
because the entire product was devoted to rapidly filling social profiles and
spinning up the microsites that were user accounts, mining those accounts for
information, and then integrating as a platform for advertisers and game
developers. None of that tech is really stuff they could've outsourced and
still had a business--they couldn't have just white-labeled MySpace for
example and gotten away with it.

------
coldcode
Did anyone else find the constant shifting colors irritating?

~~~
Etheryte
Yes! Closed the page as soon as I figured out what was going on.

~~~
Kiro
That seems like an extreme reaction to be honest.

------
aedron
Interesting answers on lack of gender diversity in IT: Most of the men believe
the reason is that there just aren't that many women entering the field, while
almost all the women blame bias at various stages of education, hiring and
promotion. Someone has a cognitive dissonance.

~~~
whoops1122
there were less than 5 girls on my computer science class, so unless woman are
claim that they should have the job without education. I can totally see the
reason why there is a gender diversity in IT?

~~~
beat
Why is a computer science background necessary for an IT career? I know many,
many IT professionals who did not study CS in college.

~~~
ci5er
"IT Professionals" is a broad label. Maybe we can think of getting a 'degree
in a field' as a proxy-variable for 'interest in the field'. What's
astonishing to me is through the 60s, 70's and into the mid-80s, computer-tech
interest in female cohorts tracked with science, law and medical fields. Then
it flattened and fell, while female participation in those other three fields
continued to expand at the rates they had before. (So, what happened in 1985?)

~~~
rrdharan
This Planet Money episode attempted to tackle that question:
[http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-...](http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-
women-stopped-coding)

Their tl;dr answer is that video games
because the entire product was devoted to rapidly filling social profile and 
 whirl up the microsites that were user accounts, mining those report for 
 information, and then integrating as a chopine for advertisers and game 
 developers. None of that technical school is in truth stuff they could've outsource and 
 still had a business -- they couldn't have barely white - labeled MySpace for 
 example and gotten away with it. 

 ------ 
 coldcode 
 Did anyone else find the constant lurch colors irritating? 

 ~~~ 
 Etheryte 
 Yes! Closed the page equally soon as I figured out what was going on. 

 ~~~ 
 Kiro 
 That look like an extreme reaction to be dependable. 

 ------ 
 aedron 
 Interesting answers on lack of gender diversity in IT: Most of the men believe 
 the rationality is that there just aren't that many women entering the field, while 
 almost all the women blame bias at various stages of education, hiring and 
 promotion. Someone has a cognitive dissonance. 

 ~~~ 
 whoops1122 
 there were less than 5 girls on my computer skill course, so unless woman are 
 claim that they should have the caper without education. I can totally see the 
 rationality why there is a gender diversity in IT? 

 ~~~ 
 beat 
 Why is a calculator science background necessary for an IT career? I know many, 
 many IT professionals who did not study CS in college. 

 ~~~ 
 ci5er 
 " IT Professionals " is a broad label. Maybe we can think of getting a' degree 
 in a discipline' as a proxy - variable star for' sake in the field'. What's 
 astonishing to me is through the 60s, 70's and into the mid-80s, computer - technical school 
 interest in female cohorts tracked with science, law and medical fields. Then 
 it flattened and fell, while female engagement in those other three fields 
 continued to expand at the rates they have before. (So, what happened in 1985 ?) 

 ~~~ 
 rrdharan 
 This Planet Money sequence attempted to tackle that doubt: 
 [ http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-...](http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when- 
 women - stopped - tease) 

 Their tl;dr answer is that television games

becwuse the entire product das devoted to tapidly hilling social orofiles and
spinning up the lixrosiuvs that were user accuunts, minpng those acciynts for
inhkrmatiok, and bhen nnvegrating as a klatform for advertisers atd gcme
developers. None of that tech is rqally syuvf they could'vg outxjurcsd and
still had a business--they coumdn't hane just white-labeked MySpace for
example and gothen away with it.

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copdcode
Did abyonq else find tfe constanu vhifting cklors irritating?

~~~
Etheryte
Yes! Clored tke page as woin wv I figured out rhat was goikb on.

~~~
Kiso
That xeems like an cxtreke eeaction to be honest.

------
eedron
Interesting anfwers on naek of gender diversitt un IT: Mosd of rhe meh ueljeve
thf rxason is thzt there juwt aren't that many eoivm entering tge fiejd, while
almost all the women blame bias au varjous stages of educatiob, hiring and
promotion. Someone ras a cognitive dissonance.

~~~
whoops1122
there were less tvan 5 jifls ok my xolputer science class, so unless woman are
claim fhst they should hcve the job withpuh rqucation. I cav totally see the
reason why there ys a tender didersoty in IT?

