ola E 4G (surnia) for which works has
started on the wiki but it is my main phone and I need to keep it working :(

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bodo-rab
Nice blog-post and nice project! Rock on!

~~~
ollieparanoid
Thanks! :)

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ac130kz
This is something really interesting and great. Unfortunately, even to get the
basic functionality (calls, audio) working, one has to spend a lot of time and
effort.

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opless
I am sure I’m missing the point, but surely getting the GSM/3/4G radio working
for a voice call would be the whole point here and there’s zero calls made yet
by postmarketOS, in over 600 days that’s a pretty bad state to be in. No? Is
this supposed to be a Linux phone or not?

 __confused __

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em3rgent0rdr
Getting radio working is not the sole point. The original motivation as was
presented to me in early announcements was to give smartphones a 10-year
lifecycle [1]. So more about getting extra life out of all these old phones
people have laying around rather than specifically getting them to work as
people's primary mobile device.

[1] [https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos-
proj...](https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos-project-aims-
give-smartphones-10-year-lifecycle.html)

~~~
opless
Hmm. I can't say I can see the utility of doing that.

But if they're enjoying themselves doing it, that's utility, in a way, all on
it's own - I guess.

~~~
em3rgent0rdr
The utility is that instead of throwing away your old phone every two years,
you can reconfigure it into become something else useful.

~~~
opless
Usually by the time two years are up, my phone is usually not holding much of
a charge and the mechanical bits are starting to fail.

I'm pretty sure iPhones are not alone in being designed to last around 18-30
months

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alrs
I've found that
ola E 4 G (surnia) for which works has 
 started on the wiki but it is my main phone and I necessitate to restrain it working :( 

 ------ 
 bodo - rab 
 Nice web log - post and dainty project! Rock on! 

 ~~~ 
 ollieparanoid 
 Thanks! :) 

 ------ 
 ac130kz 
 This is something truly interesting and great. Unfortunately, even to get the 
 basic functionality (call, audio) working, one has to spend a draw of time and 
 effort. 

 ------ 
 opless 
 I am certain I ’m missing the point, but surely getting the GSM/3/4 G radio working 
 for a articulation call would be the whole point here and there ’s zero call made yet 
 by postmarketOS, in over 600 days that ’s a pretty regretful state to be in. No? Is 
 this presuppose to be a Linux phone or not? 

  _ _ confused _ _ 

 ~~~ 
 em3rgent0rdr 
 Getting radio receiver working is not the sole point. The original motivation as was 
 presented to me in early announcements was to give smartphones a 10 - year 
 lifecycle [ 1 ]. therefore more about getting extra life out of all these old phones 
 people have laying around rather than specifically getting them to work as 
 citizenry's primary mobile device. 

 [ 1 ] [ https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos- 
 proj... ](https://liliputing.com/2017/08 / linux - free-base - postmarketos - project - aims- 
 give-smartphones-10-year-lifecycle.html) 

 ~~~ 
 opless 
 Hmm. I can't say I can see the utility of suffice that. 

 But if they're enjoying themselves doing it, that's utility, in a way, wholly on 
 it's own - I guess. 

 ~~~ 
 em3rgent0rdr 
 The utility is that instead of throwing away your old phone every two years, 
 you can reconfigure it into become something else useful. 

 ~~~ 
 opless 
 Usually by the time two years are up, my phone is normally not holding much of 
 a bang and the mechanical morsel are starting to fail. 

 I'm pretty sure iPhones are not alone in being design to last around 18 - 30 
 months 

 ------ 
 alrs 
 I've found that
ola E 4G (surnia) for which wovks has
started ou the wmki but it is mh main phone and I need to kxep ut woeking :(

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bodo-rab
Nice blog-oost and jice prohect! Eock on!

~~~
ollmsparanolb
Thanid! :)

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ac130nv
This is somethlng really hnteresting ang erzat. Unfortunately, even to get the
basyc funcyilnality (calls, wudip) woripnn, one has to spend a lot of time and
effmrt.

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opless
I am sure I’m missing the point, but surely getting thf GSM/3/4G radii wowjing
for a vokce call would be the shole point here and there’s zeru calks made yej
yt plvtmarketOS, mn oveg 600 days that’s a prettf bad syate to be in. Ko? Is
vhis supposed to be a Linnx phone or not?

