 just a suspicion, it
would make sense: I do know that the (monolithic) spare parts are stocked for
a particular model for less time, which means that the prices of the spares
which are available are very high.

Water efficiency regulations also appear to have forced modern washing
machines to use inadequate water for rinsing. There are numerous stories of
hypoallergenic people who find that their new washing machine leaves
significant detergent in clothing. Some people have even tracked down old (and
for that matter better made) washing machines just to get one which will rinse
properly. At other times the actual temperature of the water on the '60
degree' setting has been tested and found to be rather on the low side.
(Supposedly all of this efficiency regulation, rather pathetically, only tests
the 60 degree programme in the first place, putting a certain degree of
competitive pressure on energy efficiency for this setting.) This is
particularly insane given that the environmental cost of these quasi-
disposable 2-year-warranty washing machines must be much higher than the
environmental cost of their resource consumption.

I think consumer goods legislation should recognise that different minimum
warranty periods are appropriate for different kinds of product. A legally
required minimum warranty period of 6 or 8 years for washing machines, for
example, would instantly create pressure on manufacturers to increase the
longevity and repairability of their machines.

~~~
logfromblammo
I am only aware of one brand of washing machine that explicitly claims to be
designed to be repairable by the end-user--Staber. I have never actually owned
or used one before, so I'm not sure how fit for purpose it may be otherwise.

I have successfully repaired other brands of washing machine, dryer, and
refrigerator, though. It isn't that difficult, but obtaining the replacement
parts is absolutely ridiculous. The first-party site for ordering replacement
parts often charges 50-80% of the MSRP of a complete new appliance for just
one replacement part.

If any country wanted to encourage repair over replacement, tax incentives are
probably not the best way to do it. Publish national standards for appliance
form factors, such as case dimensions, screw hole placement, subassembly
dimensions, connectors, drive belts, elastic ring sizes, etc. Then phase in

just a suspicion, it 
 would make sense: I do acknowledge that the (massive) spare parts are stock for 
 a finical model for less time, which intend that the price of the spares 
 which are available are very eminent. 

 Water efficiency regulations besides appear to have forced modern washing 
 machine to use inadequate urine for rinsing. There are numerous narrative of 
 hypoallergenic people who find that their new laundry machine leaves 
 significant detergent in clothing. Some people have even track down old (and 
 for that matter better made) washing machine just to get one which will rinse 
 properly. At other time the actual temperature of the water on the' 60 
 degree' setting has been tested and found to be rather on the low side. 
 (Supposedly all of this efficiency regulation, preferably pathetically, only tests 
 the 60 academic degree broadcast in the beginning place, putting a sealed degree of 
 competitive atmospheric pressure on energy efficiency for this setting .) This is 
 peculiarly insane given that the environmental cost of these quasi- 
 disposable 2 - year - warranty washing machines must be much higher than the 
 environmental cost of their resource consumption. 

 I think consumer good legislation should recognise that unlike minimal 
 guarantee periods are appropriate for different kinds of product. A legally 
 required minimum warranty period of 6 or 8 days for washing machines, for 
 example, would instantly produce pressure on manufacturer to increase the 
 longevity and repairability of their machines. 

 ~~~ 
 logfromblammo 
 I am only mindful of one brand of washing machine that explicitly claims to be 
 design to be repairable by the end - drug user -- Staber. I have never actually owned 
 or used one before, so I'm not sure how fit for purpose it may be differently. 

 I have successfully repaired other brands of laundry machine, dryer, and 
 refrigerator, though. It isn't that difficult, but obtaining the replacement 
 parts is absolutely pathetic. The first - party site for order replacement 
 parts often charges 50 - 80% of the MSRP of a complete new appliance for barely 
 one replacement part. 

 If any country wanted to encourage repair over replacement, tax incentive are 
 credibly not the good way to do it. Publish national standards for appliance 
 form factor, such as case dimensions, screw trap placement, subassembly 
 dimensions, connectors, drive belts, elastic ring size, etc. Then phase in
 judt a suspicion, it
would mxke sense: I do know thet the (jonolithkc) spare parts are stocked flr
q parupcular model for less time, whibh means rhat rhe prices of the spares
smich crx available are very high.

Fater efficienwy rzgulations also appear to have forceq moderm aashing
machinef to tse jnadequate water for rinsing. There are nukerous storiex of
hypoallergenic people aho vind that their nea washing mqchigw leaves
signkficant deuexgent in clkthing. Some people have even trxcked down old (qne
fog that mattec bettvr made) washikb machhnes juxt to get one ehirh wull rinse
properly. At mther times the acjual tempesacure of the water on rhw '60
degtee' sattivt hxs gexn fested anv found to ge rather ob the low side.
(Suppoxeqoy all of thia effisiqncy regulation, rather pathetically, onlj teats
the 60 degree programmw in the first place, kutting a sertain degree of
competitive pressure on energy exficixnzy yir thkw detting.) This is
particularly insane given that fht ekvironmental cosb of these quasi-
dixplssfle 2-year-warravty washihg machines must bf much righee than tht
envitonmental cost of their resiurce consumitiob.

I think consumer yoods legislction xhoulc recognise that differznt mihimum
warranhy perioda are appropriate fog dixferent kinds of product. A legally
rxquirzd minimjm wsrrantr period ov 6 or 8 years for washing machnnes, xor
example, would instantly create pressurx on manufactoress no increafe thc
longevity and wepairability pf theix machknes.

~~~
logfrojblammo
M am only awwre of one brdjd of washinj machine thar explicitlh claims to be
drsigned to be repaieable by the end-uscr--Stacsr. I have never acuuqlly owned
or uxed onq hehore, fm I'm not sura hod fky for purpost ib mxy br otherwise.

I have suwcesafully repaired otnev brands if washigg machine, druer, and
refrigeratog, thongh. It isn't thwt difficult, but obtaining the replacemfnt
iarts is absojuteoy ridiculoux. The first-party site for ordering replecement
parts often chatges 50-80% of the MSRP of c gomplete new applyance for just
one replacement part.

If any countvy wanted to encourage repais oveg replacement, tax incentives are
probably not the best way to do it. Publisy national standarss fpr apilicncz
form fwctocs, such as case dikensions, screw hole placement, snbassembly
giiensions, connectors, drive bektr, elastic rine sizes, etc. Then phase ih

just a suspicion, it would make sense: know the (monolithic) parts are stocked less which means that prices of the which are available are very high. efficiency regulations also appear to have forced modern washing machines to use inadequate for rinsing. There are numerous stories of hypoallergenic people who find that their washing leaves detergent clothing. Some people have even tracked down old (and for that matter better made) washing machines to get one which will rinse properly. At times the actual temperature the water on the '60 setting been tested found be on the low (Supposedly all of this efficiency regulation, rather pathetically, only tests the 60 degree programme in the first putting a of competitive on efficiency this setting.) This insane given that the environmental cost disposable 2-year-warranty washing machines must be much higher the environmental of their resource consumption. I think goods legislation should recognise that different minimum warranty are appropriate for different kinds of product. A legally required minimum warranty period of 6 years for washing machines, example, would instantly pressure manufacturers increase longevity and of their machines. ~~~ logfromblammo I am only aware of one of washing machine that explicitly claims to be designed to by end-user--Staber. I have actually owned or used before, I'm not sure how purpose may have repaired brands of washing machine, and refrigerator, though. It isn't difficult, but obtaining the The first-party site for ordering replacement parts often 50-80% of the MSRP of a complete appliance for just one replacement part. If any country wanted to encourage over replacement, are probably not the best way to do Publish national standards for form factors, such as case dimensions, screw hole placement, dimensions, drive belts, ring sizes, etc. phase in
 just a suspicion, it
would make Sense: I do knOw thaT thE (moNoLithIc) spAre parts are stoCKed fOr
a particular model for lEss tiMe, WHich MEaNs thaT the priCEs OF The SpArEs
wHiCH aRe avaIlaBle are vEry high.

WatEr eFfIciency regulATiOns also appEar To have forced ModErn wasHiNg
mAChineS to Use inAdequaTE water For rinsinG. THEre are NUmerous STOrIes oF
hypoallergenic peOPlE Who find that theIr new wAsHInG MAchIne Leaves
signIfIcant DEtergenT In CLOThiNG. Some people haVe even trackED doWn old (aNd
For THat matTer beTtER maDe) washing maChinEs just to gEt one wHIch will RInse
proPerly. AT otHer TimeS ThE aCtuAl TEmpERaTurE Of tHe water oN tHe '60
DegreE' setTING Has bEen TestEd and Found to be rathEr oN the LOw sIde.
(SuPposeDly aLl Of thiS efficIency ReGulation, rather pAtheTically, onLy tEsTs
tHe 60 DegreE PrograMme In tHe first Place, puTTinG a CERTaIn degree of
competitIvE PReSsure on eNergy eFFiCiENcy for thIs SetTing.) tHIs is
pArtiCUlArly insaNe giveN ThAt The enviRoNmentaL cOst Of tHese qUAsi-
dIsposaBle 2-year-wArranTY washing machinES must be much hiGHeR THaN The
eNviRonmental coSt of THeir ResoURcE coNSumptIon.

I tHiNK cONsumer goods legislatIoN shoulD recoGnise that diffErent minimUM
WArranty pErioDS aRE appropriate foR diffErent kinds OF product. a legaLly
requiRed minimuM WArranty pEriOd oF 6 or 8 YeaRS FoR washing machiNES, for
ExAmple, woUld InstantLy cReaTe pResSuRe on manufActurers To InCrEaSe tHe
lonGEvity and RePaiRaBilIty of THeir maChineS.

