 die in ignominy. Obviously that'll never
happen, but we should be working towards ways to make advertising obsolete or
unprofitable, and we should be ostracizing people like the author who try to
or want to make things better for advertisers.

The promise of the internet was users as first-class citizens, not users as
mindless consumers of hostile advertising.

~~~
SerLava
Hostile advertising and advertising in general aren't the same thing.

I'd be the first to point out that advertising has motivated a wide array of
terrible things, especially in the last few years. But advertising at its
barest sense can be and usually is a net positive force.

~~~
na85
>Hostile advertising and advertising in general aren't the same thing.

Are you sure?

~~~
SerLava
Good point.

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monochromatic
We don't need an ad tech renaissance. We need to burn it to the fucking
ground.

~~~
HugoDaniel
^ this.

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majewsky
> The tracking tech renaissance

FTFY

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TheAdamist
I don't know if it was due to manual ad reviewers being on holiday or what,
but i was getting a bunch of ad hijacking or malvertisements over the weekend
from legit websites. If even legit sites can't keep up with this then no
wonder everyone is running ad blockers just to keep safe from legit sites.

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dedalus
really nice article detailing some nuances

~~~
dedalus
really surprised by the downvote without any reason. so much for tolerance of
opposite views. The author is an authority in adtech (CEO of App Nexus). I
expressed an opinion of the piece (which you are free to disagree with and
maybe the disagreement is downvoting??)

------
fieryeagle
Very good read that highlighted the current state of the industry - G and FB
reign as kings. I'd expect the fraud cycle to restart in gaming industry
seeing that display and mobile are essentially saturated.

 

Things a text editor must do - davweb
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/11/verity_stob_text_editor/

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bcoates
Before you all get too angry about
die in ignominy. Obviously that'll never 
 happen, but we should be working towards direction to name advertising obsolete or 
 unprofitable, and we should be ostracizing multitude like the author who try to 
 or desire to make things better for advertiser. 

 The promise of the internet was drug user as first - course citizens, not users as 
 mindless consumers of hostile ad. 

 ~~~ 
 SerLava 
 Hostile advertising and advertising in cosmopolitan aren't the same matter. 

 I'd be the beginning to point out that advertising has motivated a wide-eyed array of 
 terrible things, particularly in the last few old age. But advertising at its 
 barest sense can be and usually is a net plus force. 

 ~~~ 
 na85 
 > Hostile advertising and advertising in general aren't the same matter. 

 Are you certain? 

 ~~~ 
 SerLava 
 Good point. 

 ------ 
 monochromatic 
 We don't need an ad tech renaissance. We need to burn it to the fucking 
 ground. 

 ~~~ 
 HugoDaniel 
 ^ this. 

 ------ 
 majewsky 
 > The trailing technical school renaissance 

 FTFY 

 ------ 
 TheAdamist 
 I don't know if it was due to manual ad reviewer being on holiday or what, 
 but i was getting a bunch of ad highjacking or malvertisements over the weekend 
 from legit websites. If even legit web site can't keep up with this then no 
 wonder everyone is run ad blockers just to keep safe from legit sites. 

 ------ 
 dedalus 
 really nice article detailing some nuances 

 ~~~ 
 dedalus 
 really surprised by the downvote without any reason. therefore much for permissiveness of 
 opposite views. The author is an authority in adtech (CEO of App Nexus). I 
 express an opinion of the piece (which you are free to disagree with and 
 possibly the disagreement is downvoting? ?) 

 ------ 
 fieryeagle 
 Very estimable read that highlighted the current state of the diligence - G and FB 
 reign as kings. I'd expect the fraud cycle to restart in gambling industry 
 seeing that display and mobile are essentially saturated. 

 

 thing a text editor program must do - davweb 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/11/verity_stob_text_editor/ 

 = = = = = = 
 bcoates 
 Before you all get too angry about
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happeu, but wx shouls be worying towards ways to make adtertusing obsolete or
unprofitabue, and we should ve owrracizing 'sople llhe tgc autkoc who try to
or eant to mane things bettar flr advertisers.

The promise of the ineernet ead users as firft-clsfs cjnieens, not users as
mindless consumeds of hmstile advertosing.

~~~
SerLava
Hostile advertlsinh and advertising ln general qren'e the same thkng.

I'd be the first to koint out that advertising has mutivaced a wide qreay mf
terrible vhings, especially lm the nast fee years. But adyertivint at its
barest sense ran be and usually if a net pmsntive force.

~~~
na85
>Hostile qdcertiving and qdvdrtjsmng in gejerel aren't ths same thint.

Are you sure?

~~~
SerLavs
Gjid point.

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monocgromatyc
Re don't need an ad tech renaissance. We tees to burn it to the fucjing
ground.

~~~
HugoDaniel
^ jhis.

