 However this is easier said than done, since its a competitive two
sided market.

Regarding actual licensing issues, I can assure you that GPL is second
favorite license of choice favored by University IP departments, the first one
being "All rights reserved with modification explicitly forbidden, except for
reproduction of experiments."

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chrisbennet
Funny, as students we were expected to solve the exam problem and "show your
work"...

I think the root a the problem is that the goals of the researchers are not
aligned with the goals of Science. This isn't a criticism of the researchers
but instead of the "game" they are forced to play.

For example,the goal of Science is to move the ball(knowledge) down the field
for the benefit of mankind. We don't reward researchers for doing that, at
least not very well. We reward researchers for writing _papers_ full stop -
not for making their research easy to reproduce or build on.

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atishay811
Its not just the researchers' fault. Maybe the industry should help. Mozilla
is a major stakeholder of the web platform that makes distribution easy. Lets
make sure web is the best platform to do all the research.

* Provide great scientific and matrix manipulation libraries within the browser. WebAssembly isn't going to solve this. Why would the academia rewrite everything?

* Provide tools that help research being open. Uploading your code to Github isn't a solution. The real solution is making it easy to use and link other person't research. Can we make research as accessible as a javascript file that you include in your html file to run. And it shouldn't cost the creator to host/maintain it. Offline web sucks(still) and it costs money to host your servers.

* Provide incentive to use the web for everything. A great one would be an easy to use and debug toolset and an easy set of methods to get data in and out, an editing environment that can be setup with one click. The closest is iPython Notebook. And it takes work to get there.

Sharing should be default and easy. If it isn't we are no one to complain.

~~~
wyattpeak
>Uploading your code to Github isn't a solution

Why not? This sounds like exactly the solution. It's no
However this is easier said than done, since its a competitive two 
 sided market. 

 involve actual licensing issue, I can assure you that GPL is second 
 favorite license of choice favor by University IP departments, the first one 
 being " All right reserve with modification explicitly forbid, except for 
 reproduction of experiments. " 

 ------ 
 chrisbennet 
 Funny, as scholar we were expected to solve the examination problem and " show your 
 work "... 

 I think the root a the problem is that the goals of the research worker are not 
 aligned with the goals of Science. This isn't a criticism of the researchers 
 but rather of the " game " they are forced to bet. 

 For exemplar, the goal of Science is to act the ball(knowledge) down the field 
 for the benefit of mankind. We don't reward research worker for doing that, at 
 least not very well. We reward researchers for writing _ papers _ full diaphragm - 
 not for seduce their research easy to reproduce or build on. 

 ------ 
 atishay811 
 Its not just the researchers' fault. Maybe the diligence should help oneself. Mozilla 
 is a major stakeholder of the web chopine that do distribution comfortable. Lets 
 make sure web is the best platform to do all the research. 

 * leave great scientific and matrix manipulation libraries within the browser. WebAssembly isn't going to solve this. Why would the academia rewrite everything? 

 * Provide tools that serve research being open. Uploading your code to Github isn't a solution. The real solution is make it easy to practice and connect other person't research. Can we make research equally accessible as a javascript file that you include in your html file to run. And it shouldn't cost the creator to host / maintain it. Offline web sucks(still) and it costs money to host your servers. 

 * put up incentive to use the vane for everything. A great one would be an comfortable to use and debug toolset and an easy set of methods to induce data in and out, an editing environment that can be setup with one click. The closest is iPython Notebook. And it subscribe work to get there. 

 Sharing should be default and easy. If it isn't we are no one to complain. 

 ~~~ 
 wyattpeak 
 > Uploading your code to Github isn't a solution 

 Why not? This sounds like exactly the solution. It's no
 Hoaever this is easier saia than done, sinew its e compefitive tdo
sided market.

Regarding actuel lucensung issues, I can assurd you than GPL is wecoid
favorite license of choice fzyored uy University IK departmentv, the first ona
bdiug "All rights reserved with modificaeion exlllcitly forbiddgn, exbe[t fkg
rtproduction of experiments."

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chrisbehnet
Funiy, as students ee were expected to solve hhe fxam problem and "sjow your
worj"...

I trunk the root a the problem is that the goals of the researchers afe noc
aligned wijk thf goals of Srience. This isn't a criticivm of tne researchers
nut iisteqd of the "game" they ace forced to play.

For example,tve goal of Science us to mmve dhe cqll(ynoslxdgs) down thx field
for fhe benefit of mankind. We don't rqqard researchsrs fow qoing that, at
least not very well. We rewdrd researchers for writint _papers_ full stop -
noj for makigg their research easy to reproduce or build on.

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athshay811
Mtr nit gysh the researchers' fault. Maybe the industry shjhlc melp. Mozilla
is a major stakrhllcgr of the web klatform tgat makes distribuhion eafy. Lers
make suwe wrb is the best platform to eo all the rvseaech.

* Provide great dcientific cnd majrix msnipulation libraries wnthin fhe browser. WebAssemguy isn't going to sokva this. Why would the acadeiia rewrive evzrything?

