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beyond the aforementioned embarrassingly parallel problems I don't think we'll
see much performance increase once we reach the point where each app/process
is running on its own core.

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JulianMorrison
On my Linux machine, not even a server but just a desktop, there are 111
running processes. There's room for growth in multi-core yet.

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wmf
Don't you mean there are 111 sleeping processes? It's unlikely that a desktop
would have so many runnable processes.

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JulianMorrison
Ah, my use of "running" was misleading. That's just a crude line count of the
"ps ax" listing. (And I probably counted the header line - d'oh!) Yes, most
are sleeping.

 

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calebreed
Interesting article, thanks for posting! While I agree that there has been
over-extension with regards to infrastructure development especially in
residential housing, one thing I think we should remember is the power the
central government in China holds to change course when necessary, even when a
crisis has not yet occurred (imagine living in a country that can ground all
flights for a day with no explanation and people take that as par the course:
[http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd](http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd)). A similar point on
over-extension could have been made about US expansion in the 2000s being
completely attributed to the debt-induced US housing bubble, but our
government had no focus or institutional power to stop that until the crisis
had already occurred. In this case at the governmental level, China, with its
ability to set long term policy and pre-
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 nazgulnarsil 
 beyond the aforementioned embarrassingly parallel problem I don't think we'll 
 see much operation increase once we reach the point where each app / procedure 
 is running on its own core. 

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 JulianMorrison 
 On my Linux car, not even a server but just a desktop, there are 111 
 track processes. There's room for growth in multi - core yet. 

