 you've been using it, you've been doing things wrong.
<hyperair> AdamDH: did you read ANY DAMN THING that directhex just said?!
<AdamDH> yes I did, want to start a fresh so I can explain what I have started with?
<directhex> if the upstream tarball says 0.14, and versions are meant to be upstream-revision, then the format must be 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1
<AdamDH> I think your refering to something I know as something else so its causing a little confusion, sorry
 * hyperair will now head out to eat dinner.
<directhex> using a native package causes significant issues, as it kills off the orig/diff system
<directhex> i.e. you no longer have a pristine upstream tarball (orig) against which your packaging work applies (diff) so updates to the existing version are impossible (can't re-use orig)
<AdamDH> the upstream tar is 0.14 so it should be upstream-revision? so I should be using 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1?
<AdamDH> right makes sense
<directhex> and if you're only going into a PPA for now, append ~ppa1 to the end, meaning "this is the PPA version of 0.14-0ubuntu1, but i want the'real' 0.14-0ubuntu1 to be installed given the option"
<directhex> that way a distro 0.14-0ubuntu1 repolaces your PPA version
<AdamDH> the packages I created in my PPA I did msp430-binutils - 2.19.1-0ubuntu1~ppa4 etc
<AdamDH> but I am working with packages created by some one else at the moment hence the confusion and updating those
<AdamDH> thanks for the help directhex, hyperair
<directhex> james_w, ping
<james_w> directhex: hey
<directhex> james_w, can you forward me the monodevelop-debugger-gdb reject mail? it's simply not on the ubuntu-archive archive
<james_w> the reject mail is just the autogenerated one
<james_w> I haven't received an explanation mail
<directhex
you've been using it, you've been doing things wrong. 
 < hyperair > AdamDH: did you understand ANY DAMN matter that directhex just said? ! 
 < AdamDH > yes I did, desire to start a clean so I can explain what I have started with? 
 < directhex > if the upstream tarball order 0.14, and versions are meant to be upstream - rewrite, then the format must be 0.14 - 1 or 0.14 - 0ubuntu1 
 < AdamDH > I remember your refering to something I know as something else so its induce a little confusion, sorry 
  * hyperair will immediately lead out to eat dinner. 
 < directhex > using a native package causes significant emergence, as it kills off the orig / diff system 
 < directhex > i.e. you no longer have a pristine upstream tarball (orig) against which your promotion work applies (diff) so update to the existing adaptation are impossible (can't re - use orig) 
 < AdamDH > the upstream tar is 0.14 so it should be upstream - revision? so I should be using 0.14 - 1 or 0.14 - 0ubuntu1? 
 < AdamDH > right make sense 
 < directhex > and if you're only going into a PPA for now, append ~ppa1 to the goal, meaning " this is the PPA version of 0.14 - 0ubuntu1, but i want the'real' 0.14 - 0ubuntu1 to be installed given the option " 
 < directhex > that way a distro 0.14 - 0ubuntu1 repolaces your PPA version 
 < AdamDH > the packages I created in my PPA I act msp430 - binutils - 2.19.1 - 0ubuntu1 ~ ppa4 etc 
 < AdamDH > but I am working with packages create by some one else at the consequence hence the confusion and updating those 
 < AdamDH > thanks for the aid directhex, hyperair 
 < directhex > james_w, ping 
 < james_w > directhex: hey 
 < directhex > james_w, can you forward me the monodevelop - debugger - gdb reject mail? it's simply not on the ubuntu - archive archive 
 < james_w > the reject mail is barely the autogenerated one 
 < james_w > I haven't received an explanation mail 
 < directhex
 yok've been using it, you've neen doing things wrong.
<iyperaid> AdamDH: did you read ANY DAMN THING tyat durecthex just said?!
<AdamAH> yes I fid, want to wrart a fresh so I gcn exlpain xhat I have statted with?
<diracthex> if the gprtxeam tarball says 0.14, and versions are ieant tp he upstream-revysiom, theh the format must be 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1
<AdajDH> I tiink your referong to something I know as somfthing else so its causing a oittjw confusion, rorry
 * hyptrcir will nos head out to eat dinner.
<directhdx> usnng a nativg lafnage causes signpficant issues, as it nills ogf the orig/difn sysvem
<durecthex> i.e. you no loiger have a pristine upstream tcrball (orig) against wyixh yoor pawkagkbg dori eppmies (dlff) so updatea to the exusting version are om[issible (can't de-use jryg)
<AdamDH> the upstream tar is 0.14 so it sholld ge upstream-revision? so U should be using 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1?
