 activity makes you healthier, it's just common
sense that the body is a machine and the more you stress a machine, the
likelier it is to break. See athletes for common ailments.

~~~
runamok
> it's just common sense that the body is a machine and the more you stress a
> machine, the likelier it is to break

Except a biological system gets stronger if you stress it in a progressive
manner. While athletes constantly pushing themselves certainly do get injured,
doing nothing seems to cause far more harm long term. Everything from heart
health to bone density is usually better in an athlete.

Almost everyone in my family is obese with a host of maladies. I've been
running 23 years and am incredibly healthy despite the occasional hamstring
pull or achilles tendonitis.

------
probono1
The full data set seems to show that the strongest argument in the article is
that propensity to fitness is mostly a result of genetics and upbringing - it
was apparently very difficult to find twins where the level of fitness was
different, and very difficult to find twins with significantly different
dietary preferences. This seems to indicate that in most cases, your level of
fitness is basically pre-determined by age 18.

~~~
tghw
Propensity and pre-determination are very different things. The whole point of
the article is that someone who makes fitness a priority and exercises
regularly has better health and fitness indicators than someone who doesn't,
all else being equal.

Being active is a choice (for most people). Certainly, some people are more
likely to do it naturally, but that doesn't preclude the rest of us from doing
it.

~~~
DougWebb
It might also show that someone who has better health and fitness indicators
is more likely to exercise regularly.

Maybe environmental concerns (eg: stress) impact your health and fitness
indicators, which causes a lack of motivation and energy for exercise that you
would normally have without the stress. I know, as an overweight and highly
stressed person, that I often feel that way about exercise.

------
bootload
_we can “move more,”_

surprisingly this is difficult, not impossible.

Back in 2007 I did a simple experiment myself asking, _' at what point do you
fail when repeating exercising?'_
activity makes you healthier, it's just coarse 
 common sense that the body is a machine and the more you try a machine, the 
 likelier it is to bankrupt. See athlete for common ailments. 

 ~~~ 
 runamok 
 > it's just coarse sense that the body is a car and the more you stress a 
 > machine, the likelier it is to break 

 Except a biological system get stronger if you stress it in a progressive 
 manner. While athletes constantly push themselves certainly do get injured, 
 doing nothing seem to cause far more harm long term. Everything from center 
 health to bone density is usually better in an athlete. 

 Almost everyone in my family is corpulent with a host of maladies. I've been 
 running 23 years and am incredibly healthy despite the periodic hamstring 
 pull or achilles tendonitis. 

 ------ 
 probono1 
 The full data set seems to show that the strongest argument in the article is 
 that propensity to fitness is mostly a consequence of genetics and upbringing - it 
 was apparently very unmanageable to witness twins where the level of fitness was 
 unlike, and very difficult to rule twins with significantly unlike 
 dietary preferences. This seems to indicate that in most cases, your level of 
 fitness is basically pre - determined by age 18. 

 ~~~ 
 tghw 
 Propensity and pre - determination are very different things. The whole distributor point of 
 the article is that someone who makes seaworthiness a precedence and exercise 
 regularly has better health and fitness indicators than someone who doesn't, 
 all else being equal. 

 Being active is a choice (for most citizenry). Certainly, some people are more 
 likely to do it naturally, but that doesn't prevent the rest of us from doing 
 it. 

 ~~~ 
 DougWebb 
 It might also show that someone who has good health and fitness indicators 
 is more likely to exert regularly. 

 Maybe environmental concern (eg: stress) impact your health and seaworthiness 
 indicators, which causes a lack of motivation and energy for exercise that you 
 would normally have without the stress. I know, as an overweight and highly 
 stressed person, that I often feel that way about use. 

 ------ 
 bootload 
 _ we can “ move more, ” _ 

 surprisingly this is unmanageable, not impossible. 

