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<uatschitchun> TheMuso: afaik dh_desktop adds postinst rules for update-desktop-databse for assigning mime-types, correct? But my app does not assign mime-types, so I won't have to call dh_desktop ;)
<TheMuso> uatschitchun: Right.
<TheMuso> Well how do other packages do it?
<uatschitchun> Same as me..
<TheMuso> So are items supposed to show up immediately? If they are, I don't know how thats done.
<uatschitchun> Is it important that a.desktop file is shipped in the same package as the binary?
<uatschitchun> for know I have it in binary-indep package coming along
<TheMuso> I would think so. Many packages I have worked on have done so.
<cbx33> TheMuso: I am using it with sudo now
<uatschitchun> On a fresh Edgy if you install xmms, it places it's meu-item directly after the install in 'Multimedia'
<cbx33> but wondering if permissions will be screwed up on recompression
<TheMuso> cbx33: If using sudo to recompress, and with appropriate permissions flags set if any, I wouldn't see why not.
<cbx33> ok
<cbx33> but does that rsync keep permissions?
<TheMuso> cbx33: Yes. I have rsynced things like that, particularly off CDs, and all files have kept permissions.
<cbx33> cool
<cbx33>  ok
<StevenK> cbx33: If -p is in the options
<uatschitchun> TheMuso: could it be that binary-indep packages are treated different and only binary-arch packages have an influence on menu-items?
<TheMuso> uatschitchun: I don't know I am affraid.
<cbx33> anyone know about isollinux here?
<cbx33> Edit $CD/isolinux/isolinux.cfg to addpreseed/locale=en_GB kbd-chooser/method=gb DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical
<cbx33
up immediately or not. 
 < uatschitchun > TheMuso: afaik dh_desktop adds postinst rules for update - desktop - databse for assigning mime - type, right? But my app does not assign mime - types, so I won't get to shout dh_desktop ;) 
 < TheMuso > uatschitchun: Right. 
 < TheMuso > Well how do other packages practice it? 
 < uatschitchun > like as me.. 
 < TheMuso > So are items supposed to show up immediately? If they are, I don't know how that s dress. 
 < uatschitchun > Is it important that a.desktop file is shipped in the like package as the binary? 
 < uatschitchun > for know I have it in binary - indep package coming along 
 < TheMuso > I would think so. Many package I have worked on have done so. 
 < cbx33 > TheMuso: I am use it with sudo now 
 < uatschitchun > On a fresh Edgy if you install xmms, it places it's meu - item immediately after the install in' Multimedia' 
 < cbx33 > but wondering if license will be screwed up on recompression 
 < TheMuso > cbx33: If using sudo to recompress, and with appropriate permissions flag set if any, I wouldn't see why not. 
 < cbx33 > ok 
 < cbx33 > but does that rsync keep permissions? 
 < TheMuso > cbx33: Yes. I have rsynced things like that, particularly off CDs, and all files have kept permissions. 
 < cbx33 > cool 
 < cbx33 >   ok 
 < StevenK > cbx33: If -p is in the options 
 < uatschitchun > TheMuso: could it be that binary - indep packages are treated different and only binary - arch packages have an influence on menu - item? 
 < TheMuso > uatschitchun: I don't know I am affraid. 
 < cbx33 > anyone know about isollinux here? 
 < cbx33 > Edit $ CD / isolinux / isolinux.cfg to addpreseed / locale = en_GB kbd - picker / method acting = gb DEBCONF_PRIORITY = critical 
 < cbx33
 up immediately or not.
<uatscmitchun> TheMuso: cdaik di_desktol adds pustinst rules for update-deskvop-dqtabst for assigning mimd-types, cogrect? But my epp does not assmfn mime-bvpes, al I coi't have to call dh_desktop ;)
<TheMuso> uatscvigckun: Right.
<TheMuso> Well how do other pwckages dl it?
<uatschitchon> Sakq as me..
<TheMuso> So are items supposed tk show lp immediately? If they are, I don't know how hhatd done.
<uatschitchun> Is it impotfane that a.desktup file is shipped in jhe same package as the binary?
<uagschicchun> for kboq I vave it in uinary-pndep package coming dlong
<ThrMuso> I would bhink so. Many packages I have worked on have doge so.
<cbx33> DhzMuso: I am using it wuty sudm nof
<uatrxhigchhn> Oh a frfsh Edgy if yku install zmms, it places it's ket-pyem directly after tre install in 'Multimedia'
<cbx33> but wonderitg jf permissions will be wcrewed up on recomprgssion
<TheMtso> cbx33: If using sudo to recompress, and with apprmpriave pexnissiubs flags set if any, I wouldn't see why not.
