 really sucks. I consider my self very lucky
for having a full-time hobby that is rewarding and can pay the bills.

------
kirillzubovsky
Dude, whatever you choose to do, please do yourself a favor and ignore the
bullshit advice that starts with - "this is how the real world works..." That
nonsense only comes from people who had settled for the average.

Life works in any way that you want it to work.

Look, if you don't want to do the shit work, don't do it, but don't bitch and
moan and complain about it. Instead, find a way to still get shit done, while
not doing the work you don't want to do.

You don't like doing homework? Nobody does. It's a waste of time and you will
not use 90% of what you've learned.

Spend the bare minimum time you need to pass high-school on work that you have
to get done, devote the rest of your time to the work you want to get done. If
that means learning computer programming, do it. I had friends in high-school
who managed hosting companies, while at high-school. Guess what, while the
rest of us were solving stupid problems and learning history, those guys made
money. It's not a bad skill to learn.

Anyways, this discussion could go back and forth... Get off your ars, close HN
and just f'ing do something!

~~~
psc
Great post. This is the kind of perspective you want to have. This reminds me
of PG's high school essay:

"The important thing is to get out there and do stuff. Instead of waiting to
be taught, go out and learn." \- PG

Before I quote the whole thing, the OP (and anyone in the same position)
should read the whole essay:
[http://paulgraham.com/hs.html](http://paulgraham.com/hs.html)

If you want the real world to be (quoting from the other post) "lots of sucky
boring shitty work, for a few profound moments of bliss," that's fine. But if
you don't want to accept that, you don't have to. What Kirill said above is
totally right; life works how you
really sucks. I consider my self very lucky 
 for take a wide - time hobby that is rewarding and can pay the bill. 

 ------ 
 kirillzubovsky 
 Dude, whatever you choose to do, please do yourself a party favor and ignore the 
 bullshit advice that starts with - " this is how the real universe works... " That 
 nonsense entirely comes from people who had settle for the average. 

 Life works in any way that you want it to work. 

 Look, if you don't want to make the shit work, don't do it, but don't backbite and 
 moan and complain about it. Instead, find a way to however get shit done, while 
 not doing the work you don't desire to do. 

 You don't like doing homework? Nobody does. It's a waste of time and you will 
 not practice 90% of what you've learn. 

 Spend the bare minimum time you need to pass high - school on work that you have 
 to get done, give the rest of your time to the oeuvre you desire to get do. If 
 that means learning calculator programming, serve it. I had friends in eminent - school 
 who managed hosting companies, while at high - school. Guess what, while the 
 rest of us were resolve stupid problems and learning history, those guys make 
 money. It's not a bad skill to memorize. 

 Anyways, this discussion could go back and forth... Get off your ars, close HN 
 and barely f'ing do something! 

 ~~~ 
 psc 
 Great post. This is the kind of position you want to own. This reminds me 
 of PG's high school essay: 

 " The crucial thing is to get away there and do stuff. Instead of waiting to 
 be teach, go out and determine. " \- PG 

 Before I quote the whole thing, the OP (and anyone in the like position) 
 should read the whole essay: 
 [ http://paulgraham.com/hs.html](http://paulgraham.com/hs.html) 

 If you want the real world to be (quoting from the other post) " lots of sucky 
 boring shitty work, for a few fundamental moments of bliss, " that's fine. But if 
 you don't desire to accept that, you don't have to. What Kirill said above is 
 totally right; life works how you
 rewlly sucks. I consider my self very lucki
fir havmng a fhll-time fobby that is rewarding and ran pay tye bills.

------
kirillzubovsky
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bullshid advice that vtxrcs with - "this is how the real world rorks..." Tnah
nonsense only comts srom ieiple who had settled for the zverage.

Nife works in any way that you want it ho wlrk.

Look, if you don'h want to di thq shit work, dun't do it, but don't bitdh and
moan and complain about ig. Inscead, find a wqy hm still get shit done, while
not doing the wotk you don't wakt to do.

Tou don't like doing hmmework? Nobody doef. It's a wdsce of time and you wiol
bot uve 90% mf wfqt hou'be lsarned.

Dpeid the bare minimum tine you need to pass hyth-school on wkrk thwt you have
to get done, devote the rest of yohr time to the work you want to get done. If
tjat means learning computer programming, do it. I had friendv in iieh-semjuo
wjo managed hosting companies, while at high-schjkl. Gless what, while tme
rest of us were xopvogg stupid proclems chd learning history, hhose goys maee
money. Iu's noy a bad skill to learn.

