#ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-01 <darkxst> ricotz, hey <darkxst> can you add something to my membership application ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimLunn/DeveloperApplication <darkxst> (hoping to apply at the next meeting, provided I can get jbicha to add an endorsement in time for that) <ricotz> darkxst, hi, i see <ricotz> although i can't really judge about your packaging skills since this is what being a MOTU is about, upstream-wise e.g. gjs you are doing a great job <darkxst> ricotz, yes I realise you can't do a proper endorsement, but figured you could add something in the comment section ;) <atrus> gnome-shell dies whenever i try to lock the screen, any thoughts? gdm 3.6.1-0ubuntu1, gnome-shell 3.6.2-0ubuntu0.2, gnome-settings-daemon 3.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.1 <atrus> looks like a segv #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-02 <darkxst> atrus, might be this https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689106 <ubot5> Gnome bug 689106 in lock-screen "ScreenShield: try harder to become modal, and catch failures" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] <darkxst> however I don't recall that causing seg faults, however check your session logs <darkxst> ricotz, last gnome-shell snapshot is very broken on overview/workspaces on multiple monitors <darkxst> can you re-do, git master seems fine <ricotz> darkxst, done <darkxst> ricotz, strangely, its still broken <darkxst> ricotz, hmm, why the hack.patch in mutter? <ricotz> darkxst, sorry, this patch wasnt supposed to be uploaded <darkxst> ricotz, ok, anyway that was the culprit <jbicha> do you guys think we should move most of gnome 3.7.90 from the staging ppa to the regular gnome3 ppa? <ricotz> jbicha, seems fine with me <jbicha> we don't want terminal, control-center, settings-daemon since those have regressions <jbicha> do we need EDS? and does Evolution need a rebuild or do we just need the new version? <jbicha> $ evolution <jbicha> evolution: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/evolution/3.6/libemiscwidgets.so.0: undefined symbol: e_cal_client_source_type_enum_get_type <darkxst> jbicha, yes, sounds good. <darkxst> probably gnome-shell will work with 3.6 eds, but havent tried it <darkxst> not sure about evolution <ricotz> empathy, folks needs the new eds <ricotz> eds is a bit broken due -dev deps and broken pkg-config files <jbicha> ok, we can hold off on empathy and folks <jbicha> gnome-shell doesn't want to build with raring's eds 3.6.2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580679/ <jbicha> I wonder if eds is broken in raring... <ricotz> jbicha, 00-no-disable-deprecated.patch in g-s of ricotz/testing takes care of that #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-03 <darkxst_> jbicha, so hit that lock screen failure <darkxst_> restarting gnome-shell is enough to fix it <darkxst_> btw did you file a bug? <jbicha> darkxst_: no <darkxst_> probably it should retry when it fails ;) <jbicha> ricotz: how long should I wait before I drop the duplicate packages from the staging PPA? <ricotz> jbicha, please dont delete them <ricotz> jbicha, hi ;) <ricotz> and the deps on gnome-documents are not sufficient <jbicha> ricotz: I don't like the clutter and it's confusing <ricotz> i guess you should delete it again <ricotz> (if you are copying packages from one ppa to another, there is normally no need to wait much after it) <ricotz> (in this it has been made clear to enable both) <ricotz> jbicha, i guess alacarte - 3.7.90-0ubuntu1~raring1 ended up in the wrong ppa? <jbicha> ricotz: thanks, it was gnome-menus that I didn't push to the right place <ricotz> jbicha, gnome-documents actually requires tracker <ricotz> no i am not sure you really want it there <ricotz> no/so <jbicha> ricotz: but raring has tracker 0.14 so it's ok, right? <ricotz> it depends on 0.16 <jbicha> I can just fix it so that it doesn't, right? <ricotz> no <ricotz> (maybe by patching configure.ac and hoping the best) <ricotz> (and some of the js files) <jbicha> any reason we shouldn't copy tracker 0.15 then? <ricotz> jbicha, seems reasonable since it needs e-d-s/evolution to be compatible so, rebuilding the failed 0.15.1 in gnome3 should work #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-04 <JDBuntu> ci-Guys.com <JDBuntu> topic/ www.Sci-Guys.com <JDBuntu> whoa, sorry wrong channel! <JDBuntu> ooops <jbicha> I believe the Tech Board meeting is in 5 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting, I don't know how much time they'll have for discussing Ubuntu GNOME with as crazy as this week is... <jbicha> this rolling release thing is rather disruptive :| <jbicha> actually, they're moving quickly <vooze> jbicha, I have just the question for you :D <vooze> know if this is related to 13.04 or its just Empathy? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26061302/billeder/Sk%C3%A6rmbillede%20fra%202013-03-04%2021%3A40%3A42.png It were working before. There is no button to connect to facebook, and on facebook.com all is OK. <vooze> Empathy 3.6.3 <robert_ancell> jbicha, btw if you have any questions regarding mir and gnome feel free to ask <jbicha> robert_ancell: ok, is this something that GNOME Shell & Mutter can work on top of? or is there more of a Compiz replacement? <jbicha> I haven't had time today to read the announcements thoroughly yet <robert_ancell> jbicha, The system compositor has to be Mir but the sessions can be either. We plan on adding a flag to the session .desktop files so each session can decide what display server to use <robert_ancell> In that case GNOME can run using Xorg with a Mir backend, or Wayland with a Mir backend in the future if that's developed <jbicha> vooze: ok that's Ubuntu Online Accounts and I can't really help you there, maybe ubuntu+1 if it's a Raring issue? <robert_ancell> jbicha, we have Unity running on Xorg inside a Mir compositor so pretty confident it should work well <jbicha> robert_ancell: ok and I guess users (or maybe packagers) would have to create a separate .session if they wanted to experiment outside the default <robert_ancell> jbicha, it will probably be the other way around, so unity.desktop has X-DisplayServer=mir and everything else gets X <robert_ancell> jbicha, but yeah, you might want a gnome-shell-mir.desktop if you made gnome-shell mir capable <jbicha> TechBoard says we're good, we just need to see if there is availability for us to get "cdimages" <jbicha> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.669-615-7011.00.html <darkxst> jbicha, awesome! <robert_ancell> darkxst, hey, I was looking at your application. I can't find anything I've approved from you so I'm not sure if I can add much to it. Is there anything I've forgotten? #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-05 <darkxst> robert_ancell, I though you had, but all I can find was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1064269/comments/6 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1064269 in gnome-shell "When running lightDM user switching doesnt work" [Medium,New] <darkxst> although it seems impossible to actually get a full list of sponsors for all my packages <darkxst> jbicha, on the subject of images, the current state for vmware is somewhat broken, but otherwise both images seem to be working fine <darkxst> firefox + libreoffice add about 60-70MB <jbicha> darkxst: ok great <robert_ancell> darkxst, yeah, it feels like there should have been more. I've added an endorsement to your application. <jbicha> darkxst: I'm thinking we'll drop most of the games & Evolution too but add Documents <robert_ancell> jbicha, :..