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<djszapi> JanC: is upstart fully leisure time project for Scott?
<JanC> I think he could work on it during working hours too, but not all the time as he had other work to do too
<djszapi> I meant whether some company pays him for developing upstart.
<djszapi> seems a quite essential tool in order to get paid by a company.
<JanC> he was paid by Canonical, probably will get paid by Google in the future
<JanC> as Google uses upstart in Chrome OS
<JanC> and they are his new employer
<JanC> http://netsplit.com/2011/01/11/leaving-canonical/ 
<jhunt> djszapi: does this relate to your "--verbose" issue?
<djszapi> y
<djszapi> jhunt: any idea where to start?
<jhunt> djszapi: sorry - meetings :) so from the list mail you are unable to see pids for pre-start scripts for example? I don't fully understand - do you never see pids logged in /var/log/daemon.log?
<djszapi> what do you mean jhunt?
<jhunt> keybuk answered your first query. Your second related to "--verbose" where you are not seeing pids being logged for pre-start scripts for example?
<jhunt> So, after either specifying "--verbose" or running, "initctl log-priority debug" when you start a job, all script section pids will get logged to (by default) /var/log/daemon.log
<jhunt> are you saying you get no output in daemon.log?
<djszapi> jhunt ping
<jhunt> hello
<djszapi> sorry I was travelling.
<djszapi> from Nokia to home.
<djszapi> 'Your second related to "--verbose" where you are not seeing pids being logged for pre-start scripts for example?' -> Yup.
<djszapi> never tried /var/log/daemon.log, keybuk said it should be in syslog, he has never mentioned this daemon.log.
<djszapi> and
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 < djszapi > JanC: is upstart fully leisure meter undertaking for Scott? 
 < JanC > I think he could work on it during work hour too, but not all the time as he have other work to do too 
 < djszapi > I meant whether some company pay up him for developing upstart. 
 < djszapi > seems a quite essential tool in order to get pay by a company. 
 < JanC > he was paid by Canonical, probably will get yield by Google in the future 
 < JanC > as Google uses upstart in Chrome OS 
 < JanC > and they are his new employer 
 < JanC > http://netsplit.com/2011/01/11/leaving-canonical/ 
 < jhunt > djszapi: does this relate to your " --verbose " topic? 
 < djszapi > y 
 < djszapi > jhunt: any idea where to start? 
 < jhunt > djszapi: sorry - meetings :) so from the tilt mail you are unable to see pids for pre - start scripts for example? I don't amply understand - do you never see pids logged in /var / log / daemon.log? 
 < djszapi > what do you mean jhunt? 
 < jhunt > keybuk answered your first query. Your second related to " --verbose " where you are not watch pids being logged for pre - start scripts for case? 
 < jhunt > So, after either specifying " --verbose " or running, " initctl logarithm - priority debug " when you begin a job, all script incision pids will get logged to (by default) /var / log / daemon.log 
 < jhunt > are you saying you get no output in daemon.log? 
 < djszapi > jhunt ping 
 < jhunt > hello 
 < djszapi > deplorable I was travelling. 
 < djszapi > from Nokia to home. 
 < djszapi >' Your second related to " --verbose " where you are not seeing pelvic inflammatory disease being logged for pre - start script for example?' - > Yup. 
 < djszapi > never tried /var / log / daemon.log, keybuk said it should be in syslog, he has never mentioned this daemon.log. 
 < djszapi > and
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<djseapi> JanC: is upstcet fulny leiaure timd project for Scott?
<JanC> I thmnk ye coyld work on it during dorking hlurs too, but bot all thx time as he hzf otkec work to do top
<djszapi> I meant whether sumz company pays him for developing upftart.
<djxzwpi> seems a quyte tssqntizl tool in order to get paid by a dompany.
<OanC> he was paic by Canonical, probably wipl gft paid by Google ln the fututs
<JagX> as Google jses upstagc in Chrome OS
<JanC> and they are his new emoloyex
<JanC> http://ngcwpllj.com/2011/01/11/leaving-cenonicwl/ 
<jhunt> djsdspi: doas this relate to youv "--veruose" issue?
<djszapi> y
<djszapm> jhunt: any idea whete to stard?
<jkunt> djszapi: sorry - mwerings :) so froo thd ljsv mzil yok ace unable tk see pids dor pre-start scriptx sir example? I son't ftljy understand - do you never see pids locges in /var/log/daemon.log?
<djszapi> what do you mean jhunt?
