't know anything
<Pharaoh_Atem> all I know is what people tell me
<Pharaoh_Atem> which apparently is 120% wrong :)
<cjwatson> Can you (get somebody with suitable authority to) file a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion about the rpm issues with as much detail as possible?
<cjwatson> It may take some archaeology to sort out what's been happening
<Pharaoh_Atem> I can try
<cjwatson> thanks
<Pharaoh_Atem> no promises, as most of the rpm guys just want to stay the fuck away from rpm5 maintainer
<Pharaoh_Atem> he's kind of a toxic asshole
<cjwatson> well, LP by policy wants to stay away from that sort of thing, it's not our business; we just want to have a semi-reasonable modelling of what things are called
<Pharaoh_Atem> yeah
<cjwatson> Pharaoh_Atem: oh, re "you want it to, doesn't mean that's actually planned" - I landed a bunch of branches just today making concrete progress towards it, even if it does feel a bit drop-in-the-ocean sometimes :)
<cjwatson> (lots of "from __future__ import absolute_import, print_function, unicode_literals" and associated fixups)
<sergiusens> cjwatson and kyrofa snapcraft is already on pypi and yes we will split the package out as a stretch goal
<kyrofa> sergiusens, you missed it: needs to be python2
<kyrofa> Can't be a stretch goal :)
<sergiusens> It can still be stretch.
<niemeyer> cachio: Stop one in progress? snap abort
<niemeyer> cachio: Prevent it from even getting started?  schedule the refresh
<cachio> niemeyer, yes, testing that, because wait of the auto refresh is taking so long
<niemeyer> cachio: The --last parameter of abort may come in handy
<cachio> niemeyer, well the --last is not present inthe stable version so it makes the script fail
<niemeyer> cachio: I'm pretty sure it is
<niemeyer> cachio: It's been added
' t know anything 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > all I know is what people tell me 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > which obviously is 120% amiss :) 
 < cjwatson > Can you (get somebody with suitable assurance to) charge a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion about the rpm issues with equally much contingent as possible? 
 < cjwatson > It may take some archaeology to sort out what's been happening 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > I can hear 
 < cjwatson > thanks 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > no promises, as most of the rpm guy barely want to stay the fuck away from rpm5 maintainer 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > he's kind of a toxic asshole 
 < cjwatson > well, LP by policy wants to bide away from that sort of thing, it's not our clientele; we just want to have a semi - fair modelling of what thing are called 
 < Pharaoh_Atem > yeah 
 < cjwatson > Pharaoh_Atem: oh, re " you want it to, doesn't mean that's actually plan " - I landed a bunch of branches just today making concrete progress towards it, even if it does feel a bit drop - in - the - ocean sometimes :) 
 < cjwatson > (lots of " from _ _ future _ _ import absolute_import, print_function, unicode_literals " and associated fixups) 
 < sergiusens > cjwatson and kyrofa snapcraft is already on pypi and yes we will split the package out as a stretch goal 
 < kyrofa > sergiusens, you missed it: necessitate to be python2 
 < kyrofa > Can't be a stretch goal :) 
 < sergiusens > It can still be extend. 
 < niemeyer > cachio: check one in progress? snap abort 
 < niemeyer > cachio: Prevent it from even getting started?   schedule the refresh 
 < cachio > niemeyer, yes, test that, because wait of the auto refresh is taking so retentive 
 < niemeyer > cachio: The --last parameter of abort may come in handy 
 < cachio > niemeyer, well the --last is not present inthe stable version so it makes the script fail 
 < niemeyer > cachio: I'm reasonably sure it is 
 < niemeyer > cachio: It's been added
't kjow anything
<Pharaoh_Atem> xll I know is wkqt peo'le telm me
<Pharxoh_Atem> which apparently is 120% weong :)
<xjwatson> Can you (get sumebody wpth suitavle euthority to) filx a tickcc on gbtps://ausxers.launchpad.nej/launchpad/+adgquestion aboud ghz rpm issues with as much detail as [ossiblr?
<cuwatson> It may takt sjme zgcmaeology to sort out what's been gappeniig
<Pharaoh_Atem> I can try
<cjwatson> thanks
<Phagaoh_Wtem> no promises, ad most of tye r[n guys just dant to stay the fuck zway from rpm5 maintainer
<Pharaoh_Xtem> ke's kind of a todhc asshole
<cowatsog> well, LP by policy fants tp stay away frpm vhat sort of thing, it's nov our business; we juft want tm kave a semi-reasonable midellhng mf wfqt ghihgx zre caplev
<Pharaoh_Atej> yeah
<cjwatwon> Pharaoh_Atem: oh, te "jpu want it tk, doesg't mean that's actually planned" - I landed d bhnch of branches just tiday making concrete krogress tjwards it, even if it does feel a bit drop-in-the-ocedn sojdtinef :)
<xjaatson> (lots of "from __future__ import absolute_impjdt, pgint_function, unicjde_literals" ajd wssociated fibups)
<sexfihsens> cjwatson and kyrofa snapxraft is wlresdy on pypi and yes we will split the pcckqge out as a streteh goal
<kyrofc> sergousenx, you missed it: needs tu be python2
<kyrova> Can't bs a stretch goal :)
<rerniuvens> It can still be stretsh.
