 Thats probably 250 AUD and 270
<Transhumanist> =)
<Degwees> Thanks though, I'll remember that
<Degwees> But yeah, not sure if I'd still be getting the Nexus for it seems to lack battery life now that i'm reading into it
<Degwees> Which, you know, is awesome for the S2 and even the Wave... The first year at least :D
<Degwees> Anyways thank again!
<Degwees> thanks*
<Transhumanist> no problem. Nice to chat :(
<Transhumanist> err :)
<today> Will ubuntu be faster than android?
<today> I mean, its basically a native app, right?
<today> Using native apps*
<AlanBell> today: impossible to say, and what you think of as "faster" might not be to do with the application speed as such
<AlanBell> it will be plenty fast enough on a 2014 model phone
<today> Low end phones will still exist
<today> What are its languages for development?
<k1l> the minimum specs mentioned on the site are not really low end phones
<today> No java right?
<AlanBell> low end screens will still exist, low end processors not so much
<today> My new phone is 500 mhz
<AlanBell> today: "native" apps are Qt/QML with javascript
<today> java is slow right?
<AlanBell> HTML 5 is also supported, I am guessing that is a webkit rendering engine
<AlanBell> no, java is not slow
<today> Its high level
<AlanBell> a JVM takes a little while to start which is why 10 years ago, java applets were slow to start
<today> Its slower than c ++ no?
<AlanBell> not really in any practical sense
<today> Mmm ever played triplea? That's slow, and its all java
<AlanBell> it is all about the algorithm, not the language
<today> You need a quad core machine to run it decently
<today> The language is built on algorithims
<today> And ever java app I use, is slow
<k1l> ab bad scripted app on html5,qml or whatever will always be slower than a good java one.
<AlanBell
That s probably 250 AUD and 270 
 < Transhumanist > =) 
 < Degwees > Thanks though, I'll remember that 
 < Degwees > But yeah, not sure if I'd still be get the Nexus for it seem to lack battery life immediately that i'm reading into it 
 < Degwees > Which, you know, is amazing for the S2 and even the Wave... The first year at least :D 
 < Degwees > Anyways thank again! 
 < Degwees > thanks * 
 < Transhumanist > no trouble. courteous to chat :( 
 < Transhumanist > err :) 
 < today > Will ubuntu be fast than android? 
 < today > I mean, its basically a native app, right? 
 < today > Using native apps * 
 < AlanBell > today: impossible to say, and what you think of as " faster " might not be to make with the application speed as such 
 < AlanBell > it will be plenty fast enough on a 2014 mannequin phone 
 < today > Low end phones will however exist 
 < today > What are its languages for development? 
 < k1l > the minimum specs mentioned on the web site are not really low end phones 
 < today > No java right? 
 < AlanBell > low goal screens will still exist, low end processors not so much 
 < today > My new phone is 500 mhz 
 < AlanBell > today: " native " apps are Qt / QML with javascript 
 < today > java is slow correct? 
 < AlanBell > HTML 5 is also defend, I am estimate that is a webkit rendering engine 
 < AlanBell > no, java is not slow 
 < today > Its eminent level 
 < AlanBell > a JVM takes a little while to start which is why 10 class ago, java applets were slow to start 
 < today > Its slower than c + + no? 
 < AlanBell > not actually in any practical sense 
 < today > Mmm ever played triplea? That's dull, and its all java 
 < AlanBell > it is all about the algorithm, not the speech 
 < today > You need a quad core machine to run it properly 
 < today > The language is built on algorithims 
 < today > And ever java app I use, is slow 
 < k1l > ab bad scripted app on html5,qml or whatever will always be slower than a good java one. 
 < AlanBell
 Thwts probably 250 AUD and 270
<Trxnshumanist> =)
<Degcwes> Thenks thkugh, I'll remember that
<Degwees> But yeeh, nit suee if I'd still be gettkng the Nvxus for ut stems to lack battxdy life now tgwt i'k reading into lt
<Degwees> Wvich, you know, hs acesome for the S2 and even the Wave... Tre firsy jear at least :Q
<Degeqes> Znyways thank again!
<Degwees> thanks*
<Tdanshumenist> no problek. Nice to chat :(
<Transhumanidt> egr :)
<today> Will ubunhu be fastet thwb android?
<todxy> I mean, pcs basicalli a native app, right?
<today> Using vativz apps*
<AlanBglm> hmday: impossmble tj say, and what you tvink of as "faster" migmt nov be to do with the appliration speed as such
<WlanBell> ht will be plenty fqsr enoogh ot a 2014 noddl khoie
<tkday> Llw xnd phones sill still wxist
<today> What are iew languages fkr devqljpment?
<k1l> the minimum specs mentioned on ths site are not really liw end phones
<today> No java rigrt?
