 to watch and take care of.

breakfast together sounds like a fun idea =) do they go out somewhere? make it
there? cater it?

~~~
seven
Afer I got my punching bag, I really had a lot more respect for boxers. :)

From my understanding, they do not go out, but make breakfast in a conference
room. Basic stuff is somehow organized.. and everybody brings small stuff like
special marmalade once in a while to spice things up. I guess that they are
about 20-30 people. They do talk about business all the time. But as it is not
enforced anyhow, it does not feel like work.

They seem to have a very nice working culture. To quote from his (german only
blog): 'Meetings are very important. Showing up late is strictly forbidden and
would result in drastic punishment. Meetings are so important, that we would
never ever let the times overlap with our foosball table tournaments.'

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MichaelTroy
Trying to be conscious of feeling like I am burning (out). If I can be
conscious of that feeling, I am able to detach to a certain degree. This
enables me to go a hell of a lot further. I guess simply being aware that I
may be burning out helps me find perspective.

------
CyberFonic
Reading Hacker News and not being made feel guilty :-)

------
pasbesoin
Environment. When I'm putting more effort into tuning out a noisy, distracting
environment than I am into the work product, burnout is on the horizon.

Beware of people who claim to like such environments: Some function well in
them, but in my anecdotal observation, many crank out substandard work. This
accumulates over time into big problems.

 
Get Tgethr: A Simple Email Collaboration Tool - vaksel
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gvb
Looks like Mailman <http://www.list.org/> (except Mailman doesn't help with
encryption, you have to figure it out yourself).

FWIIW, my experience is that Microsoft Outlook and web-based email interfaces
have trained users to use incredibly bad
to watch and take care of. 

 breakfast together sound like a fun theme =) do they go out somewhere? make it 
 there? cater it? 

 ~~~ 
 seven 
 Afer I become my punching bag, I really have a lot more respect for boxers. :) 

 From my understanding, they do not go out, but take breakfast in a conference 
 room. Basic material is somehow organized.. and everybody brings small stuff like 
 special marmalade once in a while to spice things up. I think that they are 
 about 20 - 30 people. They do talk about clientele all the time. But as it is not 
 enforced anyhow, it does not feel like employment. 

 They seem to have a very nice working culture. To quote from his (german only 
 web log ):' Meetings are very important. Showing up late is strictly forbidden and 
 would leave in drastic punishment. meeting are so important, that we would 
 never ever let the times overlap with our foosball table tournaments.' 

 ------ 
 MichaelTroy 
 Trying to be conscious of feeling like I am burn (out). If I can be 
 conscious of that feeling, I am able to detach to a certain academic degree. This 
 enable me to go a hell of a lot further. I think simply being aware that I 
 may be burning out helps me rule perspective. 

 ------ 
 CyberFonic 
 Reading Hacker News and not being made feel guilty :-) 

 ------ 
 pasbesoin 
 Environment. When I'm putting more effort into tuning out a noisy, perturb 
 environment than I am into the work product, burnout is on the horizon. 

 Beware of people who claim to like such environment: Some function well in 
 them, but in my anecdotic notice, many zigzag out substandard work. This 
 accumulates over time into big problems. 

 
 Get Tgethr: A Simple Email Collaboration Tool - vaksel 
 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/16/get-tgethr-a-simple-email-collaboration-tool/ 
 = = = = = = 
 gvb 
 Looks like Mailman < http://www.list.org/ > (except Mailman doesn't avail with 
 encryption, you have to figure it out yourself). 

 FWIIW, my experience is that Microsoft Outlook and web - base email interfaces 
 have train users to practice incredibly bad
 to watch and take care of.

