#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-01
<h00k> Google Calendar sure looks nice
 * Cheesehead pokes his head out from under a rock
 * Cheesehead goes back under the rock
<h00k> Cheesehead: hello
<Cheesehead> hook: Greetings
 * Cheesehead sticks his head back out from under the rock
<Cheesehead> I need to find a better front door. This rock is heavy.
<Cheesehead> Hinges would be nice, too.
<Cheesehead> Maybe something that locks.
<h00k> I am only thinking of Patrick from Spongebob
<Cheesehead> Patrick is one smart guy. Nice social life, no worries, regenerates if you cut off one of his rays. Seemed stoned sometimes, but who doesn't?
 * Cheesehead goes back under his rock
 * Cheesehead scratches
 * Cheesehead orders his system to make a sandwich
 * Cheesehead orders his system to sudo make a sandwich
 * Cheesehead installs libsandwich2
<mikeputnam> make should suffice if you are compiling into user land
<Cheesehead> Making lunch for the whole family, so multi-user
<mikeputnam> heh
<Cheesehead> Anyone know why libsandwich2 requires PostgreSQL?
<Cheesehead> I'm watching calories; I prefer SQLite
<mikeputnam> nosql!
<Cheesehead> Ah, there we so. Sandwiches
<Cheesehead> Wait...
<Cheesehead> Ugh. Somebody patched dijon mustard in
<mikeputnam> UPDATE Condiments SET Preferred = 'MAYO' WHERE Type = 'YUMMY'
<Cheesehead> You know, 8.10 had a Pumpernickel option. Disappeared in 9.10. I still miss it.
<Cheesehead> $ sudo sandwich --number=5 --bread=wheat --lettuce=romaine --meat=turkey --cheese=provolone --cheese=swiss --mayo=light --pimento=no --shape=smileyface
<Cheesehead> Ah, that's what I wanted
<Cheesehead> I'm adding that to the custom sandwich configs at /etc/sandwich.d/
 * Cheesehead stops typing so he can chew
 * Cheesehead sips slowly from a lemonade
 * Cheesehead takes another sip
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-02
 * Cheesehead takes a third sip of lemonade
 * Cheesehead takes another sip of lemonade
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-04
<Cheesehead> Anyone going to the MKE fireworks tonight?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-05
<douglasawh-work> OT: does anyone know anything about Excel macros?  I've got a user with some problems and I don't even know where to start
 * Cheesehead mixes a new pitcher of lemonade
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-06
<h00k> oi
<h00k> hello
 * Cheesehead just checked the IRC logs and saw h00k's earlier 'hello'
<h00k> Cheesehead: yes yes
<h00k> Cheesehead: hello
<Cheesehead> See, somebody else occasionally checks here.
<h00k> It's amazing, really!
<h00k> How was your fourth?
<Cheesehead> h00k: Most fabulous. Grilling, sunburn, all the good stuff
<Cheesehead> And yours?
<h00k> Same here, I'm hurting today
<h00k> I missed the fireworks, had to drive back home.
<Cheesehead> Ah, they were great
<Cheesehead> Didn't see the end, kids wore out
<h00k> Where did you see them?
<Cheesehead> I watch the big MKE ones from South Shore Park.
<h00k> Ah, cool
<h00k> I was up near Bayfield
<h00k> *in Bayfield
<Cheesehead> Same spot is good for the annual air show, too
<h00k> Down there?
<Cheesehead> Y
<Cheesehead> 15 Years, and I've missed the EAA show EVERY year
<Cheesehead> I'm gonna go before I die. I'm sure I will
<h00k> I went there once
<h00k> the Discovery Channel interviewed me
<h00k> I was there with the Boy Scouts
<Cheesehead> You were a scout? Or a chaperone?
<h00k> Scout
<Cheesehead> The show in MKE is capped by the Blue Angels' performance
<Cheesehead> Funny, I saw the Air Force do just as cool stuff for no scottashley@example.org.
