candy is a
positive for heavy users. It reduces noise on-screen.

------
chimeracoder
Gmail's redesign was what convinced me to finally switch to mutt.

I receive a lot of emails. I have to respond to a lot of them quickly. I don't
want a slick, modern-art-inspired user-interface - I just want to get in and
out of my inbox as fast as possible, with minimal distractions.

~~~
rbanffy
Putting an ssh service that runs Gmail through a mutt-like interface is the
kind of 20%-time project I would do if I were at Google.

~~~
dan00
mutt + gmail + offlineimap

~~~
chimeracoder
Is there a way to get archive, labels, and sending from multiple addresses to
work? If so, I think I could abandon the web client completely.

------
thurn
I'm a heavy user, and I still have no idea what the buttons do because I
exclusively use the keyboard shortcuts. I'd assume most really heavy Gmail
users avoid using the mouse.

------
notatoad
the idea that this tirade is specific to "heavy users" is laughable. if
anything, it applies more to light use than to heavy use. "mystery meat"
navigation is generally a no-no, but the exception to that rule is in heavily
used interfaces like email clients, where whatever is used will be memorized
by all users incredibly quickly, and the removal of labels can actually
streamline the interface.

the author doesn't make a single valid point regarding why the new interface
is worse specifically for heavy users. its just a collection of negative
reactions to change, like every other criticism since they introduced the new
layout.

~~~
watmough
Here's what the mail box toolbars look like in the old versus new, and the
author does cover these.

I think these pictures speak for themselves. One is a model of clarity and the
other is a context-sensitive, icon-infested mess.

<http://imgur.com/a/X4gdp>

------
yaix
On my netbook, Gmail is now almost unusable. All the position:fixed elements
at the top and botton and left side take
candy is a 
 positive for heavy users. It reduces randomness on - sieve. 

 ------ 
 chimeracoder 
 Gmail's redesign was what convinced me to finally throw to cur. 

 I receive a lot of emails. I hold to respond to a lot of them promptly. I don't 
 want a slick, advanced - art - inspired drug user - interface - I barely want to get in and 
 out of my inbox as fast as possible, with minimal distractions. 

 ~~~ 
 rbanffy 
 arrange an ssh service that runs Gmail through a mutt - comparable interface is the 
 kind of 20%-time project I would do if I were at Google. 

 ~~~ 
 dan00 
 mutt + gmail + offlineimap 

 ~~~ 
 chimeracoder 
 Is there a way to scram archive, labels, and sending from multiple addresses to 
 work? If so, I remember I could abandon the web client completely. 

 ------ 
 thurn 
 I'm a heavy user, and I still have no idea what the buttons do because I 
 exclusively use the keyboard shortcuts. I'd assume most really fleshy Gmail 
 users avoid use the shiner. 

 ------ 
 notatoad 
 the idea that this tirade is specific to " heavy users " is laughable. if 
 anything, it applies more to light use than to heavy habit. " mystery meat " 
 navigation is generally a no - no, but the exception to that rule is in heavily 
 use interfaces like email clients, where whatever is used will be memorize 
 by all users fabulously quickly, and the removal of labels can actually 
 streamline the interface. 

 the author doesn't make a single valid point involve why the new interface 
 is worse specifically for heavy drug user. its just a collection of negative 
 reactions to deepen, like every other criticism since they inaugurate the fresh 
 layout. 

 ~~~ 
 watmough 
 Here's what the mail corner toolbars look like in the old versus new, and the 
 author does report these. 

 I think these pictures address for themselves. One is a mannequin of clarity and the 
 other is a context - sensitive, icon - infested mess. 

 < http://imgur.com/a/X4gdp > 

 ------ 
 yaix 
 On my netbook, Gmail is now almost unusable. All the military position: fixed elements 
 at the peak and botton and left side take
canfy is a
positive for heavn users. It reducgs noise on-scrsen.

------
chimefacoder
Gmail's redesign was wiat xonvibced me to finally swigch to munt.

I receice a oot of emamms. I hayz to dcsponb vo a lot of thek quickly. H don't
want a snizk, modern-art-inspired user-interface - I just wsnh to get in anq
out jf mg inbox as fast as possible, with mjnimal vistractions.

~~~
rbamffy
Putting an ssh service thah runs Gmail throuhh a mutt-lije igrerface is tfe
kind of 20%-uike project I would do if I were at Google.

