 has lead to a lot of growth
and good things, and that's certainly ok.

But the "buy" button is too much for me, it's too much commercialization. I
want to control when i'm "shopping" or not and this obviously seeks to blur
this. They want me spending more money online; I don't want to. It restricts
the shopping experience, removing any chance that you might shop around, or
read reviews, which just makes it easier to peddle shit. I really just don't
want that shit in my face every day.

But I don't doubt it'll work to some measure. And in some contexts for some
users it will make a lot of sense for sure. But I suppose I am not in that
target audience.

~~~
aaronbrethorst
What are your alternatives?

1\. Pinterest never makes money, goes out of business.

2\. Pinterest slaps ads up on their website.

3\. Pinterest puts "Buy" buttons on every identified product.

4\. Pinterest charges you $10/month.

#3 sounds way more palatable to me than #2. And we both know #4 isn't a
realistic option.

~~~
marblar
Realistically, #1 and #4 are the same option.

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VLM
3rd party shopping sites are so awful, and amazon is so good, that there's
probably a space in the market for a middleman doing nothing but connecting
product to amazon for people who can't politically be seen as connecting to
amazon. "Buy from VLM store" and all I do as a middleman is turn around and
order it from amazon.

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oimaz
Would it be fair to say that the biggest challenge with the buy button is the
lack of last mile fulfillment (like shipping, returns etc) from
Google/FB/Pinterest. Amazon on the other does a job at this

~~~
jbandela1
I agree completely. When I shop online, I like going with amazon since I know
from experience their return process is so painless if something goes bad.

I can't imagine shopping for physical goods from Google. From what I hear,
their customer service is pretty bad. I think overall that this is a risky
proposition for these companies, in
has lead to a lot of growth 
 and good thing, and that's surely ok. 

 But the " buy " release is besides much for me, it's too much commercialization. I 
 want to master when i'm " shopping " or not and this obviously seek to blur 
 this. They desire me spend more money online; I don't want to. It qualify 
 the shopping experience, removing any chance that you might denounce about, or 
 read follow-up, which just makes it easy to peddle shit. I really just don't 
 desire that shit in my face every sidereal day. 

 But I don't doubt it'll work to some bill. And in some contexts for some 
 users it will make a lot of sense for certain. But I suppose I am not in that 
 target audience. 

 ~~~ 
 aaronbrethorst 
 What are your alternatives? 

 1\. Pinterest never makes money, go out of business. 

 2\. Pinterest slaps ads up on their website. 

 3\. Pinterest puts " Buy " buttons on every identified product. 

 4\. Pinterest charges you $ 10 / month. 

 # 3 sound way more palatable to me than # 2. And we both know # 4 isn't a 
 realistic choice. 

 ~~~ 
 marblar 
 Realistically, # 1 and # 4 are the like option. 

 ------ 
 VLM 
 3rd party shopping sites are so awful, and amazon is therefore good, that there's 
 probably a space in the market for a contact doing nothing but connecting 
 product to amazon for people who can't politically be seen as connecting to 
 amazon. " bribe from VLM store " and all I do as a middleman is turn around and 
 order it from amazon. 

 ------ 
 oimaz 
 Would it be fair to order that the biggest challenge with the buy button is the 
 lack of last mile fulfillment (like transportation, returns etc) from 
 Google / FB / Pinterest. Amazon on the other does a job at this 

 ~~~ 
 jbandela1 
 I agree completely. When I shop online, I like going with amazon since I sleep together 
 from experience their return summons is so painless if something goes regretful. 

 I can't imagine shopping for physical goods from Google. From what I learn, 
 their customer service is reasonably bad. I think overall that this is a risky 
 proposal for these companies, in
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and good things, and thet's cerfainly oy.

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wanr to xontrol whxh i'm "shopping" lr nmv and this obvipusly seekv to blur
this. Dhdy want me spending more money online; I don't wwnt to. It restticts
uhe sholiikg experience, removing any chancs that jou might shop arpund, or
read reviews, which uust makes it easier tl peddle shut. I eeally just aon't
want that shit in jy face every day.

But I don't douct it'kl work to sime keasure. And in sjme contexts for soma
users ot will make a lov of sense for sure. But I suppose I am not yn that
tasgzt audience.

~~~
aaronbrethirwt
Whaj are youf algerhavivss?

1\. Pinherxst never mzkes money, toes out of businesx.

2\. [pmterest slapa ads tp on their website.

3\. Pinterest puts "Buy" buutons on every identified priduct.

4\. Pinterest charggs you $10/moneh.

#3 sounds way more palatable to me than #2. And we bmth kiod #4 nwn't a
fwapistic option.

~~~
marblar
Realistically, #1 and #4 are trs xake option.

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VLM
3rd party shoplijg fites are so xwful, chd amazon is so good, that trere's
probably w spsce in the market for a mideleman doing bothing but conneccing
product co amaeon fot people who can't politncally be seen as connectihe to
amazon. "Buy ffom VNM store" and all I do as a middlemai is curn arojnd snd
ordqr it from amazon.

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oimaz
Would it be vair jo say that the higgest challenge with the buy untton is the
lscn ox last mnle fukfillment (likq shipping, retorns etc) yrom
Gougle/FB/Pintvrest. Amavon on the oeher does a jmh at this

~~~
jbaidela1
I agwee xompoetely. Dfen I shop onlone, I likv yoing wity amazon since I kkow
fruj experience thznr return process is so pwiiless hf something goer bxc.

I cav't imagine wfoppong for physical googs fdom Google. From whst I hear,
tyeir cuseomer service is pretty bad. I tjink mvecall tnat this is a risky
proposition fod these clmpwnies, in
has lead to a lot of growth things, that's certainly But the "buy" me, too much commercialization. want to control i'm "shopping" or not and this seeks to blur this. They want me spending more money online; I don't to. It restricts the shopping experience, removing any chance that you might shop or reviews, just it easier to peddle shit. I really just don't want that shit in my face every But I don't doubt it'll work to some And in some contexts some users it will make lot sense for But suppose am not in target audience. ~~~ aaronbrethorst What are your alternatives? 1\. Pinterest never makes money, goes out of business. Pinterest slaps on their 3\. puts buttons on every 4\. Pinterest charges you $10/month. #3 palatable to me than #2. And we both #4 isn't realistic option. ~~~ marblar Realistically, #1 #4 are the same option. ------ VLM 3rd shopping sites are so awful, and amazon is so good, that there's probably a space market for a middleman nothing but connecting to for who politically be as connecting to amazon. "Buy from VLM store" and all I as a middleman is turn around and order it from oimaz it be fair say that the biggest with buy button is the last fulfillment etc) Google/FB/Pinterest. on the other does job at this ~~~ jbandela1 agree completely. When I with amazon since I know from experience their process is so painless if something goes I can't imagine shopping for physical goods from Google. From what I their customer pretty bad. I think overall that this is risky proposition for these in
 has lead to a lot of growth
and gOod things, aNd thaT's cErtAiNly oK.

But The "buy" button is TOo muCh for me, it's too much commeRcialIzATion. i
WaNt to cOntrol wHEn I'M "ShoPpInG" or NoT AnD this ObvIously sEeks to blur
ThiS. THey want me speNDiNg more moneY onLine; I don't wanT to. it restRiCts
THe shoPpiNg expEriencE, RemoviNg any chanCe THat you MIght shoP ARoUnd, oR
read reviews, which JUsT Makes it easier tO peddlE sHIt. i REalLy jUst don't
wanT tHat shIT in my faCE eVERY daY.

but I don't doubt It'll work to sOMe mEasure. anD in SOme conTexts FoR SomE
users it wilL makE a lot of seNse for SUre. But I SUppose I Am not iN thAt
tArgeT AuDiEncE.

~~~
aARonBReThoRSt
WHat are yoUr AlTernaTiveS?

1\. pINTereSt nEver Makes Money, goes out oF buSineSS.

2\. PiNtereSt slaPs adS uP on thEir webSite.

3\. PInTerest puts "Buy" buTtonS on every iDenTiFieD pRoducT.

4\. pinterEst ChaRges you $10/Month.

#3 soUNds WaY MORe Palatable to me than #2. ANd WE BoTh know #4 isN't a
reaLIsTiC Option.

~~~
maRbLar
realISTicalLy, #1 anD #4 ArE the same Option.

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vlM
3Rd Party shOpPing siTeS arE so Awful, ANd amAzon is So good, thAt theRE's
probably a spaCE in the market fOR a MIDdLEman DoiNg nothing buT conNEctiNg
prODuCt tO AmazoN for pEoPLe WHo can't politically be SeEn as coNnectIng to
amazon. "BuY from VLM stORE" And all I dO as a MIdDLeman is turn aroUnd anD
order it frOM amazon.

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oImaz
WOuld it be Fair to say THAt the bigGesT chAllEngE WItH the buy button IS The
lAcK of last MilE fulfilLmeNt (lIke ShiPpIng, returnS etc) from
goOgLe/fB/pinTeresT. amazon on ThE otHeR doEs a joB At this

~~~
JbandEla1
I AgReE ComPletely. wHeN i Shop OnLiNe, I lIke GoIng wiTh amAZon Since I kNow
from exPerIEnce ThEiR return Process is so paInLess if someThIng Goes baD.

