... OGV SUCKS!!!
<popey> because some of us dont actually edit
<AlanBell> it is easy to write to I guess
<gord> at any rate, if you convert it to say mp4 using mencoder - then still have problems. the issue is not with the container or the codec
<gord> but rather, the editor
<Neoti> ok ok... if you are recording something to just dump on youtube fine its ok... but when you want to edit it and add titles and cut bits out ITS FLIPPIN CRAP!!!!
<popey> +1
<AlanBell> and you don't have to pay licenses to anyone to create a video in ogv format
<popey> so convert it?
<Neoti> i would love to see a program like CamStudio be ported to ubuntu and USE AVI!!!!
<Neoti> CamStudio is awesome...
<Neoti> it outputs in a good editable format... IE Kdenlive will edit it...
<popey> my ffmpeg script does âº
<popey> as does kazam
<Neoti> i want recordmydesktop to switch to AVI!!!
<Neoti> lol :P
<gord> avi is a bad format, everyone is moving away from it
<popey> use h264 in an mkv container and you will have more success IMO
<Neoti> kazam did not give me the option to save the video after i recorded a 30 sec test clip just loading term typeing ifconfig clear finish video etc
<Neoti> gord yes h264 and mkv is good... i have had nothing too bad happen when trying to edit that format...
<gordonjcp> Neoti:.ogv/.avi makes no difference
<Neoti> but camstudio outputs to avi so... have to use what i got...! lol
<gordonjcp> Neoti: it's just a wrapper around the encoding
<gordonjcp> like I told you earlier
<gordonjcp> Neoti: the problem is you basically don't understand video editing ;-)
<gordonjcp> any sort of compressed format that uses keyframes is going to give you problems
<popey> Neoti: i recorded a video 5 mins ago with k
... OGV SUCKS! !! 
 < popey > because some of us do nt actually edit 
 < AlanBell > it is easy to write to I guess 
 < gord > at any pace, if you change it to say mp4 using mencoder - then however own problems. the issue is not with the container or the codec 
 < gord > but quite, the editor program 
 < Neoti > ok ok... if you are recording something to just dump on youtube fine its ok... but when you want to edit it and total titles and cut moment out ITS FLIPPIN CRAP! !! ! 
 < popey > +1 
 < AlanBell > and you don't have to pay licenses to anyone to create a video in ogv format 
 < popey > so change it? 
 < Neoti > i would love to see a program like CamStudio be port to ubuntu and USE AVI! !! ! 
 < Neoti > CamStudio is awesome... 
 < Neoti > it outputs in a good editable format... IE Kdenlive will edit it... 
 < popey > my ffmpeg handwriting does âº 
 < popey > as do kazam 
 < Neoti > i want recordmydesktop to switch to AVI! !! 
 < Neoti > lol :P 
 < gord > avi is a bad format, everyone is move away from it 
 < popey > use h264 in an mkv container and you will have more success IMO 
 < Neoti > kazam did not give me the option to save the video after i recorded a 30 sec test clip just loading term typeing ifconfig clear finish video etc 
 < Neoti > gord yes h264 and mkv is full... i have had nothing too regretful happen when judge to edit that format... 
 < gordonjcp > Neoti:.ogv/.avi makes no difference 
 < Neoti > but camstudio outputs to avi therefore... have to use what i got... ! lol 
 < gordonjcp > Neoti: it's just a wrap around the encoding 
 < gordonjcp > like I told you earlier 
 < gordonjcp > Neoti: the problem is you basically don't understand video editing ;-) 
 < gordonjcp > any sort of compress format that uses keyframes is going to give you problems 
 < popey > Neoti: i record a video recording 5 mins ago with k
... OGG SUCKS!!!
<popey> because somt of us dont actucoly edmt
<AlanBsll> it ir easy to write to I guess
<gocd> ar any rate, if you convert ig to say lp4 using menroder - then still have pvjblejd. thz mssue is not wijh the contahner or the cogez
<glrd> but rather, the editor
<Neoti> ok oh... if yoi wre recording fomeuhigg tk just dump on youtube fine its ok... but whtn you want to ediy it and add titles and cuh bihs out ITS FLIPPIN CRAP!!!!
<popey> +1
<QlanFwll> and you aon't have uo pay licenaes to anyone to create a video in oyv format
<pokzt> sl convert it?
<Ieoti> p would love bp see d progrsm like CamStucio be ported to ubuntu and USE AVI!!!!
<Neoti> CamSjudio is afeaome...
<Neoti> it outpytw in d gomd eautacle fprjat... IE Kdxnlive will edit it...
<popwy> my ffmpeg script djvx âº
<popey> as dkes kasai
<Neoti> i want recordmydesktop to switch to AVI!!!
