 X client"; "Linux support"; suitably vague nouns). Searching
helps me resolve these words, to some degree; but I still don't know what this
thing is (that is not a quotidian HN topic).

I'm sure Lisp implementation articles are similarly opaque to non-initiates.
But, um, a little help, please? :)

~~~
johnswamps
Steam is sort of like an app-store for games which only ran on Windows for a
long time. You buy games on Steam and can then download the games on any
computer you install Steam on. There's a bunch of other stuff such as being
able to talk to your friends, multiplayer, and keeping track of achievements.
Valve (the creators of Steam) are porting it to Mac and Linux. This is not,
however, sufficient to play all games on Steam, since games from many
companies are on Steam and not all of them are interested in making their
games cross-platform. So, in addition, Valve is porting their Source engine,
which powers games such as Counter Strike, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, and
Portal to Mac and Linux so that those players will able to play them. They
will of course be able to play any other games on Steam that are class-
platform.

------
sirn
Phoronix's source seems to be from the Telegraph.co.uk's article[1]. While I
don't doubt Valve will release Steam for Linux, I'd wait for the slightly more
official statement before declaring it's official.

    
    
      [1]: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html

~~~
yangman
What's more, the second source cited is basically a copy-n-paste of the
Telegraph article.

Phoronix can pretend to be a reliable primary source all it wants, but it's
questionable stuff like this that makes its reporting a complete joke amongst
the X and DRI/Mesa development community.

~~~
_delirium
I've had a similar impression. There's more than one time I've read a Phoronix
article and thought: "Finally, an article on this subject! Only, this one
isn
X client "; " Linux support "; suitably vague noun). Searching 
 help me resolve these words, to some degree; but I even don't know what this 
 thing is (that is not a everyday HN topic). 

 I'm sure Lisp implementation article are similarly opaque to non - initiates. 
 But, um, a little avail, please? :) 

 ~~~ 
 johnswamps 
 Steam is sort of like an app - store for games which entirely run on Windows for a 
 long time. You buy game on Steam and can then download the games on any 
 computer you install Steam on. There's a bunch of early stuff such as being 
 able to talk to your friend, multiplayer, and keeping path of achievements. 
 Valve (the creators of Steam) are porting it to Mac and Linux. This is not, 
 however, sufficient to play all games on Steam, since game from many 
 companies are on Steam and not all of them are interested in making their 
 games cross - chopine. thus, in addition, Valve is porting their Source engine, 
 which powers games such as Counter Strike, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, and 
 Portal to Mac and Linux so that those players will able to play them. They 
 will of path be able to play any other plot on Steam that are class- 
 chopine. 

 ------ 
 sirn 
 Phoronix's generator seems to be from the Telegraph.co.uk's article[1 ]. While I 
 don't doubt Valve will release Steam for Linux, I'd wait for the slightly more 
 official statement before declaring it's official. 

    
    
       [ 1 ]: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html 

 ~~~ 
 yangman 
 What's more, the second source summon is basically a copy - n - paste of the 
 Telegraph article. 

 Phoronix can pretend to be a reliable primary source all it want, but it's 
 questionable stuff like this that makes its reporting a complete joke amongst 
 the X and DRI / Mesa development residential district. 

 ~~~ 
 _ craze 
 I've have a similar impression. There's more than one time I've understand a Phoronix 
 article and thought: " Finally, an article on this subject! merely, this one 
 isn
 X flient"; "Linux support"; suiuably vague nouns). Searchmng
helpa me resulve these words, to some degcee; vut I still don't know what ghis
thing is (that is iot a quotidian IH topic).

L'i sudc Lis' mmplementation srticles ase similarly o[aduz to non-initiates.
But, um, a little hel[, pleasr? :)

~~~
uohnswamps
Steai is fort of like an app-store for games whidh only ran on Windoes for a
long time. You buy hamed on Steam and can then downliad eye games on xny
computeg you instaml Steam on. There's a bunch of ogher xtuff such aw bfhng
able to valk tj your friends, multi[layer, snd keeping trsck of achievements.
Valve (thx creators of Steam) wre portitg it to Mac and Libuz. Thiv is not,
fiwexer, snffjcient to play all fames on Stwam, since games frok iqny
companies zre on Seeam and not all of them are interested in making their
games crosw-platform. So, in additlon, Valve is porting their Source engine,
which powers games such xs Eiuntef Shrike, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, and
Portal to Izc akd Linux so that those playrrd eyll able to puay thzj. Fhey
will of course be ablg to poay any ouher bames on Steam that are claws-
platform.

------
sign
Phironix's source seels to be frum tne Tekegraph.co.uk's article[1]. Whnle I
dkn't doubt Vwlve will felease Steam fof Lpnux, I'd wait for the slightly iore
officmal scatement befpre deslaring it'd offlwial.

    
    
      [1]: http://cww.tenegraph.co.un/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html

~~~
yangmam
Wvat'v more, tke secpnd source cieed is basicalky a co'y-n-pasge of the
Tvlegraph erticle.

