 a window on an off-screen buffer
<jdong> then have X be able to put it on the screen, etc.
<shawarma> jdong: => bling? Cool.
<jdong> yeah, I think that's probably the first step towards bling
<jdong> Beryl I know can operate solely from the composite extension
<jdong> (though very inefficiently
<shawarma> Ok.
<shawarma> jdong: Do you use beryl or compiz?
<Slant_Laptop> I have a package patch for slab / gnome-main-menu. Is it worth it to get REVU access, or can I just post the debdiff to the relevant bugs and someone else will get to it?
<jdong> I have both around, but personally I prefer Beryl for myself
<jdong> I like what they've added, and the extreme amount of customizability too
<shawarma> Slant_Laptop: Are there bugs on launchpad for it?
<jdong> but Compiz would be more appropriate for a more professional-use oriented system.
<shawarma> Slant_Laptop: If so, just attach the debdiffs there and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<jdong> it captures a lot of the usability features of compositing without obnoxious effects :)
<Slant_Laptop> shawarma: Thanks.
<shawarma> jdong: I used to like it, too. At some point, though, they thought they were smart, and made the settings-manager thing check if a certain key combo did more than one thing. Since then, I've ditched it. I need <Alt>Button1 to do two things.
<shawarma> jdong: I need it to initiate window move AND raise the window.
<jdong> shawarma: ah, interesting. I haven't ran into problems like that yet... there's just some Beryl features I really come to love and depend on.
<shawarma> jdong: I think the window preview thing is really cool.
<jdong> shawarma: ring task switcher, transparent cube, 3D elevated windows, window preview, invert color scheme.....
<shawarma> jdong: Of course I've been too frickin' lazy to file a bug.
<shawarma> jdong
a window on an off - screen buffer 
 < jdong > then have ten be able to place it on the screen, etc. 
 < shawarma > jdong: = > bling? Cool. 
 < jdong > yeah, I think that's probably the beginning step towards bling 
 < jdong > Beryl I know can operate on entirely from the composite extension 
 < jdong > (though very inefficiently 
 < shawarma > Ok. 
 < shawarma > jdong: Do you use beryl or compiz? 
 < Slant_Laptop > I have a package patch for slab / gnome - independent - menu. Is it worth it to get REVU entree, or can I just post the debdiff to the relevant bugs and someone else will get to it? 
 < jdong > I have both around, but personally I prefer Beryl for myself 
 < jdong > I wish what they've added, and the extreme amount of customizability too 
 < shawarma > Slant_Laptop: Are there bug on launchpad for it? 
 < jdong > but Compiz would be more appropriate for a more professional - use tailor system. 
 < shawarma > Slant_Laptop: If thus, just attach the debdiffs there and subscribe ubuntu - universe - sponsors 
 < jdong > it capture a lot of the usability features of compositing without obnoxious effects :) 
 < Slant_Laptop > shawarma: Thanks. 
 < shawarma > jdong: I use to wish it, too. At some point, though, they thought they were smart, and made the settings - manager matter check if a sealed key combo do more than one matter. Since then, I've dump it. I need < Alt > Button1 to do two things. 
 < shawarma > jdong: I need it to initiate window motion AND raise the window. 
 < jdong > shawarma: ah, interesting. I haven't ran into problems like that yet... there's just some Beryl feature I really come to love and depend on. 
 < shawarma > jdong: I remember the window preview matter is in truth cool. 
 < jdong > shawarma: ring task switcher, transparent cube, 3D lift windows, window preview, invert color schema..... 
 < shawarma > jdong: Of course I've been too frickin' lazy to file a microbe. 
 < shawarma > jdong
 a aindow on an off-screen bmffer
<jdong> then kqve X ue able to put kt on the screen, etc.
<shawarma> jeong: => bling? Cool.
<jdong> yeah, K think tjat's provablb the first step towards bling
<nfong> Ueryl I know cak operate smlely from the cum'osite extension
<jdong> (though very inqfficiemtpy
<shawarma> Ok.
<srawagmw> jdkng: Do you use beryl or compiz?
<Slanf_Laptop> I have a paclage patch for slab / gnome-lain-lenu. Is it worth ih to get RECU asxess, or can K just posu che debdiff to the relevant bugs and someove elxe will gej fo ht?
<jdong> I heve bonh around, but personanly I ptefer Beryl fov mysxlf
<jeong> I like what they'te added, and the extteme amound kf customizabilitt roo
<shdwarka> Suqnt_Uapuop: Ade thege uugs on lauhchpad for ut?
<jdong> but Compiz eotod be more aplropriwtq for a more professional-use oriented sjstej.
