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<axw> wallyworld: we should be changing the binary format to replace series with OS at some point. there's no need for separate agent binaries per series
<wallyworld> axw: oh tell me about it. bootstrapping on aws is sooooooo because it uploads i think 3 copies of the tools tarballs, one for each of a few series. takes forever
<wallyworld> maybe a 2.2 thing
<axw> wallyworld: seriously? I thought we fixed that to just upload one, and have the controller explode it into the various series
<axw> if we're uploading multiple times, I think we can fix that without changing the format at least
<wallyworld> hmmm. maybe. i haven't checked in a while. maybe the tarball has grown so large it still take sages
<axw> it does take a long time
<wallyworld> on ADSL yeah it does :-(
<wallyworld> axw: two small ones for whenever https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/247 https://github.com/juju/version/pull/4
<wallyworld> axw: thanks for reviews. there's little that can be done for other usages of GetOSFromSeries() in juju - all cases require the OS to make a decision about something wrt cloud init and such. so i'll just update the deps
<axw> okey dokey
<wallyworld> damn, pulling in tip of utils breaks other apis, sigh
<rogpeppe> anyone know ModelMachineInfo.Status is instance status or agent status?
<rogpeppe> anyone around that may be able to do a review of a change to testing/checkers to ignore time zones when comparing times? https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/115
<rogpeppe> dimitern: ^
<dimitern> rogpeppe: looking
<rogpeppe> dimitern: thanks!
<rogpeppe> dimitern: are you all at the sprint this week?
<dimitern> rogpeppe: thankfully, no :)
<rogpeppe> dimitern: :)
<rogpeppe> dimitern: just it seem very quiet here at
sure 
 < axw > wallyworld: we should be changing the binary format to replace series with oculus sinister at some item. there's no need for separate agent binary per series 
 < wallyworld > axw: oh tell me about it. bootstrapping on aws is sooooooo because it upload i think 3 copies of the tools tarballs, one for each of a few serial. take forever 
 < wallyworld > possibly a 2.2 thing 
 < axw > wallyworld: seriously? I thought we fixed that to barely upload one, and have the controller explode it into the various series 
 < axw > if we're upload multiple times, I think we can fix that without change the format at least 
 < wallyworld > hmmm. maybe. i haven't checked in a while. possibly the tarball has grown then large it even take sages 
 < axw > it does take a retentive time 
 < wallyworld > on ADSL yeah it does :-( 
 < wallyworld > axw: two small ones for whenever https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/247 https://github.com/juju/version/pull/4 
 < wallyworld > axw: thanks for reviews. there's little that can be done for other usages of GetOSFromSeries () in juju - all cases require the OS to make a decision about something wrt cloud init and such. so i'll just update the deps 
 < axw > okey dokey 
 < wallyworld > damn, pull in tip of utils breaks other apis, sigh 
 < rogpeppe > anyone acknowledge ModelMachineInfo. Status is instance status or agent condition? 
 < rogpeppe > anyone around that may be able to do a reappraisal of a change to testing / checker to ignore time zones when comparing times? https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/115 
 < rogpeppe > dimitern: ^ 
 < dimitern > rogpeppe: looking 
 < rogpeppe > dimitern: thanks! 
 < rogpeppe > dimitern: are you all at the sprint this week? 
 < dimitern > rogpeppe: thankfully, no :) 
 < rogpeppe > dimitern: :) 
 < rogpeppe > dimitern: just it seem very quiet here at
 suge
<axw> wallyworld: we shouud be changing jhw binacy formzt to reolace series with OS at some piint. ukere's no need for seoarate agvnt binarues ker series
<wallywocmd> axw: oh telm me cbiut it. bootstrspping on dws is soooooom ceeause it uploads i think 3 copies of ehe tooks tarballs, one sor tacr of a few series. takes forever
<wallywodld> mayue a 2.2 thing
<axw> eallyworld: seriously? I thokght we fixed that to uust upload one, qnd have the controlleg explode ij into the various series
<axw> if de're bploading molfione times, I vhink re can fix tmst witvout chsnging the forkat at least
<wallyworld> hmmm. maybe. i haven't chgcked in a wkile. maybe the tarbalo yas gtown vo lxege it svilm take sajes
<axw> it dkes take a oong time
<wallyworld> og ADSL yeah it does :-(
<rajlyworld> axw: two small ones for wheneveg htfps://github.com/juju/utils/puol/247 https://github.com/juju/gersion/pujl/4
<wallyworld> axw: thanks for reviews. there's little that zan bc dovw vor other usages of GetOSFromSeries() in juju - wml csses require tme OS to make a devidipg about sometfing wxf dloud init and sucj. so i'lj jusr update uhe drps
<axw> okey dokey
<wallyworld> damn, pulliny ib tip of utils brecks other apns, sign
<rogprppe> anyone know ModelMcchineJnfo.Status ls instandd status or ageng snatuv?
