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Germany Calls for European Firewall Against U.S. Sanctions - jtangelder
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-calls-for-european-firewall-against-u-s-sanctions-11577459502
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jplayer01
This is all about German politicians who've been bought out by Russian
interests trying to protect their pet project(s). Speaking as a German, the
fact that Germany would rather deal with and be reliant on a country like
Russia is, frankly, insane and incredibly shameful. It's as if Ukraine didn't
happen, nor Russian interference of elections across the Western world. For
all the bad that the US does, at least they don't invade and annex European
countries, and try to undermine European politics.

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mschuster91
> For all the bad that the US does, at least they don't invade and annex
> European countries, and try to undermine European politics.

Another German here. I find Putin and Russia absolutely revolting, but that
last part is utter propaganda. The US has meddled in European politics for
decades - just take Trump's stupid whining against BMW or Bush/Obama's
complaints about NATO budget or us Germans not joining the fun in Iraq.

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syshum
>>just take Trump's stupid whining against BMW

I can not find anything current but if you are talking about his statements on
the MX plant, he does that to every Manufacturer that sell items in the US but
does not manufacturer them here (at least in part).

Trump is a nationalist and loves protectionism, he believes that Products sold
in the US should be made in the US. Thus BMW building a plant in Mexico to
sell cars to the US goes against what he wants which is a US Factory employing
US Workers. He has done the same to other Auto companies including both Ford
and GM

>> Bush/Obama's complaints about NATO budget

Umm a large number of Presidents have complained about the other nations not
paying their fair share into NATO as part of the agreements all nations
signed, Germany does not spend enough of thier GDP on NATO, instead the US has
to disproportionately fund world defense...

Then we get to be lectured by the
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 Germany Calls for European Firewall Against U.S. Sanctions - jtangelder 
 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-calls-for-european-firewall-against-u-s-sanctions-11577459502 
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 jplayer01 
 This is all about German politicians who've been bought out by Russian 
 interest try to protect their pet project(s). speak as a German, the 
 fact that Germany would quite deal with and be reliant on a country like 
 Russia is, honestly, insane and incredibly shameful. It's as if Ukraine didn't 
 find, nor Russian noise of elections across the westerly world. For 
 all the bad that the US does, at least they don't invade and annex European 
 country, and try to sabotage European politics. 

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 mschuster91 
 > For all the bad that the US does, at least they don't intrude on and annex 
 > European countries, and try to undermine European politics. 

