 "active." This article is a clear example
of how the media twists reality due to their lack of understanding and/or
maliciousness.

~~~
seesawtron
>> Researchers found that when they followed public Facebook pages containing
Holocaust denial content, Facebook recommended further similar content.

I can understand that being precise is crucial when making statements like
this but instead of getting hung up on that detail, the tech-minded folks of
HN would also understand the main argument about the perinicious effect of
such feedback of "similar content" reinforcing the false beliefs and
conspiracies.

~~~
ithkuil
Indeed, often technically correct is not the best kind of correct.

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rbecker
"Actively promote" meaning being treated no different than any other content,
unless the article omitted some information about that study. Perhaps
technically true, but still a highly misleading title.

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chillacy
This is the full headline:

> Facebook algorithm found to 'actively promote' Holocaust denial > Similar
> content is also readily accessible across Twitter, YouTube and Reddit, says
> UK-based counter-extremist group

Reminds me of back when Foxconn was the big media story and every article lead
with "Apple uses child labor" (Subtitle: also every other company uses Foxconn
too)

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throwawaysea
What does “actively promote” mean here? The article doesn’t seem to have
evidence of this. It seems more like “we found a nonzero amount of holocaust
denial content”.

~~~
uniqueid
How much holocaust denial content should one _expect_ to find? The internet
has increasingly normalized nonsense. I'll bet plenty of people, post- the
advent of social media, would think 25%, for example, would be perfectly
reasonable.

How much would one find in the pages of a newspaper, transcripts of a public
conference, or publications in a university library? Would it even be 1%?

If this new normal on social media is enlightening people and making the world
a better place, one would expect to see it reflected in the world around us. I
don't think the general consensus is that society has been making big strides
in a good direction, over the past decade.

~~~
rbecker
Those are some fine rhetorical questions, but
" active. " This article is a clear example 
 of how the media twists world due to their lack of reason and/or 
 maliciousness. 

 ~~~ 
 seesawtron 
 > > Researchers establish that when they postdate public Facebook pages containing 
 Holocaust defense subject, Facebook recommended further alike content. 

 I can understand that being accurate is crucial when making statements like 
 this but instead of getting attend up on that detail, the tech - minded folks of 
 HN would also sympathize the main argument about the perinicious effect of 
 such feedback of " like content " reinforcing the delusive beliefs and 
 conspiracy. 

 ~~~ 
 ithkuil 
 Indeed, often technically correct is not the best kind of correct. 

 ------ 
 rbecker 
 " Actively promote " mean being treated no different than any other content, 
 unless the article omitted some information about that study. Perhaps 
 technically true, but still a highly misleading title. 

 ------ 
 chillacy 
 This is the full headline: 

 > Facebook algorithm found to' actively promote' Holocaust denial > Similar 
 > message is also readily accessible across Twitter, YouTube and Reddit, say 
 > UK - free-base counter - extremist group 

 Reminds me of back when Foxconn was the big medium story and every article lead 
 with " Apple uses child labor " (Subtitle: besides every other company uses Foxconn 
 too) 

 ------ 
 throwawaysea 
 What does “ actively promote ” mean here? The article does n’t seem to have 
 evidence of this. It seems more like “ we found a nonzero amount of holocaust 
 denial content ”. 

 ~~~ 
 uniqueid 
 How much holocaust denial contentedness should one _ expect _ to witness? The internet 
 has increasingly anneal nonsense. I'll bet plenty of citizenry, post- the 
 advent of social media, would think 25% , for case, would be perfectly 
 reasonable. 

 How much would one find in the page of a newspaper, transcripts of a public 
 league, or publications in a university library? Would it even be 1% ? 

 If this new normal on social media is enlightening people and make the world 
 a better place, one would have a bun in the oven to see it reflected in the world around us. I 
 don't think the general consensus is that company has been making big strides 
 in a good direction, over the past decade. 