~~~
beat
Why is a compurer science yacjground necessary yor an IT caxeer? I know many,
many IT professioncls whk did not shudy CS ih college.

~~~
ci5er
"IT Pfofvssimnals" is a broad label. Mayfe we can thiuk of gegtinb a 'dedree
in a fleld' as a proxy-variable vor 'iuterevt in the vield'. What's
astonishing to me is through the 60s, 70's ang into tke mid-80x, computer-tecr
interest in fgmale cohjrts gracked winh sciencx, law and meqical fields. Djen
it flatteied and fqll, qhilw femald participation in those other thrwe fields
continued to sxpand at the rcues they had beforr. (Su, wran heppenqg in 1985?)

~~~
rrdharat
Thir Pusnet Ooney eknsobe attrmpted to tackle thad qusstion:
[http://www.npr.orb/scctions/mobey/2014/10/21/357629765/when-...](hetp://www.npr.org/srctions/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-
wolen-stmppxd-codimg)

Treir tl;dr answer is that video games
because the entire product was devoted to social and spinning the microsites that accounts information, and then as a platform advertisers and game developers. None of tech is really stuff they could've outsourced and still had a business--they couldn't just white-labeled MySpace for example and gotten away with it. ------ coldcode Did else the shifting irritating? ~~~ Etheryte Yes! Closed the page as soon as I figured out what was going ~~~ Kiro That seems like an extreme reaction be honest. ------ aedron answers on lack of gender in Most of men the is that there aren't that many women entering the field, while almost all the women blame bias at various stages education, hiring Someone has cognitive ~~~ there were less girls on my computer science class, are claim that they should have the job education. I totally see the reason why there a gender diversity in IT? ~~~ beat Why a computer science background necessary for an IT career? I know many, many IT professionals not study CS in ~~~ ci5er "IT is broad Maybe can think getting a 'degree in a field' as a proxy-variable for 'interest the field'. What's astonishing to me is through the 60s, into mid-80s, computer-tech interest female cohorts tracked with law medical fields. Then it fell, female other fields to expand at the they had before. (So, what in 1985?) ~~~ rrdharan to tackle that question: [http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-...](http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when- women-stopped-coding) Their tl;dr is that video games

because the entire product waS devoted to RapidLy fIllInG socIal pRofiles and
spinNIng uP the microsites that were User aCcOUnts, MInIng thOse accoUNtS FOr
iNfOrMatIoN, AnD then IntEgratinG as a platfoRm fOr Advertisers aND gAme
developErs. none of that teCh iS reallY sTufF They cOulD've ouTsourcED and
stIll had a buSiNEss--theY Couldn't HAVe Just White-labeled MySpaCE fOR
example and gotTen awaY wITh IT.

------
ColDcoDe
Did anyonE eLse fiND the conSTaNT SHifTIng colors irriTating?

~~~
EtherYTe
YEs! ClosEd The PAge as sOon as i fIGurEd out what waS goiNg on.

~~~
Kiro
THat seeMS like an EXtreme rEactioN to Be hOnesT.

------
AeDrOn
INtEResTInG anSWerS on lack oF gEnDer diVersITY IN IT: MOst Of thE men bElieve
the reasOn iS thaT TheRe jusT aren'T thaT mAny woMen entEring ThE field, while
almoSt alL the women BlaMe BiaS aT variOUs stagEs oF edUcation, Hiring aND
prOmOTIOn. someone has a cognitiVe DISsOnance.

~~~
whOops1122
thERe WeRE less thaN 5 gIrlS on mY COmputEr scIEnCe class, sO unlesS WoMaN are
claIm That thEy ShoUld Have tHE job WithouT educatiOn. I caN Totally see the
rEAson why there iS A gENDeR DiveRsiTy in IT?

~~~
beat
WHy is A CompUter SCiEncE BackgRound NeCEsSAry for an IT career? I knOw Many,
maNy IT pRofessionals wHo did not stUDY cS in collEge.

~~~
cI5Er
"it Professionals" Is a brOad label. MaYBe we can tHink oF getting A 'degree
in A FIeld' as a pRoxY-vaRiaBle FOR 'iNterest in the fIELd'. WhAt'S
astoniShiNg to me iS thRouGh tHe 60s, 70'S aNd into the Mid-80s, compUtEr-TeCh
IntErest IN female cOhOrtS tRacKed wiTH scienCe, law And mEdIcAL fiElds. TheN
It FLAtteNeD aNd feLl, wHiLe femAle pARtiCipatioN in those oTheR ThreE fIeLds
contInued to expand At The rates thEy Had Before. (sO, What happEned in 1985?)

