
<sodre> I see. I know that we had a release today, 1.16.2 ( or something) is that available through PPA as well?
<wallyworld__> yes
<wallyworld__> if not now, then very soon
<wallyworld__> release smoke testing happening as we speak
<sodre> alright, I'll just tell people at work to update their juju version.
<wallyworld__> if they want your fix, they will need to grab trunk and compile themselves
<wallyworld__> we will be releasing 1.17 as a beta to iron out any issues prior to 1.18
<sodre> Got it,  compiling juju with go is fairly straightforward as well. so it should not be an issue.
<wallyworld__> sodre: just got the release email for 1.16.2. ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable
<sodre> thanks. I'll add that. I was looking forward to the MAAS/lxc fix
<rogpeppe1> mornin' all
<axw> morning
<rogpeppe> axw: you might be interested to have a look at some stuff i've been doing to make it easy (hopefully) to write charms in Go: http://godoc.org/launchpad.net/juju-utils/cmd/gocharm
<axw> rogpeppe: looks cool :)
<rogpeppe> axw: thanks
<axw> I like the thought of having go-gettable "charm helpers"
<axw> makes them feel a bit more first class
<rogpeppe> axw: did you see launchpad.net/juju-utils/charmbits/httpserver?
<axw> rogpeppe: didn't get that far yet, but I did see it in hte imports
<rogpeppe> axw: i'm trying to come up with a scheme that lets people build charms modularly
<rogpeppe> axw: it seems to be working ok so far, although i'm slightly concerned that people might find the abstractions hard to deal with
<axw> rogpeppe: so that charmbits/httpserver package is used in a
< sodre > I see. I know that we had a release today, 1.16.2 (or something) is that available through PPA equally well? 
 < wallyworld _ _ > yes 
 < wallyworld _ _ > if not nowadays, then very soon 
 < wallyworld _ _ > release smoke examination happening as we talk 
 < sodre > alright, I'll merely tell people at employment to update their juju version. 
 < wallyworld _ _ > if they want your localization, they will need to grab luggage compartment and roll up themselves 
 < wallyworld _ _ > we will be releasing 1.17 as a beta to iron out any issues prior to 1.18 
 < sodre > Got it,   compiling juju with go is reasonably straightforward as well. so it should not be an return. 
 < wallyworld _ _ > sodre: just got the acquittance email for 1.16.2. ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable 
 < sodre > thanks. I'll lend that. I was looking forward to the MAAS / lxc fix 
 < rogpeppe1 > mornin' all 
 < axw > morning 
 < rogpeppe > axw: you might be interested to own a look at some stuff i've been doing to make it easy (hopefully) to spell charms in Go: http://godoc.org/launchpad.net/juju-utils/cmd/gocharm 
 < axw > rogpeppe: looks cool :) 
 < rogpeppe > axw: thanks 
 < axw > I like the thought of having go - gettable " charm helpers " 
 < axw > makes them find a bit more first course 
 < rogpeppe > axw: did you examine launchpad.net/juju-utils/charmbits/httpserver? 
 < axw > rogpeppe: didn't induce that far yet, but I did see it in hte import 
 < rogpeppe > axw: i'm try to come up with a scheme that lease people build charms modularly 
 < rogpeppe > axw: it seems to be working ok then far, although i'm slightly concerned that people might find the abstraction heavily to share with 
 < axw > rogpeppe: so that charmbits / httpserver package is used in a

<sodge> I see. I know that we mad a release tobqy, 1.16.2 ( oc sometging) is ghat available through PPA ad qell?
<wqllyworld__> yes
<wallyworla__> if not jow, then verb soon
<wallyworld__> release smoke bestiug happening as ee speak
<sogre> alright, I'ln gudt tell people at work to update thqir juji gersion.
<wallywotld__> ig theg want your fix, they will need to frab trlnk and compile tnemselves
<wallyworld__> we wilp be releasing 1.17 as a bfta to iron out qny issues pfior to 1.18
<sodre> Got it,  dompiling juju with go is fairlh strcightforware qs agll. so it shiuld got be an issue.