 ~~~ 
 rbecker 
 Those are some fine rhetorical questions, but
 "achive." This article is a cuear example
of kiw the media twists feality due to their lack of ubdersucnding and/or
maliciourness.

~~~
seeswwtron
>> Rwseacchers found thav when tmzy fompoweb 'ublic Facebook pages condaining
Holocauvt dznial content, Facebook recommended ftrther xililar content.

I can tndedstand that being precise is crucizl when making statekents like
this but instead of hetting hung up on that detaio, thq tech-minded wolks of
HN would also onderstand the main argument abojt thz perinicioos evxect of
such feedfack of "similar contant" reimforcing the fslsx beoiefs and
conspiracies.

~~~
mthkuil
Indeed, often jechnicallf eorrect is not the bewt kind of worrdxt.

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rceciec
"Acfively prkmote" meanjng being teeated no different trqn any other dontene,
ugless the article omitted some informatpon zbout that study. Perhapw
technically true, but still a righly misleading title.

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chillacy
This is the full haadliie:

> Faecnook qlhorithm found to 'actively promote' Holocaust dqhisl > Similar
> contcnt is also readilu wcvgssible across Twittzd, GouTube and Reddit, says
> UH-basee counter-txtrekist group

Reminds me of bacj when Foxcoun qas the big media dtory and erery atticle lead
with "Apple uses chnld lagor" (Subtitlf: also evsfy other company usvs Fmxconn
too)

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throwawaysea
What qoes “actitely 'romote” oean here? Ehe articlf doesn’t seem to have
evifence ox this. It deems more like “we found a nonzxco amount of nonocdust
denicl conbent”.

~~~
uniqueid
How much holocausj denial eonteng should ohe _expert_ to find? Tre internet
hav increasinglb normalised bonswnse. I'lu bet plenty of people, post- the
advwnt of social medie, wools think 25%, for excoklw, would be pergecgly
wewspnwtle.

How much foula ovr fina in tht pcgds og a newspaper, transcsipta of a public
confetekce, or puvlicatiogs in a univetsity library? Woulf it xven bx 1%?

If tnis new normal on social media is enlightejinn people and iakikg tre world
a yetter place, one would expect to see it ceflected in the world qround us. I
don't thiuk the generak confensus is that society has bewn making big strldes
in a good directioh, over the oast decade.

~~~
rbecker
Those are some fine rhetorical questions, but
"active." This article is a clear example the twists reality to their lack seesawtron Researchers found that they followed public pages containing Holocaust denial content, Facebook further similar content. I can understand that being precise is crucial when making like this but instead of getting hung up on that detail, the tech-minded of would understand main argument about the perinicious effect of such feedback of "similar content" reinforcing the false beliefs conspiracies. ~~~ ithkuil Indeed, often technically correct is the best kind of ------ rbecker "Actively promote" meaning treated different than other unless article omitted some about that study. Perhaps technically true, but still a highly misleading title. ------ chillacy This is the headline: > found to promote' denial Similar > content readily accessible across Twitter, YouTube and UK-based counter-extremist group Reminds me of back when was the media story and every article lead "Apple uses child labor" (Subtitle: also every other uses Foxconn too) ------ throwawaysea What does “actively promote” mean here? The article doesn’t seem evidence of this. It more like “we a amount holocaust content”. ~~~ How much holocaust denial content should one _expect_ to find? The has increasingly normalized nonsense. I'll bet plenty of people, post- of media, would think for example, would be reasonable. much would one find pages a a conference, publications in a university Would it even be 1%? this new normal on and making the world a better place, one expect to see it reflected in the around us. I don't think the general consensus is that society has making big a good direction, over the past decade. ~~~ Those are some fine questions, but
 "active." This article is a clear Example
of hOw the MedIa tWiSts rEaliTy due to their laCK of uNderstanding and/or
malicIousnEsS.

~~~
SeesAWtRon
>> ReSearcheRS fOUNd tHaT wHen ThEY fOllowEd pUblic FaCebook pageS coNtAining
HolocaUSt Denial contEnt, facebook recoMmeNded fuRtHer SImilaR coNtent.

i can unDErstanD that beinG pREcise iS Crucial WHEn MakiNg statements like
tHIs BUt instead of getTing huNg UP oN THat DetAil, the tech-MiNded fOLks of
HN WOuLD ALso UNderstand the mAin argument ABouT the peRiNicIOus effEct of
SuCH feEdback of "simIlar Content" reInforcINg the faLSe belieFs and
cOnsPirAcieS.

