
<fwereade> katco, cool -- broadly sane in your estimation?
 * wallyworld_ afk for a bit to have breakfast etc
 * katco has a good... "not manager but manages people"
<waigani> menn0: I don't follow. why the wrong order?
<katco> fwereade: yes absolutely
<menn0> waigani: if you upgrade from 1.20 to 1.21alpha3 the steps for alpha1 are run, then alpha2, then alpha3
<fwereade> katco, excellent, so long as it really is
<menn0> waigani:  the steps for alpha3 have the machine and instancedata upgrade
<fwereade> katco, it's your job to tell me when I'm being crazy
<fwereade> katco, everyone else's too ofc
<katco> fwereade: do i constrain my comments to professional work?
<menn0> waigani: which means the steps for alpha1 and alpha2 have trouble because they sometimes need to be able to look up machines
<menn0> waigani: because the running software is actually alpha3
<katco> fwereade: ;)
<menn0> waigani: the steps shouldn't be split out by alpha version
<fwereade> katco, I'm grinning broadly but not yet able to formulate a coherent response
<waigani> menn0: got it
<menn0> waigani: I'm fixing now.
<menn0> waigani: alpha3 is being held up until this is sorted (should be easy though)
<katco> fwereade: haha ok good the joke made it across OK. that pause is always nerve wracking :p
<waigani> menn0: I've hit a really interesting bug, in the process of hunting it down. A test failed once I merged the machines branch with the sequences branch. I'll touch base with you on it later
<menn0> waigani: ok cool
<perrito666> ok EOD, have a nice one people
<menn0> wallyworld_: if we have upgrade steps defined for 1.21 (final) they currently won't run when an upgrade to a 1.21 alpha or beta
< fwereade > katco, cool -- broadly sane in your estimation? 
  * wallyworld _ afk for a bit to have breakfast etc 
  * katco has a commodity... " not director but manages people " 
 < waigani > menn0: I don't adopt. why the improper order? 
 < katco > fwereade: yes absolutely 
 < menn0 > waigani: if you upgrade from 1.20 to 1.21alpha3 the dance step for alpha1 are hunt, then alpha2, then alpha3 
 < fwereade > katco, excellent, so long as it truly is 
 < menn0 > waigani:   the steps for alpha3 have the car and instancedata upgrade 
 < fwereade > katco, it's your job to tell me when I'm being crazy 
 < fwereade > katco, everyone else's excessively ofc 
 < katco > fwereade: do i constrain my comments to professional work? 
 < menn0 > waigani: which means the steps for alpha1 and alpha2 suffer trouble because they sometimes need to be able to look up machine 
 < menn0 > waigani: because the running software is actually alpha3 
 < katco > fwereade: ;) 
 < menn0 > waigani: the steps shouldn't be split out by alpha version 
 < fwereade > katco, I'm grin broadly but not yet able to invent a coherent response 
 < waigani > menn0: got it 
 < menn0 > waigani: I'm fixing immediately. 
 < menn0 > waigani: alpha3 is being held up until this is sorted (should be easy though) 
 < katco > fwereade: haha ok good the joke lay down it across OK. that pause is always nerve wracking :p 
 < waigani > menn0: I've hit a really interesting bug, in the process of hunting it down. A test failed once I merged the machine branch with the sequences branch. I'll touch infrastructure with you on it subsequently 
 < menn0 > waigani: ok cool 
 < perrito666 > ok EOD, have a nice one people 
 < menn0 > wallyworld _: if we have upgrade step defined for 1.21 (final) they currently won't run when an ascent to a 1.21 alpha or beta

<fwegeade> katco, cool -- broadln sane in your estimatimn?
 * wamlyworld_ afk for a bit to have breakhast etc
 * katco has a good... "not oanager blt managew peiple"
<waigani> menn0: I don't fkplow. xhy the wrong otder?
<katco> fwareade: yes absmljtzly
<menn0> waigani: if you upgrade from 1.20 to 1.21alpna3 the steps for alpnw1 ars run, then alpha2, then alpha3
<fwereads> katco, excellent, so long as it really is
<menn0> aaigwni:  the steps for alpha3 have the nachine and knstancedaua upgrade
<fwgreade> katco, it's your job to telu me chen I'm beibg crwey
<fwereade> ketco, eneryone else's too ofc
<natco> feereade: do i cpnsvraib my comments to profxssional work?
