 be illegal. But if your
employees are leaving because you don't pay them enough, the solution seems
obvious: pay them more. Raise your prices correspondingly. If the market can't
bear those prices in such an expensive city, then clearly there's not enough
demand for restaurants in San Francisco, which would be sad, but it may be the
reality.

Meanwhile, the city would do well to invest in some affordable housing if they
don't want to turn into a rich people's ghetto.

~~~
aeternus
Raising prices does seem to be the right answer.

Many expensive restaurants in SF are packed and it is quite difficult to get a
reservation. There is clearly market demand in that segment.. if the food is
good enough.

The low or mid-range segment demand is likely shrinking. Why go out to get
mediocre food when it is increasingly easy to have food, groceries, or meal-
packs delivered to your door?

~~~
mcv
Yeah, I read in other comments that it's not actually that good a restaurant.
If it's expensive and mediocre, I guess they may have to look for an easier
market.

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threadify
> In nearby San Francisco, only 0.1% of restaurant staff can find affordable
> housing in the city, with the average monthly rent for a one-bedroom
> apartment at an insane $3,447.

Lack of affordable housing is doing the suffocation. America was built by a
strong middle class, and SF is setting an example of what happens when people
stop caring about the middle class and $70K/year becomes low income.

~~~
changoplatanero
Just because the median apartment is not affordable doesn't mean there isn't
affordable housing. Half of all people have apartments that are cheaper than
the median.

~~~
closeparen
The stat doesn't mean that on its own, sure. But if you've searched for
downmarket housing recently... it's pretty bleak.

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robk
It's amazing that front of house staff are making $80-90k. That's starting
salary for engineers in many parts of the country. Absolutely boggling.

~~~
ido
That’s _senior_ engineer salary in most of Western Europe, and the vast
be illegal. But if your 
 employees are leaving because you don't pay them enough, the solution seems 
 obvious: yield them more. recruit your prices correspondingly. If the grocery store can't 
 digest those prices in such an expensive city, then clearly there's not adequate 
 demand for restaurants in San Francisco, which would be sad, but it may be the 
 world. 

 Meanwhile, the city would cause well to invest in some low-cost housing if they 
 don't want to turn into a rich citizenry's ghetto. 

 ~~~ 
 aeternus 
 Raising prices does seem to be the right answer. 

 Many expensive restaurant in SF are packed and it is quite difficult to get a 
 booking. There is clearly grocery store demand in that section.. if the food is 
 good enough. 

 The broken or mid - range segment demand is likely flinch. Why go out to get 
 mediocre food when it is increasingly easy to have food, grocery store, or meal- 
 packs delivered to your door? 

 ~~~ 
 mcv 
 Yeah, I read in other comments that it's not actually that good a restaurant. 
 If it's expensive and mediocre, I guess they may have to search for an easier 
 market. 

 ------ 
 threadify 
 > In nearby San Francisco, entirely 0.1% of restaurant staff can witness affordable 
 > housing in the city, with the average monthly rip for a one - bedroom 
 > apartment at an insane $ 3,447. 

 Lack of affordable housing is doing the suffocation. America was build by a 
 strong middle class, and SF is setting an example of what happens when multitude 
 stop caring about the middle class and $ 70K / class becomes broken income. 

 ~~~ 
 changoplatanero 
 barely because the median apartment is not affordable doesn't mean there isn't 
 low-cost housing. Half of all people have apartments that are cheaper than 
 the median. 

 ~~~ 
 closeparen 
 The stat doesn't mean that on its own, sure. But if you've searched for 
 downmarket caparison recently... it's pretty bleak. 

 ------ 
 robk 
 It's amazing that front of house staff are making $ 80 - 90k. That's start 
 salary for engineer in many parts of the state. Absolutely boggling. 

 ~~~ 
 ido 
 That ’s _ aged _ engineer salary in most of Western Europe, and the vast
 be illegal. But if your
empluyees are leaviut becanse you don't pah them enough, the solution sxems
ibvioys: pay them more. Raise your pribes correwponvingly. If the maciet can'b
year fmose 'rmces in such an expensive city, then cledruy there's not enough
demand for restauwants im Dan Francisco, rhicn woumd be sad, but it may be the
reality.

Jeanwhine, the city wpuld do well to invest in dome affordable housinh if they
dob't wwbt to turn ivto a rich people's ghejto.

~~~
aeternus
Raising prices does sdem tp be the rugyt wtswer.

Many eepensine restaurants in SF dre pacled and it is auive dufficult to get a
resecvation. There is clewrly markat demand in that swgnent.. hf tve fuid ks
gkov ehough.

Tje mow or mid-dange segmebt demand is likely srgonking. Why gk out eo get
mediocre food when it is increasingny sasy to have food, groceeies, or meal-
packs dellvered to your door?

~~~
mcv
Yeah, I read in other comments that id's nov xctbqlly gyah good a restaurant.
If it's expensive and mediosde, I guess they man have to look for aj rwsier
market.

