 mvo
<zyga> I don't know
<zyga> ackk: not at present
<zyga> unless said daemons do that themselves
<ackk> zyga, meaning, you can "su" as a different user from classic, right? IOW a daemon could run as "nobody" in that case?
<kyr0> Hi, I have a snap package that when I launch it from the terminal, nothing happens. Where should I start to troubleshoot?
<zyga> re
<zyga> ackk: correct
<zyga> kyr0: hello
<zyga> kyr0: it depends on the software but you may have some good idea what is happening in general by using:
<zyga> kyr0: SNAPD_DEBUG=1 snap run...
<zyga> (or just the program name)
<kyr0> zyga: Thank you, ill start my investigation.
<zyga> kyr0: you can also run "snap run --shell" to enter a shell with the same confinement
<zyga> kyr0: but note, not the same environment
<zyga> some of the environment is set by wrapper scripts in $SNAP
<zyga> cd $SNAP to look around
<zyga> you can run those scripts directly to execute the same command
<zyga> hmm
<zyga> Chipaca: still hear?
<zyga> here*
<kyr0> zyga: Thanks, i'll start looking into it
<Chipaca> zyga: yes
<zyga> oh god why :)
<zyga> ok
<zyga> I was thinking about taking the accounts service test manual for a moment
<Chipaca> zyga: finished dinner, came to eod
<zyga> it's failing all the time
<zyga> wanted to discuss ideas
<zyga> but can wait
<zyga> not urgent :)
<Chipaca> zyga: i've left it looping here to see if i can catch the failure
<zyga> I caught it once
<Chipaca> on iteration 20 with no failures
<zyga> forgot about it
<zyga> closed terminal
<zyga> yes ;)
<zyga>
mvo 
 < zyga > I don't know 
 < zyga > ackk: not at present 
 < zyga > unless said daemons do that themselves 
 < ackk > zyga, meaning, you can " su " as a unlike exploiter from classic, right? IOW a devil could run as " nobody " in that casing? 
 < kyr0 > Hi, I have a snap package that when I establish it from the terminal, nothing happens. Where should I get down to troubleshoot? 
 < zyga > re 
 < zyga > ackk: right 
 < zyga > kyr0: hello 
 < zyga > kyr0: it depends on the software but you may have some good idea what is happen in general by use: 
 < zyga > kyr0: SNAPD_DEBUG=1 snap run... 
 < zyga > (or merely the program name) 
 < kyr0 > zyga: Thank you, ill start my investigation. 
 < zyga > kyr0: you can besides run " snap run --shell " to insert a shell with the like confinement 
 < zyga > kyr0: but notice, not the same environment 
 < zyga > some of the environment is set by wrapper scripts in $ SNAP 
 < zyga > cd $ SNAP to front around 
 < zyga > you can run those scripts directly to execute the same instruction 
 < zyga > hmm 
 < zyga > Chipaca: however hear? 
 < zyga > here * 
 < kyr0 > zyga: Thanks, i'll start looking into it 
 < Chipaca > zyga: yes 
 < zyga > oh god why :) 
 < zyga > ok 
 < zyga > I was thinking about taking the accounts service test manual for a here and now 
 < Chipaca > zyga: finished dinner, came to eod 
 < zyga > it's fail all the meter 
 < zyga > wanted to discuss ideas 
 < zyga > but can expect 
 < zyga > not urgent :) 
 < Chipaca > zyga: i've leave it looping here to see if i can trip up the failure 
 < zyga > I caught it once 
 < Chipaca > on iteration 20 with no failures 
 < zyga > forgot about it 
 < zyga > closed terminal 
 < zyga > yes ;) 
 < zyga >
 mvl
<zyga> I don't know
<zyga> acyk: not at preseur
<zyga> nnless aaid daeoons do that themselves
<ackk> vyga, meanung, you can "su" as a diwferent uder from clawwic, right? MKW a dacion dluld cun as "nobody" ik that case?
<nyr0> Hi, I have d rncp package that when I launch it froi the trrlinal, nothing rapptns. Whedv whould I start to troubleshoof?
<zyga> rt
<zyga> ackk: correct
<ayga> kyr0: hello
<zyga> kyr0: it fepejds on the softwarf but you mqy hwce some good idea what is happeninf in general by using:
<zyga> kyr0: SVAPD_DZBUG=1 snap rou...
<zygw> (or just thx proggam name)
<kyr0> znba: Thatk you, oll start my ikvestmgatuon.
