#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-01
<dholbach> good morning
<Phoenix87> hallo
<Phoenix87> just wondering if all the ubuntu app showdown t-shirts have already been shipped, because I haven't received mine yet. any news?
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-02
<dholbach> good morning
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-03
<cwayne> hello all
<ajmitch> hi cwayne
<ajmitch> mhall119: I'm sorry I didn't get you those build system stats, getting the info morphed into something a bit more complicated
<cwayne> ajmitch: heya, hows it goin?
<ajmitch> cwayne: good thanks, how are you?
<cwayne> ajmitch: not bad thanks
<cwayne> just waitin for 1 more vote to get my app accepted :)
<ajmitch> pretty sure that I voted on your one :)
<mhall119> ajmitch: would it be easier to get a rough estimate rather than exact numbers?
<cwayne> ajmitch: haha, well in that case, thanks!
<ajmitch> mhall119: could be, I ended up starting on something to view the queue & run arb-lint, licensecheck, etc across the lot & show it
<ajmitch> bad feature creep, I know :)
<mhall119> heh
<ajmitch> I'll get rough stats to you asap then
<cwayne> are you guys looking for help QA-ing apps?
<ajmitch> mostly with reviewing & fixing packaging, license checks, all the boring bits :)
 * ajmitch thought there was a post on the mailing list about what we'd like people to help with
<ajmitch> but basically, until we get a more automated process for packaging in place, we expect app authors to submit a source packages either in a branch or a PPA, it should pass checks such as those found in arb-lint, it must have appropriate copyright documentation in debian/copyright
<ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/arb-lint is the tool used along with lintian
<cwayne> hmm, i may be able to help with that, although most of my expertise would be QA
<cwayne> i would like to help though, i figure you guys are pretty swamped since the app showdown ajmitch
<ajmitch> yeah, swamped with that & for other reasons
<cwayne> ajmitch: yeah :/
<cwayne> it's definitely quite frustrating at times
<ajmitch> sorry
<cwayne> ajmitch: heh don't be, you got me one of my 2 votes :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-04
<edo9k> Hi
<edo9k> I'm looking for some advice
<edo9k> I'm looking for a screen saver for ubuntu, with RSS support.
<edo9k> can anyone give a pointer on this?
<ajmitch> dholbach: just to distract you, I've got a change to apps-brancher so it works with the current myapps :)
<ajmitch> since the scraping didn't work, all the apps are in one json string in the page
<dholbach> ajmitch, ah awesome - can you submit a merge proposal?
<ajmitch> yeah, it's fairly minimal change
 * ajmitch was using that for a list which will have (once working) arb-lint & licensecheck run over the queue, I'm tyring to make it look like the sponsoring list sorted by last response time
<ajmitch> I know this'll be obsoleted by whatever new process comes along in a few months :)
<dholbach> awesome
 * dholbach hugs ajmitch
<cwayne> dholbach: hello
<dholbach> hi cwayne
<cwayne> dholbach: heya, i was just wondering if you happened to remember what you needed to change on unity-lens-vm?  i feel that i'll probably have to make the same changes to my new lens
<cwayne> oh or is the branch still active, i could just look at that i suppose :)
<dholbach> no, I don't remember
<dholbach> it's been a while :)
<cwayne> dholbach: heh, no worries :) (thanks again for the help btw!)
<ajmitch> you want to find wendar or coolbhavi to vote on it
<ajmitch> iirc you pinged the list about it a few days ago?
<wendar> cwayne: hi, sorry, been meaning to double check and make sure I voted on that one
<ajmitch> hi wendar :)
<wendar> hi ajmitch :)
<ajmitch> sorry, didn't really mean to disturb you from work
<wendar> no worries
<wendar> I haven't been having much luck getting the DMB to post our Launchpad vote
<wendar> though, I got a lot of discussion about which tools might be more appropriate :)
<cwayne> hey wendar, thanks a lot!  ( i hope i haven't been *too* annoying lately :) )
<ajmitch> usually CIVS
<wendar> cwayne: no worries, thanks for the reminder :)
<ajmitch> I'm surprised that launchpad still has polls
<wendar> ajmitch: right, but CIVS doesn't work when you have more spaces than candidates
<wendar> ajmitch: so I talked with the CC after the last vote and they said "use a Launchpad poll for a confirmation vote"
<ajmitch> darn
<wendar> ajmitch: so I updated the process to match what the CC said
<ajmitch> who have you talked to to get a poll up on LP?
