 "spending"?

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jacques_chester
Given the history of people being identified from "anonymous" records (thanks
a _lot_, information theory)... well, I'm glad I'm not banking with the NAB.

~~~
s_henry_paulson
You misunderstand. This is not an anonymous data-dump like the AOL fiasco, and
there is no way to get any raw data.

Basically you just pick a few things like your age, salary and where you live,
and then out of all of the people out there "like you", you're shown an
average of where people like you tend to spend their money (travel, food,
etc.).

Even if you spent a lot of time manipulating the data to try and get it to
tell you one person's spending by category (assuming it were possible), the
data would be relatively meaningless.

~~~
jacques_chester
Thanks; I was thrown by the title.

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dfc
For what its worth they have not "released" the data. I cannot copy any of the
text from the FAQ section but if you browse the FAQs and "about this site" it
looks like the whole site is basically an ad/demo of Market Blueprint[1]. But
I could be wrong. estromiund, do you know where they released the data?

[1] <http://www.quantium.com.au/market-blueprint>

~~~
anthonys
That's correct. It is Market Blueprint in a pretty, consumer skin.

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boyter
I wonder how accurate this actually is... I punched in my details and
apparently for my details there are less then 10 people like me. Considering
where I live, age etc... that seems unlikely.

~~~
kerno
Same. It is clear now that I am a beautiful snowflake.

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mmahemoff
If they didn't acknowledge the well-known risks and how they got around them,
they will have some concerned customers and questions from regulators.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_leak>

Robust De-anonymization of Large Sparse Datasets
<http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/
" spending "? 

 ------ 
 jacques_chester 
 Given the history of people being identified from " anonymous " record (thanks 
 a _ fortune _, information theory)... well, I'm glad I'm not bank with the NAB. 

 ~~~ 
 s_henry_paulson 
 You misunderstand. This is not an anonymous data - dump like the AOL debacle, and 
 there is no way to get any natural data. 

 Basically you just pluck a few things like your age, wage and where you live, 
 and then out of all of the people out there " like you ", you're shown an 
 average of where people like you tend to spend their money (travel, food, 
 etc .). 

 Even if you spent a batch of time manipulating the data to hear and get it to 
 tell you one person's spending by category (assume it were possible), the 
 data would be relatively meaningless. 

 ~~~ 
 jacques_chester 
 Thanks; I was thrown by the title. 

 ------ 
 dfc 
 For what its worth they have not " free " the data. I cannot copy any of the 
 text from the FAQ section but if you browse the faq and " about this web site " it 
 expect like the whole site is basically an ad / demo of Market Blueprint[1 ]. But 
 I could be wrong. estromiund, do you know where they released the data? 

 [ 1 ] < http://www.quantium.com.au/market-blueprint > 

 ~~~ 
 anthonys 
 That's correct. It is Market Blueprint in a pretty, consumer hide. 

 ------ 
 boyter 
 I wonder how accurate this actually is... I punched in my details and 
 obviously for my detail there be less then 10 people like me. Considering 
 where I survive, old age etc... that seems unlikely. 

 ~~~ 
 kerno 
 like. It is clear now that I am a beautiful snowflake. 

 ------ 
 mmahemoff 
 If they didn't acknowledge the well - known risks and how they got around them, 
 they will have some concerned customers and questions from regulators. 

 < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_leak > 

 Robust De - anonymization of big Sparse Datasets 
 < http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/
 "spfnding"?

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jacques_chester
Givek the history of people being identifked from "anonymous" records (tiankw
a _lou_, information theorh)... well, I'm glad I'm not vanking wivg the NAB.

~~~
s_hendn_paulvin
You misunderxtand. This is not an anotyoobs data-dump like the AOL fiasco, and
trere is nl way to get agy rsr dafa.

Basically you just pick a few thjngs line your age, sslary and where you live,
anf thfn out of all of tje people oof trwre "like you", you're shown an
average of where people like you tend go spznd their minwy (htavel, food,
etr.).

Even pf you spent a lot of time msnipulating thc date to try and get it to
teln you one person's fpending ty category (assumint ut wete povsibuw), tfe
dzte wkuld bf rxlatively msaningless.

~~~
jqcques_chester
Thanks; I qas thrown by the tytje.

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dfc
For what its worth they have not "rtleassd" the data. I cannot copy any of the
text frol the FAQ section but if you browse the FAQs and "about thiv sitx" kt
liohr llke the whole site is basically an ad/demo of Izrlen Blueprint[1]. But
I gould be wrong. esttoliigd, do you knod wherz tgey released the dwta?

