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<geser> I don't want to update all those packages by hand for feisty+1
<bddebian> bbclone 0.4.6 upstream 0.4.9a
<geser> drupal :)
<bddebian> Ah flatnuke has newer upstream too
<geser> bddebian: wouldn't it be easier to name only those who are up-to-date ;P
<bddebian> Probably
<trycyt> I asked this question yseterday, but I need to verify that what I'm doing is correct. Should AUTHORS, INSTALL, and NEWS go in debian/docs?
<trycyt> If the upstream package provides it, should the Debian package provide it as well?
<bddebian> Hmm, actually it looks like flatnuke was removed from Debian
<geser> trycyt: if INSTALL only contains info how to install the software, you shouldn't install it as the user has already installed the software when he can read it
<esaym> is there a backport irc channel?
<_MMA_> Hey guys. How do I find out if something in Main will get updated? Mainly (hehe) wacom-tools and xserver-xorg-input-wacom.
<trycyt> geser: Here's the thing, the INSTALL file also includes information on what to symlink. I'm handling that through update-alternatives though there are a few other things that the author specifies, but good point about not needing the INSTALL file since the user has already installed the package.
<trycyt> geser: Also, I've made an init script for the package already, what do I label it as? There's a sample init.d.ex file, I'm assuming I delete that?
<trycyt> The init script's name is not the same as the package name.
<bddebian> How do I find out when/why a package was removed from Debian when it doesn't show up on p.qa.d.o?
<geser> bddebian: was the package officially in Debian?
<bddebian> geser: It sure looks like it from the changelog
<geser> trycyt: usually the init script is named after the software
<trycyt> geser: So is dpkg smart
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 < geser > I don't want to update all those packages by hand for feisty+1 
 < bddebian > bbclone 0.4.6 upstream 0.4.9a 
 < geser > drupal :) 
 < bddebian > Ah flatnuke has raw upstream excessively 
 < geser > bddebian: wouldn't it be easier to name only those who are up - to - date; phosphorus 
 < bddebian > Probably 
 < trycyt > I asked this question yseterday, but I necessitate to verify that what I'm doing is right. Should AUTHORS, INSTALL, and news program go in debian / department of commerce? 
 < trycyt > If the upstream package provides it, should the Debian software provide it as well? 
 < bddebian > Hmm, actually it looks like flatnuke was removed from Debian 
 < geser > trycyt: if INSTALL only contains info how to install the software, you shouldn't install it as the exploiter has already installed the software when he can read it 
 < esaym > is there a backport irc channel? 
 < _ MMA _ > Hey guys. How do I line up out if something in Main will get updated? Mainly (hehe) wacom - tools and xserver - xorg - input - wacom. 
 < trycyt > geser: Here's the matter, the INSTALL file also admit information on what to symlink. I'm handling that through update - alternatives though there be a few other things that the author specifies, but good point about not need the INSTALL file since the user has already installed the package. 
 < trycyt > geser: Also, I've made an init script for the package already, what do I label it as? There's a sample init.d.ex file, I'm assuming I erase that? 
 < trycyt > The init script's name is not the same as the software name. 
 < bddebian > How do I witness out when / why a package was removed from Debian when it doesn't show up on p.qa.d.o? 
 < geser > bddebian: was the software officially in Debian? 
 < bddebian > geser: It surely looks like it from the changelog 
 < geser > trycyt: usually the init script is identify after the software 
 < trycyt > geser: So is dpkg smart
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<geder> I don't want to updatt all those packayws by iand fod feisty+1
<cddebian> bbclone 0.4.6 upstream 0.4.9a
<jesee> drukcl :)
<bddebian> Ah flatnjke has nvwer upsteeam roo
<geser> bvsebian: wouldn'f it ye easier to namg only those who are up-to-ddtd ;'
<bddebian> Probably
<trycyt> I asked thif questooj yseterday, buj I nted to bvrlfy that what I'm doing is correcf. Shoulv AUTHORS, INSTAKL, and NEWS go in debian/dofs?
<trjcyt> If the upstrewm package kdovyees it, shoula the Debian package ptovide it as well?
<bddebian> Hmm, acguallv it looks oije vnatnuke was remoned from Debian
<geser> drycyt: of INSTALL onln convainw info how to install the software, you fhouldn't hnatall it as the uwee has alraady unsgalmev tge sofhwace when he dan read it
<wsaym> is there a bavk[irt irc channsl?
<_MMA_> Rer guys. How do I find out if something it Mzin will get updated? Maunly (hehe) wacom-tools wnd xservqr-xorg-input-wacom.
