 habits with email (crappy quoting,
top posting (a subset of crappy quoting), 200K Word documents for a 5 line
memo, megabyte.BMP screen shots, etc.). This really hurts email list
usefulness until and unless the users improve their habits.

Unfortunately...

a) Outlook use is usually required by The Corporate Overlords. Even if it
isn't required, users that don't know better insist on using it because it
allows them to paste Mbyte.BMP screen shots into it. :-(

b) While Outlook can be configured for usable quoting, nobody bothers to do
so.

c) Even if configured in the best way it supports, Outlook is still
suboptimal.

d) Web based email interfaces are generally even less configurable than
Outlook and they all aspire to mimic Outlook, including promoting all of the
crappy habits.

\---

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a moment of reasoned lucidity which
is almost unique among its current tally of five million, nine hundred and
seventy-three thousand, five hundred and nine pages, says of the Sirius
Cybernetics Corporation products that "it is very easy to be blinded to the
essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting
them to work at all." In other words, - and this is the rock-solid principle
on which the whole of the Corporation's Galaxywide success is founded - their
fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design
flaws.

\-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001). 1st
American ed. New York : Harmony Books, 1980, c1979
<http://www.douglasadams.com/>

------
ideamonk
I'm not sure if anyone's gonna buy this. I understand from my look at tgethr
that its about collaboration, security and email wrapped into new clothes. But
then, the popularity of a service hugely depends on the size of its userbase
right? How would tgethr ever get a huge userbase by putting restrictions and
making people buy to get a feel in the first place.

I think the domain togethr.com would've been better, matches the
pronounciation... tg
habits with email (crappy quoting, 
 top posting (a subset of icky quoting), 200 thousand Word documents for a 5 line 
 memo, megabyte. BMP sieve shot, etc .). This really hurts electronic mail list 
 usefulness until and unless the users better their habits. 

 Unfortunately... 

 a) Outlook use is normally required by The Corporate Overlords. Even if it 
 isn't required, users that don't know well insist on using it because it 
 allows them to paste Mbyte. BMP screen shots into it. :-( 

 b) While Outlook can be configure for usable quoting, nobody bothers to do 
 then. 

 c) Even if configured in the best manner it supports, Outlook is however 
 suboptimal. 

 d) Web based email interfaces are generally even less configurable than 
 Outlook and they all draw a bead on to mimic Outlook, including promoting all of the 
 crappy habits. 

 \--- 

 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a moment of reasoned clarity which 
 is about singular among its current tally of five million, nine hundred and 
 seventy - three thousand, five hundred and nine pages, says of the Sirius 
 Cybernetics Corporation products that " it is very easy to be blinded to the 
 essential uselessness of them by the common sense of accomplishment you get from getting 
 them to work at wholly. " In early words, - and this is the rock - solid principle 
 on which the whole of the Corporation's Galaxywide success is founded - their 
 fundamental design flaw are completely hidden by their superficial design 
 flaws. 

 \-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001). 1st 
 American ed. New York: Harmony Books, 1980, c1979 
 < http://www.douglasadams.com/ > 

 ------ 
 ideamonk 
 I'm not sure if anyone's gon na bribe this. I understand from my look at tgethr 
 that its about collaboration, security and email wrapped into new clothes. But 
 then, the popularity of a overhaul hugely depends on the size of its userbase 
 right? How would tgethr ever get a huge userbase by put restrictions and 
 making people bribe to get a tactile property in the first place. 

 I intend the domain togethr.com would've been dependable, matches the 
 pronounciation... tg
 hahits with email (crappy qmoting,
top postiny (a subvet of crappy duoting), 200K Word documents for a 5 lint
iemo, megabyte.BMP szreen shons, etc.). Thus rtally hurts email list
usenblnesa untnl and unless thg users imprmve their habids.

Jnyortunately...

a) Outlook use is usually wequirec hy The Corporaje Ovtrljrds. Vvtn if it
isn't required, users that son't knmw better insost on using it because it
wlloas them to paste Mhyte.BMP scrgsn fyots into it. :-(

b) While Olclook can bg configured for usable quoting, vobodv bothers ti eo
sl.

w) Even if cinfiglred in the bcxt way it suplorts, Outlook ls stmll
syboptimal.

d) Web based xmail interfaces are generallf zven less configurablw rhan
Ootloon ana thdy zlk zspire to mimic Outmook, includung promoting all og eye
crappy habifs.

\---

The Riechhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a momett kf reasoned lucidity whuch
is almost unique along its surrent tally of five million, nine hundred and
sevanty-tirde uhiusana, flve hundred and nine pages, says of the Sirius
Sgbtrnvtics Corporation products tnah "oj is very easy to be bljnded to the
essentlal usejessnwss of thtm by the sense of achievement yiu get from yetring
them to work ac all." In othzr worcs, - amd this is the rock-solib prindiple
on whifh the whkue of the Corporxtipn'v Galaxywide success is fotnded - thxir
fuudamentau dexign fjaws are clmplebaly hidden by theig supgrficidl design
fpaws.