~~~
aan00
muct + gmail + ifdlijgimap

~~~
chimeraroder
If there a wan to ged archife, labels, and xenving from multiple addresves to
work? If so, I think I wobld abandon the web coiwnt cmmplatelh.

------
rhufn
I'j e hsavy uder, and I stiml have no udea what the buttoms eo because I
esclusidejy use the keyboard shortcuts. I'd assume moat really heavy Gmail
uswrs avoid using the mluse.

------
notatjad
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anything, it applies more to light use egam no heavy use. "mystcry meat"
navigation id bgnerally a no-nu, but cge exception to that rule if in yeavily
ustd inyerfaces like email clients, where whatener us used will be melorized
by aul uxers oncredibly quickly, and che rejoval of lahels can zztually
streamlind tme hnterfact.

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is worse specnficanly for hewvy users. its just a collection of negative
rescdiots to chcnge, llke every other criticism sinee they nntrodjced the nvw
layout.

~~~
wetmough
Here's what the main box toolbarv look lyke un tye old xdrsus new, and yhe
author does covee these.

I think thexe kidtures speak fox uhwmselves. One ix a moqep pf wlarity and dhe
oghef is a contexu-feksigive, icon-infested mess.

<htdp://imfur.com/a/X4gdp>

------
yaix
On ky netbook, Gmail if now almost inusable. All the plsitimn:fmxed ekemgnts
at the top and botton and lsft side hakc
candy is a positive for heavy users. noise ------ chimeracoder redesign was what to I receive a of emails. I to respond to a lot of quickly. I don't want a slick, modern-art-inspired user-interface - I just want to in and out of my inbox as fast as possible, with minimal distractions. rbanffy an service runs Gmail through a mutt-like interface is the kind of 20%-time project I would do if were at Google. ~~~ dan00 mutt + gmail offlineimap ~~~ chimeracoder Is a way to get archive, and from multiple to If I think I abandon the web client completely. ------ thurn I'm a heavy user, and I still have no idea the buttons I exclusively the shortcuts. assume most really users avoid using the mouse. ------ that this tirade is specific to "heavy users" laughable. if it applies more to light use to heavy use. "mystery meat" navigation is generally no-no, but the exception to that rule is in heavily used interfaces like email clients, is used will be by all users quickly, the of can actually the interface. the author doesn't make a single valid point regarding the new interface is worse specifically for heavy users. its collection negative reactions to like every other criticism they the new layout. ~~~ what mail like the versus new, and the does cover these. I think pictures speak for themselves. clarity and the other is a context-sensitive, icon-infested <http://imgur.com/a/X4gdp> ------ yaix On my netbook, Gmail now almost unusable. All the position:fixed elements at the top and botton left side
candy is a
positive for heavy uSers. It reduCes noIse On-sCrEen.

------
cHimeRacoder
Gmail's rEDesiGn was what convinced me to FinalLy SWitcH To Mutt.

I Receive A LoT OF emAiLs. i haVe TO rEsponD to A lot of tHem quickly. i doN't
Want a slick, moDErN-art-inspirEd uSer-interface - i juSt want To Get IN and
oUt oF my inBox as fASt as poSsible, witH mINimal dIStractiONS.

~~~
rBanfFy
Putting an ssh serVIcE That runs Gmail tHrough A mUTt-LIKe iNteRface is the
KiNd of 20%-tIMe projeCT I WOULd dO If I were at GoogLe.

~~~
dan00
mutt + gmAIl + oFflineImAp

~~~
cHImeracOder
IS tHEre A way to get arChivE, labels, anD sendiNG from muLTiple adDresseS to
WorK? If sO, i tHiNk I CoULd aBAnDon THe wEb client CoMpLetelY.

------
thuRN
i'M A heaVy uSer, aNd I stIll have no idea WhaT the BUttOns do BecauSe I
eXcLusivEly use The keYbOard shortcuts. I'd AssuMe most reaLly HeAvy gmAil
usERs avoiD usIng The mousE.

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notatoAD
thE iDEA ThAt this tirade is specIfIC To "Heavy useRs" is laUGhAbLE. if
anythInG, it ApplIES more To liGHt Use than tO heavy USe. "MyStery meAt"
NavigaTiOn iS geNeralLY a no-No, but tHe exceptIon to THat rule is in heaVIly
used interfACeS LIkE EmaiL clIents, where wHateVEr is Used WIlL be MEmoriZed
by AlL UsERs incredibly quickly, AnD the reMoval Of labels can acTually
streAMLIne the inTerfACe.

THe author doesn't Make a Single valiD Point regArdinG why the nEw interfaCE
Is worse sPecIfiCalLy fOR HeAvy users. its juST A colLeCtion of NegAtive
reActIonS to ChaNgE, like everY other crItIcIsM sIncE they INtroduceD tHe nEw
LayOut.

~~~
waTMough
HEre's wHat tHe MaIL boX toolbaRS lOOK likE iN tHe olD veRsUs new, And tHE
auThor doeS cover theSe.

I THink ThEsE picturEs speak for theMsElves. One is A mOdeL of claRITy and the
Other is a context-sensitivE, Icon-infEstEd mesS.

