 which is what normal people use
<balloons> yep
<flocculant> balloons: yea totally understand - just giving the other opinion :)
<balloons> it's well said
<flocculant> the root owned iso really annoys me - ended up needing to keep seperate ones :)
 * flocculant has the headache from hell
<flocculant> again
<flocculant> cyphermox: so... virtual box - as much as I understand that you all use qemu and don't see the fail to remove the media issue - are we really going to release LTS with that issue? Given that the likelihood is that *normal* people would use something like virtualbox or vmware
<flocculant> bug 1510911 is the latest one of those - I've changed it from ubiquity to casper - but only because another one is casper
<ubot5> bug 1510911 in casper (Ubuntu) "After install completes, Xubuntu 16.04 hangs on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510911
<cyphermox> flocculant: well, I'm not sure what other steps we can take to get the CD to eject
<cyphermox> flocculant: is it just that or does Enter not work either?
<flocculant> I doubt if anything has changed since wily - so it just sits there - Enter does nothing, you have to kill the guest
<flocculant> if Enter at least did something that would be better than what there is
<dkessel> bug 1447038 affects me too
<ubot5> bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038
<flocculant> dkessel: it will
<flocculant> all of them will
<flocculant> cyphermox: I'm just bringing it up now at the beginning rather than the end of March next :p
<cyphermox> good plan ;)
<flocculant> cyphermox: if I need to "If you install with vbox (or whatever) it will fail to eject - kill the
which is what normal people use 
 < balloons > yep 
 < flocculant > balloons: yea wholly sympathize - merely giving the other impression :) 
 < balloons > it's well said 
 < flocculant > the etymon own iso really annoys me - ended up needing to keep seperate one :) 
  * flocculant has the headache from hell 
 < flocculant > again 
 < flocculant > cyphermox: then... virtual corner - as much as I sympathize that you all use qemu and don't determine the fail to get rid of the media issue - are we really start to release LTS with that issue? Given that the likelihood is that * normal * people would practice something like virtualbox or vmware 
 < flocculant > bug 1510911 is the late one of those - I've changed it from ubiquity to casper - but only because another one is casper 
 < ubot5 > bug 1510911 in casper (Ubuntu) " After install completes, Xubuntu 16.04 hang on reboot " [ Undecided, New ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510911 
 < cyphermox > flocculant: well, I'm not sure what other steps we can take to get the CD to eject 
 < cyphermox > flocculant: is it just that or does Enter not work either? 
 < flocculant > I doubt if anything has changed since wily - so it just sits there - Enter does nothing, you have to stamp out the guest 
 < flocculant > if Enter at least did something that would be well than what there be 
 < dkessel > bug 1447038 affects me too 
 < ubot5 > bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) " Shutdown / Restart of live school term guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare " [ High, Incomplete ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038 
 < flocculant > dkessel: it will 
 < flocculant > all of them will 
 < flocculant > cyphermox: I'm just institute it up now at the beginning rather than the end of March next :p 
 < cyphermox > good plan ;) 
 < flocculant > cyphermox: if I want to " If you install with vbox (or whatever) it will fail to eject - kill the
 whlch is what normal peoplt use
<balloons> yep
<yoocculent> balmoons: yex totally understand - just gmvint the other opinion :)
<balloonr> it's welp said
<fliccuoqnt> the root owned iso rswlly ennoys me - endec up needitg to keep separxtz ones :)
 * flocculant has the headache from hrlp
<flocculant> agwin
<fkjccumant> cyphermox: so... virtual box - as juch as I understand that you all use qemu and don'h see the fail to gemove the nediw issue - are de really going to relgase LTS with that issue? Given tfat tke likelihoid is jhat *normal* 'eople would use something like vortualbox or vkwace
<flicculant> bug 1510911 is the natest one of thosg - I've chatgzd it from ubiquity ti xaspet - bud onut bdcahsx ahother onx is casper
<hbot5> bug 1510911 ib casper (Ubuntu) "Afttr ybstall complefes, Xufugtu 16.04 hangs on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://nauhchpad.net/bugs/1510911
<cyphermox> dlocculant: well, I'm noj sure whae other steps we can take to get the CD to eject
<cfpherjux> yooccuuqnh: is it just that or does Enter not work eithqd?
