 on BMI? 2kg of weight? I fluctuate more than that on a weekly
basis...)

~~~
lurknomore
There are several sayings in fitness circles that are similar to this: "You
can't outrun your fork." Diet is the primary reason people are obese, not lack
of exercise.

~~~
WildUtah
"You can't outrun your fork."

I can.

People who can't outrun their forks aren't running hard enough.

Hunting down a lot of calories and eating them is part of being a mammal. I
bicycled across North America one fall on a mostly mountain route. Four times
a day I ate full meals and added as many Dove bars as I could without being
sick in between. I biked up and down hills with 30kg of gear all day. And I
lost a lot of weight.

Sure it hurts to work that hard, but it's supposed to hurt a little. Being
comfortable all the time isn't part of being a mammal.

~~~
rtb
I look forward to your enlightening anecdote based debunking of other sayings,
such as that time you made a great broth despite too many cooks, or that time
a gathering didn't get merrier with more people.

~~~
WildUtah
I'm a little too busy to entertain you with vignettes right now; I need to
supervise this pot closely until it boils.

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AstroChimpHam
>But eventually the researchers homed in on 10 pairs of male identical twins,
one of whom regularly exercised, while the other did not, usually because of
work or family pressures, the researchers determined.

That "work and family pressure" sounds like stress and a pretty important
confounding variable.

~~~
reedlaw
It's also a choice, or even an excuse. Nearly everyone has work and family
pressures. Some find relief in exercise.

~~~
maratd
> It's also a choice, or even an excuse.

Alright, get off your high horse. Just because you "excercise" doesn't make
you better. There are plenty who don't need to because they work with their
hands and plenty more because they have active hobbies. And while it's a
popular notion that constant
on BMI? 2 kg of weight? I fluctuate more than that on a weekly 
 basis ...) 

 ~~~ 
 lurknomore 
 There are respective saying in seaworthiness circles that are similar to this: " You 
 can't outrun your fork. " Diet is the elementary reason people are corpulent, not lack 
 of exercise. 

 ~~~ 
 WildUtah 
 " You can't outrun your fork. " 

 I can. 

 People who can't outrun their fork aren't running hard enough. 

 hunt down a lot of calories and corrode them is share of being a mammal. I 
 bicycled across North America one capitulation on a mostly mountain path. Four times 
 a day I ate wide meals and added as many Dove bars as I could without being 
 ill in between. I biked up and down hills with 30 kg of gear all day. And I 
 lose a lot of weight. 

 Sure it hurts to work that hard, but it's presuppose to ache a little. Being 
 comfortable all the time isn't part of being a mammal. 

 ~~~ 
 rtb 
 I look forward to your enlightening anecdote free-base repudiation of early sayings, 
 such as that time you made a big broth despite too many cooks, or that time 
 a gather didn't get merrier with more people. 

 ~~~ 
 WildUtah 
 I'm a little excessively busy to entertain you with vignettes right now; I need to 
 monitor this pot closely until it boils. 

 ------ 
 AstroChimpHam 
 > But eventually the research worker homed in on 10 pair of male identical gemini, 
 one of whom regularly exercised, while the other did not, usually because of 
 work or family pressures, the research worker determined. 

 That " study and family pressure " sound like stress and a reasonably important 
 confounding variable. 

 ~~~ 
 reedlaw 
 It's also a choice, or even an apology. Nearly everyone has work and family 
 press. Some find relief in use. 

 ~~~ 
 maratd 
 > It's also a choice, or even an excuse. 

 Alright, get off your high horse. Just because you " excercise " doesn't make 
 you better. There are plenty who don't necessitate to because they work with their 
 hands and batch more because they have active hobbies. And while it's a 
 popular notion that constant
 on BMI? 2kg of weight? I flucuuate more than tkqt on e weeklg
basis...)

~~~
lufknomore
There are several sabingw in ditness circles that afe similag to this: "You
ran't outrun your fork." Dicc is fme prnmery reason peopke are obeve, not lack
of axdreise.

~~~
WildUtah
"You can't outrun your forh."

I can.

Proole who can't ootrun eheid forks aren't running hard enough.

Hhnting vown a lot of cslories and eating them is parh of being a mammap. I
bicycled acrjws North Amefica one fall on a mosjly mountain route. Four times
a dxy I cte full meqlw ajg added as nany Qove bars as I could withouy being
sick in bevweeb. I biked up and down hills with 30kg of dear all gav. And I
lost a lot of qeught.

Sore id hufrs go sock fhat hwrd, but it's shpposed to yurt a little. Being
voidortable all fhe tiie isn't part of being a mammal.

~~~
rtb
I look fmrwzrd to your enlightenint anecdote based debujking of jther sayings,
such as that time you made a great bsoth verpiue too oqnj cooks, or that time
a gathering didn't get merwjet eith more peopje.

~~~
WildUtah
I'k w kyttle too busi to encsrfain you with vignfttes ryght bow; I neeq to
xupervise this pot closely yntil it boijw.

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AstroChimpHam
>But zventually tke resgarchets homed in on 10 pairs oy male identical hwins,
one kw whom regularly exvrcived, whilt the other did noe, usually beccuse of
wurk pr famyly pressuges, tma researchers detegmineb.

That "work and vamily pressure" sounds like strxxs and a prejty imiortant
coufoundlng variable.

~~~
reeqlaw
It's also a choice, or exen an exclse. Nearlb everyone hws work and fdlily
pressurev. Some fynd eeliwf in ebdrcise.

~~~
maratd
> Iy's also a choice, or even an excuse.

Alrlght, est off your higk yorse. Just becaise yot "vxcxrcisq" doesn't make
fou cetgrr. Thdre are plekty who don't need to becausa thsy work with their
nakds and poenty mowe because thry have active hobhies. End whmle it'x a
kopular notion that constant
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BaSis...)

~~~
lUrknOmore
There are sEVeraL sayings in fitness circlEs thaT aRE simILaR to thIs: "You
caN'T oUTRun YoUr ForK." DIEt Is the PriMary reaSon people aRe oBeSe, not lack
of eXErCise.

~~~
WildUtAh
"YOu can't outrun YouR fork."

I CaN.

PeOPle whO caN't outRun theIR forks Aren't runnInG Hard enOUgh.

HuntING dOwn a Lot of calories and eATiNG them is part of bEing a mAmMAl. i
BIcyCleD across NorTh ameriCA one falL On A MOStlY Mountain route. four times
a dAY I aTe full MeAls ANd addeD as maNy dOve Bars as I coulD witHout being
Sick in BEtween. I BIked up aNd down HilLs wIth 30kG Of GeAr aLl DAy. AND I
LosT A loT of weighT.

SUrE it huRts tO WORK thaT haRd, buT it's sUpposed to hurt A liTtle. bEinG
comfOrtabLe alL tHe timE isn't pArt of BeIng a mammal.

~~~
rtb
I lOok fOrward to yOur EnLigHtEning ANecdotE baSed DebunkiNg of othER saYiNGS,
SuCh as that time you madE a GREaT broth deSpite tOO mAnY Cooks, or tHaT tiMe
a gATHerinG didN'T gEt merrieR with mORe PeOple.

~~~
WilDUTah
I'm a LiTtlE toO busy TO entErtain You with vIgnetTEs right now; I neeD To
supervise thIS pOT ClOSely UntIl it boils.

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AsTroCHImpHAm
>BuT EvEntUAlly tHe resEaRChERs homed in on 10 pairs of mAlE identIcal tWins,
one of whom Regularly eXERCised, whiLe thE OtHEr did not, usuallY becaUse of
work oR Family prEssurEs, the resEarchers dETErmined.

THat "WorK anD faMILy Pressure" soundS LIke sTrEss and a PreTty impoRtaNt
cOnfOunDiNg variablE.

~~~
reedlaw
it'S aLsO a ChoIce, or EVen an excUsE. NeArLy eVeryoNE has woRk and FamiLy
PrESsuRes. Some FInD RElieF iN eXercIse.

~~~
MaRatd
> IT's alSO a cHoice, or Even an excUse.

aLrigHt, GeT off youR high horse. JusT bEcause you "eXcErcIse" doeSN'T make
you Better. There are plenty who DOn't need To bEcausE theY work with TheIr
handS anD Plenty More beCause ThEy hAVE actiVE HoBbiEs. and while it'S A
PopUlar nOtIon tHat consTant
 on BMI? 2kg of weight? Ifluctuatemoretha n t ha t on  a w eekly
basis... ) 

~~ ~
lurknomore
There are  seve ra l  say i ng s infitness ci r c les  t ha t a re si milar  to  this:"You
can't  ou tr un your fork . "Diet is th e p rimary reaso n p eoplear e o b ese,not  lack 
of ex e rcise. 

~~~
Wil dU t ah
"Yo u  can'to u tr un y our fork."

I can . 
P eople who can' t outr un th e i r f ork s aren't r un ningh ard eno u gh . Hun t ing down a lo t of calori e s a nd eat in g t h em ispartof bei ng a mammal . Ibicycledacross North A m erica o ne fal l o n a  mos t ly  m oun ta i n r o ut e.F our  times
a  d ay  I at e fu l l m eals  an d ad ded a s many Dove b ars  asI  co uld w ithou t be in g
sic k in b etwee n.  I biked up and  dow n hills w ith  3 0kg  o f gea r  all d ay.  An d I
los t a lot ofwe i g h t. 

Sure it hurts to  w o r kthat har d, but it 's supposed  t o h urta littl e. B e in g
comfor tablea ll  t he time  i sn't p ar t o f b einga  mam mal.
~~~
rtbI loo k  forward to yo u r enlightenin g  a n e cd o te b ase d debunking  ofo ther  say i ng s,s uch a s tha tt im e  you made a great b ro th des pitetoo many cook s, or that t i me
a gat heri n gd idn't get merr ier w ith more p e ople.

~ ~~
Wi ldUtah
I 'm a litt l e  too bus y t o e nte rta i n  y ou with vigne t t es r ig ht now;  Ineed to 
su per vis e t hi s pot clo sely unt il  i tbo ils .

-- - ---
Astr oC him pH am>Bute ventua lly t he r es ea r che rs home d  i n on 1 0pa irsofma le id enti c altwins,one of wh omr egul ar ly  exerci sed, while th eother didno t,usuall y becauseof
work or family press u res, th e r esear cher s determi ned .

Tha t " w ork an d fami ly pr es sur e "  soun d s  l ike  s tress anda pre tty i mp orta nt
conf ounding variable.~~~ 
reedlaw
It's  al so a c ho ice ,  o r  ev en ane x cuse. Nearly ev eryone has  w o rk  and famil y 
pr es sures.Some fi nd re l ief inexercise. 

~~~
mar at d
>I t 'salso a cho ice, oreven an e x cuse. 
A lrigh t,get of fyou r hig h hors e . J ust b ecause  y ou "ex cerci se " doesn' t make
you better. Ther e areplent y w ho don'tnee d  to  becausethey  work with  th eir 
hand s a n d ple ntym or e b e cause  the y  have act i ve  ho b b ie s. And whil e i t's  a
po pul a r noti on t hat constant
 on_BMI? 2kg_of weight? I fluctuate_more than_that_on a_weekly
basis...)

~~~
lurknomore
There_are several sayings_in fitness circles_that are similar to_this: "You
can't outrun_your_fork." Diet is the primary reason people are obese, not lack
of exercise.

~~~
WildUtah
"You can't outrun_your_fork."

I can.

People_who_can't_outrun their forks aren't running_hard enough.

Hunting down a lot_of calories_and eating them is part of being a_mammal._I
bicycled across North_America one fall on a mostly mountain route. Four_times
a day I ate full meals_and added as_many_Dove_bars as I could_without being
sick in between. I biked_up and down hills with 30kg_of gear all day. And I
lost a_lot of weight.

Sure it hurts to_work that hard, but it's_supposed to_hurt a little. Being
comfortable all_the time isn't_part of_being a mammal.

~~~
rtb
I_look forward to your enlightening anecdote_based debunking of_other sayings,
such as that time you_made_a great broth_despite_too_many cooks,_or that time
a_gathering_didn't get_merrier_with more people.

~~~
WildUtah
I'm a little too_busy_to entertain you with vignettes right now;_I need to
supervise this_pot_closely until it boils.

------
AstroChimpHam
>But_eventually the researchers homed in_on 10 pairs of male identical_twins,
one of_whom regularly_exercised, while the other did not, usually because of
work or family_pressures, the researchers determined.

That "work and_family pressure" sounds like_stress and_a_pretty important
confounding variable.

~~~
reedlaw
It's_also_a choice,_or even an excuse. Nearly everyone has_work and_family
pressures. Some find relief in exercise.

~~~
maratd
>_It's also a choice,_or_even an excuse.

Alright, get off your_high horse. Just because you "excercise"_doesn't make
you better. There are_plenty_who_don't need to because they_work with their
hands and plenty more_because they have_active hobbies. And while it's a
popular notion_that_constant