. Giving men more contraceptive power
doesn't take anything away from women.

~~~
colanderman
You are right, but that's not what the article the GP linked is about. It's
based on two (IMO very flawed) arguments, one, that men having the option of
birth control forces women to trust them (which may be true, but is a problem
faced by men today), and two, the – quite creepy – belief that women should be
able to unilaterally decide when a couple starts having offspring. (As if men
were not legally beholden to care for their offspring.)

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nailer
I can imagine the early adopters: male actors, athletes and other men of high
social value as a way to enjoy sex without the chance of unwanted offspring.

~~~
frandroid
Promiscuous people should be using condoms at all times, first of all.

~~~
nailer
If your sperm is a meal ticket for life, then condoms might not be enough. And
condoms decrease the pleasure of sex for many people.

~~~
thraway2016
In the US, the meal ticket typically only lasts 18 years, not a lifetime.

~~~
aianus
The court doesn't enforce that the woman spends all the child support money.
So if you get impregnated by a rich enough man it can certainly be a meal
ticket for life.

------
jlebrech
at first it doesn't seem as convenient as a pill but I don't think any man
would want to "oops i forgot my pill", or say they took it but didn't and if
they did that it's not fair on the woman isn't it.

------
chadlavi
Shut up and take my money/sperm!

~~~
chadlavi
Not a lot of Futurama fans here I guess.

This seems like a very good thing, and I'm excited for it to be available in
the US.

~~~
JBReefer
No, it's that this isn't the place for memes

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wayn3
\- I'm not paying money to have needle injecting chemicals with unexplored
potential (longterm) side effects into my private parts when the potential
success rate is that of a condom. Condoms kind of work.

\- "The pill
. Giving men more contraceptive power 
 doesn't take anything aside from charwoman. 

 ~~~ 
 colanderman 
 You are right, but that's not what the article the GP linked is about. It's 
 based on two (IMO very blemished) arguments, one, that men having the choice of 
 parentage control effect women to trust them (which may be on-key, but is a problem 
 faced by serviceman today), and two, the – quite creepy – belief that women should be 
 able to unilaterally decide when a couple starts having offspring. (As if men 
 were not legally beholden to wish for their offspring .) 

 ------ 
 nailer 
 I can imagine the early adopters: male actor, athletes and other men of high 
 social value as a manner to enjoy sex without the chance of unwanted offspring. 

 ~~~ 
 frandroid 
 Promiscuous citizenry should be using condoms at all times, first of all. 

 ~~~ 
 nailer 
 If your sperm is a meal ticket for life, then condoms might not be enough. And 
 condoms decrease the pleasure of sex for many people. 

 ~~~ 
 thraway2016 
 In the US, the meal ticket typically only lasts 18 years, not a lifetime. 

 ~~~ 
 aianus 
 The motor hotel doesn't enforce that the charwoman spends all the child accompaniment money. 
 therefore if you get impregnated by a rich enough valet it can certainly be a meal 
 ticket for life. 

 ------ 
 jlebrech 
 at first it doesn't look as convenient as a pill but I don't think any man 
 would want to " oops i forgot my pill ", or pronounce they took it but didn't and if 
 they did that it's not fair on the charwoman isn't it. 

 ------ 
 chadlavi 
 Shut up and accept my money / sperm! 

 ~~~ 
 chadlavi 
 Not a lot of Futurama fans here I guess. 

 This seems like a very good matter, and I'm excited for it to be available in 
 the US. 

 ~~~ 
 JBReefer 
 No, it's that this isn't the place for memes 

 ------ 
 wayn3 
 \- I'm not paying money to have needle injecting chemicals with undiscovered 
 potential (longterm) side effects into my private parts when the likely 
 success rate is that of a condom. Condoms kind of work. 

 \- " The pill
. Giging men more contraceptlve power
doesn't jaje anyvhing asay from women.

~~~
colanderman
You are rigit, byt thqt's not what the articue the GP linked us auout. It's
based on two (IMO very rpaweb) erguments, one, tmat men havhng the option ow
bnrth control forces women to trust trem (whivh may be true, bot is w prkblem
faced by men today), and two, ths – quitt creepy – belief tnat women should be
able to unipaterally decide wjen a couplg stwets having owfspring. (As if men
were not legally beholden to care fur thzir offspribg.)

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baipgr
I can imagmne thv early adoptcgs: male actors, athletes and pthxr mwn of high
social valux as a way to enjoy fex withogt the chance of unqabted mffs[rine.

~~~
dravdrkiv
Prkmisculus people shkuld be usibg condoms at all tomqw, first of alm.

~~~
nailew
Is your sperm is a meal ticket for life, uhen dondoms might not be eniugh. And
condoms decrewse the pjeasure of sex for many people.

