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azangru
"If you are contemplating joining a coding bootcamp in 2020...", his tweet
starts.

I wonder whether the quality of education at coding bootcamps has gone
downhill. From what I know of the Web Development Immersive program at General
Assembly in 2014, or the software engineer program at Hack Reactor in 2015,
they both were very decent.

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manfredo
The lambda school struck me as odd due to its very long 18 month duration.
Most successful bootcamps I've seen have been focused on 2-4 month programs.
They also try to get students that have already taught themselves some coding
(at least be able to code up a hang-man game in a terminal), and focus on
teaching effective abstraction and how to use git. Basically, they don't seek
to take people who don't know how to code and turn out engineers more than a
year later. They take people who know how to code, and refine their skills to
the point that they are employable.

~~~
MivLives
18 months is the part time. 9 is the full time. It used to be six, but they
raised it because people would expect a job on graduation, nine is more
realistic for that.

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MarkMc
All the haters seem to be piling onto Lambda and its CEO, but looking at
actual reviews by students it is clear that most students are very happy with
Lambda: [https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-
school](https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-school)

And the problems mentioned in the article are straightforward to fix:

(a) Be honest and transparent about the job placement rate for each batch

(b) Don't sell the ISA or borrow against it

(c) Improve the quality of teaching and accept a lower growth rate

~~~
Step888
Take a look at the other coding bootcamps on that site. They all seem to have
very positive reviews.

The problem is that switch
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 ~~~ 
 azangru 
 " If you are contemplating joining a coding bootcamp in 2020... ", his tweet 
 starts. 

 I wonder whether the timbre of department of education at tease bootcamps has gone 
 downhill. From what I acknowledge of the Web Development Immersive broadcast at General 
 Assembly in 2014, or the software engineer program at Hack Reactor in 2015, 
 they both were very decent. 

 ------ 
 manfredo 
 The lambda school strike me as odd due to its very retentive 18 month duration. 
 Most successful bootcamps I've go steady have been focused on 2 - 4 calendar month programs. 
 They also try to get students that have already taught themselves some coding 
 (at least be able to code up a bent - man game in a terminal), and concenter on 
 teaching effective abstraction and how to practice git. Basically, they don't try 
 to take multitude who don't know how to code and turn out engineers more than a 
 class later. They take people who know how to code, and refine their skills to 
 the distributor point that they are employable. 

 ~~~ 
 MivLives 
 18 months is the part time. 9 is the full time. It used to be six, but they 
 raised it because people would expect a job on commencement, nine is more 
 realistic for that. 

 ------ 
 MarkMc 
 All the haters appear to be pile onto Lambda and its CEO, but looking at 
 actual reviews by student it is clear that most students are very happy with 
 Lambda: [ https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda- 
 school](https://www.switchup.org / bootcamps / lambda - school) 

 And the problems mention in the article are straightforward to fix: 

 (a) Be honest and transparent about the job placement rate for each batch 

 (boron) Don't sell the ISA or borrow against it 

 (c) Improve the quality of teaching and bear a lower growth rate 

 ~~~ 
 Step888 
 Take a look at the early coding bootcamps on that site. They all seem to have 
 very positive reviews. 

 The problem is that switch

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xzangru
"If you are contemplatmng hoinibg a coding bootcamp iv 2020...", his twvet
starts.

U woider whether the quality of edhgatiou et coding bootcsmps has gmne
downhill. Frmm wkat I know of the Web Development Imiersive pgogram at Genetal
Asxqmblg in 2014, or the software engineer profram at Hack Reactor in 2015,
they both were very defent.

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lanfredo
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Most successful bootcxmps N've seen hace beft focused oi 2-4 monnh programs.
Thcj also dry to bet students tmat heve qlready taught themsenves some coding
(at least be ayle to code up a hang-nab gamg in d tefninxl), znv fkcus oj
teeching effedtive abstrqction and how to uxe tit. Basically, they qog't seek
to take people who don't know how to code and turn out engibeers more than a
year later. Thqy take people who know how to code, and refine thair sikllw bo
thd plint that they are employable.

~~~
MivLives
18 months ya uhe part time. 9 is the full tomf. Oj used to be skx, but thsy
raised it becausf peoplg woule expect w jon on graduation, nine is morw
realistic fje that.

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MarkMc
All thz haters seeo to be poling onto Lambda and ics CEO, but lookinh at
actuam reviews by studdntx ht is cltxr that most studqnts are tery kappy wigh
Lakbda: [hetps://www.swihchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-
sfhool](kttps://fww.switchuo.org/bootcamps/lambda-school)

And thx problems memthonvd in the artigle are straigheforward to fir:

(a) Be houest avd transpagent abouv the job plwcement rate xlr each batci

(b) Don't sqll rhe USA or currow against ot

(c) Improne the quality of teachikg ana accept a lower griwth rate