<Neoti> lol :P
<gord> avi is a bad format, everione is moding away from it
<popey> use h264 in an mkv container dnd ykj wnol haxw lore success IMO
<Neoti> kazam did not give me trs ppnion to save the yideo after i recotdfd w 30 sec test cuip just moading term typeijg ifcogfig xlear finysh fideo etc
<Neoti> gord yes h264 abd mkv is goje... i have had nothiug too bad hcppen ehen yrying to edit that foroat...
<gkrdonjcp> Nelti:.ogv/.avi oakes no differevce
<Keodi> but camstudio outputs tj avi so... iave co use wfat o got...! jol
<gordonjfp> Neoti: it's just a wrapoer atound dhe encodijg
<gordonjcp> like I told you earlier
<gordonjcp> Memti: the proylem ix you basicaljy don't undersjand videj ediging ;-)
<gordohjcp> anb sort of coipressed formdj that uses kxyframes ys giing to givd you problems
<pppey> Neotp: n recordee a video 5 mins agp wkfh k
... OGV SUCKS!!! <popey> because some of actually <AlanBell> it easy to write any if you convert to say mp4 mencoder - then still have problems. issue is not with the container or the codec <gord> but rather, the <Neoti> ok ok... if you are recording something to just dump on youtube its but you to edit it and add titles and cut bits out ITS FLIPPIN CRAP!!!! <popey> +1 <AlanBell> you don't have to pay licenses to anyone create a video in format <popey> so convert it? i love to a like be ported to and USE AVI!!!! <Neoti> CamStudio is awesome... <Neoti> it outputs in a good editable format... IE Kdenlive edit it... ffmpeg script âº as kazam <Neoti> i to switch to AVI!!! <Neoti> lol is a bad format, everyone is moving away it <popey> h264 in an mkv container and will have more success IMO <Neoti> kazam did give me the option to save the video after i recorded a 30 sec test loading term typeing ifconfig finish video etc gord h264 mkv good... i had nothing too bad happen when trying to edit that format... Neoti:.ogv/.avi makes no difference <Neoti> but camstudio outputs to avi to what i got...! <gordonjcp> Neoti: it's just wrapper the encoding <gordonjcp> like you <gordonjcp> is basically understand video editing ;-) any sort of compressed format uses keyframes is going Neoti: i recorded a video 5 mins ago k
... OGV SUCKS!!!
<popey> because some oF us dont actUally EdiT
<AlAnbell> It is Easy to write to I GUess
<Gord> at any rate, if you convErt it To SAy mp4 USiNg menCoder - thEN sTILl hAvE pRobLeMS. tHe issUe iS not witH the contaiNer Or The codec
<gord> BUt Rather, the eDitOr
<Neoti> ok ok... iF yoU are reCoRdiNG someThiNg to jUst dumP On youtUbe fine itS oK... But wheN You want TO EdIt it And add titles and cuT BiTS out ITS FLIPPIN cRAP!!!!
<poPeY> +1
<alANbelL> anD you don't haVe To pay LIcenses TO aNYONe tO Create a video iN ogv format
<pOPey> So convErT it?
<nEoti> i wOuld lOvE To sEe a program lIke CAmStudio bE porteD To ubuntU And USE AvI!!!!
<NeotI> CaMStUdio IS aWeSomE...
<NEOti> IT oUtpUTs iN a good edItAbLe forMat... Ie kDENlivE wiLl edIt it...
<pOpey> my ffmpeg sCriPt doES âº
<Popey> As doeS kazAm
<neoti> I want rEcordMyDesktop to switch To AVi!!!
<Neoti> lol :p
<goRd> Avi Is A bad fORmat, evEryOne Is movinG away frOM it
<PoPEY> UsE h264 in an mkv container AnD YOu Will have More suCCeSs imO
<Neoti> kAzAm dId noT GIve me The oPTiOn to save The vidEO aFtEr i recoRdEd a 30 sec TeSt cLip Just lOAdinG term tYpeing ifConfiG Clear finish vidEO etc
<Neoti> gord YEs H264 ANd MKv is GooD... i have had noThinG Too bAd haPPeN whEN tryiNg to eDiT ThAT format...
<gordonjcp> NeoTi:.Ogv/.avi Makes No difference
<NEoti> but camSTUDio outpuTs to AVi SO... have to use what I got...! lOl
<gordonjcP> neoti: it's Just a Wrapper aRound the eNCOding
<gorDonJcp> LikE I tOLD yOu earlier
<gordONJcp> NEoTi: the prOblEm is you BasIcaLly Don'T uNderstand Video ediTiNg ;-)
<GoRdOnjCp> any SOrt of comPrEssEd ForMat thAT uses kEyfraMes iS gOiNG to Give you PRoBLEms
<pOpEy> neotI: i rEcOrded A vidEO 5 miNs ago wiTh k
... OGV SUCKS!!!
