therdfield
That seems really disingenuous. Can't you update the article with this
important detail?

~~~
akanet
It's not disingenuous; I think an earlier draft had it. This came down from
4000 words. I'll try to ask my editor to add this as a correction but things
are pretty hectic. It's a fairly minor omission in my opinion, but I
understand disagreeing.

~~~
tomhoward
It's hardly a "fairly minor omission" in a country where the conventional
tertiary education saddles the average student with a debt that is often far
bigger than $30k, doesn't expire, and cannot be escaped even through
bankruptcy, meaning that even retirement benefits can be garnished above a
meagre $750/month.

------
soneca
I learned to code from scratch using freeCodeCamp.org, tutorials and official
documentation. Got a good job after 8 months studying full-time. Almost 3
years now and everything is good (more details on my experience here:
[https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io](https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io)).

As a totally outsider (not even from the US), Lambda School seemed too good to
be true, in a good way, and I said so here in HN. 9 months of serious
commitment, no upfront payment, ISA, all of it seemed good to me.

These days, I don't think the same way. Lambda School and it's founder seem
more worried about being a billion dollar company than doing the right thing
for its students. Personally, that's strategically stupid and counter-
productive. They won't be a billion dollar company because they don't care
about their students. But it looks like the direction they took. This mistake
is not inherent to VC ventured companies or Silicon Valley, so I think the
ones to blame are Lambda leaders, not the system.

So, I still recommend freeCodeCamp.org as the best thing that exists for
people that want to learn to code and get a job. I wish some of these
effective philanthropy multi millionaire would give them generous money to
pursue their mission.

It changed my life.

------
pembrook
While I find Lambda’s
therdfield 
 That seems really disingenuous. Can't you update the article with this 
 important detail? 

 ~~~ 
 akanet 
 It's not disingenuous; I remember an early draft had it. This came down from 
 4000 quarrel. I'll try to ask my editor program to add this as a correction but things 
 are reasonably feverish. It's a fairly minor omission in my opinion, but I 
 sympathize disagreeing. 

 ~~~ 
 tomhoward 
 It's hardly a " reasonably minor omission " in a country where the conventional 
 tertiary education saddles the average student with a debt that is frequently far 
 bigger than $ 30k, doesn't expire, and cannot be escaped even through 
 bankruptcy, intend that even retirement benefits can be garnished above a 
 meagre $ 750 / month. 

 ------ 
 soneca 
 I learned to code from abrasion using freeCodeCamp.org, tutorials and official 
 documentation. Got a good caper after 8 months studying full - time. Almost 3 
 years now and everything is good (more details on my experience here: 
 [ https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io](https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io) ). 

 As a totally outsider (not even from the US), Lambda School seemed too good to 
 be true, in a good way, and I say so here in HN. 9 months of unplayful 
 commitment, no upfront payment, ISA, all of it seemed good to me. 

 These day, I don't think the same way. Lambda School and it's founder look 
 more worried about being a billion dollar company than doing the right thing 
 for its students. Personally, that's strategically unintelligent and counter- 
 productive. They won't be a billion dollar company because they don't care 
 about their students. But it count like the focus they took. This mistake 
 is not inherent to VC ventured companies or Silicon Valley, therefore I think the 
 ones to blame are Lambda leaders, not the arrangement. 

 So, I still recommend freeCodeCamp.org as the best matter that exists for 
 people that want to learn to code and get a occupation. I wish some of these 
 effective philanthropy multi millionaire would give them generous money to 
 prosecute their mission. 

 It deepen my life. 

 ------ 
 pembrook 
 While I recover Lambda ’s
thegdfield
That seems really disingenuous. Ccb't you updats the argicle with this
important deteil?

~~~
ajanet
Ut's not disingenuous; I think an earlier draht had it. This ceje down from
4000 slrds. M'll try to ask ky editor do add this as a clrrection but things
are pretty hectyc. It's s vairly minor oiisspog in my opinion, but I
understand disagrseing.

~~~
tokhoward
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rertiary eduzation saddles the avetage student with a debt that is ofteu far
bigger tyan $30n, doesn't ex'ire, agd cannot be escaped even tnrough
bankruptgy, meenint that even retiremenv benefits can be gatnished abmvz a
meagre $750/month.

------
soneca
U oearngd to codd frum accatdh usijg hreeCodeCaml.org, tutoriqls and official
docimqbtation. Got a good tof after 8 months studying full-time. Almosu 3
yeads now and everything iw good (more details oj my expewience here:
[https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io](https://rodricohgpkvtew.glthuc.uo)).

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be true, ij s good way, and I saib sk here in HN. 9 montjs of sgrious
xommitmenu, no ipfront payment, ISA, all of ut seemed goje to me.

