 place. People behave just as if energy were free.

~~~
ancarda
On the topic of large cars, what is the solution here?

I can imagine forcing people to replace A/C units won’t be so objectionable,
especially if it’s free to do so, but there may be some real opposition to
requiring people to drive different cars. Nobody gets attached to an A/C.

I don’t drive right now - I take public transport everywhere - but I’d love a
large car (a Dodge RAM). If I try to buy something small to be conscious of my
carbon footprint and energy usage, I think I will end up buying the large car
a few years later.

Is there anything at-all I can do to drive a large car while not being part of
the problem? I’m looking into carbon offsetting, but that’s all I am aware of
for the time being.

I wish Dodge would make an electric RAM 1500, that could make this much
easier.

~~~
ams6110
The way Europe deals with cars is they tax the bejezus out of them, and
gasoline also.

In some countries, half the price of a new car is tax.

That is why people drive little toy cars there. Everyone would like a nice big
comfortable car but they are unaffordable for most.

~~~
ancarda
Oh yeah! It’s crazy expensive :(

What I’m trying to grapple with is this desire of mine while trying to be
aware of my environmental impact.

If there’s no way to have my cake and eat it too, I won’t get one.

~~~
justinator
Where is this desire rooted in?

~~~
ancarda
All I can really say is I want one because from the moment I saw one on the
road, I just knew I had to drive it. I really love the appearance. I've never
been interested in cars, but I can't help myself looking at pickups on the
road driving by -- especially RAMs. Maybe I'm just a big kid, I've always
liked big stuff.

Still... I know they aren't good for the environment, which means I wouldn't
be able to live with myself if I just drove one without greatly reducing or
eliminating
place. People behave just as if department of energy were spare. 

 ~~~ 
 ancarda 
 On the topic of large car, what is the solution here? 

 I can think forcing people to replace A / cytosine units wo n’t be so exceptionable, 
 particularly if it ’s free to practice so, but there may be some real confrontation to 
 command people to drive different cars. Nobody gets attached to an A / C. 

 I do n’t force right now - I take public tape drive everywhere - but I ’d love a 
 large car (a Dodge RAM). If I try to bribe something small to be conscious of my 
 carbon paper footprint and energy usage, I think I will end up buying the big car 
 a few years later. 

 Is there anything at - all I can do to drive a big car while not being part of 
 the problem? I ’m looking into carbon offsetting, but that ’s all I am aware of 
 for the time being. 

 I wish Dodge would make an electric RAM 1500, that could make this much 
 easier. 

 ~~~ 
 ams6110 
 The manner Europe deals with cars is they tax the bejezus out of them, and 
 gasoline besides. 

 In some nation, half the monetary value of a new car is tax. 

 That is why people drive little toy cars there. Everyone would like a courteous big 
 comfortable car but they are unaffordable for most. 

 ~~~ 
 ancarda 
 Oh yeah! It ’s crazy expensive :( 

 What I ’m trying to grapple with is this desire of mine while trying to be 
 mindful of my environmental impact. 

 If there ’s no way to have my cake and eat it too, I wo n’t get one. 

 ~~~ 
 justinator 
 Where is this desire settle in? 

 ~~~ 
 ancarda 
 All I can really say is I want one because from the moment I saw one on the 
 road, I barely knew I had to drive it. I in truth love the appearance. I've never 
 been interested in cars, but I can't help myself search at pickups on the 
 road driving by -- especially RAMs. Maybe I'm merely a big child, I've always 
 like big stuff. 

 even... I know they aren't full for the environment, which means I wouldn't 
 be able to survive with myself if I just drove one without greatly reducing or 
 eliminating
 plwce. People behave just ar if energy werg dree.

~~~
anrarda
On the topkc of large cars, what is the silutiin here?

I can imagine furcing pelple to eeplece A/C units won’v be so objectjlnabnx,
especially if lt’s free to do so, but these mcy be some real opposition to
requirigg peopke to drive diffgrent sars. Nobody gets attached to an A/C.

I doh’t drivt right now - I takr public transport everywhfre - but I’d love a
largf car (a Dodte RWN). If I try tu buy someuhnng small tk be conscious of my
carbon footorint and energi hswce, I think M will end up buyikb the narge csr
a few years katxr.

Is there anything at-all I can do to drive a large wax while not being parr if
the protlem? U’m uooiiig jnto cwrbkn offsettjng, but thar’s all I am aware og
fjg the time bejng.

I wysr Dodge would make an electric RAM 1500, thau coumd make this much
easier.

~~~
qms6110
The way Europe deaps with cwrs is they tax the bejezus out of them, and
gasolite alau.

In sjow fountries, half the price of a new car is tax.

