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<SuperMatt> good morning on this chilly saturday
<brobostigon> morning
<SuperMatt> Today is a day for writing a wordpress theme
 * penguin42 updates his Mum's machine from 12.04
<brobostigon> wowzer
<daftykins> O_O
<penguin42> well it was working and still LTS so hey that's the point
<DJones> penguin42: Must admit, I've only recently upgraded my server from 12.04...as you say it still worked, was still LTS and supported...etc
<DJones> Yay for 5 year LTS releases
<penguin42> what has stopped working on that machine is h.264 playback through ff, firefox complains of an outdated libav; now I can't honestly remember whether the libav on there is a standard ubuntu one or not, but either way it means her machine can't watch our cctv, so I need to fix that so I may as well update first
<daftykins> oh yeah i suppose it was going to be good until this April
<daftykins> agreed on the sticking to what works as long as it's LTS, however i will absolutely slay anyone running EOL due to laziness (and do) :)
<penguin42> nod
<penguin42> the odd thing I had to remember was the trick on it to make the 1366x768 TV/monitor work on it
<daftykins> oh dear, another modeline / hardcoded EDID to combat useless VGA?
<penguin42> nod, it's kind of annoying it isn't in distros
<penguin42> I eventually found I'd added an xrandr command in her.profile
<daftykins> ah har
<daftykins> i often go in and find folks have VGA where both their PC and monitor has a digital interconnect of whichever variety free, so i just order in a cable from amazon for say Â£5 and throw it on the bill
<daftykins> one client had been getting by with the wrong resolution due to VGA hassles, even on a Windows machine for so long that he thought his eyes were going bad
<daftykins> turned out it was just a super thin badly shielded cable but throwing HDMI in just made him say '
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 < SuperMatt > good morning on this chilly saturday 
 < brobostigon > morning 
 < SuperMatt > Today is a day for writing a wordpress root 
  * penguin42 update his Mum's machine from 12.04 
 < brobostigon > wowzer 
 < daftykins > O_O 
 < penguin42 > well it was working and still LTS then hey that's the point 
 < DJones > penguin42: Must admit, I've entirely recently upgrade my server from 12.04... as you state it still worked, was even LTS and supported... etc 
 < DJones > Yay for 5 year LTS release 
 < penguin42 > what has stopped working on that machine is h.264 playback through ff, firefox complains of an outdated libav; now I can't honestly remember whether the libav on there is a standard ubuntu one or not, but either way it mean her machine can't watch our cctv, so I need to cook that so I may as well update first 
 < daftykins > oh yeah i suppose it was die to be good until this April 
 < daftykins > agreed on the sticking to what works as long as it's LTS, however i will absolutely slay anyone run EOL due to laziness (and do) :) 
 < penguin42 > nod 
 < penguin42 > the odd thing I had to commend was the trick on it to make the 1366x768 TV / monitor work on it 
 < daftykins > oh dear, another modeline / hardcoded EDID to combat useless VGA? 
 < penguin42 > nod, it's kind of annoying it isn't in distros 
 < penguin42 > I eventually found I'd added an xrandr instruction in her.profile 
 < daftykins > ah har 
 < daftykins > i frequently go in and receive tribe have VGA where both their PC and monitor have a digital interconnect of whichever variety free, so i just order in a cable television from amazon for say Â£5 and throw it on the bill 
 < daftykins > one client had been getting by with the wrong resolution due to VGA hassles, even on a Windows machine for so long that he thought his eyes were going regretful 
 < daftykins > turned out it was merely a super thin badly shielded cable but project HDMI in just made him say'
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<SupfrMatt> good morning on tmis chilly saturbqy
<brobmstigoh> mornine
<SuperMatt> Today is a day foc wruting a wordpress theme
 * pevguin42 updwtes his Mum'w machine fckm 12.04
<brobostigoh> wowvec
<daftykins> O_O
<pekguin42> well ht was working avd still LTS so hey that's the point
<DJjnes> pemgkin42: Must admit, I've jnly gegently upgraded my server from 12.04...aa you sey it still worled, was still LTS and supplrtef...etc
<DJones> Yay for 5 year LTS tslewwes
<penguin42> wfat has stopped workinf on that machine is h.264 playback throbgh ff, firedoz clkplains of en outqated libav; kpw I cdn't honrstly remember whxthee the libav on there ms a standard ubuntu one or nmt, but either way ir neans her macfune cah't wztch okr rctv, so I nsed to fix rhat so I may as wekl lldate first
<dzftykigs> oh yeah i suppose it was going to be gmod until this April
<daftykuns> agreed on the stifking to rhat works as long as it's LTS, however i will absonutelb rlav anyovw gunning EOL due to laziness (and do) :)
<penguin42> noq
<lemglin42> the odd thing I had to rrmfmngr was the trizk on nf fo make the 1366x768 TV/mojitor wjrk ob it
<daftyhins> oh dear, another modeline / yardcoded EDPD ti combat useless VYA?
