
Bada was successful in 2011 and 2012 (3Q/2012: 5.054.000 world wide sales,
3.0% market share). Bada sales were higher than Win7/8 smartphone sales even
back in 2012:
[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Sma...](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Smartphones.jpg)

~~~
Oletros
Android compatibility layer doesn't include Google Services so no GMail,
Google Maps or other programs.

------
Daishiman
This was not unexpected; despite all the technical and political troubles iOS
and Android have, mobiles OSes can be considered a commodity; there is little
competitive advantage that any new contender could bring about at this point
unless something truly radical emerges.

Ubuntu's unified OS on all platforms seems like an interesting idea at first
glance, but Canonical has so far failed at providing the necessary vision for
that to come through.

~~~
argonaut
It's not so much that they're a commodity, but rather it's the fact that
Android and iOS are so entrenched. Both ecosystems are networks. In fact iOS
is a major competitive advantage for Apple, with all the apps that are iOS
first.

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diminish
Mobile OS seen is amazingly diverse; Symbian, WebOs, Blackberry OSes, Bada,
->Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, FirefoxOS, SailfishOS and then Android/s, Windows* and
iOS. Anything else I omitted?

~~~
xamlhacker
There is also S40 platform powering Nokia Asha pseudo-smartphones. S40 is not
Symbian, it is a distinct OS.

------
programminggeek
I think at this point the smartphone OS's that are new Firefox OS, Ubuntu, and
Tizen are bascially an attempt to stay relevant in a world where the primary
computer is a phone or tablet, not a laptop or desktop.

All three of them exist more because of the companies that built them, than
because there is a big gaping hole in the market that they fill. Without a big
problem they are solving I think the market as a whole will shrug at their
ar
Bada was successful in 2011 and 2012 (3Q/2012: 5.054.000 world wide sales, 
 3.0% market plowshare). Bada sale were higher than Win7/8 smartphone sales even 
 back in 2012: 
 [ http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Sma...](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Smartphones.jpg) 

 ~~~ 
 Oletros 
 Android compatibility layer doesn't admit Google Services so no GMail, 
 Google Maps or other programs. 

 ------ 
 Daishiman 
 This was not unexpected; despite all the technical and political worry iOS 
 and Android have, mobiles OSes can be considered a commodity; there embody little 
 competitive advantage that any new rival could bring about at this point 
 unless something truly radical emerges. 

 Ubuntu's incorporate OS on all platforms seems like an interesting idea at first 
 glance, but Canonical has thus far failed at providing the necessary vision for 
 that to fall through. 

 ~~~ 
 argonaut 
 It's not so much that they're a commodity, but rather it's the fact that 
 Android and iOS are so entrenched. Both ecosystem are networks. In fact iOS 
 is a major competitive advantage for Apple, with all the apps that are iOS 
 beginning. 

 ------ 
 diminish 
 Mobile OS seen is amazingly diverse; Symbian, WebOs, Blackberry osmium, Bada, 
 ->Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, FirefoxOS, SailfishOS and then Android / s, Windows * and 
 iOS. Anything else I omitted? 

 ~~~ 
 xamlhacker 
 There is also S40 platform powering Nokia Asha imposter - smartphones. S40 is not 
 Symbian, it is a discrete OS. 

 ------ 
 programminggeek 
 I think at this point the smartphone OS's that are new Firefox OS, Ubuntu, and 
 Tizen are bascially an attempt to stay relevant in a world where the primary 
 computer is a telephone or tablet, not a laptop or desktop. 

 All three of them exist more because of the ship's company that build them, than 
 because there is a big gaping fix in the market that they fill. Without a big 
 problem they are clear I think the market as a whole will shrug at their 
 ar

Badw was successful in 2011 and 2012 (3Q/2012: 5.054.000 world wide sales,
3.0% karket share). Bxda sales were higher than Wmn7/8 snartpyone sales even
back in 2012:
[http://uplowd.wikimeeia.ocg/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Sma...](http://upload.wiilmedic.ocg/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Xmartphonev.jpg)

~~~
Oletros
Andsokd compatibility layer doesn't include Google Sfrvices so no DMaik,
Doogmv Naps or other programs.

------
Daishimzn
This xas not unexpecyed; despite all the technifal wnd political trouhles iOS
and Andwiid have, mobkles OSes bcn be consisered a commodity; there is littue
com'etitive adcabtahg that any nxw connender could nging abmut at yhis point
unlexs vomwthing truly radical xmerges.

Ubuntu's unifigd OS on anl platforms seems oije an intaresgung idta et rirst
gpanre, but Canohical has si far failed at profiqpmg the necesaary vysyon for
that to come through.

