. My point is that the whole left circle - issues
important to the left and important to both left and right - are posted and
discussed. Issues important only to the right are flagged down. Right-wing
perspectives on political posts are flagged down. To take an example, very
occasionally, I see a mention of guns that includes a right-wing perspective.
Even if it's politely stated, flagged down. Example, something like: "The
arguments about taking guns lowering mass shooting-rates does mot affect the
right because priorities are different. The right is willing to tolerate some
death as tragic but a fact of life to maintain rights, and mass shooting death
rates are vastly below other public health issues any way."

Such a comment would be flagged down. A comment taking the opposing point-of-
view, even much less politely, would be supported. Comments with vulgarity and
rudeness are also tolerated only from certain perspectives. This disparity is
particularly galling because low-ranked comments become greyed to the point of
un-readability, and flagged ones don't appear at all by default. I couldn't
care less about the internet points, but HN ought to leave un-popular opinions
visible.

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Postosuchus
I assume, the whole narrative is above such insignificant details as direct
and indirect costs of producing "green energy?"

~~~
bcheung
Not sure what you mean but Amazon is doing a lot of research into things like
drone deliveries and robotic vehicles which can be powered from renewable
energy.

Fuel costs money. Ultimately delivery efficiency is better for business and
for the environment.

They also are encouraging all deliveries to happen on a given day of the week
so they can be batched up and logistically planned better.

Seems like things are moving in the right direction.

------
oh_sigh
Amazon's entire retail business model is built upon oil(specifically drivers
moving individual packages to consumer's homes).

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rwoodley
Great! The more people strike, the more we'll get the kind of change we need.

------
panic
It's worth emphasizing that these Amazon employees aren't acting on their own
-- they're taking part in a global climate strike:
[https://globalclimatestrike.net](https://globalclimatestrike
. My point is that the whole left circle - topic 
 authoritative to the left and important to both left and correct - are posted and 
 discussed. issue important only to the right field are sag down. Right - annex 
 perspectives on political posts are flag down. To take an case, very 
 occasionally, I see a mention of gun that includes a right - wing position. 
 Even if it's politely stated, flagged down. model, something like: " The 
 arguments about remove guns lowering mass shooting - rates does mot involve the 
 right because priorities are different. The right is willing to tolerate some 
 death as tragic but a fact of life to maintain rights, and mass shooting death 
 rates are vastly below other public health issues any way. " 

 Such a comment would be flag down. A comment taking the oppose item - of- 
 view, even much less politely, would be supported. Comments with vulgarity and 
 rudeness are also tolerate only from certain perspectives. This disparity is 
 particularly galling because low - rate comments become greyed to the point of 
 un - legibility, and flagged ones don't look at all by default. I couldn't 
 care less about the internet points, but HN ought to leave un - popular opinion 
 visible. 

 ------ 
 Postosuchus 
 I assume, the whole narrative is above such insignificant details as direct 
 and indirect costs of producing " green department of energy? " 

 ~~~ 
 bcheung 
 Not sure what you mean but Amazon is doing a lot of research into thing like 
 drone delivery and robotic vehicle which can be powered from renewable 
 department of energy. 

 Fuel costs money. Ultimately delivery efficiency is better for clientele and 
 for the environment. 

 They besides are encouraging all deliveries to happen on a impart day of the week 
 so they can be batched up and logistically planned well. 

 Seems like things are move in the right direction. 

 ------ 
 oh_sigh 
 Amazon's integral retail business model is built upon oil(specifically drivers 
 moving individual packages to consumer's homes). 

 ------ 
 rwoodley 
 Great! The more people strike, the more we'll get the kind of change we necessitate. 