<wendar> ajmitch: but, yeah, everyone on the DMB seems to agree an LP poll isn't the right way to do it
<ajmitch> not surprising :)
<wendar> ajmitch: I CCd the entire DMB, but off list
<wendar> ajmitch: I'm open to other ideas
<ajmitch> does CIVS not work with confirmation vote for 3 people, assuming it's 1 new & 2 renewals?
<wendar> ajmitch: any thoughts on how to take a yes/no/abstain poll of the entire ubuntu-devel membership, for only confirmation?
 * ajmitch can't remember if you were putting your name forward again or didn't have time
<wendar> I'm not, because I'm not qualified under the new rules
<ajmitch> no, I don't really know what other voting options there are
<wendar> CIVS only allows you to rank the candidates
<wendar> selecting some number of seats from some larger pool
<wendar> what we need is a yes/no/abstain vote on each candidate
<ajmitch> confirmation votes can be done there by including a 'none of the above'
<wendar> but, what if they only want to approve 2 and decline 1?
<ajmitch> they rank those 2 above NOTA, and the 1 below
<ajmitch> debian uses a similar system
<wendar> hmmm... I can try it
<wendar> we do have lots of nice scripts for pulling ubuntu devel addresses
<wendar> (to inject into CIVS)
 * ajmitch also doesn't know of a good way to get more people interested
<ajmitch> perhaps having regular discussions with those who've show interest in being an arb helper
<wendar> ajmitch: it's partly a chicken-and-egg problem: it would be a lot more attractive without the backlog, but we need more help to clear the backlog
<ajmitch> yep
<ajmitch> and just that reviewing isn't fun :)
<ajmitch> dholbach: welcome back
<ajmitch> it's nice to have you around in a sane timezone ;)
<wendar> ajmitch: yeah, I'm not sure how to make it more fun
<dholbach> thanks
<wendar> ajmitch: though, just making it less tedious would probably help
<ajmitch> yes
<wendar> bhavi's term isn't ending, right?
<ajmitch> do we have a wiki page about how arb contributors can help?
<ajmitch> you're right, it's not
<wendar> so it's just you and alessio
<wendar> for 6 slots?
<ajmitch> does the poll have to be set for 6 slots?
<wendar> it could be 2
<wendar> it asks how many candidates will be successful
 * ajmitch guesses that will work
<wendar> ajmitch: do you want to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndrewMitchell/ARB?
<wendar> (so I can link it from the poll)
<ajmitch> not really, it'd require me being creative :)
<ajmitch> I'll have to give it a shot later
<ajmitch> currently there's nothing inaccurate in it, just outdated
<wendar> ajmitch: okay, I'll link it in. it's probably worth mentioning that you've been on the ARB for 2 years now, for anyone who's not in-the-know :)
<ajmitch> might be :)
<ajmitch> that will probably count against me
<wendar> heh
<wendar> ajmitch: you should have just gotten a poll request, tell me if it looks sane
<wendar> if so, I'll add the rest of ubuntu-dev
<ajmitch> I have, it looks alright
<wendar> okay, thanks! shipping out to the lot of them
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-05
<coolbhavi> dpm, jono good morning!
<dpm> hey coolbhavi
<jono> hey coolbhavi
<ajmitch> hi coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> dpm, jono its great that you havent slept :)
<coolbhavi> ajmitch, hey
<ajmitch> next few hours are the hardest :)
<ajmitch> I'm sure jcastro will run out of albums
<dpm> coolbhavi, after 18 hours non-stop ... not really great :)
<coolbhavi> :)
<dpm> hey everyone, could someone have a look at the Lightread update? I've been helping them to send the update, and it'd be cool to get it on the SC.
 * ajmitch wishes the changes email had a link to the app
<ajmitch> I know there's a bug open about that
<coolbhavi> dpm, sure
<coolbhavi> dpm, the CR field has only the deb uploaded .. I'll anyway pull from ppa
<coolbhavi> let me check :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, found 2 nitpicks
<coolbhavi> :)
<coolbhavi> 1. the long description in d/control is missing in the update
<coolbhavi> 2. the dh version differs in d/compat and d/control
<coolbhavi> 3. d/copyright file is awfully messy
<coolbhavi> in the ppa package
<coolbhavi> so m going to say these things in the cr and put it under needs info
<coolbhavi> dpm, left a comment there
<coolbhavi> alright dpm my break got over and running to work now have a great rest of the marathon dholbach jono
<coolbhavi> ciao all!
