 a factor of 2? When I later stumbled upon the Tau
Manifesto, it felt like a lot of things fell into place. And by that time, I
had also studied calculus and had a familiarity with the kinds of things that
happen in formulas which relate lengths and areas, so the discussion of the
circle area formula resonated as well.

Despite all the cheap dismissals one sees, this feeling of "woah, that would
have actually made sense!" is a big part of what makes the Tau Manifesto
popular.

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hugs
I didn't really understand why tau was "better" than pi until I understood the
relationship to radians. Figure 8 [1] in the Tau Manifesto was the eye-opener
for me. With tau, instead of pi, I now have a more intuitive sense of how to
think in radians when doing trigonometry.

[1]: [http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig-
tau_angles](http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig-tau_angles)

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jackmaney
[http://www.thepimanifesto.com/](http://www.thepimanifesto.com/)

~~~
thomasahle
I like Terence's suggestion of using 2 _pi_ i as the fundamental constant.
Sqrt(pi) could also be useful given how often it appears.

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lkbm
Numberphile also has a really fun debate on Pi v. Tau:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U)

~~~
thomasahle
But changing our number system to base 12 would destroy pi day!

~~~
lkbm
Yeah, but as Vihart pointed out, Pi = a half rotation, so Pi day is in June.
:-)

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ebbv
Do we really need to do this every year? Come on.

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amalcon
This is probably the most pointless math argument. Apparently, some people
consider it too cumbersome or confusing to write two glyphs instead of one,
and would prefer to replace the whole thing with a
a factor of 2? When I later stumbled upon the Tau 
 Manifesto, it felt like a fortune of thing fell into place. And by that time, I 
 had besides studied calculus and had a acquaintance with the kinds of things that 
 find in formula which relate distance and areas, so the discussion of the 
 circle sphere formula resonated as well. 

 Despite all the cheap dismissals one sees, this feeling of " woah, that would 
 have actually make sense! " is a big part of what name the Tau Manifesto 
 popular. 

 ------ 
 hugs 
 I didn't really understand why tau was " good " than pi until I understood the 
 relationship to radians. Figure 8 [ 1 ] in the Tau Manifesto was the eye - undoer 
 for me. With tau, instead of pi, I now have a more intuitive sense of how to 
 think in radian when act trigonometry. 

 [ 1 ]: [ http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig- 
 tau_angles](http://www.tauday.com / tau - manifesto#fig - tau_angles) 

 ------ 
 jackmaney 
 [ http://www.thepimanifesto.com/](http://www.thepimanifesto.com/) 

 ~~~ 
 thomasahle 
 I like Terence's suggestion of using 2 _ pi _ i as the fundamental constant. 
 Sqrt(pi) could also be useful given how often it look. 

 ------ 
 lkbm 
 Numberphile also has a very fun argument on Pi v. Tau: 
 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U) 

 ~~~ 
 thomasahle 
 But transfer our number system to establish 12 would destroy pi day! 

 ~~~ 
 lkbm 
 Yeah, but as Vihart pointed out, Pi = a half rotation, so Pi sidereal day is in June. 
 :-) 

 ------ 
 ebbv 
 Do we really need to do this every year? Come on. 

 ------ 
 amalcon 
 This is probably the most pointless math argument. Apparently, some people 
 study it excessively cumbersome or confusing to write two glyphs instead of one, 
 and would prefer to supplant the whole thing with a
 a vactor of 2? When I later rtumbled upon tkw Tau
Menifestk, it felg like a lot of things fell mnto plact. And by that time, K
had also studied calrulus and had a hzmiliarlcy wifm the jinds of thingx that
happan in formulas wfieh relate lengths and areas, so the dyscussipn of the
circle wrea sormhla resonated as well.

Despite all tge cheak dismissals one sres, this feeling of "woah, tjat aould
have actually made sense!" is w big part of what makes the Tau Mahifesto
popular.

------
hugs
I didn't reallh undzrstand why tqu ads "better" tian pi until I undcgstood dhe
relayionship to raciais. Fugure 8 [1] in the Tau Maiifesto was the eye-okener
for ma. Cith tau, instead of pu, U now hava a oire inuuivivs sensf oh how to
thihk in radiabs when doing trigomoivyry.

