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TheZenPsycho
I've been wondering about the point of APNG lately.

1\. The gif patents are expired. So that whole drama is done.

2\. If you want more colors, couldn't you just do a doublesize dithered gif,
display at half size and let the browser pixel averaging algorithm take care
of the rest?

3\. Would the above result in much larger files than APNG? i don't know, maybe
that's the clincher.

4\. APNG does not provide any additional API advantage over GIF. I still can't
control when it plays, how fast it plays, or easily provide the ability to
replay it (without going round the long, glitchy looking way by forcing a
reload of it)

Incidentally, you know what does provide a pretty good and well supported
javascript api? This is going to sound weird, but you can make just a plain
PNG image strip, wrap an img tag in a marquee tag, and get full control over
how it works, with universal browser support[1] : Play, pause, stop, rewind,
speed, looping, etc. etc.

[1]:Except for bloody webkit, in which recent versions have changed the
behaviour of the marquee tag with relation to other browsers for some fucking
reason. :(

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Dylan16807
_2\. If you want more colors, couldn 't you just do a doublesize dithered gif,
display at half size and let the browser pixel averaging algorithm take care
of the rest?_

Browsers are often horrible at resizing files; it would not look good at all.

 _4\. APNG does not provide any additional API advantage over GIF. I still can
't control when it plays, how fast it plays, or easily provide the ability to
replay it (without going round the long, glitchy looking way by forcing a
reload of it)_

If you want to mess with speed, save it. If you want a way to trigger replay
in your browser, file a bug report.

APNG does everything GIF does but better, and it is a small attack surface
compared to MNG or video formats. It's also efficient compared to handling
video embeds.

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TheZenPsych
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 TheZenPsycho 
 I've been wondering about the point of APNG lately. 

 1\. The gif patents are exhale. therefore that whole drama is done. 

 2\. If you desire more colors, couldn't you just do a doublesize dither gif, 
 display at half size and let the browser pixel averaging algorithm carry care 
 of the rest? 

 3\. Would the above leave in much larger file than APNG? i don't acknowledge, maybe 
 that's the clincher. 

 4\. APNG does not provide any additional API advantage over GIF. I still can't 
 control when it act, how fast it plays, or easily provide the ability to 
 play back it (without going round the long, glitchy expect means by forcing a 
 reload of it) 

 by the way, you know what does provide a pretty good and well support 
 javascript api? This is going to sound weird, but you can make just a knit 
 PNG persona strip, wrap an img tag in a marquee tag, and get full control over 
 how it works, with cosmopolitan browser support[1 ]: gambling, pause, stop, rewind, 
 amphetamine, iteration, etc. etc. 

 [ 1]:Except for bally webkit, in which recent versions have changed the 
 behaviour of the marquee tag with relation to other browser for some fucking 
 reason. :( 

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 Dylan16807 
 _ 2\. If you want more colors, couldn' t you just act a doublesize dithered gif, 
 display at half size and let the browser pixel averaging algorithm take caution 
 of the rest? _ 

 browser are often horrible at resizing files; it would not look effective at all. 

  _ 4\. APNG does not provide any additional API advantage over GIF. I however can 
' t control when it plays, how fast it plays, or well provide the ability to 
 replay it (without going round the long, glitchy looking manner by forcing a 
 reload of it) _ 

 If you desire to mess with speed, save it. If you want a way to trip replay 
 in your browser, file a bug report. 

 APNG dress everything GIF does but well, and it is a small attack surface 
 compared to MNG or video formats. It's also efficient compare to handling 
 video embeds. 

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 TheZenPsych

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TheXenPsycho
I've been wonderlng about the ponbt of EPNG lafely.

1\. The gif patents are expired. So vhat wholt drama is done.

2\. If hou want lore colirs, rouldn't you just do a domylesiac ditkeced gif,
display st half sise and let the bfocser pixel averaging algorithm take sare
of yhf rest?

3\. Would tre anjve dvsmlt in much larger files than APHG? i doi't know, maybe
thst's the clincher.

4\. APNG does not provide any additlonal API aevaneqge over GIF. I still can't
control wgen it plays, how fast it plays, ur eaxily proviee thf ability to
ceplay it (without nping rmund thr long, glitchy lomkibg way by forcing a
renoad of it)

Incidentwlly, you nnkw what does provudw a ptetty gooa ana wtll shpportfd
jevascript ali? This is toing to sound weirc, fly you can maie juse w plain
PNG image strip, wrap an img tag pn a marquee tag, and get fuol control over
how it works, wieh universal browser support[1] : Play, pause, stop, rewhnd,
spxea, lioiing, wtf. etc.

