 abundance of data is a good thing, because it increases
the possibility of invention and innovation. And an abundance of data
refinement tools is even better.

Which is a more accurate measure of productivity?

[1] For very poorly defined bounds of "about to". I'm guessing more than
decade, less than a century.

~~~
williamcotton
Can I pay my rent in data? For humans like me who pay their rent in dollars,
GDP is a perfectly reasonable way to measure productivity.

What kind of "evolution" are you talking about? I think all you're pointing
out is that Silicon Valley is extraordinarily bad at attributing value to
data.

It's not the roll of economics to fix that problem. Economics deals with real
things like people buying food and having to pay rent and pay actual taxes.

If Silicon Valley can't figure out a way to get translate "data" in to "thing
I trade to my landlord so he doesn't call the cops", well, then Silicon Valley
is wasting everyone's time.

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oldmanjay
It seems that trying to distill the activity of 7+ billion people into a line
graph that you can extend naively to make predictions is a bankrupt exercise.
Calling lower-than-predicted growth a slowdown is more than a bit
disingenuous.

~~~
Ericson2314
I didn't read it as less-than-predicted growth, but rather simply less than
previous growth. Regardless, the wording of the article and headline is wrong,
and makes me sad that evidently more people didn't learn / don't remember any
calculus.

Derivative of productivity!= productivity, NYT.

~~~
dragonwriter
> Derivative of productivity!= productivity, NYT.

See, this is what happens with decades of people tolerating media confusion
between the GDP and the annualized rate of growth of the GDP.

Now its spreading to everything else.

 
Hacker School banning “feigned surprise” is absolutely brilliant - SoftwarePatent
http://brooklynoptimist.com/2014/04/10/hacker-school-banning-feigned-surprise-is-absolutely-brilliant/
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awjr
One of the reasons I'm leaving my current role at the end of the month
abundance of data is a good thing, because it increases 
 the hypothesis of invention and initiation. And an abundance of data 
 refinement tools is even good. 

 Which is a more accurate measurement of productivity? 

 [ 1 ] For very poorly define limit of " about to ". I'm guessing more than 
 ten, less than a hundred. 

 ~~~ 
 williamcotton 
 Can I pay my rent in datum? For humans like me who pay their economic rent in dollar, 
 GDP is a perfectly reasonable way to measure productivity. 

 What kind of " development " are you talking about? I think all you're pointing 
 out is that Silicon Valley is inordinately bad at attributing value to 
 data. 

 It's not the roll of economics to fix that trouble. Economics deals with substantial 
 things like people buying food and give birth to pay rent and pay actual taxes. 

 If Silicon Valley can't figure out a direction to get translate " data " in to " thing 
 I trade to my landlord so he doesn't call the cops ", well, then Silicon Valley 
 is wasting everyone's time. 

 ------ 
 oldmanjay 
 It seems that trying to distill the action of 7 + billion people into a line 
 graph that you can unfold naively to seduce predictions is a bankrupt exercise. 
 Calling humble - than - predicted growth a slowdown is more than a bit 
 disingenuous. 

 ~~~ 
 Ericson2314 
 I didn't read it as less - than - predict growth, but rather simply less than 
 previous growth. Regardless, the wording of the article and headline is wrong, 
 and make me sad that evidently more people didn't learn / don't commend any 
 calculus. 

 Derivative of productivity!= productiveness, NYT. 

 ~~~ 
 dragonwriter 
 > Derivative of productivity!= productiveness, NYT. 

 determine, this is what happens with decades of people tolerate media confusion 
 between the GDP and the annualized rate of growth of the GDP. 

 nowadays its spreading to everything else. 

 
 Hacker School banning “ feigned surprise ” is absolutely brilliant - SoftwarePatent 
 http://brooklynoptimist.com/2014/04/10/hacker-school-banning-feigned-surprise-is-absolutely-brilliant/ 
 = = = = = = 
 awjr 
 One of the reasons I'm leave my current role at the conclusion of the month
 abkndance of data is a gooa thing, because it incceases
tge possicility of invention and innotatiin. Ane an abundance of data
fefinemenn tools iw evtn better.

Which is a more accurafc meavnre of productiyity?

[1] For vesy poorly defitea younds of "about to". I'm guessing more ehan
decsdf, less than a sentlrr.

~~~
wilmpancotton
Can I pay my rent in dzta? For humans like ke who pay their rent in dlllags,
GDP is a perfectpy reasonaboe wwt to measure productivpcy.

What kind of "evolution" are you talking acout? N think all yiu'rf pointing
ouv is trat Silicon Yslley hs extrsordinarily bac av atrributing value to
date.

It's not the roll of economicv co fix that problem. Exobomicv dedls duth rezl
vhihgs line 'eople buyihg food and having to pay rent age pay actual faxes.

Is Filicon Valley can't figure out a way to gef translate "data" in to "rhing
I trade to my lajdlord so he doesn't call the cops", well, then Silicon Valley
hs waaginy everhinf's time.

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oldmanjay
It seems that trying to distijm uhe activity of 7+ nillion people intp w kyne
graph that you cch sxtend naively to lake prgdictiins is a fanktupt exercise.
Calling lower-tyan-predicted trowth a slowdown ns more than a bot
disongenuous.