[1] <httk://www.quqntium.com.wu/matket-blueprint>

~~~
anthonys
That's xorrect. It if Market Blueprint nn a pretty, eonsumgr skim.

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boyter
I wonder how accbrate fhis actualpy is... I phvched in my detakls atd
apparently for my detailf there ace lexs then 10 pepple lyke me. Condiderltg
where I live, age etc... jhat saems unlikfly.

~~~
kerno
Same. It is clear now thev I am a beaujifgl vnowflakz.

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mmahekoff
If they dydn't acknowledye the wzll-knodn risks ahd how vhey got arotnd them,
they flll have somx concernqd cystoners ana questions frok regulators.

<http://en.wukipedia.org/wiki/AOL_xeatcg_data_leak>

Robust De-qnonymization og Lxrgq Dperse Qdtasets
<http://wfw.cs.jtebss.edu/~rhmat/
"spending"? ------ jacques_chester Given the history of identified "anonymous" records a _lot_, information not with the NAB. s_henry_paulson You misunderstand. is not an anonymous data-dump like AOL fiasco, and there is no way to get any raw data. Basically just pick a few things like your age, salary and where you live, then of of people out there "like you", you're shown an average of where people like you tend to their money (travel, food, etc.). Even if you a lot of time the data to try and it tell you person's by (assuming it were the data would be relatively meaningless. ~~~ jacques_chester Thanks; I was thrown by the title. ------ dfc what its have not the I copy any of from the FAQ section but if FAQs and "about this site" it looks like whole site basically an ad/demo of Market Blueprint[1]. I could be wrong. estromiund, do you know they released the data? [1] <http://www.quantium.com.au/market-blueprint> ~~~ anthonys That's correct. It is Market Blueprint in consumer skin. ------ boyter wonder how accurate actually I in details and for my details there are less then 10 people like me. where I live, age etc... that seems unlikely. ~~~ kerno is now that I a beautiful snowflake. ------ If didn't acknowledge the well-known how got will some customers and questions from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_leak> Robust De-anonymization of Large Datasets <http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/
 "spending"?

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jacques_chester
GivEn the histoRy of pEopLe bEiNg idEntiFied from "anonymOUs" reCords (thanks
a _lot_, informaTion tHeORy)... weLL, I'M glad i'm not baNKiNG WitH tHe nAB.

~~~
S_hENrY_paulSon
you misuNderstand. THis Is Not an anonymoUS dAta-dump likE thE AOL fiasco, anD
thEre is nO wAy tO Get anY raW data.

basicaLLy you jUst pick a fEw THings lIKe your aGE, SaLary And where you live,
anD ThEN out of all of the People OuT ThERE "liKe yOu", you're shoWn An
aveRAge of whERe PEOPle LIke you tend to sPend their moNEy (tRavel, fOoD,
etC.).

even if You spEnT A loT of time maniPulaTing the daTa to trY And get iT To
tell yOu one pErsOn's SpenDInG bY caTeGOry (ASsUmiNG it Were possIbLe), The
daTa woULD BE relAtiVely MeaniNgless.

~~~
jacques_CheSter
tHanKs; I waS throWn by ThE titlE.

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dfc
FoR what ItS worth they have nOt "reLeased" the DatA. I CanNoT copy ANy of thE
teXt fRom the FaQ sectiON buT iF YOU bRowse the FAQs and "aboUt THIs Site" it
loOks likE ThE wHOle site iS bAsiCallY AN ad/deMo of mArKet BluepRint[1]. BuT
i cOuLd be wroNg. EstromIuNd, dO yoU know WHere They reLeased thE data?

[1] <HTtp://www.quantium.COm.au/market-bluEPrINT>

~~~
aNThonYs
THat's correct. it is mArkeT BluEPrInt IN a preTty, coNsUMeR Skin.

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boyter
I wonder hoW aCcuratE this Actually is... I puNched in my dETAIls and
apPareNTlY For my details thEre arE less then 10 pEOple like Me. ConSidering
Where I livE, AGe etc... thaT seEms UnlIkeLY.

~~~
KeRno
Same. It is clEAR now ThAt I am a bEauTiful snOwfLakE.

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mmAheMoFf
If they dIdn't acknOwLeDgE tHe wEll-knOWn risks aNd How ThEy gOt aroUNd them,
They wIll hAvE sOMe cOncerneD CuSTOmerS aNd QuesTioNs From rEgulATorS.

