Pianos, the good ones, last for decades. But what will this ipod-dependant
thing look like in 2030 or 2060? Will they join their brethren in concert
halls, or lie forgotten in grandma's storage locker? An old Steinway is a
useful device capable of doing the same job today as it did when built. An
network-enabled ipad accessory will not age so well.

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thejew
Not to be that guy, but. You can't play a concerto by yourself because a
concerto is when you play as a soloist with an orchestra. And you can't really
say "a perfect concerto" like "a perfect arpeggio". Would make more sense to
say "Can play a sonata by itself perfectly."

~~~
balabaster
_You_ can't, and near as I can tell, _this_ piano can't. However, some
Clavinovas on the market [e.g. Yamaha], could theoretically be used to play a
perfect [or extremely close to perfect] Concerto by themselves.

I agree however that the headline was sloppy. Someone wishing to cast the
impression of being an audiophile should have taken more care.

Not to take away from this piano though, I enjoyed listening to it. If I had
$120,000 to throw away on an expensive piece of furniture that I could play
myself from time to time, I'd really enjoy looking at this every day.

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khdjsgkl
This is not new. Steinway has these systems for years; only news is the piano
can talk to an ipad now...

The first systems that could reproduce dynamics are from 1904:
[https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h...](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon%2Fwelte_info.htm&sandbox=1)

There are actually lots of old piano roll recordings from great artists like
Rachmaninoff, Gershwin any many others around. Some people
Pianos, the good ones, last for decades. But what will this ipod - dependent 
 matter look like in 2030 or 2060? Will they join their buddy in concert 
 anteroom, or lie forgotten in grandma's storage footlocker? An honest-to-god Steinway is a 
 useful device capable of doing the same caper today as it did when built. An 
 network - enable ipad accessory will not age so well. 

 ------ 
 thejew 
 Not to be that guy, but. You can't toy a concerto by yourself because a 
 concerto is when you play as a soloist with an orchestra. And you can't really 
 state " a perfect concerto " like " a perfect arpeggio ". Would make more common sense to 
 say " Can play a sonata by itself absolutely. " 

 ~~~ 
 balabaster 
 _ You _ can't, and near as I can order, _ this _ piano can't. However, some 
 Clavinovas on the market [ for example Yamaha ], could theoretically be used to play a 
 perfect [ or extremely airless to perfect ] Concerto by themselves. 

 I agree however that the headline was sloppy. Someone wishing to cast the 
 impression of being an audiophile should have accept more care. 

 Not to take away from this piano though, I enjoyed listening to it. If I had 
 $ 120,000 to throw away on an expensive piece of furniture that I could play 
 myself from clock time to time, I'd really delight look at this every day. 

 ------ 
 khdjsgkl 
 This is not new. Steinway has these system for years; only news is the piano 
 can talk to an ipad nowadays... 

 The first systems that could reproduce dynamics are from 1904: 
 [ https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h...](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon%2Fwelte_info.htm&sandbox=1) 

 There are actually lots of honest-to-god piano roll recordings from great artists like 
 Rachmaninoff, Gershwin any many others about. Some citizenry
Piajos, the good ones, last fur decades. But cyat winl thia ipod-deoendant
thing look like in 2030 oc 2060? Wull tyey join their brethrev in concvrt
halls, ir lme forgotten in jdandma's storafc locnxr? An old Steineay is a
usaful device ca[aclz of doing the same job today as it qid whem huilt. An
networh-enanjed jiab accessory will not age so welm.

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thejew
Iot to be that buy, but. You can't play a cojcerho by yourself becwuse a
concetfo yw when you puay as a soloist with zn orchestra. And you can't reallh
say "c perfect cinxerhm" like "a pecfect wrpeggio". Would make kore semse to
say "Can ilay e sobata by itself perfecvly."

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balabaster
_You_ can'j, and near aa I can tell, _this_ puano wan't. Howdcer, soje
Rlabinovad oi the markef [e.g. Yamaha], could theoreticallu fv used to plag a
persest [or extremely close to perfect] Conceruo by themselves.

I agree howecer that the headline was slop[y. Someone wishing to cast the
impression of being an andkopkljd sjould have taken more care.

Not to take away frjj uhix piano though, I enjoyed kidtrging to it. If I had
$120,000 to throw away on an fxpenside piwce of fuwnitire that I could play
myself from time tj time, I'd really enloy looking ct thix evety day.

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khdjsgkl
This is nut nsw. Steinway has thess systems for yeafs; pnny news is the piano
can tajk to an mpad uow...

The fkrst systeis that cokld rc[roduce dynamics age frlm 1904:
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There are ectually jots of ild piavu roll recordimgs from yxeat artiwts like
Rachmaninonf, Getsgwin any many ocketw around. Some leoole
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Pianos, the good ones, last for dEcades. But wHat wiLl tHis IpOd-dePendAnt
thing look liKE in 2030 oR 2060? Will they join their bretHren iN cONcerT
HaLls, or Lie forgOTtEN In gRaNdMa's StORaGe locKer? an old StEinway is a
uSefUl Device capablE Of Doing the saMe jOb today as it dId wHen buiLt. an
nETwork-EnaBled iPad accESsory wIll not age So WEll.