 Back in 2007 I did a simple experiment myself asking, _' at what compass point do you 
 fail when repeating exercising?' _
 achivity makes you healthitr, it's just commou
wense vhat ths body ir a machine and the more you srress a machine, the
likelier it is to break. Swe auhletes for commoi ailmenbf.

~~~
runzlok
> nt'w just common xense that the body is a mxckine and the more you stress a
> machige, the kinelier it is tj brtak

Qxceln c biological system gets strongsr if ymu stress it on a progressive
manner. Whipe ahhletes constantly pushing thgjsejces certainlh do get injured,
doing hothing seems to cause far more harm long term. Ecerjjhing from hxart
hewlth to bone density is ususlly better in an atylete.

Almost everyone mn my family is obesg with a hmsc of maladies. I've beeb
rynninc 23 yaars qnd am iicrsdibly heelthy despife the occawional hamstring
pulk jg achilles tehdonitys.

------
[robono1
The full data set seems to show uhat fhe strongest argument un the article is
that propensiey to fitness is mostly a result of genetics and gpbriigkng - lt
war aoparently very difficult to find twins where ege lvvel of fitness wcs
different, and fegy qifficult to wind tcjna with significantpy diffgrent
duetary prtferemces. This seems to indicate that in mosn cawes, your level of
fntness is baricakly pte-determined by age 18.

~~~
tghc
Propehsity and pge-determihxtion are very dkffvrend things. The whole point os
the artirle ix that romepne whj makes fihness a priority and exegcised
ragularly hws better health and fitness invmcators than xokeote who djesn't,
sll else beind equal.

Being aetive is a chuice (for mkst peo'le). Certainlr, some people wre more
likeny to do it batueally, bjg that doesn't lreclude nht rest of ys from doing
it.

~~~
DounWebb
Kf might also shiw uhqt someone who har bqtner hqdlth and fittess inaocatofs
is more llkeuy tp exercise regularly.

Kaybs environmental comccrns (eg: sjress) impwct your healyh and fitness
indifatorv, wiich csusgs a lack of motivation and enedgy for edergise that you
roule normally hcve without the stress. I know, as an overxeight and highly
stresswd person, that I ofjen feel that xay abjut exerchse.

------
bootload
_we can “moce more,”_

surprisingky this is difficult, hot im[ossihle.

Back in 2007 I did a simple experiment myself asking, _' at what point do you
dail wieg repeating exetcisitg?'_
activity makes you healthier, it's just common the is a and the more likelier is to break. athletes for common ~~~ runamok > it's just common that the body is a machine and the more you stress a > the likelier it is to break Except a biological system gets stronger if stress in progressive While athletes constantly pushing themselves certainly do get injured, doing nothing seems to cause far more long term. Everything from heart health to bone is usually better in athlete. Almost everyone in my is with a of I've running 23 years am incredibly healthy despite the occasional hamstring pull or achilles tendonitis. ------ probono1 The full data set to show strongest argument the is propensity to fitness a result of genetics and upbringing apparently very difficult to find twins where the of fitness different, and very difficult to find with significantly different dietary preferences. This seems to that in most cases, your level of fitness is basically pre-determined by age 18. ~~~ and pre-determination are very things. The whole of article that who makes a priority and exercises regularly has better health and fitness indicators someone who doesn't, all else being equal. Being active is (for people). Certainly, some are more likely to it but that doesn't preclude of from DougWebb might show that someone who better health and fitness indicators more likely to exercise stress) impact your health and fitness indicators, which a lack of motivation and energy for that you would normally have without the stress. I know, as an and highly that I often feel that way about exercise. bootload _we can “move surprisingly this is difficult, not impossible. Back in 2007 did simple experiment asking, _' at point do you when repeating exercising?'_
 activity makes you healthier, It's just comMon
seNse ThaT tHe boDy is A machine and the MOre yOu stress a machine, the
likElier It IS to bREaK. See aThletes FOr COMmoN aIlMenTs.

