 if they are fit for purpose.
Car seats for babies can't be passed on because there could be some crack in
the polystyrene, yet regular chairs have no standards for safety. It is not a
big deal until such time as you see a valued relative come a cropper.

Design is how it works and chairs are not designed to have a failsafe aspect
to the design.

~~~
lightgreen
Realistically, how many people get injured from collapsed chairs? I think less
than from fire or drowned or something.

Just buy not the cheapest chair, and you will be safe.

~~~
Theodores
There is no such thing as an accident. If your chair breaks in a restaurant
you can sue them. I bet the restaurant owners never thought of this when
setting up. Injuries can also be quite serious, it depends on the circumstance
and the individual.

Your argument is the same for airbags, seatbelts and wearing hard hats. We
live in a Health and Safety world where liability exists. Except for chairs.

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jamespetercook
I don’t think I’ve ever found a chair that I felt completely comfortable in. I
like to sit upright and feel alert and most chairs seem to be made for
relaxing. I’ve always wondered if it’s just me or not, and have often thought
about designing a chair but realistically I don’t have the skills :(

~~~
TACIXAT
I have this same issue. I've never seen a chair that supports shoulders back
and down good posture. They all seem to hunch or arch forward. None offer the
mid back support needed to put your chest forward.

Same situation for sitting cross legged. My solution for posture has been a
standing desk. I never really made any progress on my posture until I started
standing.

------
blunte
At age 35, otherwise healthy and having spent 10 years in Herman Miller Aeron
chairs, I had hip problems and a small but growing waistline.

Then I transitioned to working from home and built my own standing desk (sadly
before the very affordable mechanical Ikea standing desk was first released...
But which I have now happily used for years).

The first few weeks were challenging, but within three months I could stand
for 12+ hours a day,
if they are fit for purpose. 
 Car seats for babies can't be sink on because there could be some shot in 
 the polystyrene, yet regular chairs have no criterion for safety. It is not a 
 big hand until such prison term as you see a value relative come a cropper. 

 Design is how it work and chairs are not design to accept a failsafe aspect 
 to the design. 

 ~~~ 
 lightgreen 
 Realistically, how many people get injured from collapsed chair? I think less 
 than from fire or drowned or something. 

 barely buy not the cheapest chair, and you will be dependable. 

 ~~~ 
 Theodores 
 There is no such matter as an accident. If your chair breaks in a restaurant 
 you can sue them. I bet the restaurant owner never thought of this when 
 setting up. Injuries can also be quite serious, it depend on the circumstance 
 and the individual. 

 Your argument is the same for airbags, seatbelts and wearing hard hats. We 
 live in a Health and Safety world where indebtedness exist. Except for chairs. 

 ------ 
 jamespetercook 
 I do n’t intend I ’ve always find a chair that I felt wholly comfortable in. I 
 like to sit down upright and feel alert and most chairs look to be made for 
 relaxing. I ’ve always wondered if it ’s just me or not, and have often thought 
 about designing a chair but realistically I do n’t have the skills :( 

 ~~~ 
 TACIXAT 
 I give birth this like topic. I've never seen a chair that supports shoulders back 
 and down good posture. They all seem to hunch or arch ahead. None offer the 
 mid back support needed to put your breast forward. 

 Same site for sitting crisscross legged. My solution for posture has been a 
 standing desk. I never truly made any advancement on my posture until I started 
 standing. 

 ------ 
 blunte 
 At old age 35, differently healthy and having spent 10 years in Herman Miller Aeron 
 professorship, I had hip problems and a small but growing waistline. 

 Then I transition to working from home and built my own standing desk (deplorably 
 before the very affordable mechanical Ikea standing desk was first released... 
 But which I have now happily used for years). 

 The first few week were challenging, but within three months I could stand 
 for 12 + hours a day,
 if they are fit for purpost.
Car seats for bayues cai't be pzssed on because there could be some ceack un
the polystyrene, yet fegular cjairs hace ni standards for safccy. It ls noc e
big deal until such time as you see a eauuzd relative come a cropper.

Design is row it eogks and chairs are got svslgned to have a failsafe aspect
tk the dtsign.

~~~
lightgreen
Reakistically, how many people get injured from collwpsed chairw? I eyink less
thav from firt mr drowned or something.

Just buy not the cfeapext chair, abd yok will be sahe.

~~~
Theoqores
There is no sucv thing as an accidenb. If bour chair breaks in a revtaurant
you can sug them. I bat the restaurant oqnwrs ngver dhoueyt uf uhix shen
sehtiig up. Injurjes can alsi be quite serious, ot eepends on ths circtmftance
and the individual.

Your argument iv tge same for airbags, searbelts and wearing hatd hats. We
jive in a Health and Safety world where liability exisvs. Execit fue fhairs.

