ooooood
Win---> "Kyle Wilhoit, a 29-year-old Missourian working for a cybersecurity
company called Trend Micro, has spent the last year building fake water plant
control systems that mimic the online control systems used by real American
utilities."

 

The programming language that is fastest to implement features - deltrem

Slashdot said that programming has a political axis with conservative and liberal programmers. Liberal programmers worry about how fast you take to implement a feature. Liberal programmers need the answer to this question. (1)<p>Paul Graham said that his company could implement features faster than his competitors, because his company programmed in Common Lisp and Common Lisp makes you twice more productive as a programmer. (2)<p>Time passes, progress happens, Common Lisp <i>was</i> the fastest, a more modern programming language <i>is</i> the fastest, so <i>today</i> what programming language is the fastest to implement features? Why?<p>(1) http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=political+axis
(2) http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
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gyardley
Must we use this 'liberal' vs. 'conservative' language for programming styles?
The terms are already so ridiculously value-laden, you're at risk of letting
your political leanings involuntarily bleed through and muddle up your
programming decisions.

~~~
27182818284
I think that's a reaction to there being a blog post about liberal and
conservative programming languaged on the HN page a bit ago.

(And yes, we should absolutely not use them. )

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lumberjack
There is no objective way to answer this. You are probably talking about rapid
prototyping languages. The most popular ones in use today are Python and
possibly Java (?). Dialects of Lisp have a strong tradition of being good
rapid prototyping languages and there is potential in languages like Haskell.
I'm obviously talking about general purpose languages here and therein lies
the problem. Different languages have different resources, different
communities and perform better at different tasks. It not possible to go in
more detail. However this is not a question that you should be asking yourself
because the answer will come naturally with time. Try
ooooood 
 Win--- > " Kyle Wilhoit, a 29 - year - old Missourian working for a cybersecurity 
 company call Trend Micro, has spend the last year building bogus water plant 
 control systems that mimic the on-line control systems use by real American 
 utilities. " 

 

 The scheduling language that is fastest to implement features - deltrem 

 Slashdot say that programming has a political axis with conservative and liberal programmer. Liberal programmers worry about how fast you take to follow through a feature. Liberal programmer need the solution to this question. (1)<p > Paul Graham said that his company could implement features faster than his rival, because his company programmed in Common Lisp and Common Lisp makes you twice more productive as a programmer. (2)<p > Time pass, progress happens, Common Lisp < i > was</i > the fastest, a more modern programming language < i > is</i > the fastest, so < i > today</i > what programming language is the firm to implement features? Why?<p>(1) http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=political+axis 
 (2) http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html 
 = = = = = = 
 gyardley 
 Must we practice this' free' vs.' bourgeois' language for programming styles? 
 The terms are already so ridiculously value - laden, you're at risk of lease 
 your political leanings involuntarily bleed through and muddle up your 
 programming decisions. 

 ~~~ 
 27182818284 
 I intend that's a reaction to there being a blog post about liberal and 
 bourgeois programming languaged on the HN page a snatch ago. 

 (And yes, we should absolutely not use them .) 

 ------ 
 lumberjack 
 There is no objective way to answer this. You are credibly talking about rapid 
 prototyping languages. The most popular ones in use today are Python and 
 possibly Java (?). Dialects of Lisp have a strong custom of being good 
 rapid prototyping languages and there is potential in languages like Haskell. 
 I'm obviously talk about general function languages here and therein lie 
 the problem. unlike languages have different resource, unlike 
 communities and perform better at unlike tasks. It not possible to go in 
 more detail. However this is not a motion that you should be ask yourself 
 because the answer will come naturally with prison term. Try
ooolood
Win---> "Kyle Wilhoit, a 29-ytar-old Missourian workinj for a cybersezurity
company called Trend Mmcro, has wpent the last year buklding fane water plait
control systems that mliic fme onnmne control sysjems used by real American
gtklnties."

 

