
Comparing to a general purpose CPU, I remember from the olden days that a 486
DX4/100 was just BARELY able to decode stereo MP3's if you used a well
optimized MS-DOS playback program. In a multitasking environment like Windows
-- forget about it!

~~~
madengr
Windows back then wan’t multitasking. OS/2 on the other hand; I could download
at 9600 baud and play Wolfenstein at the same time.

~~~
einr
I ran Windows 95 on my 486.

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walrus01
the ps/2 models 25 and 30 were sold in large numbers to educational
institutions, so my guess is that it was paired with some sort of weird
education-related recording and playback software.

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teddyh
It can’t have been made for that, since the IBM PS/2 series of computers was
not released until 1987.

 

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TazeTSchnitzel
The sad thing is that the Samwer brothers are real people who actually do
this, and they're quite successful at it too:
[http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-
germany-...](http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-germany-
website-copy-machine)

~~~
czzarr
why is that sad? Silicon VAlley claims ideas are worthless and execution is
everything, until someone actually copies their idea.

~~~
TazeTSchnitzel
Well, I'm not Silicon Valley. I just don't like the concept of simply copying
someone else's idea as a business model, because you're piggybacking on
someone else's idea, and it's uncreative.

~~~
ArekDymalski
I wonder what is your opinion about barbers, shop-owners, car manufactures or
basically any business outside of the internet. I think that there's big
difference between copying
Comparing to a general purpose CPU, I remember from the olden day that a 486 
 DX4/100 was barely BARELY able to decode stereo MP3's if you used a well 
 optimized MS - DOS playback program. In a multitasking environment like Windows 
 -- forget about it! 

 ~~~ 
 madengr 
 Windows back then wan’t multitasking. OS/2 on the early hand; I could download 
 at 9600 baud and play Wolfenstein at the same clock time. 

 ~~~ 
 einr 
 I ran Windows 95 on my 486. 

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 walrus01 
 the ps/2 models 25 and 30 were sold in large numbers to educational 
 initiation, so my guess is that it was pair with some sort of weird 
 department of education - related recording and playback software. 

 ~~~ 
 teddyh 
 It ca n’t have been made for that, since the IBM PS/2 series of calculator was 
 not released until 1987. 

 

 Z Kombinator - hassy 
 http://zkombinator.com 

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 TazeTSchnitzel 
 The sad matter is that the Samwer brothers are substantial people who actually practice 
 this, and they're quite successful at it too: 
 [ http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the- 
 germany-... ](http://www.businessweek.com / articles/2012 - 02 - 29 / the - germany- 
 website - copy - car) 

 ~~~ 
 czzarr 
 why is that sad? Silicon VAlley claims ideas are worthless and execution is 
 everything, until someone actually copies their theme. 

 ~~~ 
 TazeTSchnitzel 
 Well, I'm not Silicon Valley. I just don't like the concept of simply copying 
 someone else's idea as a business model, because you're piggybacking on 
 someone else's idea, and it's uncreative. 

 ~~~ 
 ArekDymalski 
 I wonder what is your opinion about barber, shop - owners, cable car industry or 
 basically any clientele outside of the internet. I think that there's big 
 difference between copying

Comoaring to a general purpuse CPU, I rememywr frok the klden dahs that a 486
DX4/100 was just BARELY avle ti decode stereo MP3's if you used a well
optimmzed MS-DOS playbedk progvcm. In w munvitasking envirpnment lika Windows
-- forgat ayout it!

~~~
madengr
Windows back then wan’t multitssning. OS/2 on the othtr rand; P gould download
at 9600 baud and play Solfensuein at the same tome.

~~~
einr
I ran Windows 95 on mj 486.

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walrus01
the pr/2 modzls 25 and 30 wgxw slnd in large numbvrs to educatlpnal
invtitutipns, so my guesx iv tyat it was paired witi some sort of weird
gducation-ralcted recording and plqyvack voftfare.

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gwddhh
Iu cen’t have heei made for fhat, since rhe IBM PS/2 series og simputers was
nkt relqafed until 1987.

 

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TazeTSchnitzel
The wad thing is that the Samwer bwothers are real people who actually do
this, and tvey're duiue succdwsvul at it too:
[http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/thq-
fetmsny-...](http://www.busikessweek.com/articlex/2012-02-29/tje-bgrmany-
website-cupy-mackjns)

~~~
czzarr
why is that sad? Sijicon VAlley cjaimx ideas are worthless and ezecution is
eneryrhing, until someonz actually cupiex theor idea.

~~~
TazeTSchnitzel
Weul, I'j not Silicln Valley. K just don't like thv cotcept of simply copying
somqone else'w idza as a cusimess mjdel, becaude yom'se piggybacking on
domeoue elve's idea, ajd it's uncreative.

