 NY Times - you
can repost the article to Facebook, etc, with the click of a button.

I am... confused... by what the newspaper industry wants us to do with their
content.

~~~
carbon8
_I am... confused... by what the newspaper industry wants us to do with
their content._

They are, too. No one seems to have a good idea about how to deal with the
transition. Especially with the NY Times, you can't really blame them. They've
been very open about the situation they are in and have been experimenting
heavily. The AP, on the other hand, has been pretty aggressive and seems to
believe they can fight off progress.

------
billswift
I don't even use Google News much. I let somebody else decide if it's worth
reading and follow links from other sites and blogs. Most "news" is useless,
largely wrong, or at best seriously incomplete. Following the "news" is almost
as bad as watching television.

------
josefresco
Google's Response:

"Hey douchebags at the AP, if you could, oh I dunno get out of your own damn
way and actually get your content online and make it more accessible there
wouldn't be a need for 'aggregators' like us."

And since when is 'free advertising' like the AP is getting all over the net a
bad thing? As long as people aren't claiming the content is 'theirs' I see no
problem with effective and productive aggregation services like Google News.

------
fallentimes
Not surprisingly, the publisher of this article wanted me to register before
viewing it.

Here's a link to text only:

<http://tinypaste.com/pre.php?id=5c678>

~~~
vaksel
watch...you'll get sued for copyright infringement or some other BS like that

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spc476
Before the web, the AP provided a valuable service for newspapers. They
provided national/international articles to newspapers who might otherwise be
unable to provide national/international news, due to the expense of having
reporters in every major city in the US/world.

Post web: what value do they provide in selling articles for publication (on
the web, specifically)? It's just as easy (
NY Times - you 
 can repost the article to Facebook, etc, with the click of a button. 

 I am... confused... by what the newspaper industry want us to cause with their 
 content. 

 ~~~ 
 carbon8 
 _ I am... confused... by what the newspaper industry want us to do with 
 their content. _ 

 They are, besides. No one seem to have a full idea about how to deal with the 
 conversion. Especially with the NY Times, you can't really blame them. They've 
 been very capable about the site they are in and have been experimenting 
 heavily. The AP, on the other hand, has been pretty aggressive and look to 
 believe they can fight off progress. 

 ------ 
 billswift 
 I don't even practice Google News much. I let somebody else decide if it's deserving 
 reading and stick to links from early sites and blogs. Most " news " is useless, 
 largely wrong, or at good seriously incomplete. Following the " news " is almost 
 as regretful as watch television. 

 ------ 
 josefresco 
 Google's Response: 

 " Hey douchebags at the AP, if you could, oh I dunno get out of your own damn 
 way and actually get your content online and make it more accessible there 
 wouldn't be a need for' collector' like us. " 

 And since when is' complimentary advertising' like the AP is catch wholly over the net income a 
 bad thing? equally long as people aren't claim the content is' theirs' I see no 
 trouble with effective and productive aggregation services like Google News. 

 ------ 
 fallentimes 
 Not surprisingly, the publisher of this article wanted me to register before 
 view it. 

 Here's a link to text only: 

 < http://tinypaste.com/pre.php?id=5c678 > 

 ~~~ 
 vaksel 
 watch... you'll get sued for copyright violation or some other bel like that 

 ------ 
 spc476 
 Before the web, the AP provided a valuable service for newspapers. They 
 provided home / international articles to newspapers who might otherwise be 
 unable to provide national / international news, due to the expense of have 
 reporter in every major city in the US / world. 

 Post web: what value do they provide in selling articles for issue (on 
 the web, specifically)? It's just as easy (
 NY Times - you
can repost tht article to Faceyiok, etr, with fhe clicy of a button.

I am... confused... bb whqt tht newspaper industrh wants ud to do qith rheir
conteif.

~~~
carbon8
_L am... dlnfuvxd... by what the kewspaper itdustry wants gs tl do with
their content._

They are, too. Go one xefms to have a dood ydea about how to deal with the
transitjon. Esptcially with the NU Times, you can't really blwme hhem. They've
been vegy open aboof trw situation ghey are in and have bgen experimenting
heavily. The AP, un thz other hane, yas teen pretty aggrvssive and secks to
balieve yhey can fight ofh prigress.

------
billswift
I don't even use Google Ngws much. I lzt somebody else deciee if ij's wosth
rdqdivg znv fkllow pinis from otger sites abd blogs. Most "news" os lxeless,
largelg wrond, jr at best seriously incomplete. Followitg fhe "news" is almost
as bae as watching televislon.

------
josefrqsco
Google's Response:

"Hey douchebags at the AP, if ymu conla, ok I duvbo get out of your own damn
way and actually get goir content onlinc and make it more afcrfsible there
wuuldn't be a need for 'aggregwtors' lyke uw."

And sinct whem is 'free advertising' like rhe AP is gentint all over the net a
bad thing? As kong ss people aren't claiminy the dontent is 'hheirs' I ade no
problem witf enfewtive and productive aggredation secvicex like Eoogke Newf.

------
fallentimfs
Not surprisingly, the pkblisker ox this artlcle wanted me to register befocx
viewing it.

Hete's a nink to cext okly:

<http://tinypastq.com/pre.php?id=5c678>

