#kubuntu-devel 2005-09-01 <tvo> Riddell: you there? <tvo> bbl <hunger> Hi there! <hunger> Riddell: How was the conference you have been to? <hunger> Riddell: aKademy or what was it? <sebas> It's started this morning <sebas> conference2005.kde.org <hunger> sebas: Oh, cool... I thought he was back since he was Riddell-away for the last couple of times I saw him on IRC:-) <Riddell> hunger: I was at a non-computer conference which was very nice and now I'm at a computer conference which is also very nice <Riddell> Mark Shuttleworth is about to give a talk <Riddell> alas, no internet in the lecture theatres damnit <Riddell> or streaming <hunger> Riddell: So enjoy yourself! <tvo> meh my compu is slow running 2 kde's and listening to akademy stream at the same time :( <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/searchbar.diff <tvo> Riddell: did you receive & read status reports, about rlocate / about:konqi ? <Riddell> tvo: received, reading up on them is on my todo list for this evening <Riddell> as is your searchbar diff now :) <Riddell> please poke me if I don't get back to you <tvo> hehe ok <tvo> Riddell: btw, i'm curious whether I did enough for soc, can you give an indication ? :p <Riddell> tvo: is your time up already? <Riddell> do I need to report back to google? <tvo> no, 4 days, excluding this one <tvo> till september 1st * tvo is just curious <Riddell> I need to catch up on your status reports properly before giving an answer, going to be another late night <tvo> ok :-) #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-02 <pef> hi <pef> is qt4-sqlite planned to be packaged ? <tvo> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate * tvo pokes Riddell #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-03 <EvanCarroll> Any plans on including the latest amarok in breezy? <verwilst> Riddell: ! <verwilst> you're back! <tvo> Riddell: ping * mode/#kubuntu-devel [-s] by ChanServ * netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net * ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:irc.freenode.net] : Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult || KDE 3.5 Alpha1 deb's under construction! || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html <hunger> HiddenWolf: Not sicker than spamming in general. <tvo> Riddell: ping <Riddell> tvo: yo <tvo> heh you finally there :) <tvo> anyway, did you read up on status reports? <Riddell> yeah, no internet access in lecture theatres here damnit <tvo> :) <Riddell> not yet, it's top of my todo list now after these talk writeups <Riddell> is there a new version of kio-locate we should have in breezy?: <Riddell> s/:// <tvo> yes, I released kio-locate- 0.2 yesterday <tvo> see wiki for links <tvo> a sponsored upload would be nice :) <Riddell> kio-locate is now in main, means we have to get approval <tvo> [WWW] http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc} <tvo> oh did it already get in? <Riddell> is there a list of improvements and fixes? <Riddell> I just looked at it and it's in main :) <tvo> there's a ChangeLog inside the orig.tar.gz <tvo> I could up it somewhere <tvo> most importantly: uds_hidden, recursive hitcounting <tvo> meh, after looking at ChangeLog again, it might be a bit too summarized <tvo> http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/changelog-kio-locate--tvo--0.2.html <tvo> ^^ there is more detailed changelog <tvo> Riddell: should I ask mdz for inclusion? <Riddell> tvo: sure <tvo> Riddell: mdz approved, do you have time for a sponsored upload? <Riddell> yep <tvo> Riddell: ok, cool, http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc} <Riddell> kio-locate# dpkg-source -x *dsc <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.diff' <Riddell> hmm, do you get that? <tvo> Riddell: yes. That's a bug in dpkg-source, the fixed version should be repos. <tvo> *in repos <tvo> (details in status report) <Riddell> golly, you're right <tvo> :) <Riddell> tvo: did you get a reply to "why the common-->../common symlink in doc dirs"? <tvo> Riddell: yes, all kinds of arguments claiming it should stay there <tvo> for different language support, and because the docbook DTD has to be changed etc. <tvo> I didn't consider myself enough expertised to continue discussing, especially because it doesn't harm anyone <Riddell> yeah <tvo> I reported the bug to ita (he's there in Malaga) and he fixed it <tvo> in bksys <Riddell> have you checked if the xrandr patch in breezy works? <Riddell> [breezy-changes] Accepted kio-locate 0.4.2tvo0.2 (source) <tvo> yes, it works fine. I used it intensively for reading some mechanical vibration (study) pdf's :-) <Riddell> cool <Riddell> tvo: could the about:konq locate box go above the Home/Storage icons but still in the box? <tvo> yes, it's a matter of moving the HTML around. Send a new patch? <Riddell> it's strange that inotify doesn't have an easy way for watching "all changes to the filesystem" <Riddell> tvo: I havn't found a patch from you <tvo> oh I dropped a link in this channel a while ago.. nm, I'll move the HTML and then send a patch <Riddell> could you e-mail me the link too so I have it for when I update kdebase (tomorrow with any luck) <tvo> ok <Riddell> with inotify can you not just say "watch all files under this directory"? <tvo> no, I read somewhere they didn't make it like that because it would require unpredictable amount's of kernel memory <tvo> if one doesn't know the depth of the tree <Riddell> hmm <Riddell> kinday limits its usefulness <tvo> btw, I should correct my status report about inotify locate: I think it shouldn't be needed to keep this entire tree in memory, so user memory wouldn't be a problem. Just kernel memory (ie. number of watches times sizeof(struct inotify_watch)). <tvo> I've started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate about rlocate / inotify enabled locate <Riddell> maybe that should be a breezy + 1 goal <tvo> yeah, that would be doable I think <Riddell> so...any plans to port google suggest support to the konqueror google plugin?? <Riddell> you know you want to <tvo> didn't even look at it :o, will do in a minute (after patch) if you want <Riddell> somewhere on kde-apps.org there's a google toolbar for konqueror <Riddell> far too many features but having google suggest support in the search bar is really fun <Riddell> probably not too difficult to rip that out and add it to the normal konqueror google search plugin <tvo> if