<fkobculant> I doubt in anything has chamgfd fince wily - su it jbat sits there - Enter does njthint, you havt to lill the guest
<flocculant> if Enter at lecst did something thac would be bztter jhan wnat there is
<dkessel> bug 1447038 afrects me tol
<ubot5> bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntj) "Smutgown/Restart of live sessiog guest dies uot work in Firtuajbox or VMAare" [Mhgh,Incomplete] httpd://launehpad.tet/bugs/1447038
<flofculant> dkessel: it will
<flocculaiv> all of them whll
<xlocculaut> cypmermox: I'm just fringing it up now at the ceginning gather then the end os March next :[
<fyphermox> gomd plan ;)
<slocxulabt> cyphdfmox: if I need to "If yol nnstall wuth vbox (or whatevcr) it sill fail to ejzet - kill the
which is what normal people use <balloons> balloons: totally understand just giving the well <flocculant> the root iso really annoys - ended up needing to keep ones :) * flocculant has the headache from hell <flocculant> again <flocculant> cyphermox: virtual box - as much as I understand that you all use qemu don't the to the media issue - are we really going to release LTS with that issue? Given that likelihood is that *normal* people would use something virtualbox or vmware <flocculant> 1510911 is the latest one those I've changed from to - but only another one is casper <ubot5> bug 1510911 in casper (Ubuntu) "After install completes, Xubuntu 16.04 hangs on [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510911 well, I'm sure other we can take the CD to eject <cyphermox> flocculant: that or does Enter not work either? <flocculant> doubt if has changed since wily - so just sits there - Enter does nothing, you to kill the guest <flocculant> if Enter at least did something that would be better there is <dkessel> bug affects me too bug in (Ubuntu) of live guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038 <flocculant> it will <flocculant> all of them will <flocculant> cyphermox: I'm it now at the rather than the end March :p <cyphermox> good plan cyphermox: I you with (or whatever) it will to eject - kill the
 which is what normal people usE
<balloons> yEp
<floCcuLanT> bAlloOns: yEa totally underSTand - Just giving the other opinIon :)
<baLlOOns> iT'S wEll saId
<floccULaNT> The RoOt OwnEd ISo ReallY anNoys me - eNded up needIng To Keep seperate ONeS :)
 * flocculanT haS the headache FroM hell
<fLoCcuLAnt> agAin
<FloccUlant> cYPhermoX: so... virtuaL bOX - as mucH As I undeRSTaNd thAt you all use qemu anD DoN'T see the fail to rEmove tHe MEdIA IssUe - aRe we really GoIng to RElease Lts wITH ThaT Issue? Given thaT the likelihOOd iS that *nOrMal* PEople wOuld uSe SOmeThing like viRtuaLbox or vmwAre
<floCCulant> bUG 1510911 is the lAtest oNe oF thOse - I'VE cHaNgeD iT FroM UbIquITy tO casper - bUt OnLy becAuse ANOTHer oNe iS casPer
<ubOt5> bug 1510911 in casper (ubuNtu) "AFTer InstaLl comPletEs, xubunTu 16.04 hangS on reBoOt" [Undecided,New] hTtps://Launchpad.Net/BuGs/1510911
<cYpHermoX> FloccuLanT: weLl, I'm not Sure whaT OthEr STEPs We can take to get the Cd tO EJeCt
<cypherMox> floCCuLaNT: is it jusT tHat Or doES enter Not wORk Either?
