" can't you?
<gord> i think i remember doing that
<hamitron> gord, no
<hamitron> you could in vista
<gord> ah
<hamitron> tbh, it wasn't such a big jump from XP
<hamitron> but I was from 2000
<hamitron> and I'm probably the sort of person who doesn't like change so much
<hamitron> :)
<gord> i can imagine - though weirdly xp -> vista is a larger jump than xp->7
<hamitron> I never used XP much
<hamitron> when i did, set it on classic menu
<hamitron> I will ofc try the next ubuntu
<hamitron> but just got a bad feeling, I won't be happy
<hamitron> dunno how unity works yet
<hamitron> suppose could maybe use LXDE
<oimon> lxde is quite like winxp
<hamitron> it is?
<hamitron> I'd compared it more to win95
<directhex> <hamitron> the worst thing I can see about 12.04, too many changes from 10.04 for users to get used to <-- i am dreading this for my users
<hamitron> yeh, be worse when you are in charge of them
<hamitron> at least I can tweak stuff for personal use
<oimon> mind you, when i upgraded my users to RHEL6, nobody complained about KDE4
<oimon> and it's the buggy 4.3.x version they use
<hamitron> how does Unity compare to Gnome2 and KDE?
<hamitron> is it easy to "pick up"?
<oimon> hamitron: where have you been?
<popey> for newbs, totally
<oimon> try a live cd :D
<directhex> in my testing, unity has been easier for gnome2 users than shell
<hamitron> live cd are a large download
<directhex> but the HUD thing changes matters
<hamitron> ;/
<hamitron> most machines here had a vista license, so just moved them onto that
<hamitron> so no rush
<o
" can't you? 
 < gord > i think i remember doing that 
 < hamitron > gord, no 
 < hamitron > you could in vista 
 < gord > ah 
 < hamitron > tbh, it wasn't such a big leap from XP 
 < hamitron > but I was from 2000 
 < hamitron > and I'm credibly the sort of person who doesn't like transfer then much 
 < hamitron > :) 
 < gord > i can imagine - though weirdly xp - > vista is a larger startle than xp->7 
 < hamitron > I never use XP much 
 < hamitron > when i did, sic it on classic menu 
 < hamitron > I will ofc try the future ubuntu 
 < hamitron > but just got a regretful feeling, I won't be happy 
 < hamitron > dunno how oneness works yet 
 < hamitron > think could maybe use LXDE 
 < oimon > lxde is quite like winxp 
 < hamitron > it is? 
 < hamitron > I'd compared it more to win95 
 < directhex > < hamitron > the bad thing I can see about 12.04, too many changes from 10.04 for user to get used to < -- i am dreading this for my users 
 < hamitron > yeh, be worse when you are in charge of them 
 < hamitron > at least I can pluck stuff for personal use 
 < oimon > mind you, when i upgraded my users to RHEL6, nobody complained about KDE4 
 < oimon > and it's the buggy 4.3.x version they use 
 < hamitron > how does Unity compare to Gnome2 and KDE? 
 < hamitron > is it easy to " pick up "? 
 < oimon > hamitron: where have you been? 
 < popey > for newbs, totally 
 < oimon > try a live cd :D 
 < directhex > in my testing, unity has been easy for gnome2 users than shell 
 < hamitron > live cd are a large download 
 < directhex > but the HUD matter change matters 
 < hamitron >; / 
 < hamitron > most machines here had a vista license, therefore just moved them onto that 
 < hamitron > so no rush 
 < oxygen
" caj't you?
<gord> i think i remtmber doing that
<hcnitron> gord, ho
<hamitrun> you could in vista
<gord> ah
<iamirron> uyh, it wasn't such a bkg jump fgom XP
<hamutroi> but I was from 2000
<hamitrok> and L'm prmuably the sort pf person fho doesn't lika zhcnge so much
<hamitron> :)
<gord> i can imagyne - thpuhh weirdly xp -> visua ys a larger jump than xp->7
<hamitron> I nevsr used XP much
<hamitton> when i did, set it on cpasslc menu
<hamitron> I aill ofc tri thq next ubuntu
<famitron> blc just got z bad feeling, I won't be happy
<haoitrou> dunno how ubitj works yet
<hemitrog> suppose comkd mayte use KXDE
<oimon> lxde is quute like winxp
<hamitroi> it is?
