 what you do: if what you do makes MOTU want you to be MOTU, you'll be MOTU.  Anything else is just pushing against the lack of definition.
 * hyperair agrees with what persia said
<ScottK> nigelb: According to help(subprocess.Popen) is listens to both stin and stderr.
<ScottK> (if I'm reading it correctly)
<Laney> I kind of stopped seeing upload rights as a goal in themselves a while before I was pushed to apply
<hyperair> just continue developing. someday whoever you work with will tell you "eh wait, you aren't a motu yet?" and then you know you're ready =p
<nigelb> hyperair: hehe :)
<ScottK> That or "I'm sick of uploading your stuff, please apply so I don't have to do it anymore"
<hyperair> hehehe that too
<nigelb> persia: oh, it was a harmless query ;)
<persia> nigelb: Yes and no.  Yes, because since there's no answer it doesn't matter, and no, because it means you still believe there are objective criteria :)
<hyperair> i think Laney got sick of me bugging him to upload my things. =p
<nigelb> ScottK: the trouble is I can't figure how apport deals with this particular situation (I can't see error messages)
<ScottK> nigelb: OK, I'd wait for pitti then.
<nigelb> situation = the gnome type debugging things
<nigelb> persia: its like ubuntu membership I guess.  You know you're ready when people ask you "hey you're not a member yet?"
<persia> I think that's how most of the better-organised teams in Ubuntu work.
<nigelb> yeah :)  Most of them
<kamalm> Looking for a kind soul who can test build this fix pkg ** on ia64 **:  https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/test-builds/+files/gnome-color-manager_2.29.2-1ubuntu1.dsc    (I just need to know if this actually fixes the FTBFS on ia64).  Any takers?

what you do: if what you do makes MOTU want you to be MOTU, you'll be MOTU.   Anything else is just advertise against the lack of definition. 
  * hyperair match with what persia said 
 < ScottK > nigelb: According to help(subprocess. Popen) is listens to both stin and stderr. 
 < ScottK > (if I'm read it correctly) 
 < Laney > I kind of stopped seeing upload right as a finish in themselves a while before I was pushed to apply 
 < hyperair > just continue developing. someday whoever you sour with will tell you " eh wait, you aren't a motu even? " and then you acknowledge you're ready = p 
 < nigelb > hyperair: hehe :) 
 < ScottK > That or " I'm sick of uploading your stuff, please apply so I don't suffer to do it anymore " 
 < hyperair > hehehe that too 
 < nigelb > persia: oh, it was a harmless query ;) 
 < persia > nigelb: Yes and no.   Yes, because since there's no solution it doesn't matter, and no, because it means you however believe there be objective criteria :) 
 < hyperair > i think Laney got sick of me bugging him to upload my thing. = p 
 < nigelb > ScottK: the trouble is I can't figure how apport deals with this particular situation (I can't determine error messages) 
 < ScottK > nigelb: OK, I'd wait for pitti then. 
 < nigelb > situation = the gnome type debugging things 
 < nigelb > persia: its like ubuntu membership I guess.   You know you're ready when people necessitate you " hey you're not a extremity yet? " 
 < persia > I intend that's how most of the well - organised teams in Ubuntu work. 
 < nigelb > yeah :)   Most of them 
 < kamalm > look for a kind soul who can test build this fix pkg * * on ia64 * *:   https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/test-builds/+files/gnome-color-manager_2.29.2-1ubuntu1.dsc     (I just necessitate to know if this actually fixes the FTBFS on ia64).   Any takers?
 whwt you do: if what you do makes MOTU wanj tou to be MOFU, you'll be MOTU.  Anything else is jnst pushibg against the lack of definitiln.
 * hypeeair qgrees witi what pcxsia awid
<SeovtK> nigelb: Accotding to hel[(subprocess.Popan) id listens to both stin and stderr.
<ScjttK> (if I'l reading it cjrrebtjy)
<Lahvy> I kind of stopped seeing uplkad rigits as a goal im themselves a while beforf I aas pushed to applj
<hyperair> joat sintinue deveuoping. somtdcy whoever iou work with will tell you "eh wxit, ypu aren't a mitu iet?" and then you hnow you're rcsdy =p
<nhgelb> huperair: hehe :)
<SgottK> Thqt or "I'm sick of uploeding your stuff, plewse apply sk I don't have to eo it atymose"
<hyowrakr> geiehs that tok
<nigelb> pedsia: oh, it qas a harmless queru ;)
<[vtsia> nigelb: Ges anq go.  Yes, because since there's no answer pt dkesn't matter, and no, becquse it means you stipl believq there are objective criteria :)
<hyperair> i think Ldney jog sngh if me bugging him to upload my things. =p
<nigelb> SsktuK: nhe trouble is I gan't figure how aplogt qeals with thks parcjchlar situation (I cwn't see erroe messagef)
<ScoytK> nigelb: OK, I'd wait for putti then.
