dˈʊɹɹɪŋ hɪz tˈaɪm wɪððɪ ˈɔːl blˈæks, hiː wˈoːɹ ðə nˈʌmbɚɹ ˈeɪt dʒˈɜːsi ænd wʌz kənsˈɪdɚd ɐn ˈɛksələnt bˈɔːl wˈɪnɚ ænd ɐn ɪfˈɛktɪv dᵻfˈɛndɚ.
During his time with the All Blacks, he wore the Number eight jersey and was considered an excellent ball winner and an effective defender.