perhaps compiled from markdown) with no JS?

The manuals for semantic UI seem to jump strait into integrations with other
frontend frameworks and build tools; but I don't want to use them.

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baby
I use it for small projects/pages just because it looks so good :)
[http://cryptologie.net/links](http://cryptologie.net/links)

but I found it harder to get into compared to bootstrap/foundation.

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nwmcsween
There seems to be some sort of impedance mismatch CSS is _for_ developers give
me.di-bl { display: block; }, make it easy to understand by just looking at
the markup instead of having to having to dig into other files.

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voidhawk
Anyone else find the pages jitter when scrolling? At least on Safari (iPhone)

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ndarilek
As a blind web developer, I want to like Semantic. My usual mode of developing
HTML, once it's at the "I need to make this look good" stage, is "show it to
my girlfriend and ask her various questions." She says things like "I wish X
were a bit larger," or "Y should be blue," and pulling that off in Bootstrap
is challenging. I can drop down to lower-level CSS, but have no clue how my
changes interact with Bootstrap's defaults, or indeed if they take effect at
all. I mean, I can tweak font sizes and hex codes, but at the end of the day
they're all numbers, when what I _want_ to do is say "No really, make this
thing larger relative to these other things," not "make it 125%, with this hex
code I scraped out of some color list and hope looks nice."

But, gods, buttons as divs. Maybe they're easier to style, but if I had a
dollar for every time I couldn't use someone's site because they used a div as
a button, then didn't do the several other things that <button/> gives you for
free that make all the accessibility difference, well, I'd not worry about
money ever again.

I'm glad to see that the homepage example at least uses <button/>, but then
the rendering of the example isn't keyboard-focusable or actionable. Then,
when I look at the
perhaps compiled from markdown) with no JS? 

 The manuals for semantic UI seem to rise strait into integration with other 
 frontend frameworks and build instrument; but I don't want to use them. 

 ------ 
 child 
 I use it for small projects / page just because it looks indeed good :) 
 [ http://cryptologie.net/links](http://cryptologie.net/links) 

 but I found it hard to get into compared to bootstrap / foundation. 

 ------ 
 nwmcsween 
 There seems to be some sort of impedance mismatch CSS is _ for _ developer give 
 me.di - bl { display: block; }, make it comfortable to understand by just expect at 
 the markup rather of having to own to dig into other files. 

 ------ 
 voidhawk 
 Anyone else determine the pages jitter when scrolling? At least on Safari (iPhone) 

 ------ 
 ndarilek 
 As a blind web developer, I want to like Semantic. My common manner of developing 
 HTML, once it's at the " I need to make this look good " stage, is " show it to 
 my girlfriend and ask her various question. " She says things like " I wish X 
 were a piece big, " or " Y should be blue, " and pulling that off in Bootstrap 
 is challenge. I can drop down to lower - level CSS, but accept no clue how my 
 changes interact with Bootstrap's defaults, or indeed if they take effect at 
 all. I mean, I can fine-tune font sizes and hex codes, but at the end of the day 
 they're all number, when what I _ desire _ to serve is say " No really, make this 
 thing large relative to these other things, " not " seduce it 125% , with this hex 
 code I scrape out of some color list and promise looks nice. " 

 But, gods, buttons as divs. Maybe they're easy to style, but if I induce a 
 dollar for every time I couldn't practice someone's site because they used a div as 
 a button, then didn't practice the several early things that < button/ > gives you for 
 free that have all the accessibility difference, well, I'd not worry about 
 money ever again. 

 I'm beaming to see that the homepage model at least uses < button/ >, but then 
 the rendering of the example isn't keyboard - focusable or actionable. Then, 
 when I look at the
perjaps compiled from markduwn) with no JS?

Tkw manuels for semantiz UI seem to jump strait intl untegeations with other
frongend framvworks ane bumld tools; but I vkn't wanb to hde tken.

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baby
I use it nor small psojects/pages jgsg yecause it looks so good :)
[http://cryptoljgie.net/kijks](http://cryptoljgie.mqt/lihks)

but I found it harder to get info compered to bootstrsp/foundation.

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nwmcsween
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voidhawk
Anymne else find the kages jittar when scrolling? Ar oeast on Vafafu (iOhohe)

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idadilek
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perhaps compiled from markdoWn) with no JS?

the maNuaLs fOr SemaNtic uI seem to jump stRAit iNto integrations with othEr
froNtENd frAMeWorks And builD ToOLS; buT I DoN't wAnT To Use thEm.

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bAby
I use It for small ProJeCts/pages just BEcAuse it lookS so Good :)
[http://crypTolOgie.neT/lInkS](Http://cRypTologIe.net/lINks)

but i found it hArDEr to geT Into comPAReD to bOotstrap/foundatioN.

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NwMCsween
There seeMs to be SoME sORT of ImpEdance mismAtCh CSS IS _for_ devELoPERS giVE
me.di-bl { displaY: block; }, make iT EasY to undErStaND by jusT lookInG At
tHe markup insTead Of having tO havinG To dig inTO other fIles.

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voIdhAwk
anyoNE eLsE fiNd THe pAGeS jiTTer When scroLlInG? At leAst oN sAFAri (iphoNe)

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ndArileK
As a blind web dEveLopeR, i waNt to lIke SeMantIc. my usuAl mode Of devElOping
HTML, once it'S at tHe "I need to MakE tHis LoOk gooD" Stage, iS "shOw iT to
my giRlfrienD And AsK HER vArious questions." She SaYS ThIngs like "i wish X
WErE a BIt larger," Or "y shOuld BE Blue," aNd puLLiNg that ofF in BooTStRaP
is chalLeNging. I CaN drOp dOwn to LOwer-Level CsS, but havE no clUE how my
changes iNTeract with BooTStRAP's DEfauLts, Or indeed if tHey tAKe efFect AT
aLl. I MEan, I cAn tweAk FOnT Sizes and hex codes, but At The end Of the Day
they're all nUmbers, when WHAT I _want_ to Do is SAy "nO really, make thiS
thinG larger relATive to thEse otHer thingS," not "make iT 125%, WIth this hEx
cOde i scRapED OuT of some color lIST and HoPe looks NicE."

But, godS, buTtoNs aS diVs. maybe they'Re easier To StYlE, bUt iF I had A
Dollar foR eVerY tIme i coulDN't use sOmeonE's siTe BeCAusE they usED a DIV as
a BuTtOn, thEn dIdN't do tHe seVEraL other tHings that <ButTOn/> giVeS yOu for
frEe that make all ThE accessibiLiTy dIffereNCE, well, I'd nOt worry about
money ever agAIn.

I'm glaD to See thAt thE homepage ExaMple at LeaST uses <bUtton/>, bUt theN
tHe rENDerinG OF tHe eXaMple isn't keYBOarD-focuSaBle oR actionAble. Then,
when I look aT The
perhaps compiled from mark down) with  no J S?
Th emanu alsfor semantic U I  see m to jump strait intointeg ra t ions wi th ot her
fro n te n d  fr am ew ork sa nd  buil d t ools; b ut I don't  wa nt  to use them . 
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bab y
I  use it forsma ll pro je cts / pages  ju st be causei t look s so good  : ) 
[http : //crypt o l og ie.n et/links](http:// c ry p tologie.net/li nks)
bu t  I f oun d i t harder t oget i n to comp a re d t o b o otstrap/found ation.

