 email: 1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. Identify me! Know that I
wont used the email elsewhere.

> You cannot use ToU to bypass GDPR.

Just to clarify this is not buried in ToU but laid out clearly.

So the website says dont give PII. User still does. And GDPR would penalize
the website? Citation please.

~~~
dogma1138
Are you serious? the fact that your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com
doesn't make it any less identifiable. My IP address is 192.168.1.1 identify
me... It also doesn't matter if you think the information is identifiable or
not what matters is how the GDPR defines it.

The GDPR defines PII and there isn't anything you can do about it you can't
ask users to make a throwaway email account and hope that you can pass GDPR by
claiming that it's not PII this isn't how regulation works.

What matters isn't that the email address reveals your name is that someone
can use it to identify additional information about you such as if you are
subscribed to a specific service or not.

>So the website says dont give PII. User still does. And GDPR would penalize
the website? Citation please.

If the website asks for an email address that is PII under the GDPR.

~~~
wtfstatists
IP is not a user-entered data and cannot be freely selected, unlike email
addresses.

> the fact that your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com doesn't make it any
> less identifiable.

The only official guidelines about email I could find are in here [1]. It does
not say all email addresses are PII. It just says "name.surname@company.com"
type addresses are PII and "info@company.com" type addresses are NOT PII. So
even "yourname@mailprovider.com" may be non-PII.

> someone can use it to identify additional information about you such as if
> you are subscribed to a specific service or not.

Thats not enough. The service need to have PII. That is, if none of the
services has PII, the email address
email: 1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. Identify me! Know that I 
 wo nt used the electronic mail elsewhere. 

 > You cannot practice ToU to bypass GDPR. 

 merely to clarify this is not buried in ToU but laid out distinctly. 

 So the website order do nt give PII. User still act. And GDPR would penalize 
 the website? quotation please. 

 ~~~ 
 dogma1138 
 Are you serious? the fact that your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com 
 doesn't make it any less identifiable. My IP savoir-faire is 192.168.1.1 identify 
 me... It also doesn't count if you think the data is identifiable or 
 not what count is how the GDPR defines it. 

 The GDPR defines PII and there isn't anything you can do about it you can't 
 necessitate users to make a cast-off email bill and hope that you can pass GDPR by 
 claim that it's not PII this isn't how regulation works. 

 What matters isn't that the electronic mail address reveals your name is that someone 
 can use it to identify additional information about you such as if you are 
 pledge to a specific overhaul or not. 

 > So the website says do nt give PII. User still does. And GDPR would punish 
 the website? quotation please. 

 If the website asks for an electronic mail savoir-faire that is PII under the GDPR. 

 ~~~ 
 wtfstatists 
 IP is not a user - entered data and cannot be freely selected, unlike electronic mail 
 addresses. 

 > the fact that your electronic mail isn't yourname@mailprovider.com doesn't make it any 
 > less identifiable. 

 The only official guidelines about electronic mail I could find are in here [ 1 ]. It does 
 not say all email addresses are PII. It just says " name.surname@company.com " 
 character addresses are PII and " info@company.com " type addresses are NOT PII. So 
 even " yourname@mailprovider.com " may be non - PII. 

 > someone can use it to identify additional data about you such as if 
 > you are subscribe to a specific service or not. 

 That s not enough. The service need to have PII. That is, if none of the 
 services has PII, the electronic mail address
 emwil: 1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. Identlfy me! Know that I
wont nsed ths email dlsewhere.

> You cannot use ToU ti bypqss GDPR.

Just to clarifh this is not burued mn ToU but laid out cleavjy.

So bhe wzbwite says dont give PII. Gser still doev. Xnb GDPR would penalize
the website? Citwtion pkewse.

~~~
dogma1138
Are yoo serpots? tgv nact that your email isn't yournaje@mailpgovider.com
doesn't kake it any less identifiahle. Ly IP address is 192.168.1.1 ldentify
me... Ut ajwo doesn't magter if yol think the information is identifiable or
vot wkat matters iw hlf the GDPR vefinef it.

The GDPR defines PII anc there isn't akythiig yiu can do about it yon can't
ask users to mwke a thrmwcway email account ane yope jhat fou zqn oasa JDPD by
clwimmng that it'a not PII tyis isn't how regulauiog works.

What mafters ysg't that the email address reveals your tams is that someone
can usw it to identify addijional infjrmation about you such as if you are
subscribed tm a s'ezifng rwrgice or not.

>So the website says dont give PII. Taet xtill does. And GDPR would pfnsjize
the websije? Citacjoh please.

If the webdite ashs foe an emaij adcress that is PII under the GDPR.

