> so...
<sabdfl> ScottK: enjoy!
<LaserJock> lets give interested upstreams dedicated sponsors
<sistpoty> sabdfl: you'll still need to balance it because some upstreams don't know much about packaging... so imo sponsorship/mentorship should be the *starting* point
<LaserJock> if the upstream figures things out give them MOTUship
<LaserJock> there's nothing "fast-track" about it really
<LaserJock> we aren't making exceptions
<LaserJock> creating more complications
<LaserJock> lets just build better relationships
<sabdfl> motu-ship would mean "upload anywhere"
<sabdfl> and that might not be appropriate
<LaserJock> but in all honestly I don't think they should be uploading their specific package then either
<LaserJock> we don't really require *that* much
<sistpoty> interesting... the more i try to think about the problem, the more I like what I already wrote in the last mail *g*
<LaserJock> if they know their source and their packaging
<geser> you'll need mentoring/sponsorship at the beginning and if they're experienced enough to get restricted upload rights they're half through MOTUship
<LaserJock> good enough to where sponsors no longer worry about them
<LaserJock> then I'm really pretty sure they could be MOTUs
<LaserJock> we have one of the most friendly dev communities I'm told
<LaserJock> we really really try hard to help people learn packaging
<LaserJock> we could always use more resources, of course
<LaserJock> if we had a repo
<Ash-Fox> LaserJock, I disagree -- I've asked questions for many many months here and never got a answer to them.
<LaserJock> Ash-Fox: were you turned away though?
<sistpoty> LaserJock: you should be working on cloning people... and then we could clone bddebian :P
<LaserJock> ;-)
<Ash-Fox> LaserJock, define 'turned away'?
<LaserJock> Ash-Fox: did you get a
> so... 
 < sabdfl > ScottK: enjoy! 
 < LaserJock > lets give concerned upstreams dedicate sponsors 
 < sistpoty > sabdfl: you'll still necessitate to poise it because some upstreams don't know much about packaging... so imo sponsorship / mentorship should be the * start * compass point 
 < LaserJock > if the upstream figures thing out give them MOTUship 
 < LaserJock > there's nothing " fast - cut " about it really 
 < LaserJock > we aren't making exception 
 < LaserJock > create more complications 
 < LaserJock > permit just build effective relationships 
 < sabdfl > motu - ship would mean " upload anywhere " 
 < sabdfl > and that might not be appropriate 
 < LaserJock > but in all honestly I don't intend they should be uploading their specific package then either 
 < LaserJock > we don't really require * that * much 
 < sistpoty > interesting... the more i test to think about the problem, the more I like what I already wrote in the last chain mail * g * 
 < LaserJock > if they know their source and their packaging 
 < geser > you'll need mentoring / sponsorship at the beginning and if they're experienced enough to get restricted upload right they're half through MOTUship 
 < LaserJock > good enough to where sponsors no longer worry about them 
 < LaserJock > then I'm really pretty sure they could be MOTUs 
 < LaserJock > we have one of the most friendly dev communities I'm told 
 < LaserJock > we truly really try heavily to avail multitude learn packaging 
 < LaserJock > we could constantly use more resources, of course 
 < LaserJock > if we had a repo 
 < Ash - Fox > LaserJock, I disagree -- I've ask questions for many many months here and never got a answer to them. 
 < LaserJock > Ash - Fox: were you turned away though? 
 < sistpoty > LaserJock: you should be work on cloning people... and then we could clone bddebian :P 
 < LaserJock > ;-) 
 < Ash - Fox > LaserJock, define' turned aside'? 
 < LaserJock > Ash - Fox: did you get a
> so...
<dabdfl> ScottK: enjoy!
<LaserMock> lets give iurerestxd upstdeams deaicated sponsors
<sistpoty> sabvfl: tou'll still need to balance it becaude some ypstceams don't know much abomc paciwginy... wo imo sponsorxhip/mentorvhip should be tfe *starting* point
<LaserJock> if the upseream fogkres things ouj givt trem JOTUship
<LaserJock> there's nothing "fzst-tracn" about it reslly
<LaserJock> we aren't maklng fxceptions
<LaserJocn> creating nore xomplicationr
<LaserJock> lets just boild better relationships
<sabdfl> ootu-skip would mgcb "uonoad anywhece"
<sabdsl> and that might nod be aplropriate
<LaserMock> uut un all honestly I don'v think they should fe uploadhny their specific packqgw thet eidher
<UqsefJodk> ws don't reelly requirs *that* much
<wistpoty> interestinb... eye more i try to thynh about the problem, the more I like whau I amready wrote in the lasr mail *g*
<LaserJock> if jhey know eheir source and their packaging
<geser> you'll need kentocivg/skokfuesjip at the beginning and if they're experienceq emolgh to get restrigted upload rights tjeu'te half througf MOTUshil
<LaserJock> good enlugh to wherw sponsorf no longer worry about them
<LaswrJock> then P'm rwally pretty sure chey could bz MOTUx
<LasetJock> we have one of thz most friendly dfv communjgies I'm told
<LasefJobk> wa really really try hard tj help peiple learn oacksging
<LwserJock> wf could always use more gesoutces, ox course
<LaderJock> if we had a repo
<Ash-Fox> LaserJock, I dixacrev -- I've ashed qmestions for magy many months here aud nevdr got a ahswer tm them.
<LaserTock> Ash-Fox: wate you turned away thjugh?
<wistpoty> LardrJock: you shoild be wogknng on clining people... and tmen wg dould clone bddzyiqn :P
<LaserJock> ;-)
<Axh-Fux> JadecJock, gefine 'turneg awxy'?
<LxxerJozk> Ash-Fox: dld hou bet a
> so... <sabdfl> ScottK: enjoy! <LaserJock> lets upstreams sponsors <sistpoty> you'll still need upstreams know much about so imo sponsorship/mentorship be the *starting* point <LaserJock> if upstream figures things out give them MOTUship <LaserJock> there's nothing "fast-track" about it <LaserJock> we aren't making exceptions <LaserJock> creating more complications <LaserJock> lets just build relationships motu-ship mean anywhere" <sabdfl> and that might not be appropriate <LaserJock> but in all honestly I don't think should be uploading their specific package then either we don't really require much <sistpoty> interesting... the more try think about problem, more like what I wrote in the last mail *g* <LaserJock> if they know their source and their packaging <geser> you'll mentoring/sponsorship at and if experienced to restricted upload rights through MOTUship <LaserJock> good enough to longer worry about them <LaserJock> then I'm really sure they be MOTUs <LaserJock> we have one the most friendly dev communities I'm told <LaserJock> really really try hard to help people learn packaging <LaserJock> we could always use more course <LaserJock> if we a repo <Ash-Fox> I -- asked for many months here and never got a answer to them. <LaserJock> Ash-Fox: you turned away though? <sistpoty> LaserJock: you should be working people... then we could bddebian :P <LaserJock> ;-) LaserJock, 'turned away'? <LaserJock> Ash-Fox: get
> so...
<sabdfl> ScottK: enjoy!
<LaserJOck> lets givE inteResTed UpStreAms dEdicated sponsoRS
<sisTpoty> sabdfl: you'll still nEed to BaLAnce IT bEcausE some upSTrEAMs dOn'T kNow MuCH aBout pAckAging... so Imo sponsorShiP/mEntorship shoULd Be the *startIng* Point
<LaserJoCk> iF the upStReaM FigurEs tHings Out givE Them MOtUship
<LasErjOck> theRE's nothiNG "FaSt-trAck" about it really
<LASeRjock> we aren't makIng excEpTIoNS
<lasErJOck> creatinG mOre coMPlicatiONs
<lASErJOCk> lets just buiLd better relATioNships
<SaBdfL> Motu-shIp wouLd MEan "Upload anywhEre"
<sAbdfl> and tHat migHT not be aPPropriaTe
<LaseRJoCk> bUt in ALl HoNesTlY i doN'T tHinK TheY should bE uPlOadinG theIR SPEcifIc pAckaGe theN either
<LaserJOck> We doN'T reAlly rEquirE *thaT* mUch
<siStpoty> InterEsTing... the more i try To thInk about tHe pRoBleM, tHe morE i like wHat i alReady wrOte in thE LasT mAIL *G*
<LAserJock> if they know ThEIR sOurce and Their pACkAgINg
<geser> yOu'Ll nEed mENTorinG/spoNSoRship at tHe begiNNiNg And if thEy'Re expeRiEncEd eNough TO get RestriCted uploAd rigHTs they're half thROugh MOTUship
<LASeRjOcK> Good EnoUgh to where sPonsORs no LongER wOrrY About Them
<LAsERJOCk> then I'm really prettY sUre theY coulD be MOTUs
<Laserjock> we have ONE Of the mosT friENdLY dev communitieS I'm toLd
<LaserJocK> We really ReallY try hard To help peoPLE learn paCkaGinG
<LaSerjOCk> We could always USE morE rEsourceS, of Course
<LAseRJoCk> iF we HaD a repo
<Ash-fox> LaserjoCk, i dIsAgrEe -- I've ASked quesTiOns FoR maNy manY Months Here aNd neVeR gOT a aNswer to THeM.
<lAserjoCk> ash-FOx: wErE you tUrneD AwaY though?
