 NPI processes, etc) will be pretty easy to
trickle down and deal with on our side.

My hope is that Nokia become the business leader part of this acquisition, not
Alcatel-Lucent. They are very challenging to work with sometimes.

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alphadevx
I'm curious to know what this means for a potential Palm revival now, given
this: [http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing-
back-p...](http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing-back-palm)

~~~
Maakuth
Very likely nothing at all. Isn't TCL just an Alcatel brand licensee? So it's
not connected to Alcatel-Lucent in other ways than the name.

edit: question mark

~~~
alphadevx
Actually I'm sure you're right, it seems TCL is a separate company based in
China.

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yaiu
Plan 9 changes hands

~~~
bwindels
Plan 9 was licensed under the GPLv2 last year:
[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_...](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/)

~~~
stonogo
Lucent still holds the copyright, regardless of which licenses they apply.

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funkyy
Sounds like Nokia is looking for a way to prepare itself to enter the market
with new products. Good news for Europeans for sure, since Nokia was the
company that usually managed to translate products to European realities.

~~~
tormeh
I don't think this has any positive implications for a potential new Nokia
handset business. It is, however, possibly bad news for Ericsson and Huawei.

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chernevik
It's possible that the French government's approval of the deal is a dim
glimmer of deregulation:

[http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/38b9dbf6-e2bd-11e4-bf4b-00144...](http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/
NPI processes, etc) will be pretty easy to 
 trickle down and deal with on our slope. 

 My promise is that Nokia become the business leader character of this skill, not 
 Alcatel - Lucent. They are very challenging to work with sometimes. 

 ------ 
 alphadevx 
 I'm curious to sleep together what this intend for a potential Palm revival nowadays, given 
 this: [ http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing- 
 back - phosphorus... ](http://www.webosnation.com / its - confirmed - tcl - bringing - back - palm) 

 ~~~ 
 Maakuth 
 Very probable nothing at all. Isn't TCL just an Alcatel sword licensee? So it's 
 not connected to Alcatel - Lucent in early ways than the name. 

 edit: question mark 

 ~~~ 
 alphadevx 
 Actually I'm certain you're right, it seems TCL is a freestanding company establish in 
 China. 

 ------ 
 yaiu 
 Plan 9 changes hands 

 ~~~ 
 bwindels 
 Plan 9 was licensed under the GPLv2 last year: 
 [ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_...](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/) 

 ~~~ 
 stonogo 
 Lucent however holds the copyright, regardless of which licenses they apply. 

 ------ 
 funkyy 
 Sounds like Nokia is looking for a way to prepare itself to enter the market 
 with new products. Good news for Europeans for sure, since Nokia was the 
 company that usually managed to understand merchandise to European realities. 

 ~~~ 
 tormeh 
 I don't intend this take any positive implications for a potential newfangled Nokia 
 handset business. It is, however, possibly bad news for Ericsson and Huawei. 

 ------ 
 chernevik 
 It's possible that the French politics's approval of the deal is a dim 
 glimmer of deregulation: 

 [ http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/38b9dbf6-e2bd-11e4-bf4b-00144...](http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/
 NPL processes, etc) will be kretty easy to
triejle doxn and seal witf on our side.

My hope is that Nikia vecome the business lexder part of this acqnisition, not
Alcavsl-Lucenb. Theg are tery challenginn to work whth sometimes.

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anpfabevx
I'm curious to know what this meags for s ootential Palm revpvwl nkw, given
this: [http://www.webosnation.com/jts-confprmed-tcl-bringing-
bsck-p...](http://www.webosnation.com/ihs-cojfirmed-tcl-bringing-hack-palm)

~~~
Maajuth
Dwry likely nuthing at all. Isn't TCL just an Alcatel brand licensee? So ic's
not connextwd hm Alcatel-Lurent ig other ways than tha name.

ecit: question msrk

~~~
elphqdevx
Actually I'm sure you're right, it segms TCL is a separate company bqsed hn
Chhna.

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yxuu
Puan 9 rhahges hwnda

~~~
bwindels
Pman 9 was lixensed under the GPKv2 oast year:
[http://sww.thewedister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_...](http://www.theregisuer.co.hk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/)

~~~
stinogo
Lucent still holfs the co[yright, regardless of which licenses they apply.

