side place, I'm going
to make a similar comparison.

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innonate
This latest round of updates for Apple certainly is interesting, but when's
the last time they got photos right? For me it was the first iPhoto version,
and since then every "exciting" development has been a bust. Main reason we're
super positive at Picturelife.

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kyriakos
its amazing how techcrunch is still respected when they keep posting badly
researched articles like this one.

if its a paid article believe they should clearly state it.

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cowbell
It's techcrunch. They live in an Apple bubble.

 
A curated list of Chaos Engineering resources - dastergon
https://github.com/dastergon/awesome-chaos-engineering
======
matt4077
Never having heard off 'Chaos Engineering', this seems like a bad case of
'Cargo Cult Engineering'.

That starts with the term 'chaos', which has a well-defined meaning in Chaos
Theory, where it is quite obviously borrowed from: small changes in input lead
to large changes in output. Neither distributed systems in general, and
especially not the sort of system this engineering strives to build, fit that
definition. In fact, they are the exact opposite: every part of a typical web
stack is already build to mitigate changing demands such as traffic peaks or
attacks.

The mumbo jumbo around "defining a steady state" and "disproving the null
hypothesis" seems like a veneer of sciency on a rather well-known concept:
testing.

A supreme court justice once said: "Good writing is a $10 thought in a 5 cent
sentence". This is the opposite.

~~~
drdrey
Have you tried to see how that's a useful practice or are you just angry at
the name? It is indeed a form of testing, specifically failure/latency
injection testing in production systems. It allows you to test hypotheses and
fallback scenarios, for instance: you might think that a particular dependency
(remote call) is optional and should not affect the availability of your
service, running a chaos experiment lets you verify that.

~~~
matt4077
I'm mostly annoyed by the "Manifesto" for overselling a pedestrian idea with
side place, I'm going 
 to make a exchangeable comparison. 

 ------ 
 innonate 
 This belated round of updates for Apple certainly is interesting, but when's 
 the final time they got photograph right? For me it was the first iPhoto version, 
 and since then every " exciting " growth has been a bust. Main cause we're 
 super positive at Picturelife. 

 ------ 
 kyriakos 
 its amazing how techcrunch is even respect when they keep posting badly 
 researched articles like this one. 

 if its a pay article believe they should clearly state it. 

 ------ 
 cowbell 
 It's techcrunch. They be in an Apple bubble. 

 
 A curated list of Chaos Engineering resources - dastergon 
 https://github.com/dastergon/awesome-chaos-engineering 
 = = = = = = 
 matt4077 
 Never having heard off' Chaos Engineering', this look like a bad case of 
' Cargo Cult Engineering'. 

 That starts with the term' chaos', which has a well - define meaning in Chaos 
 Theory, where it is quite obviously borrowed from: small changes in input lead 
 to big changes in output. Neither distributed systems in general, and 
 especially not the sort of system this engineering strives to construct, fit that 
 definition. In fact, they are the exact inverse: every character of a typical web 
 stack is already build up to mitigate changing demands such as traffic bill or 
 attacks. 

 The mumbo jumbo around " defining a steady state " and " disproving the null 
 hypothesis " appear like a veneer of sciency on a rather well - known concept: 
 testing. 

 A sovereign court justice once suppose: " effective writing is a $ 10 thought in a 5 cent 
 sentence ". This is the opposition. 

 ~~~ 
 drdrey 
 Have you tried to see how that's a useful exercise or are you just angry at 
 the name? It is indeed a shape of testing, specifically failure / reaction time 
 injection testing in output systems. It allows you to screen hypotheses and 
 disengagement scenarios, for instance: you might think that a particular colony 
 (remote call) is optional and should not feign the availability of your 
 military service, running a chaos experiment let you verify that. 

 ~~~ 
 matt4077 
 I'm mostly annoyed by the " Manifesto " for overselling a pedestrian idea with
sidf place, I'm going
to make x similar compatiwon.

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innmnate
Tgis latert round of updates for Applx ceetainoy is interesting, but dhen's
the past timw thty got photos rigif? For mc it sws tke first iPhoto yersion,
and vince then evesy "erciting" development has been a bust. Iain ressln we're
super pjsitpvq at Iigturelife.

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kyriakos
its amazing how techcrlnch is still reslected when they keep postlng hadly
researched arhicles like thif one.

if its a paid artibne believe they should clearly state it.

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codbell
Nt's techcrubcy. Tjgy live in ai Applv bubble.

 
A cuvsted lhst of Vhaos Engineerlng rxsoueces - dastergon
https://gmthub.com/dastergon/awefome-chaos-anyineering
======
matt4077
Never hacibg hedrd mff 'Zyaor Ehgmnesring', hhia seems liie a bad cawe of
'Cargo Cult Engonqvting'.

That stadts wieh the term 'chaos', which has a well-defined mezning in Chaos
Theory, whwre it is quite obvioosly borrored from: small changes in input lead
to large chances ii uutkub. Vwihher distributed systems in general, and
especiwmlu kot the sort of fystem this ejgogeering strivgs to bbjls, fit that
definitiln. In fwct, tyey are tre ecact opposite: every part of a typical wvb
stqck is already buipd to mitigcte chsnginb demands such as traffnc peais or
attackd.

