ɪn nˈaɪntiːnhˈʌndɹɪd ˈeɪɾi hiː sˈɜːvd æz wˈʌn ʌv fˈoːɹ pˈænɪlˌɪsts ɪnðə nˈæʃənəli tˈɛlᵻvˌaɪzd dᵻbˈeɪts bᵻtwˌiːn pɹˈɛzɪdənt dʒˈɪmi kˈɑːɹɾɚ ænd ɹˈɑːnəld ɹˈeɪɡən.
In 1980 he served as one of four panelists in the nationally televised debates between President Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan.