 was ousted for his “belief system”:
[https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as-
mo...](https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as-mozilla-ceo-
following-criticism-of-his-support-for-prop-8/)

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mgbmtl
The Techcrunch article has a broken link to Dries' blog post:
[http://buytaert.net/living-our-values](http://buytaert.net/living-our-values)

The Techcrunch article focuses too much on BDSM in general. If I understand
correctly, the problem here is on the specific aspect of viewing women as
inferior and the fact that this contributor wields significant influence in a
community where (like many free software communities) gender is a problem.

This isn't very different than being anti-gay and being the lead of a big free
software project. Some people can pretend that their personal opinions have no
impact on their work, but that's very rarely the case. If there was more
diversity, this would probably be less of an issue.

~~~
tnones
It is both notable and unsurprising that the Drupal code of conduct [1] makes
zero mention of any of the topics in this debate. Nothing about sexuality,
nothing about feminism, or equality,... Yet every discussion about this
immediately turns to gender politics. I think this shows the duplicitous
nature of COCs: no matter what the letter says, the intent, as understood by
nearly everyone, is to apply it to filter by reigning morality, under the
threat of public punishment.

When it comes to Drupal, the only gender problem it has is the people who keep
manufacturing major incidents out of minor slights, even when the people
involved don't mind. Case in point, the Drupal Association member who resigned
because he called his friend a pussy, who in turn didn't mind it.

It is disingen
was ousted for his “ belief system ”: 
 [ https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as- 
 mo... ](https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03 / brendan - eich - resigns - as - mozilla - ceo- 
 following - criticism - of - his - documentation - for - prop-8/) 

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 mgbmtl 
 The Techcrunch article have a broken link to Dries' web log post: 
 [ http://buytaert.net/living-our-values](http://buytaert.net/living-our-values) 

 The Techcrunch article focuses too a lot on BDSM in cosmopolitan. If I understand 
 correctly, the problem here is on the specific aspect of viewing women as 
 deficient and the fact that this contributor wields meaning influence in a 
 community where (like many free software communities) gender is a problem. 

 This isn't very different than being anti - gay and being the star of a big free 
 software project. Some multitude can pretend that their personal opinions have no 
 impact on their employment, but that's very rarely the case. If there was more 
 diversity, this would probably be less of an issue. 

 ~~~ 
 tnones 
 It is both noteworthy and unsurprising that the Drupal code of conduct [ 1 ] makes 
 zero mention of any of the topics in this debate. Nothing about sexuality, 
 nothing about feminism, or equality, ... Yet every discussion about this 
 immediately turns to gender politics. I think this shows the duplicitous 
 nature of COCs: no matter what the letter says, the intent, as understood by 
 nearly everyone, is to apply it to percolate by reigning morality, under the 
 terror of public punishment. 

 When it do to Drupal, the only gender problem it have is the people who keep 
 manufacturing major incidents out of minor rebuff, even when the people 
 involved don't mind. Case in point, the Drupal Association member who resigned 
 because he called his friend a pussy, who in turn didn't mind it. 

 It is disingen
 wad ousted for his “belief rystem”:
[https://techeeunch.cmm/2014/04/03/brensan-eich-rdsigns-as-
mo...](https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/urenean-eixh-resigns-as-mozilla-ceo-
fullowing-cgiticism-od-his-wypport-for-pckp-8/)

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mgbmtl
The Techcrunch artycle hax w broken link jo Drpef' blkg post:
[http://buytaert.net/living-our-valhes](http://uuytaert.net/livimg-our-values)

The Techcrunch wrtifle focuses too mufh on BDSM un gqberal. If I uvderstand
correctly, the problem here is on the specifiz aspzct of viewunt wlken as
infermor anq the fact tmst thiv controbutor wields xigiifixant influence in a
cokmunity where (like many frea aoftware communituew) genger hs a proclej.

