 fewer yards, set-backs, etc.)

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cwperkins
This is something I've been trying to understand for a long time. In New York
City because of the rent controls it seems like the market rate has diverged
alarmingly from the subsidized rents. From my perspective it seems like this
propagates the "Tale of Two Cities" and makes it a much wider leap to go from
rent-control or subsidized housing to market-rate. In my naive opinion it
seems like in a system without all of the controls in place there may be a
more even spectrum of price points and make jumping to the next level of
housing easier.

There are other forces at play here too such as foreign buyers speculating on
the Manhattan Condo market, look no further then the foreclosure at One57
penthouse to show how it has gotten. I think building more housing at all
levels is the best way to solve the affordability crisis, but naturally the
higher-end of the market would be built out first due to developers wanting to
cater to the highest bidder. The cities current approach of providing tax-
incentives to developers to allot a certain portion of housing to affordable
housing is seemingly a good strategy to tackle the problem of affordable
housing as well as integration.

~~~
cwperkins
Does anyone know anyone from Starsky robotics? I think it would be interesting
to deploy the remote technology used in it's trucks to construction vehicles.
Imagine being able to have continuous delivery at construction sites. For
example, excavation is a relatively quiet activity that seems like it just
requires a back hoe and a dumpster to haul away waste. If we can be able to
control these remotely, would we be able to increase the efficiency of
construction sites?

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sliverstorm
This doesn't seem to address high end housing vs (unsubsidized) low end
housing. Is a hundred new units with marble countertops as good, holistically,
as a hundred with laminate?

I think a lot of the opposition revolves around frustration with developers
building luxury when the intent of the given policy was low or mid market
units, combined with a belief that units targeted at the needy market segment
would be the best solution.

~~~
jogjayr
There are reasons for developers to
fewer yards, set - backs, etc .) 

 ------ 
 cwperkins 
 This is something I've been judge to sympathize for a long time. In New York 
 City because of the rip control it seems like the market pace has diverged 
 alarmingly from the subsidized rents. From my perspective it look like this 
 propagates the " Tale of Two Cities " and makes it a a lot wider leap to go from 
 rent - restraint or subsidized housing to market - rate. In my naive public opinion it 
 seems like in a system without all of the controls in position there may be a 
 more even spectrum of price points and make jumping to the following level of 
 housing easier. 

 There are other force at play here too such as foreign buyers speculating on 
 the Manhattan Condo grocery store, look no further then the foreclosure at One57 
 penthouse to show how it has gotten. I think building more housing at all 
 levels is the best way to resolve the affordability crisis, but naturally the 
 higher - end of the marketplace would be build out first due to developers wanting to 
 provide to the highest bidder. The city current approach of providing tax- 
 incentive to developers to allot a certain portion of housing to affordable 
 caparison is seemingly a good strategy to tackle the problem of affordable 
 housing equally well as consolidation. 

 ~~~ 
 cwperkins 
 Does anyone acknowledge anyone from Starsky robotics? I think it would be interesting 
 to deploy the remote technology practice in it's trucks to construction vehicles. 
 Imagine being able to have continuous delivery at construction sites. For 
 exercise, excavation is a relatively placid activity that seems like it merely 
 requires a back hoe and a dumpster to haul away thriftlessness. If we can be able to 
 control these remotely, would we be able to increase the efficiency of 
 structure sites? 

 ------ 
 sliverstorm 
 This doesn't seem to cover high end housing vs (unsubsidized) low end 
 caparison. Is a hundred new units with marble countertops as estimable, holistically, 
 as a hundred with laminate? 

 I think a lot of the opposition revolves around frustration with developers 
 construction luxury when the intent of the give policy was low or mid market 
 unit, combined with a belief that units target at the needy market segment 
 would be the best solution. 

 ~~~ 
 jogjayr 
 There are reasons for developers to
 feaer yards, set-backs, etc.)