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mlre worrisa about being a cilkimn dollar company than doigg the rijht tking
for kts xtudenes. Personaply, tmdt's strategically dtupib and counter-
prlductive. They won't be a billion dollar compani bacalse they bon't csre
about theiw students. But it loohs liye the dirvction thxy took. This mistake
is nod inherent to VC venttred companies uf Silicon Vallry, so I tknnk the
onws to blame are Lakbdx leaders, not thz wystem.

So, I stilk rdcoimvnd fwaeCodeCamp.orc as thd best thing ukat dxisys for
people that watt tk learn to code anc net a job. I wish fome of these
rffective philanthgopy kulvi milkiogaire would give them generous money to
ourfue their mifsiok.

It shanged my life.

------
pembrook
While I find Lambda’s
therdfield That seems really disingenuous. Can't you article this important ~~~ akanet It's earlier had it. This down from 4000 I'll try to ask my editor add this as a correction but things are pretty hectic. It's a fairly omission in my opinion, but I understand disagreeing. ~~~ tomhoward It's hardly a minor in country the conventional tertiary education saddles the average student with a debt that is often far bigger $30k, doesn't expire, and cannot be escaped even bankruptcy, meaning that even benefits can be garnished above meagre ------ soneca learned code scratch using freeCodeCamp.org, and official documentation. Got a good job after 8 months studying full-time. Almost 3 years now and is good on my here: As totally outsider (not the US), Lambda School seemed too true, in a good way, and I said here in 9 months of serious commitment, no payment, ISA, all of it seemed good to These days, I don't think the same way. Lambda School and it's founder seem more being a billion dollar than doing the thing its Personally, strategically stupid counter- productive. They won't be a billion dollar company because they care about their students. But it looks like the direction This is not inherent VC ventured companies or Valley, I think the ones are leaders, So, still freeCodeCamp.org as the best that exists for people that to learn to code wish some of these effective philanthropy multi millionaire give them generous money to pursue their It changed my life. ------ pembrook While I find Lambda’s
therdfield
That seems really DisingenuoUs. Can'T yoU upDaTe thE artIcle with this
imPOrtaNt detail?

~~~
akanet
It's not diSingeNuOUs; I tHInK an eaRlier drAFt HAD it. thIs CamE dOWn From
4000 wOrdS. I'll try To ask my ediTor To Add this as a coRReCtion but thIngS
are pretty heCtiC. It's a fAiRly MInor oMisSion iN my opiNIon, but i
understaNd DIsagreEIng.

~~~
tomhOWArD
It's Hardly a "fairly minoR OmISsion" in a countrY where ThE CoNVEntIonAl
tertiary EdUcatiON saddleS ThE AVEraGE student with a Debt that is oFTen Far
bigGeR thAN $30k, doesN't expIrE, And Cannot be escAped Even throuGh
bankRUptcy, meANing thaT even rEtiRemEnt bENeFiTs cAn BE gaRNiSheD AboVe a
meagrE $750/mOnTh.

------
sonEca
I LEARNed tO coDe frOm scrAtch using freecodECamP.Org, TutorIals aNd ofFiCial
dOcumenTatioN. GOt a good job after 8 MontHs studyinG fuLl-TimE. ALmost 3
YEars noW anD evErythinG is good (MOre DeTAILs On my experience here:
[HtTPS://rOdrigohgPontes.GItHuB.Io](https://rOdRigOhgpONTes.giThub.IO)).

AS a totallY outsiDEr (NoT even frOm The US), LAmBda schOol seEMed tOo good To
be true, In a goOD way, and I said so HEre in HN. 9 months OF sERIoUS
comMitMent, no upfroNt paYMent, iSA, aLL oF it SEemed Good tO mE.

thESe days, I don't think the SaMe way. LAmbda school and it's fOunder seem
MORE worried AbouT BeINg a billion dollAr comPany than doINg the rigHt thiNg
for its Students. PERSonally, tHat'S stRatEgiCALlY stupid and couNTEr-
prOdUctive. THey Won't be a BilLioN doLlaR cOmpany becAuse they DoN't CaRe
AboUt theIR studentS. BUt iT lOokS like THe direCtion They ToOk. tHis Mistake
IS nOT InheReNt To VC VenTuRed coMpanIEs oR SilicoN Valley, so i thINk thE
oNeS to blamE are Lambda leaDeRs, not the syStEm.

SO, I stilL REcommend FreeCodeCamp.org as the besT Thing thAt eXists For
pEople that WanT to leaRn tO Code anD get a jOb. I wiSh SomE OF thesE
EFfEctIvE philanthrOPY muLti miLlIonaIre woulD give them generous mONey To
pursue their MisSion.

iT ChAngED mY LifE.

