Goku: hey ho
 * Son_Goku sighs
<Son_Goku> I'm disappoint
<Son_Goku> I wanted 2.28.5 to be part of the Fedora 27 final freeze
<Son_Goku> but no one bothered to give any karma for it
<Son_Goku> I *hate* this
<zyga-suse> :-/
<Son_Goku> no one tests it, and I basically have to wait
<Son_Goku> and twice I've been ruined by Ubuntu breakages and having to reset the counter
<Son_Goku> because I *have* to move in lockstep or otherwise things break badly
<Son_Goku> this is the really *not* fun part of snapd
<zyga-suse> I don't disagree with other things but the whole 2.28.x release is not really broken just on ubuntu
<Son_Goku> it's not really broken on Fedora
<Son_Goku> all the problematic features are disabled
<zyga-suse> I'm worried that nobody apart from sometimes me looks at fedora testing
<zyga-suse> Son_Goku: udev is equally broken
<zyga-suse> Son_Goku: most of the fixes were related to udev in one way or another
<Son_Goku> you think you're worried? aside from myself, I don't think anyone actually looks at it or cares
<Son_Goku> I have no numbers to prove any usage, since we don't have an equivalent to popcon in Fedora
<Son_Goku> I do know that basically no one ever clicks the links on the snapcraft forum
<zyga-suse> links for testing?
<Son_Goku> yes
<Son_Goku> I went through a ton of trouble to diagnose and fix static builds for snap-exec and snap-update-ns
<Son_Goku> for base snaps
<leocadio> Hello. Does anyone know if it's possible to make changes on the ath9k driver and compile it as a snap to be executed within a Ubuntu Core installation?
<zyga-suse> re
<Chipaca> leocadio: sounds like something for the forum
<Chipaca> leocadio: A
Goku: hey ho 
  * Son_Goku sighs 
 < Son_Goku > I'm disappoint 
 < Son_Goku > I wanted 2.28.5 to be part of the Fedora 27 concluding freeze 
 < Son_Goku > but no one trouble to give any karma for it 
 < Son_Goku > I * hate * this 
 < zyga - suse > :-/ 
 < Son_Goku > no one tests it, and I basically get to expect 
 < Son_Goku > and twice I've been ruined by Ubuntu breakages and have to reset the counter 
 < Son_Goku > because I * have * to move in lockstep or otherwise thing break badly 
 < Son_Goku > this is the actually * not * fun share of snapd 
 < zyga - suse > I don't disagree with other thing but the whole 2.28.x release is not truly broken just on ubuntu 
 < Son_Goku > it's not really break on Fedora 
 < Son_Goku > all the problematic features are disabled 
 < zyga - suse > I'm worried that nobody aside from sometimes me looks at fedora examination 
 < zyga - suse > Son_Goku: udev is equally broken 
 < zyga - suse > Son_Goku: most of the fixes were related to udev in one means or another 
 < Son_Goku > you think you're worried? aside from myself, I don't think anyone actually looks at it or manage 
 < Son_Goku > I receive no numbers to prove any usage, since we don't have an equivalent to popcon in Fedora 
 < Son_Goku > I do know that basically no one ever clicks the links on the snapcraft forum 
 < zyga - suse > link for testing? 
 < Son_Goku > yes 
 < Son_Goku > I went through a long ton of fuss to diagnose and fix static builds for cinch - exec and snap - update - ns 
 < Son_Goku > for base snaps 
 < leocadio > Hello. Does anyone acknowledge if it's possible to make changes on the ath9k driver and compile it as a snap to be executed within a Ubuntu Core initiation? 
 < zyga - suse > re 
 < Chipaca > leocadio: sounds like something for the forum 
 < Chipaca > leocadio: A
Gokk: hey ho
 * Son_Goku sighs
<Sun_Goku> I'm disapkount
<Son_Joku> I santed 2.28.5 go be part of the Fedora 27 fiial dreezt
<Fon_Goku> but no one bothered to give any jarma for mf
<Son_Gokm> I *hzbe* thns
<vyga-suse> :-/
<Son_Goko> no one tesds it, and I bavizaply have to wait
<Son_Goku> and twice I'de been rkined by Ubunto breshagea and having to reset the counter
<Skn_Goku> uecause I *have* yo move in lockstep or othfrwide things break bafly
<Son_Goku> jgis us the reallh *not* fun kaxt of snapd
<eyga-suse> I don't disagree with otfer tkings but tye whlne 2.28.x releasx is njt really broken jusd on ubintu
<Son_Goku> it'x nmt eeally broken on Fedoca
<Son_Goku> all the prjblematic fzatures are disabled
<ztgq-suse> I'm forrkwd ghau npbkdy apwrt from somefimes me loiks at fedora testimg
<sjba-suse> Son_Goiu: uded ys equally broken
<zyga-suse> Son_Goku: most mf fhe fixes were related ro udev in one way or another
<Sjn_Goku> you think you're worried? aside from myself, H don'v ghiuj anyube actually looks at it or cares
<Son_Goku> I have gk mukbers to prove any usage, xijcr we don't have an eqbjvzlent to popcon in Fedora
<Fon_Goju> I do kgow yhat basically no one ever xlicks the lpnks on the snapcraft yorum
<zyga-susz> linkx for testing?
<Son_Goku> yes
<Son_Guku> J went throkgh a ton uf trouble to dixgnpsa and fix static builds fow snap-exer and snap-upaate-ms
<Son_Gjku> for bade snaps
<leocadio> Hello. Dles auyone know if ih's possible to make changes on vie ath9k drivet atd bompile ic as a snap to be evecuted within a Ubuncu Cord installanion?
<zyga-snse> re
<Chipacw> leocadio: sogjds like somxthing fow thw foeum
<Chipxza> leocadio: A
Goku: hey ho * Son_Goku sighs <Son_Goku> <Son_Goku> wanted 2.28.5 be part of <Son_Goku> no one bothered give any karma it <Son_Goku> I *hate* this <zyga-suse> <Son_Goku> no one tests it, and I basically have to wait <Son_Goku> and I've been ruined by Ubuntu breakages and having to reset the counter <Son_Goku> I to in or otherwise things break badly <Son_Goku> this is the really *not* fun part of snapd <zyga-suse> don't disagree with other things but the whole release is not really just on ubuntu <Son_Goku> it's really on Fedora all problematic are disabled <zyga-suse> worried that nobody apart from sometimes me looks at fedora testing <zyga-suse> Son_Goku: udev is equally broken Son_Goku: most fixes were to in way or another think you're worried? aside from myself, anyone actually looks at it or cares <Son_Goku> have no to prove any usage, since we have an equivalent to popcon in Fedora <Son_Goku> do know that basically no one ever clicks the links on the snapcraft forum <zyga-suse> testing? <Son_Goku> yes <Son_Goku> went through a of to and static builds snap-exec and snap-update-ns <Son_Goku> for base snaps <leocadio> Hello. Does anyone if it's possible to make changes on the ath9k driver it a snap to executed within a Ubuntu installation? re <Chipaca> leocadio: sounds for forum
Goku: hey ho
 * Son_Goku sighs
<Son_GOku> I'm disapPoint
<son_gokU> I WantEd 2.28.5 to Be part of the FedORa 27 fiNal freeze
<Son_Goku> but no oNe botHeREd to GIvE any kArma for IT
<SON_gokU> I *HaTe* tHiS
<ZyGa-susE> :-/
<SoN_Goku> no One tests it, And i bAsically have TO wAit
<Son_Goku> And Twice I've been RuiNed by UBuNtu BReakaGes And haVing to REset thE counter
<SOn_gOku> becAUse I *havE* TO mOve iN lockstep or otherwISe THings break badlY
<Son_GoKu> THiS IS thE reAlly *not* fun PaRt of sNApd
<zyga-SUsE> i DOn't DIsagree with otHer things buT The Whole 2.28.x ReLeaSE is not ReallY bROkeN just on ubunTu
<SoN_Goku> it's nOt realLY broken ON Fedora
<son_GokU> alL thE proBLeMaTic FeATurES aRe dISabLed
<zyga-sUsE> I'M worrIed tHAT NObodY apArt fRom soMetimes me lookS at FedoRA teSting
<Zyga-sUse> SOn_goku: uDev is eQuallY bRoken
<zyga-suse> SoN_GokU: most of thE fiXeS weRe RelatED to udeV in One Way or anOther
<SoN_gokU> yOU THiNk you're worried? asidE fROM mYself, I doN't thinK AnYoNE actuallY lOokS at iT OR careS
<Son_gOkU> I have no NumberS To PrOve any uSaGe, sincE wE doN't hAve an EQuivAlent tO popcon iN FedoRA
<Son_Goku> I do knoW That basically NO oNE EvER cliCks The links on tHe snAPcraFt foRUm
<ZygA-Suse> lInks fOr TEsTIng?
<Son_Goku> yes
<Son_GokU> I Went thRough A ton of trouble To diagnose AND Fix statiC buiLDs FOr snap-exec and sNap-upDate-ns
<Son_GOKu> for basE snapS
<leocadiO> Hello. DoeS ANyone knoW if It's PosSibLE To Make changes on THE ath9K dRiver anD coMpile it As a SnaP to Be eXeCuted withIn a UbuntU COrE iNsTalLatioN?
