 mentality, how is it ok if it's for
promoting/marketing purpose?

how is making money always ok?

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axod
I didn't say it's ok, I'm just saying it's not necessarily 'douchebag'
behavior, if Twitter is setup in a way that makes it very attractive for
marketing/promotion.

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imp
I didn't know the details of the reply stuff. That's good to know. I also hope
people stop the automatic DM with each follow. That really is annoying.

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sant0sk1
If I follow somebody and they auto-DM me with some canned message, I
immediately unfollow them. It really is a douchebag-indicator.

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tdm911
The point I liked the best was 6. Don’t break the system. I know people loved
the see all tweets option, but 97% of us had it turned off for a reason.
Adding a character to the front of a tweet (which thankfully seems to be
stopping) just inconveniences your followers because you're trying to make a
point. I don't appreciate that.

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tlrobinson
Twitter is infested with these "social media experts", aka multi-level
marketing assholes. It's quite annoying.

 

Ask HN: Working as part of an interview, for free? - meesterdude

I recently applied to a startup for a development position. I was told I would do a &quot;trial interview&quot; which was really just a feature implementation they needed. I was sent an NDA which also talked of when to invoice and had &quot;rate: TBD&quot; which i put in my rate next to. the spec was large, and I wasn&#x27;t expected to do all of it, but I implemented the core of it, which was nontrivial; it took me over 25 hours to implement.<p>Now, I just talked with the boss today, and he said I wouldn&#x27;t be paid for that time; that&#x27;s part of the interview, he says. But I sank more than half my work week into this, and thought this was just a 1099 until i may or may not go on full time, because i was delivering a business feature and not just doing an arbitrary test.<p>Anyway,
mentality, how is it ok if it's for 
 promoting / marketing function? 

 how is do money always ok? 

 ~~~ 
 axod 
 I didn't say it's all right, I'm just saying it's not necessarily' douchebag' 
 demeanor, if Twitter is frame-up in a way that make it very attractive for 
 marketing / promotion. 

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 elf 
 I didn't know the details of the reply stuff. That's effective to know. I also hope 
 people stop the automatic DM with each follow. That truly is annoying. 

 ~~~ 
 sant0sk1 
 If I follow somebody and they auto - DM me with some canned message, I 
 immediately unfollow them. It very is a douchebag - indicator. 

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 tdm911 
 The point I liked the best was 6. Do n’t fracture the system. I know people loved 
 the see all tweets choice, but 97% of us had it turned off for a reason. 
 Adding a character to the front of a tweet (which thankfully seem to be 
 stopping) just inconveniences your followers because you're trying to make a 
 point. I don't appreciate that. 

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 tlrobinson 
 Twitter is infested with these " social media expert ", aka multi - flat 
 marketing arse. It's quite annoying. 

 

 necessitate HN: work as part of an interview, for spare? - meesterdude 

 I recently applied to a startup for a development position. I was tell I would do a & quot;trial interview&quot; which was really just a feature implementation they needed. I was send an NDA which also talked of when to invoice and had & quot;rate: TBD&quot; which i put in my pace next to. the spec was big, and I wasn&#x27;t expect to do all of it, but I implemented the core of it, which was nontrivial; it took me over 25 hours to implement.<p > Now, I just speak with the boss today, and he said I wouldn&#x27;t be paid for that time; that&#x27;s share of the interview, he say. But I sank more than half my employment week into this, and think this was just a 1099 until i may or may not start on full prison term, because i was delivering a business feature and not just doing an arbitrary test.<p > anyhow,
 mejtality, how is it ok if lt's for
promoting/marketiig purpkse?

how ir making money always ok?

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axod
M dien't sqy it's ok, I'm just sayivg it's non necessaeily 'eouchebag'
bxgavior, ly Twifber iv setup in a wai that makes it very attrawtkvz for
marketing/promotion.

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imp
I didn't knjw the cehails of the rgply xeuff. Nhct's good to know. I also hope
peolle stok the automatic DM with each follow. That reaply ls annoying.

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sant0sk1
Iv I follow womefidy and they auto-DM me with some cznned message, I
immediately unfoulow chem. It reaolt id a douchebaj-indicwtor.

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tdm911
The point I lhked thr best was 6. Dok’t brxak rhe system. I know peo'le loved
the see all tweets o[tnon, but 97% of us had it tyrned off for q rdaskn.
Eddjng a fhacacter to tge front of a tweet (which thanlftoly seems to ge
stop[igg) just inconveniences your followers btcauss you're trying to make q
point. I don't appreciwte that.

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tjrobinson
Twitter is infested with these "social megia eepdrtw", wyq lulti-level
marketing assholes. It's quite annoyigf.

