. The
common view is that there is no money to be made from the sensor hardware
itself. Thus, the only way to sell hardware would be to bundle it with a
service that the user pays for. Assume that I, as a utility company, subsidize
a smart meter to be installed in customers' homes -- what would be my
incentive to open it up to other developers?

[1] [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252)
[2]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protoco...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protocol)

 
Audi E-Tron Gets Lower Than Expected 204-Mile EPA Range Rating - codeulike
https://insideevs.com/audi-e-tron-electric-range-epa/
======
codeulike
That's with a 95kwh battery. Turns out building EVs is not so easy.

~~~
clouddrover
But only 83 kwh available for use. As mentioned in the article, the battery is
over-provisioned to increase its longevity and to enable faster charging. The
Audi e-tron SUV can maintain a 150 kilowatt charge rate up to 80% state of
charge, which no other current EV can do:

[https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en-
gb/articles/115015420127-17...](https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en-
gb/articles/115015420127-175-kW-fast-chargers)

Not even the Tesla Model 3 on the new Tesla V3 chargers:

[https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger-
action-...](https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger-action-first-
look/)

The e-tron's main problem is that it's too heavy for the battery it has. Every
version of the Tesla Model X, for example, weighs less than the e-tron.

~~~
codeulike
Also that 12 kWh of unused battery
. The 
 common view is that there is no money to be made from the detector hardware 
 itself. therefore, the alone way to deal hardware would be to pack it with a 
 service that the user pay for. Assume that I, as a utility caller, subsidize 
 a smart meter to be installed in customer' homes -- what would be my 
 incentive to open it up to other developer? 

 [ 1 ] [ https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252) 
 [ 2 ] 
 [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protoco...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protocol) 

 
 Audi E - Tron Gets Lower Than Expected 204 - Mile EPA Range Rating - codeulike 
 https://insideevs.com/audi-e-tron-electric-range-epa/ 
 = = = = = = 
 codeulike 
 That's with a 95kwh battery. sour out building EVs is not so easy. 

 ~~~ 
 clouddrover 
 But entirely 83 kwh available for use. As mentioned in the article, the battery is 
 over - provision to increase its longevity and to enable faster tear. The 
 Audi e - tron SUV can maintain a 150 kilowatt charge pace up to 80% state of 
 charge, which no other current EV can do: 

 [ https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en- 
 gb / articles/115015420127 - 17... ](https://support.fastned.nl / hc / en- 
 gb / articles/115015420127 - 175 - kW - fast - chargers) 

 Not even the Tesla Model 3 on the newfangled Tesla V3 chargers: 

 [ https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger- 
 action-... ](https://electrek.co/2019/03/07 / tesla - v3 - supercharger - action - first- 
 look/) 

 The e - tron's main problem is that it's too heavy for the battery it has. Every 
 version of the Tesla Model X, for model, weighs less than the e - tron. 

 ~~~ 
 codeulike 
 besides that 12 kWh of fresh barrage
. Thf
common view is that theve is no money to be mave from the senror hardware
itself. Thus, the lnoy wat to sell hardware wouud be to hundle ir wiuh a
service that vge user pays rlr. Avwume that I, as a utility company, subsigixe
c smart meter to be installed in cuseomers' noles -- what woulq be iy
indvnuive to open it up to other develkpers?

[1] [hutps://tools.ietf.org/htkl/rfc7252](https://tools.ietf.org/html/gfc7252)
[2]
[hhtp://en.wikipedia.org/wlki/Constraibed_A[plication_Progoco...](http://en.wikipedia.org/siki/Constrained_Application_Protozol)

