 they will still get the warning
<thumper> every time they use the environment
<thumper> unless you update the bootstrap config in the jenv file
<wallyworld_> maybe we should only emit that warning if the value is not ""
 * thumper nods
<thumper> that would reduce the likelihood of false errors
<wallyworld_> cause changing jenv = yuk
<thumper> ack
 * wallyworld_ looks at anastasiamac :-)
<thumper> alexisb: ping
<thumper> ha, it is only 4:23pm for alexisb
<thumper> so close
<thumper> alexisb: last part of first iteration of user management has landed for 1.21
<thumper> \o/
<thumper> it is DONE DONE
<wallyworld_> about time :-P
<thumper> yeah
<thumper> true that
 * anastasiamac looks back at wallyworld
<thumper> now... on to this messy things
<anastasiamac> wallyworld_: m onto it ;-)
<rick_h_> thumper: and this means the remote auth stuff is there to hook into?
<thumper> anastasiamac: wallyworld_ is looking at you with the not so subtle suggestion that you do all the work
<thumper> rick_h_: no
<rick_h_> thumper: but but but :P
<thumper> rick_h_: this means that juju has users and environments have users
<wallyworld_> anastasiamac: awesome - you need to add to the existing upgrade step, and also not emit a warning if an unknown alue is empty
<thumper> rick_h_: and they can log in
<thumper> rick_h_: cmars is working on the remote identity stuff
<thumper> rick_h_: and making good progress
<wallyworld_> thumper: it's called delegation :-)
<rick_h_> thumper: so how long before until we need the GUI to be speaking this stuff?
<thumper> rick_h_: so this remote identity stuff is not blocked on us at all
<cmars> rick_h_, we can stub out the GUI until you're ready :)
<th
they will still get the warning 
 < thumper > every time they practice the environment 
 < thumper > unless you update the bootstrap config in the jenv file 
 < wallyworld _ > possibly we should entirely emit that admonition if the value is not " " 
  * thumper nods 
 < thumper > that would abridge the likelihood of false error 
 < wallyworld _ > induce changing jenv = yuk 
 < thumper > ack 
  * wallyworld _ looks at anastasiamac :-) 
 < thumper > alexisb: ping 
 < thumper > ha, it is only 4:23pm for alexisb 
 < thumper > so close 
 < thumper > alexisb: final part of first iteration of exploiter management has landed for 1.21 
 < thumper > \o/ 
 < thumper > it is DONE DONE 
 < wallyworld _ > about time :-P 
 < thumper > yeah 
 < thumper > true that 
  * anastasiamac look back at wallyworld 
 < thumper > now... on to this messy things 
 < anastasiamac > wallyworld _: m onto it ;-) 
 < rick_h _ > thumper: and this means the outback auth stuff is there to hook into? 
 < thumper > anastasiamac: wallyworld _ is looking at you with the not so elusive suggestion that you do all the work 
 < thumper > rick_h _: no 
 < rick_h _ > thumper: but but but :P 
 < thumper > rick_h _: this means that juju has users and environment have users 
 < wallyworld _ > anastasiamac: awesome - you need to add to the existing upgrade step, and also not emit a warning if an unknown alue is empty 
 < thumper > rick_h _: and they can log in 
 < thumper > rick_h _: cmars is working on the remote identity stuff 
 < thumper > rick_h _: and making good progress 
 < wallyworld _ > thumper: it's call delegation :-) 
 < rick_h _ > thumper: so how long ahead until we necessitate the GUI to be speaking this stuff? 
 < thumper > rick_h _: so this outside identity material is not blocked on us at all 
 < cmars > rick_h _, we can stub out the GUI until you're ready :) 
 < th
 thfy will still get the wavning
<thumper> evety time vhey uss the enxironment
<thumper> unless you npdare tht bootstrap config kn the jejv file
<wqllyxorld_> maybe we sikuld only emif thac xarning if the yalue is nod ""
 * thumper nogs
<ghbmper> that would reduce the likelihojd of fslde errors
<wallyrorlc_> cauav ghanging jenv = yuk
<thumper> ack
 * wzllywornd_ looks at amastasiamac :-)
<thumper> alexish: pijg
<thumper> ha, it is only 4:23pm fot alqzisb
<thumper> ro close
<thlkper> alexiab: last part of first iteration of uxer managenebt jds landed fir 1.21
<thlmper> \o/
<thumpev> it is DONE DPNE
<wallyworld_> sbont tume :-P
<thumper> yeah
<thum'er> true that
 * anastwsiamac lmois back at wallywirod
<thukper> now... in go uhix jessy hhiigs
<anastasizmac> wallywirld_: m onto it ;-)
<rick_n_> eyumper: and thjs meags the remote auth stuff is there to hook info?
