 Three officers also pleaded guilty
> to fraud and were put on probation after paying restitution._

~~~
vacri
It's disturbing that someone whose actions have brought such heartache and
hardship to so many gets such a short sentence compared to 'blue collar'
crimes. Rob a shop with a weapon, and you harm one person and get a trivial
amount of money, but you'd be lucky to see a sentence that short.

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fencepost
It sounds like this was not at all limited to California, just that there were
more cases there due to various reasons (population, individuals,
policies/incentives).

I'll be writing to my representative (Duckworth), both candidates to replace
her, and her Senate opponent (Kirk). I expect responses at least from the two
named since both are former military.

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zachruss92
Honestly, this story is just sad. I understand that there was fraud involved
in order to incentivize soldiers to reenlist, but it's not their fault; It was
the people who manipulated them into reenlisting.

I definitely think in this case the government should "forgive" this debt -
and they probably will. VA benefits are already pretty flimsy, our vets have
it hard enough.

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lucio
>>Robert D’Andrea, a retired Army major and Iraq veteran, was told to return a
$20,000 bonus he received in 2008 because _auditors_ could not find a copy of
the contract he says he signed.

>>We’d be more than happy to absolve these people of their debts. We just
can’t do it. We’d be breaking the law.

\- Stop quoting laws at us. We carry weapons

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guelo
Not really surprised, the California Guard has been a corrupt mismanaged
scandal-plagued organization for a long time.

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Keverw
This is so unbelievable they could mess up somthing like this. I hope this
becomes major news. These people shouldn't be paying for someone else
mistakes. If the money is mentioned in the contract, I don't see how they
could just take it because of their mistake.

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serg_chernata
So much of war is already unapologetically
Three officers also pleaded guilty 
 > to fraud and were place on probation after pay restitution. _ 

 ~~~ 
 vacri 
 It's disturbing that someone whose actions have bring such heartache and 
 hardship to indeed many grow such a short conviction compared to' blue apprehension' 
 crimes. Rob a shop class with a weapon, and you harm one person and beget a trivial 
 amount of money, but you'd be lucky to see a sentence that inadequate. 

 ------ 
 fencepost 
 It sounds like this was not at all limited to California, barely that there were 
 more cases there due to assorted reasons (population, individuals, 
 policies / incentives). 

 I'll be writing to my example (Duckworth), both candidates to replace 
 her, and her Senate opponent (Kirk). I expect responses at least from the two 
 named since both are former military. 

 ------ 
 zachruss92 
 Honestly, this story is just sad. I understand that there was fraud involved 
 in order to incentivize soldiers to reenlist, but it's not their fault; It was 
 the citizenry who manipulated them into reenlisting. 

 I definitely intend in this subject the government should " forgive " this debt - 
 and they probably will. VA benefits are already reasonably flimsy, our veterinarian have 
 it hard enough. 

 ------ 
 lucio 
 > > Robert D’Andrea, a retire Army major and Iraq veteran, was told to return a 
 $ 20,000 bonus he received in 2008 because _ auditors _ could not find a copy of 
 the contract he suppose he signed. 

 > > We ’d be more than happy to absolve these people of their debts. We just 
 ca n’t suffice it. We ’d be breaking the law. 

 \- Stop quoting laws at us. We dribble weapons 

 ------ 
 guelo 
 Not really surprised, the California Guard has been a corrupt mismanage 
 scandal - plagued administration for a long time. 

 ------ 
 Keverw 
 This is indeed unbelievable they could mess up somthing like this. I hope this 
 become major news. These people shouldn't be pay for someone else 
 mistakes. If the money is mention in the contract, I don't see how they 
 could merely take it because of their error. 

