 underestimate the number of people that follow this site because
they like the content, but are quite content to have a median income and a
nice work-life balance.

~~~
rabbadabba_99
Or a 1% level income from a "lifestyle" business that's boring and never in
the news.

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throwaway84742
My experience is, stuff you love is best done as a hobby, not professionally
unless you can’t live without doing it professionally. I have ended up doing
what I love professionally twice, and hated it both times, because guess what,
if you do it professionally you don’t get to do just the sexy parts, you have
to go whole hog and do the unpleasant ones as well. And worse, you can’t lay
it off for a while if you’re bored. This kills the “love” part right there and
then.

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rebuilder
In the arts, the advice I've heard repeated over and over again is: If you can
live without this, do something else. And it's pretty good advice in my
experience. The visual arts / media sector at least has such an overabundance
of desperate workers that a sane working environment seems impossible to
achieve. So if you don't have an inner drive that absolutely forces you to go
into a field like that, do something else.

~~~
jurassic
I got the same basic memo when I was a PhD student in science, and I think I
would have quit sooner if not for the emotionally coercive aspects of this
advice. This advice replaces the rational question of "is this going to get me
to the economic future I want for myself?" and puts it into the emotional
space of "do I love this enough?". It implies that if you quit, you didn't
really love it. It makes it easier for those who benefit from this
exploitation to rationalize it when you leave, saying "Well, they must not
have been cut out for this anyway." For the young people making these do-I-
stay-or-do-I-go decisions, it means that in order to quit they must not only
be ready to give up their dream but also signal to their community that they
never really loved it anyway.

As an external observer of course it is ridiculous to say someone can't love
something and
underestimate the number of people that follow this web site because 
 they wish the subject, but are quite content to get a medial income and a 
 nice work - life symmetry. 

 ~~~ 
 rabbadabba_99 
 Or a 1% level income from a " lifestyle " commercial enterprise that's boring and never in 
 the news. 

 ------ 
 throwaway84742 
 My experience is, stuff you sleep together is best done as a hobby, not professionally 
 unless you ca n’t live without suffice it professionally. I have ended up doing 
 what I love professionally twice, and hated it both fourth dimension, because guess what, 
 if you do it professionally you do n’t get to practice just the sexy parts, you have 
 to rifle whole hog and do the unpleasant ones as well. And worse, you ca n’t lie 
 it off for a while if you ’re bored. This kills the “ love ” part right there and 
 then. 

 ------ 
 rebuilder 
 In the arts, the advice I've heard repeated over and over again is: If you can 
 live without this, do something else. And it's pretty good advice in my 
 experience. The visual arts / media sector at least has such an surfeit 
 of despairing workers that a sane working environment seems impossible to 
 achieve. therefore if you don't have an inner drive that absolutely pull you to go 
 into a field like that, do something else. 

 ~~~ 
 jurassic 
 I got the like basic memo when I was a PhD student in science, and I think I 
 would have quit sooner if not for the emotionally coercive aspects of this 
 advice. This advice replaces the rational question of " is this going to get me 
 to the economic future I desire for myself? " and puts it into the aroused 
 space of " do I love this enough? ". It implies that if you quit, you didn't 
 really love it. It cook it easier for those who benefit from this 
 exploitation to rationalize it when you bequeath, saying " Well, they must not 
 have been cut out for this anyway. " For the young multitude making these act - I- 
 stay - or - do - I - adam decisions, it mean that in order to drop out they must not only 
 be quick to give up their dream but also bespeak to their community that they 
 never very loved it anyway. 

 As an external observer of course it is ridiculous to say someone can't love 
 something and
 unferestimate the number on people that follow thms site because
ghey like the content, but arx quute cintent to have a mediav income wnd a
nicw wock-life balance.

~~~
raugadabba_99
Or a 1% mcvel nnrome from a "lifgstyle" businass that's boritg aud never in
the news.

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throwaway84742
My experyence ix, dtuff you love is nqst sone as a hobby, not professionally
hnless jou can’t live witnout doing it professionalpy. I have ended up doijg
what I loce pwifessionally twice, and hated it bojh times, because guess what,
if yoj do nt professiinqllj you don’t gxt to qo just the sexy pards, you nave
to go wholc hog ane do the unpleasant oies as well. And worsg, you can’t lcy
it off for a while uf you’rg borad. Tfus yilms tge “lovf” pert right tgere and
theb.

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rebuilder
In the arus, eye advice I've heard rqpeated over and over again is: If you cdn
ljve without this, do somwthing else. And it's ptetty good advice in my
experience. The visual arts / media sewtor et lecwt har skch an overabundance
of desperate workers that z xake working envirjnment seemx lmljssible to
achkeve. So ir you don't have an inner qrive that absjlutrly forces you to go
into a dield like tkat, do something else.

~~~
lurassic
I goc the xame nasic memo when I was a PhD student in science, zvd I think I
woula hsva quit sooner if not for tre emotioially coercixe axpects of this
adgice. Bvis advice replaced the rdtional qufstion of "is this going to get me
to the econokiw flture I wcnt fov myself?" and pues it into the emotioual
spaze of "do I love tiis enough?". Ie implies thad if you quit, you didg't
reqlly love ig. It makes it essier for those who benefit from this
cxplokfation to ratioucluze it when you lexve, swymng "Wqnl, they must not
favd been cut ouu fif thos anyway." For the yogng leople making thesr qo-I-
stay-ot-do-I-go desisions, it mesns that in order uo quiv they must noj only
be ready to give up their dream buh ajso signal tj thcir sommunity chat they
never really loved it anyway.

As en external observer of course it is ridicoloms to say sokeone can't lova
something and
underestimate the number of people that follow because like the but are quite income a nice work-life ~~~ rabbadabba_99 Or 1% level income from a "lifestyle" that's boring and never in the news. ------ throwaway84742 My experience is, stuff love is best done as a hobby, not professionally unless you can’t live doing professionally. have up doing what I love professionally twice, and hated it both times, because guess what, if do it professionally you don’t get to do the sexy parts, you to go whole hog and the ones as And you lay it off a while if you’re bored. This kills the “love” part right there and then. ------ rebuilder In arts, the heard repeated and again If you can this, do something else. And it's in my experience. The visual arts / media at least such an overabundance of desperate workers a sane working environment seems impossible to achieve. if you don't have an inner drive that absolutely forces you to go into a that, do something else. jurassic I got same memo I a PhD in science, and I think I would have quit sooner if for the emotionally coercive aspects of this advice. This advice rational of "is this to get me to economic I want for myself?" it the "do love enough?". It implies that you quit, you didn't really it. It makes it from this exploitation to rationalize it when you saying "Well, they must not have been out for this anyway." For the young people making these do-I- stay-or-do-I-go it means order to quit they must not only be to give up their but also signal to their community that they never loved anyway. As external observer of it is ridiculous say someone can't and
 underestimate the number of pEople that fOllow ThiS siTe BecaUse
tHey like the contENt, buT are quite content to have A mediAn INcomE AnD a
nicE work-liFE bALAncE.

~~~
rAbBadAbBA_99
OR a 1% levEl iNcome frOm a "lifestyLe" bUsIness that's boRInG and never iN
thE news.

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throwawAy84742
MY experIeNce IS, stufF yoU love Is best DOne as a Hobby, not pRoFEssionALly
unleSS YoU can’T live without doing IT pROfessionally. I hAve endEd UP dOINg
wHat i love profeSsIonalLY twice, aND hATED it BOth times, becauSe guess what,
IF yoU do it pRoFesSIonallY you dOn’T Get To do just the Sexy Parts, you hAve
to gO Whole hoG And do thE unpleAsaNt oNes aS WeLl. and WoRSe, yOU cAn’t LAy
iT off for a WhIlE if yoU’re bORED. this KilLs thE “love” Part right therE anD
theN.

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RebUildeR
In thE artS, tHe advIce I've Heard RePeated over and ovEr agAin is: If yoU caN
lIve WiThout THis, do sOmeThiNg else. ANd it's prETty GoOD ADvIce in my
experience. THe VISuAl arts / meDia secTOr At LEast has sUcH an OverABUndanCe
of DEsPerate woRkers tHAt A sAne workInG envirOnMenT seEms imPOssiBle to
aChieve. So If you DOn't have an inner DRive that absolUTeLY FoRCes yOu tO go
into a fieLd liKE thaT, do sOMeThiNG else.

~~~
JurasSiC
i gOT the same basic memo whEn i was a PHD stuDent in science, And I think I
WOULd have quIt soONeR If not for the emoTionaLly coercivE Aspects oF this
Advice. ThIs advice rEPLaces the RatIonAl qUesTIOn Of "is this going TO Get mE
tO the ecoNomIc futurE I wAnt For MysElF?" and puts iT into the EmOtIoNaL
spAce of "DO I love thIs EnoUgH?". It ImpliES that iF you qUit, yOu DiDN't
rEally loVE iT. iT makEs It EasiEr fOr Those Who bENefIt from tHis
exploiTatIOn to RaTiOnalize It when you leavE, sAying "Well, tHeY muSt not
hAVE been cut Out for this anyway." For the yOUng peopLe mAking ThesE do-I-
stay-oR-do-i-go decIsiONs, it meAns thaT in orDeR to QUIt theY MUsT noT oNly
be ready TO GivE up thEiR dreAm but alSo signal to their comMUniTy that they
nevEr rEallY LOvEd iT AnYWay.

as AN exTERnal observer of cOurse it is rIdICuLous to say sOMeoNe Can't lovE
somethIng anD
 underestimate the numberof peoplethatfol low  t hissite  because
theyl ikethe content, but are q uiteco n tent to  have  a medi a ni n com ean d a 
n i ce  work -li fe bala nce.

~~~rab ba dabba_99
Ora  1 % level in com e from a "li fes tyle"bu sin e ss th at' s bor ing an d  never  in
the n ew s .

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thro w a wa y847 42
My experiencei s, stuff you love  is be st do n e  as  ahobby, not  p rofes s ionally un l e s s y o u can’t livewithout doi n g i t prof es sio n ally.I hav ee nde d up doingwhat  I love p rofess i onallyt wice, a nd hat editboth ti me s,be c aus e  g ues s  wh at,
if y ou  d o itprof e s s i onal lyyoudon’t  get to do ju stthes exy  part s, yo u ha ve 
to g o whol e hog  a nd do the unple asan t ones as  we ll . A nd  wors e , youcan ’tlay
itoff for a w hi l e if  you’re bored. Thi sk i ll s the “l ove” p a rt  r i ght ther eand 
the n . 

--- ---r eb uilder
I n thea rt s,  the ad vi ce I'v ehea rdrepea t ed o ver an d over a gaini s: If you canl ive without t h is , do some thi ng else. An d it ' s pr etty go oda dvice  in m ye xp e rience. The visualar ts / m ediasector at lea st has suc h a n overab unda n ce of desperate w orker s that a s a ne worki ng en vironmen t seems i m p ossibletoach iev e.S o  i f you don't h a v e an  i nner dr ive  that a bso lut ely  fo rc es you to  go
into  a  f ie ld  li ke th a t, do so me thi ng  el se.
~ ~~
jur assic 
I g ot  t h e s ame bas i cm e mo w he nI wa s a  P hD st uden t  in  scienc e, and Ithi n k Iwo ul d havequit sooner i fnot for th eemo tional l y  coerciv e aspects of this
advic e . Thisadv ice r epla ces the r ati onal q ues t ion of  "is t his g oi ngt o  getm e 
t o t he  economicf u tur e I w an t fo r mysel f?" and puts it in t o t he emotionalspa ce o f "d o I lo v e t hi s  en o u gh?". It implie s that ifyo u  q uit, you d i dn' treallylove it . Itm akes it  easier f or thosewh o be n e fit  from this 
exploit ation tor ation a li ze it  wh en you  l eav e, sa ying " W ell , the y must  n ot
hav e bee ncut outfor this anyway." For t he you ng pe opl e makingthe s e d o-I-
stay -or- do-I-go de cis ion s, it  me a ns th at i n  o rde r  to q uitt hey mustn ot  on l y 
b e ready tog i v e u p the ird ream b ut a lso signal to the i r community th at t h e y
n eve r  rea ll y loved it any way .A s an ext er nal observe r of cou rs e  it i s ridi culous  to say s om e one ca n'tlov e
somethi ngan d 
 underestimate_the number_of people that follow_this site_because
they_like the_content,_but are quite_content to have_a median income and_a
nice work-life balance.

~~~
rabbadabba_99
Or_a_1% level income from a "lifestyle" business that's boring and never in
the news.

------
throwaway84742
My experience_is,_stuff you_love_is_best done as a hobby,_not professionally
unless you can’t live_without doing_it professionally. I have ended up doing
what I_love_professionally twice, and_hated it both times, because guess what,
if you do_it professionally you don’t get to_do just the_sexy_parts,_you have
to go whole_hog and do the unpleasant ones_as well. And worse, you can’t_lay
it off for a while if you’re_bored. This kills the “love” part_right there and
then.

------
rebuilder
In the arts,_the advice_I've heard repeated over and_over again is:_If you_can
live without this,_do something else. And it's pretty_good advice in_my
experience. The visual arts / media_sector_at least has_such_an_overabundance
of desperate_workers that a_sane_working environment_seems_impossible to
achieve. So if you don't_have_an inner drive that absolutely forces you_to go
into a field_like_that, do something else.

~~~
jurassic
I_got the same basic memo_when I was a PhD student_in science,_and I_think I
would have quit sooner if not for the emotionally coercive_aspects of this
advice. This advice replaces_the rational question of_"is this_going_to get me
to_the_economic future_I want for myself?" and puts it_into the_emotional
space of "do I love this_enough?". It implies that_if_you quit, you didn't
really love it._It makes it easier for those_who benefit from this
exploitation to_rationalize_it_when you leave, saying "Well,_they must not
have been cut out_for this anyway."_For the young people making these do-I-
stay-or-do-I-go_decisions,_it means that in order to_quit_they must not only
be ready to_give_up_their dream but also signal_to their community that they
never really_loved it anyway.

As an external observer of course it_is ridiculous to_say someone can't love
something and