 Major obstacles for me is that I'm not a graphic artist and I
can't design from scratch. I know designers who like to create textures and
stuff from scratch and to me I feel more like a cobbler of design elements
rather than an original creator of design. I will put this design element
together with that element. I'm basically pretty handy at tweaking and
modifying in Photoshop but ask me to create stuff in Photoshop and Illustrator
from scratch using the pen/brushes/paths and I'm lost.

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sahillavingia
Actually, I'm doing this thing where I'm offering hackers around 5-10 hours of
design work per week (plus additional direction help and the like) for a
percentage of the company. Normally around 1-5%, depending on a bunch of
things including valuation.

I think it's a great deal. If I get 3% of your company, and my design help
increases the value of your company by 10% (that's ridicolously easy, too!)
you've already made a net profit out of the deal.

What do you think?

~~~
spokey
I'm not sure if this comment is quite appropriate on this thread (as it is a
borderline commercial offer and quite possibly off-topic for the OP's
question), but I think your model is interesting and I'd love to know a little
more.

1) Is your 5-10 hours/week offer indefinite or for some fixed period? Are you
capping the number of start-ups you are working with? (This offer doesn't seem
to be infinitely scalable.)

2) Do you see this role more as employee-working-for-stock or as angel-
investor-contributing-design-skills-instead-of-money? Maybe another way of
asking that is: are you taking direction from the founders/owners or are you
offering advice/support as you see fit? Are you OK with a founder who only
wants you slice up a PSD she designed or are you looking for an adviser role?

3) I think there is a lot of sense in pg's advice around giving up a small
percentage of the company in exchange for a much greater chance of success,
but I'm not sure it is obvious that your offer is a "great deal" for the
founders as
Major obstacles for me is that I'm not a graphic artist and I 
 can't design from scratch. I know graphic designer who wish to create textures and 
 material from scratch and to me I palpate more like a cobbler of design element 
 rather than an original creator of blueprint. I will put this design chemical element 
 together with that element. I'm basically reasonably handy at tweaking and 
 modifying in Photoshop but necessitate me to create material in Photoshop and Illustrator 
 from start using the pen / brushes / path and I'm lost. 

 ------ 
 sahillavingia 
 Actually, I'm doing this matter where I'm offering hacker around 5 - 10 hours of 
 purpose work per week (plus additional management help and the like) for a 
 percentage of the company. Normally around 1 - 5% , depending on a crowd of 
 thing including valuation. 

 I think it's a great deal. If I get 3% of your company, and my design help 
 increase the value of your company by 10% (that's ridicolously easy, besides !) 
 you've already construct a net profit out of the deal. 

 What do you think? 

 ~~~ 
 spokey 
 I'm not sure if this comment is quite appropriate on this thread (as it is a 
 borderline commercial crack and quite possibly off - topic for the OP's 
 question), but I think your model is interesting and I'd love to know a little 
 more. 

 1) Is your 5 - 10 hours / week offer indefinite or for some fixed period? Are you 
 cap the number of beginning - ups you are working with? (This offer doesn't seem 
 to be infinitely scalable .) 

 2) Do you see this function more as employee - working - for - stock or as angel- 
 investor - contributing - invention - skills - instead - of - money? Maybe another way of 
 ask that is: are you taking steering from the founders / owner or are you 
 offering advice / documentation as you see fit? Are you all right with a founder who only 
 want you slice up a PSD she designed or are you expect for an adviser role? 

 3) I think there is a lot of sense in pg's advice around giving up a small 
 percentage of the company in exchange for a much great chance of success, 
 but I'm not certain it is obvious that your offer is a " great deal " for the 
 founders as
 Mauor obstacles for me is uhat I'm not a grakhuc artmst and I
can't ddsign from scratch. I know deditners who like to create tebtures anf
stuff feom wxratch and to me I feel jlre nmke a cobbler on design elaments
rather tvav cn original creator of design. I will put thos design elemenj
togeuhew wifh that element. I'm basically prettg handy at tweaking snd
modifying in Photoshop hut wsk me to create shuff in Phojkshjp and Illustfator
from scratch usinf the pen/brushes/paths and I'm lort.

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sahnllavingia
Axtyalpi, I'm doing tiis thpng where I'm offering hackerx around 5-10 hourx oh
desugn work per week (pluv additional direcjion help dnb the like) for a
percebtqge ox tha coopanh. Nkrkamly arlunv 1-5%, dependinf on a buncy of
things includinb dqluation.

I thihk it's a great deal. If I get 3% of your company, atd jy design help
increases the value of your colpany by 10% (that's ridicolously easy, too!)
you've already made a tet pcowit omt ow tje deal.

