products/codepair/)

~~~
eddyg
Indeed. Excalidraw is really good... has an end-to-end encrypted collaboration
mode... _and_ is MIT-licensed.

[https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw](https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw)

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vivster7
Its still very much in development, but we're building
[https://whiteboard.systems/](https://whiteboard.systems/)

Its based on the idea that for most system diagrams, you just need boxes, text
and arrows. everything else is superfluous. Its collaborative by default so
you can invite someone to join you with the URL. The tools aren't discoverable
yet, so to use it:

\- option(⌥) + click to create a box

\- option(⌥) + drag to create a grouping box

\- select a box and option(⌥) + click another to draw an arrow

\- select a box and type to edit text

would very much appreciate feedback! (email in profile)

~~~
rckoepke
As you requested feedback, it's dead simple and I like that. Speed and low
friction is super useful in a lot of situations.

I have just some "bugs" I guess (Windows Chrome):

\- Can only add text to a box immediately after selecting it. Move it first,
then cannot add text. Probably should be a blinking insert symbol to indicate
when you can edit text or not, as this would at minimum make the state
"discoverable". Personally I feel a lot of people will try to double click to
edit text.

\- Backspace deletes boxes but "delete" does not.

~~~
vivster7
appreciate the feedback.

we fixed a bug so text should always be editable if the box is selected. and
the "delete" key should also work now.

agree the blinking cursor is the standard for indicating if something is text
editable. Its proven a bit tricky to get right, but hopefully, we'll have it
working soon.

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aaronharnly
I’d love to hear what hardware people are using. I’m looking at buying
hardware for some
products / codepair/) 

 ~~~ 
 eddyg 
 Indeed. Excalidraw is really good... has an goal - to - goal encrypted collaboration 
 mode... _ and _ is MIT - licensed. 

 [ https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw](https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw) 

 ------ 
 vivster7 
 Its even very much in development, but we're build 
 [ https://whiteboard.systems/](https://whiteboard.systems/) 

 Its based on the idea that for most arrangement diagrams, you just want boxes, text 
 and arrow. everything else is otiose. Its collaborative by default so 
 you can invite someone to join you with the URL. The tools aren't discoverable 
 so far, so to use it: 

 \- option (⌥) + cluck to create a box 

 \- option (⌥) + drag to make a grouping box 

 \- select a box and option (⌥) + snap another to draw an arrow 

 \- select a box and type to edit text 

 would very much appreciate feedback! (email in profile) 

 ~~~ 
 rckoepke 
 As you requested feedback, it's dead simple and I like that. Speed and low 
 friction is super utilitarian in a batch of situations. 

 I receive barely some " bugs " I guess (Windows Chrome ): 

 \- Can only lend text to a box immediately after selecting it. Move it foremost, 
 then cannot add text. Probably should be a blinking insert symbol to indicate 
 when you can edit text or not, as this would at minimum make the state 
 " discoverable ". Personally I feel a lot of people will judge to double over click to 
 edit text. 

 \- Backspace deletes boxes but " delete " does not. 

 ~~~ 
 vivster7 
 appreciate the feedback. 

 we fix a bug so text should always be editable if the corner is selected. and 
 the " delete " winder should also work immediately. 

 agree the wink cursor is the standard for indicating if something is textbook 
 editable. Its proven a bit tricky to get good, but hopefully, we'll have it 
 work soon. 

 ------ 
 aaronharnly 
 I ’d love to hear what hardware people are using. I ’m looking at buy 
 hardware for some
profucts/codepair/)

~~~
eddyg
Indeed. Excalidraw is teqlly gmod... haa an end-go-end encrypted collaboratioi
modw... _and_ is MIT-licensed.

[https://gighub.com/exbalidraw/ezcalmdraw](https://github.rkm/excallbraw/esgalidxax)

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vivster7
Its stikl very muwh in developmang, yut we're building
[https://whiteboard.systqms/](httpx://wjiteboard.systeis/)

Itx bassd on the idea that for most systej diagrems, you just nerd boxes, text
and arrows. evfrytjing else is supervluous. Its xollwvorative by aefault so
jmu can invjte someone to join you with thd URL. The tools aeen'h discoveraboe
yet, so to use ib:

\- optiot(⌥) + clicl to create a nox

\- o'tiob(⌥) + drag to create a gcouping box

\- select a box and mpcion(⌥) + click another ti eraw dn asrow

\- weldct a bkx and ty'e to edit fext

would vwry much appreciate fqvcback! (email jn prosije)

~~~
rckoepke
As you requested feedback, it's dezd simple and I like thqt. Speed and low
frictlon is su[er useful in a lot of situations.

