#ubuntu-au 2011-08-01 <gorilla> Is it acceptable to put a sign on my computer saying "Can't work: Compiling"? <head_victim> sagaci: nice work on the translation team <sagaci> head_victim, yeah pretty happy about it... already dug into the chromium-browser package <DoeNietWil> Hello Ubuntu user, I came to this irc to ask you a question. We are trying to release a new version of OpenTeacher, and because it is a tool that is very language specific I was wondering if any of you would like to take a couple of minutes and translate it. It really isn't that much work but it would help us a lot. https://translations.launchpad.net/openteacher <head_victim> DoeNietWil: not a problem, there are several of us in here who would be able to help out. <DoeNietWil> ah cool head_victim thanks a lot <head_victim> DoeNietWil: we translate into English (Australian) <DoeNietWil> just to be sure, launchpad treats this as seperate languages? <head_victim> Yes, and we've only recently set up a team for our translation on launchpad, previously we were only a Ubuntu team. <DoeNietWil> very nice to hear! <sagaci> DoeNietWil, yeah ok <head_victim> DoeNietWil: quick question is wordlisttable a specific object in open teacher? <head_victim> Or can it be translanted to word list table <DoeNietWil> wait i will check it for you <DoeNietWil> could you tell me at what page it is? <head_victim> DoeNietWil: strings 40 and 43 <DoeNietWil> it can be translated <head_victim> Ok you might want them to update the main as well as wordlisttable isn't in English US to my knowledge either <DoeNietWil> head_victim, do you know what it should say then? <head_victim> Hah sagaci and I are tripping over each other. <head_victim> I would suggest simply "word list table" unless wordlisttable is a specific object in the program <DoeNietWil> thanks, i posted it as a bug <head_victim> No worries <head_victim> If they do report that it's meant to be a specific object let me know and I'll change it back in our translation <DoeNietWil> i believe it's not because they made a dutch translation and it is translated in there <head_victim> Ah that makes sense, that's why I like to check before just changing things. <head_victim> DoeNietWil: all done, I'd probably suggest that string 195 needs to be "percentages" not "percents". <DoeNietWil> yeah, there is allready a bug filed for that but thanks! <head_victim> DoeNietWil: no worries, glad to help out <DoeNietWil> that's the nice thing about ubuntu everyone it friendly <DoeNietWil> but hey, if you want to chat with the devs someday you can go here http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openteacher #ubuntu-au 2011-08-02 <head_victim> A dry run rsync to a fresh location gives me a total size of 463GB, an accumulative rsync gives me 850GB. I'm using rsync -vtlrh source destination - any suggestions? <head_victim> Oh and I've thrown a --delete in there as well to no avail. <head_victim> For the record --ignore-errors did the trick. <sagaci> head_victim: how long did it take to sync <head_victim> It took bugger all (came back to the pc within 30 mins) and the extra 400GB was gone <head_victim> The 850GB collection built up over months. <sagaci> ah ok <head_victim> I've noticed aarnet has slowed to about 2.2MB/s these days though. <head_victim> First few seconds ramp up over 4 but within 5 - 10 seconds its back to 2.2 - 2.4 <sagaci> yeah, i'm down to 1.5 <head_victim> I'd say the speed is there because I haven't noticed any drop off anywhere else, maybe it's being throttled somewhere I'd say. <sagaci> bigpond, i'd say <head_victim> Or aarnet suddenly having a massive load of Telstra clients. <sagaci> yeah, maybe <head_victim> I wonder how back "a few bad sectors" is on a SMART test for a 2tb drive. <gorilla> head_victim: I'd be backing up the drive and replacing it. But that's more my level of paranoia. <head_victim> Yeah, I'm working on backing it up now. <head_victim> It's showing a bad sector count of 79 on a 2tb drive <head_victim> It's only been powered on 1.2 years <head_victim> gorilla: would a fsck help at all? <head_victim> Just researching the topic on google and working out if it is worth using the drive at all <sagaci> head_victim, is it your ubuntu archive drive? <head_victim> sagaci: that's one of the things on it. No real problem with that though, I can get that again any time I need it. <head_victim> It's also my primary network drive for documents, etc. <sagaci> I wouldn't share that kinda stuff on the same drive <head_victim> I do semi-regular backups so just doing a manual rsync of everything I can't replace elsewhere to put my linda89@example.com. <head_victim> It's only shared across the lan. No security threat. <head_victim> On a side note, I'm getting almost as much linked in spam on mailing lists as I'm getting other spam on my email account :/ <sagaci> like I mean, I know for myself, I'd have separate drives for ubuntu backup/archive and a separate one for personal stuff <head_victim> I was meant to, but that got sidetracked learning how to correctly build the server to run it all. <head_victim> So the personal data sits on raid 10 and the mirror on an external drive. <sagaci> ah ok <head_victim> And then anything not easily replaceable rsynced on a weekly cron to another network drive. <head_victim> And then I also burn some DVDs for semi-static data like photos, etc. <head_victim> I think that's a decent enough backup plan for a home network, just don't want to ever have to test it. <sagaci> i'm going to see if I can hack around on testdrive to include sync/launches of lubuntu daily isos <head_victim> I would but that's metered data :/ <head_victim> Unless you can convince aarnet to mirror dailies as well ;) <sagaci> well it's 700mb straight up but then it just sync the changes <sagaci> which is convenient <head_victim> Ah zsync the changes? <sagaci> yeah, zsync <sagaci> otherwise falls back to curl/wget <head_victim> Nice work. I'm concentrating on getting the basics right. My previous approach was leaving gaps in my knowledge so now I'm sticking strictly to a book to work through. <head_victim> Trying to plug the holes so I can do things right instead of just the quickest way I could find on google <sagaci> head_victim, is an email saying