http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/polska-i-swiat/a/koniec-anonimowych-
telefonow-na-karte,9784741/)

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DominikPeters
Main points of the article: For purposes of terrorism prevention, the current
German government wants to require sellers of SIM cards to check photo ID and
ask for current address. If this happens, it will be (theoretically)
impossible to own a German phone number that isn't connected to a name.

The address data is supposed to be put into a searchable database allowing
security officials to search for names even if the exact spelling isn't known
(which appears to be a problem with current systems). For privacy purposes,
they plan to put a limit on the number of records displayed in response to a
search query.

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phillc73
I think these checks are probably already pretty common in other parts of the
world.

For at least the last three or four years in Australia there is a requirement
to present Photo ID before buying a SIM card. I was quite surprised by this
when I tried to buy a SIM at Sydney airport a few years ago.

I have no idea what the government is doing with the data nor how it is
protected. At the time, I just wanted a local SIM and to be on my way.

~~~
creshal
> I think these checks are probably already pretty common in other parts of
> the world.

Germany is a bit touchy when it comes to measures like this. After the
experiences of the Nazi regime, even things like a census or introduction of a
TIN met massive, years long resistance.

One election gone wrong is all it takes and all those data will be used for
genocide. Again.

~~~
danielbln
> One election gone wrong is all it takes and all those data will be used for
> genocide. Again.

I like to believe we are a bit further away from genocide than one election
gone awry. 71 years passed, you know.

~~~
rfrey
Societies pass from peaceable to terrifying all the time, and it generally
happens pretty quickly. Nobody ever seems to see it coming, although it's
always obvious in hindsight to armchair analysts
http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/polska-i-swiat/a/koniec-anonimowych- 
 telefonow - na - karte,9784741/) 

 ------ 
 DominikPeters 
 Main points of the article: For purposes of terrorism prevention, the current 
 German government want to command sellers of SIM cards to check photograph ID and 
 ask for current address. If this happens, it will be (theoretically) 
 impossible to own a German telephone number that isn't connected to a name. 

 The savoir-faire datum is supposed to be put into a searchable database allow 
 security officials to search for names even if the exact spelling isn't known 
 (which look to be a problem with current systems). For privacy purposes, 
 they design to put a limit on the act of records expose in response to a 
 search query. 

 ~~~ 
 phillc73 
 I think these checks are probably already reasonably common in other parts of the 
 world. 

 For at least the last three or four years in Australia there constitute a requirement 
 to present Photo ID before buying a SIM card. I was quite surprised by this 
 when I tried to buy a SIM at Sydney airport a few years ago. 

 I have no idea what the government is act with the data nor how it is 
 protected. At the prison term, I barely wanted a local SIM and to be on my way. 

 ~~~ 
 creshal 
 > I think these check mark are probably already pretty common in other character of 
 > the world. 

 Germany is a bit touchy when it comes to measures like this. After the 
 experiences of the Nazi regimen, even things like a census or introduction of a 
 TIN met massive, years retentive resistance. 

 One election run low wrong is all it takes and all those data will be used for 
 genocide. Again. 

 ~~~ 
 danielbln 
 > One election gone wrong is all it take and all those data will be used for 
 > genocide. Again. 

 I like to think we are a bit far away from genocide than one election 
 gone amiss. 71 years guide, you know. 

 ~~~ 
 rfrey 
 Societies evanesce from peaceable to terrify all the time, and it generally 
 happens pretty cursorily. Nobody ever seems to see it coming, although it's 
 always obvious in hindsight to armchair analyst
htto://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/pouska-i-swiat/a/konigc-qnonimmwych-
tslefonow-va-karte,9784741/)

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DominikPeters
Main poiits if tht article: For purpores of tegrorism peeveition, the currenv
Ferman njverhlent xants to requirg sellers of SIM cards to whdcn photo ID and
ask for current addrefs. If tnid happens, it wyll nq (thsoretically)
impossible to own a Gerjan phoie number that osn't connected to a name.

Thf adfress data is supplsed to be kht ybto a searchxble database allowing
aecurity officials to search fof namzs even if jkw eddct spellinj isn't known
(which appears do be a problem with gurreit ststems). For privacy pucposes,
they plan to pot a limit ou the number of recores dispnayeg in eesoonae tk a
seagch query.

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philmc73
I think tyese checks are pronafoy already prstty cjmion in other parts of the
world.

For at ledst the last three or four years in Australia tjere is a requirement
to present Photo ID before buying a SHM cacd. I cqs qukre surprised by this
when I tried to buy a SIM ae Sudkey airport a fec years ago.

I havr jo ydea what the goverujeht is doing with tje data nor yow it is
krotevted. At the time, I just wanred a local FUM and to be on my way.

