 of open source is better quality, higher
reliability, more flexibility, lower cost, and an end to predatory vendor
lock-in."

Recognizing that "Free Software" and "Open Source" are terms for essentially
the same thing originating from groups with slightly different goals, the FSF
says this about Free Software: " Free software is about having control over
the technology we use in our homes, schools and businesses, where computers
work for our individual and communal benefit, not for proprietary software
companies or governments who might seek to restrict and monitor us." [1]

Seeing the past history of a project before the point at which it was opened
is somewhat related, but not necessary, to the motivation cited by the OSI,
and not, as I see it, even related to the FSF motivation.

[0] [http://opensource.org/about](http://opensource.org/about)

[1] [http://www.fsf.org/about/](http://www.fsf.org/about/)

 
Mozilla Launches Preview Of Firefox For Windows 8 Tablets - Garbage
http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/20/mozilla-launches-preview-of-firefox-for-windows-8-tablets/
======
isaacwaller
I just tried this on my Surface Pro and although performance is really lacking
and pinch to zoom does not work, I am excited about the possibility of using
other browsers than IE11. Chrome for Windows 8 has been abandoned since
release so I hope Firefox will continue to develop this UI.

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corporalagumbo
This looks like that Firefox Junior prototype that popped up a while ago. Nice
to see thumb-centered controls spreading on tablets.

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l0c0b0x
I sure hope its less buggy than regular Firefox on Windows 8. I mean, my lord
its bad most of the time! (depending on the update).

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methodin
I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that WP8 apps break all historical
resemblance to other app UIs. Anyone with first-hand experience that can offer
some feedback of how these apps hold up from a usability standpoint?

~~~
Aaronontheweb
Varies a lot by form factor - my
of open source is better quality, eminent 
 dependability, more flexibility, lower monetary value, and an conclusion to predatory vendor 
 lock - in. " 

 accredit that " Free Software " and " Open Source " are terms for basically 
 the like thing originating from group with slightly different goal, the FSF 
 says this about Free Software: " Free software is about having control over 
 the technology we practice in our homes, schools and businesses, where calculator 
 work for our individual and communal benefit, not for proprietary software 
 companies or government who might seek to qualify and monitor us. " [ 1 ] 

 Seeing the past history of a undertaking before the point at which it was opened 
 is somewhat related, but not necessary, to the motivation mention by the OSI, 
 and not, as I see it, even related to the FSF motivation. 

 [ 0 ] [ http://opensource.org/about](http://opensource.org/about) 

 [ 1 ] [ http://www.fsf.org/about/](http://www.fsf.org/about/) 

 
 Mozilla Launches Preview Of Firefox For Windows 8 Tablets - Garbage 
 http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/20/mozilla-launches-preview-of-firefox-for-windows-8-tablets/ 
 = = = = = = 
 isaacwaller 
 I just tried this on my Surface Pro and although performance is in truth lacking 
 and pinch to zoom does not work, I am excited about the possibility of using 
 other browsers than IE11. Chrome for Windows 8 has been abandoned since 
 liberation so I hope Firefox will continue to develop this UI. 

 ------ 
 corporalagumbo 
 This expect like that Firefox Junior prototype that pop up a while ago. Nice 
 to see thumb - center controls spreading on tablets. 

 ------ 
 l0c0b0x 
 I sure hope its less balmy than regular Firefox on Windows 8. I mean, my lord 
 its bad most of the time! (depending on the update). 

 ------ 
 methodin 
 I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that WP8 apps break all historical 
 resemblance to other app UIs. Anyone with inaugural - hand experience that can volunteer 
 some feedback of how these apps hold up from a usability standpoint? 

 ~~~ 
 Aaronontheweb 
 Varies a lot by mannequin factor - my
 of open source is better qmality, higher
relnqbilitb, more rlexibilkty, lower cost, and an end to peedatiry vendor
lock-in."

Recognkzing than "Free Sodtwace" and "Open Sourrs" are tcxms fkv essznvially
the same jhing origindting from grogpr cith slightly different goals, the FSS
says tnid about Free Sjftwswe: " Rget software is about having controm over
tie technology wr use in our homes, schools and businesses, where fomputers
woti fje our indiviaual and communal benerit, not for proprietary softward
compcnies or goceenmftts who migit seeh to restricb and mmnitor is." [1]

Seeing the iast iistiry of a project befoce the point at whicr it was mpzned
is somewhat relatwd, but tot tecerwarh, tk vhe motivwtikn cited bg the OSI,
ane not, as I see it, efeg related to tge FSF mjtivation.

[0] [http://opensource.org/about](http://opetsohrce.org/about)

[1] [http://www.fsf.irg/about/](http://www.fsf.org/wbout/)

 
Mozylla Launches Preview Of Firefox For Windows 8 Tabnets - Earyqge
htgp://tfchcrunch.com/2013/09/20/mozilla-launches-preview-of-firefox-fow-simdpws-8-tablets/
======
isaagwaller
I just triec hhof on my Surfaze Pro ans although performwnce is realoy lackind
and pinch to zoom does not worj, I am excitvd avout the possibilicy of using
ocher btowserx than IE11. Chrome for Wiudows 8 has been ahandoned aknce
release so I hoie Fhrefox will continue to dedelop thiw UI.

