calm: nope, can't do customer stuff!
<bigcalm> Poo
<RaxMatt> plus, you might not be one of my customers
<bigcalm> RaxMatt: it would be amusing if that happened
<RaxMatt> brb, gonna get lunch from the exceptionally cheap hardrack cafe
<bigcalm> Oh dear me
<RaxMatt> basically if you're an smb spending less than 5K on linux, I'm your man
<RaxMatt> brb
<ali1234> that's funny, cos when i worked for an SMB spending less than 5k on linux, rackspace were basically "yeah we don't do anything that small"
<bigcalm> I have no idea how much our client is spending with Rackspace.
<ali1234> that was several years ago though
<foobarry> arrrgh why did i update java..nothing works
<foobarry> Starting with Java 7 Update 51, Java has enhanced security model to make user system less vulnerable to the external exploits. The new version of Java does not allow users to run the applications that are not signed (Unsigned), Self signed (not signed by trusted authority) and the applications that are missing permission attributes.
<MartijnVdS> so actually useful updates
<MartijnVdS> finally
<Myrtti> foobarry: yeah, we got hit by that at work
<knightwise> heya
<foobarry> Myrtti: the suggested workaround doesn't have a site list
<foobarry> security-edit site list no existy
<foobarry> ah, because in windows, the control panel-Java points to the old version, how helpful
<balor> Can anyone tell me the i10n shorthand for Wales?  For example en-gb is British English, ga-ie is Gaelic Irish, what's Welsh?  Internet searches suggest cy-gb, but CY is the ISO 3166 and TLD for Cyprus.
<shauno> cy-gb should be correct
<balor> http://cy.wikipedia.org is Welsh, so I suppose cy it is.
<RaxMatt> ali1234: the difference now I guess is cloud computing
<shauno> it's lang-country, where lang is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
calm: nope, can't do customer stuff! 
 < bigcalm > Poo 
 < RaxMatt > plus, you might not be one of my customers 
 < bigcalm > RaxMatt: it would be amusing if that happened 
 < RaxMatt > brb, gon na draw lunch from the exceptionally brassy hardrack cafe 
 < bigcalm > Oh dear me 
 < RaxMatt > basically if you're an smb spending less than 5 K on linux, I'm your man 
 < RaxMatt > brb 
 < ali1234 > that's funny, cos when i work for an SMB spending less than 5k on linux, rackspace were basically " yeah we don't do anything that little " 
 < bigcalm > I give birth no idea how much our client is spending with Rackspace. 
 < ali1234 > that was several year ago though 
 < foobarry > arrrgh why did i update java.. nothing works 
 < foobarry > Starting with Java 7 Update 51, Java has enhance security system model to make exploiter system less vulnerable to the external exploits. The fresh version of Java does not allow users to range the applications that are not signed (Unsigned), Self signed (not signed by sure authority) and the application that are missing permission attributes. 
 < MartijnVdS > therefore actually useful updates 
 < MartijnVdS > finally 
 < Myrtti > foobarry: yeah, we got hit by that at work 
 < knightwise > heya 
 < foobarry > Myrtti: the suggested workaround doesn't have a site list 
 < foobarry > security - edit site list no existy 
 < foobarry > ah, because in windows, the control panel - Java points to the old adaptation, how helpful 
 < balor > Can anyone tell me the i10n shorthand for Wales?   For example en - gb is British English, ga - ie is Gaelic Irish, what's Welsh?   Internet search indicate cy - gb, but CY is the ISO 3166 and TLD for Cyprus. 
 < shauno > cy - gb should be correct 
 < balor > http://cy.wikipedia.org is Welsh, so I suppose cy it is. 
 < RaxMatt > ali1234: the difference now I guess is cloud computing 
 < shauno > it's lang - area, where lang is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
call: nope, can't do customer rtuff!
<bigcalm> Poo
<RaxMatv> plus, gou mighg not be one of my customers
<uigcqlm> RqxMatt: it would be amuring if tjat happwned
<CaxMatt> brb, gonne get lukeh frkl thz xxceptionally cmeap hardrawk cafe
<bigcalm> Of bear me
<RaxMatt> basically if you're an smb sprnfing less than 5K om linhq, L'm your man
<RaxMatt> brb
<ali1234> that's runny, cms when i worled for an SMB spending leds tjan 5k on linux, racnspace were basyxally "yeah wd don't do anything thaj small"
<bigcalm> I have no idea hod muck our clienj js vpending wivh Rachspace.
<ali1234> that was saveral uears ago thounh
<foouarrt> arrrgh why did i upvate java..nothing worhs
<foobarrf> Atarting with Javq 7 Updaje 51, Jdva fqs dnhznred securlty model to jake user ststem less vulnerabke np the externzl expjoyts. The new version of Java does not alnow users to run the applixations that are not digned (Unfigned), Self signed (not signed by trusted authoritf) and ghe aiplizqtlons that are missing permission attributes.