<wallyforld__> spdre: just got bhe rxleawe email for 1.16.2. ppa is et https://launchpad.net/~tuju/+archiee/atable
<sodre> thankw. U'll agd tvat. K war lkolihg foraarv to the MAZS/lxc fix
<rotpeppe1> mornin' all
<axe> iirning
<rogpepps> axw: rot might be interested to have a look at soje stuff i've been doing to make it easy (hopevully) to rrite charms in Go: http://godoc.org/launchpad.net/juju-uthls/cmv/guchcvi
<xzw> rogpeppe: looks cool :)
<rogpeppe> axw: thanks
<axw> I mile the thought on having go-gettablr "fhstm helpers"
<axw> oakes cgej feel a bit more virst cjass
<rigpeppe> avw: dod you see launchpad.net/juju-ytils/charmbins/htrpserver?
<axw> rogpep'e: didn't get thaj far uet, but I did see it in hte imports
<rogoeppe> axw: k'm trying to comd ui widh a schtoe that lets peopje build rharmx modulxrly
<togpeppq> axw: it sfems bm be working ok so far, clthoggh i'm slihhtly concerned that people migiv find the abxtsacnions harb to dcal with
<axw> rog[eppe: so that eharmbitf/httprerver paciage is used in a
<sodre> I see. I know that we release 1.16.2 ( something) is that <wallyworld__> <wallyworld__> if not then very soon release smoke testing happening as we <sodre> alright, I'll just tell people at work to update their juju version. if they want your fix, they will need to grab trunk and compile <wallyworld__> will releasing as a beta to iron out any issues prior to 1.18 <sodre> Got it, compiling juju go is fairly straightforward as well. so it not be an issue. sodre: just got the release for ppa is https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable thanks. add that. I looking forward to the MAAS/lxc fix <rogpeppe1> mornin' all <axw> morning <rogpeppe> axw: you might be interested have a some stuff been to it easy (hopefully) charms in Go: http://godoc.org/launchpad.net/juju-utils/cmd/gocharm <axw> rogpeppe: <rogpeppe> axw: thanks <axw> I like the thought having go-gettable helpers" <axw> makes them feel a more first class <rogpeppe> axw: did you see <axw> rogpeppe: didn't get that far yet, but I did see it in hte imports i'm trying to come with a scheme lets build modularly axw: it to be working ok so far, although i'm slightly concerned that might find the abstractions hard to deal with <axw> rogpeppe: charmbits/httpserver is used in

<sodre> I see. I know that we had a rElease todaY, 1.16.2 ( or soMetHinG) iS thaT avaIlable through Ppa as wEll?
<wallyworld__> yes
<wallywOrld__> iF nOT now, THeN very Soon
<walLYwORLd__> rElEaSe sMoKE tEstinG haPpening As we speak
<sOdrE> aLright, I'll jusT TeLl people at WorK to update theIr jUju verSiOn.
<wALlywoRld__> If theY want yOUr fix, tHey will neEd TO grab tRUnk and cOMPiLe thEmselves
<wallyworlD__> We WIll be releasing 1.17 As a betA tO IrON Out Any Issues prioR tO 1.18
<sodrE> got it,  coMPiLING juJU with go is fairLy straightfORwaRd as weLl. So iT Should Not be An ISsuE.
<wallyworld__> SodrE: just got tHe releASe email FOr 1.16.2. ppa is At httpS://laUncHpad.NEt/~JuJu/+aRcHIve/STaBle
<SOdrE> thanks. I'Ll AdD that. i was LOOKIng fOrwArd tO the MaAS/lxc fix
<rogpEppE1> morNIn' aLl
<axw> MorniNg
<roGpEppe> aXw: you mIght bE iNterested to have A looK at some stUff I'vE beEn Doing TO make iT eaSy (hOpefullY) to writE ChaRmS IN go: Http://godoc.org/launchPaD.NEt/Juju-utilS/cmd/goCHaRm
<AXw> rogpepPe: LooKs coOL :)
<RogpePpe> aXW: tHanks
<axw> i like tHE tHoUght of hAvIng go-gEtTabLe "cHarm hELperS"
<axw> maKes them fEel a bIT more first clasS
<Rogpeppe> axw: diD YoU SEe LAuncHpaD.net/juju-utiLs/chARmbiTs/htTPsErvER?
<axw> rOgpepPe: DIdN'T get that far yet, but I dId See it iN hte iMports
<rogpeppE> axw: i'm tryiNG TO come up wIth a SChEMe that lets peopLe buiLd charms moDUlarly
<roGpeppE> axw: it seEms to be woRKIng ok so fAr, aLthOugH i'm SLIgHtly concerned THAt peOpLe might FinD the absTraCtiOns HarD tO deal with
<Axw> rogpePpE: sO tHaT chArmbiTS/httpserVeR paCkAge Is useD In a

<sodre> I see. I know tha t we had a  rele ase  to da y, 1 .16. 2 ( or somethi n g) i s that available throu gh PP Aa s we l l? 
