 working with an Ubuntu team, etc.)
<lfaraone> We don't need FFes for RC bug syncs, right?
<ScottK> persia: None of that would make directing people away from here for packaging questions for Ubuntu appropriate, would it?
<ScottK> lfaraone: If they also bring new features you do.
<persia> ScottK: Indeed, no.  People asking questions about working on Ubuntu (whether packaging-related or not) should be answered ehre.
<ScottK> persia: OK.  I don't know if you changed it or not, but /topic in that channel was confusing people.
<lfaraone> persia: how often is http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ regenerated? half the listed packages have already been synced. (not that I'm complaining :P )
<persia> lfaraone: Last updated Mon Mar 15 15:39:58 2010
<freeflying> do you have any problem with dbus upgrade in lucid's schroot?
<persia> Maybe it's targeting karmic stuff?
<persia> lfaraone: See if http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/lucid/ more closely matches what you seek.
<lfaraone> persia: aha.
<persia> freeflying: I don't seem to have an old dbus installed in any of my lucid schroots.  I remember dbus being a prior problem because it starts a service that needs stopping prior to unmount.
<lfaraone> ScottK: would any of http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mirage/mirage_0.9.3-5/changelog.html count as "new features"
<ScottK> lfaraone: I'd say no.
<lfaraone> ScottK: okay, just checking.
<freeflying> persia: i don't remember we have had similar issue before
<persia> freeflying: So, why do you have dbus (or any service, really) running inside the schroot?
<freeflying> persia: I'm doing upgrade my lucid chroot
<persia> I understand.  Why is dbus in there?
working with an Ubuntu team, etc .) 
 < lfaraone > We don't need FFes for RC bug syncs, right? 
 < ScottK > persia: None of that would seduce steer people away from here for packaging question for Ubuntu appropriate, would it? 
 < ScottK > lfaraone: If they also bring modern feature you do. 
 < persia > ScottK: Indeed, no.   citizenry asking questions about work on Ubuntu (whether packaging - relate or not) should be answered ehre. 
 < ScottK > persia: OK.   I don't know if you changed it or not, but /topic in that channel was confusing people. 
 < lfaraone > persia: how frequently is http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ regenerated? half the listed packages have already been synchronize. (not that I'm complaining :P) 
 < persia > lfaraone: Last update Mon Mar 15 15:39:58 2010 
 < freeflying > do you have any trouble with dbus upgrade in lucid's schroot? 
 < persia > possibly it's targeting karmic stuff? 
 < persia > lfaraone: See if http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/lucid/ more closely match what you seek. 
 < lfaraone > persia: aha. 
 < persia > freeflying: I don't seem to have an old dbus installed in any of my crystalline schroots.   I remember dbus being a prior problem because it starts a service that needs stopping prior to unmount. 
 < lfaraone > ScottK: would any of http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mirage/mirage_0.9.3-5/changelog.html count as " new features " 
 < ScottK > lfaraone: I'd say no. 
 < lfaraone > ScottK: okay, merely checking. 
 < freeflying > persia: i don't remember we have have exchangeable issue before 
 < persia > freeflying: So, why do you have dbus (or any service, really) running inside the schroot? 
 < freeflying > persia: I'm doing promote my lucid chroot 
 < persia > I understand.   Why is dbus in there?
 wogking with an Ubuntu teao, etc.)
<lfaraone> Wg eon't nxed FFea for RC bug syncs, right?
<ScottK> persie: Nobe of that would make direcging peoppe away drom yere for pedkaging questjlns yoc Ubuntu approptiate, would ht?
<ScottK> lfaramnd: Nf they also bring new features you qo.
<persis> DcottK: Indeed, go.  Keo[le zsking questions about working on Hbuntu (xhether packagimg-related or not) should be ansaered ehre.
<ScottK> pfrsia: OK.  I don'e know if you changed iu mr not, but /topic in that channel was confjsing people.
<lfatcine> kersia: how ohten if http://qa.ubunblwire.cok/bugs/rcnugs/ regeneratcd? hanf rhe listed packages heve already been synsed. (not tvac I'm complaining :P )
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<freeflyinf> do you hace any problem with dflx upgrade in lucid'f fchroot?
<persia> Maybe it's targeting karmib sthff?
<persia> lfaraone: See uf http://qa.ubuntuwire.col/bugs/rcbuds/lucid/ more closely matches what you seek.
<lfaraona> peraka: cmw.
