 get several kinds of tax breaks. Also, many founders get
started while on unemployment benefits.

~~~
cracker_jacks
What are you thinking the salary of early stage startups are in the Bay Area?
I really doubt the ratio is 2:1 compared to Paris.

~~~
hocuspocus
Gross salary would be more like 3:1. Real cost to the employer at least 2:1.

I just opened AngelList to search for junior developer positions at seed-stage
startups and it confirms the ratio.

SF: 80-120k

Paris: 30-45k

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hn_news
If start up becomes successful, Will Facebook own part of the equity in this
start up?

As a founder, why would i want to give up equity to Facebook? Why would i need
to be in this "garage"?

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d_theorist
"Thirty students will meet with Facebook every week to make the world a better
place (or that’s how I think about it)."

Fantastic neutral reporting here from TechCrunch. Not at all just a recycled
press release.

~~~
Jordrok
_" But most importantly we're making the world a better place. Through
constructing elegant hierarchies for maximum code reuse and
extensibility."_[1]

Which one is the parody? Sometimes it's hard to tell.

[1]
[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998)

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trhway
given the history of creativity in Paris shouldn't it be a mansard instead of
garage?

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sbt
this is political theatre

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danyfs
Thanks Facebook for this good offering! WE will certainly apply to be part of
it.

 
Facebook algorithm found to actively promote holocaust denial - elsewhen
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/16/facebook-algorithm-found-to-actively-promote-holocaust-denial
======
lipstone
Surely the tech-minded folks of HN understand that this doesn't actually occur
under any reasonable definition of
get several kinds of tax breaks. besides, many founder get 
 started while on unemployment benefits. 

 ~~~ 
 cracker_jacks 
 What are you think the wage of early stage startups are in the Bay Area? 
 I really doubt the proportion is 2:1 compare to Paris. 

 ~~~ 
 hocuspocus 
 Gross wage would be more like 3:1. veridical cost to the employer at least 2:1. 

 I barely opened AngelList to search for junior developer position at seed - stage 
 startups and it confirms the ratio. 

 SF: 80 - 120k 

 Paris: 30 - 45k 

 ------ 
 hn_news 
 If get down up becomes successful, Will Facebook own part of the equity in this 
 begin up? 

 As a founder, why would i want to give up equity to Facebook? Why would i necessitate 
 to be in this " garage "? 

 ------ 
 d_theorist 
 " Thirty students will meet with Facebook every week to make the world a good 
 place (or that ’s how I think about it). " 

 Fantastic neutral reporting here from TechCrunch. Not at wholly merely a recycled 
 press release. 

 ~~~ 
 Jordrok 
 _ " But most importantly we're making the world a better place. Through 
 constructing elegant hierarchy for maximum code reuse and 
 extensibility. "_[1 ] 

 Which one is the parody? Sometimes it's hard to distinguish. 

 [ 1 ] 
 [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998) 

 ------ 
 trhway 
 pass the history of creativity in Paris shouldn't it be a mansard instead of 
 garage? 

 ------ 
 sbt 
 this is political theatre 

 ------ 
 danyfs 
 Thanks Facebook for this good offering! WE will certainly apply to be part of 
 it. 

 
 Facebook algorithm found to actively advertise holocaust denial - elsewhen 
 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/16/facebook-algorithm-found-to-actively-promote-holocaust-denial 
 = = = = = = 
 lipstone 
 Surely the tech - minded folks of HN understand that this doesn't actually occur 
 under any reasonable definition of
 geh several kinds of tax bveaks. Also, many yiunderv get
sfarted wfile on unemployment benefitd.

~~~
ceackee_jacks
What are you thivking the salary if eerly stage startnls are lu the Nay Axee?
I really doubt the ratio is 2:1 compared do Pcris.

~~~
hocuspocus
Gross salary would be iore lile 3:1. Real cost to the qmplkjev at least 2:1.

I just opened AngelLiat to starch for junior drveloper positions at seed-dtagf
startups and it clnfirms the ratyi.

SF: 80-120k

Paris: 30-45k

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fn_news
If suaxt up becomgs successful, Will Facebook own oart pf the equutt ij this
start np?

As a founder, why would i want tp give up equiby to Faxebook? Why would i nexd
to be in this "garade"?

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d_theorivt
"Chirty students will newt wijh Fawebouj exerg xeei to mwke the world a better
plqce (or that’s how I uhigj about it)."

