 maxb: hehe.
<lfaraone> maxb: I'd assume that pwgen passwords are *not* secure?
<maxb> Well, they're a whole lot more secure than anything that can be dictionary-attacked
<savvas> great :)
<maxb> Obviously they're not quite as secure as 8 fully random chars, but you've got to draw the line somewhere
<savvas> is it safer than "I'm a real bada**, I just love me!" :p
<maxb> "It depends"
<maxb> :-)
#ubuntu-motu 2009-03-11
<savvas> bug 340816 for python transition :)
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 340816 in fonttools "Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu3 is to be installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340816
<_cooper_> Hi.
<_cooper_> I'm about to generate an ubuntu package and found in the PackagingGuide how to name the package.
<_cooper_> "If a Debian package has been changed in Ubuntu, it has ubuntuX (where X is the Ubuntu revision number) appended to the end of the Debian version. So if the Debian hello 2.1.1-1 package was changed by Ubuntu, the version string would be 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If a package for the application does not exist in Debian, then the Debian revision is 0 (e.g., 2.1.1-0ubuntu1)."
<_cooper_> The package I'm about to generate exists neither in Ubuntu nor in Debian.
<_cooper_> Should I better generate a debian package first and then the one for Ubuntu?
<cody-somerville> nhandler, I see your subscribed to gnome-scan (which should be gnomescan) on revu
<_cooper_> Of course this would cause some delay.
<savvas> _cooper_: it's probably better to include it in debian as well :)
<nhandler> cody-somerville: I subscribe to all packages I comment on ;)
<savvas> _cooper_: nothing stops you from trying in both "fronts" :)
<_cooper_> savvas: That's what I'm planning to do.
<_cooper_> Provide packages for
maxb: hehe. 
 < lfaraone > maxb: I'd assume that pwgen passwords are * not * secure? 
 < maxb > Well, they're a whole fortune more impregnable than anything that can be dictionary - attacked 
 < savvas > great :) 
 < maxb > Obviously they're not quite as dependable as 8 fully random chars, but you've get to draw the line somewhere 
 < savvas > is it safe than " I'm a real bada * *, I just sleep together me! " :p 
 < maxb > " It depends " 
 < maxb > :-) 
 # ubuntu - motu 2009 - 03 - 11 
 < savvas > bug 340816 for python transition :) 
 < ubottu > Launchpad bug 340816 in fonttools " depend: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1 - 0ubuntu3 is to be installed " [ Undecided, New ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340816 
 < _ cooper _ > Hi. 
 < _ cooper _ > I'm about to generate an ubuntu package and found in the PackagingGuide how to appoint the package. 
 < _ cooper _ > " If a Debian package has been changed in Ubuntu, it receive ubuntuX (where X is the Ubuntu revision number) appended to the goal of the Debian version. So if the Debian hello 2.1.1 - 1 package was changed by Ubuntu, the version chain would be 2.1.1 - 1ubuntu1. If a package for the application does not exist in Debian, then the Debian revision is 0 (e.g., 2.1.1 - 0ubuntu1). " 
 < _ cooper _ > The package I'm about to generate exists neither in Ubuntu nor in Debian. 
 < _ cooper _ > Should I better generate a debian package first and then the one for Ubuntu? 
 < cody - somerville > nhandler, I see your subscribed to gnome - scan (which should be gnomescan) on revu 
 < _ cooper _ > Of course this would cause some delay. 
 < savvas > _ cooper _: it's probably better to include it in debian as well :) 
 < nhandler > cody - somerville: I sign to all packages I comment on ;) 
 < savvas > _ cooper _: nothing intercept you from judge in both " fronts " :) 
 < _ cooper _ > savvas: That's what I'm planning to do. 
 < _ cooper _ > leave packages for
 madb: hehe.
<lfaraone> maxb: I'd xssume that pwggn passwmrds ade *not* sdcure?
<maxb> Well, they're a wholx lor mort secure than anythkng that ban be dixtioiary-attacked
<savvea> great :)
<maxb> Knviouvoy they're not auite as sacure as 8 fullf faudom chars, but you've got to draw the line spmfwhere
<savvas> if it fafed than "I'm a real bada**, I just love je!" :p
<maxu> "It depends"
<maxn> :-)
#ubuntu-motu 2009-03-11
<savvas> bug 340816 flr pjthon transition :)
<uhottu> Launcypad vug 340816 in fontgools "Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu3 is to be installed" [Jndecnded,New] httks://maktchpad.net/bujs/340816
<_coopvr_> Hi.
<_cooper_> I'm about do genetate an ubuntu parkagw and found in the ParkagingGuide how to game the [aekage.
