 run well? It doesn't peg a core on Safari, but
scrolling still feels laggy and unpleasant. I initially assumed you'd
implemented your own inertial scrolling, as with old Google mobile sites.

~~~
bhauer
It runs well on all my PCs, which admittedly are all Windows. It's just an
SVG+SMIL animation. My opinion is that in 2013, it should run entirely on the
GPU. But I acknowledge that's not the case as much as I think it should be.

On my box, it uses ~2.1% CPU and ~16% GPU in Aurora.

~~~
rsynnott
Ah, yep; it actually works quite acceptably in Firefox. Very unpleasant in
Chrome and Safari, though.

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qwerta
Because benchmarks are usually just useless. It is like what has better
acceleration on free fall? Race car or truck?

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AsymetricCom
Since we're throwing fruit onto the stand..

I'd love to see Perl Mason on here (the benchmarks)

Make the DB something CPAN like tie::Storable and load it in RAM. Lets see how
that stands up XD

 

Blackberry captures 10.6% of US cell phone market - martythemaniak
http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080811/WIRELESS/799815845/-1/rss01

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martythemaniak
I thought this was notable for several reasons.

-This figure is for the entire cell phone market, not just the smartphone market.

-There has been a lot of hype around the iPhone around the blogosphere (HN being no exception), yet the real-world figures are more telling. Despite what many may think, the iPhone isn't and won't be a BB killer (and vice versa).

\- The Blackberry is probably getting ignored by the HN/startup in favour of
iPhone apps. If you're doing something with mobile development, you probably
shouldn't ignore a platform with a bigger market share and a far more capable
API.

~~~
tstegart
A bigger market share and more capable API doesn't matter if you don't have
the capital to make a business out of it. Sure, you can build a Blackberry
app, but how would you sell
run well? It doesn't peg a core on Safari, but 
 scrolling still feel laggy and unpleasant. I initially assume you'd 
 implemented your own inertial scrolling, as with previous Google mobile site. 

 ~~~ 
 bhauer 
 It runs well on all my PCs, which true are all Windows. It's just an 
 SVG+SMIL animation. My opinion is that in 2013, it should carry entirely on the 
 GPU. But I acknowledge that's not the character as much as I intend it should be. 

 On my corner, it uses ~2.1% CPU and ~16% GPU in Aurora. 

 ~~~ 
 rsynnott 
 Ah, yep; it actually work quite acceptably in Firefox. Very unpleasant in 
 Chrome and Safari, though. 

 ------ 
 qwerta 
 Because benchmarks are usually merely useless. It is like what has better 
 acceleration on free fall? raceway car or truck? 

 ------ 
 AsymetricCom 
 Since we're throwing yield onto the stand.. 

 I'd sleep together to see Perl Mason on here (the benchmarks) 

 Make the DB something CPAN like tie::Storable and load it in RAM. let see how 
 that stands up XD 

 

 Blackberry captures 10.6% of US cell phone grocery store - martythemaniak 
 http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080811/WIRELESS/799815845/-1/rss01 

 = = = = = = 
 martythemaniak 
 I thought this was notable for several reasons. 

 -This figure is for the entire cell phone market, not just the smartphone grocery store. 

 -There has been a lot of hype around the iPhone around the blogosphere (HN being no exception), yet the veridical - world figures are more telling. Despite what many may think, the iPhone isn't and won't be a BB cause of death (and vice versa). 

 \- The Blackberry is probably getting ignored by the HN / startup in favor of 
 iPhone apps. If you're doing something with mobile development, you probably 
 shouldn't neglect a platform with a bigger market share and a far more adequate to 
 API. 

 ~~~ 
 tstegart 
 A bigger grocery store share and more capable API doesn't matter if you don't have 
 the capital to do a business out of it. Sure, you can build a Blackberry 
 app, but how would you deal
 ruj well? It doesn't peg a cure on Safari, bot
wcrollmng stiml feels laggy and unpleasant. I initmallt assymed you'd
implemented yuur own ijertial wcroooing, as wivg old Google jlbilz wites.

~~~
bhauer
It tuns well on all my PCs, whhcf cdmittedly are all Windows. It's just wn
SVG+SMOL animation. My jpinpog is nhct in 2013, it should run entirely oh the
GPL. But I acknowledbe that's not the case as mkch ws I think it shoupd be.

On my vox, yr uses ~2.1% CPU xnd ~16% GPU in Aurora.

~~~
rsynhott
Ah, yep; it actually works qukte aeceptably ib Dirfxox. Very un'leasagt in
Chrome and Safasi, thoubh.

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qwerta
Becausc benrhmaeks are usually just nseless. It is like wrat has batcer
acceleration on frwe fall? Raca caf or trhcl?

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AaymetrlcCkm
Since we'de throwing fruit onto the stamd..

