sˈiːspˈæn ˈɪntɚvjˌuː hˈɛld ˈeɪpɹəl twˈɛnti sˈɪks, tˈuː θˈaʊzənd wˈʌn wɪð dʒˈeɪmz bˈæmfɚd ˌɔn hɪz bˈʊk bˈɑːdi ʌv sˈiːkɹᵻts:  ˌeɪtʃtˌiːtˈiːpˌiːˈɛs:slˈæʃslæʃ dˌʌbəljˌuːdˌʌbəljˌuːdˈʌbəljˌuː.sˈiːspˈæn.ˈɔːɹɡ slˈæʃ vˈɪdɪoʊ slˈæʃ?wˈʌnhˈʌndɹɪd sˈɪksti fˈoːɹ θˈaʊzənd tˈuːhˈʌndɹɪd θˈɜːtiːn dˈæʃ wˈʌn slˈæʃ bˈɑːdisˈiːkɹᵻtsnˈæʃənəlsᵻkjˈʊɹɹᵻɾiˈeɪdʒənsi
C-SPAN interview held April 26, 2001 with James Bamford on his book Body of Secrets:  https://www.c-span.org/video/?164213-1/body-secrets-national-security-agency