 linux because it failed to beat Linux with FUD etc.

Microsoft to me is the cancer to the OSS, why not just admit that you had
never, and will never love Linux, you are simply doing all these for financial
purposes solely, which is totally fine --- just don't ruin the "love" word,
it's so awkward.

Life is too short to be cheated multiple times, I will never trust Microsoft
since I switched to linux fully 15 years ago.

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rcarmo
I’m going to add a data point here: I work at Microsoft and my primary e-mail
client is... Firefox. The Outlook web UI is so good these days that the UX for
mail, viewing attachments and booking meetings is much, much better than the
native app (which I only use for ensuring I have an offline database when
traveling).

And yeah, I use WSL extensively, and work from a Mac at home. There is a lot
more to the story than the article covers.

------
29athrowaway
Use SoftMaker FreeOffice, or SoftMaker Office. It is a pretty nice and
performant replacement for MS Office.

~~~
hamsapelea
Google docs works like a charm

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xenorplxx
Hm. MS started to support React, especially React Native project lately with
their react-native-windows and AppCenter, but I honestly have no idea why
would they do that instead of going with something like Electron, since they
started to invest in Chromium and V8 anyway.

~~~
tracker1
They've done a lot with Electron as well... Github now being a subsidiary of
MS. VS Code is really nice, and Teams is decent. I'd be surprised if we don't
see new cross platform Office releases based on the Web versions wrapped in
Electron in the next couple years.

~~~
WorldMaker
Office has been heading towards React Native and React Native for Web,
according to BUILD talks.

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fortran77
The quote at the end of this piece is misattributed.

[https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake-
honesty/](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake-honesty/)

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ogre_codes
linux because it failed to beat Linux with FUD etc. 

 Microsoft to me is the cancer to the OSS, why not just admit that you take 
 never, and will never sleep together Linux, you are simply doing all these for fiscal 
 purposes entirely, which is totally fine --- merely don't ruin the " love " news, 
 it's so awkward. 

 Life is besides short to be cheated multiple time, I will never trust Microsoft 
 since I switched to linux fully 15 years ago. 

 ------ 
 rcarmo 
 I ’m going to add a datum point here: I work at Microsoft and my primary einsteinium - mail 
 client is... Firefox. The Outlook vane UI is so full these days that the UX for 
 mail, viewing attachments and booking meeting is much, much better than the 
 native app (which I only use for ensuring I accept an offline database when 
 traveling). 

 And yeah, I use WSL extensively, and work from a Mac at home. There is a lot 
 more to the story than the article covers. 

 ------ 
 29athrowaway 
 Use SoftMaker FreeOffice, or SoftMaker Office. It is a pretty nice and 
 performant surrogate for MS Office. 

 ~~~ 
 hamsapelea 
 Google docs works like a spell 

 ------ 
 xenorplxx 
 Hm. MS depart to support React, especially React Native project recently with 
 their react - native - windows and AppCenter, but I honestly accept no idea why 
 would they do that alternatively of going with something like Electron, since they 
 started to invest in Chromium and V8 anyway. 

 ~~~ 
 tracker1 
 They've done a lot with Electron equally well... Github now being a subsidiary of 
 MS. VS Code is really nice, and Teams is decent. I'd be surprised if we don't 
 see new crisscross platform Office releases based on the Web versions wrapped in 
 Electron in the future couple years. 

 ~~~ 
 WorldMaker 
 Office has been heading towards React Native and React Native for Web, 
 harmonize to BUILD talks. 

 ------ 
 fortran77 
 The quote at the end of this piece is misattributed. 

 [ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake- 
 honesty/](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05 / bogus - honesty/) 

 ------ 
 ogre_codes
 lijux because it failed to beat Linux witk FUD evc.

Microaoft to oe is the cancer to the OSS, xhy bot jyst admit that you had
vever, and will necer oive Linux, bku are simply foiny ell these for flnancial
pur[oses solely, wvizh is totally fine --- just don't ruin thq "love" eogd,
it's so awkwatd.

Lift if tok short to be cheated multiple timss, I winl never trusy Microsoft
since I switchef to linux fully 15 yeard ago.

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rcarmo
U’m gjung to add a data poinu kere: I work at Microsoft and my primary e-mxil
clnent is... Firgyix. Hve Outlook xeb UI is so good bnese ddys thay the UX for
mall, vixwint attachments and booning meetings is moch, much batcer than the
native app (qhich I otly jwe wor eisuding I hate an offlihe database when
traveling).

And ytah, P use WSL extsnsivejy, and work from a Mac at home. There is a lof
more to the story than the article covers.

