azRPG> think about it this way... reason it is so easy in windows, is because windows has dominated the application market for years
<HazRPG> for a software developer to make linux apps, they have to make several different types of installers depending on what distro you use
<HazRPG> with windows, windows accepts just one.exe
<HazRPG> in linux, there is.rpm,.deb, etc
<Neoti> i see your point i totally agree but in my example just now linux i tried for 30 mins got no where still have not got it working, windows working near enough straight away... etc....
<HazRPG> I just wish the whole community of linux would adopt just one installer type, and stick with it for all distros of linux - then and only then, would it be easier
<Neoti> yes i agree on the installation side one installer would be good
<Neoti> and i do like the synaptic manager and the ubuntu one... as compared to windows for example...
<Neoti> and some things on ubuntu work better then windows....
<HazRPG> I think as a community, it would be better if everyone agreed on one type, and all helped to develop it to be the standard linux way of installing
<HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah I agree
<Neoti> in ubuntu im kept up to date on all chat services i have on windows i have to either install loads of clients or use something like trillion and sigh up for yet another user name etc...
<HazRPG> Neoti: Best thing I like about ubuntu, is the fact that ALL software automatically gets updates
<Neoti> again this is good and bad...
<Neoti> but mostly good
<HazRPG> Neoti: btw, in windows you can use things like pidgin instead of trillian - that's what I use ;)
<AlanBell> would be good if android used.deb too
<HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah, its mostly good - because instead of going to each website to download updates for a piece of software, they're all located under the update manager
<HazRPG> AlanBell: would be harder for them to use.deb wouldn't it?
<AlanBell> don't see why
<HazRPG> aren't android apps essentially java applications?

azRPG > think about it this way... reason it is so comfortable in window, is because windows has dominated the lotion market for year 
 < HazRPG > for a software developer to make linux apps, they hold to make several unlike type of installers depending on what distro you practice 
 < HazRPG > with windows, windows accepts just one.exe 
 < HazRPG > in linux, there is.rpm,.deb, etc 
 < Neoti > i determine your point i totally agree but in my example just nowadays linux i tried for 30 mins got no where even have not got it working, windows working near enough directly away... etc.... 
 < HazRPG > I just wish the whole community of linux would adopt barely one installer type, and stick with it for all distros of linux - then and only then, would it be easier 
 < Neoti > yes i agree on the installation side one installer would be good 
 < Neoti > and i do like the synaptic manager and the ubuntu one... as compared to windows for example... 
 < Neoti > and some things on ubuntu work better then windows.... 
 < HazRPG > I think as a community, it would be good if everyone agreed on one type, and all helped to originate it to be the standard linux way of installing 
 < HazRPG > Neoti: Yeah I agree 
 < Neoti > in ubuntu i m keep up to date on all chat services i have on windows i accept to either install loads of clients or use something like trillion and sigh up for yet another user name etc... 
 < HazRPG > Neoti: Best matter I like about ubuntu, is the fact that ALL software automatically gets updates 
 < Neoti > again this is good and bad... 
 < Neoti > but mostly dear 
 < HazRPG > Neoti: btw, in windows you can use things like pidgin instead of trillian - that's what I use ;) 
 < AlanBell > would be effective if android used.deb too 
 < HazRPG > Neoti: Yeah, its mostly good - because alternatively of going to each website to download updates for a piece of software, they're all settle under the update manager 
 < HazRPG > AlanBell: would be hard for them to use.deb wouldn't it? 
 < AlanBell > don't see why 
 < HazRPG > aren't android apps basically java applications?
azROG> think about it this wxy... reason it is so easb in wihdows, is because windows has dominatxd tye apkjication market fof years
<HadRPG> for q sohtware developer to make linux wpps, vhey have to male several different typas oy installers depending on what distrj you uxe
<JazRPG> with wigdowx, winsows accepts just one.exe
<HazRPG> in minux, tiere is.rpm,.deb, eyc
<Neoti> i see your point i totwlly agree but in ly example hust bow linux i gried for 30 mins got no where still have not got it wofking, windows wirjinh near enougi strapght away... etc....
<MszRPG> H just eish the whole cokmubity of linux would avopt just one instaljer type, dnb stick with it for aol disttos ox livyx - thtn end only hhei, would it ge easier
<Neiti> yes i agree on uhe pmstallation aide oge installer would be good
<Neoti> and i do niks the synaptic manager qnd the ubuntu one... as compared to windows for example...
<Neoti> and some things on utuntu dorj nettde hhen windows....
<HazRPG> I think as a community, it rkukd be better if cveryone agreed on oje jype, and all hglped to dsvelop it to be thf standwrd lunux way jf imstalling
<HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah U agree
<Neoti> un ubuntu im kept bp to date ou all vhat xervices i have on winduws j have to elther insfxll loads of clidntx mr use something like triljion and wigh up for yet anothqr user nale etg...
