#ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-01 <malice_> anyone here use a wireless card to connect to the net like one from Cingular? <jldugger> wierd regression from dapper -- my toshiba's Fn keys dont work =( <Treenaks> jldugger: please file a bug, complaints from IRC are easily lost <jldugger> working on it <jldugger> gotta figure out where to file the bug first <jldugger> currently, im going with acpi-support <Infecto> my fn on nc8000 dont work to <Infecto> and i`v got problems with acpi <jldugger> who makes it? <Infecto> i dont know <jldugger> you know the model number but not the maker? <Infecto> i think thats near acpi <jldugger> HP <Infecto> a laptop <Infecto> HP <Infecto> misonderstund <jldugger> what happens on 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' when you press a key <jldugger> ? <Infecto> nothing <Infecto> but ksnpshot works <Infecto> but screen bright and dark not work <jldugger> dont think that one's acpi <matt8806suomi> what is the problem Infecto? <jldugger> ksnpshot <jldugger> but the brightness probably are. <Infecto> matt8806suomi: my problem is that after wake up, if my laptop wake up and :) some times he did, the fan dotn start up <matt8806suomi> bugger, can't help you much there, sorry Infecto <matt8806suomi> anyone know what are some battery extending tweaks for ubuntu <jldugger> i know a few <jldugger> edgy should make it easier to figure out which ones work <matt8806suomi> i have dapper <jldugger> but first off, make sure dynamic frequency scaling is working <matt8806suomi> i don't know the first thing about "dynamic frequency scaling". could you please enlighten me <jldugger> ok, you've probably got something like a 2.2 ghz cpu in your laptop, right? <jldugger> well, running that high takes a lot of energy, and produces a lot of heat (meaning more fans going) <jldugger> "dynamic frequency scaling" (cpufreq) lets your laptop clock down and run slower <jldugger> cuts energy consumption, and reduces temperature <matt8806suomi> nope just a 1.6 with 512 ddr2 600 <jldugger> how long is your battery lasting? <matt8806suomi> about 140mins <jldugger> another thing you can do is make the screen darker on battery <matt8806suomi> that's with AIGLX running all the time <jldugger> the LCD backlight is probably the hungriest part of it <jldugger> gnome 2.16's power management has a nifty graph of power usage <matt8806suomi> i have that setup. when i unplug the power cable the screen brightness drops <jldugger> the darker you set it, the longer it will last <matt8806suomi> yeah of course <matt8806suomi> that makes sense <jldugger> ati or nvidia? <matt8806suomi> i have Gnome 2.14.3, how do i get to 1.16 <jldugger> easiest way is to wait until edgy is released in a few weeks <matt8806suomi> Mobile Intel 915GM <jldugger> huh <matt8806suomi> what's with the huh? <jldugger> those aren't very powerful 3d <jldugger> might try turning off aiglx and see how much longer the battery lasts <matt8806suomi> 10-15 mins longer <matt8806suomi> but yet even then, it still isn't anywhere near the 4.5 i get from windows <jldugger> you have any bluetooth running? <matt8806suomi> wireless occasionally but not all the time, ow and i don't have bluetooth! well i don't think i do <matt8806suomi> how would i go about upgrading to Gnome 2.16 now? <matt8806suomi> you there jldugger? <jldugger> yea, sorry. roommates cleaned out the freezer <jldugger> had to double check that nothing of mine would melt <jldugger> anyways, upgrading gnome is a pita <matt8806suomi> nah that's cool <jldugger> your 3 options are to install from source, attempt to backport the edgy packages, or upgrade <matt8806suomi> what do you recommend, i'm thought about upgrade <jldugger> well, compiling gnome from source is a complicated effort and you still wont have all the ubunbut modifications, for better or worse, so i cant recommend that path <jldugger> backporting from edgy will require at least a rebuild of the packages for the dapper libc stuff, and there's no guarentee you'll be able to fix it all, or get any help <jldugger> the least painful would be upgrading to edgy <matt8806suomi> i might try that <jldugger> if i were you id hit up launchpad and check to see if your laptop has any known bugs <jldugger> http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/linuxsymposium_procv1.pdf <jldugger> p127 has some discussion on what improves battery life <matt8806suomi> thanks <jldugger> id also wonder whether windows actually gets four hours of use <matt8806suomi> web and word, that's all that is done in windows <matt8806suomi> lowest lcd brightness, cpu frequence changing <matt8806suomi> ow btw how do i setup cpu throttling <jldugger> its probably running right now <jldugger> you in GNOME? <jldugger> yes, thats right you said you were <jldugger> right click on the gnome panel and add a "CPU Frequncy Monitor" applet <jldugger> that should indicate whether its running or not <matt8806suomi> yeah i'm in Gnome <matt8806suomi> yeah i can add the applet but it says that my pc does not have the functions enabled? <matt8806suomi> what next? <jldugger> /etc/init.d/powernowd start <matt8806suomi> it says it's not supported but i had it in 5.1, then i upgraded to 6.01 and gooooone!! <matt8806suomi> ?? <matt8806suomi> what's going on? <jldugger> you might need a module in the kernel <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-02 <matt8806suomi> powernowd is installed but not working <yemu> hi, i have a problem with toshiba laptop running latest edgy <yemu> the laptop has ati x700 card <yemu> and when i log out <yemu> the whole screen is completly garbled <yemu> i see everything double and flickering <yemu> when kill X with ctl+alt+backspace <yemu> it starts again ok <yemu> it also starts ok when i boot up <simira> yem1: this is not a support channel, as topic says. Try "ubuntu <simira> #ubuntu, even <yem1> ok, sorry <yem1> tried ubuntu+1 ;-) <yem1> bye all #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-03 <jldugger> heh, is it a bad thing when modprobe segfaults? <tritium> Hmm, the wiki is showing the LaptopTestingTeam page as being deleted... <tritium> Perhaps it'll be back tomorrow. Got to update my wiki page to indicate that the Beta FAILS to install. Again, it's the bug in kernels >= 2.6.17-8 that prevents X from loading on my machine. <jldugger> indeed. the wiki doesnt even show who deleted it <jldugger> hope that doesn't mean i did <gijsj> i installed edgy on my core 2 duo laptop <gijsj> but I lost one of the processors <gijsj> apt-get tells me the 686 image is already installed <Fujitsu> This isn't a support channel... <gijsj> sorry <gijsj> where can I get the help? <Fujitsu> Try #ubuntu+1, probably. <gijsj> thnx <Fujitsu> No problem. * ..