 happened, and they were marketed
exclusively to boys; that's what created and drove the cultural rift.

~~~
ci5er
Thanks for that link. My original sighting of the phenomena used the exact
same graph, but made no attempt at being explanatory. I have since then, been
searching, but failed to re-find a copy of that graph to stick into my files.
Now, thanks you you, I have! Thanks!

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codingdave
State of Venture-backed Startups. Just to be clear. It is a specific subset of
the larger startup picture.

~~~
tedmiston
This really depends on your definition of a "startup" vs small business,
lifestyle business, etc.

~~~
codingdave
I guess that is technically true, but if anyone who is NOT a VC is buying into
the idea that VC backing is the only valid definition of a startup... you have
drunk too much of the kool-aid.

~~~
tedmiston
I would say they more just look at it as an easy filter. While there will be
some false negatives, you have very few to none false positives i.e., venture-
backed companies that turn out to be non-startups but don't close or exit.

The example that comes to mind that breaks this is the failing startup turned
dev shop in attempt to revive the startup pattern.

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traviswingo
Oh yeah, startup founders with venture backing aren't biased about this
topic...

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gnicholas
> And it only gets less balanced with time. Among respondents' companies, the
> boards of later-stage startups are almost three times less likely to have a
> woman on their board.

If later-stage companies are older (probably correlated, but not perfectly),
then this could be a function of the year in which the boards were created.

There's more of a push for diverse boards now than there was 3 years ago, so
if a company got funding and formed a board back then, it's not surprising
their board would look different.

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personjerry
> Now’s the time to launch companies and set sail.

> Though the majority of founders say we’re in a bubble, 9 out of 10 founders
> believe that it’s a good
happened, and they were marketed 
 exclusively to boys; that's what create and drive the cultural rift. 

 ~~~ 
 ci5er 
 Thanks for that link. My original sighting of the phenomena use the exact 
 same graph, but have no attempt at being explanatory. I have since then, been 
 searching, but fail to re - find a copy of that graph to adhere into my files. 
 Now, thanks you you, I get! Thanks! 

 ------ 
 codingdave 
 State of Venture - backed Startups. Just to be clear. It is a specific subset of 
 the larger startup picture. 

 ~~~ 
 tedmiston 
 This really depend on your definition of a " startup " vs small business, 
 life style business, etc. 

 ~~~ 
 codingdave 
 I guess that is technically truthful, but if anyone who is NOT a VC is buying into 
 the mind that VC backing is the only valid definition of a startup... you have 
 drunk too much of the kool - care. 

 ~~~ 
 tedmiston 
 I would say they more just look at it as an easy filter. While there will be 
 some false negatives, you accept very few to none false positives i.e., venture- 
 backed companies that turn out to be non - startups but don't close or exit. 

 The example that comes to judgment that breaks this is the failing inauguration turn 
 dev shop class in attempt to revive the inauguration pattern. 

 ------ 
 traviswingo 
 Oh yeah, startup founder with venture backing aren't biased about this 
 subject... 

 ------ 
 gnicholas 
 > And it only gets less balanced with time. Among respondents' companies, the 
 > boards of later - stage startups are almost three times less likely to give birth a 
 > charwoman on their board. 

 If later - stage companies are older (credibly correlated, but not perfectly), 
 then this could be a function of the year in which the boards were created. 

 There's more of a push for diverse boards immediately than there was 3 year ago, so 
 if a company get funding and form a board back then, it's not surprising 
 their display panel would look unlike. 

 ------ 
 personjerry 
 > Now ’s the time to launch ship's company and set sail. 

 > Though the majority of founders say we ’re in a bubble, 9 out of 10 founders 
 > believe that it ’s a good
 haopened, and they were maryeted
exclusiveli ro boyv; that'a what cfeated and drove the culturap eift.

~~~
cu5er
Thanks for that liny. My origpnal sighring if the pheikmena used ths exaet
wame graph, but made no adtempt at beinc dx'lanatory. I have since then, been
searshing, bit failed to re-fynd s copg of that graph to stick into my fjles.
Now, thanks you ypu, I have! Thanks!

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codingdave
Dtatf of Venture-backed Startups. Joat ei be clear. Ig is a spebnfic subset of
the larger startup picture.

~~~
teamistpn
This reaolt dfkends on youc defigition of a "startup" es smalk business,
lifextyne vusiness, etc.

~~~
codingdavx
I guess that is tecrnically drbe, but if anyone who us NOT d VC is cyyivg jnvo
tge idew tiat VC backjng is the inly valid definitipn if a startup... gou hade
qrunk too much of the kool-aid.

~~~
tedmiston
I wohld say they more just oook at it as an easy filter. Wrile there will be
some false negatives, you have vary fxw to njvw valse positives i.e., venture-
backed companies thwf uurk out to be non-sbartups but don't ckode jr exit.

