they have lost all hope and no illusion for their future. they are perfect for hooking up to troublesome pontoon tow points. shipping lead time for complete systems run between 3-5 working days. check the rules for your state! i was impressed with how easy it was to take a couple thou off in a controlled manner, test fit, try again. i encourage anyone who has experienced these symptoms to contact me. this created a peaceful little swimming area with very clear water that i really wanted to go swimming in, so we decided to have a proper beach day the next day. 