CREATE TABLE table_7109 ("Gold Medals" FLOAT, "Silver Medals" FLOAT, "Bronze Medals" FLOAT, "4th Place" FLOAT, "5th Place" FLOAT, "Appearances" FLOAT)

What is the total number of 4th place that has 3 appearances for 3, and a more than 0 silver medals, and no gold medals?
SELECT COUNT("4th Place") FROM table_7109 WHERE "Appearances" = '3' AND "Silver Medals" > '0' AND "Gold Medals" < '0'
SELECT COUNT("4th Place") FROM "table_7109" WHERE "Appearances" = '3' AND "Gold Medals" < '0' AND "Silver Medals" > '0'