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<RAOF> tonyyarusso: But if the point is that you don't want people forking it until it can talk to itself, how does that review help?
<RAOF> Not that I wouldn't *prefer* having LP open sourced, and it could probably fulfil the same role, but it's not like there aren't reasonable reasons for it :)
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: The forks could talk too...
<tonyyarusso> people don't just fork randomly either, and when they do, users will follow the better one usually.
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso: the forks could talk, right up until either side updates
<tonyyarusso> pwnguin: at which point you'd know the code necessary to talk to the update
<tonyyarusso> Here's what it comes down to:  Can LP talk to my self-hosted web page with my code?
<RAOF> tonyyarusso: No, probably not.  But why are you self-hosting?
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: because I don't want to be on LP / sourceforge / etc.
<tonyyarusso> Because I'm not comfortable trusted my open code to a closed service.
<tonyyarusso> Therefore, for me personally, LP fails at "bringing everything together", but I don't want to accept its conditions of participation.
<RAOF> Right.  So when it's open this will go away, and you won't be self-hosting?
<tonyyarusso> Correct.
<tonyyarusso> Well, provided they also fix a few "pet bugs" in functionality, but that's quite likely :)
<farruinn> I'm trying to get pbuilder to use a local repo on /var/caches/archive but when I run pbuilder update --bindmount /var/cache/archive --override-config --othermirror "deb file:///var/cache/archive/ gutsy/" it says "Ign file: gutsy" for Release.pgp, Release, and Packages.
<YokoZar> ScottK: Hey, I put up a new Wine package on review and \sh has been gone for a few days.  Care to take a look?
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 < RAOF > tonyyarusso: But if the point is that you don't want citizenry branch it until it can talk to itself, how does that review help? 
 < RAOF > Not that I wouldn't * prefer * have LP open sourced, and it could credibly fulfil the same role, but it's not like there embodyn't reasonable reasons for it :) 
 < tonyyarusso > RAOF: The fork could talk too... 
 < tonyyarusso > multitude don't barely fork randomly either, and when they do, users will follow the better one normally. 
 < pwnguin > tonyyarusso: the forks could talk, right up until either english updates 
 < tonyyarusso > pwnguin: at which point you'd acknowledge the code necessary to talk to the update 
 < tonyyarusso > Here's what it occur down to:   Can LP talk to my self - hosted web page with my code? 
 < RAOF > tonyyarusso: No, probably not.   But why are you self - hosting? 
 < tonyyarusso > RAOF: because I don't want to be on LP / sourceforge / etc. 
 < tonyyarusso > Because I'm not comfortable trust my open code to a closed service. 
 < tonyyarusso > Therefore, for me personally, LP fails at " institute everything together ", but I don't want to accept its conditions of participation. 
 < RAOF > Right.   So when it's open this will go away, and you won't be self - hosting? 
 < tonyyarusso > Correct. 
 < tonyyarusso > Well, provided they besides repair a few " pet bug " in functionality, but that's quite probable :) 
 < farruinn > I'm trying to get pbuilder to use a local repo on /var / caches / archive but when I run pbuilder update --bindmount /var / cache / archive --override - config --othermirror " deb file:///var / cache / archive/ gutsy/ " it says " Ign file: gutsy " for Release.pgp, Release, and Packages. 
 < YokoZar > ScottK: Hey, I put up a new Wine package on inspection and \sh has been gone for a few days.   Care to take a spirit? 
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<RAOF> tonyyceusso: Uut if fhe poing is that you don't want peoppe forkung it until it can tauk to itsvlf, how dies uhat review help?
<REKF> Not bkat I aoulbn'v *prefer* having LP open smurced, and it wojlb probably fulfil the same role, but yt's not llke there aren'j reaxjnabmv veasons for it :)
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: Fhe forns could talk too...
<tonyyarusso> people don'h judt fork randomly elther, and wyen eyey do, users will follow the bettet one usually.
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso: the yorks could tqlk, tight up untml eitrer side updates
<tonyfarusso> pwnguin: at whlch pminr you'd know the code iecessary to talk to the updade
<conyyarusso> Here's whar ut cokes gown ro:  Cah KP talk ho jy self-hosfed web pagw with my code?
<RAOF> uonrjsrusso: No, prkbably njt.  But why are you self-hosting?
<tonyyaruvso> RAOF: because I don't wabt to be on LP / sourcgforge / ets.
<tonyyarusso> Because I'm not comfortable trusted mf opei zodt bj q flosed service.
