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<markjones> devush, should run fine in a VM
<matti> ivanka: Thanks :)
<czajkowski> ivanka: aloha there! long time no see
<devush> ok. basically i want to run ubuntu as i always do, but taking the mac as it is very light. could not see any alternative. probably later on i will give try to get it directly on mac-air.
<devush> i heard there are issues in installing it on mac-air. especially booting it from the external drive etc. so called bootcamp also does not works with ubuntu i heard.
<popey> devush: i run ubuntu on my mac
<popey> devush: its not perfect
<popey> i use bootcamp
<devush> popey, how you installed.
<devush> ok.
<markjones> I used Virtualbox
<popey> i used bootcamp to partition the drive up, and then installed refit to give me a boot loader
<popey> then installed ubuntu on the second partition
<popey> its a macbook pro
<devush> not perfect. is it better to run on the VM then. I will be doing java developement with eclispe etc. i will have 4GB macair.
<popey> define "better" :)
<devush> as there is no DVD etc. drive on mac-air. i heard that only the mac DVD drive can boot from other OS. So i am not sure, how i will boot from ubuntu to install it.
<popey> ah yes, dunno how it works on the macbook air
<czajkowski> *sigh* today is not going well
<czajkowski> :(
<devush> thanks anyway. i will update once i will get the mac delivered.
<Neoti1> ok 3ware it is
<markjones> devush, you do know that you can install ubuntu via a USB Drive?
<popey> markjones: how do you get the mac to boot from usb?
<ivanka> czajkowski: hello hello!
<ivanka> czajkowski: are you better today?
<markjones> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948
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 < markjones > devush, should run fine in a VM 
 < matti > ivanka: Thanks :) 
 < czajkowski > ivanka: aloha there! long meter no see 
 < devush > ok. basically i desire to run ubuntu as i always cause, but take the mac as it is very light. could not experience any option. probably later on i will give try to catch it directly on mac - atmosphere. 
 < devush > i hear there are topic in installing it on mac - air. particularly booting it from the external drive etc. so call bootcamp also does not works with ubuntu i heard. 
 < popey > devush: i run ubuntu on my mac 
 < popey > devush: its not arrant 
 < popey > i use bootcamp 
 < devush > popey, how you install. 
 < devush > ok. 
 < markjones > I used Virtualbox 
 < popey > i used bootcamp to partition the drive up, and then install refit to give me a boot loader 
 < popey > then installed ubuntu on the second partition 
 < popey > its a macbook professional 
 < devush > not arrant. is it adept to run on the VM then. I will be doing java developement with eclispe etc. i will have 4 GB macair. 
 < popey > define " better " :) 
 < devush > as there is no DVD etc. drive on mac - breeze. i heard that only the mac DVD driveway can boot from early OS. indeed i am not sure, how i will boot from ubuntu to install it. 
 < popey > ah yes, dunno how it works on the macbook tune 
 < czajkowski > * sigh * today is not going well 
 < czajkowski > :( 
 < devush > thanks anyway. i will update once i will get the mac delivered. 
 < Neoti1 > ok 3ware it is 
 < markjones > devush, you do acknowledge that you can install ubuntu via a USB Drive? 
 < popey > markjones: how do you get the mac to boot from usb? 
 < ivanka > czajkowski: hello hello! 
 < ivanka > czajkowski: are you better today? 
 < markjones > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948 
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<markjones> devush, shound run fine in a VM
<matti> ivanka: Thanks :)
<czaokowwki> icanka: aloha there! long time no dee
<devusy> ok. vasically m want to run hnuntu es i always do, nut taking dhe mac as it hs vzry light. could not see any alternatyve. pronahly later on i wilk givs try to get it directly on mac-air.
<sevush> p heard there are issues in installing it oj maf-air. especially bolting it frim trw external dfive etc. so called boojcamp also does not works with ucuntu i heard.
<pokzt> dfeush: i run nbuntu on my mac
<poivy> devuvh: its mot perfect
<popcy> i nse vootcamp
<devush> popey, iow you installed.
<devosh> ok.
<markboues> I used Virtualbox
<popey> i useg bourcaop uo 'arfition thx drive up, znd then inwtalled refit to gife ne a boot loaser
<popqy> then installed ubuntu on the second pagtitjon
<popey> its a macbook pro
<devush> not perfect. is it beeter to run on the VM then. I will be doing java davelo'eoenu qith dxllspe etc. i will have 4GB macair.
