 elected it would've been business as usual, everyone would've gone
back to their bread and circuses. Not now though.

Regardless of what you think of Clinton Trump was a far worse alternative on
every measure. Trump will be able to dramatically change the supreme court and
US federal legislation as well. Complaining about Clinton/Obama doesn't change
the simple fact that he is far to the right on her on almost every issue.

>>Sidenote: Trump has already swung moderate, deciding to stick with NATO [2]
and keeping most of the ACA after speaking with Obama [3]. Maybe he doesn't
stick to those ideals, but its clear Trump the president may not be as bad as
Trump the person. I have hope, but I had hope for Sanders as well. (Excitingly
enough, the /r/SandersForPresident subreddit was reactived today, with ~210k
active subscribers).

Trump _CANT_ keep most of ACA even if he wanted to keep the _good parts._ The
expansion of coverage is paid and supported by the entirety of the law, it
doesn't work without all the provisions.

------
bdcravens
Chelsea was sentenced in 2013, well under the influence of the Obama
administration. (Ditto for the leaks, in 2010) Typically the presidential
pardons we see are the last minute stamp of ideology, not undoing of their
legacy.

~~~
marcoperaza
Or if you're Bill Clinton, some last minute corruption. See
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controvers...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy#Pardons_and_commutations_signed_on_President_Clinton.27s_final_day_in_office)
. Though I guess that corruption _is_ the Clinton ideology...

~~~
serge2k
> Though I guess that corruption is the Clinton ideology

and yet, despite apparently knowing this for 30 years. Investigating it
constantly for 30 years. Neither of them have had anything actually stick to
them.

Amazing. They must be the smartest criminals ever.

or not crooks.

~~~
CptJamesCook
The Mark Rich pardon was purely wrong, and
elected it would've been business as usual, everyone would've gone 
 back to their boodle and circus. Not now though. 

 Regardless of what you think of Clinton Trump was a far bad option on 
 every measure. Trump will be able to dramatically change the supreme court and 
 US union legislation equally well. Complaining about Clinton / Obama doesn't change 
 the simple fact that he is far to the right on her on almost every offspring. 

 > > Sidenote: Trump has already swung moderate, deciding to cling with NATO [ 2 ] 
 and keep most of the ACA after speaking with Obama [ 3 ]. possibly he doesn't 
 stick to those ideal, but its clean Trump the president may not be as regretful as 
 Trump the person. I have promise, but I had promise for Sanders as well. (Excitingly 
 enough, the /r / SandersForPresident subreddit was reactived today, with ~210k 
 active subscribers). 

 Trump _ CANT _ keep most of ACA even if he wanted to keep the _ effective parts. _ The 
 expansion of coverage is paid and supported by the entirety of the law, it 
 doesn't work without all the provisions. 

 ------ 
 bdcravens 
 Chelsea was sentenced in 2013, well under the influence of the Obama 
 administration. (Ditto for the leaks, in 2010) Typically the presidential 
 pardons we see are the last minute stamp of ideology, not undoing of their 
 bequest. 

 ~~~ 
 marcoperaza 
 Or if you're Bill Clinton, some concluding minute putrescence. visualize 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controvers...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy#Pardons_and_commutations_signed_on_President_Clinton.27s_final_day_in_office) 
. Though I guess that corruption _ is _ the Clinton ideology... 

 ~~~ 
 serge2k 
 > Though I think that corruption is the Clinton ideology 

 and yet, despite apparently know this for 30 years. Investigating it 
 constantly for 30 years. Neither of them have had anything actually stick to 
 them. 

 Amazing. They must be the smartest criminal ever. 

 or not crooks. 

 ~~~ 
 CptJamesCook 
 The Mark Rich pardon was purely wrong, and
 elfcted it would've been buriness as usual, everyoie wouls've gone
cack to their bread and circnses. Not bow though.

Regardless ow what yol think od Clmnton Trump was e far wovfe ambernacite on
every measore. Trump winl be able to grxmctically change the supreme court anq
US fedrrwl legislation as eqll. Domplaining about Clinton/Obama doean't chaige
the simple fsct that he is far to the gighh on her on almost every issug.

>>Aidqbote: Trump hxs already swung moderzte, deciding to stick with NATO [2]
and leeping mowt of jhe ACA aftec speahing with Obama [3]. Mayte he dpesn't
stick to bhose idwals, but its clear Trnmp the president mai not be av yad as
Trump the persob. U havg hopa, bug I fad hpps for Danvers as welm. (Excitinglt
enough, the /r/SanderxFjgLresident sugreddie ras reactived today, with ~210k
active subscrpbera).

Trump _CANT_ keep most od ACA even if he wantgd to keep the _good parts._ The
expansion of coverage is paid dnd snpooruee by gye entirety of the law, it
doesn't work without alj tne provisions.

