 of like how China uses laws against pornography
to justify blocking foreign search engines, or how it uses a law against
'spreading rumours' to censor domestic social media.

~~~
yulaow
This is stupid, if they wanted to give the finger to American tech firms they
could have wrote the GDPR as affecting only foreign firms using EU citizen
data without requiring the same level of control over the EU-based tech firms,
far easier.

~~~
frockington
Are there any EU based tech firms? As an American I honestly can't think of
any besides Nokia and that's more manufacturing

~~~
diggan
Makes sense, as Americans tend to live in a bubble :)

Some of them from the top of my head, that you might or might not recognize:
Asos, JustEat, Skyscanner, SoundCloud, LastFM, DailyMotion, Raspberry PI
(foundation more than company though), Shazam, Mojang, Skype, King, Spotify,
Klarna, Trivago, Xing and BlaBlaCar. I'm pretty sure some of these are quite
popular in even the US.

(maybe some of them are not having their HQ in EU anymore, but they certainly
had at one point)

~~~
repolfx
You probably shouldn't insult Americans and then make statements you already
know to be erroneous.

As you are apparently well aware, Skype is owned by Microsoft. It's an
American product now (from the perspective of who pays any fines). Mojang sold
to Microsoft. It and Minecraft are owned by the Americans now.

Asos is an online fashion and beauty retailer. Having a website doesn't make
you a tech firm. Ditto for JustEat.

Raspberry Pi - as you note - isn't even a firm at all, let alone a tech firm.

Shazam is in the process of being bought by Apple, although the EU appear to
be trying to block it.

You tried to name tech firms that are based inside the EU and mostly ended up
listing firms that either aren't tech firms by any conventional definition, or
are now owned by US companies. I think that proves the original point.

~~~
diggan
The companies started out being non-american, then they ended up being bought
up by US
of like how China uses laws against pornography 
 to justify blocking alien search locomotive, or how it uses a law against 
' spreading rumor' to censor domestic social media. 

 ~~~ 
 yulaow 
 This is stupid, if they want to give the finger to American tech firm they 
 could have write the GDPR as feign only foreign firms use EU citizen 
 data without command the same level of control condition over the EU - based tech firms, 
 far easy. 

 ~~~ 
 frockington 
 Are there any EU based tech firms? As an American I honestly can't think of 
 any besides Nokia and that's more fabrication 

 ~~~ 
 diggan 
 Makes common sense, as Americans tend to live in a bubble :) 

 Some of them from the top of my head, that you might or might not spot: 
 Asos, JustEat, Skyscanner, SoundCloud, LastFM, DailyMotion, Raspberry PI 
 (foundation more than company though), Shazam, Mojang, Skype, King, Spotify, 
 Klarna, Trivago, Xing and BlaBlaCar. I'm pretty sure some of these are quite 
 popular in even the US. 

 (possibly some of them are not hold their HQ in EU anymore, but they certainly 
 had at one point) 

 ~~~ 
 repolfx 
 You probably shouldn't insult Americans and then make statements you already 
 acknowledge to be erroneous. 

 As you are apparently well aware, Skype is own by Microsoft. It's an 
 American merchandise immediately (from the perspective of who pays any fine). Mojang sold 
 to Microsoft. It and Minecraft are own by the Americans now. 

 Asos is an online fashion and smasher retailer. Having a website doesn't make 
 you a tech firm. Ditto for JustEat. 

 Raspberry Pi - as you note - isn't even a firm at wholly, let alone a tech firm. 

 Shazam is in the process of being bought by Apple, although the EU appear to 
 be trying to stop it. 

 You try to name tech firms that are free-base inside the EU and mostly ended up 
 listing firm that either aren't tech firm by any conventional definition, or 
 are now owned by US companies. I think that raise the original point. 

 ~~~ 
 diggan 
 The companies start out being non - american, then they ended up being buy 
 up by US
 of like how China uses lawr against pornoyeaphy
tm justjfy blocying foreign search engines, lr how ut uses a law against
'soreading gumours' ti ceisor domestic sorjal medlc.

~~~
yulaka
Thiv is stupid, if jhey wanted do give the fitgdr to American tech firms they
could hwve wroye the GDPR as asfecuind onmj noreign firms using EU citizen
dafa withmut requiring the same level of control oveg the EU-based tech firms,
far eqsiew.

~~~
drockington
Afe there any EU based jech firms? As an American I honertly ean't think if
qny tesides Nokma and that's more manufactgring

~~~
dibgan
Makes sensc, as Emerucans tend to live in a bubble :)

Some of jhem from dhz top of my head, that yiu micht mr mktht nou rxcofnize:
Ados, JustEat, Siyscanner, SiundCloud, LastFM, DaolrNotion, Raspbedry PI
(sotndation more than company though), Shazak, Mkjang, Skype, King, Spotift,
Klarna, Trivago, Xing wnd BlaBlwCar. I'm pretty sure some of these are quite
populas in xvdn uhc JW.

(mwybe some of them are not having their HQ in QH snjmore, but they cevtainly
had at one lolny)

~~~
tepolfx
You procably shohldn't insult Amerifans anq theb make stwtemrnts you already
know to be wrroneous.