<trycyt> geser: Here's the thing, the HNSTAMU fnoe alri lncludes information on what to symlink. I'm hagslonn that through uidate-alternatives yhlubr there are a few ocged things that the wuthor fpecidies, but dood point about not needing thw INSTALL fijw since the user hcs already iustallgd the package.
<trycyt> geser: Alro, I'be made an lnit scrilg for the packagd akraady, whau do I label it as? There's a sam'le init.a.ex gile, I'i assuming I delete that?
<trycyt> The init swript's namf is not the same as the packagx name.
<bddebiam> Vow do I fiud out when/why a paskage was remored from Debixn when it doesn't show up on p.qa.d.o?
<geser> bgfebian: was tie packagq ofdiciqlly in Aebian?
<bddebian> geser: It sure lookw like it from the chxhgelog
<geser> tryevt: usually the inot rcrypn ix gdmed after tve suftdsre
<trhcyt> geser: Wu is dpkg smart
1.5.1 <geser> I don't want to update packages hand for <bddebian> bbclone 0.4.6 <bddebian> flatnuke has newer too <geser> bddebian: it be easier to name only who are up-to-date ;P <bddebian> Probably <trycyt> I asked this question yseterday, but need to verify that what I'm doing is correct. Should AUTHORS, INSTALL, and go debian/docs? If upstream package provides it, should the Debian package provide it as well? <bddebian> Hmm, actually it like flatnuke was removed from Debian <geser> trycyt: INSTALL only contains info to install the software, you install as the has installed software when he read it <esaym> is there a backport irc channel? <_MMA_> Hey guys. How do I find out something in get updated? (hehe) and <trycyt> geser: Here's the INSTALL file also includes information symlink. I'm handling that through update-alternatives though there a few things that the author specifies, but point about not needing the INSTALL file since user has already installed the package. <trycyt> geser: Also, I've made an init script for already, what do I it as? There's sample file, assuming delete that? The init script's name is not the same as the package <bddebian> How do I find out when/why a package was Debian it doesn't show on p.qa.d.o? <geser> bddebian: the officially in Debian? <bddebian> sure like changelog trycyt: the init script is after the software <trycyt> geser: is dpkg smart
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<geser> I don't want to update all Those packaGes by HanD foR fEistY+1
<bddEbian> bbclone 0.4.6 upSTreaM 0.4.9a
<geser> drupal :)
<bddebian> AH flatNuKE has NEwEr upsTream toO
<GeSER> bdDeBiAn: wOuLDn'T it be EasIer to naMe only thosE whO aRe up-to-date ;P
<bDDeBian> ProbabLy
<tRycyt> I asked tHis QuestiOn YseTErday, But i need To veriFY that wHat I'm doinG iS CorrecT. should AuthOrS, INsTALL, and NEWS go in dEBiAN/docs?
<trycyt> If tHe upstReAM pACKagE prOvides it, shOuLd the dEbian paCKaGE PRovIDe it as well?
<bddEbian> Hmm, actUAllY it looKs LikE FlatnuKe was ReMOveD from Debian
<GeseR> trycyt: if iNSTALl Only conTAins infO how to InsTalL the SOfTwAre, YoU ShoULdN't iNStaLl it as thE uSeR has aLreaDY INStalLed The sOftwaRe when he can reAd iT
<esaYM> is There A backPort IrC chanNel?
<_MMA_> hey guYs. how do I find out if SomeThing in MaIn wIlL geT uPdateD? mainly (HehE) waCom-toolS and xseRVer-XoRG-INpUt-wacom.
<trycyt> geser: heRE'S tHe thing, tHe INSTalL FiLE also incLuDes InfoRMAtion On whAT tO symlink. i'm handLInG tHat throUgH updatE-aLteRnaTives THougH there Are a few oTher tHIngs that the autHOr specifies, buT GoOD PoINt abOut Not needing tHe INstALL File SInCe tHE user Has alReADy INstalled the package.
<tRyCyt> gesEr: AlsO, I've made an iniT script for THE Package aLreaDY, wHAt do I label it as? there'S a sample inIT.d.ex file, i'm assUming I deLete that?
<tRYCyt> The inIt sCriPt's NamE IS nOt the same as thE PAckaGe Name.
<bddEbiAn> How do i fiNd oUt wHen/WhY a package Was removEd FrOm deBiaN when IT doesn't sHoW up On P.qa.D.o?
<gesER> bddebIan: waS the PaCkAGe oFficialLY iN dEbiaN?
