#ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-01 <c_smith> hello <c_smith> bkerensa, what kind of help is needed for the Global Jam? <c_smith> bkerensa, I sent you an Email about the Global Jam to try and see if there is anything I can help with there, reply as soon as you can beforehand so we can get this ball rolling. <Budget> Time for a total newbie question. I'm planning on attending the Global Jam on the 4th. I've never been to anything like this before. What should I bring? <c_smith> Budget, I'd try to bring food (not needed, but would help), be sure to bring yourself (obvious, but thrown in for kicks) and if you plan on bringing a Laptop or Tablet PC, feel free to. I'll be bring both my Android Tablet and the Laptop I'm typing this on. <c_smith> aside from that, I don't believe there's much else that needs to be brought. <Budget> I hadn't though about bringing food. I see if I can stop by the store on the way there. <c_smith> Budget, Bkerensa has said to not make food an obligation, but he has put a call for those who feel like it should, as otherwise there wouldn't be food. <bkerensa|mobile> c_smith: ill email you in the morning i have a dinner meeting with nathwill tomorrow to discuss logistics <bkerensa> nathwill_ you still here <bkerensa> hmms <c_smith> hello <bkerensa> kees: Hope to see you this weekend <kees> bkerensa: it's on my calendar! :) #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-02 <bkerensa> hi c_smith <bkerensa> bdmurray: For the live cd's we need those to be 11.10 right? <bdmurray> bkerensa: 12.04 is best <bkerensa> bdmurray: Ok I will bring some and so will nathwill and we will git it done :) <bkerensa> get* <bkerensa> slangasek: Do you have a time slot you would like to do the talk around that way I can announce it <slangasek> bkerensa: I would assume, since the talk is aimed at getting folks oriented in order to be able to contribute productively, that we'd want it first thing (and likewise for bdmurray's talk and any others) <bkerensa> slangasek: excellent... I just didnt want to assume you would be there first thing in the morning <bkerensa> :) <bdmurray> I was planning on more of a workshop and less of a talk <bkerensa> bdmurray: yeah :) I know nathwill was very interested in learning from both you and slangasek as he is interested in getting more involved in bug fixes and has been doing bitesizes like me <bkerensa> I think were both running into the issue of not knowing C <bkerensa> :P <bkerensa> for bigger bugs #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-03 <c_smith> Bkerensa, may I ask you a question about the Global Jam? <c_smith> ok, here's to hoping Xchat doesn't quit on me like Androirc did. <c_smith> bkerensa, are you available to answer a question I have regarding the Global Jam? <blkperl> bkerensa: update agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda <nebrith> Hello, hello, familiar nicks. :) * nibalizer waves to nebrith * nebrith waves to nibz <c_smith> bkerensa, art thou available. <bkerensa|mobile> c_smith: if i dont respond it means unavailable... all mesages on irc that mention me go to my phone so i see it and reapond if available <bkerensa|mobile> what question do you have? <bkerensa|mobile> blkperl: ill update it when we have an agenda <bkerensa|mobile> so far nobody has raised a item and anyne can edit <c_smith> bkerensa, you here? <bkerensa> c_smith: whats up? <bkerensa> c_smith: Hello? <bkerensa> c_smith: Can you e-mail your question to me or the mailing list... I'm trying to be less available after 5pm because I too need breaks and aside from this LoCo I do work on many other projects :) <nathwill> is it legit to slap a .patch on a bug, or is an actual debdiff preferred? <sbeattie> nathwill: debdiff's are preferred, particularly if your intent is to become more involved in ubuntu development, but patches are acceptable. <nathwill> k.thx sbeattie <nathwill> definitely interested in contributing more, just getting into the process of committing proposed fixes <nathwill> lots of variant documentation on best practices... :( <blkperl> slangasek: can you look at bug 475864 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 475864 in kickseed (Ubuntu) "Unable to kickstart with LVM partition scheme." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475864 <blkperl> and maybe nudge it in the right direction :) <blkperl> bkerensa: shoudn't Ubuntu Global jam be on http://calagator.org/? <slangasek> blkperl: the bug was reported against karmic; has it been confirmed with precise? <slangasek> the latest commenter says "it's still an issue" but doesn't say what version he's using <slangasek> bkerensa: so did you get any off-list volunteers to bring food for tomorrow? <bkerensa> blkperl: Did it not get automatically synced? <bkerensa> slangasek: I just got back from vancouver with my stuff and allison is bringing stuff and also nathwill (offlist) has committed to buy stuff too and he is giving me a ride tomorrow morning so :) <bkerensa> if we end up needing more food or stuff I can likely commit to making another run with nathwill <slangasek> ok, so food has been coordinated? :) <slangasek> what all is accounted for? <bkerensa> slangasek: I got two 12-packs of soda and two huge family size bags of chips (non-paleo) tomorrow morning I will be hitting fred meyer for some hummus and crackers... Nathwill will likely get whatever I ask him to? and allison has volunteered some beverages and light foods * slangasek nods <slangasek> I think I may bring a pile of snacking meats as well <bkerensa> slangasek: if you have any suggestions I'm all ears and I could then relay those to nathwill in morning and also grab more <bkerensa> slangasek: you eat hummus right? <slangasek> yep <slangasek> but not crackers ;) <bkerensa> slangasek: I actually think you turned me onto hummus <slangasek> hummus is awesome <bkerensa> Yeah... I didnt like it for years and I think its because I had only tried Sabra which I still dislike... There is a portland brand thats really good <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> slangasek: I think kees might be coming too so two paleo eaters = a need for meat <bkerensa> :D <blkperl> bkerensa: its on calagator <blkperl> now <bkerensa> blkperl: Ahh twice even <bkerensa> blkperl: Any PSU-ACM folks joining us? <dhrasmus> hello <dhrasmus> I plan to drop by the Global Jam ramirezanna@example.org. Can't log into Launchpad to RSVP (site is being disagreeable) <dhrasmus> Hopefully that'll work <blkperl> bkerensa: yep <slangasek> blkperl: so has bug #475864 been confirmed in precise? <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 475864 in kickseed (Ubuntu) "Unable to kickstart with LVM partition scheme." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475864 <blkperl> slangasek: idk i could check at global jam tomorrow <slangasek> ok #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-04 <kees> I've updated my status to "attending" and will bring MOAR MEAT <kees> and likely veggies too * blkperl rsvps and claims to be bringing 4 <bkerensa> blkperl: Excellent <bkerensa> kees: Excellent news :) <bkerensa> I really hope a starbucks is nearby because I'm going to need a bit of caffeine to function all day <kees> hah, whoops -- my laptop is on natty because was trying to avoid unity for as long as possible. :P <bkerensa> kees: I tried too man... I even ran gnome-session-fallback (which is as nice as gnome2) but in the end I have to use Unity if I'm to be able to contribute to Ubuntu further <bkerensa> Unity takes awhile to get used to but with the new lenses and HUD I am starting to enjoy it somewhat <kees> I'm lost without focus-follows-mouse :) <bkerensa> kees: What is Debian going to do now that Gnome2 is EOL? <bkerensa> obviously Debian users can choose their own DE but what will ship as default <kees> bkerensa: I assume Gnome3 <bkerensa> hmm fun times <bkerensa> slangasek: I have printed some debian brochures too which I will put out on a table <bkerensa> :) <slangasek> Debian has brochures?! <slangasek> yeah, the Debian gnome maintainers have moved to GNOME 3, and it's currently installed by default as the successor to GNOME 2 in Debian testing <c_smith> hello <bkerensa> c_smith: hello <bkero> bkerensa: how does Ubuntu do OSD notifications? <bkero> and how can I send them through python <bkero> ? <bkerensa> bkero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD <bkero> bkerensa: that still doesn't tell me how to use it, but thanks <bkerensa> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/finally-easy-way-to-customize-notify.html <bkero> cool <bkerensa> bkero: What do you want to do? <bkerensa> :) <bkero> bkerensa: didn't it put some notifications in the middle of the screen, osx style? <bkerensa> the webupd8 one should let you some <bkerensa> bkero: On the right hand side <bkero> I know about the right hand side <bkero> I thought there were some that would go in the middle with a larger bubble <bkerensa> bkero: Not that I am aware of <bkerensa> =o <bkero> hrm <bkero> bkerensa: then I'ma patch it! <bkero> make the default a huge bubble in the middle of the screen <bkerensa> bkero: Do it :) <bkerensa> bkero: oh boy 39+ RSVP'ed <bkerensa> I wonder if we will ever have an event that passes 100+ <bkerensa> :D <bkero> perhaps <bkerensa> albrigha: Whats up <bkerensa> oy vay its early <cweber10> bkerensa: waiting for ride to get out of salem to head up. should get there between 10:30-11:00. * vagrantc waves <bkerensa> hi <bkerensa> hi kalosaurusrex <bkerensa> kalosaurusrex: You making it to global jam today? <bkerensa> nathwill_: u there? * blkperl is here <bkerensa> blkperl: where r u? <bkerensa> :D <blkperl> in the psu corner by the door <blkperl> :) <bkerensa> kk <blkperl> s/corner/group <bkerensa> blkperl: When you guys came in was the main door open or close and is there anyone up front in the room watching the door by chance? <blkperl> close, people were in the meeting room though <kees> OH HAI! * slangasek waves * vagrantc swims * gaspasser is hangin out reading the mail <slangasek> who's up for some bitesized bugfixing? <slangasek> http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ * c_smith is here * slangasek waves some more <slangasek> http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ <nathwill> /msg bkerensa http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ btw <nathwill> er <nathwill> bloody spaces <bkerensa> lol <slangasek> found a bitesized bug <slangasek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/793554 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 793554 in dbus (Ubuntu) "Add emits stanza for deconfiguring-networking" [Undecided,New] <slangasek> bzr branch lp:ubuntu/dbus <slangasek> ^ grab the source bzr branch for dbus <slangasek> (you should install the bzr and bzr-builddeb packages first) <slangasek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess <slangasek> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ <slangasek> dpkg -S /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf <TRAVISg> How goes the Global Jam??? <c_smith> really nicely. XD <TRAVISg> Cool I will be bye later <teknotus_> Allison brought brownies, and soda. <TRAVISg> Probably around 6 ish it's going till eight right? <TRAVISg> What should I bring in with me as far as sustenance for the final stretch? <c_smith> I brought cookies and soda. <nathwill> ready <teknotus_> Lots of people brought soda. We could make a pyramid. <TRAVISg> hee <TRAVISg> hee <TRAVISg> How many folks are there? <cweber10> 25+ would be my guess <c_smith> got the source. <slangasek> $ find . -name 'rc-sysinit.conf*' <slangasek> ./conf/rc-sysinit.conf <slangasek> $ <nathwill> bzr branch lp:ubuntu/upstart <TRAVISg> All right I will see you all around 5:30 or six <TRAVISg> God willing and the creek don't rise <slangasek> $ bzr diff <slangasek> $ dch -i <nathwill> this page has instructions to configure bzr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp <slangasek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/868984/ <slangasek> $ debcommit <slangasek> bzr commit -m 'Add 'emits deconfiguring-networking' to rc-sysinit.conf so that initctl <slangasek> check-config works for dbus. LP: #793554.' --fixes 'lp:793554' <slangasek> Committing to: /tmp/upstart <slangasek> modified conf/rc-sysinit.conf <slangasek> modified debian/changelog <slangasek> Committed revision 1375. <slangasek> $ <nathwill> bzr whoami "Frank Chu <ramirezanna@example.org>" <nathwill> bzr launchpad-login fchu <c_smith> you are going to want to modify those commands accordingly for yourselves, as your name probably isn't Frank Chu. <slangasek> $ bzr push lp:~/ubuntu/precise/upstart/lp.793554 <slangasek> Using default stacking branch /+branch-id/537671 at chroot-73031632:///~vorlon/ubuntu/precise/upstart/ <slangasek> $ <slangasek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship <slangasek> run 'bzr lp-propose' <slangasek> and done :) <kees> Â¡ÊÉâ  Â¡uÊop ÇpÄ±sdn sÄ± sÄ±É¥â¥ Â¡Ä±ÉÉ¥ É¥O <kees> http://www.fileformat.info/convert/text/upside-down.htm <c_smith> Â¿ÊÊÊÉÇá´ 'É¥Éu <kees> :) * kees waves <cy1> yay! <cy1> For anyone who is interested in PGP, I'm giving cookies to anyone who gives me a digitally signed receipt that says "Cy (83B7 C191 7DA4 87CA BC27 F7BF 5D5E 711A 4CCD C172) gave me 3 cookies." * vagrantc will not sign unverifiable messages. <cy1> Why? <cy1> You can verify it. Just check your mouth for cookies. :B <slangasek> cy1: how's this? <slangasek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/869053/ <kees> cy1: that fingerprint doesn't uniquely identify you, fwiw :) <cy1> kees: If I decide to share my private key I'm sure you'll be able to find a copy. Until then it's pretty damn hard to forge. <kees> cy1: I mean that without type and size, it's possible to forge that fingerprint <kees> i.e. 4096R/DC6DC026 A5C3 F68F 229D D60F 723E 6E13 8972 F4DF DC6D C026 <kees> vs A5C3 F68F 229D D60F 723E 6E13 8972 F4DF DC6D C026 <cy1> kees: Type and size...? Not sure what you mean... <cy1> Oh <cy1> Damn, didn't consider that. <cy1> 2048R/4CCDC172 <kees> otherwise I can generate 384R in about 10 minutes with the same fingerprint :) <kees> hehe <cy1> ewww that's pretty bad <cy1> slangasek: Excellent! Which room are you in? <bkerensa> Â¿ÊÊÊÉÇá´ 'É¥Éu <cy1> kees: On the other hand, nobody would trust a 384R in the first place, no matter what fingerprint it had. <kees> cy1: hehehe quite true :) <kees> generally this issue has come up with automated system, unfortunatley. <kees> if it was written just to check fingerprint without type/size, .... oops <kees> bkerensa: paste bug here -- I've noticed it too <slangasek> cy1: oh, I was sitting across from you, and then I left, and now I'm back, but you're not here :) <slangasek> bkerensa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~/ <c_smith> yay for disconnections....... <slangasek> blkperl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess <bkerensa> kees, slangasek: #946708 <bkerensa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/946708 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 946708 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Graphical Expander that shows progress in terminal does not show progress" [Undecided,New] <kees> nathwill: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/inkscape.html <slangasek> bdmurray: ^^ do you recall if there's a master bug for this issue? <cy1> slangasek: With the vaio? <vagrantc> kees: <vagrantc> kees: you should revoke your canonical address. * kees holds breath <kees> vagrantc: but maybe I'll work there again! <vagrantc> hah! <vagrantc> kees: it currently bounces <kees> unfortunatley, yes. <kees> it's a great way to find the people that don't email the sigs :) <kees> lol <kees> Mar 4 15:37:29 vinyl sm-mta[12937]: q24NbRtH012937: Milter: data, reject=451 4.3.0 MXs for 'ramirezanna@example.org' tempfailed email: 450 4.2.0 <ramirezanna@example.org>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted, see http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/freegeek.org.html <kees> BATTLING GREYLISTS! <kees> <tgm4883> How is the global jam going? <kees> m m # ""# <kees> mmmm mmm mmm mm#mm mmm mm#mm # mm mmm # <nathwill> fantaco <kees> #" "# " # # " # #" # # #" # #" # # <kees> # # m"""# """m # #"""" # # # #"""" # <kees> ##m#" "mm"# "mmm" "mm "#mm" "mm # # "#mm" "mm <kees> # <nathwill> this <kees> " <nathwill> will <nathwill> mess <kees> <nathwill> up <nathwill> your <kees> m m mmmmm m m <nathwill> asscii <kees> mmm m mm mmmm # # # "# # # <kees> #" "# #" # #" "# # # #mmmm" # # <kees> # # # # # # # # # "m # " <kees> "#m#" # # "#m"# "mmmm" # " #mmmmm # <slangasek> c_smith: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/ <aubrey> bit.ly/w3o1yc <kees> m # <kees> "" <kees> hi <kees> <slangasek> c_smith: sorry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs <kees> # " m ""# m mmmm mmm <kees> #mmm mmm mm#mm # m m # m m " "# mmm # <kees> #" "# # # # "m m" # "m m m" mmm" #" "# # <kees> # # # # # #m# # #m#m# "# # # # <kees> ##m#" mm#mm "mm # "mm "# # # # "mmm#" "#m#" mm#mm <kees> m" " <kees> "" <kees> <kees> <kees> m m mmm <tgm4883> I was going to head up today, but apparently something I ate last night had shellfish in it :( <kees> "m m" #" " <kees> #m# # <kees> "# "#mm" <kees> m" <kees> "" <c_smith> really nice........ keep up the distraction........ bleh <bdmurray> slangasek: did you ubiquity expander bug? <slangasek> bdmurray: that's the bug I was pointing at yes <bdmurray> bug 902479 was reported by someone we know <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 830946 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #902479 Nothing displayed on embedded terminal." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830946 <bdmurray> and is a duplicate of the one mentioned <bkerensa> bdmurray: Perhaps this was the one I discussed with you at the last jam/bsp we had <bdmurray> bkerensa: perhaps! <slangasek> aha :) <slangasek> bdmurray: I had difficulty finding this bug when we went looking... should bugs show up in bugs.lp.net/~/ that are master bugs of bugs you've filed? <bdmurray> slangasek: if I understand correctly I would *expect* them to show up at https://bugs.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/+affectingbugs however I don't see it there <bdmurray> my expectations don't always match what launchpad does though <slangasek> bdmurray: ack ;) <slangasek> nathwill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869131/ <blkperl> slangasek: bug 880104 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 880104 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Using pam_group results in: pam_group(lightdm:setcred): unable to set the group membership for user: operation not permitted" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880104 #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-05 <kees> vagrantc: thanks! I've pushed the updated sigs :):) <vagrantc> kees: excellent! <slangasek> nathwill: also useful to know: after 'bzr merge ../debian', 'bzr diff' will show the difference vs. the previous Ubuntu version, 'bzr diff --old ../debian' will show the difference vs. the latest Debian version <vagrantc> kees: cookie-free, to boot! <kees> hehe <nathwill> thanks slangasek. i take it once pushed, an lp-propose will be smart enough to propose a merge to package master? <nathwill> or do i need to specify <slangasek> nathwill: it should be smart enough :) <sunarst4r> test <nibalizer> slangasek: I think I found what I would consider a bug w/ the live/installer CD: right after booting, you get no networking because it doesn't dhclient or anything <nibalizer> is that intentional <bkerensa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/946729 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 946729 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical Lockup Defect during normal use " [Undecided,New] <nathwill> hey slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs/+bug/946715 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 946715 in gnome-vfs (Ubuntu) "promote libgnomevfs2-extra to main" [Undecided,New] <nathwill> nudge nudge <slangasek> nibalizer: if you're using the live-installer, then you should get networking via network-manager <nibalizer> slangasek: all it says is "Wired network. Device not managed", why doesn't network manager 'manage' my wired connection? <slangasek> nibalizer: good question! :) <kees> nibalizer: check /etc/network/interfaces -- if the interface is listed there, I think N-M will ignore it <nibalizer> Also, if you lack networking: Ubuntu Software Center can't install things. But it creates an icon on the Unity-Dock-launcher-thing with a "?" on the picture and THEN fails, causing an