 those people with
technically fulfilling jobs have little to worry about. The rest of us
probably should polish those resumes because the days of six figures to do
simple dev work are coming to an end.

------
lordCarbonFiber
With the caveat that I don't have any person experience with the situation in
Canada, I get immediately suspicious of any article that talks to a "talent
gap". At least in the states, it's not hard to find a developer. What is hard
however, is finding a developer that wants to code your uninspired CRUD app at
below market rates and I that's the issue these bootcamps tend to address.

~~~
chaghan
in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king How much time can a man
invest in learning a really complex stuff so he can work on compilers,
creating programming languages or implementing extraordinary search
algorithms. And who will pay for that?

That is the downside of capitalism.

Just take a look at what happened to Oracle when the most brilliant engineers
left after they acquired Sun Microsystems. They literally could not find
anyone for ages to replace these people just because there is not enough
talent out there.

And that's Oracle. Who else is there that can afford to pay these people?
Google? Maybe. Netflix? aye IBM? likely And maybe few dozens of other
corporations.

But these people do not want to work for corporations instead they need to be
treated as special unicorns.

 
GOTO considered helpful - jmount
http://erehweb.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/goto-considered-helpful/
======
CodeMage
I can identify with this article. My own experience makes me agree with it
completely.

At the age of 7, I learned BASIC on Spectrum 48. At the age of 9, I wrote a
program for my mom to use in her biology class. It's still the most awful
spaghetti programming I can remember seeing in my life. It had some really
toxic uses of GOTO, but I remember it also had a few uses of GOTO which were
actually attempts at more structured programming (GOTO X simulating a
switch/case).

Fast forward to the age of 12 and Oxford Pascal on Commodore 64. Programming
without
those people with 
 technically fulfilling jobs have short to concern about. The rest of us 
 probably should polish those sketch because the day of six figures to do 
 dim-witted dev oeuvre are coming to an goal. 

 ------ 
 lordCarbonFiber 
 With the caveat that I don't have any person have with the situation in 
 Canada, I get immediately leery of any article that talks to a " talent 
 gap ". At least in the states, it's not hard to recover a developer. What is hard 
 however, is finding a developer that wants to code your sterile CRUD app at 
 below market rates and I that's the emergence these bootcamps tend to address. 

 ~~~ 
 chaghan 
 in the domain of the blind, the one - eyed man is king How much time can a man 
 invest in learn a really complex stuff so he can work on compilers, 
 creating scheduling language or implementing extraordinary search 
 algorithms. And who will pay for that? 

 That is the downside of capitalism. 

 Just take a look at what happened to Oracle when the most brilliant engineer 
 left after they acquired Sun Microsystems. They literally could not receive 
 anyone for age to replace these people just because there constitute not enough 
 talent out there. 

 And that's Oracle. Who else is there that can afford to yield these people? 
 Google? Maybe. Netflix? aye IBM? likely And maybe few dozens of other 
 pot. 

 But these people do not want to work for corporations alternatively they need to be 
 treat as special unicorns. 

 
 GOTO considered helpful - jmount 
 http://erehweb.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/goto-considered-helpful/ 
 = = = = = = 
 CodeMage 
 I can identify with this article. My own experience makes me match with it 
 completely. 

 At the age of 7, I learned BASIC on Spectrum 48. At the old age of 9, I wrote a 
 program for my mom to use in her biota class. It's still the most awful 
 spaghetti programming I can commend seeing in my animation. It had some truly 
 toxic uses of GOTO, but I commemorate it also had a few uses of GOTO which were 
 actually attempts at more structured scheduling (GOTO X simulating a 
 switch / case). 

 Fast ahead to the age of 12 and Oxford Pascal on Commodore 64. Programming 
 without
 thlse people with
technicaluy fulfilling jobs havx littls to worfy about. The rest of us
probauly whoule polish those resumes because nhe days if smx figures to do
simple dcr wori are roming to an enc.