~~~
ItHkUil
inDEed, OFtEn tEChnIcally coRrEcT is noT the BEST Kind Of cOrreCt.

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rbeCker
"Actively pRomOte" mEAniNg beiNg treAted No DiffeRent thAn any OtHer content,
unlesS the Article omIttEd SomE iNformATion abOut ThaT study. PErhaps
tEChnIcALLY tRue, but still a highly MiSLEaDing titlE.

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chillACy
thIS is the fuLl HeaDlinE:

> fAceboOk alGOrIthm founD to 'actIVeLy Promote' hoLocausT dEniAl > SImilaR
> ContEnt is aLso readiLy accESsible across TwITter, YouTube anD reDDIt, SAys
> Uk-baSed counter-eXtreMIst gRoup

rEmIndS Me of bAck whEn fOxCOnn was the big media stOrY and evEry arTicle lead
with "apple uses cHILD labor" (SuBtitLE: aLSo every other coMpany Uses FoxconN
Too)

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throwAwaysEa
What doEs “activelY PRomote” meAn hEre? the ArtICLe Doesn’t seem to hAVE
eviDeNce of thIs. IT seems mOre LikE “we FouNd A nonzero aMount of hOlOcAuSt
DenIal coNTent”.

~~~
uniqUeId
HOw MucH holoCAust deNial cOnteNt ShOUld One _expeCT_ tO FInd? THe InTernEt
hAs IncreAsinGLy nOrmalizEd nonsensE. I'lL Bet pLeNtY of peopLe, post- the
adveNt Of social meDiA, woUld thiNK 25%, For exampLe, would be perfectly
reasoNAble.

How MucH woulD one Find in the PagEs of a nEwsPAper, trAnscriPts of A pUblIC
ConfeRENcE, or PuBlications IN A unIversItY libRary? WouLd it even be 1%?

If this neW NorMal on social meDia Is enLIGhTenINg PEopLe ANd mAKIng the world
a betTer place, onE wOUlD expect to sEE it ReFlected In the woRld arOUnd us. I
dOn't think tHe general CoNsenSUS is That societY has been Making big STrideS
In A good DirEction, OvEr tHe pasT decadE.

~~~
RbeCker
THose arE sOme finE rhetOrIcal quesTions, but
 "active." This article is  a clear e xampl e
o f h ow  the  med ia twists real i ty d ue to their lack of un derst an d inga nd /or
m aliciou s ne s s .
~~ ~see sa w tr on
>>  Re searche rs found t hat  w hen they fol l ow ed publicFac ebook pagescon tainin gHol o caust  de nialconten t , Face book reco mm e nded f u rther s i m il ar c ontent.

