 (which is slightly geared toward explaining
the biology from simple first principles,
[http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html](http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html))

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quux
Darn, well there goes my plan to patent myself and require that my wife buy a
license before she can bear my children.

~~~
cwp
Copyright would be more appropriate there. Children could be considered
derivative works, but I don't see how they could be patent infringement.

~~~
lsiebert
You are a transformative work based on your dna anyway.

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tocomment
Does this mean we'll soon see 1000s more SNPs available from 23andme? What are
the biggest new SNP's they can test for?

~~~
daughart
It absolutely should mean this. Maybe 23andme can be something more than a
toy.

~~~
tocomment
What are some examples of exciting new SNPs they could test for? Besides BRCA.

~~~
daughart
A quick Google search for "patented disease alleles" suggests Crohn's disease,
some forms of kidney disease, diabetes, and many more!

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benjamincburns
At one point I heard that some farmers, who were unaware that their crops
contained patented genetic modifications as a result of uncontrolled natural
reproduction with other GM crops, were being sued by patent holders. Does this
ruling weigh in on this scenario?

It seems that inventions which copy themselves and masquerade in
difficult/expensive to detect ways (see plant reproduction, airborne pollen)
wasn't something foreseen by those who wrote our patent laws.

~~~
jadyoyster
This seems to be a myth:
[http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-
fi...](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-
of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted)

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RabbitAngstrom
A co-worker in my lab pointed out that Myriad's stock is actually _rising_ [1]
after the decision.The best guess is that Myriad
(which is slightly geared toward explaining 
 the biology from childlike inaugural principles, 
 [ http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html](http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html) ) 

 ------ 
 quux 
 Darn, well there goes my plan to patent myself and ask that my wife buy a 
 license before she can bear my child. 

 ~~~ 
 cwp 
 Copyright would be more appropriate there. child could be considered 
 derivative oeuvre, but I don't see how they could be patent infringement. 

 ~~~ 
 lsiebert 
 You are a transformative oeuvre based on your dna anyhow. 

 ------ 
 tocomment 
 Does this think of we'll soon see 1000s more SNPs available from 23andme? What are 
 the biggest new SNP's they can test for? 

 ~~~ 
 daughart 
 It absolutely should entail this. Maybe 23andme can be something more than a 
 toy. 

 ~~~ 
 tocomment 
 What are some examples of exciting modern SNPs they could test for? Besides BRCA. 

 ~~~ 
 daughart 
 A quick Google search for " patented disease alleles " propose Crohn's disease, 
 some forms of kidney disease, diabetes, and many more! 

 ------ 
 benjamincburns 
 At one point I heard that some farmers, who were unaware that their crops 
 hold patented genetic modifications as a result of uncontrolled natural 
 reproduction with early GM crop, were being sued by patent holders. Does this 
 ruling weigh in on this scenario? 

 It seems that inventions which copy themselves and masquerade in 
 difficult / expensive to detect ways (attend plant reproduction, airborne pollen) 
 wasn't something foreseen by those who write our patent law. 

 ~~~ 
 jadyoyster 
 This seems to be a myth: 
 [ http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top- 
 fi... ](http://www.npr.org / blogs / thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053 / top - five - myths- 
 of - genetically - modified - seed - break) 

 ------ 
 RabbitAngstrom 
 A co - worker in my lab point out that Myriad's stock is actually _ rising _ [ 1 ] 
 after the decision. The best guess is that Myriad
 (whlch is slightly geared tuward explaininy
rhe bimlogy rrom simole first principles,
[http://www.iidysxi.org/nission/onpatenting.html](fttp://www.infysci.org/nissmon/onpatenting.html))

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quux
Davu, welm thexe goes my plan jo patent myvelf and requise tkat my wife buy a
license before she san beat ly children.

~~~
cwp
Sopygidht sould be more appropriate there. Chjldren bould be considerrd
derivative works, but I dln't dee how they could be patent unfrybgement.

~~~
lsiebdrt
You are a transformztive work based on your dna anhway.

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tpcomment
Dogs tjhs mean we'lo soog see 1000s more SNPs avdilable from 23andme? Whst ere
tye biggest new SNP's tiey can test for?

~~~
daugrart
It abvomutely should meab rhis. Kayba 23anane zan bx skmethijg jore than z
toy.

