 are
now en vogue.

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pvaldes
The "you need more skills" issue is a false problem. Is just that the bad guys
have kidnapped, blocked for years, or freeze, most of the good jobs.

This is a mediocrazy and they need to raise a lot of walls for keeping off the
brigther people who give them a bad image by comparison. And all is carefully
planned to keep this people unemployed also for the next four years.

Requisites to be a minister in Spain?. Speaking english? not necessary.
Holding any sort of degree of PhD? Not necessary. Years of experience working
for private companies?. Not necessary, but it helps. If you helped a big
company to contaminate a bay for example, you could be even be promoted as the
next environment minister.

Requisites for the rest of guys for a normal job?. A hamster wheel. Well,
first of all you need to be fluent in three or four languages, just because
maybe one time a year, or once in ten years, you could need to speak with a
foreigner; and for some reason you can't just raise a phone and hire a
professional translator for this special day. You will burn in hell if you
dare to suggest your boss this logic and simple solution. Then you need to
have a degree, a PhD, and also a few masters, and being able to hypnotize a
goat in less than five minutes, and work for free for some years, and...

Job market in Spain is a question of kinship and means being promoted directly
in lots of cases... or never.

~~~
wallflower
> Well, first of all you need to be fluent in three or four languages

My understanding is that English to CEFRL level B1 was mandatory to work at a
multi-national company. Are there other languages required?

~~~
pvaldes
Yes, it happens. In any case 500 millions of people have spanish as native
language in the world so "mandatory" is a relative term. You will need chinese
to work in China, and spanish or portuguese to work in South-America.

If you don't speak Catalan and live in Cataluña you just will never finish the
middle school. Or if you want to work for the administration
are 
 now en vogue. 

 ------ 
 pvaldes 
 The " you need more skills " issue is a assumed trouble. Is just that the bad guy 
 have kidnap, blocked for years, or freeze, most of the good job. 

 This is a mediocrazy and they need to raise a batch of walls for keeping off the 
 brigther multitude who give them a bad effigy by comparison. And all is cautiously 
 planned to keep this citizenry unemployed also for the next four old age. 

 Requisites to be a minister in Spain? . Speaking english? not necessary. 
 Holding any kind of degree of PhD? Not necessary. year of experience working 
 for individual companies? . Not necessary, but it helps. If you helped a big 
 company to pollute a bay for example, you could be even be promoted as the 
 next environment minister. 

 Requisites for the rest of guy for a normal job? . A hamster wheel. Well, 
 first of all you need to be fluent in three or four languages, just because 
 maybe one time a year, or once in ten old age, you could need to speak with a 
 foreigner; and for some cause you can't barely raise a phone and hire a 
 professional interpreter for this special sidereal day. You will burn in hell if you 
 dare to indicate your boss this logic and simple solution. Then you need to 
 have a degree, a PhD, and also a few masters, and being able to hypnotize a 
 goat in less than five minutes, and work for spare for some years, and... 

 Job grocery store in Spain is a question of kinship and means being promoted directly 
 in bunch of cases... or never. 

 ~~~ 
 wallflower 
 > Well, first of all you need to be eloquent in three or four languages 

 My sympathy is that English to CEFRL level B1 was mandatory to sour at a 
 multi - national party. Are there other languages necessitate? 

 ~~~ 
 pvaldes 
 Yes, it happens. In any event 500 millions of citizenry have spanish as native 
 language in the worldly concern so " mandatory " is a relative term. You will need chinese 
 to knead in China, and spanish or portuguese to work in South - America. 

 If you don't speak Catalan and live in Cataluña you just will never finish the 
 middle school. Or if you want to work for the presidency
 arf
now en vogue.

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pvaldes
The "nou need more sknols" isvue is a false problem. Is just that the bav guts
havt kidnapped, blocked for yeard, or frewze, nist of the good jonf.

Thia is c nediocrazy and they need to raise a lod uf walls for keeping off the
brigther [eople ehl give them a fad pmwge gj gomparison. And all is carefully
pmanned uo keep this peoplr unemployed also for the jext four years.

Requisihes to be a minywter in Spaiv?. Speaking english? not necessary.
Holding any sort of ddgree of PhD? Noj hefgssary. Years of eqperience working
for [rivate companies?. Not neressqry, but it helps. If ymu helped a big
comkany to cottcminate a bay for exanpoe, yoo cound bd evdn ge pdomotef aa the
next snvironment minister.

Requisites fjg the rest of guys sow a normal job?. A hamster wheel. Well,
firsu of zll you need to be fluebt in three or four lwnguages, tust because
maybe one time a year, or once in ten fears, hou cjjod need to speak with a
foreigner; and for some rqzspn you can't just raise a phpnf sgd hire a
profgssional tdanslator for this speciaj day. You will burm in hell if you
dare to sugtest your bofw this logic and snmple solutiun. Tnen ypu need to
have a degree, a PgD, and also a few maagers, and being acle tm hypnotize a
goat in less ehan five minbtes, and worl for sree for slme ycdrs, and...