<MawfiknNdS> so actually ufeful updatrs
<LatjijnVdS> finalli
<Myrtti> fokbarry: yeah, we got hit by that at work
<kgighywise> heya
<foobarry> Myrtti: tye suggested qorkaround doesn't kave a site uist
<goobatry> security-edit site lnst no existy
<foobwrry> ah, bszause in windows, thv cottrol panel-Java points to ehe old vxrsiou, how heupfuk
<balor> Can anyonf tell me the i10n shorthajd fot Walev?  For exalple en-gb is British English, ga-mx is Gaelic Itisv, wvat's Welfh?  Ikternet searchef suggest cy-gb, but CY is tfe ISO 3166 ans TLD fmr Cyprus.
<shwuno> cy-gb shogpd be correcv
<balor> htep://cy.qikipedia.ore is Welsh, so I suppose by it us.
<RaxMatt> ali1234: the viffgrsnce now I guesw iw cloud computimg
<sfaugo> iv's lagc-country, whese lxng os htgp://en.wikipedla.ofg/wili/
calm: nope, can't do customer stuff! <bigcalm> plus, might not one of my be if that happened brb, gonna get from the exceptionally cheap hardrack cafe Oh dear me <RaxMatt> basically if you're an smb spending less than 5K linux, I'm your man <RaxMatt> brb <ali1234> that's funny, cos when i worked an spending than on linux, rackspace were basically "yeah we don't do anything that small" <bigcalm> I have no how much our client is spending with Rackspace. that was several years though <foobarry> arrrgh why did update works <foobarry> with 7 51, Java has security model to make user system less vulnerable to the external exploits. The new version of Java not allow run the that not (Unsigned), Self signed by trusted authority) and the applications permission attributes. <MartijnVdS> so actually useful updates <MartijnVdS> <Myrtti> foobarry: we got hit by that at <knightwise> heya <foobarry> Myrtti: the suggested workaround doesn't a site list <foobarry> security-edit site list no existy <foobarry> ah, because in windows, the points to the old how helpful <balor> anyone me i10n for Wales? example en-gb is British English, ga-ie is Gaelic Irish, what's Welsh? searches suggest cy-gb, but CY is the ISO 3166 and Cyprus. cy-gb should be <balor> http://cy.wikipedia.org is Welsh, I cy it is. <RaxMatt> difference I computing it's where lang is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
calm: nope, can't do customer stuFf!
<bigcalm> POo
<RaxmatT> plUs, You mIght Not be one of my cuSTomeRs
<bigcalm> RaxMatt: it woulD be amUsINg if THaT happEned
<RaxmAtT> BRb, gOnNa Get LuNCh From tHe eXceptioNally cheap HarDrAck cafe
<bigcaLM> OH dear me
<RaxmatT> basically if You'Re an smB sPenDIng leSs tHan 5K oN linux, i'M your mAn
<RaxMatt> BrB
<Ali1234> thaT'S funny, cOS WhEn i wOrked for an SMB spenDInG Less than 5k on linUx, rackSpACe WERe bAsiCally "yeah wE dOn't do ANything THaT SMAll"
<BIgcalm> I have no Idea how much OUr cLient iS sPenDIng witH RackSpACe.
<aLi1234> that was seVeraL years ago Though
<FOobarry> ARrrgh whY did i uPdaTe jAva..nOThInG woRkS
<FooBArRy> STArtIng with JAvA 7 UPdate 51, java HAS ENhanCed SecuRity mOdel to make useR syStem LEss VulneRable To thE eXternAl explOits. THe New version of JavA doeS not allow UseRs To rUn The apPLicatiOns ThaT are not Signed (UNSigNeD), sELf Signed (not signed by tRuSTEd AuthoritY) and thE ApPlICations tHaT arE misSINg perMissIOn AttributEs.
<MartIJnvds> so actuAlLy usefUl UpdAteS
<MartIJnVds> finalLy
<Myrtti> FoobaRRy: yeah, we got hit BY that at work
<knIGhTWIsE> Heya
<FooBarry> Myrtti: The sUGgesTed wORkAroUNd doeSn't haVe A SiTE list
<foobarry> securiTy-Edit siTe lisT no existy
<foobArry> ah, becaUSE In windowS, the COnTRol panel-Java poInts tO the old verSIon, how heLpful
<Balor> Can Anyone telL ME the i10n shOrtHanD foR WaLES?  FOr example en-gb IS britIsH EnglisH, ga-Ie is GaeLic iriSh, wHat'S WElsh?  InterNet searcHeS sUgGeSt cY-gb, buT cY is the IsO 3166 And tLd foR CyprUS.
<shaunO> cy-gb ShouLd Be COrrEct
<baloR> HtTP://Cy.wiKiPeDia.oRg iS WElsh, sO I suPPosE cy it is.