sunday week too confusing to send out now <head_victim> Nah just give the time and date and a shortlist of topics to try and generate conversation on them #ubuntu-au 2011-08-06 <scutum> Hello, Im interested in a reliable Linux hosting provider in Australia <scutum> can someone please help me <scutum> I know this is a bit off topic here but Im in need of good australian hosting <head_victim> scutum: ah ok there are plenty around but none I've personally used <scutum> head_victim, have you heard of a satisfied customer? <head_victim> Most people I know use linode but they aren't in Australia <head_victim> If no one else here can help out I'd suggest asking on the mailing list <head_victim> There's several hundred people on it so you'll reach a wider audience than the 20 or so here :) <scutum> great advise!! <scutum> ~advice <scutum> I can do that by emailin it to linda89@example.com <scutum> right? <sagaci> yup <scutum> thank you so much! <head_victim> scutum: here to help <scutum> I really appreciate it MATE! <head_victim> You didn't mention you wanted in it AU <sagaci> kinda did <head_victim> sagaci: I meant in the email to the list * head_victim went to moderate it to the list <sagaci> ah, makes sense <sagaci> didn't mention it was on the list :P <head_victim> scutum: did you want me to pass that one to the list or did you want to rewrite to say you wanted it in Australia? <scutum> yes please <sagaci> head_victim, so send ubuntu global jam - translation jam to the main list? <head_victim> Yep <head_victim> Set up on the loco.u.c page? <head_victim> I just sent out a UbuntuAU tweet/dent from Jono on organising UGJ so nice timing <sagaci> yeah, should I just say 3pm saturday arvie or ask for a time that suits the most people? <head_victim> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/05/kick-out-the-jam/ <head_victim> That's for details on what to set up where nad how to link it <head_victim> As far as when, if you're running it pick the time most suitable for you, if there is a few different ideas that work equally well for you feel free to create a doodle poll but make sure you set an end date of about a week from when you start it so it doesn't drag on and on <sagaci> 2 or 3 hours? <head_victim> Depends on what you want to do with it. The one I ran I basically said "I'll be available in the channel with information on how to get going from x to y" and people just came in as they wanted and I helped them get set up <head_victim> If you want to run a specific program you could probably do it in less time <sagaci> meh, I'll just make it saturday afternoon from 2-4pm, so it's not too later for westerners and not too early for easterners <head_victim> Sounds good <sagaci> announcement - link to jono's post or make a blog entry of my own? <head_victim> Blog to ubuntu.com.au if you like <head_victim> If you log in you can post to it and I can submit it <head_victim> Nothing stopping anyone writing posts to the main page there, just needs approval from the admins <sagaci> righteo <sagaci> do you get spam? <head_victim> Not a lot of people posting information spamming, more just as a double check for spelling/content <sagaci> kk <head_victim> Let me know when it's done, we don't get auto notified of new content <sagaci> head_victim, just mocked this up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/659839/ , suggestions... <head_victim> I'll probably try to remember how to hyperlink the links rather than list then but looks good <head_victim> Maybe include your nick or wiki page in brackets at the end so they can find you easily <sagaci> oh yeah righteo, do you want to fix that up? hyperlinks can't be done by me and if you want to copy+paste (sagaci) to the end... <head_victim> If you just go to http://ubuntu.com.au/node/add and submit either an event or story <sagaci> ah right <head_victim> So yeah, anyone with an account on the website (which is open to everyone) can create content, it just needs to be moderated by an admin to hit the website. <sagaci> ah, new to me <sagaci> account created 2 years 33 weeks ago, wowser <sagaci> didn't think it was that long ago <head_victim> Hah time flies when you're having fun <sagaci> ah, link doesn't work <sagaci> http://imgur.com/geuzR <head_victim> Oh WOW, there are a LOT of spammers sign up to that site <head_victim> Be happy when Canonical get time to upgrade it so we can hook in open id to it <head_victim> blahdeblah: is there anything special to do to an account to let them submit content for approval? <head_victim> or elky or any other website admins <head_victim> sagaci: so if you go to the home page is there a link on the right hand side "create content" <sagaci> nope <head_victim> sagaci: try now, I just gave you "page creator" access <sagaci> now it does, along with a lot of other stuff <sagaci> thanks <head_victim> I'll leave it there for now, if I'm told that's the really wrong thing to do and there is a better way I might revise it but I"ll let you know if it's going to change <head_victim> Looking at what others have done that seems to be the correct way to do it though so fingers crossed I got something right :) <sagaci> yeah righteo <head_victim> As you can tell I really know what I'm doing with drupal :D <sagaci> i'll leave published checkbox unticked, yeah, for proof-reading/typo-hunting? <head_victim> Yes thanks <sagaci> do you mind if I copy the announcement to my blog and link to it? <head_victim> Not at all, I was going to tweet/dent it as well if you don't mind <head_victim> Hit it on all fronts get as many people there as possible. Feel free to link on the forum as well <sagaci> head_victim, will that autolink l.u.c as well, or should I put it in the p.u.o.au <head_victim> sagaci: nah you still need to create the event in loco.u.c <sagaci> no, I just mean link to the l.u.c event in the post <head_victim> Oh yeah that would be good, that is where we're menat to organise it all from <head_victim> I'll be so glad when they get all the requirements for locos on the loco.u.c page <sagaci> it's on loco.u.c <head_victim> Nice job, I think that's a day I'm working but that can't really be helped, I think I'm working most of that weekend unfortunately <sagaci> that's fine <head_victim> And I think the