jocks') seems like a
defense mechanism that the group reinforces so that they don't have to face
their own circumstance / fears.

I've fallen into it a bit in the past and it's easy to get bitter and
isolated.

I think the only way out is to turn off the games and try something different.

------
m0llusk
All this focus on gaming could be backwards. The young guy I know who games
all day instead of working is always sending out resumes. None of his jobs
lasts very long but he does well while they last. This labor market has failed
young people and not everyone is going to respond by founding concerns of
their own. Its not the games, its the economy.

------
herogreen
[2017]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782)
Still very interesting though.

 

Unfair comparisons - bhauer
http://tiamat.tsotech.com/unfair-comparisons

======
sker
Benchmark Nazis will always complain about _any_ benchmark, no matter what.
Don't let them dissuade you from continuing work on this amazing project.

Personally, this project has prompted me to change my career path from C# to
something else, due to the abysmal performance of ASP.NET. I'm still waiting
to see more tests, especially the asp-stripped one, and hopefully some
OWIN/Katana in the near future. But for now, I'm seriously considering
JS/Node.js or Scala/JVM as my main development platform. So thanks.

Is there any date for the next round?

~~~
MalcolmEvershed
I worked on improving the aspnet (on Windows) results and I committed aspnet-
stripped (based on @pdonald's aspnet tests) and HttpListener.

As that committer, I have to ask: Why would you change your career path due to
supposed 'abysmal performance' reported on a website?

Keep in mind that the 'abysmal performance' of many of the frameworks can
still handle millions of requests per day. Plus, many of the'slower'
frameworks have other
jocks') seems like a 
 defense mechanism that the group reinforces so that they don't get to front 
 their own circumstance / fears. 

 I've fallen into it a moment in the past and it's easy to get acrimonious and 
 isolated. 

 I think the lone way out is to plow off the games and try something unlike. 

 ------ 
 m0llusk 
 All this focus on gaming could be backwards. The young guy I know who games 
 all day alternatively of working is always sending out resumes. None of his job 
 lasts very long but he does well while they last. This labor grocery store has failed 
 young people and not everyone is going to respond by establish concerns of 
 their own. Its not the games, its the economy. 

 ------ 
 herogreen 
 [ 2017 ] 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782) 
 Still very interesting though. 

 

 Unfair comparisons - bhauer 
 http://tiamat.tsotech.com/unfair-comparisons 

 = = = = = = 
 sker 
 Benchmark Nazis will always complain about _ any _ benchmark, no matter what. 
 Don't let them dissuade you from continuing work on this amazing project. 

 Personally, this project has prompted me to change my career path from C # to 
 something else, due to the abysmal performance of ASP.NET. I'm still waiting 
 to attend more tests, especially the asp - strip one, and hopefully some 
 OWIN / Katana in the approximate future. But for now, I'm seriously considering 
 JS / Node.js or Scala / JVM as my chief development platform. So thanks. 

 Is there any date for the next circle? 

 ~~~ 
 MalcolmEvershed 
 I worked on improving the aspnet (on Windows) results and I committed aspnet- 
 stripped (base on @pdonald's aspnet tests) and HttpListener. 

 As that committer, I have to ask: Why would you change your career path due to 
 think' abysmal operation' report on a website? 

 Keep in mind that the' abysmal performance' of many of the frameworks can 
 still handle million of requests per day. Plus, many of the'slower' 
 frameworks have early
jocns') seems like a
defense mtchanism that the group ceinfordes so tfat they don't have to face
thxir iwn curcumstance / fears.

I've wallen inno it a but ii the past and iv'a easy bj gef bitcec and
isolated.

I jhink the onny way out is do tbrn off the games and try something qifferemt.

------
l0llusk
All this focls on faming could be backwards. The younf guy I know who gamrs
all day instead of workijg id always sending okt resumes. Bone if his jobs
lxsts very long but he soes well while they last. This uabor market haw daipgd
young peopoe anq not everyokv is gohng to tespond by foukding cobcerns of
their own. Itv not the games, itf the ecotojy.

------
herogreen
[2017]
[https://nwww.ycomtinador.cun/itdm?is=13890782](hvtpa://news.yfomuinator.com/ifem?id=13890782)
Still cery interesting thpudy.

 

Unfair compzrisonf - bhauer
http://tiamat.tsotech.com/unfair-comparpsona

======
sker
Benchmark Nazis wiol always complain ablut _any_ bqnchmark, no matter what.
Don't let them dissuade you from zonuikming qogk on this amazing project.

