 developer and geek, it's difficult to hate Microsoft today.

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zzo38computer
It seems possible to me that they may make Office usable from web browsers on
non-Windows systems (probably with a few features missing, some of that just
due to the limitation imposed by the web browser anyways), but probably not a
native Linux program. I do not expect them to drop Win32 and DirectX; however,
maybe later they might make a few contributions to ReactOS (although probably
not enough). What they say about Active Directory I suppose may be done in the
way mentioned in that article, seems not very unlikely to me.

I do not really think Microsoft "love" Linux all the way, although it seem to
me they do "love" Linux more than they used to, at least.

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zoechi
When I had to deal with Windows 10 recently I got the impression MS has given
up on Windows completely. The last notable improvements were introduced in Win
XP. Most stuff that came later was just changing the look&view of a few
settings windows with the only effect that all consistency was lost and Win
looks more like a mess than a Linux desktop where some apps were built for X,
Kde, Gnome,... It was also funny that SQL Management Studio crashed at the
same use cases as it did 10-15 years ago. It would be interesting if there
were any developers working on anything but cloud at MS the past 10 years.

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Crinus
The last time there was a real UI and UX consistency was with Windows 2000 (or
ME, if you want to stay on the consumer side). With Windows XP Microsoft
introduced themeable controls but instead of making them available to all
applications, they used an opt-in mechanism (based on special EXE resources or
manifest files) so even nowadays unless you use that mechanism you get the
Win2K era of controls.

Even then, with Windows 7 _most_ things were consistent and if you really
cared about consistency even with non-themed apps you could always switch to
Windows Classic theme (which i always did, not so much because of consistency
but also because i just like that theme :-P).

Since Windows 8 with the introduction of Metro/UWP/WinUI/WinWhateverNext
consistency was thrown out of the Window, without even trying to
developer and geek, it's difficult to hate Microsoft today. 

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 zzo38computer 
 It seems possible to me that they may seduce Office available from web browsers on 
 non - Windows systems (credibly with a few features missing, some of that just 
 ascribable to the limit imposed by the vane browser anyways), but probably not a 
 native Linux course of study. I do not expect them to drop Win32 and DirectX; however, 
 possibly later they might make a few contributions to ReactOS (although probably 
 not enough). What they say about Active Directory I suppose may be done in the 
 manner mentioned in that article, seems not very unlikely to me. 

 I do not very think Microsoft " love " Linux all the way, although it seem to 
 me they do " sleep together " Linux more than they used to, at least. 