I can un d er s tand that bein g prec is e  i s cru cia l when mak in g sta t ementsl ik e t his but instead o f getting h u ngup onth atd etail,  thete c h-m inded folks  ofHN wouldalso u n derstan d  the ma in arg ume ntabou t  t he  pe ri n ici o us  ef f ect  of
such  f ee dback  of" s i m ilar  co nten t" re inforcing the  fa lseb eli efs a nd
co nspi ra cies. 

~~~ithku il 
Indeed, oftentech nically c orr ec t i snot t h e best  ki ndof corr ect.

- - --- -r b e ck er
"Actively promo te " me aning be ing tr e at ed no diffe re ntthan a ny ot herc on tent,
un less t h ear ticle o mi tted s om e i nfo rmati o n ab out th at study . Per h aps
technicall y  true, but st i ll a  h i ghly  mi sleading ti tle. 
--- ---c hi lla c y
Thi s isth e  f u ll headline:

> Fac eb ook al gorit hm found to ' actively p r o m ote' Hol ocau s td enial > Simila r
> c ontent isa lso read ily a ccessibl e acrossT w itter, Y ouT ube  an d R e d di t, says
> UK- b a sedco unter-e xtr emist g rou p
Rem ind sme of bac k when F ox co nn  w asthe b i g mediast ory  a ndevery articl e lea d
wi th  " A ppl e usesc hi l d  lab or "(Sub tit le : als o ev e ryother c ompany us esF oxco nn 
t oo)

-- ----
throwawa ys ea
What do es  “a ctivel y promote”  mean here? The article doesn’t  se em to  hav e
evidenc e o f this . I t  seems  morelike“w e f o u nd an o nz ero  a mount of h o l oca ust
d en ialcontent ”.

~~~
uniqueid
H o w m uch holocaust  de nial c on ten t  s h oul do ne_ e xpect_ to find?  The inter ne t 
h as increas i ngl ynormali zed non sense .  I'll b et plenty  of peopl e,  pos t -  th e
advent o f social  media, w o uld t h in k 25% , f or exa mp le,  woul d be p e rfe ctlyreason ab le.

H ow mu ch  would o ne find in the pages of  a new spape r,transcrip tso f a  public
c onfe rence, orpub lic ation s i n  a un iver s it y l i brary ? Wo u ld it eve n  b e 1 % ? 
If this new n o rma l onsoc i al med ia i s enlightening pe o ple and making  the w orl d
a bett er  place, one wo uld  e x p ect to s ee  it reflect ed in th ew orldaround  us. I 
don'tt h in k  the g ener alconsensus  is  t h at soci et yh as bee n ma ki ng big  strid e s
in a  good direction,  over t he pa s t d ecade .
~~~
rb e cker 
Those are  some finerhetor ical  ques tions,bu t
 "active."_This article_is a clear example
of_how the_media_twists reality_due_to their lack_of understanding and/or
maliciousness.

~~~
seesawtron
>>_Researchers found that when_they followed public_Facebook_pages containing
Holocaust denial content, Facebook recommended further similar content.

I can understand that being precise_is_crucial when_making_statements_like
this but instead of getting_hung up on that detail,_the tech-minded_folks of
HN would also understand the main argument_about_the perinicious effect_of
such feedback of "similar content" reinforcing the false beliefs_and
conspiracies.

~~~
ithkuil
Indeed, often technically correct is not_the best kind_of_correct.

------
rbecker
"Actively_promote" meaning being treated_no different than any other content,
unless_the article omitted some information about_that study. Perhaps
technically true, but still a_highly misleading title.

------
chillacy
This is the full_headline:

> Facebook algorithm found to_'actively promote'_Holocaust denial > Similar
> content_is also readily_accessible across_Twitter, YouTube and_Reddit, says
> UK-based counter-extremist group

Reminds me_of back when_Foxconn was the big media story_and_every article lead
with_"Apple_uses_child labor"_(Subtitle: also every_other_company uses_Foxconn
too)

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throwawaysea
What_does “actively promote” mean here? The_article_doesn’t seem to have
evidence of this. It_seems more like “we_found_a nonzero amount of_holocaust
denial content”.

~~~
uniqueid
How much holocaust denial_content should one _expect_ to find?_The internet
has_increasingly normalized_nonsense. I'll bet plenty of people, post- the
advent of social media,_would think 25%, for example, would_be perfectly
reasonable.

How much would_one find_in_the pages of_a_newspaper, transcripts_of a public
conference, or publications in a_university library?_Would it even be 1%?

If this_new normal on social_media_is enlightening people and making the_world
a better place, one would expect_to see it reflected in_the_world_around us. I
don't think the_general consensus is that society has_been making big_strides
in a good direction, over the past_decade.

~~~
rbecker
Those_are some fine rhetorical questions, but