#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-02
<DoubleB> Hello all.
<az7> hey hey
<DoubleB> sup
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-03
<kwadroke> where does logging go to now days?
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-06
<rangerboy> pretty rowdy bunch tonight...
 * Ahmuck moving to NW AR in May !
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-09
<zillah> hi all
<DoubleB> Hello all
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-16
<TommyT> anybody awake?
<kwadroke_> yeah
<TommyT> any familiarity with tweaking Radeon cards?
<TommyT> I was given a laptop and the stock open Radeon in Ubuntu doesn't sleep right. fglrx doesn't work with it.
<TommyT> there's a program called radeontool that's supposed to let you tweak bits but it apparently does nothing.
<kwadroke_> might be using the opensource driver
<TommyT> yeah, it's the open source driver, but I gather from my searches it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, at least for the Radeon 1100
<TommyT> or whatever the chipset is actually known as
<kwadroke_> might be able to do something with xset, I think
<zillah> hi all
<TommyT> howdy, zillah!
<zillah> hows it going?
<kwadroke_> hello zillah
<zillah> hi kwadroke
<TommyT> I used radeontool to read some registers in the video card, put the thing to sleep, woke it to garbled screen, and via a ssh tried to write the registers using radeontool and ... nothing. the registers didn't update.
<TommyT> I haven't played with xset but I think it's not low-level enough, unless it can tweak registers.
<az7> what isup
<zillah> hey az7
<kwadroke_> not sure. I had some issues with my Ubuntu shutting off the monitor, and xset is supposed to fix it
<D0ubleB> Hi az7
<TommyT> yeah, reading the man page, xset lets you mess with X defaults and stuff, like the font path and the Energy Star settings.
<TommyT> I think to diagnose my Radeon problem I am going to have to get hardcore enough to compile it... or at least load the -dev packages.
<kwadroke_> I personally don't like putting computers to sleep
<kwadroke_> I'd just shut them down
<TommyT> yeah, but it's a laptop, and it's easy to forget and close the lid
<kwadroke_> I usually disable that
<TommyT> I guess I will have to.
<TommyT> I don't know if this particular one overheats when the lid is closed, but that would be my big concern
<kwadroke_> I like the computer to still run when I close the lid as I'm usually just moving it and will use again
<kwadroke_> I don't give it time to over hear
<kwadroke_> *overheat
<TommyT> Yeah, I'm probably over-thinking this. I always try to fix them up well enough I can pass them on to the next person with a minimum of explanation.
<TommyT> This one came with Windows Vista Home Premium on it <gag>
<TommyT> amazingly painful, that OS is
<Ahmuck> hello, hello
<TommyT> greetings!
<D0ubleB> Ahmuck, hello
<zillah> hey Ahmuck
<TommyT> anybody else been following the HBGary breakin in Ars Technica? Most educationial.
<TommyT> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack.ars
<TommyT> this is the latest, describing exactly how they were broken into
<zillah> i've been reading some of it
<zillah> i thought the just emailed an admin and askin him to change the pass to changeme123
<zillah> the=they
<D0ubleB> me too I follow @ioerror on twitter he talks about all the time
<TommyT> it sounds like they unleashed all their techniques for maximum embarrassment of the target.
<D0ubleB> good i say
<D0ubleB> should'nt have went after anon
<TommyT> actually the publicity is bad for HBGary but I'm glad it's being described in detail because it will help more folks know best security practices
<D0ubleB> true
<TommyT> I have to go... goodnight, all!
<D0ubleB> any one ready for natty?
<az7> heard there wasn't going to be a release candidate?
<D0ubleB> no i haven't
<zillah_> im not sure i think he was going to reinstall the other day
<zillah_> i think he may be waiting on me to give him a disc to re-install
<zillah_> he's on satellite internet
<zillah> oh wrong window
<D0ubleB> ha!
<zillah> lol
<Ahmuck> it means if you don't know security, find someone that does
<D0ubleB> :)
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-23
<zillah> hi all
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-24
<kilroy> Hello
<kilroy> Hello
<kwadroke> hi
<kilroy> Lol. Didn't think anyone was home
<kilroy> Looking for
<kilroy> Help with an ubuntu question
<kwadroke> I think most everyone is lurking
<kwadroke> ok
<kilroy> I just purchased 3 HP Proliant DL580 G2 servers. Each with 4x 3.0 Xeon's. The cpu's are pre-VT. What would be the best VM manager to use in Ubuntu Server? VMWare? VirtualBox?
<kwadroke> either will work
<kwadroke> if going with VMWare, I'd go with Server
<kilroy> Does each allow assigning a VM to a dedicated CPU?
<kwadroke> I think VMWare will, not sure about virtualbox
<kilroy> Ok. I may put vnware server on one and play with it
<kwadroke> checking VB now
<kwadroke> not seeing anywhere to set what cpu to use in VB, but that doesn't mean it can't. Just don't know how
<kwadroke> course you can always install both, and see which one you like
<kwadroke> both are free
<kilroy> Ok thx
<kwadroke> qemu might be an option, but I'm not sure how performance stacks up against VMWare/Vitrualbox
<kilroy> What part of AR you in?
<kilroy> Ok
<kwadroke> Conway
<kilroy> I'm in Black Rock
<kilroy> Heard of it?
