 it, but I can tell you that the experience of
entering the US as a US citizen is only marginally better.

Leaving/entering the US is something I avoid at all costs. Sad but true.

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nottrobin
Thanks so much for sharing this.

I think treatment of immigrants by border controls is shocking, and the
biggest problem is how little attention / voice the problem gets.

Please continue to write about your experiences.

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rjzzleep
welcome to how germany treats their own citizen

~~~
sourishkrout
BS

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madaxe
I have a simple solution for not dealing with US immigration's bullshit. Too
many trips marred by days spent in featureless rooms waiting for Godot, a
full-time employee of your border agency.

Anyway - simple solution - don't go to America. Don't work with Americans.

Europe and Asia are big markets.

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tmktmk
This is the biggest non-problem ever:

1) Did the author get in? Yes

2) Did customs do their job and scrutinize the person's paperwork? Yes

3) Was the person held for an inordinately long time? No -- 3 hours is not a
"long time." If you can't deal with the fact that you just flew (potentially)
halfway across the world in an airplane

4) Was the author unduly molested or given harsh treatment, perhaps by being
denied food, water, medication, or otherwise harassed? No -- the author points
out that there was a water fountain and snack machines, and the author was not
strip searched, nor was he otherwise harassed/degraded. Sitting in a waiting
room while your paperwork clears is "not a big deal."

Please stop blowing things out of proportion, and criticizing the US for no
reason. I've immigrated to and lived in 3 different countries, and BY FAR the
procedure described here is not difficult or tedious. If you can't deal with a
a 3 hour wait, how can you deal with anything? Patience is a virtue.

BTW -- I was a paying awe.sm customer -- I just cancelled my account due to
this overblown blog posting. Enjoy.

 
Google Wants a Piece of Air-Traffic
it, but I can tell you that the experience of 
 entering the US as a US citizen is only marginally better. 

 leave / insert the US is something I avoid at all price. deplorable but true. 

 ------ 
 nottrobin 
 Thanks so much for share this. 

 I think treatment of immigrant by edge controls is disgraceful, and the 
 biggest problem is how fiddling care / voice the problem experience. 

 Please stay to publish about your experiences. 

 ------ 
 rjzzleep 
 welcome to how germany treats their own citizen 

 ~~~ 
 sourishkrout 
 BS 

 ------ 
 madaxe 
 I have a dim-witted solution for not dealing with US immigration's bullshit. Too 
 many trips marred by day spent in featureless rooms waiting for Godot, a 
 full - time employee of your edge agency. 

 Anyway - simple solution - don't go to America. Don't work with Americans. 

 Europe and Asia are big markets. 

 ------ 
 tmktmk 
 This is the biggest non - problem ever: 

 1) Did the author get in? Yes 

 2) Did customs do their job and scrutinize the person's paperwork? Yes 

 3) Was the person held for an inordinately retentive time? No -- 3 hours is not a 
 " farseeing meter. " If you can't deal with the fact that you just flew (potentially) 
 halfway across the populace in an airplane 

 4) Was the author unduly molested or given harsh discussion, perhaps by being 
 denied food, water, medication, or otherwise harassed? No -- the author points 
 out that there was a water fountain and snack machine, and the writer was not 
 strip searched, nor was he otherwise harassed / degraded. Sitting in a expect 
 room while your paperwork clears is " not a big deal. " 

 Please check blowing things out of proportion, and criticizing the US for no 
 cause. I've immigrated to and know in 3 different countries, and BY FAR the 
 operation described here is not unmanageable or tedious. If you can't deal with a 
 a 3 hour wait, how can you deal with anything? solitaire is a virtue. 

 BTW -- I was a paying awe.sm customer -- I just delete my account due to 
 this grandiloquent blog posting. Enjoy. 

 
 Google want a Piece of Air - Traffic
 it, but I can tell you that the experience of
entecing ths US as x US citizen is only marginaplt betuvr.

Leaving/entering the US is solething U aviud at all rksts. Sad but fvue.

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noctcobin
Thanks so kuch for svaring this.

I tvivk treatment of immigrants by border sontrolx ls shocking, anq tht
bidgesf problem is how little attention / voice uhe problem gets.

Plrase continue to write abokt ylur experiences.

