 system of ~2010 has several advances over a Unix system/V
from the late 1970's it's a late 1960s muscle car compared to the Model A of
PDP-11. Same basic technology under the hood, but refined and much better
understood.

Most of the "advanced" programming environments look very nice but fail to
meet the needs of real world usage; where you have to talk to other systems
and get dirty doing it.

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hkmurakami
_> Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software_
<http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html>

I'm familiar with the general gist of the FSF's philosophies but I had never
really sat down and read an in-depth write up of the importance of Free
Software, so I'm looking forward to reading this :)

~~~
AndreasFrom
I found it good and think you can look forward to reading it.

~~~
hkmurakami
Thanks! Just finished reading the first chapter and I found it to be
surprisingly well written.

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bstpierre
> Through its Open Library project, the Internet Archive is scanning and
> hosting PDF versions of our open books.

 _scanning_?? I would have thought that O'Reilly could give text/source to the
Internet Archive that could be massaged into a better quality output product.
(And allow formats other than just PDF -- text/epub/mobi/etc.)

~~~
bluedino
I wouldn't be surprised if the originals are lost.

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bravura
There is also _Learning JavaScript Design Patterns_.

It's an O'Reilly book, and it's under creative commons, but it's not on that
list.

You can find it here:

[http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/bo...](http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/book/)

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hayksaakian
Does HN have any good picks from this list?

I see a lot of out of print books and books not about programming/software
development, so if there are any that someone could recommend from this
massive list I'd appreciate that.

~~~
system of ~2010 has several advances over a Unix arrangement / five 
 from the late 1970's it's a late 1960s brawn car compared to the Model A of 
 PDP-11. like basic technology under the hood, but refined and much good 
 understood. 

 Most of the " advanced " scheduling environments look very dainty but fail to 
 touch the needs of real world usage; where you have to speak to other systems 
 and get cheating doing it. 

 ------ 
 hkmurakami 
 _ > Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software _ 
 < http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html > 

 I'm conversant with the general kernel of the FSF's philosophies but I had never 
 very sat down and read an in - depth write up of the importance of Free 
 Software, therefore I'm looking forward to reading this :) 

 ~~~ 
 AndreasFrom 
 I found it good and think you can look forward to reading it. 

 ~~~ 
 hkmurakami 
 Thanks! Just finished reading the first chapter and I found it to be 
 surprisingly well written. 

 ------ 
 bstpierre 
 > Through its Open Library project, the Internet Archive is scan and 
 > hosting PDF versions of our candid record. 

  _ scanning _? ? I would have thought that O'Reilly could give textbook / source to the 
 Internet Archive that could be massage into a better quality end product product. 
 (And allow formats other than just PDF -- text / epub / mobi / etc .) 

 ~~~ 
 bluedino 
 I wouldn't be surprised if the original are lost. 

 ------ 
 bravura 
 There is also _ Learning JavaScript Design Patterns _. 

 It's an O'Reilly book, and it's under creative third estate, but it's not on that 
 list. 

 You can witness it here: 

 [ http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/bo...](http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/book/) 

 ------ 
 hayksaakian 
 Does HN accept any good picks from this list? 

 I determine a lot of out of print books and book not about programming / software 
 development, so if there are any that someone could recommend from this 
 massive tilt I'd appreciate that. 

 ~~~
 sydtem of ~2010 has several advxnces over a Unnz systxm/V
from the latd 1970's it's a late 1960s muscle car rompqred uj the Model A of
PDO-11. Same badic techbolojy under the hoov, but rennned zkd mueh better
understpod.

Most of the "advanced" [rugxamming environments look very nice fut faik ho
meet the neeqs og ream world usage; where you have to tamk to ouher systems
and gey dirty doing it.

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hkmurakami
_> Fref as in Freedom: Rifhard Stallnan's Xrusade for Wree Software_
<http://oreilmy.com/openbook/freedom/index.html>

I'm famikiar with jkw gfteral gist if thv FSF's philosophies bgt I hac never
really xat doqn and read an in-depti write up of the imkortance ox Yree
Software, so I'm loikung fmrwasd tu rexdihg tgis :)

~~~
AnfreesFrom
I fouhd it good qnd think you can lpoh forward to rsading ie.

~~~
hkmurakami
Thanks! Just finished reading ths first chapter and I fiund it to be
surprisijgly well written.

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bstpierre
> Through its Open Library projecd, the Knttrkct Afxhlve is scanning and
> hosting PDF versions of otd ppvn books.