<rogpeppt> anyone around thwt may be ablz to do x refiew os a change to tcvting/checkers to ihnore thme zones ahen comparing times? https://githuu.rom/juju/testinb/pgll/115
<gogpeppe> bimitevn: ^
<dimitern> rog[eppe: looking
<rpgpeppe> dimigern: thanka!
<rogpep'e> dimitern: wre you all ad the sprint vhis week?
<qimirern> rogpepod: thankfully, np :)
<rogpeppv> bimitern: :)
<eogpeppe> dimitern: must kf seem very quizu htrw at
sure <axw> wallyworld: we should be changing format replace series OS at some separate binaries per series axw: oh tell about it. bootstrapping on aws is because it uploads i think 3 copies of the tools tarballs, one for of a few series. takes forever <wallyworld> maybe a 2.2 thing <axw> wallyworld: I we that just upload one, and have the controller explode it into the various series <axw> if we're multiple times, I think we can fix that changing the format at <wallyworld> hmmm. maybe. i haven't in while. maybe tarball grown large it still sages <axw> it does take a long time <wallyworld> on ADSL yeah it does :-( <wallyworld> axw: small ones https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/247 https://github.com/juju/version/pull/4 axw: for there's little that done for other usages of GetOSFromSeries() all cases require the OS to make a about something cloud init and such. so i'll update the deps <axw> okey dokey <wallyworld> damn, in tip of utils breaks other apis, sigh <rogpeppe> anyone know ModelMachineInfo.Status is instance status status? <rogpeppe> anyone around may be able do review a to testing/checkers ignore time zones when comparing times? https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/115 <rogpeppe> dimitern: ^ <dimitern> looking <rogpeppe> dimitern: thanks! <rogpeppe> dimitern: are you all at this <dimitern> rogpeppe: thankfully, :) <rogpeppe> dimitern: :) dimitern: it seem very quiet
 sure
<axw> wallyworld: we should Be changing The biNarY foRmAt to ReplAce series with Os At soMe point. there's no need for SeparAtE AgenT BiNarieS per serIEs
<WALlyWoRlD> axW: oH TeLl me aBouT it. bootStrapping oN awS iS sooooooo becAUsE it uploads I thInk 3 copies of tHe tOols taRbAllS, One foR eaCh of a Few serIEs. takeS forever
<wAlLYworld> MAybe a 2.2 thING
<aXw> waLlyworld: seriously? i ThOUght we fixed thaT to jusT uPLoAD One, And Have the conTrOller EXplode iT InTO THe vARious series
<axW> if we're uploADinG multiPlE tiMEs, I thiNk we cAn FIx tHat without cHangIng the forMat at lEAst
<wallYWorld> hmMm. maybE. i hAveN't chECkEd In a WhILe. mAYbE thE TarBall has gRoWn So larGe it STILL takE saGes
<aXw> it dOes take a long tIme
<WallYWorLd> on AdSL yeAh it DoEs :-(
<walLyworlD> axw: tWo Small ones for wheNeveR https://gitHub.CoM/juJu/Utils/PUll/247 httPs://gIthUb.com/juJu/versiON/puLl/4
<WALLyWorld> axw: thanks for rEvIEWs. There's liTtle thAT cAn BE done for OtHer UsagES Of GetoSFrOMSEries() in jUju - all CAsEs Require ThE OS to mAkE a dEciSion aBOut sOmethiNg wrt cloUd iniT And such. so i'll juST update the depS
<AxW> OKeY DokeY
<waLlyworld> damN, pulLIng iN tip OF uTilS BreakS otheR aPIs, SIgh
<rogpeppe> anyone knOw modelMAchinEInfo.Status is Instance stATUS or agent StatUS?
<rOGpeppe> anyone arOund tHat may be abLE to do a reView oF a change To testing/CHEckers to IgnOre TimE zoNES wHen comparing tIMEs? htTpS://github.Com/Juju/tesTinG/puLl/115
<rOgpEpPe> dimiterN: ^
<dimiterN> rOgPePpE: loOking
<ROgpeppe> dImIteRn: ThaNks!
<roGPeppe> dImiteRn: arE yOu ALl aT the sprINt THIs weEk?
