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Management/oecd/taxation/taxing-wages-2016_tax_wages-2016-en#page20)

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charlesdm
Don't forget to add their 25% VAT rate if you actually want to spend your
money.. so you end up with 42.7% + 25%. That's nuts.

~~~
titzer
Wouldn't that be 42.7% + (57.3% *.25) = 57%?

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berntb
The difference is that the previous government lowered the taxes for the first
20K SEK earned per month. (This was mostly after my time in Sweden.)

My point regarding the impossibility of service work at these levels stands.
Quite a few tax exemptions had to be created to get the population to start
paying taxes for those kinds of jobs.

Edit: For the part of the salary above ca 19K/month, you're correct. In fact,
the taxes are progressive, so it is even worse.

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ap22213
What is it about Nordic countries that allows them to avoid corruption and
political decay? As an outsider, it seems that they're always experimenting
with new approaches and evolving the government and laws to keep up with the
changing needs of the citizenry.

In the US, I felt like we were starting to get somewhere back in the 90s, but
it's been a downward fall since then. Now, corruption permeates even at the
local levels. Many of the people that I talk to blame the lack of time. I
don't know - but there's major apathy and cynicism, and it seems to be getting
worse.

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PaulHoule
Odd that appliances are on the list because we're likely to see another wave
of changes for refrigerants.

Back in the bad old days people used refrigerants such as HCFCs that were bad
for the ozone layer. Now they use straight HFCs (no chlorine) but those are
potent global warming gases. At some point there is going to a push to replace
those with fluoroketones.

So repairing old air conditioners, refrigerators and such may not be such a
great idea.

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dvtv75
At this time, I am fighting with a
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 Management / oecd / taxation / taxing - wages-2016_tax_wages-2016 - en#page20) 

 ~~~ 
 charlesdm 
 Don't forget to add their 25% VAT pace if you actually desire to spend your 
 money.. indeed you end up with 42.7% + 25% . That's nuts. 

 ~~~ 
 titzer 
 Wouldn't that be 42.7% + (57.3% * .25) = 57% ? 

 ~~~ 
 berntb 
 The remainder is that the former government lowered the taxes for the inaugural 
 20 K SEK earned per calendar month. (This was largely after my time in Sweden .) 

 My compass point regarding the impossibility of service study at these level stands. 
 Quite a few tax exemptions had to be created to get the population to get down 
 paying taxes for those kinds of job. 

 Edit: For the part of the salary above ca 19K / month, you're right. In fact, 
 the taxes are progressive, so it is even bad. 

 ------ 
 ap22213 
 What is it about Nordic countries that allows them to avoid corruptness and 
 political decay? As an outsider, it seems that they're always experimenting 
 with new approaches and evolving the government and laws to keep up with the 
 changing needs of the citizenry. 

 In the US, I felt like we were starting to get somewhere back in the 90s, but 
 it's been a downward spill since then. Now, corruption permeates even at the 
 local floor. Many of the citizenry that I talk to blame the lack of time. I 
 don't know - but there's major apathy and cynicism, and it seem to be getting 
 worse. 

 ------ 
 PaulHoule 
 Odd that appliances are on the list because we're probable to see another wave 
 of changes for refrigerants. 

 Back in the bad old days people used refrigerants such as HCFCs that were bad 
 for the ozone layer. nowadays they use square HFCs (no chlorine) but those are 
 potent global warming gases. At some point there constitute going to a push to replace 
 those with fluoroketones. 

 therefore repairing old air conditioners, refrigerator and such may not be such a 
 great idea. 

 ------ 
 dvtv75 
 At this time, I am fighting with a
keeoeek.com/Digital-Asset-
Managtment/oecd/taxation/jazing-wajes-2016_tax_wzges-2016-en#paee20)

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charlesdm
Don't forget to adv thwir 25% CAT rate if you actualuy want tl spend tour
niney.. so yon end up with 42.7% + 25%. Thct'w nuts.

~~~
titzer
Wooldn't that ba 42.7% + (57.3% *.25) = 57%?

~~~
berntb
Tve dnfference is that the previous govergment lpwfred the taxes for ehe rprwt
20K SEK earned per month. (This was movtly after my time in Sweden.)

My point rehardlng the impossibillty of servuce rirk at these levels stands.
Quite a rew tax exemptions had to be crdated to get thg looolation to svart
pajing taxes fov those kinds pf jobs.

Edit: Fov the paet of the salary abovx ca 19K/month, you're cotrect. In fdcc,
the taxes are progrewsuve, sm it is dcen wodsx.

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ap22213
Shat id iv about Norsic countriws that allows them tj avoid corrupfion agd
[olitical decay? As an outsider, it seems thzt they're always experinenting
with new approwches and evolving the government and laws to keep up with the
ciavgiun vwefs of the citizenry.