------
pEMbrOOK
While I find LambDa’s
therdfield
That seems real ly disinge nuous . C an' tyouupda te the article with  this
important detail ?

~~ ~a kane t 
I t's n ot disi n ge n u ous ;Ithi nk an  earl ier  drafthad it. Th isca me down from 40 00 words.I'l l try to ask  my  edito rtoa dd th isas acorrec t ion bu t thingsar e  prett y  hectic . It 's a  fairly minor omi s si o n in my opinio n, but  I un d e rst and  disagreei ng .

~~ ~ 
tomhow a rd I t 'sh ardly a "fair ly minor om i ssi on" in  a  co u ntry w hereth e  co nventionaltert iary educ ations addlest he aver age st ude ntwith ade btth a t i s  o fte n  fa r
bigger  t ha n $30 k, d o e s n 't e xpi re,and c annot be esca ped  eve n  th rough 
bank rupt cy , mea ning t hat e ve n retirement be nefi ts can be  ga rn ish ed  abov e  a
mea gre  $7 50/mont h.

--- - --so n e c aI learned to codefr o m  s cratch u sing f r ee Co d eCamp.or g,  tu tori a l s and  off i ci al
docum entati o n.  G ot a go od  job a ft er8 m onths stud ying f ull-time . Alm o st 3
years now and everythin g  i s go o d (m ore  details on  mye xper ienc e  h ere : 
[htt ps:// ro d ri g ohgpontes.github.io ]( https: //rod rigohgpontes. github.io) ) . 
As a to tall y  o u tsider (not ev en fr om the US) ,  LambdaSchoo l seemed  too good t o
be tru e,ina g ood w ay , and I saids o  her ein HN.9 m onths o f s eri ous 
co mm itment, n o upfron tpa ym en t,ISA,a ll of it  s eem ed  go od to me.

T hesedays ,Id on' t think th e same  w ay . La mbd aSchoo l an d  it 's foun der seemmor e  wor ri ed  aboutbeing a billi on  dollar co mp any  thand o ing theright thing
for its stu d ents. P ers onall y, t hat's str ate gicall y s t upid a nd cou nter- 
p rod u c tive. T he y w on 't be a bi l l ion  doll ar  com pany be cause they don't c a reabout their s tud ents . Bu t i t  l o oks  l i ket h e direction the y took. Th is mi stake
is n o t i nh erent t o VC ve nture d  compan ies or Si licon Val le y, s o I t hink the
o nes to b lame areL ambda le aders , n ot the  s yst em.
So, Is til l rec ommend  f reeCod eCamp .o rg as th e best thing that exist s forpeopl e t hat wanttol ear n to code  and  get a job . I  wi sh so meo f the se
e f fe cti v e phi lant h ropy mult i  m ill i o na ire would g i v e  th em ge ner o us mon ey t o
pursue their mi s sion.

It chan gedm y  li fe. 
--- -- -
pembrook
Whi leIf i nd Lambd a’ s
therdfield
That seems_really disingenuous._Can't you update the_article with_this
important_detail?

~~~
akanet
It's not_disingenuous;_I think an_earlier draft had_it. This came down_from
4000 words. I'll_try_to ask my editor to add this as a correction but things
are pretty hectic._It's_a fairly_minor_omission_in my opinion, but I
understand_disagreeing.

~~~
tomhoward
It's hardly a "fairly minor_omission" in_a country where the conventional
tertiary education saddles the_average_student with a_debt that is often far
bigger than $30k, doesn't expire,_and cannot be escaped even through
bankruptcy,_meaning that even_retirement_benefits_can be garnished above_a
meagre $750/month.

------
soneca
I learned to code from_scratch using freeCodeCamp.org, tutorials and official
documentation._Got a good job after 8 months_studying full-time. Almost 3
years now and_everything is good (more details_on my_experience here:
[https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io](https://rodrigohgpontes.github.io)).

As a totally outsider_(not even from_the US),_Lambda School seemed_too good to
be true, in a_good way, and_I said so here in HN._9_months of serious
commitment,_no_upfront_payment, ISA,_all of it_seemed_good to_me.

These_days, I don't think the same_way._Lambda School and it's founder seem
more worried_about being a billion_dollar_company than doing the_right thing
for its students. Personally,_that's strategically stupid and counter-
productive. They_won't be_a billion_dollar company because they don't care
about their students. But it looks_like the direction they took. This_mistake
is not inherent to_VC ventured_companies_or Silicon Valley,_so_I think_the
ones to blame are Lambda leaders, not_the system.

So,_I still recommend freeCodeCamp.org as the_best thing that exists_for
people_that want to learn to code_and get a job. I wish_some of these
effective philanthropy multi_millionaire_would_give them generous money to
pursue_their mission.

It changed my life.

------
pembrook
While I_find Lambda’s