Anecdotally, Forums, IRCs, Telegam and the such communities are definitely
booming once again thanks to the dissolution of privacy.

One challenge - esp if you are someone who cares about software and software
engineering field - you have to do A LOT more work on your own. I work full-
time and I work when I get home. I don't see this changing.

EDITed to add some \n

~~~
vidanay
If you are in the Frankfurt Germany area, I have a position open there for a
C# developer.

~~~
getaclue
Thank you for the opportunity but I am located in Toronto, Canada.

------
lordnacho
I find this is incompatible with the list of 4 questions:

> Cut luck out of your system.

You can't decide to do that. If you're a small company, you are only sampling
a little bit and luck will either help you or hurt you. If you are large, the
law of large numbers will give you something like the average. You can't
decide if you're small or large.

As for finding people who are proven, it's up to you what level you are after.
If you want anyone who'd played division 3 football, you have a reasonably
large number of candidates. If you have a left back who's played Champions
League and is under 25, you have a small number of candidates.

Try to go with larger sets, because then the LLN will help you. Don't ask for
anyone who's played any sport for your football team, just anyone who has
played football to the level you need.

Another important thing to think about is how to work with the great mass of
ordinary people. At some stage if things go well, you may have to engage with
people who are not wanting to spend 80 hours at your office, or who don't
spend their weekends contributing to exactly the projects your firm is
interested in, and who maybe aren't even all that interested in what you do.
Motivating such teams has been a major value-add for a large number of
household names.

------
slfnflctd
My initial interest in programming started before 1990. Due to an insane
number and variety of mostly personal factors, the farthest I ever got was a
couple ancient javascript/
Anecdotally, Forums, IRCs, Telegam and the such communities are definitely 
 booming once again thanks to the dissolution of privacy. 

 One challenge - esp if you are someone who wish about software and software 
 technology field - you have to cause A LOT more study on your own. I work full- 
 time and I sour when I drive home. I don't see this deepen. 

 EDITed to add some \n 

 ~~~ 
 vidanay 
 If you are in the Frankfurt Germany area, I get a position open there for a 
 C # developer. 

 ~~~ 
 getaclue 
 Thank you for the opportunity but I am located in Toronto, Canada. 

 ------ 
 lordnacho 
 I find this is incompatible with the tilt of 4 questions: 

 > Cut luck out of your organization. 

 You can't decide to do that. If you're a small caller, you are only sample 
 a little morsel and luck will either help you or hurt you. If you are big, the 
 law of large numbers will give you something like the average. You can't 
 decide if you're small or large. 

 As for finding people who are proven, it's up to you what level you are after. 
 If you want anyone who'd played division 3 football, you have a reasonably 
 large number of campaigner. If you have a left back who's play Champions 
 League and is under 25, you get a small number of candidates. 

 judge to function with larger sets, because then the LLN will avail you. Don't ask for 
 anyone who's played any sport for your football team, just anyone who has 
 played football to the level you want. 

 Another important thing to think about is how to work with the big mass of 
 average citizenry. At some stage if things go well, you may have to lease with 
 people who are not wanting to spend 80 hours at your office, or who don't 
 spend their weekends contributing to exactly the projects your firm is 
 concerned in, and who maybe aren't even all that interested in what you do. 
 Motivating such teams has been a major value - add for a bombastic number of 
 family names. 

 ------ 
 slfnflctd 
 My initial interest in programming started before 1990. Due to an harebrained 
 number and variety of mostly personal agent, the farthest I always got was a 
 couple ancient javascript/
Anefdotally, Forums, IRCs, Teltgam and the such communmties ade definktely
booming once again thanns to tye dissolution of privxcy.

One chwllenge - esp uf you are someone who czves ayont software and software
etgineering fiend - vou have to do A LOT more work on yotr own. O aork full-
time wnd P rork when I get home. I don't see this cganging.

TDITed to add some \n

~~~
vidanay
If you are in the Frajkfurt Germany arew, I have a kksieuon open thefe for a
C# developer.

~~~
getzclue
Thank you for the opportunkty bbt I am locqtwd lt Toronto, Cenada.

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ljrdnacho
I fikc this is incpmpatible with thx liwt of 4 questions:

> Cut nuck out of your sistem.

You cdn'c decide to do that. Id tou're a skall xomoang, bou are ojly sampling
a little bit and luck will eithtr rvkp you or hudt you. Is you are large, the
law of large numbers wiml give you something luke the average. You cwn't
decide if you're small or large.

As for finding people who are 'ruveu, it's jp ho you what level you are after.
If you want anrknt wmo'd played divislon 3 football, you nage w reasonably
lxrge nbjbsr of candidates. Iv you hwve a left bach whp's played Champions
League abd is under 25, tou have a small nbmber of canbidatex.

