#ubuntuone 2009-10-01 <koolhead> hi all <statik> hola <jblount> MEETING BEGINS <jblount> Hi everyone! If you are here for the Ubuntu One Desktop+ Developers meeting, could you please respond with "me"? We'll report on status (DONE/TODO/BLOCKED) in order of the "me" responses. <statik> me <teknico> me <jblount> me <sysdoc> me <teknico> well, it was bound to happen, sooner or later :-) <rodrigo_> me <statik> oh,Â aquariusÂ doesn'tÂ haveÂ networkÂ currently,Â askedÂ meÂ toÂ sendÂ hisÂ apologies <statik> DONE:Â vacation,Â fixedÂ aÂ securityÂ bug,Â aboutÂ 10Â phoneÂ calls <statik> TODO:Â helpÂ fixÂ allÂ theÂ remainingÂ bugsÂ forÂ karmicÂ :) <statik> BLCK:Â none <CardinalFang> me <statik> teknico, yourÂ turn <teknico> DONE: more reviews; implemented and proposed a branch for contacts deletion (#406314); fixed a bug and landed a branch about desktopcouch getting deleted records (#439861); explored the javascript code in the files web ui with urbanape <teknico> TODO: review the use cases and wireframes for the contacts web ui (#399664), apply the contacts web design structure to server-side code (#439089) <teknico> BLOCK: none <teknico> next: jblount <urbanape> me <jblount> DONE: Work on /files/ redesign <jblount> TODO: Update joshuahoover on redesign bugs, finish /files/ redesign work, extend to the rest of the site, <jblount> BLOCKED: /files/ is taking longer than expected. Not blocked, but worth noting. <jblount> sysdoc: next? <sysdoc> by me <statik> sysdoc, it'sÂ okÂ ifÂ youÂ areÂ justÂ hereÂ toÂ observe,Â welcome.Â rodrigoÂ next?Â dobey,Â youÂ around? <rodrigo_> â¢ DONE: More Tomboy syncing debugging for edge/production. Got evo-couchdb, couchdb-glib and tomboy package fixes nominated for karmic. Proposed couchdb-glib/evolution-couchdb for inclusion in GNOME 2.29 <rodrigo_> â¢ TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI. API documentation for couchdb-glib <rodrigo_> â¢ BLOCKED: no <rodrigo_> next: CardinalFang <CardinalFang> DONE: worked on couchdb crash with #couchdb, got some patches. Applied to package. Bug#439499 <CardinalFang> TODO: Test packages, tweak patches, submit to uploaders. Perhaps recommend to cloud couchdb owner. <CardinalFang> BLOCKING: None, probably. <CardinalFang> urbanapÃ©! <urbanape> DONE: More work on BIndwood manifest branch. <urbanape> TODO: Land it <urbanape> BLOCK: None <vds> me <urbanape> vds: you're up <vds> DONE: still cloud_server and twisted <vds> TODO: go ahead till the daemon does all it is supposed to do! <vds> BLOCKED: nope <dobey> me <dobey> âº DONE: Backport python-oauth, Update ubunet-dependencies, File RT for install on servers <dobey> â¹ TODO: Fix more bugs. <dobey> â¹ BLCK: None. <statik> iÂ thinksÂ thatsÂ everyoneÂ whoÂ showedÂ up.Â wowÂ everyoneÂ hasÂ beenÂ busy <statik> jblount,Â okÂ toÂ closeÂ itÂ out? <jblount> statik: yep! <jblount> MEETING ENDS <rodrigo_> dobey: so the python-oauth stuff is done then? just waiting for it to be installed on the server? <statik> vds, i'dÂ likeÂ toÂ knowÂ moreÂ aboutÂ theÂ cloud_serverÂ andÂ twisted,Â areÂ thereÂ someÂ bugÂ numbers/branchesÂ forÂ thatÂ workÂ thatÂ IÂ canÂ lookÂ at? <statik> jblount,Â isÂ thereÂ aÂ branchÂ iÂ canÂ lookÂ atÂ forÂ theÂ redesignÂ stuff? <dobey> rodrigo_: building the packages in the hackers ppa right now <rodrigo_> cool! <jblount> statik: lp:~jblount/ubuntuone-servers/one-branch-to-rule-them-all :) <vds> statik: I think lucio is working on filing the bug for that <jblount> statik: That branch has all of the js stuff that urbanape and sidnei worked on last week, combined with my new template stuff. <urbanape> yay, jblount <dobey> maybe i should try to work on tarmac today <jblount> Ok, I need to step away for a bit. Be back in an hour or so. <aquarius> jblount, I believe I checked that "do the CSS for the notes web UI" was a bug on your list, but now I can't find it :( <statik> hi urbanape, when i pulled in todays karmic updates i got a message about bindwood not being compatible, but the second time i started firefox i didn't get that message <statik> urbanape, i don't know whether we need a bug about updating bindwood supported version string, or whether it was a temporal kind of thing that won't be seen in the final release <urbanape> statik, hmm... that's odd <urbanape> what version of ff is in the update? <urbanape> I'm using 3.5.3 now <urbanape> which should be within the supported range <statik> urbanape, firefox: <statik> Installed: 3.5.4~hg20090930r26445+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 <statik> i've gotta run for now, but wanted to at least mention that i bumped into it. might turn out to be nothing <urbanape> k, thx <urbanape> well, that was an interesting bug <CardinalFang> verterok, what version of desktopcouch were you running to get bug#440072 <CardinalFang> ? <verterok> CardinalFang: let me check <verterok> CardinalFang: 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 <CardinalFang> verterok, Weird. I can't see what would cause that. <CardinalFang> Some scoping change? I'll make the references explicit. <verterok> CardinalFang: let me know if you need me to test something :) <CardinalFang> verterok: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/dbus-refs-explicit-and-rm-resolve-on-disappear <CardinalFang> verterok, how's that? <CardinalFang> verterok, I can give you a diff if you prefer. <verterok> CardinalFang: I'm getting the diff :) <CardinalFang> verterok, today's couchdb package fixes peer-peer replication. It's in the upload queue, but I can put them in my PPA. <verterok> CardinalFang: can I start desktopcouch-service from a branch? <CardinalFang> verterok, yes. That exception happened in pairing, but it should have been the same as service. <CardinalFang> verterok, $ PYTHONPATH=. python bin/desktopcouch-service <verterok> cool <verterok> CardinalFang: I just got https://pastebin.canonical.com/22855/ <verterok> but don't looks like related to the change <CardinalFang> verterok, yes, not important, but ugly. <verterok> CardinalFang: https://pastebin.canonical.com/22856/ <CardinalFang> verterok: Wut? <verterok> CardinalFang: that was doing the pairing <CardinalFang> verterok, that makes no sense. <CardinalFang> verterok, at the top of discover_services , please put assert add_commport_name_cb is not None . <verterok> ok <verterok> CardinalFang: AssertionError on startup <CardinalFang> verterok: stack trace? <verterok> CardinalFang: https://pastebin.canonical.com/22857/ <CardinalFang> Wtf. <CardinalFang> What braindead moron added that?!!