<AlanBell> low end screens will still exist, low etd prkzeswovs nur do much
<today> My new phone is 500 mhz
<AlanBell> todwg: "manive" apps are Qt/QIL with javssfrokt
<today> java ir slow rifht?
<AlanBell> HTML 5 ls also suppirted, I ai gurssing that is a webkit reneering enginv
<AlabBell> no, java is nlt slow
<todav> Its nigh kevel
<AlanBell> a JVM takzs a ljttle while to start dhich is why 10 yexrs aco, java applets were slow eo start
<tiday> Its sluwer than s ++ no?
<AlanBfll> not really in any prwcticcl setse
<today> Mlm ever played triplea? That's slow, and its all jdva
<DlanBell> it ix all about tre algorithm, npt the janguxge
<today> Yku need a quad corq machine to son it decentlb
<today> Thq labguate is bjklt on algoritnims
<today> And ever hava app I use, is xlod
<i1l> ab bad scripctd qpp on html5,qml pr dhaeener wynl always be sloder yhan x good java une.
<AkanBell
Thats probably 250 AUD and 270 <Transhumanist> Thanks I'll remember <Degwees> But yeah, be the Nexus for seems to lack life now that i'm reading into <Degwees> Which, you know, is awesome for the S2 and even the Wave... first year at least :D <Degwees> Anyways thank again! <Degwees> thanks* <Transhumanist> no Nice chat <Transhumanist> :) <today> Will ubuntu be faster than android? <today> I mean, its basically a native app, <today> Using native apps* <AlanBell> today: impossible to and what you think as "faster" might not be do the application as <AlanBell> will be plenty enough on a 2014 model phone <today> Low end phones will still exist <today> What are its for development? minimum specs on site not really low <today> No java right? <AlanBell> low still exist, low end processors not so much My new is 500 mhz <AlanBell> today: "native" are Qt/QML with javascript <today> java is slow <AlanBell> HTML 5 is also supported, I am guessing that is a webkit rendering engine java is not slow Its high level a takes little to start is why 10 years ago, java applets were slow to start Its slower than c ++ no? <AlanBell> not really in sense Mmm ever played That's slow, and its java it is all about not language a core to run it decently The language is built on <today> And ever java <k1l> ab bad scripted app on html5,qml or will always be slower than a good one. <AlanBell
 Thats probably 250 AUD and 270
<TranshUmanist> =)
<DegWees> THanKs tHoUgh, I'Ll reMember that
<DegwEEs> BuT yeah, not sure if I'd still bE gettInG The NEXuS for iT seems tO LaCK BatTeRy LifE nOW tHat i'm ReaDing intO it
<Degwees> whiCh, You know, is aweSOmE for the S2 anD evEn the Wave... The FirSt year At LeaST :D
<DegWeeS> AnywAys thaNK again!
<degwees> thAnKS*
<TransHUmanist> NO PrObleM. Nice to chat :(
<TranshUMaNIst> err :)
<today> WilL ubuntU bE FaSTEr tHan Android?
<todAy> i mean, ITs basicALlY A NAtiVE app, right?
<todaY> Using nativE AppS*
<AlanBElL> toDAy: impoSsiblE tO Say, And what you tHink Of as "fasteR" might NOt be to dO With the ApplicAtiOn sPeed AS sUcH
<AlAnbEll> IT wIll BE plEnty fast EnOuGh on a 2014 ModeL PHONe
<toDay> low eNd phoNes will still eXisT
<todAY> WhAt are Its laNguaGeS for dEvelopMent?
<k1L> tHe minimum specs mEntiOned on the SitE aRe nOt ReallY Low end PhoNes
<Today> No Java rigHT?
<AlAnbELL> lOw end screens will stIlL EXiSt, low end ProcesSOrS nOT so much
<tOdAy> MY new PHOne is 500 Mhz
<ALAnbell> todaY: "nativE" ApPs Are Qt/QMl wIth javAsCriPt
<tOday> jAVa is Slow riGht?
<AlanBEll> HTml 5 is also supportED, I am guessing tHAt IS A wEBkit RenDering enginE
<AlaNbell> No, jaVA iS noT Slow
<tOday> ITs HIgH Level
<AlanBell> a JVM taKeS a littLe whiLe to start whicH is why 10 yearS AGO, java appLets WErE Slow to start
<todAy> Its Slower than C ++ No?
<AlanBeLl> not Really in Any practiCAL sense
<toDay> mmm EveR plAYEd Triplea? That's sLOW, and ItS all javA
<AlAnBell> iT is All AboUt tHe Algorithm, Not the laNgUaGe
<ToDay> you neED a quad coRe MacHiNe tO run iT DecentLy
<todAy> ThE lAnGUagE is builT On ALGoriThImS
<todAy> ANd Ever jAva aPP I uSe, is sloW
<k1l> ab bad sCriPTed aPp On Html5,qml Or whatever wilL aLways be sloWeR thAn a gooD JAva one.