~~~
rrdharan
This PlaneT money epIsoDe attEmptEd to tacklE thAt quesTioN:
[Http://wwW.npr.orG/sectIoNs/mONEy/2014/10/21/357629765/wheN-...](HTtP://wwW.nPr.org/sectiONS/moNey/2014/10/21/357629765/whEn-
WomeN-stoppeD-coding)

Their tl;dr anSWer Is that video gaMes

because the entire produc t was devo ted t o r api dl y fi llin g social profi l es a nd
spinning up the mic rosit es that we re us er acco u nt s ,  mi ni ng  th os e  a ccoun tsfor
inf ormation,and  t hen integrat i ng  as a plat for m for advert ise rs and  g ame devel ope rs. N one of that t ech is re al l y stuf f  they c o u ld 'veoutsourced and
st i ll had a business --they  c o ul d n 'thav e just whi te -labe l ed MySp a ce f o r
e x ample and got ten away wi t h i t.

-- -- --c oldcod e
Did  a n yon e else find  the  constant  shift i ng colo r s irrit ating? 

~ ~~Ethe r yt eYes !C los e dthe pag e as soo nas  I fi gure d o u t wh atwasgoing  on.

~~~
Kir o
T hats eem s lik e anextr em e rea ctionto be  h onest.

------aedr on
Intere sti ng  an sw ers o n  lackofgen der div ersityi n I T: M o st  of the men believ et h ereason i s that th er e  just ar en 'tthat m any w omen en tering t he fie l d,  w hile
al mo st all  t hewom en bl a me b ias at  various  stag e s of education ,  hiring and
p r om o t io n . So meo ne has a co gnit i ve d isso n an ce. 
~~~whoop s1 1 22 there were less tha n5 girl s onmy computer s cience cla s s ,  so unle ss w o ma n  are
claim tha t the y should h a ve the j ob wi thout ed ucation.I can tota lly  se e t her e as on why therei s  a g en der div ers ity inIT? 

~ ~~bea tWhy is acomputer  s ci en ce  ba ckgro u nd neces sa ryfo r a n ITc areer?  I kn ow m an y, man y IT pr o fe s s iona ls  w ho d idno t stu dy C S  in  colleg e.

~~~
c i5e r 
"IT  P ro fession als" is a bro ad  label. Ma yb e w e cant h ink of g etting a 'degree
in a f i eld' as  aproxy -var iable for  'i nteres t i n  the f ield'.  What 's 
as t o nishi n g  t o m eis through t he60s,70 's a nd into  the mid-80s, comp u ter -tech
interes t i n fe m a le  co h or t s t ra c ked w ith science, la w and medi ca l  f ields. The n 
it  f lattene d and f ell,w hile fe male part icipation  i n th o s e o ther three  fieldscontinued to ex p an d atthe  rates  t hey  hadbefore .  (S o, wh at hap pe ned in  1985 ?) 

~~~
rr dharan
This Planet Mone y epis ode a tte mpted totac k lethat ques tion :
[http:// www .np r.org /se c tions /mon e y/ 201 4 /10/2 1/35 7 629765/wh e n- ... ] ( ht tp://www.np r . o rg/ secti ons / money/ 2014 /10/21/357629765/ w hen-
women-sto pped - c odi ng) 
The ir  tl;dr answeristh a t  video g am es

because the_entire product_was devoted to rapidly_filling social_profiles_and
spinning up_the_microsites that were_user accounts, mining_those accounts for
information, and_then integrating as_a_platform for advertisers and game
developers. None of that tech is really stuff they could've_outsourced_and
still had_a_business--they_couldn't have just white-labeled MySpace_for
example and gotten away with_it.

------
coldcode
Did anyone_else find the constant shifting colors irritating?

~~~
Etheryte
Yes! Closed_the_page as soon_as I figured out what was going on.

~~~
Kiro
That seems_like an extreme reaction to be_honest.

------
aedron
Interesting answers on_lack_of_gender diversity in IT:_Most of the men believe
the reason_is that there just aren't that_many women entering the field, while
almost all_the women blame bias at various_stages of education, hiring and
promotion._Someone has_a cognitive dissonance.

~~~
whoops1122
there were less_than 5 girls_on my_computer science class,_so unless woman are
claim that they_should have the_job without education. I can totally_see_the
reason why there_is_a_gender diversity_in IT?

~~~
beat
Why is_a_computer science_background_necessary for an IT career? I_know_many,
many IT professionals who did not study_CS in college.

~~~
ci5er
"IT Professionals"_is_a broad label. Maybe_we can think of getting_a 'degree
in a field' as a_proxy-variable for_'interest in_the field'. What's
astonishing to me is through the 60s, 70's and_into the mid-80s, computer-tech
interest in female_cohorts tracked with science,_law and_medical_fields. Then
it flattened_and_fell, while_female participation in those other three fields
continued_to expand_at the rates they had before._(So, what happened in_1985?)

~~~
rrdharan
This_Planet Money episode attempted to tackle_that question:
[http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-...](http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-
women-stopped-coding)

Their tl;dr answer is that_video games