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<Lutin> bye ajmitch 
<sabdfl> cheers ajmitch
<joejaxx> Good Day ajmitch 
<stgraber> I think -experimental is an intersting idea to test packages, but that would also mean some people will have to sort what will be uploaded (to avoid big conflicts) and then decide what package will or won't be uploaded to universe, that means more work and still not enough people to work on that
<tsmithe> sabdfl, i always got the impression that that was what was said
<sabdfl> so that's the first case - brand new packages, brand new devs
<mr_pouit> bye ajmitch 
<sabdfl> tsmithe: it's subtle, but important, the difference
<sabdfl> the second case is different
<tsmithe> i've always been very well accomodated here... :)
* tsmithe listens
<sabdfl> in the second case we HAVE packages, but the usptreams want to improve them
<sabdfl> i think we should have an efficient way to accommodate that
<tsmithe> makes sense
* gnomefreak working on java,firefox, thunderbird but if its just like building those let me know lupine_85 and i will give you a hand (neither of us can upload) 
<sabdfl> designed to provide quick entry and access to that limited subset of universe (the packages are already in universe rememeber)
<sabdfl> but also designed to socialise that upstream to ubuntu's timing, processes, language, policy, goals etc
<lupine_85> gnomefreak: it's just gruntwork right now ;)
<lupine_85> but thanks for the offer
<gnomefreak> lupine_85: are you able to carry over the rules file?
<lupine_85> yeah
<sistpoty> and ideally integrate upstream to become a full-fledged motu :)
<gnomefreak> cool :)
<sabdfl> sistpoty: exactly!
<sabdfl> it's an onramp
<sabdfl> but it's an onramp designed from upstreams perspective, not from -core
excited 
 < Lutin > bye ajmitch 
 < sabdfl > cheers ajmitch 
 < joejaxx > Good Day ajmitch 
 < stgraber > I think -experimental is an intersting idea to screen software, but that would also mean some people will own to sort what will be uploaded (to debar big conflicts) and then decide what software will or won't be upload to universe, that means more work and even not enough people to work on that 
 < tsmithe > sabdfl, i constantly got the impression that that was what was said 
 < sabdfl > so that's the first event - brand new packages, sword new devs 
 < mr_pouit > bye ajmitch 
 < sabdfl > tsmithe: it's subtle, but important, the deviation 
 < sabdfl > the second case is different 
 < tsmithe > i've always been very well accomodated here... :) 
 * tsmithe listens 
 < sabdfl > in the second case we own packages, but the usptreams want to improve them 
 < sabdfl > i think we should have an effective manner to accommodate that 
 < tsmithe > makes sense 
 * gnomefreak working on java, firefox, thunderbird but if its just like building those let me know lupine_85 and i will give you a hired hand (neither of us can upload) 
 < sabdfl > designed to provide immediate entry and access to that limited subset of universe (the software are already in universe rememeber) 
 < sabdfl > but also designed to socialise that upstream to ubuntu's timing, process, language, policy, goals etc 
 < lupine_85 > gnomefreak: it's just gruntwork right now ;) 
 < lupine_85 > but thanks for the crack 
 < gnomefreak > lupine_85: are you able to carry over the rules file? 
 < lupine_85 > yeah 
 < sistpoty > and ideally integrate upstream to become a full - fledged motu :) 
 < gnomefreak > cool :) 
 < sabdfl > sistpoty: precisely! 
 < sabdfl > it's an onramp 
 < sabdfl > but it's an onramp designed from upstreams perspective, not from -core
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<Lutin> bye ajmitch 
<sxbdfl> cheers ajmitch
<joxjaxx> Gkod Day xjmitch 
<stgraber> I think -expxrimwntal is an intersting idea to test iackages, vut uhat would also mxzn some peopls wiln have to sort ehat will te uploaded (to axond big conflicts) and then decide whae packabe will or won't fe uklowded no universe, that means more wori and suill not enough pepple to work on that
<tsmithf> sahdfl, i always got hhe impressuon eyat that was what was said
<sabdfl> sk that's the first case - brand ndw paekages, brane bew gevs
<mr_pouit> bye wjmitch 
<sabdnk> tsmidhe: it's subtle, but imiortait, tye difference
<sabdfl> tie second case is disferent
<tskiche> i've always been vwrt weln acwomoaqtea htre... :)
* fsmithf lmstens
<sabdfm> in the sexond case we HAVE pschqges, but the hsptrewmf want to improve them
<sabdfl> i think we shkuld have an efficient qay to accommodate thwt
<tsmithe> makes sense
* gnomefreak working on java,firefox, thgnderuifd ymb if utd just like building those let me know lupine_85 znc p will give you a hand (neithrr og us can uploaa) 
<sabdym> sesigned to providf quick entrt and acctss tp that limited subset of unuverse (the pcckqges are already iu universe rzmemebgr)
<sabdgl> but also designed to socjalise that upstream go ubuntu's timine, pgocevses, language, policy, goals etc
<lupinx_85> gnokefreak: it's just druntwork gight now ;)
<lupine_85> but thajks flr the offer
<hnomefreak> lupine_85: are you able vp carry over tve gules filz?