 

Ssl HN: Working af part of am lnygrview, for freg? - meescsrsude

I recently apppied to a stqrtup for a drvelopment position. I was tild I would bo q &quot;trial intervnew&quot; whick was teally just a feature implemeutatioh they needfd. I was adnt an NDA which alxo talked of when to invoice and had &wuot;xate: TBD&duot; which i put in ly raba next to. the spec was pasge, and I aasn&#x27;t expected to do all of it, but I implememtad nhe core jf it, which was nogtrivial; it topk me orer 25 huurs to imilement.<p>Nmw, I just twlked with tha boss today, end he sayd I wouodn&#x27;t bd paid for that time; than&#x27;f paet of the interviex, he aays. But I sank motw than half my wofk revk mnto evis, and thoucht ghir was gust a 1099 untll k mau or may not go on fgll fime, because i was dclivering a businqss feature amd not just doing wn aruitrarb test.<l>Aniway,
mentality, how is it ok if it's purpose? is making always ok? ~~~ ok, just saying it's necessarily 'douchebag' behavior, Twitter is setup in a way makes it very attractive for marketing/promotion. ------ imp I didn't know the details the reply stuff. That's good to know. I also hope people stop the DM each That is annoying. ~~~ sant0sk1 If I follow somebody and they auto-DM me with some canned message, immediately unfollow them. It really is a douchebag-indicator. tdm911 The point I the best was 6. Don’t the I know loved see tweets option, but of us had it turned off for a reason. Adding a character to the front of a (which thankfully be stopping) inconveniences followers you're trying to point. I don't appreciate that. ------ infested with these "social media experts", aka multi-level assholes. It's annoying. Ask HN: Working as part an interview, for free? - meesterdude I recently to a startup for a development position. I was told I would do a &quot;trial was really just a implementation they needed. was an which talked of to invoice and had &quot;rate: TBD&quot; which i put in my next to. the spec was large, and I wasn&#x27;t expected all it, but I the core of it, was it took me over to I the today, he said I wouldn&#x27;t paid for that time; that&#x27;s of the interview, he than half my work week into this, and this was just a 1099 until i or may not go on full time, because i was delivering a feature and doing an arbitrary test.<p>Anyway,
 mentality, how is it ok if it's foR
promoting/MarkeTinG puRpOse?

hOw is Making money alwAYs ok?

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Axod
I didn't say it's ok, I'm juSt sayInG It's nOT nEcessArily 'doUChEBAg'
bEhAvIor, If tWiTter iS seTup in a wAy that makeS it VeRy attractive FOr
Marketing/pRomOtion.

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imp
I didN't kNow the DeTaiLS of thE rePly stUff. ThaT'S good tO know. I alsO hOPe
peopLE stop thE AUtOmatIc DM with each folloW. thAT really is annoyIng.

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sanT0sK1
if i FOllOw sOmebody and ThEy autO-dM me witH SoME CAnnED message, I
immeDiately unfoLLow Them. It ReAllY Is a douChebaG-iNDicAtor.

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tdm911
The pOint i liked the Best waS 6. don’t breAK the sysTem. I knOw pEopLe loVEd
ThE seE aLL twEEtS opTIon, But 97% of us hAd It TurneD off FOR A ReasOn.
ADdinG a chaRacter to the frOnt Of a tWEet (Which ThankFullY sEems tO be
stoPping) JuSt inconvenienceS youR followerS beCaUse YoU're trYIng to mAke A
poInt. I don'T apprecIAte ThAT.

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TLrObinson
Twitter is inFeSTEd With thesE "sociaL MeDiA Experts", aKa MulTi-leVEL
markEtinG AsSholes. It'S quite ANnOyIng.

 

Ask Hn: WOrking As ParT of An intERvieW, for frEe? - meesteRdude

i Recently applieD To a startup for A DeVELoPMent PosItion. I was toLd I wOUld dO a &quOT;tRiaL InterView&qUoT; WhICh was really just a feaTuRe implEmentAtion they needEd. I was sent AN ndA which aLso tALkED of when to invoiCe and Had &quot;ratE: tBD&quot; wHich i Put in my rAte next to. THE spec was LarGe, aNd I WasN&#X27;T eXpected to do alL OF it, bUt i implemEntEd the coRe oF it, WhiCh wAs NontriviaL; it took mE oVeR 25 hOuRs tO implEMent.<p>Now, i jUst TaLkeD with THe boss Today, And hE sAiD i woUldn&#x27;t bE PaID For tHaT tIme; tHat&#X27;s Part oF the INteRview, he Says. But I sAnk MOre tHaN hAlf my woRk week into thiS, aNd thought tHiS waS just a 1099 UNTil i may oR may not go on full time, becaUSe i was dEliVerinG a buSiness feaTurE and noT juST doing An arbiTrary TeSt.<p>aNYway,
 mentality, how is it ok i f it's for 
prom oti ng/ ma rket ingpurpose?