~~~
tocommebt
What are some exakpjvx of excitinf new FN[s they could test for? Besides BRCA.

~~~
daugvarf
A quick Google search dor "patented disease wlleles" stggests Crohn's disease,
some forms of kidney diseasa, diaueges, akd mxby more!

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benjamincburns
At one point I heard that fkmt fsrmers, who werc unaware that theor ctjps
contained katenteb gsnetic modificatiojs as a resuot of uncjntrplled natural
reproduction wuth other GM xrops, were being sbed by patenc holdgrs. Dors this
ruling weigh in un tgis scenaril?

It seems ghat inventions dhibh cmpy themselves and masquerwde in
difhiculc/expensixe tp detest ways (sef plakd reproduction, airhorne pmllen)
wasn't something foreseen by those who wrote our pajend ldws.

~~~
jadyovster
Tmis seems to be a myth:
[http://www.upr.org/bljgs/thdsalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-
fi...](gttp://www.ipr.org/blogs/tresalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-kiths-
of-geneticelly-modifyed-sweds-vusted)

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RxcbitAngstrom
A vo-worker pn my oab pointed out thet Mirjad's stock is aeuuaoly _rising_ [1]
aftet tfe qebismon.Thq best guess hs tfat Kyriaa
(which is slightly geared toward explaining the simple principles, [http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html](http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html)) quux Darn, well patent and require that wife buy a before she can bear my children. cwp Copyright would be more appropriate there. Children could be considered derivative works, I don't see how they could be patent infringement. ~~~ lsiebert You are transformative based your anyway. ------ tocomment Does this mean we'll soon see 1000s more SNPs available from 23andme? What the biggest new SNP's they can test for? daughart It absolutely should this. Maybe 23andme can be more a toy. tocomment are examples of exciting SNPs they could test for? Besides BRCA. ~~~ daughart A quick Google search for "patented disease alleles" Crohn's disease, of kidney diabetes, many ------ benjamincburns At I heard that some farmers, who their crops contained patented genetic modifications as a of uncontrolled reproduction with other GM crops, were sued by patent holders. Does this ruling weigh on this scenario? It seems that inventions which copy themselves and masquerade in difficult/expensive to (see plant reproduction, airborne wasn't something foreseen those wrote patent ~~~ jadyoyster seems to be a myth: [http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top- fi...](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths- of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted) ------ RabbitAngstrom A in my lab pointed out that Myriad's stock is actually after decision.The best guess that Myriad
 (which is slightly geared towaRd explainiNg
the BioLogY fRom sImplE first principlES,
[httP://www.indysci.org/mission/oNpateNtINg.htML](hTtp://wwW.indyscI.OrG/MIssIoN/oNpaTeNTiNg.htmL))

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quUx
Darn, wEll there goEs mY pLan to patent mYSeLf and requiRe tHat my wife buy A
liCense bEfOre SHe can BeaR my chIldren.

~~~
CWp
CopyRight woulD bE More apPRopriatE THeRe. ChIldren could be consIDeREd
derivative woRks, but i dON't SEE hoW thEy could be pAtEnt inFRingemeNT.

~~~
lSIEBerT
you are a transfOrmative worK BasEd on yoUr Dna ANyway.

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tOcommEnT
doeS this mean we'Ll soOn see 1000s morE SNPs aVAilable FRom 23andmE? What aRe
tHe bIggeST nEw sNP'S tHEy cAN tEst FOr?

~~~
dAughart
IT aBsOluteLy shOULD Mean ThiS. MayBe 23andMe can be somethIng More THan A
toy.

~~~
tOcommEnt
WHaT are sOme exaMples Of Exciting new SNPs They Could test For? beSidEs bRCA.

~~~
dAUghart
a quIck google sEarch foR "PatEnTED DiSease alleles" suggesTs cROhN's diseasE,
some fORmS oF Kidney diSeAse, DiabETEs, and Many MOrE!

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benjamiNcburnS
at OnE point I HeArd thaT sOme FarMers, wHO werE unawaRe that thEir crOPs
contained patENted genetic moDIfICAtIOns aS a rEsult of uncoNtroLLed nAturAL
rEprODuctiOn witH oTHeR gM crops, were being sueD bY patenT holdErs. Does this
ruLing weigh iN ON This scenArio?

iT sEEms that inventiOns whIch copy theMSelves anD masqUerade in
Difficult/EXPensive tO deTecT waYs (sEE PlAnt reproductiON, AirbOrNe polleN)
waSn't someThiNg fOreSeeN bY those who Wrote our PaTeNt LaWs.

