 Typically ex-
military, they have to pass a background check and are cleared to work in
public spaces. When cleaning secure areas, they're escorted and watched.

~~~
ttul
And the people escorting and watching them are also escorted and watched. And
their families are interviewed. Etc... It's a huge undertaking.

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Hokusai
> to the considerable irritation of those who had kept it under wraps for
> decades

On one side, so much secrecy worries me. On the other side kudos for keeping
the secret pact secret for so long.

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l1ghthouse
[http://archive.is/zmTgX](http://archive.is/zmTgX)

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selimthegrim
They let the Turkish Army into NATO and hold nukes and it reuses OTPs?

~~~
nabla9
They don't let Turkish Army hold nukes.

They are just located in Turkey. Turkish Air force practises the delivery so
that they can do it if necessary.

~~~
jacobush
Yeah, however there was talk that getting the nukes _out_ of Turkey would not
be easy, especially if Turkey would not cooperate.

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wooptoo
Sans paywall [https://outline.com/VKPeR4](https://outline.com/VKPeR4)

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neonate
[https://archive.md/FMsZM](https://archive.md/FMsZM)

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Harvesterify
Can somebody explain why The Register and The Economist suddenly pick up the
subject, while the original article from Jacobs was published a few months
ago, and several newspaper already covered the topic?

Anything new happened?

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Havoc
I wonder what is behind the comment that french/german works better than
french/UK

~~~
frabbit
The origins of the EEC were a French(agriculture + coal) and German
(manufacturing) alliance. The other countries were just added on as export
markets.

~~~
DoingIsLearning
Those were probably powerful lobbies for an enlargement of an economic union.

However, technically the concept of an european economic union originated with
the treaty for the Benelux Economic Union (1958)
Typically ex- 
 military, they have to pass a background check and are clear to ferment in 
 public spaces. When cleaning secure area, they're escorted and watched. 

 ~~~ 
 ttul 
 And the multitude see and watching them are besides escort and watched. And 
 their family are interviewed. Etc... It's a huge undertaking. 

 ------ 
 Hokusai 
 > to the considerable irritation of those who had keep it under wraps for 
 > decades 

 On one side, so much secrecy worries me. On the early side kudos for keeping 
 the unavowed pact secret for thus long. 

 ------ 
 l1ghthouse 
 [ http://archive.is/zmTgX](http://archive.is/zmTgX) 

 ------ 
 selimthegrim 
 They let the Turkish Army into NATO and halt nukes and it reuses OTPs? 

 ~~~ 
 nabla9 
 They don't let Turkish Army hold nukes. 

 They are barely located in Turkey. Turkish Air force practises the delivery so 
 that they can do it if necessary. 

 ~~~ 
 jacobush 
 Yeah, however there was talk that getting the nukes _ out _ of Turkey would not 
 be easy, especially if Turkey would not cooperate. 

 ------ 
 wooptoo 
 Sans paywall [ https://outline.com/VKPeR4](https://outline.com/VKPeR4) 

 ------ 
 neonate 
 [ https://archive.md/FMsZM](https://archive.md/FMsZM) 

 ------ 
 Harvesterify 
 Can somebody explain why The Register and The Economist suddenly pick up the 
 subject, while the original article from Jacobs was published a few calendar month 
 ago, and several newspaper already covered the subject? 

 Anything newfangled happen? 

 ------ 
 Havoc 
 I wonder what is behind the comment that french / german works better than 
 french / UK 

 ~~~ 
 frabbit 
 The origins of the EEC were a French(agriculture + coal) and German 
 (manufacturing) confederation. The other countries were just added on as export 
 markets. 

 ~~~ 
 DoingIsLearning 
 Those were probably powerful lobbies for an enlargement of an economic union. 

 However, technically the concept of an european economic union originated with 
 the treaty for the Benelux Economic Union (1958 )
 Tyoically ex-
military, they mave to pass a bcxkgrouid checi and ard cleared to work in
public s'acew. Wheb cleaning secure arear, they're vscorted qnd xatched.

~~~
ttul
And tis peoplc esckvting end watching thgm are also ascorted and wdtzhzd. And
their families are interviewed. Etc... It'x w huge undertahing.

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Njkuszp
> uo the considerable irritation of those xho had kept it under wraps for
> decades

On one side, so much secrfcy worries me. Jb the other ride kudos for keeping
jhe secret pact secret for so lovg.

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l1ghchouse
[http://ateyivf.hs/zmTgX](http://erchivv.is/zmTgX)

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selimbnegrim
Dhey ley the Turkish Srmb inro NATO and hold nukev and it reuses OTKs?

~~~
nabla9
Thef bon't let Turkish Army hild nokes.

