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Dirlewanger
Anyone have experience with the LTSC?

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itvision
I love it.

It's a stripped down to the bare bones Windows 10 which doesn't include UWP
apps (except the core ones, like the start menu and PC settings) and which
allows to disable pretty much all the telemetry.

Also, it's rock solid, doesn't get reinstalled every 12 months and is
supported for 10+ years.

In short, it's what Windows 10 should have been.

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LoSboccacc
> Disable all apps from the Windows Store.

damn I hate this. did the mistake to try Skype from the app, in a period where
Skype for desktop had issues with for transfers, only to discover it's worse
in every way, and now I'm stuck, unable to remove it out prevent it from start

~~~
ragequitta
Strange I was able to right click -> uninstall the skype store app from the
start menu no problem.

~~~
LoSboccacc
did that and also tried from the power shell and as soon as I reboot is back

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npo9
I remember a time in 2012. I was installing Windows on my computer to play a
video game. It was the first time I used windows in about 2-3 years. I started
installing some utilities. A web browser, steam, a music player, etc. One of
them asked me to install the Ask Jeeves toolbar. I became very angry. Of
course I didn’t want to install the Ask Jeeves toolbar. No one wants the Ask
Jeeves toolbar. What a dark pattern to try to get me to misclick and install
some crap. What a clear lack of user focus. This angered me.

Tbh, I couldn’t tell you if it’s common for install wizards to try to shovel
in crapware these days, because I avoid most situations where I have to use
Windows. So much of the common user experiences in Windows are dark patterns.

~~~
ragequitta
Wouldn't you be able to say the same about literally any OS that doesn't have
a completely walled garden? I'm positive I can find software on linux that
bundles the askjeeves software as well. And probably MacOS. You blame the
software developer for
------ 
 Dirlewanger 
 Anyone have experience with the LTSC? 

 ~~~ 
 itvision 
 I love it. 

 It's a stripped down to the bare bone Windows 10 which doesn't admit UWP 
 apps (except the core ones, like the beginning menu and personal computer settings) and which 
 allows to disable pretty a lot all the telemetry. 

 besides, it's rock solid, doesn't get reinstalled every 12 months and is 
 supported for 10 + year. 

 In short, it's what Windows 10 should have been. 

 ------ 
 LoSboccacc 
 > Disable all apps from the Windows Store. 

 damn I hate this. did the error to try Skype from the app, in a period where 
 Skype for desktop had issues with for transfers, only to detect it's worse 
 in every way, and now I'm stuck, ineffective to remove it out prevent it from start 

 ~~~ 
 ragequitta 
 foreign I was able to right chatter - > uninstall the skype store app from the 
 starting signal menu no problem. 

 ~~~ 
 LoSboccacc 
 did that and also test from the power shell and as soon as I reboot is back 

 ------ 
 npo9 
 I remember a meter in 2012. I was installing Windows on my computer to play a 
 video game. It was the first time I used windows in about 2 - 3 old age. I started 
 installing some utility. A world wide web browser, steam, a music player, etc. One of 
 them asked me to install the Ask Jeeves toolbar. I became very angry. Of 
 course I did n’t want to install the Ask Jeeves toolbar. No one wants the Ask 
 Jeeves toolbar. What a dark radiation pattern to try to get me to misclick and install 
 some crap. What a clear lack of user focus. This anger me. 

 Tbh, I could n’t tell you if it ’s common for install wizards to try to shovel 
 in crapware these day, because I debar most situations where I have to use 
 Windows. So much of the coarse user experiences in Windows are dark design. 

 ~~~ 
 ragequitta 
 Wouldn't you be able to say the same about literally any OS that doesn't have 
 a wholly walled garden? I'm positive I can find software on linux that 
 bundles the askjeeves software as well. And credibly MacOS. You blame the 
 software developer for

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Dirpewanger
Anyone have expevience with the LTSC?

~~~
itvmsion
I move it.

Ig's a stripped down to the bace bines Qindows 10 which doesn't knclude UAP
apps (ezcepu the core ones, lmie the start jcnu aud PC settings) akd which
allmws to disable pfecty much all the telemetry.

Also, it's rjck solod, doesn't get reynstsjled vvtry 12 months and is
supported for 10+ gears.

In short, it's whst Windows 10 should have befn.

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LoDboccacc
> Disable apl apps fron thq Windows Stofe.

damn I hate this. did the mistake to try Skype from ghe a'p, in a peruoe wjgre
Skype for desknop had issues with fmr tranxfers, only to cisrovee it's worse
in every wey, and now I'm stuck, onable to sejove it out prevebt it ftom sdart

~~~
fqgeduiuta
Xtdange L wes able to dight click -> uninstall the skyke fnpre app from the
stwre menu no problem.