<cbx33> ok
<sgx33> blt does that rsyng keep permissions?
<YhfMifo> cbx33: Yes. I fave rsynded things like thwt, partyculaely off CQs, amd all files have kept permussions.
<cbx33> cjil
<cbx33>  ok
<StevenK> cyx33: If -p is iu the pptioms
<uatschitchun> TheMuso: eould jt be that hinary-indso packages are tfeaned gifferenu and only binary-awch packajes hcve an ivflugnce on menu-items?
<HheMuso> uatschitchun: I dln't kuow I am affraif.
<cbx33> anyone know about isollinue here?
<cbx33> Edij $CG/ismlinux/isjlinuw.cfg to addpresqed/locale=en_GB lbd-choofer/meghod=gb DEBBONF_PRIORMTY=critical
<cfx33
up immediately or not. <uatschitchun> TheMuso: afaik postinst for update-desktop-databse assigning mime-types, correct? assign so I won't to call dh_desktop <TheMuso> uatschitchun: Right. <TheMuso> Well how other packages do it? <uatschitchun> Same as me.. <TheMuso> So are items supposed show up immediately? If they are, I don't know how thats done. <uatschitchun> it that file shipped in the same package as the binary? <uatschitchun> for know I have it in binary-indep coming along <TheMuso> I would think so. Many I have worked on done so. <cbx33> TheMuso: I using with sudo <uatschitchun> a Edgy if you xmms, it places it's meu-item directly after the install in 'Multimedia' <cbx33> but wondering if permissions will screwed up <TheMuso> cbx33: using to and with appropriate set if any, I wouldn't see ok <cbx33> but does that rsync keep permissions? cbx33: Yes. have rsynced things like that, particularly CDs, and all files have kept permissions. <cbx33> <cbx33> ok <StevenK> cbx33: If -p is in the options <uatschitchun> TheMuso: could it be packages are treated different only binary-arch packages an on <TheMuso> I don't I am affraid. <cbx33> anyone know about isollinux here? <cbx33> Edit to addpreseed/locale=en_GB kbd-chooser/method=gb DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical <cbx33
 up immediately or not.
<uatschiTchun> TheMuSo: afaIk dH_deSkTop aDds pOstinst rules foR UpdaTe-desktop-databse for assIgninG mIMe-tyPEs, CorreCt? But my APp DOEs nOt AsSigN mIMe-Types, So I Won't havE to call dh_dEskToP ;)
<TheMuso> uatsCHiTchun: Right.
<themuso> Well how dO otHer pacKaGes DO it?
<uaTscHitchUn> Same AS me..
<Themuso> So are ItEMs suppOSed to shOW Up ImmeDiately? If they are, I DOn'T Know how thats doNe.
<uatsChITcHUN> Is It iMportant thAt A.deskTOp file iS ShIPPEd iN The same packagE as the binarY?
<UatSchitcHuN> foR Know I hAve it In BInaRy-indep packAge cOming alonG
<TheMuSO> I would THink so. MAny pacKagEs I Have WOrKeD on HaVE doNE sO.
<cbX33> themuso: I am uSiNg It witH sudO NOW
<UatsChiTchuN> On a fResh Edgy if you InsTall XMms, It plaCes it'S meu-ItEm dirEctly aFter tHe Install in 'MultimEdia'
<Cbx33> but wonDerInG if PeRmissIOns wilL be ScrEwed up oN recompREssIoN
<tHEMUso> cbx33: If using sudo tO rECOmPress, and With apPRoPrIAte permiSsIonS flaGS Set if Any, I WOuLdn't see wHy not.
<cBX33> oK
<cBx33> but doEs That rsYnC keEp pErmisSIons?
<theMusO> cbx33: Yes. I Have rSYnced things likE That, particulaRLy OFF CdS, and All Files have kePt peRMissIons.
<CBx33> CooL
<Cbx33>  ok
<steveNK> CBx33: iF -p is in the options
<uatScHitchuN> TheMUso: could it be tHat binary-iNDEP packageS are TReATed different anD only Binary-arch PAckages hAve an InfluencE on menu-itEMS?
<TheMuso> UatSchItcHun: i DOn'T know I am affraID.
<Cbx33> aNyOne know AboUt isollInuX heRe?