@# <CardinalFang> Oh. Me. <CardinalFang> Fortunately, it didnt' do anything except flod the log and waste our time. Dang. <statik> CardinalFang, you are welcome to copy packages over to the ubuntuone/hackers PPA if our devs need it for running tests now and don't want to wait for the upload queue <CardinalFang> statik, Rgr. I will prepare a package soon just for that. * CardinalFang eyes dput suspiciously. <CardinalFang> thisfred, Got a minute to review? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/dbus-refs-explicit-and-rm-resolve-on-disappear/+merge/12747 <thisfred> CardinalFang: sure! <thisfred> on it <CardinalFang> thisfred, on that page, the last two lines fixes verterok's problem. <thisfred> kk <CardinalFang> thisfred, I fixed one additional problem: When services disappear, we shouldn't try to resolve them. It's impossible. <CardinalFang> thisfred, Finally, I made changes to the callback references because verterok convinced me (incorrectly) that Python closures are broken or I don't understand them. In fact, I didn't need to change most of the middle scottashley@example.org. * verterok hides * verterok just filed a bug <CardinalFang> It's okay verterok. You did good. <thisfred> CardinalFang: eh, ok. So are you reverting those changes, or is there still some benefit to them? Or did I misparse that sentence? <verterok> :) <CardinalFang> thisfred, I don't plan to revert because it's slightly better this way, I think. I prefer explicit values and namespaces spook me. <thisfred> CardinalFang: +1000 <CardinalFang> Python 4 may fix the scoping rules. <thisfred> explicit is better than implicit * thisfred blushingly admits to a dislike of lambda's in python <CardinalFang> "Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch." <thisfred> hehe <thisfred> I think that particular scope may be too wide: "unless you're GvR" is closer probably ;) <thisfred> at least, it took me a while to see the obviousness in some cases <thisfred> so is this in fact currying you're doing with the lambda? :) <CardinalFang> thisfred, Naw, I'm just shrinking the closure area from 50 lines to one line. <thisfred> CardinalFang: found a few small issues, which may have been there before your branch... <thisfred> actually I'm pretty sure they were, but they still need to be fixed. <CardinalFang> shoot! <thisfred> also, won't this blow up if there is more than one arg?: def handle_error(*args): <thisfred> """An error in resolving a new service.""" <thisfred> logging.error("zeroconf ItemNew error for services, %s", args) <CardinalFang> No. <CardinalFang> thisfred, Lists are str-ized there. <CardinalFang> Tuples, actually. It's right. <CardinalFang> logging.error(fmt, *args) <CardinalFang> logging.error(fmt, *formatargs) # better. <CardinalFang> So, args is the first item of formatargs. ( args, ) <thisfred> CardinalFang: ah, right, I wasn't aware of logging.error doing special stuff, I missed it wasn't a string interpolation <CardinalFang> thisfred, You would be totally right if that "," were "%". <thisfred> CardinalFang: exactly, so, withdrawn ;)( <thisfred> perhaps all my other comments are similarly misguided... <thisfred> but it's still guilty until proven innocent :P <CardinalFang> thisfred, Okay. <thisfred> that means repushed? Or that you've stopped talking to me? :) <thisfred> CardinalFang: ^ <CardinalFang> thisfred, Updated. Pushed. And I'm not talking to you any more. <thisfred> great. fine. <thisfred> (and we don't even have aquarius here to act as a go-between...) <thisfred> ubottu: can you ask CardinalFang why it is that I don't get any changes to replication.py? <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) <thisfred> CardinalFang: or were those not bugs? <CardinalFang> ubottu, are you as confused as to what thisfred is talking about as I am! <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) <CardinalFang> thisfred, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/dbus-refs-explicit-and-rm-resolve-on-disappear/revision/80 <thisfred> ubottu: please tell CardinalFang that I remerged his branch thrice, then branched it directly, got revision 80, and yet I see no changes. Could you kindly investigate whether he deigned to actually save his changes (if any) to the file in question? <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) <thisfred> CardinalFang: ah, I see <CardinalFang> thisfred, I'll change a few more things. <thisfred> CardinalFang: the long lines are gone, but not the spurious imports, and also not the undefined sn variables? <CardinalFang> thisfred, revno 81 pushed. <CardinalFang> thisfred, Have you read "The Baroque Cycle" three books by Neal Stephenson? <thisfred> CardinalFang: indeed I have! <thisfred> wrong answer? :) <thisfred> CardinalFang: indeed I have! <CardinalFang> thisfred, "^W" <CardinalFang> thisfred, the Jack / Pasha scene in which they communicate via the floor boards and dirt is hilarious. <thisfred> hehe, yeah, I'd forgotten about that. It's been a while. I should reread it, but I think I gave the books away. <thisfred> O well, I have a library 1 minute's walk away <CardinalFang> "O most noble floor, exalted above all pavements....Though you have already been generous far beyond my deserts in allowing me to grovel on you, I have yet another request: The next time you have the high honor to come into contact with the sole of the Pashaâs slipper, will you please most humbly beseech said item of footwear to inform the Pasha that the following conditions exist..." <thisfred> :) * rmcbride changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: File Sharing for Ubuntu | https://ubuntuone.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Current Beta Client Revno is 231, Protocol Revno is 71 | Release 0.95.0 (protocol) 0.96.0 (client) <statik> jblount: should this bug be marked as in-progress rather than triaged? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/435314 <ubottu> Error: This bug is private <jblount> statik: Marked as 'in progress' now. Did you see the plan of attack stuff urbanape sent your way? <statik> jblount: not yet, but i will read it tonight <jblount> statik: It was in IRC and basically amounts to "Let's get /files/ and the website static ish stuff done for Tuesday, then scamble on /contacts/ and /notes/ for Thursday" <statik> jblount: oh right. i like that plan <jblount> statik: He is a smart monkey. <statik> telling me no when i ask for too agressive of a schedule is a very important skill to have :) #ubuntuone 2009-10-02 <CardinalFang> jdobrien, thisfred, aquarius: Okay, I'm finally awake. Let's bring the replication talk here. <aquarius> hey <aquarius> kk * CardinalFang curses xchat ^W <jdobrien> hi CardinalFang <aquarius> right <aquarius> CardinalFang, does replication work for you? <aquarius> CardinalFang, with your encode-db-names branch, I mean <CardinalFang> jdobrien, aquarius, no. I get HTTP 500s, and I don't think I should get those. <aquarius> *500*? <aquarius> blimey, I don't get 500s <aquarius> where do you get them? <CardinalFang> aquarius, jdobrien: Python -> cloud couchdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283814/ <CardinalFang> aquarius, jdobrien: couchdb -> cloud couchdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283805/ <aquarius> right, I get the second of those <aquarius> the first of those I do not get <aquarius> I was getting 401 for python->cloudcouch, until I changed the OAuth signature method to PLAINTEXT <CardinalFang> Mine is already PLAINTEX. <thisfred> yoyoyo <jdobrien> CardinalFang, ? <CardinalFang> jdobrien, ! * jdobrien puts on "Everyday is like Sunday" so he feels like it's the weekend <aquarius> I wish python-couchdb didn't use HEADs for everything, because you don't get the body telling you what the problem is :( <jdobrien> aquarius, ditch it <aquarius> jdobrien, I am thinking of doing exactly that for lucid <aquarius> not now, though. That's a radical change. statik will boil us in oil if we do it after beta. ;) <jdobrien> yes <CardinalFang> jdobrien, can you see the error log for the server? <jdobrien> CardinalFang, not live <jdobrien> CardinalFang, I am going to ping a losa and get it <thisfred> aquarius: can we hack python-couchdb to temporarily not do that? <aquarius> thisfred, not quickly. <aquarius> I don't think <thisfred> shit <aquarius> hang on, I'll have a look * thisfred looks <aquarius> hahahaa I lie <aquarius> one line change <aquarius> there is a head() method in couchdb.client <aquarius> just change it to do "GET" :) <thisfred> aquarius: always with the lying <aquarius> CardinalFang, that would be useful for your 500s. couchdb/client.py, line 986 <thisfred> aquarius: actually I see 5 head calls <thisfred> still <aquarius> where? <thisfred> and my client only has 976 lines <aquarius> the only place in the whole file that says HEAD (in caps) is that method <thisfred> so maybe different version <thisfred> aquarius: ah, I was looking at the lowercase calls to head() <thisfred> you're smarter <aquarius> I have karmic's python-couchdb * CardinalFang is afk 5 min. <thisfred> aquarius: I'm looking at the one in our sourcecode, so yeah <aquarius> ok, I get a 400 when trying to do replication because we're talking to the cloud couch using the wrong oauth tokens; i.e., we're using the local tokens, for some reason <thisfred> aquarius: ah <aquarius> can't work out why, though. am confused by chasing around inside replication.py <thisfred> I thought CardinalFang already landed a fix for that <thisfred> aquarius: yeah the import code is rather freaky <thisfred> aquarius: it looks up ubuntuone.py by variable name <thisfred> I would have just used an explicit registry <thisfred> (or that's even too fancy a word, a dictionary "constant") <facundobatista> Hi all <thisfred> aquarius: so, but everything happens in replication_services/ubuntuone.py <thisfred> hi facundobatista <aquarius> am confused to hell by replication.py/couchdb_io.py. get_database_names_replicatable seems to not be setting up the connection right, but...where do the oauth tokens get injected in? <aquarius> this is my head proving to me that it's harder for me to read code than it is to write it. :) <aquarius> wtf? it's trying to read the management database on the *remote* server to see which databases need replicating. <aquarius> this is not gonna work. :) <CardinalFang> Eh? <aquarius> CardinalFang, replication.py, line 175 <thisfred> aquarius: perhaps your management db was one that was prepared earlier, by code that was ehhh, in flux? <aquarius> for remote_db_name in couchdb_io.get_database_names_replicatable(couchdb_io.mkuri(addr, port)) <aquarius> addr, port is the remote DB <aquarius> and get_database_names_replicatable looks at the management DB to work out which database names there are <thisfred> hmm <CardinalFang> Or, which ones it should not replcate. <aquarius> I think that line should have localhost, int(local_port) in it, like line 161 does <aquarius> CardinalFang, but I might be misunderstanding this code <CardinalFang> aquarius, I think you're right. <aquarius> this doesn't solve the problem that couch-to-couch replication doesn't work, which looks like a couch bug to me <CardinalFang> aquarius, it works between peers. <aquarius> CardinalFang, yeah, but it reads the *other* machine's management database. So it works between peers by accident, no? ;) <CardinalFang> aquarius, No it doesn't. peers is the first half of the do_all_replication function. <CardinalFang> Services is the second half. <aquarius> oh, yeah, we don't do pull from peers, got it <aquarius> peers push to us. <CardinalFang> Rgr. <aquarius> I'm going to talk to the couch guys about replication not working <CardinalFang> I think we need log files first, yes? <aquarius> that's why I did http://friendpaste.com/7K7zNRMK0sEaITradrRXAt <aquarius> if they need logfiles from the other end, then yeah <aquarius> jdobrien, how do we get logfiles from cloud couch/ <aquarius> ? <jdobrien> aquarius, I had them copied over but haven't looked yet. check the private channel for details <jdobrien> CardinalFang, aquarius: how about this addition to the api: 'cloudsync': {'dbprefix': 'u/a87/ff6/4', 'host': 'http://localhost:6612'}, <jdobrien> that would be real data of course <aquarius> jdobrien, what's "host"? <jdobrien> aquarius, in production it would be https://couchdb.o.u.c <aquarius> but, er, it'll always be that, right? <jdobrien> aquarius, not in testing and locally <jdobrien> aquarius, you know, when we right integrations tests :) <CardinalFang> jdobrien, Please make the prefix something I should append to directly. <CardinalFang> jdobrien, That is, put a slash on the end if my db name "foo" shouldn't be 'u/a87/ff6/4foo' <aquarius> jdobrien, a not totally unreasonable point. ;-) <CardinalFang> jdobrien, I heartily approve of this. <jdobrien> thisfred, CardinalFang, aquarius: I am just returning whatever get_user_db_path returns * dobey wonders what is using all his network * dobey wishes top had a %NET column <jamalta> dobey: now that would be convinient <jblount> MEETING STARTS <jblount> Welcome to the Ubuntu One Desktop+ developers meeting. Anyone can watch, but to give your status please respond with "me". <jdobrien> thisfred, CardinalFang, aquarius: I don't really want the API code deciding it should end in a slash <urbanape> me <aquarius> me <teknico> me <dobey> me <jblount> me (although I'm always tempted to say meeesa like Jar Jar Binks) <CardinalFang> me <dobey> jblount: just a warning, i have an itchy trigger finger <urbanape> DONE: Working on one-branch-to-rule-them-all with jblount. Got folder and file actions to conditionally show based on whether the user has delete or write privileges in that context. Dropped Bindwood development for Karmic. Will pick it up after release for our PPA and Lucid. <urbanape> TODO: Running tests before commit and push. Find some other functionality that needs work on the files UI. <urbanape> BLOCK: None. <urbanape> aquarius: pour it on <vds> me <aquarius> â DONE: had no internet connection; was annoyed; working on DC-to-cloud replication <aquarius> â TODO: DC-to-cloud replication; fix unknownloginerror; look at oauth-enabling twisted <aquarius> â BLOCKED: <aquarius> â BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 1 <aquarius> teknico, you're up <teknico> DONE: updating the contacts web ui code to the sprint use cases (#440070); fixed a bug in the cloud_server CouchDb code <teknico> TODO: updating the contacts web ui code to the sprint use cases (#440070); apply the contacts web design structure to server-side code (#439089) <teknico> BLOCK: none <thisfred> ( jblount : just for that you get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUQfHRfX2o8 ) <teknico> next: dobey <dobey> âº DONE: Fixed #371674 (friendly names in web ui) <dobey> â¹ TODO: Fix more bugs. <dobey> â¹ BLCK: None. <dobey> jblount: *bang* <jblount> DONE: More work on the /files/ UI, chats with joshuahoover and teknico and urbanape about scheduling the redesign (and keeping lp:~jblount/ubuntuone-servers/one-branch-to-rule-them-all from getting too big. <jblount> TODO: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=jblount&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic&field.tags_combinator=ANY <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope <jblount> CardinalFang: OH HAI <CardinalFang> Sorry, not ready yet. <jblount> vds: Want to cut in line? <vds> DONE: cloud_server quota integration almost done, code review <vds> TODO: finish integration, code review <vds> BLOCKED: nope <CardinalFang> DONE: Closed and triaged several bugs. Fixed #440072, #435484, . Started encoding of db names in couchdb replication. Packaged couchdb, and added to new PPA. <CardinalFang> TODO: Get d-c replicating to cloud. <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None, maybe. <jblount> CardinalFang: Thanks <jblount> MEETING ENDS <CardinalFang> jdobrien, I don't really care. You're changing path into prefix, but I can fix it up. <urbanape> man, what the heck happened to the tests? crazy errors in parts of the code I'm not even touching. <urbanape> jblount, when was the last time trunk-2a was merged into o-b-t-r-t-a? <jblount> urbanape: It's been maybe a week? <urbanape> does bzr merge not have a dry-run option? <urbanape> only 2 conflicts. I'll do that on my branch <mac_v> hi all.. i remove ubuntuone from the bookmarks and.... everytime i start ubuntuone it keeps adding itself to the bookmarks.. how do i prevent this? <facu> mac_v, which bookmarks? how do you start ubuntuone? <mac_v> facu: the nautilus bookmarks[places menu]... i start U1 from the applications menu , i dont have it in the startup list <mac_v> BTW , i'm on karmic <facu> dobey, ping <dobey> facu: hi <dobey> mac_v: you can't prevent it yet <dobey> mac_v: it's a known/open bug <mac_v> dobey: argh! ... really frustrating bug.. * mac_v searches for bug# <dobey> mac_v: unfortunately it's not possible to know that the user doesn't want the bookmark there, programmatically <facu> dobey, maybe handling it in the configuration? <mac_v> dobey: cant there be a gconf seting somewhere? <mac_v> this is *the* main reason , i dont even start U1 :( <mac_v> dobey: do you happen to know the bug# ? for some reason its hiding from me ;) <dobey> what is the problem with having it in the bookmarks? <dobey> i don't know the bug # no, i'd have to look for it <mac_v> dobey: a bookmark in the menu for something i dont even need often is frustrating ;p ... i use it rarely and this makes it even rarer ;) <dobey> mac_v: you have some odd logic :) <dobey> mac_v: the reason we add the bookmark of course is that for us to show up in places, the only way is to add the bookmark, since we're not a mounted filesystem (and if we were, you wouldn't be able to remove it from the places list either (well, you'd have to stop the service, unmounting it)) <mac_v> dobey: a bookmark is for something you use often... when this keeps adding it self , the menu becomes bigger... i want to only see the bookmarks i use often not other bookmarks which i use rarely ... ;) also since the folder can be brought up from the notification area , i dont see why this is absolutely essential ;p <dobey> mac_v: 99% of the time, the applet icon is hidden <mac_v> oh! <dobey> mac_v: it's only shown when actively syncing, or when disconnected <mac_v> dobey: hmm.. doesnt hide for me... is it timed to disappear ? maybe i dont use it for long enough <dobey> mac_v: it times out after connecting/updating <dobey> mac_v: if it's disconnected, it's always show (so you can click/connect) <mac_v> oh ... ok <mac_v> dobey: you could add the bookmark , similar to how indicator applet adds itself to the panel... i-a uses the /usr/share/gnome-panel/add-indicator-applet.py <mac_v> i-a is added only once and then sets itself a gconf to not add again <sysdoc> Ubuntuone seems to be uploading files but they do not show up in the web interface, have read where others are having the same problem, has anyone head of a possible fix and a time line? <sysdoc> heard* <aquarius> CardinalFang, lp:~sil/desktopcouch/replicate-u1-encode-db-names is a tiny branch on top of your branch of the same name <aquarius> CardinalFang, so you probably want to pull it into your branch <aquarius> CardinalFang, it makes the signing stuff correctly use "https" in the URL to sign <aquarius> CardinalFang, this will make requests to the cloud fail, until jasondavies' patch lands in cloud couchdb and we have the apache proxy set the header correctly <CardinalFang> aquarius, do you mind making a bug for that? The distro folks will want to know why code is changing. <facu> sysdoc, I know that we had issues about notifications <sysdoc> facu, nitifications? <sysdoc> notifications?