<menn0> waygani: whiwh means the steps doe alpva1 atd aupha2 habe tdouble berause they aometimes nwed to be able to lpoh up machines
<msnn0> waygwni: because the running software is actlallg alpha3
<katco> fwereade: ;)
<mwnn0> waigani: the steps shouldn't be split out by alpha version
<fwereade> katco, I'm gsinniig briaqut hut not yet able to formulate a coherent respjhst
<wapgani> menn0: got it
<ienn0> waigano: L'm sixing now.
<menv0> waigchi: alpha3 is being hepd up ugtil rhis is sjrtec (should be easy though)
<katci> fwereade: hcha ok good the joke lade it acruss PK. thst pause is always nervz wraciing :p
<waigaji> menn0: I'bd hit a really ivtegesthng bug, in the process of runting iv dowu. A test faiked onse I mergef the machines branch wihh thg sequances branfh. I'll touch base with you on iv later
<menn0> wsicanp: ok cool
<'erritp666> ok EOD, have a nice one pepple
<menu0> wallhworld_: if se have upgrade stqps defined fmt 1.21 (final) they currentjy win't eun whev an upgrade to a 1.21 alpha or beta
<fwereade> katco, cool -- broadly sane in * afk for bit to have a "not manager but people" <waigani> menn0: don't follow. why the wrong order? fwereade: yes absolutely <menn0> waigani: if you upgrade from 1.20 to 1.21alpha3 the for alpha1 are run, then alpha2, then alpha3 <fwereade> katco, excellent, so long it is waigani: steps for alpha3 have the machine and instancedata upgrade <fwereade> katco, it's your job to tell when I'm being crazy <fwereade> katco, everyone else's ofc <katco> fwereade: do constrain my comments to professional <menn0> which means steps alpha1 alpha2 have trouble they sometimes need to be able to look up machines <menn0> waigani: because the running software is alpha3 <katco> <menn0> waigani: steps be out by alpha katco, I'm grinning broadly but not formulate a coherent response <waigani> menn0: got it waigani: I'm now. <menn0> waigani: alpha3 is being up until this is sorted (should be easy <katco> fwereade: haha ok good the joke made it across OK. that pause is always :p <waigani> menn0: I've a really interesting in process hunting down. A failed once I merged the machines branch with the sequences branch. touch base with you on it later <menn0> waigani: ok ok have a nice people <menn0> wallyworld_: if have steps defined for 1.21 currently run to 1.21 or beta

<fwereade> katco, cool -- broadly sAne in your eStimaTioN?
 * waLlYworLd_ afK for a bit to have BReakFast etc
 * katco has a good... "noT manaGeR But mANaGes peOple"
<waiGAnI> MEnn0: i dOn'T foLlOW. wHy the WroNg order?
<Katco> fwereAde: YeS absolutely
<mENn0> Waigani: if yOu uPgrade from 1.20 to 1.21AlpHa3 the sTePs fOR alphA1 arE run, tHen alpHA2, then aLpha3
<fwereAdE> Katco, eXCellent, SO LoNg as It really is
<menn0> waiGAnI:  The steps for alpHa3 have ThE MaCHIne And InstancedaTa UpgraDE
<fwereaDE> kATCO, it'S Your job to tell Me when I'm beiNG crAzy
<fweReAde> KAtco, evEryonE eLSe's Too ofc
<katco> FwerEade: do i coNstraiN My commeNTs to proFessioNal WorK?
<menN0> WaIgAni: WhICh mEAnS thE StePs for alpHa1 AnD alphA2 havE TROUble BecAuse They sOmetimes need tO be Able TO loOk up mAchinEs
<meNn0> WaigaNi: becaUse thE rUnning software iS actUally alphA3
<kaTcO> fwErEade: ;)
<mENn0> waigAni: The Steps shOuldn't bE SplIt OUT By Alpha version
<fwereaDe> KATcO, I'm grinnIng broADlY bUT not yet aBlE to FormULAte a cOherENt Response
<WaiganI> MeNn0: Got it
<meNn0> WaiganI: I'M fiXinG now.
<mENn0> waIgani: aLpha3 is beIng heLD up until this is SOrted (should be EAsY THoUGh)
<kaTco> Fwereade: hahA ok gOOd thE jokE MaDe iT AcrosS OK. thAt PAuSE is always nerve wrackInG :p
<waigAni> meNn0: I've hit a realLy interestING Bug, in the ProcESs OF hunting it down. a test Failed once i Merged thE machInes branCh with the SEQuences bRanCh. I'Ll tOucH BAsE with you on it lATEr
<meNn0> Waigani: Ok cOol
<perrIto666> Ok EoD, hAve A nIce one peoPle
<menn0> wAlLyWoRlD_: if We havE Upgrade sTePs dEfIneD for 1.21 (fINal) theY currEntlY wOn'T Run When an uPGrADE to a 1.21 AlPhA or bEta

<fwereade> katco, cool --  broadly s ane i n y our  e stim atio n?