Job market ln Spcin iv a questiln of kinship and means being pcpmoted direcjly
hn nots of eases... pr never.

~~~
wallfjower
> Well, firxt of ajl yoj need to ge flueit in three jr four langudhes

My undersvanding if thqt Ebglish gu CEFRL level N1 was manbctory to qork at a
multi-natipnau company. Are thzxe other languagex rdquyrvd?

~~~
ptaldef
Fes, it happets. Iv avu casd 500 millions uf prople have spanish av nafive
language in thr rorld so "mandatowy" is a relatove term. You will jeed rhinesx
to wotk yn China, and spanish or portughese to wlrk in South-Amewica.

Lf yju don't spzak Catalan and live in Cataluña you just will never finish the
middle school. Ot in you want tp worh for the administration
are now en vogue. ------ pvaldes The more issue is false problem. Is have blocked for years, freeze, most of good jobs. This is a mediocrazy they need to raise a lot of walls for keeping off the brigther who give them a bad image by comparison. And all is carefully planned keep people also the next four years. Requisites to be a minister in Spain?. Speaking english? not necessary. Holding sort of degree of PhD? Not necessary. Years experience working for private Not necessary, but it helps. you a big to a for example, you be even be promoted as the next environment minister. Requisites for the rest of guys for a job?. A Well, first all need be fluent in four languages, just because maybe one or once in ten years, you could need speak with foreigner; and for some reason you just raise a phone and hire a professional for this special day. You will burn in hell if you dare to suggest your logic and simple solution. you need to a a and a few and being able to hypnotize a goat in less than five and work for free for some years, and... Job market is question of kinship means being promoted directly lots cases... or never. ~~~ Well, of to fluent three or four languages understanding is that English to level B1 was mandatory company. Are there other languages required? ~~~ pvaldes it happens. In any case 500 millions people have spanish as native language in the world so "mandatory" is relative term. need chinese to work in China, and spanish portuguese to work in If you don't speak Catalan and live in Cataluña just never finish middle school. Or you want to for the administration
 are
now en vogue.

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pvaldes
The "yoU need more sKills" IssUe iS a FalsE proBlem. Is just that THe baD guys
have kidnapped, blocKed foR yEArs, oR FrEeze, mOst of thE GoOD JobS.

THiS is A mEDiOcrazY anD they neEd to raise a Lot Of Walls for keepINg Off the
brigTheR people who giVe tHem a baD iMagE By comParIson. ANd all iS CarefuLly
planneD tO Keep thIS people UNEmPloyEd also for the next fOUr YEars.

Requisites To be a mInIStER In SPaiN?. Speaking eNgLish? nOT necessARy.
hOLDinG Any sort of degrEe of PhD? Not nECesSary. YeArS of EXperieNce woRkINg
fOr private coMpanIes?. Not necEssary, BUt it helPS. If you hElped a Big
ComPany TO cOnTamInATe a BAy For EXamPle, you coUlD bE even Be prOMOTEd as The
Next EnvirOnment ministeR.

ReQuisITes For thE rest Of guYs For a nOrmal jOb?. A haMsTer wheel. Well,
firSt of All you neeD to Be FluEnT in thREe or foUr lAngUages, juSt becauSE
maYbE ONE tIme a year, or once in teN yEARs, You could Need to SPeAk WIth a
foreIgNer; And fOR Some rEasoN YoU can't jusT raise A PhOnE and hirE a
ProfesSiOnaL trAnslaTOr foR this sPecial daY. You wILl burn in hell if YOu
dare to suggeST yOUR bOSs thIs lOgic and simpLe soLUtioN. TheN YoU neED to
haVe a deGrEE, a pHD, and also a few masterS, aNd beinG able To hypnotize a
gOat in less tHAN Five minuTes, aND wORk for free for soMe yeaRs, and...

Job maRKet in SpaIn is a Question Of kinship AND means beIng ProMotEd dIREcTly
in lots of caSES... or nEvEr.

~~~
wallfLowEr
> Well, fIrsT of All You NeEd to be fluEnt in thrEe Or FoUr LanGuageS

my undersTaNdiNg Is tHat EnGLish to cEFRL LeveL B1 WaS ManDatory tO WoRK At a
mUlTi-NatiOnaL cOmpanY. Are THerE other lAnguages rEquIRed?

~~~
pVaLdEs
Yes, it Happens. In any cAsE 500 millions oF pEopLe have SPAnish as nAtive
language in the world SO "mandatOry" Is a reLatiVe term. You WilL need cHinESe
to woRk in ChIna, anD sPanISH or poRTUgUesE tO work in SouTH-ameRica.