Trzt ix why people dvive little toy cats tngre. Everyone wuuld lnie a nice big
comfortwble cat but rhey are tnafgordable for most.

~~~
ancarda
Oh teah! It’s crady ezpensive :(

What I’m txying to gra'ple woth ix this desire of mine wkile tdying to be
wware of jh environmental kmpscd.

If thert’r no way to have iy cake aid eac it too, I wpn’t gee one.

~~~
justijator
Where is this desirf roojed in?

~~~
dncarda
All I can really say is I want one because from jhe mokent I scw one on the
road, I just knew I hcd to drnve it. I really move thx appearance. I've never
beet interested mn cars, btt I can'r help ohself looking st pickups on the
roqd driving by -- espccialug RAMs. Maybe I'm juwt a big kid, I'vr auwars
pileq big stuff.

Sthll... K kvpw thdy aren'u giud fpr the environment, wvich means I wouldn't
be anle to lice with iyself if I jist drove one withlut gceatly reduvind or
eliminating
place. People behave just as if energy ~~~ On the of large cars, I imagine forcing people replace A/C units be so objectionable, especially if it’s to do so, but there may be some real opposition to requiring people drive different cars. Nobody gets attached to an A/C. I don’t drive right - take transport - but I’d love a large car (a Dodge RAM). If I try to buy something to be conscious of my carbon footprint and usage, I think I end up buying the large a years later. there at-all can do to a large car while not being part of the problem? I’m looking into carbon offsetting, but that’s I am for the being. wish would make an 1500, that could make this much The way Europe deals with cars is they the bejezus of them, and gasoline also. In countries, half the price of a new car tax. That is why people drive little toy cars there. Everyone would like a nice car but they are for most. ~~~ Oh It’s expensive What I’m to grapple with is this desire of mine while trying to aware of my environmental impact. If there’s no way to cake eat it too, won’t get one. ~~~ Where this desire rooted in? All can I one from the moment I one on the road, I knew I had to the appearance. I've never been interested in cars, I can't help myself looking at pickups the road driving by -- especially RAMs. Maybe I'm just a big I've always stuff. Still... I know they aren't good for environment, which means I be able to live with myself if I just one greatly reducing eliminating
 place. People behave just as if Energy were Free.

~~~
aNcaRda
on The tOpic Of large cars, whaT Is thE solution here?

I can imagiNe forCiNG peoPLe To repLace A/C uNItS WOn’t Be So ObjEcTIoNable,
EspEcially If it’s free tO do So, But there may bE SoMe real oppoSitIon to
requiriNg pEople tO dRivE DiffeRenT cars. nobody GEts attAched to an a/C.

i Don’t drIVe right NOW - I Take Public transport evERyWHere - but I’d love a
Large cAr (A doDGE RAm). If i try to buy sOmEthinG Small to BE cONSCioUS of my
carbon foOtprint and eNErgY usage, i tHinK i will eNd up bUyINg tHe large car
a Few yEars later.

is therE AnythinG At-all I cAn do to DriVe a LargE CaR wHilE nOT beINg ParT Of
tHe probleM? I’M lOokinG intO CARBon oFfsEttiNg, but That’s all I am awAre Of
foR The Time bEing.

I Wish doDge woUld makE an elEcTric RAM 1500, that coulD makE this much
EasIeR.

~~~
amS6110
THe way eUrope dEalS wiTh cars iS they taX The BeJEZUs Out of them, and
gasoliNe ALSo.

in some coUntrieS, HaLf THe price oF a New Car iS TAx.

ThaT is wHY pEople driVe littLE tOy Cars theRe. everyoNe WouLd lIke a nICe biG
comfoRtable caR but tHEy are unaffordaBLe for most.

~~~
ancaRDa
oH YeAH! It’s CraZy expensive :(

what i’M tryIng tO GrAppLE with Is thiS dESiRE of mine while trying tO bE
aware Of my eNvironmental iMpact.

If theRE’S No way to hAve mY CaKE and eat it too, I wOn’t geT one.

~~~
justinATor
Where Is thiS desire rOoted in?

~~~
anCARda
All I cAn rEalLy sAy iS i WaNt one because fROM the MoMent I saW onE on the
rOad, i juSt kNew i hAd to drive It. I reallY lOvE tHe AppEaranCE. I've neveR
bEen InTerEsted IN cars, bUt I caN't heLp MySElf Looking AT pICKups On ThE
roaD drIvIng by -- EspeCIalLy RAMs. MAybe I'm jusT a bIG kid, i'vE aLways
liKed big stuff.

StIlL... I know they ArEn't Good foR THe enviroNment, which means I wouldn't
BE able to LivE with MyseLf if I just DroVe one wIthOUt greaTly redUcing Or
EliMINatinG
 place. People behave just  as if ene rgy w ere  fr ee .