* whew <facu> sysdoc, I mean the notifications used to synchronize the different elements <facu> sysdoc, so you make a change through your desktop, and takes some time to show in the web ui <sysdoc> facu, is 8 hours more than enough time? lol <facu> sysdoc, I'm checking right now the status <sysdoc> facu, thx <facu> sysdoc, they're telling me that there isn't anything in the web UI to do live updates <facu> sysdoc, and that you should reload the page in the browser to see the changes <sysdoc> facu, well that was the 1 st thing I did assuming it would be there, and of course it is not <urbanape> eventually, we may explore Comet or other long polling to get a more responsive UI <urbanape> but for now, yes, reloading should bring in the new information. <aquarius> CardinalFang, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/desktopcouch/+bug/440660 and assigned to you <ubottu> Launchpad bug 440660 in desktopcouch "Correctly use https in OAuth signed URL when making SSL requests" [Undecided,New] <urbanape> if it's not showing up after a reload 8 hours later, that sounds like a bug. <sysdoc> Have uploaded this file twice, and on both occasions the file has not been on the site. <facu> sysdoc, but you did reload the page, right? <aquarius> CardinalFang, I'll do a bug against couchdb as well for reading X-Forwarded-Ssl <sysdoc> facu, as I stated before that was the 1st thing I did... <sysdoc> And have tried reloading, reuploading the file twice now and still nothing in the web...:) <urbanape> do other of your files show up in the web ui? <sysdoc> UbuntuOne fail... I'm moving on...:) <sysdoc> urbanape, negative <sysdoc> Said that it was uploading 2 files have no idea where the 2 nd one was, but that is what I got in the notification pop up on the local machine.. <aquarius> grrrrrrr! <aquarius> CardinalFang, I can't report a bug against couchdb -- launchpad sends me to the wiki, and ubuntu-bug says "this is not a genuine ubuntu package". <CardinalFang> aquarius, yeah, don't bother there. <CardinalFang> aquarius, what did we decide about the sig method? <aquarius> well...PLAINTEXT works. HMAC ought to work, but the python-oauth stuff is still being done by dobey and rodrigo, I think <facu> sysdoc, so you should open a bug :| <facu> sysdoc, please, attach the full log ($HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log) to see if the file was uploaded correctly * jblount wonders if anyone else hides when the door rings at their house. <sysdoc> facu, there are many bugs reporting this very same behavior. Well look at the log file to see if there is anything of interest when I have time <facu> sysdoc, ok, thanks! <facu> sysdoc, seek for "error", it shouldn't be any <jamalta> jblount: lol, i kinda do.. i sneakily try to peek at who it is <aquarius> CardinalFang, I need to head off because it's my weekend with my daughter. Is there anything you need from me before I go? <CardinalFang> aquarius, Yes. Fix it all. * aquarius laughs <CardinalFang> aquarius, Have a nice weekend. * facu -> reboot <aquarius> CardinalFang, if you drop me a mail this evening letting me know where we're up to, I'll take a look over the weekend if I get a chance, or Monday morning <CardinalFang> aquarius, WIll do. <aquarius> have a good weekend, all <statik> CardinalFang, is this bug fixed already? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/desktopcouch/+bug/423237 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 423237 in desktopcouch "package couchdb 0.10.0~svn809550-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,In progress] <statik> oops, just noticed it was assigned to me <statik> rmcbride, could you see if this problem still exists with the current packages? I'm inclined to close it as no longer happening: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/desktopcouch/+bug/423237 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 423237 in desktopcouch "package couchdb 0.10.0~svn809550-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,In progress] <CardinalFang> statik, I haven't seen that lately. <statik> CardinalFang, rmcbride: if it doesn't happen when upgrading from jaunty to karmic now, then i think the bug should be closed. <dobey> heh <dobey> CardinalFang: do you have packages from kenvandine's ppa installed? <kenvandine> dobey, i doubt it... don't think i ever had that snapshot in my ppa <dobey> kenvandine: no, but most of us have the current packages in your ppa installed to fix another problem (and i think those packages also fix that problem), but i presume that version isn't in ubuntu yet <CardinalFang> dobey, er, for couchdb-bin? I have a new version arriving in Karmic, Real Soon Now. <dobey> ok, cool * CardinalFang boggles at slowness of us.archive.u.c . <dobey> welcome to The Day After Beta <dobey> it's like The Day After Tomorrow, but not as cold. <thisfred> The Day after Tomorrow the musical: "you" <thisfred> re always two days away <rmcbride> statik: hmm. That'll take some setting up. I have some stuff running on my jaunty box right now. (just saw the question in this channel). I'll look at it after teh current effort <statik> rmcbride: thanks. <CardinalFang> I'm going to set up a Jaunty image soon. <nzmm> hi i dont understand how to add a computer. I click Ubuntu One and nothing seems to happen <nzmm> nm i figured it out <CardinalFang> nzmm, what did you expect, and what did you have to do? We hate surprises. Maybe we can make something better. <rmcbride> statik: CardinalFang: my virtualization server seems to have caught the swine flu. I'm going to upgrade my other netbook, which is still on jaunty and test #423237 that way <CardinalFang> rmcbride, Rgr. <CardinalFang> jdobrien, how do I know when the u1 cloud couchdb is upgraded? <nzmm> CardinalFang: so i clicked UbuntuOne in the main menu, and all i got was silence. No feedback of any sort. I use Opera btw. My solution was to right click the disconnected UbuntuOne and click Go to Web, which took me to the add computer dialog. From there on, things were fine <jdobrien> CardinalFang, i don't know <CardinalFang> nzmm, Hrm. Suppose you open a terminal and type: $ gnome-open http://example.com/ # what happens? <nzmm> CardinalFang: also the tray icon does not animate like dropboxs' does during update. I find that disconcerting from a, is it doing anything point of view. <nzmm> i get a new tab in Opera <nzmm> opera -notrayicon -newpage %s <--- the command in preferred programs for opening new browser <nzmm> also i think you need an 'in progress' emblem for files yet to be synced, ala dropbox. and emblems should apply to