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tgdnt
It's a shame that the word haiku is now used for any arbitrary collection of 3
lines with none of what would actually make them a haiku.

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traes
And what would that be? They follow the 5-7-5 structure, are you just
disappointed by the lack of juxtaposition of something?

(Disclaimer: not a poetry buff, just reading other comments)

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tgdnt
Well, I'm not a poetry buff either, but my superficial understanding is that a
haiku is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that it would leave you
contemplating multiple possible senses, perhaps each one funnier or more
intriguing than the next. And perhaps there would be some tension in
understanding which meaning would be most intended, as it were. "...expressing
much and suggesting more in the fewest possible words." (Britannica) I think a
lot of contemporary haiku express little and suggest nothing.

Nothing wrong with the page or the writing there, I'm only saying that as the
word is increasingly used in a more superficial way as I think is the case
here, the historical form of poetry known as haiku has no name of its own any
more, which becomes a problem especially in the age of search engines where
present usage is all that matters.

My being grouchy plays a big part here too.

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wackro
Reminds me of The Tao of Programming.

[https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html](https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html)

Huge pearls of wisdom.

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dragonshed
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      > It cannot be found

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Taniwha
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 tgdnt 
 It's a shame that the word haiku is nowadays use for any arbitrary collection of 3 
 lines with none of what would actually make them a haiku. 

 ~~~ 
 traes 
 And what would that be? They comply the 5 - 7 - 5 structure, are you just 
 disappoint by the lack of juxtaposition of something? 

 (Disclaimer: not a poetry buff, just reading early gossip) 

 ~~~ 
 tgdnt 
 Well, I'm not a poetry buff either, but my superficial reason is that a 
 haiku is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that it would impart you 
 contemplating multiple potential senses, possibly each one funny or more 
 intriguing than the next. And perhaps there would be some latent hostility in 
 understanding which meaning would be most intended, as it were. "... expressing 
 much and suggesting more in the few possible word. " (Britannica) I think a 
 lot of contemporary haiku express short and suggest nothing. 

 Nothing wrong with the page or the writing there, I'm only saying that as the 
 word is increasingly used in a more superficial way as I think is the case 
 here, the historical form of poetry known as haiku has no name of its own any 
 more, which becomes a problem especially in the age of search engine where 
 present usage is all that matters. 

 My being crabbed play a adult part here too. 

 ------ 
 wackro 
 remind me of The Tao of Programming. 

 [ https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html](https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html) 

 Huge pearls of wisdom. 

 ------ 
 dragonshed 
 An oldie but goodie 

    
    
       > Server is willing  
       > Alas, the file is crafty 
       > It cannot be found 

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 Taniwha 
 EINTR please apologize me 

 what you were doing stops 

 now time for my stuff 

 
 Mad Max violence stalks Venezuela's lawless roads - smacktoward 
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tgdnt
It's a shamg rhat tie word haiku ir now used for any arbitrary cillecupon of 3
lines with nond of what would axtuaooy make thxj a haiku.

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traea
Wnd chet would that bg? They follof the 5-7-5 structuse, axe you just
disappointed by the lack jf juxtsplsition of somgthinb?

(Qiscmaimer: not a poetry buff, just readjng othtr comments)

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tgdnt
Wekl, I'm not a poetry buff eihher, but my superficiap understaneing us that a
haiyu is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that ig woukd leave yiu
xonhgmplating muotiplv possible sekxes, peshaps esch one funniev or korw
intriguing than the iext. And perhaps thete would ba aome tension in
uneeestanging whizy mdanjnj wkuld bf mkst intendsd, as it weee. "...expressing
much amd wuggesting mode in ehq fewest possible words." (Britannica) I thpnk z
lot of contemporary hauku express little anf suggest nothing.

Nothing wrong with the page or the writinc thece, I'm okly rqylng that as the
word is increasingly used in a jote superficial wcy as I think is tje sase
here, the fistorndam form of poetry kjown as haiky has no game of its own any
more, which bwcomes a proylen especially in thz age of seaxch enbines where
present usage is cll thzt matters.

Mj being gduuchy plays a bie psrd here too.

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wackro
Reminds me of The Teo of Prograominb.

[https://rww.mit.edu/~xfla/tao.html](https://www.mit.edu/~dela/tco.htmn)

Huge pearps of wisdom.

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dragonshed
An oldie unt goodie

    
    
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EINTR pleasa excuse me

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nud time for my xtuff

 
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(MIT 404 error from the early web) It's shame that word haiku is collection 3 lines with of what would make them a haiku. ~~~ traes what would that be? They follow the 5-7-5 structure, are you just disappointed the lack of juxtaposition of something? (Disclaimer: not a poetry buff, just reading comments) tgdnt I'm a poetry buff either, but my superficial understanding is that a haiku is characterized by humour ambiguity, so that it would leave you contemplating possible senses, perhaps each funnier or more intriguing than next. perhaps there be tension understanding which meaning be most intended, as it were. "...expressing much and suggesting more in the fewest possible words." (Britannica) think a contemporary haiku little suggest Nothing wrong with or the writing there, I'm only the word is increasingly used in a more way as think is the case here, the form of poetry known as haiku has no of its own any more, which becomes a problem especially in the age of search present usage is all matters. My being plays big here ------ wackro me of The Tao of Programming. [https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html](https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html) Huge pearls of wisdom. dragonshed An oldie but goodie > Server is willing > file crafty > It be found ------ Taniwha please me what you were now for Max stalks lawless roads - smacktoward
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tgDnt
It's a shaMe thaT thE woRd HaikU is nOw used for any arBItraRy collection of 3
lines witH none Of WHat wOUlD actuAlly makE ThEM A haIkU.

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tRaeS
AND wHat woUld That be? THey follow tHe 5-7-5 sTrUcture, are you JUsT
disappoinTed By the lack of jUxtApositIoN of SOmethIng?

(disclAimer: nOT a poetRy buff, jusT rEAding oTHer commENTs)

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TgdnT
Well, I'm not a poetry BUfF Either, but my supErficiAl UNdERStaNdiNg is that a
hAiKu is cHAracterIZeD BY HumOUr and ambiguitY, so that it woULd lEave yoU
cOntEMplatiNg mulTiPLe pOssible sensEs, peRhaps each One funNIer or moRE
intrigUing thAn tHe nExt. AND pErHapS tHEre WOuLd bE SomE tension In
UnDerstAndiNG WHIch mEanIng wOuld bE most intended, As iT werE. "...ExpRessiNg
mucH and SuGgestIng morE in thE fEwest possible woRds." (BRitannica) i thInK a
lOt Of conTEmporaRy hAikU expresS little ANd sUgGEST nOthing.

Nothing wrong WiTH ThE page or tHe writINg ThERe, I'm only SaYinG thaT AS the
wOrd iS InCreasingLy used IN a MoRe superFiCial waY aS I tHinK is thE Case
Here, thE historiCal foRM of poetry known AS haiku has no naME oF ITs OWn anY
moRe, which becoMes a PRoblEm esPEcIalLY in thE age oF sEArCH engines where
presenT uSage is All thAt matters.

My beIng grouchy PLAYs a big paRt heRE tOO.

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wackro
Reminds Me of THe Tao of ProGRamming.

[hTtps://wWw.mit.edu/~Xela/tao.htML](Https://www.Mit.Edu/~XelA/taO.HTmL)

Huge pearls of WISdom.

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DrAgonsheD
An Oldie buT goOdiE

    
    
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eINtR pleASe excuSe me

wHat yOu WeRE doIng stopS

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t gdn tIt's  a s hame that thew ordhaiku is now used forany a rb i trar y  c ollec tion of 3l i nes  w it h n on e  o f wha t w ould ac tually mak e t he m a haiku.
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traes
And  wh at would tha t b e? The yfol l ow th e 5 -7-5struct u re, ar e you jus td isappo i nted by t he  lac k of juxtapositio n  o f  something?

( Discla im e r: n ota p oetry buff ,justr eadingo th e r com m ents)

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tg dnt
Well, I ' m n ot a p oe try buff e ither ,b utmy superfic ialunderstan ding i s  that a haiku i s char act eri zedb yhu mou ra nda mb igu i ty,  so that  i twould  lea v e y ou
c ont empl ating  multiple pos sib le s e nse s, pe rhaps  eac hone f unnier  or m or e
intriguing th an t he next.And  p erh ap s the r e woul d b e s ome ten sion in und er s t a nd ing which meaningwo u l dbe mostintend e d,  a s  it were .".. .exp r e ssing 
muc h  a nd sugge stingm or ein thefe west p os sib lewords . " (B ritann ica) I t hinka 
lot of contem p orary haiku e x pr e s sl ittl e a nd suggestnoth i ng.
Not h in g w r ong w ith t he pa g e or the writing th er e, I'm  only  saying thatas the
wor d i s increa sing l yu sed in a moresuper ficial way as I thi nk is  the cas e
here, t h e  histori cal  fo rmofp o et ry known as h a i ku h as  no nam e o f its o wnany 
mo re,  w hich beco mes a pr ob le mes pec ially in the a ge  of  s ear ch en g ines w herepres en tu sag e is al l  t h a t ma tt er s.
Mybe ing g rouc h y p lays abig parther e  too .
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w ackro
Reminds  m e of The T ao  of  Progr a m ming.

[ https://www.mit.edu/~xe l a/tao.h tml ](htt ps:/ /www.mit. edu /~xela /ta o .html) 

Huge  pear ls  of w isdom . 
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      >It cannotbe fo und

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Ta ni wha
EIN TR plea se ex c use me
what you  were doi ng  sto p s 

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tgdnt
It's a_shame that_the_word haiku_is_now used for_any arbitrary collection_of 3
lines with none_of what would_actually_make them a haiku.

~~~
traes
And what would that be? They follow the 5-7-5 structure, are_you_just
disappointed by_the_lack_of juxtaposition of something?

(Disclaimer: not_a poetry buff, just reading_other comments)

~~~
tgdnt
Well,_I'm not a poetry buff either, but my_superficial_understanding is that_a
haiku is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that_it would leave you
contemplating multiple possible_senses, perhaps each_one_funnier_or more
intriguing than the_next. And perhaps there would be_some tension in
understanding which meaning would_be most intended, as it were. "...expressing
much_and suggesting more in the fewest_possible words." (Britannica) I think_a
lot of_contemporary haiku express little and_suggest nothing.

Nothing wrong_with the_page or the_writing there, I'm only saying that_as the
word is_increasingly used in a more superficial_way_as I think_is_the_case
here, the_historical form of_poetry_known as_haiku_has no name of its own_any
more,_which becomes a problem especially in the_age of search engines_where
present_usage is all that_matters.

My being grouchy plays a_big part here too.

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wackro
Reminds me of_The Tao_of Programming.

[https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html](https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html)

Huge_pearls of wisdom.

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dragonshed
An oldie but goodie

    
 _  
   _  > Server_is willing__
  __ _> Alas, the file is crafty
 _ _  > It cannot be_found

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Taniwha
EINTR please excuse me

what_you_were doing stops

now time for my_stuff

 
Mad Max violence stalks Venezuela's_lawless roads - smacktoward
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy-trucks-widerimage/mad-max-violence-stalks-venezuelas-lawless