isb, oh, sorry - omw
 * fwereade needs to stop early, will be back this evening to talk to NZ
<frobware> dooferlad, having just spoken with cherylj we should look at 1.24 first for #1510651
<mup> Bug #1510651: Agents are "lost" after terminating a state server in an HA env <bug-squad> <ensure-availability> <juju-core:Triaged by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651>
<dooferlad> frobware: thanks, spotted the bug update
<natefinch> wwitzel3: I know you're there, I can hear you typing
<natefinch> ericsnow: you around?
<ericsnow> natefinch: yep
<natefinch> ericsnow: the lxd remote config value - I presume that should be an IP address or domain name?
<ericsnow> natefinch: yep
<ericsnow> natefinch: I'll make that more clear
<cherylj> perrito666: got a sec?
<natefinch> ericsnow: I'm adding an isLocal() function to the environ, since we're checking that in a couple places
<ericsnow> natefinch: k
<natefinch> ericsnow: (the logic is simple, but I don't want remote() == "" getting tossed around the codebase everywhere
<ericsnow> natefinch: fine with me
<ericsnow> natefinch: method on environConfig?
<natefinch> ericsnow: on the environ. I don't want to have to know to look at the config to determine if it's local.  There's some law about not doing foo.bar.baz()... forget now what it's called.  Just expose it at the higher level.  The config itself doesn't need to know about local or not, I don't think.
<ericsnow> natefinch: you're doing foo.bar.<something> either way and the config is what identifies the remote as local or not
<mup> Bug #1507771 changed: Juju deploy fails when template container cannot
isb, oh, sorry - omw 
  * fwereade needs to stop early, will be back this evening to talk to NZ 
 < frobware > dooferlad, having barely speak with cherylj we should look at 1.24 first for # 1510651 
 < mup > Bug # 1510651: agent are " lost " after terminating a state of matter server in an HA env < bug - team > < ensure - availability > < juju - core: Triaged by dooferlad > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651 > 
 < dooferlad > frobware: thanks, spot the bug update 
 < natefinch > wwitzel3: I know you're there, I can listen you type 
 < natefinch > ericsnow: you around? 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: yep 
 < natefinch > ericsnow: the lxd remote config value - I presume that should be an IP address or domain name? 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: yep 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: I'll lay down that more clear 
 < cherylj > perrito666: got a sec? 
 < natefinch > ericsnow: I'm add an isLocal () function to the environ, since we're checking that in a couple places 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: k 
 < natefinch > ericsnow: (the logic is simple, but I don't desire remote () = = " " getting convulse around the codebase everywhere 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: fine with me 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: method on environConfig? 
 < natefinch > ericsnow: on the environ. I don't want to own to know to look at the config to determine if it's local.   There's some law about not doing foo.bar.baz ()... forget nowadays what it's called.   Just expose it at the higher level.   The config itself doesn't need to know about local or not, I don't think. 
 < ericsnow > natefinch: you're doing foo.bar.<something > either way and the config is what identify the remote as local or not 
 < mup > Bug # 1507771 transfer: Juju deploy fail when template container cannot
isb, oh, sorry - omw
 * fwereade needs to stop gaely, winl be gack thir evening to talk to NZ
<frobwere> eoofeelad, having just spokev with chvrylj we whouoe look at 1.24 first for #1510651
<mup> Nug #1510651: Cgxnts are "lost" anter termindting a state vefvzr in an HA env <bug-squad> <ensure-availwbility> <jkju-core:Triaged by cjofedlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651>
<dooferlas> frobwere: thanks, spotyed the bug update
<natefincj> wwltzel3: I know you're there, I cab hewe you typing
<vatefinch> trncsnow: you zround?
<ericsnow> natefinch: yep
<natdfinck> ericsnow: jkw ldg remote coifig vwlue - I presmke thad shoulc be an IP addvess mr eomain name?
<ericsnow> netefinch: yep
<ericsnow> natefincv: N'll make that more clwae
<cherilj> parrigi666: gut z xed?
<nateflnci> ericsnow: J'm adding ab isLocal() function uo eye environ, sihce we'we checking that in a couple places
<ericsnmw> hatefinch: k
<natefinch> erucsnow: (the logic is slmple, but I don't want remote() == "" getting tossed around the cmdebaad ercvywhdee
<fricsnow> natefinch: fine with me
<ericsnow> natefyhcn: kethod on envivonConfig?
