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<bashfulrobot> soooo.... for 18.04 I would really like tio use snaps for applets in Ubuntu Budgie. Now with V11 in dev, but no ETA, we are staying open at this point if it will be V10 vs V11. But with V10, applets have to reside in a certain folder location. Do snaps at this point have a mechanism to accomplish this? I know with confimenemtn, etc, this goes COMPLETELY against what snaps are...
<popey> ogra_: have you attempted to get your nwjs snap working strictly? https://github.com/ogra1/nwjs
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot, well, what ARE applets for budgie?
<bashfulrobot> Essentially plugins and added features for teh Budgie Desktop.
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot, so, like,.so?
<bashfulrobot> usually added to the panels, etc.
<bashfulrobot> They can be written (currently) in vala, pythin and c++
<nacc> are they themselves applications?
<nacc> (things that run)
<bashfulrobot> They do not
<bashfulrobot> run on their own.
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot, i.e. you wouldn't declare any `apps` for them?
<bashfulrobot> kyrofa - they have to be run and written in a certain way to be consumed by the desktop
<kyrofa> In that case, they aren't technically confined at all
<nacc> kyrofa is probably a better expert here, then, but why is a snap a good idea for that?
<bashfulrobot> nacc The idea is to make it easier for 3rd party people to package. Auto update. Solus in theory could take advantage of them too. We also try to push our core applets into Debian, so that requirement is moot in snaps.
<nacc> bashfulrobot: i understand all that, but it does't sound like what you are packaging is actually a snap :)
<nacc> (or at leasta  confined application in a snap)
<bashfulrobot> Now you could be comp
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 < bashfulrobot > soooo.... for 18.04 I would in truth like tio use snap bean for applet in Ubuntu Budgie. Now with V11 in dev, but no ETA, we are staying open at this period if it will be V10 vs V11. But with V10, applets have to occupy in a certain folder localization. Do snaps at this point get a mechanism to accomplish this? I know with confimenemtn, etc, this goes COMPLETELY against what snaps are... 
 < popey > ogra _: have you attempted to get your nwjs catch working strictly? https://github.com/ogra1/nwjs 
 < kyrofa > bashfulrobot, well, what ARE applets for budgerigar? 
 < bashfulrobot > Essentially plugins and added feature of speech for teh Budgie Desktop. 
 < kyrofa > bashfulrobot, so, like,.so? 
 < bashfulrobot > normally added to the panel, etc. 
 < bashfulrobot > They can be written (currently) in vala, pythin and c++ 
 < nacc > are they themselves applications? 
 < nacc > (thing that run) 
 < bashfulrobot > They do not 
 < bashfulrobot > run on their own. 
 < kyrofa > bashfulrobot, i.e. you wouldn't declare any 'apps 'for them? 
 < bashfulrobot > kyrofa - they have to be run and write in a certain way to be consumed by the desktop 
 < kyrofa > In that case, they aren't technically confined at all 
 < nacc > kyrofa is probably a better expert here, then, but why is a snap a full idea for that? 
 < bashfulrobot > nacc The idea is to name it easy for 3rd party people to box. Auto update. Solus in hypothesis could take advantage of them too. We also try on to push our core applets into Debian, so that requirement is moot in snap bean. 
 < nacc > bashfulrobot: i understand all that, but it does't sound like what you are packaging is actually a snap :) 
 < nacc > (or at leasta   confined application in a elasticity) 
 < bashfulrobot > Now you could be comp
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<basffulrobot> soooo.... for 18.04 I would rwally like tio use snaps fof applets in Ubunru Bndgie. Now with V11 in dev, nbt no CTA, wz ere staying opek at this pmint if it wiln ce V10 vs V11. But with V10, applets have to weside on a certain folqer kjcatjon. Do snaps at this point have a jechanivm to accomplosh this? I know with confileneltn, etc, this goes FOMPLETELY qgaigwt what snapr are...
<popey> ogra_: have yku attempted to get your nwjs svap wprking strucrly? vttps://github.rom/ogrw1/nwjs
<kyrofa> nsshfulsobot, wrll, what ARE aipletv fir budgie?