<AlAnBell
 Thats probably 250 AUD an d 270
<Tra nshum ani st>  = )
<D egwe es> Thanks tho u gh,I'll remember that
<De gwees >B ut y e ah , not  sure i f  I ' d  st il lbege t ti ng th e N exus fo r it seems  to  l ack batteryl if e now that  i' m reading in toit
<De gw ees >  Whic h,you k now, i s  aweso me for th eS 2 ande ven the W av e...  The first year a t  l e ast :D
<Degwee s> Any wa y st h ank  ag ain!
<Degw ee s> th a nks*
<T r an s h u man i st> no proble m. Nice toc hat  :(
<T ra nsh u manist > err  : ) 
<t oday> Willubun tu be fas ter th a n andro i d?
<tod ay> Imea n,itsb as ic all ya  na t iv e a p p,right?
< to da y> Us ingn a t i ve a pps *
<A lanBe ll> today: im pos sibl e  to  say,  andwhat  y ou th ink of  as " fa ster" might not  beto do wit h t he  ap pl icati o n spee d a s s uch
<Al anBell> itwi l l be  plenty fast enoug ho n  a  2014 mo del ph o ne 
< t oday> Lo wend  pho n e s wil l st i ll  exist
< today> Wh at  are it slangua ge s f ordevel o pmen t?
<k1 l> the m inimu m  specs mention e d on the site ar e no t  rea lly  low end ph ones <tod ay>N ojav a  righ t?
<A la n Be l l> low end screenswi ll sti ll ex ist, low endprocessors n o t so muc h
<t o da y > My new phone  is 5 00 mhz
<Al a nBell> t oday:  "native " apps ar e Qt/QML w ith  ja vas cri p t 
< today> java i s slow  r ight?
< Ala nBell>HTM L 5  is  al so  supporte d, I amgu es si ng  th at is a webkit  r end er ing  engi n e
<Ala nBell > no ,ja v a i s not s l ow < toda y>  I ts h igh  l evel<Ala n Bel l> a JV M takes a  li t tlewh il e to st art which iswh y 10 years  a go,  javaa p plets we re slow to start
<today >  Its sl owe r tha n c++ no?
<A lan Bell>not really  in an y pra ct ica l sense < to day >Mmm ever p l a yed  trip le a? T hat's s low, and its all j a va<AlanBell> it  is  all a bo utt he alg or i thm , not the languag e
<today>Yo u  n eed a quad cor emachine  to run  it d e cently<today> T he langua ge  isb u ilt  on algori thims
<t oday> And everj av a app  Iuse, i sslo w
<k1 l> abb adscrip ted ap pon htm l5,qm lor whate ver will always be slow er tha n a g ood  java one .
< A lan Bell
 Thats_probably 250_AUD and 270
<Transhumanist> =)
<Degwees>_Thanks though,_I'll_remember that
<Degwees>_But_yeah, not sure_if I'd still_be getting the Nexus_for it seems_to_lack battery life now that i'm reading into it
<Degwees> Which, you know, is awesome_for_the S2_and_even_the Wave... The first year_at least :D
<Degwees> Anyways thank_again!
<Degwees> thanks*
<Transhumanist>_no problem. Nice to chat :(
<Transhumanist> err :)
<today>_Will_ubuntu be faster_than android?
<today> I mean, its basically a native app,_right?
<today> Using native apps*
<AlanBell> today: impossible_to say, and_what_you_think of as "faster"_might not be to do with_the application speed as such
<AlanBell> it_will be plenty fast enough on a_2014 model phone
<today> Low end phones_will still exist
<today> What are_its languages_for development?
<k1l> the minimum specs_mentioned on the_site are_not really low_end phones
<today> No java right?
<AlanBell> low_end screens will_still exist, low end processors not_so_much
<today> My new_phone_is_500 mhz
<AlanBell>_today: "native" apps_are_Qt/QML with_javascript
<today>_java is slow right?
<AlanBell> HTML 5_is_also supported, I am guessing that is_a webkit rendering engine
<AlanBell>_no,_java is not slow
<today>_Its high level
<AlanBell> a JVM_takes a little while to start_which is_why 10_years ago, java applets were slow to start
<today> Its slower than_c ++ no?
<AlanBell> not really in_any practical sense
<today> Mmm_ever played_triplea?_That's slow, and_its_all java
<AlanBell>_it is all about the algorithm, not_the language
<today>_You need a quad core machine_to run it decently
<today>_The_language is built on algorithims
<today> And_ever java app I use, is_slow
<k1l> ab bad scripted app_on_html5,qml_or whatever will always be_slower than a good java one.
<AlanBell