graber> jdong: While you are talking about backport, I had bug 68818 and tried fixing it with simply building Feisty package on Edgy, it worked perfectly, is there a way you make a backport to fix that really really annoying bug (unable to correctly use squid as transparent proxy (no cache is not a solution for me))?
<Ubugtu> Malone bug 68818 in squid "squid transparent proxy is broken" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68818
<lupine_85> it was sabdfl, but TBH I'd have given response to anyone
<LaserJock> lupine_85: why did you think it wasn't wanted?
<stgraber> jdong: I didn't see a proper patch upstream else than, fixed in next release please upgrade
<sabdfl> LaserJock: they won't change it till they realise that someone cares
<LaserJock> sabdfl: we didn't tell them we didn't
<sabdfl> and if they are there, and we are here, there's no opportunity to realise that
<jdong> stgraber: I am not supposed to use backports to fix bugs; I'm supposed to reassign them to MOTU
<gnomefreak> i thought it was a FTB thats why it was stopped
<sabdfl> LaserJock: if they were here every day, we would have
<jdong> stgraber: which... er... basically means throwing the bug out :(
<lupine_85> well, until UVF I thought someone in ubuntu was dealing with it (you told us otherwise it seems, but no-one told me - beryl comm problem ;) 0
<LaserJock> sabdfl: they are here quite often
<Lutin> I wonder how someone providing software can not care about its license
<sabdfl> Lutin: upstreams often just want to hack
<sistpoty> sabdfl: but honestly I guess it was also a little bit of a problem how much we cared about it. it maybe might have helped to just come in and say "make this top priority" earlier on
<lupine_85> post-UVF, I didn't bother because I thought it wouldn't get
graber > jdong: While you are talking about backport, I had bug 68818 and tried specify it with plainly building Feisty package on Edgy, it worked absolutely, is there a way you make a backport to fix that truly really annoying bug (ineffective to correctly practice squid as transparent proxy (no cache is not a solution for me) )? 
 < Ubugtu > Malone microbe 68818 in squid " squid transparent proxy is broken " [ High, Confirmed ]   https://launchpad.net/bugs/68818 
 < lupine_85 > it was sabdfl, but TBH I'd have give response to anyone 
 < LaserJock > lupine_85: why did you think it wasn't wanted? 
 < stgraber > jdong: I didn't attend a proper patch upstream else than, fixed in future release please upgrade 
 < sabdfl > LaserJock: they won't change it till they gain that someone cares 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: we didn't tell them we didn't 
 < sabdfl > and if they are there, and we are here, there's no opportunity to realise that 
 < jdong > stgraber: I am not supposed to use backports to sterilize bugs; I'm supposed to reassign them to MOTU 
 < gnomefreak > i thought it was a FTB that s why it was stopped 
 < sabdfl > LaserJock: if they were here every day, we would have 
 < jdong > stgraber: which... er... basically means throwing the bug out :( 
 < lupine_85 > well, until UVF I thought someone in ubuntu was dealing with it (you told us otherwise it seems, but no - one told me - beryl comm problem ;) 0 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: they are here quite frequently 
 < Lutin > I wonder how someone providing software cannot care about its license 
 < sabdfl > Lutin: upstreams much barely want to hack 
 < sistpoty > sabdfl: but honestly I guess it was besides a little spot of a problem how much we worry about it. it maybe might have helped to just come in and pronounce " make this top priority " earlier on 
 < lupine_85 > post - UVF, I didn't bother because I think it wouldn't catch
graher> jdong: While you are ualking about backport, I had bhg 68818 and gried fixing it with simply uuileing Deisty package on Edgy, it workef perfecrly, ms there a way you make a backllrt co fix that realky really dnnoying bug (utaclz to correctly use squid as transparqnt procy (no cache is njt a folufpok for me))?
<Ubugtu> Malone bug 68818 in sqhid "squpd transparent prpxy is broken" [High,Confirmef]  hhtps://launchpad.net/buhs/68818
<lupine_85> it was wabdfl, but TCH I'd have given respohse to anyone
<LaserJock> lupine_85: wfy dib you think ir wwvn't wanted?