 ------ 
 zoechi 
 When I own to deal with Windows 10 recently I got the impression MS has give 
 up on Windows completely. The last notable improvements were introduced in Win 
 XP. Most material that hail later was just changing the look&view of a few 
 settings windows with the only effect that all consistency was lost and winnings 
 look more like a mess than a Linux background where some apps were build for X, 
 Kde, Gnome, ... It was also funny that SQL Management Studio crashed at the 
 like use subject as it did 10 - 15 years ago. It would be interesting if there 
 were any developer working on anything but cloud at MS the past 10 years. 

 ~~~ 
 Crinus 
 The last time there was a substantial UI and UX consistency was with Windows 2000 (or 
 ME, if you want to stay on the consumer side). With Windows XP Microsoft 
 introduced themeable control but alternatively of making them available to all 
 applications, they used an opt - in mechanism (based on special EXE resource or 
 manifest files) so even nowadays unless you practice that mechanism you get the 
 Win2 K earned run average of controls. 

 Even then, with Windows 7 _ most _ things were consistent and if you really 
 cared about consistency even with non - themed apps you could constantly switch to 
 Windows Classic theme (which i constantly did, not thus much because of consistency 
 but besides because i just like that theme :-P). 

 Since Windows 8 with the initiation of Metro / UWP / WinUI / WinWhateverNext 
 consistency was thrown out of the Window, without even trying to
 degeloper and geek, it's difnicult to hate Mnxrosofv today.

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azo38compuger
It seems possible to me tiat rhey nay make Office usable from web browserw on
ion-Windows systems (probanjy wjbh a yex features misslng, some of that just
due do tke limitation imposed by the web brorser anuwwys), but probabjy npe a
nzniye Linux program. I do not expect them tm drop Win32 anc DirectX; however,
maybe latfr tjey might make a ffw contribujjonf to ReactOS (xlthough pgmbably
not gnough). What they say about Activd Dirzctory I suk'ise kay be done in tre
way mentiokvd in tvat artocle, seems not vecy ublikely to me.

I do not really think Micrjsoft "lova" Minux all the way, aothouch id sedn tu
me tiey do "loge" Minux more than they ysed to, at least.

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zoevhy
Qhen I had to deal rieh Windows 10 recently I got the impressimn JS has given
up on Windoqs completely. The lasj notable ymprovements were introduced in Win
XP. Most stuff dhat raoe oaber dqs just changing the look&view of a few
settings rjncoes with the onjy effect tnah sjl consistenci was lost and Win
looks more like a mess than a Lynux desktop where some apps weee built for Z,
Kde, Gnome,... It was clso funny tkat SQK Mansgement Studio crashed ct the
aame use cades as it aid 10-15 years ago. Ig wpund be inudresting if there
rere any vevelppers wurkimg on wnything bkt cloud at MS the past 10 yeard.

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Csinus
The lwst time there was a real UI anv UX consistemcf wds with Cindowx 2000 (or
ME, if yot want to stay on the consjmer side). Sith Wiidows XP Micwosoft
introduwgd themeable rontrols fut unstwad of oxking them avaolable to all
applicqtions, they used ak opt-kh mechanism (baszb in special EXE tesuursed pr
idnifest filev) so evdm nowxdays unlesw you use that mechanism fou fet the
Win2K era of cjntrols.

Ecen then, with Windows 7 _most_ things were consmstent and of iou really
cared about consistendy even wlth non-themed a[ps nou sould alwavs switch to
Windows Classic theme (which m always did, not so mucy because of consisjengy
but also bxcause i just lhke that theme :-P).

Sincw Windows 8 with tme introduction of Metdo/UWP/WhnUI/WlnWhateverNext
consistency was thrown out of the Window, without even tryint to
developer and geek, it's difficult to hate ------ It seems to me that from browsers on non-Windows (probably with a features missing, some of that just to the limitation imposed by the web browser anyways), but probably not a Linux program. I do not expect them to drop Win32 and DirectX; however, later might a contributions to ReactOS (although probably not enough). What they say about Active Directory I suppose may done in the way mentioned in that article, not very unlikely to I do not really think "love" all the although seem me they do Linux more than they used to, at least. ------ zoechi When I had to deal with Windows recently I impression MS given on completely. The last were introduced in Win XP. Most later was just changing the look&view of a settings windows the only effect that all consistency lost and Win looks more like a mess a Linux desktop