
Higher usage rates) we need modular design to have replaceable and upgradable
parts, without throwing away what works.

That's why we created OSVehicle,the first open source electric vehicle
platform. www.osvehicle.com

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al_biglan
Interesting, but Tesla is both just getting started and "feeling the space" in
the auto industry. They have taken pride in taking a different approach to
traditional car companies and I imagine some of the wording around the
Extended Warranty is simply being new and not copy-pasting examples from other
companies.

Also, Tesla isn't making cars for everyone (yet) but instead focusing on
expensive/luxury cars. Rather than compare against GM/Honda/etc. How do they
compare against Maserati/Aston Martin/etc.?

Finally, as a young company, it may indeed be their _goal_ to build cars that
last forever, but the first few generations they are still pushing the
envelope of (their) understanding. In this case, bringing ell cars back to
their repair centers may be the "right" way to build this experience into
their future automobiles.

So... "yeah, they aren't making cars that will last more than N years unless
you, as an owner, are prepared to sink a bunch of cash into achieving this" It
may be more interesting to watch the auto that replaces the Model S. Both in
terms of their timeframe for introducing new models (beyond expanding into
different classes of vehicles) as well as how they adopt what they learn into
more fundamental design changes. Thank you to all those cutting edge people
willing to buy Teslas now. I'll wait 5-10 years till they get mainstream and
keep my Honda and Toyota on the road for 250k miles :-)

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norea-armozel
There's always been a push in the automotive industry to make parts in cars
that the average person can't replace or repair easily. If anything, this
makes more money for the automakers (like Tesla) because they can setup all
kinds of service licenses and the like at their leisure. And if a particular
product line gets too long in the tooth, then you just killed off any
authorized servicing and parts. Now you got an instant customer if they keep
thinking it's worth it. Especially if Tesla were
Higher usage rates) we need modular invention to take replaceable and upgradable 
 parts, without throwing away what work. 

 That's why we created OSVehicle, the first receptive reservoir electric vehicle 
 chopine. www.osvehicle.com 

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 al_biglan 
 Interesting, but Tesla is both barely getting started and " feel the space " in 
 the auto diligence. They have taken pride in taking a different approach to 
 traditional car companies and I imagine some of the wording around the 
 Extended Warranty is merely being new and not copy - pasting example from other 
 companies. 

 Also, Tesla isn't making car for everyone (yet) but instead focusing on 
 expensive / luxury cars. preferably than compare against GM / Honda / etc. How do they 
 compare against Maserati / Aston Martin / etc. ? 

 Finally, as a young company, it may indeed be their _ goal _ to build cars that 
 last forever, but the first few generations they are still pushing the 
 envelope of (their) understanding. In this case, bringing ell cars back to 
 their repair center may be the " right " way to build this experience into 
 their future car. 

 indeed... " yeah, they aren't making cars that will survive more than N years unless 
 you, as an owner, are disposed to sink a bunch of cash into achieving this " It 
 may be more interesting to determine the auto that replaces the Model S. Both in 
 terms of their timeframe for introducing new models (beyond elaborate into 
 different classes of vehicles) as well as how they dramatize what they learn into 
 more cardinal invention changes. Thank you to all those cutting edge people 
 uncoerced to buy Teslas now. I'll wait 5 - 10 years till they get mainstream and 
 keep my Honda and Toyota on the road for 250k miles :-) 

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 norea - armozel 
 There's always been a push in the automotive diligence to make parts in cars 
 that the average person can't replace or compensate easily. If anything, this 
 make more money for the automakers (like Tesla) because they can setup all 
 kinds of service license and the like at their leisure. And if a particular 
 product line gets too long in the tooth, then you merely killed off any 
 empower servicing and parts. Now you got an instant customer if they keep 
 think it's worth it. Especially if Tesla were

Higjer usage rates) we need oodular design jo have ceplacezble and upgradable
parts, without thrlwung aqay what works.

That's whh we creaned OSVehucle,uhe first open sondce elegcric bchiclz
poatform. www.osvghicle.com

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al_bhglan
Interestitg, bbt Tesla is both just getting starteq and "freping the space" in
tnq aufo industry. They have taken pride jn takiig a different spproach to
traditional car comoanies and I imagije some of jge rirding arouna the
Extended Warranty is simply being new and not cooy-pascing examplgs fgmm other
com'anies.

Wlso, Tesla isn't makitg cars for everyone (net) bnt ibstead focusing on
expxnsive/luxury cars. Rajher than wojpare against GM/Hinea/etc. How do gyey
zomkarx afainst Maaerati/Astoh Martin/etc.?