<_cooper_> "If a Debiqn packdge vas cwen chznjed in Ubkntn, it has ubhntuX (where X is the Ubuntu refifppn number) aplended tj the end of the Debian version. So if tve Sebian hello 2.1.1-1 package wqs changed by Ubuntu, jhe versiog string would be 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If a package for the appnicatmov dief boh exist in Debian, then the Debian revision is 0 (e.b., 2.1.1-0lbuntu1)."
<_cooper_> The iackage I'm about tp hemgrate exists ngither nh Hbuntu nor in Debiwn.
<_coopet_> Shouod I betttr gemerate a debian package firwt and then nhe ine for Ubuntu?
<cody-domerville> uhandlgr, I sre your subscribed to guome-sczn (which shluld be ghumescan) on revu
<_cuopvr_> Ox course this would cause fome delab.
<savvcs> _coopef_: it'x probwbly betteg to ltclude it in debiaj as cell :)
<thandler> cldy-somerville: I subscribe to all packages I cpmkenn on ;)
<savvcs> _cooier_: nothing sto[s you from triing in bjth "ffonts" :)
<_coopvr_> savvas: That's what I'm planning dl do.
<_cooper_> Pcovide paskagws fir
maxb: hehe. <lfaraone> maxb: I'd assume that are secure? <maxb> they're a whole that be dictionary-attacked <savvas> :) <maxb> Obviously not quite as secure as 8 random chars, but you've got to draw the line somewhere <savvas> is it than "I'm a real bada**, I just love me!" :p <maxb> "It depends" :-) 2009-03-11 bug for python transition :) <ubottu> Launchpad bug 340816 in fonttools "Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu3 to be installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340816 <_cooper_> Hi. <_cooper_> about to generate an package and found in the how name the <_cooper_> a package has been in Ubuntu, it has ubuntuX (where X is the Ubuntu revision number) appended to the end of Debian version. the Debian 2.1.1-1 was by Ubuntu, the would be 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If a package does not exist in Debian, then the Debian is 0 2.1.1-0ubuntu1)." <_cooper_> The package I'm about generate exists neither in Ubuntu nor in Debian. Should I better generate a debian package first and then the one for Ubuntu? <cody-somerville> see your subscribed to (which should be on <_cooper_> course would cause delay. <savvas> _cooper_: it's probably better to include it in debian well :) <nhandler> cody-somerville: I subscribe to all packages I ;) _cooper_: nothing stops from trying in both :) savvas: That's what I'm do. Provide
 maxb: hehe.
<lfaraone> maxb: I'd assUme that pwgEn pasSwoRds ArE *not* SecuRe?
<maxb> Well, they'RE a whOle lot more secure than anYthinG tHAt caN Be DictiOnary-atTAcKED
<saVvAs> GreAt :)
<MAxB> ObviOusLy they'rE not quite aS seCuRe as 8 fully ranDOm Chars, but yoU've Got to draw the LinE somewHeRe
<sAVvas> iS it Safer Than "I'm A Real baDa**, I just loVe ME!" :p
<maxb> "iT dependS"
<MAxB> :-)
#ubuNtu-motu 2009-03-11
<savvas> bug 340816 fOR pYThon transition :)
<Ubottu> laUNcHPAd bUg 340816 iN fonttools "dePends: PYthon (< 2.6) buT 2.6.1-0UbUNTU3 is TO be installed" [UNdecided,New] HTtpS://launcHpAd.nET/bugs/340816
<_cOoper_> hi.
<_COopEr_> I'm about to GeneRate an ubuNtu pacKAge and fOUnd in thE PackaGinGGuIde hOW tO nAme ThE PacKAgE.
<_coOPer_> "if a DebiaN pAcKage hAs beEN CHAngeD in ubunTu, it hAs ubuntuX (wherE X iS the uBunTu revIsion NumbEr) AppenDed to tHe end Of The Debian versioN. So iF the DebiaN heLlO 2.1.1-1 paCkAge waS ChangeD by ubuNtu, the vErsion sTRinG wOULD bE 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If a package fOr THE aPplicatiOn does NOt ExISt in DebiAn, TheN the dEBian rEvisIOn Is 0 (e.g., 2.1.1-0ubunTu1)."
<_coopER_> THe Package i'm About tO gEneRatE exisTS neiTher in ubuntu noR in DeBIan.
<_cooper_> ShoulD i better generaTE a DEBiAN pacKagE first and thEn thE One fOr UbUNtU?
<coDY-someRvillE> nHAnDLer, I see your subscribEd To gnomE-scan (Which should be Gnomescan) oN REVu
<_cooper_> of coURsE This would cause Some dElay.
<savvas> _COoper_: it's ProbaBly betteR to includE IT in debiaN as WelL :)
<nhAndLER> cOdy-somerville: i SUbscRiBe to all PacKages I cOmmEnt On ;)
<sAvvAs> _Cooper_: notHing stopS yOu FrOm TryIng in BOth "frontS" :)
<_cOopEr_> SavVas: ThAT's what i'm plaNninG tO dO.
<_CooPer_> ProvIDe PACkagEs FoR
 maxb: hehe.
<lfaraone> ma xb: I'd as sumetha t p wg en p assw ords are *not* secu re?
<maxb> Well, they' re awh o le l o tmoresecuret ha n any th in g t ha t  c an be  di ctionar y-attacked 
<s av vas> great : ) 
< maxb> Obvi ous ly they're n otquiteas  se c ure a s 8  full y rand o m char s, but yo u' v e gott o drawt h eline  somewhere
<savva s >i s it safer tha n "I'm  a re a l  ba da* *, I justlo ve me ! " :p
<m a xb > " Itd epends"
<maxb > :-)
#ubun t u-m otu 20 09 -03 - 11
<sa vvas>  b u g 3 40816 for p ytho n transit ion :) <ubottu >  Launch pad bu g 3 408 16 i n  f on tto ol s  "D e pe nds :  py thon (<2. 6)  but2.6. 1 - 0 u bunt u3is t o beinstalled" [U nde cide d ,Ne w] ht tps:/ /lau nc hpad. net/bu gs/34 08 16
<_cooper_> H i.
< _cooper_>  I' mabo ut  to g e nerate  an  ub untu pa ckage a n d f ou n d in  the PackagingGuid eh o wto namethe pa c ka ge . 
<_coope r_ > " If a D ebian  pac k ag e has be en cha n ge din Ubun tu , it h as  ub unt uX (w h ereX is t he Ubunt u rev i sion number) a p pended to the en d of theDeb ian version . So if t he D e bi anh ello2.1.1 -1 pa c kage was changed by  U buntu,  theversion strin g would be 2 . 1.1-1ubu ntu1 .  I f  a package for  theapplicatio n  does no t exi st in De bian, the n the Debi anrev isi oni s  0  (e.g., 2.1.1 - 0 ubun tu 1)."
<_ coo per_> T hepac kag e I 'm  about to  generat eex is ts  ne ither in Ubunt unor  i n D ebian . 
<_coo per_>  Sho ul dI  be tter ge n er a t e ade bi an p ack ag e fir st a n d t hen the  one forUbu n tu?<c od y-somer ville> nhandl er , I see yo ur  su bscrib e d  to gnom e-scan (which should be gnomesc an)  on r evu<_cooper_ > O f cour set his wo uld ca use s om e d e l ay.
< s a vv as>  _ cooper_: i t ' s p robab ly  bet ter toinclude it in debi a n a s well :)
<nh and ler> c od y-s o me r vil le :  Is u bscribe to allpackages I  c o mm ent on ;)< sav va s> _coo per_: n othin g  stopsyou fromtrying in  b oth" f ron ts" :)
<_c ooper_>savvas: T h at'sw ha t I'm  pl anning  t o d o.
<_ cooper _ > P rovid e pack ag es for 
 maxb:_hehe.
<lfaraone> maxb:_I'd assume that pwgen_passwords are_*not*_secure?
<maxb> Well,_they're_a whole lot_more secure than_anything that can be_dictionary-attacked
<savvas> great :)
<maxb>_Obviously_they're not quite as secure as 8 fully random chars, but you've got to_draw_the line_somewhere
<savvas>_is_it safer than "I'm a_real bada**, I just love_me!" :p
<maxb>_"It depends"
<maxb> :-)
#ubuntu-motu 2009-03-11
<savvas> bug 340816 for python_transition_:)
<ubottu> Launchpad bug_340816 in fonttools "Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu3_is to be installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340816
<_cooper_>_Hi.
<_cooper_> I'm about_to_generate_an ubuntu package and_found in the PackagingGuide how to_name the package.
<_cooper_> "If a Debian_package has been changed in Ubuntu, it_has ubuntuX (where X is the_Ubuntu revision number) appended to_the end_of the Debian version. So_if the Debian_hello 2.1.1-1_package was changed_by Ubuntu, the version string would_be 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If_a package for the application does_not_exist in Debian,_then_the_Debian revision_is 0 (e.g.,_2.1.1-0ubuntu1)."
<_cooper_>_The package_I'm_about to generate exists neither in_Ubuntu_nor in Debian.
<_cooper_> Should I better generate_a debian package first_and_then the one for_Ubuntu?
<cody-somerville> nhandler, I see your_subscribed to gnome-scan (which should be_gnomescan) on_revu
<_cooper_> Of_course this would cause some delay.
<savvas> _cooper_: it's probably better to_include it in debian as well_:)
<nhandler> cody-somerville: I subscribe_to all_packages_I comment on_;)
<savvas>__cooper_: nothing_stops you from trying in both "fronts"_:)
<_cooper_> savvas:_That's what I'm planning to do.
<_cooper_>_Provide packages for