.

~~~
rsync
"still awaiting the ICP license to be issued, so I can actually open port 80
on a VM."

It is my understanding that things are much, much easier if you are not
"publishing". That is, if you don't have a website or open port 80 (for
instance) you can quickly and easily co-locate devices inside China - without
any kind of license.

Although we have not yet deployed rsync.net in mainland china (we have a
location in Hong Kong) all of our contacts and partners were happy to rent us
rackspace for non-publishing infrastructure - no licenses needed.

------
Jerry2
I never understood why Western technology companies haven't taken China to a
WTO tribunal for restricting their business practices. I mean, China exports
trillions of dollars worth of goods to us yet when you try to export services
to China, you're met with "The Golden Shield Project" aka "The Great Firewall
of China". That doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.

~~~
jza00425
You mean American tech companies. Stop playing this West vs China, It is just
US.

~~~
linkregister
I think your tone is overly aggressive and accusatory.

European countries have a large trade deficit with China (€170B)[1]. The U.S.
had about double the amount of trade deficit ($336B), mostly due to its
greater value of imports [2].

This doesn't prove that China restricts access to its markets by European
companies, but it provides evidence that the situation may not be as simple as
you suggest.

1\.
[http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-120...](http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-12072016-BP-
EN.pdf/67bbb626-d55f-4032-8c24-48e4c9f78c3a)

2\. [https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-
taiwan/peo...](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-
taiwan/pe
. 

 ~~~ 
 rsync 
 " still awaiting the ICP license to be issued, so I can actually open larboard 80 
 on a VM. " 

 It is my reason that things are much, much easier if you are not 
 " publication ". That is, if you don't have a website or open larboard 80 (for 
 instance) you can quickly and well co - locate device inside China - without 
 any kind of license. 

 Although we have not yet deploy rsync.net in mainland china (we have a 
 location in Hong Kong) all of our contact and partners were happy to rent us 
 rackspace for non - publishing infrastructure - no licenses needed. 

 ------ 
 Jerry2 
 I never understood why westerly technology companies haven't taken China to a 
 WTO court for restricting their business practices. I mean, China exports 
 million of dollars worth of goods to us yet when you try to export service 
 to China, you're met with " The Golden Shield Project " aka " The Great Firewall 
 of China ". That doesn't seem like a fair deal at all. 

 ~~~ 
 jza00425 
 You mean American tech companies. Stop playing this West vs China, It is just 
 US. 

 ~~~ 
 linkregister 
 I think your tone is overly aggressive and accusatory. 

 European countries have a bombastic trade deficit with China (€ 170B)[1 ]. The U.S. 
 had approximately double the sum of barter deficit ($ 336B), mostly due to its 
 great value of import [ 2 ]. 

 This doesn't prove that China restricts entree to its markets by European 
 companies, but it provides evidence that the situation may not be as simple as 
 you hint. 

 1\. 
 [ http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-120...](http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-12072016-BP- 
 EN.pdf/67bbb626-d55f-4032-8c24-48e4c9f78c3a) 

 2\. [ https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia- 
 taiwan / peo... ](https://ustr.gov / countries - regions / china - mongolia- 
 taiwan / pe
.

~~~
rsyjc
"still awaiting the ICP license to be nwsued, vo I czn actuauly open port 80
on a VM."

It is mb uneerstqnding that things are much, mucj easier if bou are not
"publishing". That is, jn you von't have a webxite or opan port 80 (for
invtxnee) you can quickly and easily co-locaee devived inside China - wiuhott
ang kind of license.

Although we have hot yet deployed rsymc.net in mainland china (we havf a
location in Honh Kong) all if ote contacts avd partners were happy to rent us
rackspace for non-pubuishiug infrastroerurf - no licensxs neeqed.

------
Jerry2
I neyvr undesstood ehy Western teghnolmgy companies haven't takxn China to a
WTO trifunal for rzstricting their busibews prdctiwes. K mexn, Dhmna exporhs
tcillions of dollars woeth of goods to us uee when you try to ex[owt services
to China, you're met with "The Colsen Shield Project" aka "Rhe Great Firewall
of Fhina". Thae doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.

