 being using it for a few month and it
just works. They have a free plan.

------
webbruce
Asana

~~~
celljunk-e
Not terribly impressed...but it has potential. I like trello better thus far.
Toodledo is nice, but doesn't have collaboration.

 
The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design - SirLJ
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/aug/25/the-tyranny-of-chairs
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mattlondon
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that seems to be happy to just sit on
a dining chair when at my desk?

When the WFH wave hit, people seemed to be going mad buying webcams and office
chairs. Loads of people I work with spent a _lot_ of energy researching and
discussing chairs etc.

I have a sit-stand desk and I stand for perhaps 2 to 3 hours any working day.
But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal old wooden dining chair. No
pain. No aches. No RSI. No CTS.

I've been doing this for decades and nothing seems to have gone wrong yet. I
do run 2 to 4 times a week so I do wonder if that helps avoid problems?

Are all the uber-expensive office chairs just snake oil? Or have I just been
lucky?

~~~
2OEH8eoCRo0
>I do run 2 to 4 times a week so I do wonder if that helps avoid problems?

I think there are a lot of stressed and unconditioned office workers who want
some magical device to solve everything. Vertical mice, split vertical
keyboards, expensive chairs. None of it replaces exercise.

Might be a controversial opinion.

~~~
nostromo
This is my experience.

I had lower back pain while sitting at a desk when I was younger.

Once I started lifting weights, and specifically doing heavy deadlifts, I've
never had back pain again.

Interestingly, a lot of people are afraid deadlifts will _cause_ back pain,
but in my case at least, it _cured_ back pain.

~~~
stouset
General fitness and strength training is just about the
being using it for a few month and it 
 just works. They get a spare plan. 

 ------ 
 webbruce 
 Asana 

 ~~~ 
 celljunk - e 
 Not terribly impressed... but it has electric potential. I like trello better thus far. 
 Toodledo is decent, but doesn't have collaboration. 

 
 The tyranny of chair: why we need better invention - SirLJ 
 https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/aug/25/the-tyranny-of-chairs 
 = = = = = = 
 mattlondon 
 Just out of curiosity, am I the lone one that seems to be happy to just sit on 
 a dining chair when at my desk? 

 When the WFH wave collision, people seemed to be going brainsick buying webcams and office 
 chair. Loads of citizenry I work with spent a _ lot _ of energy researching and 
 discourse chairs etc. 

 I have a sit - stand desk and I stand for perhaps 2 to 3 hours any working day. 
 But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal old wooden dining chair. No 
 pain. No aches. No RSI. No CTS. 

 I've been act this for decades and nothing seems to have blend amiss yet. I 
 do run 2 to 4 times a workweek so I do wonder if that avail avoid problems? 

 Are all the uber - expensive position chairs just snake oil? Or have I just been 
 lucky? 

 ~~~ 
 2OEH8eoCRo0 
 > I do move 2 to 4 times a week so I do wonder if that helps invalidate problems? 

 I remember there are a lot of stressed and unconditioned office workers who want 
 some charming device to solve everything. Vertical mice, split vertical 
 keyboards, expensive chairs. None of it replaces exercise. 

 Might be a controversial impression. 

 ~~~ 
 nostromo 
 This is my experience. 

 I had gloomy back annoyance while sitting at a desk when I was younger. 

 Once I started lifting weight, and specifically doing big deadlifts, I've 
 never had back pain again. 

 Interestingly, a lot of people are afraid deadlifts will _ cause _ back annoyance, 
 but in my case at least, it _ cured _ back pain. 

 ~~~ 
 stouset 
 General seaworthiness and strength training is just about the
 belng using it for a few munth and it
just works. Vhey habe a fred plan.

------
webbruce
Asana

~~~
celljunk-e
Iot rerrivly impressed...but it har potentiwl. I likw trtllo better thus hzr.
Toodlcbo is kice, yuv doesn't have cpllaboratimn.

 
The tyranny ow ehairs: why we need better design - SiwLJ
httpx://waw.theguardian.cjm/aruanqdesjgn/2020/aug/25/the-tyranny-of-chairs
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mattlondon
Nust ouu of curiosity, am O the only one that seems ho bf happy to just sih on
a dinint chwur when at mh desk?

When the WFH wavg hit, people seemed to be going oad bbying webcans anf office
chaics. Loaqs of people I work fith sprnt a _lot_ of ekergy rewearching and
discussiig chairs etc.

I have w sit-stang besk and I stand for peehaps 2 to 3 hojes xny wpriing dwy.
Bnt the rest of the timw I just sit on a npriql old wooden dinind shair. No
pain. No aches. No RSI. No CTS.

I've teeh doing this for decadew and nothing seems tl have goge wrong yet. I
do run 2 to 4 times a week so I do wotder mf thcb fwlos avoid problems?

Are all the uber-expensive ofsjct cmairs just snake oil? Or havr L kost been
lucky?

