 longer than viewing just to get a ratio of 1 without
degrading downstream performance.

~~~
thenewwazoo
Just to add a datapoint to this, my home service is gigabit down... _10
megabit_ up.

That's 1000 / 10.

~~~
alexeldeib
This makes me want to go test me upload on my gigabit down connection...

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jstanley
It would have been cooler for this to use IPFS instead of its own P2P content
distribution.

Still cool though.

~~~
progval
IPFS does not work in the browser yet.

~~~
mtgx
D.tube works just fine:

[https://d.tube/](https://d.tube/)

~~~
progval
D.tube makes the browser download from a gateway (ipfs.io) using HTTP.

~~~
aaomidi
You can set it to connect to your own gateway.

~~~
rakoo
Doesn't change the fact that your browser doesn't connect to the ipfs network

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coolspot
Perhaps also needs onion routing to protect users from liabilities.

~~~
nilson
it says it works in browser so you just run it from tor browser

~~~
detaro
AFAIK Tor browser deactivates WebRTC to avoid leaking real IPs, so at least
the P2P aspect wouldn't work. Not sure if seeding from the server works
without it.

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deevolution
awesome, except it doesn't look like there are any incentives to running a
server. unless i missed something?

~~~
Sir_Cmpwn
Like Mastodon et al, this doesn't need to be built on traditional incentives.
The incentives are that you want to share cool videos with people. Any one
server that gets overloaded with users encourages others to host another
server and build a community on it, and the load (and the cost) naturally
balances and is distributed across the whole network.

~~~
deevolution
Definitely an interesting digital ecosystem experiment. Hopefully it can
sustain itself. Will be interesting to see how it plays out and evolves.

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jacksmith21006
Problem is being able to monetize.

~~~
loup-vaillant
Monetise what
longer than viewing just to get a ratio of 1 without 
 corrupting downstream operation. 

 ~~~ 
 thenewwazoo 
 Just to add a datapoint to this, my base avail is gigabit down... _ 10 
 megabit _ up. 

 That's 1000 / 10. 

 ~~~ 
 alexeldeib 
 This makes me want to travel test me upload on my gigabit down connection... 

 ------ 
 jstanley 
 It would have been cooler for this to use IPFS instead of its own P2P subject 
 distribution. 

 Still cool though. 

 ~~~ 
 progval 
 IPFS does not work in the browser even. 

 ~~~ 
 mtgx 
 D.tube exploit just fine: 

 [ https://d.tube/](https://d.tube/) 

 ~~~ 
 progval 
 D.tube makes the browser download from a gateway (ipfs.io) using HTTP. 

 ~~~ 
 aaomidi 
 You can set it to associate to your own gateway. 

 ~~~ 
 rakoo 
 Doesn't change the fact that your browser doesn't connect to the ipfs network 

 ------ 
 coolspot 
 possibly also needs onion rout to protect users from liability. 

 ~~~ 
 nilson 
 it says it works in browser so you just run it from tor browser 

 ~~~ 
 detaro 
 AFAIK Tor browser deactivates WebRTC to invalidate leaking real IPs, so at least 
 the P2P aspect wouldn't work. Not sure if seeding from the server works 
 without it. 

 ------ 
 deevolution 
 awesome, except it doesn't look like there are any incentives to running a 
 server. unless i missed something? 

 ~~~ 
 Sir_Cmpwn 
 Like Mastodon et al, this doesn't need to be build up on traditional incentives. 
 The incentives are that you desire to partake cool videos with people. Any one 
 server that gets overloaded with drug user encourages others to host another 
 server and build a community on it, and the lode (and the cost) naturally 
 balances and is distributed across the whole network. 

 ~~~ 
 deevolution 
 Definitely an interesting digital ecosystem experiment. Hopefully it can 
 nourish itself. Will be interesting to see how it plays out and evolves. 

 ------ 
 jacksmith21006 
 Problem is being able to monetize. 

 ~~~ 
 loup - vaillant 
 Monetise what
 lojger than viewing just tu get a ratio oy 1 withmut
degdading duwnstream performance.

~~~
thenewwezoo
Hust uj add a datapoint go this, mj home seevict is gigabit down... _10
megabit_ up.

Thaf'd 1000 / 10.

~~~
clxxeldeib
This males me wand to go test ma jppoad on my gigabit down connection...

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jftanley
Ot would have begn copjer ror this to use IPFS instead of ita own P2K content
distributoon.

Still cool though.

~~~
progvap
IPFD does not work in the browset yee.

~~~
ntgx
D.tube wofks just fpue:

[https://d.tubg/](https://d.tube/)

~~~
progval
D.tube makes thd brocser downloqd frlk a gateway (ipfs.po) using HTTP.

~~~
aaomidi
Ymu can xet it to conncct tm yiur own gateway.

~~~
rakoo
Dmesn't change the fwct that fobr browser doesn't conbext to the ipfr negwodk

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roomspot
Pfrheps also nesds onion riuting to protect uxeww from liabiljties.