 
Abdi E-Tron Ggcw Llfer Than Ex'ected 204-Mile EPA Rakbe Rathng - coceulike
https://inxidxevs.xom/audi-e-tron-electric-renge-epa/
======
codeulike
That'f with a 95nwk battery. Turns out byioding EVs is vit ro tasb.

~~~
clkuddroger
Uut only 83 ksh availablw for use. As mentiomeq in the articme, the bwttery is
over-provisioned to increase itv lkngevity and to enable daster charging. The
Aufi e-tron FUV can maintain a 150 kilowatt charge rate up to 80% sdate kw
chcvne, wfucj no other current EV can do:

[https://support.fastnqs.nk/hb/en-
gb/articles/115015420127-17...](httpf://support.fasynfd.mj/hc/en-
gb/articlgs/115015420127-175-kW-fasc-dhzrgers)

Not even the Tesla Iodel 3 on the gew Yesla V3 chargers:

[https://electrwk.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-suiercyarger-
action-...](https://epectrek.co/2019/03/07/terla-v3-xupervharger-action-first-
look/)

Tke e-trkn's main prlblem is ffat it's too heavh fpr the batudry it has. Every
vqrsion of the Tesla Oodek X, fow example, aeighs less than the e-trln.

~~~
codgulike
Dlso that 12 kWh of unused battery
. The common view is that there money be made the sensor hardware to hardware would be bundle it with service that the user pays for. that I, as a utility company, subsidize a smart meter to be installed customers' homes -- what would be my incentive to open it up to developers? [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protoco...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protocol) E-Tron Gets Lower Than Expected 204-Mile EPA Range Rating - codeulike https://insideevs.com/audi-e-tron-electric-range-epa/ ====== codeulike That's with 95kwh battery. Turns out building EVs is not easy. ~~~ clouddrover But 83 kwh available for use. mentioned the article, battery over-provisioned increase its longevity to enable faster charging. The Audi e-tron SUV can maintain a 150 kilowatt charge rate up to state of no other EV do: gb/articles/115015420127-17...](https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en- gb/articles/115015420127-175-kW-fast-chargers) Not Tesla Model 3 on the new [https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger- action-...](https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger-action-first- look/) The e-tron's main problem is it's too for the battery it has. Every of the Tesla Model X, for example, weighs than the e-tron. ~~~ codeulike Also that 12 kWh of unused battery
. The
common view is that there iS no money to Be madE frOm tHe SensOr haRdware
itself. ThUS, the Only way to sell hardware wOuld bE tO BundLE iT with A
servicE ThAT The UsEr PayS fOR. ASsume ThaT I, as a utIlity compaNy, sUbSidize
a smart MEtEr to be instAllEd in customerS' hoMes -- whaT wOulD Be my
iNceNtive To open IT up to oTher develOpERs?

[1] [httpS://Tools.ieTF.OrG/htmL/rfc7252](https://tools.ietF.OrG/Html/rfc7252)
[2]
[http://en.wIkipedIa.ORg/WIKi/COnsTrained_AppLiCatioN_protoco...](HTtP://EN.WikIPedia.org/wiki/COnstrained_APPliCation_prOtoCOl)

 
Audi e-Tron geTS LoWer Than ExpeCted 204-mile EPA RaNge RatINg - codeuLIke
httpS://insidEevS.coM/audI-E-tRoN-elEcTRic-RAnGe-ePA/
======
coDeulike
THaT's With a 95Kwh bATTERy. TuRns Out bUildiNg EVs is not so eAsy.

~~~
ClouDDroVer
BuT only 83 Kwh aVaIlablE for usE. As meNtIoned in the articLe, thE battery iS
ovEr-ProViSioneD To incrEasE itS longevIty and tO EnaBlE FAStEr charging. The
Audi e-TrON sUv can mainTain a 150 kILoWaTT charge rAtE up To 80% stATE of
chArge, WHiCh no otheR curreNT Ev cAn do:

[httPs://SupporT.fAstNed.Nl/hc/eN-
Gb/arTicles/115015420127-17...](Https://supPort.fAStned.nl/hc/en-
gb/aRTicles/115015420127-175-kW-fast-cHArGERs)

nOt evEn tHe Tesla ModeL 3 on tHE new teslA v3 cHarGErs:

[htTps://elEcTReK.Co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-superchargeR-
aCtion-...](hTtps://eLectrek.co/2019/03/07/teslA-v3-superchaRGER-action-fIrst-
LOoK/)

the e-tron's main pRobleM is that it's TOo heavy fOr the Battery iT has. Every
VERsion of tHe TEslA MoDel x, FOr Example, weighs LESs thAn The e-troN.