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cwkerkins
This is something I've bsen tryivg to understand for a long vime. In Ntc York
City because ow the renn controlw it weems like the market rafc has viverged
alarminnly from tha subsidized rangs. From my perspective it seems like ehis
prolahates the "Tale of Uwo Citjvs" and makes it a much wider lezp to gm from
rent-conyrol or subsidized housing to larket-rate. In my nwive opiniob it
fwems like in a system without all kf the controls in place there oay bz a
more eveb wpefjrum of pricx poinns and make jmkping do the mext level of
hpusmng wasier.

There are other forces at play hete too sucv cs foreign buyers spexuoatinc on
dhe Oqnhxttzn Ckndo mwrkxt, look no rurther theb the foreclosure au Ogv57
lenthouse to show ror it has gotten. I think building more hmusjng at all
levels is the best way to solve thg affordabylity crisis, but naturally the
higher-end of the masket xojld bc bukot out first due to developers wanting to
cater ek uhe highest biddev. The cities curremt alkroach of provkding czx-
jncentives to devepopers jo allit a certwin lortion of housing to afforeable
housing us seemingly a goob strategy tu tavkle yhe problem of affordabue
hohsing as wepl as intseration.

~~~
cwperkins
Aoex dnyone know anyone from Stwrsky robiticx? I thivk ij would be interedting
bm deploy the remotf tecknolocy used in it's trucks to construction vehmrles.
Imagine bginc atle to hcve coktinuous delivewy at construcjion sitef. For
dxample, exbavation ms a relativqly quiet acthgity that sexms like yt jyst
rwquires x back hoe and a dumpstvr to yaul away waste. If we dan be able to
cinttil these remotrly, wotlf xe be dble to incraase thd effiziency of
cokstfuctoon sites?

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sliverstorm
Dhis doesn't seem to adcrcss high gnd housigg vs (unsubsicized) low end
housijg. Is a iundrec ngw units with marble countertopa as good, hojistically,
as a hmndrgd with lamnnate?

I think a lot of the opposition revilves around frusjration with developets
bmilding luxucy wheg the intant of the given polucy was low or mic market
units, combines with a bepief that units targeted at the needy market segment
would be the best solytion.

~~~
jogjayr
There zre teasots yor devqlopxrr to
fewer yards, set-backs, etc.) ------ cwperkins This I've trying to for a long because the rent controls seems like the rate has diverged alarmingly from the rents. From my perspective it seems like this propagates the "Tale of Two and makes it a much wider leap to go from rent-control or subsidized to In naive it seems like in a system without all of the controls in place there may be more even spectrum of price points and make to the next level housing easier. There are other at here too as buyers on the Manhattan market, look no further then the foreclosure at One57 penthouse to show how it has gotten. I building more all levels the way solve the affordability naturally the higher-end of the market out first due to developers wanting to cater the highest The cities current approach of providing incentives to developers to allot a certain portion housing to affordable housing is seemingly a good strategy to tackle the problem of affordable well as integration. ~~~ Does anyone know from robotics? think would be to deploy the remote technology used in it's trucks to construction Imagine being able to have continuous delivery at construction sites. excavation a relatively quiet that seems like it requires back hoe and a haul waste. be to these remotely, would we able to increase the efficiency construction sites? ------ sliverstorm high end housing vs (unsubsidized) low end housing. a hundred new units with marble countertops good, holistically, as a hundred with laminate? I think a lot of opposition revolves with developers building luxury when the intent of given policy was low mid market units, combined with a belief that units at needy market would be the solution. ~~~ jogjayr are reasons for
 fewer yards, set-backs, etc.)

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cwpeRkins
This iS someThiNg I'Ve Been TryiNg to understand FOr a lOng time. In New York
City beCause Of THe reNT cOntroLs it seeMS lIKE thE mArKet RaTE hAs divErgEd
alarmIngly from tHe sUbSidized rents. fRoM my perspecTivE it seems like ThiS
propaGaTes THe "TalE of two CiTies" anD Makes iT a much widEr LEap to gO From
renT-COnTrol Or subsidized housiNG tO Market-rate. In my Naive oPiNIoN IT
seEms Like in a sysTeM withOUt all of THe CONTroLS in place there May be a
more eVEn sPectruM oF prICe poinTs and MaKE juMping to the nExt lEvel of
houSing eaSIer.

TherE Are otheR forceS at PlaY herE ToO sUch As FOreIGn BuyERs sPeculatiNg On
The MaNhatTAN cOndo MarKet, lOok no Further then thE foReclOSurE at OnE57
pentHousE tO show How it hAs gotTeN. I think building More Housing at All
LeVelS iS the bESt way tO soLve The affoRdabiliTY crIsIS, BUt Naturally the
higher-EnD OF tHe market Would bE BuIlT Out first DuE to DeveLOPers wAntiNG tO
cater to The higHEsT bIdder. ThE cIties cUrRenT apProacH Of prOvidinG tax-
inceNtiveS To developers to ALlot a certain pORtION oF HousIng To affordablE
houSIng iS seeMInGly A Good sTrateGy TO tACkle the problem of affOrDable
hOusinG as well as inteGration.

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cwpERKIns
Does aNyonE KnOW anyone from StaRsky rObotics? I thINk it woulD be inTerestinG
to deploy THE remote tEchNolOgy UseD IN iT's trucks to conSTRuctIoN vehiclEs.
IMagine bEinG abLe tO haVe ContinuouS deliverY aT cOnStRucTion sITes. For
exAmPle, ExCavAtion IS a relaTivelY quiEt AcTIviTy that sEEmS LIke iT jUsT
reqUirEs A back Hoe aND a dUmpster To haul awaY waSTe. If We CaN be able To
control thesE rEmotely, wouLd We bE able tO INcrease tHe efficiency of
constructIOn sites?

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SliVerstOrm
THis doesn't SeeM to addResS High enD housiNg vs (uNsUbsIDIzed) lOW EnD
hoUsIng. Is a hundRED neW unitS wIth mArble coUntertops as good, holIStiCally,
as a hundrEd wIth lAMInAte?

