#ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-01 <dantalizing> morning <mhall119> morning <jck77> hello everybody <Shmolf> Hello. there is an app called firc, used to open irc on the android phone <Shmolf> It rocks. But the text preview is small <dantalizing> hey shmolf <dantalizing> Shmolf: where ya been? <dantalizing> Shmolf: irssi connectbot is also available on android. kinda nice. <Shmolf> Ok l try that. Finally finished school #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-02 <mhall119> jamalta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8mUTHO6P8k <mhall119> wrong link <mhall119> jamalta: http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/2011/02/the-dark-side-of-the-cloud/ <mhall119> I don't even know where I got that youtube link from <crashsystems> hello florida <ShawnR> hello <ShawnR> that penguin is hilarious <ShawnR> so just curious, when lookingat my apt sources list... do i really need the (source) entry as well as the normal entry? <mhall119> it's not necessary, but it is fun <ShawnR> so when the source is erroring out for virtualbox... unchecking it will do no harm <mhall119> I believe the source repo is only used when you "apt-get source" sp,etjomg <ShawnR> but when you apt-get update, it gets the list from both <ShawnR> maybe it only DLs if you apt-get source? <mhall119> yeah <mhall119> itnet7: <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/ <mhall119> LoCo Directory Meetings are live! <MichelleQ> I so misread that as "Loco Disney Meetings". <mhall119> I wish <mhall119> but sadly, python doesn't have an "import disney <mhall119> " <MichelleQ> boo <mhall119> yeah <ShawnR> clearly so upset about not meeting at disney, she left <mhall119> for bed no less <reya276> Morning Everyone <mhall119> morning reya276 <tiemonster> groan <mhall119> Jono just announced that UDS-P will be back in Orlando! <maxolasersquad> mhall119: Woot! <maxolasersquad> mhall119: Link? <mhall119> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon <mhall119> it's a live videocast <maxolasersquad> Did he say the dates? <mhall119> nope <mhall119> but probably end of October, early November <maxolasersquad> He told me at the UDS it would be so, but it is good to have it official <MichelleQ> is it finally official? <mhall119> Jono just told everybody listening to his podcast <mhall119> so if it's not 'official', it is 'out' <MichelleQ> official enough for me. <mhall119> me too <maxolasersquad> We've got to throw the most awesome party possible. <mhall119> we did that last time * MichelleQ is already planning. :-) * maxolasersquad wonders what MichelleQ has up her sleeve. <maxolasersquad> mhall119: That explains why they're coming back then. <mhall119> I'd like to think so <MichelleQ> maxolasersquad: tee hee! I'll never tell. <munz> anyone know how to make ircd-hybrid ask for a password to connect to it for a private irc server? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-03 <Chloric> evening florida <itnet7> mhall119: Very nice!!! (the meetings being live!!) I am about to restart my server shortly, so I'll be back on in a bit <tiemonster> are there any git superstars in here? <tiemonster> what about dd superstars? <mhall119> tiemonster: whatcha trying to do? <tiemonster> git - nested deps <tiemonster> dd - server backup <tiemonster> mhall119: <reya276> Morning Everyone <mhall119> tiemonster: rsync would probably be more efficient for backups <tiemonster> for an entire filesystem? <mhall119> dd will copy the entire drive, including unused space <tiemonster> ah <reya276> Does anyone know if they have Evernote for Ubuntu? <zoopster> reya276: no evernote for ubuntu <zoopster> reya276: unless you want to use wine or maybe nevernote <reya276> nevernote? <reya276> is it the same as evernote <zoopster> not sure <zoopster> it says it will work with evernote, but it not supported by evernote <reya276> hey if I wanted to update this http://piwik.org/docs/update/ application following the one click approach what are the permissions I should set the directory to? <maxolasersquad> reya276: Not sure. I didn't see in the documentation what permissions where needed to make the one-click work. <reya276> no it did not say, thanks I got it #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-04 <imon> anyone know how to set up ircd-hybrid to make user supply a password to connect?? <imon> echo..... <imon> anyone know how to set up ircd-hybrid to make user supply a password to connect?? <govatent> RoAkSoAx, ping <RoAkSoAx> govatent pong <imon> anyone around? <govatent> I am, but I don't have an answer to that. <govatent> sorry <RoAkSoAx> govatent what up? <govatent> nothing much <govatent> may i pm you? <RoAkSoAx> lol u dont have to ask me man go ahead <RoAkSoAx> govatent ^^ <imon> thanks n e way govatent <imon> anyone around? <mianosm> FRIST <mhall119> lol <munz> mhall119, u know much about ircd-hybrid irc server? <munz> ping mhall119 <mhall119> munz: pong <mhall119> nope, I've never used ircd-hybrid <mhall119> sorry <munz> :( txanx <munz> kno any one who has? <mhall119> does it have documentation? <mhall119> no, I've never even heard of it before you asked <munz> yea some, just confusing sorta <mhall119> :( <munz> set it up for internal use @ work <munz> inter office private irc chat <munz> want to push a port forward through for out of office use for pc's and phones <munz> but want to make it ask for a password to connect <munz> just cant figure it out <munz> :( <tiemonster> munz: ssh SOCKS5 proxy <munz> can i run android through that? <tiemonster> oh <munz> yea bosses phone is the stump...hust be easy too <munz> *must <tiemonster> I don't have an android phone <tiemonster> I don't know if it's possible to set a proxy or not <tiemonster> I've never heard of a password-protected IRC server, though <tiemonster> don't know if it exists <munz> kinda just figured maybe at some point someone would have had the need... <munz> guess if i dont it wont be that bad <munz> just dont want to create any vulnerabilities <tiemonster> SOCKS5 proxy would be the rest way, IMHO <munz> cool, thanx :) <tiemonster> set up public keys, and they wouldn't even need to remember a password, unless they put one on their key <munz> ok <munz> thanx :) <maxolasersquad> munz: Have you looked into setting up a Jabber server? <munz> no same basic idea? <maxolasersquad> Kinda, it's a chat server, but you could have a group chat. <munz> cool i'll look in to it <maxolasersquad> It's what GTalk uses, and AIM I believe too. <munz> ok, so prob no issues w/android client then huh? <maxolasersquad> jabberd2 is in the repos. <maxolasersquad> No, you should be