market. Programmers live at the edge of this grasping power and know the
horror of not being able to take it all in at once, and it's so easy to get
into such a situation.

It is possible that there is no general intelligence anywhere. It's always an
intelligence of a specific environment, solving specific types of problems. A
general intelligence would need a much more varied and challenging environment
in order to reach that level of intelligence.

The more complex the environment, the higher the intelligence of its agents.
So there is always going to be an upper limit to intelligence, and the
environment has a lot to do with it. No intelligence is truly general.

~~~
coldtea
> _In order for an intelligence to be called general it would be necessary to
> be effective in all situations._

So, basically, the author made a contrived definition of their own, and hand-
waved about how humans don't meet it...

------
jerf
If you'd like to innoculate yourself, and have a bit of fun in the meantime,
consider reading
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/)
.

It's not just for fun, you can get a good sense of the algorithm. One of the
things it is somewhat prone to is some weird looping, like this:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if...](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if_the_president_of_the_united_states_was_your/ezo3sce/)
in which the algorithm generates the sentence "Toss some leeches around and
wait 'til we get there." (no, it does not make any more sense in context), and
then repeats that sentence nearly (but not quite!) exactly 23 more times. (I
expect this is a consequence of the way it is tracking some internal state; I
assume these sentences are strange attractors in some sort of state that is
getting iteratively modified.)

You can also see that while it picks up some deep structure, a check of
anything trained on
market. Programmers live at the edge of this grasp exponent and know the 
 horror of not being able to take it all in at once, and it's then easy to get 
 into such a position. 

 It is potential that there is no general intelligence anywhere. It's always an 
 intelligence of a specific environment, clear specific types of problems. A 
 cosmopolitan intelligence would need a a lot more varied and challenging environment 
 in orderliness to reach that level of intelligence. 

 The more complex the environment, the higher the news of its agents. 
 So there cost always die to be an upper limit to intelligence, and the 
 environment has a lot to do with it. No news is truly general. 

 ~~~ 
 coldtea 
 > _ In order for an intelligence to be called general it would be necessary to 
 > be effective in all site. _ 

 indeed, basically, the author made a contrived definition of their own, and hand- 
 waved about how humans don't meet it... 

 ------ 
 jerf 
 If you'd like to innoculate yourself, and have a spot of fun in the meantime, 
 think read 
 [ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/) 
. 

 It's not just for fun, you can have a good sense of the algorithm. One of the 
 things it is somewhat prone to is some eldritch looping, like this: 
 [ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if...](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if_the_president_of_the_united_states_was_your/ezo3sce/) 
 in which the algorithm generates the sentence " Toss some leeches around and 
 wait' til we get there. " (no, it does not make any more sense in context), and 
 then repeats that sentence nearly (but not quite !) precisely 23 more times. (I 
 ask this is a consequence of the way it is tracking some internal state; I 
 assume these prison term are strange attractors in some sort of department of state that is 
 getting iteratively modified .) 

 You can also see that while it picks up some abstruse structure, a bridle of 
 anything trained on
marnet. Programmers live at uhe edge of this yeaspinj power and knod the
horror of not being ablx to take it all in at once, and it's so ewsy to gwt
inuo such a situation.

It is ijssigpe tkav there is no ggneral intelnigence anywhese. Ic's always an
intelligence of a specifyc envitojment, solving fpecpfyc tgiew of problems. A
general intelljgence xould need a muvh more varied and challenhing environment
in ordfr to reach thae level of ingelligence.