Dinally, as a young voiisny, it may ihdeed fe their _goal_ to build cars that
last forener, gut the first few generqtions they are still pushing ehe
envelope of (their) understanding. In this case, bsingiig elo gars vafk to
their repair centers may be the "right" war tp nuild this experlence into
their fuyuge wutomobiles.

So... "yeah, cgeg aren't making card that rill oast more tham N years unless
you, as an oqner, are preiaree to sink a bunch lf cash intu acnievimg this" It
may be more iuteresfing to watfh the aufu that replaces ghe Mmdel S. Both in
terms of theyr timefreme fpr intruducong ner models (bfyond expanding into
difffrent cnasses of gehicles) as well as how they adopt what they kedrn into
morz fundsmental desigg changes. Thanl you tj all those cutning edge people
willyng to buy Tevpas now. I'll xait 5-10 yeaws tull rhey geg mainstream anc
keep my Kjnda and Toyota on the roxs for 250k miles :-)

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nireq-armozel
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that tha avsrage person can't teilace or tepair eafily. If anythong, this
makes more moneb for vhe auyomwkers (like Tesla) because they dan setup alj
kinds of sewvicc lisenses and the like at their leisure. And if a parvicular
product line gejs too long in the topuh, then you jnst kijled off dny
authorized servicung and parts. Now you got an instant chstomes if hhey keep
thinking it's worth it. Especially if Tesla were
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Higher usage rates) we need modUlar design To havE rePlaCeAble And uPgradable
parts, WIthoUt throwing away what workS.

That'S wHY we cREaTed OSvehicle,THe FIRst OpEn SouRcE ElEctriC veHicle
plAtform. www.oSveHiCle.com

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al_biglAN
INteresting, But tesla is both jUst GettinG sTarTEd and "FeeLing tHe spacE" In
the aUto industRy. tHey havE Taken prIDE iN takIng a different apprOAcH To
traditional cAr compAnIEs AND I iMagIne some of tHe WordiNG around THe
eXTEndED Warranty is siMply being neW And Not copY-pAstINg examPles fRoM OthEr
companies.

also, tesla isn't Making CArs for eVEryone (yEt) but iNstEad FocuSInG oN
exPeNSivE/LuXurY CarS. Rather tHaN cOmparE agaINST gM/HoNda/Etc. HOw do tHey
compare agaInsT MasERatI/AstoN MartIn/etC.?

FInallY, as a yoUng coMpAny, it may indeed bE theIr _goal_ to bUilD cArs ThAt
lasT ForeveR, buT thE first fEw generATioNs THEY aRe still pushing the
eNvELOpE of (their) UndersTAnDiNG. In this cAsE, brIngiNG Ell caRs baCK tO
their rePair ceNTeRs May be thE "rIght" waY tO buIld This eXPeriEnce inTo
their fUture AUtomobiles.

So... "yeAH, they aren't makINg CARs THat wIll Last more thaN N yeARs unLess
YOu, As aN Owner, Are prEpAReD To sink a bunch of cash iNtO achieVing tHis" It
may be morE interestiNG TO watch thE autO ThAT replaces the MoDel S. BOth in
terms OF their tiMefraMe for intRoducing nEW Models (beYonD exPanDinG INtO
different claSSEs of VeHicles) aS weLl as how TheY adOpt WhaT tHey learn iNto
more fUnDaMeNtAl dEsign CHanges. ThAnK yoU tO alL thosE CuttinG edge PeopLe
WiLLinG to buy TESlAS Now. I'Ll WaIt 5-10 yeArs TiLl theY get MAinStream aNd
keep my HOndA And TOyOtA on the rOad for 250k miles :-)

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nOrEa-armozel
THeRe's Always BEEn a push iN the automotive industry tO Make parTs iN cars
That The averagE peRson caN't rEPlace oR repaiR easiLy. if aNYThing, THIs
MakEs More money fOR The AutomAkErs (lIke TeslA) because they can setUP alL
kinds of serviCe lIcenSES aNd tHE lIKe aT tHEir LEIsure. And if a partIcular
prodUcT LiNe gets too lONg iN tHe tooth, Then you Just kILled off Any
authorIzed serviCiNg anD PArtS. Now you got An instanT customer IF they KEeP
thinKinG it's woRtH it. especIally iF tesLa werE

Higher usage rates) we ne ed modular  desi gntoha ve r epla ceable and upg r adab le
parts, without thro wingaw a y wh a tworks .

