8 and 17 signals and saw that they were at danger. finishing stone is similar to sanding process: smaller grit and longer sanding gives stone more shinny polished look, whereas less will make it look more natural. i am having difficulty moving on to complete my application. but there's always a risk associated with holding on to a young player, same as there's a risk in letting them go. since we're all talking about this topic, i guess i should talk about it too. give yourself some space for new experience. 