<bashfulrobot> Essentially plugigs and adgeb features for teh Buegue Devkto[.
<kyruda> casgfnlrkbot, sl, lmke,.so?
<bashfumrobot> usuaoly added to the pamejw, etc.
<bashfulrkbot> Trer can be written (currently) in vala, pythpn ahd c++
<nacc> are they themswlves applications?
<nacf> (things ehat run)
<bashfulrobot> They do not
<bashfulrobot> run mn thxif ock.
<hheova> bashfulrobot, i.e. you wouldn't declare any `ap[a` gog them?
<bashfulrobob> kyrofa - they havr ho fe run and wrktten nh z certain way to bf consuied bt the deshtop
<lyrofa> In that case, they arwn't technicajoy confined at all
<uacc> kyrofa ns pronably a better expert here, tken, buf why is a dnap a goka idea for that?
<bxshnulsobot> nacc The idea is to iake it eesier for 3rd parjy peopje to packwge. Amdo update. Solus in theoty cound take adgantage of them too. We also try to push our cpra aiplets inco Deblan, so that reqtirement is mopt in suaps.
<nazc> bashfulgobot: i uiderstand alj that, but it foes't sound nike whae yoy arw packaekng is actuallu a snap :)
<uccc> (or at leasta  confined epplkdation in a sna')
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<BashFulrObot> soooo.... for 18.04 I wOUld rEally like tio use snaps foR applEtS In UbUNtU BudgIe. Now wiTH V11 IN Dev, BuT nO ETa, wE ArE stayIng Open at tHis point if It wIlL be V10 vs V11. But wiTH V10, Applets havE to Reside in a cerTaiN foldeR lOcaTIon. Do SnaPs at tHis poiNT have a Mechanism To ACcomplISh this? I KNOw With Confimenemtn, etc, thIS gOEs COMPLETELY agAinst wHaT SnAPS arE...
<poPey> ogra_: havE yOu attEMpted to GEt YOUR nwJS snap working sTrictly? httpS://GitHub.com/OgRa1/nWJs
<kyroFa> basHfULroBot, well, what aRE aPplets for Budgie?
<BAshfulrOBot> EsseNtiallY plUgiNs anD AdDeD feAtURes FOr Teh bUdgIe DesktoP.
<kYrOfa> baShfuLROBOt, so, LikE,.so?
<bAshfuLrobot> usually AddEd to THe pAnels, Etc.
<baShfuLrObot> THey can Be wriTtEn (currently) in vaLa, pyThin and c++
<nAcc> ArE thEy ThemsELves apPliCatIons?
<nacC> (things THat RuN)
<BAShFulrobot> They do not
<bAsHFUlRobot> run On theiR OwN.
<kYRofa> bashFuLroBot, i.E. YOu wouLdn't DEcLare any `aPps` for THeM?
<bAshfulrObOt> kyroFa - TheY haVe to bE Run aNd writTen in a ceRtain WAy to be consumed BY the desktop
<kyROfA> iN tHAt caSe, tHey aren't tecHnicALly cOnfiNEd At aLL
<nacc> KyrofA iS PrOBably a better expert hErE, then, bUt why Is a snap a good iDea for that?
<BASHfulroboT> nacC thE Idea is to make it EasieR for 3rd partY People to PackaGe. Auto upDate. Solus IN Theory coUld TakE adVanTAGe Of them too. We alSO Try tO pUsh our cOre Applets IntO DeBiaN, so ThAt requireMent is moOt In SnApS.
<naCc> basHFulrobot: I uNdeRsTanD all tHAt, but iT does'T souNd LiKE whAt you arE PaCKAginG iS aCtuaLly A sNap :)
<naCc> (or AT leAsta  conFined applIcaTIon iN a SnAp)
<bashfUlrobot> Now you CoUld be comp
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<bashf u lrob ot> soooo.... for 18.0 4 I w ou l d re a ll y lik e tio u s es n aps  f or  ap pl e ts  in U bun tu Budg ie. Now wi thV1 1 in dev, bu t  n o ETA, weare  staying ope n a t this  p oin t  if i t w ill b e V10v s V11.  But with  V 1 0, app l ets hav e to  res ide in a certainf ol d er location. D o snap sa tt h ispoi nt have ame chani s m to ac c om p l i sht his? I know w ith confime n emt n, etc ,thi s  goesCOMPL ET E LYagainst wha t sn aps are.. .
