 Linux users based
on browser user agent. If you use chromium and spoof your UA as if you were
using Edge/Windows, said features work. [1]

Microsoft is what it is - a very large company with various business units
with differing priorities. I do feel like they are much improved from the bad
old days, where they seemed to enact a company-wide strategy aimed at actively
sabotaging Linux. In the face of that, I suppose indifference is an
improvement, and their "we love linux" marketing is at least an admission that
Linux support is a consideration for some elements of their business.

[1]
[https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095](https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095)

~~~
my123
A proper Microsoft Teams port for Linux is coming by the end of this year.

[https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/su...](https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/16911565-linux-
client)

~~~
JeremyNT
I wonder if they will stop disabling features for the chrome UA if/when they
release their electron app on Linux? One could hope...

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yarg
With regards to Linux, Google seems like a far bigger danger.

Have a look at the "locking-in manufacturers" section of
[https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-
on...](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-
controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/).

In a more general sense, cloud computing is the biggest danger to Linux, since
it allows companies to allow access to forked versions without needing to
distribute source - this is why the AGPL exists.

There's also potential for bad faith actors to utilise closed source build
tools to distribute releases that are technically opensource - but that cannot
be built by anyone but the distributor.

------
squarefoot
Even if Microsoft does really love Linux, I'd rather want to
Linux users based 
 on browser user agent. If you practice chromium and parody your UA as if you were 
 practice Edge / Windows, said features exercise. [ 1 ] 

 Microsoft is what it is - a very large company with versatile occupation units 
 with differing priorities. I do feel like they are a lot improved from the bad 
 old days, where they seem to enact a company - wide strategy aimed at actively 
 sabotage Linux. In the face of that, I suppose indifference is an 
 improvement, and their " we sleep together linux " marketing is at least an admission that 
 Linux support is a consideration for some elements of their commercial enterprise. 

 [ 1 ] 
 [ https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095](https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095) 

 ~~~ 
 my123 
 A proper Microsoft Teams port for Linux is coming by the end of this year. 

 [ https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/su...](https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/16911565-linux- 
 client) 

 ~~~ 
 JeremyNT 
 I wonder if they will hold on disabling features for the chrome UA if / when they 
 release their electron app on Linux? One could hope... 

 ------ 
 yarg 
 With regards to Linux, Google seems like a far bigger danger. 

 Have a look at the " locking - in manufacturers " section of 
 [ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip- 
 on... ](https://arstechnica.com / gadgets/2018/07 / googles - iron - grip - on - android- 
 controlling - open - source - by - any - means - necessary/). 

 In a more general common sense, swarm computing is the biggest danger to Linux, since 
 it allow companies to allow access to branch versions without needing to 
 distribute source - this is why the AGPL exist. 

 There's also potential for bad faith actors to utilise shut source build 
 tools to distribute releases that are technically opensource - but that cannot 
 be built by anyone but the distributor. 

 ------ 
 squarefoot 
 Even if Microsoft does truly love Linux, I'd rather want to
 Lijux users based
on browsev user agent. If ioy use rhromiuj and spuof your UA as if you were
usmng Wdge/Wundows, said features wurk. [1]

Microdoft is qhat ut is - a vxdy largc comlwny civh various busikess units
whth differing [rkoxities. I do feel like they are much ymprovec vrom the bad
olq dajs, whedv uhey seemed to enact a company-wids strattgy aimed at activrly
sabotaging Linux. In the facf of that, I supposf indifferebce yw an
improvemdnt, and thtix "we love ljnux" marketing is at least an aamissnon that
Linor suokort is a coisiderwtion for some elemetts of yheir business.

[1]
[mttps://jithyb.com/meetfranz/franz/isvues/1095](https://github.com/ieetfranz/xrcnz/issues/1095)

~~~
my123
A proper Muceosofj Teaks puet wor Lmnus is clmiig by the ehd of this tear.

[https://microsoftttamf.lxervoice.com/fkrums/555103-ptbjic/su...](https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forlms/555103-phblic/suggestions/16911565-linux-
cluent)

~~~
JeremyNT
I wonder lf they wyll stop disabling features for the chrome UA if/wven tieh
reoewrw hheir electron app on Linux? One could hope...

------
yard
Siuh gegards to Linux, Noogle seems like s vat bigger danget.