<hamitron> I'd cjmpared id jore to win95
<directyez> <hamhtrot> thd wofst tiinf I caj sxe about 12.04, tko many chabges from 10.04 for userx ei get used to <-- i am dweading this for my users
<hamitron> yeh, bt worae when you are in charte of them
<hamitron> at least I san tweak stuff for personal use
<oimon> mind you, whan i nperabcq ny users to RHEL6, nobody complained about KDE4
<oimjh> snc it's the buggn 4.3.x version they uxe
<jakytron> how doer Unitv ckmpare to Gnome2 anf KDE?
<haiitrob> is it ewsy yo "pick up"?
<oimon> hamitron: whwre have you veen?
<popey> for newbd, totally
<oioon> jry a kive cd :D
<directhex> in mv testjng, unity hws been ezrier for gnome2 urerx dhan shell
<hamitron> live cd are a lacge dpwnload
<airevthex> fut the HUF thikc changes matters
<hwmitrln> ;/
<hamitron> lost machines here had a vista license, so jusj mmveg them outo thst
<hamitron> so no rush
<o
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" can't you?
<gord> i think i remembeR doing that
<HamitRon> GorD, nO
<hamItroN> you could in visTA
<gorD> ah
<hamitron> tbh, it wasn't sUch a bIg JUmp fROm xP
<hamItron> buT i wAS FroM 2000
<hAmItrOn> ANd i'm proBabLy the soRt of person Who DoEsn't like chanGE sO much
<hamitRon> :)
<Gord> i can imagIne - Though WeIrdLY xp -> viSta Is a laRger juMP than xP->7
<hamitron> i nEVer useD xP much
<hAMItRon> wHen i did, set it on claSSiC Menu
<hamitron> I wIll ofc TrY ThE NExt UbuNtu
<hamitroN> bUt jusT Got a bad FEeLING, I wON't be happy
<hamiTron> dunno hoW UniTy workS yEt
<hAMitron> SuppoSe COulD maybe use LXdE
<oiMon> lxde is Quite lIKe winxp
<HAmitron> It is?
<haMitRon> i'd coMPaReD it MoRE to WIn95
<DirECthEx> <hamitrOn> ThE worsT thiNG i CAn seE abOut 12.04, tOo manY changes from 10.04 fOr uSers TO geT used To <-- i am DreaDiNg thiS for my Users
<HaMitron> yeh, be worsE wheN you are in ChaRgE of ThEm
<hamITron> at LeaSt I Can tweaK stuff fOR peRsONAL uSe
<oimon> mind you, when I uPGRaDed my useRs to RHel6, nObODy complaInEd aBout kde4
<oimoN> and IT's The buggy 4.3.X versiON tHeY use
<hamItRon> how DoEs UNitY compARe to gnome2 aNd KDE?
<hamItron> IS it easy to "pick uP"?
<Oimon> hamitron: WHeRE HaVE you BeeN?
