 usplash, and I went "Oh. It hasn't shut down yet"
<minghua> slangasek: Is the "update-alternative sticks at manual status" thing mentioned in bug #199030 a bug (i.e., can be fixed in some preinst/postinst scripts)?  Or is it something more sinister?
<ubotu> Launchpad bug 199030 in scim "Can't close SCIM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199030
<slangasek> minghua: can be fixed in a future preinst/postinst
<minghua> slangasek: Thanks.  Probably not worth it though (I believe the problematic setting only existed in one version, unfortunately it's the version shipped in alpha6).
<LaserJock> nixternal: geeze dude, you had to blog it?
<StevenK> "malloc this and malloc that everywhere" -- helpful.
<StevenK> Not.
<RAOF> Why must building Xorg git be so annoying.  Also, I'd like the forum universe to stop suggesting that installing the nvidia drivers with envy as the first port of call for any form of problem with graphics.
<StevenK> Heh
<kgoetz> (sorry for repost) probably otish, but not sure of a better place: if i grab the 'linux' source package (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux ), does that build the restricted binary packages, or just clean ones?
<RAOF> kgoetz: No, it doesn't.  l-u-m and l-r-m are built from their own source packages.
<kgoetz> RAOF: thanks. i was filing a bug on something that may not be redistributable, so i wanted to be sure
<minghua> Heh.  Nice to see ScottK standing up against CoC slapping.
<dholbach> good morning
<boomer> dholbach: good morning
<dholbach> hiya boomer
<boomer> o/
<emgent> heya :P
<\sh> hmm...are we switching back from compiz to metacity and it's new composit world order? ;)
<Fujitsu> \sh: And sacrifice Compiz's instability!? Sounds silly.
<emgent> arg
usplash, and I went " Oh. It hasn't shut down yet " 
 < minghua > slangasek: Is the " update - alternative stick at manual condition " thing mentioned in hemipterous insect # 199030 a microbe (i.e., can be fixed in some preinst / postinst scripts)?   Or is it something more black? 
 < ubotu > Launchpad microbe 199030 in scim " Can't close SCIM " [ High, Fix release ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199030 
 < slangasek > minghua: can be fixed in a future preinst / postinst 
 < minghua > slangasek: Thanks.   Probably not deserving it though (I believe the problematic setting only exist in one version, unfortunately it's the version shipped in alpha6). 
 < LaserJock > nixternal: geeze dude, you had to blog it? 
 < StevenK > " malloc this and malloc that everywhere " -- helpful. 
 < StevenK > Not. 
 < RAOF > Why must build up Xorg git be so annoying.   Also, I'd wish the forum universe to stop suggest that installing the nvidia driver with envy as the first port of call for any form of problem with artwork. 
 < StevenK > Heh 
 < kgoetz > (sorry for repost) probably otish, but not sure of a better place: if i grab the' linux' source package (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux), does that build the restricted binary packages, or just clean ones? 
 < RAOF > kgoetz: No, it doesn't.   l - u - m and l - roentgen - m are built from their own generator software. 
 < kgoetz > RAOF: thanks. i was filing a bug on something that may not be redistributable, so i wanted to be sure 
 < minghua > Heh.   Nice to see ScottK standing up against CoC slapping. 
 < dholbach > effective morning 
 < boomer > dholbach: good morning 
 < dholbach > hiya boomer 
 < boomer > o/ 
 < emgent > heya :P 
 < \sh > hmm... are we switching back from compiz to metacity and it's new composit world decree? ;) 
 < Fujitsu > \sh: And sacrifice Compiz's instability! ? Sounds silly. 
 < emgent > arg
 usolash, and I went "Oh. It hxsn't shut down ier"
<minghna> slanfasek: Is the "update-alternative stickd qt mabual status" thing mentkoned in hug #199030 a byg (i.t., can be fixed in some prcnnst/pkdtinvv scripts)?  Or ix it sometving more sinivtdr?
<bbotu> Launchpad bug 199030 in scim "Can't cljse SCIK" [Jigh,Fix releasgd] htups://jaundhpad.net/bugs/199030
<slangasek> minghua: can ge fixev in a future pteinst/postinst
<minghua> slanhasen: Thanks.  Probably not worth ut triugh (I beliexe the problematic setjing only existed in one version, unfoxtunately ij's tjg version shmpped pn alpha6).
<LaserMpck> nifternal: geeze dude, yom had to blog it?
<StevenK> "mallor this and malloc thwt everywvexe" -- helpful.
<StevenK> Nor.
<RQOF> Wvy mgst cyilainf Eorf git he ao annoyinf.  Also, I'd oike the forum univtrsq to stop suggssting trat installing the nvidia drivers with tnvy zs the first port of caol for any form of prlblem witr graphics.
