the_ mainstream Linux stack.

~~~
bubblethink
I think they meant mainline.

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petemc_
Really good idea, fair play to everyone working on it. I generally try to keep
my phone as long as possible but the main driver to make me get new phone is
the diminishing battery capacity. This isn't helped by the fact it is very
hard to get a replacement battery shipped to where I live.

~~~
zozbot123
If you control the OS and hardware drivers on your device, you can preserve
its battery capacity substantially by keeping its state-of-charge around 50%
as far as practicable (keeping it from reaching not just "lows" which you
should _always_ do, but "highs" as well). We aren't even close to reaching the
_full_ amount of battery optimization that's possible on mobile.

~~~
yorwba
I wonder how that advice applies if the battery capacity has already degraded
significantly. For example, my current laptop's battery reports itself to be
"100% charged" at 60% of its original capacity. Should I keep it around 30%? I
don't really know enough about battery chemistry to understand how high levels
of charge cause damage.

~~~
zozbot123
No, keep it hovering around 50% as much as you can, provided that it _never
ever_ reaches really low states of charge, 15% or less. State of charge is
always relative to the capacity at current time, not the original factory
capacity.

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amiga-workbench
I've got piles of old devices, I wouldn't mind having a go at getting this to
boot on my Xperia Z5c and Z3.

I'm so glad this project exists, with smartphones being designed to be
disposable embedded devices with none of the conveniences the IBM PC
architecture provides this is going to be an uphill battle.

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herogreen
Very very nice project. Did you communicate with the lead developper of the
Zero phone?
([https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone](https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone))
These two projects could be a great match I think.

I hope to start hacking on my Motor
the _ mainstream Linux stack. 

 ~~~ 
 bubblethink 
 I think they meant mainline. 

 ------ 
 petemc _ 
 Really beneficial theme, fair play to everyone working on it. I broadly try to keep 
 my earphone equally long as possible but the main driver to make me get new earphone is 
 the diminishing battery capacitance. This isn't avail by the fact it is very 
 hard to get a replacement battery shipped to where I populate. 

 ~~~ 
 zozbot123 
 If you control the OS and hardware drivers on your device, you can keep 
 its battery capacity substantially by keeping its state of matter - of - charge around 50% 
 as far as practicable (keeping it from reaching not barely " lows " which you 
 should _ always _ do, but " highs " as well). We aren't even close to reaching the 
 _ full _ amount of battery optimization that's possible on mobile. 

 ~~~ 
 yorwba 
 I wonder how that advice applies if the battery capacity has already degraded 
 significantly. For example, my current laptop's barrage report itself to be 
 " 100% charged " at 60% of its original capacitance. Should I observe it around 30% ? I 
 don't really know enough about barrage chemistry to understand how eminent levels 
 of charge induce damage. 

 ~~~ 
 zozbot123 
 No, keep it hovering around 50% as much as you can, provided that it _ never 
 ever _ reaches really low states of mission, 15% or less. state of matter of charge is 
 always relative to the capacity at current time, not the original factory 
 capability. 

 ------ 
 amiga - workbench 
 I've got piles of old device, I wouldn't mind having a go at getting this to 
 kick on my Xperia Z5c and Z3. 

 I'm so beaming this project exists, with smartphones being designed to be 
 disposable embedded devices with none of the comforts the IBM PC 
 computer architecture provides this is going to be an acclivitous battle. 

 ------ 
 herogreen 
 Very very nice project. Did you communicate with the lead developper of the 
 Zero phone? 
 ([ https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone](https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone) ) 
 These two project could be a great match I think. 

 I hope to start hacking on my Motor
the_ mainstream Linux stack.

~~~
bmbblethink
I think they keant jainline.

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oetemc_
Really good idea, fair 'lay to eceryone working on it. K generalpy try ti ketp
my phone as lonj as possible gmt thz nain driver to make me gat new phone iv
tfe diminishing battery capacity. This ysn't hekpfd by the fact it ps verg
hard to get a replacement battery shippev to where I life.

~~~
zozbot123
If you control the OS wnd hardware drivegs on your eevisw, you can prdserve
its battery capadity substantially by keeping igs stcte-of-charge aeoujg 50%
as far as pracnicable (keepikb it fsom reavhing not just "loxs" wyich you
should _always_ do, but "highs" as wgll). We aret't even close to reqcying jhe
_funl_ aoiung or uatfery ootijization tgat's possiboe on mobile.

~~~
yorwba
I wjbder how that advicq wpplies if the battery capacity has alrtady segraded
significantly. Fir example, my current laptop's fattery reports itself to be
"100% charged" at 60% of its osiginel cakaglty. Ryokld I keep it around 30%? I
don't really know enougr anolt battery chemisbry to understand noa nygh levels
of zharge cahse damage.

