ignored.
<Hobbsee> esaym: the xmms edgy deb will likely not work on dapper.  you need to rebuild it.
<Q-FUNK> they don't even bother checking if indeed is incorect build-depends.
<esaym> Yes I am back porting the one on fiesty to dapper.  I wanted to look at the edgy one to see if the backported one for dapper will work on edgy....
<danohuiginn> heh. bug 28763 has been waiting with a patch for a year, because nobody can work out if it's in universe or main. Efficient ;)
<Ubugtu> Malone bug 28763 in lshw "Missing.desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/28763
<Hobbsee> danohuiginn: yes.  i've looked at that.  it's clearly main.
<Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison lshw | grep archive
<Hobbsee>       lshw | 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
<Hobbsee>       lshw | 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources
<Hobbsee> i think it bounced to universe for a while there, though
<Fujitsu> The source has always been in main.
<Hobbsee> so someone's just incompetent, as the binary was in universe for a while, so they put it under as universe.
<danohuiginn> now I understand why the bug-fixing procedure is "write a fix, then hassle devs on irc until they commit it"
<Hobbsee> (the developer who did it, that is, by saying "the binary is in universe, we cant fix it")
<Hobbsee> danohuiginn: i dont have permissions to upload that to main.  until someone from main steps up and does it, it wont get done.  simple as that.
<danohuiginn> ah, well, it happens. just made me smile
<Hobbsee> ditto to most oftthe other u-u-s people
<bmm> Do you get any
ignored. 
 < Hobbsee > esaym: the xmms edgy deb will likely not work on dapper.   you necessitate to rebuild it. 
 < Q - FUNK > they don't even trouble checking if indeed is incorect build - depends. 
 < esaym > Yes I am back porting the one on fiesty to dapper.   I want to look at the edgy one to see if the backported one for dapper will sour on edgy.... 
 < danohuiginn > heh. microbe 28763 has been waiting with a spot for a year, because nobody can work out if it's in population or main. Efficient ;) 
 < Ubugtu > Malone bug 28763 in lshw " Missing.desktop file " [ Medium, Confirmed ]   https://launchpad.net/bugs/28763 
 < Hobbsee > danohuiginn: yes.   i've looked at that.   it's intelligibly main. 
 < Hobbsee > sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison lshw | grep archive 
 < Hobbsee >        lshw | 02.08.01 - 1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty / main Packages 
 < Hobbsee >        lshw | 02.08.01 - 1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty / main Sources 
 < Hobbsee > i remember it bounced to universe for a while there, though 
 < Fujitsu > The source has always been in independent. 
 < Hobbsee > so someone's just incompetent, as the binary was in population for a while, so they arrange it under as universe. 
 < danohuiginn > now I understand why the bug - fasten procedure is " write a fix, then hassle devs on irc until they commit it " 
 < Hobbsee > (the developer who suffice it, that is, by saying " the binary is in universe, we ca nt fix it ") 
 < Hobbsee > danohuiginn: i do nt have permissions to upload that to main.   until someone from main steps up and does it, it wo nt get done.   elementary as that. 
 < danohuiginn > ah, well, it happens. just make me smile 
 < Hobbsee > ditto mark to most oftthe early u - u - s people 
 < bmm > Do you get any
ignlred.
<Hobbsee> esaym: the xmos edgy deb will likelb not wkrk on dxpper.  you need to rebuild iv.
<Q-FUBK> thtj don't even bother chdcking if indeed us iicorect build-depxhds.
<esaym> Yes J am yark porting the pne on fievty to dapper.  I wcnted to look at the edgy one to see if the bwckported one sor cwpped will work on edgy....
<danohuiginn> heh. bug 28763 hes been waiting with a patch for a year, bfcaude nobody can work out if it's in tbiverse or mxin. Efficitnc ;)
<Ubugtu> Mamone bug 28763 in lshw "Missing.desktoo filz" [Medium,Condiemef]  https://launrhpad.nvt/bugs/28763
<Hobbsee> danohuicinn: yex.  i've looked st vhat.  it's clearly main.
<Hobusee> sarah@LongPointyFtick:~$ madhskn lshw | grep arcyice
<Hobtsee>       lrhw | 02.08.01-1nbuhtu2 | hhtp://erchive.ubunfu.com feistt/main Packages
<Hobbste>       lshw | 02.08.01-1ubhntu2 | rtep://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources
<Hotbsse> i think it bounced ti universe for a whilg there, thjugh
<Fujitsu> The source has always been in main.
<Hobtsee> au simcone'r jkst incompetent, as the binary was in universe rot s while, so then put it under as inlvrtse.
<danohuiginn> now I unserstand why the bkg-fixind proxedure is "wriye a fix, then hassle devs ob irc until nhey commit it"
<Hobbsee> (che developex who cid iy, that is, by saying "the binzry is in ujiverse, ws cant fix it")
<Hobbree> ddnohuiginn: i dont have periissions vo upkoad thxt tp main.  until soleone from main steps up and boes ht, it wont get done.  simple as that.
<danohumjinn> ah, well, ot haipens. jusc made me smile
<Hobbfee> ditto to mpst oftche otfer u-u-s pekple
<bmm> Do you get any
ignored. <Hobbsee> esaym: the xmms edgy deb not on dapper. need to rebuild bother if indeed is build-depends. <esaym> Yes am back porting the one on to dapper. I wanted to look at the edgy one to see if backported one for dapper will work on edgy.... <danohuiginn> heh. bug 28763 has waiting a for year, because nobody can work out if it's in universe or main. Efficient ;) <Ubugtu> Malone 28763 in lshw "Missing.desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28763 <Hobbsee> yes. i've looked at it's clearly main. <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ lshw grep archive lshw 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages lshw | 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources <Hobbsee> i think it bounced to universe for a while though <Fujitsu> has always in <Hobbsee> someone's just incompetent, binary was in universe for a put it under as universe. <danohuiginn> now I why the procedure is "write a fix, then devs on irc until they commit it" <Hobbsee> developer who did it, that is, by saying "the binary is in universe, we cant <Hobbsee> danohuiginn: i dont permissions to upload to until from steps up does it, it wont get done. simple as that. <danohuiginn> ah, it happens. just made me smile <Hobbsee> ditto to most u-u-s <bmm> Do you any
ignored.
<Hobbsee> esaym: the xmmS edgy deb wiLl likEly Not WoRk on DappEr.  you need to rebUIld iT.
<Q-FUNK> they don't even bothEr cheCkINg if INdEed is IncorecT BuILD-dePeNdS.
<esAyM> yeS I am bAck Porting The one on fiEstY tO dapper.  I wantED tO look at the EdgY one to see if tHe bAckporTeD onE For daPpeR will Work on EDgy....
<danOhuiginn> hEh. BUg 28763 has bEEn waitiNG WiTh a pAtch for a year, becauSE nOBody can work out If it's iN uNIvERSe oR maIn. EfficienT ;)
<UBugtu> mAlone buG 28763 In LSHW "MiSSing.desktop fiLe" [Medium,ConFIrmEd]  httpS://lAunCHpad.neT/bugs/28763
<hoBBseE> danohuiginN: yes.  I've looked At that.  IT's clearLY main.
<HoBbsee> sAraH@LoNgPoINtYSTicK:~$ mADisON lShw | GRep Archive
<HObBsEe>       lshW | 02.08.01-1ubuNTU2 | HTtp://aRchIve.uBuntu.Com feisty/main pacKageS
<hobBsee>       lShw | 02.08.01-1ubUntu2 | HtTp://arcHive.ubUntu.cOm Feisty/main SourcEs
<HoBbsee> i thiNk iT bOunCeD to unIVerse fOr a WhiLe there, Though
<FUJitSu> tHE SoUrce has always been iN mAIN.
<HObbsee> so SomeonE'S jUsT IncompetEnT, as The bINAry waS in uNIvErse for a While, sO ThEy Put it unDeR as uniVeRse.
<DanOhuigINn> noW I undeRstand whY the bUG-fixing proceduRE is "write a fix, tHEn HASsLE devS on Irc until theY comMIt it"
<hobbSEe> (The DEveloPer whO dID iT, That is, by saying "the biNaRy is in UniveRse, we cant fix iT")
<Hobbsee> daNOHUiginn: i dOnt hAVe PErmissions to upLoad tHat to main.  uNTil someoNe froM main stePs up and doES It, it wont Get DonE.  siMplE AS tHat.
<danohuiginN> AH, welL, iT happenS. juSt made mE smIle
<hobBseE> dItto to mosT oftthe oThEr U-u-S pEopLe
<bmm> dO you get aNy
ignored.
<Hobbsee> esaym:the xmms e dgy d ebwil llike ly n ot work on dap p er. you need to rebuild i t.
<Q -F U NK>t he y don 't even bo t h erch ec kin gi findee d i s incor ect build- dep en ds.
<esaym>Y es  I am back  po rting the on e o n fies ty  to dappe r. I wa nted t o  lookat the ed gy one to see ift h eback ported one for da p pe r  will work onedgy.. .. <d a n ohu igi nn> heh. b ug  2876 3  has be e nw a i tin g  with a patch  for a year ,  be causeno bod y  can w ork o ut ifit's in uni vers e or main . Effi c ient ;) <Ubugtu > Malo nebug  287 6 3in  ls hw "Mi s si ng. d esk top file "[M edium ,Con f i r m ed] ht tps: //lau nchpad.net/bu gs/ 2876 3 
<H obbse e> da nohu ig inn:yes. i'velo oked at that. it's  clearlymai n. 
<H ob bsee> sarah@ Lon gPo intySti ck:~$ m a dis on l s hw  | grep archive
<H ob b s ee >      lshw | 02 .0 8 .01-1ubu nt u2| ht t p ://ar chiv e .u buntu.co m feis t y/ ma in Pack ag es
<Ho bb see >     l shw| 02.0 8.01-1ub untu2 | http://archi v e.ubuntu.comf ei s t y/ m ainSou rces
<Hobbs ee>i  thi nk i t  b oun c ed to  univ er s ef or a while there, t ho ugh
<F ujits u> The source  has alway s b een in m ain. <H o bbsee> so some one's  just inco m petent,as th e binary  was in u n i verse fo r a  wh ile , s o th ey put it und e r  asun iverse. 
<d anohuig inn > n owI u nd erstand w hy the b ug -f ix in g p roced u re is "w ri teafix , the n  hassl e dev s on  i rc unt il they co m m it i t" 
< Hobb see >(thedeve l ope r who d id it, th ati s, b ysa ying "t he binary isin  universe,  w e c ant fi x it")
<Ho bbsee> danohuiginn: i d o nt have  pe rmiss ions  to uploa d t hat to  ma i n.  un til so meone  f rom m ain s t e ps  up  a nd does it , itwontge t do ne.  si mple as that.
<dan o hui ginn> ah, wel l,it h a p pe ns. ju s t m ad e  me s mile
<Hobbsee>ditto to m os t  o ftthe othe r  u- u- s peopl e
<bmm>  Do y o u get a ny
ignored.
<Hobbsee> esaym:_the xmms_edgy deb will likely_not work_on_dapper. _you_need to rebuild_it.
<Q-FUNK> they don't_even bother checking if_indeed is incorect_build-depends.
<esaym>_Yes I am back porting the one on fiesty to dapper.  I wanted_to_look at_the_edgy_one to see if the_backported one for dapper will_work on_edgy....
<danohuiginn> heh. bug 28763 has been waiting with_a_patch for a_year, because nobody can work out if it's in_universe or main. Efficient ;)
<Ubugtu> Malone_bug 28763 in_lshw_"Missing.desktop_file" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/28763
<Hobbsee>_danohuiginn: yes.  i've looked at_that.  it's clearly main.
<Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$_madison lshw | grep archive
<Hobbsee>  _    lshw |_02.08.01-1ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
<Hobbsee>_ _    lshw_| 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 |_http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main_Sources
<Hobbsee> i think_it bounced to universe for a_while there, though
<Fujitsu>_The source has always been in_main.
<Hobbsee>_so someone's just_incompetent,_as_the binary_was in universe_for_a while,_so_they put it under as universe.
<danohuiginn>_now_I understand why the bug-fixing procedure is_"write a fix, then_hassle_devs on irc until_they commit it"
<Hobbsee> (the developer_who did it, that is, by_saying "the_binary is_in universe, we cant fix it")
<Hobbsee> danohuiginn: i dont have permissions_to upload that to main. _until someone from main_steps up_and_does it, it_wont_get done._ simple as that.
<danohuiginn> ah, well, it_happens. just_made me smile
<Hobbsee> ditto to most_oftthe other u-u-s people
<bmm>_Do_you get any