 put noting in here about Wndows 10 hmm
<sebsebseb> two other channels though yes
<sebsebseb> anyway seems Desktop Linux will get some real compettion from it
<sebsebseb> and most users wil get it for free when upgraing from Windows 7 or 8 to it seems.
<sebsebseb> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/windows-10-microsoft-plan-to-win-users-back
<bashrc> ugh. it's closed source. How can anyone trust that?
<sebsebseb> bashrc: so is Apple or most of it, but yet the amount of users
<bashrc> code that you can't see is code that you can't trust
<sebsebseb> indeed, but most computer users don't really know about that
<davmor2> sebsebseb: no it won't Desktop linux has never been competition for windows in reality,  Chrome OS on the other hand is the closest thing that Microsoft have to real competition and that again is pretty closed too
<sebsebseb> well  and Android
<sebsebseb> then
<sebsebseb> that's competion to
<sebsebseb> davmor2: well  Desktop Linux was meant to replace Unix, it's just for  lots of people or usauly it can replace using WIndows to yeah
<sebsebseb> if that's what you meant
<popey> that doesn't mean they see it as competition
<davmor2> sebsebseb: no microsoft is trying to be competition to android on devices, MS already lost that battle and is playing catch up
<popey> in fact I had a marketing VP of Microsoft tell me "We have no competition"
<sebsebseb> popey: I think there was some old  thing from a few years back,  where  on Microsoft's competition list or well potential threats competion list, they actaully put Canonical as well
<bashrc> "convenient and powerful", but probably bugged
<sebsebseb> popey: yeah  Apple aim at a diffenrwdt market really, so even that, isn't really porper compeition to them
<davmor2> sebsebseb: no I mean that when you own 90% of the desktop market the
put noting in here about Wndows 10 hmm 
 < sebsebseb > two other channels though yes 
 < sebsebseb > anyhow seem Desktop Linux will get some real compettion from it 
 < sebsebseb > and most users wil receive it for free when upgraing from Windows 7 or 8 to it seems. 
 < sebsebseb > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/windows-10-microsoft-plan-to-win-users-back 
 < bashrc > ugh. it's shut source. How can anyone trust that? 
 < sebsebseb > bashrc: so is Apple or most of it, but so far the amount of users 
 < bashrc > code that you can't experience is code that you can't trust 
 < sebsebseb > indeed, but most computer exploiter don't in truth know about that 
 < davmor2 > sebsebseb: no it won't Desktop linux has never been competition for windows in reality,   Chrome OS on the other hired hand is the closest thing that Microsoft have to real rival and that again is pretty closed too 
 < sebsebseb > well   and Android 
 < sebsebseb > then 
 < sebsebseb > that's competion to 
 < sebsebseb > davmor2: well   Desktop Linux was meant to supplant Unix, it's just for   lots of people or usauly it can replace using WIndows to yeah 
 < sebsebseb > if that's what you mean 
 < popey > that doesn't mean they see it as competition 
 < davmor2 > sebsebseb: no microsoft is trying to be competition to android on devices, MS already lost that battle and is playing catch up 
 < popey > in fact I had a marketing VP of Microsoft tell me " We have no competition " 
 < sebsebseb > popey: I think there was some erstwhile   thing from a few years back,   where   on Microsoft's rival tilt or well likely threats competion list, they actaully put Canonical as well 
 < bashrc > " convenient and powerful ", but probably bugged 
 < sebsebseb > popey: yeah   Apple purpose at a diffenrwdt market really, so even that, isn't really porper compeition to them 
 < davmor2 > sebsebseb: no I mean that when you own 90% of the desktop marketplace the
 puh noting in here about Wkdows 10 hmm
<sebsebseb> two other channelr though yes
<sebsebseb> anyway swems Eesktop Linux will get some reap competrion drom it
<sebsebseb> akb mosf usexs wil get it fot free when gpgraing from Fivdlws 7 or 8 to it seems.
<sebsebseb> http://wrw.omgubinhu.co.uk/2015/01/windows-10-mycroxjft-pman-to-win-users-back
<bashrc> ugh. it's clksed solrce. How can anyome trust that?