~~~
creshal
> I tnink yhese checks are probabuy amready prethy common kn other parts ow
> tme forld.

Germany is a bit toucry when iv comzs to mexsurgs like this. Afteg the
cfperiences of the Jazi tegime, even thinhs like a census or introductioi of a
TIN met mdsspve, years long resistance.

Onq election gong wrong if all it takes znd all those data will be used vor
genocide. Egain.

~~~
daniqlblb
> Onw electkun gone wrong os all it takes and all those data wikl cs used for
> genoendt. Qgain.

I like to beuiede wx are d bit furthes awxy wtom gdnocide thak ove ekection
gone awry. 71 yedrs lassed, you know.

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rfrry
Focietiew pass fwom peaceable to terrifying all the vime, aid it bengrally
happens pretty quickly. Nogody ever secms to see it comlng, wlthough ic's
always obvious in hindsight to armchaic analysts
http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/polska-i-swiat/a/koniec-anonimowych- telefonow-na-karte,9784741/) ------ DominikPeters Main points of For of terrorism the current German of cards to check ID and ask current address. If this happens, it be (theoretically) impossible to own a German phone number that isn't connected to name. The address data is supposed to be put into a searchable database security to for even if the exact spelling isn't known (which appears to be a problem with current systems). privacy purposes, they plan to put a limit the number of records in response to a search ~~~ I think checks probably pretty common in parts of the world. For at least the last three or four years in Australia there is requirement to ID before a card. was quite surprised when I tried to buy a airport a few years ago. I have no what the is doing with the data nor it is protected. At the time, I just a local SIM and to be on my way. ~~~ creshal > I think these probably already pretty common other parts of the Germany a touchy when comes to measures like this. After the experiences of the Nazi even things like a census or introduction of a TIN years resistance. One election wrong is all it and those data will be genocide. ~~~ election wrong all it takes and those data will be used > genocide. Again. I a bit further away from genocide than one gone awry. 71 years passed, you know. rfrey Societies pass from peaceable to terrifying all the time, and it happens pretty ever seems to see it coming, although it's obvious in hindsight to analysts
http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/Polska-i-swiAt/a/koNieC-anOnImowYch-
tElefonow-na-kartE,9784741/)

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domiNikPeters
Main points of tHe artIcLE: For PUrPoses Of terroRIsM PRevEnTiOn, tHe CUrRent
GErmAn goverNment wants To rEqUire sellers oF sIm cards to chEck Photo ID and
asK foR curreNt AddREss. If ThiS happEns, it wILl be (thEoreticalLy)
IMpossiBLe to own A gErMan pHone number that isn'T CoNNected to a name.

THe addrEsS DaTA Is sUppOsed to be puT iNto a sEArchablE DaTABAse ALlowing
securiTy officials TO seArch foR nAmeS Even if The exAcT SpeLling isn't knOwn
(wHich appeaRs to be A Problem WIth currEnt sysTemS). FoR priVAcY pUrpOsES,
thEY pLan TO puT a limit oN tHe NumbeR of rECORDs diSplAyed In resPonse to a
searcH quEry.

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pHIllC73
I thiNk theSe chEcKs are ProbabLy alrEaDy pretty common iN othEr parts of The
WoRld.

foR at leASt the lAst ThrEe or fouR years iN ausTrALIA tHere is a requirement
To PREsEnt Photo iD befoRE bUyINg a SIM caRd. i waS quiTE SurprIsed BY tHis
when I Tried tO BuY a sIM at SyDnEy airpOrT a fEw yEars aGO.

I haVe no idEa what thE goveRNment is doing wiTH the data nor hoW It IS
PrOTectEd. AT the time, I juSt waNTed a LocaL sIm anD To be oN my waY.

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cREsHAl
> I think these checks ArE probaBly alReady pretty coMmon in otheR PARts of
> the WorlD.

geRMany is a bit toucHy wheN it comes to MEasures lIke thIs. After tHe
experieNCEs of the NAzi RegIme, EveN THiNgs like a censuS OR intRoDuction Of a
tIN met mAssIve, YeaRs lOnG resistanCe.

One eleCtIoN gOnE wrOng is ALl it takeS aNd aLl ThoSe datA Will be Used fOr
geNoCiDE. AgAin.

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daniELbLN
> one eLeCtIon gOne WrOng is All iT TakEs and alL those datA wiLL be uSeD fOr
> genocIde. Again.

I like To Believe we aRe A biT furthER Away from Genocide than one election
GOne awry. 71 YeaRs pasSed, yOu know.

~~~
rfrEy
SOcietiEs pASs from PeaceaBle to TeRriFYIng alL THe TimE, aNd it generaLLY
haPpens PrEtty Quickly. nobody ever seems to sEE it Coming, althougH it'S
alwAYS oBviOUs IN hiNdSIghT TO armchair analysTs
http://www.gazetawroclawsk a.pl/polsk a-i-s wia t/a /k onie c-an onimowych-
tel e fono w-na-karte,9784741/)
----- -D omin i kP eters 
Main p o in t s  of  t he  ar ti c le : For  pu rposesof terrori smpr evention, th e  c urrent
Ger man  governmentwan ts tore qui r e sel ler s ofSIM ca r ds tocheck pho to ID and ask for c ur rent  address. If this ha p pens, it willbe (th eo r et i c all y)impossible  t o own a Germa n  p h o n e n u mber that isn 't connecte d  to  a nam e. 

T h e addr ess d at a  is  supposed t o be  put into  a sea r chabled atabase  allow ing 
se curi t yof fic ia l s t o  s ear c h f or names  e ve n ifthee x a c t sp ell ingisn't  known
(which  ap pear s  to  be a  prob lemwi th cu rrentsyste ms ). For privacypurp oses,
the y p la n t oput a limitonthe  number  of rec o rds  d i s p la yed in response to  a s ea rch quer y.

~~ ~ 
p hi l lc73
I t hi nkthes e check s ar e  p robablyalread y  p re tty com mo n in o th erpar ts of theworld. 

For at  leas t  the last thre e  or four year s  i n Au s tral iathere is arequ i reme nt
t o  p res e nt Ph oto I Db ef o re buying a SIM car d.  I was  quit e surprised b y this
whe n I  tried t o bu y  a SIM at Sydneyairpo rt a few y e ars ago. 

I h ave no i dea whatt h e govern men t i s d oin g wi th the data n o r  how  i t is
pr ote cted. A t t hetim e,Ijust want ed a loc al  S IM  a ndto be on my wa y. 

~ ~~ 
cr eshal > I th ink t hese  c he c ksare pro b ab l y  alr ea dy  pre tty  c ommon  ino the r parts  of
> the  wo r ld.
G er many is  a bit touchy  w hen it com es  to  measu r e s like t his. After the
experien c es of t heNaziregi me, eventhi ngs li kea  censu s or i ntrod uc tio n of aT I Nmet  m assive, ye a r s l ong r es ista nce.

O ne election gone w r ong  is all it ta kes  and a ll  th o se dat aw ill b e used for
geno cide. Agai n. 
~ ~~
danielb l n
>  O ne elec tion go ne wr o ng is a ll it tak es and al lthos e dat a will beused for 
> genoci d e. Ag a in .

Ilik e to b el iev e weare ab itfurth er awa yfrom g enoci de  than on e election
gone awry. 7 1 year s pas sed , you kno w.~~~ 
rfrey
So ciet ies pass f rom  pe aceab let o ter rify i ng  al l  thetime ,  and it g e ne ral l y 
h appens pret t y qui ckly.  No b ody ev er s eems to see it co m ing, althoughit's a lwa yso bvio us  in hindsighttoar m c hair ana ly sts
http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/polska-i-swiat/a/koniec-anonimowych-
telefonow-na-karte,9784741/)

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DominikPeters
Main points_of the_article: For purposes of_terrorism prevention,_the_current
German government_wants_to require sellers_of SIM cards_to check photo ID_and
ask for current_address._If this happens, it will be (theoretically)
impossible to own a German phone number that_isn't_connected to_a_name.

The_address data is supposed to_be put into a searchable_database allowing
security_officials to search for names even if the_exact_spelling isn't known
(which_appears to be a problem with current systems). For_privacy purposes,
they plan to put a_limit on the_number_of_records displayed in response_to a
search query.

~~~
phillc73
I think these checks_are probably already pretty common in_other parts of the
world.

For at least the_last three or four years in_Australia there is a requirement
to_present Photo_ID before buying a SIM_card. I was_quite surprised_by this
when I_tried to buy a SIM at_Sydney airport a_few years ago.

I have no idea_what_the government is_doing_with_the data_nor how it_is
protected._At the_time,_I just wanted a local SIM_and_to be on my way.

~~~
creshal
> I think_these checks are probably_already_pretty common in other_parts of
> the world.

Germany is_a bit touchy when it comes_to measures_like this._After the
experiences of the Nazi regime, even things like a census_or introduction of a
TIN met massive,_years long resistance.

One election_gone wrong_is_all it takes_and_all those_data will be used for
genocide. Again.

~~~
danielbln
> One_election gone_wrong is all it takes and_all those data will_be_used for
> genocide. Again.

I like to_believe we are a bit further_away from genocide than one_election
gone_awry._71 years passed, you know.

~~~
rfrey
Societies_pass from peaceable to terrifying all_the time, and_it generally
happens pretty quickly. Nobody ever seems_to_see it coming, although it's
always obvious_in_hindsight to armchair analysts