------
rjzxleep
welcomg to yow germany greats thepx own citizgn

~~~
sourishkrout
BS

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madaxe
I have a skmple solution doe nlj dealing wivh US pmmigration's nlllshit. Too
manu trips marred by dats spent in featurelevs rooms waiting fjr Godot, d
fbll-time employee of yiue borger dgenzt.

Anhwag - sjmple dolntion - don't go to Ameruca. Don't work with Smqgocans.

Europe znd Asya are big markets.

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tmktmk
This is the biggevt hon-problem ever:

1) Did the author get in? Yes

2) Dif customs do their job and scrutinize the person's paperworn? Yes

3) Das tme pdesln held for an inordinately long time? No -- 3 hotds ix not a
"long tiie." If you csn'h cgal with the fxct thcf gou just flew (potejtially)
ralfwqy across the world in an airplane

4) Was tye author unbult molested or giveu harsh treacment, kerhapx by being
denied food, wcter, msdication, og otherwiad harassed? No -- tfe sudhor points
out that there ras a watxr fobntain avd smack mwchines, anf the author was not
strio seatched, tor was he otherwise harassed/degraded. Sitvmng in a waitonc
romm while your paperwork clqars is "not a yig deal."

'lease stop blowpng thingv out of prjportion, and wtiticizing thx US for go
reqson. I've imokgrated to and lived in 3 differenr countries, and BY FAT fhe
procedure dewcrubed here is noy dkffycllt ow tedious. If fou zan'g deal with a
a 3 hijr wsit, how can you deal witg anything? Patiencr ls a virtoe.

BTW -- I ras a paying swe.sm customer -- I uust rancelued mu ascount due to
this overblown blkg postinh. Ekjoy.

 
Google Wwnts a Piece of Cir-Traffic
it, but I can tell you that of the US a US citizen the is something I at all costs. but true. ------ nottrobin Thanks so for sharing this. I think treatment of immigrants by border controls is shocking, the biggest problem is how little attention / voice the problem gets. Please to about experiences. rjzzleep welcome to how germany treats their own citizen ~~~ sourishkrout BS ------ madaxe I have simple solution for not dealing with US immigration's Too many trips marred days spent in featureless rooms for a full-time of border Anyway - simple - don't go to America. Don't work with Americans. Europe and Asia are big markets. ------ tmktmk is the ever: 1) the get Yes 2) Did their job and scrutinize the person's Was the person held for an inordinately long No -- hours is not a "long time." you can't deal with the fact that you flew (potentially) halfway across the world in an airplane 4) Was the author unduly molested harsh treatment, perhaps by denied food, water, or harassed? -- author points that there was a water fountain and snack machines, and the was not strip searched, nor was he otherwise harassed/degraded. Sitting waiting while your paperwork is "not a big Please blowing things out of criticizing US I've to lived in 3 different and BY FAR the procedure here is not difficult deal with a a 3 hour wait, how you deal with anything? Patience is a BTW -- I was a paying awe.sm customer -- I just cancelled account due overblown blog posting. Enjoy. Google Wants a Piece Air-Traffic
 it, but I can tell you that the exPerience of
EnterIng The uS As a Us citIzen is only margINallY better.

Leaving/entering The US Is SOmetHInG I avoId at all COsTS. sad BuT tRue.

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NoTTrObin
THanKs so mucH for sharinG thIs.

i think treatmENt Of immigranTs bY border contrOls Is shocKiNg, aND the
bIggEst prOblem iS How litTle attentIoN / Voice tHE probleM GEtS.

PleAse continue to writE AbOUt your experienCes.

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rjzZlEEp
WELcoMe tO how germanY tReats THeir own CItIZEN

~~~
soURishkrout
BS

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maDaxe
I have a sIMplE solutIoN foR Not deaLing wItH uS iMmigration's BullShit. Too
maNy tripS Marred bY Days speNt in feAtuRelEss rOOmS wAitInG For gOdOt, a
FUll-Time emplOyEe Of youR borDER AGencY.

AnYway - SimplE solution - don't Go tO AmeRIca. don't wOrk wiTh AmErIcans.

europe And AsIa Are big markets.

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tmKtmk
this is the BigGeSt nOn-ProblEM ever:

1) DId tHe aUthor geT in? Yes

2) DID cuStOMS Do Their job and scrutinIzE THe Person's pAperwoRK? YEs

3) wAs the perSoN heLd foR AN inorDinaTElY long timE? No -- 3 houRS iS nOt a
"long TiMe." If yoU cAn't DeaL with THe faCt that You just fLew (poTEntially)
halfwaY Across the worlD In AN AiRPlanE

4) WaS the author uNdulY MoleSted OR gIveN Harsh TreatMeNT, pERhaps by being
denied fOoD, water, MedicAtion, or otherwIse harasseD? nO -- The authoR poiNTs
OUt that there was A wateR fountain aND snack maChineS, and the aUthor was nOT
Strip seaRchEd, nOr wAs hE OThErwise harasseD/DEgraDeD. SittinG in A waitinG
roOm wHilE yoUr Paperwork Clears is "NoT a BiG dEal."

pleasE Stop blowInG thInGs oUt of pROportiOn, and CritIcIzINg tHe US for NO
rEASon. I'Ve ImMigrAteD tO and lIved IN 3 diFferent Countries, And by FAR ThE
pRocedurE described herE iS not difficUlT or TediouS. iF you can't Deal with a
a 3 hour wait, how caN You deal WitH anytHing? patience iS a vIrtue.

BtW -- I WAs a payIng awe.Sm cusToMer -- i JUst caNCElLed My Account due TO
ThiS overBlOwn bLog postIng. Enjoy.

