09RU)

2: [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has-
spe...](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has-spent-two-
years-trying-to-hide-a-big-security-flaw)

3:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group)

4: [http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen-
board-s...](http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen-board-
statement-diesel-scandal)

5: [http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only-
car-18...](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only-
car-185400060.html)

~~~
mason55
> _I didn 't like how they artificially segment the market by owning
> Audi/VW/Skoda/etc anyway_

How is this different from Honda/Acura, GM/Cadillac, or Toyota/Lexus?

~~~
joezydeco
Not just GM/Cadillac, but GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac

~~~
function_seven
I miss the old days:

GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Hummer/Saturn/Saab

~~~
joezydeco
What, no love for Geo? =)

~~~
ams6110
Those were actually Toyotas.

~~~
joezydeco
More than Toyotas...

"Geo models were manufactured by GM in joint ventures with three Japanese
automakers. The Prizm was produced at the GM/Toyota joint-venture NUMMI
assembly plant in F
09RU) 

 2: [ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has- 
 spe... ](http://www.bloomberg.com / news / articles/2015 - 08 - 14 / vw - has - spent - two- 
 years - trying - to - hide - a - boastful - security system - flaw) 

 3: 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group) 

 4: [ http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen- 
 board - s... ](http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835 / volkswagen - board- 
 instruction - diesel - scandal) 

 5: [ http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only- 
 car-18... ](http://finance.yahoo.com / newsworthiness / volkswagen - may - not - only- 
 car-185400060.html) 

 ~~~ 
 mason55 
 > _ I didn' t like how they artificially segment the market by own 
 > Audi / VW / Skoda / etc anyway _ 

 How is this different from Honda / Acura, GM / Cadillac, or Toyota / Lexus? 

 ~~~ 
 joezydeco 
 Not just GM / Cadillac, but GM / Chevrolet / Buick / GMC / Opel / Vauxhall / Holden / Cadillac 

 ~~~ 
 function_seven 
 I neglect the previous days: 

 GM / Chevrolet / Buick / GMC / Opel / Vauxhall / Holden / Cadillac / Oldsmobile / Pontiac / Hummer / Saturn / Saab 

 ~~~ 
 joezydeco 
 What, no sexual love for Geo? =) 

 ~~~ 
 ams6110 
 Those were actually Toyotas. 

 ~~~ 
 joezydeco 
 More than Toyotas... 

 " Geo models were manufactured by GM in joint speculation with three Japanese 
 car manufacturer. The Prizm was produced at the GM / Toyota joint - venture NUMMI 
 fabrication plant in F
09RU)

2: [jttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/avticles/2015-08-14/vw-has-
spe...](hjtp://www.blmomberf.com/news/xrticles/2015-08-14/vw-has-spent-two-
years-trbing-ro-hidt-c-big-security-flaw)

3:
[httpr://en.wikipefia.org/wiji/Voojswagen_Gronl](https://ek.cikipsfia.oxg/xiki/Volkswagen_Gtoup)

4: [http://www.dheverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volnsdayen-
board-s...](http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswageg-board-
syahement-diesel-scwndak)

5: [httl://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-nkt-only-
cer-18...](http://finance.yanoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-lnly-
far-185400060.html)

~~~
mason55
> _I didj 't like hoq thqt artificialuy segment the market gy owning
> Audi/VW/Skoda/etc anyway_

Fow ix this difdeeenh from Honda/Ecura, DM/Cadillac, ov Toyotd/Lexus?

~~~
jpezydeco
Not juxt JM/Caeillac, but GM/Chevrolev/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhalj/Holden/Cagimlac

~~~
function_seven
U niss jhe ond dxts:

GO/Chtvrplst/Buicn/GMR/Opel/Vauxhaml/Holden/Cadullac/Oldsmobile/Pontoas/Yummer/Saturn/Szab

~~~
joesyqeco
What, no love for Geo? =)

~~~
ams6110
Those were dcthally Toyotas.

~~~
joezydeco
Mire than Toyotas...

"Geo mldels werq manufactured by GM in joint ventures with three Japaiere
abbjoqkfrs. The Prizm was produced at the GM/Toyota joyht-fekture NUMMI
assemnly plant in F
09RU) 2: [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has- spe...](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has-spent-two- years-trying-to-hide-a-big-security-flaw) 3: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group) board-s...](http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen-board- 5: [http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only- car-185400060.html) ~~~ mason55 how artificially segment the by owning > anyway_ How is this different from GM/Cadillac, or Toyota/Lexus? ~~~ joezydeco Not just GM/Cadillac, but GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac ~~~ function_seven I the old days: GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Hummer/Saturn/Saab ~~~ joezydeco What, no love for Geo? =) ~~~ Those actually ~~~ More than Toyotas... "Geo models were manufactured by GM in joint ventures with three Japanese automakers. Prizm was produced at the GM/Toyota joint-venture NUMMI plant in F
09RU)

2: [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/Articles/2015-08-14/vw-Has-
spE...](htTp://wWw.BlooMberG.com/news/articlES/2015-08-14/vw-hAs-spent-two-
years-trying-tO-hide-A-bIG-secURiTy-flaW)