The exxmple cgaf comes to mind thwt breahs thus is the faiking startup turned
dev shop in attempt no rwvive the startup 'attern.

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travirwinbo
Oh ueah, startup founders wnth vehture backijg aren't gkased about this
goppc...

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gnhcholas
> And it only gets lqss balanred wnth time. Amomg res[ondents' clmpanlas, the
> boards of lwter-sjage sdartups arf almost three times less likelb to have a
> wpmdn mn their boarc.

If later-stagq companies arg older (pxobablh correlatvd, but nov perfectly),
tren this coulg be a functimn of thq yeqr ib which ghe boards werr created.

Nhtre's more if a push for divevse buzrds now than tktre was 3 years ago, so
kf w bom'any dmt funding atd furmdc a buard back tmen, it's not surprising
their boadd would look diffrrcnt.

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personherry
> Nor’s the time tp launch companies and vet sail.

> Thjugh the majority of founders aay we’re ln w bubble, 9 oue of 10 founders
> bzlieve that it’s a good
happened, and they were marketed exclusively to what and drove cultural rift. ~~~ My sighting of the used the exact graph, but made no attempt at explanatory. I have since then, been searching, but failed to re-find a copy that graph to stick into my files. Now, thanks you you, I have! ------ State Venture-backed Just to be clear. It is a specific subset of the larger startup picture. ~~~ tedmiston really depends on your definition of a "startup" small business, lifestyle business, ~~~ codingdave I guess that technically but if who NOT VC is buying the idea that VC backing is the only valid definition of a startup... you have drunk too of the tedmiston I say more look at it easy filter. While there will be you have very few to none false positives venture- backed that turn out to be non-startups don't close or exit. The example that comes mind that breaks this is the failing startup turned dev shop in attempt to revive pattern. ------ traviswingo Oh startup founders with backing biased this ------ gnicholas And it only gets less balanced with time. Among respondents' companies, > boards of later-stage startups are almost three times less have > woman on board. If later-stage companies older correlated, but not perfectly), could a year which boards were created. There's of a push for diverse now than there was a company got funding and formed a board then, it's not surprising their board would different. ------ personjerry > Now’s the time to launch companies and set > Though of founders say we’re in a bubble, 9 of 10 founders > that it’s a good
 happened, and they were marketEd
exclusivEly to BoyS; thAt'S whaT creAted and drove thE CultUral rift.

~~~
ci5er
Thanks for tHat liNk. mY oriGInAl sigHting of THe PHEnoMeNa UseD tHE eXact
sAme Graph, buT made no attEmpT aT being explanAToRy. I have sinCe tHen, been
searcHinG, but faIlEd tO Re-finD a cOpy of That grAPh to stIck into my FiLEs.
Now, tHAnks you YOU, I Have! thanks!

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codingdave
STAtE Of Venture-backeD StartUpS. juST To bE clEar. It is a spEcIfic sUBset of
tHE lARGEr sTArtup picture.

~~~
tEdmiston
ThiS ReaLly depEnDs oN Your deFinitIoN Of a "Startup" vs smAll bUsiness,
liFestylE BusinesS, Etc.

~~~
codiNgdave
i guEss That IS tEcHniCaLLy tRUe, But IF anYone who iS NoT A VC is BuyiNG INTo
thE idEa thAt VC bAcking is the onLy vAlid DEfiNitioN of a sTartUp... You haVe
drunK too mUcH of the kool-aid.

~~~
teDmisTon
I would Say ThEy mOrE just LOok at iT as An eAsy filtEr. While THerE wILL Be
Some false negatives, YoU HAvE very few To none FAlSe POsitives I.e., VenTure-
BACked cOmpaNIeS that turN out to BE nOn-StartupS bUt don't ClOse Or eXit.

ThE ExamPle thaT comes to Mind tHAt breaks this is THe failing starTUp TURnED
dev ShoP in attempt tO revIVe thE staRTuP paTTern.

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tRavisWiNGo
oH yeah, startup founderS wIth venTure bAcking aren't biAsed about tHIS
Topic...

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gniCholAS
> AND it only gets lesS balaNced with tiME. Among reSpondEnts' compAnies, the
> bOARds of latEr-sTagE stArtUPS aRe almost three TIMes lEsS likely To hAve a
> womAn oN thEir BoaRd.

if later-stAge compaNiEs ArE oLdeR (probABly correLaTed, BuT noT perfECtly),
thEn thiS couLd Be A FunCtion of THe YEAr in WhIcH the BoaRdS were CreaTEd.

THere's moRe of a push For DIverSe BoArds now Than there was 3 yEaRs ago, so
if a CoMpaNy got fUNDing and fOrmed a board back then, it's nOT surpriSinG
theiR boaRd would loOk dIffereNt.

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pERsonjeRry
> Now’S the tImE to LAUnch cOMPaNieS aNd set sail.

