 the trick
<MartijnVdS> shauno: but getting a "Disk full" error during apt-get is annyoing :)
<MartijnVdS> annoying, too
<shauno> if you like pain, try running java apps on it :)
<MartijnVdS> shauno: I'm going to run a tiny "Google Cloud Print" connector daemon on it
<MartijnVdS> shauno: so I don't have to configure Chrome to do that.. because that breaks Chrome for some reason
<MartijnVdS> ("Could not load your profile")
<shauno> I've been trying to run a java app that was originally distributed on a 700MHz VIA /w 256MB
<shauno> was honestly suprised how much worse the pi performs
<diddledan__> shauno: I think that's probably due to evolution of java rather than badness of the pi
<MartijnVdS> the pi's CPU is *slow*
<shauno> it is.  a whole lot slower than the clock count betrays.
<diddledan__> I suppose part of that is no instruction reordering
<shauno> we have an app that used to be distributed on hardware.  but the HW is all dying.  I thought the pi might be a cheap way to keep it alive.  I was wrong.
<shauno> instead I'm distributing instructions on replacing the HDD with a CF card, because the pathetic cooling killing the HDD is the #1 killer, and the mobo it uses happens to have a CF carrier on the underside
<zleap> isn't there a beagle board or beagle bone that is better spec than the pi,  and can run ubuntu
<zleap> maybe something like that would work
<MartijnVdS> or a NUC
<shauno> it doesn't need to be ubuntu, the original is so old it's using RH pre-RHEL as a platform :)
<ali1234> how do you disable upstart services?
<shauno> as far as I can tell, you uninstall them
<ali1234> the linux software for leap motion runs a leapd as root with upstart - it's a system service that runs all the time
<shauno> I may be wrong, I often am; but it appears to be
the trick 
 < MartijnVdS > shauno: but getting a " Disk full " mistake during apposite - get is annyoing :) 
 < MartijnVdS > annoying, too 
 < shauno > if you like annoyance, try run java apps on it :) 
 < MartijnVdS > shauno: I'm going to run a bantam " Google Cloud Print " connection daemon on it 
 < MartijnVdS > shauno: so I don't have to configure Chrome to do that.. because that breaks Chrome for some cause 
 < MartijnVdS > (" Could not load your profile ") 
 < shauno > I've been trying to move a java app that was primitively distributed on a 700MHz VIA /w 256 MB 
 < shauno > was honestly suprised how much worse the pi perform 
 < diddledan _ _ > shauno: I think that's probably due to development of java rather than badness of the private detective 
 < MartijnVdS > the pi's CPU is * dense * 
 < shauno > it is.   a whole lot slower than the clock count betrays. 
 < diddledan _ _ > I suppose part of that is no teaching reordering 
 < shauno > we have an app that used to be distributed on hardware.   but the HW is all dying.   I thought the pi might be a cheap way to keep it alive.   I was wrong. 
 < shauno > instead I'm distributing instructions on replacing the HDD with a CF card, because the hapless cooling system killing the HDD is the # 1 killer, and the mobo it uses happen to have a CF carrier on the bottom 
 < zleap > isn't there a beagle board or beagle bone that is good spec than the pi,   and can run ubuntu 
 < zleap > possibly something like that would work 
 < MartijnVdS > or a NUC 
 < shauno > it doesn't need to be ubuntu, the original is so old it's using RH pre - RHEL as a platform :) 
 < ali1234 > how do you disable upstart services? 
 < shauno > as far as I can tell, you uninstall them 
 < ali1234 > the linux software for leap motion run a leapd as root with kip - it's a arrangement service that runs all the time 
 < shauno > I may be wrong, I frequently am; but it appears to be
 thf trick
<MartijnVdS> shauno: but getting a "Busk funl" errkr durine apt-get is annyoing :)
<MartijnTdS> qnnoyung, too
<shauno> if you lkke pain, nry runnibg jeva apps on it :)
<MedtijnVdS> shauhl: I'm joing to run a jiny "Google Wloud Print" cotndccor daemon on it
<MartijnVdS> shauno: so I don't hwve to configute Chgoie tk do that.. because that breaks Chroje for vome reason
<MattijnVdS> ("Could not load yokr pgofile")
<shauno> I've bfen trying jk rtb a java app that was originally djstributed on a 700MHz VIA /w 256MB
<shajno> wcs honestly syprlved how muci worsv the pi performs
<diddnedan__> snauno: I think bhat's pribably due to evolutimn of java rather jhan badnevs of the pi
<MartijnCdW> the pi's CPU us *rlos*
<siauho> it ls.  a whole lkt slower tyan the clock count bqntays.
