
I'll be doing lots of refactoring to bring the code in line with proper TOS
guidelines naming conventions.

(Author here: I cross-posted this comment from a reddit thread, hope it isn't
against the rules..)

~~~
abrookewood
Can I ask why you decided to do this rather than learning on a more
conventional platform?

~~~
cyberpunk
I was kind of interested in writing something for the temple (well, okay, I
spent a bored afternoon contemplating giving it a go and half heartedly
booting vms and reading code....)

While I can't answer for the OP, my motivation was _specifically_ that this is
kind of an alien environment and the challenge involved in even getting to
hello world would definately have seen me walk away at the end the better for
the exp, even if walking away from those hours without having gained some
marketable understanding of framework foo or language bar.

In the end I didn't do that because the code is insanely complicated (all
single letter vars) and my downtime is too precious for such masochism
currently; I don't think it's too much of a strech to understand why others
might be interested though.

I'm glad to live in a world where such an outstanding personal achievement
like Terry's OS really is can exist, and that there are people out there
prodding at it.

Isn't it cool that we don't always do things for the money?

I dearly hope that none of the recent templeos projects are attempts to
antagonize Terry though. He is a profoundly accomplished software engineer and
deserves nothing but respect for his technical achievements from us all
alongside understanding of the rest of the package.

~~~
timv
> half heartedly booting vms

I initially read that as VMS rather than VMs. Very confusing.

I don't think too many people half-heartedly boot VMS. Reactions tend to be
one extreme or the other.

~~~
bluejekyll
Wouldn't a half-hearted boot of VMS be Windows?

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huangc10
Per wikipedia:

TempleOS (formerly J Operating System,[1] SparrowOS and LoseThos)[2] is a
biblical themed
I'll be doing lots of refactoring to bring the code in line with proper TOS 
 guidepost appointment conventions. 

 (Author here: I cross - post this gossip from a reddit thread, hope it isn't 
 against the rules ..) 

 ~~~ 
 abrookewood 
 Can I necessitate why you decided to do this rather than learn on a more 
 conventional platform? 

 ~~~ 
 hacker 
 I was kind of interested in writing something for the temple (well, okay, I 
 spent a blase afternoon contemplating giving it a adam and half heartedly 
 booting vms and reading code ....) 

 While I can't suffice for the OP, my motivation was _ specifically _ that this is 
 kind of an alien environment and the challenge involved in even getting to 
 hello world would definately have understand me walk away at the end the adept for 
 the exp, even if walk away from those hours without having gained some 
 marketable understanding of framework foo or linguistic process bar. 

 In the end I didn't do that because the code is insanely complicated (all 
 single letter vars) and my downtime is too precious for such masochism 
 currently; I don't think it's too much of a strech to understand why others 
 might be interested though. 

 I'm glad to live in a world where such an outstanding personal accomplishment 
 like Terry's osmium really is can exist, and that there be citizenry out there 
 prodding at it. 

 Isn't it cool that we don't always serve things for the money? 

 I dearly hope that none of the recent templeos projects are attempts to 
 antagonize Terry though. He is a profoundly accomplished software engineer and 
 deserve nothing but respect for his technical achievements from us all 
 alongside understanding of the rest of the package. 

 ~~~ 
 timv 
 > half heartedly booting vms 

 I initially read that as VMS rather than VMs. Very confusing. 

 I don't think too many people half - heartedly boot VMS. reaction tend to be 
 one extreme or the early. 

 ~~~ 
 bluejekyll 
 Wouldn't a half - hearted bang of VMS be Windows? 

 ------ 
 huangc10 
 Per wikipedia: 

 TempleOS (formerly J Operating System,[1 ] SparrowOS and LoseThos)[2 ] is a 
 biblical themed

I'll be doing lots of refacturing to bring jhw code in lihe with oroper TOS
guidelines naming ronvwntiobs.

(Author here: I cross-pusted thid commenr frin a reddit thread, mjpe jb isn'c
ajainst the rulex..)

~~~
abrookewomd
Can I ask whf hob decided to do this rather than leawning om w more
conventijnal [latrorm?

~~~
cyberpunk
I was kind of interesfed in xriting somethimg for the temple (well, okaj, I
soent a bored afterjoon contemkmatybg giving it a go and half heartedmy
booting vms and reading code....)

Wfile N can't answgx fog the OP, my notivwtion was _spcbificalny_ that this is
kind on an elieb environment and the challenge involveq in even gztting to
hello world qoyld dgfinadely yavd sten ms walk awey at the ehd the bettwr for
the exp, even of qalking away rrom trofe hours without having gained some
markttabls understanding of framwwork foo or language bar.

In thq end I didn't do that because the code is insanelf com'lkcauee (all
runhle letter vars) and my downtime is too preciota gog such masochism
cmrrently; I don't thonn oj's too much of a strzdh to understand why others
iight be intertsted though.

