aring to prevent nesting in the common case, no
more.

 
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https://twobithistory.org/2018/10/14/lisp.html
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okine
Gerald Sussman, co-inventor of Scheme and author of SICP, was my undergraduate
advisor. The last several times I visited his office, he was usually with Jack
Wisdom either programming or deep in thought or discussion about differential
geometry and the differential geometry Scheme library they were writing. One
time when he wasn't so occupied, I brought up SICP, and asked if he was aware
that a lot of people think of reading the book as a sort of magical,
enlightening experience. He said, "Yes, I'm aware." I asked if he had any idea
why. He said, "The main reason is that it tells a good story. It also has a
complete, coherent narrative."

~~~
Rerarom
Am I the only person that read the whole of sicp and didn't feel enlightened
in the least? I felt way more enlightened when I read the whole of John Baez's
this week's finds. Maybe it's a book which you need to read when you're
younger.

~~~
gdubs
Curious: did you complete all the exercises in the book? Not doubting you in
any way, just wondering if that’s a possibility. I know I’ve gone through
books without doing the work, while on others I have done the work — and it’s
usually a pretty different experience.

But, not everyone is gonna connect with everything, regardless.

------
mark_l_watson
I have never minded using a so-called niche language. Since 1982 I have been
very fortunate enough to be paid a good fraction of my time for using Common
Lisp - I consider this to be largely good luck and I am grateful for how
things turned out. I also like Scheme but literally no one has ever paid me
for Scheme development. In the USA, we have a saying that “you dance with the
person you go to the party with.” My dance partner has been Common Lisp.

I still feel like I am still a student. I started to read Let Over Lambda (a
reference to
aring to prevent nesting in the common case, no 
 more. 

 
 How Lisp Became God's Own Programming Language (2018) - Qaphqa 
 https://twobithistory.org/2018/10/14/lisp.html 
 = = = = = = 
 okine 
 Gerald Sussman, co - inventor of Scheme and writer of SICP, was my undergraduate 
 adviser. The last several time I travel to his office, he was usually with Jack 
 Wisdom either scheduling or deep in thought or discussion about differential 
 geometry and the differential geometry Scheme library they were writing. One 
 clock time when he wasn't so occupied, I bring up SICP, and asked if he was aware 
 that a lot of people think of reading the record as a sort of magical, 
 enlightening experience. He read, " Yes, I'm aware. " I asked if he had any idea 
 why. He state, " The main reason is that it tells a good story. It besides has a 
 complete, coherent narrative. " 

 ~~~ 
 Rerarom 
 Am I the only person that read the whole of sicp and didn't feel enlightened 
 in the least? I feel way more enlightened when I read the whole of John Baez's 
 this week's finds. Maybe it's a book which you need to read when you're 
 younger. 

 ~~~ 
 gdubs 
 Curious: did you complete all the exercise in the book? Not doubting you in 
 any room, barely wondering if that ’s a possibility. I know I ’ve run through 
 books without doing the work, while on others I have done the workplace — and it ’s 
 usually a pretty different experience. 

 But, not everyone is gon na connect with everything, regardless. 

 ------ 
 mark_l_watson 
 I have never minded using a then - called niche language. Since 1982 I have been 
 very fortunate enough to be paid a effective fraction of my time for practice Common 
 Lisp - I consider this to be largely good luck and I am grateful for how 
 things turned out. I besides like Scheme but literally no one has ever paid me 
 for Scheme development. In the USA, we have a saying that “ you dance with the 
 person you go to the party with. ” My dance partner has been Common Lisp. 

 I even feel like I am even a student. I started to take Let Over Lambda (a 
 mention to
arijg to prevent nesting in the common casg, bo
more.

 
How Ljsp Becaoe God's Own Programming Langnage (2018) - Qakkqa
https://twobithistorh.org/2018/10/14/lisp.hnml
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okine
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advisos. Ghz last several times I visited his osfice, hr aas usually wijh Jabk
Risdkm either programming or deep in tgought mr discussion about differential
geometrj anf the differential geometry Sxhemq library theh were wriuiug. One
time shen he wasn't so occupied, I brojght bp SICP, and awkef if he was eware
trat a lot of people dhink og reading the nook es a sort of magical,
enligitening experience. Hg said, "Yes, I'j aware." I asked id ye hag anf iddq
whh. Ht seid, "The mwin reason is that it teols a good story. It ajwo has a
complste, corewent narrative."

~~~
Rerarom
Am I the only persmn fhat read the whole of wicp and didn't feel ejlighteneq
in the least? I felt way more enlightened when I sead vhd wkile ow Jlhn Baez's
this week's finds. Maybe it's a book whydh ypu need to reab when you're
younbeg.

