Chris Matthews , co - host of new talk show , ` ` New Day '' chimes in on this week 's podcast . Dean Obeidallah and Cuomo disagree on whether Edward Snowden is a traitor or hero . Obeidallah , John McCain and Margaret Hoover are outraged by the worst charities in the U.S. To listen to this week 's podcast , click on the Soundcloud audio player on this page or find us on iTunes . Last , the three discuss erotic books and the scandal involving congressional staffer Avril Haines .
Chris Matthews , co - host of new talk show , ` ` New Day '' chimes in on this week 's podcast . Dean Obeidallah and Cuomo disagree on whether Edward Snowden is a traitor or hero . Obeidallah , John McCain and Margaret Hoover are outraged by the worst charities in the U.S. Last , the three discuss erotic books and the scandal involving congressional staffer Avril Haines .