 have to
learn ___", eventually you'll start slipping and end up hacking PHP Wordpress
installs somewhere for subpar wages if you're employed at all. If you seek out
new things to push yourself because it's enjoyable keeping up is intuitive and
easy. Even stuff you may never use for your job can teach you new ways of
thinking.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to go back to playing with RUST.

~~~
guelo
With the speed of technology changes I think it's pretty hard for programmers
to get stuck in the exact same rut for 10 years.

Using your example of C#, there has been huge changes in the last 10 years to
the point that it's barely the same language.

Even if you imagine the most staid company that refuses to upgrade their tech
stack, the last 10 years has seen so many changes in the web and mobile that
it's hard to imagine that there hasn't been some pressure on even the most
unmotivated programmer to learn new skills.

~~~
JeremyMorgan
That's why I mentioned iterative changes, such as the changes to C# over the
last 10 years. Just because they started using generics at some point doesn't
mean they've been learning anything to drastically improve their code.

It's very easy to sit at a company building calendar apps for ten years and
fall behind the rest of the world. I see it every day.

------
peterwwillis
This is a _very_ long way of saying: you should learn new skills, and practice
the skills that you think will be valuable by the time you need to get a new
job.

Practice isn't rocket science... heck, just practice different kinds of
programming. You'll naturally improve at everything because it all relates to
each other. To borrow from his football and music examples, even practicing
dance will make you a better football player, and so will playing the drums
for a cellist.

------
yellowapple
Yet another reminder about how remarkably similar programming and musicianship
are in mentality and artistry. It's no wonder that I enjoy both :)

------
antichaos
(2005)

~~~
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Updated, thanks.

 

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have to 
 learn _ _ _ ", eventually you'll start skid and end up hack PHP Wordpress 
 installs somewhere for subpar wages if you're employed at wholly. If you seek out 
 new things to advertise yourself because it's enjoyable keeping up is intuitive and 
 easy. Even material you may never practice for your job can teach you new way of 
 thinking. 

 Now if you'll excuse me I need to run back to playing with RUST. 

 ~~~ 
 guelo 
 With the speed of technology change I think it's pretty hard for programmer 
 to get stuck in the accurate same estrus for 10 years. 

 Using your example of C #, there has been huge changes in the last 10 class to 
 the point that it's barely the same language. 

 Even if you imagine the most staid company that refuses to upgrade their tech 
 stack, the last 10 years has seen so many changes in the vane and mobile that 
 it's hard to imagine that there hasn't been some atmospheric pressure on even the most 
 unmotivated programmer to learn new skills. 

 ~~~ 
 JeremyMorgan 
 That's why I mention iterative changes, such as the changes to C # over the 
 last 10 class. Just because they started using generics at some point doesn't 
 mean they've been determine anything to drastically improve their code. 

 It's very easy to sit at a company construction calendar apps for ten years and 
 hang behind the rest of the world. I see it every day. 

 ------ 
 peterwwillis 
 This is a _ very _ long direction of saying: you should learn new skill, and practice 
 the skills that you think will be valuable by the time you want to get a raw 
 job. 

 Practice isn't rocket skill... heck, just practice different kinds of 
 scheduling. You'll naturally improve at everything because it all relates to 
 each early. To borrow from his football and music examples, even practicing 
 dance will make you a well football player, and so will playing the drums 
 for a cellist. 

 ------ 
 yellowapple 
 Yet another reminder about how remarkably similar scheduling and musicianship 
 are in mentality and artistry. It's no curiosity that I enjoy both :) 

 ------ 
 antichaos 
 (2005) 

 ~~~ 
 sctb 
 Updated, thanks. 

 

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learn ___", eventually yuu'll start slipkibg and end ul hackine PHP Wordpress
installs somexherw for subpar wages if you're employed at all. Uf yiy seek out
isw thinnf to iush vonrself because lt's enjoyabne keeping up hs iutuitive and
easy. Even stuff you may gever uxe for your job san ueash ykl kew ways of
thinking.

Now if you'll sxcuse ke I need to bo back to playing with RUDT.

~~~
guflo
With the speed lf technoloty crqnges I thiny it's pretuy hard for krogrammers
to get stuck in the ebact xame rut fir 10 yfdrs.

Using yonr exaiple of C#, thcge has teen hube changes in bhe lest 10 years to
the point thet it's barely the saie languace.

Zven if you imagine tye most stahd cunpavy uhav rsfuses to upgrade tgeir tech
stqck, the last 10 years hww seen so mang chandef in the web and mobile that
it's hard to imzgine that there hasn't veen some pressure on even the most
unmotivated programmer to learn new skills.

~~~
JesemyMkfgau
Bmat's qhj I mentioned iterative changes, such as the crznbex to C# over thc
last 10 years. Just nefaife they startgd usiny gsnerics at some polnt doefn't
meqn they've beem learning anything to drasrically imprjce their code.

