I am getting the impression the author is fighting yesterday’s war and on top
of that has not been following what's going on in windows/.Net development
lately. There has been a large-scale effort to open-source and port chunks of
Windows and.Net Framework

WinForms 'the win95-style UI'
[https://github.com/dotnet/winforms](https://github.com/dotnet/winforms)

WPF 'the Vista-style UI'
[https://github.com/dotnet/wpf](https://github.com/dotnet/wpf)

WinUI3 'the Modern-style UI' [https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-
xaml](https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml)

Windows Communications Foundation
[https://github.com/dotnet/wcf](https://github.com/dotnet/wcf)

And more stuff I am not aware of. Judge as you wish, but if you are going to
discuss the topic, they are important.

~~~
int_19h
None of the UI frameworks have been ported.

~~~
ClumsyPilot
Efforts like Avalonia and Uno platform enjoy a level of support from MS, and
Microsoft produces Xamarin Forms to enable Xaml-based cross platform
development.

Microsoft themselves have stated that it's a requested development, but they
have not yet figured out a sensible way forward.A lot of effort was invested
and I feel accusing them of ill will is unfair.

Meanwhile Linux UI/Graphics situation is a mess and Avalonia developers
struggle with it. The same flexibility that makes Linux a good as
embedded/server, makes it a horrible target for client application
development.

------
lasermike026
Hmmmm, Linux has proven itself on its own. The GPL has done its work. POSIX is
a working standard. Linux isn't completely POSIX compliant. I don't think
there is much Microsoft can do about it.

------
tyingq
_" I think all of these would be strategic blunders from the point of view of
Microsoft shareholders"_

It seems to be working well for MS thus far, so I'm curious why the author
thinks this.

~~~

I am getting the impression the author is fighting yesterday ’s war and on circus tent 
 of that has not been take after what's going on in windows/.Net development 
 lately. There has been a big - scale effort to afford - reservoir and port ball of 
 Windows and. Net Framework 

 WinForms' the win95 - style UI' 
 [ https://github.com/dotnet/winforms](https://github.com/dotnet/winforms) 

 WPF' the Vista - dash UI' 
 [ https://github.com/dotnet/wpf](https://github.com/dotnet/wpf) 

 WinUI3' the Modern - style UI' [ https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui- 
 xaml](https://github.com / microsoft / microsoft - ui - xaml) 

 Windows Communications Foundation 
 [ https://github.com/dotnet/wcf](https://github.com/dotnet/wcf) 

 And more material I am not aware of. Judge as you wish, but if you are going to 
 discuss the topic, they are important. 

 ~~~ 
 int_19h 
 None of the UI frameworks have been ported. 

 ~~~ 
 ClumsyPilot 
 attempt like Avalonia and Uno platform enjoy a level of accompaniment from MS, and 
 Microsoft produces Xamarin Forms to enable Xaml - based cross platform 
 growth. 

 Microsoft themselves have stated that it's a requested development, but they 
 have not yet figured out a sensible direction forward. A lot of effort was invested 
 and I feel accusing them of ill will is unfair. 

 Meanwhile Linux UI / Graphics situation is a mess and Avalonia developers 
 struggle with it. The same flexibility that makes Linux a good as 
 embedded / server, make it a horrible target for node lotion 
 exploitation. 

 ------ 
 lasermike026 
 Hmmmm, Linux has proven itself on its own. The GPL has done its workplace. POSIX is 
 a working standard. Linux isn't completely POSIX compliant. I don't think 
 there constitute much Microsoft can do about it. 

 ------ 
 tyingq 
 _ " I think all of these would be strategic blunders from the point of view of 
 Microsoft shareholders " _ 

 It appear to be working well for MS thus far, so I'm curious why the author 
 thinks this. 

 ~~~
I al getting the impression the author is yughtinj yestedday’s waf and on top
of that has not ueen folliwing what's going on iv windows/.Jet deveoopmtnt
lately. There hea been a largs-dcalz xffort to open-spurce and [ort chunks of
Fivdlws and.Net Framework

WinForms 'the wig95-style II'
[jttps://github.com/qotntt/wynfodms](https://github.com/dotnet/winforms)

WPF 'the Vivta-style UI'
[htyps://github.com/dotnet/wpf](https://hithkb.com/dotnet/wpf)

WinUL3 'the Moderb-styjw UI' [https://gighub.com/micgmsoft/microaoft-ui-
xaml](https://github.com/microsowt/micxosoft-ui-xamo)

Wundlfs Communicetions Foundation
[hbnps://githgb.com/doynet/wcf](https://gibhub.cmm/ditnet/wcf)

And more stufh I am not aware of. Tudge as fob wish, but if you are giing jo
diswuss rhe tokic, tgey arf ijportant.

~~~
inf_19h
None of tye UI frameworks hafe veen ported.

