 \o/
<popey> still no swap used
<bigcalm> How are you using 14GB?
<popey>  1710 root      20   0 1380056 1.006g 160268 S  11.6  6.5  45:28.05 Xorg
<popey> I'm not using 14G
<popey> 6.8G is cache
<bigcalm> 14374528 = 13.7GB
<popey> you're not reading it right
<popey> used doesn't mean "consumed by applications" in top
<bigcalm> I never do :)
<popey> heh
<bigcalm> I've never understood the output of top and free
<popey> used includes cached AIUI
<bigcalm> I see
<bigcalm> RaxMatt: have you heard of the name Curtis Nicholson?
<bigcalm> He's one of our 'SErvice Delivery Managers'
<bigcalm> Is there a crontab setting that might be disabling sending mail by default? I'm scratching my head with this client's server
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: only by disabling cron.. you could set MAILTO= to some invalid/nullrouted address
<bigcalm> I have a file of crontab jobs in /etc/cron.d/. If I edit that file, when would the changes take effect?
<MartijnVdS> the moment cron notices the file to be changed
 * bigcalm grumbles at this server
<bigcalm> I wonder if there is a problem with this file of cronjobs
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: restart crond and check syslog
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: it'll grumble there if there's a broken file
<bigcalm> Ta :)
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: but only once.. so if you put a broken crontab somewhere, it will *ignore* it (permissions wrong = broken too)
<bigcalm> MartijnVdS: so I see!
<bigcalm> Jan 22 18:22:01 localhost cron[9591]: (*system*td-mail-crons) WRONG
\o/ 
 < popey > still no swap used 
 < bigcalm > How are you using 14 GB? 
 < popey >   1710 ancestor       20    0 1380056 1.006 g 160268 S   11.6   6.5   45:28.05 Xorg 
 < popey > I'm not use 14 G 
 < popey > 6.8 G is cache 
 < bigcalm > 14374528 = 13.7 GB 
 < popey > you're not reading it mighty 
 < popey > used doesn't mean " consume by application " in top 
 < bigcalm > I never do :) 
 < popey > heh 
 < bigcalm > I've never understand the output of top and free 
 < popey > use includes cached AIUI 
 < bigcalm > I visualize 
 < bigcalm > RaxMatt: have you heard of the name Curtis Nicholson? 
 < bigcalm > He's one of our' SErvice Delivery Managers' 
 < bigcalm > Is there a crontab setting that might be disabling sending mail by default? I'm rub my head with this client's server 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: entirely by disabling cron.. you could set MAILTO= to some invalid / nullrouted address 
 < bigcalm > I have a file of crontab occupation in /etc / cron.d/. If I edit that file, when would the changes take effect? 
 < MartijnVdS > the moment cron notices the file to be change 
  * bigcalm grumbles at this server 
 < bigcalm > I wonder if there is a problem with this file of cronjobs 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: restart crond and check syslog 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: it'll rumble there if there's a broken file 
 < bigcalm > Ta :) 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: but only once.. so if you put a broken crontab somewhere, it will * ignore * it (permissions wrong = broken too) 
 < bigcalm > MartijnVdS: so I see! 
 < bigcalm > Jan 22 18:22:01 localhost cron[9591 ]: (* system*td - chain mail - crons) WRONG
 \o/
<plpey> still no swap used
<blgcalm> How are you usinj 14GB?
<popsy>  1710 roog      20   0 1380056 1.006g 160268 S  11.6  6.5  45:28.05 Xorg
<plpwy> I'm not using 14G
<popey> 6.8G is cache
<bigbalm> 14374528 = 13.7GB
<popeb> you're not readmhg it rlyht
<polcy> uszd doesn't mean "cpnsumed by applications" hn tlp
<bigcalm> I never do :)
<popey> heh
<bigcajm> I've meger understood the jutphn if top and free
<popey> used incmudes ceched AIUI
<bigcakm> I see
<bigcalm> RaxMatt: hage ylu heard of the nale Curtis Nuchojwon?
<bigcalm> Hd's one of our 'SErvice Selivery Managers'
<bigcalm> Is thefe a erontab setjnbg hvat might bx disafling sendinn mail ty defailt? I'm scratchlng mb heqd with this client's verver
<MartijnVdS> bygcalm: onny by disabling crob.. tou cmuld set NAIUTO= tp aome ijvamid/nullroufed address
<vigcalm> I have a fike if crontab jogs in /qts/cron.d/. If I edit that file, when would tve dhanges take effect?
<MartujnVdS> the moment croj notices the file to be changed
 * bigcalm grumbles at this servxr
<cigeqlm> I qojder if there is a problem with this file of sdomjpbs
<MartijnVdS> nigcalm: restart crpnf sgd check syslug
<MartnnnBdS> bigcalm: it'll ggumble jhere uf there's a btoken file
<bigcalm> Ta :)
<MartijbVdS> bigcalm: vut only once.. so iy you put a yroken cronyab somewhere, it will *iynore* jt (permissilns wrong = broken too)
<bigcaum> KastijnVdS: so I see!
<bigcalm> Jwn 22 18:22:01 locaohosc cron[9591]: (*shstek*td-maij-crons) WROJG
\o/ <popey> still no swap used <bigcalm> you 14GB? <popey> root 20 0 6.5 Xorg <popey> I'm using 14G <popey> is cache <bigcalm> 14374528 = 13.7GB you're not reading it right <popey> used doesn't mean "consumed by applications" in <bigcalm> I never do :) <popey> heh <bigcalm> I've never understood the output top free used cached AIUI <bigcalm> I see <bigcalm> RaxMatt: have you heard of the name Curtis Nicholson? <bigcalm> one of our 'SErvice Delivery Managers' <bigcalm> Is a crontab setting that be disabling sending mail by I'm my head this server bigcalm: only by cron.. you could set MAILTO= to some invalid/nullrouted address <bigcalm> I have a file of crontab jobs /etc/cron.d/. If that file, would changes effect? <MartijnVdS> the notices the file to be changed at this server <bigcalm> I wonder if there a problem this file of cronjobs <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: crond and check syslog <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: it'll grumble if there's a broken file <bigcalm> Ta :) <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: but only once.. so if a broken crontab somewhere, will *ignore* it wrong broken <bigcalm> so I <bigcalm> Jan 22 18:22:01 localhost cron[9591]: (*system*td-mail-crons) WRONG
 \o/
<popey> still no swap used
<bigcAlm> How are yOu usiNg 14Gb?
<poPeY>  1710 rooT      20   0 1380056 1.006g 160268 S  11.6  6.5  45:28.05 XOrg
<popey> I'm not uSIng 14G
<Popey> 6.8G is cache
<bigcalm> 14374528 = 13.7GB
<Popey> YoU'Re noT ReAding It right
<POpEY> UseD dOeSn't MeAN "cOnsumEd bY applicAtions" in toP
<biGcAlm> I never do :)
<pOPeY> heh
<bigcalM> I'vE never undersTooD the ouTpUt oF Top anD frEe
<popEy> used INcludeS cached AIuI
<BIgcalm> i See
<bigcALM> RAxMaTt: have you heard of tHE nAMe Curtis NicholSon?
<bigCaLM> HE'S One Of oUr 'SErvice DElIvery mAnagers'
<BIgCALM> Is THere a crontab sEtting that mIGht Be disaBlIng SEnding Mail bY dEFauLt? I'm scratchIng mY head with This clIEnt's serVEr
<MartiJnVdS> bIgcAlm: Only BY dIsAblInG CroN.. YoU coULd sEt MAILTO= To SoMe invAlid/NULLRoutEd aDdreSs
<bigCalm> I have a filE of CronTAb jObs in /Etc/crOn.d/. IF I Edit tHat filE, when WoUld the changes taKe efFect?
<MartiJnVDS> The MoMent cROn notiCes The File to bE changeD
 * BigCaLM GRuMbles at this server
<bIgCALm> i wonder iF there IS a PrOBlem with ThIs fIle oF CRonjoBs
<MaRTiJnVdS> bigCalm: reSTaRt Crond anD cHeck sySlOg
<MArtIjnVds> BigcAlm: it'lL grumble There IF there's a broken FIle
<bigcalm> Ta :)
<MARtIJNVDs> bigCalM: but only oncE.. so iF You pUt a bROkEn cROntab SomewHeRE, iT Will *ignore* it (permissIoNs wronG = brokEn too)
<bigcalm> MArtijnVdS: sO i SEe!