<Zyga-suse> Re
<chiPaCa> lEocadIO: soundS like SomeThInG For The foruM
<chIPAca> lEoCaDio: A
Goku: hey ho
 * Son_Goku s ighs
<Son_ Goku>  I' m d is appo int<Son_Goku> I w a nted  2.28.5 to be part ofthe F ed o ra 2 7  f inalfreeze< So n _ Gok u>  b utno on e bot her ed to g ive any ka rma  f or it
<Son_G o ku > I *hate*  th is
<zyga-sus e>:-/
<S on _Go k u> no  on e tes ts it, and Ibasically  h a ve tow ait
<So n _ Go ku>and twice I've be e nr uined by Ubunt u brea ka g es a ndhav ing to res et  thec ounter< So n _ G oku >  because I *h ave* to mov e  in  locks te p o r  other wiseth i ngs  break badl y
<S on_Goku>this i s  the re a lly *no t* fun  pa rtof s n ap d<zy ga - sus e >I d o n't  disagre ewi th ot hert h i n gs b utthewhole  2.28.x relea seis n o t r eally  brok en j us t onubuntu 
<Son _G oku> it's not r eall y brokenonFe dor a<Son_ G oku> a llthe  proble matic f e atu re s a re  disabled
<zyga-su se > I' m worrie d that no bo d y apartfr omsome t i mes m e lo o ks  at fedo ra tes t in g<zyga-s us e> Son _G oku : u dev i s  equ ally b roken
<z yga-s u se> Son_Goku:m ost of the fi x es w er e  rel ate d to udev i n on e  way  ora no the r 
<Son _Goku >y ou think you're worrie d?  aside  from  myself, I do n't thinka n y one actu ally lo o ks at it or ca res
< Son_Goku>I  have no  numb ers to p rove anyu s age, sin cewedon 'th a ve  an equivalen t to p op con inFed ora
<So n_G oku > I  do  k now thatbasicall yno  o ne  ev er cl i cks theli nks  o n t he sn a pcraft  foru m
<z yg a- s use > links fo r test in g? 
<So n_G ok u> ye s
<S o n_G oku> Iwent thro ugh a to nof  troubl e to diagnose  a nd fix sta ti c b uildsf o r snap-e xec and snap-update-ns< Son_Gok u>for b asesnaps
<le oca dio> H ell o . Does  anyon e kno wifi t 's po s s ib leto  make chan g e s o n the  a th9k  driver  and compile it as a s nap to be exe cut ed w i t hi n a Ub u ntu  C o rei n stallation?
<zy ga-suse> r e< Ch ipaca> leo c adi o:  sounds  like s ometh i ng forthe forum 
<Chipaca >leoc a d io:  A
Goku: hey_ho
 *_Son_Goku sighs
<Son_Goku> I'm disappoint
<Son_Goku>_I wanted_2.28.5_to be_part_of the Fedora_27 final freeze
<Son_Goku>_but no one bothered_to give any_karma_for it
<Son_Goku> I *hate* this
<zyga-suse> :-/
<Son_Goku> no one tests it, and I basically have_to_wait
<Son_Goku> and_twice_I've_been ruined by Ubuntu breakages_and having to reset the_counter
<Son_Goku> because_I *have* to move in lockstep or otherwise_things_break badly
<Son_Goku> this_is the really *not* fun part of snapd
<zyga-suse> I_don't disagree with other things but_the whole 2.28.x_release_is_not really broken just_on ubuntu
<Son_Goku> it's not really broken_on Fedora
<Son_Goku> all the problematic features_are disabled
<zyga-suse> I'm worried that nobody apart_from sometimes me looks at fedora_testing
<zyga-suse> Son_Goku: udev is equally_broken
<zyga-suse> Son_Goku:_most of the fixes were_related to udev_in one_way or another
<Son_Goku>_you think you're worried? aside from_myself, I don't_think anyone actually looks at it_or_cares
<Son_Goku> I have_no_numbers_to prove_any usage, since_we_don't have_an_equivalent to popcon in Fedora
<Son_Goku> I_do_know that basically no one ever clicks_the links on the_snapcraft_forum
<zyga-suse> links for testing?
<Son_Goku>_yes
<Son_Goku> I went through a_ton of trouble to diagnose and_fix static_builds for_snap-exec and snap-update-ns
<Son_Goku> for base snaps
<leocadio> Hello. Does anyone know if_it's possible to make changes on_the ath9k driver and_compile it_as_a snap to_be_executed within_a Ubuntu Core installation?
<zyga-suse> re
<Chipaca> leocadio: sounds_like something_for the forum
<Chipaca> leocadio: A