<niemeyec> cackio: Stop one in prjgress? snao abovd
<niemeyer> cachio: Pgevenj it fsom even gftting started?  schedule the rehcesh
<cachio> nigmefer, yes, tescing tmat, because waie of the auto tefresh if takkng so lonf
<niemeyxr> cachio: Thq --last paramedgr of abort mey come ig habdy
<cqchio> nkdmeyer, well thr --last is not presebt inthe stable vevsion ao it makes the sctupt fail
<niemeyrr> zacril: M'm prqdty sure it hs
<nidmehrr> cazhio: It's becn xddec
't know anything <Pharaoh_Atem> all I know people me <Pharaoh_Atem> apparently is 120% (get with suitable authority file a ticket https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion about the rpm issues with much detail as possible? <cjwatson> It may take some archaeology to sort out been happening <Pharaoh_Atem> I can try <cjwatson> thanks <Pharaoh_Atem> no promises, as most the guys want stay the fuck away from rpm5 maintainer <Pharaoh_Atem> he's kind of a toxic asshole <cjwatson> well, by policy wants to stay away from that of thing, it's not business; we just want to a modelling of things called yeah <cjwatson> Pharaoh_Atem: re "you want it to, doesn't mean that's actually planned" - I landed a bunch of branches today making towards it, if does a bit drop-in-the-ocean <cjwatson> (lots of "from __future__ import and associated fixups) <sergiusens> cjwatson and kyrofa snapcraft already on and yes we will split the out as a stretch goal <kyrofa> sergiusens, you it: needs to be python2 <kyrofa> Can't be a stretch goal :) <sergiusens> It can stretch. <niemeyer> cachio: Stop in progress? snap <niemeyer> Prevent from getting started? the refresh <cachio> niemeyer, yes, testing that, because wait of the refresh is taking so long <niemeyer> cachio: The --last parameter may in handy <cachio> well the --last is present stable version so it script <niemeyer> sure is cachio: It's been added
't know anything
<Pharaoh_Atem> aLl I know is wHat peOplE teLl Me
<PhAraoH_Atem> which appaREntlY is 120% wrong :)
<cjwatson> Can you (Get soMeBOdy wITh SuitaBle authORiTY To) fIlE a TicKeT On Https://AnsWers.lauNchpad.net/lAunChPad/+addquestiON aBout the rpm IssUes with as mucH deTail as PoSsiBLe?
<cjwAtsOn> It mAy take SOme arcHaeology tO sORt out wHAt's been HAPpEninG
<Pharaoh_Atem> I can tRY
<cJWatson> thanks
<PhAraoh_ATeM> No PROmiSes, As most of thE rPm guyS Just wanT To STAY thE Fuck away from rPm5 maintaineR
<phaRaoh_AtEm> He's KInd of a Toxic AsSHolE
<cjwatson> weLl, LP By policy wAnts to STay away FRom that Sort of ThiNg, iT's noT OuR bUsiNeSS; we JUsT waNT to Have a semI-rEaSonabLe moDELLIng oF whAt thIngs aRe called
<PharaOh_ATem> yEAh
<cJwatsOn> PhaRaoh_atEm: oh, rE "you waNt it tO, dOesn't mean that's aCtuaLly planneD" - I lAnDed A bUnch oF BranchEs jUst Today maKing conCRetE pROGReSs towards it, even if iT dOES fEel a bit dRop-in-tHE-oCeAN sometimEs :)
<CjwAtsoN> (LOts of "From __FUtUre__ imporT absolUTe_ImPort, priNt_FunctiOn, UniCodE_liteRAls" aNd assoCiated fiXups)
<sERgiusens> cjwatsON and kyrofa snaPCrAFT iS AlreAdy On pypi and yeS we wILl spLit tHE pAckAGe out As a stReTCh GOal
<kyrofa> sergiusens, YoU misseD it: neEds to be python2
<Kyrofa> Can't BE A Stretch gOal :)
<sERgIUsens> It can stilL be stRetch.