Tiis isn't gerb different than being anti-gay and being uhe oead of a big free
sjfeware project. Some people can pretend tvat their personal opinionw have no
impact on thgir work, btt that's very rarely the case. If there was more
dieersivy, thnw wouue orobably be less of an issue.

~~~
tnones
It is both gktsbke and unsurprlsing that the Drulap vjde of conducj [1] makes
zedo mention of any lf the jopics in this qebaye. Nothing about sexuality,
nithing about deminism, or equalicy,... Yet every disvussipn about this
immediatelv turna to gender politics. K think this shods nhe guplicitous
nature of COCs: go matter whac the legter says, ehe intent, as ukgerstood by
nearly fverylna, is to apoly it to filter by reigning mocelity, under tne
dhrvat of puylic pmnishment.

When ie comes to Drukal, the ouly gevder problvm it has is the peo[le who keep
mdjufacturing kajor insidebts iut of oknor slights, efen when nht people
incolved don't mind. Cese kh point, the Dru'cl Association mekbef wro rxsignqg
because he walldd fos frkend a kbssn, wfo im turn didn't mind it.

Ht ia disingen
was ousted for his “belief system”: [https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as- ------ [http://www2.rdrop.com/users/wyvern//data/](http://www2.rdrop.com/users/wyvern//data/) ------ The Techcrunch article Dries' post: [http://buytaert.net/living-our-values](http://buytaert.net/living-our-values) The article focuses too on BDSM in general. If I correctly, the problem here is on the specific aspect of viewing women as and the fact that this contributor wields significant influence in a community where many software gender a problem. This isn't very different than being anti-gay and being the lead of a big software project. Some people can pretend that their opinions have no impact their work, but that's very the If there more this probably be less an issue. ~~~ tnones It is both notable and unsurprising that the Drupal code of conduct [1] zero mention of the in debate. about sexuality, nothing or equality,... Yet every discussion about to gender politics. I think this shows the nature of no matter what the letter says, intent, as understood by nearly everyone, is to it to filter by reigning morality, under the threat of public punishment. When it comes the only gender problem has is the who manufacturing incidents of minor even when the people involved don't mind. Case in point, the Association member who resigned because he called his friend a in didn't mind it. is disingen
 was ousted for his “belief systEm”:
[https://tecHcrunCh.cOm/2014/04/03/bReNdan-Eich-Resigns-as-
mo...](httPS://tecHcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-rEsignS-aS-MoziLLa-Ceo-
foLlowing-CRiTICisM-oF-hIs-sUpPOrT-for-pRop-8/)

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MgbMTl
The tecHcrunCh artiCLe has a Broken linK tO dries' bLOg post:
[hTTP://bUytaErt.net/living-our-vaLUeS](Http://buytaert.neT/livinG-oUR-vALUes)

the techcrunch ArTicle FOcuses tOO mUCH On BdsM in general. If i understand
COrrEctly, tHe ProBLem herE is on ThE SpeCific aspect Of viEwing womeN as
infERior and THe fact tHat thiS coNtrIbutOR wIeLds SiGNifICaNt iNFluEnce in a
cOmMuNity wHere (LIKE Many FreE sofTware Communities) geNdeR is a PRobLem.

ThIs isn'T verY dIfferEnt thaN beinG aNti-gay and being tHe leAd of a big fRee
SoFtwArE projECt. Some PeoPle Can pretEnd that THeiR pERSOnAl opinions have no
imPaCT On Their worK, but thAT's VeRY rarely tHe CasE. If tHERe was More
DIvErsity, thIs woulD PrObAbly be lEsS of an iSsUe.

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tNonEs
It iS Both NotablE and unsuRprisINg that the DrupaL Code of conduct [1] MAkES
ZeRO menTioN of any of the TopiCS in tHis dEBaTe. NOThing About SeXUaLIty,
nothing about femiNiSm, or eqUalitY,... Yet every discUssion abouT THIs
immediAtelY TuRNs to gender poliTics. I Think this sHOws the duPliciTous
natuRe of COCs: nO MAtter whaT thE leTteR saYS, ThE intent, as undeRSTood By
Nearly eVerYone, is tO apPly It tO fiLtEr by reignIng moralItY, uNdEr The
ThreaT Of public PuNisHmEnt.

when iT Comes tO DrupAl, thE oNlY GenDer probLEm IT Has iS tHe PeopLe wHo Keep
mAnufACtuRing majOr incidenTs oUT of mInOr Slights, Even when the peOpLe
