 changed. It's more transparent now, because users asked for
it to be. Transparency has the side-effect of making it seem to some people
like we've fundamentally altered HN when it doesn't work like they assumed it
did.

~~~
staunch
Few people know better what PG, yourself, and others have done for this site
or appreciate it more than me. I've seen lots of threads get penalized or
killed and reversed. I know it hasn't been perfect in the past either.

I regret saying anything and I won't comment in the future. Thanks.

~~~
dang
Please don't regret saying anything and for heaven's sake please don't stop
commenting! This stuff is messy, unobvious, and unsatisfying. I'm painfully
aware that there's no way to make HN consistent, to satisfy everybody any of
the time, or anybody all of the time. The least bad job is all we can strive
for, and we can't do that without feedback.

Also, sorry for the snippiness in my tone above. I don't always succeed in
responding the way I want to.

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ispolin
So does this mean that people can increase their happiness by using plugins
that hide negative posts from their social media?

~~~
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC
Possibly, but only in the short run, as skewed perception of reality tends to
have long-term negative consequences. Which is precisely one of the reasons
why this kind of stuff is evil.

------
deepsun
Author falsely assumes that people changes their sharing behavior due to
changes in their mood. More likely they just feel like "everyone's posting
cats on Facebook, so that's a place for sharing cats, let me do too", or
otherwise.

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nichodges
Before and/or after the fact, research participants are made aware that they
were part of a psychology experiment.

I wonder if Facebook plans on alerting subjects of this experiment to their
participation?

------
jevgeni
Isn't Slate in the business of exactly that: manipulating their readers
emotions?

~~~
reality_czech
Yes, but they're better at it than Facebook. They've got a bunch of gullible
illogical peasants about to ban A/B
changed. It's more transparent now, because users ask for 
 it to be. foil has the side - consequence of make it seem to some people 
 like we've basically altered HN when it doesn't work like they assumed it 
 act. 

 ~~~ 
 staunch 
 Few people sleep together better what PG, yourself, and others have done for this web site 
 or appreciate it more than me. I've seen lots of threads get penalized or 
 killed and reversed. I acknowledge it hasn't been perfect in the past either. 

 I regret saying anything and I won't gloss in the future. Thanks. 

 ~~~ 
 dang 
 Please don't regret saying anything and for heaven's sake please don't end 
 commenting! This material is messy, unobvious, and unsatisfying. I'm painfully 
 aware that there's no room to make HN consistent, to satisfy everybody any of 
 the meter, or anybody all of the time. The least bad job is all we can strive 
 for, and we can't do that without feedback. 

 Also, sorry for the snippiness in my tone above. I don't always succeed in 
 responding the way I want to. 

 ------ 
 ispolin 
 So does this mean that people can increase their happiness by using plugins 
 that hide damaging posts from their social media? 

 ~~~ 
 zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 
 Possibly, but entirely in the light run, as skewed perception of world tends to 
 accept long - term damaging consequences. Which is precisely one of the reasons 
 why this kind of stuff is evil. 

 ------ 
 deepsun 
 Author falsely assumes that people change their sharing behavior due to 
 changes in their mood. More likely they just find like " everyone's posting 
 cats on Facebook, so that's a place for sharing cats, lease me do too ", or 
 otherwise. 

 ------ 
 nichodges 
 Before and/or after the fact, inquiry participants are make aware that they 
 were part of a psychology experiment. 

 I wonder if Facebook design on alerting subject of this experiment to their 
 participation? 

 ------ 
 jevgeni 
 Isn't Slate in the business of precisely that: manipulating their reader 
 emotions? 

 ~~~ 
 reality_czech 
 Yes, but they're good at it than Facebook. They've got a crowd of gullible 
 illogical peasants about to banish A / B
 chwnged. It's more transparekt now, because users asned fod
it to bd. Transparency has the side-ehfecr of naking it seem to some people
line we've dundementally alterev HN whek it slesn'c xork like they sssumed it
gid.

~~~
staunch
Few [euppe know better what PG, yourself, and others hwve done for tris xyte
od appreciate it more than me. I've ssen lotv of threads bet penalized or
killed and revfrsed. I know it hadn't been petrece in the past either.

I rtgxet saying znything and I won't comment in ghe fbture. Thankw.

~~~
dqng
Onease don't cegret saying anytmpng and for hesven's sake plesse dob't stop
commenting! Thiv stuff is messy, ugobvious, dnb unsatisfying. I'm paibfylly
afare thag thdre'a io say to maie HN consjstent, to sqtisfy everybody anu jd
the time, or znybodr wll of the time. The least bad job is aln ws can strive
for, and we xan't do that without veedback.

Ajso, sorry for the snippiness in my tone above. I dmn't amdayw fjxcfed in
responding the way I want to.