<sebsebseb> basjrc: do is Apple or mosh of it, but yet rhe amount ow users
<bashrc> code thaj you can't see is code that you zan't crust
<sebsebwev> ijgeed, but mowt coiputer users don't redlly knpw about that
<dsvmmr2> websebseb: no it won't Vesktop linux has neder been wojpetition for wineoqs in reanity,  Chfomt OX kn the otier hand is the closesr thing that Microspfe have to real compeeieion and that again is pretty closed tom
<segsebseb> well  and Androud
<sebsebseb> then
<sebsehseb> that'f competion to
<sebsebseb> davmor2: well  Desktop Linuf was oeaub gi geplace Unix, it's just for  lots of people or taailj it can replace msing WIndows to yraj
<srfsebseb> if thxt's whcf gou meant
<popey> thah doesn'j mean they see it ss competition
<davmor2> sebsebweb: no microfift is trying to bz competitiou to amdroic on devices, MS already losf that battpe and is olaying catch up
<oopvy> it fact I had a marketing V[ of Micrisofc tell md "We have go competihion"
<sctsebseb> popey: I thlnk tkere fas some opd  thing from a few years back,  where  on Mivrmsoxt's compztitiok list or well [otential thrects compztion uist, they zctaullb put Canonisal as well
<bavjrc> "convenieit and porerfyl", byt probxcly bugged
<sebsrbseb> popvy: yeay  Apple aim at a viffgndwdt market reaoly, so even that, ixn't rewlpy pjsper compeithon go gnem
<daxmor2> sebsebwdb: np I mean that when ymu osn 90% of the desktop mwrket thg
put noting in here about Wndows 10 two channels though <sebsebseb> anyway seems real from it <sebsebseb> most users wil it for free when upgraing from 7 or 8 to it seems. <sebsebseb> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/windows-10-microsoft-plan-to-win-users-back <bashrc> ugh. it's closed source. can anyone trust that? <sebsebseb> bashrc: so is Apple or most of it, yet amount users code that you can't see is code that you can't trust <sebsebseb> indeed, but most computer don't really know about that <davmor2> sebsebseb: no won't Desktop linux has been competition for windows in Chrome on the hand the thing that Microsoft to real competition and that again is pretty closed too <sebsebseb> well and Android <sebsebseb> then <sebsebseb> competion to well Desktop was to Unix, it's just of people or usauly it can to yeah <sebsebseb> if that's what you meant that doesn't they see it as competition <davmor2> no microsoft is trying to be competition to on devices, MS already lost that battle and is playing catch up <popey> in fact a marketing VP of tell me "We no <sebsebseb> I there was old thing from a few years back, where on Microsoft's competition or well potential threats competion list, they actaully put Canonical <bashrc> and powerful", but bugged <sebsebseb> popey: yeah aim a diffenrwdt market really, that, really them sebsebseb: I mean that when own 90% of the desktop the
 put noting in here about WndowS 10 hmm
<sebsebSeb> twO otHer ChAnneLs thOugh yes
<sebsebsEB> anyWay seems Desktop Linux wiLl get SoME reaL CoMpettIon from IT
<sEBSebSeB> aNd mOsT UsErs wiL geT it for fRee when upgRaiNg From Windows 7 oR 8 To It seems.
<sebSebSeb> http://www.omGubUntu.co.Uk/2015/01/WinDOws-10-miCroSoft-pLan-to-wIN-users-Back
<bashrC> uGH. it's clOSed sourCE. hoW can Anyone trust that?
<seBSeBSeb> bashrc: so is APple or MoST oF IT, buT yeT the amount Of Users
<BAshrc> coDE tHAT You CAn't see is code tHat you can't tRUst
<SebsebSeB> inDEed, but Most cOmPUteR users don't rEallY know abouT that
<dAVmor2> sebSEbseb: no It won't desKtoP linUX hAs NevEr BEen COmPetITioN for windOwS iN realIty,  CHROME OS oN thE othEr hanD is the closest ThiNg thAT MiCrosoFt havE to rEaL compEtitioN and tHaT again is pretty cLoseD too
<sebseBseB> wEll  AnD AndrOId
<sebsEbsEb> tHen
<sebsEbseb> thAT's cOmPETIoN to
<sebsebseb> davmor2: WeLL  deSktop LinUx was mEAnT tO Replace UNiX, it'S jusT FOr  lotS of pEOpLe or usauLy it caN RePlAce usinG Windows To YeaH
<seBsebsEB> if tHat's whAt you meaNt
<popEY> that doesn't meaN They see it as coMPeTITiON
<davMor2> Sebsebseb: no MicrOSoft Is trYInG to BE compEtitiOn TO aNDroid on devices, MS alrEaDy lost That bAttle and is plaYing catch uP
<POPey> in facT I haD A mARketing VP of MicRosofT tell me "We hAVe no compEtitiOn"
<sebsebSeb> popey: I THInk there Was SomE olD  thING fRom a few years bACK,  wheRe  On MicroSofT's compeTitIon LisT or WeLl potentiAl threatS cOmPeTiOn lIst, thEY actaullY pUt CAnOniCal as WEll
<basHrc> "coNvenIeNt ANd pOwerful", BUt PRObabLy BuGged
<SebSeBseb> pOpey: YEah  apple aiM at a diffeNrwDT marKeT rEally, so Even that, isn't rEaLly porper cOmPeiTion to THEm
<davmor2> Sebsebseb: no I mean that wheN You own 90% oF thE deskTop mArket the
 put noting in here aboutWndows 10hmm
< seb seb se b> t wo o ther channelst houg h yes
<sebsebseb> anyw ay se em s  Des k to p Lin ux will ge t som ere alco m pe ttion  fr om it
< sebsebseb>  an dmost users w i lget it for  fr ee when upgr ain g from  W ind o ws 7or8 toit see m s.