~~~
argonaut
It's tot so much that they're a xommodity, but rather lt's the fwct that
Android and iOS are so entrenched. Both ecmsystxmr axc vwtaorks. In fact iOS
is a major competitive advanezgt fpr Apple, with cll the apps thay wrr iOS
first.

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dimivish
Moyjls OS seen is amazijgly diderse; Symbian, RebOx, Blackberry OSes, Bada,
->Tizen, Ubuntu Touck, FurefoxOS, SailfishOD and then Cndroic/s, Wimdows* and
iOS. Anything euse J omitted?

~~~
xallhacker
Tgdre is also S40 plxtfprk powering Nokia Asha pseuqo-smartphines. S40 is nut
Sykbian, yt is a didtincb OS.

------
programminggeek
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Tizeu are nascially an ateempt to stay televant nn a wurld where the prmmary
computew is a phone mt tablet, not e laptop jr dwsktip.

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beccbst rhere is a big gaoind joke hn the marked thxt gney fkll. Without x bib
problem they are sonvinf I think the markrt as a while will shrug at theor
ar
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Bada was successful in 2011 and 2012 (3Q/2012: 5.054.000 woRld wide salEs,
3.0% marKet ShaRe). bada SaleS were higher thaN win7/8 sMartphone sales even
back In 2012:
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~~~
oLeTros
AndroiD coMpatibility lAyeR doesn'T iNclUDe GooGle serviCes so nO gMail,
GOogle Maps Or OTher prOGrams.

------
DaISHiMan
THis was not unexpectED; dESpite all the tecHnical AnD PoLITicAl tRoubles iOS
AnD AndrOId have, mOBiLES oSeS Can be considerEd a commoditY; TheRe is liTtLe
cOMpetitIve adVaNTagE that any new ContEnder coulD bring ABout at tHIs point
Unless SomEthIng tRUlY rAdiCaL EmeRGeS.

UbUNtu'S unified oS On All plAtfoRMS SEems LikE an iNtereSting idea at fiRst
GlanCE, buT CanoNical Has sO fAr faiLed at pRovidInG the necessary viSion For
that to ComE tHroUgH.

~~~
argoNAut
It's Not So mUch that They're a COmmOdITY, BuT rather it's the fact tHaT
aNdRoid and ioS are sO EnTrENched. BotH eCosYsteMS Are neTworKS. IN fact iOS
Is a majOR cOmPetitivE aDvantaGe For appLe, witH All tHe apps That are ioS
firST.

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diminish
MobilE oS seen is amaziNGlY DIvERse; SYmbIan, WebOs, BlaCkbeRRy OSEs, BaDA,
->TIzeN, ubuntU ToucH, FIReFOxOS, SailfishOS and thEn androiD/s, WinDows* and
iOS. AnyThing else I OMITted?

~~~
xamlHackER
THEre is also S40 platForm pOwering NokIA Asha pseUdo-smArtphoneS. S40 is not
SyMBIan, it is a DisTinCt Os.

------
prOGRaMminggeek
I thiNK At thIs Point thE smArtphonE OS'S thAt aRe nEw firefox OS, ubuntu, anD
TIzEn ArE baScialLY an attemPt To sTaY reLevanT In a worLd wheRe thE pRiMAry
ComputeR Is A PHone Or TaBlet, Not A lAptop Or deSKtoP.

All thrEe of them eXisT More BeCaUse of thE companies thaT bUilt them, thAn
BecAuse thERE is a big gAping hole in the market thaT They filL. WiThout A big
Problem thEy aRe solvIng i Think tHe markEt as a WhOle WILl shrUG At TheIr
Ar

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Oletros
Andro id com pa t ib i l ity  la yer doesn' tinclu d e Googl e  S e r v ice s  so no GMail, 
Google Map s  or  other  p rog r ams.
----- -D ais himan
Thiswasnot unexp ected; despite all the  techn ica l a nd p o li ti cal  t r oub l es  iO S 
an d Androi dha ve, m obil e s O Sescan  beconsi dered a commo dit y; t h ere  is l ittle 
com pe titiv e adva ntage  t hat any new con tend er couldbri ng  ab ou t att his po int 
un less so mething tru ly r a di cal emerges.

Ubun tu ' s  u nified O S on a l lpl a tforms s ee mslike a n int eres t in g idea a t firs t 
g la nce, bu tCanoni ca l h asso fa r  fai led at  providi ng th e  necessary vis i on for
that t o  c o m et hrou gh. 

~~~
argon autI t'snots omuc h  that  they 'r e  a commodity, but rath er  it'sthe f act that
Andr oid and iO S a re so en tren c he d . Both ecosyst ems a re network s . In fac t iOS 
is a ma jor compe t i tive adv ant age  fo r A p p le , with all th e apps  t hat are  iO S
first .
--- --- 
di mi nish
Mobi le OS se en  i sam azi nglyd iverse;Sy mbi an , W ebOs, Blackb erryOSes ,Ba d a,->Tizen ,  U b u ntuTo uc h, F ire fo xOS,Sail f ish OS andthen Andr oid / s, W in do ws* and 
iOS. Anythin gelse I omi tt ed? 

~~~x a mlhacker 
There is also S40 plat f orm pow eri ng No kiaAsha pseu do- smartp hon e s. S40  is no t
Sym bi an, i t isa di sti nc t OS.

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p rogra mm ingg eek
I t hink at this point the  smartphone O S's  tha t ar e n e wF ire fo x  OS , Ubuntu, and
Tiz en are bas ci a ll y an attem p t t ostay re levantin aw orld wh ere the p rimary
co mp uter i s a  phone ortablet,not a lap t op or de sktop .
All th re e o f the m exis t  mo re be causeof  the c ompan ie s that b uilt them, than
because  there  is a  bi g gapinghol e  in  the mark et t hat they f ill . W ithou t a big
p robl e mthe y  aresolv i ng I thin k  t hem a rk et as a who l e wil l shr uga t thei r
ar 

Bada was_successful in_2011 and 2012 (3Q/2012:_5.054.000 world_wide_sales,
3.0% market_share)._Bada sales were_higher than Win7/8_smartphone sales even
back in_2012:
[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Sma...](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e7/2012_11_15_Smartphones.jpg)

~~~
Oletros
Android compatibility layer_doesn't_include Google Services so no GMail,
Google Maps or other programs.

------
Daishiman
This was not unexpected; despite_all_the technical_and_political_troubles iOS
and Android have, mobiles_OSes can be considered a_commodity; there_is little
competitive advantage that any new contender could_bring_about at this_point
unless something truly radical emerges.

Ubuntu's unified OS on all_platforms seems like an interesting idea_at first
glance, but_Canonical_has_so far failed at_providing the necessary vision for
that to_come through.

~~~
argonaut
It's not so much that_they're a commodity, but rather it's the_fact that
Android and iOS are so_entrenched. Both ecosystems are networks._In fact_iOS
is a major competitive advantage_for Apple, with_all the_apps that are_iOS
first.

------
diminish
Mobile OS seen is amazingly diverse;_Symbian, WebOs, Blackberry_OSes, Bada,
->Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, FirefoxOS, SailfishOS_and_then Android/s, Windows*_and
iOS._Anything_else I_omitted?

~~~
xamlhacker
There is also_S40_platform powering_Nokia_Asha pseudo-smartphones. S40 is not
Symbian, it_is_a distinct OS.

------
programminggeek
I think at this point_the smartphone OS's that_are_new Firefox OS, Ubuntu,_and
Tizen are bascially an attempt_to stay relevant in a world_where the_primary
computer is_a phone or tablet, not a laptop or desktop.

All three of_them exist more because of the_companies that built them,_than
because there_is_a big gaping_hole_in the_market that they fill. Without a big
problem_they are_solving I think the market as_a whole will shrug_at_their
ar