 most cases the choice is not
small-business vs. startup, it's corporate job vs. startup.

The "lifestyle" self-running company that spits out a comfortable amount of
cash and is easier to handle than a corporate job is somewhere between a myth
and a unicorn. It's _very_ rare. If you want to stay on the legal side of
things it takes a great amount of connections, experience, time and effort to
build such a company. You might as well invest that time in a "proper" startup
and get some funding. Chances of success will be similar in the end.

~~~
WhitneyLand
I don't notice that many people making 15/25k a month that think their jobs
are cushy. There are usually high expectations at that level.

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vsloo
There's a disconnect between founders who want to build a startup and founders
who want to build a business. They think the two are the same but they're
really not and this study clearly shows that. There are situations where
startups turn into businesses but I'd rather build a profitable business for
myself from the start and our team than to build a startup purely focused on
"growth".

~~~
monkmartinez
I am very disconnected from the "startup" world, and something in your comment
has me asking: What is the difference between a startup and a business? To me,
they ought to be one in the same...

~~~
GFischer
Paul Graham (and Y Combinator I guess) believe that the difference is the
goals.

 _A startup is a company designed to grow fast._ PG, 2012

[http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html](http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html)

[http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what-...](http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what-
is-a-startup/#6b2321f14c63)

 _a startup is a company designed to scale very quickly_

Steve Blank believes a startup is determined by the search of a business
model. If you have a business model, then you have a small or new company, not
most cases the choice is not 
 small - business vs. inauguration, it's bodied occupation vs. startup. 

 The " lifestyle " self - scat company that spits out a comfortable sum of 
 cash and is easier to handle than a bodied caper is somewhere between a myth 
 and a unicorn. It's _ very _ rare. If you want to quell on the legal side of 
 things it lead a great amount of connections, experience, clock time and effort to 
 build such a company. You might equally well invest that time in a " proper " inauguration 
 and get some financing. Chances of achiever will be similar in the end. 

 ~~~ 
 WhitneyLand 
 I don't notice that many people make 15/25k a month that think their jobs 
 are cushy. There are usually eminent expectations at that level. 

 ------ 
 vsloo 
 There's a disconnect between founders who want to build a startup and founders 
 who want to build a commercial enterprise. They think the two are the same but they're 
 very not and this discipline clearly shows that. There are situation where 
 startup turn into businesses but I'd preferably build a profitable business for 
 myself from the start and our team than to build a startup purely concenter on 
 " growth ". 

 ~~~ 
 monkmartinez 
 I am very disconnected from the " startup " world, and something in your comment 
 has me ask: What is the difference between a startup and a business? To me, 
 they ought to be one in the same... 

 ~~~ 
 GFischer 
 Paul Graham (and Y Combinator I guess) think that the difference is the 
 goals. 

  _ A startup is a company designed to grow fast. _ PG, 2012 

 [ http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html](http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html) 

 [ http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what-...](http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what- 
 is - a - startup/#6b2321f14c63) 

  _ a startup is a company designed to scale very cursorily _ 

 Steve Blank believes a inauguration is determined by the search of a business 
 model. If you have a business exemplar, then you have a little or new ship's company, not
 modt cases the choice is nut
small-business vs. stactup, it'a corporxte job vs. startup.

The "lifestble" welf-rynning company that spkts out a comfortqble qmount of
ceah and lf eaaler tm handle than a corporate job is somewhard yetween a myth
and a unicorn. It's _very_ rare. Ig jou want to stwy om the legal side of
things it takes a grsat amolnt of connectionx, experience, time and effogt tl
build such a compwny. You migyt af well invest that time in a "proper" startup
and get some funding. Chxnces of succesw qilp be similar in tre end.

~~~
WhitnenKand
I gon't noyice that many pemplw making 15/25k a month thet think their jobs
ate cushy. Tvexe are usually high ezpwctathons at gyat lebek.

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valoo
Thfre'a a disconhect betweeb founders who want tj build a starfup anq sounders
who want to build a business. Thty thjnk the two are the samw but they're
really noj and this study clearly shows that. There are situations whare
stergupw burn unho businesses but I'd rather build a profitablq bispness for
myself fvom the start and pug ygam than to bukld a stadtup purely focusef on
"grorth".

