CREATE TABLE table_name_72 (against VARCHAR2, losses VARCHAR2, byes VARCHAR2)

What is the number listed under against when there were less than 13 losses and less than 2 byes?
SELECT COUNT(against) FROM table_name_72 WHERE losses < 13 AND byes < 2
SELECT COUNT("against") FROM "table_name_72" WHERE "byes" < 2 AND "losses" < 13