<h00k> That is awesome
<Cheesehead> Well, it was understandable. It was Iraq, and they were getting shot at.
<Cheesehead> Still really cool to watch, though.
 * h00k facepalms
<h00k> not what I expected
<h00k> but yeah, point
<Cheesehead> That was the time I upgraded to 6.10
<Cheesehead> No available network, so I had to download it packagae by package
<Cheesehead> and zip-drive it to my laptop
<Cheesehead> and dist-upgrade manually
<h00k> those were the says
<Cheesehead> Learned a lot that week!
<h00k> days.
<Cheesehead> I don't miss them
<Cheesehead> Though I don't listen when people complain that 85 is hot.
<Cheesehead> Looking back, I got *really* luck with that upgrade
<Cheesehead> It could have gone wrong so many ways
 * Cheesehead leaves to attend to kids
<h00k> Oi
<Cheesehead> Oi
<h00k> I have these vegetable chips at my desk, delicious
<h00k> they're dehydrated stuff
<Cheesehead> What kind of vegetable?
<Cheesehead> No, wait
<Cheesehead> What kind of desk?
<h00k> sweet potatp, squash, carrot, green bean, taro (no clue), purple sweet potato, non-hydrogenated canola oil, dextrin, salt
<h00k> erm, my work desk
<Cheesehead> But...you're not working
<h00k> sure I am
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-07
 * h00k wayns
<h00k> yawns, rather
<h00k> hello
<Cheesehead> h00k: good morning
<h00k> Cheesehead: morning
<jrolland-ubuntu> Could you repeat that? Unity went FUBAR on my and I needed to do a hard reboot :(
<h00k> jrolland-ubuntu: what's up?
<Cheesehead> hook: I suppose it's one of those thing you will never know
<h00k> Cheesehead: apparently nor
<h00k> *not
<Cheesehead> *things
<Cheesehead> *h00k
<Cheesehead> etc
 * Cheesehead stretches his fumbly fingers
<Cheesehead> Right now I'm taking a break and working http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28213/
<Cheesehead> I'm moderating the idea...and there are some problems with the idea.
<Cheesehead> For example, it's utterly unrealistic.
<Cheesehead> So I sent him an e-mail, and in 24 hours I'll be able to close it.
<Cheesehead> Did my Sales Tax reporting for June, so I'm cool with the state of WI.
<Cheesehead> The Brainstorm idea is unusual - the submitter is experienced and participates in several teams
<Cheesehead> Experienced community members are rarely so dogmatic.
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-08
<Cheesehead> Woe is me. I must take my car for emissions testing in a few minutes
<h00k> I just watched the space shuttle launch
<h00k> mind = blown
<h00k> Everytime
<Cheesehead> I watched the first five or six, then just happened to watch #25 (oops)
<Cheesehead> Talk about good (bad?) timing.
<mikeputnam> the scale of the propulsion is hard to fathom
<mikeputnam> and not kill anybody
<h00k> like...4 miles per second
<Cheesehead> 4 mps? Should be more than that...
<Cheesehead> I want a Space Elevator...but I don't want to pay for it
<Cheesehead> Aw, who am I kidding? I'd help pay for it.
<mikeputnam> Perhaps the fiscal onus of space exploration could be tamed by working together globally? #allonthesameteam
<Cheesehead> It already is
<mikeputnam> so globally Nasa can't apy the bills?
<mikeputnam> *pay
<Cheesehead> ISS is supported mostly by Russian support vehicles and tankers
<mikeputnam> US & Russia <> globally
<mikeputnam> or if you prefer !=
<Cheesehead> I don't see Zimbabwe or Peru or Switzerland making meaningful contributions. What line must we cross to call it global?
<Cheesehead> China and India have -at best- rudimentary capabilities
<mikeputnam> i guess that's my question. why not contributions from everybody?