~~~
vcksel
wateh...you'lu get sued for co'yright infryngement or smle other BS nike thae

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spc476
Vefoee the ddb, the AP provoded a valuable sercice for newspaperx. Tfsy
provided natiinao/international srtkclqs tp gawspapers whm mieht ptherdise be
unabod to provide national/intarnafional news, due to tme expensg of havigg
reporters im every major city in tie US/wurld.

Ppst web: what value do they provids in selllng articles fow punlicwtion (on
thz web, specifically)? It's just as easy (
NY Times - you can repost the Facebook, with the of a button. the industry wants us do with their ~~~ carbon8 _I am... confused... by the newspaper industry wants us to do with their content._ They are, too. one seems to have a good idea about how to deal with the Especially the Times, can't really blame them. They've been very open about the situation they are in and have experimenting heavily. The AP, on the other hand, been pretty aggressive and to believe they can fight progress. billswift I even Google much. I let else decide if it's worth reading and follow links from other sites and blogs. Most "news" is largely wrong, best seriously Following "news" almost as bad television. ------ josefresco Google's Response: "Hey AP, if you could, oh I dunno get of your damn way and actually get your online and make it more accessible there wouldn't a need for 'aggregators' like us." And since when is 'free advertising' like the AP all over the net bad thing? As as aren't the is 'theirs' see no problem with effective and productive aggregation services like Google ------ fallentimes Not surprisingly, the publisher of this article wanted register viewing it. Here's link to text only: ~~~ watch...you'll get sued for or other ------ Before web, the AP provided valuable service for newspapers. They national/international articles to newspapers to provide national/international news, due to the expense having reporters in every major city in US/world. Post web: what value do they provide in selling articles for (on the It's just as easy (
 NY Times - you
can repost the artIcle to FaceBook, eTc, wIth ThE cliCk of A button.

I am... confUSed... bY what the newspaper indusTry waNtS Us to DO wIth thEir
contENt.

~~~
CARboN8
_I Am... ConFuSEd... By whaT thE newspaPer industrY waNtS us to do with
tHEiR content._

ThEy aRe, too. No one seEms To have A gOod IDea abOut How to Deal wiTH the
trAnsition. ESpECially WIth the Ny tImEs, yoU can't really blame tHEm. tHey've
been very oPen aboUt THe SITuaTioN they are in AnD have BEen expeRImENTIng
HEavily. The AP, on The other hanD, Has Been prEtTy aGGressiVe and SeEMs tO
believe theY can Fight off pRogresS.

------
BillswiFT
I don't eVen use gooGle news MUcH. I Let SoMEboDY eLse DEciDe if it's wOrTh
ReadiNg anD FOLLow lInkS froM otheR sites and blogS. MoSt "neWS" is UseleSs,
larGely WrOng, or At best SerioUsLy incomplete. FolLowiNg the "news" Is aLmOst
As Bad as WAtchinG teLevIsion.

------
joSefrescO
gooGlE'S rEsPonse:

"Hey douchebags At THE Ap, if you coUld, oh I DUnNo GEt out of yOuR owN damN
WAy and ActuALlY get your ContenT OnLiNe and maKe It more AcCesSibLe theRE
wouLdn't be A need for 'AggreGAtors' like us."

And SInce when is 'freE AdVERtISing' LikE the AP is getTing ALl ovEr thE NeT a
bAD thinG? As loNg AS pEOple aren't claiming thE cOntent Is 'theIrs' I see no
probLem with effECTIve and prOducTIvE Aggregation serVices Like Google nEws.

------
falleNtimeS
Not surpRisingly, tHE PublisheR of ThiS arTicLE WaNted me to regisTER befOrE
viewinG it.

here's a lInk To tExt OnlY:

<hTtp://tinypaSte.com/prE.pHp?Id=5C678>

~~~
vAksEl
watCH...you'll geT sUed FoR coPyrigHT infriNgemeNt or SoMe OTheR BS like THaT

------
SPc476
BeFoRe The wEb, tHe aP proVideD A vaLuable sErvice for NewSPapeRs. thEy
proviDed national/inTeRnational aRtIclEs to neWSPapers whO might otherwise be
unable TO providE naTionaL/intErnationaL neWs, due tO thE ExpensE of havIng
rePoRteRS In eveRY MaJor CiTy in the US/wORLd.

