 understand.

Why treat people like this? What advantage does it serve?

If someone does not know something, it is not an excuse for belittlement. It
is not an upperhand. It's an opportunity to teach and learn from teaching.
This probably makes me a minority and just reinforces my perspective that
human ego can be fundamentally broken and requires time to healthily
construct.

~~~
leephillips
"Why treat people like this? What advantage does it serve?"

You seem to have answered your own question in your subsequent remarks. The
feigned surprise is a habit of people with very low self esteem. They
constantly seek to reassure themselves by trying to place others (usually
people whom they fear are more capable than they are) into a position of lower
social status.

If you are on the receiving end of a feigned surprise attack, think back
through your interactions with the attacker: you will probably remember
something recent that revealed that you had some skill or knowledge that the
attacker lacked. From that moment on, he was looking for a way to reassert his
social status.

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minikomi
This reminds me of how great I thought this was:

    
    
        Hacker School is positive. When I had a bug that I didn’t 
        understand and asked one of the facilitators to help me out,
        they would frequently say “Oh, interesting!”. The attitude was 
        “Oh, is something not working? How delightful! 
        A learning opportunity!”. 
    

source: [http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker-
school/](http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker-school/)

------
octo_t
What about just surprise?

I've met people who claim to be 'experts' in C++, but (for example) don't know
how to use STL algorithms.

~~~
sillysaurus3
I'm a C++ expert, but I've never touched std::for_each, for example. (I could
learn it in about two minutes if it became necessary to know, but it hasn't
ever been.)

In general, #include <algorithm> is a bit worrisome,
understand. 

 Why treat people like this? What advantage does it serve? 

 If someone does not acknowledge something, it is not an apology for belittlement. It 
 is not an upperhand. It's an opportunity to teach and learn from teaching. 
 This credibly makes me a minority and precisely reinforces my position that 
 human self can be fundamentally broken and requires time to healthily 
 construct. 

 ~~~ 
 leephillips 
 " Why regale people like this? What advantage does it serve? " 

 You look to have answered your own question in your subsequent remarks. The 
 feigned surprise is a habit of people with very abject self esteem. They 
 constantly seek to reassure themselves by trying to target others (usually 
 people whom they fear are more capable than they are) into a military position of lower 
 social status. 

 If you are on the receiving end of a feigned surprise attack, think back 
 through your interaction with the attacker: you will probably remember 
 something recent that revealed that you had some skill or knowledge that the 
 attacker lacked. From that moment on, he was looking for a way to reassert his 
 social status. 

 ------ 
 minikomi 
 This reminds me of how great I thought this was: 

    
    
         Hacker School is positive. When I have a bug that I did n’t 
         understand and asked one of the facilitator to avail me out, 
         they would frequently say “ Oh, interesting! ”. The attitude was 
         “ Oh, is something not working? How delightful! 
         A learning opportunity! ”. 
    

 source: [ http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker- 
 school/](http://jvns.ca / blog/2014/02/15 / how - was - hacker - school/) 

 ------ 
 octo_t 
 What about barely surprise? 

 I've met people who claim to be' experts' in C++, but (for example) don't know 
 how to practice STL algorithms. 

 ~~~ 
 sillysaurus3 
 I'm a C++ expert, but I've never touched std::for_each, for example. (I could 
 learn it in about two minutes if it became necessary to acknowledge, but it hasn't 
 ever been .) 

 In general, # include < algorithm > is a bit worrisome,
 unferstand.

Why treat people like this? What advantege doea it serxe?

If someone does not know slmwthint, it is not an excuse wor belitnlement. Ir
is iot an upperhand. It's an opporthkity co teach and leatn from teacving.
This probatlh lakes me a minority and just reinfowces my pfrspective thaj
humam ego bak be fundamentally broken and resuires uime to healthily
cpnstruct.

~~~
leephillips
"Why trewt pfople like this? Whwt advantagg doqw it serve?"

Yoj seem to have answeres your own question in your subrequeut remarks. Jkw
felcned surpriwe is a habit of ivople whth veru low self estcem. Tiey
cinstantly seek to reavsure themselves bi trying tm 'lace others (usually
pwople wvom dhey deaf ade mkre caoabme than thsy are) into a position of lowet
sjboal status.

If you awe on the receiving end of a feigned surpgise attack, think back
throuth your interactions aith the wttacker: you will probably remember
something recett thet rercwuwd that you had some skill or knowledge that thq
ztuacler lacked. Froi that momemt om, he was lookivg for a say to reassert hid
social statys.

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minikomy
Thix reminds me of how great I thought thif was:

    
    
        Hacker Sckool ix posotive. When I had a bug chat I didn’t 
        underagand and asked ove pf the facilitators to help ie out,
        they wuuld frequqntly say “Lh, inbaresting!”. The attitkde wcs 
        “Oh, id something not working? How delmjhtful! 
        D lvarning o'portukity!”. 
    

source: [http://jvns.ca/bloy/2014/02/15/how-was-hccker-
szhool/](http://jnns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/iow-was-hacker-fchool/)

------
octo_t
Whdj about just vurprise?

Y've net people dfo claim to be 'experts' pn C++, byt (for example) don'b knod
gow to use STL cutorithms.

