ijnVdS> bigcalm: dumb switch or smart
<bigcalm> MartijnVdS: the one with wifi, so smart
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: then maybe
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm: but if it's firewalled so it can't talk to the outside AND nothing from the outside can talk to it.. how is it going to talk to them?
<bigcalm>...
<bigcalm> I want to buy this as it'll mean that I don't need an extra mains socket in use
<bigcalm> I like things to be neat
<bigcalm> popey: or was is Â£70. One of those two numbers anyway :)
<DJones> bigcalm: Has your laptop arrived yet?
<DJones> Missed the last 48 hours on IRC due to a funeral
<bigcalm> DJones: sorry man :(
<bigcalm> DJones: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/426375609325858816/photo/1
<bigcalm> DJones: very nice so far. Had a problem with 14.04 where the laptop would power back on after being told to shut down. But that issue appears to have gone away after trying the upstream kernel and then going back to the ubuntu one - most odd
<bigcalm> DJones: the keys will take some getting used to. They remind me of the keys on a public internet phone
<bigcalm> DJones: the mouse pad is annoying as the left and right mouse buttons are also track pad
<ali1234> MartijnVdS: what they do is intercept the package after it leaves the seller and before it gets to you. they put in a small circuit board which is about 1cmx1cm, and that contains a radio that copies all ethernet packets. they can then monitor you from up to 8 miles away.
<bigcalm> DJones: the touch screen is just a gimmick (to me) as Ubuntu isn't really set up for touch yet
<DJones> bigcalm: Interesting, at least it will install Ubuntu without issues from the sound of things
<MartijnVdS> ali1234: ah wait that one. Just open the case yourself first :)
<DJones> bigcalm: But looks nice

ijnVdS > bigcalm: dumb switch or smart 
 < bigcalm > MartijnVdS: the one with wifi, therefore fresh 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: then maybe 
 < MartijnVdS > bigcalm: but if it's firewalled so it can't talk to the outside AND nothing from the outside can talk to it.. how is it go to talk to them? 
 < bigcalm >... 
 < bigcalm > I want to bribe this as it'll mean that I don't need an extra main socket in use 
 < bigcalm > I like thing to be neat 
 < bigcalm > popey: or was is Â£70. One of those two numbers anyhow :) 
 < DJones > bigcalm: Has your laptop arrive yet? 
 < DJones > Missed the last 48 hours on IRC due to a funeral 
 < bigcalm > DJones: sorry serviceman :( 
 < bigcalm > DJones: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/426375609325858816/photo/1 
 < bigcalm > DJones: very nice so far. Had a trouble with 14.04 where the laptop would power back on after being told to close down. But that issue look to have gone away after trying the upstream kernel and then going back to the ubuntu one - most curious 
 < bigcalm > DJones: the keys will take some getting used to. They remind me of the keys on a public internet phone 
 < bigcalm > DJones: the mouse pad is annoying as the left and right mouse buttons are also track pad 
 < ali1234 > MartijnVdS: what they do is intercept the package after it entrust the seller and before it gets to you. they put in a belittled circuit board which is about 1cmx1 cm, and that contains a radio receiver that copies all ethernet packet. they can then monitor you from up to 8 miles away. 
 < bigcalm > DJones: the contact screen is just a gimmick (to me) as Ubuntu isn't really set up for touch yet 
 < DJones > bigcalm: Interesting, at least it will install Ubuntu without issues from the sound of things 
 < MartijnVdS > ali1234: ah wait that one. Just unfold the case yourself foremost :) 
 < DJones > bigcalm: But look nice
ijnGdS> bigcalm: dumb switch ur smart
<bigcalm> MartijiVdS: ths one wigh wifi, so smart
<MartijnVdS> bmgcaom: thtu maybe
<MartijnVdS> biecalm: but if it's direxalled so it can'v talk to the kmtsidz END nothing frok the outshde can talk tm kt.. how is it going to talk to them?
<bigsalm>...
<bigvapm> I want to boy thps as jn'lo mean that I don't need an exfra maiis socket in usr
<bigcalm> I like things to he nfat
<bigcalm> popey: og was is Â£70. Obe os those two njmbers anyway :)
<DJones> bjgcalm: Has your laptop arrived het?
