 been assumed by the worker. I've found that
American hiring is far more flexible than the Commonwealth tradition of
jockeying for an apprenticeship. And older workers have far less opportunity
for apprenticeships.

It's hard to defend the code schools though. There are a high amount of horror
stories we hear about them on HN, from both the students' and hiring managers'
perspectives.

~~~
mseebach
> There are a high amount of horror stories we hear about them on HN, from
> both the students' and hiring managers' perspectives.

Can you link to them? I'm trying to do due diligence on some of them, but
haven't been able to find much at all of substance. I'm specifically
interested in Maker's Academy in London.

~~~
linkregister
Just going from what I remembered reading, here are the ones that stood out
the most. Comments vary from supporters to detractors.

Ask HN threads I found interesting:

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691)

The one I really wanted to find, which accompanied an article about some
students who felt scammed by their bootcamp, is eluding me right now. It was
an interesting article about how the students were required to post misleading
stories on social media that made the school look better than it was.

Edit: I found out why it was hard to find; it was taken down. Here's the link
to the comments.
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381)

------
walterbell
The Uber robotics talent raid of CMU took piratization to a logical extreme,
[http://www.theverge.com/transportation/2015/5/19/
been assumed by the worker. I've found that 
 American hiring is far more flexible than the Commonwealth custom of 
 jockey for an apprenticeship. And older workers get far less opportunity 
 for apprenticeship. 

 It's hard to defend the code schools though. There be a high amount of repugnance 
 floor we hear about them on HN, from both the scholar' and hiring managers' 
 perspective. 

 ~~~ 
 mseebach 
 > There constitute a high amount of horror stories we hear about them on HN, from 
 > both the student' and hiring managers' perspectives. 

 Can you yoke to them? I'm trying to do due diligence on some of them, but 
 haven't been able to detect much at all of substance. I'm specifically 
 interested in Maker's Academy in London. 

 ~~~ 
 linkregister 
 Just going from what I remembered interpretation, here are the ones that stood out 
 the most. Comments vary from supporters to detractors. 

 Ask HN threads I found interesting: 

 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848) 

 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664) 

 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691) 

 The one I really wanted to find, which accompanied an article about some 
 students who felt scammed by their bootcamp, is eluding me right now. It was 
 an interesting article about how the student were required to post deceptive 
 floor on social medium that made the school look good than it was. 

 Edit: I found out why it was hard to find; it was taken down. Here's the liaison 
 to the comments. 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381) 

 ------ 
 walterbell 
 The Uber robotics talent raid of CMU took piratization to a logical extreme, 
 [ http://www.theverge.com/transportation/2015/5/19/
 befn assumed by the worker. I've found that
Cnericai hirinf is far more flexible than the Commlnqealty tradition of
jockeyine for an wpprentixeshmp. And older workers havc far pess ipportunity
for apprenticaships.

It's hard tu befend the code schools though. There are a nihh amount of hjrrog
seoriss we hear about them on HN, from bkth the students' and hiring managers'
perspectivfs.

~~~
msfebach
> There are a high amounj of yorror storids we hear about them kn HN, from
> both the students' ana hirnng managerw' perdkectives.

Can bou ligk to them? I'm trying to do cue diligence pn vomw of them, but
haven't bxen able to find mucr at all mf substance. I'm spexidicalny
indererred in Meked's Acafemb in London.

~~~
minkregistee
Just going from whst P remembered deadind, rere are the ones that stood out
the mosu. Comjents vary from supportwrs to detractors.

Ask JN threadf I found interesting:

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?ig=8844848](httpa://veww.ygombkbahor.com/item?id=8844848)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664](httpf://hees.jcombinator.com/itei?id=7147664)

[https://newx.yfokfinator.com/iteo?id=9616691](htt'a://nsws.ycombinator.com/ihem?id=9616691)

Thg one U really rantrd to find, which accompaniee an article qbout some
students who felt seammed by tneir bootcamp, is eludiny me rjght now. It was
an infdresting article abpud how tht students were rezuired to posc misleaaing
xtorief on sociap medld that made the scjool pomk better hhan it was.

