@La_Redaction (La Rédaction) posted a new topic, subject "Kingdom Come, mort et vie en Bohème". It read:

   Eu égard à son angle d'attaque sans concession, son sens aigu de la construction d'univers, ses personnages solides et ses quêtes aussi intéressantes que finement écrites, Kingdom Come Deliverance devrait trouver sa place parmi les jeux de rôles occidentaux les plus intéressants et les plus importants de ces dernières années. Seulement voilà, les bugs par stères, la finition insultante, l'optimisation à revoir et quelques missions à repenser de zéro arrachent un à un ses quartiers de noblesse à sa Seigneurie et le forcent à barboter avec les gens de la roture, les malades et les gueux. Un jour, Warhorse pourra se vanter d'avoir accouché d'un très bon RPG en monde ouvert, et ce sans devoir s'y…
    
    Lire la suite sur le site…

So @PoussinElitiste replied

    on devrait dire: “ils nous ont fait une FFXV”…

Then @Gimli said

    Merci pour ce test, qui confirme malheureusement les quelques avis et vidéos que j'ai eu le loisir de lire ou de voir depuis quelques jours.
    
    Je vais donc m'empresser d'attendre que le jeu soit fini pour me lancer. Le jeu m'attire justement pour son côté sans concession et la promesse d'un jeu de rôle différent par son approche.
    
    En espérant que les dev corrige aussi certains choix de gameplay vraiment moisi (le système de sauvegarde déjà).

Then @Tanis_1 said

    À faire dans un an donc. Parfait j'ai accumulé tellement de retard avec tous les bons RPG sortis ces dernières années que ça m'arrange en fait !

After which, @Tetora95 added

    Même note que bloodlines.  
    Chef d'oeuvre fini à la pisse donc

@Nightstroll replied

    Ces intertitres d'anthologie.

After which, @Turbolax added

    Ce jeu vaudra sans doute le coup dans un an ou deux…

So @anon6090671 replied

    Le test est légit. Je pense que dans 1 ou 2 ans ce jeu sera un classique.
    
    Laissons les devs corriger techniquement toutes les lacunes qu'il a et ensuite la créativité des mods fera le reste. Les moddeurs vont s'en donner à coeur joie. C'est vraiment dommage qu'ils aient sorti le jeu en “beta”… Il a vraiment un truc, un univers, une ambiance ect… il a une vraie richesse et surtout, il réussi à avoir une vraie identité. Quand tu as dans la même catégorie des mastodontes et des classiques comme Elder Scrolls, Mount & Blade, The Witcher c'est vraiment louable! Reste plus qu'à être patient. Retourner sur le jeu dans 6mois pour le jeu de base et puis l'année prochaine pour les mods qui apporteront énormément et décupleront la puissance du jeu de base.

After which, @Achille6 added

    > On a par exemple été mis au trou pour avoir frappé le supérieur d'Henry durant une séance d'entrainement - où il était précisément question de croiser le fer -
    
    Mais

Then @Talfos said

    Vivement les bugfixes que ce soit jouable, parce que ces systèmes à base de “va te décrasser et amène toi en armure lourde si tu veux te faire respecter du seigneur”, cette idée de génie.

Then @bastienman said

    Ça tourne mieux sur ma 1060 ! Mais par contre, le jeu est imbitable. Dommage, j'aimais bien la proposition ! On attendra Mount&Blade 2 pour un vrai trip médiéval réussi.

Then @NaturalPhaze said

    Dommage, étant pas fan de fantasy ce RPG me branchait bien, on va attendre les futurs gros patchs avant achat.

@anon90245148 replied

    6 = honnête
    
    Un bon jeu buggé jusqu'à l'os sorti minimum 6 mois trop tôt c'est honnête ? OK

@anon56367156 replied

    Excellent jeu pour ma part.  
    A l'époque du Kickstarter, je savais bien qu'on n'aurait pas droit à un AAA.  
    Malgré tout, le jeu a une singularité, chose assez rare ces temps-ci. A conseiller donc en version GOTY dans un an pour les plus exigeants en terme de finition.  
    Personnellement, je n'ai été bloqué qu'une fois à cause d'un script et en rechargeant la sauvegarde précédente, c'est passé crème.

@chourtout replied

    vous précisez vous meme que vous ne connaissez rien de la bohème ou au moyen age mais vous allez faire référence a des "on-dits de certains historiens (qui ?) qui avancent la theorie que…"  
    bref au moins ça ne figure pas dans les moins  
    un bon jeu pourri par l'optimisation (j'ai réussi a en faire abstraction)

@Tenkken replied

    Merci pour ce test tant attendu!
    
    Même si KCD à l'air vraiment fini à la pisse, c'était aussi le cas de certain de ces prédécesseurs. Ca devient vraiment la normalité les rpg à monde ouvert qui sorte pas fini.  
    The Witcher 3 bugait bien salement à sa sortie par exemple. Ou encore Skyrim sur ps3 qui lors d'une quête principale (quand t'allais voir le dragon) pouvait planter et carrément corrompre ta sauvegarde, t'avais plus qu'à en prendre une plus ancienne… si tu en avais une bien sûr…
    
    Après au vu du test ça a quand même l'air puissance 1000 pour KCD… espérons une enhanced edition donc…

So @anon20072190 replied

    Moi je veux bien un 6 mais une fois les bugs corrigés est ce que GK fera un correctif ? Car bon The Witcher 1 était un monument de bugs et de laideur, avant la refonte. Les jeux Bethesda sont pourris de bugs à longueur de temps. Donc 6… .ça fait quand même un peu rude.

@Ex-JVPholles59 (Ex-JVPholles59) replied

    Merci @Gautoz pour le test, et le fait de ne pas être tombé dans les délires de certains sites pour juger le jeu (coucou Numerama).  
    Le jeu donne vraiment envie, vivement la définitive édition débugée !

@chourtout replied

    fallout 4 a la meme note  
    c'est la faute de l'editeur de sortir le jeu dans cet etat

@anon90245148 replied

    D'autant plus que c'est plutôt bien payé. Il aurait dû faire une preview invitant les joueurs à ne pas acheter et y revenir cet été pour noter le titre. Ça aurait fait grincer des dents mais clairement en l'état c'est juste pas possible

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