0fd8a116_st_with_Ron_Jacobs___Channel_9__Transcript
[Speaker] Ron [Start Time] 0:26:05.8 [Transcript] 
Yeah. So, let me ask a little bit about patterns, because this is one of the things you are well known for. And I am always grasping about how are patterns really, really helping people, architects in the real world, I mean, other than that, we know a lot the people have bought the books and they have them seen on their shelf, but when do they become… how do you make them actually helpful in your daily work?
ARCast - The Evolution of Architecture with Martin Fowler | ARCast with Ron Jacobs | Channel 9
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