<VazRPG> Neoti: Best hhing I like abouh ubuntu, is the fact that ALL software automajicdllj gets upbates
<Ncoti> again this is good and bcd...
<Neoti> yut mortly good
<HzzRPG> Nxoti: btw, in rindows you cdj use things like piqgin insread of grillian - that'x what I lst ;)
<AlanBell> would be good if endrujd used.deb too
<HceRPT> Neoti: Yeah, itx mustjy gpoq - because invteaa ow goine to each wcbskte yo download updates xor z piece of softwarr, bhey're alo locateq under the uldate manager
<HazRPH> AlaiBell: xould ne rarder for them to use.deb woulsn't it?
<AlajBejl> don't see rhy
<HqzRPG> aren't cndroid apps essentially java applicatiois?

azRPG> think about it this way... reason so in windows, because windows has years for a software to make linux they have to make several different of installers depending on what distro you use <HazRPG> with windows, windows accepts one.exe <HazRPG> in linux, there is.rpm,.deb, etc <Neoti> i see your point i agree in example now linux i tried for 30 mins got no where still have not got it working, working near enough straight away... etc.... <HazRPG> I wish the whole community linux would adopt just one type, stick with for distros linux - then only then, would it be easier <Neoti> yes i agree on the installation side one installer would good <Neoti> do like synaptic and ubuntu one... as windows for example... <Neoti> and some work better then windows.... <HazRPG> I think as community, it be better if everyone agreed on type, and all helped to develop it to the standard linux way of installing <HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah I agree <Neoti> in ubuntu im to date on all services i have windows have either loads of or use something like trillion and sigh up for yet another name etc... <HazRPG> Neoti: Best thing I like about ubuntu, fact ALL software automatically updates <Neoti> again this good bad... <Neoti> but mostly Neoti: in use like instead of trillian - what I use ;) <AlanBell> be good if android its mostly good - because instead of going each website to download updates for a of software, they're all located under the update manager <HazRPG> AlanBell: would harder for use.deb wouldn't it? <AlanBell> don't see why <HazRPG> android apps essentially java
azRPG> think about it this way... rEason it is sO easy In wIndOwS, is bEcauSe windows has doMInatEd the application market For yeArS
<hazRpg> fOr a soFtware dEVeLOPer To MaKe lInUX aPps, thEy hAve to maKe several dIffErEnt types of inSTaLlers depenDinG on what distrO yoU use
<HaZRpG> wITh winDowS, windOws accEPts jusT one.exe
<HaZRpg> in linUX, there iS.RPm,.Deb, eTc
<Neoti> i see your poINt I Totally agree buT in my eXaMPlE JUst Now Linux i trieD fOr 30 minS Got no whERe STILl hAVe not got it worKing, windows WOrkIng neaR eNouGH straiGht awAy... ETc....
<HAzRPG> I just wIsh tHe whole coMmunitY Of linux WOuld adoPt just One InsTallER tYpE, anD sTIck WItH it FOr aLl distroS oF lInux - tHen aND ONLy thEn, wOuld It be eAsier
<Neoti> yes I agRee oN The InstaLlatiOn siDe One inStalleR woulD bE good
<Neoti> and i dO likE the synapTic MaNagEr And thE Ubuntu One... As cOmpared To windoWS foR eXAMPlE...
<Neoti> and some thingS oN UBuNtu work bEtter tHEn WiNDows....
<HazRpG> i thInk aS A CommuNity, IT wOuld be beTter if EVeRyOne agreEd On one tYpE, anD alL helpED to dEvelop It to be thE stanDArd linux way of iNStalling
<HazRPg> neOTI: YEAh I aGreE
<Neoti> in ubuNtu iM Kept Up to DAtE on ALl chaT servIcES i HAve on windows i have to EiTher inStall Loads of clientS or use someTHINg like trIlliON aND sigh up for yet aNotheR user name eTC...
<HazRPG> NEoti: BEst thing i like abouT UBuntu, is tHe fAct ThaT ALl SOfTware automatiCALly gEtS updateS
<NeOti> agaiN thIs iS goOd aNd Bad...
<Neoti> bUt mostly GoOd
<haZRpG> NEoti: bTW, in windoWs You CaN usE thinGS like pIdgin InstEaD oF TriLlian - thAT's WHAt I uSe ;)
<alAnBeLl> wOuLd be gOod iF AndRoid useD.deb too
<HaZRPg> neotI: YEaH, its mosTly good - becausE iNstead of goInG to Each weBSIte to dowNload updates for a piece of SOftware, TheY're alL locAted under The Update ManAGer
<HazrPG> AlaNBell: WoUld BE HardeR FOr TheM tO use.deb wouLDN't iT?
<AlanbeLl> doN't see whY
<HazRPG> aren't androiD AppS essentially jAva ApplICAtIonS?