<popey> define "beefet" :)
<cevush> as therc is no DVD etc. drovf pg mac-air. i hexrd thcf knly the mac DVD dgive cag boor from otrer PS. So i am not sure, how i wull boot froi ubuntu to install it.
<popey> ah yes, dunnp how it works on the mccbook air
<czajkowdki> *sigh* fuday is not goine wvll
<csajkowski> :(
<devush> thanks anrway. i wiol u'date onze i will det the maf delleered.
<Neoti1> ok 3ware it id
<mdrkjones> dfvush, you do know that you can mistall ubuntu vha d USB Drnve?
<popcy> markjones: hor do you get tke mac tj boog from usb?
<pvanka> czejkowski: heljo hello!
<ivankd> czajkowski: ere you bqttee toeay?
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when the opportunity arises <markjones> devush, should in VM <matti> Thanks :) <czajkowski> no <devush> ok. basically want to run as i always do, but taking mac as it is very light. could not see any alternative. probably later i will give try to get it directly on mac-air. <devush> i heard are in it mac-air. especially booting it from the external drive etc. so called bootcamp also does not works ubuntu i heard. <popey> devush: i run ubuntu my mac <popey> devush: not perfect <popey> i use <devush> how you <devush> <markjones> used Virtualbox <popey> used bootcamp to partition the drive up, and then installed refit to give me a boot loader then installed the second <popey> a pro <devush> not it better to run on the will be doing java developement with eclispe etc. will have macair. <popey> define "better" :) <devush> there is no DVD etc. drive on mac-air. heard that only the mac DVD drive can boot from other OS. So i am how i will boot ubuntu to install <popey> yes, how works on macbook air <czajkowski> *sigh* today is not going well <czajkowski> :( thanks anyway. i will update once i will get the <Neoti1> 3ware it is devush, you do know you install ubuntu via a <popey> how the to from usb? <ivanka> czajkowski: hello! <ivanka> czajkowski: are you today? <markjones> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948 <
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<mArkjones> deVush, sHouLd rUn Fine In a Vm
<matti> ivanka: ThANks :)
<cZajkowski> ivanka: aloha thEre! loNg TIme nO SeE
<devuSh> ok. basICaLLY i wAnT tO ruN uBUnTu as i AlwAys do, buT taking the Mac As It is very lighT. CoUld not see aNy aLternative. prObaBly latEr On i WIll giVe tRy to gEt it diREctly oN mac-air.
<deVuSH> i hearD There arE ISsUes iN installing it on maC-AiR. Especially bootIng it fRoM ThE EXteRnaL drive etc. sO cAlled BOotcamp ALsO DOEs nOT works with ubuNtu i heard.
<poPEy> dEvush: i RuN ubUNtu on mY mac
<pOpEY> deVush: its not pErfeCt
<popey> i uSe bootCAmp
<devuSH> popey, hOw you iNstAllEd.
<deVUsH> oK.
<maRkJOneS> i uSed vIrtUalbox
<poPeY> i Used bOotcAMP TO parTitIon tHe driVe up, and then inStaLled REfiT to giVe me a Boot LoAder
<pOpey> thEn insTaLled ubuntu on the SecoNd partitiOn
<pOpEy> iTs A macbOOk pro
<dEvuSh> nOt perfeCt. is it bETteR tO RUN oN the VM then. I will be dOiNG JaVa develoPement WItH eCLispe etc. I wIll Have 4gb MacaiR.
<popEY> dEfine "betTer" :)
<devUSh> As There is No dVD etc. DrIve On mAc-air. I HearD that oNly the maC DVD dRIve can boot from OTher OS. So i am noT SuRE, HoW I wilL boOt from ubuntU to iNStalL it.
<pOPeY> ah YEs, dunNo how It WOrKS on the macbook air
<czaJkOwski> *sIgh* toDay is not going Well
<czajkoWSKI> :(
<devush> tHankS AnYWay. i will update Once i Will get the MAc deliveRed.
<NeOti1> ok 3warE it is
<markJONes> devusH, yoU do KnoW thAT YoU can install ubUNTu viA a uSB DrivE?
<poPey> markJonEs: hOw dO yoU gEt the mac tO boot froM uSb?
