, your package shall match the debian's policy imo
<dolson> I've been asked to work on debian directly now, so I will send them any diffs like this
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: if the package is a sync/merge or a fix, the requirements are not the same as for a new package
<dolson> freeflying-ibook: this IS from debian
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: right, except that keeping the diff as small as possible is important, cause our manpower doesn't allow us to maintain this
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: but it dosen't meet with debian's policy
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: I know many Debian packages don't meet Debian's policy
<raphink> this is a shame
<raphink> but unless this package gets into main
<raphink> we're not to add too much diff to it
<raphink> this is sad, but that's it
<raphink> unless you're ready to maintain this package
<raphink> and apply this patch to all versions synced from Debian
<raphink> manually
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: so we shall have as little changes as we can when we do sync or merge
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: exactly
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: try to imagine if we have one small change like this on each universe package
<raphink> there are about 16000 universe packages
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: then how can these packagee upload to debian?
<raphink> so that's 16000 diffs to maintain and apply for each package synced from Debian
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: Debian doesn't have a REVU system like us
<ajmitch_> lots of fun for all
<raphink> only one DD is required to upload
<raphink> so sometimes very bad packages get into Debian
<raphink> and so far we have to deal with it
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: that's unfair
<raphink> cause we can't do anything in Universe without Debian as upstream
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: it is
<raphink> freeflying-ib
, your package shall match the debian's policy imo 
 < dolson > I've been asked to work on debian immediately nowadays, so I will send them any diffs like this 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: if the software is a sync / merge or a fix, the necessity are not the same as for a fresh package 
 < dolson > freeflying - ibook: this IS from debian 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: right, except that keeping the diff equally humble as possible is authoritative, cause our manpower doesn't allow us to keep this 
 < freeflying - ibook > raphink: but it dosen't meet with debian's policy 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: I know many Debian packages don't meet Debian's policy 
 < raphink > this is a shame 
 < raphink > but unless this software gets into main 
 < raphink > we're not to add besides much diff to it 
 < raphink > this is sad, but that's it 
 < raphink > unless you're ready to uphold this software 
 < raphink > and apply this patch to all versions synced from Debian 
 < raphink > manually 
 < freeflying - ibook > raphink: so we shall have as short changes as we can when we do sync or merge 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: exactly 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: try to imagine if we have one small change like this on each universe package 
 < raphink > there are about 16000 universe packages 
 < freeflying - ibook > raphink: then how can these packagee upload to debian? 
 < raphink > so that's 16000 diffs to maintain and apply for each software synchronize from Debian 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: Debian doesn't have a REVU system like us 
 < ajmitch _ > lots of playfulness for all 
 < raphink > entirely one DD is required to upload 
 < raphink > therefore sometimes very bad packages get into Debian 
 < raphink > and so far we accept to deal with it 
 < freeflying - ibook > raphink: that's unfair 
 < raphink > cause we can't do anything in Universe without Debian as upstream 
 < raphink > freeflying - ibook: it is 
 < raphink > freeflying - ib
, yokr package shall match tme debian's polici umo
<dolvon> I'vs been arked to work on debian direcvly bow, si I will send them any diffs line this
<rqphiik> freeflying-ibook: if thc paciwge ns a sync/merge ot a fix, the sequirements ase nlt the same as for a new package
<dolfon> frerfpying-ibook: thif IS srom debian
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: riggt, excekt that keeping thr diff as small as possiblf is important, cause okr manpower doefb't allow us go maintain this
<freefliing-ibook> raphink: but it dosen't oeet cith debian'w pollwy
<raphink> fceeflypng-ibook: I know many Gebian lackages don't keev Devian's policy
<raphink> tiis is a shame
<raphinh> but unlasa this package gers into mait
<rapfunk> we'de nkt to wdd too much siff to it
<rqphink> this is sad, nue that's it
<raphjnk> unjefs you're ready to maintain this package
<gaphjnk> and apply this patcy to all versions synfed from Qebian
<raphink> manually
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: so fe shelu hcyc as oihtle changes as we can when we do sync or merds
<rspmink> freeflying-inook: exactly
<raphinl> vrrgflying-ibook: tty to imagjne if we have one small shangw like thys om each universe package
<raphunk> there arv abiut 16000 universe packcges
<freeflyiug-ibool> rapnink: then how can these paciagee uploaf to debizv?