------
lordCarbotFiber
With the cxvzat that I don't have any person expewience eihh the situatijn im
Sanasa, I get immediately suspicious of any aruicle that talks tp a "talent
gap". At least in hhe dtates, it's not harf to find a devqooper. What ir hard
howenzr, is findihg a developer that wants to coae yobr uninspirgb CRKG app at
beliw magket rates and I that'v the ixsue these boobcampv twnd to address.

~~~
chaghan
mn the land of the bjind, the mnz-eyed man is king How mych thme wan x mav
inbext in lewrnmng a reallg complex sruff so he can work og compilers,
crezting [rjgramming languages or implementing extgaorsinary search
algorithms. And who will pay for that?

That is the downside of capitalism.

Just take a look at what fapkekcd tu Ogacle when the most brilliant engineers
left asfet nhey acquired Sun Microsysteks. Tngy literally cuuld not rind
anyone for aged to reklace rhese peokle jist because there is not eniugh
talent olt tyere.

And that's Oracpe. Who else is jhere yhat can afford to pay chese leople?
Googlf? Maybe. Nsgflix? aye IBM? liyelj Ang maybe few dozens of othew
corporatmons.

Bbt these peokle do got want tl work for corporations lnstecd thay need to be
treated as special unicorns.

 
JPTO considergd veliful - jmobnt
htti://erehweb.wordprefs.com/2010/06/24/goto-consibered-hel'ful/
======
CoaeMage
I cah identmfy with thif article. My man experiencx makes mq ageee qith it
zumpletely.

At thr age of 7, I learned BASIC on Spectrum 48. Aj fhe age of 9, I wxuue a
program for ky oom tl nse ig her biology clars. Ky's stkll the mosb adful
xpaghetti programminc I dan remember seeinb ln my lifg. It had fome really
tocic uses of GOTO, bkt I cemembxr it slsj had a few uses of GOTO which were
actuwlln attempts at morc sttuctured prpgramming (GOTO X simulating a
switch/case).

Hast forward to the agg of 12 and Oxford Pasccl on Commodoce 64. Prjgramming
fithout
those people with technically fulfilling jobs have worry The rest us probably should days six figures to simple dev work coming to an end. ------ lordCarbonFiber the caveat that I don't have any person experience with the situation in I get immediately suspicious of any article that talks to a "talent gap". least the it's hard to find a developer. What is hard however, is finding a developer that wants to your uninspired CRUD app at below market rates I that's the issue bootcamps tend to address. ~~~ in land of blind, one-eyed is king How time can a man invest in learning a really complex stuff so he can work on compilers, programming languages extraordinary search And will for that? That downside of capitalism. Just take a happened to Oracle when the most brilliant engineers after they Sun Microsystems. They literally could not anyone for ages to replace these people just there is not enough talent out there. And that's Oracle. Who else is there that to pay these people? Maybe. Netflix? aye likely maybe dozens other corporations. these people do not want to work for corporations instead they to be treated as special unicorns. GOTO considered helpful - ====== I can identify this article. My own makes agree with it completely. age 7, on 48. the age of 9, wrote a program for my to use in her most awful spaghetti programming I can remember seeing my life. It had some really toxic of GOTO, but I remember it also had a few uses of which were at more structured programming (GOTO X simulating a Fast forward to the of 12 and Oxford Pascal on Commodore 64. Programming
 those people with
technicallY fulfillinG jobs HavE liTtLe to WorrY about. The rest oF Us
prObably should polish thosE resuMeS BecaUSe The daYs of six FIgUREs tO dO
sImpLe DEv Work aRe cOming to An end.

------
lordCArbOnfiber
With the CAvEat that I doN't hAve any person ExpEriencE wIth THe sitUatIon in
canada, i Get immEdiately sUsPIcious OF any artICLe That Talks to a "talent
gap". aT lEAst in the states, It's not HaRD tO FInd A deVeloper. WhaT iS hard
HOwever, iS FiNDINg a DEveloper that wAnts to code yOUr uNinspiReD CRud app at
Below MaRKet Rates and I thAt's tHe issue thEse booTCamps teND to addrEss.

~~~
chaGhaN
in The lANd Of The BlINd, tHE oNe-eYEd mAn is king hoW mUch tiMe caN A MAN
invEst In leArninG a really complEx sTuff SO he Can woRk on cOmpiLeRs,
creAting pRograMmIng languages or iMpleMenting exTraOrDinArY searCH
algorIthMs. ANd who wiLl pay foR ThaT?

THAT Is The downside of capitAlISM.

JUst take a Look at WHaT hAPpened to orAclE wheN THe mosT briLLiAnt enginEers
leFT aFtEr they aCqUired SUn micRosYstemS. they LiteraLly could Not fiND
anyone for ages TO replace these PEoPLE jUSt beCauSe there is noT enoUGh
taLent OUt TheRE.

And tHat's ORaCLe. wHo else is there that caN aFford tO pay tHese people?
GooGle? Maybe. NeTFLIx? aye IBM? LikeLY AND maybe few dozenS of otHer
corporaTIons.

But tHese pEople do nOt want to wORK for corpOraTioNs iNstEAD tHey need to be
trEATed aS sPecial uNicOrns.

 
GOTo coNsiDerEd hElPful - jmounT
http://ereHwEb.WoRdPreSs.com/2010/06/24/GOto-consiDeRed-HeLpfUl/
======
CodEmage
I cAn ideNtifY wItH ThiS articlE. my OWN expErIeNce mAkeS mE agreE witH It
cOmpleteLy.

At the agE of 7, i LearNeD BaSIC on SPectrum 48. At the aGe Of 9, I wrote a
pRoGraM for my MOM to use in Her biology class. It's still THe most aWfuL
spagHettI programmIng i can reMemBEr seeiNg in my Life. IT hAd sOME realLY
ToXic UsEs of GOTO, buT i RemEmber It Also Had a few Uses of GOTO which werE
ActUally attempts At mOre sTRUcTurED pROgrAmMIng (gotO X simulating a
sWitch/case).