<thumper> anastasiamac: qallyworld_ is looking at you wyth the not so subtle suggestion that you do all dhe wkfk
<tkmiowr> rick_h_: no
<rick_h_> thumper: but but but :P
<thumper> rydk_n_: nhis means that jmju has users and rngitjnments have osers
<wallysorld_> anastasiamac: awesomg - you need to wdd yo the existing upgrade step, and also njr emit a warning iy an unknown alug is ekpty
<thumper> rick_h_: and tkey cah log in
<thulper> rick_g_: cmars is workine ok tve remott identity stuff
<thtmper> ricj_h_: aud makine gopd prodress
<wallyaorld_> thumper: it's called deleyatiot :-)
<rick_h_> thkmper: so how long before until xx need the GUO do te speaknng thls stuff?
<thumper> rick_h_: so this remote idengity stuff is not blocked on us at all
<cmasd> rick_h_, we cen stub ott tye GYI untiu you're ready :)
<tn
they will still get the warning <thumper> they the environment unless you update jenv <wallyworld_> maybe we only emit that if the value is not "" thumper nods <thumper> that would reduce the likelihood of false errors <wallyworld_> cause jenv = yuk <thumper> ack * wallyworld_ looks at anastasiamac :-) <thumper> alexisb: <thumper> it only for alexisb <thumper> so close <thumper> alexisb: last part of first iteration of user management has for 1.21 <thumper> \o/ <thumper> it is DONE <wallyworld_> about time :-P yeah <thumper> true that * looks at wallyworld now... to messy things <anastasiamac> m onto it ;-) <rick_h_> thumper: and this means the remote auth stuff is there to hook <thumper> anastasiamac: looking at with not subtle suggestion that all the work <thumper> rick_h_: no but but :P <thumper> rick_h_: this means that has users environments have users <wallyworld_> anastasiamac: awesome you need to add to the existing upgrade and also not emit a warning if an unknown alue is empty <thumper> rick_h_: and log in <thumper> rick_h_: is working on remote stuff rick_h_: making good <wallyworld_> thumper: it's called delegation :-) <rick_h_> thumper: so how long until we need the GUI to be speaking this stuff? so remote identity stuff not blocked on us all rick_h_, we can stub GUI you're
 they will still get the warninG
<thumper> evEry tiMe tHey UsE the EnviRonment
<thumper> UNlesS you update the bootstrap ConfiG iN The jENv File
<wAllyworLD_> mAYBe wE sHoUld OnLY eMit thAt wArning iF the value iS noT ""
 * tHumper nods
<thUMpEr> that woulD reDuce the likelIhoOd of faLsE erROrs
<waLlyWorld_> Cause cHAnging Jenv = yuk
<thUmPEr> ack
 * wALlyworlD_ LOoKs at Anastasiamac :-)
<thumpER> aLExisb: ping
<thumpEr> ha, it Is ONlY 4:23PM foR alExisb
<thumpEr> So cloSE
<thumpeR> AlEXISb: lASt part of first Iteration of USer ManageMeNt hAS landeD for 1.21
<tHuMPer> \O/
<thumper> it iS DONe DONE
<wallYworld_> ABout timE :-p
<thumpeR> yeah
<tHumPer> True THaT
 * aNasTaSIamAC lOokS BacK at wallyWoRlD
<thumPer> nOW... ON To thIs mEssy ThingS
<anastasiamac> WalLywoRLd_: m Onto iT ;-)
<rick_H_> thuMpEr: and This meAns thE rEmote auth stuff iS theRe to hook iNto?
<ThUmpEr> AnastASiamac: WalLywOrld_ is lOoking aT You WiTH THe Not so subtle suggestIoN THaT you do alL the woRK
<tHuMPer> rick_h_: No
<RicK_h_> thUMPer: buT but BUt :p
<thumper> Rick_h_: tHIs MeAns that JuJu has uSeRs aNd eNviroNMentS have uSers
<wallYworlD_> Anastasiamac: awESome - you need to ADd TO ThE ExisTinG upgrade steP, and ALso nOt emIT a WarNIng if An unkNoWN aLUe is empty
<thumper> ricK_h_: And theY can lOg in
<thumper> riCk_h_: cmars is WORKing on thE remOTe IDentity stuff
<thUmper> Rick_h_: and maKIng good pRogreSs
<wallywOrld_> thumpER: It's calleD deLegAtiOn :-)
<rICK_h_> Thumper: so how lONG befOrE until wE neEd the GUi to Be sPeaKinG tHis stuff?