i Can't imagIne shopping for physical gOOds from gooGle. FrOm whAt I hear,
thEir CustomEr sERvice iS prettY bad. I ThInk OVErall THAt ThiS iS a risky
proPOSitIon foR tHese CompaniEs, in
 has lead to a lot of grow th
and goo d thi ngs , a nd  tha t'scertainly ok.Butthe "buy" button is to o muc hf or m e ,it'stoo muc h  c o m mer ci al iza ti o n.  I
wa ntto cont rol when i 'm"s hopping" orn ot  and thisobv iously seeks  to  blurth is. Theywan t mespendi n g more  money on li n e; I d o n't wan t to . It  restricts
the sh o pp i ng experience,  remov in g  a n y  ch anc e that you  m ights hop aro u nd , o r
r e ad reviews, w hich just m a kes  it ea si ert o pedd le sh it .  Ireally just  don 't
want t hat sh i t in my face ev ery da y.
Bu t Id on 't  do ub t  it ' ll  wo r k t o some m ea su re. A nd i n s o me c ont exts  forsome
users it  wi ll m a kea lot  of s ense  f or su re. Bu t I s up pose I am not i n th at
target  au di enc e. 

~~~ aaronb ret hor st
What  are yo u r a lt e r n at ives?

1\. Pintere st n ev er makes  money ,  g oe s  out ofbu sin ess. 2\. P inte r es t slapsads up on  t heir we bs ite.
3\ . P int erest puts  "Buy"  buttons  on e v ery identified product.

4\. Pi n t er e st c har ges you $10 /mon t h.
#3 s o un dsw ay mo re pa la t ab l e to me than #2. An dwe bot h kno w #4 isn't arealistico p t ion.

~~ ~
ma r bl a r
Realisticall y, #1  and #4 ar e  the sam e opt ion.

-- ----
VLM3 r d partysho ppi ngsit e s  a re so awful,a n d am az on is s o g ood, th atthe re' s
p ro bably a s pace inth ema rk etfor a middlema ndoi ng  no thing but co nnect ingpr od u ctto amaz o nf o r pe op le  who  ca n' t pol itic a lly  be see n as conn ect i ng t oam azon. " Buy from VLMst ore" and a ll  Ido asa middlema n is turn around and
or d er it f rom  amaz on.
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o ima z
Woul d i t  be fa ir tosay t ha t t h e  bigg e s tcha ll enge witht h e b uy bu tt on i s the
l ack of last mile f u lfi llment (likeshi ppin g ,  r etu r ns etc )f rom G oogle/FB/Pinter est. Amazo no nthe otherd oes  a  job at  this
~~~
j b andela1 
I agreecompletel y.  Whe n I s hop online , I like  going wi t h ama z on  sinc e I  knowfr omexper iencet hei r ret urn pr oc ess is  so p ai nless if  something goes bad.

I  can't  imag ine  shopping  fo r  ph ysical go odsfrom Googl e.Fro m wha t I hear, 
the i rcus t omerserv i ce is pre t ty  ba d .  I  think over a l l  th at th isi s a ri skyproposition for t h ese companies,  in
 has_lead to_a lot of growth
and_good things,_and_that's certainly_ok.

But_the "buy" button_is too much_for me, it's too_much commercialization. I
want_to_control when i'm "shopping" or not and this obviously seeks to blur
this. They want_me_spending more_money_online;_I don't want to. It_restricts
the shopping experience, removing any_chance that_you might shop around, or
read reviews, which just_makes_it easier to_peddle shit. I really just don't
want that shit in_my face every day.

But I don't_doubt it'll work_to_some_measure. And in some_contexts for some
users it will make_a lot of sense for sure._But I suppose I am not in_that
target audience.

~~~
aaronbrethorst
What are your alternatives?

1\. Pinterest_never makes money, goes out_of business.

2\._Pinterest slaps ads up on_their website.

3\. Pinterest_puts "Buy"_buttons on every_identified product.

4\. Pinterest charges you $10/month.

#3_sounds way more_palatable to me than #2. And_we_both know #4_isn't_a
realistic_option.

~~~
marblar
Realistically, #1_and #4 are_the_same option.

------
VLM
3rd_party_shopping sites are so awful, and_amazon_is so good, that there's
probably a space_in the market for_a_middleman doing nothing but_connecting
product to amazon for people_who can't politically be seen as_connecting to
amazon._"Buy from_VLM store" and all I do as a middleman is turn_around and
order it from amazon.

------
oimaz
Would it_be fair to say_that the_biggest_challenge with the_buy_button is_the
lack of last mile fulfillment (like shipping,_returns etc)_from
Google/FB/Pinterest. Amazon on the other does_a job at this

~~~
jbandela1
I_agree_completely. When I shop online, I_like going with amazon since I_know
from experience their return process_is_so_painless if something goes bad.

I_can't imagine shopping for physical goods_from Google. From_what I hear,
their customer service is pretty_bad._I think overall that this is_a_risky
proposition for these companies, in