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George Zimmerman – Again
Posted by towerflower
At about 1 pm in Lake Mary, FL, on Lake Mary Blvd near 1-4, George Zimmerman was once again making the news. I don’t know about you but I’m not surprised, I made a comment the other day on Twitter how it was about time for him to once again make the news.
It involved a road rage incident (his second). The driver of a Lexus claims that Zimmerman waved a gun at him so he fired back. The bullet entered the passenger side window of Zimmerman’s Honda and Zimmerman was slightly injured in the face by flying glass/debris. The bullet missed him.
The driver of the other car drove to a strip center and begged a man returning from lunch to call 911 for him, and that he just shot George Zimmerman. It should be interesting to note that this center is very near his former ex-girlfriend’s dentist office from his last domestic violence incident.
The 911 caller was interviewed by CNN, and this is where it gets interesting. Personally, I can’t believe others didn’t pick it up. The caller says the shooter didn’t have a phone and to please call police. The man complied and he said that the shooter’s name is Matt Apperson, and that he has had at least 3 prior incidents with George Zimmerman.
Matt Apperson is none other that the same man who was involved with the last road rage incident with George Zimmerman back in Sept. 2014. He didn’t want to file charges back then but now, has taken it a step further.
Early reports are saying that George Zimmerman waved a gun at him so he shot back at him. You would have thought that Zimmerman would give this guy a very wide berth knowing after the last incident that the man is a licensed concealed carry in the State of FL. But then again we are talking about Zimmerman.
Reports are also saying that Apperson is cooperating fully with police, while Zimmerman is refusing to cooperate.
News is still breaking and I’ll add if anything big changes, but keep in mind I don’t have the expertise to add things like Xena does.
(Xena believes that Towerflower does. She’s a quick learner.)
From Wesh TV. They had problems with the sound.
Posted on 05/11/2015, in Conceal Carry & SYG, George and Shellie Zimmerman and tagged George Zimmerman, injured, Lake Mary, Matt Apperson, road rage, shot. Bookmark the permalink.	190 Comments.
so ironic, the last few days I’ve had Zippy on my mind, thinking of how long it’s been since he was involved in an ‘incident’ and how any day now there would be one.
found this on twitter;
akacharleswade
Zimmerman ain’t hurt? Oh.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEv94RaW8AAHH_X.jpg:large
Me too. Like clockwork and my intuition must’ve been telling me it’s time for another incident.
isn’t that eerie?
Maybe the time that elapses between gz events represents the time it takes gz to read all the articles and all the comments on his earlier “incident”. 🙂 Then, perhaps, when there is nothing more for him to read, he gets edgy and gets into trouble.
I have been checking the news regularly (except for today – going over estate matters with my sister) for the last few days saying the same thing, that GZ is due to surface any time now. SMH
Hmmm – this one says “West said before the news conference that Zimmerman thought he knew who was responsible for the shooting and is cooperating with authorities.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-george-zimmerman-involved-shooting-florida-30961785
Don West has given a statement on Z’s version……Z was minding his own business when a vehicle approached from behind, honking horn and flashing lights. The vehicle pulled up on passenger side and when Z recognized Apperson he rolled up his passenger window and then Apperson shot.
I’m not surprise after all in his mind he is always the victim and others are always to blame.
I wonder if he had a gun in the vehicle with him. I hope there were witnesses.
of course he is going to lie thats in his DNA problem is Georgie has had 2 previous incidents involving this man and its on record
shyloh | 05/12/2015 at 4:56 am
Of course he was “minding his own business.” Gun slinging is his business. Sounds like a confession to me!! Just saying.
#Breaking #Video of #GeorgeZimmerman being treated after gunshot @WESH pic.twitter.com/7kWD6k8c2B
— Stewart Moore (@Stewartmoore) May 11, 2015
WESH interviewed a couple of workers who saw him getting released from hospital. They said they saw no injuries, walked normal, seemed calm, no bandages, and then got into a LE vehicle.
Wanna bet he shows up later wearing huge bandages?
I don’t know. LOL! Unless Shellie is around to apply knuckle bandages or he has another girlfriend with maxi-pads, he might not have bandages this time around.
Saw no injuries, walked normal, seemed calm – why does that sound so familiar?
um hmm, exactly Rachael
Lake Mary PD won’t confirm if a gun was with Zimmerman.
I think ABC confirmed it tonight that he had a gun.
Of course he had one, he has publicly stated before he always carries, Lake Mary PD won’ confirm it.
pilcherje | 05/11/2015 at 4:14 pm
Not that Zippy’s character wasn’t evident before…but this half cocked trigger happy one step over the line danger to himself and the public has an insatiable revenge streak. I get it. Now I’m waiting for the fleas to soothe the beast.
How peculiar, even auto correct gets it… 😊
LOLOL.
Lisa Bloom @LisaBloom
· 3h 3 hours ago
George Zimmerman shot in face in road rage case. By my count it’s his 5th angry gun related incident in which he claims to be the victim.
Talib Kweli Greene @TalibKweli
George Zimmerman constantly involved in violent altercations where police are called. But Trayvon Martin was the “thug.” #BlackLivesMatter
My take…………..Fogen wouldn’t let the 1st road rage incident pass, and has been stalking Apperson and decided that, well, he’s coated with Teflon, he’d rub it in and start waving his gun around.
Apperson……….”Fearing for his life” “defended himself”
Don, “I’m really an idiot West” props up the same old “everyone’s picking on him, and ya know, he was just minding his own business.”
Now, Fogen is unemployable…………….so what are the chances of his crossing paths with Mr. Apperson again ?? Hmmmmmmmmmm ?????
Fuck you Don and the same for PhuckingFogenPhoole.
Pardon my Phrench
This whole thing is odd.
Does “odd” really describe it ??
Does Fogen think he’s, like, some Wild, Wild West character ?? Gun play as a normal everyday thing ??
How many of us, in the real world, know of anyone who now has at least half a dozen incidents where a gun was drawn, or threatened to be drawn, and shots fired, and someone was hit or killed ?? I’m thinking 99.99999% of us will have to say 0
What the hell is in the water down there ????
Things we’ll never hear from or about Fogen
“I was on my way to work when……”
“I was just sitting at my desk, doing my job when……”
“So this kindly old black man needed a hand getting his groceries into his car so naturally I gave him a hand”
“I love what the Pastor at our Church has to say every Sunday”
“Oh, my bad………I’m so sorry”
“Yeah, guns just create reasons for crime”
“No, that’s okay, dinner’s on me….what, with all you’ve done for me so far”
“I just hated taking all that money from them on the internet”
“He’s just such a, well…a good guy”
“Here, use my truck……”
“No thanks, I’ve had too much to eat already”
“I filled out an application last week…..has anybody been hired yet?”
“It was nothing, I don’t need to be on TV…..talk to those guys”
“You can never have enough education”
“Maybe I should take that job”
“I think I’ll send some money for child support to Sam…..”
“……….guilty, Your Honor”
“The troubles in my marriage to Shellie were mostly my fault”
“I really shouldn’t carry this gun around, hell, somebody might get hurt, or I might lose my temper and then……………..”
Yep……….he’s a real prince.
This one cracked me up…
But then again I’ve got a pretty weird sense of humor.
That cracked me up too. Because you can make lots of excuses for the more complicated stuff, but the intense overeating is about simple impulse control.
I do have an ex-boyfriend (almost 40 years ago) who also shot a man after instigating the incident (fortunately long after we broke up) and he’s has since been involved in all sorts of incidents – sending stepkid to break out car windows, etc. and some stuff that may be bigger – I heard some lurid rumors years ago – and I’m sure he’s done plenty that I don’t know about because he had those meltdowns at predictable time intervals. This is what I see in GZ too. My ex is definitely a narcissist, and narcissists are on a spectrum, so my ex is malignant, definitely sociopathic because he’s a chronic thief and liar, I found out as he slowly revealed himself to me and the world. I think GZ is not quite as far out angry as my ex but he’s quite a bit slyer, using his slurry soft voice to make the public think he’s mellow. My ex-boyfriend just showed his anger all the time, no charm included.
Well………..there ya go. You fit the 0.000001 % !!!
ugh, we’re dealing with a young female in our lives at the moment, who pretty much fits that description. Sociopath and narcissist.
No fun. I had to move to another part of the state long, long after I’d already broken up with my ex. Malignant narcissists and sociopaths can’t stand it when you draw boundaries or disappear.
ABC is suppose to have an interview with Zimmerman tonight. He just can’t resist coming on camera to give his story, but at least this time, his victim isn’t dead and can speak for himself.
Uhhhhmmmmmmmmm, let me guess. It wasn’t his fault, but the BIG question is……….
………………………….would he change anything about what happened today ??
Racer, GZ said what he did on 2/26/12 was all God’s plan. He must believe the same for everything — unless Obama, the media, and social media are also God, because that is who he blames.
I’m kind of wondering why he hasn’t blamed me for anything?? ……….yet.
“He just can’t resist coming on camera to give his story”
Yeah, and do you remember how he called 911 to go on and on about his side of the story in his domestic violence incident against Samantha?
I wonder if he’ll blame President Obama for this too
eurobrat | 05/11/2015 at 8:23 pm
Weird how Obama being in office just makes everyone do such crazy things! Thanks a lot, Obama! 😉
I wonder if this means we’ll see another video made by his divorce lawyer.
2nd time this is not by chance obviously Zimmerman has beef he wants to settle with this man but did not think this man would stand his ground. Lake Mary has some serious decisions to make as the cat is now out of the bag this man has went to the local police regarding zimmerman before and they have allowed it to be swept under the rug now we see just how far this has come its at the point now in which Guns are being used.
Lake Mary Police department has an obligation to protect its citizens and also to protect George from himself. I fully believe Charges are going to be filed once the investigation completes.
What cracked me up some have claimed this man was braggin to the man who called 911 saying “I shot George Zimmerman” let me clarify this the shooter was telling this person to call 911 naming George because George is well known and is also known to carry a gun that wasnt bragging that was informing the citizen call the cops cus I just shot this crazy ass stalker of mine and I dont think he is dead
Yes the other “side” is full of the conspiracies, Z doesn’t live in Florida and was only visiting his mom on Mother’s day…..which was the day before. Apperson is the real stalker, Apperson was bragging about shooting Z, Apperson has a history of a bad temper—-remind me again who has the multiple mug shots. Apperson’s neighbor has called 911 on him–saying he left a dead squirrel on her law–sounds like the neighbor is a bit squirrely.
The conspiracies are building and some quite amusing.
The guy who shot at gz was aiming for gz’s head….look at this photo of the passenger’s window of gz’s vehicle.
I wonder if any traffic cameras captured the incident.
shannoninmiami | 05/11/2015 at 6:30 pm
OH MAN TRAFFIC CAMS! THAT WOULD BE A THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN!
Right???
towerflower | 05/11/2015 at 11:51 pm
NeJame said he has investigators going over scene…you know they will be looking for every camera in the area leading up to the shooting area.
Rachael | 05/12/2015 at 8:53 am
Where I live, they aren’t allowed to use traffic cams that way 😦 I hope they are there!
shannoninmiami | 05/12/2015 at 9:26 am
We do in Florida, and when you get a tickets they send you a link to go look at yourself on video. But I don’t think it was so clear that you can see whats going on inside the car really..