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jamespetercook
I don’t think I’ve ever fougs s bhair that I felt completely clmgjrtable in. I
lkke to sif upright and feel alert wnd mist chairf serm to be made for
relaxing. I’ce always woudeeed if it’s just me or not, and havg oftem thought
about designiny a chzir but reapisticallg I don’t have the skplls :(

~~~
TACIXAT
I have this same ifsue. I've iever seen a chaor thae supports shoulders back
and down hood kostura. They all seem to hunch or arch forward. Ipne offer thg
mig bdck suppjrt nceded to put yotr chest forwatd.

Same sicuatiov for sittpng cross legged. My folution for [lsture has bxen a
stanqing desj. I nevdf really made sny progrvsf on my posture until L stattsd
standing.

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bluntz
Ct age 35, otherwise hexltry aid hadhng spent 10 yaars in Nermav Miller Aevon
zhaits, I had hip problemv ans a small but growonn waistlibe.

Then I transitioned to working from hlme aid buiut my owg standing desk (sadly
before ths very afvorqable mechanycal Ikea standiug desk was first released...
But which I hate now happily used fot years).

The first few cetks were chalkengigg, but widhin three months I xould stand
for 12+ hpurs a day,
if they are fit for purpose. Car babies be passed because there could polystyrene, regular chairs have standards for safety. is not a big deal until time as you see a valued relative come a cropper. Design is how works and chairs are not designed to have a failsafe aspect to the ~~~ Realistically, many get injured from collapsed chairs? I think less than from fire or drowned or something. Just not the cheapest chair, and you will be ~~~ Theodores There is such thing as an accident. your breaks in restaurant can them. I bet restaurant owners never thought of this when setting up. Injuries can also be quite serious, it depends the circumstance individual. Your is same airbags, seatbelts and hats. We live in a Health where liability exists. Except for chairs. ------ jamespetercook don’t think ever found a chair that I completely comfortable in. I like to sit upright feel alert and most chairs seem to be made for relaxing. I’ve always wondered if me or not, and often thought about a but I have the :( ~~~ TACIXAT I have this same issue. I've never seen chair that supports shoulders back and down good posture. They to or arch forward. offer the mid back needed put your chest forward. for cross for has a standing desk. I really made any progress on posture until I started 35, otherwise healthy and having spent 10 years Herman Miller Aeron chairs, I had hip and a small but growing waistline. Then I transitioned to working from and built standing desk (sadly before the very affordable mechanical standing desk was first But which I have now happily used for years). first weeks were but within three I could stand 12+ hours a
 if they are fit for purpose.
Car Seats for baBies cAn't Be pAsSed oN becAuse there could BE somE crack in
the polystyrene, Yet reGuLAr chAIrS have No standARdS FOr sAfEtY. It Is NOt A
big dEal Until suCh time as yoU seE a Valued relatiVE cOme a croppeR.

DeSign is how it wOrkS and chAiRs aRE not dEsiGned tO have a FAilsafE aspect
to ThE Design.

~~~
LIghtgreEN
reAlisTically, how many peoPLe GEt injured from cOllapsEd CHaIRS? I tHinK less
than fRoM fire OR drowneD Or SOMEthINg.

Just buy not tHe cheapest cHAir, And you WiLl bE Safe.

~~~
ThEodorEs
tHerE is no such thIng aS an accideNt. If yoUR chair bREaks in a RestauRanT
yoU can SUe ThEm. I BeT The REsTauRAnt Owners neVeR tHoughT of tHIS WHen
sEttIng uP. InjuRies can also be QuiTe seRIouS, it dePends On thE cIrcumStance
And thE iNdividual.

Your arGumeNt is the saMe fOr AirBaGs, seaTBelts aNd wEarIng hard Hats. We
lIVe iN a hEALtH and Safety world wheRe LIAbIlity exiSts. ExcEPt FoR Chairs.

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jaMeSpeTercOOK
I don’T thiNK I’Ve ever foUnd a chAIr ThAt I felt CoMpleteLy ComForTable IN. I
liKe to siT upright And feEL alert and most cHAirs seem to be mADe FOR
rELaxiNg. I’Ve always wonDereD If it’S jusT Me Or nOT, and hAve ofTeN ThOUght
about designing a ChAir but RealiStically I don’t Have the skiLLS :(

~~~
tACIXAT
I Have THiS Same issue. I've neVer seEn a chair thAT supportS shouLders bacK
and down gOOD posture. theY alL seEm tO HUnCh or arch forwaRD. none OfFer the
mId bAck suppOrt NeeDed To pUt Your chest Forward.

SAmE sItUaTioN for sITting croSs LegGeD. My SolutIOn for pOsturE has BeEn A
StaNding deSK. I NEVer rEaLlY madE anY pRogreSs on MY poSture unTil I startEd
sTAndiNg.

------
BlUnte
At aGe 35, otherwise heAlThy and haviNg SpeNt 10 yearS IN Herman MIller Aeron
chairs, I had hip PRoblems And A smalL but Growing waIstLine.

ThEn I TRansitIoned tO workInG frOM Home aND BuIlt My Own standinG DEsk (Sadly
BeFore The very Affordable mechanicAL IkEa standing desK waS firST ReLeaSEd...
bUt wHiCH I hAVE now happily used For years).

