ɪn nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd nˈaɪnti fˈaɪv, hiː mˈuːvd tə ðə slˈɪm dʒˈɪm ˈɔːl pɹˈoʊ sˈɪɹiz, wˌɛɹ hiː wˈʌn tˈuː ɹˈeɪsᵻz ænd hæd sˈɪkstiːn tˈɑːptˈɛn stˈɑːɹts ɪn twˈɛntiwˈʌn stˈɑːɹts.
In 1995, he moved to the Slim Jim All Pro Series, where he won two races and had sixteen top-ten starts in twenty-one starts.