:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
<nigelb> rgs_: if you can work towards getting your package, it would be great.  we could then sync it quite easily
<nigelb> getting your packge *in debian*
<rgs_> yeah, I am looking for some documentation that will let me map my.spec hacking logic into.deb creation logic
<rgs_> sort of when you migrate from subversion to git style of doc :)
<nigelb> ah, I dont think I know of any.
<nigelb> you can see the debian new maintainer's guide, which is kinda easy
<ScottK> rgs_: IIRC the alien package will ~ do this, but that would just give you a starting place to work towards an actual package worth uploading.
<ScottK> It's certainly not possible to do a complete conversion (in either direction)
<pochu> doesn't alien convert binary packages (and not source)?
<ScottK> Not sure.
<ScottK> The only think I've ever used it for is to alien --tgz a srpm to get the patches out of it.
<ScottK> It gives you a nice tarball with one patch per text file ready to examine.
<pochu> the description contains
<pochu>  This is a tool only suitable for binary packages.
<pochu> but I've never tried to use it with source packages
<ScottK> OK.  Nevermind then.
<cyphermox> rgs_, my guess is it should be possible to write a script to grab the various parts of a.spec and massage them into the prerm/postinst/etc. files necessary and a few other chunks of texts that would then make a basis for a debian/rules file. That's if that hasn't already been done, but I've never heard of it before
<nigelb> thoughts on this debdiff? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40924067/chromium-browser_5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuntu2.debdiff
<micahg> nigelb: I'd like to know if it requires an FFe as I need to make a similar change to Thunderbird
<nigelb> micahg: I dont
:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide 
 < nigelb > rgs _: if you can work towards getting your package, it would be great.   we could then synchronize it quite well 
 < nigelb > catch your packge * in debian * 
 < rgs _ > yeah, I am looking for some software documentation that will let me map my.spec hack logic into.deb creation logic 
 < rgs _ > sort of when you migrate from subversion to rotter dash of doc :) 
 < nigelb > ah, I do nt think I acknowledge of any. 
 < nigelb > you can see the debian new upholder's guide, which is kinda easy 
 < ScottK > rgs _: IIRC the alien package will ~ do this, but that would barely give you a starting place to work towards an actual package deserving uploading. 
 < ScottK > It's certainly not possible to perform a complete conversion (in either direction) 
 < pochu > doesn't estrange convert binary package (and not source)? 
 < ScottK > Not certain. 
 < ScottK > The only think I've ever use it for is to alien --tgz a srpm to get the patches out of it. 
 < ScottK > It gives you a nice tarball with one bandage per text file ready to examine. 
 < pochu > the description contains 
 < pochu >   This is a tool only suitable for binary packages. 
 < pochu > but I've never tried to use it with beginning packages 
 < ScottK > OK.   Nevermind then. 
 < cyphermox > rgs _, my guess is it should be possible to spell a script to grab the various parts of a.spec and massage them into the prerm / postinst / etc. file necessary and a few other chunks of texts that would then make a footing for a debian / rules file. That's if that hasn't already been done, but I've never heard of it before 
 < nigelb > thoughts on this debdiff? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40924067/chromium-browser_5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuntu2.debdiff 
 < micahg > nigelb: I'd like to know if it requires an FFe as I need to make a similar change to Thunderbird 
 < nigelb > micahg: I serve nt
:  hhtps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagikgGuide
<nigelb> rgs_: if yon can wkrk towafds getting your package, it xoule be treat.  we could then shnc it qupte easilt
<nigtlb> getting your 'zckge *ik debjwn*
<rgv_> yeah, I am looling for smme documentathov chat will let me map my.spec hacking jogic imtl.deb creation jogib
<rds_> skgt of when you migrate from subbersion to git style of doc :)
<nigelb> ah, I dont tjink I know of any.
<nigepb> you can wee eye debian ned maintaintr'v guide, whjch is kinda easy
<ScottK> rgs_: IIRZ the alien pacjate ahll ~ do thiw, but that would mlst giva you a starting placc to xork towards an actual parkage worth uploadind.
<ScottK> Id's certainly not powsuble jo do a cunpldte cpnbersioj (ii either didection)
<pochy> doesn't alien convtrt vinary packagss (and njt source)?
<ScottK> Not sure.
<ScottK> The only thjnk I've ever used it foe is to alien --tgz a stpm to get the patches out of it.
<ScottK> It gives you a nice darbamu wnbm ond pwtch per text file ready to examine.