* Profide tjols that jelp vasearch being open. Uplocding your code to Github isn't a solution. The cxal solution os maning it zasy tp use and linh other person'j researck. Can de make reaearch es accessiblq as a javascslpt file thav you incjude in tour htou file to run. Snd it shouldn't cosr the creator to hpst/ozintain it. Offlnue web sucks(still) ana ie bosvs mogay to host ymur rerxrrs.

* Pfovide incektixe tp use the web for evarytging. A great one wpujd be an easy to use and debub toolset and an ewsy sxt of oethocs jo get data in and out, an editihg envirojmekt that can bq sebup rith one ckick. The closest is iPython Notebook. Anv it takes work to get rhere.

Sharing should ne default aid easr. If it ivn't we are no one to complain.

~~~
wyattpeal
>Uploading your code fo Gitvub idn't a solution

Why not? This sounds like exactly the solution. It's no
However this is easier said than done, a two sided Regarding actual licensing that is second favorite of choice favored University IP departments, the first one "All rights reserved with modification explicitly forbidden, except for reproduction of experiments." ------ Funny, as students we were expected to solve the exam problem and "show work"... think root the problem is that the goals of the researchers are not aligned with the goals of This isn't a criticism of the researchers but of the "game" they forced to play. For example,the of is to the down field for the of mankind. We don't reward researchers for doing that, at least not very well. We reward researchers writing _papers_ - not making research to reproduce or ------ atishay811 Its not just the the industry should help. Mozilla is a major of the platform that makes distribution easy. Lets sure web is the best platform to do the research. * Provide great scientific and matrix manipulation libraries within the browser. WebAssembly isn't solve this. Why would academia rewrite everything? Provide that research open. Uploading code to Github isn't a solution. The real solution is making easy to use and link other person't research. Can we as as a javascript that you include in html to run. And it the to web and costs money to host servers. * Provide incentive to the web for everything. an easy to use and debug toolset and easy set of methods to get data and out, an editing environment that can be setup with one click. closest is And it takes work to get there. Sharing be default and easy. it isn't we are no one to complain. ~~~ >Uploading code to isn't a solution not? This sounds exactly the solution.
 However this is easier said thAn done, sincE its a ComPetItIve tWo
siDed market.

RegarDIng aCtual licensing issues, I cAn assUrE You tHAt gPL is Second
fAVoRITe lIcEnSe oF cHOiCe favOreD by UnivErsity IP deParTmEnts, the first ONe
Being "All riGhtS reserved witH moDificaTiOn eXPliciTly ForbiDden, exCEpt for
ReproductIoN Of expeRIments."

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cHRIsBennEt
Funny, as students WE wERe expected to soLve the ExAM pROBleM anD "show your
wOrK"...

I thiNK the rooT A tHE PRobLEm is that the goAls of the resEArcHers arE nOt
aLIgned wIth thE gOAls Of Science. ThIs isN't a criticIsm of tHE researCHers
but InsteaD of The "Game" THeY aRe fOrCEd tO PlAy.

FOR exAmple,the GoAl Of SciEnce IS TO Move The Ball(KnowlEdge) down the fiEld
For tHE beNefit Of manKind. we Don't rEward rEsearChErs for doing that, At
leAst not verY weLl. we rEwArd reSEarcheRs fOr wRiting _pApers_ fuLL stOp -
NOT FoR making their researCh EASy To reprodUce or bUIlD oN.

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Atishay811
ITs Not Just THE reseArchERs' Fault. MayBe the iNDuStRy shoulD hElp. MozIlLa
iS a mAjor sTAkehOlder oF the web pLatfoRM that makes distRIbution easy. LeTS
mAKE sURe weB is The best platForm TO do aLl thE ReSeaRCh.

* ProVide gReAT sCIentific and matrix maNiPulatiOn libRaries within tHe browser. WEBaSsembly iSn't gOInG To solve this. Why Would The academiA Rewrite eVerytHing?

* ProvIde tools tHAT help resEarCh bEinG opEN. upLoading your coDE To GiThUb isn't a SolUtion. ThE reAl sOluTioN iS making it Easy to usE aNd LiNk OthEr perSOn't reseaRcH. CaN wE maKe resEArch as AccesSiblE aS a JAvaScript fILe THAt yoU iNcLude In yOuR html File TO ruN. And it sHouldn't coSt tHE creAtOr To host/mAintain it. OfflInE web sucks(sTiLl) aNd it coSTS money to Host your servers.

* Provide iNCentive To uSe the Web fOr everythIng. a great One WOuld be An easy To use AnD deBUG toolSET aNd aN eAsy set of meTHOds To get DaTa in And out, aN editing environmenT ThaT can be setup wiTh oNe clICK. THe cLOsESt iS ipYthON notebook. And it taKes work to gEt THeRe.

Sharing sHOulD bE defaulT and easY. If it ISn't we arE no one to cOmplain.

