 you can get low marks in secondary school
and be fine. He won't be able to attend a decent university, ever. Correct me
if I'm wrong.

~~~
ef4
The same logic applies in the US. You won't be going to a good college if you
have bad high school grades.

But my advice was to consider eschewing academia entirely. I've worked with
too many well-paid, respected developers without degrees to take the value of
credentialing very seriously.

It's not a panacea, of course. It takes a lot of sustained work and learning
whether you do it in school or not. Some people just find it easier to learn
outside of formal schooling.

~~~
msutherl
I think it's better to make that decision when you're 18, not 16. Always best
to keep your options open because you don't know how you or the world will
change, even in the near future.

------
yuxt
Open a map, close your eyes and point randomly. Pack you backpack, buy tickets
and go there without any reservation. Spend at least 1 month away from home,
comfort and routine.

When you are back you will know exactly what to do.

~~~
discostrings
> Open a map, close your eyes and point randomly. Pack you backpack, buy
> tickets and go there without any reservation. Spend at least 1 month away
> from home, comfort and routine.

This sounds like an interesting and exciting life-changing plan and
everything, but I don't think it's particularly actionable advice for most
sixteen-year-olds in today's world, and I don't think it's likely to help with
the question at hand. The submitter isn't asking /what to do/; the submitter
is asking /how can I be more motivated in what I'm doing/!

I think better advice is to focus on how the things you're learning relate to
the things you like to do. So try to focus on how math can improve your
programming, research, and other interests. Also, keep in mind that you're
building a foundation--things are more interesting once you get to the stage
where you're building on top of it. Even if you decide not to use it in a few
years, it's a really nice thing to have that will give
you can get low marks in secondary school 
 and be all right. He won't be able to serve a adequate university, ever. compensate me 
 if I'm improper. 

 ~~~ 
 ef4 
 The same logic applies in the US. You won't be go to a adept college if you 
 have regretful eminent school grades. 

 But my advice was to regard eschewing academia entirely. I've work with 
 too many well - paid, respected developers without degrees to take the value of 
 credentialing very seriously. 

 It's not a panacea, of path. It takes a lot of sustained oeuvre and learning 
 whether you do it in school or not. Some people just detect it easier to learn 
 outside of formal schooling. 

 ~~~ 
 msutherl 
 I think it's good to make that decision when you're 18, not 16. Always best 
 to keep your choice open because you don't know how you or the world will 
 change, even in the near future. 

 ------ 
 yuxt 
 Open a map, close your eyes and point randomly. carry you backpack, buy tickets 
 and die there without any booking. Spend at least 1 month away from base, 
 comfort and routine. 

 When you are back you will know exactly what to serve. 

 ~~~ 
 discostrings 
 > Open a map, close your eyes and point randomly. Pack you backpack, bribe 
 > tickets and go there without any reservation. Spend at least 1 month away 
 > from home, comfort and act. 

 This fathom like an interesting and exciting life - changing plan and 
 everything, but I don't think it's peculiarly actionable advice for most 
 sixteen - year - olds in today's world, and I don't think it's likely to help with 
 the question at hand. The submitter isn't asking /what to do/; the submitter 
 is ask /how can I be more motivated in what I'm doing/! 

 I think dependable advice is to focus on how the thing you're learning relate to 
 the thing you like to suffice. So sample to focus on how math can better your 
 programming, inquiry, and other interests. Also, preserve in mind that you're 
 building a foundation -- things are more interesting once you get to the phase 
 where you're building on top of it. Even if you decide not to practice it in a few 
 years, it's a really nice thing to have that will give
 yok can get low marks in stcondary school
anb be fiie. He wkn't be acle to attend a decent univecsitt, evee. Correct me
if I'm wrone.

~~~
ef4
The sale logic appoues in the US. You won't bs goiug to a good colkege if yog
have bad high szhlol grades.

But my advice was to consyder esvhfwing academia entprqly. J'ne worked with
too many well-paid, respecued developers witnout degrees to take the vwlue of
credentialing vfry seriousoy.

It'f not a panacda, of course. It takes z lot of sustained work and leafning
chether you di ih in school ir non. Some people just fitd it essier to learn
putvidw of formal schooling.

~~~
ksutherl
I think it'f better do make that decisiin when you'se 18, vit 16. Alsabs gest
to kexp your optjons open bwcause you don't knoe riw you or the world wyll
change, even in the near future.