Y'e love to see Perl Iafon on here (the benchmarks)

Make the DB smmefhing CPAN like tie::Storqble and load it in RWM. Lets sqe how
that stands up XD

 

Blackberry captures 10.6% of UV celm phinc mafjeh - martythemaniak
http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080811/WIREJSSX/799815845/-1/rxs01

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martythemanick
I thought this wws gotable for sgveral xsaaons.

-This figure is for thg entiee cell prone market, not just the smartpyone market.

-Tkerw has been a lot oy hype arounb the oPhonr around the blogospherz (HN bsing no excfption), yef the real-world fkguges dre more telling. Despite wrat many nay chink, thd iPnone ifn't and woj't be a BB killer (and vife vetsa).

\- Tha Blackbergy is probably getting ignored ub the HN/startop hn xavour oy
iPhonc apps. If you're doing somethiug with iobild developmvnt, you pcobably
shoulqn't ignore a [patform with a biggew maeket share xvd a far more vapable
APP.

~~~
tftegqrt
A bigger market shxde and more capcylt QPI doesn't matyer if ylu djt't have
the cdpitxl gp makd a businesw out of it. Sure, you can tuils a Blackberry
app, nub how wouod you sqll
run well? It doesn't peg a core but still feels and unpleasant. I own scrolling, as with Google mobile sites. bhauer It runs well on all PCs, which admittedly are all Windows. It's just an SVG+SMIL animation. My opinion that in 2013, it should run entirely on the GPU. But I acknowledge not case much I think it should be. On my box, it uses ~2.1% CPU and ~16% GPU in ~~~ rsynnott Ah, yep; it actually works quite in Firefox. Very unpleasant Chrome and Safari, though. ------ Because are usually useless. is what has better on free fall? Race car or truck? ------ AsymetricCom Since we're throwing fruit onto the stand.. I'd to see on here benchmarks) the something CPAN like load it in RAM. Lets see up XD Blackberry captures 10.6% of US cell market - http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080811/WIRELESS/799815845/-1/rss01 ====== martythemaniak I thought this notable for several reasons. -This figure is for entire cell phone market, not just the smartphone market. -There has been a lot of the iPhone around the (HN being no yet real-world are telling. Despite many may think, the iPhone isn't and won't be a BB (and vice versa). \- The Blackberry is probably getting ignored HN/startup favour of iPhone If you're doing something mobile you probably shouldn't ignore with bigger a more API. ~~~ tstegart A market share and more capable doesn't matter if you make a business out of it. Sure, you build a Blackberry app, but how would sell
 run well? It doesn't peg a core on safari, but
sCrollIng StiLl FeelS lagGy and unpleasanT. i iniTially assumed you'd
impleMenteD yOUr owN InErtiaL scrollINg, AS WitH oLd gooGlE MoBile sIteS.

~~~
bhauer
it runs well On aLl My PCs, which adMItTedly are alL WiNdows. It's just An
SvG+SMIL AnImaTIon. My OpiNion iS that iN 2013, It shouLd run entiReLY on the
gpU. But I aCKNoWledGe that's not the case AS mUCh as I think it shOuld be.

on MY bOX, It uSes ~2.1% cPU and ~16% GPU iN AUrora.

~~~
RSynnott
aH, yEP; IT acTUally works quiTe acceptablY In FIrefox. veRy uNPleasaNt in
CHrOMe aNd Safari, thoUgh.

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qWerta
BecaUse benCHmarks aRE usuallY just uSelEss. it is LIkE wHat HaS BetTEr
AccELerAtion on fReE fAll? RaCe caR OR TRuck?

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asyMetrIcCom
since we're throWinG fruIT onTo the Stand..

i'd loVe To see perl MaSon on HeRe (the benchmarks)

make The DB someThiNg cPAn lIke tiE::storabLe aNd lOad it in rAM. Lets SEe hOw
THAT sTands up XD

 

BlackberrY cAPTuRes 10.6% of US cEll phoNE mArKEt - martytHeManIak
hTTP://www.rCrneWS.cOm/articlE/20080811/WIRELesS/799815845/-1/RsS01

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martytHeManiak
i tHouGht This wAS notAble foR several ReasoNS.

-This figure is fOR the entire celL PhONE mARket, Not Just the smarTphoNE marKet.

-THErE haS Been a Lot of HyPE aROund the iPhone around ThE blogoSpherE (HN being no excEption), yet tHE REal-world FiguREs ARe more telling. DEspitE what many mAY think, thE iPhoNe isn't anD won't be a Bb KIller (and VicE veRsa).

\- the bLAcKberry is probaBLY getTiNg ignorEd bY the HN/sTarTup In fAvoUr Of
iPhone aPps. If you'Re DoInG sOmeThing WIth mobilE dEveLoPmeNt, you PRobablY
shouLdn't IgNoRE a pLatform WItH A BiggEr MaRket ShaRe And a fAr moRE caPable
APi.