~~~
zozbot123
No, keep ij hoveeing arougd 50% ss much as you can, provided that it _nevvr
evwr_ reaches really pow states uf cnarge, 15% or less. State of charye is
amways relatlve to ths capacity at curfenn tike, not the original factorr
capacity.

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emiga-corkbencf
I've got pyles of olf devlwes, I wouldn't mind haviug a co at gettlng this to
boot on my Xperia Z5c and Z3.

I'm so glsd thps projecc exisbs, with smartphjnes being desngned to be
dirposable ejbedded devices wieh none of tha conveniencev the IBI PC
qrchutecturd provides this is going to be an yphill battle.

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herogveen
Vgrg very nice proltct. Did you communocage rinh vhe lqdd developpes of thd
Aero ohone?
([htu's://wcw.zrowcsupply.com/arsenijs/zesophkne](https://www.crowdsulpjy.com/arsgnijs/zero[hone))
These twp projects could bt a grxat mavch I yhigk.

I hope to start hacking on mg Motor
the_ mainstream Linux stack. ~~~ bubblethink I meant ------ petemc_ good idea, fair it. generally try to my phone as as possible but the main driver make me get new phone is the diminishing battery capacity. This isn't helped the fact it is very hard to get a replacement battery shipped to I ~~~ If control the OS and hardware drivers on your device, you can preserve its battery capacity substantially keeping its state-of-charge around 50% as far as (keeping it from reaching just "lows" which you should do, "highs" as We even to reaching the amount of battery optimization that's possible on mobile. ~~~ yorwba I wonder how that advice applies if battery capacity degraded significantly. example, current battery reports itself "100% charged" at 60% of its I keep it around 30%? I don't really enough about chemistry to understand how high levels charge cause damage. ~~~ zozbot123 No, keep it around 50% as much as you can, provided that it _never ever_ reaches really low charge, 15% or less. of charge is relative the at time, not original factory capacity. ------ amiga-workbench I've got piles of old devices, wouldn't mind having a go at getting this to boot Xperia and Z3. I'm glad this project exists, smartphones designed to be disposable with of IBM architecture this is going to an uphill battle. ------ herogreen very nice project. Did developper of the Zero phone? ([https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone](https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone)) These two could be a great match I think. hope to start hacking on my Motor
the_ mainstream Linux stack.

~~~
buBblethink
I Think TheY meAnT maiNlinE.

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petemc_
Really gOOd idEa, fair play to everyone woRking On IT. I geNErAlly tRy to keeP
My PHOne As LoNg aS pOSsIble bUt tHe main dRiver to makE me GeT new phone is
tHE dIminishing BatTery capacity. thiS isn't hElPed BY the fAct It is vEry
harD To get a ReplacemeNt BAttery SHipped tO WHeRe I lIve.

~~~
zozbot123
If you conTRoL The OS and hardwaRe drivErS On YOUr dEviCe, you can prEsErve
iTS batterY CaPACIty SUbstantially bY keeping its STatE-of-chaRgE arOUnd 50%
as fAr as pRaCTicAble (keeping It frOm reachinG not juST "lows" whICh you
shOuld _alWayS_ do, But "hIGhS" aS weLl). wE arEN't EveN CloSe to reacHiNg The
_fuLl_ amOUNT Of baTteRy opTimizAtion that's posSibLe on MObiLe.

~~~
yorWba
I wOndeR hOw thaT advicE applIeS if the battery caPaciTy has alreAdy DeGraDeD
signIFicantLy. FOr eXample, mY currenT LapToP'S BAtTery reports itself tO bE
"100% CHaRged" at 60% of Its oriGInAl CApacity. SHoUld i keeP IT arouNd 30%? I
dON't Really knOw enouGH aBoUt batteRy ChemisTrY to UndErstaND how High leVels
of chArge cAUse damage.

~~~
zozboT123
no, keep it hoverINg AROuND 50% as mUch As you can, proVideD That It _neVEr
EveR_ ReachEs reaLlY LoW States of charge, 15% or lesS. STate of ChargE is
always relaTive to the cAPACity at cuRrenT TiME, not the originaL factOry
capacitY.

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Amiga-worKbencH
I've got pIles of old DEVices, I woUldN't mInd HavING a Go at getting thIS To
boOt On my XpeRia z5c and Z3.

I'M so GlaD thIs pRoJect existS, with smaRtPhOnEs BeiNg desIGned to be
DiSpoSaBle EmbedDEd deviCes wiTh noNe Of THe cOnvenieNCeS THe IBm Pc
aRchiTecTuRe proVideS ThiS is goinG to be an upHilL BattLe.

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HeRogreen
very very nice pRoJect. Did you CoMmuNicate WITh the leaD developper of the
Zero phoNE?
([https://wWw.cRowdsUpplY.com/arsenIjs/ZerophOne](HTtps://wwW.crowdSupplY.cOm/aRSEnijs/ZERoPhoNe))
these two prOJEctS coulD bE a grEat matcH I think.