folders as well imho <statik> nzmm, thanks for the suggestions. the tray icon animating is a very controversial topic, it used to animate and we got rid of the animation. for the other suggestions, filing bug reports is the best way to ensure they don't get forgotten in the mists of long lost IRC logs <nzmm> ok <vladanian> Hey guys, is the "Tomboy Web" sync w/ ubuntu one working for people? <statik> vladanian, it was broken until earlier today. we did a DB update for the OAuth credentials a couple of hours ago and I thought rodrigo said it worked for him after that. <statik> vladanian, are you getting 'server is not responding'? <vladanian> statik: yes, and the debug info tells me error 400 bad request <statik> vladanian, this is the version i have: emurphy@sunk:~$ apt-cache policy tomboy <statik> tomboy: <statik> Installed: 1.0.0-0ubuntu1 <kenvandine> hey vladanian <vladanian> hey ken <statik> i know there was a patch this week uploaded about fixing the HMAC-SHA1 signature <vladanian> statik: I have 1.0.0-0ubuntu1 <kenvandine> [ERROR]: Failed to get auth URL from https://one.ubuntu.com/notes/. Exception was: System.UriFormatException: Absolute URI is too short <kenvandine> is what i get <statik> vladanian, bummer :( could you file a bug? rmcbride, you're probably interested in tracking the testing status of tomboy also ^ <vladanian> statik: Ok, I will <rmcbride> statik: most definitely <vladanian> Are the ubuntu update servers crazy slow for you guys, too? Is people downloading the beta that's causing this? It's like I'm on dialup over here <kenvandine> vladanian, slow for me too <statik> vladanian, yes there is lots of slowness today <dobey> the tray icon has an 'updating' icon now btw <dobey> not animating, but it shows it's updating stuff <kenvandine> vladanian, everyone upgrading to the beta :) <dobey> the browser thing sounds weird <dobey> "Go to Web" doesn't open the "Add this computer" page, it just opens the main page. <vladanian> kenvandine: It's pretty bad ass. I've playing w/ fedora 12 the past week -- the gap is widening all the time <kenvandine> :) <vladanian> I'm going to continue my fedora tests in a vm :) <kenvandine> rmcbride, so the server should be ready to handle the tomboy syncing now? <kenvandine> i just assumed that wasn't up yet <rmcbride> kenvandine: that's my understanding. I'm not handling infrastructure on that. statik's comment was more toward the fact that the feature's testable/usable status is of interest to me. <kenvandine> ok <vladanian> statik: I filed the bug here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/440862 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 440862 in tomboy "Tomboy Web synchronization fails to connect to Ubuntu One" [Undecided,New] <vladanian> Ah, is that a bot? <CardinalFang> ubottu, are you a bot? <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? <kenvandine> yup <CardinalFang> kenvandine, are you a bot? <kenvandine> hehe :) <vladanian> sweet, well you got outbotted, bot <CardinalFang> kenvandine, You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, kenvandine, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back.... * kenvandine wants to hear the end of this story <CardinalFang> vladanian, kenvandine is obviously a Replicant. <vladanian> CardinalFang: I've suspected as much. esp when kenvandine is sporting his replicantwear lime green foresight shirt <kenvandine> haha <dobey> funny, he doesn't look like a replicant <CardinalFang> Well, he scored a C on the Turing Test. <dobey> wrong test <dobey> Voight-Kampff would be better for that <rmcbride> definitely Voight-Kampff <vladanian> rmcbride: These two bugs may be related <vladanian> The first time I try, it gives the too short error * rmcbride has been reading the comic adaptation of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and thinks it would have made a better movie than the Blade Runner version <vladanian> The second, third, etc times, it goes to the bad req error <rmcbride> vladanian: I'll leave my comments in that bug then and let it be sorted out on the dev end <vladanian> I changed my option to local dir, then changed it back to Tomboy Web, and got the too short error <vladanian> cool <joshuahoover> kenvandine, rmcbride: should tomboy sync work now with u1? <joshuahoover> (sorry if i'm late to this party) <rmcbride> joshuahoover: I'm told that it should, but testing does not bear that out. vladanian has written a good bug report on the behavior <rmcbride> I get consistent no-go across my test systems <rmcbride> for that <joshuahoover> rmcbride: ok, thanks, i get a "server not responding" error when trying to set it up to hit prod <rmcbride> joshuahoover: that's pretty much what we're seeing. Running tomboy from a term with 'tomboy --debug' shows what is really happening <joshuahoover> rmcbride: ah, good to know! <joshuahoover> rmcbride: out of curiosity, what vm engine do you run for your test environments? <rmcbride> joshuahoover: currently I have vmware server on an old Athlon 64+ duo core <rmcbride> joshuahoover: I'd much prefer to run kvm on my laptop, but it has no VE available thanks to Sony <joshuahoover> rmcbride: ah, got ya...i run virtualbox for mine <joshuahoover> rmcbride: haven't tried kvm, i know i should :) <rmcbride> I'm just very familiar with vmware server, having used it at my former employ. One of these days I'll force myself to try virtualbox again. it was something like herding wolverines last time I tried it a couple years ago <rmcbride> kvm and our really cool image management stuff would be awesome, but the laptop isn't capable, and the other VM box is doing double duty right now. <joshuahoover> rmcbride: "our really cool image management stuff"? <rmcbride> well the laptop is "capable" if I don't mind not actually being able to get any work done because the hypervisor has ground to a halt <rmcbride> joshuahoover: one sec. I forget the package names. Basically some stuff that automates image creation/installation <joshuahoover> rmcbride: ahhh...cool <rmcbride> joshuahoover: for instance ubuntu-virt-server and ubuntu-virt-manager. <rmcbride> err mgmt would be the last bit of the second one <rmcbride> and of course ubuntu-vm-builder <joshuahoover> rmcbride: i remember reading something about it on the wiki a while ago but found myself needing to setup xubuntu, kubuntu and other sorts of environments to try to reproduce some problems users were seeing <rmcbride> joshuahoover: that's mainly what I've been using virtualization for. anythign that's not ubuntu-karmic <rmcbride> I have plenty of