CREATE TABLE table_2850912_8 (position VARCHAR2, nhl_team VARCHAR2, player VARCHAR2)

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SELECT COUNT(position) FROM table_2850912_8 WHERE nhl_team = "Detroit Red Wings" AND player = "Urban Nordin"
SELECT COUNT("position") FROM "table_2850912_8" WHERE "Detroit Red Wings" = "nhl_team" AND "Urban Nordin" = "player"