<tonyyarusso> Therefore, for me pewaomakly, LP fails ab "bringing everythonh yjgether", but I don't cznf to accept its cojditionf of participauion.
<RSOF> Right.  So when it's open this will gj away, and you won't be self-hoscing?
<tomyyarisso> Correct.
<tonyyarusso> Welm, provided hhey also wix a few "pet bues" pn fgnctionality, but that's quiee likely :)
<farxuinn> I'm tryong to get pbuilfer to use a local repo ln /vat/cachev/archive bkt when I run pbuilder update --bmidmount /var/cavha/arbhive --ovexride-cpnfig --othermiwror "deb file:///vcr/cache/axchive/ gutsy/" it aays "Igi file: gutsy" for Release.pck, Release, and Packagef.
<YokiZar> ScottK: Fey, I put up a new Wine package ob review and \sh hax bgeh gone for a fec eays.  Care to tske a jolk?
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's length until something changes. <RAOF> tonyyarusso: the is that don't want people talk itself, how does review help? <RAOF> that I wouldn't *prefer* having LP sourced, and it could probably fulfil the same role, but it's not like aren't reasonable reasons for it :) <tonyyarusso> RAOF: The forks could talk too... people just randomly and when they do, users will follow the better one usually. <pwnguin> tonyyarusso: the forks could right up until either side updates <tonyyarusso> pwnguin: which point you'd know code necessary to talk to update Here's what comes to: LP talk to self-hosted web page with my code? <RAOF> tonyyarusso: No, probably not. But why are you self-hosting? <tonyyarusso> because I to be LP sourceforge etc. <tonyyarusso> Because comfortable trusted my open code to <tonyyarusso> Therefore, for me personally, LP fails at everything together", I don't want to accept its of participation. <RAOF> Right. So when it's open will go away, and you won't be self-hosting? <tonyyarusso> Correct. <tonyyarusso> Well, provided they also few "pet bugs" in but that's quite :) I'm to pbuilder to a local repo on /var/caches/archive but when I run pbuilder update /var/cache/archive --override-config --othermirror "deb file:///var/cache/archive/ gutsy/" it says "Ign file: Release.pgp, and Packages. <YokoZar> Hey, I put up new package on review and been for Care take look? <RAOF> Y
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<RAOF> tonYyaruSso: but If The pOint Is that you don't wANt peOple forking it until it caN talk To ITselF, HoW does That revIEw HELp?
<RaOf> NOt tHaT i wOuldn'T *prEfer* havIng LP open sOurCeD, and it could pRObAbly fulfil The Same role, but iT's nOt like ThEre ARen't rEasOnablE reasoNS for it :)
<TonyyarusSo> raOF: The FOrks couLD TaLk toO...
<tonyyarusso> peoplE DoN'T just fork randoMly eitHeR, AnD WHen TheY do, users wiLl FolloW The bettER oNE USuaLLy.
<pwnguin> tonyYarusso: the fORks Could tAlK, riGHt up unTil eiThER siDe updates
<toNyyaRusso> pwngUin: at wHIch poinT You'd knoW the coDe nEceSsarY To TaLk tO tHE upDAtE
<toNYyaRusso> HerE's WhAt it cOmes DOWN To:  CaN LP Talk To my sElf-hosted web pAge With MY coDe?
<RAOf> tonyYaruSsO: No, prObably Not.  BuT wHy are you self-hosTing?
<TonyyarusSo> RaOf: beCaUse I dON't want To bE on lP / sourcEforge / eTC.
<toNyYARUsSo> Because I'm not comfOrTABlE trusted My open COdE tO A closed sErVicE.
<tonYYArussO> TheREfOre, for me PersonALlY, Lp fails aT "bRinginG eVerYthIng toGEtheR", but I dOn't want tO accePT its conditions OF participatioN.
<rAof> riGHt.  So WheN it's open thiS wilL Go awAy, anD YoU woN'T be seLf-hosTiNG?
<tONyyarusso> Correct.
<tonYyArusso> well, pRovided they alSo fix a few "pET BUgs" in funCtioNAlITy, but that's quitE likeLy :)
<farruinn> i'M trying tO get pBuilder tO use a locaL REpo on /var/CacHes/ArcHivE BUt When I run pbuilDER updAtE --bindmoUnt /Var/cachE/arChiVe --oVerRiDe-config --oThermirrOr "DeB fIlE:///vaR/cachE/Archive/ gUtSy/" iT sAys "ign fiLE: gutsy" For ReLeasE.pGp, rEleAse, and PACkAGEs.