( <robert_ancell> ;) <jbicha> robert_ancell: well if GNOME would decide on an official limited set we'd probably do that <robert_ancell> jbicha, they almost did <jbicha> I was thinking Aisleriot, Mahjongg & Sudoku like Ubuntu (Ubuntu also does Mines), any others we should do? <darkxst> robert_ancell, thanks <jbicha> robert_ancell: we had a short conversation on our list at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/msg00265.html <darkxst> jbicha, not sure, I don't play many games <robert_ancell> jbicha, yeah, I don't have a major opinion. I know aisleriot, sudoku mines seem to be common favourites <jbicha> I think we can get a lists.ubuntu.com list soon which will be nicer than the LP interface <darkxst> definitely add documents, and I would probably leave evolution in, its doesnt really add much to the size, since most of the rdepends are there already <jbicha> darkxst: that's why I wanted to keep the list relatively short (backing away from the original idea of including the whole set since our image is bigger than most of the others) <darkxst> how big are the other images? <jbicha> darkxst: I thought evolution added 10MB or so and nobody noticed that it wasn't in our first 2 alphas <darkxst> we are currently at 880MB for amd64 and 860MB for i386 <jbicha> actually that may not be true now, Xubuntu is about 800MB today but they asked and got a ceiling of 1GB, Kubuntu looks like they're over 900MB <jbicha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ <jbicha> darkxst: ok I'll go ahead and wait on evolution for a bit to see if we get a daily with an official image size first <jbicha> dropping evolution would be edgy even though most people don't use it <darkxst> sure <darkxst> I guess all these people that use webmail, only have 1 email address! <jbicha> nah, gmail for instance works pretty well for unifying multiple accounts <darkxst> including non-gmail accounts though? <darkxst> via IMAP? <jbicha> sure or pop3 & then smtp to send <robert_ancell> jbicha, do you have gnome git commit access? <jbicha> robert_ancell: yes <robert_ancell> jbicha, ok, I was going to say just commit the gnome-games theme patches <robert_ancell> but I just did <jbicha> oh ok <jbicha> I guess you can move -extra-data to the archive? <robert_ancell> jbicha, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695181 <ubot5> Gnome bug 695181 in Git "Archive the gnome-games-extra-data module" [Normal,Unconfirmed] <darkxst> another broken gnome-shell release... http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=6c3685649921790feb00616f5a840debce3e1d85 <ricotz> hmm <ricotz> (they really should avoid rushing things in last-minute, and release something after it had settled for a day or so) <darkxst> yeh, but I guess they all use jhbuild so it doesnt really matter <smartboyhw> Congrats to UGR.... <smartboyhw> jbicha: Congrats !! <darkxst> ricotz, I fixed gobect-introspection, so you can drop the cflags hack next time you update <MrChrisDruif> Evening everyone. <jbicha> howdy <darkxst> jbicha, mutter http://pastebin.com/UEatwuvt <MrChrisDruif> How's it going here? <MrChrisDruif> (Sorry, got a bit preoccupied with something else...ordering a new laptop) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-06 <darkxst> jbicha, gnome-shell http://pastebin.com/mxmu5LMH <darkxst> and mutter incase you missed it earlier http://pastebin.com/UEatwuvt <sgo11> hi, is that possible to download ubuntu gnome remix 13.04 beta now? if so, where is the download link? thanks. <darkxst> sgo11, not quite yet <sgo11> darkxst, ok. thanks for your reply. <darkxst> sgo11, you can build your own with this script, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/+junk/iso-build-script/ <sgo11> darkxst, got it. thanks. <darkxst> or install raring beta and follow the upgrade steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 <sgo11> ok. :) <darkxst> we should have daily images, at some point, now that things are official, but no idea how long they will take to get set up <gonyere> jbicha: I've read some conflicting things about 13.04 - is it going to have 3.6 or 3.8 included by default? <jbicha> gonyere: 13.04 will have 3.6, we updated games and calculator but almost everything else is 3.6 <gonyere> k, is/will there be an easy way to get 3.8? <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 <gonyere> cool :) any thoughts on the current stability of 13.04 ? good, decent, awful? <jbicha> gonyere: I think 13.04 is more stable than 12.10 but there's 3 caveats: <jbicha> 1. It's still Alpha 2. Tomorrow is Feature Freeze which means there's a tendency for developers to push not-quite-finished stuff so that they don't have to wait 6 more months <jbicha> 3. There's a proposal to turn Raring into a daily release and currently there's little protection against one bad upload breaking things <jbicha> not too big of a deal if you're the kind of a person that already runs Ubuntu alphas but otherwise it's unclear yet <darkxst> jbicha, is there some reason why we dont have an updated GOA in the PPA? <jbicha> darkxst: I don't think so, I'm guessing we want it staging though <darkxst> jbicha, ok, I will update it #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-07 <jbicha_> darkxst: are you running gnome-shell 3.7.91 with gnome-control-center 3.7? <darkxst> jbicha_, yes <jbicha_> ok, all of the Settings links in the right side of the top bar work except for Bluetooth Settings <jbicha_> before, only the Settings link worked, how about for you? <darkxst> yeh all working ( I don't have bluetooth) <jbicha_> thanks <darkxst> strangely "open calender" launches gedit <jbicha_> oh that's another fun bug, see bug 841409 <ubot5> bug 841409 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Precise) "GEdit is the only choice as Calendar application in Default Applications dialog" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841409 <jbicha_> I suppose that's an argument for not removing Evolution... :| <darkxst> yeh <darkxst> jbicha_, have