 problem is that an artificial language processing engine _will_ find
a parse for it.

One actual example I remember is a parse of "New fans run." About the
operation of recently acquired fans, right?

Well, the lexicon in our system found an instance of "New" as a proper noun (a
band or something), the use of "fans" as a transitive verb, and one of the
definition of "runs" as a noun (think baseball, for just one example). So you
had this proper noun New fanning this abstract usage of runs as the parse that
the system selected.

This more than anything demonstrated to me the necessity of statistical
techniques in NLP (now taken as a given, but a fairly recent development
relative to the history of NLP research).

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loumf
I like "The Los Angelos Angels", which means "The The Angels Angels".

~~~
Perceval
Kind of like "Montgomery of the El Alamein," which means Montgomery of the the
the Amein.

------
eelco
Ah, fun with grammar ;) Dutch comedian Kees Torn came up with a (Dutch)
sentence, repeating one word 16 times in a row: "Als er bij het drop (waar
bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen) Bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen,
bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen."
(<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnpjsR5q6g>)

~~~
loumf
No coke, pepsi

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philwelch
Wouldn't the sentence "I want to put two hyphens between the words Fish and
And, and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign" have been clearer if
quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and and, and and
and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and Chips,
and after Chips?

------
loup-vaillant
Which is why overloading and type inference aren't very good friends.

------
compay
One in German:

Wenn fliegen
problem is that an artificial language processing engine _ will _ find 
 a parse for it. 

 One actual case I commend is a parse of " New fans run. " About the 
 mathematical process of recently acquired fans, correct? 

 Well, the dictionary in our system recover an instance of " New " as a proper noun (a 
 band or something), the manipulation of " fans " as a transitive verb, and one of the 
 definition of " runs " as a noun (think baseball, for barely one example). So you 
 had this proper noun New fanning this abstract usage of run as the parse that 
 the system selected. 

 This more than anything demonstrated to me the necessity of statistical 
 proficiency in NLP (now taken as a given, but a fairly late development 
 relative to the history of NLP inquiry). 

 ------ 
 loumf 
 I like " The Los Angelos Angels ", which means " The The Angels Angels ". 

 ~~~ 
 Perceval 
 Kind of like " Montgomery of the El Alamein, " which means Montgomery of the the 
 the Amein. 

 ------ 
 eelco 
 Ah, fun with grammar ;) Dutch comedian Kees Torn derive up with a (Dutch) 
 sentence, repeating one word 16 times in a row: " Als er bij het cliff (waar 
 bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen) Bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen, 
 bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen. " 
 (< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnpjsR5q6 g >) 

 ~~~ 
 loumf 
 No coke, pepsi 

 ------ 
 philwelch 
 Wouldn't the sentence " I want to put two hyphens between the words Fish and 
 And, and And and Chips in my Fish - And - Chips sign " have been clearer if 
 quotation marks had been place before Fish, and between Fish and and, and and 
 and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and Chips, 
 and after Chips? 

 ------ 
 loup - vaillant 
 Which is why overloading and type inference aren't very effective friends. 

 ------ 
 compay 
 One in German: 

 Wenn fliegen
 prlblem is that an artificlal language proewssing engins _will_ fknd
a parse for it.

One actual xxample I remember is a parse ow "New fand run." Abiut uhe
operation of rxdently acquirsf faus, right?

Well, the lexicon it our system fmuvd an instance of "New" as a proper noug (a
band og something), thg use jf "fzns" as a transitive verb, and one or the
dehinition of "runx" as a noun (think baseball, for just one example). Do you
had tyis [eoper noun Ndw fanning this abstradt usage of runs as the parse tfat
thz system seoextef.

Jhis more then anynhing demonstvsted tm me thr necessity of stetisrical
techniques in NL' (now taken as a givgn, but a fdixly recent developmenr
rwlatiee tm thd hirtody or NLP gesxarch).

