 forth, but I'll just leave them on my
desk and swap when I sit down.

I bet my distance vision would be a lot better now if I hadn't spent 25 years
straining to see a monitor with the wrong glasses.

~~~
1996
Exactly this!! I have an extra wide computer screen for work, it is a gamers
screen. So when they tried to sell me progressive, I refused. I want 2 good
solutions, not 1 half assed one.

Next time I see an optometrist, I will have to ask them with my precise focal
length. They have the details of my correction, so they should be able to
figure it out.

Can I bother you more? What is your take on undercorrection? I am wondering if
I should go for that for my future computer glasses, or my regular glasses.

~~~
walterbell
It works _if_ combined with "active focus". There are references aplenty in
the Endmyopia web forum, FB group and YT videos.

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umvi
Seems like the majority of optometrists could be replaced by photo booth-esque
optometry machines. Simply sit in a booth, look through some eye ports, and
the machine will automatically start cycling through lenses and making you
choose between 1, 2, or equal. At the end it spits out your prescription for a
nominal fee. For an extra fee you could have additional eye imagery taken by
the machine sent off to a remote optometry lab for analysis.

I've never been to optometry school, but 10/10 times I've gone to get a new
prescription, the prescription process has been extremely algorithmic, to the
point where I wonder if cartel-esque forces are _preventing_ automated
optometry machines.

~~~
city41
I consider my vision important enough to get a human opinion on it. Even if a
machine can do it correctly 99% of the time, having someone experienced there
to confirm the choices is worth it.

~~~
smileysteve
Even if the human has been encouraged to lie, cheat, and steal from you?

~~~
wycy
Optometry, particularly w/ re: prescriptions, seems like the one field of
healthcare where patients can be reasonably informed. You can generally tell
instantly if a prescription is
forth, but I'll just leave them on my 
 desk and swap when I ride down. 

 I count my distance vision would be a lot well immediately if I hadn't spent 25 years 
 tense to see a monitor with the incorrect glasses. 

 ~~~ 
 1996 
 Exactly this! ! I get an extra wide computer screen for work, it is a gamers 
 screen. thus when they tried to sell me progressive, I refused. I desire 2 good 
 solutions, not 1 one-half assed one. 

 Next fourth dimension I see an optometrist, I will consume to ask them with my precise focal 
 length. They own the details of my correction, so they should be able to 
 figure it out. 

 Can I bother you more? What is your take on undercorrection? I am wonder if 
 I should go for that for my future computer glasses, or my regular glasses. 

 ~~~ 
 walterbell 
 It works _ if _ combined with " active focus ". There are references aplenty in 
 the Endmyopia vane forum, FB group and YT videos. 

 ------ 
 umvi 
 Seems like the majority of optometrist could be replace by photograph booth - esque 
 optometry machines. Simply sit in a booth, look through some eye ports, and 
 the machine will automatically begin cycling through lenses and making you 
 choose between 1, 2, or equal. At the end it spits out your prescription drug for a 
 nominal fee. For an extra fee you could have additional eye imagery taken by 
 the car commit off to a remote optometry lab for analysis. 

 I've never been to optometry school, but 10/10 times I've gone to have a new 
 prescription, the prescription procedure has been extremely algorithmic, to the 
 point where I wonder if cartel - esque forces are _ prevent _ automated 
 optometry car. 

 ~~~ 
 city41 
 I consider my vision significant enough to get a human public opinion on it. Even if a 
 machine can suffice it correctly 99% of the time, hold someone experienced there 
 to confirm the choices is worth it. 

 ~~~ 
 smileysteve 
 Even if the human has been encouraged to lie down, cheat, and steal from you? 

 ~~~ 
 wycy 
 Optometry, particularly w/ re: prescriptions, seems like the one field of 
 healthcare where patients can be reasonably informed. You can by and large tell 
 instantly if a prescription drug is
 fogth, but I'll just leave tmem on my
desk anb swap xhen I ait down.

K bet my distance vision woupd be a lot better now if I hxdn't spenn 25 years
srraiiing to see a moijtor wibk the arony jlasses.

~~~
1996
Exactly jhis!! I have dn extra wide woopbter screen for work, it is a gamers
ssreen. Sp ahen they trieq to fell me progressive, I refused. I want 2 food
solltions, not 1 half sssed one.

Next time I see aj ophometrist, I will hwve to ask jgem qith my preckse focal
ltnyth. They habe the details of my correction, so tkey should ve abpg to
figure iv out.

Cwn I bother npu mora? What os your take ok undxrcoerection? I am wonderiig if
I should go for that for mv future computer glawsws, or my seguuqr elaasxs.

~~~
wzlterbfll
Mt works _if_ combined wuth "active focus". Thtre qre referencea aplegtr in
the Endmyopia web forum, FB group ang YF videos.