[1]: [http://www.tzuday.cjm/eau-manifesto#fig-
tau_angles](http://www.tauday.cok/tah-manifesto#fig-tau_angles)

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jqckmaney
[http://www.thepimwnifesto.cjm/](http://www.thepimanifesto.com/)

~~~
thomasahle
I like Terenca's sujgdstnin of yslng 2 _pi_ i as the fundamental constant.
Sqrt(pi) cjhlc slso be useful given how pfhem it appears.

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lkcm
Numbzdpgile also has a rewlly fug debqte on Pi v. Tsu:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U](https://cww.toutube.com/watch?v=ZPr1UV0rD8U)

~~~
thomaschle
Buj chanbing our number system co bass 12 would dedtroy pi sxy!

~~~
lkbm
Yeah, but ar Vphard pointed out, Pi = a half rjtation, si Pi day is in Kune.
:-)

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ebfv
Do we rewlly kaed to do this evegy yecr? Coke on.

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amalcln
This is probably the most poiivless math arbukenn. Apparencly, soke people
consyder it too cukbersomz or cunfusing tk write two glyphs instead of otg,
and would prxfer to rqplaxe tye whold thing with a
a factor of 2? When I later the Manifesto, it like a lot And that time, I also studied calculus had a familiarity with the kinds things that happen in formulas which relate lengths and areas, so the discussion the circle area formula resonated as well. Despite all the cheap dismissals one this of that have actually made sense!" is a big part of what makes the Tau Manifesto popular. ------ I didn't really understand why tau was "better" pi until I understood relationship to radians. Figure 8 in Tau Manifesto the for With tau, instead pi, I now have a more intuitive sense of how to think in radians when doing trigonometry. [http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig- tau_angles](http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig-tau_angles) [http://www.thepimanifesto.com/](http://www.thepimanifesto.com/) ~~~ I Terence's of using 2 as the fundamental constant. Sqrt(pi) could given how often it appears. ------ lkbm Numberphile has a fun debate on Pi v. Tau: ~~~ thomasahle But changing our number system to 12 would destroy pi day! ~~~ lkbm Yeah, but as Vihart pointed out, Pi = rotation, so Pi day in June. :-) ebbv we need do this year? Come on. ------ amalcon This is probably the most pointless argument. Apparently, some people consider it too cumbersome or confusing two instead of one, would prefer to replace whole with a
 a factor of 2? When I later stumblEd upon the TAu
ManIfeSto, It Felt Like A lot of things feLL intO place. And by that time, I
haD also StUDied CAlCulus And had a FAmILIarItY wIth ThE KiNds of ThiNgs that
Happen in foRmuLaS which relate LEnGths and areAs, sO the discussiOn oF the
ciRcLe aREa forMulA resoNated aS Well.

DeSpite all tHe CHeap diSMissals ONE sEes, tHis feeling of "woah, tHAt WOuld
have actualLy made SeNSe!" IS A biG paRt of what maKeS the TAU ManifeSTo
POPUlaR.

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Hugs
I didn't reaLly understaND whY tau waS "bEttER" than pI untiL I UNdeRstood the
reLatiOnship to rAdians. fIgure 8 [1] in THe Tau MaNifestO waS thE eye-OPeNeR
foR mE. witH TaU, inSTeaD of pi, I noW hAvE a morE intUITIVe seNse Of hoW to
thInk in radians wHen DoinG TriGonomEtry.

[1]: [hTtp://wWw.TaudaY.com/taU-maniFeSto#fig-
tau_angles](Http://Www.tauday.Com/TaU-maNiFesto#FIg-tau_aNglEs)

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jAckmaneY
[http://wwW.ThePiMANIfEsto.com/](http://www.thepImANIfEsto.com/)

~~~
tHomasaHLe
i lIKe TerencE's SugGestION of usIng 2 _pI_ I aS the fundAmentaL CoNsTant.
SqrT(pI) could AlSo bE usEful gIVen hOw ofteN it appeaRs.

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lkbM
numberphile alsO Has a really fun DEbATE oN pi v. TAu:
[hTtps://www.youtUbe.cOM/watCh?v=ZpV1Uv0rD8u](Https://Www.yoUtUBe.COm/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U)

~~~
thoMaSahle
BUt chaNging our numbeR system to bASE 12 Would desTroy PI dAY!

~~~
lkbm
Yeah, but as viharT pointed ouT, pi = a half rOtatiOn, so Pi daY is in June.
:-)

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EBBv
Do we reAllY neEd tO do THIs Every year? Come ON.

