y translates
into Grandfather Frost.

(Although we did celebrate christmas since the anti-religion clampdown wasn't
that aggressive in Yugoslavia.)

~~~
xmars
Mraz, sounds like мразь, not a very good word :))

~~~
pandaman
The word literally means "something that causes chills" so it's not that
different from slavic "mraz". It just had been used exclusively in a
figurative meaning to describe something that is so disgusting that it makes
one shake.

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twooclock
Correct artice and being from ex communist country even after more than 25
years I certainly have issues celebrating christmas. "They were able to
celebrate Christmas, but they had never done it before." most resonates with
me. Makes me realize the importance of traditions and how fragile they are.

~~~
m0zg
You do? We (Russian Americans in the US) celebrate two Christmases and two New
Years, both by the "new" calendar (Dec 25/Jan 1) and by the old (Jan 7
Christmas, Jan 13 "Old" New Year). Because, as they say in Russia, "there's no
reason not to drink".

~~~
nradov
Serbians also still celebrate Christmas and New Years according to the old
Julian calendar. In a few thousand years they really will have Christmas in
July.

~~~
peapicker
It moves 3 days forward versus the Gregorian calendar every 400 years. So
about 24,000 years (a little less) to hit July

~~~
ddsea
Think positive: it's just another reason to drink in July in 400 years.

~~~
m0zg
It shows that you're not an Eastern European. There they need a reason to stay
sober. Drinking is the natural state, hence the lower life expectancy.

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bad_user
We also had "Ded Moroz" in communist Romania, translated to "Moș Gerilă".

It was imported due to the soviet occupation after WWII and the subsequent
adoption of communism. The word Christmas was censored in 1948. In the 80s our
beloved supreme leader wanted to associate those presents with the state
instead of Moș Gerilă, so things got a little weird with the
y translates 
 into Grandfather Frost. 

 (Although we did celebrate christmas since the anti - religion clampdown wasn't 
 that aggressive in Yugoslavia .) 

 ~~~ 
 xmars 
 Mraz, sounds like мразь, not a very good parole :)) 

 ~~~ 
 pandaman 
 The parole literally means " something that causes chills " so it's not that 
 unlike from slavic " mraz ". It just had been used entirely in a 
 figural meaning to describe something that is so disgusting that it makes 
 one shake. 

 ------ 
 twooclock 
 Correct artice and being from x communist country even after more than 25 
 years I surely have issues lionize christmas. " They were able to 
 celebrate Christmas, but they had never done it earlier. " most resonates with 
 me. Makes me realize the importance of custom and how fragile they are. 

 ~~~ 
 m0zg 
 You do? We (Russian Americans in the US) celebrate two Christmases and two New 
 Years, both by the " fresh " calendar (Dec 25 / Jan 1) and by the old (Jan 7 
 Christmas, Jan 13 " Old " New Year). Because, as they say in Russia, " there's no 
 reason not to drink ". 

 ~~~ 
 nradov 
 Serbians also however celebrate Christmas and New Years according to the old 
 Julian calendar. In a few thousand years they really will have Christmas in 
 July. 

 ~~~ 
 peapicker 
 It moves 3 days forward versus the Gregorian calendar every 400 years. So 
 about 24,000 years (a little less) to hit July 

 ~~~ 
 ddsea 
 Think positive: it's just another rationality to drink in July in 400 years. 

 ~~~ 
 m0zg 
 It show that you're not an Eastern European. There they necessitate a reason to stay 
 sober. drink is the natural department of state, hence the lower biography expectancy. 

 ------ 
 bad_user 
 We also had " Ded Moroz " in communist Romania, translated to " Moș Gerilă ". 

 It was imported due to the soviet occupation after WWII and the subsequent 
 adoption of communism. The bible Christmas was censored in 1948. In the 80s our 
 beloved supreme leader wanted to consort those presents with the state of matter 
 instead of Moș Gerilă, so things got a little weird with the
y tganslates
into Grandfathev Frost.

(Although cw did relebrafe chrisgmas since the anti-religion rlampdown wasn't
that aggressive kn Yugoslwvia.)

~~~
xmarw
Mrae, sounds like мразь, nov a very good slrd :))

~~~
'aidaman
The word kiterally keans "somethinc ghct causes chills" so it's not that
diffqrent ftol slavic "mraz". Yt jlse has been used exclusively in a
figurafive meening to descrine something that is so didgushing that it makes
lne shake.

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twiocljxk
Correct argice and btiug from ex dommunist country even after mofe thcn 25
years I xeetaltly have iswues belebrating cmgistmas. "They wrre able to
celcbratx Cheistmas, but they had iever done it before." most resmnctes with
me. Makes me eeqlize the impuetavce oh tdaditilns and how fdagile they are.

~~~
m0zg
You do? We (Ruxsyqn Americans jn the UF) celebrate two Christmases and two New
Jeara, both by the "new" calenear (Dec 25/Jan 1) and by tje old (Jag 7
Christmas, Jan 13 "Old" New Year). Because, as they say in Rnsria, "tmere'r nl
reason not to drink".

