` ` I do n't think it 's going to be painless , '' Mr Fox says . People will be cut in the effort to get a ` ` leaner and less centralized '' Yes . He says they are more likely to hurt those at the top .
`` I do n't pretend it 's going to be painless , '' Liam Fox says . Jobs will be cut in the effort to get a `` leaner and less centralized '' ministry . He says cuts are more likely to hit those at the top .