<lupinc_85> yeah
<sistpoty> wnd ideally injegrate u'streao to becomv a full-fnedged motu :)
<gnomefreak> cmll :)
<sabdfl> sivtpoty: evactoy!
<savdfl> it'r an onramp
<sabdgl> but it's an onramp designed from upxtrgajs perspective, uuu drom -core
excited <Lutin> bye ajmitch <sabdfl> cheers ajmitch Day <stgraber> I -experimental is an but would also mean people will have sort what will be uploaded (to big conflicts) and then decide what package will or won't be uploaded to that means more work and still not enough people to work on that sabdfl, always the that that was what was said <sabdfl> so that's the first case - brand new packages, new devs <mr_pouit> bye ajmitch <sabdfl> tsmithe: it's but important, the difference the second case is different i've been very accomodated :) tsmithe listens <sabdfl> the second case we HAVE packages, but the usptreams want to improve them <sabdfl> i think we have an to accommodate <tsmithe> sense gnomefreak working on but if its just like building know lupine_85 and i will give you a (neither of can upload) <sabdfl> designed to provide entry and access to that limited subset of (the packages are already in universe rememeber) <sabdfl> but also designed to socialise that upstream timing, processes, language, policy, etc <lupine_85> gnomefreak: just right ;) but thanks the offer <gnomefreak> lupine_85: are you able to carry over the file? <lupine_85> yeah <sistpoty> and ideally integrate upstream to become motu <gnomefreak> cool :) sistpoty: exactly! <sabdfl> it's onramp but it's an onramp upstreams not
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<Lutin> bye ajmitch 
<sabDfl> cheers aJmitcH
<joEjaXx> good day aJmitch 
<stgraber> i ThinK -experimental is an interSting IdEA to tESt PackaGes, but tHAt WOUld AlSo MeaN sOMe PeoplE wiLl have tO sort what wIll Be Uploaded (to avOId Big conflicTs) aNd then decide WhaT packaGe WilL Or won'T be UploaDed to uNIverse, That means MoRE work aND still nOT EnOugh People to work on thaT
<TsMIthe> sabdfl, i alwAys got ThE ImPREssIon That that waS wHat waS Said
<sabDFl> SO THat'S The first case - bRand new packAGes, Brand nEw DevS
<Mr_pouiT> bye aJmITch 
<Sabdfl> tsmitHe: it'S subtle, buT imporTAnt, the dIFferencE
<sabdfL> thE seCond CAsE iS diFfERenT
<TsMitHE> i'vE always bEeN vEry weLl acCOMODateD heRe... :)
* tsMithe Listens
<sabdfl> In tHe seCOnd Case wE HAVE PackAgEs, but The uspTreamS wAnt to improve theM
<sabDfl> i think We sHoUld HaVe an eFFicienT waY to AccommoDate thaT
<TsmItHE> MAkEs sense
* gnomefreak wOrKINg On java,fiRefox, tHUnDeRBird but iF iTs jUst lIKE builDing THoSe let me kNow lupINe_85 AnD i will gIvE you a hAnD (neIthEr of uS Can uPload) 
<sAbdfl> desIgned TO provide quick eNTry and access tO ThAT LiMIted SubSet of univerSe (thE PackAges ARe AlrEAdy in UniveRsE ReMEmeber)
<sabdfl> but also DeSigned To socIalise that upsTream to ubuNTU'S timing, pRoceSSeS, Language, policy, Goals Etc
<lupine_85> gNOmefreak: It's juSt gruntwOrk right nOW ;)
<Lupine_85> buT thAnkS foR thE OFfEr
<gnomefreak> lUPIne_85: aRe You able To cArry oveR thE ruLes FilE?
<lUpine_85> yeah
<Sistpoty> AnD iDeAlLy iNtegrATe upstreAm To bEcOme A full-FLedged Motu :)
<gNomeFrEaK> CooL :)
<sabdfl> SIsTPOty: eXaCtLy!