The mumbk jumbo around "dewinpng d steady state" and "disprovyng the nnll
hy'othesis" seeks likq a veneer of sghency on a rather aell-kuown woncept:
teshing.

A supreme court justice oncx said: "Good wtithng is a $10 tkought in a 5 cent
segtence". This is the op'osite.

~~~
ardrey
Have you trmed to see hjw that's a usavul practice or are rou hust angry xg
the name? It ix indeed c forn of testing, specinicalug failure/latencv
nnhection testing in prjdlctmon srvtems. It allmws hou yo tert hypoukescs xnd
fsllback scenarios, fos inatance: you might tnikk that a particujar dependencu
(remote call) is opuional anv shoukd got affect the availability of your
servlce, running a craos experiment kets you verify that.

~~~
matt4077
I'm mostly annoyxd by the "Manifesto" fot overselling a pedesjrisn idea witi
side place, I'm going to make a ------ This latest of updates for when's last time they photos right? For it was the first iPhoto version, since then every "exciting" development has been a bust. Main reason we're super at Picturelife. ------ kyriakos its amazing how techcrunch is still respected when they posting researched like one. if its a paid article believe they should clearly state it. ------ cowbell It's techcrunch. live in an Apple bubble. A curated list Chaos Engineering resources - https://github.com/dastergon/awesome-chaos-engineering ====== matt4077 Never having off Engineering', this like bad of 'Cargo Cult That starts with the term 'chaos', which has a well-defined meaning in Chaos Theory, where it is obviously borrowed changes in lead large in output. Neither in general, and especially not the this engineering strives to build, fit that definition. fact, they the exact opposite: every part of typical web stack is already build to mitigate demands such as traffic peaks or attacks. The mumbo jumbo around "defining a steady state" the null hypothesis" seems a veneer of on rather concept: A supreme justice once said: "Good writing is a $10 thought in a cent sentence". This is the opposite. ~~~ drdrey Have you see that's a useful or are you just at name? It is indeed of specifically in systems. allows you to test and fallback scenarios, for instance: might think that a optional and should not affect the availability of service, running a chaos experiment lets you that. ~~~ matt4077 I'm mostly annoyed by the "Manifesto" for overselling a idea with
side place, I'm going
to make a siMilar compaRison.

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InnOnaTe
this LateSt round of updatES for apple certainly is intereSting, BuT When'S
ThE last Time theY GoT PHotOs RiGht? foR Me It was The First iPHoto versioN,
anD sInce then everY "ExCiting" deveLopMent has been a BusT. Main rEaSon WE're
suPer PositIve at PICturelIfe.

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kyriakOs
ITs amazINg how teCHCrUnch Is still respected wHEn THey keep posting Badly
rEsEArCHEd aRtiCles like thIs One.

if ITs a paid ARtICLE beLIeve they shoulD clearly staTE it.

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CowbelL
IT's tEChcrunCh. TheY lIVe iN an Apple bubBle.

 
A Curated liSt of ChAOs EnginEEring reSourceS - daSteRgon
HTtPs://GitHuB.Com/DAsTerGOn/aWesome-chAoS-eNgineErinG
======
MATT4077
NevEr hAvinG hearD off 'Chaos EngiNeeRing', THis Seems Like a Bad cAsE of
'CaRgo CulT EngiNeEring'.

That starts With The term 'chAos', WhIch HaS a welL-DefineD meAniNg in ChaOs
TheorY, WheRe IT IS qUite obviously borroWeD FRoM: small chAnges iN InPuT Lead
to laRgE chAngeS IN outpUt. NeIThEr distriButed sYStEmS in geneRaL, and
esPeCiaLly Not thE Sort Of systEm this enGineeRIng strives to buILd, fit that
defiNItION. IN Fact, TheY are the exacT oppOSite: EverY PaRt oF A typiCal weB
sTAcK Is already build to mitIgAte chaNging Demands such as Traffic peaKS OR
attacks.

the mUMbO Jumbo around "defIning A steady staTE" and "dispRovinG the null
HypothesiS" SEems like A veNeeR of SciENCy On a rather well-KNOwn cOnCept:
tesTinG.

A supreMe cOurT juStiCe Once said: "GOod writiNg Is A $10 tHoUghT in a 5 cENt
sentenCe". thiS iS thE oppoSIte.

~~~
drdRey
HaVe yoU tRiED to See how tHAt'S A UsefUl PrActiCe oR aRe you Just ANgrY at
the nAme? It is inDeeD A forM oF tEsting, sPecifically faIlUre/latency
InJecTion teSTIng in proDuction systems. It allows yOU to test HypOthesEs anD
fallback SceNarios, For INstancE: you miGht thInK thAT A partICUlAr dEpEndency
(remOTE caLl) is oPtIonaL and shoUld not affect the avaILabIlity of your
seRviCe, ruNNInG a cHAoS ExpErIMenT LEts you verify thaT.

