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<SpamapS> FYI, I just updated the builder recipes for ensemble to make the bzr revno part of the upstream version.
<SpamapS> hazmat: a local daemon that does the ssh tunnel and listens to zookeeper updates for all status info would be doable, would it not?
<SpamapS> hazmat: we could even leverage dbus and have it spun up when needed.
<niemeyer> Lunch time!
<kirkland> SpamapS: do you mind trying out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/%2Bjunk/byobu-web/?
<jimbaker> wouldn't such a status daemon also be useful for an indicator?
<SpamapS> kirkland: bootstrapping.. :)
<SpamapS> kirkland: yesterday you were saying you felt like you were missing a concept.. did you figure it out?
<kirkland> SpamapS: sort of
<kirkland> SpamapS: i think it was around bumping the formula revision number
<kirkland> SpamapS: and pushing an upgrade
<kirkland> SpamapS: i spent 4 hours making changes locally
<kirkland> SpamapS: but not seeing those in my deployments
<kirkland> (okay, 4 is an exaggeration :-)
<SpamapS> DOH I hate that
<SpamapS> I still am pretty convinced that users will despise the revno too and just wonder why we don't use a hash of the zip file or something.
<kirkland> SpamapS: i feel like if my --repository=./ then obviously i want it upgraded every time
<kirkland> SpamapS: agreed;  if we have to use a revno, i want it bumped automatically for me
<kirkland> SpamapS: i don't want to think about tht
<SpamapS> kirkland: I spent like, 30 seconds trying to write a script to do that automatically, but got annoyed with the yaml libraries available. ;)
<kirkland> SpamapS: how good or bad is it/
<hazmat
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 < SpamapS > FYI, I just updated the builder recipes for ensemble to make the bzr revno character of the upstream interpretation. 
 < SpamapS > hazmat: a local daemon that does the ssh tunnel and listen to zookeeper updates for all status information would be doable, would it not? 
 < SpamapS > hazmat: we could even leverage dbus and have it spun up when necessitate. 
 < niemeyer > Lunch time! 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: do you mind judge out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/%2Bjunk/byobu-web/? 
 < jimbaker > wouldn't such a status daemon also be useful for an indicator? 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: bootstrapping.. :) 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: yesterday you were saying you feel like you were missing a concept.. did you figure it out? 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: sort of 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i think it was about bumping the formula revision number 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: and push an upgrade 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i spent 4 hours making changes locally 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: but not see those in my deployments 
 < kirkland > (okay, 4 is an exaggeration :-) 
 < SpamapS > DOH I hate that 
 < SpamapS > I still am pretty convinced that users will contemn the revno excessively and just wonder why we don't use a hash of the zip file or something. 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i feel like if my --repository=./ then obviously i want it upgraded every time 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: agreed;   if we suffer to use a revno, i want it bump mechanically for me 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i don't want to think about tht 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: I spent like, 30 seconds trying to write a script to do that mechanically, but got annoyed with the yaml libraries available. ;) 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: how good or bad is it/ 
 < hazmat
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<SpamapS> FYI, I just ukdated the buildet eecipev for snsemble to make the bzr revno part lf the ypstream version.
<SpamapR> hazmat: w local eaemib that does the ssm tunhcl anb oistens to zooleeper upddtes for all sdagud info would be doable, would it not?
<FpamapS> hwzmat: we could evem levsgane dbus and have it spun up when needed.
<iiemeyer> Lunch yime!
<kirkland> SpamapS: do yok mijd trying out bzr+sdh://bazaar.laubchpwe.net/~kirkland/%2Cjunk/byobu-web/?
<jimbaker> souldn't such a status daemon alro be useful fot zn hndicator?
<SpemapS> hirkland: boobxtrapphng.. :)
<SpakapS> kirkland: nestecday you were saying you helt like you were myssing a woucept.. did you figure ut out?
<khrkldnd> RpamxpS: sprf of
<kigklend> SpamapS: i think it was around bumping trv formula revjsion guiber
<kirkland> SpamapS: and pushing an upggade
<iirkland> SpamapS: i spenr 4 hours making changgs locally
<hirkland> SpamapS: but not seeing those in my deplofmenta
<yirjlwve> (lkay, 4 is an exaggeration :-)
<SpamapS> DOH I hate trzt
<XpsmapS> I still cm pretty convinvef yrat users wilu despnae the revno too and just wjnder why we djn't ise a hash of the zip file ir something.