FAsT FoRward to the AGe oF 12 aNd OxforD Pascal On ComMOdore 64. PrOgramming
Without
 those people with
technic ally fulfi lling  jo bsha ve l ittl e to worry abo u t. T he rest of us
probably  shou ld poli s hthose  resume s  b e c aus eth e d ay s  o f six  fi gures t o do
simpl e d ev  work are co m in g to an en d.
------
lord Car bonFib er 
Wi t h the  ca veatthat I don'thave anype r son ex p erience w it h th e situation in
Ca n ad a , I get immedi atelysu s pi c i ous  of  any artic le  that talks t o  a " t ale n t
gap". At le ast in thes tat es, it 's  no t  hardto fi nd a d eveloper. W hatis hard
h owever ,  is fin d ing a d evelop ertha t wa n ts  t o c od e  yo u runi n spi red CRUD  a pp  at
b elow m a r ketrat es a nd Ithat's the is sue  the s e b ootca mps t endto  addr ess.
~~~
c ha ghan
in the lan d of  the blin d,th e o ne -eyed man is  ki ngHow muc h timec anam a n 
i nvest in learningar e al ly compl ex stu f fso he can w or k o n co m p ilers ,
cr e at ing prog rammin g  l an guagesor  imple me nti ngextra o rdin ary se arch
alg orith m s. And who wil l  pay for that ? 
T h at is t hedownside of  cap i tali sm.Ju stt ake a  look  a t  w h at happened to Orac le  whenthe m ost brilliant  engineers l e ft after  the y  a c quired Sun Mic rosys tems. They literall y cou ld not f ind
anyon e for ages  to  re pla cet h es e people just b ecau se  thereisnot eno ugh 
ta len t o ut  there.
And that 's  O ra cl e.Who e l se is th er e t ha t c an af f ord to  paythes epe o ple ?
Googl e ?M a ybe.  N et flix ? a ye  IBM?  lik e lyAnd may be few do zen s  ofot he r
corpo rations.

But  t hese peopl edonot wa n t  to work  for corporations inste a d theynee d tobe
t reated as  sp ecialuni c orns.
 
GOT O con si der e d  help f u l- j mo unt
http:/ / e reh web.w or dpre ss.com/ 2010/06/24/goto-co n sid ered-helpful/ 
== ==== C od eMa g eI  ca ni den t i fy with this ar ticle. Myow n  e xperiencem ake sme agre e withit
co m pletely .

At the  age of 7 ,I le a r ned  BASIC onSpectrum  48. At t h e age of  9, I  wr ote apr ogr am fo r my m o m t o use  in he rbiolog y cla ss . It's s till the most awful
spa ghetti  prog ram ming I ca n r e mem ber seein g in  my life.Ithad  some  re a lly
t oxic us eso f GOT O, b u t I remem b er  it a ls o had a few u s esof GO TOw hich w ereactually attempts at more struct ured p rog ram m ing(G OTO X simulati ngas w itch/cas e) .

Fast for ward toth e  ageof 12and Ox ford Pa s c al on Com modo re64. Progr amm in g 
withou t
 those_people with
technically_fulfilling jobs have little_to worry_about._The rest_of_us
probably should polish_those resumes because_the days of six_figures to do
simple_dev_work are coming to an end.

------
lordCarbonFiber
With the caveat that I don't have any person_experience_with the_situation_in
Canada,_I get immediately suspicious of_any article that talks to_a "talent
gap"._At least in the states, it's not hard_to_find a developer._What is hard
however, is finding a developer that wants_to code your uninspired CRUD app_at
below market rates_and_I_that's the issue these_bootcamps tend to address.

~~~
chaghan
in the land_of the blind, the one-eyed man_is king How much time can a_man
invest in learning a really complex_stuff so he can work_on compilers,
creating_programming languages or implementing extraordinary_search
algorithms. And who_will pay_for that?

That is_the downside of capitalism.

Just take a_look at what_happened to Oracle when the most_brilliant_engineers
left after they_acquired_Sun_Microsystems. They_literally could not_find
anyone_for ages_to_replace these people just because there_is_not enough
talent out there.

And that's Oracle. Who_else is there that_can_afford to pay these_people?
Google? Maybe. Netflix? aye IBM?_likely And maybe few dozens of_other
corporations.

But these_people do_not want to work for corporations instead they need to be
treated_as special unicorns.

 
GOTO considered helpful_- jmount
http://erehweb.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/goto-considered-helpful/
======
CodeMage
I can identify_with this_article._My own experience_makes_me agree_with it
completely.

At the age of 7, I_learned BASIC_on Spectrum 48. At the age_of 9, I wrote_a
program_for my mom to use in_her biology class. It's still the_most awful
spaghetti programming I can_remember_seeing_in my life. It had_some really
toxic uses of GOTO, but_I remember it_also had a few uses of GOTO_which_were
actually attempts at more structured programming_(GOTO_X simulating a
switch/case).

Fast forward to the_age_of_12 and Oxford Pascal on_Commodore 64. Programming
without