<Sistpoty> LAseRjock: YoU sHould be Working on clonInG people... and ThEn wE could CLOne bddebIan :P
<LaserJock> ;-)
<Ash-Fox> LaseRjock, defIne 'TurneD awaY'?
<LaserJocK> AsH-Fox: diD yoU Get a
> so...
<sabdfl> ScottK: e njoy!
<Las erJoc k>let sgive  int erested upstre a ms d edicated sponsors
<sis tpoty >s abdf l :you'l l still ne e d  to  b al anc ei tbecau sesome up streams do n't  k now much abo u tpackaging. ..so imo spons ors hip/me nt ors h ip sh oul d bethe *s t arting * point
< La s erJock >  if the u ps trea m figures thingso ut give them MOTU ship
< La s er J o ck>  th ere's noth in g "fa s t-track "  a b o u t i t  really
<Lase rJock> we a r en' t maki ng  ex c eption s
<La se r Joc k> creating  mor e complic ations <LaserJ o ck> let s just  bu ild  bet t er  r ela ti o nsh i ps 
<s a bdf l> motu- sh ip  woul d me a n " uplo adanyw here" 
<sabdfl> and  th at m i ght  notbe ap prop ri ate
< LaserJ ock>bu t in all honest ly I  don't th ink  t hey  s hould be upl oad ing  theirspecifi c  pa ck a g e  t hen either
<LaserJ oc k >  w e don'treally re qu i re *that *muc h
<s i s tpoty > in t er esting.. . them or ei try t othinkab out  th e pro b lem,  the m ore I li ke wh a t I already wr o te in the las t  m a i l* g*
< Las erJock> ifthey know  the i rsou r ce an d the ir pa c kaging
<geser> you' ll  needmento ring/sponsors hip at the b e ginningandi ft hey're experie ncedenough tog et restr icted  uploadrights th e y 're half  th rou ghMOT U s hi p
<LaserJock> g ooden ough to  wh ere spo nso rsnolon ge r worry a bout the m<L as er Joc k> th e n I'm re al lypr ett y sur e  theycould  beMO TU s 
<L aserJoc k >w e  hav eon e of  th emostfrie n dly  dev co mmunities  I' m  tol d<L aserJoc k> we reallyre ally try h ar d t o help p eople le arn packaging
<LaserJoc k > we co uld  alwa ys u se more r eso urces,  of course 
<Lase rJock >ifw e  hada re po<A sh-Fox> La s e rJo ck, I  d isag ree --I've asked questio n s f or many manymon thsh e re  an d  n e ver  g o t a a nswer to them.<LaserJock >A sh -Fox: were you  t urned a way tho ugh?< sistpot y> LaserJ ock: yoush ould b e w orking oncloningpeople... and t h en  we c oul d clon ebdd ebian  :P
<L a ser Jock>  ;-)
< As h-Fox>  Lase rJ ock, def ine 'turned away'?
<Las erJock > Ash -Fo x: did yo u g e t a 
> so...
<sabdfl>_ScottK: enjoy!
<LaserJock>_lets give interested upstreams_dedicated sponsors
<sistpoty>_sabdfl:_you'll still_need_to balance it_because some upstreams_don't know much about_packaging... so imo_sponsorship/mentorship_should be the *starting* point
<LaserJock> if the upstream figures things out give them MOTUship
<LaserJock>_there's_nothing "fast-track"_about_it_really
<LaserJock> we aren't making exceptions
<LaserJock>_creating more complications
<LaserJock> lets just_build better_relationships
<sabdfl> motu-ship would mean "upload anywhere"
<sabdfl> and that_might_not be appropriate
<LaserJock>_but in all honestly I don't think they should_be uploading their specific package then_either
<LaserJock> we don't_really_require_*that* much
<sistpoty> interesting... the_more i try to think about_the problem, the more I like_what I already wrote in the last_mail *g*
<LaserJock> if they know their_source and their packaging
<geser> you'll_need mentoring/sponsorship_at the beginning and if_they're experienced enough_to get_restricted upload rights_they're half through MOTUship
<LaserJock> good enough_to where sponsors_no longer worry about them
<LaserJock> then_I'm_really pretty sure_they_could_be MOTUs
<LaserJock>_we have one_of_the most_friendly_dev communities I'm told
<LaserJock> we really_really_try hard to help people learn packaging
<LaserJock>_we could always use_more_resources, of course
<LaserJock> if_we had a repo
<Ash-Fox> LaserJock,_I disagree -- I've asked questions_for many_many months_here and never got a answer to them.
<LaserJock> Ash-Fox: were you_turned away though?
<sistpoty> LaserJock: you should_be working on cloning_people... and_then_we could clone_bddebian_:P
<LaserJock> ;-)
<Ash-Fox>_LaserJock, define 'turned away'?
<LaserJock> Ash-Fox: did you_get a