it's basically just a google.com?blah=foo link, then it's a matter of minutes to make a .desktop file.. <Riddell> naw, it's a nifty drop down box <tvo> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1726 <tvo> accidentally I uninstalled kio-locate from my kdedev account, but SourceForge will do in the screenie :) <tvo> ( it takes the default search provider ) <Riddell> yeah, I think that's the best layout for it <Riddell> (going by screenshots rather than actually using it) <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/searchbar.diff <-- patch (searchbar at top) <tvo> basically, it shows the default searchprovider there, or the old about:konqueror page if none is selected as default * tvo looks at GoogleBar now <Riddell> did you find googlebar? <tvo> I still had the tarball in my soc folder ;) <Riddell> it's got far too many features, but the google suggest is just so cool <tvo> ah ok, you mean this auto-completion like feature? <Riddell> yep <tvo> and you want the suggest feature in the "default" searchbar? <Riddell> in the normal konqueror google plugin yes <tvo> it's "default searchprovider" which by default, is google. You can change it to any other webshortcut <tvo> hmm the Google logo doesn't change if you choose another <tvo> Riddell: happen to know the KDE source module which contains this google plugin? <Riddell> in Settings->Configure Extentions it's called Google Bar Plugin <Riddell> kdeaddons? <Riddell> kdeaddons/konq-plugins/searchbar/ I think it is <tvo> ok, I'll checkout the SVN <tvo> yeah it seems to be that one <Riddell> tvo: while you're hacking that code another wishlist I have is for the google search bar to display all the time, not just on webpages <tvo> something with the profiles probably.. <tvo> I'll look at it <Riddell> just incase you wanted to fulfil my every desire :) <tvo> won't make that anyways :-) still like 8 search engines on my todo list ;-) <tvo> but it's still 2 days SoC <tvo> so I have time :o <Riddell> anything else we should discuss tonight? <tvo> hmm, do you use a todo list manager? I was looking for a better one than kwrite today.. <Riddell> I don't, does kontact provide one? <Riddell> I know some kde groups share todo lists with kontact and kolab <tvo> I don't know, I started looking today (used kwrite all the time until now) <tvo> found KOrganizer does have one <tvo> I'm trying it out right now <tvo> I also asked at a forum but I'd probably too much wishes, because even bugzilla was mentioned :p <tvo> s/I'd/I had/ <tvo> back on topic: I don't think there's much more to discuss.. * tvo compiles kdeaddons #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-04 <hunger> The Ksysguard applet is broken once again since yesterday. Did somebody change something there? I doubt it, but I did not touch that config here for month now. <pef> hi <pef> can someone explains me how to use qmake with cdbs ? I can't find debian/rules files samples <dholbach> hi <dholbach> do you have a launchpad team for kubuntu registered yet? <dholbach> is it "kubuntu-workforce" or something? <dholbach> ah no... must be somebody else <dholbach> would be nice if you registered a team and bugs could be assigned to that team <dholbach> jdub might set up a mailing list for those bugs <tvo> Riddell: ping <verwilst> Riddell: ping -f <tvo> Riddell: ping <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/googlebar.diff * tvo sends a mail too <verwilst> tvo: what is it? :d <tvo> verwilst: modification to searchbar plugin so that it has google suggest <verwilst> oh <tvo> ie if you type a word, wait a bit, it loads possible completions from google suggest <verwilst> i'm trying to package kdelibs :d <tvo> instead of a history <verwilst> 3.4.90 <verwilst> but it fails, damned <verwilst> in apidox <tvo> what kind of errors do you get? <verwilst> well, at first it failed <verwilst> i updated some files from svn <verwilst> and then it didn't fail anymore <verwilst> but now it loops <tvo> the build process? <verwilst> it just keeps on making the apidox <verwilst> yip <tvo> weird.. <verwilst> idd :d <verwilst> sucky, spent days on it :p <tvo> i've got an SVN from 1 or 2 weeks before 3.5 alpha, kdelibs compiled fine.. <tvo> but I have to go.. dinner is waiting <tvo> Riddell: did you receive google suggest patch? <Riddell> tvo: yep, is it against kde 3.4 or 3.5? <tvo> SVN, approx. 3.5 <Riddell> ok doke <Riddell> doesn't look like I'll get near compiling kdebase today though <Riddell> manjana manjana <tvo> manjana ? <Riddell> maana with accents * Riddell is in spain <tvo> I know the latter, though I don't what manjana means :(. but have to for some time- bbl <Riddell> manjana is maana without an accent <tvo> heh, I came that far ;-) <tvo> it means tommorow isn't it ? (looked it up) <Riddell> yes, the spanish say it a lot <tvo> s/tommorow/tomorrow/ <tvo> I've never been in spain.. <Riddell> you should come, we're here all week <tvo> heh, would be pretty last minute :-) <tvo> only coding marathon remaining isn't it? <Riddell> yes <tvo> would be cool to do unsermake -j 50 as you said a while ago :p <Riddell> which reminds me, need icecream packages <tvo> doubt it'll be possible though (if it was serious invite :p) <tvo> what's icecream? <Riddell> distcc/teambuilder alike, manages the -j 50 part <tvo> ah, remembers me I need to convince my family to use linux too, so I can setup a distcc network :) <tvo> yo figured out how to enable searchbar in filemgr mode <Riddell> cool <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/googlebar_filemgr.diff <tvo> e-mail too? <tvo> meh, will do with little explanation.. <Riddell> thanks <tvo> Riddell: ok, mail sent <Riddell> tvo: I need to report back on you <tvo> Riddell: did google already sent a mail, or just internally (ubuntu) ? <Riddell> "How they are doing on the whole, are they motivated, competant, eager and involved?" <Riddell> google sent an e-mail to ubuntu which has been passed on to me <Riddell> I recon you pass all of those <Riddell> "If they have delivered any usable code" I recon that too <tvo> cool <Riddell> "Do you consider that they have earned their reward in the end?" <Riddell> I can say yes to that but you'll owe me a pint :) <tvo> heh, if once I meet you in real life :) <tvo> s/if// <Riddell> are your findings about inotify locate public somewhere googleable? <tvo> only https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate <tvo> additionally I could