~~~
gcobs
Curious: did you compmete all the exerclses in the vook? Not qoubying you in
any way, just woneering if thct’s a possibility. I kuow I’ve gone thrpugh
bpoks without doing the cork, wgile on othfrs I havs done the work — xnd id’s
usually a pretty differegt experixnce.

Bbt, not exerypne is gonna conject with everything, regwrdleds.

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kark_l_watsoj
I have never minded using a so-relled niche lsncuace. Since 1982 I hsve been
very sortunate enouyh to be paid a good frzction mf my time sor using Comkln
Lisp - I coisider thys ti be largelh good luck and I am graneyul for hiw
things turned oub. I auao like Scheme ybt literally no ome fas ener pwhd me
for Schame aevdkopmevt. In the UWX, we have a saying that “fou sance with the
perspn you go jo the pawty with.” My dsnce partner has bten Cokmoi Lisp.

O sjill feel like I am still a stusent. I stwrtcd to read Lee Ovcr Lwmbda (a
refzrence to
aring to prevent nesting in the common more. Lisp Became Own Programming Language okine Sussman, co-inventor of and author of was my undergraduate advisor. The last times I visited his office, he was usually with Jack Wisdom either programming deep in thought or discussion about differential geometry and the differential geometry Scheme they writing. time he wasn't so occupied, I brought up SICP, and asked if he was aware that a of people think of reading the book as sort of magical, enlightening He said, "Yes, I'm aware." asked he had idea He "The main reason that it tells a good story. It also has a complete, coherent narrative." ~~~ Rerarom Am I only person the whole sicp didn't enlightened in the felt way more enlightened when I of John Baez's this week's finds. Maybe it's book which need to read when you're younger. gdubs Curious: did you complete all the exercises the book? Not doubting you in any way, just wondering if that’s a possibility. I gone through books without the work, while others have the — and usually a pretty different experience. But, not everyone is gonna connect everything, regardless. ------ mark_l_watson I have never minded using a language. 1982 I have very fortunate enough to paid good fraction of my using Lisp this be good luck and I grateful for how things turned I also like Scheme ever paid me for Scheme development. In the we have a saying that “you dance the person you go to the party with.” My dance partner has Common Lisp. feel like I am still a student. I to read Let Over (a reference to
aring to prevent nesting in thE common casE, no
moRe.

 
HOw LIsP BecAme GOd's Own ProgrammINg LaNguage (2018) - Qaphqa
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oKine
GerALd sUSsmAn, Co-InvEnTOr Of SchEme And authOr of SICP, waS my UnDergraduate
aDViSor. The last SevEral times I viSitEd his oFfIce, HE was uSuaLly wiTh Jack
wIsdom eIther progRaMMing or DEep in thOUGhT or dIscussion about difFErENtial
geometry aNd the dIfFErENTiaL geOmetry ScheMe LibraRY they weRE wRITIng. oNe
time when he wAsn't so occupIEd, I BroughT uP SIcp, and asKed if He WAs aWare
that a loT of pEople thinK of reaDIng the bOOk as a soRt of maGicAl,
eNligHTeNiNg eXpERieNCe. he sAId, "YEs, I'm awarE." I AsKed if He haD ANY Idea
Why. he saId, "The Main reason is tHat It teLLs a Good sTory. IT alsO hAs a
coMplete, CoherEnT narrative."

~~~
RerarOm
Am i the only pErsOn ThaT rEad thE Whole oF siCp aNd didn't Feel enlIGhtEnED
IN tHe least? I felt way morE eNLIgHtened whEn I reaD ThE wHOle of JohN BAez'S
thiS WEek's fInds. mAyBe it's a boOk whicH YoU nEed to reAd When yoU'rE
yoUngEr.

~~~
gduBS
CurIous: diD you compLete aLL the exercises iN The book? Not douBTiNG YoU In
anY waY, just wonderIng iF That’S a poSSiBilITy. I knOw I’ve GoNE tHRough
books without doInG the woRk, whiLe on others I haVe done the wORK — And it’s
usUallY A pREtty different eXperiEnce.

But, not EVeryone iS gonnA connect With everyTHIng, regarDleSs.

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mArk_L_waTSOn
i have never minDED usiNg A so-callEd nIche lanGuaGe. SIncE 1982 I hAvE been
very FortunatE eNoUgH tO be Paid a GOod fractIoN of My TimE for uSIng ComMon
LiSp - I cOnSiDEr tHis to be LArGELy goOd LuCk anD I aM gRatefUl foR How
Things tUrned out. I AlsO Like scHeMe but liTerally no one hAs Ever paid me
FoR ScHeme deVELopment. IN the USA, we have a saying thaT “You dancE wiTh the
PersOn you go to The Party wIth.” mY dance PartneR has bEeN CoMMOn LisP.

i StIll FeEl like I am sTILl a StudeNt. i staRted to rEad Let Over Lambda (a
rEFerEnce to
aring to prevent nesting i n the comm on ca se,  no 
m ore. 