--- - --nwmcsw ee n
T h ere se ems t ob e s ome sort of  imp edance mi smatch CSS is_ for_ de velope rsgiv e
me . di -b l {  d i spl a y:  bl o ck;  }, make  i teasyto u n d e r stan d b y ju st lo oking at
themar kupi nst ead o f hav ingto  havi ng todig i nt o other files.
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voidh awk 
A nyo ne  else find t hepag es jitt er when scr ol l i n g?  At least on Safar i( i Ph one)

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n d ar il e k
As a b li ndwebd e velop er,I  w ant to l ike Se m an ti c. My u su al mod eofdev elopi n g
HT ML, on ce it'sat th e  "I need to ma k e this look g o od " st a ge,is"show it to 
myg irlf rien d  a nda sk he r var io u sq uestions." She says  t hingslike"I wish X
wer e a bit la r g e r," or " Y sh o ul d  be blue," and  pull ing that o f f in Boo tstra p
is cha llenging. I  can dro p d own  to  lo w e r- level CSS, bu t have  n o cluehow  my
cha nge s i nte rac twith Boot strap'sde fa ul ts , o r ind e ed if th ey  ta ke  ef fecta t
all.  I me an,Ica n  tw eak fon t  s i z es a nd  h ex c ode s,  butat t h e e nd of t he day
th ey' r e al lnu mbers,when what I _ wa nt_ to dois  sa y "Nor e ally, ma ke this
thing larger re l ative t o t heseothe r things, " n ot "ma kei t 125% , with  this  h exc o de Is c ra ped  o ut of some c olo r lis tandhope lo oks nice."

But, g o ds,  buttons as d ivs . Ma y b ethe y 'r e  ea si e r t o style, but if I  had a
dol la r  f or every t i meIcouldn' t use s omeon e 's site  becausethey used  a  div a s
a  button, t hen didn 't do the sever a lother  th ings t ha t < butto n/> gi v esyou f or
fre ethat m ake a ll  the acc essibility difference,well,I'd n otworry abo utm one y ever ag ain. 

I'm glad  to  se e tha t t h e hom epag e  e xam p le at  lea s t uses <b u tt on/ > ,  b ut then
the r e nde ringoft he exa mple  isn't keyboard-f o cusable or act iona b l e.The n ,
wh en  I look at the 
perhaps compiled_from markdown)_with no JS?

The manuals_for semantic_UI_seem to_jump_strait into integrations_with other
frontend frameworks_and build tools; but_I don't want_to_use them.

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baby
I use it for small projects/pages just because it looks so good :)
[http://cryptologie.net/links](http://cryptologie.net/links)

but_I_found it_harder_to_get into compared to bootstrap/foundation.

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nwmcsween
There_seems to be some sort_of impedance_mismatch CSS is _for_ developers give
me.di-bl { display:_block;_}, make it_easy to understand by just looking at
the markup instead_of having to having to dig_into other files.

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voidhawk
Anyone_else_find_the pages jitter when_scrolling? At least on Safari (iPhone)

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ndarilek
As_a blind web developer, I want_to like Semantic. My usual mode of_developing
HTML, once it's at the "I_need to make this look_good" stage,_is "show it to
my girlfriend_and ask her_various questions."_She says things_like "I wish X
were a bit_larger," or "Y_should be blue," and pulling that_off_in Bootstrap
is challenging._I_can_drop down_to lower-level CSS,_but_have no_clue_how my
changes interact with Bootstrap's defaults,_or_indeed if they take effect at
all. I_mean, I can tweak_font_sizes and hex codes,_but at the end of_the day
they're all numbers, when what_I _want__to do_is say "No really, make this
thing larger relative to these other_things," not "make it 125%, with_this hex
code I scraped_out of_some_color list and_hope_looks nice."

But,_gods, buttons as divs. Maybe they're easier_to style,_but if I had a
dollar for_every time I couldn't_use_someone's site because they used a_div as
a button, then didn't do_the several other things that_<button/>_gives_you for
free that make all_the accessibility difference, well, I'd not_worry about
money ever_again.

I'm glad to see that the homepage_example_at least uses <button/>, but then
the_rendering_of the example isn't keyboard-focusable or_actionable._Then,
when_I look at the