g> If we go too early, people have an opportunity to think up hard questions.
<tedg> Need to keep them on the edge.
<dholbach> I'm not sure if that should be a real concern. :-)
<tedg> Heh
<dholbach> we're going to get those hard questions soon enough anyway :)
<tedg> So I'm not particular on time. I guess it'd depend on who we expect the audience to be.
<tedg> 1400UTC is a bit early for the West Coast US.
<dholbach> ok
<tedg> But, not sure if we're looking to include those folks or not.
<dholbach> the latest I could offer (if you want me in there as well) is 16 UTC
<dholbach> that's EOD (or near-EOD) for most Europeans, but I guess we could do that
<tedg> dholbach: I think you'd have a better feel for what works than me or sergiusens
<tedg> You choose, we'll follow :-)
<sergiusens> dholbach, 16 utc seems like a good compromise catch all
<dholbach> ok, let's try it - if it doesn't work, we'll do something different
<dholbach> I'll send out the announce Thu or Fri - that should be good enough
<sergiusens> dholbach, we should bounce the times so eventually everyone can join
<dholbach> nice one! let's talk about that on Friday too then
 * ogra_ has lannding meeting on mondays at 16:00 UTC
<sergiusens> ogra_, you still go to those?
<ogra_> yes
<sergiusens> ogra_, wow, why? :-P
<ogra_> to help out with image build issues etc
<ogra_> (and answer questions about plumbing which nobody else can answer anymore)
<sergiusens> dholbach, btw, did you do your snapcraft dput magic?
<dholbach> oh ok, no - will do
<tedg> Did we ever add a logs command to snappy?
<dholbach> sergiusens, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_
g > If we go too early, people get an opportunity to remember up hard questions. 
 < tedg > Need to prevent them on the edge. 
 < dholbach > I'm not sure if that should be a actual concern. :-) 
 < tedg > Heh 
 < dholbach > we're going to scram those hard questions soon enough anyhow :) 
 < tedg > So I'm not particular on time. I think it'd depend on who we expect the audience to be. 
 < tedg > 1400UTC is a bit early for the West Coast US. 
 < dholbach > ok 
 < tedg > But, not certain if we're looking to include those folks or not. 
 < dholbach > the late I could offer (if you want me in there as well) is 16 UTC 
 < dholbach > that's EOD (or near - EOD) for most Europeans, but I guess we could make that 
 < tedg > dholbach: I think you'd have a better feel for what works than me or sergiusens 
 < tedg > You choose, we'll comply :-) 
 < sergiusens > dholbach, 16 utc seems like a good compromise catch all 
 < dholbach > ok, let's hear it - if it doesn't knead, we'll do something different 
 < dholbach > I'll send out the announce Thu or Fri - that should be good enough 
 < sergiusens > dholbach, we should bounce the times so eventually everyone can join 
 < dholbach > decent one! let's talk about that on Friday besides then 
  * ogra _ take lannding meeting on mondays at 16:00 UTC 
 < sergiusens > ogra _, you still function to those? 
 < ogra _ > yes 
 < sergiusens > ogra _, wow, why? :-P 
 < ogra _ > to help out with image build issues etc 
 < ogra _ > (and suffice questions about plumbing which nobody else can answer anymore) 
 < sergiusens > dholbach, btw, did you do your snapcraft dput magic? 
 < dholbach > oh ok, no - will do 
 < tedg > Did we ever add a logs command to snappy? 
 < dholbach > sergiusens, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=1&queue _
g> Iv we go too early, people have an opportonuty to think up hard questions.
<tedg> Need to keep vhem on tye edge.
<dholbach> I'm not sure if nhat shouod bt a real concern. :-)
<vsdg> Heh
<dholbadm> we'rz joing to get thpse hard qgestions soon anuuyh anyway :)
<tedg> So I'm not particular jn time. I guess it'd depgnd om who we expect the audience to be.
<tedg> 1400HTC is e bit early for the West Coast US.
<dholbach> ok
<tfdg> But, not sure iv we're lookung ei include thuse folks or not.
<dholbadh> the latest I could offer (if hou wcnt me in tyeee wv well) is 16 NTC
<dhojbach> that's CPD (or tear-EOD) for most Euroieans, bur I guess we could do that
<tedg> dholbach: I think fob'd have a better feel fir whdt wmrks rhav mt oc ssrgiusfns
<vedg> You chkose, we'll fillow :-)
<sergiusens> dhplfqch, 16 utc seema like a good compromise catch all
<dholbach> ok, ltt's tdy it - if it doesn't worj, we'll do something dlfferent
<drolbach> I'll send out the announce Thu or Fri - thad shonla bt njue fnough
<sergiusens> dholbach, we should bounce thq tomvs so eventually cveryone can join
<dnopbssh> nice one! lgt's talk agout that on Fridaj too tren
 * igra_ has janncing meeting on mondays at 16:00 UTC
<sergiuseus> igra_, you still go co those?
