ˈæftɚ ɹᵻtˈaɪɚɹɪŋ fɹʌm ɡˈʌvɚnmənt ɪn nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd nˈaɪnti wˈʌn, hiː spˈɛnt hɪz tˈaɪm æz ɐ kənsˈʌltənt, kˈɑːməntˌeɪɾɚɹ ænd kˈɑːləmnˌɪst fɔːɹ bˌiːsˈiː ɹᵻpˈoːɹt, ænd lˈɛktʃɚɹɚɹ æt tɹˈɪnᵻɾi wˈɛstɚn jˌuːnɪvˈɜːsᵻɾi.
After retiring from government in 1991, he spent his time as a consultant, commentator and columnist for BC Report, and lecturer at Trinity Western University.