yes, well i was divided between my interest in the arts, literature and the visual arts, and my business. in a way, i enjoyed business too, because i think i'm more or less a man of action, and i maybe not, was not able to to do great things in studying art and writing about it, because i i like to be together with people to work, to negotiate, to act, so to say. so i enjoyed business, but it it it split me into two parts, because every day when i came back, i always had to read, and, or to go to concerts, and to to go after 