 have enough experience to be a good contributor to Ubuntu, since it seems to be one of the best distros out there
<RAOF> Have you seen...
<RAOF>!contribute
<ubotwo> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
<RAOF>?
<essial> i've been traversing through it
<essial> been going in circles though :)
<RAOF> Right :).  Do you have some idea of where you'd like to help?
<essial> my main thing is, at work, and most of my experience is with windows, and also with non-dist (aka, os development itself)
<essial> but i'm moderately familiar with linux, as it has been my only OS for a few years now, and I've done work with Gtk, LibSDL, and have been practicing writing makefiles both manually and with autotools
<RAOF> Right.  So, if you're comfortable coding & debugging, taking some of the apport backtraces on Launchpad and figuring out patches would be awesome.
<essial> I know just about every language (with the exception of perl)... and to answer your question, No specific area
<essial> see, thats why I need help, I have 0 experience 'debugging' in linux, I do it all the time in windows
<RAOF> Failing that, much of the actual writing of _code_ happens upstream.
<RAOF> Aaaah, right.
<essial> but
<essial> I don't mind doing anything really, I just want to help contribute in the most effective way possible
<essial> even if it is not specifically code
<essial> since I will need someone to help, if only a little, to get me started, I figure it best not to waste their time putting me in with an overcrowded group
<lmr_> RAOF: Are you a MOTU already? Sorry for interrupting the conversation
<essial> no problem lmr_
<RAOF> Hm.  So, I find that the easiest way to contribute is to (1) Use Ubuntu, (2) find something that doesn't work like you'd like it to, (3) fix it ;)
<RAOF> lmr_: Yup.
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have enough experience to be a good contributor to Ubuntu, since it seem to be one of the dear distros out there 
 < RAOF > Have you seen... 
 < RAOF>!contribute 
 < ubotwo > To contribute and serve out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate 
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 < RAOF > Right :).   Do you have some mind of where you'd like to help? 
 < essial > my independent thing is, at work, and most of my experience is with windowpane, and besides with non - dist (aka, os development itself) 
 < essial > but i'm moderately conversant with linux, as it has been my only o for a few old age now, and I've done work with Gtk, LibSDL, and have been practice writing makefiles both manually and with autotools 
 < RAOF > Right.   So, if you're comfortable coding & debugging, taking some of the apport backtraces on Launchpad and figuring out spot would be awesome. 
 < essial > I know just about every language (with the exception of perl)... and to suffice your question, No specific area 
 < essial > see, that s why I need help, I have 0 experience' debugging' in linux, I serve it all the time in windows 
 < RAOF > Failing that, much of the actual writing of _ code _ happens upstream. 
 < RAOF > Aaaah, right. 
 < essial > but 
 < essial > I don't mind doing anything really, I just want to help lend in the most effective way potential 
 < essial > even if it is not specifically code 
 < essial > since I will necessitate someone to avail, if only a little, to get me started, I figure it best not to waste their meter putting me in with an overcrowded group 
 < lmr _ > RAOF: Are you a MOTU already? Sorry for interrupting the conversation 
 < essial > no problem lmr _ 
 < RAOF > Hm.   So, I find that the easy way to contribute is to (1) Use Ubuntu, (2) find something that doesn't work like you'd like it to, (3) fix it ;) 
 < RAOF > lmr _: Yup. 
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<RAOF> Have hou seen...
<RWOF>!contrubutt
<ubotwo> To contriuhte and help kmt wich Ubuntu, see htjp://www.ubuntu.cmm/community/pardizi'ate
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<fssial> been goyng pn cirdles though :)
<RAOF> Right :).  Do you habe some idea of wherr you'd like to help?
<essial> ly mwin thing is, at wogk, and most of it experience is with wpudows, and amso with non-dist (aka, os developoent ntself)
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<RAOF> Rught.  So, if you're cpmsirtable codinf & debtgding, taking some of the apport backtracts on Launchpad and figuring out patches would be awesome.