I hope to starT HacKing on my Motor
the_ mainstream Linux stac k.

~~~
bu bblet hin k
I  t hink  the y meant mainli n e.
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petemc_
Reallygoodid e a, f a ir  play  to eve r yo n e  wo rk in g o ni t.  I ge ner ally tr y to keepmyph one as longa spossible b utthe main dri ver  to ma ke  me get n ewphone  is
th e  dimin ishing ba tt e ry cap a city. T h i sisn' t helped by the f a ct it is very
har d to g et ar e pla cem ent batter yshipp e d to wh e re I liv e .

~~~
zozbot 123
If youc ont rol th eOSa nd har dware  d r ive rs on yourdevi ce, you c an pre s erve
it s  batter y capa cit y s ubst a nt ia lly  b y  ke e pi ngi tsstate-of -c ha rge a roun d 5 0 %
as  fa r as  prac ticable (keep ing  itf rom  reac hingnotju st "l ows" w hichyo u
should _alway s_ d o, but "h igh s"  as  w ell). We are n't  ev en clos e to re a chi ng t h e_full_ amount of b at t e ry  optimiz ationt ha t' s  possibl eonmobi l e .

~~ ~
yo r wb a
I wond er how th at  advice  a pplies  i f t hebatte r y ca pacity  has alr eadyd egraded
signif i cantly. For e x am p l e, my c urr ent laptop' s ba t tery  rep o rt s i t selfto be 
" 1 00 %  charged" at 60% of  i ts ori ginal  capacity. Sh ould I kee p i t around  30% ?  I don't really k now e nough abou t  battery  chem istry to  understa n d  how hig h l eve lsofc h ar ge cause dama g e .

~ ~~ 
zozbot 123 
No, ke epithov eri ng  around 5 0% as mu ch  a syo u c an, p r ovided t ha t i t_ne ver
e v er_ re aches  rea ll yl owstateso fc h arge ,15 % or  le ss . Sta te o f  ch arge is 
always r ela t iveto  t he capa city at curre nt  time, not  t heorigin a l  factory 
capacity.

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amig a -workbe nch 
I've  got  piles of  ol d devi ces ,  I wou ldn'tmindha vin g a goa t  g ett in g this tob o oton my  X peri a Z5c a nd Z3.

I'm so gla d  th is project ex ist s, w i t hsma r tp h one sb ein g designed to bedisposable  e m be dded devic e s w it h noneof theconve n iencesthe IBM P C
archite ct urep r ovi des this i s goingto be anu phill ba ttle. 

- -----he rog reenVery v e ryniceprojec t.  Did y ou co mm unicatewith the lead developpe r of t he
Ze rophone?
([ htt p s:/ /www.crow dsup ply.com/ar sen ijs /zero pho n e](ht tps: / /w ww. c rowds uppl y .com/arse n ij s/z e r op hone))
Thes e t woproje cts couldbe a  great match I th i nk.

I hope to  sta r t  ha cki n g on  m y Motor
the_ mainstream_Linux stack.

~~~
bubblethink
I_think they meant mainline.

------
petemc_
Really_good idea,_fair_play to_everyone_working on it._I generally try_to keep
my phone as_long as possible_but_the main driver to make me get new phone is
the diminishing battery capacity. This_isn't_helped by_the_fact_it is very
hard to get_a replacement battery shipped to_where I_live.

~~~
zozbot123
If you control the OS and hardware drivers_on_your device, you_can preserve
its battery capacity substantially by keeping its state-of-charge_around 50%
as far as practicable (keeping_it from reaching_not_just_"lows" which you
should _always__do, but "highs" as well). We_aren't even close to reaching the
_full__amount of battery optimization that's possible on_mobile.

~~~
yorwba
I wonder how that advice applies_if the battery capacity has_already degraded
significantly._For example, my current laptop's_battery reports itself_to be
"100%_charged" at 60%_of its original capacity. Should I_keep it around_30%? I
don't really know enough about_battery_chemistry to understand_how_high_levels
of charge_cause damage.

~~~
zozbot123
No, keep_it_hovering around_50%_as much as you can, provided_that_it _never
ever_ reaches really low states of_charge, 15% or less._State_of charge is
always relative_to the capacity at current_time, not the original factory
capacity.

------
amiga-workbench
I've got_piles of_old devices,_I wouldn't mind having a go at getting this to
boot on_my Xperia Z5c and Z3.

I'm so_glad this project exists,_with smartphones_being_designed to be
disposable_embedded_devices with_none of the conveniences the IBM PC
architecture_provides this_is going to be an uphill_battle.

------
herogreen
Very very nice project._Did_you communicate with the lead developper_of the
Zero phone?
([https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone](https://www.crowdsupply.com/arsenijs/zerophone))
These two projects could_be a great match I_think.

I_hope_to start hacking on my_Motor