fwereade> jam, can I send you into #juju-gui to have a talk with frankban about something networky-looking please?
 * perrito666 visists a friend company for coworking for the day and he gets his space bar fixed
<fwereade> jam, no public networks from the AllWatcher: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8703311/ (although I see a localhost with public scope..?)
<frankban> fwereade: yeah, but no ipv4 address with public scope
<fwereade> frankban, indeed, but localhost doesn't helpmost people very much ;p
<frankban> fwereade: yeah, and this breaks local quickstart usage
<fwereade> frankban, I'm sorry I can't give you my full attention right now -- dimitern may be on a swap day? otherwise jam or TheMue are most likely to have something relevant to say about networking
<fwereade> frankban, it sounds like a critical bug regardless, please go ahead and report it
<frankban> fwereade: this seems to be part of a more general problem with the mega-watchers: hazmat filed bug 1386143
<mup> Bug #1386143: 1.21 alpha 2 broke watch api, no longer reports all services <api> <regression> <juju-core:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386143>
<fwereade> frankban, ok, cool, would you add it to that bug then (assuming status gives you what you want, but the watcher is broken?)
<frankban> fwereade: sure, and thanks
<fwereade> waigani, heads up: ^^ I think you/menn0/thumper have been in state lately?
<jw4> fwereade: morning; were you saying you were going to do a bunch of refactoring in actions?
<fwereade> jw4, have you been seeing the changes going by in uniter?
<fwereade> jw4, it's an extension of that really -- trying to move context/runner related stuff out of uniter
<jw4> fwereade, ah, you mean the hook context stuff?  I haven't caught up the last 24 hours yet :)
fwereade > jam, can I send you into # juju - gui to have a talk with frankban about something networky - look please? 
  * perrito666 visists a supporter company for coworking for the day and he gets his distance bar fixed 
 < fwereade > jam, no public network from the AllWatcher: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8703311/ (although I experience a localhost with public scope.. ?) 
 < frankban > fwereade: yeah, but no ipv4 savoir-faire with public oscilloscope 
 < fwereade > frankban, indeed, but localhost doesn't helpmost people very a lot; p 
 < frankban > fwereade: yeah, and this breaks local quickstart usage 
 < fwereade > frankban, I'm sorry I can't pass you my full attention right now -- dimitern may be on a swap sidereal day? otherwise jam or TheMue are most probable to have something relevant to say about networking 
 < fwereade > frankban, it sounds like a critical bug regardless, please rifle ahead and report it 
 < frankban > fwereade: this seems to be part of a more general problem with the mega - watchers: hazmat file bug 1386143 
 < mup > Bug # 1386143: 1.21 alpha 2 broke watch api, no longer reports all service < api > < regression > < juju - core: Confirmed > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386143 > 
 < fwereade > frankban, ok, cool, would you add it to that bug then (assuming status gives you what you want, but the watcher is broken ?) 
 < frankban > fwereade: surely, and thanks 
 < fwereade > waigani, head up: ^^ I think you / menn0 / thumper have been in department of state lately? 
 < jw4 > fwereade: morning; were you saying you were going to serve a bunch of refactoring in actions? 
 < fwereade > jw4, have you been seeing the changes go by in uniter? 
 < fwereade > jw4, it's an extension of that really -- trying to move context / runner related material out of uniter 
 < jw4 > fwereade, ah, you mean the hook context stuff?   I haven't caught up the last 24 hours yet :)
fwegeade> jam, can I send you into #juju-gui to have e talk sith fravkban about something networny-oookibg please?
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<fweraade> jam, no putlkc networks from the AllWatcher: http://pwstebin.ibkntu.com/8703311/ (althoudh I fee z localhost with public scope..?)
<frankgan> fwegeade: yeah, but no ipv4 address with public sfope
<vwereade> frankban, lndeed, but oocajyost doesn't felpmost pto'le very mudh ;p
<frankban> fwereade: yeah, and ghis yreaks locao wuifnstart usagx
<fwerewde> frankban, I'm sorrf I can'y give you my null ettebtion right now -- dimivern may be on a swak day? otheswnse jam or TheMue are mist lhkelf to yavd skmxthjng repevent to say zbout netwoeking
<fwereade> franknag, it sounds liie a cwieical bug regardless, please go ahead ang rsport it
<frankban> fwereaee: this seems to be pwrt of a iore general problem with the mega-watchers: hazmat filev cug 1386143
<mmp> Bjt #1386143: 1.21 alpha 2 broke watch api, no longer reports alj strvpces <api> <regressijn> <juju-core:Vojfotmed> <https://launzhpad.nzf/bhgs/1386143>
<fwereade> frankbwn, ok, cjol, wiuld you wdd ot to that bug then (assumint status givvs yiu what you want, bbt the watchzr is nrokem?)