<Cheesehead> Europe decided to be a niche player long ago
<mikeputnam> money or tech
<Cheesehead> Kind of the same boat Ubuntu is in - everybody benefits, but only a few contribute
 * Cheesehead is smug about working Ubuntu into the conversation
<mikeputnam> well the non-existant global space exploration program needs a paypal button
<mikeputnam> or at least a "Get Involved" link
<mikeputnam> street team!
<mikeputnam> sell ad space on the side of the shuttles
<mikeputnam> deface the surface of the moon with McDonalds Golden Arches in exchange for 2 years funding
<Cheesehead> Well, the money gets spent on Earth, so I don't see Zimbabwe's interest in sending money to technicians in Florida or Kazakhstan
<Cheesehead> And the worlds just doesn't need 100 satellite factories plus 100 rocket fuel factories scattered everywhere
<mikeputnam> "Zimbabwe" is a pretty general grouping of a lot of people.
<Cheesehead> Okay, Peru, too.
<Cheesehead> (Unless Peru provides an equatorial railgun launcher in the Andes...THAT would be cool)
<mikeputnam> heh
<Cheesehead> (and lower the cost to orbit)
<Cheesehead> Hooray! My first e-mail to the Ubuntu Technical Board was accepted. Now to see what they say...
 * Cheesehead wonders why he typed all that twice
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-11
<h00k> Oi
<twopoint718> oi?
<h00k> Hi!
<h00k> I'm getting off Facebook.
<twopoint718> Oh? I did that a while ago. Get ready for *angry* friends, really.
<h00k> I don't care.
<h00k> :)
<h00k> I already did it once, came back (still not sure why)
<h00k> and I'm about to do it again
<twopoint718> Yeah I dumped FB only to be playing with Google+ right now :/
<h00k> :D
<twopoint718> If I didn't know better, I'd think that these social network thingies were really going to catch on
<mikeputnam> twopoint718: how am i to encircle you in my "wisconsin linux" G+ circle if i cannot find you!?
<twopoint718> hmmm, I added you just now.
<h00k> wooo
<h00k> I have an Ubuntu circle going on, but anything Ubuntu-US-WI related will probably just go Public or All Circles for me
<mikeputnam> yeah. i don't have a lot of linux-centric stuff that i wouldn't also share publicly. none in fact.
<mikeputnam> i suppose the notification thingy could be used
<mikeputnam> the circles are almost more of a memory aid for me
<mikeputnam> in twitter i'd quite forgotten why i originally added/follow people
<twopoint718> I dunno, I feel like I have a two-face level of split between my nerd-side and my other side. I remember posting something linux-related once on FB and I got a zillion WTFs from civilians.
<mikeputnam> twopoint718: for example.  i'd been following you for a while on twitter. but until you just got added to my linux circle i'd forgotten how i "know" you
<mikeputnam> now i won't forget
<twopoint718> Yeah, I think it is a good idea to group people on social networks, for the reasons you say.
<h00k> 'civillians'
<h00k> ahahahaha
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-12
<h00k> Hello.
<spikeb> hi
<h00k> 'Morning
<h00k> I got an email that I'm evaluating on sending to the mailing list
<h00k> it's regarding a C/C++ Unit Testing software
<h00k> and I don't know deep C++ enough anymore to know if that's...something people would need
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-13
<h00k> oi
<douglasawh-work> is unity built on GNOME2 or GNOME3?  Wikipedia doesn't say
<h00k> I'm pretty sure 11.04 has it on gnome2, and 11.10 will have it on gnome3
<h00k> slash gtk3
<douglasawh-work> so is the gnome3 fallback classic GNOME?
<douglasawh-work> because I haven't tried GNOME3 on any hardware that doesn't support GNOME3 other than on ubuntu
<h00k> Good question.
<douglasawh-work> so I don't know if that's Unity or what
<h00k> I don't know what it will be on 11.10
<douglasawh-work> power management in GNOME3 blows beyond believe
<douglasawh-work> belief*
<h00k> Fallback on Unity3d is Unity3d
<h00k> er
<h00k> 2d
<douglasawh-work> does that look similar to Unity?