 How Lisp Becam e  God 's Own Programming Lan guage  ( 2 018) -Qaphq a
https : // t w obi th is tor y. o rg /2018 /10 /14/lis p.html
=== === 
o kine
GeraldS us sman, co-i nve ntor of Sche meand au th oro f SIC P,was m y unde r gradua te
adviso r. The la s t sever a l  t imes  I visited his of f ic e , he was usual ly wit hJ ac k Wis dom  either pr og rammi n g or de e pi n tho u ght or discus sion aboutd iff erenti al 
ge o metryand t he dif ferential g eome try Schem e libr a ry they were wr iting.  On e
t imew he nhewa s n't so  oc c upi ed, I br ou gh t upSICP , a n d as ked  ifhe wa s aware
thata l ot o f  pe oplethink  ofre ading  the b ook a sa sort of magic al,enlighten ing  e xpe ri ence. He sai d,"Ye s, I'maware." I a sk e d if  he had any idea
w hy . He  said, " The ma i nre a son is t ha t i t te l l s a g oods to ry. It a lso ha s  a 
c omplete ,cohere nt  na rra tive. " 

~~ ~
Rera rom
Am I  theo nly person tha t  read the who l eo f  s i cp a nddidn't feel  enl i ghte nedi nthe least ? I f el t  w a y more enlightenedwh en I r ead t he whole of J ohn Baez's t h is week' s fi n ds .  Maybe it's abookwhich youn eed to r ead w hen you' re
younge r . 

~~~
gd ubs 
Cu rio us: d id  you complete a ll t he  exerci ses  in the  bo ok?  No t d ou bting you  in
anywa y,  j us t w onder i ng if th at ’sapos sibil i ty. IknowI’ve  g on e  th rough
b o ok s with ou tdoin g t he  work , wh i leon othe rs I have  do n e th ewo rk — an d it’s
usuall ya pretty d if fer ent ex p e rience.
But, not everyone is g o nna con nec t wit h ev erything,  re gardle ss. 
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mark _l_wa ts onI haven e ve r m in ded usinga so- calle dnich e langu age. Since 1982 Ih ave  been
very fo rtu nate e no ugh to bepa i d a g ood fraction of  my time f or us ing Common Lis p- I con sider t his t o  be lar gely good  luck and  I  amg r ate ful for ho w
things  turned o u t. Ia ls o lik e S chemebu t l itera lly no one  hasever p ai d me
f or Sc he me devel opment. In the USA, wehave a  sayi ngthat “you  da n cewith thepers on you gotothe  part y w i th.”My d a nc e p a rtner  has been Comm o nLis p . 
I still fee l l ike  I am  st i ll a s tude nt. I started tor ead Let Over L ambd a (aref e renc eto
aring to_prevent nesting_in the common case,_no
more.

 
How_Lisp_Became God's_Own_Programming Language (2018)_- Qaphqa
https://twobithistory.org/2018/10/14/lisp.html
======
okine
Gerald Sussman,_co-inventor of Scheme and_author of SICP,_was_my undergraduate
advisor. The last several times I visited his office, he was usually with_Jack
Wisdom_either programming_or_deep_in thought or discussion about_differential
geometry and the differential geometry_Scheme library_they were writing. One
time when he wasn't so_occupied,_I brought up_SICP, and asked if he was aware
that a lot_of people think of reading the_book as a_sort_of_magical,
enlightening experience. He said,_"Yes, I'm aware." I asked if_he had any idea
why. He said,_"The main reason is that it tells_a good story. It also has_a
complete, coherent narrative."

~~~
Rerarom
Am I the_only person_that read the whole of_sicp and didn't_feel enlightened
in_the least? I_felt way more enlightened when I_read the whole_of John Baez's
this week's finds. Maybe_it's_a book which_you_need_to read_when you're
younger.

~~~
gdubs
Curious: did_you_complete all_the_exercises in the book? Not doubting_you_in
any way, just wondering if that’s a_possibility. I know I’ve_gone_through
books without doing the_work, while on others I_have done the work — and_it’s
usually a_pretty different_experience.

But, not everyone is gonna connect with everything, regardless.

------
mark_l_watson
I have never_minded using a so-called niche language._Since 1982 I have_been
very fortunate_enough_to be paid_a_good fraction_of my time for using Common
Lisp -_I consider_this to be largely good luck_and I am grateful_for_how
things turned out. I also like_Scheme but literally no one has_ever paid me
for Scheme development._In_the_USA, we have a saying_that “you dance with the
person you_go to the_party with.” My dance partner has been_Common_Lisp.

I still feel like I am_still_a student. I started to read_Let_Over_Lambda (a
reference to