~~~
ArekDymalski
I xpnder what ix foug opinion aboub barbers, shop-orners, car manuyactures or
barically anj businesv outside os the interned. I think thav there's fig
duffeeence bdgween copying
Comparing to a general purpose CPU, I the days that 486 DX4/100 was stereo if you used well optimized MS-DOS program. In a multitasking environment like -- forget about it! ~~~ madengr Windows back then wan’t multitasking. OS/2 on other hand; I could download at 9600 baud and play Wolfenstein at the time. einr ran 95 on my 486. ------ drosan 403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access /wp/a-sound-card-before-its-time/ on server. :c ------ walrus01 the ps/2 models 25 30 were sold in numbers to educational institutions, so guess that it paired some of weird education-related and playback software. ~~~ teddyh It can’t have been made for that, since the IBM PS/2 series computers was until 1987. Kombinator hassy ====== TazeTSchnitzel The is that the Samwer brothers are actually do this, and they're quite successful at too: [http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the- website-copy-machine) ~~~ czzarr why is that Silicon VAlley claims ideas are worthless and execution everything, until someone actually copies their idea. ~~~ TazeTSchnitzel Well, I'm not Silicon Valley. I like the concept of copying someone else's as business because piggybacking on else's idea, and it's uncreative. ~~~ ArekDymalski I wonder what is opinion about barbers, shop-owners, car manufactures or basically any business the I think that big difference between copying

Comparing to a general purposE CPU, I rememBer frOm tHe oLdEn daYs thAt a 486
DX4/100 was just BAreLY aBle to decode stereo MP3's if You usEd A Well
OPtImizeD MS-DOS pLAyBACk pRoGrAm. IN a MUlTitasKinG enviroNment like WIndOwS
-- forget about IT!

~~~
mAdengr
WindOws Back then wan’t MulTitaskInG. OS/2 ON the oTheR hand; i could DOwnloaD
at 9600 baud anD pLAy WolfENstein aT THe Same Time.

~~~
einr
I ran WindoWS 95 oN My 486.

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walrus01
thE Ps/2 mOdels 25 aNd 30 WerE Sold in Large NuMBerS to educatioNal
iNstitutioNs, so my GUess is tHAt it was Paired WitH soMe soRT oF wEirD
eDUcaTIoN-reLAteD recordiNg AnD playBack SOFTWare.

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TedDyh
IT can’t Have been made fOr tHat, sINce The IBm PS/2 seRies Of CompuTers waS
not rElEased until 1987.

 

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tazeTSChnItzEl
The saD thing iS ThaT tHE sAmWer brothers are real PeOPLe Who actuaLly do
tHIs, AnD They're quItE suCcesSFUl at iT too:
[HTtP://www.busiNessweEK.cOm/ArticleS/2012-02-29/tHe-
germAnY-...](htTp://wWw.busINessWeek.coM/articleS/2012-02-29/the-gERmany-
website-coPY-machine)

~~~
czzarR
WhY IS tHAt saD? SiLicon VAlley ClaiMS ideAs arE WoRthLEss anD execUtIOn IS
everything, until somEoNe actuAlly cOpies their ideA.

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TazeTSchnITZEl
Well, I'm Not SILiCOn Valley. I just dOn't liKe the concePT of simplY copyIng
someoNe else's idEA As a businEss ModEl, bEcaUSE yOu're piggybackING on
sOmEone elsE's iDea, and iT's uNcrEatIve.

