in their comfort zone when they arrive, it might be that they can barely talk about a spider, and if they start talking about the different parts of the spider they start to feel sick. so that might be their comfort zone. so we want to push their comfort zone and make it bigger. so, the first step is to talk about spiders quite a bit so they’re comfortable with that. and then look at spiders so they’re comfortable with that, and then maybe look at a live one, and then maybe hold a container with a spider in it, and then maybe touch a dead spider, and then touch 