you tried building g-c-c update? <jbicha_> darkxst: no I'm just running the regular GNOME3 PPA so it wasn't high priority for me yet :) <darkxst> right, goa panel seems quite broken with updated libgoa, so though I would try update g-c-c, but its complaining about missing eggs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592121/ <darkxst> goa panel is completely broken now <darkxst> jbicha, does thunderbird have UOA integration? (on vanilla ubuntu)? <jbicha> I don't think so but I don't know for sure <darkxst> this commit effectively bumped the goa required to 3.7.91 https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=0641c2494bdf7cf8945bc76fa8e7fe0cd9c59a15 <darkxst> jbicha, I suppose time is running out to get spidermonkey/gjs updated ;( <jbicha> darkxst: yeah, I support your proposal but not enough to sponsor it into the Ubuntu archives for you without other developers saying it's ok <darkxst> yeh unfortunately it really got lost in the flood or RR discussions <jbicha> it'd be a lot easier at the beginning of a release cycle or once Fedora or Debian or someone else picks it up <jbicha> you could try talking to the Debian guys in #debian-gnome on OFTC <darkxst> I tried a bunch of times <darkxst> but probably timezone issues as usual <jbicha> they're mostly Europe-based <jbicha> it took a long time for mozjs to get into Debian in the first place; there's only a few people who want to deal with that kind of package <darkxst> so their working hours are my sleeping hours then <darkxst> ricotz, can you upload this to g3-staging? <darkxst> http://pastebin.com/kb77Kem4 <darkxst> (this will be needed for g-c-c update) <ricotz> darkxst, i see, but not in this form, remove the debian-version suffix from the symbols file and state it was updated in changelog <ricotz> and using ~raring1 <ricotz> darkxst, and sync it with 3.7.90-1 from experimental <darkxst> ricotz, hmm right, I havent done that before. <ricotz> darkxst, it was already a sync, so just grab the debian package and update it <ricotz> pull-debian-source gnome-online-accounts experimental <ricotz> darkxst, also don't forget to compare the configure.ac files to spot dependency changes <ricotz> darkxst, i started to take a look <darkxst> ricotz, ah almost done <ricotz> darkxst, do you know if the location of goaconfig.h is intended? <darkxst> ricotz, I assume so, plenty of others there <darkxst> i.e *config.h under /usr/lib/x86 <ricotz> yeah <ricotz> darkxst, but use /usr/lib/*/goa-1.0/include/* <ricotz> what is the reasoning for "Twitter and yahoo providers are removed" the confflags and references are still there <darkxst> see rishi <darkxst> in gnome-hackers <darkxst> ^comments <darkxst> <rishi> darkxst: I think https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695236 <darkxst> <Services> Bug 695236: critical, High, ---, gnome-online-accounts-maint, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Crash on "Add an online account" <darkxst> <rishi> darkxst: Don't enable Twitter/Yahoo. They are gone from gnome-3-8 post-3.7.91. <darkxst> <rishi> Nothing uses them. <darkxst> <darkxst> rishi, ah, have removed and will try again <ubot5> Gnome bug 695236 in Online Accounts "Crash on "Add an online account"" [Critical,Resolved: wontfix] <ubot5> bug 695236 in Wikkid Wiki "No documentation on format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695236 <ricotz> darkxst, i see <darkxst> ricotz, updated http://pastebin.com/kb77Kem4 <ricotz> darkxst, dont update the already present symbols <ricotz> drop libnotify-dev <ricotz> and install the css file <ricotz> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-online-accounts/commit/?id=06928f928fb120494a6dd7d90ae24af667042dd1 <ricotz> seeing such a commit dosnt really fit in the "removal plan" <ricotz> and drop the leading "/" in libgoa-1.0-dev.install <ricotz> darkxst, i will be back later <darkxst> ok <sgo11> hi, after installing ubuntu gnome remix, sometimes my laptop can not be shutdown properly with the shutdown button provided by gnome. This happens randomly. when it happens, everything seems off including the screen is black, the keyboard is no longer functional etc... But the led lights and fans of laptop are still running. do anyone have any clues? thanks. <ricotz> darkxst, did you finish goa? <jbicha> I think sabdfl wants us to still have Remix in our name <darkxst> ricotz, yes http://pastebin.com/gwNNVT5n <darkxst> ricotz, so according to rishi, twitter provider is likely going to be removed due to legal concerns <darkxst> yahoo provider will be left in, incase someone wants to use it in the future, but the confflags will be removed from stable release <darkxst> jbicha, I did see his post re not using 'edition', has he said something further? <jbicha> well he doesn't always say things himself directly <jbicha> but there was https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-March/001524.html <darkxst> yeh thats the one I saw <darkxst> g-c-c http://pastebin.com/VmMSNXWr (depends on the new goa posted earlier) <ricotz> darkxst, i pushed goa to staging, thanks! <darkxst> oh, we are missing the new clocks app #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-08 <darkxst> jbicha, can you copy gvfs to staging to rebuild against the new goa? <darkxst> actually it will need some minor changes to install the goa monitor <darkxst> jbicha, http://pastebin.com/2zckE7s1 <jbicha> you know I don't think I've touched gvfs before <darkxst> its basically just a rebuild to get the goa module built <darkxst> for files integation in nautilus <darkxst> i.e. ownCloud support <jbicha> the backends install stuff is an interesting hack <jbicha> it's going to be a bit annoying whenever regular Ubuntu updates gvfs though <jbicha> by the way, several sponsors prefer the series be left at UNRELEASED <jbicha> but I had one sponsor who didn't like that I left it that way <jbicha> darkxst: you want to try again? https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+build/4354323 <jbicha> I didn't test-build it first this time :( <darkxst> jbicha, I did test build it and it build fine <darkxst> here <darkxst> meh -> Build GOA volume monitor: no <jbicha> missing goa build-depends? <darkxst> jbicha, yes <darkxst> jbicha, just add 'libgoa-1.0-dev (>= 3.7.1)' <darkxst> hmm, had been told not leave the UNRELEASED before <jbicha> that's the fun part of having to find a sponsor, it's hard to tell what they'll ask you to do :| <jbicha> I think I figured out the PS1 gnome-terminal problem <jbicha> darkxst: does the new bash in the staging ppa work for you? <darkxst> ricotz, hey, if you update e-d-s can you make sure the goa owncloud module is added to packaging. <darkxst> (I am off for the weekend in a bit) <sgo11> After the grub load, there is a screen which shows "Ubuntu Gnome" and process bar (4 dots). how can I change