#kubuntu-devel 2005-06-01 <Riddell> uniq: say your name <uniq> riddell: ok. <amu> *lol* <uniq> :) <uniq> well.. gnite guys. <uniq> work in 5 hours.. <Riddell> guid nicht <uniq> god natt <uniq> in norwegian. <uniq> :) <amu> boa noite * #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup <JRe> morning <hunger> morning <hunger> Any news about cxx migration of kde in breezy? * hunger heared there were some gcc 4 fixes for KDE from suse. <JRe> cxx mirgration seems to not be so easy as recompiling :) <hunger> JRe: I can imagine. I helped migrate a cxx project to gcc 3:-) <amu> moin2 <JRe> hunger: ;) <hunger> But kdelibs, kdebase, arts and qt seem to be there already? <JRe> yeah that's why i have understood <hunger> Those should be the hardest parts, or so I thought. <JRe> hunger: yeah it should <JRe> ho cool we are on the road to have ivman in debian ;) <JRe> hunger: kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2_20050525-0443-i386-failed.gz <hunger> Oh... <JRe> hunger: but kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2_20050525-0443-powerpc-successful.gz ;) <hunger> JRe: Lets all buy powerpcs now :-) <JRe> hunger: :) :) <JRe> it seems the the 4.3.1 is a way more stable than the 3.4.0 (it's what i read on planetdebian) <hunger> JRe: 4.3.1? <JRe> hunger: 3.4.1 ;) <JRe> dislexic typing <hunger> JRe: How does that help with the gcc 4 migration? <JRe> hunger: it does not help the migration but the user :) <hunger> JRe: Yeah, I know this "too many fingers on keyboad" errors. <JRe> hunger: ;) <hunger> X transistion is progressing... so far 500k were moved out of X11R6 since the fonts were splitt out. * hunger is happy with breezy. <JRe> hunger: so many transition these days ;) qt4 gcc3.4 kde3.4.1 x <hunger> I hope I will manage to stick with breezy for a while once it becomes stable. <hunger> JRe: Yes, the breezygoals are somewhat ambitious. <JRe> hunger: yeah sure * hunger is looking forward to networkmagic. <JRe> but for now the only way i have to test breezy is a debootstrap chroot <hunger> even though I will need to modify it somewhat as it is just too dangerous for my taste. <JRe> hunger: what is network magic ? <hunger> JRe: network autoconfiguration. <JRe> hunger: okay it's kind of cool ;) <hunger> JRe: unfortunately they think that forwarding wlan into the net is a good idea... <hunger> JRe: s/net/ethernet/ <JRe> how <JRe> :( <hunger> JRe: Dunno... the assumption is that someone with both wlan and ethernet wants to provide internet access to others. <hunger> So I guess it well be NATing... <hunger> Anyway, my computer may never do that without me explicitly configuring it. <hunger> My customers will kill me if I my box turns into an AP in their intranet... <JRe> hunger: ;9 <JRe> i have both wlan and ethernet i use wlan to connect to internet (11mb/s) and ethernet to local network(100mb/s) <JRe> Riddell: BTW the way i have put online a screenshot of my little plugged device notification application <JRe> Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kay1.jpg <amu> cooool, <X> do nothing ;) <JRe> amu: what do you mean? <Riddell> JRe: interesting <Riddell> JRe: does it do that exact thing for all usb storage devices? <JRe> Riddell: at this time yes <JRe> Riddell: but it can easily been changed <JRe> Riddell: and if i use ivman instead of usbmount, i'll be able to present dialog for cds, ... <JRe> Riddell: i was also thinking about let the user add some customized actions ;) <Riddell> JRe: what's it written in? <JRe> Riddell: yeah like add a "Launch with myapp" in the list <JRe> Riddell: in fact i develop it mainly to help new user and specially for kubuntu so i am opened to all suggestions <Riddell> which programming language? <JRe> Riddell: C++ / QT (it's a DCOP service) <JRe> Riddell: you call it this way: dcop kay plug notifyPlugged mountpoint device model <Riddell> I'm definatly interested, need to get ivman working first then get it talking to your stuff <Riddell> which will be after 3.4.1 gets sorted <JRe> Riddell: okay i have seen a response to the ivman package request so maybe we will have a package soon, i continue improvments and thinks by my side <JRe> How does the ubuntu autobuilder work? i change the debian changelog file to replace the version by the ubuntu version? <JRe> from the debian source package? <Riddell> JRe: which autobuilder? <Riddell> packages are uploaded to ubuntu same as to debian <Riddell> you just add -2ubuntu1 onto the version instead of adding -2 <JRe> Riddell: it's done manually for all the packages? there is no automatic packaging of the new debian package for example? where can ifound doc to read about that? <Riddell> JRe: there's a debian autosyncer wheejum which pulls in packages from debian and makes a report in bugzilla if there's merges need made with the ubuntu version <Riddell> it's turned off just now due to c++ transition <JRe> Riddell: okay i understand better now, thanks ;) <amu> hmmm whats the problem with amd64 kdelibs ? <amu> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdelibs/4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2/ <Riddell> amu: just build daemons not getting round to it I guess <Riddell> kde/kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2: Dep-Wait by buildd+crested [optional:out-of-date] <Riddell> Dependencies: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.4) * amu redefines his question, what the problem with amd64, the buildd for it, are down, busy? <Riddell> and qt isn't built <Riddell> libs/qt-x11-free_3:3.3.4-1ubuntu3: Dep-Wait by buildd+crested [optional:out-of-date] <Riddell> Dependencies: libmysqlclient-dev <JRe> ;) <JRe> jackass.ubuntu.com ;) ;) ;) <lamont> Riddell: ah ha! <lamont> have I mentioned that I hate build-deps on virtual packages>? <Riddell> lamont: I suspect I've heard it in passing <Riddell> lamont: I'll upload a new qt shall I with build-dep only on mysql 12 <lamont> Riddell: well, I cleared it again <lamont> so you don't _need_ to do it <lamont> but if the next upload quit using virtual packages, that'd make my life happier... <Riddell> ok <doko> Riddell, please keep my changes to the build deps ... ;) <Riddell> doko: where havn't I? <doko> sorry, then it was amu ... ;) <Riddell> doko: which package? <doko> qt <uniq> hello. <JRe> lo uniq <uniq> hi jre. <uniq> amu: for the ipod