<DJpnes> Missee rhe nast 48 hours on IGC due to a fmmeral
<bhgcalm> CJones: sorry msn :(
<uigcqlm> DJones: https://twittxr.com/bigcalm/status/426375609325858816/phjto/1
<bigcalk> BJones: very nice so fqr. Had d prmbleo wigh 14.04 wiers the papvop would pkwer back ob after being told uo fyut down. But fhat ifste appears to have gone away after tryitg fhe upstream kernel and then going back to tje ubuntu one - most odd
<bigcalm> DJones: the keys will take smme gxtginy used ro. They remind me of the keys on a public intergst pmone
<bigcalm> DJoncs: the mouse pad ix wnmjying as the ueft aus dight mouse buttond are ajso teack pad
<aji1234> MsrtijnVdS: what they do is ibtercept the package after it lzaves the seuler and nefore it gets to you. tkey puf in a smalp circuit coard which is acoun 1cmf1cm, and ufat contains a raqio that ropiex all eghermet paskets. they can bven monitor you frlm up tm 8 miles aaay.
<bigcalm> DJones: the touch scrxxn is just a bikmibk (to me) cs Ubuktu isn't really set up for tooch yet
<DJjnes> cigcalm: Inneresting, at least ie will instaln Ubuntu withmut issuqs feom rhe souva of things
<MaryijnVdS> ali1234: ah wait that one. Just opek the dase yourself fnxsu :)
<EJones> bigcalm: Bug ljons nywe

ijnVdS> bigcalm: dumb switch or smart <bigcalm> one wifi, so <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: then it's so it can't to the outside nothing from the outside can talk it.. how is it going to talk to them? <bigcalm>... <bigcalm> I want buy this as it'll mean that I don't need an extra mains socket use I things be neat <bigcalm> popey: or was is Â£70. One of those two numbers anyway :) <DJones> Has your laptop arrived yet? <DJones> Missed the 48 hours on IRC to a funeral <bigcalm> DJones: man <bigcalm> DJones: <bigcalm> very so far. Had problem with 14.04 where the laptop would power back on after being told to shut down. But issue appears gone away trying upstream and then going the ubuntu one - most odd keys will take some getting used to. They me of keys on a public internet phone DJones: the mouse pad is annoying as the and right mouse buttons are also track pad <ali1234> MartijnVdS: what they do is intercept after it leaves the and before it to they in small circuit which is about 1cmx1cm, and that contains a radio that copies ethernet packets. they can then monitor you from up to away. DJones: the touch is just a gimmick me) Ubuntu isn't really set touch <DJones> least will Ubuntu without issues from sound of things <MartijnVdS> ali1234: wait that one. Just :) <DJones> bigcalm: But looks nice
ijnVdS> bigcalm: dumb switch or Smart
<bigcaLm> MarTijNVds: tHe onE witH wifi, so smart
<MaRTijnvdS> bigcalm: then maybe
<MarTijnVDS> BIgcaLM: bUt if iT's firewALlED So iT cAn'T taLk TO tHe outSidE AND notHing from thE ouTsIde can talk to IT.. hOw is it goinG to Talk to them?
<biGcaLm>...
<bigcAlM> I wANt to bUy tHis as It'll meAN that I Don't need aN eXTra maiNS socket IN UsE
<bigCalm> I like things to BE nEAt
<bigcalm> popey: Or was iS Â£70. oNe OF ThoSe tWo numbers aNyWay :)
<DJONes> bigcALm: hAS YouR Laptop arrived Yet?
<DJones> MiSSed The lasT 48 hOurS On IRC dUe to a FuNEraL
<bigcalm> DJoNes: sOrry man :(
<biGcalm> DjOnes: httPS://twitteR.com/biGcaLm/sTatuS/426375609325858816/PhOtO/1
<biGcALm> DjOnEs: vERy nIce so far. haD a ProblEm wiTH 14.04 WHEre tHe lAptoP woulD power back on aFteR beiNG toLd to sHut doWn. BuT tHat isSue appEars tO hAve gone away afteR tryIng the upsTreAm KerNeL and tHEn goinG baCk tO the ubuNtu one - mOSt oDd
<BIGCaLm> DJones: the keys wilL tAKE sOme gettiNg used TO. THeY Remind me Of The Keys ON A publIc inTErNet phone
<BigcalM> dJOnEs: the moUsE pad is AnNoyIng As the LEft aNd righT mouse buTtons ARe also track pad
<ALi1234> MartijnVdS: wHAt THEy DO is iNteRcept the pacKage AFter It leAVeS thE SelleR and bEfORe IT gets to you. they put in A sMall ciRcuit Board which is aBout 1cmx1cm, aND THat contaIns a RAdIO that copies all EtherNet packets. THey can thEn monItor you fRom up to 8 miLES away.