it? what is it called? I don't think that is managed by plymouth. thanks. <camelinahat> Hi Folks, grats on the distro! What will be involved to become one of the 'recognized Ubuntu flavours' as seen here: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives <jbicha> camelinahat: I believe we're official as of Monday <jbicha> we've held off on doing a more formal announcement until we get an idea for how soon we'll be able to piggy-back off Ubuntu's image building infrastructure <camelinahat> jbicha: That's awesome! Congrats! :) <camelinahat> can I ask, long term, how do you plan on comparing with the Gnome 3 PPA? same packages pre-installed as they offer (and without the unity stuff) or not quite so bleeding edge and just standard repository gnome 3 packages? <jbicha> we're the same people behind the GNOME3 PPAs <jbicha> all official Ubuntu flavors have to stick with the regular archives for their images <camelinahat> Ah okay. I wasn't aware of the last point. So for the most Gnome 3 experience it's best to go with the image, and then continue using the PPA as well. :) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-09 <Andy80^> hi <Andy80^> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome Remix, latest version. I've a strange problem with Nautilus: if I double click on folders or files they don't open. I need to select them with arrows and open them pressing Enter. Is this a known bug? <jbicha> Andy80^: no you might want to check your double-click settings in System Settings>Mouse & Touchpad <jbicha> what version of nautilus? <Andy80^> jbicha, I was using 3.6.3 because I've enabled also the Gnome3 PPA, but now I've just downgraded to the quantal package... I reboot the system and I tell you if the bug is still present <Andy80^> anyway, I checked also the settings and it was not that problem <Andy80^> I'll be back in a couple of minutes <Andy80^> ok, 3.4.2 works fine :) <Andy80^> I probably should not use the Gnome 3 PPA <Andy80^> this one I mean http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu <jbicha> hmm, there's bug 1071922; I could backport that fix to the GNOME3 PPA <ubot5> bug 1071922 in OEM Priority Project quantal "double tap does not open folders or files in Nautilus" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071922 <Andy80^> jbicha, ah ok, so it was a known bug <jbicha> Andy80^: is it a touch screen? <Andy80^> jbicha, it has a touch screen (it's an Intel Ultrabook), but I was using the mouse to double click on folders <jbicha> ok, give the new package a few hours to build and see if that helps <jbicha> it'll be nautilus 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu6~ubuntu12.10.1 <Andy80^> ok, I must remember to "unlock" the package in Synaptic. For the moment I've locked douglassanchez@example.org <Andy80^> oh... and there is also another strange behaviour that I noticed, but it's about Chrome <Andy80^> for example when I searc something on Google, I open a result on another tab and then I go back to the results tab and it's blocked <Andy80^> I need to close the results tab <Andy80^> and search again in another tab <Andy80^> I don't know if it's a Chrome bug or if it's related to Gnome in any way #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-10 <darkxst> jbicha, e-d-s 3.7.91 http://pastebin.com/a6MGUh6D #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-11 <darkxst> robert_ancell, on systemd, gnome-shell has this (somewhat hackish) code to inhibit suspend. Is there something similar we could do on Ubuntu? <robert_ancell> darkxst, I'm not sure how that would be done in Ubuntu <darkxst> any idea who might be good to talk to about this? <darkxst> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/tree/js/misc/loginManager.js#n198 <sgo11> hi, what login manager does ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 use? lightdm or gdm? thanks. <sgo11> I think it's using gdm... <darkxst> sgo11, gdm <sgo11> darkxst, thanks a lot for your reply. I have some questions regarding gnome remix. first, there is a screen between the grub and login manager. it displays "Ubuntu Gnome" and 4 dots progress bar. maybe it's called splash screen. I am not sure. how can I modify it? In ubuntu (not remix), it's defined by plymouth. what about gnome remix? thanks. <sgo11> I have another question regarding "Power Off". When I click "Power Off", my laptop can not be shutdown properly. The keyboard is no longer functional. My led lights and fans are on. This problem happens 95% of time (most of time. but not 100%). Btw, using command "sudo shutdown -h now" is always working. thanks. <darkxst> sgo11, yes that is a plymouth theme <darkxst> not sure about the shutdown issue, best to file a bug for that one <darkxst> it is unlikely to be specific to Ubuntu GNOME <sgo11> darkxst, I checked plymouth setup under "/lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-gnome-logo". It does not look like what I saw during boot time. I also installed "plymouth-x11". and then run "sudo plymouthd ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 10 ; sudo killall plymouthd". The popup window does not look like what I saw during boot time either. I doubt it's plymouth theme. but you said it was, I am kinda confused. thanks. <sgo11> maybe ubuntu gnome remix is using text.plymouth config file instead of default.plymouth config file? if this is the case, why does UGR use text.plymouth? thanks. <darkxst> sgo11, are you using nvidia blobs? <sgo11> darkxst, I am using nvidia card and nvidia driver. <darkxst> sgo11, graphical plymouth is disabled when using nvidia drivers, you can re-enable it, but it may be unstable <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1063969 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1063969 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "NVIDIA does not work with framebuffer drivers" [Wishlist,Triaged] <sgo11> darkxst, oh. got it. how can I enable it? is this the same as ubuntu 12.10 normal release? <darkxst> yes, we don't touch any of that 'core' stuff <sgo11> darkxst, got it. thank you very much for your help. :) <caravena> :) <caravena> Hello users of GNOME :D <vibhav> jbicha: congrats! <jbicha> darkxst: yeah I was going to mention the logind bug to you * ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-gnome to: Ubuntu GNOME Development & Support | Our first release, 12.10, is out! 