they did an excellent job in keeping to the program". as i'm sure you are aware, it has been raining in l.a. for approximately six days straight, and i could not be more happy about it! i love how you put them on top of an upside down glass. if we are dealing with normal people, we can come up with three good things to think about them. what position would i like to be in? that is right - it is noisy and without charm. which one is going to be best for your budget? 