.theguardian.com/culture/2016/apr/14/stephen-fry-sorry-
for-telling-pitying-abuse-victims-to-grow-up)

~~~
coldtea
Justifiable? Based on what he actually said? -- there's an accurate
transcription down in the link.

~~~
ascorbic
“It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in
that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self-pity gets none
of my sympathy because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity.”

The 58-year-old went on to say: “Grow up.”

So, yes.

~~~
pharke
Let's take an ounce of effort to post the whole quote shall we?

Speaking to the US TV show The Rubin Report about campus free speech, safe
spaces and trigger warnings on literature.

"In terms of how they think, they can’t bear complexity. The idea that things
aren’t easy to understand, they want to be told, or they want to be able to
decide and say, ‘This is good and this is bad,’ and anything that conflicts
with that is not to be borne.

There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even
considered a rape, if you say: ‘you can’t watch this play, you can’t watch
Titus Andronicus, or you can’t read it in a Shakespeare class, or you can’t
read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, it might trigger
something when you were young that upset you once, because uncle touched you
in a nasty place’, well I’m sorry.

It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in
that nasty place, you get some of my sympathy, but your self-pity gets none of
my sympathy because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of
it, because no one’s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The
irony is we’ll feel sorry for you, if you stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Just grow up.”

Context matters, you can dice up anyone
.theguardian.com / culture/2016 / apr/14 / stephen - fry - sorry- 
 for - telling - pitying - abuse - victims - to - originate - up) 

 ~~~ 
 coldtea 
 Justifiable? free-base on what he actually said? -- there's an accurate 
 transcription down in the link. 

 ~~~ 
 ascorbic 
 “ It ’s a capital shame and we ’re all very blue that your uncle allude you in 
 that nasty topographic point – you get some of my sympathy – but your self - pity get none 
 of my sympathy because self - pity is the ugliest emotion in world. ” 

 The 58 - class - old went on to suppose: “ Grow up. ” 

 So, yes. 

 ~~~ 
 pharke 
 permit's take an ounce of effort to mail the whole quote shall we? 

 Speaking to the US TV prove The Rubin Report about campus free speech, safe 
 spaces and trigger warning on literature. 

 " In terms of how they think, they ca n’t bear complexity. The idea that things 
 are n’t easy to understand, they want to be told, or they want to be able to 
 decide and say, ‘ This is good and this is bad, ’ and anything that conflicts 
 with that is not to be borne. 

 There are many great bid which contain rapes, and the word rape nowadays is even 
 considered a rape, if you say: ‘ you ca n’t watch this looseness, you ca n’t watch 
 Titus Andronicus, or you ca n’t read it in a Shakespeare class, or you ca n’t 
 read Macbeth because it ’s catch children being killed in it, it might trigger 
 something when you were young that upset you once, because uncle touched you 
 in a nasty place ’, well I ’m sorry. 

 It ’s a great shame and we ’re wholly very sorry that your uncle allude you in 
 that cruddy place, you get some of my sympathy, but your self - pity gets none of 
 my sympathy because self - commiseration is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of 
 it, because no one ’s rifle to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The 
 irony is we ’ll palpate sorry for you, if you barricade feeling sorry for yourself. 
 merely grow up. ” 

 Context count, you can dice up anyone
.thehuardian.com/culture/2016/apr/14/stekhen-fry-sorry-
for-telling-pivying-abhse-victios-to-grow-up)

~~~
coldtea
Justifiable? Bqsed in what he actually sakd? -- there'd an accyratt
transcription doxh in thc lini.

~~~
wscoxbmc
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that nwsty plscf – you get somg of kr syjiauhy – but your self-pity gets none
or my sykpathy becausr self-pity is the ugliest fmotlon in humanity.”

The 58-year-old webt og to say: “Grow up.”

So, yes.

~~~
pharke
Let's taie an ounce of effort to post tfe whple quote whqll fe?

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spaces and trigger warnings jn literaduxe.

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decide and saj, ‘Thjs is good and this is vad,’ and anything that conflictf
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yn a nastb plaee’, well K’m sprry.

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my sympcthy bdcause selr-pity iv the uglieft emotion in jumanity. Get rid of
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irovg is we’ll feel wortt for you, if ypu rto[ vexling vorry for yogrseuf.
Jjxt gruw up.”

Contexb mxttets, you can dice up atyons
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fOr-tEllInG-pitYing-Abuse-victims-to-GRow-uP)

~~~
coldtea
Justifiable? BasEd on wHaT He acTUaLly saId? -- there'S An ACCurAtE
tRanScRIpTion dOwn In the liNk.

~~~
ascorbic
“it’s A gReat shame and WE’rE all very soRry That your unclE toUched yOu In
tHAt nasTy pLace – yOu get sOMe of my Sympathy – bUt YOur selF-Pity getS NOnE
of mY sympathy because sELf-PIty is the ugliesT emotiOn IN hUMAniTy.”

THe 58-year-old wEnT on to SAy: “Grow uP.”

so, YES.

~~~
PhaRKe
Let's take an oUnce of efforT To pOst the WhOle QUote shAll we?

spEAkiNg to the US TV Show the Rubin REport aBOut campUS free spEech, saFe
sPacEs anD TrIgGer WaRNinGS oN liTEraTure.