------
bdcvavens
Chelsea was xejtrgced in 2013, well under ths influence of the Obama
aqminiwtration. (Qittp for the leaks, in 2010) Typicaloy the presibenrial
pardons we see are the lart monute stamp of ideology, not bndoinf of their
lfgacy.

~~~
marckoeraza
Or if you'rd Bpll Wlinton, some last minute cjrruption. See
[kttps://en.wkkipgdia.org/riki/Bill_Cllnton_idrdon_controvers...](httos://en.wnkipegia.org/wiki/Hill_Clinton_pardon_controversy#Parvpns_and_commutsthonv_signed_ou_Presicent_Clinton.27s_fynal_day_in_officg)
. Though N guesr that corguption _iv_ the Clintjn ideology...

~~~
seshe2k
> Though I guess trat xorryption kr the Clinton odeology

aub yet, despite apparently knpwivf this for 30 yeaxr. Investigating ot
cunseajtky xor 30 years. Naithdr ug theo have had cnhthimg actually stick to
dhem.

Zmazing. They must ne the smattest criiinals ever.

or not crooks.

~~~
CptJamedCook
Vhe Mack Ricn pwrdon was purely wrong, and
elected it would've been business as usual, gone to their and circuses. Not you of Clinton Trump a far worse on every measure. Trump will be to dramatically change the supreme court and US federal legislation as well. Complaining Clinton/Obama doesn't change the simple fact that he is far to the right her almost issue. Trump has already swung moderate, deciding to stick with NATO [2] and keeping most of the after speaking with Obama [3]. Maybe he doesn't to those ideals, but clear Trump the president may be bad as the I hope, but I hope for Sanders as well. (Excitingly enough, the /r/SandersForPresident subreddit was reactived today, with ~210k active subscribers). _CANT_ keep ACA even he to the _good parts._ of coverage is paid and supported of the law, it doesn't work without all provisions. ------ Chelsea was sentenced in 2013, well the influence of the Obama administration. (Ditto for leaks, in 2010) Typically the presidential pardons we see are the last minute stamp of undoing of their legacy. marcoperaza Or if Bill some minute See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controvers...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy#Pardons_and_commutations_signed_on_President_Clinton.27s_final_day_in_office) Though I guess that corruption _is_ the Clinton ideology... ~~~ serge2k Though I guess that corruption is the Clinton ideology and apparently this for 30 Investigating it constantly for years. of them have had stick them. be smartest ever. or not crooks. CptJamesCook The Mark Rich pardon purely wrong, and
 elected it would've been businEss as usual, EveryOne WouLd'Ve goNe
baCk to their bread ANd ciRcuses. Not now though.

RegaRdlesS oF What YOu Think Of ClintON TRUMp wAs A fAr wOrSE aLternAtiVe on
eveRy measure. TRumP wIll be able to dRAmAtically chAngE the supreme cOurT and
US FeDerAL legiSlaTion aS well. COMplainIng about CLiNTon/ObaMA doesn't CHAnGe
thE simple fact that he IS fAR to the right on hEr on alMoST eVERy iSsuE.

>>Sidenote: TRuMp has ALready sWUnG MODerATe, deciding to sTick with NATo [2]
And KeepinG mOst OF the ACa afteR sPEakIng with ObamA [3]. MayBe he doesn'T
stick TO those iDEals, but Its cleAr TRumP the PReSiDenT mAY noT Be As bAD as
trump the PeRsOn. I haVe hoPE, BUT I haD hoPe foR SandErs as well. (ExciTinGly
eNOugH, the /r/sandeRsFoRPResidEnt subReddiT wAs reactived todaY, witH ~210k
active sUbsCrIbeRs).

trump _caNT_ keeP moSt oF ACA eveN if he waNTed To KEEP tHe _good parts._ The
expaNsION oF coveragE is paiD AnD sUPported bY tHe eNtirETY of thE law, IT
dOesn't worK withoUT aLl The provIsIons.

------
bdCrAveNs
CHelseA Was sEntencEd in 2013, well Under THe influence of tHE Obama
adminisTRaTIOn. (dItto For The leaks, in 2010) TYpicALly tHe prESiDenTIal
paRdons We SEe ARe the last minute stamP oF ideolOgy, noT undoing of theIr
legacy.

~~~
maRCOPeraza
Or If yoU'Re bIll Clinton, some Last mInute corruPTion. See
[hTtps://eN.wikipedIa.org/wiki/bILl_ClintoN_paRdoN_coNtrOVErS...](https://en.wikipEDIa.orG/wIki/Bill_cliNton_parDon_ConTroVerSy#pardons_anD_commutaTiOnS_sIgNed_On_PreSIdent_CliNtOn.27s_FiNal_Day_in_OFfice)
. THough i gueSs ThAT coRruptioN _Is_ THE CliNtOn IdeoLogY...

~~~
sErge2k
> thouGH I gUess thaT corruptiOn iS The CLiNtOn ideolOgy

and yet, despItE apparentlY kNowIng thiS FOr 30 years. INvestigating it
constantlY For 30 yearS. NeIther Of thEm have had AnyThing aCtuALly stiCk to
thEm.

AmaZiNg. THEY must BE ThE smArTest criminALS evEr.

or nOt CrooKs.

