#ubuntu-ports 2005-10-18
* fabbione yawns
<fabbione> ok logging is on
<jbailey> fabbione: Won't this just get too noisy
<jbailey> ?
<fabbione> jbailey: see the other chan
<fabbione> it's ok to start with
<fabbione> we will split if required
<fabbione> i don't think it will get too noisy anyway
<jbailey> Mmm, alright.
<jbailey> Seems to be not much point to having something other than -devel, then.
<fabbione> exactly
<jbailey> Err.
<jbailey> So why have -ports at all then?
* jbailey wanders off to sleep.  I'll pick this up in the morning. =)
<fabbione> night jeff
<lamont__> fabbione: upload party for hoary is over. you win
<fabbione> lamont__: re
<fabbione> ehehe
<lamont__> er, breezy, even
<lamont__> there are already uploads in at least -updates, though
* lamont__ builds a chroot or 2
<fabbione> lamont: already processesed them :)
<lamont__> feh
* lamont__ adds stats porn
<twysted> i didnt have a party :(
<fabbione> lamont: so what are the official numbers?
<lamont__> will get them after lunch - sorry
<lamont__> ah.
<lamont__> i386 95.39% 6290 of 6594
<lamont__> powerpc 94.36% 6058 of 6420
<lamont__> amd64 93.95% 5996 of 6382
<lamont__> ia64 93.36% 5938 of 6360
<lamont__> sparc 90.28% 5756 of 6376
<lamont__> hppa 90.20% 5715 of 6336
<lamont__> now fleeing to lunch
<fabbione> eheh
<fabbione> enjoy :)
* fabbione sends some extra sugar to lamont 
<jbailey> Are there really 300 packages that are not-for-i386 ?
<fabbione> i have 80 in my list
<fabbione> but i skip some stuff we really don't care about
<fabbione> (and my wife is too busy watching tv)
<lamont__> jbailey: is possible
#ubuntu-ports 2005-10-24
* neuro|laptop makes squeaky noises and wonders if his tiny ultra stack would be useful for the porting cause 
<fabbione> hey neuro
<fabbione> what kind of hw is that?
<neuro|laptop> coupla ultra 5s and 1 or 2 ultra 1s
<neuro|laptop> just wondering if they'd be useful remotely
<fabbione> neuro|laptop: not as buildd.. they are too slow, if they have console we can use them as test install machines
<neuro|laptop> okie
<fabbione> or you can install and report :)
<fabbione> but it's nice you want to help
<fabbione> thanks
* fabbione needs to go offline
<fabbione> later
<shinmen> I have an Ultra80 with 3 procs if that could bring joy to the party.
<fabbione> shinmen: same as neuro|laptop :) can we use it for test installs? or do you want to run test installs?
<fabbione> i really must go now
<fabbione> later
<shinmen> fabbione, Shure, just let me know what do you want to test and I'll do it.
<shinmen> BTW, any TODO list for sparc... I've been kinda idle here at work, so I have a bit of time to help arround.
<fabbione> shinmen: install party :) there is X autoconfig that needs to be worked out on sparc
<shinmen> fabbione, Ok, first of all... I looked at, but didn't follow the steps on the installguide for warty, but for breezy I just grabbed the already there debian sarge and apt-get dist-upgraded it. Is there some other way?
<shinmen> fabbione, Is there a web page on ubuntu sparc info (other than the heatherjohnson@example.com)
<fabbione> you went all the wrong way :)
<fabbione> there is no warty for sparc
<fabbione> only breezy
<fabbione> in the announce i explained how to install it
<fabbione> there is netinstall either via tftpboot or miniso
<fabbione> upgrades from sarge are tricky if you don't know how to use apt pinning
<fabbione> also.. the installer works
<fabbione> and only via the installer you get to test X autoconfig for real
<shinmen> I'll take a hard drive home tonight to test it.
<fabbione> :)
* shinmen wonders if he has scsi drives to spare for the U80
* shinmen sees the door open on the E450 an steals from it
#ubuntu-ports 2005-10-25
<shinmen> Just to check if this is a known bug.. but I'd just installed my U80, and when the machine comes up, /etc/init.d/networking isn't doing anything.
<jbailey> I think hotplug brings up the interfaces.
<shinmen> network/interfaces looks good. I'm not shure if it's because I have an e1000, but the module is up, and if I do "ip a a..." manually, it works.