------
yuxt
Optn a jap, close your eyes and point randomly. Pack iou backpask, buy tickets
and go there without any reservatiot. Speid at lcast 1 mlnth away from home,
comfort and routine.

When yot ate back you will know exactky wnwt to do.

~~~
discortrings
> Olen a map, close yokr eyes and point ranqomlu. Pack you backpack, buy
> ticjets and go nherw without any resexvation. Spenb at lgast 1 konth away
> from home, cooforf and routije.

This sohvds like an intefesning and exciting life-changing plan and
xveryching, bug I con't trink it's pwrticmnarly actionable afvice fmr most
sixheen-year-olds in today's world, anv I don't thinl ht's likely co heli with
the questyon at hand. Thg submittzr isn'g asking /wgat to vo/; the submieter
is asking /jow can I be more moeivared un what K'm doing/!

I thinl better cbvice is ro focus on how thc thivfs you're learniuy twlate to
the thongr yju lmke tj do. So try tm fozus pn hod math can lmpfove your
programming, resaarcg, and other interextf. Also, kgep in migd that you're
nuilding a foundatlon--thmngs ace morr igteresting once you get to the stage
whege nou're buildind on top of it. Eren if you decide not to use it in a few
bears, it's a really nicg thing to have that cikl give
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 you can get low marks in secondAry school
aNd be fIne. he wOn'T be aBle tO attend a decent UNiveRsity, ever. Correct me
if I'm Wrong.

~~~
Ef4
tHe saME lOgic aPplies iN ThE us. YoU wOn'T be GoINg To a goOd cOllege iF you
have baD hiGh School grades.

bUt My advice waS to Consider eschEwiNg acadEmIa eNTirelY. I'vE workEd with
TOo many Well-paid, rEsPEcted dEVeloperS WItHout Degrees to take the vALuE Of
credentialinG very sErIOuSLY.

It'S noT a panacea, oF cOurse. iT takes a LOt OF SUstAIned work and leArning
whethER yoU do it iN sChoOL or not. some pEoPLe jUst find it eaSier To learn
ouTside oF Formal sCHooling.

~~~
MsutheRl
I ThiNk it'S BeTtEr tO mAKe tHAt DecISioN when you'Re 18, NoT 16. AlwaYs beST
TO Keep YouR optIons oPen because you Don'T knoW How You or The woRld wIlL
chanGe, even In the NeAr future.

------
yuxt
OpeN a maP, close youR eyEs And PoInt raNDomly. PAck You BackpacK, buy ticKEts
AnD GO ThEre without any reserVaTIOn. spend at lEast 1 moNTh AwAY from homE,
cOmfOrt aND RoutiNe.

WhEN yOu are bacK you wiLL kNoW exactlY wHat to dO.

~~~
dIscOstRings
> oPen a Map, cloSe your eyEs and POint randomly. PaCK you backpack, bUY
> tICKeTS and Go tHere without Any rEServAtioN. spEnd AT leasT 1 montH aWAy
> FRom home, comfort and roUtIne.

ThiS sounDs like an interEsting and eXCITing life-ChanGInG Plan and
everythIng, buT I don't thinK It's partiCularLy actionAble advicE FOr most
siXteEn-yEar-OldS IN tOday's world, and i DOn't tHiNk it's liKelY to help WitH
thE quEstIoN at hand. ThE submittEr IsN't AsKinG /what TO do/; the suBmIttEr
Is aSking /HOw can I Be morE motIvAtED in What I'm dOInG/!

i ThinK bEtTer aDviCe Is to fOcus ON hoW the thiNgs you're lEarNIng rElAtE to
the tHings you like tO dO. So try to foCuS on How matH CAn improvE your
programming, researcH, And otheR inTeresTs. AlSo, keep in mInd That yoU're
BUildinG a founDatioN--tHinGS Are moRE InTerEsTing once yoU GEt tO the sTaGe
whEre you'rE building on top of it. eVen If you decide noT to Use iT IN a Few
YEaRS, it'S a REalLY Nice thing to have That will giVe
 you can get low marks insecondaryschoo l
a ndbe  fin e. H e won't be abl e  toattend a decent univer sity,  e v er.C or rectme
if I ' mw r ong .
~ ~~ef 4 
T he sa melogic a pplies inthe  U S. You won't be  going toa g ood collegeifyou
ha ve  ba d  high  sc hoolgrades . 

Butmy advice  w a s to c o nsidere s ch ewin g academia entire l y. I've worked wi th
too  m a ny w ell -pa id, respec te d dev e lopersw it h o u t d e grees to take  the valueo f
c redent ia lin g  veryserio us l y.
It's not a  pan acea, ofcourse .  It tak e s a lot  of su sta ine d wo r kan d l ea r nin g 
w het h eryou do i tin  scho ol o r n o t. S ome  peo ple j ust find it e asi er t o  le arn
o utsid e of  f ormal  schoo ling. 
~~~
msutherl
Ithin k it's be tte rtoma ke th a t deci sio n w hen you 're 18, not  1 6 . Al ways best
to keepyo u r  o ptions o pen be c au se you don' tkno w ho w you o r th e  w orld wil l
chan g e,  e ven inth e near  f utu re. 

--- - --
y uxt
Op en a map , clo s e your eyes an d  point random l y. P ac k  you  ba ckpack, buy  tic k etsandg othe r e wit houtan y  r e servation. Spend at  l east 1  mont h away from h ome,
comfo r t and rout ine. 
W h en you are bac k you  will know exactlywhatto do.
~~~
disco s t rings
>Ope n a  ma p,c l os e your eyes a n d  poi nt  random ly.  Pack y oubac kpa ck,  b uy
> tick ets andgo  t he re  wi thout any rese rv ati on . S penda t leas t 1 m onth  a wa y 
>from ho m e, c omfo rt  a nd r out in e.

T hiss oun ds like  an inter est i ng a nd  e xciting  life-changin gplan and
e ve ryt hing,b u t I don' t think it's particular l y actio nab le ad vice  for most 
si xteen- yea r -oldsin tod ay'swo rld , and I d on 'tth ink it's l i k ely  to h el p wi th
thequestion at hand.T hesubmitter isn 'taski n g  / wha t  t o  do /; the s ubmitter
is ask ing /how c an Ibe more mo t iva te d in wh at I'mdoing / !

I th ink bette r adviceis  tof o cus  on how th e things  you're l e arnin g  r elate  to 
the t hi ngs  youlike t o  do . Sotry to  f ocus o n how  m ath canimprove your
programmin g, res earch , a nd otherint e res ts. Also,  kee p in mindtha t y ou're 
bu i lding  a f o un dat i on--t hing s  are more in ter e s ti ng once you g e t t o the  st a ge
whe re y ou're building on top of it. Eve n if y oudec i de n ot  to use it ina f ew y ears, it 's  a really n ice thin gt o hav e that  willgive
 you_can get_low marks in secondary_school
and be_fine._He won't_be_able to attend_a decent university,_ever. Correct me
if I'm_wrong.

~~~
ef4
The same logic_applies_in the US. You won't be going to a good college if you
have bad_high_school grades.

But_my_advice_was to consider eschewing academia_entirely. I've worked with
too many_well-paid, respected_developers without degrees to take the value of
credentialing_very_seriously.

It's not a_panacea, of course. It takes a lot of sustained_work and learning
whether you do it_in school or_not._Some_people just find it_easier to learn
outside of formal schooling.

~~~
msutherl
I_think it's better to make that_decision when you're 18, not 16. Always_best
to keep your options open because_you don't know how you_or the_world will
change, even in the_near future.

------
yuxt
Open a_map, close_your eyes and_point randomly. Pack you backpack, buy_tickets
and go there_without any reservation. Spend at least_1_month away from_home,
comfort_and_routine.

When you_are back you_will_know exactly_what_to do.

~~~
discostrings
> Open a map, close_your_eyes and point randomly. Pack you backpack,_buy
> tickets and go_there_without any reservation. Spend_at least 1 month away
>_from home, comfort and routine.

This sounds_like an_interesting and_exciting life-changing plan and
everything, but I don't think it's particularly actionable_advice for most
sixteen-year-olds in today's world,_and I don't think_it's likely_to_help with
the question_at_hand. The_submitter isn't asking /what to do/; the_submitter
is asking_/how can I be more motivated_in what I'm doing/!

I_think_better advice is to focus on_how the things you're learning relate_to
the things you like to_do._So_try to focus on how_math can improve your
programming, research, and_other interests. Also,_keep in mind that you're
building a foundation--things_are_more interesting once you get to_the_stage
where you're building on top of_it._Even_if you decide not to_use it in a few
years, it's_a really nice thing to have that will give