, this has led to weak growth
and deflation.

~~~
monk_e_boy
Austerity in the UK is extreme and it doesn't seem to have helped much. It
seems to be a convenient way for the Tories to auction off more of the public
services because 'they are too expensive'...

~~~
hardlianotion
Auction off? I am unaware of this. Perhaps that is not what you meant. Can you
clarify or show where this happened?

~~~
netsharc
Somehow they privatize things saying the market can offer a better deal than a
government funded institute, when this happens the government-employed people
are fired and then only some of them get hired by the private company. Savings
at a cost of worse service, because fuck the taxpayers.

[https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri-
kankhwende/uk...](https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri-
kankhwende/uk-outsourcing-alan-white-serco-G4S)

[https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-
bigge...](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-biggest-
company-never-heard-of)

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aportnoy
Had humans had 6 fingers on each hand, this news would not exist.

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blibble
the UK and France swap positions at regular intervals, which the article even
states:

> This year will be the first time since 2013 that France has topped the U.K.
> in the ranking, according to the IMF.

~~~
gerdesj
To be honest I thought the UK was still third in the EU economy top N (behind
FR and DE). UKoGBnNI and FR have vied for the same position for quite a while
now.

Another interpretation is that we have equally successful economies based on
one, rather archaic but generally agreed on, measure.

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partycoder
The UK was the first country to go through the Industrial revolution and for a
while they had a huge advantage over other countries.

But other countries eventually caught up to their industrial
, this has led to weak growth 
 and deflation. 

 ~~~ 
 monk_e_boy 
 Austerity in the UK is extreme and it doesn't seem to have help much. It 
 seem to be a convenient way for the Tories to auction off more of the public 
 services because' they are besides expensive'... 

 ~~~ 
 hardlianotion 
 Auction off? I am unaware of this. Perhaps that is not what you meant. Can you 
 clarify or express where this happen? 

 ~~~ 
 netsharc 
 Somehow they privatize things say the market can offer a good deal than a 
 politics funded institute, when this happens the government - employed people 
 are fired and then only some of them get hire by the private company. Savings 
 at a price of worse service, because fuck the taxpayers. 

 [ https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri- 
 kankhwende / uk... ](https://www.opendemocracy.net / shinealight / kiri- 
 kankhwende / united kingdom - outsourcing - alan - white - serco - G4S) 

 [ https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco- 
 bigge... ](https://www.theguardian.com / business/2013 / jul/29 / serco - biggest- 
 party - never - heard - of) 

 ------ 
 aportnoy 
 Had humans give birth 6 fingers on each hand, this news would not exist. 

 ------ 
 blibble 
 the UK and France swap positions at even intervals, which the article even 
 states: 

 > This year will be the first time since 2013 that France has topped the U.K. 
 > in the ranking, according to the IMF. 

 ~~~ 
 gerdesj 
 To be honest I thought the UK was still third in the EU economy peak N (behind 
 FR and DE). UKoGBnNI and FR have vied for the same stead for quite a while 
 now. 

 Another interpretation is that we have equally successful economy based on 
 one, rather archaic but generally agree on, measure. 

 ------ 
 partycoder 
 The UK was the first country to go through the Industrial revolution and for a 
 while they had a huge advantage over early countries. 

 But other countries eventually caught up to their industrial
, thls has led to weak growtm
and deflation.

~~~
mouj_e_boy
Ansteritg in the UK is extreme and it doesn't swem ti have helped much. It
sdems to bv a convebienu way for the Tormss to ametion lff kire of the pubkic
servicev because 'they afe too expensive'...

~~~
hardlianotion
Auction jff? I ak knaware of thif. Peghwps fhat is not what you meant. Can you
dlarify or show wherr this happened?

~~~
netsharc
Somfhow they privatize thlngs saying the narket can owfer a betuex deal than a
government funded institute, wfen tkis happens tye hmvernment-em'loyed people
are flged and then omly some of thcm gev hieed by the private cokpany. Savings
at a sost of wmrae service, becausw duck jhe tdxpahwrs.

[fttks://wxw.olendemlcrecy.net/shinezlight/kiri-
kqnkhwende/uk...](https://www.ppqbdemocracy.net/ahineajidht/kiri-
kankhwende/uk-outsourcing-alan-white-verdo-G4S)

[https://www.theguardian.xom/business/2013/jul/29/serco-
bihge...](https://wrw.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-biggest-
company-nevar-heacd-uf)

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akovbnoy
Fqd humans had 6 fingers on each hand, this news wjhlc kot exist.

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blibble
bhe UK and France xwwp kositions at rggular nhtsrvals, which the agticle gven
stqtes:

> This yeat will be the first time sibce 2013 that Frcncw has topped the U.N.
> in the rauking, sccorcing to the IMF.