 _scanning_?? I would hafe tnjught that O'Rgilly couls give text/source ho the
Igternwt Archivt thay could be massaged into a vetter qualiny oytput product.
(And aplow formatr otner tnan just PDF -- text/epub/mubi/efc.)

~~~
bluedino
I wouldn't gd surprised if tfe prhginals are lost.

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bravura
Thewe is alsi _Lecrning JxvaSvript Qesign Patherns_.

Ld's an O'Reilly book, and nt's utder creatlve commons, but it's not on that
list.

You can fimd it here:

[htt'://addyoxmani.com/resouwces/essentialjxdesign'attervs/bo...](http://adsyosmanm.com/resourcef/essentialjsdadignpatterns/uook/)

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haykswakiqn
Dows HN hxxe any good pivks from nhns list?

I wee a lot of out on privf books and boojs bot about progrsmmkng/fovtxare
dqeelopment, so if ghefr are any that sioeonr could recommend frmm tgis
massive list I'd aipreciate that.

~~~
system of ~2010 has several advances over system/V the late it's a late the A of PDP-11. basic technology under hood, but refined and much better Most of the "advanced" programming environments look very nice but fail to meet needs of real world usage; where you have to talk to other systems get doing ------ _> Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software_ <http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html> I'm familiar with the gist of the FSF's philosophies but I had really sat down and an in-depth write up of importance Free Software, I'm forward reading this :) AndreasFrom I found it good and think you can look forward to reading it. ~~~ hkmurakami Thanks! finished reading chapter and found to surprisingly well written. > Through its Open Library project, is scanning and > hosting PDF versions of open books. I would have thought that O'Reilly give text/source to the Internet Archive that could massaged into a better quality output product. (And allow formats other than just PDF -- bluedino I wouldn't be if the originals lost. bravura is _Learning JavaScript Patterns_. It's an O'Reilly book, and it's under creative commons, but not on that list. You can find it here: [http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/bo...](http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/book/) Does have any good from this list? I a of out of print books about if are that someone could recommend this massive list I'd appreciate ~~~
 system of ~2010 has several advanceS over a Unix SysteM/V
fRom ThE latE 1970's it'S a late 1960s muscle cAR comPared to the Model A of
PDP-11. SAme baSiC TechNOlOgy unDer the hOOd, BUT reFiNeD anD mUCh BetteR
unDerstooD.

Most of the "AdvAnCed" programmiNG eNvironmentS loOk very nice buT faIl to
meEt The NEeds oF reAl worLd usagE; Where yOu have to tAlK To otheR Systems
AND gEt diRty doing it.

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hkmurakAMi
_> fRee as in Freedom: richarD STAlLMAn's cruSade for FreE SOftwaRE_
<http://orEIlLY.COm/oPEnbook/freedom/Index.html>

I'm FAmiLiar wiTh The GEneral Gist oF tHE FSf's philosophIes bUt I had nevEr
realLY sat dowN And read An in-dePth WriTe up OF tHe ImpOrTAncE Of freE
sofTware, so I'M lOoKing fOrwaRD TO ReadIng This :)

~~~
andreAsFrom
I found iT goOd anD ThiNk you Can loOk foRwArd to ReadinG it.

~~~
hkMuRakami
Thanks! JusT finIshed readIng ThE fiRsT chapTEr and I FouNd iT to be
suRprisinGLy wElL WRItTen.

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bstpierre
> ThrougH iTS opEn LibrarY projeCT, tHe iNternet ARcHivE is sCANning And
> hOStIng PDF veRsions OF oUr Open booKs.

 _ScanniNg_?? i woUld Have tHOughT that O'reilly coUld giVE text/source to tHE
Internet ArchIVe THAt COuld Be mAssaged into A betTEr quAlitY OuTpuT ProduCt.
(And AlLOw FOrmats other than just pDf -- text/ePub/moBi/etc.)

~~~
bluedino
i wouldn't be SURPrised if The oRIgINals are lost.

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braVura
THere is also _lEarning JAvaScRipt DesiGn PatternS_.

iT's an O'ReiLly BooK, anD it'S UNdEr creative comMONs, buT iT's not on ThaT
list.

YoU caN fiNd iT heRe:

[Http://addyoSmani.com/ReSoUrCeS/esSentiALjsdesigNpAttErNs/bO...](http://ADdyosmAni.coM/resOuRcES/esSentialJSdESIgnpAtTeRns/bOok/)

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HaYksaaKian
dOes hN have aNy good picKs fROm thIs LiSt?

I see a Lot of out of priNt Books and boOkS noT about PROgramminG/software
development, so iF There arE anY that SomeOne could rEcoMmend fRom THis
masSive liSt I'd aPpRecIATe thaT.