 
Google WantS A PiEce of Air-TraffIc
 it, but I can tell you th at the exp erien ceofen teri ng t he US as a USc itiz en is only marginallybette r. 
Lea v in g/ent ering t h eU S  is  s om eth in g  I  avoi d a t all c osts. Sadbut  t rue.

------ no ttrobin
Th ank s so much fo r s haring  t his . 

I t hin k tre atment of imm igrants b yb orderc ontrols i sshoc king, and the
big g es t  problem is ho w litt le at t e nti on/ voice th eprobl e m gets. 
P l e a sec ontinue to wr ite about y o urexperi en ces . 

---- --
rj zz l eep 
welcome to  how  germanytreats their o w n citiz en

~~ ~
s our ishk r ou tBS
- - --- - 
m ada x e
I  have asi mp le so luti o n f or n otdeal ing w ith US immigr ati on's bul lshit . Too 
man ytrips  marre d byda ys spent in fea ture less room s w ai tin gfor G o dot, a 
fu ll- time em ployeeo f y ou r b or der agency.

Anywa y- si mple sol ution-  d on ' t go toAm eri ca.D o n't w orkw it h Americ ans.
E ur op e and A si a arebi g m ark ets.---- --
tmk tmk
This  is t h e biggest non- p roblem ever:1) D id theaut hor get in?  Yes 
2)Didc us tom s  do t heirjo b  a n d scrutinize the pe rs on's p aperw ork? Yes

3)Was the pe r s o n held f or a n  i n ordinately lon g tim e? No -- 3 hours is  nota
"longtime." If y ou can't  de alwit h t h e  f act that youj u st f le w (pote nti ally)
h alf way  ac ros sthe world  in an a ir pl an e
4)  Wast he autho rund ul y m olest e d or g ivenhars htr e atm ent, pe r ha p s  bybe in g
de nie dfood,  wat e r,medicat ion, or o the r wise  h ar assed?No -- the aut ho r points
o ut  th at the r e  was a w ater fountain and snack machine s,and t he a uthor was  no t
stri p s e arched , norwas h eoth e r wiseh a ra sse d/ degraded.S i tti ng in  a  wai ting
ro om while your pape r wor k clears is " not  a b i g  d eal . "Ple as e  st o p  blowing things  out of pr op o rt ion, and c r iti ci zing th e US fo r nor eason.I've immi grated to  a nd l i v edin 3 diffe rent cou ntries, a n d BYF AR  thepro cedure  d esc ribed  herei s n ot di fficul tor ted ious.  I f you ca n't deal with a
a 3 hou r wait , how  ca n you dea l w i thanything?  Pat ience is a  vi rtu e.

B TW- - I w as a pa yin g  awe. sm c u stomer -- Ijus t ca ncelled mya c c oun t due  to this o verb lown blog posting .  Enjoy.

 
Goo gleW a nts  aP iece  o f Air-Traffic
 it,_but I_can tell you that_the experience_of
entering_the US_as_a US citizen_is only marginally_better.

Leaving/entering the US is_something I avoid_at_all costs. Sad but true.

------
nottrobin
Thanks so much for sharing this.

I think treatment of immigrants_by_border controls_is_shocking,_and the
biggest problem is how_little attention / voice the_problem gets.

Please_continue to write about your experiences.

------
rjzzleep
welcome to how_germany_treats their own_citizen

~~~
sourishkrout
BS

------
madaxe
I have a simple solution for not dealing with_US immigration's bullshit. Too
many trips marred_by days spent_in_featureless_rooms waiting for Godot,_a
full-time employee of your border agency.

Anyway_- simple solution - don't go_to America. Don't work with Americans.

Europe and_Asia are big markets.

------
tmktmk
This is the_biggest non-problem ever:

1) Did the_author get_in? Yes

2) Did customs do_their job and_scrutinize the_person's paperwork? Yes

3)_Was the person held for an_inordinately long time?_No -- 3 hours is not_a
"long_time." If you_can't_deal_with the_fact that you_just_flew (potentially)
halfway_across_the world in an airplane

4) Was_the_author unduly molested or given harsh treatment,_perhaps by being
denied food,_water,_medication, or otherwise harassed?_No -- the author points
out_that there was a water fountain_and snack_machines, and_the author was not
strip searched, nor was he otherwise harassed/degraded. Sitting_in a waiting
room while your paperwork_clears is "not a_big deal."

Please_stop_blowing things out_of_proportion, and_criticizing the US for no
reason. I've immigrated_to and_lived in 3 different countries, and_BY FAR the
procedure described_here_is not difficult or tedious. If_you can't deal with a
a 3_hour wait, how can you_deal_with_anything? Patience is a virtue.

BTW_-- I was a paying awe.sm_customer -- I_just cancelled my account due to
this overblown_blog_posting. Enjoy.

 
Google Wants a Piece_of_Air-Traffic