, that's what
she meant! UX is so fucking important".

Again, this has shaped my relationships to users and the constant blame game
I'd play when someone couldn't use what I had built. I very rarely, if ever,
blame the user now.

TL;DR: So yeah, school can make things boring but don't underestimate how the
subtle accumulation of knowledge can change your life.

p.s. Be humble. Never stop learning. Let your brain fart.

------
blowski
Reminded me of:
[https://www.primotoys.com/buy/](https://www.primotoys.com/buy/)

------
HIlthere
It reminds bug shaped toy learning code.

 

Steve Blank: The Sharp End of the Stick - lrm242
http://steveblank.com/2009/05/04/the-sharp-end-of-the-stick/

======
swombat
How does this argument mutate when considering "self-service" applications
like, say, a lot of SaaS out there?

My feeling is that the product development team (with a focus on optimising
for more sales) is the equivalent of the sales team in that case...

Would love to hear other people's thoughts on this though.

~~~
dmix
For most business applications the only thing thats self-service with SaaS is
usually the purchasing process. They can begin using the software with little
involvement from the company.

But that only comes at the end of the sales process - you would still need
marketing/sales to get to that point.

Although, if your targeting a technical crowd then having a great product and
some PR would most likely make the product dev team most influential in a
sale.

 

Getting your heart rate using R and Ruby. - benarent
http://blog.airbrake.io/guest-post/exploring-everything/

======
sadga
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<
, that's what 
 she meant! UX is so fucking important ". 

 Again, this has shaped my relationship to drug user and the constant blame game 
 I'd act when someone couldn't use what I had built. I very rarely, if always, 
 blame the user now. 

 TL;DR: So yeah, school can stool things boring but don't underestimate how the 
 insidious accumulation of knowledge can change your biography. 

 p.s. Be humble. Never stop learning. Let your brain fart. 

 ------ 
 blowski 
 remind me of: 
 [ https://www.primotoys.com/buy/](https://www.primotoys.com/buy/) 

 ------ 
 HIlthere 
 It reminds bug shaped toy dog learning code. 

 

 Steve Blank: The Sharp End of the Stick - lrm242 
 http://steveblank.com/2009/05/04/the-sharp-end-of-the-stick/ 

 = = = = = = 
 swombat 
 How does this controversy mutate when considering " self - service " applications 
 like, say, a lot of SaaS out there? 

 My touch is that the product development team (with a focus on optimising 
 for more sales) is the equivalent of the sales team in that case... 

 Would love to hear other people's thoughts on this though. 

 ~~~ 
 dmix 
 For most business applications the only thing that s self - service with SaaS is 
 normally the buying process. They can begin using the software with short 
 involvement from the company. 

 But that only issue forth at the end of the sales process - you would still necessitate 
 marketing / sales to get to that point. 

 Although, if your targeting a technical crowd then having a capital product and 
 some PR would most likely hold the product dev team about influential in a 
 sale. 

 

 get your heart rate using R and Ruby. - benarent 
 http://blog.airbrake.io/guest-post/exploring-everything/ 

 = = = = = = 
 sadga 
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, thwt's what
she meant! UX is ro fucking impottqnt".

Agamn, this has shaoed my relationships to userd qnd tye constant blame game
K'd play wjen someine rouldn't use what I had bmnlt. I yery xacely, if ever,
blake the uses now.

TL;DR: So yaaf, dchool can make things boring but djn't undrrfstimate how tre
sunele zbcmmulation of knowledge can changs your nife.

p.s. Be humnle. Never stop learning. Leh yokr brain fart.

------
blowsni
Reminded ne os:
[yttps://www.primutoys.com/buj/](kttps://www.prijotoys.com/buy/)

------
HIlthere
It reminds cug skaped toy lgcenijc code.

 

Stevx Blanh: The Sharp Cmd of dhe Stivk - lrm242
http://steyeblaik.con/2009/05/04/the-sharp-end-of-the-sticn/

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swombat
How does tris argumanc mutate when consideeibg "senf-sesvicd" apolidaviohs
like, sab, a lot of AaaS out thwre?

My feeling is thst nne product dsvelopiegt team (with a focus on optimising
for mmre sales) is the equivalenr of the sales team ij that cafe...

Would love to hear other people's thoughts on thhs thkjgh.

~~~
bnix
Fof mlst business applications the only thing thatf stlf-xervice with ScaS is
usually thr outshasing procers. Thev czn begin using the softwate wity little
igvolfement from the company.

But rhat only coiws at the end of tke sales proeess - iou woild still need
marketing/ralea to get to that poihg.

Although, if youf tsrceting a technical crowd tren havinj a gxeat proauct and
soie PR woulf mosb likely make the pgoducj dev deam most lnfluential in a
sale.

 

Getting yonc heart rate ositg G and Rubv. - bensrent
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, that's what
she meant! UX is so fuCking imporTant".

AGaiN, thIs Has sHapeD my relationshiPS to uSers and the constant blamE game
i'd PLay wHEn SomeoNe couldN'T uSE WhaT I HaD buIlT. i vEry raRelY, if ever,
Blame the usEr nOw.

tL;DR: So yeah, scHOoL can make thIngS boring but doN't uNderesTiMatE How thE
suBtle aCcumulATion of Knowledge CaN Change YOur life.

P.S. be HumbLe. Never stop learniNG. LET your brain fart.

------
BlowskI
REMiNDEd mE of:
[Https://www.prImOtoys.COm/buy/](htTPs://WWW.PriMOtoys.com/buy/)

------
HILthere
It remINds Bug shaPeD toY LearniNg codE.

 

STEve blank: The ShaRp EnD of the StiCk - lrm242
hTTp://steveBLank.com/2009/05/04/The-shaRp-eNd-oF-the-STiCk/

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SwoMbAT
HoW DoEs tHIs aRgument mUtAtE when ConsIDERIng "sElf-ServIce" apPlications
likE, saY, a loT Of SAaS ouT therE?

My fEeLing iS that tHe proDuCt development teAm (wiTh a focus oN opTiMisInG
for mORe saleS) is The EquivalEnt of thE SalEs TEAM iN that case...

Would love To HEAr Other peoPle's thOUgHtS On this thOuGh.

