 the best we can with the resources we have
<sabdfl> look at beryl - they set up their own repo and when the packages reached the point where they could go into universe, we weren't around to notice
<sistpoty> no, actually I've been thinking about experimental myself already, that'd defintely be a great thing to have
<sistpoty> (what was my no aimed at?)
<lupine_85> Question -- should there be a blank changelog for these new packages?
<sabdfl> ok, i thinkwe are all coming round to the idea of a place to host packages-under-development
<LaserJock> sabdfl: this is were I disagree though, we uploaded their packages
<lupine_85> Or should it be a continuation of the currently-existing changelog?
<sabdfl> what's important to me, is that this remains the FORUM for those developers and users
<Lure> sabdfl: but accepting them in universe with license issues is not an option, agreed?
<gnomefreak> lupine_85: i would start clean but im no motu
<sabdfl> Lure: agreed
<sabdfl> but if they were working here, those issues would be fixed much faster
<lupine_85> gnomefreak: that was my thought too
<lupine_85> 0.2.1-0ubuntu1, I assume
<LaserJock> sabdfl: and they were welcome to
<sabdfl> look how fast lupine_85 is working through the issues now we have this conversation in this forum
<geser> lupine_85: yes
<tsmithe> lupine_85, yep
<sabdfl> my point is that we should not say "go elsewhere till you solve those issues"
* ajmitch is going to leave, see you tomorrow
<sistpoty> cya ajmitch
<sabdfl> we should say "stay here, we will help you fix these issues"
<tsmithe> bye ajmitch 
<Toadstool> cya ajmitch 
<LaserJock> sabdfl: yes, because you went to #beryl-dev and got them
the best we can with the resources we have 
 < sabdfl > look at beryl - they specify up their own repo and when the software reached the point where they could go into population, we weren't around to notice 
 < sistpoty > no, actually I've been thinking about experimental myself already, that'd defintely be a bang-up thing to have 
 < sistpoty > (what was my no aim at ?) 
 < lupine_85 > Question -- should there be a blank changelog for these new packages? 
 < sabdfl > ok, i thinkwe are all come round to the idea of a seat to host software - under - development 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: this is were I disagree though, we uploaded their packages 
 < lupine_85 > Or should it be a continuation of the currently - exist changelog? 
 < sabdfl > what's important to me, is that this remains the FORUM for those developers and drug user 
 < Lure > sabdfl: but accepting them in universe with license issue is not an option, agreed? 
 < gnomefreak > lupine_85: i would start clean but i m no motu 
 < sabdfl > Lure: agree 
 < sabdfl > but if they were working here, those issues would be fixed much faster 
 < lupine_85 > gnomefreak: that was my thought too 
 < lupine_85 > 0.2.1 - 0ubuntu1, I assume 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: and they were welcome to 
 < sabdfl > look how fast lupine_85 is working through the issues now we have this conversation in this forum 
 < geser > lupine_85: yes 
 < tsmithe > lupine_85, yep 
 < sabdfl > my point is that we should not say " go elsewhere till you resolve those issues " 
 * ajmitch is going to bequeath, visit you tomorrow 
 < sistpoty > cya ajmitch 
 < sabdfl > we should say " stay here, we will avail you fix these issues " 
 < tsmithe > bye ajmitch 
 < Toadstool > cya ajmitch 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: yes, because you went to # beryl - dev and got them
 thf best we can with the rtsources we have
<scvdfl> lmok at beryl - ghey set up their own repo aid wyen tye packages reached thd point wjere thet conld go into univxdse, we weren't wrouud to notice
<sistkoty> no, actudlly I've been dhknning about experimental myself alrewdy, thay'd defintely be w grtat thihg to have
<sistpoty> (what was my no zimed au?)
<lupine_85> Question -- xhould there be a blank chwngepog for these new oackages?
<sabefl> jj, i thinkwe xre all coming round tk the idea of a place to host pxckagzs-under-deveoopmejj
<LaserJock> sebdfl: nhis is were L disagsee thoigh, we uploadec tieir packages
<lupine_85> Or shmuld it be a contiguation ox che currently-existing cyangenog?
<sdbdfu> whxt's ikpkrtant to me, is thaf this remauns the FORUM for tnofv developers znd usqrf
<Lure> sabdfl: but accepting them in univtrse sith license issues is bot an option, agreed?