It's vzry easy to rit st a vompany building calendcr appa for ten yfars and
fzul behind the rert pf the world. I see it every qay.

------
peterwxillix
This ir a _fery_ ljng way of sayikc: you should learn new dkhlls, and pgactice
the skills that you think will be valusbne ty the tnme yom need to get a new
job.

Practicg isn't roeket szience... heci, just 'ractice difserent kinds mv
programming. You'll nwturqlly improvd at everything because pt all relates to
each otmer. Tu borrow from hiw fiotball and musoc dxaippex, qeen practicitg
davce eill oake you a netger gootball player, and vo wjll playing the drimf
for a cgllist.

------
yeljowapple
Yet amother reminder ablut hmw cemarksbli similar programming and musicjanship
arf ik mentality agd avtisjry. It's no conder that I enjoy both :)

------
antichaos
(2005)

~~~
sctb
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have to learn ___", eventually you'll start end hacking PHP installs somewhere for at If you seek new things to yourself because it's enjoyable keeping up intuitive and easy. Even stuff you may never use for your job can you new ways of thinking. Now if you'll excuse me I need to back playing RUST. guelo With the speed of technology changes I think it's pretty hard for programmers to get in the exact same rut for 10 years. your example of C#, has been huge changes in last years to point it's the same language. if you imagine the most staid company that refuses to upgrade their tech stack, the last 10 has seen changes in web mobile it's hard to there hasn't been some pressure on unmotivated programmer to learn new skills. ~~~ JeremyMorgan why I iterative changes, such as the changes C# over the last 10 years. Just because started using generics at some point doesn't mean they've been learning anything to drastically improve It's very easy to at a company calendar for years fall behind rest of the world. I see it every day. ------ peterwwillis is a _very_ long way of saying: you should learn and the skills that think will be valuable the you need to get job. isn't just different of programming. You'll naturally at everything because it all to each other. To music examples, even practicing dance will make you better football player, and so will playing drums for a cellist. ------ yellowapple Yet another reminder about how remarkably programming and in mentality and artistry. It's no wonder that enjoy both :) ------ (2005) ~~~ sctb Updated, thanks. EC2 High Memory Cluster Extra Instance (244 RAM) - jeffbarr
 have to
learn ___", eventually you'lL start slipPing aNd eNd uP hAckiNg PHp Wordpress
instALls sOmewhere for subpar wages If you'Re EMploYEd At all. if you seEK oUT
New ThInGs tO pUSh YoursElf Because It's enjoyabLe kEePing up is intuITiVe and
easy. EVen Stuff you may nEveR use foR yOur JOb can TeaCh you New wayS Of
thinKing.

Now if YoU'Ll excuSE me I neeD TO gO bacK to playing with RUSt.

~~~
GuELo
With the speed Of techNoLOgY CHanGes i think it's pReTty haRD for proGRaMMERs
tO Get stuck in the Exact same ruT For 10 Years.

USiNg yOUr examPle of c#, tHEre Has been huge ChanGes in the lAst 10 yeaRS to
the pOInt that It's barEly The Same LAnGuAge.

evEN if YOu ImaGIne The most sTaId CompaNy thAT REFuseS to UpgrAde thEir tech
stack, tHe lAst 10 yEArs Has seEn so mAny cHaNges iN the weB and mObIle that
it's hard tO imaGine that tHerE hAsn'T bEen soME pressUre On eVen the mOst
unmoTIvaTeD PROgRammer to learn new skIlLS.

~~~
jeRemyMorgAn
That'S WhY I MEntioned ItEraTive CHAnges, Such AS tHe changeS to C# ovER tHe
Last 10 yeaRs. just beCaUse TheY starTEd usIng genErics at sOme poINt doesn't
mean thEY've been learniNG aNYThINg to DraStically impRove THeir Code.

iT's VerY Easy tO sit aT a COmPAny building calendar ApPs for tEn yeaRs and
fall behiNd the rest oF THE world. I sEe it EVeRY day.

------
peterwwillIs
ThiS is a _very_ loNG way of saYing: yOu should Learn new sKILls, and prActIce
The SkiLLS tHat you think wiLL Be vaLuAble by tHe tIme you nEed To gEt a New
JoB.

Practice Isn't rockEt ScIeNcE... heCk, jusT Practice DiFfeReNt kInds oF
PrograMming. you'lL nAtURalLy improVE aT EVeryThInG becAusE iT all rElatES to
Each othEr. To borroW frOM his FoOtBall and Music examples, EvEn practiciNg
DanCe will MAKe you a beTter football player, and so WIll playIng The drUms
fOr a cellisT.

------
yeLlowapPle
yEt anotHer remInder AbOut HOW remaRKAbLy sImIlar prograMMIng And muSiCianShip
are In mentality and artiSTry. it's no wonder thAt I EnjoY BOtH :)

------
anTIcHAos
(2005)

~~~
ScTB
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HTtp://
 have to
learn ___", event ually you' ll st art  sl ip ping  and  end up hackin g  PHP  Wordpress
installs so mewhe re fors ub par w ages if yo u ' reem pl oye da tall.Ifyou see k out
newthi ng s to push yo u rs elf becaus e i t's enjoyabl e k eeping  u p i s  intu iti ve an d
easy .  Evenstuff you  m a y neve r  use fo r yo ur j ob can teach youn ew ways of
thinki ng.

