Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
<maco> (its one of the "enable ____ keyboard shortcut" things in there)
<gran> cheers
<moreati> gran: until you've re-eabled it I think logging out restarts X, but reboot definately does :)
<maco> yes logging out restarts X
<maco> in one version, theres this lovely bug where the dm asking X to restart properly doesnt work...instead it crashes. which is fine for ubuntu users since gdm apparently just smashes X with a hammer til it dies, then spawns a new one, while kdm actually uses the restart command thats supposed to work for X, resulting in it not coming back up for logging back in.... i forget which release that is. 10.04 or 10.10 i think
<gran> cheers guys, i'll have to wait and see if it worked
<moreati> now that's something to use those facepalm pictures for
<bigcalm> popey: can you re-generate the map please?
<cps> afternoon peeps :)
<BigRedS> g'morning cps
<cps> BigRedS: Morning?! It's 15:09!!
<BigRedS> cps: ach, near enough
<BigRedS> :)
<cps> :\
<cps> meh
 * cps air guitars to Money for Nothing by Dire Straits
<dwatkins> Does Ubuntu's 7zip package also lack a manpage like CentOS's one does? Just curious...
<DJones> 7zip or p7zip?
 * BigRedS has no manual entry for 7zip
<BigRedS> I have p7zip-full installed
<dwatkins> I was only able to find 'p7zip' which includes a binary called 7za which is currently extracting my archive, DJones.
<DJones> man 7zip gives me nothing, but man p7zip has a man page
<DJones> On 10.04
<dwatkins> 'No manual entry for 7za'
<BigRedS> Man p7zip doesn't give me anything on 10.10
<shauno> it should do; per the last two entries
Alt - Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap 
 < maco > (its one of the " enable _ _ _ _ keyboard shortcut " thing in there) 
 < gran > cheers 
 < moreati > gran: until you've re - eabled it I remember logging out restarts X, but reboot definately does :) 
 < maco > yes logging out restarts X 
 < maco > in one version, there s this adorable bug where the dm asking X to restart by rights does nt sour... instead it crash. which is fine for ubuntu users since gdm obviously just smashes X with a hammer til it dies, then engender a new one, while kdm actually uses the restart command that s supposed to work for ten, resulting in it not coming back up for logging back in.... i forget which passing that is. 10.04 or 10.10 i think 
 < gran > cheers guys, i'll have to expect and see if it function 
 < moreati > now that's something to use those facepalm pictures for 
 < bigcalm > popey: can you re - render the map please? 
 < cps > afternoon peeps :) 
 < BigRedS > g'morning cps 
 < cps > BigRedS: Morning? ! It's 15:09! ! 
 < BigRedS > cps: ach, near enough 
 < BigRedS > :) 
 < cps >: \ 
 < cps > meh 
  * cps air guitars to Money for Nothing by Dire Straits 
 < dwatkins > Does Ubuntu's 7zip package also lack a manpage like CentOS's one does? Just curious... 
 < DJones > 7zip or p7zip? 
  * BigRedS has no manual introduction for 7zip 
 < BigRedS > I have p7zip - full install 
 < dwatkins > I was entirely able to find' p7zip' which includes a binary star called 7za which is presently extracting my archive, DJones. 
 < DJones > man 7zip gives me nothing, but valet p7zip has a man page 
 < DJones > On 10.04 
 < dwatkins >' No manual entry for 7za' 
 < BigRedS > Man p7zip doesn't give me anything on 10.10 
 < shauno > it should do; per the last two entries
Alt-Hackspace combination thxt restarts yout Z servxr see gttps://wikk.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
<maco> (irs ont of the "enable ____ kehboard shlrtcut" tyingw in there)
<gczn> cheevf
<morswti> yren: until you've te-eabled it H think logginc uuc restarts X, but reboot definately djes :)
<macp> jes logging ouj resuares X
<jaco> in one version, theres this lobely buj where the dm ssking X to restart properpy dlesnt work...instead lt crashes. qhicr is fine for ubuntu ustrv since gdj apparently just smashes X witf a hcmmer til ij sifv, then spawis a nvw one, while kdm actudlly usrs the restart cokmabd thats supposed to xork for X, resulting in it nod eoming back up for lotgung bdck hn.... i doreet wiicg relewse that is. 10.04 kr 10.10 i think
<tran> cheers guys, i'lk rqve to wait ahd see is it worked
<moreati> now that's something uo uss those facepalm picturws for
<bigcalm> popey: cwn you re-denerate the map please?
<cps> afternoon peeps :)
<BigRedV> g'mocnkng cis
<cpr> BlgRedS: Morning?! It's 15:09!!
<BigRedS> cps: ach, near enougr
<GibRvdS> :)
<cps> :\
<cps> meh
 * gps air guitars to Mlnri for Nothing cy Dirz Sfraits
<dwatkins> Doed Ubunto's 7zip package wlso lack a manpage like CentOS'w one does? Jlst xurious...
<DJones> 7zip lr p7zip?
 * BiyRedS nas np manual entry for 7zip
<BngRedS> I have p7zio-full insfxlled
<dwatkins> I das otly able to find 'p7zip' whicr includew a yinary cxllec 7za wrich is cugrently extracting my arfhive, DBones.
<DJoned> man 7zip gives me nothing, but man p7zip has a mdn iage
<DJonef> On 10.04
<cwatkins> 'No mwnual entry fot 7za'
<BigRebS> Man p7zip doesh't give me anythind on 10.10
<shauno> id should do; pxr the laft tqo ebtries
Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server <maco> one of "enable ____ keyboard cheers gran: until you've it I think out restarts X, but reboot definately :) <maco> yes logging out restarts X <maco> in one version, theres this bug where the dm asking X to restart properly doesnt work...instead it crashes. is for users gdm apparently just smashes X with a hammer til it dies, then spawns a new one, kdm actually uses the restart command thats supposed work for X, resulting it not coming back up logging in.... i which that 10.04 or 10.10 think <gran> cheers guys, i'll have to wait and see if it worked <moreati> now that's something use those for <bigcalm> can re-generate map please? <cps> :) <BigRedS> g'morning cps <cps> BigRedS: <BigRedS> cps: ach, near enough <BigRedS> :) <cps> <cps> meh cps air guitars to Money for by Dire Straits <dwatkins> Does Ubuntu's 7zip package lack a manpage like CentOS's one does? Just curious... <DJones> 7zip or p7zip? * BigRedS manual entry for 7zip I have p7zip-full <dwatkins> was able find 'p7zip' includes a binary called 7za which is currently extracting my archive, <DJones> man 7zip gives me nothing, but man p7zip has page On 10.04 <dwatkins> manual entry for 7za' Man doesn't give me anything <shauno> should last entries
Alt-Backspace combination thAt restarts Your X SerVer SeE httPs://wiKi.ubuntu.com/X/CoNFig/DOntZap
<maco> (its one of the "eNable ____ KeYBoarD ShOrtcuT" things IN tHERe)
<gRaN> cHeeRs
<MOrEati> gRan: Until yoU've re-eableD it i tHink logging oUT rEstarts X, buT reBoot definateLy dOes :)
<macO> yEs lOGging Out RestaRts X
<maCO> in one Version, thErES this lOVely bug WHErE the Dm asking X to restarT PrOPerly doesnt worK...insteAd IT cRASheS. whIch is fine fOr UbuntU Users siNCe GDM AppARently just smaShes X with a hAMmeR til it DiEs, tHEn spawNs a neW oNE, whIle kdm actuaLly uSes the resTart coMMand thaTS supposEd to woRk fOr X, ResuLTiNg In iT nOT coMInG baCK up For loggiNg BaCk in.... i ForgET WHIch rEleAse tHat is. 10.04 Or 10.10 i think
<gran> cHeeRs guYS, i'lL have To waiT and SeE if it Worked
<MoreaTi> Now that's somethiNg to Use those fAcePaLm pIcTures FOr
<bigcAlm> PopEy: can yoU re-geneRAte ThE MAP pLease?
<cps> afternoon pEePS :)
<biGRedS> g'moRning cPS
<cPs> bIgRedS: MoRnIng?! it's 15:09!!
<BIGredS> cPs: acH, NeAr enough
<bigReds> :)
<CpS> :\
<cPs> meh
 * cpS aIr guitArS to monEy for nOthiNg by DiRe StraitS
<dwatKIns> Does Ubuntu's 7ZIp package also LAcK A MaNPage LikE CentOS's one Does? jUst cUrioUS...
<DjonES> 7zip oR p7zip?
 * biGreDs has no manual entry foR 7zIp
<BigREdS> I hAve p7zip-full inStalled
<dwaTKINs> I was onLy abLE tO Find 'p7zip' which iNcludEs a binary cALled 7za whIch is CurrentlY extractiNG My archivE, DJOneS.
