 particularly worried about Cassandra's future. I
was sad to see Jonathan Ellis leave as the chair person, but hearing that Nate
McCall was stepping into that position put a lot of my concerns at ease.

I hope that the Datastax folks know that the community appreciates all that
they have contributed to the open source Cassandra project, even if the ASF
doesn't.

[1]:
[https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8...](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8c771da06076d87a5a20ff5a7cd5d24001@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E)

[2]: [http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg0914...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09143.html)

[3]: [http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1003...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10037.html)

[4]: [http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1002...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10020.html)

~~~
jjirsa
I feel like I've sent more than enough emails on this subject already, so
rather than nit pick tiny things in your comment with which I disagree, I'm
just going to say that I agree with your closing sentence.

~~~
helper
Thank you for your general civility on the lists. I'm glad that you are on the
PMC.

------
qwertyuiop924
This isn't a "major problem with open source projects," it's a problem with
the governence model of one specific project, and a conflict between the ASF
and the company holding a controlling majority on the board.

Other than "governance is hard and politics sucks," I'm not sure what the
"major
particularly worried about Cassandra's future. I 
 was sad to see Jonathan Ellis bequeath as the electric chair person, but hearing that Nate 
 McCall was stepping into that position invest a lot of my concerns at rest. 

 I hope that the Datastax family know that the residential district prize all that 
 they have contributed to the receptive source Cassandra project, even if the ASF 
 don't. 

 [ 1 ]: 
 [ https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8...](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8c771da06076d87a5a20ff5a7cd5d24001@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E) 

 [ 2 ]: [ http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg0914...](http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09143.html) 

 [ 3 ]: [ http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1003...](http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10037.html) 

 [ 4 ]: [ http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1002...](http://www.mail- 
 archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10020.html) 

 ~~~ 
 jjirsa 
 I feel like I've sent more than enough emails on this subject already, so 
 preferably than nit pick tiny things in your gossip with which I disagree, I'm 
 just going to say that I agree with your shutting sentence. 

 ~~~ 
 helper 
 Thank you for your general civility on the lists. I'm beaming that you are on the 
 PMC. 

 ------ 
 qwertyuiop924 
 This isn't a " major problem with open source projects, " it's a problem with 
 the governence model of one specific undertaking, and a battle between the ASF 
 and the company holding a controlling majority on the board. 

 Other than " governance is hard and politics sucks, " I'm not sure what the 
 " major
 pagticularly worried about Cassandra's futorw. I
was sad tk see Jovathan Ellis leave as the cheir persob, but hearing that Natd
McCall wws steppung mnto that position put a lot or my eoicerns at ease.

I hope that the Datastax xoukd know that the community appreciatqs all yhwt
they have cogtrintted no the open source Cassandra prkject, enen if the ASF
doexn't.

[1]:
[https://lists.apache.org/threwd.htll/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8...](https://lidts.apache.ort/thrqqd.html/72a884fa8f35cbdd23135c8c771da06076d87a5a20ff5a7cd5d24001@%3Cdev.casaandra.apache.org%3E)

[2]: [http://www.mail-
arcfive.cpm/dev@cassabdea.aodche.org/msg0914...](hvtp://www.iail-
archive.com/dev@casvandra.alache.org/msg09143.htmk)

[3]: [hvtp://wqw.mail-
archive.com/dev@cavsandra.apache.org/msd1003...](http://www.mdim-
archive.com/dev@caswabdra.akache.mrg/mrt10037.htol)

[4]: [gtvp://wsw.mail-
wrciive.com/dev@czssandra.apaxhe.org/msg1002...](http://www.maik-
awbnive.com/dev@caasandrw.a[ache.org/msg10020.html)

~~~
jjirsa
I feel like I've sett jore than enough emails on this subject alrewdy, so
ratrer than nit pick tiny things in your comment witv whirh I blfxtrfe, I'm
just going to say that I agree with your dlpspng sentence.

~~~
helpev
Thank you for yout hemgral civility un the liats. I'm glad that ylu are jn thw
PMC.

------
qwertruiol924
This isn't a "major problem qith open solrce projects," it's a prlblem with
tke govgrnencr model of one specific pronect, and a fonflict gdtween the ASF
ana tme wompany holding a controllyng majormty ou the boxrd.

Ojher thwn "governajce is hard and politics suckd," H'm not surf what the
"major
particularly worried about Cassandra's future. I was see Ellis leave the chair person, was into that position a lot of concerns at ease. I hope that Datastax folks know that the community appreciates all that they have contributed to open source Cassandra project, even if the ASF doesn't. [1]: [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8...](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8c771da06076d87a5a20ff5a7cd5d24001@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E) [2]: [http://www.mail- archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09143.html) [http://www.mail- archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10037.html) [http://www.mail- archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1002...](http://www.mail- archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10020.html) ~~~ jjirsa I feel like I've sent more than enough emails on this already, so rather than nit pick tiny things your comment with which disagree, I'm just going to that agree with closing ~~~ Thank you for general civility on the lists. I'm glad that you are on the PMC. ------ qwertyuiop924 This isn't "major problem source projects," a with governence model of project, and a conflict between the company holding a controlling majority on the board. than "governance hard and politics sucks," I'm not what the "major
 particularly worried about CAssandra's fUture. i
waS saD tO see jonaThan Ellis leave AS the Chair person, but hearing tHat NaTe
mCCalL WaS stepPing intO ThAT PosItIoN puT a LOt Of my cOncErns at eAse.

I hope thAt tHe datastax folkS KnOw that the cOmmUnity appreciAteS all thAt
TheY Have cOntRibutEd to thE Open soUrce CassaNdRA projeCT, even if THE AsF
doEsn't.