<dholbach> thanks a bunch coolbhavi
<dholbach> have a great weekend
<coolbhavi> same to u :)
<cwayne> next up: github lens!
<cwayne> wendar: any chance of a vote today :P
<wendar> cwayne: sorry, I'm on a deadline for next week :( but tomorrow I'll have time
<cwayne> wendar: no worries, we've all got deadlines, whenever's fine :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-06
<cwayne> hey, how come there's not a seperate category for unity lenses in the usc?
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-08
<dholbach> good morning
<coolbhavi> dpm, hey
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-09
<dholbach> good morning
<coolbhavi> dpm, hey
<coolbhavi> busy?
<dpm> hey coolbhavi, afk :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, oops sorry pinged at the wrong time!
<dpm> np, I'm just idling here :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, regarding postman your idea seems to be good but I have a doubt
<coolbhavi> as to does it give rise to a license usage issue
<dpm> coolbhavi, yeah, but there must be a way to distribute those icons. We are actually using social network icons in the default Ubuntu image, on the Online Accounts dialog: http://ubuntuone.com/4hhVXLJAP2iUgAxNhnnveP - can't we distribute the Postman icons in the same way we distribute those?
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hello
<coolbhavi> dpm, agreed. I'll just have a look at the package
<coolbhavi> empathy right?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, hello
<dpm> coolbhavi, I think the Ubuntu Online Accounts are a plugin for empathy, but I'm not sure if they're packaged with empathy or as a separate package
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hey, i was wondering if when you got a chance you could vote on my app?  it got 2 votes in july and kinda got forgotten :)  unity-lens-vm
<coolbhavi> cwayne, yes m sorry ll have a quick look now
<coolbhavi> dpm, thanks for the headsup :) ll check and revert
<dpm> coolbhavi, awesome, thanks!
<coolbhavi> :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, was it a part of app showdown?
<cwayne> coolbhavi: no, it was a couple months before
<coolbhavi> ah ok!
<coolbhavi> ll reply on list shortly
<cwayne> coolbhavi: if this helps: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-June/000877.html
<coolbhavi> cwayne, yes :) I'm downloading the branch thanks!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thank you!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, no mention apologies for making you wait for a single vote rather
<cwayne> coolbhavi: no worries, i know you guys are doing the best you can :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, thanks!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, just 2 minor points I found
<coolbhavi> 1. setup.py file is found to be in public domain whereas d/copyright states that all files are in gpl v3
<coolbhavi> 2. XB fields are no longer used and can be removed
<coolbhavi> dpkg-deb: warning: 'debian/unity-lens-vm/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field 'Appname'
<coolbhavi> dpkg-deb: warning: 'debian/unity-lens-vm/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field 'Category'
<coolbhavi> dpkg-deb: warning: 'debian/unity-lens-vm/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field 'Icon'
<cwayne> coolbhavi: just fixed these locally, want me to push? or do an MR? (not sure the protocol for these :) )
<coolbhavi> cwayne, just pushing is enough :)
<cwayne> coolbhavi: ah, i dont seem to have write access to that branch
<cwayne> coolbhavi: so i pushed it to lp:~cwayne18/ubuntu-app-reviews/vm-lens
<coolbhavi> cwayne, thanks! thats fine!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, m just doing some basic testing
<coolbhavi> ll reply on list shortly and upload the app
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, you missed the or later word I guess in setup.py
<coolbhavi> :)
<coolbhavi> in license header
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hmm? i dont understand
<coolbhavi> cwayne, bhavani@bhavani-spagetti-monster:~/arb/unity-lens-vm_updated$ licensecheck -r unity-lens-vm/
<coolbhavi> unity-lens-vm/setup.py: GPL (v3,)
<coolbhavi> unity-lens-vm/unity_lens_vm/unity_lens_vmconfig.py: GPL (v3 or later)
<coolbhavi> unity-lens-vm/unity_lens_vm/__init__.py: GPL (v3 or later)
<cwayne> huh, i did quickly license GPL-3, not sure why it made the others or later
<cwayne> let me fix real quickly
<cwayne> coolbhavi: pushed :)
<coolbhavi> thanks!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, uploaded to extras
<coolbhavi> :)
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks!!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: if youre goin to UDS i owe ya a beer :P
<coolbhavi> cwayne, no mention :) yes lets meet at UDS :)
<coolbhavi> but minus beer :P
<cwayne> coolbhavi: :)
<coolbhavi> :) good night!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hey so just for future reference, if i were to update this package, would i just do it through myapps? how do you guys handle updates?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, just change the tarball in the package upload section we ll get a change request mail
<cwayne> coolbhavi: great, thanks!  have a good night!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, thanks for your patience :) have a great day ahead!