<hurkland> SpamapS: i yeel like if my --teposiyory=./ then obviously i wcnt it upgraded egery time
<ikrkland> SpamapS: xgrved;  if we have to use a revno, i want iv bum'ed autooativally sor me
<kirkpand> SpamapS: i don't want to tkink dbout tht
<SoamapS> kirkland: I spent like, 30 sxronds trying jo frine a scri't to co that automwtically, but gpt annoved wigh the yamm libracies availabje. ;)
<kirkland> S[wmapS: how gomd or baq is it/
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-status &' <SpamapS> FYI, I just updated recipes ensemble to the bzr revno <SpamapS> a local daemon does the ssh and listens to zookeeper updates for status info would be doable, would it not? <SpamapS> hazmat: we could even dbus and have it spun up when needed. <niemeyer> Lunch time! <kirkland> SpamapS: you trying bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/%2Bjunk/byobu-web/? wouldn't such a status daemon also be useful for an indicator? <SpamapS> kirkland: bootstrapping.. :) <SpamapS> yesterday you were saying you felt like you missing a concept.. did figure it out? <kirkland> SpamapS: of SpamapS: i it around the formula revision <kirkland> SpamapS: and pushing an upgrade <kirkland> SpamapS: i spent 4 hours making changes locally <kirkland> SpamapS: not seeing my deployments (okay, is exaggeration :-) <SpamapS> hate that <SpamapS> I still am users will despise the revno too and just why we use a hash of the zip or something. <kirkland> SpamapS: i feel like if --repository=./ then obviously i want it upgraded every time <kirkland> SpamapS: agreed; if we have a revno, i want bumped automatically for <kirkland> i want think about <SpamapS> kirkland: I spent like, 30 seconds trying to write a to do that automatically, but got annoyed with the yaml ;) SpamapS: how good bad is it/ <hazmat
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<SpamapS> FYI, I just updaTed the builDer reCipEs fOr EnseMble To make the bzr reVNo paRt of the upstream version.
<spamaPS> HAzmaT: A lOcal dAemon thAT dOES thE sSh TunNeL AnD listEns To zookeEper updateS foR aLl status info WOuLd be doable, WouLd it not?
<SpamaPS> hAzmat: wE cOulD Even lEveRage dBus and HAve it sPun up when NeEDed.
<nieMEyer> LunCH TiMe!
<kiRkland> SpamapS: do yoU MiND trying out bzr+sSh://bazaAr.LAuNCHpaD.neT/~kirkland/%2BJuNk/byoBU-web/?
<jimBAkER> WOulDN't such a status Daemon also bE UseFul for An IndICator?
<SPamaps> kIRklAnd: bootstraPpinG.. :)
<SpamapS> kIrklanD: YesterdAY you werE sayinG yoU feLt liKE yOu WerE mISsiNG a ConCEpt.. Did you fiGuRe It out?
<KirkLAND> spamApS: Sort Of
<kirKland> SpamapS: i ThiNk it WAs aRound BumpiNg thE fOrmulA revisIon nuMbEr
<kirkland> SpamaPS: anD pushing aN upGrAde
<KiRklanD> spamaps: i sPenT 4 hours mAking chANgeS lOCALlY
<kirkland> SpamapS: buT nOT SeEing thosE in my dEPlOyMEnts
<kirkLaNd> (oKay, 4 iS AN exagGeraTIoN :-)
<SpamapS> dOH I haTE tHaT
<Spamaps> I Still aM pRetTy cOnvinCEd thAt userS will desPise tHE revno too and juST wonder why we dON't USE a HAsh oF thE zip file or sOmetHIng.
<kIrklANd> spaMApS: i fEel liKe IF mY --Repository=./ then obvioUsLy i wanT it upGraded every tiMe
<kirkland> sPAMapS: agreEd;  if WE hAVe to use a revno, i Want iT bumped autOMaticallY for mE
<kirklanD> SpamapS: i DON't want to ThiNk aBouT thT
<sPaMapS> kirkland: I SPEnt lIkE, 30 secondS trYing to wRitE a sCriPt tO dO that autoMaticallY, bUt GoT aNnoYed wiTH the yaml LiBraRiEs aVailaBLe. ;)
<kirkLand> SPamaPS: HoW GooD or bad iS It/
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<SpamapS> FYI,I just upd atedthe  bu il derreci pes for ensemb l e to  make the bzr revno pa rt of  t h e up s tr eam v ersion. <S p a map S>  h azm at :  a  loca l d aemon t hat does t hess h tunnel and li stens to z ook eeper update s f or all  s tat u s inf o w ouldbe doa b le, wo uld it no t? <Spama p S> hazm a t :we c ould even leverag e  d b us and have it  spunup wh e n  ne ede d.
<niemey er > Lun c h time! <k i r k lan d > SpamapS: do  you mind t r yin g outbz r+s s h://ba zaar. la u nch pad.net/~ki rkla nd/%2Bjun k/byob u -web/?< jimbake r> wou ldn 'tsuch ast atu sd aem o nals o  be  usefulfo ran in dica t o r ? 
<Sp ama pS>kirkl and: bootstra ppi ng.. :)<Spam apS>kirk la nd: y esterd ay yo uwere saying you  fel t like yo u w er e m is singa  conce pt. . d id youfigurei t o ut ? < ki rkland> SpamapS: s or t of 
<kirkla nd> Sp a ma pS :  i think  i t w as a r o und b umpi n gthe form ula re v is io n numbe r<kirkl an d>Spa mapS: andpushin g an upg rade< kirkland> Spam a pS: i spent 4 ho u r sm akin g c hanges loca lly< kirk land >  S pam a pS: b ut no ts ee i ng those in my depl oy ments<kirk land> (okay,4 is an ex a g g eration:-)< Sp a mapS> DOH I ha te th at
<Spamap S > I stil l ampretty c onvincedt h at users  wi lldes pis e th e revno too a n d  jus twonderwhy  we don 'tuse  ahas hof the zi p file o rso me th ing .
<ki r kland> S pa map S:  ifeell ike if  my - -rep os it o ry= ./ then ob v i ousl yiwant  it  u pgrad ed e v ery  time
< kirkland>  Sp a mapS :ag reed; if we have to  u se a revno ,i w ant it b umped au tomatically for me
<kir k land> S pam apS:i do n't wanttothinkabo u t tht<Spama pS> k ir kla n d : I s p e nt  li ke , 30 secon d s  tr yingto  wri te a sc ript to do that au t oma tically, butgot  ann o y ed  wi t ht heya m l l i b raries availabl e. ;)
<kir kl a nd > SpamapS: how  g ood orbad isit/
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<SpamapS>_FYI, I_just updated the builder_recipes for_ensemble_to make_the_bzr revno part_of the upstream_version.
<SpamapS> hazmat: a local_daemon that does_the_ssh tunnel and listens to zookeeper updates for all status info would be doable,_would_it not?
<SpamapS>_hazmat:_we_could even leverage dbus and_have it spun up when_needed.
<niemeyer> Lunch_time!
<kirkland> SpamapS: do you mind trying out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/%2Bjunk/byobu-web/?
<jimbaker>_wouldn't_such a status_daemon also be useful for an indicator?
<SpamapS> kirkland: bootstrapping.._:)
<SpamapS> kirkland: yesterday you were saying_you felt like_you_were_missing a concept.. did_you figure it out?
<kirkland> SpamapS: sort_of
<kirkland> SpamapS: i think it was_around bumping the formula revision number
<kirkland> SpamapS:_and pushing an upgrade
<kirkland> SpamapS: i_spent 4 hours making changes_locally
<kirkland> SpamapS:_but not seeing those in_my deployments
<kirkland> (okay,_4 is_an exaggeration :-)
<SpamapS>_DOH I hate that
<SpamapS> I still_am pretty convinced_that users will despise the revno_too_and just wonder_why_we_don't use_a hash of_the_zip file_or_something.
<kirkland> SpamapS: i feel like if_my_--repository=./ then obviously i want it upgraded_every time
<kirkland> SpamapS: agreed;__if we have to_use a revno, i want_it bumped automatically for me
<kirkland> SpamapS:_i don't_want to_think about tht
<SpamapS> kirkland: I spent like, 30 seconds trying to_write a script to do that_automatically, but got annoyed_with the_yaml_libraries available. ;)
<kirkland>_SpamapS:_how good_or bad is it/
<hazmat