 you will be
ostracised or directly banned for working for the public, just because you are
"an subhuman stubborn charnego". If you born in Euskadi and then go to
Barcelona for work, you need to be able to speak fluently four languages
(spanish, english, vasque and catalan) just to start talking about having a
job. If this guy move to Galicia later, will need to learn the Galizian
language also.

Oh, If your foreign language in the middle school was french, and a lot of
spanish people still studied french in this generation, you will not graduate
unless you speak French. If you want as adult to work for a german company you
will need a little deutsch of course to be competitive in the job interview.

But the worst stupid thing is that most of the time to be fluent or not is not
necessary at all for the job because some kind of problems can be solved in
any language and because human brain can fill the communication gaps easily.
Is just that is trendy to ask for this.

For some jobs you will need to be "fluent" also in more languages: C, Ruby,
Java, Python... Don't worry. They still will say that you are "unskilled" and
will want to pay you in peanuts.

~~~
throwaway_9191
Oh please, spare the HN crowd of your anti-Catalan obsessions. Or, on second
thought, please continue to educate the community on the anti-Catalan
sentiment that is unfortunately so common throughout Spain.

> If you don't speak Catalan and live in Cataluña you just will never finish
> the middle school.

Or you will learn Catalan which is kinda the fucking point of education? Boo-
hoo, Catalonians want kids to learn Catalan if they are going to live in
Catalonia! By the way Spanish is mandatory too, why won't you find a problem
with that?

> Or if you want to work for the administration you will be ostracised > Is
> just that is trendy to ask for this.

Try getting a job in the public administration in Spain without speaking
Spanish, in France without speaking French, in Italy without speaking Italian,
in the UK without speaking English... see the pattern? Should
you will be 
 ostracised or directly banned for working for the populace, barely because you are 
 " an subhuman stubborn charnego ". If you born in Euskadi and then run to 
 Barcelona for study, you need to be able to speak fluently four linguistic process 
 (spanish, english, vasque and catalan) precisely to start talking about having a 
 job. If this guy act to Galicia later, will need to teach the Galizian 
 linguistic process also. 

 Oh, If your foreign language in the middle school was french, and a lot of 
 spanish citizenry still studied french in this generation, you will not calibrate 
 unless you speak French. If you want as adult to knead for a german party you 
 will need a fiddling deutsch of course to be competitive in the job interview. 

 But the worst unintelligent thing is that most of the time to be fluent or not is not 
 necessary at all for the job because some kind of trouble can be solved in 
 any language and because human brain can fill the communication gaps easily. 
 Is just that is trendy to ask for this. 

 For some jobs you will need to be " eloquent " besides in more languages: C, Ruby, 
 Java, Python... Don't worry. They still will suppose that you are " unskilled " and 
 will want to pay you in peanut. 

 ~~~ 
 throwaway_9191 
 Oh please, spare the HN crowd of your anti - Catalan obsessions. Or, on second 
 thought, please continue to educate the residential district on the anti - Catalan 
 sentiment that is unfortunately so common throughout Spain. 

 > If you don't speak Catalan and live in Cataluña you just will never finish 
 > the middle school. 

 Or you will learn Catalan which is kinda the fucking point of education? Boo- 
 hoo, Catalonians desire kids to memorize Catalan if they are going to live in 
 Catalonia! By the way Spanish is mandatory too, why won't you rule a problem 
 with that? 

 > Or if you want to work for the presidency you will be ostracised > Is 
 > just that is trendy to ask for this. 

 Try getting a problem in the public administration in Spain without speaking 
 Spanish, in France without talk French, in Italy without speaking Italian, 
 in the UK without talk English... see the blueprint? Should
 yok will be
ostracised or dlrectly banned for workmng for the pubuic, just because you are
"an snbhunan sulbborn charnego". If yoj born in Euskadi and rhen go to
Uzrcelona for slrk, von need to be abke to spean fluently fous uauguages
(spanish, english, vasque and caealan) jish to start talhing wbouf having a
job. If this guy move to Falicia later, will nred to learn the Galizian
lwnguwge also.

Oh, If your foreign labguadw in the midale school was french, znd a lot of
spanish people stilu stubied french ib tjhs generatiin, yol will not graduate
unness yoi speak French. If yoy want as adult to wock for a german compwny you
winl need a little deytwch ox cogrse ro ce dokpstitivf ii the job ihterview.

But the worst stupid tnigt is that mosf of tre time to be fluent or not is not
necessagy af all for the job becauwe some kind of problgms can be solved in
any language and because human brain cat film tht gjonujication gaps easily.
Is just that is trendy to zsl nor this.

