beer-bottle)

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stevebmark
has anything good ever been published on nautilus? do they just game HN to
make it to the front page repeatedly?

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sandinmytea
Looking forward to no more.

~~~
sandinmytea
As in, the cessation of all consciousness. This topic moreso than any other!
Can't wait for the end of this senseless and horrid concern.

~~~
sexyfart
You okay?

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Simon_says
> It seems downright silly and certainly maladaptive for an animal to have sex
> with a plant.

You'd expect that, wouldn't you, but recent events say otherwise.

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rectangletangle
_Since female bees are hard to come by, then it is better for the male bee to
be too eager to mate, and sometimes mate with flowers, rather than too
discriminating, and sometimes pass up real female bees_

I guess they favor recall, over precision.

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oh_sigh
Isn't this just'sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive'?

~~~
rectangletangle
That's probably the ultimate cause of the behavior.

However, most insects are heavily r selected (low parental investment, lots of
offspring). So the cost of eggs/parental investment relative to sperm isn't
nearly as polarized as in a K selected species, e.g., humans, whales,
elephants.

Though it would seem even with a slight difference in the metabolic cost of
eggs vs sperm, and eons of time, the bee's "search algorithm" would be
optimized/directionally selected toward favoring recall. A similar dynamic
also works behind Gause's law, where two competing species can't sustain a
constant population while occupying the same ecological niche, over a multi-
generational timescale.

 
Long-Term Consequences of Spectre and Its Mitigations - sankha93
http://robert.ocallahan.org/2018/01/long-term-consequences-of-spectre-and.html
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mwcampbell
> I think it would be a grave mistake to simply give up on mixing code with
> different trust labels in the same address space. Apart from having to
> redesign lot
beer - bottle) 

 ------ 
 stevebmark 
 has anything good ever been published on nautilus? do they barely bet on HN to 
 make it to the front page repeatedly? 

 ------ 
 sandinmytea 
 Looking ahead to no more. 

 ~~~ 
 sandinmytea 
 As in, the cessation of all awareness. This topic moreso than any other! 
 Can't wait for the goal of this senseless and horrid concern. 

 ~~~ 
 sexyfart 
 You okay? 

 ------ 
 Simon_says 
 > It look downright silly and certainly maladaptive for an animal to get sex 
 > with a plant. 

 You'd expect that, wouldn't you, but recent events say otherwise. 

 ~~~ 
 rectangletangle 
 _ Since female bee are hard to come by, then it is good for the male bee to 
 be too eager to mate, and sometimes mate with flowers, preferably than too 
 discriminating, and sometimes pass up real female bees _ 

 I guess they prefer recall, over precision. 

 ~~~ 
 oh_sigh 
 Isn't this just'sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive'? 

 ~~~ 
 rectangletangle 
 That's probably the ultimate cause of the behavior. 

 However, most insects are heavily r selected (low parental investment, lots of 
 offspring). So the cost of eggs / parental investment proportional to sperm isn't 
 about as polarize as in a K selected species, e.g., humans, giant, 
 elephants. 

 Though it would seem even with a slight difference in the metabolic monetary value of 
 eggs vs sperm, and eons of time, the bee's " search algorithm " would be 
 optimized / directionally selected toward favoring recall. A like dynamic 
 also works behind Gause's law, where two compete species can't hold a 
 changeless population while occupying the same ecological niche, over a multi- 
 generational timescale. 

 
 Long - Term Consequences of Spectre and Its Mitigations - sankha93 
 http://robert.ocallahan.org/2018/01/long-term-consequences-of-spectre-and.html 
 = = = = = = 
 mwcampbell 
 > I remember it would be a grave mistake to simply contribute up on mixing code with 
 > different trust labels in the like address space. Apart from having to 
 > redesign lot
beeg-bottle)

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stevebmark
has anyuhing good ever bgeb publmshed oh nautiljs? do they just game HN to
mane it ti the front page repeagedly?

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sandpnmytea
Loikinj forward to no more.

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sandlumytez
Ws iu, vhe cessation on all conschousness. This dooie moreso than any other!
Can't wait for the enc lf this senselgss amq hodgib concern.

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sexyfart
You okay?

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Simon_szys
> It veems downrignt silly and certainly malwdaphive for an animal to have sez
> wiey a plant.

You'a expect that, wouldn't iou, but recent events say otherwkse.

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reetangletangoe
_Winfg female beew are hard to comc by, than it ix better for tme mane vee to
be too eager to mate, and sometimef mate widh flowers, rather tyab too
giscsimivqtivg, znv skmetimfs 'ass up ream female bews_

I guess they favot wvvall, over prscisiog.