up my test code and link to it <tvo> ( C++ / STL ) <Riddell> ah yes, groovy <tvo> ok, will do <Riddell> tvo: I guess the main issue with your project was that you wanted to make locate ioslave but that was already done <Riddell> tvo: have you passed all the changes back to the original author? <tvo> almost, have not yet sent a mail about 0.2 to Armin, it's on my todo <Riddell> would it be possible to run locate ioslave from the konqueror "google" plugin when in file manager mode? <tvo> since he wanted to add it to KDE extragear, I plan to talk with him about releasing a normal (0.5, 1.0?) version and put it on extragear at same time <tvo> yes, that's pretty easy <Riddell> does that need code changes? <tvo> one else {} block after the if (htmlPart) <Riddell> a patch for that would be groovy <Verwilst> Riddell: !!! hellow! <tvo> Riddell: mind if I delay that till tomorrow? or are you packaging now? <Riddell> Verwilst: dood <Riddell> tvo: tomorrow is fine <tvo> ok will do, check your mail at lunchtime or so :) <Verwilst> dood means dead in my language :p :p <Riddell> Verwilst: live! <Verwilst> but "oo" is pronounced like oa, as in loaf <Verwilst> :d <Verwilst> </dutch lesson> * tvo is dutch too <Verwilst> i'm not dutch ;) <Verwilst> but belgian :p * tvo speaks dutch too :) <Verwilst> Riddell: heard of my little kdelibs probbies? :d <tvo> anyway, i'm off to bed, g'night everyone <Verwilst> see ya <Riddell> Verwilst: remind me again <Verwilst> Riddell: hehe <Verwilst> well, i built arts :p <Verwilst> but been hving troubles with kdelibs ever since <Verwilst> apidox to be exact <Verwilst> first it failed <Verwilst> saying QTDOCDIR didn't exist and stuffs <Verwilst> i bugged coolo and stuffs <Verwilst> then got some files from admin/ from trunk 3.5 <Verwilst> then it built apidox <Verwilst> but it just looped over and over, building apidox again and again <Verwilst> :( <Riddell> hmm, rather evil <Riddell> this is using debian packaging? <Riddell> debian/kubuntu packaging <Riddell> have you tried compiling it without the packaging? <Riddell> are you using unsermake? <Verwilst> it's debian packaging yep <Verwilst> no, not without packaging, was going to try that next, but had some exams :d <Verwilst> and i'm using unsermake <Riddell> might be worth trying the packaging without unsermake <Verwilst> yips <Verwilst> why did we use unsermake anyways? <Verwilst> i'll probably need to edit a rules file or something eh? <Verwilst> ( still pretty new to debian packaging, but i'm getting the hang of it ;) ) <Riddell> 1) nicer compiler output 2) faster parallel compile 3) testing it <Riddell> edit debian/rules, comment out the unsermake line. re-do make -f debian/rules buildprep <Riddell> 3) because unsermake is required for KDE 4 so we need to move towards it anyway <Verwilst> yeah, well, i'll retry unsermake when the beta's here :) <pef> Riddell: hi <Riddell> pef: yo <pef> Riddell: have you spent nice holidays ? ;) <Riddell> pef: you're another one who never told me you were going for membership <Verwilst> Riddell: make -f debian/rules buildprep ? <Riddell> pef: very nice thanks <Riddell> Verwilst: that runs make -f admin/makefile.common <Verwilst> when should this be done in other cases? <Verwilst> ah <Riddell> Verwilst: it needs to be done when Makefile.am files are changed (or when changing buildsystem as we are here) <pef> Riddell: I wasn't sure myself, have confirmed this morning <Riddell> oh and make sure you uninstall unsermake <Verwilst> so i can't just re-run make -f admin/makefile.common? <Riddell> Verwilst: you can but make -f debian/rules buildprep does some extra cleaning or something <Verwilst> okido :) thanks <Verwilst> i'll try it again tomorrow :) <Verwilst> goodnight! <Verwilst> oh, and your kdesu patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore :) <Verwilst> but i'm going to try and build kdelibs without it first <Verwilst> and afterwards fixup the patch <pef> Riddell: have you a package using qmake in mind ? <Verwilst> bye! <Riddell> pef: we have had packages that use qmake but I can't think of any off hand <pef> Riddell: do you know an apt-get way to get on of them ? I can't find one #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-05 <Riddell> I'm surrounded by KDE hackers and not one of them knows a project which uses qmake <pef> :D <Riddell> pef: psi, qca-tls <pef> Riddell: thanks ! <fromoze> OT- Little question <fromoze> Have the devs of Kubuntu ever think about Yast4Debian ? <Riddell> fromoze: I have thought about it. havn't seen any working packages and I suspect it's not worth the effort <fromoze> ok :) <fromoze> thanks, I was curious about :D <Riddell> 90% of yast use is package installation and the porting of that means we might as well write our own package manager <Riddell> which is what we're doing <pef> I leave, good night ! * mode/#kubuntu-devel [-s] by ChanServ <hunger> Anything special to test for the next kubuntu release? <verwilst> Riddell: ping? <verwilst> tried with make, same prob :$ <verwilst> Riddell: http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=47615 <pef> hello <verwilst> i'm trying to build the latest snapshot now, hoping it'll be fine now <verwilst> raise ("two targets named '%s' define rules!" % self.target) <verwilst> two targets named 'apidox' define rules! <verwilst> make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-build] Fout 1 <verwilst> goddamned * tvo sends an e-mail to Riddell <opi> Hi <opi> anyone has Amu's mobile number? ;) <opi> or know why he's on IDLE all the time :) <tvo> no. who's Amu? ;) <opi> ;-> <opi> You Should Know Him <tvo> ah, a quick google helped ;) still don't have his number though :) <tvo> Riddell: patch e-mail received? <Riddell> "Subject: KDE googlebar searchbar and about:konqueror patches" <Riddell> any idea if they'll apply to 3.4.2 as well? <tvo> not tested, but I doubt searchbar plugin and about:konqueror generation changed much <tvo> lemme check svn <tvo> meh, about:konq searchbar did change a bit this year, so it's risky <tvo> s/searchbar // <tvo> damn, no <tvo> entire function I changed was new in July or something..... <tvo> Riddell: I'd say no to both unless I check / hand-apply first <tvo> :( <Riddell> bah <tvo> I don't mind checking but not today - temperature's to high, need to do some outside things. after that it's poker time :) <tvo> memo / e-mail / PM / whatever me if you'd like it checked <tvo> i'll go