<pochu> the qssvrpption contains
<poghu>  This is a took lnki suitable for binarv pzckages.
<pochu> but I'ge nevet triee to use yt woth source packages
<ScottK> OJ.  Nevermind rhen.
<cyphermox> rgs_, ly guess is it xhoulc be possible to write c scrilt to grab hhe variohr parts of a.spec anc kassage ufem into the preri/postinst/xtc. fnles necdssaty and w few otheg chukns of texts that wluld jhen mdke a basid for a debian/rules file. That's mh that hasn't slseagy been bone, bmt I've never hewrd of it befote
<nigelb> choughgs on this debdifh? http://launch[adlibrarian.naj/40924067/chromium-browver_5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuneu2.devdifd
<micahg> vigelb: I'd like to know pf it eequires an FFe as I vsed to make a snoular change to Yhuvdewbprd
<iigelf> micahg: I dott
: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide <nigelb> rgs_: if you can getting package, it be great. we easily getting your packge debian* <rgs_> yeah, am looking for some documentation that let me map my.spec hacking logic into.deb creation logic <rgs_> sort of when migrate from subversion to git style of doc :) <nigelb> ah, I dont I of <nigelb> can see the debian new maintainer's guide, which is kinda easy <ScottK> rgs_: IIRC the alien will ~ do this, but that would just you a starting place work towards an actual package uploading. It's certainly possible do complete conversion (in direction) <pochu> doesn't alien convert binary packages (and not source)? <ScottK> Not sure. <ScottK> The only think ever used is to --tgz srpm get the patches it. <ScottK> It gives you a one patch per text file ready to examine. the description <pochu> This is a tool only for binary packages. <pochu> but I've never tried use it with source packages <ScottK> OK. Nevermind then. <cyphermox> rgs_, my guess is it possible to write a to grab the parts a.spec massage into the files necessary and a few other chunks of texts that would make a basis for a debian/rules file. That's if that been but I've never of it before <nigelb> on debdiff? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40924067/chromium-browser_5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuntu2.debdiff <micahg> nigelb: to if FFe I to make a similar to Thunderbird <nigelb> micahg: I
:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagiNgGuide
<nigElb> rgS_: if You CaN worK towArds getting youR PackAge, it would be great.  we couLd theN sYNc it QUiTe easIly
<nigeLB> gETTinG yOuR paCkGE *iN debiAn*
<rGs_> yeah, I Am looking fOr sOmE documentatiON tHat will let Me mAp my.spec hackIng Logic iNtO.deB CreatIon Logic
<Rgs_> sorT Of when You migratE fROm subvERsion to GIT sTyle Of doc :)
<nigelb> ah, I donT ThINk I know of any.
<niGelb> yoU cAN sEE The DebIan new mainTaIner's GUide, whiCH iS KINda EAsy
<ScottK> rgs_: IiRC the alien PAckAge wilL ~ dO thIS, but thAt wouLd JUst Give you a staRtinG place to wOrk towARds an acTUal packAge worTh uPloAdinG.
<scOtTK> IT's CErtAInLy nOT poSsible to Do A cOmpleTe coNVERSion (In eItheR direCtion)
<pochu> doeSn't AlieN ConVert bInary PackAgEs (and Not souRce)?
<ScOtTK> Not sure.
<ScottK> the oNly think I'Ve eVeR usEd It for IS to aliEn --tGz a Srpm to gEt the paTCheS oUT OF iT.
<ScottK> It gives you a NiCE TaRball witH one paTCh PeR Text file ReAdy To exAMIne.
<poChu> tHE dEscriptiOn contAInS
<pOchu>  ThiS iS a tool OnLy sUitAble fOR binAry pacKages.
<pocHu> but i'Ve never tried to USe it with sourcE PaCKAgES
<ScoTtK> oK.  Nevermind Then.
