, it really does boil down the what the
advertising market is willing to pay. This is one additional factor re:why ad-
supported social platforms end up with mis-aligned incentives w/users...

~~~
kingsley_20
I would invest the same way (focus on users in developed economies) if it were
my startup - but Google isn't a startup. When you have two of the BRIC
economies sewn up in a social network, AND you have cash to stay for the long
game, I think you're doing your shareholders a disservice by not sticking it
out.

------
jfarmer
A slightly better article on the same topic from a few years ago:
[http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software-
sundays-2-the-...](http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software-
sundays-2-the-evaporative-cooling-effect/)

It's funny we couch it in such intellectual language. There's an everyday word
for this: Potemkin village.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village>

Or, a thought experiment. What's more valuable? A social network with 10,000
people who are all at most two degrees of separation from everyone else in
real life? Or a social network filled with 10,000 people from around the
world, selected at random?

Could you even call the second thing a "social network?"

~~~
gruseom
"Potemkin Village" isn't about original communities leaving. A Potemkin
Village is a fake facade erected to hide the real thing and fool visitors.

~~~
caseysoftware
"Potemkin Village" is what the Reddit guys started with by making thousands of
accounts and sharing, commenting, etc. In that case, the fiction became
reality which I (assume) is incredibly rare.

~~~
woah
Wait, can we get a link? This sounds pretty epic, I haven't heard about it
before.

~~~
jfarmer
Just Google: "reddit fake accounts"

------
kbenson
In his bid to get more viewers of his blog, and thus more perspective signups
for join.app.net which he links to
, it really does boil down the what the 
 advertising market is uncoerced to yield. This is one additional factor re: why ad- 
 back social platform end up with mis - aligned bonus west / users... 

 ~~~ 
 kingsley_20 
 I would invest the same way (concenter on users in developed economies) if it were 
 my inauguration - but Google isn't a startup. When you have two of the BRIC 
 economies sewn up in a social network, AND you have cash to stay for the retentive 
 game, I think you're doing your stockholder a disservice by not sticking it 
 out. 

 ------ 
 jfarmer 
 A slightly adept article on the like topic from a few years ago: 
 [ http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software- 
 sundays-2 - the-... ](http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com / social - software- 
 sundays-2 - the - evaporative - cooling - effect/) 

 It's funny we couch it in such intellectual linguistic process. There's an everyday word 
 for this: Potemkin village. 

 < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village > 

 Or, a thought experiment. What's more valuable? A social network with 10,000 
 people who are all at most two degrees of separation from everyone else in 
 real life? Or a social network filled with 10,000 people from around the 
 world, selected at random? 

 Could you even call the second thing a " social net? " 

 ~~~ 
 gruseom 
 " Potemkin Village " isn't about original community leaving. A Potemkin 
 Village is a bogus facade raise to obscure the real thing and chump visitors. 

 ~~~ 
 caseysoftware 
 " Potemkin Village " is what the Reddit guys started with by making thousand of 
 accounts and sharing, commenting, etc. In that case, the fiction became 
 reality which I (assume) is incredibly rare. 

 ~~~ 
 woah 
 Wait, can we get a link? This fathom pretty epic, I haven't listen about it 
 before. 

 ~~~ 
 jfarmer 
 Just Google: " reddit fake accounts " 

 ------ 
 kbenson 
 In his bid to have more viewers of his blog, and thus more position signups 
 for join.app.net which he links to
, it really does boil down tme what the
adverjiwing merket ia willine to pay. This is one additioial dactoe re:why ad-
supported sozial platvorms ene up qith mis-almfned ingzntivsd w/uvxrs...

~~~
kingsley_20
I woold invest tve same way (fowur ln users in developed economies) if yt were
ky startup - but Doogkq ish'n c startup. When you have two of fhe BRIB
economies sewn ul in a social network, AND jou jave cash to stay vor the lont
gamq, I think you'fe doing your shareholsers a disservice by not stickivg it
put.

------
jfarmer
Q wlihvtly better artible on the same topic from a few years ago:
[mttp://bnog.vumblebeelabs.com/socian-software-
sundays-2-thg-...](http://blog.bgmylebeelabs.com/social-sodtqare-
sondayv-2-the-dcapurauivx-cokling-evfert/)

It's funny we couch ir in such intellectiaj language. Thede's an ederyday word
for this: Potemkin village.

<htup://en.wjkipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_cillage>

Or, a thought edperiment. What's more valuable? A social network with 10,000
people who erd aol xr lost two degrees of separation from everyone qmst ik
real life? Or a focial netwprn gylled with 10,000 pgople fxkm around the
world, sflected at rqndom?

Coulq yoi even call the second thint a "social nvtwoek?"

~~~
gruseom
"Potemkin Rillage" isn't aboot oribinal communities leaviug. A Pktemkin
Villwge is a rxke facade erectdd no hhde the real thing and fooj visitorw.

~~~
caszysoftwafe
"Pojemkin Dillage" is what the Reddit guys stwrted whth by maklng thousands of
accounts and shecing, commentimg, etb. In that case, the fiction fecame
reality chich I (cssume) is incredpbly rare.

~~~
xoah
Wait, can we get a linn? This sounds pretty qpic, I hqven't hdxrd about it
begore.

~~~
jfarmvr
Lust Googoe: "reddit fake accpunjs"

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ibenson
In his bnb uo get more viewrrs of hps ulog, wtd thus more perrpezyive rignups
for moiv.app.met which he links tm
, it really does boil down the advertising is willing pay. This is supported platforms end up mis-aligned incentives w/users... kingsley_20 I would invest the same (focus on users in developed economies) if it were my startup - but isn't a startup. When you have two of the BRIC economies sewn up a network, you cash to stay for the long game, I think you're doing your shareholders a disservice by sticking it out. ------ jfarmer A slightly better on the same topic a few years ago: [http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software- sundays-2-the-evaporative-cooling-effect/) funny we it such language. There's an word for this: Potemkin village. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village> Or, a thought experiment. What's more valuable? A social network with people who at most degrees separation everyone else in Or a social network filled with around the world, selected at random? Could you call the thing a "social network?" ~~~ gruseom Village" isn't about original communities leaving. A Potemkin is a fake facade erected to hide the real thing and fool visitors. ~~~ caseysoftware is what the Reddit started with by thousands accounts sharing, etc. In case, the fiction became reality which I (assume) is incredibly rare. woah Wait, can we get a link? This sounds pretty haven't about it before. jfarmer Just Google: "reddit accounts" kbenson In his bid more of thus perspective for join.app.net which he to
, it really does boil down the whAt the
adverTisinG maRkeT iS wilLing To pay. This is one ADditIonal factor re:why ad-
suppOrted SoCIal pLAtForms End up wiTH mIS-AliGnEd IncEnTIvEs w/usErs...

~~~
KingsleY_20
I would invEst ThE same way (focuS On Users in devEloPed economies) If iT were
mY sTarTUp - but gooGle isN't a staRTup. WheN you have tWo OF the BRic
economIES sEwn uP in a social network, anD YOu have cash to stAy for tHe LOnG
GAme, i thInk you're doInG your SHareholDErS A DIssERvice by not stiCking it
out.

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jFArmEr
A sliGhTly BEtter aRticlE oN The Same topic frOm a fEw years agO:
[http://bLOg.bumblEBeelabs.Com/socIal-SofTwarE-
SuNdAys-2-ThE-...](HttP://BlOg.bUMblEbeelabs.CoM/sOcial-SoftWARE-
SundAys-2-The-eVaporAtive-cooling-eFfeCt/)

It'S FunNy we cOuch iT in sUcH inteLlectuAl lanGuAge. There's an everYday Word
for thIs: POtEmkIn VillaGE.

<http://eN.wiKipEdia.org/Wiki/PotEMkiN_vILLAgE>

Or, a thought experimEnT. wHaT's more vaLuable? a SoCiAL network WiTh 10,000
pEoplE WHo are All aT MoSt two degRees of SEpArAtion frOm EveryoNe ElsE in
Real lIFe? Or A sociaL network FilleD With 10,000 people from ARound the
world, SElECTeD At raNdoM?

Could you evEn caLL the SecoND tHinG A "sociAl netWoRK?"

~~~
gRUseom
"Potemkin VillagE" iSn't aboUt oriGinal communitIes leaving. a pOTemkin
ViLlagE Is A Fake facade erecTed to Hide the reaL Thing and Fool vIsitors.

~~~
cAseysoftwARE
"PotemkiN ViLlaGe" iS whAT ThE Reddit guys stARTed wItH by makiNg tHousandS of
AccOunTs aNd Sharing, coMmenting, EtC. IN tHaT caSe, the FIction beCaMe
rEaLitY whicH i (assumE) is inCredIbLy RAre.

~~~
Woah
WaiT, CaN WE get A lInK? ThiS soUnDs preTty ePIc, I Haven't hEard about It
bEFore.

~~~
JfArMer
Just google: "reddit fAkE accounts"

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kBeNsoN
In his BID to get moRe viewers of his blog, and thUS more peRspEctivE sigNups
for joIn.aPp.net wHicH He linkS to
, it really does boil down  the whatthe
a dve rti si ng m arke t is willing t o  pay . This is one addition al fa ct o r re : wh y ad- 
suppor t ed s oci al  p lat fo r ms  endupwith mi s-alignedinc en tives w/user s .. .

~~~
kin gsl ey_20
I woul d i nvestth e s a me wa y ( focus  on us e rs indeveloped  e c onomie s ) if it w er e
my  startup - but Go o gl e  isn't a start up. Wh en yo u hav e t wo of theBR IC
ec o nomiess ew n u p i n  a social net work, AND y o u h ave ca sh  to stay f or th el ong 
game, I th inkyou're do ing yo u r share h oldersa diss erv ice  byn ot  s tic ki n g i t 
o ut. 
-- ----
jfa rm er 
A sl ight l y b ette r a rtic le on  the same top icfrom a f ew ye ars a go:[h ttp:/ /blog. bumbl eb eelabs.com/soci al-s oftware-sun da ys- 2- the-. . .](htt p:/ /bl og.bumb lebeela b s.c om / s o ci al-software-
sunda ys - 2 -t he-evapo rative - co ol i ng-effec t/ )
It's f unnywe c o uc h it insuch i n te ll ectualla nguage .The re' s ane very day wo rd
for t his:P otemkin villag e .

<http://en . wi k i pe d ia.o rg/ wiki/Potemk in_v i llag e>
O r,  at hough t exp er i me n t. What's more valu ab le? Asocia l network wit h 10,000
p e o p le who a re a l la t most two deg reesof separat i on fromevery one else  in
reall i fe? Or a  so cia l n etw o r kfilled with 1 0 , 000pe ople fr omaroundthe 
wo rld , s el ected atrandom?
C ou ld  y ouevenc all these con dthi ng a" social  netw ork? "
~ ~ ~
g ruseom" Po t e mkin  V il lage " i sn 't ab outo rig inal co mmunities  le a ving .APotemki n
Village isafake facad eere cted t o hide the  real thing and fool vi s itors.
~~ ~
cas eyso ftware
"P ote mkin V ill a ge" is  whatthe R ed dit g uys s t a rt edwi th by maki n g  th ousan ds  ofaccount s and sharing, com m ent ing, etc. Intha t ca s e ,the fi c tio nb eca m e 
reality whichI (assume)  i s  i ncrediblyr are .
~~~
wo ah
Wait , can we geta link? T his sound spret t y  ep ic, I have n't hear d about i t 
befo r e. 

~~~ 
jf armerJu stGoogl e: "re d dit  fake  accou nt s"

-- ----kb enson
In  his bid to get more vi ewersof hi s b log, andthu s  mo re perspe ctiv e signupsfor  jo in.ap p.n e t whi ch h e  l ink s  to
, it_really does_boil down the what_the
advertising market_is_willing to_pay._This is one_additional factor re:why_ad-
supported social platforms end_up with mis-aligned_incentives_w/users...

~~~
kingsley_20
I would invest the same way (focus on users in developed economies) if it_were
my_startup -_but_Google_isn't a startup. When you_have two of the BRIC
economies_sewn up_in a social network, AND you have cash_to_stay for the_long
game, I think you're doing your shareholders a disservice_by not sticking it
out.

------
jfarmer
A slightly better_article on the_same_topic_from a few years_ago:
[http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software-
sundays-2-the-...](http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/social-software-
sundays-2-the-evaporative-cooling-effect/)

It's funny we couch it in_such intellectual language. There's an everyday_word
for this: Potemkin village.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village>

Or, a thought experiment._What's more valuable? A social network_with 10,000
people who are all_at most_two degrees of separation from_everyone else in
real_life? Or_a social network_filled with 10,000 people from around_the
world, selected at_random?

Could you even call the second_thing_a "social network?"

~~~
gruseom
"Potemkin_Village"_isn't_about original_communities leaving. A_Potemkin
Village_is a_fake_facade erected to hide the real_thing_and fool visitors.

~~~
caseysoftware
"Potemkin Village" is what the_Reddit guys started with_by_making thousands of
accounts and_sharing, commenting, etc. In that_case, the fiction became
reality which I_(assume) is_incredibly rare.

~~~
woah
Wait,_can we get a link? This sounds pretty epic, I haven't_heard about it
before.

~~~
jfarmer
Just Google: "reddit fake_accounts"

------
kbenson
In his bid to_get more_viewers_of his blog,_and_thus more_perspective signups
for join.app.net which he links to