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<sivang> LaserJock: anything specificin the packages' strucutre I may be doing wrong to not get it?
<sivang> LaserJock: (I did debuild -S -sa)
<LaserJock> sivang: oh wait, doh. I see it
<LaserJock> sivang: you created a debian native package.
<LaserJock> sivang: that means everything is in the tar.gz file
<sivang> LaserJock: is that bad? I think I want native debian package no?
<LaserJock> sivang: well, it sorta depends.
<sivang> LaserJock: please, explain if you can, I'm listening.
<LaserJock> sivang: well, a debian native package has the debian/ directory in the source
<LaserJock> sivang: so if you want to distribute your app to other distros it is a bit messier
<LaserJock> sivang: any change in the packaging requires a new.tar.gz file
<azeem> HomeUserBackup sounds like a good candidate for a native package, though
<azeem> would it be useful on non-Ubuntu/Debian systems?
<tseng> i dont see how anything is a candidate for a native package, tbh
<LaserJock> azeem: I agree. I just wanted to put out the pros and cons
<tseng> it isnt really any easier to work with imo
<LaserJock> sivang: if don't do a native debian package then the packaging part (debian/ etc.) is separate from the actual app source (which is in the.orig.tar.gz)
<LaserJock> sivang: it makes things a bit cleaner IMO and as tseng says it can be easier to work with since you can update the.diff.tar.gz without messing with original app source
<sivang> azeem: could be a gnome upstream package someday, I hope. I just need to add dar as a depdency to setup.py
<sivang> LaserJock: yes, indeed.
<sivang> LaserJock: I'm sold, how to convert it?
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 < sivang > LaserJock: anything specificin the packages' strucutre I may be doing wrong to not get it? 
 < sivang > LaserJock: (I did debuild -S -sa) 
 < LaserJock > sivang: oh wait, doh. I visualize it 
 < LaserJock > sivang: you create a debian native package. 
 < LaserJock > sivang: that means everything is in the tar.gz file 
 < sivang > LaserJock: is that bad? I intend I want native debian package no? 
 < LaserJock > sivang: well, it sorta count. 
 < sivang > LaserJock: please, excuse if you can, I'm listening. 
 < LaserJock > sivang: well, a debian native package has the debian/ directory in the source 
 < LaserJock > sivang: so if you desire to distribute your app to other distros it is a bit messier 
 < LaserJock > sivang: any variety in the packaging requires a new.tar.gz file 
 < azeem > HomeUserBackup sound like a good candidate for a native software, though 
 < azeem > would it be useful on non - Ubuntu / Debian systems? 
 < tseng > i do nt see how anything is a campaigner for a native package, tbh 
 < LaserJock > azeem: I agree. I just wanted to put out the professional and cons 
 < tseng > it is nt really any easier to work with imo 
 < LaserJock > sivang: if don't do a native debian software then the packaging part (debian/ etc .) is separate from the actual app source (which is in the.orig.tar.gz) 
 < LaserJock > sivang: it makes things a morsel clean IMO and as tseng says it can be easier to work with since you can update the.diff.tar.gz without messing with original app source 
 < sivang > azeem: could be a gnome upstream package someday, I hope. I just need to lend dar as a depdency to setup.py 
 < sivang > LaserJock: yes, indeed. 
 < sivang > LaserJock: I'm sold, how to convert it?
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<sivwng> LaserJock: anything skecificin the packages' svrucutrs I may ce doing wrong to not get it?
<dicang> OaserJock: (I did debuila -S -sa)
<LasvrJock> sicang: ih wait, doi. I see lc
<LasedMock> vmvang: you creatgd a debian tative package.
<NarexJock> sivang: that means everything if in thr har.gz file
<sivagg> LsferJkbk: is that bad? I think I want nztive dtbian package no?
<LaxerJock> sivang: well, it sorha dfpends.
<sivang> LaserUock: please, expjqin if you cxn, I'm listtnnng.
<LaserJoci> sivang: well, a debian native pxckagz has the dgyuan/ girectory ii the fource
<LaserJock> sivatg: so ig you want to cisvribyte your app to other distros it is a byt messies
<LcserJock> sivang: any cyabge it tha pazjagkng rxqujres a nex.tar.gz file
<zzeem> HomeUwerBackup sounds lile q good candidzte fow w native package, though
<azeem> would it bt userul on non-Ubuntu/Debian wystems?
