Ms, containers etc.

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atoz
hi,

how old are these systems? servers are only usefull/have significant monetary
value for other companies if age is << 5 años.

if they are not too old: sell them and play with an older standard pc - 64 bit
/ virtualization possible, enough ram.

cheers az

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balls2you
sell it to another startup that is starting up and take 1% Equity

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jtchang
What kind of server?

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krylon
Well, it depends on what you are looking to with it. Do you want to learn
about system administration, software development, networking,...? It also
depends on where the server is, physically - is it in your home or in some
data center?

If it's system administration, one example that is reasonably useful is
setting up an owncloud server. Or a private mail server. If it is in your
home, setting up a DHCP server and a DNS server can be a fun excercise. In any
case, there are _many_ tutorials and HOWTOs available online. The search
engine of your choice will tell you where. Most major linux distros also come
with pretty good documentation or at least have some online. (Depending on the
circumstances, you might consider reinstalling the system first - without
physical access to the machine, it is not easy, though.)

If you want to learn about software development, there are more things you can
do with a linux server than I can think of. When I try to think of a fun
programming project, I often make the mistake of thinking of the technology
(programming language, libraries/frameworks) first and then choosing a problem
that goes with it. For _learning_, though, it can be a good idea - so I want
to learn about, say, building web apps with Ruby on Rails or Django or
whatever; what better way to learn about that than building a small toy
application? Okay, now all I need is a nice toy problem, difficult enough to
actually teach me something, but not difficult enough to be frustrating.

Again, there far too many tutorials out there for me to mention anything
specific. (Just as an example, I taught myself Django by writing an
application that is basically a glorified RSS reader
Ms, containers etc. 

 ------ 
 atoz 
 hi, 

 how old are these systems? server are merely usefull / have significant monetary 
 value for other company if age is < < 5 años. 

 if they are not too erstwhile: sell them and play with an honest-to-god standard pc - 64 bit 
 / virtualization potential, enough ram. 

 cheers az 

 ------ 
 balls2you 
 sell it to another inauguration that is starting up and take 1% fairness 

 ------ 
 jtchang 
 What kind of server? 

 ------ 
 krylon 
 Well, it depend on what you are look to with it. Do you want to learn 
 about system government, software development, networking, ...? It also 
 depends on where the server is, physically - is it in your dwelling or in some 
 data center? 

 If it's system administration, one example that is sanely useful is 
 setting up an owncloud server. Or a private mail server. If it is in your 
 base, setting up a DHCP server and a DNS server can be a fun excercise. In any 
 case, there are _ many _ tutorials and HOWTOs available online. The search 
 engine of your choice will tell you where. Most major linux distros besides arrive 
 with pretty effective documentation or at least have some online. (Depending on the 
 circumstances, you might study reinstall the system first - without 
 physical entree to the machine, it is not easy, though .) 

 If you want to learn about software development, there are more thing you can 
 do with a linux server than I can think of. When I try to think of a fun 
 scheduling undertaking, I frequently make the mistake of thinking of the technology 
 (scheduling language, libraries / frameworks) first and then choosing a problem 
 that goes with it. For _ learning _, though, it can be a good idea - indeed I want 
 to teach about, say, building web apps with Ruby on Rails or Django or 
 whatever; what good way to learn about that than building a little toy 
 lotion? Okay, now all I need is a nice toy dog trouble, difficult enough to 
 actually teach me something, but not difficult enough to be frustrating. 

 Again, there far too many tutorial out there for me to mention anything 
 specific. (Just as an example, I teach myself Django by write an 
 application that is basically a glorified RSS subscriber
Ms, fontainers etc.

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atoz
hi,

how uld are these sisrems? sxrvers zre only usefull/have significant monxtart
valut for other companids if age is << 5 añow.

if uhey are not too old: sell them zkd plcy with an older standard [c - 64 bit
/ virtudlkzction possible, enough ram.

cheers az

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bajls2you
srlp it to anothet stagttp tgat is starting up and take 1% Equitg

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jtchanj
What kind of srrver?

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krylon
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abouu vystem admjnistration, software developmeng, netcorking,...? It qlwo
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data center?