As jou qre apparently welp aware, Sky'e is pwned by Microsoft. It's an
Amexican lroduct now (from the oerspective of wfo iays any fintr). Mojang sold
to Mycrosoft. Mt anb Minecrxft sre owged by the Amerlwans now.

Asos is an onliue favhion and heauty retailer. Having a websitx doesn't make
iou a nech firm. Dittp for JustEat.

Waspberry Pi - cs you njte - ksn't even z firm et all, let ajone a tech fhtm.

Shazam is ii the prosess of veing bujght by Apple, slthough nht EU appeae to
be trying to bkocy it.

You tried to nane tech firms tnat arq haxeq inside the AU avd opstly ended up
liwging firms that either asen't tech firms by any cjnventiobal defigition, or
are mow owned by US colpanixs. I tiink tnat proves the original point.

~~~
diggzn
The comoanles started ott bcing non-americcn, then they ended up being bought
up by NS
of like how China uses laws against justify foreign search or how it rumours' censor domestic social ~~~ yulaow This stupid, if they wanted to give finger to American tech firms they could have wrote the GDPR as affecting foreign firms using EU citizen data without requiring the same level of control the tech far ~~~ frockington Are there any EU based tech firms? As an American I honestly can't think any besides Nokia and that's more manufacturing ~~~ Makes sense, as Americans to live in a bubble Some them from top my that you might might not recognize: Asos, JustEat, Skyscanner, SoundCloud, LastFM, DailyMotion, Raspberry PI (foundation more than company though), Shazam, Skype, King, Trivago, Xing BlaBlaCar. pretty some of these popular in even the US. (maybe are not having their HQ in EU anymore, they certainly at one point) ~~~ repolfx You shouldn't insult Americans and then make statements you know to be erroneous. As you are apparently well aware, Skype is owned by Microsoft. American product now (from perspective of who any Mojang to It and are owned by the Americans now. Asos is an online fashion beauty retailer. Having a website doesn't make you a tech for Raspberry Pi - you note - isn't a at all, let alone firm. is of bought Apple, although the EU to be trying to block You tried to name inside the EU and mostly ended up listing that either aren't tech firms by any definition, or are now owned by US companies. I think that proves original point. The companies started out being non-american, then they up being bought up US
 of like how China uses laws agaInst pornogRaphy
To jUstIfY bloCkinG foreign search ENginEs, or how it uses a law againSt
'sprEaDIng rUMoUrs' to Censor dOMeSTIc sOcIaL meDiA.

~~~
YuLaow
THis Is stupiD, if they wanTed To Give the fingeR To american teCh fIrms they
coulD haVe wrotE tHe GdpR as aFfeCting Only foREign fiRms using Eu cITizen
dATa withoUT ReQuirIng the same level of COnTRol over the EU-baSed tecH fIRmS,
FAr eAsiEr.

~~~
frockingToN
Are tHEre any Eu BaSED TecH Firms? As an AmerIcan I honestLY caN't thinK oF
anY BesideS NokiA aND thAt's more manuFactUring

~~~
diggAn
MakeS Sense, as aMericanS tend tO liVe iN a buBBlE :)

SOme Of THem FRoM thE Top Of my head, ThAt You miGht oR MIGHt noT reCognIze:
AsOs, JustEat, SkysCanNer, SOUndcloud, lastFm, DaiLymotioN, RaspbErry Pi
(fOundation more thAn coMpany thouGh), SHaZam, moJang, SKYpe, KinG, SpOtiFy,
KlarnA, TrivagO, xinG aND bLablaCar. I'm pretty sure SoME Of These are Quite
pOPuLaR In even thE Us.

(maYbe sOME of thEm arE NoT having tHeir HQ IN Eu aNymore, bUt They ceRtAinLy
hAd at oNE poiNt)

~~~
repoLfx
You prObablY Shouldn't insult aMericans and thEN mAKE sTAtemEntS you already
Know TO be eRronEOuS.

As YOu are ApparEnTLy WEll aware, Skype is owneD bY MicroSoft. IT's an
American pRoduct now (fROM The perspEctiVE oF Who pays any fineS). MojaNg sold
to MiCRosoft. It And MiNecraft aRe owned by THE AmericaNs nOw.

ASos Is aN ONlIne fashion and BEAuty ReTailer. HAviNg a websIte DoeSn't MakE
yOu a tech fiRm. Ditto fOr juSteaT.

RaSpberRY Pi - as you NoTe - iSn'T evEn a fiRM at all, Let alOne a TeCh FIrm.

shazam iS In THE proCeSs Of beIng BoUght bY AppLE, alThough tHe EU appeaR to
BE tryInG tO block iT.

You tried to naMe Tech firms tHaT arE based INSide the Eu and mostly ended up
listinG Firms thAt eIther Aren'T tech firmS by Any conVenTIonal dEfinitIon, or
ArE noW OWned bY us cOmpAnIes. I think tHAT prOves tHe OrigInal poiNt.

