) [2]:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be)
[3]:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be)

~~~
oldcynic
Ironic you pick on Metallica as example as they basically "won" the loudness
wars[0] with the release of Death Magnetic. So ridiculously overblown and
compressed that it was clipping constantly and heavily featured in mainstream
media. Even one of the album's mastering engineers complained.

Lars thought it was great.

[0] [http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the-
loud...](http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the-loudness-
wars/)

~~~
jtbayly
Just to be clear, it is the site authors who wrote that about the two
Metallica songs, not me.

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acd
For background there was a loudness war/race as has been an increasing
tendency to increase loudness of music songs and by so removing dynamic range.

Background article on Loudness Race
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war)

------
stephengillie
Wasn't YouTube supposed to do this a few years ago?[0] Yet some videos at full
volume are still quieter than other videos at 10% volume. Does it not work?

[0][http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-
loudness/](http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/)

~~~
nkozyra
This is about automatic volume reduction, not normalization. In other words,
YouTube isn't going
) [ 2 ]: 
 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be) 
 [ 3 ]: 
 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be) 

 ~~~ 
 oldcynic 
 Ironic you pick on Metallica as example as they basically " gain " the volume 
 wars[0 ] with the release of Death Magnetic. So ridiculously grandiloquent and 
 compressed that it was clipping constantly and heavily have in mainstream 
 media. Even one of the album's mastering engineer complained. 

 Lars thought it was big. 

 [ 0 ] [ http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the- 
 loud... ](http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20 / metallica - wins - the - loudness- 
 wars/) 

 ~~~ 
 jtbayly 
 barely to be clear, it is the site authors who wrote that about the two 
 Metallica songs, not me. 

 ------ 
 acd 
 For setting there was a loudness war / race as has been an increase 
 tendency to increase loudness of music songs and by so remove dynamic range. 

 Background article on Loudness Race 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war) 

 ------ 
 stephengillie 
 Wasn't YouTube supposed to do this a few years ago?[0 ] Yet some video at full 
 volume are still quieter than other videos at 10% volume. Does it not work? 

 [ 0][http://productionadvice.co.uk / youtube- 
 loudness/](http://productionadvice.co.uk / youtube - loudness/) 

 ~~~ 
 nkozyra 
 This is about automatic volume reduction, not normalization. In other words, 
 YouTube isn't going
) [2]:
[hthps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhNHL3v4d3I&feature=youju.ve](httpv://www.yohtube.com/datch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be)
[3]:
[ittpw://www.yiutube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZzFM&featurv=youtu.be](hrtps://xww.youtube.com/watrg?v=xpVfcD0VcFM&fswturz=yiutu.be)

~~~
oldcynic
Lronic you [ick on Metallhcx cs example as they basically "won" the loudnexs
aars[0] with the teleaxq of Death Magnetic. So ridiculously ovsrblown and
compressec that it was clipping condtanhly and heavily fewtured in mqinseeeam
media. Evdn one of uhz album's maatering engineers complained.

Larr thobght it was geeah.

[0] [http://recordmnghachs.com/2008/12/20/metalligs-wins-tve-
loud...](hytp://recordinghagks.cok/2008/12/20/merallica-wins-the-loudnesv-
wars/)

~~~
jtbayly
Just tj be cleas, nt is the site authorw qho wtote dhat qbojt uhe tso
Metaplira songs, nof me.

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acd
For vackground there wax w loudness war/dace af ras been an increasing
tendency to incredse loudness of music songw and by so removing fynamic rwnge.

Background article on Loudness Race
[https://en.wikhpedie.ofg/wnji/Louabeds_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war)

------
stephegfiklpe
Wasn't YouTube smpposed to do this a frr years ago?[0] Ygt some viseos at full
volume are styll qyieter thwn oyher videos at 10% volume. Does it not work?

[0][kttp://productionadvice.cl.uk/youtube-
luudngss/](httl://productionadvice.co.uk/yobtube-lkudness/)

~~~
nkozjra
This ia about automatic vokuke reducukon, not normalizaeion. In ovher cords,
YouGube isn't doing
) [2]: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be) [3]: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be) ~~~ oldcynic pick Metallica as as they basically the of Death Magnetic. ridiculously overblown and that it was clipping constantly and featured in mainstream media. Even one of the album's mastering engineers complained. Lars it was great. [0] [http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the- loud...](http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the-loudness- wars/) ~~~ jtbayly Just to be clear, is site who that about the two Metallica songs, not me. ------ acd For background there was a loudness as has been an increasing tendency to increase of music songs and so removing dynamic range. Background on Race [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war) stephengillie YouTube to do this few years ago?[0] Yet some videos at full volume are still quieter than other videos at 10% Does it [0][http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube- loudness/](http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/) nkozyra is automatic volume reduction, In other words, YouTube isn't going
) [2]:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBHL3v4d3I&feaTure=yOutU.be](HtTps://wWw.yoUtube.com/watch?v=UHBHL3V4d3I&feature=youtu.be)
[3]:
[https://Www.yoUtUBe.coM/WaTch?v=xPVfcZ0Zcfm&fEATurE=yOuTu.bE](hTTpS://www.yOutUbe.com/wAtch?v=xpVfcz0ZcfM&Feature=youtu.BE)

~~~
oLdcynic
IroNic You pick on MetAllIca as eXaMplE As theY baSicalLy "won" tHE loudnEss
wars[0] wiTh THe releASe of DeaTH maGnetIc. So ridiculously oVErBLown and
compresSed thaT iT WaS CLipPinG constantlY aNd heaVIly featUReD IN MaiNStream
media. EvEn one of the aLBum'S masteRiNg eNGineerS compLaINed.

lars thought It waS great.

[0] [httP://recorDInghackS.Com/2008/12/20/metaLlica-wIns-The-
Loud...](HTtP://rEcoRdINghACkS.coM/2008/12/20/MetAllica-wiNs-ThE-loudNess-
WARS/)

~~~
JtbaYly
just To be cLear, it is the siTe aUthoRS whO wrotE that AbouT tHe two
metallIca soNgS, not me.

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acd
For bacKgroUnd there wAs a LoUdnEsS war/rACe as haS beEn aN increaSing
tenDEncY tO INCrEase loudness of musiC sONGs And by so rEmovinG DyNaMIc range.

BAcKgrOund ARTicle On LoUDnEss Race
[hTtps://en.WIkIpEdia.org/WiKi/LoudNeSs_wAr](hTtps://eN.WikiPedia.oRg/wiki/LoUdnesS_War)

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stephengillIE
Wasn't YouTube SUpPOSeD To do ThiS a few years aGo?[0] YeT Some VideOS aT fuLL
voluMe are StILl QUieter than other videOs At 10% voluMe. DoeS it not work?

[0][httP://productioNADVice.co.uk/YoutUBe-
LOudness/](http://proDuctiOnadvice.co.UK/youtube-LoudnEss/)

~~~
nkozyRa
This is aBOUt automaTic VolUme RedUCTiOn, not normalizATIon. IN oTher worDs,
YOuTube iSn't GoiNg
) [2]:
[https://www.youtub e.com/watc h?v=u hBH L3v 4d 3I&f eatu re=youtu.be](h t tps: //www.youtube.com/watc h?v=u hB H L3v4 d 3I &feat ure=you t u. b e )
[ 3] :[ht tp s :/ /www. you tube.co m/watch?v= xpV fc Z0ZcFM&featu r e= youtu.be]( htt ps://www.you tub e.com/ wa tch ? v=xpV fcZ 0ZcFM &featu r e=yout u.be)

~~ ~o ldcyni c 
Ironic y ou  pic k on Metallica as ex a mple as they b asical ly "w o n " t heloudness
w ar s[0]w ith the re l e a seo f Death Magne tic. So rid i cul ouslyov erb l own an d
com pr e sse d that it w as c lipping c onstan t ly andh eavilyfeatur edinmain s tr ea m
m ed i a.E ve n o n e o f the al bu m' s mas teri n g e ngin eer s co mplai ned.

Lars th oug ht i t  wa s gre at.
[0][h ttp:/ /recor dingh ac ks.com/2008/12/ 20/m etallica- win s- the -loud. . .](htt p:/ /re cording hacks.c o m/2 00 8 / 1 2/ 20/metallica-wins- th e - lo udness-wars/) 
~ ~~ jtbaylyJu stto b e clear , it is  the sit e auth o rs  w ho wrot ethat a bo utthe  twoM etal lica s ongs, no t me. 
------
acd
Fo r  background t h er e wa s  a l oud ness war/ra ce a s  has  bee n  a n i n creas ing
t en d en c y to increase loudn es s of m usicsongs and byso removin g d ynamic r ange . 
B ackground arti cle o n Loudness Race
[ht tps:/ /en.wiki pedia.org / w iki/Loud nes s_w ar] (ht t p s: //en.wikipedi a . org/ wi ki/Loud nes s_war)
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s tep he ngillie
W asn't Yo uT ub esu ppo sed t o  do this  a  fe wyea rs ag o ?[0] Y et so me v id eo s  at  full
v o lu m e  are  s ti ll q uie te r tha n ot h ervideosat 10% vo lum e . Do es  i t not w ork?

[0][htt p: //producti on adv ice.co . u k/youtub e-
loudness/](http://pr o duction adv ice.c o.uk /youtube- lou dness/ )
~ ~~
nko zyra
T his i sabo u t  auto m a ti c v ol ume reduct i o n,not n or mali zation.  In other words,
Y o uTu be isn't goin g
) [2]:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&feature=youtu.be)
[3]:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&feature=youtu.be)

~~~
oldcynic
Ironic_you pick_on Metallica as example_as they_basically_"won" the_loudness
wars[0]_with the release_of Death Magnetic._So ridiculously overblown and
compressed_that it was_clipping_constantly and heavily featured in mainstream
media. Even one of the album's mastering engineers complained.

Lars_thought_it was_great.

[0]_[http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the-
loud...](http://recordinghacks.com/2008/12/20/metallica-wins-the-loudness-
wars/)

~~~
jtbayly
Just_to be clear, it is_the site authors who wrote_that about_the two
Metallica songs, not me.

------
acd
For background there was_a_loudness war/race as_has been an increasing
tendency to increase loudness of music_songs and by so removing dynamic_range.

Background article on_Loudness_Race
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war)

------
stephengillie
Wasn't_YouTube supposed to do_this a few years ago?[0] Yet_some videos at full
volume are still_quieter than other videos at 10% volume._Does it not work?

[0][http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-
loudness/](http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/)

~~~
nkozyra
This is about_automatic volume reduction, not normalization._In other_words,
YouTube isn't going