
drug lords that inspired them by the crimes and strategies detailed in the
book, though it can get confusing since Winslow often merges two real drug
lords into a single character or branches out a single drug lord into two or
more characters.

For example, Adán Barrera—the main antagonist in The Cartel—is based on one of
the Arellano Felix brothers in The Power of the Dog, but then takes on Chapo
Guzman's persona in The Cartel.

But when you realize that a lot of what Winslow describes actually happened in
real life it puts a lot of things into perspective—especially the US's
involvement on both sides of the coin.

------
bluedino
Heroin is cheap. Really, really cheap. It's really, really addicting. It's
easy to overdose on. And people mix it with shit like fentanyl which makes it
even easier to kill yourself with.

It's a really terrible drug.

~~~
MichaelGG
Heroin can be a useful medication. Street opiates are bad because there's no
regulation. It's not inherent in the medication. Take _anything_ and vary the
strength/purity by 50x and see how many people die. A 50x dose of Tylenol will
kill you just as well (more painful, actually).

~~~
x1798DE
You don't really need regulation to get consistent strength/purity, branding
(Buy Mack's Heroin - guaranteed 99.99% pure with no adulterants!) and tort law
(you said this contained 20mg of heroin, it contained, dangerously, twice that
amount, you are liable for my consequent overdose) should be enough to handle
that, if producers were competing on quality and not "ability to operate in a
black market".

------
DigitalJack
So with people here talking about opioids from docs leading to heroin, a
question came to mind:

If you have been given opioids for pain, did they work? I ask because for me
they don’t. I get buzzed, euphoric, but they don’t do squat for pain for me.
Same with marijuana. No effect on my pain at all.

In fact, for me, marijuana makes me even more accutely aware of physical
discomfort. Am I just an odd
drug lords that inspired them by the crimes and strategies detail in the 
 ledger, though it can get confusing since Winslow often merges two substantial drug 
 lords into a single quality or outgrowth out a single drug lord into two or 
 more character. 

 For example, Adán Barrera — the main adversary in The Cartel — is based on one of 
 the Arellano Felix brothers in The Power of the Dog, but then takes on Chapo 
 Guzman's persona in The Cartel. 

 But when you gain that a lot of what Winslow describes actually happened in 
 real life it arrange a lot of things into perspective — specially the US's 
 involvement on both sides of the coin. 

 ------ 
 bluedino 
 Heroin is cheap. Really, truly cheap. It's really, really addicting. It's 
 easy to overdose on. And citizenry mix it with shit like fentanyl which makes it 
 even easier to kill yourself with. 

 It's a really terrible drug. 

 ~~~ 
 MichaelGG 
 Heroin can be a useful medication. Street opiates are bad because there's no 
 regulation. It's not inherent in the medication. Take _ anything _ and vary the 
 strength / honor by 50x and attend how many people fail. A 50x venereal disease of acetaminophen will 
 kill you just as well (more painful, actually). 

 ~~~ 
 x1798DE 
 You don't really need regulation to get reproducible strength / purity, branding 
 (Buy Mack's Heroin - guaranteed 99.99% pure with no adulterants !) and tort police 
 (you said this contained 20 mg of heroin, it contained, perilously, twice that 
 amount, you are apt for my consequent overdose) should be enough to handle 
 that, if producers were competing on quality and not " ability to engage in a 
 black market ". 

 ------ 
 DigitalJack 
 So with citizenry here talking about opioids from docs leading to heroin, a 
 question fall to heed: 

 If you have been given opioids for pain, did they exploit? I ask because for me 
 they make n’t. I get buzzed, euphoric, but they do n’t suffice squat for annoyance for me. 
 Same with marijuana. No effect on my pain at wholly. 

 In fact, for me, marijuana makes me even more accutely aware of physical 
 discomfort. Am I just an odd

druh lords that inspired thtm by the crimes cbd stretegies detailea in the
book, though it can gxt cinfusung since Winslow oftev merges nwo real erug
oirds into e single charadber ox uranches out a xingle druc lord into twm ur
lore characters.

For example, Adán Barrqra—the kaln antagonist yn Tnq Cadneo—is based on one of
the Arellaho Feliq brothers in The Power of the Dog, but then takfs on Chapo
Guzman's persona in The Xartel.

But whdn you realize that a mot of what Winslow describes aztualky happenee un
rfdl life it 'uts a lot of thinnx into perspevtive—especialln the US'w
involvement on both vides of the coin.

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bjuedino
Hesonn is cheap. Really, reqloy chgap. Id's rdqllh, rtalky addichinj. It's
easy tk overdose in. And people mix iu wynn shit like rentanrl which makes it
even easier to kill yourvelr with.

It's a really terruble drug.

~~~
MichaelGG
Herlin can bq a useful medication. Street opiates are bad becagse tiefe's nj
fwgklation. It's not inherent in the medication. Tahs _snjthing_ and vary tme
strength/purity bu 50d sgd see how mavy peo'me die. A 50x dose of Tjlenol rill
kull you jtst ss well (more painful, actualoy).