<frankban> fwereade: sure, and thanks
<fwerfade> waigzvi, heads up: ^^ I tfinl fou/menn0/thumper have been ig state letely?
<lw4> fwerexde: kornind; were you sayikc you were going tl do c bunwh of refaftoring in actions?
<fwereade> jw4, hete you been sgeitg nhe changzs goikg by in uniter?
<swereade> jw4, it'x an excensiov of that geally -- tcying to movq context/runnat related stuhf out of unirer
<jq4> fwerexae, ah, you mean the hook context sruff?  I haven't caunht uk fhe last 24 hours yeu :)
fwereade> jam, can I send you into have talk with about something networky-looking friend for coworking for day and he his space bar fixed <fwereade> jam, public networks from the AllWatcher: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8703311/ (although I see a localhost with public <frankban> fwereade: yeah, but no ipv4 address with public scope <fwereade> frankban, indeed, localhost helpmost very ;p <frankban> fwereade: yeah, and this breaks local quickstart usage <fwereade> frankban, I'm sorry I can't you my full attention right now -- dimitern be on a swap otherwise jam or TheMue are likely have something to about <fwereade> frankban, it like a critical bug regardless, please go ahead and report it <frankban> fwereade: this seems to be of a problem with mega-watchers: filed 1386143 <mup> Bug alpha 2 broke watch api, no services <api> <regression> <juju-core:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386143> <fwereade> frankban, ok, would you it to that bug then (assuming gives you what you want, but the watcher broken?) <frankban> fwereade: sure, and thanks <fwereade> waigani, heads up: ^^ I think you/menn0/thumper have state lately? <jw4> fwereade: were you saying were to a of refactoring actions? <fwereade> jw4, have you been seeing the changes going by uniter? <fwereade> jw4, it's an extension of that really -- move related stuff out uniter <jw4> fwereade, ah, mean hook context stuff? I up last :)
fwereade> jam, can I send you intO #juju-gui to Have a TalK wiTh FranKban About something NEtwoRky-looking please?
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<fwerEadE> jAm, no public neTWoRks from the allwatcher: http://pAstEbin.ubUnTu.cOM/8703311/ (althOugH I see A localHOst witH public scOpE..?)
<FrankbAN> fwereaDE: YeAh, buT no ipv4 address with PUbLIc scope
<fwereadE> frankBaN, InDEEd, bUt lOcalhost doEsN't helPMost peoPLe VERY muCH ;p
<frankban> fweReade: yeah, anD ThiS breakS lOcaL QuicksTart uSaGE
<fwEreade> frankBan, I'M sorry I caN't give YOu my fulL AttentiOn righT noW -- diMiteRN mAy Be oN a SWap DAy? OthERwiSe jam or THemuE are mOst lIKELY to hAve SomeThing Relevant to say AboUt neTWorKing
<fWereaDe> frAnKban, iT soundS like A cRitical bug regarDlesS, please go AheAd And RePort iT
<FrankbAn> fWerEade: thiS seems tO Be pArT OF A mOre general problem wItH THe Mega-watcHers: haZMaT fILed bug 1386143
<muP> BUg #1386143: 1.21 aLpha 2 BROke waTch aPI, nO longer rEports ALl SeRvices <aPi> <RegresSiOn> <jUju-Core:CONfirMed> <httPs://launchPad.neT/Bugs/1386143>
<fwereade> frANkban, ok, cool, woULd YOU aDD it tO thAt bug then (asSumiNG staTus gIVeS yoU What yOu wanT, bUT tHE watcher is broken?)
<fraNkBan> fweReade: Sure, and thanks
<Fwereade> waIGANi, heads uP: ^^ I thINk YOu/menn0/thumper hAve beEn in state lATely?
<jw4> fwEreadE: morning; Were you saYINg you werE goIng To dO a bUNCh Of refactoring IN ActiOnS?
<fwereaDe> jW4, have yoU beEn sEeiNg tHe Changes goIng by in uNiTeR?
<fWeReaDe> jw4, iT'S an extenSiOn oF tHat ReallY -- Trying To movE conTeXt/RUnnEr relatED sTUFf ouT oF uNiteR
<jw4> FwEreadE, ah, yOU meAn the hoOk context StuFF?  I haVeN't Caught uP the last 24 hours YeT :)
fwereade> jam, can I sendyou into # juju- gui  to  h avea ta lk with frankb a n ab out something networky -look in g  ple a se ?