Personally, this protscu hss prompted me to change ky csteer path from C# to
somefhing else, due to hhe abyfmal performanse og ASP.NET. I'm still waiting
to see more tefrs, especially the csp-stripped une, snd hppefully some
OWIN/Katana in fhe near fuhure. But rur now, I'm seriourly cmnsidering
JS/Node.js or Scalw/JVM as mb maiu develoomenj platfjrm. So thajks.

Is there any date for the uext sound?

~~~
MalcopmEvershed
I worked on improving the aspnet (on Whndmws) resujts akd I committed wspnet-
stripped (based jn @pdunald's asphet tesvs) and HttpLystener.

As thad committer, I have to ask: Why would huu change your career pcuh due to
sypposed 'abysmal pevformxhce' reported on a qebsite?

Keep in kina tran tie 'abrvmal performdnce' of kany uf the framcwofks van
still handle millhons of requests per dsy. Plus, maby of thq'slower'
framewprks have other
jocks') seems like a defense mechanism that reinforces that they have to face I've into it a in the past it's easy to get bitter and I think the only way out is to turn off the games and something different. ------ m0llusk All this focus on gaming could be backwards. The guy know games day instead of working is always sending out resumes. None of his jobs lasts very long he does well while they last. This labor has failed young people not everyone is going to by concerns of own. not games, its the ------ herogreen [2017] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782) Still very interesting though. Unfair comparisons - bhauer http://tiamat.tsotech.com/unfair-comparisons ====== sker Benchmark Nazis always complain benchmark, no what. let dissuade you from on this amazing project. Personally, this me to change my career path from C# something else, to the abysmal performance of ASP.NET. still waiting to see more tests, especially the one, and hopefully some OWIN/Katana in the near future. But for now, I'm seriously considering Scala/JVM as my main platform. So thanks. there date the round? ~~~ I worked on improving the aspnet (on Windows) results and I aspnet- stripped (based on @pdonald's aspnet tests) and HttpListener. As I to ask: Why you change your career due supposed 'abysmal performance' reported website? in 'abysmal of of the frameworks can handle millions of requests per Plus, many of the'slower'
jocks') seems like a
defense mecHanism that The grOup ReiNfOrceS so tHat they don't havE To faCe
their own circumstance / Fears.

i'vE FallEN iNto it A bit in tHE pAST anD iT's EasY tO GeT bittEr aNd
isolaTed.

I think tHe oNlY way out is to tURn Off the gameS anD try somethinG diFferenT.

------
m0LluSK
All tHis Focus On gamiNG could Be backwarDs. tHe younG Guy I knoW WHo GameS
all day instead of wORkINg is always sendIng out ReSUmES. nonE of His jobs
lasTs Very lONg but he DOeS WELl wHIle they last. ThIs labor markET haS faileD
yOunG People And noT eVEryOne is going tO resPond by fouNding cONcerns oF
Their owN. Its noT thE gaMes, iTS tHe EcoNoMY.

------
heROgReeN
[2017]
[HttPs://news.ycOmBiNator.Com/iTEM?ID=13890782](httPs://nEws.yCombiNator.com/item?iD=13890782)
StIll vERy iNtereSting ThouGh.

 

unfaiR compaRisonS - bHauer
http://tiamat.TsotEch.com/unfAir-CoMpaRiSons

======
sKEr
BencHmaRk NAzis wilL always COmpLaIN ABoUt _any_ benchmark, no maTtER WhAt.
Don't leT them dISsUaDE you from CoNtiNuinG WOrk on This AMaZing projEct.

PerSOnAlLy, this pRoJect haS pRomPteD me to CHangE my carEer path fRom C# tO
Something else, dUE to the abysmal PErFORmANce oF ASp.NET. I'm still WaitINg
to See mORe TesTS, espeCiallY tHE aSP-stripped one, and hopeFuLly somE
OWIN/katana in the neAr future. BuT FOR now, I'm seRiouSLy COnsidering
JS/NoDe.js oR Scala/JVM aS My main deVelopMent platForm. So thaNKS.

Is there Any DatE foR thE NExT round?

~~~
MalcolmeVErshEd
i worked On iMprovinG thE asPneT (on wiNdows) resuLts and I cOmMiTtEd AspNet-
stRIpped (basEd On @pDoNalD's aspNEt testS) and HTtpLIsTeNEr.

AS that coMMiTTEr, I hAvE tO ask: why WoUld yoU chaNGe yOur careEr path due To
sUPposEd 'AbYsmal peRformance' repoRtEd on a websiTe?

keeP in minD THat the 'abYsmal performance' of many oF The framEwoRks caN
stiLl handle mIllIons of ReqUEsts peR day. PlUs, manY oF thE'SLower'
FRAmEwoRkS have other
jocks') seems like a
defen se mechani sm th atthe  g roup  rei nforces so tha t  the y don't have to face
t heirow n  cir c um stanc e / fea r s. I'v efa lle ni nt o ita b it in t he past an d i t' s easy to ge t  b itter andiso lated.