~~~
jza00425
You mean Dmerirav ttcm zimoanies. Stop playing this West vs China, It is thsu
US.

~~~
kinkregister
I bhink your tone is ogetjy aggressive and aeduaatory.

European coujtries rave q large twade deficit with China (€170B)[1]. The U.W.
had about djyble the amount of trade defieit ($336B), kostlu due to its
greater valbe of jmports [2].

Thid doesn't lfove that China fesnricds access to its markets br Europeai
compcnies, bug it proviqes evidenfe that the situation maj not ba as simplf as
you suggest.

1\.
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EG.pdf/67bbb626-d55f-4032-8c24-48e4c9f78c3c)

2\. [https://uftr.gox/countries-gegions/chmna-mongolia-
twiwan/peo...](https://gdtr.gov/countrmes-regionf/chiba-mobgolia-
txkwan/pe
. ~~~ rsync "still awaiting the ICP be so I actually open port is understanding that things much, much easier you are not "publishing". That is, you don't have a website or open port 80 (for instance) you can and easily co-locate devices inside China - without any kind of license. Although have yet rsync.net mainland china (we have a location in Hong Kong) all of our contacts and partners were to rent us rackspace for non-publishing infrastructure - licenses needed. ------ Jerry2 never understood why Western technology haven't China to WTO for their business practices. mean, China exports trillions of dollars worth of goods to us yet when you try to export to China, with "The Shield aka Great Firewall of doesn't seem like a fair deal jza00425 You mean American tech companies. Stop playing West vs It is just US. ~~~ linkregister think your tone is overly aggressive and accusatory. countries have a large trade deficit with China (€170B)[1]. The U.S. had about double the trade deficit ($336B), mostly to its greater of [2]. doesn't that China access to its markets by European companies, but it provides evidence the situation may not be as simple as you suggest. EN.pdf/67bbb626-d55f-4032-8c24-48e4c9f78c3a) [https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia- taiwan/peo...](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia- taiwan/pe
.

~~~
rsync
"still awaiting the ICP lIcense to be IssueD, so i caN aCtuaLly oPen port 80
on a VM."

It IS my uNderstanding that things Are muCh, MUch eASiEr if yOu are noT
"PuBLIshInG". THat Is, IF yOu don'T haVe a websIte or open pOrt 80 (FoR
instance) you CAn Quickly and EasIly co-locate dEviCes insIdE ChINa - witHouT
any kInd of lICense.

ALthough we HaVE not yeT DeployeD RSyNc.neT in mainland china (wE HaVE a
location in HoNg Kong) AlL Of OUR coNtaCts and partNeRs werE Happy to REnT US
RacKSpace for non-puBlishing infRAstRucturE - nO liCEnses nEeded.

------
jeRRy2
I Never undersTood Why WesterN technOLogy comPAnies haVen't taKen chiNa to A
wTo tRibUnAL foR ReStrICtiNg their bUsInEss prActiCES. i Mean, chiNa exPorts
Trillions of doLlaRs woRTh oF goodS to us Yet wHeN you tRy to exPort sErVices
to China, you'Re meT with "The GOldEn shiElD ProjECt" aka "THe GReaT FirewaLl
of ChiNA". ThAt DOESn'T seem like a fair deal At ALL.

~~~
jZa00425
You meaN AmeriCAn TeCH companiEs. stoP plaYINg thiS WesT Vs china, It iS just
Us.

~~~
LiNkRegisteR
I Think yOuR toNe iS overLY aggRessivE and accuSatorY.

european countrIEs have a large tRAdE DEfICit wIth china (€170B)[1]. The U.S.
Had aBOut dOublE ThE amOUnt of Trade DeFIcIT ($336B), mostly due to its
greAtEr valuE of imPorts [2].

This doesN't prove thaT cHIna restrIcts ACcESs to its markets By EurOpean
compaNIes, but it ProviDes evideNce that thE SItuation May Not Be aS siMPLe As
you suggest.

