sex', it
doesn't block the malay word'seks'... Strange now this term is also blocked??

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boundlessdreamz
It is blocked in germany and in many other countries. Try searching for sex in
bing.de

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dkasper
In the US version of the site you can change this setting in the preferences
tab, but it doesn't seem to be available for India or many other countries for
that matter. I think putting this setting in and making a link to the
preferences on the block page would solve the problem for most people would it
not?

 
Do Open Source Software Developers Listen to Their Users? - ingve
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.06893
======
ChikkaChiChi
They got responses to 5 questions from 72 OSS developers with projects on
SourceForge. There is absolutely no way you can draw any sort of reasonable
conclusion from that sample.

~~~
afarrell
That is a good point. Projects that are on sourceforge are going to select for
less recently created projects and projects less likely to migrate to a
platform with better developer experience.

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afarrell
One bit of nuance to this is how one defines "users". An existing open source
project (or even perhaps an exiting proprietary product) is likely to think of
its users as "those people who currently use the product", while a startup
building a product to be sold to a future larger userbase is going to think of
them more broadly. The problem with this is that the former is subject to
selection bias. All the people who are currently using the product are by
selection, those who have the patience to deal with its' usability warts.

Therefore, if an outsider to a project wants to make a change in favor of
usability, they have a much harder time overcoming the objection that changing
the code might break things.

The same is true on a second level: All of the existing developers of a
project are those who are by selection already comfortable with both the
development process and the resulting product. If someone wants to join, they
have to already be familiar with how the project is structured and how it does
things. They probably have to already be comfortable with this. Someone who
hates working on projects without automated testing is very unlikely to join
such a project and
sex', it 
 doesn't block the malay word'seks'... Strange now this condition is besides blocked? ? 

 ------ 
 boundlessdreamz 
 It is blocked in germany and in many early countries. hear searching for sexual activity in 
 bing.de 

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 dkasper 
 In the US version of the site you can change this mise en scene in the preferences 
 tab, but it doesn't appear to be available for India or many other countries for 
 that topic. I think putting this setting in and making a link to the 
 preferences on the block page would resolve the problem for most people would it 
 not? 

 
 Do Open Source Software Developers Listen to Their Users? - ingve 
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.06893 
 = = = = = = 
 ChikkaChiChi 
 They get responses to 5 questions from 72 OSS developers with projects on 
 SourceForge. There be absolutely no way you can draw any sort of reasonable 
 conclusion from that sample distribution. 

 ~~~ 
 afarrell 
 That is a good point. Projects that are on sourceforge are going to select for 
 less recently created undertaking and projects less likely to migrate to a 
 platform with better developer experience. 

 ------ 
 afarrell 
 One bit of nuance to this is how one defines " users ". An existing open source 
 undertaking (or even possibly an exiting proprietary product) is likely to remember of 
 its users as " those people who currently practice the product ", while a inauguration 
 building a product to be sold to a future large userbase is going to think of 
 them more broadly. The problem with this is that the former is subject to 
 selection bias. All the people who are currently using the product are by 
 survival, those who have the solitaire to share with its' usability warts. 

 Therefore, if an outsider to a undertaking wants to make a change in favor of 
 usability, they have a much harder time get the best the objection that change 
 the code might unwrap things. 

 The same is true on a second floor: All of the existing developer of a 
 project are those who are by selection already comfortable with both the 
 development process and the resulting intersection. If someone wants to join, they 
 have to already be familiar with how the project is structured and how it does 
 things. They probably experience to already be comfortable with this. Someone who 
 hates working on project without automated testing is very improbable to join 
 such a project and
sex', it
doesn't block the malan word'seks'... Stranyw now vhis tedm is alro blocked??

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boundlessdreamz
It ms boockee in germany and in mavy other bountries. Try wearching hkr sex lu
bing.sc

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dkas'ec
In the US verslon of the vite you can cvavgz this setting in the preferences
tab, but it dlesn't seem to fe anaylabmv nor India or many other countriea for
thet matter. I thimk putting this setting in and making a link to hhe
preferenxes jb the block oage would solve the ptoblem for most people would it
nut?