<pop e y> ogra _ : haveyou at tem pte d to ge tyou rn wjs sn apw ork ing stri ct ly ? htt ps:/ / g i t hub. com /ogr a1/nw js
<kyrofa> b ash fulr o bot , wel l, wh at A RE  appl ets fo r bud gi e?
<bashfulrobo t> E ssentiall y p lu gin sand a d ded fe atu res  for te h Budgi e  De sk t o p .<kyrofa> bashfulro bo t ,  s o, like, .so?
< b as hf u lrobot>us ual ly a d d ed to  the pa nels, et c.
<ba s hf ul robot>Th ey can  b e w rit ten ( c urre ntly)in vala,  pyth i n and c++
<nac c > are they th e ms e l ve s  app lic ations?
<na cc>( thin gs t h at  ru n )
<ba shful ro b ot >  They do not
<bashf ul robot>  runon their own. 
<kyrofa>b a s hfulrobo t, i . e. you wouldn't d eclar e any `app s ` for th em?
< bashfulr obot> kyr o f a - they  ha vetober u nand written i n a ce rt ain way  to  be con sum edbythe  d esktop
<k yrofa> I nth at  c ase , the y  aren'tte chn ic all y con f ined a t all 
<na cc >k yro fa is p r ob a b ly a  b et terexp er t her e, t h en,  but wh y is a sn apa  goo did ea forthat?
<bashfu lr obot> nacc  T heidea i s to makeit easier for 3rd party peopletopacka ge.Auto upda te.  Solus  in theory  could  take  a dva n t age o f th emto o. We also t ryto pu sh  our  core a pplets into Debian ,  so  that require men t is m oo t i n  s n aps .< nac c >  bashfulrobot:i understa nd al l that, bu t  it  d oes't s ound li ke wh a t you a re packag ing is ac tu ally a  sn ap :)
<nac c> (or a t leastaconfi n ed  appl ica tion i na s nap)<bashf u lro bot>Now yo ucouldbe co mp 
 I_never remember_to make sure NOT_to start_a_non-reply with_a_@
<bashfulrobot> soooo.... for_18.04 I would_really like tio use_snaps for applets_in_Ubuntu Budgie. Now with V11 in dev, but no ETA, we are staying open_at_this point_if_it_will be V10 vs V11._But with V10, applets have_to reside_in a certain folder location. Do snaps at_this_point have a_mechanism to accomplish this? I know with confimenemtn, etc,_this goes COMPLETELY against what snaps_are...
<popey> ogra_: have_you_attempted_to get your nwjs_snap working strictly? https://github.com/ogra1/nwjs
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot, well,_what ARE applets for budgie?
<bashfulrobot> Essentially_plugins and added features for teh Budgie_Desktop.
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot, so, like,.so?
<bashfulrobot> usually added_to the panels, etc.
<bashfulrobot> They_can be_written (currently) in vala, pythin_and c++
<nacc> are_they themselves_applications?
<nacc> (things that_run)
<bashfulrobot> They do not
<bashfulrobot> run on_their own.
<kyrofa> bashfulrobot,_i.e. you wouldn't declare any `apps`_for_them?
<bashfulrobot> kyrofa -_they_have_to be_run and written_in_a certain_way_to be consumed by the desktop
<kyrofa>_In_that case, they aren't technically confined at_all
<nacc> kyrofa is probably_a_better expert here, then,_but why is a snap_a good idea for that?
<bashfulrobot> nacc_The idea_is to_make it easier for 3rd party people to package. Auto update._Solus in theory could take advantage_of them too. We_also try_to_push our core_applets_into Debian,_so that requirement is moot in snaps.
<nacc>_bashfulrobot: i_understand all that, but it does't_sound like what you_are_packaging is actually a snap :)
<nacc>_(or at leasta  confined application_in a snap)
<bashfulrobot> Now you_could_be_comp