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Download from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome <jbicha> darkxst: you don't keep a blog or website, do you? <darkxst> no <jbicha> I see you do mountain biking though :) <derWachert> waiting for ubuntu-gnome.org :P <darkxst> jbicha, yes <darkxst> along with snowboarding and rock climbing <jbicha> hmm, a comment on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/its-official-ubuntu-gnome-remix-joins-the-ubuntu-family suggests we pronunce it gub-un-too <jbicha> while it's pronounced "wrong", it would be nice if someone had suggested that earlier :) <darkxst> there would always be confusion over pronunciation though <darkxst> jbicha, anyway I must go to bed <derWachert> GNOME Ubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Gubuntu.. <derWachert> i like Gubuntu :P <derWachert> whats the final name now? <jbicha> Ubuntu GNOME <derWachert> k, thx ;) <derWachert> got 3 domains now :P gubuntu.de gnomebuntu.de and ubuntu-gnome.de <jbicha> why? <derWachert> i like to safe such domains and redirect them to the original project <derWachert> i hate domaingrabber misusing such names <Hotshot> thank god for ubuntu gnome <Hotshot> just kidding! thank you devs :D <camelinahat> jbicha: Will a G+ page be setup as well? In addition to whichever web page is launched etc? <jbicha> camelinahat: um sure, we don't have anyone working on social media/marketing yet <camelinahat> Google+ I'm familiar with, and FB as well I suppose. Can't say marketing or other social media is my thing though. Primarily I see social media generally just used for announcements usually directing back to a main article on the official site or something. <jbicha> you're welcome to do that <camelinahat> I'd be happy to see what I can do! :) <jbicha> thank you :) <camelinahat> Are there any assets for the website yet? Icons, etc that I might be able to use? Or just general Gnome/Ubuntu ones at this point? <jbicha> no we don't have a logo yet <jbicha> https://plus.google.com/110356875332222535709/posts/DnbugwdB6Da <camelinahat> Nice. I like it <jbicha> trademarks are annoying things though <jbicha> the Debian GNOME team had to stop using their blended logo, something like http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/images/gnome-debian-small-trans.png <camelinahat> Yeah I wasn't sure where the CC begins and ends with Logos etc. <jbicha> so now they use the two logos separately http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/ <camelinahat> First post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/108356762331170101188/108356762331170101188/posts/AmLvpULnbnX <jbicha> until we get a better design something like that would probably work <camelinahat> Still working on filling out profile info, etc. <camelinahat> Sorry should be this address: <camelinahat> https://plus.google.com/108356762331170101188/posts/AmLvpULnbnX <jbicha> camelinahat: thanks, we probably shouldn't have the logos touching though <jbicha> I wonder if GNOME would let us use a white foot inside an Ubuntu orange circle <camelinahat> jbicha: Oh, okay then. I'll try and fix that up some, just to have something until we can get a final logo. <derWachert> maybe i can help you create a grafic ;) im a designer, i could create a logo and the header for the page and the community <jbicha> https://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines <jbicha> http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo <camelinahat> derWachert: I'd appreciate that though I'm also not sure what the status is on an official website (and design) but as jbicha points out, we have to adhere to logo usage guidelines and copyright issues. <jbicha> derWachert: could you mock up the GNOME white foot inside an orange circle (like the Ubuntu circle of friends) <derWachert> it should be no problem to create a nice looking "pre" Logo considerung both guidelines <jbicha> thanks! <camelinahat> In the mean time I've temporarily adjusted the other one just to ensure it doesn't offend anyone :) <camelinahat> I'm out for the evening. Later folks. :) <derWachert> jbicha, see first try http://cloud.8aw.de/public.php?service=files&t=b929646b37c3acb3a3c4c930124a7def <darkxst> derWachert, nice! <derWachert> thx ;) <derWachert> still working on an own icon... got some ideas, but its late here in germany, gotta go to sleep soon #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-12 <hyperair> hey, i was wondering if there was anything being done about making applications compiled with libappindicator support in ubuntu work better with gnome shell's notification area? (left click launches application, rather than menu) <rico129> hello? <darkxst> hi <rico129> hey darkxst! <rico129> be right back <Kris_away> I heard the good news! <Kris_away> Although the name feels wrong... do I call it g'buntu... or gnobuntu (silent g) <mgedmin> thanks for doing this! <mgedmin> I like Ubuntu, and I like GNOME, and thanks to your work I won't have to choose one or the other <camelinahat> Morning folks. <fhedstrom> I want to help! <fhedstrom> :D <fhedstrom> I forgot the "Hi" <derWachert> lol <derWachert> hi <fhedstrom> :) <derWachert> hi jbicha <jbicha> hi <jbicha> camelinahat: wow you got 350 +1 on the g+ page in a day <camelinahat> :) <camelinahat> And 424 Likes on FB <camelinahat> Off for the evening. Later folks. <SonikkuAmerica> Hooray! We're now official! #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-13 <laz0rrrgore> hi guys. i'm on 12.10 & gnome3-team ppa, and i'm using two different keyboard-layouts, but shell doesn't show an indicator. does anyone know why? i've read that the ppa would fix this issue ... <X-warrior> hey does anybody has a screenshot so I can see how ubuntu gnome looks like? <X-warrior> other question, was this version created because users wanted gnome instead of unity? <robert_ancell> X-warrior, any standard GNOME3 screenshot should look correct <robert_ancell> It was created because people wanted to use an unmodifed version of GNOME on Ubuntu, I'm sure they come from a range of backgrounds (Unity, other distros etc) <X-warrior> oh this gnome3 looks like unity <topyli> congrats for being offficial. you should probably be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope <topyli> otherwise i don't think the irc team has any problems with it. except maybe you'll need more ops in the future :) <topyli> also here: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives <Pici> woo <SonikkuAmerica> Now that we're an official flavor, will it be possible to upgrade to 13.04 directly from 12.10 Remix, or will it require a new ISO? <camelinahat> G'day jbicha <SonikkuAmerica> lol, like anyone comes here... <SonikkuAmerica> Which is weird... I guess Ubuntu GNOME still needs a catch-on somewhere. <camelinahat> SonikkuAmerica: Oh they do, but as you can imagine its a rather busy time for everyone getting infrastructure set up to start getting ready for Final beta release as well as daily images. <SonikkuAmerica> You don't say. I'm actually excited! I'm using the 12.10 "Remix" right now, and am glad that GNOME is getting itself flavor status in Ubuntu again <SonikkuAmerica> ESP. since Unity is ditching the GTK+ toolkit <camelinahat> I agree, on both fronts. Since Unity (and Gnome 