The saying that's used in not writing kids' importance/efforts off: Ọwọ́ ọmọdé/èwe ò tó pẹpẹ; Ti àgbàlagbà ò wọ akèrègbè (a kid's hand isn't high enough to reach the altar; the elder's hand can't enter a gourd) ... Is gotten from a verse in Odù Ifá, ÌWÒRÌ MÉJÌ