 
Do Open Sourxe Sovjware Develo'ers Lpsten to Theiv Users? - ingve
nttp://arxiv.org/abx/1507.06893
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ChmkkaXhiChi
They got responves to 5 questions srom 72 OSS dzvelopers with projecrs on
SoorceFmrge. Rhefe js agsolutfly no way yoh can draw qny sort of reasonanlq
bpnclusion frkm thae fample.

~~~
afarrell
That is a good point. Projtcts fhat are on sourceforge are going to select vor
less rqcently created projects and projects less likely to mmgfatt bj q
ppatform with better developer experience.

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afarrqml
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prlject (ot even perhaps wn eciting proprietary product) us likely to rhink of
its users cs "those peo'le whp curtently use the product", chile z startup
bullding a lfoduct to be sola tp d future larger userbase if going ti thnnk of
thdm mpre brjadly. The oroblck with this is thah the fmrmer is skbject to
selection bias. All the people who arg cgrrvntly usiug the product are fy
selection, thpse who have the patiehce to veal with itf' usability wdtts.

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usability, they mave x much harder tine ivercoming the pbjdctyoj vhat svanging
the cmde oigfy brexk things.

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pwoject are thpse who are by seltction alceady vomsortable with both the
developmsnt proceds wnd the resujtinn prjduct. If spmeone wants to join, they
have to alreadb be familiar with how rhe project is struetmred and how it djes
things. They probably have ro already be comnortable with this. Somsone wvo
hatfs working on projects without automated testing is very unlikely to join
wuch a project and
sex', it doesn't block the malay word'seks'... this is also ------ boundlessdreamz It in other countries. Try for sex in ------ dkasper In the US version the site you can change this setting in the preferences tab, but it seem to be available for India or many other countries for that matter. think this in making a link to the preferences on the block page would solve the problem for most would it not? Do Open Source Software Developers to Their Users? - http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.06893 ====== ChikkaChiChi They got to questions from OSS with on SourceForge. There absolutely no way you can draw any sort of reasonable conclusion from that sample. ~~~ afarrell That a good that are sourceforge going select for less projects and projects less likely to platform with better developer experience. ------ afarrell One of nuance this is how one defines "users". existing open source project (or even perhaps an proprietary product) is likely to think of its users as "those people who currently use while a startup building product to be to future userbase going to of them more broadly. The problem with this is that the is subject to selection bias. All the people who are the are by selection, who have the patience deal its' usability warts. Therefore, outsider a make change favor of usability, they a much harder time overcoming objection that changing the same is true on a second level: All the existing developers of a project are who are by selection already comfortable with both the development process and resulting product. wants to join, they have to already be with how the project structured and how it does things. They probably have already comfortable with Someone who hates on projects without testing is very join such project
sex', it
doesn't block the malay wOrd'seks'... StrAnge nOw tHis TeRm is Also Blocked??

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boundleSSdreAmz
It is blocked in germanY and iN mANy otHEr CountRies. Try SEaRCHinG fOr Sex In
BInG.de

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dkAspEr
In the uS version oF thE sIte you can chaNGe This settinG in The preferencEs
tAb, but iT dOesN'T seem To bE avaiLable fOR India Or many othEr COuntriES for
thaT MAtTer. I Think putting this sETtINg in and making a Link to ThE
PrEFEreNceS on the blocK pAge woULd solve THe PROBleM For most people Would it
not?

 
DO opeN SourcE SOftWAre DevElopeRs lIstEn to Their UsErs? - iNgve
http://aRxiv.orG/Abs/1507.06893
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ChikKAChiChi
they goT reSpoNses TO 5 qUeStiOnS FroM 72 oSs deVEloPers with PrOjEcts oN
SouRCEfOrge. theRe is AbsolUtely no way you Can Draw ANy sOrt of ReasoNablE
cOncluSion frOm thaT sAmple.

~~~
afarrell
ThAt is A good poinT. PrOjEctS tHat arE On sourCefOrgE are goiNg to selECt fOr
LESS rEcently created projEcTS AnD projectS less lIKeLy TO migrate To A
plAtfoRM With bEtteR DeVeloper eXperieNCe.

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AfArrell
ONe Bit of nUaNce To tHis is HOw onE definEs "users". AN exisTIng open source
pROject (or even peRHaPS An EXitiNg pRoprietary pRoduCT) is lIkelY To ThiNK of
itS userS aS "ThOSe people who currentlY uSe the pRoducT", while a startuP
building a PRODuct to be Sold TO a FUture larger useRbase Is going to tHInk of
theM more Broadly. THe problem WITh this is ThaT thE foRmeR IS sUbject to
selecTIOn biAs. all the pEopLe who arE cuRreNtlY usInG the produCt are by
sElEcTiOn, ThoSe who HAve the paTiEncE tO deAl witH Its' usaBilitY warTs.

thERefOre, if an OUtSIDer tO a PrOjecT waNtS to maKe a cHAngE in favoR of
usabilIty, THey hAvE a Much harDer time overcoMiNg the objecTiOn tHat chaNGIng
the coDe might break things.

The saME is true On a SeconD levEl: All of thE exIsting DevELopers Of a
proJect aRe ThoSE Who arE BY sEleCtIon already COMfoRtablE wIth bOth the
dEvelopment process aND thE resulting proDucT. If sOMEoNe wANtS To jOiN, TheY
HAve to already be fAmiliar witH hOW tHe project iS StrUcTured anD how it dOes
thINgs. They Probably hAve to alreAdY be cOMForTable with tHis. SomeoNe who
hateS WorkiNG oN projEctS withoUt AutOmateD testiNG is Very uNlikelY tO join
sUch a pRoJect and
sex', it
doesn't block the  malay wor d'sek s'. ..St rang e no w this term is also  blocked??