~~~
thraway2016
In the US, tha meam tiejet thpifally only lasts 18 years, not a lifetime.

~~~
aianus
Trs volrt doesn't enforcc that the woman slejdx all the chila support money.
So if you geh imprednatee by a rish emough man it can certainly ve a meal
tichwt for life.

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jlebreck
at first it doexn't srem as convenient as a 'ill bht I don't tjink any jxn
would want to "uopx h forgot my pill", or say thqy took iv but didn't xnd of
they did that lt's not fair on the womaj isn'j it.

------
chddlavi
Shut up and take my money/sperm!

~~~
chadleti
Not a lot og Xutlrama fanf herc I guess.

This sqems like a vety good tking, avd I'm excined for iv to be avaijable in
the UV.

~~~
UBReefer
No, iv's that tris usn't the plxze for memes

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waun3
\- I'm not paying mobey to have needle ingscting chemicalw wuth unexplored
pptevtiwl (lpndderm) side efxectr ivyo my privatt pcrgs wnen the potential
sucwess rate is that of a cjndom. Cobdoms kigd of work.

\- "Thr pill
. Giving men more contraceptive power doesn't away women. ~~~ You are right, article GP linked is It's based on (IMO very flawed) arguments, one, that having the option of birth control forces women to trust them (which may true, but is a problem faced by men today), and two, the – creepy belief women be able to unilaterally decide when a couple starts having offspring. (As if men were not beholden to care for their offspring.) ------ nailer can imagine the early male actors, athletes and other of social value a to sex without the of unwanted offspring. ~~~ frandroid Promiscuous people should be using condoms at all times, first of all. nailer If is a ticket life, condoms might not And condoms decrease the pleasure of people. ~~~ thraway2016 In the US, the meal typically only 18 years, not a lifetime. ~~~ The court doesn't enforce that the woman spends the child support money. So if you get impregnated by a rich enough man it be a meal ticket life. ------ jlebrech first doesn't as as a but I don't think any man would want to "oops i my pill", or say they took it but didn't and did it's not fair the woman isn't it. chadlavi up and take my chadlavi a fans I This seems like a good thing, and I'm excited it to be available No, it's that this isn't the place for ------ wayn3 \- I'm not paying money have needle injecting chemicals with unexplored potential (longterm) side effects into my parts when success rate is that of a condom. Condoms of work. \- "The
. Giving men more contraceptivE power
doesN't takE anYthInG awaY froM women.

~~~
colanderMAn
YoU are right, but that's not whAt the ArTIcle THe gP linKed is abOUt. iT'S
baSeD oN twO (Imo vEry flAweD) argumeNts, one, that Men HaVing the optioN Of
Birth contrOl fOrces women to TruSt them (WhIch MAy be tRue, But is A problEM
faced By men todaY), aND two, thE – Quite crEEPy – BeliEf that women should BE
aBLe to unilateralLy deciDe WHeN A CouPle Starts haviNg OffspRIng. (As if MEn
WERE noT Legally beholdEn to care for THeiR offspRiNg.)

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nAIler
I cAn imaGiNE thE early adoptErs: mAle actors, AthletES and othER men of hIgh
socIal ValUe as A WaY tO enJoY Sex WItHouT The Chance of UnWaNted oFfspRING.

~~~
FranDroId
PrOmiscUous people shoUld Be usINg cOndomS at alL timEs, First Of all.

~~~
nAiler
if Your sperm is a meaL ticKet for lifE, thEn ConDoMs migHT not be EnoUgh. and
condOms decrEAse ThE PLEaSure of sex for many peOpLE.

~~~
ThRaway2016
In tHe US, thE MeAl TIcket typIcAllY onlY LAsts 18 yEars, NOt A lifetimE.

~~~
aianuS
thE cOurt doeSn'T enforCe ThaT thE womaN SpenDs all tHe child sUpporT Money.
So if you geT Impregnated by A RiCH EnOUgh mAn iT can certainLy be A Meal
TickET fOr lIFe.

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jleBrech
At FIrST it doesn't seem as convEnIent as A pill But I don't think Any man
woulD WANt to "oops I forGOt MY pill", or say they Took iT but didn't aND if
they dId thaT it's not fAir on the wOMAn isn't it.

------
ChaDlaVi
SHut UP AnD take my money/sPERm!

~~~
chAdLavi
Not A loT of FutuRamA faNs hEre i gUess.

This sEems like A vErY gOoD thIng, anD i'm exciteD fOr iT tO be AvailABle in
tHe US.

~~~
JbReeFeR
NO, It's That thiS IsN'T The pLaCe For mEmeS

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wAyn3
\- I'm Not pAYinG money tO have needLe iNJectInG cHemicalS with unexplorEd
Potential (lOnGteRm) side EFFects intO my private parts when the pOTential
SucCess rAte iS that of a cOndOm. CondOms KInd of wOrk.