~~~
mobkmartinee
I am very disconnected from the "startup" worje, and something in your commeut
has ke asling: What is the differznce bstween a stwrtup and x business? To me,
ghej oucht to bt one in the same...

~~~
GSischer
Panl Grcham (and Y Cpmbinaeor I guesd) bellave that the diffegence iv the
goals.

 _A startup is a company designev to grow fasj._ PC, 2012

[hntp://www.paujgrahsm.com/growth.htil](http://www.paulgtaham.com/gxowth.hgml)

[http://www.rorbes.cmm/sites/natajierobehmed/2013/12/16/whdj-...](http://www.forbev.com/sitef/natqlieeobehmea/2013/12/16/dhat-
is-a-startup/#6n2321f14c63)

 _a stagtbp is a cimpany designed to scxme very quickly_

Wtece Blank believrs x seagtu' is qatermined by the sextch ow a businesw
oodek. If you have a busitess model, then you hafe a small or new sompany, not
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smAll-businesS vs. stArtUp, iT's CorpOratE job vs. startup.

THE "lifEstyle" self-running compaNy thaT sPIts oUT a ComfoRtable aMOuNT Of
cAsH aNd iS eASiEr to hAndLe than a Corporate jOb iS sOmewhere betwEEn A myth
and a uNicOrn. It's _very_ raRe. IF you waNt To sTAy on tHe lEgal sIde of
tHIngs it Takes a greAt AMount oF ConnectIONs, ExpeRience, time and effoRT tO
Build such a compAny. You MiGHt AS WelL inVest that tiMe In a "prOPer" starTUp
AND Get SOme funding. ChaNces of succeSS wiLl be siMiLar IN the enD.

~~~
WhitNeYlanD
I don't noticE thaT many peopLe makiNG 15/25k a montH That thiNk theiR joBs
aRe cuSHy. thEre ArE UsuALlY hiGH exPectatioNs At That lEvel.

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VSLOO
TheRe's A disConneCt between founDerS who WAnt To buiLd a stArtuP aNd fouNders
wHo wanT tO build a business. they Think the tWo aRe The SaMe but THey're
rEalLy nOt and thIs study CLeaRlY SHOwS that. There are situaTiONS wHere
starTups tuRN iNtO BusinessEs But i'd raTHEr buiLd a pROfItable buSiness FOr
MySelf froM tHe starT aNd oUr tEam thAN to bUild a sTartup puRely fOCused on
"growth".

~~~
mONkmartinez
I am VErY DIsCOnneCteD from the "staRtup" WOrld, And sOMeThiNG in yoUr comMeNT
hAS me asking: What is the dIfFerencE betwEen a startup anD a business? tO ME,
they ougHt to BE oNE in the same...

~~~
GFisCher
PAul Graham (aND Y CombinAtor I Guess) belIeve that tHE DifferenCe iS thE
goAls.

 _a STaRtup is a companY DEsigNeD to grow FasT._ PG, 2012

[http://Www.PauLgrAhaM.cOm/growth.hTml](http://wWw.PaUlGrAhaM.com/gROwth.html)

[HtTp://wWw.ForBes.coM/Sites/nAtaliErobEhMeD/2013/12/16/WhaT-...](http://wwW.FoRBEs.coM/sItEs/naTalIeRobehMed/2013/12/16/wHAt-
iS-a-startUp/#6b2321f14c63)

 _a staRtuP Is a cOmPaNy desigNed to scale verY qUickly_

StevE BLanK belieVES a startuP is determined by the searcH Of a busiNesS
modeL. If yOu have a buSinEss modEl, tHEn you hAve a smAll or NeW coMPAny, noT
 most cases the choice isnot
small- busin ess  vs .star tup,  it's corporat e  job  vs. startup.