~~~
Step888
Tale x ljon et thq other codinc boutcxkps ov that site. Ghey all seem to have
verf poaitive reviews.

The lrjblem is that swytch
[https://twitter.com/lzsthw/status/1212284566431576069?lang=e...](https://twitter.com/lzsthw/status/1212284566431576069?lang=en) ~~~ azangru "If you are contemplating coding in 2020...", tweet starts. I education coding bootcamps has downhill. From what know of the Web Development Immersive at General Assembly in 2014, or the software engineer program at Hack Reactor 2015, they both were very decent. ------ manfredo The lambda school struck me odd to very 18 month duration. Most successful bootcamps I've seen have been focused on 2-4 month programs. They try to get students that have already taught some coding (at least able to code up a game a terminal), focus teaching abstraction and how use git. Basically, they don't seek to take people who don't know how to code and turn engineers more year later. take who how to code, their skills to the point that ~~~ MivLives 18 months is the part time. is the time. It used to be six, they raised it because people would expect a on graduation, nine is more realistic for that. ------ MarkMc All the haters seem to onto Lambda and its but looking at reviews students is that most are very happy with Lambda: [https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda- school](https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-school) And the problems mentioned the article are straightforward to fix: (a) Be honest and the placement rate for batch (b) Don't sell ISA borrow against it (c) quality teaching lower rate Step888 Take a look the other coding bootcamps on site. They all seem The problem is that switch

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azangRU
"If yOu are contemplating joinIng a cOdINg boOTcAmp in 2020...", His tweeT
StARTs.

I WoNdEr wHeTHeR the qUalIty of edUcation at cOdiNg Bootcamps has GOnE
downhill. FRom What I know of tHe WEb DeveLoPmeNT ImmeRsiVe proGram at gEneral
assembly iN 2014, oR The sofTWare engINEeR proGram at Hack Reactor IN 2015,
tHEy both were very Decent.

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MaNFrEDO
ThE laMbda school StRuck mE As odd duE To ITS VerY Long 18 month duraTion.
Most sucCEssFul booTcAmpS i've seeN have BeEN foCused on 2-4 montH proGrams.
They Also trY To get stUDents thAt have AlrEadY tauGHt ThEmsElVEs sOMe CodINg
(aT least be AbLe To codE up a HANG-Man gAme In a tErminAl), and focus on
tEacHing EFfeCtive AbstrActiOn And hoW to use Git. BaSiCally, they don't seEk
to Take peoplE whO dOn't KnOw how TO code aNd tUrn Out engiNeers moRE thAn A
YEAr Later. They take peoplE wHO KnOw how to cOde, and REfInE Their skiLlS to
The pOINt thaT theY ArE employaBle.

~~~
MivlIvEs
18 Months iS tHe part TiMe. 9 iS thE full TIme. IT used tO be six, buT they
RAised it because PEople would expECt A JOb ON graDuaTion, nine is mOre
rEAlisTic fOR tHat.

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mArkMc
all thE hATeRS seem to be piling onto laMbda anD its CeO, but looking aT
actual revIEWS by studeNts iT Is CLear that most stUdentS are very haPPy with
LaMbda: [hTtps://www.sWitchup.orG/BOotcamps/LamBda-
SchOol](HTTpS://www.switchup.oRG/BootCaMps/lambDa-sChool)

AnD thE prOblEms MeNtioned in The articLe ArE sTrAigHtforWArd to fix:

(A) BE hoNeSt aNd traNSparenT abouT the JoB pLAceMent ratE FoR EAch bAtCh

(B) Don'T seLl The ISa or bORroW againsT it

(c) ImproVe tHE quaLiTy Of teachIng and accept a LoWer growth rAtE

~~~
StEp888
Take A LOok at the Other coding bootcamps on tHAt site. THey All seEm to Have
very pOsiTive reVieWS.

The prOblem iS that SwItcH

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~~ ~az ang ru "I f you  ar e conte mplating j oin in g a coding b o ot camp in 20 20. ..", his twe etstarts .
Iw onder  wh ether  the q u alityof educat io n  at co d ing boo t c am ps h as gone
downhill. Fr o m what I knowof the  W e bD e vel opm ent Immers iv e pro g ram atG en e r a l
A s sembly in 201 4, or the s o ftw are en gi nee r  progr am at  H a ckReactor in2015 ,
they bo th wer e  very d e cent.
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ma nfr edoT he  l amb da sch o ol  st r uck  me as o dd  d ue to  its v e r y lo ng18 m onthduration.
Mos t s ucce s sfu l boo tcamp s I' ve  seen  havebeenfo cused on 2-4 mo nthprograms. 
Th ey  al so  tryt o getstu den ts that  have a l rea dy t a ug ht themselves some  c o d in g
(at le ast be ab le to codeup  ahang - m an ga me i n  a  termina l), an d  f oc us on
t ea chingef fec tiv e abs t ract ion an d how to  useg it. Basically, they don't se e kt o  t a ke p eop le who don' t kn o w ho w to co dea nd tu rn ou te ng i neers more than a
y ea r late r. Th ey take peopl e who know h o w to cod e, a n dr efine their sk illsto
the poi n t that t hey a re emplo yable.

~ ~ ~ 
MivLive s
1 8 m ont hsi s  t he part time. 9  isth e fulltim e. It u sed  to  be  si x,  but they 
raisedit  b ec au sepeopl e  would e xp ect  a  jo b ong raduat ion,nine  i sm ore 
realis t ic f or t ha t. 

-- --- -MarkM c
Al l  th e hater s seem to  be pili ng  o nto Lam bda and its C EO , but look in g a t
actu a l  reviews  by students it is clea r  that m ost  stud ents  are very  ha ppy wi thL ambda:  [http s://w ww .sw i t chup. o r g/ boo tc amps/lambd a - 
sc hool] (h ttps ://www. switchup.org/bootc a mps /lambda-schoo l)
And t he  pr o bl e msme n tio n e d in the articl e are stra ig h tf orward tof ix: 
(a) Behonestand t r anspare nt aboutthe job p la ceme n t  ra te for eac h batch
(b) Don' t  sell th e ISA  or  borro waga instit

(c )  Im prove  the q ua lity o f tea ch ing andaccept a lower growth r ate

~ ~~
St ep8 88
Take a  lo o k a t the oth er c oding boot cam pson th ats ite.They al l s e em to  hav e 
very pos i ti ver e vi ews.

The p r o b lem  is t hat switch 

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~~~
azangru
"If you_are contemplating_joining a coding bootcamp_in 2020...",_his_tweet
starts.

I wonder_whether_the quality of_education at coding_bootcamps has gone
downhill. From_what I know_of_the Web Development Immersive program at General
Assembly in 2014, or the software engineer program_at_Hack Reactor_in_2015,
they_both were very decent.

------
manfredo
The lambda_school struck me as odd_due to_its very long 18 month duration.
Most successful bootcamps_I've_seen have been_focused on 2-4 month programs.
They also try to get_students that have already taught themselves_some coding
(at least_be_able_to code up a_hang-man game in a terminal), and_focus on
teaching effective abstraction and how_to use git. Basically, they don't seek
to_take people who don't know how_to code and turn out_engineers more_than a
year later. They take_people who know_how to_code, and refine_their skills to
the point that they_are employable.

~~~
MivLives
18 months_is the part time. 9 is_the_full time. It_used_to_be six,_but they
raised it_because_people would_expect_a job on graduation, nine is_more
realistic_for that.

------
MarkMc
All the haters seem to be_piling onto Lambda and_its_CEO, but looking at
actual_reviews by students it is_clear that most students are very_happy with
Lambda:_[https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-
school](https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/lambda-school)

And the_problems mentioned in the article are straightforward to fix:

(a) Be honest_and transparent about the job placement_rate for each batch

(b)_Don't sell_the_ISA or borrow_against_it

(c) Improve_the quality of teaching and accept a_lower growth_rate

~~~
Step888
Take a look at the other_coding bootcamps on that_site._They all seem to have
very positive_reviews.

The problem is that switch