 there must already be some platform abstractions going on.  The docs I have seen so far do not mention much other than UI.  Will there be a consistent interface for bluetooth/location/<other common phone feature>?
<mhall119> dmdrummond: bluetooth probably, since we have that on desktops/laptops already
<mhall119> I don't know if there's a common way of getting gps/location information though
<rsalveti> nrosvall_: I don't see why not supporting python with pyqt/pyside
<rsalveti> if it's working properly with qt5, then it should be good
<Silur> hi all
<Silur> can anyone help me with some developing q-s
<Silur> the site and the video only metions QML and HTML5
<Silur> will i be able to run a hellp world std C++?
<Silur> or will it contain a python shell?
<Silur> the site says
<Silur> "Ubuntu phone's going to inherit Desktop ubuntu's security, workflow, Design and management"
<Silur> what about development?
<Silur> ubuntu is not unix without development opportunities :D
<Ryan45> What is Ubuntu's relationship with Nvidia. Being involved with the tablet porting community it always seemed to fall back on NVidia quickly abandoning support for thier platforms as soon as they brought something new out.
<Ryan45> If I read the logs correct an image is coming out for Galaxy Nexus which is TI OMAP.
<Ryan45> I would image this is going to limit UP's availability to OMAP devices, which is not the end of the world. In fact you might be on to something if you can create an Ubuntu Phone Market where vendors can sell unlocked phones.
<Ryan45> Obviously, the rest of the world wouldn't care
<Ryan45> but in the US it would be a huge hit for the nerds.
#ubuntu-phone 2013-01-05
<Transhumanist> hi =)
<shanbuntu_> thanks :)
<shanbuntu_> less action than #ubuntu
<Transhumanist> yeah haha
<Transhumanist> it's probably just lots of people idling and waiting for more info
<Transhumanist> Canonical are
there must already be some platform abstractions going on.   The docs I have see therefore far do not mention much other than UI.   Will there be a coherent interface for bluetooth / location/<other common phone feature of speech >? 
 < mhall119 > dmdrummond: bluetooth probably, since we have that on desktops / laptop already 
 < mhall119 > I don't acknowledge if there's a common room of getting gps / location data though 
 < rsalveti > nrosvall _: I don't see why not supporting python with pyqt / pyside 
 < rsalveti > if it's working properly with qt5, then it should be good 
 < Silur > hi all 
 < Silur > can anyone help me with some developing q - second 
 < Silur > the site and the video only metions QML and HTML5 
 < Silur > will i be able to range a hellp world std C++? 
 < Silur > or will it contain a python shell? 
 < Silur > the site state 
 < Silur > " Ubuntu phone's going to inherit Desktop ubuntu's security, workflow, Design and management " 
 < Silur > what about growth? 
 < Silur > ubuntu is not unix without development opportunities :D 
 < Ryan45 > What is Ubuntu's relationship with Nvidia. Being involved with the tablet porting community it always seemed to fall back on NVidia quickly abandoning support for thier platforms as soon as they brought something new out. 
 < Ryan45 > If I take the logs correct an prototype is hail out for Galaxy Nexus which is TI OMAP. 
 < Ryan45 > I would image this is going to restrict UP's availability to OMAP devices, which is not the end of the world. In fact you might be on to something if you can make an Ubuntu Phone Market where vendors can sell unlocked phones. 
 < Ryan45 > Obviously, the rest of the world wouldn't manage 
 < Ryan45 > but in the US it would be a huge hit for the nerds. 
 # ubuntu - phone 2013 - 01 - 05 
 < Transhumanist > hi =) 
 < shanbuntu _ > thanks :) 
 < shanbuntu _ > less action than # ubuntu 
 < Transhumanist > yeah haha 
 < Transhumanist > it's credibly just set of citizenry idling and waiting for more info 
 < Transhumanist > Canonical are
 thfre must already be some platform abstrcxtions going on.  The docs I have seen so far do iot nentiin much other than UI.  Will thege be a cinsiwrent interhzce for bluetklth/lmration/<other comkon phone xeature>?
<mhall119> dkdfulmond: bluetooth probably, since we hwve thay ln desktops/lapjops sjreasj
<mmall119> I don't know if there's a comjon way of getting gls/location information thokgh
<rdalveti> nrosvall_: I don't see wyy njr supporting python wiuh pyqt/pysidg
<rsalveti> if it's working properlh witk qt5, then ij ahlold be good
<Smlur> hp all
<Silur> cak anyona help ke with some dcvelo'ing q-s
<Silur> the site and the video only mejions QML dnb HTML5
<Silur> will i be avle tm rut a fwllo wkrkd std C++?
<Dilnr> or will jt contain q python shell?
<Silur> trv site says
<Simur> "Ubtneu phone's going to inherit Desktop ubunuu's sscurity, workflow, Design and management"
<Silur> ahat aboue development?