Yes, they do that here too – but they are ONLY allowed to use them for the traffic violations – however, they (at least here) ARE clear enough to see what is going on in side of cars. There was talk about how using the cams could serve in that fashion, but that was decided to be too Big Brother-ish – they are only allowed to use them here for the traffic infarction you are ticketed with (and yes, there are sites you can go to to look at the video – believe me, I’ve had a couple, I know LOL) and not for anything else that is going on – even though (at least here) it is clear enough to see – and if they wanted, they could see drugs and all kinds of things – they knocked that one down. Now business that have cams that look out onto parking lots or the sidewalk, that is another story and police secure the video from businesses all the time – so if there were businesses that capture video that far, that would be the way to do it.
Doesnt matter where he was aiming if George was using his vehicle as a weapon that is no different than using a gun, then George Flashed his gun giving this man no choice to leave anything to chance.
I just realized that gz said he put the window up.
So if the window was going up as Apperson fired his gun, we really don’t know at what level Apperson’s bullet was traveling.
plus an Infinity car is shorter than gz’s vehicle.
I want to know where the bullet ended up in the car–trajectory. Z admits he was rolling up the window, so was the shot actually lower?
Towerflower, EXCELLENT QUESTION! Did it go through the driver’s side window, come to rest in something in the truck?
They say it missed his head by inches and came to rest above driver’s side window frame near the safety handle….the hand grip above a window.
I wonder if he saw it wizzzz by his eyes.
Isn’t GZ a lot shorter. Missed his head by miles.
This is a funny/strange comment coming from a lawyer;
“I don’t believe he had a direct hit with a bullet,” said Don West, Zimmerman’s attorney.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-shooting-lake-mary-20150511-story.html
Yeah, it was just pieces of glass that scratched gz.
(Maybe there were also some flying shards of Cheez-its, also.)
Maybe…..or worse, flying glass got into the Cheez – its.
Well…..we all miss the obvious. Remember those tiny little scratches from 2/2012. He, and his entire posse made them seem to be so horrendous it was a major miracle he survived. Hell, Robbie the Racist claimed Fogen was near having to wear diapers the rest of his life and would have to be spoon fed.
Damn !!!!!! what will Fogen say once he gets in front of a camera about an actual bullet whizzing past his thick skull.
On the other hand, any shot that connects with that brain would have to, by actual damage, be called “a minor wound” since he has nothing working up there.
You can see Matthew Apperson in the video at this link:
http://www.wesh.com/news/raw-video-matthew-apperson-blows-cigarette-smoke-in-camera/32948930
um he looks…nice. /s
Excerpt from this linked article:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/11/us/florida-george-zimmerman-shooting/index.html
An employee at a nearby business, Kenneth Cornell, said he was exiting his car after lunch when a man drove up and started yelling about the shooting.
The man, who identified himself as Apperson, shouted to Cornell: “I shot George Zimmerman, call 911. I don’t have a phone.”
Cornell said Apperson didn’t know whether Zimmerman was hurt. He called 911.
According to Cornell, Apperson told him that he and Zimmerman have had three disputes. This time, Zimmerman waved a gun, and Apperson shot at him, according to Cornell.
I find this waiting game to be exasperating! There’s a lose cannon near my place of residence. I’m nit that far from Lake Mary!
Be careful!
Well………..the way I see it is that Apperson needs to exercise better gun control. That way he’ll hit his target.
………….hey, just sayin’
Thank you. I was trying to think of a way to say that without it sounding like, well…hey, just sayin’
As sad as that is, it’s tragically true. Seems Fogen may have met someone who isn’t going to just say ……”….what are you followin’ me for?”
I have no trepidations here since Fogen likes to pick on kids women, older people and cops. Now he picked on someone that may be his own size.
He picked on someone who also carries with a concealed carry.
Yep…….bet he wasn’t counting on that one.
Well, it’s a lot easier when you pin the arm of your target, grab and hold his shirts, and the target weighs less than you with a 12 year age difference and hasn’t reached maturity.
It looks like Mark NeJame will represent Apperson…..if the name rings a bell it should…..he refused to represent Zimmerman twice and his law firm’s “involvement” was one of the reasons one of the judges were removed from his trial.
Hey towerflower,
Oooh, I remember that now. Thanks for the reminder.
yes, Me too, I remember that!
amnaim | 05/11/2015 at 6:20 pm
This is his third road rage incident.
Hey Amnaim. Welcome to Blackbutterfly7. Yep — Matthew said that this was the third time GZ stalked him, and I believe he said he called the cops both times previously.
Before Trayvon, gz had a road rage case where he followed the person home.
Also NeJame was a big gz booster despite not “representing” him. He want to CNN with the pictures of the black great grand daddy.
It is odd to me that he is representing Apperson. He helped gz craft his initial media message and handed him off to gz’s first media lawyers of shaken baby syndrome.
With NeJame on the opposing side, I think the fix is in. I think he has major conflict of interest.
Third that we know of.
IIRC, he was involved in a road rage incident couple of years prior to 2012. (???? ) I’d have to look to see if I still have his 911 calls including when he called on a former landlord.
Media makes it seem like he’s never been in any trouble until post Trayvon. Not true.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/22/george-zimmerman-s-history-of-911-calls-a-complete-log.html
I confused his reporting a road rage incident with him actually being part of it. 😦
i must note that many still do not call fogen a “thug” but still cling to saying the Trayvon was a “thug” with zero history of violence or crime.
I have no doubt Zimmernut, “such a stupid a** jerk”, is being seen for exactly what he is now, even by those most skeptical in the past.
Flashing his guns, gun shows, repeated traffic stops, stalking’s, road rage, playing “Cop” in the parking lot of a store that didn’t even want him there (and banned him), stupid copied pictures he tried to sell for quick cash, much less violence against Shellie, her Father, and so called girlfriend.