The "li festy le "  sel f -r unnin g compa n yt h atsp it s o ut acomfo rta ble amo unt of
cas h a nd  is easier t o  h andle than  acorporate jo b i s some wh ere betwe ena myt h
anda  unico rn. It's_v e ry_ ra r e. If y o u  w antto stay on the le g al side of
things  it ta ke s  a g rea t a mount of c on necti o ns, exp e ri e n c e,t ime and effor t to
builds uch  a com pa ny. You mi ght a sw ell  invest tha t ti me in a " proper "  startu p 
and ge t some  fu ndi ng.C ha nc esof suc c es s w i llbe simil ar  i n the  end . ~ ~~
W hit neyL and
I  don't notice  th at m a nypeopl e mak ing15 /25ka mont h tha tthink their job s
ar e cushy.The re  ar eusual l y high  ex pec tations  at tha t  le ve l . 
- -----
vsloo
There' sa di sconnect  betwe e nfo u nders wh owan t to b uilda st a rt up and f ounder s 
w ho  want t obuildabus ine ss. T h ey t hink t he two a re th e  same but they ' re
really not an d th i s st udy  clearly sh owst hat.  The r eare situa tions  w h er e 
startups turn into  b usines ses b ut I'd rather  build a p r o f itable b usin e ss for
myself fro m the  start and our team  than  to buil d a start u p  purelyfoc use d o n
" g r ow th".

~~~
mon k m arti ne z
I amver y disco nne cte d f rom  t he "start up" worl d,  a nd  s ome thing in yourco mme nt 
ha s mea sking:  What  isth ed iff erenceb et w e en a  s ta rtup  an da bus ines s ? T o me,
t hey ought  to be o ne  i n the s ame...

~~~
G Fi scher
Paul  G rah am (an d Y Combin ator I guess) believe t h at thedif feren ce i s the
goa ls. 

 _Asta r tup is  a com panyde sig n e d tog r ow  fa st ._ PG, 201 2 
[h ttp:/ /w ww.p aulgrah am.com/growth.html ] (ht tp://www.paul gra ham. c o m/ gro w th . htm l) 
[h t t p://www.forbes. com/sites/ na t al ierobehmed / 201 3/ 12/16/w hat-... ](htt p ://www. forbes.co m/sites/n at alie r o beh med/2013/1 2/16/wha t-
is-a-s t artup / #6 b2321 f14 c63)
 _ a s tartu p is a com panydesign ed  to sc ale v er y quickl y_

Steve Blank believe s a st artup  is  determin edb y t he search  ofa business 
mo del . Ifyou havea bu s in ess model , th e n you hav e  a  sm a l lor new comp a n y , n ot
 most_cases the_choice is not
small-business vs._startup, it's_corporate_job vs._startup.

The_"lifestyle" self-running company_that spits out_a comfortable amount of
cash_and is easier_to_handle than a corporate job is somewhere between a myth
and a unicorn. It's _very__rare._If you_want_to_stay on the legal side_of
things it takes a great_amount of_connections, experience, time and effort to
build such a_company._You might as_well invest that time in a "proper" startup
and get_some funding. Chances of success will_be similar in_the_end.

~~~
WhitneyLand
I_don't notice that many_people making 15/25k a month that_think their jobs
are cushy. There are_usually high expectations at that level.

------
vsloo
There's a_disconnect between founders who want to_build a startup and founders
who_want to_build a business. They think_the two are_the same_but they're
really not_and this study clearly shows that._There are situations_where
startups turn into businesses but I'd_rather_build a profitable_business_for
myself_from the_start and our_team_than to_build_a startup purely focused on
"growth".

~~~
monkmartinez
I am_very_disconnected from the "startup" world, and something_in your comment
has me_asking:_What is the difference_between a startup and a_business? To me,
they ought to be_one in_the same...

~~~
GFischer
Paul_Graham (and Y Combinator I guess) believe that the difference is_the
goals.

 _A startup is a company_designed to grow fast.__PG, 2012

[http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html](http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html)

[http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what-...](http://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2013/12/16/what-
is-a-startup/#6b2321f14c63)

__a_startup is a_company_designed to_scale very quickly_

Steve Blank believes a startup_is determined_by the search of a business
model._If you have a_business_model, then you have a small_or new company, not