<natefinch> egivfnow: on the evviron. I son't want to have ho know to liok at tht congig to determine if it's locql.  There's sjne law about not dling foo.bar.yaz()... fotget npw what it's called.  Jusc expoae it at thf higher mdvel.  The config itxenf doesn'u need to know abott local ir npt, I dov't tnink.
<erycsnow> natffincm: you're doing foo.bag.<somejhing> aither way and the config is what identifmxs the remote av lmcal or uot
<mup> Bug #1507771 changed: Juju deploy fcils wheu tempuate contapner cannmt
isb, oh, sorry - omw * fwereade stop will be this evening to having spoken with cherylj should look at first for #1510651 <mup> Bug #1510651: are "lost" after terminating a state server in an HA env <bug-squad> <ensure-availability> by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651> <dooferlad> frobware: thanks, spotted the bug update <natefinch> wwitzel3: I you're I hear typing <natefinch> ericsnow: you around? <ericsnow> natefinch: yep <natefinch> ericsnow: the lxd remote config value - presume that should be an IP address or name? <ericsnow> natefinch: yep natefinch: I'll make that more <cherylj> got a <natefinch> I'm an isLocal() function the environ, since we're checking that in a couple places <ericsnow> natefinch: k <natefinch> ericsnow: (the logic simple, but want remote() "" tossed the codebase everywhere fine with me <ericsnow> natefinch: method ericsnow: on the environ. I don't want to to know look at the config to determine it's local. There's some law about not doing forget now what it's called. Just expose it at the higher level. The config itself to know about local not, I don't <ericsnow> you're foo.bar.<something> way and config is what identifies the remote as local or not <mup> #1507771 changed: Juju deploy fails when template container cannot
isb, oh, sorry - omw
 * fwereade needS to stop earLy, wilL be BacK tHis eVeniNg to talk to NZ
<frOBwarE> dooferlad, having just spOken wItH CherYLj We shoUld look AT 1.24 fIRSt fOr #1510651
<MuP> BuG #1510651: AGEnTs are "LosT" after tErminating A stAtE server in an Ha EnV <bug-squad> <eNsuRe-availabiliTy> <jUju-corE:TRiaGEd by dOofErlad> <Https://lAUnchpaD.net/bugs/1510651>
<dOoFErlad> fRObware: tHANkS, spoTted the bug update
<nATeFInch> wwitzel3: I knOw you'rE tHErE, i Can HeaR you typing
<NaTefinCH> ericsnOW: yOU ARouND?
<ericsnow> nateFinch: yep
<natEFinCh> ericSnOw: tHE lxd reMote cOnFIg vAlue - I presumE thaT should be An IP adDRess or dOMain namE?
<ericsNow> NatEfinCH: yEp
<EriCsNOw> nATeFinCH: I'lL make thaT mOrE cleaR
<cheRYLJ> PerrIto666: Got a Sec?
<naTefinch> ericsnOw: I'M addINg aN isLoCal() fuNctiOn To the EnviroN, sincE wE're checking that In a cOuple placEs
<eRiCsnOw> NatefINch: k
<naTefIncH> ericsnOw: (the loGIc iS sIMPLe, But I don't want remote() == "" GeTTInG tossed aRound tHE cOdEBase everYwHerE
<eriCSNow> naTefiNCh: Fine with Me
<ericSNoW> nAtefincH: mEthod oN eNviRonconfiG?
<NateFinch> eRicsnow: oN the eNViron. I don't want TO have to know to LOoK AT tHE conFig To determine If it'S LocaL.  TheRE's SomE Law abOut noT dOInG Foo.bar.baz()... forget now wHaT it's caLled.  JUst expose it at The higher lEVEL.  The confIg itSElF Doesn't need to knOw aboUt local or nOT, I don't thInk.
