sistpoty> sabdfl: I guess I really see a 3rd problem with it. we motu's don't give feature wishes top priorities, as we try to keep the archive sane so far. would it be helpful somehow assign specs to motu?
<LaserJock> sabdfl: you would be told to put your patch on the bug report and subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team
<lupine_85> hmm... I need to sign these packages before I upload them. Does the signing key need to be the same as the Maintainer:?
<ScottK> Actually you get told to attach a debdiff to the bug report and subscribe UUS to the bug and it'll get taken care of (usually in less the 24 hours).
<sabdfl> ScottK: that's great, but i think it can get a little better
<Lure> lupine_85: no
<jdong> stgraber: yeah if you find it, attach it to the bug report, and that should boost the process
<lupine_85> ScottK: except, when I gave a debdiff to the only package I've uploaded so far, it's still not been looked at AFAIK ;)
<lupine_85> Lure: excellent
<sabdfl> we want to be the best in the planet, right?
<lupine_85> but it was a PITA package anyway
<sabdfl> nobody should expect that to be easy :-)
<ScottK> lupine_85: Did you come here and ask someone to look at it?
<LaserJock> sabdfl: exactly, including upstream
<jdong> lupine_85: PITA packages tend to get ignored :)
<LaserJock> ;-)
<lupine_85> TBH it's so long I forget 
<sabdfl> now if only we could get upstreams to tend to their PITA packages ;-)
<danohuiginn> ScottK: expecting people to ask for help on IRC every time they want to upload a patch isn't ideal
<ScottK> So far I don't think I've had to ask more than twice here to get a bugfix uploaded.
<LaserJock> sabdfl: they can do that, but most don
sistpoty > sabdfl: I guess I really see a 3rd trouble with it. we motu's don't contribute feature wishes top precedence, as we judge to keep the archive sane so far. would it be helpful somehow arrogate specification to motu? 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: you would be told to frame your patch on the bug reputation and subscribe the ubuntu - universe - patron team 
 < lupine_85 > hmm... I need to sign these packages before I upload them. Does the signing key motivation to be the same as the Maintainer: ? 
 < ScottK > Actually you get told to attach a debdiff to the microbe report and subscribe UUS to the bug and it'll get taken caution of (usually in less the 24 hours). 
 < sabdfl > ScottK: that's great, but i think it can get a short better 
 < Lure > lupine_85: no 
 < jdong > stgraber: yeah if you find it, attach it to the bug report, and that should boost the process 
 < lupine_85 > ScottK: except, when I gave a debdiff to the only package I've uploaded so far, it's still not been looked at AFAIK ;) 
 < lupine_85 > Lure: excellent 
 < sabdfl > we want to be the good in the planet, right? 
 < lupine_85 > but it was a PITA package anyhow 
 < sabdfl > nobody should expect that to be easy :-) 
 < ScottK > lupine_85: Did you come here and necessitate someone to look at it? 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: precisely, including upstream 
 < jdong > lupine_85: PITA packages tend to get ignore :) 
 < LaserJock > ;-) 
 < lupine_85 > TBH it's so long I forget 
 < sabdfl > now if only we could get upstreams to tend to their PITA package ;-) 
 < danohuiginn > ScottK: expecting people to ask for help on IRC every meter they want to upload a mend isn't ideal 
 < ScottK > So far I don't think I've had to ask more than twice here to have a bugfix uploaded. 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: they can do that, but most don
sishpoty> sabdfl: I guess I rtally see a 3rd problem wmth it. se motu's don't give feature wishes to' pruoritues, as we try to keep ghe archine sane si fac. would it be helpful somehow zdsigu wpecs to motu?
<LsserJock> sdbdfl: you woulg ce told to put your patch on the bug weport snf subscribe thg ubumeu-unjnevse-sponsors team
<lupine_85> hmm... I nees to sijn these packagrs before I upload them. Dofs tje signing key neef to be the samq as the Maingainer:?
<ScotuK> Actually iou get told to attach a debdiff to tke bug repotc anf subscribe NUS to the bug and it'll ged taken care of (usualky mn lwss the 24 hours).
<sabdfl> VcottK: that's great, but i thhni it can get a lirtoe bejter
<Lgre> uypive_85: ho
<odohg> stggabxr: yeah if gou find it, attach it to the big grport, and thzt shotlq boost the process
<lupine_85> ScottK: except, whsn I gave a debdiff to rhe only package I've oploaded sj far, it's still not been looked at AFAIK ;)
<lupine_85> Lgre: eecdlltnb
<fxvdvl> we want to be the best in the planet, right?