now.. <tvo> bye <pef> anyone has tested qt4-designer ? what's your opinion ? <pef> s/someone/anyone/ <Riddell> pef: are you using the packages from breezy? <pef> Riddell: yes <Riddell> pef: work OK? <pef> Riddell: yes, nothing special, but what's going on with menu and code editor ? not finished ? <Riddell> menu and code editor? <Riddell> in qt4 designer? <pef> Riddell: yes <Riddell> pef: I think they removed any code editing stuff since it was only a very poor attempt at an IDE <pef> Riddell: and the menu editor part ? <Riddell> not sure what that is <m-fox> hi, I think the dependencies in kde 3.4.2 are wrong, because if I try to update, I get a lot of new applications and those cluttered kde-menus that should be prevented in kubuntu. <pef> bye ! <hunger> kopete always segfaults when quitting. <hunger> and the ksysguard applets are broken once again:_( <m-fox> hunger: there seems to be no developer here at the moment <hunger> m-fox: Damn... I'll end up having to write bugreports then;-) <hunger> Well... there should be some about those issues anyway. They are around for long enough;-) <m-fox> I suffer with you ;) <Riddell> m-fox: yethe dependencies are because they have changed for breezy but those changes havn't been backported to the backports <m-fox> Riddell: so breezy will install all kde applications by default? Or will that change later? <hunger> Riddell: How was the show? Or are you still abroad? <m-fox> sorry, I misunderstud <Riddell> m-fox: no, but the seeds have changed. in hoary seeds said "we want kdebase, kdegraphics etc" and I changed kdebase and kdegraphics to bring in the programs for kubuntu <Riddell> in breezy I changed the seeds to "we want konsole, konqueror, kpdf, gwenview" and changed kdebase and kdegraphics back to their kde defaults <m-fox> Riddell: Will there be an update to the backports? <Riddell> hunger: which show? I'm in spain this week <Riddell> m-fox: I doubt it <Riddell> m-fox: apt-get upgrade wouldn't bring in anything new <hunger> Riddell: akademy <Riddell> hunger: lots of talking <Riddell> I've had about zero time for anything besides yet <hunger> Riddell: I bet:-) Wish I would have been there. <hunger> Riddell: Maybe I can make it to the linux-congress in hamburg. <hunger> Riddell: I know that feeling... at one show I even forgot to eat;-) <m-fox> Riddell: I could go for that, but shouldn't I generally use dist-upgrade? <Riddell> m-fox: dist upgrade is always considered more risky <m-fox> Riddell: ok, thank you for the help <Riddell> hunger: that's a conference yes? <m-fox> a proposition for breezy: Would it be possible to have gtk2-engines-qt installed by default and have gtk2 use the kde-style and the kde-fonts by default (also for root because of sudo)? <Riddell> m-fox: I'd love for that but gtk-qt-engine crashes horribly with cairo gtk <Riddell> anyone coming to montreal? #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-06 <pef> morning <m-fox> morning <Tm_T> hi kids <Riddell> hi Tm_T <Tm_T> ah, mr Riddel :) <Tm_T> +l <Tm_T> I blame keyboard <Tm_T> any knowledge about release date? <Tm_T> yeah, I mean breezy ;) <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule october 13th <Tm_T> ...and with Kubuntu? =) <Riddell> same <Riddell> so we'll miss KDE 3.5 <Tm_T> oh, ok <Tm_T> it will be packaged as soon as possible then <Tm_T> ok thanks <Riddell> yes it will <Tm_T> good to know <Tm_T> bah, got enough of this latencyhell, off -> <Riddell> yo tvo <tvo> yo Riddell <Riddell> tvo: seen kio-beagle? <tvo> Riddell: no, though I recall I read about it a while ago.. <tvo> probably in kde-devel <Riddell> of course you'd probably have to get beagle working first to test it out, and that isn't necessarily easy <Riddell> tvo: are you planning on porting your google extention patches to kde 3.4? <tvo> no, I planned on testing it until I read it has problems on ReiserFS partitions, thats what most of my partitions are :( <tvo> that's ok, shouldn't be too easy (re: porting to kde 3.4) <tvo> *too difficult <tvo> arg <tvo> I'll test beagle on my breezy test partition, that's ext3 <Riddell> good luck, I could never get it working <Riddell> but maybe the ubuntu packages have improved <tvo> hehe, ok, I should try anyway <tvo> Riddell: is kat still in development? <tvo> s/kat/katapult/ <Riddell> not much done on katapult for a while, I'd still like to get round to it but may not be able to before breezy <tvo> it's in berlios isn't it? <Riddell> I'd definatly like to make a breezy + 1 spec for it, then maybe someone will get a bounty <Riddell> yes, berlios <tvo> I should check it out and implement some of the features I myself added to the wiki, because technically they look a lot like the patches I made recently <Riddell> if anyone has good projects that would make kubuntu cool and wants a bounty for them tell me so we can get a spec <tvo> will do, I'll certainly keep developing for KDE/Qt, their codebase is extremely good * tvo remembers the optional bounty ;) <tvo> Riddell: what do you know about LaptopTestingTeam ? <tvo> I got curious because my uni keeps trying to convince students to get a laptop :) * tvo ports his googlebar* patches <Riddell> tvo: "No new laptops are being sent out" <tvo> :( <Riddell> keep your eye open I guess, they may do it again at some point <tvo> Riddell: is it right kdeaddons 3.4.2 wasn't packaged for hoary? <tvo> it's not a problem though I grab tarballs directly from KDE <Riddell> tvo: ah yes, that's waiting on kdebase which is what I'm about to look at <tvo> I'll backport the searchbar and see if that gives any problems * tvo wonders why he has a googlebar without having installed kdeaddons * tvo compiles KDE 3.4.2 with backported googlebar <Riddell> tvo: you probably have konq-plugins, not the whole kdeaddons <tvo> Riddell: ah that explains it <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/googlebar_backport_total.diff <Riddell> tvo: you kick arse <tvo> it's 00-02 googlebar patches combined including a 3.5->3.4.2 backpot <tvo> seems to work here <tvo> :) <tvo> Riddell: do we want about:konqueror patch in 3.4.2 too? <Riddell> tvo: ooh, yes please <Riddell> that shouldn't have changed though <tvo> by looking at SVN, it seemed easier yes. <tvo> did you already test it? <tvo> (in 3.4.2 that is) <tvo> anyway, I'll test if the patch applies without warnings. If it needs a backport things are *hard* because testing kdebase it isn't as easy as kdeaddons. <tvo> ( or