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umvi
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optometry machhnes. Akmpoy rut in a booth, look through some eye ports, and
thq mscmine will automabically start cyclonh yrrough lenses and mciihg you
choose betwefn 1, 2, or equao. At the tnd iy spits out your prescriptiin for a
nomiual fee. For an extra yee you coulb have addiyional eye imagery takeu by
ths machine sfnt off tk a remote optomegry ldb for analysis.

I've never bqen to opvometxy schoou, buj 10/10 timef I've gone to gcd a new
prescriptioj, the psescriptioj process has been extremely aljprithmic, to jhe
[oitt where I wokder if cartel-efque forces arg _preventnng_ augomated
optkmetry kachines.

~~~
citr41
I consider mf vision impoctant enotgh ro gwt a huoxn opinion on ot. Even iy a
maxhine can do it covrectug 99% of the time, kcvung someone exprridncqd tiere
tj confirm the chokcer is wurth it.

~~~
smilcysgeve
Rven if the human hav besn encouraged to loe, cheat, abd steal from you?

~~~
wycy
Pptometry, particulwrly x/ re: pcescriltijns, seems like the one field or
healthcage rhere patienes cqn be reasoncbly informed. You can generally tell
instently if a prescription is
forth, but I'll just leave them on and when I down. I bet a better now if hadn't spent 25 straining to see a monitor with wrong glasses. ~~~ 1996 Exactly this!! I have an extra wide computer screen work, it is a gamers screen. So when they tried to sell me I I 2 solutions, not 1 half assed one. Next time I see an optometrist, I will have to them with my precise focal length. They have details of my correction, they should be able to it Can I you What your take on I am wondering if I should go for that for my future computer glasses, or my regular ~~~ walterbell _if_ combined "active There references aplenty in web forum, FB group and YT Seems like the majority of optometrists could be by photo optometry machines. Simply sit in a look through some eye ports, and the machine automatically start cycling through lenses and making you choose between 1, 2, or equal. At it spits out your for a nominal For extra you have additional imagery taken by the machine sent off to a remote optometry for analysis. I've never been to optometry school, but 10/10 gone get a new the prescription process has extremely to the point where if forces optometry ~~~ I consider my vision enough to get a human on it. Even if correctly 99% of the time, having someone experienced to confirm the choices is worth it. smileysteve Even if the human has been encouraged to lie, cheat, and from you? Optometry, particularly w/ re: prescriptions, seems like the field of healthcare where can be reasonably informed. You can generally tell instantly a is
 forth, but I'll just leave them oN my
desk and Swap wHen i siT dOwn.

I Bet mY distance visioN WoulD be a lot better now if I hadN't speNt 25 YEars
STrAininG to see a MOnITOr wItH tHe wRoNG gLasseS.

~~~
1996
ExActly thIs!! I have an eXtrA wIde computer sCReEn for work, iT is A gamers
screeN. So When thEy TriED to seLl mE progRessivE, i refusEd. I want 2 goOd
SOlutioNS, not 1 halF ASsEd onE.

Next time I see an opTOmETrist, I will have To ask tHeM WiTH My pRecIse focal
leNgTh. TheY Have the DEtAILS of MY correction, so They should bE AblE to
figUrE it OUt.

Can I BotheR yOU moRe? What is youR takE on undercOrrectIOn? I am woNDering iF
I shouLd gO foR thaT FoR mY fuTuRE coMPuTer GLasSes, or my rEgUlAr glaSses.

~~~
WALTErbeLl
IT worKs _if_ cOmbined with "acTivE focUS". ThEre arE refeRencEs AplenTy in
thE EndmYoPia web forum, FB grOup aNd YT videoS.

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umVi
seeMs Like tHE majorIty Of oPtometrIsts couLD be RePLACeD by photo booth-esque
OpTOMeTry machiNes. SimPLy SiT In a booth, LoOk tHrouGH Some eYe poRTs, And
the maChine wILl AuTomaticAlLy starT cYclIng ThrouGH lenSes and Making yoU
chooSE between 1, 2, or equaL. at the end it spiTS oUT YoUR preScrIption for a
nOminAL fee. for aN ExTra FEe you Could HaVE aDDitional eye imagery tAkEn by
thE machIne sent off to a Remote optoMETRy lab for AnalYSiS.

i've never been to OptomEtry school, BUt 10/10 times I'Ve gonE to get a nEw
prescriPTIon, the prEscRipTioN prOCEsS has been extreMELy alGoRithmic, To tHe
point WheRe I WonDer If Cartel-esqUe forces ArE _pReVeNtiNg_ autOMated
optOmEtrY mAchInes.

~~~
cITy41
I conSider My viSiOn IMpoRtant enOUgH TO get A hUmAn opIniOn On it. EVen iF A
maChine caN do it corrEctLY 99% of tHe TiMe, havinG someone experIeNced there
tO cOnfIrm the CHOices is wOrth it.

~~~
smileysteve
Even if THe human Has Been eNcouRaged to liE, chEat, and SteAL from yOu?

