#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-02
* robertj tinkers with authtool bzr in vmware
<robertj> ajmitch: is authtool still on track for feisty?
<ajmitch> 'on track'?
<ajmitch> it's not going into main, if that's what you mean
<robertj> feature-complete
<ajmitch> not necessarily
<ajmitch> it should work, but there are things I want to add & improve
<robertj> do you have krb + winbind working on your local tree or is that still forthcoming?
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-08
<chaks> hi ajmitch
<chaks> hi ajmitch
<Burgundavia> hey chaks
<ajmitch> hello chaks
<ajmitch> morning Burgundavia
<Burgundavia> morning ajmitch
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-09
<chaks> hi Burgundavia, ajmitch
<chaks> sorry was away :)
<chaks> now back
<chaks> me from Dunedin ajmitch
<ajmitch> so you're at otago uni?
<chaks> yep
<ajmitch> yeah, I saw the discussion in -motu earlier
<chaks> and my project is on Linux Server Management (LDAP Domains)
<ajmitch> interesting
<ajmitch> info science?
<chaks> so want to start that as a contribution to ubuntu
<chaks> no, comp science
<ajmitch> ah fun
<Burgundavia> chaks: got a linky?
<chaks> nope, i havent posted anywhere :)
<ajmitch> who are you working under?
<chaks> Dr.Zhiyi, you know him?
<ajmitch> yeah, I know him quite well
<chaks> hey, where are you from? same dept??
<chaks> :)
<ajmitch> I was doing computer science
<chaks> oh, kewl
<ajmitch> you haven't happened to do tele301 or 402 in the last couple of years, have you? :)
<chaks> where are you in dunedin?
<ajmitch> heriot row
<chaks> well me doing my Masters by Research
<chaks> but i took a lecture for Tele301 :)
<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> ok
<ajmitch> so what are you planning for your project?
<chaks> its called Linux Domain Management Server which would take care of ,
<chaks> 1) Asset Management (h/w & s/w & Users & groups)
<chaks> 2) Software Distribution
<chaks> 3) Reporting
<chaks> and yes, the application shold be made easier to write still more plugins as features
<ajmitch> ok, and how do you propose to go about it?
<ajmitch> using LDAP with some custom schemas?
<chaks> LDAP would be there as for the Domain Concept
<chaks> and would extract info from them and have a small db to manipulate them
<chaks> i can pass on the presentation to you now, if u r free to see them
<ajmitch> sure
<chaks> which wold make u clear a bit
<ajmitch> where are you at the moment?
<chaks> Me at my room
<chaks> Arana Hall (hope you know :D)
<ajmitch> yep, I know it
* ajmitch was at st margarets college in 1st year
<chaks> oh, thats the next building! :D
<ajmitch> dcc won't work
<ajmitch> send to williamsmith@example.net
<chaks> oh
<chaks> ok
<ajmitch> what's the timeframe for this project? something to get finished by the end of the year?
* ajmitch guesses feature freeze for feisty+1 will come around early august/late july
<chaks> yes, its one year
<chaks> and it needs lots of work :(
<Burgundavia> well, release early, release often
<chaks> but as a team, we could implement it :)
<Burgundavia> get a website setup and get something into my hands
<chaks> sure :)
<Burgundavia> I have a small live setup I can play with
<chaks> kewl
<ajmitch> sure, I think Zhiyi would be ok with it being done with non-uni people
<ajmitch> you'd have to talk to him about it though
<chaks> ajmitch, email sent
<ajmitch> thanks
<chaks> Zhiyi is pretty ok with it
<chaks> and he wants me to do this
<ajmitch> ok
<chaks> atleast the prototype, becoz he thinks its good
<chaks> and i told him that i am gonna start collaborating with ubuntu team
* ajmitch is flatting with someone who teaches in tele 
<ajmitch> you may have met cameron kerr
<ajmitch> to work on stuff in ubuntu, there needs to be specifications written & agreed on
* chaks doesnt teach tele301 , just one lecture
<chaks> i havent met yet
<chaks> yea, i saw in the website
<ajmitch> ok
<chaks> have a look at my presentation and woud love to get ur views
<ajmitch> just waiting for the email to arrive
<chaks> oh
<ajmitch> ok, got it
<chaks> :)
<ajmitch> from the first few pages, it looks ambitious for a 1 year project
<chaks> :)
* ajmitch wonders how much of the client agent could be borrowed from code that's already written
<ajmitch> eg authtool, which I wrote for configuring network authentication on the client, and is quite modular
<ajmitch> I've also been packaging stuff like fedora directory server for ubuntu
<chaks> oh...fds!...it was crap for me...and i was nt able to make clients authenticated against fds :(
<chaks> seeked their help, irc, none helped
<chaks> and later i switched to openLDAP
<chaks> and in one hour i had my setup
<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> that's why I'm trying to make it easy to use :)
<chaks> authtool can be used for authentications and not sure what other features authtool has ;)
<ajmitch> plus I like a mix of LDAP & Kerberos, though using pam-ldap over SSL/TLS isn't so bad
<ajmitch> since I wrote authtool, I know it can be extended easily :)
<chaks> i haven gone to the Security stuffs like SSL/TLS yet :)
<chaks> *havent
* ajmitch has it on the laptop
<chaks> ajmitch, me going to department now
<ajmitch> ok
<chaks> want to throw away fedora setup
<ajmitch> heh
<chaks> and bring in ubuntu openldap up :D
<ajmitch> yeah, all the workstations there using fedora..