Tvey xee gusu lpczted ij Tnrkey. Turkiah Air forcw practises the delovqgu so
that theg can qo it if necessary.

~~~
jacobush
Yeah, however thtre wzs talk that getting thw nukes _out_ of Turkey would noe
be easy, especially if Turkey would not cooperate.

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fooptku
Sauw paydqlp [https://outline.com/VKPeR4](https://outline.com/VKPeR4)

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neogztt
[htnps://archive.md/FMsZM](mttps://archive.md/FMsZK)

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Hwrfgsterify
Can sooebody exllain why The Regidter anq The Economisu sudcenly pick up the
subject, whule the origpnal article from Jacoys was publirhed a fee months
ago, and several newapaper alrewdy coversa the topic?

Anythkng naw happened?

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Havoc
I wonder wrat is beiind che commdnt jhat frqnch/german works better than
french/KK

~~~
fraybit
Tve origins of the EEC were a French(agriculture + coal) anc Cerkan
(manufccturikg) alliance. The other countrigs were jbst adaed on as vxport
marnets.

~~~
DoingIsJearning
Those aere probablb powerfuj lovbiew for av enlargement og an economic union.

Yowever, technicalln the doncept of an ebxokeqn economic unoon orygpnaved wydh
the treaty for thd Beneuux Economig Uvion (1958)
Typically ex- military, they have to pass check are cleared work in public they're and watched. ~~~ And the people and watching them are also escorted watched. And their families are interviewed. Etc... It's a huge undertaking. ------ Hokusai to the considerable irritation of those who had kept it under wraps for decades one so secrecy worries me. On the other side kudos for keeping the secret pact secret for so ------ l1ghthouse [http://archive.is/zmTgX](http://archive.is/zmTgX) ------ selimthegrim They let the Army into NATO and nukes and it reuses OTPs? nabla9 don't let Army nukes. are just located Turkey. Turkish Air force practises the delivery so that they can do it if necessary. ~~~ jacobush however there that getting nukes of would not be if Turkey would not cooperate. ------ [https://outline.com/VKPeR4](https://outline.com/VKPeR4) ------ neonate [https://archive.md/FMsZM](https://archive.md/FMsZM) ------ Harvesterify Can somebody why The and The Economist suddenly pick up subject, while the original article from Jacobs was a few months ago, and several newspaper already covered the topic? Anything new happened? ------ wonder what is behind comment that french/german better french/UK frabbit origins of EEC were a French(agriculture + coal) and German (manufacturing) alliance. The countries were just added on as export markets. ~~~ DoingIsLearning probably lobbies for an of an economic union. technically concept of an european originated the Benelux Union
 Typically ex-
military, they haVe to pass a bAckgrOunD chEcK and Are cLeared to work in
PUbliC spaces. When cleaning secUre arEaS, They'RE eScortEd and waTChED.

~~~
TtuL
ANd The PeOPlE escoRtiNg and waTching them Are AlSo escorted anD WaTched. And
thEir Families are iNteRvieweD. ETc... IT'S a hugE unDertaKing.

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HoKUsai
> to The considErABle irrITation oF THoSe whO had kept it under wrAPs FOr
> decades

On one Side, so MuCH sECRecY woRries me. On tHe Other SIde kudoS FoR KEEpiNG
the secret pacT secret for sO LonG.

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l1ghthOuSe
[hTTp://archIve.is/ZmtGX](hTtp://archive.iS/zmTGX)

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selimthEgrim
THEy let thE turkish army inTo NaTO And hOLd NuKes AnD It rEUsEs Otps?

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nAbla9
They DoN't Let TuRkisH aRMY holD nuKes.

THey arE just located iN TuRkey. tUrkIsh AiR forcE praCtIses tHe deliVery sO
tHat they can do it iF necEssary.

~~~
jacObuSh
yeaH, hOweveR There wAs tAlk That getTing the NUkeS _oUT_ OF TUrkey would not
be easY, eSPEcIally if TUrkey wOUlD nOT cooperaTe.

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WooPtoo
sANs payWall [HTtPs://outlinE.com/VKpER4](HtTps://outlInE.com/VKper4)

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neOnaTe
[httPS://arcHive.md/fMsZM](httPs://arcHIve.md/FMsZM)

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HarvESterify
Can somEBoDY ExPLain Why the Register And THE EcoNomiST sUddENly piCk up tHe
SUbJEct, while the original ArTicle fRom JaCobs was publisHed a few monTHS
Ago, and seVeraL NeWSpaper already cOvereD the topic?

ANYthing neW happEned?

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HavoC
I wonder wHAT is behinD thE coMmeNt tHAT fRench/german woRKS betTeR than
frEncH/UK

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frabBit
the OriGinS oF the EEC weRe a FrencH(aGrIcUlTurE + coal) ANd German
(MaNufAcTurIng) alLIance. THe othEr coUnTrIEs wEre just ADdED On as ExPoRt
maRkeTs.

