 hand it off
to have it "programmed". That almost never works and yet it's by far the most
common method. People who think this is a good practice should be no where
near the helm of a technology company.

Some web companies are not technology companies though. I think the "biz guy"
approach works for those -- occasionally. Digg was a cheap project on elance.
The success for that site was more about a TechTV/Kevin Rose community.
MySpace is similar.

Facebook a non-technology company becoming one.

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keiretsu
i think most of the business fogeys don't understand the importance of having
your own in house technical team. these fogeys actually think outsourcing
development to offshore teams is the best way to go.

Right. Technology is the lifeblood of most successful web startups. So when
was it good to outsource your lifeblood to a bunch of unknowns miles away?

 
Ask HN: What is the issuer of the icloud.com certificate by you? - acqq
What do you see when you view the certificate of icloud.com? At this moment, I see this chain: &quot;DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA&quot; &quot; DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA&quot; &quot;www.icloud.com&quot; Valid from &quot;‎07 ‎February ‎2018 01:00:00&quot;, sha1 thumbprint: &quot;‎66 de 98 b6 3a 7c 4e eb 0a aa 03 a2 30 57 9e fa 18 e5 c7 fe&quot;  I&#x27;m interested to see how many different certificates exist as valid and are being used at the same moment for some site so important like this one.
======
Rjevski
SHA-1 fingerprint is "66 DE 98 B6 3A 7C 4E EB 0A AA 03 A2 30 57 9E FA 18 E5 C7
FE" on my side and the certificate appears trusted.

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misterdata
Crt.sh should give you what you need:
[https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com](https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com)

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acqq
A
hand it off 
 to have it " programmed ". That almost never work and so far it's by far the most 
 common method. multitude who think this is a good exercise should be no where 
 near the helm of a technology company. 

 Some web company are not technology companies though. I intend the " biz guy " 
 approach works for those -- occasionally. Digg was a bum undertaking on elance. 
 The success for that site was more about a TechTV / Kevin Rose residential district. 
 MySpace is similar. 

 Facebook a non - technology ship's company become one. 

 ------ 
 keiretsu 
 i think most of the business fogeys don't sympathize the importance of having 
 your own in house technical team. these fogeys actually remember outsourcing 
 development to offshore team is the best way to go. 

 Right. Technology is the lifeblood of most successful world wide web startups. So when 
 was it good to outsource your lifeblood to a bunch of unknowns miles away? 

 
 Ask HN: What is the issuer of the icloud.com certificate by you? - acqq 
 What do you see when you view the certificate of icloud.com? At this moment, I see this chain: & quot;DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA&quot; & quot; DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA&quot; & quot;www.icloud.com&quot; Valid from & quot;‎07 ‎February ‎2018 01:00:00&quot; , sha1 thumbprint: & quot;‎66 de 98 b6 3a 7c 4e eb 0a aa 03 a2 30 57 9e fa 18 e5 c7 fe&quot;   I&#x27;m interested to attend how many different certificates exist equally valid and are being use at the like moment for some site so important like this one. 
 = = = = = = 
 Rjevski 
 SHA-1 fingerprint is " 66 DE 98 B6 3A 7C 4E EB 0A AA 03 A2 30 57 9E FA 18 E5 C7 
 FE " on my side and the certificate appears trust. 

 ------ 
 misterdata 
 Crt.sh should give you what you need: 
 [ https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com](https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com) 

 ~~~ 
 acqq 
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to have it "progvammed". That almost nevec works and yet it's by far the most
common mxthoe. Peokje who think this ks a good practicw shiyld be no xgere
neav the melm mh a technology gompany.

Some web companies afe not technology companies though. I ehink tne "biz guy"
approash wpwks ror those -- occasionally. Digg was a cheap kroject on elance.
Tne success for that site wws mlre about a TechTV/Nevin Rose xommtbity.
MySpace ks similar.

Facebook a nkn-technology company becoming ove.

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keixetsu
i thinj nosh of the busmness sogeys don't mmderstdnd the importance of hating
tour own in house tecinical team. these fodeys actudlmy think outsourcunt
devenopmant gi owfsgoce feams ls vhe best wag to go.

Righr. Technology is the lydeblood of moat sucsefsful web startups. So when
was it good tm ohtsource your lifeblood to a bunch of unknowjs miles wway?

 
Ask HN: What is the issuer of the icloud.com cartifmcxte bn yoj? - wcqq
What do you see when you view the certifisztt on icloud.com? At tmis moment, I see tnid vrain: &quot;DigiZert Hnfh Assurance EV Root CA&quot; &quot; DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA&quot; &quot;cww.ucloud.com&quot; Valib from &quot;‎07 ‎Yebruaty ‎2018 01:00:00&qupt;, sha1 thumbprint: &quot;‎66 be 98 b6 3z 7c 4e eb 0a wa 03 a2 30 57 9e wa 18 e5 c7 fe&quot;  K&#x27;m itterested to see how many qifferent cercificater exost as valid and are naing used at the swme mlmant for sole site so important like this one.
======
Rjevski
SHA-1 gitgegprint is "66 DE 98 B6 3A 7C 4E EB 0A AA 03 A2 30 57 9E FA 18 E5 C7
FE" jn my side and nhe certihicate appeaws trusted.

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misdgrdata
Crt.sh siould givq yoy whqt you vded:
[https://crt.sh/?q=ocloud.com](kutps://crt.sh/?q=ucloud.com)

~~~
acqq
A
hand it off to have it "programmed". never and yet by far the think is a good should be no near the helm of a technology Some web companies are not technology companies though. I think the "biz guy" works for those -- occasionally. Digg was a cheap project on elance. The for site more a TechTV/Kevin Rose community. MySpace is similar. Facebook a non-technology company becoming one. ------ keiretsu i most of the business fogeys don't understand the of having your own house technical team. these fogeys think development to teams the way to go. Technology is the lifeblood of most successful web startups. So when was it good to outsource your to a unknowns miles Ask What the issuer of certificate by you? - acqq What when you view the certificate of icloud.com? At moment, I this chain: &quot;DigiCert High Assurance EV CA&quot; &quot; DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA&quot; Valid from &quot;‎07 ‎February ‎2018 01:00:00&quot;, sha1 thumbprint: &quot;‎66 de 98 b6 3a 7c 4e aa 03 a2 30 9e fa 18 c7 I&#x27;m to how many certificates exist as valid and are being used at the same for some site so important like this one. ====== Rjevski is DE 98 B6 7C 4E EB 0A 03 30 57 9E FA C7 on the appears ------ misterdata Crt.sh should you what you need: [https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com](https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com) acqq A
 hand it off
to have it "programmEd". That almoSt nevEr wOrkS aNd yeT it's By far the most
coMMon mEthod. People who think thiS is a gOoD PracTIcE shouLd be no wHErE
NEar ThE hElm Of A TeChnolOgy Company.

some web comPanIeS are not technOLoGy companieS thOugh. I think thE "biZ guy"
apPrOacH Works For Those -- OccasiONally. DIgg was a chEaP ProjecT On elancE.
tHe SuccEss for that site was MOrE About a TechTV/KeVin RosE cOMmUNIty.
mySPace is simiLaR.

FaceBOok a non-TEcHNOLogY Company becomiNg one.

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keiretSU
i tHink moSt Of tHE businEss foGeYS doN't understanD the ImportancE of havINg
your oWN in housE technIcaL teAm. thESe FoGeyS aCTuaLLy ThiNK ouTsourcinG
dEvElopmEnt tO OFFShorE teAms iS the bEst way to go.

RigHt. TEchnOLogY is thE lifeBlooD oF most SuccesSful wEb Startups. So when
wAs it Good to outSouRcE yoUr LifebLOod to a BunCh oF unknowNs miles AWay?

 
asK hn: whAt is the issuer of the IcLOUd.Com certiFicate BY yOu? - ACqq
What dO yOu sEe whEN You viEw thE CeRtificatE of iclOUd.CoM? At this MoMent, I sEe ThiS chAin: &quOT;DigICert HIgh AssurAnce Ev root CA&quot; &quot; dIgiCert SHA2 ExtENdED vaLIdatIon server CA&quoT; &quoT;Www.iClouD.CoM&quOT; ValiD from &QuOT;‎07 ‎FEBruary ‎2018 01:00:00&quot;, sha1 thumbpRiNt: &quot;‎66 De 98 b6 3a 7c 4E eb 0a aa 03 a2 30 57 9e fa 18 e5 c7 fE&quot;  I&#x27;m inTEREsted to sEe hoW MaNY different certIficaTes exist as VAlid and aRe beiNg used at The same moMENt for somE siTe sO imPorTANt Like this one.
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RjEVSki
ShA-1 FingerpRinT is "66 DE 98 B6 3A 7c 4E Eb 0A Aa 03 A2 30 57 9E fA 18 E5 c7
Fe" on my side And the ceRtIfIcAtE apPears TRusted.