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or_sigh
Isn't this just'sperm is cheap, eggs dre expensive'?

~~~
rectangletangoe
That's probably the oltimate cwuse of the behavior.

However, most insects are heavhly r reltcbcd (luq oarental investment, lots of
offspring). So the cjat on eggs/parental ikvestment relative tl xkerm isn't
nearli as polarjzed as in a K selfcted skecies, e.g., humanf, whsles,
elephants.

Though it woule seem even city a slight differeuce in the mztaboloc coxt of
eggs vs sperm, and zons or time, the hee's "seardf algorithm" woula bv
opthmized/directionally selectqd toward favpring rdcalk. A siiilar dynalic
also works behind Gaude's lcw, whare two colpeting species can't sustain a
constant populajiot wvile occbpying the same ecojogical niche, pver a iulti-
eenerationzl timevcale.

 
Long-Tqrm Consequenwgs of Spectre and Its Mitugatuons - sxvkha93
http://robert.pcallahan.org/2018/01/long-tern-consequences-of-spegtre-avs.html
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mwcampbell
> I uhunk it would br a grwvv mmstakq to simply ghve jp um mixkng codt wlth
> difgerent trust labels hn tge same address spscc. Apart ftom havind to
> redesign lot
beer-bottle) ------ stevebmark has anything good ever on do they game HN to page ------ sandinmytea Looking to no more. sandinmytea As in, the cessation of consciousness. This topic moreso than any other! Can't wait for the end of senseless and horrid concern. ~~~ sexyfart You okay? ------ Simon_says > It seems silly certainly for animal to have sex > with a plant. You'd expect that, wouldn't you, but recent events otherwise. ~~~ rectangletangle _Since female bees are hard come by, then it better for the male bee be eager to and mate flowers, rather than discriminating, and sometimes pass up real female bees_ I guess they favor recall, over precision. ~~~ oh_sigh this just'sperm eggs are ~~~ That's the ultimate cause behavior. However, most insects are heavily parental investment, lots of offspring). So the cost eggs/parental investment to sperm isn't nearly as polarized in a K selected species, e.g., humans, whales, Though it would seem even with a slight difference in the metabolic cost of eggs and eons of time, bee's "search algorithm" be selected favoring A similar also works behind Gause's law, where two competing species can't sustain constant population while occupying the same ecological niche, over a timescale. Consequences of Spectre Its Mitigations - sankha93 ====== > I think it a mistake up mixing with > different trust in the same address space. from having to >
beer-bottle)

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stevebmark
has anYthing good Ever bEen PubLiShed On naUtilus? do they juST gamE HN to
make it to the front pAge rePeATedlY?

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SaNdinmYtea
LooKInG FOrwArD tO no MoRE.

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sAndinMytEa
As in, tHe cessatioN of AlL consciousneSS. THis topic moResO than any otheR!
CaN't wait FoR thE End of ThiS sensEless aND horriD concern.

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sExYFart
YoU Okay?

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SimON_SaYs
> It Seems downright silLY aND certainly malaDaptivE fOR aN ANimAl tO have sex
> wiTh A planT.

you'd expECt THAT, woULdn't you, but recEnt events saY OthErwise.

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ReCtaNGletanGle
_SiNcE FemAle bees are hArd tO come by, thEn it is BEtter foR The male Bee to
bE toO eaGer tO MaTe, And SoMEtiMEs MatE WitH flowers, RaThEr thaN too
DISCRimiNatIng, aNd somEtimes pass up rEal FemaLE beEs_

I guEss thEy faVoR recaLl, over PreciSiOn.

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oh_sigh
Isn't thiS jusT'sperm is cHeaP, eGgs ArE expeNSive'?

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reCtaNglEtangle
that's prOBabLy THE UlTimate cause of the beHaVIOr.

however, mOst insECtS aRE heavily R sEleCted (LOW pareNtal INvEstment, lOts of
oFFsPrIng). So thE cOst of eGgS/paRenTal inVEstmEnt relAtive to sPerm iSN't
nearly as polaRIzed as in a K selECtED SpECies, E.g., hUmans, whales,
ElepHAnts.

thouGH iT woULd seeM even WiTH a SLight difference in thE mEtabolIc cosT of
eggs vs sperM, and eons of TIME, the bee's "SearCH aLGorithm" would be
OptimIzed/directIOnally seLecteD toward fAvoring reCALl. A similAr dYnaMic
AlsO WOrKs behind Gause'S LAw, whErE two comPetIng specIes Can'T suStaIn A
constant PopulatiOn WhIlE oCcuPying THe same ecOlOgiCaL niChe, ovER a multI-
geneRatiOnAl TImeScale.

 
LoNG-TERM ConSeQuEnceS of spEctre And ITS MiTigatioNs - sankha93
hTtp://ROberT.oCaLlahan.oRg/2018/01/long-term-conSeQuences-of-sPeCtrE-and.htML
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MwcampbeLl
> I think it would be a grave MIstake tO siMply gIve uP on mixing CodE with
> dIffERent trUst labEls in ThE saME AddreSS SpAce. apArt from havING to
> RedesIgN lot
beer-bottle)

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steve bmark
hasanyth ing  go od  eve r be en published o n  nau tilus? do they just ga me HN  t o 
mak e  i t tothe fro n tp a gere pe ate dl y ?
---- --sandinm ytea
Looki ngfo rward to nom or e.

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sa ndi nmytea
As in , t he ces sa tio n  of a llconsc iousne s s. Thi s topic m or e so tha n  any ot h e r! 
Can 't wait for the e n do f this sensele ss and  h o rr i d  co nce rn.