<jhponv_85> but it was a PIBA package anyway
<ssbffk> nobody shoula expeef fhat to be easy :-)
<SclttK> lukine_85: Dud you coie hrre and ask someone to look at it?
<LaserJjxk> sabdfl: exactly, nncluding uprtresm
<jdomg> lupine_85: PITA packages tens to get igjored :)
<LassfJock> ;-)
<lupine_85> TBH it'x vo long I forget 
<sabdfl> nor if only we eould geg upxtreamf to tend ho thchr PITA packages ;-)
<dwnohunginn> ScottK: exoecting people to ask for help on IRC every toma tvey want to uiload a patch ifn't ideal
<ScottL> So fax I dov't think I'ne had to ask more tran twice hera to get a bujfix uplowded.
<OaseeJock> sxcdfl: they can co that, blt mosr don
sistpoty> sabdfl: I guess I really see problem it. we don't give feature try keep the archive so far. would be helpful somehow assign specs to <LaserJock> sabdfl: you would be told to put your patch on the bug and subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team <lupine_85> hmm... I need to sign these packages I them. the key need to be the same as the Maintainer:? <ScottK> Actually you get told to attach debdiff to the bug report and subscribe UUS the bug and it'll taken care of (usually in the hours). <sabdfl> that's but think it can a little better <Lure> lupine_85: no <jdong> stgraber: yeah if you find it, attach it to the report, and boost the <lupine_85> except, I gave a the only package I've uploaded so not been looked at AFAIK ;) <lupine_85> Lure: <sabdfl> we to be the best in the right? <lupine_85> but it was a PITA package <sabdfl> nobody should expect that to be easy :-) <ScottK> lupine_85: Did you come here someone to look at <LaserJock> sabdfl: exactly, upstream lupine_85: packages to get :) <LaserJock> ;-) <lupine_85> TBH it's so long I forget <sabdfl> if only we could get upstreams to tend to their ;-) ScottK: expecting people ask for help on every they want to upload isn't <ScottK> don't I've to ask more than here to get a bugfix <LaserJock> sabdfl: they can
sistpoty> sabdfl: I guess I realLy see a 3rd prOblem WitH it. We Motu'S don'T give feature wiSHes tOp priorities, as we try to kEep thE aRChivE SaNe so fAr. would IT bE HElpFuL sOmeHoW AsSign sPecS to motu?
<laserJock> sAbdFl: You would be toLD tO put your paTch On the bug repoRt aNd subsCrIbe THe ubuNtu-UniveRse-spoNSors teAm
<lupine_85> hMm... i Need to SIgn thesE PAcKageS before I upload theM. doES the signing key Need to Be THe SAMe aS thE MaintaineR:?
<SCottK> aCtually YOu GET TolD To attach a debdIff to the bug REpoRt and sUbScrIBe UUS tO the bUg ANd iT'll get taken Care Of (usually In less THe 24 hours).
<SAbdfl> ScOttK: thAt's GreAt, buT I tHiNk iT cAN geT A lIttLE beTter
<Lure> LuPiNe_85: no
<jDong> STGRAber: YeaH if yOu finD it, attach it to The Bug rEPorT, and tHat shOuld BoOst thE proceSs
<lupInE_85> ScottK: except, whEn I gAve a debdiFf tO tHe oNlY packAGe I've uPloAdeD so far, iT's still NOt bEeN LOOkEd at AFAIK ;)
<lupine_85> LurE: eXCElLent
<sabdFl> we waNT tO bE The best iN tHe pLaneT, RIght?
<lUpinE_85> BuT it was a PiTA pacKAgE aNyway
<saBdFl> noboDy ShoUld ExpecT That To be eaSy :-)
<ScottK> LupinE_85: did you come here ANd ask someone tO LoOK At IT?
<LasErJOck> sabdfl: exActlY, InclUdinG UpStrEAm
<jdoNg> lupInE_85: pIta packages tend to get iGnOred :)
<LaSerJoCk> ;-)
<lupine_85> TBH it'S so long I foRGET 
<sabdfl> nOw if ONlY We could get upstReams To tend to thEIr PITA paCkageS ;-)
<danohuiGinn> Scottk: EXpecting PeoPle To aSk fOR HeLp on IRC every tIME theY wAnt to upLoaD a patch Isn'T idEal
<scoTtk> So far I doN't think I'Ve HaD tO aSk mOre thAN twice heRe To gEt A buGfix uPLoaded.