<h00k> Quite, yeah
<h00k> it just uses...qt stuffs, I think.
<douglasawh-work> maybe you just get the GNOME2 look if you do an upgrade rather than doing a fresh install?
<h00k> It has the UNity panel and everything
<douglasawh-work> my machine looks and acts just like GNOME2 but I haven't install GNOME3 on it
<h00k> Are you on 11.04?
<douglasawh-work> yep
<douglasawh-work> this is the one machine where I haven't installed GNOME3...because I didn't need it
<douglasawh-work> I hate the unity bar so much
<douglasawh-work> I don't mind the side bar stuff.  GNOME3 has that too, of course
<h00k> I don't have Unity here on my work machine running 10.04.2, and I miss it
<h00k> 11.04 is Unity/Gnome 2
<Cheesehead> douglasawh-work: Did you get your Unity/Gnome questions answered?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-14
<h00k> Cheesehead: halfway, I think
<Cheesehead> Unity 11.04 is definitely built on Gnome 2.
<Cheesehead> G3 didn't arrive until too late in the cycle
<Cheesehead> Unity 11.10 alphas are built on Gnome 3.
<Cheesehead> 11.04 power mgt problems (laptops burning 20-30%) more battery capacity than 10.10 was a kernel bug, since fixed.
<Cheesehead> The fix should propagate through updates soon, if it hasn't already.
 * Cheesehead tracks a bunch of the Release Team info because a lot of questions like that pop up in Brainstorm.
<h00k> I was halfway superbusy today
<Cheesehead> me, too
<Cheesehead> Got a conference call in a few minutes, so I suppose I still am
<h00k> bah, yeah, 11.04 was definitely gtk2, but power usage was terrible
<h00k> That's why I downgraded to 10.04 on my laptop at work
<Cheesehead> Once the kernel bug was fixed, power usage in testing dropped to =Windows, =10.10
<Cheesehead> Hooray! Very short conf call.
<douglasawh-work> cheesehead I'm talking about the management tools, not the management itself.  There are like two options in GNOME3.  It's ridiculous
<h00k> douglasawh-work: did you find the system settings in the top right menu? (I think that is where I saw it)
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-15
<douglasawh-work> h00k: the power management options going through there are terribly incomplete when compared to GNOME2
<twopoint718> Just wanted to mention that MadLUG is having a meeting tomorrow at Sundance Cinema, 1pm, Madison, WI: http://www.meetup.com/madlug/events/18786121/
<douglasawh-work> I can't remember, did I ask about FreeNAS in here?
<h00k> douglasawh-work: not that I know of
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-16
<douglasawh-work> h00k: well, we pretty much gave up on that project
<douglasawh-work> but thanks for reminding me about that project because I just checked to see if this computer was done and it is!
<douglasawh-work> time to go home
 * twopoin718 is at the MadLUG meeting in Madison, WI
<h00k> wedding planning, wedding planning.
<h00k> two weeks.
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-19
<h00k> Screwed around with my Arduino today, I have to go buy some sensors tomorrow
<h00k> I'm going to make a midi drumkit
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-20
<Cheesehead> Ubuntu Global Jam ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam ) will be in 6 weeks - Fri/Sat/Sun Sept 2-4
<Cheesehead> Any interest in an Ubuntu Hour in MKE during that time?
<Cheesehead> Unrelated question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour shows a monthly Ubuntu Hour in Madison. Does it really occur?
<h00k> Cheesehead: indeed it does in Madison, also, we've tried to do some stuff for Global Jam but nobody showed up, I'm willing to try it again!
<h00k> Cheesehead: and probably, regarding MKE hour!
<Cheesehead> I suppose the Madison Ubuntu Hour should show up on the LoCo monthly reports.
<h00k> It could, yeah
<Cheesehead> I will add it.