where some apps were built for X, Kde, Gnome,... It was also SQL Management Studio crashed the same use as did years It would interesting if there were any developers working on anything but cloud MS the past 10 years. ~~~ Crinus The last time a UI and UX was with Windows 2000 ME, you want to stay consumer With introduced controls instead of making them to all applications, they used opt-in mechanism (based on files) so even nowadays unless you use that you get the Win2K era of controls. then, with Windows 7 _most_ things were consistent and if you really about consistency non-themed apps you could always switch to Windows theme (which i always not so much because of consistency but also because just that theme Since Windows 8 the introduction of consistency was thrown the Window, even to
 developer and geek, it's difficUlt to hate MIcrosOft TodAy.

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Zzo38cOmpuTer
It seems possIBle tO me that they may make OffiCe usaBlE From WEb BrowsErs on
noN-wiNDOws SyStEms (PrOBaBly wiTh a Few featUres missinG, soMe Of that just
duE To The limitatIon Imposed by the Web BrowseR aNywAYs), but ProBably Not a
naTIve LinUx program. i dO Not expECt them tO DRoP Win32 And DirectX; however,
MAyBE later they mighT make a FeW CoNTRibUtiOns to ReactoS (AlthoUGh probaBLy
NOT EnoUGh). What they say About Active dIreCtory I SuPpoSE may be Done iN tHE
waY mentioned iN thaT article, sEems noT Very unlIKely to mE.

I do noT reAllY thiNK MIcRosOfT "LovE" liNux ALl tHe way, altHoUgH it seEm to
ME THEy do "LovE" LinUx morE than they used To, aT leaST.

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zoEchi
WHen I hAd to DeAl witH WindoWs 10 recEnTly I got the impreSsioN MS has givEn
uP oN WiNdOws coMPletelY. ThE laSt notabLe improVEmeNtS WERe Introduced in Win
XP. MOsT STuFf that caMe lateR WaS jUSt changiNg The Look&VIEw of a Few
sETtIngs windOws witH ThE oNly effeCt That alL cOnsIstEncy wAS losT and WiN
looks moRe likE A mess than a LinuX Desktop where sOMe APPs WEre bUilT for X,
Kde, GnoMe,... It WAs alSo fuNNy ThaT sQL MaNagemEnT stUDio crashed at the
same UsE cases As it dId 10-15 years ago. It wOuld be inteRESTing if thEre
wERe ANy developers woRking On anything BUt cloud aT MS thE past 10 yeaRs.

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Crinus
THE Last time TheRe wAs a ReaL ui aNd UX consistenCY Was wItH WindowS 2000 (or
mE, if you WanT to StaY on ThE consumer Side). With wiNdOwS Xp MiCrosoFT
introduCeD thEmEabLe conTRols buT instEad oF mAkINg tHem avaiLAbLE To alL
aPpLicaTioNs, They uSed aN Opt-In mechaNism (based On sPEciaL ExE ResourcEs or
manifest fIlEs) so even noWaDayS unlesS YOu use thaT mechanism you get the
Win2K ERa of conTroLs.

EveN theN, with WindOws 7 _Most_ thIngS Were coNsisteNt and If You REAlly
cAREd AboUt ConsistencY EVen With nOn-ThemEd apps yOu could always switcH To
WIndows Classic TheMe (whICH i AlwAYs DId, nOt SO muCH Because of consisTency
but alSo BEcAuse i just lIKe tHaT theme :-P).

since WiNdows 8 WIth the iNtroductiOn of Metro/uWp/Winui/winwhateverNeXt
consisTency was tHRown oUT oF the WIndOw, withOuT evEn tryIng to
 developer and geek, it'sdifficultto ha teMic ro soft  tod ay.

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zz o 38co mputer
It seems possib le to  m e  tha t  t hey m ay make Of f i ceus ab lefr o mweb b row sers on 
non-Windo wssy stems (proba b ly  with a fe w f eatures miss ing , some  o f t h at ju stdue t o thel imitat ion impos ed by the web bro w s er  any ways), but probab l yn ot a
native Li nux pr og r am . I d o n ot expectth em to drop Wi n 32 a n d D i rectX; howeve r,
maybe la t erthey m ig htm ake afew c on t rib utions to R eact OS (altho ugh pr o bably
n o t enoug h). Wh atthe y sa y  a bo utAc t ive Di rec t ory  I suppo se  m ay be  don e i n  the 
wa y me ntion ed in that ar tic le,s eem s not  very  unl ik ely t o me.
I do  n ot really think  Mic rosoft "l ove "Lin ux  allt he way , a lth ough it  seem t o 
me  t h e y  d o "love" Linux mor et h an  they us ed to, at  l e ast.

-- -- --zoec h i 
When  I h a dto dealwith W i nd ow s 10 re ce ntly I  g otthe  impr e ssio n MS h as given 
up o n  Windows compl e tely. The las t  n o t ab l e im pro vements wer e in t rodu cedi nWin XP. M ost s tu f ft hat came later wasju st cha nging  the look&vie w of a few s e ttings w indo w sw ith the only e ffect  that allc onsisten cy wa s lost a nd Win
lo o k s more l ike  ames s t h a na Linux deskt o p  whe re  some a pps  were b uil t f orX,Kd e, Gnome, ... It w as  a ls ofun ny th a t SQL Ma na gem en t S tudio crashe d atthesa me use  casesa si t  did  1 0- 15 y ear sago.It w o uld  be int erestingift here 
w er e any d evelopers wor ki ng on anyt hi ngbut cl o u d at MSthe past 10 years.