<jbailey> Does ifup eth0 do it as well?
<shinmen> it does.
<jbailey> Is there an "auto eth0" at the top of the interfaces file?
<shinmen> Hmm. Noup.
<shinmen> That does the trick. For some reason the installer missed it.
<jbailey> I thin hotplug is supposed to take care of that now.
<shinmen> Will try again with the installer but I'll add it manually.
<jbailey> It might not be working on sparc yet.
<schweeb_> I'll be trying sparc in the next few days on my blade 1500
<schweeb_> I'll look for that prob.
<shinmen> Ok, just finished installing the box, and X does fails. I'll look into it. The mouse got detected as an IMPs/2, so if that is not the only thing that got wrong, it's one of them.
<quassar> Nice. Ubuntu running on the U80.
<fabbione> shinmen: yes as i said X autodetection needs love on sparc
<fabbione> shinmen: keep the generated config if you can
<fabbione> and send me both that one the correct one
<fabbione> i will need more info later
<shinmen> Running from the U80.
* shinmen is quite happy
<shinmen> And for sources, should I use normal breezy sources?
<jbailey> Yes.
#ubuntu-ports 2005-10-30
<fabbione> YOYOOY
<fabbione> dapper is open on sparc too
<fabbione> building as we speak
<shinmen> Cool.
<shinmen> Anyone here running ubuntu on sparc on a gnome desktop?
<shinmen> I have here, nautilus, gnome-vfs-daemon, and gnome-panel each one just nailing the processors on this box.
<shinmen> They do it inmediatly after loggin in, and killing them doesn't help, as soon as they respawn the start heatherjohnson@example.com.
<fabbione> shinmen: no idea :/
<fabbione> my machine is headless
<fabbione> i think David Miller had exactly the same behaviour
<fabbione> but if nobody debugs it, it will never get fixed
<shinmen> fabbione, BTW, where do I send the X configs for the U80?
<fabbione> shinmen: did you save both of them?
<fabbione> the pregenerated and fixed?
<fabbione> send them to heatherjohnson@example.com
<shinmen> fabbione, yeap.
<fabbione> and also add the output from discover
<shinmen> fabbione, How do  I get that?
<fabbione> (just one sec, i am looking at the proper command)
<shinmen> Did an strace -p on nautilus, and this is what it's doing:
<shinmen> ioctl(3, 0x4004667f, 0xefa115d4)        = 0
<shinmen> poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLNVAL}] , 5, -1) = 1
<shinmen> Over and over.
<fabbione> shinmen: ok..
* fabbione kicks discover1
<fabbione> ok
<fabbione> apt-get install discover1
<shinmen> ///me runs away for a bowl of fruit loops
<fabbione> discover -d --enable-all
<shinmen> fabbione, Sent. The sound card doesn't apear in the discover output, but it's a cs4231.
<shinmen> fabbione, Where did you read about DaveM having that gnome bug? debian-sparc?
<fabbione> shinmen: no he told me on IRC
<fabbione> does the audio work? or did you have to do anything fancy?
<shinmen> fabbione, Noup, modprobe, ogg123.. done. Mixer and all.
<fabbione> ?
<fabbione> so just modprobe ?
<shinmen> yeap
<fabbione> ok
<fabbione> probably the module is not hotplug compliant
<fabbione> we will get it fixed
<fabbione> i need to go out of IRC and must finish to pack my bag
<fabbione> later
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-19
<fabbione> tmarble: ping?
<tmarble> fabbione: pong pong... sorry for the delay :-)
<tmarble> network latency, time zones et al
<fabbione> tmarble: sorry but it was very late yesterday and i went to sleep
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-20
<tmarble> fabbione: ping
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-22
<fabbione> hey tmarble 
<tmarble> hi fabbione
<tmarble> fabbione: sorry -- didn't see you here -- multitasking
<tmarble> i head out to San Diego in about 1 hour
<fabbione> no problem
<fabbione> i saw your ping yesterday but i was already weekend'ing :)
<fabbione> ok
<tmarble> you can do that!
<fabbione> have fun there
<fabbione> not always.. my wife doesn't allow me to :)
<tmarble> it's all work :-(   SPECjvm2006
<fabbione> well i love to travel..
<fabbione> is there anything i can do for you before you take off?
