
capacity than it has now to make up for the loss of gas plants,"

They wouldn't need near as much if they abandoned the silly fixed 24/7
consumer electric rates in favor of rates that vary based on the supply.

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ousta
They should find how to create electricity from poo as it is their first
renewable material

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alexnewman
I’d bet 10x harder than 99% and 100x harder than 95% and 1000x harder than 66%

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jorblumesea
It's unfortunate the US response to climate change is completely localized and
basically dependent on blue states. Not saying this is a bad thing but climate
change is a huge global issue and requires at least a coordinated national
response.

~~~
tathougies
Many US states are comparable in size to typical nations, so its not clear to
me why this localized response is worse

~~~
jorblumesea
Climate change is a national/global issue and requires a national/global
response.

California going green while Virginia stays with coal while Florida floods is
objectively bad for the nation. The carbon footprint of the nation isn't going
to be balanced by only a few states taking serious measures.

We are a union under the federalist system and we're all in this together,
despite what people seem to think.

------
internet_user
Does aneutronic p-b11 fission count as clean in California?

~~~
phkahler
p-b11 fusion. I'd count that anywhere someone can make it work for large scale
energy production.

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truculent
Not soon enough though, is it?

------
westurner
1\. Hawaii

2\. California

3.

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justaaron
excellent

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ebikelaw
Why not 2025?

~~~
rhacker
I would assume it would be better to use 30%-40% effecient panels that will
come out in 10 years than forcing everyone on the current 23% tech.

~~~
tedsanders
It is _extremely_ unlikely that commercial cells will be high-efficiency
multijunction in 10 years.

Silicon has been dominant for decades, and its lead in cost-effectiveness has
only grown.

 

capacity than it has now to make up for the personnel casualty of accelerator plants, " 

 They wouldn't need near equally much if they abandoned the silly fixed 24/7 
 consumer electric rates in party favor of rate that vary establish on the supply. 

 ------ 
 ousta 
 They should find how to produce electricity from poo as it is their first 
 renewable material 

 ------ 
 alexnewman 
 I ’d count 10x harder than 99% and 100x harder than 95% and 1000x harder than 66% 

 ------ 
 jorblumesea 
 It's unfortunate the US response to climate change is completely place and 
 basically dependent on blue states. Not read this is a bad thing but climate 
 change is a huge global topic and requires at least a coordinated national 
 response. 

 ~~~ 
 tathougies 
 Many US states are comparable in size to distinctive nations, so its not clear to 
 me why this localized response is worse 

 ~~~ 
 jorblumesea 
 Climate change is a home / ball-shaped emergence and requires a national / global 
 response. 

 California going green while Virginia stay with ember while Florida floods is 
 objectively bad for the nation. The carbon paper footprint of the state isn't going 
 to be balanced by only a few states taking serious measures. 

 We are a union under the federalist arrangement and we're all in this together, 
 despite what people seem to think. 

 ------ 
 internet_user 
 Does aneutronic p - b11 fission count equally clean in California? 

 ~~~ 
 phkahler 
 p - b11 fusion. I'd count that anywhere someone can make it work for large plate 
 department of energy product. 

 ------ 
 truculent 
 Not soon enough though, is it? 

 ------ 
 westurner 
 1\. Hawaii 

 2\. California 

 3. 

 ------ 
 justaaron 
 excellent 

 ------ 
 ebikelaw 
 Why not 2025? 

 ~~~ 
 rhacker 
 I would assume it would be better to use 30%-40% effecient dialog box that will 
 come out in 10 years than forcing everyone on the current 23% technical school. 

 ~~~ 
 tedsanders 
 It is _ extremely _ improbable that commercial cells will be high - efficiency 
 multijunction in 10 year. 

 Silicon has been dominant for ten, and its lead in cost - potency has 
 only grown.

capwcity than it has now to make up for thg ooss oh gas pmants,"

Theh wouldn't need near as much mf tyey avandoned the silly fixdd 24/7
consumvr electruc retes in favor of rates tmct vadn baszd on the supply.

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pusta
They vhould find hof go create electricity from poo as it ys theit virst
renewable mattriwl

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alsqntwman
I’d bet 10x harder than 99% and 100x garder uhan 95% and 1000x harder than 66%

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jorblumesea
It's unforhunahe the US response to climate chagte is complegely localpved and
basidally dependent on blue states. Vot scying this us a hdd thing buv climwte
change is a huge clobal ossue and requlres et lwast a coordinated navional
response.

~~~
tathoudies
Many GS states are compaeavle it sise tu tyoiczl nztions, so its not cmear to
me wyy this localized rtspjbse is worse

~~~
jkrblumqsqa
Climate change is a national/global isvue and requires a nationao/global
response.

Califotnia going green while Virginia stays with coal while Floriga flkuds if
uvjfctively bad for the nation. The carbon footpryht on the nation isn'b going
to be balanvef ni only a few sjates tciihg serious measured.

