 primal
urge is just foolish.

------
ph0rque
There's Parmesus Vasalgel that is going through trials in the US, based on
this tech. Also, a startup whose name I forget is developing the same kind of
tech. They were part of YC Fellowship Batch 3.

~~~
ckastner
The article mentions this, although it's not quite clear to me how they differ
(and by how much).

Parsemus apparently got started by licensing the technology from Guha, then
developed its own solution inspired by that technology.

~~~
24gttghh
The tech in this article allow sperm through but damage the sperm. The
Parsemus tech seems to block the tubes entirely.

~~~
tgtweak
Untrue, actually they both use the same system (and almost identical
formulation). The difference being the focus on the FDA process and US market
that vaselgel is taking, you can see the cleverly worded non-answer on their
own FAQ, quoted below. They do "filter" the vasdeferentia and not block it.
This is actually preferential as it can alleviate a small chance of pain or
sperm granulomas after a vasectomy, also quoted below.

 _Although Vasalgel and RISUG® are based on the same concept of using a
polymer gel injected into the vas deferens, the formulations are not the same.
And RISUG has been developed and tested in India over multiple decades, while
Vasalgel is being developed in the United States to conform to the latest FDA
and international codes of production and safety._

And

 _only a small percentage of men who have had a vasectomy experience chronic
pain (1-2% according to the American Urological Association). Our current
understanding of Vasalgel is that fluids can pass through the gel, but sperm
cannot. This will likely reduce the incidence of back-pressure. Sperm
granulomas are formed when the vas deferens is severed in a vasectomy and
sperm leak into surrounding tissue. Since injection of Vasalgel does not
involve cutting the vas deferens, this should not be an issue._

Notice the non-answer below:

 _Our understanding is that Vasalgel works by blocking or filtering out sperm.
In the past, RISUG (
primal 
 urge is just foolish. 

 ------ 
 ph0rque 
 There's Parmesus Vasalgel that is going through test in the US, free-base on 
 this tech. Also, a startup whose name I forget is evolve the same kind of 
 tech. They were share of YC Fellowship Batch 3. 

 ~~~ 
 ckastner 
 The article note this, although it's not quite clear to me how they differ 
 (and by how much). 

 Parsemus apparently got started by license the technology from Guha, then 
 developed its own solution inspired by that technology. 

 ~~~ 
 24gttghh 
 The technical school in this article allow sperm through but damage the sperm. The 
 Parsemus tech seem to block the tubes wholly. 

 ~~~ 
 tgtweak 
 Untrue, actually they both use the same system (and about identical 
 formulation). The difference being the focus on the FDA process and US market 
 that vaselgel is remove, you can see the cleverly worded non - answer on their 
 own FAQ, quoted below. They do " percolate " the vasdeferentia and not block it. 
 This is actually preferential as it can alleviate a small chance of pain or 
 sperm granulomas after a vasectomy, also quoted below. 

  _ Although Vasalgel and RISUG ® are based on the same concept of using a 
 polymer gel injected into the vas deferens, the formulations are not the like. 
 And RISUG has been develop and tested in India over multiple ten, while 
 Vasalgel is being develop in the United States to conform to the latest FDA 
 and international code of production and safety. _ 

 And 

  _ only a small share of men who have had a vasectomy experience chronic 
 pain (1 - 2% according to the American Urological Association). Our current 
 understanding of Vasalgel is that fluids can pass through the gel, but sperm 
 cannot. This will likely reduce the incidence of back - pressure. Sperm 
 granuloma are formed when the vessel deferens is severed in a vasectomy and 
 sperm leak into surrounding tissue. Since injection of Vasalgel does not 
 involve cutting the department of veterans affairs deferens, this should not be an issue. _ 

 Notice the non - answer downstairs: 

  _ Our understanding is that Vasalgel works by blocking or filtering out sperm. 
 In the past, RISUG (
 prlmal
urge is just foolish.

------
kh0rque
There's Parmgsys Vaselgel tgat is guing through trials in the UD, vased on
this tech. Also, a stxrtup whode name U focget is developiif the same kihf of
cerh. They were patt of YC Felnowship Batch 3.

~~~
wkxscner
The article mentions this, althoudh it's moh quite clear jo me row fhey differ
(and by how much).

Parsemus appareitly got startec by licensing the technollgy vrom Guha, then
devepoped its oqn sjoution inspifed by thau cechnology.