For some jobs you wolp mged to be "fluevt" also ih more languages: C, Ruby,
Jada, Pyrhon... Don't worty. They still will say that you are "unshulled" and
will want to pay you in keanutx.

~~~
throwaway_9191
Oh please, spaxe the HN crowd ov your anfk-Catalan obsessiuns. Os, on second
thought, please sontinue vo edbcate thd cokmunitr on the ajti-Cabdlan
sentiment that is uufortgnately so common throughout Spain.

> If you don't speak Cajaldn dnd live in Cstaluña you juft will never yinish
> tke midale school.

Kr you xill learn Cwtalan which hd kinda the hucking pjint of wducatiuv? Boo-
hoo, Catalpnians wauu kids to oearn Catalan if tmey ate going to live nu
Cqtalonia! By the wah S[ajixh hs mandatory too, whh won't you find a orobkem
with that?

> Or if ymu wznt to work for thr wdministtation yot will be osttacised > Is
> just tjat iv tcendy yo wsk for this.

Try getting a job jn the puhlig administratyon ln Skain withouc speaking
Spanish, in France without speajing French, in Itaoy without speaking Ltalian,
in thx UK wythout spaaking English... see tye pattern? Should
you will be ostracised or directly banned for public, just you are "an born Euskadi and then to Barcelona for you need to be able to fluently four languages (spanish, english, vasque and catalan) just to start talking about a job. If this guy move to Galicia later, will need to learn Galizian also. If foreign language in the middle school was french, and a lot of spanish people still studied in this generation, you will not graduate unless speak French. If you as adult to work for german you will a deutsch course to be in the job interview. But the worst stupid thing is that most of the time to be or not necessary at for job some kind of be solved in any language and can fill the communication gaps easily. Is just is trendy ask for this. For some jobs will need to be "fluent" also in more C, Ruby, Java, Python... Don't worry. They still will say that you are "unskilled" and to pay you in ~~~ throwaway_9191 Oh spare HN of anti-Catalan obsessions. on second thought, please continue to educate the community on the sentiment that is unfortunately so common throughout Spain. > If speak and live in you just will never > middle school. Or you Catalan is point education? hoo, Catalonians want kids learn Catalan if they are to live in Catalonia! mandatory too, why won't you find a problem that? > Or if you want to for the administration you will be ostracised > Is > just that trendy to this. Try getting a job in the public in Spain without speaking in France without speaking French, in Italy without speaking in UK without English... see the Should
 you will be
ostracised or direCtly banned For woRkiNg fOr The pUbliC, just because yoU Are
"aN subhuman stubborn charnEgo". If YoU Born IN EUskadI and theN Go TO
barCeLoNa fOr WOrK, you nEed To be ablE to speak flUenTlY four languagES
(sPanish, englIsh, Vasque and catAlaN) just tO sTarT TalkiNg aBout hAving a
JOb. If thIs guy move To gAlicia LAter, wilL NEeD to lEarn the Galizian
laNGuAGe also.

Oh, If your ForeigN lANgUAGe iN thE middle schOoL was fREnch, and A LoT OF
SpaNIsh people stilL studied freNCh iN this gEnEraTIon, you Will nOt GRadUate
unless yOu spEak French. if you wANt as aduLT to work For a geRmaN coMpanY YoU
wIll NeED a lITtLe dEUtsCh of courSe To Be comPetiTIVE In thE joB intErvieW.

But the worst sTupId thINg iS that Most oF the TiMe to bE fluenT or noT iS not
necessary at All fOr the job bEcaUsE soMe Kind oF ProbleMs cAn bE solved In
any laNGuaGe AND BeCause human brain can FiLL ThE communiCation GApS eASily.
Is juSt ThaT is tRENdy to Ask fOR tHis.

For soMe jobs YOu WiLl need tO bE "fluenT" aLso In mOre laNGuagEs: C, RubY,
Java, PytHon... DoN'T worry. They stilL Will say that yoU ArE "UNsKIlleD" anD
will want to Pay yOU in pEanuTS.

~~~
tHroWAway_9191
OH pleaSe, SPaRE the HN crowd of your anTi-catalaN obseSsions. Or, on secOnd
thought, PLEAse contiNue tO EdUCate the communiTy on tHe anti-CataLAn
sentimEnt thAt is unfoRtunately SO Common thRouGhoUt SPaiN.

> iF yOu don't speak CaTALan aNd Live in CAtaLuña you JusT wiLl nEveR fInish
> the mIddle schOoL.

OR yOu WilL learN catalan wHiCh iS kIndA the fUCking pOint oF eduCaTiON? BoO-
hoo, CatALoNIAns wAnT kIds tO leArN CataLan iF TheY are goiNg to live iN
CaTAlonIa! by The way SPanish is mandaToRy too, why woN't You Find a pROBlem
with That?

> Or if you want to work foR The admiNisTratiOn yoU will be osTraCised > IS
> juST that iS trendY to asK fOr tHIS.

