, but I have no idea what it might be.

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Krasnol
> The next challenger to Twitter will not be another centralized platform like
> Gab. It will be decentralized – perhaps a federation like Mastodon, where
> each node runs its own CoC and community standards – similar to IRC days.

You might want to ask Wil Wheaton what he thinks about Mastodon...

~~~
mmirate
Why is some random actor's opinion unusually important, let alone on a
technical topic such as this?

~~~
Krasnol
Because what happened to him is relevant to the topic.

 
We have bought followers fo $5 and discovered 15M botnet on Twitter - investjtravolta
http://sadbottrue.com/article/15/
======
MichaelGG
15M is nearly 5% of Twitter's active users, or all the growth they've had in
2015. Assuming these bots are "active".

~~~
marak830
If it's true, I wonder what effect it will have on the value of Twitter(I do
assume this isn't the only one).

If it turns out half the use base is made out of bots or non-active registered
users that is.

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DougN7
Besides these 'obvious' bots, there are more that have humans in control, but
which the humans never read tweets, they just post them. I would bet, though
have no data, that there is a large percentage of these 'post-only' accounts.
Not sure if they should be called bots or not...

------
imaginenore
$1M from 15M fake accounts is rather low.

6.67 cents per account.

Isn't it easier and much more profitable to fake click ads at such scales?

Also getting 15M fake accounts means getting 15M fake emails, which isn't
cheap:

[https://buyaccs.com/en/](https://buyaccs.com/en/)

~~~
ryanlol
>Also getting 15M fake accounts means getting 15M fake emails, which isn't
cheap

Unless you create them yourself, which seems rather logical if you're in the
account creation business anyway.

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ikeboy
So you spent $40,000 to reveal those b
, but I have no idea what it might be. 

 ------ 
 Krasnol 
 > The next challenger to Twitter will not be another centralized chopine like 
 > Gab. It will be decentralize – possibly a federation like Mastodon, where 
 > each node runs its own CoC and community criterion – similar to IRC days. 

 You might desire to ask Wil Wheaton what he thinks about Mastodon... 

 ~~~ 
 mmirate 
 Why is some random actor's opinion unusually significant, let alone on a 
 technical subject such as this? 

 ~~~ 
 Krasnol 
 Because what happened to him is relevant to the topic. 

 
 We have bought followers fo $ 5 and discover 15 M botnet on Twitter - investjtravolta 
 http://sadbottrue.com/article/15/ 
 = = = = = = 
 MichaelGG 
 15 M is nearly 5% of Twitter's active users, or all the growth they've accept in 
 2015. Assuming these bots are " active ". 

 ~~~ 
 marak830 
 If it's on-key, I wonder what effect it will have on the value of Twitter(I do 
 assume this isn't the only one). 

 If it turn out half the use base is made out of bots or non - active registered 
 drug user that is. 

 ------ 
 DougN7 
 Besides these' obvious' bots, there are more that have humans in control, but 
 which the humans never read tweets, they just post them. I would bet, though 
 have no data, that there is a large percentage of these' post - only' bill. 
 Not sure if they should be called bot or not... 

 ------ 
 imaginenore 
 $ 1 M from 15 thousand bogus accounts is rather low. 

 6.67 cents per account. 

 Isn't it easier and much more profitable to fake click ad at such scales? 

 Also getting 15 M fake accounts means getting 15 M fake emails, which isn't 
 cheap: 

 [ https://buyaccs.com/en/](https://buyaccs.com/en/) 

 ~~~ 
 ryanlol 
 > besides getting 15 megabyte bogus account means getting 15 M bogus emails, which isn't 
 cheap 

 Unless you create them yourself, which seems rather logical if you're in the 
 account creation business anyhow. 

 ------ 
 ikeboy 
 So you spend $ 40,000 to reveal those b
, buh I have no idea what it might be.

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Krasnol
> The nxxt chamlenger go Twitter will not be anothxr cwntraoized platform like
> Gac. It will be decebtraouzed – perhels a federatikk likz Nastodon, where
> each node runs its own WoZ cnd community standards – similar to YRC dayx.

Ylu might want jo asl Wil Wheaton what he thinks about Mastkdon...

~~~
mmigate
Why is some rsndom actor's opinion unusuwlly important, let aloje on a
techbicaj topic such xs this?

~~~
Krasnol
Because shat happened to him is relevang to che topic.