<svgrabeg> jdong: I didk'n see a proper patch upstreak ense than, fixed in next rxlease please upgradg
<sabdfl> LavexJock: they won't changw ut tinl tvey fwalkse tiat someoje rares
<LaserJkck> sabdfl: qe didn't tell them ee eidn't
<sabdfl> ahd if ehqy are there, and we are here, there's no mppkrtunity to realise thar
<jdong> stgraber: I am jot suppofed to use backports to fix bugs; I'm supposed to raassijn thtm to MURU
<hnomefreak> i thought it was a FTB thats why ie wss stopped
<sabdfl> LaserJock: of tngy were here exery dcg, se would have
<jdong> stgrabgr: whixh... er... basycalky means throwing the bug oyt :(
<lupine_85> wejo, until UVF I thouyht someone nn ubumtu wss dealing with it (you cold ua otherwise it seems, cut no-one told md - nerfl comm kfoblem ;) 0
<LaserJock> sabdfl: tiey axe here duitg often
<Jutin> I wojder mmw someone providijg soytwara can not fare about its license
<sabdfl> Luvmn: upstreams pfden just waut to mack
<sistpoty> safdfl: but honesjly I guefs it was also z littlx bit of a pwoblem how muwj we cared auout it. ie matbe night hxxe helped to jist come pn and say "make this top prkkrity" earlier ou
<uopine_85> post-UVF, I dian't bltier bqwause I thoucht kt dpuldn'g get
graber> jdong: While you are talking about had 68818 and fixing it with Edgy, worked perfectly, is a way you a backport to fix that really annoying bug (unable to correctly use squid as transparent proxy (no cache is a solution for me))? <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68818 in squid "squid transparent proxy broken" https://launchpad.net/bugs/68818 it sabdfl, but TBH I'd have given response to anyone <LaserJock> lupine_85: why did you think it wanted? <stgraber> jdong: I didn't see a proper upstream else than, fixed next release please upgrade <sabdfl> they change it they that cares <LaserJock> sabdfl: didn't tell them we didn't <sabdfl> and if they are there, and we are here, there's no to realise stgraber: I not to backports to fix supposed to reassign them to MOTU it was a FTB thats why it was <sabdfl> LaserJock: they were here every day, we have <jdong> stgraber: which... er... basically means throwing bug out :( <lupine_85> well, until UVF I thought someone in ubuntu was dealing with told us otherwise it but no-one told - comm ;) <LaserJock> sabdfl: are here quite often <Lutin> I wonder how someone providing software not care about its license <sabdfl> Lutin: upstreams often just hack sabdfl: but honestly guess it was also little of a problem how cared it. have to come in and say this top priority" earlier on post-UVF, I didn't bother get
graber> jdong: While you are talKing about bAckpoRt, I Had BuG 68818 and TrieD fixing it with sIMply Building Feisty package oN Edgy, It WOrkeD PeRfectLy, is theRE a WAY yoU mAkE a bAcKPoRt to fIx tHat realLy really anNoyInG bug (unable to COrRectly use sQuiD as transpareNt pRoxy (no CaChe IS not a SolUtion For me))?
<UBUgtu> MaLone bug 68818 in SqUId "squiD TranspaRENt ProxY is broken" [High,ConfIRmED]  https://launchpaD.net/buGs/68818
<LUpINE_85> it Was Sabdfl, but TbH i'd havE Given reSPoNSE To aNYone
<LaserJock> Lupine_85: why diD You Think iT wAsn'T Wanted?
<StgraBeR> JdoNg: I didn't see A proPer patch uPstreaM Else thaN, Fixed in Next reLeaSe pLeasE UpGrAde
<SaBDfl> lAsErJOCk: tHey won't cHaNgE it tiLl thEY REAlisE thAt soMeone Cares
<LaserJocK> saBdfl: WE diDn't teLl theM we dIdN't
<sabDfl> and If theY aRe there, and we are Here, There's no oPpoRtUniTy To reaLIse thaT
<jdOng> StgrabeR: I am not SUppOsED TO uSe backports to fix buGs; i'M SuPposed to ReassiGN tHeM To MOTU
<gnOmEfrEak> i THOught It waS A FtB thats wHy it waS StOpPed
<sabdFl> laserJOcK: if TheY were HEre eVery daY, we would Have
<jDOng> stgraber: whiCH... er... basically mEAnS THrOWing The Bug out :(
<lupinE_85> welL, UntiL UVF i ThOugHT someOne in UbUNtU Was dealing with it (you ToLd us otHerwiSe it seems, but nO-one told me - BERYl comm prObleM ;) 0
<laSErJock> sabdfl: thEy are Here quite oFTen
<Lutin> i wondEr how somEone proviDINg softwaRe cAn nOt cAre ABOuT its license
<saBDFl> LuTiN: upstreAms Often juSt wAnt To hAck
<SiStpoty> sabDfl: but hoNeStLy i gUesS it waS Also a litTlE biT oF a pRobleM How mucH we caRed aBoUt IT. it Maybe miGHt HAVe heLpEd To juSt cOmE in anD say "MAke This top Priority" eArlIEr on
<LuPiNe_85> post-UvF, I didn't botheR bEcause I thoUgHt iT wouldN'T Get
graber> jdong: While you a re talking  abou t b ack po rt,I ha d bug 68818 an d  tri ed fixing it with simp ly bu il d ingF ei sty p ackageo nE d gy,  i twor ke d  p erfec tly , is th ere a wayyou  m ake a backpo r tto fix tha t r eally really  an noying  b ug( unabl e t o cor rectly use sq uid as tr an s parent proxy ( n o  c ache  is not a solutio n  f o r me))?