slave.. would a good packagename be kio-ipodslave ? <uniq> or just kio-ipod ? <uniq> jre: what do you like best? <JRe> kio-ipodslave <Riddell> uniq: kio-ipod seems better <JRe> ;) <uniq> heh.. ok :) <uniq> I like kio-ipod my self. <JRe> damn i am the only man standing for ipodslave ;) <amu> kpod ? <JRe> slavepod? <amu> that's the project name ... slave is kind of discrimiating :) <JRe> ;) ;) ;) <hunger> amu: Why are you agitating against a age old profession? ;-) <hunger> amu: kpod sounds a lot like "kaputt" (german for broken). <amu> hunger: you can discuss with mark about it ;) <JRe> hum i have discover a kind-of-cool application that may interests kubuntu users: KToon (to make some animation) <JRe> http://ktoon.toonka.com/ <JRe> should we package? <Riddell> JRe: sure, looks cool <JRe> Riddell: okay i'll take care of that <JRe> if anyone compile and test kftpgrabber, can he tell me if when transfering, the analyzer does work? <uniq> amu: ready to take a look at the kio-ipod package? and test it? <JRe> uniq: need to have a ipod to test it ;) ? <uniq> yes. <uniq> ipod:/ :) <JRe> uniq: sorry the only thing i have is an usb stick ;) <uniq> yes.. me to. <uniq> or.. two usb-disks and one stick. <uniq> and a camera. <uniq> .. mouse+keyboard. <uniq> no ipod yet. <JRe> uniq: i guess you have a screen <uniq> not usb :) <JRe> uniq: ;) <amu> uniq: sure .. <JRe> uniq: and you're packaging kio-ipod for the rich people ;) <JRe> uniq: where is your repo? <uniq> amu: i'll have to one small thing first. <uniq> jre: frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ <JRe> uniq: what is gamin? <uniq> jre: fam replacement (as in file alternation monitor) <uniq> ps ax|grep gam <uniq> amu: can you use amd64 debs? <JRe> uniq: okay i see it, i will take a look in /usr/share/doc <uniq> it's not very informative. <uniq> http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ <uniq> Maybe i could commit that gamin package to breezy.. it's a simple upgrade. <amu> uniq: amd64 thats a small atm ... i386 prefered <uniq> k. <amu> uniq: or the source, would be better <uniq> ok.. source it is. <uniq> http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kio-ipod/ <JRe> uniq: thanx for the links i understand well now ;) <uniq> you're welcome :) <uniq> i'm diving back into kdar. <uniq> oh.. it's dinner time.. <uniq> bbl guys. <JRe> good appetite 1 <Riddell> JRe: you probably know this but the English language equivalent of "bon appetit" isn't "good appetite", it's "bon appetite" :) <JRe> Riddell: i was not aware! <JRe> Riddell: thanks :) <JRe> so bon appetite! <Riddell> he he <JRe> i speak too many languages so i mix each other and say very bad things :( <Riddell> we have an impressive 28 people on kubuntu-bugs, I wonder why they're all so interested in our bugzilla reports <uniq> hehe :) <KaiL> because normaly 27 of them can't reproduce the bug? :) <JRe> ;) ;) ;) <Riddell> KaiL: then they would CC themselves on the report on bugzilla <Riddell> but subscribing to all kubuntu reports, that's dedication for you <KaiL> btw, how to subscribe to all? :) <Riddell> KaiL: all kubuntu bugzilla reports? join kubuntu-bugs on lists.ubuntu.com <JRe> I gonna suscribe also ;) <Riddell> cool :) <KaiL> ...now you have 29 <JRe> ;) <uniq> now, if i subscribe one second time.. we'll have 30 :) <JRe> okay suscribed! <uniq> we got 30 :) <JRe> the hottest mailing list ever ;) <JRe> i sucribed to breezy-changes too so i will no longer be out of date ;) ! <uniq> amu: tell me what you think of the new kio-ipod packages.. please http:/frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kio-ipod - thanks :) <amu> the name is already wrong <uniq> source package name? <uniq> or package name? <uniq> source tarball should have the ipodslave name? <amu> dpkg-source: warning: source directory `./ipodslave-0.6.3' is not <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion> `kio-ipod-0.6.3' <amu> ipodslave-0.6.3.tgz is the original upstream name : it becomes ipodslave_0.6.3.orig.tar.gz and your deb is named ipodslave_0.6.3-0ubuntu1_arch.deb <uniq> ko. <amu> if you still want name it kio-ipod, you need a virtual package *ducks* <uniq> understand. <amu> ... and you will be lamonts best friend :) <uniq> I won't bother.. i'll just name it ipodslave. <uniq> hehe.. i've heard he loves those virtual packages :) <amu> no prob, i thought before you where joking ;) <amu> just ping me, i can make a final review. <uniq> great :) <uniq> kdar is a bitch btw. <amu> uniq: next part is, a package for debian <uniq> yes :) <amu> if you package something usefull, we can upload it also to debian <uniq> great :) <amu> s/something/is something/ <uniq> libdar in ubuntu doesn't seem to support blowfish.. <uniq> atleast the cpp headers doesn't.. <uniq> amu: http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ipodslave/ <uniq> does it actually work with your ipod? :) <amu> no, i'm not sure, what's wrong, the pathname are cutted, and i've no mp3 support for my desktop :) <uniq> heh.. ok. <uniq> .. /usr/include/kde/kswap.h is missing from kdelibs4-dev (3.4.1-0ubuntu2). Is that intentional? <Riddell> uniq: kntlminclude_HEADERS = kntlm.h <Riddell> it's not in the Makefile.am to be installed <Riddell> is it part of the public API? <uniq> i'll chekc. <uniq> check. <Riddell> uniq: how did you notice? <uniq> compiling ipodslave in breezy chroot. <Riddell> hmm <Riddell> "don't install kswap.h, it depends on config.h and really shouldn't be part of KDE API." <Riddell> uniq: you'll need to take a copy of kswap.h and change #include <kswap.h to #include "kswap.h" <Riddell> uniq: and notify the author <uniq> ok then. <Riddell> thanks for testing breezy :) <uniq> do you have a url for refference? <uniq> -f in reference :) <uniq> nvermind.. found a mailinglist entry. <Riddell> svn log for kdelibs/kio/misc/kntlm/ <Riddell> svn log for kdelibs/kio/misc/kntlm/kswap.h <uniq> ok. thanks. <uniq> mail sendt.. and ipodslave compiled :) <cartel_> arrgh <cartel_> Riddell: new bug <cartel_> :( <uniq> #11193 ? <cartel_> apt-get install eric3 <cartel_> eric <cartel_> TypeError: argument 1 of QSizePolicy() has an invalid type <cartel_> Segmentation fault <uniq> breezy or hoary = <uniq> =/? <cartel_> hoary universe <cartel_> apparently bugged by python2.4-qt3 <cartel_> ill check if latest official is bugged <cartel_> latest is 2 majors incremented from the ver in universe <cartel_> ok, i checked out the latest sid package and sed'd it for python2.3/python2.4, works fine <cartel_> *cooks up bug report* #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-02 <cartel_> gah <cartel_> etf <cartel_> wtf <cartel_> malone sux <uniq> cartel_: i can confirm the bug for breezy. <uniq> same problem. <cartel_> i dont really want to lose too much time by upgrading to breezy <cartel_> yet <uniq> don't.. i wouldn't recommend it. <uniq> i would rather recommend not to upgrade. <cartel_> i can throw up a xen instance to test it <cartel_> if required <uniq> well.. i'll call it a day.. <uniq> gnite. <cartel_> later uniq. <cartel_> eric >>>> kdevelop <JRe> ningmor <JRe> Riddell: you think it's possible for my little app to be hosted on a kde server? <Riddell> JRe: which app? <JRe> Riddell: plugged device notificator <Riddell> JRe: what sort of hosting are you looking for? <JRe> Riddell: svn + web <Riddell> JRe: do you know how to set up an svn server? <JRe> i never did it but i have the doc <JRe> ;) <JRe> Riddell: i'm asking that because i saw few time ago that kde was hosting kde related project <Riddell> JRe: generally kde only host projects from people they know, and only give our accounts to people who have already sent patches etc <JRe> okay <Riddell> so for something like this I suspect it's either sourceforge or me setting up subversion on my server <JRe> i can use sourceforge, altough i dislike cvs, and i will send patch to kde ;) <JRe> patch both related to kubuntu and kde (two thing in one shot!) <Riddell> what's the patch? <JRe> Riddell: i don't, i will do a bunch of bug hunting on the trackers ;) <JRe> Riddell: trying to find one that i can fix :) <Riddell> he he :) <hunger> A new kdepim is uploaded! * hunger runs to check whether he can now upgrade kde without loosing too many apps. <hunger> Gna.org offers svn in a sourceforge like system. <KaiL> hmm, new kernel? 2.6.12-rc5? <KaiL> hunger: already updated? <hunger> KaiL: Nope... I need kpdf at the moment and that will get uninstalled if I updated. <KaiL> I'd miss amarok <hunger> KaiL: I don't mind that one. <hunger> KaiL: I do not listen to music anyway. <KaiL> hmm <KaiL> artsd is a bit crashy <JRe> ,9 <JRe> ;) <KaiL> how do I disable that f*cking thing? <JRe> KaiL: what? <KaiL> artsd <KaiL> mv /usr/bin/artsd /usr/bin/artsd.shutup << helps :)) <JRe> ;) ;) ;) <KaiL> juk crashes on startup :( <KaiL> konqueror too btw <JRe> oula breezy? <KaiL> yes <JRe> evrything just broke today? <KaiL> the big kde update... <JRe> okay <JRe> 3.4.1? <KaiL> JRe: the broken parts are still 3.4.0 <JRe> okay <KaiL> Riddell: does kdebase 3.4.1 work better than 3.4.0? <KaiL> maybe is even usable? :) <Riddell> new kdegraphics uploaded, new kdebase uploaded, maybe it'll all work in a few hours :) <KaiL> arts? :) <Riddell> arts is already 1.4.1 <JRe> :) <KaiL> 1.4.1pre, or? <Riddell> pre just means KDE hasn't released it yet so we can't call it final <JRe> normal <KaiL> does it workn fo you? <KaiL> hmm, apt-get update gets silly <JRe> hum bug hunting in the kubuntu bugs is not so easy ;) <KaiL> why? <JRe> because there is many bugs hard to fix <JRe> ;) <KaiL> problem are all the "xyz won't install because of abc" bugs in breezy, which are currently useless... <JRe> ;) <JRe> how there is a junior job section in the kde bug tracker <JRe> ;) <JRe> the most hated bugs! <Riddell> fixing Umbrello beasties gives you extra points <JRe> ;) <hunger> JRe: gna.org offers svn repositories in a sourceforge like package. FWIW... <JRe> hunger: how cool! next time i check gna it was cvs <JRe> s/next/last <JRe> Riddell: okay i found my bug ;) <Riddell> JRe: what's that? <JRe> Riddell: 67719 (will surely be tagged as wishlist) <Riddell> yay! <JRe> Riddell: wow the umbrello code is very clean :) <Riddell> you probably won't say that after working with it for 3 years <JRe> when umbrello development really started? <doko> Riddelllll!! <doko> kcontrol depends on xlibmesa-glu or libglu1 <doko> Riddell: ^^^ <doko> nasty <JRe> ;) <doko> Riddell, amu: it's strange not to see a kdebase4-lib package, and you always have to install all the crappy applications on the buildd ... <uniq> yay.. got my ibook :) <Riddell> doko: which should it depend on? <doko> libglu1-xorg | libglu1 <JRe> Riddell: okay i'm near to have killed your bugs ;) <JRe> s/bugs/wishlist bug/ <JRe> i just wonder why setItalic set also the text in bold :( <JRe> Riddell: whish kill where do i send the patch ? <Riddell> JRe: douglassanchez@example.org <JRe> Riddell: don't forget my extra point ;) ;) ;) <JRe> Riddell: BTW the way i don't if creating abstract use case is authorized in uml ;) <Riddell> I think it is <Riddell> new kdebase seems to have doko's suggested libglu changes <doko> Riddell, ok <Riddell> but not xscreensaver-gl for kdeartwork <JRe> Riddell: btw you have made a uml diagram of umbrello ;) ? <Riddell> http://uml.sourceforge.net/developers/umbrello-class-diagram.png <Riddell> I had a more extensive one but it got out of date <Riddell> if you make a documentation generator for Umbrello you get cookies <JRe> :) <Riddell> kubuntu junior job https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 <KaiL_> quite problematic, as both need that files <Riddell> you probably need to patch knemo to use a different name <Riddell> or install it in /usr/share/apps/knemo/icons <uniq> amu: how do you set the 'modifier key' to make the mouse button act as second mousebutton in kde? <uniq> on the ibook. <doko> Riddell, kdebase-dev is still uninstallable on i386, see http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/breezy_probs.html Could you check in a clean chroot? <Riddell> doko: that page only mentions 3.4.0-0ubuntu21, the latest upload of kdebase is 3.4.1-0ubuntu0pre3 <doko> hmm, yes, strange <KaiL_> grr, kdegraphics successfull build 14:30 - not in archives <KaiL_> grr, kdebase successfull build 15:30 - not in archives <Riddell> elmo: any idea why kdebase et al arn't getting into archives on i386? <hunger> Wow, the 3.4.1 debs are starting to show up. * hunger wonders where kdebase and kdegraphics is. <Riddell> hunger: we are wondering the same thing :) <hunger> Riddell: Who can help? elmo? <zulu> anyone had this problem when synaptic updates <zulu> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.6b7820000005ap-1363.