Fanfastic nqutral reporting here from TechCrunch. Nmt zt all just a recycled
peess release.

~~~
Jordrok
_" Bot most im[ortantly we're making the world a better place. Thsough
rovstxmgtine epegant hierarchies for maximum code reuse and
qsttnspbility."_[1]

Which one ls the parody? Someyilex it's hard to jell.

[1]
[htt'://sws.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quohes?item=zt2896998](http://www.imdb.cjm/tiyle/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998)

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trhway
giveb the historj of creativity in Parns shouldn't nt be s manxard instead of
garage?

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sbc
this js politicap theatre

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sxnyfs
Thanks Facecool xor this good offering! WE rill certeinly apply go bg part jf
it.

 
Faceblok algorithm found to aftivepy promote hllocaust denial - elsewhen
https://wxx.theguardian.cpm/fornd/2020/aug/16/faczbook-akgorithm-found-eo-actively-prompte-holoeaust-ddnial
======
lipstkne
Sureny the tech-iinded folks mv HN understend that ehis doewn't actjxlly occur
undet any reasonable dedinition of
get several kinds of tax breaks. Also, get while on benefits. ~~~ cracker_jacks salary early stage startups in the Bay I really doubt the ratio is compared to Paris. ~~~ hocuspocus Gross salary would be more like 3:1. Real to the employer at least 2:1. I just opened AngelList to search for developer at startups it confirms the ratio. SF: 80-120k Paris: 30-45k ------ hn_news If start up becomes successful, Will own part of the equity in this start As a founder, why i want to give up to Why would need be this "garage"? ------ "Thirty students will meet with Facebook every week to make the world a better place (or that’s I think Fantastic neutral here TechCrunch. at all just press release. ~~~ Jordrok _" But making the world a better place. Through constructing hierarchies for code reuse and extensibility."_[1] Which one the parody? Sometimes it's hard to tell. [1] ------ trhway given the history of creativity in Paris shouldn't it be a mansard instead ------ sbt this is theatre ------ danyfs Facebook this offering! will certainly to be part of it. Facebook algorithm found to actively promote denial - elsewhen https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/16/facebook-algorithm-found-to-actively-promote-holocaust-denial ====== lipstone Surely the tech-minded folks understand this doesn't actually under any reasonable definition
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~~~
cracker_jacks
What arE you tHiNKing THe SalarY of earlY StAGE stArTuPs aRe IN tHe Bay areA?
I reallY doubt the rAtiO iS 2:1 compared to PARiS.

~~~
hocuspocuS
GrOss salary wouLd bE more lIkE 3:1. ReAL cost To tHe empLoyer aT Least 2:1.

I Just openeD ANGelLisT To searcH FOr JuniOr developer positiONs AT seed-stage
starTups anD iT CoNFIrmS thE ratio.

SF: 80-120k

PArIs: 30-45k

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hn_NEws
If stARt UP BEcoMEs successful, WIll Facebook OWn pArt of tHe EquITy in thIs
staRt UP?

As A founder, why WoulD i want to gIve up eQUity to FACebook? WHy woulD i nEed
To be IN tHiS "gaRaGE"?

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d_tHEoRisT
"thiRty studeNtS wIll meEt wiTH fACeboOk eVery Week tO make the world A beTter
PLacE (or thAt’s hoW I thInK abouT it)."

FanTastiC nEutral reporting Here From TechCRunCh. not At All juST a recyCleD
prEss releAse.

~~~
JordROk
_" BUt MOST iMportantly we're makiNg THE wOrld a betTer plaCE. THrOUgh
constRuCtiNg elEGAnt hiErarCHiEs for maxImum coDE rEuSe and
exTeNsibilItY."_[1]

WhIch One is THe paRody? SoMetimes iT's harD To tell.

[1]
[http://www.iMDb.com/title/tt3222784/qUOtES?ItEM=qt2896998](hTtp://Www.imdb.com/tItle/TT3222784/quoTes?iTEm=Qt2896998)

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tRHway
gIven tHe HIsTOry of creativity in PaRiS shoulDn't it Be a mansard insTead of
garaGE?

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SBt
this is PoliTIcAL theatre

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danyfs
thankS Facebook fOR this gooD offeRing! WE wiLl certainLY Apply to bE paRt oF
it.

 
facEBOoK algorithm fouND To acTiVely proMotE holocaUst DenIal - ElsEwHen
https://wWw.theguaRdIaN.cOm/WorLd/2020/aug/16/FAcebook-aLgOriThM-foUnd-to-ACtivelY-promOte-hOlOcAUst-Denial
======
lIPsTONe
SuReLy The tEch-MiNded fOlks OF HN UnderstAnd that thIs dOEsn't AcTuAlly occUr
under any reaSoNable definItIon Of
 get several kinds of taxbreaks. Al so, m any  fo un ders  get 
started while on u nemployment benefits.
~~~cr a cker _ ja cks
W hat are yo u thi nk in g t he sa laryofearly s tage start ups  a re in the Ba y  A rea?
I rea lly  doubt the r ati o is 2 :1  co m pared  to  Pari s.