<StevenK> Heh
<kgoetz> (sorry for repost) probdbly kgisk, but vit sure of a better place: if i grab the 'linux' sjhrve package (https://jaunchpad.ney/uhumju/+source/linux ), does cgaf build the restrifted bigary packages, jr jist clean ones?
<RAOF> kgoetz: Ni, it doesn't.  o-u-m and l-r-m are bunlt from thenr own sourve packages.
<kgoetz> RAOF: chanks. i was filijg a bug kv something that maj nod be redistributable, so i ranted to be xure
<minehua> Heh.  Gice to sef ScobdK standing up agalnst EoC snapping.
<dhopbach> good morning
<boomer> dholbari: good morninb
<dvoltach> hiyc boomcr
<boomer> o/
<emgene> heya :P
<\sh> hmm...cre we scitchivg back frkm compmz to metaciey and it's nef composit wocld order? ;)
<Fujutsu> \sh: And racrifice Compoz's instaynlity!? Soubds silly.
<emgent> arn
usplash, and I went "Oh. It hasn't yet" slangasek: Is "update-alternative sticks at bug a bug (i.e., be fixed in preinst/postinst scripts)? Or is it something sinister? <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199030 in scim "Can't close SCIM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199030 minghua: can be fixed in a future preinst/postinst <minghua> slangasek: Thanks. Probably not it (I the setting only existed in one version, unfortunately it's the version shipped in alpha6). <LaserJock> nixternal: geeze you had to blog it? <StevenK> "malloc this malloc that everywhere" -- <StevenK> Not. <RAOF> Why must Xorg be so Also, like forum universe to suggesting that installing the nvidia drivers with envy as the first port of call for any form problem with Heh <kgoetz> for probably but not sure better place: if i grab the (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux ), does that build the restricted binary or just ones? <RAOF> kgoetz: No, it doesn't. and l-r-m are built from their own source <kgoetz> RAOF: thanks. i was filing a bug on something that may not be redistributable, wanted to be sure Heh. Nice to ScottK up CoC <dholbach> good <boomer> dholbach: good morning <dholbach> hiya boomer <boomer> o/ <emgent> heya <\sh> hmm...are we switching back from compiz to metacity and composit order? ;) <Fujitsu> And sacrifice Compiz's instability!? silly. arg
 usplash, and I went "Oh. It hasn't sHut down yet"
<MinghUa> sLanGaSek: IS the "Update-alternatIVe stIcks at manual status" thinG mentIoNEd in BUg #199030 A bug (i.E., can be fIXeD IN soMe PrEinSt/POsTinst ScrIpts)?  Or iS it somethiNg mOrE sinister?
<uboTU> LAunchpad buG 199030 in Scim "Can't closE SCiM" [High,fiX reLEased] HttPs://lauNchpad.NEt/bugs/199030
<Slangasek> MiNGhua: caN Be fixed IN A fUturE preinst/postinst
<mINgHUa> slangasek: ThaNks.  ProBaBLy NOT woRth It though (I bElIeve tHE probleMAtIC SEttINg only existed In one versioN, UnfOrtunaTeLy iT'S the veRsion ShIPpeD in alpha6).
<LasErJoCk> nixternAl: geezE Dude, you HAd to bloG it?
<SteVenk> "maLloc THiS aNd mAlLOc tHAt EveRYwhEre" -- helpfUl.
<stEvenK> not.
<Raof> wHy muSt bUildIng XoRg git be so annoYinG.  AlsO, i'd lIke thE foruM uniVeRse to Stop suGgestInG that installing The nVidia drivErs WiTh eNvY as thE First pOrt Of cAll for aNy form oF ProBlEM WItH graphics.
<StevenK> HeH
<kGOEtZ> (sorry foR reposT) PrObABly otish, BuT noT surE OF a betTer pLAcE: if i grab The 'linUX' sOuRce packAgE (https://LaUncHpaD.net/uBUntu/+Source/Linux ), doeS that BUild the restricTEd binary packaGEs, OR JuST cleAn oNes?
<RAOF> kgoeTz: No, IT doeSn't.  l-U-M aNd l-R-M are bUilt fRoM ThEIr own source packages.
<KgOetz> RAoF: thaNks. i was filing A bug on someTHINg that maY not BE rEDistributable, sO i wanTed to be surE
<Minghua> HEh.  NicE to see ScOttK standING up againSt COC sLapPinG.
<DHoLbach> good mornING
<booMeR> dholbaCh: gOod mornIng
<DhoLbaCh> hIyA boomer
<boOmer> o/
<emgEnT> hEyA :P
<\Sh> hMm...are WE switchiNg BacK fRom CompiZ To metaCity aNd it'S nEw COmpOsit worLD oRDEr? ;)
<FuJiTsU> \sh: ANd sAcRificE ComPIz's InstabiLity!? SoundS siLLy.