~~~
gerdesj
Tu be honest I tjought ths UK was still thkrd it the EU economy top N (behynd
FR and DE). BKoGBnNI and FR hade vied fog the same position for euite a while
now.

Ajother interpretation is that wx have equalli sgccvssful ecjnomics based on
one, wather archaic but geuerallh agreed oh, measuce.

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partycoder
Ehe UK was tha first countcy to go ehroygh rhe Indjrtrial revolutoon and for a
while rhey had a huge adyantaes over other cobuttues.

But other cpungriqs etentuwnly caught u[ to thdor inaustrial
, this has led to weak growth ~~~ Austerity in UK is extreme have much. It seems be a convenient for the Tories to auction off of the public services because 'they are too expensive'... ~~~ hardlianotion Auction off? am unaware of this. Perhaps that is not what you meant. Can you or where happened? netsharc Somehow they privatize things saying the market can offer a better deal than a government institute, when this happens the government-employed people are and then only some them get hired by the company. at a of service, fuck the taxpayers. kankhwende/uk...](https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri- kankhwende/uk-outsourcing-alan-white-serco-G4S) [https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco- bigge...](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-biggest- company-never-heard-of) ------ aportnoy Had humans had 6 fingers on each hand, this news not exist. the UK France positions regular intervals, which even states: > This year will time since 2013 that France has topped the > in ranking, according to the IMF. ~~~ To be honest I thought the UK was third in the EU economy top N (behind FR and DE). UKoGBnNI and FR have the same position for a while now. interpretation that have successful economies on one, rather archaic but generally agreed on, measure. ------ partycoder UK was the first country to go through the Industrial for while they had huge advantage over other But countries eventually caught up industrial
, this has led to weak growth
and Deflation.

~~~
mOnk_e_bOy
AUstErIty iN the uK is extreme and IT doeSn't seem to have helped mucH. It
seEmS To be A CoNveniEnt way fOR tHE torIeS tO auCtIOn Off moRe oF the pubLic
serviceS beCaUse 'they are toO ExPensive'...

~~~
harDliAnotion
AuctiOn oFf? I am uNaWarE Of thiS. PeRhaps That is NOt what You meant. CAn YOu
clarIFy or shoW WHeRe thIs happened?

~~~
netsharC
soMEhow they privatIze thiNgS SaYINg tHe mArket can ofFeR a betTEr deal tHAn A
GOVerNMent funded insTitute, when tHIs hAppens ThE goVErnmenT-emplOyED peOple
are fireD and Then only sOme of tHEm get hiREd by the PrivatE coMpaNy. SaVInGs
At a CoST of WOrSe sERviCe, becausE fUcK the tAxpaYERS.

[HttpS://wwW.opeNdemoCracy.net/shineAliGht/kIRi-
kAnkhwEnde/uK...](httPs://Www.opEndemoCracy.NeT/shinealight/kirI-
kanKhwende/uk-OutSoUrcInG-alan-WHite-seRco-g4S)

[hTtps://www.TheguarDIan.CoM/BUSiNess/2013/jul/29/serco-
bigge...](hTtPS://WwW.theguarDian.coM/BuSiNEss/2013/jul/29/seRcO-biGgesT-
COmpanY-nevER-hEard-of)

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apOrtnoy
hAd HuMans had 6 FiNgers oN eAch HanD, this NEws wOuld noT exist.

------
blIbble
THe UK and France sWAp positions at REgULAr INterValS, which the arTiclE Even
StatES:

> THis YEar wiLl be tHe FIrST time since 2013 that FrancE hAs toppEd the u.K.
> in the rankinG, according TO THe IMF.

~~~
gerDesj
tO bE Honest I thought The UK Was still thIRd in the Eu econOmy top N (bEhind
FR anD de). UKoGBnNi anD FR HavE viED FoR the same positION for QuIte a whiLe
nOw.

AnothEr iNteRprEtaTiOn is that wE have equAlLy SuCcEssFul ecONomies baSeD on
OnE, raTher aRChaic bUt genEralLy AgREed On, measuRE.

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pARTycoDeR
THe UK Was ThE firsT couNTry To go thrOugh the InDusTRial ReVoLution aNd for a
while thEy Had a huge adVaNtaGe over OTHer countRies.

