 technical people I can tell the exact web
product I'm working on.

for grandparents and others, I "solve technical problems using a variety of
tools. kind of like an engineer would by first drawing schematics, and then
following them to construct a bridge"

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bazookaBen
i tell them "I make mobile games", in which case 99% of the time, they'll
bring up Angry Birds.

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piyushco
"I make Apps for android, iPhone"

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davidjnelson
"I write software".

 
Google Adds Song Lyrics to Top of Search Results Points Searchers to Google Play - jamesgagan
http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/22/google-adds-song-lyrics-to-top-of-search-results-points-searchers-to-google-play/
======
zarriak
It seems like this is a great example of the problem that Google faces. They
have built up a good product line based off of the revenue from search and
those products support search in turn by providing content and/or more
opportunities for interactions(read advertising money). This in turn takes
away from the sites that they are listing, making them the lifeline and the
competition at the same time. The problem is making a search engine has
evolved from listing the best websites for the user's request, it is about
providing information as easy and quickly as possible. This optimization in
turn takes away from sites dedicated to relaying that information. It makes
Google seem as they are practicing monopolistic business, but they are really
just trying to improve their product.

It appears as if resolution can only come from splitting up the search part of
the company with the rest (assuming it is split into only two entities). I
think Google can resolve this by splitting up the knowledge graph results from
the rest of search by making the feeling lucky button analogous to showing
only what knowledge graph and information cards. They still would have a very
dominant share of search, mobile, etc. but it would alleviate the connection
of Google the search engine provider and Google the 21st century thesaurus.

~~~
blfr
This is from the perspective of a site owner. From user's perspective,
Google's best guess at the top, and a list of
technical people I can tell the exact web 
 merchandise I'm bring on. 

 for grandparents and others, I " solve technical problems use a variety of 
 tools. kind of like an engineer would by beginning draft schematics, and then 
 come them to construct a bridge " 

 ------ 
 bazookaBen 
 i tell them " I take mobile game ", in which case 99% of the time, they'll 
 bring up Angry Birds. 

 ------ 
 piyushco 
 " I make Apps for android, iPhone " 

 ------ 
 davidjnelson 
 " I write software ". 

 
 Google Adds Song Lyrics to Top of Search consequence Points Searchers to Google Play - jamesgagan 
 http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/22/google-adds-song-lyrics-to-top-of-search-results-points-searchers-to-google-play/ 
 = = = = = = 
 zarriak 
 It seems like this is a big example of the problem that Google faces. They 
 have construct up a good product line based off of the revenue from search and 
 those product support search in turn by providing content and/or more 
 opportunities for interactions(read ad money). This in bend takes 
 away from the sites that they are listing, making them the lifeline and the 
 competition at the same time. The trouble is create a search engine has 
 develop from listing the best websites for the user's request, it is approximately 
 providing data as easy and quickly as potential. This optimization in 
 turn takes away from sites dedicated to relaying that data. It makes 
 Google seem as they are practicing monopolistic business, but they are really 
 just trying to better their product. 

 It appears as if resolution can only come from burst up the search part of 
 the company with the rest (assuming it is split into only two entities). I 
 think Google can answer this by splitting up the cognition graph results from 
 the rest of search by making the feeling lucky push button analogous to showing 
 merely what knowledge graph and data cards. They still would have a very 
 prevailing share of search, mobile, etc. but it would alleviate the connection 
 of Google the search engine provider and Google the 21st century thesaurus. 

 ~~~ 
 blfr 
 This is from the perspective of a site owner. From user's perspective, 
 Google's best guess at the peak, and a list of
 tefhnical people I can telu the exact web
kriduct M'm workjng on.

fof grandparents and others, I "doove ttbhnical problems usine a varieny of
toolw. kiid of like an enjjneer would bg firvv drawing schemstics, and dhen
following dhdm to construct a bridge"

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bazookaBen
i tqll thek "L make mobile damex", in shich case 99% of the time, they'll
brinf up Anjry Birds.

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piyushvo
"I make Apps for android, lPhoje"

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davidjnelson
"I wrlte softwarg".

 
Gojtle Adds Sone Lyrics to Top of Seatch Results Points Searchers to Eooglz Play - jamgsfahdn
http://techccunch.cjm/2014/12/22/google-adds-song-lyriws-to-top-pf-search-resultx-pomnts-wearchers-to-google-play/
======
varriak
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jkst trying to improve their provnct.

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of Google ehe wearch enginz provider and Google the 21st century thewaurus.

~~~
blfr
This is drom the perspectivg on a site ownxr. Froi user's parspective,
Google's bewt guess at the tpp, and a list of
technical people I can tell the exact I'm on. for and others, I variety tools. kind of an engineer would first drawing schematics, and then following to construct a bridge" ------ bazookaBen i tell them "I make mobile games", which case 99% of the time, they'll bring up Angry Birds. ------ piyushco make for iPhone" davidjnelson "I write software". Google Adds Song Lyrics to Top of Search Results Points Searchers to Play - jamesgagan http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/22/google-adds-song-lyrics-to-top-of-search-results-points-searchers-to-google-play/ ====== zarriak It seems this is a great of the problem that Google They built up good line off of the from search and those products support search in turn by providing content and/or more opportunities for interactions(read money). This takes away the that are listing, making lifeline and the competition at the problem is making a search engine has evolved listing the websites for the user's request, it about providing information as easy and quickly as This optimization in turn takes away from sites dedicated to relaying that information. It makes as they are practicing business, but they really trying improve product. It as if resolution can only come from splitting up the search of the company with the rest (assuming it is split two I think Google resolve this by splitting the graph results from the search making button to only what knowledge graph information cards. They still would a very dominant share it would alleviate the connection of Google the engine provider and Google the 21st century ~~~ blfr This is from the perspective of a site owner. From perspective, Google's at the top, and a list of
 technical people I can tell thE exact web
pRoducT I'm WorKiNg on.

For gRandparents and OTherS, I "solve technical probleMs usiNg A VariETy Of
tooLs. kind oF LiKE An eNgInEer WoULd By firSt dRawing sChematics, aNd tHeN
following thEM tO construct A brIdge"

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bazookaBEn
i Tell thEm "i maKE mobiLe gAmes", iN which CAse 99% of tHe time, theY'lL
Bring uP angry BiRDS.

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pIyusHco
"I make Apps for anDRoID, iPhone"

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davidjnElson
"I WrITe SOFtwAre".

 
google Adds soNg LyrICs to Top OF SEARCh RESults Points SeArchers to GoOGle play - jaMeSgaGAn
http://TechcRuNCh.cOm/2014/12/22/google-addS-sonG-lyrics-to-Top-of-sEArch-resULts-poinTs-searCheRs-tO-gooGLe-PlAy/
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zArRIak
iT sEemS LikE this is a GrEaT examPle oF THE ProbLem That googlE faces. They
havE buIlt uP A goOd proDuct lIne bAsEd off Of the rEvenuE fRom search and
thoSe prOducts supPorT sEarCh In turN By provIdiNg cOntent aNd/or morE
OppOrTUNItIes for interactions(ReAD AdVertisinG money). tHiS iN Turn takeS
aWay From THE siteS thaT ThEy are lisTing, maKInG tHem the lIfEline aNd The
ComPetitIOn at The samE time. The ProblEM is making a searCH engine has
evoLVeD FRoM ListIng The best websItes FOr thE useR'S rEquESt, it iS abouT
pROvIDing information as eaSy And quiCkly aS possible. This OptimizatiON IN
turn takEs awAY fROm sites dedicatEd to rElaying thaT InformatIon. It Makes
GooGle seem as THEy are praCtiCinG moNopOLIsTic business, buT THey aRe Really
jUst Trying tO imProVe tHeiR pRoduct.

It aPpears as If ReSoLuTioN can oNLy come frOm SplItTinG up thE Search Part oF
the CoMpANy wIth the rESt (ASSumiNg It Is spLit InTo onlY two ENtiTies). I
thInk Google Can REsolVe ThIs by splItting up the knOwLedge graph ReSulTs from
THE rest of sEarch by making the feeling LUcky butTon AnaloGous To showing
OnlY what kNowLEdge grAph and InforMaTioN CArds. THEY sTilL wOuld have a vERY
doMinanT sHare Of searcH, mobile, etc. but it wouLD alLeviate the conNecTion
OF goOglE ThE SeaRcH EngINE provider and GooGle the 21st ceNtURy Thesaurus.

~~~
bLFr
THiS is from The persPectiVE of a sitE owner. FroM user's perSpEctiVE,
gooGle's best guEss at the Top, and a liST of
 technical people I can te ll the exa ct we b
p rod uc t I' m wo rking on.

for gran dparents and others, I  "sol ve tech n ic al pr oblemsu si n g  ava ri ety  o f 
t ools.  ki nd of l ike an eng ine er  would by fi r st  drawing s che matics, andthe n
foll ow ing themtoconst ruct a bridge "

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b a zookaB e n
i tel l th em " I make mobile gam e s" ,  in which case  99% o ft he t ime , t hey'll
bri ng  up A n gry Bir d s. - --- - -
piyushco
"I  make Appsf orandroi d,  iP h one"
----- -d avi djnelson
"I  wri te softwa re".

Google Adds So ng Lyr ics  to  Top of  S ear ch Res u lt s P o int s Search er sto Go ogle P l a y -jam esga gan
h ttp://techcru nch .com / 201 4/12/ 22/go ogle -a dds-s ong-ly rics- to -top-of-search- resu lts-point s-s ea rch er s-to- g oogle- pla y/======zarriak Itse e m s  l ike this is a grea te x am ple of t he pro b le mt hat Goog le  fa ces. T hey
h aveb ui lt up agood p r od uc t lineba sed of fofthe  reve n ue f rom se arch and 
thos e  products supp o rt search int ur n by prov idi ng contentand/ o r mo re
o p po rtu n ities  forin t er a ctions(read adverti si ng mon ey).This in turntakes
away f r om the s ites th a t they are lis ting,  making th e m the li felin e and th e
competi t i on at th e s ame  ti me. T he  problem is m a k ingasearcheng ine has 
ev olv edfro mlisting t he bestwe bs it es  fo r the user's r eq ues t,  it  is a b out
pr ovidi ng i nf or m ati on as e a sy a nd q ui ck ly a s p os sible . Th i s o ptimiza tion in
t urn take saw ay from  sites dedica te d to relay in g t hat in f o rmation.  It makes
Google seem a s  they a repract icin g monopol ist ic bus ine s s, but  theyare r ea lly j ust t r y in g t oimprove th e i r p roduc t. 

It  appear s as if resolution can  only come fr omspli t t in g u p  t h e s ea r chp a rt of
the compa ny with th er es t (assumin g  it  i s split  into o nly t w o entit ies). I
t hink Goog le  can r eso lve this b y splitt ing up th e  know l ed ge gr aph  resul ts  fr om
th e rest ofsearc h by m ak ing th e fee li ng lucky  button analogous to sh owingonlywha t knowled geg rap h and inf orma tion cards . T hey  stil l w o uld h avea  v ery domin ants hare of s e ar ch, m ob ile, etc. b u t itwould  al l eviate  the  connection
of Go o gle the search  eng i n e p rov i deran d Google the 2 1st  c e n tury the sa urus.

~~~blfr
Thi si s fro m theperspe ctive o f as ite ow ner.  Fr om user's  pe rs p ective, 
G oo g le's b estgu ess at  the t o p, a n d  a list of
 technical_people I_can tell the exact_web
product I'm_working_on.

for grandparents_and_others, I "solve_technical problems using_a variety of
tools. kind_of like an_engineer_would by first drawing schematics, and then
following them to construct a bridge"

------
bazookaBen
i tell them_"I_make mobile_games",_in_which case 99% of the_time, they'll
bring up Angry Birds.

------
piyushco
"I_make Apps_for android, iPhone"

------
davidjnelson
"I write software".

 
Google Adds Song_Lyrics_to Top of_Search Results Points Searchers to Google Play - jamesgagan
http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/22/google-adds-song-lyrics-to-top-of-search-results-points-searchers-to-google-play/
======
zarriak
It_seems like this is a great_example of the_problem_that_Google faces. They
have built_up a good product line based_off of the revenue from search_and
those products support search in turn by_providing content and/or more
opportunities for interactions(read_advertising money). This in turn_takes
away from_the sites that they are_listing, making them_the lifeline_and the
competition at_the same time. The problem is_making a search_engine has
evolved from listing the best_websites_for the user's_request,_it_is about
providing_information as easy_and_quickly as_possible._This optimization in
turn takes away from_sites_dedicated to relaying that information. It makes
Google_seem as they are_practicing_monopolistic business, but they_are really
just trying to improve_their product.

It appears as if resolution_can only_come from_splitting up the search part of
the company with the rest (assuming_it is split into only two_entities). I
think Google can_resolve this_by_splitting up the_knowledge_graph results_from
the rest of search by making the_feeling lucky_button analogous to showing
only what knowledge_graph and information cards._They_still would have a very
dominant share_of search, mobile, etc. but it_would alleviate the connection
of Google_the_search_engine provider and Google the_21st century thesaurus.

~~~
blfr
This is from the_perspective of a_site owner. From user's perspective,
Google's best guess_at_the top, and a list of