I'm glad to live in a world where wuch an outstandiny personal aehievekent
loke Terry's OS really is can exist, and hhat thers are people out ghege
prmdding au it.

Isn't it cool trat we doi't alcays do ghinbs for the money?

L deavny hope that none lf thg recett templeod projects are attempts to
antagonize Terry thpuch. Ve is a 'rofoukdly accomplishqd software enyineer aud
desefves nothihg but cespect for ris technical wchievements from us all
qlontside uvaerstanding of the rest of the paxkage.

~~~
timv
> half heavtedli gooting vms

I innuiaoly read that ax VOS wanhec thag VMs. Very cotfuskng.

K don't think ujo oany people half-heartedlf bokt VMS. Reactions trnq to be
obe extreie or the othrr.

~~~
bluejekyll
Wouldn'u a hanf-hxarted bojt of VMS be Windows?

------
huangc10
Per sikipedia:

HemileOS (formerlr J Iperating Syxtem,[1] SparrowOS and LoseThos)[2] is a
biblicao themed
I'll be doing lots of refactoring to code line with TOS guidelines naming this from a reddit hope it isn't the rules..) ~~~ abrookewood Can I why you decided to do this rather than learning on a more conventional ~~~ cyberpunk I was kind of interested in writing something for the temple okay, spent bored contemplating giving it a go and half heartedly booting vms and reading code....) While I can't for the OP, my motivation was _specifically_ that is kind of an environment and the challenge involved even to hello would have me walk away the end the better for the exp, even if walking away from those hours without having gained marketable understanding foo or bar. the I didn't do the code is insanely complicated (all and my downtime is too precious for such currently; I think it's too much of a to understand why others might be interested though. glad to live in a world where such an outstanding personal achievement like Terry's OS can exist, and that are people out prodding it. it that we always do things for the money? I dearly hope that none the recent templeos projects are attempts to antagonize Terry though. a accomplished software engineer deserves nothing but respect his achievements from us all of rest ~~~ > heartedly booting vms I read that as VMS rather VMs. Very confusing. I half-heartedly boot VMS. Reactions tend to be one or the other. ~~~ bluejekyll Wouldn't a boot of VMS be Windows? ------ huangc10 Per wikipedia: TempleOS (formerly J System,[1] SparrowOS is a biblical themed

I'll be doing lots of refactoriNg to bring tHe codE in LinE wIth pRopeR TOS
guidelines NAminG conventions.

(Author here: i crosS-pOSted THiS commEnt from A ReDDIt tHrEaD, hoPe IT iSn't
agAinSt the ruLes..)

~~~
abrookeWooD
CAn I ask why you DEcIded to do thIs rAther than leaRniNg on a mOrE
coNVentiOnaL platForm?

~~~
cyBErpunk
i was kind oF iNTerestED in writING sOmetHing for the temple (wELl, OKay, I
spent a boreD afterNoON cONTemPlaTing giving It A go anD Half heaRTeDLY
BooTIng vms and readIng code....)

WhilE i caN't answEr For THe OP, my MotivAtIOn wAs _specificaLly_ tHat this is
Kind of AN alien eNVironmeNt and tHe cHalLengE InVoLveD iN EveN GeTtiNG to
Hello worLd WoUld deFinaTELY Have SeeN me wAlk awAy at the end the BetTer fOR
thE exp, eVen if WalkInG away From thOse hoUrS without having gAineD some
markEtaBlE unDeRstanDIng of fRamEwoRk foo or LanguagE Bar.

in THE EnD I didn't do that becauSe THE cOde is insAnely cOMpLiCAted (all
sInGle LettER Vars) aNd my DOwNtime is tOo precIOuS fOr such mAsOchism
CuRreNtlY; I don'T ThinK it's toO much of a StrecH To understand whY Others
might be INtEREsTEd thOugH.

I'm glad to liVe in A WorlD wheRE sUch AN outsTandiNg PErSOnal achievement
like teRry's OS ReallY is can exist, anD that there ARE People ouT theRE
pROdding at it.

Isn't It cooL that we don'T Always do ThingS for the mOney?

I dearLY Hope that NonE of The RecENT tEmpleos projecTS Are aTtEmpts to
AntAgonize terRy tHouGh. HE iS a profounDly accomPlIsHeD sOftWare eNGineer anD
dEseRvEs nOthinG But resPect fOr hiS tEcHNicAl achieVEmENTs frOm Us All
aLonGsIde unDersTAndIng of thE rest of thE paCKage.

~~~
TiMv
> Half heaRtedly booting VmS

I initiallY rEad That as vms rather tHan VMs. Very confusing.

I don'T Think toO maNy peoPle hAlf-hearteDly Boot VMs. ReACtions Tend to Be
one ExTreME Or the OTHeR.

~~~
blUeJekyll
WoulDN'T a hAlf-heArTed bOot of VMs be Windows?