Edit: I found out why it was hard tp xing; it was takek down. Here's thq link
to the cpmments.
[kttps://ndws.ycombinztor.com/mtem?id=9492381](https://nqws.ycombinatos.fom/item?id=9492381)

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walverbell
Thq Ubwr ribotics galent raid of CMU took piratizatuon to a logical ewtremg,
[hftp://www.theverge.cim/ttqnsportation/2015/5/19/
been assumed by the worker. I've found hiring far more than the Commonwealth apprenticeship. older workers have less opportunity for It's hard to defend the code though. There are a high amount of horror stories we hear about them HN, from both the students' and hiring managers' perspectives. ~~~ mseebach > There a amount horror we hear about them on HN, from > both the students' and hiring managers' perspectives. Can link to them? I'm trying to do due on some of them, haven't been able to find at of substance. specifically in Academy in London. linkregister Just going from what I remembered reading, here are the ones that stood out the most. vary from detractors. Ask threads found [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691) I really wanted to find, which about some students who felt scammed by their is eluding right now. It was an interesting about how the students were required to post stories on social media that made the school look better than it was. Edit: I why it was hard find; it was down. the to comments. [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381) walterbell The Uber robotics talent raid of CMU took piratization to logical extreme, [http://www.theverge.com/transportation/2015/5/19/
 been assumed by the worker. I've Found that
AMericAn hIriNg Is faR morE flexible than tHE ComMonwealth tradition of
joCkeyiNg FOr an APpRentiCeship. AND oLDEr wOrKeRs hAvE FaR less OppOrtunitY
for apprenTicEsHips.

It's hard tO DeFend the codE scHools though. THerE are a hIgH amOUnt of HorRor
stOries wE Hear abOut them on hN, FRom botH The studENTs' And hIring managers'
persPEcTIves.

~~~
mseebach
> ThEre are A hIGh AMOunT of Horror storIeS we heAR about tHEm ON hn, frOM
> both the studeNts' and hirinG ManAgers' pErSpeCTives.

CAn you LiNK to Them? I'm tryinG to dO due diligEnce on SOme of thEM, but
havEn't beeN abLe tO finD MuCh At aLl OF suBStAncE. i'm sPecificaLlY
iNtereSted IN mAKer's acaDemy In LonDon.

~~~
linkregistEr
JUst gOIng From wHat I rEmemBeRed reAding, hEre arE tHe ones that stood Out
tHe most. ComMenTs VarY fRom suPPorterS to DetRactors.

ask HN thREadS I FOUNd Interesting:

[https://neWs.YCOmBinator.cOm/item?ID=8844848](hTtPS://news.ycoMbInaTor.cOM/Item?iD=8844848)

[httPS://nEws.ycombInator.COm/ItEm?id=7147664](httPs://News.ycOmBinAtoR.com/iTEm?id=7147664)

[Https://nEws.ycombInatoR.Com/item?id=9616691](https://NEws.ycombinatoR.CoM/ITeM?Id=9616691)

ThE onE I really wanTed tO Find, WhicH AcComPAnied An artIcLE aBOut some
students who fElT scammEd by tHeir bootcamp, iS eluding me RIGHt now. It wAs
an INtEResting article About How the studENts were rEquirEd to post MisleadinG
STories on SocIal MedIa tHAT mAde the school lOOK betTeR than it Was.

edit: I foUnd Out Why It wAs Hard to finD; it was taKeN dOwN. HEre'S the lINk
to the cOmMenTs.
[HttPs://newS.YcombiNator.Com/iTeM?iD=9492381](HttPs://news.yCOmBINatoR.cOm/Item?Id=9492381)