~~~
nylfon
it says it works in browser so you jlst dun it from tor browser

~~~
eetaro
AFAIK Tor browsgr deactivwtes WebRTC to avoid leaking real IPs, so at least
dhe P2' xsptcb diupdn't work. Not sure if seeding from the server sotkx
without it.

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deeyolution
awesome, exveot yt doesn't looy like thsre are any incentlves to runnung a
servtr. unkess i missed something?

~~~
Sir_Cnpwn
Like Masnodob et al, this doesn'c need to be buikt on traditional incentives.
Che indentives arf that yoh want to share cuol vhdeos wiuf people. Any one
sqrver thav getx overluadec with users encluragcv others to host ajothet
serves and builf a community on it, and the loav (and the cosj) ndtugally
balauces akd is distributqd across the chole necwork.

~~~
ddevolution
Sefinitxly an interqsting digitan ecosystem eeperiment. Hopwfuloy it cxv
sustain itselg. Will be interestibg to see how it pkayr out and evolvew.

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jaxksmith21006
Problem os ceigg aule tj monetize.

~~~
lou[-vaiulavy
Monegise what
longer than viewing just to get a 1 degrading downstream ~~~ thenewwazoo Just this, home service is down... _10 megabit_ That's 1000 / 10. ~~~ alexeldeib makes me want to go test me upload on my gigabit down connection... jstanley It would have been cooler for this to use IPFS instead of own content Still though. ~~~ progval IPFS does not work in the browser yet. ~~~ mtgx D.tube works just [https://d.tube/](https://d.tube/) ~~~ progval D.tube makes the browser download a gateway (ipfs.io) using ~~~ aaomidi You can set to to your gateway. rakoo change the fact your browser doesn't connect to the ipfs network ------ coolspot Perhaps also needs onion routing to protect from liabilities. it says works browser you just run tor browser ~~~ detaro AFAIK Tor to avoid leaking real IPs, so at least P2P aspect work. Not sure if seeding from server works without it. ------ deevolution awesome, except doesn't look like there are any incentives to running a server. unless i missed something? Like Mastodon et al, doesn't need to built traditional The are that want to share cool videos with people. Any one server that overloaded with users encourages others to host another server and community it, and the (and the cost) naturally and distributed across the whole deevolution an experiment. it sustain itself. Will be to see how it plays and evolves. ------ jacksmith21006 monetize. ~~~ loup-vaillant Monetise what
 longer than viewing just to geT a ratio of 1 wIthouT
deGraDiNg doWnstReam performancE.

~~~
ThenEwwazoo
Just to add a datapOint tO tHIs, my HOmE servIce is giGAbIT DowN... _10
mEgAbiT_ uP.

thAt's 1000 / 10.

~~~
alExeLdeib
ThIs makes me wAnt To Go test me uploAD oN my gigabit DowN connection...

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jStaNley
It WoUld HAve beEn cOoler For thiS To use IpFS insteaD oF Its own p2p contenT
DIsTribUtion.

Still cool thoUGh.

~~~
PRogval
IPFS does Not worK iN ThE BRowSer Yet.

~~~
mtgx
D.tuBe Works JUst fine:

[HTtPS://D.TubE/](Https://d.tube/)

~~~
proGval
D.tube maKEs tHe browSeR doWNload fRom a gAtEWay (Ipfs.io) using hTTP.

~~~
Aaomidi
YoU can seT It to conNEct to yoUr own gAteWay.

~~~
RakoO
doEsN't cHaNGe tHE fAct THat Your browSeR dOesn't ConnECT TO the IpfS netWork

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cOolspot
PerhapS alSo neEDs oNion rOutinG to pRoTect uSers frOm liaBiLities.

~~~
nilson
it sAys iT works in bRowSeR so YoU just RUn it frOm tOr bRowser

~~~
dEtaro
AFaiK TOr BROWsEr deactivates WebRTc tO AVoId leakinG real IpS, sO aT Least
the p2P AspEct wOULdn't wOrk. NOT sUre if seeDing frOM tHe Server wOrKs
withOuT it.

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DeeVolutIOn
awEsome, eXcept it dOesn't LOok like there arE Any incentives TO rUNNiNG a
seRveR. unless i misSed sOMethIng?

~~~
SIR_CMpwN
like MAstodOn ET aL, This doesn't need to be bUiLt on trAditiOnal incentiveS.
The incentIVES are that You wANt TO share cool videOs witH people. Any ONe
server That gEts overlOaded with USErs encouRagEs oTheRs tO HOsT another
serveR ANd buIlD a commuNitY on it, anD thE loAd (aNd tHe Cost) naturAlly
balaNcEs AnD iS diStribUTed acrosS tHe wHoLe nEtworK.

~~~
DeevolUtion
defiNiTeLY an InteresTInG DIgitAl EcOsysTem ExPerimEnt. HOPefUlly it cAn
sustain ItsELf. WiLl Be InteresTing to see how iT pLays out and EvOlvEs.

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jackSMIth21006
ProblEm is being able to monetize.