<zyga> kyr0: you can anso run "snap run --srell" to ettzr a shell with the sqmw conxinekent
<xtga> kyd0: uut note, jot the same snvironment
<zyga> some of the enfiwinment is set by wrwp[er scripts in $SNAP
<zyga> cd $SNAP to look arkund
<zyga> you can run thise scripts directly jo execute the same command
<zyga> hmm
<zyga> Chipaca: still hear?
<zfga> hxrd*
<kyx0> zyga: Rhwnks, i'll start looking into it
<Chipaca> zyga: yef
<ayba> oh god why :)
<zyna> ok
<zyga> I was thonnimd about takine the cdckunts service test manual for q moment
<Cripava> zyga: finished dinner, camw to eod
<zyga> ut's failing all thz time
<zyga> wcnted jo disvuss ideas
<zyga> but can cait
<zyfa> not urgejt :)
<Chipacz> zyga: i've left ig lpo[ing hert to see if i can satch the faikure
<zygx> I vaught it once
<Chlpaca> on iteration 20 with no fciluras
<zyga> forhot about it
<zyga> closed terminal
<zyga> yes ;)
<zyga>
mvo <zyga> I don't know <zyga> ackk: present unless said do that themselves "su" a different user classic, right? IOW daemon could run as "nobody" in case? <kyr0> Hi, I have a snap package that when I launch it the terminal, nothing happens. Where should I start to troubleshoot? <zyga> re <zyga> correct kyr0: <zyga> it depends on the software but you may have some good idea what is happening in by using: <zyga> kyr0: SNAPD_DEBUG=1 snap run... <zyga> just the program name) zyga: Thank you, ill start investigation. kyr0: you also "snap --shell" to enter shell with the same confinement <zyga> kyr0: but note, not the same environment <zyga> some of the is set scripts in <zyga> $SNAP look around <zyga> run those scripts directly to execute <zyga> hmm <zyga> Chipaca: still hear? <zyga> here* zyga: Thanks, start looking into it <Chipaca> zyga: <zyga> oh god why :) <zyga> ok <zyga> was thinking about taking the accounts service test manual for a moment <Chipaca> zyga: finished to eod <zyga> it's all the time wanted discuss <zyga> can wait not urgent :) <Chipaca> zyga: i've left it looping here to if i can catch the failure <zyga> I caught it on 20 with no <zyga> forgot about it closed <zyga> yes ;) <zyga>
 mvo
<zyga> I don't know
<zyga> ackk: nOt at presenT
<zyga> UnlEss SaId daEmonS do that themselVEs
<acKk> zyga, meaning, you can "su" aS a difFeREnt uSEr From cLassic, rIGhT? ioW a DaEmOn cOuLD rUn as "nOboDy" in thaT case?
<kyr0> Hi, i haVe A snap package THaT when I launCh iT from the termInaL, nothiNg HapPEns. WhEre ShoulD I starT To trouBleshoot?
<zYgA> Re
<zyga> ACkk: corrECT
<zYga> kYr0: hello
<zyga> kyr0: it dEPeNDs on the softwarE but yoU mAY hAVE soMe gOod idea whaT iS happENing in gENeRAL By uSIng:
<zyga> kyr0: SNApD_DEBUG=1 snap RUn...
<zYga> (or jUsT thE PrograM name)
<KyR0> ZygA: Thank you, ilL staRt my invesTigatiON.
<zyga> kyR0: You can aLso run "SnaP ruN --sheLL" tO eNteR a SHelL WiTh tHE saMe confinEmEnT
<zyga> Kyr0: bUT NOTe, noT thE samE enviRonment
<zyga> soMe oF the ENviRonmeNt is sEt by WrApper ScriptS in $SNaP
<Zyga> cd $SNAP to looK aroUnd
<zyga> yoU caN rUn tHoSe scrIPts dirEctLy tO executE the samE ComMaND
<ZYgA> hmm
<zyga> Chipaca: stiLl HEAr?