<tmarble> Please note: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-mtv
<tmarble> I will be attending all week and coordinating activities for Sun
<fabbione> ok
<fabbione> than you should subscribe to all specs you are supposed to be in
<tmarble> any tips on things to think about and/or how to prepare for UDS would be most helpful
<fabbione> once you are registered go to the spec tracker
<tmarble> with the exception of the their launchpad page -- is there any other mechanism to determine "who's who" among developer/attendees?
<fabbione> and make sure to be subscribed to the one you are interested in
<tmarble> got it
<fabbione> nope
<fabbione> but there will be a general introduction the first day
<tmarble> first day = Sunday
<tmarble> ?
<fabbione> i assume we will do like other times.. everybody stands up and say a couple of word on "who am I"
<fabbione> yes sunday is my very best guess
<tmarble> I'll arrive around noon-ish on Monday
<tmarble> do you suppose that developers are going to want to go on caffeine induced hackathons for 24-hour straight?
<tmarble> or, would there be some interest, do you think, in *a little* sight-seeing (e.g. food or nightlife in San Francisco)?
<fabbione> no, specs writing is boring enough that we spend the evening drinking to forget :)
<fabbione> sight seeing and life > *
<fabbione> are you going to be the only guy from SUN showing up?
<fabbione> Simon was talking about a few more coming
<tmarble> hmmm  I'm very tempted to organize an outing... say tuesday-ish?... for some (techno dance) clubbing... sound good?
<fabbione> and we were trying to arrange a dinner just to get to know eachother before starting to work
<tmarble> there will be several -- don't have a full count yet
<tmarble> cool -- any ideas on which day the dinner would take place
<fabbione> well they need to register in LP and subscribe to specs, otherwise it will be caothic
<tmarble> right
<fabbione> dinner should be wed AFAIK
<fabbione> it really depends.. Simon didn't answer one single email i wrote to him to have names and dates
<tmarble> now, let's say, Sun person wants to package application foobar for Ubuntu (Debian)... if there isn't a spec yet, should they create one?
<tmarble> I apologize on Simon's behalf for that... I'll be much more responsive
<fabbione> yes, they need to create a spec in wiki.u.c (use the spec template) register it in LP and get it scheduled for MV
<tmarble> I just got approved late friday
<tmarble> k
<fabbione> but there is a time limit for specs submission
<fabbione> let me check
<tmarble> but, I don't see anything on the schedule yet -- > will the schedule be on the wiki -> ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMountainView
<fabbione> the schedule will be generated on a daily base
<tmarble> OK....
<fabbione> because specs don't get all approved/worked at the same speed
<fabbione> but
<fabbione> if SUN guy is known to show up tue, his specs will not be scheduled for monday
<fabbione> or something like that
<tmarble> ok
<fabbione> i mean.. apply that rule in different ways
<fabbione> like he needs to leave early and so on
<fabbione> point is that fixed schedule simply doesn't work
<tmarble> sure, that makes sense
<fabbione> if a spec needs more discussion or one just go from draft to approved in one hour.. 
<fabbione> etc.
<tmarble> I'm going to target nightlife for tuesday (or thursday)
<fabbione> you get the idea
<fabbione> yeah let's meet up on monday and see how things are settled
<tmarble> ok... 
<fabbione> i have no idea of a lot of details yet
<fabbione> like what's up for dinner and so on
<tmarble> hey, I thought you were supposed to know *everything* :)
<fabbione> (if we need to find our own resturant or we are all at the hotel.. etc.)
<tmarble> i'm at the same hotel BTW
<tmarble> .. and I'm going to stay the weekend as I have biz the following week in Santa Clara
<fabbione> yeah yeah.. my wife accuses me of the same, but then when i ask her to fix an IRQ problems, she believes i got some weird new sexual desease
<fabbione> cool
<tmarble> hehe
<fabbione> we will stay the week after too
<fabbione> but we have a fixed event on saturday
<fabbione> and we need to change hotel
<tmarble> you can do that
<fabbione> yeps.. let see how things evolve
<fabbione> i am all up for partying and driking
<fabbione> drinking
<fabbione> it helps to face the day after :P
<tmarble> don't know how to localize "woot" in italian ;-)
<fabbione> ehehe 
<tmarble> I have to step away from the computer for a bit (last minute packing and all...)