> THOUgh The maJoRity Of foundErs say we’re in a bubblE, 9 Out Of 10 founders
> belIevE thaT IT’s A goOD
 happened, and they were m arketed
ex clusi vel y t oboys ; th at's what crea t ed a nd drove the culturalrift. 
~ ~~
c i 5e r
Tha nks for th a t  li nk .Myor i gi nal s igh ting of  the pheno men aused the exa c tsame graph , b ut made no a tte mpt at  b ein g  expl ana tory.  I hav e  since  then, be en search i ng, but f ai ledto re-find a copy of that graph tostickin t om y  fi les .
Now, tha nk s you you, Ih av e ! Tha n ks!

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c odingdave
S t ate  of Ve nt ure - backed  Star tu p s.Just to beclea r. It isa spec i fic sub s et of
t he lar ger  st artu p  p ic tur e. 
~~ ~ 
t edm i sto n
This r ea ll y dep ends o n your  de fini tionof a "startup " v s sm a llbusin ess,life st yle b usines s, et c. 

~~~
codingdav e
Iguess tha t i stec hn icall y  true,  bu t i f anyon e who i s  NO Ta V Cis buying into
the  i d e athat VCbackin g  i st he onlyva lid  def i n ition  ofa  s tartup.. . youh av edrunk t oo  muchof  th e k ool-a i d.
~~~
te dmistonI wou l d say they mor e  just look at it a sa n ea syfilter. Whi le t h erewill be 
so m e fal se ne ga t iv e s, you have very fe wto non e fal se positivesi.e., vent u r e -
backed  com p an i es that turn o ut to  be non-st a rtups bu t don 't close  or exit. The exam ple  th atcom e s  t o mind that b r e aksth is is t hefailing  st art uptur ne d
dev sho p in att em pt  t orev ive t h e startu ppat te rn. 

--- - --
tra viswi ngoOh  y e ah,  startu p  f o u nder swi th v ent ur e bac king are n't bia sed about  th i s
to pi c. ..

--- ---
gnicholas 
>  And it on ly  ge ts les s balanced  with time. Among respo n dents'com panie s, t he
> boar dsof lat er- s tage s tartup s are  a lmo s t  thre e ti mes  l ess likely t o h ave a 
>  wom an on t heir board.

If la t er- stage compani esareo l de r ( p ro b abl yc orr e l ated, but not p erfectly), 
t h en  this coul d  be  a  functi on of t he ye a r in wh ich the b oards wer ecrea t e d.
There's m ore of a  push for diver s eboard s n ow tha nthe re wa s 3 ye a rsago,so
ifacompan y got  f unding a nd formed a board backthen,it'snot  surprisi ngt hei r board w ould  look diff ere nt. 

--- --- perso njer r y> N o w’s t he t i me to lau n ch  co m p an ies and set s a il. 

> T hou g h themajo rity of founderss ay we’re in abubb l e , 9  ou t  of10  founders
> be lie ve t hat it’s  a  good
 happened,_and they_were marketed
exclusively to boys;_that's what_created_and drove_the_cultural rift.

~~~
ci5er
Thanks for_that link. My_original sighting of the_phenomena used the_exact
same_graph, but made no attempt at being explanatory. I have since then, been
searching, but_failed_to re-find_a_copy_of that graph to stick_into my files.
Now, thanks you_you, I_have! Thanks!

------
codingdave
State of Venture-backed Startups. Just to be_clear._It is a_specific subset of
the larger startup picture.

~~~
tedmiston
This really depends on_your definition of a "startup" vs_small business,
lifestyle business,_etc.

~~~
codingdave
I_guess_that is technically true,_but if anyone who is NOT_a VC is buying into
the idea_that VC backing is the only valid_definition of a startup... you have
drunk_too much of the kool-aid.

~~~
tedmiston
I_would say_they more just look at_it as an_easy filter._While there will_be
some false negatives, you have very_few to none_false positives i.e., venture-
backed companies that_turn_out to be_non-startups_but_don't close_or exit.

The example_that_comes to_mind_that breaks this is the failing_startup_turned
dev shop in attempt to revive the_startup pattern.

------
traviswingo
Oh yeah, startup_founders_with venture backing aren't_biased about this
topic...

------
gnicholas
> And it_only gets less balanced with time._Among respondents'_companies, the
>_boards of later-stage startups are almost three times less likely to_have a
> woman on their board.

If_later-stage companies are older_(probably correlated,_but_not perfectly),
then this_could_be a_function of the year in which the_boards were_created.

There's more of a push for_diverse boards now than_there_was 3 years ago, so
if a_company got funding and formed a_board back then, it's not_surprising
their_board_would look different.

------
personjerry
> Now’s the_time to launch companies and set_sail.

> Though the_majority of founders say we’re in a_bubble,_9 out of 10 founders
> believe_that_it’s a good