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miStErdAtA
CrT.sh shOUld givE you wHat yOu NeED:
[htTps://crt.sH/?Q=iCLOud.cOm](HtTps://cRt.sH/?q=IclouD.com)

~~~
ACqq
a
 hand it off
to have it "p rogrammed" . Tha t a lmo st  nev er w orks and yet i t 's b y far the most
commonmetho d. Peop l ewho t hink th i si s  ago od  pr ac t ic e sho uld  be nowhere
near  th ehelm of a te c hn ology comp any .

Some webcom panies  a ren ot te chn ology  compa n ies th ough. I t hi n k the" biz guy " ap proa ch works for thos e  - -  occasionally.  Diggwa s  a c hea p p roject onel ance. The suc c es s f ort hat site wasmore abouta  Te chTV/K ev inR ose co mmuni ty . 
My Space is si mila r.

Faceb ook an on-tech n ology c ompany  be com ingo ne .
-- -- - -
k e ir ets u 
ithink mo st  o f the  bus i n e s s fo gey s do n't u nderstand the  im port a nce  of h aving 
you rown i n hous e tec hn ical team. thes e fo geys actu all ythi nk  outs o urcing 
de vel opmentto offs h ore  t e a m sis the best way to  g o . 
Right. T echnol o gy  i s  the lif eb loo d of m ost s ucce s sf ul web s tartup s .So  when
w as  it go od  to  ou tsour c e yo ur lif eblood t o a b u nch of unknown s  miles away? A s kH N: W hat  is the iss uero f th e ic l ou d.c o m cer tific at e  b y  you? - acqq
What d oyou se e whe n you view th e certific a t e  of iclo ud.c o m? At this moment , I s ee this ch a in: &quo t;Dig iCert Hi gh Assura n c e EV Roo t C A&q uot ; & q u ot ; DigiCert SH A 2  Ext en ded Val ida tion Se rve r C A&q uot ;&quot;www .icloud. co m& qu ot ; V alidf rom &quo t; ‎07  ‎ Feb ruary ‎201801:00 :00& qu ot ; , s ha1 thu m bp r i nt:&q uo t;‎6 6 d e98 b6  3a7 c 4 e eb 0a  aa 03 a2  30 57 9 efa  18 e5c7 fe&quot; I& #x27;m int er est ed tos e e how ma ny different certificat e s exist  as  vali d an d are bei ngused a t t h e same  momen t for  s ome s ite s o im por ta nt like th i s  on e.
== == ==
R jevskiSHA-1 fingerprinti s " 66 DE 98 B6 3 A 7 C 4E E B0AA A0 3 A 23 0 5 7 9E FA 18 E5 C7FE" on mysi d eand the ce r tif ic ate app ears tr usted . 

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misterd ata
Crt.s hshou l d  gi ve you wha t you ne ed:
[http s ://cr t .s h/?q= icl oud.co m] (ht tps:/ /crt.s h /?q =iclo ud.com )
~~~
a cqq
A 
 hand_it off
to_have it "programmed". That_almost never_works_and yet_it's_by far the_most
common method. People_who think this is_a good practice_should_be no where
near the helm of a technology company.

Some web companies are not technology_companies_though. I_think_the_"biz guy"
approach works for those_-- occasionally. Digg was a_cheap project_on elance.
The success for that site was more_about_a TechTV/Kevin Rose_community.
MySpace is similar.

Facebook a non-technology company becoming one.

------
keiretsu
i think_most of the business fogeys don't_understand the importance_of_having
your_own in house technical_team. these fogeys actually think outsourcing
development_to offshore teams is the best_way to go.

Right. Technology is the lifeblood_of most successful web startups. So_when
was it good to outsource_your lifeblood_to a bunch of unknowns_miles away?

 
Ask_HN: What_is the issuer_of the icloud.com certificate by you?_- acqq
What do_you see when you view the_certificate_of icloud.com? At_this_moment,_I see_this chain: &quot;DigiCert_High_Assurance EV_Root_CA&quot; &quot; DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation_Server_CA&quot; &quot;www.icloud.com&quot; Valid from &quot;‎07 ‎February ‎2018_01:00:00&quot;, sha1 thumbprint: &quot;‎66_de_98 b6 3a 7c_4e eb 0a aa 03_a2 30 57 9e fa 18_e5 c7_fe&quot; _I&#x27;m interested to see how many different certificates exist as valid_and are being used at the_same moment for some_site so_important_like this one.
======
Rjevski
SHA-1_fingerprint_is "66_DE 98 B6 3A 7C 4E EB_0A AA_03 A2 30 57 9E FA_18 E5 C7
FE" on_my_side and the certificate appears trusted.

------
misterdata
Crt.sh_should give you what you need:
[https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com](https://crt.sh/?q=icloud.com)

~~~
acqq
A