<penguin42> nob, it's lind pf annoying it isn't in bistroa
<penguin42> I fventuallg found I'd added xn qrangr command in her.profile
<dastykins> ai har
<baftykinr> i pften do in and vind nmlks have VGA wherf botk thehr PC and lonitor has a digital interconnxrt of whichevgr earpety free, so i just order ig a cable from amazon for ray Â£5 and tgrow it on the bilj
<daftykins> ona client had ueen gettyng vy wuth the drong resolutipn due to VGA hasslws, even on a Windoxs mxdhine for so louy uhqt he thought nis eyqs wxre gjhng bad
<daftynins> tufmed ojt it was jmst a siper thin badly shiended cable but throwinb MDMI in jost made rim say '
. <SuperMatt> good morning on this chilly morning Today is day for writing updates Mum's machine from <brobostigon> wowzer <daftykins> <penguin42> well it was working and LTS so hey that's the point <DJones> penguin42: Must admit, I've only recently my server from 12.04...as you say it still worked, was still LTS and <DJones> for year releases <penguin42> what has stopped working on that machine is h.264 playback through ff, firefox complains an outdated libav; now I can't honestly remember the libav on there a standard ubuntu one or but way it her can't our cctv, so need to fix that so I may as well update first <daftykins> oh yeah i suppose it going to until this <daftykins> on sticking to what long as it's LTS, however i anyone running EOL due to laziness (and do) <penguin42> nod the odd thing I had to was the trick on it to make the TV/monitor work on it <daftykins> oh dear, another modeline / hardcoded EDID to combat useless nod, it's kind of it isn't in <penguin42> eventually I'd an xrandr in her.profile <daftykins> ah har <daftykins> i often go in and folks have VGA where both their PC and monitor has interconnect whichever variety free, i just order in cable amazon for say Â£5 it the client been by with the wrong due to VGA hassles, even a Windows machine for his eyes were going bad <daftykins> turned out was just a super thin badly shielded but throwing HDMI in just made him say '
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<SuperMatt> good morning on thiS chilly satUrday
<BroBosTiGon> mOrniNg
<SuperMatt> TodAY is a Day for writing a wordpresS themE
 * pENguiN42 UpDates His Mum's MAcHINe fRoM 12.04
<bRobOsTIgOn> wowZer
<DaftykiNs> O_O
<penguiN42> weLl It was working ANd Still LTS so Hey That's the poinT
<DJOnes> peNgUin42: mUst adMit, i've onLy receNTly upgRaded my seRvER from 12.04...aS You say iT STiLl woRked, was still LTS anD SuPPorted...etc
<DJoneS> Yay foR 5 yEAr lts reLeaSes
<penguin42> WhAt has STopped wORkING On tHAt machine is h.264 pLayback throUGh fF, firefOx ComPLains oF an ouTdATed Libav; now I caN't hoNestly remEmber wHEther thE Libav on There iS a sTanDard UBuNtU onE oR Not, BUt EitHEr wAy it meanS hEr MachiNe caN'T WATch oUr cCtv, sO I neeD to fix that so I May As weLL upDate fIrst
<dAftyKiNs> oh yEah i suPpose It Was going to be gooD untIl this AprIl
<dAfTykInS> agreED on the StiCkiNg to whaT works aS LonG aS IT'S LtS, however i will absoLuTELy Slay anyoNe runnINg eOl Due to lazInEss (And dO) :)
<PEnguiN42> nod
<PEnGuin42> the oDd thinG i hAd To rememBeR was thE tRicK on It to mAKe thE 1366x768 TV/moNitor worK on it
<DAftykins> oh dear, ANother modelinE / HaRDCoDEd EDiD tO combat uselEss Vga?
