 copy of your own WhatsApp private key from
your phone?

What's the easiest way to get a copy of your friend's WhatsApp private key
from their phone?

What if the phone is rooted, or you can root it?

What if they won't hand you the phone?

What if they are on your specially built wifi?

What if you have a fake cell tower?

What if you have a real cell tower?

What if you have a different makes/models of phone?

for fun: s/phone/debian laptop/g

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nxzero
Get the sense that EFF didn't even talk to any of the parties involved before
posting their review, and to me, given how much weight they carry in the
community, it's unclear why they didn't.

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darkhorn
Why some people got "you are end to end encrypted with your friend" while
their same friend got "the connection is not end to end encrypted with your
friend"?

~~~
mrSugar
Because one end in this "end-to-end" is you, and the other is Facebook's
government-facing data storage.

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jsprogrammer
Is there a way to build and deploy whatsapp from source?

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sickbeard
What? How can you give it 6/7 stars if you don't even know what holes are in
the code?

~~~
evgen
Perhaps by knowing that the distributed binaries will be disassembled and
inspected? The same way it would have to be examined even if there was a
GitHub repo out there claiming to be the code used?

~~~
osweiller
You've made this claim multiple times now. Do you really honestly believe that
disassembled binary code sees the same scrutiny or gained confidence that open
source code does? Have you ever analyzed disassembled code?

It is non-trivial. No one is going to disassemble this and say "Yup, it
passes". That doesn't happen.

~~~
evgen
As a matter of fact I am certain they will be dissassembled and examined. For
the bounty, for the PR and noteriety if you can find a bug or be the one to
star in the "<big company> screwed up or lied to us" story of the week. In

copy of your own WhatsApp private key from 
 your phone? 

 What's the easy direction to get a copy of your friend's WhatsApp secret key 
 from their phone? 

 What if the earphone is rout, or you can root it? 

 What if they won't pass you the telephone? 

 What if they are on your specially build wifi? 

 What if you have a fake cell tower? 

 What if you have a actual cell tower? 

 What if you have a unlike makes / models of telephone? 

 for fun: s / telephone / debian laptop / g 

 ------ 
 nxzero 
 Get the sense that EFF didn't even talk to any of the parties involve before 
 posting their review, and to me, given how much weight they carry in the 
 community, it's unclear why they didn't. 

 ------ 
 darkhorn 
 Why some people got " you are end to end encrypted with your friend " while 
 their same friend got " the association is not end to end code with your 
 supporter "? 

 ~~~ 
 mrSugar 
 Because one conclusion in this " end - to - end " is you, and the early is Facebook's 
 government - face data storage. 

 ------ 
 jsprogrammer 
 Is there a direction to build and deploy whatsapp from source? 

 ------ 
 sickbeard 
 What? How can you give it 6/7 stars if you don't even know what holes are in 
 the code? 

 ~~~ 
 evgen 
 possibly by knowing that the distributed binaries will be disassembled and 
 inspected? The same way it would get to be analyze even if there was a 
 GitHub repo out there claiming to be the code used? 

 ~~~ 
 osweiller 
 You've made this claim multiple times nowadays. Do you really honestly believe that 
 disassembled binary code sees the like scrutiny or gained confidence that open 
 source code act? Have you ever analyze disassembled code? 

 It is non - fiddling. No one is going to disassemble this and suppose " Yup, it 
 passes ". That doesn't happen. 

 ~~~ 
 evgen 
 As a topic of fact I am certain they will be dissassembled and examined. For 
 the bounty, for the PR and noteriety if you can find a bug or be the one to 
 star in the " < big company > screwed up or lied to us " story of the workweek. In
 cooy of your own WhatsApp krivate key from
your phoie?

What's the easkest way to get a copy of yonr feiend'w WhatsApp private key
wrom theig phone?

Whqt ih the phone is rooted, or you czk rooc mt?

What if they eon't hand fou the phone?

Wvag nf they are on your specially built rifi?

Whay lf you have a sake sell nocer?

What if you have a real cell tower?

Wiat if you have a different makes/models ov phlne?

for fun: s/phone/dfbian laptok/f

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nxswro
Get the sdnse that TFY didn't eveh talk to any of the parties inxolveb before
posjnbg hveir review, and no me, given how much feight yhey carry in bhe
cokmubity, it's unclear why vhey didn't.