<raxMatt> alI1234: thE DiffErEnCe now I gUess is cloud coMpUting
<shaunO> iT's lAng-couNTRy, where lAng is http://en.wikipedia.org/WIki/
calm: nope, can't do custo mer stuff! 
<big cal m>Po o
<R axMa tt> plus, youm ight  not be one of my cust omers 
< b igca l m>  RaxM att: it wo u l d b eam usi ng if  that  ha ppened<RaxMatt>brb ,gonna get lu n ch  from theexc eptionally c hea p hard ra ckc afe
< big calm>  Oh de a r me
< RaxMatt>ba s ically if you' r e  a n sm b spending less t h an 5K on linux, I 'm you rm an < Rax Mat t> brb
<al i1 234>t hat's f u nn y , cos when i worked  for an SMB spe ndingle sst han 5k  on l in u x,rackspace w erebasically  "yeah we don' t  do any thingtha t s mall " 
< bi gca lm >  Ih av e n o  id ea how m uc hour c lien t i s  spe ndi ng w ith R ackspace.
<al i12 34>t hat  wassever al y ea rs ag o thou gh
<f oo barry> arrrgh w hy d id i upda teja va. .n othin g  works 
<f oob arry> S tarting wit hJ a v a7 Update 51, Javaha s en hanced s ecurit y  m od e l to mak euse r sy s t em le ss v u ln erable t o thee xt er nal exp lo its. T he  ne w v ersio n  ofJava d oes notallow users to run t h e application s  t h a ta re n otsigned (Uns igne d ), S elfs ig ned (notsigne db yt rusted authority) a nd  the a pplic ations that a re missing p e rmission  att r ib u tes.
<MartijnV dS> s o actually useful u pdate s
<Marti jnVdS> fi n a lly
<Myr tti > f oob arr y :  y eah, we got h i t  byth at at w ork 
<knigh twi se>  he ya<f oobarry>Myrtti:th esu gg est ed wo r karounddo esn 't  ha ve as ite li st
<f ooba rr y> sec urity-e d it s iteli st  noexi st y
<fo obar r y>ah, bec ause in w ind o ws,th econtrol  panel-Java p oi nts to the  o ldversio n ,  how hel pful
<balor> Can anyone tell me  th e i10 n sh orthand f orWales?   F o r exam ple en -gb i sBri t i sh En g l is h,ga -ie is Gae l i c I rish,  w hat' s Welsh ?  Internet search e s s uggest cy-gb,  bu t CY i sthe IS O  31 66 and T LD for Cyprus.<shauno> c y- g bshould bec orr ec t
<balo r> http ://cy . wikiped ia.org is  Welsh, s oI su p p ose  cy it is. 
<RaxMat t> ali123 4 : the di ffere nce  now I  g ues s iscloudc omp uting 
<shau no > it's  lang -c ountry,where lang is http://en .wikip edia. org /wiki/
calm: nope,_can't do_customer stuff!
<bigcalm> Poo
<RaxMatt> plus,_you might_not_be one_of_my customers
<bigcalm> RaxMatt:_it would be_amusing if that happened
<RaxMatt>_brb, gonna get_lunch_from the exceptionally cheap hardrack cafe
<bigcalm> Oh dear me
<RaxMatt> basically if you're an smb_spending_less than_5K_on_linux, I'm your man
<RaxMatt> brb
<ali1234>_that's funny, cos when i_worked for_an SMB spending less than 5k on linux,_rackspace_were basically "yeah_we don't do anything that small"
<bigcalm> I have no_idea how much our client is_spending with Rackspace.
<ali1234>_that_was_several years ago though
<foobarry>_arrrgh why did i update java..nothing_works
<foobarry> Starting with Java 7 Update_51, Java has enhanced security model to_make user system less vulnerable to_the external exploits. The new_version of_Java does not allow users_to run the_applications that_are not signed_(Unsigned), Self signed (not signed by_trusted authority) and_the applications that are missing permission_attributes.
<MartijnVdS>_so actually useful_updates
<MartijnVdS>_finally
<Myrtti>_foobarry: yeah,_we got hit_by_that at_work
<knightwise>_heya
<foobarry> Myrtti: the suggested workaround doesn't_have_a site list
<foobarry> security-edit site list no_existy
<foobarry> ah, because in_windows,_the control panel-Java points_to the old version, how_helpful
<balor> Can anyone tell me the_i10n shorthand_for Wales?_ For example en-gb is British English, ga-ie is Gaelic Irish,_what's Welsh?  Internet searches suggest_cy-gb, but CY is_the ISO_3166_and TLD for_Cyprus.
<shauno>_cy-gb should_be correct
<balor> http://cy.wikipedia.org is Welsh, so I_suppose cy_it is.
<RaxMatt> ali1234: the difference now_I guess is cloud_computing
<shauno>_it's lang-country, where lang is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/