[topic/#ubuntu-laptop:Fujitsu] : Ubuntu laptop development work | Not a general Ubuntu support channel, use #ubuntu | Please test Edgy Beta - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/beta/ * ..[topic/#ubuntu-laptop:Fujitsu] : Ubuntu laptop development work | Not a general Ubuntu support channel, use #ubuntu | Please test Edgy Beta - http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ <gijsj> what can I do to help test edgy? <ArvineClone> Good morning folks <esac_> hi. my touchpad mouse has a couple issues in dapper. sometimes when double-clicking it doesnt work. this comes and go. as well, sometimes i will click a button, and the buttondown signal is sent, but it doesnt seem that the buttonup signal is sent. when i move the mouse off from the button, it is finally sent and the button is clicked. any ideas ? #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-04 <esac_> synaptics pad, the mouse button doesnt send the release event sometimes. works in windows. any ideas ? <jack_> help! I can't here everything with laptop hasee L205T <matt8806suomi> "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me? <Treenaks> that depends on what your exact question is <matt8806suomi> how do i set it up and enable it <Treenaks> it should be enabled by default <matt8806suomi> i'm looking to setup/enable "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me please? <Treenaks> matt8806suomi: a) which version of Ubuntu are you using <Treenaks> matt8806suomi: b) What kind of laptop? <Treenaks> matt8806suomi: c) If it's not on by default, it's a bug, please file it on launchpad.net <matt8806suomi> 6.06, HP dv4205tu 1.6ghz pentium m <matt8806suomi> how do check if it is enabled <Treenaks> matt8806suomi: put the CPU Frequency Monitor in your panel, for example <matt8806suomi> i have done that but it has not changed in the last few hours <Treenaks> matt8806suomi: try pulling your plug <Treenaks> it's probably not scaling because you're on AC power <Treenaks> for me it sits at 600MHz, and when I do "hard" stuff, it goes to 1GHz up to 1.8GHz (my max.) <matt8806suomi> yeah, that doesn't seem to be working either <Treenaks> maybe something is eating CPU? <Treenaks> have a look at the process monitor <matt8806suomi> 18% cpu and i have a million webpages in firefox, a few gnome games, and a few text documents open <Treenaks> right <Treenaks> that might be the cause <Treenaks> close the firefoxes, and your documents <Treenaks> people are still working on bugs in programs ('waking up every few milliseconds' is a bug: it eats CPU if you have hundreds of programs) <matt8806suomi> but the cpu is only 18% at best <Treenaks> that doesn't mean anything.. <jldugger> i think the default thresholds are around 15 percent for cpufreq <matt8806suomi> nvm i fix the prob, it was missing "cpufreqd" daemon <jldugger> easy way to tell if its working is to "/etc/init.d/powernowd restart" <jldugger> hmm <jldugger> maybe your computer wasn't detected as a laptop? <matt8806suomi> ow and it still works and runs with AC power <mdke> anyone heard of problems resuming from suspend with a lockup in AIGLX and the I810 driver? (is on a Thinkpad T43) <mdke> at least, I presume it's in AIGLX #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-05 <Trewas> my thinkpad x41 (with i810 driver) fails on second resume with good old crash in i830waitlpring, unless I use nosplash boot option... though disabling aiglx did not affect that <crimsun> Trewas: which model? <crimsun> Trewas: the X41-2527 I use works great <crimsun> Trewas: make sure you're using the latest bios, 2.07 <Trewas> crimsun: x41-2525, I haven't checked for bios updates in a while. btw we had some discussions before dapper too because I was having some problems with resume then, and your thinkpad worked fine <crimsun> what differentiates yours from mine? <Trewas> no bluetooth or something very minor anyway I think <Trewas> I can put lspci output somewhere <Trewas> if that helps or interests enough :) <jldugger> anyone here running a toshiba laptop that has acpi working in edgy? <jldugger> or a toshiba laptop at all? <Burgundavia> jldugger: yes and yes <Burgundavia> jldugger: sort of <jldugger> im kinda worried that it wont get fixed before release =( <Burgundavia> the newer Toshiba laptops have a new BIOS that is giving our laptop guy grief <jldugger> so someone is working on it? <jldugger> cuz ive filed some bugs but havent gotten any bites <Burgundavia> it will be worked on <Burgundavia> what is not working? <Burgundavia> for me it is just hot keys <jldugger> the hot keys are broken, as is turning down the brightness <jldugger> toshset anything causes a segfault or a kernel oops or something <jldugger> so when you unplug the ac, it doent turn down the LCD <Burgundavia> right <Burgundavia> those are all broken for me <jldugger> another neat breakage, when it turns off the screen i have to close the lid and open it again to wake up the unlock screen window <Burgundavia> ah <jldugger> ive finally fixed right clicking with my tablet though <malice> Does anyone in here know how to spoof there ip in Ubuntu? <norber> hello. i have a laptop and i buy a card audio usb. I want listen a song (example dover) by the two cards audio. Is possible? <yhan> hi I'm having a problem after dist-upgrading from breezy to dapper, I can't suspend anymore my IBM T42 <yhan> I've installed gnome-power-manager and aswell libpam_foreground <yhan> any thoughts ? <jldugger> examine /etc/default/acpi-support <yhan> I got that error when I try to suspend WARNING **: Couldn't connect to PowerManager Method invoked for Suspend returned FALSE but did not set error <yhan> do I need to set to true : ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE ? <yhan> I've set also ACPI_SLEEP to true, but no luck <yhan> actually I would like to enable the suspend when I close the lid <jldugger> maybe im not the best person to talk to -- i haven't gotten suspend / hibernate to work on my laptop yet =( <yhan> ok ok np thanks anyway <yhan> found something <yhan> in /etc/acpi <yhan> rename lid.sh to something else and symlink sleep.sh to lid.sh <Trewas> crimsun: I would never have believed but now that I upgraded bios in my thinkpad x41-2525 to version 2.07 it is resuming ok even without nosplash option #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-06 <crimsun> Trewas: excellent. I knew I had been recommended the latest bios for a reason. :-) <tritium> mjg59, crimsun: the kernel/display bug I mentioned a few days ago appears to be what Hobbsee reported in #61979 <crimsun> bug 61979 <tritium> yes <crimsun> (That was for Ubugtu, not you.) <tritium> sorry <crimsun> np :-) <tritium> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810/+bug/61979 <crimsun> tritium: so the workaround there also works? <tritium> since Ubugtu isn't responding. <crimsun> [works for you] <tritium> That I need to verify. <tritium> be right back... <tritium> Sweet, the workaround does work :) <tritium> My first time in X on a kernel version > 2.6.17-7 <crimsun> great :-) <tritium> Yeah! Good for an installed system, but how to work around it on a livecd? <tritium> i.e., I still can't install the beta <crimsun> good question. I'd use the alternate. <tritium> okay <tritium> At least the bug is confirmed, and High <crimsun> (rather, that there is a known workaround and a means of installing Edgy Beta) <tritium> Yes, you're right. Just have to download a new .iso now ;) <jldugger> i donno if thats exactly good for an installed system <jldugger> yea, it works better than X crashes <jldugger> but no acpi on a laptop is so 1999 <spanky_> Hello. Is there anyone here with a couple of minutes who is good with power management issues? I have a Toshiba satellite. Intel M 1.6Mhz and have been trying to get things running properly for a while now. It clocks the CPU at 600Mhz 100% It says CPU freq. Scaling is unsuported. And I have yet too hear the fan come on even thought he machine get's fairly warm. 53C right now. <jldugger> dont cook it <jldugger> dapper or edgy? <spanky_> dapper <jldugger> so when you run "sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd restart" <jldugger> what's it say? <spanky_> * Stopping powernowd: [ ok ] <spanky_> * Starting powernowd... * CPU frequency scaling not supported <spanky_> I'm sure it's just that I've missed some package or module somewhere but I can't for the life of me figure out which <jldugger> which model satellite? <spanky_> Satellite M30 Model #: PSM33C-YSJ00E <jldugger> at any rate if it gets above 65, turn it off, let it cool off and pop in the live cd, see if the same thing happens <jldugger> try "sudo lsmod | grep acpi" anything come out? <spanky_> yes toshiba_acpi 0 sony_acpi 0 pcc_acpi 0 dev_acpi 0 acpi_sbs 0 battery 1 acpi_sbs ac 1 acpi_sbs i2c_acpi_ec 1 acpi_sbs i2c_core 2 i2c_acpi_ec, nvidia <jldugger> interesting <jldugger> try "sudo lsmod | grep speedstep" <spanky_> I've had it for a while and have been fiddling trying to get the darn thing working properly so not sure if I've made it worse or better...well obviously not any better since it's still not quiet right <spanky_> no speedstep modules found <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading <jldugger> grab that script and lemme know what it suggestse <spanky_> speedstep-centrino <jldugger> next step, try putting that guy in the kernel <jldugger> "sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino" <spanky_> FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device <jldugger> hmm <jldugger> "cat /proc/cmdline" <spanky_> root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash <jldugger> hmm <jldugger> looking at launchpad, it seems that the Pentium Ms may have a bios bug <spanky_> I'm not a big poweruser and try not to toy with the kernel if at all possible. My experiences in gentoo showed that nothing good ever came from toying with what you don't understand <jldugger> heh <spanky_> launchpad? <jldugger> well, just wanted to check out how badly you'd screwed things up, but you seem okay so far <jldugger> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/28433 <jldugger> launchpad is a web service canonical uses for stuff like project management <jldugger> anyways <jldugger> "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq" <spanky_> FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device <jldugger> p4-clockmod? <spanky_> that installed <jldugger> excellent <jldugger> now try to restart powernowd <spanky_> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens <spanky_> powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit <spanky_> powernowd: cpu0: 75Mhz - 600Mhz (8 steps) <jldugger> hmm <spanky_> looks like a step in the right direction <jldugger> add a cpu frequency scaling monitor to your gnome-panel <spanky_> have 1 running and it's bouncing around between 400-600Mhz now <spanky_> but it's a 1.6Ghz Processor that still thinks 60Mhz is it's max <spanky_> 600mhz <Nailor> Do you have the latest bios onboard? <spanky_> in all honesty not sure. I've never tried to do bios updates using linux. Have always done them under windows as a quick download the exe and run <Nailor> You still got windows on that machine? <Nailor> Apparently the updating is possible if required bios update is burned on cd and installed from there, if windows is not present <Nailor> Dunno still will the bios update fix the problem <spanky_> Is there a manual way to tell the powernow daemon that it's got the max CPU speed wrong? Does it gget this from a config file somewhere? <Nailor> Well, one option would be shutting down powernowd <Nailor> Though, if the speedstep-centrino is not working, the scaling capabilities will be lost then <spanky_> I stopped powernowd and the CPU freq is still changing <Nailor> oh <Nailor> Not going over 600 though? <spanky_> still capped out at 600 <spanky_> ...and it's failing to restart #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-07 <judge> hi have a laptop which mostly works in dapper <judge> but in etch it's unusuable <judge> for some reason etch misconfigured the video hw and touchpad <judge> and didn't setup toshiba-keys <judge> this is toshiba r100 with trident video card <mjg59> etch or edgy? <judge> sorry, i meant edgy <mjg59> Misconfigured in what way? <judge> first of all <judge> both dapper and edgy select vesa as the video driver <judge> in dapper this works <Treenaks> etchy *runs for the hills* <judge> in edgy it just freezes