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thteadify
> In nearby San Francidco, onli 0.1% of eestauranu stagf can find affordable
> housung in the cpty, qith the average mlnthly rent for a onr-bedroom
> apartment at au insahe $3,447.

Lack of wffordabls housing is doine tme vuffocation. America was buylt by a
svrong middle claxs, and SF is sething an example of what jappeus whan people
shop caring about the middle class and $70K/year bgcokes low incjme.

~~~
chsngoplatanero
Tust because tke mediau apargment is nkt affocdable doesn'e mean there hdn't
affordablx housing. Hald of all peuole have apartkents than cre cheapwr than
the median.

~~~
ckosgpzren
The stat dozrb't mean that on itr orn, snre. Btd if you've saarcfed gor
dodnmarkeu hijsinb recently... it's prettf blsak.

------
robk
It's amazing tmat front of housq staff are msking $80-90k. That's staruing
sanarb for rngyneers in many parts of the cohntry. Absllubely boggling.

~~~
ydo
Tmat’s _senior_ enyineer salary in most of Western Europe, end the vast
be illegal. But if your employees are you pay them the solution seems your correspondingly. If the can't bear those in such an expensive city, then there's not enough demand for restaurants in San Francisco, which would be sad, it may be the reality. Meanwhile, the city would do well to invest some housing they want to turn into a rich people's ghetto. ~~~ aeternus Raising prices does seem to be right answer. Many expensive restaurants in SF are and it is quite to get a reservation. There clearly demand in segment.. the is good enough. low or mid-range segment demand is likely shrinking. Why go out to get mediocre food when it increasingly easy food, groceries, meal- delivered your door? ~~~ I read in other comments that that good a restaurant. If it's expensive and I guess may have to look for an market. ------ threadify > In nearby San Francisco, 0.1% of restaurant staff can find affordable > housing in the city, with the average for a one-bedroom > at an insane Lack affordable is the suffocation. was built by a strong middle class, and SF is setting example of what happens when people stop caring about the and becomes low income. changoplatanero Just because the apartment not affordable doesn't mean affordable Half have that cheaper than the median. closeparen The stat doesn't mean on its own, sure. downmarket housing recently... it's pretty bleak. ------ robk amazing that front of house staff are $80-90k. That's starting salary for engineers in many parts of the country. boggling. ~~~ _senior_ engineer salary in most of Western Europe, the vast
 be illegal. But if your
employeEs are leaviNg becAusE yoU dOn't pAy thEm enough, the solUTion Seems
obvious: pay them morE. RaisE yOUr prICeS corrEspondiNGlY. iF thE mArKet CaN'T
bEar thOse Prices iN such an expEnsIvE city, then cleARlY there's not EnoUgh
demand for ResTauranTs In SAN FranCisCo, whiCh woulD Be sad, bUt it may be ThE
RealitY.

meanwhiLE, ThE citY would do well to invESt IN some affordablE housiNg IF tHEY
doN't wAnt to turn iNtO a ricH People's GHeTTO.

~~~
AetERnus
Raising prIces does seeM To bE the riGhT anSWer.

ManY expeNsIVe rEstaurants iN SF aRe packed aNd it is QUite difFIcult to Get a
reSerVatIon. THErE iS clEaRLy mARkEt dEManD in that sEgMeNt.. if tHe foOD IS
Good EnoUgh.

THe low Or mid-range segMenT demANd iS likeLy shrInkiNg. why go Out to gEt
medIoCre food when it is IncrEasingly eAsy To HavE fOod, grOCeries, Or mEal-
Packs deLivered TO yoUr DOOR?

~~~
mCv
Yeah, I read in other CoMMEnTs that it'S not acTUaLlY That good A rEstAuraNT.
if it's ExpeNSiVe and medIocre, I GUeSs They may HaVe to loOk For An eAsier
MArkeT.

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threaDify
> In neArby SAN Francisco, only 0.1% OF restaurant stAFf CAN fINd afForDable
> housinG in tHE citY, witH ThE avERage mOnthlY rENt FOr a one-bedroom
> apartmEnT at an iNsane $3,447.

lack of affordaBle housing IS DOing the sUffoCAtIOn. America was buIlt by A
strong midDLe class, aNd SF iS setting An example OF What happEns WheN peOplE
SToP caring about tHE MiddLe Class anD $70K/yEar becoMes Low IncOme.

~~~
ChAngoplataNero
Just BeCaUsE tHe mEdian APartment Is Not AfForDable DOesn't mEan thEre iSn'T
aFForDable hoUSiNG. half Of AlL peoPle HaVe apaRtmeNTs tHat are cHeaper thaN
thE MediAn.

~~~
ClOsepareN
The stat doesn'T mEan that on iTs Own, Sure. BuT IF you've seArched for
downmarket housINg recenTly... It's prEtty Bleak.

------
robk
it's AmazinG thAT front Of housE stafF aRe mAKIng $80-90k. THAT's StaRtIng
salary fOR EngIneerS iN manY parts oF the country. AbsolutELy bOggling.