~~~
tstegart
a biGGer mArKeT share aNd more capable aPi doesn't matTeR if You don'T HAve
the caPital to make a business out OF it. Sure, You Can buIld a blackberrY
apP, but hoW woULd you sEll
 run well? It doesn't pega core onSafar i,but 
s crol ling  still feels l a ggyand unpleasant. I init ially  a s sume d  y ou'dimpleme n te d you row n i ne r ti al sc rol ling, a s with old  Go og le mobile si t es .

~~~
bha uer 
It runs wel l o n allmy  PC s , whi chadmit tedlya re all  Windows.  I t 's jus t  an
SVG + S MI L an imation. My opini o ni s that in 2013 , it s ho u ld r unent irely on t he 
GPU. But I a c kn o w l edg e  that's not t he case asm uch  as Ith ink it sho uld b e. 
On  my box, it  use s ~2.1% C PU and ~16% GP U  in Aur ora.
~~~ 
rs ynno t tAh , y ep ;  it ac tua l lyworks qu it eaccep tabl y i n  Fir efo x. V ery u npleasant inChr omea ndSafar i, th ough .
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qwe rta
B ec ause benchmarks  are  usuallyjus tuse le ss. I t  is li kewha t has b etter
a c cel er a t i on  on free fall? Rac ec a ror truck ?

--- - -- 
A s ymetricC om 
Si ncew e 're t hrow i ng  fruit o nto th e  s ta nd..

I 'd  loveto  se e P erl M a sonon her e (the b enchm a rks)

Make the DB somethingC PA N li k e ti e:: Storable an d lo a d it  inR AM . L e ts se e how 
t h at stands up XD

 

Bl ac kberry  capt ures 10.6% of  US cell p h o n e market  - m a rt y themaniak
http ://ww w.rcrnews. c om/artic le/20 080811/W IRELESS/7 9 9 815845/- 1/r ss0 1
=== = = =martythemania k I th ou ght thi s w as nota ble  fo r s eve ra l reasons .

-This  f ig ur eisfor t h e entire  c ell  p hon e mar k et, no t jus t th esm a rtp hone ma r ke t . 

-T he re  has  be en  a lo t of hyp e aroun d the iPh one arou nd  t he blog osphere (HN b ei ng no exce pt ion ), yet t he real- world figures are moret elling.  De spite  wha t many ma y t hink,the iPhone  isn't  andwo n't b e a B B ki lle r(and vicev e rsa ).

\ -TheBlackbe rry is probably ge t tin g ignored bythe  HN/ s t ar tup in fav ou r  of i Phone apps. Ifyou're doi ng so mething wi t h m ob ile dev elopmen t, yo u  probab ly
should n't ignor ea pl a t for m with a b igger ma rket shar e  anda  f ar mo recapabl eAPI .

~~ ~
tste g art 
A bi gger m ar ket sh are a nd  more ca pable API doesn't matte r if y ou do n't  have
the  ca p ita l to make  a b usiness ou t o f i t. Su re, you c an b u il d a Black berr y 
app, but ho w w o u ld  you sell
 run_well? It_doesn't peg a core_on Safari,_but
scrolling_still feels_laggy_and unpleasant. I_initially assumed you'd
implemented_your own inertial scrolling,_as with old_Google_mobile sites.

~~~
bhauer
It runs well on all my PCs, which admittedly are all Windows. It's_just_an
SVG+SMIL animation._My_opinion_is that in 2013, it_should run entirely on the
GPU._But I_acknowledge that's not the case as much as_I_think it should_be.

On my box, it uses ~2.1% CPU and ~16%_GPU in Aurora.

~~~
rsynnott
Ah, yep; it actually_works quite acceptably_in_Firefox._Very unpleasant in
Chrome and_Safari, though.

------
qwerta
Because benchmarks are usually just_useless. It is like what has_better
acceleration on free fall? Race car or_truck?

------
AsymetricCom
Since we're throwing fruit onto the_stand..

I'd love to see Perl_Mason on_here (the benchmarks)

Make the DB_something CPAN like_tie::Storable and_load it in_RAM. Lets see how
that stands up_XD

 

Blackberry captures_10.6% of US cell phone market_-_martythemaniak
http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080811/WIRELESS/799815845/-1/rss01

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martythemaniak
I thought this_was_notable_for several_reasons.

-This figure is_for_the entire_cell_phone market, not just the smartphone_market.

-There_has been a lot of hype around_the iPhone around the_blogosphere_(HN being no exception),_yet the real-world figures are_more telling. Despite what many may_think, the_iPhone isn't_and won't be a BB killer (and vice versa).

\- The Blackberry_is probably getting ignored by the_HN/startup in favour of
iPhone_apps. If_you're_doing something with_mobile_development, you_probably
shouldn't ignore a platform with a bigger_market share_and a far more capable
API.

~~~
tstegart
A bigger_market share and more_capable_API doesn't matter if you don't_have
the capital to make a business_out of it. Sure, you_can_build_a Blackberry
app, but how would_you sell