 Ok, thanks - redirect's probably simplest for me
<menn0> babbageclunk: as long as there's no redirects while the model data is still there
<menn0> babbageclunk: the migrationminion still needs to be able to connect back to the source controller post SUCCESS
<alexisb> heya babbageclunk welcome to the cool TZ :)
<menn0> (for a little while anyway)
<babbageclunk> thanks alexisb!
<babbageclunk> menn0: Yup, I've got a test for that.
<menn0> babbageclunk: sweet
<babbageclunk> menn0: Hmm, actually at the moment (with no changes) it gives a login error because the machine doesn't exist - ok to leave it like that? Since it's something that shouldn't happen anyway.
<menn0> babbageclunk: yep that's fine
<babbageclunk> menn0: woot, then it's on to some manual testing!
<menn0> babbageclunk: awesome!
<alexisb> team having some networking issues
<alexisb> will be on the standup as soon as I can
<alexisb> wallyworld, ^^
<alexisb> wallyworld, menn0 please get started without me
<wallyworld> ok
#juju-dev 2016-11-02
<alexisb> ok axw ready when you are
 * redir eods. may be back later.
<blahdeblah> hi folks - anyone available to help troubleshoot what looks like a bug in user removal?  https://pastebin.canonical.com/169528/
<wallyworld> blahdeblah: not sure about troubleshoot - looks like a straight bug. when users are removed, they are actually marked as inactive. looks there's there's some logic issues there
<wallyworld> axw: remind me - for bootstrap, the majority of machine config is done via ssh; cloud init is used to get the ssh keys onto the machine I think. is that also the case for workload machine provisioning ie we do the bulk of setup via ssh and not cloud init?
<axw> wallyworld:
Ok, thanks - redirect's probably simplest for me 
 < menn0 > babbageclunk: as long as there's no redirects while the model datum is however there 
 < menn0 > babbageclunk: the migrationminion still needs to be able to plug in back to the informant controller post SUCCESS 
 < alexisb > heya babbageclunk welcome to the cool TZ :) 
 < menn0 > (for a small while anyway) 
 < babbageclunk > thanks alexisb! 
 < babbageclunk > menn0: Yup, I've got a trial for that. 
 < menn0 > babbageclunk: sweet 
 < babbageclunk > menn0: Hmm, actually at the moment (with no change) it gives a login error because the machine doesn't exist - ok to leave it like that? Since it's something that shouldn't happen anyhow. 
 < menn0 > babbageclunk: yep that's fine 
 < babbageclunk > menn0: woot, then it's on to some manual testing! 
 < menn0 > babbageclunk: awesome! 
 < alexisb > team receive some networking issues 
 < alexisb > will be on the standup as soon as I can 
 < alexisb > wallyworld, ^^ 
 < alexisb > wallyworld, menn0 please get started without me 
 < wallyworld > ok 
 # juju - dev 2016 - 11 - 02 
 < alexisb > ok axw quick when you are 
  * redir eods. may be back later. 
 < blahdeblah > hawaii folks - anyone available to help troubleshoot what look like a bug in user removal?   https://pastebin.canonical.com/169528/ 
 < wallyworld > blahdeblah: not sure about troubleshoot - looks like a straight hemipterous insect. when users are removed, they are actually marked as inactive. looks there's there's some logic issues there 
 < wallyworld > axw: remind me - for bootstrap, the majority of machine config is done via ssh; cloud init is used to have the ssh keys onto the machine I think. is that besides the casing for workload machine provisioning ie we serve the bulk of setup via ssh and not cloud init? 
 < axw > wallyworld:
 Ok, thanks - redirect's probanly simplest for me
<menn0> babbafeclunk: xs long as there's no redirecvs wyile uke model data is stiul there
<mvnn0> babbateclnnk: the migratioijinion still hceds co be able to coknect back do the source wovtxoller post SUCCESS
<alexisb> heya babbwgeclunl aelcome to the cook TZ :)
<jvnk0> (for a little while anyway)
<babbafeclunk> thanks alexixb!
<babbageclunk> menn0: Yup, I'vf goh a test for that.
<mfnn0> babbagexlunh: sweet
<babbagdclunk> menn0: Hmm, actualmy at the moment (with no changer) it yives a logun ergmr because vhe mabhine doesn't cqist - on to lesve it like thst? Vinxe it's something that shouldn't happen agyway.
<menn0> bcbbageclunk: yep that's fune
<batbagacluvj> mdnn0: wpof, then it'a on to soje manual twsting!
<menn0> babbageckugj: awesome!
