#lubuntu-devel 2016-01-01 <adueppen> well I'm finally getting around to testing if the hang on reboot bugs affect kubuntu (flocculant already confirmed that it affects ubuntu) so we'll see if my computer can actually handle a kubuntu VM <phillw> wxl: Kamilion did they reach a decision? <Kamilion> ? <Kamilion> on? <phillw> Kamilion: A1 release, or not... <Kamilion> I honestly have no idea, I've been getting run around all day <phillw> well, approaching 01:00 1st Jan 2016 here. So I will take my leave. Kamilion enjoy your NYE :) <Kamilion> hm? <Kamilion> oh, crap, it's going to be next year soon. <Kamilion> aye, happy new year to ye as well <Kamilion> Sorry, I was in the middle of closing 117 tabs in chrome... <.< <Kamilion> down to 156 now :D <phillw> killall google-chrome-stable <phillw> can handle that for you <phillw> he he he <tsimonq2> Command not found: Did you mean google-chrome-unstable? <tsimonq2> he he he <phillw> tsimonq2: depends if you are running what lubuntu installs, in which case it would be killall chromium-browser <tsimonq2> :D <phillw> you will find the sense of humour chip removed when issuing killall commands. But, they are safer than blindly issuing kill -9 commands. <Kamilion> phillw: hm? <Kamilion> ... Do you ALWAYS use a sledgehammer where a toothpick will do?! <Kamilion> phillw: Come out from the dark ages! http://tabsoutliner.com <phillw> Kamilion: with chromium? I just pkill it... It gets carried away with failbook etc. But that is a topic for discussion away from here as lubuntu have switched back to the fox :) <Kamilion> I hit the little green X to 'freeze' a tab in tabsoutliner. <Kamilion> I currently have 11144 tabs open in my chrome session <Kamilion> all but 55 are frozen. <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/mfkuc/8f6e918b57.jpg <Kamilion> just being able to drag sort trees of tabs is enough to satiate me <adueppen> wxl: when you say "generalize the master to refer to all flavors" what exactly do you mean by that? <adueppen> well I forgot to plug in my laptop so it went into sleep mode anyway <adueppen> whoever is doing that DDoS on the BNC4free melon server needs to stop. <adueppen> did I miss anything? <ianorlin> adueppen: no not really <adueppen> ianorlin: oh good. the logs aren't updated yet so I wasn't sure <adueppen> would anyone here know what wxl meant when he said "generalize the master to refer to all flavors" in reference to improving a bug report? #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-02 <flexiondotorg> wxl I see you're running the show fir Alpha 1 :-) <phillw> flexiondotorg: well he was... seems to have gone AWOL :P <wxl> adueppen: did you need something besides wondering what i meant by master as it relates to bugs? <adueppen> wxl: well I ended up marking both of those 2 bugs as duplicates of another that was reported earlier and flavor-agnostic <wxl> adueppen: that's good. the one that it's a duplicate of is the master. so that's what i meant <adueppen> wxl: oh wasn't quite sure with that <wxl> adueppen: i try not to jargon people up, but even i fail sometimes :) <adueppen> wxl: some of it was that I didn't get around to looking it up. I do the same thing to my parents, so it's no big deal <tsimonq2> lol <phillw> hi flexiondotorg and everyone else... anyone know where we're up to? <tsimonq2> phillw: attempting to get Alpha 1 ready for Monday <phillw> well, having it frozen and as an A1 is progress :) <phillw> flexiondotorg: just starting a 1st mate iso test... not sure how many other testers are available to help out. <flexiondotorg> phillw, Hi <flexiondotorg> I've done some testing today, but not completed the forms yet. <flexiondotorg> Looking good. <flexiondotorg> Some minor stuff but nothing release critical so far. <phillw> hiyas flexiondotorg just updating the iso. amd 64.... as I need to reset my VM, is a full install test of help? <flexiondotorg> I'm going to do some more testing tomorrow and complete the test cases. <flexiondotorg> Full install works. <flexiondotorg> oem install would be more instersting :-) <flexiondotorg> In that I've not done one yet. <flexiondotorg> phillw, Many thank for helping out. <phillw> flexiondotorg: well, I'll let you know if the test case is ballesd up :P <phillw> I'll have to follow the test case by the letter.. <phillw> flexiondotorg: I'm a good boi... <phillw> phillw@piglet:~/Desktop/ISOs$ sudo lvcreate -L 15G -n m-xenial64 phillwvol <phillw> Logical volume "m-xenial64" created. <phillw> flexiondotorg: what is minimum RAM for MATE? <flexiondotorg> 512MB <flexiondotorg> But 1GB is better. <phillw> omnly want to do an install :) <phillw> xubuntu / ubuntu start to stutter at 512 as install.... ubiquity is a bitch, but this is oem.. so new area. <phillw> flexiondotorg: a question... if it is an OEM install, why I am going back to 'try before installing' ? <phillw> ahh, that seems to be the way..... <phillw> I've read it now.... I cannot write CD's via a VM.. Sorry. #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-03 <phillw> flexiondotorg: it boots back up and has a link to "Prepare for shipping to end user". <phillw> hmm... oem config will run on next boot... <phillw> flexiondotorg: I dunno about the test case, but as for setting the machine up so the next person to turn it on has all the annoying questions answered. Yes, it works (I've seen this when I installed my pi2 :P ) <phillw> So, you can tick it for me... as for burning to cd / dvd etc., I do not see that burning a cd / dvd being a relevant test case... But, that's for me. <adueppen> although this is a bit late, a warning I can give is that MATE with 512MB RAM leaves firefox unusable <phillw> adueppen: that is not a test case :) <phillw> you need to look at what is the minimum spec that each flavour says it will run at. <phillw> adueppen: flexiondotorg advised me 1GB <adueppen> phillw: I know, but sometimes I've needed to open up FF to put something on paste.ubuntu.com <adueppen> so I would recommend 1GB <phillw> as did he.. <adueppen> phillw: that's why I said "although this is a bit late" at the beginning :P <phillw> You *can* run lubuntu on 256 MB, but it's going to be very crippled <phillw> adueppen: look on the bright side of life.... <wxl> yoz <phillw> wxl: ?!! <phillw> wxl: no respins due? <wxl> not yet phillw but cjwatson said the tasksel issue