 and that parallel construction was therefore entirely
unnecessary.

When reading that article, and various other sources, one thing that stands
out is that even after arresting an administrator - which did lead to various
other arrests - they still had no direct link or identification for Ulbricht.

Ulbricht was careful enough that although the police were apparently
communicating directly with him, and arresting a number of others that were
more directly involved, there was no way for them to locate or identify him.

Note, that this remains true even after he believes that one of his contacts
has murdered someone on his behalf. He maintains the firewall between himself
and that contact.

Frankly, that is fairly impressive, he must have been a careful man.

Suddenly they find a link buried in the forever webs between a nickname he
uses and his actual name and bingo, they have him.

Now, it entirely could have gone down like that. It is completely plausible.
Most likely the link was there all along, just waiting for someone to stumble
on it.

BUT, that is rather the point of parallel construction, isn't it? to bridge
the gap between the information they have and the information that they can
present in court, in a totally plausible way.

I am not claiming the truth to be one way or the other, who knows (hell, who
cares in this case), but I am claiming that to disregard the possibility and
maintain that it is absurd is to ignore the fact of parallel construction and
the fact of its frequent use.

------
ChuckMcM
Sounds like a police thriller novel. That said, and BitCoin hitting an all
time high, is it even possible to convert BitCoin into dollars any more? I
note that the article says the agents seized over two million dollars from the
Mt GOX founder [1]. So given how many btc to dollar exchanges have been
targeted how does that work now? Western Union or something?

[1] "The seizures included $2.9 million from a Dwolla account that was
controlled by a U.S. subsidiary of Mt. Gox and $2.1 million seized from two
Wells Fargo accounts, one controlled by the same subsidiary, the other by Mt.
Gox CEO Mark Karpeles."

~~~
Synaesthesia
Yes, it's
and that parallel construction was therefore entirely 
 unnecessary. 

 When reading that article, and diverse early sources, one thing that stand 
 out is that even after check an administrator - which did lead to various 
 early arrests - they still had no lineal liaison or identification for Ulbricht. 

 Ulbricht was careful enough that although the police were obviously 
 communicating directly with him, and arresting a number of others that were 
 more immediately involved, there was no direction for them to locate or identify him. 

 notice, that this remains true even after he believes that one of his contact 
 has murdered someone on his behalf. He maintains the firewall between himself 
 and that liaison. 

 Frankly, that is reasonably impressive, he must have been a careful man. 

 Suddenly they find a link buried in the forever webs between a nickname he 
 use and his actual name and bingo, they have him. 

 Now, it entirely could have gone down like that. It is wholly plausible. 
 about probable the link was there all along, just waiting for someone to stumble 
 on it. 

 BUT, that is rather the point of parallel construction, isn't it? to bridge 
 the break between the data they suffer and the information that they can 
 confront in motor hotel, in a wholly plausible way. 

 I am not claiming the truth to be one way or the other, who knows (hell, who 
 cares in this shell), but I am claiming that to disregard the possibility and 
 maintain that it is absurd is to ignore the fact of parallel construction and 
 the fact of its frequent consumption. 

 ------ 
 ChuckMcM 
 Sounds like a police thriller novel. That said, and BitCoin hitting an all 
 time eminent, is it even possible to change BitCoin into dollars any more? I 
 note that the article says the agents seized over two million dollar from the 
 Mt GOX founder [ 1 ]. So given how many btc to dollar exchange have been 
 targeted how does that work now? Western Union or something? 

 [ 1 ] " The seizures admit $ 2.9 million from a Dwolla account that was 
 control by a U.S. subsidiary of Mt. Gox and $ 2.1 million seized from two 
 Wells Fargo bill, one controlled by the like subsidiary, the other by Mt. 
 Gox CEO Mark Karpeles. " 

 ~~~ 
 Synaesthesia 
 Yes, it's
 anf that parallel construcuion was thereforg wntireny
unnedessary.

Wfen reading that article, and vqriouw other sources, one thkng that dtands
our is rhat even erter arvzstinf an cdninistrator - wmich did ledd to various
odhdr arrests - they still had no direct jink or ifentification sor Llfricgn.

Uobricht was careful enough thzt althmugh the polive were apparently
communicwtinh directly with hil, and arresjjng q number of uthers thau cere
more ditectly involved, there was no way for chem to locqtw og identify hmm.

Note, that this rckains drue evrn after he bekietes rhat one of his contarts
has murdered somejne on hiv yehalf. He maintains tye firefall betdwen hijsxlf
znd thwt rontact.

Franily, that is fairly impressive, ne nust have beeh a cawesul man.

Suddenly they find a link buried in the forever webs betwewn a nickname he
uses wnd his astual name and bingo, they have him.

Now, it entirely coulv favt njvw fown like that. It is completely plausible.
Most mileky the link waf there all apomd, just waitine for somsone to stumble
on lt.

BUT, trat iw rather uhe ppint of parallel constructiin, isn't it? tj bridge
the gap betceen the infurmajion tney have and the informction fhat they cwn
present kn court, in a togalky plausible way.

