 as yet very ill defined. But this isn't the hill I'd choose to die on.

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interfixus
> _In the DOJ’s world, this means anyone under 18 who reads a Hearst newspaper
> online could hypothetically face jail time_

Jail time? What is it with this American propensity for locking up more or
less everybody? As seen from the other site of the pond, it does at times sort
of beggar belief.

~~~
cr0sh
Many prisons in the US are privately operated (Corrections Corporation of
America is one of the large companies that run private prisons).

These companies then sell certain services to the public - such as
telemarketing (seriously). In other words, that person you're talking to in a
telemarketing context may very well be a prisoner in a CCA owned facility!

Now - prisoners aren't forced (?) to participate in these activities, but they
are highly encouraged; it gives them a bit of money for the commissary (very
small bit) and other things, plus gives them "job skills" for the outside, and
probably also a mark on their records for later parole review purposes ("hey,
she participated in this, and became a model "employee" as a telemarketer -
let's factor that into her record for an early release").

So - there is a strong incentive to participate in these programs. They aren't
limited to telemarketing either: If you can think of something which can be
done by low-skilled workers who are a "captive audience" so to speak, it is
probably sold as a service by these private prison companies to other
businesses.

For instance, another big one is "product assembly" (putting furniture
together, or electronics, or other similar work).

So - these companies - the private prisons - need more employees, right? You
know, to sell their services. These employees are very cheap (and easy to
coerce to work - after all, they are also prisoners!): Just pay lowest-bidder
for food and housing, then get 'em inside. Best way to do that is to lobby for
more restrictive laws, make more things felonies, etc...

Right? Understand? Kinda sounds like a form of indentured servitude, or
corporate prison slavery, right? Maybe
as yet very ill defined. But this isn't the hill I'd choose to fail on. 

 ------ 
 interfixus 
 > _ In the DOJ ’s populace, this means anyone under 18 who reads a Hearst newspaper 
 > online could hypothetically front jail fourth dimension _ 

 Jail time? What is it with this American propensity for interlock up more or 
 less everybody? As seen from the other web site of the pond, it does at times sort 
 of beggar impression. 

 ~~~ 
 cr0sh 
 Many prisons in the US are privately operated (Corrections Corporation of 
 America is one of the big companies that run private prison). 

 These companies then sell certain services to the public - such as 
 telemarketing (badly). In other words, that person you're talking to in a 
 telemarketing context may very well be a prisoner in a CCA own facility! 

 Now - prisoners aren't forced (?) to participate in these activity, but they 
 are highly encouraged; it gives them a bit of money for the commissary (very 
 small bit) and early things, plus gives them " job skills " for the outside, and 
 probably also a bell ringer on their records for later parole review purposes (" hey, 
 she participated in this, and became a model " employee " as a telemarketer - 
 let's factor that into her record for an early release "). 

 thus - there is a strong bonus to enter in these programs. They aren't 
 limited to telemarketing either: If you can think of something which can be 
 done by humble - skilled worker who are a " captive audience " so to address, it is 
 probably sold as a service by these private prison companies to other 
 occupation. 

 For instance, another big one is " product assembly " (putting furniture 
 together, or electronics, or early exchangeable work). 

 So - these companies - the private prison - need more employees, right? You 
 acknowledge, to sell their services. These employees are very cheap (and comfortable to 
 coerce to work - after all, they are also prisoners! ): merely pay depleted - bidder 
 for food and housing, then catch'em inside. good way to do that is to lobby for 
 more restrictive laws, make more things felony, etc... 

 Right? Understand? Kinda sounds like a form of apprenticed servitude, or 
 corporate prison slavery, right? Maybe
 as yet very ill defined. Buu this isn't the hnol I'd rhoose fo die ov.

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interfixus
> _In the DOJ’s worlv, thus meqns anyone under 18 who feads a Hvarst newwpaptr
> online could hblothetigclly rwce laml time_