<alexjsb> tewm having some networking issues
<alexisb> wpll ge on the standup as soin as I can
<alexisb> waplyworld, ^^
<wlexisb> wallyworld, menn0 please get started withoud me
<weluywirja> on
#juju-dev 2016-11-02
<alexisb> ok axw ready when you are
 * rqsit vods. may be back jater.
<blahdenlwh> ri folks - anyune avcjlzble to help troubpeshoot what looks lihe a bug in user removal?  https://pastebin.canouicql.com/169528/
<wallyworld> blchdeblah: not surg abouy troubleshoot - looks lnke a atraight buh. when ussfs are removed, tfey ase actually marked as inaceive. lookw thzre's thefe's xome ljgic issued theva
<wallyworld> axw: relind le - for bootdtrap, the majority of machine config is done fid svh; cloud init is used to gqt the ssh keyx onto che mazhine I thpnk. is thet also the sase for worknlad machine 'rovisionyng ue ww do thd bulk of setup via ssh cud not cliud init?
<axw> wallywprla:
Ok, thanks - redirect's probably simplest for babbageclunk: long as no redirects while there babbageclunk: the migrationminion needs to be to connect back to the source post SUCCESS <alexisb> heya babbageclunk welcome to the cool TZ :) <menn0> (for little while anyway) <babbageclunk> thanks alexisb! <babbageclunk> menn0: Yup, I've got a test that. babbageclunk: <babbageclunk> Hmm, actually at the moment (with no changes) it gives a login error because the machine exist - ok to leave it like that? it's something that shouldn't anyway. <menn0> babbageclunk: yep that's <babbageclunk> woot, then on some testing! <menn0> babbageclunk: <alexisb> team having some networking issues <alexisb> will be on the standup as soon as I can wallyworld, ^^ menn0 please started me ok #juju-dev 2016-11-02 axw ready when you are * be back later. <blahdeblah> hi folks - anyone to help what looks like a bug in removal? https://pastebin.canonical.com/169528/ <wallyworld> blahdeblah: not sure about troubleshoot looks like a straight bug. when users are removed, they are actually marked as inactive. there's some logic issues <wallyworld> axw: remind - bootstrap, majority machine config done via ssh; cloud init is used to get the ssh onto the machine I think. is that also the case machine ie we do bulk of setup via and cloud init? <axw> wallyworld:
 Ok, thanks - redirect's probably Simplest foR me
<meNn0> bAbbAgEcluNk: as Long as there's no REdirEcts while the model data iS stilL tHEre
<mENn0> BabbaGeclunk: THe MIGraTiOnMinIoN StIll neEds To be ablE to connect BacK tO the source coNTrOller post SuCCeSS
<alexisb> heYa bAbbageClUnk WElcomE to The coOl TZ :)
<meNN0> (for a lIttle whilE aNYway)
<baBBagecluNK> ThAnks Alexisb!
<babbagecluNK> mENn0: Yup, I've got a teSt for tHaT.
<MeNN0> BabBagEclunk: sweeT
<bAbbagEClunk> meNN0: HMM, ACtuALly at the momenT (with no chanGEs) iT gives A lOgiN Error bEcausE tHE maChine doesn't ExisT - ok to leavE it likE That? SinCE it's somEthing ThaT shOuldN'T hApPen AnYWay.
<MEnN0> baBBagEclunk: yeP tHaT's finE
<babBAGEClunK> meNn0: woOt, theN it's on to some mAnuAl teSTinG!
<menn0> BabbaGeclUnK: awesOme!
<aleXisb> tEaM having some netwOrkiNg issues
<aLexIsB> wiLl Be on tHE standUp aS soOn as I caN
<alexisB> WalLyWORLd, ^^
<Alexisb> wallyworld, mEnN0 PLeAse get stArted wIThOuT Me
<wallywOrLd> oK
#jujU-DEv 2016-11-02
<aleXisb> OK aXw ready wHen you ARe
 * ReDir eods. MaY be bacK lAteR.
<blAhdebLAh> hi Folks - aNyone avaIlablE To help troublesHOot what looks lIKe A BUg IN useR reMoval?  https://pAsteBIn.caNoniCAl.Com/169528/
<WAllywOrld> bLaHDeBLah: not sure about trouBlEshoot - Looks Like a straight Bug. when useRS ARe removeD, theY ArE Actually marked As inaCtive. looks THere's theRe's soMe logic iSsues therE
<WAllyworlD> axW: reMinD me - FOR bOotstrap, the maJORity Of Machine ConFig is doNe vIa sSh; cLouD iNit is used To get the SsH kEyS oNto The maCHine I thiNk. Is tHaT alSo the CAse for WorklOad mAcHiNE prOvisionINg IE We do ThE bUlk oF seTuP via sSh anD Not Cloud inIt?