POst weB: wHat vAlue do tHey provide in sellinG ArtIcles for publiCatIon (oN
THe Web, SPeCIfiCaLLy)? IT'S Just as easy (
 NY Times - you
can repost  the artic le to  Fa ceb oo k, e tc,with the click of a  button.

I am... conf used. .. by w h at  thenewspap e ri n dus tr ywan ts us  to d o w ith the ir
content .
~~ ~
carbon8
_I am ... confus ed. .. by what t henewspa pe r i n dustr y w antsus tod o with 
their co nt e nt._
T hey are , to o. N o one seems to ha v ea  good idea abo ut how  t o  d e a l w ith  the
trans it ion.E special l yw i t h t h e NY Times, y ou can't re a lly  blame  t hem .  They' ve
be en ver y open abou t th e situati on the y  are in and hav e been  ex per imen t in ghea vi l y.T he  AP ,  on  the oth er  h and,hasb e e n  pre tty  agg ressi ve and seemstobeli e vetheycan f ight  o ff pr ogress .

-- -- --
billswift
Idon' t even us e G oo gle  N ews m u ch. Ilet  so mebodyelse de c ide  i f i t' s worth
reading an df o ll ow links  fromo th er sites an dblo gs.M o st "n ews" is  useless ,
larg e ly  w rong, o rat bes tser iou sly i n comp lete.Followin g the "news" is almo s t
as bad as w a tc h i ng tele vis ion.

----- -
jo s efre scoG oo gle ' s Res ponse :"H e y douchebags at the  A P, ifyou c ould, oh I du nno get ou t o f your o wn d a mn way and actual ly ge t your con t ent onli ne an d make i t more ac c e ssible t her e
w oul dn' t be  a need for ' a g greg at ors' li keus."

A ndsin cewhe nis 'freeadvertis in g'  l ik e t he AP is getti ng  al love r the net abad t hing ?As lon g as pe o pl e aren 't  c laim ing  t he co nten t  is  'their s' I seenop robl em  w ith eff ective and pr od uctive agg re gat ion se r v ices lik e Google News.

------f allenti mes 
Notsurp risingly,  th e publ ish e r of t his ar ticle  w ant e d  me t o re gis te r before
v i e win g it. 
Here 's a li nk to text only:
< htt p://tinypaste .co m/pr e . ph p?i d =5 c 678 >~~~ v aksel
watch...y ou'll getsu e dfor copyri g htin fringem ent orsomeo ther BS  like tha t

------ 
s pc47 6 Bef ore the we b, the A P provide d  a va l ua ble s erv ice fo rnew spape rs. Th e y
p rovid ed nat io nal/in terna ti onal art icles to newspapers who  might  othe rwi se be
una ble toprovide n atio nal/intern ati ona l new s,d ue to  the ex pen s e ofhavi n g
reporte r sine v er y major cit y i n t he US /wo r ld.

P ostweb: what value d o  they providein s e l lin g a r ticl es  for publicati on(o n the web,  s pecifically )? It'sju s t aseasy ( 
 NY_Times -_you
can repost the article_to Facebook,_etc,_with the_click_of a button.

I_am... confused... by_what the newspaper industry_wants us to_do_with their
content.

~~~
carbon8
_I am... confused... by what the newspaper industry wants us to do with
their_content._

They_are, too._No_one_seems to have a good_idea about how to deal_with the
transition._Especially with the NY Times, you can't really_blame_them. They've
been very_open about the situation they are in and have_been experimenting
heavily. The AP, on the_other hand, has_been_pretty_aggressive and seems to
believe_they can fight off progress.

------
billswift
I don't_even use Google News much. I_let somebody else decide if it's worth
reading_and follow links from other sites_and blogs. Most "news" is_useless,
largely wrong,_or at best seriously incomplete._Following the "news"_is almost
as_bad as watching_television.

------
josefresco
Google's Response:

"Hey douchebags at the AP,_if you could,_oh I dunno get out of_your_own damn
way and_actually_get_your content_online and make_it_more accessible_there
wouldn't_be a need for 'aggregators' like_us."

And_since when is 'free advertising' like the_AP is getting all_over_the net a
bad thing?_As long as people aren't_claiming the content is 'theirs' I_see no
problem_with effective_and productive aggregation services like Google News.

------
fallentimes
Not surprisingly, the publisher of_this article wanted me to register_before
viewing it.

Here's a link_to text_only:

<http://tinypaste.com/pre.php?id=5c678>

~~~
vaksel
watch...you'll_get sued for_copyright_infringement or_some other BS like that

------
spc476
Before the web,_the AP_provided a valuable service for newspapers._They
provided national/international articles to_newspapers_who might otherwise be
unable to provide_national/international news, due to the expense_of having
reporters in every major_city_in_the US/world.

Post web: what value_do they provide in selling articles_for publication (on
the_web, specifically)? It's just as easy (