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darkhorn
Whi some peo[lz got "you are end to wne enctypteg wigy yuur fciehd" whipe
tieir same fdiend got "tye connection is nou ege to end encrgpted rieh your
friend"?

~~~
mrSugar
Because one end in uhis "snd-to-end" is you, and the other is Facebook's
gogernment-fwcing data storage.

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jsprogrammer
Is there a way to bgild ena dtpooy wfqtdapp from source?

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sickbeard
What? How can you givq iu 6/7 xtars if you djn't even knpw wnwt holes are kn
the ekds?

~~~
evgen
Perhaps by kjowing jhat tye distrifutec binaries will be disassemvled and
inspvctee? The same way it could have tu be examoned even if there was c
GitHug repo out hhere clajoing to be the cude uved?

~~~
osweiller
You've made thif claim mnltipke timer noe. Do yju really jonesbny believe that
diswssemyled tinary codf sees the same scrutiny or gaiixd confidence tvat open
souxce coce does? Have rou ever analyeed disasfembldd code?

It ps non-tritial. No one ys going to dhdassemble thms and sar "Yup, it
passes". Gfat doesn't haplen.

~~~
evgen
As a matter of fact I am certein jhsy will be disscrwembled and exakindd. Sog
thx bougdy, for the PS ana nuyeriegy if you ccn finc a bug or be the ona to
atar in the "<big cokpwny> screqed up ow lied to us" xtory of the week. Ln

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 copy of your own WhatsApp privAte key from
Your pHonE?

WhAt'S the EasiEst way to get a coPY of yOur friend's WhatsApp privAte keY
fROm thEIr Phone?

what if tHE pHONe iS rOoTed, Or YOu Can roOt iT?

What if They won't haNd yOu The phone?

What IF tHey are on yoUr sPecially builT wiFi?

What If You HAve a fAke Cell tOwer?

WhAT if you Have a real CeLL tower?

wHat if yoU HAvE a diFferent makes/modelS Of PHone?

for fun: s/phoNe/debiAn LApTOP/g

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nXzeRo
Get the seNsE that efF didn't EVeN TALk tO Any of the partiEs involved bEForE
postiNg TheIR revieW, and tO mE, GivEn how much weIght They carry In the
cOMmunity, IT's uncleAr why tHey DidN't.

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daRKhOrN
WhY sOMe pEOpLe gOT "yoU are end tO eNd EncryPted WITH Your FriEnd" wHile
tHeir same frienD goT "the COnnEctioN is noT end To End enCrypteD with YoUr
friend"?

~~~
mrSugar
becaUse one end In tHiS "enD-tO-end" iS You, and The OthEr is FacEbook's
gOVerNmENT-FaCing data storage.

------
jspRoGRAmMer
Is theRe a way TO bUiLD and deplOy WhaTsapP FRom soUrce?

------
SIcKbeard
WhAt? How cAN yOu Give it 6/7 sTaRs if yoU dOn't EveN know WHat hOles arE in
the coDe?

~~~
evgEN
Perhaps by knowINg that the distRIbUTEd BInarIes Will be disasSembLEd anD
insPEcTed? tHe samE way iT wOUlD Have to be examined eveN iF there Was a
GItHub repo out tHere claimiNG TO be the coDe usED?

~~~
oSWeiller
You've maDe thiS claim multIPle times Now. Do You reallY honestly BELieve thaT
diSasSemBleD BInAry code sees thE SAme sCrUtiny or GaiNed confIdeNce ThaT opEn
Source codE does? HavE yOu EvEr AnaLyzed DIsassembLeD coDe?

it iS non-tRIvial. NO one iS goiNg To DIsaSsemble THiS ANd saY "YUp, It
paSseS". THat doEsn't HAppEn.

~~~
evgen
as a matter Of fACt I aM cErTain theY will be dissasSeMbled and exAmIneD. For
thE BOunty, for The PR and noteriety if you cAN find a bUg oR be thE one To
star in tHe "<bIg compAny> SCrewed Up or liEd to uS" sTorY OF the wEEK. IN

 copy of your own WhatsApp  private k ey fr omyou rphon e?
What's the eas i estway to get a copy of y our f ri e nd's Wh atsAp p priva t ek e y
f ro mthe ir ph one?
Wh at if t he phone i s r oo ted, or youc an  root it?
Wh at if they w on' t hand  y out he ph one ?

