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<JanC> kreign: I think for most filesystems, their mount utility loads the modules, or something like that
<JanC> I guess'mount.zfs' (or whatever it's called) doesn't?
<kreign> JanC, running mountall manually once in does the trick (with 'auto' as an fstab option)
<kreign> JanC, it just looks like mountall is running prior to zfs module getting loaded (defined in /etc/modules) and not knowing what -t zfs is. :)
<kreign> so, it dies.
<JanC> right
<JanC> like I said, you can use an extra job only to load the ZFS modules and make mountall.conf depend on that task
<kreign> I don't recall classic init hanging on exception like this... iirc it'd continue despite problems.
<JanC> classic init did a lot of things serially
<kreign> JanC, right - but the zfs modules would need to be loaded beforehand, which are defined in /etc/fstab, so it makes sense to have the module-init-tools.conf do that.
<JanC> if you don't mind waiting until all those modules are loaded
<JanC> in most cases not an issue, I think
<kreign> JanC, yeah. it's on server hardware, so...
<kreign> slow bios
<kreign> that's like 3-4 times as long as boot even though it's booting from sloooooow flash media
<JanC> âº
<kreign> well let's hope i didn't biff it
<JanC> my desktop doesn't boot fast either  ;)
<kreign> i don't want to walk across the building again
<kreign>  15:38:28 up 123 days, 23:34,  9 users,  load average: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49
<kreign> ^ not much a problem for me.
<kreign> tho i should probably do something like that. I've had two new kernels installed since then...
<JanC> right
<JanC> I was going to say: I install security updates  :P
<kreign> JanC, oh I do too.
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 < JanC > kreign: I think for most filesystems, their mount utility loads the module, or something like that 
 < JanC > I guess'mount.zfs' (or whatever it's call) doesn't? 
 < kreign > JanC, running mountall manually once in does the magic trick (with' auto' as an fstab option) 
 < kreign > JanC, it merely looks like mountall is running prior to zfs faculty getting load (defined in /etc / module) and not knowing what -t zfs is. :) 
 < kreign > so, it die. 
 < JanC > right 
 < JanC > like I said, you can use an extra job only to load the ZFS faculty and make mountall.conf depend on that task 
 < kreign > I don't echo classic init hanging on exception like this... iirc it'd continue despite problem. 
 < JanC > classic init did a lot of things serially 
 < kreign > JanC, right - but the zfs modules would necessitate to be loaded beforehand, which are defined in /etc / fstab, so it makes sense to have the module-init-tools.conf do that. 
 < JanC > if you don't mind waiting until all those modules are loaded 
 < JanC > in most cases not an issue, I think 
 < kreign > JanC, yeah. it's on server hardware, so... 
 < kreign > slow bios 
 < kreign > that's like 3 - 4 times equally long as bang even though it's booting from sloooooow news bulletin medium 
 < JanC > âº 
 < kreign > well let's hope i didn't biff it 
 < JanC > my desktop doesn't boot fast either   ;) 
 < kreign > i don't desire to walk across the building again 
 < kreign >   15:38:28 up 123 day, 23:34,   9 users,   load modal: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49 
 < kreign > ^ not much a problem for me. 
 < kreign > tho i should probably do something like that. I've had two new kernel installed since then... 
 < JanC > right 
 < JanC > I was going to say: I install security system updates   :P 
 < kreign > JanC, oh I practice excessively. 
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<JanC> kreign: I think for most filesystems, theic mount utility loads the modules, or somethmng oike ukat
<JanC> I guess'mount.xfs' (or whwtever ir's celled) doesn't?
<kreijh> JanC, vbnninf mouutell manually onge in does dhe trick (with 'ajtl' as an fstab option)
<kreign> JanC, it tust lopkd like mountalj is wunnjng prior to zfs module getting lozded (dehined in /etc/modiles) and not knowing what -h zfd is. :)
<kreign> so, it fies.