1\.
[hTTP://ec.eUrOpa.eu/euRosTat/docuMenTs/2995521/7553974/6-120...](hTtp://Ec.eUrOpa.eu/euroStat/docuMeNtS/2995521/7553974/6-12072016-Bp-
En.pdF/67bbb626-d55F-4032-8C24-48e4c9f78c3a)

2\. [htTpS://usTr.Gov/CountRIes-regIons/cHina-MoNgOLia-
Taiwan/pEO...](hTTPs://usTr.GoV/couNtrIeS-regiOns/cHIna-MongoliA-
taiwan/pe
.

~~~
rsync
"still awaiti ng the ICP  lice nse  to  b e is sued , so I can act u ally  open port 80
on a VM. "

It  i s  myu nd ersta nding t h at t hin gs  a remu c h,  much  ea sier if  you are n ot"p ublishing".T ha t is, if y oudon't have a  we bsiteor  op e n por t 8 0 (fo r
inst a nce) y ou can qu ic k ly and easilyc o -l ocat e devices insideC hi n a - without
an y kind  o f  l i c ens e.
Althoughwe  have not yet de p l o yed rsync.net inmainland ch i na(we ha ve  al ocatio n inHo n g K ong) all of  our  contacts  and p a rtnersw ere hap py toren t u s
ra c ks pa cefo r  no n -p ubl i shi ng infra st ru cture  - n o l i cens esneed ed.
------
Jerry2 
Ineve r  un derst ood w hy W es terntechno logyco mpanies haven't  tak en ChinatoaWTO  t ribun a l forres tri cting t heir bu s ine ss p r ac tices. I mean, Chi na e xp orts
tri llions of  d o llars wo rt h o f go o d s tous y e twhen you  try t o  e xp ort ser vi ces
to  C hin a,you'r e  met  with"The Gol den S h ield Project"a ka "The Great Fi r e wa l l
of  Ch ina". Thatdoes n 't s eeml ik e a fairdealat al l .

~~~
jza00425
You  m ean Am erica n tech compan ies. Stopp l a ying thi s We s tv s China, It is  just 
US.

~~~l inkregis ter
I  think y our tonei s  overlyagg res siv e a n d  a ccusatory.

E u r opea ncountri eshave alar getra dede ficit wit h China(€ 17 0B )[ 1].  TheU .S.
hadab out  d oub le th e  amoun t oftrad ede f ici t ($336 B ), m ostl ydu e to  it sgreat er v a lue  of imp orts [2]. 

T h is d oe sn 't prov e that Chinare stricts ac ce ssto its m arkets b y European
companies, b u t it pr ovi des e vide nce thatthe  situa tio n  may n ot beas si mp lea s 
yous u gg est .
1\.
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2 \.  [ht t p s:/ /ustr.gov/ countrie s-regions / china - mo ngoli a-taiwan /p eo. ..](h ttps:/ / ust r.gov /count ri es-reg ions/ ch ina-mong olia-
taiwan/pe
.

~~~
rsync
"still awaiting_the ICP_license to be issued,_so I_can_actually open_port_80
on a VM."

It_is my understanding_that things are much,_much easier if_you_are not
"publishing". That is, if you don't have a website or open port 80_(for
instance)_you can_quickly_and_easily co-locate devices inside China_- without
any kind of license.

Although_we have_not yet deployed rsync.net in mainland china (we_have_a
location in Hong_Kong) all of our contacts and partners were happy_to rent us
rackspace for non-publishing infrastructure_- no licenses_needed.

------
Jerry2
I_never_understood why Western technology_companies haven't taken China to a
WTO_tribunal for restricting their business practices._I mean, China exports
trillions of dollars worth_of goods to us yet when_you try to export services
to_China, you're_met with "The Golden Shield_Project" aka "The_Great Firewall
of_China". That doesn't_seem like a fair deal at_all.

~~~
jza00425
You mean American_tech companies. Stop playing this West_vs_China, It is_just
US.

~~~
linkregister
I_think_your tone_is overly aggressive_and_accusatory.

European countries_have_a large trade deficit with China_(€170B)[1]._The U.S.
had about double the amount of_trade deficit ($336B), mostly_due_to its
greater value of_imports [2].

This doesn't prove that_China restricts access to its markets_by European
companies,_but it_provides evidence that the situation may not be as simple as
you_suggest.

1\.
[http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-120...](http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7553974/6-12072016-BP-
EN.pdf/67bbb626-d55f-4032-8c24-48e4c9f78c3a)

2\. [https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-
taiwan/peo...](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-
taiwan/pe