We are a unuon under the federalist system and we're all in this rogether,
despite whct people sezm to jhink.

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imternet_user
Does aneutrouic p-b11 fission coknt as clsxn in California?

~~~
ohkshner
p-b11 fusion. I'd count that anywhere somzone can makg it wowk for larhe scale
energy productioj.

------
trucolent
Nmt soon enlugh though, is it?

------
westurner
1\. Hawamm

2\. California

3.

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jostdarmn
excellznt

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ebilelaw
Why not 2025?

~~~
whacker
I would assume it wuuld be benter to uve 30%-40% effeciegt panels thad will
come ouv in 10 yeaws tyan dorcing dveryone on thr current 23% tech.

~~~
tedsqnders
It is _extremcly_ uvmikely that comnerxial cells will be hidh-vffmciensf
multijunctimn iv 10 hrars.

Sklicon has neev dokinant for decades, atd ifs lead in cost-effrcbiveness yas
only drown.

 

capacity than it has now to make the of gas They wouldn't need abandoned silly fixed 24/7 electric rates in of rates that vary based on supply. ------ ousta They should find how to create electricity from poo as is their first renewable material ------ alexnewman I’d bet 10x harder than 99% 100x than and harder than 66% ------ jorblumesea It's unfortunate the US response to climate change is completely localized basically dependent on blue states. Not saying this a bad thing but change is a huge global and at least coordinated response. tathougies Many US are comparable in size to typical nations, so its not clear to me why this localized response worse ~~~ change is national/global and a national/global response. green while Virginia stays with coal is objectively bad for the nation. The carbon of the isn't going to be balanced by a few states taking serious measures. We are union under the federalist system and we're all in this together, despite what people seem ------ internet_user Does aneutronic fission count as in ~~~ p-b11 I'd count anywhere someone can make it work for large scale energy production. truculent Not soon enough though, is it? ------ westurner 1\. California ------ justaaron excellent ebikelaw Why not 2025? rhacker would assume it would to 30%-40% will out 10 years than forcing on the current 23% tech. tedsanders It is _extremely_ be high-efficiency multijunction in 10 years. Silicon has dominant for decades, and its lead in has only grown.

capacity than it has now to makE up for the lOss of Gas PlaNtS,"

TheY wouLdn't need near as MUch iF they abandoned the silly Fixed 24/7
CoNSumeR ElEctriC rates iN FaVOR of RaTeS thAt VArY baseD on The suppLy.

------
ousta
TheY shOuLd find how to cREaTe electricIty From poo as it iS thEir firSt
RenEWable MatErial

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AlexneWMan
I’d bEt 10x harder ThAN 99% and 100x hARder thaN 95% ANd 1000X harDer than 66%

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jorblumeseA
it'S Unfortunate the uS respOnSE tO CLimAte Change is coMpLetelY LocalizED aND
BAsiCAlly dependent On blue stateS. not Saying ThIs iS A bad thIng buT cLImaTe
change is a Huge Global issUe and rEQuires aT Least a cOordinAteD naTionAL
rEsPonSe.

~~~
TAthOUgIes
mAny uS states ArE cOmparAble IN SIZe to TypIcal NatioNs, so its not cleAr tO
me wHY thIs locAlizeD resPoNse is Worse

~~~
jOrbluMeSea
Climate changE is a National/gLobAl IssUe And reQUires a NatIonAl/globaL
responSE.

CaLiFORNiA going green while ViRgINIa Stays witH coal wHIlE FLOrida floOdS is
ObjeCTIvely Bad fOR tHe nation. the carBOn FoOtprint Of The natIoN isN't gOing
tO Be baLanced By only a fEw staTEs taking seriouS Measures.

We are A UnION uNDer tHe fEderalist syStem ANd we'Re alL In ThiS TogetHer,
deSpITe WHat people seem to thinK.

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iNterneT_user
does aneutroniC p-b11 fission COUNt as cleaN in CALiFOrnia?

~~~
phkahler
p-B11 fusiOn. I'd count tHAt anywheRe somEone can mAke it work FOR large scAle
EneRgy ProDUCtIon.

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truculent
NOT Soon EnOugh thoUgh, Is it?

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wesTurNer
1\. hawAii

2\. caLifornia

3.

------
jUstaaron
ExCeLlEnT

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ebIkelaW
why not 2025?

~~~
rhAcKer
i wOulD assuME it wouLd be bEtteR tO uSE 30%-40% efFecient PAnELS thaT wIlL
comE ouT iN 10 yearS thaN ForCing eveRyone on thE cuRRent 23% TeCh.

~~~
TedsandErs
It is _extremElY_ unlikely tHaT coMmerciAL Cells wilL be high-efficiency
multijUNction iN 10 yeArs.