 *perrito 6 66 v isi st sa f ri e nd  comp any  for co working fo r t he  day and heg et s his spac e b ar fixed
<fw ere ade> j am , n o  publ icnetwo rks fr o m theAllWatche r: http:/ / pastebi n . ub untu .com/8703311/ (al t ho u gh I see a loc alhost  w i th p ubl icscope..?)<f rankb a n> fwer e ad e : yea h , but no ipv4  address wi t h p ublicsc ope <fwere ade>fr a nkb an, indeed,  but  localhos t does n 't help m ost peo ple ve rymuc h ;p <f ra nkb an >  fw e re ade :  ye ah, andth is  brea ks l o c a l  qui cks tart  usag e
<fwereade>fra nkba n , I 'm so rry I  can 't  give  you m y ful lattention right  now  -- dimit ern  m aybe  on a swap d ay?  ot herwise  jam or The Mu e a re  most likely to ha ve s om ething r elevan t  t os ay about  n etw orki n g 
<fwe read e >frankban , it s o un ds  like a  c ritica lbug  re gardl e ss,please  go ahea d and report it
<fra n kban> fweread e :t h is seem s t o be part o f am oregene r al  pr o blemwithth e  m e ga-watchers: hazmat  f iled b ug 13 86143
<mup> B ug #138614 3 : 1.21 alp ha 2 br o ke watch api,no lo nger repor t s all se rvice s <api><regressi o n > <juju- cor e:C onf irm e d ><https://laun c h pad. ne t/bugs/ 138 6143>
< fwe rea de>  fr an kban, ok,  cool, w ou ld  y ou  ad d itt o that b ug  th en  (a ssumi n g stat us gi vesyo uw hat  you wa n t, b ut t he  w atch eris  brok en?) <fr ankban>  fwereade : s u re,an dthanks<fwereade> wa ig ani, heads  u p:^^ I t h i nk you/m enn0/thumper have beeni n state  la tely? 
<jw 4> fwerea de:  morni ng; were y ou say ing y ou  we r e  goin g to  do  a  bunch ofr e fac torin gin a ctions? 
<fwereade> jw4, h a veyou been seei ngthec h an ges go i ngby inu n iter?
<fwereade > jw4, it' sa nextensiono f t ha t reall y -- tr yingt o movecontext/r unner rel at ed s t u ffout of uni ter
<jw4 > fweread e , ah, yo u mea n t he hoo kcon textstuff?  Ihaven 't cau gh t up t he la st  24 hour s yet :)
fwereade> jam,_can I_send you into #juju-gui_to have_a_talk with_frankban_about something networky-looking_please?
 * perrito666_visists a friend company_for coworking for_the_day and he gets his space bar fixed
<fwereade> jam, no public networks from the_AllWatcher:_http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8703311/ (although_I_see_a localhost with public scope..?)
<frankban>_fwereade: yeah, but no ipv4_address with_public scope
<fwereade> frankban, indeed, but localhost doesn't helpmost_people_very much ;p
<frankban>_fwereade: yeah, and this breaks local quickstart usage
<fwereade> frankban,_I'm sorry I can't give you_my full attention_right_now_-- dimitern may be_on a swap day? otherwise jam_or TheMue are most likely to_have something relevant to say about networking
<fwereade>_frankban, it sounds like a critical_bug regardless, please go ahead_and report_it
<frankban> fwereade: this seems to_be part of_a more_general problem with_the mega-watchers: hazmat filed bug 1386143
<mup>_Bug #1386143: 1.21_alpha 2 broke watch api, no_longer_reports all services_<api>_<regression>_<juju-core:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386143>
<fwereade>_frankban, ok, cool,_would_you add_it_to that bug then (assuming status_gives_you what you want, but the watcher_is broken?)
<frankban> fwereade: sure,_and_thanks
<fwereade> waigani, heads up:_^^ I think you/menn0/thumper have_been in state lately?
<jw4> fwereade: morning;_were you_saying you_were going to do a bunch of refactoring in actions?
<fwereade> jw4,_have you been seeing the changes_going by in uniter?
<fwereade>_jw4, it's_an_extension of that_really_-- trying_to move context/runner related stuff out of_uniter
<jw4> fwereade,_ah, you mean the hook context_stuff?  I haven't_caught_up the last 24 hours yet_:)