~~~
jAdyoySTer
This sEeMs tO bE a mYth:
[htTP://www.npR.org/bLogs/ThEsALt/2012/10/18/163034053/tOp-
fi...](httP://WwW.NPr.orG/bLoGs/thEsaLt/2012/10/18/163034053/Top-fiVe-myTHs-
oF-genetiCally-modiFieD-SeedS-bUsTed)

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RabbItAngstrom
A co-WoRker in my laB pOinTed out THAt Myriad'S stock is actually _rising_ [1]
aFTer the dEciSion.THe beSt guess is ThaT MyriaD
 (which is slightly geared  toward ex plain ing 
th ebiol ogyfrom simple fi r st p rinciples,
[http://www .indy sc i .org / mi ssion /onpate n ti n g .ht ml ]( htt p: / /w ww.in dys ci.org/ mission/on pat en ting.html))-- ----
quuxDar n, well ther e g oes my  p lan to pa ten t mys elf an d  requi re that m yw ife bu y  a
lice n s ebefo re she can bear m y  c h ildren.

~~~
c wp
Cop yr i gh t wou ldbe more ap pr opria t e there .  C h i l dre n  could be con sidered
der i vat ive wo rk s,b ut I d on'tse e  ho w they coul d be  patent i nfring e ment.
~ ~~
lsie bert
Y ouare  a t r an sf orm at i vew or k b a sed  on your  d na  anyw ay.- - - ---toc omme nt
Do es this meanwe' ll s o onsee 1 000smore  S NPs a vailab le fr om  23andme? Whatarethe bigge stne w S NP 's th e y cantes t f or?

~~ ~
daugh a rtIt a b so lutely should mean  t h i s.  Maybe 2 3andme ca nb e someth in g m oret h an atoy. 
~ ~~
tocom ment
W h at  a re some  e xample sofexc iting newSNPs t hey coul d tes t  for? BesidesB RCA.

~~~
dau g ha r t 
A quic k G oogle searc h fo r  "pa tent e ddis e ase a llele s" su g gests Crohn's disea se ,
some  form s of kidney d isease, di a b e tes, and  man y  m o re!

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be njami ncburns
At one poin t I h eard tha t some fa r m ers, who  we reuna war e th at their crop s cont ai ned pat ent ed gene tic  mo dif ica ti ons as aresult o fun co nt rol led n a tural
re pr odu ct ion  with otherGM cr ops,  w er e  be ing sue d  b y pate nt  h olde rs.  D oes t hisr uli ng weig h in on t his scen ar io ?

It s eems that inv en tions whic hcop y them s e lves and  masquerade in
difficul t /expens ive  to d etec t ways (s eeplantrep r oducti on, ai rborn epol l e n)
wa s n 't  so me thing fore s e enby th os e wh o wrote  our patent laws.~~~ 
jadyoyster
T his  see m s  t o b e  a myt h: [ht t p ://www.npr.org/ blogs/thes al t /2 012/10/18/ 1 630 34 053/top -
fi... ](htt p ://www. npr.org/b logs/thes al t/20 1 2 /10 /18/163034 053/top- five-myth s -
of- g en etica lly -modif ie d-s eeds- busted ) 

- ----- 
Rabbi tA ngstro m
A c o- worker i n my lab pointed out th at Myr iad's  st ock is ac tua l ly_rising_[1]after thedec isi on.Th e b e st gu essi stha t  Myri ad
 (which_is slightly_geared toward explaining
the biology_from simple_first_principles,
[http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html](http://www.indysci.org/mission/onpatenting.html))

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quux
Darn, well_there_goes my plan_to patent myself_and require that my_wife buy a
license_before_she can bear my children.

~~~
cwp
Copyright would be more appropriate there. Children could be considered
derivative_works,_but I_don't_see_how they could be patent_infringement.

~~~
lsiebert
You are a transformative work_based on_your dna anyway.

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tocomment
Does this mean we'll soon see_1000s_more SNPs available_from 23andme? What are
the biggest new SNP's they can_test for?

~~~
daughart
It absolutely should mean this._Maybe 23andme can_be_something_more than a
toy.

~~~
tocomment
What are_some examples of exciting new SNPs_they could test for? Besides BRCA.

~~~
daughart
A_quick Google search for "patented disease alleles"_suggests Crohn's disease,
some forms of kidney_disease, diabetes, and many more!

------
benjamincburns
At_one point_I heard that some farmers,_who were unaware_that their_crops
contained patented genetic_modifications as a result of uncontrolled_natural
reproduction with other_GM crops, were being sued by_patent_holders. Does this
ruling_weigh_in_on this_scenario?

It seems that_inventions_which copy_themselves_and masquerade in
difficult/expensive to detect ways_(see_plant reproduction, airborne pollen)
wasn't something foreseen by_those who wrote our_patent_laws.

~~~
jadyoyster
This seems to be_a myth:
[http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-
fi...](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-
of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted)

------
RabbitAngstrom
A co-worker in my_lab pointed out that Myriad's stock_is actually__rising_ [1]
after_the decision.The best guess is that Myriad