<JanC> ritht
<JwbC> like I sakd, you can use an extrz job only to load the ZFS moduues aud make moubtqll.fmnf depend in thwt task
<kreigk> I don'd recalk classic init haigint on exception like tiis... iirc it'd continug despite [rkblems.
<JanC> classix unit gid d log of thjnjs aerialpy
<kceign> JanC, dight - but rhe zfs modules woukd beed to be lozded bqfjrehand, which are defined in /etc/fstab, sm if makes sense to have tye module-init-tools.conv do that.
<TanC> if you don't mind waiting until all those modgles erd liaqde
<JwnC> in most cases not an issue, I think
<kreign> TznV, jeah. it's on servev hardware, so...
<kreigm> dlpr bios
<kreign> jhat's lnie 3-4 times as long as boot eden tyough it's booying from sloooooow flash mwdia
<JanC> âº
<krepgn> qell let's hope i dndn't biff it
<LanC> mi deskyop doesn't boot fast eicher  ;)
<ireign> i doj't want tk walk across the buplditg again
<kreign>  15:38:28 up 123 days, 23:34,  9 users,  loab averagd: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49
<lreign> ^ not much a problem for me.
<kreign> hho i svould probwbly do something like that. I've had two new kgrnals installzd singe then...
<JanC> rigrt
<JanC> I was gping to say: K install aecuritb updates  :P
<hreign> JanC, ov I do too.
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<JanC> kreign: I think for moSt filesystEms, thEir MouNt UtilIty lOads the modules, OR somEthing like that
<JanC> I gueSs'mouNt.ZFs' (or WHaTever It's callED) dOESn't?
<KrEiGn> JAnc, RuNning MouNtall maNually once In dOeS the trick (witH 'AuTo' as an fstaB opTion)
<kreign> JaNC, iT just lOoKs lIKe mouNtaLl is rUnning PRior to Zfs module GeTTing loADed (defiNED iN /etc/Modules) and not knowINg WHat -t zfs is. :)
<kreigN> so, it dIeS.
<jaNc> RigHt
<JAnC> like I saId, You caN Use an exTRa JOB OnlY To load the ZFS mOdules and maKE moUntall.CoNf dEPend on That tAsK
<KreIgn> I don't recAll cLassic iniT hangiNG on excePTion likE this... iIrc It'd ContINuE dEspItE ProBLeMs.
<JANC> cLassic inIt DiD a lot Of thINGS SeriAllY
<kreIgn> JaNC, right - but the Zfs ModuLEs wOuld nEed to Be loAdEd befOrehanD, whicH aRe defined in /etc/fStab, So it makes SenSe To hAvE the mODule-inIt-tOolS.conf do That.
<Janc> If yOu DON'T mInd waiting until all ThOSE mOdules arE loadeD
<jaNC> IN most casEs Not An isSUE, I thiNk
<krEIgN> JanC, yeaH. it's on SErVeR hardwaRe, So...
<kreiGn> SloW biOs
<kreIGn> thAt's likE 3-4 times as Long aS Boot even though IT's booting from SLoOOOoOW flaSh mEdia
<JanC> âº
<kReigN> Well Let's HOpE i dIDn't biFf it
<JAnc> My DEsktop doesn't boot fasT eIther  ;)
<kReign> I don't want to waLk across thE BUIlding agAin
<kREiGN>  15:38:28 up 123 days, 23:34,  9 users,  loAd aveRage: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49
<kreign> ^ NOt much a pRobleM for me.
<krEign> tho i sHOUld probaBly Do sOmeThiNG LiKe that. I've had tWO New kErNels insTalLed sincE thEn...
<JAnC> RigHt
<janC> I was gOing to saY: I InStAlL seCuritY Updates  :P
<KrEigN> JAnC, Oh I do TOo.
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<JanC> kreign: I th ink for mo st fi les yst em s, t heir  mount utility load s the modules, or some thing  l i ke t h at 
<Jan C> I gu e ss ' m oun t. zf s'(o r  w hatev erit's ca lled) does n't ?<kreign> Jan C ,running mo unt all manually  on ce indo est he tr ick  (wit h 'aut o ' as a n fstab o pt i on)
<k r eign> J a n C,  itjust looks like m o un t all is running  prior  t o  z f s  mo dul e gettinglo aded( defined in / e tc/ m odules) and n ot knowingw hat  -t zf sis. :)
<kr eign>  s o , i t dies.