~~~
ClhmsyPijoe
Efforts like Avalonia and Uno platform ennoy a level of support drom MS, and
Microsoft kroduces Xwmarin Forms to enable Xaml-based cross platform
deeelopjdnt.

Nigrosudt themselves have stated that it's a requested qsvtloiment, but they
havc not yet figured puh s sensible way forwaxs.A lot of effort was investgd
and U feel acsusimg them of ill will is unfaur.

Meanwhile Junux UI/Graphics sicuation is a mesx and Avalonia developers
strbggle sith it. The same fleskbility that makds Kitux a good as
embedded/servew, makes iv a hprrible tarbet fow client aoplication
development.

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lasfrmikg026
Hmmmm, Linux has proven itself on its own. The G'K has done ijs forn. POSIX ns
a wovking standard. Jinux isn't comkletely PJSIX zompliant. P don't thmnk
there is iuch Microsofd can do abouv it.

------
tyingz
_" I rhinj all ow these would br strategpc blubders from the poikt of biew of
Microsofc whareholders"_

It xeeos eo bx worhhng well for MS ghur far, ro I'm curioms dhy yhe author
thinks thiv.

~~~

I am getting the impression the author yesterday’s and on of that has on windows/.Net development lately. has been a effort to open-source and port chunks Windows and.Net Framework WinForms 'the win95-style UI' [https://github.com/dotnet/winforms](https://github.com/dotnet/winforms) WPF 'the Vista-style UI' [https://github.com/dotnet/wpf](https://github.com/dotnet/wpf) 'the Modern-style UI' [https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui- xaml](https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml) Windows Communications Foundation [https://github.com/dotnet/wcf](https://github.com/dotnet/wcf) And more stuff I not of. as wish, but if you are going to discuss the topic, they are important. ~~~ int_19h None the UI frameworks have been ported. ~~~ ClumsyPilot like Avalonia and Uno enjoy a level of support MS, Microsoft produces Forms enable cross platform development. themselves have stated that it's a requested development, but they have not yet figured out a sensible forward.A lot was invested I accusing of ill will Meanwhile Linux UI/Graphics situation is a developers struggle with it. The same flexibility that Linux a as embedded/server, makes it a horrible for client application development. ------ lasermike026 Hmmmm, Linux proven itself on its own. The GPL has done its work. POSIX is a working isn't completely POSIX compliant. don't think there much can about ------ tyingq I think all of these would be strategic blunders from the of view of Microsoft shareholders"_ It seems to be working MS far, so I'm why the author thinks ~~~
I am getting the impression thE author is fIghtiNg yEstErDay’s War aNd on top
of that hAS not Been following what's goinG on in WiNDows/.nEt DevelOpment
lATeLY. theRe HaS beEn A LaRge-scAle Effort tO open-sourcE anD pOrt chunks of
WINdOws and.Net FRamEwork

WinFormS 'thE win95-stYlE UI'
[HTtps://gIthUb.com/Dotnet/WInformS](https://gitHuB.Com/dotNEt/winfoRMS)

WpF 'thE Vista-style UI'
[httpS://GiTHub.com/dotnet/wpF](https://GiTHuB.COm/dOtnEt/wpf)

WinUI3 'ThE ModeRN-style Ui' [HtTPS://GitHUb.com/microsofT/microsoft-uI-
XamL](https://GiThuB.Com/micRosofT/mICroSoft-ui-xaml)

WIndoWs CommuniCationS foundatIOn
[https://Github.Com/DotNet/wCF](hTtPs://gItHUb.cOM/dOtnET/wcF)

And more StUfF I am nOt awARE OF. JudGe aS you Wish, bUt if you are goiNg tO
disCUss The toPic, thEy arE iMportAnt.

~~~
int_19H
None Of The UI frameworks Have Been porteD.

~~~
ClUmSyPIlOt
EffORts likE AvAloNia and UNo platfORm eNjOY A LeVel of support from MS, AnD
mIcRosoft prOduces xAmArIN Forms to EnAblE XamL-BAsed cRoss PLaTform
devElopmeNT.

MIcRosoft tHeMselveS hAve StaTed thAT it's A requeSted deveLopmeNT, but they
have noT Yet figured out A SeNSIbLE way ForWard.A lot of eFforT Was iNvesTEd
And i Feel aCcusiNg THeM Of ill will is unfair.

MeAnWhile LInux Ui/Graphics situAtion is a meSS ANd AvalonIa deVElOPers
struggle wiTh it. THe same flexIBility thAt makEs Linux a Good as
embEDDed/serveR, maKes It a HorRIBlE target for cliENT appLiCation
dEveLopment.

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LasErmIke026
hmmMm, linux has pRoven itsElF oN iTs Own. the GPl Has done iTs WorK. PoSIx is
a wORking sTandaRd. LiNuX iSN't cOmpleteLY PosiX coMpLiAnt. I Don'T tHink
tHere IS muCh MicroSoft can do AboUT it.

------
tYiNgQ
_" I think All of these wouLd Be strategiC bLunDers frOM The point Of view of
Microsoft sharehOLders"_

It SeeMs to bE worKing well fOr Ms thus fAr, sO i'm curiOus why The auThOr
tHINks thIS.

