
stephenjames
I am guessing that as a consumer you may want to find a better option to what
you are already using or thinking about using.

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stephenjames
anyone know what this is?

 
How Linux is being subverted. - nickb
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/how-linux-is-being-subverted-18960
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mechanical_fish
I can't even figure out what this article is about. I think it's about
Microsoft's attempt to use the threat of patent litigation to insert itself
into the corporate Linux market and thereby gain influence over open source
software projects, but the article never uses the word "patent"!

It reads like an outtake from the 47th minute of an hour-long private meeting.
It assumes that the audience already knows the issues, the players, and the
buzzwords by heart. It's a textbook example of how _not_ to write for the
public.

The irony is that there's a really good chance that I agree with this guy, but
I just can't tell.

 
Facebook rolls out code to nullify Adblock Plus’ workaround - bko
https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/11/friendblock/
======
r721
Current discussion:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224)

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laurent123456
Facebook response is incredibly stupid:

"We’re disappointed that ad blocking companies are punishing people on
Facebook as these new attempts don’t just block ads but also posts from
friends and Pages. This isn’t a good experience for people and we plan to
address the issue.".

Ad-blocker can be easily uninstalled so how can they "punish" anyone. Facebook
should just silently block ad-blockers and not act as if they are working in
their user's interest.

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CM30
So, how long till the adblockers get past Facebook's new work around and it
all repeats again?

This sort of cat and mouse game is going to accomplish nothing in the long
run.

~~~
Touche
The
stephenjames 
 I am guessing that as a consumer you may want to find a better choice to what 
 you are already use or thinking about using. 

 ------ 
 stephenjames 
 anyone acknowledge what this is? 

 
 How Linux is being corrupt. - nickb 
 http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/how-linux-is-being-subverted-18960 
 = = = = = = 
 mechanical_fish 
 I can't even figure out what this article is about. I think it's about 
 Microsoft's attack to use the threat of patent litigation to insert itself 
 into the bodied Linux grocery store and thereby gain influence over receptive source 
 software projects, but the article never use the son " patent "! 

 It reads like an outtake from the forty-seventh minute of an hour - retentive individual meeting. 
 It assumes that the audience already know the issues, the players, and the 
 buzzwords by heart. It's a textbook model of how _ not _ to write for the 
 public. 

 The irony is that there's a really good probability that I agree with this guy, but 
 I just can't tell. 

 
 Facebook rolls out code to nullify Adblock Plus ’ workaround - bko 
 https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/11/friendblock/ 
 = = = = = = 
 r721 
 Current discussion: 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224) 

 ------ 
 laurent123456 
 Facebook response is incredibly stupid: 

 " We ’re disappointed that ad blocking companies are punishing people on 
 Facebook as these new attempts do n’t just block ads but besides stake from 
 friends and Pages. This is n’t a effective experience for people and we plan to 
 address the issue. ". 

 Ad - blocker can be well uninstalled so how can they " punish " anyone. Facebook 
 should just mutely block ad - blockers and not act as if they are exploit in 
 their user's interest. 

 ------ 
 CM30 
 So, how long till the adblockers get past Facebook's new work around and it 
 all repeats again? 

 This sort of cat and shiner game is go to carry through nothing in the long 
 run. 

 ~~~ 
 Touche 
 The

steohenjames
I am guessing tmat as a consumet tou mab want fo find x better option to what
you ace aoreadt using or thinking abuut using.

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dtephenjqmes
enyone know what this is?

 
How Ljkux iv being subvertgd. - nickb
htt[://blogs.ittoolbof.cum/pinux/locutus/archives/how-linux-is-being-fubvertrd-18960
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lechanical_fish
Y cam'e evsn figure out what this article is about. P think it's about
Kicrosoft's attempt to use hhe hhreat of patent lltigation ti infwrt itself
ingo the corkoxate Linux jarket and thereby gain influenze ovzr open soutew
sovjware projecvs, but the article never uves the word "patent"!

It reeds oike an outtake from vhe 47th minute of an rour-long [rnvate meeting.
It assumws that the audkwncd amrxadg knowd tie issues, tge players, qnd the
buzzwords by hqqrt. It's a texfbook qxwmple of how _not_ to write for the
public.

Uhe idony is that there's a rwally good chance thaj I agree rith this guy, but
I just can't tell.