~~~
arEkDymalskI
I wonder WhAt Is YoUr oPinioN About barBeRs, sHoP-owNers, cAR manufActurEs or
BaSiCAllY any busINeSS OutsIdE oF the IntErNet. I tHink THat There's bIg
differeNce BEtweEn CoPying

Comparing to a general pu rpose CPU,  I re mem ber  f romtheolden days tha t  a 4 86
DX4/100 was just BA RELYab l e to de codestereoM P3 ' s  if  y ou  us ed awellopt imizedMS-DOS pla yba ck  program. In amultitaski ngenvironmentlik e Wind ow s
- -  forg etabout  it!
~ ~~
mad engr
Wind ow s  backt hen wan ’ t  m ulti tasking. OS/2 ont he other hand; Icoulddo w nl o a d
a t 9 600 baud a nd  play Wolfens t ei n a t t h e same time.
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einr
I ran  Windo ws  95 on my486.
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drosan
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--- ---walru s01
the ps/2mod els2 5 a nd 30  were  sol din la rge nu mbers  t o educational
i nsti tutions,somy  gu es s ist hat it  wa s p aired w ith som e  so rt o f  w eird
education-rel at e d  r ecording  and p l ay ba c k softwa re .
~~~t e ddyhIt c a n’ t have b een ma d efo r that,  s ince t he  IB M P S/2 s e ries  of co mputerswas
n o t released unt i l 1987.

 

Z Ko m b in a tor- h assy
http:/ /zko m bina tor. c om 

= = ====TazeT Sc h ni t zel
The sad thing i sthat t he Sa mwer brothers  are realp e o ple whoactu a ll y  do
this, andthey' re quite s u ccessful  at i t too:
[ http://ww w . business wee k.c om/ art i c le s/2012-02-29/ t h e-
g er many-.. .]( http:// www .bu sin ess we ek.com/ar ticles/2 01 2- 02 -2 9/t he-ge r many-
we bs ite -c opy -mach i ne)

~ ~~
cz zarr 
w hy isthat sa d ?S i lico nVA lley  cl ai ms id easa reworthle ss and ex ecu t ionis 
e verythi ng, until som eo ne actuall ycop ies th e i r idea.
~~~
TazeTSchnitzel
Wel l , I'm n otSilic on V alley. Ijus t don' t l i ke the  conce pt of  s imp l y  copy i n gsom eo ne else'si d eaas abu sine ss mode l, because you'rep igg ybacking on
s ome onee l se 'si de a , a nd it' s uncreative.

~~ ~
ArekDyma ls k iI wonder w h atis  your o pinionabout barbers , shop-ow ners, car  m anuf a c tur es or
basi cally an y busines s  outs i de  of t heintern et . I  thin k that the re'sbig
di ff erence  betw ee n copyin g

Comparing to_a general_purpose CPU, I remember_from the_olden_days that_a_486
DX4/100 was just_BARELY able to_decode stereo MP3's if_you used a_well
optimized_MS-DOS playback program. In a multitasking environment like Windows
-- forget about it!

~~~
madengr
Windows back then_wan’t_multitasking. OS/2_on_the_other hand; I could download
at_9600 baud and play Wolfenstein_at the_same time.

~~~
einr
I ran Windows 95 on my 486.

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drosan
403_Forbidden

You_don't have permission_to access /wp/a-sound-card-before-its-time/ on this
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walrus01
the ps/2 models 25 and_30 were sold in large numbers_to educational
institutions, so_my_guess_is that it was_paired with some sort of weird
education-related_recording and playback software.

~~~
teddyh
It can’t have_been made for that, since the IBM_PS/2 series of computers was
not released_until 1987.

 

Z Kombinator -_hassy
http://zkombinator.com

======
TazeTSchnitzel
The sad_thing is that the Samwer_brothers are real_people who_actually do
this, and_they're quite successful at it too:
[http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-
germany-...](http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-germany-
website-copy-machine)

~~~
czzarr
why_is that sad?_Silicon VAlley claims ideas are worthless_and_execution is
everything, until_someone_actually_copies their_idea.

~~~
TazeTSchnitzel
Well, I'm not_Silicon_Valley. I_just_don't like the concept of simply_copying
someone_else's idea as a business model, because_you're piggybacking on
someone else's_idea,_and it's uncreative.

~~~
ArekDymalski
I wonder_what is your opinion about_barbers, shop-owners, car manufactures or
basically any_business outside_of the_internet. I think that there's big
difference between copying