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-10
<dholbach> good morning
<coolbhavi> cwayne, hey
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hiya
<coolbhavi> cwayne, could you give the link to your app on the portal? ll mark it as published if it has not been done yet
<cwayne> coolbhavi: sure, here ya go: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/807/
<coolbhavi> cwayne, thanks! ll fill  in required details and mark it as published
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks again for all your help!  you guys will be seeing more of me soon :P (or rather, more lenses submitted by me)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, my pleasure! sure :-) you guys are rockstars!
<coolbhavi> dpm, is there a problem with rendering of myapps portal recently?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, published :-)
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks!  to make up for it, submitted another lens just now too :P
<coolbhavi> cwayne, haha link pls
<cwayne> coolbhavi: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1690/
<coolbhavi> cwayne, just had a quick look
<cwayne> coolbhavi: just realized i'll probably need to make some changes, someone else did them for the other lens, would have to take a look at what they are, unless the quickly template was fixed
<coolbhavi> you need to install the app in /opt/extras.ubuntu.com and change namespace of the service file to add extras prefix
<coolbhavi> you can take a look at unity-lens-vm
<cwayne> that sounds pretty familiar, let me take a look
 * cwayne will have to do that for unity-lens-pypi as well
<dpm> coolbhavi, sorry, I don't know if there is anything going on with myapps atm
<coolbhavi> dpm, oh ok again sorry for pinging you off work :)
<dpm> coolbhavi, you can ping me any time if I'm around :)
<coolbhavi> :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, if you dont mind ll leave a comment on the portal marking it in progress
<cwayne> coolbhavi: sounds good to me, i'm taking a look now
<cwayne> replicating what happend with unity-lens-vm :)
<coolbhavi> :)
 * coolbhavi opens up a bug report against myapps
<coolbhavi> dpm, if I am not wrong bug in myapps should be reported here right? https://launchpad.net/developer-portal
<cwayne> coolbhavi: made some fixes, testing if it builds now :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, great!
<dpm> coolbhavi, yes, that's the place to report bugs
<coolbhavi> dpm, thanks!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: fixed, pushed to lp:~cwayne18/ubuntu-app-reviews/unity-lens-github
<coolbhavi> cwayne, ll have a look :)
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks!  built and installed, seemed to work
<coolbhavi> :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, excellent looks great!
<coolbhavi> mailing the list now
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hey, thanks!
<cwayne> ill try and fix up the pypi lens tonight, but i think this one is higher priority for me, more people seem to want it :P
<coolbhavi> cwayne, mailed now marking you in CC
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, awesome work!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: thanks! couldn't have done it without quickly + singlet, so much credit should go to mhall119 :P
<coolbhavi> yes mhall119 is mr lens :)
<coolbhavi> cwayne, good night!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: you too!
<coolbhavi> cwayne, have a wonderful day ahead!
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-11
<dholbach> good morning
<highvoltage> good morning dholbach
<dholbach> hi highvoltage
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-13
<PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
<wendar> my ARB membership expires in 3 hours, I wonder if I can review cwayne's app in that time?
<wendar> (apologies for being so absent, I took my final exam in astrophysics yesterday, so I'm beginning to dig my way out of the backlog)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-15
<coolbhavi> cwayne, hey
<cwayne> heya coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> cwayne, how is it going?
<cwayne> coolbhavi: not too badly, how bout you?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, went fine :) reg unity-lens-github it has a +2 now
<coolbhavi> request you to wait as we are undergoing restaffing
<cwayne> coolbhavi: sure thing :)
<coolbhavi> thanks a lot! reg unity-lens-pypi left a comment
<coolbhavi> achuni_, hey
<cwayne> coolbhavi: yep, saw that, sorry hadn't had time to make those fixes yet
<achuni> hi coolbhavi :)
<coolbhavi> no issues cwayne :) thanks a lot for your awesome work!
