æt ðə sˈeɪm tˈaɪm hiː wʌz ɐn ɐdvˈaɪzɚɹ ˌɔn spˈeɪs mˈæɾɚz tə ðə jˌʊɹɹəpˈiən kəmˈɪʃən, ænd ɪn nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd nˈaɪnti wˈʌn dˈæʃ tˈuː hiː hˈɛlpt fˈɔːɹmjʊlˌeɪt spˈeɪs pˈɑːlɪsi fɚðə jˌʊɹɹəpˈiən jˈuːniən.
At the same time he was an advisor on space matters to the European Commission, and in 1991-2 he helped formulate space policy for the European Union.