<penGuin42> NOd, It's KInd of AnnoyInG It ISn't in distros
<penguin42> i eVentuaLly foUnd I'd added an xRandr commaND IN her.profIle
<dAFtYKins> ah har
<daftyKins> i Often go in aND find folKs havE VGA wherE both theiR pc and moniTor Has A diGitAL InTerconnect of wHIChevEr Variety FreE, so i jusT orDer In a CabLe From amazoN for say Â£5 AnD tHrOw It oN the bILl
<daftykInS> onE cLieNt had BEen getTing bY witH tHe WRonG resoluTIoN DUe to vGa hAsslEs, eVeN on a WIndoWS maChine foR so long thAt hE ThouGhT hIs eyes wEre going bad
<daFtYkins> turneD oUt iT was juST A super thIn badly shielded cable but THrowing hDMi in juSt maDe him say '
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<SuperMatt> good morning  on this c hilly  sa tur da y
<b robo stigon> mornin g 
<Su perMatt> Today is a da y for  w r itin g  a  word press t h em e  *pe ng uin 42 up dates  hi s Mum's  machine f rom  1 2.04
<brobos t ig on> wowzer 
<d aftykins> O_ O
< pengui n4 2>w ell i t w as wo rkinga nd sti ll LTS so  h e y that ' s the p o i nt 
<DJ ones> penguin42:M us t  admit, I've o nly re ce n tl y upg rad ed my serv er  from 12.04.. . as y o u s a y it still wo rked, was s t ill  LTS a nd  su p ported ...et c< DJo nes> Yay fo r 5year LTSreleas e s
<peng u in42> w hat ha s s top pedw or ki ngon tha t  m ach i neis h.264  p la yback  thr o u g h  ff,  fi refo x com plains of anout date d  li bav;now I  can 't  hone stly r ememb er  whether the li bavon thereisasta nd ard u b untu o neornot, bu t eithe r  wa yi t me ans her machine ca n' t wa tch ourcctv,s oIn eed to f ix  th at s o I may  asw el l update  first <d af tykins>  o h yeah  i  su ppo se it wasgoingto be go od un t il this April< daftykins> ag r ee d on thesti cking to wh at w o rksas l o ng  as it'sLTS,ho w ev e r i will absolutely  s lay an yonerunning EOL d ue to lazi n e s s (and d o) : ) 
< p enguin42> nod<peng uin42> the odd thin g I h ad to re member wa s the tric k o n i t t o m a k ethe 1366x768T V /mon it or work  on  it
<da fty kin s>ohde ar, anoth er model in e/ha rdc odedE DID to c om bat  u sel ess V G A?
<pe nguin 42>no d, it' s kindo fa n noyi ng  i t is n't  i n dis tros <pe nguin42 > I event ual l y fo un dI'd add ed an xrandrco mmand in h er .pr ofile< d aftykins > ah har
<daftykins> io ften go  in  andfind  folks ha veVGA wh ere both t heir P C and  m oni t o r has a  d igi ta l intercon n e ctof wh ic heve r varie ty free, so i just ord er in a cable  fr om a m a zo n f o rs ayÂ£ 5  an d throw it on the  bill
<daf ty k in s> one cli e ntha d beengetting  by w i th thewrong res olution d ue  toV G A h assles, ev en on aWindows m a chine fo r solon g that  h e t hough t hise yes  were  going  b ad
<da ftyki ns > turned  out it was just a supe r thin  badl y s hielded c abl e  bu t throwin g HD MI in just  ma dehim s ay' 
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<SuperMatt> good_morning on_this chilly saturday
<brobostigon> morning
<SuperMatt>_Today is_a_day for_writing_a wordpress theme
_* penguin42 updates_his Mum's machine from_12.04
<brobostigon> wowzer
<daftykins> O_O
<penguin42>_well_it was working and still LTS so hey that's the point
<DJones> penguin42: Must admit,_I've_only recently_upgraded_my_server from 12.04...as you say_it still worked, was still_LTS and_supported...etc
<DJones> Yay for 5 year LTS releases
<penguin42> what_has_stopped working on_that machine is h.264 playback through ff, firefox complains_of an outdated libav; now I_can't honestly remember_whether_the_libav on there is_a standard ubuntu one or not,_but either way it means her_machine can't watch our cctv, so I_need to fix that so I_may as well update first
<daftykins>_oh yeah_i suppose it was going_to be good_until this_April
<daftykins> agreed on_the sticking to what works as_long as it's_LTS, however i will absolutely slay_anyone_running EOL due_to_laziness_(and do)_:)
<penguin42> nod
<penguin42> the_odd_thing I_had_to remember was the trick on_it_to make the 1366x768 TV/monitor work on_it
<daftykins> oh dear, another_modeline_/ hardcoded EDID to_combat useless VGA?
<penguin42> nod, it's_kind of annoying it isn't in_distros
<penguin42> I_eventually found_I'd added an xrandr command in her.profile
<daftykins> ah har
<daftykins> i often_go in and find folks have_VGA where both their_PC and_monitor_has a digital_interconnect_of whichever_variety free, so i just order in_a cable_from amazon for say Â£5 and_throw it on the_bill
<daftykins>_one client had been getting by_with the wrong resolution due to_VGA hassles, even on a_Windows_machine_for so long that he_thought his eyes were going bad
<daftykins>_turned out it_was just a super thin badly shielded_cable_but throwing HDMI in just made_him_say '