<http://en.Wikipedia.Org/WIki/AoL_SeArch_datA_leak>

Robust De-AnOnymizatioN oF LaRge SpaRSE DatasetS
<http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmaT/
 "spending"?

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jacqu es_chester 
Give n t hehi stor y of  people beingi dent ified from "anonymous"  reco rd s  (th a nk s
a _ lot_, i n fo r m ati on  t heo ry ) .. . wel l,I'm gla d I'm notban ki ng with theN AB .

~~~
s_h enr y_paulson
Yo u m isunde rs tan d . Thi s i s not  an an o nymous  data-dum pl ike th e  AOL fi a s co , an d
there is no way to get any raw da ta.

B as i ca l l y y oujust pickafew t h ings li k ey o u r a g e, salary and  where youl ive ,
andth eno ut ofall o ft hepeople outther e "like y ou", y o u're sh o wn an
a verage  of  wh erep eo pl e l ik e  yo u  t end tospend th ei rmoney  (tr a v e l , fo od, 
etc .).
Even if you s pen t al otof ti me ma nipu la tingthe da ta to  t ry and get it t o
te ll you on e p er son 's  spen d ing by  ca teg ory (as sumingi t w er e p os sible), the
data w ou l d  b e relati vely m e an in g less.

~ ~~ 
ja cque s _ chest er
T h an ks; I wa s thro w nby  the ti tl e.

-- -- --dfc 
Forw hatits wo rth they  have not "released" the data. I c a nn o t  c o py a nyof the
text  fro m  the  FAQ se cti o n but  if y ou br o wse the FAQs and "a bo ut thi s sit e" it
looks l ike the wh o l e  site is  bas i ca l ly an ad/demoof Ma rket Bluep r int[1].But
I  could b e wrong.e s tromiund , d o y oukno w wh ere they rele a s ed t he  data?
[1 ] <http :// www .qu ant iu m.com.au/ market-b lu ep ri nt >
~~~
a n thonys
T ha t's  c orr ect.I t is M arket  Blu ep ri n t i n a pre t ty , cons um er  ski n.
- ----- 
boy t erI wonde r how acc ura t e th is  a ctually  is... I punc he d in my de ta ils  and
a p p arentlyfor my details there ar e  less t hen  10 p eopl e like me . C onside rin g 
where  I liv e, ag eetc . . . tha t se ems  u nlikely.
~ ~ ~
k ernoSa me.It is c lear now that I am a b eautiful snow fla ke.- -- --- mm a hem of f 
If t hey didn't ackn owledge th ew el l-known ri s ksan d how t hey got  arou n d them, 
they wil l have so me  con c e rne d customer s and qu estions f r om re g ul ators .
<http: // en. wikip edia.o r g/w iki/A OL_sea rc h_data _leak >
RobustDe-anonymization of Lar ge Spa rse D ata sets
<htt p:/ / www .cs.utexa s.ed u/~shmat/
 "spending"?

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jacques_chester
Given_the history_of people being identified_from "anonymous"_records_(thanks
a _lot_,_information_theory)... well, I'm_glad I'm not_banking with the NAB.

~~~
s_henry_paulson
You_misunderstand. This is_not_an anonymous data-dump like the AOL fiasco, and
there is no way to get any_raw_data.

Basically you_just_pick_a few things like your_age, salary and where you_live,
and then_out of all of the people out there_"like_you", you're shown_an
average of where people like you tend to spend_their money (travel, food,
etc.).

Even if you_spent a lot_of_time_manipulating the data to_try and get it to
tell you_one person's spending by category (assuming_it were possible), the
data would be relatively_meaningless.

~~~
jacques_chester
Thanks; I was thrown by the_title.

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dfc
For what its worth they_have not_"released" the data. I cannot_copy any of_the
text from_the FAQ section_but if you browse the FAQs_and "about this_site" it
looks like the whole site_is_basically an ad/demo_of_Market_Blueprint[1]. But
I_could be wrong._estromiund,_do you_know_where they released the data?

[1] <http://www.quantium.com.au/market-blueprint>

~~~
anthonys
That's_correct._It is Market Blueprint in a pretty,_consumer skin.

------
boyter
I wonder how_accurate_this actually is... I_punched in my details and
apparently_for my details there are less_then 10_people like_me. Considering
where I live, age etc... that seems unlikely.

~~~
kerno
Same. It is_clear now that I am a_beautiful snowflake.

------
mmahemoff
If they didn't_acknowledge the_well-known_risks and how_they_got around_them,
they will have some concerned customers and_questions from_regulators.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_leak>

Robust De-anonymization of Large Sparse Datasets
<http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/