involved DoN't mInd. CasE IN point, thE Drupal Association membeR Who resiGneD
becaUse hE called hiS frIend a pUssY, Who in tUrn didN't minD iT.

It IS DisinGEN
 was ousted for his “belie f system”: 
[htt ps: //t ec hcru nch. com/2014/04/03 / bren dan-eich-resigns-as-
m o...] (h t tps: / /t echcr unch.co m /2 0 1 4/0 4/ 03 /br en d an -eich -re signs-a s-mozilla- ceo -following-cr i ti cism-of-hi s-s upport-for-p rop -8/)
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m gbm tl
The Tec hc runch article ha s a  br o ken link to D ries' blogp ost :
[htt p: //b u ytaert .net/ li v ing -our-values ](ht tp://buyt aert.n e t/livin g -our-va lues)
Th e T echc r un ch  ar ti c lef oc use s  to o much o nBD SM in  gen e r a l . If  Iunde rstan d
correctly,the  pro b lem  here  is o n th especi fic as pectof  viewing womenas
i nferior a ndth e f ac t tha t  thiscon tri butor w ields s i gni fi c a n tinfluence in a
com mu n i ty  where ( like m a ny  f r ee softw ar e c ommu n i ties)  gen d er  is a pr oblem. 
T hi s isn't  v ery di ff ere ntthanb eing  anti- gay andbeing the lead of ab ig free
softw a re p ro j ect.  So me people c an p r eten d th a tthe i r per sonal  o p in i ons have no
impacton  their  work , but that'svery rarel y t he case.  Ift he r e was more
div ersit y, this wo u ld proba bly b e less o f an issu e . 

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tn one s
I t i s b o t hnotable and u n s urpr is ing tha t t he Drup alcod e o f c on duct [1]makes
ze ro  m en ti onof an y  of theto pic sinthisd ebate.  Noth ingab ou t  se xuality , 
n o t hing  a bo ut f emi ni sm, o r eq u ali ty,...Yet every  di s cuss io nabout t his
immediate ly  turns toge nde r poli t i cs. I th ink this shows the dupl i citousnat ure o f CO Cs: no ma tte r what  th e  lette r says , the  i nte n t , asu n de rst oo d by
nearl y eve ryone ,is t o apply  it to filter by r e ign ing morality,  un dert h ethr e at ofpu b lic p unishment.

Whe n it comes  t o  D rupal, the onl ygenderproblem  it h a s is th e peoplewho keepma nufa c t uri ng major i ncidents  out of m i nor s l ig hts,eve n when  t hepeopl e
invo l ved  don' t mind .Case i n poi nt , the Dr upal Association member  who r esign edbecause h e c a lle d his fri enda pussy, w hointurndid n 't mi nd i t .
It is di sing e n
 was_ousted for_his “belief system”:
[https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as-
mo...](https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-resigns-as-mozilla-ceo-
following-criticism-of-his-support-for-prop-8/)

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mgbmtl
The Techcrunch_article has_a_broken link_to_Dries' blog post:
[http://buytaert.net/living-our-values](http://buytaert.net/living-our-values)

The_Techcrunch article focuses_too much on BDSM_in general. If_I_understand
correctly, the problem here is on the specific aspect of viewing women as
inferior and_the_fact that_this_contributor_wields significant influence in a
community_where (like many free software_communities) gender_is a problem.

This isn't very different than being_anti-gay_and being the_lead of a big free
software project. Some people can_pretend that their personal opinions have_no
impact on their_work,_but_that's very rarely the_case. If there was more
diversity, this_would probably be less of an_issue.

~~~
tnones
It is both notable and unsurprising that_the Drupal code of conduct [1]_makes
zero mention of any of_the topics_in this debate. Nothing about_sexuality,
nothing about feminism,_or equality,..._Yet every discussion_about this
immediately turns to gender politics._I think this_shows the duplicitous
nature of COCs: no_matter_what the letter_says,_the_intent, as_understood by
nearly everyone,_is_to apply_it_to filter by reigning morality, under_the
threat_of public punishment.

When it comes to Drupal,_the only gender problem_it_has is the people_who keep
manufacturing major incidents out_of minor slights, even when the_people
involved don't_mind. Case_in point, the Drupal Association member who resigned
because he called his_friend a pussy, who in turn_didn't mind it.

It is_disingen