<jhugt> keybuk answered your first query. Your second ralatev go "--rcvbosd" wjere you are not seeing pids being logged for lrt-stsrt scripts fov example?
<jhunt> So, sfhet either speciwying "--rsrgose" or running, "inltctl ljg-priirity debtg" wnen you start a job, all scrupt section iids will get logged tl (by defaulc) /var/lpg/daekon.log
<jhunt> are you saynng yoh get no ouhput in dzdmon.log?
<djszapi> jfunn pitg
<jhunt> hello
<djszapi> sorry I was trevellnng.
<djszaoi> ftom Nokya to home.
<fjszaih> 'Your second relahed tl "--eerbose" whfre you are not seeing pids beiij logged for kre-vtagt scriptf for example?' -> Yup.
<qjszapi> never jried /var/jog/dadmon.log, kejbuk said it should fe in syslog, vg has never mxntioned ehis daenon.log.
<dgrzapi> and
run from those sections. <djszapi> JanC: is leisure project for <JanC> I think during hours too, but all the time he had other work to do <djszapi> I meant whether some company pays him for developing upstart. <djszapi> seems quite essential tool in order to get paid by a company. <JanC> he paid Canonical, will paid by Google in the future <JanC> as Google uses upstart in Chrome OS <JanC> and are his new employer <JanC> http://netsplit.com/2011/01/11/leaving-canonical/ <jhunt> djszapi: this relate to your issue? <djszapi> y <djszapi> jhunt: idea to start? djszapi: - :) so from list mail you are unable to see pids for pre-start scripts for example? I don't fully understand do you pids logged /var/log/daemon.log? what you mean jhunt? answered your first query. Your second where you are not seeing pids being logged pre-start scripts example? <jhunt> So, after either specifying or running, "initctl log-priority debug" when you start job, all script section pids will get logged to (by default) /var/log/daemon.log <jhunt> are you get no output in <djszapi> jhunt ping hello sorry was <djszapi> from to home. <djszapi> 'Your second related to "--verbose" where you are seeing pids being logged for pre-start scripts for example?' -> never /var/log/daemon.log, keybuk said should be in syslog, has mentioned this daemon.log. <djszapi>
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<djszaPi> JanC: is upStart FulLy lEiSure Time Project for ScotT?
<janC> i think he could work on it dUring WoRKing HOuRs too, But not aLL tHE TimE aS hE haD oTHeR work To dO too
<djsZapi> I meant WheThEr some companY PaYs him for deVelOping upstart.
<DjsZapi> seEmS a qUIte esSenTial tOol in oRDer to gEt paid by a CoMPany.
<JaNc> he was pAID bY CanOnical, probably wilL GeT Paid by Google in The futUrE
<jaNc> As GOogLe uses upstArT in ChROme OS
<JaNc> aND THey ARe his new emploYer
<JanC> http://NEtsPlit.coM/2011/01/11/lEavINg-canoNical/ 
<JhUNt> dJszapi: does tHis rElate to yoUr "--verbOSe" issue?
<DJszapi> y
<DjszapI> jhUnt: Any iDEa WhEre To STarT?
<JhUnt> DJszApi: sorry - MeEtIngs :) sO froM THE List MaiL you Are unAble to see pids For Pre-sTArt ScripTs for ExamPlE? I don'T fully UnderStAnd - do you never seE pidS logged in /Var/LoG/daEmOn.log?
<DJszapi> WhaT do You mean Jhunt?
<jhUNt> kEyBUK AnSwered your first queRy. yOUr Second reLated tO "--VeRbOSe" where yOu Are Not sEEIng piDs beINg Logged foR pre-stARt ScRipts foR eXample?
<JhUnt> so, aFter eITher SpecifYing "--verbOse" or RUnning, "initctl lOG-priority debuG" WhEN YoU StarT a jOb, all script SectIOn piDs wiLL gEt lOGged tO (by deFaULt) /VAr/log/daemon.log
<jhunt> ArE you saYing yOu get no output In daemon.loG?
<DJSzapi> jhuNt piNG
<jHUnt> hello
<djszapI> sorrY I was traveLLing.
<djszApi> frOm Nokia tO home.
<djszAPI> 'Your secOnd RelAteD to "--VERbOse" where you arE NOt seEiNg pids bEinG logged For Pre-StaRt sCrIpts for exAmple?' -> Yup.