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-03 <KaiL_> hat dein ISP 5stunden-reconnect? :) <KaiL_> hmm, kdeutils doesn't even try to build on i386? <KaiL_> kdebase and kdegraphics are still stalled ;) <hunger> KaiL_: meiner? Noe, ich hab' hier lausigen WLAN Empfang. <JRe> the only thing i've understood is that you're talking about wifi ;) <hunger> JRe: I think KaiL_ asked me whether my isp did an hourly reconnect. I replied that my Wifi connection is just lousy. <JRe> hunger: okay ;) mine often disconnect too <hunger> JRe: I get max. 30k to my own server over it. * hunger waits for kdegraphics and kdebase to materialise so that he can finally update kde. <JRe> amu: the person who made the itp for kftpgrabber did not respond for more than a week, to my question (are you still working on the packages?) <JRe> amu: may i give the address of my packages? <amu> JRe: bug no? <JRe> amu: which bug? <amu> you told me :"the person who made the itp for kftpgrabber did not.." <JRe> amu: i wonder what to do if you ask a person who has made an ITP long time ago for a soft and did not made any packages, and does not answer to questions about current state? <amu> JRe: just write to the bug and cc: to the person and into debian-devel, wht did you do till now, and you want maintain this package. probably he's atm at holiday and not reachable, that could be possible. <hunger> Still no kdebase/kdegraphics:-( <Riddell> hunger: they'll have new packages in them that elmo needs to approve <JRe> amu: yeah you're right, i'll wait two weeks more <hunger> Riddell: Ah, thanks for the information! * hunger sighs. <hunger> Why is GNU code always so chaotic? <JRe> ;) ;) ;) <hunger> No docs, lots of 3letter dirs/subdirs, all kinds of independent libs come bundled, files several thousand lines long each, no comments, tab/spaces used all over the place, thousands of warnings when building, ... DEPRESSING! <hunger> Oh... and of course the test suite is provided but does not even start. <JRe> i see what you mean * #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup <JRe> hunger: what are you coding? <JRe> or packaging? <KaiL|Sheep> kdebase 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0pre3 :) <Riddell> gosh <KaiL|Sheep> kdegraphics too ;) <KaiL|Sheep> only missing gwenview <Riddell> and if I'm not mistaken kdelibs -ubuntu3.2 is finaly in hoary <KaiL|Sheep> apt-cache sais so <uniq> riddell: i'm compiling the douglassanchez@example.org for powerpc too.. if you're interested. <Riddell> uniq: kdelibs and knetworkconf shouldn't be needed any more <Riddell> just kaffeine <uniq> ok. <uniq> good.. kaffine is the one i'm compiling now. <Riddell> groovy <Riddell> by the way, kubuntu junior job https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 <Riddell> just for those who missed it <uniq> so knemo needs love.. <Riddell> icon rename and patch to code somewhere <uniq> i'll take a douglassanchez@example.org. <Riddell> actually it might be easier to do knetworkconf since that's in KDE's SVN and I could put the change upstream <uniq> ok. <uniq> then we'll do kdenetworkconf. <uniq> knetworkconf actually. <motaboy> Riddell: on kdepim ML Adriaan de Groot <douglassanchez@example.org> posted a patch for kpilot suggesting to apply it to the kde 3.4.1 release that fix some critical bugs. I didn't see it on kde-packagers. <Riddell> motaboy: a copy has just arrived in my inbox * Riddell wonders how it got there <Riddell> List-Id: packagers of binary packages <kde-packager <Riddell> guess he BCCed kde-packager <Riddell> well that gives me something to do while I wait for kdebindings to compile it's 10 Megabyte files <doko> anyone to upload kde-i18n soon? <Riddell> doko: I'm hoping on today <Riddell> doko: in a hurry for it? <Riddell> the whole structure of kde-i18n has changed <doko> no <KaiL> Riddell: a new kdenetwork soon? :)) <Riddell> KaiL: dunno, amu locked that one <uniq> amu: ping? <uniq> riddell: fixed knetworkconf uploading. no problem installing knemo with this version installed. (could you verify?) <uniq> http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/ <Riddell> uniq: nasty debdiff to knetworkconf ubuntu4 with that <uniq> hmm.. <Riddell> and there's no debian/patches <uniq> i'll change it. <Riddell> :) <uniq> should the patch be for the diffed version or the original source? <uniq> nevermind.. it's obvious :) <Riddell> for the origional <Riddell> then you need something in debian/rules to apply the patches in debian/patches <Riddell> it's a cdbs package so just copy the cdbs patch line from any kde package <Riddell> and it'll do that patch magic <uniq> working on it :) <uniq> cdbs is great. <uniq> riddell: new package, could you take a look? - http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/ <Riddell> uniq: looks nice <Riddell> debdiff is still horrible, I wonder why <Riddell> and the way that thing installs it's icons is pretty messy generaly <uniq> hum. the only change is the patch and the changelog entry. <Riddell> yeah, weird. shall I upload to breezy? <uniq> it's the newest version? <uniq> sure. <uniq> could maybe checkout the latest svn and make a package.. <Riddell> let me send back this fix first :) <uniq> sure :) <uniq> i'll have to make a breezy chroot. <uniq> riddell: seen the lastest comment from mdz, on the knetworkconf issue? <Riddell> well it doesn't matter where it's fixed, so long as one of them does it <uniq> agree.d <uniq> riddell: are you uploading to hoary-updates too? <Riddell> uniq: that's it on kubuntu hoary-updates now <uniq> nice. <uniq> what about ubuntu hoary-updates? <Riddell> they won't take it since the issue is a universe one <uniq> ok. <Riddell> hmm, kde cvs doesn't have those icons mentioned in the Makefile.am <uniq> so i'll just leave the bug as assigned, or maybe mark it as universe then? <Riddell> I would mark is as fixed <uniq> fixed in breezy or something? <Riddell> yes <uniq> done. <uniq> maybe we sould put some info about hoary-updates on the webpage? <uniq> if small fixes like this one will be available from there.. <uniq> in the future. <Riddell> I'm nervous to do that because I'm not sure how the ubuntu developers would feel about us having our own repository <uniq> ugh.. i mentioned the deb line in the