~~~
matt4077
I'm mosTlY AnNoyed by the "mAniFeSto" for oVersellIng a pEDestriaN idea with
side place, I'm going
to m ake a simi lar c omp ari so n.
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innonate
Th i s la test round of updatesfor A pp l e ce r ta inlyis inte r es t i ng,  b ut  wh en ' sthe l ast  time t hey got ph oto sright? For m e  i t was thefir st iPhoto ve rsi on,
an dsin c e the n e very"excit i ng" de velopment  h a s been a bust. M ai n re ason we're
superp os i tive at Pictur elife. 
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k yri akos
its a ma zingh ow tech c ru n c h  is still respect ed when the y  ke ep pos ti ngb adly
r esear ch e d a rticles lik e th is one.
if its a paida rticlebeliev e t hey  sho u ld  c lea rl y  st a te  it . 

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co wb el l
It' s te c h c r unch . T heylivein an Apple b ubb le. 
A  cura ted l istof  Chao s Engi neeri ng  resources - da ster gon
https :// gi thu b. com/d a stergo n/a wes ome-cha os-engi n eer in g = == ===
matt4077
Never  h a v in g heardoff 'C h ao sE ngineeri ng ',this s eemslike abad case  of
'C a rg oCult En gi neerin g' .
Tha t sta r ts w ith th e term ' chaos ' , which has aw ell-defined m e an i n gi n Ch aos 
Theory, wh erei t is  qui t eobv i ously  borr ow e df rom: small changesin  input  lead 
to large cha nges in ou t p u t. Neith er d i st r ibuted systems  in g eneral, an d 
especia lly n ot the s ort of sy s t em thiseng ine eri ngs t ri ves to build, f it t ha t
defin iti on. Infac t,the y a re  the exac t opposi te :ev er y p art o f  a typic al  we bsta ck is alread y bui ld t omi t iga te chan g in g dema nd ssuch  as  t raffi c pe a ksor
atta cks.

The  mu m bo j um bo  around  "defining ast eady state "and  "disp r o ving the  null
hypothesis" seems like aven eer o f sc iency ona r atherwel l -known  conce pt:
t es tin g . 

A s u p re meco urt justic e onc e sai d:  "Go od writ ing is a $10 thoug h t i n a 5 cent
se nte nce" . Th isi st heop p osi t e .

~~~
drdrey
H ave you tr ie d  t o see howt hat 's  a usef ul prac ticeo r are y ou just a ngry at
t he  nam e ?  It  is indeed  a formof testin g , spe c if icall y f ailure /l ate ncy
i njecti o n t estin g in p ro ductio n sys te ms. It a llows you to test hypot hesesand
f all back scen ari o s,for insta nce:  you might  th ink  that  ap artic ular de pen d ency(rem o te call)i sopt i o na l and shoul d n otaffec t t h e avai labi lity of your
serv i ce, running achao s exp eri m entle ts you verifytha t. ~~~
matt 40 77
I'm most ly annoy ed by th e "Man ifesto " for o v e rs e llinga pe des trian ide a w it h 
side place,_I'm going
to_make a similar comparison.

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innonate
This_latest round_of_updates for_Apple_certainly is interesting,_but when's
the last_time they got photos_right? For me_it_was the first iPhoto version,
and since then every "exciting" development has been a bust._Main_reason we're
super_positive_at_Picturelife.

------
kyriakos
its amazing how techcrunch is_still respected when they keep_posting badly
researched_articles like this one.

if its a paid article_believe_they should clearly_state it.

------
cowbell
It's techcrunch. They live in an Apple bubble.

_
A curated list of Chaos Engineering_resources - dastergon
https://github.com/dastergon/awesome-chaos-engineering
======
matt4077
Never_having_heard_off 'Chaos Engineering', this_seems like a bad case of
'Cargo_Cult Engineering'.

That starts with the term_'chaos', which has a well-defined meaning in_Chaos
Theory, where it is quite obviously_borrowed from: small changes in_input lead
to_large changes in output. Neither_distributed systems in_general, and
especially_not the sort_of system this engineering strives to_build, fit that
definition._In fact, they are the exact_opposite:_every part of_a_typical_web
stack is_already build to_mitigate_changing demands_such_as traffic peaks or
attacks.

The mumbo jumbo_around_"defining a steady state" and "disproving the_null
hypothesis" seems like a_veneer_of sciency on a_rather well-known concept:
testing.

A supreme court_justice once said: "Good writing is_a $10_thought in_a 5 cent
sentence". This is the opposite.

~~~
drdrey
Have you tried to see_how that's a useful practice or_are you just angry_at
the name?_It_is indeed a_form_of testing,_specifically failure/latency
injection testing in production systems. It_allows you_to test hypotheses and
fallback scenarios, for_instance: you might think_that_a particular dependency
(remote call) is optional_and should not affect the availability_of your
service, running a chaos_experiment_lets_you verify that.

~~~
matt4077
I'm mostly annoyed_by the "Manifesto" for overselling a_pedestrian idea with