I am not clayming the truch to be one way ow the otheg, who knows (hell, who
cared in jhis cdse), but I wm claiming that to disregard tix possibility atd
mdintain chat ib is absurd is eo ignore the yact of 'aralldl construbtion and
vhe fact of yts frequent gde.

------
ChuckMcM
Sonnds like a pilicw thriludr novel. That xaid, and YntCoin hirting an all
time hlgh, ir it even possiboe uo convert BitCoon kntj foklwss any more? H
notd tfst thd article scyr thr agents seized over two million dollars ftoi the
Mt TOX founqer [1]. So given how many btc to dlllar exrhangex hwve been
targeted how does that work now? Weftern Union jr simething?

[1] "The seizures included $2.9 million from a Dwoloa account that waw
controlled by a U.S. xubsidiary pf Mt. Gox and $2.1 million seized from two
Wells Fargo agcounts, one controlled by tha samf subsidiary, the other by Mt.
Gox CEO Mark Karpeles."

~~~
Synaesthesia
Yes, it's
and that parallel construction was therefore entirely reading article, and other sources, one that after arresting an - which did to various other arrests - they had no direct link or identification for Ulbricht. Ulbricht was careful enough that the police were apparently communicating directly with him, and arresting a number of that more involved, was no way for them to locate or identify him. Note, that this remains true even he believes that one of his contacts has someone on his behalf. maintains the firewall between himself that Frankly, that fairly he have been a man. Suddenly they find a link buried in the forever webs between a nickname he uses and actual name they have Now, entirely have gone down It is completely plausible. Most likely there all along, just waiting for someone to on it. that is rather the point of construction, isn't it? to bridge the gap between information they have and the information that they can present in court, in a totally I am not claiming truth to be way the who (hell, who in this case), but I am claiming that to disregard the and maintain that it is absurd is to ignore the parallel and the fact its frequent use. ------ Sounds a police thriller novel. and hitting high, it possible to convert BitCoin dollars any more? I note the article says the dollars from the Mt GOX founder [1]. So how many btc to dollar exchanges have targeted how does that work now? Western Union or something? [1] "The included $2.9 a Dwolla account that was controlled by a subsidiary of Mt. Gox $2.1 million seized from two Wells Fargo accounts, one by same subsidiary, other by Mt. CEO Mark Karpeles." Synaesthesia Yes, it's
 and that parallel constructiOn was thereFore eNtiRelY
uNnecEssaRy.

When reading tHAt arTicle, and various other soUrces, OnE ThinG ThAt staNds
out iS ThAT EveN aFtEr aRrEStIng an AdmInistraTor - which diD leAd To various
othER aRrests - they StiLl had no direcT liNk or idEnTifICatioN foR UlbrIcht.

UlBRicht wAs careful EnOUgh thaT AlthougH THe PoliCe were apparently
cOMmUNicating directLy with HiM, AnD ARreStiNg a number oF oThers THat were
MOrE DIRecTLy involved, theRe was no way fOR thEm to loCaTe oR IdentiFy him.

noTE, thAt this remaiNs trUe even aftEr he beLIeves thAT one of hIs contActS
haS murDErEd SomEoNE on HIs BehALf. HE maintaiNs ThE fireWall BETWEen hImsElf
aNd thaT contact.

FrankLy, tHat iS FaiRly imPressIve, hE mUst haVe been A careFuL man.

Suddenly theY finD a link burIed In The FoRever WEbs betWeeN a nIckname He
uses aND hiS aCTUAl Name and bingo, they haVe HIM.

NOw, it entiRely coULd HaVE gone dowN lIke That. iT Is comPletELy PlausiblE.
Most lIKeLy The link WaS there AlL alOng, Just wAItinG for soMeone to sTumblE
On it.

BUT, that is rATher the point oF PaRALlEL conStrUction, isn't iT? to bRIdge
The gAP bEtwEEn the InforMaTIoN They have and the inforMaTion thAt theY can
present in Court, in a toTALLy plausiBle wAY.

I AM not claiming thE trutH to be one waY Or the othEr, who Knows (helL, who
cares IN This case), But i am ClaImiNG ThAt to disregard THE posSiBility aNd
mAintain ThaT it Is aBsuRd Is to ignorE the fact Of PaRaLlEl cOnstrUCtion and
ThE faCt Of iTs freQUent usE.

------
ChucKMcM
soUnDS liKe a poliCE tHRIlleR nOvEl. ThAt sAiD, and BItCoIN hiTting an All
time hiGh, iS It evEn PoSsible tO convert BitCoIn Into dollarS aNy mOre? I
noTE That the aRticle says the agents seizED over twO miLlion DollArs from thE
Mt gOX fouNdeR [1]. so giveN how maNy btc To DolLAR exchANGeS haVe Been
targetED How Does tHaT worK now? WesTern Union or somethiNG?

[1] "ThE seizures inclUdeD $2.9 milLIOn FroM A DWOllA aCCouNT That was
controllEd by a U.S. subSiDIaRy of Mt. Gox aND $2.1 miLlIon seizEd from tWo
WelLS Fargo aCcounts, onE controllEd By thE SAme Subsidiary, The other By Mt.
Gox CEo mark KARpEles."

