If admins had the rights to change certain aspects of the new bar (like the scroll option) or even revert it back to the old format, would that cause greater problems or alleviate the current problems?
Those are meaningless comparisons. You're comparing something that is forced upon us with something that can be discussed within a community. Communities can remove laggy JS snow or change crappy text colours. They can't change a huge navbar without getting their just desserts from the ToU.
I was discussing the extent to which admins might be able to customise the Wikia bar. The comparisons are relevant in that context.
Yes, but the snow and menu bars are wiki wide.
What I'm getting at is that there's already a lot admins can do.
On the one hand, you could argue that the new Wikia bar is fairly prominent at the moment, and having extensive customisation options might allow admins to make it as inconspicuous as possible. That would be bad as far as Wikia is concerned.
But is changing the scroll option more disruptive than adding snow, messing around with navigation or changing text colour (for individual wikis I mean)?
Still, how much is too much customisation? People are already creating falling snow and customised menu bars.
What? Over colour? That's what I was referring too... and what I thought Myotragus was referring to.
I also disagree with it being changeable on a wiki scale. Not eveyone a wiki (particularly large ones) will agree on which look better, so having it individual is better anyway.
One could argue that not everyone agrees on background style, text colour or infobox layout, yet individual wikis are able to make decisions about the way they look. Most wikis have processes in place to decide themes.
Bit of selection bias going on here.
But I will agree with those who have argued for colour customisation. You can change the colour of almost everything else, why not this? It looks okay on wikis with blue-ish colour schemes, but it clashes with practically everything else.
I thought they were all for customisation. Perhaps not...
Usually it's when I'm logged out.
Anyone else get this? Wikis crash all the time with Internet Explorer. All the time. Often I can't get past the main page of a Wiki without going into Task Manager. It has only recently been this bad.
With Chrome it is better but IE is my traditional browser.
So what is it? Ads?
Wait? What? How?
Hi there, unfortunately I've been having the same problem. See the threads Navbox template and Collapsible navboxes... they might give you some ideas if nothing else.
Je ne comprends pas scripte format en anglais. Tu veux dire "source mode"?
Sorry if I've got this wrong. You have posted a picture with a French name somewhere else and script format sounds like something you'd get if your browser is in another language.
BTW it's supposed to be collapsible but it's not on my wiki.
Now going to stick these around my wiki!
I CRACKED IT!
Copy ALL the template codes here to your wiki!
No others came up as being necessary. Huh. What's missing?