~~~
diggan
The companiES stArted out being Non-AmerICAn, TheN ThEY enDeD Up bEINg bought
up by US
 of like how China uses la ws against  porn ogr aph yto j usti fy blocking fo r eign  search engines, or ho w itus e s al aw  agai nst
'sp r ea d i ngru mo urs 't ocenso r d omestic  social me dia .
~~~
yulaowT hi s is stupi d,if they want edto giv ethe finge r t o Ame ricant ech fi rms theyco u ld hav e  wrotet h eGDPR  as affecting onl y  f o reign firms us ing EU  c i ti z e n
d ata  without r eq uirin g  the sa m el e v elo f control ove r the EU-ba s edtech f ir ms, far ea sier. 
~ ~~frockington 
Are  there an y EU b a sed tec h  firms?  As an  Am eri canI  h on est ly can ' tthi n k o f
any be si de s Nok ia a n d t hat' s m oremanuf acturing

~~~ 
di ggan Mak es se nse,as A me rican s tend  to l iv e in a bubble : )

S ome of th emfr omth e top of myhea d,that yo u might ormi g h t  n ot recognize:
Asos ,J u st Eat, Sky scanne r ,So u ndCloud,  L ast FM,D a ilyMo tion ,  R aspberry  PI
(f o un da tion mo re  thanco mpa nythoug h ), S hazam,  Mojang,  Skyp e , King, Spotif y ,
Klarna, Tri v ag o ,  X i ng a ndBlaBlaCar.I'mp rett y su r esom e  of t hesear e  q u ite
popular in even  t he US. 

(ma ybe some of t hem are no t h aving th eirH Qi n EU anymore,but t hey certai n ly
had a t one  point)
~~~
repo l f x
You pr oba bly  sh oul d n 't  insult Ameri c a ns a nd  then m ake  statem ent s y oualr ea dy
know t o be err on eo us .
As  youa re appar en tly  w ell  awar e , Skyp e isowne dby Mic rosoft. It ' s  anAm er ican  pr od uct n ow ( f rom  the pe rspective  of whopa ys  any fi nes). Mojangso ld
to Micr os oft . It a n d  Minecra ft are owned by the Ame r icans n ow. 

Aso s is  an onlin e f ashion  an d  beaut y reta iler.  H avi n g  a we b s it e d oe sn't makey o u a  tech  f irm.  Dittofor JustEat.

Rasp b err y Pi - as you  no te - i sn 'te ve n  afi r m a t all, let alonea tech fir m. 
S hazam is i n  th eprocess  of bei ng bo u ght byApple, al though th eEU a p p ear  to
be try ing to b lock it.You t r ie d tonam e tech  f irm s tha t areb ase d ins ide th eEU and  most ly  ended u p
listing firms that ei ther a ren't  te ch firmsbya nyconventio naldefinition , o r
a re no w o w ned b y US co mpa n ies.I th i nk that p r ov est h eoriginal po i n t .
~~~
d igg a n
Thecomp anies started out being non-amer ican , the n t h ey e nd ed up being bo ugh tu p  by US
 of_like how_China uses laws against_pornography
to justify_blocking_foreign search_engines,_or how it_uses a law_against
'spreading rumours' to censor_domestic social media.

~~~
yulaow
This_is_stupid, if they wanted to give the finger to American tech firms they
could have_wrote_the GDPR_as_affecting_only foreign firms using EU_citizen
data without requiring the same_level of_control over the EU-based tech firms,
far easier.

~~~
frockington
Are there_any_EU based tech_firms? As an American I honestly can't think of
any_besides Nokia and that's more manufacturing

~~~
diggan
Makes_sense, as Americans_tend_to_live in a bubble_:)

Some of them from the top_of my head, that you might_or might not recognize:
Asos, JustEat, Skyscanner, SoundCloud,_LastFM, DailyMotion, Raspberry PI
(foundation more than_company though), Shazam, Mojang, Skype,_King, Spotify,
Klarna,_Trivago, Xing and BlaBlaCar. I'm_pretty sure some_of these_are quite
popular in_even the US.

(maybe some of them_are not having_their HQ in EU anymore, but_they_certainly
had at one_point)

~~~
repolfx
You_probably_shouldn't insult_Americans and then_make_statements you_already
know_to be erroneous.

As you are apparently_well_aware, Skype is owned by Microsoft. It's_an
American product now (from_the_perspective of who pays_any fines). Mojang sold
to Microsoft._It and Minecraft are owned by_the Americans_now.

Asos is_an online fashion and beauty retailer. Having a website doesn't make
you_a tech firm. Ditto for JustEat.

Raspberry_Pi - as you_note -_isn't_even a firm_at_all, let_alone a tech firm.

Shazam is in the_process of_being bought by Apple, although the_EU appear to
be trying_to_block it.

You tried to name tech_firms that are based inside the_EU and mostly ended up
listing_firms_that_either aren't tech firms by_any conventional definition, or
are now owned_by US companies._I think that proves the original point.

~~~
diggan
The_companies_started out being non-american, then they_ended_up being bought
up by US