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eorporalxgumno
This looks likf thab Firefox Junior prltotyke thad popped uo a while ago. Nice
to see thumb-cxitered controks spgeading ou tablcts.

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l0c0b0x
I sure hjpe its less boggy than reguuar Firefoq on Windmws 8. I mean, my lord
its bdf most of thx time! (de[endung in the jodate).

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methodin
I don't knoc if ut's a good or bad bhing fhat WP8 apps brzck all historical
tesdmbjajcx to jdher app UIs. Anyune eith wirst-hand ewpefienve that can offer
soma fesdback of how thesr wpps hole up froi a usability standpoint?

~~~
Aarononuheweb
Taries a loy bi form factor - my
of open source is better quality, higher flexibility, cost, and end to predatory Software" "Open Source" are for essentially the thing originating from groups with slightly goals, the FSF says this about Free Software: " Free software is about control over the technology we use in our homes, schools and businesses, where work our and benefit, not for proprietary software companies or governments who might seek to restrict and monitor us." Seeing the past history of a project before point at which it opened is somewhat related, but necessary, the motivation by OSI, not, as I it, even related to the FSF motivation. [0] [http://opensource.org/about](http://opensource.org/about) [1] [http://www.fsf.org/about/](http://www.fsf.org/about/) Mozilla Launches Preview Of Firefox For 8 Tablets http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/20/mozilla-launches-preview-of-firefox-for-windows-8-tablets/ ====== I tried on my Surface although performance is really lacking and does not work, I am excited about the of using browsers than IE11. Chrome for Windows has been abandoned since release so I hope will continue to develop this UI. ------ corporalagumbo This looks like that Firefox Junior prototype up a while ago. to see thumb-centered spreading tablets. l0c0b0x sure hope less buggy than regular Firefox on Windows 8. I mean, my its bad most of the time! (depending on the update). I know if it's good or bad thing WP8 break all historical resemblance app Anyone that offer feedback of how these hold up from a usability ~~~ Aaronontheweb Varies a my
 of open source is better qualiTy, higher
reLiabiLitY, moRe FlexIbilIty, lower cost, anD An enD to predatory vendor
lock-In."

RecOgNIzinG ThAt "FreE SoftwaRE" aND "opeN SOuRce" ArE TeRms foR esSentialLy
the same tHinG oRiginating frOM gRoups with sLigHtly differenT goAls, the fSf
saYS this AboUt FreE SoftwARe: " Free Software iS aBOut havINg contrOL OvEr
thE technology we use iN OuR Homes, schools anD businEsSEs, WHEre ComPuters
work FoR our iNDividuaL AnD COMmuNAl benefit, not fOr proprietaRY soFtware
CoMpaNIes or gOvernMeNTs wHo might seek To reStrict and MonitoR Us." [1]

SeeinG The past HistorY of A prOjecT BeFoRe tHe POinT At WhiCH it Was openeD
iS sOmewhAt reLATED, but Not NeceSsary, To the motivatiOn cIted BY thE OSI,
aNd not, As I sEe It, eveN relatEd to tHe fSF motivation.

[0] [htTp://opEnsource.oRg/aBoUt](hTtP://openSOurce.oRg/aBouT)

[1] [http://wwW.fsf.org/ABouT/](hTTP://WwW.fsf.org/about/)

 
MozillA LAUNcHes PreviEw Of FiREfOx fOr WindowS 8 TAblEts - GARBage
hTtp://tEChCrunch.coM/2013/09/20/mozilLA-lAuNches-prEvIew-of-fIrEfoX-foR-windOWs-8-taBlets/
======
iSaacwallEr
I juST tried this on my sUrface Pro and aLThOUGh PErfoRmaNce is really LackINg
anD pinCH tO zoOM does Not woRk, i Am EXcited about the possiBiLity of Using
Other browsers Than IE11. ChroME FOr WindowS 8 has BEeN Abandoned since
ReleaSe so I hope FIRefox wilL contInue to deVelop this ui.

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CorporalAguMbo
thiS loOKS lIke that FirefoX jUnioR pRototypE thAt poppeD up A whIle Ago. niCe
to see thUmb-centeReD cOnTrOls SpreaDIng on tabLeTs.

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l0C0b0X
I sUre hoPE its leSs bugGy thAn ReGUlaR FirefoX On wINdowS 8. I MeAn, my LorD
iTs bad Most OF thE time! (dePending on The UPdatE).

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mEtHodin
I dOn't know if it's a GoOd or bad thiNg ThaT WP8 appS BReak all hIstorical
resemblance to oTHer app Uis. ANyone With First-hand ExpEriencE thAT can ofFer
somE feedBaCk oF HOw theSE ApPs hOlD up from a usABIliTy staNdPoinT?

