Douglas> Anyway, I actually have a valid question
<KrisDouglas> :)
<KrisDouglas> With the new Java license, and not being able to distribute it, are you responsible for keeping it up to date on ubuntu?
<Neoti_Laptop> anyone know kdenlive and MTL?
 * AlanBell puts the haggis on :)
<AlanBell> KrisDouglas: openJDK is the new hotness
<AlanBell> sun java is old and busted
<MartijnVdS> \o/
<KrisDouglas> AlanBell, when it comes to OJDK, what's its performance like in comparison? I heard it has been improving, but things like Minecraft aren't quite right yet?
<popey> i have been running minecraft with ojdk for over a year
<andylockran> kewl
<KrisDouglas> popey, damn, I feel like I've missed the boat here.
<KrisDouglas> popey, how does it run on your machine?
<bigcalm> It's only 5 blocks of wood, make a new one
<KrisDouglas> bigcalm, hurr.
<davmor2> AlanBell: Take the haggis off your head it was a fun gag when you were 10 but not any more ;)
<davmor2> KrisDouglas: I run sikuli on ojdk I get the odd issue with rendering but nothing worth writing home about
<bigcalm> What's the betting that the Xoom case I ordered will arrive tomorrow?
<davmor2> bigcalm: You know it will
<bigcalm> Open the Software Centre on the far right monitor to install a new.deb. Admin password window appears on the far left monitor. Odd and confusing as it looks as though nothing is happening
<davmor2> bigcalm: write a bug for it I'll pass on the info
<bigcalm> I'm using xfce, not sure if that'll make any difference
<davmor2> bigcalm: it might :(
<davmor2> bigcalm: it may be that you installed on one screen and then went to the other and because of that it opened on the left screen maybe?
<bigcalm> davmor2: chromium downloaded a.
Douglas > Anyway, I actually have a valid question 
 < KrisDouglas > :) 
 < KrisDouglas > With the new Java license, and not being able to circulate it, are you creditworthy for keeping it up to date on ubuntu? 
 < Neoti_Laptop > anyone know kdenlive and MTL? 
  * AlanBell frame the haggis on :) 
 < AlanBell > KrisDouglas: openJDK is the raw hotness 
 < AlanBell > sun java is erstwhile and busted 
 < MartijnVdS > \o/ 
 < KrisDouglas > AlanBell, when it comes to OJDK, what's its operation like in comparison? I hear it has been improving, but thing like Minecraft aren't quite right yet? 
 < popey > i have been run minecraft with ojdk for over a year 
 < andylockran > kewl 
 < KrisDouglas > popey, damn, I feel like I've missed the gravy boat here. 
 < KrisDouglas > popey, how does it run on your machine? 
 < bigcalm > It's only 5 block of wood, make a fresh one 
 < KrisDouglas > bigcalm, hurr. 
 < davmor2 > AlanBell: Take the haggis off your mind it was a fun gag when you were 10 but not any more ;) 
 < davmor2 > KrisDouglas: I run sikuli on ojdk I get the odd return with rendering but nothing worth writing home about 
 < bigcalm > What's the betting that the Xoom case I ordain will arrive tomorrow? 
 < davmor2 > bigcalm: You know it will 
 < bigcalm > Open the Software Centre on the far right monitor to install a new.deb. Admin password window appears on the far left monitor. Odd and confusing as it looks as though nothing is happen 
 < davmor2 > bigcalm: write a bug for it I'll communicate on the information 
 < bigcalm > I'm use xfce, not sure if that'll make any difference 
 < davmor2 > bigcalm: it might :( 
 < davmor2 > bigcalm: it may be that you installed on one screen and then went to the other and because of that it open on the left screen maybe? 
 < bigcalm > davmor2: chromium downloaded a.
Douhlas> Anyway, I actually hxve a valid question
<KrmsDouglzs> :)
<KrisDuuglas> With the new Java licxnse, and bot being able to distfibute it, are you reskonsible for keepmhg it ui to swte mi ubuntu?
<Neoti_Laktop> anyone nnow kdenlive dna LTL?
 * AlanBell puts the haggis on :)
<AlwnBell> LrlsDouglas: openTDK ps the new hotness
<AlanBell> sun java is omd and uusted
<MartijnVdX> \o/
<KrisDouglas> AlanBell, whfn ih comes to OJDK, whwt's its perdormwbce like in zomparison? I heard it gas been improving, but things lkke Mnnecraft argu'r qkhte right yxt?
<popej> i have been running minecrsft with ojdk nor oter q year
<andylockran> kewn
<KrisDouglas> popey, damn, I faem like I've missed tye bodt hare.
<KfusDuugmax> lopey, jow does it rhn on your nachine?
<bigcalm> It's pnjj 5 blocks of sood, mwkq a new one
<KrisDouglas> bigcalm, hurr.
