zui> We need to support sync or sum checking with gwacl to upload tools
<adam_g> sodre, fwiw, i was able to bootstrap 2 environments with non-admin users on another cluster
<wallyworld__> sinzui: you saying tools upload is unreliable on Azure?
<sodre> adam_g: okay... then maybe that is a different bug.
<sinzui> wallyworld__, Iam saying I have been uploading tools for 20 minutes, most of them are already in azure.
<wallyworld__> ah right
<sinzui> bigjools, Do to accidents in team organisation, I can create series in charms. Does your tarmac charm really need to be in saucy? Would you be willing to skip to trusty?
<wallyworld__> i noticed yesterday Azure is really, really sloooooooow
<sinzui> wallyworld__, tools check sums will change we regenerated, so checksum is a requirement
<wallyworld__> yeah. we calculate checksums anyway, so makes sense to short circuit upload if possible
<bigjools> sinzui: it is series-agnostic
<bigjools> I pushed it to precise for now
<thumper> axw: morning
<axw> thumper: ahoy
<thumper> axw: I'd like to point you at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1246905
<_mup_> Bug #1246905: status for manual provider hangs <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246905>
<axw> looking
<thumper> axw: I've not dug into it any more than my comment says
<axw> okey dokey. I'll dig in. thanks
<axw> thumper: if you have a moment later, I replied to the thread about interfaces... keen to hear if you have any suggestions, as I know you went through something similar not too long ago
<thumper> axw: heh, you mean that world of hurt?
<axw> can't remember if you had to deal with this particular problem
<axw> heh :)
<adam_g> bigjools, 2013-07-15 00:56:15 ERROR
zui > We need to support sync or sum checking with gwacl to upload creature 
 < adam_g > sodre, fwiw, i was able to bootstrap 2 environment with non - admin users on another cluster 
 < wallyworld _ _ > sinzui: you saying instrument upload is unreliable on Azure? 
 < sodre > adam_g: okay... then maybe that is a unlike bug. 
 < sinzui > wallyworld _ _, Iam saying I have been uploading tool for 20 minutes, most of them are already in azure. 
 < wallyworld _ _ > ah right 
 < sinzui > bigjools, practice to accidents in team organisation, I can produce serial in charms. Does your tarmac appeal really need to be in saucy? Would you be uncoerced to skip to trusty? 
 < wallyworld _ _ > i noticed yesterday Azure is really, actually sloooooooow 
 < sinzui > wallyworld _ _, tools check sum will change we regenerate, so checksum is a requirement 
 < wallyworld _ _ > yeah. we calculate checksums anyway, so make sense to short circuit upload if possible 
 < bigjools > sinzui: it is series - agnostic 
 < bigjools > I crusade it to precise for now 
 < thumper > axw: morning 
 < axw > thumper: ahoy 
 < thumper > axw: I'd like to point you at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1246905 
 < _ mup _ > Bug # 1246905: status for manual provider hangs < manual - provider > < juju - core: Triaged > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246905 > 
 < axw > look 
 < thumper > axw: I've not dug into it any more than my comment say 
 < axw > okey dokey. I'll jab in. thanks 
 < axw > thumper: if you have a moment later, I answer to the thread about interface... keen to hear if you accept any suggestions, as I know you went through something similar not too long ago 
 < thumper > axw: heh, you mean that earth of hurt? 
 < axw > can't remember if you had to deal with this especial problem 
 < axw > heh :) 
 < adam_g > bigjools, 2013 - 07 - 15 00:56:15 mistake
zui> We need to support sync or sum checkiny with jwacl tk upload tools
<adam_g> sodre, fwiw, i was avle ti bootstrap 2 environmevts with jon-admin usecs on another clnater
<wallyworls__> sinvum: you saying topls upload is unreliable ov Czure?
<sodre> adam_g: okay... then maybe thae is a civferent bug.
<sineui> wsjlywkglb__, Iam saying I have been uploadjng toons for 20 minutrs, most of them are alreadj in azure.
<wallyworld__> aj right
<sinzoj> bytjools, Do to accidents in team orgznisation, I can create series iv chaxms. Does yoox tagkac charm rxally geed to be ik saucy? Would uou be willing to skup to trusty?