<fabbione> i understand that
<fabbione> take care
<fabbione> i am off to watch a movie and then to bed
<tmarble> I'll be around (on IRC) once I'm in San Diego
<fabbione> ok
<tmarble> buon cine!
<fabbione> thanks
<tmarble> ttyl!
<fabbione> have a pleasent flight
<fabbione> cya
<tmarble> thanks
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-23
<tmarble> fabbione: ping
<fabbione> tmarble: pong
<tmarble> I see that I can add a spec at : https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+addspec
<tmarble> but how do I get the sprint added: Sprint: uds-mtv
<tmarble> such that it shows up in https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-mtv/+specs
<fabbione> once you add the spec you can propose it
<fabbione> once proposed it gets approved/rejected
<tmarble> ah... how does one propose it/
<tmarble> ?
<tmarble> + Propose for meeting agenda (in the spec in launchpad)?
<fabbione> yes
<fabbione> (sorry if i am lagged.. struggling with some kernel issues)(
<tmarble> no problem.. thanks for your help.. I must go a meeting now....
<tmarble> talk to you again soon.
<fabbione> ok
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-25
<Dvalin> :)
<fabbione> yo
<Dvalin> yo ho mo!
<Dvalin> :)
<Dvalin> fabbione: btw. I started tracking your packages yesterday, I already gained some benefits from it :)
<fabbione> ehhe ok
<Dvalin> although I'm kind of sceptic to the upstream friendliness of some of the patches..
<Dvalin> but maybe more for upstream to make friendship with
<Dvalin> while you benefit more from efficiency :o)
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-27
<Dvalin> fabbione: what is the magic sysrq key on sparc?
<fabbione> stop+a
<fabbione> ?
<Dvalin> hrm
<Dvalin> I can't get it working
<Dvalin> weird
<Dvalin> hmhm
<Dvalin> can't be related to keyboard?
<Dvalin> I remember it working fine with old us sun model 6 keyboard
<Dvalin> now I have a norwegian model 7
<Dvalin> but maybe I've had it disabled by a mistake
#ubuntu-ports 2006-10-30
<tmarble> fabbione: do you know of any Niagara hardware representation at UDS?
<tmarble> well, that's what I'm working on (got to run now... i'll be on later....)
<fabbione> tmarble: no we are not going to have many presentations like in a conference
<tmarble> i know that!
<fabbione> <tmarble> fabbione: do you know of any Niagara hardware representation at UDS?
<tmarble> my question was "are YOU aware of hw presence..."
<tmarble> I have tentatively scheduled a T2000 rev2 to accompany me :-)
<tmarble> ... for you to play with (well, eveyrone, of course)
<fabbione> there will be hw yes but not a T2000
<fabbione> there won't be time to play with hw anyway
<tmarble> One thing I'd like to do is update my notes into a form of documentation that can be used more generally
<fabbione> make sense..
<tmarble> so, which specs have you signed up for (and/or put on the agenda)
<tmarble> trust me, I'm going to work (I was just using the word "play" in jest)
<fabbione> all the sparc stuff, udev/devmapper/raid/lvm
<fabbione> and others..
<fabbione> i can't remember
<fabbione> the schedule will remind me :)
<tmarble> cool
<fabbione> yeah i know what you mean
<fabbione> but i can tell you from experience that there isn't much time for hacking around
<fabbione> as in working on real hw
<fabbione> just talk and spec writing
<tmarble> are you saying it would be a BAD idea to bring hw/
<tmarble> ?
<fabbione> i am saying that is pointless because usually the load level of spec stuff is so high, that if you get one hour free you enjoy it as such :)
<fabbione> talk with other people... socialize
<fabbione> get coffee.. etc.
<fabbione> brb
<tmarble> hrm... ok... well I may try to get it just in case anyway
<fabbione> up to you really, but imho it's not worth the troubles of carrying it around
<tmarble> ok
#ubuntu-ports 2007-10-03
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<fabbione> lamont: installer is going through installing base now from ports.u.c :)
<fabbione> so i guess we just need bind9 for hppa
<lamont> fabbione: did it install all the way?
<fabbione> well almost
<fabbione> bind9 is required after base-isntall
<fabbione> up to tasksel basically it was perfect
<lamont> that build1 upload is looking more tempting
<fabbione> go ahead and do it :)
<lamont> I will wait the 5 hours.
