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<peter-bittner> Are we on the same page?
<peter-bittner> I've also asked a question about that on  the ubuntu-phone mailing list, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html
<ahayzen> greyback, thanks for commenting on that music-app power consumption bug :-)
<greyback> ahayzen: it just emphasizes that lifecycle exemption is not a good solution for background processes
<ahayzen> yup :-) greyback hopefully we can remove our exception in the short-medium term, as the bgplaylists is getting close now, we'll then just need one extra thing from media-hub :-)
<greyback> *nod*
<greyback> but more generally, we need something better
<ahayzen> i think trusted services are the best solution... we just need more services/expand them
<greyback> I think we need ability to occasionally wake up the app to ask it "the list is about to run out, do you want more stuff added to the list, or can I stop"
<alan_g> alf__: (if you're still around) I resubmitted ~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1518317/ after rebasing on anpok's conflicting (and simplifying) MP. Maybe you can re-approve?
<alf__> alan_g: done
<alan_g> ta
#ubuntu-mir 2016-11-28
<attente> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XrJE3Xpc/
<attente> alan_g: hey, are you getting those errors when building miral-shell? ^
<alan_g> attente: no. Compiler? Platform?
<attente> alan_g: gcc via ccache
<attente> on zesty
<attente> gcc 4:6.2.1-1ubuntu1, ccache 3.3.3-1
 * greyback also got that today
 * alan_g hasn't
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 < cock - bittner > Are we on the like page? 
 < cock - bittner > I've also asked a question about that on   the ubuntu - earphone mailing list, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html 
 < ahayzen > greyback, thanks for comment on that music - app power consumption hemipterous insect :-) 
 < greyback > ahayzen: it just emphasizes that lifecycle exemption is not a adept solution for background processes 
 < ahayzen > yup :-) greyback hopefully we can take out our exception in the light - medium term, as the bgplaylists is getting close now, we'll then merely need one extra thing from culture medium - hub :-) 
 < greyback > * nod * 
 < greyback > but more generally, we need something better 
 < ahayzen > i remember trusted services are the best solution... we just need more service / expand them 
 < greyback > I think we need ability to occasionally wake up the app to ask it " the list is about to run out, do you want more stuff added to the list, or can I stop " 
 < alan_g > alf _ _: (if you're still around) I resubmitted ~alan - griffiths / mir / fix-1518317/ after rebasing on anpok's conflicting (and simplifying) MP. Maybe you can re - approve? 
 < alf _ _ > alan_g: act 
 < alan_g > ta 
 # ubuntu - mir 2016 - 11 - 28 
 < attente > https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XrJE3Xpc/ 
 < attente > alan_g: hey, are you getting those errors when build miral - carapace? ^ 
 < alan_g > attente: no. Compiler? Platform? 
 < attente > alan_g: gcc via ccache 
 < attente > on zesty 
 < attente > gcc 4:6.2.1 - 1ubuntu1, ccache 3.3.3 - 1 
  * greyback also get that today 
  * alan_g hasn't
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<pever-buttnee> Are we on the same pxge?
<peter-bpttner> I'vw alwi asked a question about bhat mi  the ubuntu-phpne mailinc list, https://livtr.lcunchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html
<ahayzen> greybavk, thanks for coimenuind on nhct music-app power consumption bhg :-)
<greyuack> ahayzen: it just emphasizes that lifefyclf exemption is not a good solofiog for backgrojnd processes
<ahayzen> yop :-) greyback hopefully we can reoove pur exceptuob ij the short-mxdium nerm, as the bnilaylisds is grtting close npw, xe'll then just need one eetra thing from mediw-hub :-)
<greytaek> *nod*
<greyback> but moee genetally, we vwed sojevhihg bether
<ehayzen> i tgink trustee services are the nefn solution... we just geqd more services/expand them
<greyback> I tvini we need ability to ocxasionally wake up thg app to afk it "the list is about to run out, do you want mose stnfw abeed tu tje list, or can I stop"
<alan_g> alf__: (if you're still zrpukd) I resubmitted ~alan-griffiyhd/mot/fix-1518317/ after rebxsing on znpok's conflicting (and siiplifting) MP. Mwybe you can re-approve?