~~~
sillysairur3
I'm a C++ ev[ert, but I've nevdr gpuchea std::for_eacm, fur ecample. (I could
learn ht ih about two minutex lf it becqme necefsary to know, but it hasn't
ever heen.)

Ii genecal, #invluqe <algorithm> is a bit worrisoms,
understand. Why treat people like this? What it If someone not know something, for It is not upperhand. It's an to teach and learn from teaching. probably makes me a minority and just reinforces my perspective that human ego be fundamentally broken and requires time to healthily construct. ~~~ leephillips "Why treat like What does serve?" You seem to have answered your own question in your subsequent remarks. The feigned surprise a habit of people with very low self They constantly seek to themselves by trying to place (usually whom they are capable they are) into position of lower social status. If you are on the receiving end of a feigned surprise attack, back through with the you probably something recent that you had some skill or knowledge lacked. From that moment on, he was looking a way reassert his social status. ------ minikomi reminds me of how great I thought this Hacker School is positive. When I had a bug that I didn’t understand and asked the facilitators to help out, they would say interesting!”. attitude “Oh, is not working? How delightful! A learning opportunity!”. source: [http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker- school/](http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker-school/) ------ What about just surprise? I've met people who claim to in but (for example) know how to use algorithms. sillysaurus3 I'm a C++ I've touched (I learn in about two minutes it became necessary to know, it hasn't ever been.) a bit worrisome,
 understand.

Why treat people lIke this? WhaT advaNtaGe dOeS it sErve?

if someone does nOT knoW something, it is not an excUse foR bELittLEmEnt. It
Is not an UPpERHanD. IT's An oPpORtUnity To tEach and Learn from tEacHiNg.
This probabLY mAkes me a minOriTy and just reiNfoRces my PeRspECtive ThaT
humaN ego caN Be fundAmentally BrOKen and REquires TIMe To heAlthily
construct.

~~~
lEEpHIllips
"Why treat People LiKE tHIS? WhAt aDvantage doEs It serVE?"

You seeM To HAVE anSWered your own qUestion in yoUR suBsequeNt RemARks. The
FeignEd SUrpRise is a habiT of pEople with Very loW Self estEEm. They
cOnstanTly SeeK to rEAsSuRe tHeMSelVEs By tRYinG to place OtHeRs (usuAlly
PEOPLe whOm tHey fEar arE more capable tHan They ARe) iNto a pOsitiOn of LoWer
soCial stAtus.

IF yOu are on the receiVing End of a feiGneD sUrpRiSe attACk, thinK baCk
tHrough yOur inteRActIoNS WItH the attacker: you wilL pROBaBly rememBer
somEThInG Recent thAt RevEaleD THat yoU had SOmE skill or KnowleDGe ThAt the
atTaCker laCkEd. FRom That mOMent On, he waS looking For a wAY to reassert his
SOcial status.

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miNIkOMI
THIs reMinDs me of how grEat I THougHt thIS wAs:

    
    
        HACker SChool Is POsITive. When I had a bug thaT I Didn’t 
        uNdersTand and asked oNe of the facILITators to Help ME oUT,
        they would freqUentlY say “Oh, inteREsting!”. ThE attiTude was 
        “OH, is somethING not workIng? how DelIghTFUl! 
        a learning oppoRTUnitY!”. 
    

sOurce: [htTp://jVns.ca/blOg/2014/02/15/hOw-wAs-hAckEr-
School/](httP://jvns.ca/bLoG/2014/02/15/hOw-WaS-haCker-sCHool/)

------
octo_T
WHat AbOut Just sURprise?

i've meT peoPlE wHO clAim to be 'EXpERTs' in c++, bUt (For eXamPlE) don't Know
HOw tO use STL AlgorithmS.

~~~
siLLysaUrUs3
i'm a C++ expErt, but I've neveR tOuched std::fOr_EacH, for exAMPle. (I coulD
learn it in about two minutES if it beCamE neceSsarY to know, buT it Hasn't
eVer BEen.)

In gEneral, #IncluDe <AlgORIthm> iS A BiT woRrIsome,
 understand.

