> OK, I'm going to run now
<mlankhorst> and dpms working :p
<alf__> mlankhorst: I think you (?) mentioned at one point that we shouldn't dup a drm fd. Do you know if it's OK to dup() it, close the old fd and only use the new one?
<mlankhorst> as long as you only use 1 copy it's fine
<alf__> mlankhorst: thanks
<DalekSec> camako: Right, we haven't really done much with it since 13.10, just some mild testing every so often.
#ubuntu-mir 2015-11-23
<alan_g> alf_: anpok_ with krillin CI problems again I'm strongly inclined to land some "easy stuff" by hand. Starting with lp:~afrantzis/mir/fix-1517990 - any objections?
<alf_> alan_g: no
<anpok_> sure!
<alan_g> In that case, I'm accepting suggestions
<ahayzen> Hey guys, I've just reported bug 1518935, but I'm not sure which part of the platform is causing it, I think it is possibly QtMir but wanted to ask you guys before I add the project as affected?
<ubot5> bug 1518935 in Canonical System Image "When an application is suspended or closed it causes a large UI stutter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518935
<greyback_> ahayzen: hard to know for sure, someone would need to investigate. I suggest unity8 at the very least
<ahayzen> greyback_, ok thanks :-)
<dandrader> alan_g, any reason why size hints (min and max size, size increment value) are not properties of mir::scene::surface?
<alan_g> dandrader: because they are specific to window management
<dandrader> alan_g, I'm doing a lot of gymnastics to get that info from mir::shell::WindowManager methods to our MirSurface object in Unity.Application
<alan_g> dandrader: that's because the window management work for qtmir hasn't been done yet
<alan_g> greyback_ and I are due to start it on Wednesday

> OK, I'm going to run now 
 < mlankhorst > and dpms working :p 
 < alf _ _ > mlankhorst: I remember you (?) mention at one point that we shouldn't dup a drm fd. Do you know if it's OK to dup () it, conclude the old fd and only practice the new one? 
 < mlankhorst > as long as you only practice 1 transcript it's fine 
 < alf _ _ > mlankhorst: thanks 
 < DalekSec > camako: Right, we haven't really dress much with it since 13.10, just some mild examination every so often. 
 # ubuntu - mir 2015 - 11 - 23 
 < alan_g > alf _: anpok _ with krillin CI trouble again I'm strongly inclined to bring some " easy stuff " by hand. begin with lp:~afrantzis / mir / fix-1517990 - any objections? 
 < alf _ > alan_g: no 
 < anpok _ > sure! 
 < alan_g > In that case, I'm accepting suggestion 
 < ahayzen > Hey guys, I've just reported bug 1518935, but I'm not sure which function of the platform is causing it, I think it is possibly QtMir but wanted to ask you guy before I add the project as affected? 
 < ubot5 > bug 1518935 in Canonical System Image " When an application is suspended or closed it causes a large UI stutter " [ open, New ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518935 
 < greyback _ > ahayzen: hard to know for certain, someone would want to investigate. I suggest unity8 at the very least 
 < ahayzen > greyback _, ok thanks :-) 
 < dandrader > alan_g, any reason why size hint (minute and max size, size increment value) are not properties of mir::scene::surface? 
 < alan_g > dandrader: because they are specific to window management 
 < dandrader > alan_g, I'm suffice a lot of gymnastics to get that info from mir::shell::WindowManager methods to our MirSurface object in Unity. Application 
 < alan_g > dandrader: that's because the window management work for qtmir hasn't been done yet 
 < alan_g > greyback _ and I are due to begin it on Wednesday
> OK, I'm going to run now
<mlanyhorst> and dpms workinj :p
<alf__> jlankhorrt: I think you (?) mentioned at obe pount that we shouldn't djp a drm vd. Do yoy kniq if it's OK to dup() it, clkde tke old fd and onky use the new one?
<mlankhmrrt> as long as you only use 1 copy it's sine
<alf__> mpankhorst: thanhs
<DakqkSed> camako: Right, we haven't really dohe much with it sincr 13.10, just some mild testing fverj so often.
#ubuntu-mig 2015-11-23
<alan_g> alf_: anpjj_ with krillkn CI problems again I'j strongly inclined to land somd "easv stuff" by yabd. Djarting with lp:~afgantzis/mir/fix-1517990 - any obbectionx?
<alf_> alan_g: no
<akpok_> vurw!
<alan_g> In that case, I'k accepting suggesjions
<ahayzan> Hey guys, I've jusr eeporjed bgg 1518935, cyt K'm hov shre whlch part of tge platform is causing it, I thonh it is possibmy QtMyr but wanted to ask you guys before I adg tge project as affected?
<uvot5> bug 1518935 in Canonical System Iiage "When an application is suspended or closed id cauads c largd UL stutter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518935
<gwsynabk_> ahayzen: hard tj know for xuge, fomeone would need ck jnvestigate. I suggfst unijy8 at rhe very jeasy
<ahayzen> greyback_, ok thanks :-)
<dandrader> ajqn_g, any reason why size hints (min and kax size, size increment valhe) are not oropertiea of mir::scene::surfxce?
<sldn_g> dandrader: because they are specmfic co windod mamagemegt
<dandradeg> alak_c, I'm doing a lot ov gymuastiws to get hhat info from mir::shell::WindowMaieger methods jo mur MirSurfcce obmect in Unity.Ap[lication
<alan_g> dandraber: thxt's becausv the winvow managemegt work for qdlir hasn't bexn done yqt
<alqn_g> treybacy_ and I are due to start it on Wedbesday

> OK, I'm going to run now dpms :p <alf__> I think you that shouldn't dup a fd. Do you if it's OK to dup() it, the old fd and only use the new one? <mlankhorst> as long as only use 1 copy it's fine <alf__> mlankhorst: thanks <DalekSec> camako: Right, we really much it 13.10, just some mild testing every so often. #ubuntu-mir 2015-11-23 <alan_g> alf_: anpok_ with krillin CI again I'm strongly inclined to land some "easy by hand. Starting with - any objections? <alf_> alan_g: <anpok_> <alan_g> In case, accepting <ahayzen> Hey guys, just reported bug 1518935, but I'm not sure which part of the platform is causing it, I it is but wanted ask guys I add the affected? <ubot5> bug 1518935 in Canonical an application is suspended or closed it causes large UI [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518935 <greyback_> ahayzen: hard to for sure, someone would need to investigate. I unity8 at the very least <ahayzen> greyback_, ok thanks :-) <dandrader> alan_g, any reason why (min and max size, increment value) are properties mir::scene::surface? dandrader: they are to window management <dandrader> alan_g, I'm doing a lot of gymnastics get that info from mir::shell::WindowManager methods to our MirSurface object <alan_g> that's because the management work for qtmir been yet <alan_g> greyback_ and due start
> OK, I'm going to run now
<mlankhorSt> and dpms wOrkinG :p
<aLf__> mLaNkhoRst: I Think you (?) mentioNEd at One point that we shouldn't Dup a dRm FD. Do yOU kNow if It's OK to DUp() IT, CloSe ThE olD fD AnD only Use The new oNe?
<mlankhorSt> aS lOng as you only USe 1 Copy it's finE
<alF__> mlankhorst: tHanKs
<DaleKSEc> cAMako: RIghT, we haVen't reALly donE much with It SInce 13.10, juST some miLD TeStinG every so often.
#ubunTU-mIR 2015-11-23
<alan_g> alf_: anpok_ With krIlLIn ci ProBleMs again I'm sTrOngly INclined TO lAND SomE "Easy stuff" by haNd. Starting wITh lP:~afranTzIs/mIR/fix-1517990 - anY objeCtIOns?
<Alf_> alan_g: no
<aNpok_> Sure!
<alan_g> in that CAse, I'm acCEpting sUggestIonS
<ahAyzeN> heY gUys, i'vE JusT RePorTEd bUg 1518935, but I'm nOt SuRe whiCh paRT OF The pLatForm Is cauSing it, I think iT is PossIBly qtMir But waNted To Ask yoU guys bEfore i aDd the project as aFfecTed?
<ubot5> buG 1518935 in caNonIcAl SysTEm ImagE "WhEn aN applicAtion is SUspEnDED Or Closed it causes a larGe ui StUtter" [UndEcided,nEw] HtTPs://launchPaD.neT/bugS/1518935
<GReybaCk_> ahAYzEn: hard to Know foR SuRe, Someone WoUld neeD tO inVesTigatE. i sugGest unIty8 at the Very lEAst
<ahayzen> greyBAck_, ok thanks :-)
<daNDrADEr> ALan_g, Any Reason why siZe hiNTs (miN and MAx SizE, Size iNcremEnT VaLUe) are not properties oF mIr::scenE::surfAce?
<alan_g> dandrAder: becausE THEy are speCifiC To WIndow managemenT
<dandRader> alan_g, i'M doing a lOt of gYmnasticS to get thaT INfo from mIr::sHelL::WiNdoWmAnAger methods to OUR MirsuRface obJecT in UnitY.ApPliCatIon
<AlAn_g> dandraDer: that's BeCaUsE tHe wIndow MAnagemenT wOrk FoR qtMir haSN't been Done yEt
<alAn_G> gREybAck_ and I ARe DUE to sTaRt It on wedNeSday

> OK, I'm going to run now 
<mlankhor st> a nddpm swork ing:p
<alf__> mla n khor st: I think you (?) me ntion ed at o n epoint  that w e  s h o uld n' tdup  a dr m fd.  Do  you kn ow if it's  OK  t o dup() it,c lo se the old  fd  and only us e t he new  o ne? <mlan kho rst>as lon g  as yo u only us e1  copyi t's fin e <a lf__ > mlankhorst: tha n ks <DalekSec> cam ako: R ig h t, w e h ave n't really  d one m u ch with it s i nce 13.10, just s ome mild te s tin g ever ysoo ften.#ubun tu - mir  2015-11-23 
<al an_g> alf _: anp o k_ with krillin  CI pr obl ems  aga i nI' m s tr o ngl y  i ncl i ned  to land  s om e "ea sy s t u f f " by  ha nd.Start ing with lp:~ afr antz i s/m ir/fi x-151 7990  -  anyobject ions? 
< alf_> alan_g: n o
<a npok_> su re! 
< ala n_ g> In that c ase , I 'm acce pting s u gge st i o n s<ahayzen> Hey guys ,I ' ve  just re ported bu g1 518935,bu t I 'm n o t  sure  whi c hpart ofthe pl a tf or m is ca us ing it ,I t hin k iti s po ssibly  QtMir b ut wa n ted to ask you guys before I ad d th e  pro jec t as affect ed?< ubot 5> b u g151 8 935 i n Can on i ca l  System Image "When  a n appl icati on is suspend ed or clos e d it cause s al ar g e UI stutter"[Unde cided,New] https:// launc hpad.net /bugs/151 8 9 35
<grey bac k_>  ah ayz e n :hard to knowf o r su re , someo newould n eed  to  in ves ti gate. I s uggest u ni ty 8at  th e ver y  least
< ah ayz en > g reyba c k_, ok  than ks : -) 
< d and rader>a la n _ g, a ny  r easo n w hy  size  hin t s ( min and  max size , s i ze i nc re ment va lue) are notpr operties o fmir ::scen e : :surface ?
<alan_g> dandrader: b e cause t hey  arespec ific to w ind ow man age m ent
<d andrad er> a la n_g , I'm d o i ng  alo t of gymna s t ics  to g et  tha t infofrom mir::shell::W i ndo wManager meth ods  too u rMir S ur f ace  o b jec t in Unity.Applic ation
<ala n_ g >dandrader: tha t' s becau se thewindo w  manage ment work  for qtmi rhasn ' t  be en done ye t
<alan_ g> greyba c k_ an d  I  aredue  to st ar t i t onWednes d ay
> OK,_I'm going_to run now
<mlankhorst> and_dpms working_:p
<alf__>_mlankhorst: I_think_you (?) mentioned_at one point_that we shouldn't dup_a drm fd._Do_you know if it's OK to dup() it, close the old fd and only_use_the new_one?
<mlankhorst>_as_long as you only use_1 copy it's fine
<alf__> mlankhorst:_thanks
<DalekSec> camako:_Right, we haven't really done much with it_since_13.10, just some_mild testing every so often.
#ubuntu-mir 2015-11-23
<alan_g> alf_: anpok_ with_krillin CI problems again I'm strongly_inclined to land_some_"easy_stuff" by hand. Starting_with lp:~afrantzis/mir/fix-1517990 - any objections?
<alf_> alan_g:_no
<anpok_> sure!
<alan_g> In that case, I'm_accepting suggestions
<ahayzen> Hey guys, I've just reported_bug 1518935, but I'm not sure_which part of the platform_is causing_it, I think it is_possibly QtMir but_wanted to_ask you guys_before I add the project as_affected?
<ubot5> bug 1518935_in Canonical System Image "When an_application_is suspended or_closed_it_causes a_large UI stutter"_[Undecided,New]_https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518935
<greyback_> ahayzen:_hard_to know for sure, someone would_need_to investigate. I suggest unity8 at the_very least
<ahayzen> greyback_, ok_thanks_:-)
<dandrader> alan_g, any reason_why size hints (min and_max size, size increment value) are_not properties_of mir::scene::surface?
<alan_g>_dandrader: because they are specific to window management
<dandrader> alan_g, I'm doing_a lot of gymnastics to get_that info from mir::shell::WindowManager_methods to_our_MirSurface object in_Unity.Application
<alan_g>_dandrader: that's_because the window management work for qtmir_hasn't been_done yet
<alan_g> greyback_ and I are_due to start it_on_Wednesday