rather, kdebase just takes 80x more time to compile ) <Riddell> did I mention that the icecream cluster here is very nice? :) <tvo> ok I patch, you compile :) <Riddell> deal <tvo> as you said, it hasn't changed much. patch applies with +2 lines offset for two hunks of last file <tvo> Riddell: quickly scanned through the code, seems ok <tvo> Riddell: i'd say, compile 'n test <tvo> just discovered a minor memleak in my patch :( <tvo> want a new patch or a patch on top of this patch? <Riddell> new patch <tvo> ok <tvo> btw, is that in general (rather replacement patch than patch-stack) ? <tvo> or only with bugfixes ? <Riddell> whole new patch <Riddell> tvo: 00-ak_searchbar_bot.diff and 00-ak_searchbar_top.diff seem to overlap <Riddell> oh wait, that's deliberate <Riddell> ignore me <tvo> :) <tvo> Riddell: want both top and bottom or just top? <Riddell> just top, ignore me <tvo> Riddell: ok, memleak-fixed is @ http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/00-ak_searchbar_top_memleak_fixed.diff <tvo> Riddell: another subject: what (for) are regression logs ? <Riddell> tvo: where's that? <tvo> on packages.ubuntu.com <tvo> there's "build logs" and "regression test" for each package <tvo> I noticed "regression test" is -failed for many packages, just have no clue what it is :) <tvo> the logs look just like a build.... <Riddell> the build log is the result of what happens after someone uploads the source package and the build daemons build it <Riddell> regression tests I havn't seen before but it looks like random rebuilds of packages to make sure they still build <tvo> sounds plausible :) <tvo> once KDE 3.5 is out I'll check them to see if UDS_HIDDEN was properly detected <Riddell> tvo: how do you mean detected? <tvo> Riddell: I modified bksys to autodetect the presence of my patch in KDE and add a -D switch in the case it's present <Riddell> ooh, fancy <Riddell> how does it detect it? <tvo> so as soon as kio-locate gets rebuild with 3.5 the uds_hidden feature is present <tvo> that's less fancy :) <tvo> it does a "cat $KDE_INCLUDE_DIR/kio/global.h" and checks if the string UDS_HIDDEN is therein <Riddell> good solution :) <tvo> if ita is right I can make it faster using python instead of cat (bksys == python), but i'm not yet a python guru, so I could not yet figure out how :) <Riddell> I shouldn't imagine it would make any noticable difference <tvo> and it's not really a time critical part of the software :) <tvo> that's why i only spent like 5 minutes trying.. <tvo> night #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-07 <pef> morning <lamont-away> where does one file kubuntu bugs these days, I wonder <lamont-away> looks like bz still is love <lamont-away> #14558, if there happens to be a kdelibs upload between now and release. <apokryphos> is there a 3.5 alpha repo, then? <Riddell> lamont-away: so kdelibs needs to be build with gcc 3.4 then? <Riddell> apokryphos: there's no 3.5 repo <apokryphos> Riddell: ok, so just being built <apokryphos> seems a shame since beta is coming out soon ;-) <pef> bye ! <jpatrick> soon #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-08 <lamont-away> Riddell: on hppa (and the others on that web page), it needs to use g{cc,++}-3.4 <pef> hello <Riddell> \sh_away: is it just me or is pykde broken? <fromoze> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPeople <-- Ridell I change Contact in IRC... but I'm not sure about my english :) <tvo> Riddell: ping <tvo> Riddell: nm, unping <tvo> btw, kompose is kool :) #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-09 <pef> bye ! <lamont> moo <pef> hi <tvo> http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000130 <jpatrick> Oh cool <OculusAquilae> hm, cool <pef> hi <jpatrick> hello <lamont> Riddell: since there is a lot of kde in it, and just in case y'all are doing uploads anytime soon, the list of packages that probably (failed in debian) need gcc-3.4 [hppa...] is: ace aleph ecos kbear kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kile krename kst libcrypto++ log4cxx okle orbit2cpp qdbm sfs socketapi texmacs <Riddell> lamont-away: nasty <lamont-away> yeah.... for that matter, one could opportunistically just do it to all of kde. :-( <lamont-away> anyway, must run. <blastradius> hi people <jpatrick> hi #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-10 <pef> hi <seaLne> hi, does anyone know much about the kdebindings package? <Riddell> seaLne: kdebindings isn't the best maintained package around <Riddell> seaLne: the ruby issue or something else? <seaLne> yeah ruby <seaLne> the package is a bit to complicated for me to understand why bkconfig_compiler isn't being compiled and installed * Riddell sets off a kdebindings compile #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-11 <AnHu> sorry, I know it isn't a bug platform, but my problem is: Gaim doesn't start in system tray after rebooting (in newest Breezy and Hoary) <AnHu> Is that a KDE or Kubuntu bug? <hunger> Automounting my usb stick fails once again in KDE: It is mounted automagically on /media/usbdisk, but konqueror tries to open /media/sdb1 which does not exist. <hunger> Doesen't look like a KDE problem actually, more like ubuntu changing. <Riddell> hunger: what's your (k)ubuntu install? <verwilst> hello <verwilst> hello Riddell <OculusAquilae> i have the same problem with konqueror/kde and my usb-stick <OculusAquilae> hello verwilst <seaLne> i found that with hoary->breezy but my colony3 breezy install works fine <verwilst> hi <OculusAquilae> i have an install from the snapshot yesterday * tvo is running colony-3 with daily apt-get upgrades <tvo> Riddell: there's a minor issue with the xrandr patch: if you do the same rotation multiple times in a row from cli, the bug which it is supposed to fix, still occurs. There's no way (afaik) to do this through the gui though, so I don't consider it really serious <pef> hi <Riddell> tvo: what's your e-mail address <Riddell> (my e-mail is broken) <tvo> Riddell: tobivollebregt()gmail.com <Riddell> tvo: could you resend your last report to me please <tvo> Riddell: mail sent <tvo> btw, have you seen Mez lately? <Riddell> I have not <Riddell> thanks for resend <tvo> I might as well drop him an e-mail ( I want to be added to katapult on berlios ) <tvo> np <Riddell> katapult, cool :) <tvo> I got so used to it on hoary, but it has an uptime of like 3 sec on breezy :s <tvo> so it needs fixing <verwilst> hellow Riddell ! <verwilst> i'm going to try and package beta1 when it's out :$ <verwilst> hopefully with a bit more success <Riddell> verwilst: cool <\sh> grmpf...kxdocker must be handsynced from debian :( <Riddell> \sh: why? <\sh> old libqt3c102-mt build-dep <\sh> a normaly elmo sync wouldn't help <Riddell> tsk, file a report to debian saying it should depend on libqt3-dev <\sh> will do <\sh> ah http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=325635 <verwilst> will kubuntu breezy have something update-notifier-like for kde? <\sh> if I have the time during shtoomvoip I will play with the gnome source and port it to kde... <Riddell> verwilst: possibly, but adept is the main target just now <verwilst> coolness <\sh> Riddell: adept? <verwilst> i'm curious where adept will go to when it's grown up :d <Riddell> \sh: new package manager <verwilst> currently i don't like the interface, but things have a way of getting refined bit by bit when they mature <\sh> uh...ok...so I don't have to care about the old stuff ,-) <verwilst> i once had some screenshots from a incredibly nice frontend <verwilst> but i forgot which distro had it :( <verwilst> i remember it as slack <verwilst> but doesn't seem so :p <Riddell> linspire? <verwilst> well yeah, something like that.. <verwilst> but it wasn't exactly the same <verwilst> but more in the line of CnR then the listview thingies :) <verwilst> *than <Riddell> CnR is surprisingly nice. it has issues but there's a lot to learn from there <seaLne> CnR? <Riddell> click and run <seaLne> ah <verwilst> yip <verwilst> would be cool to have for kubuntu ;) <verwilst> anyways, i'm off to home, see ya! <KabelKasper> Riddell: Hi, I saw you talking about package-manager layouts. Please have a look on Xandros-Networks too: http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks1.png http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks2.png I like it ;) <pef> have to go, bye ! #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-12 <pef> hi <Tm_T> hmm <Mez> Riddell: ping <Mez> ?Riddell: what happened to my account on dev.kubutnu.org.uk <tvo> Mez: could you add me as developer to berlios katapult ? <Mez> tvo: username? <tvo> Mez: tvo <Mez> done <tvo> yo thanks <Riddell> Mez: I got kicked off that machine <Mez> Riddell: howcome? <Mez> and your account still seems to be there <Mez> (or is that cause you've got it on a new machine now <Riddell> Mez: dunno, still trying to get in contact with the owners <Riddell> Mez: how does my accounts still seem to be there? <seaLne> Riddell: the kdebindings in ubuntu where did they come from? the debian settings in the default dist of kdebindings use /usr/lib and have Qt.rb <seaLne> (default dist == tarball from kde mirror) <lamont> Riddell: for kde fun and joy, see http://buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/Lists/breezy.all.hppa. there are _many_ kde packages that need ICE love per that URL from earlier. <Riddell> lamont: have you tested any packages (like kdelibs) with 3.4? is there somewhere I can test them? <lamont> I haven't - just going with the kde agenda from debian * lamont doesn't use kde, but the kids school looked at kubuntu before going with suse * lamont still needs to track down someone to tell him the answer to "why" <Riddell> seaLne: the kdebindings is a newer version than in debian, but the packaging is much the same <seaLne> Riddell: i mean between the debian dir in the tarball of the kdebindings sources <seaLne> and the ubuntu version <Riddell> seaLne: ignore the debian directory from KDE, they're always out of date <Riddell> but ruby in kdebindings 3.4.2 wants to use /usr/local which it gets from ruby-config or something (see configure.in.in) and I can't see a way to change that <seaLne> k, i hadn't look much closer than the differences between them <hunger> Hi Riddel. <Riddell> seaLne: have you tried the package with adding debian/tmp/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/Qt.rb to debian/libkorundum0-ruby1.8.install ? <hunger> Are you aware that the usb-stick magic is broken once again? <Riddell> hunger: yeah, it's stopped talking to HAL for some reason, need to investigate that post-preview <hunger> It does get automounted as /media/usbstick, while konqui tries to access sdb1. <hunger> Riddell: Good, thanks for the info. <hunger> Riddell: The ksysguardapplet broke once again, too. Apart from that things work great for me. <seaLne> Riddell: yeah except libqt0-ruby1.8.install not korundum <Riddell> hunger: panel applet? <Riddell> seaLne: good point. does that solve most of the issues (apart from /usr/local being against policy) <seaLne> that solves ruby/qt not working <seaLne> still can't see what should/isn't compiling rbkconfig_compiler tho which is annoying as i'm wanting to use it <hunger> Riddell: Called KSysGuard in the Add-to-Pannel->Applet menue. <hunger> Riddell: You can Drag n drop Ksysguard sensors onto it. <hunger> Riddell: The only way to monitor cpufreq on the KDE panel I found so far. <Riddell> seaLne: what is rbkconfig_compiler? <seaLne> to use kconfigxt with korundum <Riddell> seaLne: hoary or breezy? <seaLne> breezy <Riddell> my compile has a ./debian/tmp/usr/bin/rbkconfig_compiler <Riddell> which I guess should be added to libkorundum0-ruby1.8.install <seaLne> ah so it is compiled, so yeah <Riddell> now if we can work out how to get rbconfig to use /usr and not /usr/local it'll all be sorted <seaLne> Riddell: any chance of mailing/uploading to geeksoc rbkconfig_compiler? save me rebuilding the package <Riddell> seaLne: I only have it for amd64 <seaLne> ah ok <pef> bye #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-13 <\sh> Riddell: kdevelop3: kdevdesigner is not stopping from crashing...any idea? <Tm_T> :o <Riddell> \sh: hmm no, remind me about it post-preview <\sh> Riddell: i just installed the debug libs...lets see where it crashes <Riddell> \sh: could try compiling with gcc 3.4 <\sh> it worked for sometime <\sh> grmpf..need the qt dbgs as well ;) <\sh> Riddell: I can send the crash report via email... <Riddell> \sh: do you have amd64 or powerpc at all? <\sh> i386 only <Riddell> testers wanted for preview http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050908.1/ <\sh> downloading and testing later...I have to test it on the laptop :( <\sh> and have to tweak the initrd :( <Riddell> why do you have to tweak initrd? <\sh> i have to do a network install <\sh> and for this, I