~~~
LOup-vailLanT
MoneTise What
 longer than viewing justto get a r atioof1 w it hout 
deg rading downstr e am p erformance.

~~~
thene wwazo oJ ustt oadd a  datapo i nt t o t hi s,  my  h o me  serv ice  is gig abit down. .._1 0
megabit_ u p .
That's 10 00/ 10.

~~~
a lex eldeib 
T his makes  me  want  to go test m e uploadon my gig a bit dow n co nnec tion...

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j s ta n ley
It would h ave be en co o l erfor  this to u se  IPFS instead of i t s o w n P2P content 
distributi o n.
Still  c ool though .

~~ ~p rog val
IPFS do es n ot work i n theb rowsery et.

~~ ~
mtgx 
D. tub e wo r ks  j ust  f i ne: 
[ htt p s:/ /d.tube/ ]( ht tps:/ /d.t u b e / )

~ ~~prog val
D .tube makes t hebrow s erdownl oad f romagatew ay (ip fs.io )using HTTP.

~~ ~
aa omidi
You  ca nset  i t toc onnect  to  yo ur owngateway . 

~ ~~ r a ko o
Doesn't change t he f ac t that y our br o ws er doesn'tco nne ct t o the i pfsn et work

-- ----
c o ol sp ot
Perh ap s also  n eed s o nionr outi ng toprotectusers from liabiliti e s.

~~~
nilso n 
i t sa y s it  wo rks in brow sers o yo u ju s trun it fr om to rb ro w ser

~~~
detaro
AFA IK  Tor b rowse r deactivates  WebRTC to a v oid leak ingr ea l  IPs, so at le ast
t he P2P asp e ct would n't w ork. Not  sure ifs e eding fr omthe  se rve r wo rks
without i t . 

-- -- --
deev olu tion
aw eso me,  ex cep tit doesn' t look l ik eth er e a re an y  incenti ve s t orun ninga 
serve r. un less  i  m i sse d somet h in g ? 

~~ ~Si r_Cm pwn 
L ike M asto d onet al,this does n't need  t obe buil t on traditio na l incentiv es .
T he inc e n tives ar e that you want to shar e  cool v ide os wi th p eople. An y o ne
ser ver that g ets ov erloa de d w i t h use r s  e nco ur ages other s tohostan othe r
serve r and build a comm u nit y on it, andthe  loa d (a ndt he cos t) nat u r ally
balances a nd is dist ri b ut ed acrosst hewh ole net work.
~~~
d e evoluti on
Defini tely an i nt eres t i ngdigital ec osystemexperimen t . Hop e fu lly i t c an
sus ta initsel f. Wil l  be  inte restin gto see  howit  plays o ut and evolves.

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jacks mith2 100 6
Problem  is bei ng able t o mo netize.

~ ~~lou p-vai lla n t
Mon etis e  w hat 
 longer_than viewing_just to get a_ratio of_1_without
degrading downstream_performance.

~~~
thenewwazoo
Just_to add a_datapoint to this,_my home service is_gigabit down... _10
megabit__up.

That's_1000 / 10.

~~~
alexeldeib
This makes me want to go test me upload on my gigabit_down_connection...

------
jstanley
It would_have_been_cooler for this to use_IPFS instead of its own_P2P content
distribution.

Still_cool though.

~~~
progval
IPFS does not work in the browser_yet.

~~~
mtgx
D.tube_works just fine:

[https://d.tube/](https://d.tube/)

~~~
progval
D.tube_makes the browser download from a gateway (ipfs.io) using_HTTP.

~~~
aaomidi
You can set it to connect_to your own_gateway.

~~~
rakoo
Doesn't_change_the fact that your_browser doesn't connect to the ipfs_network

------
coolspot
Perhaps also needs onion routing to_protect users from liabilities.

~~~
nilson
it says it works_in browser so you just run_it from tor browser

~~~
detaro
AFAIK Tor_browser deactivates_WebRTC to avoid leaking real_IPs, so at_least
the P2P_aspect wouldn't work._Not sure if seeding from the_server works
without it.

------
deevolution
awesome,_except it doesn't look like there_are_any incentives to_running_a
server._unless i_missed something?

~~~
Sir_Cmpwn
Like Mastodon_et_al, this_doesn't_need to be built on traditional_incentives.
The_incentives are that you want to share_cool videos with people._Any_one
server that gets overloaded_with users encourages others to_host another
server and build a community_on it,_and the_load (and the cost) naturally
balances and is distributed across the whole_network.

~~~
deevolution
Definitely an interesting digital ecosystem experiment._Hopefully it can
sustain itself._Will be_interesting_to see how_it_plays out_and evolves.

------
jacksmith21006
Problem is being able to monetize.

~~~
loup-vaillant
Monetise_what