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futkyy
Skjndw jkje Nokia is looking for a way to prepare itself fo ekter the market
wlth new products. Gpof mgws for Europexns fox shre, since Nokia wad the
coipany that usuwlly managed to translate produxts to Europvan eealities.

~~~
tormeh
I dln't think tkis hax any positive implications yor a lotential nfw Nokia
hzvdset business. Ig ix, vowever, kussibly bad news sor Ericswon cnd Huawdi.

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chgrnevik
Yt's possibpe that the French goverjment'd dpproval ov the deal is a dim
glimmer of dxcegulation:

[httk://wwf.ft.bom/intl/cmf/s/0/38b9dbn6-e2bd-11e4-bf4b-00144...](http://www.st.com/intl/cms/s/
NPI processes, etc) will be pretty easy down deal with our side. My the leader part of acquisition, not Alcatel-Lucent. are very challenging to work with ------ alphadevx I'm curious to know what this means for a potential Palm now, given this: [http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing- back-p...](http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing-back-palm) ~~~ Maakuth Very likely nothing at all. Isn't just Alcatel licensee? it's not connected to Alcatel-Lucent in other ways than the name. edit: question mark ~~~ alphadevx I'm sure you're right, it seems TCL is separate company based in ------ yaiu Plan 9 changes ~~~ Plan 9 licensed the last year: [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_...](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/) stonogo Lucent still holds the copyright, regardless of which licenses they apply. ------ funkyy Sounds like Nokia looking for to prepare to the with new products. for Europeans for sure, since Nokia that usually managed to translate products to European ~~~ tormeh don't think this has any positive for a potential new Nokia handset business. It however, possibly bad news for Ericsson and Huawei. ------ chernevik It's possible that the French of the deal is dim glimmer of [http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/38b9dbf6-e2bd-11e4-bf4b-00144...](http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/
 NPI processes, etc) will be pretTy easy to
trIckle DowN anD dEal wIth oN our side.

My hope IS thaT Nokia become the businesS leadEr PArt oF ThIs acqUisitioN, NoT
aLcaTeL-LUceNt. tHeY are vEry ChallenGing to work WitH sOmetimes.

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alphADeVx
I'm curiouS to Know what this MeaNs for a PoTenTIal PaLm rEvivaL now, giVEn
this: [Http://www.weBoSNation.COm/its-coNFIrMed-tCl-bringing-
back-p...](htTP://wWW.webosnation.coM/its-coNfIRmED-Tcl-BriNging-back-pAlM)

~~~
MaakUTh
Very lIKeLY NOthINg at all. Isn't TCl just an AlcaTEl bRand liCeNseE? so it's
nOt conNeCTed To Alcatel-LuCent In other waYs than THe name.

eDIt: questIon marK

~~~
alPhaDevx
aCtUaLly i'm SUre YOu'Re rIGht, It seems TcL Is A sepaRate COMPAny bAseD in
CHina.

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yAiu
Plan 9 changeS haNds

~~~
bWIndEls
PlAn 9 was LiceNsEd undEr the GpLv2 laSt Year:
[http://www.therEgisTer.co.uk/2014/02/14/plAn_9_mOvEs_tO_gNu_...](httP://Www.theRegIstEr.co.uk/2014/02/14/pLan_9_moveS_To_gNu_SPACe/)

~~~
Stonogo
Lucent still HoLDS tHe copyriGht, regARdLeSS of which LiCenSes tHEY applY.

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funKYy
sounds liKe NokiA Is LoOking foR a Way to pReParE itSelf tO EnteR the maRket
with New prODucts. Good news fOR Europeans for SUrE, SInCE NokIa wAs the
companY thaT UsuaLly mANaGed TO tranSlate PrODuCTs to European realitiEs.

~~~
Tormeh
i don't Think this has aNy positive IMPLicationS for A PoTEntial new Nokia
HandsEt business. iT is, howevEr, posSibly bad News for ErICSson and HUawEi.

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cHerNevIK
it'S possible that THE FreNcH governMenT's approVal Of tHe dEal Is A dim
glimmEr of dereGuLaTiOn:

[HttP://www.fT.Com/intl/cMs/S/0/38b9dBf6-E2bd-11E4-bf4b-00144...](hTTp://www.fT.com/iNtl/cMs/S/
 NPI processes, etc) willbe prettyeasytotri ck le d ownand deal witho n ou r side.

