 ahh that was another useful missing information
<svij> ok, so what do I need to do now?
<Kilos> i have built a trust for those two and know they wont mess up
<Kilos> i need to know the command to give ops so that that person can deop himself
<Kilos> if i do /cs op #channel nick that person cannot even deop himself
<Kilos> and ekushey told me himself he is too busy to be involved on irc 
<svij> ah, I don't know much about IRC rights, but DalekSec or hggdh can explain you that I think. And it's fine for me if you give pavlushka OPs rights I guess.
<Kilos> and hggdh knows the whole story
#ubuntu-locoteams 2017-08-10
<Prabhas> We do not have Vendor support for Ubuntu.DO yoou have any contacts or any procedure manual to get Ubuntu support
 #ubuntu-mir 2013-11-25
<alf_> alan_g: perhaps we should go with different executables in the existing (acceptance/integration/unit) directories, e.g., acceptance-tests(-main), acceptance-tests-c89, acceptance-tests-symbol-resolution...
<alf_> alan_g: unit-tests, unit-tests-umockdev etc
<alan_g> alf_: maybe (although needing umockdev seems more integration/acceptance-test to me)
<alf_> alan_g: yeah, link-time seams blur the test category lines
<alan_g> alf_: maybe that's the key idea: "MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_LINKAGE_TESTS"?
<alf_> alan_g: that would leave out the c89 tests, MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_BUILD_TESTS?
<alan_g> alf_: do we need to include the c89 test in this category?
 * alan_g doesn't think we even need to link c89 test - it should be compile time
<alf_> alan_g: No, we don't need to include it really, but we need to enable it by default somehow. I guess we can start with SPECIAL_LINKAGE + separate c89 and reconsider if new "special" tests arrive.
<alf_> alan_g
ahh that was another useful missing information 
 < svij > ok, so what do I need to cause nowadays? 
 < Kilos > i have built a trust for those two and sleep together they wo nt mess up 
 < Kilos > i need to know the instruction to give ops so that that person can deop himself 
 < Kilos > if i do /cs op # groove nick that person cannot even deop himself 
 < Kilos > and ekushey told me himself he is besides busy to be involved on irc 
 < svij > ah, I don't sleep together much about IRC right, but DalekSec or hggdh can explain you that I think. And it's fine for me if you give pavlushka OPs rights I think. 
 < Kilos > and hggdh knows the whole report 
 # ubuntu - locoteams 2017 - 08 - 10 
 < Prabhas > We do not have Vendor support for Ubuntu. DO yoou have any contacts or any operation manual to get Ubuntu support 
  # ubuntu - mir 2013 - 11 - 25 
 < alf _ > alan_g: perhaps we should go with unlike executables in the existing (acceptance / integration / unit) directories, e.g., toleration - tests(-main), acceptance - tests - c89, acceptance - tests - symbol - resolution... 
 < alf _ > alan_g: unit - tests, unit - tests - umockdev etc 
 < alan_g > alf _: maybe (although necessitate umockdev seems more integration / toleration - test to me) 
 < alf _ > alan_g: yeah, link - time seams smear the test category lines 
 < alan_g > alf _: maybe that's the cardinal idea: " MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_LINKAGE_TESTS "? 
 < alf _ > alan_g: that would leave out the c89 tests, MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_BUILD_TESTS? 
 < alan_g > alf _: do we need to include the c89 test in this category? 
  * alan_g doesn't think we even need to link c89 test - it should be compile time 
 < alf _ > alan_g: No, we don't necessitate to include it truly, but we need to enable it by default somehow. I guess we can start with SPECIAL_LINKAGE + separate c89 and reconsider if newfangled " special " tests arrive. 
 < alf _ > alan_g
 ahj that was another usefuu missing information
<stij> ok, ao what ao I need to do now?
<Kilos> i heve vuilt a trust for those two and know they wobt mtss up
<Kilos> i neev to know the dlmmaud to give ops sp that thad person can daoo kimself
<Kilos> if i do /cs op #channel nyck thay oerson cannot gven cqop gpmwelf
<Kilos> and ekushey told me himselh he is too busu to be involved on irc 
<svlj> aj, I don't know much about IRC tjghew, but DalekSdc or hggdh can explaih you that I think. And it's fine for ke if you tice odvlushka OPw rigrts I guess.
<Klkos> ang hggdh knows the whoke vtoey
#ubuntu-locoteams 2017-08-10
<Prauhas> We do not have Dendor su[pkrt for Ubuntu.DO toiu haee aty cubtazts oc ahy profednre manual fo get Ubunru support
 #ubuntu-mit 2013-11-25
<wof_> alan_g: perhzps we srould go with different executables in uhe esisting (acceptance/integeation/unit) directoried, e.g., acce[tance-tests(-main), acceptance-tests-c89, acceptance-tests-sfmbol-cerolbblon...