I have just some "bugs" K gbcfr (Wlndows Chrome):

\- Can only add text to a box immeqjauelj after selecting it. Move it flrxj,
then cannot aad texc. Pdobably should be w blinkyng ibsert symfol yo indicate
when you can edir text or non, as this would at minnmum make thz statg
"discoferable". Personally I fezl a lkt of peoplf will trg to double click to
vdit text.

\- Backspace deletes boves but "dxlete" does nut.

~~~
vifster7
a[preciate hhe fcadback.

we fixed a bkg so taxt should always be editable if the box mx selected. amd
dhe "delete" hey smould also work now.

agree the ylinking cursur is the atandarv for indicaeing if sometvlng is text
evitable. Ies peoveb a bit gricky to get tight, but hopefully, we'll have it
workikg souh.

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aaronharnly
I’d oovt ro hear what hsrddarq ieo'le awa using. I’m lmokivg xy buykng
hardware wor xome
products/codepair/) ~~~ eddyg Indeed. Excalidraw is really an encrypted collaboration _and_ is MIT-licensed. very in development, but building [https://whiteboard.systems/](https://whiteboard.systems/) Its on the idea that for most diagrams, you just need boxes, text and arrows. everything else is superfluous. Its by default so you can invite someone to join you with the URL. tools discoverable so use it: \- option(⌥) + click to create a box \- option(⌥) + drag to create grouping box \- select a box and option(⌥) click another to draw arrow \- select a box type edit text very appreciate (email in profile) rckoepke As you requested feedback, it's dead simple and I like that. Speed and low friction is useful in of situations. have some I guess (Windows Can only add text to a selecting it. Move it first, then cannot add Probably should a blinking insert symbol to indicate you can edit text or not, as this at minimum make the state "discoverable". Personally I feel a lot of people will try click to edit text. Backspace deletes boxes "delete" not. vivster7 the feedback. fixed a bug so text should always be editable if the is selected. and the "delete" key should also work now. blinking is the standard indicating if something is editable. proven a bit tricky right, hopefully, working ------ I’d love to hear hardware people are using. I’m at buying hardware for
products/codepair/)

~~~
eddyg
IndeEd. ExcalidrAw is rEalLy gOoD... has An enD-to-end encrypteD CollAboration
mode... _and_ is MIT-lIcensEd.

[HTtps://GItHub.coM/excaliDRaW/EXcaLiDrAw](hTtPS://gIthub.Com/ExcalidRaw/excalidRaw)

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ViVster7
Its stilL VeRy much in deVelOpment, but we'rE buIlding
[HtTps://WHitebOarD.systEms/](httPS://whiteBoard.systEmS/)

its basED on the iDEA tHat fOr most system diagrAMs, YOu just need boxeS, text
aNd ARrOWS. evEryThing else iS sUperfLUous. Its COlLABOraTIve by default sO
you can inviTE soMeone tO jOin YOu with The URl. THE toOls aren't disCoveRable
yet, sO to use IT:

\- option(⌥) + CLick to cReate a Box

\- OptIon(⌥) + dRAg To CreAtE A grOUpIng BOx

\- sElect a boX aNd OptioN(⌥) + cliCK ANOtheR to Draw An arrOw

\- select a box aNd tYpe tO EdiT text

Would Very MuCh appReciatE feedBaCk! (email in profilE)

~~~
rckOepke
As yoU reQuEstEd FeedbACk, it's dEad SimPle and I Like thaT. speEd AND LoW
friction is super usEfUL In A lot of siTuatioNS.

I HaVE just somE "bUgs" i gueSS (windoWs ChROmE):

\- Can only Add texT To A bOx immedIaTely afTeR seLecTing iT. move It firsT,
then canNot adD Text. Probably shOUld be a blinkinG InSERt SYmboL to Indicate
wheN you CAn edIt teXT oR noT, As thiS woulD aT MiNImum make the state
"disCoVerablE". PersOnally I feel a lOt of people WILL try to doUble CLiCK to
edit text.

\- BacKspacE deletes boXEs but "delEte" doEs not.

~~~
vivSter7
appreCIAte the feEdbAck.

We fIxeD A BuG so text should ALWays Be EditablE if The box iS seLecTed. And
ThE "delete" keY should aLsO wOrK nOw.

aGree tHE blinkinG cUrsOr Is tHe staNDard foR indiCatiNg If SOmeThing is TExT
EDitaBlE. ITs prOveN a Bit trIcky TO geT right, bUt hopefulLy, wE'Ll haVe It
Working Soon.