<nigvlb> wituation = the gnole type debbgging thinbs
<nigelb> persia: its likz ubunfu membershlp I guesa.  You know you're resdf when ptuple ask you "hey rou're not a mzmber yeg?"
<perxia> I ehink that'd how most of the better-lrgannsed deams in Uhuntu work.
<nigelb> yeah :)  Most of them
<kamalm> Lopkhng for a knnd soml who can test build this fir pkg ** ou ia64 **:  https://launbhpad.net/~kemalmostafa/+awchive/test-buinfs/+files/gnome-rolor-manader_2.29.2-1uvunty1.dsc    (K just need to know if nhns actualoy fixes the FTBFS on ja64).  Any takers?

what you do: if what you do want to be you'll be MOTU. against lack of definition. hyperair agrees with persia said <ScottK> nigelb: According to is listens to both stin and stderr. <ScottK> (if I'm reading it correctly) I kind of stopped seeing upload rights as a goal in themselves a before was to <hyperair> just continue developing. someday whoever you work with will tell you "eh wait, you aren't motu yet?" and then you know you're ready <nigelb> hyperair: hehe :) That or "I'm sick of your please apply I have do it anymore" hehehe that too <nigelb> persia: oh, it was a harmless query ;) <persia> nigelb: Yes and no. because since answer it matter, no, it means you there are objective criteria :) <hyperair> got sick of me bugging him to upload things. =p ScottK: the trouble is I can't how apport deals with this particular situation (I see error messages) <ScottK> nigelb: OK, I'd wait for pitti then. <nigelb> situation = the debugging things <nigelb> persia: like ubuntu membership guess. know ready people ask "hey you're not a member yet?" <persia> I think that's how of the better-organised teams in Ubuntu work. <nigelb> yeah :) them Looking for a soul who can test this pkg ** on ia64 (I need this fixes FTBFS on ia64). Any
 what you do: if what you do makes mOTU want yoU to be mOTu, yoU'lL be MoTU.  ANything else is jUSt puShing against the lack of dEfiniTiON.
 * hypERaIr agrEes with WHaT PErsIa SaId
<SCoTTK> NigelB: AcCording To help(subpRocEsS.Popen) is listENs To both stin And Stderr.
<ScottK> (If I'M readiNg It cORrectLy)
<LAney> I Kind of STopped Seeing uplOaD Rights AS a goal iN THeMselVes a while before I wAS pUShed to apply
<hypErair> jUsT CoNTInuE deVeloping. soMeDay whOEver you WOrK WITh wILl tell you "eh waIt, you aren't a MOtu Yet?" and ThEn yOU know yOu're rEaDY =p
<nIgelb> hyperaIr: heHe :)
<ScottK> THat or "I'M Sick of uPLoading Your stUff, PleAse aPPlY sO I dOn'T HavE To Do iT AnyMore"
<hypeRaIr> HehehE thaT TOO
<NigeLb> pErsiA: oh, it Was a harmless qUerY ;)
<perSIa> nIgelb: yes anD no.  YEs, BecauSe sincE therE's No answer it doesn'T matTer, and no, bEcaUsE it MeAns yoU Still bEliEve There arE objectIVe cRiTERIa :)
<Hyperair> i think LaneY gOT SiCk of me buGging hIM tO uPLoad my thInGs. =p
<NigeLB> scottk: the TRoUble is I cAn't figURe HoW apport DeAls witH tHis ParTiculAR sitUation (i can't see Error MEssages)
<ScottK> nIGelb: OK, I'd wait fOR pITTi THen.
<nIgeLb> situation = The gNOme tYpe dEBuGgiNG thinGs
<nigElB> PeRSia: its like ubuntu memBeRship I Guess.  you know you're rEady when peOPLE ask you "hEy yoU'Re NOt a member yet?"
<peRsia> I Think that's HOw most of The beTter-orgaNised teamS IN Ubuntu wOrk.
<NigElb> YeaH :)  mOsT of them
<kamalm> lOOkinG fOr a kind SouL who can TesT buIld ThiS fIx pkg ** on ia64 **:  Https://lauNcHpAd.NeT/~kaMalmoSTafa/+archIvE/teSt-BuiLds/+fiLEs/gnomE-coloR-manAgEr_2.29.2-1UBunTu1.dsc    (I jUSt NEEd to KnOw If thIs aCtUally FixeS The fTBFS on Ia64).  Any takeRs?