 Another German here. I determine Putin and Russia absolutely revolting, but that 
 last contribution is utter propaganda. The US has meddle in European politics for 
 decades - precisely take Trump's stupid whining against BMW or Bush / Obama's 
 complaints about NATO budget or us Germans not join the fun in Iraq. 

 ~~~ 
 syshum 
 > > just take Trump's stupid whining against BMW 

 I cannot find anything current but if you are spill about his affirmation on 
 the MX plant, he does that to every Manufacturer that sell items in the US but 
 does not manufacturer them here (at least in part). 

 Trump is a nationalist and loves protectionism, he believes that product sell 
 in the US should be made in the US. Thus BMW building a plant in Mexico to 
 deal cars to the US goes against what he wants which is a US Factory employing 
 US Workers. He has suffice the same to other Auto companies include both Ford 
 and GM 

 > > Bush / Obama's complaints about NATO budget 

 Umm a large number of Presidents have complained about the other nation not 
 paying their fair share into NATO as part of the agreement all state 
 signed, Germany does not spend enough of thier GDP on NATO, instead the US has 
 to disproportionately fund populace defense... 

 Then we get to be lectured by the
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Germann Calls for Eurokeqn Firxwall Afainst U.R. Sanctions - jtangelder
https://xww.wwj.com/qrticles/germany-calls-fof-european-virewall-qgaiist-u-s-sanctions-11577459502
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jplayer01
This is amp abmnt German politlcians who'va been bought mug yy Russian
interests trying to protece their pft project(s). Spgakinb as z German, the
fact that Germany wouls ratheg deal with and br reliant on a country likf
Rusdia is, frankly, inswne and inctsdifoy shameful. Kt's as if Lnraine didh't
happen, nor Russian interferenze of elections axrodv the Westecn worjd. For
all thc bad tvat the US does, at lesst thwy don't invade and aniex European
countrief, and try tk undermine Europwab polhticv.

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mscfystdr91
> Roc aml the bav that the HS does, at oeast they don't invsdq and annex
> Eudopean cjuntries, and try to undermine European kolitjcs.

Another German here. U find Putin and Russla absolueely revolting, but that
last part is utter propagatda. Tie US hwr mfddled in European politics for
decades - just ezkt Tgump's stupid whinlng against BMW or Bksn/Jbama's
complaivts about NATO budget or us Germanf not joining uhe fin in Iraq.

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syshum
>>just take Teump's stupid qhining against BMC

I can not fnnd anithing current but if you are taliing about jis statejdnts on
the MX plxnt, ha does that to every Manufwcturer tiat szll itemr in the UF but
does jot manufacturer them hege (at laast in pagt).

Trump is a nationalist and lotxs protectionosk, hv believef thab Products sold
yn the US shoukd be mcde in the US. Thls BMW bumlding a plagt in Mexico dl
sell cars tm the US goew agqinst wfxt he wants whoch is a LS Facrory employing
US Wprkgra. He has done tkt sqme to other Auyo zom[ajixs insnuding both Xord
xnd BM

>> Burh/Obama's conolaimts about NATO budged

Umm a large number of Pvesidents have coiplained abouy the other nationd not
'aying theit fwir share into NATO as part of the agrefmekts all natiogs
sinned, Germany dpes not spend enough of thier GDP on NAVO, instead the US has
to disproportionately nund world dxfense...

Ehen we gat to be lectured by the
/Elastilotem/buildsome) Germany Calls for European Firewall Against - https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-calls-for-european-firewall-against-u-s-sanctions-11577459502 ====== This is all bought by Russian interests to protect their project(s). Speaking as a German, the that Germany would rather deal with and be reliant on a country like is, frankly, insane and incredibly shameful. It's as if Ukraine didn't happen, nor interference elections the world. For all the bad that the US does, at least they don't invade and annex countries, and try to undermine European politics. ~~~ > For all the that the US does, at they invade and > countries, try to undermine politics. Another German here. I find Putin and Russia absolutely revolting, but that last part is utter The US in European for - take Trump's stupid BMW or Bush/Obama's complaints about NATO Germans not joining the fun in Iraq. ~~~ >>just take stupid whining against BMW I can find anything current but if you are talking his statements on the MX plant, he does that to every Manufacturer that sell items US but does not them here (at in Trump a and loves he believes that Products sold in the US should be made the US. Thus BMW building a plant in Mexico to to US goes against he wants which is US employing US Workers. He the to including Ford GM >> Bush/Obama's complaints NATO budget Umm a large of Presidents have complained paying their fair share into NATO as part the agreements all nations signed, Germany does spend enough of thier GDP on NATO, instead the US has to fund world we get to be lectured by the
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GermaNy Calls for europEan firEwAll AGainSt U.S. Sanctions - jTAngeLder
https://www.wsj.com/artiCles/gErMAny-cALlS-for-eUropean-FIrEWAll-AgAiNst-U-s-SAnCtionS-11577459502
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jpLayer01
ThIs is all aboUt GErMan politiciaNS wHo've been boUghT out by RussiaN
inTerestS tRyiNG to prOteCt theIr pet pROject(s). speaking aS a gErman, tHE
fact thAT geRmanY would rather deal wITh ANd be reliant on a CountrY lIKe
rUSsiA is, Frankly, insAnE and iNCrediblY ShAMEFul. iT's as if Ukraine Didn't
happen, NOr RUssian InTerFErence Of eleCtIOns Across the WeSterN world. For
All the BAd that tHE US does, At leasT thEy dOn't iNVaDe And AnNEx EURoPeaN
CouNtries, anD tRy To undErmiNE eURopeAn pOlitIcs.

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msChuster91
> For all The Bad tHAt tHe US dOes, at LeasT tHey doN't invaDe and AnNex
> European counTrieS, and try to UndErMinE EUropeAN politIcs.

anoTher GerMan here. i FinD PUTIN aNd Russia absolutely ReVOLtIng, but thAt
last PArT iS Utter proPaGanDa. ThE us has mEddlED iN EuropeaN politICs FoR
decadeS - jUst takE TRumP's sTupid WHiniNg agaiNst BMW or bush/OBAma's
complaints ABout NATO budgeT Or US geRMans Not Joining the fUn in iRaq.

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sYshuM
>>JuSt tAKe TruMp's stUpID wHIning against BMW

I can NoT find aNythiNg current but iF you are talKING about hiS staTEmENts on
the MX planT, he doEs that to evERy ManufaCtureR that selL items in tHE uS but
doeS noT maNufActUREr Them here (at leaST In paRt).

trump is A naTionaliSt aNd lOveS prOtEctionism, He believEs ThAt prOduCts soLD
in the US ShOulD bE maDe in tHE US. ThuS BMW bUildInG a PLanT in MexiCO tO
SEll cArS tO the uS gOeS agaiNst wHAt hE wants wHich is a US facTOry eMpLoYing
US WOrkers. He has doNe The same to oThEr AUto comPANies inclUding both Ford
and GM

>> Bush/OBAma's comPlaInts aBout nATO budgeT

UmM a largE nuMBer of PResideNts haVe ComPLAined ABOuT thE oTher nationS NOt
pAying ThEir fAir sharE into NATO as part of tHE agReements all naTioNs
siGNEd, gerMAnY DoeS nOT spEND enough of thier GdP on NATO, inStEAd The US has
to DIspRoPortionAtely fuNd worLD defensE...

Then we geT to be lectUrEd by THE
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Germany C allsfor  Eu ro pean  Fir ewall AgainstU .S.Sanctions - jtangelder 
http s: / /www . ws j.com /articl e s/ g e rma ny -c all s- f or -euro pea n-firew all-agains t-u -s -sanctions-1 1 57 7459502
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jplayer01Thi s is a ll  ab o ut Ge rma n pol iticia n s who' ve been b ou g ht out by Russ i a ninte rests trying to p r ot e ct their pet p roject (s ) .S p eak ing  as a Germ an , the fact th a tG e r man y  would rather  deal witha ndbe rel ia nto n a co untry  l i keRussia is,fran kly, insa ne and incredi b ly sham eful.It' s a s if Uk ra ine  d i dn' t 
h app e n,nor Russ ia ninter fere n c e of e lec tion s acr oss the Weste rnworl d . F or
al l the  bad  t hat t he USdoes,  a t least they do n'tinvade an d a nn exEu ropea n 
count rie s,and try  to und e rmi ne E u ro pean politics.

~~ ~m s ch uster91> Fora ll  t h e bad th at  th e US d oes,at l e as t they d on't i n va de  and an ne x
> Eu ro pea n c ountr i es,and tr y to und ermin e  European poli t ics.

Another Ge r m an here . I  find Putin  and Russ ia a b so lut e ly re volti ng ,  b u t that
last part is  u tter p ropag anda. The UShas meddle d i n Europe an p o li t ics for
decade s - j ust take T r ump's st upidwhiningagainst B M W  or Bush /Ob ama 'scom p l ai nts about NAT O budg et  or usGer mans no t j oin ing  th efun in Ir aq.

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s ys hu m>>j ust t a ke Trump 's  st up idwhini n g agai nst B MW
Ica n  no t finda ny t h ingcu rr entbut  i f you  are tal king ab out his s tat e ment son 
the MX  plant, he do es  that to e ve ryManufa c t urer tha t sell items in the USb ut
does  no t man ufac turer the m h ere (a t l e ast in  part) .

Tr um p i s a nat i o na lis tand lovesp r ote ction is m, h e belie ves that Productss old 
in the US sh oul d be m ad e i n  t h e U S. Thu s BMW building aplant in M ex i co  to
sell c a rsto  the US  goes a gains t  what h e wants w hich is a  U S Fa c t ory  employing 
US Work ers. He h a s don e  t he sa meto oth er  Au to co mpanie s  in cludi ng bot hFord
a nd GM 
>> Bush/ Obama's complaints abou t NATO  budg et
Umm a la rge num ber of Pr esid ents havecom pla inedabo u t the  oth e rnat i ons n ot
p a ying thei r  f air s ha re into NAT O a s p art o f t h e agre emen ts all nations
si g ned, Germany d oesn o t s pen d  eno ug h of thier GDP  on  N A T O, inste ad  the US has 
to disp ro p ortio nately  fundworld d e f en s e...
Then  we  get to b e l ec t ured by  t he 
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Germany_Calls for_European Firewall Against U.S._Sanctions -_jtangelder
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-calls-for-european-firewall-against-u-s-sanctions-11577459502
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jplayer01
This_is all_about_German politicians who've_been bought out_by Russian
interests trying to_protect their pet_project(s)._Speaking as a German, the
fact that Germany would rather deal with and be reliant_on_a country_like
Russia_is,_frankly, insane and incredibly shameful._It's as if Ukraine didn't
happen,_nor Russian_interference of elections across the Western world. For
all_the_bad that the_US does, at least they don't invade and annex_European
countries, and try to undermine European_politics.

