unknown speaker: this is pretty much the same thing, i guess, some more people out there that can manage. in any event, many collectors are quite upset by this news. that was a huge deal for me. we did not go anywhere on christmas eve because the brakes in our car are shot. but if you want to take the fastest path to results and want all the advantage you can get, we 100% recommend taking all 5 products. when you are spending a lot of time on the road, it is quite handy if one person wants to take a rest. 