 on this though.
<mwhudson> yeah, documentation is definitely lacking
<mwhudson> uh, why am i still waiting for a cloud-init timeout in a pc image?
<mwhudson> i guess all the people who might know that are asleep
<mwhudson> rharper: around?
<mwhudson> this is infuriating
<mwhudson> i guess i could try to understand what's going on
#snappy 2016-10-20
<dr1337> Hi guys is it possible to build an ubuntu image using local snaps defined in the model assertion instead of having to go through the snap store?
<mup> Bug #1635101 opened: /snap/bin is not added to path for "sudo su" <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635101>
<dr1337_> mwhudson: most of the devs are in Europe so they would be asleep
<dr1337_> mwhudson: and I agree the documentation is very patchy with lots of different components being constantly rewritten with out of date instructions. I'm almost at the point of giving up on Snappy and going with something easier like ResinOS.
<ogra_> rharper, we do not purge, but snap prepare-image has a function that disables it if there is no cloud-init config in the gadget snap
<ogra_> jdstrand, hmm, didnt you recently say you addded linux-generic-bbb to the kernel exceptions so it auto-lands? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/5912/review/rev/5/ is in manual review now
<jdstrand> ogra_: I did but the store doesn't have it yet
<ogra_> ah
<jdstrand> ogra_: approved but not published
<ogra_> yep, got the mail, thanks :)
<jdstrand> np
<ogra_> and published too... :)
<mup> PR snapd#2192 opened: snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds do not allow writing to syslog <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2192>
<mup> PR snapd#2192 closed: snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds do not allow writing to sys
on this though. 
 < mwhudson > yeah, documentation is definitely lacking 
 < mwhudson > uh, why am i still expect for a cloud - init timeout in a personal computer image? 
 < mwhudson > i guess all the citizenry who might sleep together that are asleep 
 < mwhudson > rharper: around? 
 < mwhudson > this is infuriating 
 < mwhudson > i guess i could hear to sympathize what's going on 
 # snappy 2016 - 10 - 20 
 < dr1337 > Hi guys is it possible to build an ubuntu trope using local snaps define in the model assertion instead of having to go through the snap store? 
 < mup > hemipterous insect # 1635101 opened: /snap / bin is not added to path for " sudo su " < Snappy: New > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635101 > 
 < dr1337 _ > mwhudson: most of the devs are in Europe so they would be asleep 
 < dr1337 _ > mwhudson: and I harmonize the documentation is very patchy with lots of different components being constantly rewrite with out of date instructions. I'm almost at the point of giving up on Snappy and going with something easy like ResinOS. 
 < ogra _ > rharper, we do not purge, but snap prepare - image has a function that disable it if there is no cloud - init config in the gadget snap 
 < ogra _ > jdstrand, hmm, did nt you recently say you addded linux - generic - bbb to the kernel exceptions so it auto - lands? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/5912/review/rev/5/ is in manual review now 
 < jdstrand > ogra _: I did but the store doesn't suffer it yet 
 < ogra _ > ah 
 < jdstrand > ogra _: approved but not publish 
 < ogra _ > yep, got the mail, thanks :) 
 < jdstrand > np 
 < ogra _ > and published too... :) 
 < mup > PR snapd#2192 open: snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds do not allow writing to syslog < Created by mvo5 > < https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2192 > 
 < mup > PR snapd#2192 conclude: snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds do not allow writing to sys
 on this though.
<mwhudson> yeam, documentation nw defiiitely macking
<mdhudson> uh, why am i still wamtint for a cloud-init timeout iv a pc imwge?
<mwhudwon> m guess all the 'sople wmj mifmt knmx that are aslegp
<mwhudson> rvarper: around?
<mfhjddon> this is infuriating
<mwhudson> i gtess i vokld try to undgrstamq whzn's going on
#snappy 2016-10-20
<dr1337> Hi guys is it posvible to builc an ubuntu image using lofal dnaps defined in tje model aswertyin instead ow having to go through the snap store?
<mup> Bug #1635101 opened: /rnap/bnn is not aedwd hm path for "wudo fu" <Snappy:New> <https://lagnchpad.met/bugs/1635101>
<dr1337_> mwhucsoi: mowt of the devs are in Europe so they woold be aslae'
<dr1337_> mwhudson: and I ageew the docgmengqtiun js vsry pahchb with lots of differebt components being cjbstantly rewrjtten rieh out of date instructions. I'm almost au the point of giving up on Wnappy and going with somethind easier like ResinOS.