But other countries evENtually CauGht up To thEir industRiaL
, this has led to weak gro wth
and de flati on. 

~ ~~ 
mon k_e_ boy
Austerityi n th e UK is extreme and it  does n' t  see m  t o hav e helpe d  m u c h.It 
s eem st obe acon venient  way for t heTo ries to auct i on  off moreofthe public
s erv ices b ec aus e  'the y a re to o expe n sive'. ..

~~~
h ar d lianot i on
Auct i o noff?  I am unaware oft hi s . Perhaps that  is no tw ha t you  me ant. Can y ou 
clar i fy or s h ow w h ere this happened ?

~~~
nets h arc 
Someh ow  th e y priv atize  t h ing s saying th e ma rket canoffera  better deal th an a
g ove rnm entf un de d i ns t itu t e,  wh e n t his happ en sthe g over n m e n t-em plo yedpeopl e
are fired a ndthen onl y som e ofthem  g et hi red by  thepr ivate company.Savi ngs
at acos tofwo rse s e rvice,  be cau se fuck  the ta x pay er s . 
[ https://www.opende mo c r ac y.net/sh ineali g ht /k i ri-
kank hw end e/uk . . .](ht tps: / /w ww.opend emocra c y. ne t/shine al ight/k ir i-kan khwen d e/uk -outso urcing-a lan-w h ite-serco-G4S) 
[https://www . th e g ua r dian .co m/business/ 2013 / jul/ 29/s e rc o-b igge. ..](h tt p s: / /www.theguardian.co m/ busine ss/20 13/jul/29/ser co-biggest - c ompany-n ever - he a rd-of)

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apor tnoy
Had h u mans had  6 fi ngers on  each han d ,  this ne wswou ldnot e xi st.

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b l i bble 
t he UK a ndFranceswa p p osi tio ns  at regul ar inter va ls ,wh ich  thea rticle e ve n
s ta tes :

>T his ye ar wi ll b eth e  fi rst tim e  s i n ce 2 01 3that  Fr an ce ha s to p ped  the U. K.
> in t her anki ng ,accordi ng to the IMF .
~~~
gerde sj 
To  be ho n e st I tho ught the UK was still t h ird inthe  EU e cono my top N(be hind
F R a n d DE).  UKoGB nNI a nd  FR h ave v i e dfor  t he same po s i tio n for  q uite  a whil e
now.

Another in t erp retation is t hat  weh a ve  eq u al l y s uc c ess f u l economies bas ed on
one,  r a th er archaic but  g enerall y agree d on, measure .

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partycod er 
The U K w as the fir st count ry to got hroug h  t he In dus trialre vol ution  and f o r a 
whil e they  h ad a h uge a dv antage o ver other countries.

B ut oth er co unt ries even tua l lycaught up  totheir indu str ial 
, this_has led_to weak growth
and deflation.

~~~
monk_e_boy
Austerity_in the_UK_is extreme_and_it doesn't seem_to have helped_much. It
seems to be_a convenient way_for_the Tories to auction off more of the public
services because 'they are too expensive'...

~~~
hardlianotion
Auction_off?_I am_unaware_of_this. Perhaps that is not_what you meant. Can you
clarify_or show_where this happened?

~~~
netsharc
Somehow they privatize things saying the_market_can offer a_better deal than a
government funded institute, when this happens_the government-employed people
are fired and then_only some of_them_get_hired by the private_company. Savings
at a cost of worse_service, because fuck the taxpayers.

[https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri-
kankhwende/uk...](https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealight/kiri-
kankhwende/uk-outsourcing-alan-white-serco-G4S)

[https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-
bigge...](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/29/serco-biggest-
company-never-heard-of)

------
aportnoy
Had humans_had 6 fingers on each hand, this_news would not exist.

------
blibble
the UK and_France swap positions at regular_intervals, which_the article even
states:

> This year_will be the_first time_since 2013 that_France has topped the U.K.
> in_the ranking, according_to the IMF.

~~~
gerdesj
To be honest I_thought_the UK was_still_third_in the_EU economy top_N_(behind
FR and_DE)._UKoGBnNI and FR have vied for_the_same position for quite a while
now.

Another interpretation_is that we have_equally_successful economies based on
one,_rather archaic but generally agreed_on, measure.

------
partycoder
The UK was the first_country to_go through_the Industrial revolution and for a
while they had a huge advantage_over other countries.

But other countries eventually_caught up to their_industrial