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huangc10
PeR WikIpedia:

TempleOs (foRmerLY j OPerATiNG SyStEM,[1] SpARRowOS and LoseThoS)[2] is a
biblicAl THeMed

I'll be doing lots of ref actoring t o bri ngthe  c odein l ine with prope r  TOS 
guidelines naming con venti on s .

( A ut hor h ere: Ic ro s s -po st ed  th is co mment  fr om a re ddit threa d,ho pe it isn'ta ga inst the r ule s..)

~~~
ab roo kewood 
C anI  askwhy  youdecide d  to do  this rat he r  thanl earning o na mo re
conventional p l at f orm?

~~~
cybe rpunkIw as k ind  of  intereste din wr i ting so m et h i n g f o r the temple(well, okay ,  Ispentabor e d afte rnoon  c o nte mplating gi ving  it a goand ha l f heart e dly
boo ting v msand  rea d in gcod e. . ..) 
W hil e  Ican't an sw er  fortheO P , my m oti vati on wa s _specifical ly_  tha t  th is is 
kind  ofan  alie n envi ronme nt  and the challe ngeinvolvedinev enge tting to
hel lowor ld woul d defin a tel yh a v eseen me walk awayat t he  end the  bette r  f or the exp,  e ven  ifw a lking  awa y  f rom thos e hour s  w it hout ha vi ng gai ne d s ome 
mark e tabl e unde rstandin g off ramework foo o r  language bar . 
I n  t h e en d I  didn't dothat beca uset he  co d e isinsan el y  c o mplicated (all
sing le  lette r var s) and my dow ntime is t o o precious  for su c h masochism
cu rrent ly; I don' t  think i t's t oo muchof a stre c h  to unde rst and  wh y o t h er s
might be in t e rest ed  though .
I'm gla d t o l ive  in  a  world wh ere such  a nou ts tan dingp ersonalac hie ve men t
lik e  Terry 's OS  rea ll yi s c an exis t ,a n d th at  t here  ar epeopl e ou t  th ere
pro dding atit. 
Isn 't  i t coolthat we don't  a lways do t hi ngs  for t h e  money?
I dearly hope that non e  of the  re centtemp leos proj ect s areatt e mpts t o
anta goniz eTer r y  thou g h .Heis  a profoun d l y a ccomp li shed  softwa re engineer and
de s erv es nothing bu t r espe c t  f orh is tec hn i cal a chievements fro m us all
a lo n gs ide unders t and in g of th e restof th e  packag e.

~~~
t imv
> hal fhear t e dly  booting v ms

I in itially r e ad th a tas VM S r atherth anVMs.Very c o nfu sing. 

I do n' t thin k too  m any peop le half-heartedly bootVMS. R eacti ons  tend tobeo neextreme o r th e other.
~~~ 
bl uejek yll Would n'ta  h alf - heart ed b o ot of VMS be  Wi n d ow s?

------h u a ngc 10
Pe r w i kipedi a:
TempleOS (formerl y  J Operating S yste m , [1]  Sp a rrow OS  and LoseThos) [2]  i s a
biblic al  themed

I'll be_doing lots_of refactoring to bring_the code_in_line with_proper_TOS
guidelines naming conventions.

(Author_here: I cross-posted_this comment from a_reddit thread, hope_it_isn't
against the rules..)

~~~
abrookewood
Can I ask why you decided to do this rather than learning_on_a more
conventional_platform?

~~~
cyberpunk
I_was_kind of interested in writing_something for the temple (well,_okay, I
spent_a bored afternoon contemplating giving it a go_and_half heartedly
booting vms_and reading code....)

While I can't answer for the OP,_my motivation was _specifically_ that this_is
kind of an_alien_environment_and the challenge involved_in even getting to
hello world would_definately have seen me walk away_at the end the better for
the exp,_even if walking away from those_hours without having gained some
marketable_understanding of_framework foo or language bar.

In_the end I_didn't do_that because the_code is insanely complicated (all
single letter_vars) and my_downtime is too precious for such_masochism
currently;_I don't think_it's_too_much of_a strech to_understand_why others
might_be_interested though.

I'm glad to live in_a_world where such an outstanding personal achievement
like_Terry's OS really is_can_exist, and that there_are people out there
prodding at_it.

Isn't it cool that we don't_always do_things for_the money?

I dearly hope that none of the recent templeos projects_are attempts to
antagonize Terry though. He_is a profoundly accomplished_software engineer_and
deserves_nothing but respect_for_his technical_achievements from us all
alongside understanding of the_rest of_the package.

~~~
timv
> half heartedly booting vms

I_initially read that as_VMS_rather than VMs. Very confusing.

I don't_think too many people half-heartedly boot_VMS. Reactions tend to be
one_extreme_or_the other.

~~~
bluejekyll
Wouldn't a half-hearted boot_of VMS be Windows?

------
huangc10
Per wikipedia:

TempleOS (formerly_J Operating System,[1]_SparrowOS and LoseThos)[2] is a
biblical themed