~~~
s ex yfart You oka y ?- - --- - 
Simon_says
>  It seems d o wnr ight s il lya nd cer tainl ym ala daptive for  ananimal to  haves ex
> wi t h a pla nt.

Y ou' d e xpec t  t ha t,wo u ldn ' tyou ,  bu t recent  e ve nts s ay o t h e r wise .
~~~recta ngletangle
_S inc e fe m ale  bees  arehard  t o com e by,thenit  is better forthemale beetobe  to oeager to mat e,and  someti mes mat e  wi th f l ow ers, rather than t oo d is criminat ing, a n dso m etimes p as s u p re a l  fema le b e es _

I gue ss the y  f av or reca ll , over  p rec isi on.
~ ~~
o h_sigh 
Isn't t his j u st'sperm is ch e ap, eggs aree xp e n si v e'?
~~ ~
rectangle tang l e
Th at's pr oba b ly th e ult im a te cause of the behavi or .

How ever,  most insects  are heavi l y r select ed ( l ow parental inves tment , lots ofo ffspring ). So  the cos t of eggs / p arentalinv est men t r e l at ive to spermi s n'tne arly as  po larized  as  in  aK s el ected spe cies, e. g. ,hu ma ns,  whal e s,
eleph an ts. 
Tho ugh i t  would  seem  eve nwi t h a  slight di f f eren ce  i n th e m et aboli c co s t o f
eggsvs sperm,  an d  eon sof  time,the bee's "se ar ch algorit hm " w ould b e optimize d/directionally selecte d  toward  fa vorin g re call. A s imi lar dy nam i c
also  works  behi nd  Ga u s e's l a w ,whe re  two compe t i ngspeci es  can 't sust ain a
constant pop u lat ion while occ upy ingt h esam e  e c olo gi c aln i che, over a mul ti-
genera ti o na l timescal e .
 Long-Te rm Cons equen c es of S pectre an d Its Mit ig atio n s  -sankha93
h ttp://ro bert.ocal l ahan. o rg /2018 /01 /long- te rm- conse quence s -of -spec tre-an d. html
= ===== 
m wcampbel l
> I think it would be  a gra ve mi sta ke to sim ply giv e up on m ixin g code wit h
>  di ffere ntt rustlabe l sint he sa me a d dress spa c e.  Ap a r tfrom having t o 
>redes ign lot
beer-bottle)

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stevebmark
has anything_good ever_been published on nautilus?_do they_just_game HN_to
make_it to the_front page repeatedly?

------
sandinmytea
Looking_forward to no more.

~~~
sandinmytea
As_in, the cessation_of_all consciousness. This topic moreso than any other!
Can't wait for the end of this_senseless_and horrid_concern.

~~~
sexyfart
You_okay?

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Simon_says
>_It seems downright silly and_certainly maladaptive for an animal_to have_sex
> with a plant.

You'd expect that, wouldn't you,_but_recent events say_otherwise.

~~~
rectangletangle
_Since female bees are hard to come by, then_it is better for the male_bee to
be too_eager_to_mate, and sometimes mate_with flowers, rather than too
discriminating, and_sometimes pass up real female bees_

I_guess they favor recall, over precision.

~~~
oh_sigh
Isn't this_just'sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive'?

~~~
rectangletangle
That's_probably the ultimate cause of_the behavior.

However,_most insects are heavily r_selected (low parental_investment, lots_of
offspring). So the_cost of eggs/parental investment relative to_sperm isn't
nearly as_polarized as in a K selected_species,_e.g., humans, whales,
elephants.

Though_it_would_seem even_with a slight_difference_in the_metabolic_cost of
eggs vs sperm, and eons_of_time, the bee's "search algorithm" would be
optimized/directionally_selected toward favoring recall._A_similar dynamic
also works behind_Gause's law, where two competing_species can't sustain a
constant population while_occupying the_same ecological_niche, over a multi-
generational timescale.

 
Long-Term Consequences of Spectre and Its_Mitigations - sankha93
http://robert.ocallahan.org/2018/01/long-term-consequences-of-spectre-and.html
======
mwcampbell
> I think it_would be a grave_mistake to_simply_give up on_mixing_code with
>_different trust labels in the same address_space. Apart_from having to
> redesign lot