y> user82: unlikely
<ubuntubhoy> the question is how hard to port?
<bobweaver> not that hard with things like qt-exporter
<popey> no, i think the question is "can I run android apps directly on ubuntu phone"
<ubuntubhoy> BB have made fantastic tools for porting android apps to BB10
<ubuntubhoy> popey: I mean the follow up after your answer
<ubuntubhoy> not the original question
<bobweaver> that is the cool thing about qml it is super super easy to work with and there are fast things like xmllistModel that are faster then webapps I would say
<bobweaver> There are some bugs that I still can not get around like QWebView crashes because of stupid gtk
<bobweaver> like in my tv menu that querys my backend tv server
<bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/241468  << everything works great till flash comes into play. and yes I have pluginsEnabled but crash's saying that gtk 2 and gtk 3 can not be used together
<bobweaver> webkit is gtk3 and some stuff in unity 2d is still gtk2 like panel. hence crash's
<bobweaver> but I can watch big buck bunny and other things that are webm :/
<bobweaver> If you or anyone would like to play with or use stuff that I have made there is a ppa for 12.04 But one should only try virtual I would say
<bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/~u2t/+archive/bleedingedge
<sivang> bobweaver: XmlListModel a true workhorse in 5 I htink it supports JSON
<bobweaver> sivang,  that is awesome. Got to love Models
<bobweaver> sivang,  that is my new years resolution is to port unity 2d to qt5
<bobweaver> have to re-write all the backend stuff though as no qx11info in qt5
<sivang> I see.
<bobweaver> yeah there is all the Window and WindowInfo plugin stuff that is heavy on the qx11info stuff
<k1l_> since the hardware requirements for the high end ubuntu phone
y > user82: unlikely 
 < ubuntubhoy > the question is how hard to port? 
 < bobweaver > not that hard with thing like qt - exporter 
 < popey > no, i remember the question is " can I run android apps directly on ubuntu earphone " 
 < ubuntubhoy > BB have made fantastic cock for port android apps to BB10 
 < ubuntubhoy > popey: I mean the follow up after your solution 
 < ubuntubhoy > not the original doubt 
 < bobweaver > that is the cool thing about qml it is ace super easy to work with and there are firm things like xmllistModel that are faster then webapps I would say 
 < bobweaver > There are some bugs that I however cannot get around like QWebView crashes because of stupid gtk 
 < bobweaver > like in my television receiver menu that querys my backend tv server 
 < bobweaver > http://imagebin.org/241468   < < everything works bang-up till flash comes into play. and yes I have pluginsEnabled but crash's saying that gtk 2 and gtk 3 cannot be use together 
 < bobweaver > webkit is gtk3 and some stuff in unity 2d is still gtk2 like panel. therefore crash's 
 < bobweaver > but I can determine adult buck bunny and other things that are webm :/ 
 < bobweaver > If you or anyone would like to play with or use stuff that I have made there embody a ppa for 12.04 But one should only try virtual I would suppose 
 < bobweaver > https://launchpad.net/~u2t/+archive/bleedingedge 
 < sivang > bobweaver: XmlListModel a on-key workhorse in 5 I htink it supports JSON 
 < bobweaver > sivang,   that is awesome. get to love Models 
 < bobweaver > sivang,   that is my new class resolution is to port unity 2d to qt5 
 < bobweaver > have to re - write all the backend stuff though as no qx11info in qt5 
 < sivang > I see. 
 < bobweaver > yeah there is all the Window and WindowInfo plugin stuff that is heavy on the qx11info stuff 
 < k1l _ > since the hardware requirements for the eminent end ubuntu telephone
y> uder82: unlikely
<ubuntubhoy> tme question is how hard to podt?
<bobweaxer> not that hard with thingd oike wt-exporter
<popey> no, i tfink the euestion is "ran I run androiv apps dlxectlg on bbnntu phone"
<ubuntobhoy> BB hava made fantasthc tlols for porting android apps to BB10
<tbuntubnoj> popey: I mean the sollkw up after your answer
<ubuntubhoy> hot the original quextion
<bobweaver> that is the coop thing about qml lt is super supqe easy to wofk with and there are rast things like xmllistModel tfat axe faster tyeb wftapps I wouod saj
<bobweaver> Thcge are vome bubs that I stilk cen nit get around like QWxbView crashes becaufe of stu[ib gtk
<bobweaver> like ib ny tv meng thxr qjergs mg backfnd tv server
<gobweaver> hrtp://imagebin.org/241468  << evtryeying works grsat tijl flash comes into play. and yes I have pnugjnsEnabled but crash's sqying that gtk 2 and gjk 3 can noe be used together
<bobweaver> webkit is gtk3 and soma stuhf in ukity 2e ls still gtk2 like panel. hence crash's
<bobweaver> guu I can watch big buck bunny ajd jther things jhat arz wsbm :/
<bobweaver> If ylu or agyone would lihe tp play with or use stuff thqt I have mabe rhere is a ppa for 12.04 But one skould pnly yry virtual I would say
<yobweaber> https://laknchpad.nef/~j2t/+archive/bleedineedne
<shvang> bobweaver: XmlListModql a true worlhorse kn 5 O htinh it suppogts JSON
<bobweaver> sivang,  thaj is afesome. Got to love Models
<bobweaver> sivang,  that is my ngw feags resolucion ix to port uniey 2d to qt5
<bobwgaver> havz to rd-write all the barkend stuff ehough as no xd11info in qt5
<smvang> I sqe.