<coolbhavi> achuni, :) is there any development going on the portal end?
<achuni> coolbhavi: not much atm, with the upcoming release and everything, but a bit, why?  Last rollout happened last Thursday iirc
<coolbhavi> achuni, I'm facing rendering issues in my browser. reported a bug too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1065189
<achuni> ah, saw that one, yep, should be a simple css fix I think?
<coolbhavi> yes :)
<achuni> we want white-space: pre-wrap or something
<achuni> the
<achuni> the \n's are in the page source afaict
<achuni> coolbhavi: should be something that'll be done for next rollout. most likely not until next week though...
<coolbhavi> ok but I see the buttons too at the top now.. :) thanks achuni :)
 * achuni confirms and prioritizes the bug
<achuni> np :)
<coolbhavi> :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-16
<jvrbanac> Quick question. Is there a preferred way of getting my app in the USC for Quantal? Do I just need to push up a quantal version to my PPA and submit an update?
<wendar> jvrbanac: yes, submitting an update through the usual app submission process the way
<wendar> *is* the way
<jvrbanac> wendar, Thanks that's what I was assuming. I just didn't know if there was something specific for just updating the distro
<wendar> jvrbanac: the process is much lighter for any updates of apps that have already been published
<wendar> but, at the moment there's no way to tag an app submission specifically as an update
<wendar> (there should be)
<wendar> But, a heads-up like this is helpful. :)
<jvrbanac> wendar, Got it, yeah I was wanting to make sure I did everything possible to reduce the load on the ARB. Thanks!
<ajmitch> morning
<cwayne> heya ajmitch
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-17
<cwayne> so there's a new ARB?
<ajmitch> not really
<ajmitch> at least the process hasn't changed yet
<cwayne> but new members?
<ajmitch> 1 new person on the board, and a couple of others whose terms have expired
<ajmitch> we'll be trying to recruit more during UDS, I think
<cwayne> ah, i get it
<quadrispro> ehy there :)
<coolbhavi> quadrispro, welcome!
<quadrispro> ehy coolbhavi :) thank you so much!
<coolbhavi> quadrispro, m elated seeing you here!
<quadrispro> coolbhavi, :)
<quadrispro> and I'm welcome to be here :)
<quadrispro> err sorry
<quadrispro> s/welcome/happy/
<quadrispro> sorry, I have ~100 queries open
<quadrispro> plus a skype call going on :)
<coolbhavi> :)
<ajmitch> hi quadrispro
<quadrispro> hi ajmitch !
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-18
<Paolo-Rotolo> Hi all!
<quadrispro> ciao everybody!
<dpm> ciao quadrispro, how are you doing?
<dpm> I know Bhavani and I think StÃ©phane are going to be at UDS, ajmitch, quadrispro, wendar, are you going to be there too?
<PaoloRotolo> Ciao quadrispro :)
<quadrispro> dpm, hola amigo! como estÃ¡s?
<quadrispro> ciao PaoloRotolo !
<quadrispro> dpm, unfortunately I am not, I'm at Aberdeen now as ERASMUS and, well, if I can't miss lectures at all :(
<quadrispro> s/if//
<quadrispro> hope to see you next time!
 * quadrispro will be right back
<PaoloRotolo> * Ubuntu 12.10 is out \o/
<cwayne> woo
<coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, :)
<coolbhavi> jono, hey
<PaoloRotolo> Hi coolbhavi :D
<coolbhavi> hey PaoloRotolo :)
<PaoloRotolo> :)
<PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, there are two italians in the team now :P
<PaoloRotolo> quadrispro, :)
<coolbhavi> was real great to see quadrispro joining in :)
<coolbhavi> hey dpm mhall119
<coolbhavi> hey cwayne :)
<coolbhavi> hey highvoltage :D
<cwayne> hey coolbhavi
<mhall119> hey coolbhavi
<dpm> hey coolbhavi, happy release day!
<dpm> coolbhavi, do you know who else from the ARB will be at UDS?
<coolbhavi> dpm, thanks! same to you! reviewing postman now
<coolbhavi> dpm, I'm not sure
<highvoltage> hey coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> dpm, still the logos are present but its used as a brand identity
<coolbhavi> so ll give it a +1
<dpm> super, thanks coolbhavi, looking forward to getting it published and put the banner up on the Software Center!
