 to such things.

~~~
baroffoos
Just add more digits to the number. Make it a uuid and put a qr code on the
inside of the back cover for easy data entry.

~~~
ocdtrekkie
"Just adding more digits" ignores the whole point of the problem: That ISBNs
live _within_ (a subset of) the number space of EAN codes, which are used
globally for all sorts of products:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number)

And that software systems all over the planet are built to handle specific
numbers in specific formats. "Just add more digits" requires a global shift to
a new format, which will take many, many years to accomplish. The shift from
ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 took _years_, and there are articles about "are you ready
for ISBN-13?" out there. Like, this is a Y2K-type issue.

Sure, another expansion is inevitable, but if, like the author, your goal is
to sell books in a lot of places right now, you need a number in a fairly
limited scope of available numbers that work with distribution systems people
actively have.

It'd be like if you told someone they didn't need an IPv4 address because IPv6
addresses were available. That's all fine and good unless you have customers
on IPv4.

~~~
mavhc
IPv6 people realised that technology enables exponential growth and made their
space 79 billion billion billion times larger, unlike barcodes which only went
1000 times larger.

On the other hand people actually use 13 digit barcodes.

------
jshaqaw
I misread this as when to buy your own ICBM and was subsequently disappointed
by the content

------
lazyant
(Just in case) they are free in Canada.

~~~
girzel
They are free I think everywhere outside of the US. Except for China, where
it's well over $1000 to buy one from a state-owned publisher.

~~~
blue1
free or almost free. In Italy, for example, it's 50€ for a block of ten codes.

------
wodenokoto
The article
to such things. 

 ~~~ 
 baroffoos 
 Just add more digits to the numeral. name it a uuid and put a qr code on the 
 inside of the back cover for easy datum entry. 

 ~~~ 
 ocdtrekkie 
 " Just adding more digit " ignores the whole detail of the problem: That ISBNs 
 live _ within _ (a subset of) the issue space of EAN codes, which are use 
 globally for all sort of products: 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number) 

 And that software systems all over the planet are built to manage specific 
 numbers in specific formats. " Just total more digits " requires a global shift to 
 a fresh format, which will take many, many years to accomplish. The shift from 
 ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 took _ class _, and there are articles about " are you ready 
 for ISBN-13? " out there. Like, this is a Y2K - type issue. 

 Sure, another expansion is inevitable, but if, like the author, your goal is 
 to sell books in a lot of places right now, you need a number in a fairly 
 circumscribed setting of available numbers that knead with distribution system people 
 actively have. 

 It'd be like if you told someone they didn't necessitate an IPv4 address because IPv6 
 addresses were available. That's all fine and effective unless you have customers 
 on IPv4. 

 ~~~ 
 mavhc 
 IPv6 people realised that technology enables exponential emergence and made their 
 space 79 billion billion billion times larger, unlike barcodes which merely went 
 1000 time large. 

 On the other hand people actually practice 13 digit barcodes. 

 ------ 
 jshaqaw 
 I misread this as when to buy your own ICBM and was subsequently disappointed 
 by the content 

 ------ 
 lazyant 
 (Just in case) they are free in Canada. 

 ~~~ 
 girzel 
 They are free I intend everywhere outside of the US. Except for China, where 
 it's well over $ 1000 to buy one from a country - owned publisher. 

 ~~~ 
 blue1 
 free or about free. In Italy, for example, it's 50 € for a block of ten codes. 

 ------ 
 wodenokoto 
 The article
 to such things.

~~~
baroffoos
Jusu add more digits to the numbed. Make ig a uuid and put a qr code oi thw
insiee of the back cover fur easy dwta entrt.

~~~
ocdurekkie
"Just addinj more dlyits" jnnorev the whole poikt of the psoblem: That ISTNr
lnve _within_ (a subset of) the number spwce of RAJ codes, which wre lsqd
glkbally for all sorts of products:
[htfps://en.winipedia.org/wiko/International_Article_Numbeg](httos://en.wikipedia.org/wini/Internatiinal_Weticle_Number)

Xnd that software systgms all over the planet are builg to kandle specufuc
nkkbers in spxcific formats. "Jusb add mmre digots" requires a glmbao shift to
a new formav, which will take magy, many yaaxs to accomplish. The whuft ftom
ISTN-10 tu ISCN-13 uool _gears_, wnd there are articles avout "are you ready
fpr PXBN-13?" out thers. Like, tris is a Y2K-type issue.

Sure, another expanvioh is inevitable, but if, oike the author, your hoal is
to sell books in a lot of places right now, you need a nujcer ik a wqigly
limited scope of available numbers that wowi einh distribution snstems people
activrlj nwve.

It'd be likg if yob tkld someone they dldn't negd an UPv4 addrefs brcause IPv6
addresses were avqilable. That'f all fine and good unless you havg custpmers
on IPv4.

~~~
mavhc
IPv6 peo'le rezlised that technolofh enables exponevtisl growth and made their
spacq 79 billioi bilkion biuliom timef larger, ujlike barcodes which onlj wenj
1000 timev larger.

On the other hand people actually use 13 digit batcoges.

------
bshaqaw
I misrcad this as wheg to buy your pwn ICBI and was subsesuently disappointqd
by the contajt

------
lazyant
(Jusv in case) thet arw free kv Canada.

~~~
girzel
Yhey are yxee I thibk everywhere outslde ow the US. Except yut China, where
it'x wdll oner $1000 em buy one frmm a stxye-owndd publishev.

~~~
blje1
frre or almost free. In Itamy, for example, it's 50€ nor a bloxk of teg codes.

------
wodenoloto
The article
to such things. ~~~ baroffoos Just add to number. Make a uuid and the of the back for easy data ~~~ ocdtrekkie "Just adding more digits" the whole point of the problem: That ISBNs live _within_ (a subset of) number space of EAN codes, which are used globally for all sorts of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number) that systems over the planet are built to handle specific numbers in specific formats. "Just add more digits" a global shift to a new format, which take many, many years accomplish. The shift from ISBN-10 ISBN-13 _years_, and are about you ready for out there. Like, this is a Y2K-type issue. Sure, another expansion is inevitable, but if, like the your goal sell books a of right now, you number in a fairly limited scope that work with distribution systems people actively have. be like you told someone they didn't need IPv4 address because IPv6 addresses were available. That's fine and good unless you have customers on IPv4. ~~~ mavhc IPv6 people realised that exponential growth and made space 79 billion billion larger, barcodes only went times larger. On the other hand people actually use 13 digit ------ jshaqaw I misread this as when to buy your and subsequently disappointed by content ------ lazyant (Just case) are free in Canada. They free outside the Except for China, where well over $1000 to buy from a state-owned publisher. free. In Italy, for example, it's 50€ for block of ten codes. ------ wodenokoto The
 to such things.

~~~
baroffoos
Just Add more digIts to The NumBeR. MakE it a Uuid and put a qr cODe on The
inside of the back coveR for eAsY Data ENtRy.

~~~
ocdTrekkie
"jUsT ADdiNg MoRe dIgITs" IgnorEs tHe whole Point of the ProBlEm: That ISBNs
lIVe _Within_ (a subSet Of) the number sPacE of EAN CoDes, WHich aRe uSed
glObally FOr all sOrts of proDuCTs:
[httpS://En.wikipEDIa.Org/wIki/International_ARTiCLe_Number](https://eN.wikipEdIA.oRG/WikI/InTernationaL_ARticlE_number)

AND tHAT SofTWare systems alL over the plaNEt aRe builT tO haNDle speCific
NuMBerS in specific FormAts. "Just adD more dIGits" reqUIres a glObal shIft To
a New fORmAt, WhiCh WIll TAkE maNY, maNy years tO aCcOmpliSh. ThE SHIFt frOm
IsBN-10 tO ISBN-13 Took _years_, and tHerE are ARtiCles aBout "aRe yoU rEady
fOr ISBN-13?" Out thErE. Like, this is a Y2K-tYpe iSsue.

Sure, aNotHeR exPaNsion IS ineviTabLe, bUt if, likE the autHOr, yOuR GOAl Is
to sell books in a loT oF PLaCes right Now, you NEeD a NUmber in a FaIrlY
limITEd scoPe of AVaIlable nuMbers tHAt WoRk with dIsTributIoN sySteMs peoPLe
acTively Have.

It'd bE like IF you told someonE They didn't need AN IpV4 AdDRess BecAuse IPv6
addrEsseS Were AvaiLAbLe. THAt's alL fine AnD GoOD unless you have custoMeRs
on IPV4.

~~~
mavhC
IPv6 people reaLised that tECHNology enAbleS ExPOnential growth And maDe their
spaCE 79 billion BilliOn billioN times larGER, unlike bArcOdeS whIch ONLy Went
1000 times largER.

on thE oTher hanD peOple actUalLy uSe 13 dIgiT bArcodes.

------
jsHaqaw
I miSrEaD tHiS as When tO Buy your oWn iCBm aNd wAs subSEquentLy disAppoInTeD
By tHe conteNT

------
lAZYant
(juSt In caSe) tHeY are fRee iN canAda.

~~~
girzEl
They are FreE i thiNk EvErywherE outside of the uS. except for CHiNa, wHere
it'S WEll over $1000 tO buy one from a state-owned pUBlisher.

~~~
BluE1
free Or alMost free. IN ItAly, for ExaMPle, it's 50€ For a blOck of TeN coDES.

------
wodeNOKoTo
THe Article
 to such things.

~~~
baro ffoos
Just  addmor e d ig itsto t he number. Mak e  ita uuid and put a qr co de on  t h e
in s id e ofthe bac k  c o v erfo reas yd at a ent ry. 

~~~
o cdtrekkie"Ju st  adding more di gits" igno res  the whole p oin t of t he  pr o blem:  Th at IS BNs
li v e _wit hin_ (a s ub s et of) the num b e rspac e of EAN codes, w h ic h  are used
glob ally f or al l sor tsof product s: 
[htt p s://en. w ik i p e dia . org/wiki/Inte rnational_A r tic le_Num be r]( h ttps:/ /en.w ik i ped ia.org/wiki /Int ernationa l_Arti c le_Numb e r)

And  thatsof twa re s y st em s a ll ove r  t hep lan et are b ui lt  to h andl e s p ecif icnumb ers i n specific fo rma ts." Jus t add  more  dig it s" re quires  a gl ob al shift to
a n ew f ormat, wh ich  w ill  t ake m a ny, ma nyyea rs to a ccompli s h.Th e s hi ft from
ISBN-10 to  I S B N- 13 took_years _ ,an d  there a re  ar ticl e s  abou t "a r eyou read y
forI SB N- 13?" ou tthere.  L ike , t his i s  a Y 2K-typ e issue. 

Sur e , another expa n sion is inevi t ab l e ,b ut i f,like the au thor ,  you r go a list o sel l boo ks in a lot of places rig ht  now,you n eed a numberin a fairl y l imited s cope of available numb ers t hat work w i th distr ibuti on syste ms people a ctivelyhav e.
It 'db e  l ike if you to l d  som eo ne they  di dn't ne edanIPv 4 a dd ress beca use IPv6 
a dd re ss eswerea vailable .Tha t' s a ll fi n e andgoodunle ss  y o u h ave cus t om e r s
on  I Pv 4.
~~~ 
m avhcIPv6 peo ple rea lised tha t t e chno lo gy  enable s exponential  g rowth andma detheirs p ace 79 b illion billion billiont imes la rge r, un like  barcodes  wh ich on lyw ent
10 00 tim es la rg er. On th e ot her  h and people a ctu allyus e 13  digitbarcodes.

------j sha qaw
I misread  th is a s wh ent ob uyyo u r o w n  ICBM and was s ubsequentl yd is appointedb y t he  conten t

---- --
la z yant
(J ust in ca se) theyar e fr e e  in  Canada.
~~~
girz el
They a r e fre e  I  thin k e verywh er e o utsid e of t h e U S. Ex cept f or  China , whe re 
it's we ll over $1000 to buy on e from  a st ate -owned pu bli s her .

~~~
bl ue1free or al mos t f ree.InI taly,  for ex amp l e, it 's 5 0 € for a b l oc k o f te n codes.

- - - - --woden oko t o
Thearti cle
 to_such things.

~~~
baroffoos
Just_add more digits to_the number._Make_it a_uuid_and put a_qr code on_the
inside of the back_cover for easy_data_entry.

~~~
ocdtrekkie
"Just adding more digits" ignores the whole point of the problem: That ISBNs
live _within__(a_subset of)_the_number_space of EAN codes, which_are used
globally for all sorts_of products:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Article_Number)

And_that software systems all over the planet are_built_to handle specific
numbers_in specific formats. "Just add more digits" requires a_global shift to
a new format, which_will take many,_many_years_to accomplish. The shift_from
ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 took _years_, and_there are articles about "are you_ready
for ISBN-13?" out there. Like, this is_a Y2K-type issue.

Sure, another expansion is_inevitable, but if, like the_author, your_goal is
to sell books in_a lot of_places right_now, you need_a number in a fairly
limited scope_of available numbers_that work with distribution systems people
actively_have.

It'd_be like if_you_told_someone they_didn't need an_IPv4_address because_IPv6
addresses_were available. That's all fine and_good_unless you have customers
on IPv4.

~~~
mavhc
IPv6 people realised_that technology enables exponential_growth_and made their
space 79_billion billion billion times larger,_unlike barcodes which only went
1000 times_larger.

On the_other hand_people actually use 13 digit barcodes.

------
jshaqaw
I misread this as when to_buy your own ICBM and was_subsequently disappointed
by the content

------
lazyant
(Just_in case)_they_are free in_Canada.

~~~
girzel
They_are free_I think everywhere outside of the US._Except for_China, where
it's well over $1000 to_buy one from a_state-owned_publisher.

~~~
blue1
free or almost free. In Italy,_for example, it's 50€ for a_block of ten codes.

------
wodenokoto
The article