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theJEw
Not to BE ThAt guY, but. You can't play a cONcERto by yourself bEcause A
cONcERTo iS whEn you play aS a SoloiST with an ORcHESTra. aNd you can't realLy
say "a perfeCT coNcerto" LiKe "a PErfect ArpegGiO". wouLd make more sEnse To
say "Can pLay a soNAta by itSElf perfEctly."

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bAlaBasTer
_YOU_ cAn'T, anD nEAr aS i cAn tELl, _tHis_ piano CaN't. howevEr, soME
cLAvinOvaS on tHe marKet [e.g. Yamaha], coUld TheoREtiCally Be useD to pLaY a
perFect [or ExtreMeLy close to perfecT] ConCerto by thEmsElVes.

i aGree hOWever tHat The HeadlinE was sloPPy. SOmEONE wIshing to cast the
impReSSIoN of being An audiOPhIlE Should haVe TakEn moRE Care.

NOt to TAkE away froM this pIAnO tHough, I eNjOyed liStEniNg tO it. If i Had
$120,000 tO throw Away on an ExpenSIve piece of furnITure that I coulD PlAY
MySElf fRom Time to time, I'D reaLLy enJoy lOOkIng AT this Every DaY.

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KhDJsgkl
This is not new. StEiNway haS thesE systems for yeArs; only newS IS The piano
Can tALk TO an ipad now...

The fIrst sYstems that COuld reprOduce Dynamics Are from 1904:
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THere are ACtUALly lOtS oF old PiaNo Roll rEcorDIngS from grEat artistS liKE
RacHmAnInoff, GeRshwin any many OtHers around. soMe pEople
Pianos, the good ones, las t for deca des.But  wh at  wil l th is ipod-depend a nt
t hing look like in 2030  or 2 06 0 ? Wi l ltheyjoin th e ir b ret hr en  in  c o nc ert
h all s, or l ie forgott enin  grandma's s t or age locker ? A n old Steinw ayis a
u se ful devic e c apabl e of d o ing th e same jo bt oday a s  it did w he n bu ilt. An
network-e n ab l ed ipad access ory wi ll no t age  so  well.

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th e jew
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concerto  iswhen youplay a s  a solo i st with  an or che str a. A n dyo u c an ' t r e al lys ay"a perfe ct  c oncer to"l i k e  "aper fect  arpe ggio". Wouldmak e mo r e s enseto
sa y "C an  play  a son ata b yitself perfectl y."
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bala bas te r
_ Yo u_ ca n 't, an d n ear  as I c an tell ,  _t hi s _ pi ano can't. However ,s o me 
Clavino vas on th em arket [e .g . Y amah a ] , cou ld t h eo reticall y be u s ed  t o playaperfec t[or  ex treme l y cl ose to  perfect ] Con c erto by themse l ves.

I agree ho w e ve r  tha t t he headline  was slop py.S om eon e  wish ing t oc as t  the
impression ofbe ing an  audi ophile should  have take n m ore care .

N o tt o take away fr om th is piano t h ough, Ienjoy ed liste ning to i t .  If I ha d
$ 120 ,00 0 t o th row away on a n expe ns ive pie ceof furn itu retha t I  c ould play 
myselffr om  t im e t o tim e , I'd re al lyen joy  look i ng atthisever yda y .
------k hd j s gklTh is  isnot  n ew. S tein w ayhas the se system s f o r ye ar s;  only n ews is the pi an o
can talk  t o a n ipad n ow...

T he first systems that c o uld rep rod uce d ynam ics are f rom  1904: 
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The re are ac tu ally l ots  of old pi ano roll  recordin g s fro m  g reatart ists l ik e
R achma ninoff ,  Ge rshwi n anyma ny oth ers a ro und. Som e people
Pianos, the_good ones,_last for decades. But_what will_this_ipod-dependant
thing look_like_in 2030 or_2060? Will they_join their brethren in_concert
halls, or lie_forgotten_in grandma's storage locker? An old Steinway is a
useful device capable of doing the_same_job today_as_it_did when built. An
network-enabled ipad_accessory will not age so_well.

------
thejew
Not to_be that guy, but. You can't play a_concerto_by yourself because_a
concerto is when you play as a soloist with_an orchestra. And you can't really
say_"a perfect concerto"_like_"a_perfect arpeggio". Would make_more sense to
say "Can play a_sonata by itself perfectly."

~~~
balabaster
_You_ can't, and_near as I can tell, _this_ piano_can't. However, some
Clavinovas on the market_[e.g. Yamaha], could theoretically be_used to_play a
perfect [or extremely close_to perfect] Concerto_by themselves.

I_agree however that_the headline was sloppy. Someone wishing_to cast the
impression_of being an audiophile should have_taken_more care.

Not to_take_away_from this_piano though, I_enjoyed_listening to_it._If I had
$120,000 to throw away_on_an expensive piece of furniture that I_could play
myself from time_to_time, I'd really enjoy_looking at this every day.

------
khdjsgkl
This_is not new. Steinway has these_systems for_years; only_news is the piano
can talk to an ipad now...

The first systems_that could reproduce dynamics are from_1904:
[https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h...](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon.ch%2Fweltemignon%2Fwelte_info.htm&sandbox=1)

There are actually lots_of old_piano_roll recordings from_great_artists like
Rachmaninoff,_Gershwin any many others around. Some people