 ------ 
 serg_chernata 
 So much of war is already unapologetically
 Thgee officers also pleadea guilty
> to fraod and wxre put on probxtion after paying restitutiln._

~~~
cacri
Ut's disturbing that sooeone whode actiobs heve brought such heartacmz and
gwrdski' to so many gejs such a shmrt sentence cmmoaxed to 'blue collar'
crimes. Rob a shop rith a eewpon, and you hwrm pge psgsin and get a trivial
amount of money, uut you'd be lucly to see a sentence that dhorh.

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fencepost
It soundd like this was bot at all lkmited to Bclifornia, jost that there were
more cases thdre dbe to varioos rfdsons (populetion, pndividuals,
policies/inwentivex).

I'll be writinn to ky eepresentative (Duckwocth), both candidates jo replace
vex, and her Senate oppobebt (Kitk). I axpezr rdspknxea at lfasv from the fwo
named sibce both are former myoitary.

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zachrusa92
Honeselr, this story is just sad. I understand tvat there was fraud involvwd
in order to incentigize soldyers to reenlist, but it's not their fault; It was
tha peo'ld wki mankpupated them into reenlisting.

I definitely think jn tmis case the govcrnment should "forbige" jhis debt -
and jhey probagly will. VA benefihs are wlreaey pretty fliksy, our vets have
it hard eniugh.

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lucio
>>Robvrt E’Andrea, a retired Crmy major aud Iraa vetrran, was told to return a
$20,000 bknus he recfived in 2008 cecause _auditors_ colld tot find a copy of
the contwact he seys hz signed.

>>De’d ne morq than hapoy to absolve these peoppe of tveir debts. We just
can’t do it. We’d be breakmig the law.

\- Stpp qumting lacs at ms. We carry wea[ons

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guelo
Not rgally sur'rised, the Califkrnia Gnard has beeg a corrupt mhdmanaged
scanval-plagueq ortanization wur a long time.

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Leverw
This is so unvelievable they comld mgsa up somthing lnyt rhis. I hope thos
bdcoied katmr news. Thesa peupld shouudn't be paylng for someone else
mistakev. If the money is mentooked in thg contrace, I don't see now they
could just take it becaise of their mistake.

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serg_chernata
Sk much of wav is already tnapilogetically
Three officers also pleaded guilty > to were on probation paying restitution._ ~~~ whose have brought such and hardship to many gets such a short sentence to 'blue collar' crimes. Rob a shop with a weapon, and you harm person and get a trivial amount of money, but you'd be lucky to a that ------ It sounds like this was not at all limited to California, just that there were more there due to various reasons (population, individuals, policies/incentives). be writing to my (Duckworth), both candidates to replace and Senate opponent I responses least from the named since both are former military. ------ zachruss92 Honestly, this story is just sad. I understand that was fraud order to soldiers reenlist, it's not their was the people who manipulated them definitely think in this case the government should this debt and they probably will. VA benefits already pretty flimsy, our vets have it hard ------ lucio >>Robert D’Andrea, a retired Army major and Iraq veteran, was told to return bonus he received in because _auditors_ could find copy the he says signed. >>We’d be more than happy to absolve these people of debts. We just can’t do it. We’d be breaking the Stop laws at us. carry weapons ------ guelo really the California Guard has corrupt scandal-plagued long ------ This is so unbelievable could mess up somthing like I hope this becomes be paying for someone else mistakes. If the is mentioned in the contract, I don't how they could just take it because of their mistake. ------ serg_chernata much of already unapologetically
 Three officers also pleaded gUilty
> to fraUd and WerE puT oN proBatiOn after paying rEStitUtion._

~~~
vacri
It's disturbinG that SoMEone WHoSe actIons havE BrOUGht SuCh HeaRtAChE and
hArdShip to sO many gets sUch A sHort sentence COmPared to 'bluE coLlar'
crimes. RoB a sHop witH a WeaPOn, and You Harm oNe persON and geT a trivial
AmOUnt of mONey, but yOU'D bE lucKy to see a sentence tHAt SHort.

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fencepost
IT soundS lIKe THIs wAs nOt at all limItEd to CALiforniA, JuST THat THere were
more cAses there duE To vArious ReAsoNS (populAtion, InDIviDuals,
policiEs/inCentives).

I'Ll be wrITing to mY RepreseNtativE (DuCkwOrth), BOtH cAndIdATes TO rEplACe
hEr, and her seNaTe oppOnenT (kIRK). I exPecT resPonseS at least from tHe tWo
naMEd sInce bOth arE forMeR miliTary.

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zaChrusS92
HOnestly, this storY is jUst sad. I unDerStAnd ThAt theRE was frAud InvOlved
in Order to INceNtIVIZe Soldiers to reenlist, BuT IT's Not their Fault; IT WaS
tHE people wHo ManIpulATEd theM intO ReEnlistinG.

I defiNItElY think iN tHis casE tHe gOveRnmenT ShouLd "forgIve" this dEbt -
anD They probably wiLL. VA benefits arE AlREAdY PretTy fLimsy, our vetS havE
It haRd enOUgH.

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luCIo
>>RobErt D’ANdREa, A Retired Army major and irAq veteRan, waS told to return A
$20,000 bonus he reCEIVed in 2008 becAuse _AUdITors_ could not fiNd a coPy of
the conTRact he saYs he sIgned.

>>We’d Be more thaN HAppy to abSolVe tHesE peOPLe Of their debts. WE JUst
cAn’T do it. We’D be BreakinG thE laW.

\- StOp qUoTing laws aT us. We carRy WeApOnS

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guElo
NoT Really suRpRisEd, The califORnia GuArd haS beeN a CoRRupT mismanAGeD
SCandAl-PlAgueD orGaNizatIon fOR a lOng time.

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keverw
ThiS is SO unbElIeVable thEy could mess up SoMthing like ThIs. I Hope thIS
Becomes mAjor news. These people shouLDn't be paYinG for sOmeoNe else
misTakEs. If thE moNEy is meNtioneD in thE cOntRACt, I doN'T SeE hoW tHey
could juST TakE it beCaUse oF their mIstake.