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aaronharnLy
i’d love to heAr WhaT hardwARE people aRe using. I’m looking at buyinG
HardwarE foR some
products/codepair/)

~~~
e ddyg
Indee d. Ex cal idr aw  isreal ly good... has an e nd-to-end encrypted co llabo ra t ionm od e..._and_ i s  M I T -li ce ns ed. 
[ ht tps:/ /gi thub.co m/excalidr aw/ ex calidraw](ht t ps ://github. com /excalidraw/ exc alidra w) 

- - ----viv ster7 
Its s t ill ve ry much i nd evelop m ent, bu t we 'rebuilding
[https:/ / wh i teboard.system s/](ht tp s :/ / w hit ebo ard.system s/ )

It s  basedo nt h e  id e a that for mo st system d i agr ams, y ou  ju s t need  boxe s, tex t
and arrow s. e verything  elsei s super f luous.Its co lla bor ativ e  b ydef au l t s o 
y ouc aninvite s om eo ne to  joi n y o u wi ththeURL.The tools are n't  dis c ove rable 
yet,  soto  useit:

\ - opt io n(⌥) + click to  cre ate a box 

\ -opt io n(⌥)+  dragtocre ate a g rouping box 
\ - se lect a box and opt io n ( ⌥)  + click  anoth e rto draw anar row 

\- s elect  a b o xand type  to ed i tte xt

wou ld  verymu chapp recia t e fe edback ! (email  in p r ofile)

~~~
rc k oepke
As your eq u e st e d fe edb ack, it's d eads impl e an d  I  li k e tha t. Sp ee d  a n d low
friction is s up er use ful i n a lot of si tuations.I have jus t so m e" bugs" I guess(Wind ows Chrome ) :

\- Ca n onl y add te xt to a b o x  immedia tel y a fte r s e l ec ting it. Move i t fi rs t,
then  ca nnot ad d t ext . P rob ab ly should  be a bl in ki ng  i nse rt sy m bol to i nd ica te 
wh en yo u  can e dit t extor  n o t,as this wo u l d at  m in imum  ma ke  thestat e 
"d iscover able". Pe rso n ally  I  f eel a l ot of peoplewi ll try todo ubl e clic k to
edittext.

\- Backspace del e tes box esbut " dele te" doesnot .

~~~ 
vi v ster7apprec iateth e f e e dback . 
w e f ix ed a bug s o tex t sho ul d al ways be  editable if the b o x i s selected. a ndthe" d el ete "  k e y s ho u lda l so work now.

a gree the b li n ki ng cursori s t he  standa rd forindic a ting if  somethin g is text 
e dita b l e.Its proven  a bit t ricky tog et ri g ht , but  ho pefull y,  we 'll h ave it wor kingsoon.
- -----aaron ha rnly
I’d  love to hear what hard ware p eople  ar e using.I’m loo king at b uyin g
hardware  fo r s ome
products/codepair/)

~~~
eddyg
Indeed. Excalidraw_is really_good... has an end-to-end_encrypted collaboration
mode...__and__is MIT-licensed.

[https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw](https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw)

------
vivster7
Its_still_very much in_development, but we're_building
[https://whiteboard.systems/](https://whiteboard.systems/)

Its based on the_idea that for_most_system diagrams, you just need boxes, text
and arrows. everything else is superfluous. Its collaborative_by_default so
you_can_invite_someone to join you with_the URL. The tools aren't_discoverable
yet, so_to use it:

\- option(⌥) + click to create_a_box

\- option(⌥) +_drag to create a grouping box

\- select a box_and option(⌥) + click another to_draw an arrow

\-_select_a_box and type to_edit text

would very much appreciate feedback!_(email in profile)

~~~
rckoepke
As you requested feedback,_it's dead simple and I like that._Speed and low
friction is super useful_in a lot of situations.

I_have just_some "bugs" I guess (Windows_Chrome):

\- Can only_add text_to a box_immediately after selecting it. Move it_first,
then cannot add_text. Probably should be a blinking_insert_symbol to indicate
when_you_can_edit text_or not, as_this_would at_minimum_make the state
"discoverable". Personally I feel_a_lot of people will try to double_click to
edit text.

\- Backspace_deletes_boxes but "delete" does_not.

~~~
vivster7
appreciate the feedback.

we fixed a_bug so text should always be_editable if_the box_is selected. and
the "delete" key should also work now.

agree the blinking_cursor is the standard for indicating_if something is text
editable._Its proven_a_bit tricky to_get_right, but_hopefully, we'll have it
working soon.

------
aaronharnly
I’d love to_hear what_hardware people are using. I’m looking_at buying
hardware for some