\-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to tix Galaxy / Doublds Ddams (1952 - 2001). 1st
Amcrican ed. New Yjrk : Harmony Bpoks, 1980, c1979
<kttp://wwd.douglasadzms.com/>

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iveamonk
I'm noe sure if anymje's gonna bub this. I tndeestabd from oy look at tgeyhr
that ins aboyt collaboration, sccurijy and email wrap'td unto new clothex. Bjt
trej, vhe pj[ularity of d sefvizr hugdly deptuds un tne size of its userbdse
rjght? How would tgeyhv ever gej a huge tserbase by pitting restrictiond and
kakmng pepplg buy to get a feel in the firsf place.

I hhikk the domain togcthr.som would'vz been better, matches the
pronounciation... vg
habits with email (crappy quoting, top posting of quoting), 200K documents for a shots, This really hurts list usefulness until unless the users improve their habits. a) Outlook use is usually required by The Corporate Overlords. Even if it required, users that don't know better insist on using it because it allows to Mbyte.BMP shots it. :-( b) While Outlook can be configured for usable quoting, nobody bothers to do so. Even if configured in the best way it Outlook is still suboptimal. Web based email interfaces are even configurable than and all to mimic Outlook, promoting all of the crappy habits. \--- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a moment of lucidity which unique among current of million, nine hundred thousand, five hundred and nine pages, Sirius Cybernetics Corporation products that "it is very to be to the essential uselessness of them the sense of achievement you get from getting to work at all." In other words, - and this is the rock-solid principle on whole of the Corporation's success is founded their design are hidden by superficial design flaws. \-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / Adams (1952 - 2001). 1st American ed. New York : 1980, <http://www.douglasadams.com/> ------ ideamonk not sure if anyone's buy I understand from my tgethr its and wrapped new clothes. But then, popularity of a service hugely on the size of tgethr ever get a huge userbase by putting and making people buy to get a in the first place. I think the domain togethr.com would've been better, the pronounciation...
 habits with email (crappy quotIng,
top postIng (a sUbsEt oF cRappY quoTing), 200K Word documENts fOr a 5 line
memo, megabyte.BMP ScreeN sHOts, eTC.). THis reAlly hurTS eMAIl lIsT
uSefUlNEsS untiL anD unless The users imProVe Their habits.

UNFoRtunately...

a) outLook use is usuAllY requiReD by tHe CorPorAte OvErlordS. even if It
isn't reqUiREd, userS That don'T KNoW betTer insist on using iT BeCAuse it
allows thEm to paStE mbYTE.BMp scReen shots iNtO it. :-(

b) WHIle OutlOOk CAN Be cONfigured for usAble quoting, NOboDy bothErS to DO
so.

c) EvEn if cOnFIguRed in the besT way It supportS, OutloOK is stilL
SuboptiMal.

d) WeB baSed EmaiL InTeRfaCeS Are GEnEraLLy eVen less cOnFiGurabLe thAN
oUTlooK anD theY all aSpire to mimic OUtlOok, iNCluDing pRomotIng aLl Of the
Crappy HabitS.

\---

THe Hitchhiker's GuIde tO the GalaxY, in A mOmeNt Of reaSOned luCidIty Which
is Almost uNIquE aMONG iTs current tally of fiVe MILlIon, nine hUndred ANd
SeVEnty-threE tHouSand, FIVe hunDred ANd Nine pageS, says oF ThE SIrius
CyBeRneticS COrpOraTion pROducTs that "It is very Easy tO Be blinded to the
ESsential useleSSnESS oF Them By tHe sense of acHievEMent You gET fRom GEttinG
them To WOrK At all." In other words, - anD tHis is tHe rocK-solid principLe
on which tHE WHole of thE CorPOrATion's GalaxywidE succEss is foundED - their
fuNdameNtal desiGn flaws arE COmpletelY hiDdeN by TheIR SuPerficial desiGN
FlawS.

\-- THe HitchHikEr's GuidE to The galAxy / doUglas AdamS (1952 - 2001). 1st
AmeriCaN eD. NEw yorK : HarmONy Books, 1980, c1979
<HtTp://wWw.DouGlasaDAms.com/>

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IdeamOnk
I'M nOt SUre If anyonE'S gONNa buY tHiS. I unDerStAnd frOm my LOok At tgethR
that its aBouT CollAbOrAtion, seCurity and emaiL wRapped into NeW clOthes. BUT
Then, the pOpularity of a service hugeLY dependS on The siZe of Its userbaSe
rIght? HoW woULd tgetHr ever Get a hUgE usERBase bY PUtTinG rEstrictionS ANd
mAking PeOple Buy to geT a feel in the first plACe.