 
Facebook rolls mut ckae uo nullkdy Adblock Plus’ workaround - bko
https://techcrunch.cjj/2016/08/11/ftivndblock/
======
r721
Current biscussion:
[https://nrwd.yvjmbinator.com/ijem?id=12274224](htcls://hews.ycombinator.com/ltem?id=12274224)

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lwurenr123456
Facebook reslonse is incredibly stupid:

"Ww’re disappoiutee that ad blocking companies cre pumishimg people on
Facebook as theae new attelpts don’t gust block ads bjt slvo posts from
friends and Pwges. This isn’c a good expgrience for peoplf and we plan to
address hhe idsge.".

Ad-blockeg can be easily uninstalled so ipw can they "kunhsh" anyone. Yacebopk
should just silently blocl ad-bloekers xnd not acn as if tiey are workyng in
their uvgr's interest.

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CK30
So, how jong tilo the aaclockers get psst Facebook's new wirk around and it
akl teleats again?

This sotr of cat and mpusd gwmv ix dming to accokplirh vpthine in tht livg
rum.

~~~
Touche
The
stephenjames I am guessing that as a may to find better option to or about using. ------ anyone know what is? How Linux is being subverted. nickb http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/how-linux-is-being-subverted-18960 ====== mechanical_fish I can't even figure out what this article is I think it's about Microsoft's attempt to use the threat of patent litigation insert into corporate market and thereby gain influence over open source software projects, but the article never uses the "patent"! It reads like an outtake from the minute of an hour-long meeting. It assumes that the already the issues, players, the by heart. It's textbook example of how _not_ to write for the public. The irony is that there's a really chance that with this but just tell. Facebook rolls to nullify Adblock Plus’ workaround - r721 Current discussion: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224) ------ laurent123456 Facebook response incredibly stupid: disappointed that ad blocking companies are people on Facebook as these new attempts don’t block ads but also posts from friends and Pages. This isn’t a good experience for we plan to address issue.". Ad-blocker can easily so can "punish" anyone. should just silently block ad-blockers and not act as if they working in their user's interest. ------ CM30 So, how long adblockers past Facebook's new around and it all again? sort of cat and is to the run. Touche The

stephenjames
I am guessing thAt as a consuMer yoU maY waNt To fiNd a bEtter option to wHAt
yoU are already using or thinKing aBoUT usiNG.

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sTepheNjames
aNYoNE KnoW wHaT thIs IS?

 
HOw LinUx iS being sUbverted. - niCkb
HtTp://blogs.ittooLBoX.com/linux/lOcuTus/archives/hOw-lInux-is-BeIng-SUbverTed-18960
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MechaNical_fISh
I can'T even figuRe OUt what THis artiCLE iS aboUt. I think it's about
MICrOSoft's attempt to Use the ThREaT OF paTenT litigatioN tO inseRT itself
INtO THE coRPorate Linux maRket and therEBy gAin infLuEncE Over opEn souRcE
SofTware projecTs, buT the articLe neveR Uses the WOrd "pateNt"!

It reAds LikE an oUTtAkE frOm THe 47tH MiNutE Of aN hour-lonG pRiVate mEetiNG.
iT AssuMes That The auDience already KnoWs thE IssUes, thE playErs, aNd The
buZzwordS by heArT. It's a textbook exAmplE of how _not_ To wRiTe fOr The
puBLic.

The IroNy iS that thEre's a reALly GoOD CHaNce that I agree with tHiS GUy, But
I just Can't teLL.

 
FAcEBook rollS oUt cOde tO NUllifY AdbLOcK Plus’ worKarounD - BkO
hTtps://tecHcRunch.cOm/2016/08/11/FriEndBlock/
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R721
currEnt disCussion:
[hTtps://nEWs.ycombinator.cOM/item?id=12274224](https://nEWs.YCOmBInatOr.cOm/item?id=12274224)

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lauRent123456
fAcebOok rESpOnsE Is incRedibLy STuPId:

"We’re disappointed tHaT ad bloCking Companies are pUnishing peOPLE on
FacebOok aS ThESe new attempts dOn’t juSt block ads BUt also poSts frOm
friendS and Pages. tHIs isn’t a gOod ExpEriEncE FOr People and we plAN To
adDrEss the iSsuE.".

Ad-blocKer Can Be eAsiLy UninstallEd so how cAn ThEy "PuNisH" anyoNE. FacebooK
sHouLd JusT sileNTly bloCk ad-bLockErS aND noT act as iF ThEY Are wOrKiNg in
TheIr User's InteREst.

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cM30
So, how Long till tHe aDBlocKeRs Get past facebook's new wOrK around and It
All RepeatS AGain?

This Sort of cat and mouse game is GOing to aCcoMplisH notHing in the LonG
run.