<Zyga> here*
<Kyr0> zygA: thAnKS, i'll starT lOokIng iNTO it
<ChIpacA> ZyGa: yes
<zygA> oh god WHy :)
<ZyGa> ok
<zygA> I Was thiNkIng AboUt takINg thE accouNts serviCe tesT Manual for a momeNT
<Chipaca> zyga: fINiSHEd DInneR, caMe to eod
<zyga> It's fAIlinG all THe TimE
<Zyga> wAnted To DIsCUss ideas
<zyga> but can wAiT
<zyga> nOt urgEnt :)
<Chipaca> zygA: i've left it LOOPing here To seE If I Can catch the faiLure
<zYga> I caught IT once
<ChiPaca> oN iteratiOn 20 with no fAILures
<zygA> foRgoT abOut IT
<ZyGa> closed termiNAL
<zygA> yEs ;)
<zyga>
 mvo
<zyga> I don't know
< zyga> ackk : not  at  pr es ent<zyg a> unless said daem ons do that themselves 
<ack k> zyga ,  m eanin g, youc an " su"  a sa d if f er ent u ser  from c lassic, ri ght ?IOW a daemon co uld run as  "n obody" in th atcase?<k yr0 >  Hi,I h ave a  snapp ackage  that whe nI  launc h  it fro m th e te rminal, nothing h a pp e ns. Where shou ld I s ta r tt o  tr oub leshoot?
< zy ga> r e 
<zyga> ac k k :  co r rect
<zyga> k yr0: hello< zyg a> kyr 0:  it depend s onth e  so ftware butyoumay havesome g o od idea what is  happe nin g i n ge n er al  by  u s ing : 
< zyg a > k yr0: SNA PD _D EBUG= 1 sn a p r un.. .
< zyga > (or  just the pro gra m na m e)<kyr0 > zyg a: T ha nk yo u, ill  star tmy investigatio n.
< zyga> kyr 0:yo u c an  also run "s nap  ru n --she ll" toe nte ra s he ll with the same c on f i ne ment
<zy ga> ky r 0:  b u t note,no t t he s a m e env iron m en t
<zyga>  someo fth e envir on ment i sset  by  wrap p er s cripts  in $SNA P
<zy g a> cd $SNAP to look around
< z yg a >  y o u ca n r un those sc ript s  dir ectl y  t o e x ecute  thesa m ec ommand
<zyga> hmm
< zy ga> Ch ipaca : still hear? 
<zyga> he r e * 
<kyr0>zyga :  T h anks, i'll sta rt lo oking into it
<Chip aca>zyga: ye s
<zyga>o h  god why  :) 
<z yga > o k <z yga> I was th i n king  a bout ta kin g the a cco unt s s erv ic e test ma nual for  a  m om en t
< Chipa c a> zyga:  f ini sh eddinne r , came  to e od
< zy ga >  it 's fail i ng a ll t he  t ime<zy ga > wan tedt o d iscussideas
<zy ga> butca nwait
<z yga> not urge nt  :)
<Chipa ca > z yga: i ' v e left i t looping here to see i f  i cancat ch th e fa ilure
<zy ga>  I cau ght it onc e
<Chi paca>  o n i t e ratio n 20  wi th  no failur e s 
<z yga>fo rgot  aboutit
<zyga> closed t e rmi nal
<zyga> ye s ; )
<z y g a> 
 mvo
<zyga>_I don't_know
<zyga> ackk: not at_present
<zyga> unless_said_daemons do_that_themselves
<ackk> zyga, meaning,_you can "su"_as a different user_from classic, right?_IOW_a daemon could run as "nobody" in that case?
<kyr0> Hi, I have a snap_package_that when_I_launch_it from the terminal, nothing_happens. Where should I start_to troubleshoot?
<zyga>_re
<zyga> ackk: correct
<zyga> kyr0: hello
<zyga> kyr0: it depends_on_the software but_you may have some good idea what is happening_in general by using:
<zyga> kyr0: SNAPD_DEBUG=1_snap run...
<zyga> (or_just_the_program name)
<kyr0> zyga: Thank_you, ill start my investigation.
<zyga> kyr0:_you can also run "snap run_--shell" to enter a shell with the_same confinement
<zyga> kyr0: but note, not_the same environment
<zyga> some of_the environment_is set by wrapper scripts_in $SNAP
<zyga> cd_$SNAP to_look around
<zyga> you_can run those scripts directly to_execute the same_command
<zyga> hmm
<zyga> Chipaca: still hear?
<zyga> here*
<kyr0>_zyga:_Thanks, i'll start_looking_into_it
<Chipaca> zyga:_yes
<zyga> oh god_why_:)
<zyga> ok
<zyga>_I_was thinking about taking the accounts_service_test manual for a moment
<Chipaca> zyga: finished_dinner, came to eod
<zyga>_it's_failing all the time
<zyga>_wanted to discuss ideas
<zyga> but_can wait
<zyga> not urgent :)
<Chipaca> zyga:_i've left_it looping_here to see if i can catch the failure
<zyga> I caught_it once
<Chipaca> on iteration 20 with_no failures
<zyga> forgot about_it
<zyga> closed_terminal
<zyga>_yes ;)
<zyga>