eyesore and useless app <slangasek> nathwill: it's true that I have access to change the override to main, but you would need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess first :) <nibalizer> kees: eth0 is in network/interfaces <blkperl> slangasek: bug 793632 closed in debian, fixed in ubuntu? <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 793632 in puppet (Ubuntu) "puppetmaster and puppet have clashing logrotate configs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793632 <kees> nibalizer: try commenting it out and restart n-m. <nibalizer> kees: haha, rather than starting to work, n-m now reports 'no network devices available' * kees holds his face <nibalizer> poor network manager <kees> nibalizer: I never get it right and always have to try a few things <nibalizer> droped as a child <nibalizer> s/droped/dropped/ <kees> nibalizer: here's what I have: <kees> auto eth0 <kees> #iface eth0 inet dhcp <nibalizer> kees getting networking isn't my problem, dhclient makes it go, I'm wondering if this is a bug worth reporting to lp <kees> oh, hrm... sure! <kees> it may get ignored for a while, but at least it'll be there. :) <blkperl> nibalizer: bug 886427 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 886427 in oidentd (Ubuntu) "oidentd doesn't have a status option in the init script" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886427 <slangasek> by default when using the live installer, /etc/network/interfaces should not have anything for eth0, letting n-m manage it <slangasek> so that's a bug <slangasek> nibalizer: so please file it :) ^^ <slangasek> bkerensa: grep -r 'thing to search' directory/ <slangasek> nathwill: have followed up on the gnome-vfs thing, it needs to be fixed by the inkscape maintainers and once changed there the archive will get semi-automatically updated <nathwill> slangasek: schweet. thanks <bkerensa> slangasek: so say a typo is something like "this app doessss this" and it occurs in multiple files within the source tree how could I easily replace all instances of that typo with the correct spelling? <slangasek> bkerensa: um... grep -r 'this app doessss this' directory | xargs sed -i -e's/this app doessss this/this app does this/' <slangasek> sorry, no <slangasek> grep -rl 'this app doessss this' directory | xargs sed -i -e's/this app doessss this/this app does this/' * nathwill hearts xargs <nibalizer> slangasek: sorry getting familiar with lp bug reporting... what package is this related to ? n-m or live-installer? * nibalizer supposed live-installer may not be a package <slangasek> nibalizer: 'ubiquity' as the catch-all package <slangasek> nibalizer: however: when you *boot* the live-CD, what does /etc/network/interfaces look like? <nibalizer> slangasek: i'm booted into the live-cd, haven't started installer, we have a loopback and an eth0 <slangasek> nibalizer: then that's a bug in live-build <slangasek> or in casper <bkero> How's that Ubuntu meetup going? <slangasek> it's goin' <bkero> make it go! <bkerensa> slangasek: this was the bitesize bug that was related to kernel-team https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/593107 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 593107 in linux-meta (Ubuntu) "Package description for linux-tools-* needs improvement" [Low,Fix released] <bkerensa> its now fixed <bkero> lol <bkero> what a bug <nathwill> slangasek: do you prefer we just subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, or do you want us to link you merge proposals? * kees stabs lintian <kees> adam_g: say... which # is the lvm/watershed bug? <slangasek> nathwill: merge proposals automatically wind up on the sponsorship list without having to subscribe anyone :) <nathwill> ah. kk. well nm then! <nathwill> the Getting Sponsorship wiki may have an old way of doing it listed then <slangasek> kees: bug #802626 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 802626 in lvm2 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "vgchange may deadlock in initramfs when VG present that's not used for rootfs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802626 <slangasek> nathwill: does it? Let me see <slangasek> nathwill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship doesn't mention subscribing sponsors <bkerensa> slangasek: Interested in working on #337358 if you have some guidance as to a propose change I could fix <slangasek> that's only mentioned in the traditional process <bkerensa> Bug #337358 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 337358 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager lacks support for wpa-essid though ifup can handle it fine" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337358 <nathwill> ah, it's not the SeekingSponsorship wiki, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix#Committing_the_fix <nathwill> slangasek, i'll change it... <nathwill> and... it won't let me edit it <TRAVISg> heading over be there soon <nibalizer> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/946783 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 946783 in live-build (Ubuntu) "No networking in live-cd " [Undecided,New] <nibalizer> what package is related to ubuntu software center? <bkerensa> Bug #661654 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 661654 in pam (Ubuntu) "pam_motd should log the error when run-parts fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661654 <slangasek> nibalizer: thankee <slangasek> nibalizer: 'software-center' <nibalizer> slangasek: yea i just figuerd that out <nibalizer> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/946789 <lubotu1> Ubuntu bug 946789 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Lacking network, failed package installs still create broken entry in Launcher" [Undecided,New] <nibalizer> also is it inteded behavior for every application installed in software-center to be added to Launcher? <nibalizer> That seems... unsustainable <slangasek> nibalizer: no <slangasek> nibalizer: with the networking bug, you booted an actual liveCD, right, not netbooting? <kees> adam_g: http://outflux.net/udev/ <cy1> Welp I'm gonna head off. It's now dark enough to bicycle around all over the place. :p <cy1> http://pastebin.com/JtN0aKTw <bkerensa> hi nathwill <nathwill> hi bkerensa! <nathwill> how's thangs? <bkerensa> nathwill: good :) how is yhoo <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> still here! <cweber10> morning <nathwill> morning cweber, how's it goin? <cweber10> on way to school, and finaly caught up on sleep. <bkerensa> cweber10: :( seeya at 1pm on the WOU presentation thingy <bkerensa> ;p <cweber10> yep need to actuly set up g+ on my school account <bkerensa> nathwill: #900002 is now dead <nathwill> yaaaay <nathwill> that bug was out of control <bkerensa> nathwill: it is now #947240, #947242, #947244, #947245, #947246, #947247, #947248 <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> damn yooo <nathwill> ;) <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> cweber10: I hope Becka knows that I intend to wholly use the Ubuntu Wiki on Triaging :P <bkerensa> I think it provides a pretty "precise" guide on triaging <bkerensa> ;0 <cweber10> bkerensa: Yea not 100% sure what she expects. BTW setup google+ on my school account. <cweber10> Yestery was good, got lots of good information <cweber10> yesterday even. :P <nathwill> lol. <nathwill> i like yestery <nathwill> sounds like yester-eve <bkerensa> nathwill: :( A white square artifact took over my desktop... this is the second time it has happened and upon reboot my wallpaper was defaulted and my launcher <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> what'd you DO! <bkerensa> nathwill: idk and now it wont let me set a background at all and appearance has background set but it is not the one displaying <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> slangasek to the rescue? <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> if I knew which package was bugging I would file a report <slangasek> hmm? <slangasek> start with gnome-control-center, I guess <slangasek> bkerensa: ^^ <bkerensa> k <bkerensa> slangasek: I was talking to jcastro who also has encounter and he thinks it may be drivers issues <slangasek> could be, though I don't recall seeing any driver updates recently <nathwill> bkerensa: you using the proprietary graphics drivers? <bkerensa> nathwill: nope <nathwill> yaaay <vagrantc> anyone leave a thick black hoodie sweatshirt at freegeek during the gloabl jam yesterday? <vagrantc> let me know, otherwise i'll put it in the freegeek lost and found <bkerensa> vagrantc: A hoodie and not a zip up? <vagrantc> bkerensa: a zip up hoodie <bkerensa> vagrantc: ok well I saw two... one might be nathwill <bkerensa> and I have to check if I took mine but I think i came in just a shirt <nathwill> say what <nathwill> um. i had a zip-up, but it had no hood <nathwill> and i wouldn't call it thick <bkerensa> cweber10: let me know when ur ready i dont see becka on g+ yet <cweber10> we have my laptop setup <bkerensa> cweber10: ok so I should invite you then? <bkerensa> cweber10: Can you add me on G+ <cweber10> yea maybe will work <cweber10> i added you into my circles <bkerensa> ok <bkerensa> cweber10: im in ur hangout ;0 <cweber10> ha ha got screen working <cweber10> bkerensa; they where talking keyboard use not mouse <cweber10> you still there <bkerensa> cweber10: system had a weird shutdown for some reason <bkerensa> coming back up <bkerensa> cweber10: It says the hangout ended <bkerensa> ? <cweber10> yea we had school net issues so switched to wired <cweber10> what number? <bkerensa> cweber10: It was my system it just popped up a shutdown dialog which I accident had clicked <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> no idea what the shutdown dialog came up though <cweber10> yea odd <cweber10> what number was your bug. <bkerensa> slangasek: I fixed that git bug and as expected someone is asking me to submit upstream saying they wont accept in ubuntu <bkerensa> :( <slangasek> bkerensa: what bug was this? <bkerensa> slangasek: #879427 <bkerensa> here is my merge that Andreas K commented on <bkerensa> https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/precise/git/fix-for-879427/+merge/95824 <slangasek> bkerensa: well in this case the bug was apparently already fixed both upstream and in Debian, so he's just synced the package directly <slangasek> so the bug is fixed now <bkerensa> slangasek: its not fixed though the patch that was submitted upstream previously could not have fixed it <bkerensa> :) <bkerensa> the patch submitted upstream only fixes it in two places while the typo was in much more then two places <slangasek> well, the other places the string occurs are all in translation files <bkerensa> ahh <slangasek> looking at the current package <slangasek> this actually means that translations in launchpad may fail to be picked up because the string being translated doesn't match the one in the source <bkerensa> slangasek: my merge proposal fixes the translation files <slangasek> yes <bkerensa> so do I still need to submit a patch upstream? <slangasek> but I agree with Anders that this is not an issue for which we want to carry a delta in Ubuntu - we still want to be efficient in how we manage our deltas <bkerensa> ok <slangasek> pushing it upstream to Debian would be best :) <bkerensa> slangasek: Is there a efficient command to make a patch from my branch and also what package would I submit it to on upstream? <slangasek> 'bzr diff -p1 lp:ubuntu/git > ../git-typo.patch' should give you a patch from your branch <slangasek> the package in Debian is the same as in Ubuntu <slangasek> (it has to be or else we wouldn't be syncing it :) <bkerensa> slangasek: do you know the version for debians package? <slangasek> 1:1.7.9-1 <slangasek> (the version that the bug shows was just synced to precise) <slangasek> bkerensa: the best way to ensure you're submitting a patch that applies in Debian in this case is by doing a 'bzr merge lp:debian/git' into your branch, then resolving any merge conflicts <bkerensa> slangasek: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662709 <lubotu1> Debian bug 662709 in git version: 1:1.7.9-1 "typo in git translation files" [Normal,Open] <bkerensa> should I need to redo the patch? <slangasek> bkerensa: hmm, both patches you sent to that bug are empty <slangasek> bkerensa: sorry, I gave you a bad command - it should be 'bzr diff -p1 --old lp:ubuntu/git > ../git-typo.patch' <bkerensa> slangasek: No I'm going to look like a fool to the DD :P <slangasek> just blame it on me <slangasek> it's a good idea to review diffs for sanity before emailing them off to bug trackers, fwiw :) <bkerensa> slangasek: :P yeah I should have checked <vagrantc> it's not hard to reverse the patch or change the depth, if it clearly illustrates what the problem is and how to fix it. <vagrantc> ideally the less you have to do the better... but more important is the fix <vagrantc> way less of a problem than pointless whitespace changes or other random unrelated code changes <nathwill> you don't like whitespace changes? <nathwill> i try to introduce 10 with every commit <bkerensa> slangasek: BTS dislikes me that or it is taking an epic time to update any received submissions... I forwarded you the working patch <bkerensa> nathwill: ;p <bkerensa> nathwill: some person called me and asked if I was the freegeek guy and then said they found the dollar store and hung up <bkerensa> =/ <nathwill> you left your sign up! <nathwill> hahahaha <bkerensa> OH FUDGE <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> no <bkerensa> no please tell me I didnt <nathwill> well i certainly didn't take it down <bkerensa> :( how could I have forgot <bkerensa> now everyone who saw it is going to random dial me <bkerensa> good