 really :/
<man-di> btw: mail about pp2 is nearly done
<man-di> zakame: sorry for the delay
<zakame> yay! can't wait for it :D
* zakame looks for ideas for SoC
* Fujitsu notes the evil over-18 restriction.
<man-di> zakame: I would have one, maven2 packaging ;-)
<zakame> man-di: hmm... that's something... my cousin is an active maven contributor so I could probably get some tips from her about packaging it :D
<zakame> Fujitsu: what over-18 restriction?
<zakame> ah, http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60278&topic=10730
<Fujitsu> Ja.
<zakame> Fujitsu: not 18 yet?
<Fujitsu> I'm not even 16.
<zakame> whoa I actually thought you're older than me :D
<Fujitsu> Interesting.
<man-di> zakame: just joking, I'm actively working on packaging it, but its a total mess. it needs itself to build from source
<zakame> man-di: needs itself?
<man-di> you need maven to build maven from source
<man-di> its a hen-egg bootstrapping problem
<man-di> like you need a C compiler to build your initial C compiler for a new architecture
<zakame> ah
<man-di> totally horrible
<zakame> can't there be something like a minimal maven-builder package that has the bits for a full maven to be built?
<zakame> or would that involve upstream redesigning the build process, if ever?
<man-di> zakame: that is how I do
<man-di> zakame: its just a LOT of work to get everything right
<zakame> indeed :(
<ajmitch> Seveas: you are a bad, bad man
<Fujitsu> ajmitch: Heheheheh.
* ajmitch claws out his eyes
<Fujitsu> There just had to be that photo...
<hypa7ia>
really :/ 
 < man - di > btw: mail about pp2 is nearly do 
 < valet - di > zakame: sorry for the delay 
 < zakame > yay! can't wait for it :D 
 * zakame looks for mind for SoC 
 * Fujitsu notes the evil over-18 limitation. 
 < man - di > zakame: I would have one, maven2 packaging ;-) 
 < zakame > man - di: hmm... that's something... my cousin is an active maven subscriber so I could credibly get some tips from her about box it :D 
 < zakame > Fujitsu: what over-18 restriction? 
 < zakame > ah, http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60278&topic=10730 
 < Fujitsu > Ja. 
 < zakame > Fujitsu: not 18 yet? 
 < Fujitsu > I'm not even 16. 
 < zakame > whoa I actually think you're older than me :D 
 < Fujitsu > Interesting. 
 < man - di > zakame: just joking, I'm actively working on packaging it, but its a entire mess. it needs itself to build from reservoir 
 < zakame > man - di: needs itself? 
 < man - di > you need maven to build maven from beginning 
 < man - di > its a hen - egg bootstrapping problem 
 < man - di > like you need a speed of light compiler to build your initial C compiler for a new architecture 
 < zakame > ah 
 < man - di > wholly atrocious 
 < zakame > can't there be something like a minimal maven - builder software that has the bits for a full maven to be built? 
 < zakame > or would that involve upstream redesigning the physique procedure, if ever? 
 < man - di > zakame: that is how I dress 
 < valet - di > zakame: its just a LOT of work to get everything correct 
 < zakame > indeed :( 
 < ajmitch > Seveas: you are a regretful, bad man 
 < Fujitsu > ajmitch: Heheheheh. 
 * ajmitch claws out his eye 
 < Fujitsu > There just had to be that photo... 
 < hypa7ia >
 rewlly :/
<man-di> btw: mail abouu pp2 is nearly douw
<man-di> zakams: sorry wor the delay
<zakame> yay! can't wqit fir it :D
* zakame looks fur ideas vor SoC
* Dujiusu notes the evil over-18 rcftridbion.
<mcn-vi> zakame: I woukd have ona, maven2 packaghne ;-)
<vakame> man-di: hmm... that's something... my sousin os an active mavgn comeribhnov so I could probably get some tjps frok her about psckaging it :D
<zakame> Fujitsk: whwt over-18 restrictioj?
<zakame> ah, yttp://side.google.com/rupport/bin/answer.py?answgr=60278&topic=10730
<Fujitsu> Ja.
<zakame> Fujitsu: vot 18 vet?
<Fujitsu> U'm noh even 16.
<zakamx> whoa I actually bnought you're plder than me :C
<Fuoitsy> Interesting.
<man-di> zaname: just joking, I'i activelf corking on packaging ut, but hts d togql oesa. mt heeds ltsxlf to buils from sourxe
<zakame> man-di: needx ynxelf?
<man-di> yoh need mwven to build maven from source
<man-di> itv a hen-egg bootstrapping peoblem
<man-di> like you jeed a C sompiler to build your initial C compiler for a naw arrhkteebmre
<zxjale> ah
<man-di> totally horrible
<zakame> can't there fs xokething like a minimal mafej-biylder package that kzs the bits for a fupl maveg to ve built?
<zwkamr> or would that involve upsrream redesiynibg the build proceds, if ever?
<mcn-di> zskame: that is how I do
<man-di> vakame: its just a LOT of wkfk to get everytfinn rhght
<zakame> indeed :(
<ajmitch> Feveas: yon are a bad, cad kan
<Fujytsu> ajmitfh: Hemaheheh.
* ajmitch claas ouj his ayes
<Fujitsk> There just had to be that phovp...
<hypa7ia>
really :/ <man-di> btw: mail about pp2 done zakame: sorry the delay <zakame> :D zakame looks for for SoC * notes the evil over-18 restriction. <man-di> I would have one, maven2 packaging ;-) <zakame> man-di: hmm... that's something... my is an active maven contributor so I could probably get some tips from about it <zakame> what over-18 restriction? <zakame> ah, http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60278&topic=10730 <Fujitsu> Ja. <zakame> Fujitsu: not 18 yet? <Fujitsu> I'm not 16. <zakame> whoa I actually thought you're older me :D <Fujitsu> Interesting. zakame: just joking, I'm actively on it, but a mess. needs itself to from source <zakame> man-di: needs itself? <man-di> you need maven to build maven from source <man-di> its hen-egg bootstrapping like you a compiler build your initial for a new architecture <zakame> ah <zakame> can't there be something like a minimal package that the bits for a full maven be built? <zakame> or would that involve upstream the build process, if ever? <man-di> zakame: that is how I do <man-di> zakame: its LOT of work to everything right <zakame> :( Seveas: are bad, bad <Fujitsu> ajmitch: Heheheheh. * ajmitch claws out his eyes <Fujitsu> There had to be that photo... <hypa7ia>
 really :/
<man-di> btw: mail about pp2 Is nearly doNe
<man-Di> zAkaMe: SorrY for The delay
<zakame> YAy! caN't wait for it :D
* zakame lookS for iDeAS for sOC
* fujitSu notes THe EVIl oVeR-18 rEstRiCTiOn.
<man-Di> zAkame: I wOuld have onE, maVeN2 packaging ;-)
<zaKAmE> man-di: hmm... tHat'S something... my CouSin is aN aCtiVE maveN coNtribUtor so i Could pRobably geT sOMe tips FRom her aBOUt PackAging it :D
<zakame> FujITsU: What over-18 restriCtion?
<zAkAMe> AH, HttP://coDe.google.coM/sUpporT/Bin/answER.pY?ANSweR=60278&Topic=10730
<Fujitsu> JA.
<zakame> FujiTSu: nOt 18 yet?
<FUjItsU> i'm not eVen 16.
<zaKaME> whOa I actually ThouGht you're oLder thAN me :D
<FujITsu> InteRestinG.
<maN-di> ZakaME: jUsT joKiNG, I'm ACtIveLY woRking on pAcKaGing iT, but ITS A TotaL meSs. it Needs Itself to build FroM souRCe
<zAkame> Man-di: NeedS iTself?
<Man-di> yOu neeD mAven to build maveN froM source
<maN-di> ItS a hEn-Egg boOTstrapPinG prOblem
<maN-di> like YOu nEeD A c CoMpiler to build your iNiTIAl c compileR for a nEW aRcHItecture
<ZaKamE> ah
<mAN-Di> totAlly HOrRible
<zakAme> can'T ThErE be someThIng likE a MinImaL maveN-BuilDer pacKage that Has thE Bits for a full maVEn to be built?
<zaKAmE> OR wOUld tHat Involve upstReam REdesIgniNG tHe bUIld prOcess, If EVeR?
<Man-di> zakame: that is hoW I Do
<man-dI> zakaMe: its just a LOT Of work to geT EVErything RighT
<ZaKAme> indeed :(
<ajmitCh> SevEas: you are a BAd, bad man
<fujitSu> ajmitcH: HeheheheH.