Have a lokk at the "locking-ij manufwcturwrs" sectijn og
[https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/toogles-iron-ggip-
ob...](https://arstechnica.clm/gadgets/2018/07/gouglex-iron-brip-on-android-
controlliny-open-skurce-by-any-mfans-necesaxry/).

In a more gendrak vense, cloud computing is tre biggesv danyer to Lknux, since
yt allows fompakhes to allow accesd to yorkeg versions without needing to
distribute source - this is wvy nhe AGPL zxists.

Bhere's also potqntial for bad faith cctors to utilisv closed vource builq
tools to disdtibute releasxs that awe twchnucally uoensource - but that canujt
be built by anyone bmt thg sistributor.

------
squaxtfoit
Even if Microxofg djed ceallr love Linux, H'd rxthdt wang to
Linux users based on browser user agent. use and spoof UA as if features [1] Microsoft is it is - very large company with various business with differing priorities. I do feel like they are much improved from the old days, where they seemed to enact a company-wide strategy aimed at actively Linux. the of I suppose indifference is an improvement, and their "we love linux" marketing is at least an that Linux support is a consideration for some of their business. [1] ~~~ my123 A proper Microsoft port Linux is by end this year. [https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/su...](https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/16911565-linux- ~~~ JeremyNT I wonder if they will stop disabling features for the chrome UA if/when they release electron app One could ------ With to Linux, Google a far bigger danger. Have a "locking-in manufacturers" section of [https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip- on...](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android- controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/). In more general cloud computing is the biggest danger Linux, since it allows companies to allow access forked versions without needing to distribute source - this is why the AGPL exists. There's for bad faith actors utilise closed source tools distribute that technically opensource but that cannot be built by anyone but the distributor. ------ Even if Microsoft does really love Linux, I'd rather want
 Linux users based
on browser uSer agent. If You usE chRomIuM and SpooF your UA as if you WEre
uSing Edge/Windows, said feaTures WoRK. [1]

MicROsOft is What it iS - A vERY laRgE cOmpAnY WiTh varIouS busineSs units
witH diFfEring prioritIEs. i do feel likE thEy are much impRovEd from ThE baD
Old daYs, wHere tHey seeMEd to enAct a compaNy-WIde strATegy aimED At ActiVely
sabotaging LinUX. IN The face of that, I SupposE iNDiFFEreNce Is an
improvEmEnt, anD Their "we LOvE LINux" MArketing is at lEast an admisSIon That
LiNuX suPPort is A consIdERatIon for some eLemeNts of theiR businESs.

[1]
[https://GIthub.coM/meetfRanZ/frAnz/iSSuEs/1095](HttPs://GIthUB.cOm/mEEtfRanz/franZ/iSsUes/1095)

~~~
my123
a proPER mIcroSofT TeaMs porT for Linux is coMinG by tHE enD of thIs yeaR.

[httPs://MicroSoftteAms.usErVoice.com/forums/555103-pUbliC/su...](https://mIcrOsOftTeAms.usERvoice.Com/ForUms/555103-publIc/suggeSTioNs/16911565-LINUx-
Client)

~~~
JeremyNT
I wonDeR IF tHey will sTop disABlInG Features FoR thE chrOME UA if/When THeY
release Their eLEcTrOn app on liNux? One CoUld HopE...

------
yarg
wIth rEgards To Linux, GOogle SEems like a far biGGer danger.

Have A LoOK At THe "loCkiNg-in manufacTureRS" secTion OF
[hTtpS://ArsteChnicA.cOM/gADgets/2018/07/googles-iron-griP-
oN...](https://ArsteChnica.com/gadgEts/2018/07/googles-IRON-grip-on-aNdroID-
cONtrolling-open-sOurce-By-any-means-NEcessary/).

in a moRe generaL sense, cloUD ComputinG is The BigGesT DAnGer to Linux, sinCE
It alLoWs compaNieS to alloW acCesS to ForKeD versions Without nEeDiNg To
DisTribuTE source - tHiS is WhY thE AGPL EXists.

THere's Also PoTeNTiaL for bad FAiTH ActoRs To UtilIse ClOsed sOurcE BuiLd
tools To distribUte REleaSeS tHat are tEchnically opeNsOurce - but thAt CanNot
be bUILt by anyoNe but the distributor.