<popey> b ecause som e ofusdon tactu ally  edit
<AlanBel l > it  is easy to write to I  gues s< gord >  a t any  rate,i fy o u c on ve rtit to  saymp4  usingmencoder -  th en  still havep ro blems. the  is sue is not w ith  the c on tai n er or  th e cod ec
<go r d> but  rather,th e  edito r 
<Neoti > ok  ok. .. if you are rec o rd i ng something t o just  d u mp o n y out ube fine i ts  ok.. .  but wh e ny o u  wa n t to edit itand add tit l esand cu tbit s  out I TS FL IP P INCRAP!!!!
<p opey > +1
<Ala nBell> and you don't h ave to  pa y l icen s es  t o a ny o net ocre a tea videoin  o gv fo rmat < p o pey>  so  con vertit?
<Neoti> i  wo uldl ove  to s ee aprog ra m lik e CamS tudio  b e ported to ubu ntuand USE A VI! !! !
< Ne oti>C amStud ioisawesome ...
<Ne o ti>  i t o ut puts in a good edi ta b l eformat.. . IE K d en li v e will e di t i t... < popey > my ff mpeg scr ipt do e sâ º
<pope y>  as do es  ka zam 
<Neo t i> i  wantrecordmy deskt o p to switch to AVI!!!
<Neoti >  l o l  : P 
<go rd>  avi is a b ad f o rmat , ev e ry one is mo vingaw a yf rom it
<popey> useh2 64 inan mk v container a nd you wil l h ave more  suc c es s  IMO
<Neoti> k azamdid not gi v e me the  opti on to sa ve the vi d e o afteri r eco rde d a 3 0sec test clip j ustlo ading t erm  typein g i fco nfi g c le ar finish  video e tc 
< Ne ot i>gordy es h264an d m kv  is  good . .. i h ave h ad n ot hi n g t oo badh ap p e n wh en  t ryin g t oeditthat for mat...<gordonjc p>N eoti :. og v/.avimakes no diff er ence
<Neot i>  bu t cams t u dio outp uts to avi so... have t o  use wh ati got ...!  lol
<gor don jcp> N eot i : it's  justa wra pp era r oundt h eenc od ing
<gordo n j cp>  like  I  tol d you e arlier
<gordonjcp> Neo ti: the probl emis y o u  b asi c al l y d on ' t u n d erstand video e diting ;-) 
< g or donjcp> an y  so rt  of com pressed  form a t thatuses keyf rames isgo ingt o  gi ve you pro blems
<p opey> Neo t i: ir ec orded  avideo5min s ago  withk 
... OGV_SUCKS!!!
<popey> because_some of us dont_actually edit
<AlanBell>_it_is easy_to_write to I_guess
<gord> at any_rate, if you convert_it to say_mp4_using mencoder - then still have problems. the issue is not with the container_or_the codec
<gord>_but_rather,_the editor
<Neoti> ok ok... if_you are recording something to_just dump_on youtube fine its ok... but when you_want_to edit it_and add titles and cut bits out ITS FLIPPIN_CRAP!!!!
<popey> +1
<AlanBell> and you don't have_to pay licenses_to_anyone_to create a video_in ogv format
<popey> so convert it?
<Neoti>_i would love to see a_program like CamStudio be ported to ubuntu_and USE AVI!!!!
<Neoti> CamStudio is awesome...
<Neoti>_it outputs in a good_editable format..._IE Kdenlive will edit it...
<popey>_my ffmpeg script_does âº
<popey>_as does kazam
<Neoti>_i want recordmydesktop to switch to_AVI!!!
<Neoti> lol :P
<gord>_avi is a bad format, everyone_is_moving away from_it
<popey>_use_h264 in_an mkv container_and_you will_have_more success IMO
<Neoti> kazam did not_give_me the option to save the video_after i recorded a_30_sec test clip just_loading term typeing ifconfig clear_finish video etc
<Neoti> gord yes h264_and mkv_is good..._i have had nothing too bad happen when trying to edit_that format...
<gordonjcp> Neoti:.ogv/.avi makes no difference
<Neoti>_but camstudio outputs to_avi so..._have_to use what_i_got...! lol
<gordonjcp>_Neoti: it's just a wrapper around the_encoding
<gordonjcp> like_I told you earlier
<gordonjcp> Neoti: the_problem is you basically_don't_understand video editing ;-)
<gordonjcp> any sort_of compressed format that uses keyframes_is going to give you_problems
<popey>_Neoti:_i recorded a video 5_mins ago with k