3 really) I've been waiting for a 'Gubuntu' variant. I've seen other partial attempts and other distro's based off of Ubuntu but glad to see Ubuntu GNOME as an official flavour. And glad to help out with it any way I can as well. <jbicha> I wonder if these work: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/ <camelinahat> !! <camelinahat> Booting from it now in my vm <camelinahat> jbicha: Nice. Seems to be working well so far <camelinahat> jbicha: Is there a bug list for filing bugs (for the installer for instance). Currently one of the screenshots shows Gnome Epiphany and another shows Gnumeric both of which I believe are no longer part of the standard installation? <jbicha> camelinahat: I believe you can file a bug against ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu for that <camelinahat> jbicha: Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was (or will be) ones specific for Ubuntu Gnome to track. Thanks. <camelinahat> jbicha: Do you want me to announce daily-build availability on FB/G+ or wait until a message is sent out to the mailing list? <jbicha> I'd prefer a mailing list announcement first, did you want to write one? <camelinahat> No problem. And I'm not sure if I'm qualified for that haha. Any special notices or considerations or what-not to mention? <jbicha> well we're community ran and I don't want people to think this is a one-man show <jbicha> we're not doing powerpc or amd64+mac images unless we have people volunteer to test those for all of the milestones <camelinahat> I don't know that people think it's a one-man show, but at the moment you (and Perhaps Tim on the mailing list) are the most visible members of the community. I think much of that will start being clearer though once we have various wiki pages and an official homepage set up and such <camelinahat> jbicha: How's something like this look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611511/ <camelinahat> Or should I drop 'first release of Ubuntu Gnome 13.04.. daily builds' and phrase it more 'the availability of ...' <jbicha> camelinahat: yeah I don't think "release" is the right word, here's a retweak of the 1st and 3rd paragraphs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611546/ <jbicha> you can remove the extra "always" from the 5th paragraph <camelinahat> jbicha: Sounds good. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5611569/ <jbicha> let's say "Ubuntu 13.04 Final Beta" <jbicha> it looks great, thank you! <topyli> epiphany of course isn't a part of the standard ubuntu installation, but i certainly think it should be part of the gnome flavor :) <topyli> it isn't in debian though <camelinahat> Well that's all for me today. G'nite folks. And grats on daily builds! =) <dupondje> hmz, empathy broken for others also in raring? <dupondje> with gnome-shell #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-14 <dupondje> quite silent here :( <camelinahat> Mmm it's only 9am where I'm at. Further west I'm sure they're still in bed <darkxst> jbicha, hey <darkxst> https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/logind <darkxst> oh you just missed it, ricotz : https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/logind <jbicha> darkxst: cool thanks <darkxst> jbicha, seems to be working well, but there are a few bits that might need some work <darkxst> but I just walked over an hour to get home, so that can wait ;) <jbicha> ricotz: hey can we add darkxst to the GNOME3 team? <ricotz> darkxst, nice, please be more verbose in the changelogs, meaning mention the files you touched and what actually changed <ricotz> jbicha, yeah would be reasonable ;) <ricotz> bbl <jbicha> darkxst: ok I added you <jbicha> for those visiting https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages it's nice if you use the -v option to debuild <jbicha> for instance debuild -S -v3.6.6 will include all changelog entries newer than 3.6.6 in the .changes file which is used on that site <ricotz> jbicha, it might be interesting, but i am not a fan of that, btw don't forget the epoch if needed <jbicha> ricotz: yeah I messed that up on my last g-c-c upload <dupondje> Anyone tried Empathy on raring with gnome-shell? <camelinahat> Afternoon folks. <dupondje> could somebody try empathy on gnome-shell? <ricotz> dupondje, empathy 3.7.90 works here <dupondje> 3.6.3-0ubuntu4 here <dupondje> maby should upgrade :P <jbicha> dupondje: did you file a bug report? <dupondje> jbicha: not yet, as I would like to know if i'm the only one hitting the issue or not <dupondje> :) <camelinahat> Looks like the daily build announcement got a decent bit of attention on G+ :) <Lema> Hi, can I ask how is the consensus in shipping libreoffice and ubuntu software center with 13.04 <jbicha> Lema: I don't have an exact number but just taking a guess maybe 75%+ preferred LO & USC <SonikkuAmerica> As opposed to what? The GNOME software thingie is just... let's just say I installed Synaptic (even though I didn't) <Lema> Ubuntu 12.04 gnome shell remix shipped with libreoffice, firefox and USC by default but then came 12.10 and it didn't, I also felt it was a throwback <Lema> I didn't check the daily builds yet but can I ask if 13.04 is shipping with libreoffice, firefox and ubuntu softare center by default? <camelinahat> Lema: yep. LO 4.0.1, USC 5.5.5, FF 19.0.2 :) <jbicha> Lema: the Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix wasn't quite the same project as this one which only started with the 12.10 cycle <jbicha> our vision is to be "mostly pure GNOME" but it looks like LO, Firefox and USC better meet our user's needs and are better maintained so we switched to them this cycle <jbicha> I don't think 'GNOME Software' has any plans to support proprietary apps which is an important feature for many Ubuntu users <camelinahat> I know myself I'm glad for LO and USC (I know many others were very insistent about USC as well). Firefox I'm not so concerned as I'm a chrom(e|ium) user myself ;) <Lema> I am very glad to know that 13.04 will ship those packages <Lema> Is there any plan to make a 12.04.2 version? <jbicha> Lema: no, we missed that train and I'd say it's likely that Ubuntu GNOME won't treat 14.04 as an extended LTS (we won't do 5 years of support, maybe 2 years though) <jbicha> it's a bit confusing but we're not the same project as the Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix; 12.10 was our first release cycle <Lema> I know they are different, we currently ship the gnome shell remix 12.04 as the main distro on computers, thats why a 12.04.2 would come in handy <camelinahat> I'm out for the evening. Later folks! <jbicha> ah, you'll need to ask Jan Hoffmann about that <Lema> You recently changed our bug to upgrade gnome-shell to 3.4.2 will it ever get uploaded? <jbicha> I'm not currently working on that update; the Ubuntu 