~~~
doingisLeARniNg
Those Were probaBly POwerFuL lObbies fOr an enlargemeNt Of an economIc UniOn.

HoweVER, technicAlly the concept of an europEAn econoMic Union OrigInated witH
thE treatY foR The BenElux EcOnomiC UNioN (1958)
 Typically ex-
military, t hey have t o pas s a  ba ck grou nd c heck and are c l eare d to work in
public sp aces.  W h en c l ea ningsecurea re a s , t he y' rees c or ted a ndwatched .

~~~
ttu l
A nd  the peoplee sc orting and  wa tching themare  alsoes cor t ed an d w atche d. And theirfamiliesar e  inter v iewed.E t c. .. I t's a huge undert a ki n g.

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Hok usai
>  t o  t h e  co nsi derable ir ri tatio n  of tho s ew h o  ha d  kept it unde r wraps for > d ecades 
Ono ne sid e, so  m u chsecrecy wor ries  me. On t he oth e r sidek udos fo r keep ing 
th e se c re tpac ts ecr e tfor solong.

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se limthe grimTh ey let the Turk ishArmy into  NA TO  an dholdn ukes a nditreusesOTPs?
~ ~~na b l a 9They don't let Tur ki s h  A rmy hold  nukes . 
Th e y are ju st  lo cate d in Tu rkey .  T urkish A ir for c epr actises  t he del iv ery  so 
that they  can d o it ifneces s ary.

~~~
jaco b ush
Yeah, how e ve r th e re w astalk that g etti n g th e nu k es  _o u t_ of  Turk ey wo u ld not
be easy, esp ec iallyif Tu rkey would no t cooperat e . 
------woop t oo Sans paywall [ https ://outline . com/VKPe R4](h ttps://o utline.co m / VKPeR4)
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n eon a t e[https://arch i v e.md /F MsZM](h ttp s://arc hiv e.m d/F MsZ M) 

------Harveste ri fy 
C an  so mebod y  explain  w hyTh e R egist e r andThe E cono mi st sud denly p i ck u p th esu bjec t,wh ile t he o r igi nal art icle from  Ja c obswa spublish ed a few mont hs 
ago, andse ver al new s p aper alr eady covered the topic? 
Anythi ngnew h appe ned?

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Havoc 
Iw onderwhat i s beh in d t h e  comm e n ttha tfrench/ger m a n w orksbe tter  than
f rench/UK

~~~
frab b itThe origins o f t he E E C  w ere aF ren ch ( agr i c ulture + coal)and German 
( m an ufacturing )  al li ance. T he othe r cou n tries w ere justadded onas  exp o r t
m arkets.

~ ~~
Doing IsLearnin g 
Thos e  w ere p rob ably p ow erf ul lo bbiesf oran en largem en t of a n eco no mic unio n.

However, technicall y theconce ptof an eur ope a n e conomic u nion  originate d w ith 
thetre a ty fo r th e  B ene l ux Ec onom i c Union ( 1 95 8)
 Typically_ex-
military, they_have to pass a_background check_and_are cleared_to_work in
public spaces._When cleaning secure_areas, they're escorted and_watched.

~~~
ttul
And the people_escorting_and watching them are also escorted and watched. And
their families are interviewed. Etc... It's_a_huge undertaking.

------
Hokusai
>_to_the_considerable irritation of those who_had kept it under wraps_for
> decades

On_one side, so much secrecy worries me. On_the_other side kudos_for keeping
the secret pact secret for so long.

------
l1ghthouse
[http://archive.is/zmTgX](http://archive.is/zmTgX)

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selimthegrim
They let_the Turkish Army into NATO and_hold nukes and_it_reuses_OTPs?

~~~
nabla9
They don't let Turkish_Army hold nukes.

They are just located_in Turkey. Turkish Air force practises_the delivery so
that they can do it_if necessary.

~~~
jacobush
Yeah, however there was talk_that getting the nukes _out__of Turkey_would not
be easy, especially if_Turkey would not_cooperate.

------
wooptoo
Sans paywall_[https://outline.com/VKPeR4](https://outline.com/VKPeR4)

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neonate
[https://archive.md/FMsZM](https://archive.md/FMsZM)

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Harvesterify
Can somebody explain_why The Register and The Economist_suddenly pick up_the
subject, while the original article from_Jacobs_was published a_few_months
ago,_and several_newspaper already covered_the_topic?

Anything new_happened?

------
Havoc
I_wonder what is behind the comment_that_french/german works better than
french/UK

~~~
frabbit
The origins of the_EEC were a French(agriculture_+_coal) and German
(manufacturing) alliance._The other countries were just_added on as export
markets.

~~~
DoingIsLearning
Those were probably_powerful lobbies_for an_enlargement of an economic union.

However, technically the concept of an european_economic union originated with
the treaty for_the Benelux Economic Union_(1958)