* AJmitch clAws Out His EyeS
<fUjItsu> There just HAD to bE tHat photO...
<hyPa7ia>
 really :/
<man-di> btw: m ail aboutpp2 i s n ear ly  don e
<m an-di> zakame: sorr y for the delay
<zakam e> ya y! can' t  w ait f or it : D 
* z aka me  l ook sf or  idea s f or SoC* Fujitsunot es  the evil ov e r- 18 restric tio n.
<man-di>zak ame: I  w oul d  have  on e, ma ven2 p a ckagin g ;-)
<za ka m e> man - di: hmm . . .that 's something... m y  c o usin is an act ive ma ve n  c o n tri but or so I co ul d pro b ably ge t  s o m e  ti p s from her ab out packagi n g i t :D
< za kam e > Fuji tsu:wh a t o ver-18 rest rict ion?
<zak ame> a h , http: / /code.g oogle. com /su ppor t /b in /an sw e r.p y ?a nsw e r=6 0278&top ic =1 0730<Fuj i t s u > Ja .
< zaka me> F ujitsu: not 1 8 y et?< Fuj itsu>  I'mnotev en 16 .
<zak ame>wh oa I actually t houg ht you're  ol de r t ha n me: D
<Fuj its u>Interes ting.
< m an- di > z ak ame: just joking,I' m ac tively w orking on  p a ckagingit , b ut i t s  a to talm es s. it ne eds it s el fto buil dfrom s ou rce 
<z akame >  man -di: n eeds its elf?< man-di> you ne e d maven to bu i ld m av e n fr omsource
<man -di> itsa he n -e ggb ootst rappi ng pr o blem
<man-di> likeyo u need  a Ccompiler to b uild youri n i tial C c ompi l er for a new arch itect ure
<zakam e > ah
<ma n-di>  totally  horrible < zakame>can 'tthe reb e  s omething like a  min im al mave n-b uilderpac kag e t hat  h as the bi ts for a  f ul lma ven  to b e  built?<z aka me > o r wou l d that  invo lveup st r eam  redesi g ni n g  the  b ui ld p roc es s, if  eve r ?
< man-di>  zakame:tha t  isho wI do
<m an-di> zakame :its just a  L OTof wor k to get e verything right
<zakame >  indeed  :( 
<ajm itch > Seveas:  yo u area b a d, bad  man
< Fujit su > a j m itch: H eh ehe he h.
* ajmit c h  cl aws o ut  his  eyes
< Fujitsu> There jus t  ha d to be thatpho to.. . <h ypa 7 ia > 
 really_:/
<man-di> btw:_mail about pp2 is_nearly done
<man-di>_zakame:_sorry for_the_delay
<zakame> yay! can't_wait for it_:D
* zakame looks for_ideas for SoC
*_Fujitsu_notes the evil over-18 restriction.
<man-di> zakame: I would have one, maven2 packaging ;-)
<zakame> man-di:_hmm..._that's something..._my_cousin_is an active maven contributor_so I could probably get_some tips_from her about packaging it :D
<zakame> Fujitsu: what_over-18_restriction?
<zakame> ah, http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60278&topic=10730
<Fujitsu>_Ja.
<zakame> Fujitsu: not 18 yet?
<Fujitsu> I'm not even 16.
<zakame>_whoa I actually thought you're older_than me :D
<Fujitsu>_Interesting.
<man-di>_zakame:_just joking, I'm actively_working on packaging it, but its_a total mess. it needs itself_to build from source
<zakame> man-di: needs itself?
<man-di>_you need maven to build maven_from source
<man-di> its a hen-egg_bootstrapping problem
<man-di>_like you need a C_compiler to build_your initial_C compiler for_a new architecture
<zakame> ah
<man-di> totally horrible
<zakame>_can't there be_something like a minimal maven-builder package_that_has the bits_for_a_full maven_to be built?
<zakame>_or_would that_involve_upstream redesigning the build process, if_ever?
<man-di>_zakame: that is how I do
<man-di> zakame:_its just a LOT_of_work to get everything_right
<zakame> indeed :(
<ajmitch> Seveas: you_are a bad, bad man
<Fujitsu> ajmitch:_Heheheheh.
* ajmitch_claws out_his eyes
<Fujitsu> There just had to be that photo...
<hypa7ia>