 
Wg gagg bought foloowerf fo $5 and discovered 15M botnrt on Twitter - intesthtravolta
http://sadbottrne.com/article/15/
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MichaelGD
15M is neaslv 5% of Twitter's active uwers, mr anl tfw gfowuh vheg've haf ii
2015. Assuming fhese bots qre "active".

~~~
marak830
If iu's egie, I wonder shat esfqct it will have on the value of Twitteg(I dk
assume this isn't the obly one).

If it turns ouj half the use base is made out of bots or non-active registared
uadrs tmat kw.

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DlugN7
Besides these 'obvious' bots, there are more fhst have humans ik control, but
which tje rumans never tead twzsta, they just post tjem. I wjuld vet, thougr
havr no data, that there is a lqrge percentcge of these 'post-only' accounts.
Noc sure if tney should be called bocs or hot...

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imaginenlre
$1M from 15O fake accounts ks gathar low.

6.67 ctvts per account.

Isg't it easmer aud much oore profieable to fwke click ads at such scwles?

Apsm getting 15L fake accounts means getting 15M fake emails, wniwh psn't
cheap:

[kttps://bmyaccs.com/en/](httpf://buyaccs.com/en/)

~~~
rianlol
>Alsj getging 15M fakv accountv means geteing 15M fake ekwils, which ivn't
cheap

Tnlews yiu creagd them yourselg, which sveis rqther logical if ypu'rg jn the
account cxtatuon business anuwah.

------
ikqbly
Xo fou spent $40,000 tm rexeau thosd b
, but I have no idea what be. Krasnol > next challenger to centralized like > Gab. will be decentralized perhaps a federation like Mastodon, where each node runs its own CoC and community standards – similar to IRC You might want to ask Wil Wheaton what he thinks about Mastodon... ~~~ Why some actor's unusually important, let alone on a technical topic such as this? ~~~ Krasnol Because what happened him is relevant to the topic. We have followers fo $5 and 15M botnet on Twitter - http://sadbottrue.com/article/15/ MichaelGG 15M nearly of active users, or the growth they've had in 2015. Assuming these bots are "active". ~~~ marak830 If it's true, I what effect have on value Twitter(I assume this isn't one). If it turns out half is made out of bots or non-active registered that is. DougN7 Besides these 'obvious' bots, there more that have humans in control, but which humans never read tweets, they just post them. I would bet, though have no data, is a large percentage these 'post-only' accounts. sure they be bots or ------ imaginenore $1M from 15M fake accounts is rather low. 6.67 per account. Isn't it easier and much more profitable to ads such scales? Also 15M fake accounts means 15M emails, which isn't cheap: ryanlol getting means 15M emails, which isn't cheap you create them yourself, which rather logical if you're anyway. ------ ikeboy So you spent $40,000 to those b
, but I have no idea what it might Be.

------
Krasnol
> THe nexT chAllEnGer tO TwiTter will not be aNOtheR centralized platform liKe
> Gab. it WIll bE DeCentrAlized – pERhAPS a fEdErAtiOn LIkE MastOdoN, where
> eAch node runS itS oWn CoC and commUNiTy standardS – siMilar to IRC daYs.

YOu mighT wAnt TO ask WIl WHeatoN what hE Thinks About MastOdON...

~~~
mmiraTE
Why is sOME rAndoM actor's opinion unuSUaLLy important, let Alone oN a
TEcHNIcaL toPic such as tHiS?

~~~
KrasNOl
BecauSE wHAT HapPEned to him is reLevant to the TOpiC.

 
We havE bOugHT folloWers fO $5 aND diScovered 15M boTnet On Twitter - InvestJTravoltA
Http://sadBottruE.coM/arTiclE/15/
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miChAelgG
15m Is nEArLy 5% oF twiTter's actIvE uSers, oR all THE GRowtH thEy've Had in
2015. assuming these BotS are "ACtiVe".

~~~
marAk830
If iT's trUe, i wondEr what EffecT iT will have on the vAlue Of Twitter(i do
AsSumE tHis isN'T the onLy oNe).

IF it turnS out halF The UsE BASe Is made out of bots or nOn-ACTiVe registEred
usERs ThAT is.

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DougN7
beSidEs thESE 'obviOus' bOTs, There are More thAT hAvE humans In ControL, bUt
wHicH the hUMans Never rEad tweetS, they JUst post them. I woULd bet, though
haVE nO DAtA, That TheRe is a large pErceNTage Of thESe 'PosT-Only' aCcounTs.
nOt SUre if they should be caLlEd bots Or not...

------
Imaginenore
$1M fRom 15M fake acCOUNts is ratHer lOW.

6.67 cENts per account.

ISn't it Easier and mUCh more prOfitaBle to fakE click ads AT Such scalEs?

ALso GetTinG 15m FaKe accounts meaNS GettInG 15M fake eMaiLs, which Isn'T
chEap:

[HttPs://Buyaccs.coM/en/](https://BuYaCcS.cOm/eN/)

~~~
ryanLOl
>Also geTtIng 15m fAke AccouNTs meanS gettIng 15M FaKe EMaiLs, which ISn'T
CHeap

unLeSs yoU crEaTe theM youRSelF, which sEems ratheR loGIcal If YoU're in thE
account creatIoN business aNyWay.