<Silur> ubuntu is not unix without devalopmxng okpirtunkrifs :D
<Ryan45> What is Ubuntu's relationship with Nvysis. Neing involved wlth the tablet poryijg sommunity it xlways sesmed to fall back ln NVidya quuckly abagdonong support for thier platfirms as soon qs they brought solething new out.
<Tyan45> Ig I read the logs correet an jmage is coling out rur Galaxy Nexus dhibh iv TI OMAK.
<Fyan45> I would imagq this is goiug to lioit OP's avaylability ho OMAP devices, which is not jhe eng of the wlrld. In fact you might be on to something if iou cat create an Ununtu Phone Marhet where vendprs can sell unlocked ihones.
<Ryai45> Obviously, ehe rest of tvg world wouldi't care
<Rywn45> byt ib the UR it would be a huge hit for the nwrds.
#ubuntu-phone 2013-01-05
<Trenshomznist> hi =)
<shanbuuuu_> uhqnks :)
<shanbuntu_> lers wcnioi thag #ubuntu
<Transvumavisg> yeah haha
<Transhmmavist> it's probably just lmts kf people idling amd waiting for morq info
<Transhukanist> Canonical age
there must already be some platform abstractions The I have so far do UI. there be a interface for bluetooth/location/<other phone feature>? <mhall119> dmdrummond: bluetooth probably, we have that on desktops/laptops already <mhall119> I don't know if there's a way of getting gps/location information though <rsalveti> nrosvall_: I don't see why not python pyqt/pyside if working properly with qt5, then it should be good <Silur> hi all <Silur> can anyone help with some developing q-s <Silur> the site and video only metions QML HTML5 <Silur> will i be to a hellp std <Silur> will it contain python shell? <Silur> the site says <Silur> "Ubuntu phone's going to inherit Desktop ubuntu's security, workflow, Design management" <Silur> development? <Silur> is unix development opportunities :D is Ubuntu's relationship with Nvidia. Being tablet porting community it always seemed to fall on NVidia abandoning support for thier platforms as as they brought something new out. <Ryan45> If read the logs correct an image is coming out for Galaxy Nexus which is TI I would image this going to limit availability OMAP which not the of the world. In fact you might be on to something you can create an Ubuntu Phone Market where vendors can phones. Obviously, the rest the world wouldn't care but the US it would huge for 2013-01-05 hi <shanbuntu_> thanks :) <shanbuntu_> action than #ubuntu <Transhumanist> yeah <Transhumanist> it's probably just waiting for more info <Transhumanist> Canonical are
 there must already be some plaTform abstrActioNs gOinG oN.  The Docs i have seen so far DO not Mention much other than UI.  will tHeRE be a COnSisteNt interFAcE FOr bLuEtOotH/lOCaTion/<oTheR common Phone featuRe>?
<mHaLl119> dmdrummond: BLuEtooth probAblY, since we have ThaT on desKtOps/LAptopS alReady
<Mhall119> I DOn't knoW if there's A cOMmon waY Of gettiNG GpS/locAtion information tHOuGH
<rsalveti> nrosvAll_: I doN't SEe WHY noT suPporting pyThOn witH Pyqt/pysIDe
<RSALveTI> if it's working Properly witH Qt5, tHen it sHoUld BE good
<SIlur> hI aLL
<SiLur> can anyonE helP me with soMe deveLOping q-s
<sIlur> the Site anD thE viDeo oNLy MeTioNs qmL aND HtML5
<sIluR> will i be AbLe To run A helLP WORld sTd C++?
<siluR> or wiLl it contain a pYthOn shELl?
<SIlur> tHe sitE sayS
<SIlur> "UBuntu pHone's GoIng to inherit DesKtop Ubuntu's seCurItY, woRkFlow, DESign anD maNagEment"
<SiLur> what ABouT dEVELoPment?
<Silur> ubuntu is NoT UNiX without DeveloPMeNt OPportuniTiEs :D
<ryan45> wHAt is UBuntU'S rElationsHip witH nvIdIa. Being InVolved WiTh tHe tAblet POrtiNg commUnity it aLways SEemed to fall bacK On NVidia quickLY aBANdONing SupPort for thieR plaTFormS as sOOn As tHEy broUght sOmEThINg new out.
<Ryan45> If I read ThE logs cOrrecT an image is comIng out for GALAXy Nexus wHich IS Ti oMAP.
<Ryan45> I would Image This is goinG To limit Up's avaIlabilitY to OMAP deVICes, which Is nOt tHe eNd oF THe World. In fact yoU MIght Be On to somEthIng if yoU caN crEatE an ubUntu Phone market whErE vEnDoRs cAn selL Unlocked PhOneS.
<RYan45> obvioUSly, the Rest oF the WoRlD WouLdn't carE
<ryAN45> But iN tHe uS it WouLd Be a huGe hiT For The nerdS.
#ubuntu-phOne 2013-01-05
<tRansHuMaNist> hi =)
<sHanbuntu_> thankS :)
<sHanbuntu_> leSs ActIon thaN #UBuntu
<TraNshumanist> yeah haha
<TransHUmanist> It's ProbaBly jUst lots of PeoPle idlIng ANd waitIng for More iNfO
<TrANShumaNISt> canOnIcal are
 there must already be som e platform  abst rac tio ns  goi ng o n.  The docs I have  seen so far do not me ntion  m u ch o t he r tha n UI. W il l the re  b e a  c o ns isten t i nterfac e for blue too th /location/<o t he r common p hon e feature>?<mh all119 >dmd r ummon d:bluet ooth p r obably , since w eh ave th a t on de s k to ps/l aptops already
<m h al l 119> I don't k now if  t h er e ' s a  co mmon way o fgetti n g gps/l o ca t i o n i n formation tho ugh
<rsalve t i>nrosva ll _:I  don't  seewh y  no t supportin g py thon with  pyqt/ p yside
< r salveti > if i t's  wo rkin g  p ro per ly wit h  q t5, the n it sho ul dbe go od
< S i l u r> h i a ll
< Silur > can anyonehel p me wit h som e dev elop in g q-s 
<Silu r> th esite and the vi deoonly meti ons  Q MLan d HTM L 5
<Sil ur>  wi ll i be  able t o  ru na h el lp world std C++?<S i l ur > or wil l it c o nt ai n  a pytho nshe ll?< S ilur>  the si te says<Silur >  " Ub untu ph on e's go in g t o i nheri t  Des ktop u buntu'ssecur i ty, workflow,D esign and man a ge m e nt " 
<Si lur > what abou t de v elop ment ? 
< Sil u r> ub untuis no t  unix without devel op ment o pport unities :D
<R yan45> Wha t i s Ubuntu 's r e la t ionship with N vidia . Being in v olved wi th th e tablet  portingc o mmunityitalw ays  se e m ed  to fall back o n NV id ia quic kly  abando nin g s upp ort  f or thierplatform sas  s oo n a s the y  brought  s ome th ing  newo ut.
<R yan45 > If  I  r e adthe log s  c o r rect  a nimag e i scomin g ou t  fo r Galax y Nexus w hic h  isTI  O MAP.
<R yan45> I woul dimage this  i s g oing t o limit UP 's availability to OMAP devices , w hichis n ot the en d o f thewor l d. Infact y ou mi gh t b e on to s om eth in g if you c a n  cr eatean  Ubu ntu Pho ne Market where ve n dor s can sell un loc kedp h on es. <R y an4 5> Obv i o usly, the restof the wor ld wo uldn't car e 
<R ya n45> bu t in th e USi t would  be a hug e hit for  t he n e r ds. 
#ubuntu-p hone 201 3-01-05
< T ransh u ma nist>  hi  =)
<s ha nbu ntu_>  thank s  :) 
<sha nbuntu _>  lessactio nthan #ub untu
<Transhumanist> ye ah hah a
<Tr ans humanist>  it ' s p robably j ustlots of pe opl e i dling  an d  wait ingf or  mo r e inf o
<T r anshumani s t>  Ca n o ni cal are
 there_must already_be some platform abstractions_going on.__The docs_I_have seen so_far do not_mention much other than_UI.  Will_there_be a consistent interface for bluetooth/location/<other common phone feature>?
<mhall119> dmdrummond: bluetooth probably, since we_have_that on_desktops/laptops_already
<mhall119>_I don't know if there's_a common way of getting_gps/location information_though
<rsalveti> nrosvall_: I don't see why not supporting_python_with pyqt/pyside
<rsalveti> if_it's working properly with qt5, then it should be_good
<Silur> hi all
<Silur> can anyone help_me with some_developing_q-s
<Silur>_the site and the_video only metions QML and HTML5
<Silur>_will i be able to run_a hellp world std C++?
<Silur> or will_it contain a python shell?
<Silur> the_site says
<Silur> "Ubuntu phone's going_to inherit_Desktop ubuntu's security, workflow, Design_and management"
<Silur> what_about development?
<Silur>_ubuntu is not_unix without development opportunities :D
<Ryan45> What_is Ubuntu's relationship_with Nvidia. Being involved with the_tablet_porting community it_always_seemed_to fall_back on NVidia_quickly_abandoning support_for_thier platforms as soon as they_brought_something new out.
<Ryan45> If I read the_logs correct an image_is_coming out for Galaxy_Nexus which is TI OMAP.
<Ryan45>_I would image this is going_to limit_UP's availability_to OMAP devices, which is not the end of the world._In fact you might be on_to something if you_can create_an_Ubuntu Phone Market_where_vendors can_sell unlocked phones.
<Ryan45> Obviously, the rest of_the world_wouldn't care
<Ryan45> but in the US_it would be a_huge_hit for the nerds.
#ubuntu-phone 2013-01-05
<Transhumanist> hi_=)
<shanbuntu_> thanks :)
<shanbuntu_> less action than_#ubuntu
<Transhumanist> yeah haha
<Transhumanist> it's probably_just_lots_of people idling and waiting_for more info
<Transhumanist> Canonical are