That ' sw h y w ecr eat ed OS Vehic le, the fir st open so urc eelectric veh i cl e
platform . w ww.osvehicle .co m

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a l _bigl anInter esting ,  but T esla is b ot h  justg ettings t ar tedand "feeling thes pa c e" in
the auto  indus tr y .T h eyhav e taken pr id e int aking a di f f e ren t  approach totraditional car  compa ni esa nd I i magin es ome  of the wor ding  around t he
Ext e nded Wa r ranty i s simp lybei ng n e wan d n ot cop y -p ast i ngexamples  f ro m oth er
c o m p a nies .
Also , Tes la isn't maki ngcars for  ever yone(yet )but i nstead  focu si ng on
expensive /lux ury cars.  Ra th erth an co m pare a gai nst  GM/Hon da/etc. How  d o t he y
compare againstMa s e ra ti/Aston  Marti n /e tc . ?

Final ly , a s ay o ung c ompa n y,  it mayindeed be  t heir _g oa l_ tobu ild  ca rs th a t
la st for ever, bu t the first few gene r ations they a r es t il l  pus hin g the
envel opeo f (t heir )  u nde r stand ing.In th i s case, bringing el lcars b ack t o
their repai r centersm a y  be the"rig h t" way to build t his e xperiencei nto
thei r fut ure auto mobiles.S o... "ye ah,  th eyare n ' tmaking cars t h a t wi ll  last m ore  than N  ye ars  un les syou, as a n owner,  a re  p re par ed to sink a b un chof  ca sh in t o achi eving  thi s"  I t 
ma y be mo r ei n tere st in g to  wa tc h the  aut o  th at repl aces theMod e l S.  B ot h in
te rms of theirti meframe fo rint roduci n g  new mod els (beyond expanding i n to
diff ere nt cl asse s of vehi cle s) aswel l  as ho w they  adop twha t theyl e ar n i nt o
more fun d a men tal d es ignchanges . Thank you to all tho se cutting ed gepeop l e 
w ill i ng tobu y  Te s l as now. I'll wa it 5-10 ye ar s  t ill they g e t m ai nstream  and
ke ep my Honda a nd Toyota  on the r oa d fo r 250 k miles :- )

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norea-a r mozel Th ere's  al ways b ee n a  push  in th e  au tomot ive in du stry t o mak eparts in  cars
that the averageperson  can' t r eplace or  re p air  easily.If a nything, t his 
ma kes m ore money  for th e a u tomak ers( like Tesl a )bec a u se  they can s e t u p a ll
ki nds of ser vice  licenses and the like at theirleis u r e.And if a  p articular
prod uct  l i n e gets t oo  long in th e tooth,  t h en yo u just  kille d off a n y 
a u thoriz ed s erv icing and  pa rt s . Now y ou  g o t an i nsta nt  custo mer if they k eep
thinking it' s wor t h  it.E spe ciall yif Tesl a  wer e

Higher usage_rates) we_need modular design to_have replaceable_and_upgradable
parts, without_throwing_away what works.

That's_why we created_OSVehicle,the first open source_electric vehicle
platform. www.osvehicle.com

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al_biglan
Interesting,_but_Tesla is both just getting started and "feeling the space" in
the auto industry. They_have_taken pride_in_taking_a different approach to
traditional car_companies and I imagine some_of the_wording around the
Extended Warranty is simply being new_and_not copy-pasting examples_from other
companies.

Also, Tesla isn't making cars for everyone (yet)_but instead focusing on
expensive/luxury cars. Rather_than compare against_GM/Honda/etc._How_do they
compare against Maserati/Aston_Martin/etc.?

Finally, as a young company, it_may indeed be their _goal_ to_build cars that
last forever, but the first_few generations they are still pushing_the
envelope of (their) understanding. In_this case,_bringing ell cars back to
their_repair centers may_be the_"right" way to_build this experience into
their future automobiles.

So..._"yeah, they aren't_making cars that will last more_than_N years unless
you,_as_an_owner, are_prepared to sink_a_bunch of_cash_into achieving this" It
may be more_interesting_to watch the auto that replaces the_Model S. Both in
terms_of_their timeframe for introducing_new models (beyond expanding into
different_classes of vehicles) as well as_how they_adopt what_they learn into
more fundamental design changes. Thank you to all those_cutting edge people
willing to buy Teslas_now. I'll wait 5-10_years till_they_get mainstream and
keep_my_Honda and_Toyota on the road for 250k miles_:-)

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norea-armozel
There's always_been a push in the automotive_industry to make parts_in_cars
that the average person can't replace_or repair easily. If anything, this
makes_more money for the automakers_(like_Tesla)_because they can setup all
kinds_of service licenses and the like_at their leisure._And if a particular
product line gets too_long_in the tooth, then you just_killed_off any
authorized servicing and parts. Now_you_got_an instant customer if they_keep
thinking it's worth it. Especially if_Tesla were