And Trayvon??????? A teen, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and the “Wrong” color to suit Zimmernut. With only a bag of skittles, and a can of tea, Trayvon was stalked, confronted, and killed. (Because wannabe “COP” Zimmernut felt empowered)
And it’s quite obvious this idiot still feels empowered! But his day will come.
RIP Trayvon
Enjoy your wings Honey.
Karma!
As always……well stated.
That would be true. Funny how those racist right wing hate mongers seem to pass off facts like that. To me, all those Fogen mug shots don’t mean anything.
Posted by Croaker Queen:
“Press Conference #2 – Matthew Apperson’s attorney addresses Zimmerman shooting” also includes comments by family)
Thanks Yahtzee for posting. Mark Nejame has gz’s number. He doesn’t want to divulge any info not only because it could obstruct the investigation but he doesn’t want z to twist it to benefit himself. (like he did w/Trayvon)
watch it turn out to be that they do know each other, through some nefarious activity. Does anyone know of/if Apperson’s criminal background?
towerflower | 05/12/2015 at 10:48 am
Apperson has some misdemeanors in his background….possession of pot a couple of times, a DUI 13 yrs ago, and a trespassing (if I remember right); but no felonies.
ah I see! thanks TF!
You’re downright psychic to know Zimmerman is going to get into trouble again 😉 Or…it’s just logical and we all know he will, sooner or later…
On the plus side, I’m a huge Prince fan and was very excited about his Baltimore song/show!
Mr. Militant Negro | 05/11/2015 at 9:12 pm
Mr. Militant Negro | 05/12/2015 at 4:10 am
My pleasure, we must keep people informed.
roderick2012 | 05/12/2015 at 12:11 am
This situation has a false flag quality to it.
1) This incident gets Zimmerman’s name back in the news
2) Zimmerman is only slightly injured
3) Zimmerman is seen as the victim in this situation ( of course we don’t know the entire story)
Kinda good to be Zimmerman today,huh?
Did anyone catch that O’Mara is representing the family of the black man Matthew Ajibade who was bipolar and chained to the chair by nine jail personnel in Georgia?
Is O’Mara working on some type of penitence?
Roderick,
Oh really? Maybe that’s because some of the officers fired are a dark complexion like Matthew.
roderick2012 | 05/12/2015 at 1:24 am
Could be. I guess O’Mara needs to bring home some bacon. The Mrs. may need a new vehicle or some jewelry.
I read this too yesterday, about O’Mara representing the family of Matthew.
The man who called the police:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/witness-recounts-man-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman/story?id=30979872
WESH at noon gave an interesting story about the news conference from Lake Mary PD. They said they are looking into “Aggravated Assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill” charges.
Now lets go to FL Statues:
784.011 Assault.—
(1) An “assault” is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.
(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083
784.021 Aggravated assault.—
(1) An “aggravated assault” is an assault:
(a) With a deadly weapon without intent to kill; or
(b) With an intent to commit a felony.
(2) Whoever commits an aggravated assault shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
I put up the first one because of the definition of assault…….”doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent. ”
Can this mean that they are looking at charging Zimmerman? I say this because of Apperson’s claim that GZ waved his gun at him…..thus creating the act which caused a well founded fear in Apperson that he would be shot. Also with them investigating a charge of a deadly weapon (Z’s gun) without intent to kill (he waved it to scare Apperson but didn’t intend to shoot Apperson).
I hope this is the case.
Also Apperson has admitted to shooting at Z and even thought he shot him so the not intent to kill does not apply to his actions, this is another reason I think they are looking at charging Z.
I agree with you, Towerflower!
O/T –
DA just announced no charges against Ofc. Matt Kenny for the killing of Tony Robinson.
“Tony Robinson Was Unarmed When Fatally Shot By Wisconsin Police Officer”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/07/police-chief-19-year-old_n_6823624.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-911-calls-released-florida-shooting-incident/story?id=30982942
as i now understand fogen had moved and was just visiting….since these 2 had had problems before it is unlikely apperson knew fogen was around, far more likely if it was not a mere chance encounter that is was fogen seeking him out since apperson wouldnt know he was around if he knew he had moved away.
Last seen on Twitter, little Eddie Haskel was in town for Mother’s Day…and had a Dr appointment. We shall see…thinking West may nix interviews for him. Maybe they’ll go for ice cream instead.
Pilcherje,
LOL @ West and gz going for ice cream.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTz3ki31vu91pp74lDj70yvg6HwQU1CkfAAxBwxwWypBHrEzSWR
That makes sense, Bill.
Perhaps gz saw Apperson in the traffic coming toward him. gz then turn on his flashers to make a u-turn and catch up to Apperson. That would explain why gz’s vehicle was on the left side of Apperson’s Infinity car. (Total speculation on my part.)
Well…..FogenPhoole knew where Apperson worked and it’s a matter of public record on at least 2 police reports. I can’t imagine any other scenario than Fogen was back in town to shut off his mom’s electric again for a Mothers day surprise and decided to stalk Apperson.
Fogen’s line of logic would go something like “……I don’t live here anymore so I can do what I want and nobody will suspect the Teflon man” I doubt PhatFogenPhoole ever imagined he have someone return fire.
There is at least 1 witness who said he clearly heard 2 shots. Did FogenPhoole fire and miss ?
Did Apperson return fire ??
This supports what Bill T. said above. There is no way I’d believe Apperson say Fogen and went after him. BUT…..Fogen now has a history of following and provoking people, then turning it around and making himself the victim.
I think Fogen needs to be charged with assault or something relating to brandishing a weapon. Maybe we’ll find he did fire a shot.
If Z did fire at Apperson then the cops should find the spent cartridge in his truck. But the man who was mowing his lawn has said he definitely heard one shot but maybe 2. We know that Apperson used his .357 revolver and only one bullet was fired….since only one spent shell casing was still in revolver.