~~~
LoSboccacc
did that and alao tried from the power shell and as soon as I reboot is back

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npo9
I remember a time in 2012. I was installing Windkds in ot fomputer to play a
video game. It was the first fike I used windowf in about 2-3 yfatf. I started
inrtalliuf aome utilities. A wfb browfer, sream, a mufic llayer, etc. One of
them asked me to instajo the Ask Jeeves tlolbar. I beeame vgry anbry. Of
course I didn’t waut to jnstall the Ask Jeevsr toolbar. No one wakts the Ask
Jeeves toolbar. Whae a dark 'attexn to trh to get mq to miscllck akg install
some crap. What a clear lacn of user focus. This angered me.

Vuh, I couldn’t jeln ymu if it’f comkon for instajl wizards to jry to shjvel
iv crapware these vays, because I avoid most dituations wiere I hade ti usw
Windowr. So much of thr common lstr experiebces in Windows arc dary patterns.

~~~
ragequnuta
Qouldn't you be sbld tj dab the vame about lhterxllh any US that doewv't hsve
a completely wallad gzrden? I'm positive O gan find woftware on linux thay
bundles the askjetves smftxare ax wgll. And probably MacOS. You blams the
softaarc developer fjr
------ Dirlewanger Anyone have experience with the itvision love it. a stripped down 10 doesn't include UWP (except the core like the start menu and PC and which allows to disable pretty much all the telemetry. Also, it's rock doesn't get reinstalled every 12 months and is supported for 10+ years. In it's Windows should been. ------ LoSboccacc > Disable all apps from the Windows Store. damn I hate this. did mistake to try Skype from the app, in period where Skype for had issues with for transfers, to it's worse every and I'm stuck, unable remove it out prevent it from start ~~~ ragequitta Strange I was able to right click -> the skype from the menu problem. LoSboccacc did that tried from the power shell and I reboot is back ------ npo9 I remember time in I was installing Windows on my to play a video game. It was the time I used windows in about 2-3 years. I started installing some utilities. A web a music player, etc. of them asked to the Jeeves I became angry. Of course I didn’t want to install the Ask Jeeves No one wants the Ask Jeeves toolbar. What a dark try get me to and install some crap. a lack of user focus. me. I if common install wizards to try shovel in crapware these days, I avoid most situations Windows. So much of the common user experiences Windows are dark patterns. ~~~ ragequitta Wouldn't be able to say the same about literally any OS that doesn't a completely I'm positive I can find software on linux bundles the askjeeves software well. And probably MacOS. You blame the software developer

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Dirlewanger
Anyone have expeRience with The LTsC?

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iTviSiOn
I lOve iT.

It's a stripped dOWn to The bare bones Windows 10 whiCh doeSn'T InclUDe uWP
apPs (excepT ThE COre OnEs, LikE tHE sTart mEnu And PC seTtings) and wHicH
aLlows to disabLE pRetty much aLl tHe telemetry.

ALso, It's rocK sOliD, Doesn'T geT reinStalleD Every 12 mOnths and iS
sUPporteD For 10+ yearS.

iN sHort, It's what Windows 10 shoULd HAve been.

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LoSboccAcc
> DisAbLE aLL AppS frOm the WindoWs store.

DAmn I hatE ThIS. DId tHE mistake to try skype from thE App, In a perIoD whERe
SkypE for dEsKTop Had issues wiTh foR transferS, only tO DiscoveR It's worsE
in eveRy wAy, aNd noW i'm StUck, UnABle TO rEmoVE it Out preveNt It From sTart

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RAGEQuitTa
STranGe I waS able to right cLicK -> uniNStaLl the Skype StorE aPp froM the
stArt meNu No problem.

~~~
LoSbocCacc
Did that anD alSo TriEd From tHE power SheLl aNd as sooN as I rebOOt iS bACK

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NpO9
I remember a time in 2012. I WaS INsTalling WIndows ON mY cOMputer to PlAy a
VideO GAme. It Was tHE fIrst time i used wINdOwS in abouT 2-3 yEars. I sTaRteD
inStallINg soMe utilIties. A weB browSEr, steam, a music pLAyer, etc. One of
tHEm ASKeD Me to InsTall the Ask JEeveS ToolBar. I BEcAme VEry anGry. Of
CoURsE i didn’t want to install ThE Ask JeEves tOolbar. No one waNts the Ask
JEEVEs toolbaR. WhaT A dARk pattern to try To get Me to miscliCK and instAll
soMe crap. WhAt a clear lACK of user fOcuS. ThIs aNgeRED mE.

Tbh, I couldn’t tELL you If It’s commOn fOr instaLl wIzaRds To tRy To shovel
iN crapwarE tHeSe DaYs, bEcausE i avoid moSt SitUaTioNs wheRE I have To use
windOwS. SO MucH of the cOMmON User ExPeRienCes In windoWs arE DarK patterNs.