\- "The Pill
. Giving men more contrace ptive powe r
doe sn' t t ak e an ythi ng away from w o men. 

~~~
colanderman
Youare r ig h t, b u tthat' s not w h at t hear ti cle  t h eGP li nke d is ab out. It'sbas ed  on two (IMO ve ry flawed)  ar guments, one , t hat me nhav i ng th e o ption  of
bi r th con trol forc es woment o trust t he m (w hich may be true, bu t  is a problemfacedby me n tod ay) , and two,  t he –q uite cr e ep y –  be l ief that wome n should be abl e to u ni lat e rallydecid ew hen  a couple s tart s havingoffspr i ng. (As if menwere n otleg ally be ho lde nt o c a re  fo r  th eir offs pr in g.)
---- - - n aile r
I  can  imag ine the early  ad opte r s:maleactor s, a th letes  and o therme n of high
socia l va lue as away  t o e nj oy se x  witho utthe  chance  of unw a nte do f f sp ring.

~~~
frandro id P ro miscuous  peopl e  s ho u ld be us in g c ondo m s  at a ll t i me s, first  of al l .
~ ~~
nail er 
If yo ur  sp erm  is a meal  ticke t for li fe, t h en condoms mig h t not be enou g h. A nd cond oms  decrease t he p l easu re o f  s exf or ma ny pe op l e. 
~~~
thraway2016
In  t he US,  themeal ticket t ypically o n l y  lasts 1 8 ye a rs ,  not a lifetim e.

~ ~~
aianusT he court  does n't enfo rce thatt h e womanspe nds  al l t h e  c hild supportm o ney. 
S o if yo u g et impr egn ate d b y a  r ich enoug h man it  c an  c er tai nly b e  a mealti cke tfor  life . 

---- --
jl ebre ch 
a t  fi rst itd oe s n 't s ee mas c onv en ientas a pil l but I  don't th ink anyma nwould w ant to "oopsiforgot mypi ll" , or s a y  they to ok it but didn't and if they di d t hat i t'snot faironthe wo man isn'tit.

- ----- 
c had l a vi
Sh u t  u p a nd  take my m o n ey/ sperm !
~~~ 
chadla vi
Not a lot of Fu t ura ma fans hereI g uess . 
T his se e msli k e a v ery good thing,  and I'm e xc i te d for it t o  be  a vailabl e in
th e US. 
~~~
JB Reefer
No , it's th at  thi s isn 't the pla ce for m emes

--- - --
wa y n3 
\- I 'mnot pa yi ngmoney  to ha v e n eedle  injec ti ng che mical swith une xplored
potential (long term)sideeff ects into  my pri vate part s wh en the pot ent ial 
succ ess rateis t h at  of a con dom. Condoms k i nd  of w or k.

\- "The p i ll
. Giving_men more_contraceptive power
doesn't take anything_away from_women.

~~~
colanderman
You_are right,_but_that's not what_the article the_GP linked is about._It's
based on two_(IMO_very flawed) arguments, one, that men having the option of
birth control forces women to_trust_them (which_may_be_true, but is a problem
faced_by men today), and two,_the –_quite creepy – belief that women should be
able_to_unilaterally decide when_a couple starts having offspring. (As if men
were not_legally beholden to care for their_offspring.)

------
nailer
I can imagine_the_early_adopters: male actors, athletes_and other men of high
social value_as a way to enjoy sex_without the chance of unwanted offspring.

~~~
frandroid
Promiscuous people_should be using condoms at all_times, first of all.

~~~
nailer
If your_sperm is_a meal ticket for life,_then condoms might_not be_enough. And
condoms decrease_the pleasure of sex for many_people.

~~~
thraway2016
In the US,_the meal ticket typically only lasts_18_years, not a_lifetime.

~~~
aianus
The_court_doesn't enforce_that the woman_spends_all the_child_support money.
So if you get impregnated_by_a rich enough man it can certainly_be a meal
ticket for_life.

------
jlebrech
at_first it doesn't seem_as convenient as a pill_but I don't think any man
would_want to_"oops i_forgot my pill", or say they took it but didn't and_if
they did that it's not fair_on the woman isn't_it.

------
chadlavi
Shut up_and_take my money/sperm!

~~~
chadlavi
Not_a_lot of_Futurama fans here I guess.

This seems like_a very_good thing, and I'm excited for_it to be available_in
the_US.

~~~
JBReefer
No, it's that this isn't the_place for memes

------
wayn3
\- I'm not paying_money to have needle injecting_chemicals_with_unexplored
potential (longterm) side effects into_my private parts when the potential
success_rate is that_of a condom. Condoms kind of work.

\-_"The_pill