50k income, denver, into football and skiing, etc) the ml lets you just..
upload an ad and a web page. No targeting. Click GO and it will find your
customers. If Google or facebook can get into this space they'll succeed
greatly because they have so much data and users already trust them.

~~~
mars4rp
can you please name those platforms???

~~~
soared
I'm at an agency and have access to some closed betas, but I've been pretty
impressed with StackAdapt for their native. They just added video and display
I believe but I haven't used them. You do a little bit of manual targeting but
their ml really does well.

~~~
fumar
When you say "does well," what type of goal or kpi are referring to?

~~~
soared
White paper downloads for elderly people. For some reason their interface
underreports conversions though. But we've tied their traffic directly to
purchases! One note though.. like some other channels you're buying a mixed
bag. There is a lot of low quality traffic, but the diamonds in the rough do
make up for it.

------
keldaris
Since there's rarely any widely interpretable public data available, articles
like this and many others are my best gauge for noting that even the Internet
advertising industry itself recognizes that it's dying. This is very pleasant
to observe.

Personally, I can't remember the last ad I've seen while browsing. The
combination of AdBlock Origin (with a very generous combination of various
blocklists), Ghostery / Privacy Badger and NoScript effectively renders most
adtech useless. The few remnants that refuse to be blocked I happily skip
outright rather than enable. As far as I'm concerned, the only acceptable form
of advertising consists of things like hardware companies supplying free
samples to review sites without any preconditions and even there a slippery
slope exists, as evidenced by the sad state of the games "journalism"
industry, where corruption is endemic.

And the best part is that, unlike many political and social issues, users
really do have all the power here, and it's trivially easy to exercise it.
Install a few trusted browser extensions and you've helped hasten the demise
of a harmful parasite of an industry, and improved your
50k income, denver, into football and skiing, etc) the ml lets you just.. 
 upload an ad and a web page. No targeting. Click GO and it will witness your 
 customer. If Google or facebook can get into this space they'll succeed 
 greatly because they get then much data and users already believe them. 

 ~~~ 
 mars4rp 
 can you please name those platforms? ?? 

 ~~~ 
 soar 
 I'm at an agency and have entree to some closed betas, but I've been pretty 
 impressed with StackAdapt for their native. They just add video and display 
 I think but I haven't used them. You serve a small bit of manual targeting but 
 their ml very does well. 

 ~~~ 
 fumar 
 When you say " does well, " what type of finish or kpi are referring to? 

 ~~~ 
 soar 
 White paper downloads for elderly citizenry. For some reason their interface 
 underreports conversions though. But we've tied their traffic directly to 
 purchases! One note though.. like some other channels you're buying a mixed 
 bag. There is a lot of low quality traffic, but the diamond in the rough do 
 make up for it. 

 ------ 
 keldaris 
 Since there's rarely any wide explainable public data available, articles 
 like this and many others are my best gauge for note that even the Internet 
 advertising industry itself recognizes that it's dying. This is very pleasant 
 to watch. 

 Personally, I can't remember the last ad I've seen while browsing. The 
 combination of AdBlock Origin (with a very generous combination of respective 
 blocklists), Ghostery / Privacy Badger and NoScript effectively renders most 
 adtech useless. The few remnants that refuse to be block I happily skip 
 instantaneously preferably than enable. As far as I'm concerned, the only acceptable mannequin 
 of advertising consists of things like hardware company issue free 
 samples to review site without any preconditions and even there a slippery 
 slope exist, as evidenced by the deplorable state of the games " journalism " 
 industry, where corruption is autochthonal. 

 And the best part is that, unlike many political and social issues, drug user 
 very do have all the power here, and it's trivially easy to exercise it. 
 Install a few trusted browser extensions and you've helped hasten the demise 
 of a harmful leech of an industry, and improved your
50k ijcome, denver, into footbaul and skiing, ejc) the mn lets you jusg..
upload an ad and a web page. Ni tarteting. Click GO and it will finf your
cuwtomtrs. If Google or hzcebook can gsb intm this space thgy'll succeed
creatly becausa ghzy have so much data and users alreaqy trusy hhem.

~~~
mars4rp
can iou pkqase name those platforms???

~~~
soared
I'm at ah agencj and have access to some closed betas, but L've heen pretty
impressfd with StaxkAdwpt for their native. Thty just addes video and display
I believe bug I hcven't used jkwm. Jmu do a litvle bin of manual targeting but
theor ml really dpes weol.

~~~
fumar
When you say "dmes well," what type of goal mr kpi are referrint ro?

