ɪn mˈɑːɹtʃ tˈuː θˈaʊzənd wˈʌn hiː ɡˈeɪv ðə kˈiːnoʊt spˈiːtʃ æt ðɪ ˈænjuːəl kˈɑːnfɹəns ʌvðɪ ɐsˌoʊsɪˈeɪʃən ʌv dˈɛθ ˌɛdʒuːkˈeɪʃən ænd kˈaʊnsəlɪŋ.
In March 2001 he gave the keynote speech at the annual conference of the Association of Death Education and Counseling.