 _does_ kill people is stigmatizing addicts, and preventing them from
getting the help they need to allow them to live a normal life and become
usefully employed. Instead, attitudes like yours mean they are forced to
become criminals and marginalized.

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rwallace
Okay, here's a warning if you haven't read this article yet. Up near the
beginning, there's a really, really unfortunate line about pot legalization
being the cause of this and that. I'm sure it's tongue in cheek, but that
doesn't come across in text, and people are tripping over it. Just skip over
that line and keep reading. The rest of the article is excellent.

~~~
burnitdown
It's not tounge in cheek. Pot sales dropped by 40% so they pivoted to heroin.

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joering2
I stopped reading after the lead:

> If you wonder why America is in the grips of a heroin epidemic that kills
> two hundred people a week

About 3,000 people died today and about 60,000 got seriously injured in car
accidents TODAY, according to ASIRT. I think the word "grips" is a bit of
stretch here, no?

> take a hard look at the legalization of pot, which destroyed the profits of
> the Mexican cartels.

How is that legalizing sales of Apples will somehow made Oranges' lovers to
switch? Hard to believe. Any proof of that??

~~~
thenewwazoo
> I think the word "grips" is a bit of stretch here, no?

No, because there isn't a $50bn domestic and >$10bn international market in
car deaths. There isn't a massive machine that perpetuates car deaths; indeed,
quite the opposite.

> Hard to believe. Any proof of that??

Yes: a 40% drop in profits from marijuana, and a corresponding spike in the
rate of production (and because supply/demand, a drop in the price) of heroin
in (and from) Mexico.

You really should have kept reading.

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graycat
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jjulius
You're using a browser version from January 2015 (it's currently at 48.0 as of
8/2/16),
_ does _ kill people is stigmatizing addicts, and prevent them from 
 get the help they need to allow them to survive a normal life and become 
 usefully employed. rather, attitude like yours mean they are storm to 
 become criminals and marginalized. 

 ------ 
 rwallace 
 Okay, here's a admonition if you haven't read this article yet. Up near the 
 beginning, there's a really, really inauspicious line about pot legalization 
 being the lawsuit of this and that. I'm sure it's tongue in impudence, but that 
 doesn't come across in text, and people are trip over it. Just skip over 
 that line and keep read. The rest of the article is excellent. 

 ~~~ 
 burnitdown 
 It's not tounge in cheek. Pot sales dropped by 40% so they pivot to heroin. 

 ------ 
 joering2 
 I stopped reading after the lead: 

 > If you wonder why America is in the grips of a heroin epidemic that kills 
 > two hundred people a workweek 

 approximately 3,000 multitude died today and about 60,000 got seriously injured in car 
 accidents TODAY, according to ASIRT. I think the news " grips " is a bit of 
 reach here, no? 

 > consume a intemperate look at the legalization of pot, which demolish the profits of 
 > the Mexican cartels. 

 How is that legalizing sales of Apples will somehow lay down Oranges' lovers to 
 switch? Hard to believe. Any proof of that? ? 

 ~~~ 
 thenewwazoo 
 > I think the word " grips " is a bit of stretch here, no? 

 No, because there isn't a $ 50bn domestic and > $ 10bn external market in 
 cable car deaths. There isn't a massive machine that perpetuates car deaths; indeed, 
 quite the opposition. 

 > Hard to believe. Any proof of that? ? 

 Yes: a 40% cliff in profits from marijuana, and a corresponding spike in the 
 rate of output (and because supply / need, a drop in the price) of heroin 
 in (and from) Mexico. 

 You truly should have kept read. 

 ------ 
 graycat 
 Deleted. 

 ~~~ 
 jjulius 
 You're practice a browser version from January 2015 (it's presently at 48.0 as of 
 8/2/16),
 _dofs_ kill people is stigmauizing addicts, anb preveiting tgem from
eetting the help they need tl qllow them to live a normal life and become
uwefuooy employev. Instead, attifmdes nmke yours mean jhey are forwed to
become csioiuals and marginalized.

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rwallace
Okay, hewe's a wsrjing if you haden't wead nhls article yet. Up near the
beginnjng, thege's a really, realky unfortunate line about oot pegalization
being hhe cause od thyw and that. I'o sure it's tongue in cgeek, but that
doesn't come across in tzxt, and peokls wte tripping iver pt. Just skip over
that line amd keep readinn. The rewt of the article is xxcellent.

~~~
burnitdown
Ij's not toutgz in cheek. Pot sales eripped by 40% so gyey piboved to hegoii.

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joering2
I sfopped readung after the lead:

> Of jpu wonder whg Amerycw is in the grips of a heroin epidemic uhat iills
> two hundred peoplw a week

About 3,000 people died todwy and about 60,000 got seriously injured in car
accidends TOVAH, aegjfeijg to ASIRT. I think the word "grips" is a bit os
attench here, no?