~~~
x1798DE
You don'n reqlly need regulatiln to get cunsixtent strength/purity, brandiny
(Buy Mzck's Heroin - guarantsdd 99.99% pure with no adlltesants!) and tort law
(you said this convaineb 20mg of feroon, it sontained, fangevmusly, twice that
amlunt, iou ara liable flr my consequent overdose) shoulv be enough tp vangle
that, nf procucers were cjmpeting on quclity anb not "xbility to operatx in a
black iarket".

------
DigitalBwck
So with pxople herq taokint about upioids from dpcs leadiuy to heroun, a
question came bo mivs:

If you have bezu tiven opioids fpr oaig, fiv ther work? I ask tecajse gor md
they don’t. L gdt bizzed, euphoric, but tvey son’t do squat for laln for me.
Wame witr marijuana. Np effect on my paij at ell.

In hact, fpr ie, marijuana makes me even mors accutelj arare of physycal
eiscomfort. Ak I just an odd
drug lords that inspired them by the strategies in the though it can merges real drug lords a single character branches out a single drug lord two or more characters. For example, Adán Barrera—the main antagonist in The Cartel—is on one of the Arellano Felix brothers in The Power of the Dog, then on Guzman's in The Cartel. But when you realize that a lot of what Winslow describes actually happened real life it puts a lot of things perspective—especially the US's involvement both sides of the coin. bluedino is cheap. really It's really addicting. It's to overdose on. And people mix it with shit like fentanyl which makes it even easier to yourself with. really terrible ~~~ Heroin be a useful opiates are bad because there's no inherent in the medication. Take _anything_ and vary strength/purity by and see how many people die. 50x dose of Tylenol will kill you just well (more painful, actually). ~~~ x1798DE You don't really need regulation to get consistent strength/purity, Mack's Heroin - guaranteed pure with no and law said contained 20mg heroin, it contained, dangerously, twice that amount, you are liable for consequent overdose) should be enough to handle that, if producers on and not "ability operate in a black ------ So with people here opioids docs a came mind: If you have given opioids for pain, did work? I ask because get buzzed, euphoric, but they don’t do squat pain for me. Same with marijuana. No on my pain at all. In fact, for me, marijuana makes me more accutely physical discomfort. Am I just an odd

drug lords that inspired them By the crimeS and sTraTegIeS detAileD in the
book, thouGH it cAn get confusing since WinSlow oFtEN merGEs Two reAl drug
lORdS INto A sInGle ChARaCter oR brAnches oUt a single dRug LoRd into two or
mORe Characters.

for Example, Adán BArrEra—the MaIn aNTagonIst In The cartel—IS based On one of
thE AREllano fElix broTHErS in THe Power of the Dog, buT ThEN takes on Chapo
GUzman's PeRSoNA In THe CArtel.

But whEn You reALize thaT A lOT OF whAT Winslow descrIbes actuallY HapPened iN
rEal LIfe it pUts a lOt OF thIngs into perSpecTive—especIally tHE US's
invOLvement On both SidEs oF the COiN.

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bLueDiNO
HeROiN is CHeaP. Really, rEaLlY cheaP. It's REALLy, reAllY addIctinG. It's
easy to oveRdoSe on. aNd pEople Mix it With ShIt likE fentaNyl whIcH makes it
even easIer tO kill yourSelF wIth.

it'S a reaLLy terrIblE drUg.

~~~
MichaElGG
HerOIn cAn BE A UsEful medication. StreEt OPIaTes are baD becauSE tHeRE's no
reguLaTioN. It's NOT inheRent IN tHe medicaTion. TaKE _aNyThing_ anD vAry the
StRenGth/PuritY By 50x aNd see hOw many peOple dIE. A 50x dose of TylenOL will
kill you jUSt AS WeLL (morE paInful, actualLy).

~~~
x1798De
you dOn't rEAlLy nEEd regUlatiOn TO gET consistent strength/PuRity, brAndinG
(Buy Mack's HeroIn - guaranteED 99.99% PUre with nO aduLTeRAnts!) and tort law
(You saId this contAIned 20mg of HeroiN, it contaIned, dangeROUsly, twicE thAt
aMouNt, yOU ArE liable for my cONSequEnT overdoSe) sHould be EnoUgh To hAndLe
That, if proDucers weRe CoMpEtIng On quaLIty and noT "aBilItY to OperaTE in a
blAck maRket".

------
diGiTAlJAck
So wiTH pEOPle hErE tAlkiNg aBoUt opiOids FRom Docs leaDing to herOin, A
QuesTiOn Came to mInd:

If you have bEeN given opioIdS foR pain, dID They work? i ask because for me
they don’T. i get buzZed, EuphoRic, bUt they don’T do Squat fOr pAIn for mE.
Same wIth maRiJuaNA. no effECT oN my PaIn at all.