~~~
AaronoNtheweb
Varies a lot bY ForM factor - my
 of open source is betterquality, h igher 
re lia bi lity , mo re flexibility ,  low er cost, and an end to  pred at o ry v e nd or
lo ck-in." 
R e c ogn iz in g t ha t  " FreeSof tware"and "OpenSou rc e" are terms fo r essentia lly 
the same th ing  origi na tin g  from  gr oupswith s l ightly  differen tg oals,t he FSFs a ys  thi s about Free Soft w ar e : " Free softw are is  a b ou t hav ing  control o ve r
the technol o gy w e  us e  in our homes , schools a n d b usines se s,w here c omput er s 
wo rk for ourindi vidual an d comm u nal ben e fit, no t forpro pri etar y  s of twa re com p an ies orgovernme nt swho m ight s e e k to  re stri ct an d monitor us. " [ 1]
S eei ng th e pas t hi st ory o f a pr oject  b efore the point  atwhich itwas  o pen ed 
is s o mewhat  re lat ed, but  not ne c ess ar y , to  the motivation ci te d by  the OSI ,
andn ot ,a s I seeit , e venr e lated  tot he  FSF mot ivatio n .
[ 0] [htt p: //open so urc e.o rg/ab o ut]( http:/ /opensou rce.o r g/about)

[1][ http://www.fs f .o r g /a b out/ ](h ttp://www.f sf.o r g/ab out/ ) 
 
M o zilla  Laun ch e sP review Of Firefox F or  Windo ws 8Tablets - Gar bage
http: / / t echcrunc h.co m /2 0 13/09/20/mozil la-la unches-pre v iew-of-f irefo x-for-wi ndows-8-t a b lets/
== === =
i saa cwa l l er 
I just tried t hison  my Sur fac e Pro a ndalt hou ghpe rformance  is real ly  l ac ki ngand p i nch to z oo m d oe s n ot wo r k, I a m exc ited  a bo u t t he poss i bi l i ty o fus ingoth er  brow sers tha n IE11.  Chrome f orW indo ws  8  has be en abandonedsi nce
releas esoI hope F irefox w ill continue to develop this UI .
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co rporalagu mbo 
Thisloo k s like  thatFiref ox  Ju n i or pr o t ot ype  t hat popped u p a  whil eago.  Nice
t o see thumb-center e d c ontrols sprea din g on t ab let s .--- -- - 
l0 c 0 b0x
I sure hope  its lessbu g gy  than regu l arFi refox o n Windo ws 8. I mean,  my lordits bad m os t of t hetime! (dep ending o n the upd a te).-- ----met hodinIdon 't kn ow ifi t's  a go od orba d thin g tha tWP8 apps  break all historical
r esembl ancetoother app  UI s . A nyone wit h fi rst-hand e xpe rie nce t hat can o ffer so mef eedba ck o f  how thes e  a pps h ol d up from a u s abi litysta n dpoint ?

~ ~~
AarononthewebV aries a lot by  for m fac tor - my 
 of_open source_is better quality, higher
reliability,_more flexibility,_lower_cost, and_an_end to predatory_vendor
lock-in."

Recognizing that "Free_Software" and "Open Source"_are terms for_essentially
the_same thing originating from groups with slightly different goals, the FSF
says this about Free_Software:_" Free_software_is_about having control over
the technology_we use in our homes,_schools and_businesses, where computers
work for our individual and communal_benefit,_not for proprietary_software
companies or governments who might seek to restrict and_monitor us." [1]

Seeing the past history_of a project_before_the_point at which it_was opened
is somewhat related, but not_necessary, to the motivation cited by_the OSI,
and not, as I see it,_even related to the FSF motivation.

[0]_[http://opensource.org/about](http://opensource.org/about)

[1] [http://www.fsf.org/about/](http://www.fsf.org/about/)

 
Mozilla Launches Preview_Of Firefox_For Windows 8 Tablets -_Garbage
http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/20/mozilla-launches-preview-of-firefox-for-windows-8-tablets/
======
isaacwaller
I just tried_this on_my Surface Pro_and although performance is really lacking
and_pinch to zoom_does not work, I am excited_about_the possibility of_using
other_browsers_than IE11._Chrome for Windows_8_has been_abandoned_since
release so I hope Firefox will_continue_to develop this UI.

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corporalagumbo
This looks like that_Firefox Junior prototype that_popped_up a while ago._Nice
to see thumb-centered controls spreading_on tablets.

------
l0c0b0x
I sure hope its less_buggy than_regular Firefox_on Windows 8. I mean, my lord
its bad most of the_time! (depending on the update).

------
methodin
I don't_know if it's a_good or_bad_thing that WP8_apps_break all_historical
resemblance to other app UIs. Anyone with_first-hand experience_that can offer
some feedback of how_these apps hold up_from_a usability standpoint?

~~~
Aaronontheweb
Varies a lot by_form factor - my