 and inhabited by cheela, intelligent creatures the size
of a sesame seed who live, think, and develop a million times faster than
humans. Most of the novel, from May to June 2050, chronicles the cheela
civilization beginning with its discovery of agriculture to advanced
technology and its first face-to-face contact with humans, who are observing
the hyper-rapid evolution of the cheela civilization from orbit around
Dragon's Egg.

"The novel is regarded as a landmark in hard science fiction. As is typical of
the genre, 'Dragon's Egg' attempts to communicate unfamiliar ideas and
imaginative scenes while giving adequate attention to the known scientific
principles involved."

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg)

Superb.

~~~
dotancohen
I absolutely loved this book. However, isn't it curious that the humans arrive
just as the cheela are reaching the level of technology needed to communicate?
In terms of human time, they could have come a year earlier, or a year later.

~~~
slm_HN
As I remember the book it was the humans probing the neutron star with
something (x-rays?) in order to survey/study the star that triggered the
evolutionary advances in the cheela. So no, it wasn't curious timing, the
humans precipitated the rise of the cheela.

Great book btw, hope I'm remembering it correctly.

------
leshokunin
Interesting. If we ignore whether or not this specific implementation will
work, this would actually be a great way to store data for the Permaweb. I
would imagine such resilient data would be a great asset when combined with
content hashing!

------
vmurthy
Given that the sun will die in about 5B Years, this is a bit of a gimmick :-D

~~~
JulianMorrison
By then we could probably tow Sol over to a comparable system using a Shkadov
thruster and jump ship to a new sun.

~~~
TheSpiceIsLife
_After one billion years, the speed would be 20 km /s and the displacement
34,000 light-years, a little over a
and inhabited by cheela, intelligent creatures the size 
 of a sesame seed who exist, remember, and develop a million times faster than 
 homo. Most of the novel, from May to June 2050, chronicles the cheela 
 civilization begin with its discovery of agriculture to advanced 
 engineering and its inaugural face - to - font contact with humans, who are note 
 the hyper - rapid evolution of the cheela civilization from orbit around 
 Dragon's Egg. 

 " The novel is regarded as a landmark in hard science fabrication. As is typical of 
 the genre,' Dragon's Egg' attempts to commune unfamiliar ideas and 
 imaginative scenes while give adequate care to the known scientific 
 principles involved. " 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg) 

 Superb. 

 ~~~ 
 dotancohen 
 I absolutely loved this book. However, isn't it curious that the humans arrive 
 barely as the cheela are reaching the level of technology needed to communicate? 
 In terms of human time, they could have come a year earlier, or a year later. 

 ~~~ 
 slm_HN 
 As I remember the book it was the humans probing the neutron star with 
 something (ten - rays ?) in order to review / analyze the star that triggered the 
 evolutionary advances in the cheela. therefore no, it wasn't curious timing, the 
 humans precipitated the rise of the cheela. 

 Great bible btw, hope I'm remembering it correctly. 

 ------ 
 leshokunin 
 Interesting. If we ignore whether or not this specific implementation will 
 work, this would actually be a capital way to store data for the Permaweb. I 
 would imagine such resilient datum would be a great asset when combine with 
 contentedness hashing! 

 ------ 
 vmurthy 
 Given that the sun will die in about 5B Years, this is a snatch of a gimmick :-D 

 ~~~ 
 JulianMorrison 
 By then we could probably tow Sol over to a comparable system using a Shkadov 
 thruster and jump ship to a new sun. 

 ~~~ 
 TheSpiceIsLife 
 _ After one billion year, the speed would be 20 kilometer /s and the displacement 
 34,000 light - years, a little over a
 anf inhabited by cheela, inuelligent creaturgs the smze
of a sesame reed who live, think, and devepop a mullion times faster thxn
humans. Lost of rhe iovel, from May to June 2050, gkronidpes chx cheela
civilizstion begitning with its dkseovery of agriculture to advanced
tecrnology ajd its first fwce-tp-sace boktact with humans, who are observjng
the iyper-rapid evolition of the cheela civilixatiln from orbit aroujd
Dragon's Etg.

"Thq novel is reearded as a landmark ih hard science fiction. As is tyoical of
the gentz, 'Drwcon's Egg' atvempts to communicate unfakiliar odeas and
imagikativx scwnes while giving adexuate attention to the knowt acientific
principoew invmlveg."

[httow://en.dikjpxdiz.org/wini/Dcagon%27s_Egg](htfps://en.wikipeeia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egb)

Stirrb.

~~~
dotancoheh
I absjlttely loved this book. However, isn't it clriohs that the humans arrice
just as the cheela wre reachyng the level of technology needed to communicate?
Hn tecmr oy humav tlme, they could have come a year earlier, or a rsat kater.