One of the things several people noticed about Z in his TM interviews….he seems to project what he did as what others did. He even started to slip in one of his Serino interviews about that saying “I” instead of TM.
Police have not decided on whether to press charges. The video includes a portion of the 911 call.
Rachael | 05/12/2015 at 10:37 pm
GZ “is still in a state of shock…this has been a very traumatic event for him.” Too bad, so sad.
He thinks his karma doesn’t stink? Sheesh.
Maybe………….just maybe Fogen had the need to field test his new Extra – Extra – Large bullet proof vest……..maybe ??
“Zimmerman lawyer Don West insisted Apperson was the aggressor and had been chasing him in his car just before the 1 p.m. Monday shooting.
“George decided to do a U-turn to where he had seen a police car parked near a park,” West told The News. ****** “He rolled up his window.”*********
West said Zimmerman had a legally registered gun in his truck but denied he brandished it. He said ******Apperson could not have seen the gun because Zimmerman has tinted windows.”*******
Hummmm – What’s that you say, Don?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-armed-gun-latest-incident-cops-article-1.2219253
Bill Taylor | 05/12/2015 at 11:02 pm
really “he rolled up his window”….meaning when they saw each other the window was DOWN…..get some more ice cream cones dude.
Yeah, West must have forgot about earlier interviews when he said the windows were down. Instead he is following the latest Internet defense….dark windows so he couldn’t have seen Z’s gun…..yeah right.
Now look at that bullet hole in the window, now compare the height of Z…about 5’7″, that bullet hole is at least 5′ from the ground……hmmmmm. Just how high sitting is that Infinity (sorry I thought it was a lexus)? The bullet ended up in the frame above the driver’s window near the safety handle. This shows that the bullet was traveling upwards ever so slightly even if the window was fully up. But Z never says Apperson got out of his car so how did Apperson get a shot like that? Answer: window was still going up and was actually lower when the shot went thru the window. That would make the angle of Apperson sitting in his car and the shot more believable.
You can compare/guesstimate the heights by the photo of Z above.
pilcherje | 05/13/2015 at 12:27 am
Love it, West pitching out of right field. So if Mr. Haskell has dark tinted side windows, how did Apperson know it was him? And you know, Apperson has a job, assuming the same position, I’d venture to guess Apperson wouldn’t jeopardize that position for such a wasted piece of…oh sorry,phone…Happy Mother’s Day Mrs. Zimmerman 😁
While there are lots of grey Honda Ridgelines in the Orlando area, not many have Kel-tec stickers on the back windows.
Don “Vanilla Ice Cream” West says that George won’t give a statement to police until later this week — but he’s cooperating.
So just a statement? Later this week? Need a week to get it crafted just right?
Emphasis on statement = will not submit to questioning? ….but cooperating, of course…in a gz kind of way
“So tell us Z did you see the light?”
For gz, “seeing the light”, probably means he has only scurried under the refrigerator. My guess is that gz will never have a spiritual awakening.
towerflower | 05/13/2015 at 1:25 am
A near-death experience (NDE) is a personal experience associated with impending death, encompassing multiple possible sensations including detachment from the body, feelings of levitation, total serenity, security, warmth, the experience of absolute dissolution, and the presence of a light. (Wikipedia)
When was Z faced with impending death? Gee, according to them he should have experienced a near death experience with TM since he claimed he was one head banging away from death then, smh.
See my reply above at
https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2015/05/11/george-zimmerman-again/#comment-47734
Let me get this right. Zimmerman’s story when he killed Trayvon is that he was having near death experience; head felt like it was going to explode, blood in eyes, being smothered; so he pinned Trayvon’s arm and then aimed and shot the kid in the heart. Zimmerman was talking that night, the next day at work, and then appeared on a “walk-through” video.
But when a bullet whizzes by his head that he didn’t see coming, he can’t talk.
Xena…he is a mess, “almost dies”, according to him, with his encounter with TM and never goes to a hospital but is walking and talking to anyone who will listen and he never claimed to having a near death experience with TM. Now a bullet whizzes in front of his face, he gets a scratch on his arm, and he goes to a hospital in an ambulance, is having a near death experience and can’t talk.
West and his client are fools.
Proof that gz’s life was never in danger from Trayvon, that gz was the aggressor and in complete control of Trayvon, and that it was Trayvon who was desperately crying out for help.
He was calm that night. He is such a fake and liar.
“when sort of the full weight of what he experienced yesterday kind of hit him…” AFAIC, it didn’t hit him hard enough, IYKWIM.
“with his near-death experience, takes a lot of processing to deal with…” Gag me. How much processing is Trayvon doing. Near-death experience OMG. What a drama llama.
“…on track to do the things we need to do.” Like make up some lies.
“Mr. Zimmerman is adamant that he didn’t display, wave, point, brandish the gun that he had.” Of course he didn’t. Ughhhhhh
“I’m confident that under the scenario, as George explained it to me…” Oh yeah. SMH
“…on track to do the things we need to do.”
Like make up some lies.
Yep…we know their routine, don’t we?
Apperson’s lawyer was brilliant to keep Apperson from divulging any details. (by invoking the 5th). Now West has nothing to work with/play around with as he creates gz’s statement.
This is a seriously flawed sack of garbage. (condescending tone and head tilt) and the “near death exp.” line is a laugh. No…….he waved his gun and when Apperson pulled his out he said “Oh…..shit…..Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, please don’t fail me now”
Then he rolled up his window. Get it right Skeletor.
Oh, and by the way, the “how could Apperson see into Fogen’s car if the tinted windows were up is well……your story…….which is diametrically opposed to what Fogen said to the police, which is what actually counts. Fogen said, he saw Apperson point a gun THEN he rolled up the passenger side window….see how easy that was.
Exactly, Racer!
gz is in deep doo doo.
George Zimmerman had moved out of Florida recently, hoping for a fresh start.
