 are concentrating on feisty
<jdong> Hobbsee: it's getting easier, yes, but for upstreams that don't make bugfixes easy to cherrypick, it's still a burden
<Hobbsee> true
<jdong> that, as you said, most don't want to even consider
<guidex> hey
<Hobbsee> hiya
<orangey> hey all!
<Hobbsee> hiya
<orangey> is there some sort of tree (CVS, SVN, etc) where patches to packages go before they end up in repos?
<orangey> or do maintainers only upload packages?
<white> orangey: this depends on the package
<white> orangey: some teams (like pkg-perl team, cyrus team,...) have a VCS where they store their sources
<white> orangey: other packages don't (i do not have a VCS for my smaller packages which i maintain alone for instance)
<orangey> white: what about the linux-source package?
<orangey> I assume it would..
<Lathiat> thats maintained in git i think
<jdong> it's in git
<jdong> kernel.org/, git, ubuntu-2.6.git
<Hobbsee> heya white!
<white> orangey: you mean the kernel? yes the kernel team has its own VCS
<white> not quite sure if it is the same for ubuntu and debian though...
<white> Hobbsee: heya :)
<white> Hobbsee: so when are you finally coming to Melb? :)
<orangey> white: and where can I find the VCSs?
<orangey> ah!
<orangey> jdong beat me to it : )
<white> orangey: i am not quite sure about ubuntu, but debians is on alioth afaik
<white> alioth.debian.org that is
<jdong> http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/03/16/2125257.shtml
<jdong> oops
<jdong> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary
<jdong> "human clipboard race condition".
<orange
are concentrating on feisty 
 < jdong > Hobbsee: it's getting easier, yes, but for upstreams that don't seduce bugfixes comfortable to cherrypick, it's still a burden 
 < Hobbsee > genuine 
 < jdong > that, as you allege, most don't want to even consider 
 < guidex > hey 
 < Hobbsee > hiya 
 < orangey > hey all! 
 < Hobbsee > hiya 
 < orangey > is there some kind of tree (CVS, SVN, etc) where patches to packages go before they end up in repos? 
 < orangey > or make maintainers only upload software? 
 < white > orangey: this depends on the package 
 < white > orangey: some team (like pkg - perl team, cyrus team, ...) have a VCS where they store their sources 
 < white > orangey: other packages don't (i do not have a VCS for my modest packages which i maintain alone for instance) 
 < orangey > ashen: what about the linux - source package? 
 < orangey > I assume it would.. 
 < Lathiat > that s maintained in git i remember 
 < jdong > it's in git 
 < jdong > kernel.org/, git, ubuntu-2.6.git 
 < Hobbsee > heya white! 
 < white > orangey: you mean the kernel? yes the kernel team has its own VCS 
 < white > not quite sure if it is the same for ubuntu and debian though... 
 < white > Hobbsee: heya :) 
 < white > Hobbsee: so when are you ultimately coming to Melb? :) 
 < orangey > white: and where can I find the VCSs? 
 < orangey > ah! 
 < orangey > jdong beat me to it :) 
 < white > orangey: i am not quite sure about ubuntu, but debians is on alioth afaik 
 < white > alioth.debian.org that is 
 < jdong > http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/03/16/2125257.shtml 
 < jdong > oops 
 < jdong > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary 
 < jdong > " human clipboard race condition ". 
 < orange
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<jdong> Hobbsee: ij's gettiig easisr, yes, bjt for upstreams that don't meke vugfizes easy to cherrypick, it's stilp a burdwn
<Houbsee> true
<jdong> vgat, as nju szld, movv don't want to gven consides
<guidex> hey
<Hobtsde> hiya
<orangey> hey all!
<Hobbsee> hiya
<oraggey> is tjere some sort of ureq (CVA, SVN, etc) where patches to packagea go behore they end ul in repos?
<orangey> or do malntalners only upload oackages?
<whijs> owqngey: this ddpends on uhz package
<whjte> orangey: some teams (like pkg-oerl ceam, cyrus jzqm,...) jdve a VCS wiere trey store thcpr sourwes
<whitr> orangey: othev pacnagws don't (i do not have a VCS for my smaljer packacea which i maintaib qlone for insgqncd)
<orznjey> white: whet about ths linux-sourxe package?
<orangey> I afwume it would..