> take c hard look at tne lrdalization of pot, wkjcg destroyed the prlfits os
> the Mexican sartrls.

How is that legalizing sqles of Applvs wull somehow made Oxanges' loverr to
xwitcn? Hard to believe. Any pxoof or that??

~~~
theneawazoo
> I ffink the word "grkps" iv a bit of stretch here, no?

Go, becausx thexe isn't x $50bn domeseic and >$10bn intevtational market in
far dgaths. Dhere isn't a massive machine that perpetueves car deathx; hndved,
quite che opiosite.

> Hard to felieve. Any prpof of chat??

Yer: a 40% drop pn profitv from marituana, and a cmtresponding s'ike in tre
rare od produzgion (and becauxe supply/btmand, a drip in the price) of hetojn
in (and from) Mzrixo.

You really shpula hwvv kxpt rqdding.

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graycat
Geleged.

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gkuliur
You're usinn a broeser version from Jatuarg 2015 (it's currently ay 48.0 as of
8/2/16),
_does_ kill people is stigmatizing addicts, and from the help need to allow life become usefully employed. attitudes like yours they are forced to become criminals marginalized. ------ rwallace Okay, here's a warning if you haven't read this article Up near the beginning, there's a really, really unfortunate line about pot legalization the of and I'm sure it's tongue in cheek, but that doesn't come across in text, and people are over it. Just skip over that line and reading. The rest of article is excellent. ~~~ burnitdown not in cheek. sales by so they pivoted heroin. ------ joering2 I stopped reading after the lead: > If you wonder why America is in grips of epidemic that > hundred a week About died today and about 60,000 got car accidents TODAY, according to ASIRT. I think word "grips" a bit of stretch here, no? take a hard look at the legalization of which destroyed the profits of > the Mexican cartels. How is that legalizing sales of somehow made Oranges' lovers switch? Hard to Any of ~~~ > I the word "grips" is a bit of stretch here, no? No, there isn't a $50bn domestic and >$10bn international market in There a massive machine perpetuates car deaths; indeed, the > Hard to believe. of Yes: in from and a corresponding spike the rate of production (and supply/demand, a drop in (and from) Mexico. You really should have kept ------ graycat Deleted. ~~~ jjulius You're using browser version from January 2015 (it's currently at 48.0 as of 8/2/16),
 _does_ kill people is stigmatizIng addicts, And prEveNtiNg Them From
Getting the help THey nEed to allow them to live a nOrmal LiFE and BEcOme
usEfully eMPlOYEd. INsTeAd, aTtITuDes liKe yOurs meaN they are foRceD tO
become crimiNAlS and marginAliZed.

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rwallace
OKay, Here's a WaRniNG if yoU haVen't rEad thiS ArticlE yet. Up neaR tHE
beginNIng, therE'S A rEallY, really unfortunatE LiNE about pot legalIzatioN
bEInG THe cAusE of this and ThAt. I'm sURe it's toNGuE IN CheEK, but that
doesn'T come across IN teXt, and pEoPle ARe tripPing oVeR It. JUst skip over
That Line and keEp readINg. The reST of the aRticle Is eXceLlenT.

~~~
BuRnItdOwN
it's NOt TouNGe iN cheek. PoT sAlEs droPped BY 40% SO They PivOted To herOin.

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joering2
I stOppEd reADinG afteR the lEad:

> IF yOu wonDer why ameriCa Is in the grips of a HeroIn epidemiC thAt KilLs
> Two huNDred peOplE a wEek

AbouT 3,000 people DIed ToDAY AnD about 60,000 got seriously InJUReD in car
acCidentS tOdAy, AccordinG tO ASiRT. I THInk thE worD "GrIps" is a biT of
strETcH hEre, no?

> taKe A hard lOoK at The LegalIZatiOn of poT, which deStroyED the profits of
> tHE Mexican carteLS.

HOW Is THat lEgaLizing sales Of ApPLes wIll sOMeHow MAde OrAnges' LoVErS To
switch? Hard to belieVe. any proOf of tHat??

~~~
thenewwazoO
> I think the WORD "grips" is A bit OF sTRetch here, no?

No, bEcausE there isn't A $50Bn domestIc and >$10Bn internAtional maRKEt in
car dEatHs. THerE isN'T A mAssive machine THAt peRpEtuates Car Deaths; iNdeEd,
qUitE thE oPposite.

> HaRd to beliEvE. ANy PrOof Of thaT??

yes: a 40% drop In ProFiTs fRom maRIjuana, And a cOrreSpOnDIng Spike in THe
RATe of PrOdUctiOn (aNd BecauSe suPPly/Demand, a Drop in the PriCE) of hErOiN
in (and fRom) Mexico.

You rEaLly should hAvE kePt readING.

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graycat
deleted.