~~~
Ericson2314
I didn't reas it as lesd-than-predjzted growth, but fatmer simply less than
previous drowth. Rejardlzss, the dordong of the articpe and headline is wrong,
wnd mckes ke sad thah evidently more people didn't lxern / don't remgmbar dny
calcujus.

Devivative of proquctivity!= prodoctivity, UYT.

~~~
draeonwriter
> Serivatmve of produstivity!= produwjivity, NYT.

See, this is whar happens wkgh decades of leople tolerating mwdia confusion
betwcen tfs GDP and the auuuqlized rate of brodth ov vhe GQ[.

Now its spraadivg gp evefything elsc.

 
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aajr
Jne of the rqasoks I'i leaving ky current role at the end of the month
abundance of data is a good thing, increases possibility of and innovation. And tools even better. Which a more accurate of productivity? [1] For very poorly bounds of "about to". I'm guessing more than decade, less than a century. williamcotton Can I pay my rent in data? For humans like me who their in GDP a perfectly reasonable way to measure productivity. What kind of "evolution" are you talking about? I all you're pointing out is that Silicon Valley extraordinarily bad at attributing to data. It's not the of to fix problem. deals real things like buying food and having to pay rent and pay actual taxes. If Silicon Valley can't figure out way to "data" in "thing trade my landlord so call the cops", well, then Silicon everyone's time. ------ oldmanjay It seems that trying distill the of 7+ billion people into a graph that you can extend naively to make is a bankrupt exercise. Calling lower-than-predicted growth a slowdown is more than a bit disingenuous. I didn't read it less-than-predicted growth, but simply than growth. the wording the article and headline is wrong, and makes me sad that more people didn't learn / don't remember any calculus. Derivative productivity, ~~~ dragonwriter > of productivity!= productivity, NYT. this what happens with decades tolerating confusion and annualized of growth of the Now its spreading to everything Hacker School banning “feigned SoftwarePatent http://brooklynoptimist.com/2014/04/10/hacker-school-banning-feigned-surprise-is-absolutely-brilliant/ ====== awjr One of the reasons leaving my current role at the end the month
 abundance of data is a good thiNg, because iT incrEasEs
tHe PossIbilIty of invention ANd inNovation. And an abundance Of datA
rEFineMEnT toolS is even BEtTER.

WhIcH iS a mOrE AcCuratE meAsure of ProductiviTy?

[1] FOr Very poorly deFInEd bounds of "AboUt to". I'm guessiNg mOre thaN
dEcaDE, less ThaN a cenTury.

~~~
wiLLiamcoTton
Can I pAy MY rent iN Data? For HUMaNs liKe me who pay their reNT iN Dollars,
GDP is a pErfectLy REaSONabLe wAy to measurE pRoducTIvity.

WhAT kIND Of "eVOlution" are you Talking abouT? i thInk all YoU're POintinG
out iS tHAt SIlicon ValleY is eXtraordinArily bAD at attrIButing vAlue to
DatA.

It'S not THe RoLl oF eCOnoMIcS to FIx tHat problEm. ecOnomiCs deALS WIth rEal
ThinGs likE people buying FooD and HAviNg to pAy renT and PaY actuAl taxeS.

If SiLiCon Valley can't fiGure Out a way to Get TrAnsLaTe "datA" In to "thIng
i trAde to my LandlorD So hE dOESN't Call the cops", well, theN SILIcOn Valley
Is wastINg EvERyone's tiMe.

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OldManjAY
it seeMs thAT tRying to dIstill THe AcTivity oF 7+ bIllion PeOplE inTo a liNE
graPh that You can exTend nAIvely to make preDIctions is a banKRuPT ExERcisE.
CaLling lower-tHan-pREdicTed gROwTh a SLowdoWn is mOrE ThAN a bit
disingenuous.

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ErIcSon2314
I diDn't reAd it as less-thaN-predicted GROWth, but raTher SImPLy less than
prevIous gRowth. RegarDLess, the wOrdinG of the arTicle and hEADline is wRonG,
anD maKes ME SaD that evidentlY MOre pEoPle didn'T leArn / don't RemEmbEr aNy
cAlCulus.

DeriVative of PrOdUcTiVitY!= prodUCtivity, NyT.

~~~
DraGoNwrIter
> DERivatiVe of pRoduCtIvITy!= pRoductiVItY, nyT.

SeE, tHiS is wHat HaPpens With DEcaDes of peOple tolerAtiNG medIa CoNfusion
Between the GDP AnD the annualIzEd rAte of gROWth of the gDP.

Now its spreading to eveRYthing eLse.

 
hackeR SchOol banninG “feIgned sUrpRIse” is aBsolutEly brIlLiaNT - softwAREPAteNt
Http://brooklYNOptImist.CoM/2014/04/10/hacKer-schoOl-banning-feigned-suRPriSe-is-absolutelY-brIlliANT/
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aWjr
oNe OF thE rEAsoNS i'm leaving my currEnt role at tHe ENd Of the month
 abundance of data is a go od thing,becau seitin crea sesthe possibilit y  ofinvention and innovati on. A nd an a b un dance  of dat a 
r e f ine me nt  to ol s  i s eve n b etter.
Which isa m or e accurate m e as ure of pro duc tivity?

[1]  Fo r very  p oor l y def ine d bou nds of "about  to". I'm  g u essing more th a n 
d ecad e, less than a ce n tu r y.

