Hagar, I realize you know very little about the Packers, that is why I was filling you in.
Apparently you also don't realize the importance of getting rid of your team's greatest weakness, and how that can help lead to a SB victory. Well I have seen it with the Packers, and getting rid of Buckley, and adding a few pieces like Sean Jones, Keith Jackson, Andre Rison, and replacing their LT midseason, was also important towards getting them a SB victory.
I have watched enough of Waynes, and although he played better last year, I think it will likely improve the team if they get rid of him.
WOW, two consecutive posts about your beloved pack winning a SB... this time under the guise of cutting Waynes!
I hope through Viking fans seeing the light, it will by osmosis, filter it's way up to Vikings management to do the right thing and trade Wayne's.
Status: offline Brad realizes Waynes is a weakness, the rest of you are homers that don't realize Waynes is likely to play a role in a playoff loss, should they keep him.
Hughes is already better than Waynes. Hill will probably pass up Waynes this next season. Rhodes is better than Waynes, Rhodes just had an off year. I am not sure about McKenzie.
Hughes and Rhodes need to stay healthy, and Hill needs to stay off the weed. They can draft a CB in the 1st round that will probably pass up Waynes in about 6 games, or draft one in the 3rd or 4th round that can pass him up in about a year. Plenty of options.
right to be as wrong as you want.
Status: offline I see Waynes as higher on the list, though OL and Cousins are a concern.
I agree that it's fine if we disagree, I will be quite happy to be proven wrong if they keep Waynes, and he follows up with another strong season, and strong post season play, should they make the playoffs.
Getting rid of a player only makes the team better if the replacement plays better. There is no guarantee that there is anyone on this roster that can replace his production. He's not nearly our greatest weakness either.
He is not a weakness at all. This notion that he would addition by subtraction is just pure nonsense.
Status: offline Probably true, and no team ever won a SB with Buckley, and the same will probably be true with Waynes.
And we might say the same some day about Kirk Cousins.
Using your logic, you know less about the Vikings.
I could see Waynes going between when the draft finishes night one and starts the 2nd day. Teams at the top of the 2nd round eyeing what's left at CB and weighing that against giving up their 2nd rp for an established player.
I think we'd all be ok with that.
I know that I'm in the minority, but, I hate the thought of getting rid of our best CB.
It was also painful watching Sherels try to fill in at CB last year.
I would love to keep Waynes.
I'm just not sure how you can have 8 defensive players making 10M+ per year.
is beat he acts like a sniper shot him in the thigh.
I still think I'd keep Waynes. He had a down year by his standards, but he's a legit Top 5 CB. And there is only a 2 year age difference between the two.
And the dead money from trading X is a huge issue compared to Waynes.
I appreciate this take. If I remember correctly, you weren't big on Waynes. No emotional attachment. See it, say it. Waynes is a very good NFL CB, and I don't think he has hit his ceiling yet.
Rhodes has been a fantastic CB. I would prefer to keep both.
Status: online The updated big board is interesting to me.
Status: online It's kind of silly to do a 7 round mock draft, but it's entertaining.
"Starting at QB". Come on people, you can't argue the facts.
The updated big board is interesting to me.
DT Simmons will be interesting.
He probably won't play until December and probably not 100% then.
Seems like a NE or SEA type of 1st round pick.
I see they have the Pukers taking Cody Ford at #30, in that hypothetical scenario I'd love a trade down to the late 20s, snipe Ford, could earn us late 2nd/early 3rd round draft capital.
Status: offline I was wrong, should have googled it, my subconscious mind was trying to remind me of Buckley playing for the Patriots, probably just didn't want to remember it, as I had associated his departure from the Pack, as one of the improvements towards their winning the SB,1996.
Well this shows the Vikes could win the SB with Waynes CB, but then again, the Vikes don't have a young Tom Brady at QB, and nor do they have a Belichick at HC. Let's just hope for the best.
Status: offline I won't, that is usually just for someone that either knows his team will lose, or someone that feels underappreciated.
Status: online The Vikings should be able to select two of the players on this list.
Hill is coming off a serious knee injury. How can you count on him to be effective at all, least of all better than Waynes. Trae isn't all pro, but he plays as well as most CB starters in the league, if not better. If he signs elsewhere next year, which is likely, we will likely net a 3rd rounder. I'd need better than a 3rd rounder this year to let him go, prefer a OL starter like others, unless I'm positive that Hughes and Hill will be better. I think that is an unknown at this juncture. People, not just you, want to dump him for basically nothing. I want a significant return and a very high probability that our 2 promising CB's with significant ????'s will be available and highly productive.