able to connect with an Android phone. <munz> sweet, thanx bro <maxolasersquad> There's something called jabber-irc in the repos, that might help get you where you want too. not sure. <munz> k <maxolasersquad> You can now browse the Android market and install apps on your phone, from your desktop at http://market.android.com/ <munz> cool maxolasersquad, thx 4 the ideas <reya276> Hello Everyone <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-05 <maxolasersquad_h> dantalizing: ping #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-06 <Chat3904> hey guys <rc27chino> sup <mhall119> ~. <mhall119> whoops #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-07 <reya276> morning everyone <reya276> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/02/07/flaming-retort-cooling-the-linux-users/ <maxolasersquad> reya276: I think the attitude that you can run Linux and be lazy with your security is very harmful. <maxolasersquad> At dslreports.com there have been a couple threads with people who have Linux boxes having security issues. They seem to revolve around the idea the user had that they could just od whatever and not worry about it. <reya276> I agree, but I'm not 100% sure I agree with the article <reya276> specially what he is claiming when it comes to OS architecture <reya276> I have all my system with ClamAV and ChrootKit and I run them every month <reya276> just to be sure <maxolasersquad> I do disagree with him that Linux users should run A/V to keep other Windows users from being infected. <maxolasersquad> I'm not running crap on my computer. <reya276> I mean I'm no expert but just from what I have seen on the surface the two OS are extremely different in every way <reya276> and that is just in the surface I can just imagine the inner workings of it <maxolasersquad> Ubuntu is more secure out of the box, and the security it imposes on the users are a lot more sane than Windows as well. <reya276> well like I said the only thing I run is what Ubuntu recommends which is Clamav(if you want AV protection) and Chrootkit just for piece of mind, I don't do it with the intentions of keeping Windows users safe <reya276> be yes, I think the guy is a pro-windows advocate whom is "Claiming" let's all working together crap and starting a flame war just for the sake of starting one <reya276> I just wanted to hear what everyone here thought about that because it just seems weird to me that someone would say that the two OS are a lot alike <reya276> if that were the case then I would have never ever switched from Windows to Ubutu <maxolasersquad> reya276: Perhaps he meant that the user has a graphical environment where one can click icons to open programs and files, a trashcan, a home directory, etc. <zbrown> dantalizing: wooo you going to IO? <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: pong <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: pm <tiemonster> My classmate keeps having trouble with AVG declaring git to be a virus. He asked me how to fix it, and I said, "wipe Windows off of your computer" <tiemonster> :-P <maxolasersquad> tiemonster: How is your app to end all apps going? <tiemonster> haven't started yet <tiemonster> our first project was to submit a patch to an open source project <tiemonster> we're finishing up our patch for Node.js <maxolasersquad> What's the patch do? <tiemonster> implement some missing Win32 functionality <tiemonster> anyways, off to class <reya276> maxolasersquad, LOL...yeah I guess that is the extend of the likeness and that is where it ends too #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-08 <DammitJim> was someone on here using Mint? <DammitJim> mint anyone? <crashsystems> DammitJim: I use mint <DammitJim> crashsystems, aren't you scared? <mhall119> of mint? <crashsystems> scared of what? <crashsystems> giving mint the password to my bank account? <DammitJim> yes... to all my accounts * DammitJim just did it <crashsystems> well, I figure that if anyone is going to go after my online banking, they are going to attack my bank's site, not mint. <crashsystems> plenty of ways to attack banking sites <DammitJim> lol <DammitJim> true <DammitJim> it's just scary 'cause Mint now knows everything about my finances <crashsystems> I've seen some scary crap on financial service websites <DammitJim> I wanted to stick to QUicken or the debian version <DammitJim> but I need something online <crashsystems> I did a little something extra to protect my mint account though <crashsystems> with mint your email address is your user id, and they accept email addresses of the form rodriguezcrystal@example.org <crashsystems> so I have a plus sign in my user name, and then a random string. makes brute forcing kinda difficult for someone who is starting with my email address <crashsystems> of course, just creating a separate email for mint would be better <DammitJim> good point <crashsystems> besides, I don't think so many people use mint that it would be a more attractive target than say, bank of america. <DammitJim> that's true <DammitJim> I wish I could remove categories from Mint <crashsystems> I need to configure my budget <DammitJim> that's why I'm doing this... my wife and I have to get it done... money is leaking somewhere LOL <crashsystems> since I have not configured it, it made an auto-budget based upon the past three months of account activity. those three months for me were the last three I was unemployed, so the budget was a bit off <DammitJim> where are you at now? <DammitJim> btw, can you go older than 3 months? <crashsystems> I'd get emails like the one right after I purchased my laptop, saying things like "unusual spending in electronics. you spent $1,200 in electronics last month, and you usually spend $2." <crashsystems> I'm in Sunnyvale california. <crashsystems> I don't know <DammitJim> lol <DammitJim> california? how is sunnyvale? <DammitJim> what are you doing? <crashsystems> I'm working at WhiteHat Security. Basically customers hire us to find security vulnerabilities in their websites. <DammitJim> wow <DammitJim> you are good at that stuff! good luck with it <crashsystems> thanks <DammitJim> dammit... T-mobile is going to have free phones on the 11th and 12th! <crashsystems> "free" <DammitJim> I hope they don't jack up the price of the monthly web <DammitJim> 2 year contract :) <DammitJim> my wife is up for renewal <DammitJim> and she lost her G2 2 weeks ago :( <crashsystems> Whenever I'm at home my phone number is routed over WiFi. Its my little way at getting (slightly) even with telcos <DammitJim> is there a way to get mint to color code stuff? <DammitJim> how do you do