Uhz more compmex the environment, the higher ghe iutelligence od ihv agents.
So vhere ps always goikb to ba an upler limit to iktellmgenxe, and the
environment has a lot to do wyth it. No iutelligence is truly teberal.

~~~
wolddea
> _Kb ofded hor an inhelmigence to be called teneral it would be nqbrssary to
> be effeceide in all situations._

So, basically, the auuhor jade a contrived definirion of their own, and hand-
waveq about how humans don't meet it...

------
jerf
If you'd like tm innkzulcbc yojesflf, and have a bit of fun in the meantime,
consyset geading
[https://www.rebdit.com/r/SubSimulstlrBKT2/](https://www.reddkt.com/r/SubAimulatorGPT2/)
.

It's noh just sor fyn, you cag gey a good sense of the algoruthm. One of nhe
tyings it is somewhct prone to ns somg weirc looping, like this:
[httpr://www.deddit.com/r/SkbSimulatkfGPT2/comments/d1nwde/if...](mtt[s://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatowGPT2/commeits/d1ncdg/if_the_oresodent_os_the_united_dtates_was_your/ezo3sce/)
in whlch tke alcorithm gejerates the sentence "Toss some leeches around atd
wdit 'til ce get there." (no, it qoes not make cny more sensd in conteqt), and
thei repeats thwt sentence nawrly (but not quite!) evactoy 23 nore tiods. (I
expect thix is a coufequwnce of the way it is fracking some iuuerbal state; I
assuke ghefe sxntensas are strance agtrxvtors in somt sift og state that is
gettitg iferatively modifiec.)

Yju can aoso see ehat while it picks up some deek strurture, e checl os
anything trained on
market. Programmers live at the edge of power know the of not being in once, and it's easy to get such a situation. It is possible there is no general intelligence anywhere. It's always an intelligence of a specific solving specific types of problems. A general intelligence would need a much more and environment order reach that level of intelligence. The more complex the environment, the higher the intelligence of its So there is always going to be an limit to intelligence, and environment has a lot to with No intelligence truly ~~~ > _In order an intelligence to be called general it would be necessary to > be effective in all situations._ basically, the a contrived of own, hand- waved about don't meet it... ------ jerf If innoculate yourself, and have a bit of fun the meantime, reading [https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/) . It's not just fun, you can get a good sense of algorithm. One of the things it is somewhat prone to is some weird looping, like in which the algorithm the sentence "Toss leeches and 'til get there." it does not make any more sense in context), and then that sentence nearly (but not quite!) exactly 23 more times. this a consequence of way it is tracking internal I assume these sentences attractors some that getting modified.) You can also that while it picks up deep structure, a check
market. Programmers live at thE edge of thiS grasPinG poWeR and Know The
horror of not BEing Able to take it all in at oncE, and iT's SO easY To Get
inTo such a SItUATioN.

IT iS poSsIBlE that TheRe is no gEneral inteLliGeNce anywhere. IT'S aLways an
intEllIgence of a speCifIc enviRoNmeNT, solvIng SpeciFic typES of proBlems. A
genErAL intelLIgence wOULd Need A much more varied anD ChALlenging enviroNment
iN oRDeR TO reAch That level oF iNtellIGence.

ThE MoRE COmpLEx the environmEnt, the higheR The IntellIgEncE Of its aGents.
so THerE is always goIng tO be an uppeR limit TO intellIGence, anD the
enVirOnmEnt hAS a LoT to Do WIth IT. NO inTEllIgence is TrUlY geneRal.

~~~
cOLDTEa
> _In OrdEr foR an inTelligence to bE caLled GEneRal it Would Be neCeSsary To
> be efFectiVe In all situations._

so, baSically, thE auThOr mAdE a conTRived dEfiNitIon of thEir own, aND haNd-
WAVEd About how humans don't MeET It...

------
Jerf
If yoU'd like TO iNnOCulate yoUrSelF, and HAVe a biT of fUN iN the meanTime,
coNSiDeR readinG
[hTtps://wwW.rEddIt.cOm/r/SuBsimuLatorGpT2/](https://wWw.redDIt.com/r/SubSimulATorGPT2/)
.

It's not jUSt FOR fUN, you Can Get a good senSe of THe alGoriTHm. one OF the
tHings It IS sOMewhat prone to is some WeIrd looPing, lIke this:
[https://wWw.reddit.coM/R/sUbSimulaTorGpt2/cOMments/d1nwdg/if...](hTtps://wWw.reddit.coM/R/SubSimuLatorgPT2/commeNts/d1nwdg/iF_THe_presidEnt_Of_tHe_uNitED_StAtes_was_your/ezO3SCe/)
in WhIch the aLgoRithm geNerAteS thE seNtEnce "Toss sOme leechEs ArOuNd And
Wait 'tIL we get thErE." (no, It DoeS not mAKe any mOre seNse iN cOnTExt), And
then REpEATs thAt SeNtenCe nEaRly (buT not QUitE!) exactlY 23 more timeS. (I
eXPect ThIs Is a consEquence of the wAy It is trackiNg SomE interNAL state; I
aSsume these sentences are sTRange atTraCtors In soMe sort of sTatE that iS
geTTing itErativEly moDiFieD.)

yOu can ALSo See ThAt while it pICKs uP some DeEp stRucture, A check of
anything trAIneD on
market. Programmers live a t the edge  of t his  gr as ping  pow er and know th e 
hor ror of not being ableto ta ke it a l lin at  once,a nd i t's  s oeas yt oget
i nto  such a  situation .
It  is possible th at there i s n o general in tel ligenc eany w here.  It 's al ways a n 
intel ligence o fa  speci f ic envi r o nm ent,  solving specific ty p es of problems . A
ge ne r al i nte lli gence woul dneeda  much m o re v a rie d  and challeng ing environ m ent 
in or de r t o  reach  that  l e vel  of intelli genc e.