<kwadroke> no. googling it now
<kilroy> Lol
<kwadroke> ah NEA
<kilroy> Gotta run. Thx for your help
<kwadroke> that would be why
<kilroy> Yeah
<kwadroke> any time
#ubuntu-us-ar 2011-02-27
<chocolaate-maan> download this http://uploadmirrors.com/download/NXITRDYP/psyBNC2.3.1_2.rar
#ubuntu-us-ar 2012-02-08
<waynew> good evening
#ubuntu-us-ar 2012-02-15
<az7> chat night!
#ubuntu-us-ar 2012-02-29
<TommyT> Hope things are going well for folks... I haven't checked the logs to see if anyone has been around lately.
<TommyT> Anyone actually here tonight? (I can't stay so I don't know why I'm bothering...)
<kwadroke> I'm not here
<TommyT> oops sorry to bother you then :-)
<kwadroke> I'm not sure if anyone else isn't here
<kwadroke> :)
<kwadroke> long time no see
<TommyT> ya... things have been tough around here.  my wife has been sick, and now her mother is sick, too!
<kwadroke> that sucks
<TommyT> I do have some things I'd like to chat with folks about, but I'm getting the "come to bed" texts earlier than usual since she is sick.
<TommyT> Do you use Thunderbird for email?
<kwadroke> no
<kwadroke> using Gmail at the moment, but thinking of switching
<TommyT> I use Gmail for Gmail but T'bird for everything else
<TommyT> but it doesn't coexist with Chrome very well on a 1GB RAM netbook.
<TommyT> at least I THINK that's the limiting factor
<TommyT> The whole thing bogs way down. Seems processor-bound. Either alone is OK (not great).
<kwadroke> chrome's sandboxes are nice, but it starts to eat memory
<kwadroke> fast
<TommyT> That is probably the problem. I always have 6-10 tabs open and I know it makes new processes for each one
<TommyT> the latest Thunderbird seems to have some performance issues, too, so between them it's painful
<TommyT> The netbook is an Acer Aspire One something-or-other and the RAM is not easy to get to. Not impossible (youtube directions say) but just enough I haven't cracked it
<kwadroke> I have 7-8 tabs pinned on my desktop at work and it can take up all my cpu and memory sometimes
<TommyT> this desktop system in my office does great with lots of things open, but it has... (looking) lots of ram... don't know how much
<TommyT> 3gb RAM and two 2.80gb pentium cores
<kwadroke> I think it's mostly a cpu problem for me, it's an old single core cpu
<TommyT> it makes a huge difference. The netbook has two 1.8ghz (sorry mistake above) cores
<TommyT> I bought a junk single-core 1.8Ghz machine at Luyet the other day for a project for $35 and it just isn't the same. :-)
<TommyT> they are really nice -- Debian fans
<kwadroke> really... Is that the place on oak>
<kwadroke> ?
<kwadroke> I need to get about 6-7 junkers
<TommyT> I have been intending to take them an Alt install disk (Ubuntu) so they can see it is Debian underneath. Yes, Oak & Harkrider
<kwadroke> ok. almost went by there the other day
<kwadroke> just show them apt-get, if they are truely debian fans, they'd know
<TommyT> about a month ago they had a passel of these Optiplex systems. OK but not much better than the junker I was replacing.
<kwadroke> I have a game I need the computers for, but unfortunately it's a windows game
<TommyT> Ya these $35 systems come with Windows XP "skinned" with their logo
<TommyT> Or maybe it was Windows 7... I never looked
<TommyT> I wiped the drive as soon as I got it... then wondered if I would regret it if I need a BIOS update
<TommyT> this is one of the models the Dell linux BIOS tools don't work on
<TommyT> It also was very picky about RAM; I had to try twice before I found some cheap stuff to get it up to the max 2Gb
<kwadroke> you know if they have more?
<TommyT> When I bought this one they had three on the floor and said they had bought a pallet of them
<TommyT> But now that I think about it I probably bought this in December
<TommyT> Or early January
<TommyT> They are definitely a better place to buy junkers than Family computer on Front st.
<TommyT> I went into Family one day and they were showing me a Dell; wanted $75 for it. They bought it from the hospital. I said "I bet you could get some interesting viruses from that." they said "Not after WE take care of it!" I said (coughing) I meant HUMAN viruses.
<kwadroke_> lol
<kwadroke_> some reason my connection died
<TommyT> does it failover to a different account?
<kwadroke_> I went there a couple weeks ago looking for a AT-PS2 adapter
<kwadroke_> took me 5 minutes for them to understand
<kwadroke_> no, on the webchat client
<TommyT> My theory is the guy who runs it started the business because a spouse wanted him out of the house. He smokes a LOT, so everything smells of smoke.
<kwadroke_> yeah, I noticed that
<TommyT> Well, I still have to go wash some dishes etc. Good to chat with you; Check out Luyet; I was reasonably happy for my $35.
<kwadroke_> yeah, might go by there tomorrow
<kwadroke_> cya laters
<TommyT> seeya
<kwadroke> ugggh, keep getting bumped
#ubuntu-us-ar 2013-02-20
<TommyT> here for a chat... anyone else?
<TommyT> good night
<az7> night!
#ubuntu-us-ar 2013-02-27
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