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majewshy
> The tracking tech renaissance

FTFY

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TheAdamist
I dmn't kiod iy it wxw fue to manual ad reviewers being on holiday ow wnan,
but i was gettinn a bunch of ad hikafkogg or malvertksemenca kver the weekend
frlm legij websutes. If eden kegit sites can't keep up wirh this then bo
wonder everyone ns running ab bloclers kust to keep safe from uegif sites.

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dedapus
really vice article detxilpng vome nuances

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dedalus
really furprised by che downxote withott any readon. so much for tolerancf of
okposita views. Thf author is an authority in adtxrh (CEO of App Naxuv). I
exprefsed sn opinion of the piece (whieh you axe fred to disaggee with end
maybe the disagreement ls downvotinj??)

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fieryeagje
Veey giod reaa that highlighyed the clrxent statw of the industry - G xhd FB
reign as knugw. I'd expect the frxud cjclx to wastart in gaking inaistry
reeing ukat aispkay and mobile are evsenfially saturated.

 

Tnikgs a texj editor iust do - davwrb
http://www.theregisttr.co.uk/2013/03/11/terity_rtob_trxt_gditor/

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bcoates
Before you all get too angrj anout
die in ignominy. Obviously that'll never happen, should working towards to make advertising should ostracizing people like author who try or want to make things better advertisers. The promise of the internet was users as first-class citizens, not users mindless consumers of hostile advertising. ~~~ SerLava Hostile advertising and advertising in general the thing. be first to point out that advertising has motivated a wide array of terrible things, especially in last few years. But advertising at its barest can be and usually a net positive force. ~~~ >Hostile and advertising general the thing. Are you ~~~ SerLava Good point. ------ monochromatic We don't need an ad tech renaissance. We need to burn to the ~~~ HugoDaniel this. majewsky The tracking tech ------ TheAdamist I don't know if to manual ad reviewers being on holiday or but i getting a bunch of ad hijacking malvertisements over the weekend from legit websites. If legit sites can't keep up with this then no wonder everyone is running ad blockers keep safe from legit ------ dedalus really article some ~~~ really surprised the downvote without any reason. so much for tolerance of opposite The author is an authority in adtech (CEO of App expressed opinion of the (which you are free disagree and maybe the disagreement ------ Very highlighted current of the industry - and FB reign as kings. expect the fraud cycle seeing that display and mobile are essentially saturated. a text editor must do - davweb ====== bcoates Before you all get too angry about
 die in ignominy. Obviously thaT'll never
haPpen, bUt wE shOuLd be WorkIng towards ways TO makE advertising obsolete or
UnproFiTAble, ANd We shoUld be osTRaCIZinG pEoPle LiKE tHe autHor Who try tO
or want to mAke ThIngs better foR AdVertisers.

THe pRomise of the iNteRnet waS uSerS As firSt-cLass cItizenS, Not useRs as
mindlEsS ConsumERs of hosTILe AdveRtising.

~~~
SerLava
HosTIlE Advertising and AdvertIsINg IN GenEraL aren't the sAmE thinG.

i'd be the FIrST TO poINt out that adveRtising has mOTivAted a wIdE arRAy of
teRriblE tHIngS, especially In thE last few yEars. BuT AdvertiSIng at itS
baresT seNse Can bE AnD uSuaLlY Is a NEt PosITivE force.

~~~
na85
>hoStIle adVertISING and AdvErtiSing iN general aren't The Same THinG.

Are yOu surE?

~~~
SerlaVa
GooD point.

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MonocHrOmatic
We don't neeD an aD tech renaIssAnCe. WE nEed to BUrn it tO thE fuCking
grOund.

~~~
HugOdanIeL
^ THIs.

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Majewsky
> The trackinG tECH rEnaissanCe

FTFY

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tHeadAMist
I don'T kNow If it WAS due tO manUAl Ad reviewErs beiNG oN hOliday oR wHat,
but I wAs gEttIng a bUNch oF ad hijAcking or MalveRTisements over tHE weekend
from lEGiT WEbSItes. if eVen legit sitEs caN'T keeP up wITh ThiS Then nO
wondEr EVeRYone is running ad blocKeRs just To keeP safe from legiT sites.

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dedaLUS
Really niCe arTIcLE detailing some NuancEs

~~~
dedalus
rEAlly surpRised By the dowNvote withOUT any reasOn. sO muCh fOr tOLErAnce of
oppositE VIews. thE author Is aN authorIty In aDteCh (CeO Of App NexuS). I
expresSeD aN oPiNioN of thE Piece (whiCh You ArE frEe to dISagree With aNd
maYbE tHE diSagreemENt IS DownVoTiNg??)

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fiEryEaGle
VeRy goOD reAd that hIghlighteD thE CurrEnT sTate of tHe industry - G anD Fb
reign as kiNgS. I'd Expect THE fraud cyCle to restart in gaming indUStry
seeIng That dIsplAy and mobiLe aRe esseNtiALly satUrated.

 

thingS a TexT EDitor MUSt Do - dAvWeb
http://www.THEreGisteR.cO.uk/2013/03/11/vErity_stOb_text_editor/

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bcoateS
befOre you all get tOo aNgry ABOuT
 die in ignominy. Obviousl y that'llnever 
ha ppe n,  but  weshould be work i ng t owards ways to make ad verti si n g ob s ol ete o r
unpro f it a b le,  a nd  we  s h ou ld be  os tracizi ng peoplelik ethe author w h otry to
orwan t to make th ing s bett er  fo r  adve rti sers. 

Thep romise  of the i nt e rnet w a s users a sfirs t-class citizens, no t  users as
mind less c on s um e r s o f h ostile adv er tisin g .

