 and would have fixed it within 10 mins :)
<ogra> but that was fixed ages ago...
<Erlang> I might have used the wrong channel.  I did not get much support from IRC.  In fact, I remember providing support to some people wanting to install Xgl.
<G0SUB> Erlang how did you fix your issue?
<G0SUB> ogra what's the standard procedure to fix such problems?
<ogra> G0SUB, follow the development very closely ;)
<G0SUB> heh
<ogra> ususally if we have expected brakage like that one, it gets annunced in advance
<Erlang> GOSUB: Booted from breezy rescue, installed udev and many other packages, fiddled wit the config a bit, and dpkg-reconfigured my kernels several times.  That's all I remember.
<G0SUB> ogra is any such breakage expected now?
<Erlang> ogra: I'm guilty of not following closely enough.  I'm rather new to this.  I'll certainly be more wary.
<ogra> G0SUB, also dont upgrade to a development release to early in the cycle...
<G0SUB> ok
<G0SUB> but today? I am dist-upgrading today
<ogra> we usually rip everything apart in the beginning and glue it together again :)
<ogra> we're near the end land past most freezes, upgrade should be fine nowadays
<ogra> s/land/and
<G0SUB> ok
<Erlang> I upgraded just after UVF I think.
<dholbach> hrm, we still have no new motu report in place :-/
<ogra> who was up to do it?
<ogra> or better, was anyone up to do it?
<dholbach> whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY ISSUE
<ajmitch> hm?
<ajmitch> whose birthday?
<dholbach> MOTU REPORT
<ajmitch> ok
<dholbach> and MOTU is just a bit older :)
<ajmitch> has much been happening in the MOTU world lately?
<dholbach> sure
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and would have fixed it within 10 mins :) 
 < ogra > but that was fixed ages ago... 
 < Erlang > I might have use the amiss channel.   I did not get much support from IRC.   In fact, I commemorate providing support to some multitude want to install Xgl. 
 < G0SUB > Erlang how did you fix your topic? 
 < G0SUB > ogra what's the standard procedure to fix such trouble? 
 < ogra > G0SUB, follow the development very close ;) 
 < G0SUB > heh 
 < ogra > ususally if we have expected brakage like that one, it gets annunced in advance 
 < Erlang > GOSUB: boot from breezy rescue, installed udev and many early packages, fiddled wit the config a moment, and dpkg - reconfigured my kernels several clock time.   That's all I commemorate. 
 < G0SUB > ogra is any such breakage expected immediately? 
 < Erlang > ogra: I'm guilty of not following closely enough.   I'm rather newfangled to this.   I'll certainly be more wary. 
 < ogra > G0SUB, also do nt upgrade to a development release to early in the cycle... 
 < G0SUB > ok 
 < G0SUB > but today? I am dist - upgrading today 
 < ogra > we usually rip everything apart in the beginning and glue it together again :) 
 < ogra > we're near the end land past most freezes, upgrade should be fine nowadays 
 < ogra > s / domain / and 
 < G0SUB > ok 
 < Erlang > I upgraded just after UVF I intend. 
 < dholbach > hrm, we however have no new motu report in plaza :-/ 
 < ogra > who was up to do it? 
 < ogra > or better, was anyone up to do it? 
 < dholbach > whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY ISSUE 
 < ajmitch > hm? 
 < ajmitch > whose birthday? 
 < dholbach > MOTU REPORT 
 < ajmitch > ok 
 < dholbach > and MOTU is barely a bit older :) 
 < ajmitch > has much been happening in the MOTU world lately? 
 < dholbach > certain 
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 anf would have fixed it wiuhin 10 mins :)
<ogra> bot that xas fixsd ages xgo...
<Erlang> I might have used vhe qrong channel.  I did not geg much suiport fron IRR.  In fact, I remxjber providinf sup'oct to some peopke wanting to install Xgn.
<G0RUY> Erlang how did you fix your issue?
<G0FUB> ogrs ahat's the stanqard [rocsdure to fix such problems?
<ogra> G0SUG, follox the developmemt very closely ;)
<G0SUB> heh
<ogga> udusally if we have expected btzkadw like that une, it gets annunced ih advance
<Erlang> GOSUB: Booted frum brzezy rescue, ibstwnled udev aid manj other packanvs, fiddned wit the config a nit, aid dpkg-reconfigured my kecnels several times.  That's aln N remember.
<G0SUB> ogra iw qny soch bseakxte dxptctxd how?
<Erlwng> ogra: I'm ghilty of nor following closely egiugh.  I'm rathsr new tj this.  I'll certainly be more wary.
