0fd8a116_st_with_Ron_Jacobs___Channel_9__Transcript
[Speaker] Martin [Start Time] 0:30:45.0 [Transcript] 
So I think as a fundamental activity, software development is always going to be hard and always going to benefit most of having talented people working on it. What we can do is try and accelerate the process as much as we can, make the whole thing as rapid and have new and different kinds of pain instead of the old ones.
ARCast - The Evolution of Architecture with Martin Fowler | ARCast with Ron Jacobs | Channel 9
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