<chaks> i told zhiyi i cant ;d
<chaks> for my project :D
<ajmitch> you can't?
<chaks> i told him, i am gonna use ubuntu in my assigned machines
<ajmitch> he'd probably have no problem with that
<chaks> he was ok with it
<chaks> yea
<Burgundavia> chaks: i threw away a fedora setup for ubuntu
<Burgundavia> it was glorious
<chaks> thats the spirit Burgundavia ;) (lol)
* Fujitsu defects to Fedora.
<chaks> ok, me leaving, will be online soon
<chaks> see you soon
<ajmitch> chaks: ok
<chaks> send ur views though :)
* ajmitch should wander down to university sometime
<ajmitch> since I'm only 10 minutes away :)
* chaks welcomes ajmitch
* ajmitch is meeting parents at lunchtime, so I don't know if I'll have time right now to get to university
<chaks> kewl
<chaks> my number is 0212656464
<chaks> feel free to ring up if you are nearby :)
<chaks> we could also discuss regarding prject :D
<ajmitch> alright
<ajmitch> maybe this afternoon then
<chaks> sure :)
<chaks> bye for now
* ajmitch will send you a text message if that's the case
<ajmitch> bye
<ajmitch> nice small world, isn't it?
<chaks> hi ajmitch
<chaks> the upgrade was successful, so far no problems
<ajmitch> excellent :)
<robertj> ajmitch: is another commit of authtool coming soon? do you anticipate it will get AD setup before feisty?
<robertj> can someone please go over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSambaIntegrationSpec and give me your first impression?
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-10
<chaks> hi ajmitch
<ajmitch> evening
<chaks> i have got the gile ajmithc, may be you could have a look now?
<ajmitch> sure
<chaks> *file
<chaks> and i think we could choose ldap instead of database
<chaks> by writing our schemas
<chaks> i was able to get the pdf of that copy
<chaks> no we could change some of the things
<chaks> *now
<chaks> sent
<chaks> ajmitch, did u get it?
<chaks> sleepy ?
<ajmitch> yes, I got it
<chaks> is it worth ? , your suggestions to change
* ajmitch only had a brief look so far
<ajmitch> looks useful, descriptions are a bit brief
<chaks> oh
<chaks> so you want me to explain more, tomorrow i am goingto modify to hold custom ldap schemas
<chaks> and whats the format that ubuntu expects?
<chaks> any link on that?
<ajmitch> see SpecTemplate on the wiki
<chaks> ok
<chaks> helping few in forums :)
<chaks> by answering their queries
<ajmitch> yeah I saw
<chaks> u showed me the list of available wireless network in my room that day
<chaks> remember?
<chaks> i dont get that in my ubuntu ajmitch
<chaks> wat package is that?
<ajmitch> network-manager
<chaks> its already installed
<chaks> but i could not see the wireless networks around...need to check
<ajmitch> check that the wireless is on :)
* ajmitch has a wifi kill switch on the front of the case
<ajmitch> very annoying to accidentally bump it
<chaks> the "Enable Wireless" in the Network Manager Applet is ticked
<ajmitch> yeah, but the interface may not really be active
<ajmitch> what does ifconfig say about it?
<chaks> i dont have ipaddress for wireless
<chaks> but eth1 is there
<chaks> eth0 and eth1
<chaks> in ifconfig
<chaks> and in network-admin, my wirelss is "Enable Roaming mode" ticked
<chaks> if i untick that,its asking for configuration options
* ajmitch shrugs
<ajmitch> hard to debug that stuff remotely :)
<chaks> :)
<chaks> no probs
<chaks> let us debug in person sometime when we meet :)
<ajmitch> yeah
* ajmitch should sleep
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#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-11
<chaks> hi ajmitch
<chaks> do you want me to explain in detail for the spec? or just specify the modules?
<chaks> ajmitch,, mail sent
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-12
<chaks> hi ajmithc
<chaks> just wondering, i havent even received any mails yet from ubuntu-devel-discuss
<chaks> is that only me or?