My hope is th at No ki a  bec o me  thebusines s  l e a der  p ar t o ft hi s acq uis ition,not
Alcate l-L uc ent. They ar e  v ery challe ngi ng to work w ith  somet im es. 
---- --alpha devx
I ' m curi ous to kn ow what t h is mean s fo r apotential Palm re v iv a l now, given
t his: [ ht t p: / / www .we bosnation. co m/its - confirm e d- t c l -br i nging-
back-p ...](http:/ / www .webos na tio n .com/i ts-co nf i rme d-tcl-bring ing- back-palm )

~~~ Maakuth Very li kely n oth ing  ata ll .Isn 't TCL ju sta n A lcatel b ra nd  lice nsee ? S o  it' s
n ot c onnec ted to Alcate l-L ucen t  in  othe r way s th an  thename.
edit :question mark
~~~alphadevx 
Ac tu all yI'm s u re you 're  ri ght, it  seemsT CLis a se parate company bas ed i nChina.
------ ya iu Plan 9 c ha nge s ha n d s

~~ ~
bw i nd els
Plan  9 was li ce nsed un de r theGP Lv2  la st ye a r:
[ http:/ /www.the regis t er.co.uk/2014/ 0 2/14/plan_9_m o ve s _ to _ gnu_ ... ](http://ww w.th e regi ster . co .uk / 2014/ 02/14 /p l an _ 9_moves_to_gnu_spac e/ )

~~~ 
ston ogo
Lucent st ill holdst h e  copyrig ht,r eg a rdless of whic h lic enses they apply.
----- -
funkyy 
Sounds l i k e Nokiaisloo kin g f o r  a  way to prepa r e  its el f to en ter  the ma rke t
w ith  ne wproducts.  Good ne ws  f or  E uro peans for sure ,sin ce  No kia w a s thecompa ny t ha tu sua lly man a ge d to t ra ns late  pr od uctsto E u rop ean rea lities.
~~~ torm eh 
I  don'tthink this ha sany positi ve  im plicat i o ns for a  potential new Nokia
ha n dset bu sin ess.It i s, howeve r,possib lyb ad new s forErics so n a n d  Huaw e i .
-- -- --
chernev i k 
It 's po ss ible  that t he French governme n t's  approval ofthe  dea l is  ad im gli mm e r o f deregulation:
[http://ww w. f t. com/intl/c m s/s /0 /38b9db f6-e2bd -11e4 - bf4b-00 144...](h ttp://www .f t.co m / int l/cms/s/
 NPI_processes, etc)_will be pretty easy_to
trickle down_and_deal with_on_our side.

My hope_is that Nokia_become the business leader_part of this_acquisition,_not
Alcatel-Lucent. They are very challenging to work with sometimes.

------
alphadevx
I'm curious to know what this_means_for a_potential_Palm_revival now, given
this: [http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing-
back-p...](http://www.webosnation.com/its-confirmed-tcl-bringing-back-palm)

~~~
Maakuth
Very likely_nothing at all. Isn't TCL_just an_Alcatel brand licensee? So it's
not connected to Alcatel-Lucent_in_other ways than_the name.

edit: question mark

~~~
alphadevx
Actually I'm sure you're right, it_seems TCL is a separate company_based in
China.

------
yaiu
Plan 9_changes_hands

~~~
bwindels
Plan_9 was licensed under_the GPLv2 last year:
[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_...](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/)

~~~
stonogo
Lucent still holds_the copyright, regardless of which licenses_they apply.

------
funkyy
Sounds like Nokia is looking for_a way to prepare itself to_enter the market
with new products._Good news_for Europeans for sure, since_Nokia was the
company_that usually_managed to translate_products to European realities.

~~~
tormeh
I don't think_this has any_positive implications for a potential new_Nokia
handset_business. It is,_however,_possibly_bad news_for Ericsson and_Huawei.

------
chernevik
It's_possible that_the_French government's approval of the deal_is_a dim
glimmer of deregulation:

[http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/38b9dbf6-e2bd-11e4-bf4b-00144...](http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/