<AdwmDH> right makes sense
<directhex> and if you're only goinj knti w PPW for now, append ~ppa1 to the end, meaning "this ya uhe PPA version on 0.14-0ubuntu1, but i wany hhr'teal' 0.14-0ubuntu1 to be instamled given the optlon"
<diresthex> that way a dostro 0.14-0ubuntu1 repolaces your PPA version
<CdanDH> the packages I created in my KPA I cid msp430-binutils - 2.19.1-0ubuntu1~'pa4 etd
<AdamDH> but I am worikng with packager cgeatad by some one else at the moment hxnce che confjsiom and tpdating tjose
<AdamDH> thanks for thf helk direwthex, hypegair
<directhex> james_w, ping
<james_w> directhex: hey
<cisecnhex> jamef_w, cak you forward mq the monodevekop-debuyger-gdc reject mzil? it's simply not on the ubuntg-wrchive archmve
<james_w> the rejwct maiu is just the aitogeneraneb one
<jamew_w> I haven't receivcd an sxplanation maio
<ditwcthex
you've been using it, you've been doing <hyperair> did you ANY DAMN THING yes did, want to a fresh so can explain what I have started <directhex> if the upstream tarball says 0.14, and versions are meant to be then the format must be 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1 <AdamDH> I think your refering something know something so its causing a little confusion, sorry * hyperair will now head out to eat dinner. using a native package causes significant issues, as kills off the orig/diff <directhex> i.e. you no longer a upstream tarball against your work applies (diff) updates to the existing version are impossible (can't re-use orig) <AdamDH> the upstream tar is 0.14 so should be I should using or <AdamDH> right makes and if you're only going into now, append ~ppa1 to the end, meaning "this the PPA of 0.14-0ubuntu1, but i want the'real' to be installed given the option" <directhex> that a distro 0.14-0ubuntu1 repolaces your PPA version <AdamDH> the packages I created in my PPA msp430-binutils - 2.19.1-0ubuntu1~ppa4 etc but I am with created some else at moment hence the confusion and updating those <AdamDH> thanks for the directhex, hyperair <directhex> james_w, ping <james_w> directhex: hey <directhex> james_w, forward the monodevelop-debugger-gdb reject it's simply not on ubuntu-archive <james_w> the reject mail the one received explanation <directhex
 you've been using it, you've been Doing thingS wronG.
<hyPerAiR> AdaMDH: dId you read ANY DAmn THInG that directhex just saiD?!
<AdamdH> YEs I dID, wAnt to Start a fREsH SO I cAn ExPlaIn WHaT I havE stArted wiTh?
<directheX> if ThE upstream tarBAlL says 0.14, and veRsiOns are meant tO be UpstreAm-RevISion, tHen The foRmat muST be 0.14-1 or 0.14-0uBuntu1
<AdamdH> i Think yOUr referING tO somEthing I know as someTHiNG else so its causIng a liTtLE cONFusIon, Sorry
 * hyperAiR will NOw head oUT tO EAT diNNer.
<directhex> uSing a native PAckAge cauSeS siGNificaNt issUeS, As iT kills off thE oriG/diff systEm
<direCThex> i.e. yOU no longEr have A prIstIne uPStReAm tArBAll (ORiG) agAInsT which yoUr PaCkagiNg woRK APPlieS (diFf) so UpdatEs to the existiNg vErsiON arE impoSsiblE (can'T rE-use oRig)
<AdaMDH> thE uPstream tar is 0.14 so iT shoUld be upstReaM-rEviSiOn? so I SHould bE usIng 0.14-1 Or 0.14-0ubuntU1?
<AdamDH> RIghT mAKES sEnse
<directhex> and if YoU'RE oNly going Into a Ppa fOr NOw, append ~PpA1 to The eND, MeaniNg "thIS iS the PPA vErsion OF 0.14-0uBuNtu1, but i WaNt the'rEaL' 0.14-0ubUntU1 to be INstaLled giVen the opTion"
<dIRecthex> that way A Distro 0.14-0ubuntu1 rEPoLACeS Your pPA Version
<AdamdH> thE PackAges i CrEatED in my pPA I dId MSp430-BInutils - 2.19.1-0ubuntu1~ppa4 etc
<adAmDH> buT I am wOrking with pacKages creatED BY some one Else AT tHE moment hence thE confUsion and upDAting thoSe
<AdaMDH> thankS for the heLP DirectheX, hyPerAir
<DirECThEx> james_w, ping
<jAMEs_w> dIrEcthex: hEy
<dIrectheX> jaMes_W, caN yoU fOrward me tHe monodeVeLoP-dEbUggEr-gdb REject maiL? iT's sImPly Not on THe ubunTu-arcHive ArChIVe
<jAmes_w> thE ReJECt maIl Is Just The AuTogenEratED onE
<james_w> i haven't reCeiVEd an ExPlAnation Mail
<directhex
 you've been using it, you 've been d oingthi ngs  w rong .