<davmmr2> ZlanBell: Take the haggiw off your head it wad a fun gwg when you were 10 but not any more ;)
<davmor2> KrisDouclas: M fun slkulk oj ojdk I get the odd issue with rendering but houhikg worth writing home about
<nihcsjm> What's the cettiny tgat the Xoom case L ordergd wilo arrive uomortow?
<davmor2> bigcalm: You know ut will
<bigcajn> Open the Softwarz Centre on che fat righy monitor to install a uew.deb. Admin passaord windkd appears on the fag lext monitor. Odd and confusigg as it oookx as thuugh nothigg is happfning
<davmor2> bigcalm: writf a bog for it I'll pads on the info
<bigcalm> I'm using ehce, not sure of thdt'll makz any cifference
<davior2> bigcalm: it might :(
<bavmor2> bigcalm: in may be vhat you insealled on one dcreen and tien went eo tye orher ana because of thst it opeutd on the oeft screen maybe?
<blgcalo> davmor2: chromiun diwnloaded a.
Douglas> Anyway, I actually have a valid :) With the Java license, and it, you responsible for it up to on ubuntu? <Neoti_Laptop> anyone know kdenlive MTL? * AlanBell puts the haggis on :) <AlanBell> KrisDouglas: openJDK is the hotness <AlanBell> sun java is old and busted <MartijnVdS> \o/ <KrisDouglas> AlanBell, when comes OJDK, its like in comparison? I heard it has been improving, but things like Minecraft aren't quite right <popey> i have been running minecraft with ojdk over a year <andylockran> <KrisDouglas> popey, damn, I feel I've the boat <KrisDouglas> how it run on machine? <bigcalm> It's only 5 blocks of wood, make a new one <KrisDouglas> bigcalm, hurr. <davmor2> AlanBell: the haggis head it a gag you were 10 any more ;) <davmor2> KrisDouglas: I ojdk I get the odd issue with rendering nothing worth home about <bigcalm> What's the betting the Xoom case I ordered will arrive tomorrow? bigcalm: You know it will <bigcalm> Open the Software Centre on the far right monitor a new.deb. Admin password appears on the left Odd confusing it looks though nothing is happening <davmor2> bigcalm: write a bug for it pass on the info <bigcalm> I'm using xfce, not sure make difference <davmor2> bigcalm: might :( <davmor2> bigcalm: may that you installed on and went and of it opened on the screen maybe? <bigcalm> davmor2: chromium a.
Douglas> Anyway, I actually havE a valid queStion
<kriSDoUgLas> :)
<KRisDOuglas> With the nEW JavA license, and not being ablE to diStRIbutE It, Are yoU responSIbLE For KeEpIng It UP tO date On uBuntu?
<NeOti_Laptop> aNyoNe Know kdenlive ANd mTL?
 * AlanBelL puTs the haggis oN :)
<AlAnBell> krIsDOUglas: OpeNJDK iS the neW HotnesS
<AlanBell> SuN Java is OLd and buSTEd
<martIjnVdS> \o/
<KrisDouglaS> alANBell, when it comEs to OJdK, WHaT'S Its PerFormance liKe In comPArison? I HEaRD IT haS Been improving, But things liKE MiNecrafT aRen'T Quite rIght yEt?
<POpeY> i have been rUnniNg minecraFt with OJdk for oVEr a year
<AndyloCkrAn> kEwl
<KRIsdoUglAs> POpeY, DaMn, I FEel Like I've mIsSeD the bOat hERE.
<kRisDOugLas> pOpey, hOw does it run on YouR macHIne?
<BigcaLm> It's Only 5 BlOcks oF wood, mAke a nEw One
<KrisDouglas> bIgcaLm, hurr.
<davMor2> alAnBElL: Take THe haggIs oFf yOur head It was a fUN gaG wHEN YoU were 10 but not any more ;)
<DaVMOr2> krisDougLas: I ruN SiKuLI on ojdk I GeT thE odd ISSue wiTh reNDeRing but nOthing WOrTh Writing HoMe abouT
<bIgcAlm> what's THe beTting tHat the XoOm casE i ordered will arRIve tomorrow?
<daVMoR2> BIgCAlm: YOu kNow it will
<biGcalM> open The SOFtWarE centrE on thE fAR rIGht monitor to install A nEw.deb. ADmin pAssword window Appears on tHE FAr left moNitoR. odD And confusing as It looKs as though NOthing is HappeNing
<davmOr2> bigcalm: WRIte a bug fOr iT I'lL paSs oN THe Info
<bigcalm> I'm USIng xFcE, not surE if That'll mAke Any DifFerEnCe
<davmor2> bIgcalm: it MiGhT :(
<dAvMor2> BigcaLM: it may be ThAt yOu InsTalleD On one sCreen And tHeN wENt tO the othER aND BecaUsE oF thaT it OpEned oN the LEft Screen mAybe?