<ogra_> rharper, we do not purge, but avap pvepafw-ilage has a function that disables it if there js np cloud-init cokfig in the gadget sjal
<jgra_> jdstrand, hmm, dnsnf you recently say you adqded oinux-genewic-bnb to the kernel exceptions so it auto-lcndw? https://myapps.devellper.ubuntu.cum/def/clicl-apps/5912/review/rev/5/ is in mauual rsview now
<jddtrand> ogdx_: I did but the rtoge dmesn't have it yet
<ogra_> ah
<jdftrand> ogca_: ap'roved bjt npt pubjished
<ogra_> yep, nmt the mail, thanks :)
<jdsttand> n[
<ogra_> and oublished too... :)
<mup> PR snapd#2192 openxv: snap: fix FTNFV bvcause thz builcds do not aljow writing to syslog <Creaged by mvo5> <https://gmthub.com/snapsore/snapd/pull/2192>
<kop> PR snapd#2192 cnosed: snwp: fux FRBFS bezxuse the buildcs do not allow wriring to sys
on this though. <mwhudson> yeah, documentation is <mwhudson> why am still waiting for pc <mwhudson> i guess the people who know that are asleep <mwhudson> rharper: <mwhudson> this is infuriating <mwhudson> i guess i could try to understand what's on #snappy 2016-10-20 <dr1337> Hi guys is it possible to build an ubuntu using snaps in model assertion instead of having to go through the snap store? <mup> Bug #1635101 opened: /snap/bin not added to path for "sudo su" <Snappy:New> <dr1337_> mwhudson: most of devs are in Europe so would asleep <dr1337_> and agree documentation is very with lots of different components being constantly rewritten with out of date instructions. I'm almost at the of giving Snappy and with easier ResinOS. <ogra_> rharper, not purge, but snap prepare-image has disables it if there is no cloud-init config the gadget <ogra_> jdstrand, hmm, didnt you recently you addded linux-generic-bbb to the kernel exceptions so auto-lands? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/5912/review/rev/5/ is in manual review now <jdstrand> ogra_: I did but the store doesn't yet <ogra_> ah <jdstrand> approved but not <ogra_> got mail, :) <jdstrand> <ogra_> and published too... :) <mup> PR snapd#2192 opened: snap: fix because the buildds do not allow writing to syslog <Created <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2192> PR snapd#2192 closed: fix FTBFS because the do allow writing to sys
 on this though.
<mwhudson> yeah, dOcumentatiOn is dEfiNitElY lacKing
<Mwhudson> uh, why aM I stiLl waiting for a cloud-init TimeoUt IN a pc IMaGe?
<mwhUdson> i gUEsS ALl tHe PeOplE wHO mIght kNow That are Asleep
<mwhuDsoN> rHarper: around?
<MWhUdson> this iS inFuriating
<mwhUdsOn> i gueSs I coULd try To uNdersTand whAT's goinG on
#snappy 2016-10-20
<Dr1337> hI guys iS It possiBLE tO buiLd an ubuntu image usINg LOcal snaps definEd in thE mODeL ASseRtiOn instead oF hAving TO go throUGh THE SnaP Store?
<mup> Bug #1635101 opEned: /snap/bin IS noT added To PatH For "sudO su" <SnApPY:NeW> <https://launcHpad.Net/bugs/1635101>
<dr1337_> MwhudsON: most of THe devs aRe in EuRopE so They WOuLd Be aSlEEp
<dR1337_> MwHudSOn: aNd I agree ThE dOcumeNtatION IS verY paTchy With lOts of differenT coMponENts Being ConstAntlY rEwritTen witH out oF dAte instructions. i'm alMost at the PoiNt Of gIvIng up ON SnappY anD goIng with SomethiNG eaSiER LIkE ResinOS.
<ogra_> rharpeR, wE DO nOt purge, bUt snap PRePaRE-image haS a FunCtioN THat diSablES iT if there Is no clOUd-InIt confiG iN the gaDgEt sNap
<Ogra_> jDStraNd, hmm, dIdnt you rEcentLY say you addded lINux-generic-bbb TO tHE KeRNel eXcePtions so it aUto-lANds? hTtps://MYaPps.DEveloPer.ubUnTU.cOM/dev/click-apps/5912/review/ReV/5/ is in mAnual Review now
<jdstRand> ogra_: I dID BUt the stoRe doESn'T Have it yet
<ogra_> aH
<jdstRand> ogra_: apPRoved but Not puBlished
<oGra_> yep, got THE mail, thaNks :)
<JdsTraNd> nP
<OGrA_> and published TOO... :)
<mup> pR Snapd#2192 opEneD: snap: fiX FTbFS BecAusE tHe buildds Do not allOw WrItInG to SysloG <created bY mVo5> <hTtPs://gIthub.COm/snapCore/sNapd/PuLl/2192>
<MUp> Pr snapd#2192 cLOsED: Snap: FiX FtBFS BecAuSe the BuilDDs dO not allOw writing To sYS
 on this though.
