0fd8a116_st_with_Ron_Jacobs___Channel_9__Transcript
[Speaker] Ron [Start Time] 0:29:25.3 [Transcript] 
Yeah, well and you know the thing we always struggled with when I was in patterns and practices team is thinking about, “OK! We created a book, like integration patterns, but how do we help drive that experience into the day to day work of the people who have to get these things done?” and probably the easiest way is to take a pattern, patterns, the patterns and bake them into the framework that the people can just apply but that quickly becomes difficult because the frameworks begins to grow exponentially and become very complex beasts on their own. And we were after the silver bullet victories like you said, and sometimes they are very difficult to achieve. Whereas, you know, just taking a small pattern, understanding and applying it is really the goal.
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