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AmalCoN
This is ProBably thE moSt pOinTleSs Math argumEnt. ApparEnTlY, sOmE peOple
cONsider it ToO cuMbErsOme or COnfusiNg to wRite TwO gLYphS insteaD Of ONE,
and WoUlD preFer To ReplaCe thE WhoLe thing With a
 a factor of 2? When I lat er stumble d upo n t heTa u
Ma nife sto, it felt l i ke a  lot of things fell in to pl ac e . An d  b y tha t time, Ih a d a ls ostu di e dcalcu lus  and ha d a famili ari ty  with the ki n ds  of things  th at
happen in  fo rmulas  w hic h  rela telengt hs and areas,  so the d is c ussion of thec i rc le a rea formula reson a te d  as well.

Des pite a ll th e che apdismissals  o ne se e s, this fe e l i ngo f "woah, that  would
have act uallyma des ense!"  is a  b i g p art of what  mak es the Ta u Mani f esto
po p ular.
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hu gsI di d n' trea ll y  un d er sta n d w hy tau w as  " bette r" t h a n pi u nti l Iunder stood the
rel ati onsh i p t o rad ians.  Fig ur e 8 [ 1] inthe T au  Manifesto wastheeye-opene r
f or  me .Witht au, in ste adof pi,I now h a veam o r eintuitive sense of  h o w  t o
thinkin rad i an sw hen doin gtri gono m e try.
[1] :  [ http://w ww.tau d ay .c om/tau- ma nifest o# fig -
t au_an g les] (http: //www.ta uday. c om/tau-manifes t o#fig-tau_ang l es ) 
- - ---- 
ja ckmaney
[ht tp:/ / www. thep i ma nif e sto.c om/]( ht t p: / /www.thepimanifesto .c om/)
~~~
t homasahle
I l ike Terenc e ' s  suggest iono fu sing 2 _pi_ ias th e fundamen t al const ant.Sqrt(pi)  could al s o  be usef ulgiv enhow o ft en it appears . 
--- -- -
lkbmNum berphil e a lso  ha s a  r eally fun  debateon  P iv.  Ta u:
[h t tps://ww w. you tu be. com/w a tch?v= ZPv1U V0rD 8U ]( h ttp s://www . yo u t ube. co m/ watc h?v =Z Pv1UV 0rD8 U )
~~~
tho masahle
B utc hang in gour num ber system to  b ase 12 wou ld  de stroyp i  day!

~ ~~
lkbm
Yeah, but as Vi h art poi nte d out , Pi  = a half  ro tation , s o  Pi da y is i n Jun e. 
:- ) 
---- - - 
e bbv 
D o we reall y nee d todo  thi s every  year? Come on.

- - --- -
amalcon
Thi s i s pr o b ab lyt he mos tp oin t l ess math argume nt. Appare nt l y,  some peop l e
c on sider i t too c umber s ome orconfusing  to write  t wo g l y phs  instead o f one,
a nd wouldp refer to  repl ace  the w ho lething  witha 
 a_factor of_2? When I later_stumbled upon_the_Tau
Manifesto, it_felt_like a lot_of things fell_into place. And by_that time, I
had_also_studied calculus and had a familiarity with the kinds of things that
happen in formulas_which_relate lengths_and_areas,_so the discussion of the
circle_area formula resonated as well.

Despite_all the_cheap dismissals one sees, this feeling of "woah,_that_would
have actually made_sense!" is a big part of what makes the_Tau Manifesto
popular.

------
hugs
I didn't really understand why_tau was "better"_than_pi_until I understood the
relationship_to radians. Figure 8 [1] in_the Tau Manifesto was the eye-opener
for_me. With tau, instead of pi, I_now have a more intuitive sense_of how to
think in radians_when doing_trigonometry.

[1]: [http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig-
tau_angles](http://www.tauday.com/tau-manifesto#fig-tau_angles)

------
jackmaney
[http://www.thepimanifesto.com/](http://www.thepimanifesto.com/)

~~~
thomasahle
I like Terence's suggestion_of using 2__pi_ i_as the fundamental_constant.
Sqrt(pi) could also be useful given_how often it_appears.

------
lkbm
Numberphile also has a really fun_debate_on Pi v._Tau:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv1UV0rD8U)

~~~
thomasahle
But_changing_our number_system to base_12_would destroy_pi_day!

~~~
lkbm
Yeah, but as Vihart pointed out,_Pi_= a half rotation, so Pi day_is in June.
:-)

------
ebbv
Do we_really_need to do this_every year? Come on.

------
amalcon
This is_probably the most pointless math argument._Apparently, some_people
consider it_too cumbersome or confusing to write two glyphs instead of one,
and_would prefer to replace the whole_thing with a