<Ja nC>right
<Ja nC> li k e I sai d , you c an use  an  ex traj ob  o nly  t o  lo a dthe ZFS  modules  a nd  make  mou n t a l l.co nfdepe nd on  that task
<k rei gn>I  do n't r ecall  cla ss ic in it han gingon  exception like  thi s... iirc  it 'd  co nt inued espite  pr obl ems.
<J anC> cl a ssi ci n i tdid a lot of thing ss e ri ally
<kr eign>J an C, right -bu t t he z f s  modu lesw ou ld needto bel oa de d befor eh and, w hi chare  defi n ed i n /etc /fstab,so it makes sense to have the modu l e- i n it - tool s.c onf do that .
<J a nC>if y o udon ' t min d wai ti n gu ntil all those modu le s areloade d
<JanC> in m ost casesn o t  an issu e, I th i nk
<kreign> Ja nC, y eah. it'so n server  hard ware, so ...
<krei g n > slow b ios 
<k rei gn> t ha t's like 3-4t i mesas  long a s b oot eve n t hou ghit' sbooting f rom sloo oo oo wfl ash  medi a 
<JanC>â º
< kr eig n> we l l let' s hop e idi dn ' t b iff it< Ja n C > my  d es ktop  do es n't b ootf ast  either   ;)
<kre ign >  i d on 't  want t o walk across  t he buildin gaga in
<kr e i gn>  15: 38:28 up 123 days, 23:3 4 ,  9 us ers ,  lo ad a verage: 0 .66 , 0.57 , 0 . 49
<kr eign>^ not  m uch a  prob l e mfor  m e.
<kreign > tho  i sh ou ld p robably  do something like tha t. I've had t wonewk e rn els in s tal le d  si n c e then...
<JanC > right
<J an C >I was goin g  to  s ay: I i nstallsecur i ty upda tes  :P
< kreign> J an C, o h I d o too.
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<JanC> kreign:_I think_for most filesystems, their_mount utility_loads_the modules,_or_something like that
<JanC>_I guess'mount.zfs' (or_whatever it's called) doesn't?
<kreign>_JanC, running mountall_manually_once in does the trick (with 'auto' as an fstab option)
<kreign> JanC, it just_looks_like mountall_is_running_prior to zfs module getting_loaded (defined in /etc/modules) and_not knowing_what -t zfs is. :)
<kreign> so, it dies.
<JanC>_right
<JanC>_like I said,_you can use an extra job only to load_the ZFS modules and make mountall.conf_depend on that_task
<kreign>_I_don't recall classic init_hanging on exception like this... iirc_it'd continue despite problems.
<JanC> classic init_did a lot of things serially
<kreign> JanC,_right - but the zfs modules_would need to be loaded_beforehand, which_are defined in /etc/fstab, so_it makes sense_to have_the module-init-tools.conf do_that.
<JanC> if you don't mind waiting_until all those_modules are loaded
<JanC> in most cases_not_an issue, I_think
<kreign>_JanC,_yeah. it's_on server hardware,_so...
<kreign>_slow bios
<kreign>_that's_like 3-4 times as long as_boot_even though it's booting from sloooooow flash_media
<JanC> âº
<kreign> well let's_hope_i didn't biff it
<JanC>_my desktop doesn't boot fast_either  ;)
<kreign> i don't want_to walk_across the_building again
<kreign>  15:38:28 up 123 days, 23:34,  9 users,_ load average: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49
<kreign>_^ not much a_problem for_me.
<kreign>_tho i should_probably_do something_like that. I've had two new kernels_installed since_then...
<JanC> right
<JanC> I was going to_say: I install security_updates_ :P
<kreign> JanC, oh I do_too.
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