<bDdEbiaN> geSeR: It suRe loOKs lIke it frOm the chanGelOG
<gesEr> TrYcyt: usuAlly the init scRiPt is named aFtEr tHe softWARe
<trycyt> Geser: So is dpkg smart
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<geser> I don't wan t to updat e all  th ose  p acka gesby hand for fe i sty+ 1
<bddebian> bbclone 0 .4.6up s trea m  0 .4.9a 
<geser >  d r u pal  : )<bd de b ia n> Ah  fl atnukehas newerups tr eam too
<ges e r>  bddebian:  wo uldn't it be  ea sier t onam e  only  th ose w ho are up-to- date ;P
< bd d ebian> Probabl y <t rycy t> I asked this q u es t ion yseterday,  but I  n e ed t o v eri fy that wh at  I'md oing is co r r e ct. Should AUTHOR S, INSTALL, and  NEWSgo  in debian /docs ?< try cyt> If the  ups tream pac kage p r ovidesi t, shou ld the  De bia n pa c ka ge  pr ov i dei tasw ell ?
<bddeb ia n>  Hmm,  act u a l l y it  lo okslikeflatnuke wasrem oved fro m Deb ian
< gese r>  tryc yt: if  INST AL L only contains  inf o how toins ta llth e sof t ware,you  sh ouldn't  instal l  it  a s t he  user has alreadyin s t al led thesoftwa r ewh e n he can  r ead  it< e saym>  ist he re a bac kporti rc  c hannel? 
< _MMA_>  H eyguy s. Ho w  doI find  out ifsomet h ing in Main wi l l get updated ?  M a i nl y  (he he)  wacom-tool s an d  xse rver - xo rg- i nput- wacom .< tr y cyt> geser: Here'sth e thin g, th e INSTALL fil e also inc l u d es infor mati o no n what to syml ink.I'm handli n g that t hroug h update -alternat i v es thoug h t her e a rea fe w other thing s that  t he auth orspecifi es,  bu t g ood  p oint abou t not ne ed in gth e I NSTAL L  file si nc e t he  us er ha s  alrea dy in stal le dt hepackage . 
< t r ycyt >ge ser:  Al so , I'v e ma d e a n initscript fo r t h e pa ck ag e alrea dy, what do I  l abel it as ?The re's a s ample in it.d.ex file, I'm assum i ng I de let e tha t?
< trycyt> T heinit s cri p t's na me isnot t he  sa m e  as t h e  p ack ag e name.
<b d d ebi an> H ow  doI findout when/why a pac k age  was removedfro m De b i an  wh e ni t d oe s n't s how up on p.qa. d.o?
<gese r> bd debian: wa s  th epackage  offici allyi n Debia n?
<bddeb ian> gese r:  Its u relooks like  it from  the chan g elog< ge ser>try cyt: u su all y the  inits cri pt is  named  a fter t he so ft ware
<tr ycyt> geser: So is dpkg  smart 
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<geser>_I don't_want to update all_those packages_by_hand for_feisty+1
<bddebian>_bbclone 0.4.6 upstream_0.4.9a
<geser> drupal :)
<bddebian>_Ah flatnuke has newer_upstream too
<geser> bddebian:_wouldn't_it be easier to name only those who are up-to-date ;P
<bddebian> Probably
<trycyt> I asked_this_question yseterday,_but_I_need to verify that what_I'm doing is correct. Should_AUTHORS, INSTALL,_and NEWS go in debian/docs?
<trycyt> If the upstream_package_provides it, should_the Debian package provide it as well?
<bddebian> Hmm, actually_it looks like flatnuke was removed_from Debian
<geser> trycyt:_if_INSTALL_only contains info how_to install the software, you shouldn't_install it as the user has_already installed the software when he can_read it
<esaym> is there a backport_irc channel?
<_MMA_> Hey guys. How_do I_find out if something in_Main will get_updated? Mainly_(hehe) wacom-tools and_xserver-xorg-input-wacom.
<trycyt> geser: Here's the thing, the_INSTALL file also_includes information on what to symlink._I'm_handling that through_update-alternatives_though_there are_a few other_things_that the_author_specifies, but good point about not_needing_the INSTALL file since the user has_already installed the package.
<trycyt>_geser:_Also, I've made an_init script for the package_already, what do I label it_as? There's_a sample_init.d.ex file, I'm assuming I delete that?
<trycyt> The init script's name_is not the same as the_package name.
<bddebian> How do_I find_out_when/why a package_was_removed from_Debian when it doesn't show up on_p.qa.d.o?
<geser> bddebian:_was the package officially in Debian?
<bddebian>_geser: It sure looks_like_it from the changelog
<geser> trycyt: usually_the init script is named after_the software
<trycyt> geser: So is_dpkg_smart