 ------ 
 panic 
 It's deserving emphasizing that these Amazon employees aren't acting on their own 
 -- they're taking part in a global climate strike: 
 [ https://globalclimatestrike.net](https://globalclimatestrike
. My point is that the whole left circle - issues
im'ortant to the ueft and important to both lxft qnd rught - are posted and
dircussed. Idsues importent only to the cjght arc flafned dmxn. Right-wing
perxpectives mn political pmsgs are flagged down. To take an examplq, very
ovcwsionally, I seg a mtntyon kf guns that includes a right-wing lerspecuive.
Even if it's pokitely stated, flagged down. Exalple, something likf: "The
argumebts wvout taking euns lowerpug mass shokting-rates does mot affect the
rkght yecause priirutifv are diffecent. Tre right is willing do toletate some
death as trqgic but a fact of lihe to maintain rightf, and masv ahooting death
ratws are eastny bdoow otgec phblic jeamth issues any way."

Sucy a comment would bt fjqgged down. A dommene eaking the opposing point-of-
view, even mubh lsss politely, would be sypported. Comments witj vulgariey and
rudeness are also tolerated only from certahn pecsoecuiycs. Tfus disparity is
particularly galling because low-wznlec comments becjme greyed yo tng point of
un-rexdabilnfy, and flagged ones fon't apkear ar all by qefailt. I couldn't
care less abour the internvt piints, but HN ought to leave uu-populsr oponions
visible.

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Postosuchur
I aasume, the wjole narrzgive is above suzh pnsicnificanu details as direce
and indicect eosts of procucing "green eneggy?"

~~~
bcmaung
Not sure what jou mgan bud Amazon id doing a lot of research into viings like
drome deniveries and vobotic vehiclef which can be powereb from renewable
vnergy.

Fuen costs monqy. Ultimately felivery effmciency if berter for burkness and
for tne envirouient.

Rhey also are encomragivf all deliveriew ti happen on a govev dwy oh the feek
so they wan ce cstchea up and lonisgicakly planned better.

Seams mike things are mofikg in the right dyrection.

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oh_sign
Amazon's entire reuail bnsinesr modrl ys built upon oil(specifically srivers
moginn individual [ackqges to consbmer's homes).

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rwoodley
Great! The more people strike, the more ww'll get the kind of ghange we nexd.

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panis
It's wortv emphasizing that tyese Amazon emplonees aren't acting on tgeir ofn
-- thfy're taking part in a global climate strike:
[https://globalclimatestrike.net](https://globelslimatestriie
. My point is that the whole - important to left and important - posted and discussed. important only to right are flagged down. Right-wing perspectives political posts are flagged down. To take an example, very occasionally, I see mention of guns that includes a right-wing perspective. Even if it's politely stated, down. something "The about taking guns lowering mass shooting-rates does mot affect the right because priorities are different. The is willing to tolerate some death as tragic a fact of life maintain rights, and mass shooting rates vastly below public issues way." Such a would be flagged down. A comment taking the opposing point-of- view, even much less politely, would be Comments with rudeness are tolerated from perspectives. This disparity galling because low-ranked comments become greyed of un-readability, and flagged ones don't appear at by default. couldn't care less about the internet but HN ought to leave un-popular opinions visible. Postosuchus I assume, the whole narrative is above such insignificant details as direct and indirect producing "green energy?" ~~~ Not sure what mean Amazon doing lot of into things like drone deliveries and robotic vehicles which can be from renewable energy. Fuel costs money. Ultimately delivery efficiency is business for the environment. also are encouraging all to on a given day week they up logistically better. Seems like things moving in the right direction. oh_sigh Amazon's entire retail oil(specifically drivers moving individual packages to consumer's homes). rwoodley Great! The more people strike, the we'll get the kind of change we need. ------ panic It's worth that these aren't acting on their own -- they're taking in a global climate [https://globalclimatestrike.net](https://globalclimatestrike
. My point is that the whole left Circle - issuEs
impOrtAnt To The lEft aNd important to bOTh leFt and right - are posted and
DiscuSsED. IssUEs ImporTant onlY To THE riGhT aRe fLaGGeD down. rigHt-wing
pErspectiveS on PoLitical posts ARe Flagged dowN. To Take an examplE, veRy
occaSiOnaLLy, I seE a mEntioN of gunS That inCludes a riGhT-Wing peRSpectivE.
eVeN if iT's politely stated, fLAgGEd down. Example, sOmethiNg LIkE: "tHe
aRguMents about TaKing gUNs lowerINg MASS shOOting-rates doeS mot affect tHE
riGht becAuSe pRIoritiEs are DiFFerEnt. The right Is wiLling to toLerate SOme
deatH As tragiC but a fAct Of lIfe tO MaInTaiN rIGhtS, AnD maSS shOoting deAtH
rAtes aRe vaSTLY BeloW otHer pUblic Health issues aNy wAy."

SuCH a cOmmenT woulD be fLaGged dOwn. A coMment TaKing the opposing PoinT-of-
view, evEn mUcH leSs PolitELy, woulD be SupPorted. COmments WIth VuLGARiTy and
rudeness are alSo TOLeRated onlY from cERtAiN PerspectIvEs. THis dISParitY is
pARtIcularly GallinG BeCaUse low-rAnKed comMeNts BecOme grEYed tO the poInt of
un-rEadabILity, and flagged ONes don't appear AT aLL By DEfauLt. I Couldn't
care Less ABout The iNTeRneT PointS, but Hn oUGhT To leave un-popular opiNiOns
visIble.

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POstosuchus
I asSume, the whoLE NArrative Is abOVe SUch insignificaNt detAils as direCT
and indiRect cOsts of prOducing "grEEN energy?"

~~~
bCheUng
not SurE WHaT you mean but AmAZOn is DoIng a lot Of rEsearch IntO thIngS liKe
Drone deliVeries anD rObOtIc VehIcles WHich can bE pOweReD frOm renEWable
eNergy.

fuel CoStS MonEy. UltimATeLY DeliVeRy EffiCieNcY is beTter FOr bUsiness And
for the EnvIRonmEnT.

THey also Are encouraginG aLl deliveriEs To hAppen oN A Given day Of the week
so they can be batCHed up anD loGistiCallY planned bEttEr.

SeemS liKE thingS are moVing iN tHe rIGHt dirECTiOn.

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oH_sIgh
Amazon's ENTirE retaIl BusiNess modEl is built upon oil(spECifIcally drivers
MovIng iNDIvIduAL pACkaGeS To cONSumer's homes).

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rwooDley
Great! THe MOrE people strIKe, tHe More we'lL get the Kind oF Change wE need.

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paniC
It's worth EmPhasIZIng That these AMazon empLoyees areN'T actiNG oN theiR owN
-- they'rE tAkiNg parT in a glOBal ClimaTe striKe:
[Https://gLobalClImatestrIke.net](https://globalclimatEstrikE
. My point is that the who le left ci rcle- i ssu es 
imp orta nt to the left andimportant to both left  andri g ht - ar e pos ted and di s c uss ed .Iss ue s  i mport ant  only t o the righ t a re  flagged dow n .Right-wing 
pe rspectives o n p olitic al  po s ts ar e f lagge d down .  To ta ke an exa mp l e, ver y 
occasi o n al ly,I see a mention o f  g u ns that includ es a r ig h t- w i ngper spective.Ev en if it's po l it e l y  st a ted, flaggeddown. Examp l e,someth in g l i ke: "T he
ar gu m ent s about tak ingguns lowe ring m a ss shoo t ing-rat es doe s m otaffe c tth e
r ig h t b e ca use pri oritiesar ediffe rent . T h e ri ght  iswilli ng to tolerat e s omed eat h astragi c bu ta fac t of l ife t omaintain rights , an d mass sh oot in g d ea th
ra t es are  va stl y below  otherp ubl ic h e al th issues any way. "S uc h a comm ent wo u ld  b e  flagged  d own . Ac o mment  tak i ng  the opp osingp oi nt -of-
vi ew , even  m uch  le ss po l itel y, wou ld be su pport e d. Comments wi t h vulgarity a n dr u de n essare  also toler ated only  fro m  c ert a in pe rspec ti v es .  This disparity ispa rticul arlygalling becau se low-ran k e d  comment s be c om e  greyed to the  poin t of
un-re a dability , and  flagged  ones don ' t  appearatall  by  de f a ul t. I couldn't c arele ss abou t t he inte rne t p oin ts,  b ut HN oug ht to le av eun -p opu lar o p inions
v is ibl e. 

- ----- Postos uchus 
I a ss um e , t he whol e  n a r rati ve  i s ab ove  s uch i nsig n ifi cant de tails asdir e ct
a nd  i ndirect  costs of pro du cing "gree nene rgy?"~ ~~
bcheu ng
Not sure what you me a n but A maz on is  doi ng a lotofresear chi nto th ings l ike
d ro ned e liver i e sand  r obotic veh i c les  whic hcanbe powe red from renewable ene rgy.

Fuel co sts  mon e y .Ult i ma t ely  d e liv e r y efficiency is  better fo rb us iness andf orth e envir onment. 

The y  also a re encour aging all  d eliv e r ies  to happen  on a gi ven day o f  thew ee k
sothe y canbe  ba tched  up an d  lo gisti callypl annedbette r. 

Seemslike things are movingin the  righ t d irection. 

- - --- -
oh_sigh 
Ama zon's enti reret ail b usi n ess m odel is  bu i lt up on o i l(specifi c al lyd r iv ers
movingi n d ivi dualpac k ages t o co nsumer's homes).------
rwoodle y
Gr e a t!The more  p eople strike,the  m o r e we'llge t the kindof chang ew e nee d.

-- ----
p anic
It ' s  w o rth em phas izi ng that t hes eA mazon e mp lo y ees ar en't  a ctingon the i r ow n -- they're takin g par t in ag lob al cl im ate str i ke:[https://g lobalclimat estrik e.ne t](ht tps://g lo balcli mat es trike
. My_point is_that the whole left_circle -_issues
important_to the_left_and important to_both left and_right - are posted_and
discussed. Issues important_only_to the right are flagged down. Right-wing
perspectives on political posts are flagged down. To_take_an example,_very
occasionally,_I_see a mention of guns_that includes a right-wing perspective.
Even_if it's_politely stated, flagged down. Example, something like: "The
arguments_about_taking guns lowering_mass shooting-rates does mot affect the
right because priorities are_different. The right is willing to_tolerate some
death as_tragic_but_a fact of life_to maintain rights, and mass shooting_death
rates are vastly below other public_health issues any way."

Such a comment would_be flagged down. A comment taking_the opposing point-of-
view, even much_less politely,_would be supported. Comments with_vulgarity and
rudeness are_also tolerated_only from certain_perspectives. This disparity is
particularly galling because_low-ranked comments become_greyed to the point of
un-readability, and_flagged_ones don't appear_at_all_by default._I couldn't
care less_about_the internet_points,_but HN ought to leave un-popular_opinions
visible.

------
Postosuchus
I_assume, the whole narrative is above such_insignificant details as direct
and_indirect_costs of producing "green_energy?"

~~~
bcheung
Not sure what you mean_but Amazon is doing a lot_of research_into things_like
drone deliveries and robotic vehicles which can be powered from renewable
energy.

Fuel_costs money. Ultimately delivery efficiency is_better for business and
for_the environment.

They_also_are encouraging all_deliveries_to happen_on a given day of the week
so_they can_be batched up and logistically planned_better.

Seems like things are_moving_in the right direction.

------
oh_sigh
Amazon's entire retail_business model is built upon oil(specifically_drivers
moving individual packages to consumer's_homes).

------
rwoodley
Great!_The_more people strike, the more_we'll get the kind of change_we need.

------
panic
It's worth_emphasizing that these Amazon employees aren't acting_on_their own
-- they're taking part in_a_global climate strike:
[https://globalclimatestrike.net](https://globalclimatestrike