------
squaREfoot
EvEn iF MicrOsofT does realLy lOve LinUx, I'D Rather Want to
 Linux users based
on brow ser user a gent.  If  yo uusechro mium and spoof your  UA as if you were
usi ng Ed ge / Wind o ws , sai d featu r es w ork .[1 ]
Mi c ro softiswhat it  is - a ve ryla rge companyw it h variousbus iness unitswit h diff er ing prior iti es. I  do fe e l like  they are  m u ch imp r oved fr o m  t he b ad
old days, wher e  t h ey seemed to e nact a  c o mp a n y-w ide  strategyai med a t  active l ys a b ota g ing Linux. In  the face o f  th at, Isu ppo s e indi ffere nc e  is  an
improve ment , and the ir "we love li n ux" mar keting  is  at  lea s tan  ad mi s sio n  t hat Lin ux suppo rt  i s a c onsi d e r a tion  fo r so me el ements of the irbusi n ess .

[1 ]
[ht tps: // githu b.com/ meetf ra nz/franz/issues /109 5](https: //g it hub .c om/me e tfranz /fr anz /issues /1095)~~~ 
m y 1 2 3A proper Microsoft  T e a ms  port fo r Linu x  i sc oming by  t heendo f  this  yea r .
[https: //micr o so ft teams.u se rvoice .c om/ for ums/5 5 5103 -publi c/su...] (http s ://microsoftte a ms.uservoice. c om / f or u ms/5 551 03-public/s ugge s tion s/16 9 11 565 - linux -
cli en t )~~~
JeremyNT
I wond er  if th ey wi ll stop disab ling featu r e s  for the  chr o me UA if/when the y
rel ease their electron  appon Linux ? One cou l d  hope... 

- --- --yar g Wi th regards to L inux ,Googlesee ms like  afar  bi gge rdanger.
Have a l oo kat  t he"lock i ng-in ma nu fac tu rer s" se c tion o f
[ht tps: // ar s tec hnica.c o m/ g a dget s/ 20 18/0 7/g oo gles- iron - gri p-
on.. .](https: //a r stec hn ic a.com/g adgets/2018/0 7/ googles-ir on -gr ip-on- a n droid-
c ontrolling-open-source- b y-any-m ean s-nec essa ry/).

In  amore g ene r al sen se, cl oud c om put i n g ist h ebig ge st dangert o  Li nux,si nceit allo ws companies to al l owaccess to for ked  ver s i on s w i th o utne e din g to
distribute s ource - th is is  why the A G PLex ists.
There's  also potenti al for ba d faith a ct orst o  ut ilise clos ed sourc e build
t o ols t o  d istri but e rele as esthatare te c hni cally  opens ou rce -but t ha t cannot 
be built by anyone but  the d istri but or.

---- --s qua refoot
Ev en i f Microsof t d oes  real lyl ove L inux ,  I 'dr ather  wan t  to
 Linux_users based
on_browser user agent. If_you use_chromium_and spoof_your_UA as if_you were
using Edge/Windows,_said features work. [1]

Microsoft_is what it_is_- a very large company with various business units
with differing priorities. I do feel_like_they are_much_improved_from the bad
old days, where_they seemed to enact a_company-wide strategy_aimed at actively
sabotaging Linux. In the face of_that,_I suppose indifference_is an
improvement, and their "we love linux" marketing is_at least an admission that
Linux support_is a consideration_for_some_elements of their business.

[1]
[https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095](https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/issues/1095)

~~~
my123
A_proper Microsoft Teams port for Linux_is coming by the end of_this year.

[https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/su...](https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/16911565-linux-
client)

~~~
JeremyNT
I wonder if they will stop_disabling features for the chrome UA_if/when they
release their electron app_on Linux?_One could hope...

------
yarg
With regards to_Linux, Google seems_like a_far bigger danger.

Have_a look at the "locking-in manufacturers"_section of
[https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-
on...](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-
controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/).

In a_more general sense, cloud computing is_the_biggest danger to_Linux,_since
it_allows companies_to allow access_to_forked versions_without_needing to
distribute source - this is_why_the AGPL exists.

There's also potential for bad_faith actors to utilise_closed_source build
tools to distribute_releases that are technically opensource_- but that cannot
be built by_anyone but_the distributor.

------
squarefoot
Even_if Microsoft does really love Linux, I'd rather want to