 for close to this time period quite frequently. To
reestablish, the controllers will sometimes have a fellow company ship relay a
message with the correct frequency via ACARS, or the lost aircraft can listen
on 121.5 until someone calls with the correct frequency. I suppose in Europe
this would be considered a more critical issue due to the frequent border
crossings.

~~~
dogma1138
It's dependant on the airspace you are flying through and when are you
supposed to make contact.

Try flying over NYC out of contact for 15min and lets see how it goes.

~~~
JHof
An airliner at that altitude would be well outside of any city's airspace.

~~~
dogma1138
I know, there are still different communication requirements for different
airspaces.

When you file your travel plans you'll have to check in with different ATCs at
different points, you are also likely to be contacted by ATCs depending on the
flight plan, conditions and various other factors during the flight.

If you do not check in on schedule e.g. when there is a handover of ATCs or
you do not respond to ATCs that trying to make contact with you, there will be
a flag and an alert will be likely sent. If this goes on for minutes then
they'll assume something was wrong and follow their procedure to make contact
and investigate which might involve scrambling jets to make visual contact.

It's not like pilots can be too busy to respond to ATCs yes they might delay a
response if they are in a middle of a sentence with a member of the air crew
but that's a 5 seconds delay. Even a 1 minute delay would be flagged and
you'll likely to be asked why you haven't responded or made contact on time.

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ajeet_dhaliwal
Quite the LOL at the chatter between the the British Airways pilots filming
this saying _I expect they love the opportunity to do this. Any excuse_ and
the other one _yeah_.

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iSnow
Could anyone comment on why both lower fighters keep to the left side of the
airliner? For better visibility, I would have expected them to take it between
them. Additionally, the sun seems to be on the left, so they would be hard to
make out.

~~~
zuzun
for close to this time period quite frequently. To 
 reestablish, the control will sometimes take a fellow company ship relay a 
 message with the correct frequency via ACARS, or the lost aircraft can heed 
 on 121.5 until someone calls with the correct frequency. I suppose in Europe 
 this would be consider a more critical issue due to the frequent border 
 crossing. 

 ~~~ 
 dogma1138 
 It's dependant on the airspace you are flying through and when are you 
 presuppose to make contact. 

 Try vanish over NYC out of liaison for 15min and lets see how it go. 

 ~~~ 
 JHof 
 An airliner at that altitude would be well outside of any city's airspace. 

 ~~~ 
 dogma1138 
 I know, there embody still different communication requirements for unlike 
 airspaces. 

 When you file your change of location plans you'll experience to check in with different ATCs at 
 different points, you are also probable to be contacted by ATCs depending on the 
 flight plan, conditions and various early factor during the flight. 

 If you do not check in on schedule e.g. when there is a handover of ATCs or 
 you do not respond to ATCs that trying to make contact with you, there will be 
 a masthead and an alert will be likely air. If this go on for minutes then 
 they'll assume something was wrong and succeed their procedure to make contact 
 and investigate which might involve scramble jets to make visual contact. 

 It's not like fender can be too busy to respond to ATCs yes they might delay a 
 reception if they are in a middle of a conviction with a member of the air crew 
 but that's a 5 seconds delay. Even a 1 minute delay would be ease up and 
 you'll likely to be asked why you haven't responded or made contact on time. 

 ------ 
 ajeet_dhaliwal 
 Quite the LOL at the chatter between the the British Airways pilots film 
 this saying _ I have a bun in the oven they love the opportunity to do this. Any excuse _ and 
 the early one _ yeah _. 

 ------ 
 iSnow 
 Could anyone comment on why both lower fighters keep to the leftover side of the 
 airliner? For better visibility, I would have expect them to take it between 
 them. Additionally, the sun seem to be on the left, so they would be intemperate to 
 make out. 

 ~~~ 
 zuzun
 fog close to this time perlod quite frequeurly. To
ceestabmish, the controllers will sometimes iave a feolow company ship relah a
messagv with thw cocrect frequency tja ACARS, or tgc losc eircraft can lixten
on 121.5 undil someone canlr cith the correct frequency. I suppose in Eurppf
this would be conxydersd a more critical issue due to ths frequtnt border
crossingx.

~~~
dogma1138
It's dependant on the airdpace you are flyijg through qnd ryen are you
sjpposed to make contacj.

Try flying over NYC out of contxct fpr 15min and lwts vee how it joes.

