 know and not be able to doing anything????
I really don’t know today. More and more as I go along, I have to believe we will somehow join our loved one someday, in spirit together, I guess it is that realm, that I care about.
People who do these things, there is a hell of some form for them, I think.
Disrespect is the whole package here.
Started with police in Sanford disrespecting the citizens’ right to law enforcement and public safety and protection.
Developed into the HOA disrespecting the rights of ordinary people to be free of gestapo-like harassment.
Encouraged Fogen disrespecting Trayvon Martin’s life interest.
Gave rise to the police and Wolfinger’s office disrespecting the mandate of their own sworn responsibilities.
UNTIL a public outcry demanded respect for the law, at which point Corey was appointed and did the job the Florida Constitution demands.
And then O’Mara and West and their band of toxic tongues disrespected all the elements of what it takes to be a decent American. ALL of them.
So here we are. This is where disrespect has brought us. And I am counting on Judge Deborah Nelson to restore respect to the laws of the State of Florida and those federal laws that apply, thanks to the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
We have never lived in Florida, but are getting the feeling of a situation that some may call ‘hometowning.’ In other words, the state lawyers are not ‘from’ there. I don’t know Florida well enough to announce that Orlando and Jacksonville are not happily married, but from an outsider’s point of view, it looks like one or two ‘turf battles’ going on, kind of like what one might see, for example, when the FBI takes over a local police agency’s big case.

or what a pogy plant is!
Florida is huge, and not like, say, Indiana where basketball rivalries define and impact just about everything else.
In South Flolrida, Dade, Broward and the Palm Beaches are in close proximity, yet worlds apart.
Not sure there’s any huge rivalry going on among Duval, Orange and/or Seminole counties. Plus so many residents are from somewhere else that they barely know the names of nearby towns much less adjacent counties.
It’s worth noting that the exceedingly UNPOPULAR GOP Gov. Rick Scott (nobody admits to voting for him, but apparently they did in central, northern regions) tapped Corey to take over the case. That was after clueless and likely crooked Norm Wolfinger bailed as Seminole/Duval state attorney due to sealed “personal” concerns after failing to charge Fogen. This could be the only intelligent thing Scott has done in his entire gubernatorial term.
Likely there are turf battles going on in legal-political circles, but not sure whether average joe voters and/or PJs are into this.
Will former Florida GOP Gov. Charlie Crist, he of the perpetual suntan (who turned independent but lost in a U.S. Senate race and who now has turned Democrat) run against Scott for governor, and will the Fogen machinations play a role?
Somehow I don’t think Seminole County jurors are going to care that BDLR and Guy are from Jax.
Interesting, thank you for your comment and observations. That the average PJs are not part of a turf thing is comforting.
I lived in a SW state for 36 years that is comparable to Florida in its white Republican mentality, (and the county I lived in for the last of those 17 years had open KKK rallies as late as the 1920s). There were definitely some ideological tug of wars going on there (still are!) between various counties or municipalities and the state over various issues. So my perception is the same for FL. I think the same hometowning phenomena probably happens in a lot of states when there’s a big difference in outlook between conservative rural / surburban residents and the more sophisticated and liberal urban residents. Or sometimes there’s just a big mash-up of values with strange bedfellows on some issues.
I had a Frankfort attorney tell me that if I was going to write about my legal case, to separate the ‘rest of Kentucky’ from Western Kentucky. I am dead serious, so we see the phenomenon here, for sure. It’s more like two or three states.
Correction, I was wrong: Norm Wolfinger, rumored to be Senior’s pal, was state attorney for Seminole/Brevard, not as I stated earlier.
We had a short downpour yesterday and it helped with containment. Many of the people we heard had been evacuated and all the “pre” evacuation zone are coming back to their homes. Today is a bit cooler and there are some rain storms hanging in a few areas. Hopefully it will be 100% contained soon.
KA… Are you in the Springs?
Thank you Professor and Crane for re-posting this info.
Crane-Station… Thanks for the update, been busy all day. Nice to find 65% contained!
Sorry to say no, wish I could be there to meet you and just to show love and support to the whole Fulton/Martin family. Enjoy and if you do find Memorial could you take pictures so that Fred could put them up.
I certainly do plan to take pictures. I so want to see the memorial and the entrance to RTL.
Safe to say Omaras’ disrespect for Judicial Ethics, Judicial System, Judge Nelson and his horrible smear attacks of Trayvon that he can not even consider the three categories Professor has written for us.
Omara knows defense can not prevail, left with only one option to seat one or two jurors whose minds will not change regardless overwhelming evidence stalemating the jury creating a Hung Jury.
I hate to say this but I doubt if he’ll put fogen on the stand and attempt to argue self defense. I believe Omara will do his best to continue his smear attack on Trayvon during trial. Omara closing argument will be a continuation of what we have recently seen blaming Trayvon.
Desperate to contain the saran wrapped racists keeping them from leaking and absorbing the facts of the case, actually thinking and realizing defense is lying from counsel to the defendant fogen.
I have come to this conclusion since watching last weeks jury selection realizing defense focus questions generally lead back to the most recent photos and coverage. For the purpose to see just how much and how many PJs’ based their opinions on the lies he(omara) told, ergo how deep is the posion. To be used as defense method to select or exempt PJs’.
Great analogy and metaphor!
Bernie will object, if O’Mara argues facts that are not evidence, and the judge will remind the jury that arguments of counsel are not evidence. She will tell them to disregard anything that is not supported by the evidence admitted in court.
Hello All and Happy Fathers Day to all the daddy’s out there!
Will the HOA settlement come up during the proceedings?
Does the state have more evidence that the defense is aware of but did not release it because it does not look good for the killer?
Can the murderer really claim self defense and not take the stand to explain?
I’m waiting to see the phone logs and hear what the witnesses have to say about their conversations with the defendant before and after the shooting.
Defendant pretty much has to testify to back up his claim of self-defense.
Thanks Professor for putting my mind at ease. That was my concern, Omara trying to get a hung jury.
I think MOM’s plan is to use cross-examination to make the self-defense claim so that fogen doesn’t have to testify. I also think that BDLR will use the exhibits and witnesses and questions that will foil MOM’s plan. I really, really want to watch fogen tell a story. I can’t imagine which one he’ll pick since sites such as this one have shown them all to be impossible.
Bettykath, I don’t think Fogen can “choose” a story and stick to it. 
I think MOM is expecting BDLR to use one or more of the various interviews or the walk-thru or the voice stress interview or some other bit that can be used to show one or another of fogen’s stories that claim self-defense. BDLR doesn’t need to do this. He just needs to show the crime, the condition of Trayvon’s body (autopsy report), the condition of fogen’s body (EMT report and Physician Assistant report) and who did it with depraved indifference (or whatever the requirement for 2nd degree murder). Of all of fogen’s statements/interviews, BDLR doesn’t need to use much more than the NEN call to show fogen’s state of mind. He will carefully keep all references to self-defense out of the state’s presentation. It will then be up to the defense to show self-defense.
bettykath~ Sounds right. FORCE gz up there. The DESTROY all of his lies.
I would like the dash cam recordings. They record the sound inside the police vehicles. I would love to hear what GZ was saying and to whom, while he was waiting in Smith’s car.
Do you think there is a chance they will surface?
I can see him getting creamed either way.
Short version: He’s fucked.
Crane~