<Cheesehead> I'll do the barest planning for a MKE hour and post it to the mailing list
<Cheesehead> For the reports going forward, it would be quite helpful to know how many people show up to the MSN Ubuntu Hour
<Cheesehead> any notable events that took place, etc
<h00k> Cheesehead: I can get that from MADLUG that actually hosts that hour and forward that on
<Cheesehead> Ah, if it's their event, then I see no need for us to take credit for it...
<Cheesehead> So I won't add it to our reports.
<h00k> Cheesehead: they are hosting it, but they are doing 'Ubuntu Hour'
<h00k> we're working together on it
<h00k> douglasawh-work: ^ is this correct?
<h00k> also, nickmoeck_, you're in Mil, yes?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-21
<Cheesehead> h00k: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1085/detail/
<Cheesehead> Seem correct?
<h00k> Cheesehead: Appears so, I can begin forwarding notices again to the LoCo, I do occasionally if I'm not superbusy when I get the email regarding it
<h00k> I should.
<h00k> Cheesehead: awesome!
<Cheesehead> That one was practice - to see if I could figure out the Ubuntu event system
<Cheesehead> Now there's an event we (somebody else) can add to the wiki, and (me) add to the reports.
<Cheesehead> It doesn't replace other methods, but it does get the event into the Ubuntu ical, and
<Cheesehead> ..someday...if we want to be a real approved LoCo again, we need this kind of documentation
 * Cheesehead goes off to mop the kitchen floor
<h00k> I concur
<h00k> so, cool. we have a few people that want to.
 * Cheesehead returns from the kitchen
<Cheesehead> Whew. Dirty floor. Clean now.
<Cheesehead> hook: >we have a few people that want to.
<Cheesehead> Seems so.
<Cheesehead> Ugh. I keep mispelling y0ur name. Sorry.
<h00k> It's alright
<h00k> h<tab>
<Cheesehead> h00k: Hey! I learned something new. Thanks...
<h00k> Cheesehead: ;) works on most IRC clients
<Cheesehead> Event listing - UH Madison 20 Aug http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1085/detail/ , ical http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1085/detail/ical/
<Cheesehead> Event listing - UH Madison 17 Sep http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1086/detail/, ical http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1086/detail/ical/
<Cheesehead> Event listing - UH Madison 15 Oct http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1087/detail/, icoal http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1087/detail/ical/
<h00k> http://wisconsinlinux.org/
<Cheesehead> icoal? Perhaps I meant ical
<Cheesehead> h00k: Saw it - these are the Ubuntu wiki event listings. In case anyone cares.
<Cheesehead> This way, they're in my IRC log, I'll need them in a month or two
<h00k> Makes sense
<Cheesehead> I suppose MadLug should be putting the events into WiLug's wiki
<Cheesehead> Not to be bureaucratic about it (ha ha)
<h00k> Wer're also logged here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/21/%23ubuntu-us-wi.html
<h00k> etc, etc
<Cheesehead> h00k: Yup, I have a little script that pulls that log whenever my laptop goes online.
<Cheesehead> Handy to see what the conversation is about while I've been working
<h00k> :Dice
<h00k> *nice
<h00k> my upload is making everything lag.
<h00k> I use irssi on a VPS so it's always (usually) connected
<Cheesehead> h00k: http://wisconsinlinux.org/index.php/Wisconsin_Linux_Users#Meetings_.2F_Event_Calendar shows a bimonthly #ubuntu-wisconsin meeting
<Cheesehead> Old info they never erased?
<h00k> yes.
<h00k> :/
<h00k> wait, that might be my calendar?
<h00k> Nope
<h00k> mikeputnam: that's you!
<h00k> I have https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ql53dv4hme3frk8ro72fbc2g84%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
<h00k> and/or https://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/ql53dv4hme3frk8ro72fbc2g84%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
<h00k> and/or https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ql53dv4hme3frk8ro72fbc2g84%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Chicago
<h00k> I'll leave myself a note to write up about Global Jam
<h00k> unless anyone else cares to
<h00k> call-to-arms, etc
<Cheesehead> What have you done in the past?