comment to the bug. <uniq> stupid of me. <Riddell> well I don't expect to keep it top secret :) <Riddell> thanks for your help by the way <uniq> happy to be helpful.. and thanks for having me make that patch :) <uniq> i learned the cdbs patchsystem ;) <Riddell> KubuntuIbook :) <uniq> :) <uniq> sharing info while i'm doing my setup.. else i'll just forget how i did it :) #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-04 <hunger_> Yahoo! As soon as I have all the updates downloaded all the bugs will have vanished! kde 3.4.1 is in the archives:-) <hunger_> Thanks guys for providing all the debs. <uniq> is breezy kde-safe yet? <hunger_> uniq: I doubt that breezy is safe;-) <uniq> kde-safe as in.. x and kdebase is installable? <uniq> and starts. <hunger> uniq: I am trying that right now:-) <uniq> great. <uniq> think i'll wait with the upgrade on this machine. <hunger> uniq: apt-get install kdebase started and downloads lots of stuff, so the dependencies seem to be ok. <uniq> great. <uniq> i'm apt-get upgrading the other pc here.. <uniq> with breezy. <uniq> dist-upgrade removes some vital packages (to me) yet. <hunger> kubuntu-desktop is not yet installable. <uniq> yet/still. <hunger> amarok? <uniq> among others. <KaiL> there's still enough missing: kdenetwork-stuff, amarok, k3b, kaffeine, konserve, gwenview, kynaptic <uniq> you can simply recompile them yourself.. though. * hunger doubt that this is as simple as that. <uniq> it is for most packages. <hunger> uniq: I helped to migrate a c++ project from gcc 2.95 to 3... I am not keen on repeating the experience (even though the current transistion is not that bad). <uniq> hehe.. understand :) <hunger> uniq: and of course I do not need yet another project to sidetrack me... <uniq> heh.. well.. if you need ex. k3b.. it's probably easier to compile it yourself.. than downgrading everything else :) * hunger managed to find a logical connection that brought him from writing a perl script for his boss to hacking on monotone (via ruby, synopsis, code validation and gdb). <hunger> ... did not yet find the time to get started on that damn perl thingy. <uniq> bash rocks :) <hunger> uniq: zsh rocks even more;-) <uniq> i know.. i use zsh as my default shell.. <uniq> but bash for scripts. <hunger> uniq: Nah... that is no fun... besides: you should aim for POSIX shells, not bash. <uniq> bash rocks. <uniq> don't think i'll need a posix shell in the nearest future. <hunger> uniq: I keep ending up on strange mashines with strange shells;-) <uniq> heh.. luckily i don't have that problem :) <uniq> maybe i'll get it.. if i ever install macosx on this machine. <hunger> Damn KDE... keeps forgetting my keybindings:-( <KaiL> hunger: can you at least get them back? <hunger> KaiL: They come and go... <KaiL> hunger: here the F-Keys are dead :( <KaiL> and some others too <KaiL> ...but only for these bindings, F1=help still works <KaiL> seams to be an Xorg problem.... <uniq> riddell: #10035 should be fixed in hoary-updates now, right? <KaiL> ...since centuries ;) <Riddell> uniq: certainly should <Riddell> KaiL: the fix for malitious removing of /etc/kderc only came through today <KaiL> and has an own bug # <KaiL> so we can call 10035 fixed with one of the knetworkconf updates <Riddell> I think I closed another bugzilla entry for that <Riddell> I should get these more organised :) <uniq> riddell: i closed this one. <Riddell> uniq: thanks <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11082 << are there localisations for amarok somewhere on the world? <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10877 should we call this fixed, or should dbus-qt-1 dependency realy reduced to the indirect one? <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10805 this bug remembers me of Mozilla, there are all reports like this <Riddell> KaiL: not sure what's up with the amarok locales, someone needs to investigate that <Riddell> KaiL: 10877 is still waiting on a kubuntu-desktop update <Riddell> 10805 doesn't look kubuntu specific <Riddell> but he seems to just be seeing updatedb happening <Riddell> does knemo work for people? <Riddell> it doesn't do very much for me even when I add a network interface to it <uniq> works for me. <uniq> adds a little icon in the systray.. like in windows. <Riddell> but the little icon doesn't do anything <uniq> lets me add commands to the rightclick menu on the icon. and such. <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10353 can somebody reproduce that? <uniq> i've added enable and disable. <uniq> that's all. <Riddell> uniq: how do you add commands? <Riddell> KaiL: I've heard various complaints about kuser crashing <uniq> riddell: right-click - configure - choose your interface - context menu <uniq> 'add new entry' on the right side of the box. <Riddell> ah, you have to turn the traffic plotter on <Riddell> don't see why it can't detect which interfaces you have <Riddell> you have turn on the tool tips as well, silly <Riddell> and it doesn't flash when there's traffic <uniq> mine flashes when it's traffic. <uniq> the two monitors icon. <Riddell> KaiL: yep, kuser crashes * Riddell confirms <uniq> kail: I can reproduce the kuser crash too. <KaiL> on hoary? doesn't do in breezy... <Riddell> ah, a quick fix then :) <uniq> i'm on hoary @ ppc.. i can check on breezy @ amd64 too. <Riddell> uniq: I found the context menu bit, but how do I set the entries to do something? <uniq> kuser isn't very enterprise.. it's actually very broken. <uniq> riddell: click on the command field. <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9900 I guess, xmms-kde is universe? :) <uniq> it's har to find the correct spot :) <Riddell> ah <Riddell> yes, this thing could do with some improvements in user interface and default settings <uniq> indeed. <Riddell> KaiL: it is <Riddell> and there are other media control panel applets <uniq> kuser is dangerous.. <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9837 something for the settings :) <Riddell> I want to replace kuser with guideance <uniq> tried to add a user to another group.. and kuser changed all other settings for the user.. uid set to 0, shell set to nothing, home gone etc. <Riddell> KaiL: I'm open to persuation on that one <uniq> now, if i try to remove this user with uid 0.. root will dissapear. <Riddell> uniq: the fact that it uses icons from Windows suggests something to me <uniq> hehe :) * uniq is taking a look at the amarok package. <Riddell> chances are it just need syncing with debian <KaiL> hmm, we are producing a bit bugzilla spam? :) <KaiL> uniq: douglassanchez@example.org is you? <uniq> riddell: you're right.. <uniq> kail: yes. <uniq> riddell: will things in main get synced from debian automatically? <uniq> or is that just for universe-stuff? <Riddell> uniq: things that don't have -ubuntu in the version will <uniq> amarok have ubuntu in the version <uniq> I can make a package of 1.2.4.. <Riddell> so it'll have to be done manually <uniq> but now.. sleep. <Riddell> please do <uniq> gnite. <Riddell> sleep tight <Riddell> I can't work out how to close a beastie in malone <KaiL> his WLAN greets :) <hunger> Everything installed fine... all keybindings are broken though. <hunger> No Function keys, arrows, nothing:-( <hunger> ksysguard no longer displays cpu freq. <hunger> Lots of apps are still missing (ok, I knew that before the upgrade). <hunger> The rest seems fine. <KaiL> can you use juk? <KaiL> or does it crash on start? <hunger> Not installed. <KaiL> <hunger> ksysguard no longer displays cpu freq. << wfm <KaiL> what about artsd? <hunger> KaiL: juk crashes on start. <hunger> artsd crashes... <KaiL> and restarts and crashes and restarts and crashes... every 10sec or so ;:) <hunger> ... often .... <KaiL> I renamed the binary to get it to shut up at least :) <hunger> killall -9 knotify did the trick for me. <hunger> OK, basically kde 3.4.1 is unusable:-( <hunger> KaiL: So much for the bug fixing in that release;-) <KaiL> uhm, that's more gcc4 <hunger> Of course this is probably a gcc 4 issue... <hunger> Good night... <KaiL> and the keys got killed by xorg, they where also missing before <KaiL> is media:/ back at work? <hunger> KaiL I had all my keys working on and of before. <KaiL> hmm <KaiL> what didn't you update before? :) <hunger> KaiL: No icon pops up for my usb stick. <KaiL> :( <KaiL> ...also not fixed... <KaiL> but afaik that's still not 3.4.1 final <KaiL> Riddell: or? <Riddell> what's the question? <KaiL> the packages in breezy are still not 3.4.1 final? <hunger> KaiL: the usb stick is not douglassanchez@example.org. <Riddell> they are made with the final 3.4.1 sources <KaiL> uh :( <KaiL> so dbus not fixed... <Riddell> dbus was a quick backport I did from head, I'll need to take a closer look at that <Riddell> arts crashes may be due to it being compiled with visibility=hidden <KaiL> could you try without? <KaiL> it's a "bit" annoying <Riddell> yes but it's 2 in the morning and I'm about to go to sleep <KaiL> hunger: hmm, cdrom looks quite good <hunger> KaiL: media://cdrom works for me. <KaiL> ...or not... <Riddell> http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ADMIN.diff patch for arts if you want to compile it yourself <Riddell> apply then `make -f admin/Makefile.common dist` <hunger> Good night... need some sleep. <Riddell> then `debuild` * KaiL needs sleep too :p <Riddell> lets all sleep! <hunger> Wallets work again (for now). <Riddell> how pessimistic :) <zyga> hello <zyga> http://pastebin.com/291192 <zyga> multiple packages contain one file <zyga> I thought someone might be interested <KaiL> knetworkconf updates some days ago to fix this <Riddell> zyga: yep, fix is in ubunut hoary-updates <zyga> Riddell: thanks <zyga> Riddell: just curious, why not in hoary? (I dodn't have hoary-updats in sources.list) <Riddell> zyga: because hoary is done and released, it doesn't change, hoary-updates has the updates <Riddell> and hoary-security makes you safe <zyga> Riddell: I see, did I miss some package that added hoary-updates to sources.list or should this be done manually? <uniq> zyga: the fix is in kubuntu hoary-updates <uniq> Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main <zyga> uniq: how is kubunutu.org repository different from ubuntu.com's? <uniq> ubuntu has a very strict policy for fixes to a released distribution. <uniq> kubuntu.org is just a "unofficial" workarounds repo.. (could use a more unofficial domainname though).. <Riddell> semi-official :) <elmo> uh <elmo> that's a deceptively official URL <elmo> and AFAIK kubuntu's update policy should match ubuntu's? <uniq> dinner.. bbl. <uniq> amu: are you using java on your ibook? - i can't find any useable JRE.. <amu> uniq: no <KaiL_> amu: kdenetwork? :)) <amu> KaiL_: <parse_error> <KaiL_> I asked Riddell about that package yesterday (as it's more or less the last not with gcc4), he said, you had locked the package... <uniq> amu: ok.. thanks anyway :) <uniq> riddell: a new knetworkconf with the much more clean diff is at http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/ -> breezy. <uniq> amarok doesn't build even with the diffs from cvs. #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-05 <amu> uniq: your ibook goes into sleep and awacke back? <uniq> yes. <amu> ah you found the bug :) <uniq> i added a KubuntuIbook page to my wiki :) <uniq> simple and not very informative for others. but it is something. <amu> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7464 D <uniq> gnite. <Riddell> amu: what happened to my account on a.d.n? <Riddell> uniq: fancy compiling kde 3.4.1 on ppc or amd64? <Riddell> hello motaboy <motaboy> Hi Riddell <Riddell> motaboy: koffice release candidate on tuesday, do you think you can make packages? <motaboy> Riddell: Yeah. I don't know it there're already packages made by debian devs somewhere. where can I search for? <Riddell> motaboy: koffice is ben burton who uses the debian/ directory in KDE's repository <Riddell> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/koffice/debian/ last commit two weeks ago <Riddell> and that was just pulling in stuff from his 1.3 packages <Riddell> so make sure every from there is in the kubuntu packages but otherwise that's about all we can steal <motaboy> Riddell: ok. But I don't see the rc packages on the ktown developers. <Riddell> no, tag on tuesday <Riddell> wwo, not much time frame, tag on tuesday, announce thursday <motaboy> Riddell: ok so have I to wait tueasdy for starting building? <Riddell> yeah, guess so <Riddell> although you could check out head if you want to start sooner, I doubt it'll change much <motaboy> Riddell: ok. <Riddell> and don't compile kexi I guess <Riddell> it'll still go into main, we want karbon and krita <motaboy> Riddell: I'll remove kexi <Riddell> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main <Riddell> KDE 3.4.1 for hoary <Riddell> anyone tested the kubuntu hoary packages? #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-06 <JRe> morning <JRe> Should be very interrresting: http://www.KDE-Apps.org/content/show.php?content=24616 <opi> yesterday I noticed a new feature of Konqueror <opi> my server went down, and so did my proxy <opi> Firefox would complain about not being able to connect to the Squid server <opi> and Konqueror just went for direct connection <opi> but it was slow (I guess it's because it tried to use proxy) <opi> maybe some sort of pop-up window or notice should be helpful" <opi> s/"/? <opi> it's nice that I can still use Internet but I've been cursing the speed for a half day ;) <froud> hi, is there a release schedule for Kubuntu up somewhere? <Riddell> froud: nope, not even a release schedule for ubuntu yet as far as I know <froud> http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule <Riddell> ah hah :) <Riddell> well it'll be the same as ubuntu unless KDE 3.5 happens to make an appearance at some point shortly before or after <Riddell> in which case we'd have to consider what the best thing to do is <froud> OK, so I will gauge around ubuntu and stay tuned on KDE 3.5 <froud> thanks <Riddell> froud: how's the documentation? <Riddell> anything I should be reading to comment on? <froud> We have a good kwick guide in works and an installation guide <froud> we would like to bring http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#pkglistn into svn <froud> Riddell: but this is a large doc <froud> I need authors permission and about one week <Riddell> cool <Riddell> give me a poke when you want me to read/comment/help <froud> sure, you are also welcome to checkout our svn and do you thang :-) * froud off to feast <doko> Riddell: any estimate for kde-i18n? <Riddell> doko: working on it now <Riddell> doko: is it significant at all? <doko> Riddell, maybe not for native speakers ;-P <Riddell> doko: the kde-i18n structure has changed from upstream so it's all separate sources tars, presumably that means it'll get stuck in NEW <doko> Riddell, that's a good change <Riddell> certainly is <KaiL> .o0(we should close bugs about dependencies in breezy unread with INVALID.....) <Riddell> KaiL: I would keep them open until they really are fixed, othewise people think we don't care about their problems <KaiL> or that <KaiL> dato: reporting bugs here might be faster ;) <dato> dato: hmm? <KaiL> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11346 <KaiL> I guess, chances are good, that somebody in here can fix it ;) <dato> KaiL: I think you're addressing the wrong person <KaiL> damn autocomplete - should be doko ;) <Riddell> KaiL: doko and dato very different <Riddell> but both very cool people <KaiL> Riddell: d<tab> ;) <doko> KaiL, somebody has to reupload the sources, but maybe the kubuntu people should file a bug report in Debian <doko> amu, Riddell: ^^^ <doko> Riddell, amu: somebody of could fix amarok, which FTBFS <doko> s/of/of you/ <Riddell> doko: no it'll be my fault, it was my first ever debian package and I must have assumed that since there is no upstream it shouldn't have a .orig <KaiL> you are trying to get kynaptic into debian? <doko> Riddell, just upload the next version correctly <Riddell> KaiL: amu sent it to them and the ftpmaster complained about a few things which I should sort <Riddell> doko: sure <KaiL> could you add a "quit" menu item before? :) <doko> Riddell, amu: k3b FTBFS as well <KaiL> "FTBFS"? <Riddell> KaiL: silly acronym for fail to build from source <Riddell> I've almost given in to using the acronym <KaiL> ah <allee> Riddell: do you expect kynaptics to be further developed to be really useful. I thought plan was to replace it with kapture? <KaiL> without s ;) <allee> KaiL: ye <Riddell> allee: Kapture is the hope yes <allee> Riddell: someone working on kapture (again)? <Riddell> allee: I havn't looked at it, I plan to soon <allee> Riddell: Great. Btw. no response from konference upstream yet. Maybe MIA (KaiL: missing in action ;) or in long holidays #kubuntu-devel 2005-06-07 <elmo> Riddell: why's kde-i18n-el packaged separately? <Riddell> elmo: they're all packaged separately now <Riddell> elmo: used to be one big source file, now it's split up by upstream, -el happens to be a new one with this release <elmo> do they use insane two letter country codes upstream too? <elmo> and are Debian doing the same thing? <Riddell> elmo: the country codes come from upstream and match the current binary packages <Riddell> havn't asked Debian yet what they're doing <Riddell> what's wrong with two letter language codes? every other language package seems to use them <elmo> -uk, -ca, -el are all horribly confusing <elmo> and that's just the three I know of offhand, I suspect there are plenty more <elmo> in any event, as you say, the current packages use that scheme, so never mind <JRe> morning alls <KaiL> elmo: uk = ukrainan, el=greek, ca=catalan? <KaiL> what's difficult on this? <KaiL> or do you want to write the full names? <KaiL> kde-i18n-nds works. <KaiL> kde-i18n-de too <KaiL> kaffeine crashes, while xine doesn't want to exit <JRe> KaiL: :( <KaiL> did we have all that small apps from kdegraphics in hoary too? <JRe> KaiL: what apps <JRe> ? <KaiL> kgamma, kruler, kview <JRe> KaiL: you mean installed by default? <KaiL> yes <JRe> KaiL: no <KaiL> and kopete depends on xmms - gar, this happenes with every update... <JRe> KaiL: why kopete depends on xmms ? <KaiL> duno, seams to be a "bad joke" from the guy, who once created that package <KaiL> and comes back again and again <KaiL> juk also crashes (I think, I already said this) <JRe> KaiL: wow seems to be many work to do| <KaiL> finally missing: openoffice.org2-kde, amarok, kscreensaver (=kdeaddons) and k3b <KaiL> ....not, that I'd be sad, if we drop screensavers at all (as they are only a waste of energy) <JRe> make kopete depending on xmms is a bad joke :( <JRe> KaiL: we have someone to fix the depency of kopete and there is a bug report for the JuK crash? <opi> morning :-) <JRe> morning <Riddell> elmo: python-qt3 needs either to move