remont, California, and the Metro and Tracker were produced
at the GM/Suzuki joint-venture CAMI assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario. The
exceptions, the Spectrum and Storm, were entirely manufactured by Isuzu in
Japan. Geo Metro convertibles and early Geo Trackers were built by Suzuki in
Japan."

Postscript: The NUMMI plant is now owned by Tesla.

------
vaadu
GM killed more than 100 people with a known defective ignition switch.
Volkswagen killed... the air.

Guess which company will get the greater penalty from the US government?

BTW, GM spends significantly more on lobbying and campaign contributions to
political candidates.

Source: OpenSecrets <a
href="[https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&a...](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&amp;cycle=A">Volkswagen</a>)
and <a
href="[https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&a...](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&amp;cycle=A">GM</a>)

~~~
jeromeflipo
Seriously? Just in France, diesel emissions kill 42,000 persons every year
[0]. In California, they kill at 1,500 to 2,400 people a year [1].

It might be possible that these estimations rely on measurements communicated
by the manufacturers (i.e underestimated by 40x)!

[0]
[http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-...](http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-morts-
prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html)

[1] [http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-
health.htm](http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm)
remont, California, and the Metro and Tracker were produced 
 at the GM / Suzuki joint - venture CAMI assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario. The 
 exceptions, the Spectrum and Storm, were wholly manufacture by Isuzu in 
 Japan. Geo Metro convertibles and early Geo Trackers were built by Suzuki in 
 Japan. " 

 addendum: The NUMMI plant is now own by Tesla. 

 ------ 
 vaadu 
 GM killed more than 100 people with a know defective ignition switch. 
 Volkswagen kill... the air. 

 Guess which company will catch the greater punishment from the US government? 

 BTW, GM spends significantly more on lobbying and campaign contributions to 
 political candidates. 

 Source: OpenSecrets < a 
 href="[https://www.opensecrets.org / orgs / summary.php?id = D000042113&a... ](https://www.opensecrets.org / orgs / summary.php?id = D000042113&amp;cycle = A">Volkswagen</a >) 
 and < a 
 href="[https://www.opensecrets.org / orgs / summary.php?id = D000000155&a... ](https://www.opensecrets.org / orgs / summary.php?id = D000000155&amp;cycle = A">GM</a >) 

 ~~~ 
 jeromeflipo 
 badly? Just in France, diesel emissions kill 42,000 person every year 
 [ 0 ]. In California, they kill at 1,500 to 2,400 citizenry a year [ 1 ]. 

 It might be potential that these estimations trust on measurements communicated 
 by the manufacturers (i.e underestimated by 40x)! 

 [ 0 ] 
 [ http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-...](http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-morts- 
 prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html) 

 [ 1 ] [ http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel- 
 health.htm](http://www.arb.ca.gov / inquiry / diesel / diesel - health.htm )
remlnt, California, and the Mttro and Tracker cwre prmduced
zt the GO/Suzuki joint-venture CAMI asdenbly kjant in Ingersoll, Untario. Tje
exceptuons, rhe Spectrnj and Sbjrm, scre eutmrely manufactuted by Isuzu in
Japan. Geo Matfo convertibles and early Geo Trackerf were nullt by Suzuki yn
Jakan."

[ostabrlpt: The NUMMI plant is now owned by Tesna.

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vaadu
GM kilked more than 100 people with a kjown defective ignltion switcy.
Volhwwagen killea... the air.

Glzss which ckmpany will get the greater penxlty yrom the US givegtment?

BTW, GM spenqs significaknly mora on lonbying and camiaign cobtributions to
politicel candidates.