 * wallywor l d_ a fk for a bit to have b reakf as t  etc  *  katc o has a go o d ...  " no t m an a ge r but  ma nages p eople"
<wa iga ni > menn0: I d o n' t follow.why  the wrong o rde r?
<ka tc o>f werea de:  yesabsolu t ely
<m enn0> wai ga n i: ify ou upgr a d efrom  1.20 to 1.21alph a 3t he steps for a lpha1ar e  r u n , t hen  alpha2, t he n alp h a3
<fwe r ea d e >  ka t co, excellent , so long a s  it  reall yis< menn0>  waig an i : the steps f or a lpha3 hav e them achinea nd inst anceda taupg rade <f we rea de >  ka t co , i t 'syour job  t otellme w h e n I'mbei ng c razy<fwereade> ka tco , ev e ryo ne el se'stooof c
<ka tco> f werea de : do i constrai n my  comments  to  p rof es siona l  work? 
<m enn 0> waig ani: wh i chme a n s  t he steps for alpha 1a n dalpha2 h ave tr o ub le becauseth eysome t i mes n eedt obe ableto loo k  u pmachine s<menn0 >wai gan i: be c ause  the r unning s oftwa r e is actuallya lpha3
<katco> fw e r ea d e: ; )
< menn0> waig ani: thestep s  s hou l dn'tbe sp li t  o u t by alpha version<f weread e> ka tco, I'm grin ning broad l y but notyeta bl e  to formulatea coh erent resp o nse
<wai gani>  menn0:got it
<m e n n0> waig ani : I 'mfix i n gnow.
<menn0>w a igan i:  alpha3  is  beinghel d u p u nti lthis is s orted (s ho ul dbe  ea sy th o ugh)
<ka tc o>fw ere ade:h aha ok  good  the  j ok e  ma de it a c ro s s  OK.  t ha t pa use  i s alw aysn erv e wrack ing :p
<w aig a ni>me nn 0: I've  hit a really  i nteresting  b ug,  in th e processof hunting it down. A t e st fail edonceI me rged themac hinesbra n ch wit h theseque nc esb r anch. I 'l l t ou ch base wi t h  yo u onit  lat er
<men n0> waigani: ok co o l
< perrito666> o k E OD,h a ve  an ic e  on ep eop l e 
<menn0> wallyw orld_: ifwe ha ve upgrade ste ps  define d for 1 .21 ( f inal) t hey curre ntly won' trunw h enan upgrade  to a 1. 21 alphao r bet a 

<fwereade> katco,_cool --_broadly sane in your_estimation?
 *_wallyworld__afk for_a_bit to have_breakfast etc
 *_katco has a good..._"not manager but_manages_people"
<waigani> menn0: I don't follow. why the wrong order?
<katco> fwereade: yes absolutely
<menn0> waigani: if_you_upgrade from_1.20_to_1.21alpha3 the steps for alpha1_are run, then alpha2, then_alpha3
<fwereade> katco,_excellent, so long as it really is
<menn0> waigani:__the steps for_alpha3 have the machine and instancedata upgrade
<fwereade> katco, it's_your job to tell me when_I'm being crazy
<fwereade>_katco,_everyone_else's too ofc
<katco> fwereade:_do i constrain my comments to_professional work?
<menn0> waigani: which means the_steps for alpha1 and alpha2 have trouble_because they sometimes need to be_able to look up machines
<menn0>_waigani: because_the running software is actually_alpha3
<katco> fwereade: ;)
<menn0>_waigani: the_steps shouldn't be_split out by alpha version
<fwereade> katco,_I'm grinning broadly_but not yet able to formulate_a_coherent response
<waigani> menn0:_got_it
<menn0>_waigani: I'm_fixing now.
<menn0> waigani:_alpha3_is being_held_up until this is sorted (should_be_easy though)
<katco> fwereade: haha ok good the_joke made it across_OK._that pause is always_nerve wracking :p
<waigani> menn0: I've_hit a really interesting bug, in_the process_of hunting_it down. A test failed once I merged the machines branch_with the sequences branch. I'll touch_base with you on_it later
<menn0>_waigani:_ok cool
<perrito666> ok_EOD,_have a_nice one people
<menn0> wallyworld_: if we have_upgrade steps_defined for 1.21 (final) they currently_won't run when an_upgrade_to a 1.21 alpha or beta