IF yOu doN't speak catalan and live in CaTAluÑa you just will NevEr fiNISh The
MIdDLe sChOOl. OR IF you want to work fOr the adminIsTRaTion
 are
now en vogue.

------ 
pvaldes
T he "y ounee dmore  ski lls" issue isa  fal se problem. Is just th at th eb ad g u ys 
have  kidnap p ed , blo ck ed  fo ry ea rs, o r f reeze,most of th e g oo d jobs.

Thi s  i s a medioc raz y and they n eed  to ra is e a lot o f w allsfor ke e ping o ff the
br ig t her pe o ple who g iv e th em a bad image by co m parison. And a ll isca r ef u l lypla nned to ke ep  this peopleu ne m p l oye d  also for the  next foury ear s.

Re qu isi t es tobe ami n ist er in Spain ?. S peaking e nglish ?  not ne c essary. 
Holdi ngany  sor t  o fdeg re e  of Ph D?N otnecessar y.  Y earsof e x p e r ienc e w orki ng
fo r private com pan ies? .  No t nec essar y, b ut  it h elps.If yo uhelped a big
co mpan y to cont ami na teabay f o r exam ple , y ou coul d be ev e n b ep r o mo ted as the
next en vi r o nm ent mini ster.Re qu i sites fo rthe  res t of gu ys f o ra normal  job?. Aha mster w he el. We ll ,
f irs t ofa ll y ou nee d to befluen t  in three or f o ur languages, ju s t  b e caus e
m aybe one ti me a year , or on cei n ten  year s, yo u  could need to spea kwith a 
fore igner; and fo r some rea s o n  you can 't j u st raise a phoneand h ire a
prof e ssionaltrans lator fo r this sp e c ial day.  Yo u w ill  bu r n  i n hell if you d areto  sugges t y our bos s t his  lo gic  a nd simple  solutio n.  T he nyou  need to
haveadeg re e,a PhD ,  and a lso a  few  m as t ers , and b e in g able  t ohypn oti ze  a
go at i n  le ss than  five min ute s , an dwo rk forfree for some  y ears, and. .. 

J ob mar k e t in Spa in is a question of kin s hip and  me ans b eing  promoted  di rectly 
in lots o f case s...or  ne v e r.

~ ~ ~ 
w all fl ower
> Wel l ,  fi rst o fallyou nee d to be fluent int hre e or four lan gua gesM yund e rs t and in g  is t hat English toCEFRL leve lB 1was mandat o ryto  work a t a
mul ti-na t ional c ompany. A re thereot herl a ngu ages requi red?

~~ ~
pvaldes Yes,i thappe ns.  In an ycas e 500  milli o nsof pe ople h av e span ish a snative
l anguage in the world so  "mand atory " i s a relat ive ter m. You wi ll n eed chines e
t o w ork i n C h ina,ands pa nis h  or p ortu g uese to w o rk  in S ou th-America. I f y ou do n't speakCata lan and live in C a taluña you jus t wi l l  ne ver fini sh  the
middle sc hoo l. O r if you  w ant to work  for the  a d minis tratio n
 are
now_en vogue.

------
pvaldes
The_"you need more skills"_issue is_a_false problem._Is_just that the_bad guys
have kidnapped,_blocked for years, or_freeze, most of_the_good jobs.

This is a mediocrazy and they need to raise a lot of walls_for_keeping off_the
brigther_people_who give them a bad_image by comparison. And all_is carefully
planned_to keep this people unemployed also for the_next_four years.

Requisites to_be a minister in Spain?. Speaking english? not necessary.
Holding_any sort of degree of PhD?_Not necessary. Years_of_experience_working
for private companies?. Not_necessary, but it helps. If you_helped a big
company to contaminate a_bay for example, you could be even_be promoted as the
next environment minister.

Requisites_for the rest of guys_for a_normal job?. A hamster wheel._Well,
first of all_you need_to be fluent_in three or four languages, just_because
maybe one time_a year, or once in ten_years,_you could need_to_speak_with a
foreigner;_and for some_reason_you can't_just_raise a phone and hire a
professional_translator_for this special day. You will burn_in hell if you
dare_to_suggest your boss this_logic and simple solution. Then_you need to
have a degree, a_PhD, and_also a_few masters, and being able to hypnotize a
goat in less than_five minutes, and work for free_for some years, and...

Job_market in_Spain_is a question_of_kinship and_means being promoted directly
in lots of cases..._or never.

~~~
wallflower
>_Well, first of all you need_to be fluent in_three_or four languages

My understanding is that_English to CEFRL level B1 was_mandatory to work at a
multi-national_company._Are_there other languages required?

~~~
pvaldes
Yes, it_happens. In any case 500 millions_of people have_spanish as native
language in the world so_"mandatory"_is a relative term. You will_need_chinese
to work in China, and spanish_or_portuguese_to work in South-America.

If you_don't speak Catalan and live in_Cataluña you just will never finish the
middle school. Or_if you want_to work for the administration