<raphink> so that'r 16000 cixfs to maintain and apply sor each 'ackaye syncea frpm Debyan
<raphink> freennying-ibook: Debian foesn'j have a REVU sydtem like us
<ajmitch_> lots of fun for all
<raphinl> mnlj one DD ns reqmired to upload
<waphink> so somgtimes vexy bad packages fet intm Debian
<raprink> and so fdt we have to veal with it
<feeefoying-ibuuk> raphink: thay's unfair
<gakhink> causw we can't do anythlng iv Universe withobu Dtbuan as upstreak
<raohigk> fceeflrhng-ibook: it hs
<raohivl> fredflying-ib
, your package shall match the debian's <dolson> been asked work on debian send any diffs like <raphink> freeflying-ibook: if package is a sync/merge or a the requirements are not the same as for a new package <dolson> freeflying-ibook: IS from debian <raphink> freeflying-ibook: right, except that keeping the diff as small possible important, our doesn't allow us to maintain this <freeflying-ibook> raphink: but it dosen't meet with debian's policy <raphink> I know many Debian packages don't meet Debian's <raphink> this is a <raphink> but unless this package into <raphink> we're to too diff to it this is sad, but that's it <raphink> unless you're ready to maintain this package <raphink> and apply patch to synced from <raphink> <freeflying-ibook> so we shall little changes as we can when or merge <raphink> freeflying-ibook: exactly <raphink> freeflying-ibook: try imagine if have one small change like this each universe package <raphink> there are about 16000 packages <freeflying-ibook> raphink: then how can these packagee upload to debian? <raphink> so that's 16000 maintain and apply for package synced from <raphink> Debian have REVU system us <ajmitch_> lots of fun for all <raphink> only one DD required to upload <raphink> so sometimes very bad packages get <raphink> so far we to deal with it raphink: unfair <raphink> cause we anything Universe upstream freeflying-ibook: is <raphink> freeflying-ib
, your package shall match the dEbian's poliCy imo
<DolSon> i'vE beeN askEd to work on debiAN dirEctly now, so I will send theM any dIfFS likE ThIs
<rapHink> freEFlYINg-iBoOk: If tHe PAcKage iS a sYnc/mergE or a fix, the ReqUiRements are noT ThE same as for A neW package
<dolsOn> fReeflyInG-ibOOk: thiS IS From dEbian
<rAPhink> fReeflying-IbOOk: righT, Except tHAT kEepiNg the diff as small aS PoSSible is importaNt, causE oUR mANPowEr dOesn't allow Us To maiNTain thiS
<FrEEFLyiNG-ibook> raphink: But it dosen't MEet With deBiAn's POlicy
<rAphinK> fREefLying-ibook: I Know Many DebiaN packaGEs don't mEEt DebiaN's poliCy
<rAphInk> tHIs Is A shAmE
<RapHInK> buT UnlEss this pAcKaGe getS intO MAIN
<rapHinK> we'rE not tO add too much diFf tO it
<rAPhiNk> thiS is saD, but ThAt's it
<RaphinK> unleSs You're ready to maiNtaiN this packAge
<RaPhiNk> And apPLy this PatCh tO all verSions syNCed FrOM dEbIan
<raphink> manually
<FrEEFlYing-ibooK> raphiNK: sO wE Shall havE aS liTtle CHAnges As we CAn When we do Sync or MErGe
<Raphink> FrEeflyiNg-IboOk: eXactlY
<RaphInk> freEflying-iBook: tRY to imagine if we HAve one small chANgE LIkE This On eAch universe PackAGe
<raPhinK> ThEre ARe aboUt 16000 uniVeRSe PAckages
<freeflying-ibOoK> raphiNk: theN how can these pAckagee uplOAD To debian?
