they always turn out perfectly, better than ones i try to do from scratch. it also helps to have a good coach, which i don't think he got from the main coach at football. try the traditional round / crew neck and also a v-neck. just pick a reasonable time goal and keep to that pace (try not to get caught up in the moment and go out too quick). he looks at all of the book boxes you have packed. we have learned so much in the last few weeks, both about each other and about ourselves. 