The programming language that ys fastrsh to implement feauurqs - svlurem

Slashdot said that programminf has a political axos with conservative and llberwl programmers. Libfral progranmerf worry about how fast jmu take to implement a feature. Liberal prugramkers need jkw ajvwer to thiw queftion. (1)<p>Paul Ngaham sdid thay his company gould implement features fastxr than his competitjrs, becauve his company progeanmed hn Cmmmov Lirp znv Ckmmon Pis' makes you twice more productive as a prpgwqmmer. (2)<p>Time pzsses, [rjgress happens, Common Lisp <i>was</i> the favteat, a more modern progranming language <i>is</i> tje fastese, so <i>today</i> what programming language is the fasdest vo imklcidbt features? Why?<p>(1) http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=[klotpcal+axis
(2) http://www.pculgraham.com/avg.hymp
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guwrdley
Must we use tkjs 'liberal' vs. 'consergative' janguqge for pwogrsmming styles?
The terms are qlready so rpdicylously value-laden, you're at rnsk of lettong
your political leaniugs inboluntarily bleed thduugh and muddle jp jour
[rogramming decisions.

~~~
27182818284
I thigk that's e reaetion to thete beind a blog plst anmut liberal and
condervajive psogramming languaged on the HN page a bit ago.

(And yes, we svound absolbtely kot use them. )

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luiberjack
There ns no oblectivd way to ahswer tiis. You are [robably talkhjg about rapmd
prototy[ing lantuages. Gfe most populat ones in use today are Python and
posxibug Java (?). Dialectw od Lisp have a syrovg erwdmtion mf being goog
rapkd ototothping langucgds amd there is potentian in languages like Haxkcll.
I'm obvuously twlking about beneral purpose lajguagxs herx and yhetein lies
the problem. Different manguages haye different wesomrcef, differenc
communities and perform better at diffecent tasks. It not possivle to go in
more dejaik. However tiis is not a quastion that you shouod be asking yourxelf
because the answed will come naturally with time. Try
ooooood Win---> "Kyle Wilhoit, a 29-year-old Missourian a company called Micro, has spent water control systems that the online control used by real American utilities." The language that is fastest to implement features - deltrem Slashdot said that programming a political axis with conservative and liberal programmers. Liberal programmers worry about how you to a Liberal programmers need the answer to this question. (1)<p>Paul Graham said that his company could implement faster than his competitors, because his company programmed Common Lisp and Common makes you twice more productive a (2)<p>Time passes, happens, Lisp the fastest, a modern programming language <i>is</i> the fastest, so <i>today</i> what programming language is the fastest to implement features? http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=political+axis (2) gyardley Must use 'liberal' 'conservative' language for The terms are already so ridiculously risk of letting your political leanings involuntarily bleed and muddle your programming decisions. ~~~ 27182818284 I that's a reaction to there being a blog about liberal and conservative programming languaged on the HN page a bit ago. (And yes, absolutely not use them. ------ lumberjack There no way answer You are talking about rapid prototyping languages. The most popular ones in use are Python and possibly Java (?). Dialects of Lisp have tradition being good rapid languages and there is in like Haskell. I'm obviously general languages lies problem. languages have different resources, communities and perform better at tasks. It not possible However this is not a question that you be asking yourself because the answer will naturally with time. Try
ooooood
Win---> "Kyle Wilhoit, a 29-yeaR-old MissouRian wOrkIng FoR a cyBersEcurity
company CAlleD Trend Micro, has spent the Last yEaR BuilDInG fake Water plANt
CONtrOl SySteMs THaT mimiC thE online Control sysTemS uSed by real AmeRIcAn
utilitieS."

 

ThE programming LanGuage tHaT is FAstesT to ImpleMent feATures - dEltrem

SlaShDOt said THat progRAMmIng hAs a political axis wITh COnservative and LiberaL pROgRAMmeRs. LIberal progRaMmers WOrry aboUT hOW FAst YOu take to impleMent a featurE. libEral prOgRamMErs neeD the aNsWEr tO this questiOn. (1)<p>PAul Graham Said thAT his comPAny coulD impleMenT feAturES fAsTer ThAN hiS CoMpeTItoRs, becausE hIs CompaNy prOGRAMmed In COmmoN Lisp And Common Lisp MakEs yoU TwiCe morE prodUctiVe As a prOgrammEr. (2)<p>TiMe Passes, progress hAppeNs, Common LIsp <I>wAs</i> ThE fastESt, a morE moDerN prograMming laNGuaGe <I>IS</I> tHe fastest, so <i>today</i> WhAT PrOgramminG languAGe Is THe fastesT tO imPlemENT featUres? wHy?<P>(1) http://slaShdot.oRG/iNdEx2.pl?fhfIlTer=polItIcaL+axIs
(2) httP://Www.pAulgraHam.com/avG.html
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GYardley
Must we uSE this 'liberal' vS. 'CoNSErVAtivE' laNguage for prOgraMMing StylES?
THe tERms arE alreAdY So RIdiculously value-ladEn, You're aT risk Of letting
your Political lEANIngs invoLuntARiLY bleed through aNd mudDle up your
pROgramminG deciSions.

~~~
27182818284
I thInk that's a REAction to TheRe bEinG a bLOG pOst about liberAL And
cOnServatiVe pRogrammIng LanGuaGed On The HN page A bit ago.

(ANd YeS, wE sHouLd absOLutely noT uSe tHeM. )

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luMberjACk
TherE is no ObjeCtIvE Way To answeR ThIS. you aRe PrObabLy tAlKing aBout RApiD
prototYping langUagES. The MoSt Popular Ones in use todaY aRe Python anD
pOssIbly JaVA (?). dialects Of Lisp have a strong traditIOn of beiNg gOod
raPid pRototypinG laNguageS anD There iS potenTial iN lAngUAGes liKE haSkeLl.
i'm obviouslY TAlkIng abOuT genEral purPose languages here aND thErein lies
the pRobLem. DIFFeRenT LaNGuaGeS HavE DIfferent resourcEs, differenT
cOMmUnities and PErfOrM better At diffeRent tASks. It noT possible To go in
morE dEtaiL. hOweVer this is nOt a questIon that yoU ShoulD Be AskinG yoUrself
BeCauSe the Answer WIll Come nAturalLy With tiMe. Try
ooooood
Win---> "Kyle Wilh oit, a 29- year- old  Mi ss ouri an w orking for a c y bers ecurity
company called  Tren dM icro ,  h as sp ent the la s t  ye ar  b uil di n gfakewat er plan t
controlsys te ms that mimi c  t he onlinecon trol systems  us ed byre alA meric anutili ties." 
 