Zimmerman had returned to the area for Mother’s Day and a doctor’s appointment, and was driving to his doctor’s office when the confrontation took place, said his attorney, Don West. Apperson works nearby, at a disability-benefits office.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawyer-man-zimmerman-shooting-acted-defense-31003511
Remembering what Dr. Turi wrote about Zimmerman in 2012, I wonder if Zim is getting his prescription drugs from two different locations because ……
On March 26, 2013, Dr. Turi wrote the following about Zimmerman;
Zimmerman’s Moon (emotional response to life) is in his subconscious’ 12th house and motivated him to cleanse the entire neighborhood of “umpurities” or anything he perceived as dirty. This Moon position enunciate living in confinement (jail/hospital) dealing, using drugs or forced into hiding in an island.
We now know that Zim has lived in confinement.
Dr. Turi also wrote:
Neptune (drugs/dementia) is also in the 3rd house afflicting his mental process dictating the high possibility of using drugs which will probably surface in the future.
https://drturi.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/why-george-zimmerman-killed-trayvon-martin/
I don’t think Z will ever have much of a life, considering his track record over the past three years. So his confinement to a small life will continue.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if Apperson and not Z is charged. I mean, I’m hopeful the law will find something to slap Z with, but I look at it like this – it’s awfully hard to prove that Z was brandishing his gun, but there’s proof that Apperson not only brandished but fired his. It appears to me that St. Mary PD would love to charge Z with something but have no real proof of Apperson’s story, unless someone else witnessed the incident. So Z may very well get away with his shizzazz once again.
And where, pray tell, is he living now? Inquiring minds would like to know.
What gz has going against him is that he had his vehicle to the left of Apperson’s.
Aggressors (at least in the movies 🙂 ) bring their vehicles alongside their victims on the left side.
Also, gz had his passenger window down at the beginning of the encounter. (Remember West said that gz put his window up.)
Two sides, I suspect that no charges will be filed against either of them.
Where is he living now? Probably with an older woman in Texas, which is why they are having very strange weather. 🙂
Ha aha!!
I’m still curious as to how he’s surviving financially.
I guess those monthly checks from the NRA for not having a SYG hearing is still paying handsomely.
Hey Roderick! I think by now that Zimmerman has learned to live without money. He didn’t have money on him the night he killed Trayvon. It’s his way of life.
There was an article in the Daily mail where a “friend” says that others give him jobs to help him out. Sounds like he is a professional moocher and is living off of his friends giving him odd jobs and getting paid under the table.
Odd jobs, uh? What if — just what if — instead of Zimmerman plagiarizing paintings and coming on camera with the blame game, he had asked for a job instead? Well, maybe that would not have worked either since he really didn’t wait long after the verdict before he was caught on camera being aggressive to his then father-in-law and destroying Shellie’s Ipad.
Well he isn’t mooching off any women that we know of so who’s feeding the fat phuck because it doesn’t look as if he’s missed any meals.
roderrick……just for the record the NRA wouldn’t touch him. The President of the NRA gave a statement after the shooting and they wouldn’t have anything to do with him. He doesn’t fall into the NRA’s program of a responsible gun owner.
And you believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.
Ha,ha, ha!
Looks like Little Robbie Z is demanding Chief Bracknell to recuse himself from the investigation now why is that Robbie? I understand your claiming Bracknell is Biased due to some e mails that went public in late 2013.
But those E mails were not Biased in any way what you have there is a Police Chief being Brutally Honest in regards to the behavior of your Brother Georgie. and I know Honesty isnt exactly something the zimmerman family is familiar with.
However for such a Biased Chief your brother sure did seem to skip out on charges that could have and should have sent him away for 20 years X’s 2 keep in mind Samantha isn’t the only person George threatened to shoot since he chased and murdered an unarmed kid.
He threatened Shellie & her father as well and lets not forget he threatened Apperson a year ago in another road rage incident only to show up at Matts place of work the next day.
By now its clear that Zimmerman has a pattern of following people with intent to shoot them
Chief Bracknell also made a comment recently to a LA times reporter:
“Man, it would be fantastic if you have an apartment out there [in Los Angeles] for George Zimmerman,” Bracknell, the police chief, told The Times. “This guy is killing me. We’re just a small-town police department — this really taxes us.”
If George has moved out of Central Florida why is he still seeing a local doctor?
If he did move he moved within driving distance and he’s playing games with his location which at this late date doesn’t make sense unless of course he’s still playing the sympathy card.
Roderick, some doctors will not renew prescriptions for certain medications. Patients need a new prescription every 30 days. But, if they are abusing the drug or selling it, they have more than one doctor.
Can’t someone make him stop?!!!
George Zimmerman has once again gone into hiding and tells friends he is “badly shaken” after being shot at by Matthew Apperson Monday in Lake Mary, Florida.
According to the Daily Mail, the acquitted killer has told friends close to him that “he feels lucky to be alive” and that “God was watching over him” the day he reportedly waived a gun at Apperson in the third of such encounters between the two men — which according to Apperson had previously included Zimmerman stalking him while armed and threatening to “fucking kill” him.
While Zimmerman acknowledges that he could’ve been killed when Apperson fired a shot into the driver’s side window of Zimmerman’s truck, he told friends “It just wasn’t my time to go.”
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/248567/george-zimmerman-fears-for-his-life-plans-to-leave-florida/
What a load. Ughhh – he feels lucky to be alive and it wasn’t his time to go. Puhhleeezeeeee!!!
Good morning Rachael! It’s not his “time to go” because he’s digging his own ditch, and the lazy killer is taking his time.
I don’t believe a lot of what his friends have to say but then again they got that version from Z. They claim he gets nervous and sweats a lot when in public…..yet the fool has no problem promoting himself at gun shows and bragged at times on twitter about going to the movies, shopping, and parties.