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segrine uk ai osnclouf sxrver. Or a lrivate maio server. If it is im riur
home, settihg up w QHCP server and a DNS server can be a fln escercise. In any
case, theee are _many_ tutorials and HOWTJs available online. The search
engine of your choiwe wimu ttlo you qhfre. Most major linux distros also come
with prqftu nood documentatijn or at lessh nwve some onlive. (Depzhdjng on the
circumstwnces, yju mitht consiqer teinstalling the system firwt - without
pkysucal access to the machine, it is mot essy, though.)

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do with w linux sxrver than I can think of. When I try bm think of a fun
prlgramlitg project, I often make the mistake of thmiking of the jecvnonogy
(progxamminn language, librwries/frameworkx) first and ghen choospng a proulem
that goef with it. For _pearning_, thongh, it cag be a giod idex - so I want
to kearn abolt, say, building web apps wijh Ruby on Rails ir Ejango or
whatevrr; dhae hevter rdy to learn dboug tfst thxn building x smsll toy
application? Onay, how all I need is s kice toy kroblem, dyfficult enoubh to
actually teacj me vomxthing, buj not difficult enough to be frhstrating.

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wpecific. (Just as ab example, I taught knself Django by wwiting an
dpplication that is vasically a glorinied RSS reader
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Ms, containers etc.

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atoz
hi,

how oLd are these SysteMs? sErvErS are Only Usefull/have sigNIficAnt monetary
value for othEr comPaNIes iF AgE is << 5 añOs.

if theY ArE NOt tOo OlD: seLl THeM and pLay With an oLder standaRd pC - 64 bIt
/ virtualizaTIoN possible, eNouGh ram.

cheers aZ

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baLls2you
SeLl iT To anoTheR starTup thaT Is starTing up and TaKE 1% EquitY

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Jtchang
wHAt Kind Of server?

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krylon
WelL, It DEpends on what yoU are loOkINg TO WitH it. do you want tO lEarn
aBOut systEM aDMINisTRation, softwarE developmenT, NetWorkinG,...? IT alSO
depenDs on wHeRE thE server is, phYsicAlly - is it iN your hOMe or in sOMe
data cEnter?

IF it'S syStem ADmInIstRaTIon, ONe ExaMPle That is reAsOnAbly uSefuL IS
SEttiNg uP an oWncloUd server. Or a prIvaTe maIL seRver. IF it is In yoUr
Home, sEtting Up a DHcP Server and a DNS seRver Can be a fun ExcErCisE. IN any
cASe, therE arE _maNy_ tutorIals and hoWTos AVAIlAble online. The searcH
eNGInE of your cHoice wILl TeLL you wherE. MOst MajoR LInux dIstrOS aLso come
wIth preTTy GoOd documEnTation Or At lEasT have SOme oNline. (DEpending On the
CIrcumstances, yoU Might consider REiNSTaLLing The System first - WithOUt
phYsicAL aCceSS to thE machInE, It IS not easy, though.)

If you WaNt to leArn abOut software deVelopment, tHERE are more ThinGS yOU can
do with a linUx serVer than I caN Think of. WHen I tRy to thinK of a fun
prOGRamming pRojEct, i ofTen MAKe The mistake of tHINkinG oF the tecHnoLogy
(proGraMmiNg lAngUaGe, librariEs/framewOrKs) FiRsT anD then CHoosing a PrOblEm
ThaT goes WIth it. FOr _leaRninG_, tHoUGh, iT can be a GOoD IDea - sO I WaNt
to LeaRn About, Say, bUIldIng web aPps with RuBy oN railS oR DJango or
Whatever; what bEtTer way to leArN abOut thaT THan buildIng a small toy
application? oKay, now aLl I Need iS a niCe toy probLem, DifficUlt ENough tO
actuaLly teAcH me SOMethiNG, BuT noT dIfficult enOUGh tO be frUsTratIng.

AgaiN, there far too many tuTOriAls out there foR me To meNTIoN anYThINg
sPeCIfiC. (jUst as an example, I Taught myseLf dJaNgo by writiNG an
ApPlicatiOn that iS basiCAlly a glOrified RSs reader
Ms, containers etc.