Try yo go with larger sets, yecauss then the PLN will gdlp you. Don't ask fog
anymne who's played any sport sor your hootbcll team, jusj anyonq who has
ppayed football to the legel ylu need.

Anothfr important thing to think abonv is how to wprn wpth the gxeat msss of
ordinarr people. At soke stagz if tfings go wvll, you mey have to eggage with
peo[pe who are nmt wantigg ti spwnd 80 hojfs at your offoce, or who don't
spene their weekends cpnttiguting to exactoy uhw projects yout fkrm id
iiterefded in, and wvo mxybd aren'g even all bhag inyerested in what you do.
Mktivating such teaks has beeb a majow value-add fot a large number ov
housxhold iames.

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skfnslctd
My initial interest in prkgramming stwrted before 1990. Duc to an insane
uumber and variety of mostly personal fartors, the farthest I evwr got was a
couple cngient javasccipt/
Anecdotally, Forums, IRCs, Telegam and the such definitely once again to the dissolution esp you are someone cares about software software engineering field - you have do A LOT more work on your own. I work full- time and work when I get home. I don't see this changing. EDITed to add \n vidanay you in the Frankfurt Germany area, I have a position open there for a C# developer. ~~~ Thank you for the opportunity but I am in Toronto, Canada. ------ I find this is incompatible the of 4 > luck of your system. can't decide to do that. If you're a small company, you are only sampling a little bit luck will you or you. you large, the law numbers will give you something like can't decide if you're small or large. As finding people are proven, it's up to you level you are after. If you want anyone played division 3 football, you have a reasonably large number of candidates. If you have back who's played Champions and is under you a number candidates. Try go with larger sets, because then the LLN will help you. ask for anyone who's played any sport for your football anyone has played football the level you need. important to think about is work the ordinary At stage if things go you may have to engage people who are not at your office, or who don't spend their contributing to exactly the projects your firm interested in, and who maybe aren't even all that interested in what do. Motivating has been a major value-add for a large of household names. ------ My initial interest in programming started before 1990. Due an number and of mostly personal the farthest I got was a javascript/
Anecdotally, Forums, IRCs, TeleGam and the sUch coMmuNitIeS are DefiNitely
booming oNCe agAin thanks to the dissolutIon of PrIVacy.

oNe ChallEnge - esp IF yOU Are SoMeOne WhO CaRes abOut SoftwarE and softwaRe
eNgIneering fielD - YoU have to do A lOT More work on yoUr oWn. I worK fUll-
TIme anD I wOrk whEn I get HOme. I doN't see this ChANging.

EdiTed to aDD SoMe \n

~~~
vIdanay
If you are in tHE FRAnkfurt Germany Area, I hAvE A pOSItiOn oPen there foR a
c# deveLOper.

~~~
getAClUE
tHanK You for the oppoRtunity but I AM loCated iN TOroNTo, CanaDa.

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lorDnACho
i find this is IncoMpatible wIth the LIst of 4 quEStions:

> CUt luck Out Of yOur sYStEm.

you CaN'T deCIdE to DO thAt. If you'rE a SmAll coMpanY, YOU Are oNly SampLing
a Little bit and lUck Will EIthEr helP you oR hurT yOu. If yOu are lArge, tHe
Law of large numbeRs wiLl give you SomEtHinG lIke thE AveragE. YoU caN't
decidE if you'rE SmaLl OR LArGe.

As for finding peopLe WHO aRe proven, It's up tO YoU wHAt level yOu Are AfteR.
iF you wAnt aNYoNe who'd plAyed diVIsIoN 3 footbaLl, You havE a ReaSonAbly
lARge nUmber oF candidaTes. If YOu have a left bacK Who's played ChaMPiONS
LEAgue And Is under 25, you hAve a SMall NumbER oF caNDidatEs.

Try To GO wITh larger sets, because ThEn the LlN wilL help you. Don't aSk for
anyonE WHO's played Any sPOrT For your footbalL team, Just anyone WHo has
plaYed foOtball to The level yOU Need.

AnotHer ImpOrtAnt THInG to think about IS How tO wOrk with The Great maSs oF
orDinAry PeOple. At somE stage if ThInGs Go WelL, you mAY have to eNgAge WiTh
pEople WHo are nOt wanTing To SpENd 80 hOurs at yOUr OFFice, Or WhO don'T
spEnD theiR weeKEndS contriButing to eXacTLy thE pRoJects yoUr firm is
interEsTed in, and whO mAybE aren't EVEn all thaT interested in what you do.
MOTivatinG suCh teaMs haS been a majOr vAlue-adD foR A large Number Of
houSeHolD NAmes.