that, crashsystems ? <crashsystems> I don't know. I've not really used the web interface beyond setting up the account. <crashsystems> I've got a gizmo5 account, and Gingerbread has built in voip <crashsystems> you can do it with sipgate though too <DammitJim> gizmo5? sipgate? <DammitJim> are those free services? <DammitJim> is that similar to google voice? <crashsystems> gizmo5 is a freemium service, but they were bought by google and registration is closed <crashsystems> same thing with sipgate, sans google and registration is still open <crashsystems> http://crashsystems.net/2010/04/google-voice-gizmo5-sipdroid/ <-- info about my setup pre android 2.3 <DammitJim> what's your upstream internet? <crashsystems> comcast <crashsystems> its kinda funny, I'm in the middle of silicon valley, and I still only have one choice of internet provider. <DammitJim> lol <DammitJim> we are behind in internet services for Americans still.... <DammitJim> so, there is no sip stuff I can do with my Nexus S? <crashsystems> sure there is <DammitJim> for a price? <crashsystems> you could do the exact same setup I have, but using sipgate instead of gizmo5 <DammitJim> I know T-mobile lets you use WiFi, but they still use up your minutes <crashsystems> sipgate is free for incoming calls <crashsystems> with my setup, every call, even outgoing, is technically incomming when on wifi <DammitJim> how is that? <crashsystems> I should really write a blog post about it <DammitJim> yeah ;) <DammitJim> have you tried Tango? that's worked great for me <crashsystems> In fact, I think I'll do that. <crashsystems> nope. what is it? <DammitJim> oh man, you have the nexus 1, not the s, right? <DammitJim> it's for video conferencing <crashsystems> correct <DammitJim> and video streaming is pretty good <crashsystems> nice. I've been using gtalk on my laptop for video conferencing <DammitJim> google talk? <crashsystems> yep <DammitJim> never tried it <crashsystems> well, when you are doing video chat on your Nexus S, technically you are using it. <DammitJim> hhhmm <crashsystems> they have a browser plugin that lets users use voice/video chat right in the gmail interface <crashsystems> http://www.google.com/chat/video <DammitJim> alright, enough of this <DammitJim> I better hit the sack if I want to do any android dev tomorrow <crashsystems> goodnight <DammitJim> see ya man <DammitJim> thanks for all the info <DammitJim> where did mike go? <DammitJim> ... or mhall119 ... <dantalizing> morning <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: sry i missed you the other day <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: It's cool. I don't really expect people to be on much on the weekends. <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i have a jabber notification setup, so that I'd get notifications on google talk, but apparently i borked it somewhere along the way :( <dantalizing> mmmmm..... jabber borking <maxolasersquad> Do you have information on how to set that up? <dantalizing> somewhere <dantalizing> i'll check <dantalizing> its an irssi script <jck77> good morning <dantalizing> morning jck77 <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: https://github.com/chmouel/irssi-xmpp-notify <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Awesome. I don't have a clue what I was pinging you for. <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I remember now. I was hoping you would take a look at http://code.google.com/r/maxolasersquad-osmand/ for me. <maxolasersquad> I made some modifications, which cause the app to crash when my GPS Location changes. <maxolasersquad> I added a new configuration so the user could choose MPH or KPH, and then display the speed according to the option chosen. <maxolasersquad> The problem appears to be in my implementation of the option. <maxolasersquad> This is my first shot at doing any coding on Android. <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i'll play with it tonight ... see if I find something <maxolasersquad> I greatly appreciate it. I've restepped everything I did and I don't see a problem. <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I'm pretty sure the problem lies somewhere in my implementation of the ListPreference #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-09 <itnet7> mhall119 I am kind of stuck at our home owners association meeting. I am not sure I will make it out of here in time to attend tonights meeting <itnet7> if we don't have one tonight, then I would like to get together with you to find the best way to handle mwetings with the LD integration <itnet7> ttyiab <mhall119> itnet7: I'll be happy to chair tonight's meeting <mhall119> though the only agenda item is about the new meeting feature <mhall119> doh, and I fail at UTC time <MichelleQ> I think everyone rodriguezcrystal@example.org. <mhall119> yeah, we already have a bug report to do something about that <mhall119> if anyone has anything to dicuss in tonight's meeting, go ahead and add it to http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/ <mhall119> cjohnston crashsystems dantalizing himuraken jamalta jtatum mianosm1 munz rmcbride RoAkSoAx ShawnR statik zbrown zoopster 30 minutes until the team meeting <MichelleQ> what time is the meeting? UTC requires I math. <mhall119> in about 5 minutes <mhall119> cjohnston crashsystems dantalizing himuraken jamalta jtatum mianosm1 munz rmcbride RoAkSoAx ShawnR statik zbrown zoopster Meeting time <mhall119> #startmeeting <mhall119> hey, where's mootbot? <zoopster> o/ from sunny california <mhall119> whatcha doing in cali? <zoopster> workin' <zoopster> meetings with Canonical partners <mhall119> ah, gotta make money for the man <zoopster> yea <mhall119> okay, well it seems we're going bot-less tonight <zoopster> can't get mootbot to join again? <mhall119> how do you get it to join? <akgraner> OMG you killed mootbot... <MichelleQ> mootbot's probably in cali with zoopster <mhall119> akgraner: it was an accident, i swear! * akgraner apologizes for the random outburst there and slinks back to the NC channel :-) <mhall119> you know we're always happy to see you <mhall119> okay, meeting agenda is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/ <mhall119> unlike previous meetings, our agenda is no longer in the wiki, it's now on the LoCo Directory <mhall119> which brings us to our first topic <mhall119> [TOPIC] Discuss new LoCo Directory features * mhall119 pretends mootbot is still here doing' it's job <zoopster> hopefully akgraner will help mootbot find it's way back <mhall119> so cjohnston and I, along with the other loco-directory developers, have added Meeting