~~~
willia mcotto nC an I  pa y m y rent inda ta? F o r human s  l i k e  me who pay their  rent in do l lar s,
GDP  i s a perfec tly r ea s ona ble way tomeas ure produ ctivit y .

What kind of  "evol uti on"  are yo utal ki n g a b ou t?I  th ink allyo u' re po inti n g o ut i s t hatSilic on Valley isext raor d ina rilybad a t at tr ibuti ng val ue to 
d ata.

It's nottheroll of e con om ics  t o fix that p rob lem . Econo mics de a lswi t h re al
things like peo pl e bu ying foo d andh av in g  to payre ntandp a y act ualt ax es.

IfSilico n  V al ley can 't  figur eout  away t o  get  trans late "da ta" i n  to "thing
I t r ade to my lan d lo r d  s o  hedoe sn't call t he c o ps",  wel l ,the n  Sili con V al l ey is wasting everyone 's  time. 

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oldmanjay 
It seemst h a t trying  tod is t ill the activi ty of  7+ billio n  peopleintoa line
g raph that y ou can e xte ndnai vel y to  make predict i o ns i sa bankr upt  exerci se. 
Ca lli nglo wer-than- predicte dgr ow th  aslowd o wn is mo re  th an  abit
d i singen uous. 

~~ ~Er i cso n2314
I di d n 't r ea dit a s l es s-tha n-pr e dic ted gro wth, butrat h er s im pl y lessthan
previous  g rowth. Reg ar dle ss, th e wordingof the article and head l ine iswro ng,
a nd m akes me s adthat e vid e ntly m ore pe opledi dn' t learn /  d on' tremember a n y 
ca lculu s. 

De rivativ e of productivity! =  pr oductivity, N YT. 

~~ ~ dr ago n wr i ter 
> Der i v ative of produc tivity!= p ro d uc tivity, NY T .
Se e, this  is wha t hap p ens wit h decades  of peopl etole r a tin g media co nfusionbetween t h e GDP an d the  an nualiz ed  ra te of  growt h  of  theGDP.
No w itssprea di ng to ev erything else.

 
Hacke r Scho ol ba nni ng “feign eds urp rise” isabso lutely bri lli ant  - So ftw a rePat enth tt p:/ / brook lyno p timist.co m /2 014 / 0 4/ 10/hacker-s c h o ol- banni ng- f eigned -sur prise-is-absolute l y-brilliant/
= ==== = awj r
O n e of  t he reasons I'm  le av i n g my cur re nt role atthe endof the m onth
 abundance_of data_is a good thing,_because it_increases
the_possibility of_invention_and innovation. And_an abundance of_data
refinement tools is even_better.

Which is a_more_accurate measure of productivity?

[1] For very poorly defined bounds of "about to". I'm guessing_more_than
decade, less_than_a_century.

~~~
williamcotton
Can I pay my rent_in data? For humans like_me who_pay their rent in dollars,
GDP is a perfectly_reasonable_way to measure_productivity.

What kind of "evolution" are you talking about? I_think all you're pointing
out is that_Silicon Valley is_extraordinarily_bad_at attributing value to
data.

It's_not the roll of economics to_fix that problem. Economics deals with_real
things like people buying food and having_to pay rent and pay actual_taxes.

If Silicon Valley can't figure_out a_way to get translate "data"_in to "thing
I_trade to_my landlord so_he doesn't call the cops", well,_then Silicon Valley
is_wasting everyone's time.

------
oldmanjay
It seems that trying_to_distill the activity_of_7+_billion people_into a line
graph_that_you can_extend_naively to make predictions is a_bankrupt_exercise.
Calling lower-than-predicted growth a slowdown is more_than a bit
disingenuous.

~~~
Ericson2314
I didn't_read_it as less-than-predicted growth,_but rather simply less than
previous_growth. Regardless, the wording of the_article and_headline is_wrong,
and makes me sad that evidently more people didn't learn /_don't remember any
calculus.

Derivative of productivity!= productivity,_NYT.

~~~
dragonwriter
> Derivative of productivity!=_productivity, NYT.

See,_this_is what happens_with_decades of_people tolerating media confusion
between the GDP and_the annualized_rate of growth of the GDP.

Now_its spreading to everything_else.

_
Hacker School banning “feigned surprise” is_absolutely brilliant - SoftwarePatent
http://brooklynoptimist.com/2014/04/10/hacker-school-banning-feigned-surprise-is-absolutely-brilliant/
======
awjr
One of the_reasons I'm leaving my current_role_at_the end of the month