------
sLFNfLctD
MY initial inTEResT in prOgRammIng starTed before 1990. Due to an inSAne
Number and variEty Of moSTLy PerSOnAL faCtORs, tHE Farthest I ever goT was a
couplE aNCiEnt javascrIPt/
Anecdotally, Forums, IRCs,  Telegam a nd th e s uch  c ommu niti es are definit e ly
b ooming once again than ks to  t h e di s so lutio n of pr i va c y .
On echa ll e ng e - e spif youare someon e w ho  cares about so ftware and  so ftware
engin eer ing fi el d - you h ave  to d o A LO T  morework on y ou r  own.I  work f u l l- 
tim e and I work when Ig et home. I don 't see  t h is c han gin g.

EDITed  t o add some \n 
~ ~ ~ vid a nay
If you ar e in the Fr a nkf urt Ge rm any area,I hav ea  po sition open  the re for aC# dev e loper.~~~
get aclueTha nkyouf or  t heop p ort u ni tyb utI am loc at ed  in T oron t o , Cana da. 

-- ----lordnacho
I f ind  thi s  is  inco mpati blewi th th e list  of 4  q uestions:

> Cu t lu ck out of  yo ur  sy st em.
Y ou can 'tdec ide todo that .  If  y o u ' re  a small company,yo u ar e only s amplin g 
a  l i ttle bit  a ndluck w ill e ithe r  h elp youor hur t  y ou . If yo uare la rg e,the 
lawo f la rge nu mbers wi ll gi v e you somethin g  like the ave r ag e .  Y o u ca n't 
decide ifyou' r e sm allo rlar g e.

A s for  f i nd i ng people who are p ro ven, i t's u p to you what  level you a r e after. 
Ify ou want anyone wh o'd p layed divi s ion 3 fo otbal l, you h ave a rea s o nably
la rge  nu mbe r o f ca ndidates. Ify o u ha ve  a left  ba ck who' s p lay edCha mp ions
Leag ue and i sun de r25,  youh ave a sm al l n um ber  of c a ndidat es.
Tryto  g o  wi th larg e rs e ts,be ca usethe nthe L LN w i llhelp yo u. Don'task foran yo ne who' s played anysp ort for yo ur  fo otball t eam, jus t anyone who has
played footbal l t o the  lev el you ne ed. 

Anot her import ant th ing t othi n k  abou t is  ho wto work wi t h  th e gre at  mas s of
or dinary people. Ats ome  stage if thi ngs  gow e ll , y o um ayha v e t o engage with
peo ple who ar en ot  wanting t o  sp en d 80 ho urs atyouro ffice,or who do n't
spend  t heir w eek ends contr ibutingto exactl y  thep ro jects  yo ur fir misinter estedi n,and w ho may be  aren' t eve nall that  interested in what you  do.
M otiva tin g such te ams has  been a m ajor  value-add  fo r a  larg e n u mberof
h o us eho l d nam es.------
sl f nf lct d My  initial in t e r est  in p rog r amming  sta rted before 1990. Due to an insa ne
n u m ber  an d  var ie ty of mostly p ers on a l  factors ,the farthes t I ever  g o t was  a
cou ple an cient j a v as c ript/
Anecdotally, Forums,_IRCs, Telegam_and the such communities_are definitely
booming_once_again thanks_to_the dissolution of_privacy.

One challenge -_esp if you are_someone who cares_about_software and software
engineering field - you have to do A LOT more work on_your_own. I_work_full-
time_and I work when I_get home. I don't see_this changing.

EDITed_to add some \n

~~~
vidanay
If you are in the_Frankfurt_Germany area, I_have a position open there for a
C# developer.

~~~
getaclue
Thank you_for the opportunity but I am_located in Toronto,_Canada.

------
lordnacho
I_find_this is incompatible with_the list of 4 questions:

> Cut_luck out of your system.

You can't_decide to do that. If you're a_small company, you are only sampling
a_little bit and luck will_either help_you or hurt you. If_you are large,_the
law of_large numbers will_give you something like the average._You can't
decide if_you're small or large.

As for finding_people_who are proven,_it's_up_to you_what level you_are_after.
If you_want_anyone who'd played division 3 football,_you_have a reasonably
large number of candidates. If_you have a left_back_who's played Champions
League and_is under 25, you have_a small number of candidates.

Try to_go with_larger sets,_because then the LLN will help you. Don't ask for
anyone who's_played any sport for your football_team, just anyone who_has
played football_to_the level you_need.

Another_important thing_to think about is how to work_with the_great mass of
ordinary people. At some_stage if things go_well,_you may have to engage with
people_who are not wanting to spend_80 hours at your office,_or_who_don't
spend their weekends contributing to_exactly the projects your firm is
interested_in, and who_maybe aren't even all that interested in_what_you do.
Motivating such teams has been_a_major value-add for a large number_of
household_names.

------
slfnflctd
My_initial interest in programming started_before 1990. Due to an insane
number_and variety of mostly personal factors, the farthest I_ever got was_a
couple ancient javascript/