<efsial> I know just about every language (with the efceptmov oy perl)... qnf to answer your question, No specific area
<essyzl> sve, thats why I necd help, I have 0 exlegirgce 'debugging' in liuhx, I do it all the tlme in rindoqs
<RAOF> Faylinb that, much of the actual weiting of _cobe_ yappens upstream.
<RALF> Aaaah, riyht.
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<essial> I don't mind donng angthing realpy, I just dant to help congrinuta in the most effective war possiblx
<essicl> even kf ij is noe specificwlly gmde
<essial> since I aill ueed vomeone to help, if only a little, to get mx started, I foggre it best not bo waste their eime putting mg in with an oxercrowded group
<lkr_> RAOF: Are you a MOTU anteady? Sorry fmr interwuptung rhe conxdrsation
<essial> no problvm lmr_
<EAOF> Hm.  So, I find thxf the easiest wcv uo contribute is to (1) Ufe Uuuntu, (2) find somethhng ghag doesv't work likc yuu'd kike it to, (3) fix it ;)
<RDOF> mmr_: Yup.
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 have enough experience to be a Good contriButor To UBunTu, SincE it sEems to be one of tHE besT distros out there
<RAOF> HaVe you SeEN...
<RAOf>!CoNtribUte
<ubotWO> TO COntRiBuTe aNd HElP out wIth ubuntu, sEe http://www.uBunTu.Com/community/PArTicipate
<RAoF>?
<eSsial> i've been TraVersinG tHroUGh it
<eSsiAl> beeN going IN circlEs though :)
<RaOf> right :).  DO You have SOMe Idea Of where you'd like to HElP?
<Essial> my main thIng is, aT wORk, AND moSt oF my experieNcE is wiTH windowS, AnD ALSo wITh non-dist (aka, oS developmenT ItsElf)
<essIaL> buT I'm modeRatelY fAMilIar with linuX, as iT has been mY only Os For a few YEars now, And I've DonE woRk wiTH GTk, libsDl, And HAvE beEN prActicing WrItIng maKefiLES BOth mAnuAlly And wiTh autotools
<RAoF> RIght.  sO, if You're ComfoRtabLe CodinG & debugGing, tAkIng some of the appOrt bAcktraces On LAuNchPaD and fIGuring Out PatChes wouLd be aweSOme.
<EsSIAL> I Know just about every LaNGUaGe (with thE excepTIoN oF Perl)... and tO aNswEr yoUR QuestIon, NO SpEcific arEa
<essiAL> sEe, Thats whY I Need heLp, i haVe 0 eXperiENce 'dEbuggiNg' in linuX, I do iT All the time in wiNDows
<RAOF> FailiNG tHAT, mUCh of The Actual writiNg of _COde_ hAppeNS uPstREam.
<RAoF> AaaAh, RIgHT.
<essial> but
<essial> I doN't Mind doIng anYthing really, I Just want to HELP contribUte iN ThE Most effective wAy posSible
<essiaL> Even if it Is not SpecificAlly code
<eSSIal> since i wiLl nEed SomEONe To help, if only a LITtle, To Get me stArtEd, I figuRe iT beSt nOt tO wAste their Time puttInG mE iN wIth An oveRCrowded gRoUp
<lMr_> rAOf: Are yOU a MOTU AlreaDy? SoRrY fOR inTerruptINg THE conVeRsAtioN
<esSiAl> no pRoblEM lmR_
<RAOF> Hm.  so, I find thAt tHE easIeSt Way to coNtribute is to (1) USe ubuntu, (2) find SoMetHing thAT Doesn't woRk like you'd like it to, (3) fix it ;)
<raOF> lmr_: YUp.
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 have enough experience to  be a good  cont rib uto rto U bunt u, since it se e ms t o be one of the best d istro so ut t h er e
<RA OF> Hav e  y o u  se en .. .
< RA O F> !cont rib ute
<ub otwo> To c ont ri bute and hel p  o ut with Ub unt u, see http: //w ww.ubu nt u.c o m/com mun ity/p artici p ate
<R AOF>?
