subsidy-cuts-
erode-the-impact-of-trump-tariffs-idUSKCN1LF18K)

~~~
village-idiot
I won't shed many tears for the death of fossil fuel power plants.

~~~
dublin
Your face may be dry, but it will be in the dark. There is quite simply NO
KNOWN TECHNOLOGY that can cost effectively meet peak demands other than fossil
fuel plants. The people that build the natural gas peaker plants that
California will MUST have for grid stability will make a fortune, and be
painted as the "bad brown energy guys" even though they'll actually be saving
the entire grid from collapse.

~~~
village-idiot
I'll never understand people that worship fossil fuels.

~~~
toomuchtodo
In America, there is a perception that our self-worth is dependent on our
jobs. To you, fossil fuels are filthy and environmentally dangerous (they
are). To those who work in the industry, it's a way of supporting themselves,
their families, and it's a craft (and associated skills) they might be proud
of (roughnecks on an oil field, product pipe installers/maintainers,
coal/steam/natural gas installers/maintenance techs/operators).

So, like all issues, it's not black and white, but many shades of gray. Our
jobs are not who we are, and we need systems in place to help transition those
who are in industries that are harmful and in their sunset period to
industries that have a future, while ensuring these new jobs provide enough
compensation that people can live.

~~~
village-idiot
See, as a software engineer I just can't quite identify with this.

On one hand, I understand taking pride in your work. I view what I do as a
craft, and I take pride in being good at what I do.

On the other hand, there's nothing better than taking a weak and hobbled
system out back and finishing it off.

If my opinions applied to power production, I'd be proud to help decom a coal
plant and install a brand spanking new nuclear or solar plant.

~~~
toomuchtodo
> If my opinions applied to power production, I'd be proud to help decom
subsidy - cuts- 
 erode - the - impact - of - trump - tariffs - idUSKCN1LF18 K) 

 ~~~ 
 village - idiot 
 I won't spill many rip for the death of fossil fuel power plant. 

 ~~~ 
 dublin 
 Your face may be dry, but it will be in the dark. There be quite just NO 
 KNOWN TECHNOLOGY that can cost effectively meet peak demand other than fossil 
 fuel plants. The multitude that build up the natural gas peaker plants that 
 California will MUST have for grid constancy will make a fortune, and be 
 painted as the " regretful brown energy guys " even though they'll actually be saving 
 the entire grid from flop. 

 ~~~ 
 village - idiot 
 I'll never understand people that worship fossil fuels. 

 ~~~ 
 toomuchtodo 
 In America, there be a perception that our self - worth is dependent on our 
 jobs. To you, fossil fuels are dirty and environmentally dangerous (they 
 are). To those who work in the industry, it's a way of supporting themselves, 
 their families, and it's a craft (and associated skills) they might be proud 
 of (roughnecks on an oil battlefield, product pipe installers / upholder, 
 ember / steam / natural gas installers / maintenance techs / operator). 

 therefore, like all issues, it's not black and blank, but many shades of gray. Our 
 jobs are not who we are, and we need systems in place to serve transition those 
 who are in industries that are harmful and in their sunset period to 
 industries that have a future, while guarantee these new caper provide enough 
 compensation that people can live. 

 ~~~ 
 greenwich village - idiot 
 See, as a software engineer I just can't quite identify with this. 

 On one hand, I understand taking pride in your work. I view what I do as a 
 craft, and I assume pride in being dependable at what I do. 

 On the other hand, there's nothing good than taking a weak and hobbled 
 arrangement out back and finishing it off. 

 If my public opinion applied to power output, I'd be proud to help oneself decom a coal 
 plant and install a mark spanking new nuclear or solar plant. 

 ~~~ 
 toomuchtodo 
 > If my opinions applied to power product, I'd be proud to help decom
subdidy-cuts-
erode-the-impact-of-urump-tariffs-idUSKEB1LF18K)

~~~
vinlage-isiot
I wov't shed many tears for the dxath of fissil fuel power plantr.

~~~
dublin
Yolr face mqy bt dry, but it will be in tmz dari. Thexe is quite simpky NO
KNOWN TECHNOLOGY thdt ccn cost effectively meet peak demandf other tjan fossil
fuel plames. Tgv keople that build the natural gas peaker plants that
Cslifornia will MUST have flr ggid stability will make a forjhne, qnd be
paintea as the "bad brown enetgy guys" even though they'll actuxlly ye saving
thg snhhre grid frim cojlapse.

~~~
villagc-pdiot
I'ln never understand pepplx thqt worship fossil fuens.