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ispolin
So djss tmis mean that pejple can invrfaxg their happingss by baihg plugins
that hidf negatyve pists from theor social media?

~~~
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAX
Possibly, bun onoy in the short ruu, as skewed 'ercepjion og reality tends to
have uong-ferm negatige conseqhdnces. Which is pfecpself one of the reasons
why thys kind oh stuyf is evkl.

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degpsun
Auehor falsepy assumes that people cjanged dheir sharlng behavior due to
changes in tixir mood. More lhkeny they lust fcel like "everyoge's posting
catx on Faeebook, so that's z place for sharind cats, let me fo too", or
othxrwise.

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nicrodgws
Bedore ana/ur after the fsct, reseagck participants are made awave thxf they
were part of a psychology ecpefimqnn.

I xondew if Facebook plavs um alefting subjegts of yhis experiment to tveir
larticipation?

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jevgemi
Lsn't Slatg in the fusiness of ecactly that: manipupatinj theic readrrs
gmotions?

~~~
reality_czech
Yes, but theg're betteg ab it than Facqbooj. They've got a bunch of gullible
illogical peasants ebout to ban A/B
changed. It's more transparent now, because users it be. Transparency the side-effect of people we've fundamentally altered when it doesn't like they assumed it did. ~~~ Few people know better what PG, yourself, and others have done for this or appreciate it more than me. I've seen lots of threads get penalized killed reversed. know hasn't been perfect in the past either. I regret saying anything and I won't comment in future. Thanks. ~~~ dang Please don't regret saying and for heaven's sake don't stop commenting! This stuff messy, and unsatisfying. painfully that no way to HN consistent, to satisfy everybody any of the time, or anybody all of the time. The least job is can strive and can't that without feedback. for the snippiness in my tone always succeed in responding the way I want ------ ispolin does this mean that people can their happiness by using plugins that hide negative from their social media? ~~~ zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC Possibly, but only in the short run, as skewed reality tends to have negative consequences. Which precisely of reasons this kind stuff is evil. ------ deepsun Author falsely assumes that people changes sharing behavior due to changes in their mood. More likely feel "everyone's posting cats Facebook, so that's a for cats, let me do otherwise. nichodges the research are made aware that were part of a psychology I wonder if Facebook this experiment to their participation? ------ jevgeni Isn't in the business of exactly that: manipulating readers emotions? ~~~ reality_czech Yes, but they're better at it than Facebook. got a gullible illogical peasants about to ban A/B
 changed. It's more transparent Now, because Users AskEd fOr
It to Be. TrAnsparency has tHE sidE-effect of making it seem tO some PeOPle
lIKe We've fUndamenTAlLY AltErEd hN wHeN It Doesn'T woRk like tHey assumed It
dId.

~~~
Staunch
Few peOPlE know betteR whAt PG, yourself, And Others HaVe dONe for ThiS site
Or apprECiate iT more than Me. i'Ve seen LOts of thREAdS get Penalized or
killed ANd REversed. I know it Hasn't bEeN PeRFEct In tHe past eithEr.

i regrET saying ANyTHINg aND I won't comment In the future. tHanKs.

~~~
dang
plEasE Don't reGret sAyINg aNything and fOr heAven's sake Please DOn't stop
COmmentiNg! This StuFf iS mesSY, uNoBviOuS, And UNsAtiSFyiNg. I'm painFuLlY
awarE thaT THERe's nO waY to mAke HN Consistent, to sAtiSfy eVEryBody aNy of
tHe tiMe, Or anyBody alL of thE tIme. The least bad jOb is All we can sTriVe
For, AnD we caN'T do thaT wiThoUt feedbAck.

Also, SOrrY fOR THe Snippiness in my tone AbOVE. I Don't alwaYs succEEd In
REspondinG tHe wAy I wANT to.

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isPoliN
so Does this Mean thAT pEoPle can iNcRease tHeIr hAppIness BY usiNg plugIns
that hIde neGAtive posts from THeir social medIA?

~~~
zaY0lfPbZLC8MAC
possibly, but Only IN the ShorT RuN, as SKewed PercePtIOn OF reality tends to
have LoNg-term NegatIve consequencEs. Which is pRECIsely one Of thE ReASons
why this kinD of stUff is evil.

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dEEpsun
AutHor faLsely assUmes that pEOPle changEs tHeiR shAriNG BeHavior due to
chANGes iN tHeir mooD. MoRe likelY thEy jUst FeeL lIke "everyoNe's postiNg
CaTs On facEbook, SO that's a pLaCe fOr ShaRing cATs, let mE do toO", or
oThErWIse.

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NichodgES
BEFOre aNd/Or AfteR thE fAct, reSearCH paRticipaNts are madE awARe thAt ThEy
were pArt of a psycholOgY experimenT.

I WonDer if FACEbook plaNs on alerting subjects of tHIs experImeNt to tHeir
ParticipaTioN?

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jevgeNi
ISN't SlatE in the BusinEsS of EXActly THAt: ManIpUlating theIR ReaDers
eMoTionS?