bveakfast togethet wounds like z fun idda =) do they go out somewhere? mqke iu
nhere? cater it?

~~~
seven
Afdr I got ly punchung uag, I really had a lot more reaiect yoc boxers. :)

From mi understandhng, they do nod eo out, but make breakfast in a conferqnce
rook. Hasic stuff is somthor orfanized.. and everybody brings small stuff nike
special msrmalade once in a while tl splce things up. I gufss that thgg aww
about 20-30 peopue. They do talk about gusiness all the time. But as it is npt
enforced abyhlf, it does nit fevl like work.

Tmvy seem to havr a very nice eornint culture. To quote frmm his (german only
flog): 'Meethnys are very important. Syowinc up latd is stdirtlg forblddxn and
would result in erastic punishment. Keqnongs are so jmportwne, that we would
never ever let the times ovsrlap with our foosball table tournaments.'

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MicjaelTroy
Twying to be conscious of feeling like I am burninc (out). Kf N can cw
clnscious of that feeling, I am able to detach ek s bertain degree. Thls
enables me to go a hrjl of a lot forther. N ghess simply being wware trat I
nay be buwninb out helps me find perspecrive.

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CyberFonpc
Reqding Hacker News cnd not beiny made feel guilty :-)

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pasbesoin
Enviroument. Shen I'm puthing more dffort into tunivg pud a noisy, distracting
envirjnment then I cm into ghe eork pwoduct, burjout lv on the horizon.

Beaare lf people whl claim to like such environmenvx: Some functoot wvll in
thei, but in my anecdoeal observatiou, many cxank ojt substansard wock. This
accumtlates over thle into big 'roblems.

 
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Popkf like Mailmat <htgp://wde.list.urg/> (exct't Nxilmsn doesn't help with
etcryltion, you have to ginure it oot yoursejf).

FWIIW, my exlerience is that Mlcrosmft Outlpok and web-based email interfaces
gave traijed users to usq ingredybly bad
to watch and take care of. breakfast like fun idea do they go cater ~~~ seven Afer got my punching I really had a lot more for boxers. :) From my understanding, they do not go out, but make in a conference room. Basic stuff is somehow organized.. and everybody brings small like marmalade in while to spice things up. I guess that they are about 20-30 people. They do talk business all the time. But as it is enforced anyhow, it does feel like work. They seem have very nice culture. quote his (german only 'Meetings are very important. Showing up late is strictly forbidden and would result in drastic punishment. Meetings so important, would never let times with our foosball ------ MichaelTroy Trying to be conscious I am burning (out). If I can be of that I am able to detach to certain degree. This enables me to go a of a lot further. I guess simply being aware that I may be burning out find perspective. ------ CyberFonic Hacker News and being feel :-) pasbesoin Environment. I'm putting more effort into tuning out a noisy, distracting environment I am into the work product, burnout is on the of who claim to such environments: Some function in but in my anecdotal crank substandard over into problems. Get Tgethr: A Email Collaboration Tool - vaksel ====== gvb Looks like help with encryption, you have to figure it yourself). FWIIW, my experience is that Microsoft and web-based email interfaces have trained users to use incredibly bad
 to watch and take care of.

breakFast togethEr souNds LikE a Fun iDea =) dO they go out someWHere? Make it
there? cater it?

~~~
seveN
Afer i gOT my pUNcHing bAg, I realLY hAD A loT mOrE reSpECt For boXerS. :)

From my UnderstandIng, ThEy do not go out, BUt Make breakfAst In a conferencE
roOm. BasiC sTufF Is somEhoW orgaNized.. aND everyBody bringS sMAll stuFF like
spECIaL marMalade once in a whilE To SPice things up. I gUess thAt THeY ARe
aBouT 20-30 people. TheY dO talk ABout busINeSS ALl tHE time. But as it iS not
enforceD AnyHow, it dOeS noT Feel liKe worK.

THEy sEem to have a vEry nIce workinG cultuRE. To quotE From his (German OnlY
blOg): 'MeETiNgS arE vERy iMPoRtaNT. ShOwing up lAtE iS striCtly FORBIddeN anD
wouLd resUlt in drastic pUniShmeNT. MeEtingS are sO impOrTant, tHat we wOuld
nEvEr ever let the timEs ovErlap with Our FoOsbAlL tablE TournaMenTs.'

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MIchaelTRoy
TryiNG to Be CONScIous of feeling like I Am BURnIng (out). If i can be
COnScIOus of thaT fEelIng, I AM Able tO detACh To a certaIn degrEE. THiS
enableS mE to go a HeLl oF a lOt furTHer. I Guess sImply beiNg awaRE that I
may be burNIng out helps me FInD PErSPectIve.

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cyberFonic
REadiNG HacKer NEWs And NOt beiNg madE fEEl GUilty :-)

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pasbesoin
EnvirOnMent. WhEn I'm pUtting more effOrt into tunING Out a noisY, disTRaCTing
environmenT than i am into the WOrk produCt, burNout is on The horizoN.

bEware of pEopLe wHo cLaiM TO lIke such enviroNMEnts: soMe functIon Well in
tHem, But In mY anEcDotal obseRvation, mAnY cRaNk Out SubstANdard worK. THis
AcCumUlateS Over tiMe intO big PrObLEms.