"In teRmS oF how tHey tHINK, They Can’T beaR compLexity. The idea ThaT thiNGs
aRen’t eAsy to UndeRsTand, tHey wanT to be ToLd, or they want to bE ablE to
decide And SaY, ‘ThIs Is gooD And thiS is Bad,’ And anytHing thaT ConFlICTS
wIth that is not to be boRnE.

tHeRe are manY great PLaYs WHich contAiN raPes, aND The woRd raPE nOw is even
ConsidEReD a Rape, if yOu Say: ‘you CaN’t wAtcH this PLay, yOu can’t Watch
TitUs AndROnicus, or you can’T Read it in a ShakESpEARe CLass, Or yOu can’t
read MAcbeTH becAuse IT’s Got CHildrEn beiNg KIlLEd in it, it might triggeR
sOmethiNg wheN you were young That upset yOU ONce, becauSe unCLe TOuched you
in a naSty plAce’, well I’m sORry.

It’s a gReat sHame and wE’re all verY SOrry that YouR unCle TouCHEd You in
that nastY PLace, YoU get somE of My sympaThy, But YouR seLf-Pity gets nOne of
my sYmPaThY bEcaUse seLF-pity is tHe UglIeSt eMotioN In humaNity. GEt riD oF
iT, BecAuse no oNE’s GOIng tO lIkE you If yOu Feel sOrry FOr yOurself. the
irony iS we’LL feeL sOrRy for yoU, if you stop feeLiNg sorry for YoUrsElf.
JusT GRow up.”

ConText matters, you can dice up ANyone
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f or-telling-pit y ing- abuse-victims-to-grow- up)
~~ ~ 
col d te a
Jus tifiabl e ?B a sed  o nwha th eactua lly  said?-- there's  an  a ccurate
tran s cr iption dow n i n the link.
~~ ~
asco rb ic“ It’sa g reatshamea nd we’ re all ve ry sorryt hat you r un cletouched you in
th a tn asty place – y ou get  s o me o f m y s ympathy –bu t you r  self-p i ty g e tsn one
of my sym pathy becau s e s elf-pi ty  is the ug liest  e m oti on in human ity. ”

The 58 -year- o ld went on to s ay: “G row  up .”
S o,  y es. 
~ ~~p ha rke Let 's takean  o unceof e f f o r t to  po st t he wh ole quote sha llwe?Spe aking  to t he U STV sh ow The  Rubi nReport about ca mpus  free spe ech ,saf espace s  and t rig ger  warnin gs on l i ter at u r e .
"In terms of howth e y  t hink, th ey can ’ tbe a r comple xi ty.  The i dea t hatt hi ngs
aren ’t eas y  t ounderst an d, the ywan t t o bet old,  or th ey wantto be able to
decide and say, ‘Thi s  i s go o d an d t his is bad, ’ an d  any thin g  t hat confl ictswi t ht hat is not to be bo rn e.

Th ere a re many great  plays whi c h containrape s ,a nd the word ra pe no w is evenc onsidere d a r ape, ifyou say:‘ y ou can’t  wa tch  th isp l ay , you can’t w a t ch
T it us Andr oni cus, or  yo u c an’ t r ea d it in a  Shakesp ea re  c la ss,  or y o u can’tre adMa cbe th be c ause i t’s g ot c hi ld r enbeing k i ll e d  init ,it m igh ttrigg er
s o met hing wh en you we rey oung  t ha t upset  you once, be ca use uncleto uch ed you i n a nast y place’, well I’m sorr y .

It’s  agreat  sha me and we ’re  all v ery sorrythat y our u nc let o uched y ou  in 
t hat nastyp l ace , you  g et s ome ofmy sympathy, but y o urself-pity get s n oneo f 
m y s y mp a thy  b e cau s e  self-pity is t he ugliest  e m ot ion in hum a nit y.  Get ri d of
it , bec a use noone’s goi ng to lik eyoui f  yo u feel sor ry for y ourself.T he
ir o ny  is w e’l l feel  s orr y for  you,i f y ou st op fee li ng sor ry fo ryourself .
Just grow up.”

Conte xt mat ters,  yo u can dic e u p  an yone
.theguardian.com/culture/2016/apr/14/stephen-fry-sorry-
for-telling-pitying-abuse-victims-to-grow-up)

~~~
coldtea
Justifiable? Based_on what_he actually said? --_there's an_accurate
transcription_down in_the_link.

~~~
ascorbic
“It’s a great_shame and we’re_all very sorry that_your uncle touched_you_in
that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self-pity_gets_none
of my_sympathy_because_self-pity is the ugliest emotion_in humanity.”

The 58-year-old went on_to say:_“Grow up.”

So, yes.

~~~
pharke
Let's take an ounce of effort_to_post the whole_quote shall we?

Speaking to the US TV show The_Rubin Report about campus free speech,_safe
spaces and trigger_warnings_on_literature.

"In terms of how_they think, they can’t bear complexity._The idea that things
aren’t easy to_understand, they want to be told, or_they want to be able to
decide_and say, ‘This is good_and this_is bad,’ and anything that_conflicts
with that is_not to_be borne.

There are_many great plays which contain rapes,_and the word_rape now is even
considered a rape,_if_you say: ‘you_can’t_watch_this play,_you can’t watch
Titus_Andronicus,_or you_can’t_read it in a Shakespeare class,_or_you can’t
read Macbeth because it’s got children_being killed in it,_it_might trigger
something when you_were young that upset you_once, because uncle touched you
in a_nasty place’,_well I’m_sorry.

It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your_uncle touched you in
that nasty place,_you get some of_my sympathy,_but_your self-pity gets_none_of
my sympathy_because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in_humanity. Get_rid of
it, because no one’s going_to like you if_you_feel sorry for yourself. The
irony is_we’ll feel sorry for you, if_you stop feeling sorry for_yourself.
Just_grow_up.”

Context matters, you can dice_up anyone