to universe or for libqscintilla5c2 to move to main so the new version can compile <Riddell> elmo: nothing depends on it so it could be moved to universe but I expect at least 1 package in main to depend on it soon so it might have to move back again <elmo> what's going to depend on it? <doko> Riddell, what's the status of xpdf-utils? can it be replaced? <Riddell> elmo: guidance, system configuration tools http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ <Riddell> doko: it's used by kpdf to get information out of PDF files, it could be moved to a suggest if it's a problem but it would be nice to have the functionality by default <elmo> that's definitely going to main? <Riddell> elmo: not definately, so I'm happy for python-qt3 to be moved to universe for the moment <doko> Riddell: can we have this as an interim solution, so that kubuntu-desktop get's installable again? <elmo> I wish I knew why it was in main for hoary <doko> elmo: simple: build-dep for hpij <elmo> Riddell: could you investigate using a poppler based tool instead? pitti did this for cups, and it didn't take him very long. you might even be able to reuse his work <Riddell> doko: ok <elmo> doko: hplip doesn't use it anymore? <elmo> Riddell: (feel free to do what doko's asking first tho) <Riddell> hplip seems to be in universe <elmo> the source isn't <Riddell> right <doko> elmo: I did split hplip into hplip and hplip-base <elmo> nor is hpijs <doko> hplip still uses python-qt3 <elmo> doko: hmm, ok <doko> the debian maintainer doesn't want to drop the build-dep for Debian. he says, the upstream pregenerated files are often just wrong <elmo> I've demoted python-qt for now then <Riddell> elmo: groovy <doko> elmo: what about libqt-perl (debconf build dep) <elmo> doko: hum. <doko> maybe we should move that to #u-d <elmo> Riddell: you guys happy with supporting kdebindings? <Riddell> elmo: yep <Riddell> elmo: kdebindings is also needed for koffice, and I expect parts of koffice to be in the next kubuntu <doko> elmo: well, in that case, we can keep python-qt3 in main as well ... <elmo> doko: buh, seriously? <Riddell> doko: python-qt3 doesn't come from kdebindings <Riddell> the version in kdebindings is out of date <doko> Riddell, no, but if we offer bindings for perl, there should be bindings for python as well. you remember, python everywhere ;) <elmo> ok, promoted libqt-perl <Riddell> doko: need to get debconf re-written in python <doko> Riddell: do the two FTBFS look fixable for you? <Riddell> doko: yep, pretty sure the fixes for those are already in upstream, I just need to dig them out, will do so today <doko> fine, then kubuntu-desktop should be installable again <Riddell> will the buildd's automatically pick up that python-qt3 has been demoted? <doko> don't know, ask infinity <hunger> doko: It isen't. amarok, k3b, kscreensaver and openoffice.org2-kde did not yet make it into the archives. <Riddell> hunger: we just discussed amarok and k3b and I'll sort them today <hunger> Riddell: Oh, I only picked up "doko>fine, then kubuntu-desktop should be installable again" :-) <Riddell> hunger: kdeartwork (not part of kubuntu-desktop) can't complile because of xscreensaver-gl <Riddell> doko: does someone just need to upload a new xscreensaver-gl to fix that so it'll pick up the correct shlibs? <doko> what do you want to fix? <Riddell> no, I'm wrong, it's the build-dep on xlibmesa-glu-dev that's the problem <doko> xlibmesa-glu-dev -> x11proto-gl-dev <Riddell> doko: how desperatly do you want kubuntu-desktop to be installable <Riddell> I'd like to recert the depends on the kde module's meta-packages back to what KDE ships with then fix the kubuntu seed to include what we ship with <Riddell> s/recert/revert/ <doko> Riddell, how desperatly do you want buildable CD's? <Riddell> yep, but it should be done at some point so I think now is as good as any <doko> ask Kamion about it. we definitely need an xorg update for the CD's <amu> moin' <Riddell> hello amu, any plans for today? <amu> not excatly, most is done, got millions of mails, need about 15-30min. more <uniq> riddell: let me know if there is anything i can do to help. <Riddell> uniq: could look at konversation package, there's a bugzilla entry saying changes need mergin from debian <uniq> ok.. will do. <doko> amu: two FTBFS ... k3b and amarok <amu> k3b looks fine, finally there's also a new upstream version :) <uniq> amu: i have done some work on packaging amarok 1.2.4.. the debian/ dir is ready and all.. gcc4-compile-fix.patch and all.. but some too-advanced-for-me-to-understand compile error stops me from making the package. <uniq> i can publish the sources if someone would like to take a look. <amu> uniq: would be good if you add your patch to the bts <uniq> will do. <JRe> uniq: yeah i'll try to help if i can do something <KabelKasper> Hello, does anybody know where i can get the python2.4-dcop package? <uniq> amu: you're thinking about #11082 or #11285 ? <Riddell> KabelKasper: python-dcop <KabelKasper> Riddell: But this has dependencies to >=python2.3 <KabelKasper> I wnat to try the rename_hdd scriptfrom Rajeev J Sebastian <Riddell> KabelKasper: yeah, it's broken in hoary I'm afraid <uniq> amu: i'm adding the potch to #11082 <KabelKasper> Riddell: ;( <amu> uniq: the lang files are beeing extracted from the kubuntu debs, he should be sure he installed also the langpacks <uniq> amu: like kde-i18n-XX ? <uniq> I have kde-i18n-nb. but amarok is still english for me. <amu> language-pack-XX or language-support-xx <uniq> bbl.. birthday party for one of my co-workers. <uniq> ok. * Riddell announces KDE 3.4.1 http://dot.kde.org/1117548502 <JRe> cheers! <uniq> great :) <uniq> I'll go celebrate my coworkers birthday.. and the release of 3.4.1 then :) <KaiL> "from the ---KDE dept" << uhm, what? :) <uniq> amu: the patch is at #11082 if you want it.. posted at the wrong place.. though. :| <uniq> gtg. <JRe> KabelKasper: lol <KabelKasper> JRe: ? <JRe> KabelKasper: oups sorry it was a KaiL: lol missed ;) ;) <Riddell> KaiL: I thought it would be nice to welcome our new greek translation pack <amu> uniq: ;) no prob <KaiL> there wasn't one before? <amu> "but it seems the po files are extracted" they are extracted .... if they arent it's a bug :) i'll ask pitti ( he's
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