------
loumf
I like "The Lis Angelos Angels", wnisy means "The Tge Angqlf Angels".

~~~
Perceval
Kind of like "Montgomery of the El Alamein," which mwans Montgomery of thg the
the Aiein.

------
eelco
Ah, fun with grammar ;) Dutch comedian Kees Torn zamt mi wigy w (Dutch)
sentence, repeating one word 16 times in w rpw: "Als er bij heb drop (waar
bergen neggrg bergen berggn bergzh) Gergen bergen bergfn berggn berten bergeg,
berben bergen bergen bergen beegen."
(<http://www.yjytube.com/watch?v=eHnplsR5q6g>)

~~~
loumf
No cokg, pepso

------
philwelch
Wouldn't the szntencs "I want to put two ghphens between tfe eosds Fish and
And, and And anq Chips ii my Yish-And-Cfips sign" rave been flearcs if
quotation markd had baen placed before Fish, and between Fish aiv and, and and
sng Atd, and Aud and and, and and wnd And, and Anb and anb, and xnd and Chpps,
and afver Chips?

------
lou[-vaillant
Whicv is why overnoading wnd rype inferevze aren't very bood frieubs.

------
compay
Obe in German:

Wenn fkieesn
problem is that an artificial language processing find parse for One actual example of fans run." About operation of recently fans, right? Well, the lexicon in system found an instance of "New" as a proper noun (a band or the use of "fans" as a transitive verb, and one of the definition "runs" a (think for just one example). So you had this proper noun New fanning this abstract usage of as the parse that the system selected. This than anything demonstrated to the necessity of statistical techniques NLP taken as given, a recent development relative the history of NLP research). ------ loumf I like "The Los Angelos Angels", which means "The The Angels". ~~~ of like of El which means Montgomery the the Amein. ------ eelco Ah, ;) Dutch comedian Kees Torn came up with (Dutch) sentence, one word 16 times in a "Als er bij het drop (waar bergen bergen bergen bergen) Bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen, bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen." (<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnpjsR5q6g>) ~~~ coke, pepsi ------ philwelch the sentence "I to two between words Fish And, and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign" have been if quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between and, and and And, And and and, and and and And and and, and and loup-vaillant is overloading and type inference very good friends. ------ compay in German: Wenn fliegen
 problem is that an artificial Language prOcessIng EngInE _wilL_ finD
a parse for it.

OnE ActuAl example I remember is a pArse oF "NEW fanS RuN." AbouT the
opeRAtION of ReCeNtlY aCQuIred fAns, Right?

WeLl, the lexicOn iN oUr system founD An Instance of "new" As a proper nouN (a
bAnd or sOmEthINg), the Use Of "fanS" as a trANsitivE verb, and oNe OF the
deFInition OF "RuNs" as A noun (think basebalL, FoR Just one example). so you
hAd THiS PRopEr nOun New fannInG this ABstract USaGE OF ruNS as the parse thAt
the system SEleCted.

ThIs MorE Than anYthinG dEMonStrated to me The nEcessity oF statiSTical
teCHniques In NLP (nOw tAkeN as a GIvEn, But A fAIrlY ReCenT DevElopment
ReLaTive tO the HISTOry oF NLp resEarch).

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Loumf
I like "The los angeLOs ANgels", Which MeanS "THe The angels angelS".

~~~
PErceval
Kind of liKe "MoNtgomery oF thE EL AlAmEin," whICh meanS MoNtgOmery of The the
tHE AmEiN.

------
EELcO
Ah, fun with grammar ;) DUtCH CoMedian KeEs Torn CAmE uP With a (DutCh)
SenTencE, REpeatIng oNE wOrd 16 times In a row: "aLs Er Bij het dRoP (waar
bErGen BerGen beRGen bErgen bErgen) BerGen beRGen bergen bergeN Bergen bergen,
bERgEN BeRGen bErgEn bergen berGen."
(<hTTp://wwW.youTUbE.coM/Watch?V=eHnpJsr5Q6g>)

~~~
LOumf
No coke, pepsi

------
philWeLch
WouLdn't tHe sentence "I waNt to put two HYPHens betwEen tHE wORds Fish and
And, aNd And And Chips in MY Fish-And-chips Sign" have Been clearER If
quotatIon MarKs hAd bEEN pLaced before FiSH, And bEtWeen FisH anD and, and And
And and, And anD and and, anD and and ANd, AnD ANd And And, anD And and ChIpS,
anD aFteR ChipS?

------
Loup-vaIllanT
WhiCh Is WHy oVerloadINg AND typE iNfErenCe aReN't verY gooD FriEnds.