<erIcsnow> naTefinch: yoU'RE doing foO.baR.<soMetHinG> EItHer way and the cONFig iS wHat idenTifIes the rEmoTe aS loCal Or Not
<mup> Bug #1507771 Changed: JUjU dEpLoY faIls whEN templatE cOntAiNer CannoT
isb, oh, sorry - omw
 * fw ereade nee ds to  st opea rly,  wil l be back this even ing to talk to NZ
<fro bware >d oofe r la d, ha ving ju s ts p oke nwi thch e ry lj we  sh ould lo ok at 1.24  fi rs t for #15106 5 1<mup> Bug#15 10651: Agent s a re "lo st " a f ter t erm inati ng a s t ate se rver in a nH A env< bug-squ a d ><ens ure-availability> <j u ju-core:Triage d by d oo f er l a d><ht tps://laun ch pad.n e t/bugs/ 1 51 0 6 5 1>< dooferlad> fr obware: tha n ks,  spott ed  th e  bug u pdate 
< n ate finch> wwit zel3 : I knowyou're there,I  can he ar you  ty pin g
<n a te fi nch >e ric s no w:y ouaround?<e ri csnow > na t e f i nch:  ye p
<n atefi nch> ericsnow : t he l x d r emote  conf ig v al ue -I pres ume t ha t should be anIP a ddress or  do ma inna me?
< e ricsno w>nat efinch:  yep
<e r ics no w > na tefinch: I'll make  t h a tmore cle ar
<ch e ry lj >  perrito 66 6:gota sec?<nat e fi nch> eri csnow: I' maddingan  isLoc al ()fun ction to t he env iron, si nce w e 're checking t h at in a coupl e  p l a ce s 
<er ics now> natefi nch: k
<n atef i nc h>e ricsn ow: ( th e  l o gic is simple, butIdon'twantremote() == " " gettingt o s sed arou nd t h ec odebase everyw here<ericsnow> natefinc h: fi ne withme
<erics n o w> natef inc h:met hod o nenvironConfig ? <nat ef inch> e ric snow: o n t heenv iro n.  I don'twant toha ve  t okno w tol ook at t he  co nf igto de t ermine  if i t'slo ca l . There's so m e  law  a bo ut n otdo ing f oo.b a r.b az()...  forget n oww hatit 's  called .  Just expos eit at thehi ghe r leve l .   The co nfig itself doesn't nee d  to kno w a boutloca l or not,  Idon'tthi n k.
<er icsnow > nat ef inc h :  you' r e  d oin gfoo.bar.<s o m eth ing>ei ther  way an d the config is wh a t i dentifies the  re mote a sloc a lo r n ot <mu p >  Bug #1507771 c hanged: Ju ju de ploy fails whe ntemplat e conta inerc annot
isb, oh,_sorry -_omw
 * fwereade needs_to stop_early,_will be_back_this evening to_talk to NZ
<frobware>_dooferlad, having just spoken_with cherylj we_should_look at 1.24 first for #1510651
<mup> Bug #1510651: Agents are "lost" after terminating a_state_server in_an_HA_env <bug-squad> <ensure-availability> <juju-core:Triaged by_dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651>
<dooferlad> frobware: thanks, spotted_the bug_update
<natefinch> wwitzel3: I know you're there, I can_hear_you typing
<natefinch> ericsnow:_you around?
<ericsnow> natefinch: yep
<natefinch> ericsnow: the lxd remote config_value - I presume that should_be an IP_address_or_domain name?
<ericsnow> natefinch: yep
<ericsnow>_natefinch: I'll make that more clear
<cherylj>_perrito666: got a sec?
<natefinch> ericsnow: I'm_adding an isLocal() function to the environ,_since we're checking that in a_couple places
<ericsnow> natefinch: k
<natefinch> ericsnow:_(the logic_is simple, but I don't_want remote() ==_"" getting_tossed around the_codebase everywhere
<ericsnow> natefinch: fine with me
<ericsnow>_natefinch: method on_environConfig?
<natefinch> ericsnow: on the environ. I_don't_want to have_to_know_to look_at the config_to_determine if_it's_local.  There's some law about_not_doing foo.bar.baz()... forget now what it's called._ Just expose it_at_the higher level. _The config itself doesn't need_to know about local or not,_I don't_think.
<ericsnow> natefinch:_you're doing foo.bar.<something> either way and the config is what identifies_the remote as local or not
<mup>_Bug #1507771 changed: Juju_deploy fails_when_template container cannot