physical machines for karmic <rmcbride> though I'll be getting more hardware by the end of the year I hope <joshuahoover> rmcbride: why do i have this vision in my head of you running some sort of mad laboratory of computers in your house? ;) <rmcbride> joshuahoover: I don't yet have any jacobs' ladders or van-de-graf generators running, but I do have a neat lightning display hooked up for just that effect * jblount smiles at the 12 VMs sitting on his laptop <joshuahoover> jblount: and that's just for testing the site with different versions of windows and ie, right? ;) <jblount> joshuahoover: I haven't even gotten there yet, but I have three Windows VMs. Should probably setup a Windows 7 VM sometime soon. <joshuahoover> rmcbride: any experience with testing evolution-couchdb? i'm trying to test evolution couchdb...i remember it working before but now when i go to copy a couple address book contacts (from a fresh evolution setup) to the u1 couchdb contacts i get a crash report with a traceback showing: importerror: cannot import name replication_services <sysdoc> I've ran Win7 in a VM and was surprised at how well it did run (beta of course). <rmcbride> joshuahoover: none whatsoever. I had planned to try that today. I am a thunderbird user, and setting up evolution is something I have not done (mainly because of the complication of setting it up with an email password that I never enter) <rmcbride> joshuahoover: I suppose I could get it just talking to gmail, but I have not done so far <rmcbride> joshuahoover: I would say that the importerror traceback is a significant bug worthy event <joshuahoover> rmcbride: yeah, same here, i use thunderbird too...i'm working on tutorials and trying to find things i can start to doc...not having a ton of luck <dobey> later! weekend time! #ubuntuone 2009-10-03 <mac_v> hi... i was using the ubuntuone ppa since very early > http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/beta/ubuntu , do i still need the ppa or the official karmic repos is sufficient? <WinterWeaver> hey all... just tried to add my computer via web interface, but got this error: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:56649. <WinterWeaver> anyone here? <WinterWeaver> I get this error when trying to add my computer to my U1 acount: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:56649. <WinterWeaver> ah there we go <WinterWeaver> I think I waited too long before adding the computer <six110> hi all. I did a big mistake: today I created a new launchpad account and I deleted my old account, because I had some troubles with ubuntuone's autentication. But I forgot to delete my computer before delete the old account, and now my pc is synchronizing my old files! How can I delete my pc from my old account? <six110> grazie dell'aiuto <FND> hi - I just started playing with desktopcouch.records <FND> however, I get a 401 for get_records - how would I authenticate <FND> (running Karmic beta) <FND> whois ia <FND> oops... #ubuntuone 2009-10-04 <Nomnex> I use rsync to backup my home dir with my USBHD. Option --exclude-from=(text file) > the text files holds all directories I want to exclude from the backup. I want to exclude Ubuntu One dir but no matter I enclose it with quotes "Ubuntu One" or without quote Ubuntu One, the dir is copied on the HD. <Nomnex> Is the Ubuntu One in home dir a physical directory? <Nomnex> feedback anyone? <verterok> Nomnex: yes, it's. try with: Ubuntu\ One <verterok> Nomnex: hi :) <Nomnex> will do that, thanks <Nomnex> verterok: Ubuntu\ One, the directory is still copied <Nomnex> "/home/user/Ubuntu One" is the full path <verterok> Nomnex: did you quoted it? <verterok> Nomnex: e.g: "Ubuntu\ One" <Nomnex> without the quote Ubunt\ One <Nomnex> Do I need the put the quotes and the back slash? <verterok> Nomnex: I don't know much about rsync :) <verterok> Nomnex: I think rsync accepts patterns in the exclude list <Nomnex> yes, it does, no problem with the other folders. Only Ubuntu One <verterok> Nomnex: so you could use something like: Ubunt*.One <verterok> sorry: Ubuntu*One <Nomnex> thanks, let me try once again. <Nomnex> verterok: "Ubutnu\ One" did the trick. Thanks;-) <Nomnex> Ubuntu*One did it too. <Nomnex> see you. <mercutio22> hello there <mercutio22> My files don't seem to ever upload <mercutio22> I see no files in the web interface in spite of one of my computers being loaded with files at the ubuntuone folder <josephnexus1> hello everyone <josephnexus1> does ubuntuone support syncing of evolution? <josephnexus1> and if it doesn't, does anyone know of software that can sync evolution between multiple computers (like desktop <-> laptop) <thefinn93> hello, im having difficulty logging in to Ubuntu one: When I click the "Sign In" button (on launchpad) it loads for a bit then redirects me back the to same page <thefinn93> can anyone here help? <thefinn93> ... #ubuntuone 2009-10-05 * thefinn93 is frustrated with the usually excellent support on IRC <XiXaQ> hello everyone. I thought I'd give Ubuntu One a go. I'm on Karmic. I'm able to connect on the web, but the desktop client doesn't seem to do scottashley@example.org. I'd appreciate some help. <FND> I just signed up for Ubuntu One - but when I select Connect in Nautilus (up-to-date Karmic beta 1 VM), it never finishes (stuck at "connecting") <aquarius_> FND, does the log in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log say anything that looks like an error at the end <FND> aquarius_: I've shut down the VM for now - will check tonight or tomorrow <aquarius_> FND, OK, cheers <FND> btw, I did some fiddling with a demo app <FND> for Desktop Couch <FND> (prompted by the conversation on your blog) <aquarius_> I saw your post to the mailing list, indeed! <FND> not sure whether it's helpful at all, but it was a good start for me <aquarius_> I'd like to talk to you about the details, if you have time :) <FND> I'm on my way out, but I'd be happy to discuss it tomorrow <aquarius_> coolness. Ping me when you're free :) <FND> will do - thanks <FND> aquarius_: would you mind posting your thoughts to the group - that way I can digest it and respond when I'm free <aquarius_> certainly <FND> (don't hold back, this is just a rough first cut) <FND> aquarius: the CouchDB startup issue I mentioned popped up again, on an up-to-date Karmic beta: http://pastebin.com/d28f1623c <aquarius> FND, ah, you might want to delete (a) your desktop-couch.ini and (b) desktop-couch.pid, in ~/.config and ~/.cache. We fixed a problem with those recently <FND> will try that <FND> it seems that worked <aquarius> excellent. We were writing incorrectly-capitalised information back to the file, and thus the stale pidfile never got marked as being stale :) <FND> on the pristine beta, this led to some HDD corruption (reported "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY" during reboot, fsck reported last mount time was in the future) <FND> I haven't rebooted this up-to-date system yet <aquarius> cor <aquarius> you get to talk to someone else about that :) <FND> it might be a general beta bug <FND> unrelated to DC <susscorf1> where can i find a bit more about how ubuntu one deals with data how private is stuff comunicated encrypted what statistics are gathered ... <joshuahoover> susscorf1: here is our privacy policy: https://one.ubuntu.com/privacy/ <JanC> FND: the "last mount time in the future" problem is a known bug AFAIK <FND> great, thanks JanC - saves me the trouble of trying to isolate it <joshuahoover> susscorf1: i think we need to add an faq for the encryption part...short answer: we encrypt the transport of your data via ssl...we do not encrypt it in storage, but you can use local encryption (like karmic's support for encrypted home folders) to ensure your files are encrypted in the cloud <urbanape> morning, folks * jblount waves from the dentists office <jblount> MEETING STARTS <jblount> Good morning everyone, the Ubuntu One Desktop+ developers meeting is here. Say "me" to report your status. <dobey> lies <jblount> me <urbanape> me <teknico> me <dobey> me <teknico> also, MEETING BEGINS ;-) <rodrigo_> me <jblount> teknico: Thanks again! My short term memory must be on the fritz. <CardinalFang> me <jblount> I'll go ahead and get started, we'll let the others jump in as they come 'round <jblount> DONE: Hacking on web front end static redesign <jblount> TODO: Need to finish up static pages, finish changes to /files/ and get the one-branch-to-rule-them-all landed so we can get it rolled out tomorrow <jblount> BLOCKED: I have an appointment in a few minutes for some more dental stuff, will be back around in a couple hours <jblount> urbanape: Your turn! <statik> jblount, please deploy that one-to-rule-them-all on edge as soon as it lands so it can be tested today rather than tomorrow morning <urbanape> DONE: Decorated folders with some CSS if they've got shares already attached or underway. <urbanape> TODO: Get one-branch-to-rule-them-all approved and onto edge today. Hopefully. <urbanape> BLOCK: None <urbanape> teknico, you're up <teknico> DONE: implemented the handling of the "me" record in the contacts web ui (#427807); compiled the travel expenses for the September Millbank sprint; reviewed the status of the contacts web ui work with statik <teknico> TODO: estimating the time needed to complete the contacts web ui with jblount and urbanape; updating the contacts web ui code to the sprint use cases (#440070) <teknico> BLOCK: none <teknico> next: dobey <dobey> âº DONE: Fixed #397749 and #401211 (bookmark issues) <dobey> â¹ TODO: #441039 (prefs 'crash'), Find/fix more bugs. <dobey> â¹ BLCK: None. <dobey> rodrigo_: su hablar por favor <rodrigo_> â¢ DONE: Removed notes/my account links from page when user is not authenticated. Continued couchdb-glib/evolution-couchdb GNOME inclusion discussions. Found missing consumer oauth key in production, tomboy syncing now working. Submitted tomboy fixed package to our beta PPA. Looked at UTF errors when storing notes in CouchDB <rodrigo_> â¢ TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI. API documentation for couchdb-glib. couchdb-glib API changes from Mikkel <rodrigo_> â¢ BLOCKED: no <rodrigo_> (this includes DONE for Friday, I seem to have missed the standup) <rodrigo_> nobody next, right? <rodrigo_> ah, CardinalFang! <CardinalFang> DONE: Helped discover problem in proxying and OAuth. <CardinalFang> TODO: I should take notes about what I'm doing so I remember for these meetings. Make sure couchdb.one.u.c is fully patched. <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: datacenter is new to me. <CardinalFang> Is that all? <teknico> jblount, urbanape, later today we need to talk (as you can see from my TODO) :-) <urbanape> yup <urbanape> jblount, you really at the dentist? <jblount> urbanape: Yeah, hopefully I'll get called back soon. I'll be down 1 tooth in a little bit. <urbanape> eek <jblount> Insurance switching is making for weird appointments. Sorry about the timing. <urbanape> I got the css stuff sorted out. I'm annotating the tr that holds the icon and label. <urbanape> you should be able to get a decent selector to find them and apply a different icon. <jblount> Brilliant. I didn't get as far as I wanted to on Friday with the static stuff, but we should still be able to get this branch landed one edge today. <urbanape> swoot <vds> me (sorry was in a call) <vds> DONE: code review, still couchdb quota integration, discussed about compaction <vds> TODO: finish integration, file a bug for the work I'm doing as there is not one yet <vds> BLOCKED: nope <aquarius> me (was in a call) <aquarius> â DONE: working on DC-to-cloud replication; got net connection back; conference call with many people; discussed compaction with vds, thisfred <aquarius> â TODO: DC-to-cloud replication; fix unknownloginerror; look at oauth-enabling twisted <aquarius> â BLOCKED: <aquarius> â BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 1 <susscorf1> joshuahoover: thx for your anwnsers <joshuahoover> susscorf1: np :) <susscorf1> joshuahoover: but if i understand right, i have a encrypted hard disk, i need to encrypt my files again to make the content invisible to ubuntu one and others ? <jcastro> good morning ubuntuoners <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep <jcastro> who wants to do some ubuntu openweek sessions on something cool <jcastro> aquarius did one for developerweek so he gets to sit one out. The rest of you are fair game! <dobey> what <statik> hi kenvandine, are we on for a desktop integration call today? <statik> (in 52 minutes) <kenvandine> statik, yes, i just sent the agenda <statik> sweet <J_Litewski> Or do I need to install a VM with Ubuntu on it to get my files onto my Windows computer? <statik> hi dobey: is there any work left on this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/434886 i was thinking that we just leave the duplicate launchers in place and no other work be done for karmic, but i don't know what you've planned on with ken. <ubottu> Launchpad bug 434886 in ubuntuone-client "UIF exception: ubuntuone-client icons and
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