i really don't know, but pup is driving and we need to know, yes? could be anything, but it will be entertaining. the group is limited in number, so i ask the d´sherry explorers, that want to attend, to please make your reservation as soon as possible. here’s some pictures from the first time!) the rock wall just crops out of the middle of the flat, flat desert. great quality, easy to assemble, delivery on time and in good condition. don’t have money to just throw out the window? 