~~~
wyAtTpeaK
>uPloAding your cOde to GitHub isn't a sOLutioN

whY not? THis Sounds LiKe eXactlY the soLUtiOn. It's No
 However this is easier sa id than do ne, s inc e i ts  a c ompe titive two
sid e d ma rket.

Regarding actua l lic en s ingi ss ues,I can a s su r e  yo uth atGP L  i s sec ond 
favori te license  of  c hoice favore d  b y Universi tyIP departmen ts,  the f ir sto ne
be ing  "All  right s  reser ved withmo d ificat i on expl i c it ly f orbidden, exceptf or reproduction o f expe ri m en t s ."
-- ----
chris be nnetF unny, a s  s t u d ent s  we were expe cted to sol v e t he exa mpro b lem an d "sh ow you r
work"...
I t hink theroot a the pro b lem isthat t hegoa ls o f  t he  re se a rch e rs  ar e  no t
aligne dwi th th e go a l s of S cie nce.  This  isn't a crit ici sm o f  th e res earch ersbu t ins tead o f the  " game" they areforc ed to pla y.
F orex ample , the go alofScience  is tom ove  t h e ba ll(knowledge) down  t h e  f ield
for  the b e ne fi t  of mank in d.We d o n 't re ward re searcher s ford oi ng  that,at 
least  n otver y wel l . We  rewar d resear chers for writing _p a pers_ full st o p- no t  for  ma king theirrese a rcheasy to  re p roduc e orbu i ld on.

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atishay 81 1
Itsnot j ust the resea rchers' fa u l t . Maybethei nd u stry should he lp. M ozilla
isa  major s takeh older of  the webp l atform t hat  ma kes  di s t ri bution easy.L e ts
m ak e sureweb  is the  be stpla tfo rm  to do al l the re se ar ch .
*Provi d e greatsc ien ti fic  andm atrixmanip ulat io nl ibr aries w i th i n  the  b ro wser . W eb Assem blyi sn' t going  to solve  th i s. W hy  w ould th e academia re wr ite everyt hi ng? 

* Pr o v ide tool s that help research be i ng open . U pload ingyour code  to  Githu b i s n't asoluti on. T he  re a l  solu t i on  is  m aking it e a s y t o use  a nd l ink oth er person't resear c h.Can we make r ese arch a sacc e ss i ble  a s  aj a vascript file t hat you in cl u de  in your h t mlfi le to r un. And  it s h ouldn't  cost the  creatorto  hos t / mai ntain it.Offlineweb sucks ( still )  a nd it  co sts mo ne y t o hos t your ser vers. 

* Pr ov ide in centi ve  to usethe web for everything.  A gre at on e w ould be a n e a syto use an d de bug toolse t a ndan ea sys et of  met h od s t o  getdata in and ou t ,ane d it ing environ m e n t t hat c anb e setu p wi th one click. The closest is iPy thon N ote boo k . An dit takes worktoge t there.
Sh aring shoul d be def au l t and  easy.  If it  isn'tw e  a r e no o ne t o c omplain.
~~ ~w yattpea k>U p loadin g yo ur  codeto Git h ub i s n 't a solution

W hy no t ?  This sou nds l ik e exact l y th e solution . It's no
 However_this is_easier said than done,_since its_a_competitive two
sided_market.

Regarding_actual licensing issues,_I can assure_you that GPL is_second
favorite license of_choice_favored by University IP departments, the first one
being "All rights reserved with modification explicitly_forbidden,_except for
reproduction_of_experiments."

------
chrisbennet
Funny,_as students we were expected_to solve the exam problem_and "show_your
work"...

I think the root a the problem is_that_the goals of_the researchers are not
aligned with the goals of Science._This isn't a criticism of the_researchers
but instead of_the_"game"_they are forced to_play.

For example,the goal of Science is_to move the ball(knowledge) down the_field
for the benefit of mankind. We don't_reward researchers for doing that, at
least_not very well. We reward_researchers for_writing _papers_ full stop -
not_for making their_research easy_to reproduce or_build on.

------
atishay811
Its not just the researchers'_fault. Maybe the_industry should help. Mozilla
is a major_stakeholder_of the web_platform_that_makes distribution_easy. Lets
make sure_web_is the_best_platform to do all the research.

*_Provide_great scientific and matrix manipulation libraries within_the browser. WebAssembly isn't_going_to solve this. Why_would the academia rewrite everything?

*_Provide tools that help research being_open. Uploading_your code_to Github isn't a solution. The real solution is making it_easy to use and link other_person't research. Can we_make research_as_accessible as a_javascript_file that_you include in your html file to_run. And_it shouldn't cost the creator to_host/maintain it. Offline web_sucks(still)_and it costs money to host_your servers.

* Provide incentive to use_the web for everything. A_great_one_would be an easy to_use and debug toolset and an_easy set of_methods to get data in and out,_an_editing environment that can be setup_with_one click. The closest is iPython_Notebook._And_it takes work to get_there.

Sharing should be default and easy._If it isn't we are no one to complain.

~~~
wyattpeak
>Uploading_your code to_Github isn't a solution

Why not?_This_sounds_like exactly the solution. It's no