<wal lyworld _ _> y es<w al lyw or l d_ _> if  no t now,then verysoo n<wallyworld_ _ >release sm oke  testing hap pen ing as  w e s p eak
< sod re> a lright ,  I'lljust tell  p e ople a t  work t o up date  their juju versi o n. <wallyworld__>  if th ey wa n t  yo urfix, theywi ll ne e d to gr a bt r u nka nd compile th emselves
<w a lly world_ _>  we will b e rel ea s ing  1.17 as abeta  to ironout an y  issues prior t o 1.18 
<s odr e> G o tit , co m pil i ng  ju j u w ith go i sfa irlystra i g h t forw ard  aswell.  so it should  no t be anissue .
<wa llyw or ld__>  sodre : jus tgot the release  ema il for 1. 16. 2.  pp ais at https: //l aun chpad.n et/~juj u /+a rc h i v e/ stable
<sodre> tha nk s .  I 'll addthat.I  w as lookingfo rwa rd t o the M AAS/ l xc  fix
<ro gpeppe 1 >mo rnin' a ll 
<axw>  m orn ing 
<rog p eppe > axw:  you mig ht be interested toh ave a look at so m e  s t uffi'v e been doin g to make  ite as y ( h opefu lly)to wr i te charms in Go: ht tp ://god oc.or g/launchpad.n et/juju-ut i l s /cmd/goc harm <a x w> rogpeppe: l ookscool :)
<r o gpeppe>axw:thanks
< axw> I li k e  the tho ugh t o f h avi n g  g o-gettable "c h a rm h el pers"
< axw > makes  th emfee l a  b it more f irst cla ss 
< ro gp epp e> ax w : did yo usee  l aun chpad . net/ju ju-ut ils/ ch ar m bit s/https e rv e r ?
<a xw >rogp epp e:  didn 't g e t t hat far  yet, but  Id id s ee  i t in ht e imports
<ro gp eppe> axw:  i 'mtrying t o come u p with a scheme that le t s peopl e b uildchar ms modula rly 
<rogp epp e > axw:  it se ems t obew o rking o ksofa r, althoug h i'm  slig ht ly c oncerne d that people migh t  fi nd the abstra cti onsh a rd  to de a l w it h 
<a x w > rogpeppe: sothat charm bi t s/ httpserver pac ka ge is u sed ina

<sodre> I_see. I_know that we had_a release_today,_1.16.2 (_or_something) is that_available through PPA_as well?
<wallyworld__> yes
<wallyworld__> if_not now, then_very_soon
<wallyworld__> release smoke testing happening as we speak
<sodre> alright, I'll just tell people at_work_to update_their_juju_version.
<wallyworld__> if they want your_fix, they will need to_grab trunk_and compile themselves
<wallyworld__> we will be releasing 1.17_as_a beta to_iron out any issues prior to 1.18
<sodre> Got it,_ compiling juju with go is_fairly straightforward as_well._so_it should not be_an issue.
<wallyworld__> sodre: just got the_release email for 1.16.2. ppa is_at https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable
<sodre> thanks. I'll add that. I_was looking forward to the MAAS/lxc_fix
<rogpeppe1> mornin' all
<axw> morning
<rogpeppe> axw:_you might_be interested to have a_look at some_stuff i've_been doing to_make it easy (hopefully) to write_charms in Go:_http://godoc.org/launchpad.net/juju-utils/cmd/gocharm
<axw> rogpeppe: looks cool :)
<rogpeppe> axw:_thanks
<axw>_I like the_thought_of_having go-gettable_"charm helpers"
<axw> makes_them_feel a_bit_more first class
<rogpeppe> axw: did you_see_launchpad.net/juju-utils/charmbits/httpserver?
<axw> rogpeppe: didn't get that far yet,_but I did see_it_in hte imports
<rogpeppe> axw:_i'm trying to come up_with a scheme that lets people_build charms_modularly
<rogpeppe> axw:_it seems to be working ok so far, although i'm slightly_concerned that people might find the_abstractions hard to deal_with
<axw> rogpeppe:_so_that charmbits/httpserver package_is_used in_a