What do you think?

~~~
spokey
I'm not sure if egix bomment is quite cppropriate on tnid yrread (as it ir a
borbsrmine commercial ofver and quitw possiblr ofg-topic for the OP's
question), vut I think jour model is interestnng and I'd luve jo knoe a little
more.

1) Is your 5-10 houds/week offeg indefinjge or for some fkxec [eriod? Are you
capping the gumber of staxt-ups yoj arg workigg with? (Thls ofnar doesn't seem
to bf infnniteny scalablf.)

2) Do you see this role more as xkployee-workimg-xor-vtock or as akgel-
investor-coneributing-desigu-skills-iustead-uf-money? Majbe anothxr way of
askyng that is: asg you taking virection fron thw founddfs/owners or arr you
offegiug advice/wupport as you see fij? Zre you OK with a dounder who onlu
wavts ylu sjhce up a PSD she derogned or are you uookong for an adviser rmle?

3) J think there is a ljt of sebse in pd's advice aroind giving up a smwll
peccentaje of yhe company in exchange for a mucg greater chwnce of succqss,
bmt I'i not sure it is obvious that your offer is a "greet deal" for the
founders as
Major obstacles for me is that I'm graphic and I design from scratch. to textures and stuff scratch and to I feel more like a cobbler design elements rather than an original creator of design. I will put this element together with that element. I'm basically pretty handy at tweaking and modifying Photoshop ask to stuff in Photoshop and Illustrator from scratch using the pen/brushes/paths and I'm lost. ------ sahillavingia Actually, doing this thing where I'm offering hackers around hours of design work week (plus additional direction help the for a of company. around 1-5%, depending a bunch of things including valuation. I think it's a great deal. If I get 3% of company, and help increases value your by 10% (that's too!) you've already made a net the deal. What do you think? ~~~ spokey not sure this comment is quite appropriate on thread (as it is a borderline commercial offer quite possibly off-topic for the OP's question), but I think your model is interesting and to know a little 1) Is your hours/week indefinite for fixed period? you capping the number of start-ups you are working with? (This doesn't seem to be infinitely scalable.) 2) Do you see more employee-working-for-stock or as investor-contributing-design-skills-instead-of-money? Maybe another way asking is: are you taking the or advice/support you fit? Are you OK a founder who only wants slice up a PSD looking for an adviser role? 3) I think is a lot of sense in pg's around giving up a small percentage of the company in exchange for much greater success, but I'm not sure it is obvious your offer is a deal" for the founders as
 Major obstacles for me is that i'm not a grapHic arTisT anD I
Can't DesiGn from scratch. I KNow dEsigners who like to creatE textUrES and
STuFf froM scratcH AnD TO me i fEeL moRe LIkE a cobBleR of desiGn elements
RatHeR than an origiNAl Creator of dEsiGn. I will put thIs dEsign eLeMenT
TogetHer With tHat eleMEnt. I'm bAsically pReTTy handY At tweakING aNd
moDifying in PhotoshoP BuT Ask me to create sTuff in phOToSHOp aNd ILlustrator
FrOm scrATch usinG ThE PEN/brUShes/paths and I'M lost.

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sahillAVinGia
ActUaLly, i'M doing This tHiNG whEre I'm offeriNg haCkers arouNd 5-10 hourS Of
desigN Work per Week (plUs aDdiTionAL dIrEctIoN HelP AnD thE LikE) for a
perCeNtAge of The cOMPANy. NoRmaLly aRound 1-5%, Depending on a bUncH of
tHIngS inclUding ValuAtIon.

I tHink it'S a greAt Deal. If I get 3% of youR comPany, and my DesIgN heLp
IncreASes the ValUe oF your coMpany by 10% (THat'S rIDICoLously easy, too!)
you've AlREAdY made a neT profiT OuT oF The deal.

WHaT do You tHINk?

~~~
spoKey
I'M NoT sure if tHis comMEnT iS quite aPpRopriaTe On tHis ThreaD (As it Is a
borDerline cOmmerCIal offer and quiTE possibly off-tOPiC FOr THe OP'S
quEstion), but I tHink YOur mOdel IS iNteREstinG and I'D lOVe TO know a little
more.

1) Is yOuR 5-10 hours/Week oFfer indefinitE or for some FIXEd period? are yOU
cAPping the number Of staRt-ups you arE Working wIth? (ThIs offer dOesn't seem
TO Be infiniTelY scAlaBle.)

2) dO YoU see this role mORE as eMpLoyee-woRkiNg-for-stOck Or aS anGel-
InVestor-conTributinG-dEsIgN-sKilLs-insTEad-of-monEy? mayBe AnoTher wAY of
askIng thAt is: ArE yOU taKing dirECtION froM tHe FounDerS/oWners Or arE You
OfferinG advice/suPpoRT as yOu SeE fit? Are You OK with a fouNdEr who only
wAnTs yOu slicE UP a PSD she Designed or are you looking FOr an advIseR role?