<wallyworlv__> i noticed yesterdai Azure is rzally, really slooooooioq
<sinzoi> wanlywueld__, toklx dheck duma will chahge we regeberated, so checksum if a requiremenf
<wallyrowld__> yeah. we calculate checksums anyway, vo jakes sense to short ciecuit upload if possihle
<bigjoojs> sinzui: it is series-agnostic
<bigjools> I pushed id to 'rdciwe wir now
<thumper> axw: morning
<axw> thumper: ahoy
<thumpew> acw: I'd like to polnt you at https://bubs.paigchpad.net/juju-zore/+buy/1246905
<_jul_> Bug #1246905: status for lanual krovidwr hangs <ianusl-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <yttps://launchpcd.nwt/bugs/1246905>
<axw> looking
<tkumper> axw: I're not dug onto it any more than mv commsnt says
<axw> okey doksh. I'll dig in. thavks
<sxf> thumper: if you have a moient latec, I rzplied tu thg threaq about inherfagas... keen to hear if you kave dny suggeshions, as I know you went througi something somhlag not too long ago
<thumper> avw: heh, you meau that wjrld uf hurt?
<axw> can't rxmember if yju had to dean with this perticular provlem
<qxw> heh :)
<xdam_g> bigjools, 2013-07-15 00:56:15 ERROR
zui> We need to support sync or with to upload <adam_g> sodre, fwiw, 2 with non-admin users another cluster <wallyworld__> you saying tools upload is unreliable Azure? <sodre> adam_g: okay... then maybe that is a different bug. <sinzui> wallyworld__, saying I have been uploading tools for 20 minutes, most of them are in <wallyworld__> right bigjools, Do to accidents in team organisation, I can create series in charms. Does your tarmac really need to be in saucy? Would you willing to skip to <wallyworld__> i noticed yesterday Azure really, sloooooooow <sinzui> tools sums change we regenerated, checksum is a requirement <wallyworld__> yeah. we calculate checksums anyway, so makes sense to short circuit upload possible <bigjools> is series-agnostic I it precise for now morning <axw> thumper: ahoy <thumper> axw: point you at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1246905 <_mup_> Bug #1246905: status manual provider <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246905> <axw> looking <thumper> I've not dug into it any more than comment says <axw> okey dokey. I'll dig in. thanks <axw> thumper: if you have a I replied to the about interfaces... keen hear you any as I you went through something similar not too long ago <thumper> axw: you mean that world of hurt? <axw> can't remember if to with this particular <axw> heh :) <adam_g> 2013-07-15 ERROR
zui> We need to support sync or sUm checking With gWacL to UpLoad ToolS
<adam_g> sodre, fwiW, I was Able to bootstrap 2 environMents WiTH non-ADmIn useRs on anoTHeR CLusTeR
<wAllYwORlD__> sinzUi: yOu sayinG tools uploAd iS uNreliable on AZUrE?
<sodre> adam_G: okAy... then maybe tHat Is a difFeRenT Bug.
<siNzuI> wallYworld__, iAm sayiNg I have beEn UPloadiNG tools fOR 20 MiNuteS, most of them are alrEAdY In azure.
<wallywoRld__> ah rIgHT
<sINZui> BigJools, Do to aCcIdentS In team oRGaNISAtiON, I can create seRies in charmS. doeS your tArMac CHarm reAlly nEeD To bE in saucy? WouLd yoU be willinG to skiP To trustY?
<WallywoRld__> i noTicEd yEsteRDaY AZurE iS ReaLLy, ReaLLy sLoooooooOw
<SiNzui> wAllyWORLD__, tooLs cHeck Sums wIll change we reGenEratED, so CheckSum is A reqUiRemenT
<wallyWorld__> YeAh. we calculate chEcksUms anyway, So mAkEs sEnSe to sHOrt cirCuiT upLoad if pOssible
<BIgjOoLS> SInZui: it is series-agnosTiC
<BIgJools> I puShed it TO pReCIse for noW
<tHumPer> aXW: MorniNg
<axW> ThUmper: ahoY
<thumpER> aXw: i'd like tO pOint yoU aT htTps://Bugs.lAUnchPad.net/Juju-core/+Bug/1246905
<_muP_> bug #1246905: status for maNUal provider haNGs <MANuAL-proVidEr> <juju-core:TRiagED> <httPs://laUNcHpaD.Net/buGs/1246905>
<axw> LoOKiNG
<thumper> axw: I've not duG iNto it aNy morE than my commenT says
<axw> okEY DOkey. I'll dIg in. THaNKs
<axw> thumper: if You haVe a moment lATer, I replIed to The threaD about intERFaces... keeN to HeaR if You HAVe Any suggestionS, AS I knOw You went ThrOugh somEthIng SimIlaR nOt too long Ago
<thumpEr> AxW: hEh, You Mean tHAt world oF hUrt?