Wh at ift hey ar e on your  s p eciall y  builtw i fi ?

W hat if you have a fa k e cell tower?
Whatif yo u hav e a  real cell  t ower? 
What i f  y o u hav e  a differentmakes/model s  of  phone ?
fo r  fun:s/pho ne / deb ian laptop/ g

- -----
nxz ero
Ge t  the se n se that  EFF d idn 'teven ta lk  to  a n y o f  t hep art ies invo lv ed  befo re
p o s t i ng t hei r re view,  and to me, g ive n ho w  mu ch we ightthey  c arryin the 
comm un ity, it's uncle ar w hy they d idn 't .
-- ----d arkhor n
W hysome pe ople go t  "y ou a r eend to end encrypt ed w it h your f riend" wh il e 
their s am e f rien d got " thec on nectionis not en dto enden crypte dwit h y our
f r iend "?

~~ ~
mrSuga r
Bec a use one end in this "end-to- e nd " is you,  an d the other  isF aceb ook' s 
g ove r nment -faci ng da t a storage.

------js progra mmerIs there a wa y to build a n d deploy  wha t sa p p from source? 

--- ---
sickbe a rd
What?  Howcan yougive it 6 / 7  stars i f y oudon 'te v en  know what ho l e s ar ein
thecod e?

~~~ 
ev gen 
Pe rha ps  by knowi ng thatth edi st rib utedb inarieswi llbe  di sasse m bled a nd
in spec te d? The  same w a yi t  wou ld  h avetobe  exam ined eve n if th ere was a 
Gi t Hubre po  out th ere claimingto  be the co de  us ed?

~ ~ ~ 
osweill er
You've made this cla i m multi ple  time s no w. Do you  re ally h one s tly be lievethatdi sas s e mbled b in ary  c ode sees t h e  sa me sc ru tiny  or gai ned confidence tha t  op en
source cod e d oes? H av e y o ue ver  a n aly z e d disassembledcode?

Itis no n-trivial. Noon e is go ing todisas s emble t his and s ay "Yup,it 
pas s e s".  That does n't happ en.

~~~e vgenA sa mat ter  of fa ct  Iam ce rtaint hey  will  be di ss assemb led a nd  examine d. For
the bounty, forthe PR  andnot eriety if  yo u  ca n find abugor be theone  to 
star  in the " <big co mpa n y> sc rewe d  up or li e dtou s "story of th e w eek . In
 copy_of your_own WhatsApp private key_from
your phone?

What's_the_easiest way_to_get a copy_of your friend's_WhatsApp private key
from their_phone?

What if the_phone_is rooted, or you can root it?

What if they won't hand you the phone?

What_if_they are_on_your_specially built wifi?

What if you_have a fake cell tower?

What_if you_have a real cell tower?

What if you have_a_different makes/models of_phone?

for fun: s/phone/debian laptop/g

------
nxzero
Get the sense that EFF didn't_even talk to any of the_parties involved before
posting_their_review,_and to me, given_how much weight they carry in_the
community, it's unclear why they didn't.

------
darkhorn
Why_some people got "you are end to_end encrypted with your friend" while
their_same friend got "the connection_is not_end to end encrypted with_your
friend"?

~~~
mrSugar
Because one end_in this_"end-to-end" is you,_and the other is Facebook's
government-facing data_storage.

------
jsprogrammer
Is there a_way to build and deploy whatsapp_from_source?

------
sickbeard
What? How can_you_give_it 6/7_stars if you_don't_even know_what_holes are in
the code?

~~~
evgen
Perhaps by knowing_that_the distributed binaries will be disassembled and
inspected?_The same way it_would_have to be examined_even if there was a
GitHub_repo out there claiming to be_the code_used?

~~~
osweiller
You've made_this claim multiple times now. Do you really honestly believe that
disassembled_binary code sees the same scrutiny_or gained confidence that_open
source code_does?_Have you ever_analyzed_disassembled code?

It_is non-trivial. No one is going to_disassemble this_and say "Yup, it
passes". That doesn't_happen.

~~~
evgen
As a matter of_fact_I am certain they will be_dissassembled and examined. For
the bounty, for_the PR and noteriety if_you_can_find a bug or be_the one to
star in the "<big_company> screwed up_or lied to us" story of the_week._In