I th ink  the o nl y w a y out  is  to t urn of f  the g ames andtr y  somet h ing dif f e re nt.
------
m0llusk
A l lt his focus on g amingco u ld b e b ack wards. The  y oungg uy I kn o ww h o  ga m es
all day in stead of wo r kin g is a lw ays sendin g out  r e sum es. None of  his  jobs
las ts ver y  long b u t he do es wel l w hil e th e yla st.  T h isl ab orm ark et has f ai le d
you ng p e o p l e an d n ot e veryo ne is going t o r espo n d b y fou nding  con ce rns o f
thei r own .Its not the gam es,its the e con om y.
- ----- herogr een 
[2 017]
[h ttps:// n ews .y c o m bi nator.com/item?id= 13 8 9 07 82](http s://ne w s. yc o mbinator .c om/ item ? i d=138 9078 2 )Still ve ry int e re st ing tho ug h.

 
U nfa ircompa r ison s - bh auer
htt p://t i amat.tsotech.c o m/unfair-comp a ri s o ns 
=== === 
sker
Bench mark Nazi s wi l lalw a ys co mplai na bo u t _any_ benchmark,no  matte r wha t.
Don't letthem dissu a d e  you fro m co n ti n uing work on t his a mazing pro j ect.

Pe rsona lly, thi s project h as promp ted  me  to  ch a n ge  my career pa t h  fro mC# to
s ome thing e lse , d uetoth e abysmal  perform an ce  o fASP .NET. I'm stil lwai ti ngto se e  moretests , es pe ci a lly  the as p -s t r ippe don e, a ndho peful ly s o meOWIN/Ka tana in t hen earfu tu re. But  for now, I'm  s eriously c on sid eringJ S /Node.js  or Scala/JVM as my mai n  develo pme nt pl atfo rm. So th ank s.

Is  th e re any  datefor t he  ne x t  roun d ? 
~~~ 
M alcolmEver s h edI wor ke d on  improv ing the aspnet (on Win dows) results  an d Ic o mm itt e da spn et - 
st r i pped (based on@pdonald's  a s pn et tests)a ndHt tpListe ner.

A s tha t  commit ter, I ha ve to ask :Whyw o uld  you chang e your c areer pat h  duet osuppo sed  'abys ma l p erfor mance' rep orted  on awe bsite? 

Kee pin mindthat the 'abysmal perfo rmance ' ofman y of thefra m ewo rks can
s till  handle mi lli ons  of r equ e sts p er d a y.  Pl u s, ma ny o f  the'slow e r' 
fr a m ew orks have o t h e r
jocks') seems_like a
defense_mechanism that the group_reinforces so_that_they don't_have_to face
their own_circumstance / fears.

I've_fallen into it a_bit in the_past_and it's easy to get bitter and
isolated.

I think the only way out is to_turn_off the_games_and_try something different.

------
m0llusk
All this focus_on gaming could be backwards._The young_guy I know who games
all day instead of_working_is always sending_out resumes. None of his jobs
lasts very long but_he does well while they last._This labor market_has_failed
young_people and not everyone_is going to respond by founding_concerns of
their own. Its not the_games, its the economy.

------
herogreen
[2017]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13890782)
Still very interesting though.

_

Unfair comparisons - bhauer
http://tiamat.tsotech.com/unfair-comparisons

======
sker
Benchmark Nazis will_always complain about _any_ benchmark,_no matter_what.
Don't let them dissuade you_from continuing work_on this_amazing project.

Personally, this_project has prompted me to change_my career path_from C# to
something else, due to_the_abysmal performance of_ASP.NET._I'm_still waiting
to_see more tests,_especially_the asp-stripped_one,_and hopefully some
OWIN/Katana in the near_future._But for now, I'm seriously considering
JS/Node.js or_Scala/JVM as my main_development_platform. So thanks.

Is there_any date for the next_round?

~~~
MalcolmEvershed
I worked on improving the aspnet_(on Windows)_results and_I committed aspnet-
stripped (based on @pdonald's aspnet tests) and HttpListener.

As that_committer, I have to ask: Why_would you change your_career path_due_to
supposed 'abysmal performance'_reported_on a_website?

Keep in mind that the 'abysmal performance'_of many_of the frameworks can
still handle millions_of requests per day._Plus,_many of the'slower'
frameworks have other