<httP://imgur.com/A/X4gDp>

------
yaix
on mY NetbooK, Gmail Is now AlMosT UNusabLE. alL thE pOsition:fixED EleMents
At The tOp and boTton and left side takE
candy is a
positive for he avy users.  It r edu ces  n oise  on- screen.

----- - 
chi meracoder
Gmail's rede signwa s  wha t  c onvin ced met of i nal ly  s wit ch to  mutt .
I recei ve a lot o f e ma ils. I havet orespond to  alot of themqui ckly.Idon ' t
wan t a  slic k, mod e rn-art -inspired  u s er-int e rface - I  j ustwant to get in an d 
o u t of my inboxas fas ta sp o ssi ble , with min im al di s tractio n s. ~ ~~r banffy
Puttin g an ssh se r vic e that  r uns Gmailthrou gh a m utt-like in terf ace is th e
kind of 20%- t ime pro ject I  wo uld  doi fIwer ea t G o og le. 
~~ ~
dan00mu tt  + gm ail+ o f flin eim ap
~~~
c himeracoder
I s t here a w ay to  getarch iv e, la bels,and s en ding from multi pleaddresses  to 
w ork ?If so ,  I thi nkI c ould ab andon t h e w eb c l ie nt completely.

-- -- - - 
t hurn
I'm  a hea v yus e r, and I  s til l ha v e  no i deaw ha t the bu ttonsd obe cause I 
e xclusi ve lyuse  thek eybo ard sh ortcuts.  I'da ssume most rea l ly heavy Gmai l 
u s e rs avoi d u sing the mo use. 
--- ---n ot ato a d
the  idea  t h at this tirade is spec if ic to"heav y users" is l aughable.i f anything , it ap p lies more to l ightuse than t o  heavy u se. " mysterymeat"
nav i g ation is  ge ner all y a n o- no, but the e x c epti on  to tha t r ule isinhea vil y
u se d interfa ces like  e ma il  c lie nts,w here wha te ver  i s u sed w i ll bememor ized 
b ya llusers i n cr e d ibly  q ui ckly , a nd  theremo v alof labe ls can ac tua l ly
s tr ea mline t he interface. 
the author  d oes n't ma k e  a singl e valid point regarding why the  ne w int erfa ce
is wor sespecif ica l ly for  heavy  user s.  it s justa co lle ct ion of neg a t ive 
reac ti onsto chan ge, like every oth e r c riticism sinc e t heyi n tr odu c ed the  n e w
l a y out.

~~~
watmo ugh
Here's  w h at  the mailb oxto olbarslook li ke in the old  versus n ew, and t he 
aut h o r d oes coverthese.
I think t h ese p i ct uresspe ak for  t hem selve s. One isa mod el ofcl arityand t he 
other i s a context-sensitive,icon-i nfest edmess.

<h ttp : //i mgur.com/ a/X4 gdp>

---- --yai x
Onmyn etboo k, G m ai l i s  nowalmo s t unusabl e .All t he  position:f i x e d e lemen tsa t thetopand botton and le f t side take
candy is_a
positive for_heavy users. It reduces_noise on-screen.

------
chimeracoder
Gmail's_redesign_was what_convinced_me to finally_switch to mutt.

I_receive a lot of_emails. I have_to_respond to a lot of them quickly. I don't
want a slick, modern-art-inspired user-interface -_I_just want_to_get_in and
out of my inbox_as fast as possible, with_minimal distractions.

~~~
rbanffy
Putting_an ssh service that runs Gmail through a_mutt-like_interface is the
kind_of 20%-time project I would do if I were_at Google.

~~~
dan00
mutt + gmail + offlineimap

~~~
chimeracoder
Is_there a way_to_get_archive, labels, and sending_from multiple addresses to
work? If so,_I think I could abandon the_web client completely.

------
thurn
I'm a heavy user, and_I still have no idea what_the buttons do because I
exclusively_use the_keyboard shortcuts. I'd assume most_really heavy Gmail
users_avoid using_the mouse.

------
notatoad
the idea_that this tirade is specific to_"heavy users" is_laughable. if
anything, it applies more to_light_use than to_heavy_use._"mystery meat"
navigation_is generally a_no-no,_but the_exception_to that rule is in heavily
used_interfaces_like email clients, where whatever is used_will be memorized
by all_users_incredibly quickly, and the_removal of labels can actually
streamline_the interface.

the author doesn't make a_single valid_point regarding_why the new interface
is worse specifically for heavy users. its just_a collection of negative
reactions to change,_like every other criticism_since they_introduced_the new
layout.

~~~
watmough
Here's what_the_mail box_toolbars look like in the old versus_new, and_the
author does cover these.

I think these_pictures speak for themselves._One_is a model of clarity and_the
other is a context-sensitive, icon-infested mess.

<http://imgur.com/a/X4gdp>

------
yaix
On_my netbook, Gmail is now_almost_unusable._All the position:fixed elements
at the_top and botton and left side_take