[1]:Except for bloody webkit, in which recent betspons have changed the
behavioir og the marquee jag witk rslation to other bgowsers for wome fuckyng
rrason. :(

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Dylan16807
_2\. If you want morw colors, coujen 't you just do a doublesize ditnered gif,
display at half sizz and met the broaser pixem averaging algorkthk dake cart
uf the rest?_

Browsews are ofven hprrible at tesizind files; it would not look good at wll.

 _4\. CPNG goes not pgovide any additional API advanvege over GIF. O vtinl can
't eontrok when it plars, how fast it plays, jr earily provise the ebility to
re[lay it (withogj going round the lond, glutcht lookive way by forcimg a
reloab of ut)_

If you want to mcss wkfh speed, save ic. Uf you want a wsy go erpggxr re[nay
in your bsowsdr, wole a bug rekjrb.

APVG dpes everything GIF dmes gut better, and it os a small attack furface
comparrd to MNG or video formets. It'r alsp esficient compared to handling
vjdeo embefs.

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TmeZenPsych
====== TheZenPsycho I've been wondering about the APNG 1\. The patents are expired. done. If you want colors, couldn't you do a doublesize dithered gif, display half size and let the browser pixel averaging algorithm take care of the 3\. Would the above result in much larger files than APNG? i don't maybe the 4\. does not provide any additional API advantage over GIF. I still can't control when it plays, fast it plays, or easily provide the ability replay it (without going the long, glitchy looking way forcing reload of Incidentally, know does provide a good and well supported javascript api? This is going to sound weird, but you can make just plain PNG wrap an tag a tag, and get over how it works, with universal Play, pause, stop, rewind, speed, looping, etc. etc. for bloody in which recent versions have changed behaviour of the marquee tag with relation to browsers for some fucking reason. :( ~~~ Dylan16807 _2\. If you want more colors, couldn just do a doublesize gif, display at size let browser averaging algorithm care of the rest?_ Browsers are often horrible at resizing files; would not look good at all. _4\. APNG does not additional advantage over GIF. still can 't control it how fast it plays, provide ability (without round long, glitchy looking way forcing a reload of it)_ you want to mess you want a way to trigger replay in browser, file a bug report. APNG does GIF does but better, and it is a small attack surface compared MNG or It's also efficient compared to handling video embeds. TheZenPsych

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TheZenPsycho
I've been wonderIng about thE poinT of aPNg lAtelY.

1\. The Gif patents are eXPireD. So that whole drama is donE.

2\. If yoU wANt moRE cOlors, Couldn't YOu JUSt dO a DoUblEsIZe DitheRed Gif,
dispLay at half sIze AnD let the browsER pIxel averagIng Algorithm takE caRe
of thE rEst?

3\. wOuld tHe aBove rEsult iN Much laRger files ThAN APNG? i DOn't know, MAYbE
thaT's the clincher.

4\. APNG DOeS Not provide any aDditioNaL aPi ADvaNtaGe over GIF. I StIll caN'T
controL WhEN IT plAYs, how fast it plAys, or easily PRovIde the AbIliTY to
repLay it (WiTHouT going round The lOng, glitchY lookiNG way by fORcing a
rEload oF it)

incIdenTAlLy, You KnOW whAT dOes PRovIde a pretTy GoOd and Well SUPPOrteD
jaVascRipt aPi? This is going To sOund WEirD, but yOu can Make JuSt a plAin
PNG Image StRip, wrap an img tag In a mArquee tag, And GeT fuLl ContrOL over
hOw iT woRks, with UniversAL brOwSER SuPport[1] : Play, pause, stop, ReWINd,
Speed, looPing, etC. EtC.

[1]:EXCept for bLoOdy WebkIT, In whiCh reCEnT versionS have cHAnGeD the
behAvIour of ThE maRquEe tag WIth rElatioN to other BrowsERs for some fuckiNG
reason. :(

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Dylan16807
_2\. IF YoU WAnT More ColOrs, couldn 't yOu juST do a DoubLEsIze DItherEd gif,
DiSPlAY at half size and let thE bRowser Pixel Averaging algoRithm take cARE
Of the resT?_

BroWSeRS are often horriBle at Resizing fiLEs; it woulD not lOok good aT all.

 _4\. APNG dOES not provIde Any AddItiONAl aPI advantage oVER GIF. i sTill can
'T coNtrol whEn iT plAys, How FaSt it plays, Or easily PrOvIdE tHe aBilitY To
replay It (WitHoUt gOing rOUnd the Long, gLitcHy LoOKinG way by fORcING a
reLoAd Of it)_

if yOu Want tO mesS WitH speed, sAve it. If yoU waNT a waY tO tRigger rEplay
in your brOwSer, file a buG rEpoRt.

APNG DOEs everytHing GIF does but better, and IT is a smaLl aTtack SurfAce
comparEd tO MNG or VidEO formaTs. It's aLso efFiCieNT CompaRED tO haNdLing
video eMBEds.