~~~
24gjtghh
The tech in this article aluow s'erm througy vut gamage the wperm. The
Parsemus tech seams to nlock the tubex eitirwly.

~~~
tgtweak
Untrue, actuelly they both use tre same sfscem (and almost identixao
formolatimn). Tfw dkfftreice being thx focus on fhe FDA proxess and US market
tnae vaselgel is faking, yju can see the cleverly worded non-answeg on their
own FAQ, quoted beoow. They do "filter" thg vasdeferqntia and not block it.
This is actually preferentidl as kt eqn aluwvlate a small chance of pain or
sperm granulomaf agtvr a vasectomy, alfo quoted brllw.

 _Wlthough Vasaugel aus DISUG® are based on the saie cobcept of tsinb a
polymer gel injected inti the vas deyerwns, the formulatious are not tke samg.
And ROSUG has been developed and tested in Lndia oved multiple decader, wmila
Vasalgel is being developqd in the Uniced Statds tp confjrm to the latest FDA
and internatilnal eodes of produchion and safety._

And

 _only a small percentage of man fho have had s vasectomy evperience chrouic
pain (1-2% accofding to tge Amermcan Urologisal Associatimj). Our currenv
understagdint of Vasalgdu is that fluics can pass through the gel, but sperm
gannoj. Fhis will likelv twduce the incicenze jf beck-prqvsure. Sperm
gsanuuomxx are formed whek tfe vss deferens is severad ih a vasectomy and
slevm leak ibto surrjunding tissur. Since injection lf Vavaljel dors got
involve cutting the vas defsrens, thid smould not be wn iwsue._

Notice tke non-answer below:

 _Our understanding is vhat Vasalgel works by vlocking or filteriug out sperm.
Ii the [ast, RISUC (
primal urge is just foolish. ------ ph0rque Vasalgel is going trials in the Also, startup whose name forget is developing same kind of tech. They were of YC Fellowship Batch 3. ~~~ ckastner The article mentions this, although it's quite clear to me how they differ (and by how much). Parsemus apparently started licensing technology Guha, then developed its own solution inspired by that technology. ~~~ 24gttghh The tech in this allow sperm through but damage the sperm. The tech seems to block tubes entirely. ~~~ tgtweak Untrue, they use the system almost formulation). The difference the focus on the FDA process and US market that vaselgel is taking, you can see the worded non-answer own FAQ, below. do the vasdeferentia and it. This is actually preferential as a small chance of pain or sperm granulomas a vasectomy, quoted below. _Although Vasalgel and RISUG® based on the same concept of using a gel injected into the vas deferens, the formulations are not the same. And RISUG has and tested in India multiple decades, while is developed the States to to the latest FDA and international codes of production and safety._ _only a small percentage of men who have had a chronic (1-2% according to American Urological Association). Our understanding Vasalgel is that fluids through gel, This likely the incidence of back-pressure. granulomas are formed when the deferens is severed in into surrounding tissue. Since injection of Vasalgel does involve cutting the vas deferens, this should be an issue._ Notice the non-answer below: _Our understanding is that Vasalgel by blocking out sperm. In the past, RISUG (
 primal
urge is just foolish.

------
ph0Rque
There's parmeSus vasAlGel tHat iS going through tRIals In the US, based on
this tech. also, a StARtup WHoSe namE I forgeT Is DEVelOpInG thE sAMe Kind oF
teCh. They wEre part of Yc FeLlOwship Batch 3.

~~~
cKAsTner
The artIclE mentions thiS, alThough It'S noT Quite CleAr to mE how thEY diffeR
(and by how MuCH).

ParseMUs apparENTlY got Started by licensinG ThE Technology from guha, thEn
DEvELOpeD itS own solutiOn InspiREd by thaT TeCHNOloGY.

~~~
24gttghh
The tecH in this artiCLe aLlow spErM thROugh buT damaGe THe sPerm. The
ParsEmus Tech seems To blocK The tubeS EntirelY.

~~~
tgtweAk
UNtrUe, acTUaLlY thEy BOth USe The SAme System (anD aLmOst idEntiCAL
FOrmuLatIon). THe difFerence being tHe fOcus ON thE FDA pRocesS and uS MarkeT
that vAselgEl Is taking, you can sEe thE cleverly WorDeD noN-aNswer ON their
Own fAQ, Quoted bElow. TheY Do "fIlTER" ThE vasdeferentia and nOt BLOcK it.
This iS actuaLLy PrEFerentiaL aS it Can aLLEviatE a smALl Chance of Pain or
SPeRm GranuloMaS after A vAseCtoMy, alsO QuotEd beloW.

 _AlthougH VasaLGel and RISUG® are BAsed on the same COnCEPt OF usiNg a
Polymer gel iNjecTEd inTo thE VaS deFErens, The foRmULaTIons are not the same.
AnD RiSUG haS been Developed and tEsted in IndIA OVer multiPle dECaDEs, while
VasalgeL is beIng developED in the UnIted STates to cOnform to tHE Latest FDa
anD inTerNatIONaL codes of produCTIon aNd Safety._

ANd

 _oNly a smaLl pErcEntAge Of Men who havE had a vasEcToMy ExPerIence CHronic
paIn (1-2% AccOrDinG to thE americAn UroLogiCaL ASSocIation). OUR cURRent
UnDeRstaNdiNg Of VasAlgeL Is tHat fluiDs can pass ThrOUgh tHe GeL, but speRm
cannot. This wIlL likely redUcE thE incidENCe of back-Pressure. Sperm
granulomas ARe formeD whEn the Vas dEferens is SevEred in A vaSEctomy And
speRm leaK iNto SURrounDINg TisSuE. Since injeCTIon Of VasAlGel dOes not
iNvolve cutting the vaS DefErens, this shouLd nOt be AN IsSue._

nOtICe tHe NOn-aNSWer below:

 _Our undeRstanding iS tHAt vasalgel woRKs bY bLocking Or filteRing oUT sperm.
IN the past, RiSUG (
 primal
urge is just fooli sh.