<CYpheRmox> RGs_, My gUEss is It shoUlD Be POssible to write a scriPt To grab The vaRious parts of a.Spec and masSAGE them intO the PReRM/postinst/etc. fiLes neCessary and A Few other ChunkS of texts That would THEn make a bAsiS foR a dEbiAN/RuLes file. That's iF THat hAsN't alreaDy bEen done, But i've NevEr hEaRd of it befOre
<nigelB> tHoUgHtS on This dEBdiff? httP://lAunChPadLibraRIan.net/40924067/ChromIum-bRoWsER_5.0.307.9~r39052-0uBuntu2.deBDiFF
<MicaHg> NiGelb: i'd lIkE to knOw if IT reQuires aN FFe as I neEd tO Make A sImIlar chaNge to ThunderbIrD
<nigelb> micAhG: I dOnt
:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com /Packaging Guide 
<n ige lb > rg s_:if you can wor k  tow ards getting your pack age,it woul d  b e gre at.  we co u l d t he nsyn ci tquite  ea sily
<n igelb> get tin gyour packge* in  debian*
< rgs _> yeah, I a m l ooking  f ors ome d ocu menta tion t h at wil l let mema p  my.sp e c hacki n g  l ogic  into.deb creatio n  l o gic
<rgs_> sor t of w he n  y o u  mi gra te from su bv ersio n  to git st y l e  of doc :)
<nigel b> ah, I do n t t hink I  k now of any .
<ni ge l b>you can see  the  debian n ew mai n tainer' s  guide,  which  is  ki ndae as y<Sc ot t K>r gs _:I IRC  the ali en  p ackag e wi l l ~  dothi s, b ut th at would just  gi ve y o u a  star tingplac eto wo rk tow ardsan  actual package  wor th upload ing .<Sc ot tK> I t 's cer tai nly  not po ssiblet o d oa c om plete conversion ( in e it her dire ction) <p oc h u> doesn 't  al ienc o nvert  bin a ry  package s (and no tsource) ?<Scott K>  No t s ure.< Scot tK> Th e only t hinkI 've ever usedi t for is to a l ie n -- t gz a  sr pm to get t he p a tche s ou t  o f i t .
<Sc ottK>  I t  g i ves you a nice tarb al l with  onepatch per tex t file rea d y to exami ne.< po c hu> the descri ption  contains< pochu> Thisis a too l only su i t able for  bi nar y p ack a g es .
<pochu> but I 'vene ver tri edto useitwit h s our ce  packages 
<ScottK >OK . N eve rmind then.
<c yp her mo x>rgs_, my gue ss is  itsh ou l d b e possi b le t o wr it ea sc rip tto gr ab t h e v ariousparts ofa.s p ec a nd  m assagethem into the  p rerm/posti ns t/e tc. fi l e s necess ary and a few other chu n ks of t ext s tha t wo uld thenmak e a ba sis for adebian /rule sfil e .  That ' s  i f t ha t hasn't a l r ead y bee ndone , but I 've never heard of itbefore
<nigel b>thou g h ts  on th i s d eb d iff ? http://launchpa dlibrarian .n e t/ 40924067/c h rom iu m-brows er_5.0. 307.9 ~ r39052- 0ubuntu2. debdiff
< mi cahg > nig elb: I'd l ike to k now if it requi r es  an F Feas I n ee d t o mak e a si m ila r cha nge to  T hunder bird<n igelb> m icahg: I dont
: _https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
<nigelb> rgs_:_if you can work_towards getting_your_package, it_would_be great. _we could then_sync it quite easily
<nigelb>_getting your packge_*in_debian*
<rgs_> yeah, I am looking for some documentation that will let me map my.spec_hacking_logic into.deb_creation_logic
<rgs_>_sort of when you migrate_from subversion to git style_of doc_:)
<nigelb> ah, I dont think I know of_any.
<nigelb>_you can see_the debian new maintainer's guide, which is kinda easy
<ScottK>_rgs_: IIRC the alien package will_~ do this,_but_that_would just give you_a starting place to work towards_an actual package worth uploading.
<ScottK> It's_certainly not possible to do a complete_conversion (in either direction)
<pochu> doesn't alien_convert binary packages (and not_source)?
<ScottK> Not_sure.
<ScottK> The only think I've_ever used it_for is_to alien --tgz_a srpm to get the patches_out of it.
<ScottK>_It gives you a nice tarball_with_one patch per_text_file_ready to_examine.
<pochu> the description_contains
<pochu>_ This_is_a tool only suitable for binary_packages.
<pochu>_but I've never tried to use it_with source packages
<ScottK> OK.__Nevermind then.
<cyphermox> rgs_, my_guess is it should be_possible to write a script to_grab the_various parts_of a.spec and massage them into the prerm/postinst/etc. files necessary and_a few other chunks of texts_that would then make_a basis_for_a debian/rules file._That's_if that_hasn't already been done, but I've never_heard of_it before
<nigelb> thoughts on this debdiff?_http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40924067/chromium-browser_5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuntu2.debdiff
<micahg> nigelb: I'd like_to_know if it requires an FFe_as I need to make a_similar change to Thunderbird
<nigelb> micahg:_I_dont