ɪnðə lˈeɪt nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd ˈeɪɾi z, hiː ɐbˈændənd hɪz ˈɜːlɪɚ θiːəlˈɑːdʒɪkəl pəzˈɪʃən, ɐnˈaʊnsɪŋ ðæt hiː hæd ɛkspˈiəɹɪənst ðə kˌæɹɪsmˈæɾɪk ɡˈɪfts fɔːɹ hɪmsˈɛlf θɹuː ðə mˈɪnɪstɹi ʌv dʒˈɑːn wˈɪmbɚ.
In the late 1980s, he abandoned his earlier theological position, announcing that he had experienced the charismatic gifts for himself through the ministry of John Wimber.