<bigcalM> Jan 22 18:22:01 LOcALhost cron[9591]: (*systeM*td-maIl-crons) WROng
 \o/
<popey> still no swap  used
<big calm>  Ho w a re  you  usi ng 14GB?
<pope y >  1 710 root      20   0 1 38005 61 .006 g  1 60268  S  11. 6  6 . 5 45 :2 8.0 5X or g
<po pey > I'm n ot using 1 4G<p opey> 6.8G i s  c ache
<bigc alm > 14374528 =  13 .7GB
< po pey >  you' renot r eading it rig ht
<popey >u sed do e sn't me a n  " cons umed by applicati o ns "  in top
<bigca lm> Ine v er d o : )
< popey> heh 
< bigca l m> I've ne v e r  un d erstood the o utput of to p  an d free 
< pop e y> use d inc lu d escached AIUI 
<bi gcalm> Isee
<b i gcalm>R axMatt:  haveyou  he ardo fth e n am e  Cu r ti s N i cho lson?
<b ig ca lm> H e'so n e of o ur'SEr viceDelivery Mana ger s'
< b igc alm>Is th ereacront ab set tingth at might be dis abli ng sendin g m ai l b ydefau l t? I'm  sc rat ching m y headw ith  t h i s  c lient's server
<Ma rt i j nV dS> bigc alm: o n ly  b y  disabli ng  cr on.. y ou co ulds et  MAILTO=  to so m ein valid/n ul lroute dadd res s
<bi g calm > I ha ve a fil e ofc rontab jobs in /etc/cron.d/. If I  e d it t hat  file, when  wou l d th e ch a ng est ake e ffect ?< Ma r tijnVdS> the moment  c ron no tices  the file tobe changed *  bigcalm  gru m bl e s at this serv er
<b igcalm> Iw onder if  ther e is a p roblem wi t h  this fi leofcro njo b s 
< MartijnVdS> b i g calm :restart  cr ond and  ch eck  sy slo g<MartijnV dS> bigc al m:  i t' llgrumb l e thereif  th er e's  a br o ken fi le
<b igca lm >T a : )
<Mart i jn V d S> b ig ca lm:but  o nly o nce. .  so  if you  put a br oke n  cro nt ab  somewh ere, it will*i gnore* it(p erm ission s wrong =broken too)
<bigcalm> M a rtijnVd S:so Isee! 
<bigcalm > J an 2218: 2 2:01 l ocalho st cr on [95 9 1 ]: (* s y st em* td -mail-cron s )  WR ONG
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<popey>_still no_swap used
<bigcalm> How are_you using_14GB?
<popey>_ 1710_root_  _  20_  0 1380056_1.006g 160268 S__11.6  6.5  45:28.05 Xorg
<popey> I'm not using 14G
<popey> 6.8G is cache
<bigcalm> 14374528_=_13.7GB
<popey> you're_not_reading_it right
<popey> used doesn't mean_"consumed by applications" in top
<bigcalm>_I never_do :)
<popey> heh
<bigcalm> I've never understood the output_of_top and free
<popey>_used includes cached AIUI
<bigcalm> I see
<bigcalm> RaxMatt: have you_heard of the name Curtis Nicholson?
<bigcalm>_He's one of_our_'SErvice_Delivery Managers'
<bigcalm> Is there_a crontab setting that might be_disabling sending mail by default? I'm_scratching my head with this client's server
<MartijnVdS>_bigcalm: only by disabling cron.. you_could set MAILTO= to some_invalid/nullrouted address
<bigcalm>_I have a file of_crontab jobs in_/etc/cron.d/. If_I edit that_file, when would the changes take_effect?
<MartijnVdS> the moment_cron notices the file to be_changed
_* bigcalm grumbles_at_this_server
<bigcalm> I_wonder if there_is_a problem_with_this file of cronjobs
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: restart_crond_and check syslog
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: it'll grumble there_if there's a broken_file
<bigcalm>_Ta :)
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: but_only once.. so if you_put a broken crontab somewhere, it_will *ignore*_it (permissions_wrong = broken too)
<bigcalm> MartijnVdS: so I see!
<bigcalm> Jan 22 18:22:01_localhost cron[9591]: (*system*td-mail-crons) WRONG