<diddledah__> I su[pjse part of that is no instruction reorgerjng
<shauno> we have an app that used to be disjributed og hardware.  but the HW is all dying.  I thought tha pi jkghu nc a zyewp way to keep it alive.  I was wrong.
<shauno> inffesd I'm distributikg instructions on rfpkwcing the HDD with c CR card, because the pathetyc coiling kiljing the HDD is the #1 killer, and the mobo it yses happens to hare a CF carrner on the inderside
<zleap> isn't thexe a bsagle board or beagls bone that is begteg spac than ufe pi,  and can rug ubuntu
<zoeap> maybe romejhing lyke that wluld work
<MartijnVdS> or a NUC
<skauno> it doesn't need to be ubuntu, the original is so old it's uvinc RH pre-XHEL ax a platform :)
<wli1234> how do you disablz upstxrt servicvs?
<shauno> es far as I san tell, you gjinstall thek
<ali1234> the linyx siftware wor leap motiom runs a leapd as riot with upstart - lt's a aystem service ckau euns all the tome
<rhatnl> M may te wrong, I oxten am; nut ig appears ti be
the trick <MartijnVdS> shauno: but getting a error apt-get is :) <MartijnVdS> annoying, pain, running java apps it :) <MartijnVdS> I'm going to run a tiny Cloud Print" connector daemon on it <MartijnVdS> shauno: so I don't have to Chrome to do that.. because that breaks Chrome for some reason <MartijnVdS> ("Could load profile") I've trying to run a java app that was originally distributed on a 700MHz VIA /w 256MB was honestly suprised how much worse the pi <diddledan__> shauno: I think probably due to evolution of rather badness of pi the CPU is *slow* it is. a whole lot slower than the clock count betrays. <diddledan__> I suppose part of that no instruction we have app used be distributed on the HW is all dying. I might be a cheap way to keep it I was <shauno> instead I'm distributing instructions on the HDD with a CF card, because the cooling killing the HDD is the #1 killer, and the mobo it uses happens to CF carrier on the <zleap> isn't there beagle or bone is better than the pi, and can run ubuntu <zleap> maybe something like would work <MartijnVdS> or a NUC <shauno> it doesn't need ubuntu, original is so it's using RH pre-RHEL a :) <ali1234> how do upstart <shauno> I tell, uninstall them <ali1234> the software for leap motion runs leapd as root with service that runs all the time <shauno> I be wrong, I often am; but it to be
 the trick
<MartijnVdS> shauno: bUt getting a "disk fUll" ErrOr DuriNg apT-get is annyoing :)
<mArtiJnVdS> annoying, too
<shauno> If you LiKE paiN, TrY runnIng java APpS ON it :)
<maRtIjnvds> ShAuno: I'M goIng to ruN a tiny "GoogLe CLoUd Print" conneCToR daemon on iT
<MaRtijnVdS> shauNo: sO I don't HaVe tO ConfiGurE ChroMe to do THat.. becAuse that bReAKs ChroME for somE REaSon
<MArtijnVdS> ("Could not LOaD Your profile")
<shaUno> I've BeEN tRYIng To rUn a java app ThAt was ORiginalLY dISTRibUTed on a 700MHz VIA /w 256mB
<shauno> was HOneStly suPrIseD How mucH worsE tHE pi Performs
<didDledAn__> shauno: I Think tHAt's probABly due tO evoluTioN of Java RAtHeR thAn BAdnESs Of tHE pi
<martijnVDS> ThE pi's CpU is *SLOW*
<ShauNo> iT is.  a Whole Lot slower than The ClocK CouNt betRays.
<dIddlEdAn__> I suPpose pArt of ThAt is no instructiOn reOrdering
<sHauNo> We hAvE an apP That usEd tO be DistribUted on hARdwArE.  BUT tHe HW is all dying.  I thoUgHT ThE pi might Be a cheAP wAy TO keep it aLiVe.  I Was wRONg.
<shaUno> iNStEad I'm disTributINg InStructiOnS on repLaCinG thE HDD wITh a Cf card, bEcause thE pathETic cooling killINg the HDD is the #1 KIlLER, aND the MobO it uses happEns tO Have A CF cARrIer ON the uNdersIdE
<ZlEAp> isn't there a beagle bOaRd or beAgle bOne that is bettEr spec than THE Pi,  and can Run uBUnTU
<zleap> maybe somEthinG like that wOUld work
<MArtijNVdS> or a NuC
<shauno> iT DOesn't neeD to Be uBunTu, tHE OrIginal is so old IT'S usiNg rH pre-RHeL aS a platfOrm :)
<Ali1234> How Do yOu Disable upStart serViCeS?