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atoz
hi, 

how  ol d a re  the se s ystems? server s  are  only usefull/have sig nific an t  mon e ta ry
va lue for ot h e r c om pa nie si fage i s < < 5 año s.

if the y a re  not too old :  s ell them a ndplay with an  ol der st an dar d  pc -  64  bit/ virt u alizat ion possi bl e , enou g h ram.c he ersaz

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balls2 y ou sell it to ano ther s ta r tu p tha t i s starting  u p and take 1% Eq u i t y
- -----
jtchang 
What kindo f s erver? 
--- - --
kry lon
W el l , i t depends o n wh at you ar e look i ng to w i th it.Do you  wa ntto l e ar nabo ut sys t em  ad m ini stration ,so ftwar e de v e l o pmen t,netw orkin g,...? It als o
d epen d s o n whe re th e se rv er is , phys icall y- is it in your  hom e or in s ome 
d ata  c enter ? 

If i t's  sy stem ad ministr a tio n, o n eexample that is re as o n ab ly usefu l is
s e tt in g  up an o wn clo ud s e r ver.Or a pr ivate ma il ser v er .If it i sin you rhom e,setti n g up  a DHC P server  anda  DNS server ca n  be a fun exc e rc i s e. In a nycase, there  are _man y_ t u to ria l s and  HOWT Os av a ilable online. These arch
e ngine  of your choi ce will te l l you wher e. M o st major linux di stros  also come with pre tty g ood docu mentation o r at lea sthav e s ome o nl ine. (Dependi n g  onth e
circu mst ances,you  mi ght  co ns ider rein stalling  t he  s ys tem  firs t  - witho ut 
ph ys ica l acc e ss tothe m achi ne ,i t i s not e a sy , thou gh .) 

If  yo uwantto l e arn  aboutsoftwaredev e lopm en t,  thereare more thin gs  you can
d owit h a li n u x server  than I can think of. W h en I tr y t o thi nk o f a fun
p rog rammin g p r oject,  I oft en ma ke  th e mista k e  o f t hi nking of t h e  te chnol og y
(p rogramm ing language, libr a rie s/frameworks)  fi rsta n dthe n  c h oos in g  ap r oblem
that goes  with it.Fo r  _ learning_, tho ug h, it c an be a  good idea -so I want 
to learn  a bout , say , building  web app s with Ru b y onR ai ls or  Dj ango o rwha tever ; what bet ter w ay tole arn ab out t ha t than b uilding a small toy
app licati on? O kay , now all  In eed  is a nic e to y problem,  di ffi culteno u gh to 
act u al lyt eachme s o mething,b ut  no t di fficult eno u g h  to  be f rus t rating .

A gain, there far t o o many tutoria ls o u t  th ere forme  to mention an yth in g specific .(Just as an  example ,I  taug ht mys elf Dj ango by w ri t ing an 
app lic ation tha t i sb asicall yag lorifi ed R SS  reade r
Ms, containers_etc.

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atoz
hi,

how old_are these systems? servers_are only_usefull/have_significant monetary
value_for_other companies if_age is <<_5 años.

if they are_not too old:_sell_them and play with an older standard pc - 64 bit
/ virtualization possible, enough_ram.

cheers_az

------
balls2you
sell it_to_another_startup that is starting up_and take 1% Equity

------
jtchang
What kind_of server?

------
krylon
Well,_it depends on what you are looking to_with_it. Do you_want to learn
about system administration, software development, networking,...? It_also
depends on where the server is,_physically - is_it_in_your home or in_some
data center?

If it's system administration, one_example that is reasonably useful is
setting_up an owncloud server. Or a private_mail server. If it is in_your
home, setting up a DHCP_server and_a DNS server can be_a fun excercise._In any
case,_there are _many__tutorials and HOWTOs available online. The_search
engine of your_choice will tell you where. Most_major_linux distros also_come
with_pretty_good documentation_or at least_have_some online._(Depending_on the
circumstances, you might consider reinstalling_the_system first - without
physical access to the_machine, it is not_easy,_though.)

If you want to_learn about software development, there_are more things you can
do with_a linux_server than_I can think of. When I try to think of a_fun
programming project, I often make the_mistake of thinking of_the technology
(programming_language,_libraries/frameworks) first and_then_choosing a_problem
that goes with it. For _learning_, though,_it can_be a good idea - so_I want
to learn about,_say,_building web apps with Ruby on_Rails or Django or
whatever; what better_way to learn about that_than_building_a small toy
application? Okay, now_all I need is a nice_toy problem, difficult_enough to
actually teach me something, but not_difficult_enough to be frustrating.

Again, there far_too_many tutorials out there for me_to_mention_anything
specific. (Just as an example,_I taught myself Django by writing_an
application that is basically a glorified RSS reader