<ajmitch> morning
<chaks> i mean, not regarding my mail, but other mails
<chaks> i checkd my subscription
<ajmitch> I don't think there have been any since
<chaks> oh
<chaks> ok :)
<ajmitch> everyone's probably a little busy :)
<chaks> i thought there might be some subscription problem
<chaks> :D
<ajmitch> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.discuss/
<ajmitch> nope
<chaks> yea, i checked
<ajmitch> your mail is the last to show up
<chaks> yep
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-16
<robertj> ajmitch: I told you a lie, the new blessed way to specify OU when joining the domain is net ads join createcomputer=SubOU
<robertj> http://en.pastebin.ca/443477 makes it fairly happyish
<ajmitch> ah, you've got the latest branch, good
<ajmitch> thanks for that
<robertj> now it stops at mismatched workgroup
<robertj> is it kosher to put that in params since it really doesn't go in smb.conf?
<ajmitch> problem is that there should be a flag for AD/non-AD, and sticking values into the smb.conf & pam based on that
<robertj> non AD smb you mean or non AD winbind?
<ajmitch> non-ad winbind
<ajmitch> which probably won't often be used
* robertj goes to pick up wife & go home
<robertj> bbl
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-18
<robertj> hrmm getting Failed to set servicePrincipalNames. Please ensure that the DNS domain of this server matches the AD domain, Or rejoin with using Domain Admin credentials on net ads join on Fesity but Edgy works fine
<robertj> hrmm it appears that the FQDN must be present in /etc/hosts
<robertj> ajmitch: is there any sane way to get a rlookup & get it in there automagically?
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-22
<kgoetz> does this team have a wiki page or something? the Lp page isnt very... verbose
<Burgundavia> not really
<Burgundavia> why do you ask?
<kgoetz> i was wondering what the teams purpose is - is it help or working on directory services for ubuntu?
<kgoetz> i may need to deploy a few systesm authing against an ldap databse (or an arangement like that), i was wodering if this was a place to look
<Burgundavia> we are both help and dev
<Burgundavia> most of us have deployed ldap systems and some of us are working on making it easier
<Burgundavia> ajmitch has an almost complete auth tool that will allow easy ldap auth
<ajmitch> apparantly in production use even
<kgoetz> hm. neat.
<ajmitch> plus there's various server stuff
<kgoetz> ok
<kgoetz> not really much further on, apart from knowing ajmitch is the person to wath ;0
<ajmitch> :P
<kgoetz> *watch
<kgoetz> :p
<ajmitch> why me, I'm just another spare time hacker
<Burgundavia> kgoetz: the guide on the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication has been well tested
<kgoetz> Burgundavia: thanks for that.
<kgoetz> ajmitch: you got named :P
<ajmitch> lucky me
<kgoetz> ah, and it links to the server setup page. nice
<kgoetz> i'im sure i'll have a chance to try it out some time. thanks again
<Burgundavia> that I need to rewrite at some point
* ajmitch needs to do some work on this stuff at some point
<Burgundavia> the authtool doing completely cached stuff will rock
<ajmitch> yeah, it should do that
<Burgundavia> colour me wrong, but doesn't default openldap pass auth data unencrypted?
<ajmitch> connect with ssl
<Burgundavia> right
<Burgundavia> which I would need to configure?
<Burgundavia> can we make fds only allow ssl connections?
<ajmitch> it could be possible
<Burgundavia> from the security perspective, if authtool does ssl by default and fds only allows it, we have a win
<ajmitch> yep
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-25
<Burgwork> ajmitch: is there anything needed for our specs?
<ajmitch> Burgwork: probably lots
<Burgwork> ok. let me look tonight
<ajmitch> thanks
<Burgwork> https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-mass-deployment-management
<ajmitch> edubuntu meeting is on right now
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-26
<ajmitch> funny
<ajmitch> https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5141
<ajmitch> this person even tried authtool
<ajmitch> I wonder how many others have looked at it in feisty
#ubuntu-directory 2007-04-27
<robertj_> ajmitch: you handy? I've got a spec I'd like you to take a peek at
<Burgwork> robertj_: I can look at it, if you want
<robertj_> Burgwork: ok, oen sec
<robertj_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSambaIntegrationSpec
<ajmitch> yes I've seen it
* ajmitch isn't really here right now though :)
<ajmitch> either that, or have samba use the normal pam mechanisms for user/passwords
<robertj_> ajmitch: the reason to do it that way is that you can hash the passwords without installing samba
<robertj_> so that you can install it after the fact and have it just work
<robertj_> but I think that use case is very common and should be accounted for
<robertj_> Burgwork, ajmitch: so suggestions on where to go from here?
<robertj> ajmitch, Burgwork: sorry about dropping out there, had a hard lock and didn't notice ;)
#ubuntu-directory 2008-04-07
<komachat> hi
<komachat> need help
#ubuntu-directory 2009-04-30
<scheeri1> Hello Dear Community! Can anyone tell me about Ubuntu Directory Service, how can I configure for working from Oracle database?
#ubuntu-directory 2010-04-03
<ug|xdcc13> where can I get help with ubuntu with grub errors
#ubuntu-directory 2010-04-06
<cloakable> hmm

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