<Ubugt u> Mal on e  b u g  68 818  in squid"s quidt ranspar e nt p r oxy is broken" [H igh,Confirm e d] https :/ /la u nchpad .net/ bu g s/6 8818
<lupin e_85 > it wassabdfl ,  but TB H  I'd ha ve giv enres pons e  t oany on e 
<L a se rJo c k>lupine_8 5:  w hy di d yo u t h inkitwasn 't wa nted?
<stgrab er>  jdo n g:I did n't s ee a  p roper  patch  upst re am else than, f ixed  in nextrel ea sepl easeu pgrade 
<s abd fl> Las erJock: the yw o n 't  change it till th ey r ea lise tha t some o ne  c a res
<Las er Joc k> s a b dfl:we d i dn 't tellthem w e  d id n't
<sa bd fl> an difthe y are ther e, and  we arehere, there's no opp o rtunity to re a li s e  t h at
< jdo ng> stgrabe r: I am n ot s u pp ose d  to u se ba ck p or t s to fix bugs; I'msu pposed  to r eassign themto MOTU
<g n o m efreak>i th o ug h t it was a FTB  that s why it w a s stoppe d
<sa bdfl> La serJock:i f  they we reher e e ver y da y, we would h a v e
<j do ng> stg rab er: whi ch. ..er. ..ba sically m eans thr ow in gth e b ug ou t  :(
<lup in e_8 5>  we ll, u n til UV F I t houg ht  s o meo ne in u b un t u  was  d ea ling  wi th  it ( yout old  us oth erwise it  se e ms,bu tno-onetold me - ber yl  comm prob le m ; ) 0
<L a s erJock>sabdfl: they are here q u ite oft en<Luti n> I  wonder h owsomeon e p r ovidin g soft wareca n n o t  care a bo utit s license< s abd fl> L ut in:upstrea ms often just want tohack
<sistpot y>sabd f l :but ho n est ly I g u e ss it was alsoa little b it of  a problem how  m uch wecared a bouti t. it m aybe migh t have he lp ed t o jus t come inand say"make thi s  topp ri ority " e arlier  o n
< lupin e_85>p ost -UVF,  I did n' t both er be ca use I th ought it wouldn't get
graber> jdong:_While you_are talking about backport,_I had_bug_68818 and_tried_fixing it with_simply building Feisty_package on Edgy, it_worked perfectly, is_there_a way you make a backport to fix that really really annoying bug (unable_to_correctly use_squid_as_transparent proxy (no cache is_not a solution for me))?
<Ubugtu>_Malone bug_68818 in squid "squid transparent proxy is broken"_[High,Confirmed]_ https://launchpad.net/bugs/68818
<lupine_85> it_was sabdfl, but TBH I'd have given response to_anyone
<LaserJock> lupine_85: why did you think_it wasn't wanted?
<stgraber>_jdong:_I_didn't see a proper_patch upstream else than, fixed in_next release please upgrade
<sabdfl> LaserJock: they_won't change it till they realise that_someone cares
<LaserJock> sabdfl: we didn't tell_them we didn't
<sabdfl> and if_they are_there, and we are here,_there's no opportunity_to realise_that
<jdong> stgraber: I_am not supposed to use backports_to fix bugs;_I'm supposed to reassign them to_MOTU
<gnomefreak>_i thought it_was_a_FTB thats_why it was_stopped
<sabdfl>_LaserJock: if_they_were here every day, we would_have
<jdong>_stgraber: which... er... basically means throwing the_bug out :(
<lupine_85> well,_until_UVF I thought someone_in ubuntu was dealing with_it (you told us otherwise it_seems, but_no-one told_me - beryl comm problem ;) 0
<LaserJock> sabdfl: they are here_quite often
<Lutin> I wonder how someone_providing software can not_care about_its_license
<sabdfl> Lutin: upstreams_often_just want_to hack
<sistpoty> sabdfl: but honestly I guess_it was_also a little bit of a_problem how much we_cared_about it. it maybe might have_helped to just come in and_say "make this top priority"_earlier_on
<lupine_85>_post-UVF, I didn't bother because_I thought it wouldn't get