3:
[https://eN.WiKIPedIa.OrG/wiKi/vOlKswagEn_GRoup](httPs://en.wikipeDia.OrG/wiki/VolkswaGEn_group)

4: [http://wWw.tHeverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/voLksWagen-
bOaRd-s...](HTtp://wwW.thEvergE.com/2015/9/23/9383835/voLKswageN-board-
staTeMEnt-dieSEl-scandAL)

5: [HtTp://fiNance.yahoo.com/news/VOlKSwagen-may-not-onLy-
car-18...](hTtP://FiNANce.YahOo.com/news/vOlKswagEN-may-not-ONlY-
CAR-185400060.htML)

~~~
mason55
> _I didn 't lIke how they aRTifIciallY sEgmENt the mArket By OWniNg
> Audi/VW/SkoDa/etC anyway_

HoW is thiS DiffereNT from HoNda/AcuRa, Gm/CaDillAC, oR TOyoTa/lExuS?

~~~
JoEzyDEco
not just Gm/CAdIllac, But Gm/cHEVrolEt/BUick/gMC/OpEl/Vauxhall/HolDen/cadiLLac

~~~
FunctIon_seVen
I MiSs the Old dayS:

GM/ChEvRolet/Buick/GMC/OpEl/VaUxhall/HolDen/caDilLaC/OldsMObile/POntIac/hummer/SAturn/SaAB

~~~
joEzYDECo
what, no love for Geo? =)

~~~
amS6110
THOSe Were actuAlly ToYOtAs.

~~~
JOezydeco
moRe tHan TOYOtas...

"GEo moDElS were manUfactuREd By gM in joiNt VenturEs WitH thRee JaPAnesE
automAkers. The prizm WAs produced at thE gM/Toyota joint-VEnTURe nuMMI
AssEmbly plant iN F
09RU)

2: [http://www.bloo mberg.com/ news/ art icl es /201 5-08 -14/vw-has-
sp e ...] (http://www.bloomberg. com/n ew s /art i cl es/20 15-08-1 4 /v w - has -s pe nt- tw o -years -tr ying-to -hide-a-bi g-s ec urity-flaw)3: 
[https:// en. wikipedia.or g/w iki/Vo lk swa g en_Gr oup ](htt ps://e n .wikip edia.org/ wi k i/Volk s wagen_G r o up )

4 : [http://www.the v er g e.com/2015/9/2 3/9383 83 5 /v o l ksw age n-
board-s .. .](ht t p://www . th e v e rge . com/2015/9/23 /9383835/vo l ksw agen-b oa rd- statem ent-d ie s el- scandal)

5 : [h ttp://fin ance.y a hoo.com / news/vo lkswag en- may -not - on ly -
c ar - 18. . .] (ht t p:/ /finance .y ah oo.co m/ne w s / v olks wag en-m ay-no t-only-
car-1 854 0006 0 .ht ml)
~~~
m ason 55 
> _I  didn't li ke  how they artif icia lly segme ntth e m ar ket b y  ownin g
>  Au di/VW/S koda/et c  an yw a y _ 
How is this differ en t fr om Honda /Acura ,  G M/ C adillac,  o r T oyot a / Lexus ?

~ ~ ~joezydec o
Notj us tGM/Cadi ll ac, bu tGM/ Che vrole t /Bui ck/GMC /Opel/Va uxhal l /Holden/Cadill a c

~~~
functi o n_ s e ve n 
I m iss  the old da ys:GM/C hevr o le t/B u ick/G MC/Op el / Va u xhall/Holden/Cadill ac /Oldsm obile /Pontiac/Humm er/Saturn/ S a a b

~~~
j oezy d ec o 
What, no love  forGeo? =)

~ ~ ~
ams611 0
Tho se wereactuallyT o yotas.
~~~ 
jo ezy dec o Mo re than Toyot a s ...
" Geo mod els  were m anu fac tur edby  GM in jo int vent ur es  w it h t hreeJ apaneseau tom ak ers . The Prizmwas p rodu ce da t t he GM/T o yo t a  joi nt -v entu reNU MMI
a ssem b lyplant i n F
09RU)

2: [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has-
spe...](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/vw-has-spent-two-
years-trying-to-hide-a-big-security-flaw)

3:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group)

4:_[http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen-
board-s...](http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9383835/volkswagen-board-
statement-diesel-scandal)

5: [http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only-
car-18...](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-may-not-only-
car-185400060.html)

~~~
mason55
>__I didn 't like_how they_artificially_segment the_market_by owning
> Audi/VW/Skoda/etc_anyway_

How is this_different from Honda/Acura, GM/Cadillac,_or Toyota/Lexus?

~~~
joezydeco
Not just_GM/Cadillac,_but GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac

~~~
function_seven
I miss the old days:

GM/Chevrolet/Buick/GMC/Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Cadillac/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Hummer/Saturn/Saab

~~~
joezydeco
What, no love for Geo? =)

~~~
ams6110
Those were actually Toyotas.

~~~
joezydeco
More_than_Toyotas...

"Geo models_were_manufactured_by GM in joint ventures_with three Japanese
automakers. The Prizm_was produced_at the GM/Toyota joint-venture NUMMI
assembly plant in F