hope the voice and screen sharing works good.

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kunai
Lovely. This is really the first true smartphone OS since webOS that I'm
actually excited for. The gestures are a little worrisome, however, with a
4-inch display. I have small hands, and it seems the gestures would require
use of two hands...

Another thing I noticed -- it seems like the UI's colors and typefaces were
ripped straight from Android's Holo interface. No big deal, just something I
noticed.

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KeyBoardG
I was put off just in the new BBM, where some options were hidden under the
left swipe menu, other the right swipe menu and yet more under the top swipe
menu. Not to mention options hidden under the button bar at the bottom. I
don't want to spend my time looking all over in apps for an action. They need
to set strict guidelines on where things go.

~~~
purephase
I sat down with a handset a few months ago with a QA guy at BlackBerry and had
basically the same feedback for them. Apparently, it is something they're
working on. I haven't seen the OS since launch so I don't know if this was
addressed, at all.

They're hardly alone in this regard. iOS/Android suffers from the same
problem.

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rcb
Does anyone know if BB has the ability to push OS updates direct to customer
handsets? Years ago such updates required carrier "approval"/intervention,
which meant updates occurred infrequently (usually after significant delay),
if ever.

Edit: US carriers, specifically AT&T.

~~~
shawn-butler
Nope. [0] However, on unlocked phones you can load whatever image will work.

[0] [http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and-
software/desktop-a...](http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and-
software/desktop-and-device-download-sites.html)

~~~
Pwnguinz
Not sure about BB10, but with previous BB's, you could always load whatever
image will work. The "Network Carrier" branded version was unnecessary even if
you had a branded BB.

Somewhat like Android. You can
hope the voice and screen sharing works beneficial. 

 ------ 
 kunai 
 Lovely. This is in truth the first true smartphone OS since webOS that I'm 
 actually excited for. The gesture are a little worrisome, however, with a 
 4 - column inch display. I have small hands, and it look the gestures would require 
 manipulation of two hands... 

 Another thing I notice -- it seem like the UI's colors and typefaces were 
 ripped straight from Android's Holo interface. No big bargain, just something I 
 noticed. 

 ------ 
 KeyBoardG 
 I was put off barely in the new BBM, where some options were hidden under the 
 leave swipe menu, other the right swipe menu and yet more under the top swipe 
 menu. Not to mention options shroud under the button bar at the bottom. I 
 don't want to spend my time looking all over in apps for an action. They need 
 to set strict guidelines on where things go. 

 ~~~ 
 purephase 
 I sat down with a handset a few months ago with a QA guy at BlackBerry and have 
 basically the same feedback for them. Apparently, it is something they're 
 working on. I haven't see the OS since launch so I don't know if this was 
 address, at all. 

 They're hardly alone in this regard. iOS / Android suffers from the like 
 problem. 

 ------ 
 rcb 
 Does anyone know if BB has the ability to push OS updates direct to customer 
 handsets? Years ago such updates required carrier " approval"/intervention, 
 which mean updates happen infrequently (usually after significant delay), 
 if ever. 

 Edit: US carriers, specifically AT&T. 

 ~~~ 
 shawn - butler 
 Nope. [ 0 ] However, on unlocked earphone you can load whatever image will work. 

 [ 0 ] [ http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and- 
 software / desktop - a... ](http://us.blackberry.com / documentation / apps - and- 
 software / desktop - and - device - download - sites.html) 

 ~~~ 
 Pwnguinz 
 Not sure about BB10, but with previous BB's, you could always load whatever 
 trope will work. The " Network Carrier " stigmatize version was unnecessary even if 
 you had a brand BB. 

 Somewhat like Android. You can
hopf the voice and screen smaring works goob.

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junai
Lmvely. Fhis is feally the first true smartpione OS sunce webOS that I'm
actuxlly excined for. Tye gtstures are a litvme worrlfome, mowevzr, with a
4-inch dixplay. I haee small hands, avd it seems the gestures would requirq
use of tao hands...

Anothet thimd I hoticed -- it seems like the UI's colkrs and typefaces wete
ripped straight from Andgoid'd Holo interface. Nl big deal, hust womething I
nuticed.

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KeyBoardG
I was pot off just in the new BBM, where some options wgxw hlgden under vhe
lefn swipe menu, other tha right swipe menu anc yxt mire under the top swi'e
menu. Not to mentiog options hndden under the buttob var aj the botgim. K
doh't wznt to spxnd my time looking alo over in apps for sn qction. They nsed
to fee strict guidelines on where things go.

~~~
plrepgase
I sat down with a hqndset a few months aho with a QA guy at BlackBerry and had
basically the same faedbark fox them. Qpoarently, it is something they're
working on. I hwbem't seen the OS slnce launch so I dpn'h lgow if this wxs
addrzassd, at all.

They're hagdly aljne ib this redard. iOS/Android suffers from thw same
problei.

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ecb
Does anyone knoc if BB has che abolity to push OS updates dirzct to customer
hajdsets? Yezfs ago such updages raquired carrier "approval"/ineerventioi,
whick meant jpdajes occtrred infrfquenbny (usually after slgnifncant delay),
if eger.

Edit: US carriers, specificallb AT&T.

~~~
shawn-butkes
Noie. [0] Howevzr, on mnlocked phones you can load chatever imagd will wori.

[0] [http://uv.blackberry.som/support/appv-wnd-
software/dxsktop-a...](htep://us.vlacjberry.cuo/support/apps-anc-
software/btsktop-and-dwvice-download-sites.mtml)

~~~
Pdhguinz
Not sure cyoor BB10, but with lrexiots BU's, yot could alwayv loxd dnatevdr
image wilo worl. The "Network Carries" brznded version was inkecessary even if
rou had a bramded BB.

Somewhat line Anvroid. Bou cam
hope the voice and screen sharing works kunai This is the first true I'm excited for. The are a little however, with a 4-inch display. I small hands, and it seems the gestures would require use of two hands... thing I noticed -- it seems like the UI's colors and typefaces were straight Android's interface. big deal, just something I noticed. ------ KeyBoardG I was put off just in the new where some options were hidden under the left menu, other the right menu and yet more under top menu. Not mention hidden the button bar the bottom. I don't want to spend my time looking all over in apps for an action. need to guidelines on things ~~~ I sat down handset a few months ago with at BlackBerry and had basically the same feedback them. Apparently, is something they're working on. I seen the OS since launch so I don't if this was addressed, at all. They're hardly alone in this regard. iOS/Android suffers from problem. ------ rcb Does know if BB the to OS direct to handsets? Years ago such updates required carrier "approval"/intervention, which meant updates infrequently (usually after significant delay), if ever. Edit: US carriers, ~~~ Nope. [0] However, unlocked phones you can whatever will work. [0] [http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and- ~~~ Not but previous you could always load image will work. The "Network branded version was unnecessary branded BB. Somewhat like Android. You can
hope the voice and screen sharIng works goOd.

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kunAi
LOveLy. this Is reAlly the first trUE smaRtphone OS since webOS thaT I'm
acTuALly eXCiTed foR. The gesTUrES Are A lItTle WoRRiSome, hOweVer, with A
4-inch displAy. I HaVe small hands, ANd It seems the GesTures would reQuiRe
use oF tWo hANds...

AnOthEr thiNg I notICed -- it sEems like tHe ui's coloRS and typEFAcEs weRe
ripped straight fROm aNdroid's Holo intErface. no BIg DEAl, jUst Something I
NoTiced.

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kEyBoardg
i wAS PUt oFF just in the new bBM, where somE OptIons weRe HidDEn undeR the
lEfT SwiPe menu, other The rIght swipe Menu anD Yet more UNder the Top swiPe
mEnu. not tO MeNtIon OpTIonS HiDdeN UndEr the butToN bAr at tHe boTTOM. i
don'T waNt to Spend My time looking All Over IN apPs for An actIon. THeY need
To set sTrict GuIdelines on where ThinGs go.

~~~
purepHasE
I Sat DoWn witH A handsEt a Few Months aGo with a qa guY aT bLAcKBerry and had
basicaLlY THe Same feedBack foR ThEm. aPparentlY, iT is SomeTHIng thEy're
WOrKing on. I hAven't sEEn ThE OS sincE lAunch sO I Don'T knOw if tHIs waS
addreSsed, at alL.

They'RE hardly alone in THis regard. iOS/ANDrOID sUFferS frOm the same
prObleM.

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Rcb
DOes aNYoNe kNOw if Bb has tHe ABiLIty to push OS updates dIrEct to cUstomEr
handsets? YeaRs ago such uPDATes requiRed cARrIEr "approval"/inteRventIon,
which meANt updateS occuRred infrEquently (uSUAlly afteR siGniFicAnt DELaY),
if ever.

Edit: US CARrieRs, SpecifiCalLy AT&T.

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shAwn-ButLer
nopE. [0] HOwever, on uNlocked pHoNeS yOu Can Load wHAtever imAgE wiLl WorK.

[0] [http://US.blackBerry.Com/sUpPoRT/apPs-and-
soFTwARE/desKtOp-A...](httP://us.BlAckbeRry.cOM/suPport/apPs-and-
softWarE/DeskToP-aNd-devicE-download-siteS.hTml)

~~~
PwnguinZ
NOt sUre aboUT bB10, but witH previous BB's, you could alwAYs load wHatEver
iMage Will work. THe "NEtwork carRIer" braNded veRsion WaS unNECessaRY EvEn iF
yOu had a branDED BB.

somewHaT likE AndroiD. You can
hope the voice and screensharing wo rks g ood .
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kun ai
Lovely. Thi s  isreally the first truesmart ph o ne O S  s incewebOS t h at I 'mac tu all ye xc itedfor . The g estures ar e a  l ittle worris o me , however,  wi th a
4-inchdis play.Ihav e  smal l h ands,  and i t  seems  the gest ur e s woul d  requir e us e of  two hands...

An o th e r thing I noti ced --  i t  s e e mslik e the UI's  c olors and typ e fa c e s  we r e
ripped stra ight from A n dro id's H ol o i n terfac e. No  b i g d eal, just s omet hing I
no ticed. 
------ KeyBoar dG
I w asput  off ju st  in  t h e n e wBBM ,  wh ere some  o pt ionswere h i d denund er t he
le ft swipe menu , o ther the  righ t swi pe m en u and  yet m ore u nd er the top swip e
me nu. Not t o m en tio noptio n s hidd enund er thebuttonb arat t h ebottom. I
don't wa nt t ospend my  timel oo ki n g all ov er  in  app s for a n ac t io n. Theyneed
t o  s et  strict  g uideli ne s o n w heret hing s go.
~~~
pur ephas e 
I sat down wi t h a handset a fe w mo n thsago  with a QAguya t Bl ackB e rr y a n d had 
basi ca l ly the same feedback f or  them.  Appa rently, it is  something t h ey're
wo rkin g  o n . I haven't se en th e OS since launch s o I d on't kno w if this w as
addre sse d,atall . 
T hey're hardly a lone  i n thisreg ard. iO S/A ndr oid  su ff ers fromthe same 
p ro bl em .
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rcb
Doe sany on e k now i f  BB ha s the  abi li ty topush OS up d a tesdi re ct t o c us tomer 
han d set s? Year s ago suc h u p date sre quiredcarrier "appr ov al"/interv en tio n,
whi c h  meant u pdates occurred infrequ e ntly (u sua lly a fter  signific ant  delay ),i f ever .

Edi t: US  c arr i e rs, s p e ci fic al ly AT&T.
~ ~ ~
s hawn- bu tler 
Nope.[0] However, on un l ock ed phones you  ca n lo a d  w hat e ve r  im ag e  wi l l  work.

[0] [ht tp://us.bl ac k be rry.com/su p por t/ apps-an d-
soft ware/ d esktop- a...](htt p://us.bl ac kber r y .co m/support/ apps-and -
softwar e /desk t op -and- dev ice-do wn loa d-sit es.htm l )
~~~
P wnguin zNot su re ab ou t BB10,but with previous BB's,  you c ouldalw ays loadwha t eve r
image w illwork. The"Ne two rk Ca rri e r" br ande d  v ers i on wa s un n ecessarye ve n i f yo u had a bra n d e d B B.

S ome w hat li ke A ndroid. You can
hope the_voice and_screen sharing works good.

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kunai
Lovely._This is_really_the first_true_smartphone OS since_webOS that I'm
actually_excited for. The gestures_are a little_worrisome,_however, with a
4-inch display. I have small hands, and it seems the gestures would_require
use_of two_hands...

Another_thing_I noticed -- it seems_like the UI's colors and_typefaces were
ripped_straight from Android's Holo interface. No big deal,_just_something I
noticed.

------
KeyBoardG
I was_put off just in the new BBM, where some_options were hidden under the
left swipe_menu, other the_right_swipe_menu and yet more_under the top swipe
menu. Not to_mention options hidden under the button_bar at the bottom. I
don't want to_spend my time looking all over_in apps for an action._They need
to_set strict guidelines on where_things go.

~~~
purephase
I sat_down with_a handset a_few months ago with a QA_guy at BlackBerry_and had
basically the same feedback for_them._Apparently, it is_something_they're
working_on. I_haven't seen the_OS_since launch_so_I don't know if this was
addressed,_at_all.

They're hardly alone in this regard. iOS/Android_suffers from the same
problem.

------
rcb
Does_anyone_know if BB has_the ability to push OS_updates direct to customer
handsets? Years ago_such updates_required carrier_"approval"/intervention,
which meant updates occurred infrequently (usually after significant delay),
if ever.

Edit: US_carriers, specifically AT&T.

~~~
shawn-butler
Nope. [0] However, on_unlocked phones you can_load whatever_image_will work.

[0] [http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and-
software/desktop-a...](http://us.blackberry.com/support/apps-and-
software/desktop-and-device-download-sites.html)

~~~
Pwnguinz
Not_sure_about BB10,_but with previous BB's, you could always_load whatever
image_will work. The "Network Carrier" branded_version was unnecessary even_if
you_had a branded BB.

Somewhat like Android._You can