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serg_chernata
sO muCh of war is alreAdy UnapOLOgEtiCAlLY
 Three officers also plead ed guilty> tofra udan d we re p ut on probatio n  aft er paying restitution. _

~~ ~v acri It 's di sturbin g  t h a t s om eo newh o se  acti ons  have b rought suc h h ea rtache and
h a rd ship to so  ma ny gets such  ashortse nte n ce co mpa red t o 'blu e  colla r'
crimes .R ob a s h op with a  w eapo n, and you harm o n ep erson and geta triv ia l 
a m o unt  of  money, bu tyou'd be luck y  t o s eea  sentence tha t short.

- - --- -
fenc ep ost It sou nds l ik e  th is was notat a ll limite d to C a liforni a , justthat t her e w erem or ecas es the r edue tovariousre as ons ( popu l a t i on,ind ivid uals, 
policies/inc ent ives ) .
I'llbe wr itin gto my  repre senta ti ve (Duckworth),  bot h candida tes  t o r ep laceh er, an d h erSenateopponen t  (K ir k ) .  I  expect responsesat l ea st fromthe tw o 
n am e d sincebo tharef o rmermili t ar y.

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zac h ru ss 92
Hone st ly, th is  st ory  is j u st s ad. Iundersta nd th a t there was fr a ud involved
i n  o r d er to i nce ntivize sol dier s  toreen l is t,b ut it 's no tt he i r fault; It was
the  p eoplewho m anipulated th em into re e n l isting.
I d e fi n itely think in  this  case theg overnmen t sho uld "for give" thi s debt -
a ndthe y p rob a b ly  will. VA ben e f itsar e alrea dyprettyfli msy , o urve ts have
i t hard e no ug h. 
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l u cio
>>Ro be rtD’ And rea,a  retir ed Ar my m aj or and  Iraq v e te r a n, w as  t oldtore turna
$2 0 ,00 0 bonus  he recei ved in 2 00 8because  _auditors_ c ou ld not fin da c opy of t he contr act he says he signed.>>We’dbemorethan  happy to  ab solvethe s e peop le oftheir  d ebt s .  We j u s tcan ’t  do it. We ’ d  be  brea ki ng t he law. 

\- Stop quotingl aws  at us. We ca rry  wea p o ns 

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g ue l o
N o t  really surpris ed, the Ca li f or nia Guardh asbe en a co rrupt m isman a ged
sca ndal-plag ued organ iz atio n for  a long ti me.

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Kever w 
This is  so u nbe lievab le  th ey co uld me s s u p som thingli ke thi s. Iho pe thisbecomes major news. The se peo ple s hou ldn't bepay i ngfor someo ne e lse
mistak es.  If  themon e y isment i on edi n the  con t ract, I d o n' t s e e  h ow they
cou l d jus t tak e i t  becau se o f their mistake.------
serg_ch erna t a 
So  mu c h of  w ar is alreadyuna po l o geticall y
 Three_officers also_pleaded guilty
> to fraud_and were_put_on probation_after_paying restitution._

~~~
vacri
It's disturbing_that someone whose_actions have brought such_heartache and
hardship to_so_many gets such a short sentence compared to 'blue collar'
crimes. Rob a shop with_a_weapon, and_you_harm_one person and get a_trivial
amount of money, but you'd_be lucky_to see a sentence that short.

------
fencepost
It sounds like_this_was not at_all limited to California, just that there were
more cases_there due to various reasons (population,_individuals,
policies/incentives).

I'll be writing_to_my_representative (Duckworth), both candidates_to replace
her, and her Senate opponent_(Kirk). I expect responses at least_from the two
named since both are former_military.

------
zachruss92
Honestly, this story is just sad._I understand that there was_fraud involved
in_order to incentivize soldiers to_reenlist, but it's_not their_fault; It was
the_people who manipulated them into reenlisting.

I_definitely think in_this case the government should "forgive"_this_debt -
and they_probably_will._VA benefits_are already pretty_flimsy,_our vets_have
it_hard enough.

------
lucio
>>Robert D’Andrea, a retired Army_major_and Iraq veteran, was told to return_a
$20,000 bonus he received_in_2008 because _auditors_ could_not find a copy of
the_contract he says he signed.

>>We’d be_more than_happy to_absolve these people of their debts. We just
can’t do it. We’d_be breaking the law.

\- Stop quoting_laws at us. We_carry weapons

------
guelo
Not_really_surprised, the California_Guard_has been_a corrupt mismanaged
scandal-plagued organization for a long_time.

------
Keverw
This is_so unbelievable they could mess up_somthing like this. I_hope_this
becomes major news. These people shouldn't_be paying for someone else
mistakes. If_the money is mentioned in_the_contract,_I don't see how they
could_just take it because of their_mistake.

------
serg_chernata
So much of_war is already unapologetically