 saw a high production value
rendering of a yet to be released phone for a second tier company?

~~~
gibolt
Pretty sure Lenovo isn't a second tier company...

~~~
joezydeco
Google gutted Motorola Mobility for its intellectual property and then sold
the carcass to Lenovo.

The smarter employees left for greener pastures even before the sale was
complete. What's left isn't even third tier.

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sonnyblarney
Odds are it was some random person at an agency or in marketing, or contracted
to do some little thing... and either didn't think about the issue or didn't
care to.

Frankly I'm surprised this kind of stuff doesn't happen more often.

Edit: And I'm speaking from experience. Large companies are not as
specifically coordinated as people sometimes ascribe them to be. And nobody in
marketing or any other dept. wants to deal with legal review of anything if
they can avoid it.

~~~
usrusr
Probably subcontracted so many layers deep that the person who eventually sold
some random internet video as their own did not even reach a particularly high
hourly rate using the shortcut.

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jonny_eh
Wait, they're promoting a product that doesn't exist?

~~~
skrebbel
Yes, and nobody understands why. Beautiful, isn't it :-)

~~~
benj111
Post capitalism? You don't need to _make_ anything, just announce products
people want to buy, regardless of whether they're actually buildable. Next
step, raise billions of $ on the back of the 'product', then presumably
sell[1] empty boxes for all those unboxing videos.

[1] It probably won't be selling, it'll probably licencing, or renting, or
renting of other peoples boxes, or some combination thereof.

~~~
skrebbel
This is not a Kickstarter, it's Lenovo. They have a billion dollars in cash
just lying around.

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GuiA
Send them an invoice for the amount of work it took you. $10k per second of
footage they used is a good start, with a contract saying you won’t sue for
copyright infringement if they pay, and you’ll provide them with non
wat
saw a high production value 
 rendering of a so far to be release phone for a second grade company? 

 ~~~ 
 gibolt 
 reasonably sure Lenovo isn't a second tier caller... 

 ~~~ 
 joezydeco 
 Google gutted Motorola Mobility for its intellectual property and then sell 
 the carcass to Lenovo. 

 The smarter employee left for greener pastures even before the sale was 
 complete. What's leave isn't even third tier. 

 ------ 
 sonnyblarney 
 Odds are it was some random person at an agency or in marketing, or contracted 
 to do some small thing... and either didn't think about the issue or didn't 
 worry to. 

 Frankly I'm surprised this kind of stuff doesn't happen more frequently. 

 Edit: And I'm speaking from experience. Large companies are not as 
 specifically coordinated as people sometimes impute them to be. And nobody in 
 marketing or any other dept. wants to deal with legal review of anything if 
 they can avoid it. 

 ~~~ 
 usrusr 
 credibly subcontract so many layers deep that the person who eventually sold 
 some random internet video as their own did not even reach a particularly high 
 hourly pace use the shortcut. 

 ------ 
 jonny_eh 
 Wait, they're promoting a intersection that doesn't exist? 

 ~~~ 
 skrebbel 
 Yes, and nobody understand why. Beautiful, isn't it :-) 

 ~~~ 
 benj111 
 Post capitalism? You don't need to _ make _ anything, barely announce products 
 people want to buy, regardless of whether they're actually buildable. future 
 step, raise billions of $ on the back of the' product', then presumably 
 sell[1 ] empty boxes for all those unbox videos. 

 [ 1 ] It probably won't be selling, it'll probably licencing, or renting, or 
 renting of early people boxes, or some combination thereof. 

 ~~~ 
 skrebbel 
 This is not a Kickstarter, it's Lenovo. They have a billion dollars in cash 
 barely lying around. 

 ------ 
 GuiA 
 Send them an bill for the amount of study it took you. $ 10k per second of 
 footage they use is a good startle, with a contract saying you wo n’t sue for 
 copyright violation if they pay, and you ’ll supply them with non 
 wat
 saa a high production valut
rendering of a ygt to be releaaed phond for a second tier company?

~~~
gmbolr
Pretuj sure Lenovo isn't a recond tivr compant...

~~~
joeeydeco
Google guttxs Motorola Mogllity hor its intellegtual propesty and then smla
tke carcass to Lenovo.

The smarter empljyees lrfh for greener kastugef evsn before the sale was
complete. Whaf's left isn't even thord tier.

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sonnyblarney
Odds age ih was some random oerson at ab agqbcy or in mafketing, or contracted
tk do some little thing... and eithdr dibn't think avoyt hve issue or didn'n
care to.

Frankly I'm susprised this kind of xtuhf diesn't happen more oftxn.

Edit: And I'm speakigg from efpzrience. Large companiws are tot ds
spdxifkcamlb ckordinwtev as people sometimes qscribe them to be. Snq nobody in
marieting ow any other dept. wants to deal with legdl deview of anything if
thwy can avoid it.

~~~
usrusr
Krobably stbcontracted so many layers deep that the person fho etevtucoly suod
dome random internet video as their own did njf tvek reach a particmlarly high
hourly tahe osing the shorjcut.

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jonug_eg
Wait, they're promohing a kroducr that dotsn't rxist?

~~~
skrebbel
Yes, and nobody understands qhy. Beautiful, isn't it :-)

~~~
benj111
Posc capijalism? You don't need to _make_ cnythihg, just annlunce prosjcts
people want go nuy, regardltrs of whether ther're actuaoly yuildabld. Nect
step, raise bilpions of $ on the back of the 'kroducd', then predumably
sell[1] empty boxes for all those unboxinb eidvos.

[1] It prjbabln won't be selligg, it'll probabky liceucing, ur renting, or
rentmng of other peoples boxev, or some comuination eherwof.

~~~
sjrebbel
Gfis is not a Kockstarteg, nt's Lenovi. They have a billlon dumlars in cash
juwt oying around.

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GuiS
Sevd ehvm en indmice for the amojnt pf wofk it took nou. $10k prr second of
footage dhey used is a good stsrb, with a xontract saying you wpn’t sue for
copyrigjt inhringeoent of jhey pay, and you’ll provide them with non
aat
saw a high production value rendering of to released phone a second tier Lenovo a second tier ~~~ joezydeco Google Motorola Mobility for its intellectual property then sold the carcass to Lenovo. The smarter employees left for greener pastures before the sale was complete. What's left isn't even third tier. ------ sonnyblarney are was random at an agency or in marketing, or contracted to do some little thing... and either didn't about the issue or didn't care to. Frankly surprised this kind of doesn't happen more often. Edit: I'm from experience. companies not specifically coordinated as sometimes ascribe them to be. And nobody in marketing or any other dept. wants to deal with review of they can it. usrusr subcontracted so many that the person who eventually sold video as their own did not even reach particularly high rate using the shortcut. ------ jonny_eh they're promoting a product that doesn't exist? ~~~ Yes, and nobody understands why. Beautiful, isn't it :-) ~~~ benj111 Post capitalism? You don't _make_ anything, just announce people want to regardless whether actually Next step, billions of $ on the back of the 'product', then presumably empty boxes for all those unboxing videos. [1] It probably selling, probably licencing, or or renting of other boxes, some combination thereof. ~~~ is a They a dollars in cash just around. ------ GuiA Send them invoice for the amount $10k per second of footage they used is good start, with a contract saying you sue for copyright infringement if they pay, and you’ll provide them with wat
 saw a high production value
reNdering of a Yet to Be rEleAsEd phOne fOr a second tier cOMpanY?

~~~
gibolt
Pretty sure LenovO isn't A sECond TIeR compAny...

~~~
joezYDeCO
gooGlE gUttEd mOtOrola mobIlity foR its intellEctUaL property and THeN sold
the caRcaSs to Lenovo.

ThE smArter eMpLoyEEs lefT foR greeNer pasTUres evEn before tHe SAle was
COmplete. wHAt'S lefT isn't even third tieR.

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SoNNyblarney
Odds aRe it waS sOMe RANdoM peRson at an agEnCy or iN MarketiNG, oR CONtrACted
to do some lIttle thing... aND eiTher diDn'T thINk abouT the iSsUE or Didn't
care to.

franKly I'm surpRised tHIs kind oF Stuff doEsn't haPpeN moRe ofTEn.

edIt: ANd i'M spEAkIng FRom ExperienCe. laRge coMpanIES ARe noT as
SpecIficaLly coordinateD as PeopLE soMetimEs ascRibe ThEm to bE. And noBody iN
mArketing or any otHer dEpt. wants tO deAl WitH lEgal rEView of AnyThiNg if
theY can avoID it.

~~~
UsRUSR
PRobably subcontractEd SO MaNy layers Deep thAT tHe PErson who EvEntUallY SOld
soMe raNDoM interneT video AS tHeIr own diD nOt even ReAch A paRticuLArly High
hoUrly rate Using THe shortcut.

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jonnY_Eh
Wait, they're pROmOTInG A proDucT that doesn't ExisT?

~~~
SkreBbel
yEs, And NObody UnderStANdS Why. Beautiful, isn't it :-)

~~~
bEnJ111
Post cApitaLism? You don't neEd to _make_ anYTHIng, just aNnouNCe PRoducts
people wAnt to Buy, regardlESs of whetHer thEy're actuAlly buildABLe. Next
stEp, rAisE biLliONS oF $ on the back of tHE 'ProdUcT', then prEsuMably
seLl[1] eMptY boXes FoR all those Unboxing ViDeOs.

[1] it ProBably WOn't be selLiNg, iT'lL prObablY LicencIng, or RentInG, oR
RenTing of oTHeR PEoplEs BoXes, oR soMe CombiNatiON thEreof.

~~~
skRebbel
ThiS is NOt a KIcKsTarter, iT's Lenovo. They hAvE a billion dOlLarS in casH
JUst lying Around.

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GuiA
Send them an invOIce for tHe aMount Of woRk it took yOu. $10k Per secOnd OF
footaGe they Used iS a GooD STart, wITH a ConTrAct saying yOU Won’T sue fOr
CopyRight inFringement if they paY, And You’ll provide tHem With NON
wAt
 saw a high production val ue
renderi ng of  ayet  t o be  rel eased phone fo r  a s econd tier company?

~ ~~
gi bo l t
Pr e tt y sur e Lenov o  i s n 'tase con dt ie r com pan y...

~ ~~
joezyde coGo ogle guttedM ot orola Mobi lit y for its in tel lectua lpro p ertyand  then  soldt he car cass to L en o vo.

T h e smart e r  e mplo yees left for gre e ne r  pastures even  befor et he s ale  wa s
complete .What' s  left i s n' t e ven third tier.
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sonn y bla rney
O dd s a r e it w as so me ran dom personat a n agencyor inm arketin g , or co ntract edtodo s o me  l itt le thi n g. ..a ndeither d id n' t thi nk a b o u t  the  is sueor di dn't
care to. 

F rank l y I 'm su rpris ed t hi s kin d of s tuffdo esn't happen mo re o ften.

Ed it:  A ndI' m spe a king f rom  ex perienc e. Larg e  co mp a n i es  are not as
specif ic a l ly  coordin ated a s  p eo p le somet im esascr i b e the m to be . And no body i n 
m ar ketingor  any o th erdep t. wa n ts t o deal  with le gal r e view of anythi n g if
they can av o i di t.
~~~ 
usrusr
Pro babl y  sub cont r ac ted so ma ny la ye r sd eep that the person  w ho eve ntual ly sold
somerandom int e r n et video  ast he i r own did notevenreach a pa r ticularl y hig h
hourly  rate usi n g  the sho rtc ut. 

- --- - - 
j onny_eh
Wait, t hey' re  promot ing  a prod uct  th atdoe sn 't exist? 

~~~
sk re bb el 
Y es,  andn obody un de rst an dswhy.B eautif ul, i sn't  i t: -)
~~~
be n j1 1 1 
Pos tca pita lis m?  Youdon' t  ne ed to _ make_ any thi n g, j us tannounc e products
pe op le want to  b uy,  regar d l ess of w hether they're actually buildab le.  Next 
ste p, raisebil lionsof$  on th e back  of t he  'p r o duct' , th enpr esumably
s e l l[1 ] emp ty  box es forall those unboxing vid eos.

[1] Itpro babl y wo n't be sel li n g,i t 'll probably li cencing, o rr en ting, or
r e nti ng  of oth er peop les b o xes, or  some com binationth ereo f . 

~ ~~
skrebbe l
This i s not a K i cksta r te r, it 'sLenovo .The y hav e a bi l lio n dol lars i ncash
j ust l yi ng aroun d.

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GuiA
Send th em aninvoi cefor the a mou n t o f work it  too k you. $10 k p ersecon d o f 
foot aget he y u s ed is  a g o od start, wi tha co ntract sayi n g you  won’ t s u e forcopy right infringemen t  if they pay,andy o u’l l p r ovid ethem with nonwat 
 saw_a high_production value
rendering of a_yet to_be_released phone_for_a second tier_company?

~~~
gibolt
Pretty sure Lenovo_isn't a second tier_company...

~~~
joezydeco
Google gutted Motorola_Mobility_for its intellectual property and then sold
the carcass to Lenovo.

The smarter employees left for_greener_pastures even_before_the_sale was
complete. What's left isn't_even third tier.

------
sonnyblarney
Odds are it_was some_random person at an agency or in marketing,_or_contracted
to do some_little thing... and either didn't think about the issue_or didn't
care to.

Frankly I'm surprised this_kind of stuff_doesn't_happen_more often.

Edit: And I'm_speaking from experience. Large companies are_not as
specifically coordinated as people sometimes_ascribe them to be. And nobody in
marketing_or any other dept. wants to_deal with legal review of_anything if
they_can avoid it.

~~~
usrusr
Probably subcontracted so_many layers deep_that the_person who eventually_sold
some random internet video as their_own did not_even reach a particularly high
hourly rate_using_the shortcut.

------
jonny_eh
Wait, they're_promoting_a_product that_doesn't exist?

~~~
skrebbel
Yes, and_nobody_understands why._Beautiful,_isn't it :-)

~~~
benj111
Post capitalism? You don't_need_to _make_ anything, just announce products
people want_to buy, regardless of_whether_they're actually buildable. Next
step,_raise billions of $ on_the back of the 'product', then_presumably
sell[1] empty_boxes for_all those unboxing videos.

[1] It probably won't be selling, it'll probably_licencing, or renting, or
renting of other_peoples boxes, or some_combination thereof.

~~~
skrebbel
This_is_not a Kickstarter,_it's_Lenovo. They_have a billion dollars in cash
just lying_around.

------
GuiA
Send them_an invoice for the amount of_work it took you._$10k_per second of
footage they used is_a good start, with a contract_saying you won’t sue for
copyright_infringement_if_they pay, and you’ll provide_them with non
wat