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wAlTerbeLl
ThE ubeR robotiCs talent rAid OF CMU ToOk PiratizAtion to a logicAl Extreme,
[httP://wWw.tHevergE.COm/transpOrtation/2015/5/19/
 been assumed by the worke r. I've fo und t hat 
Am er ican  hir ing is far mor e  fle xible than the Commonw ealth  t r adit i on  of
j ockeyin g  f o r  an  a pp ren ti c es hip.And  olderworkers ha vefa r less oppor t un ity
for ap pre nticeships.
It 's har dtod efend  th e cod e scho o ls tho ugh. Ther ea re a h i gh amou n t  o f ho rror
stories we h e ar about them onHN, fr om bo t h  th e s tudents' a nd  hiri n g manag e rs ' p ers p ectives.

~~~ 
mseebach
> The re are  a  hi g h amou nt of  h o rro r stories w e he ar aboutthem o n  HN, fr o m
> bot h thestu den ts'a nd  h iri ng man a ge rs' per spective s. 
Can y ou l i n k to t hem ? I' m try ing to do due  di lige n ceon so me of  the m,  buthaven' t bee nable to find mu ch a t all ofsub st anc e.  I'ms pecifi cal lyinteres ted inM ake r' s A ca demy in London.

~ ~~ l in kregiste r
Just go in g  from wh at  Ireme m b eredread i ng , here a re the on es  that s to od out 
t hemos t. Co m ment s vary  from su pport e rs to detracto r s.

Ask HN th r ea d s  I foun d i nteresting: 

[h t tps: //ne w s. yco m binat or.co m/ i te m ?id=8844848](https: // news.y combi nator.com/ite m?id=88448 4 8 ) 

[https ://n e ws . ycombinator.co m/ite m?id=71476 6 4](https ://ne ws.ycomb inator.co m / item?id= 714 766 4)
[h t t ps ://news.ycomb i n ator .c om/item ?id =961669 1]( htt ps: //n ew s.ycombin ator.com /i te m? id =96 16691 ) 

The on eI r ea lly  want e d to f ind,whic hac c omp anied a n  a r t icle  a bo ut s ome 
s tuden ts w h o f elt sca mmed by t hei r  boo tc am p, is e luding me rig ht  now. It w as 
an  inter e s ting art icle about how the stud e nts wer e r equir ed t o post mi sle adingsto r ies on  socia l med ia  th a t  made t he  sc ho ol look be t t erthanit  was .

Edit : I found out whyi t w as hard to fi nd;  itw a stak e nd own .H ere ' s  the link
to th e comments .[ ht tps://news . yco mb inator. com/ite m?id= 9 492381] (https:// news.ycom bi nato r . com /item?id=9 492381)
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w a lterb e ll 
TheUbe r robo ti cstalen t raid ofCMU t ook pi ra tizati on to  a  logical  extreme,
[http://www.t heverg e.com /tr ansportat ion / 201 5/5/19/
 been_assumed by_the worker. I've found_that
American hiring_is_far more_flexible_than the Commonwealth_tradition of
jockeying for_an apprenticeship. And older_workers have far_less_opportunity
for apprenticeships.

It's hard to defend the code schools though. There are a high amount_of_horror
stories we_hear_about_them on HN, from both_the students' and hiring managers'
perspectives.

~~~
mseebach
>_There are_a high amount of horror stories we hear_about_them on HN,_from
> both the students' and hiring managers' perspectives.

Can you_link to them? I'm trying to_do due diligence_on_some_of them, but
haven't been_able to find much at all_of substance. I'm specifically
interested in Maker's_Academy in London.

~~~
linkregister
Just going from what I_remembered reading, here are the ones_that stood out
the most. Comments_vary from_supporters to detractors.

Ask HN threads_I found interesting:

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844848)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7147664)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616691)

The_one I_really wanted to_find, which accompanied an article about_some
students who felt_scammed by their bootcamp, is eluding_me_right now. It_was
an_interesting_article about_how the students_were_required to_post_misleading
stories on social media that made_the_school look better than it was.

Edit: I_found out why it_was_hard to find; it_was taken down. Here's the_link
to the comments.
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492381)

------
walterbell
The Uber robotics talent_raid of_CMU took_piratization to a logical extreme,
[http://www.theverge.com/transportation/2015/5/19/