x on startup <mjg59> What video hardware does it have? <judge> they should be selecting trident <mjg59> If you select trident, does it work? <judge> yes <mjg59> Ok. So that's easy enough to fix. <judge> there is a bigger problem <judge> xorg in edgy is broken for trident <judge> so it does work well enough to login <mjg59> In what way? <judge> but when you move windows around or scroll <judge> blitting seems to be broken <Treenaks> (exa?) <judge> so the display of that window gets garbled <judge> this is a regression in xorg i assume <mjg59> Quite likely <judge> are you bug databases linked in any ways? <judge> or should i be filing separately with them? <mjg59> File separately with them, we can link the bugs <judge> ok <judge> also, due to stupid bugs in trident driver <judge> should be booting with vga=791 <Treenaks> mjg59: did you ever see the crackful Ati stuff from my laptop? <mjg59> judge: Uh. <mjg59> judge: We can't do that. <judge> otherwise if you close the lid, the x res screws up <judge> and you have to switch to/from x <judge> to fix it <mjg59> Sorry, we'll have to fix the X driver <judge> ok <mjg59> Treenaks: Yes <judge> well switch it to use trident instead of vesa for now <Treenaks> afaik, the trident driver also has Xv crappiness going on <judge> yes <judge> xv doesnt work :) <Treenaks> mjg59: Dave Airlie asked me to mail him my video bios... I'm waiting for him to parse it now.. <judge> at least in dapper..didnt get far enough in edgy <Treenaks> judge: it works, but it crashes, on a friend's laptop <judge> ah, i just get a blue screen in the window <judge> anyways, what can i do to make sure that my laptop works in edgy at least as well as it does in dapper? <mjg59> judge: The hotkeys fix has just been submitted <mjg59> Which will possibly fix the vesa issue as well (don't ask) <mjg59> What does lspci -n give you for the video hardware? <judge> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1023:2100 (rev 91) <judge> Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 <--most unlucky video card one could get stuck with <judge> also unless they fixed stuff in the new xorg <judge> it would be nice if you could do Option "ShadowFB" "On" <judge> since the card is unaccelerated <mjg59> Seriously? <mjg59> Ouch. <mjg59> Ok, uploaded a new discover1-data with the card id in <judge> well the driver for this card i mean <judge> thanks <judge> how do i redetect x config? <judge> err, regenerate <mjg59> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <judge> ok <judge> i'll try that later today <judge> thanks a lot <mjg59> If you enable EXA, does the blitting work? <judge> i dont know how to enable exa <mjg59> Option "AccelMethod" "exa" <mjg59> In the device section for the card <judge> i'll try it <mjg59> May or may not help <judge> dude <judge> it does work <judge> the other bug that i found during the install was that it couldn't create xfs partitions <mjg59> judge: So it works if you use EXA? <judge> yes <mjg59> And not otherwise? <judge> right <mjg59> Ok <judge> well i can doublecheck <judge> let me disable it <mjg59> Can you file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-trident and mention that? <judge> can you make it default to exa for now? <judge> will do the bugreport <jldugger> mjg59, so is the toshiba acpi fix close to working? i just saw a patch last night <mjg59> jldugger: Yes <jldugger> sweet <jldugger> guess i wont reinstall dapper today then ;) <judge> ok confirmed that it's unusable without exa <judge> i have another problem <judge> do you have a workaround for this <judge> when i try to install fuse <judge> it gets stuck during configuration stage <judge> * Reloading kernel event manager... [ ok ] <mjg59> No idea, I'm afraid <mjg59> But might be related to the hotkeys not working <judge> seems to get stuck in a modprobe command <mjg59> Yeah <mjg59> Quite likely to be the hotkey issue <judge> ok <judge> what about my left alt key not working? <judge> ie alt-left doesnt go back <judge> in the browser <judge> err..right alt key isnt working..left one is <judge> is that just a keymap issue? <judge> ok xv is still broken in the same way as before..but with exa, x11 output methods seem to be efficient enough <captine> hi all. anyone here running 64 bit 6.06 on a turion notebook? <judge> multibattery stuff is broken too <judge> if one battery runs out of juice with the other stuff full edgy gets unhappy and tries to hibernate <Altair> Hey. Just a question. What /is/ Edgy? Like, what does it do special? <jldugger> Edgy is what comes after dapper <jldugger> like how vista comes after XP <Altair> Ah gotcha. Thanks. <jldugger> lemme give you a link explaining what it does special <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta <Altair> Sounds good. <jldugger> if you'd like to help out, the first thing to do is probably fill out a Laptop support page on the wiki, describing what works on your model and what doesn't <Altair> Mmkay. <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ has details on that, if you want. you should probably start with dapper if you've got that running now. <Altair> Heh... I /had/ it running but now I've done a reformat. I plan on running it again though. <jldugger> that'd be fantastic, so you can run through the installer again <jldugger> which laptop do you have? <Altair> Toshiba Satellite M70. <jldugger> ah <Altair> One issue I was having was with wireless networking. It worked fine on networks without passkeys, but when it came to using a network with WEP/WPA or whatever, it simply did not want to connect. <jldugger> i think someone else already has that model reported -- all you'd need to do is verify and maybe add some comments ;) <Altair> I couldn't figure out why. In any case, it was a minor issue that was probably my own unfamiliarity. <jldugger> edgy is still kinda buggy -- lots of toshiba laptops seem to be having problems. some dont start X; mine does but i cant use the fn keys =/ there's a patch out thats supposed to fix it, hopefully it makes it out soon <Altair> Yeah. Well, with all the people working on it, I'm sure something will get done. <Altair> The beauty of open source. <jldugger> sometimes the beauty of open source is that you're the only one with that hardware ;) <Altair> A very good point. #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-08 <judge> ok <judge> filed bugs against xorg regarding trident