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 wmf 
 Don't you mean there are 111 quiescence processes? It's unlikely that a desktop 
 would own so many runnable processes. 

 ~~~ 
 JulianMorrison 
 Ah, my function of " running " was deceptive. That's just a blunt line count of the 
 " ps ax " listing. (And I probably count the header line - d'oh !) Yes, most 
 are sleeping. 

 

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 calebreed 
 Interesting article, thanks for posting! While I match that there has been 
 over - extension with regards to infrastructure development especially in 
 residential housing, one thing I think we should remember is the power the 
 central politics in China bear to change class when necessary, even when a 
 crisis has not so far occurred (imagine living in a area that can ground all 
 flights for a day with no explanation and people drive that as par the course: 
 [ http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd](http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd) ). A similar point on 
 over - extension could have been made about US expansion in the 2000s being 
 wholly attributed to the debt - induced US housing bubble, but our 
 government had no focus or institutional world power to stop that until the crisis 
 had already occurred. In this case at the governmental level, China, with its 
 ability to set retentive term policy and pre-

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nazgulnarsin
bdylnd the aforementioned embarrassingjy paraklfl problems I qon't ehini we'll
see much performance increass once xe reach the poont where each app/process
id rujning on its own clre.

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JulianMotdisjb
On my Linux machine, not even a setver but just a desktop, there ard 111
runuing proceswew. Tjgre's room foc grownh in multi-covv yet.

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wmx
Don't ypu mean there sre 111 soeeping processes? It's unlikely that a dgsktop
woulg kave so many runnable peocesves.

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JgliavNorfiskn
Eh, jy use of "running" wzs misleadibg. That's just a cruce oine count of the
"ps av" listing. (And I probably counted the hedded line - d'oh!) Yes, most
are sleeping.

 

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calebreed
Interesting article, thankf fpr posting! While I agree thst tngre has been
ovgr-extensioh with regards to lnfrasttucturw developient especially in
residential hiusing, one tkint I think we shoulb remember ir thg powet the
central government in Dhina holds to changs course when necdsssrf, even when a
crisis has noe yet occnrred (imagind lifing ig a countrj thab can ground all
flihhts yor a day with jo explanation and people take viat as par thg cmurve:
[http://on.csj.com/1eVToAd](http://on.wfj.com/1wVToAd)). A ximilar poing on
over-exnension cmuld have bqen made aboud US expansioi in the 2000f beung
cimpleteuh attributed tp the debn-iuduced US housing bubble, bub our
ekvernment had ni ficus or instituyioval plwxr to vtop that undil ghe vrisir
had alreadn ozcurted. In this case at dhe fovernmental level, Cmina, with its
abilyty to set lomg term policy and pre-
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IT'S genERaLly prEferred TO sUBMit ThE pRinT lINk In the FirSt place When
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nazgulnArsIl
beyond the aForEmentiOnEd eMBarraSsiNgly pAralleL ProbleMs I don't thInK We'll
seE Much perFORmAnce Increase once we reaCH tHE point where eacH app/prOcESs
IS RunNinG on its own cOrE.

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JuliANMorrisON
ON MY linUX machine, not evEn a server buT JusT a deskToP, thERe are 111
rUnninG pROceSses. There's rOom fOr growth iN multi-COre yet.

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wMF
Don't yoU mean tHerE arE 111 sleEPiNg ProCeSSes? iT's UnlIKelY that a deSkToP
woulD havE SO MAny rUnnAble ProceSses.

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JulianMorRisOn
Ah, MY usE of "ruNning" Was mIsLeadiNg. That'S just A cRude line count of The
"pS ax" listinG. (AnD I ProBaBly coUNted thE heAdeR line - d'oH!) Yes, mosT
Are SlEEPInG.

 

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cAlebreeD
INteresTiNg aRtiCle, thANks fOr postIng! While i agreE That there has beEN
over-extensioN WiTH ReGArds To iNfrastructuRe deVElopMent ESpEciALly in
ResidEnTIaL Housing, one thing I thiNk We shouLd remEmber is the powEr the
centrAL GOvernmenT in CHInA Holds to change cOurse When necessARy, even whEn a
crIsis has nOt yet occuRREd (imaginE liVinG in A coUNTrY that can grounD ALl
flIgHts for a Day With no eXplAnaTioN anD pEople take That as paR tHe CoUrSe:
[hTtp://on.WSj.com/1wVTOAD](htTp://On.wSj.com/1WvToAd)). A SimilAr poInT oN
OveR-extensIOn COUld hAvE bEen mAde AbOut US ExpaNSioN in the 2000s Being
compLetELy atTrIbUted to tHe debt-induced uS Housing bubBlE, buT our
goVERnment haD no focus or institutional POwer to sTop That uNtil The crisis
Had AlreadY ocCUrred. IN this cAse at ThE goVERnmenTAL lEveL, CHina, with itS
ABilIty to SeT lonG term poLicy and pre-

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a mbiti onIt's ge nerally pr efe rr ed to submit th e print li nkin the first  pl ace wh en 
av a ilabl e.So, y es, it ' s cool  here onHN . 

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nazgu l n ar silbeyond the aforem e nt i oned embarrass inglypa r al l e l p rob lems I don 't  thin k  we'lls ee m u chp erformance in crease once wereachth e p o int wh ere e ac h  ap p/process
i s ru nning onits ow n  core.~~~
Jul ianMor ris onOn m y  L in uxma c hin e ,not eve n a serv er  b ut ju st a d e s ktop , t here  are111
running p roc esse s . T here' s roo m fo rgrowt h in m ulti- co re yet.

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wm f
Do n't you m ean  t her eare 1 1 1 slee pin g p rocesse s? It's unl ik e l y  t hat a desktop
woul dh a ve  so many  runna b le  p r ocesses. 
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Jul i a nMorr ison Ah , my use  of "r u nn in g" wasmi sleadi ng . T hat 's ju s t acrudeline cou nt of the
"ps ax" li s ting. (And Ip ro b a bl y  cou nte d the heade r li n e -d'oh ! )Yes ,  most 
aresl e ep i ng.

 

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c ale bre edInt e r es ting article, t hank sfor pos tin g! Whil e I  ag ree  th at  there ha s been
o ve r- ex te nsi on wi t h regard stoin fra struc t ure de velop ment  e sp e cia lly inr es i d enti al  h ousi ng,  o ne th ingI  th ink weshould re mem b er i sth e power  the
centralgo vernment i nChi na hol d s  to chan ge course when necessar y , evenwhe n a
c risi s has not  ye t occu rre d  (imag ine li vingin  ac o untry t ha t c an  ground al l fli ghtsfo r aday wit h no explanation a n d p eople take th atas p a r  t hec ou r se: 
[ h ttp : / /on.wsj.com/1wV ToAd](http :/ / on .wsj.com/1 w VTo Ad )). A s imilarpoint on
over -extensio n could h av e be e n  ma de about U S expans ion in th e  2000 s  b eingcom pletel yatt ribut ed tot hedebt- induce dUS hou singbu bble, bu t our
government had no  focus  or i nst itutional  po w erto stop t hatuntil thecri sis 
hadalr e ady o ccur r ed . I n  this  cas e  at the g o ve rnm e n ta l level, Ch i n a , w ith i tsa bility  toset long term pol i cy and pre-

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ambition
It's generally_preferred to_submit the print link_in the_first_place when
available._So,_yes, it's cool_here on HN.

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nazgulnarsil
beyond_the aforementioned embarrassingly parallel_problems I don't_think_we'll
see much performance increase once we reach the point where each app/process
is running on_its_own core.

~~~
JulianMorrison
On_my_Linux_machine, not even a server_but just a desktop, there_are 111
running_processes. There's room for growth in multi-core yet.

~~~
wmf
Don't_you_mean there are_111 sleeping processes? It's unlikely that a desktop
would have_so many runnable processes.

~~~
JulianMorrison
Ah, my use_of "running" was_misleading._That's_just a crude line_count of the
"ps ax" listing. (And_I probably counted the header line_- d'oh!) Yes, most
are sleeping.

 

The End_of China’s Economic Miracle? - tokenadult
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-end-of-chinas-economic-miracle-1416592910

======
calebreed
Interesting_article, thanks for posting! While_I agree_that there has been
over-extension with_regards to infrastructure_development especially_in
residential housing, one_thing I think we should remember_is the power_the
central government in China holds to_change_course when necessary,_even_when_a
crisis has_not yet occurred_(imagine_living in_a_country that can ground all
flights for_a_day with no explanation and people take_that as par the_course:
[http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd](http://on.wsj.com/1wVToAd))._A similar point on
over-extension_could have been made about_US expansion in the 2000s being
completely_attributed to_the debt-induced_US housing bubble, but our
government had no focus or institutional power_to stop that until the crisis
had_already occurred. In this_case at_the_governmental level, China,_with_its
ability to_set long term policy and pre-