I wish he would move to Virginia or anywhere else out of this state. I find myself always looking over my shoulder when I’m in the Lake Mary area, afraid that I’ll run into that crazy person. I survived a trip through there today…..thankfully no one followed me.
I do hope for one thing. I wonder if he experienced even the slightest fear that TM felt just prior to Z taking his life. I hope he did…..maybe then he’ll think twice before following another person.
Apperson arrested. I’m done.
I just found out too, once again Z pulls his same crap and talks his way out of trouble. Remember how the CarMax co worker said he was so smooth he started to doubt his own claims against Z.
I feel this will only empower the fool even more in his own mind.
Yeah so he tells police apperson called him a “fat fuck & said he didn’t press charges BC he wanted to kill him himself” and instead of what any normal, completely innocent person would say, like why, WTF is wrong w you? He laughs & calls him a clown.
Shannon, I found your comment in the spam folder. It contained the “f” word. LOL! Funny — since I changed options requiring a Word Press account to submit comments, it has eliminated spam by 99 percent, so when I saw that, it got my attention.
Wow. I guess WordPress is a little Oppressed! That word has been so mainstreamed it’s hardly a cuss word anymore.
Brought up in a hyper religious family, I thought that was the worst word in the world, I remember being horrified & literally turning red when i was in the lunch line & 1st over heard some kid say it, even though I’d never really defined it in my own mind. It took me until I was 23 to even say it. right after i saw the movie boys in da hood at some friends house to prepare me for my 1st trip to California! LMAO
And then I could.not.stop.saying.it! LMAO I mean it was ridiculous! i have video of me where i’ve lost my mind because i repeated it over & over thinking it was the funniest shit on earth.. i swore i was sooo cool!! OMG I’m so stupid!
Shannon, blame me for that. 🙂 Back in mid 2013 until I got the problem resolved (at least on a temporary basis), this blog received an average of 3 vile comments a day from the cyberextortionists through proxy IP addresses. All of their favorite vocabulary was placed in the blacklist queue so if they hit a proxy IP that wasn’t blocked, the comment would go into spam. I’ve not taken time to go through and delete those words because recently, Miss Filth from Texas has opened a Word Press account for the expressed purpose of trying to get her vile filth before my eyes again.
OH, by the way, it just goes to show what type of inconvenience they cause. Here we are minding our own business, and her creepy obsession with me just won’t let go.
shannoninmiami | 05/16/2015 at 12:06 am
yep. they’ve gone to great lengths to harass you but every time keep falling into the black hole of doom! lmao
Shannon, and you’ve been with me through it all. Words cannot express how much I appreciate you. (((((Hugs)))))
He has opportunity to have a SYG hearing. Actually, I’m looking forward to Zimmerman being a witness, taking the stand, giving his side of the story and being cross-examined.
Yeah, I’m trying to think of something positive too. But it’s hard.
I think that Apperson knew all along there was a good chance that he would be arrested. This is case where the rubber meets the road because both parties are alive, and neither party has authority to withdraw their complaint. Zimmerman is now on the other side as a witness, being deposed and required to testify. He won’t have a choice about it.
Apperson’s motion for a SYG hearing is probably already in the works.
The Apperson arrest report has now been added under “Documents” on the right-side border of the blog.
Click to access apperson-arrest-report.pdf
From the news tonight…..Apperson was arrested solely on Z’s statement. On advice from NeJame, Apperson has not spoken to or given a statement beyond what was already said….before he lawyer end up. NeJame said this was expected and no surprise.
Rumor has it that police report has a redacted line in which it says that Apperson was recently in a mental institution recently. I tried to get it to show up but couldn’t. If he did I wonder if it was voluntary or involuntary and results. Depending on the circumstances, Apperson’s gun ownership and Concealed carry might have been illegal.
I swear i heard that isn’t the concealed carry permit (at least in FL) granted on a case by case basis at the discretion of the county sheriff or local police dept?
and what about someone who’s apparently an out patient like Zimmerman who has to see a psychiatrist to get Adderall ect.. suffering from paranoia & anxiety?
Shannon you heard wrong or the person telling you is misinformed. FL is not a case by case basis determined by the local law enforcement. It is decided by the State itself and as long as you meet the requirements and do not have a disqualifier then you get one. There are a few states though that it is true.
This is what the requirement says about mental health:
You are NOT ELIGIBLE for a Florida concealed weapon license if any of the following conditions applies to you: (1) you have
been adjudicated incapacitated under section 744.331, F.S., or similar laws of any other state; (2) you have been committed
to a mental institution in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 394, FS, or similar laws of any other state; (3) you have
been adjudicated mentally defective or incompetent in any court. Your eligibility for licensure would be restored only
if you had received relief from federal firearms disabilities through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
Explosives (ATF).
744.331, F.S. deals with the courts evaluating a patient and their rights.
Chapter 394 deals with everything else:
Short title.
Legislative intent.
Operation and administration.
Screening of mental health personnel.
Continuity of care management system; measures of performance; reports.
Department responsibilities for a mental health resident who resides in an assisted living facility that holds a limited mental health license.
Introduction or removal of certain articles unlawful; penalty.
Rights of patients.
Sexual misconduct prohibited; reporting required; penalties.
Florida statewide and local advocacy councils; access to patients and records.
Persons to be notified; patient’s representative.
Guardian advocate.
Rights of professionals.
Designation of receiving and treatment facilities.
Integrated adult mental health crisis stabilization and addictions receiving facilities.
Clinical records; confidentiality.
Voluntary admissions.
Involuntary examination.
Involuntary outpatient placement.
Involuntary inpatient placement.
Rulemaking authority.
Procedure for placement of veteran with federal agency.
Plan and report.
Admission and discharge procedures.
Transfer of patients among facilities.