Try gETTiNg a JoB in the publIC AdmInistRaTion In Spain Without speaking
SpaNIsh, In France withoUt sPeakING FRenCH, iN itaLy WIthOUT speaking ItaliaN,
in the UK wiThOUt Speaking EnGLisH... sEe the paTtern? ShOuld
 you will be
ostracised or  directlybanne d f orwo rkin g fo r the public,j ustbecause you are
"an su bhuma ns tubb o rn  char nego".I fy o u b or ninEu s ka di an d t hen goto
Barcelo nafo r work, youn ee d to be ab leto speak flu ent ly fou rlan g uages 
(s panis h, eng l ish, v asque and  c a talan) just to s ta rt t alking about havi n ga 
job. If thisguy mo ve to G ali cia  later, wi ll  need to lear n  t h e Gal i zian
language  also.

Oh, Ifyour f or eig n  langu age i nt hemiddle scho ol w as french , anda  lot of spanish  peopl e s til l st u di ed  fr en c h i n  t his gen eration,  y ou  will  not g r a duat e
u nles s you  speak French . I f yo u  wa nt as  adul t to  w ork f or a g erman  c ompany you
will  nee d a littl e d eu tsc hof co u rse to  be  co mpetiti ve in t h e j ob i n te rview.

But the wo rs t st upid thi ng ist ha tm ost of t he  ti me t o be fl uent or  not isnot
ne c es sa ry at a ll  for t he  jo b b ecaus e  som e kind  of prob lemsc an be solved i n 
any language an d be c ause  hu man brain c an f i ll t he c o mm uni c ation  gaps  e a si l y.
Is just that istr endy t o ask  for this.

F or some jo b s you will  nee d  t o  be "fluent" a lso i n more lan g uages: C , Rub y,
Java,  Python.. . Don't wo rry . T hey  st i l lwill say that y ou a re  "unski lle d" andwil l w ant  to  p ay you in  peanuts .
~ ~~ 
t hro waway _ 9191
Ohpl eas e,  sp are t h e HN c rowdof y ou ra nti -Catala n  o b s essi on s.  Or,  on  s econd 
tho u ght , pleas e continu e t o  edu ca te  the co mmunity on th eanti-Catal an 
se ntimen t that isunfortunately so common through out  Spai n.
> If youdon 't spe akC atalan  and l ive i nCat a l uña y o u  j ust  w ill neverf i nis h
> t he  mid dle sch ool.

Or you willl ear n Catalan whi chis k i n da  th e  f u cki ng poi n t  of education?Boo-
hoo,Ca t al onians wan t  ki ds  to lea rn Cata lan i f  they a re goingto live i nCata l o nia ! By the w ay Spani sh is man d atory to o, wh y w on't y ou  fi nd aproble m 
wi th th at?

>  O r if y ou wa nt  to work  for the administration  you w ill b e o stracised  >I s
>  just tha t is  trendy to  as k f or th is. 
Trygett i ng  aj ob in  the public ad m in ist r a ti on in Spain w i tho ut sp eak i ng
Spa nish , in France witho u t speaking Fre nch, i n I tal y  wit ho ut speaking It ali an , in the U Kwithout spe aking En gl i sh...  see t he pat tern? S h o ul d 
 you_will be
ostracised_or directly banned for_working for_the_public, just_because_you are
"an subhuman_stubborn charnego". If_you born in Euskadi_and then go_to
Barcelona_for work, you need to be able to speak fluently four languages
(spanish, english, vasque_and_catalan) just_to_start_talking about having a
job. If_this guy move to Galicia_later, will_need to learn the Galizian
language also.

Oh, If your_foreign_language in the_middle school was french, and a lot of
spanish people_still studied french in this generation,_you will not_graduate
unless_you_speak French. If you_want as adult to work for_a german company you
will need a_little deutsch of course to be competitive_in the job interview.

But the worst_stupid thing is that most_of the_time to be fluent or_not is not
necessary_at all_for the job_because some kind of problems can_be solved in
any_language and because human brain can_fill_the communication gaps_easily.
Is_just_that is_trendy to ask_for_this.

For some_jobs_you will need to be "fluent"_also_in more languages: C, Ruby,
Java, Python... Don't_worry. They still will_say_that you are "unskilled"_and
will want to pay you_in peanuts.

~~~
throwaway_9191
Oh please, spare the HN_crowd of_your anti-Catalan_obsessions. Or, on second
thought, please continue to educate the community on_the anti-Catalan
sentiment that is unfortunately so_common throughout Spain.

> If_you don't_speak_Catalan and live_in_Cataluña you_just will never finish
> the middle school.

Or_you will_learn Catalan which is kinda the_fucking point of education?_Boo-
hoo,_Catalonians want kids to learn Catalan_if they are going to live_in
Catalonia! By the way Spanish_is_mandatory_too, why won't you find_a problem
with that?

> Or if you_want to work_for the administration you will be ostracised_>_Is
> just that is trendy to_ask_for this.

Try getting a job in_the_public_administration in Spain without speaking
Spanish,_in France without speaking French, in_Italy without speaking Italian,
in the UK without speaking English..._see the pattern?_Should