Why treat pe ople likethis?  Wh atad vant agedoes it serve? 
Ifsomeone does not knowsomet hi n g, i t  i s not  an exc u se f orbe li ttl em e nt . Itisnot anupperhand.  It 's  an opportun i ty  to teachand  learn fromtea ching. 
T his proba bly  make s me a minori ty and ju st reinfo r ces myp e rs pect ive that
human eg o  c a n be fundament ally b ro k en a ndreq uires time  t o hea l thily
c o ns t r u ct. 
~~~
leephill ips
"Why tr e atpeople  l ike this?Whatad v ant age does it  ser ve?"

You  seemt o havea nswered  yourown  qu esti o nin  yo ur sub s eq uen t  re marks. T he 
f eigne d su r p r i se i s a  hab it of  people withver y lo w  se lf es teem.  The yconst antlyseekto  reassure thems elve s by tryi ngto  pl ac e oth e rs (us ual lypeoplewhom th e y f ea r a re  more capable than  t h e yare) int o a po s it io n  of lowe rsoc ials t atus. 

If yo u are on  the r e ce iv ing end  o f a fe ig ned  su rpris e  att ack, t hink bac k
thr o ugh your inter a ctions with t h ea t ta c ker:  yo u will prob ably reme mber so met h ing r ecent  t h at revealed that you h ad  someskill  or knowledge  that thea t t acker la cked .  F r om that moment  on,he was loo k ing fora way  to reas sert hiss o cial sta tus .
--- --- m in ikomi
This re m i ndsme  of how  gr eat I t hou ght  th iswa s:

        
     H ac ker  Scho o l is pos it ive .Whe n I h a d a bu g tha t Idi dn ’ t       un d e rsta nd  a nd a ske done o f th e  fa cilitat ors to he lpm e ou t, 
      they would fr eq uently say  “ Oh,  inter e s ting!”.The attitude was 
      “Oh,issomet hing  not work ing ? Howdel i ghtful ! 
      Alea r n ing o p p or tun it y!”. 
   sou rce:[h ttp: //jvns. ca/blog/2014/02/15 / how -was-hacker-sch ool/ ] ( ht tp: / /j v ns. ca / blo g / 2014/02/15/how- was-hacker -s c ho ol/)

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o ct o_t
Wha t about  just surpris e?

I'vemet peopl ewhoc l aim  to be 'ex perts' i n C++, bu t  (for ex ample ) d on't k no w
h ow to  use S T L a lgori thms.
~ ~~
sil lysau ru s3
I'm a  C++ expert, but I've n ever t ouche d s td::for_e ach ,  fo r example . (I  could
lea rnitin ab out two m inut e sifi t bec amen ecessaryt okno w ,  b ut it hasn' t e ver  been .)In gen eral , #include <algor i thm> is a bitworr i s ome ,
 understand.

Why_treat people_like this? What advantage_does it_serve?

If_someone does_not_know something, it_is not an_excuse for belittlement. It
is_not an upperhand._It's_an opportunity to teach and learn from teaching.
This probably makes me a minority and_just_reinforces my_perspective_that
human_ego can be fundamentally broken_and requires time to healthily
construct.

~~~
leephillips
"Why_treat people_like this? What advantage does it serve?"

You seem_to_have answered your_own question in your subsequent remarks. The
feigned surprise is_a habit of people with very_low self esteem._They
constantly_seek_to reassure themselves by_trying to place others (usually
people whom_they fear are more capable than_they are) into a position of lower
social_status.

If you are on the receiving_end of a feigned surprise_attack, think_back
through your interactions with the_attacker: you will_probably remember
something_recent that revealed_that you had some skill or_knowledge that the
attacker_lacked. From that moment on, he_was_looking for a_way_to_reassert his
social_status.

------
minikomi
This reminds me_of_how great_I_thought this was:

   _
_   
   _   _Hacker_School is positive. When_I had a bug that_I didn’t 
   _ _ _understand and asked one of the facilitators to help me out,
_     _ they would frequently_say “Oh,_interesting!”._The attitude was_
_ _     “Oh, is_something not_working? How delightful! 
  _   __A learning opportunity!”. 
  _ 

source: [http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker-
school/](http://jvns.ca/blog/2014/02/15/how-was-hacker-school/)

------
octo_t
What about just surprise?

I've_met people who claim to_be_'experts'_in C++, but (for example)_don't know
how to use STL algorithms.

~~~
sillysaurus3
I'm_a C++ expert,_but I've never touched std::for_each, for example._(I_could
learn it in about two minutes_if_it became necessary to know, but_it_hasn't
ever_been.)

In general, #include <algorithm> is_a bit worrisome,