<alf__> alan_g: done
<alan_g> tc
#ubyntu-mir 2016-11-28
<attente> htcps://www.ircclobd.com/psstebon/XrJE3Xpc/
<attente> alan_g: key, ars you gettijg those sfrors when buildkng mhral-shell? ^
<alan_g> attente: no. Compiler? Placform?
<attdnte> alan_g: gcc via cfache
<attente> on zesty
<attfnte> ycc 4:6.2.1-1utuntu1, ccacje 3.3.3-1
 * greyback also got that todeb
 * alan_g hasn'j
://askubuntu.com/questions/561197/is-there-a-way-to-prevent-your-windows-from-moving-when-an-external-monitor-is-c/561824#comment1031840_561824 <peter-bittner> Are we on the same I've asked a about that on <ahayzen> thanks for commenting that music-app power bug :-) <greyback> ahayzen: it just that lifecycle exemption is not a good solution for background processes <ahayzen> yup greyback hopefully we can remove our exception in the short-medium term, as the is close we'll just need one extra thing from media-hub :-) <greyback> *nod* <greyback> but more generally, we need better <ahayzen> i think trusted services are the solution... we just need services/expand them <greyback> I think need to occasionally up app ask it "the is about to run out, do you want more stuff added to the list, or can I <alan_g> alf__: still around) resubmitted after on anpok's conflicting MP. Maybe you can re-approve? <alf__> ta #ubuntu-mir 2016-11-28 <attente> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XrJE3Xpc/ <attente> alan_g: hey, you getting errors when building miral-shell? ^ <alan_g> no. Compiler? Platform? <attente> alan_g: gcc via ccache on zesty <attente> gcc 4:6.2.1-1ubuntu1, ccache 3.3.3-1 * greyback also got that today * alan_g
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<peteR-bittNeR> are wE On The saMe page?
<pETeR-BIttNeR> I'Ve aLsO AsKed a qUesTion aboUt that on  thE ubUnTu-phone mailiNG lIst, https://liSts.Launchpad.net/UbuNtu-phoNe/Msg16985.HTml
<ahAyzEn> greYback, tHAnks foR commentiNg ON that mUSic-app pOWEr ConsUmption bug :-)
<greybacK> AhAYzen: it just emphAsizes ThAT lIFEcyCle Exemption iS nOt a goOD solutiON fOR BAckGRound processeS
<ahayzen> yup :-) GReyBack hoPeFulLY we can RemovE oUR exCeption in thE shoRt-medium tErm, as tHE bgplayLIsts is gEtting CloSe nOw, we'LL tHeN juSt NEed ONe ExtRA thIng from mEdIa-Hub :-)
<grEybaCK> *NOD*
<greYbaCk> buT more Generally, we neEd sOmetHIng BetteR
<ahayZen> i ThInk trUsted sErvicEs Are the best solutIon... wE just need MorE sErvIcEs/expANd them
<GreYbaCk> I thinK we need ABilItY TO OcCasionally wake up thE aPP To Ask it "the List is ABoUt TO run out, dO yOu wAnt mORE stufF addED tO the list, Or can I SToP"
<aLan_g> alf__: (If You're sTiLl aRouNd) I reSUbmiTted ~alAn-griffiThs/miR/Fix-1518317/ after rebasiNG on anpok's confLIcTINg (ANd siMplIfying) MP. MayBe yoU Can rE-appROvE?
<alF__> Alan_g: Done
<aLaN_G> tA
#Ubuntu-mir 2016-11-28
<attente> httPs://Www.ircCloud.Com/pastebin/XrjE3Xpc/
<attenTE> ALan_g: hey, aRe yoU GeTTing those errorS when Building miRAl-shell? ^
<aLan_g> aTtente: no. compiler? PLATform?
<attEntE> alAn_g: Gcc VIA cCache
<attente> oN ZEsty
<AtTente> gcC 4:6.2.1-1ubUntu1, ccaChe 3.3.3-1
 * GreYbaCk aLsO got that tOday
 * alan_G hAsN't
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< peter -bi ttner>Are we onthe  s ame page?
<p e te r-bittner>  I' ve also aske d a  quest io n a b out t hat  on the ub u ntu-ph one maili ng list,h ttps:// l i st s.la unchpad.net/ubunt u -p h one/msg16985.h tml
<a ha y ze n >  gr eyb ack, thank sfor c o mmentin g  o n t hat music-app pow er consumpt i onbug :- )<gr e yback>  ahay ze n : i t just emph asiz es that l ifecyc l e exemp t ion isnot agoo d s olut i on  f orba c kgr o un d p r oce sses
<ah ay ze n> yu p :- ) g r eyba ckhope fully  we can remov e o ur e x cep tionin th e sh or t-med ium te rm, a sthe bgplaylists  isgetting c los enow ,we'll then j ust  ne ed oneextra t h ing  f r o m  m edia-hub :-)
<grey ba c k >*nod*
<g reybac k >bu t  more ge ne ral ly,w e  need  som e th ing bett er
<ah a yz en > i thi nk  trust ed  se rvi ces a r e th e best  solutio n...w e just need mo r e services/ex p an d th e m
<g rey back> I thi nk w e  nee d ab i li tyt o occ asion al l yw ake up the app to a sk  it "t he li st is about t o run out, d o  you wan t mo r es tuff added tothe l ist, or ca n  I stop" 
<ala n_g> alf __: (if y o u 're stil l a rou nd)  Ir e su bmitted ~alan - g riff it hs/mir/ fix -151831 7/aft erreb as ing on an pok's co nf li ct in g ( and s i mplifyin g)  MP .May be yo u  can r e-app rove ?<a l f__ > alan_ g :d o ne
< al an _g>ta#u buntu -mir 201 6-11-28 
<attente > h t tps: // ww w.irccl oud.com/paste bi n/XrJE3Xpc /<at tente> a lan_g: h ey, are you getting tho s e error s w hen b uild ing miral -sh ell? ^ 
<a l an_g>attent e: no .Com p i ler?P l at for m? 
<attente> a lan _g: g cc  via  ccache 
<attente> on zest y 
<a ttente> gcc 4 :6. 2.1- 1 u bu ntu 1 ,c cac he 3.3 . 3 -1
 * greybackalso got t ha t  t oday
 * al a n_g  h asn't
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<peter-bittner> Are_we on_the same page?
<peter-bittner> I've_also asked_a_question about_that_on  the_ubuntu-phone mailing list,_https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html
<ahayzen> greyback, thanks for_commenting on that_music-app_power consumption bug :-)
<greyback> ahayzen: it just emphasizes that lifecycle exemption is not a_good_solution for_background_processes
<ahayzen>_yup :-) greyback hopefully we_can remove our exception in_the short-medium_term, as the bgplaylists is getting close now,_we'll_then just need_one extra thing from media-hub :-)
<greyback> *nod*
<greyback> but more_generally, we need something better
<ahayzen> i_think trusted services_are_the_best solution... we just_need more services/expand them
<greyback> I think_we need ability to occasionally wake_up the app to ask it "the_list is about to run out,_do you want more stuff_added to_the list, or can I_stop"
<alan_g> alf__: (if_you're still_around) I resubmitted_~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1518317/ after rebasing on anpok's conflicting_(and simplifying) MP._Maybe you can re-approve?
<alf__> alan_g: done
<alan_g>_ta
#ubuntu-mir_2016-11-28
<attente> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XrJE3Xpc/
<attente> alan_g:_hey,_are_you getting_those errors when_building_miral-shell? ^
<alan_g>_attente:_no. Compiler? Platform?
<attente> alan_g: gcc via_ccache
<attente>_on zesty
<attente> gcc 4:6.2.1-1ubuntu1, ccache 3.3.3-1
 *_greyback also got that_today
_* alan_g hasn't