issues <judge> how do you fix hotkeys? <judge> dist-upgrade/reboot didn't do it for me <jldugger> which laptop? <mjg59> judge: Wait for the next kernel update <judge> ok <judge> so i'm using kubuntu, who's bug is that it tries to hibernate when only one of my batteries runs out of juice? <mjg59> kpwoersave, I suspect <judge> so it's not hal <judge> just their applet <judge> k <mjg59> Yeah <judge> also i get no graphical boot progress <judge> is that a known bug? <whyme> hey there - on 32-bit edgy, using the broadcom wireless drivers, are they supported natively by the kernel? <Treenaks> yes, but you'll need to get the firmware yourself <Treenaks> from the Windows driver <Treenaks> (you'll need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package for that) <whyme> right, so we're still at the stage dapper's at... ty <Treenaks> whyme: it's a license problem.. <hdd> hello <hdd> does somebody have strange spindown sounds with edgy? #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-10 <jldugger> fun. suspend-to-ram almost worked <jldugger> went down, came back up, but everything is bitching about io errors <SpacePuppy> cool.. whatmodel? <jldugger> toshiba tecra m7 <esac> anybody ak for a possibly simple dapper question <Infecto> somebady responsible for kernel sitting in here sometimes ? <jldugger> maybe you're looking for #ubuntu-kernel <jldugger> but i think a few of the kernel guys do exist here <jldugger> (mjg comes to mind) <Infecto> i`v got problems wit fan after suspend on my laptop <Infecto> and i want to ask somebody <mdke_> Infecto: best option is a bug report <Infecto> "linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10.29" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know" <Infecto> hmmm <giftnudel> take linux-source-2.6.17 #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-11 <O2_> hello <O2_> I wonder if we need to install something else to improve the video card? <Nailor> What video card? <O2_> when playing 3d games, I find it slower than in windows <O2_> mine laptop's video card is intel GMA900, 128MB <Nailor> Well, Intel offers some drivers for the video cards <O2_> really, what's its name? <Nailor> Well, xserver-xorg-driver-i810 should be in repos <mjg59> The Intel drivers are the same as the ones we ship <Nailor> And it's installed default (if I'm right) <Nailor> O2_: It just might be that the intel's drivers aren't performing as well in linus as in windows <O2_> my laptop: intel 915 chipset, not 810 <O2_> : ( what a sad news <Nailor> That package supports i9xx too <O2_> really <O2_> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-i810........................had been installed by default! <O2_> what a bad news................ <O2_> what video card is in your notebook? I wonder <Nailor> Nvidia 7400 go <O2_> how is it under linux ? <O2_> I wonder if GMA900 will be better running in fedora core <Nailor> Well, both use the same drivers. <Nailor> Since the drivers are provided by X.org, not the distribution. There's propably no speed advantage between distributions <Nailor> My nvidia is working nowdays well. When I bough the laptop, the driver support was poor <O2_> what cpu is your laptop then <Nailor> Core Duo 1,8GHz <O2_> did u know how to view the cpu speed in ubuntu <Nailor> For example with cpufreq-applet <Nailor> From Add to panel... -> CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor <Nailor> And if you want more detailed info, just cat /proc/cpuinfo <O2> oh, thanks. I got it 598.xxx MHz!! but my CPU is Pentium M 1.7GHz! why it's slowed down <Nailor> Someone else had similiar problems with his toshiba <Nailor> Apparently that's a kernel/bios bug, but I can't guarantee it <O2> I think it's because PM cpu would do that for saving battery <O2> but how to disable this feature <Nailor> That's not propably the problem <Nailor> Since proc/cpuinfo should report the native frequency <O2> but my laptop is very cool now I find. that must be it's running under low speed <Nailor> Well it propably runs at 600MHz <Nailor> But the problem is that it's not going to run faster, since the system thinks the maximum is 600 <Nailor> But anyway, I have to go now. :) <Nailor> Try, for example, updating bios to latest revision. Might help <O2> model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz <O2> cpu MHz : 598.651 <Nailor> Yeah, the latter (cpu MHz) should be 1.70 too <Nailor> Like in mine: <Nailor> model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz <Nailor> stepping : 8 <Nailor> cpu MHz : 1829.143 <Nailor> (my processors runs atm at 900Mhz) <Nailor> But anyway, got to go now. -> <O2> update bios....... I don't know if my mb's bios is newest <O2> ok, see you! <tormod> Hi, I am debugging some hibernation trouble on my laptop, and I am looking through hibernate.sh, prepare.sh, resume.d. Can anyone tell me why laptop-mode is stopped when the machine resumes again? <tormod> ok an easier question: pressing the sleep button does nothing. From syslog: gnome-power-manager: Doing nothing because the suspend button has been pressed. I can not find any setting in Power Management Preferences to change this. Am I missing something? #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-12 <tormod> gconf-editor shows action_button_suspend = nothing. But there is no way to change this is in the Preferences... <andrea_> hi! can i control cpu frequency or fan with ubuntu dapper? <andrea_> ehi! <andrea_> i have a toshiba notebook <andrea_> ehi can de dio! <andrea_> hi! can i control cpu frequency or fan with ubuntu dapper? <andrea_> hi! can i control cpu frequency or fan with ubuntu dapper? <TreMobyl> hey <TreMobyl> what is the status of the r300 driver in ubuntu? <mjg59> Ought to work <mjg59> Slightly less well on r400 chipsets <TreMobyl> I have rv350 <TreMobyl> do I need to do anything special? <TreMobyl> it doesn't seem to recognize my card, or I've not configured it properly <TreMobyl> mjg59: still around? <mjg59> Yeah <mjg59> You shouldn't need anything special <TreMobyl> am I missing a FAQ or something? <mjg59> It ought to just work in edgy <mjg59> What's the failure mode? <TreMobyl> ah, this is Dapper <mjg59> Oh, right <TreMobyl> maybe I just gotta be patient <mjg59> Might not be supported there <TreMobyl> any eta on dapper? <mjg59> Nope <TreMobyl> erm, edgy <mjg59> Oh <mjg59> 25th <TreMobyl> of October? <mjg59> 26th, rather <mjg59> Yeah <TreMobyl> awesome <TreMobyl> I ought to buy some CDs <TreMobyl> anything you need help with? <mjg59> Testing the current daily wouldbe good <TreMobyl> is it generally painful? <mjg59> Shouldn't be <TreMobyl> I just left Gentoo for Ubuntu because I wanted things to stop being annoying and broken <TreMobyl> so far, it's worked out quite well <TreMobyl> maybe I'm just too incompetent for gentoo. <TreMobyl> what do I need to point apt at to help out? <TreMobyl> should I be helping out with the whole enchilada, or just xorg/r300? <jldugger> TreMobyl, if its just a laptop with no serious worries, you might consider testing out the installer. otherwise if you just want to upgrade dapper, i think its like "gksdo update-manager -c -d" <jldugger> should attempt to fix up sources.list so that it works on edgy <TreMobyl> jldugger: thanks. I've just edited /etc/apt/sources.list and am in the process of downloading all of the new packages now <TreMobyl> should be done by morning <TreMobyl> jldugger: still there? * TreMobyl shrugs and goes to bed * TreMobyl wonders if xglx goodness will be waiting in the morning <jldugger> TreMobyl, im here, but kinda grading <jldugger> last time i tried xgl on my desktop it didnt pan out so well <echisenn> can i control cpu frequency or fan speed of my toshiba notebook with ubuntu? <echisenn> help me <echisenn> there'snt anyone??? <hub> I'm afraid to say that Edgy will be worse than Dapper for me <hub> because not only it break suspend on my thinkpad as Dapper did, but I can't even succeed to use the -19 kernel pre-Dapper that did work <TreMobyl> hub! <TreMobyl> that's not good news; I'm in the middle of upgrading (somehow, an anjuta package stomped on another package or vice versa) <hub> TreMobyl: the worse is that I'm the only one commenting the bug <hub> maybe I should just blog about it <Trewas> hub: what thinkpad model? my X41 works ok with nosplash boot-option, with splash (which is the default) it sometimes crashes on resume though a bios-update made that a bit less likely to happen <hub> Z60t <TreMobyl> hub: I'd confirm, but I don't have a thinkpad <TreMobyl> we'll see what happens with my Dell <TreMobyl> wonder if the network-manager bug was fixed in Edgy <TreMobyl> aww, my iceweasel plugins are going boom. :( <TreMobyl> is the lack of middle-click-opens-clipboard-url in ubuntu's firefox a bug or a feature? <TreMobyl> grr. Under high load, it appears that the click release event doesn't get through <hub> TreMobyl: depends of who you ask <hub> all firefox regressions are features <TreMobyl> hub: frustrated much? <hub> by firefox? yeah <TreMobyl> iceweasel! <hub> there tab handling is as crappy as Epiphany <TreMobyl> such a great name. :) <TreMobyl> comment a va? <TreMobyl> all browsers suck; links2 just sucks less? :) <hub> like mail client <hub> but when you switch to a browser for a specific feature and said feature is removed then it adds to the frustration <hub> btw this is OT here <sykvisii> need help configuring my sound card, no one in ubuntu will help <SS2> sykvisii: the topic says that this chan is no support chan ;) <sykvisii> well the general support channel is about as helpful as the jerry springer show <sykvisii> so i figured i'd chance this one #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-13 <GarBage> /etc/rc.local is not run, why? <GarBage> sorry, i am stroke brain <sa0> hi all <sa0> someone knows an easy way to modify acpi ? <Treenaks> "modify ACPI" <Treenaks> Go work for one of the companies who specced it, and get into one of the committees, I guess <sa0> ! <sa0> my pb is under ubuntu dapper drake with my asus W5, acpi detected is M2E model, so things don't work well <sa0> any solution <sa0> without having to patch and compile kernel <ubuntu> jemand erfahrung mit den aktuellen asus laptops? <ubuntu> hello. does anybody have some experiences with the new asus notebooks? <Guest_283> hello <Nailor_> hi <Guest_283> do you have any experiences with laptop built in webcams running by ubuntu <Nailor> Nope :( #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-14 <tritium> hi mjg59 <tritium> The ipw2200 quiesce patch must fix more than my former problem. 2.6.17-8 fixed my rebooting problem without the need for the quiesce patch, which I see is back as of .33 #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-15 <roostishaw> anyone in here on a macbook? <jldugger> im so lost on how this wacom-tools stuff works <jldugger> there's like four .debs built from that one package <Burgundavia> mjg59: is there a known bug where the touchpad is very non-responsive? <cjcastor> sup #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-16 <joejaxx> hey everyone i have ubuntu dapper on a thinkpad t42 <joejaxx> that laptop is not on the list for laptops being tested <joejaxx> how do i go about learning the procedures for the right documentation? <joejaxx> for the testing of this laptop? <joejaxx> nevermind i found a wiki #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-17 <sohail> hi, can someone help me debug this guy https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/66337 , it used to work in dapper <sohail> after not working in hoary #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-18 <tritium> crimsun: are you going to be in Mountain View? <crimsun> tritium: no. <tritium> crimsun: Oh, too bad. I was trying to see if I might be able to piggy-back a stop at Mountain View with a business trip. <crimsun> tritium: my release time request was denied. <tritium> Is that like a vacation request? <crimsun> nearly <tritium> Sorry to hear that. It's not for sure that I can go, and even if I do, it'll be only a day or two. <crimsun> hope you can make it <tritium> Thanks. <tritium> I'm often a few miles up the lauren32@example.com. <tritium> (Sunnyvale) <crimsun> ah <TreMobyl> wonder if my r300 bug is gonna get stomped before release <Nailor> Hmm. What kind of bug? <TreMobyl> hang <Nailor> If it's X-related and ATi driver related it's about ATi, not ubuntu. <TreMobyl> no, it's radeon drive related, not fglrx <Nailor> Oh. <TreMobyl> I'm hoping to leave my fglrx days behind me. <Nailor> Are you sure r300 works with radeon driver ok? <TreMobyl> I thought the r300 driver was merged into the radeon driver. <Nailor> Oh. Dunno. <Nailor> I'm a nvidia user <TreMobyl> anyhow, if it didn't support the chip, it wouldn't recognize the chip and latch on. <TreMobyl> and glxgears wouldn't