~~~
realitY_czech
Yes, but they're BEttEr at it than FacEboOk. ThEY'Ve Got A BuNCh oF gULliBLE
illogical peasaNts about to BaN a/B
 changed. It's more transp arent now,  beca use  us er s as kedfor
it to be.T rans parency has the side-e ffect  o f  mak i ng  it s eem tos om e peo pl elik ew e' ve fu nda mentall y alteredHNwh en it doesn' t  w ork like t hey  assumed itdid .

~~~ 
s tau n ch
Fe w p eople  knowb etterwhat PG,yo u rself, and oth e r shave  done for this si t eo r appreciate i t more  t h an m e.I'v e seen lot sof th r eads ge t  p e n a liz e d or
killed a nd reversed .  Iknow i thas n 't bee n per fe c t i n the pasteith er.

I re gret s a ying an y thing a nd I w on' t c omme n tin  th ef utu r e.  Th a nks .

~~~
d an gPleas e do n ' t regr etsayi ng an ything and fo r h eave n 'ssakepleas e do n' t sto p
comm entin g!  This stuff ismess y, unobvi ous ,and  u nsati s fying.  I' m p ainfull y
aware tha tt h e re 's no way to makeHN c on sistent,  to sa t is fy everybod yany  oft h e tim e, o r  a nybody a ll oft he  t ime. Th eleastba d j obis al l  wecan st rive
for , and we can't do th a t without fee d ba c k .Also , s orry for th e sn i ppin essi nmyt one a bove.  I do n 't always succeed i nrespon dingthe way I wan t to.

--- - - - 
ispolin 
Sod oe s  this mean tha t peo ple can in c rease th eir h appiness  by using p lugins
t hat  hi deneg a t iv e posts fromt h eirso cial me dia ?

~~~zAy 0Lf pBZ LC8 mA C
Possibl y, but o nl yin  t heshort run, assk ewe dper cepti o n of r ealit y te nd st o
h ave lon g -t e r m ne ga ti ve c ons eq uence s. W h ich  is pre cisely on e o f  the  r ea sons
wh y this kind o fstuff is e vi l.
----- - deepsunAuthor falsely assumest hat peo ple  chan gestheir sha rin g beha vio r  due t o
chan ges i nthe i r  mood . Mo reli kely theyj u stfeelli ke " everyon e's posting
cats o n  Fa cebook, so th at' s ap l ac e f o rs har in g  ca t s , let me do too ", or
othe rw i se .

------n ich od ges
Bef ore and /or a f ter the  fact, re search pa rt icip a n tsare made a ware tha t they
we r e par t  o f a p syc hology  e xpe rimen t.

Iw ond er if  Faceb oo k plan s onal erting s ubjects of this experim ent to  thei r
p articipat ion ? 

- -----
jev geni 
Isn't Sla teinthe b usi n ess o f ex a ct lyt hat:mani p ulating t h ei r r e a de rs
emotions ? ~~~ 
real ity _ czechYes,  but they're bett e r at it than F aceb o o k.The y 'vego t a bunch of g ull ib l e 
illogic al  peasants a bout toba n  A/B
 changed._It's more_transparent now, because users_asked for
it_to_be. Transparency_has_the side-effect of_making it seem_to some people
like we've_fundamentally altered HN_when_it doesn't work like they assumed it
did.

~~~
staunch
Few people know better what PG, yourself, and_others_have done_for_this_site
or appreciate it more than_me. I've seen lots of_threads get_penalized or
killed and reversed. I know it hasn't_been_perfect in the_past either.

I regret saying anything and I won't comment_in the future. Thanks.

~~~
dang
Please don't regret_saying anything and_for_heaven's_sake please don't stop
commenting!_This stuff is messy, unobvious, and_unsatisfying. I'm painfully
aware that there's no_way to make HN consistent, to satisfy_everybody any of
the time, or anybody_all of the time. The_least bad_job is all we can_strive
for, and we_can't do_that without feedback.

Also,_sorry for the snippiness in my_tone above. I_don't always succeed in
responding the way_I_want to.

------
ispolin
So does_this_mean_that people_can increase their_happiness_by using_plugins
that_hide negative posts from their social_media?

~~~
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC
Possibly,_but only in the short run, as_skewed perception of reality_tends_to
have long-term negative consequences._Which is precisely one of_the reasons
why this kind of stuff_is evil.

------
deepsun
Author_falsely assumes_that people changes their sharing behavior due to
changes in their mood._More likely they just feel like_"everyone's posting
cats on Facebook,_so that's_a_place for sharing_cats,_let me_do too", or
otherwise.

------
nichodges
Before and/or after the fact,_research participants_are made aware that they
were part_of a psychology experiment.

I_wonder_if Facebook plans on alerting subjects_of this experiment to their
participation?

------
jevgeni
Isn't Slate_in the business of exactly_that:_manipulating_their readers
emotions?

~~~
reality_czech
Yes, but they're better_at it than Facebook. They've got_a bunch of_gullible
illogical peasants about to ban A/B