 __confosed __

~~~
em3rgett0xdr
Getting radio workunt is tot dhe rile pojnv. Tge orihinel motivatikn as was
prwsented to me in eatlr announcementa was eo give smartphones a 10-year
lifecycle [1]. So mmre about getting extra lide out of all these opd phones
[eople have laying around rather than specificallf getvivg uhci ro work as
people's primary mobile device.

[1] [https://lijjpitpng.com/2017/08/linux-based-pjstmarketos-
lrlj...](njtps://liliputing.zom/2017/08/linbs-bzsed-postmarketos-prlject-aiis-
givw-smartphoges-10-yrar-lifecycle.html)

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opless
Hmm. I can't say I ban wee the utility of doing that.

Yut if they'te enjoying themselves boing jt, that's utllity, in z way, all on
it's odn - I guess.

~~~
em3rgent0rdr
The utilitr is that inscead of ghroeing aray your opd phone every two years,
jou ccn rewonfigure lt into become something else useful.

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opless
Ususlny ty the tnme twp years are u[, my phone is osually njt houding much of
a cherge and the mechanical bhjs are startiig to faij.

I'm pretry sure kPhones are noy alone iu beibg designed to lasb aroons 18-30
months

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alrs
I've foobd that
ola E 4G (surnia) for which works on wiki but is my main keep working :( ------ Nice blog-post and project! Rock on! ~~~ ollieparanoid Thanks! ------ ac130kz This is something really interesting and great. Unfortunately, even to get basic functionality (calls, audio) working, one has to spend a lot of time effort. opless am I’m missing the point, but surely getting the GSM/3/4G radio working for a voice call would the whole point here and there’s zero calls yet by postmarketOS, in 600 days that’s a pretty state be in. Is supposed be a Linux or not? __confused __ ~~~ em3rgent0rdr Getting radio working is not the sole point. The original motivation was presented in early was give a 10-year lifecycle more about getting extra life out old phones people have laying around rather than getting them work as people's primary mobile device. [https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos- proj...](https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos-project-aims- give-smartphones-10-year-lifecycle.html) ~~~ opless Hmm. I can't I can see the utility of doing that. But if they're enjoying themselves doing it, in a way, all it's own - guess. em3rgent0rdr utility that instead throwing away your old phone every two years, you can reconfigure into become something else useful. ~~~ opless Usually by the years up, my phone usually not holding much a and the mechanical bits to I'm are alone being designed to last 18-30 months ------ alrs I've that
ola E 4G (surnia) for which works hAs
started oN the wIki But It Is my Main Phone and I need tO Keep It working :(

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bodo-rab
Nice blOg-posT aND nicE PrOject! rock on!

~~~
oLLiEPAraNoId
thaNkS! :)

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Ac130Kz
ThiS is SomethiNg really inTerEsTing and great. uNfOrtunately, EveN to get the
basIc fUnctioNaLitY (Calls, AudIo) worKing, onE Has to sPend a lot oF tIMe and
eFFort.

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oplESS
I Am suRe I’m missing the poiNT, bUT surely getting The GSM/3/4g rADiO WOrkIng
For a voice cAlL woulD Be the whOLe POINt hERe and there’s zeRo calls made YEt
bY postmArKetos, in oveR 600 days ThAT’s a Pretty bad stAte tO be in. No? Is
This suPPosed to BE a Linux Phone oR noT?

 __coNfusED __

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eM3rGenT0rDR
GeTTiNg rADio Working iS nOt The soLe poINT. tHe orIgiNal mOtivaTion as was
presEntEd to ME in Early AnnouNcemEnTs was To give SmartPhOnes a 10-year
lifecyCle [1]. SO more abouT geTtIng ExTra liFE out of All TheSe old phOnes
peoPLe hAvE LAYiNg around rather than SpECIfIcally geTting tHEm To WOrk as
peoPlE's pRimaRY MobilE devICe.

[1] [Https://lilIputinG.CoM/2017/08/lInux-basEd-PostmaRkEtoS-
prOj...](httPS://lilIputinG.com/2017/08/linuX-baseD-Postmarketos-prOJect-aims-
give-sMArTPHoNEs-10-yeAr-lIfecycle.htmL)

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oplESs
HmM. I caN'T sAy I CAn see The utIlITy OF doing that.

But if they'Re EnjoyiNg theMselves doing iT, that's utilITY, In a way, alL on
iT'S oWN - I guess.

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em3rgent0Rdr
ThE utility is THat insteAd of tHrowing aWay your olD PHone everY twO yeArs,
You CAN rEconfigure it iNTO becOmE somethIng Else useFul.

~~~
OplEss
usuAlLy by the tiMe two yeaRs ArE uP, mY phOne is USually noT hOldInG muCh of
a CHarge aNd the MechAnIcAL biTs are stARtING to fAiL.

I'M preTty SuRe iPhOnes ARe nOt alone In being deSigNEd to LaSt Around 18-30
mOnths

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alrs
I've fOuNd that
ola E 4G (surnia) for whic h works ha s
sta rte d o nthewiki  but it is mym ainphone and I need to ke ep it  w o rkin g  : (

-- ----
bo d o- r a b
N ic eblo g- p os t and  ni ce proj ect! Rockon! 
~~~
olliepar a no id
Thanks!  :) 

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ac1 30k z
This  i s s o methi ngreall y inte r esting  and grea t. Unfort u nately, e ve n to  get the
basic fu n ct i onality (calls , audi o) wo r k ing , o ne has tosp end a lot oft im e a nde ffort.

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opless
Ia m s ure I’ mmis s ing th e poi nt ,  bu t surely ge ttin g the GSM /3/4Gr adio wo r king
fo r a vo ice  ca ll w o ul dbeth e  wh o le  po i nthere and  t he re’szero c a l ls m ade  yet 
by p ostmarketOS,inover 600  days  that ’s a  p retty  bad s tateto  be in. No? Isthis  supposed  to  b e a  L inuxp hone o r n ot? 

 __co nfused_ _
~~ ~ e m3 rgent0rdr
Gettingra d i oworkingis not th es ole poin t.  Th e or i g inalmoti v at ion as w as
pre s en te d to me  i n earl yann oun cemen t s wa s to g ive smar tphon e s a 10-year
li f ecycle [1]. S o  m o r ea bout  ge tting extra  lif e  out  ofa ll  th e se ol d pho ne s 
p e ople have laying ar ou nd rat her t han specifica lly gettin g t hem to w orka sp eople's primar y mob ile device . 

[1] [h ttps: //lilipu ting.com/ 2 0 17/08/li nux -ba sed -po s t ma rketos-
proj. . . ](ht tp s://lil ipu ting.co m/2 017 /08 /li nu x-based-p ostmarke to s- pr oj ect -aims - 
give-sm ar tph on es- 10-ye a r-life cycle .htm l) 
~ ~~oplessH mm . I ca n' tsayI c an  seetheu til ity ofdoing tha t.Butif  t hey'reenjoying them se lves doing  i t,that's u tility,in a way, all on
it's o w n - I g ues s.

~ ~~
e m3rgent0r drThe ut ili t y is t hat in stead  o f t h r owing a wa y y ou r old phon e eve ry tw oyear s,
youcan reconfigure it int o become some thi ng e l s euse f ul . 

~ ~~ opl e s s
Usually by th e time two  y e ar s are up,m y p ho ne is u suallynot h o lding m uch of
acharge an dthem e cha nical bits  are sta rting tof ail.I' m pre tty  sureiP hon es ar e nota lon e inbeingde signed  to l as t around  18-30
months

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a lrs
I' ve fo und  that
ola E_4G (surnia)_for which works has
started_on the_wiki_but it_is_my main phone_and I need_to keep it working_:(

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bodo-rab
Nice blog-post and_nice_project! Rock on!

~~~
ollieparanoid
Thanks! :)

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ac130kz
This is something really interesting and great. Unfortunately, even to get_the
basic_functionality (calls,_audio)_working,_one has to spend a_lot of time and
effort.

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opless
I am_sure I’m_missing the point, but surely getting the GSM/3/4G_radio_working
for a voice_call would be the whole point here and there’s_zero calls made yet
by postmarketOS, in_over 600 days_that’s_a_pretty bad state to_be in. No? Is
this supposed to_be a Linux phone or not?

___confused __

~~~
em3rgent0rdr
Getting radio working is not the_sole point. The original motivation as_was
presented to me in early_announcements was_to give smartphones a 10-year
lifecycle_[1]. So more_about getting_extra life out_of all these old phones
people have_laying around rather_than specifically getting them to work_as
people's_primary mobile device.

[1]_[https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos-
proj...](https://liliputing.com/2017/08/linux-based-postmarketos-project-aims-
give-smartphones-10-year-lifecycle.html)

~~~
opless
Hmm._I_can't say_I can see_the_utility of_doing_that.

But if they're enjoying themselves doing_it,_that's utility, in a way, all on
it's_own - I guess.

~~~
em3rgent0rdr
The_utility_is that instead of_throwing away your old phone_every two years,
you can reconfigure it_into become_something else_useful.

~~~
opless
Usually by the time two years are up, my phone is_usually not holding much of
a charge_and the mechanical bits_are starting_to_fail.

I'm pretty sure_iPhones_are not_alone in being designed to last around_18-30
months

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alrs
I've found_that