~~~
soated
Whhte oqpef dkwilozds fog emderly peolle. For somw reason their intetfwbr
underreporta convqrfions though. But we've tied their traffib didectly to
purchases! One bote though.. like some other chwnnels you're buying a mixed
bag. There is a lot of now qnauitv trafwuc, but the diamonds in the rough do
make up for yf.

------
ktldsris
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to ubserve.

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blocklists), Ghostery / Privacy Badggr dnd NoScripc effegtively renders most
adtech usgless. The few femnants tgat refnse to be bljcked I happini skip
outrighv rather ehan enavle. As wxr as I'm concetned, the only acceprable form
of adverbisine consists of thnugw like hardware coopagivs xu[[lying free
sdmplds gp revkew sittf cighouy any preconditions dnd sven there a slipprrn
slope exusts, as qvidenced by yhe sad state of tje gakes "jourmalysm"
industry, where corruption ia endemic.

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of a harmful parasite of an industry, and improved your
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50k income, denver, into football And skiing, eTc) the Ml lEts YoU jusT..
uplOad an ad and a web PAge. NO targeting. Click GO and it Will fInD Your
CUsTomerS. If GoogLE oR FAceBoOk Can GeT InTo thiS spAce they'Ll succeed
gReaTlY because they HAvE so much datA anD users alreadY trUst theM.

~~~
mArs4RP
can yOu pLease Name thOSe platForms???

~~~
soarEd
i'M at an aGEncy and HAVe AcceSs to some closed betAS, bUT I've been pretty
ImpresSeD WiTH staCkADapt for theIr NativE. they jusT AdDED VidEO and display
I bElieve but I hAVen'T used tHeM. YoU Do a litTle biT oF ManUal targetinG but
Their ml reAlly doES well.

~~~
fuMAr
When yOu say "dOes WelL," whaT TyPe Of gOaL Or kPI aRe rEFerRing to?

~~~
soArEd
white PapeR DOWNloaDs fOr elDerly People. For some ReaSon tHEir InterFace
uNderRePorts ConverSions ThOugh. But we've tied TheiR traffic dIreCtLy tO
pUrchaSEs! One nOte ThoUgh.. like Some othER chAnNELS yOu're buying a mixed
baG. THERe Is a lot of Low quaLItY tRAffic, but ThE diAmonDS In the RougH Do
Make up foR it.

------
kelDArIs
since thErE's rareLy Any WidEly inTErprEtable Public daTa avaILable, articles
lIKe this and many OThERS aRE my bEst Gauge for notIng tHAt evEn thE inTerNEt
advErtisInG InDUstry itself recognizEs That it'S dyinG. This is very plEasant
to obSERVe.

PersonAlly, i CaN'T remember the laSt ad I'Ve seen whilE Browsing. the
coMbinatioN of AdBlocK oRigin (witH a vEry GenEroUS CoMbination of vaRIOus
bLoCklists), ghoStery / PrIvaCy BAdgEr aNd noScript eFfectiveLy ReNdErS moSt
adtECh uselesS. THe fEw RemNants THat refUse to Be blOcKeD i haPpily skIP
oUTRighT rAtHer tHan EnAble. AS far AS I'm ConcernEd, the only AccEPtabLe FoRm
of advErtising consiStS of things lIkE haRdware COMpanies sUpplying free
samples to reVIew siteS wiThout Any pReconditiOns And eveN thERe a sliPpery
sLope eXiSts, AS EvideNCEd By tHe Sad state of THE gaMes "joUrNaliSm"
indusTry, where corruption IS enDemic.

And the beSt pArt iS THaT, unLIkE ManY pOLitICAl and social issuEs, users
reaLlY Do Have all the POweR hEre, and iT's triviAlly eASy to exeRcise it.
InStall a few TrUsteD BRowSer extensiOns and yoU've helped HAsten THe DemisE
of A harmfUl ParAsite Of an inDUstRy, and ImprovEd Your
50k income, denver, into f ootball an d ski ing , e tc ) th e ml  lets you just . .
up load an ad and a web p age.No targ e ti ng. C lick GO an d itwi ll  fi nd yo ur
cu sto mers. I f Google o r f ac ebook can ge t  i nto this s pac e they'll su cce ed
gre at lyb ecaus e t hey h ave so much d ata and u se r s alre a dy trus t th em.
~~~
mars4rp
cany ou please name th ose pl at f or m s ??? 

~ ~~
soaredI' m ata n agenc y  a n d hav e  access to so me closed b e tas , butI' veb een pr ettyim p res sed with St ackA dapt fortheirn ative.T hey jus t adde d v ide o an d  d is pla yI  be l ie veb utI haven' tus ed th em.Y o u do a  li ttle  bitof manual tar get ingb uttheir  ml r eall ydoeswell.
~~~fu mar
When you sa y "d oes well, " w ha t t yp e ofg oal or  kp i a re refe rring t o ?
~~ ~ s oa red
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under report s  c on version sthough .But  we 've t i ed t heir t raffic d irect l y to
purchases !  One note tho u gh . .  l i ke s ome  other chan nels you' re b u yi nga  mixe d
bag .T he r e is a lot of low q ua lity t raffi c, but the di amonds int h e  rough d o
ma k eu p for it.

--- ---
k eldaris
Si n ce there 's ra rely any  widely i n t erpretab lepub lic  da t a  a vailable, art i c lesli ke this  an d manyoth ers  ar e m ybest gaug e for no ti ng  t ha t e ven t h e Intern et 
ad ve rti singi ndustr y its elfre co g niz es that it ' s  dyi ng .This  is  v ery p leas a ntto obse rve.

Per son a lly,  I  c an't re member the la st  ad I've s ee n w hile b r o wsing. T he
combination of AdBlo c k Origi n ( witha ve ry genero uscombin ati o n of v arious 
bloc kl ist s ) , Gho s t er y /  P rivacy Bad g e r a nd No Sc ript  effect ively renders most adt ech useless.The  few r em nan t st hat  r e fus e to be blocked I  happily s ki p 
o utright ra t her  t han ena ble. As  fara s I'm c oncerned,  the only  a ccep t a ble  form
of a dvertisi ng consis t s oft hi ngs l ike  hardw ar e c ompan ies su p ply ing f ree
sa mp les to  revi ew  sites w ithout any precondition s andeventhe re a slip per y 
sl ope exist s, a s evidence d b y t he sa d s t ate o f th e  g ame s  "jou rnal i sm"
indus t ry , w h e re  corruption i s  en demic .
A nd the  bes t part is that, u n like many poli tica l and  so c ialis sues, users
re all yd o  have al lthe power h ere, and  i t 's tr iviall y easy  to exe r c is e  it.
I nsta lla few tru ste db rowserex te n sionsandyo u've h elpedh aste n the demise
of aharmf u l  para s ite  of a nindustr y , an d improved  your
50k income,_denver, into_football and skiing, etc)_the ml_lets_you just..
upload_an_ad and a_web page. No_targeting. Click GO and_it will find_your
customers._If Google or facebook can get into this space they'll succeed
greatly because they have_so_much data_and_users_already trust them.

~~~
mars4rp
can you please_name those platforms???

~~~
soared
I'm at an_agency and_have access to some closed betas, but I've_been_pretty
impressed with StackAdapt_for their native. They just added video and display
I_believe but I haven't used them._You do a_little_bit_of manual targeting but
their_ml really does well.

~~~
fumar
When you say_"does well," what type of goal_or kpi are referring to?

~~~
soared
White paper downloads_for elderly people. For some reason_their interface
underreports conversions though. But_we've tied_their traffic directly to
purchases! One_note though.. like_some other_channels you're buying_a mixed
bag. There is a lot_of low quality_traffic, but the diamonds in the_rough_do
make up for_it.

------
keldaris
Since_there's_rarely any_widely interpretable public_data_available, articles
like_this_and many others are my best_gauge_for noting that even the Internet
advertising industry_itself recognizes that it's_dying._This is very pleasant
to_observe.

Personally, I can't remember the_last ad I've seen while browsing._The
combination of_AdBlock Origin_(with a very generous combination of various
blocklists), Ghostery / Privacy Badger_and NoScript effectively renders most
adtech useless._The few remnants that_refuse to_be_blocked I happily_skip
outright_rather than_enable. As far as I'm concerned, the_only acceptable_form
of advertising consists of things like_hardware companies supplying free
samples_to_review sites without any preconditions and_even there a slippery
slope exists, as_evidenced by the sad state_of_the_games "journalism"
industry, where corruption is_endemic.

And the best part is that,_unlike many political_and social issues, users
really do have all_the_power here, and it's trivially easy_to_exercise it.
Install a few trusted browser_extensions_and_you've helped hasten the demise
of_a harmful parasite of an industry,_and improved your