12.04 machines in the lab here run Unity so it's a bit more work for me to verify the fixes <jbicha> I think the Ubuntu patches didn't apply cleanly with 3.4.2 so there was a bit more work there too but I could be mis-remembering <Lema> I can help testing the update if that helps... <HadiM> are extensions gnome website working for you guys ? (i am using gnome team ppa sor gnome-shell 3.8) <phillw> hi guys, has the name for the ISO tracker file name been decided yet? is it ubuntugnome ? <phillw> don't worry, found it:) ubuntu-gnome <jbicha> phillw: I thought you were a Lubuntu guy ;) <phillw> jbicha: I'm also the guy who runs http://phillw.net/isos/ <phillw> as the 'non' ubuntu flavours do have problems getting enough torrents going and the ubuntu server gets hammered, I schedule for these teams to have a mirror off my dedi server. <jbicha> phillw: cool :) <phillw> I usually see a spike at release time and nearly used up 2TB of data allowance last time.... I'm allowed 10TB / month :) <phillw> people do seem to forget, at times, that we are all part of the same family :) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-15 <Guest27218> which version of ubuntu will start using MIR <camelinahat> Morning folks. <camelinahat> jbicha: Was anything ever decided on for a different logo? <SonikkuAmerica> I did major edits to the wiki on Ubuntu GNOME: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 <<< I moved most of the general info to the main page and left the download page with the install info and bug reporting information. <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: ok but what happens when 13.04 is released? <jbicha> We need a separate single page (or group of pages) with the complete release notes for every milestone (12.10 Final, 12.10 Beta, 13.04 Beta, etc.) <SonikkuAmerica> I do plan on removing the stuff on specific version info and pointing to each release... should I set up a separate page for each of them...? <SonikkuAmerica> (I understand we're only having one beta release before the 1st stable) <jbicha> yes we should not delete release notes for any release that we do (and that includes any Alpha or Beta milestones) <SonikkuAmerica> I didn't delete all the release notes... but should I throw specific version info back into the page for the release? <SonikkuAmerica> If so, that's an easy fix <SonikkuAmerica> Like (GNOME Shell 3.6) etc...? <camelinahat> Can probably remove 'Remix' from the mailing list link as well :) <SonikkuAmerica> Oh right... XD I tried to get rid of all the refs to "Remix" <camelinahat> :) <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: almost all of the stuff you moved to the front page of the wiki is part of the Release Notes <jbicha> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes for instance <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK... so what exactly stays on it? <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: ok the page looks better now, could you also copy the Participate, More Information, and Support sections back to the release notes as well <SonikkuAmerica> Sure. <jbicha> you can keep a copy on the main page too <jbicha> thanks, the front page of the wiki does look better now! <jbicha> it was very minimal before as we needed to at least have something there <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah... I think I got a little overzealous with my first edit and decided to swing by. I'm really excited that GNOME is (sort of) coming back to Ubuntu, and as a young college student with a passion for both Ubuntu and GNOME, wanted to get involved. <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: you're in Ohio, right? <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: have you met gonyere yet? I believe she runs Ubuntu and is active with GNOME <SonikkuAmerica> Nope. <jbicha> and there will be several GNOME guys at http://openhelpconference.com/ <jbicha> I went last year but won't be able to this year <SonikkuAmerica> I dunno... That's actually the week before Cedarville starts fall classes, and it's only about an hour's drive from there... <jbicha> really? fall semester starts in June/July? <SonikkuAmerica> Oh wait... I'm looking at the '12 schedule... derp I could've made if I'd known <SonikkuAmerica> It's actually pretty early this year... <jbicha> it was in June the first year (2011) too <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah... and I doubt I'll have $100 plus hotel fee... oh well <SonikkuAmerica> I probably could use a few webinars' worth of stuff <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: well....are you interested in writing help for GNOME? <SonikkuAmerica> I actually see myself as a concept-oriented kind of guy, but I did join the Spanish translation team because I'm a fluent Spanish speaker as well as an English speaker and can understand written Spanish well <jbicha> if you were a GNOME Foundation member and were involved in docs then I believe there's sponsorship money available <SonikkuAmerica> I'm not (yet) enough of a contributor. In fact, I'm just starting out. <jbicha> you can to shaunm on #docs on irc.gnome.org if he has a student discount; conferences/hackfests are a bit expensive to put on but we don't want to exclude people <jbicha> *can talk to* <SonikkuAmerica> Is that a symlink to freenode or its own (or a different) IRC network <SonikkuAmerica> ? <jbicha> GNOME uses a different irc network <SonikkuAmerica> OK <camelinahat> jbicha: Did you catch my message earlier about the icons? Of the ones that were presented on the mailing list or on G+ rather than quick and dirty ones I threw for G+ and FB? <jbicha> camelinahat: I like the mailing list ones, we'll have to decide soon since User Interface Freeze is next Thursday <jbicha> I'm thinking we'll just have to pick something by Monday and it can always be revisited or tweaked in a future release cycle <jbicha> I'll email the list tonight or tomorrow <camelinahat> jbicha: sounds good. I like them better than what I have right now but don't want to be switching them a lot either. <laz0rrrgore> hey guys, just installed 13.04, but there seems to be some kind of problem. gdm is starting (at least i'm in a gdm session), but it won't show me the login screen. i can only manage to login through console. <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, probably openGL is broken <laz0rrrgore> oh! anything i can do about it, or just wait till a fix is in the repos? <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, what graphics drivers do you use? <darkxst> its probably a misconfiguration on your end <laz0rrrgore> darkxst, how to find out? i've got the thinkpad sl510 with Intel GMA 4500MHD. just installed the daily from today <darkxst> did the live CD work ok? <laz0rrrgore> yeah <laz0rrrgore> i can also see the blue