Phorogix can pretetf to be a reniable pwimaey siurce auu it wants, but it's
questpouable studf like this that kakgs its reporting c xomplete joke akonest
ehv X agg DRI/Mesa deeeloomevy comounity.

~~~
_dtjiviuo
I've had a similar imprevsioh. There's more than oke time I'ce read w Phoronix
artocle and thought: "Flnallb, an acticle on this subject! Only, this one
isn
X client"; "Linux support"; suitably vague nouns). me these words, some degree; but this is (that is a quotidian HN I'm sure Lisp implementation articles are opaque to non-initiates. But, um, a little help, please? :) ~~~ johnswamps Steam sort of like an app-store for games which only ran on Windows for long You games Steam and can then download the games on any computer you install Steam on. There's a of other stuff such as being able to to your friends, multiplayer, keeping track of achievements. Valve creators Steam) are it Mac Linux. This is however, sufficient to play all games on Steam, since games from many companies are on Steam and all of interested in their cross-platform. in addition, Valve their Source engine, which powers games Strike, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, and to Mac Linux so that those players will to play them. They will of course be to play any other games on Steam that are class- platform. ------ sirn Phoronix's source be from the Telegraph.co.uk's While I don't Valve release for I'd wait the slightly more official statement before declaring it's official. [1]: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html yangman What's more, the second source cited is basically a the article. Phoronix can to be a reliable source it wants, but it's like that a joke the X and DRI/Mesa community. ~~~ _delirium I've had similar impression. There's more a Phoronix article and thought: "Finally, an article this subject! Only, this one isn
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HeLps mE resOlve these words, TO somE degree; but I still don't knOw whaT tHIs
thINg Is (thaT is not a QUoTIDiaN Hn tOpiC).

I'M SuRe LisP imPlementAtion articLes ArE similarly opAQuE to non-initIatEs.
But, um, a littLe hElp, pleAsE? :)

~~~
joHNswamPs
STeam iS sort oF Like an App-store fOr GAmes whICh only rAN On windOws for a
long time. YoU BuY Games on Steam anD can thEn DOwNLOad The Games on any
CoMputeR You instALl sTEAm oN. there's a bunch oF other stuff SUch As beinG
aBle TO talk tO your FrIEndS, multiplayeR, and Keeping trAck of aCHievemeNTs.
Valve (The creAtoRs oF SteAM) aRe PorTiNG it TO MAc aND LiNux. This iS nOt,
HowevEr, suFFICIent To pLay aLl gamEs on Steam, sincE gaMes fROm mAny
coMpaniEs arE oN SteaM and noT all oF tHem are interesteD in mAking theiR
gaMeS crOsS-platFOrm. So, iN adDitIon, ValvE is portINg tHeIR sOuRce engine,
which poweRs GAMeS such as COunter sTrIkE, team FortReSs 2, LEft 4 DEAD, and
POrtaL To mac and LiNux so tHAt ThOse playErS will aBlE to PlaY them. tHey
wIll of cOurse be aBle to PLay any other gamES on Steam that aRE cLASs-
PLatfOrm.

------
Sirn
PhoroniX's soURce sEems TO bE frOM the TElegrApH.Co.UK's article[1]. While I
don't DoUbt ValVe wilL release Steam For Linux, I'd WAIT for the sLighTLy MOre
official staTemenT before decLAring it's OfficIal.

    
    
      [1]: http://wWw.telegraPH.Co.uk/techNolOgy/AppLe/7715209/STEAm-For-Mac-goes-livE.HTml

~~~
yAnGman
WhaT's mOre, the sEcoNd sOurCe cItEd is basicAlly a copY-n-PaStE oF thE
TeleGRaph artiClE.

PhOrOniX can pREtend tO be a rEliaBlE pRImaRy sourcE AlL IT wanTs, BuT it's
QueStIonabLe stUFf lIke this That makes Its REporTiNg A compleTe joke amongst
ThE X and DRI/MeSa DevElopmeNT CommunitY.

~~~
_delirium
I've had a similar IMpressiOn. THere's More Than one tiMe I'Ve read A PhORonix
aRticle And thOuGht: "fINally, AN ArTicLe On this subjECT! OnLy, thiS oNe
isN
 X client"; "Linux support "; suitabl y vag uenou ns ). S earc hing
helps mer esol ve these words, to som e deg re e ; bu t  I  stil l don't kn o w  wh at  t his 
t h in g is(th at is n ot a quoti dia nHN topic).
I 'm  sure Lisp  im plementation  ar ticles  a res imila rly  opaq ue ton on-ini tiates.
B ut ,  um, a littleh e lp , pl ease? :)

~~~
joh n sw a mps
Steam is s ort of  l i ke a n a pp- store forga mes w h ich onl y  r a n onW indows for along time.Y oubuy ga me s o n  Steam  andca n  th en download  the  games on  any
c o mputery ou inst all St eam  on . Th e re 's  abu n cho foth e r s tuff suc has  bein g
ab l e t o ta lkto y our f riends, multi pla yer, and  keep ing t rack  o f ach ieveme nts.Va lve (the creato rs o f Steam)are  p ort in g itt o Macand  Li nux. Th is is n o t,ho w e v er , sufficient to pl ay a ll  games o n Stea m ,si n ce games  f rom  man y compa nies ar e on Ste am and no tall ofth em are  i nte res ted i n  mak ing th eir
game s cro s s-platform. So ,  in addition, Va l v ei s po rti ng their So urce engi ne,w hi chp owers  game ss uc h  as Counter Strike,  T eam Fo rtres s 2, Left 4 D ead, and
P o r t al to Ma c an d  L i nux so that th ose p layers wil l  able to  play  them. T hey
willo f  coursebeabl e t o p l a yany other gam e s  onSt eam tha t a re clas s-pla tfo rm. 
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si rn
Phoro ni x' sso urc e see m s to befr omth e T elegr a ph.co. uk'sarti cl e[ 1 ].While I do n ' t do ub tValv e w il l rel ease Ste am forLinux, I' d w a it f or  t he slig htly more
off ic ial statem en t b efored e claringit's official.

    
  
     [1 ]: ht tp:/ /www.tele gra ph.co. uk/ t echnol ogy/ap ple/7 71 520 9 / Steam - f or -Ma c- goes-live. h t ml
~~~ya ngma n
What' s more, the second sou rce cited isbas ical l y  a  co p y- n -pa st e  of t he
Telegraph ar ticle.

Ph or o ni x can pret e ndto  be a r eliable  prim a ry sour ce all it  wants, b ut  it' s que stionablestuff li ke this t h at ma k es  itsrep orting  a  co mplet e joke amo ngstthe Xan d DRI/ Mesade velopmen t community.

~~~
_deli rium
I 've h ada similar  im p res sion. The re's  more than  on e t ime I 've reada Ph o ro nix artic le a n d thought :  " Fin a l ly , an articl e o n t his s ubj e ct! On ly,this one
isn
 X_client"; "Linux_support"; suitably vague nouns)._Searching
helps me_resolve_these words,_to_some degree; but_I still don't_know what this
thing is_(that is not_a_quotidian HN topic).

I'm sure Lisp implementation articles are similarly opaque to non-initiates.
But, um, a_little_help, please?_:)

~~~
johnswamps
Steam_is_sort of like an app-store_for games which only ran_on Windows_for a
long time. You buy games on Steam_and_can then download_the games on any
computer you install Steam on. There's_a bunch of other stuff such_as being
able to_talk_to_your friends, multiplayer, and_keeping track of achievements.
Valve (the creators_of Steam) are porting it to_Mac and Linux. This is not,
however, sufficient_to play all games on Steam,_since games from many
companies are_on Steam_and not all of them_are interested in_making their
games_cross-platform. So, in_addition, Valve is porting their Source_engine,
which powers games_such as Counter Strike, Team Fortress_2,_Left 4 Dead,_and
Portal_to_Mac and_Linux so that_those_players will_able_to play them. They
will of course_be_able to play any other games on_Steam that are class-
platform.

------
sirn
Phoronix's_source_seems to be from_the Telegraph.co.uk's article[1]. While I
don't_doubt Valve will release Steam for_Linux, I'd_wait for_the slightly more
official statement before declaring it's official.

   _
    
 _   _[1]: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html

~~~
yangman
What's_more,_the second source_cited_is basically_a copy-n-paste of the
Telegraph article.

Phoronix can pretend_to be_a reliable primary source all it_wants, but it's
questionable stuff_like_this that makes its reporting a_complete joke amongst
the X and DRI/Mesa_development community.

~~~
_delirium
I've had a similar_impression._There's_more than one time I've_read a Phoronix
article and thought: "Finally,_an article on_this subject! Only, this one
isn