CREATE TABLE table_52574 ("Player" CLOB, "Tries" CLOB, "Conv" CLOB, "Pens" CLOB, "Drop" CLOB, "Venue" CLOB, "Date" CLOB)

Which pens has 1 tries and matt alexander as a player with conv of 4?
SELECT "Pens" FROM table_52574 WHERE "Tries" = '1' AND "Player" = 'matt alexander' AND "Conv" = '4'
SELECT "Pens" FROM "table_52574" WHERE "Conv" = '4' AND "Player" = 'matt alexander' AND "Tries" = '1'