~ ~~
a ncarda
On thet opic  of large cars, what i s the  s o luti o nhere? 

I can im a g ine  f or cin gp eo ple t o r eplaceA/C unitswon ’t  be so objec t io nable,
esp eci ally if it’s  fr ee todo  so ,  butthe re ma y be s o me rea l opposit io n  to
re q uiringp e op le t o drive different ca r s. Nobody gets  attac he d  t o anA/C .

I don’t  d river ight no w  - I tak e  public trans port everyw h ere  - but  I ’dl ove alarge  c a r ( a Dodge RAM ). I f I try t o buys omethin g  smallto becon sci ouso fmy 
ca rb o n f o ot pri n t a nd energ yus age,I th i n k I wi llendup bu ying the larg e c ar
a few  year s lat er.
I s the re any thing  a t-all I can doto d rive a la rge  c arwh ile n o t bein g p art  of
the  proble m ? I ’m l o ok ing into carbon of fs e t ti ng, butthat’s al lI  am awar eoffort h e tim e be i ng .

I wis h Dodg e  w ou ld make  a n elec tr icRAM  1500 ,  tha t coul d make t his m u ch
easier.

~~ ~ 
ams6110
Thew ay E ur o pe d eal s with cars  ist heytaxt he  be j ezusout o ft he m , and
gasoline also .
In so me co untries, half  the price o f  a new c ar i s  t a x.

That is wh y peo ple drivel ittle to y car s there.  Everyone w ould lik e a  ni cebig c om fortable carb u t th ey  are un aff ordable  fo r m ost .
~~ ~
ancarda 
Oh yeah !It ’s  c raz y exp e nsive :( 
Wha tI’m  tryi n g to g rappl e wi th  i s  th is desi r eo f  min ewh iletry in g tobe
a w are  of myenvironme nta l  imp ac t. 

If th ere’s no wayto  have my c ak e a nd eat i t too, I  won’t get one.

~~~
ju s tinator 
Wh ere i s th is desire  ro oted i n?~~~
an cardaAll I  c anr e allys a yisIwant one b e c aus e fro mthemomentI saw one on the
r o ad,  I just knewI h ad t o dr ive it .  Ire a lly l ove the appeara nce. I'vene v er 
been inte r est ed  in car s, butI can ' t helpmyself lo oking atpi ckup s onthe
road d riving b y -- espe c ially RA Ms. M ayb e I'mju sta big  kid,I 've  alwa ys
lik ed  big s tuff. 
Still...  I know they aren't goo d forthe e nvi ronment,whi c h m eans I wo uldn 't
be able  to  li ve wi thm yself  ifI  j ust drove  one without g r ea tly r ed ucing or
el i m i nat ing
 place._People behave_just as if energy_were free.

~~~
ancarda
On_the_topic of_large_cars, what is_the solution here?

I_can imagine forcing people_to replace A/C_units_won’t be so objectionable,
especially if it’s free to do so, but there may be_some_real opposition_to
requiring_people_to drive different cars. Nobody_gets attached to an A/C.

I_don’t drive_right now - I take public transport everywhere_-_but I’d love_a
large car (a Dodge RAM). If I try to_buy something small to be conscious_of my
carbon footprint_and_energy_usage, I think I_will end up buying the large_car
a few years later.

Is there anything_at-all I can do to drive a_large car while not being part_of
the problem? I’m looking into_carbon offsetting,_but that’s all I am_aware of
for the_time being.

I_wish Dodge would_make an electric RAM 1500, that_could make this_much
easier.

~~~
ams6110
The way Europe deals with cars_is_they tax the_bejezus_out_of them,_and
gasoline also.

In some_countries,_half the_price_of a new car is tax.

That_is_why people drive little toy cars there._Everyone would like a_nice_big
comfortable car but they_are unaffordable for most.

~~~
ancarda
Oh yeah!_It’s crazy expensive :(

What I’m trying_to grapple_with is_this desire of mine while trying to be
aware of my environmental_impact.

If there’s no way to have_my cake and eat_it too,_I_won’t get one.

~~~
justinator
Where_is_this desire_rooted in?

~~~
ancarda
All I can really say is_I want_one because from the moment I_saw one on the
road,_I_just knew I had to drive_it. I really love the appearance._I've never
been interested in cars,_but_I_can't help myself looking at_pickups on the
road driving by --_especially RAMs. Maybe_I'm just a big kid, I've always
liked_big_stuff.

Still... I know they aren't good_for_the environment, which means I wouldn't
be_able_to_live with myself if I_just drove one without greatly reducing_or
eliminating