tracking to http://loco.ubuntu.com to go along with the Event tracking we've been using it for <mhall119> any team member can create/edit meetings for the team <mhall119> they can also add/edit agenda items for any of our team's meetings <zoopster> woop! great job! \o/ <mhall119> from now on we should use this for planning our IRC meetings <rmcbride> indeed Great job! <mhall119> because it's much easier to extract useful data from LD than the wiki <mhall119> and eventually this will automatically feed our montly team reports <mhall119> so please use it, report any bugs you encounter of features you wish it had <mhall119> it's a new feature, and we're looking for ways to improve it <mhall119> our next meeting is already up there: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/14/detail/ so you can add agenda items to it at any time <mhall119> any questions about LD or the meeting feature before I move on? <cjohnston> o/ <mhall119> you have a question? <mhall119> or just signaling that you're here? <mhall119> okay, moving along <mhall119> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Developer Week <cjohnston> saying hi <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek <mhall119> Starting Feb. 28th is the next developer week <mhall119> for anybody who doesn't know what that is, it's a week long series of online (over IRC) classes about developing for and on Ubuntu <mhall119> on Mar. 2nd at 1700 UTC cjohnston and I will be teaching a class on how to get started hacking on the LoCo Directory <mhall119> if anybody is interested in getting involved in this project with us, that'll be a good way to get started <mhall119> any questions? <mhall119> okay, gonna be a short meeting <mhall119> last one <mhall119> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Global Jam <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/ <mhall119> The next Global Jam is scheduled for April 1st (not my idea) <mhall119> for those who don't know what a Global Jam is, it's an excuses to get together with other people in the loco team or other groups and work on something Ubuntu related <mhall119> people hold bug jams where they triage and/or fix bugs <mhall119> documentation jams where they write/edit documentation <mhall119> packaing, translations, testing and all kinds of other jams <MichelleQ> I've failed to be paying attention. Anything I need to be doing? <mhall119> all you need is a small space for people to gather and something you want to do <mhall119> if you want to hold a jam near you, just add it to the link above and let the rest of us know so we can attend if possible <mhall119> [TOPC] Open... <mhall119> anybody have anything else they want to talk about before we end the meeting? <MichelleQ> ... nope. Nothing that I can think of <mhall119> akgraner: how was FUDcon? <akgraner> very interesting * itnet7 is here, sorry I'm late <akgraner> I didn't realize how many people I knew there <akgraner> but it is very different from UDS <mhall119> I think you know 50% of the FLOSS community by now <akgraner> nah - I wish I did <mhall119> oh, word on the street is that UDS is coming back to Orlando this fall! <rmcbride> It is <rmcbride> YAY <akgraner> sweet... <itnet7> That's going to rock! <rmcbride> I think it was pretty much a done deal before the last one was over. Everyone was very happy with the venue, from what I was told <mhall119> itnet7: did you have anything you wanted to talk about before I end the meeting? <itnet7> Not really, but thanks so much for holding it! <mhall119> no problem <mhall119> #endmeeting * mhall119 continues to pretend Mootbot is here <itnet7> awsomeness <itnet7> akgraner: you seriouls made the plunge? Are you vegan? or just vegetarian <itnet7> s/seriouls/seriously/ <akgraner> just vegetarian <akgraner> I know right...it's hard for me to believe <itnet7> That rocks, good for you! <mhall119> aw, I was going to make BBQ for the next UDS <itnet7> Well if you're doing it to help you feel better <itnet7> then kudos <itnet7> +1 mhall119 ! <akgraner> itnet7, yeah needed to make some changes... <itnet7> I have been trying to get more exercise myself... need to work on the diet too, but not sure what will work for me <itnet7> I need some serious help :-P <mhall119> akgraner: I'll smoke some veggies for you then <akgraner> mhall119, awww thanks! <itnet7> Smoked veggies rock too! <mhall119> speaking of, has anyone heard from pak33m lately? <itnet7> I talked to him last week for a bit, he was doing well <mhall119> okay, good <itnet7> I was gonna try to see if everyone might want to meet up soon in either Orlando or Lakeland geocache <mhall119> oh, geocaching <itnet7> s/geocache/and geocache/ <itnet7> Yeah, I thought we could do it as a family fun event <MichelleQ> sure * MichelleQ resumes paying attention again. <itnet7> At some park, unless you guys feel like traveling and camping out at Jonathan Dickinson State Park <cjohnston> lets meet up next week in vegas <itnet7> cjohnston: bet! <itnet7> yeah right <cjohnston> I'll be there <mhall119> lol <mhall119> cjohnston: if you're paying, we'll be there <cjohnston> im not paying <itnet7> :-) <MichelleQ> sign me up <MichelleQ> oh dammit <cjohnston> leaving friday headed to NC, then end of next week is vegas <itnet7> Nice! <MichelleQ> itnet7: if you decide to geocache this direction, let us know. <MichelleQ> We'll fire up the smoker for dinner. <itnet7> :-) <itnet7> I will check and see how many caches are near you guys! <MichelleQ> sounds good <itnet7> I just finished a 5 stage cache that required close to 20 miles of hiking <MichelleQ> holy mackerel <itnet7> but that was a personal goal/challenge <MichelleQ> we'd have to do a kid-friendly one. * itnet7 is trying to get back in shape <itnet7> Sure! <MichelleQ> a particular kid-with-muscle-fatigue-issues one. <itnet7> I will check online and see if any of the parks near you have any <itnet7> most of them are stroller accessible <MichelleQ> he's got a wheel chair, so distance isn't an issue, as long as it's accessible <itnet7> that will work <itnet7> are there any nature preserves or county parks near you that you guys really enjoy visiting? <itnet7> I will check there first <MichelleQ> hhm. Lake Parker Park's really kid-friendly and accessible, but not big <MichelleQ> there's the Van Fleet trail - that might have something interesting. http://www.bikingflorida.com/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=21 <itnet7> Wow, at Lake Parker Park there are 227 hidden caches within a 5 mile radius <mhall119> they have a nice playground too <MichelleQ> nice <MichelleQ> it's a really nice plave <MichelleQ> place,even <itnet7> :-) <MichelleQ> itnet7: signing up for geocaching.com - :-) <MichelleQ> We're TheSuperHalls <mhall119> lol <itnet7> MichelleQ: sweet! <itnet7> It's definitely fun, and good exercise <MichelleQ> Figured I'd remember that <itnet7> Nice! <itnet7> Just send you a friend request through there <MichelleQ> so, there are, supposedly, 25k caches within 10 miles of us. <itnet7> 25k?? <itnet7> wow! <itnet7> 2500? <mhall119> yeah, but probably 10k of them are all one one guy's yard <itnet7> There is like 4000 in brevard <MichelleQ> no. 25k <itnet7> WOw! <MichelleQ> it returned 25543 results for a search for our zip within 10 miles <itnet7> Ah! <MichelleQ> I did a double take <itnet7> that includes all cache types though <MichelleQ> dunno - no clue <itnet7> Yeah, When I visit by then I'll learn to filter and will let you guys know what I learn <itnet7> You have an android phone right? <itnet7> you can install c:geo <itnet7> and add your geocaching.com account <MichelleQ> yeah, I've got an android <MichelleQ> ok, will do <mhall119> anyone got an interesting little FLOSS project they'd like to talk about during UDW? http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/ <mhall119> woohoo Mootbot-UK is back@ <mhall119> ! <amouge> hey just in case anyones interested, I have an entry level php position full time in tampa <amouge> hey tiemonster <akgraner> itnet7, mhall119 and zoopster - see mootbot-uk :-) it's in your channel now..let me know if you need to know anything about this one there is really on one difference in the -uk and the old one <reya276> Morning Everyone <tiemonster> amouge: hi. sorry. I rodriguezcrystal@example.org. <itnet7> akgraner: ? <itnet7> Alan added some stuff? <akgraner> itnet7, yep I'll get you the how to I wrote for it <itnet7> Sweet thanks! <amouge> all good <mhall119> akgraner: I think we'd been using mootbot-uk <mhall119> it's just that something happened to it <reya276> does anyone know when we will get the flash update http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/flash-player-10-2-released-with-stage-video-hardware-acceleration/ <DammitJim> is there a google chrome channel? <DammitJim> someone at work got his CR-48 <DammitJim> I want mine, dammit!!! <reya276> yeah I too applied for one, but I have not gotten a response from google or the device either <dantalizing> morning <DammitJim> afternoon, dantalizing <DammitJim> reya276, they don't tell you anything! they just show up! <DammitJim> I want one!!! someone here at work just bought an acer one for 199 with a free cover at target or something <reya276> hey Dan <reya276> DammitJim, oh that is cool <reya276> DammitJim, so for $200 bucks they got one at Target? <mhall119> not the CR-48 <mhall119> you can probably get a $200 Atom CPU netbook for $200 at target <DammitJim> yeah, talking about the acerone <mhall119> ah, ok <crashsystems> The CR-48 is nice. <DammitJim> do you have one, crashsystems ? <crashsystems> no, but a few coworkers were hunting security vulns on one, and I got to hold it for a few minutes. <jck77> hello everyone <jck77> I heard that to that the CR-48 is a nice netbook <crashsystems> it is. ubuntu would be great on it <jck77> are they still sending it with the pilot program? I applied but never received a message back :( <DammitJim> crashsystems, ubuntu flies on it <DammitJim> jck77, I heard the 3rd batch is on its way <zillar> it's a beautiful notebook <DammitJim> a co-worker just got it 4 days ago <DammitJim> and I've seen some posts of people getting them today <jck77> DammitJim: great, but do they let you know before via email that you were selected? <DammitJim> nope, I heard that they are just showing up at doorsteps <jck77> ohh <jck77> great to know then <DammitJim> good luck to us all <zillar> oddly, that's contrary to the sign-up form <zillar> "We'll review the requests that come in and contact you if you've been selected. " <jck77> thats why I asked <jck77> we really need luck I guess there is a lot of people applying <jck77> what makes me mad is that there is people that received and they are selling it. so they dont care about improving neither giving feedback about the netbook <DammitJim> selling it? <jck77> yeap <jck77> look on ebay <jck77> google should track those mf and blacklist them from any google service <DammitJim> http://ocala.craigslist.org/sys/800.716.0984.html <jck77> thats what pissed me offff <dantalizing> same with google io ... people just wanting to sell free stuff from the goog <DammitJim> dammit... <mhall119> jim <MichelleQ> bob? <DammitJim> do you guys know of a fax machine that you can check remotely to see if it has received a fax? <dfused> make the secretary do it <reya276> so what is the deal on the USB hack <dantalizing> theres a usb hack? <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Did you get a chance to look at the osmand code? <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: downloaded it and tried to build, but kept getting errors and didnt have time to dive too deep ... at a high level, the code looks fine <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: do you have logcat output? <maxolasersquad> I don't know. <maxolasersquad> Would that be on my phone, or in Eclipse? <dantalizing> hmm... i alway use the command line <dantalizing> start up the app in an emulator or phone ... <dantalizing> then "adb logcat" <dantalizing> you'll at least get the java exception <reya276> before I rudely got kickout the channel, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfYBa1EHm4 <reya276> what is up with that, security risk on Linux <dantalizing> reya276: i need at least 51:07 to understand <reya276> huh? <dantalizing> well just opening the video doesnt really give anyone a chance to understand the issue <dantalizing> first i heard of it <dantalizing> reya276: is it really a usb exploit or just using autorun to exploit apps? <reya276> bah, nevermind this is all BS, the guy is talking about an Ubuntu OS that has not been patched and running without no security, he also does not show how you can compromise the system <reya276> so it seems like an FUD video <reya276> ok here is the writen version http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09/linux_autorun_problems/ <dantalizing> i would doubt that its total fud if he's standing up at shmoocon to demo it <dantalizing> so this is not a usb hack, this is configuration and app hacking <reya276> ok, great so this is legit which is exactly what I wanted to know <reya276> so this guy is actually talking about something that can be done <reya276> specially to Ubuntu system <reya276> I say not good <dantalizing> The demo