Jail timg? What is it with this Amesizau propensity for locking up more or
lqss evetyhody? As seen ftom tnq otgvr site of the pond, it does at fimes smrt
of beggar nelief.

~~~
cr0sh
Many prisons in hhe KS are privately ooerated (Cortsctyins Corporatkon of
Amerpea is one or the large companies that run orivace prisons).

Tyewe fmmpanies thxn selj certain sevnices tm the piblic - such as
belemerkering (seriously). In othxr words, that person you're tanknng to in a
telemarketunt conjext kay xwry weml bs a prlsoier in a CCZ owned faculity!

Now - prisoners awvm't forced (?) tk partycypate in these activities, but they
are hpghlg encouraged; it gives tyem a bit of money fot the commyssary (very
small bit) and other things, plus gives dhem "ooc sjijuw" vor the outside, and
probably also a mark on thqjr rvcords for later iarole review purppsfs ("rey,
she partickpated in this, and became a model "gmploywe" as a ttlematketer -
let's factor that inti her record dor an early releade").

So - there is s strpng incentive to particnpate jn these prlgrams. Thsh aren't
limited tu tvlemdrketing either: If you can think of somzthing wfich can bq
done by llw-skilled workers who arf a "ccptiva audience" so to speak, it is
probably sold as a service ny thvse privace prixon companies to other
busingsses.

For nnstanze, another big onx is "product assembly" (putdlng furniturx
together, or wlecrronics, ur other similsr work).

So - these conpanies - the privabe prkaons - need more emkliyees, right? Yoi
knuw, eo sxll trair services. There dkploydes are vern cfeap (and easy to
coerce tm wodk - after all, they ave also ptisoners!): Tust pay lowext-bidder
for food ajd honsing, vhen grt 'gm inside. Best way to do that ia to lobbj fjr
more restryctiye lwws, make mpre things felonies, etc...

Right? Understand? Kinda sounds likg a form of indentureb xervitude, oc
corpowate prismn slavery, right? Mayve
as yet very ill defined. But this hill choose to on. ------ interfixus this anyone under 18 reads a Hearst > online could hypothetically face jail Jail time? What is it with this American propensity for locking up more less everybody? As seen from the other site of the pond, it does times of belief. cr0sh Many prisons in the US are privately operated (Corrections Corporation of America is one of large companies that run private prisons). These companies sell certain services to public - such as telemarketing In words, that you're to a telemarketing context very well be a prisoner in a CCA owned facility! Now - prisoners aren't forced (?) to in these they are encouraged; gives a bit of the commissary (very small bit) and gives them "job skills" for the outside, and also a on their records for later parole purposes ("hey, she participated in this, and became model "employee" as a telemarketer - let's factor that into her record for an early - there is a incentive to participate these They limited telemarketing either: you can think of something which can be done by low-skilled who are a "captive audience" so to speak, it is as service by these prison companies to other For another big one is (putting together, other work). - these companies - private prisons - need more right? You know, to are very cheap (and easy to coerce to - after all, they are also prisoners!): pay lowest-bidder for food and housing, then get 'em inside. Best way do that lobby for more restrictive laws, make more things etc... Right? Understand? Kinda like a form of indentured servitude, or corporate prison right?
 as yet very ill defined. But thiS isn't the hiLl I'd cHooSe tO dIe on.

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InteRfixus
> _In the DOJ’S WorlD, this means anyone under 18 wHo reaDs A hearST nEwspaPer
> onliNE cOULd hYpOtHetIcALlY face JaiL time_

JaIl time? What Is iT wIth this AmeriCAn Propensity For Locking up morE or
Less evErYboDY? As seEn fRom thE other SIte of tHe pond, it dOeS At timeS Sort
of bEGGaR belIef.

~~~
cr0sh
Many prisonS In THe US are privateLy operAtED (CORRecTioNs CorporatIoN of
AmERica is oNE oF THE laRGe companies thAt run privatE PriSons).

ThEsE coMPanies Then sElL CerTain serviceS to tHe public - sUch as
tELemarkeTIng (seriOusly). IN otHer WordS, ThAt PerSoN You'RE tAlkINg tO in a
teleMaRkEting ContEXT MAy veRy wEll bE a priSoner in a CCA owNed FaciLIty!

now - prIsoneRs arEn'T forcEd (?) to paRticiPaTe in these activiTies, But they
arE hiGhLy eNcOuragED; it givEs tHem A bit of mOney for THe cOmMISSaRy (very
small bit) and oThER ThIngs, plus Gives tHEm "JoB Skills" foR tHe oUtsiDE, And
prObabLY aLso a mark On theiR ReCoRds for lAtEr paroLe RevIew PurpoSEs ("heY,
she paRticipatEd in tHIs, and became a moDEl "employee" as a TElEMArKEter -
Let'S factor that Into HEr reCord FOr An eARly reLease").

so - THeRE is a strong incentive To ParticIpate In these prograMs. They aren'T
LIMited to tElemARkETing either: If yoU can tHink of someTHing whicH can bE
done by lOw-skilled WORkers who Are A "caPtiVe aUDIeNce" so to speak, iT IS
proBaBly sold As a Service By tHesE prIvaTe Prison comPanies to OtHeR
bUsIneSses.

FOR instancE, aNotHeR biG one iS "ProducT asseMbly" (PuTtINg fUrniturE
ToGETher, Or ElEctrOniCs, Or othEr siMIlaR work).

So - These compAniES - the PrIvAte prisOns - need more emPlOyees, right? yoU
knOw, to seLL Their serVices. These employees are vERy cheap (And Easy tO
coeRce to work - AftEr all, tHey ARe also PrisonErs!): JuSt Pay LOWest-bIDDeR
foR fOod and housING, thEn get 'Em InsiDe. Best wAy to do that is to lobbY For
More restrictiVe lAws, mAKE mOre THiNGs fElONieS, ETc...

Right? UnderstaNd? Kinda souNdS LiKe a form of iNDenTuRed servItude, or
CorpoRAte prisOn slavery, Right? MaybE
 as yet very ill defined.But this i sn'tthe  hi ll  I'd  cho ose to die on. 
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interfixus
> _In t he DO J’ s  wor l d,  this  meansa ny o n e u nd er  18  w h oreads  aHearstnewspaper> o nl ine could hy p ot heticallyfac e jail time_ 

J ail ti me ? W h at is  it  with  thisA merica n propens it y  for l o cking u p mo re o r
less everybody? As seen from theothersi t eo f  th e p ond, it do es  at t i mes sor t 
o f b egg a r belief.

~~ ~
cr0sh
Man y  pr isonsin  th e  US ar e pri va t ely  operated ( Corr ections C orpora t ion ofA mericais one  of  th e la r ge  c omp an i est ha t r u n p rivate p ri so ns).
The s e c ompa nie s th en se ll certain se rvi cest o t he pu blic- su ch  as
t elemar ketin g(seriously). In  oth er words,  th at  pe rs on yo u 're ta lki ngto in a 
telema r ket in g c on text may very well  b e aprisoner  in aC CA  o w ned faci li ty! 

No w - pri sone r saren't f orced( ?)  t o parti ci pate i nthe seactiv i ties , butthey
are  high l y encouraged;i t gives thema  b i t  o f  mon eyfor the com miss a ry ( very sm all bit)and o th e rt hings, plus gives t he m "job  skil ls" for the o utside, an d p robablyalso am ark on their r ecord s for late r  parolerevie w purpos es ("hey, s he parti cip ate d i n t h i s,  and became a m odel  " employe e"as a te lem ark ete r - 
l et's fact or thatin to  h er  re cordf or an ea rl y r el eas e").So - t hereis a  s tr o ngincenti v et o  par ti ci pate  in  t heseprog r ams . Theyaren't
li mit e d to  t el emarket ing either: I fyou can th in k o f some t h ing whic h can be
done by low-sk i lled wo rke rs wh o ar e a "capt ive  audie nce "  so to  speak , itis 
pr o b ablys o ld  as  a  service b y the se pr iv ateprisoncompanies to other bus inesses.

For  in stan c e ,ano t he r  bi go nei s  "product assem bly" (putt in g  f urniture
t o get he r, or e lectron ics,o r other  similarwork).

S o- th e s e c ompanies -  the pri vate pris o ns -n ee d mor e e mploye es , r ight?  You
k n ow,  to s ell th ei r serv ices.  T hese emp loyees are very cheap ( and ea sy to 
co erce to w ork - a fter all,  the y are also  pr iso ners! ):J ust p ay l o we st- b idder 
for food andh ou sin g ,  t hen get 'em i n sid e. Be stw ay todo t hat is to lobby f o r
more restric tive l aws , m a ke m or e things felon ies ,e t c...

Ri gh t? Understa nd? Kind as ounds  likea form  of ind e n tu r ed ser vitu de,  or
corpo rat ep rison s la ve r y, rig ht?Ma ybe
 as_yet very_ill defined. But this_isn't the_hill_I'd choose_to_die on.

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interfixus
> _In_the DOJ’s world,_this means anyone under_18 who reads_a_Hearst newspaper
> online could hypothetically face jail time_

Jail time? What is it with this_American_propensity for_locking_up_more or
less everybody? As seen_from the other site of_the pond,_it does at times sort
of beggar belief.

~~~
cr0sh
Many prisons_in_the US are_privately operated (Corrections Corporation of
America is one of the_large companies that run private prisons).

These_companies then sell_certain_services_to the public -_such as
telemarketing (seriously). In other words,_that person you're talking to in_a
telemarketing context may very well be a_prisoner in a CCA owned facility!

Now_- prisoners aren't forced (?)_to participate_in these activities, but they
are_highly encouraged; it_gives them_a bit of_money for the commissary (very
small bit)_and other things,_plus gives them "job skills" for_the_outside, and
probably also_a_mark_on their_records for later_parole_review purposes_("hey,
she_participated in this, and became a_model_"employee" as a telemarketer -
let's factor that_into her record for_an_early release").

So - there_is a strong incentive to_participate in these programs. They aren't
limited_to telemarketing_either: If_you can think of something which can be
done by low-skilled workers_who are a "captive audience" so_to speak, it is
probably_sold as_a_service by these_private_prison companies_to other
businesses.

For instance, another big one is_"product assembly"_(putting furniture
together, or electronics, or other_similar work).

So - these_companies_- the private prisons - need_more employees, right? You
know, to sell_their services. These employees are_very_cheap_(and easy to
coerce to work_- after all, they are also_prisoners!): Just pay_lowest-bidder
for food and housing, then get 'em_inside._Best way to do that is_to_lobby for
more restrictive laws, make more_things_felonies,_etc...

Right? Understand? Kinda sounds like_a form of indentured servitude, or
corporate_prison slavery, right? Maybe