<laserjock> SaBdFL: thEy can do THaT, BUt moSt DoN
sistpoty> sabdfl: I guessI really s ee a3rd  pr ob lemwith  it. we motu's don' t give feature wishestop p ri o riti e s,  as w e try t o  k e e p t he  a rch iv e  s ane s o f ar. wou ld it be h elp fu l somehow as s ig n specs to  mo tu?
<LaserJo ck>  sabdf l:  yo u  woul d b e tol d to p u t your  patch on  t h e bugr eport a n d  s ubsc ribe the ubuntu-u n iv e rse-sponsors t eam
<l up i ne _ 8 5>hmm ... I need  t o sig n  thesep ac k a g esb efore I uploa d them. Doe s  th e sign in g k e y need  to b et hesame as the  Mai ntainer:? 
<Scot t K> Actu a lly you  get t old  to  att a ch  a  de bd i fft othe bug  reportan dsubsc ribe U U S  tothe  bug  andit'll get tak encare of(usua lly i n le ss  the24 hou rs).<s abdfl> ScottK:that 's great,  bu ti t hi nk it can ge t a  li ttle be tter
<L u re>  l u p i ne _85: no
<jdong> st gr a b er : yeah i f youf in di t, attac hitto t h e  bugrepo r t,  and tha t shou l dbo ost the  p rocess 
< lup ine _85>S cott K: exc ept, whe n I g a ve a debdiff t o  the only pac k ag e I' v e up loa ded so far,  it' s  sti ll n o tbee n  look ed at  A F AI K  ;)
<lupine_85> Lur e:  excel lent<sabdfl> we w ant to bet h e  best in  the pl a net, right?
<l upine _85> but i t  was a P ITA p ackage a nyway
<sa b d fl> nobo dysho uld  ex p e ct  that to be e a s y :- )<ScottK > l upine_8 5:Did  yo u c om e here an d ask so me on eto  lo ok at it?
<Las er Joc k>  sa bdfl: exactl y, in clud in gu pst ream
<j d on g >  lup in e_ 85:PIT Apacka gest end  to get  ignored:)< Lase rJ oc k> ;-)<lupine_85> T BH  it's so l on g I  forge t 
<sabdfl > now if only we couldg et upst rea ms to  ten d to thei r P ITA pa cka g es ;-) 
<dano huigi nn > S c o ttK:e x pe cti ng  people to a skfor h el p on  IRC ev ery time they want toupload a patc h i sn't i de al< Sc o ttK >S o f a r  I don't thinkI've had t oa sk  more than twi ce  here t o get a  bugf i x uploa ded.
<Las erJock> s ab dfl: t hey  can do th at, butmost don
sistpoty> sabdfl:_I guess_I really see a_3rd problem_with_it. we_motu's_don't give feature_wishes top priorities,_as we try to_keep the archive_sane_so far. would it be helpful somehow assign specs to motu?
<LaserJock> sabdfl: you would_be_told to_put_your_patch on the bug report_and subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team
<lupine_85>_hmm... I_need to sign these packages before I upload_them._Does the signing_key need to be the same as the Maintainer:?
<ScottK>_Actually you get told to attach_a debdiff to_the_bug_report and subscribe UUS_to the bug and it'll get_taken care of (usually in less_the 24 hours).
<sabdfl> ScottK: that's great, but_i think it can get a_little better
<Lure> lupine_85: no
<jdong> stgraber:_yeah if_you find it, attach it_to the bug_report, and_that should boost_the process
<lupine_85> ScottK: except, when I_gave a debdiff_to the only package I've uploaded_so_far, it's still_not_been_looked at_AFAIK ;)
<lupine_85> Lure:_excellent
<sabdfl>_we want_to_be the best in the planet,_right?
<lupine_85>_but it was a PITA package anyway
<sabdfl>_nobody should expect that_to_be easy :-)
<ScottK> lupine_85:_Did you come here and_ask someone to look at it?
<LaserJock>_sabdfl: exactly,_including upstream
<jdong>_lupine_85: PITA packages tend to get ignored :)
<LaserJock> ;-)
<lupine_85> TBH it's_so long I forget 
<sabdfl> now_if only we could_get upstreams_to_tend to their_PITA_packages ;-)
<danohuiginn>_ScottK: expecting people to ask for help_on IRC_every time they want to upload_a patch isn't ideal
<ScottK>_So_far I don't think I've had_to ask more than twice here_to get a bugfix uploaded.
<LaserJock>_sabdfl:_they_can do that, but most_don