relied on taking advantage of a flaw in GNOME Evince document viewer that was patched in January <dantalizing> even so, was kind of "weak" because it was shown on a machine with in-built exploit mitigation disabled, as Larimer himself clearly explains. <reya276> ah ok so this was patched <maxolasersquad> Last month I saw two different people complain about having their Linux box hijacked. One guy took no security precautions because he just assumed he was invinsible running Linux. <reya276> ok so Linux/Ubuntu is still secure, so why bother even showing this <dantalizing> AppArmor Â might be defeated <dantalizing> ubuntu uses apparmor <reya276> ok so then anyone can Hijack Ubuntu <reya276> sorry just trying to understand, as right now all of our servers are running Ubuntu <dantalizing> reya276: i dont think its an all or nothing game .. no OS is totally secure <mhall119> reya276: make sure you have all available updates <reya276> right I understand that, but I'm thinking is safer than Windows, which is the reason I moved away from it <dantalizing> i dont think that has changed in the past 10 yrs :) <reya276> ok all the servers are always updated <mhall119> then you have very little chance of problems <reya276> ok so I should not be too worried about this <dantalizing> restrict physical access to all servers <dantalizing> rule #1 <mhall119> Disney is hiring Java devs, anyone want the info? <zillar> i would <zillar> i am interested* #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-10 <reya276> holy crap, anyone there. I need help big time my Ubuntu system has a Malware <reya276> I ran Clamav and it found <reya276> ----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- <reya276> Known viruses: 1143811 <reya276> Engine version: 0.96.5 <reya276> Scanned directories: 47749 <reya276> Scanned files: 238704 <reya276> Infected files: 3 <reya276> Total errors: 570 <reya276> Data scanned: 20177.55 MB <reya276> Data read: 70309.41 MB (ratio 0.29:1) <reya276> Time: 2969.655 sec (49 m 29 s) <reya276> I was able to remove the first two which where JS files in the .cache dir on my home but this one <reya276> /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-amd64_Packages: winnow.malware.hw.malware.562933.UNOFFICIAL FOUND <reya276> what is up with that <reya276> how can I remove that one <reya276> the folks in the Ubuntu main channel said it was a false positive <reya276> /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-amd64_Packages: UTF-8 Unicode English text, with very long lines <reya276> Morning Everyone <munz> morning reya276 <munz> saw u had malware? <reya276> no I spoke to the guys in the main Ubuntu forum and they said it was a false positive and it was as I ran ClamAV again and it did not give me the same results <munz> ohh ok, i was like how? lol <reya276> yeah me too <munz> glad ur clean <reya276> LOL <munz> i deal w/too much windows virus/malware @work....dont need that crap on ubuntu! <reya276> boy after that I went on panic mode and connected to all of the servers at work and ran CHROOTKIT and ClamAV all night <munz> lol <munz> all clean tho? <maxolasersquad> Can anyone recommend a good CLI music player? <munz> http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/53095 <maxolasersquad> munz: Thanks <munz> no prob <maxolasersquad> munz: Any idea what I should set the sound driver to in the config? <munz> maxolasersquad, AudioDriver (string) <munz> Which audiodriver to use for playback. Currently, you can choose <munz> between the following drivers: oss, esd, nas and sdl. If SDL is <munz> available, it will be used by default. OSS is the next <munz> alternative. ESD should only be used if everything else fails. <munz> Note that, if you use SDL as audio driver, you can select from <munz> many output devices by setting the environment variable <munz> SDL_AUDIODRIVER. This is an SDL feature, please refer to the FAQ <munz> on libsdl.org for more information. <munz> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/mp3blaster.1.html <maxolasersquad> I would think that it would be oss, but that throws "Failed to open sound device." <munz> hmm <munz> in a forum saw that specifying path to device helped others <munz> Try mp3blaster -s /dev/dsp or dsp1 or wht evr urs is <munz> wait! <munz> run "padsp mp3blaster" <munz> ur 10.10? <maxolasersquad> 10.04 <maxolasersquad> padsp mp3blaster worked. <munz> sweet! <reya276> is there an app that can read files like if it were an audio book? <tiemonster> festival <DammitJim> where can one get chrome os? <DammitJim> or is that not available? <reya276> I thought that Chrome OS was just the Chrome Browser installed on the CR-48 or something like that <DammitJim> yeah... pure os, though <DammitJim> like it runs the chrome kernel supposedly <mhall119> chrome os is still linux kernel <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: The window to apply for the CR-48 is closed. <maxolasersquad> It is unlikely anyone can get a Chrome OS device until one goes for sale on the market, which is supposed to be later this year. <zillar> whoopie <jck77> maxolasersquad: there is people already selling it on ebay <maxolasersquad> jck77: Yeah. That's probably the only way for now. <jck77> maxolasersquad: but why the form still on? <jck77> https://services.google.com/fb/forms/cr48advanced/ <jck77> I remember that I read somewhere that the last day to submit your for was December 21 <jck77> 2010 <jck77> I applied as individual and as a business on my work place but no luck at all for now <DammitJim> maxolasersquad, when did they close it? <DammitJim> oh, you can buy them on ebay like jck77 said lol <DammitJim> but I was wondering about the OS itself only <DammitJim> dammit, I better get a cr-48! <jck77> am still possitive to get one <zillar> just dream harder <zillar> it will happen <jck77> http://cgi.ebay.com/Chrome-Laptop-w-2-years-Verizon-3G-Included-NEW-SEALED-/120682658341?