<coolbhavi> dpm, :) replied on list
<dpm> great
<cwayne> either the downloads number is off, or my vm lens still has 0 downloads :(
 * ajmitch doesn't know any details about the downloads count for extras.u.c
<cwayne> maybe cus its free, doesnt count as sales?
<ajmitch> it wouldn't, but I think there is a download count for extras.
<cwayne> or maybe i just have 0 downloads :P
<Paolo-Rotolo> Hi!
<cwayne> hello
<Paolo-Rotolo> hi cwayne !
<Paolo-Rotolo> Hi jono :)
<ajmitch> hello
<Paolo-Rotolo> Hi ajmitch :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-19
<wendar> dpm: yes, I'll be at UDS
<wendar> ah, he's gone
<ajmitch> yeah, otherwise I'd have replied to him also
 * ajmitch still has jono's email to reply to
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-22
<bioevolgenec> Hello! My app was published around a month ago, within the scope of the Ubuntu App Showdown. How could I notify the ARB for an updated version of the app?
<dpm> hi bioevolgenec, if you upload a new version in myapps.developer.ubuntu.com the ARB should get a notification and they should see it
<dpm> you can always talk to them here if they're around or give a heads up about your app on the ARB mailing list
<bioevolgenec> dpm: Ok, thank you very much!
<dpm> app-review-board(AT)lists(DOT)ubuntu(DOT)com
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-23
<coolbhavi> hey dpm
<coolbhavi> read your mail now
<dpm> hey coolbhavi, welcome back :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, I can register for the ARB review blueprint
<coolbhavi> tell me if I need to do something else
<dpm> coolbhavi, excellent, thanks. Just a couple of things:
<dpm> - Could you use the prefix 'appdev-r-' for the name of the blueprint? This way it will go automatically to the app devs track
<dpm> - Could you set the Approver to jonobacon? I'll then make sure he approves it and it gets into the schedule
<coolbhavi> sure
<dpm> coolbhavi, actually, you can set the approver to me, which will save me pinging Jono
<coolbhavi> done
<coolbhavi> just give me 2 mins
<dpm> great, thanks!
<coolbhavi> dpm, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-r-arb-review
<dpm> coolbhavi, excellent, thanks! I'll get it approved. Do you mind if I add a few notes to the whiteboard?
<coolbhavi> dpm, please go ahead!
<dpm> coolbhavi, also, make sure to subscribe yourself to it, so that it appears on your UDS calendar, and the session auto-scheduler can do its work
 * dpm forgets about it sometimes
<coolbhavi> dpm, done :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, I'll just fire up a quick post on the mailing list so that interested people can subscribe
<dpm> coolbhavi, sounds great
<dpm> ok, it seems I can't approve the ARB blueprint. jono, could you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-r-arb-review so that it is imported into summit?
<jono> dpm, done
<dpm> cool, thanks jono
<coolbhavi> dpm, just posted on the mailing list
<coolbhavi> thanks jono
<jono> :-)
<dpm> coolbhavi, in about 30 min you should see the session on the App Dev track: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/track/appdev/
<coolbhavi> dpm, great!
<coolbhavi> ll reply to your mail now dpm
<dpm> super
<coolbhavi> done
<coolbhavi> if there are any other things related to the arb I can help
<coolbhavi> ajmitch, good morning if you are around :)
<dpm> coolbhavi, I think that should be it for now. If you could think of suggestions for streamlining the process of reviews (e.g. reducing the number of required votes, simplifying reviews, etc...), and if you could add them to the whiteboard, I think that'd be really helpful to drive the discussion
<dpm> coolbhavi, also, if you think any other ARB session is needed, feel free to register it. Just ping me and I'll make sure it's approved
<coolbhavi> dpm, yes I do have :) discussion of the new app dev process
<coolbhavi> maybe we can have as a separate session?
<dpm> coolbhavi, sure, it all depends on what you want to get out of that session. We've got one scheduled for the new app dev process already: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21213/the-new-ubuntu-app-developer-upload-process/ - I'd suggest you have a look to see if that covers it, and then you can decide if you want to register a separate one
<coolbhavi> dpm, seems fine!
<dpm> coolbhavi, also, there's this question on Ask Ubuntu the ARB might want to answer. It's a tricky one, so I confess I'm just passing the hot potato to you guys :) - http://askubuntu.com/questions/204706/is-the-ubuntu-application-review-board-dead
<coolbhavi> arb dead?