In fACT, foR me, maRiJuanA makes mE even more accutely aWAre Of physical
disComFort. aM i jUst AN oDD

drug lords that inspiredthem by th e cri mes  an dstra tegi es detailed in thebook, though it can ge t con fu s ings in ce Wi nslow o f te n mer ge stwo  r e al  drug 
lo rds int o a single  ch ar acter or bra n ch es out a s ing le drug lord  in to two  o r
m o re ch ara cters .

For exampl e, Adán B ar r era—th e  main a n t ag onis t in The Cartel—i s  b a sed on one ofthe Ar el l an o Fel ixbrothers i nThe P o wer oft he D o g,b ut then takes  on Chapo
G u zma n's pe rs ona in The  Cart el . 

B ut when you  rea lize that  a lot of what Winslow  descr ibe s a ctua l ly  h app en e d i n 
r eal lif e it put salot o f th i n g s  int o p ersp ectiv e—especiallythe  US' s 
in volve menton b ot h sid es ofthe c oi n.

------
blue dino 
Heroin i s c he ap.  R eally ,  reall y c hea p. It's  really ,  re al l y ad dicting. It's
easy  t o ov erdose o n. And pe op l e mix it  w ith  shi t likefent a ny l whichmakesi tev en easi er  to ki ll  yo urs elf w i th.
It'sa really  terr i ble drug.

~~~ MichaelGG
Her o in c an be a  us eful medica tion .  Str eeto pi ate s  arebad b ec a us e  there's no
regulat io n. It' s not  inherent inthe medica t i o n. Take_any t hi n g_ and vary th e
str ength/puri t y by 50x  andsee howmany peop l e  die. A50x  do seofT y le nol will
kill y ou j us t as we ll(more p ain ful , a ctu al ly).

~~~ 
x1798DE 
Y ou  d on 'treall y  need re gu lat io n t o get consis tentstre ng th / pur ity, br a nd i n g
(B uy  M ack' s H er oin -  gua r ant eed 99. 99% purewit h  noad ul terants !) and tort l aw 
(you said  t his  conta i n ed 20mgof heroin, it contained ,  danger ous ly, t wice  that
amo unt , youare liable  for m y con se que n t  over d o se ) s ho uld be eno u g h t o han dl e
th at, ifproducers were com p eti ng on quality  an d no t "a bil i ty toop e rat e in a
black mark et".

---- -- Di gitalJackS o w it h peopl e heretalki n g about  opioidsfrom docs  l eadi n g  to  heroin, a 
questio n came to mind: 
I f you  ha ve bee ngiv en op ioidsf orpain,  did t he y work ? I a sk  because  for me
they don’t. I g et buz zed,eup horic, bu t t h eydon’t dosqua t for pain  fo r m e.
Sa mew ith m arij u an a.N o eff ecto n my pain at  al l . 
In fact, fo r m e,marij uan a  makes  meeven more accutel y  aware of phys ical d isc omf o rt.Am  I just an odd 

drug lords_that inspired_them by the crimes_and strategies_detailed_in the
book,_though_it can get_confusing since Winslow_often merges two real_drug
lords into a_single_character or branches out a single drug lord into two or
more characters.

For example, Adán_Barrera—the_main antagonist_in_The_Cartel—is based on one of
the_Arellano Felix brothers in The_Power of_the Dog, but then takes on Chapo
Guzman's persona_in_The Cartel.

But when_you realize that a lot of what Winslow describes_actually happened in
real life it puts_a lot of_things_into_perspective—especially the US's
involvement on_both sides of the coin.

------
bluedino
Heroin is_cheap. Really, really cheap. It's really,_really addicting. It's
easy to overdose on. And_people mix it with shit like_fentanyl which makes it
even easier_to kill_yourself with.

It's a really terrible_drug.

~~~
MichaelGG
Heroin can be_a useful_medication. Street opiates_are bad because there's no
regulation. It's_not inherent in_the medication. Take _anything_ and vary_the
strength/purity_by 50x and_see_how_many people_die. A 50x_dose_of Tylenol_will
kill_you just as well (more painful,_actually).

~~~
x1798DE
You_don't really need regulation to get consistent_strength/purity, branding
(Buy Mack's Heroin_-_guaranteed 99.99% pure with_no adulterants!) and tort law
(you_said this contained 20mg of heroin,_it contained,_dangerously, twice_that
amount, you are liable for my consequent overdose) should be enough_to handle
that, if producers were competing_on quality and not_"ability to_operate_in a
black market".

------
DigitalJack
So_with_people here_talking about opioids from docs leading to_heroin, a
question_came to mind:

If you have been_given opioids for pain,_did_they work? I ask because for_me
they don’t. I get buzzed, euphoric,_but they don’t do squat_for_pain_for me.
Same with marijuana. No_effect on my pain at all.

In_fact, for me,_marijuana makes me even more accutely aware_of_physical
discomfort. Am I just an odd