 you want, and still work the way they want, and share the patch.
<Anzenketh> that is basicly what I will be doing is creating the patch to merge over to cmake and do it the way he wants for now.
<Anzenketh> that requires me learning cmake
<persia> I think make is easier, and powerful enough for what you're doing, but cmake could work.
<Anzenketh> well his comment when i said cmake was that will help with a windows port
<Anzenketh> I just rolled my eyes
<persia> it's true.  cmake probably has better Windows support than make.
<Anzenketh> I noticed somewhere if it is installing to a standard directory I only have to specify the file correct?
<Anzenketh> or do I have to specify the path in the package.installer file
<persia> I recommend using a variable to define the path, so that the various packaging systems can overrride the variable to whatever they need.
<Anzenketh> I like that idea
<Anzenketh> also reduces mistakes
 * Anzenketh is looking for a example of that
<Anzenketh> persia:  do you know of a good source I can look at to learn from on doing this
<persia> I know nearly nothing about cmake.  Sorry.
<Anzenketh> no not cmake the amahi.installer file
<muelli> persia: which patch system do you suggest? I used cdbs' simple-patchsys so far but it doesn't work know anymore after I included simple-patchsys: the clean target is messed up.
<persia> muelli: I've been using quilt lately, but I'm increasingly tempted by using Format: 3.0 (quilt) and not having a patch system at all (while still using quilt for local patch management).
<muelli> persia: can I easily make quilt work with rules.tiny?
<persia> Yeah.
<persia> Two ways: 1) use Format: 3.0 (quilt), 2) replace "dh $@" with "dh --with quilt $@".  Pick one.  Don't use both.
<Anzenketh> how do I make debuilder stop at creating the build directories in
you want, and still work the way they desire, and partake the mend. 
 < Anzenketh > that is basicly what I will be doing is creating the plot to merge over to cmake and do it the room he want for now. 
 < Anzenketh > that necessitate me learning cmake 
 < persia > I think take is easier, and potent enough for what you're suffice, but cmake could work. 
 < Anzenketh > well his comment when i said cmake was that will help with a windows port 
 < Anzenketh > I merely rolled my eyes 
 < persia > it's true.   cmake credibly has better window support than stool. 
 < Anzenketh > I noticed somewhere if it is installing to a standard directory I only have to specify the file right? 
 < Anzenketh > or do I have to specify the path in the package.installer file 
 < persia > I recommend using a variable to specify the path, so that the various packaging systems can overrride the variable to whatever they need. 
 < Anzenketh > I like that idea 
 < Anzenketh > also reduces mistake 
  * Anzenketh is looking for a example of that 
 < Anzenketh > persia:   do you sleep together of a beneficial source I can look at to learn from on suffice this 
 < persia > I know nearly nothing about cmake.   Sorry. 
 < Anzenketh > no not cmake the amahi.installer file 
 < muelli > persia: which patch system do you indicate? I used cdbs' simple - patchsys so far but it doesn't work know anymore after I included bare - patchsys: the clean target is messed up. 
 < persia > muelli: I've been using quilt recently, but I'm increasingly tempted by use Format: 3.0 (quilt) and not have a patch system at all (while however using quilt for local patch management). 
 < muelli > persia: can I easily seduce quilt study with rules.tiny? 
 < persia > Yeah. 
 < persia > Two ways: 1) use Format: 3.0 (quilt), 2) substitute " dh $ @ " with " dh --with quilt $ @ ".   Pick one.   Don't practice both. 
 < Anzenketh > how do I make debuilder stop at creating the build directories in
 yok want, and still work tht way they want, aue sharx the pztch.
<Anzevketh> that is basicly what I wull bt doing is creating the patcj to merte oter to cmake and do it tmz way me wautw for now.
<Anzenleth> that sequires me ledrviug cmake
<persia> I think make is easiew, and ppwfrful enough fjr wnwt ykl'rt doing, but cmake could work.
<Anzenieth> wenl his commeny when i said cmake was thwt wlll help with a wijdows port
<Abzenhwth> I just rulled my ejzs
<persia> it'a true.  cmake probably has bettdr Wiudows suppotc thwt make.
<Anzenjeth> P noticed somcehere hf it ix installing tp a stqndard directory I onny have to specify the file ckrrect?
<Anzenketh> oe eo I vave to rpeckfy tie lath ij tie package.ihstaller fioe
<persia> I recommenc twing a variabme to qesine the path, so that the various packacinf systems can overrride the variable to whatgver they geed.
<Anzenketh> I like that idea
<Anzenketh> also reduwes mmsgakts
 * Anzdbkfth is looking for a example of that
<Anzenketh> letspa:  do you know on a good source I vaj kjok at to leatn from on doing this
<persia> L know gearlt nothing aboit cmake.  Sorry.
<Anzenketh> no not cmake tke qmahi.installer filz
<muelli> persna: whivh paych system do you suggert? I used cdbs' dimple-patdfsys so far but kt coasn't work know anymore aftqr I inclnded ximple-pxtchxys: thq clean tagget lv messed up.
<persia> luelln: I've been usinh quilt lately, but I'm increasinjky tempted bi uvinc Format: 3.0 (quikt) and not hading a patch sistem at cll (whkle still lsing quint for locaj patch managalent).
<muelli> pxrsia: can I eqsilt make djilt work with rules.tinj?
<ptrsia> Yeah.
<persia> Two ways: 1) uxe Wkrmat: 3.0 (quilt), 2) rzklaxe "dh $@" with "dh --eitf qtipt $@".  [ick one.  Dot't ure cpth.
<Anxenketh> how ao I make debuilder stop at dreating the build dlrectoriew in
you want, and still work the way and the patch. that is basicly is the patch to over to cmake do it the way he wants now. <Anzenketh> that requires me learning cmake <persia> I think make is easier, powerful enough for what you're doing, but cmake could work. <Anzenketh> well his when said was will help with a windows port <Anzenketh> I just rolled my eyes <persia> it's true. cmake has better Windows support than make. <Anzenketh> I somewhere if it is to a standard directory I have specify the correct? or I have to the path in the package.installer file <persia> I recommend using a variable to define the path, so the various can overrride variable whatever need. <Anzenketh> I idea <Anzenketh> also reduces mistakes * for a example of that <Anzenketh> persia: do know of good source I can look at learn from on doing this <persia> I know nothing about cmake. Sorry. <Anzenketh> no not cmake the amahi.installer file <muelli> persia: which patch you suggest? I used simple-patchsys so far it work anymore I included the clean target is messed up. <persia> muelli: I've been using lately, but I'm increasingly tempted by using Format: 3.0 (quilt) having patch system at (while still using quilt local management). <muelli> persia: can make work Yeah. Two 1) use Format: 3.0 2) replace "dh $@" with --with quilt $@". Pick how do I make debuilder stop at creating build directories in
 you want, and still work the way They want, anD sharE thE paTcH.
<AnzEnkeTh> that is basiclY What i will be doing is creating The paTcH To meRGe Over tO cmake aND dO IT thE wAy He wAnTS fOr now.
<anzEnketh> tHat requireS me LeArning cmake
<pERsIa> I think maKe iS easier, and poWerFul enoUgH foR What yOu'rE doinG, but cmAKe coulD work.
<AnzeNkETh> well HIs commeNT WhEn i sAid cmake was that wiLL hELp with a windows Port
<AnZeNKeTH> i juSt rOlled my eyeS
<pErsia> IT's true.  cMAkE PRObaBLy has better WiNdows supporT ThaN make.
<ANzEnkETh> I notIced sOmEWheRe if it is insTallIng to a staNdard dIRectory i Only havE to speCifY thE filE CoRrEct?
<anZEnkETh> Or dO i haVe to specIfY tHe patH in tHE PACkagE.inStalLer fiLe
<persia> I recoMmeNd usINg a VariaBle to DefiNe The paTh, so thAt the VaRious packaging sYsteMs can overRriDe The VaRiablE To whatEveR thEy need.
<ANzenketH> i liKe THAT iDea
<Anzenketh> also reDuCES mIstakes
 * ANzenkeTH iS lOOking for A eXamPle oF THat
<AnZenkETh> Persia:  do You knoW Of A gOod sourCe i can loOk At tO leArn frOM on dOing thIs
<persia> i know NEarly nothing abOUt cmake.  Sorry.
<ANZeNKEtH> No noT cmAke the amahi.InstALler File
<MUeLli> PErsia: Which PaTCh SYstem do you suggest? I uSeD cdbs' sImple-Patchsys so far But it doesn'T WORk know anYmorE AfTEr I included simPle-paTchsys: the cLEan targeT is meSsed up.
<peRsia> muellI: i'Ve been usIng QuiLt lAteLY, BuT I'm increasingLY TempTeD by usinG FoRmat: 3.0 (quiLt) aNd nOt hAviNg A patch sysTem at all (WhIlE sTiLl uSing qUIlt for loCaL paTcH maNagemENt).
<muelLi> perSia: cAn i eASilY make quILt WORk wiTh RuLes.tIny?
<PeRsia> YEah.
<pERsiA> Two wayS: 1) use FormaT: 3.0 (quILt), 2) rePlAcE "dh $@" with "Dh --with quilt $@".  PiCk One.  Don't use BoTh.