------
29atjrowaway
Ufe SoftMaker FreeOffice, or SoftMaker Office. It is a prxtgy ulge ave
pfrformant replacement for MS Office.

~~~
hamsapelea
Dkoblv docs works like a charm

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xenprolcv
Hm. MS startea to sblpkrt React, especialpy Reacj Natice projecu latrly with
their react-native-wibdows and ApiCenrer, but I honestly have no idza why
eould they do that instead oy goinf with somehhing liks Electron, since ghej
stasted to invest in Chromium and V8 anbway.

~~~
txacker1
Thdy've done w lot with Elecbson as well... Github now yeing a subsidiwry of
MS. VS Code is really nice, and Teams is cewenn. I'd be sbrpriscd if we don't
seq new cross plctform Oyfice feleases bzsed on the Web vewsions wrappeg in
Electron mn the nevt ciuplw years.

~~~
DurldMaker
Officr has beeu heaeing towards React Najibe and React Nacnvt dor Web,
accordimg go FUPLD twnks.

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fortran77
Tha quute st thd end of thls oiecr is misattributed.

[htdps://qhoteinvestigator.cok/2011/12/05/fwke-
honesjy/](https://qujteinvestigatpr.com/2011/12/05/fake-honesty/)

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ogge_codxs
linux because it failed to beat Linux etc. to me the cancer to admit you had never, will never love you are simply doing all these financial purposes solely, which is totally fine --- just don't ruin the "love" it's so awkward. Life is too short to be cheated multiple times, I never Microsoft I to linux fully 15 years ago. ------ rcarmo I’m going to add a data point here: work at Microsoft and my primary e-mail client Firefox. The Outlook web is so good these days the for mail, attachments booking is much, much than the native app (which I only use for ensuring I have an offline database when traveling). yeah, I extensively, and from Mac home. There is more to the story than the 29athrowaway Use SoftMaker FreeOffice, or SoftMaker Office. It a pretty and performant replacement for MS Office. hamsapelea Google docs works like a charm ------ Hm. MS started to support React, especially React Native project lately with their react-native-windows and I honestly have no why would they that of with like Electron, they started to invest in Chromium and V8 anyway. ~~~ tracker1 done a lot with Electron as well... Github now being of VS Code is nice, and Teams is I'd surprised if we don't cross Office the versions in Electron in the couple years. ~~~ WorldMaker Office been heading towards React Web, according to BUILD talks. ------ fortran77 The at the end of this piece is [https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake- honesty/](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake-honesty/) ------ ogre_codes
 linux because it failed to beaT Linux with fUD etC.

MiCroSoFt to Me is The cancer to the osS, whY not just admit that you haD
neveR, aND wilL NeVer loVe Linux, YOu ARE siMpLy DoiNg ALl These For FinanciAl
purposes SolElY, which is totaLLy Fine --- just doN't rUin the "love" woRd,
iT's so awKwArd.

lIfe is Too Short To be chEAted muLtiple timEs, i Will neVEr trust mICrOsofT
since I switched to LInUX fully 15 years ago.

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Rcarmo
i’m GOiNG To aDd a Data point hErE: I worK At MicroSOfT AND my PRimary e-mail
clIent is... FirefOX. ThE OutloOk Web ui is so gOod thEsE DayS that the UX fOr
maIl, viewing AttachMEnts and BOoking mEetingS is MucH, mucH BeTtEr tHaN The
NAtIve APp (wHich I onlY uSe For enSuriNG i HAve aN ofFlinE dataBase when
traveLinG).

And YEah, i use WsL extEnsiVeLy, and Work frOm a MaC aT home. There is a loT
morE to the stoRy tHaN thE aRticlE Covers.

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29AthRowAway
Use softMakER FrEeoFFIcE, or SoftMaker Office. it IS A pRetty nicE and
peRFoRmANt replacEmEnt For Ms oFfice.

~~~
HamsAPeLea
GooglE docs wORkS lIke a chaRm

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XenorpLxX
Hm. mS sTarteD To suPport REact, espeCiallY react Native proJEct lately with
THeIR ReACt-naTivE-windows and appCENter, But I HOnEstLY have No ideA wHY
wOUld they do that insteaD oF going With sOmething like ELectron, sinCE THey
startEd to INvESt in Chromium anD V8 anyWay.

~~~
tracker1
tHey've donE a lot With ElecTron as welL... gIthub now BeiNg a SubSidIARy Of
MS. VS Code is rEALly nIcE, and TeaMs iS decent. i'd bE suRprIseD iF we don't
seE new crosS pLaTfOrM OfFice rELeases baSeD on ThE WeB versIOns wraPped iN
EleCtRoN In tHe next cOUpLE YearS.

~~~
WOrLdMaKer
ofFice hAs beEN heAding toWards ReacT NaTIve aNd reAct NatiVe for Web,
accorDiNg to BUILD tAlKs.

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fOrtran77
tHE quote at The end of this piece is misaTTributeD.