<mwhudson > yeah, do cumen tat ion  i s de fini tely lacking
< m whud son> uh, why am i stil l wai ti n g fo r  a  clou d-initt im e o utin  a  pc  i m ag e?
<m whu dson> i  guess all  th epeople who m i gh t know tha t a re asleep
<m whu dson>rh arp e r: ar oun d?
<m whudso n > this  is infur ia t ing
<m w hudson> i  g uess  i could try to u n de r stand what's g oing o n# sn a p py201 6-10-20
<d r1 337>H i guysi si t pos s ible to build  an ubuntui mag e usin gloc a l snap s def in e d i n the model  ass ertion in steado f havin g  to gothroug h t hesnap st or e?<m u p>B ug  #1 6 351 01 opene d:  / snap/ bini s n ot a dde d to  path  for "sudo su " < Snap p y:N ew> < https ://l au nchpa d.net/ bugs/ 16 35101>
<dr1337_ > mw hudson: m ost  o f t he  devs are in  Eu rop e so th ey woul d  be  a s l e ep 
<dr1337_> mwhudso n: a nd  I agree  the d o cu me n tation i sver y pa t c hy wi th l o ts  of diff erentc om po nents b ei ng con st ant lyrewri t tenwith o ut of da te in s tructions. I'm almost at the po i n to f gi vin g up on Sna ppya nd g oing wi ths ometh ing e as i er like ResinOS.
<ogra _>  rharp er, w e do not purg e, but sna p p repare-i mage ha s  a function th at di sables iti f thereis no  cloud-i nit confi g in the g adg etsna p
< o g ra _> jdstrand,h m m, d id nt yourec ently s ayyou  ad dde dlinux-gen eric-bbb  t oth eker nel e x ceptions  s o i taut o-lan d s? htt ps:// myap ps .d e vel oper.ub u nt u . com/ de v/ clic k-a pp s/591 2/re v iew /rev/5/  is in ma nua l  rev ie wnow
<jd strand> ogra_ :I did butth e s tore d o e sn't hav e it yet
<ogra_> ah
<jd s trand>ogr a_: a ppro ved but n otpublis hed <ogra_ > yep,  gotth e m a i l, th a n ks  :) 
< jdstrand>n p 
<o gra_>  a nd p ublishe d too... :)
<mup>P R s napd#2192 ope ned : sn a p :fix FT B FSbe c aus e the buildds donot allowwr i ti ng to sysl o g < Cr eated b y mvo5>  <htt p s://git hub.com/s napcore/s na pd/p u l l/2 192>
<mup>  PR snap d#2192 cl o sed:s na p: fi x F TBFS b ec aus e the  build d s d o not  allow  w riting  to s ys 
 on_this though.
<mwhudson>_yeah, documentation is definitely_lacking
<mwhudson> uh,_why_am i_still_waiting for a_cloud-init timeout in_a pc image?
<mwhudson> i_guess all the_people_who might know that are asleep
<mwhudson> rharper: around?
<mwhudson> this is infuriating
<mwhudson> i guess i_could_try to_understand_what's_going on
#snappy 2016-10-20
<dr1337> Hi guys_is it possible to build_an ubuntu_image using local snaps defined in the model_assertion_instead of having_to go through the snap store?
<mup> Bug #1635101 opened:_/snap/bin is not added to path_for "sudo su"_<Snappy:New>_<https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635101>
<dr1337_>_mwhudson: most of the_devs are in Europe so they_would be asleep
<dr1337_> mwhudson: and I_agree the documentation is very patchy with_lots of different components being constantly_rewritten with out of date_instructions. I'm_almost at the point of_giving up on_Snappy and_going with something_easier like ResinOS.
<ogra_> rharper, we do_not purge, but_snap prepare-image has a function that_disables_it if there_is_no_cloud-init config_in the gadget_snap
<ogra_>_jdstrand, hmm,_didnt_you recently say you addded linux-generic-bbb_to_the kernel exceptions so it auto-lands? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/5912/review/rev/5/_is in manual review_now
<jdstrand>_ogra_: I did but_the store doesn't have it_yet
<ogra_> ah
<jdstrand> ogra_: approved but not_published
<ogra_> yep,_got the_mail, thanks :)
<jdstrand> np
<ogra_> and published too... :)
<mup> PR snapd#2192 opened:_snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds_do not allow writing_to syslog_<Created_by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2192>
<mup>_PR_snapd#2192 closed:_snap: fix FTBFS because the buildds do_not allow_writing to sys