N ow if y ou' llexcuse meIneedt o go ba c kt o pla y ing with RUST .

~~~
guel o 
Wi th the  s pee d  of te chnol og y  ch anges I thi nk i t's prett y hard for pro g rammers 
to ge t s tuc k in th eexa ct sam e  r utf or10 years .
U singyour e x a mple  of  C#,  ther e has been hu gechan g esin th e las t 10  y earsto
the  poin tthat it's barel y th e same la ngu ag e.
E ven i f  you i mag ine  the mo st stai d  co mp a n y  t hat refuses to upg ra d e  t heir tec h
stac k ,th e  last 10  y ear s ha s seenso m a ny  changes  in th e  w eb  and mo bi le tha tit' s h ard t o  ima gine t hat ther e has n 't been some p r essure on eve n  t h e  m o st
u nmo tivated pro gram m er t o le a rn  ne w  skil ls.
~~ ~ 
J e remyMorgan
That's w hy  I men tione d iterative c hanges, su c h as the c hang e st o C# over thelast10 years.J ust beca use t hey star ted using g enericsatsom e p oin t do esn't
mean th e y 'vebe en lear nin g anyth ing  to  dr ast ic ally impr ove thei rco de .
It 's ve r y easy t osit  a t a  comp a ny bui lding  cal en da r  ap ps fort en y ears  a nd 
fal l b eh ind t he r e stof theworld. Isee it e ve ry  day.
------
peterw wi llis
Thisis  a_very_ l ong wayof saying: you should l e arn new  sk ills,  and  practice 
th e skil lst hat yo u thin k wil lbev a luabl e by  th etime you n e e d t o get  a  new 
job.
Practice isn't roc k etscience... he ck,  jus t pr act i ce dif fe r ent k inds of
program ming. You' ll na turally im p rov eat ever ythingbecau s e it al l relates  to
eachot her. T o b orrow from  his foo tball and music ex ample s,even p ra cti cingdancew ill  make  you a  b etterfootb al l player , and so will playing t he dru ms
fo r a  cellist. 

- - --- -
yellowa pple 
Yet anoth errem inder  ab o ut ho w re m ar kab l y sim ilar programmi n gand m us icianship
a r e inmenta lit y  and a rtis try. It's no wond e r that I enjoy  bot h :)
-- - ---an tichaos
(2005) 

~ ~~ s ctb
Upda te d, thanks.
 

EC2Hi g h Mem ory Cl usterEight E x t ra LargeInst anc e (244 Gi B R AM )  - jeff ba rr http:/ /
 have_to
learn ___",_eventually you'll start slipping_and end_up_hacking PHP_Wordpress
installs_somewhere for subpar_wages if you're_employed at all. If_you seek out
new_things_to push yourself because it's enjoyable keeping up is intuitive and
easy. Even stuff you_may_never use_for_your_job can teach you new_ways of
thinking.

Now if you'll excuse_me I_need to go back to playing with RUST.

~~~
guelo
With_the_speed of technology_changes I think it's pretty hard for programmers
to get_stuck in the exact same rut_for 10 years.

Using_your_example_of C#, there has_been huge changes in the last_10 years to
the point that it's_barely the same language.

Even if you imagine_the most staid company that refuses_to upgrade their tech
stack, the_last 10_years has seen so many_changes in the_web and_mobile that
it's hard_to imagine that there hasn't been_some pressure on_even the most
unmotivated programmer to learn_new_skills.

~~~
JeremyMorgan
That's why I_mentioned_iterative_changes, such_as the changes_to_C# over_the
last_10 years. Just because they started_using_generics at some point doesn't
mean they've been_learning anything to drastically_improve_their code.

It's very easy_to sit at a company_building calendar apps for ten years_and
fall behind_the rest_of the world. I see it every day.

------
peterwwillis
This is a _very__long way of saying: you should_learn new skills, and_practice
the skills_that_you think will_be_valuable by_the time you need to get a_new
job.

Practice isn't_rocket science... heck, just practice different_kinds of
programming. You'll naturally_improve_at everything because it all relates_to
each other. To borrow from his_football and music examples, even_practicing
dance_will_make you a better football_player, and so will playing the_drums
for a cellist.

------
yellowapple
Yet_another reminder about how remarkably similar programming_and_musicianship
are in mentality and artistry. It's_no_wonder that I enjoy both :)

------
antichaos
(2005)

~~~
sctb
Updated,_thanks.

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