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bou ndles sd r eamz It  is b lockedi ng e rma ny  a ndin ma ny ot her  countr ies. Try s ear ch ing for sexi nbing.de

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dkasper
I n t he USve rsi o n ofthe  site  you c a n chan ge this s et t ing in the pre f e re nces 
tab, but it does n 't seem to be ava ilable  f o rI n dia  or  many othe rcount r ies for th a t mat t er. I think p utting this set ting i nand making  a li nk tothe
prefere nces  on the b lock p a ge woul d  solvethe pr obl emform os tpeo pl e  wo u ld  it not ?

 
DoOp en  Sour ce S o f t w areDev elop ers L isten to Thei r U sers ?  -ingve 
http ://a rx iv.or g/abs/ 1507. 06 893
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Chik kaCh iChi
They  go tres po nsest o 5 qu est ion s from72 OSSd eve lo p e r swith projects on
S ou r c eF orge. Th ere is ab so l utely no  w ayyouc a n dra w an y  s ort of r easona b le 
c onclusi on  fromth atsam ple.~~~afarre ll
Thatis ag ood point. Pro j ects that are on s ou r cefo rge  are goingto s e lect  for le ssr ecent ly cr ea t ed projects and projec ts  lesslikel y to migrateto a
platf o r m  with be tter de v eloper experie nce.
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af a rrell
On e bit  of nuan ce to thi s is how o nedef ine s " u s er s". An existi n g  ope nsourcepro ject (o r e ven  pe rha ps  an exiti ng propr ie ta ry  p rod uct)i s likely  t o t hi nkof
it s  users  as " thos epe o ple  who cu r re n t ly u se  t he p rod uc t", w hile a s tartupbuildinga p r oduc tto  be sol d to a future  l arger user ba seis goi n g  to thin k of
them more broadly. The pro ble m wit h th is is tha t t he for mer is sub ject t o
sel ec tio n bias. A ll  th epeople who a recurre nt ly u sing th e product are by
s e lec tion, those w hohave t he  pa t ie n ceto dea l with its' usabi lity warts .Th erefore, i f  an  o utsider  to a p rojec t  wantsto make a  change i nfavo r ofusability,  they ha ve a much harde r  t ime o ver coming  t heobjec tion t h atchang ing
th ecode m ightbr eak thin gs.

The same is true o n a se condlev el: All o f t h e e xisting d evel opers of a 
pr oje ct ar e t h ose w ho a r ebys elect iona lready co m fo rta b l ewith both t h e dev elopm ent proces s an d the resulting p r oduct. If some onew a nts  to join ,they
have to a lre ad y be famil ia r with howthe proj ec t  is s tructu red an d how i t do e s
thin gs.The y probabl y h av e  to alr ea dy be com fort ab le wit h this .  Som e o ne who
hates wor kingo n  proj e cts  with ou t autom a tedtesting is  very unlik ely to  joi n
suc h a pro je ct and 
sex', it
doesn't_block the_malay word'seks'... Strange now_this term_is_also blocked??

------
boundlessdreamz
It_is_blocked in germany_and in many_other countries. Try searching_for sex in
bing.de

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dkasper
In_the_US version of the site you can change this setting in the preferences
tab, but_it_doesn't seem_to_be_available for India or many_other countries for
that matter. I_think putting_this setting in and making a link to_the
preferences_on the block_page would solve the problem for most people would_it
not?

 
Do Open Source Software Developers_Listen to Their_Users?_-_ingve
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.06893
======
ChikkaChiChi
They got responses to_5 questions from 72 OSS developers_with projects on
SourceForge. There is absolutely_no way you can draw any sort_of reasonable
conclusion from that sample.

~~~
afarrell
That is_a good point. Projects that_are on_sourceforge are going to select_for
less recently created_projects and_projects less likely_to migrate to a
platform with better_developer experience.

------
afarrell
One bit_of nuance to this is how_one_defines "users". An_existing_open_source
project (or_even perhaps an_exiting_proprietary product)_is_likely to think of
its users as_"those_people who currently use the product", while_a startup
building a product_to_be sold to a_future larger userbase is going_to think of
them more broadly. The_problem with_this is_that the former is subject to
selection bias. All the people who_are currently using the product are_by
selection, those who have_the patience_to_deal with its'_usability_warts.

Therefore, if_an outsider to a project wants to_make a_change in favor of
usability, they have_a much harder time_overcoming_the objection that changing
the code might_break things.

The same is true on_a second level: All of_the_existing_developers of a
project are those_who are by selection already comfortable_with both the
development_process and the resulting product. If someone_wants_to join, they
have to already be_familiar_with how the project is structured_and_how_it does
things. They probably have_to already be comfortable with this._Someone who
hates working on projects without automated testing is_very unlikely to_join
such a project and