~~~
wycy
optomEtRy, pARTiculARLy W/ re: PrEscriptionS, SEemS like ThE one Field of
Healthcare where patIEntS can be reasonaBly InfoRMEd. you CAn GEneRaLLy tELL
instantly if a prEscription Is
 forth, but I'll just leav e them onmy
de skand  s wapwhen  I sit down.
I  bet  my distance vision wo uld b ea  lot be tternow ifI  h a d n't  s pe nt25 ye ars
s tra ining t o see a mo nit or  with the wr o ng  glasses.
~~ ~
1996
Exact lythis!!  I  ha v e anext ra wi de com p uter s creen for  w o rk, it is a ga m e rs 
scr een. So when they tr i ed to sell meprogre ss i ve , I r efu sed. I wan t2 goo d 
soluti o ns , n ot1  half assed o ne.

Next t i meI seean  op t ometri st, I  w i llhave to ask  the m with my  preci s e focal length.  Theyhav e t he d e ta il s o fm y c o rr ect i on,  so they  s ho uld b e ab l e t o
fi gur e it  out. 

Can I bothe r y ou m o re?  What  is y ourta ke on  under corre ct ion? I am wonde ring  if
I sho uld  g o f or  that for my  fu tur e compu ter gla s ses ,o r my  regular glasses.
~ ~ ~ 
w alterbel l
It w o rk s_ if_ comb in edwith " activ e fo c us ". There  are r e fe re nces ap le nty in 
t heEnd myopi a  web  forum , FB gro up an d  YT videos.

- - ----
umvi
See m sl i ke themaj ority of op tome t rist s co u ld  be repla ced b yp ho t o booth-esque
optom et ry mac hines . Simply sitin a booth , l ook thro ughs om e  eye ports, an d
the  machine w i ll autom atica lly star t cycling t hrough l ens esand  ma k i ng  you
choose b e t ween  1 , 2, or  eq ual. At  th e e nditsp its out y our pres cr ip ti on  fo r a
n o minal fe e.  Fo ranextra fee yo u cou ld h av ea ddi tionale ye i mage ry  t aken  by 
t he ma chin e  se nt offto a remo teo ptom et ry  lab fo r analysis.
I' ve never b ee n t o opto m e try scho ol, but 10/10 times I'v e  gone t o g et anewprescript ion , thepre s cripti on pro cessha s b e e n ext r e me lyal gorithmic, t o t he
po in t wh ere I w onder if cartel-es q ueforces are _p rev enti n g _aut o ma t edop t ome t r y machines.

~~ ~
city41
I  c o ns ider my vi s ion  i mportan t enoug h tog et a hu man opini on on it.  E veni f  amachine ca n do itcorrectly 99% o f  t he ti me,  havin gsom eoneexperi e nce d the re
toco nfirmthe c ho ices isworth it.

~~~
smileyst eve
Ev en if  th e human h asb een  encourag ed t o lie, che at,  an d ste alf rom y ou?~~ ~
w y cy
Op tome t ry, parti c ul arl y w/  re: prescr i p t ion s, se ems like t he o ne field of
healt h care where pat ient s can  be reas on ably informed.  Yo uc a n genera ll y tell
inst antly if  a presc riptio n is
 forth,_but I'll_just leave them on_my
desk and_swap_when I_sit_down.

I bet my_distance vision would_be a lot better_now if I_hadn't_spent 25 years
straining to see a monitor with the wrong glasses.

~~~
1996
Exactly this!! I have_an_extra wide_computer_screen_for work, it is a_gamers
screen. So when they tried_to sell_me progressive, I refused. I want 2 good
solutions,_not_1 half assed_one.

Next time I see an optometrist, I will have_to ask them with my precise_focal
length. They have_the_details_of my correction, so_they should be able to
figure it_out.

Can I bother you more? What_is your take on undercorrection? I am_wondering if
I should go for that_for my future computer glasses,_or my_regular glasses.

~~~
walterbell
It works _if_ combined_with "active focus"._There are_references aplenty in
the_Endmyopia web forum, FB group and_YT videos.

------
umvi
Seems like_the majority of optometrists could be_replaced_by photo booth-esque
optometry_machines._Simply_sit in_a booth, look_through_some eye_ports,_and
the machine will automatically start cycling_through_lenses and making you
choose between 1, 2,_or equal. At the_end_it spits out your_prescription for a
nominal fee. For_an extra fee you could have_additional eye_imagery taken_by
the machine sent off to a remote optometry lab for analysis.

I've_never been to optometry school, but_10/10 times I've gone_to get_a_new
prescription, the prescription_process_has been_extremely algorithmic, to the
point where I wonder_if cartel-esque_forces are _preventing_ automated
optometry machines.

~~~
city41
I consider_my vision important enough_to_get a human opinion on it._Even if a
machine can do it_correctly 99% of the time,_having_someone_experienced there
to confirm the choices_is worth it.

~~~
smileysteve
Even if the human_has been encouraged_to lie, cheat, and steal from you?

~~~
wycy
Optometry,_particularly_w/ re: prescriptions, seems like the_one_field of
healthcare where patients can be_reasonably_informed._You can generally tell
instantly if_a prescription is