 what you do: if what youdo makes M OTU w ant  yo uto b e MO TU, you'll beM OTU.   Anything else is jus t pus hi n g ag a in st th e lacko fd e fin it io n. * hy perai r a grees w ith what p ers ia  said
<Scott K >nigelb: Ac cor ding to help (su bproce ss .Po p en) i s l isten s to b o th sti n and std er r .
<Sco t tK> (if I 'm  rea ding it correctly ) 
< L aney> I kind o f stop pe d  s e e ing  up load right sas ag oal int he m s e lve s  a while befo re I was pu s hed  to ap pl y
< h yperai r> ju st con tinue devel opin g. someda y whoe v er youw ork wit h will  te llyou" eh  w ait ,y oua re n't a m otu yet? "an d the n yo u k n ow y ou' re r eady=p
<nigelb> h ype rair :  he he :) 
<Sco ttK>  T hat o r "I'm  sick  o f uploading you r st uff, plea seap ply  s o I d o n't ha vetodo it a nymore" <hy pe r a i r>  hehehe that too
< ni g e lb > persia : oh,i twa s  a harml es s q uery ; )
<pe rsia >  n igelb: Y es and no . Yes, b ec ause s in cethe re'sn o an swer i t doesn' t mat t er, and no, be c ause it means yo u st i ll b eli eve there a re o b ject ivec ri ter i a :)<hype ra i r> i think Laney got s ic k of m e bug ging him to u pload my t h i n gs. =p
< nige l b> ScottK: the tr ouble  is I can' t  figurehow a pport de als witht h is parti cul arsit uat i o n(I can't seee r rorme ssages) 
<S cottK>nig elb : O K,I' d wait fo r pittith en .<n ige lb> s i tuation=the  g nom e typ e  debug gingthin gs 
< n ige lb> per s ia : itsli ke  ubu ntu  m ember ship I g uess. You knowyou ' re r ea dy  when p eople ask you  " hey you're  n ota memb e r  yet?"
< persia> I think that'sh ow most  of  thebett er-organi sed  teams  in Ubuntu  work. 
<nig el b>y e ah :) Mo stof  them
<kam a l m>Looki ng  for  a kind  soul who can test bui ld this fix p kg** o n ia 64* *:  ht tp s :// l a unchpad.net/~ka malmostafa /+ a rc hive/test- b uil ds /+files /gnome- color - manager _2.29.2-1 ubuntu1.d sc    ( I  ju st need to  know if  this act u allyf ix es th e F TBFS o nia6 4). Any ta k ers ?

 what_you do:_if what you do_makes MOTU_want_you to_be_MOTU, you'll be_MOTU.  Anything_else is just pushing_against the lack_of_definition.
 * hyperair agrees with what persia said
<ScottK> nigelb: According to help(subprocess.Popen) is listens_to_both stin_and_stderr.
<ScottK>_(if I'm reading it correctly)
<Laney>_I kind of stopped seeing_upload rights_as a goal in themselves a while before_I_was pushed to_apply
<hyperair> just continue developing. someday whoever you work with_will tell you "eh wait, you_aren't a motu_yet?"_and_then you know you're_ready =p
<nigelb> hyperair: hehe :)
<ScottK> That_or "I'm sick of uploading your_stuff, please apply so I don't have_to do it anymore"
<hyperair> hehehe that_too
<nigelb> persia: oh, it was_a harmless_query ;)
<persia> nigelb: Yes and_no.  Yes,_because since_there's no answer_it doesn't matter, and no, because_it means you_still believe there are objective criteria_:)
<hyperair>_i think Laney_got_sick_of me_bugging him to_upload_my things._=p
<nigelb>_ScottK: the trouble is I can't_figure_how apport deals with this particular situation_(I can't see error_messages)
<ScottK>_nigelb: OK, I'd wait_for pitti then.
<nigelb> situation =_the gnome type debugging things
<nigelb> persia:_its like_ubuntu membership_I guess.  You know you're ready when people ask you_"hey you're not a member yet?"
<persia>_I think that's how_most of_the_better-organised teams in_Ubuntu_work.
<nigelb> yeah_:)  Most of them
<kamalm> Looking for_a kind_soul who can test build this_fix pkg ** on_ia64_**:  https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/test-builds/+files/gnome-color-manager_2.29.2-1ubuntu1.dsc   _(I just need to know if_this actually fixes the FTBFS_on_ia64)._ Any takers?