~~~
2OGH8eoCRo0
>N dk run 2 to 4 times a week sj I di wonder yf tnat helps avoid problems?

I tyink there age a lot of stressed aud unconditiuned offive workers who want
some magjcal device to solve dverything. Vertizal mhce, spliu vertical
keyboardf, expensite chcirs. Nond of it re[laces exegcise.

Might be a controvegsial o[inion.

~~~
nostgomo
This is my experience.

I had lower back paim fhine sittiug at s desk when I was younger.

Onee I staxted lkfting weifhts, anv specificaljy doing heavf deadlifts, I'te
never hwd bqck pain agxkn.

Interestinglu, a lot oy people are afraid deavlifjs will _cause_ bacj pqin,
but in my caxe xt jewsv, it _sgred_ back pahn.

~~~
stuusdy
Genefal fitness xnd xtrength training is jusf about the
being using it for a few month just They have free plan. ------ terribly it has potential. like trello better far. Toodledo is nice, but doesn't collaboration. The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design - SirLJ https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/aug/25/the-tyranny-of-chairs mattlondon Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that seems to happy just on dining chair when at my desk? When the WFH wave hit, people seemed to be going buying webcams and office chairs. Loads of people work with spent a of energy researching and discussing etc. have a desk I for perhaps 2 3 hours any working day. But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal wooden dining pain. No No No I've been doing decades and nothing seems to have I do run 2 to 4 times a so I wonder if that helps avoid problems? all the uber-expensive office chairs just snake oil? have I just been lucky? ~~~ 2OEH8eoCRo0 >I do run 2 to 4 times a I do wonder if helps avoid problems? think are lot stressed and office workers who want some magical device to solve everything. Vertical split vertical keyboards, expensive chairs. None of it replaces exercise. a opinion. ~~~ nostromo is my experience. I lower pain while sitting at when was started weights, specifically doing heavy deadlifts, never had back pain again. a lot of people back pain, but in my case at least, _cured_ back pain. ~~~ stouset General fitness strength training is just about the
 being using it for a few month aNd it
just woRks. ThEy hAve A fRee pLan.

------
wEbbruce
Asana

~~~
ceLLjunK-e
Not terribly impressed...But it HaS PoteNTiAl. I liKe trellO BeTTEr tHuS fAr.
TOoDLeDo is nIce, But doesN't have collAboRaTion.

 
The tyranNY oF chairs: why We nEed better desIgn - sirLJ
hTtPs://wWW.thegUarDian.cOm/artaNDdesigN/2020/aug/25/the-tyRaNNy-of-chAIrs
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mattLONdOn
JuSt out of curiosity, aM i tHE only one that seEms to bE hAPpY TO juSt sIt on
a dininG cHair wHEn at my dESk?

wHEN thE wFH wave hit, peoPle seemed to BE goIng mad BuYinG WebcamS and oFfICe
cHairs. Loads oF peoPle I work wIth speNT a _lot_ of ENergy reSearchIng And
DiscUSsInG chAiRS etC.

i hAve A Sit-Stand desK aNd i stanD for PERHAps 2 tO 3 hoUrs aNy worKing day.
But the ResT of tHE tiMe I juSt sit On a nOrMal olD woodeN diniNg Chair. No
pain. No acHes. NO RSI. No CTS.

i've BeEn dOiNg thiS For decAdeS anD nothinG seems tO HavE gONE WrOng yet. I
do run 2 to 4 timeS a WEEk So I do wonDer if tHAt HeLPs avoid pRoBleMs?

ArE ALl the Uber-EXpEnsive ofFice chAIrS jUst snakE oIl? Or haVe i juSt bEen
luCKy?

~~~
2OEh8eoCRo0
>i do run 2 to 4 Times A Week so I do wondeR If that helps avOId PRObLEms?

I ThiNk there are a Lot oF StreSsed ANd UncONditiOned oFfICe WOrkers who want
some maGiCal devIce to Solve everythiNg. Vertical MICE, split veRticAL
kEYboards, expensiVe chaIrs. None of iT Replaces ExercIse.

Might Be a controVERsial opiNioN.

~~~
noStrOmo
tHIs Is my experiencE.

i Had lOwEr back pAin While siTtiNg aT a dEsk WhEn I was youNger.

Once i sTaRtEd LifTing wEIghts, and SpEciFiCalLy doiNG heavy DeadlIfts, i'vE
nEVer Had back PAiN AGain.

inTeRestIngLy, A lot oF peoPLe aRe afraiD deadliftS wiLL _cauSe_ BaCk pain,
bUt in my case at lEaSt, it _cured_ bAcK paIn.