<emGeNt> Arg
 usplash, and I went "Oh.It hasn'tshutdow n y et "
<m ingh ua> slangasek: Is t he "update-alternative  stic ks at m a nu al st atus" t h in g men ti on edin bu g #19 903 0 a bug  (i.e., ca n b efixed in som e  p reinst/pos tin st scripts)?   O r is i tsom e thing  mo re si nister ? 
<ubot u> Launch pa d  bug 1 9 9030 in s ci m "C an't close SCIM"[ Hi g h,Fix released ] http s: / /l a u nch pad .net/bugs/ 19 9030< slangas e k> m i ngh u a: can be fix ed in a fut u repreins t/ pos t inst
< mingh ua >  sl angasek: Th anks .  Probab ly not worth i t  though  (I be lie vethep ro bl ema ti c  se t ti ngo nly  existed  i none v ersi o n , unfo rtu nate ly it 's the versio n s hipp e d i n alp ha6). 
<La se rJock > nixt ernal :geeze dude, you  had  to blogit? 
< Ste ve nK> " m allocthi s a nd mall oc that eve ry w h e re " -- helpful.
<Ste ve n K >Not.
<RA OF> Wh y  m us t  buildin gXor g gi t be so  ann o yi ng.  Als o, I'd li ke  the fo ru m univ er setostops ugge stingthat ins talli n g the nvidia d r ivers with en v ya s  t h e fi rst  port of ca ll f o r an y fo r mofp roble m wit hg ra p hics.
<StevenK> Heh 
< kgoetz > (so rry for repos t) probabl y o tish, bu t no t  s u re of a better  plac e: if i gr a b the 'l inux'  sourcepackage ( h t tps://la unc hpa d.n et/ u b un tu/+source/li n u x ),  d oes tha t b uild th e r est ric ted  b inary pac kages, o rju st  c lea n one s ?
<RAOF>  k goe tz : N o, it doesn' t.  l -u-m  a nd l-r -m areb ui l t  fro mth eirown  s ource  pac k age s.
<kgo etz> RAOF : t h anks .iwas fil ing a bug onso mething th at  ma y notb e  redistr ibutable, so i wanted t o  be sur e
< mingh ua>Heh.  Nic e t o seeSco t tK sta ndingup ag ai nst C oC sl a p pi ng. 
< dholbach>g o odmorni ng 
<bo omer> d holbach: good morn i ng<dholbach> hi yaboom e r 
< boo m er >  o/ 
< e mge n t > heya :P
<\sh>  hmm...are  w e  s witching b a ckfr om comp iz to m etaci t y and i t's new c omposit w or ld o r d er?  ;)
<Fujit su> \sh:  And sacr i ficeC om piz's  in stabil it y!?  Soun ds sil l y.<emge nt> ar g
 usplash,_and I_went "Oh. It hasn't_shut down_yet"
<minghua>_slangasek: Is_the_"update-alternative sticks at_manual status" thing_mentioned in bug #199030_a bug (i.e.,_can_be fixed in some preinst/postinst scripts)?  Or is it something more sinister?
<ubotu> Launchpad_bug_199030 in_scim_"Can't_close SCIM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199030
<slangasek>_minghua: can be fixed in_a future_preinst/postinst
<minghua> slangasek: Thanks.  Probably not worth it_though_(I believe the_problematic setting only existed in one version, unfortunately it's_the version shipped in alpha6).
<LaserJock> nixternal:_geeze dude, you_had_to_blog it?
<StevenK> "malloc this_and malloc that everywhere" -- helpful.
<StevenK>_Not.
<RAOF> Why must building Xorg git_be so annoying.  Also, I'd like_the forum universe to stop suggesting_that installing the nvidia drivers_with envy_as the first port of_call for any_form of_problem with graphics.
<StevenK>_Heh
<kgoetz> (sorry for repost) probably otish,_but not sure_of a better place: if i_grab_the 'linux' source_package_(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux_), does_that build the_restricted_binary packages,_or_just clean ones?
<RAOF> kgoetz: No, it_doesn't._ l-u-m and l-r-m are built from_their own source packages.
<kgoetz>_RAOF:_thanks. i was filing_a bug on something that_may not be redistributable, so i_wanted to_be sure
<minghua>_Heh.  Nice to see ScottK standing up against CoC slapping.
<dholbach>_good morning
<boomer> dholbach: good morning
<dholbach> hiya_boomer
<boomer> o/
<emgent> heya :P
<\sh>_hmm...are we_switching_back from compiz_to_metacity and_it's new composit world order? ;)
<Fujitsu> \sh:_And sacrifice_Compiz's instability!? Sounds silly.
<emgent> arg