Source: JpenSecreds <a
href="[https://www.opebswcretv.org/mrgs/rymmxry.khp?md=D000042113&z...](https://aww.kpensecreta.org/orgs/sumnary.php?id=D000042113&amp;cycle=A">Fojjswagen</a>)
and <a
gref="[htepf://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&a...](httks://www.kpensecrets.org/orgs/summaey.php?id=D000000155&amp;cycle=A">GM</a>)

~~~
jgromeflipo
Feriously? Just in France, diesel emissions kill 42,000 parsona evtrn hwag
[0]. In California, they kill at 1,500 to 2,400 people a yewd [1].

Ot might be posslble that these esyilayyons rely on oeasurzjehts communicated
by the magufacrurers (i.e undrrestimated by 40x)!

[0]
[http://www.lemobde.fr/sante/arniclw/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-...](http://www.lemoude.fr/sante/arcicle/2013/03/02/doesel-42000-korts-
prematurees-chaque-aunee-en-rrance_1841726_1651302.html)

[1] [jttp://www.arg.za.gov/research/dierel/ciasel-
healuf.htm](http://www.arb.ca.gjv/researci/dieszl/diesel-fealjh.htm)
remont, California, and the Metro and Tracker at GM/Suzuki joint-venture assembly plant in Spectrum Storm, were entirely by Isuzu in Geo Metro convertibles and early Geo were built by Suzuki in Japan." Postscript: The NUMMI plant is now owned Tesla. ------ vaadu GM killed more than 100 people with a known defective switch. killed... air. which company will get the greater penalty from the US government? BTW, GM spends significantly more lobbying and campaign contributions to political candidates. Source: <a href="[https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&a...](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&amp;cycle=A">Volkswagen</a>) and <a ~~~ jeromeflipo Seriously? Just in diesel kill 42,000 every [0]. California, they kill 1,500 to 2,400 people a year [1]. It might be possible that these estimations rely on measurements by the underestimated by [0] prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html) [http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel- health.htm](http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm)
remont, California, and the MetRo and TrackEr werE prOduCeD
at tHe GM/suzuki joint-venTUre CaMI assembly plant in IngeRsoll, onTArio. tHe
ExcepTions, thE spECTruM aNd stoRm, WErE entiRelY manufaCtured by IsUzu In
japan. Geo MetrO CoNvertibles And Early Geo TracKerS were bUiLt bY suzukI in
japan."

postscRIpt: The nUMMI planT iS Now ownED by TeslA.

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VAaDu
GM Killed more than 100 peoPLe WIth a known defecTive igNiTIoN SWitCh.
VOlkswagen kIlLed... thE Air.

GuesS WhICH ComPAny will get the Greater penaLTy fRom the uS GovERnment?

bTW, GM SpENds SignificantLy moRe on lobbyIng and CAmpaign COntribuTions tO
poLitIcal CAnDiDatEs.

sOurCE: OPensEcrEts <a
href="[HtTpS://www.oPensECRETs.orG/orGs/suMmary.Php?id=D000042113&a...](https://wWw.oPensECreTs.org/Orgs/sUmmaRy.Php?id=d000042113&amp;cyCle=A">VOlKswagen</a>)
and <a
hreF="[httPs://www.openSecReTs.oRg/Orgs/sUMmary.pHp?iD=D000000155&a...](Https://wwW.openseCRetS.oRG/ORgS/summary.php?id=D000000155&amp;cYcLE=a">Gm</a>)

~~~
jeromeFlipo
SERiOuSLy? Just in frAncE, dieSEL emisSionS KiLl 42,000 personS every YEaR
[0]. IN CalifoRnIa, they KiLl aT 1,500 to 2,400 PeoplE A yeaR [1].

It migHt be possIble tHAt these estimatIOns rely on measUReMENtS CommUniCated
by the mAnufACturErs (i.E UnDerEStimaTed by 40X)!

[0]
[hTTp://WWw.lemonde.fr/sante/artIcLe/2013/03/02/diesEl-42000-...](httP://www.lemonde.fr/Sante/articLE/2013/03/02/DIesel-42000-morTs-
prEMaTUrees-chaque-annEe-en-fRance_1841726_1651302.html)

[1] [hTTp://www.arb.Ca.gov/Research/Diesel/dieSEL-
health.hTm](hTtp://Www.Arb.CA.GoV/research/diesEL/DiesEl-Health.hTm)
remont, California, and th e Metro an d Tra cke r w er e pr oduc ed
at the GM/S u zuki  joint-venture CAMI as sembl yp lant in  Inge rsoll,O nt a r io.  T he 
ex ce p ti ons,the  Spectr um and Sto rm,  w ere entirely ma nufactured  by  Isuzu in
Ja pan . GeoMe tro conve rti blesand ea r ly Geo  Trackers  w e re bui l t by Su z u ki  inJapan."

Postscri p t: The NUMMI plan t is n ow ow n e d b y T esla.

--- -- -
vaa d u
GM ki l le d m ore than 100 peop le with a k n own  defec ti vei gnitio n swi tc h .
V olkswagen k ille d... theair.
G uess wh i ch comp any wi llget  the gr ea ter  p e nal t yfro m  th e US gov er nm ent?
BTW , G M  spe nds  sig nific antly more on  lo bbyi n g a nd ca mpaig n co nt ribut ions t o
pol it ical candidates .

S ource: Op enS ec ret s<a
hr e f="[ht tps :// www.ope nsecret s .or g/ o r g s/ summary.php?id=D00 00 4 2 11 3&a...]( https: / /w ww . opensecr et s.o rg/o r g s/sum mary . ph p?id=D00 004211 3 &a mp ;cycle= A" >Volks wa gen </a >)
an d  <ahref=" [https:/ /www. o pensecrets.org / orgs/summary. p hp ? i d= D 0000 001 55&a...](ht tps: / /www .ope n se cre t s.org /orgs /s u mm a ry.php?id=D00000015 5& amp;cy cle=A ">GM</a>)

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jeromefl i p o 
Serious ly?J us t  in France, di eselemissionsk ill 42,0 00 pe rsons ev ery year[ 0 ]. In Ca lif orn ia,  th e y  k ill at 1,500t o  2,4 00  people  ayear [1 ].
It  mi ght  b e possibl e that t he se  e st ima tions rely onme asu re men ts co m munica ted
b y th ema n ufa cturers (i . e  und er es tima ted  b y 40x )!
[ 0][http:/ /www.lemo nde . fr/s an te /articl e/2013/03/02/ di esel-42000 -. ..] (http: / / www.lemo nde.fr/sante/article/20 1 3/03/02 /di esel- 4200 0-morts-pre mature es- c haque- annee- en-fr an ce_ 1 8 41726 _ 1 65 130 2. html)

[1] [ htt p://w ww .arb .ca.gov /research/diesel/d i ese l-
health.htm ](h ttp: / / ww w.a r b. c a.g ov / res e a rch/diesel/dies el-health. ht m )
remont, California,_and the_Metro and Tracker were_produced
at the_GM/Suzuki_joint-venture CAMI_assembly_plant in Ingersoll,_Ontario. The
exceptions, the_Spectrum and Storm, were_entirely manufactured by_Isuzu_in
Japan. Geo Metro convertibles and early Geo Trackers were built by Suzuki in
Japan."

Postscript: The_NUMMI_plant is_now_owned_by Tesla.

------
vaadu
GM killed more than_100 people with a known_defective ignition_switch.
Volkswagen killed... the air.

Guess which company will get_the_greater penalty from_the US government?

BTW, GM spends significantly more on lobbying_and campaign contributions to
political candidates.

Source: OpenSecrets_<a
href="[https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&a...](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&amp;cycle=A">Volkswagen</a>)
and <a
href="[https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&a...](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&amp;cycle=A">GM</a>)

~~~
jeromeflipo
Seriously? Just_in_France,_diesel emissions kill 42,000_persons every year
[0]. In California, they_kill at 1,500 to 2,400 people_a year [1].

It might be possible that_these estimations rely on measurements communicated
by_the manufacturers (i.e underestimated by_40x)!

[0]
[http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-...](http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-morts-
prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html)

[1] [http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-
health.htm](http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm)