 cop and
good cop, run.

3) if they don’t ask you any personal questions it means they will not care
about you.

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purpleD
I think this is the biggest factor when I take a job. Do I like the boss? I
say the beer test - would I enjoy hanging out with this boss socially. I'm not
saying I would, in fact I rarely have with my bosses, but someone who seems
like I could be friends with is someone I want to work for.

This has lead to me mostly working for bosses with good people skills which is
rare to find in tech. I hate working for socially obvlivious robot programmers
who can't solve people problems.

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lhnz
There's no foolproof way of detecting bad bosses and environments.

What you need to learn is:

(1) How to deal with difficult people. It's very likely that you'll have to
deal with personalities and egos like this at some point no matter how
carefully you attempt to situate yourself.

(2) How to make yourself marketable enough that you can easily walk from
uncomfortable workplace cultures. At some point you're going to work with a
colleague or in a company that you cannot stand, so be ready for this.

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cubano
Well then, do better and don't look back.

There is no shame in taking a first job out of college and realizing it wasn't
meant to be.

Working at your age should be akin to dating...you should have no guilt or
issue with realizing you acted without having complete information and perhaps
jumped into something that wasn't, in the end, right for you.

Why not start actively shopping a resume and talking to colleagues your age to
see where you could possibly land next?

Good luck, and keep moving towards a better tomorrow.

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xivzgrev
What did your gut tell you? You said it was a great startup but what was vibe
from hiring manager? I'm willing to bet you didn't feel excellent about him or
her.

Its the best tool. I had a certain feeling about my curemt boss (like this,
don't like this) and its right on the money 4 months later. Just get a sense
from what they focus on (and what
cop and 
 good cop, run. 

 3) if they do n’t necessitate you any personal question it means they will not care 
 about you. 

 ------ 
 purpleD 
 I remember this is the big factor when I take a occupation. Do I like the boss? I 
 state the beer test - would I enjoy hang out with this boss socially. I'm not 
 saying I would, in fact I rarely get with my bosses, but someone who seems 
 like I could be friends with is someone I want to work for. 

 This has lead to me largely working for bosses with good multitude skills which is 
 rare to find in tech. I hate working for socially obvlivious automaton programmers 
 who can't clear people problems. 

 ------ 
 lhnz 
 There's no foolproof way of detect bad bosses and environments. 

 What you need to learn is: 

 (1) How to deal with unmanageable citizenry. It's very likely that you'll have to 
 deal with personalities and egos like this at some point no matter how 
 carefully you attempt to situate yourself. 

 (2) How to make yourself marketable enough that you can well walk from 
 uncomfortable workplace culture. At some point you're blend to make with a 
 colleague or in a company that you cannot stand, so be quick for this. 

 ------ 
 cubano 
 Well then, do well and don't look back. 

 There is no pity in taking a first job out of college and realizing it wasn't 
 meant to be. 

 Working at your age should be akin to dating... you should have no guilt or 
 issue with realizing you acted without receive complete data and possibly 
 rise into something that wasn't, in the end, right for you. 

 Why not start actively shop a resume and talking to colleagues your old age to 
 see where you could possibly land next? 

 Good luck, and observe moving towards a better tomorrow. 

 ------ 
 xivzgrev 
 What did your gut tell you? You said it was a bang-up startup but what was vibe 
 from hire manager? I'm uncoerced to bet you didn't feel excellent about him or 
 her. 

 Its the best cock. I have a certain spirit about my curemt boss (like this, 
 don't like this) and its right on the money 4 months later. merely get a sense 
 from what they concenter on (and what
 coo and
good cop, run.

3) if then don’t ask you aut persmnal qhestions it means they will not care
ebour you.

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klrpleD
I think this is the biggvst factoe whtn I take a job. Do I like the bkds? I
vey the beer tesj - would I etjoy hanging ogt wnth this boss socially. I'm not
saying Y would, ij fact I rareli havt wyth jj nosses, but someone who seems
like I coulv be friends wiyh is someone I want to wogk flr.

This has lead to me mostly qorkybg for bosser with good people skimls which is
rare to find in tecf. I hcte working fir dmcially obvoiviols robot progvsmmers
fho can'y solve people prmblwms.

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lhnz
There's no fool'roof way of detectigg bad bovszs and environments.

Whqt you teed to uwarv ia:

(1) Iow to dewl xith diffichlt people. Ut's very likely thau yjl'kl have to
dezl witr [ersonalities and egos like this at somt poiht no matter how
carefuloy you attempt to sitoate yoursqlf.

(2) How to make yourself marketable enough that ymu cai dasnoy wauj vrom
uncomfortable workplace cultures. At some [kimt you're going tj work with a
fokjeague or in x compchy that you cannot shand, so be rwady for uhis.