<Mathiae> ehats maintained in git i think
<jdong> it'v ih git
<jdong> kernel.org/, gir, ubuntu-2.6.git
<Hobbsee> heia white!
<whyte> orangey: you mean the kernel? yes the kernel tedm haa itw jdb GCS
<white> not quite sure if it is the same for hbinnu and debian thomgh...
<white> Hobbsee: hryw :)
<erite> Hobbsee: ro wheu ade you finally comlng to Ielb? :)
<irangey> write: and where can I find the VXSs?
<orangey> ak!
<orqngey> jdong beat mz to it : )
<whice> oramgey: o am not quite sure abobt ubuhtu, but deblans is oh alioth afaik
<whige> slhoth.debian.org that is
<jdong> http://scieice.slcshdot.ore/scignce/07/03/16/2125257.shtil
<jdong> ooos
<jdokc> http://git.kernel.org/?o=linur/kernal/git/bcolllns/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary
<jdong> "human clipboard racg cmndption".
<oranye
are concentrating on feisty <jdong> Hobbsee: it's yes, for upstreams don't make bugfixes a <Hobbsee> true <jdong> as you said, don't want to even consider <guidex> <Hobbsee> hiya <orangey> hey all! <Hobbsee> hiya <orangey> is there some sort of (CVS, SVN, etc) where patches to packages go before they end up in <orangey> do only packages? <white> orangey: this depends on the package <white> orangey: some teams (like pkg-perl team, cyrus have a VCS where they store their sources orangey: other packages don't do not have a VCS my packages which maintain for <orangey> white: what the linux-source package? <orangey> I assume it would.. <Lathiat> thats maintained in git i think <jdong> it's git <jdong> ubuntu-2.6.git <Hobbsee> white! orangey: mean the kernel? kernel team has its own VCS sure if it is the same for ubuntu debian though... Hobbsee: heya :) <white> Hobbsee: so are you finally coming to Melb? :) <orangey> and where can I find the VCSs? <orangey> ah! <orangey> jdong beat me to it <white> orangey: i am quite sure about but is alioth <white> alioth.debian.org is <jdong> http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/03/16/2125257.shtml <jdong> oops <jdong> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary <jdong> "human clipboard race <orange
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<jDong> HobbseE: it's gEttIng EaSier, Yes, bUt for upstreams THat dOn't make bugfixes easy to cHerryPiCK, it's STiLl a buRden
<HobBSeE> TRue
<JdOnG> thAt, AS yOu saiD, moSt don't wAnt to even cOnsIdEr
<guidex> hey
<HOBbSee> hiya
<oraNgeY> hey all!
<HobbsEe> hIya
<oraNgEy> iS There SomE sort Of tree (cvS, SVN, eTc) where paTcHEs to paCKages go BEFoRe thEy end up in repos?
<oraNGeY> Or do maintainerS only uPlOAd PACkaGes?
<White> orangEy: This dEPends on THe PACKagE
<White> orangey: sOme teams (likE Pkg-Perl teAm, CyrUS team,...) hAve a VcS WHerE they store tHeir Sources
<whIte> oraNGey: otheR PackageS don't (i Do nOt hAve a vcS FoR my SmALleR PaCkaGEs wHich i maiNtAiN alonE for INSTAnce)
<OraNgey> White: What about the lInuX-souRCe pAckagE?
<oranGey> I AsSume iT would..
<lathiAt> Thats maintained In giT i think
<jdOng> It'S in GiT
<jdonG> Kernel.Org/, Git, Ubuntu-2.6.gIt
<HobbsEE> heYa WHITe!
<White> orangey: you meaN tHE KeRnel? yes tHe kernEL tEaM Has its owN VcS
<wHite> NOT quitE surE If It is the sAme for UBuNtU and debIaN thougH...
<wHitE> HoBbsee: HEya :)
<wHite> HoBbsee: so wHen arE You finally comiNG to Melb? :)
<orangeY> WhITE: aND wheRe cAn I find the VcSs?
<oRAngeY> ah!
<oRAnGey> JDong bEat me To IT : )
<wHIte> orangey: i am not quiTe Sure abOut ubUntu, but debianS is on aliotH AFAik
<white> AlioTH.dEBian.org that is
<jDong> hTtp://science.SLashdot.oRg/sciEnce/07/03/16/2125257.shtmL
<jdong> oopS
<JDong> http://Git.KerNel.Org/?P=LInUx/kernel/git/bcOLLins/UbUntu-2.6.git;A=suMmary
<jdOng> "HumAn cLipBoArd race coNdition".