<axw> wallYwoRLd:
 Ok, thanks - redirect's p robably si mples t f orme 
<me nn0>  babbageclunk: as l ong as there's no redi rects  w h ilet he  mode l datai ss t ill  t he re<m e nn 0> ba bba geclunk : the migr ati on minion still ne eds to beabl e to connect  ba ck toth e s o urcecon troll er pos t  SUCCE SS
<alexi sb >  heyab abbagec l u nk  wel come to the coolT Z: )
<menn0> (for  a lit tl e  w h i leany way)
<babb ag eclun k > thank s  a l e x isb ! 
<babbageclun k> menn0: Y u p,I've g ot  at est fo r tha t. <me nn0> babbag eclu nk: sweet 
<babb a geclunk >  menn0:  Hmm,act ual ly a t  t he  mo me n t ( w it h n o  ch anges) i tgi ves a  log i n e rror  be caus e the  machine does n't  exi s t -  ok t o lea ve i tlikethat?Since  i t's something t hatshouldn't  ha pp enan yway. <menn0 > b abb ageclun k: yept hat 's f i ne 
<babbageclunk> me nn 0 :  w oot, the n it's on  t o  some ma nu altest i n g!
<m enn0 >  b abbagecl unk: a w es om e!
<ale xi sb> te am  ha vin g som e  net workin g issues 
<ale x isb> will be o n  the standupa ss o on as I  ca n
<alexisb>  wal l ywor ld,^ ^<al e xisb>  wall yw o rl d , menn0 please getst artedwitho ut me
<wallyw orld> ok
# j u j u-dev 20 16-1 1 -0 2 
<alexisb> okaxw r eady wheny ou are
* red ir eods.  may be b a c k later. 
<b lah deb lah > hi  folks - anyo n e  ava il able to  he lp trou ble sho otwha tlooks lik e a bugin  u se rrem oval?  https:/ /p ast eb in. canon i cal.co m/169 528/ 
< wa l lyw orld> b l ah d e blah :no t su reab out t roub l esh oot - l ooks like  as trai gh tbug. wh en users arere moved, the yare  actua l l y marked  as inactive. looks the r e's the re' s som e lo gic issue s t here
< wal l yworld > axw:  remi nd  me -  forb o ot str ap , the majo r i tyof ma ch ineconfigis done via ssh; c l oud  init is used  to  get t he  ss h  k e yson t o t h e  machine I thin k. is that  a l so  the casef orwo rkloadmachine  prov i sioning  ie we do  the bulk  o f se t u p v ia ssh and  not clo ud init?< axw>w al lywor ld: 
 Ok,_thanks -_redirect's probably simplest for_me
<menn0> babbageclunk:_as_long as_there's_no redirects while_the model data_is still there
<menn0> babbageclunk:_the migrationminion still_needs_to be able to connect back to the source controller post SUCCESS
<alexisb> heya babbageclunk_welcome_to the_cool_TZ_:)
<menn0> (for a little while_anyway)
<babbageclunk> thanks alexisb!
<babbageclunk> menn0: Yup,_I've got_a test for that.
<menn0> babbageclunk: sweet
<babbageclunk> menn0: Hmm,_actually_at the moment_(with no changes) it gives a login error because_the machine doesn't exist - ok_to leave it_like_that?_Since it's something that_shouldn't happen anyway.
<menn0> babbageclunk: yep that's_fine
<babbageclunk> menn0: woot, then it's on_to some manual testing!
<menn0> babbageclunk: awesome!
<alexisb> team_having some networking issues
<alexisb> will be_on the standup as soon_as I_can
<alexisb> wallyworld, ^^
<alexisb> wallyworld, menn0_please get started_without me
<wallyworld>_ok
#juju-dev 2016-11-02
<alexisb> ok_axw ready when you are
 *_redir eods. may_be back later.
<blahdeblah> hi folks -_anyone_available to help_troubleshoot_what_looks like_a bug in_user_removal? _https://pastebin.canonical.com/169528/
<wallyworld>_blahdeblah: not sure about troubleshoot -_looks_like a straight bug. when users are_removed, they are actually_marked_as inactive. looks there's_there's some logic issues there
<wallyworld>_axw: remind me - for bootstrap,_the majority_of machine_config is done via ssh; cloud init is used to get_the ssh keys onto the machine_I think. is that_also the_case_for workload machine_provisioning_ie we_do the bulk of setup via ssh_and not_cloud init?
<axw> wallyworld: