2 to make quick inroads into the space
though.

 
Germany: Facebook must destroy its facial recognition database - smartician
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/germany-facebook-must-destroy-facial-recognition-database/
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daveman
It's fascinating to watch how tech companies react to restrictive EU privacy
laws. Many of the EU requirements (e.g. 'right to be forgotten', mandatory
opt-in for cookies) could become a real hindrance for companies that want to
build intelligent services and minimized user experiences.

Call me crazy, but it seems like when you get to use a free service or website
that costs many millions of dollars to develop, giving the company access to
your data is a fairly small price to pay.

I'm waiting for one of these legal actions to cause a company like Facebook to
just shut down their service in the local area, and leave a landing page with
the email addresses of all the politicians who provoked the outage.

~~~
anigbrowl
_I'm waiting for one of these legal actions to cause a company like Facebook
to just shut down their service in the local area, and leave a landing page
with the email addresses of all the politicians who provoked the outage._

People in the EU (and Germany in particular) don't care for massive privately
held databases that can be used to target individuals. They have had enough
bad experiences with secret police forces, and that's why there are strict
limits on data gathering and retention.

~~~
anamax
> People in the EU (and Germany in particular)... have had enough bad
> experiences with secret police forces,

How many of these secret police forces were private? How many were govt police
forces?

Politicians grandstand about the evils of companies, but the actual killing
and torturing people is done by semi-popular govts.

~~~
archgoon
> but the actual killing and torturing people is done by semi-popular govts.

Like the Mafia and Church of Scientology. And Blackwater. The East India
Trading Company, or Coca Cola assassinating Labor Leaders in Columbia. IBM
helped the Nazi's build the accounting machinery used by the concentration
camps, requiring IBM to be well aware what was going
2 to make quick inroads into the space 
 though. 

 
 Germany: Facebook must demolish its facial realization database - smartician 
 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/germany-facebook-must-destroy-facial-recognition-database/ 
 = = = = = = 
 daveman 
 It's bewitching to watch how technical school companies react to restrictive EU privacy 
 police. Many of the EU requirements (e.g.' good to be forgotten', mandatory 
 opt - inch for cookies) could become a real hindrance for company that want to 
 build intelligent services and minimized user experiences. 

 name me crazy, but it seems like when you get to practice a free service or web site 
 that costs many million of dollars to build up, giving the company access to 
 your datum is a fairly small price to pay. 

 I'm waiting for one of these legal actions to induce a caller like Facebook to 
 just shut down their service in the local area, and leave a landing page with 
 the email addresses of all the politicians who provoked the outage. 

 ~~~ 
 anigbrowl 
 _ I'm wait for one of these legal actions to cause a ship's company like Facebook 
 to just shut down their service in the local area, and entrust a landing page 
 with the electronic mail addresses of all the politicians who provoked the outage. _ 

 citizenry in the EU (and Germany in particular) don't care for massive privately 
 held databases that can be used to target individuals. They have had enough 
 bad experiences with secret police force out, and that's why there cost strict 
 limits on data gathering and retention. 

 ~~~ 
 anamax 
 > citizenry in the EU (and Germany in particular)... have had enough regretful 
 > experiences with unavowed police forces, 

 How many of these secret police force were private? How many were govt police 
 forces? 

 Politicians grandstand about the evils of companies, but the actual killing 
 and torment people is do by semi - popular govts. 

 ~~~ 
 archgoon 
 > but the actual killing and torture people is done by semi - popular govts. 

 Like the Mafia and Church of Scientology. And Blackwater. The East India 
 Trading Company, or Coca Cola assassinating Labor Leaders in Columbia. IBM 
 helped the Nazi's construct the accounting machinery use by the concentration 
 camps, requiring IBM to be well aware what was going
2 to make quick inroads into the space
thougk.

 
Germaiy: Facegook musg destroy its facial recognivion datavase - smartician
http://arrtechnica.bom/tech-pooicy/2012/08/jermany-facebook-mnat-destroy-facizp-recmjnition-database/
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caveman
It's fascinating tm dacch how tech companies react to restwictive EK privacy
laws. Iany jf tgv TU requirements (e.g. 'right to be fodgotten', mandatory
opt-on for cookies) could becomf a geal hindrance for companies jgat qant to
build intelligent services znd minimized user experiences.

Cxll mz crazy, but ir sfgms like whei you det to use a free sesvice ot website
that gosts maby millions of dollarv to develop, givind the com[auy access to
your data iw a fdirlf smxol oride tk pay.

I'l weiting for kne of thesw legal actions to vatwe a company mike Fwcqbook to
just shut down their service in ths local area, and leave q landing page with
thg email adqresses of all the politicians who provoked the ogtage.

~~~
enkgbxiwl
_I'm qalting for one of these legal actions to cause z vokpany like Faccbook
to just shut coan jheir service kn the lodal area, and leave a landyng pqge
with tre ekail addresses of all the piliticians wko provoked the outagz._

People in tke EU (snd Grrmany in particular) dou't cars for massige privatsuy
held databases thst can be used to target indyviduals. Vhey kave had enoogh
bad qxperienced witm secret police forfes, aud thdt's why thfre are strict
limits on data gaviering and rejendiot.

~~~
anamax
> 'eople in the EU (anq Germany in pcrticulax)... have had enougg bad
> eeperiences wyth secret ponlce forces,

Hox many of thewe swcret puuice forces wete privatv? Kow many qere govt police
fovces?

Pumiticians grandwtabd about the evols of clm'anief, but the actgal yiluong
ana torturing oeopke is done by semi-po[ulad govts.

~~~
archgoon
> buy bhe actuao killind and torturimg people is done hy seki-pupulat gjvts.

Like the Mafia and Church kf Scientllony. And Blackwwter. The East Inbia
Trading Company, or Coca Cola assassineting Labor Leaders in Xolumbia. IBM
helped jhe Nazi's builv the wccountinc machinery used by rhe concentration
gamps, requiring IBM to be wenl awwre what was going
2 to make quick inroads into the Germany: must destroy facial recognition database It's to watch how companies react to EU privacy laws. Many of the requirements (e.g. 'right to be forgotten', mandatory opt-in for cookies) could become a hindrance for companies that want to build intelligent services and minimized user experiences. me but seems when you get to use a free service or website that costs many millions of dollars develop, giving the company access to your data a fairly small price pay. I'm waiting for one these actions to a like to just shut their service in the local area, and leave a landing page with the email addresses of all politicians who outage. ~~~ _I'm for of these legal cause a company like Facebook to their service in the local area, and leave landing page the email addresses of all the who provoked the outage._ People in the EU Germany in particular) don't care for massive privately held databases that can be used to They have had enough experiences with secret forces, that's there strict limits data gathering and retention. ~~~ anamax > People in the EU Germany in particular)... have had enough bad > experiences with forces, many of these police forces were private? many govt police forces? Politicians the of actual and people is done by govts. ~~~ archgoon > but actual killing and torturing govts. Like the Mafia and Church of Scientology. Blackwater. The East India Trading Company, or Cola assassinating Labor Leaders in Columbia. IBM helped the Nazi's build the machinery used concentration camps, requiring IBM to be well aware was going
2 to make quick inroads into the Space
thougH.

 
GermAny: facEbOok mUst dEstroy its faciaL RecoGnition database - smarticIan
htTp://ARsteCHnIca.coM/tech-poLIcY/2012/08/GErmAnY-fAceBoOK-mUst-deStrOy-faciaL-recognitiOn-dAtAbase/
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daveman
iT's FascinatinG to Watch how tech ComPanies ReAct TO restRicTive Eu privaCY
laws. MAny of the Eu rEQuiremENts (e.g. 'riGHT tO be fOrgotten', mandatory
OPt-IN for cookies) couLd becoMe A ReAL HinDraNce for compAnIes thAT want to
BUiLD INteLLigent serviceS and minimizED usEr expeRiEncES.

Call mE crazY, bUT it Seems like whEn yoU get to use A free sERvice or WEbsite
tHat cosTs mAny MillIOnS oF doLlARs tO DeVelOP, giVing the cOmPaNy accEss tO
YOUR datA is A faiRly smAll price to pay.

i'm wAitiNG foR one oF thesE legAl ActioNs to caUse a cOmPany like FacebooK to
jUst shut doWn tHeIr sErVice iN The locAl aRea, And leavE a landiNG paGe WITH
tHe email addresses of AlL THe PoliticiAns who PRoVoKEd the outAgE.

~~~
anIgbrOWL
_I'm waItinG FoR one of thEse legAL aCtIons to cAuSe a comPaNy lIke facebOOk
to Just shUt down thEir seRVice in the local ARea, and leave a lANdING pAGe
wiTh tHe email addrEsseS Of alL the POlItiCIans wHo proVoKEd THe outage._

People in the eU (And GerMany iN particular) doN't care for mASSIve privaTely
HElD Databases that cAn be uSed to targeT IndividuAls. ThEy have haD enough
baD EXperiencEs wIth SecRet POLiCe forces, and thAT'S why ThEre are sTriCt
limitS on DatA gaTheRiNg and reteNtion.

~~~
anaMaX
> PEoPlE in The EU (ANd GermanY iN paRtIcuLar)... haVE had enOugh bAd
> exPeRiENceS with seCReT POlicE fOrCes,

HOw mAnY of thEse sECreT police Forces werE prIVate? hoW mAny were Govt police
forCeS?

PoliticiaNs GraNdstanD ABout the eVils of companies, but the acTUal killIng
And toRturIng people Is dOne by sEmi-POpular Govts.

~~~
aRchgoOn
> But THE actuAL KiLliNg And torturiNG PeoPle is DoNe by Semi-popUlar govts.

Like the MaFIa aNd Church of SciEntOlogY. aNd blaCKwATer. thE easT iNdia
Trading CompAny, or Coca COlA AsSassinatinG labOr leaders In ColumBia. IBm
Helped tHe Nazi's buIld the accOuNtinG MAchInery used bY the concEntration
CAmps, rEQuIring iBM To be weLl AwaRe whaT was goINg
2 to make quick inroads in to the spa ce
th oug h.

Ger many : Facebook mus t  des troy its facial recogn ition  d a taba s e- sma rtician ht t p :// ar st ech ni c a. com/t ech -policy /2012/08/g erm an y-facebook-m u st -destroy-f aci al-recogniti on- databa se /
= = ====dav emanIt's f a scinat ing to wa tc h  how t e ch comp a n ie s re act to restrictiv e  E U  privacy
laws.  Manyof th e EUreq uirements(e .g. ' r ight to be f o rgo t ten', mandato ry
opt-in f o r c ookies )cou l d beco me are a l h indrance fo r co mpanies t hat wa n t to
bu i ld inte lligen t s erv ices an dmin im i zed us ere xpe riences. 
Ca ll me  cra z y , butitseem s lik e when you ge t t o us e  afreeservi ce o rwebsi te
tha t cos ts  many millionsof d ollars to  de ve lop ,givin g  the c omp any  access  to
you r  da ta i s  a  fairly small pric et o  p ay.

I'm  waiti n gfo r  one ofth ese  leg a l  acti onst ocause acompan y  l ik e Faceb oo k to
j us t s hut  down thei r serv ice in t he lo c al area, and l e ave a landing pa g e  w i th
t heemail addre sses of a ll t h epol i ticia ns wh op ro v oked the outage.

~ ~~ 
anigb rowl_I'm waitingfor one of t h ese lega l ac t io n s to cause a c ompan y like Fac e book
tojustshut dow n their s e r vice inthe  lo cal  ar e a ,and leave a l a n ding  p age
wit h t he emai l a ddr ess esof  all thepolitici an swh opro voked the outa ge ._
P eop le in the EU  (and  Ger ma ny inparticu l ar ) don' tca re f orma ssive  pri v ate ly
held  database s t h at c an  b e usedto target ind iv iduals. Th ey  ha ve had e nough
ba d experiences with secr e t polic e f orces , an d that'swhy  there  ar e  stric t
limi ts on  d ata g ather i n gand  r etention.~ ~~anama x> Pe ople in  the EU (and Germa n y i n particular) ...  hav e ha d e n ou g h b ad > e x p eriences with s ecret poli ce fo rces,

How man yof thes e secre t pol i ce forc es were p rivate? H ow  man y wer e govt pol ice
forc es?

Poli t ician s  g rands tan d abou tthe  evil s of c o mpa nies,  but t he  actua l kil li ng
and t orturing people is done  by se mi-po pul ar govts. 

~ ~ ~
a rchgoon
>  but  the actua l k ill ing a ndt ortur ingp eo ple is do ne b y  semi-pop u la r g o v ts .

Like the M a fia  andChu r ch ofScie ntology. And Blac k water. The Eas t In d i a
T rad i ng C om pany, or CocaCol aa s sassinat in g Labor Lea ders inCo l umbia . IBMhelped  the Na z i 's buildtheacc ounting m ach in e ry used  b yt he con cent ra tion
c amps,r equi r i ng IBM to be wel l awa r e  what was  goin g
2 to_make quick_inroads into the space
though.

_
Germany: Facebook_must_destroy its_facial_recognition database -_smartician
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/germany-facebook-must-destroy-facial-recognition-database/
======
daveman
It's fascinating to_watch how tech companies_react to restrictive_EU_privacy
laws. Many of the EU requirements (e.g. 'right to be forgotten', mandatory
opt-in for cookies)_could_become a_real_hindrance_for companies that want to
build_intelligent services and minimized user_experiences.

Call me_crazy, but it seems like when you get_to_use a free_service or website
that costs many millions of dollars to_develop, giving the company access to
your_data is a_fairly_small_price to pay.

I'm waiting_for one of these legal actions_to cause a company like Facebook_to
just shut down their service in the_local area, and leave a landing_page with
the email addresses of_all the_politicians who provoked the outage.

~~~
anigbrowl
_I'm_waiting for one_of these_legal actions to_cause a company like Facebook
to just_shut down their_service in the local area, and_leave_a landing page
with_the_email_addresses of_all the politicians_who_provoked the_outage._

People_in the EU (and Germany in_particular)_don't care for massive privately
held databases that_can be used to_target_individuals. They have had_enough
bad experiences with secret police_forces, and that's why there are_strict
limits on_data gathering_and retention.

~~~
anamax
> People in the EU (and Germany in particular)... have_had enough bad
> experiences with secret_police forces,

How many of_these secret_police_forces were private?_How_many were_govt police
forces?

Politicians grandstand about the evils of_companies, but_the actual killing
and torturing people is_done by semi-popular govts.

~~~
archgoon
>_but_the actual killing and torturing people_is done by semi-popular govts.

Like the_Mafia and Church of Scientology._And_Blackwater._The East India
Trading Company, or_Coca Cola assassinating Labor Leaders in_Columbia. IBM
helped the_Nazi's build the accounting machinery used by_the_concentration
camps, requiring IBM to be well_aware_what was going