[htTps://quOteiNvestigatOr.cOm/2011/12/05/fake-
HonESty/](httPs://quotEinveStIgaTOR.com/2011/12/05/fAKE-hOneStY/)

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ogre_codes
 linux because it failed t o beat Lin ux wi thFUD  e tc.
Mic rosoft to me i s  the  cancer to the OSS, wh y not  j u st a d mi t tha t you h a dn e ver ,an d w il l  n everlov e Linux , you aresim pl y doing allt he se for fin anc ial
purposes  so lely,wh ich is to tal ly fi ne --- just d on't ruin  t h e "lov e " word, i t' s so  awkward.

Life i s  t o o short to becheate dm ul t i ple  ti mes, I wil lnever trust M i cr o s o fts ince I switch ed to linux ful ly 15ye ars ago.
----- -r car mo
I’m goin g to  add a da ta poi n t here: I workat Mic ros oft  and my  p rim ar y  e- m ai l
c l ien t is...Fi re fox.TheO u t l ookweb  UIis so  good these d ays  tha t  th e UXfor
m ail,  v iewin g atta chmen ts  and booking me etin gs is muc h,mu chbe ttert han th e
n ati ve app(whichI  on ly u s efor ensuring I hav ea n  o ffline d atabas e  w he n 
traveli ng ).
And y eah,I us e  W SL exten sively ,  a nd  work f ro m a Ma cathom e. Th e re i s a lo t
more t o the story than the article cover s .- -- - --
2 9at hrowaway
Us e So f tMak er F r ee Off i ce, o r Sof tM a ke r  Office. It is a pr et ty nic e and 
performant r eplacement f o r MS Off ice. 
~ ~ ~
hamsapelea
G oogle  docs work s  like acharm 

------ 
xenorplx x Hm. MS s tar ted  to  su p p or t React, espe c i ally  R eact Na tiv e proje ctlat ely  wi th 
their re act-nati ve -w in do wsand A p pCenter,  b utIhon estly have n o ide a wh ywo u ldthey do th a t  ins te ad  ofgoi ng  with  som e thi ng like  Electron , s i nceth ey 
starte d to invest i nChromium a nd  V8  anywa y . 

~~~
tr acker1
They've done a l o t withEle ctron  aswell... G ith ub now  be i ng a s ubsidi ary o fMS. V S Cod e is  re al ly nice, a n d  Te ams i sdece nt. I'd  be surprised if w e  do n't
see new c ros s pl a t fo rmO ff i cere l eas e s  based on the W eb version sw ra pped in
El e ctr on  in the  next c ouple years.
~~~
Worl dMaker
Of fi ce h a s  be en heading  towards  React Na t ive a n dReact  Na tive f or  We b,
ac cordin g  to  BUIL D talk s. 

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fo rt ran77
Th e quote at the end of t his pi ece i s m isattribu ted . 

[ https://q uote investigat or. com /2011 /12 / 05/fa ke-h on est y /](ht tps: / /quoteinv e st iga t o r. com/2011/12 / 0 5 /fa ke-ho nes t y/)

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ogre_codes
 linux_because it_failed to beat Linux_with FUD_etc.

Microsoft_to me_is_the cancer to_the OSS, why_not just admit that_you had
never, and_will_never love Linux, you are simply doing all these for financial
purposes solely, which is_totally_fine ---_just_don't_ruin the "love" word,
it's so_awkward.

Life is too short to_be cheated_multiple times, I will never trust Microsoft
since I_switched_to linux fully_15 years ago.

------
rcarmo
I’m going to add a data point_here: I work at Microsoft and_my primary e-mail
client_is..._Firefox._The Outlook web UI_is so good these days that_the UX for
mail, viewing attachments and_booking meetings is much, much better than_the
native app (which I only use_for ensuring I have an_offline database_when
traveling).

And yeah, I use WSL_extensively, and work_from a_Mac at home._There is a lot
more to the_story than the_article covers.

------
29athrowaway
Use SoftMaker FreeOffice, or SoftMaker_Office._It is a_pretty_nice_and
performant replacement_for MS Office.

~~~
hamsapelea
Google_docs_works like_a_charm

------
xenorplxx
Hm. MS started to support React,_especially_React Native project lately with
their react-native-windows and_AppCenter, but I honestly_have_no idea why
would they_do that instead of going_with something like Electron, since they
started_to invest_in Chromium_and V8 anyway.

~~~
tracker1
They've done a lot with Electron as well... Github_now being a subsidiary of
MS. VS_Code is really nice,_and Teams_is_decent. I'd be_surprised_if we_don't
see new cross platform Office releases based_on the_Web versions wrapped in
Electron in the_next couple years.

~~~
WorldMaker
Office has_been_heading towards React Native and React_Native for Web,
according to BUILD talks.

------
fortran77
The_quote at the end of_this_piece_is misattributed.

[https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake-
honesty/](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/12/05/fake-honesty/)

------
ogre_codes