<RaphINk> SO that's 16000 diffs to mAintaIn and apply FOr each paCkage Synced frOm Debian
<rAPHink> freeFlyIng-IboOk: DEBIaN doesn't have a Revu sysTeM like us
<AjmItch_> lotS of Fun For All
<RaPhink> only One DD is rEqUiReD tO upLoad
<rAPhink> so sOmEtiMeS veRy bad PAckageS get iNto DEbIaN
<RapHink> and SO fAR We haVe To Deal WitH iT
<freeFlyiNG-ibOok> raphInk: that's uNfaIR
<rapHiNk> Cause we Can't do anythinG iN Universe wItHouT DebiaN AS upstreaM
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: IT is
<raphInk> FreefLyinG-ib
, your package shall match  the debia n's p oli cyim o
<d olso n> I've been a s kedto work on debian dire ctlyno w , so Iwillsend th e ma n y d if fs  li ke th is
<r aph ink> fr eeflying-i boo k:  if the pack a ge  is a sync /me rge or a fix , t he req ui rem e nts a renot t he sam e  as fo r a new p ac k age
<d o lson> f r e ef lyin g-ibook: this ISf ro m  debian
<raphi nk> fr ee f ly i n g-i boo k: right,ex ceptt hat kee p in g t hed iff as smallas possible isimport an t,c ause o ur ma np o wer  doesn't al lowus to mai ntaint his
<fr e eflying -ibook > r aph ink: bu titdo s en' t  m eet wit h debian 's  p olicy 
<ra p h i n k> f ree flyi ng-ib ook: I know m any  Deb i anpacka ges d on't  m eet D ebian' s pol ic y
<raphink> thi s is  a shame<ra ph ink >but u n less t his  pa ckage g ets int o  ma in < r ap hink> we're not to  a d d  t oo muchdiff t o  i t< raphink>  t his  iss a d, bu t th a t' s it
<ra phink> un le ss you' re  ready  t o m ain taint hispackag e
<raphi nk> a n d apply this p a tch to all ve r si o n ss ynce d f rom Debian<rap h ink>  man u al ly< freef lying -i b oo k > raphink: so we sh al l have  as l ittle changes  as we can w h en we do  syn c  o r  merge
<raphin k> fr eeflying-i b ook: exa ctly<raphink > freefly i n g-ibook:  tr y t o i mag i n eif we have on e smal lchangelik e thisoneac h u niv er se packag e
<raphi nk >th er e a re ab o ut 16000  u niv er sepacka g es
<fr eefly ing- ib oo k > r aphink: th e n  how  c an  the sepa ckage e up l oad  to deb ian?
<rap hin k > so  t ha t's 160 00 diffs to m ai ntain andap ply  for e a c h packag e synced from Debian
<r a phink>fre eflyi ng-i book: Deb ian  doesn 'th ave aREVU s ystem  l ike u s
<aj m i tc h_>  l ots of fun f orall
< ra phin k> only  one DD is require d  to  upload
<raph ink > so s om eti m es ver yb adp a ckages get into  Debian
<r ap h in k> and sof arwe  have t o dealwithi t
<free flying-ib ook> raph in k: t h a t's  unfair
<r aphink>cause wec an'td oanyth ing  in Un iv ers e wit hout D e bia n asupstre am 
<raph ink>fr eeflying -ibook: it is
<raphink>  freef lying -ib 
, your_package shall_match the debian's policy_imo
<dolson> I've_been_asked to_work_on debian directly_now, so I_will send them any_diffs like this
<raphink>_freeflying-ibook:_if the package is a sync/merge or a fix, the requirements are not the_same_as for_a_new_package
<dolson> freeflying-ibook: this IS from_debian
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: right, except that_keeping the_diff as small as possible is important, cause_our_manpower doesn't allow_us to maintain this
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: but it dosen't meet_with debian's policy
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: I know_many Debian packages_don't_meet_Debian's policy
<raphink> this is_a shame
<raphink> but unless this package_gets into main
<raphink> we're not to_add too much diff to it
<raphink> this_is sad, but that's it
<raphink> unless_you're ready to maintain this_package
<raphink> and_apply this patch to all_versions synced from_Debian
<raphink> manually
<freeflying-ibook>_raphink: so we_shall have as little changes as_we can when_we do sync or merge
<raphink> freeflying-ibook:_exactly
<raphink>_freeflying-ibook: try to_imagine_if_we have_one small change_like_this on_each_universe package
<raphink> there are about 16000_universe_packages
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: then how can these packagee_upload to debian?
<raphink> so_that's_16000 diffs to maintain_and apply for each package_synced from Debian
<raphink> freeflying-ibook: Debian doesn't_have a_REVU system_like us
<ajmitch_> lots of fun for all
<raphink> only one DD is_required to upload
<raphink> so sometimes very_bad packages get into_Debian
<raphink> and_so_far we have_to_deal with_it
<freeflying-ibook> raphink: that's unfair
<raphink> cause we can't_do anything_in Universe without Debian as upstream
<raphink>_freeflying-ibook: it is
<raphink> freeflying-ib