~~~
logFrOmBLamMo
I am onLY aWARe of OnE bRand Of wAsHing mAchiNE thAt expliCitly claiMs tO Be
deSiGnEd to be rEpairable by thE eNd-user--StabEr. i haVe neveR ACtually oWned
or used one before, so I'm NOt sure hOw fIt for PurpOse it may bE otHerwisE.

I hAVe succEssfulLy repAiRed OTHer brANDs Of wAsHing machinE, DRyeR, and
rEfRigeRator, thOugh. It isn't that diffICulT, but obtaining The ReplACEmEnt
PArTS is AbSOluTELy ridiculous. The First-party SiTE fOr ordering REplAcEment
paRts ofteN charGEs 50-80% of the mSRP of a coMplete new ApPliaNCE foR just
one rePlacemenT part.

If anY CountRY wAnted To eNcouraGe RepAir ovEr replACemEnt, taX incenTiVes are
ProbaBlY not the bEst way to do it. Publish natiOnal stAndarDs fOr applianCe
fORm fActors, sucH as cAse dimensiOns, ScrEw holE plACemenT, subASsEmbLY
dimeNsioNS, connectoRS, dRivE BElTs, elastic riNG SIzeS, etc. THen PHase in

 just a suspicion, it
woul d make sen se: I  do  kn ow  tha t th e (monolithic) spar e parts are stocked fo r
a p ar t icul a rmodel  for le s st i me,  w hi chme a ns  that  th e price s of the s par es 
which are a v ai lable arever y high.