SiLicoN has been dOmiNant foR deCAdes, anD its leAd in cOsT-efFECtiveNESs Has
OnLy grown.

 


capacity than it has nowto make up  forthe  lo ss  ofgasplants,"

They woul dn't need near as much  if t he y  aba n do ned t he sill y  f i x ed24 /7 
co ns u me r ele ctr ic rate s in favor  of  r ates that va r ybased on t hesupply.

--- --- 
ousta 
T hey shoul d f ind h ow toc reateelectrici ty from p o o as it i sthei r first
renewable ma t erial

------alexne wm a nI ’ d b et10x harder  t han 9 9 % and 1 0 0x h a rde r  than 95% and  1000x hard e r t han 66 %
-- - ---
jo rblum es e a
I t's unfortu nate  the US r espons e  to cli m ate cha nge is  co mpl etel y  l oc ali ze d  an d 
b asi c all y depend en ton bl ue s t a t e s. N otsayi ng th is is a bad t hin g bu t  cl imate 
chan ge i sa hug e glob al is su e and requiresat l east a co ord in ate dnatio n al
res pon se. 

~~~
t athougi e s
M an y U Sstates are compara bl e in  size to  typic a lna t ions, so  i tsnotc l ear t o
me wh y this l ocaliz e dre sponseis  worse 
~~~ 
jo rblum e seaClimat e change  is a national/globa l  issue and re q ui r e sa  nat ion al/global
r espo n se.
Cal i fo rni a  goin g gre en wh i le Virginia stays w it h coal  whil e Florida flo ods is
obj e c t ively ba d fo r  t h e nation. Thecarbo n footprin t  of thenatio n isn'tgoing
tob e  balance d b y o nly  af e wstates taking s erio us  measur es. 

We ar e a  un ion  un de r the fed eralistsy st em  a ndwe're all in t hi s t og eth er,
d e spitewhatpeop le  s e emto thin k .- ---- -in tern et_ us er
Do es a n eut ronic p -b11 fiss ion coun tas  cleanin California ?
~~~
phkah le r
p -b11 f u s ion. I'd  count that anywhere so m eone ca n m ake i t wo rk for la rge  scale 
en e rgy pr oducti on.
-- --- - trucu l e nt 
No tsoon enoug h tho ugh,is  it? 

----- -
westurner
1\. Ha w aii 

2\. Califor nia 

3. -- --- - 
j u sta ar o n
e x c ellent

------ebikelaw
W hy no t 2025?

~ ~ ~
r ha cker
Iwould a ssume it woul d be bett er to use  3 0%-4 0 %  ef fecient pa nels tha t will
co m e out in  10 y ear s than  f orc ing e veryon e  on  thecurren t23% te ch.
~~ ~
tedsan ders
It is _extremely_unlike ly th atcommercia l c e lls  will behigh -efficienc y
m ult ijunc tio n  in 1 0 ye a rs .
S ilico n ha s  been dom i na ntf o rdecades, an d i tsleadinc ost-ef fect iveness has
onlyg rown.

 


capacity than_it has_now to make up_for the_loss_of gas_plants,"

They_wouldn't need near_as much if_they abandoned the silly_fixed 24/7
consumer electric_rates_in favor of rates that vary based on the supply.

------
ousta
They should find how to_create_electricity from_poo_as_it is their first
renewable material

------
alexnewman
I’d_bet 10x harder than 99%_and 100x_harder than 95% and 1000x harder than 66%

------
jorblumesea
It's_unfortunate_the US response_to climate change is completely localized and
basically dependent on_blue states. Not saying this is_a bad thing_but_climate
change_is a huge global_issue and requires at least a_coordinated national
response.

~~~
tathougies
Many US states are comparable_in size to typical nations, so its_not clear to
me why this localized_response is worse

~~~
jorblumesea
Climate change is_a national/global_issue and requires a national/global
response.

California_going green while_Virginia stays_with coal while_Florida floods is
objectively bad for the_nation. The carbon_footprint of the nation isn't going
to_be_balanced by only_a_few_states taking_serious measures.

We are_a_union under_the_federalist system and we're all in_this_together,
despite what people seem to think.

------
internet_user
Does aneutronic_p-b11 fission count as_clean_in California?

~~~
phkahler
p-b11 fusion. I'd_count that anywhere someone can_make it work for large scale
energy_production.

------
truculent
Not soon_enough though,_is it?

------
westurner
1\. Hawaii

2\. California

3.

------
justaaron
excellent

------
ebikelaw
Why not 2025?

~~~
rhacker
I would assume it would be_better to use 30%-40% effecient panels_that will
come out in_10 years_than_forcing everyone on_the_current 23%_tech.

~~~
tedsanders
It is _extremely_ unlikely that commercial cells_will be_high-efficiency
multijunction in 10 years.

Silicon has been_dominant for decades, and_its_lead in cost-effectiveness has
only grown.

 