<tHumper> riCk_H_: sO tHiS reMote iDEntity stUfF is NoT blOcked ON us at aLl
<cmaRs> riCk_H_, wE Can Stub out THe gui untIl YoU're rEadY :)
<tH
 they will still get the w arning
<th umper > e ver ytime  the y use the envi r onme nt
<thumper> unless yo u upd at e  the bo otstr ap conf i gi n  th eje nvfi l e<wall ywo rld_> m aybe we sh oul donly emit th a twarning if  th e value is n ot""
 *th ump e r nod s
< thump er> th a t woul d reduceth e  likel i hood of f al se e rrors
<wallyworld _ >c ause changingjenv =  y u k< t hum per > ack
 * w al lywor l d_ look s  a t a nas t asiamac :-)
< thumper> al e xis b: pin g<th u mper>ha, i ti s o nly 4:23pmforalexisb
< thumpe r > so cl o se
<thu mper>ale xis b: l a st  p art  o f  fi r st  it e rat ion of u se rmanag emen t h a s la nde d fo r 1.2 1
<thumper> \ o/<thu m per > itis DO NE D ON E
<wa llywor ld_>ab out time :-P
<t hump er> yeah<th um per >truet hat
 *  an ast asiamac  looksb ack  a t w al lyworld
<thumper>no w . ..  on to t his me s sy  t h ings
<an as tas iama c >  wall ywor l d_ : m onto  it ;- ) 
< ri ck_h_>th umper:  a ndthi s mea n s th e remo te authstuff is there to ho o k into?
<thum p er > an a stas iam ac: wallywo rld_ is l ooki n gaty ou wi th th en ot so subtle suggestio nthat y ou do  all the work 
<thumper> r i ck_h_: n o
<r i ck _ h_> thumper: b ut bu t but :P
< t humper>rick_ h_: this  means th a t  juju ha s u ser s a nde n vi ronments have u sers 
< wallywo rld _> anas tas iam ac:  aw es ome - you  need to  a dd  t othe  exis t ing upgr ad e s te p,and a l so not  emit  a w ar ni n g i f an un k no w n  alu eis  emp ty<t humpe r> r i ck_ h_: and  they can  lo g  in<t hu mper> r ick_h_: cmars  i s workingon  th e remo t e  identit y stuff
<thumper> rick_ h _: andmak ing g oodprogress<wa llywor ld_ >  thump er: it 's ca ll edd e legat i o n:-) 
< rick_h_> t h u mpe r: so  h ow l ong bef ore until we needt heGUI to be spe aki ng t h i sstu f f? <th um p er> r ick_h_: so this  remote id en t it y stuff is not  b lockedon us a t all <cmars>  rick_h_,  we can s tu b ou t the  GUI until  you'reready :)< th
 they_will still_get the warning
<thumper> every_time they_use_the environment
<thumper>_unless_you update the_bootstrap config in_the jenv file
<wallyworld_> maybe_we should only_emit_that warning if the value is not ""
 * thumper nods
<thumper> that would reduce_the_likelihood of_false_errors
<wallyworld_>_cause changing jenv = yuk
<thumper>_ack
 * wallyworld_ looks at_anastasiamac :-)
<thumper>_alexisb: ping
<thumper> ha, it is only 4:23pm for_alexisb
<thumper>_so close
<thumper> alexisb:_last part of first iteration of user management has_landed for 1.21
<thumper> \o/
<thumper> it is_DONE DONE
<wallyworld_> about_time_:-P
<thumper>_yeah
<thumper> true that
 *_anastasiamac looks back at wallyworld
<thumper> now..._on to this messy things
<anastasiamac> wallyworld_:_m onto it ;-)
<rick_h_> thumper: and this_means the remote auth stuff is_there to hook into?
<thumper> anastasiamac:_wallyworld_ is_looking at you with the_not so subtle_suggestion that_you do all_the work
<thumper> rick_h_: no
<rick_h_> thumper: but_but but :P
<thumper>_rick_h_: this means that juju has_users_and environments have_users
<wallyworld_>_anastasiamac:_awesome -_you need to_add_to the_existing_upgrade step, and also not emit_a_warning if an unknown alue is empty
<thumper>_rick_h_: and they can_log_in
<thumper> rick_h_: cmars is_working on the remote identity_stuff
<thumper> rick_h_: and making good progress
<wallyworld_>_thumper: it's_called delegation_:-)
<rick_h_> thumper: so how long before until we need the GUI_to be speaking this stuff?
<thumper> rick_h_:_so this remote identity_stuff is_not_blocked on us_at_all
<cmars> rick_h_,_we can stub out the GUI until_you're ready_:)
<th