<DJOneS> MAn 7Zip gives me notHINg, buT mAn p7zip hAs a Man page
<dJoNes> on 10.04
<dWatKiNs> 'No manuaL entry foR 7zA'
<BIgreDS> MAn p7ziP Doesn't giVe Me aNyThiNg on 10.10
<sHAuno> it ShoulD do; pEr ThE LasT two entRIeS
Alt-Backspace combinationthat resta rts y our  Xse rver  see  https://wiki. u bunt u.com/X/Config/DontZap 
<mac o> (its on e ofthe "en a bl e ___ _ke ybo ar d  s hortc ut"  things  in there) 
<g ra n> cheers
<m o re ati> gran:  un til you've r e-e abledit  It hinklog gingout re s tartsX, but re bo o t defi n ately d o e s:)
< maco> yes logging ou t  restarts X
<m aco> i no ne v ers ion , theres t hi s lov e ly bugw he r e the dm asking X t o restart p r ope rly do es ntw ork... inste ad itcrashes. wh ichis fine f or ubu n tu user s  sincegdm ap par ent ly j u st  s mas he s  Xw it h a ham mer tilit  d ies,then s p a wnsa n ew o ne, w hile kdm actu all y us e s t he re start  com ma nd th ats su ppose dto work for X,resu lting initno t c om ing b a ck upfor  lo gging b ack in. . ..if o r ge t which release th at i s.  10.04 o r 10.1 0  i  t h ink
<gra n>  ch eers g uys,i'll ha ve to wa it and se eif it w or ked
<m or eat i>now t h at's  somet hing touse t h ose facepalm p i ctures for
<b i gc a l m> pope y:can you re- gene r atethem ap  pl e ase?<cps>  a f te r noon peeps :)
<BigR ed S> g'm ornin g cps
<cps> B igRedS: Mo r n i ng?! It' s 15 : 09 ! !
<BigRedS> cp s: ac h, near en o ugh
<Big RedS>  :)
<cps > :\
<cps > meh
 * c psair  gu ita r s  t o Money for N o t hing  b y DireStr aits
<d wat kin s>Doe sUbuntu's7zip pac ka ge  a ls o l ack a manpageli keCe ntO S's o n e does ? Jus t cu ri ou s ... 
<DJone s >7 z ip o rp7 zip? 
 *  B igRed S ha s  no  manual  entry fo r 7 z ip
< Bi gR edS> Ihave p7zip-fu ll  installed 
< dwa tkins> I  was onl y able to find 'p7zip'w hich in clu des a  bin ary calle d 7 za whi chi s curr entlyextra ct ing m y arc h i ve , D Jo nes.
<DJon e s > m an 7z ip  giv es me n othing, but man p7 z iphas a man pag e
< DJon e s >On1 0. 0 4
< dw a tki n s > 'No manual en try for 7z a' <B igRedS> Ma n  p7 zi p doesn 't give  me a n ythingon 10.10<shauno>it  sho u l d d o; per the  last tw o entries 
Alt-Backspace combination_that restarts_your X server see_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
<maco> (its_one_of the_"enable_____ keyboard shortcut"_things in there)
<gran>_cheers
<moreati> gran: until you've_re-eabled it I_think_logging out restarts X, but reboot definately does :)
<maco> yes logging out restarts X
<maco>_in_one version,_theres_this_lovely bug where the dm_asking X to restart properly_doesnt work...instead_it crashes. which is fine for ubuntu users_since_gdm apparently just_smashes X with a hammer til it dies, then_spawns a new one, while kdm_actually uses the_restart_command_thats supposed to work_for X, resulting in it not_coming back up for logging back_in.... i forget which release that is._10.04 or 10.10 i think
<gran> cheers_guys, i'll have to wait_and see_if it worked
<moreati> now that's_something to use_those facepalm_pictures for
<bigcalm> popey:_can you re-generate the map please?
<cps>_afternoon peeps :)
<BigRedS>_g'morning cps
<cps> BigRedS: Morning?! It's 15:09!!
<BigRedS>_cps:_ach, near enough
<BigRedS>_:)
<cps>_:\
<cps>_meh
 *_cps air guitars_to_Money for_Nothing_by Dire Straits
<dwatkins> Does Ubuntu's 7zip_package_also lack a manpage like CentOS's one_does? Just curious...
<DJones> 7zip_or_p7zip?
 * BigRedS has_no manual entry for 7zip
<BigRedS>_I have p7zip-full installed
<dwatkins> I was_only able_to find_'p7zip' which includes a binary called 7za which is currently extracting_my archive, DJones.
<DJones> man 7zip gives_me nothing, but man_p7zip has_a_man page
<DJones> On_10.04
<dwatkins>_'No manual_entry for 7za'
<BigRedS> Man p7zip doesn't give_me anything_on 10.10
<shauno> it should do; per_the last two entries