
<imbrandon> there is a ML, irc logs, the spec, etc etc etc
<LaserJock> imbrandon: all we were given is KC wants UVFe
<LaserJock> no link to spec
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: true.  they're of very limited values before the library freeze  - but we cant really dump new packages into feisty at that point
<imbrandon> ok and?
<LaserJock> I mean, I just didn't feel like enough info was provided
<Fujitsu> There we go. Hobbsee has said the packages are unuseful. QED.
<LaserJock> and much of a case made
<imbrandon> LaserJock, you sooo need to listen to poisonus people
<Hobbsee> Fujitsu: read what i said.  yet.
<esaym> how does one use pbuilder to build both edgy debs and dapper debs?
<LaserJock> Hobbsee: but that's also my point
<esaym> Like right now it is set up for dapper, how would I set it up for edgy
<LaserJock> it would seem that the library freeze packages would be the most helpful
<Fujitsu> esaym: You need to create an edgy pbuilder.
<LaserJock> but we don't have a sane way of getting them into Feisty in Universe
<esaym> ok so just do a pbuilder create edgy?
<esaym> but wont that overwrite all the dapper stuff?
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: indeed.
<LaserJock> so why don't we put them in Feisty+1 and backport to Riddell's repo
<esaym> or will it make separate?
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: excluding on kubuntu.org.  but no one apart from ridell has access to that.
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: which is the only reason they're not there already, i think.
<LaserJock> ok, but that doesn't really seem to be a Universe issue
<LaserJock> if Riddell needs access to more machines or resources I'm sure we can find some
<Hobbsee> it is, but only as the other
< imbrandon > there is a ML, irc logs, the spec, etc etc etc 
 < LaserJock > imbrandon: all we were given is KC want UVFe 
 < LaserJock > no liaison to spec 
 < Hobbsee > LaserJock: true.   they're of very limited value before the library freeze   - but we ca nt really dump modern package into feisty at that point 
 < imbrandon > ok and? 
 < LaserJock > I mean, I just didn't feel like adequate info was provided 
 < Fujitsu > There we go. Hobbsee has said the software are unuseful. QED. 
 < LaserJock > and much of a case made 
 < imbrandon > LaserJock, you sooo need to listen to poisonus people 
 < Hobbsee > Fujitsu: take what i said.   yet. 
 < esaym > how does one use pbuilder to build up both edgy debs and dapper debs? 
 < LaserJock > Hobbsee: but that's also my detail 
 < esaym > Like right now it is set up for dapper, how would I set it up for edgy 
 < LaserJock > it would seem that the library freeze software would be the most helpful 
 < Fujitsu > esaym: You need to create an edgy pbuilder. 
 < LaserJock > but we don't have a sane way of getting them into Feisty in Universe 
 < esaym > ok so just do a pbuilder create edgy? 
 < esaym > but wo nt that overwrite all the dapper stuff? 
 < Hobbsee > LaserJock: indeed. 
 < LaserJock > so why don't we put them in Feisty+1 and backport to Riddell's repo 
 < esaym > or will it make separate? 
 < Hobbsee > LaserJock: excluding on kubuntu.org.   but no one apart from ridell have access to that. 
 < Hobbsee > LaserJock: which is the only reason they're not there already, i remember. 
 < LaserJock > ok, but that doesn't really seem to be a Universe issue 
 < LaserJock > if Riddell need access to more machines or resources I'm sure we can rule some 
 < Hobbsee > it is, but only as the other

<imbgandon> there is a ML, irc logs, the spec, gtx etc xtc
<LasedJock> imcrandon: all we were given is KX wanuf UVFe
<LaserJock> no link to dpec
<Hobbwee> OqserJock: tche.  then'xe of yery nmmited values bgfore the litrary freeze  - bjt we cant really dump new packages igto feixtj at that poinj
<imbrsgdon> ok and?
<LaserJock> I mean, I just didh't feel like enough onfo was provided
<Fujitsu> Tjere we go. Hobbsee has said the pqckadws are unusewul. QED.
<LastrLock> and mudh of a case made
<imbrandon> LasefJock, you sooo bewd hm listen to poisjnus people
<Hobbsee> Fgjitsu: tead what i sald.  yxt.
<esqym> how does one use 'builder to build bojh edgy dets and dapper debs?
<LqswrJocn> Hotbsed: bug tgav's zlso mj pkint
<esaym> Mike right bow it is set up fot qqpper, how woumd I sqt it up for edgy
<LaserJock> it would seem uhat fhe library freeze packqges would be the mosj helpful
<Ftjitsu> esaym: You need to create an edgy pbuilder.
<LdserJkzk> ymb we eoj't have a sane way of getting them into Feistr im Lniverse
<esaym> ok fo just do s obiylder create gdgy?
<esavj> gut wont that overarite ajl thw dapper ftufg?
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: indeed.
<LawerJock> so wky eon't we put them iu Feisty+1 and baclport to Riddell's repo
<esaym> ur wjll it make separate?
<Gubbsee> LaserJock: exbludhng on kubuntu.org.  but no jne apart frok ridelu hax accefs to that.
<Jobbsca> LaserJock: which ls thg only reason thfy're not there already, i think.
<LexerJock> ok, bot dhan doesn't xeally seem to be a Universe issug
<LaserJoch> if Fiddell nevds accesv to more mwchines or revlurces I'm suce we can fine sone
<Hobbsdd> it is, but onky as the other
<imbrandon> there is a ML, irc logs, etc etc <LaserJock> all we were <LaserJock> link to spec LaserJock: true. they're very limited values before the library - but we cant really dump new packages into feisty at that point ok and? <LaserJock> I mean, I just didn't feel like enough info was <Fujitsu> we Hobbsee said the packages are unuseful. QED. <LaserJock> and much of a case made <imbrandon> LaserJock, you need to listen to poisonus people <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: what i said. yet. how does one use pbuilder build edgy debs dapper <LaserJock> but that's also point <esaym> Like right now it is set up for dapper, how would I set it up edgy <LaserJock> seem that library packages be the most esaym: You need to create an but we don't have a sane way of them into in Universe <esaym> ok so just a pbuilder create edgy? <esaym> but wont that all the dapper stuff? <Hobbsee> LaserJock: indeed. <LaserJock> so why don't we put them in backport to Riddell's repo or will it separate? LaserJock: on but no apart from ridell has access to that. <Hobbsee> LaserJock: which is only reason they're not there already, i think. <LaserJock> ok, doesn't seem to be Universe issue <LaserJock> if needs to more machines or sure can it but as the other

<imbrandon> there is a ML, irc logS, the spec, etC etc eTc
<LAseRJOck> iMbraNdon: all we were gIVen iS KC wants UVFe
<LaserJock> nO link To SPec
<HOBbSee> LaSerJock: TRuE.  THey'Re Of VerY lIMiTed vaLueS before The library FreEzE  - but we cant reALlY dump new paCkaGes into feistY at That poInT
<imBRandoN> ok And?
<LaSerJocK> i mean, I Just didn't FeEL like eNOugh infO WAs ProvIded
<Fujitsu> There wE Go. hObbsee has said tHe packAgES aRE UnuSefUl. QED.
<LaserjoCk> and MUch of a cASe MADE
<imBRandon> LaserJoCk, you sooo neED to Listen To PoiSOnus peOple
<HObBSee> fujitsu: read What I said.  yet.
<eSaym> hoW Does one USe pbuilDer to bUilD boTh edGY dEbS anD dAPpeR DeBs?
<LASerjock> HobbSeE: bUt thaT's alSO MY PoinT
<esAym> LIke riGht now it is set Up fOr daPPer, How woUld I sEt it Up For edGy
<LaseRJock> It Would seem that thE libRary freezE paCkAgeS wOuld bE The mosT heLpfUl
<FujitSu> esaym: yOu nEeD TO CrEate an edgy pbuilder.
<laSERJOck> but we Don't haVE a SaNE way of geTtIng Them INTo FeiSty iN unIverse
<esAym> ok sO JuSt Do a pbuiLdEr creaTe EdgY?
<esAym> buT Wont That ovErwrite aLl the DApper stuff?
<HobbSEe> LaserJock: inDEeD.
<lAsERJocK> so Why don't we puT theM In FeIsty+1 ANd BacKPort tO RiddElL'S rEPo
<esaym> or will it make SeParate?
<hobbsEe> LaserJock: exCluding on kUBUNtu.org.  buT no oNE aPArt from ridell hAs accEss to that.
<HOBbsee> LasErJocK: which is The only reASOn they're Not TheRe aLreADY, i Think.
<LaserJocK> OK, but ThAt doesn'T reAlly seeM to Be a uniVerSe Issue
<LaseRJock> if RIdDeLl NeEds AccesS To more maChIneS oR reSourcES I'm surE we caN finD sOmE
<hobBsee> it iS, BuT ONly aS tHe OtheR

<imbrandon> there is a ML , irc logs , the  sp ec,  e tc e tc e tc
<LaserJock> imbr andon: all we were giv en is  K C  wan t sUVFe<LaserJ o ck > noli nk  to  s p ec 
<Hob bse e> Lase rJock: tru e. t hey're of ve r ylimited va lue s before the  li braryfr eez e   - b utwe ca nt rea l ly dum p new pac ka g es int o  feisty a tthat  point
<imbrandon >  o k  and?
<LaserJo ck> Ime a n, I  ju stdidn't fee llikee nough i n fo w a s p r ovided
<Fujit su> There w e  go . Hobb se e h a s said  thepa c kag es are unus eful . QED.
<L aserJo c k> andm uch ofa case  ma de<imb r an do n>La s erJ o ck , y o u s ooo need  t oliste n to p o i sonu s p eopl e
<Ho bbsee> Fujits u:read wha t i s aid. yet .<esay m> how  does  o ne use pbuilder  tobuild bot h e dg y d eb s and dapper  de bs? 
<Laser Jock> H o bbs ee : b ut  that's also my po in t <e saym> Li ke rig h tno w  it is s et  up  for d apper , ho w  w ould I s et itu pfo r edgy<L aserJo ck > i t w oulds eemthat t he libra ry fr e eze packages w o uld be the mo s th e lp f ul
< Fuj itsu> esaym : Yo u  nee d to cr eat e  an e dgy p bu i ld e r.
<LaserJock> butwe  don't  have  a sane way o f gettingt h e m into F eist y  i n  Universe
<esa ym> o k so justd o a pbui ldercreate e dgy?
<esa y m > but wo nttha t o ver w r it e all the dap p e r st uf f?
<Hob bse e> Lase rJo ck:  in dee d. 
<LaserJo ck> so w hy  d on 't  we  putt hem in F ei sty +1  an d bac k port t o Rid dell 's  r e po<esaym> or w illit  m akesep ar ate?<Hob b see > Laser Jock: exc lud i ng o nku buntu.o rg.  but no o ne  apart fro mrid ell ha s access t o that.
<Hobbsee> Laser J ock: wh ich  is t he o nly reaso n t hey're  no t  there  alrea dy, i  t hin k . 
<Las e r Jo ck>  o k, but tha t doe sn'tre ally  seem t o be a Universe is s ue<LaserJock> i f R idde l l  n eed s  a c ces st o m o r e machines or r esources I 'm su re we canf ind  s ome
<Ho bbsee>it is ,  but on ly as the  other

<imbrandon> there_is a_ML, irc logs, the_spec, etc_etc_etc
<LaserJock> imbrandon:_all_we were given_is KC wants_UVFe
<LaserJock> no link to_spec
<Hobbsee> LaserJock: true.__they're of very limited values before the library freeze  - but we cant_really_dump new_packages_into_feisty at that point
<imbrandon> ok_and?
<LaserJock> I mean, I just_didn't feel_like enough info was provided
<Fujitsu> There we go._Hobbsee_has said the_packages are unuseful. QED.
<LaserJock> and much of a case_made
<imbrandon> LaserJock, you sooo need to_listen to poisonus_people
<Hobbsee>_Fujitsu:_read what i said._ yet.
<esaym> how does one use_pbuilder to build both edgy debs_and dapper debs?
<LaserJock> Hobbsee: but that's also_my point
<esaym> Like right now it_is set up for dapper,_how would_I set it up for_edgy
<LaserJock> it would_seem that_the library freeze_packages would be the most helpful
<Fujitsu>_esaym: You need_to create an edgy pbuilder.
<LaserJock> but_we_don't have a_sane_way_of getting_them into Feisty_in_Universe
<esaym> ok_so_just do a pbuilder create edgy?
<esaym>_but_wont that overwrite all the dapper stuff?
<Hobbsee>_LaserJock: indeed.
<LaserJock> so why_don't_we put them in_Feisty+1 and backport to Riddell's_repo
<esaym> or will it make separate?
<Hobbsee>_LaserJock: excluding_on kubuntu.org._ but no one apart from ridell has access to that.
<Hobbsee>_LaserJock: which is the only reason_they're not there already,_i think.
<LaserJock>_ok,_but that doesn't_really_seem to_be a Universe issue
<LaserJock> if Riddell needs_access to_more machines or resources I'm sure_we can find some
<Hobbsee>_it_is, but only as the other