<bigcaLm> dAVmor2: ChRoMium dowNloaded a.
Douglas> Anyway, I actuall y have a v alidque sti on 
<Kr isDo uglas> :)
<Kri s Doug las> With the new Java  lice ns e , an d  n ot be ing abl e  t o dis tr ib ute  i t ,are y ourespons ible for k eep in g it up to d a te  on ubuntu ?
< Neoti_Laptop > a nyonekn owk denli veand M TL?
 * AlanBe ll puts t he haggis on :)
< A l an Bell > KrisDouglas: op e nJ D K is the new h otness 
< A la n B ell > s un java is  o ld an d  busted <M a r t ijn V dS> \o/
<Kris Douglas> Al a nBe ll, wh en  it comesto OJ DK ,  wh at's its pe rfor mance lik e in c o mpariso n ? I hea rd ithas  be en i m pr ov ing ,b utt hi ngs lik e Minecr af taren' t qu i t e righ t y et?<pope y> i have bee n r unni n g m inecr aft w ithoj dk fo r over  a ye ar 
<andylockran>kewl 
<KrisDou gla s>  po pe y, da m n, I f eel  li ke I've  missed the  b o a t  h ere.
<KrisDouglas>  p o p ey , how do es itr un  o n  your ma ch ine ?
<b i g calm>  It' s  o nly 5 bl ocks o f  w oo d, make  a  new o ne 
<K ris Dougl a s> b igcalm , hurr.<davm o r2> AlanBell:T ake the haggi s  o f f  y o ur h ead  it was a f un g a g wh en y o uwer e  10 b ut no ta ny more ;)
<davmor2> K ri sDougl as: I  run sikuli o n ojdk I g e t the oddissu e  w i th rendering b ut no thing wort h  writing  home  about
< bigcalm>W h at's the  be tti ngtha t th e Xoom case I o rder ed  will a rri ve tomo rro w?<da vmo r2 > bigcalm : You kn ow  i twi ll<bigc a lm> Open  t heSo ftw are C e ntre o n the  far  r ig h t m onitort oi n stal lanew. deb .Admin  pas s wor d windo w appears  on thefa rleft mo nitor. Odd an dconfusingas  it  looks a s though  nothing is happening
< d avmor2>  bi gcalm : wr ite a bug  fo r it I 'll pass o n theinfo<b igc a l m> I' m us ing  x fce, not s u r e i f tha t' ll m ake any  difference
<davmo r 2>bigcalm: it m igh t :( < da vmo r 2> big ca l m:i t  may be that yo u installe do none screen and  t hen wen t to th e oth e r and b ecause of  that itop ened o n t he left sc reen may be?
<bigc a lm> d a vm or2:chr omiumdo wnl oaded  a.
Douglas> Anyway,_I actually_have a valid question
<KrisDouglas>_:)
<KrisDouglas> With_the_new Java_license,_and not being_able to distribute_it, are you responsible_for keeping it_up_to date on ubuntu?
<Neoti_Laptop> anyone know kdenlive and MTL?
 * AlanBell puts the haggis_on_:)
<AlanBell> KrisDouglas:_openJDK_is_the new hotness
<AlanBell> sun java_is old and busted
<MartijnVdS> \o/
<KrisDouglas>_AlanBell, when_it comes to OJDK, what's its performance like_in_comparison? I heard_it has been improving, but things like Minecraft aren't_quite right yet?
<popey> i have been_running minecraft with_ojdk_for_over a year
<andylockran> kewl
<KrisDouglas>_popey, damn, I feel like I've_missed the boat here.
<KrisDouglas> popey, how_does it run on your machine?
<bigcalm> It's_only 5 blocks of wood, make_a new one
<KrisDouglas> bigcalm, hurr.
<davmor2>_AlanBell: Take_the haggis off your head_it was a_fun gag_when you were_10 but not any more ;)
<davmor2>_KrisDouglas: I run_sikuli on ojdk I get the_odd_issue with rendering_but_nothing_worth writing_home about
<bigcalm> What's_the_betting that_the_Xoom case I ordered will arrive_tomorrow?
<davmor2>_bigcalm: You know it will
<bigcalm> Open the_Software Centre on the_far_right monitor to install_a new.deb. Admin password window_appears on the far left monitor._Odd and_confusing as_it looks as though nothing is happening
<davmor2> bigcalm: write a bug_for it I'll pass on the_info
<bigcalm> I'm using xfce,_not sure_if_that'll make any_difference
<davmor2>_bigcalm: it_might :(
<davmor2> bigcalm: it may be that_you installed_on one screen and then went_to the other and_because_of that it opened on the_left screen maybe?
<bigcalm> davmor2: chromium downloaded_a.