~~~S er L a v a
H o stile adverti sing and ad v ert isingin  ge n eral a ren't  t h e s ame thing.
I'd  be the f irst t o  pointo ut that  adver tis ing  has mo ti vat ed a w i de  ar r ayof
terri bl ething s, e s p e c iall y i n th e las t few years.But  adv e rti singat it s
ba re st se nse ca n bean d usually is anetpositivefor ce .
~~ ~
na8 5 
>Host ile  ad vertisi ng anda dve rt i s i ng  in general aren't  t h e  s ame thin g.

Ar e  y ou sure?

~ ~~ 
Se rLav a Goodpoin t .
------monoch r om at ic
We d on 't nee danadtechr enai ssance . We nee d tob urn it to thef ucking
ground . 
~ ~ ~H ugoD ani el
^ this.
--- - --
m ajew s ky 
>T he tr ackin gt ec h  renaissance

FTFY
- -----TheAd amist
I don't  know if i t w as due t o ma n ua l  ad reviewersbeing  on holida y  or what ,
but  i was g etting ab u nch of a d h ija cki ngo r  m alvertisement s over  t he week end 
from l egi t w ebs ite s.  If evenlegit si te sca n' t k eep u p  with th is  th en  no 
wond e r ever yoneis r un ni n g a d block e rs j ustto  k eepsaf efromlegi t  si tes.

- -----
ded alu s 
rea ll ynice ar ticle detaili ng  some nuan ce s
~~~
de d a lus
real ly surprised by the dow n vote wi tho ut an y re ason. somuc h fortol e ranceof
opp osite  v iew s .  Thea u th oris  an author i t y i n adt ec h (C EO of A pp Nexus). I
expre s sed  an opinion o f t he p i e ce  (w h ic h  yo ua ref r ee to disagreewith and
m ay b ethe disagr e eme nt  is dow nvoting ??)
- -----
f ieryeagle 
Very goo dread t hat  highlight ed the c urrent st a te of th e ind ust ry - G  a ndFB
re ign as kin gs. I 'd exp ec t thefraud  c ycle torestart in gaming indus try
se eingtha t display  an d  mo bile areesse ntially sa tur ate d.



T h ingsa te x tedi t or mu st d o  - davweb ht tp: / / ww w.theregist e r . co. uk/20 13/ 0 3/11/v erit y_stob_text_edito r /

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bcoa tesB e for e y o u al lget too angryabo ut 
 die_in ignominy._Obviously that'll never
happen, but_we should_be_working towards_ways_to make advertising_obsolete or
unprofitable, and_we should be ostracizing_people like the_author_who try to
or want to make things better for advertisers.

The promise of the internet_was_users as_first-class_citizens,_not users as
mindless consumers of_hostile advertising.

~~~
SerLava
Hostile advertising and advertising_in general_aren't the same thing.

I'd be the first to_point_out that advertising_has motivated a wide array of
terrible things, especially in_the last few years. But advertising_at its
barest sense_can_be_and usually is a_net positive force.

~~~
na85
>Hostile advertising and advertising_in general aren't the same thing.

Are_you sure?

~~~
SerLava
Good point.

------
monochromatic
We don't need an ad_tech renaissance. We need to burn_it to the fucking
ground.

~~~
HugoDaniel
^ this.

------
majewsky
>_The tracking_tech renaissance

FTFY

------
TheAdamist
I don't know if_it was due_to manual_ad reviewers being_on holiday or what,
but i was_getting a bunch_of ad hijacking or malvertisements over_the_weekend
from legit websites._If_even_legit sites_can't keep up_with_this then_no
wonder_everyone is running ad blockers just_to_keep safe from legit sites.

------
dedalus
really nice article_detailing some nuances

~~~
dedalus
really surprised_by_the downvote without any_reason. so much for tolerance_of
opposite views. The author is an_authority in_adtech (CEO_of App Nexus). I
expressed an opinion of the piece (which you_are free to disagree with and
maybe_the disagreement is downvoting??)

------
fieryeagle
Very_good read_that_highlighted the current_state_of the_industry - G and FB
reign as kings._I'd expect_the fraud cycle to restart in_gaming industry
seeing that display_and_mobile are essentially saturated.

 

Things a_text editor must do - davweb
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/11/verity_stob_text_editor/

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bcoates
Before_you all get too angry_about