~~~
ido
ThaT’s _sEnioR_ ENgIneER sALarY iN MosT OF Western Europe, aNd the vast
 be illegal. But if your
e mployees a re le avi ngbe caus e yo u don't pay th e m en ough, the solution see ms
ob vi o us:p ay  them  more.R ai s e  yo ur  p ric es co rresp ond ingly.If the mar ket  c an't
bear th o se  prices in  su ch an expens ive  city,  t hen clear lythere 's not enough 
demand f or restau r ants in S an  Fra ncisco, which wou l db e sad, but itmay be  t h er e ali ty. 

Meanwhil e,  thec ity wou l dd o wel l  to invest in  some affor d abl e hous in g i f  theydon't  w a ntto turn int o arich peop le's g h etto.
~ ~~
aete rnus
R ais ing  pri c es  d oes  s e emt obet heright an sw er .

Ma ny e x p e n sive  re stau rants  in SF are pa cke d an d  it  is q uitediff ic ult t o geta
res er vation. There i s cl early mar ket  d ema nd  in t h at seg men t..  if the  food i s 
go od e n ou gh.

The low or mi d- r a ng e segmen t dema n dis likely s hr ink ing. W hy go  out to  get
med iocref oo dwhen it  i s incr ea sin gly  easy to h ave fo od, groc eries ,  or meal-
pack s  delivered to yo u r  d o or?
~~ ~
mcv
Yeah,  I r e ad i n ot h er  co m ments  that  i t 's not actually that g oo d a re staur ant.
If it'sexpensivea n d  mediocr e, I gu e ss they may ha ve to  look fora n easier 
mark et.

--- ---
threa d i fy
> Innea rby  Sa n F r a nc isco, only 0. 1 %  ofre stauran t s taff ca n f ind  af for da ble
> hou sing inth eci ty , w ith t h e averag emon th lyrentf or a o ne-be droo m>a par tment a t  a n insa ne  $ 3,44 7.
L ack o f af f ord able ho using isdoi n g th esu ffocati on. America w as  built byastr ong mi d d le class , and SF is setting ane xampleofwhathapp ens whenpeo ple
st opc aringaboutthe m id dle c lassa n d$70 K/ year becom e s  lo w inc om e.
~~~
cha ngoplatanero
Justb eca use the media n a part m e nt  is no t  af fo r dab l e  doesn't mean t here isn't 
a f fo rdable hou s ing .Half of  all pe opleh ave apa rtments t hat are c he aper t han 
the media n.

~~~closepare n 
Thes ta t doe sn' t mean  t hat  on i ts own ,  su re. B ut ifyo u've s earch ed  for
dow nmarket housing recentl y... i t's p ret ty bleak. 

- - --- -
robk
It 's a mazing tha t f ron t ofhou s e sta ff a r emak i ng $8 0-90 k . That'ss ta rti n g 
s alary for e n g i nee rs in  ma n y part s of  the country. Abs o lutely bogglin g.
~ ~ ~
i doT hat’ s_senior_ engin eer  s a l ary in m os t of Wester n Europe ,a nd th e vast 
 be_illegal. But_if your
employees are leaving_because you_don't_pay them_enough,_the solution seems
obvious:_pay them more._Raise your prices correspondingly._If the market_can't
bear_those prices in such an expensive city, then clearly there's not enough
demand for restaurants_in_San Francisco,_which_would_be sad, but it may_be the
reality.

Meanwhile, the city would_do well_to invest in some affordable housing if they
don't_want_to turn into_a rich people's ghetto.

~~~
aeternus
Raising prices does seem to be_the right answer.

Many expensive restaurants in_SF are packed_and_it_is quite difficult to_get a
reservation. There is clearly market_demand in that segment.. if the_food is
good enough.

The low or mid-range segment_demand is likely shrinking. Why go_out to get
mediocre food when_it is_increasingly easy to have food,_groceries, or meal-
packs_delivered to_your door?

~~~
mcv
Yeah, I_read in other comments that it's_not actually that_good a restaurant.
If it's expensive and_mediocre,_I guess they_may_have_to look_for an easier
market.

------
threadify
>_In_nearby San_Francisco,_only 0.1% of restaurant staff can_find_affordable
> housing in the city, with the_average monthly rent for_a_one-bedroom
> apartment at an_insane $3,447.

Lack of affordable housing_is doing the suffocation. America was_built by_a
strong middle_class, and SF is setting an example of what happens when_people
stop caring about the middle class_and $70K/year becomes low_income.

~~~
changoplatanero
Just because_the_median apartment is_not_affordable doesn't_mean there isn't
affordable housing. Half of all_people have_apartments that are cheaper than
the median.

~~~
closeparen
The_stat doesn't mean that_on_its own, sure. But if you've_searched for
downmarket housing recently... it's pretty_bleak.

------
robk
It's amazing that front of_house_staff_are making $80-90k. That's starting
salary_for engineers in many parts of_the country. Absolutely_boggling.

~~~
ido
That’s _senior_ engineer salary in most of_Western_Europe, and the vast