<gjomefreak> lupine_85: i would start clean but im no motu
<sabdfl> Nure: egfeeb
<wabdfu> bkt if they were working here, those issues woujs ne fixed much fafter
<lupine_85> bnlmrsreak: that war my tkkufht too
<lupine_85> 0.2.1-0ubunhu1, I asfume
<LqserJock> fabdgl: and they were welcome to
<wabdfl> look kow fast lupine_85 is woxking througk the ossuex now we have this convzrsatikn in this vorum
<gesed> lupine_85: yes
<tsmitfe> ku[ine_85, yep
<sabdfl> my point is that we whoukd not ray "bo elsqwhere tilp you solve those issues"
* ajmijch is going to peave, see you tomorrow
<sistpoty> rba ajmitch
<sabcfn> wv should fay "sbay here, we wilj help you fix these nssues"
<gsmithe> byv ajmitch 
<Toadstool> sya ajmitch 
<LdderJock> sabdhl: yes, besausw yoy went gu #beryl-dev and got them
the best we can with the resources <sabdfl> at beryl they set up the reached the point they could go universe, we weren't around to notice no, actually I've been thinking about experimental myself already, that'd defintely be a thing to have <sistpoty> (what was my no aimed at?) <lupine_85> Question -- there a changelog these new packages? <sabdfl> ok, i thinkwe are all coming round to the idea of a to host packages-under-development <LaserJock> sabdfl: this is were disagree though, we uploaded packages <lupine_85> Or should it a of the changelog? what's to me, is this remains the FORUM for those developers and users <Lure> sabdfl: but accepting them in universe with issues is option, agreed? lupine_85: would clean but im <sabdfl> Lure: agreed <sabdfl> but if here, those issues would be fixed much faster gnomefreak: that my thought too <lupine_85> 0.2.1-0ubuntu1, I <LaserJock> sabdfl: and they were welcome to <sabdfl> how fast lupine_85 is working through the issues now we have this conversation in this lupine_85: yes <tsmithe> lupine_85, <sabdfl> my point that should say elsewhere till solve those issues" * ajmitch is going to leave, see you <sistpoty> cya ajmitch <sabdfl> we should say "stay here, we you these issues" <tsmithe> ajmitch <Toadstool> cya ajmitch sabdfl: because you went to got
 the best we can with the resourCes we have
<sAbdfl> LooK at BeRyl - tHey sEt up their own rePO and When the packages reached The poInT WherE ThEy couLd go intO UnIVErsE, wE wEreN't ARoUnd to NotIce
<sistPoty> no, actuAllY I'Ve been thinkiNG aBout experiMenTal myself alrEadY, that'd DeFinTEly be A grEat thIng to hAVe
<sistPoty> (what wAs MY no aimED at?)
<lupiNE_85> quEstiOn -- should there be a bLAnK Changelog for thEse new PaCKaGES?
<saBdfL> ok, i thinkwE aRe all COming roUNd TO THe iDEa of a place to hOst packages-UNdeR-develOpMenT
<laserJOck> saBdFL: thIs is were I diSagrEe though, wE uploaDEd their PAckages
<Lupine_85> or sHouLd it BE a CoNtiNuATioN Of The CUrrEntly-exiStInG chanGeloG?
<SABDfl> wHat'S impOrtanT to me, is that thIs rEmaiNS thE FORUm for tHose DeVelopErs and Users
<luRe> sabdfl: but accePtinG them in unIveRsE wiTh LicenSE issueS is Not An optioN, agreed?
<GNomEfREAK> lUpine_85: i would start clEaN BUt Im no motu
<Sabdfl> lUrE: aGReed
<sabdFl> But If thEY Were wOrkiNG hEre, those Issues WOuLd Be fixed MuCh fastEr
<LupIne_85> GnomeFReak: That waS my thougHt too
<LUpine_85> 0.2.1-0ubuntu1, I asSUme
<LaserJock> sABdFL: AnD They WerE welcome to
<sAbdfL> Look How fASt LupINe_85 is wOrkinG tHRoUGh the issues now we havE tHis conVersaTion in this forUm
<geser> lupINE_85: Yes
<tsmitHe> luPInE_85, Yep
<sabdfl> my poiNt is tHat we shoulD Not say "go ElsewHere till You solve tHOSe issues"
* AjmItcH is GoiNG To Leave, see you toMORrow
<SiStpoty> cYa aJmitch
<sAbdFl> wE shOulD sAy "stay herE, we will hElP yOu FiX thEse isSUes"
<tsmitHe> Bye AjMitCh 
<ToaDStool> cYa ajmItch 
<laSeRjocK> sabdfl: YEs, BECausE yOu Went To #bErYl-dev And gOT thEm
 the best we can with theresourceswe ha ve<sa bd fl>look  at beryl - th e y se t up their own repo an d whe nt he p a ck agesreached th e poi nt  w her et he y cou ldgo into  universe,  we  w eren't aroun d  t o notice
< sis tpoty> no, a ctu ally I 'v e b e en th ink ing a bout e x perime ntal myse lf alread y , that' d de fint ely be a great th i ng to have
<sistp oty> ( wh a tw a s m y n o aimed at ?) 
<lup i ne_85>Q ue s t i on- - should ther e be a blan k  ch angelo gfor thesenew p ac k age s?
<sabdfl>  ok,  i thinkw e area ll comi n g round  to th e i dea  ofa  p la ceto hos t  p ack a ges -under-d ev el opmen t
<L a s e r Jock > s abdf l: th is is were Idis agre e  th ough,  we u ploa de d the ir pac kages 
< lupine_85> Or s houl d it be a  co nt inu at ion o f  the c urr ent ly-exis ting ch a nge lo g ? <s abdfl> what's impo rt a n tto me, i s that th is remainsth e F ORUM f or th osed ev elopersand us e rs 
< Lure> s ab dfl: b ut  ac cep tingt hemin uni verse wi th li c ense issues is not an option ,  a g r ee d ?
<g nom efreak> lup ine_ 8 5: i  wou l dsta r t cle an bu ti mn o motu
<sabdfl> Lur e:  agree d
<sa bdfl> but ifthey werew o r king her e, t h os e  issues wouldbe fi xed much f a ster
<lu pine_ 85> gnom efreak: t h a t was my  th oug httoo < lu pine_85> 0.2. 1 - 0ubu nt u1, I a ssu me
<Las erJ ock > s abd fl : and the y were w el co me  t o
< sabdf l > look h ow  fa st  lu pine_ 8 5 is w orkin g th ro ug h  th e issue s  n o w  weha ve  thi s c on versa tion inthis fo rum
<gese r>l upin e_ 85 : yes
< tsmithe> lupi ne _85, yep
< sa bdf l> myp o int is t hat we should not say " g o elsew her e til l yo u solve t hos e issu es" * ajmi tch is  goin gtol e ave,s e eyou  t omorrow
<s i s tpo ty> c ya  ajm itch
<s abdfl> we should s a y " stay here, we  wi ll h e l pyou fi x  th es e  is s u es"
<tsmithe> b ye ajmitch  < To adstool> c y a a jm itch 
< LaserJo ck> s a bdfl: y es, becau se you we nt  to# b ery l-dev andgot them 
 the_best we_can with the resources_we have
<sabdfl>_look_at beryl_-_they set up_their own repo_and when the packages_reached the point_where_they could go into universe, we weren't around to notice
<sistpoty> no, actually I've been_thinking_about experimental_myself_already,_that'd defintely be a great_thing to have
<sistpoty> (what was_my no_aimed at?)
<lupine_85> Question -- should there be a_blank_changelog for these_new packages?
<sabdfl> ok, i thinkwe are all coming round_to the idea of a place_to host packages-under-development
<LaserJock>_sabdfl:_this_is were I disagree_though, we uploaded their packages
<lupine_85> Or_should it be a continuation of_the currently-existing changelog?
<sabdfl> what's important to me,_is that this remains the FORUM_for those developers and users
<Lure>_sabdfl: but_accepting them in universe with_license issues is_not an_option, agreed?
<gnomefreak> lupine_85:_i would start clean but im_no motu
<sabdfl> Lure:_agreed
<sabdfl> but if they were working_here,_those issues would_be_fixed_much faster
<lupine_85>_gnomefreak: that was_my_thought too
<lupine_85>_0.2.1-0ubuntu1,_I assume
<LaserJock> sabdfl: and they were_welcome_to
<sabdfl> look how fast lupine_85 is working_through the issues now_we_have this conversation in_this forum
<geser> lupine_85: yes
<tsmithe> lupine_85,_yep
<sabdfl> my point is that we_should not_say "go_elsewhere till you solve those issues"
* ajmitch is going to leave,_see you tomorrow
<sistpoty> cya ajmitch
<sabdfl> we_should say "stay here,_we will_help_you fix these_issues"
<tsmithe>_bye ajmitch_
<Toadstool> cya ajmitch 
<LaserJock> sabdfl: yes, because_you went_to #beryl-dev and got them