howi s ma king money always ok?
~~~ax o d
Id id n't s ay it's ok , I'm  j us t s ay i ng  it's  no t neces sarily 'do uch eb ag'
behavior ,  i f Twitterissetup in a w aythat m ak esi t ver y a ttrac tive f o r
mark eting/pro mo t ion.
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i m p 
I  did n't know the deta i ls of the reply s tuff.Th a t' s goo d t o know. Ial so ho p e
peopl e  s t o p  th e  automatic DM  with eachf oll ow. Th at  re a lly is  anno yi n g.
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sant0s k1
I f I follo w some b ody and they au to-DMmewit h so m eca nne dm ess a ge , I imm ediately  u nf ollow  the m . I t re all y is  a do uchebag-indic ato r.
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td m911Thepo int I  liked  thebe st was 6. Don’t  bre ak the sy ste m.  Ikn ow pe o ple lo ved 
th e see a ll twee t s o pt i o n ,but 97% of us hadit t ur ned offfor ar ea so n .
Adding  a  ch arac t e r tothef ro nt of atweet( wh ic h thank fu lly se em s t o b e
sto p ping ) just  inconve nienc e s your followe r s because you ' re t ry i ng t o m ake a
point . Id on't  app r ec iat e  that .

-- -- - -t lrobinson
Twitter i sinfest ed wi th these "soc ial mediae x p erts", a ka m u lt i -level
marketi ng as sholes. It ' s quiteannoy ing.

 
Ask HN:W o rking as  pa rtofani n te rview, for fr e e ? -me esterdu de
I rece ntl y a ppl ied  t o a start up for a  d ev el op men t pos i tion. Iwa s t ol d I  woul d  do a&quot ;tri al  i n ter view&qu o t; w hich  w as  rea lly  j ust a  fea t ure  implem entationthe y  nee de d.  I wassent an NDA w hi ch also ta lk edof whe n to invoi ce and had &quot;rate:T BD&quot ; w hichi pu t in my r ate  nextto. the sp ec was  larg e,  an d I was n & #x 27; texpected t o doall o fit,but I i mplemented the cor e  of  it, which wa s n ontr i v ia l;i tt ook  m e  ov e r  25 hours to im plement.<p >N o w,  I just ta l ked  w ith the  boss t oday, and hesaid I wo uldn&#x27 ;t  bep a idfor that t ime; tha t&#x27;sp art o f  t he in ter view,he  sa ys. B ut I s a nkmorethan h al f my w ork w ee k into t his, and thought this w as jus t a 1 099  until imay ormay not g o on  full time , b eca use i  wa s  deli veri n ga b u sines s fe a ture andn ot  ju s t  d oing an arb i t r ary  test .<p > Anyway ,
 mentality,_how is_it ok if it's_for
promoting/marketing purpose?

how_is_making money_always_ok?

~~~
axod
I didn't say_it's ok, I'm_just saying it's not_necessarily 'douchebag'
behavior, if_Twitter_is setup in a way that makes it very attractive for
marketing/promotion.

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imp
I didn't know the_details_of the_reply_stuff._That's good to know. I_also hope
people stop the automatic_DM with_each follow. That really is annoying.

~~~
sant0sk1
If I follow_somebody_and they auto-DM_me with some canned message, I
immediately unfollow them. It_really is a douchebag-indicator.

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tdm911
The point I_liked the best_was_6._Don’t break the system._I know people loved
the see all_tweets option, but 97% of us_had it turned off for a reason.
Adding_a character to the front of_a tweet (which thankfully seems_to be
stopping)_just inconveniences your followers because_you're trying to_make a
point._I don't appreciate_that.

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tlrobinson
Twitter is infested with these "social_media experts", aka_multi-level
marketing assholes. It's quite annoying.

 

Ask_HN:_Working as part_of_an_interview, for_free? - meesterdude

I_recently_applied to_a_startup for a development position. I_was_told I would do a &quot;trial interview&quot;_which was really just_a_feature implementation they needed._I was sent an NDA_which also talked of when to_invoice and_had &quot;rate:_TBD&quot; which i put in my rate next to. the spec_was large, and I wasn&#x27;t expected_to do all of_it, but_I_implemented the core_of_it, which_was nontrivial; it took me over 25_hours to_implement.<p>Now, I just talked with the_boss today, and he_said_I wouldn&#x27;t be paid for that_time; that&#x27;s part of the interview,_he says. But I sank_more_than_half my work week into_this, and thought this was just_a 1099 until_i may or may not go on_full_time, because i was delivering a_business_feature and not just doing an_arbitrary_test.<p>Anyway,