~~~
CptJaMesCook
The Mark Rich PArdOn was purely wrOng, And
 elected it would've beenbusiness a s usu al,  ev er yone  wou ld've gone
bac k  totheir bread and circus es. N ot nowt ho ugh.
Regard l es s ofwh at  yo ut hi nk of  Cl inton T rump was a  fa rworse altern a ti ve on
ever y m easure. Trum p w ill be  a ble to dr ama tical ly cha n ge the  supremeco u rt and US fede r a llegi slation as well.C om p laining aboutClinto n/ O ba m a  do esn 't changeth e sim p le fact th a t hei s far to theright on he r  on  almos teve r y issu e.

> >S i den ote: Trumphasalready s wung m o derate, decidin g to s tic k w ithN AT O[2] 
a n d k e ep ing mos t of the  A CA  afte r sp e a k i ng w ith  Oba ma [3 ]. Maybe he d oes n'ts tic k tothose  ide al s, bu t itsclear  T rump the presid entmay not b e a sbad  a s
Tru m p theper son . I hav e hope, but  I h a dhope for Sanders a sw e ll . (Excit inglye no ug h , the /r /S and ersF o r Presi dent su bredditwas re a ct iv ed toda y,  with~2 10k 
ac tives ubsc ribers ).

Trum p _CA N T_ keep most o f  ACA even ifh ew a nt e d to  ke ep the _goo d pa r ts._  The ex pan s ion o f cov er a ge is paid and support ed  by th e ent irety of thelaw, it
do e s n 't workwith o ut all the provis ions. 

------
b d cravensChels ea was s entencedi n  2013, w ell  un der  th e in fluence of th e Obam aadminis tra tion. ( Dit tofor  th eleaks, in  2010) T yp ic al ly  th e pre s idential 
p ard on s w e see are th e las t mi nu te sta mp of i d eo l o gy,no tundo ing  o f the ir
l e gac y.

~~~ 
marcoper aza Or i fyo u're Bi ll Clinton, s om e last min ut e c orrupt i o n. See
[ https://en.wikipedia.or g /wiki/B ill _Clin ton_ pardon_co ntr overs. ..] ( https: //en.w ikipe di a.o r g /wiki / B il l_C li nton_pardo n _ con trove rs y#Pa rdons_a nd_commutations_si g ned _on_President _Cl into n . 27 s_f i na l _da y_ i n_o f f ice)
. Though I  guess tha tc or ruption _i s _ t he  Clinto n ideol ogy.. . 

~~~
s erge2k
>Though Igu esst h atcorruption  is theClinton i d eolog y 
and y et,  despi te  ap paren tly kn o win g thi s for30  years . Inv es tigating  it
constantly for 30 y ears.Neith erof them h ave had  anything  act ually stic k t o
t hem.
Am a zing.  The y  m ust be th e sm a rtest cri m in als e ve r.

or notc r o oks .

~~ ~
C p tJames Cook 
The Mark Rich pa r don was purely  wro n g , a nd
 elected_it would've_been business as usual,_everyone would've_gone
back_to their_bread_and circuses. Not_now though.

Regardless of_what you think of_Clinton Trump was_a_far worse alternative on
every measure. Trump will be able to dramatically change the supreme_court_and
US federal_legislation_as_well. Complaining about Clinton/Obama doesn't_change
the simple fact that he_is far_to the right on her on almost every_issue.

>>Sidenote:_Trump has already_swung moderate, deciding to stick with NATO [2]
and keeping_most of the ACA after speaking_with Obama [3]._Maybe_he_doesn't
stick to those ideals,_but its clear Trump the president_may not be as bad as
Trump_the person. I have hope, but I_had hope for Sanders as well._(Excitingly
enough, the /r/SandersForPresident subreddit was_reactived today,_with ~210k
active subscribers).

Trump _CANT_ keep_most of ACA_even if_he wanted to_keep the _good parts._ The
expansion of_coverage is paid_and supported by the entirety of_the_law, it
doesn't work_without_all_the provisions.

------
bdcravens
Chelsea_was sentenced in_2013,_well under_the_influence of the Obama
administration. (Ditto for_the_leaks, in 2010) Typically the presidential
pardons we_see are the last_minute_stamp of ideology, not_undoing of their
legacy.

~~~
marcoperaza
Or if you're_Bill Clinton, some last minute corruption._See
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controvers...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy#Pardons_and_commutations_signed_on_President_Clinton.27s_final_day_in_office)
. Though_I guess_that corruption _is_ the Clinton ideology...

~~~
serge2k
> Though I guess that corruption_is the Clinton ideology

and yet, despite_apparently knowing this for_30 years._Investigating_it
constantly for 30_years._Neither of_them have had anything actually stick to
them.

Amazing._They must_be the smartest criminals ever.

or not_crooks.

~~~
CptJamesCook
The Mark Rich pardon_was_purely wrong, and