thing it was google voice <vagrantc> bkerensa: i'll take it down tomorrow <bkerensa> hmm a grump debian developer just e-mailed me :P <bkerensa> grumpy* <nathwill> lmao <vagrantc> bkerensa: let it wash over you like water off a duck's back <bkerensa> he said "so I don't <bkerensa> have to do this reassign dance - however fun it may be, it gets tiresome <bkerensa> after a while." <nathwill> was it kees? <bkerensa> no <bkerensa> Gergely Nagy <bkerensa> apparently I tagged the bug wrong so he had to do some sort of debian re-assign dance ;) <bkerensa> I guess thats like a rain dance or something <slangasek> the pseudoheader in Debian bug messages is line-based <slangasek> looks like you accidentally ran the 'Package' and 'Version' lines together <bkerensa> slangasek: Is there any reason BTS would be ignoring my working patch submission? <slangasek> what address did you send the mail to? <bkerensa> slangasek: ramirezanna@example.org <bkerensa> nathwill: I heard back from O'Reilly apps open at end of this month and they think we should be good <nathwill> bkerensa: good deal :) <slangasek> bkerensa: it's probably just that the mail gateway is sometimes slow. email isn't realtime (which is one of the complaints about the Debian bts) <bkerensa> nathwill: also I will be out of state in May likely could you handle our meeting that month? <nathwill> yassir, but you'll need to remind me <bkerensa> nathwill: Will do... I will hopefully be in Oakland for UDS <nathwill> aw #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-06 <cweber10> bkerensa; i think we made a monster in the good way Winny is getting everyone in her group to do a bug :p <Windipity> Haha, How did you know that? <cweber10> Windipity: i said in a good way :p <cweber10> o/ Lacy <lcollins07> Hey at least spell my name right <cweber10> what me spell right you have to be kidding <lcollins07> haha guess I should have known better lol <slangasek> bkerensa: the BTS is being generally slow for me it seems :) <slangasek> bkerensa: (my forward didn't show up on the bug yet either) <bkerensa> slangasek: yeah but its now been two hours :) <bkerensa> slangasek: Im not very optimistic about this bug anyways because now Debian wants me to forward it further upstream <bkerensa> :( <Windipity> Eddie found a bug that seems to be a comment, maybe good for the wishlist. How do we take care of it? Bug #196874 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 196874 in xscorch (Ubuntu) "Modified .desktop for easier use with submenus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196874 <bkerensa> Widipity: You might ask someone on #ubuntu-bugs to look at it who is on the control team so they can wishlist it. <bkerensa> I dont have bug-control privileges yet because I have not resubmitted my app to bdmurray and co <Windipity> Thank you, I will forward that information on. <bdmurray> One thing to do would be to check if the .desktop file for xscorch has changed at all <bdmurray> Windipity: ^ <bdmurray> an easy way to do this is by clicking on "Code" <bdmurray> on the bug page <Windipity> bdmurray: Sure thing, I'll look at that right now. Thanks! <bdmurray> then look at the precise bzr branch <bdmurray> click around enough and you'll end up here <bdmurray> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/xscorch/precise/view/head:/debian/xscorch.desktop <bdmurray> oh neat, lucky us <bkerensa> slangasek: Unfortunately I'm feeling like seeing this Ubuntu bug through and I will try to deal with the gmane folks then perhaps debian can grab it then ubuntu and so on <bkerensa> ;p <bdmurray> Windipity: ^ <bkerensa> slangasek: How do I submit a patch to gmane? I git cloned their repo and made the changes but I have no idea how to proceed from here since I'm unfamiliar with how they accept patches or maybe I can use git to propose my fix? <slangasek> bkerensa: I don't think it's necessary to submit a patch at ths point given that it's going all the way upstream; the upstream maintainer will regenerate the translation files automatically <bkerensa> slangasek: Well someone from the debian group that manages git specifically invited me to submit to gmane <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> :( <slangasek> gmane, btw, is simply an interface to Usenet + mailing lists <bkerensa> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/192289 <slangasek> I think it can be used for posting to the Usenet newsgroups, but I don't know how - I've never used it <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> ok <slangasek> jrnieder said "let's take this upstream", then he did - I don't know that it's worth you putting any more work into preparing a patch :) <bkerensa> Benjamin, the git-gui code can be found at <bkerensa> <git://repo.or.cz/git-gui.git>, in case you want to tackle it. <bkerensa> Thanks and hope that helps, <bkerensa> Jonathan <bkerensa> slangasek: why does 'git format-patch --stdout > git-gui-typo-fix.patch' not create a patch from the git repo I cloned <bkerensa> and made a fix in <slangasek> bkerensa: because git's UI was designed by a madman and a misanthrope? :) <bkerensa> :( <slangasek> have you committed your changes to the git branch? <bkerensa> slangasek: Yes I ran git commit -m "Fixed Typos in Translation Files" <bkerensa> and it showed the changes <slangasek> ok <slangasek> then you need to run 'git format-patch HEAD^ --stdout > git-gui-typo-fix.patch' <bkerensa> slangasek: Great success :P <bkerensa> slangasek: Now might you suggest a way to submit the generated patch? <slangasek> bkerensa: unless there's an email address that gateways to that gmane group, I have no idea <bkerensa> slangasek: Yeah I have it it seems they want me to send the patch inline to a address @kernel.org <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> specifically ramirezanna@example.org <slangasek> right, that's plausible <bkerensa> slangasek: I submitted but they said something about MUA settings? <bkerensa> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/923255/focus=192295 <slangasek> bkerensa: well, he's correct that the message shows double-spaced <slangasek> I have no idea why <bkerensa> slangasek: and he is asking me also to delete the from from values and improve the subject line? <slangasek> don't look at me :) <bkerensa> lol <bkerensa> slangasek: These are your debian folk :P <slangasek> no, they aren't <slangasek> that's someone replying to a post on the git upstream list <bkerensa> ahh <nathwill> oh man... is it naptime yet? what a day. <bkerensa> nathwill: never again <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> bkerensa: never again what? stay up til 3am the night before an event? <bkerensa> slangasek: the patch submitting process for that far upstream is nearly.... its not fun <bkerensa> :( <slangasek> agreed <bkerensa> nathwill: never submit a patch that far up <slangasek> that's why I make the Debian maintainer do it <slangasek> ;) <nathwill> i'm working on one with the gedit devs <nathwill> it's hilarious <bkerensa> slangasek: I have had three people reply with little tidbits of how they want the patch to look <bkerensa> nathwill: gedit doesnt go to lists that linus posts on <bkerensa> :( <nathwill> lolz <bkerensa> and apparently he posted on this list yesterday <nathwill> dude, bkerensa, gnome is the same <nathwill> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671244 <lubotu1> Gnome bug 671244 in general "Add support for freedesktop.org "Desktop Action"" [Normal,Unconfirmed] <nathwill> and i can't argue with anything they suggest. <nathwill> they're right on, this is just hilarious <bkerensa> oh you had fun with sebsebseb <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> nathwill: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/192299 <bkerensa> :( <bkerensa> but if you look up in the main tree of that mailing list you can see I got bombed with critiques <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> haha <bkerensa> why no "git propose" <bkerensa> or something the equiv of merge proposals in ubuntu <nathwill> everybody's got their own workflow... from what i can tell you pretty much have to do a thorough review of the history before having a clue how to propose something they'll accept <nathwill> lesson learned <bkerensa> nathwill: btw Sebastien Bacher (seb) is a ubuntu dev <nathwill> oh cool <nathwill> i also got a crazy letter from some dude in Ubuntu Developers something or other asking about my "experience contributing to Ubuntu" <nathwill> honestly, the fact that they even bother asking that question is my favorite thing about the experience <bkerensa> nathwill: Daniel Holbach? :P Oh you must have come up on our list of 1st timers <bkerensa> ;p <nathwill> i r a wirgin <nathwill> and i think it was andrewsomething <nathwill> anyways, workaday is over <nathwill> headed out. <nathwill> have a good night :) <bkerensa> kk <nathwill> happy tuesday all <bkerensa> ;p <bdmurray> if anybody sees Windipity she brought up bug 196874 yesterday and I just set it to Fix Released rather than forgetting about it. <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 196874 in xscorch (Ubuntu) "Modified .desktop for easier use with submenus" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196874 <nathwill> victory! http://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/commit/?id=1721bf6d97fe01e73f24b5a320ef5166535a02c7 <cweber10> bdmurray: will let Windipity know tomarow when we have lab together. <bdmurray> cweber10: okay, thanks #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-07 <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> nathwill: great success <nathwill> sup? <bkerensa> blkperl: Do you know any of the bug id's for the install issues you ran into <bkerensa> nathwill: Oh just your commit <nathwill> oh, yes <nathwill> also they apparently merged the commit moving libgnomevfs2-extra from suggests to recommends in the inkscape package <bkerensa> cool <nathwill> without moving libgnomevfs2-extra into main <nathwill> well.. <nathwill> i'm not sure that's true, lol <bkerensa> nathwill: I have no idea how to track whether my patch for git got applied <bkerensa> :D <nathwill> pull down the repo <nathwill> check the history <nathwill> :D <bkerensa> ahh yeah I guess I could but why waste bandwidth? <bkerensa> ;p <bkerensa> when its fixed in ubuntu I will get it <bkerensa> nathwill: what music player are you using these days? <nathwill> http://last.fm/ <nathwill> i don't really listen to music <bkerensa> heh <nathwill> i listen to podcasts... <nathwill> and whatever is on the talk radio <nathwill> lots of npr <bkerensa> nathwill: I wouldnt be able to submit any proposals if I didnt have music <nathwill> oh is that one of the pre-reqs? <nathwill> they need to add it to twiki <bkerensa> I guess I should subscribe to http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ <nathwill> it's generally ok <nathwill> i'm interested in the new debate thing they've got going <nathwill> normally i prefer the npr podcasts, and linux outlaws, dan carlin stuff... <nathwill> is pretty good <nathwill> dude, i think JSLint was designed specifically to make people feel like assholes <bkerensa> nathwill: You ever listen to PLA? <blkperl> bkerensa: i think you mean nathwill <blkperl> i mean nibalizer <nathwill> pla? <bkerensa> hmm? <bkerensa> nathwill: Phone Losers of America <nathwill> ah <blkperl> bkerensa: nibz had the install tickets <nathwill> i've heard it before, but not really super interested <blkperl> bkerensa: i fixed a bug though :) <nathwill> woot! <bkerensa> blkperl: ahh <bkerensa> nathwill: http://www.phonelosers.org/media/whats_the_difference.mp3 <bkerensa> :D <bkerensa> the guy who founded PLA lives in Southern Oregon <bkerensa> he comes up to Portland sometimes for InfoSec meetings <nathwill> probably in some terrible city like gold hill <bkerensa> nathwill: Eugene I think <bkerensa> nathwill: Finn likes the guy :D <nathwill> well, all i heard was an intro <nathwill> a good one <bkerensa> ;p <goddard> how can i start a program without it locking down my terminal <goddard> like if i open a file using gedit <bkerensa> goddard: If you launch it from terminal it is just going to do that until your done editing but you can open a new terminal tab to keep working? <cweber10> You can lauch X apps with & at the end of the line and it will fork of the process and leave you the command line <goddard> cool <goddard> hey if i am finished making a change on launchpad and i did my last commit do I click the "propose for merging button"? <bkerensa> goddard: yes <cweber10> bkerensa: BTW finaly got around to confirming your bug #947244 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 947244 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "process does not have unique icon in system monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947244 <blkperl> slangasek: "You just need to fix the changelog entry to change the _current_ version and not create a new package revision, and file an actual bug that this change will fix" <blkperl> slangasek: what do i need to do? <slangasek> can I get some more context :) <blkperl> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~blkperl/ubuntu/precise/plymouth/fix_blank_screen/+merge/95817 <blkperl> oh he's fixing the changelog himself <blkperl> nvm slangasek :) <blkperl> its been merged :) <slangasek> aha :) <slangasek> right, cool - I saw tjaalton talking about that on IRC earlier today <slangasek> I'll probably be uploading plymouth with that change shortly, then <blkperl> so what did i do wrong in the changelog? <blkperl> ugh, that should be login not long <slangasek> I just need to meditate a bit first to make sure there's no risk of this change ever chvt'ing out from underneath lightdm <slangasek> blkperl: so I think the changelog probably would've come out correctly if you'd had DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog set in ~/.devscripts <slangasek> this is the only sensible default when maintaining packages in a VCS <slangasek> unfortunately it's not the default for dch :( <blkperl> :( <blkperl> slangasek: for the lightdm doesn't get apt-get purged correctly what package should i file the bug against <blkperl> lightdm? <slangasek> yes please :) <blkperl> slangasek: is bug 924224 the same issue? <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 924224 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Tried to uninstall lightdm, reported error 8, user logged in." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924224 <blkperl> its not exactly clear * blkperl thinks it is <slangasek> blkperl: yes, that's one of them that we saw <blkperl> slangasek: any way to delete a comment on launchpad or edit? <blkperl> because you beat me to it <blkperl> too bad launchpad doesn't warn you that comments have been posted while you were writing a comment <slangasek> :) <slangasek> comments are cheap <slangasek> no way to delete or edit though, sorry :) <blkperl> slangasek: please mark bug 948909 as triaged and set a priority <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 948909 in puppet (Ubuntu) "puppetmaster-passenger does not install cleanly from scrach" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/948909 <blkperl> i can confirm its broken :) <blkperl> i can probably submit a patch too #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-08 <bkerensa> Bug #949277 <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 949277 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity should not use dconf to store the average background colour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949277 <bkerensa> cweber10: Awesome <bkerensa> =o <bkerensa> hi nathwill <bkerensa> hi Odysimus <nathwill> hi bkerensa <nathwill> brb, i got me some updates :) <nathwill> aaand i'm back <nathwill> anybody else notice that the ambiance theme got slicker in the last couple days? <TRAVISg> Hello all <nathwill> hi TRAVISg <nathwill> how's it goin? <bkerensa> m <bkerensa> #startmeeting <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 8 08:42:01 2012 UTC. The chair is bkerensa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired <bkerensa> #endmeeting <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 08:42:05 2012 UTC. <meetingology> Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2012/ubuntu-us-or.6014050377.42.moin.txt <meetingology> Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2012/ubuntu-us-or.6014050377.42.html <nibalizer> long meeting <blkperl> thats what i was thinking <bkerensa> you guys watch this channel? ;p <bkerensa> blkperl: I was trying to remember the meeting log url ;) <bkerensa> Have to send team reports to the powers in charge <nibalizer> bkerensa: gogoubuntupower <bkerensa> nibalizer: something like that <bkerensa> tgm4883: : can I pm? <tgm4883> bkerensa, sure <bkerensa> tgm4883: Oh I was just going to ask if you had to rent a car when you went to UDS? <tgm4883> bkerensa, nope <bkerensa> I just got a e-mail from Canonical today <bkerensa> ;0 <tgm4883> yea, I wouldn't bother renting a car. Did you get sponsored? <bkerensa> tgm4883: Yeah I'm sponsored and I just sent a e-mail to the travel agency <tgm4883> Sweet <bkerensa> ikr <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> So yea, they reimburse you for travel expenses (in my case, a checked bag and transportation to/from the airport to the hotel) <bkerensa> tgm4883: oh for the travel when you get there? But the plane and hotel they pay for in advance yes? <tgm4883> yep <bkerensa> oh ok :P <bkerensa> so long as I dont have to pony up over a grand to go to Oakland in two months time <tgm4883> nah, I had to do about 125 <bkerensa> tgm4883: thats nothing big <bkerensa> :D <tgm4883> yea not too bad <bkerensa> tgm4883: UDS has breakfast and lunch or no? not sure how they run their conf compared to others <bkerensa> ;p <tgm4883> bkerensa, sorry, had to go to work <tgm4883> yes they provide breakfast and lunch <tgm4883> and a per diem for dinner <c_smith> hyello <c_smith> bkerensa, I'm installing GIMP to prepare for making that logo, would you Email me the specs you wanted to aim for? #ubuntu-us-or 2012-03-09 <bkerensa> nathwill: I'm going to have to be out here tomorrow to meet my landlord because he needs to check a hole in the wall of our kitchen that I found behind fridge and look at some other things.... I'm going to try and reschedule tomorrows thing with blkperl <c_smith> bkerensa, did you get my Email? <bkerensa> c_smith: sorry no I have not had a chance I have been busy with other things and will respond when I can <c_smith> ok, do it at your convenience. <c_smith> also waiting on JVLB to see the same Email. <c_smith> hmmm. a hole in the wall behind your fridge? that doesn't sound good. <c_smith> and why does that remind me of a Pink Floyd song? * c_smith goes back to customizing Kubuntu <bkerensa> c_smith: just responded to you both with the info <c_smith> bkerensa, thanks, I just saw it in the midst of setting up Cairo Dock. <c_smith> bkerensa, are we good to go to use the Linbit logo? <c_smith> *Linbit font <bkerensa> c_smith: Yes for the purpose of the sponsorship of course <bkerensa> and per my reply just now.... We do not need to seek any permission to use any of the Ubuntu Logo or Wordmark <c_smith> cool <bkerensa> this should never be a problem or need consent if you are using it to advocate <c_smith> yeah. cool <bkerensa> Permitted use <bkerensa> Certain usages of the Trademarks are fine and no specific permission from us is needed. <bkerensa> Community advocacy. Ubuntu is built by, and largely for, its community. We share access to the Trademarks with the entire community for the purposes of discussion, development and advocacy. We recognise that most of the open source discussion and development areas are for non-commercial purposes and will allow the use of the trademarks in this context, provided: <Guest16781> bkerensa, ping! <bkerensa> hello albrigha <c_smith> bkerensa, I'm looking at sizes of the banners, there's 3 sizes. <c_smith> 24"x48", 26"x72", and 26"x120" <c_smith> which is the size you are aiming for? <bkerensa> c_smith: 24x48 <c_smith> kk <c_smith> hmmmm, they have an online editor. <c_smith> bkerensa, also, one last question: do you want all 3 logos in there? <bkerensa> c_smith: just the Ubuntu Oregon one <c_smith> ok, I'll end up having to use the online editor, as there seems to be no way to upload an ready made banner image made with Gimp. <c_smith> or should I start looking at other sites? <bkerensa> why dont you check for other sites <bkerensa> and see if there are some ones that allow upload and are not to expensive <c_smith> ok <c_smith> bkerensa, I've
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