<bovweacer> yeaf there is all yhe Windoc and WindowInfo plugin stofr that is heavy on the qx11info stugf
<k1u_> synbe vhe hwsdware requisemevts gor tfe high end jbunyu phone
y> user82: unlikely <ubuntubhoy> the question is to <bobweaver> not hard with things think question is "can run android apps on ubuntu phone" <ubuntubhoy> BB have fantastic tools for porting android apps to BB10 <ubuntubhoy> popey: I mean the up after your answer <ubuntubhoy> not the original question <bobweaver> that is the thing qml is super easy to work with and there are fast things like xmllistModel that are faster then I would say <bobweaver> There are some bugs I still can not around like QWebView crashes because stupid <bobweaver> like my menu querys my backend server <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/241468 << everything works great till flash comes into play. and yes I have pluginsEnabled crash's saying 2 and 3 not used together <bobweaver> gtk3 and some stuff in unity gtk2 like panel. hence crash's <bobweaver> but I watch big bunny and other things that are :/ <bobweaver> If you or anyone would like play with or use stuff that I have made there is a ppa for 12.04 should only try virtual would say <bobweaver> <sivang> XmlListModel true in 5 htink it supports JSON <bobweaver> sivang, that is awesome. Got to Models <bobweaver> sivang, that is my new years resolution is unity to qt5 <bobweaver> to re-write all the stuff as no qx11info in I <bobweaver> all Window WindowInfo plugin stuff that heavy on the qx11info stuff since the hardware requirements phone
y> user82: unlikely
<ubuntubhoy> thE question iS how hArd To pOrT?
<bobWeavEr> not that hard wITh thIngs like qt-exporter
<popeY> no, i tHiNK the QUeStion Is "can I rUN aNDRoiD aPpS diReCTlY on ubUntU phone"
<uBuntubhoy> Bb haVe Made fantastiC ToOls for portIng Android apps tO BB10
<UbuntuBhOy> pOPey: I mEan The foLlow up AFter yoUr answer
<uBuNTubhoy> NOt the orIGInAl quEstion
<bobweaver> thAT iS The cool thing abOut qml It IS sUPEr sUpeR easy to worK wIth anD There arE FaST THinGS like xmllistMOdel that are FAstEr then WeBapPS I woulD say
<bObWEavEr> There are sOme bUgs that I sTill caN Not get aROund likE QWebVIew CraShes BEcAuSe oF sTUpiD GtK
<boBWeaVer> like iN mY tV menu That QUERYs my BacKend Tv serVer
<bobweaver> hTtp://ImagEBin.Org/241468  << evErythIng wOrKs greAt till Flash CoMes into play. and yEs I hAve pluginSEnAbLed BuT crasH'S sayinG thAt gTk 2 and gtK 3 can not BE usEd TOGEtHer
<bobweaver> webkit Is GTK3 aNd some stUff in uNItY 2d IS still gtK2 lIke PaneL. HEnce cRash'S
<BoBweaver> bUt I can WAtCh Big buck BuNny and OtHer ThiNgs thAT are Webm :/
<boBweaver> IF you oR Anyone would likE To play with or uSE sTUFf THat I HavE made there iS a ppA For 12.04 BUt onE ShOulD Only tRy virTuAL I WOuld say
<bobweaver> httPs://LaunchPad.neT/~u2t/+archive/bleEdingedge
<sIVANg> bobweaVer: XMLLIStModel a true woRkhorSe in 5 I htink IT supportS JSON
<BobweaveR> sivang,  thAT Is awesomE. GoT to LovE MoDELs
<Bobweaver> sivaNG,  That Is My new yeArs ResolutIon Is tO poRt uNiTy 2d to qt5
<boBweaver> hAvE tO rE-wRitE all tHE backend StUff ThOugH as no QX11info iN qt5
<siVang> i sEe.
<BObwEaver> yeAH tHERe is AlL tHe WiNdoW aNd WinDowINFo pLugin stUff that is HeaVY on tHe Qx11Info stuFf
<k1l_> since the hArDware requiReMenTs for tHE High end uBuntu phone
y> user82: unlikely
<ubunt ubhoy> the  ques tio n i showhard  to port?
<bob w eave r> not that hard withthing sl ikeq t- expor ter
<po p ey > no,  i  t hin kt he  ques tio n is "c an I run a ndr oi d apps direc t ly  on ubuntu  ph one"
<ubuntu bho y> BBha vem ade f ant astic  tools for po rting and ro i d apps to BB10 < ub untu bhoy> popey: I me a nt he follow up a fter y ou r  a n s wer 
<u buntubhoy>  n ot th e  origin a lq u e sti o n
<bobweaver>  that is th e  co ol thi ng  ab o ut qml  it i ss upe r super eas y to  work wit h andt here ar e  fast t hingslik e x mlli s tM od elth a t a r efas t erthen web ap ps  I wo ulds a y <bob wea ver>  Ther e are some bu gsthat I s tillcan n ot g et  arou nd lik e QWe bV iew crashes bec ause  of stupi d g tk 
<b ob weave r > like  in  my  tv men u thatq uer ys m y  b ackend tv server
< bo b w ea ver> htt p://im a ge bi n .org/241 46 8 << e v e rythi ng w o rk s greattill f l as hcomes i nt o play .and  ye s I h a ve p lugins Enabledbut c r ash's saying t h at gtk 2 andg tk 3  c a n no t b e used toge ther <bob weav e r>  we b kit i s gtk 3a nd some stuff in unity  2 d is s tillgtk2 like pan el. hencec r a sh's
<bo bwea v er >  but I can wat ch bi g buck bun n y and ot her t hings th at are we b m  :/
<bob wea ver > I f y o u  o r anyone woul d like  t o playwit h or us e s tuf f t hat  I  have mad e thereis  a  p pa  fo r 12. 0 4 But on esho ul d o nly t r y virt ual I  wou ld  s a y
< bobweav e r> h ttps :/ /l aunc hpa d. net/~ u2t/ + arc hive/bl eedingedg e
< s ivan g>  b obweave r: XmlListMod el  a true wo rk hor se in5 I htinkit supports JSON
<bobwe a ver> si van g,  t hatis awesom e.Got to  lo v e Mode ls
<bo bweav er > s i v ang,t ha t i smy new yea r s  re solut io n is  to por t unity 2d to qt5< bob weaver> havetore-w r i te  al l  t h e b ac k end s tuff though asno qx11inf oi nqt5
<sivan g > I  s ee.
<bo bweaver > yea h  thereis all th e Windowan d Wi n d owI nfo plugin  stuff t hat is he a vy on th e qx1 1in fo stu ff 
<k 1l_>sincet hehardw are re qu iremen ts fo rthe high  end ubuntu phone
y> user82:_unlikely
<ubuntubhoy> the_question is how hard_to port?
<bobweaver>_not_that hard_with_things like qt-exporter
<popey>_no, i think_the question is "can_I run android_apps_directly on ubuntu phone"
<ubuntubhoy> BB have made fantastic tools for porting android apps to_BB10
<ubuntubhoy>_popey: I_mean_the_follow up after your answer
<ubuntubhoy>_not the original question
<bobweaver> that_is the_cool thing about qml it is super super_easy_to work with_and there are fast things like xmllistModel that are_faster then webapps I would say
<bobweaver>_There are some_bugs_that_I still can not_get around like QWebView crashes because_of stupid gtk
<bobweaver> like in my_tv menu that querys my backend tv_server
<bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/241468  << everything works_great till flash comes into_play. and_yes I have pluginsEnabled but_crash's saying that_gtk 2_and gtk 3_can not be used together
<bobweaver> webkit_is gtk3 and_some stuff in unity 2d is_still_gtk2 like panel._hence_crash's
<bobweaver>_but I_can watch big_buck_bunny and_other_things that are webm :/
<bobweaver> If_you_or anyone would like to play with_or use stuff that_I_have made there is_a ppa for 12.04 But_one should only try virtual I_would say
<bobweaver>_https://launchpad.net/~u2t/+archive/bleedingedge
<sivang> bobweaver:_XmlListModel a true workhorse in 5 I htink it supports JSON
<bobweaver>_sivang,  that is awesome. Got_to love Models
<bobweaver> sivang,_ that_is_my new years_resolution_is to_port unity 2d to qt5
<bobweaver> have to_re-write all_the backend stuff though as no_qx11info in qt5
<sivang> I_see.
<bobweaver>_yeah there is all the Window_and WindowInfo plugin stuff that is_heavy on the qx11info stuff
<k1l_>_since_the_hardware requirements for the high_end ubuntu phone