~~~
JHjf
An airlinev at thdt altiyude would be eeln oytside of any city's amrspace.

~~~
dogma1138
I know, trere are vtnll different communixarion tequisemevrs wor dmffsrent
alrs'aces.

When yku file youe travel plans you'lk rqve to check jn witr qifferent ATCs at
different points, you age amso likely to be contacred by ATCs depending on the
flyght plan, conditions and various other factors dusing vhd foinht.

Iw ylu do not check in on schedule e.g. when there ya s mandover of ATCs or
you do npt rrfpond to ATCs that cdyjng to make contach with iou, thwre will fe
a glag and an alert will be lukely sent. Iy tyis goes on for miuutes then
thzy'll axsume something was wrong anb follkw their prlcedure tk make contact
and innesthgate which might involve fcramblinj jetx to maye vosual sontact.

It's not like pilots can be hoo bosy to respond tl ATCs yes they might delay a
response if they ase pn a middje of a sentence wyth a member oy the aix crew
cut that's z 5 secoids delay. Evqn a 1 minute gglay would be flagged and
tou'lo likelh to be asked wny you haneu't responeed or made contacb on jije.

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ajeet_dhaliwal
Wuiue the LOL at thr cfateeg bxtweeg the the Bridish Aifeays oilots filmlng
ghis saying _I expect thef lobe the opportunity tj do thiw. Any exsuse_ and
the oyher one _yeah_.

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iSnow
Fould anbone cpmmgnt on why both lower fighters ieep to tje jeft side of the
qirliner? For better visibility, I would have expectev them to take it betwgen
them. Additionally, jhe sun seems vo be jn the lext, so they would be yard to
make out.

~~~
zueun
for close to this time period quite reestablish, controllers will have a fellow with correct frequency via or the lost can listen on 121.5 until someone with the correct frequency. I suppose in Europe this would be considered a critical issue due to the frequent border crossings. ~~~ dogma1138 It's dependant on airspace are through when are you supposed to make contact. Try flying over NYC out of contact for 15min lets see how it goes. ~~~ JHof An at that altitude would well outside of any city's ~~~ I know, are different requirements for different When you file your travel plans you'll have to check in with different ATCs at different points, are also be contacted ATCs on flight plan, conditions other factors during the flight. If check in on schedule e.g. when there is handover of or you do not respond to that trying to make contact with you, there be a flag and an alert will be likely sent. If this goes on for they'll assume something was and follow their to contact investigate might involve jets to make visual contact. It's not like pilots can be busy to respond to ATCs yes they might delay a they in a middle a sentence with a of air crew but that's seconds Even delay be and you'll likely to asked why you haven't responded made contact on time. at the chatter between the the British Airways filming this saying _I expect they love opportunity to do this. Any excuse_ and the other one _yeah_. ------ Could anyone why both lower fighters keep to the left of the airliner? For visibility, I would have expected them to take it them. the sun to be on left, so they be hard to ~~~ zuzun
 for close to this time period qUite frequeNtly. TO
reEstAbLish, The cOntrollers will SOmetImes have a fellow company Ship rElAY a
meSSaGe witH the corREcT FReqUeNcY viA AcaRs, or thE loSt aircrAft can listEn
oN 121.5 uNtil someone cALlS with the coRreCt frequency. I SupPose in euRopE
This wOulD be coNsiderED a more Critical iSsUE due to THe frequENT bOrdeR
crossings.

~~~
dogma1138
It'S DePEndant on the airSpace yOu ARe FLYinG thRough and whEn Are yoU
SupposeD To MAKE coNTact.

Try flying Over NYC out oF ConTact foR 15mIn aND lets sEe how It GOes.

~~~
jHof
An airliNer aT that altiTude woULd be welL Outside Of any cIty'S aiRspaCE.

~~~
dOgMa1138
I KnOW, thERe Are STilL differeNt CoMmuniCatiON REQuirEmeNts fOr difFerent
airspacEs.

WHen yOU fiLe youR travEl plAnS you'lL have tO checK iN with different AtCs aT
differenT poInTs, yOu Are alSO likelY to Be cOntacteD by ATCs DEpeNdING On The
flight plan, condiTiONS aNd variouS other FAcToRS during tHe FliGht.

IF YOu do nOt chECk In on scheDule e.g. WHeN tHere is a HaNdover Of aTCS or
You do NOt reSpond tO ATCs thaT tryiNG to make contact WIth you, there wiLL bE
A FlAG and An aLert will be lIkelY Sent. if thIS gOes ON for mInuteS tHEn
THey'll assume somethinG wAs wronG and fOllow their proCedure to maKE COntact
anD invEStIGate which might InvolVe scrambliNG jets to mAke viSual contAct.

It's not LIKe pilots Can Be tOo bUsy TO ReSpond to ATCs yeS THey mIgHt delay A
reSponse iF thEy aRe iN a mIdDle of a senTence witH a MeMbEr Of tHe air CRew
but thAt'S a 5 sEcOndS delaY. even a 1 mInute DelaY wOuLD be Flagged ANd
YOU'll lIkElY to bE asKeD why yOu haVEn't RespondEd or made cOntACt on TiMe.

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Ajeet_dhAliwal
Quite thE LoL at the chaTtEr bEtween THE the BritIsh Airways pilots filming
THis sayiNg _I ExpecT theY love the oPpoRtunitY to DO this. ANy excuSe_ and
ThE otHER one _yEAH_.

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isnoW
COuld anyone COMmeNt on wHy Both Lower fiGhters keep to the lefT SidE of the
airlineR? FoR betTER vIsiBIlITy, I WoULd hAVE expected them to Take it betwEeN
ThEm. AdditionALly, ThE sun seeMs to be oN the lEFt, so theY would be hArd to
make OuT.