<Cheesehead> (Both successful and unsuccessful)
<h00k> For which? Global Jam? in general?
<Cheesehead> Jam
<h00k> W were going to have people do testing and bug reporting, checking  in on IRC each hour to talk about their finds
<h00k> nobody else came back :(
<h00k> It was hard to get people to the meeting to discuss it
<h00k> People are all "Yeah, here are my ideas!" and then they never show up
<Cheesehead> I'll show up for that. Before Brainstorm, I hung out in the Bug Squad.
<Cheesehead> Nothing fancy, but I can diagnose easy install failures and assign packages.
<Cheesehead> I'm not good enough to tell when a bug is properly Triaged, but I can usually tell when it's not and what to ask for
<Cheesehead> Brainstormers are much the same - lots of talk, few show up.
<Cheesehead> That's okay.
<Cheesehead> I was thinking of a Friday after-work MKE Ubuntu Hour
<Cheesehead> How about a Sunday midday IRC meet for ...whatever?
<h00k> This sunday?
<Cheesehead> Bugs are good. VMs should make working them a lot easier than it used to be!
<Cheesehead> No, Jam Sunday
<h00k> Oh, oh.
<h00k> Yeah.
<Cheesehead> If I announce a Friday UH on only 24 hrs notice, the resulting turnouts is quite predicatble
 * Cheesehead unfumbles his fingers
<h00k> Feel free to write anything up and ship it out
<Cheesehead> Will do.
<Cheesehead> ...Tomorrow.
<h00k> I'm assisting a friend diagnose a bug at the moment, then I have some more wedding planning
<mikeputnam> h00k: remedied.
<mikeputnam> wisconsinlinux.org no longer mentions a standing 8pm irc meeting for #ubuntu-us-wi
<Cheesehead> Updated the team wiki reports for June, added July report
<h00k> mikeputnam: cool!
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-22
<h00k> Protip. When you have a motorcycle, don't accidentally order pizza for pickup.
<mikeputnam> ha
<Cheesehead> Class earlier today on how to get a LoCo approved/re-approved: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/22/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t16:00
<h00k> *useful Tip* Every time you run any event, write up a report on it, and even take a photo, this will help you when it comes to your application as this shows us and tells us how active you are
<h00k> ;)
<Cheesehead> h00k: <czajkowski> B) Had a team meeting each month - publish the minutes of the meting to a wiki page
<Cheesehead> I can do the publishing if somebody else (nudge) will hold the meeting.
<h00k> I'll hold one if people attend!
<h00k> :D
<Cheesehead> I'll show up.
<Cheesehead> Maybe
<Cheesehead> Depends if I'm in town, of course. Out of town == limited network access
<Cheesehead> I might just attend to make cryptic, almost-on-topic, (not rude) comments
<Cheesehead> "Say, that seems like a great way to arrange it" while nothing is being discussed, etc.
 * Cheesehead noticed that ubuntu-ie has a great Wiki header at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/Toolbox/Wiki/Menu , and is wondering if anyone wants to steal^H^H^H^H^H design one for us
<Cheesehead> Later this afternoon, I'm scouting downtown MKE locations for the Sept 2 Ubuntu Hour.
<Cheesehead> I'll set it up downtown around 18:00 - no contrary feedback so far.
<Cheesehead> I want to see how busy they are Friday after work.
<mikeputnam> see also #devmad for you madison developers
<h00k> the...this one?
<h00k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ie_64_64.png
<h00k> Or, the whole header in general.
<h00k> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/650236/
<h00k> Cheesehead: ^
<h00k> I can work that
<Cheesehead> h00k: Whole header in general.
<Cheesehead> The WI flag adapted to the U logo might turn out a bit...uh...
<Cheesehead> Wierd.  There. I said it.