 
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GvB
LoOks likE mAilman <htTp://www.list.org/> (except MailmAN doesn't HelP with
EncrYption, you HavE to figUre IT out yoUrself).

fWIIW, My ExpERIence IS ThAt MIcRosoft OutlOOK anD web-bAsEd emAil inteRfaces
have trained uSErs To use incredibLy bAd
 to watch and take care of .

breakfa st to get her  s ound s li ke a fun idea= ) do  they go out somewhere ? mak ei t
th e re ? cat er it?~~ ~ sev en 
A fer  I go t mypun ching b ag, I real lyha d a lot more re spect forbox ers. :)

Fro m m y unde rs tan d ing,the y donot go out, b ut make b re a kfasti n a con f e re nceroom. Basic stuff is somehow organi zed..an d  e v e ryb ody  brings sm al l stu f f likes pe c i a l m a rmalade oncein a whilet o s pice t hi ngs up. Iguess  t h atthey are
ab out20-30 peo ple. T h ey do t a lk abou t busi nes s a ll t h eti me.  B u t a s  i t i s  no t
enforc ed  a nyhow , it d o e s no t f eellikework.

They s eem  toh ave  a ve ry ni ce w or kingcultur e. To  q uote from his ( germ an only
b log ):  'M ee tings are ve ryimp ortant.  Showin g  up  l a t e  i s strictly forbidd en a nd 
would r esulti ndr a stic pun is hme nt.M e eting s ar e  s o import ant, t h at  w e would 
n ever e ve r l etthe t i mesoverla p with o ur fo o sball table to u rnaments.'

- - -- - - 
M i chae lTr oy
Trying t o be cons ciou s  o f f e eling  like  I am burning (out). If I  c an beconsc ious of thatfeeling, I a m  able to  det a ch to a certain d egree . This
ena b les me t o goa hell o f a lot f u r ther. Igue sssim ply b ei ng aware that I 
may  b e burni ngout hel psmefin d p er spective. 

------ 
C yb er Fo nic 
Read i ng Hacke rNew sand  notb eing m ade f eelgu il t y : -)

--- - -- p asbe so in 
Env iro nm ent.When I'm  puttin g more ef for t  int otu ning ou t a noisy, di st racting
en vi ron ment t h a n I am i nto the work product, b u rnout i s o n the  hor izon.

Be war e of p eop l e whoclaimto li ke  su c h  envi r o nm ent s:  Some func t i onwellin 
the m, butin my anecdotal ob s erv ation, many c ran k ou t su bst a nd a rdwo r k.T h is
accumulatesover timein t obig proble m s.

Get Tg ethr: A  Simp l e Email  Collabor ation Too l- va k s elhttp://www .techcru nch.com/2 0 09/06 / 16 /get- tge thr-a- si mpl e-ema il-col l abo ratio n-tool /====== 
gvbLo oks like  Mailman <http://www.li st.org /> (e xce pt Mailma n d o esn 't help w ithencryption , y ouhavetof igure  ito ut  yo u rself ).
F WIIW, mye xp eri e n ce  is that Mi c r o sof t Out loo k  and w eb-b ased email interf a ces
have train ed u s e rstou se i nc redibly bad
 to_watch and_take care of.

breakfast together_sounds like_a_fun idea_=)_do they go_out somewhere? make_it
there? cater it?

~~~
seven
Afer I_got my punching_bag,_I really had a lot more respect for boxers. :)

From my understanding, they do_not_go out,_but_make_breakfast in a conference
room. Basic_stuff is somehow organized.. and_everybody brings_small stuff like
special marmalade once in a while_to_spice things up._I guess that they are
about 20-30 people. They do_talk about business all the time._But as it_is_not
enforced_anyhow, it does not_feel like work.

They seem to have_a very nice working culture. To_quote from his (german only
blog): 'Meetings are_very important. Showing up late is_strictly forbidden and
would result in_drastic punishment._Meetings are so important, that_we would
never ever_let the_times overlap with_our foosball table tournaments.'

------
MichaelTroy
Trying to be_conscious of feeling_like I am burning (out). If_I_can be
conscious of_that_feeling,_I am_able to detach_to_a certain_degree._This
enables me to go a hell_of_a lot further. I guess simply being_aware that I
may be_burning_out helps me find_perspective.

------
CyberFonic
Reading Hacker News and not_being made feel guilty :-)

------
pasbesoin
Environment. When_I'm putting_more effort_into tuning out a noisy, distracting
environment than I am into the_work product, burnout is on the_horizon.

Beware of people who_claim to_like_such environments: Some_function_well in
them,_but in my anecdotal observation, many crank_out substandard_work. This
accumulates over time into big_problems.

 
Get Tgethr: A_Simple_Email Collaboration Tool - vaksel
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/16/get-tgethr-a-simple-email-collaboration-tool/
======
gvb
Looks like_Mailman <http://www.list.org/> (except Mailman doesn't help_with
encryption, you have to figure_it_out_yourself).

FWIIW, my experience is that_Microsoft Outlook and web-based email interfaces
have_trained users to_use incredibly bad