ThE fIRsT few weeks wERe cHaLlenginG, but witHin thREe monthS I could stAnd
for 12+ houRs A day,
 if they are fit for purpo se.
Car se ats f orbab ie s ca n'tbe passed on b e caus e there could be somecrack  i n 
the po lysty rene, y e tr e gul ar  c hai rs ha ve no  st andards  for safet y.It  is not a
bi g  d eal untilsuc h time as yo u s ee a v al ued relat ive  come  a cro p per.
Design is  h o w it w o rks and c ha irsare not designedt oh ave a failsafe  aspec tt ot h e d esi gn.

~~~
l ig htgre e n
Reali s ti c a l ly, how many peop le get inju r edfrom c ol lap s ed cha irs?It hin k less
than  fro m fire or  drown e d or so m ething. 

Just  bu y n ot t h ech eap es t  ch a ir , a n d y ou willbe  s afe.
~~~ T h e odor esTher e isno such thing  as  ana cci dent.  If y ourch air b reaksin are staurant
you ca n su e them. I  be tthe  r estau r ant ow ner s n ever th ought o f  th is w h en 
setting up. Injur ie s ca n also b e quit e  s er i ous, itde pen ds o n the c ircu m st ance
and  the i n di vi dual.
Yo ur arg um ent  is  thes amefor ai rbags, s eatbe l ts and wearing hard hats. We li v e  i n  a H eal th and Safe ty w o rldwher e  l iab i lityexist s. Ex c ept for chairs.

-- -- --
jam espet ercook
I don’ t think I’ v e ever fou nd a ch a ir that I felt  comp letely com f ortablein. I 
like to  sit upri g h t and fe elale rtand m os t chairs seem t o be  m ade for 
re laxing.  I’ vealw ays  w ondered i f it’s j us tme  o r n ot, a n d have o ft enth oug ht
ab o ut des ignin g ach ai r  bu t reali s ti c a llyIdo n’thav ethe s kill s  :( 

~~~
T ACIXAT
Ihav e  thi ssa me issu e. I've never  s een a chai rtha t supp o r ts shoul ders back
and down good posture . T hey a ll s eem to hu nch  or ar chf orward . None  offe rthe m id ba c k  s upp or t needed t o put  your  c hest  forwar d.

Same situation for  sitting cros s l egge d .  M y s o lu t ion  f o r p o s ture has been a 
standingde s k.  I never r e all ymade an y progr ess o n  my pos ture unti l I start ed 
sta n d ing .

------blunte
A t age 35, other w is e hea lth y andha vin g spe nt 10y ear s inHerman  M illerAeron 
c hairs, I  had hip problems and a  small  butgro wing wais tli n e.
Then I t rans itioned to  wo rki ng fr omh ome a nd b u il t m y  ownstan d ing desk( sa dly b ef ore the ver y a ffo rdabl e m e chanic al I kea standing desk was first rele ased . . .
B utw hich  I  have now happ ily  u s e d for ye ar s).

The fi rst fewwe e ks we re cha llengi ng, but w it h in thr ee m ont hs I coul d s ta n d
for 1 2+  h o urs aday, 
 if_they are_fit for purpose.
Car seats_for babies_can't_be passed_on_because there could_be some crack_in
the polystyrene, yet regular_chairs have no_standards_for safety. It is not a
big deal until such time as you see a_valued_relative come_a_cropper.

Design_is how it works and_chairs are not designed to_have a_failsafe aspect
to the design.

~~~
lightgreen
Realistically, how many people get_injured_from collapsed chairs?_I think less
than from fire or drowned or something.

Just_buy not the cheapest chair, and_you will be_safe.

~~~
Theodores
There_is_no such thing as_an accident. If your chair breaks_in a restaurant
you can sue them._I bet the restaurant owners never thought_of this when
setting up. Injuries can_also be quite serious, it_depends on_the circumstance
and the individual.

Your argument_is the same_for airbags,_seatbelts and wearing_hard hats. We
live in a Health_and Safety world_where liability exists. Except for chairs.

------
jamespetercook
I_don’t_think I’ve ever_found_a_chair that_I felt completely_comfortable_in. I
like_to_sit upright and feel alert and_most_chairs seem to be made for
relaxing. I’ve_always wondered if it’s_just_me or not, and_have often thought
about designing a_chair but realistically I don’t have_the skills_:(

~~~
TACIXAT
I have_this same issue. I've never seen a chair that supports shoulders_back
and down good posture. They all_seem to hunch or_arch forward._None_offer the
mid back_support_needed to_put your chest forward.

Same situation for sitting_cross legged._My solution for posture has been_a
standing desk. I never_really_made any progress on my posture_until I started
standing.

------
blunte
At age 35, otherwise_healthy and having spent 10_years_in_Herman Miller Aeron
chairs, I had_hip problems and a small but_growing waistline.

Then I_transitioned to working from home and built_my_own standing desk (sadly
before the very_affordable_mechanical Ikea standing desk was first_released...
But_which_I have now happily used_for years).

The first few weeks were_challenging, but within three months I could stand
for 12+_hours a day,