<Cheesehead> *Weird
<h00k> Cheesehead: the header wiki syntax is in that pastebin above
<h00k> I can work that with relevant info into ours.
<Cheesehead> h00k: I looked at how they did it before I suggested it. Nice bitesize 1-hour project for any lurkers who want to learn wiki skills.
<Cheesehead> h00k: You could ask at the meeting if anyone's interested in contributing it.
<Cheesehead> It doesn't need to be done today.
<Cheesehead> If you do everything, how can anyone else contribute?
<mikeputnam> or conversely if you don't do it yourself no one will
<mikeputnam> depends on the context
<Cheesehead> mikeputnam: But if nobody will take on such a simple contribution, then is it really a group with common interest?
 * Cheesehead rubs his hands. Talking meta-smack can be fun...
<Cheesehead> Well, sure it is...but is it a LoCo team?
 * Cheesehead wonders why he's answering his own silly meta-questions with more of his own silly meta-questions. He should stop that.
<h00k> No, it's true, but it has been a lot of what mikeputnam said
<Cheesehead> h00k: Agreed. I've been part of that problem - I dropped off the radar for *four years*.
<h00k> Cheesehead: it happens :)
<Cheesehead> But now I'm back and do what I can. Just back from scouting a few locations for an Ubuntu Hour.
<Cheesehead> I figure I'll keep up the reports and try the UH for 12 months.
<Cheesehead> About 8 months in, I'll start pestering the list for a padwan.
<Cheesehead> And then turn to other Ubuntu-related interests for the next 12 months or so.
<Cheesehead> Recon report: Success. As hoped, both candidate locations were open, and mostly empty.
<Cheesehead> Good parking, easy transit and bike access.
<Cheesehead> I must choose between the Starbucks and the Panera on the same block.
<Cheesehead> I'm leaning toward Starbucks, as the attendee 'I-must-buy-something' perception will be cheaper. Just a cocoa or a muffin instead of a whole meal.
 * Cheesehead is torn - he *likes* Panera sandwches...
<h00k> Panera, I've heard of tha tplace.
<h00k> Never been to on
<h00k> e
<Cheesehead> They're both just chains.
<h00k> yep.
<Cheesehead> They both just happen to be in the most convenient location.
<h00k> I could do one at a local coffee-shop here, actually.
<h00k> There's one that's decent
<Cheesehead> The place *I* would prefer is probably inconvenient for everybody else.
<h00k> http://www.coffeebeansetc.net/
<h00k> And they have Wifi
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-23
<Cheesehead> Mine would be http://www.anodynecoffee.com/ , and they have WiFi.
<h00k> Nice.
<h00k> I had one up in Superior, but I didn't document it :(
<h00k> I think I had two
<Cheesehead> hook: Looks like you have 50% of a Sept 2 Ubuntu Hour plan already
<Cheesehead> Simultaneous UH's connected by IRC?
<h00k> Cheesehead: I have to check my schedule, but I certainly could
<h00k> And yeah, we could with either IRC or a Google Hangout or something
<Cheesehead> Let's start with IRC to hide the dismal turnout.
<h00k> ^.^
<Cheesehead> Honestly, if one or two people drop by to shake hands, that would be a wild success for the first one.
<h00k> I could probably get Jim T. to show up around here
<h00k> I don't know where my (to-be) wife will be, which means I may be up in Superior
<Cheesehead> Well one nice element of a UH is just an hour. A nice book and a cup of coffee while the men do their silly geek-club-thing
<Cheesehead> Loved ones can feel involved without actually needing to be involved.
<Cheesehead> Perhaps 'included' is a better term.
<Cheesehead> I might bring one of my kids. Depends who's least whiny.
<Cheesehead> MKE Location: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=43.048193,-87.904347&spn=0.003418,0.006373&t=h&z=17
<h00k> Hey, look. Panera.
 * Cheesehead 's spouse recommended Starbucks
<Cheesehead> I think we'll try it at Starbucks
<Cheesehead> Ugh. Stoopid Jedi Mind Trick.