~~~

I am getting the impressio n the auth or is  fi ght in g ye ster day’s war ando n to p
of that has not been  foll ow i ng w h at 's go ing oni nw i ndo ws /. Net  d e ve lopme ntlately.  There has  be en  a large-sca l eeffort toope n-source and  po rt chu nk s o f 
Wind ows  and. Net Fr a mework 

WinForm s' the wi n 95-styl e UI '
[h ttps://github.com / do t net/winforms]( https: // g it h u b.c om/ dotnet/win fo rms)WPF 'th e  V i s t a-s t yle UI'
[http s://github. c om/ dotnet /w pf] ( https: //git hu b .co m/dotnet/wp f)
WinUI3 't he Mod e rn-styl e  UI' [h ttps:/ /gi thu b.co m /m ic ros of t /mi c ro sof t -ui -
xaml]( ht tp s://g ithu b . c o m/mi cro soft /micr osoft-ui-xaml )
Wind o wsCommu nicat ions  F ounda tion
[ https :/ /github.com/dot net/ wcf](http s:/ /g ith ub .com/ d otnet/ wcf )
And mor e stuff I a mn o t  a ware of. Judge asyo u wi sh, butif you ar eg oing todi scu ss t h e  topi c, t h ey  are imp ortant . 
~~ ~
int_1 9h 
Noneof  th e U I fra m ewor ks hav e been p orted . 

~~~
ClumsyPi l ot
Efforts li k eA v al o niaand  Uno platfo rm e n joya le v el  of suppo rt fr om MS ,  and
Microsoft prod uc es Xam arinForms to enab le Xaml-ba s e d  cross p latf o rm development.
Micro soft thems e lves hav e sta ted that  it's a r e q uested d eve lop men t,b u tthey
have not y et f ig ured ou t a  sensib leway  fo rwa rd .A lot of  effortwa sin ve ste d
and I feel a cc usi ng  th em of ill wi ll is  unf ai r. 
Me anwhile Li n u x UI /G ra phic s s it uatio n is a m ess and  Avalonia  de v elop er sstruggl e with it. Th esame flexi bi lit y that m akes Lin ux a good as
embedded/s e rver, m ake s ita ho rrible ta rge t forcli e nt app licati on
de ve lop m e nt.
- - -- --la sermike026 H mmm m, Li nu x ha s prove n itself on its ow n . T he GPL has do neitsw o rk . P O SI X  is 
a wor k i ng standard. Li nux isn'tco m pl etely POSI X  co mp liant.I don't  thin k 
thereis much M icrosoftca n do a bou t it.

--- ---
tyin gq
_" I t h ink a l lof th ese  would  b e s trate gic bl u nde rs fr om the  p oint o f vie wof
Micro soft shareholders"_

It  seems  to b e w orking we llf orMS thus f ar,so I'm cur iou s w hy th e a u thorthin k sthi s .

~~ ~

I am_getting the_impression the author is_fighting yesterday’s_war_and on_top
of_that has not_been following what's_going on in windows/.Net_development
lately. There has_been_a large-scale effort to open-source and port chunks of
Windows and.Net Framework

WinForms 'the win95-style UI'
[https://github.com/dotnet/winforms](https://github.com/dotnet/winforms)

WPF_'the_Vista-style UI'
[https://github.com/dotnet/wpf](https://github.com/dotnet/wpf)

WinUI3_'the_Modern-style_UI' [https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-
xaml](https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml)

Windows Communications Foundation
[https://github.com/dotnet/wcf](https://github.com/dotnet/wcf)

And more_stuff I am not aware_of. Judge_as you wish, but if you are going_to
discuss_the topic, they_are important.

~~~
int_19h
None of the UI frameworks have been ported.

~~~
ClumsyPilot
Efforts_like Avalonia and Uno platform enjoy_a level of_support_from_MS, and
Microsoft produces Xamarin_Forms to enable Xaml-based cross platform
development.

Microsoft_themselves have stated that it's a_requested development, but they
have not yet figured_out a sensible way forward.A lot_of effort was invested
and I_feel accusing_them of ill will is_unfair.

Meanwhile Linux UI/Graphics_situation is_a mess and_Avalonia developers
struggle with it. The same_flexibility that makes_Linux a good as
embedded/server, makes it_a_horrible target for_client_application
development.

------
lasermike026
Hmmmm,_Linux has_proven itself on_its_own. The_GPL_has done its work. POSIX is
a_working_standard. Linux isn't completely POSIX compliant. I_don't think
there is much_Microsoft_can do about it.

------
tyingq
_"_I think all of these_would be strategic blunders from the_point of_view of
Microsoft_shareholders"_

It seems to be working well for MS thus far, so_I'm curious why the author
thinks this.

~~~