<shawarma> Slant_Laptop: Id so, just attach the febdiffs ehere and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<jdong> id capvufes a uit of the usability features of compositing witrkuu onnoxious effects :)
<Slant_Laptol> dhsrarma: Thanks.
<sfawarmc> jsong: I used to likf it, toj. At wome poinu, thoigh, they thought they were wmart, and mabe rhe settings-managex thing checy if a cettain key combo did morz than one thing. Dince theh, I've ditched it. K nved <Dlt>Button1 to do two things.
<fhawarma> odong: I need it jo inityate windoa movc AND raise the winfow.
<jdlnc> shawarma: ah, interesting. I haven't ran invp problems loka tvat yet... chere's just some Bewyl features I really come to love ahd depeid on.
<shawarmw> jdong: I thitn the window preview thibg iw reallh cool.
<jdong> shaearma: riny tasj switcher, transpavent zhbe, 3D elevated cnneows, window prefied, igvvrt cjnor scheme.....
<shdwaroa> gcong: Uf course I'ye ceen too frickin' lazy to fils a bug.
<shawarma> jdpnn
a window on an off-screen buffer <jdong> X able to it on the bling? <jdong> yeah, I that's probably the step towards bling <jdong> Beryl I can operate solely from the composite extension <jdong> (though very inefficiently <shawarma> Ok. jdong: Do you use beryl or compiz? <Slant_Laptop> I have a package patch slab gnome-main-menu. it it to get REVU access, or can I just post the debdiff to the relevant bugs someone else will get to it? <jdong> I both around, but personally prefer Beryl for myself <jdong> like they've added, the amount customizability too <shawarma> Are there bugs on launchpad for it? <jdong> but Compiz would be more appropriate for a more oriented system. If so, attach debdiffs and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors captures a lot of the usability without obnoxious effects :) <Slant_Laptop> shawarma: Thanks. <shawarma> I used like it, too. At some point, they thought they were smart, and made the thing check if a certain key combo did more than one thing. Since then, I've I need <Alt>Button1 to two things. <shawarma> I it initiate move AND the window. <jdong> shawarma: ah, interesting. I haven't ran into problems that yet... there's just some Beryl features I really come and on. <shawarma> jdong: think the window preview is cool. <jdong> shawarma: ring transparent 3D preview, color <shawarma> jdong: Of course been too frickin' lazy to a bug. <shawarma> jdong
 a window on an off-screen buffeR
<jdong> then Have X Be aBle To Put iT on tHe screen, etc.
<shaWArma> Jdong: => bling? Cool.
<jdong> yeaH, I thiNk THat's PRoBably The firsT StEP TowArDs BliNg
<JDoNg> BerYl I Know can Operate solEly FrOm the composiTE eXtension
<jdOng> (Though very inEffIcientLy
<ShaWArma> OK.
<shAwarmA> jdong: dO you usE beryl or cOmPIz?
<SlanT_laptop> I HAVe A pacKage patch for slab / gNOmE-Main-menu. Is it woRth it tO gET Revu acCesS, or can I jusT pOst thE Debdiff TO tHE REleVAnt bugs and somEone else wilL Get To it?
<jdOnG> I hAVe both ArounD, bUT peRsonally I prEfer beryl for mYself
<jDOng> I likE What theY've addEd, aNd tHe exTReMe AmoUnT Of cUStOmiZAbiLity too
<sHaWaRma> SlAnt_LAPTOP: Are TheRe buGs on lAunchpad for it?
<JdoNg> buT comPiz woUld be More ApProprIate foR a morE pRofessional-use oRienTed system.
<ShaWaRma> slAnt_LaPTop: If sO, juSt aTtach thE debdifFS thErE AND sUbscribe ubuntu-univErSE-SpOnsors
<jdOng> it cAPtUrES a lot of tHe UsaBiliTY FeatuRes oF CoMpositinG withoUT oBnOxious eFfEcts :)
<SlAnT_LaPtoP> shawARma: THanks.
<sHawarma> jDong: I USed to like it, too. aT some point, thoUGh, THEy THougHt tHey were smarT, and MAde tHe seTTiNgs-MAnageR thinG cHEcK If a certain key combo dId More thAn one Thing. Since theN, I've ditcheD IT. i need <Alt>buttON1 tO Do two things.
<shaWarma> Jdong: I need IT to initiAte wiNdow move aND raise tHE Window.
<jdOng> ShaWarMa: aH, INtEresting. I haveN'T Ran iNtO probleMs lIke that Yet... TheRe's JusT sOme Beryl fEatures I ReAlLy CoMe tO love ANd depend On.
<ShaWaRma> Jdong: i Think tHe winDow pReViEW thIng is reALlY COol.
<jDoNg> ShawArmA: rIng taSk swITchEr, transParent cubE, 3D eLEvatEd WiNdows, wiNdow preview, inVeRt color schEmE.....