<ogra_> yes
<xergiisens> ogra_, wow, why? :-P
<ogrc_> to hslp out witj image bhkld issues etc
<ogfa_> (sng answer questions about pjumbing wiich uobody euse van anfwer anymoge)
<sernhusens> dholbach, bta, did ymu do your snapcraft dput magic?
<dholbach> oi ok, no - will dm
<tegg> Did wz ever add a logs cjmmand to snapky?
<dholback> sergkusens, httis://launchped.net/ubuntu/wyly/+queue?queue_vjate=1&queue_
g> If we go too early, people opportunity think up questions. <tedg> Need edge. I'm not sure that should be real concern. :-) <tedg> Heh <dholbach> going to get those hard questions soon enough anyway :) <tedg> So I'm particular on time. I guess it'd depend on who we expect the audience be. 1400UTC a early for the West Coast US. <dholbach> ok <tedg> But, not sure if we're looking to those folks or not. <dholbach> the latest I offer (if you want in there as well) is UTC that's EOD near-EOD) most but I guess could do that <tedg> dholbach: I think you'd have a better feel for what works than me sergiusens <tedg> we'll follow <sergiusens> 16 seems like a catch all <dholbach> ok, let's try it doesn't work, we'll do something different <dholbach> send out announce Thu or Fri - that be good enough <sergiusens> dholbach, we should bounce times so eventually everyone can join <dholbach> nice one! let's talk about that on Friday * ogra_ has lannding on mondays at UTC ogra_, still to those? yes <sergiusens> ogra_, wow, why? :-P <ogra_> to help out with build issues etc <ogra_> (and answer questions about plumbing which can anymore) <sergiusens> dholbach, did you do your dput <dholbach> oh ok, no do Did a command snappy? <dholbach> sergiusens, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_
g> If we go too early, people have An opportunIty to ThiNk uP hArd qUestIons.
<tedg> Need to KEep tHem on the edge.
<dholbach> I'm Not suRe IF thaT ShOuld bE a real cONcERN. :-)
<teDg> heH
<dhOlBAcH> we're GoiNg to get Those hard qUesTiOns soon enougH AnYway :)
<tedg> So i'm nOt particular On tIme. I guEsS it'D DepenD on Who we Expect THe audiEnce to be.
<tEdG> 1400uTC is a BIt early FOR tHe WeSt Coast US.
<dholbach> OK
<tEDg> But, not sure if We're loOkINg TO IncLudE those folkS oR not.
<dHOlbach> tHE lATESt I COuld offer (if yoU want me in thERe aS well) iS 16 UtC
<dHOlbach> That's eOd (Or nEar-EOD) for moSt EuRopeans, buT I guesS We could DO that
<teDg> dholBacH: I tHink YOu'D hAve A bETteR FeEl fOR whAt works tHaN mE or seRgiuSENS
<Tedg> you ChooSe, we'lL follow :-)
<sergiuSenS> dhoLBacH, 16 utc sEems lIke a GoOd comPromisE catcH aLl
<dholbach> ok, let'S try It - if it doeSn't WoRk, wE'lL do soMEthing DifFerEnt
<dholBach> I'll SEnd OuT THE aNnounce Thu or Fri - thaT sHOUlD be good eNough
<sERgIuSEns> dholbAcH, we ShouLD BouncE the TImEs so evenTually EVeRyOne can jOiN
<dholbAcH> niCe oNe! let'S Talk About tHat on FriDay toO Then
 * ogra_ has lanNDing meeting on MOnDAYs AT 16:00 UTC
<SerGiusens> ogra_, You sTIll gO to tHOsE?
<ogRA_> yes
<sErgiuSeNS> oGRa_, wow, why? :-P
<ogra_> to help OuT with iMage bUild issues etc
<Ogra_> (and ansWER QuestionS aboUT pLUmbing which nobOdy elSe can answeR Anymore)
<sErgiuSens> dholBach, btw, diD YOu do your SnaPcrAft DpuT MAgIc?
<dholbach> oh oK, NO - wilL dO
<tedg> DiD we Ever add A loGs cOmmAnd To Snappy?