loco.u.c site is still on UTC time <head_victim> I could be wrong though <sagaci> it looks like UTC but when you register/update the event it says input local time <sagaci> grr <head_victim> I think we set it to UTC because the local time didn't want to work properly at the time <sagaci> so change the time? <head_victim> If it's in UTC you probably shoudl <head_victim> If you're still going at 6 I might be able to join in ;) <sagaci> submitted <sagaci> meh,anytime after 2pm, really <head_victim> sagaci: ok if I add links to the general translation guide and the english translation guides? <sagaci> yeah, go for it <sagaci> just didn't know how to link with that text, without using full html <head_victim> I'm just going to use an example from the previous post that looks like - <a href="http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au/events">Ubuntu-AU loco.u.c events page</a> <sagaci> righteo then <head_victim> I never really know exactly what it's all called or doing but I have a knack for copying everyone else's work ;) <sagaci> Mr. Copyleft man <head_victim> I'm going to link the loco event as well if that's ok? <head_victim> As a part of the first sentence. <head_victim> http://ubuntu.com.au/ <sagaci> thanks <head_victim> sagaci: nah mate thank you for organising and wriiting it. Do you have an identica and/or twitter account? <sagaci> link is broken <sagaci> like the main en-AU link <head_victim> The first line?> <sagaci> yeppers <sagaci> twitter but I don't use it <sagaci> and it's the kind of thing I don't really want to start using <head_victim> Yeah I know how you feel. I'm doing the UAU posts for now, that's social media enough for me <sagaci> omg! i can't believe how much I like honey and peanutbutter on #bread <sagaci> -.- <head_victim> Hahah <head_victim> Hmm not sure what I've done to that link <sagaci> under the alternative url path I think <head_victim> No idea how that link got there <head_victim> Should be fixed <head_victim> #UbuntuAU is holding a Translation Jam! Announcement - http://is.gd/IXQSaJ Details & Signup - http://is.gd/syHFKn #ugj #locoteams #ubuntu <head_victim> Hows that for a tweet/dent ? <sagaci> yeah fine <sagaci> Have I sent an email to the list about it <sagaci> nope, looks like I haven't yet #ubuntu-au 2011-08-07 <benonsoftware> YankDownUnder: Hello :) <YankDownUnder> benonsoftware, Gday...have to get beer <benonsoftware> YankDownUnder: Bit to eariler? <benonsoftware> !rt <lubotu2> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/ <head_victim> yama: I notice you're one of the enGB translation launchpad admins, apparently my membership in the UK Translators group is about to expire. Would you be able to extend it? My launchpad id is jarednorris <head_victim> It's a bit odd though, as I am getting expiration notifications but it's an open team. <sagaci> or leave/join <head_victim> sagaci: nice point, I didn't even think of that. <head_victim> If you look at the membership it's weird, some people have expirations but most dont - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-en-gb/+members <sagaci> depends who approves i guess <head_victim> sagaci: leaving/joining worked to extend the expiration. <head_victim> yama: sorry to ping you unnecessarily, leaving and rejoining the the auto set the expiration out further. <sagaci> how long is the expiry now <head_victim> 1 year <elky> i'd say it used to be manually done but is now limited like this and the 1yr just makes sure the join-all-the-teams people drop off it eventually <elky> er, not limited, automatic <head_victim> elky: sounds fair, I just can't believe I didn't think of the obvious solution sagaci presented. <head_victim> Too busy looking for something more difficult <head_victim> Alrighty, off to the folks for dinner. Cheerio :) <sagaci> as am i <nt1972> hello everyone!! I am from Melbourne, I want to ask are there any ununtu courses are running in melbourne <nt1972> no one <redvil> anybody here knows how to get the latest vlc player..mine doesnt play mkv files <gack_> I've installed Ubuntu and it said it was successful. When I tried to restart it with the USB out nothing happened. I've reinstalled it and it's the same. Then I tried to run it in rescue mode by entering 'rescue' at the boot prompt screen. It didn't do anything. Rescue mode doesn't come up in my start up list when I try to start the computer with the USB in. Any ideas? #ubuntu-au 2011-08-08 <vostro> anyone in * gorilla is * sagaci is #ubuntu-au 2011-08-09 <sagaci> head_victim: you wouldn't happen to have the irc meeting URL for this month on l.u.com, it's down from here <head_victim> sagaci: oh it was in here <head_victim> Some people mentioned in other channels loco.u.c was down for them as well. I might see if the people in charge already know <benonsoftware> If everyone if fine with that I might have to have my doc jam on the friday * ikt pokes the channel #ubuntu-au 2011-08-12 <benonsoftware> Bulldog2010: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide to get started ask me any questions <Bulldog2010> ok no worries <benonsoftware> Bulldog2010: It is a bit hard at first :) <benonsoftware> Bulldog2010: During the jam we will manly be fixing the tags pages https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag <sagaci> head_victim, ping #ubuntu-au 2011-08-13 <blahdeblah> head_victim: You pinged me some time ago * benonsoftware is working on the Ubuntu-Manual now! :) <head_victim> blahdeblah: I think it was about settings on the website. <head_victim> sagaci: there's a good chance I may not be able to make this meeting Sunday night <sagaci> how many should we need for a meeting <head_victim> I usually like to see 5 - 10. <head_victim> Depends on the topic. <OutOfControl> head_victim: I might not be able to come either <OutOfControl> benonsoftware <blahdeblah> blahdeblah: What settings? <head_victim> blahdeblah: to allow people to add content to the website <head_victim> When sagaci was writing up about the global jam <blahdeblah> There are two roles we can add: blogger, and page creator. Most of the team who have published are either admins or page creators. <blahdeblah> Blogger has a limited set of permissions <blahdeblah> head_victim: see http://www.ubuntu.org.au/admin/user/access