 don’t “feel” them, you may not want to listen to them that much, and if you like someone, even if they’re not so good, you may listen to them more, thus, a longer analysis).
Well sometimes there’s more to say about someone simply because they have more issues or qualities. Some other times, it’s due to the amount of material or the author’s style. I generally write a lot, it’s easier when I’ve listened to them more so I can go into more detail but I don’t think the length affects the “bias” factor, since we put in just as much effort but sometimes there’s not much to say. What do you mean non mainstream? My longest analysis is Park Hyoshins analysis which is over 3K words in length, nothing else I wrote comes even close and he’s not an idol. lol I think the author factor is the most important for sure.
Kyuhyun is good to great.
I get that you only analyze half of the vocalists (large groups) or the best one or two, but a little suggestion?
What about a “mini analysis”, like their voice type, vocal range, a few observations accompanied by a single video with their best performance? For all the weak vocalists who people have been requesting for ages (I hear you BTS Jimin stans). Sure it’s not as comprehensive, but with all the analysis you’ve been doing in the comments section, you can probably compile a mini vocal analysis for some highly-requested people.
I understand your suggestion and I appreciate it but..there are a few reasons I wouldn’t do that. 1. I would have to do that for a lot of people and that could take away time from writing actual analyses. 2. It takes away credibility since the analyses are less lengthy and wouldn’t have as many examples, which makes convincing fans harder. 3. I don’t like half assing something. If I’m going to do it, imma do it right. So that’s why it’s been suggested before but I can’t do it.
Gongchan – probably tenor, Weak Vocalist…….
…and that ruins everything. I loved Younha, Jessica, Seohyun and BEG’s analysis though.
Jinyoung (with his really thin voice)…can possibly be a baritone? And here I thought CNU could be the baritone (cause of his fuller voice) Never thought of that possibility. So CNU’s a tenor, huh… lol ruins the credibility of the analysis if it was done like that. I really like this blog, I’ll keep an eye out for updates!
Well I thought of him being a baritone singing with a high larynx, cause of where he mixes but I think he’s most likely a tenor. Yeah see it would be very bad that way and if I write a paragraph might as well write a whole analysis. Thank you!
How does CNU’s singing in musicals compare to his recording studio voice? Does he sound better technically? I wish his voice was less shallow in live performances, his tone is quite nice.
I think Jinyoung regressed from debut, he sounded a lot fuller back then but now it seems he sings with a more airy and nasal voice?
CNU in this video you posted he is kind of nasal, throaty, there’s too much air passing through and not enough connection happening between his vocal cords so I don’t really hear a steady stream of air nor a good enough stretch of his vocal cords. He is often flat and he isn’t able to place his voice anywhere but his throat. 1:24 He is a very shallow untrained tenor to me, the G4 kind of gives it away to me. There is no moment in which I hear support but he does have a nice voice.
With this old clip of Jinyoung I hear nasality and airiness, as well as a lot of flat notes. 0:21 0:27 0:35 0:38 0:42 all flat. I don’t hear connection nor support when he sings in this lower range, I had once thought he could be a baritone back in the day but I think he’s just an untrained tenor. 1:23 the way he sings around Eb4 sounds more like an untrained tenor who hasn’t learned to support.
I don’t know if anyone’s asked this, but did you ever review Sandeul and Ken’s duet on Duet Song Festival? Anything that can be said for either voices? Thanks!
Well there’s nothing that’s not in the analyses, do you have any special reason for asking? Anything caught your ear?
Now I am mad that I did not know about this.
In this video Sandeul was able to add more emotion to the song. Although he was not improvising nor I don’t think he was changing the melody, he did make his own version of the original song. Thanks for you analysis and your responses are quick as always.
Is this video an example of good musicianship from Sandeul? Thanks.
Speaking of musicianship, is that what Sandeul displayed here? Where he does the woah-oh at 1:46 that is not in the original song, then goes up instead of down in terms of the notes at 1:51?
If it’s different from the original yeah! That’s it!
hello! i wasn’t quite sure where to ask this but this has been something i’ve been curious about for very long.
i understand that in the comments you said that cnu isn’t a very technically superior singer, and i was wondering, how does he do a musical then? from my super limited knowledge, i know that you have to be quite good to actually be in a musical. but many kpop idols which don’t seem to be ranked very technically high (like Tiffany), seem to have participated in musicals.
do you have any idea as to how they perform such musicals or do i have a misconception on the technique you need to perform a musical? this isn’t actually vocal technique related but i was just curious and trying my luck in case you might have the answer :”) thank you for all the work you put into this!
No you really don’t need to be good to sing in musicals. Many musical singers are very chesty throaty shouty vocalists, especially in Korea. I was listening to the korean soundtrack of Mamma Mia the other day, from 2007?  Leo and Key have also been cast in musicals. So no, you really don’t need great technique to be in a musical. Is that kind of an answer?
oh yes! that makes sense now. but you said many musical singes are very chesty throaty shouty vocalists, does that apply to broadway/west end too? or just korea? i mean i’d think you’d have to be not bad (?) to perhaps pull of phantom of the opera but yet again i’m an untrained ear.
It does apply to broadway/western vocalists, but to a lesser degree. Instead of being solely throaty, they’re simply a bit too chesty and so the higher they go, they quickly lose support. If you watch this thing on youtube called the Broadway Disney Princess Party, you’ll find many videos of broadway sopranos mostly singing high and a good majority have great support and resonance up to C5/C#5, but start shouting above that. Phantom of the Opera is a head voice one and I haven’t heard too many people sing that. They usually have better head voices than they do mix for some reason, at least up to an extent. Of course there are great broadway musical vocalists too, but many of the young ones tend to be chesty and become shouty eventually. But they have more support behind it than many of the Korean ones, like this one girl who sang On My Own.
For me her support isn’t strong cause I hear more of her using air and placing her sound a bit too much towards her nose. She gets shouty quickly too. She just shapes her throat with kind of tension throughout and it becomes more apparent as she gets higher, instead of opening up the back of her throat.
On the topic of musical singers, can you comment on the singers in this video? I’m really curious to see what you think. I know your response won’t be a full blown analysis, but I would really appreciate the insight!
It’s not that the response won’t be a full blown analysis, it’s that it shouldn’t because I simply can’t. He has really good support and placement throughout, he mixes very well and listening to him is really easy on my ears. I hear no struggle, no high larynx, no strain, no forceful air pressure. Up to at least A4, he was not having any issues.
I think it’s his upper register, more so than lower. His lower register isn’t bad.
No, it’s only because of his head voice.
I think my baby Gongchan improved~!
If he’s already this good in 2015 (when this analysis out), what would you say about his early career (2011/2012)? Is he already quite decent in skill back then or there’s quite big jump?
As the analysis states, he got a better hold of breath management, support, and mixing over the years.
It’s been a while since his performance in King