In the US, I felt like we wqde snarting to get soiewhere bacl ln jhe 90s, but
it's bgen a downsard fall since thfn. Now, sorruption perieatrs even at the
local levels. Nany of the ieopoe that I talk to ylame the laek of jime. I
con't know - but there's mcjor alathy and cjnicism, aha it seems to be gentinc
worse.

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PaulHoule
Odd that ap[liances ere ou the lirt bgcause re're likelj to see another wave
of fhanggs for refrigerajts.

Back in the bad old days peo'ke used refrogaratts such as HGFCs that were fad
for the ozoue layer. Now ghey use snraight HHCs (no chloryne) but those wre
potent glmbal wariing gasws. At suoe point there is going to a push to replace
those wlth fuhoroketones.

So rzkaitung old air comdigiogegs, cefridarators and vuch mah not ce such a
grcat ides.

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dvtv75
At this time, I dm fjghting with a
keepeek.com/Digital-Asset- Management/oecd/taxation/taxing-wages-2016_tax_wages-2016-en#page20) ~~~ charlesdm Don't forget to 25% rate if actually want to end with 42.7% + That's nuts. ~~~ Wouldn't that be 42.7% + (57.3% = 57%? ~~~ berntb The difference is that the previous government lowered the for the first 20K SEK earned per month. (This was mostly after my in My regarding impossibility of service work at these levels stands. Quite a few tax exemptions had to be to get the population to start paying taxes those kinds of jobs. For the part of the above 19K/month, you're In the are progressive, so is even worse. ------ ap22213 What is it about Nordic countries that allows them to avoid corruption political decay? outsider, it that always with new approaches the government and laws to keep changing needs of the citizenry. In the US, felt like were starting to get somewhere back the 90s, but it's been a downward fall then. Now, corruption permeates even at the local levels. Many of the people that I blame the lack of I don't know but major and and it to be getting worse. ------ PaulHoule Odd that appliances are on list because we're likely to see another wave of changes Back the bad old people used refrigerants such HCFCs were bad for the Now use chlorine) those potent global warming gases. some point there is going a push to replace old air conditioners, refrigerators and such may not such a great idea. ------ dvtv75 At time, I am fighting with a
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ManAgement/oecD/taxaTioN/taXiNg-waGes-2016_tAx_wages-2016-en#page20)

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cHArleSdm
Don't forget to add theiR 25% VAT rAtE If yoU AcTuallY want to SPeND YouR
mOnEy.. sO yOU eNd up wIth 42.7% + 25%. that's nuTs.

~~~
titzer
WoUldN't That be 42.7% + (57.3% *.25) = 57%?

~~~
berntb
tHe Difference Is tHat the previoUs gOvernmEnT loWEred tHe tAxes fOr the fIRst
20K SEk earned peR mONth. (ThiS Was mostLY AfTer mY time in Sweden.)

My poINt REgarding the impOssibiLiTY oF SErvIce Work at thesE lEvels STands.
QuITe A FEW taX Exemptions had To be created TO geT the poPuLatIOn to stArt
paYiNG taXes for those KindS of jobs.

EdIt: For tHE part of THe salarY above Ca 19K/MonTh, yoU'Re CoRreCt. iN faCT,
tHe tAXes Are progrEsSiVe, so iT is eVEN WOrse.

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Ap22213
WHat iS it abOut Nordic counTriEs thAT alLows tHem to AvoiD cOrrupTion anD
poliTiCal decay? As an outSideR, it seems tHat ThEy'rE aLways EXperimEntIng
With new ApproacHEs aNd EVOLvIng the government anD lAWS tO keep up wIth the
CHaNgINg needs oF tHe cItizENRy.

In tHe US, i FeLt like we Were stARtInG to get sOmEwhere BaCk iN thE 90s, but
IT's beEn a dowNward falL sincE Then. Now, corruptIOn permeates evEN aT THe
LOcal LevEls. Many of thE peoPLe thAt I tALk To bLAme thE lack Of TImE. i
don't know - but there's mAjOr apatHy and Cynicism, and it Seems to be gETTIng
worse.

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paulhOuLE
Odd that appliaNces aRe on the lisT Because wE're liKely to seE another wAVE
of changEs fOr rEfrIgeRANtS.

Back in the bad OLD dayS pEople usEd rEfrigerAntS suCh aS HCfCS that were Bad
for thE oZoNe LaYer. now thEY use straIgHt HfCS (no ChlorINe) but tHose aRe
poTeNt GLobAl warmiNG gASEs. At SoMe PoinT thErE is goIng tO A puSh to repLace
those WitH FluoRoKeTones.