need a special marvel yukon driver, which is not in the kernel <\sh> sk98lin driver, the kernel provided skge doesn't support my NIC <Riddell> sebas: got guidance working! <sebas> Riddell: Great! <sebas> Do you have the kcontrol entries? <sebas> I've been playing around with it yesterday, displayconfig seems to work (from kcontrol), the others not yet here. <sebas> Updated to breezy yesterday, though. <Riddell> sebas: displayconfig doesn't work at all for me, I get this error <Riddell> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/357985 <Riddell> the others I have to add this to the .desktop file Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system; <sebas> Riddell: Ah, you'd need the ldetect stuff. <sebas> Could you e-mail me the .desktop files? <Riddell> sebas: what's the ldetect stuff? <Riddell> sebas: .desktop files are just those in current SVN with that line at the bottom <sebas> pci device database. <Riddell> icons need to be available in more sizes <sebas> Hm, just adding the Categories line doesn't help here. <sebas> /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System/mountconfig.desktop <sebas> In that file, right? <Riddell> sebas: no, in /usr/share/applications/kde/mountconfig.desktop <Riddell> same file though <sebas> Ah, thx. <Riddell> sebas: could I get access to the SVN repository (probably for updating the debian directory)? <sebas> Riddell: I'm about to move it to kdesvn, do you have access there? <sebas> In the meantime, could you checkout and e-mail me the patch? <Riddell> sebas: I do. sorted. <sebas> I'll import it into kdesvn in the next days, though. <sebas> Have to clean up a couple of bits first :> <Riddell> no patch yet, but now that it's working I'll try and get it in the ubuntu archives <sebas> Cool :) <sebas> Hm, the mountconfig kcontrol module doesn't load, does it for you? <sebas> userconfig and serviceconfig do <Riddell> lo <Riddell> loads fine, it's a bit slow to load though <sebas> Hm, ok. <sebas> When did you update to latest svn? <sebas> I've done some fixes in Spain that might be worth using <Riddell> sebas: serviceconfig and userconfig don't close when I click the window's X close button, mountconfig does (not running inside kcontrol) <sebas> caching of servicedescriptions for serviceconfig being one of them <sebas> Ok, I'll have a look. <Riddell> sebas: where are the service descriptions got from? <sebas> dpkg <Riddell> genius :) <sebas> It's a bit ugly, admittedly, but there are no (localized) generic descriptions available anywhere... <Riddell> still no way to tell if it's running I guess <sebas> Right. :( <sebas> At least for the services that don't leave a .pid file anywhere. <Riddell> I envision a post breezy ImproveInitScripts goal <sebas> Bounty!!! <sebas> :> <Riddell> yep :) <sebas> We'd like status and a localiz(ed|able) description for every service. <sebas> GST has the same description problem, but they didn't reply to my e-mails. <Riddell> sebas: any other plans you think we should try to make post-breezy goals? (which means they might get bountied) * sebas thinks. <Riddell> any other guidance modules you think should be written? <Riddell> I think a graphical visudo would be good <sebas> Yeah, we'd need some powermanagement module (PM in kcontrol is bad crap atm), and a *good* keyboard config module. <sebas> Graphical visudo is more or less adding users to a certain group, right? <sebas> At least, you could do it that way ... <Riddell> yes, it would be nice if userconfig had tickboxes for "administrator" which would put them in the admin group (which by default has full sudo on kubuntu systems) <Riddell> but a graphical interface to the sudoers file would still be nice <sebas> Riddell: I've discussed that with Jan, a lot of the group stuff could be replaced by "[ ] Is allowed to burn CD", "[x] May gain root privileges", "[x] May use digital camera" and so on. <Riddell> sebas: yes! <Riddell> of course that starts to get more distribution specific but it would be a lot more logical to the user <sebas> Well, that's more or less on our "add to todolist list" :) <sebas> I'm awaiting Jan's final report, though. <sebas> Yeah, but it'd add a hell of a lot of fun :> <sebas> And it's quite easy to extend, just have some data structure which maps a sentence like that to a group a user can be added to. * sebas pours coffee. <Riddell> sebas: how is the distribution detection done? the message "This could be a Debian GNU/Linux-based system. ( Ubuntu )" doesn't sound like it's very convinced <sebas> /etc/issue reveals that on most distros. <Riddell> /etc/lsb-release might be more reliable <sebas> I can add that. <sebas> Riddell: Seems that most distros don't have /etc/lsb-release <\sh> sebas: because most distris are not lsb compliant ,) <Riddell> sebas: tsk, don't these things know about standards <sebas> \sh: Yeah, I figured that already :> <Riddell> well give it a year or two and I assume they will <sebas> I can add a check, sure. <sebas> First I have to prepare my presentation for software freedom day and install this website for a customer. <seaLne> Riddell: err installing kubuntu seems to have killed my mac, its making an extremly loud high pitched noise after it said it was about to reboot for the second part.... :-/ <Riddell> seaLne: not a good sign <seaLne> Riddell: it was just after it wrote the yaboot stuff and i think it may have rebooted before starting to make that noise <seaLne> it dosen't do anything when turned on except make the noise now <Riddell> seaLne: I'm installing now on an ibook and it's not getting that problem <seaLne> lucky you <seaLne> :-/ <seaLne> this was an smp blue G4 <Riddell> seaLne: is the machine dead beyond repair? <seaLne> well its certainly currently useless, and i don't see how to change that :-( <Riddell> seaLne: can it boot off another CD? <seaLne> no, it just dosen't do anything apart from make the deafening noise otherwise it appears dead <Riddell> crivvens, sounds like a fried firmware <Riddell> can you boot holding down control-apple-o-f to get to openfirmware? <seaLne> didn't try that, i'll try tommorow when i'm back in work <Riddell> or alt-apple-p-r should reload the openfirmware #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-14 <Riddell> anyone alive? <tarvid> i've got myself in a bit of a pickle <tarvid> ran apt-get upgrade on a breezy machine and blew up postfix <tarvid> any way of backing out of this mess? * ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu <hunger> Does kubuntu make use of avahi? <seaLne> hunger: there is a apckage for it <hunger> seaLne: Yeap... but is kubuntu's KDE able to use it? <hunger> seaLne: The KDE site claims that 3.4.x can if build with the proper options. <hunger> seaLne: Default is the apple implementation from what I understand. <seaLne> sorry i don't know any more about it try asking in #kubuntu <Riddell> hunger: no, there avahi code for KDE was written earlier this week and I havn't had a chance to look at it yet <Riddell> s/there/the/ <pef> hello ! <Riddell> hi pef <OculusAquilae> hi, is it known, that the "Administrator Mode" ein kde-systemsettings is still not working in breezy? <sebas> It works for me though. <Riddell> it's intermittent <Riddell> it's a horrible beastie <sebas> That makes debugging a lot of fun. ;-) <OculusAquilae> sebas: it works, when you have used kdesu with sudo before <OculusAquilae> but after reboot it doesn't work anymore <OculusAquilae> (my experience) <OculusAquilae> maybe wrong <sebas> Hm, what's "reboot"? ;-) <sebas> (Sorry, couldn't resist) <OculusAquilae> sebas :-) * sebas . shower() <OculusAquilae> sebas: thats something normal users do :-) <sebas> Hm, you mean they don't know suspend? <sebas> Ok, have to do some "offline stuff" ... :o <OculusAquilae> k <OculusAquilae> Riddell: wouldn't it be nice to invert the "Reset" and the "Apply"- Button in kde-systemsettings <Riddell> OculusAquilae: hmm, yes <OculusAquilae> :-) <OculusAquilae> i use everytime the wrong one :-) <tvo> Riddell: ping <Verwilst> hello <Verwilst> the kubuntu preview iso had a bad md5sum for the kernel package :p <Verwilst> so the installation failed :$ <Riddell> tvo: hi <Riddell> Verwilst: i386 install? <Verwilst> yip <Verwilst> Riddell: any solution? i would like to install breezy too :) <Riddell> Verwilst: does the md5sum of the iso match that on the website? <Riddell> have you tried burning it again? <Verwilst> it was a collegue <Verwilst> colleage <Verwilst> whatever <Verwilst> coworker :d <Verwilst> so i don't know the fine bits ) <Verwilst> ;) <Riddell> it installed for me and I havn't had other similar complaints so I assume it would be a bad burn <Verwilst> okido :) <tvo> Riddell: is there a reason the xrandr patch isn't in most recent libqt3-mt? <Riddell> tvo: should be, /me downloads <tvo> Riddell: if it's supposed to be in the .diff, it isn't there (not the gentoo one, just the not fully working KDE qt-copy one) <Riddell> aah, that would be me syncing with debian then <Riddell> 29_qtc_fix_rotated_randr.dpatch is there but the gentoo one is better? <tvo> Riddell: well, the gentoo one did actually work correctly here, an apt-get upgrade of libqt3mt a few days ago broke this behaviour <tvo> Riddell: #8674 <tvo> Riddell: where can I find that 29_*.dpatch file? <Riddell> in current qt-x11-free sources debian/patches <tvo> hmm can't find <tvo> d/l'ed the sources from packages.ubuntu, no debian dir anywhere <Riddell> what did you download? <Riddell> apt-get source qt-x11-free will get it for you into the current directory <tvo> d/l'ed this one--> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/qt-x11-free_3.3.4.orig.tar.gz <Riddell> you also need the .diff and .dsc then `dpkg-source -x *dsc` <Riddell> or just apt-get source <tvo> well, initially I just scanned through the .diff to conclude the patch wasn't there. but i'll just try apt-get source now <tvo> Riddell: ok done, it's the small/KDE/not working one <Riddell> I'm out of disk space, <Riddell> need to delete some files before I can fix this :) <tvo> lol ;) <tvo> anyway, I'll keep you informed about the status of xrandr patch <tvo> it time to go now <tvo> bught <tvo> argh, that was supposed to say: night <tvo> night #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-15 <Mez> Riddell: ping <Mez> need a sponsored main kde upload <Riddell> Mez: hi <Mez> Riddell, http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/breeezy/meta-kde <Mez> sorry <Mez> Riddell, http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/breezy/meta-kde <Mez> Unmet Deps fix <Mez> Just added 2 characters to the control file... can you re-sogn and upload please? <Riddell> kdelibs3-bin, wonder how many people still expect that to be around <Riddell> Mez: meta-kde is universe <Mez> *shrugs* <Mez> Riddell, not according to packages.ubuntu.com <Mez> it was for warty <Mez> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=1&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=meta-kde&searchon=sourcenames <Riddell> ah, in main for kde-core <Mez> :D <Riddell> what's the magic debuild switch to make it signed with my key? <Mez> -kyour@email <Riddell> uploaded, well spotted <Mez> :) <Mez> httos://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps <Mez> :P <Mez> apparently doesnt just pick up universe <Riddell> well kde-core is in universe <Riddell> sorry, kdelibs3-bin is <Mez> lol <Mez> *shrugs* <Mez> thats prob y then <pef> hi <OculusAquilae> hi pef #kubuntu-devel 2005-09-16 <tvo> Riddell: already freed some HD space a.k.a. xrandr qt patch fixed ? ;) <Riddell> tvo: I uploaded a new Qt with the other patch, could you test? <Riddell> 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 <tvo> Riddell: ok, /me tests <Mez> Riddell, are we going to be introducing qt4 in dapper <Riddell> Mez: dapper? <Mez> breezy +1 <Mez> (aka dapper) <Riddell> when did it get that name? <Mez> not been officially announced yet, but, canonical employees have been letting it slip <Riddell> groovy <Riddell> well qt4 will be in when something uses it <Mez> lol <tvo> Riddell: it's working :D <Riddell> tvo: woo! <tvo> btw, Riddell I set up a little SoC website, it would be great if you could proofread it (don't hurry though) --> http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc-2005-nh <tvo> Riddell: i think you can close 8674 now <Riddell> tvo: closed <Riddell> tvo: that SoC page looks good <Riddell> very useful :) <tvo> ok, great, thanks :) <Riddell> anyone want to make a .deb of kdnssd-avahi? <Soneras> Hi Riddel, got a second? <Soneras> Just wanted to ask about the new simplified Konqueror profile. I wrote on the feedback wiki that I'd hope no functionality would be removed from Konqueror completely. That's mostly because to me it's an important app. I guess though that Kubuntu will focus more on people who
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