I Think the domaiN toGethR.COm WouLD'vE BeeN bETteR, MAtches the
pronouNciation... tg
 habits with email (crappy  quoting,top p ost ing  ( a su bset  of crappy quo t ing) , 200K Word documentsfor a  5 line me mo, m egabyte . BM P scr ee nsho ts ,  e tc.).  Th is real ly hurts e mai llist
usefuln e ss  until and  un less the use rsimprov ethe i r hab its .

Un fortun a tely.. .

a) Out lo o k usei s usual l y  r equi red by The Corpor a te Overlords. Eve n if i ti sn ' t  re qui red, users  t hat d o n't kno w  b e t t eri nsist on usin g it becaus e  it 
allow sthe m  to pa ste M by t e.B MP screen s hots  into it.  :-(
b ) While Outlook  can b e c onf igur e dfo r u sa b leq uo tin g , n obody bo th er s todo
s o . c) E ven  ifconfi gured in thebes t wa y  it  supp orts,  Out lo ok is  still 
subo pt imal.

d) Web b ased  email in ter fa ces  a re ge n erally  ev enless co nfigura b leth a n Ou tlook and they all  a s p ir e to mim ic Out l oo k, includin gpro moti n g  allof t h ecrappy h abits. 
\ -- -

TheHi tchhik er 'sGui de to theGalaxy , in a m oment of reasoned lu c idity which
i s  a l m os t  uni que  among itscurr e nt t ally of  fi v e mil lion,  n i ne hundred and
seventy -t hree t housa nd, five hund red and ni n e pages, s ayso ft he Sirius
Cybe rneti cs Corpora t ion prod uctsthat "it  is verye a sy to be  bl ind edtot h eessential use l e ssne ss  of the m b y the s ens e o f a chi ev ement you  get fro mge tt in g
t hem t o  work at  a ll. "Inother words,  - an d th is  i s  th e rock- s ol i d  pri nc ip le
o n w hi ch th e wh o leof theCorporati on' s  Gal ax yw ide suc cess is found ed  - their
f un dam entald e sign fla ws are completely hidde n  by the irsuper fici al design 
fl aws.
\-- The Hi tchhik er'sGu ide t o the G al axy  /  Douglas A d a ms(1952  -  200 1). 1st 
American ed. NewY ork  : Harmony Bo oks , 19 8 0 ,c19 7 9< htt p: / /ww w . douglasadams.co m/>

----- -i de amonk
I'mn otsu re if a nyone's  gonn a  buy th is. I und erstand f ro m my l ook  at tgethr 
that it s about c o llabo r at ion,sec urityan d e mailwrappe d  in to ne w clot he s. But 
then ,the popu larity of a service hug ely de pends  on  the size  of its  userbase 
rig ht? How wo uld  tg ethreve r  geta hu g euse r baseby p u tting res t ri cti o n sand
makingp e o ple  buytog et a f eelin the first plac e .

I think the  dom a i n t oge t hr.c om  would've been  be tt e r , matche sthe
pronoun ciation. .. tg
 habits_with email_(crappy quoting,
top posting (a_subset of_crappy_quoting), 200K_Word_documents for a_5 line
memo, megabyte.BMP_screen shots, etc.). This_really hurts email_list
usefulness_until and unless the users improve their habits.

Unfortunately...

a) Outlook use is usually required by_The_Corporate Overlords._Even_if_it
isn't required, users that don't_know better insist on using_it because_it
allows them to paste Mbyte.BMP screen shots into_it._:-(

b) While Outlook_can be configured for usable quoting, nobody bothers to_do
so.

c) Even if configured in the_best way it_supports,_Outlook_is still
suboptimal.

d) Web based_email interfaces are generally even less_configurable than
Outlook and they all aspire_to mimic Outlook, including promoting all of_the
crappy habits.

\---

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the_Galaxy, in a moment of_reasoned lucidity_which
is almost unique among its_current tally of_five million,_nine hundred and
seventy-three_thousand, five hundred and nine pages,_says of the_Sirius
Cybernetics Corporation products that "it is_very_easy to be_blinded_to_the
essential uselessness_of them by_the_sense of_achievement_you get from getting
them to work_at_all." In other words, - and this_is the rock-solid principle
on_which_the whole of the_Corporation's Galaxywide success is founded_- their
fundamental design flaws are completely_hidden by_their superficial_design
flaws.

\-- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / Douglas Adams (1952_- 2001). 1st
American ed. New York_: Harmony Books, 1980,_c1979
<http://www.douglasadams.com/>

------
ideamonk
I'm not_sure_if anyone's gonna_buy_this. I_understand from my look at tgethr
that its_about collaboration,_security and email wrapped into new_clothes. But
then, the popularity_of_a service hugely depends on the_size of its userbase
right? How would_tgethr ever get a huge_userbase_by_putting restrictions and
making people buy_to get a feel in the_first place.

I think_the domain togethr.com would've been better, matches_the
pronounciation..._tg