<YoKozaR> ScoTtK: heY, I put Up a nEW WiNe packaGe on revieW anD \Sh haS bEeN gone foR a few days.  Care To Take a look?
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< RAOF>  to nyy ar usso : Bu t if the point is t hat you don't want peo ple f or k ingi tuntil  it can ta l k  to  i ts elf ,h ow  does  th at revi ew help?
< RAO F>  Not that Iw ou ldn't *pre fer * having LPope n sour ce d,a nd it  co uld p robabl y  fulfi l the sam er ole, b u t it'sn o tlike  there aren't rea s on a ble reasons fo r it : )< to n y yar uss o> RAOF: T he  fork s  couldt al k t oo. . .
<tonyyaruss o> people d o n't  justfo rkr andoml y eit he r , a nd when the y do , users w ill fo l low the betterone us ual ly. 
<pw n gu in > t on y yar u ss o:t heforks co ul dtalk,  rig h t u p un til  eit her s ide updates
< ton yyar u sso > pwn guin:  atwh ich p oint y ou'dkn ow the code nec essa ry to tal k t othe  u pdate <tonyy aru sso > Here' s whati t c om e s do wn to:  Can LP tal kt o  m y self-h ostedw eb  p a ge withmy  co de?< R AOF>tony y ar usso: No , prob a bl ynot.  B ut  why a re  yo u s elf-h o stin g?
<to nyyaruss o> RA O F: because I d o n't want to b e  o n LP / so urc eforge / et c.
< t onyy arus s o>  Be c auseI'm n ot co m fortable trusted my  o pen co de to  a closed ser vice.
<ton y y a russo> T here f or e , for me perso nally , LP fails at "brin gingeverythi ng togeth e r ", but I  do n't  wa ntt o  a ccept its con d i tion sof part ici pation. 
<R AOF > R igh t.   So when  it's op en  t hi swil l goa way, and  y ouwo n't  be s e lf-hos ting? 
<to ny ya r uss o> Corr e ct . <ton yy ar usso > W el l, pr ovid e d t hey als o fix a f ew" petbu gs " in fu nctionality,bu t that's q ui telikely : )
<farru inn> I'm trying to getp builder  to  usea lo cal repoon/var/c ach e s/arch ive bu t whe nI r u n  pbui l d er  up da te --bindm o u nt/var/ ca che/ archive  --override-config --o thermirror "d ebfile : / // var / ca c he/ ar c hiv e /  gutsy/" it say s "Ign fil e: gu tsy" for R e lea se .pgp, R elease,  andP ackages .
<YokoZa r> ScottK :Hey, I  pu t up a new  Wine pa ckage onr eview an d \sh  ha s been  g one  fora fewd ays .  Ca re tota ke a l ook?<R AOF> Y
's length_until something_changes.
<RAOF> tonyyarusso: But if_the point_is_that you_don't_want people forking_it until it_can talk to itself,_how does that_review_help?
<RAOF> Not that I wouldn't *prefer* having LP open sourced, and it could probably_fulfil_the same_role,_but_it's not like there aren't_reasonable reasons for it :)
<tonyyarusso>_RAOF: The_forks could talk too...
<tonyyarusso> people don't just fork_randomly_either, and when_they do, users will follow the better one usually.
<pwnguin>_tonyyarusso: the forks could talk, right_up until either_side_updates
<tonyyarusso>_pwnguin: at which point_you'd know the code necessary to_talk to the update
<tonyyarusso> Here's what_it comes down to:  Can LP_talk to my self-hosted web page_with my code?
<RAOF> tonyyarusso: No,_probably not._ But why are you_self-hosting?
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: because_I don't_want to be_on LP / sourceforge / etc.
<tonyyarusso>_Because I'm not_comfortable trusted my open code to_a_closed service.
<tonyyarusso> Therefore,_for_me_personally, LP_fails at "bringing_everything_together", but_I_don't want to accept its conditions_of_participation.
<RAOF> Right.  So when it's open_this will go away,_and_you won't be self-hosting?
<tonyyarusso>_Correct.
<tonyyarusso> Well, provided they also_fix a few "pet bugs" in_functionality, but_that's quite_likely :)
<farruinn> I'm trying to get pbuilder to use a local_repo on /var/caches/archive but when I_run pbuilder update --bindmount_/var/cache/archive --override-config_--othermirror_"deb file:///var/cache/archive/ gutsy/"_it_says "Ign_file: gutsy" for Release.pgp, Release, and Packages.
<YokoZar>_ScottK: Hey,_I put up a new Wine_package on review and_\sh_has been gone for a few_days.  Care to take a_look?
<RAOF> Y