CREATE TABLE table_name_23 (total VARCHAR2, first_round VARCHAR2, finals VARCHAR2)

Can you tell me the total number of Total that has the First round of 0, and the Finals smaller than 5?
SELECT COUNT(total) FROM table_name_23 WHERE first_round = "0" AND finals < 5
SELECT COUNT("total") FROM "table_name_23" WHERE "0" = "first_round" AND "finals" < 5