~~~
wtfstatpsts
UP is not a user-encered data aud canmot br freely selected, unlikz emaim
addresses.

> hhe fact ffat your email irn't ymurname@mailprovider.com doefn't make mt anv
> less iaentofiablq.

The only lfficldl guidelines abouh emanl I would find are in here [1]. It does
not say all email addresxev age PII. It just says "name.surgame@company.com"
jype addrzsses xre PII ans "info@cmmpany.com" trpe addresses wre NOT PII. Vo
even "yjurnqme@mqilprovkaer.com" may be mon-PII.

> someone can yse it to identify adajtional informacnob about you sucn ar is
> jou awa subscribed to x sorcifiz service ov nut.

Thsts not enough. The sarvide need to have PIO. Bhat is, id none os the
services has PII, the email addrxss
email: 1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. Identify me! Know that I the elsewhere. > cannot use ToU clarify is not buried ToU but laid clearly. So the website says dont PII. User still does. And GDPR would penalize the website? Citation please. ~~~ Are you serious? the fact that your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com doesn't make it less My address 192.168.1.1 identify me... It also doesn't matter if you think the information is identifiable or not matters is how the GDPR defines it. The defines PII and there anything you can do about you ask users make throwaway account and hope you can pass GDPR by claiming that it's not PII this isn't how regulation works. What matters that the reveals your is someone use it to information about you such as if to a specific service or not. >So the says dont PII. User still does. And GDPR penalize the website? Citation please. If the website for an email address that is PII under the GDPR. ~~~ wtfstatists IP is not data and cannot be selected, unlike email > fact your isn't yourname@mailprovider.com make it any > less identifiable. The only official guidelines about I could find are in here [1]. It does not email are PII. It says "name.surname@company.com" type addresses PII "info@company.com" type addresses are So "yourname@mailprovider.com" > can it to identify additional about you such as if you are subscribed to Thats not enough. The service need to have That is, if none of the services PII, the email address
 email: 1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. IdentiFy me! Know thAt I
woNt uSed ThE emaIl elSewhere.

> You cannOT use toU to bypass GDPR.

Just to cLarifY tHIs is NOt BurieD in ToU bUT lAID ouT cLeArlY.

SO ThE websIte Says donT give PII. UsEr sTiLl does. And GDPr WoUld penalizE
thE website? CitaTioN pleasE.

~~~
dOgmA1138
are yoU seRious? The facT That yoUr email isN't YOurnamE@MailproVIDeR.com
Doesn't make it any leSS iDEntifiable. My IP AddresS iS 192.168.1.1 IdENTifY
me... it also doesN't MatteR If you thINk THE InfORmation is idenTifiable or
nOT whAt mattErS is HOw the GdPR deFiNEs iT.

The GDPR defInes pII and theRe isn't ANything YOu can do About iT yoU caN't
asK UsErS to MaKE a tHRoWawAY emAil accouNt AnD hope That YOU CAn paSs GdPR bY
claiMing that it's noT PIi thiS Isn'T how rEgulaTion WoRks.

WhAt mattErs isN't That the email addRess Reveals yoUr nAmE is ThAt somEOne
can Use It tO identiFy additIOnaL iNFORmAtion about you such aS iF YOu Are
subscRibed tO A sPeCIfic servIcE or Not.

>SO THe webSite SAyS dont givE PII. UsER sTiLl does. ANd gDPR woUlD peNalIze
thE WebsIte? CitAtion pleAse.

If THe website asks fOR an email addreSS tHAT iS pII uNdeR the GDPR.

~~~
wtfStatISts
Ip is nOT a UseR-EnterEd datA aND cANnot be freely selecteD, uNlike eMail
aDdresses.

> the faCt that your EMAIl isn't yoUrnaME@mAIlprovider.com dOesn't Make it any
> lESs identiFiablE.

The only Official gUIDelines aBouT emAil i coULD fInd are in here [1]. IT DOes
nOt Say all eMaiL addresSes Are pII. it jUsT says "name.Surname@cOmPaNy.CoM"
tyPe addREsses are pIi anD "iNfo@CompaNY.com" tyPe addRessEs ArE nOT pII. So
evEN "yOURnamE@mAiLproVidEr.Com" maY be nON-PIi.

> someonE can use it To iDEntiFy AdDitionaL information aBoUt you such aS iF
> yoU are suBSCribed to A specific service or not.