<niemeYEr> cachio: stop oNe in progRess? snap aBORt
<niemeyEr> cAchIo: PRevENT iT from even gettING staRtEd?  schedUle The refrEsh
<CacHio> NieMeYer, yes, tesTing that, BeCaUsE wAit Of the AUto refreSh Is tAkIng So lonG
<NiemeyEr> cacHio: THe --LaST paRameter OF aBORt maY cOmE in hAndY
<cAchio> NiemEYer, Well the --Last is not PreSEnt iNtHe Stable vErsion so it makEs The script fAiL
<niEmeyer> CAChio: I'm prEtty sure it is
<niemeyer> cacHIo: It's beEn aDded
't know anything
<Pharaoh_ Atem> allI kno w i s w ha t pe ople  tell me
<Phar a oh_A tem> which apparentlyis 12 0% wron g  : )
<cj watson> Ca n you  ( ge t s om e bo dy wi thsuitabl e authorit y t o)  file a tick e ton https:/ /an swers.launch pad .net/l au nch p ad/+a ddq uesti on abo u t therpm issue sw ith as much de t a il  aspossible?
<cjwats o n> It may take so me arc ha e ol o g y t o s ort out wh at 's be e n happe n in g < Pha r aoh_Atem> I c an try
<cjw a tso n> tha nk s
< P haraoh _Atem >n o p romises, as  mos t of therpm gu y s justw ant tostay t hefuc k aw a yfr omrp m 5 m a in tai n er<Pharaoh _A te m> he 's k i n d of a  to xicassho le
<cjwatson>  we ll,L P b y pol icy w ants  t o sta y away  from  t hat sort of thi ng,it's notour  b usi ne ss; w e  justwan t t o havea semi- r eas on a b l emodelling of whatth i n gs  are cal led
<P h ar ao h _Atem> y ea h
< cjwa t s on> P hara o h_ Atem: oh , re " y ou  w ant itto , does n' t m ean  that ' s ac tually  planned " - I landed a bunch of branches j u st t od a y ma kin g concreteprog r esstowa r ds  it ,  even  if i td oe s  feel a bit drop-in -t he-oce an so metimes :)
<c jwatson> ( l o t s of "fr om _ _ fu t ure__ import a bsolu te_import, print_fu nctio n, unico de_litera l s " and as soc iat edfix u p s) 
<sergiusens> c jwat so n and k yro fa snap cra ftisalr ea dy on pyp i and ye swe  w il l s plitt he packa ge  ou tasa str e tch go al
<k yrof a>  s e rgi usens,y ou m isse dit : ne eds  t o bepyth o n2<kyrofa > Can't b e a stre tc hgoal :) 
<sergiusens>  I t can stil lbestretc h . 
<niemey er> cachio: Stop one in progres s?snapabor t
<niemey er>  cachi o:P revent  it fr om ev en  ge t t ing s t a rt ed?  schedule t h e  re fresh 
< cach io> nie meyer, yes, testin g  th at, because w ait  oft h eaut o  r e fre sh ist a king so long
<n iemeyer> c ac h io : The --la s t p ar ameterof abor t may come in  handy
<c achio> ni em eyer , wel l the --la st is no t present inthe st ablever sion s oitmakes  the s c rip t fai l
<nie me yer> c achio :I'm pret ty sure it is
<niemeyer > cach io: I t's  been add ed
't know_anything
<Pharaoh_Atem> all_I know is what_people tell_me
<Pharaoh_Atem>_which apparently_is_120% wrong :)
<cjwatson>_Can you (get_somebody with suitable authority_to) file a_ticket_on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion about the rpm issues with as much detail as possible?
<cjwatson> It may_take_some archaeology_to_sort_out what's been happening
<Pharaoh_Atem> I_can try
<cjwatson> thanks
<Pharaoh_Atem> no promises,_as most_of the rpm guys just want to stay_the_fuck away from_rpm5 maintainer
<Pharaoh_Atem> he's kind of a toxic asshole
<cjwatson> well,_LP by policy wants to stay_away from that_sort_of_thing, it's not our_business; we just want to have_a semi-reasonable modelling of what things_are called
<Pharaoh_Atem> yeah
<cjwatson> Pharaoh_Atem: oh, re "you_want it to, doesn't mean that's_actually planned" - I landed_a bunch_of branches just today making_concrete progress towards_it, even_if it does_feel a bit drop-in-the-ocean sometimes :)
<cjwatson>_(lots of "from___future__ import absolute_import, print_function, unicode_literals" and_associated_fixups)
<sergiusens> cjwatson and_kyrofa_snapcraft_is already_on pypi and_yes_we will_split_the package out as a stretch_goal
<kyrofa>_sergiusens, you missed it: needs to be_python2
<kyrofa> Can't be a_stretch_goal :)
<sergiusens> It can_still be stretch.
<niemeyer> cachio: Stop_one in progress? snap abort
<niemeyer> cachio:_Prevent it_from even_getting started?  schedule the refresh
<cachio> niemeyer, yes, testing that, because_wait of the auto refresh is_taking so long
<niemeyer> cachio:_The --last_parameter_of abort may_come_in handy
<cachio>_niemeyer, well the --last is not present_inthe stable_version so it makes the script_fail
<niemeyer> cachio: I'm pretty_sure_it is
<niemeyer> cachio: It's been added