Discharge of involuntary patients.
Attorney’s fee; expert witness fee.
Acceptance, examination, and involuntary placement of Florida residents from out-of-state mental health authorities.
Residential care for psychotic and emotionally disturbed children.
Minors; access to outpatient crisis intervention services and treatment.
Children and adolescents; admission and placement in mental facilities.
Intent.
South Florida State Hospital; privatization.
Definitions; ss. 394.4786, 394.4787, 394.4788, and 394.4789.
Use of certain PMATF funds for the purchase of acute care mental health services.
Establishment of referral process and eligibility determination.
Military veterans and servicemembers court programs.
Z has never been deemed incompetent by a court or admitted into a mental institution. Yes, he sees a “therapist”/doctor to deal with his “issues” and gets medicine to help with it but that alone doesn’t disqualify one.
Knew I could count on you to set me straight! I think I got that idea from something about a report on making it hard for black ppl to get guns. That local sheriffs wld deny black ppl their permits for their arbitrary reasons.
I saw only one redaction and it was for where the cop met Apperson — unless I missed it. Because of HIPPA law, no one has to disclose their private health info and if LE obtained it through means other than the legal procedure, (AND IF IT’S TRUE), they can be sued.
look towards the end on the bottom of the report where the cop opines that apperson has it out for Zimmerman & has been acting strange, there’s some blank spaces. that looks like redactions.
From what I understand the decision also came after the PD interviewed his mother and wife…….maybe one of them let them know about it.
looks like its true so looks like the PD’s error is grounds for a lawsuit & someone should be disciplined. after all remember this is the same PD that discouraged Apperson from filing charges against Zimmerman for threatening him & stalking.
another thing, they had ample evidence of Zimmerman’s aggression against his wife & father in law on video. he’s seem patting his chest where the gun is and motioning them to come here. just because they couldn’t get the video from the ipad, doesn’t mean they couldn’t see the damn idiot on home cams and it corroborated Shellie’s
‘excited utterance’ to 911.
one doesn’t call 911, especially shellie after all the drama she musta known would happen if she did, if she wasn’t in fear.
BTW; another thing that bothers me is the idea that they couldn’t get the video off the ipad when most of the time, at least with every android & iphone I’ve had, any photos & video I’ve taken is uploaded to a cloud almost instantly. & even faster if I’m using wifi. and they deff had wifi since they had the security cams.
lake mary totally failed to take action against Zimmerman when they had a number of opportunities. i don’t believe it would’ve been difficult to have convinced his victims they could make a strong case stick against him, considering his previous behavior, if they’d just press charges. instead everyone just wanted to wash their hands of him & hoped he wouldn’t be stupid enough to do anything again. they were so wrong.
Shannon, Zimmerman has a mob leader method in that it appears he only brutalizes people who are blackmailable. When he threatened Shellie, attacked her dad, and destroyed evidence, Shellie was on probation. She was vulnerable.
When Sam called the cops on Zimmerman, and in spite of there being evidence of destroyed property and his barricading himself in the house, Sam recanted because Zimmerman’s minions went after her mom as a gold-digger. Oh — and let’s not forget the revenge porn that Zimmerman showed Sam’s daughter.
The other girlfriend had something going on between her and a former boyfriend who she said Zimmerman threatened to contact.
Now there’s Matthew, and after calling the cops twice about Zimmerman threatening and stalking him, he didn’t file charges. He might have wanted to avoid what Zimmerman’s minions are doing now, which is placed him under the microscope to dig into not just his life, but his mind.
NeJame is smart. The cops redacted that portion of their report, and whichever Zimmerman minion figured it out and publicly reported it is in a position of being sued. It’s a federal violation.
From the Apperson arrest report:
Sgt. Towler arrived, overheard Apperson say,
“I hope I got him this time”.
This causes me to think that things do not bode well for Apperson.
you could look at it like that or you could look at it in another way. “i hope i got him this time’ sounds to me that he’s scared & finally had the courage to stand up to the bully who’d stalked & threatened him already.
if that idiot threatened you twice & you felt you needed to put him down before he made good on those threats, you’d hope this would’ve put an end to his reign of terror too?
BTW. remember the other person in the car with him when he threatened apperson the 1st time? wouldn’t it be great if Zimmerman had burned his bridge with that person by now & he’s ready to come clean & admit what happened? if apperson could get that guy to testify for him this case is done!
Shannon, thanks for sharing your point of view. It sure is going to be interesting how this all plays out.
Shannon, I’m back again. 🙂
Thinking of gz’s and Apperson’s story versions:
Apperson must have been driving with his gun readily available to have been able to shoot the moment he saw gz waving his gun at him.
gz must have had his window down to have heard all of Apperson’s words shouted at him. (Plus he did say he put his window up.)
Wonder what speed they were going. (or did Apperson fire his gun when they were not moving?)
Wonder how much traffic was on the road.
It would be helpful to have a map of where all of this started and ended.
gz is said to have flagged down a police cruiser. Do you think he called 911 ?
Lake Mary Blvd. is a main drag and it occurred around lunch time and it is a heavily traveled road. There had to be considerable traffic out there and so far it doesn’t appear anyone knew what had transpired. A bystander did recognize Z’s vehicle and started to film what was happening, that is the person who caught the footage of him getting the ambulance.
Speed limit on that road is mainly 45 mph. It would not be unheard of for traffic to slow for a light or come to a stop.
Thanks, Towerflower. Your answers are helpful.
Idk where he carries it, maybe in a holster or like most ppl I know in their pocket &then stick it in the glove box/or compartment in the middle when they get in the car. I don’t think most ppl wld keep it on them while driving.
Yes, I want to see the map too with the routes they claim they each took. I need a visual before I can understand.
I’m like you in that a visual map would help me understand more.
This is what the redacted part says:
(Removed per request)