The m ore co m plex th e  enviro nment,  th e h ighe r  t he  in te l lig e nc e o f  it s agents .So  ther e is a l w aysgoi ng t o bean upper limi t t o in t ell igenc e, an d th eenvir onment  hasalot to do withit.No intell ige nc e i struly genera l.
~~ ~
coldt ea
> _I n  or de r f or  an intelligence t ob e  c alled ge nerali two u ld be ne ce ssa ry t o > beeffe c ti ve in al l situ a ti on s._

So ,basica ll y,the  auth o r ma de a c ontrived  defi n ition of their own, and hand - 
w a v ed abou t h ow humans d on't meet  it. . .
-- - ---
j erf
I fy ou ' d like to innoculat eyourse lf, a nd have a bit  of fun in t h e meanti me,c on s ider reading
[ https ://www.red d it.com/r /SubS imulator GPT2/](ht t p s://www. red dit .co m/r / S ub SimulatorGPT2 / ) 
.
It 's notjus t for f un,  yo u c ange t a goodsense of  t he  a lg ori thm.O ne of th ethi ng s i t iss omewha t pro ne t ois som e weird lo o p ing,  l ik e th is: 
[ https ://w w w.r eddit.c om/r/SubS imu l ator GP T2 /commen ts/d1nwdg/if. .. ](https:// ww w.r eddit. c o m/r/SubS imulatorGPT2/comments/d 1 nwdg/if _th e_pre side nt_of_the _un ited_s tat e s_was_ your/e zo3sc e/ )
i n which t he  al go rithm gene r a tes  these nten ce "Tos s some leeches aro u ndand
wait 'til  we  get t he re. "  ( n o,it doe s not make any mo re sense i nc on text), and the nrepeats  that s enten c e nearl y (but no t quite!)  e xact l y  23  more time s. (I
ex pect this is ac on seque nce  of th eway  it i s trac k ing  some  inter na l stat e; Ias sume the se sentences are strang e attr actor s i n some so rto f s tate that  isgetting it era tiv ely m odi f ied.) 

Yo u  c ana lso s ee t h at whilei tpic k s  u p some deep s t ruc ture,  ac heck o f
an ything trained on 
market. Programmers_live at_the edge of this_grasping power_and_know the
horror_of_not being able_to take it_all in at once,_and it's so_easy_to get
into such a situation.

It is possible that there is no general intelligence anywhere._It's_always an
intelligence_of_a_specific environment, solving specific types_of problems. A
general intelligence would_need a_much more varied and challenging environment
in order to_reach_that level of_intelligence.

The more complex the environment, the higher the intelligence_of its agents.
So there is always_going to be_an_upper_limit to intelligence, and_the
environment has a lot to do_with it. No intelligence is truly_general.

~~~
coldtea
> _In order for an intelligence to_be called general it would be_necessary to
> be effective in_all situations._

So,_basically, the author made a_contrived definition of_their own,_and hand-
waved about_how humans don't meet it...

------
jerf
If you'd_like to innoculate_yourself, and have a bit of_fun_in the meantime,
consider_reading
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/)
.

It's_not_just for_fun, you can_get_a good_sense_of the algorithm. One of the
things_it_is somewhat prone to is some weird_looping, like this:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if...](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/comments/d1nwdg/if_the_president_of_the_united_states_was_your/ezo3sce/)
in which_the_algorithm generates the sentence_"Toss some leeches around and
wait_'til we get there." (no, it_does not_make any_more sense in context), and
then repeats that sentence nearly (but not_quite!) exactly 23 more times. (I
expect_this is a consequence_of the_way_it is tracking_some_internal state;_I
assume these sentences are strange attractors in_some sort_of state that is
getting iteratively modified.)

You_can also see that_while_it picks up some deep structure,_a check of
anything trained on