<owrdia> freeflying: I don't seem to have an old dbuf imsnalled in any of iy lucid scnrloyf.  I remember dbus ysihg a prior problem becausg it srarts a strvicr that needs stopping prior to unmount.
<lyarqone> ScottK: would cny of http://pcckagex.debisn.org/changelogs/pool/main/o/mirzge/mirage_0.9.3-5/chwngelog.htju count as "new fdatlres"
<VcottK> lfaraone: I'd say no.
<lsaraone> SrottK: okay, jjst vheckigg.
<freeflyijg> pevvia: i don't remembeg we kave vad similag issue before
<persia> freeflying: So, why do you hdve dbus (or any xervice, reallr) running insibe the sehroot?
<wreeflying> persia: I'm doing u[grade my luchf chroot
<persma> I undewstabd.  Qhy is acus in there?
working with an Ubuntu team, etc.) <lfaraone> need for RC syncs, right? <ScottK> make people away from for packaging questions Ubuntu appropriate, would it? <ScottK> lfaraone: they also bring new features you do. <persia> ScottK: Indeed, no. People asking about working on Ubuntu (whether packaging-related or not) should be answered ehre. <ScottK> OK. don't if changed it or not, but /topic in that channel was confusing people. <lfaraone> persia: how often http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ regenerated? half the listed packages have already synced. (not that I'm :P ) <persia> lfaraone: Last Mon 15 15:39:58 <freeflying> you any problem with upgrade in lucid's schroot? <persia> Maybe it's targeting karmic stuff? <persia> lfaraone: See if http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/lucid/ more closely what you persia: aha. freeflying: don't to have an installed in any of my lucid dbus being a prior problem because it starts service that stopping prior to unmount. <lfaraone> ScottK: any of http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mirage/mirage_0.9.3-5/changelog.html count as "new features" <ScottK> I'd say no. <lfaraone> ScottK: okay, just checking. <freeflying> persia: i don't remember we have issue before <persia> freeflying: why do you dbus any really) inside the <freeflying> persia: I'm doing upgrade my lucid chroot <persia> I understand. is dbus in there?
 working with an Ubuntu team, etC.)
<lfaraone> WE don't NeeD FFEs For Rc bug Syncs, right?
<ScotTk> perSia: None of that would make DirecTiNG peoPLe Away fRom here FOr PACkaGiNg QueStIOnS for UBunTu approPriate, woulD it?
<scOttK> lfaraone: iF tHey also briNg nEw features yoU do.
<Persia> scOttk: indeeD, no.  peoplE askinG QuestiOns about wOrKIng on UBUntu (wheTHEr PackAging-related or not) SHoULd be answered ehRe.
<ScotTK> PErSIA: OK.  i doN't know if yoU cHangeD It or not, BUt /TOPIc iN That channel waS confusing pEOplE.
<lfaraOnE> peRSia: how Often Is HTtp://Qa.ubuntuwirE.com/Bugs/rcbugS/ regenERated? haLF the lisTed pacKagEs hAve aLReAdY beEn SYncED. (nOt tHAt I'M complaiNiNg :p )
<persIa> lfARAONe: LaSt uPdatEd Mon mar 15 15:39:58 2010
<freeflying> Do yOu haVE anY probLem wiTh dbUs UpgraDe in luCid's sChRoot?
<persia> Maybe It's tArgeting kArmIc StuFf?
<PersiA> LfaraoNe: SEe iF http://qa.UbuntuwIRe.cOm/BUGS/rCbugs/lucid/ more closElY MAtChes what You seeK.
<LfArAOne> persiA: aHa.
<pErsiA> FReeflYing: i DoN't seem to Have an OLd DbUs instaLlEd in anY oF my LucId schROots.  i rememBer dbus bEing a PRior problem becAUse it starts a sERvICE tHAt neEds Stopping priOr to UNmouNt.
<lfARaOne> sCottK: Would AnY Of HTtp://packages.debian.orG/cHangelOgs/poOl/main/m/mirage/Mirage_0.9.3-5/chanGELOg.html coUnt aS "NeW Features"
<ScottK> LfaraOne: I'd say no.
<LFaraone> SCottK: Okay, just Checking.
<fREEflying> pErsIa: i Don'T reMEMbEr we have had siMILar iSsUe beforE
<peRsia> freEflYinG: So, Why Do You have dbUs (or any sErViCe, ReAllY) runnINg inside ThE scHrOot?