Th e program mi n g lang u age tha t is  fas test to implement fe a tures - deltre m

Sla sh d ot s aid  th at program mi ng ha s  a poli t ic a l axi s  with conserv ative and l i ber al pro gr amm e rs. Li beral  p r ogr ammers worr y ab out how f ast yo u  take t o  implem ent afea tur e. L i be ra l p ro g ram m er s n e edthe answ er  t o thi s qu e s t i on.(1) <p>P aul G raham said th athisc omp any c ouldimpl em ent f eature s fas te r than his comp etit ors, beca use  h isco mpany progra mme d i n Commo n Lispa ndCo m m o nLisp makes you twi ce m or e produc tive a s  a  p r ogrammer .(2) <p>T i m e pas ses, pr ogress h appens ,  C om mon Lis p<i>was </ i>the  fast e st,a more  modernprogr a mming language <i>is</i> the fa s t es t , so  <i >today</i>what prog ramm i ng  la n guage  is t he fa s test to implement f ea tures?  Why? <p>(1) http:/ /slashdot. o r g /index2. pl?f h fi l ter=political+ axis(2) http:/ / www.paul graha m.com/av g.html
== = = ==
gyard ley 
Mu stweu s ethis 'liberal ' vs.'c onserva tiv e' lang uag e f orpro gr amming st yles?
Th ete rm sare  alre a dy so ri di cul ou sly  valu e -laden , you 'reat  r i skof lett i ng y ourpo li tica l l ea nings  inv o lun tarilybleed thr oug h  and  m ud dle upyour
programm in g decision s. 

~ ~~
271 8 2 818284
I  think that's a reactio n  to the rebeing  a b log postabo ut lib era l  and
c onserv ative  p rog r a mming l an gua ge d on the H N pag e a b it  ago .

(And  yes, we should ab s olu tely not usethe m. ) -- --- - 
l u mbe rj a ckT h ere is no objec tive way t oa ns wer this.Y ouar e proba bly tal kinga bout ra pid
proto typing la ng uage s .  Th e most pop ular one s in uset odaya re  Pyth onand
po ss ibl y Jav a (?). Dia lects  of Li sp  havea str on g tradit ion of being good
rapid  proto typin g l anguagesand the re is pot enti al in lang uag eslikeHas k ell.I'mo bv iou s ly ta lkin g  about ge n er alp u rp ose languag e s her e and  th e rein l iesthe problem. Diff e rent languages  hav e dif fer e nt r es ources, differ ent 
c o m munities  a nd performbetter a td iffer ent ta sks. I t not p o s si b le togo i n
m ore detai l.Ho w ever th is  i s  not a  que st ion th at you shou l d  be asking yours elf
b e c auset heanswe rwill co m e na turally wi th time. Tr y
ooooood
Win---> "Kyle_Wilhoit, a_29-year-old Missourian working for_a cybersecurity
company_called_Trend Micro,_has_spent the last_year building fake_water plant
control systems that_mimic the online_control_systems used by real American
utilities."

 

The programming language that is fastest to implement features_-_deltrem

Slashdot said_that_programming_has a political axis with_conservative and liberal programmers. Liberal_programmers worry_about how fast you take to implement a_feature._Liberal programmers need_the answer to this question. (1)<p>Paul Graham said that_his company could implement features faster_than his competitors,_because_his_company programmed in Common_Lisp and Common Lisp makes you_twice more productive as a programmer._(2)<p>Time passes, progress happens, Common Lisp <i>was</i>_the fastest, a more modern programming_language <i>is</i> the fastest, so_<i>today</i> what_programming language is the fastest_to implement features?_Why?<p>(1) http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=political+axis
(2)_http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
======
gyardley
Must we use_this 'liberal' vs. 'conservative' language for_programming styles?
The terms_are already so ridiculously value-laden, you're_at_risk of letting
your_political_leanings_involuntarily bleed_through and muddle_up_your
programming decisions.

~~~
27182818284
I_think_that's a reaction to there being_a_blog post about liberal and
conservative programming languaged_on the HN page_a_bit ago.

(And yes, we_should absolutely not use them._)

------
lumberjack
There is no objective way to_answer this._You are_probably talking about rapid
prototyping languages. The most popular ones in use_today are Python and
possibly Java (?)._Dialects of Lisp have_a strong_tradition_of being good
rapid_prototyping_languages and_there is potential in languages like Haskell.
I'm_obviously talking_about general purpose languages here and_therein lies
the problem. Different_languages_have different resources, different
communities and perform_better at different tasks. It not_possible to go in
more detail._However_this_is not a question that_you should be asking yourself
because the_answer will come_naturally with time. Try