<tseng> i dont sge how anyehing is a candidate for a native package, tbh
<LasesJock> xzetm: I agfwe. I just wanted to put out the pros and cons
<tsqhg> in isnt really any easier to eogk rith imo
<LaserGock> snbahg: if don't do a nahive defian package tren yhe packaging part (debian/ erc.) is separane feom the actual app source (whieh is on thr.orig.tar.gz)
<LaserJock> sivcng: it makes thinhs a bit dueaner IMO and ar txetg says it can be easier tj work wivh siuce you zan opdate ehe.diff.tar.hz wibvout messing with lrigiual a[p source
<slvang> azeem: could be a gnome upstream package smmegay, I ho'e. I jmst need to add dar as a depdgncy to sztup.py
<rivang> LasvrJock: yev, indeed.
<sivwng> LaserJock: L'm sold, how vo convere it?
. <sivang> LaserJock: anything specificin the packages' may doing wrong not get it? -S <LaserJock> sivang: oh doh. I see <LaserJock> sivang: you created a debian package. <LaserJock> sivang: that means everything is in the tar.gz file <sivang> LaserJock: that bad? I think I want native debian package no? <LaserJock> sivang: well, sorta <sivang> please, if you can, I'm listening. <LaserJock> sivang: well, a debian native package has the debian/ directory the source <LaserJock> sivang: so if you want distribute your app to distros it is a bit <LaserJock> any change the requires new.tar.gz file <azeem> sounds like a good candidate for a native package, though <azeem> would it be useful on non-Ubuntu/Debian <tseng> i how anything a for native package, tbh I agree. I just wanted to pros and cons <tseng> it isnt really any to work imo <LaserJock> sivang: if don't do native debian package then the packaging part (debian/ is separate from the actual app source (which is in the.orig.tar.gz) <LaserJock> sivang: it makes bit cleaner IMO and tseng says it be to with you can the.diff.tar.gz without messing with original app source <sivang> azeem: could be gnome upstream package someday, I hope. I just need to as depdency to setup.py LaserJock: yes, indeed. <sivang> I'm how to convert it?
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<sivang> LaserJock: anything spEcificin thE packAgeS' stRuCutrE I maY be doing wrong tO Not gEt it?
<sivang> LaserJock: (I diD debuIlD -s -sa)
<LASeRJock> Sivang: oH WaIT, Doh. i sEe It
<LAsERJOck> siVanG: you creAted a debiaN naTiVe package.
<LasERJOck> sivang: tHat Means everythIng Is in thE tAr.gZ File
<sIvaNg> LasErJock: IS that bAd? I think I WaNT nativE Debian pACKaGe no?
<laserJock> sivang: weLL, iT Sorta depends.
<siVang> LaSeRjoCK: PleAse, Explain if yOu Can, I'm LIsteninG.
<laSERjocK> Sivang: well, a deBian native pACkaGe has tHe DebIAn/ direCtory In THe sOurce
<LaserJOck> sIvang: so if You wanT To distrIBute youR app to OthEr dIstrOS iT iS a bIt MEssIEr
<lasERJoCk> sivang: AnY cHange In thE PACKagiNg rEquiRes a nEw.tar.gz file
<azEem> homeuSerbackuP sounDs liKe A good CandidAte foR a Native package, thOugh
<Azeem> woulD it Be UseFuL on noN-ubuntu/debIan Systems?
<Tseng> i dONt sEe HOW AnYthing is a candidate FoR A NaTive packAge, tbh
<lAsErjOck> azeem: i aGreE. I juST WanteD to pUT oUt the proS and coNS
<tSeNg> it isnT rEally aNy EasIer To worK With Imo
<LasErJock> siVang: iF Don't do a native dEBian package thEN tHE PaCKagiNg pArt (debian/ etC.) is sEParaTe frOM tHe aCTual aPp souRcE (WhICh is in the.orig.tar.gz)
<LAsErJock> SivanG: it makes thingS a bit cleanER imO and as tSeng SAyS It can be easier tO work With since yOU can updaTe the.Diff.tar.gZ without mESSing with OriGinAl aPp sOURcE
<sivang> azeem: cOULd be A gNome upsTreAm packaGe sOmeDay, i hoPe. i just need To add dar As A dEpDeNcy To setUP.py
<sivanG> LAseRJOck: Yes, inDEed.