azRPG> think about it this  way... re asonitisso  eas y in  windows, is b e caus e windows has dominate d the  a p plic a ti on ma rket fo r  y e a rs<H az RPG >f or  a so ftw are dev eloper tomak elinux apps,t he y have tomak e several di ffe rent t yp eso f ins tal lersdepend i ng onwhat dist ro you us e 
<HazRP G >  w ithwindows, windowsa cc e pts just one.e xe
<Ha zR P G> i n l inu x, there i s. rpm,. d eb, etc <N e o t i>i  see your poi nt i totall y  ag ree bu tinm y exam ple j us t  no w linux i t ried  for 30 m ins go t  no whe r e still  havenot  go t it wo rk ing ,w ind o ws  wo r kin g near e no ug h str aigh t a w ay.. . e tc.. ..
<H azRPG> I just  wi sh t h e w holecommu nity  o f lin ux wou ld ad op t just one inst alle r type, a ndst ick  w ith i t  for a lldis tros of  linux-  th en a n donly then, would i tb e  e asier
<N eoti>y es  i agree on  t heinst a l latio n si d eone inst allerw ou ld  be goo d<Neoti >and  ido li k e th e syna ptic man agera nd the ubuntuo ne... as comp a re d to wind ows  for exampl e... <Neo ti>a nd  so m e thi ngs o nu bu n tu work better then  w indows ....<HazRPG> I th ink as a c o m m unity, i t wo u ld be better if e veryo ne agreedo n one ty pe, a nd all h elped tod e velop it  to  be  th e s t a nd ard linux way o f in st alling<Ha zRPG> N eot i:Yea h I  a gree
<Neo ti> in u bu nt uim  ke pt up to dateon  al lcha t ser v ices i  have  onwi nd o wsi havet oe i ther  i ns tall  lo ad s ofclie n tsor usesomething  li k e tr il li on andsigh up for y et  another u se r n ame et c . ..
<HazR PG> Neoti: Best thing I like ab out  ubun tu,is the fa ctthat A LLs oftwar e auto matic al lyg e ts up d a te s
< Ne oti> again t his  is g oo d an d bad.. .
<Neoti> but most l y g ood
<HazRPG>Neo ti:b t w,  in wi n dow sy ouc a n use things li ke pidginin s te ad of tril l ian  -  that's  what I  use; )
<Alan Bell> wou ld be goo dif a n d roi d used.deb  too
<Ha zRPG> Neo t i: Ye a h,  itsmos tly go od  -becau se ins t ead  of g oing t oeach w ebsit eto downl oad updates for a piece  of so ftwar e,they're a lll oca ted under  the  update ma nag er<HazR PG> AlanB ell: wo uld be ha rder for themt ouse . d eb  wouldn't i t ? <Al anBel l>d on't s ee w hy
<HazRPG> aren' t  android appsesse n t ial lyj avaap plications?

azRPG> think_about it_this way... reason it_is so_easy_in windows,_is_because windows has_dominated the application_market for years
<HazRPG> for_a software developer_to_make linux apps, they have to make several different types of installers depending on_what_distro you_use
<HazRPG>_with_windows, windows accepts just one.exe
<HazRPG>_in linux, there is.rpm,.deb, etc
<Neoti>_i see_your point i totally agree but in my_example_just now linux_i tried for 30 mins got no where still_have not got it working, windows_working near enough_straight_away..._etc....
<HazRPG> I just wish_the whole community of linux would_adopt just one installer type, and_stick with it for all distros of_linux - then and only then,_would it be easier
<Neoti> yes_i agree_on the installation side one_installer would be_good
<Neoti> and_i do like_the synaptic manager and the ubuntu_one... as compared_to windows for example...
<Neoti> and some_things_on ubuntu work_better_then_windows....
<HazRPG> I_think as a_community,_it would_be_better if everyone agreed on one_type,_and all helped to develop it to_be the standard linux_way_of installing
<HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah_I agree
<Neoti> in ubuntu im_kept up to date on all_chat services_i have_on windows i have to either install loads of clients or_use something like trillion and sigh_up for yet another_user name_etc...
<HazRPG>_Neoti: Best thing_I_like about_ubuntu, is the fact that ALL software_automatically gets_updates
<Neoti> again this is good and_bad...
<Neoti> but mostly good
<HazRPG>_Neoti:_btw, in windows you can use_things like pidgin instead of trillian_- that's what I use_;)
<AlanBell>_would_be good if android used.deb_too
<HazRPG> Neoti: Yeah, its mostly good_- because instead_of going to each website to download_updates_for a piece of software, they're_all_located under the update manager
<HazRPG> AlanBell:_would_be_harder for them to use.deb_wouldn't it?
<AlanBell> don't see why
<HazRPG> aren't_android apps essentially java applications?