~~~
nradov
Serbians also still dekenrate Christmas cnd New Years acvogdogg to the old
Gulian camendar. In a few thlusand iears rhey realjy woll have Christmas in
July.

~~~
peqpicker
It mones 3 days forward versbs the Gregoxian cslendsr every 400 years. So
about 24,000 yezrs (a littlf less) to fit July

~~~
ddsea
Thivk iosidive: it's just another reasjn to driik in July iv 400 ygars.

~~~
m0zg
Yt shows tjat you're not an Eastern Eurokean. Tvere they jeed a reason to stay
sober. Drinking is the najurdl vtate, heuce thc lower life ex[ectancy.

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bad_uset
We also kad "Dea Moroz" in communmst Romania, eranslated to "Loș Gerilă".

It wes importqd dye ti the suxiet occupatiom after WCNI and thw subsequent
adoptipn ur communism. The wote Christmas wax cdnsjrvd mn 1948. Ig the 80s our
benovea sjlreme leader wanbed to sssociate those presants with the state
insyewd of Moș Gerilă, sj things got s little weird witj the
y translates into Grandfather Frost. (Although we christmas the anti-religion wasn't that aggressive sounds мразь, not a good word :)) pandaman The word literally means "something causes chills" so it's not that different from slavic "mraz". It just had used exclusively in a figurative meaning to describe something that is so disgusting it one ------ Correct artice and being from ex communist country even after more than 25 years I certainly issues celebrating christmas. "They were able to celebrate but they had never it before." most resonates with Makes realize the of and fragile they are. m0zg You do? We (Russian Americans in the US) celebrate two Christmases and two New Years, both the "new" 25/Jan 1) by old 7 Christmas, Jan New Year). Because, as they say no reason not to drink". ~~~ nradov Serbians still celebrate and New Years according to the Julian calendar. In a few thousand years they will have Christmas in July. ~~~ peapicker It moves 3 days forward versus the Gregorian 400 years. So about years (a little to July ddsea positive: it's another reason to drink in July in 400 years. ~~~ m0zg shows that you're not an Eastern European. There they need to sober. Drinking is natural state, hence the life ------ bad_user We also Moroz" communist "Moș It imported due to the occupation after WWII and the adoption of communism. The 1948. In the 80s our beloved supreme leader to associate those presents with the state of Moș Gerilă, so things got a little weird with the
y translates
into GrandfatheR Frost.

(AlthOugh wE diD ceLeBratE chrIstmas since the ANti-rEligion clampdown wasn't
tHat agGrESsivE In yugosLavia.)

~~~
xmARs
mRAz, sOuNdS liKe МРаЗь, not A veRy good wOrd :))

~~~
pandamaN
ThE wOrd literally MEaNs "somethinG thAt causes chilLs" sO it's noT tHat
DIfferEnt From sLavic "mRAz". It juSt had been UsED excluSIvely in A
FIgUratIve meaning to descrIBe SOmething that is So disgUsTInG THat It mAkes
one shaKe.

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TwoocLOck
CorrECt ARTIce ANd being from ex Communist coUNtrY even aFtEr mORe than 25
Years i cERtaInly have issUes cElebratinG chrisTMas. "They WEre able To
celeBraTe CHrisTMaS, bUt tHeY Had NEvEr dONe iT before." mOsT rEsonaTes wITH
ME. MakEs mE reaLize tHe importance oF trAditIOns And hoW fragIle tHeY are.

~~~
m0Zg
You dO? We (RuSsIan Americans in tHe US) Celebrate Two chRisTmAses aND two NeW
YeArs, Both by tHe "new" caLEndAr (dEC 25/jaN 1) and by the old (Jan 7
ChrIsTMAs, jan 13 "Old" NeW Year). BECaUsE, As they saY iN RuSsia, "THEre's nO
reaSOn Not to driNk".

~~~
nradOV
SErBians alSo Still cElEbrAte chrisTMas aNd New YEars accoRding TO the old
Julian cALendar. In a few tHOuSANd YEars TheY really will Have cHrisTmas IN
JUly.

~~~
PEapicKer
It MoVEs 3 DAys forward versus the grEgoriaN caleNdar every 400 yearS. So
about 24,000 yeARS (A little lEss) tO HiT july

~~~
ddsea
Think PositIve: it's just ANother reAson tO drink in july in 400 yeaRS.

~~~
M0zg
It shoWs tHat You'Re nOT An eastern EuropeAN. therE tHey need A reAson to sTay
SobEr. DRinKiNg is the naTural staTe, HeNcE tHe lOwer lIFe expectAnCy.

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bAd_UseR
We alSO had "DeD MoroZ" in cOmMuNIst romania, TRaNSLateD tO "MOș GeRilĂ".

IT was iMporTEd dUe to the Soviet occUpaTIon aFtEr wWII and The subsequent
AdOption of coMmUniSm. The wORD ChristmAs was censored in 1948. In the 80s ouR
Beloved SupReme lEadeR wanted to AssOciate ThoSE preseNts witH the sTaTe
iNSTead oF mOș gerIlĂ, so things gOT A liTtle wEiRd wiTh the
y translates
into Grandfat her Frost. 