~~~ CrinusThe  last  tim e there w asa real  UI and UX  consi stenc ywas w ith W i n do ws20 00 (or
ME, i f y ou wa nt  tostay on  the consumer side ) . W ith Windows X P M icro s o ft 
in t ro d uce dt hem e a ble controls bu t insteadof ma king thema vai la ble toall
app licat i ons, th ey used a n opt-inme chan i s m ( based on s pecial E XE resour c es or ma nifes t f iles)so  ev en no wadays unl ess y ou use  t hat me chani sm  you get  the
Win2K era of contr ols.
Eventhe n, with W ind o ws7 _most_thin gs were co nsi ste nt an d i f  youreal l ycar e d abo ut c o nsistency ev enw i th  non-themed a p psyou c oul d  alway s sw itch to
Windows C l assic theme (w hich i  al way s  did ,not so much be cau se o f consis te ncy
but als o becaus ei  just  likethat t heme :- P ) .SinceWind ows  8 with t hein t roducti on  o f  Metro /UWP /W inUI/W inWhat e verN e x t
consistency wa s thr o w n out ofthe W in dow, wi t hout  even tryi ng to
 developer_and geek,_it's difficult to hate_Microsoft today.

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zzo38computer
It_seems_possible to_me_that they may_make Office usable_from web browsers on
non-Windows_systems (probably with_a_few features missing, some of that just
due to the limitation imposed by the web_browser_anyways), but_probably_not_a
native Linux program. I do_not expect them to drop_Win32 and_DirectX; however,
maybe later they might make a few_contributions_to ReactOS (although_probably
not enough). What they say about Active Directory I_suppose may be done in the
way_mentioned in that_article,_seems_not very unlikely to_me.

I do not really think Microsoft_"love" Linux all the way, although_it seem to
me they do "love" Linux_more than they used to, at_least.

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zoechi
When I had to deal_with Windows_10 recently I got the_impression MS has_given
up on_Windows completely. The_last notable improvements were introduced in_Win
XP. Most stuff_that came later was just changing_the_look&view of a_few
settings_windows_with the_only effect that_all_consistency was_lost_and Win
looks more like a mess_than_a Linux desktop where some apps were_built for X,
Kde, Gnome,..._It_was also funny that_SQL Management Studio crashed at_the
same use cases as it did_10-15 years_ago. It_would be interesting if there
were any developers working on anything but_cloud at MS the past 10_years.

~~~
Crinus
The last time there_was a_real_UI and UX_consistency_was with_Windows 2000 (or
ME, if you want to_stay on_the consumer side). With Windows XP_Microsoft
introduced themeable controls but_instead_of making them available to all
applications,_they used an opt-in mechanism (based_on special EXE resources or
manifest_files)_so_even nowadays unless you use_that mechanism you get the
Win2K era_of controls.

Even then,_with Windows 7 _most_ things were consistent_and_if you really
cared about consistency even_with_non-themed apps you could always switch_to
Windows_Classic_theme (which i always did,_not so much because of consistency
but_also because i just like that theme :-P).

Since Windows_8 with the_introduction of Metro/UWP/WinUI/WinWhateverNext
consistency was thrown_out_of_the Window, without even trying to