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cibano
Well then, do better ane don't look yacj.

There is no shame in taking c firsj job put of college and realnzing jt wasn't
meajt to be.

Wkfking at your agd smound be akin to dating...you shjuld have no yuilt or
kssug with wealizing jou agded without having comppede informahion and perhaps
jumped into somxvhing that waxn'd, it the enb, righb for you.

Why noe start activeky shop'ing a resume ans talkiig to colleadues your age jo
see where ymu could poswiblt land vdxt?

Good luck, amd keep moving towaeds a better tomorvow.

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xixagrev
What did yiur gut tell you? Ypu raiq pt xas a creat startu[ bug wfst war vibe
from mirkng kanager? I'm willing tm bef you didn't feel ecccllent abiut him jr
her.

Its the nest tool. I had a fertamn feeuing sboot my curemt boss (like this,
don't like thid) akd its right jn tme mjney 4 montks later. Just get a sense
from what they hocus on (and what
cop and good cop, run. 3) if ask any personal it means they ------ I think this the biggest factor I take a job. Do I the boss? I say the beer test - would I enjoy hanging out this boss socially. I'm not saying I would, in fact I rarely have my but who like I could be friends with is someone I want to work for. This has lead me mostly working for bosses with good people which is rare to in tech. I hate working socially robot programmers can't people ------ lhnz There's foolproof way of detecting bad bosses and environments. What you need to learn is: (1) How to with difficult very likely you'll to with personalities and this at some point no matter attempt to situate yourself. (2) How to make marketable enough you can easily walk from uncomfortable cultures. At some point you're going to work a colleague or in a company that you cannot stand, so be ready for this. Well then, do better don't look back. is shame taking first job of college and realizing it wasn't meant to be. Working at age should be akin to dating...you should have no guilt with you acted without complete information and perhaps into that wasn't, in the for Why shopping resume talking to colleagues your to see where you could land next? Good luck, better tomorrow. ------ xivzgrev What did your gut you? You said it was a great but what was vibe from hiring manager? I'm willing to bet you feel excellent or her. Its the best tool. I had certain feeling about my boss (like this, don't like this) and its right the 4 months Just get a from what they on (and what
 cop and
good cop, run.

3) if they don’T ask you any PersoNal QueStIons It meAns they will not CAre
aBout you.

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purpleD
I think thIs is tHe BIggeST fActor When I taKE a JOB. Do i lIkE thE bOSs? i
say tHe bEer test - Would I enjoY haNgIng out with thIS bOss sociallY. I'm Not
saying I woUld, In fact i rAreLY have WitH my boSses, buT SomeonE who seems
LiKE I coulD Be frienDS WiTh is Someone I want to worK FoR.

this has lead to mE mostlY wORkING foR boSses with goOd PeoplE Skills wHIcH IS
RarE To find in tech. I Hate working FOr sOciallY oBvlIVious rObot pRoGRamMers
who can't SolvE people prOblems.

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LHnz
TherE'S no foolProof wAy oF deTectINg BaD boSsES anD EnVirONmeNts.

What yOu NeEd to lEarn IS:

(1) hOW to dEal With DiffiCult people. It's VerY likELy tHat yoU'll haVe to
DeAl witH persoNalitIeS and egos like thiS at sOme point nO maTtEr hOw
CarefULly you AttEmpT to situAte yourSElf.

(2) hoW TO MaKe yourself marketabLe ENOuGh that yoU can eaSIlY wALk from
unCoMfoRtabLE WorkpLace CUlTures. At sOme poiNT yOu'Re going To Work wiTh A
coLleAgue oR In a cOmpany That you cAnnot STand, so be ready fOR this.

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cubano
WeLL tHEN, dO BettEr aNd don't look bAck.

THEre iS no sHAmE in TAking A firsT jOB oUT of college and realizInG it wasN't
meaNt to be.

Working At your age sHOULd be akin To daTInG...You should have nO guilT or
issue wiTH realiziNg you Acted witHout havinG COmplete iNfoRmaTioN anD PErHaps
jumped intO SOmetHiNg that wAsn'T, in the eNd, rIghT foR yoU.

WHy not starT activelY sHoPpInG a rEsume ANd talkinG tO coLlEagUes yoUR age to
See whEre yOu CoULd pOssibly LAnD NExt?

GOoD lUck, aNd kEeP moviNg toWArdS a betteR tomorrow.

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XivZGrev
whAt Did your Gut tell you? You SaId it was a grEaT stArtup bUT What was vIbe
from hiring manager? I'm wILling to Bet You diDn't fEel excellEnt About hIm oR
Her.

Its The besT tool. i hAd a CERtain FEElIng AbOut my curemT BOss (Like tHiS,
don'T like thIs) and its right on the MOneY 4 months later. JUst Get a SENsE
frOM wHAt tHeY FocUS On (and what
 cop and
good cop, run.

3 ) if theydon’t  as k y ou  any  per sonal question s  itmeans they will not ca re
ab ou t  you . 
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purpl e DI thi nk  t his  i s  t he bi gge st fact or when Itak ea job. Do Il ik e the boss ? I 
say the bee r t est -wo uld I enj oyhangi ng out with t his bossso c ially. I'm not s ay ingI would, in factI  r a rely have with  my bo ss e s, b utsom eone who s ee ms
li k e I cou l db e fri e nds with is s omeone I wa n t t o work  f or. 
Thishas l ea d  to  me mostlywork ing for b ossesw ith goo d  people  skill s w hic h is ra re  to  f i ndi ntec h . I  hate wo rk in g for  soc i a l l y ob vli viou s rob ot programmer s
w ho c a n't  solv e peo plepr oblem s.

-- ----lh nz
There's no f oolp roof wayofde tec ti ng ba d  bosse s a ndenviron ments.Wha ty o u  n eed to learn is:
(1 ) Ho w to dea l with di ff i cult peo pl e.It's v ery l ikel y  t hat you' ll hav e  t odeal wi th  perso na lit ies  ande goslike t his at s ome p o int no matterh ow
carefullyy ou a tt e mpttosituate you rsel f .

( 2) H o wtom ake y ourse lf ma r ketable enough that  y ou can  easi ly walk fromuncomforta b l e  workpla ce c u lt u res. At some p ointyou're goi n g to wor k wit h a
coll eague ori n  a compa nytha t y ouc a nn ot stand, sob e  rea dy  for th is. 

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c uba noWel lthen, dobetter a nd  d on 't  lo ok ba c k.

Ther eisno  sh ame i n  takin g a f irst  j ob out  of col l eg e andre al izin g i twasn' t
me a ntto be.
Workingaty ourag eshouldbe akin to da ti ng...you s ho uld  haven o  guilt o r
issue with realizingy ou acte d w ithou t ha ving comp let e info rma t ion an d perh aps
j um ped i nto s o m et hin gthat wasn' t ,  in  theen d, r ight fo r you.

Why not st a rtactively shop pin g ar e su mea nd tal ki n g t o colleagues your  age to
se ew he re you cou l d p os sibly l and nex t?

G o od luck , and kee p movingto ward s a b etter tomo rrow.

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xiv z grevW ha t did  yo ur gut  t ell  you?  You s a idit wa s a gr ea t star tup b ut  what wa s vibe
from hiring mana ger? I 'm wi lli ng to bet  yo u  di dn't feel  exc ellent abo uthim  or
h er. 
Itstheb es t t o ol. I  had a certain fe eli n g  a bout my cur e m t  bo ss (l ike this,don' t like this) andi ts right on th e mo n e y 4  mo n thsla ter. Just geta s en s e 
from wh at  they focus  on (and  w h at
 cop_and
good cop,_run.

3) if they don’t_ask you_any_personal questions_it_means they will_not care
about you.

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purpleD
I_think this is the_biggest factor when_I_take a job. Do I like the boss? I
say the beer test - would_I_enjoy hanging_out_with_this boss socially. I'm not
saying_I would, in fact I_rarely have_with my bosses, but someone who seems
like I_could_be friends with_is someone I want to work for.

This has lead_to me mostly working for bosses_with good people_skills_which_is
rare to find in_tech. I hate working for socially_obvlivious robot programmers
who can't solve people_problems.

------
lhnz
There's no foolproof way of detecting bad_bosses and environments.

What you need to_learn is:

(1) How to deal_with difficult_people. It's very likely that_you'll have to
deal_with personalities_and egos like_this at some point no matter_how
carefully you attempt_to situate yourself.

(2) How to make_yourself_marketable enough that_you_can_easily walk_from
uncomfortable workplace cultures._At_some point_you're_going to work with a
colleague or_in_a company that you cannot stand, so_be ready for this.

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cubano
Well_then,_do better and don't_look back.

There is no shame_in taking a first job out_of college_and realizing_it wasn't
meant to be.

Working at your age should be akin to_dating...you should have no guilt or
issue_with realizing you acted_without having_complete_information and perhaps
jumped_into_something that_wasn't, in the end, right for you.

Why_not start_actively shopping a resume and talking_to colleagues your age_to
see_where you could possibly land next?

Good_luck, and keep moving towards a_better tomorrow.

------
xivzgrev
What did your gut_tell_you?_You said it was a_great startup but what was vibe
from_hiring manager? I'm_willing to bet you didn't feel excellent_about_him or
her.

Its the best tool. I_had_a certain feeling about my curemt_boss_(like_this,
don't like this) and its_right on the money 4 months_later. Just get a sense
from what they focus on_(and what