<coolbhavi> hmm
<coolbhavi> ll reply
<coolbhavi> dpm, replied
<coolbhavi> dpm, does it sound a bit direct?
<dpm> coolbhavi, thanks. Sounds good, and being direct is never a problem if done respectfully :)
<coolbhavi> haha thanks :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, regarding the lowering of voting threshold m a bit skeptical
<dpm> coolbhavi, why is that?
<coolbhavi> as I personally believe more number of eyeballs leads to a quality review
<coolbhavi> i.e the quality of review increases
<ajmitch> morning (though coolbhavi has now disappeared)
<ajmitch> dpm: so I'd love to mark myself as attending those arb sessions on summit, but summit is crashing & burning on me :)
<ajmitch> dpm: fwiw, the scheduler has put the new upload process & arb review in the same timeslot
<dpm> ajmitch, crashing is to be expected of any software, but I'd be worried about the burning part :)
<dpm> ajmitch, so you're coming to UDS?
<dpm> and thanks for the heads up, trying to sort out the time for that session so that it doesn't conflict
<ajmitch> dpm: yes I'll be at UDS
<ajmitch> yes I need to catch up & reply to email :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-24
<coolbhavi> dpm, good morning!
<dpm> hey coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> just wanted to ask you a question
<coolbhavi> just took a look at the schedule and found the ARB planning and App dev process discussion are at same time
<coolbhavi> dpm, so is it ok?
<dpm> coolbhavi, hm, I took it out of the schedule yesterday, so that they don't fall at the same time. Has it been scheduled at the same time again?
<coolbhavi> yes
<dpm> coolbhavi, ok, thanks for the heads up. I'm waiting for some other sessions to be rescheduled first, but I'll make sure these two don't conflict
<coolbhavi> dpm, thanks!
<cwayne> ello
<coolbhavi> cwayne, hey!
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hey, hows it goin
<coolbhavi> cwayne, good! you in denmark now?
<cwayne> coolbhavi: yep
<coolbhavi> cwayne, how is the weather there?
<cwayne> coolbhavi: a bit chilly
<cwayne> but not horrible
<coolbhavi> cwayne, ok so ll bring my thermals in :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-25
<coolbhavi> dpm, hey
<dpm> hi coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> can the arb and arb contributors meet at a team lunch/dinner this time too at the uds?
<dpm> coolbhavi, absolutely. The only thing to have in mind this time around is that there are only 4 days of UDS, and they're all pretty packed with evening events already
<dpm> so ti might be tricky to find a time/day that suits everyone
<coolbhavi> we had it after the sessions last time on a thursday
<ajmitch> morning
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-26
<cwayne> ello
<coolbhavi> hey cwayne
<cwayne> hey coolbhavi, how's it goin
<coolbhavi> its going good
<coolbhavi> there?
<cwayne> not too bad
<cwayne> coolbhavi: still just waitin for one more vote :P
<coolbhavi> have to ask ajmitch or quadrispro :)
<coolbhavi> dpm, great session!
<dpm> thanks coolbhavi :-)
<coolbhavi> :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-27
<PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-28
* card.freenode.net changed the topic of #ubuntu-arb to: Ubuntu Application Review Board | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Showdown | Feel free to ask, we're not always staring at our screens so please hang around for an answer
<coolbhavi> hey highvoltage
<coolbhavi> hey ajmitch
<highvoltage> hello
<coolbhavi> where are you located?
<coolbhavi> we can meet if you are free
<coolbhavi> :)
<highvoltage> I'm downstairs
<highvoltage> there's an area with benches and tables close to checkin
<highvoltage> close to the bar
<coolbhavi> Alright ll be there after a shower :)
<highvoltage> ok
<PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
<coolbhavi> hey dpm :)
<ajmitch> hi
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-30
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, hey
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, hey
<jvrbanac> good morning
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, good morning just had a look at the cuckoo alarm package update
<coolbhavi> are you targeting the update to quantal?
<jvrbanac> fantastic! Yes I am. I included a few minor fixes as well.
<coolbhavi> ok I'll upload to quantal then
<coolbhavi> rather than precise
<jvrbanac> Is there a way you could upload it to both
<jvrbanac> ?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, hey
<coolbhavi> yes
<ajmitch> morning
<coolbhavi> have to just make some changelog modifications
<coolbhavi> ajmitch, good morning!