<lamont> I will be patient.
<lamont> I am a good boy.
<fabbione> i know you want it :)
<lamont> man these affirmations are challenging
<fabbione> ROFL
<lamont> fabbione: what does this want, I ask the X god: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9692173/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-hppa.xserver-xorg-input-microtouch_1%3A1.1.0-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
<lamont> it's a representative instance of a class of failures
<fabbione> lamont: checking
<fabbione> ../../src/microtouch.c:64:1: warning: "NEED_XF86_TYPES" redefined
<fabbione> feh...
<fabbione> this can go back to a broken Xserver build
<lamont> or non-existant Xserver build
<fabbione> lamont: how old is xorg-server?
<fabbione> xorg-server-(502)257-5948.dfsg$ grep NEED_XF86_TYPES * -r
<fabbione> configure:#define NEED_XF86_TYPES 1
<fabbione> configure.ac:   AC_DEFINE(NEED_XF86_TYPES, 1, [Need XFree86 typedefs] )
<fabbione> hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/libc_wrapper.c:#define NEED_XF86_TYPES 1
<fabbione> include/xorg-server.h:#define NEED_XF86_TYPES 1
<fabbione> include/do-not-use-config.h.in:#undef NEED_XF86_TYPES
<fabbione> include/xorg-config.h.in:#undef NEED_XF86_TYPES
<fabbione> include/xorg-server.h.in:#undef NEED_XF86_TYPES
<fabbione> include/do-not-use-config.h:#define NEED_XF86_TYPES 1
<fabbione> include/xorg-config.h:#define NEED_XF86_TYPES 1
<fabbione> this is the very latest server
<fabbione> and it looks like it's pretty much forced
<fabbione>  gutsy hppa   Successfully built  (DONE)
<fabbione> hmm
<lamont> most recent xorg built on hppa
<fabbione> oh hmm
<fabbione> nevermind
<fabbione> that's broken on i386 too
<fabbione> or something underneath broke it after it was built
<lamont> ah - you beat me to checking on i386
<fabbione> but i am not going to dig why.. it's universe :)
<lamont> right
<lamont> I just dumped it on -motu. :)
<lamont> hrm.. is this channel logged along with the rest of #u-*?
<fabbione> yes
<fabbione> but the log won't appear for another 10/15 minutes on the web
<lamont> oh well.
<lamont> :-D
* lamont grumbles at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9710403/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-hppa.libgstreamer-perl_0.09-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
<fabbione> go perl!
<fabbione> lamont: did you sync bind9?
<lamont> no.  it'll be available for archive types to sync in about 2 hours...
<fabbione> ok
#ubuntu-ports 2007-10-04
<fabbione> lamont: score
<fabbione> Linux baldios 2.6.22-12-hppa32 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 17:50:57 UTC 2007 parisc
<fabbione> fully installed from scratch
<lamont> fabbione: rock!
<lamont> fabbione: if you install ubuntu-desktop from buildd.m.c, does gnome work?
* lamont >opffice
<fabbione> lamont: dunno... i only had time to do a basic install
<lamont> I'll dig around and find a graphics card and see what I see then
#ubuntu-ports 2007-10-14
<Arrogance> evening everyone
<Arrogance> shhh
<jbailey> ?
<Arrogance> they're hunting wabbits
#ubuntu-ports 2007-10-16
* lamont waves
<fabbione> yo
<lamont> morning fabbione 
* Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-ports.log
* Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-ports.log
#ubuntu-ports 2008-10-07
<fransman> Any sparc maintainer around?
<fransman> I did build the 2.6.27 rc9 kernel for sparc64 and it runs nice
#ubuntu-ports 2008-10-21
<fransman> fabbione are you around
<fransman> ok done it by email
#ubuntu-ports 2009-10-11
<Duskin> hello
#ubuntu-ports 2009-10-14
<TheMuso> NCommander: You may be interested in bug 450214 relating to the alternate powerpc installer.
#ubuntu-ports 2009-10-16
<lokad> hello together
<lokad> i have issues with grub2 from ubuntu-ports for karmic
<lokad> Bug #444562 
<lokad> ie i386 packages work, lpia do not
<lokad> So, then hello again. Whom can I bother with problems related to the lpia port?
<lokad> I've updated my bug-report at 
<lokad> #444562 on launchpa but now I'm stuck as what to do next

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