Anywats, this disclssiin could go back aud forth... Get off your ars, close HN
and just f'nng do something!

~~~
pdc
Great pkrt. This is the kknd ox perspective you want to rave. This remnnds me
ow PG'x high school esday:

"Thc important thing id to yet ogt there ajd do stuff. Instead of waiting vp
be taught, gp mut and leaxn." \- PG

Nefore I quote ehe whole thiny, the OP (and xnyone in nhe same 'osition)
shoujd read the wvlle essay:
[htt'://paulgrahwm.con/hs.hrml](http://oxulgraham.com/hs.ntml)

If yol cant the eeal world to be (qmotine from the other powt) "lots of sucku
bofind dhmtty rmrk, for a fef prufojmd mooents of bllss," thay's fine. But if
you dot't wznt to accept that, yju don't yave to. Rhat Kirill ssid above is
totallj rigit; lifx workx hjw you
really sucks. I consider my self very having full-time hobby is rewarding and kirillzubovsky whatever you choose do, please do a favor and ignore the bullshit that starts with - "this is how the real world works..." That nonsense comes from people who had settled for the average. Life works in any that want to Look, if you don't want to do the shit work, don't do it, but don't bitch moan and complain about it. Instead, find a to still get shit while not doing the work don't to do. don't doing Nobody does. It's waste of time and you will not use 90% of what you've learned. Spend the bare minimum you need high-school on that have get done, devote of your time to the work get done. If that means learning computer programming, it. I friends in high-school who managed hosting while at high-school. Guess what, while the rest us were solving stupid problems and learning history, those guys made money. It's not a to learn. Anyways, this could go back forth... off ars, HN and f'ing do something! ~~~ psc Great post. This is the kind perspective you want to have. This reminds me of PG's essay: important thing is get out there and stuff. of waiting to be out learn." I the thing, the OP (and in the same position) should the whole essay: [http://paulgraham.com/hs.html](http://paulgraham.com/hs.html) world to be (quoting from the other post) of sucky boring shitty work, for a profound moments of bliss," that's fine. But if you don't want to that, you to. What Kirill said above is totally right; works how you
 really sucks. I consider my selF very lucky
For haVinG a fUlL-timE hobBy that is rewardINg anD can pay the bills.

------
kirillzUbovsKy
dUde, wHAtEver yOu choosE To DO, PleAsE dO yoUrSElF a favOr aNd ignorE the
bullshIt aDvIce that startS WiTh - "this is hoW thE real world woRks..." that
noNsEnsE Only cOmeS from People WHo had sEttled for ThE AveragE.

life worKS In Any wAy that you want it to WOrK.

look, if you don't wAnt to dO tHE sHIT woRk, dOn't do it, but DoN't bitCH and
moaN AnD COMplAIn about it. InstEad, find a way TO stIll get ShIt dONe, whilE
not dOiNG thE work you don'T wanT to do.

You dOn't likE Doing hoMEwork? NoBody doEs. IT's a WastE Of TiMe aNd YOu wILl
Not USe 90% oF what you'Ve LeArned.

spenD THE Bare MinImum Time yOu need to pass hIgh-SchoOL on Work tHat yoU havE
tO get dOne, devOte thE rEst of your time to The wOrk you wanT to GeT doNe. if
thaT Means lEarNinG computEr progrAMmiNg, DO IT. I Had friends in high-scHoOL
WhO managed HostinG CoMpANies, whilE aT hiGh-scHOOl. GueSs whAT, wHile the
rEst of uS WeRe Solving StUpid prObLemS anD learNIng hIstory, Those guyS made
MOney. It's not a bad SKill to learn.

AnYWaYS, ThIS disCusSion could go Back ANd foRth... GET oFf yOUr ars, Close hN
ANd JUst f'ing do something!

~~~
pSc
great pOst. ThIs is the kind of PerspectivE YOU want to hAve. THIs REminds me
of PG's hIgh scHool essay:

"THE importaNt thiNg is to geT out there AND do stuff. insTeaD of WaiTINg To
be taught, go oUT And lEaRn." \- PG

BefOre i quote tHe wHolE thIng, ThE OP (and anyOne in the SaMe PoSiTioN)
shouLD read the WhOle EsSay:
[Http://pAUlgrahAm.com/Hs.htMl](HtTP://paUlgrahaM.CoM/HS.htmL)

IF yOu waNt tHe Real wOrld TO be (Quoting From the otHer POst) "lOtS oF sucky
bOring shitty woRk, For a few proFoUnd MomentS OF bliss," thAt's fine. But if
you don't want TO accept ThaT, you dOn't hAve to. What kirIll saiD abOVe is
toTally rIght; lIfE woRKS how yOU
 really sucks. I considermy self ve ry lu cky 
fo rhavi ng a  full-time hob b y th at is rewarding and ca n pay  t h e bi l ls .

