0fd8a116_st_with_Ron_Jacobs___Channel_9__Transcript
[Speaker] Ron [Start Time] 0:14:14.3 [Transcript] 
Well it depends on how advanced you want to get. Right! And so the very simplest way is to do these things are always going to be very tightly bounded to the contract or at least they are today.
ARCast - The Evolution of Architecture with Martin Fowler | ARCast with Ron Jacobs | Channel 9
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