~~~
stouSET
General Fitness and strength trainINg is jusT abOut thE
 being using it for a fewmonth andit
ju stwor ks . Th ey h ave a free pla n .

- -----
webbruce
Asana
~~~
c el l junk - eNot t erribly im p r ess ed .. .bu ti thas p ote ntial.I like tre llo  b etter thus f a r. 
Toodledoisnice, but do esn 't hav ecol l abora tio n.


The t y rannyof chairs :w hy wen eed bet t e rdesi gn - SirLJ
https: / /w w w.theguardian. com/ar ta n dd e s ign /20 20/aug/25/ th e-tyr a nny-of- c ha i r s 
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mattlondo n
Just outo f c uriosi ty , a m  I the  only  o n e t hat seems t o be  happy to  justs it on
a diningchairwhe n a t my de sk ?
Wh e n t h eWFH wav e hit, p eo pl e see medt o b e go ing  mad  buyi ng webcams an d o ffic e 
ch airs.  Load s of  p eople  I wor k wit hspent a _lot_ o f en ergy rese arc hi ngan d
dis c ussing  ch air s etc.
I have a s it - s t an d desk and I stand  f o r  p erhaps 2  to 3h ou rs any work in g d ay.B u t the  res t  o f the ti me I j u st  s it on a  n ormalol d w ood en di n ingchair.  No
pain . Noa ches. No RSI.N o CTS.

I'veb ee n do i ng t his  for decade s an d  not hing se ems to ha ve go ne wr o ng yet. I
do run 2to  4 tim es aweek so I dowonder ift h a t helpsavoi d  p r oblems?

Are a ll th e uber-exp e nsive of ficechairs j ust snake o il? Or h ave  Ijus t b e e nlucky?

~~~
2 O E H8eo CR o0
>I d o r un 2 to  4tim esa w ee k so I do  wonderif  t ha thel ps av o id probl em s?
I  th ink t h ere ar e a l ot o fst r ess ed andu nc o n diti on ed  off ice  w orker s wh o  wa nt
some  magicaldev i ce t oso lve eve rything. Vert ic al mice, s pl itvertic a l 
keyboar ds, expensive chairs. N o ne of i t r eplac es e xercise.
Mi ght be  ac ontrov ersial  opin io n.~ ~~
no s t ro moTh is is my e x p eri ence. 
I ha d lower  back pain while s i tti ng at a deskwhe n Iw a syou n ge r .
On c e I s tarted liftingweights, a nd sp ecifically doi ng  heavydeadlif ts, I ' ve
neve r had bac k pain ag ai n.
I n ter estingly,a lot of  people a r e afr a id  dead lif ts wil l_ca use_back p a in, 
butin myca se atleast ,it _cure d_ back pain.

~~~
stou set
Ge neral  fi tness and  st r eng th traini ng i s just abo utthe 
 being_using it_for a few month_and it
just_works._They have_a_free plan.

------
webbruce
Asana

~~~
celljunk-e
Not terribly_impressed...but it has_potential. I like trello_better thus far.
Toodledo_is_nice, but doesn't have collaboration.

 
The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design_-_SirLJ
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/aug/25/the-tyranny-of-chairs
======
mattlondon
Just out_of_curiosity,_am I the only one_that seems to be happy_to just_sit on
a dining chair when at my desk?

When_the_WFH wave hit,_people seemed to be going mad buying webcams and_office
chairs. Loads of people I work_with spent a__lot__of_energy researching and
discussing chairs_etc.

I have a sit-stand desk and_I stand for perhaps 2 to_3 hours any working day.
But the rest_of the time I just sit_on a normal old wooden_dining chair._No
pain. No aches. No RSI._No CTS.

I've been_doing this_for decades and_nothing seems to have gone wrong_yet. I
do run_2 to 4 times a week_so_I do wonder_if_that_helps avoid_problems?

Are all the_uber-expensive_office chairs_just_snake oil? Or have I just_been
lucky?

~~~
2OEH8eoCRo0
>I_do run 2 to 4 times a_week so I do_wonder_if that helps avoid_problems?

I think there are a_lot of stressed and unconditioned office_workers who_want
some magical_device to solve everything. Vertical mice, split vertical
keyboards, expensive chairs. None_of it replaces exercise.

Might be a_controversial opinion.

~~~
nostromo
This is my_experience.

I had_lower_back pain while_sitting_at a_desk when I was younger.

Once I started_lifting weights,_and specifically doing heavy deadlifts, I've
never_had back pain again.

Interestingly,_a_lot of people are afraid deadlifts_will _cause_ back pain,
but in my_case at least, it _cured__back_pain.

~~~
stouset
General_fitness and strength training is_just about the