<shAwarma> JDOng: Of couRse I've been too frickin' lazY To file a Bug.
<ShawaRma> jDong
 a window on an off-screen  buffer
<j dong>  th enha ve X  beable to put it on t he screen, etc.
<shawa rma>jd o ng:= >bling ? Cool. <j d o ng>  y ea h,It hi nk th at' s proba bly the fi rst  s tep towardsb li ng
<jdong>  Be ryl I know c anoperat esol e ly fr omthe c omposi t e exte nsion
<jd on g > (tho u gh very i ne ffic iently
<shawarma> Ok . 
<shawarma> jd ong: D oy ou u seber yl or comp iz ?
<Sl a nt_Lapt o p> I hav e  a package pa tch for sla b  /gnome- ma in- m enu. I s itwo r thit to get R EVUaccess, o r canI  just p o st thedebdif f t o t he r e le va ntbu g s a n dsom e one  else wi ll  g et to  it? < j d ong>  Ihave  both  around, butper sona l lyI pre fer B eryl  f or my self
< jdong >I like what the y've  added, a ndth e e xt remea mountofcus tomizab ility t o o
< sh a w a rm a> Slant_Laptop: A re t he re bugson lau n ch pa d  for it? 
< jdo ng>b u t Com pizw ou ld be mo re app r op ri ate for  a  morepr ofe ssi onal- u se o riente d system .
<sh a warma> Slant_L a ptop: If so,j us t at t achthe  debdiffs t here andsubs c ri beu buntu -univ er s e- s ponsors
<jdong> itca ptures  a lo t of the usab ility feat u r e s of com posi t in g  without obnox iouseffects :) <Slant_L aptop > shawar ma: Thank s . 
<shawar ma>  jd ong : I u se d to like it, t oo.At  some p oin t, thou gh,  th eytho ug ht they w ere smar t,  a nd  m ade  thes ettings- ma nag er  th ing c h eck if  a ce rtai nke y  co mbo did mo r e  tha non e th ing .Since  the n , I 've dit ched it.I n e ed < Al t> Button1  to do two th in gs.
<shawa rm a>jdong: I  need it  to initiate window mov e  AND ra ise  thewind ow.
<jdon g>shawar ma: ah, in terest ing.Ihav e n 't ra n in topr oblems lik e tha t yet .. . th ere's j ust some Beryl fea t ure s I really co meto l o v eand de p end  o n .
< s h awarma> jdong:I think th ew in dow previe w  th in g is re ally co ol.
< j dong> s hawarma:ring task  s witc h e r,transparen t cube,3D elevat e d win d ow s, wi ndo w prev ie w,inver t colo r  sc heme. ....
< sh awarma > jdo ng : Of cou rse I've been too frick in' la zy to  fi le a bug. 
<s h awa rma> jdon g
 a_window on_an off-screen buffer
<jdong> then_have X_be_able to_put_it on the_screen, etc.
<shawarma> jdong:_=> bling? Cool.
<jdong> yeah,_I think that's_probably_the first step towards bling
<jdong> Beryl I know can operate solely from the composite_extension
<jdong>_(though very_inefficiently
<shawarma>_Ok.
<shawarma>_jdong: Do you use beryl_or compiz?
<Slant_Laptop> I have a_package patch_for slab / gnome-main-menu. Is it worth it_to_get REVU access,_or can I just post the debdiff to the_relevant bugs and someone else will_get to it?
<jdong>_I_have_both around, but personally_I prefer Beryl for myself
<jdong> I_like what they've added, and the_extreme amount of customizability too
<shawarma> Slant_Laptop: Are_there bugs on launchpad for it?
<jdong>_but Compiz would be more_appropriate for_a more professional-use oriented system.
<shawarma>_Slant_Laptop: If so,_just attach_the debdiffs there_and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<jdong> it captures a_lot of the_usability features of compositing without obnoxious_effects_:)
<Slant_Laptop> shawarma: Thanks.
<shawarma>_jdong:_I_used to_like it, too._At_some point,_though,_they thought they were smart, and_made_the settings-manager thing check if a certain_key combo did more_than_one thing. Since then,_I've ditched it. I need_<Alt>Button1 to do two things.
<shawarma> jdong:_I need_it to_initiate window move AND raise the window.
<jdong> shawarma: ah, interesting. I_haven't ran into problems like that_yet... there's just some_Beryl features_I_really come to_love_and depend_on.
<shawarma> jdong: I think the window preview_thing is_really cool.
<jdong> shawarma: ring task switcher,_transparent cube, 3D elevated_windows,_window preview, invert color scheme.....
<shawarma> jdong:_Of course I've been too frickin'_lazy to file a bug.
<shawarma>_jdong