stripes background after install. just not the gdm prompt <Leon_Nardella> I'm in the same situation with a GMA900 Dell netbook. <laz0rrrgore> tried to add gnome3-team ppa (because i thought maybe an updated gdm would help), but no luck ... <darkxst> ok try 'apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel' <darkxst> if that doesnt help, grab the xorg logs from /var/log/gdm/:0.log <laz0rrrgore> thanks ... i'm on it .... <laz0rrrgore> reinstalling didn't work ... <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, can you grab the X logs then <laz0rrrgore> i think so ;) just a sec <laz0rrrgore> ok,. here it is ... http://bit.ly/15RmLIq <darkxst> that looks fine, what about if you run 'export DISPLAY=:0; glxinfo | grep OpenGL' <darkxst> is renderer listed as Software/llvm <darkxst> 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' <laz0rrrgore> think i'm doing something wrong here. just getting 'Error: unable to open display :0' <darkxst> maybe it can't connect to the gdm server <darkxst> you could try 'startx -- :1' <darkxst> and then use :1 in the above command <laz0rrrgore> ah. maybe i'm the wrong guy for this. getting: 'xinit: connection to X server lost' <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, can you file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug mesa' <darkxst> after you have done that, you can try and upgrade mesa and see if that helps https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/mesa/+packages <darkxst> jbicha, should we be listed on the isotracker? <laz0rrrgore> sure! are there any details i should mention in the bug report? <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, just cc me on the bug <jbicha> darkxst: yes but we probably just need to specify what tests we want <laz0rrrgore> darkxst: okay. thanks for your help and for your patience in spite of my newbism <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, if updated mesa doesnt work, as a temporary workaround you can blacklist the intel kernel module <darkxst> then it will fallback to llvmpipe (as its meant to anyway, when glx is broken) <darkxst> jbicha, I think something similar to Ubuntu Studio would be a good start <jbicha> darkxst: ok, do you want to ask on #ubuntu-release about that? <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, you didnt use ubuntu-bug? <darkxst> can you run 'apport-collect 1155829', so system info gets added to the bug <laz0rrrgore> oh sorry, i'm totally new to this ... <darkxst> jbicha, ok <laz0rrrgore> darkxst: apparently i can't. is this possible from console? it asks for authorization through the browser <SolidSteel144> hi, does anyone else have issues getting UG 13.04 daily to install? <jbicha> SolidSteel144: have you had any trouble installing the regular Ubuntu daily? <SolidSteel144> no <SolidSteel144> UG 13.04 daily gets stuck on preparing to install <SolidSteel144> well actually, I misread.. I haven't tried regular ubuntu 13.04 daily lately #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-16 <darkxst> laz0rrrgore, its certainly possible, from memory it can upload data and then gives you a URL to visit later for auth <darkxst> jbicha, the daily images aren't actually building daily yet? <kzetts> Whoa, this channel is small. <kzetts> Will Gnome Remix update to 13.04 when it goes live, or is it different now that its officially supported? <SonikkuAmerica> When is the first (and only) beta expected again? <phillw> darkxst: the ubuntu-gnome daily builds have, today, been added to the cron-job for the build server. Ubuntu GNOME builds cronned, starting at 15:32 UTC daily <darkxst> phillw, :) <phillw> I saw colin mention it on -release earlier. <phillw> I've also taken it upon myself to mirror up your 12.10.1 amd64 and 12.10 i386 onto the dedi server and have included a link on your wiki area. <phillw> Are you still aiming for a beta-2 release for 13.04? <darkxst> phillw, yes <darkxst> oh cool, torrents are probably mostly dead by now ;) <phillw> darkxst: excellent, and that is why I mirror the flavours of ubuntu family, not to often are there enough seeders :) #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-17 <darkxst> ricotz, can you update clutter to git master, I think it fixes the stupid screenshield crashes I have been having <ricotz> darkxst, i guess you mean the "1.14" branch not master <darkxst> yeh whatever jhbuild uses (which is that I think) <ricotz> ok <darkxst> yeh 1.14 branch <ricotz> darkxst, pushed <darkxst> ricotz, thanks #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-18 <camelinahat> Afternoon folks. <darkxst> ok, we have been added to the ISO tracker. test cases should show up with the next daily build <darkxst> for now just generic install/upgrade/live test cases <darkxst> jbicha, where are we at with the logo? <jbicha> darkxst: uh I neglected to send out that email yet :( <jbicha> we need to decide quickly as we need to land a few pieces of art by Thursday if possible <darkxst> jbicha, yeh and probably we should run it past both Boards first? <sbwillia> Is there anyway to currently go back to ubuntu-desktop after executing sudo-apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions? I tried going back to the default ubuntu-desktop and when I tried changing my display preferences to a higher resolution, I get this error: "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemone was not provided by any .service files" <sbwillia> System specs: tried this on 13.04 and running in a VM. #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-19 <SonikkuAmerica> Hmmm... the GNOME 3 PPA seems to break the Raring daily at this point. <SonikkuAmerica> Anyway... this is rather inconvenient... I get the opening GNOME screen (but no fade to GDM). No graphical applications work, and [ sudo apt-get update ] doesn't either (my Internet connection does web auth). <SonikkuAmerica> (Should I ask this in +1?) <gonyere> so, how do i try gnome-classic ? I've installed ubuntu gnome 13.04 and added both the gnome-3-team ppa and ricotz-testing ppa and updated everything but its still not an option on login? <gonyere> nm, its magically working now... :p <jbicha> gonyere: I think we need to upload a new gnome-shell-extensions version for 3.7.92 <gonyere> jbicha - could be. can i recommend that in the next vs we include gnome-shell-extensions by default in 13.10 ubuntu gnome ? <gonyere> so that classic works out-of-the-box <jbicha> gonyere: yes I believe we were planning to do that when we ship 3.8 <gonyere> jbicha: cool #ubuntu-gnome 2013-03-20 <darkxst> UI freeze is coming up this week, is anyone able to update the screenshots for our installer? <gonyere> if i had any idea how to take a screenshot during install i'd do it :p <darkxst> gonyere, no you take screenshots of the various
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