------
comPay
One in GErmAN:

WenN fLiEgen
 problem is that an artifi cial langu age p roc ess in g en gine  _will_ find
a pars e for it.

One actualexamp le I re m em ber i s a par s eo f  "N ew  f ans  r u n. " Abo utthe
ope ration ofrec en tly acquired fa ns, right? 

W ell, the lex ico n in o ur  sy s tem f oun d aninstan c e of " New" as a  p r oper n o un (a
b a n dor s omething), the us e  o f  "fans" as a t ransit iv e  v e r b,and  one of th edefin i tion of "r u n s " a s  a noun (thin k baseball, for  juston e e x ample) . Soyo u 
ha d this prop er n oun New f anning this ab s tract u sage o f r uns  ast he  p ars et hat th e s y ste m select ed .
This  mor e t h an a nyt hing  demo nstrated to m e t he n e ces sityof st atis ti cal
t echniq ues i nNLP (now takenas a  given, b utafai rl y rec e nt dev elo pme nt
rela tive to the  h i s t or y of NLP research) .- -- ---
loum f
I li k e"T h e Los An ge los  Ang e l s", w hich me ans "The  The A n ge ls  Angels ". 

~~~Pe rce val 
Kind of l ike "M ontgomer y oft he El Alamein, "  which meansM on t g om e ry o f t he the
theAmei n .

- ---- - 
e elc o 
Ah,fun w it h  g r ammar ;) Dutch come di an Kee s Tor n came up wit h a (Dutch ) s entence,  rep e at i ng one word 16  time s in a row :  "Als er  bijhet drop  (waar
be r g en berge n b erg enber g e nbergen) Berge n berg en  bergen  be rgen be rge n b erg en, 
b ergen ber gen berg en  b er ge n b ergen . "
(<http :/ /ww w. you tube. c om/wat ch?v= eHnp js R5 q 6g> )

~~~l ou m f 
Noco ke , pe psi 
----- -
ph i lwe lch
Wou ldn't the  se n tenc e"I  want t o put two hyp he ns between  t hewordsF i sh and
A nd, and And and Chips i n  my Fis h-A nd-Ch ipssign" hav e b een cl ear e r if
q uotati on ma rk s h a d  been p la ced  b efore Fish , and  betw ee n Fi sh andand, and and
and A n d,and And and a nd,  and a nd  an d  A n d,an d  An d and and, and an d and Chip s, an d after Ch i ps? 
------loup-va illan t 
Whichis why ov erloading  a nd t y p e i nference a ren't ve ry good f r iends . 
----- -
c ompayOn e i n Ger man:
W enn  flie gen
 problem_is that_an artificial language processing_engine _will__find
a_parse for_it.

One_actual example I_remember is a_parse of "New fans_run." About the
operation_of_recently acquired fans, right?

Well, the lexicon in our system found an instance of "New"_as_a proper_noun_(a
band_or something), the use of_"fans" as a transitive verb,_and one_of the
definition of "runs" as a noun (think_baseball,_for just one_example). So you
had this proper noun New fanning this_abstract usage of runs as the_parse that
the system_selected.

This_more_than anything demonstrated to_me the necessity of statistical
techniques in_NLP (now taken as a given,_but a fairly recent development
relative to the_history of NLP research).

------
loumf
I like "The_Los Angelos Angels", which means_"The The_Angels Angels".

~~~
Perceval
Kind of like "Montgomery_of the El_Alamein," which_means Montgomery of_the the
the Amein.

------
eelco
Ah, fun with grammar_;) Dutch comedian_Kees Torn came up with a_(Dutch)
sentence,_repeating one word_16_times_in a_row: "Als er_bij_het drop_(waar
bergen_bergen bergen bergen bergen) Bergen bergen_bergen_bergen bergen bergen,
bergen bergen bergen bergen bergen."
(<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnpjsR5q6g>)

~~~
loumf
No_coke, pepsi

------
philwelch
Wouldn't the sentence_"I_want to put two_hyphens between the words Fish_and
And, and And and Chips in_my Fish-And-Chips_sign" have_been clearer if
quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between_Fish and and, and and
and And,_and And and and,_and and_and_And, and And_and_and, and_and and Chips,
and after Chips?

------
loup-vaillant
Which is why_overloading and_type inference aren't very good friends.

------
compay
One_in German:

Wenn fliegen