may be fixed if anyone wants to test. <wxl> i'm still trying to figure out whether or not we're releasing monday or thursday <tsimonq2> wxl: like I have said before, if I were you, I would prepare as if it is Monday <wxl> tsimonq2: i thought i'd give infinity the oportunity to save his untarnished reutation for ONE day ;) <tsimonq2> wxl: hm? <tsimonq2> wxl: what do you mean by that? :P <wxl> tsimonq2: oh just poking fun at the fact that he decided monday was was the 7th <phillw> wxl: alt lubuntu installed fine :) <teward> so all's better now, phillw? :P <phillw> teward: seems so :) <teward> cool. <phillw> flexiondotorg: not sure why you re-spun, but the two tests i did show that ubiquity is not broken :) <flexiondotorg> phillw, Respun because we need a meta package update. <flexiondotorg> phillw, A patent encumbered something had slipped in and it needed removing. <flexiondotorg> Thanks for re-testing. <flexiondotorg> I've done all the tests again too. <flexiondotorg> wxl, How you getting on? <wxl> great flexiondotorg ! <wxl> glad you're here as there's been a question i had for you <flexiondotorg> Shoot. <wxl> namely i remember you saying something about needing to change something on the pi image to make it work with an hdmi to vga/dvi adapter <wxl> or am i remember something wrong? <wxl> redwolf: well, i would be happy to help in the future with general server admin if you want <redwolf> thank you, wxl <wxl> redwolf: not trying to blow my own horn, but i did manage to figure out the impossible problem with the moin email config on the linuxpadawan server :) <wxl> sometimes having another pair of eyes is helpful <wxl> i can't see how you losing ftp access would have anything to do with the wordpress install <flexiondotorg> wxl, The new 15.10.1 image now used the same defaults as Raspbian. <wxl> oops have i been chatting on the wrong freaking channel again? <flexiondotorg> The magic config in /boot/config.txt is hdmi_drive <wxl> aigh * wxl facepalms <redwolf> yes, wxl :) <flexiondotorg> If you are connected via HDMI only and getting no sound the hdmi_drive=2 is the fix. <wxl> flexiondotorg: so what you're saying is 15.10.1 is good to go as is? <flexiondotorg> If you're using a DVI or VGA to HDMI adapter, 15.10.1 *should* work OOTB. <flexiondotorg> If not, tinker with /boot/config.txt. The version I ship is fully documented. <wxl> ok i'll let you know what i discover <wxl> what's the best way to get a hold of you? email? <wxl> flexiondotorg: what do we need to do to get a .1 lubuntu image? <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org <wxl> oh duh flexiondotorg :) <flexiondotorg> ;-) <wxl> flexiondotorg: so if i have any neeed for help or would like to supply feedback, is there a mailing list or anything? <flexiondotorg> Well, for Ubuntu MATE, we have a category in our forum. <flexiondotorg> For Lubuntu phillw said to point people to this channel. <flexiondotorg> But, I agree, we need a common place for people to seek support and supply their feedback. <flexiondotorg> I've been active in the Pi community for a while, so I'm qualified to say. A mailing list is not the solution ;-) <flexiondotorg> Neither is IRC really. <wxl> *I* certainly prefer mailing lists <wxl> fwiw :) <flexiondotorg> I could investigate running a Discourse instance for Ubuntu Pi Flavour Maker. <flexiondotorg> And add a Category for each flavour. <wxl> in the interim, you could always open ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers up to the general public for anyone interested in development and such and use the mailing list on lp <wxl> oh and you only have torrents available <flexiondotorg> wxl, Yeah, good idea. <flexiondotorg> wxl, Yes. <wxl> phillw: you might want to grab the torrent of lubuntu 15.10.1 off of https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/download/ and put it on phillw.net <flexiondotorg> wxl Read the last entry in the FAQ on the site to find out why. <flexiondotorg> wxl, It's already there. <phillw> wxl: http://phillw.net/isos/pi2/ <phillw> :P <flexiondotorg> phillw, Set me up an account and I've sync all the images there. <wxl> flexiondotorg: you can also add amy08@example.org as a support place <flexiondotorg> It is also one of the webseeds for the torrent :-) <wxl> well nice phillw !!!! * phillw is a good boi :D <phillw> wxl: flexiondotorg looks after keeping it updated, saves him having to ask me to do updates. <wxl> nice phillw <wxl> good job both of you :) <phillw> the phillw/isos area can take many teams, I just give them a /home/team area do a hard link in /var/www/html/phillw.net/isos and tell SEL to allow the httpd to access the /home /team area <flexiondotorg> wxl, lubuntu-devel ML added to FAQ. <wxl> thank you sir <flexiondotorg> Most welcome. <flexiondotorg> wxl, So it is just Ubuntu MATE and Lubuntu doing Alpha 1? <flexiondotorg> Are you guys all set? <flexiondotorg> I'm going to smoke test on PowerPC but everything looks good to me. <phillw> we look ready except for ppc <wxl> kylin too flexiondotorg <wxl> wait hold on <flexiondotorg> wxl, I was never able to get feedback from kylin. <wxl> omg i'm a moron <wxl> i emailed the gnome team instead of you flexiondotorg <wxl> but it's irrelevant, you're already on top of things :) <flexiondotorg> Kn1tram. <wxl> i'm doing checklist tracking this milestone, so keep me updated on the statsu of testing, include link to notes on the /XenialXerus/Alpha1 page <wxl> flexiondotorg: added link to phillw's mirror and the official Ubuntu Pi Flavor Maker on our Testing News section https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#News <flexiondotorg> Cool! <phillw> nice :) <wxl> you're ready to go then flexiondotorg ? <wxl> k <wxl> i'm still working on hours <flexiondotorg> wxl see #ubuntu-release <flexiondotorg> Heck, probably better here. If for no other reason than to confuse wxl ;-) <flexiondotorg> Which Lubuntu miage should I test on PPC? <flexiondotorg> Rerturning the favour phillw :-) <wxl> well alternate and destop flexiondotorg <phillw> flexiondotorg: can you do the alternate. I need a cd sized one for my elderly mac (it doesn't have dvd drive) <wxl> the ones that are on the tracker suffice it to say :) <phillw> just a full install :) <wxl> flexiondotorg: this is what i meant to send directly to you https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-January/003497.html <flexiondotorg> Only alternate listed here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/ <wxl> flexiondotorg: s/daily/daily-live/ <wxl> that's how they differentiate between them for whatever reason <flexiondotorg> Downloading both for PPC... <flexiondotorg> wxl, phillw Well Lubuntu alternate for PPC fits on a CD :-) <phillw> flexiondotorg: that is the reason we maintain alternate images. The ubiquity ones are now DVD / USB sized, not all kit can use them to boot. <flexiondotorg> Still testing Ubuntu MATE but making CD and DVD for Lubuntu <flexiondotorg> wxl, phillw Lubuntu Alternate on PPC doesn't boot :-( <flexiondotorg> Doesn't __start() the kernel. <flexiondotorg> Tried again and worked :-) <wxl> flexiondotorg: that is bizarre <flexiondotorg> Old hardware <wxl> yeah i guess that's a thing :/ <ianorlin> Actually my pci ethernet adapter works amd 64 so well I am being lazy and not switching back to the fancier gigabit intel one on my motherboard <flexiondotorg> phillw, wxl Lubuntu 16.04 Alpha 1 Alternate installed and works on my iBook G4 PPC :-) <wxl> flexiondotorg: excellent thank you!!! <phillw> great news! #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-04 <flexiondotorg> phillw, wxl Lubuntu Desktop 16.04 Alpha 1 Desktop Live session is a pass. <flexiondotorg> Started the install and going to bed. <wxl> flexiondotorg: are these just spot checks or did you complete an official testcast? <flexiondotorg> I'll update the tracker with that last test in the morning. <flexiondotorg> wxl In Live I made sure all applications luanched. <wxl> excellent, flexiondotorg, thanks! <wxl> have a great night <flexiondotorg> wxl, phillw Lubuntu 16.04 Alpha 1 desktop on PPC installed and works. Didn't reboot after the install. See the tracker for details. <flexiondotorg> Night. <wxl> flexiondotorg: night and thank you <wxl> my first 15.10.1 pi image resulted in a kernel image <wxl> which is strange <wxl> mahhybe i should format first * wxl is happy to report he's installing lubuntu on his pi2 with his hdmi to vga adpater! <tsimonq2> wxl: ooh! are you gonna use that with Photoshop and Windows, or to develop an iPhone app with Mac OS X? XD <tsimonq2> wxl: bugs 1370707, 1497604, 1516454, 1530601, 1527900, 1530548, 1447038, 1480711, 1530735, and 1530383 have been reported on the tracker but not on the wiki page, I wanted to pass these to you because you seem to have it organized well <tsimonq2> can anyone confirm? <wxl> then get them on there tsimonq2 :) <tsimonq2> wxl: ok :) <wxl> !info apt xenial <wxl> !info apt trusty <ubot93> apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.1.10 (xenial), package size 957 kB, installed size 3161 kB <ubot93> apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.1ubuntu2.10 (trusty), package size 930 kB, installed size 3493 kB <wxl> if you can take care of the other cases with powerpc, that would be fab. 1 alternate, 2 desktop. thanks a ton in advance! <wxl> can anyone support or refute this strange claim that there's no sound in xenial? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1530601 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1530601 in Lubuntu Artwork "No sound on lubuntu daily 3/1/2016" [Undecided,New] <flexiondotorg> wxl, phillw You might want to test this one on Lubuntu - http://launchpad.net/bugs/1530323 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1530323 in Ubuntu Kylin "The input box for IP doesn't appear correctly in the edit window of Wired connection" [Undecided,New] <flexiondotorg> Kylin spotted it, also affects Ubuntu MATE. <phillw> wxl tsimonq2 I *think* that is all the bugs listed, in their correct place, on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Alpha1/Lubuntu if some one can check for typos :D <phillw> flexiondotorg: you may want to have a quick scout to make sure our teams haven't forgotten any! <flexiondotorg> phillw, Looks consistent. <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530548 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1530548 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "passphrase input-box for encrypted disk is not shown" [Critical,Confirmed] <flexiondotorg> For cryptsetup ^^^^ in my notes. <phillw> flexiondotorg: both bugs still there in xenial? <flexiondotorg> I think 1530548 is a dupe of 1359689 <phillw> So https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689 needs it's description amended to show affecting xenial ? <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged] <flexiondotorg> Maybe. <flexiondotorg> I saw the comments towards the end got a bit, ermm. <flexiondotorg> So, decided to dodge it because it was late. <flexiondotorg> phillw, Based on my Lubuntu PPC testing do you think wxl will be OK will releasing the PowerPC images for Lubuntu? <flexiondotorg> The release team are asking after their status. <phillw> yeah, the boot :) <phillw> *they* <phillw> everything else is a non-critical bug :P <phillw> flexiondotorg: he has a habit of over sleeping when it comes the day to mark things a ready!!!! <phillw> *as ready* <flexiondotorg> I'm talking with release team. <phillw> we're good to go on all candidates, the release notes are now also good to go. <phillw> flexiondotorg: I've pinged Julien, to see if he is available. <flexiondotorg> OK, But I think the images are been released. <phillw> okies :) <wxl> we're officially released everyone! <phillw> wxl: good to see you awake!! :D <wxl> phillw: well i've been awake but it's been kind of nuts over here <wxl> whole town is covered in ice <wxl> which made the whole morning go up in flames, to put it figuratively <wxl> when i wasn't dealing with trying not to die while getting to work, i was trying to get the release announcement out <wxl> i'm about ready to go to the mailing lists <wxl> phillw: you know why that ubiquity bug is under ppc in our release notes? <phillw> wxl: because it is flagged a bug with PPC :) <wxl> oh <wxl> well it's a general ubiquity bug from what i gathered <wxl> which is why i had it up there <wxl> it affects everything, including ppc <phillw> ppc people don't read intel / amd bugs :P <wxl> :/ <phillw> and vice-versa <wxl> so it should be in both places then <wxl> and for that matter most of those bugs that are in the general section should be in ppc :) <phillw> feel free to add it :) <phillw> Shared is just that, lxde stuff is also across all three... If you'd like a re-jig of the release notres, now's a good time to say so that we take the template forward. PPC has been missing for a while :D <wxl> i have a solution to this <phillw> I like solutiuons :). I'll go and start the announces until the wolf comes on line. <wxl> are you going to do the mailing list? <phillw> no, social media and add in the "get me from" to the release notes. <wxl> do you want me to do the mailing list first so you can link to that? <phillw> wxl: the link was already there, just would have reported a 404 :P <wxl> no i meant a link to the post on lubuntu-devel and/or lubuntu-users phillw <phillw> if you do mML's, I'll do Fb and G+ <wxl> phillw: i just added a more general section to ppc that we can keep in the template. it explains only lts is supported, that the bugs before likely affect ppc, and a reference to the ppc faq <phillw> wxl: sounds like plan :) <wxl> phillw: added comments to clarify my idea <phillw> wxl: redwolf has done the other media channels :) <redwolf> yes, Blog, Twitter and Reddit <wxl> i got distracted by a rather enlightening ppc conversation <wxl> but i'm almost done with the mailing list mail <wxl> sent * wxl notes that his official announcement to ubuntu-devel-announce is funny <phillw> wxl: KISS... <phillw> Hi folks, the 1st milestone release of what will be our 16.04 LTS is now out in the wild. I'm only posting the release notes link, as it is important you know of issues (none are computer critical) so that you don't waste your time reporting an issue we already know of. If you find new issues, please follow the reporting section at the bottom of the notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Alpha1/Lubuntu <wxl> heheheh <redwolf> pinned in FB, phillw <phillw> That's what I've posted. At least they HAVE to go to the page to get the d/l link :P <redwolf> yup, me too. linked there. <phillw> This "here's the d/l page... please read............. "and, they're gone! <wxl> "You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a <wxl> cuter outfit." <wxl> - Sarah Jessica Parker <wxl> Our own squirrel, Xenial Xerus (to become 16.04 LTS), should be much better <wxl> than your average rat. You can see for yourself, as Alpha 1 has now been <wxl> released! <redwolf> Sarah Jessica Parker is a horse <wxl> heheh <redwolf> everybody knows that. she too, when she buys tones porridge. <phillw> The invasive family of Xerus, is indeed vermin in the countries it was introduced to. Much like the American Gray squirrel here in the UK <redwolf> but you can pet squirrels, they're like dogs! <phillw> Manuel had a pet 'desert hampster' and I knew the albino lab rats amy08@example.org... Tame as anything. <phillw> wxl: I'm really excited that the alt ppc image is installable. So, you know where your next pay check is going... Shipping out the PPC's to testers! <wxl> yes, dear! <phillw> With the fesitivites out of the way. I'll get the forms scanned for Julien that i can email, and the set I need to post to you sorted out this week. Then Rafael can start work on the donate page. <wxl> i still haven't seen mine <wxl> if i'm supposed to <wxl> does it go to julien first? <phillw> wxl: no, his will be emailed after the French PS lost them and I had to order replacements. Yours has to be posted as it already has the wolf's and my signatures on it. <wxl> phillw: okie dokie. i await patiently <phillw> it will be arriving par avion <wxl> redwolf: can you make me admin at ~lubuntu-desktop please? <wxl> redwolf: among other things, i'd like to kill the lubuntu-desktop mailing list! <wxl> i'm not sure how that's even still there <wxl> time for more coffee <redwolf> sure <redwolf> if I remember how to do that, wxl XD <phillw> lubuntu-desktop was discontinued for lubuntu-users <phillw> I recall seeing the memo!!! <redwolf> anyway, done <redwolf> kill it with fire! <phillw> my kingdom, my kingdom for a CD-RW !!!! <phillw> Where on earth have I put them? :( * tsimonq2 yawns <tsimonq2> is Alpha 1 already good to go? <phillw> tsimonq2: you missed the boat :P <tsimonq2> aww <phillw> wxl: and I dutifully attend to an admin email and the wolf has done it! As you are now an admin, please announce its cessation <tsimonq2> well there's always Alpha 2! :D <wxl> phillw: i am going to get the full archive of the lp mailing lists, find a place to host them, and then deactivate <phillw> tsimonq2: all spins where asccepted, with some help from our friends on MATE <tsimonq2> yay :D <tsimonq2> congrats guys for pulling this off #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-05 <wxl> flexiondotorg phillw hopefully pi2 code coming to 4.5 kernel http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/x-org-drm/840571-raspberry-pi-2-code-getting-ready-for-upstreaming-in-linux-kernel <phillw> Description: Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (development branch) <phillw> so far, so good :) <tsimonq2> phillw: although it is archived, just curious as to why http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109720/testcases/1437/results is blank for bugs... <tsimonq2> wxl: ^ <phillw> tsimonq2: curious about what? <wxl> weird <wxl> phillw: no "bugs to look out for" <wxl> is that on all the images? <tsimonq2> phillw: you reported no bugs when clearly there were some <phillw> tsimonq2: I reported no bugs because it installed and booted. That is what the test case is about. Adding in application tests are a totally different test case area :) <wxl> maybe because it's archived tsimonq2 <tsimonq2> wxl: no, it wouldn;t do that <tsimonq2> phillw: because I have been scolded before by people including you for not including application bugs <wxl> i checked all the daily testcases and they're there <phillw> tsimonq2: e.g. http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1511/revisions/654/info <phillw> tsimonq2: you may like to take some time out to see the new layout of the release notes. It more clearly deliniates between bugs. * tsimonq2 has seen <phillw> however, you should discuss with wxl and not myself. <wxl> if you guys DO look at one of the daily testcases, you'll see that there's a LIST of bugs now <wxl> i think in general it's not a REQUIREMENT to test every bug, but it's certainly somethind we need to do before release <wxl> well, before a milestone <wxl> cuz i use that list of bugs reported to make the release notes * wxl was up late sunday with the virtual machine checking each and every single freaking bug reported <tsimonq2> wxl: mind if I subscribe the Lubuntu Packages Team to all of the bugs reported on the Alpha 1 page? <wxl> tsimonq2: sure, feel free <phillw> wxl: I was flagged up a couple of bugs by flexiondotorg, one that he spotted on MATE and another found by Kylin. <wxl> btw i put a new task on gci for doing the packages <phillw> wxl: the packages do need test cases written. I did start before my departure. <wxl> phillw: is that something you would like to take on? <phillw> wxl: not a wise idea :) <wxl> tsimonq2: if you make a list of all the packages in lubuntu that we need test cases for on the packaging tracker, we can make tasks for each one of those <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll do that next <wxl> tsimonq2: i guess we'll have to make separate tasks for each one <tsimonq2> yeah <phillw> tsimonq2: there is a good start at http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/subscriptions <tsimonq2> I am aware, phillw <tsimonq2> wxl: just Mandatory or Optional? <tsimonq2> Optional as well, that is <wxl> tsimonq2: i guess follow what others do. i would expect that core elements (e.g. lxinput) are more important than others (abiword) <tsimonq2> wxl: well what I am asking is...should I do it? <tsimonq2> I am not wondering about priority <phillw> concentrating on what lx team write and maintain has to be a higher priority than stuff that we use that is maintained by others :) <tsimonq2> phillw: again...not priority <phillw> applications that are fundamental are mandatory... e,g, if pcmanfm does not work, that is a critical bug. If Abiword has a problem with foreign languages, that is irritating and also out of our control, so will never be a critical bug. * tsimonq2 sighs and just makes a list of all of them <wxl> tsimonq2: you get that list? #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-06 <wxl> tsimonq2: here's something to look at: paravirtualization. it can provide support for virtualization on hardware that otherwise couldn't handle it! http://v.gd/Re8Ugf <tsimonq2> wxl: hm <wxl> tsimonq2: might be something to play with at mum's <tsimonq2> wxl: no at dad's where my old computer is <tsimonq2> wxl: I am at mom's now :D <wxl> well you got the general idea, tsimonq2 <wxl> i can't keep track of all your crap <wxl> i can barely keep track of my own!!! XD <wxl> dude why did they have to call it unity? <wxl> wrong channel but there you go XD <butteredpopcorn> the lubuntu 16.04 alpha installer still says 15.10 <MrBIOS> whoops <phillw> butteredpopcorn: it usually does until about beta time :) #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-08 <Esidisi> Hi. <Esidisi> Is this the right channel if I need help? <adueppen> Esidisi: what do you need help with? <krytarik> Esidisi: No, you already asked in the right one for support, #lubuntu. <wxl> can someone confirm bug 1524480 is fixed? <ubot93> bug 1524480 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu Xenial) "package plymouth 0.9.2-3ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524480 <phillw> wxl: I did a full 15.10 --> 16.04 update on 5th Jan. I did catch some complaint, but it went away after I cleared /var/crash and rebooted. There's always at least one complaint when using upgrade. <phillw> adueppen: have you tried an upgrade from a 15.10 to 16.04 ? <adueppen> phillw: I haven't had a chance to try yet because of school <phillw> adueppen: okies, no worries.... I'll try it on a VM <tsimonq2> or we can have our GCI folks do it XD <phillw> or, in ~ 3 weeks time, we get used to doing it our selves <tsimonq2> but let's enjoy it while it lasts, phillw <phillw> wxl: sudo do-release-upgrade -d is now running on a fully updated wily instance <wxl> nice phillw. planning on doing that to my xenial pi2 once i find a decent unused ethernet cable :) <phillw> wxl: we have a xenial for pi2 ?!!!! <wxl> phillw: no, we have a wily, but you can do-release-upgrade it <phillw> wxl: oooooooooohhh.... well that's a fun task for the weekend :D <wxl> phillw: yep. i had it all set up to go the other day when i was in the garage, but the wifi sucked and i was running off my 4G, so i opted to take it inside and give it a go on the ethernet but it didn't connect for some reason and i didn't feel like dragging the monitor and all that stuff inside <phillw> wtf.... my Wily has a separate /boot <phillw> wxl: kvm is currently without its full libs in my 16.04 and cannot create a new VM <phillw> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/1531722 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1531722 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "virt-manager on 16.04 as host does not allow creation of 16.04 virtual machines" [Undecided,Confirmed] <wxl> strange <wxl> i might not be surprised to have that happen from virtualbox but kvm is strange <phillw> wxl: kvm will get fixed, it's what Canonical use :D <phillw> I see a mis-match of libs queued up, that is my guess as to the issue, <phillw> I did manual remove of a lib tonight because it was stopping everything. This usually points to partial upgrades being offered. <wxl> for you screenshotters http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-display-linux-logo-in-bash-terminal-using-screenfetch-linux_logo/ <phillw> wxl: ahh... time will tell, grabbing whole new set of libs <phillw> wxl: nah, still no good. <phillw> wxl: still, I have the Pi2 to play with while I cannot test... #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-09 <phillw> wxl: sudo do-release-upgrade -d aborts on 14.04.... <phillw> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shutter/+bug/1532364 <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1532364 in shutter (Ubuntu) "Shutter silently fails" [Undecided,New] #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-11 <phillw> wxl: bug 1531722 <ubot93> bug 1531722 in libosinfo (Ubuntu) "virt-manager on 16.04 as host does not allow creation of 16.04 or 15.10 virtual machines" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1531722 <phillw> I look forward to it arriving :) <ianorlin> phillw: I agree <phillw> ianorlin: it has arrived :) <ianorlin> I know but actually getting the fix released in your email feels nice <phillw> ianorlin: yeah, comes of subscribing :D <ianorlin> which happens automitically if you report it <phillw> I didn't, only confirmed it :) * ianorlin did <phillw> i did add in the 15.10 bit, though :D <phillw> nice quick squish for laney :) <redwolf> tsimonq2, ping <phillw> redwolf: hmm, no application icon for pcman-qt <redwolf> O.o <redwolf> file-manager? <phillw> yup <redwolf> it should be "file-manager", following XDG guides <phillw> PCManFM File Manager <phillw> in the menu <redwolf> let me check <redwolf> phillw, http://pasteboard.co/ITfmPre.png <redwolf> pcmanfm-qt has an icon assigned <phillw> well, it's not being shown on the lubuntu lxqt in xenial <redwolf> odd <redwolf> screenshot, please <phillw> I'm using Oxygen Icons Theme <redwolf> aha! <redwolf> not my fault then <phillw> which should it be? <redwolf> Oxygen is a baby of Plasma team <redwolf> look at lxqt menus: http://pasteboard.co/ITqtgbl.png <redwolf> we do have icons for almost everything <redwolf> and considering Oxygen is more complete than Box, it's a big "booo" <redwolf> don't worry, Lubuntu will have all core (and lots more) apps covered <phillw> So, which Icons Theme should I be using? There is no entry for lxqt or lubuntu for Icons Theme. <redwolf> O.o? impossibru! if you upgraded with PPA you must choose Lubuntu icon theme <redwolf> Menu / LXQt Configuration / Appearance <redwolf> there're three possible visual tweaks: icons, widgets and desktop theme. there's a Lubuntu theme for icons and desktop. for widgets only via GTK <redwolf> (for now) <phillw> Menu --> Preferences --> LXQt settings --> 'lots of settings'... <redwolf> Appearance <redwolf> There's a "global" control panel <tsimonq2> redwolf: yes? <redwolf> answer to your "bug", tsimonq2 <redwolf> :P <redwolf> oh and... <redwolf> HELLOOO!!! <tsimonq2> HELLOOO!!! <redwolf> :) <phillw> yes, that's where I altered LXQt Theme to lubuntu <redwolf> so you did it? <redwolf> how does it look now? <redwolf> I know, we have to set all this up from startup (both in live and fresh install) <phillw> redwolf: I told you, the swift appeared in lower left for menu :) <redwolf> -__- <tsimonq2> Swift language, anyone? XD <phillw> but I still await lubuntu icons :) <redwolf> O.o <redwolf> phillw? which ones? <phillw> well, one with the pcmanfm for the menu would be nice :P <redwolf> there is one! <redwolf> I showed you the menu screenshot! <redwolf> actually, both pcmanfm and pcmanfm-qt must use the icon "system-file-manager", not one with their names <redwolf> and I'm watching it right now in the "apps" folder inside the theme <redwolf> so THERE IS icon Âº_____Âº <phillw> redwolf: there are loads missing! <redwolf> .__________. <redwolf> I wonder what icon theme you're using. really. <phillw> Which icon theme should i be using?!!! <redwolf> Lubuntu!!!!!! <phillw> no such theme listed. <redwolf> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-icon-theme <redwolf> shit, I must add that as a dependency!! <redwolf> you're HALF right <redwolf> so, phillw? did you install it? <phillw> yes, selected "Lubuntu (Default lubuntu theme)", logged out and back in ... still no pcmanfm icon <phillw> or do you want me to use the transitional one? <redwolf> and why the hell I'm watching it right now in my VM? <redwolf> install "lubuntu-icon-theme" <redwolf> it's not included in "lubuntu-artwork" (and I must fix that) <phillw> redwolf: I DID... how do you think I now see the option of lubuntu under Icon Theme now? <phillw> Lubuntu, Lubuntu Dark and Lubuntu Transitional are the 3 choices I have. I have chosen the Default one. <redwolf> okay, do you see this? http://pasteboard.co/IV5tSuc.png <redwolf> and a silly question, have you added the PPA? <phillw> yes. <phillw> not sure of ppa <redwolf> O.O! <redwolf> anyway, that icon, system-file-manager is old <redwolf> you must see an icon for pcmanfm-qt and the same for pcmanfm. I'm that lazy. both apps use the same icon. like Nautilus, Caja and Nemo. <phillw> add-apt-repository -y ppa:lubuntu-art/daily <redwolf> yesyes <redwolf> a "sudo" would be nice :) <phillw> it was done with sudo -i :P <redwolf> then install again (will overwrite) "lubuntu-icon-theme" <redwolf> BUT you should see that bloody icon without adding any PPA <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Installing_LXQt_on_fresh_system <phillw> lubuntu-icon-theme was not installed. <redwolf> if there's lubuntu-icon-theme package, there must be icon <redwolf> THERE!! <redwolf> then of course you couldn't see any Lubuntu icon theme! <phillw> I added it a few minutes ago at your request and now see the 3 options for lubuntu icons. I chose the default one, logged off and back on... Still no pcmanfm icon <redwolf> impossible <redwolf> please, someone call an exorcist <phillw> actual. <phillw> redwolf: create a VM and follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Installing_LXQt_on_fresh_system <redwolf> I will <phillw> no hiding behind an old lubuntu system for it to fall back on :P <redwolf> not found Âº____Âº <redwolf> okies, grabbed one from /ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot <redwolf> mini.iso, 34mb. is that right? <phillw> yup <redwolf> okies <phillw> the link for the iso works for me. <redwolf> command line install? <redwolf> too late, I'm doing that <phillw> i didn't think it offered any other! <redwolf> yup. "install" O.o <phillw> hmm, well if CLI fails, try install :P <redwolf> XD <redwolf> "retrieving things..." <phillw> yup, it will. It's net-boot :) <phillw> if you ever use it on bare metal, it has to be connected by ethernet cable. No WiFi in net-boot :) <wxl> of course you could make it work if you were enterprising <redwolf> "retrieving more things..." <phillw> yes, probably a kernel! <redwolf> kernels are not essential software! fancy icons are! <redwolf> guess what's doing now... <redwolf> "retrieving" <tsimonq2> LOL redwolf <redwolf> .__. <tsimonq2> "04:51:11 PM < redwolf> kernels are not essential software! fancy icons are!" <redwolf> yer! <tsimonq2> boot off of an svg icon, why don't you? <redwolf> well, you can a webpage entirely with SVG code. doing a kernel is just a matter of patience XD <redwolf> net installers should play porn or something to amuse users in the process <redwolf> or cowsay quotes <phillw> redwolf: how's it progressing? <redwolf> 30% <phillw> yikes! <redwolf> installing now last packages <redwolf> the net is being slow <redwolf> I'll test tomorrow. I'm having problems with the network <redwolf> the mirror <redwolf> or something <redwolf> good night! #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-12 <wxl> flexiondotorg: what's the possibility we can set up some sort of system (perhaps on my own server) to build a daily pi image? <phillw> wxl: please be aware that desktop 32 bit failed to build yesterday... Just noticed as I'm zsyncing up my alt images <wxl> phillw: the new one for today should have just completed <phillw> they were running when I last looked... obviously the alts are well finished :P <wxl> well build time is 1645 and it's an hour past <wxl> redwolf: whuuuuuutup <phillw> wxl: about right for desktops... <wxl> redwolf: i summoned you HERE. :) <redwolf> oh, here :D <wxl> yes dear :) <phillw> ha ha <wxl> so anyways what i was saying is that to replicate the process i took with the pi image (and thus reduce variables), i was thinking about starting with a wily image <wxl> but maybe that's stupid <redwolf> my mystery is why both images I tested, same core, same version, same desktop, differ on package requirements <redwolf> but that's beyond my payload <wxl> are they different dailies though? <wxl> there's got to be something different. did you diff the dpkg.list? <redwolf> one is a full 700mb daily, yes, the other is a daily mini <wxl> well dpkg -l <redwolf> I was going to do that, yes <wxl> well get on it * wxl spanks some motivation into redwolf <redwolf> I'm on it <redwolf> BUT that is not my task! <redwolf> I should only care about fashion desktops, trendy icons, and such faggotry XDD <wxl> i hear the hot thing on the runway this year is DOING TESTING NOW GET ON IT <wxl> XD <redwolf> XDD <wxl> XÃ <redwolf> how do I start a terminal? <redwolf> Âº______Âº <wxl> uhhh huh <wxl> phillw: weird. images are still building. eta in 8m <redwolf> got them: pastebin.ubuntu.com/14479354 <redwolf> pastebin.ubuntu.com/14479355 <redwolf> second one is the screwed one <redwolf> I'm not sure about a diff, the first one is a hybrid LXDE+LXQt <phillw> wxl: indeed, coming up to 90 minutes for desktop build <redwolf> let's see that one <wxl> redwolf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14479506/ <wxl> ugh weird that's mess up hold on <redwolf> the qt plugin is there <wxl> going to have to vim diff <redwolf> what daily is that? Lubuntu Xenial or a mini? <wxl> which what? <wxl> the legend is at the top <wxl> but it's kind of not useful <redwolf> not much <wxl> OH <wxl> one is i386 and one is amd64 dip doo <wxl> the good one is the amd64 <redwolf> yes <wxl> a little awk fixed it up http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14479574/ <wxl> redwolf: so the -'s are from the good one and the +'s are from the bad one with everything else being shared between them <wxl> elementary-icon-theme in the screwed one <wxl> not sure that matters <redwolf> yes <redwolf> neither do I <redwolf> I don't know what's doing that there. we got rid off elementary long time ago <wxl> OH <wxl> interesting <wxl> lubuntu-default-settings is NOT in the screwed one <wxl> no lxappearance <redwolf> that's for LXDE <wxl> lxqt-qtplugin is not in the screwed one <redwolf> exactly <wxl> lubuntu-default-settings is only LXDE? i guess that would make sense <redwolf> Julien says some dependencies are broken in some ISOs <wxl> hm <wxl> phillw: we have images :) <redwolf> I don't know if we already have a pre-settings package like lubuntu-default-settings on LXQt <redwolf> are they cooked? <wxl> hehe yep <wxl> seems to have taken quite a while <redwolf> :) <wxl> oh wait i think i still have a xenial vm laying around <wxl> see i've never done the whole mini.iso thing. i wonder if that isn't the probelm <wxl> man my life will be complete when i can upgrade the hypervisor without stopping virtual machines <redwolf> :D <redwolf> I just want cranberry fanta. easier <wxl> possibly. there's none here <wxl> fanta *_* <redwolf> :D <redwolf> wxl, okay with the new image? <ianorlinqt> hmm is there a reason lubuntu packages team is still subscribed to ace of penguins? <wxl> is it not part of the -desktop seed ianorlinqt ? <wxl> cuz it sure was <ianorlinqt> I think it got dropped to fit on a cd <wxl> i didn't think that was the case <ianorlinqt> it was before trusty I checked the changelog <ianorlinqt> on December 8th 2013 <ianorlinqt> unless it is still in there for powerpc <ianorlinqt> which would be wierd <ianorlinqt> I think 13.10 was the last version to ship it <tsimonq2> OOH it's qt little ianorlin XD <phillw> anyone use vbox for testing? <phillw> ahh, hold that thought..... wrong bug! <phillw> nope.... bug 1447038 not affecting KVM now. <ubot93> bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox, KVM or VMWare" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038 #lubuntu-devel 2016-01-13 <tsimonq2> wxl: what is the deal with the lubuntu package set? <wxl> huh, tsimonq2 ? <tsimonq2> wxl: I am curious as to who owns the lubuntu package set...reading some docs and it says that they aren't owned <wxl> i don't know what you're referring to, frankly <tsimonq2> wxl: in the Ubuntu archives there are package sets. Lubuntu has one. Nobody owns it, addording to the docs I am reading. <tsimonq2> *according <wxl> i don't know what to dell you, personally <tsimonq2> wxl: idk, just looking and was wondering <wxl> multiarch is weird, man. <tsimonq2alt> hey guys :D <wxl> hey tsimonq2 <tsimonq2alt> I'll be in and out, but here :) <teward> tsimonq2alt: so you pinged me and don't check your messages after the fact * wxl hopes and prays virtualbox-5.0:amd64 does not die <teward> weird <teward> wxl: that would be a headache if it dies, yes :/ <tsimonq2alt> teward: I am using webchat at school and I don't have access to backlog right now...sorry <tsimonq2alt> be back in like ~ 30 minutes for the meeting <tsimonq2alt> o/ <wxl> teward: i just went multiarch, so things are a little weird. <teward> wxl: heheh <wxl> redwolf: hey. let's talk about that image. whatcha wanna know? <wxl> ok qemu-kvm:amd64 is installed <wxl> let's see how snappy is behaving <wxl> bummer. my process can't handle kvm extensions <teward> by 'process' you mean VBox? <teward> if so you have to expose extensions to the guest <wxl> sorry i mean my processor <teward> ah <wxl> well, at least there's virtualbox :/ <teward> heh <teward> if that fails, VMware PLayer <teward> :P <wxl> confusing thing about multiarch: if you apt-cache policy some package, it wont' give you results for all archs. instead you have to be explicit <teward> this is true * wxl needs to figure out port redirection on virtualbox, if that's even an option <teward> wxl: aka port forwarding aka nat? <wxl> hm yes i guess so <wxl> aw man i don't want to mess with nat * wxl whines <teward> virtual network settings of the NAT virtual adapter, set your rules there <teward> VMware I have to do it by hand lol <wxl> oh well at least that's not so bad <teward> wxl: you may have to do an additional iptables NAT ruleset for forwarding from the ccomputer itself to the vNAT <teward> but i usually don't worry about that (I bridged-connection everything xD) <teward> (for those cases) <wxl> oh actually nat is the default oh ho this is easy :) <joern_s> hi all <wxl> hey jÃ¶rn! <sudodus> Hi jÃ¶rn and everybody else <wxl> we'll get started in 5 minutes or so <redwolf> 7!! <joern_s> hi wxl sudodus redwolf <joern_s> :D <redwolf> \o/ joern_s <tsimonq2alt> I'm back, has it started yet? <wxl> not yet <wxl> i have one last thing to do and we'll get started <tsimonq2alt> oh ok :) <tsimonq2alt> alright <redwolf> yes, tsimonq2. it's over now. sorry <redwolf> Â·_____Â· <tsimonq2alt> LOL redwolf <wxl> phone now. give me a minute <tsimonq2alt> k :) <tsimonq2alt> I have to meet with my teacher about my passion project quick, so I will be back in ~ 7 minutes <phillw> o/ <redwolf> o/ phillw <sudodus> o/ phillw <tsimonq2alt> (have some time before we meet) <tsimonq2alt> o/ phillw <tsimonq2alt> hey sudodus, haven't met you before, what's up? <joern_s> hi phillw <tsimonq2alt> same with joern_s, hey! :) <phillw> greetings joern_s and sudodus :) <sudodus> hey tsimonq2 <tsimonq2alt> will gilir be attending? <joern_s> hi tsimonq2alt <wxl> ok i'm here <tsimonq2alt> o/ :) <tsimonq2alt> heyyyyy wxl <wxl> msg'd gilir so we'll see <tsimonq2alt> and now she wants to meet...bbs <sudodus> o/ <teward> *lurks because he can* <wxl> #startmeeting Lubuntu Monthly Meeting <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jan 13 19:08:27 2016 UTC. The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick * meetingology changed the topic of #lubuntu-devel to: Lubuntu QA/Development | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/QA | Support: #lubuntu, Chat: #lubuntu-offtopic | new mailing list! http://lists.ubuntu.com/lubuntu-devel | Lubuntu Monthly Meeting | Current topic: <wxl> welcome everyone to our regular monthly meeting <wxl> please remember our meetings are every month on the 2nd wednesday @ 1900 utc, right here <wxl> you can see the agenda here: <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda <wxl> so first thing's first <wxl> #topic QA * meetingology changed the topic of #lubuntu-devel to: Lubuntu QA/Development | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/QA | Support: #lubuntu, Chat: #lubuntu-offtopic | new mailing list! http://lists.ubuntu.com/lubuntu-devel | Lubuntu Monthly Meeting | Current topic: QA <wxl> we were one of three flavors (along with mate and kylin) to release an alpha 1 <wxl> largely, it was successful with no real terrible showstoppers <wxl> and i'm happy to report that we have managed to kill some of the bugs already <wxl> as you can see on the release schedule: <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule <wxl> alpha 2 is january 28 <wxl> i.e. before our next meeting <wxl> so if people want to test, plan on getting going on the 26th <wxl> i also have some stuff to report regarding lxqt <wxl> at least as it relates to testing (i'll leave the discussion of development to joern_s later) <wxl> we now have a page for general stuff on lxqt: <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt <wxl> instructions are now up on how to install it in a xenial image <wxl> in fact, i took the raspberry pi2 wily image that flexiondotorg created with ubuntu pi flavor maker <wxl> do-release-upgraded it to xenial <wxl> and then installed lxqt <wxl> here's some proof: <wxl> https://twitter.com/wxl/status/686236582005837825 <joern_s> very nice! <wxl> we're still at the point where we're doing exploratory testing, but we're filing bugs small and large against both the lubuntu-next project and the associated source package since they're in the repos <wxl> meanwhile, i'm starting to do some work on getting testcases developer for the iso/package trackers with a little bit of help from tsimonq2alt <wxl> if anyone wants in on that whole process, let me know, as there's a bunch of work to do and we could use some help <wxl> i also tried to make it easier for everyone to find the blueprints related to answering the question of which apps we're going to use in lxqt <wxl> but i assigned them to lubuntu-next which is not configured for blueprints so you can't see them :/ <wxl> i'm trying to get gilir to help out with that, so will report to the mailing list when they're ready and we can start the discussion in earnest <tsimonq2alt> o/ <wxl> tsimonq2alt: question? <tsimonq2alt> nope, just back, sorry for interrupting <wxl> and that's about all i think i have for qa unless there are questions or comments from anyone? <tsimonq2alt> and yes, I am helping a bit with getting the testcases done <tsimonq2alt> just to decentralize the test cases for LXQty <tsimonq2alt> *LXQt <tsimonq2alt> also, when is Alpha 2, wxl? <wxl> tsimonq2alt: i said it above (jan 28) <teward> wxl: stupid question but did they solve the headaches of the tasksel thing on alt? Not sure if they did for here or if that was an issue, but checking 'cause Server was affected (so potentially alts were too?) <tsimonq2alt> whoops sorry :) <phillw> teward: yes <teward> wonderful, i had that on my list of QA tests but never had time :) <teward> thank you. *silences for remainder of time* <wxl> np <wxl> ok i'm going to move onto the next topic then <wxl> #topic donation area * meetingology changed the topic of #lubuntu-devel to: Lubuntu QA/Development | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/QA | Support: #lubuntu, Chat:
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