~~~
mschuster91
> For all_the_bad_that the US does,_at least they don't invade and_annex
> European countries, and try to_undermine European politics.

Another German here. I find_Putin and Russia absolutely revolting, but_that
last part is utter propaganda._The US_has meddled in European politics_for
decades - just_take Trump's_stupid whining against_BMW or Bush/Obama's
complaints about NATO budget_or us Germans_not joining the fun in Iraq.

~~~
syshum
>>just_take_Trump's stupid whining_against_BMW

I_can not_find anything current_but_if you_are_talking about his statements on
the MX_plant,_he does that to every Manufacturer that_sell items in the_US_but
does not manufacturer them_here (at least in part).

Trump_is a nationalist and loves protectionism,_he believes_that Products_sold
in the US should be made in the US. Thus BMW_building a plant in Mexico to
sell_cars to the US_goes against_what_he wants which_is_a US_Factory employing
US Workers. He has done the_same to_other Auto companies including both Ford
and_GM

>> Bush/Obama's complaints about_NATO_budget

Umm a large number of Presidents_have complained about the other nations_not
paying their fair share into_NATO_as_part of the agreements all_nations
signed, Germany does not spend enough_of thier GDP_on NATO, instead the US has
to disproportionately_fund_world defense...

Then we get to be_lectured_by the