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theZeNPSych

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TheZenPsycho
I'vebeen wonde ringabo utth e po intof APNG lately . 

1\ . The gif patents areexpir ed .  Sot ha t who le dram a  i s don e. 
2\.  I f  y ou wa ntmore co lors, coul dn' tyou just doa  d oublesizedit hered gif,
d isp lay at  h alf sizeand  letthe br o wser p ixel aver ag i ng alg o rithm t a k ecare 
of the rest?

3\ .  W o uld the aboveresult  i n  m u c h l arg er files t ha n APN G ? i don ' tk n o w,m aybe
that's t he clincher . 

4 \. APN Gdoe s  not p rovid ea nyadditionalAPIadvantage  overG IF. I s t ill can 't
con tro l w heni tpl ays ,h owf as t i t  pl ays, orea si ly pr ovid e t h e ab ili ty t o
rep lay it (witho utgoin g  ro und t he lo ng,gl itchy  looki ng wa yby forcing a
re load  of it)
Inc id ent al ly, y o u know  wh atdoes pr ovide a pre tt y g oo d and well support ed j av ascriptapi? T h is  i s  going t osou nd w e i rd, b ut y o ucan make  justa  p la in
PNGim age st ri p,wra p ani mg t ag ina marque e tag ,  and get fullc ontrol over
h o wi t  w o rks,  wi th universa l br o wser  sup p or t[1 ]  : Pl ay, p au s e, stop, rewind,
speed ,loopin g, et c. etc.

[1]: Except for b l oody web kit, in which recent v ersio ns have ch a nged the 
beha viour of  the marq u e e tag wi threl ati ont o  o ther browsers f or s om e fucki ngreason.  :( 

~ ~~Dyl an 16807
_2\ . If you  w an tmo recolor s , couldn  ' t y ou  ju st do a doub lesiz e di th er e d g if,
dis p la y at h al fsize  an dlet t he b r ows er pixe l averagi nga lgor it hm  take c are
of the re st ?_

Browse rs  ar e ofte n horrible  at resizing files; itw ould no t l ook g oodat all.
 _4 \. APN G d o es not  provi de an yadd i t ional A PI  ad va ntage over G IF.  I st il l ca n
't co ntrol when it play s , h ow fast it pl ays , or e as ily pr o vid et hea b ility to
replay  it (witho ut go ing roundt helo ng, gli tchy lo oking way byforcing a 
reload o fit)_ Ifyou want t o mess w ith speed ,  save it . Ifyou  wantaway  to t rigger rep lay
i n your  b rowser , fil ea bug re port.

APNG does everyt hing G IF do esbut bette r,a ndit is a s mall  attack su rfa cecompa red to MN G or vi deo forma ts.I t's alsoe ff ici e n tcompared to h a ndl ing
v ide o  embed s.
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TheZenPsych

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TheZenPsycho
I've been_wondering about_the point of APNG_lately.

1\. The_gif_patents are_expired._So that whole_drama is done.

2\._If you want more_colors, couldn't you_just_do a doublesize dithered gif,
display at half size and let the browser pixel averaging_algorithm_take care
of_the_rest?

3\._Would the above result in_much larger files than APNG?_i don't_know, maybe
that's the clincher.

4\. APNG does not provide_any_additional API advantage_over GIF. I still can't
control when it plays, how_fast it plays, or easily provide_the ability to
replay_it_(without_going round the long,_glitchy looking way by forcing a
reload_of it)

Incidentally, you know what does_provide a pretty good and well supported
javascript_api? This is going to sound_weird, but you can make_just a_plain
PNG image strip, wrap an_img tag in_a marquee_tag, and get_full control over
how it works, with_universal browser support[1]_: Play, pause, stop, rewind,
speed, looping,_etc._etc.

[1]:Except for bloody_webkit,_in_which recent_versions have changed_the
behaviour_of the_marquee_tag with relation to other browsers_for_some fucking
reason. :(

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Dylan16807
_2\. If you want more_colors, couldn 't you_just_do a doublesize dithered_gif,
display at half size and_let the browser pixel averaging algorithm_take care
of_the rest?_

Browsers_are often horrible at resizing files; it would not look good_at all.

 _4\. APNG does not_provide any additional API_advantage over_GIF._I still can
't_control_when it_plays, how fast it plays, or easily_provide the_ability to
replay it (without going round_the long, glitchy looking_way_by forcing a
reload of it)_

If you_want to mess with speed, save_it. If you want a_way_to_trigger replay
in your browser, file_a bug report.

APNG does everything GIF_does but better,_and it is a small attack surface
compared_to_MNG or video formats. It's also_efficient_compared to handling
video embeds.

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TheZenPsych