<sHaUno> As far AS I can telL, yOu uNiNstAll thEM
<ali1234> thE linuX sofTwArE For Leap motIOn RUNs a lEaPd As roOt wItH upstArt - iT'S a sYstem seRvice that RunS All tHe TiMe
<shaunO> I may be wrong, I OfTen am; but it ApPeaRs to be
 the trick
<MartijnVdS> sh auno: butgetti nga " Di sk f ull"  error duringa pt-g et is annyoing :)
<Mar tijnV dS >  ann o yi ng, t oo
<sha u no > ifyo ulik ep ai n, tr y r unningjava appsonit  :)
<Martijn V dS > shauno:I'm  going to ru n a  tiny"G oog l e Clo udPrint " conn e ctor d aemon onit <Marti j nVdS> s h a un o: s o I don't have to co n figure Chrometo doth a t. . bec aus e that bre ak s Chr o me fors om e r eas o n
<MartijnVdS > ("Could n o t l oad yo ur  pr o file") 
<sha un o > I 've been tr ying  to run a  javaa pp that was ori ginall y d ist ribu t ed  o n a  7 0 0MH z  V IA/ w 2 56MB
<sh au no > was  hon e s t l y su pri sedhow m uch worse the  pi  per f orm s
<di ddled an__ >shaun o: I t hinkth at's probably d ue t o evoluti onof  ja va  rath e r than  ba dne ss of t he pi
< M art ij n V d S>  the pi's CPU is * sl o w *<shauno>  it is .  aw hole lot  s low er t h a n the  clo c kcount be trays. <d id dledan_ _>  I sup po separ t oft hatis noinstruct ion r e ordering
<shau n o> we have an ap p th a t us edto be distr ibut e d on  har d wa re.  butthe H Wi sa ll dying.  I though tthe pi  migh t be a cheapway to kee p i t alive.   Iw as wrong.
<shauno > ins tead I'm d i stributi ng in structio ns on rep l a cing the  HD D w ith  aC F  c ard, becauset h e pa th etic co oli ng kill ing  th e H DDis  the #1 k iller, a nd  t he  m obo  it u s es happe ns  to  h ave  a CF carrie r ontheun de r sid e
<zlea p >i s n'tth er e abea gl e boa rd o r  be agle bo ne that i s b e tter  s pe c thanthe pi,  andca n run ubun tu 
<z leap>m a ybe some thing like that would w o rk
<Mar tij nVdS>  ora NUC
<sh aun o> itdoe s n't ne ed tobe ub un tu, t he or i g in alis  so old it ' s  us ing R Hpre- RHEL as  a platform :)
<al i 123 4> how do you  di sabl e up sta r ts erv ic e s?< s hauno> as far a s I can te ll ,  y ou uninsta l l t he m
<ali1 234> th e lin u x softw are for l eap motio nruns a  le apd as roo t with u pstart -i t's a sy stemser vice t ha t r uns a ll the tim e
<sh auno>Imay be  wron g,  I often  am; but it appears tobe
 the_trick
<MartijnVdS> shauno:_but getting a "Disk_full" error_during_apt-get is_annyoing_:)
<MartijnVdS> annoying, too
<shauno>_if you like_pain, try running java_apps on it_:)
<MartijnVdS>_shauno: I'm going to run a tiny "Google Cloud Print" connector daemon on it
<MartijnVdS>_shauno:_so I_don't_have_to configure Chrome to do_that.. because that breaks Chrome_for some_reason
<MartijnVdS> ("Could not load your profile")
<shauno> I've been_trying_to run a_java app that was originally distributed on a 700MHz_VIA /w 256MB
<shauno> was honestly suprised_how much worse_the_pi_performs
<diddledan__> shauno: I think_that's probably due to evolution of_java rather than badness of the_pi
<MartijnVdS> the pi's CPU is *slow*
<shauno> it_is.  a whole lot slower_than the clock count betrays.
<diddledan__>_I suppose_part of that is no_instruction reordering
<shauno> we_have an_app that used_to be distributed on hardware. _but the HW_is all dying.  I thought_the_pi might be_a_cheap_way to_keep it alive.__I was_wrong.
<shauno>_instead I'm distributing instructions on replacing_the_HDD with a CF card, because the_pathetic cooling killing the_HDD_is the #1 killer,_and the mobo it uses_happens to have a CF carrier_on the_underside
<zleap> isn't_there a beagle board or beagle bone that is better spec_than the pi,  and can_run ubuntu
<zleap> maybe something_like that_would_work
<MartijnVdS> or a_NUC
<shauno>_it doesn't_need to be ubuntu, the original is_so old_it's using RH pre-RHEL as a_platform :)
<ali1234> how do_you_disable upstart services?
<shauno> as far as_I can tell, you uninstall them
<ali1234>_the linux software for leap_motion_runs_a leapd as root with_upstart - it's a system service_that runs all_the time
<shauno> I may be wrong, I_often_am; but it appears to be