<popey> for neWbs, tOTallY
<oimON> tRy a LIve cd :d
<direCtHEx> IN my testing, unity has bEeN easieR for gNome2 users than Shell
<hamitRON> Live cd arE a laRGe DOwnload
<directhEx> but The HUD thinG Changes mAtterS
<hamitroN> ;/
<hamitron> MOSt machinEs hEre Had A viSTA lIcense, so just mOVEd thEm Onto thaT
<haMitron> sO no RusH
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<gord> i thin k i rememb er do ing  th at 
<ha mitr on> gord, no
< h amit ron> you could in vist a
<go rd >  ah< ha mitro n> tbh, it w asn 't  s uch  a bi g jum p f rom XP<hamitron>  bu tI was from 2 0 00 
<hamitron > a nd I'm proba bly  the s or t o f  pers onwho d oesn't like c hange somu c h
<ham i tron> : ) <g ord>  i can imagine -t ho u gh weirdly xp-> vis ta is a  la rge r jump tha nxp->7 <hamitr o n> I nev e r used XP muc h
<hamitron >  wh en i d id , s e t it o n cla ss i c m enu
<hamitr on>I will of c tryt he next ubuntu<hamit ron > b ut j u st  g otab adf ee lin g , I  won't b eha ppy
< hami t r o n > du nno  how  unit y works yet
< ham itro n > s uppos e cou ld m ay be us e LXDE 
<oim on > lxde is quite  lik e winxp
< ham it ron >it is ? 
<hami tro n>I'd com pared i t  mo re t o  w in95
<directhex> < ha m i tr on> theworstt hi ng I can se eabo ut 1 2 . 04, t oo m a ny  changes  from1 0. 04  for us er s to g et  us edto <- -  i a m drea ding thi s for my users
<hami t ron> yeh, bew or s e  w h en y ouare in char ge o f  the m
<h a mi tro n > atleast  I ca n  tweak stuff for pe rs onal u se
<o imon> mind yo u, when iu p g raded my  use r st o RHEL6, nobod y com plained ab o ut KDE4<oimo n> and i t's the b u g gy 4.3.x  ve rsi onthe y us e
<hamitron>h o w do es  Unitycom pare to  Gn ome 2 a ndKD E?
<hamit ron> isit  e as yto"pick up"?
<oi mo n>ha mit ron:w here h ave y ou b ee n? <po pey> fo r  n e w bs,to ta lly<oi mo n> tr y al ive  cd :D<directhe x>i n my  t es ting, u nity has been  e asier forgn ome 2 user s than she ll
<hamitron> live cd a r e a lar gedownl oad<directhe x>but th e H U D thin g chan ges m at ter s <hami t r on > ; /<hamitron> m ost  mach in es h ere had  a vista license,s o j ust moved the m o ntot h at 
<h a mi t ron >s o n o rush
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" can't_you?
<gord> i_think i remember doing_that
<hamitron> gord,_no
<hamitron>_you could_in_vista
<gord> ah
<hamitron> tbh,_it wasn't such_a big jump from_XP
<hamitron> but I_was_from 2000
<hamitron> and I'm probably the sort of person who doesn't like change so_much
<hamitron>_:)
<gord> i_can_imagine_- though weirdly xp ->_vista is a larger jump_than xp->7
<hamitron>_I never used XP much
<hamitron> when i did,_set_it on classic_menu
<hamitron> I will ofc try the next ubuntu
<hamitron> but_just got a bad feeling, I_won't be happy
<hamitron>_dunno_how_unity works yet
<hamitron> suppose_could maybe use LXDE
<oimon> lxde is_quite like winxp
<hamitron> it is?
<hamitron> I'd_compared it more to win95
<directhex> <hamitron> the_worst thing I can see about_12.04, too many changes from_10.04 for_users to get used to_<-- i am_dreading this_for my users
<hamitron>_yeh, be worse when you are_in charge of_them
<hamitron> at least I can tweak_stuff_for personal use
<oimon>_mind_you,_when i_upgraded my users_to_RHEL6, nobody_complained_about KDE4
<oimon> and it's the buggy_4.3.x_version they use
<hamitron> how does Unity compare_to Gnome2 and KDE?
<hamitron>_is_it easy to "pick_up"?
<oimon> hamitron: where have you_been?
<popey> for newbs, totally
<oimon> try a_live cd_:D
<directhex> in_my testing, unity has been easier for gnome2 users than shell
<hamitron>_live cd are a large download
<directhex>_but the HUD thing_changes matters
<hamitron>_;/
<hamitron>_most machines here_had_a vista_license, so just moved them onto that
<hamitron>_so no_rush
<o