<cwayne> hey coolbhavi
<coolbhavi> cwayne, in which room are you?
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, if it helps, both the quantal and precise versions are in the Cuckoo PPA. If there is some other change you need for me to make, I can get that done in a few minutes.
<cwayne> coolbhavi: b3 something, how about you
<ajmitch> b3-m4
<coolbhavi> b3-m4
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, thanks.. I'll have a look
<cwayne> agh, i wanted to go to "App Developer Upload Process Feedback" but im leading another session at that time
<coolbhavi> :)
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, awesome thanks for your help! Nothing like staying up all night to listen to some of the sessions :)
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, no mention
<coolbhavi> :)
<ajmitch> cwayne: quick question, where'd you get the github logo from for the lens?
<cwayne> ajmitch: i think google images
<cwayne> ajmitch: shall i find a new one?
 * ajmitch was looking up what logos are available on https://github.com/github/media but they don't have a monochrome one that I could find
<cwayne> ajmitch: yeah, i was just looking there as well
<ajmitch> the most problematic thing with apps to integrate with webservices seems to be licensing of logos, it's a real pain
<cwayne> ajmitch: well, crap
<cwayne> ajmitch: i can replace the item icons with one of those easily enough (although itll look like crap due to transparency not working)
<ajmitch> I don't like it either, I'd rather just use the images you have because they look good :)
<coolbhavi> :)
<cwayne> heh
<cwayne> now the only issue is what i can do for the lens icon
<ajmitch> lens icon can be colour, but it looks out of place :)
<coolbhavi> hehe
<cwayne> yeah
<cwayne> but it also say please don't use github logo for your application's icon
<cwayne> crap
 * cwayne is stuck, not a graphic designer
<ajmitch> sorry :(
<cwayne> ajmitch: not your fault :)
<cwayne> ajmitch: i just put out a call for help on google+, maybe someone following me can make an icon :P
<coolbhavi> yes I thought you got it from the repository and gave it a +1
<coolbhavi> the lens is really cool btw
<ajmitch> we probably haven't always been consistent with checking on logo terms, I don't know what the legalities are for these logos,since it's more trademarks than copyright
<cwayne> coolbhavi: hey, are there any ARB-related sessions tomorrow?  I'd like t get to to go at least one of them :)
<ajmitch> cwayne: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/track/appdev/
<cwayne> ah right, that'd do it
<cwayne> thanks ajmitch
<ajmitch> the 12:00 session is pretty ARB-specific, you could come along
<cwayne> thanks ajmitch
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, in d/copyright i find a binary line.
<coolbhavi> what does it specify?
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, hmm not sure, apparently that was put it with the quantal version of quickly using package --extras.
<jvrbanac> looking
<coolbhavi> ok
<cwayne> coolbhavi: can one entry in myapps be published for preicse and quantal?
<coolbhavi> cwayne, yes I guess since its targeting 2 different versions
<coolbhavi> and changing the extras prefix should do it
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, I haven't found anything that say what that is or why that was put there. You want me to remove it?
<coolbhavi> jvrbanac, I can do that for you and upload it in some time
<jvrbanac> coolbhavi, ok fantastic! Just let me know if you need for me to do anything! Thanks a ton!
<BerndSch> is there someone who could check the lastest comment on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/548/feedback/ and get in contact with me at uds?
<cwayne> ajmitch: check out lp:~cwayne18/ubuntu-app-reviews/unity-lens-github :)
#ubuntu-arb 2012-10-31
<cwayne> hello everyone
<cwayne> 'ello
<PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
#ubuntu-arb 2013-10-13
<Pouria> Hello.
<Pouria> Would anyone like to help me find a name for my app?
#ubuntu-arb 2013-10-21
<Pouria> Hello Everyone.
<Pouria> I've uploaded my application for review in this url:
<Pouria> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/3301/
<Pouria> I don't know if the above url is accessible to everybody or not.
<Pouria> But basically, it is a Gtk3 app.
<Pouria> It is not a Ubuntu Sdk or Ubuntu Touch or mobile app.
<Pouria> So I have not tried to publish it as a "click app".
<Pouria> I hope I've uploaded to the right place, since the ubuntu website for publishing apps seems a little weird and incomplete, and I may well be misguided.
#ubuntu-arb 2014-10-11
<Phoenix_Dragon> heya

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