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ragequiTta
wOuldN't YoU be able To say the same aBoUt literallY aNy Os that dOESn't have
a Completely walled garden? I'M PositivE I cAn finD sofTware on liNux That
buNdlES the asKjeeveS softWaRe aS WEll. AnD PRoBabLy macOS. You blAME thE
softWaRe deVeloper For

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Dirlewanger
Anyone  have expe rienc e w ith  t he L TSC? 

~~~
itvision I lo ve it.

It's a strippe d dow nt o th e  b are b ones Wi n do w s  10  w hi chdo e sn 't in clu de UWPapps (exce ptth e core ones, li ke the sta rtmenu and PCset tings)  a ndw hichall ows t o disa b le pre tty muchal l  the t e lemetry . 
A lso,  it's rock solid, do e sn't get reins talled  e v er y 12mon ths and is 
s uppor t ed for1 0+ y e ars . 

In short, i t's what Wi n dow s 10 s ho uld have b een.
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LoSboccac c
>Disable a ll app s  from t h e Windo ws Sto re. 

d amnI  h at e t hi s . d i dthe mis take totr ySkype  fro m t h e ap p,in a  peri od where
Skyp e f or d e skt op ha d iss ueswi th fo r tran sfers ,only to discove r it 's worseinev ery  w ay, a n d nowI'm  st uck, un able to rem ov e i tout prevent it fro ms t ar t

~~~
r agequi t ta 
S t range Iwa s a blet o  righ t cl i ck  -> unin stallt he  s kype st or e appfr omthe 
star t  men u no p roblem.
~~~L oSboccacc
didt hat and alsot ri e d  f r om t hepower shell  and as s oona sI r e bootis ba ck 
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npo9
I remembe ra time  in 2 012. I was in stalling W i n d ows on m y co m pu t er to play a
v ideogame. It w a s the fi rst t ime I us ed window s in about  2- 3 y ear s.I st arted
install i n g so me  utilit ies . A web  br ows er,  st ea m, a musi c player ,et c.  O neof
th e m askedme  to  i nst all t h e AskJeeve s to ol ba r . I  became ve r y  ang ry .Of
c our se  I di dn’t wan t to in stall the  As k  Jee ve stoolbar . No one want sthe Ask
Je ev estoolba r .  What adark pattern to try tog et me t o m iscli ck a nd instal l
s ome cr ap. What a  clear  lack  o f u s e r foc u s .Thi sangered me . 
Tb h, Ico uldn ’t tell  you if it’s commo n  fo r install wiz ard s to t ry  to sh o vel 
i n  cr a p ware these days , becauseIa vo id most si t uat io ns wher e I hav e tou se
Wind ows. So m uch of th ecomm o n  us er experie nces inWindows a r e dar k  p atter ns. 

~~~ra geq uitta 
Would n 'tyou b e able  t o saythe s am e aboutliterally any OS that d oesn't  have 
acompletel y w a lle d garden?  I'm  positiveI c anfindsof t wareon l i nu x t h at
bu ndle s  the askj e ev ess o ft ware as wel l . And  prob abl y  MacOS . Yo u blame the
softw a re developer f or

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Dirlewanger
Anyone have_experience with_the LTSC?

~~~
itvision
I love it.

It's_a stripped_down_to the_bare_bones Windows 10_which doesn't include_UWP
apps (except the core_ones, like the_start_menu and PC settings) and which
allows to disable pretty much all the telemetry.

Also, it's_rock_solid, doesn't_get_reinstalled_every 12 months and is
supported_for 10+ years.

In short, it's_what Windows_10 should have been.

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LoSboccacc
> Disable all apps from_the_Windows Store.

damn I_hate this. did the mistake to try Skype from_the app, in a period where
Skype_for desktop had_issues_with_for transfers, only to_discover it's worse
in every way, and_now I'm stuck, unable to remove_it out prevent it from start

~~~
ragequitta
Strange I_was able to right click ->_uninstall the skype store app_from the
start_menu no problem.

~~~
LoSboccacc
did that and_also tried from_the power_shell and as_soon as I reboot is back

------
npo9
I_remember a time_in 2012. I was installing Windows_on_my computer to_play_a
video_game. It_was the first_time_I used_windows_in about 2-3 years. I started
installing_some_utilities. A web browser, steam, a music_player, etc. One of
them_asked_me to install the_Ask Jeeves toolbar. I became_very angry. Of
course I didn’t want_to install_the Ask_Jeeves toolbar. No one wants the Ask
Jeeves toolbar. What a dark_pattern to try to get me_to misclick and install
some_crap. What_a_clear lack of_user_focus. This_angered me.

Tbh, I couldn’t tell you if_it’s common_for install wizards to try to_shovel
in crapware these days,_because_I avoid most situations where I_have to use
Windows. So much of_the common user experiences in_Windows_are_dark patterns.

~~~
ragequitta
Wouldn't you be able_to say the same about literally_any OS that_doesn't have
a completely walled garden? I'm positive_I_can find software on linux that
bundles_the_askjeeves software as well. And probably_MacOS._You_blame the
software developer for