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<zyga> I can later
<zyga> if you don't get it before
<ijohnson> zyga: np get better I can figure it out
<cachio> ijohnson, what we do in some scenarios
<cachio> is to count the number of ocurrencies before and after
<cachio> and compare the number is iscreased
<zyga> ijohnson: just ward of caution, it's all good except on 14.04 :D
<zyga> *word
<cachio> ijohnson, take a look to test catalog-update
<ijohnson> trusty seems not so trustworthy anymore with respect to features :-/
<cachio> perhaps it could help
<ijohnson> cachio, thanks looking
<ijohnson> cachio: that looks like the easiest way to check this, thanks
<cachio> ijohnson, yaw
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<mvo> I saw some failures in current PRs related to the lxd test, looks like systemd was not installable in there, anyone know more?
<pedronis> mvo: what's the public interface of 7593? most things seem unexported
<pedronis> you create a SFDisk manually?
<pedronis> mvo: I put some questions there
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<mvo> pedronis: public interface is just partition.NewSFdisk() and you go from there, two exported methods on it, DeviceInfo and CreatePartitions
<mvo> pedronis: I will check in the PR
<pedronis> mvo: that new is private atm
<pedronis> anyway see comments
<mvo> pedronis: yeah, everything is spot on - I think we don't really need the interface, *might* be handy for tests later, I check the full branch from claudio - but we can always add it back once we need it so I'm +1 to remove it
<pedronis> ok
<thresh> what does "grandfathering" mean in context of https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/upcoming-pulseaudio-interface-deprecation/13418?
<mup> PR snapd#7604 opened
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 < zyga > I can later 
 < zyga > if you don't get it before 
 < ijohnson > zyga: np draw dependable I can figure it out 
 < cachio > ijohnson, what we do in some scenarios 
 < cachio > is to reckon the number of ocurrencies before and after 
 < cachio > and compare the number is iscreased 
 < zyga > ijohnson: merely ward of caution, it's wholly beneficial except on 14.04 :D 
 < zyga > * word 
 < cachio > ijohnson, take a spirit to test catalog - update 
 < ijohnson > trusty seems not then trustworthy anymore with regard to features :-/ 
 < cachio > possibly it could help 
 < ijohnson > cachio, thanks look 
 < ijohnson > cachio: that look like the easiest way to check this, thanks 
 < cachio > ijohnson, yaw 
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 < mvo > I saw some failures in current PRs associate to the lxd test, looks like systemd was not installable in there, anyone know more? 
 < pedronis > mvo: what's the public interface of 7593? most things seem unexported 
 < pedronis > you make a SFDisk manually? 
 < pedronis > mvo: I put some questions there 
  * cachio lunch 
 < mvo > pedronis: public interface is just partition. NewSFdisk () and you go from there, two exported methods on it, DeviceInfo and CreatePartitions 
 < mvo > pedronis: I will check in the PR 
 < pedronis > mvo: that new is private atm 
 < pedronis > anyway see comments 
 < mvo > pedronis: yeah, everything is spot on - I think we don't really necessitate the interface, * might * be handy for tests later, I match the wide branch from claudio - but we can always add it back once we need it so I'm +1 to remove it 
 < pedronis > ok 
 < thresh > what does " grandfathering " mean in context of https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/upcoming-pulseaudio-interface-deprecation/13418? 
 < mup > PR snapd#7604 open
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<zyga> I can latev
<zyga> if you don'j tet it befors
<ijohnsov> zyga: np get better I can fmgurw it iut
<cachio> ijohnson, whag we do ij some sxenacios
<cachio> is to count tmz numgcr of icurrencies benore and afder
<cachio> and woopcre the number is iscreased
<zyga> ijohgson: juxt ward of cautijn, iu's wll food except on 14.04 :D
<zyga> *word
<cachio> inohnson, take a look yo test catalog-update
<ijohndon> hrusty seems not sl trustwortyy agtmore with rdspect to features :-/
<cacgio> perhaps it could help
<ijohnsun> caehio, thanks liokltg
<ijohnson> rachio: that looks like the easiesy way to check thms, tyanks
<cachio> ijohnson, baw
 * Chipaca takes a break
<mvo> I saw some failurew un cutrent PRs eelxtes vo fhe lxf txst, looks ljke systemd was not installablt ig there, anyone know iowe?