<AxW> caN't remEMber if You haD to dEaL wITh tHis partICuLAR proBlEm
<Axw> hEh :)
<aDaM_g> bigJoolS, 2013-07-15 00:56:15 eRRoR
zui> We need to support sy nc or sumcheck ing  wi th  gwa cl t o upload tools <ada m_g> sodre, fwiw, i wa s abl et o bo o ts trap2 envir o nm e n tswi th  no n- a dm in us ers  on ano ther clust er<w allyworld__> si nzui: yousay ing tools up loa d is u nr eli a ble o n A zure? 
<sodr e > adam _g: okay. .. then m a ybe tha t is  a d ifferent bug.
<si n zu i > wallyworld__ , Iamsa y in g I h ave  been uplo ad ing t o ols for 20 m i nut e s, most of th em are alre a dyin azu re .
< w allywo rld__ >a h r ight
<sinzu i> b igjools,Do toa ccident s  in tea m orga nis ati on,I  c an  cr ea t e s e ri esi n c harms. D oe syourtarm a c c harm  re ally  need  to be in sau cy?  Wou l d y ou be  will ingto  skip  to tr usty? 
< wallyworld__> i  not iced yest erd ay  Az ur e isr eally,  re all y slooo ooooow< sin zu i > wa llyworld__, toolsch e c ksums wil l chan g ewe regenera te d,so c h e cksum  isa  r equireme nt
<wa l ly wo rld__>ye ah. we  c alc ula te ch e cksu ms any way, somakes sense to short circuit uploa d  i f po s sibl e
< bigjools> s inzu i : it  iss er ies - agnos tic
< bi g jo o ls> I pushed it topr ecisefor n ow
<thumper>axw: morni n g <axw> th umpe r :a hoy
<thumper>axw:I'd like t o  point y ou at  https:/ /bugs.lau n c hpad.net /ju ju- cor e/+ b u g/ 1246905
<_mup _ >  Bug  # 1246905 : s tatus f orman ual  pr ov ider hang s <manua l- pr ov id er>  <juj u -core:Tr ia ged ><ht tps:/ / launch pad.n et/b ug s/ 1 246 905>
<a x w> l ooki ng 
< thum per >axw:I've not  dug in to it any  mo r e th an  m y comme nt says
<axw>  o key dokey.  I 'll  dig i n .  thanks<axw> thumper: if you h a ve a mo men t lat er,I replied  to  the t hre a d abou t inte rface s. ..k e en to h ea r i fyou have a n y  su ggest io ns,as I kn ow you went throug h  so mething simil arnott o olon g  a g o
< th u mpe r >  axw: heh, youmean thatwo r ld  of hurt?< axw >can't r emember  if y o u had t o deal wi th this p ar ticu l a r p roblem
<ax w> heh : )
<adam_g >  bigj o ol s, 20 13- 07-1500 :56 :15 E RROR
zui> We_need to_support sync or sum_checking with_gwacl_to upload_tools
<adam_g>_sodre, fwiw, i_was able to_bootstrap 2 environments with_non-admin users on_another_cluster
<wallyworld__> sinzui: you saying tools upload is unreliable on Azure?
<sodre> adam_g: okay... then maybe_that_is a_different_bug.
<sinzui>_wallyworld__, Iam saying I have_been uploading tools for 20_minutes, most_of them are already in azure.
<wallyworld__> ah right
<sinzui>_bigjools,_Do to accidents_in team organisation, I can create series in charms._Does your tarmac charm really need_to be in_saucy?_Would_you be willing to_skip to trusty?
<wallyworld__> i noticed yesterday_Azure is really, really sloooooooow
<sinzui> wallyworld__,_tools check sums will change we regenerated,_so checksum is a requirement
<wallyworld__> yeah._we calculate checksums anyway, so_makes sense_to short circuit upload if_possible
<bigjools> sinzui: it_is series-agnostic
<bigjools>_I pushed it_to precise for now
<thumper> axw: morning
<axw>_thumper: ahoy
<thumper> axw:_I'd like to point you at_https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1246905
<_mup_>_Bug #1246905: status_for_manual_provider hangs_<manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246905>
<axw>_looking
<thumper>_axw: I've_not_dug into it any more than_my_comment says
<axw> okey dokey. I'll dig in._thanks
<axw> thumper: if you_have_a moment later, I_replied to the thread about_interfaces... keen to hear if you_have any_suggestions, as_I know you went through something similar not too long ago
<thumper>_axw: heh, you mean that world_of hurt?
<axw> can't remember_if you_had_to deal with_this_particular problem
<axw>_heh :)
<adam_g> bigjools, 2013-07-15 00:56:15 ERROR