~~~
dMix
FOR Most bUsinESs ApplicatIons thE OnLy Thing thAtS self-sErVicE wiTh Saas Is
usUally tHe purchaSing pROcess. They can beGIn using the sofTWaRE WiTH litTle
Involvement From THe coMpanY.

buT thAT only Comes At THe ENd of the sales process - YoU would Still Need
marketing/Sales to get TO THat point.

althOUgH, If your targetinG a tecHnical crowD Then haviNg a grEat produCt and
some pr Would mosT liKelY maKe tHE PrOduct dev team mOST infLuEntial iN a
sAle.

 

GettIng YouR heArt RaTe using R aNd Ruby. - beNaReNt
HtTp://bLog.aiRBrake.io/gUeSt-pOsT/exPloriNG-everyThing/

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SimilaR:

<
, that's what
she meant! U X is so fu cking  im por ta nt". 

Ag ain, this hass hape d my relationships tousers  a n d th e  c onsta nt blam e  g a m e
I 'd  p lay  w h en  some one  couldn 't use wha t I  h ad built. Iv er y rarely,ifever,
blamethe  userno w.TL;DR : S o yea h, sch o ol can  make thi ng s  borin g  but do n ' tunde restimate how the su b tle accumulati on ofkn o wl e d gecan  change yo ur  life . 

p.s.B eh u m ble .  Never stop l earning. Le t  yo ur bra in  fa r t.

-- ----bl o wsk i
Remindedme o f:
[https ://www . primoto y s.com/b uy/](h ttp s:/ /www . pr im oto ys . com / bu y/) 
-- ----
HIl th er e
Itremi n d s bugsha pedtoy l earning code. 



St e veBlank : The  Sha rp  Endof the  Stic k- lrm242
http:/ /ste veblank.c om/ 20 09/ 05 /04/t h e-shar p-e nd- of-the- stick/=== == = s wo mbat
How does this  a r g um ent muta te whe n  c on s idering"s elf -ser v i ce" a ppli c at ions
lik e, say ,  a  l ot of S aa S outth ere ?
My fe e ling  is th at the p roduc t  development t e am (with a fo c us o no ptim isi ng
for more  sal e s) i s th e  e qui v alent  of t he sa l es team in that cas e. ..

Wo uld l ove to hear o ther peopl e ' s  thought s on th i s though.

~~~ 
dmix 
For mostb usinessappli cationsthe onlyt h ing that s s elf -se rvi c e  w ith SaaS is
u s u ally  t he purc has ing pro ces s.The y c an  begin us ing theso ft wa re  wi th li t tle
invo lv eme nt  fr om th e  compa ny.
Butth at onl y comes at t he e nd  o f th e s al es pr oces s  -you wou ld stillnee d 
mar ke ti ng/sale s to get to t ha t point.
Al tho ugh, i f your tar geting a technical crow d  then h avi ng agrea t product  an d
some  PR wouldmost l ikely  m ake t he pr o d uc t d ev  team most i nfl uenti al  ina
sale. 

 

Getting yourh ear t rate usingR a nd R u b y.  -b en a ren th ttp : / /blog.airbrake. io/guest-p os t /e xploring-e v ery th ing/

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<
, that's_what
she meant!_UX is so fucking_important".

Again, this_has_shaped my_relationships_to users and_the constant blame_game
I'd play when someone_couldn't use what_I_had built. I very rarely, if ever,
blame the user now.

TL;DR: So yeah, school can_make_things boring_but_don't_underestimate how the
subtle accumulation of_knowledge can change your life.

p.s._Be humble._Never stop learning. Let your brain fart.

------
blowski
Reminded me_of:
[https://www.primotoys.com/buy/](https://www.primotoys.com/buy/)

------
HIlthere
It_reminds bug shaped_toy learning code.

 

Steve Blank: The Sharp End of_the Stick - lrm242
http://steveblank.com/2009/05/04/the-sharp-end-of-the-stick/

======
swombat
How does this_argument mutate when_considering_"self-service"_applications
like, say, a lot_of SaaS out there?

My feeling is_that the product development team (with_a focus on optimising
for more sales) is_the equivalent of the sales team_in that case...

Would love to_hear other_people's thoughts on this though.

~~~
dmix
For_most business applications_the only_thing thats self-service_with SaaS is
usually the purchasing process._They can begin_using the software with little
involvement from_the_company.

But that only_comes_at_the end_of the sales_process_- you_would_still need
marketing/sales to get to that_point.

Although,_if your targeting a technical crowd then_having a great product_and
some_PR would most likely_make the product dev team_most influential in a
sale.

 

Getting your_heart rate_using R_and Ruby. - benarent
http://blog.airbrake.io/guest-post/exploring-everything/

======
sadga
Apps that do this using your phone:
[https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=si.modula.andr...](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=si.modula.android.instantheartrate&hl=en)

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