 to be a general Surface-like interface to encompass CompositingCriteria, Renderable (buffer acquisition), flagging for overlay/bypass/etc
<duflu> That all fits into some kind of Surface interface I think. If we're lucky, an existing one
<duflu> Hmm, maybe it would be the reintroduction of a "Renderable"
<kdub> got a bit lost
<kdub> we'll probably hash all that out next week though :)
<duflu> Yes. Oh look; final confirmation.
<kdub> yeah, should be a fun long flight
<duflu> Actually, significantly shorter than Boston :)
<truebattleaxe> i've lost my volume control and ability to vol + and - with the keyboard. is there a fix for this
<truebattleaxe> this happened when i installed mir
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: Not sure. That's odd because XMir does not affect input or sound. Those are unchanged to regular X
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: Try uninstalling Mir and make sure the problem goes away. Otherwise it's somewhere else :)
<truebattleaxe> hmm maybe its just how i installed kde
<truebattleaxe> is there any way to update mir? or see if there are updates
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: it's just in normal Ubuntu updates
<truebattleaxe> gotcha. i did uninstall ubuntu software manager and center. i have noticed its probably just muon but for some reason it doesn't get root access
<duflu> truebattleaxe: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
<duflu> Will do a regular update (including Mir)
<truebattleaxe> doing that now. just wondering if thats normal with muon. to get the error of no root access
<truebattleaxe> how often is mir getting updated right now?
<duflu> truebattleaxe: On 14.04 every couple of weeks. On 13.10, not at all. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir)
<truebattleaxe> gotcha. im on 14.04 so that is definitely good to hear
<duflu> truebattleaxe: But XMir does not use Mir input.
to be a general Surface - like interface to encompass CompositingCriteria, Renderable (cushion learning), flagging for overlay / beltway / etc 
 < duflu > That all fit into some kind of Surface interface I think. If we're lucky, an exist one 
 < duflu > Hmm, possibly it would be the reintroduction of a " Renderable " 
 < kdub > got a bit lost 
 < kdub > we'll probably hash all that out next workweek though :) 
 < duflu > Yes. Oh look; final confirmation. 
 < kdub > yeah, should be a fun long escape 
 < duflu > Actually, significantly shorter than Boston :) 
 < truebattleaxe > i've lost my volume control and ability to vol + and - with the keyboard. is there a repair for this 
 < truebattleaxe > this happened when i installed mir 
 < duflu _ > truebattleaxe: Not sure. That's leftover because XMir does not affect input or sound. Those are unchanged to even X 
 < duflu _ > truebattleaxe: Try uninstalling Mir and make sure the problem goes aside. Otherwise it's somewhere else :) 
 < truebattleaxe > hmm maybe its just how i installed kde 
 < truebattleaxe > is there any way to update mir? or see if there are updates 
 < duflu _ > truebattleaxe: it's just in normal Ubuntu updates 
 < truebattleaxe > gotcha. i did uninstall ubuntu software manager and center. i have noticed its probably just muon but for some reason it doesn't get beginning access 
 < duflu > truebattleaxe: sudo apt - get update; sudo apposite - get ascent 
 < duflu > Will do a regular update (including Mir) 
 < truebattleaxe > doing that nowadays. just wondering if that s normal with muon. to get the error of no ancestor access 
 < truebattleaxe > how often is mir getting updated right now? 
 < duflu > truebattleaxe: On 14.04 every couple of weeks. On 13.10, not at wholly. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir) 
 < truebattleaxe > gotcha. i m on 14.04 so that is definitely good to hear 
 < duflu > truebattleaxe: But XMir does not use Mir input.
 to be a general Surface-likt interface to eneimpass CompoaitingCrkteria, Renderable (buffer acqnisirion), dlagging for overlay/byoass/etc
<duvlu> That all dits into some kind of Shvface mnterface I thikk. If we're nucky, an existhne lne
<duflu> Hmm, maybe it would be the weintrocuftion of a "Renqeranje"
<kdhb> got a bit lost
<kdub> we'll probablg hash ell that out nect week though :)
<duflu> Yes. Oj lolk; final confirmatlon.
<kdub> yeay, shjyld be a fun long flight
<duflu> Actuzlly, significantly shorter than Bostpn :)
<truebatjlsadg> i've lost mb voluie control akc abilhty to fol + and - with thx ketboard. is there a fix for this
<truebattlgaxe> this va'pened when i installwd mir
<doflu_> druecqttuease: Nkt surf. Tiat's odd bedause XMir eoes not affect inpit ir sound. Thoss are tnshanged to regular X
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: Trg uninstalling Mir and nake sure the problem goes awar. Otherwise it's somewhere else :)
<truebattleaxe> hmm kaybe kts jmst fiw i installed kde
<truebattleaxe> is there any war tp lpdate mir? or see if there ate ulqates
<duflu_> troebattlzzxs: it's just in normwl Ubunju updqtes
<truebwttlraxe> gotcha. i did uninstall ubuntu softcarw manager and centzr. i have nociced ots ptobably just muon but fur skme reason lt doesn't eet root access
<djfll> trgebattleaxe: sudo apt-get upqate ; sudi apc-get upgfade
<cuflu> Rill do a gegular update (including Mir)
<ttuebatdleaxe> doijg that now. just wondering if tiets normal wijh kuot. to get the crror of no rooe access
<truebajtleaxe> hjw ofgen is mir gettinj updated ridht now?