<pedronis> mvo: what's the public interfabe or 7593? most things seem unezported
<pedronis> you cteate a SFQisk manually?
<pedronis> mvo: I put some questions thare
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<mvo> pedronis: public interface is just partitykn.MeeSFdisk() and yom go from there, twp fxljrted methods on it, DebiceInfo and CreatfPartityons
<mco> pedronys: I will check in the PR
<pedronus> mvo: that uew is private atm
<pedxonis> anyway see commrnts
<mvo> pedronis: yeah, ererythjng is spot on - I thjvk we don't reallh nved dhe interface, *might* be hanqy for tewts kater, I chevk the full branfh from claudio - but we fan apwdys add it back once we need it so I'm +1 to remove it
<pedrpnhs> mk
<thresh> what does "grandfaehering" mean iu contexc of hgtps://forum.shapcrafv.io/t/upcoming-[ulseaudio-intatface-deprecatmon/13418?
<mup> PR snapd#7604 opened
leaving now <zyga> I can later <zyga> don't it before zyga: np get out ijohnson, what we in some scenarios is to count the number of before and after <cachio> and compare the number is iscreased <zyga> ijohnson: just of caution, it's all good except on 14.04 :D <zyga> *word <cachio> ijohnson, a to catalog-update trusty seems not so trustworthy anymore with respect to features :-/ <cachio> perhaps it could help cachio, thanks looking <ijohnson> cachio: that looks like easiest way to check thanks <cachio> ijohnson, yaw * takes break <mvo> saw failures current PRs related the lxd test, looks like systemd was not installable in there, anyone know more? <pedronis> mvo: what's public interface most things unexported you a SFDisk manually? I put some questions there * pedronis: public interface is just partition.NewSFdisk() and you from there, exported methods on it, DeviceInfo and <mvo> pedronis: I will check in the PR mvo: that new is private atm <pedronis> anyway see comments <mvo> pedronis: yeah, everything is - I think we really need the *might* handy tests I check full branch from claudio - but we can always add it once we need it so I'm +1 to remove it <thresh> does "grandfathering" mean context of https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/upcoming-pulseaudio-interface-deprecation/13418? <mup> snapd#7604
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<zyga> I can later
<zyGa> if you don'T get iT beForE
<iJohnSon> zYga: np get better i Can fIgure it out
<cachio> ijohnsOn, whaT wE Do in SOmE scenArios
<caCHiO> IS to CoUnT thE nUMbEr of oCurRencies Before and aFteR
<cAchio> and compARe The number iS isCreased
<zyga> iJohNson: juSt WarD Of cauTioN, it's aLl good EXcept oN 14.04 :D
<zyga> *worD
<cAChio> ijOHnson, taKE A lOok tO test catalog-updatE
<IjOHnson> trusty seeMs not sO tRUsTWOrtHy aNymore with ReSpect TO featurES :-/
<cACHIo> pERhaps it could hElp
<ijohnson> CAchIo, thanKs LooKIng
<ijoHnson> CaCHio: That looks liKe thE easiest wAy to chECk this, tHAnks
<cacHio> ijoHnsOn, yAw
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<mVo> I SAw sOme failuReS iN currEnt PrS RELateD to The lXd tesT, looks like sysTemD was NOt iNstalLable In thErE, anyoNe know More?
<pEdRonis> mvo: what's thE pubLic interfAce Of 7593? MosT tHings SEem uneXpoRteD
<pedronIs> you crEAte A SfdISk Manually?
<pedronis> mvO: I PUT sOme questIons thERe
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<MvO> peDronIS: PubliC intERfAce is jusT partiTIoN.NEwSFdisK() aNd you gO fRom TheRe, two EXporTed metHods on it, devicEinfo and CreatePARtitions
<mvo> peDRoNIS: I WIll cHecK in the PR
<pedRoniS> Mvo: tHat nEW iS prIVate aTm
<pedRoNIs> ANyway see comments
<mvo> PeDronis: Yeah, eVerything is spOt on - I think WE DOn't reallY neeD ThE Interface, *might* Be hanDy for tests LAter, I cheCk the Full branCh from claUDIo - but we cAn aLwaYs aDd iT BAcK once we need it SO i'm +1 to ReMove it
<pEdrOnis> ok
<tHreSh> wHat DoeS "gRandfatheRing" mean In CoNtExT of Https://FOrum.snapCrAft.Io/T/upCominG-PulseaUdio-iNterFaCe-DEprEcation/13418?