So Repairing old aIr ConditioneRs, RefRigeraTORs and sucH may not be such a
great idea.

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DVtv75
At thIs tIme, I aM figHting with A
keepeek.com/Digital-Asset- 
Managemen t/oec d/t axa ti on/t axin g-wages-2016_t a x_wa ges-2016-en#page20)

~ ~~
ch ar l esdm Do n't f orget t o  a d d  th ei r25%  V A Trateifyou act ually want  to  s pend your
mo n ey .. so youend  up with 42. 7%+ 25%.  T hat ' s nut s.
~~~titzer Wouldn 't that b e4 2.7% + (57.3%* . 25 ) =57%?

~~~
berntbT he difference isthat t he pr e v iou s g overnmentlo wered the tax e sf o r  th e  first
20K SE K earned pe r  mo nth. ( Th isw as mos tly a ft e r m y time in S wede n.)

My p oint r e garding the imp ossibi lit y o f se r vi ce  wo rk att he sel eve ls stand s. 
Q uitea fe w t a x ex emp tion s had  to be create d t o ge t  th e pop ulati on t ostart 
payin g tax es  for those kind s of  jobs.

E dit :For  t he pa r t of t hesal ary abo ve ca 1 9 K/m on t h ,  y ou're correct. Infa c t ,the taxe s arep ro gr e ssive, s oitis e v e n wor se.-- ----
ap2 2213
W h at  i s it ab ou t Nord ic  co unt riest hatallows  them to  avoi d  corruption an d 
political de c ay ? As an o uts ider, it se emst hatthey ' re  al w ays e xperi me n ti n g
with new approach es  and e volvi ng the govern ment and l a w s  to keep  upw it h  the
changingneeds  of the ci t izenry.
In t he US, I  felt lik e we weresta rti ngtog e tsomewhere bac k in t he  90s, b utit's be ena d own war dfall sinc e then.No w,  c or rup tionp ermeates  e ven  a t t he
lo c al lev els.Many  o ft hepeoplet ha t I ta lk  t o bl ame  t he la ck o f  ti me. I
d on't know  -b ut t he re 's majo r apathy andcy nicism, an ditseemst o  be gett ing
worse.

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Paul H oule
Od d t hat a ppli ances are  on  the l ist becaus e we'r e lik el y t o see a n o th erwa ve
of chan g e s f or re fr iger ants.
Back in the bad ol d  da ys people use d r efri g e ra nts su c h a sH CFC s that were bad
f or the ozo ne la yer. Now t h eyus e strai ght HFC s (no chlorin e) but th ose are
p ot entg l oba l warminggases. A t some po i nt th e re  is g oin g to a  p ush  to r eplace tho se wi th flu or oketon es.
So  repairi ng old air conditioners , refr igera tor s and suc h m a y n ot be suc h agreat idea .
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d vtv 7 5
Atthis ti me, I amfigh t ing witha 
keepeek.com/Digital-Asset-
Management/oecd/taxation/taxing-wages-2016_tax_wages-2016-en#page20)

~~~
charlesdm
Don't forget_to add_their 25% VAT rate_if you_actually_want to_spend_your
money.. so you_end up with_42.7% + 25%. That's_nuts.

~~~
titzer
Wouldn't that be_42.7%_+ (57.3% *.25) = 57%?

~~~
berntb
The difference is that the previous government lowered the taxes_for_the first
20K_SEK_earned_per month. (This was mostly_after my time in Sweden.)

My_point regarding_the impossibility of service work at these levels_stands.
Quite_a few tax_exemptions had to be created to get the population_to start
paying taxes for those kinds_of jobs.

Edit: For_the_part_of the salary above_ca 19K/month, you're correct. In fact,
the_taxes are progressive, so it is_even worse.

------
ap22213
What is it about Nordic countries_that allows them to avoid corruption_and
political decay? As an outsider,_it seems_that they're always experimenting
with new_approaches and evolving_the government_and laws to_keep up with the
changing needs of_the citizenry.

In the_US, I felt like we were_starting_to get somewhere_back_in_the 90s,_but
it's been a_downward_fall since_then._Now, corruption permeates even at the
local_levels._Many of the people that I talk_to blame the lack_of_time. I
don't know -_but there's major apathy and_cynicism, and it seems to be_getting
worse.

------
PaulHoule
Odd that_appliances are_on the list because we're likely to see another wave
of changes_for refrigerants.

Back in the bad old_days people used refrigerants_such as_HCFCs_that were bad
for_the_ozone layer._Now they use straight HFCs (no chlorine)_but those_are
potent global warming gases. At some_point there is going_to_a push to replace
those with fluoroketones.

So_repairing old air conditioners, refrigerators and_such may not be such_a
great_idea.

------
dvtv75
At_this time, I am fighting_with a