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item1c193f3a25 <jck77> $399 <zillar> $400 seems to be standard market value <jck77> yeap <jck77> there are people selling it for $500 <jck77> thats insane <zillar> greedy <zillar> all of them <jck77> google should buy them back and then get the address of the seller and then charge them with a fee of $700 <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: If you are feeling really adventurous you could compile the OS itself. I don't know if anyone out there has a precompiled version. <maxolasersquad> They closed it back in December. <DammitJim> closed what? <munz> http://getchrome.eu/download.php <zillar> i'm tempted to try out the live cd, but i get the feeling chromeos will be absolutely useless to me <zillar> even more useless than oracle <zillar> dohohoho <munz> lol <maxolasersquad> Does anyone actually pay for sites like Easy Share? <zillar> probably <zillar> although I doubt there are legitimate subsribers <maxolasersquad> That Chrome OS link isn't for the Google Chrome OS. It's a full Linux desktop built with Google applications installed. <munz> :( <zillar> apparently it's suse <maxolasersquad> http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/vanilla.php <maxolasersquad> That looks to be some prebuilt ChromeOS images for USB. <maxolasersquad> aasd <zillar> i wonder how well they work <DammitJim> I'm going to try them out <reya276> let me know how it goes Dammit <zillar> are they all liveusb images or usb installers? <maxolasersquad> They look to all be usb images. <munz_werk> . <zillar> ? <maxolasersquad> ` #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-11 <reya276> anyone in? <reya276> I forgot the password for my Daughters PC is there anyway that I can reset it <reya276> I need to ship it to her but I have to update it first and I can't do that without her password <mhall119> !seen tiemonster <ubuntu-fl> mhall119: tiemonster was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 8 hours, 24 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <tiemonster> festival <mhall119> reya276: it's Ubuntu? <reya276> yes <mhall119> boot from a LiveCD, chroot to your HDD, then run passwd <reya276> I even got a log from an IM conversation to see if it is that but that password is for her Ubuntu one acct not her desktop login <reya276> chroot? <reya276> how do you do that <mhall119> from the command line <mhall119> say you mount your HDD as /media/Disk <mhall119> in your LiveCD session <mhall119> you just open the terminal, type "sudo chroot /media/Disk" and it'll give you a command prompt that acts like you booted from the HDD <mhall119> running "passwd $daughtersusername" from there will let you reset her password <reya276> ok let me try it <reya276> ok how do I mount the CD? <reya276> thanks lets see if I can get this to work <mhall119> boot from the CD <mhall119> then mount your harddrive <reya276> mount the HD then mount the CD <mhall119> no, just boot from the CD to the live session, then mount the HD <mhall119> there's nothing you need to do with teh CD other than boot from it <reya276> oh when I tried doing sudo chroot /media/Disk from the CLI it said "chroot: cannot change root directory to /media/Disk: no such file or directory <mhall119> right, that was an example path <mhall119> you'll need to mount the HDD (double-click it in nautilus), then use whatever path it has <mhall119> it'll probably be /media/something <reya276> ok I did it, thanks <reya276> lets see if I can log in as her <reya276> cool it worked, thanks <reya276> damn this thing does work miracles <mhall119> :) <mhall119> good night <reya276> wait <reya276> how can I find a way to run this package/app called kde-config-tablet? <floridagurl941> hello <mhall119> morning <dantalizing> morning <itnet7> Morning <dantalizing> itnet7: pm? <itnet7> sure <reya276> morning everyone <dantalizing> morning <dantalizing> so reya276 were you referring to the data-foo tags? <reya276> yes, trying to see if it is an option for us to move to HTML5 <dantalizing> like <tr><td data-foo="Rey" data-bar="276">soemthing</td></tr> <reya276> could we use say a dynamic language such as PHP or Coldfusion8, JSP <reya276> along with this tag <dantalizing> sure ... but they are not inherently associated with any database context. <dantalizing> you can stick whatever you want in those <dantalizing> there is no such thing as a data tag "insert" or "update" <dantalizing> in the database sense of those words <dantalizing> they're literally just tags <dantalizing> but you can definitely use php or whatever to populate them and use then use those tags for your app data <crashsystems> hello world <mhall119> hello crashsystems * crashsystems <3 Firefox Sync :D <dantalizing> crashsystems: you're not using a manual sync process with my app?? :( <crashsystems> dantalizing: No, I'm using Firefox 4 sync between my personal laptop, work computer and Fennec on my phone. <dantalizing> boo <dantalizing> install it anyway and give it 5 stars <crashsystems> your app is for syncing with the default browser's bookmarks isn't it? <dantalizing> crashsystems: yes <tiemonster> !ping <ubuntu-fl> pong <crashsystems> dantalizing: have you tried Fennec recently? <dantalizing> crashsystems: i tried beta9 iirc and it blew up on me ... i'm assuming i had some cruft from the previous releases, but didnt really follow up <dantalizing> sry beta4 <crashsystems> beta5 is the current version. its good enough now to be my main browser on my phone <dantalizing> ah maybe beta5 then <dantalizing> whatever came out a few weeks back <dantalizing> ow 14MB <crashsystems> its performance is actually pretty good considering it's size. Also, flash alone is 10mb, so 14MB for a browser is not bad. <dantalizing> beta4 is in the market and its crashing on me again <dantalizing> :( <crashsystems> hah, don't bother with beta4 <dantalizing> well where's beta5 <dantalizing> ? <crashsystems> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-android-r7/en-US/ <dantalizing> ah <dantalizing> isnt there an irssi script to save links <crashsystems> ? <crashsystems> I don't use irssi <crashsystems> I would if it had decent spellcheck <dantalizing> you should write a nice little perl irssi spell check script <dantalizing> we should do a florida ubuntu hour in CA in may <dantalizing> zbrown: crashsystems jamalta ^^^^ <mhall119> lol #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-12 <zbrown> dantalizing: eh? <zbrown> oh I see <mhall119> dantalizing: as long as it's recorded as a florida team event <munz> my logon pswd and keyring pswd are out of sync....anyone know how to change the pass on your keyring? <crash|party-hat> munz: rm .gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring then log out and in again <crash|party-hat> you changed your password recently, didn't you? <munz> yea <munz> thx brb <crash|party-hat> yw <munz> crash|party-hat, funny thing, actually changed it months ago, just been really really lazy <munz> but it worked <munz> thanx again :) <crash|party-hat> yw <crash|party-hat> thats an annoying little bug that has been around forever <crash|party-hat> seems like it should be easy to fix <munz> yea, should be <s_mahdi> hi <s_mahdi> can any one here help me installing tcl on ubuntu 10.04? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-13 <tiemonster> anyone around to help with creating a daemon? #ubuntu-us-fl 2011-02-14 <munz_werk> morning <crashsystems> Good morning Florida. It must be a sane hour to be awake there, isn't it? <munz_werk> mornin crashsystems <crashsystems> hello <mhall119> crashsystems: have you not slept yet? <crashsystems> no <crashsystems> I gave up and went to starbucks. got here just a minute ago <crashsystems> on the plus side, I'm in san fran, which is fun <DammitJim> morning <crashsystems> hello <dantalizing> morning <DammitJim> any of you on Tmobile? <DammitJim> dantalizing, are you running boxee at home? <crashsystems> I am <dantalizing> tmo ftw <crashsystems> on tmo, that is <crashsystems> I'm not liking tmo in SF <DammitJim> why not, crashsystems ? no 4G? <dantalizing> DammitJim: yes running boxee, but primarily use xbmc <crashsystems> I go into any building that does not have ample windows, and no reception <DammitJim> dantalizing, how do you use both? <DammitJim> oh, right, crashsystems that's a problem even here in Lake mary <dantalizing> DammitJim: quit the app and start the next <crashsystems> I don't get any reception at home in sunnyvale. fortunately I use wifi to make calls there <dantalizing> mmm ... kineto <DammitJim> dantalizing, so you are running just ubuntu as the os? <DammitJim> I mean... not the xbmc build <DammitJim> what ISP do you have out there, then, crashsystems ? <crashsystems> comcast <dantalizing> DammitJim: yes <dantalizing> DammitJim: i used the xmbc live iso from usb to install xbmc, then added boxee <DammitJim> how does that work, dantalizing ? can you just quit xbmc and then where does it go? <dantalizing> just goes to the user desktop <DammitJim> I'm really considering doing the xbmc install like yours but because of the remote control features <dantalizing> i like the android remotes <dantalizing> they're cool <dantalizing> the xbmc one has been flakey for me since the last update ... but still cool <DammitJim> android remotes for what? <DammitJim> boxee and xbmc? <dantalizing> the android xbmc & boxee remote apps <dantalizing> personally i prefer the wiimote plugin for xbmc though <DammitJim> I guess for those you have to have the latest version of xbmc and stuff <DammitJim> I like the RF remote I currently have, but there are times when the app closes and I have no way to restart it LOL <dantalizing> really? <dantalizing> how did you install? <crashsystems> there are IR remotes you can get that work great with boxee/ubuntu <dantalizing> someday i want to get them working with my harmony remote <DammitJim> dantalizing, you can! all you need is an IR to usb adapter <dantalizing> supposedly its just a media center remote to boxee/xbmc, but i've not gone back to try it <DammitJim> dantalizing, yeah, I bought a media center remote, but don't use the remote LOL <dantalizing> are you using the harmony remote with it? <DammitJim> the good thing about the remote is that I "taught" the RF one from the IR one... so that was easy <DammitJim> no, I have the Universal RF-20... it's old, but it does the job <dantalizing> oh thats right you have the rv <dantalizing> *rf <crashsystems> http://crashsystems.net/2010/01/streamzap-boxee-ubuntu/ <dantalizing> someday when i grow up i'll sit down and do that <dantalizing> i've been holding off until i get my new dedicated machine <dantalizing> my asrock <dantalizing> still ...waiting ... <dantalizing> crashsystems: does taht just come with a dongle and a remote? <DammitJim> your ass rocks? what? <DammitJim> dedicated machine for what? <crashsystems> its not a dongle, but it is a usb device <crashsystems> and it has the remote too <crashsystems> it has a usb rf reader on the end of a cord, so you can put it wherever you want, and not have to aim the remote at the back of your computer. <dantalizing> DammitJim: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Dual-Core-Atom-Wireless/dp/B002WP4AZC/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297692060&sr=1-1-catcorr <dantalizing> dedicated machine for xbmc/boxee <DammitJim> oh <DammitJim> that's the guy that is super power efficient? <DammitJim> dammit... I have to remember to bring the cleaning duster home today to blow all the crap out of my server vents <dantalizing> its a dual core atom, so its semi-power efficient, and it has the nvidia ion, so itll do hd video decently <crashsystems> This is the one i set up for a media center pc: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=95 <dantalizing> mainly i want something small and quiet <DammitJim> dantalizing, I was looking for you the other night and sorry for jumping subjects... do you still use mint? <crashsystems> bloody osx has messed up my ctrl-c / ctrl-v reflexes. <DammitJim> lol <dantalizing> DammitJim: yes <dantalizing> crashsystems: is taht machine quiet? <dantalizing> and how well does it do hd? <crashsystems> IIRC it is fairly quiet. I only ever heard it when the room was silent. If a movie is playing, I didn't hear it. <crashsystems> IIRC it did hd well. didn't have much hd to test on it though. <dantalizing> i always run big buck bunny and elephants dream as tests <crashsystems> as a side note, i recently heard that boxee can play DVD ISO files. <DammitJim> my asus machine is loud as heck... but that's the fan problem i need to clean <dantalizing> i wish the boxee people would give all the "apps" to xbmc <dantalizing> the only reason i use boxee is for the "apps" <DammitJim> +1 dantalizing <DammitJim> dantalizing, on mint, do you know if there is a way to "reconcile" each transaction? <DammitJim> I finally gave up and signed up for it <crashsystems> I'll be happy once google tv goes open source <dantalizing> for normal local media browsing i use xbmc <dantalizing> crashsystems: +1 <DammitJim> but we like to check that our receipts match the bank <crashsystems> google tv + an app for managing local media collections + an app for doing dvr would be epic <dantalizing> DammitJim: never did that <dantalizing> DammitJim: we never use checks :) <DammitJim> no, no checks <DammitJim> receipts <crashsystems> of course, also a user agent switcher app so you could actually watch online tv with it <DammitJim> I've had times when a restaurant charged me more for tips for example <dantalizing> crashsystems: yes, myth's dvr functionality +xbmc +gtv = win <dantalizing> DammitJim: nice <DammitJim> dantalizing, but you don't know of a way for doing this? <dantalizing> i've never tried to go back and verify <dantalizing> i mean ... i do <crashsystems> I get using myth in there, but what woud xbmc be doing in that mix? <dantalizing> but not the
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