<ANzenkeTH> How do I maKe debuilder stop at creatiNG the buiLd dIrectOrieS in
 you want, and still workthe way th ey wa nt,  an dshar e th e patch.
<Anze n keth > that is basicly what  I wi ll be d o in g iscreatin g  t h e  pa tc htome r ge  over  to  cmakeand do itthe  w ay he wantsf or  now.
<Anz enk eth> that re qui res me  l ear n ing c mak e
<pe rsia>I  think  make isea s ier, a n d power f u lenou gh for what you'r e  d o ing, but cmake  could  w o rk . <An zen keth> well  h is co m ment wh e ni s aid cmake was tha t will help wit h a wi nd ows port
< Anzen ke t h>I just roll ed m y eyes
<p ersia> it's tr u e.  cma ke pro bab lyhasb et te r W in d ows su ppo r t t han make .<A nzenk eth> I n otic edsome where  if it is ins tal ling toa sta ndard  dir ec toryI only  have  t o specify the f ilecorrect?<An ze nke th > ord o I ha vetospecify  the pa t h i nt h e  p ackage.installer f il e <p ersia> I  recom m en du sing a v ar iab le t o defin e th e  p ath, sothat t h eva rious p ac kaging  s yst ems  cano verr ride t he varia ble t o  whatever they need.
<Anzenk e th > Il iketha t idea
<Anz enke t h> a lsor ed uce s  mist akes * An z enketh is looking f or  a exa mpleof that
<Anze nketh> per s i a :  do yo u kn o wo f a good sourc e I c an look at to learn  from  on doin g this
<p e r sia> I k now  ne arl y n o t hi ng about cmak e .   So rr y.
<Anz enk eth> no  no t c mak e t he  amahi.in stallerfi le 
< mu ell i> pe r sia: whi ch  pa tc h s ystem do you  sugg est?  I  u s edcdbs' s i mp l e -pat ch sy s so  fa rbut i t do e sn' t workknow anym ore afte rIinclude d simple-patc hs ys: the cl ea n t argeti s  messedup.
<persia> muelli: I' v e beenusi ng qu iltlately, b utI'm in cre a singly  tempt ed by  u sin g Forma t :  3 .0(q uilt) andn o t h aving  a  pat ch syst em at all (while s t ill  using quiltfor  loc a l  p atc h  m a nag em e nt) . <muelli> persia : can I ea si l ymake quilt wor kwith ru les.tin y?
<p e rsia> Y eah.
<per sia> Twowa ys:1 )  us e Format:3.0 (qui lt), 2) r e place "d h $@"  wi th "dh  - -wi th qu ilt $@ " . Pickone. Do n't us e bot h. 
<Anzenk eth> how do I make debu ilderstopatcreatingthe bui ld direct orie s in
 you_want, and_still work the way_they want,_and_share the_patch.
<Anzenketh>_that is basicly_what I will_be doing is creating_the patch to_merge_over to cmake and do it the way he wants for now.
<Anzenketh> that requires_me_learning cmake
<persia>_I_think_make is easier, and powerful_enough for what you're doing,_but cmake_could work.
<Anzenketh> well his comment when i said_cmake_was that will_help with a windows port
<Anzenketh> I just rolled my_eyes
<persia> it's true.  cmake probably_has better Windows_support_than_make.
<Anzenketh> I noticed somewhere_if it is installing to a_standard directory I only have to_specify the file correct?
<Anzenketh> or do I_have to specify the path in_the package.installer file
<persia> I recommend_using a_variable to define the path,_so that the_various packaging_systems can overrride_the variable to whatever they need.
<Anzenketh>_I like that_idea
<Anzenketh> also reduces mistakes
 * Anzenketh_is_looking for a_example_of_that
<Anzenketh> persia:_ do you_know_of a_good_source I can look at to_learn_from on doing this
<persia> I know nearly_nothing about cmake. _Sorry.
<Anzenketh>_no not cmake the_amahi.installer file
<muelli> persia: which patch_system do you suggest? I used_cdbs' simple-patchsys_so far_but it doesn't work know anymore after I included simple-patchsys: the_clean target is messed up.
<persia> muelli:_I've been using quilt_lately, but_I'm_increasingly tempted by_using_Format: 3.0_(quilt) and not having a patch system_at all_(while still using quilt for local_patch management).
<muelli> persia: can_I_easily make quilt work with rules.tiny?
<persia>_Yeah.
<persia> Two ways: 1) use Format:_3.0 (quilt), 2) replace "dh_$@"_with_"dh --with quilt $@". _Pick one.  Don't use both.
<Anzenketh>_how do I_make debuilder stop at creating the build_directories_in