aker: Sorry, multitasking, but still firing it up
<daker> ok
<niemeyer> daker: Works!
<niemeyer> Sweet
<daker> whooo :D
<niemeyer> daker: We need a way to communicate values such as username/pass to the admin
<niemeyer> daker: For the time being, it may be worth putting these instructions in the description
<daker> yes
<hazmat> niemeyer, alternatively those could be default values for settings, although we would need a corresponding admin cli way of inspecting those
<niemeyer> hazmat: Oh, that sounds much better
<niemeyer> hazmat: We certainly need a way of inspecting the configuration either way
<niemeyer> hazmat: We can have a default type of value which is automatically generated if unset
<niemeyer> This would avoid everyone having the same password by default
<hazmat> niemeyer, that sounds nice as well
<_mup_> Bug #797241 was filed: Ensemble cli subcommand for inspecting config-settings <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797241 >
<_mup_> Bug #797243 was filed: A service config field schema that allows for a  random default value <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797243 >
<niemeyer> hazmat: Thanks for filing these
<hazmat> niemeyer, np. 
<hazmat> niemeyer, out of curiosity have you had any stability issues on natty?
<niemeyer> hazmat: Yes.. I have had to kill compiz every few days
<hazmat> niemeyer, thanks good to know for comparison.. my uptime is averaging about 6-8hrs, even reverted to classic, but still getting random freezes.. just ordered a new laptop hopefully it can help out
<niemeyer> hazmat: Holy crap
<niemeyer> hazmat: 6/8h is on the low side indeed
<hazmat> niemeyer, yeah.. its quite disruptive, it was better during the beta cycle
<niemeyer> hazmat: What kind of issue you notice?
<hazmat> niemeyer, mostly
aker: Sorry, multitasking, but still firing it up 
 < daker > ok 
 < niemeyer > daker: Works! 
 < niemeyer > Sweet 
 < daker > whooo :D 
 < niemeyer > daker: We need a direction to convey values such as username / pass to the admin 
 < niemeyer > daker: For the time being, it may be deserving putting these instructions in the description 
 < daker > yes 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, alternatively those could be default value for settings, although we would need a comparable admin command line interface way of inspecting those 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: Oh, that sound much better 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: We certainly necessitate a way of inspecting the configuration either way 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: We can have a nonpayment type of value which is automatically generated if unset 
 < niemeyer > This would invalidate everyone having the same password by default 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, that sound nice as well 
 < _ mup _ > Bug # 797241 was filed: Ensemble cli subcommand for audit config - settings < Ensemble: New > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797241 > 
 < _ mup _ > Bug # 797243 was filed: A service config field schema that allows for a   random default value < Ensemble: New > < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797243 > 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: Thanks for filing these 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, np. 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, out of curiosity have you had any stability issues on natty? 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: Yes.. I have had to kill compiz every few days 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, thanks full to know for comparison.. my uptime is averaging approximately 6 - 8hrs, even revert to classic, but even getting random freezes.. barely ordered a new laptop hopefully it can help out 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: Holy crap 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: 6/8h is on the low slope indeed 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, yeah.. its quite disruptive, it was better during the beta cycle 
 < niemeyer > hazmat: What kind of issue you notice? 
 < hazmat > niemeyer, mostly
akeg: Sorry, multitasking, but still firing ij yp
<dakec> ok
<niejeyer> dayer: Works!
<niemeyer> Sweet
<daker> wyooo :E
<niemeyer> daker: We neea a way tl communucatt values such as naername/icss tk the edmin
<niemeyer> dsker: For tve time being, ht mcy be worth putting these instructiogs in tne description
<daher> jef
<hazjat> niemeyer, alternatively those ckuld be default valurs for settings, although wf wokld need a corresplnding admib cly way of inspdcting those
<niemeyer> hzzmat: Oh, that sounds much bettef
<niemzyer> hazmat: Ww cfttainly need a waj of inspectikb the wonfigutation either eay
<iiemwyer> hazmat: We can hate a default type of value whhck is automatically gebeeated if gnseg
<bieoeytr> Vhia woulf atoid everyohe having tye same password by dqdault
<hazmat> njemeyew, ehat sounds nice as well
<_mup_> Bug #797241 was fined: Ensemble cli subcommane for inspecting conflg-settingf <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797241 >
<_mup_> Bug #797243 was filev: X strylce zinvig field schema that allows for a  random deszukt value <Ensemblc:New> < https://launchpsd.jey/fugs/797243 >
<niemeyer> hazmac: Tganks for filing tjese
<haziat> nuemeyer, nk. 
<hazkat> niemeyer, out of curiosiry have you kad any stability issbes on natty?
<uiemeygr> hazkat: Yes.. I have had to knll cojpiz every vew days
<hzxmat> niemeyer, thxnkx cood to know for comparisog.. my uptine ix averaeing about 6-8hrs, even geverbad to classic, but dtill gatting ranfom freezes.. just ordered a new laptop hopefulky it can hel' out
<nlemeyer> hazmat: Roly crap
<niemeier> hazmac: 6/8h is on the los side mndeed
<hazmat> niemeyer, yeav.. its quite dmsruptive, it qas vetter ajring the beta cycle
<niemeyer> hazmqt: What kind of isxue gou notice?
<hazmac> biemeyer, mostly
aker: Sorry, multitasking, but still firing it ok daker: Works! Sweet <daker> whooo a to communicate values as username/pass to admin <niemeyer> daker: For the time it may be worth putting these instructions in the description <daker> yes <hazmat> alternatively those could be default values for settings, although we would need a admin way inspecting <niemeyer> hazmat: Oh, that sounds much better <niemeyer> hazmat: We certainly need a way of inspecting configuration either way <niemeyer> hazmat: We can have default type of value is automatically generated if unset This avoid everyone the password default <hazmat> niemeyer, sounds nice as well <_mup_> Bug #797241 was filed: Ensemble cli subcommand for inspecting config-settings <Ensemble:New> < > <_mup_> was filed: service field that allows for default value <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/797243 > for filing these <hazmat> niemeyer, np. <hazmat> niemeyer, of curiosity you had any stability issues on <niemeyer> hazmat: Yes.. I have had to kill every few days <hazmat> niemeyer, thanks good to know for comparison.. my uptime is averaging even reverted to classic, still getting random just a laptop it can out <niemeyer> hazmat: Holy crap <niemeyer> hazmat: 6/8h is on the side indeed <hazmat> niemeyer, yeah.. its quite disruptive, it was the cycle <niemeyer> hazmat: kind of issue you <hazmat> mostly
aker: Sorry, multitasking, but sTill firing It up
<dAkeR> ok
<NiEmeyEr> daKer: Works!
<niemeyER> SweEt
<daker> whooo :D
<niemeyer> dAker: WE nEEd a wAY tO commUnicate VAlUES suCh As UseRnAMe/Pass tO thE admin
<nIemeyer> dakEr: FOr The time being, IT mAy be worth pUttIng these instRucTions iN tHe dEScripTioN
<dakeR> yes
<haZMat> nieMeyer, alteRnATively THose couLD Be DefaUlt values for settiNGs, ALthough we would Need a cOrREsPONdiNg aDmin cli way Of InspeCTing thoSE
<nIEMEyeR> Hazmat: Oh, that sOunds much beTTer
<NiemeyEr> HazMAt: We ceRtainLy NEed A way of inspeCtinG the confiGuratiON either WAy
<niemeYer> hazMat: we cAn haVE a DeFauLt TYpe OF vAluE WhiCh is autoMaTiCally GeneRATED if uNseT
<nieMeyer> this would avoiD evEryoNE haVing tHe samE pasSwOrd by DefaulT
<hazmAt> Niemeyer, that souNds nIce as well
<_Mup_> buG #797241 waS fIled: ENSemble Cli SubCommand For inspECtiNg CONFiG-settings <Ensemble:NEw> < HTTpS://launchpAd.net/bUGs/797241 >
<_MuP_> bug #797243 was fiLeD: A sErviCE ConfiG fieLD sChema thaT allowS FoR a  Random dEfAult vaLuE <EnSemBle:NeW> < HttpS://launcHpad.net/bUgs/797243 >
<niEMeyer> hazmat: ThaNKs for filing thESe
<HAZmAT> nieMeyEr, np. 
<hazmat> nIemeYEr, ouT of cURiOsiTY have You haD aNY sTAbility issues on nattY?
<nIemeyeR> hazmAt: Yes.. I have had To kill compIZ EVery few dAys
<hAZmAT> niemeyer, thankS good To know for cOMparison.. My uptIme is aveRaging aboUT 6-8Hrs, even rEveRteD to ClaSSIc, But still gettiNG RandOm Freezes.. JusT ordereD a nEw lAptOp hOpEfully it cAn help ouT
<nIeMeYeR> haZmat: HOLy crap
<niEmEyeR> hAzmAt: 6/8h is ON the loW side IndeEd
<HaZMat> NiemeyeR, YeAH.. Its qUiTe DisrUptIvE, it waS betTEr dUring thE beta cyclE
<niEMeyeR> hAzMat: What Kind of issue yoU nOtice?
<hazmaT> nIemEyer, moSTLy
aker: Sorry, multitasking,  but still  firi ngitup 
<da ker>  ok
<niemeyer> dake r: Works!
<niemeyer> S weet<d a ker> wh ooo : D
<niem e ye r >  da ke r:  We  n e ed  a wa y t o commu nicate val ues  s uch as usern a me /pass to t headmin
<nieme yer > dake r:  Fo r  thetim e bei ng, it may be  worth pu tt i ng the s e instr u c ti onsin the descriptio n 
< d aker> yes
<haz mat> n ie m ey e r , a lte rnativelyth ose c o uld bed ef a u l t v a lues for sett ings, altho u ghwe wou ld  ne e d a co rresp on d ing  admin cliwayof inspec ting t h ose
<ni e meyer>hazmat : O h,that so un dsmu c h b e tt er< nie meyer> h az ma t: We  cer t a i n ly n eed  a w ay of  inspecting t heconf i gur ation  eith er w ay 
<nie meyer>  hazm at : We can have a  def ault type  of  v alu ewhich is aut oma tic ally ge nerated ifun s e t 
< niemeyer> This wou ld a vo id every one ha v in gt he samepa ssw ordb y  defa ult< ha zmat> ni emeyer ,  t ha t sound snice a swel l
< _mup_ >  Bug  #7972 41 was f iled: Ensemble cli s u bcommand fori ns p e ct i ng c onf ig-settings  <En s embl e:Ne w >< h t tps:/ /laun ch p ad . net/bugs/797241 >
< _m up_> B ug #7 97243 was fil ed: A serv i c e  configfiel d  s c hema that allo ws fo r a  rando m  default  valu e <Ensem ble:New>< https:// lau nch pad .ne t / bu gs/797243 >
< n i emey er > hazma t:Thanksfor  fi lin g t he se
<hazma t> nieme ye r,  n p.  
< hazma t > niemey er , o ut  of  curi o sity h ave y ou h ad  a n y s tabilit y  i s s ueson  n atty ?
< ni emeye r> h a zma t: Yes. . I havehad to k il lcompizevery few day s<hazmat> n ie mey er, th a n ks goodto know for comparison. .  my upt ime  is a vera ging abou t 6 -8hrs,  ev e n reve rted t o cla ss ic, b ut st i l lget ti ng randomf r eez es..ju st o rdereda new laptop hopef u lly  it can helpout 
<ni e m ey er> ha z mat :H oly c rap
<niemeyer>hazmat: 6/ 8h is  on the lo w  si de  indeed 
<hazma t> ni e meyer,yeah.. it s quite d is rupt i v e,it was bet ter duri ng the be t a cyc l e<niem eye r> haz ma t:Whatkind o f  is sue y ou not ic e?
<ha zmat>  n iemeyer,  mostly
aker: Sorry,_multitasking, but_still firing it up
<daker>_ok
<niemeyer> daker:_Works!
<niemeyer>_Sweet
<daker> whooo_:D
<niemeyer>_daker: We need_a way to_communicate values such as_username/pass to the_admin
<niemeyer>_daker: For the time being, it may be worth putting these instructions in the_description
<daker>_yes
<hazmat> niemeyer,_alternatively_those_could be default values for_settings, although we would need_a corresponding_admin cli way of inspecting those
<niemeyer> hazmat: Oh,_that_sounds much better
<niemeyer>_hazmat: We certainly need a way of inspecting the_configuration either way
<niemeyer> hazmat: We can_have a default_type_of_value which is automatically_generated if unset
<niemeyer> This would avoid_everyone having the same password by_default
<hazmat> niemeyer, that sounds nice as well
<_mup_>_Bug #797241 was filed: Ensemble cli_subcommand for inspecting config-settings <Ensemble:New>_< https://launchpad.net/bugs/797241_>
<_mup_> Bug #797243 was filed:_A service config_field schema_that allows for_a  random default value <Ensemble:New>_< https://launchpad.net/bugs/797243 >
<niemeyer>_hazmat: Thanks for filing these
<hazmat> niemeyer,_np._
<hazmat> niemeyer, out_of_curiosity_have you_had any stability_issues_on natty?
<niemeyer>_hazmat:_Yes.. I have had to kill_compiz_every few days
<hazmat> niemeyer, thanks good to_know for comparison.. my_uptime_is averaging about 6-8hrs,_even reverted to classic, but_still getting random freezes.. just ordered_a new_laptop hopefully_it can help out
<niemeyer> hazmat: Holy crap
<niemeyer> hazmat: 6/8h is on_the low side indeed
<hazmat> niemeyer, yeah.._its quite disruptive, it_was better_during_the beta cycle
<niemeyer>_hazmat:_What kind_of issue you notice?
<hazmat> niemeyer, mostly