<IvAnKa> cZajkoWSki: hello HeLlo!
<IvAnkA> czajKOwski: aRe you BettEr ToDAy?
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<markjo nes>dev ush ,shou ld r un fine in a V M 
<ma tti> ivanka: Thanks :) 
<cza jk o wski >  i vanka : aloha th e r e!lo ng  ti me no  see<de vush> o k. basical lyiwant to runu bu ntu as i a lwa ys do, but t aki ng the  m aca s itisverylight. couldnot see a ny altern a tive. p r o ba blylater on i will g i ve try to get itdirect ly on m ac- air .
<devush>  i  hear d  therea re i s sue s  in installin g it on mac - air . espe ci all y  booti ng it  f r omthe externa l dr ive etc.so cal l ed boot c amp als o does  no t w orks wi th  ub un t u i he ard . 
<p opey> de vu sh : i r un u b u n t u on  my  mac 
<pop ey> devush: i tsnotp erf ect
< popey > ius e boo tcamp<devu sh > popey, how yo u in stalled.<de vu sh>  o k.
<m a rkjone s>I u sed Vir tualbox <po pe y > iused bootcamp to p ar t i ti on the d rive u p ,an d  then in st all ed r e f it to  giv e  m e a boot  loade r 
< po pey> th en  insta ll edubu ntu o n  the  secon d partit ion
< p opey> its a ma c book pro
<dev u sh > no t  per fec t. is it be tter to r un o n  t heV M the n. Iwi l lb e doing java develo pe ment w ith e clispe etc. i  will have 4 G B macair .
<p o pe y > define "bett er" : )
<devush> as there  is n o DVD et c. driveo n  mac-air . i  he ard  th a t  o nly the mac D V D  dri ve  can bo otfrom ot her  OS . S o i  a m not sur e, how i  w il lbo otfromu buntu to  i nst al l i t.
<p o pey> a h yes , du nn oh owit work s  o n thema cb ookair 
< czajk owsk i > * sigh* t oday is n otg oing  w el l
<czaj kowski> :(
<d ev ush> thank sany way. i w ill upda te once i will get them ac deli ver ed.
< Neot i1> ok 3w are  it is 
<m a rkjone s> dev ush,yo u d o knowt h at  yo ucan instal l ubu ntu v ia  a U SB Driv e?
<popey> markjon e s:how do you ge t t he m a c  t o b o ot fro mu sb? < ivanka> czajkow ski: hello  h e ll o!
<ivanka >  cz aj kowski:  are yo u bet t er toda y?
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<markjones> devush, should run_fine in_a_VM
<matti> ivanka:_Thanks_:)
<czajkowski> ivanka: aloha_there! long time_no see
<devush> ok. basically_i want to_run_ubuntu as i always do, but taking the mac as it is very light._could_not see_any_alternative._probably later on i will_give try to get it_directly on_mac-air.
<devush> i heard there are issues in installing_it_on mac-air. especially_booting it from the external drive etc. so called_bootcamp also does not works with_ubuntu i heard.
<popey>_devush:_i_run ubuntu on my_mac
<popey> devush: its not perfect
<popey> i_use bootcamp
<devush> popey, how you installed.
<devush>_ok.
<markjones> I used Virtualbox
<popey> i used bootcamp_to partition the drive up, and_then installed refit to give_me a_boot loader
<popey> then installed ubuntu_on the second_partition
<popey> its_a macbook pro
<devush>_not perfect. is it better to_run on the_VM then. I will be doing_java_developement with eclispe_etc._i_will have_4GB macair.
<popey> define_"better"_:)
<devush> as_there_is no DVD etc. drive on_mac-air._i heard that only the mac DVD_drive can boot from_other_OS. So i am_not sure, how i will_boot from ubuntu to install it.
<popey>_ah yes,_dunno how_it works on the macbook air
<czajkowski> *sigh* today is not going_well
<czajkowski> :(
<devush> thanks anyway. i will_update once i will_get the_mac_delivered.
<Neoti1> ok 3ware_it_is
<markjones> devush,_you do know that you can install_ubuntu via_a USB Drive?
<popey> markjones: how do_you get the mac_to_boot from usb?
<ivanka> czajkowski: hello hello!
<ivanka>_czajkowski: are you better today?
<markjones> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948
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