<h00k> :D
<Cheesehead> h00k: I just sent the MKE Ubuntu Hour e-mail to the list
<Cheesehead> I'm committed now.
<Cheesehead> Hey, anyone here hang with MKE LUG?  (Been there, but I can't make Saturday meetings)
<Cheesehead> h00k: Can we add http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/events to the main wiki page?
<Cheesehead> I can do it; I won't do it without asking first.
<Cheesehead> For anyone who's not on the mailing list: MKE Ubuntu Hour: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1093/detail/
 * Cheesehead wanders off for the night
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-24
 * Cheesehead yawns
<h00k> Sure, we can
<h00k> Oh, we have it
<h00k> Oh, look: WisconsinTeam (last edited 2011-07-23 22:51:44 by ian-weisser) ;)
<h00k> Let me adjust the domain, too
<h00k> I adjusted the main page, but we can probably scrape http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/events on http://ubuntu-wisconsin.org/c/news/
<h00k> Yeah that'll need some adjusting yet
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-25
<Cheesehead> h00k: LoCo wiki page.  Yeah, last night the idea fairy visited me
<Cheesehead> And she wouldn't stop hitting me until I added the upcoming events link.
<Cheesehead> If it helps with scraping, that events page has an ical link.
 * Cheesehead doesn't use ical. If he doesn't remember it, then it wasn't worth remembering.
<h00k> Cheesehead: Yeah, we have a syndication plugin that does the blog syndication, I just have to figure out how to have it get the events similarly
<h00k> oi
<mikeputnam> salutations
<h00k> It's a MC Chris morning
<mikeputnam> i had a #11 2 Breakfast Burritos, hash brown thingy,  and a black coffee
<mikeputnam> MCBreakfast
<mikeputnam> oO
<h00k> I like those breakfast burritos
<mikeputnam> cheesy-eggy-chewy-tortillaz
<h00k> of delicious
<h00k> I haven't had any in a while
<mikeputnam> i shouldn't have had any. taste gud = bad for me.   :(
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-26
 * Cheesehead comes back in for breakfast after a long morning painting
<h00k> painting, that sounds fun
<h00k> I took a convenient motorcycle ride to our datacenter and back
<mikeputnam> h00k: when i interned at a bank, i'd ride my motorcycle to work and bungee desktops to the rear seat
<mikeputnam> then claim mileage
<mikeputnam> :)
<h00k> mikeputnam: that's awesome. I have the Ubuntu bag from store.canonical.com that fits my laptop nicely
 * Cheesehead comes in for a break after this fifth hour of painting.
<Cheesehead> Ah, I think I'm about done with it for the day.
<Cheesehead> Now for more bookkeeping...
<Cheesehead> ...or perhaps a nap first...
<h00k> naps are fantastic
<h00k> I want one.
<h00k> but I have to iron a bunch again.
 * Cheesehead yawns
<Cheesehead> That was a great nap
<Cheesehead> Followed by a couple great hours of (sigh) bookkeeping
<h00k> more ironing
<Cheesehead> What are you ironing, an airport?
<h00k> no, chair covers for the reception
<Cheesehead> Congratulations must be  in order then. When is the date?
<h00k> Saturday
<Cheesehead> Most felicitations.
<Cheesehead> My wedding was a lot of fun. My bro-in-law did the DJ, and he was great.
<Cheesehead> How do you type while ironing?
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-27
<h00k> practice
#ubuntu-us-wi 2011-07-28
<mikeputnam> 7/28 today
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<h00k> Hi
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<ubuntu76> hello
<ubuntu76> will return when there is an active conversation
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<kiwi_61> I am looking for some help setting up an old PC with a usb printer connected to it as a Ubuntu Print server with Samba and Cups
<kiwi_61> I followed the Ubuntu guide ... edited the conf files and restarted the services ... My windows PCs can not see the Ununtu box

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