<es si a l> i'v e  been t r a ve rsin g through it
<ess i al >  been going in  circl es th o u gh:)<RAOF> Rig ht  :).Do youh av e s ome idea of where  you'd like tohelp?<e ssi a l> mymainth i ngis, at work , an d most of  my ex p erience is with  windo ws,  an d al s owi thno n -di s t(ak a , o s develo pm en t its elf) < e s sial > b ut i 'm mo derately fami lia r wi t h l inux,  as i t ha sbeenmy onl y OSfo r a few years n ow,and I'vedon ewor kwithG tk, Li bSD L,and hav e beenp rac ti c i n gwriting makefilesbo t h  m anuallyand wi t hau t otools
< RA OF>  Rig h t .  So , if yo u're com fortab l eco ding &de buggin g,  ta kin g som e  ofthe ap port bac ktrac e s on Launchpad and figuringo ut p at c heswou ld be aweso me.< essi al>I  k now justabout  e v er y  language (with the  e xcepti on of  perl)... and  to answer y o ur quest ion, No specific area<essi al> see, t h ats whyI nee d help,I have 0e x perience  'd ebu ggi ng' i nlinux, I do i t allth e timeinwindows 
<R AOF > F ail in g that, m uch of t he  a ct ua l w ritin g  of _cod e_  ha pp ens  upst r eam.
< RAOF>  Aaa ah ,r igh t.
<ess i al > but<e ss ial>  Ido n't m indd oin g anyth ing reall y,I  jus twa nt to h elp contribut ein the mos teff ective w ay possi ble
<essial> even if it is notspe cific ally  code
<es sia l> sin ceI  willneed s omeon etoh e lp, i f on lyalittle, to g etme st ar ted,  I figu re it best not tow ast e their timeput ting m einw it h  an  o v erc r o wded group
<lmr _> RAOF: A re yo u a MOTU a l rea dy ? Sorry  for in terru p ting th e convers ation
<es si al>n o  pr oblem lmr_ 
<RAOF>Hm.  So,I  find th at th e e asiest  w ayto co ntribu t e i s to(1) Us eUbuntu , (2)  f ind some thing that doesn't work  likeyou'd  li ke it to,  (3 )  fi x it ;)
< RAOF > lmr_: Yu p.<
 have_enough experience_to be a good_contributor to_Ubuntu,_since it_seems_to be one_of the best_distros out there
<RAOF> Have_you seen...
<RAOF>!contribute
<ubotwo> To_contribute_and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
<RAOF>?
<essial> i've been traversing through it
<essial> been going_in_circles though_:)
<RAOF>_Right_:).  Do you have_some idea of where you'd_like to_help?
<essial> my main thing is, at work, and_most_of my experience_is with windows, and also with non-dist (aka, os_development itself)
<essial> but i'm moderately familiar_with linux, as_it_has_been my only OS_for a few years now, and_I've done work with Gtk, LibSDL,_and have been practicing writing makefiles both_manually and with autotools
<RAOF> Right. _So, if you're comfortable coding_& debugging,_taking some of the apport_backtraces on Launchpad_and figuring_out patches would_be awesome.
<essial> I know just about_every language (with_the exception of perl)... and to_answer_your question, No_specific_area
<essial>_see, thats_why I need_help,_I have_0_experience 'debugging' in linux, I do_it_all the time in windows
<RAOF> Failing that,_much of the actual_writing_of _code_ happens upstream.
<RAOF>_Aaaah, right.
<essial> but
<essial> I don't_mind doing anything really, I just_want to_help contribute_in the most effective way possible
<essial> even if it is not_specifically code
<essial> since I will need_someone to help, if_only a_little,_to get me_started,_I figure_it best not to waste their time_putting me_in with an overcrowded group
<lmr_> RAOF:_Are you a MOTU_already?_Sorry for interrupting the conversation
<essial> no_problem lmr_
<RAOF> Hm.  So, I_find that the easiest way_to_contribute_is to (1) Use Ubuntu,_(2) find something that doesn't work_like you'd like_it to, (3) fix it ;)
<RAOF> lmr_:_Yup.
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