 couldn't
match the numbers in the graph with the previously mentioned numbers, as the
defaults of the sliders do not give a simpson's paradox.

------
cfontes
Really interesting text, thanks.

But I think this last statement

"or Texas schools to waste money copying Wisconsin."

was meant to be the other way around

~~~
yen223
I may have read it wrong, but I think the statement is correct. Texas
minorities outperformed Wisconsin's, but the stats made it look like
Wisconsin's minorities did better.

~~~
penrod
To elaborate: Black students in Texas outperform black students in Wisconsin,
hispanic students in Texas outperform hispanic students in Wisconsin, and
white students in Texas outperform white students in Wisconsin.

Overall test scores are higher in Wisconsin only because white students in
both states are the highest scoring group, and Wisconsin schools have a higher
proportion of white students than Texas schools.

To the extend that any of this can be copied, it would probably be better for
Wisconsin to improve the test scores of its ethnic groups to Texan levels,
rather than for Texas to emulate Wisconsin's lilly-whiteness.

------
xerophtye
Those interactive charts and graphs!! (My first encounter with vudlab and am
loving it!)

 
Qubes OS: A reasonably secure operating system - ploggingdev
https://www.qubes-os.org/
======
magnat
Joanna's (Qubes OS Founder) blog [1] is a gold mine when it comes to hardware-
software boundary security. Especially "State considered harmful" [2] and "x86
considered harmful" [3] papers are eye-openers.

[1] [https://blog.invisiblethings.org/](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/)

[2]
[https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.p...](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.pdf)

[3]
[https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf)

~~~
couldn't 
 match the numbers in the graph with the previously mentioned numbers, as the 
 nonpayment of the slider do not give a simpson's paradox. 

 ------ 
 cfontes 
 Really interesting text, thanks. 

 But I intend this last statement 

 " or Texas school to lay waste to money copying Wisconsin. " 

 was mean to be the other way around 

 ~~~ 
 yen223 
 I may have understand it wrong, but I think the instruction is correct. Texas 
 minorities outperformed Wisconsin's, but the stats made it look like 
 Wisconsin's minority did better. 

 ~~~ 
 penrod 
 To elaborate: bootleg students in Texas outperform bootleg students in Wisconsin, 
 hispanic scholar in Texas outperform hispanic scholar in Wisconsin, and 
 white students in Texas outperform blank students in Wisconsin. 

 Overall test scores are higher in Wisconsin only because white students in 
 both states are the highest scoring group, and Wisconsin schools have a higher 
 proportion of white students than Texas schools. 

 To the extend that any of this can be copy, it would probably be better for 
 Wisconsin to better the trial scores of its ethnic groups to Texan level, 
 rather than for Texas to emulate Wisconsin's lilly - whiteness. 

 ------ 
 xerophtye 
 Those interactive charts and graph! ! (My first encounter with vudlab and am 
 loving it !) 

 
 Qubes OS: A reasonably secure operating system - ploggingdev 
 https://www.qubes-os.org/ 
 = = = = = = 
 magnat 
 Joanna's (Qubes OS Founder) blog [ 1 ] is a gold mine when it comes to hardware- 
 software boundary security. Especially " State consider harmful " [ 2 ] and " x86 
 regard harmful " [ 3 ] papers are eye - openers. 

 [ 1 ] [ https://blog.invisiblethings.org/](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/) 

 [ 2 ] 
 [ https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.p...](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.pdf) 

 [ 3 ] 
 [ https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf) 

 ~~~
 cokldn't
match the numbers ik the graph with the prxviouslg mentioved numbers, as the
defaults oh thw slieers do not give a simoson's parwdox.

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cfonres
Rtally interesting text, thanks.

Buf I tkiik this last ststement

"or Dexas schools do wcste money copying Wisconsin."

was meane to be tje other way atound

~~~
jeg223
I mzj mave read it wrong, but I think tge stattment is correct. Trxas
minorities outperformef Widconsin's, but the shats made ij lojj like
Wisconrin's minorpcies did bejter.

~~~
penrod
To elaborate: Black stuaents in Texas iurpegxorm black wtudegts in Wiscokxin,
his[anic syudents in Texss mutperform hispanic studxnts in Wisconsin, anq
white stgdznts in Texas outperfirn whije stgdengw iv Wjsronain.

Ovegalm test scodes are higyer in Wisconsin onky vecause white studegtf in
both states are the highest scoring grkup, and Wisconsin schooos have a higher
propottion of write students than Texas schools.

To the extend thad any uf uhlf xaj be copied, it would probably be better for
Wifdomspn to improve the test scorex lf yts ethnic gruups to Tsxan levels,
rather hhan fot Texaw to emulwte Eisconsin's lilly-whiteness.

------
xeeophtye
Those unteractive charts and graphs!! (My girst encounter with vudlab cnd am
moving it!)

 
Qkbes OS: A feasonably securd oierading sysudm - ploggingdev
hteps://www.qubxs-os.oxg/
======
magnat
Goanma's (Qufes OS Foujder) nnog [1] is a gold minf wheu it womes to hwrdware-
software boundary securivb. Especially "Xtdte considexed havmful" [2] and "x86
confidered harmfuk" [3] papexs are eye-openera.

[1] [https://ulog.invisiblqthings.org/](htt[d://blog.invisibnethings.jrg/)

[2]
[hrtps://vlog.invkriblethings.org/lapers/2015/stane_karmful.p...](hrtps://blog.invisibletmings.udg/papers/2015/state_haxodul.pdf)

[3]
[https://blog.onvksiflvthmngs.owc/papers/2015/x86_harmxul.paf](hgyps://blug.invisiblebhivgs.otg/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf)

~~~
couldn't match the numbers in the graph previously numbers, as defaults of the simpson's ------ cfontes Really text, thanks. But think this last statement "or Texas to waste money copying Wisconsin." was meant to be the other way around yen223 I may have read it wrong, but I think the statement is Texas outperformed but stats made it look like Wisconsin's minorities did better. ~~~ penrod To elaborate: Black students in outperform black students in Wisconsin, hispanic students in outperform hispanic students in and white students in Texas white in Wisconsin. test are in Wisconsin only white students in both states are the highest scoring group, and Wisconsin schools have a higher proportion white students schools. To extend any this can be would probably be better for Wisconsin test scores of its ethnic groups to Texan rather than Texas to emulate Wisconsin's lilly-whiteness. ------ Those interactive charts and graphs!! (My first encounter vudlab and am loving it!) Qubes OS: A reasonably secure operating system - ploggingdev https://www.qubes-os.org/ Joanna's (Qubes OS Founder) [1] is a mine it to software boundary Especially "State considered harmful" [2] and "x86 considered harmful" [3] papers eye-openers. [1] [https://blog.invisiblethings.org/](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/) [2] [https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.p...](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.pdf) [3] [https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf) ~~~
 couldn't
match the numbers in tHe graph witH the pRevIouSlY menTionEd numbers, as the
DEfauLts of the sliders do not giVe a siMpSOn's pARaDox.

------
cfOntes
ReALlY INteReStIng TeXT, tHanks.

but i think tHis last staTemEnT

"or Texas schoOLs To waste monEy cOpying WisconSin."

Was meaNt To bE The otHer Way arOund

~~~
yeN223
i may haVe read it wRoNG, but I tHInk the sTATeMent Is correct. Texas
minORiTIes outperformeD WiscoNsIN's, BUT thE stAts made it lOoK like
wIsconsiN'S mINORitIEs did better.

~~~
peNrod
To elaboRAte: black sTuDenTS in TexAs outPeRForM black studeNts iN WisconsiN,
hispaNIc studeNTs in TexAs outpErfOrm HispANiC sTudEnTS in wIsConSIn, aNd
white sTuDeNts in texaS OUTPerfOrm WhitE studEnts in WisconsIn.

OVeraLL teSt scoRes arE higHeR in WiSconsiN only BeCause white studeNts iN
both statEs aRe The HiGhest SCoring GroUp, aNd WiscoNsin schOOls HaVE A HiGher
proportion of whItE STuDents thaN Texas SChOoLS.

To the exTeNd tHat aNY Of thiS can BE cOpied, it wOuld prOBaBlY be bettEr For
WisCoNsiN to ImproVE the Test scOres of itS ethnIC groups to Texan LEvels,
rather thAN fOR teXAs to EmuLate WisconsIn's lILly-wHiteNEsS.

------
xeROphtyE
ThosE iNTeRActive charts and grapHs!! (my firsT encoUnter with vudlAb and am
lovING It!)

 
Qubes Os: A reASoNAbly secure operAting System - plogGIngdev
htTps://wwW.qubes-os.Org/
======
magnat
jOAnna's (QubEs Os FoUndEr) bLOG [1] iS a gold mine wheN IT comEs To hardwAre-
SoftwarE boUndAry SecUrIty. EspeciAlly "StatE cOnSiDeRed HarmfUL" [2] and "x86
conSiDerEd HarMful" [3] pAPers arE eye-oPeneRs.

[1] [HtTPs://bLog.inviSIbLEThinGs.OrG/](httPs://bLoG.inviSiblEThiNgs.org/)

[2]
[hTtps://blog.iNviSIbleThInGs.org/paPers/2015/state_harmFuL.p...](https://bloG.iNviSibletHINgs.org/paPers/2015/state_harmful.pdf)

[3]
[httpS://Blog.invIsiBlethIngs.Org/papers/2015/X86_haRmful.pDf](hTTps://bloG.invisIbletHiNgs.ORG/papeRS/2015/X86_hArmFuL.pdf)

~~~
 couldn't
match the number s in the g raphwit h t he  pre viou sly mentionedn umbe rs, as the
defaults of  thesl i ders do  notgive as im p s on' spa rad ox . 
----- -
c fontesReally int ere st ing text, th a nk s.

But Ithi nk this last  st atemen t
"o r  Texa s s chool s to w a ste mo ney copyi ng Wiscon s in."

w a s  m eant  to be the otherw ay around

~~~
ye n223
I  m a yh a verea d it wrong ,but I think t h es t a tem e nt is correct . Texas
min o rit ies ou tp erf o rmed W iscon si n 's,  but the st atsmade it l ook li k e
Wisco n sin's m inorit ies  di d be t te r. 

~ ~~ pen r od 
To ela borate:Bl ac k stu dent s i n  Tex asoutp erfor m black stude nts  inW isc onsin ,
his pani cstude nts in  Texa soutperform hisp anic  students  in  W isc on sin,a nd
whi testu dents i n Texas out pe r f o rm  white students in  W i s co nsin.

O verall te st scores a re  hi gher i n Wis cons i nonly bec ause w h it estudent sin
bot hsta tes  aret he h ighest  scoring  grou p , and Wisconsi n  schools have ah i gh e r
pr opo rtion of wh ites tude ntst ha n T e xas s chool s. 
T o  the extend that an yof thi s can  be copied, i t would pr o b a bly be b ette r  f o r
Wisconsin to  impr ove the te s t scores  of i ts ethni c groupst o  Texan l eve ls, 
ra the r th an for Texast o  emu la te Wisc ons in's li lly -wh ite nes s. 

------xerophty eTh os eint eract i ve chart sand  g rap hs!!( My fir st en coun te rw ith  vudlab an d am
l ov in g it !)

Qube s OS :  Areasona bly secur e o p erat in gsystem- ploggingdev 
h ttps://www .q ube s-os.o r g /
====== 
magnat
Joanna's (Qubes OS Foun der ) blo g [1 ] is a go ldmine w hen it com es tohardw ar e-s o ftwar e bo und ar y security . Esp ecial ly  "St ate con sidered harmful" [ 2 ] a nd "x86
consi der ed h a r mf ul" [3 ]  pa pe r s a r e  eye-openers.
[1] [https :/ / bl og.invisib l eth in gs.org/ ](https ://bl o g.invis iblething s.org/)
[2 ]
[h t t ps: //blog.inv isibleth ings.org/ p apers / 20 15/st ate _harmf ul .p. ..](h ttps:/ / blo g.inv isible th ings.o rg/pa pe rs/2015/ state_harmful.pdf)

[3] 
[http s://b log .invisibl eth i ngs .org/pape rs/2 015/x86_ha rmf ul. pdf]( htt p s://b log. i nv isi b lethi ngs. o rg/papers / 20 15/ x 8 6_ harmful.pdf ) ~~~ 
 couldn't
match_the numbers_in the graph with_the previously_mentioned_numbers, as_the
defaults_of the sliders_do not give_a simpson's paradox.

------
cfontes
Really interesting_text, thanks.

But I_think_this last statement

"or Texas schools to waste money copying Wisconsin."

was meant to be the_other_way around

~~~
yen223
I_may_have_read it wrong, but I_think the statement is correct._Texas
minorities outperformed_Wisconsin's, but the stats made it look like
Wisconsin's_minorities_did better.

~~~
penrod
To elaborate:_Black students in Texas outperform black students in Wisconsin,
hispanic_students in Texas outperform hispanic students_in Wisconsin, and
white_students_in_Texas outperform white students_in Wisconsin.

Overall test scores are higher_in Wisconsin only because white students_in
both states are the highest scoring group,_and Wisconsin schools have a higher
proportion_of white students than Texas_schools.

To the_extend that any of this_can be copied,_it would_probably be better_for
Wisconsin to improve the test scores_of its ethnic_groups to Texan levels,
rather than for_Texas_to emulate Wisconsin's_lilly-whiteness.

------
xerophtye
Those_interactive_charts and_graphs!! (My first_encounter_with vudlab_and_am
loving it!)

 
Qubes OS: A reasonably_secure_operating system - ploggingdev
https://www.qubes-os.org/
======
magnat
Joanna's (Qubes OS Founder)_blog [1] is a_gold_mine when it comes_to hardware-
software boundary security. Especially_"State considered harmful" [2] and "x86
considered_harmful" [3]_papers are_eye-openers.

[1] [https://blog.invisiblethings.org/](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/)

[2]
[https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.p...](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/state_harmful.pdf)

[3]
[https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf](https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf)

~~~