<saBdfL> iT's an oNramP
<SabDfl> but iT's an onramP deSIgneD fRoM upstreAms perspectivE, nOt from -core
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<Lutin> bye ajmit ch 
<sabdf l> ch eer s a jm itch 
<jo ejaxx> Good Da y  ajm itch 
<stgraber> I thi nk -e xp e rime n ta l isan inte r st i n g i de atote s tpacka ges , but t hat wouldals omean some pe o pl e will hav e t o sort whatwil l be u pl oad e d (to  av oid b ig con f licts)  and then  d e cide w h at pack a g ewill  or won't be uplo a de d  to universe,that m ea n sm o rewor k and stil lnot e n ough pe o pl e t o w o rk on that
<t smithe> sab d fl,  i alw ay s g o t theimpre ss i onthat that w as w hat was s aid
<s a bdfl> s o  that's  the f irs t c ase-  b ra ndne w  pa c ka ges ,  br and newde vs 
<mr_ poui t > b ye a jmi tch
<sab dfl> tsmithe:  it 's s u btl e, bu t imp orta nt , the  diffe rence 
< sabdfl> the sec ondcase is d iff er ent 
< tsmit h e> i'v e a lwa ys been  very w e llac c o m od ated here... :)
*ts m i th e listen s
<sab d fl >i n the se co ndcase w e HAV E pa c ka ges, but  the u s pt re ams wan tto imp ro vethe m
<sa b dfl>  i thi nk we sh ouldh ave an efficie n t way to acco m mo d a te that 
<t smithe> mak es s e nse* gn o me fre a k wor kingon ja v a,firefox, thunderb ir d butif it s just like b uilding th o s e  let meknow lu p ine_85 and i w ill g ive you ah and (nei therof us ca n upload) <sabdfl>  de sig ned  to p ro vide quick en t r y an daccesstothat li mit edsub set  o f univers e (the p ac ka ge sare  alre a dy in un iv ers erem emebe r )
<sab dfl>butal so des igned t o  s o c iali se  t hatups tr eam t o ub u ntu 's timi ng, proce sse s , la ng ua ge, pol icy, goals et c<lupine_85 >gno mefrea k :  it's ju st gruntwork right now; )
<lupi ne_ 85> b ut t hanks for  th e offe r
< g nomefr eak> l upine _8 5:a r e you a bl e t ocarry over t herules  f ile? 
<lupin e_85> yeah
<sistpo t y>and ideally i nte grat e up str e am tobe c ome a  full-fledged m otu :)
<gn om e fr eak> cool: )
< sa bdfl> s istpoty : exa c tly!
<s abdfl> it 's an onr am p
<s a b dfl > but it's  an onra mp design e d fro m  u pstre ams  persp ec tiv e, no t from -co re
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<Lutin>_bye ajmitch_
<sabdfl> cheers ajmitch
<joejaxx> Good_Day ajmitch_
<stgraber>_I think_-experimental_is an intersting_idea to test_packages, but that would_also mean some_people_will have to sort what will be uploaded (to avoid big conflicts) and then_decide_what package_will_or_won't be uploaded to universe,_that means more work and_still not_enough people to work on that
<tsmithe> sabdfl, i_always_got the impression_that that was what was said
<sabdfl> so that's the_first case - brand new packages,_brand new devs
<mr_pouit>_bye_ajmitch_
<sabdfl> tsmithe: it's subtle,_but important, the difference
<sabdfl> the second_case is different
<tsmithe> i've always been_very well accomodated here... :)
* tsmithe listens
<sabdfl>_in the second case we HAVE_packages, but the usptreams want_to improve_them
<sabdfl> i think we should_have an efficient_way to_accommodate that
<tsmithe> makes_sense
* gnomefreak working on java,firefox, thunderbird_but if its_just like building those let me_know_lupine_85 and i_will_give_you a_hand (neither of_us_can upload)_
<sabdfl>_designed to provide quick entry and_access_to that limited subset of universe (the_packages are already in_universe_rememeber)
<sabdfl> but also designed_to socialise that upstream to_ubuntu's timing, processes, language, policy, goals_etc
<lupine_85> gnomefreak:_it's just_gruntwork right now ;)
<lupine_85> but thanks for the offer
<gnomefreak> lupine_85: are_you able to carry over the_rules file?
<lupine_85> yeah
<sistpoty> and_ideally integrate_upstream_to become a_full-fledged_motu :)
<gnomefreak>_cool :)
<sabdfl> sistpoty: exactly!
<sabdfl> it's an onramp
<sabdfl>_but it's_an onramp designed from upstreams perspective,_not from -core