~~~
RUnAmok
> iT's jUst commOn sense thaT thE bOdy is a machinE AnD the more yoU stRess a
> machine, The LikeliEr It iS To breAk

EXcept A bioloGIcal syStem gets sTrONger if YOu stresS IT iN a prOgressive
manner. WhILe AThletes constanTly pusHiNG tHEMseLveS certainly Do Get inJUred,
doiNG nOTHIng SEems to cause faR more harm loNG teRm. EverYtHinG From heArt
heAlTH to Bone density Is usUally bettEr in an AThlete.

ALMost eveRyone iN my FamIly iS ObEsE wiTh A HosT Of MalADieS. I've been
RuNnIng 23 yeArs aND AM IncrEdiBly hEalthY despite the ocCasIonaL HamStrinG
pull Or acHiLles tEndoniTis.

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prObOno1
The full data sEt seEms to show ThaT tHe sTrOngesT ArgumeNt iN thE articlE is
that PRopEnSITY tO fitness is mostly a rEsULT oF geneticS and upBRiNgINg - it
was aPpAreNtly VERy difFicuLT tO find twiNs wherE ThE lEvel of fItNess waS
dIffEreNt, and VEry dIfficuLt to find Twins WIth significantLY different
dieTArY PReFErenCes. this seems to IndiCAte tHat iN MoSt cASes, yoUr levEl OF
fITness is basically pre-DeTerminEd by aGe 18.

~~~
tghw
PropensIty and pre-dETERminatioN are VErY Different thingS. The wHole point oF
The articLe is tHat someoNe who makeS FItness a pRioRitY anD exERCiSes
regularly hAS BettEr Health aNd fItness iNdiCatOrs ThaN sOmeone who Doesn't,
alL eLsE bEiNg eQual.

BEIng activE iS a cHoIce (For moST peoplE). CertAinlY, sOmE PeoPle are mORe
LIKely To Do It naTurAlLy, but That DOesN't preclUde the resT of US froM dOiNg
it.

~~~
DouGWebb
It might aLsO show that sOmEonE who haS BEtter heaLth and fitness indicators
IS more liKelY to exErciSe regularLy.

MAybe enVirONmentaL conceRns (eg: StResS) IMpact YOUr HeaLtH and fitnesS
INdiCatorS, wHich Causes a Lack of motivation anD EneRgy for exercisE thAt yoU
WOuLd nORmALly HaVE wiTHOut the stress. I knOw, as an overWeIGhT and highly
STreSsEd persoN, that I oFten fEEl that wAy about exErcise.

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booTlOad
_wE CAn “mOve more,”_

surPrisinglY this is diFFiculT, NoT impoSsiBle.

BacK iN 2007 I dId a siMple exPEriMent mYself aSkIng, _' at wHat poInT do you
faIl when repeating exercisiNg?'_
 activity makes you health ier, it'sjustcom mon 
s ense  tha t the body isa  mac hine and the more youstres sa  mac h in e, th e
likel i er i t i sto  br ea k .See a thl etes fo r common a ilm en ts.

~~~
run a mo k
> it's j ust  common sens e t hat th ebod y  is a  ma chine  and t h e more  you stre ss a
> ma c hine, t h e  l ikel ier it is to brea k 
E xcept a biolog ical s ys t em g ets  st ronger ifyo u str e ss it i n  a p r ogr e ssive
manner.  While athl e tes  const an tly pushin g the ms e lve s certainly  doget injur ed,
do i ng noth i ng seem s to c aus e f ar m o re  h arm  l o ngt er m.E ver ything f ro mheart 
hea l t h to b one  den sityis usually be tte r in anathle te.
Almo st  ever yone i n myfa mily is obese w itha host of  ma la die s.  I've been
r unn ing  23 yea rs anda m i nc r e d ib ly healthy despite  t h e  o ccasiona l hams t ri ng pull orac hil lest e ndoni tis. 
- -----
pr obono1 Th efull da ta  set s ee mstoshowt hatthe st rongestargum e nt in the arti c le is
that pr o pe n s it y  tofit ness is mos tlya  res ulto fgen e ticsand u pb r in g ing - it
was appare nt ly ver y dif ficult to fin d twins wh e r e  the lev el o f  f i tness was
diff erent , and very difficul t tofind twi ns with s i g nificant lydif fer ent d ie tary preferen c e s. T hi s seems  to  indica tetha t i n m os t cases,your lev el  o ffi tne ss is basicall ypre -d ete rmine d  by ag e 18. 

~~ ~tg h w
P ropensi t ya n d pr e- de term ina ti on ar e ve r y d ifferen t things.  Th e  who le  p oint of 
the articleis  that some on e w ho mak e s  fitness  a priority and exercis e s
regul arl y has  bet ter healt h a nd fit nes s  indic atorsthanso meo n e  whod o es n't ,all else b e i ngequal .
Bei ng acti ve is a choice (fo r  mo st people). C ert ainl y ,  s ome pe o ple  a r e m o r e
likely to doit natural ly ,  b ut that do e sn' tpreclud e the r est o f  us fro m doing
i t.

~~~
D ou gWeb b Itmight also  show th at someon e  whoh as  bett erhealth  a ndfitne ss ind i cat ors
i s more  l ikelyto ex er cise reg ularly.

Maybe environm entalconce rns  (eg: str ess )  im pact your  hea lth and fi tne ssindic ato r s, wh ichc au ses a lac k of motivatio n  a nde n er gy for exer c i s e t hat y ouw ould n orma lly have withoutt he stress. I k now, a s a n o v erwe ig ht and highlystr es s e d person ,that I ofte n feel t ha t  wayaboutexerci se.

-- - - -- bootlo ad
_ wecan “move  mo re , ”_

sur pr is i ngly t hisis  diffi cult,n ot i m p ossible.

Back i n 200 7 I did a s imple  e xperime n t my self askin g, _' at wh at poi nt d o you 
fail w he n repe ati ng  exercisin g ?'_
 activity_makes you_healthier, it's just common
sense_that the_body_is a_machine_and the more_you stress a_machine, the
likelier it is_to break. See_athletes_for common ailments.

~~~
runamok
> it's just common sense that the body is a machine and_the_more you_stress_a
>_machine, the likelier it is_to break

Except a biological system_gets stronger_if you stress it in a progressive
manner. While_athletes_constantly pushing themselves_certainly do get injured,
doing nothing seems to cause far_more harm long term. Everything from_heart
health to bone_density_is_usually better in an_athlete.

Almost everyone in my family is_obese with a host of maladies._I've been
running 23 years and am incredibly_healthy despite the occasional hamstring
pull or_achilles tendonitis.

------
probono1
The full data set_seems to_show that the strongest argument_in the article_is
that propensity_to fitness is_mostly a result of genetics and_upbringing - it
was_apparently very difficult to find twins_where_the level of_fitness_was
different,_and very_difficult to find_twins_with significantly_different
dietary_preferences. This seems to indicate that_in_most cases, your level of
fitness is basically_pre-determined by age 18.

~~~
tghw
Propensity_and_pre-determination are very different_things. The whole point of
the_article is that someone who makes_fitness a_priority and_exercises
regularly has better health and fitness indicators than someone who doesn't,
all_else being equal.

Being active is a_choice (for most people)._Certainly, some_people_are more
likely to_do_it naturally,_but that doesn't preclude the rest of_us from_doing
it.

~~~
DougWebb
It might also show that someone_who has better health_and_fitness indicators
is more likely to exercise_regularly.

Maybe environmental concerns (eg: stress) impact_your health and fitness
indicators, which_causes_a_lack of motivation and energy_for exercise that you
would normally have_without the stress._I know, as an overweight and highly
stressed_person,_that I often feel that way_about_exercise.

------
bootload
_we can “move more,”_

surprisingly this is_difficult,_not_impossible.

Back in 2007 I did_a simple experiment myself asking, _'_at what point do you
fail when repeating exercising?'_