In 1981, he traveled with Stephen Gaskin and Ina May Gaskin to New Zealand to attend an indigenous festival at Nambassa, where he delivered a number of lectures and workshops.
ɪn nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd ˈeɪɾi wˈʌn, hiː tɹˈævəld wɪð stˈiːvən ɡˈæskɪn ænd ɪnɐ mˈeɪ ɡˈæskɪn tə nˈuː zˈiːlənd tʊ ɐtˈɛnd ɐn ɪndˈɪdʒənəs fˈɛstɪvəl æt næmbˈæsə, wˌɛɹ hiː dᵻlˈɪvɚd ɐ nˈʌmbɚɹ ʌv lˈɛktʃɚz ænd wˈɜːkʃɑːps.