayakb> :D <tyche_> That particular boss was in charge of the plants and grounds, so I ended up doing the same sort of thing for the batch plant (where the concrete was mixed and poured from) <kennymc0> it seems like you enjoyed the work you did with that job <tyche_> He could look at it from any angle, I could switch off the skin, so he could see the inside of the tower, including the mixer, fans, etc. <tyche_> Yep. I did. It was a challenge, and definitely stretched my abilities. <kennymc0> that's always a good thing <tyche_> Saved his butt a few times, too, when he'd come up with an idea and I could show him, in 3D, why it wouldn't work. <kennymc0> and it's always fun to annoy a boss by doing something better than he/she can <kennymc0> hee hee <kennymc0> i bet he apprieciated that <kennymc0> :) <tyche_> It got to the point where he'd actually start asking my opinion about how to make things work. <tyche_> And THAT was good. <kennymc0> usually that's a possition that would get you better pay but i bet you got paid the same <tyche_> When I left that job I was $1 over the national "BASE" pay for that position. I got a $5 raise just coming out to Arizona <kennymc0> well that must have been nice <tyche_> And that was as a temp. I got another $1 raise when I went permanent. <kennymc0> yeah i've tried a couple of temp agencies and one flat out told me not to come in because they had no possitions for me and didnt expect to get any soon #ubuntu-news 2009-03-24 <james_w> http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/03/24/ubuntu-members-get-free-lwn-subs/ <Tumie> is their somebody from the UK here ? #ubuntu-news 2009-03-25 <mdke> Any malicious and/or unauthorized activity is strictly forbidden. <mdke> whoops, apologies <sayakb> johnc4510: ping <nizarus> any news about jaunty countdown ? #ubuntu-news 2009-03-26 <boredandblogging> MTecknology: why is the linkedin thing on the fridge? <boredandblogging> not really appropriate <boredandblogging> it reads more like a blog post than anything else <boredandblogging> I'm pulling it <boredandblogging> MTecknology: think you might want to ask us before posting <Tumie> when Jaunty Beta comes ? <james_w> in a few hours if all goes well <Tumie> ok :) <Tumie> james_w: are you a developer ? <james_w> I'm a MOTU, yeah <Tumie> nice <Tumie> i'm just a part of the dutch documentation team, (for 2 weeks now :p ) <Tumie> james_w: can you ping me when it is released ? <james_w> I'll probably be gone by then sorry <Tumie> ok <james_w> ETA is about 4 hours I believe <james_w> but that could easily change <MTecknology> boredandblogging: sorry, I'd pull it if you didn't already. <Tumie> ok, does it show up on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ ? <MTecknology> boredandblogging: If it was written more like an article and less like a blog would it be good for the fridge? - Not that I'll put it back at all <james_w> Tumie: I think so <MTecknology> boredandblogging: oh - the reason I put it on the Fridge is because I considered it advocacy <Tumie> james_w: is ext4 safe to use ? <Tumie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ , he's empty ! <james_w> Tumie: I wouldn't use ext4 if you don't have good backups <Tumie> ok, so it still isn't safe? <james_w> well, no file system is safe <james_w> but it is still quite new, so there would be a higher chance of problems <james_w> plus some changes in behaviour that it has are causing some issues that you may have heard about <Tumie> i heard that some files are stored in the RAM for a long time, before placed on the harddisk <james_w> yeah, that's the gist of it <james_w> most filesystems do that, but the cases where it happens on ext4 are a bit different <Tumie> and does the beta comes in 10 minutes, or can i go for a good night sleep ? #ubuntu-news 2009-03-27 <sayakb> tyche: 'ola! <joey> boredandblogging, conf is up <joey> boredandblogging, 2nd call <joey> boredandblogging, ok, we're moving on without you <boredandblogging> joey: sorry <boredandblogging> work meeting <boredandblogging> crap <boredandblogging> are you guys still talking? <joey> boredandblogging, just finishing up. I'll catch you up. what's your number. <joey> boredandblogging, I think we have a news article! <joey> boredandblogging, see your inbox :-D <joey> boredandblogging, if you are in there, I think we can unsticky the gcal notice from the top post, dontcha think? <boredandblogging> joey: let me unstick it <boredandblogging> posted the fridge theme thing and put it on the planet <joey> schweet <joey> I should probably do the same #ubuntu-news 2009-03-28 <MTecknology> joey: hey, got a minute? <sayakb> tyche: any proceedings on the weekly brainstorm digest? <Tumie> i think he's sleeping <Tumie> at least, i hope for him that he's sleeping XD <sayakb> hah :D <Tumie> it is 3:05 AM their, i think.. <sayakb> 16:36 here.. othere side of the world :) <Tumie> it is 12:35 here,, so i just taked my lunch :p <Tumie> james_w: are the ext4 problems solved ? <james_w> Tumie: sort of. It's quite hard to fix as thousands of programs may require change <james_w> ext4 has workarounds that should make the general case safe now though <Tumie> so, ext4 is safe to use? <james_w> but there would still be stability concerns that should mean you should have good backups <james_w> I would say "safe to test" right now <james_w> but yes <Tumie> ok :) <Tumie>
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