hose my laptop. :) <Nailor> Point =) <jldugger> im still waiting to see if totem will stream from smb before release #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-19 <julian> anyone using edgy with ati card <jldugger> TreMobyl is <jsgotangco> mjg59: hey is it still a known issue that susped to disk still fails on toshiba? <TreMobyl> someone called a while back? <w0rd> who's here <gtaylor> jsgotangco: Suspend to disk works on my Toshiba Tecra A4 aside from restoring network interfaces <TreMobyl> anyone familiar with hacking gnumeric on ubuntu? <TreMobyl> specifically, what libs I need <Xardas2> hi <Nailor> hi <Xardas2> does anybody know if the samsung r55 chedsuma works good with linux? <Nailor> Did you check out the laptoptestingteam wiki? <Xardas2> ohh... i just saw the test: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/SamsungR55?highlight=%28samsung%29 sorry. i was in holydays and so i didn't look in the wiki ;) <Nailor> =) <TreMobyl> nm, I finally got things going #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-20 <Xardas2> nacht <s3lf> hi! I installed ubuntu 6.06.1 on my acer travelmate 800lci and try to get wlan work with WPA Encryption... <s3lf> without WPA it works wonderfully... <jeanjean> s3lf, what kind of network card do you use <s3lf> it 's a intel centrino build-in ... <s3lf> dmesg says ipw2200 <s3lf> I already starting wpa_supplicant <jeanjean> s3lf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136&highlight=wpa <jeanjean> s3lf, but I think its easier to use normal web enscryption <s3lf> I'll give this a try ... <s3lf> brb <s3l1> re <s3l1> it work's .. thanks .. I had to use -Dwext on wpa_supplicant, not -Dipw ... weird <Lure> mjg59: any idea regarding bug 63123 <Lure> mjg59: https://launchpad.net/bugs/63123 <mjg59> None <Lure> mjg59: this is the only remaining issue on my laptop <Lure> Treenaks: you have nw8240 too - do you also have this problem? ^^^ <Treenaks> Lure: no <Treenaks> Lure: my battery keeps working fine (or, it did, yesterday) <Treenaks> I only have the X problem (bug 20283) <Lure> Treenaks: strange... and I do not have your X problem... <Treenaks> which upstream is working on (I sent airlied my bios, because they asked) <Lure> it looks like that these machines are more different that you would thinks so <Treenaks> Lure: yeah, I'm puzzled by that too.. <Lure> maybe some DSDT bugs... <Lure> Treenaks: which FW version do you have? <Treenaks> Lure: no, it's a video bios parsing thing <Treenaks> Lure: Bios F.11 <Treenaks> 68DTV Ver F.11 <Lure> Treenaks: ok, I am at latest (F.14) <Treenaks> oh they released another set? <Treenaks> *boots into windows* <Lure> Treenaks: it took me a while to find a way to install it w/o windows ;-) <Treenaks> Lure: I still have windows, so no problem <Treenaks> hmmm: <Treenaks> Corrects installation issue that occurs with SUSE Linux. <Lure> Treenaks: maybe that is your issue (even though it is generic note) <Lure> interesting - my dsdt does not even compile with iasl :-( <Lure> anybody here known how to fix dsdt bugs? <Treenaks> flashing bios to F.14 <Treenaks> ... <Treenaks> the graphic displayed by the windows program is less than optimistic... <Treenaks> a chip with a fork of lightning on it <Lure> Treenaks: ;-) <Treenaks> Lure: problem is not fixed btw :( * Lure hugs Treenaks - this one really bothers you for a long.. <Treenaks> Lure: since I got the laptop, basically <Lure> Treenaks: I was also bothered when suspend to ram did not work but it did for some other nw8240 users <Treenaks> it works for me too #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-21 <scodil> ok i know this isn't a support channel, but this is a pretty specific question: acpi works for me just fine on the dapper livecd, but some upgrade broke it. ac events don't get through, and the battery meter never changes. what packages might have been changed between now and then, which would cause this? <defendguin> Edgy is starting to look pretty solid :-D <defendguin> I need some help to figure out when some keys on my laptop keyboard don't work #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-22 <tonyyarusso> mjg59: ping <cypher1_> for getting brightness controls in powermanagement do we have to load the laptop manufacturer specific module ? #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-24 <tritium> This laptop is ready to rock with edgy! <quail-laptop> this laptop is rocking with edgy <Solarion> this laptop is sucking, but not because of edgy. <tritium> Mine too, with the RC. I'm just stating that I certify it ready for the final release :) <Solarion> I want the r300 driver not to suck <Solarion> of course, I also want a pony. :( <Solarion> direct rendering: No <Solarion> :( <quail-laptop> does anyone under stand this error when i run glxinfo | grep render error = "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b" <quail-laptop> and the rest of the glxinfo | grep render is "direct rendering: Yes <quail-laptop> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20050225" <Fujitsu> quail-laptop: that's normal with the i810 driver, not sure why. <quail-laptop> Fujitsu: ok, so it basically nothing to worry about then <cypher1> do i have to do anything extra to get the brightness bar/control in AC/Battery tabs in the System->Preferences->Power Management #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-25 <Solarion> anyone know anything about bug 66547? <jhujhiti_> has anyone ever seen a synaptics touchpad act "inverted" with respect to tapping? mine is acting like a button is always down, and tapping releases it. it's not a hardware problem because I just booted a fedora install cd and it works fine #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-27 <Rage1248> Can I ask a question in here? <Lure> Rage1248: you already did ;-) <Rage1248> Heh, annother one. <Rage1248> Laptop setup? <Rage1248> Toshiba A30 touchpad not working. <Lure> yes <Rage1248> I have had this problem before. <Rage1248> I am currently using debian on the laptop with it working. <Rage1248> Cant remember how to get it working.. <Rage1248> Any ideas? <Lure> Rage1248: sorry, but do not know much abou touchpad support <Rage1248> ok, thanks, np. * Lure is more in power mgmt stuff <Rage1248> ah <Nailor> Damn. <Nailor> Edgy broke my laptop <Nailor> Brightness up -key restarts X :( <Nailor> Apparently the asus_acpi is not loaded correctly #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-28 <philwhln> Hi! What's the support like now for wpa wifi cards on laptops? Tried getting my Dad's laptop working with wpa on 6.06, but just couldnt get it working. Is there any improvement in this area with 6.10? <pir4> hi, i have a problem with my ADMTek8511 USB Ethernet adaptor, anyone can help me plz ? it loads perfect but i cant get my dhcp internet working :) <philwhln> don't think anyone's at home pir4 <philwhln> :S <pir4> i c <pir4> maybe you know something philwhln ? <pir4> i tried everything already <pir4> and beeing without internet is not fun as you should know :p <philwhln> yeah. my question was similar. don't know much about it I'm afraid <philwhln> i was wondering what the support was like for wpa wifi on 6.10. Couldnt get it work on 6.06 <pir4> :P <pir4> it should work without any prob <philwhln> worked fine on my laptop, but need to know whether it's worth installing it on my dad's laptop, because couldn't get wpa working with 6.06 <desi> How do I fix this Please help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28890/ #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-29 <hotlanta> hello all <nikk> i've got a problem with an ipw2200...can i find help here? <crimsun> what in particular? which release(s)? <BaNG> Hi all <NoobUbuntu> Can somone please help, This is rediciluos <NoobUbuntu> I have been trying to install Ubuntu for a year now and cannoot get it to work with nvidia proeprli <NoobUbuntu> Anyone please ? <jesper> Hi.. I've just installed Edgy on a newly arrived Dell Inspiron 6400, there are some "issues". <jesper> The textual terminals are not available on crtl+alt+F1<->F6 thats probably a framebuffer issue.. Is that known? <Nailor> jesper: what gfx card= <Nailor> ? <jesper> Nailor: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7145 according to lspci <jesper> dropping "splash" from grub's boot options solve the problem. <jesper> I also have problems getting a Broadcom (module: bcm43xx) working.. I have got the firmware plugged in .. and network manager did find the networks, but were unable to assosiate with them (likewise from the shell) <jesper> The last thing is that it doesn't detect the "wide" screen, so the screen it "stretched" in the vertical direction. <pitt0071> folks, anyone with inspiron 9300? :) #ubuntu-laptop 2006-10-30 <quail-laptop> hi all, does anyone know when Feisty Fawn is coming out for testing? if it is already out can someone lead me to were i can download a copy from as i can't find it <ajmitch> quail-laptop: seriously - edgy was released last week, why do you think there'll be *anything* to test? <ajmitch> work has barely started on it <quail-laptop> ok <Burgundavia> ajmitch: apparently not having the latest crack causes withdrawl in some people <ajmitch> obviously <quail-laptop> hehe <ajmitch> they must think that the development team can whip up a distro for testing over a weekend <quail-laptop> sorry for the stupid question /me goes back to his corner in shame * ajmitch would think it'd take significantly longer than that for buildds to just catch up with automated syncs <ajmitch> which will probably break everything <ajmitch> as useful as users are, the first few weeks aren't a good time to report bugs <quail-laptop> i not wanted to start reporting bugs, i just wanted to test it out <ajmitch> why? <quail-laptop> to me ages to start reporting bugs for edgy <iwkse> hi all. I'm having problems with cpu frequency scaling..can somebody help me? <iwkse> i downloaded cpufreqd <iwkse> and set /etc/modules with speestep-centrino <iwkse> it works..but im not able to change it by clicking on the icon <Nailor> You mean the gnome applet? <iwkse> Nailor: yes <Nailor> If so, do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets <iwkse> Nailor: ok,..i try <Nailor> It should ask you should cpufreq-selector have SUID bit set <Nailor> Say yes <iwkse> yes..its so <iwkse> it asks to me if i want cpufreq-selector with SUID root <iwkse> i should accept? <iwkse> ah <iwkse> yes <iwkse> i haven't read your reply <iwkse> cool <iwkse> :) <iwkse> it works now <iwkse> so everytime i add something i need to dpkg-reconfigure? <Nailor> no <Nailor> It's just that particular applet <iwkse> just the cpu applet? <Nailor> If cpufreq-selector is not set sith SUID root, it cannot change the frequency <iwkse> yes, i catch now <Nailor> and the default install doesn't set suid root, so that's why the reconfigure <iwkse> ok.. <iwkse> thanks for your support <Nailor> No problem :) <iwkse> :) <iwkse> just another little thing...my wireless card is working...i mean, when i iwconfig i see it and i can start it manually with ifconfig. Thats normal? <Nailor> yup <iwkse> isn't up by default? <Nailor> Oh. <Nailor> Should be <iwkse> that i though too <Nailor> You could try though a different approach <iwkse> rc.local? <Nailor> There's a gnome package, network-manager-gnome, which adds a nice applet and daemon to control the wireles <iwkse> ah good... <Nailor> Could solve your problem <iwkse> :) <iwkse> ubuntu is really great <Nailor> plus gives a nice point-and-click interface for connecting to wireless networks <Treenaks> (and it supports WPA) <Nailor> YUp <iwkse> cool <iwkse> how's called the applet? <iwkse> i just see network monitor <Nailor> Have you installed it? <iwkse> yes <Nailor> If so, you need to restart X, by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace <Nailor> it should appear in the notification area <iwkse> ah ok <Nailor> It's not really an applet, but an notification icon <iwkse> now i catch.. <iwkse> so i don't need to add it <iwkse> i'll kill the X without restarting <iwkse> see ya soon :p <Nailor> Wellcome back. :) <iwkse> :) <iwkse> you was right..its really nice applet <Nailor> =) <Nailor> Apparently it works <iwkse> it found also my modem:) <Nailor> Great =) <iwkse> :) <iwkse> it seems to work good:) <iwkse> i remembered another little lack... <iwkse> when i run gconf-editor <iwkse> cause i wanna show icons on desktop, eg. computer <iwkse> it wont show also when i select it <iwkse> so..lets try again <iwkse> yap <iwkse> it works now :o) <Nailor> Nice to hear. <iwkse> everything works... <iwkse> thats nice <Nailor> Not on my laptop :( <Nailor> Upgrading from Dapper to Edgy broke my brightness control <Nailor> Brightness up -hotkey restarts X <Nailor>
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