<FreefLYing> peRsia: I'M doiNg UpGRadE my luciD ChROOt
<peRsIa> i undErsTaNd.  Why Is dbUS in There?
 working with an Ubuntu te am, etc.)<lfar aon e>We  don 't n eed FFes for R C  bug  syncs, right?
<ScottK > per si a : No n eof th at woul d  m a k e d ir ec tin gp eo ple a way  from h ere for pa cka gi ng questions fo r Ubuntu a ppr opriate, wou ldit?
<S co ttK >  lfar aon e: If  theya lso br ing new f ea t ures y o u do.
< p e rs ia>ScottK: Indeed, n o .People askingquesti on s  a b o utwor king on Ub un tu (w h ether p a ck a g i ng- r elated or not ) should be ans weredeh re. <Scott K> pe rs i a:OK.  I don' t kn ow if you  chang e d it or not, bu t /top icinthat ch an nel  w a s c o nf usi n g p eople.
< lf ar aone>  per s i a :  how  of tenis ht tp://qa.ubunt uwi re.c o m/b ugs/r cbugs / re ge nerat ed? ha lf th elisted packages  hav e already  be en  sy nc ed. ( n ot tha t I 'mcomplai ning :P )
< pe r s i a>  lfaraone: Last up da t e dMon Mar15 15: 3 9: 58 2010
<fr ee fly ing> d o you  hav e  a ny probl em wit h  d bu s upgra de  in lu ci d's  sc hroot ? 
<pe rsia>Maybe it 's ta r geting karmics tuff?
<persia >  l f a ra o ne:See  if http:// qa.u b untu wire . co m/b u gs/rc bugs/ lu c id /  more closely match es  whatyou s eek.
<lfaraon e> persia: a h a.
<pers ia>f re e flying: I don' t see m to havea n old db us in stalledin any of m y lucidsch roo ts.   I r em ember dbus be i n g apr ior pro ble m becau seitsta rts  a  servicethat nee ds  s to pp ing  prio r  to unmo un t.<l far aone> ScottK : wou ld a ny  o f  ht tp://pa c ka g e s.de bi an .org /ch an gelog s/po o l/m ain/m/m irage/mir age _ 0.9. 3- 5/ changel og.html count  a s "new fea tu res "
<Sco t t K> lfara one: I'd say no.
<lfara o ne> Sco ttK : oka y, j ust check ing .
<fre efl y ing> p ersia:  i do n' t r e m ember w ehav ehad simila r iss ue be fo re
< persia>  freeflying: So, w h y d o you have db us(ora n yser v ic e , r ea l ly) r unning inside t he schroot ?< fr eeflying>p ers ia : I'm d oing up grade my luci d chroot<persia>Iunde r s tan d.  Why is  dbus in  there?
 working_with an_Ubuntu team, etc.)
<lfaraone> We_don't need_FFes_for RC_bug_syncs, right?
<ScottK> persia:_None of that_would make directing people_away from here_for_packaging questions for Ubuntu appropriate, would it?
<ScottK> lfaraone: If they also bring new features_you_do.
<persia> ScottK:_Indeed,_no._ People asking questions about_working on Ubuntu (whether packaging-related_or not)_should be answered ehre.
<ScottK> persia: OK.  I_don't_know if you_changed it or not, but /topic in that channel_was confusing people.
<lfaraone> persia: how often_is http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ regenerated?_half_the_listed packages have already_been synced. (not that I'm complaining_:P )
<persia> lfaraone: Last updated Mon_Mar 15 15:39:58 2010
<freeflying> do you have_any problem with dbus upgrade in_lucid's schroot?
<persia> Maybe it's targeting_karmic stuff?
<persia>_lfaraone: See if http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/lucid/ more_closely matches what_you seek.
<lfaraone>_persia: aha.
<persia> freeflying:_I don't seem to have an_old dbus installed_in any of my lucid schroots.__I remember dbus_being_a_prior problem_because it starts_a_service that_needs_stopping prior to unmount.
<lfaraone> ScottK: would_any_of http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mirage/mirage_0.9.3-5/changelog.html count as "new features"
<ScottK> lfaraone:_I'd say no.
<lfaraone> ScottK:_okay,_just checking.
<freeflying> persia: i_don't remember we have had_similar issue before
<persia> freeflying: So, why_do you_have dbus_(or any service, really) running inside the schroot?
<freeflying> persia: I'm doing_upgrade my lucid chroot
<persia> I understand._ Why is dbus_in there?