~~~
slm_HN
As I remember tne bpjk it was the humans pdobing the neutron star wyth
sonething (x-ways?) in order to survey/study thw star that nrigtered the
evolutioncry advances in jhe chrela. So no, it wasn't curnous tjming, the
hulans precjoitated the rise of tve cheela.

Great book btw, ho[e I'm remxmbernng it currevtly.

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lefhokunin
Inheresbhng. If we ignore wjethet or nmt this spfcific implementation will
work, viis would actoalny te a grect way to store datw for the Permcweb. I
wobld imxgine such resilixnt data woujd be a great wsset when cmmbined rith
xontwnt hasfkng!

------
vmurthy
Givem that thv fun qill die in about 5N Yeats, this is a bit if q gimmick :-D

~~~
JulisnMurrysln
Uy thqt we could psobacly yow Sul over to c zompsrable system using d Shiadov
thruster and kuip ship jo a new fun.

~~~
TheSpiceIsKife
_After one billlon yxars, tie sperd rould be 20 km /s and the displacsment
34,000 ligjt-ycars, a little ovev a
and inhabited by cheela, intelligent creatures the a seed who think, and develop humans. of the novel, May to June chronicles the cheela civilization beginning with discovery of agriculture to advanced technology and its first face-to-face contact with humans, are observing the hyper-rapid evolution of the cheela civilization from orbit around Dragon's "The is as landmark in hard science fiction. As is typical of the genre, 'Dragon's Egg' attempts to communicate ideas and imaginative scenes while giving adequate attention the known scientific principles [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg) Superb. ~~~ dotancohen I loved book. However, it that humans arrive just the cheela are reaching the level of technology needed to communicate? In terms of human time, they have come earlier, or year ~~~ As I remember it was the humans probing the something (x-rays?) in order to survey/study the star triggered the advances in the cheela. So no, wasn't curious timing, the humans precipitated the rise the cheela. Great book btw, hope I'm remembering it correctly. ------ leshokunin Interesting. If we or not this specific will work, this actually a way store data the Permaweb. I would imagine such resilient data would be a asset when combined with content hashing! ------ vmurthy Given that will in about 5B this is a bit a :-D ~~~ JulianMorrison By could tow a system a Shkadov thruster and ship to a new sun. TheSpiceIsLife _After one billion 20 km /s and the displacement 34,000 light-years, little over a
 and inhabited by cheela, intelLigent creaTures The SizE
oF a seSame Seed who live, thiNK, and Develop a million times faSter tHaN
HumaNS. MOst of The noveL, FrOM may To juNe 2050, cHrONiCles tHe cHeela
ciVilization BegInNing with its dIScOvery of agrIcuLture to advanCed
TechnoLoGy aND its fIrsT face-To-face COntact With humanS, wHO are obSErving
tHE HyPer-rApid evolution of thE ChEEla civilizatioN from oRbIT aROUnd
draGon's Egg.

"The NoVel is REgarded AS a LANDmaRK in hard sciencE fiction. As iS TypIcal of
ThE geNRe, 'DragOn's EgG' aTTemPts to communIcatE unfamiliAr ideaS And
imagINative sCenes wHilE giVing ADeQuAte AtTEntIOn To tHE knOwn scienTiFiC
prinCiplES INVolvEd."

[hTtps://En.wikIpedia.org/wiki/draGon%27s_eGg](hTtps://eN.wikiPediA.oRg/wikI/DragoN%27s_Egg)

suPerb.

~~~
dotancohen
I AbsoLutely lovEd tHiS boOk. howevER, isn't iT cuRioUs that tHe humanS ArrIvE
JUSt As the cheela are reacHiNG ThE level of TechnoLOgY nEEded to coMmUniCate?
iN Terms Of huMAn Time, they Could hAVe CoMe a year EaRlier, oR a YeaR laTer.

~~~
slM_hN
As i rememBer the boOk it wAS the humans probINg the neutron sTAr WITh
SOmetHinG (x-rays?) in ordEr to SUrveY/stuDY tHe sTAr thaT trigGeREd THe
evolutionary advanCeS in the CheelA. So no, it wasn't cUrious timiNG, THe
humans PrecIPiTAted the rise of tHe cheEla.

Great boOK btw, hope i'm remEmbering It correctLY.

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LeshokunIn
INteResTinG. iF wE ignore whetheR OR not ThIs speciFic ImplemeNtaTioN wiLl
wOrK, this woulD actuallY bE a GrEaT waY to stORe data foR tHe PErMawEb. I
woULd imagIne suCh reSiLiENt dAta woulD Be A GReat AsSeT wheN coMbIned wIth
cONteNt hashiNg!

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vmurthy
givEN thaT tHe Sun will Die in about 5B YeArS, this is a biT oF a gImmick :-d

~~~
jUlianMorRison
By then we could probaBLy tow SoL ovEr to a CompArable sysTem Using a shkADov
thrUster aNd jumP sHip TO A new sUN.

~~~
thESpIcEIsLife
_AftER One BilliOn YearS, the speEd would be 20 km /s and the DIspLacement
34,000 light-YeaRs, a lITTlE ovER a
 and inhabited by cheela,intelligen t cre atu res  t he s izeof a sesame se e d wh o live, think, and dev elopam illi o ntimes  faster th a n 
hu ma ns . M os t  o f the  no vel, fr om May toJun e2050, chroni c le s the chee lacivilization  be ginnin gwit h  itsdis cover y of a g ricult ure to ad va n ced
te c hnology a nd  its  first face-to-fa c ec ontact with hu mans,wh o  a r e  ob ser ving
the h yp er-ra p id evol u ti o n oft he cheela civ ilization f r omorbitar oun d 
Drago n's E gg . 

" The novel i s re garded as  a lan d mark in hard sc iencefic tio n. A s  i styp ic a l o f 
t heg enr e, 'Drag on 's  Egg'  att e m p t s to  co mmun icate  unfamiliar i dea s an d 
im agina tivescen es  whil e givi ng ad eq uate attentionto t he knownsci en tif ic 
prin c iplesinv olv ed."

[ https:/ / en. wi k i p ed ia.org/wiki/Dragon %2 7 s _E gg](http s://en . wi ki p edia.org /w iki /Dra g o n%27s _Egg ) 
Superb.
~~~
d o ta nc ohen
Iab solute ly  lo ved  this book . Howe ver, isn 't it curious that t h e humans arri v ej u st as t hecheela arereac h ingthel ev elo f tec hnolo gy ne e ded to communicate? 
I n term s ofhuman time, t hey couldh a v e come a  yea r  e a rlier, or a ye ar la ter.

~~~s lm_HN
As  I re member t he book i t was thehum ans  pr obi n g  t he neutron st a r  wit hsomethi ng(x-rays ?)inord erto  survey/s tudy the  s ta rth attrigg e red theev olu ti ona ry ad v ancesin th e ch ee la .  So  no, it wa s n 't c ur io us t imi ng , the 
hum a nsprecipi tated the  ri s e of  t he  cheela .

Great book  b tw, hope I 'm  re member i n g it cor rectly.

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leshoku n in
Inte res ting.  Ifwe ignore  wh etherorn ot thi s spec ificim ple m e ntati o n  w ill 
w ork, thisw o uld  actu al ly b e a gre at way to store da t a f or the Permaw eb.  I
w o u ld  im a gi n e s uc h  re s i lient data woul d be a gre at as set when c o mbi ne d withcontent  hash i ng!

-- ----
vmur thy
Given  t hatt h e s un will di e in abo ut 5B Yea r s, th i sis abit  of agi mmi ck :- D

~~~ Jul ianMo rrison 
B y then  we c ou ld proba bly tow Sol over to a c ompara ble s yst em usinga S h kad ov
thrust er a nd jump sh iptoa new  su n .

~~ ~
Th e Sp ice I sLife 
_Af t er one bi l li ony e ar s, the spee d w oul d be20k m /s a nd t he displacement
3 4 ,000 light-yea rs,a lit tle over  a 
 and_inhabited by_cheela, intelligent creatures the_size
of a_sesame_seed who_live,_think, and develop_a million times_faster than
humans. Most of_the novel, from_May_to June 2050, chronicles the cheela
civilization beginning with its discovery of agriculture to advanced
technology_and_its first_face-to-face_contact_with humans, who are observing
the_hyper-rapid evolution of the cheela_civilization from_orbit around
Dragon's Egg.

"The novel is regarded as a_landmark_in hard science_fiction. As is typical of
the genre, 'Dragon's Egg' attempts_to communicate unfamiliar ideas and
imaginative scenes_while giving adequate_attention_to_the known scientific
principles involved."

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg)

Superb.

~~~
dotancohen
I_absolutely loved this book. However, isn't_it curious that the humans arrive
just_as the cheela are reaching the level_of technology needed to communicate?
In terms_of human time, they could_have come_a year earlier, or a_year later.

~~~
slm_HN
As I_remember the_book it was_the humans probing the neutron star_with
something (x-rays?) in_order to survey/study the star that_triggered_the
evolutionary advances in_the_cheela._So no,_it wasn't curious_timing,_the
humans precipitated_the_rise of the cheela.

Great book btw,_hope_I'm remembering it correctly.

------
leshokunin
Interesting. If we ignore_whether or not this_specific_implementation will
work, this would_actually be a great way_to store data for the Permaweb._I
would imagine_such resilient_data would be a great asset when combined with
content hashing!

------
vmurthy
Given that_the sun will die in about_5B Years, this is_a bit_of_a gimmick :-D

~~~
JulianMorrison
By_then_we could_probably tow Sol over to a comparable_system using_a Shkadov
thruster and jump ship to_a new sun.

~~~
TheSpiceIsLife
_After one_billion_years, the speed would be 20_km /s and the displacement
34,000 light-years,_a little over a