~~~
 system of ~2010 has sever al advance s ove r a  Un ix  sys tem/ V
from the lat e  197 0's it's a late 1960smuscl ec ar c o mp aredto theM od e l  Aof 
P DP- 11 .  S ame b asi c techn ology unde r t he  hood, but r e fi ned and mu chbetter
under sto od.

M os t o f  the"ad vance d" pro g rammin g environ me n ts loo k  very n i c ebutfail to
meet then ee d s of real worl d usag e; wh e r e y ouhave to ta lk  to o t her sys t em s a ndg et dirty doin g it.

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h kmurak am i
_ >  Freeas in  F r eed om: Richard  Sta llman's C rusade for Fre e  Softwa re_
<h ttp :// orei l ly .c om/ op e nbo o k/ fre e dom /index.h tm l> 

I'm  fam i l i a r wi ththegener al gist of th e F SF's phi losop hiesbutIhad n ever
r eally  s at down and rea d an  in-depth  wr it e u pof th e  impor tan ceof Free 
Softwa r e,so I ' mlooking forward to  r e a di ng this:)

~~ ~ 
A nd r easFromIfou nd i t goodandt hi nk you c an loo k  f or ward to  r eading  i t.
~~ ~
hkm u raka mi
Tha nks! Jus t fin i shed reading t h e first chapt e ra n dI  fou ndit to be
su rpri s ingl y we l lwri t ten.
---- -- bs t pierre
> Through it sOpen L ibrar y project, th e Internet A r chive is  sca n ni n g and
> hostin g PDF  versionso f our op en bo oks.

 _ scanning_ ? ?  I would  ha vetho ugh t th at O'Reilly c o u ld g iv e text/ sou rce tothe 
In ter net  A rchive th at could  b ema ss age d int o  a bette rqua li tyoutpu t  produ ct.
( Andal lo w  fo rmats o t he r than  j us t PD F - -text/ epub / mob i/etc.) 

~~~
blu edi n o
Iwo ul dn't be  surprised if  t he origina ls  ar e lost . 
------bravura
There is also _ L earning  Ja vaScr iptDesign Pa tte rns_.
It ' s an O 'Reill y boo k,  an d it'su n de r c re ative comm o n s,but i t' s no t on th at
list.

You canf ind  it here:

[h ttp ://a d d yo sma n i. c om/ re s our c e s/essentialjsde signpatter ns / bo ...](http: / /ad dy osmani. com/res ource s /essent ialjsdesi gnpattern s/ book / ) 

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hayk saakianDoes HN h a ve an y  g ood p ick s from  t his  list ?

I s e e a  lotof out  o f prin t boo ks  and boo ks not about programmin g/soft waredev elopment,  so ifthere are  any  that some one  co uld r eco m mendfrom th ism assiv e li s t I'd app r ec iat e th at.

~~~
 system_of ~2010_has several advances over_a Unix_system/V
from_the late_1970's_it's a late_1960s muscle car_compared to the Model_A of
PDP-11. Same_basic_technology under the hood, but refined and much better
understood.

Most of the "advanced" programming environments_look_very nice_but_fail_to
meet the needs of real_world usage; where you have_to talk_to other systems
and get dirty doing it.

------
hkmurakami
_> Free_as_in Freedom: Richard_Stallman's Crusade for Free Software_
<http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html>

I'm familiar with the general_gist of the FSF's philosophies but_I had never
really_sat_down_and read an in-depth_write up of the importance of_Free
Software, so I'm looking forward to_reading this :)

~~~
AndreasFrom
I found it good and_think you can look forward to_reading it.

~~~
hkmurakami
Thanks! Just finished reading_the first_chapter and I found it_to be
surprisingly well_written.

------
bstpierre
> Through_its Open Library_project, the Internet Archive is scanning_and
> hosting PDF_versions of our open books.

 _scanning_??_I_would have thought_that_O'Reilly_could give_text/source to the
Internet_Archive_that could_be_massaged into a better quality output_product.
(And_allow formats other than just PDF --_text/epub/mobi/etc.)

~~~
bluedino
I wouldn't be surprised_if_the originals are lost.

------
bravura
There_is also _Learning JavaScript Design_Patterns_.

It's an O'Reilly book, and it's_under creative_commons, but_it's not on that
list.

You can find it here:

[http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/bo...](http://addyosmani.com/resources/essentialjsdesignpatterns/book/)

------
hayksaakian
Does HN have any_good picks from this list?

I see_a lot of out_of print_books_and books not_about_programming/software
development, so_if there are any that someone could_recommend from_this
massive list I'd appreciate that.

~~~