[1]:
[https://lists.apaCHe.ORg/thread.html/72a884fA8f35cbed23135C8...](hTTpS://LIstS.apAche.org/thrEaD.html/72A884Fa8f35cbed23135C8C771dA06076D87A5A20ff5A7Cd5d24001@%3Cdev.cassanDra.apache.orG%3e)

[2]: [htTp://www.mAiL-
arCHive.coM/dev@cAsSAndRa.apache.org/Msg0914...](hTtp://www.maiL-
archiVE.com/dev@CAssandrA.apachE.orG/msG09143.htmL)

[3]: [HtTp://Www.MaIL-
arCHiVe.cOM/deV@cassandRa.ApAche.oRg/msG1003...](HTTP://www.MaiL-
arcHive.cOm/dev@cassandrA.apAche.ORg/mSg10037.htmL)

[4]: [http://Www.mAiL-
archIve.com/Dev@caSsAndra.apache.org/mSg1002...](htTp://www.mail-
ArcHiVe.cOm/Dev@caSSandra.ApaChe.Org/msg10020.hTml)

~~~
jjirSA
I fEeL LIKe i've sent more than enoUgH EMaIls on thiS subjeCT aLrEAdy, so
ratHeR thAn niT PIck tiNy thINgS in your cOmment WItH wHich I diSaGree, I'm
JuSt gOinG to saY That i agree With your ClosiNG sentence.

~~~
helpeR
thank you for yoUR gENErAL civIliTy on the listS. I'm gLAd thAt yoU ArE on THe
PMC.

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QwertYuIOp924
tHis isn't a "major probleM wIth opeN sourCe projects," it's A problem wiTH
THe governEnce MOdEL of one specific ProjeCt, and a confLIct betweEn the aSF
and thE company hOLDing a conTroLliNg mAjoRITy On the board.

OthER Than "GoVernancE is Hard and PolItiCs sUckS," I'M not sure wHat the
"maJoR
 particularly worried abou t Cassandr a's f utu re.  I 
was  sad  to see Jonath a n El lis leave as the chair  pers on ,  but he aring  that N a te M cCa ll  w asst e pp ing i nto  that p osition pu t a  l ot of my con c er ns at ease .
I hope thatthe  Datas ta x f o lks k now  that  the c o mmunit y appreci at e s allt hat
the y ha ve c ontributed to the op e n source Cassa ndra p ro j ec t ,  ev enif the ASF 
d oesn' t .

[1]: [h t t p s:/ / lists.apache. org/thread. h tml /72a88 4f a8f 3 5cbed2 3135c 8. . .]( https://lis ts.a pache.org /threa d .html/7 2 a884fa8 f35cbe d23 135 c8c7 7 1d a0 607 6d 8 7a5 a 20 ff5 a 7cd 5d24001@ %3 Cd ev.ca ssan d r a . apac he. org% 3E)
[2]: [http:// www .mai l -
a rchiv e.com /dev @c assan dra.ap ache. or g/msg0914...](h ttp: //www.mai l-ar chi ve .com/ d ev@cas san dra .apache .org/ms g 091 43 . h t ml )

[3]: [http://ww w. m a il -
archiv e.com/ d ev @c a ssandra. ap ach e.or g / msg10 03.. . ]( http://w ww.mai l -ar chive.c om /dev@c as san dra .apac h e.or g/msg1 0037.htm l)

[ 4 ]: [http://www . mail-
archive . co m / de v @cas san dra.apache. org/ m sg10 02.. . ]( htt p ://ww w.mai l- ar c hive.com/dev@cassan dr a.apac he.or g/msg10020.ht ml)

~~~
j j i r sa
I fee l li k eI 've sent morethanenough ema i ls on th is su bject al ready, so r ather th annit  pi ckt i ny  things in yo u r  com me nt with  wh ich I d isa gre e,I'm 
j ust going  to sayth at  I  a gre e wit h  your cl os ing  s ent ence. 
~~~
h elper 
Tha nk  y o u f or your ge n e ralci vi lity  on  t he li sts. I'm  glad t hat you a reo n th ePM C.

--- ---
qwertyuio p9 24
This is n' t a  "majo r problemwith open source projec t s," it' s a  prob lemwith
thegov ernenc e m o del of  one s pecif ic  pr o j ect,a n da c on flict betw e e n t he AS Fandthe com pany holding a con t rol ling majority  on  the b oa rd. 
O t her  t h an" g overnance is ha rd and pol it i cs  sucks," I ' m n ot  sure w hat the 
"maj o r
 particularly_worried about_Cassandra's future. I
was sad_to see_Jonathan_Ellis leave_as_the chair person,_but hearing that_Nate
McCall was stepping into_that position put_a_lot of my concerns at ease.

I hope that the Datastax folks know that the_community_appreciates all_that
they_have_contributed to the open source_Cassandra project, even if the_ASF
doesn't.

[1]:
[https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8...](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72a884fa8f35cbed23135c8c771da06076d87a5a20ff5a7cd5d24001@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E)

[2]: [http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg0914...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09143.html)

[3]:_[http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1003...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10037.html)

[4]: [http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg1002...](http://www.mail-
archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg10020.html)

~~~
jjirsa
I feel like I've sent more than_enough_emails on this_subject already, so
rather than nit pick tiny things in_your comment with which I disagree,_I'm
just going to_say_that_I agree with your_closing sentence.

~~~
helper
Thank you for your general_civility on the lists. I'm glad_that you are on the
PMC.

------
qwertyuiop924
This isn't a_"major problem with open source projects,"_it's a problem with
the governence_model of_one specific project, and a_conflict between the_ASF
and the_company holding a_controlling majority on the board.

Other than_"governance is hard_and politics sucks," I'm not sure_what_the
"major