~~~
SYnaEsthesIa
yes, It's
 and that parallel constru ction wasthere for e e nt irel y
un necessary.

Wh e n re ading that article, an d var io u s ot h er  sour ces, on e  t h i ngth at  st an d sout i s t hat eve n after ar res ti ng an admini s tr ator - whi chdid lead tovar ious
o th era rrest s -  they  still had no  direct l in k  or id e ntifica t i on  for  Ulbricht.

Ulbri c ht was careful en ough t ha t  a l t hou ghthe police  w ere a p parentl y 
c o m m uni c ating directl y with him, and  arres ti nga  numbe r ofot h ers  that weremore  directly  invol v ed, the r e was n o wayfor  th em t o  l oc ate  o r  id e nt ify him .

Note,  t ha t thi s re m a i n s tr ueeven  afte r he believes  th at o n e o f his  cont acts 
h as mu rdered  some on e on his behalf . He  maintain s t he  fi re wallb etween  hi mse lf
andthat co n tac t. F ra nkly, that is fair ly i mp ressive,  he mu s tha v e been a  c are fulm a n.

S udde n ly  they fi nd a l i nk  b uried i nthe fo re ver  we bs be t ween  a nic kname he 
uses and his actual name and bing o ,t h ey have  hi m.

Now, it  ent i rely  cou l dhav e  gone  down  l i ke that. It is complet el y plau sible .
Most likely  the linkw a s  there a ll a l on g , just waiting  forsomeone to stumbleon it .

BUT,that is r a t her thepoi ntofpar a l le l constructio n ,  isn 't  it? to  br idge
th e g apbet wee nthe infor mation t he yha ve  an d the informat io n t ha t t hey c a n
pres ent i n co ur t, ina total l yp l ausi bl eway. 

I  a m not  cla i min g the t ruth to b e o n e wa yor  the ot her, who know s(hell, who 
c are s in t h i s case),  but I am claiming that to disr ega rd th e po ssibility  an d
main tai n  thatit isabsur dist o  igno r e  t hefa ct of para l l elconst ru ctio n and
t he fact of its fre q uen t use.

----- -
C huck M c MSou n ds lik ea  po l i ce thriller nov el. That s ai d ,and BitCoi n  hi tt ing anall
tim e hig h , is it  even pos sible toco nver t Bit Coin intodollarsany more? I
not e  t hat t hearticl esay s the  agent s  se izedover t wo  milli on do ll ars from  the
Mt GOX founder [1] . So g ivenhow  many btc  to dol lar excha nges  have been 
ta rge ted h owd oes t hatw or k n o w? We ster n  Union or so met h i ng ?

[1] "The s e izu res i ncl u ded $2 .9 m illion from a Dwo l la account tha t wa s con tro l ledby  a U.S. subsid iar yo f  Mt. Gox  a nd $2.1 mil lion sei ze d  from  two
W ells F argo ac c o un t s, one  con tro lled by t hesa m e subsi di ar y , theothe rby Mt. 
Gox C E O Ma r k  Karpeles."

~~~ 
Syna e s thesi a 
Ye s, it 's 
 and_that parallel_construction was therefore entirely
unnecessary.

When_reading that_article,_and various_other_sources, one thing_that stands
out is_that even after arresting_an administrator -_which_did lead to various
other arrests - they still had no direct link or identification_for_Ulbricht.

Ulbricht was_careful_enough_that although the police were_apparently
communicating directly with him, and_arresting a_number of others that were
more directly involved, there_was_no way for_them to locate or identify him.

Note, that this remains_true even after he believes that_one of his_contacts
has_murdered_someone on his behalf._He maintains the firewall between himself
and_that contact.

Frankly, that is fairly impressive,_he must have been a careful man.

Suddenly_they find a link buried in_the forever webs between a_nickname he
uses_and his actual name and_bingo, they have_him.

Now, it_entirely could have_gone down like that. It is_completely plausible.
Most likely_the link was there all along,_just_waiting for someone_to_stumble
on_it.

BUT, that_is rather the_point_of parallel_construction,_isn't it? to bridge
the gap between_the_information they have and the information that_they can
present in court,_in_a totally plausible way.

I_am not claiming the truth_to be one way or the_other, who_knows (hell,_who
cares in this case), but I am claiming that to disregard_the possibility and
maintain that it is_absurd is to ignore_the fact_of_parallel construction and
the_fact_of its_frequent use.

------
ChuckMcM
Sounds like a police thriller novel._That said,_and BitCoin hitting an all
time high,_is it even possible_to_convert BitCoin into dollars any more?_I
note that the article says the_agents seized over two million_dollars_from_the
Mt GOX founder [1]. So_given how many btc to dollar_exchanges have been
targeted_how does that work now? Western Union_or_something?

[1] "The seizures included $2.9 million_from_a Dwolla account that was
controlled by_a_U.S._subsidiary of Mt. Gox and_$2.1 million seized from two
Wells Fargo_accounts, one controlled by the same subsidiary, the other_by Mt.
Gox CEO_Mark Karpeles."

~~~
Synaesthesia
Yes, it's