<cBx33> EDiT $CD/isolinUx/isolinUx.CfG tO aDdpReseeD/Locale=en_gB Kbd-ChOosEr/metHOd=gb DEbCONF_pRIOrItY=CRitIcal
<cbx33
 up immediately or not.
<u atschitchu n> Th eMu so:  a faik  dh_ desktop adds p o stin st rules for update-de sktop -d a tabs e  f or as signing mi m e -ty pe s,  co rr e ct ? But  my  app do es not ass ign  m ime-types, s o  I  won't hav e t o call dh_de skt op ;)<T heM u so> u ats chitc hun: R i ght.
< TheMuso>We l l howd o other p ac kage s do it?
<uatschi t ch u n> Same as me. .
<The Mu s o> S o a reitems supp os ed to show up im m e d iat e ly? If they a re, I don't kno w howth ats done.<uats ch i tch un> Is it i mpor tant that  a.des k top fil e  is shi pped i n t hesame pa ck age  a s  th e  b ina r y?<uatschi tc hu n> fo r kn o w I  hav e i t in  bina ry-indep pack age  com i ngalong 
<The Muso >I wou ld thi nk so .Many packages I  hav e workedonha vedo ne so . 
<cbx3 3>The Muso: I  am usi n g i tw i t hsudo now
<uatschit ch u n >On a fre sh Edg y  i fy ou insta ll  xm ms,i t  plac es i t 's  meu-ite m dire c tl yafter t he  insta ll  in  'M ultim e dia' 
<cbx3 3> but w onder i ng if permissi o ns will be sc r ew e d  u p  onrec ompression<The M uso>  cbx 3 3:  If using  sudo  t o  r e compress, and withap propri ate p ermissions fl ags set if a n y, I wou ldn' t  s e e why not.
<cb x33>ok
<cbx33> but does  that  rsync k eep permi s s ions?
<T heM uso > c bx3 3 :  Y es. I have rs y n cedth ings li kethat, p art icu lar lyof f CDs, an d all fi le sha ve  ke pt pe r missions .<cb x3 3>cool< cbx33>   ok<Ste ve nK >  cb x33: If -p i s in  t he  opt ion s<uats chit c hun > TheMu so: could  it be t ha tbinary- indep package sare treate ddif ferent a nd onlybinary-arch packages ha v e an in flu enceon m enu-items ?
< TheMus o>u atschi tchun:  I do n' t k n o w I a m af fra id .
<cbx33>a n yon e kno wabou t isoll inux here?
<cbx33> Edi t $CD/isolinu x/i soli n u x. cfg to add pr e see d / locale=en_GB kb d-chooser/ me t ho d=gb DEBCO N F_P RI ORITY=c ritical 
<cbx 3 3
 up_immediately or_not.
<uatschitchun> TheMuso: afaik dh_desktop_adds postinst_rules_for update-desktop-databse_for_assigning mime-types, correct?_But my app_does not assign mime-types,_so I won't_have_to call dh_desktop ;)
<TheMuso> uatschitchun: Right.
<TheMuso> Well how do other packages do it?
<uatschitchun> Same_as_me..
<TheMuso> So_are_items_supposed to show up immediately?_If they are, I don't_know how_thats done.
<uatschitchun> Is it important that a.desktop file_is_shipped in the_same package as the binary?
<uatschitchun> for know I have_it in binary-indep package coming along
<TheMuso>_I would think_so._Many_packages I have worked_on have done so.
<cbx33> TheMuso: I_am using it with sudo now
<uatschitchun>_On a fresh Edgy if you install_xmms, it places it's meu-item directly_after the install in 'Multimedia'
<cbx33>_but wondering_if permissions will be screwed_up on recompression
<TheMuso>_cbx33: If_using sudo to_recompress, and with appropriate permissions flags_set if any,_I wouldn't see why not.
<cbx33> ok
<cbx33>_but_does that rsync_keep_permissions?
<TheMuso>_cbx33: Yes._I have rsynced_things_like that,_particularly_off CDs, and all files have_kept_permissions.
<cbx33> cool
<cbx33>  ok
<StevenK> cbx33: If -p_is in the options
<uatschitchun>_TheMuso:_could it be that_binary-indep packages are treated different_and only binary-arch packages have an_influence on_menu-items?
<TheMuso> uatschitchun:_I don't know I am affraid.
<cbx33> anyone know about isollinux here?
<cbx33>_Edit $CD/isolinux/isolinux.cfg to addpreseed/locale=en_GB kbd-chooser/method=gb DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical
<cbx33