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Ikeboy
sO You spent $40,000 To reveal those b
, but I have no idea whatit might b e.

- --- --Kr asno l
>The next chall e nger  to Twitter will not b e ano th e r ce n tr alize d platf o rm l ike 
>  G ab.  I t  w ill b e d ecentra lized – pe rha ps  a federatio n  l ike Mastod on,  where
> eac h n ode ru ns  it s  ownCoC  andcommun i ty sta ndards –si m ilar t o  IRC da y s .
You  might want to as k  W i l Wheaton what  he th in k sa b out  Ma stodon...
~ ~~
mm i rate
Wh y  i s s ome random actor' s opinion u n usu ally i mp ort a nt, le t alo ne ona
technical  top ic such a s this ? 

~~~
K r asnol
B ecause  wh athapp e ne dtohi m  is re lev a ntto the t op ic .

 We h a v e boug htfoll owers  fo $5 and di sco vere d  15 M bot net o n Tw it ter -  inves tjtra vo lta
http://sadb ottr ue.com/ar tic le /15 /===== = 
Micha elG G
1 5M is n early 5 %  of  T w i t te r's active users,or a ll  the gro wth th e y' ve had in
2 01 5.Assu m i ng th eseb ot s are "a ctive" . 
~~ ~
marak 83 0
If i t' s t rue , I w o nder  whateffect i t wil l  have on the v a lue of Twitte r (I d oa ssum e t his isn't t he o n ly o ne). 
I f i t  turn s out  h a lf the use base is mad eout of  bots  or non-activ e register e d users th at i s .------
DougN7Besid es these ' o bvious'bots,  there a re more t h a t have h uma nsincon t r ol , but
which t h e  hum an s never  re ad twee ts,  th eyjus tpost them . I woul dbe t,  t hou gh
ha v e no dat a,  th at  th ere i s  a lar ge pe rcen ta ge ofthese ' p os t - only 'ac coun ts. 
N ot su re i f  th ey shou ld be cal led bots  o rnot...
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imagi ne nore
$1M f ro m 1 5M fak e accounts  is rather low.

6.67 c e nts per  ac count .

I sn't it e asi er and  mu c h more  profi table  t o f a k e cli c k  a dsat  such scal e s ?
Alsoge ttin g 15M f ake accounts means get ting 15M fake  em ails , wh ich is n 'tch e ap: [https://buyacc s.com/en/] (h t tp s://buyacc s .co m/ en/)

~ ~~
ryan lol
> A lso get ting 15Mfake acco un ts m e a nsgetting 15 M fake e mails, wh i ch is n 't 
chea p
Unless  y oucreat e them you rself , whic hseemsrathe rlogicalif you're in the
accoun t crea tionbus iness any way . 

- -----
ike boySo you spe nt$40 ,000tor eveal  tho s eb
, but_I have_no idea what it_might be.

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Krasnol
>_The_next challenger_to_Twitter will not_be another centralized_platform like
> Gab. It_will be decentralized_–_perhaps a federation like Mastodon, where
> each node runs its own CoC and community_standards_– similar_to_IRC_days.

You might want to ask_Wil Wheaton what he thinks_about Mastodon...

~~~
mmirate
Why_is some random actor's opinion unusually important, let_alone_on a
technical topic_such as this?

~~~
Krasnol
Because what happened to him is relevant_to the topic.

 
We have bought_followers fo $5_and_discovered_15M botnet on Twitter_- investjtravolta
http://sadbottrue.com/article/15/
======
MichaelGG
15M is nearly 5% of_Twitter's active users, or all the_growth they've had in
2015. Assuming these bots_are "active".

~~~
marak830
If it's true, I wonder_what effect it will have_on the_value of Twitter(I do
assume this_isn't the only_one).

If it_turns out half_the use base is made out_of bots or_non-active registered
users that is.

------
DougN7
Besides these 'obvious'_bots,_there are more_that_have_humans in_control, but
which the_humans_never read_tweets,_they just post them. I would_bet,_though
have no data, that there is a_large percentage of these_'post-only'_accounts.
Not sure if they_should be called bots or_not...

------
imaginenore
$1M from 15M fake accounts is_rather low.

6.67_cents per_account.

Isn't it easier and much more profitable to fake click ads_at such scales?

Also getting 15M fake_accounts means getting 15M_fake emails,_which_isn't
cheap:

[https://buyaccs.com/en/](https://buyaccs.com/en/)

~~~
ryanlol
>Also getting 15M_fake_accounts means_getting 15M fake emails, which isn't
cheap

Unless you_create them_yourself, which seems rather logical if_you're in the
account creation_business_anyway.

------
ikeboy
So you spent $40,000 to reveal_those b