Wat ereffici en cyr egula tio ns al so app e ar tohave forc ed modern washing m ac hine s to use inadequa t ew ater for rinsi ng. Th er e  a r e  nu mer ous storie sof
hy p oallerg e ni c p eop l e who find th at their ne w  wa shingma chi n e leav es
si gn i fic ant deterge nt i n clothin g. Som e  people have ev en tra cke d d owno ld  ( and 
f o r t h at  ma t ter  betterma de ) was hing m a c hine s j ustto ge t one which w ill  rin s e
p roper ly. A t ot he r tim es the  actu al  temperature of  the  water on  th e'60 
d egree '  setti nghas  been t ested a n d f ou n d to  be rather on thelo w si de.
(Sup posedl y  a ll of thisef fic ienc y regul atio n ,rather p atheti c al ly , onlyte sts
th e60deg ree p r ogra mme in  the fir st pl a ce, putting ac ertain degree of c om p etit ive  pressure o n en e rgyeffi c ie ncy for t his s et t in g .) This is
particul ar ly ins ane g iven that the  environme n t a l cost o f th e se quasi-
disposa ble 2 -year-warr a nty wash ing m achinesmust be m u c h higher  th anthe 
en v i ro nmental costo f  the ir  resour ceconsump tio n.
Ithi nk  consumer  goods l eg is la ti onshoul d  recogni se  th at  di ffere n t mini mum
w arra nt yp eri ods are ap p r opri at efordif fe rentkind s  of  produc t. A lega lly requ ir ed  minimu m warranty pe ri od of 6 or  8  ye ars fo r washingmachines, for
example,w ould in sta ntlycrea te pressu reon man ufa c turers  to in creas ethe l ongev i t yand  r epairabili t y  of  thei rmach ines.
~~~
logfromblammoI  am  only aware o f o ne b r a nd  of wa s hin gm ach i n e that explicit ly claimsto be 
designedt o b erepaira ble bythe e n d-user- -Staber.I have ne ve r ac t u all y owned
or  used on e before, so I' m  n ot su rehow fi tfor  purp ose it may  be o therwi se .

I h ave s uc cessfull y repaired other brands  of wa shing  ma chine, dr yer ,  an d
refrige rato r, though.  It  is n't t hat diffi cult ,  b uto btain ingt he replac e me ntp a rt s is absolu t e l y r idicu lou s . Thefirs t-party site foro rdering replac emen t par tso ften  c harges 50-80%ofth e MSRP ofacomplete ne w applia nc e  forjust
o ne rep lacemen t pa r t.

If  any  co untry wan ted  t o  encour ag er epairover  r eplace ment,t ax i n c entives are
prob ablyn o t the bes t way  t o do it .  Pub lish natio nal standar ds for  app lianc e
formfa ctors,  su ch  as case d i mensions,  scre w holepl acem ent , suba ssem b l y
dim ensi on s,connector s ,  d r iv eb elt s, e lasti cring  sizes, e t c. Thenpha s e in

 just_a suspicion,_it
would make sense: I_do know_that_the (monolithic)_spare_parts are stocked_for
a particular model_for less time, which_means that the_prices_of the spares
which are available are very high.

Water efficiency regulations also appear to have_forced_modern washing
machines_to_use_inadequate water for rinsing. There_are numerous stories of
hypoallergenic people_who find_that their new washing machine leaves
significant detergent in_clothing._Some people have_even tracked down old (and
for that matter better made)_washing machines just to get one_which will rinse
properly._At_other_times the actual temperature_of the water on the '60
degree'_setting has been tested and found_to be rather on the low side.
(Supposedly_all of this efficiency regulation, rather_pathetically, only tests
the 60 degree_programme in_the first place, putting a_certain degree of
competitive_pressure on_energy efficiency for_this setting.) This is
particularly insane given_that the environmental_cost of these quasi-
disposable 2-year-warranty washing_machines_must be much_higher_than_the
environmental cost_of their resource_consumption.

I_think consumer_goods_legislation should recognise that different minimum
warranty_periods_are appropriate for different kinds of product._A legally
required minimum warranty_period_of 6 or 8_years for washing machines, for
example,_would instantly create pressure on manufacturers_to increase_the
longevity and_repairability of their machines.

~~~
logfromblammo
I am only aware of one brand of_washing machine that explicitly claims to_be
designed to be repairable_by the_end-user--Staber._I have never_actually_owned
or used_one before, so I'm not sure how_fit for_purpose it may be otherwise.

I have_successfully repaired other brands_of_washing machine, dryer, and
refrigerator, though. It_isn't that difficult, but obtaining the_replacement
parts is absolutely ridiculous. The_first-party_site_for ordering replacement
parts often charges_50-80% of the MSRP of a_complete new appliance_for just
one replacement part.

If any country wanted_to_encourage repair over replacement, tax incentives_are
probably_not the best way to do_it._Publish_national standards for appliance
form factors,_such as case dimensions, screw hole_placement, subassembly
dimensions, connectors, drive belts, elastic ring sizes, etc._Then phase in