for details <head_victim> I basically just looked up the last "new" person to post that I remember you said you'd organised and copied their access <head_victim> That matrix is a good link though, I never found it stumbling around last time <sagaci> head_victim: so if we only get 2-4 people, should we postpone/cancel? <OutOfControl> head_victim: oh yeah at the meeting could you say a word about my doc jam if that is ok? <sagaci> OutOfControl: you should really be adding it to http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/add/ <OutOfControl> sagaci: I don't know what time people are free yet :( <sagaci> then just schedule it for the time you prefer most <OutOfControl> sagaci: Ok then thanks I'll do it now for the friday] <sagaci> righteo then <OutOfControl> sagaci: How long is yours going for? <sagaci> around 2 hours <OutOfControl> sagaci: Thanks <sagaci> not the most formal thing, people will hopefully just come and go whenever that day <OutOfControl> sagaci: That is what I think will happen to mine <OutOfControl> Does anyone have a idea for a Description for it if we're covering help.ubuntu.com <sagaci> something like we plan to proof-read, restore outdated and obsolete documentation while creating new material. Adding tips for Australian Ubuntu users, 3G wireless, etc... something like that <OutOfControl> Cool thanks <OutOfControl> Yay <OutOfControl> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1149/detail/ Here it is <sagaci> head_victim: I created an event for LCA2012 open day ubuntu booth. I'm likely not going to be the one to organise most of it since I don't reside close to the venue but whoever takes that lead can change the event contact... <sagaci> oh and local time for the events seem to be working.. <sagaci> when you choose an EST venue, that is <blahdeblah> PC free to a good home: http://www.ubuntu.org.au/admin/user/access <blahdeblah> fail <blahdeblah> Trying again: PC free to a good home: http://yoink.com/items/6088 <benonsoftware> Does any body know why my Doc Jam http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1149/detail/ has 2 poeple attending I can't see the other person <benonsoftware> ejat: Mornin' :) <ejat> morning #ubuntu-au 2011-08-14 * benonsoftware can't come to tonights meeting :( <benonsoftware> head_victim: Hay, my username is Benny for the site <head_victim> benonsoftware: Ok you should be able to create content, please ping someone to just quickly review it before publishing as 2 sets of eyes usually picks out any of the dramas. <benonsoftware> head_victim: Would I make it a event for the calendar? <head_victim> Either an event or story is fine, we try to steer people towards using the calendar on loco.u.c as their source so the website is more just getting the message out. <benonsoftware> head_victim: Ok, I'm just going to use the text from the loco event page I made is that fine? <head_victim> Sure <benonsoftware> Thanks <benonsoftware> loco.u.c is loding slowly for me :( <benonsoftware> Published :) <head_victim> Cool, I'll dent/tweet it probably tomorrow, don't want to spam everyone too much in one day :) <benonsoftware> Thats fine <sagaci> doing the package gftp, the string reads: The width of the filename column in the transfer window. Set this to 0 to have this column automagically resize. <benonsoftware> BTW I can' come to the meeting Jared <head_victim> sagaci: yeah I've noticed some people like the word "automagically" :/ <sagaci> is automagically a word, or should I just let the tongue in cheek expression go <benonsoftware> :) <head_victim> benonsoftware: yep you've said before, I'm not 100% sure I'll be here myself, I'm hoping to be back in time. <benonsoftware> Is it me or do all the tweets in Ubuntu-AU in l.u.com apear twice? <head_victim> sagaci: I don't know of any policy one way or the other to be honest <sagaci> I'll just leave it for now <benonsoftware> Gotta go might see you all Monday <head_victim> See you later benonsoftware <head_victim> sagaci: I guess if the people writing it want to use words like that who are we to judge. <head_victim> Does seem odd but some people do like a bit of randomness I guess. <sagaci> jaddi27, ping <jaddi27> hi <sagaci> hi, sorry I'm late. The expression, "have you tried pulling it in" rings so true right now <sagaci> plugging* <sagaci> anyone around for the meeting? <fabricator4> Trip over the power cord? <fabricator4> Nothing happening yet. <jaddi27> I am here, but will be only half paying attention <sagaci> no, plugged in power cord but not the dsl cord :((( <sagaci> i'm like, y u no work modem <fabricator4> :-) <sagaci> so I guess I should just start it and see who's around <sagaci> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 05:05. The chair is sagaci. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <sagaci> Welcome to the August Ubuntu-AU IRC meeting, please register your attendance by raising your hand or saying hello... :) <jaddi27> Hi everyone <fabricator4> Hidi Ho <fabricator4> The rest might need another couple of minutes? <sagaci> yeah, I'll wait a few <MoLE_> Here, but only able to lurk for the most part. <sagaci> well anyway, three's a crowd. We only have a few agenda items anyhow, Speaking of which: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/130/detail/ <sagaci> four's a big crowd... hi MoLE_ <sagaci> Let's get started on our first item <sagaci> [TOPIC] Find more events to go to - Clinton Hunter <MootBot> New Topic: Find more events to go to - Clinton Hunter <sagaci> since mrshr3d isn't here at the moment, I guess we can talk about it anyway... <zabomber> well than you can fill me in on what "events" you specifically looking at? <sagaci> I've already posted an event for a linda89@example.com 2012 open day - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1150/detail/ <fabricator4> I'd like to go to some uni open days and set up a stand. Haven't approached any one yet though. <sagaci> this is all just tentative, whoever wants to setup and attend to the stand is quite welcome to do so <sagaci> fabricator4: your uni may already have a linux user group <fabricator4> There is at Queensland uni. I've also never seen them have a presence at any of the open days. <jaddi27> fabricator4, What is the name of the UQ linux user group? <fabricator4> QUT, I haven't seen any mention of a LUG <sagaci> it may help just to fire an email around on a mailing list mentioning an intent to setup some kind of ubuntu/linux stand <jaddi27> ah, right <fabricator4> Good question. I think they run educational stuff on the weekends. <fabricator4> http://www.sci.usq.edu.au/lug/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://www.sci.usq.edu.au/lug/ <sagaci> ah righteo <sagaci> [IDEA] set up stands at uni open days <MootBot> IDEA received: set up stands at uni open days <sagaci> anything else? <fabricator4> head victim mentioned local computer markets. <fabricator4> They are usually monthly <sagaci> around brisbane? <fabricator4> Yes, there's one: http://www.sundaycomputermarket.com.au/ (warning, has a popup :-( <sagaci> ah, might be worth approaching them <fabricator4> I think head victim had it in mind for Free Software Day, but it would work other times also. <sagaci> yeah, of course <sagaci> mind if we move onward? <MoLE_> Go for it. <fabricator4> onward... <sagaci> [TOPIC] Event documentaries & YouTube - Clinton Hunter <MootBot> New Topic: Event documentaries & YouTube - Clinton Hunter <sagaci> So I think it would be beneficial for us to create a youtube channel where we could post content under the ubuntu-au banner <fabricator4> How to's? <sagaci> some tutorials/screencasts/how-to's are much better with someone talking/explaining rather than terminal commands that newer users might not feel comfortable with <sagaci> fabricator4: installing etax under wine, desktop tweaks, ubuntu advocacy, etc <fabricator4> Absolutely. Setting up a VM. Basic install etc <sagaci> exactly, reviews possibly, endless options <sagaci> how to translate, fix bugs, get on IRC, change your mirror prefs <fabricator4> What tools are available? I've seen it done, never tried it. <MoLE_> Is the a template howto so noobs like me can create a screencast? <sagaci> I can't really advocate for any specific program but you can use ffmpeg, gtk-recordmydesktop and kazam, amongst others <zabomber> wouldn't that be re-inventing the wheel? surely theres a million tuts online? <sagaci> this would be better suited to the mailing list but I guess we'd just set it up to be similar to ubuntu.org.au/IRC whereby longtime contributors/admins, elky, head_victim et.al., would admin the project and review/approve content to post to the official channel <fabricator4> Yes, there's plenty out there. But if Ubuntu au could produce some quality presentations it would be a one-stop shop <sagaci> zabomber: maybe but as Jorge Castro said in a lightning talk at UDS, much of the information is wrong and is obsolete <jaddi27> zabomber, I think it would be useful for people who want to hear people from their country giving examples - an Australian accent with Australian spelling is nicer to hear/read <MoLE_> There would be a niche for au specific config etc. <fabricator4> Some of the presentations are a bit ordinary, miss the point, or yes obsolete <zabomber> ok. true that. <sagaci> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc062mjMmAw - example of good content <MootBot> LINK received: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc062mjMmAw - example of good content <sagaci> [ACTION] Youtube channel - defer to mailing list - concerning setup and administrators reviewers/approvers <MootBot> ACTION received: Youtube channel - defer to mailing list - concerning setup and administrators reviewers/approvers <fabricator4> OK, not a bad idea <sagaci> also goes for possible video content of Ubuntu-AU events, etc <jaddi27> sounds like it would be a great way to get more people using ubuntu for the first time, and helping out people who would like to try out new parts of the operating system <sagaci> maybe it's just me, but I watched lots of youtube linux/ubuntu related videos just to hear someone else talking about it, rather than just reading things on a screen <jaddi27> yes, i can see the advantage of that <sagaci> anyway.. anything else to add? <sagaci> [TOPIC] Professionally-made Name Badges - Clinton Hunter <MootBot> New Topic: Professionally-made Name Badges - Clinton Hunter <sagaci> I don't mind this idea but unless anyone has anything to say about it, I'd be inclined to push this to the mailing list, since mrshr3d is absent <jaddi27> I'd agree with moving it to the mailing list - it is really something that needs to be discussed with everyone <sagaci> [TOPIC] Ubuntu-AU Doc Jam - Benny <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu-AU Doc Jam - Benny <jaddi27> Benny is not here, but wanted everyone to know that he will be running a Doc Jam <MoLE_> Yes, I saw his apology on the list. <jaddi27> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1149/detail/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1149/detail/ <sagaci> at the risk of being accused of self-promotion, I'd just like to say that the Ubuntu-AU team has two Jams running, the Documentation Jam on Friday, 2nd September at 7pm-9pm AEST and my en-AU translation jam on Saturday 3rd September from around 2pm-4pm <MoLE_> Cool, I think I have that weekend off. <sagaci> MoLE_: well now you don't :P <jaddi27> It will be good if we can get a few people along to both of those <MoLE_> Lol <sagaci> [ACTION] benonsoftware and sagaci to send out reminders to mailing list in re: to Jams <MootBot> ACTION received: benonsoftware and sagaci to send out reminders to mailing list in re: to Jams <sagaci> [TOPIC] Ubuntu-au Mailing List & Gmail - Boden Matthews <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu-au Mailing List & Gmail - Boden Matthews <sagaci> I think this is mostly out of our hands unless anyone has anything else to add <MoLE_> I've noticed this is an issue. I presume upstream us aware? <MoLE_> *is <sagaci> yep, head_victim has notified whoever needed to be notified <MoLE_> Ok, watch this space then. <sagaci> and as Dan from Linux Outlaws says, "we'll keep an eye on that one to see how it turns out" <gorilla> oops.. I forgot. sorry all :-/ <MoLE_> Those blokes have eyes everywhere. <sagaci> speaking of which <sagaci> [TOPIC] Localised Ubuntu-AU cdimage - Joel Pickett <MootBot> New Topic: Localised Ubuntu-AU cdimage - Joel Pickett <MoLE_> Welcome gorilla <sagaci> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cd-localization <MoLE_> Cool idea. <sagaci> brainstorm ideas for ubuntu-au localisation, k GO <jaddi27> Obviously translations should be included <sagaci> wallpaper, translations, artwork, australian-specific documentation (etax), default IRC channels, (#ubuntu-au) <sagaci> login sound <jaddi27> I think the desktop background could be changed, but I like to see what the official desktop background is with each new version <sagaci> artwork may exhibit Australian culture/places of interest <jaddi27> the animal for that release in an Australian setting ... <sagaci> polar bear on Uluru? <jaddi27> yes, that is about right <sagaci> photoshop/gimp skills anyone? <fabricator4> bundy bear... <jaddi27> an ocelot on the sydney harbour bridge <fabricator4> yes <sagaci> but is it necessary and/or worth the effort? <fabricator4> no, and yes <jaddi27> translations yes, others maybe <sagaci> artwork could reside on the wiki <fabricator4> An Australian image would make it more attractive <sagaci> same with Aussie documentation <sagaci> maybe as an ubuntu-au metapackage, (down the road, future) <sagaci> any other ideas, otherwise I'll finish it up...? <sagaci> #endmeeting <MootBot> Meeting finished at 06:02. <sagaci> gg, thanks <jaddi27> still managed to make the meeting last an hour with a few people and only a few topics <fabricator4> some good ideas <MoLE_> Wd <gorilla> ditto <sagaci> jaddi27: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/173/detail/ <jaddi27> Thanks for that. Hopefully I will be properly available for it <jaddi27> I think it should be fine, but I will let you know closer to the time <skotty> Hey people <skotty> I have a few qu's if someone is able to give me a little bit of advice?.. <jaddi27> I might be able to, but am doing other work at the same time <jaddi27> ask away, and I will see what I can do <skotty> Looking at butting Ubuntu 11.4 on my PC... dunno if I would have many errors or how smooth sailing it will be... <jaddi27> is it a laptop or desktop? <skotty> AMD Phenom x2 6core 1055T, 8gb ram, and a 30GB SSD.. <skotty> Desktop <jaddi27> do you just have the SSD? <skotty> I'm downloading the 64bit version <skotty> I've got a HDD aswell... <skotty> Prob better off installing it to my HDD I guess incase I don't like it so I don't lose my windows install hey?.. <jaddi27> do you have windows currently installed that you want to keep? is it on the ssd or hdd? <jaddi27> yes, that would be best <jaddi27> i would allocate about 30gb to ubuntu on the hdd, but you could go smaller if you want <skotty> Guess ubuntu will run fast enough on the HDD as its not a hog like windows I've been told.. <skotty> Had a mate that use to run Linux Mint and swears by linux distros <jaddi27> i use ubuntu on a normal hdd, and find it fairly fast <skotty> Is there anyway that I can install microsoft office on ubuntu or do I have to run it in a virtual box? <jaddi27> obviously ssd will be faster, but for trying it out and most use cases, a standard hdd will be fine * skotty not a fan of open office <jaddi27> you would have to install ms office on a virtual windows machine in virtual box <jaddi27> you can use wine (a windows emulator), but i have found the virtual machine to work better <jaddi27> because it is a proper windows install <skotty> Just doing a bit of research on trying to find a few programs for ubuntu, and how easy does ubuntu work in regards on running on a network.. <skotty> Becasue its going on my desktop - and have several comps accessing data off my desktop.. <jaddi27> my computers just detect the wireless network and connect once you have entered the password <skotty> how well does the filesharing side of it work? <jaddi27> if you have windows shares set up on the desktop, you would have to set it all up again in ubuntu <jaddi27> i haven't done much filesharing, but the few times i have accessed a windows comp from ubuntu, it has worked fine <jaddi27> i can't say about windows -> ubuntu, as I have not tried it <skotty> still trying to figure out of gains I will get with running linux or windows tho lol.. <skotty> How well with ubuntu go in the way of finding drivers for itself? <jaddi27> i find ubuntu faster than windows, but windows has some programs that you cannot put on linux easily (e.g. Dreamweaver, MS Office, etc) <jaddi27> It normally finds drivers fairly well, and if it doesn't find them, it is normally easy to get them set up <skotty> I'm guessing if I like ubuntu, I'd be better off running it with dual boot then... <skotty> for some windows apps and what not.. <jaddi27> yes, that is what i would do initially <skotty> is it hard to setup the daul boot.. <jaddi27> install it to the hdd, try it out for a bit, and then decide what you want to end up doing with it <jaddi27> no, it is very easy <jaddi27> ubuntu will find the drives, and you just need to select the correct drive and select the amount of space it can have on that drive <jaddi27> it will install its own boot loader to replace the windows one, which works well <jaddi27> i recommend you do a backup of your data in case something goes wrong, obviously, but i haven't had any bad experiences installing it <skotty> Main programs that I use in windows is mIRC, SABnzb, PS3 Media server... which I have found for Linux anyway <jaddi27> yes, there are equivalent programs for most programs, and the majority work very well <skotty> thanks for ya help jaddi27 <skotty> I'm going to go and give it a crack :) <skotty> Thanks again! <head_victim> Evening jaddi27 and skotty <skotty> hiya head_victim <jaddi27> skotty, let us know how you go <skotty> Only think I prob won't be able to find a app for in ubuntu I'm guess is my keyboard.. <skotty> Logitech G510 <jaddi27> ubuntu should recognise the keyboard and use the appropriate mappings <jaddi27> i know my logitech K340 works properly in ubuntu <skotty> I'm meaning I probably won't be able to use a few of the apps on it? <skotty> Mines a gaming keyboard with the headphone jacks in it, and LCD up the top of it... (and the ghey colour changing lights lol) <head_victim> skotty: I use a logitech mx5500 on this computer now, it has a lcd <head_victim> There are bits that work and bits that don't. If it's set up under windows first it pretty much all just works ok with linux <head_victim> But I'm going to be throwing it all away soon hopefully. Logitech have really burned me with this set. Has lasted so poorly. <skotty> I love my logitech keyboards <skotty> havent had anything other than logitech in the last 10 years lol, had all the G15 V1, G15 V2, and now the G510 :) <skotty> They have proven to be outlast me with spilling soft drink in them and covering them with ciggi ash (I need to look after my hardwear more). <head_victim> This mx5500 is not a cheap set, it retails upwards of 250. Less than 2 years down the track the mouse has to be constantly (daily) reset as it freezes and the keyboard has to be reset weekly as keys get stuck. <head_victim> The key action is so poor it's making me mistype. <head_victim> I loved it when it was new, it just didn't last well enough to make me want to buy anything logitech again, especially keyboards. <head_victim> I'd happily trade the LCD screen for a keyboard that lasted longer :D <head_victim> jaddi27: my power tripped out at 2100 on the dot, was there much of the meeting after [Sun 14 Aug - 21:00:48] <sagaci> any other ideas, otherwise I'll finish it up...? <skotty> anywyas going to go and give ubuntu a crack <skotty> hopefully I don't kill anything important hahah <skotty> cheers guys I shall return :P <head_victim> skotty: good luck, we're here to help <jaddi27> head_victim, after that there was a #endmeeting <jaddi27> so you didn't miss anything at all <head_victim> jaddi27: thank goodness, I got home and went to see how it all went and the computer was off, the power circuit tripped for the first time in years :/ <jaddi27> yes, i saw you go offline around then and thought it was unusual <head_victim> Nice of it to at least catch the meeting for me. <head_victim> I only ever go offline when the power is out :/ <head_victim> I have wireless broadband failover on my router so even if the cable internet drops (has happened once in the last 2 years) I should stay connected, might be a brief reset though. <jaddi27> yes, at least it got the meeting <jaddi27> the wireless is very useful in that way <head_victim> And if I'm really desperate I use my mobile phone. <head_victim> YAAIC has just updated with some features I was hanging out for so is now just abouta s good as IRC'ing on a mobile can get I think. <jaddi27> i might look into that if i get an android phone <head_victim> I used to use mirrgi on my nokia <head_victim> It wasn't spectacular but it worked. <jaddi27> i just have a normal phone, but have iPad and iPod touch <jaddi27> haven't found a really good client yet, but i haven't looked for a while <head_victim> Ah my wife has an ihpone4 but she doesn't IRC anymore so can't really say for that platform <jaddi27> if i can't find a good one, then i might look into writing one for it - but that won't be for a while <jaddi27> I'll be off now - need to finish drawing up a circuit for uni tomorrow <jaddi27> speak to you later <head_victim> No worries, have a good one <head_victim> Evening sagaci, sorry I missed it :/ <head_victim> (the meeting) <sagaci> no worries <sagaci> only a few items on the agenda anyhow <head_victim> Yep, just read the log, looks like it went well <sagaci> so would you be ok to admin/create a youtube channel for ubuntu-au? <head_victim> Yeah, I was actually just googling how to achieve it <head_victim> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=1070535 <head_victim> They've been depreciated apparently <sagaci> deprecated <sagaci> :P <head_victim> Hmm maybe a ubuntuau channel <head_victim> Do the same as I did with twitter and use the ubuntu-au-owner email address so its tied to the team? <skotty> Howdy, I'm back... <skotty> Got ubuntu installed no dramas.. :-) <head_victim> skotty: that's what I love about Ubuntu, easy enough for even people like me to install. <sagaci> skotty, which version? <skotty> Now time to try and find a decent IRC prog... had a mate try to tell me that there was a mIRC version for ubuntu.. I didn't think there was.. <skotty> sagaci: 11.4 64bit <head_victim> xchat is what I use, similar to mirc <sagaci> goodo, so did I <head_victim> sagaci: is there a better video sharing network than youtube as well <skotty> With apps, do they have to be for ubuntu or can I use ones that say Linux/GNOME and that kinda stuff? <head_victim> skotty: the best way to install software in Ubuntu is through the software centre. That way they will always be updated. <skotty> will it auto install? <head_victim> MOST (not quite all) software is available through the software centre, it's just not always the absolute latest (beta) versions. <sagaci> head_victim, maybe technically superior but youtube has the popularity/reach <skotty> Last time I played with linux was 12 months ago... with mint... I know I had to type in some command line.. <sagaci> skotty, you don't have to do it via the commandline <sagaci> what do you want to install? <head_victim> sagaci: just checking if we could use better formats in other places or something. <skotty> Just trying to get together a few programs I regually use... <skotty> Is there any decent video decoder packs out there for linux? the one I use on windows don't make a linux version :( <sagaci> erm, ubuntu-restricted-extras <skotty> PS3 Media Server I wanna install.. <sagaci> never used that <skotty> Streams media to playstation 3... <skotty> transcodes on the fly.. <skotty> Whats ubuntu-restricted-extas? <head_victim> Be right back :) <sagaci> by video decoder packs, I thought you meant like k-lite or something like that <skotty> Thats exactly what I mean :) <skotty> on windows I use Sharky 007 <sagaci> well if you want to play pretty much any format out there, ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage that installs most common codecs with openjdk and flash <skotty> where can I get that? <sagaci> from the software centre <fabricator4> Scotty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats <skotty> thx <fabricator4> :) <fabricator4> The software center is good. Open the dash and type the name of the program you want. I should start showing you relevent icons after a brief moment. <skotty> I just need a decoder for MKV really :) <fabricator4> You