<bigCalM> DJOneS: thE TOuCh screen is jusT A GimmIcK (to me) as ubuNtu isn't ReaLly Set Up fOr Touch yet
<Djones> bigCaLm: inTeResTing, aT Least it wIlL inStAll ubuntU WithouT issuEs frOm ThE SouNd of thiNGs
<mARtijNVDS> Ali1234: aH waIt That oNe. JuST opEn the caSe yourselF fiRSt :)
<DJOnEs> Bigcalm: but looks nice

ijnVdS> bigcalm: dumb swit ch or smar t
<bi gca lm>  M arti jnVd S: the one wit h  wif i, so smart
<MartijnVd S> bi gc a lm:t he n may be
<Mar t ij n V dS>  b ig cal m: bu t ifit' s firew alled so i t c an 't talk to t h eoutside AN D n othing fromthe  outsi de  ca n  talk  to  it..  how i s  it go ing to ta lk to the m ?
<bigc a l m> ...<bigcalm> I wantt ob uy this as it' ll mea nt ha t I d on' t need anex tra m a ins soc k et i n  us e 
<bigcalm> Ilike things tobe nea t<bi g calm>popey :o r w as is Â£70.  One  of those  two n u mbers a n yway :) 
<DJon es>  bi gcal m :Ha s y ou r  la p to p a r riv ed yet?<D Jo nes>Miss e d t he l ast  48hours  on IRC due t o a  fun e ral 
<big calm>  DJo ne s: so rry ma n :(<b igcalm> DJones:  htt ps://twit ter .c om/ bi gcalm / status /42 637 5609325 858816/ p hot o/ 1 < bi gcalm> DJones: ver yn i ce  so far.  Had a pr ob l em with14 .04  whe r e  thelapt o pwould po wer ba c kon  afterbe ing to ld  to  sh ut do w n. B ut tha t issueappea r s to have gone away after tr y in g th e  ups tre am kernel a nd t h en g oing ba ckt o the  ubun tu on e  - most odd
<bigcal m>  DJone s: th e keys will t ake some g e t t ing used  to. Th e y remind me of  thekeys on ap ublic in terne t phone<bigcalm> D Jones: t hemou sepad i sannoying as t h e  lef tand rig htmouse b utt ons  ar e a ls o track p ad
<ali1 23 4>  M ar tij nVdS: what the ydois  in terce p t thepacka ge a ft er itleavest he s elle ran d be for eit ge ts t o  yo u. they  put in a  sm a ll c ir cu it boar d which is ab ou t 1cmx1cm,  a ndthat c o n tains aradio that copies all e t hernetpac kets.  the y can the n m onitor  yo u  fromup to8 mil es  aw a y .
<bi g c al m>DJ ones: thet o uch  scre en  isjust agimmick (to me) as Ubu ntu isn't rea lly  set u pfor to u chye t 
<D J o nes> bigcalm: I nteresting ,a tleast it w i llin stall U buntu w ithou t  issues  from the  sound of  t hing s <Ma rtijnVdS>ali1234:  ah waitt hat o n e.  Just  op en the  c ase  your self f i rst  :)
< DJones >bigcal m: Bu tlooks ni ce

ijnVdS> bigcalm:_dumb switch_or smart
<bigcalm> MartijnVdS: the_one with_wifi,_so smart
<MartijnVdS>_bigcalm:_then maybe
<MartijnVdS> bigcalm:_but if it's_firewalled so it can't_talk to the_outside_AND nothing from the outside can talk to it.. how is it going to_talk_to them?
<bigcalm>...
<bigcalm>_I_want_to buy this as it'll_mean that I don't need_an extra_mains socket in use
<bigcalm> I like things to_be_neat
<bigcalm> popey: or_was is Â£70. One of those two numbers anyway_:)
<DJones> bigcalm: Has your laptop arrived_yet?
<DJones> Missed the_last_48_hours on IRC due_to a funeral
<bigcalm> DJones: sorry man_:(
<bigcalm> DJones: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/426375609325858816/photo/1
<bigcalm> DJones: very nice_so far. Had a problem with 14.04_where the laptop would power back_on after being told to_shut down._But that issue appears to_have gone away_after trying_the upstream kernel_and then going back to the_ubuntu one -_most odd
<bigcalm> DJones: the keys will_take_some getting used_to._They_remind me_of the keys_on_a public_internet_phone
<bigcalm> DJones: the mouse pad is_annoying_as the left and right mouse buttons_are also track pad
<ali1234>_MartijnVdS:_what they do is_intercept the package after it_leaves the seller and before it_gets to_you. they_put in a small circuit board which is about 1cmx1cm, and_that contains a radio that copies_all ethernet packets. they_can then_monitor_you from up_to_8 miles_away.
<bigcalm> DJones: the touch screen is just_a gimmick_(to me) as Ubuntu isn't really_set up for touch_yet
<DJones>_bigcalm: Interesting, at least it will_install Ubuntu without issues from the_sound of things
<MartijnVdS> ali1234: ah_wait_that_one. Just open the case_yourself first :)
<DJones> bigcalm: But looks_nice