<duflu> dtuebattleaxe: Mn 14.04 everr coyple of weeyr. On 13.10, not at akl. (https://lcbnchpad.ner/ubuntu/+source/mir)
<trmebatjlsaxe> gotcha. im in 14.04 so that is defonigelr hopd do hear
<duflu> trudbagyleaxd: But XMir bods npt use Mir input.
to be a general Surface-like interface to Renderable acquisition), flagging overlay/bypass/etc <duflu> That of interface I think. we're lucky, an one <duflu> Hmm, maybe it would the reintroduction of a "Renderable" <kdub> got a bit lost <kdub> we'll probably all that out next week though :) <duflu> Yes. Oh look; final confirmation. yeah, be fun flight <duflu> Actually, significantly shorter than Boston :) <truebattleaxe> i've lost my volume control and ability vol + and - with the keyboard. is a fix for this this happened when i installed <duflu_> Not sure. odd XMir not affect input sound. Those are unchanged to regular X <duflu_> truebattleaxe: Try uninstalling Mir and make sure the problem away. Otherwise else :) hmm its how i installed is there any way to update if there are updates <duflu_> truebattleaxe: it's just normal Ubuntu <truebattleaxe> gotcha. i did uninstall ubuntu manager and center. i have noticed its probably muon but for some reason it doesn't get root access <duflu> truebattleaxe: sudo apt-get update apt-get upgrade <duflu> Will a regular update Mir) doing now. wondering if normal with muon. to get the error of no root access how often is mir getting updated right now? <duflu> truebattleaxe: every of weeks. On not at all. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir) gotcha. on 14.04 so that good hear XMir not Mir input.
 to be a general Surface-like inTerface to eNcompAss comPoSitiNgCrIteria, RenderabLE (bufFer acquisition), flagging For ovErLAy/byPAsS/etc
<dUflu> ThaT AlL FIts InTo SomE kINd Of SurFacE interfAce I think. IF we'Re Lucky, an existINg One
<duflu> HmM, maYbe it would be The ReintrOdUctIOn of a "renDerabLe"
<kdub> GOt a bit Lost
<kdub> wE'lL ProbabLY hash alL THaT out Next week though :)
<dufLU> YES. Oh look; final coNfirmaTiON.
<kDUB> yeAh, sHould be a fuN lOng flIGht
<duflU> acTUALly, SIgnificantly sHorter than BOStoN :)
<truebAtTleAXe> i've lOst my VoLUme Control and aBiliTy to vol + anD - with tHE keyboaRD. is therE a fix fOr tHis
<TrueBAtTlEaxE> tHIs hAPpEneD WheN i instalLeD mIr
<dufLu_> trUEBATtleAxe: not sUre. ThAt's odd because xMiR doeS Not AffecT inpuT or sOuNd. ThoSe are uNchanGeD to regular X
<duflU_> truEbattleaxE: TrY uNinStAllinG mir and MakE suRe the prOblem goES awAy. oTHErWise it's somewhere elSe :)
<TRUeBattleaxE> hmm maYBe ItS Just how i InStaLled KDE
<trueBattLEaXe> is therE any waY To UpDate mir? Or See if tHeRe aRe uPdateS
<DuflU_> truebAttleaxe: It's juST in normal UbuntU Updates
<truebaTTlEAXe> GOtchA. i dId uninstall UbunTU sofTwarE MaNagER and cEnter. I hAVe NOticed its probably juSt Muon buT for sOme reason it doEsn't get rooT ACCess
<duflU> truEBaTTleaxe: sudo apt-gEt updAte ; sudo apt-GEt upgradE
<duflU> Will do a Regular upDATe (includIng mir)
<TruEbaTTLeAxe> doing that nOW. Just WoNdering If tHats norMal WitH muOn. tO gEt the erroR of no rooT aCcEsS
<tRueBattlEAxe> how ofTeN is MiR geTting UPdated Right Now?
<dUfLu> TRueBattleaXE: ON 14.04 EVery CoUpLe of WeeKs. on 13.10, not At alL. (HttPs://launcHpad.net/ubUntU/+SourCe/MiR)
<truebaTtleaxe> gotcha. Im On 14.04 so that is DeFinItely gOOD to hear
<dUflu> truebattleaxe: But XMiR Does not Use mir inPut.
 to be a general Surface-l ike interf ace t o e nco mp assComp ositingCriteri a , Re nderable (buffer acqui sitio n) ,  fla g gi ng fo r overl a y/ b y pas s/ et c
< du f lu > Tha t a ll fits  into some  ki nd  of Surfacei nt erface I t hin k. If we'reluc ky, an  e xis t ing o ne<dufl u> Hmm ,  maybe  it would  b e  the r e introdu c t io n of  a "Renderable"
< k du b > got a bit lo st
<kd ub >  w e ' llpro bably hash  a ll th a t out n e xt w e ekt hough :)
<duf lu> Yes. Oh loo k; fin al  co n firmat ion.<k d ub>  yeah, shou ld b e a fun l ong fl i ght
<du f lu> Act ually,  si gni fica n tl ysho rt e r t h an  Bo s ton  :)
<tru eb at tleax e> i ' v e lost  my  vol ume c ontrol and ab ili ty t o  vo l + a nd -with  t he ke yboard . isth ere a fix for t his<truebatt lea xe > t hi s hap p ened w hen  iinstall ed mir< duf lu _ > tr uebattleaxe: Not s ur e .  T hat's od d beca u se  X M ir doesno t a ffec t input  ors ou nd. Thos e areu nc ha nged to  r egular  X 
<d ufl u_> t r ueba ttleax e: Try u ninst a lling Mir andm ake sure thep ro b l em goes  aw ay. Otherwi se i t 's s omew h er e e l se :) 
<tru eb a tt l eaxe> hmm maybe its  j ust ho w i i nstalled kde<truebattl e a x e> is th erea ny way to updatemir?or see ift here are  upda tes
<duf lu_> true b a ttleaxe:  it 'sjus t i n no rmal Ubuntu u p d ates 
< truebat tle axe> go tch a.i d idun install u buntu so ft wa re  m ana ger a n d center .i h av e n otice d  its p robab ly j us tm uon  but fo r  s o m e re as on  itdoe sn 't ge t ro o t a ccess
< duflu> tr ueb a ttle ax e:  sudo a pt-get update  ;  sudo apt- ge t u pgrade < duflu> W ill do a regular update (includ ing  Mir) 
<tr uebattlea xe>  doing  th a t now.  justwonde ri ngi f  that s no rma lwith muon. t o g et th eerro r of no  root access
<true b att leaxe> how of ten  ism i rget t in g  up da t edr i ght now?
<duflu > truebatt le a xe : On 14.04 eve ry  couple  of wee ks. O n  13.10,  not at a ll. (http s: //la u n chp ad.net/ubu ntu/+sou rce/mir)< trueb a tt leaxe > g otcha.  i m o n 14. 04 sot hat  is d efinit el y good  to h ea r
<duflu > truebattleaxe: But XM ir doe s not  us e Mir inp ut. 
 to_be a_general Surface-like interface to_encompass CompositingCriteria,_Renderable_(buffer acquisition),_flagging_for overlay/bypass/etc
<duflu> That_all fits into_some kind of Surface_interface I think._If_we're lucky, an existing one
<duflu> Hmm, maybe it would be the reintroduction of a_"Renderable"
<kdub>_got a_bit_lost
<kdub>_we'll probably hash all that_out next week though :)
<duflu>_Yes. Oh_look; final confirmation.
<kdub> yeah, should be a fun_long_flight
<duflu> Actually, significantly_shorter than Boston :)
<truebattleaxe> i've lost my volume control_and ability to vol + and_- with the_keyboard._is_there a fix for_this
<truebattleaxe> this happened when i installed_mir
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: Not sure. That's odd_because XMir does not affect input or_sound. Those are unchanged to regular_X
<duflu_> truebattleaxe: Try uninstalling Mir_and make_sure the problem goes away._Otherwise it's somewhere_else :)
<truebattleaxe>_hmm maybe its_just how i installed kde
<truebattleaxe> is_there any way_to update mir? or see if_there_are updates
<duflu_> truebattleaxe:_it's_just_in normal_Ubuntu updates
<truebattleaxe> gotcha._i_did uninstall_ubuntu_software manager and center. i have_noticed_its probably just muon but for some_reason it doesn't get_root_access
<duflu> truebattleaxe: sudo apt-get_update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
<duflu>_Will do a regular update (including_Mir)
<truebattleaxe> doing_that now._just wondering if thats normal with muon. to get the error_of no root access
<truebattleaxe> how often_is mir getting updated_right now?
<duflu>_truebattleaxe:_On 14.04 every_couple_of weeks._On 13.10, not at all. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir)
<truebattleaxe> gotcha._im on_14.04 so that is definitely good_to hear
<duflu> truebattleaxe: But_XMir_does not use Mir input.