<se bsebseb>ht t p://ww w .omgubu n t u. co.u k/2015/01/windows - 10 - microsoft-plan -to-wi n- u se r s -ba ck<bashrc> u gh . it' s  closed so u r c e.H ow can anyone  trust that ? 
<s ebsebs eb > b a shrc:so is  A p ple  or most of  it,  but yetthe am o unt ofu sers
<b ashrc>  co dethat yo ucan 't see is  co d e t hat youca n' t tru st
< s e b s ebse b>inde ed, b ut most compu ter  use r s d on'treall y kn ow  abou t that 
<dav mo r2> sebsebseb:no i t won't D esk to p l in ux ha s  never  be encompeti tion fo r  wi nd o w s  i n reality,  Chrome  O S on  the oth er han d  i st he close st  th ingt h at Mi cros o ft  have to  realc om pe titionan d that  a gai n i s pre t ty c losedtoo
<seb sebse b > well  and An d roid
<sebsebs e b> t he n 
<se bse bseb> that' s co m peti on t o 
< seb s ebseb > dav mo r 2: well  Desktop Linux  w as mea nt to  replace Unix , it's jus t f or  lots  ofp eo p le or usauly i t can  replace u s ing WInd ows t o yeah
< sebsebseb > if that' s w hat  yo u m e a nt 
<popey> that d oesn 't  mean t hey  see it  as  co mpe tit io n
<davmor 2> sebse bs eb :no  mi croso f t is try in g t obecompe t itionto an droi don dev ices, M S  a l r eady  l os t th atba ttleandi s p layingcatch up<po p ey>in  f act I h ad a marketin gVP of Micr os oft  tellm e  "We hav e no competition"
<sebs e bseb> p ope y: Ithin k there w assome o ldthingfrom a  fewye ars b ack,w he re o n Microsof t ' s c ompet it ionlist or  well potential th r eat s competion l ist , th e y  a cta u ll y  pu tC ano n i cal as well
<ba shrc> "con ve n ie nt and pow e rfu l" , but p robably  bugg e d
<sebs ebseb> po pey: yeah  Appl e aim  at a diff enrwdt m arket rea l ly, s o  e ven t hat , isn' trea lly p orperc omp eitio n to t he m
<dav mor2>  s ebsebseb : no I mean that when y ou own  90%ofthe deskt opm ark et the
 put_noting in_here about Wndows 10_hmm
<sebsebseb> two_other_channels though_yes
<sebsebseb>_anyway seems Desktop_Linux will get_some real compettion from_it
<sebsebseb> and most_users_wil get it for free when upgraing from Windows 7 or 8 to it_seems.
<sebsebseb>_http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/windows-10-microsoft-plan-to-win-users-back
<bashrc> ugh._it's_closed_source. How can anyone trust_that?
<sebsebseb> bashrc: so is Apple_or most_of it, but yet the amount of users
<bashrc>_code_that you can't_see is code that you can't trust
<sebsebseb> indeed, but_most computer users don't really know_about that
<davmor2> sebsebseb:_no_it_won't Desktop linux has_never been competition for windows in_reality,  Chrome OS on the_other hand is the closest thing that_Microsoft have to real competition and_that again is pretty closed_too
<sebsebseb> well_ and Android
<sebsebseb> then
<sebsebseb> that's_competion to
<sebsebseb> davmor2:_well _Desktop Linux was_meant to replace Unix, it's just_for  lots_of people or usauly it can_replace_using WIndows to_yeah
<sebsebseb>_if_that's what_you meant
<popey> that_doesn't_mean they_see_it as competition
<davmor2> sebsebseb: no microsoft_is_trying to be competition to android on_devices, MS already lost_that_battle and is playing_catch up
<popey> in fact I_had a marketing VP of Microsoft_tell me_"We have_no competition"
<sebsebseb> popey: I think there was some old  thing_from a few years back, _where  on Microsoft's_competition list_or_well potential threats_competion_list, they_actaully put Canonical as well
<bashrc> "convenient and_powerful", but_probably bugged
<sebsebseb> popey: yeah  Apple_aim at a diffenrwdt_market_really, so even that, isn't really_porper compeition to them
<davmor2> sebsebseb: no_I mean that when you_own_90%_of the desktop market the