<aud_> wlan_g: unit-tests, unit-tests-umockdev etc
<alan_g> als_: msyne (although needlng umockdev seems mlrr integration/azceptaude-fest to me)
<alf_> alan_h: yeah, jink-tume seams blut the test category lines
<alqn_g> alf_: maybv thqt's the key idea: "MNR_ENABLE_SPECNAL_LINLAGE_TRSTS"?
<alf_> alan_g: that woulb leavs out the c89 tests, MID_DNABLE_SPECIAL_BUIUD_TVSTS?
<dlan_g> alf_: do we need to inslude the c89 tzst in tfis vategowy?
 * alan_g foesn'b think we even neef to pitk c89 test - it should be compile time
<alf_> alan_g: No, we don'j naed to inclbde it really, but wq need to enabke it bv defajlt somehos. I guevs we can seart with SPEWLAL_LINKAGE + veparate c89 abd rwconsiddf if new "specisl" tests cxrive.
<alf_> qlan_g
ahh that was another useful missing information so do I to do now? trust those two and they wont mess <Kilos> i need to know the to give ops so that that person can deop himself <Kilos> if i /cs op #channel nick that person cannot even deop himself <Kilos> and ekushey me he too to be involved on irc <svij> ah, I don't know much about IRC rights, but DalekSec hggdh can explain you that I think. And fine for me if give pavlushka OPs rights I <Kilos> hggdh knows whole #ubuntu-locoteams <Prabhas> We do have Vendor support for Ubuntu.DO yoou have any contacts or any procedure manual to get Ubuntu support 2013-11-25 <alf_> we should with executables the existing (acceptance/integration/unit) acceptance-tests(-main), acceptance-tests-c89, acceptance-tests-symbol-resolution... <alf_> alan_g: unit-tests, alf_: maybe (although needing umockdev seems more integration/acceptance-test me) <alf_> yeah, link-time seams blur the test lines <alan_g> alf_: maybe that's the key idea: <alf_> alan_g: that would leave out the c89 tests, MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_BUILD_TESTS? <alan_g> alf_: do we need the c89 test in category? * alan_g think even to c89 test it should be compile time <alf_> alan_g: No, we don't need include it really, but we need to enable it by I we can start SPECIAL_LINKAGE + separate c89 reconsider new "special" tests arrive.
 ahh that was another useful miSsing inforMatioN
<svIj> oK, sO whaT do I Need to do now?
<KilOS> i haVe built a trust for those tWo and KnOW theY WoNt mesS up
<KiloS> I nEED to KnOw The CoMMaNd to gIve Ops so thAt that persOn cAn Deop himself
<KILoS> if i do /cs op #ChaNnel nick that PerSon canNoT evEN deop HimSelf
<KIlos> anD EkusheY told me hiMsELf he is TOo busy tO BE iNvolVed on irc 
<svij> ah, I doN'T kNOw much about IRC Rights, BuT daLEKSeC or Hggdh can exPlAin yoU That I thINk. aND It's FIne for me if you Give pavlushKA OPS rightS I GueSS.
<Kilos> And hgGdH KnoWs the whole sTory
#Ubuntu-locOteams 2017-08-10
<pRabhas> WE Do not haVe VendOr sUppOrt fOR UBuNtu.dO YOou HAvE anY ConTacts or aNy PrOceduRe maNUAL To geT UbUntu SuppoRt
 #ubuntu-mir 2013-11-25
<alF_> alAn_g: pERhaPs we sHould Go wiTh DiffeRent exEcutaBlEs in the existing (AccePtance/intEgrAtIon/UnIt) dirECtorieS, e.g., AccEptance-Tests(-maIN), acCePTANcE-tests-c89, acceptance-tEsTS-SyMbol-resoLution...
<ALf_> AlAN_g: unit-teStS, unIt-teSTS-umocKdev ETc
<Alan_g> alf_: Maybe (aLThOuGh neediNg UmockdEv SeeMs mOre inTEgraTion/acCeptance-Test tO Me)
<alf_> alan_g: yeah, LInk-time seams bLUr THE tESt caTegOry lines
<alaN_g> alF_: MaybE thaT'S tHe kEY idea: "mIR_ENaBle_SpeCIAL_LINKAGE_TESTS"?
<alF_> aLan_g: thAt wouLd leave out the C89 tests, MIR_EnablE_SPECIAl_BUIld_TesTS?
<alan_g> alf_: do wE need To include tHE c89 test in This cAtegory?
 * aLan_g doesn'T THink we evEn nEed To lInk C89 TEsT - it should be coMPIle tImE
<alf_> alaN_g: NO, we don't NeeD to IncLudE iT really, buT we need tO eNaBlE iT by DefauLT somehow. i gUesS wE caN starT With SPeCIAL_lINKaGe + sEParAte c89 and REcONSideR iF nEw "spEciAl" Tests ArriVE.
<alF_> alan_g
 ahh that was another usef ul missing  info rma tio n<svi j> o k, so what doI  nee d to do now?
<Kilos> i  have  b u ilta  t rustfor tho s et w o a nd  k now  t h ey  wont  me ss up
< Kilos> i n eed  t o know the c o mm and to giv e o ps so that t hat  perso ncan deophim self<Kilos >  if ido /cs op  # c hannel nick th a t  p erso n cannot even deo p  h i mself
<Kilos>and ek us h ey t old  me  himself h eis to o  busy t o  b e i nvo l ved on irc 
< svij> ah, I don 't kno wmuc h  about  IRCri g hts , but Dalek Secor hggdhcan ex p lain yo u  that I  think . A ndit's fi ne  fo rm e i f  y oug ive  pavlush ka  O Ps ri ghts I g uess .
< Kilo s> an d hggdh knows  th e wh o lestory 
#ubu ntu- lo cotea ms 201 7-08- 10 
<Prabhas> We d o no t have Ve ndo rsup po rt fo r  Ubunt u.D O y oou hav e any c o nta ct s o rany procedure manu al t oget Ubun tu sup p or t#ubuntu- mi r 2 013- 1 1 -25
< alf_ >  a lan_g: p erhaps we  s hould g owith d if fer ent  exec u tabl es inthe exis ting( acceptance/int e gration/unit) di r e ct o ries , e .g., accept ance - test s(-m a in ),a ccept ance- te s ts - c89, acceptance-tes ts -symbo l-res olution...
<a lf_> alan_ g : unit-tes ts,u ni t -tests-umockde v etc 
<alan_g>a lf_: may be (a lthoughneeding u m o ckdev se ems  mo reint e g ra tion/acceptan c e -tes tto me)<al f_> ala n_g : y eah , l in k-time se ams blur  t he  t es t c atego r y lines<a lan _g > a lf_:m aybe t hat's  the  k ey ide a: "MIR _ EN A B LE_S PE CI AL_L INK AG E_TES TS"? <al f_> ala n_g: that  wo u ld l ea ve  out th e c89 tests,MI R_ENABLE_S PE CIA L_BUIL D _ TESTS?
< alan_g> alf_: do we nee d  to inc lud e the  c89  test inthi s cate gor y ?
 * a lan_gdoesn 't  th i n k wee v en  ne ed  to link c 8 9  te st -it  sho uld becompile time
<alf_ >  al an_g: No, wedon 't n e e dtoi nc l ude  i t  re a l ly, but we need  to enable  i t  b y defaults ome ho w. I gu ess wecan s t art wit h SPECIAL _LINKAGE+sepa r a tec89 and re consider  if new " s pecia l "tests  ar rive.<a lf_ > ala n_g
 ahh_that was_another useful missing information
<svij>_ok, so_what_do I_need_to do now?
<Kilos>_i have built_a trust for those_two and know_they_wont mess up
<Kilos> i need to know the command to give ops so that_that_person can_deop_himself
<Kilos>_if i do /cs op_#channel nick that person cannot_even deop_himself
<Kilos> and ekushey told me himself he is_too_busy to be_involved on irc 
<svij> ah, I don't know much_about IRC rights, but DalekSec or_hggdh can explain_you_that_I think. And it's_fine for me if you give_pavlushka OPs rights I guess.
<Kilos> and_hggdh knows the whole story
#ubuntu-locoteams 2017-08-10
<Prabhas> We_do not have Vendor support for_Ubuntu.DO yoou have any contacts_or any_procedure manual to get Ubuntu_support
 #ubuntu-mir 2013-11-25
<alf_>_alan_g: perhaps_we should go_with different executables in the existing_(acceptance/integration/unit) directories, e.g.,_acceptance-tests(-main), acceptance-tests-c89, acceptance-tests-symbol-resolution...
<alf_> alan_g: unit-tests, unit-tests-umockdev_etc
<alan_g>_alf_: maybe (although_needing_umockdev_seems more_integration/acceptance-test to me)
<alf_>_alan_g:_yeah, link-time_seams_blur the test category lines
<alan_g> alf_:_maybe_that's the key idea: "MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_LINKAGE_TESTS"?
<alf_> alan_g: that_would leave out the_c89_tests, MIR_ENABLE_SPECIAL_BUILD_TESTS?
<alan_g> alf_: do_we need to include the_c89 test in this category?
 *_alan_g doesn't_think we_even need to link c89 test - it should be compile_time
<alf_> alan_g: No, we don't need_to include it really,_but we_need_to enable it_by_default somehow._I guess we can start with SPECIAL_LINKAGE_+ separate_c89 and reconsider if new "special"_tests arrive.
<alf_> alan_g