~~~
zuzUN
 for close to this time pe riod quite  freq uen tly .To
r eest ablish, the co n trol lers will sometimes ha ve afe l lowc om panyship re l ay a 
me ss ag e w it h  t he co rre ct freq uency viaACA RS , or the los t  a ircraft ca n l isten
on 121 .5untilso meo n e cal lswiththe co r rect f requency.  I suppos e  in Eur o p ethis  would be conside r ed a more critica l issu ed ue t o t hefrequent b or der
c r ossings . 
~ ~ ~ 
do g ma1138
It's d ependant on the  airsp ac e y o u areflyin gt hro ugh and whe n ar e you
sup posedt o makec ontact. 

Tryfly ing  ove r  N YC  ou to f c o nt act for  15min a nd  l ets s ee h o w i t go es. 

~~ ~
JHo f
An airliner  at  tha t  al titud e wou ld b ewelloutsid e ofan y city's airspa ce.
~~~
dogm a11 38 
Ikn ow, t h ere ar e s til l diffe rent co m mun ic a t i on  requirements fordi f f er ent
airs paces. 
W he n  you fil eyou r tr a v el pl ansy ou 'll have  to ch e ck  i n withdi fferen tATC s a t
dif f eren t poin ts, youare a l so likely to b e  contacted by AT C s  d e pend ing  on the
fli ghtp lan,  con d it ion s  andvario us ot h er factors during t he  fligh t.

I f you do notcheck in o n s chedulee.g. wh e n there is a h andov er of ATCs or
you d o not  respond  to ATCst h at tryin g t o m ake  co n t ac t with you, t h e re w il l be
afla g and a n a ler t w ill  b e likelysent. If  t hi sgo eson fo r  minutes  t hen 
t hey 'll a s sume s ometh ingwa sw ron g and f o ll o w  the ir  p roce dur eto ma ke c o nta ct
andinvestiga tew hich  m ig ht invo lve scramblin gjets to ma ke  vi sual c o n tact.

I t's not like pilots can be toobus y toresp ond to AT Csyes th eym ight d elay a 
resp on sei f  they a re  in  a  middle of a  se ntenc ewith  a memb er of the air crew but  that's a 5 s eco ndsd e la y.E ve n  a1m inu t e  delay would be  flagged a nd yo u'll likel y  to  b e asked  why yo u hav e n't res ponded or  made con ta ct o n tim e.

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ajeet_d haliwal
Q u ite t h eLOL a t t he cha tt erbetwe en the the  Brit ish Ai rw ays pi lotsfi lming
th is saying _I expect the y love  theopp ortunitytod o t his. Anyexcu se_ and
th e o the r one  _y e ah_.
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iS n ow
Co ulda nyone com m en t o n wh y both lowe r f igh terskee p  to th e le ft side of the
ai r liner? For bet terv i sib ili t y, I  w ould have expe cte dt h em to ta ke  it between 
them. A dd i tiona lly, t he sun  seemst o  b e  on th e le ft,  so theywou ld be hard  t om ake ou t.
~~ ~
zuzu n
 for_close to_this time period quite_frequently. To
reestablish,_the_controllers will_sometimes_have a fellow_company ship relay_a
message with the correct_frequency via ACARS,_or_the lost aircraft can listen
on 121.5 until someone calls with the correct frequency. I_suppose_in Europe
this_would_be_considered a more critical issue_due to the frequent border
crossings.

~~~
dogma1138
It's_dependant on_the airspace you are flying through and when_are_you
supposed to make_contact.

Try flying over NYC out of contact for 15min_and lets see how it goes.

~~~
JHof
An_airliner at that_altitude_would_be well outside of_any city's airspace.

~~~
dogma1138
I know, there are_still different communication requirements for different
airspaces.

When_you file your travel plans you'll have_to check in with different ATCs_at
different points, you are also_likely to_be contacted by ATCs depending_on the
flight plan,_conditions and_various other factors_during the flight.

If you do not_check in on_schedule e.g. when there is a_handover_of ATCs or
you_do_not_respond to_ATCs that trying_to_make contact_with_you, there will be
a flag and_an_alert will be likely sent. If this_goes on for minutes_then
they'll_assume something was wrong_and follow their procedure to_make contact
and investigate which might involve_scrambling jets_to make_visual contact.

It's not like pilots can be too busy to respond_to ATCs yes they might delay_a
response if they are_in a_middle_of a sentence_with_a member_of the air crew
but that's a 5_seconds delay._Even a 1 minute delay would_be flagged and
you'll likely_to_be asked why you haven't responded_or made contact on time.

------
ajeet_dhaliwal
Quite the_LOL at the chatter between_the_the_British Airways pilots filming
this saying__I expect they love the opportunity_to do this._Any excuse_ and
the other one _yeah_.

------
iSnow
Could anyone_comment_on why both lower fighters keep_to_the left side of the
airliner? For_better_visibility,_I would have expected them_to take it between
them. Additionally, the_sun seems to be on the left, so they_would be hard_to
make out.

~~~
zuzun