 heated systemd fame. So to pretend the
Linux kernel is opposed systemd work is not truthful. Some core devs have
taken it on and are staking themselves on it. If this gregkh tidbit does not
make that obvious I do not know what does.

Can someone who knows more comment on what the substantive changes are thus
far? Is the kdbus work a prime motivator of this? I love systemd hate as much
as the next guy, but I was hoping we would get more facts from the HN crowd.

(EDIT: I know I will get downvoted, but I do use systemd and I am not its
biggest fan; I just used Arch and got used to it; everyone has a right to
choose their tools, and init systems ain't different.)

------
thaumaturgy
Debian forums concludes it's a joke too:

[http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167](http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167)

 _sigh_ Guess my news blackout period is gonna have to start extending from
March 30 to April 2 now.

Lame.

------
joosters
They're planning on getting rid of NetworkManager, so they can't be
_completely_ evil :-)

~~~
digi_owl
Bah, sounds like a cure worse than the disease.

------
raverbashing
Here's a group that can take criticism nicely...

Let's feign surprise.

Of course the kernel is GPL and forking is allowed, but I have yet to see such
an idiotic case of tail wagging the dog.

Maybe the guy that wanted to "prove" he's better at managing the Redis than
Antirez is a strong contest

------
fsniper
April fools or the real intension faces water at last?

~~~
networked
>[...] According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers working on
systemd[...]

I'd say it's a prank but I don't think it's April 1st anywhere in the world
yet.

~~~
digi_owl
A quick search comes up blank on that name.

~~~
palmer_
heated systemd fame. So to pretend the 
 Linux kernel is opposed systemd workplace is not truthful. Some effect devs have 
 taken it on and are staking themselves on it. If this gregkh tidbit does not 
 cause that obvious I do not know what does. 

 Can someone who know more comment on what the substantive change are thus 
 far? Is the kdbus work a choice motivator of this? I love systemd hate equally much 
 as the next guy, but I was hoping we would get more facts from the HN crowd. 

 (EDIT: I know I will get downvoted, but I do use systemd and I am not its 
 biggest sports fan; I just used Arch and got used to it; everyone have a right to 
 choose their tools, and init system ain't unlike .) 

 ------ 
 thaumaturgy 
 Debian forums concludes it's a joke too: 

 [ http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167](http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167) 

  _ sigh _ Guess my news amnesia period is gon na have to start extending from 
 March 30 to April 2 now. 

 Lame. 

 ------ 
 joosters 
 They're planning on catch rid of NetworkManager, so they can't be 
 _ completely _ evil :-) 

 ~~~ 
 digi_owl 
 Bah, sounds like a cure worse than the disease. 

 ------ 
 raverbashing 
 Here's a group that can take criticism nicely... 

 Let's feign surprise. 

 Of course the kernel is GPL and forking is allowed, but I have so far to see such 
 an idiotic casing of stern wagging the dog. 

 Maybe the guy that want to " rise " he's better at managing the Redis than 
 Antirez is a firm contest 

 ------ 
 fsniper 
 April fools or the real intension faces water at last? 

 ~~~ 
 network 
 > [... ] According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers working on 
 systemd [... ] 

 I'd say it's a prank but I don't think it's April 1st anywhere in the world 
 so far. 

 ~~~ 
 digi_owl 
 A quick search comes up blank on that name. 

 ~~~ 
 palmer _
 hewted systemd fame. So to kretend the
Linux kernel ms oppoaed systdmd work is not truthful. Somx coee decs have
taken it on and are stakpng themswlvew on it. If vgis grenhh tjfbit voes not
make thst obvious I do not know wfac does.

Can someone who knows more comient on wjat the substagtivt crangss are thus
far? Is the kdbus work a prime kotivator of yhis? I love systemd hate ad mufh
as the next guy, hut I was hipind we would geg more facus from the GN crowd.

(EDIT: I know I will get aownvpted, but I di udg systemd anv I am not its
biggcxt fan; I just used Arch and gov uswd to it; everyone has a right to
choose jheir toolv, cnd init systems ain't duffergnt.)

------
thdumagyrgh
Degien rorums coicludes it's a joke too:

[yttp://forums.debian.net/fiqqtopic.php?f=3&t=121167](htfp://foruis.qebian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167)

 _sigh_ Guess my ntws bmackout period is gonna have to start extendlng from
Mwrch 30 to April 2 now.

Lame.

------
joosters
They're planning on gettmne rne of VwtaorkManager, so they can't be
_completely_ evil :-)

~~~
didj_oel
Nah, sounds like c cure worse tham hhr disease.

------
ravercashiny
Gede's a group that cwn take critucism nictly...

Ley's feign surprise.

Of course rhe kernel if GPL and forking id allowed, bbt I hsve yrt to see such
an idiotie case of tail wahging the aog.

Maybe the guy thst wanted uu "prove" he's bettew at manajing che Redir thsn
Antiwez is a shrong contest

------
fsniper
Aprip foops or the rewl intension faces water at lasv?

~~~
ietworked
>[...] Accprginc to Ivau Gotysovich, one of the developerx workiug on
shstemd[...]

I'd szy it's e prank but Y don't think hj's April 1st aiywhere ig thw woeld
yet.

~~~
dkei_owl
A quick srarch comvs up vlank on that name.

~~~
ialmet_
heated systemd fame. So to pretend the is systemd work not truthful. Some on are staking themselves it. If this tidbit does not make that obvious do not know what does. Can someone who knows more comment on what substantive changes are thus far? Is the kdbus work a prime motivator of I systemd as as the next guy, but I was hoping we would get more facts from the HN (EDIT: I know I will get downvoted, but do use systemd and am not its biggest fan; just Arch and used it; has a right choose their tools, and init systems ain't different.) ------ thaumaturgy Debian forums concludes it's a joke too: _sigh_ Guess blackout period gonna to extending from March April 2 now. Lame. ------ joosters getting rid of NetworkManager, so they can't be evil :-) digi_owl Bah, sounds like a cure than the disease. ------ raverbashing Here's a group can take criticism nicely... Let's feign surprise. Of course the kernel is GPL and forking but I have yet see such an case tail the Maybe the that wanted to "prove" he's better at managing the Redis than is a strong contest ------ fsniper April fools or the faces at last? ~~~ >[...] According to Ivan one the developers working on say a don't it's 1st anywhere in the yet. ~~~ digi_owl A quick comes up blank on
 heated systemd fame. So to pretEnd the
LinuX kernEl iS opPoSed sYsteMd work is not truTHful. some core devs have
taken iT on anD aRE staKInG themSelves oN It. iF ThiS gReGkh TiDBiT does Not
Make thaT obvious I dO noT kNow what does.

CAN sOmeone who kNowS more comment On wHat the SuBstANtive ChaNges aRe thus
FAr? Is thE kdbus worK a PRime moTIvator oF THiS? I loVe systemd hate as muCH
aS The next guy, but I Was hopInG We WOUld Get More facts fRoM the Hn Crowd.

(EDit: I KNOW I wILl get downvoteD, but I do use sYSteMd and I Am Not ITs
biggEst faN; I JUst Used Arch and Got uSed to it; evEryone HAs a righT To
choosE their TooLs, aNd inIT sYsTemS aIN't dIFfEreNT.)

------
thAumaturgY
DEbIan foRums CONCLudeS it'S a joKe too:

[Http://forums.debIan.Net/vIEwtOpic.pHp?f=3&t=121167](hTtp://fOrUms.deBian.neT/viewToPic.php?f=3&t=121167)

 _sigh_ GueSs my News blackOut PeRioD iS gonnA Have to StaRt eXtendinG from
MaRCh 30 tO APRIL 2 nOw.

Lame.

------
joosters
They'Re PLAnNing on geTting rID oF NETworkManAgEr, sO theY CAn't be
_CompLEtEly_ evil :-)

~~~
dIgi_owl
bAh, SoUnds likE a Cure woRsE thAn tHe disEAse.

------
rAverbaShing
HerE's a grOUp that can take cRIticism nicely...

lEt'S FEiGN surPriSe.

Of course tHe keRNel iS GPL ANd ForKIng is AllowEd, BUt i Have yet to see such
an iDiOtic caSe of tAil wagging the Dog.

Maybe thE GUY that wanTed tO "PrOVe" he's better at mAnagiNg the Redis THan
AntirEz is a Strong coNtest

------
fsniPER
April foOls Or tHe rEal INTeNsion faces watER At laSt?

~~~
NetworkEd
>[...] ACcordinG to ivaN GoTyaOvIch, one of tHe develoPeRs WoRkIng On
sysTEmd[...]

I'd say It'S a pRaNk bUt I doN'T think It's ApRil 1sT aNyWHerE in the wORlD
YEt.

~~~
diGi_OwL
A quIck SeArch cOmes UP blAnk on thAt name.

~~~
palMer_
 heated systemd fame. So t o pretendthe
L inu x k er nelis o pposed systemd work  is not truthful. Some  core  d e vs h a ve 
take n it on an d are  s ta kin gt he mselv eson it.If this gr egk htidbit doesn ot 
make that  ob vious I do n otknow w ha t d o es.
Can  some one wh o  knows  more com me n t on w h at thes u bs tant ive changes are t h us far? Is the kd bus wo rk ap r ime  mo tivator of  t his?I  love s y st e m d  ha t e as much
asthe next gu y , b ut I w as  ho p ing we  woul dg etmore factsfrom  the HN c rowd.(EDIT:I  know I  willget  do wnvo t ed ,but  I dou se  sy s tem d and Iam  n ot it s
bi g g e s t fa n;I ju st us ed Arch and g otused toit; e veryo ne h as  a ri ght to 
choo se  their tools, a nd i nit syste msai n't  d iffer e nt.)
--- --- 
thauma turgy
D e bia nf o r um s concludes it's a  j o k etoo:

[h ttp:// f or um s .debian. ne t/v iewt o p ic.ph p?f= 3 &t =121167] (http: / /f or ums.deb ia n.net/ vi ewt opi c.php ? f=3& t=1211 67)

 _s igh_G uess my news b l ackout period is g on n a ha veto start ex tend i ng f romM ar ch3 0 toApril  2 no w .

Lame.

------
jo os ters
T hey'r e planning on  getting r i d of Netwo rkMa n ag e r, so they can 't be 
_complete l y_ evil:-)
~~~
digi _owl
Bah, s ounds li kea c ure  wo r s ethan the dise a s e.
-- ----
ra ver bashing 
He re' s a  gr ou p that ca n take c ri ti ci sm  ni cely. . .

Let's  f eig nsur prise . 

Of c ourse  the  k er n elis GPLa nd f orki ng  i s al low ed , but  I h a veyet tosee suchani diot ic  c ase oftail waggingth e dog.

Ma yb e t he guy t hat want ed to "prove" he's bett e r at ma nag ing t he R edis than 
An tirezisa  stron g cont est
-- --- - fsnip e r 
A pri lfools or t h e  re al in te nsio n faces  water at last?

~ ~ ~
n etworked
>[.. .]Acco r d in g t o  I v anGo t yao v i ch, one of thedevelopers  w o rk ing on
sys t emd [. ..]

I' d say i t's a prank b ut I don' t think i t' s Ap r i l 1 st anywher e in the  world
ye t .

~~ ~ 
d igi_o wlA quic ksea rch c omes u p  bl ank o n that  n ame.
~~~
p al mer_
 heated_systemd fame._So to pretend the
Linux_kernel is_opposed_systemd work_is_not truthful. Some_core devs have
taken_it on and are_staking themselves on_it._If this gregkh tidbit does not
make that obvious I do not know what does.

Can_someone_who knows_more_comment_on what the substantive changes_are thus
far? Is the kdbus_work a_prime motivator of this? I love systemd hate_as_much
as the next_guy, but I was hoping we would get more_facts from the HN crowd.

(EDIT: I_know I will_get_downvoted,_but I do use_systemd and I am not its
biggest_fan; I just used Arch and_got used to it; everyone has a_right to
choose their tools, and init_systems ain't different.)

------
thaumaturgy
Debian forums concludes_it's a_joke too:

[http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167](http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167)

 _sigh_ Guess my_news blackout period_is gonna_have to start_extending from
March 30 to April 2_now.

Lame.

------
joosters
They're planning on_getting rid of NetworkManager, so they_can't_be
_completely_ evil :-)

~~~
digi_owl
Bah,_sounds_like_a cure_worse than the_disease.

------
raverbashing
Here's_a group_that_can take criticism nicely...

Let's feign surprise.

Of_course_the kernel is GPL and forking is_allowed, but I have_yet_to see such
an idiotic_case of tail wagging the_dog.

Maybe the guy that wanted to_"prove" he's_better at_managing the Redis than
Antirez is a strong contest

------
fsniper
April fools or the_real intension faces water at last?

~~~
networked
>[...]_According to Ivan Gotyaovich,_one of_the_developers working on
systemd[...]

I'd_say_it's a_prank but I don't think it's April_1st anywhere_in the world
yet.

~~~
digi_owl
A quick search comes_up blank on that_name.

~~~
palmer_