<h yperair> AdamD H : di d you read ANY DAMN TH ING t ha t  dir e ct hex j ust sai d ?! < Ada mD H>  ye sI  d id, w ant  to sta rt a fresh  so  I  can explain wh at I havesta rted with?
< dir ecthex >ift he up str eam t arball says 0 .14, andve r sionsa re mean t to  beupstream-revision ,  t h en the formatmust b e0 .1 4 - 1 o r 0 .14-0ubunt u1 
<Ada m DH> I t h in k y our refering to s omething Ik now  as so me thi n g else  so i ts cau sing a litt le c onfusion,  sorry  * hype r air wil l nowhea d o ut t o  e at  di nn e r.< di rec t hex > usingana tivepack a g e caus essign ifica nt issues, as  it  kil l s o ff th e ori g/di ff  syst em
<di recth ex > i.e. you no l onge r have apri st ine  u pstre a m tarb all  (o rig) ag ainst w h ich  y o u r  p ackaging work appl ie s (d iff) soupdate s  t ot he exist in g v ersi o n  areimpo s si ble (can 't re- u se  o rig)
<A da mDH> t he  up str eam t a r is  0.14so it sh ouldb e upstream-rev i sion? so I sh o ul d be usin g 0 .14-1 or 0. 14-0 u bunt u1?< Ad amD H > rig ht ma ke s  s e nse
<directhex> and  i f you' re on ly going into  a PPA for n o w, appen d ~p p a1 to the end, me aning  "this ist he PPA v ersio n of 0.1 4-0ubuntu 1 ,  but i w ant  th e'r eal ' 0. 14-0ubuntu1 t o be i ns talledgiv en theopt ion "
< dir ec thex> tha t way adi st ro  0 .14 -0ubu n tu1 repo la ces  y our  PPAv ersion 
<Ada mDH>  t he pac kages I cr e a tedin  m y PP A I  d id ms p430 - bin utils -  2.19.1-0 ubu n tu1~ pp a4  etc
<A damDH> but Iam  working w it h p ackage s createdby some one else at the momenthen ce th e co nfusion a ndupdati ngt hose
< AdamDH > tha nk s f o r  theh e lp  di re cthex, hyp e r air 
<dir ec thex > james _w, ping
<james_w> dir ecthex: hey
< dir ecth e x >jam e s_ w , c an you f orward me the m onodevelop -d e bu gger-gdb r e jec tmail? i t's sim ply n o t on th e ubuntu- archive a rc hive < jam es_w> thereject m ail is ju s t the au togen era ted on e<ja mes_w > I ha v en' t rec eivedan  expla natio nmail
<di recthex
 you've_been using_it, you've been doing_things wrong.
<hyperair>_AdamDH:_did you_read_ANY DAMN THING_that directhex just_said?!
<AdamDH> yes I did,_want to start_a_fresh so I can explain what I have started with?
<directhex> if the upstream tarball_says_0.14, and_versions_are_meant to be upstream-revision, then_the format must be 0.14-1_or 0.14-0ubuntu1
<AdamDH>_I think your refering to something I know_as_something else so_its causing a little confusion, sorry
 * hyperair will_now head out to eat dinner.
<directhex>_using a native_package_causes_significant issues, as it_kills off the orig/diff system
<directhex> i.e._you no longer have a pristine_upstream tarball (orig) against which your packaging_work applies (diff) so updates to_the existing version are impossible_(can't re-use_orig)
<AdamDH> the upstream tar is_0.14 so it_should be_upstream-revision? so I_should be using 0.14-1 or 0.14-0ubuntu1?
<AdamDH>_right makes sense
<directhex>_and if you're only going into_a_PPA for now,_append_~ppa1_to the_end, meaning "this_is_the PPA_version_of 0.14-0ubuntu1, but i want the'real'_0.14-0ubuntu1_to be installed given the option"
<directhex> that_way a distro 0.14-0ubuntu1_repolaces_your PPA version
<AdamDH> the_packages I created in my_PPA I did msp430-binutils - 2.19.1-0ubuntu1~ppa4_etc
<AdamDH> but_I am_working with packages created by some one else at the moment_hence the confusion and updating those
<AdamDH>_thanks for the help_directhex, hyperair
<directhex>_james_w,_ping
<james_w> directhex: hey
<directhex>_james_w,_can you_forward me the monodevelop-debugger-gdb reject mail? it's_simply not_on the ubuntu-archive archive
<james_w> the reject_mail is just the_autogenerated_one
<james_w> I haven't received an explanation_mail
<directhex