lˈækɪŋ sˌɜːɾɪfɪkˈeɪʃənz fɹʌm pɹəfˈɛʃənəl ˌɔːɹɡɐnᵻzˈeɪʃənz, ɡɹˈoʊdən ɐdmˈɪɾᵻd hɪz fətˈɑːɡɹəfi tɹˈeɪnɪŋ ɹᵻlˈaɪd ˌɔn hɪz ɛkspˈiəɹɪəns æz ɐ pɹəfˈɛʃənəl fˈoʊɾoʊ lˈæb tɛknˈɪʃən.
Lacking certifications from professional organizations, Groden admitted his photography training relied on his experience as a professional photo lab technician.