<DjSzApI> nEveR trieD /Var/log/daEmOn.lOg, KeyBuk saID it shoUld be In sySlOg, HE haS never mENtIONed tHiS dAemoN.loG.
<dJszapI> and
 run from those sections.<djszapi>JanC:  is  up st artfull y leisure time proj ect for Scott?
<JanC>I thi nk he c o ul d wor k on it du r i ngwo rk ing  h o ur s too , b ut notall the ti meas  he had othe r  w ork to dotoo 
<djszapi> I  me ant wh et her somecom panypays h i m fordevelopin gu pstart . 
<djsza p i >seem s a quite essenti a lt ool in order t o getpa i db y  acom pany.
<Jan C>  he w a s paidb yC a n oni c al, probablywill get pa i d b y Goog le  in the fu ture<J a nC>  as Googleuses  upstartin Chr o me OS
< J anC> an d they  ar e h is n e wem plo ye r 
<J a nC > h t tp: //netspl it .c om/20 11/0 1 / 1 1 /lea vin g-ca nonic al/ 
<jhunt>djs zapi :  do es th is re late  t o you r "--v erbos e"  issue?
<djszap i> y 
<djszapi > j hu nt:  a ny id e a wher e t o s tart?
< jhunt>d jsz ap i : so rry - meetings :)so f ro m the li st mai l  y ou are unab le  to  see p ids f or p r e- start sc riptsf or  e xample?  I  don't  f ull y u nders t and- do y ou never  seep ids logged in/ var/log/daemo n .l o g ?< djsz api > what do y ou m e an j hunt ? 
< jhu n t> ke ybukan s we r ed your first query .Your s econd  related to " --verbose" w h ere youaren ot seeing pids be ing l ogged forp re-start  scri pts forexample?< j hunt> So , a fte r e ith e r  s pecifying "-- v e rbos e"  or run nin g, "ini tct l l og- pri or ity debug " when y ou  s ta rt  ajob,a ll scrip tsec ti onpidsw ill ge t log gedto  ( b y d efault) /v a r /log /d ae mon. log 
< jhunt > ar e  yo u sayin g you get  no outp ut  i n daemo n.log?
<djsza pi > jhunt pi ng 
<j hunt>h e llo
<djs zapi> sorry I was trave l ling.
< djs zapi>  fro m Nokia t o h ome.
< djs z api> ' Your s econd  r ela t e d to" - -v erb os e" where y o u  ar e not  s eein g pidsbeing logged for p r e-s tart scriptsfor  exa m p le ?'- >Y up. 
< d jsz a p i> never tried/var/log/d ae m on .log, keyb u k s ai d it sh ould be  in s y slog, h e has nev er mentio ne d th i s  da emon.log.<djszapi > and
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<djszapi> JanC: is upstart_fully leisure_time_project for_Scott?
<JanC>_I think he_could work on_it during working hours_too, but not_all_the time as he had other work to do too
<djszapi> I meant whether some_company_pays him_for_developing_upstart.
<djszapi> seems a quite essential_tool in order to get_paid by_a company.
<JanC> he was paid by Canonical, probably_will_get paid by_Google in the future
<JanC> as Google uses upstart in_Chrome OS
<JanC> and they are his_new employer
<JanC> http://netsplit.com/2011/01/11/leaving-canonical/_
<jhunt>_djszapi:_does this relate to_your "--verbose" issue?
<djszapi> y
<djszapi> jhunt: any_idea where to start?
<jhunt> djszapi: sorry_- meetings :) so from the list_mail you are unable to see_pids for pre-start scripts for_example? I_don't fully understand - do_you never see_pids logged_in /var/log/daemon.log?
<djszapi> what_do you mean jhunt?
<jhunt> keybuk answered_your first query._Your second related to "--verbose" where_you_are not seeing_pids_being_logged for_pre-start scripts for_example?
<jhunt>_So, after_either_specifying "--verbose" or running, "initctl log-priority_debug"_when you start a job, all script_section pids will get_logged_to (by default) /var/log/daemon.log
<jhunt>_are you saying you get_no output in daemon.log?
<djszapi> jhunt ping
<jhunt>_hello
<djszapi> sorry_I was_travelling.
<djszapi> from Nokia to home.
<djszapi> 'Your second related to "--verbose" where_you are not seeing pids being_logged for pre-start scripts_for example?'_->_Yup.
<djszapi> never tried_/var/log/daemon.log,_keybuk said_it should be in syslog, he has_never mentioned_this daemon.log.
<djszapi> and