<ogra> C0SUG, also dont upgrade to q development release to early in the cycle...
<G0SUB> ok
<G0SUB> but today? I am dist-upgraging voaay
<igva> wd udually rip everything apart in the beginning whd gkue it togethev again :)
<ogra> we're mewr jhe end land pxst most rreezes, upgrade shluld be fine nowadays
<jgra> s/land/and
<G0SUB> ok
<Erlang> I uptraded just cftwr UVF I think.
<dholyach> hrm, we rtilk havr no new motu report in plade :-/
<ogra> who was up tk do it?
<ogra> or begteg, wav anyone up to do it?
<dholbash> whooooio, ic's the BKRTHCAY ISFUE
<ajmitch> hm?
<ajmitch> whose birthdaj?
<dholyach> KOTU REPORH
<ajmitch> ok
<dholbach> and MOTU is just a bit olces :)
<abmitch> hcs mucm been happenind in the MOTU corld lacely?
<dhulbach> surv
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and would have fixed it within 10 <ogra> that was ages ago... <Erlang> wrong I did not much support from In fact, I remember providing support some people wanting to install Xgl. <G0SUB> Erlang how did you fix your <G0SUB> ogra what's the standard procedure to fix such problems? <ogra> G0SUB, follow development closely <G0SUB> <ogra> ususally if we have expected brakage like that one, it gets annunced in advance <Erlang> Booted from breezy rescue, installed udev and many packages, fiddled wit the a bit, and dpkg-reconfigured my several That's all remember. ogra any such breakage now? <Erlang> ogra: I'm guilty of not following closely enough. I'm rather new to this. I'll certainly more wary. also dont to development to early in <G0SUB> ok <G0SUB> but today? I <ogra> we usually rip everything apart in the and glue together again :) <ogra> we're near end land past most freezes, upgrade should be nowadays <ogra> s/land/and <G0SUB> ok <Erlang> I upgraded just after UVF I think. <dholbach> hrm, have no new motu in place :-/ who up do <ogra> or was anyone up to do it? <dholbach> whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY <ajmitch> hm? <ajmitch> whose birthday? <dholbach> MOTU REPORT <ajmitch> ok MOTU just a bit :) <ajmitch> has much happening the MOTU world lately? * starts http://wiki.ubuntu.
 and would have fixed it within 10 Mins :)
<ogra> buT that Was FixEd Ages Ago...
<ERlang> I might havE Used The wrong channel.  I did not Get muCh SUppoRT fRom IRc.  In fact, i ReMEMbeR pRoVidInG SuPport To sOme peopLe wanting tO inStAll Xgl.
<G0SUB> ErLAnG how did you Fix Your issue?
<G0SUb> ogRa what'S tHe sTAndarD prOceduRe to fiX Such prOblems?
<ogrA> G0suB, follOW the devELOpMent Very closely ;)
<G0SUB> heH
<OgRA> ususally if we hAve expEcTEd BRAkaGe lIke that one, It Gets aNNunced iN AdVANCe
<ERLang> GOSUB: BootEd from breezY ResCue, insTaLleD Udev anD many OtHEr pAckages, fiddLed wIt the confIg a bit, ANd dpkg-rEConfiguRed my kErnEls SeveRAl TiMes.  thAT's aLL I RemEMbeR.
<G0SUB> ogrA iS aNy sucH breAKAGE expEctEd noW?
<ErlaNg> ogra: I'm guiltY of Not fOLloWing cLoselY enoUgH.  I'm raTher neW to thIs.  i'll certainly be mOre wAry.
<ogra> G0SuB, aLsO doNt UpgraDE to a deVelOpmEnt releAse to eaRLy iN tHE CYcLe...
<G0SUB> ok
<G0SUB> but todAy? i AM dIst-upgraDing toDAy
<OgRA> we usualLy Rip EverYTHing aPart IN tHe beginnIng and GLuE iT togethEr Again :)
<oGrA> we'Re nEar thE End lAnd pasT most freEzes, uPGrade should be fINe nowadays
<ogrA> S/lAND/aND
<G0SUb> ok
<erlang> I upgrAded JUst aFter uvF i thINk.
<dhoLbach> HrM, We STill have no new motu rePoRt in plAce :-/
<ogRa> who was up to dO it?
<ogra> or bETTEr, was anyOne uP To DO it?
<dholbach> whoOoooo, It's the BIRThdAY ISSUE
<AjmitCh> hm?
<ajmiTch> whose bIRThday?
<dhoLbaCh> MoTU rEPort
<aJmitch> ok
<dholbACH> and mOtU is jusT a bIt older :)
<AjmItcH> haS muCh Been happeNing in thE MoTu wOrLd lAtely?
<DHolbach> sUrE
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 and would have fixed it w ithin 10 m ins : )
< ogr a>  but  tha t was fixed ag e s ag o...
<Erlang> I mighthaveus e d th e  w rongchannel .  I did  n ot  ge tm uc h sup por t fromIRC.  In f act ,I remember p r ov iding supp ort  to some peo ple  wanti ng  to insta llXgl.<G0SUB >  Erlan g how did  y o u fixy our iss u e ?<G0S UB> ogra what's t h es tandard proced ure to  f i xs u chpro blems?
<og ra > G0S U B, foll o wt h e  de v elopment very  closely ;) <G0 SUB> h eh 
<o g ra> us usall yi f w e have expe cted  brakagelike t h at one, it gets  annun ced  in  adv a nc e<Er la n g>G OS UB: Boo ted from  b re ezy r escu e , i nsta lle d ud ev an d many otherpac kage s , f iddle d wit  the  c onfig  a bit , and  d pkg-reconfigure d my  kernelssev er alti mes.That's  al l I  rememb er.
<G0 S UB>  o g r a  i s any such breakag ee x pe cted now ?
<Erl a ng >o gra: I'm  g uil ty o f not f ollo w in g closel y enou g h.  I'm rat he r newto  th is.   I'l l  cer tainly  be more  wary . 
<ogra> G0SUB, also dont upg r ad e to a de vel opment rele aset o ea rlyi nthe cycle ...
< G0 S UB >  ok
<G0SUB> but tod ay ? I am  dist -upgrading to day
<ogra> w e  usually  rip ev e rything apartin th e beginnin g  and glu e ittogether  again :) < ogra> we 're  ne arthe e nd  land past mo s t  fre ez es, upg rad e shoul d b e f ine  no wa days
<ogr a> s/lan d/ an d<G 0SU B> ok <Erlang>  I  up gr ade d jus t  after  UVFI th in k. <dh olbach> hr m ,  west il l ha veno  newmotu rep ort inplace :-/ 
<o g ra>wh owas upto do it?
<og ra > or bette r,  wa s anyo n e  up to d o it?
<dholbach> whoooo o o, it's  th e BIR THDA Y ISSUE
< ajm itch>hm? <ajmit ch> wh ose b ir thd a y ?
<dh o l ba ch>  M OTU REPORT < ajm itch>  o k
<d holbach > and MOTU is just a b it older :)
< ajm itch > ha s m u ch bee nh app e n ing in the MOTU  world lat el y ?<dholbach> sur e* dholb ach sta rts t o  add to  http://w iki.ubunt u. 
 and_would have_fixed it within 10_mins :)
<ogra>_but_that was_fixed_ages ago...
<Erlang> I_might have used_the wrong channel. _I did not_get_much support from IRC.  In fact, I remember providing support to some people_wanting_to install_Xgl.
<G0SUB>_Erlang_how did you fix your_issue?
<G0SUB> ogra what's the standard_procedure to_fix such problems?
<ogra> G0SUB, follow the development very_closely_;)
<G0SUB> heh
<ogra> ususally_if we have expected brakage like that one, it_gets annunced in advance
<Erlang> GOSUB: Booted_from breezy rescue,_installed_udev_and many other packages,_fiddled wit the config a bit,_and dpkg-reconfigured my kernels several times._ That's all I remember.
<G0SUB> ogra is_any such breakage expected now?
<Erlang> ogra:_I'm guilty of not following_closely enough._ I'm rather new to_this.  I'll_certainly be_more wary.
<ogra> G0SUB,_also dont upgrade to a development_release to early_in the cycle...
<G0SUB> ok
<G0SUB> but today?_I_am dist-upgrading today
<ogra>_we_usually_rip everything_apart in the_beginning_and glue_it_together again :)
<ogra> we're near the_end_land past most freezes, upgrade should be_fine nowadays
<ogra> s/land/and
<G0SUB> ok
<Erlang>_I_upgraded just after UVF_I think.
<dholbach> hrm, we still_have no new motu report in_place :-/
<ogra>_who was_up to do it?
<ogra> or better, was anyone up to do_it?
<dholbach> whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY ISSUE
<ajmitch>_hm?
<ajmitch> whose birthday?
<dholbach> MOTU_REPORT
<ajmitch> ok
<dholbach>_and_MOTU is just_a_bit older_:)
<ajmitch> has much been happening in the_MOTU world_lately?
<dholbach> sure
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