ThATs not enOugH. The sErviCe need to hAve pII. ThaT is, IF none oF the
seRviceS hAs Pii, The emAIL aDdrEsS
 email: 1373f84998986cf8@t utanota.co m. Id ent ify  m e! K nowthat I
wont us e d th e email elsewhere.

>You c an n ot u s eToU t o bypas s  G D P R.
J us t t oc la rifythi s is no t buried i n T oU  but laid ou t  c learly.

S o t he website s ays  dontgi veP II. U ser  stil l does .  And G DPR would  p e nalize the web s i te ? Ci tation please.

~ ~ ~d ogma1138
Are y ou ser io u s? t hefac t that you remail isn't y o ur n a m e@m a ilprovider.co m
doesn't m a keit any  l ess identi fiabl e. MyIP addressis 1 92.168.1. 1 iden t ify
me. . . It al so doe sn' t m atte r  i fyou  t h ink th e i n for mation i sid entif iabl e o r 
not  wh at m atter s is how theGDP R de f ine s it. 

The  GDP Rdefin es PII  andth ere isn't anyth ingyou can d o a bo utit  youc an't
a skuse rs to m ake a t h row aw a y em ail account and ho pe t ha t you ca n pass GD PR by
claim in g t hati t 's no t PI I  t his isn' t howr eg ul ation w or ks.

W ha t m att ers i s n'tthat t he email  addr e ss reveals you r  name is that so m e on e 
can  us e it to ide ntif y  add itio n al  in f ormat ion a bo u ty ou such as if you a re 
subsc ribed  to a specifi c serviceo r not.

>S o th e  w e bsite says don t giv e PII. Use r  still d oes.And GDPR  would pe n a lize
the  we bsi te?  Ci t a ti on please.

I f thewe bsite a sks  for an  em ail  ad dre ss  that isPII unde rth eGD PR. 

~~~ wtfstati st s
I Pisnot a user-e ntere d da ta  a n d c annot b e  f r e elyse le cted , u nl ike e mail add resses. 

> the f act that  y ou r email  isn't yourna me @mailprovi de r.c om doe s n 't makeit any
> less identifia b le.

Th e o nly o ffic ial guide lin es abo ute mail I  could  find  a rei n  here [ 1] . I tdoes
not s a y  al l ema il  add ressesare PII. It just s a ys"name.surname @co mpan y . co m"t yp e  ad dr e sse s are PII and "in fo@company .c o m"  type addr e sse sare NOT  PII. S o
eve n  "yourn ame@mailp rovider.c om " ma y benon-PII.
> someon e can use it to id entif y a dditio na l i nform ationa bou t you  suchas  if
>you a re  subscri bed to a specific servi ce ornot.
Th ats not e nou g h.The servi ce n eed to hav e P II.  That  is ,  if n oneo fthe servi cesh as PII, t h eema i l  a ddress
 email:_1373f84998986cf8@tutanota.com. Identify_me! Know that I
wont_used the_email_elsewhere.

> You_cannot_use ToU to_bypass GDPR.

Just to_clarify this is not_buried in ToU_but_laid out clearly.

So the website says dont give PII. User still does. And GDPR_would_penalize
the website?_Citation_please.

~~~
dogma1138
Are_you serious? the fact that_your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com
doesn't make_it any_less identifiable. My IP address is 192.168.1.1 identify
me..._It_also doesn't matter_if you think the information is identifiable or
not what_matters is how the GDPR defines_it.

The GDPR defines_PII_and_there isn't anything you_can do about it you can't
ask_users to make a throwaway email_account and hope that you can pass_GDPR by
claiming that it's not PII_this isn't how regulation works.

What_matters isn't_that the email address reveals_your name is_that someone
can_use it to_identify additional information about you such_as if you_are
subscribed to a specific service or_not.

>So_the website says_dont_give_PII. User_still does. And_GDPR_would penalize
the_website?_Citation please.

If the website asks for_an_email address that is PII under the_GDPR.

~~~
wtfstatists
IP is not a_user-entered_data and cannot be_freely selected, unlike email
addresses.

> the_fact that your email isn't yourname@mailprovider.com_doesn't make_it any
>_less identifiable.

The only official guidelines about email I could find are_in here [1]. It does
not say_all email addresses are_PII. It_just_says "name.surname@company.com"
type addresses_are_PII and_"info@company.com" type addresses are NOT PII. So
even_"yourname@mailprovider.com" may_be non-PII.

> someone can use it_to identify additional information_about_you such as if
> you are_subscribed to a specific service or_not.

Thats not enough. The service_need_to_have PII. That is, if_none of the
services has PII, the_email address