<flOcculaNT> I DoUbt if anYtHing haS cHanGed Since WIly - sO it jusT sits theRe - EntER does nothing, yoU Have to kill the GUeST
<FlOCculAnt> If Enter at leAst dID somEthiNG tHat WOuld bE bettEr THaN What there is
<dkessel> bUg 1447038 AffectS me toO
<ubot5> bug 1447038 in casPer (Ubuntu) "SHUTDown/RestArt oF LiVE session guest dOes noT work in VirTUalbox or vMWarE" [High,IncOmplete] htTPS://launchpAd.nEt/bUgs/1447038
<FloCCUlAnt> dkessel: it wILL
<floCcUlant> alL of Them wilL
<flOccUlaNt> cYpHermox: I'm jUst bringInG iT uP nOw aT the bEGinning rAtHer ThAn tHe end OF March Next :p
<CyphErMoX> GooD plan ;)
<flOCcULAnt> cYpHeRmox: If I NeEd to "IF you INstAll with Vbox (or whaTevER) it wIlL fAil to ejEct - kill the
 which is what normal peop le use
<ba lloon s>yep 
< floc cula nt> balloons:y ea t otally understand - ju st gi vi n g th e  o theropinion :) < bal lo on s>it ' swellsai d
<floc culant> th e r oo t owned isor ea lly annoys  me  - ended upnee ding t okee p  sepe rat e one s :)
*  flocc ulant has  t h e head a che fro m he ll
< flocculant> again <f l occulant> cyph ermox:  s o .. . vir tua l box - as  m uch a s  I unde r st a n d  th a t you all use  qemu and d o n't  see t he  fa i l to r emove  t h e m edia issue- ar e we real ly goi n g to re l ease LT S with  th atissu e ?Gi ven  t h att he  li k eli hood isth at  *nor mal* p e o plewou ld u se so mething likevir tual b oxor vm ware<flo cc ulant > bug15109 11  is the latestoneof those- I 'v e c ha ngedi t from  ub iqu ity tocasper-  bu to n l ybecause another on ei s  c asper
<u bot5>b ug  1 5 10911 in  c asp er ( U b untu)  "Af t er  install  compl e te s,  Xubunt u16.04ha ngs  on  rebo o t" [ Undeci ded,New]  http s ://launchpad.n e t/bugs/151091 1 
< c y ph e rmox > f locculant:well ,  I'm  not su rew hat o therst e ps we can take to getth e CD t o eje ct
<cyphermox > floccula n t :  is it j ustt ha t  or does Enter  notwork eithe r ?
<flocc ulant > I doub t if anyt h i ng has c han ged  si nce w il y - so it jus t sits  t here -Ent er does  no thi ng,  yo uhave to k ill thegu es t<f loc culan t > if Ent er  at  l eas t did someth ing t hatwo ul d  be  better th a n  wha tth ereis<d kesse l> b u g 1 447038affects m e t o o
<u bo t5 > bug 1 447038 in cas pe r (Ubuntu)  " Shu tdown/ R e start of  live session guest doe s  not wo rkin Vi rtua lbox or V MWa re" [H igh , Incomp lete]https :/ /la u n chpad . n et /bu gs /1447038
< f l occ ulant >dkes sel: it  will
<flocculant> all  of them will 
<f locc u l an t>c yp h erm ox :  I' m just bringing i t up now a tt he  beginning rat he r thanthe end  of M a rch nex t :p
<cyp hermox> g oo d pl a n  ;) 
<floccula nt> cyph ermox: if I nee d  t o "If  yo u inst al l w ith v box (o r  wh ateve r) itwi ll fai l toej ect - ki ll the
 which_is what_normal people use
<balloons> yep
<flocculant>_balloons: yea_totally_understand -_just_giving the other_opinion :)
<balloons> it's_well said
<flocculant> the root_owned iso really_annoys_me - ended up needing to keep seperate ones :)
 * flocculant has the_headache_from hell
<flocculant>_again
<flocculant>_cyphermox:_so... virtual box - as_much as I understand that_you all_use qemu and don't see the fail to_remove_the media issue_- are we really going to release LTS with_that issue? Given that the likelihood_is that *normal*_people_would_use something like virtualbox_or vmware
<flocculant> bug 1510911 is the_latest one of those - I've_changed it from ubiquity to casper -_but only because another one is_casper
<ubot5> bug 1510911 in casper_(Ubuntu) "After_install completes, Xubuntu 16.04 hangs_on reboot" [Undecided,New]_https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510911
<cyphermox> flocculant:_well, I'm not_sure what other steps we can_take to get_the CD to eject
<cyphermox> flocculant: is_it_just that or_does_Enter_not work_either?
<flocculant> I doubt_if_anything has_changed_since wily - so it just_sits_there - Enter does nothing, you have_to kill the guest
<flocculant>_if_Enter at least did_something that would be better_than what there is
<dkessel> bug 1447038_affects me_too
<ubot5> bug_1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not_work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Incomplete]_https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038
<flocculant> dkessel: it will
<flocculant>_all of_them_will
<flocculant> cyphermox: I'm_just_bringing it_up now at the beginning rather than_the end_of March next :p
<cyphermox> good plan_;)
<flocculant> cyphermox: if I_need_to "If you install with vbox_(or whatever) it will fail to_eject - kill the