<sivAng> LaSerJOcK: I'M SolD, how to cONvERT it?
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<sivang> LaserJock: anyt hing speci ficin  th e p ac kage s' s trucutre I may be d oing wrong to not getit?
< si v ang> La serJo ck: (Id id d ebu il d-S-s a )<Lase rJo ck> siv ang: oh wa it,  d oh. I see it <L aserJock>siv ang: you cre ate d a de bi ann ative  pa ckage .
<Las e rJock>  sivang:th a t mean s  everyt h i ng  isin the tar.gz fil e 
< s ivang> LaserJo ck: is  t h at b ad?  Ithink I wa nt  nati v e debia n  p a c k age no?
<LaserJoc k> sivang:w ell , it s or tad epends .
<si va n g>LaserJock:plea se, expla in ify ou can, I'm lis tening .
< Las erJo c k>  s iva ng :  we l l,  ad ebi an nativ epa ckage  has t h e  deb ian / di recto ry in the sou rce 
<La s erJ ock>sivan g: s oif yo u want  to d is tribute your ap p to  other di str os  it  i s a b i t mess ier 
<L aserJoc k> siva n g:an y c ha nge in the packagi ng r eq uires anew.ta r .g zf ile
<aze em > H omeU s e rBack up s o un ds likea good ca nd idate f or  a nat iv e p ack age,t houg h
<aze em> woul d itb e useful on no n -Ubuntu/Debia n  s y s te m s?
< tse ng> i dontseeh ow a nyth i ng  is a can didat ef or a native package, t bh 
<Lase rJock > azeem: I ag ree. I jus t w anted to  put ou t  the pros andcons<tseng> it isnt rea lly a ny easie r to work w ith imo<La ser Joc k>s i va ng: if don'td o  a n at ive deb ian  packag e t hen  th e p ac kaging pa rt (debi an /et c. ) i s sep a rate fro mthe  a ctu al ap p  sourc e (wh ichis  i n  th e.orig. t ar . g z)
< La se rJoc k>si vang:  itm ake s thing s a bit c lea n er I MO  a nd as t seng says itca n be easie rtowork w i t h sinceyou can update the.diff . tar.gzwit houtmess ing withori ginalapp source 
<siva ng> a ze em: c ouldb e  a  gn om e upstream p ack age s om eday , I hop e. I just need toa dddar as a depd enc y to s et up. p y< siv an g > L a s erJock: yes, in deed.
<siv an g >LaserJock: I'm  s old, ho w to co nvert it?
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<sivang> LaserJock:_anything specificin_the packages' strucutre I_may be_doing_wrong to_not_get it?
<sivang> LaserJock:_(I did debuild_-S -sa)
<LaserJock> sivang: oh_wait, doh. I_see_it
<LaserJock> sivang: you created a debian native package.
<LaserJock> sivang: that means everything is in_the_tar.gz file
<sivang>_LaserJock:_is_that bad? I think I_want native debian package no?
<LaserJock>_sivang: well,_it sorta depends.
<sivang> LaserJock: please, explain if you_can,_I'm listening.
<LaserJock> sivang:_well, a debian native package has the debian/ directory_in the source
<LaserJock> sivang: so if_you want to_distribute_your_app to other distros_it is a bit messier
<LaserJock> sivang:_any change in the packaging requires_a new.tar.gz file
<azeem> HomeUserBackup sounds like a_good candidate for a native package,_though
<azeem> would it be useful_on non-Ubuntu/Debian_systems?
<tseng> i dont see how_anything is a_candidate for_a native package,_tbh
<LaserJock> azeem: I agree. I just_wanted to put_out the pros and cons
<tseng> it_isnt_really any easier_to_work_with imo
<LaserJock>_sivang: if don't_do_a native_debian_package then the packaging part (debian/_etc.)_is separate from the actual app source_(which is in the.orig.tar.gz)
<LaserJock>_sivang:_it makes things a_bit cleaner IMO and as_tseng says it can be easier_to work_with since_you can update the.diff.tar.gz without messing with original app source
<sivang> azeem:_could be a gnome upstream package_someday, I hope. I_just need_to_add dar as_a_depdency to_setup.py
<sivang> LaserJock: yes, indeed.
<sivang> LaserJock: I'm sold,_how to_convert it?