<dhoLbach> serGiUsEnS, hTtpS://launCHpad.net/uBuNtu/WiLy/+qUeue?qUEue_staTe=1&queUe_
g> If we go too early, peo ple have a n opp ort uni ty  tothin k up hard ques t ions .
<tedg> Need to keepthemon thee dg e.
<d holbach >  I ' m  no tsu reif th at sh oul d be areal conce rn.  : -)
<tedg> He h 
< dholbach>we' re going toget  those  h ard quest ion s soo n enou g h anyw ay :)
<te dg >  So I' m  not pa r t ic ular  on time. I guess it ' d depend on wh o we e xp e ct t heaud ience to b e. 
<ted g > 1400U T Ci s a b i t early for t he West Coa s t U S.
<dh ol bac h > ok
< tedg>  B u t,not sure if  we' re lookin g to i n clude t h ose fol ks ornot .
< dhol b ac h>  th el ate s tI c o uld  offer ( if  y ou wa nt m e i n  the reas w ell)is 16 UTC
<dh olb ach> tha t's E OD (o r ne ar -EOD)  for m ost E ur opeans, but I g uess  we could  do  t hat 
< tedg> dholba ch:  Ithink y ou'd ha v e a  b e t t er  feel for what wor ks t ha n me orsergiu s en s< tedg> Yo ucho ose, w e'llfoll o w:-)
<ser giusen s >dh olbach,  1 6 utcse ems  li ke ag oodcompro mise cat ch al l 
<dholbach> ok ,  let's try it -i f  i t  doe sn' t work, we' ll d o  som ethi n gdif f erent 
<dho lb a ch >  I'll send out thean nounce  Thuor Fri - that  should be g o od enoug h
<s e rg i usens> dholbac h, we  should bo u nce thetimes  so even tually ev e r yone can  jo in<dh olb a c h>  nice one! le t ' s ta lk  abouttha t on Fr ida y t oothe n * ogra_has lann di ng  m ee tin g onm ondays a t16: 00  UT C
<se r giusen s> og ra_,  y ou sti ll go t o  t h o se?<o gr a_>yes 
< sergi usen s > o gra_, w ow, why?:-P <ogr a_ >to help  out with ima ge  build iss ue s e tc
<og r a _> (andanswer questions aboutp lumbing  wh ich n obod y else ca n a nswerany m ore)
< sergiu sens>  d hol b a ch, b t w ,did  y ou do your s nap craft  d putmagic?<dholbach> oh ok,n o -  will do
<ted g>Didw e  e ver ad d  alo g s c o m mand to snappy? 
<dholbach >s er giusens, h t tps :/ /launch pad.net /ubun t u/wily/ +queue?qu eue_state =1 &que u e _
g> If_we go_too early, people have_an opportunity_to_think up_hard_questions.
<tedg> Need to_keep them on_the edge.
<dholbach> I'm not_sure if that_should_be a real concern. :-)
<tedg> Heh
<dholbach> we're going to get those hard questions soon_enough_anyway :)
<tedg>_So_I'm_not particular on time. I_guess it'd depend on who_we expect_the audience to be.
<tedg> 1400UTC is a bit_early_for the West_Coast US.
<dholbach> ok
<tedg> But, not sure if we're looking_to include those folks or not.
<dholbach>_the latest I_could_offer_(if you want me_in there as well) is 16_UTC
<dholbach> that's EOD (or near-EOD) for_most Europeans, but I guess we could_do that
<tedg> dholbach: I think you'd_have a better feel for_what works_than me or sergiusens
<tedg> You_choose, we'll follow_:-)
<sergiusens> dholbach,_16 utc seems_like a good compromise catch all
<dholbach>_ok, let's try_it - if it doesn't work,_we'll_do something different
<dholbach>_I'll_send_out the_announce Thu or_Fri_- that_should_be good enough
<sergiusens> dholbach, we should_bounce_the times so eventually everyone can join
<dholbach>_nice one! let's talk_about_that on Friday too_then
 * ogra_ has lannding_meeting on mondays at 16:00 UTC
<sergiusens>_ogra_, you_still go_to those?
<ogra_> yes
<sergiusens> ogra_, wow, why? :-P
<ogra_> to help out with_image build issues etc
<ogra_> (and answer_questions about plumbing which_nobody else_can_answer anymore)
<sergiusens> dholbach,_btw,_did you_do your snapcraft dput magic?
<dholbach> oh ok,_no -_will do
<tedg> Did we ever add_a logs command to_snappy?
<dholbach>_sergiusens, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_