should also run automatic updates <skotty> to run with PS3 media server so I can stream bluray rips to PS3.. <skotty> Where do downlaods from the software centre go :/ <fabricator4> The debs get downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives, but they will get installed automatically. You don't need to do anything except wait for it to finish <skotty> Where do I go to access them then :s <fabricator4> Oh, you mean how do you run them? <skotty_87> Think I might of sussed it. <fabricator4> Try typing the program name in dash, or see if there's documentation on the program <skotty_87> I'm actually rather enjoying ubuntu <skotty_87> almosted tempted to install it to my SSD <fabricator4> Yes. Give it a few days though, to be really sure. <skotty_87> Yeah, mainly depends on if this ubuntu-restricted-extras can deal with MKV and how well it works with streaming media, <fabricator4> Try googling. I know there's some PS 3 specific programs out now. <skotty_87> The one I use on windows is also avaible for OSX/Linux <skotty_87> I have nfi how I will go with installing it tho.. <fabricator4> Also type PS3 into the software center and see what it turns up. <fabricator4> see if there's a debian install package. <sagaci> skotty,try VLC or mplayer <fabricator4> Download the debian install, then open the containing folder with the file manager and just double click on it. Easy :-) <skotty_87> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ps3MediaServer <sagaci> goodo <fabricator4> Rebooting? #ubuntu-au 2011-08-15 <somethinginteres> head_victim: sorry about missing last night's meeting. I see the Team Report remains incomplete for July. I will work on that now. <head_victim> somethinginteres: thanks for that, I actually missed the meeting myself due to some short notice of some family issues. <head_victim> Actually just doing up a tweet for the doc jam now though <somethinginteres> head_victim: I missed it due to only now feeling recovered from a rather nasty cold <head_victim> It's going around at work at the moment again as well <somethinginteres> head_victim: yeah it seems like its hitting everyone atm <somethinginteres> head_victim: so, so far we have a translation and documentation jam in the works. Any others? <head_victim> That's all I'm aware of. <sagaci> yep <head_victim> Unfortunately I'm at work for the weekend or I would ahve asked the local LUG for interest in an installation jam. <head_victim> Mind you last time I asked them if there was any interest in actually doing anything there was no response, not even a negative one. <sagaci> there's only so much you can do <somethinginteres> sagaci: this is true. Just curious if I missed anything :) <head_victim> somethinginteres: unless you're offering ;) <somethinginteres> head_victim: haha not at this stage. The PhD proposal is taking all my time :P I will be attempting to participate in both currently being run by others though. <somethinginteres> I'll do all I can just so I don't have to keep seeing "Wastebasket" instead of "rubbish bin" :) <head_victim> Hah if you're on anything natty or newer you won't see it :D <somethinginteres> head_victim: wonderful! <head_victim> You've really got sagaci and jaddi to thank for that, they've done awesome work. <sagaci> i'm nearly 20% <sagaci> and nearly top rosetta contributor, by karma <sagaci> but then you look at people who've sustained 100,000+ karma over years of contribution and it puts it into perspective <head_victim> I like to maintain a solid 8000 or so <sagaci> it's hard to grasp i've clicked on translation strings about 60,000 times <sagaci> in the past 5 months <somethinginteres> crazytown <somethinginteres> I need to be doing more bug fixing but my programming skills are limited <somethinginteres> The July Team Report has been completed, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/11/July <sagaci> thanks <somethinginteres> sagaci: no problem <head_victim> somethinginteres: nice work on the team report <somethinginteres> head_victim: thanks <head_victim> It's been really good these last few months having more people involved. <somethinginteres> head_victim: glad to help #ubuntu-au 2011-08-16 <head_victim> fabricator4: what do you think of the mission statement? Is it approaching what you had in mind when you were first thinking of it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement#Consolidation <benonsoftware> I actually like the Mission Stament <fabricator4> Hi, Yes, that's what I had in mind. WD <head_victim> fabricator4: kyphi has put in some further comments so if you had anything to add please let me konw <head_victim> I don't mind us looking at the administrative side of things like this but don't want to get bogged down in the how and why at the expense of having people out in the public meeting, greeting and promoting :) <head_victim> benonsoftware: apparently they migrated the loco server from one machine to another recently and is probably the cause of the missing event. I'm waiting to hear if it will be reinstated or if we need to recreate the event, as soon as I know I'll let you know. I just thought I'd give the update to you as well. <benonsoftware> head_victim: Thanks for that info <head_victim> Apparently a few things went missing so it's not just us. <benonsoftware> Thats good :) <benonsoftware> See you all #ubuntu-au 2011-08-18 <somethinginteres> FYI all http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/717 <sagaci> head_victim: ping <sagaci> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot - might have already seen the new development mootbot #ubuntu-au 2011-08-20 <sagaci> so I was at the local bakery just then getting a couple of pies, there was this random guy who came up to me and asked if I had been using ubuntu <sagaci> greatest "wat" moment <nicky> morning <fabricator4> Does anyone have the torrent link for 11.04 32bit server download? The link on the official pages isn't working. :-( <fabricator4> S'ok, I found it on one of the mirrors... :-/ #ubuntu-au 2011-08-22 <hallowed> hey, <hallowed> what is the easiest way to do the equivalent of 'remote desktop' with ubuntu? <hallowed> via ssh...then how would one go about forwarding the
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