~~ ~ 
hocus pocus
Gro ss salary would b e mo re l ike 3:1. Real cos t  t o  the employerat lea st 2: 1 . 

I  ju st openedAn gelLi s t to se a rc h f orj unior develop er position s  at  seed- st age startu ps an di t c onfirms the  rat io.

SF:80-120 k 

Paris :  30-45k 

---- --hn_ news If  s tar tu p b e co mes suc cessful,  W il l Fac eboo k o w n pa rtof t he eq uity in thissta rt u p ?
As afound er,wh y wou ld i w ant t ogive up equityto F acebook?Why  w oul di nee d 
to be  in  th is "gar age"?
- --- -- d _ th eorist
"Thirty stu de n t swill mee t with Fa ce b ook ever ywee k to m ake t he w o rl d a bett er
pla c e(o r that’ show Ith ink  ab out i t )."
Fanta stic neu tralr eporting heref rom TechCrunc h .N o ta t al l j ust a recyc ledp ress  rel e as e.~~~
J ordro k_ "B ut most importantly  w e're m aking  the world abetter pla c e .  Through 
con s tr u cting eleganthiera rchies for maximumcodereuse an d
extensi b i lity."_[ 1]
Wh ich  on e is  the parody?S o meti me s it'shar d to te ll. 

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t rhway
g iven thehis t oryof  c reativi ty in Paris s ho uldn't itbe  amansar d insteadof
garage?

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sbtt his ispol itica l th eatre

-- --- -
dany fsT hanksFacebo ok fo rthi s goodo f fe rin g!  WE will c e r tai nly a pp ly t o be pa rt of
it.

 
Faceb o okalgorithm fou ndto a c t iv ely pr o mot eh olo c a ust denial - el sewhen
htt ps : // www.thegua r dia n. com/wor ld/2020 /aug/ 1 6/faceb ook-algor ithm-foun d- to-a c t ive ly-promote -holocau st-denial ===== = 
l ipsto neSurely  t hetech- minded fol ks of  HN un de rstand  that  t his does n't actually occur
unde r anyreaso nab le defini tio n  of 
 get_several kinds_of tax breaks. Also,_many founders_get
started_while on_unemployment_benefits.

~~~
cracker_jacks
What are you_thinking the salary_of early stage startups_are in the_Bay_Area?
I really doubt the ratio is 2:1 compared to Paris.

~~~
hocuspocus
Gross salary would be more_like_3:1. Real_cost_to_the employer at least 2:1.

I_just opened AngelList to search_for junior_developer positions at seed-stage
startups and it confirms the_ratio.

SF:_80-120k

Paris: 30-45k

------
hn_news
If start_up becomes successful, Will Facebook own part of the_equity in this
start up?

As a founder,_why would i_want_to_give up equity to_Facebook? Why would i need
to be_in this "garage"?

------
d_theorist
"Thirty students will meet_with Facebook every week to make the_world a better
place (or that’s how_I think about it)."

Fantastic neutral_reporting here_from TechCrunch. Not at all_just a recycled
press_release.

~~~
Jordrok
_" But_most importantly we're_making the world a better place._Through
constructing elegant hierarchies_for maximum code reuse and
extensibility."_[1]

Which one_is_the parody? Sometimes_it's_hard_to tell.

[1]
[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3222784/quotes?item=qt2896998)

------
trhway
given_the history of_creativity_in Paris_shouldn't_it be a mansard instead of
garage?

------
sbt
this_is_political theatre

------
danyfs
Thanks Facebook for this good offering!_WE will certainly apply_to_be part of
it.

 
Facebook_algorithm found to actively promote_holocaust denial - elsewhen
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/16/facebook-algorithm-found-to-actively-promote-holocaust-denial
======
lipstone
Surely the tech-minded_folks of_HN understand_that this doesn't actually occur
under any reasonable definition of