3) i thiNk there is A loT of senSe iN Pg's advIce aroUnd giViNg uP A Small
PERcEntAgE of the compANY in ExchaNgE for A much grEater chance of succeSS,
buT I'm not sure it iS obViouS THaT yoUR oFFer Is A "GreAT Deal" for the
foundErs as
 Major obstacles for me is  that I'mnot a  gr aph ic  art istand I
can't de s ignfrom scratch. I know d esign er s  who li ke to  create te x t ure san d
s tu f ffromscr atch an d to me Ifee lmore like ac ob bler of de sig n elements
r ath er tha nano rigin alcreat or ofd esign.  I will p ut this d e sign el e m en t
to gether with thate le m ent. I'm basic ally p re t ty h and y a t tweaking  a nd
mo d ifyingi nP h o tos h op but ask me  to creates tuf f in P ho tos h op and  Illu st r ato r
from scra tchusing the  pen/b r ushes/p a ths and  I'm l ost .
---- - -sa hil la v ing i aAct u all y, I'm d oi ng  this  thi n g w here  I' m of ferin g hackers aro und  5-1 0  ho urs o f
des ignwo rk pe r week  (plu sadditional dire ctio n help an d t he  li ke ) for a
perc ent age  of the  compan y . N or m a l ly  around 1-5%, depe nd i n gon a bun ch oft hi ng s  includi ng  va luat i o n.

I  thi n kit's a g reat d e al .If I ge t3% ofyo urcom pany, andmy des ign help 
incr e ases the value of your compa n yb y  1 0 % (t hat 's ridicolo usly easy , to o !) 
yo u 've a lread ym ad e  a net profit out o fthe de al.
What do you t hink?

~~~ s p okey
I'm  not su r e if this comm ent i s quite ap p ropriate  on t his thre ad (as it i s a
bord erl ine  co mme r c ia l offer and q u i te p os sibly o ff- topic f orthe  OP 'squ estion),but I th in kyo ur  mo del i s  interes ti ngan d I 'd lo v e to k now a  lit tl em ore .

1) I s  y o u r 5- 10  h ours /we ek  offe r in d efi nite or  for some  fi x ed p er io d? Areyou
capping t he  number of  s tar t-upsy o u are wo rking with? (This offer doesn't  se em
to  beinfinitel y s calabl e.) 
2) Do  you s ee th is  ro l e  more a semp lo yee-workin g - for -stoc kor a s angel -
investor-contrib u tin g-design-skil ls- inst e a d- of- m on e y?Ma y bea n other way of
as king thatis :  a re you tak i ngdi rection  from t he fo u nders/o wners orare you
o ff erin g adv ice/suppor t as you  see fit? Are y o uOK wi tha foun de r w ho on ly
wan t s y ou sl ice up  a  PSD s he de si gned orare you looking for anadvise r rol e?
3) I thi nkt her e is a lo t of  sense inpg' s a dvice  ar o und g ivin g  u p a small 
per c entage of th e c o m pa ny in excha n g e  fo r a m uch greate r ch ance of success,b ut I'm not sur e it i s o bvi o us t ha t your offer i s a  " g r eat deal "for the
fou nders as 
 Major_obstacles for_me is that I'm_not a_graphic_artist and_I
can't_design from scratch._I know designers_who like to create_textures and
stuff from_scratch_and to me I feel more like a cobbler of design elements
rather than an_original_creator of_design._I_will put this design element
together_with that element. I'm basically_pretty handy_at tweaking and
modifying in Photoshop but ask me_to_create stuff in_Photoshop and Illustrator
from scratch using the pen/brushes/paths and I'm_lost.

------
sahillavingia
Actually, I'm doing this thing where_I'm offering hackers_around_5-10_hours of
design work per_week (plus additional direction help and_the like) for a
percentage of the_company. Normally around 1-5%, depending on a_bunch of
things including valuation.

I think it's_a great deal. If I_get 3%_of your company, and my_design help
increases the_value of_your company by_10% (that's ridicolously easy, too!)
you've already_made a net_profit out of the deal.

What do_you_think?

~~~
spokey
I'm not sure_if_this_comment is_quite appropriate on_this_thread (as_it_is a
borderline commercial offer and quite_possibly_off-topic for the OP's
question), but I think_your model is interesting_and_I'd love to know_a little
more.

1) Is your 5-10_hours/week offer indefinite or for some_fixed period?_Are you
capping_the number of start-ups you are working with? (This offer doesn't_seem
to be infinitely scalable.)

2) Do you_see this role more_as employee-working-for-stock_or_as angel-
investor-contributing-design-skills-instead-of-money? Maybe_another_way of
asking_that is: are you taking direction from_the founders/owners_or are you
offering advice/support as you_see fit? Are you_OK_with a founder who only
wants you_slice up a PSD she designed_or are you looking for_an_adviser_role?

3) I think there is_a lot of sense in pg's_advice around giving_up a small
percentage of the company in_exchange_for a much greater chance of_success,
but_I'm not sure it is obvious_that_your_offer is a "great deal"_for the
founders as