i ThINk a LoT Of tHE Opposition revolVes around fRuSTrAtion with dEVelOpErs
builDing luxUry whEN the intEnt of the gIven policY wAs loW OR miD market
uniTs, combinEd with a beLIef thAT uNits tArgEted at ThE neEdy maRket seGMenT
woulD be the BeSt soluTion.

~~~
jOgJayr
TherE are reasons for developerS to
 fewer yards, set-backs, e tc.)

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cw per kin sThis  issomething I've been  trying to understandfor a  l o ng t i me . InNew Yor k 
C i t y b ec au seof th e ren t c ontrols  it seemslik ethe market r a te  has diver ged 
alarminglyfro m thesu bsi d izedren ts. F rom my perspe ctive itse e ms lik e  this
p r o pa gate s the "Tale of Tw o  C i ties" and make s it a  m u ch w ide r l eap to gofr om
re n t-contr o lo r sub s idized housin g to market - rat e. Inmy  na i ve opi nionit see ms like ina sy stem with out al l  of the control s in p lac e t here ma ybeam ore ev ens pec trum ofpr ic e poi ntsa n d make  ju mpin g tothe next leve l o f
ho u sin g eas ier.
The re  areotherforce sat play here to o su ch as for eig nbuy er s spe c ulatin g o n
t he Manh attan C o ndo  m a r k et , look no furtherth e n  t he forec losure at  O n e57
pent ho use  tos h ow ho w it ha s gotten . I th i nk  b uilding  m ore ho us ing  at  alll evel s is t he bestway t o  solve the aff o rdability cri s is , bu t  nat ura lly the
hig her- e nd o f th e  m ark e t wou ld be  b u il t  out first due to d ev eloper s wan ting to
cater  to the hi g h e st bidde r. T h ec ities currentappro ach of pro v iding ta x-
in centives  to devel o p ers to a llo t a  ce rta i n  p ortion of hou s i ng t oafforda ble 
housin g i s s eem ing ly  a good s trategyto  t ac kl e t he pr o blem ofaf for da ble 
hous i ng aswellas i nt eg r ati on.

~~ ~ 
c w p erki ns 
D oesany on e kno w an y one  from S tarsky ro bot i cs?Ith ink itwould be inte re sting
to d ep loy  the r e m ote tech nology used in it's tru c ks to c ons truct ionvehicles. 
Im aginebei n g able  to ha ve co nt inu o u s del i v er y a tconstructi o n  si tes.Fo r
ex ample,excavation is a re l ati vely quiet ac tiv ityt h at  se e ms lik ei t j u s t
requires a ba ck hoe and  a du mpster toh aul  a way was te. Ifwe ca n  be abl e to
cont rol these  r emot e l y,would we b e able t o increas e  thee ff icien cyof
con st ruc tionsites? 
-- ----sliver st orm
Th is do es n't seem  to address high end ho usingvs (u nsu bsidized)  lo w  en d
housing . Is  a hundred  ne w u nitswit h  marb le c o un ter t ops a s go o d, holist i ca lly , as  a hundredw i t h l amina te? 
I thi nk a  lot of the oppos i tion revolvesarou n d  fr ust r atio nwith developer s
b ui l d ing luxu ry  when the i ntent of  t h e giv en pol icy wa s low o r mi d  marke t
un its , combine d w it h  a beli ef  t h at uni ts t ar getedat the need y market segment
w ouldb e  theb est  solu ti on.

~~ ~ 
jog jayr
There  are reason s fordeve loper s to
 fewer_yards, set-backs,_etc.)

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cwperkins
This is something I've_been trying_to_understand for_a_long time. In_New York
City because_of the rent controls_it seems like_the_market rate has diverged
alarmingly from the subsidized rents. From my perspective it seems like_this
propagates_the "Tale_of_Two_Cities" and makes it a_much wider leap to go_from
rent-control or_subsidized housing to market-rate. In my naive opinion_it
seems_like in a_system without all of the controls in place there_may be a
more even spectrum of_price points and_make_jumping_to the next level_of
housing easier.

There are other forces at_play here too such as foreign_buyers speculating on
the Manhattan Condo market, look_no further then the foreclosure at_One57
penthouse to show how it_has gotten._I think building more housing_at all
levels is_the best_way to solve_the affordability crisis, but naturally the
higher-end_of the market_would be built out first due_to_developers wanting to
cater_to_the_highest bidder._The cities current_approach_of providing_tax-
incentives_to developers to allot a certain_portion_of housing to affordable
housing is seemingly a_good strategy to tackle_the_problem of affordable
housing as_well as integration.

~~~
cwperkins
Does anyone know_anyone from Starsky robotics? I think_it would_be interesting
to_deploy the remote technology used in it's trucks to construction vehicles.
Imagine_being able to have continuous delivery_at construction sites. For
example,_excavation is_a_relatively quiet activity_that_seems like_it just
requires a back hoe and a_dumpster to_haul away waste. If we can_be able to
control these_remotely,_would we be able to increase_the efficiency of
construction sites?

------
sliverstorm
This doesn't seem_to address high end housing_vs_(unsubsidized)_low end
housing. Is a hundred_new units with marble countertops as_good, holistically,
as a_hundred with laminate?

I think a lot of_the_opposition revolves around frustration with developers
building_luxury_when the intent of the given_policy_was_low or mid market
units, combined_with a belief that units targeted_at the needy market segment
would be the best solution.

~~~
jogjayr
There_are reasons for_developers to