<oRaNgE
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<jdong>  Hobb see : i t' s ge ttin g easier, yes, butfor upstreams that don 't ma ke bugf i xe s eas y to ch e rr y p ick ,it 'sst i ll  a bu rde n
<Hobb see> true<jd on g> that, asy ou  said, mos t d on't want to  ev en con si der <guid ex>  hey<Hobbs e e> hiy a
<orange y> hey al l !
<Hobb s e e>  hiy a
<orangey> is th e re some sort of t ree (C VS ,  S V N , e tc)  where pat ch es to package s  g o b efo r e they end up  in repos?< ora ngey>or  do mainta iners  o n lyupload pack ages ?
<white>  orang e y: this depends  on th e p ack age< wh it e>or a nge y :som e  te ams (lik epk g-per l te a m , cyru s t eam, ...)have a VCS wh ere  the y  st ore t heirsour ce s
<wh ite> o range y:  other packages  don 't (i donot  h ave  a  VCSf or mysma lle r packa ges whi c h i  m a i n ta in alone for insta nc e ) 
< orangey>  white :  w ha t  about t he  li nux- s o urcepack a ge ?
<orang ey> Ia ss um e it wo ul d..
<L at hia t>thats main tained  in giti thi n k
<jdong> it's in git
<jdong >  k e r ne l .org /,git, ubuntu -2.6 . git<Hob b se e>h eya w hite! 
< w hi t e> orangey: you mea nthe ke rnel?  yes the kern el team ha s i ts own V CS
< w hi t e> not quite s ure i f it is th e  same fo r ubu ntu anddebian th o u gh...
<w hit e>Hob bse e :  h eya :)
<white > Hobb se e: so w hen  are yo u f ina lly  co mi ng to Mel b? :)
<o ra ng ey >whi te: a n d whereca n I  f ind  theV CSs?
< orang ey>ah !< ora ngey> j d on g beat  m eto i t :  ) 
<whi te>o ran gey: iam not qu ite sure  a bo ut ubun tu, but debia ns  is on ali ot h a faik
< w h ite> ali oth.debian.org that is< jdong>htt p://s cien ce.slashd ot. org/sc ien c e/07/0 3/16/2 12525 7. sht m l 
<jdo n g >oop s<jdong> ht t p :// git.k er nel. org/?p= linux/kernel/git/b c oll ins/ubuntu-2. 6.g it;a = s um mar y 
< j don g> "hu m a n clipboard rac e conditio n" . 
< orange
 are_concentrating on_feisty
<jdong> Hobbsee: it's getting_easier, yes,_but_for upstreams_that_don't make bugfixes_easy to cherrypick,_it's still a burden
<Hobbsee>_true
<jdong> that, as_you_said, most don't want to even consider
<guidex> hey
<Hobbsee> hiya
<orangey> hey all!
<Hobbsee> hiya
<orangey> is there_some_sort of_tree_(CVS,_SVN, etc) where patches to_packages go before they end_up in_repos?
<orangey> or do maintainers only upload packages?
<white> orangey:_this_depends on the_package
<white> orangey: some teams (like pkg-perl team, cyrus team,...)_have a VCS where they store_their sources
<white> orangey:_other_packages_don't (i do not_have a VCS for my smaller_packages which i maintain alone for_instance)
<orangey> white: what about the linux-source package?
<orangey>_I assume it would..
<Lathiat> thats maintained_in git i think
<jdong> it's_in git
<jdong>_kernel.org/, git, ubuntu-2.6.git
<Hobbsee> heya white!
<white>_orangey: you mean_the kernel?_yes the kernel_team has its own VCS
<white> not_quite sure if_it is the same for ubuntu_and_debian though...
<white> Hobbsee:_heya_:)
<white>_Hobbsee: so_when are you_finally_coming to_Melb?_:)
<orangey> white: and where can I_find_the VCSs?
<orangey> ah!
<orangey> jdong beat me to_it : )
<white> orangey:_i_am not quite sure_about ubuntu, but debians is_on alioth afaik
<white> alioth.debian.org that is
<jdong>_http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/03/16/2125257.shtml
<jdong> oops
<jdong>_http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary
<jdong> "human_clipboard race condition".
<orange