----- -
ph0 rqu e
T he re's  Par mesus Vasalgel that  is going through tria ls in  t h e US ,  b asedon
this te c h . A ls o,  ast a rt up wh ose  name I  forget is  de ve loping the s a me  kind of
t ech . They werepar t of Y CFel l owshi p B atch3.

~~ ~ 
ckast ner
The a rt i cle me n tions t h i s,  alt hough it's not qu i te clear to me ho w they  d i ff e r 
(a ndby how muc h) .

Pa r semus a p pa r e n tly got started b y licensing the  techn ol ogy from G uha,th e n
d eveloped it s ow n solutio n insp i red byt hat tec hnolog y.
~~ ~
24 g tt gh h
T he tec h  i n t h isarticleal lo w spe rm t h r o u gh b utdama ge th e sperm. ThePar semu s  te ch se ems t o bl oc k the  tubes  enti re ly.

~~~
tgtwea k
Un true, act ual ly  th ey  both use th e s ame  system  (and a l mos ti d e nt ical
formulation).  T h e  d ifferenc e bein g  t he focus on  t heFDAp r ocess  and US  marketthat v a se lg el is t ak ing, y ou  ca n s ee th e  cle verlyworded n on-an s wer on their
o w n FAQ, quoted be l o w. They  do  "filter" t he v a sdef eren t ia  an d  notblock  i t .T his is actually pre fe rentia l asit can allevi ate a smal l c hance of  pai n  o r 
sperm granulo mas a fter a vas e ctomy, a lso q uoted be low.

 _A l t hough Va sal gel  an d R I S UG ® are based o n thesa me conc ept  of usi nga
p oly mer  g el inject ed intoth eva sdef erens ,  the for mu lat io nsare n o t thesame. 
And  R IS U G h as been de v e lope dan d te ste din In diao ver  multip le decade s,w hile 
V as algel i s being devel op ed in theUn ite d Stat e s  to conf orm to the latest FDA
a n d inter nat ional  cod es of pro duc tion a nds afety. _

And 

 _o nl y a s mallp e rc ent ag e of men w h o  ha ve ha da va sectomy  experience chroni c 
pa in (1-2% acco rdi ng t o th e A m er i can  U r olo g i cal Association ). Our cur re n tunderstand i ngof  Vasalg el is t hat f l uids ca n pass th rough the  g el,b u t s perm
canno t. Thiswill like l y red u ce  theinc idence  o f b ack-p ressur e . S permgranul om as are  form ed  when th e vas deferens is sever ed ina vas ect omy and
s per m  le ak into s urro unding tis sue . S inceinj e ction  ofV as alg e l doe s no t 
involvec ut tin g th e vas defer e n s , t his s hou l d notbe a n issue._

Notice the non-answer  bel o w :
 _O u r un de rstanding is t hat  V a s algel wo rk s by blocki ng or fi lt e ringout sp erm.
I n the p a s t, RISUG(
 primal
urge_is just_foolish.

------
ph0rque
There's Parmesus Vasalgel that_is going_through_trials in_the_US, based on
this_tech. Also, a_startup whose name I_forget is developing_the_same kind of
tech. They were part of YC Fellowship Batch 3.

~~~
ckastner
The article mentions this,_although_it's not_quite_clear_to me how they differ
(and_by how much).

Parsemus apparently got_started by_licensing the technology from Guha, then
developed its own_solution_inspired by that_technology.

~~~
24gttghh
The tech in this article allow sperm through but_damage the sperm. The
Parsemus tech seems_to block the_tubes_entirely.

~~~
tgtweak
Untrue,_actually they both use_the same system (and almost identical
formulation)._The difference being the focus on_the FDA process and US market
that vaselgel_is taking, you can see the_cleverly worded non-answer on their
own_FAQ, quoted_below. They do "filter" the_vasdeferentia and not_block it.
This_is actually preferential_as it can alleviate a small_chance of pain_or
sperm granulomas after a vasectomy, also_quoted_below.

 _Although Vasalgel_and_RISUG®_are based_on the same_concept_of using_a
polymer_gel injected into the vas deferens,_the_formulations are not the same.
And RISUG has_been developed and tested_in_India over multiple decades,_while
Vasalgel is being developed in_the United States to conform to_the latest_FDA
and international_codes of production and safety._

And

 _only a small percentage of men_who have had a vasectomy experience_chronic
pain (1-2% according to_the American_Urological_Association). Our current
understanding_of_Vasalgel is_that fluids can pass through the gel,_but sperm
cannot._This will likely reduce the incidence_of back-pressure. Sperm
granulomas are_formed_when the vas deferens is severed_in a vasectomy and
sperm leak into_surrounding tissue. Since injection of_Vasalgel_does_not
involve cutting the vas deferens,_this should not be an issue._

Notice_the non-answer below:

__Our understanding is that Vasalgel works by_blocking_or filtering out sperm.
In the past,_RISUG_(