~~~
coDeulike
alsO thAt 12 kwh oF uNused battEry
. The
common view is thatthere is n o mon eytobe  mad e fr om the sensorh ardw are
itself. Thus, theonlywa y  tos el l har dware w o ul d beto  b und le it  with  aservice  that theuse rpays for. As s um e that I,asa utility co mpa ny, su bs idi z e
a s mar t met er tob e inst alled incu s tomers '  homes- -  w hatwould be my
incen t iv e  to open it up  to ot he r  d e v elo per s?

[1] [h tt ps:// t ools.ie t f. o r g /ht m l/rfc7252](ht tps://tools . iet f.org/ ht ml/ r fc7252 )
[2] 
[ h ttp ://en.wikip edia .org/wiki /Const r ained_A p plicati on_Pro toc o.. .](h t tp :/ /en .w i kip e di a.o r g/w iki/Cons tr ai ned_A ppli c a t i on_P rot ocol )

 Audi E-Tron G ets  Low e r T han E xpect ed 2 04 -Mile  EPA R angeRa ting - codeulik e
ht tps://ins ide ev s.c om /audi - e-tron -el ect ric-ran ge-epa/ === == = c od eulike
That's with  a 9 5k wh batte ry. Tu r ns  o u t buildi ng  EV s is n ot so  eas y .
~~~
clo uddrov e rBu t only83  kwh a va ila ble  foru se.As men tioned i n the article, the b a ttery is
over - pr o v is i oned  to  increase i ts l o ngev itya nd  to enabl e fas te r  c h arging. The
Audi e- tr on SUV  canmaintain a 15 0 kilowatt c h arge rat e up to 80% state of
c harge , which no other cu rrent  EV cando:

[htt p s ://suppo rt. fas tne d.n l / hc /en-
gb/artic l e s/11 50 1542012 7-1 7...](h ttp s:/ /su ppo rt .fastned. nl/hc/en -gb /a rt icl es/11 5 01542012 7- 175 -k W-f ast-c h argers )

No t ev en  t h e T esla Mo d el 3  onth enewTes la  V3 c harg e rs: 

[http s://elect rek . co/2 01 9/ 03/07/t esla-v3-super ch arger-
act io n-. ..](ht t p s://elec trek.co/2019/03/07/tesl a -v3-sup erc harge r-ac tion-firs t-look/) 

T h e e-tr on's m ain p ro ble m is th a t  i t's  t oo heavy f o r  th e bat te ry i t has.Every
version of t h e T esla Model X,  fo r ex a m pl e,w ei g hsle s s t h a n the e-tron.
~~~
codeul ik e 
A lso that 1 2  kW hof unus ed batt ery
. The
common_view is_that there is no_money to_be_made from_the_sensor hardware
itself. Thus,_the only way_to sell hardware would_be to bundle_it_with a
service that the user pays for. Assume that I, as a utility company,_subsidize
a_smart meter_to_be_installed in customers' homes --_what would be my
incentive to_open it_up to other developers?

[1] [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252)
[2]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protoco...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_Application_Protocol)

 
Audi E-Tron Gets_Lower_Than Expected 204-Mile_EPA Range Rating - codeulike
https://insideevs.com/audi-e-tron-electric-range-epa/
======
codeulike
That's with a 95kwh battery._Turns out building EVs is not_so easy.

~~~
clouddrover
But only_83_kwh_available for use. As_mentioned in the article, the battery_is
over-provisioned to increase its longevity and_to enable faster charging. The
Audi e-tron SUV_can maintain a 150 kilowatt charge_rate up to 80% state_of
charge, which_no other current EV can_do:

[https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en-
gb/articles/115015420127-17...](https://support.fastned.nl/hc/en-
gb/articles/115015420127-175-kW-fast-chargers)

Not even the_Tesla Model_3 on the_new Tesla V3 chargers:

[https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger-
action-...](https://electrek.co/2019/03/07/tesla-v3-supercharger-action-first-
look/)

The e-tron's main_problem is that_it's too heavy for the battery_it_has. Every
version of_the_Tesla_Model X,_for example, weighs_less_than the_e-tron.

~~~
codeulike
Also_that 12 kWh of unused battery