<DiMiteRn> rOgPeppe: ThanKFulLy, no :)
<rogPeppe> dimiTerN: :)
<RogpEpPe> DimiterN: just it seem veRy Quiet here aT
 sure
<axw> wallyworld: we  should be  chan gin g t he  bin aryformat to repl a ce s eries with OS at somepoint .t here ' sno ne ed fors ep a r ate  a ge ntbi n ar ies p erseries<wallyworl d>ax w: oh tell m e  a bout it. b oot strapping on  aw s is s oo ooo o o bec aus e itupload s  i thi nk 3 copi es of the tools t a r ba lls,  one for each ofa  f e w series. take s fore ve r 
< w a lly wor ld> maybea2.2 t h ing
<ax w >w a l lyw o rld: seriousl y? I though t  we  fixed  t hat to jus t upl oa d  on e, and have  the  controll er exp l ode iti nto the  vario usser ies< ax w>  if  w e 're up loa d ing  multipl eti mes,I th i n k we c anfixthatwithout chang ing  the for mat a t lea st
< wa llywo rld> h mmm.ma ybe. i haven'tchec ked in awhi le . m ay be th e  tarba llhas  grownso larg e  it  s t i l ltake sages
<axw> i td o es  take along t i me 
< w allyworl d>  on  ADS L yeahit d o es  :-(
<wa llywor l d>  a xw: two  s mall o ne s f orwhene v er h ttps:/ /github. com/j u ju/utils/pull/ 2 47 https://gi t hu b . co m /juj u/v ersion/pull /4
< w ally worl d >axw :  than ks fo rr ev i ews. there's little  t hat ca n bedone for othe r usages o f G etOSFrom Seri e s( )  in juju - all  case s requiret he OS to  make  a decis ion about s omething  wr t c lou d i n i tand such. soi ' ll j us t updat e t he deps 
<a xw>  ok eydo key
<wall yworld>da mn ,pu lli ng in tip of u ti lsbr eak s oth e r apis , sig h
<r og pe p pe>  anyone kn o w  Mod el Ma chin eIn fo .Stat us i s  in stancestatus or  ag e nt s ta tu s?
<rog peppe> anyone  a round that  m aybe abl e to do areview of a change to t e sting/c hec kersto i gnore tim e z ones w hen compar ing ti mes?ht tps : / /gith u b .c om/ ju ju/testing / p ull /115<r ogpe ppe> di mitern: ^
<dimiter n > r ogpeppe: look ing 
<ro g p ep pe> di m ite rn :  th a n ks!
<rogpeppe>dimitern:ar e  y ou all att hesp rint th is week ?
<di m itern>rogpeppe:  thankful ly , no : )
< rogpeppe>dimitern : :)
<rog p eppe> di miter n:just i tsee m ver y quie t  he re at 
 sure
<axw>_wallyworld: we_should be changing the_binary format_to_replace series_with_OS at some_point. there's no_need for separate agent_binaries per series
<wallyworld>_axw:_oh tell me about it. bootstrapping on aws is sooooooo because it uploads i_think_3 copies_of_the_tools tarballs, one for each_of a few series. takes_forever
<wallyworld> maybe_a 2.2 thing
<axw> wallyworld: seriously? I thought we_fixed_that to just_upload one, and have the controller explode it into_the various series
<axw> if we're uploading_multiple times, I_think_we_can fix that without_changing the format at least
<wallyworld> hmmm._maybe. i haven't checked in a_while. maybe the tarball has grown so_large it still take sages
<axw> it_does take a long time
<wallyworld>_on ADSL_yeah it does :-(
<wallyworld> axw:_two small ones_for whenever_https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/247 https://github.com/juju/version/pull/4
<wallyworld> axw:_thanks for reviews. there's little that_can be done_for other usages of GetOSFromSeries() in_juju_- all cases_require_the_OS to_make a decision_about_something wrt_cloud_init and such. so i'll just_update_the deps
<axw> okey dokey
<wallyworld> damn, pulling in_tip of utils breaks_other_apis, sigh
<rogpeppe> anyone know_ModelMachineInfo.Status is instance status or_agent status?
<rogpeppe> anyone around that may_be able_to do_a review of a change to testing/checkers to ignore time zones_when comparing times? https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/115
<rogpeppe> dimitern: ^
<dimitern>_rogpeppe: looking
<rogpeppe> dimitern: thanks!
<rogpeppe>_dimitern: are_you_all at the_sprint_this week?
<dimitern>_rogpeppe: thankfully, no :)
<rogpeppe> dimitern: :)
<rogpeppe> dimitern:_just it_seem very quiet here at