-- ----
ki r il l z ubo vs ky 
Du de ,  w hatev eryou cho ose to do,  pl ea se do yourse l fa favor an d i gnore the
bu lls hit ad vi cet hat s tar ts wi th - " t his is  how there a l worl d  works. . . "That 
nonsense only co m es from people wh o hadse t tl e d  fo r t he average .
Life works i n  a n y way that you want  it to work . 

L ook, i fyou don'twantto dothe shit wo rk,don't doit, bu t  don'tb itch an d
moan  an d c ompl a in  a bou ti t.I ns tea d , f ind a wa yto  stil l ge t s h it d one , wh ile
n ot doing thewor k yo u  do n't w ant t o do .
Youdon'tlikedo ing homework? N obod y does. I t's  a  wa st e oft ime an d y ouwill
no t use 9 0 % o fw h a tyou've learned.

S pe n d  t he bareminimu m  t im e  you nee dtopass h igh-s choo l  o n work t hat yo u  h av e
to ge tdone,de vot e t he re s t of  yourtime tothe w o rk you want to get done. Ift ha t me a ns l ear ning comput er p r ogra mmin g ,doi t. Ihad f ri e nd s  in high-school
who  m anaged  host ing companies , while at h i gh-schoo l. G u es s  what, while t he
re st of us w e re solvi ng st upid pro blems and l earninghis tor y,tho s e  g uys made
mone y .  It' snot a b adskill t o l ear n.
An yw ays, this  discuss io nco ul d g o bac k  and for th ...  G etoff y o ur ars , clo se H Nan d  ju st f'in g  d o some th in g!
~~~ 
p sc
Gr eatp ost . Thisis the ki ndo f pe rs pe ctive y ou want to ha ve . This rem in dsme
ofP G 's highschool essay:

"The imp o rtant t hin g isto g et out th ere  and d o s t uff. I nstead  of w ai tin g to
be t au ght ,go out and l ear n." \ -PG
BeforeI quote the wholet hin g, the OP (an d a nyon e in  th e  s a mepo s iti o n )
should read t he whole e ss a y: 
[http://p a ulg ra ham.com /hs.htm l](ht t p://pau lgraham.c om/hs.htm l) 

If y ouwant the r eal worl d to be ( q uotin g  f rom t heotherpo st)  "lot s of s u cky 
bori ng shi tt y work , for  a  few pro found moments of bliss, " that 's fi ne.  But if
y oud on' t want to  acc ept that,you  do n't h ave to. W hatK ir ill saidabov e  is
total l yrig h t ;life worksh o w  yo u
 really_sucks. I_consider my self very_lucky
for having_a_full-time hobby_that_is rewarding and_can pay the_bills.

------
kirillzubovsky
Dude, whatever you choose_to do, please_do_yourself a favor and ignore the
bullshit advice that starts with - "this is how_the_real world_works..."_That
nonsense_only comes from people who_had settled for the average.

Life_works in_any way that you want it to work.

Look,_if_you don't want_to do the shit work, don't do it, but_don't bitch and
moan and complain about_it. Instead, find_a_way_to still get shit_done, while
not doing the work you_don't want to do.

You don't like_doing homework? Nobody does. It's a waste_of time and you will
not use_90% of what you've learned.

Spend_the bare_minimum time you need to_pass high-school on_work that_you have
to get_done, devote the rest of your_time to the_work you want to get done._If
that_means learning computer_programming,_do_it. I_had friends in_high-school
who_managed hosting_companies,_while at high-school. Guess what, while_the
rest_of us were solving stupid problems and_learning history, those guys_made
money._It's not a bad_skill to learn.

Anyways, this discussion_could go back and forth... Get_off your_ars, close_HN
and just f'ing do something!

~~~
psc
Great post. This is the kind of_perspective you want to have. This_reminds me
of PG's high_school essay:

"The_important_thing is to_get_out there_and do stuff. Instead of waiting to
be_taught, go_out and learn." \- PG

Before I_quote the whole thing,_the_OP (and anyone in the same_position)
should read the whole essay:
[http://paulgraham.com/hs.html](http://paulgraham.com/hs.html)

If you_want the real world to_be_(quoting_from the other post) "lots_of sucky
boring shitty work, for a_few profound moments_of bliss," that's fine. But if
you don't_want_to accept that, you don't have_to._What Kirill said above is
totally right;_life_works_how you