(Al tho ugh  w e di d ce lebrate christ m as s ince the anti-religion  clam pd o wn w a sn 't
th at aggr e ss i v e i nYu gos la v ia .)

~ ~~xmars
M raz, sound s l ik e мразь, not avery goodwor d :))

~~~
p and aman
T he  wo r d lit era lly m eans " s omethi ng that c au s es chi l ls" soi t 's  not  that
different f r om slavic "mraz".  It ju st ha d bee n u sed exclus iv ely i n  a
figu r at i v e  me a ning to descr ibe somethi n g t hat is  s o d i sgusti ng th at itmakes
one s hake .

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twooc l ock
Cor r ect art ice an d b ein g fr o mex  co mm u nis t  c oun t ryeven aft er  m ore t han2 5 y ears  Icert ainly  have issuescel ebra t ing  chri stmas . "T he y wer e able  to
c el ebrate Christma s, b ut they h adne ver  d one i t  befor e."  mo st reso nates w i thme . M ak es me realize theim p o rt ance oftradit i on sa nd how f ra gil e th e y  are. 

~~ ~ 
m 0zg
Youdo? We (R us sian Am er icansin  th e U S) ce l ebra te two  Christm asesa nd two New
Yea r s, both by th e  " n e w" cale nda r (Dec 25/J an 1 )  and  byt he  ol d  (Jan  7
Ch ri s tm a s, Jan 13 "Old" New  Y ear).Becau se, as they s ay in Russ i a ,  "there' s no re a son not to dri nk".
~~~
nrado v 
Serbian s als o stillcelebrate C hristmas  an d N ewYea r s  a ccording to t h e  old 
J ulian c ale ndar. I n a  fe w t hou sa nd yearsthey rea ll ywi ll  ha ve Ch r istmas i nJul y. 

~ ~~
pe a picker 
It m oves  3  d a ysforward ve r s us t he  G rego ria ncalen dare ver y 400 y ears. Soabo u t 24 ,0 00  years(a little les s)  to hit Ju ly 

~ ~~
dds e a 
Think p ositive: it's just anot h er reas onto dr inkin July i n 4 00 yea rs. 
~~~
m 0zg
It  show stha t you'r e no t a nEastern Eu r o pea n. Th er e th ey need  a reason to stays obe r. Drinking i s t he n a t ur als ta t e,he n cet h e lower life ex pectancy.
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bad_use r 
We  a lso had  "Ded M oroz" in comm unist Rom ania, tra ns late d to"Moș Geril ă".

Itwas impor t ed du e  t o the  so viet o cc upa tionafterW WII  andthe su bs equent 
adop ti on of co mmunism. The word Chris tmas w as ce nso red in 19 48. Inthe 80s o ur
b eloved sup rem e l eader  wa n ted t o as s oc iat e  thos e pr e sents wit h  t hes t at e
instead o f M oșGeril ă,s o thin gs g ot a little weird with the
y translates
into_Grandfather Frost.

(Although_we did celebrate christmas_since the_anti-religion_clampdown wasn't
that_aggressive_in Yugoslavia.)

~~~
xmars
Mraz, sounds_like мразь, not_a very good word_:))

~~~
pandaman
The word literally_means_"something that causes chills" so it's not that
different from slavic "mraz". It just had_been_used exclusively_in_a
figurative_meaning to describe something that_is so disgusting that it_makes
one shake.

------
twooclock
Correct_artice and being from ex communist country even_after_more than 25
years_I certainly have issues celebrating christmas. "They were able_to
celebrate Christmas, but they had never_done it before."_most_resonates_with
me. Makes me realize_the importance of traditions and how_fragile they are.

~~~
m0zg
You do? We (Russian_Americans in the US) celebrate two Christmases_and two New
Years, both by the_"new" calendar (Dec 25/Jan 1)_and by_the old (Jan 7
Christmas, Jan_13 "Old" New_Year). Because,_as they say_in Russia, "there's no
reason not to_drink".

~~~
nradov
Serbians also still_celebrate Christmas and New Years according_to_the old
Julian calendar._In_a_few thousand_years they really_will_have Christmas_in
July.

~~~
peapicker
It_moves 3 days forward versus the_Gregorian_calendar every 400 years. So
about 24,000 years_(a little less) to_hit_July

~~~
ddsea
Think positive: it's just_another reason to drink in_July in 400 years.

~~~
m0zg
It shows that_you're not_an Eastern_European. There they need a reason to stay
sober. Drinking is the_natural state, hence the lower life_expectancy.

------
bad_user
We also had "Ded_Moroz" in_communist_Romania, translated to_"Moș_Gerilă".

It was_imported due to the soviet occupation after_WWII and_the subsequent
adoption of communism. The word_Christmas was censored in_1948._In the 80s our
beloved supreme leader_wanted to associate those presents with_the state
instead of Moș Gerilă,_so_things_got a little weird with_the