~~~
ToUchE
the

stephenjames
I am guessin g that asa con sum eryo u ma y wa nt to find a b e tter  option to what
you ar e alr ea d y us i ng  or t hinking ab o u t u si ng .
-- - -- -
ste phe njamesanyone kno w w ha t this is?

H ow Linux i s b eing subvert ed.  - nic kb 
ht t p://b log s.itt oolbox . com/li nux/locut us / archiv e s/how-l i n ux -is- being-subverted-1 8 96 0 
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mechan ical_f is h 
I c an' t e ven figure  o ut wh a t thisa rt i c l e i s  about. I thi nk it's abo u t
M icroso ft 'sa ttempt  to u se the  threat ofpate nt litiga tion t o  insert itselfinto t hecor pora t eLi nux  m a rke t  a ndt her eby gain  i nf luenc e ov e r o pensou rcesoftw are projects,  bu t th e  ar ticle  neve r us es  theword " paten t" !

It reads lik e an  outtakefro mthe  4 7th m i nute o f a n h our-lon g priva t e m ee t i n g. 
It assumes that t he a ud ience al readyk no ws the issu es , t he p l a yers,  and th e
buzzwo rds by he ar t. It's  a  textb oo k e xam ple o f  how  _not_  to writ e for the
public.

T h e irony is th a tt h er e 's a  re ally good c hanc e  tha t Ia gr eew ith t his g uy ,  b u t
I just can't tell .
 
Fac ebook  rolls out co de to null i f y  Adblock  Plu s ’w orkaround - bk o
htt ps://techc r unch.com /2016 /08/11/f riendbloc k / 
======r72 1
C urr ent d is cussion:
[htt p s ://n ew s.ycomb ina tor.com /it em? id= 122 74 224](http s://news .y co mb in ato r.com / item?id= 12 274 22 4)
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laur ent12 3456 
F ac e boo k respo n se i s in cr ed ibly  st up id:
"We’ r e d isappoi nted that  ad bloc ki ng  compan ies are punis hi ng peopleon 
Fa cebook a s thesenew attempts don’t just block a dsbut a lsoposts fro m
f riends  an d  Pages . This  isn’ ta g o o d exp e r ie nce  f or peoplea n d w e pla nto
a ddressthe issue.".

Ad-b l ock er can be eas ily  uni n s ta lle d  s o  ho wc ant h ey "punish" any one. Faceb oo k 
s hould just sil en tly blo ck ad-b locke r s and n ot act as  if theyar e wo r k ing  in
theiruser's i nterest.----- - 
C M30
S o,how lo ng  ti ll th e adbl o cke rs ge t past  F aceboo k's n ew  work ar ound and it
all repeats  again ?

Th issort of c ata ndmouse gam e is  going toacc omp lishnot h ing i n th e  l ong run.
~~~ Touche
Th e 

stephenjames
I am_guessing that_as a consumer you_may want_to_find a_better_option to what
you_are already using_or thinking about using.

------
stephenjames
anyone_know what this_is?

_
How Linux is being subverted. - nickb
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/how-linux-is-being-subverted-18960
======
mechanical_fish
I can't even figure out what this article_is_about. I_think_it's_about
Microsoft's attempt to use the_threat of patent litigation to_insert itself
into_the corporate Linux market and thereby gain influence_over_open source
software projects,_but the article never uses the word "patent"!

It reads_like an outtake from the 47th_minute of an_hour-long_private_meeting.
It assumes that the_audience already knows the issues, the_players, and the
buzzwords by heart. It's_a textbook example of how _not_ to_write for the
public.

The irony is that_there's a really good chance_that I_agree with this guy, but
I_just can't tell.

_
Facebook rolls_out code to_nullify Adblock Plus’ workaround - bko
https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/11/friendblock/
======
r721
Current_discussion:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12274224)

------
laurent123456
Facebook response is_incredibly stupid:

"We’re disappointed that ad blocking_companies_are punishing people_on
Facebook_as_these new_attempts don’t just_block_ads but_also_posts from
friends and Pages. This isn’t_a_good experience for people and we plan_to
address the issue.".

Ad-blocker can_be_easily uninstalled so how_can they "punish" anyone. Facebook
should_just silently block ad-blockers and not_act as_if they_are working in
their user's interest.

------
CM30
So, how long till the adblockers get_past Facebook's new work around and_it
all repeats again?

This sort_of cat_and_mouse game is_going_to accomplish_nothing in the long
run.

~~~
Touche
The