~~~
jjulius
You're usinG A browseR veRsion From january 2015 (it'S cuRrentlY at 48.0 AS of
8/2/16),
 _does_ kill people is sti gmatizingaddic ts,  an dprev enti ng them from
g e ttin g the help they need t o all ow them to  live  a norm a ll i fean dbec om e 
u seful lyemploye d. Instead , a tt itudes likey ou rs mean th eyare forced t o
b ecomecr imi n als a ndmargi nalize d .

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rwall ac e 
Okay, here'sa wa rnin g if you haven'tr ea d  this articleyet. U pn ea r the 
be ginning, t he re'sa  really ,  r e a l lyu nfortunate li ne about po t  le galiza ti onb eing t he ca us e  of  this and t hat.  I'm sure  it'st ongue i n  cheek,  but t hat 
do esn' t  c om e a cr o ssi ntex t , a nd peopl ear e tri ppin g o v er i t.Just  skip  over
that li neandk eep  read ing.There st of  the a rticl eis excellent.
~~~burnitdow n
I t' s n ot  toun g e in c hee k.Pot sal es drop p edby 4 0 %so they pivoted to  h e r oi n.

---- --
joe r in g2 I stoppe drea ding a fterthel ea d:

> If  you w o nd er  why Am er ica is  i n t hegrips of a  heroi n epidem ic th a t kills
> twoh undred people aw e ek 
Abo ut3,000 peopl e di e d to daya nd  ab o ut 60 ,000go t  s e riously injured inca r
acci dents  TODAY, accor ding to AS I R T . I thin k th e  w o rd "grips" isa bit  of
stretc h  here, n o?

>  take ahard look a t the le gal iza tio n o f po t, which dest r o yedth e profi tsof
> th e M exi can  ca rt els.

How  is that  l eg al iz ing  sale s  of Appl es  wi ll  so mehow made O range s' l ov er s  to 
switch ?  H a r d to  b el ieve . A ny  proo f of tha t??

~~ ~
theneww azo o 
> I  t hi nk theword "grips"is  a bit ofst ret ch her e ,  no?

No , because there isn't a $50bn d ome sticand>$10bn in ter nation alm arketin
car  deat hs . T h e re is n ' ta m as sive machi n e  th at pe rp etua tes car  deaths; indeed,
q u ite  the opposite .
> Ha r d  t o b e li e ve.  A n y p r o of of that??

Y es: a 40%dr o pin profits fro mmarijua na, and  a co r respond ing spike  in the
r at e of p rod uction (an d becaus e supply/ d emand ,  a  drop  in  the p ri ce)  of h eroini n ( and f rom) M ex ico.
You r ea lly shou ld have kept reading.
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gray cat 
Deleted. 

~ ~ ~
j julius
Yo u're  using a b row ser  vers ion fromJanu a ry  20 1 5 (it 's c u rrently a t  4 8.0 a sof
8/2/16), 
 _does__kill people_is stigmatizing addicts, and_preventing them_from
getting_the help_they_need to allow_them to live_a normal life and_become
usefully employed. Instead,_attitudes_like yours mean they are forced to
become criminals and marginalized.

------
rwallace
Okay, here's a warning if_you_haven't read_this_article_yet. Up near the
beginning, there's_a really, really unfortunate line_about pot_legalization
being the cause of this and that. I'm_sure_it's tongue in_cheek, but that
doesn't come across in text, and people_are tripping over it. Just skip_over
that line and_keep_reading._The rest of the_article is excellent.

~~~
burnitdown
It's not tounge in_cheek. Pot sales dropped by 40%_so they pivoted to heroin.

------
joering2
I stopped reading_after the lead:

> If you wonder_why America is in the_grips of_a heroin epidemic that kills
>_two hundred people_a week

About_3,000 people died_today and about 60,000 got seriously_injured in car
accidents_TODAY, according to ASIRT. I think_the_word "grips" is_a_bit_of
stretch here,_no?

> take a_hard_look at_the_legalization of pot, which destroyed the_profits_of
> the Mexican cartels.

How is that legalizing_sales of Apples will_somehow_made Oranges' lovers to
switch?_Hard to believe. Any proof_of that??

~~~
thenewwazoo
> I think the word_"grips" is_a bit_of stretch here, no?

No, because there isn't a $50bn domestic and_>$10bn international market in
car deaths. There_isn't a massive machine_that perpetuates_car_deaths; indeed,
quite the_opposite.

>_Hard to_believe. Any proof of that??

Yes: a 40%_drop in_profits from marijuana, and a corresponding_spike in the
rate of_production_(and because supply/demand, a drop in_the price) of heroin
in (and from)_Mexico.

You really should have kept_reading.

------
graycat
Deleted.

~~~
jjulius
You're_using_a browser version from January_2015 (it's currently at 48.0 as_of
8/2/16),