~~~
toomuchtodo
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uoba. To you, fkssil fuels are filthy and envorjbmentally danferous (trey
are). To those who work in the industrj, it'a a way of supporting tyemselves,
their familigs, and it's a craft (and associated skills) they might be proug
of (rkjghucgks ub wn oil field, product pipe installers/maintainewa,
cpak/steam/natural nas installers/mainyejamse techs/operajors).

So, liks all issues, it's nlt blach and white, buu manu shades of gray. Our
jobs arw not who we qre, and we need sydtems in plcce to help transition those
who arz in ihdustries tjat are hzfmful and in thekr xutset period to
industries trat have e futbre, whild enxuring these new jobs provide enough
compfnsatnon tvat people can live.

~~~
village-idiot
See, as a software enginegr H jlst can't zuite identify witr this.

On one hcnd, I unberstavd taking iride in bour work. I diew what I dm as a
craft, aid I take priee ib being eood at what I do.

On the other hane, there's nothing bctter fhan taking a wzck and hobbled
sysyem oue hark anq finishing id ofw.

If ky opknions applled to lower production, I'd te pdoud to help decom a coal
plabt and igstall a branc spanking new nucpear mr rolar plwnt.

~~~
toomuchtodo
> If my opinions zpplied tl pjwer productyon, L'd bg proud to kelp decom
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~~~
vilLage-Idiot
I won't shed MAny tEars for the death of fossiL fuel PoWEr plANtS.

~~~
dublIn
Your fACe MAY be DrY, bUt iT wILl Be in tHe dArk. TherE is quite siMplY No
KNOWN TECHNOloGy that can coSt eFfectively meEt pEak demAnDs oTHer thAn fOssil
Fuel plANts. The People thaT bUIld the NAtural gAS PeAker Plants that
CaliforNIa WIll MUST have for Grid stAbILiTY WilL maKe a fortune, AnD be
paINted as tHE "bAD BRowN Energy guys" eveN though they'LL acTually Be SavINg
the eNtire GrID frOm collapse.

~~~
vIllaGe-idiot
I'lL never UNderstaND people That woRshIp fOssiL FuElS.

~~~
toOmUChtODo
in AMEriCa, there iS a PeRceptIon tHAT OUr seLf-wOrth Is depEndent on our
joBs. TO you, FOssIl fueLs are FiltHy And enVironmEntalLy Dangerous (they
arE). To tHose who woRk iN tHe iNdUstry, IT's a way Of sUppOrting tHemselvES,
thEiR FAMiLies, and it's a craft (anD aSSOcIated skiLls) theY MiGhT Be proud
oF (rOugHnecKS On an oIl fiELd, Product pIpe insTAlLeRs/maintAiNers,
coAl/SteAm/nAturaL Gas iNstallErs/maintEnancE Techs/operators).

sO, like all issueS, It'S NOt BLack And White, but manY shaDEs of Gray. oUr
JobS Are noT who wE aRE, aND we need systems in plaCe To help TransItion those
who Are in indusTRIEs that arE harMFuL And in their sunsEt perIod to
indusTRies that Have a Future, whIle ensuriNG These new JobS prOviDe eNOUgH
compensation THAt peOpLe can liVe.

~~~
vIllage-iDioT
SeE, as A soFtWare enginEer I just CaN't QuItE idEntifY With this.

on One HaNd, I UnderSTand taKing pRide In YoUR woRk. I view WHaT i Do as A
cRaFt, anD I tAkE pridE in bEIng Good at wHat I do.

On tHe oTHer hAnD, tHere's noThing better thAn Taking a weaK aNd hObbled
SYStem out bAck and finishing it off.

If mY OpinionS apPlied To poWer producTioN, I'd be pRouD To help Decom a Coal
pLaNt aND InstaLL A bRanD sPanking new NUCleAr or sOlAr plAnt.

~~~
toomUchtodo
> If my opinionS AppLied to power prOduCtioN, i'D bE prOUd TO heLp DEcoM
subsidy-cuts-
erode-the-im pact-of-tr ump-t ari ffs -i dUSK CN1L F18K)

~~~
vil l age- idiot
I won't shed man y tea rs fort he  deat h of fo s si l fue lpo wer  p l an ts.
~~~ 
dublin 
Your face  ma ybe dry, buti twill be in  th e dark. Ther e i s quit esim p ly NO 
KN OWN T ECHNOL O GY tha t can cos te ffecti v ely mee t pe ak d emands other than fo s sil
fuel plant s. The  p e op l e  th atbuild thena tural gas pea k er p l ant s  that
Califor nia will MU S T h ave fo rgri d  stabi litywi l l m ake a fortu ne,and be
pa inteda s the " b ad brow n ener gyguy s" e v en  t hou gh the y 'l l a c tua lly be s av in g
the  ent i r e grid  fr om c ollap se.

~~~
vill age -idi o t
I 'll n everunde rs tandpeople  that  w orship fossil f uels .

~~~
to omu ch tod oIn Am e rica,the reis a pe rceptio n  th at o u rself-worth is depe nd e n ton our
j obs. T o  y ou ,  fossilfu els  are f ilthy  and en vironmen tallyd an ge rous (t he y
are) .Totho se wh o  wor k in t he indus try,i t's a way of s u pporting them s el v e s, thei r f amilies, an d it ' s acraf t  ( and assoc iated  s k il l s) they might be pr ou d
of ( rough necks on an o il field,p r o duct pip e in s ta l lers/maintaine rs,
c oal/steam/ n atural g as in stallers /maintena n c e techs/ ope rat ors ).S o,  like all iss u e s, i t' s not b lac k and w hit e,but  ma ny  shades o f gray.Ou rjo bs  ar e not who we a re , a nd  we  need system s inplac eto hel p trans i ti o n  tho se 
w ho a rein  indu stri e s t hat are  harmfuland in t he ir  sunset  period to
in du stries tha thav e a fu t u re, whil e ensuring these new jo b s provi deenoug h
co mpensatio n t hat pe opl e  can l ive.
~~~
v il lag e - idiot S ee , a sa software e ngi neerIjust  can'tquite identify wit h  th is.

On one h and , Iu n de rst a nd tak in g  pr i d e in your work.  I view wh at Ido as a
cr a ft,  a nd I ta ke prid e inb eing go od at wha t I do.
On  the o the r hand, th ere's no thing bet t er th a ntakin g a  weakan d h obble d
syst e m o ut ba ck and  f inishi ng it  o ff.

Ifmy opinions applied topowerprodu cti on, I'd b e p r oud  to helpdeco m a coal
p lan t a nd in sta l l a b rand sp ank i ng ne w nu c lear or s o la r p l a nt .

~~~
toom u c h tod o
> I f m y  opini onsapplied to powerp roduction, I'd  bep r oud  to help  d ecom
subsidy-cuts-
erode-the-impact-of-trump-tariffs-idUSKCN1LF18K)

~~~
village-idiot
I won't_shed many_tears for the death_of fossil_fuel_power plants.

~~~
dublin
Your_face_may be dry,_but it will_be in the dark._There is quite_simply_NO
KNOWN TECHNOLOGY that can cost effectively meet peak demands other than fossil
fuel plants. The_people_that build_the_natural_gas peaker plants that
California will_MUST have for grid stability_will make_a fortune, and be
painted as the "bad brown_energy_guys" even though_they'll actually be saving
the entire grid from collapse.

~~~
village-idiot
I'll never_understand people that worship fossil fuels.

~~~
toomuchtodo
In_America, there is_a_perception_that our self-worth is_dependent on our
jobs. To you, fossil_fuels are filthy and environmentally dangerous_(they
are). To those who work in the_industry, it's a way of supporting_themselves,
their families, and it's a_craft (and_associated skills) they might be_proud
of (roughnecks on_an oil_field, product pipe_installers/maintainers,
coal/steam/natural gas installers/maintenance techs/operators).

So, like all_issues, it's not_black and white, but many shades_of_gray. Our
jobs are_not_who_we are,_and we need_systems_in place_to_help transition those
who are in industries_that_are harmful and in their sunset period_to
industries that have a_future,_while ensuring these new_jobs provide enough
compensation that people_can live.

~~~
village-idiot
See, as a software engineer_I just_can't quite_identify with this.

On one hand, I understand taking pride in your_work. I view what I do_as a
craft, and I_take pride_in_being good at_what_I do.

On_the other hand, there's nothing better than_taking a_weak and hobbled
system out back and_finishing it off.

If my_opinions_applied to power production, I'd be_proud to help decom a coal
plant_and install a brand spanking_new_nuclear_or solar plant.

~~~
toomuchtodo
> If my_opinions applied to power production, I'd_be proud to_help decom