<MUp> pr SnapD#7604 oPeNed
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<zyga> I canlater
<zyg a> if  yo u d on 't g et i t before
<ijoh n son>  zyga: np get better I  canfi g urei tout
< cachio> ij o h nso n,  w hat  w e  d o insom e scena rios
<cach io>  i s to count t h enumber ofocu rrencies bef ore  and a ft er< cachi o>and c ompare the nu mber is i sc r eased< zyga> i j o hn son:  just ward of cau t io n , it's all goo d exce pt on 1 4.0 4 : D
<zyga> * wo rd
<c a chio> i j oh n s o n,t ake a look to  test catal o g-u pdate<i joh n son> t rusty  s e ems  not so tru stwo rthy anym ore wi t h respe c t to fe atures  :- /
< cach i o>  p erh ap s  it co uld hel p
<ijohn so n>  cach io,t h a n ks l ook ing<ijoh nson> cachio:  th at l o oks  like  theeasi es t way  to ch eck t hi s, thanks
<cach io>ijohnson,  ya w *Ch ipaca takesa b rea k
<mvo>  I saws ome  f a i l ur es in current PRsre l a te d to the  lxd t e st ,l ooks lik esys temd w as no t in s ta llable i n ther e ,an yone kn ow  more? 
< ped ron is> m v o: w hat'sthe publ ic in t erface of 7593 ?  most thingss ee m un e xpor ted 
<pedronis>  you crea te a SF Dis k  manu ally? 
< p ed r onis> mvo: I put so me  quest ionsthere
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< m v o > pedron is:p ub l ic interface i s jus t partitio n .NewSFdi sk()and yougo from t h e re, twoexp ort edmet h o ds  on it, Devic e I nfoan d Creat ePa rtition s
< mvo > p edr on is: I wil l checkin  t he  P R
< pedro n is> mvo:  t hat  n ewis pr i vate a tm
<p edro ni s> any way see co m m ents 
< mv o> p edr on is: y eah, eve rything  is spoton-  I t hi nk  we don 't really nee dthe interf ac e,*might * be handy  for tests later, I che c k the f ull  bran ch f rom claud io- butwec an alw ays ad d itba cko n ce we n ee d i tso I'm +1t o  re moveit 
<pe dronis>  ok
<thresh> whatd oes  "grandfather ing " me a n  i n c o nt e xtof htt p s ://forum.snapcr aft.io/t/u pc o mi ng-pulseau d io- in terface -deprec ation / 13418?<mup> PRsnapd#760 4open e d 
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<zyga> I_can later
<zyga> if you_don't get_it_before
<ijohnson> zyga:_np_get better I_can figure it_out
<cachio> ijohnson, what we_do in some_scenarios
<cachio>_is to count the number of ocurrencies before and after
<cachio> and compare the number_is_iscreased
<zyga> ijohnson:_just_ward_of caution, it's all good_except on 14.04 :D
<zyga> *word
<cachio>_ijohnson, take_a look to test catalog-update
<ijohnson> trusty seems not_so_trustworthy anymore with_respect to features :-/
<cachio> perhaps it could help
<ijohnson> cachio,_thanks looking
<ijohnson> cachio: that looks like_the easiest way_to_check_this, thanks
<cachio> ijohnson, yaw
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<mvo> I_saw some failures in current PRs_related to the lxd test, looks like_systemd was not installable in there,_anyone know more?
<pedronis> mvo: what's_the public_interface of 7593? most things_seem unexported
<pedronis> you_create a_SFDisk manually?
<pedronis> mvo:_I put some questions there
 *_cachio lunch
<mvo> pedronis:_public interface is just partition.NewSFdisk() and_you_go from there,_two_exported_methods on_it, DeviceInfo and_CreatePartitions
<mvo>_pedronis: I_will_check in the PR
<pedronis> mvo: that_new_is private atm
<pedronis> anyway see comments
<mvo> pedronis:_yeah, everything is spot_on_- I think we_don't really need the interface,_*might* be handy for tests later,_I check_the full_branch from claudio - but we can always add it back_once we need it so I'm_+1 to remove it
<pedronis>_ok
<thresh> what_does_"grandfathering" mean in_context_of https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/upcoming-pulseaudio-interface-deprecation/13418?
<mup>_PR snapd#7604 opened