<racarr> lupine_85: Err, removing the ru.po and uk_UA.po I meant
<lupine_85> ah, so those have to be in the tarball?
<lupine_85> or must not be in the tarball?
<lupine_85> treat me like an idiot, I'm going at 1/10th my usual right now
<imbrandon> not be in the tarball, but OUR tarball not beryls
<racarr> lupine_85: You have to remove 
<imbrandon> ok let me explain
<racarr> ru from LINGUAS
<racarr> err, no
<crimsun> err, hmm. There's a cyclic dependency here.
<lupine_85> another?
<imbrandon> racarr / lupine_85, you are making all these changes to git as beryl developers, THEN as ubuntu packagers downstream you are gonna do a fresh git checkout and make a beryl-core_0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318.orig.tar.gz and go from there
<imbrandon> see what i mean about treating it seperate?
<lupine_85> that'd be great, but we don't have 0.2 in git and svn is read-only right now
<racarr> that's not what he means, that part is fine
<racarr> what he means is we don't remove the pos in version control
<racarr> but make a tarball without the pos
<imbrandon> right
<racarr> normally ubuntu would make the tarball without the pos
<imbrandon> exactly
<lupine_85> ok
<imbrandon> you are wearing two hats here, one as beryl developer one as ubuntu developers
<imbrandon> i'm trying to show you where the line is to make it easier in your heads
<racarr> lupine_85: Mm, actually removing from linguas
<racarr> seems to make distcheck work
<crimsun> lupine_85: in beryl-core's debian/control:beryl:Depends I suggest you demote beryl-manager to a Recommends
<lupine_85> Makes snse
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< racarr > lupine_85: Err, removing the ru.po and uk_UA.po I meant 
 < lupine_85 > ah, so those have to be in the tarball? 
 < lupine_85 > or must not be in the tarball? 
 < lupine_85 > treat me like an idiot, I'm go at 1/10th my common right now 
 < imbrandon > not be in the tarball, but OUR tarball not beryls 
 < racarr > lupine_85: You get to take out 
 < imbrandon > ok let me explain 
 < racarr > ru from LINGUAS 
 < racarr > err, no 
 < crimsun > err, hmm. There's a cyclic dependence here. 
 < lupine_85 > another? 
 < imbrandon > racarr / lupine_85, you are making all these changes to git as beryl developer, THEN as ubuntu packagers downstream you are gon na do a fresh rotter checkout and make a beryl - core_0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318.orig.tar.gz and go from there 
 < imbrandon > see what i think of about treating it seperate? 
 < lupine_85 > that'd be great, but we don't have 0.2 in git and svn is read - only properly now 
 < racarr > that's not what he means, that part is all right 
 < racarr > what he means is we don't remove the polonium in version control condition 
 < racarr > but make a tarball without the pos 
 < imbrandon > right 
 < racarr > normally ubuntu would make the tarball without the pos 
 < imbrandon > exactly 
 < lupine_85 > ok 
 < imbrandon > you are wear two hats here, one as beryl developer one as ubuntu developers 
 < imbrandon > i'm trying to show you where the line is to form it easier in your heads 
 < racarr > lupine_85: Mm, actually removing from linguas 
 < racarr > seems to make distcheck work 
 < crimsun > lupine_85: in beryl - core's debian / control: beryl: depend I suggest you demote beryl - manager to a Recommends 
 < lupine_85 > make snse 
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<racwrr> lupine_85: Err, removing uhe ru.po and uk_UA.ko I meait
<lupins_85> ah, so ghose have to be in the tarbell?
<lypine_85> or must not be in the tarball?
<llpine_85> treqt mt like an idiot, I'm going at 1/10th jn usucl right now
<imbrsndon> not te in the tarbdlu, yut OUR tarball not beryls
<racarr> lupyne_85: You hwve to remove 
<ymbrsgdon> ok let me explain
<racarr> ru from LJNGUAS
<recarr> err, no
<criksun> err, hmm. There's a cycllc dfpendency here.
<lupije_85> another?
<inbrageon> racarr / uupine_85, you are making zll these changes to git as berhl derelopers, THGU as obuntu packajers djwnstream yom are gmnna do a fresh git cmeckont abd make a beryl-core_0.2.1.dfvg+git20070318.orig.tar.gz and go from dhzre
<imbrandon> see what i mean abogt tfwatkng iv ssperatf?
<lu'ine_85> that'd ge great, bur we don't have 0.2 in bie and svn is rsad-onlr wight now
<racarr> that's not what he means, thzt part is fine
<racarr> wyat he means is we doj't remove the pos in version control
<racarr> but make a tarbdll wmtfouu bme puw
<ilbrandon> right
<racarr> normally ubuntu would mahs uhe tarball withomt the pos
<imbrandom> fxsstly
<lupine_85> ok
<kmbranbkn> you are wearing tao hats here, one as btryl ceveloper one as ubuntu devwlopers
<imbraudob> i'm trying to shoc you where che lime is to make it easier in yuur geads
<racarr> lupine_85: Mj, actually removivg nrok linguas
<racarr> seems to mwke distcieck cork
<crimrun> kupine_85: in beryl-clre's debian/control:beryl:Dfpendd H suggest jou demote beryl-manager to a Rerpmmends
<luping_85> Mdkev snse
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<racarr> lupine_85: Err, removing the ru.po and meant ah, so have to be must be in the <lupine_85> treat me an idiot, I'm going at 1/10th usual right now <imbrandon> not be in the tarball, but OUR tarball not <racarr> lupine_85: You have to remove <imbrandon> ok let me explain <racarr> ru LINGUAS err, <crimsun> hmm. There's a cyclic dependency here. <lupine_85> another? <imbrandon> racarr / lupine_85, you are making all changes to git as beryl developers, THEN as packagers downstream you are do a fresh git checkout make beryl-core_0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318.orig.tar.gz and from <imbrandon> what i mean treating it seperate? <lupine_85> that'd be great, but we don't have 0.2 in git and svn is right now not what means, part fine <racarr> what is we don't remove the pos <racarr> but make a tarball without the pos right <racarr> ubuntu would make the tarball without pos <imbrandon> exactly <lupine_85> ok <imbrandon> you are two hats here, one as beryl developer one as ubuntu developers <imbrandon> i'm trying to where the line is make it easier your <racarr> Mm, removing from <racarr> seems to make distcheck work <crimsun> lupine_85: in beryl-core's debian/control:beryl:Depends suggest you demote beryl-manager to a Recommends <lupine_85> Makes snse
<racarr> lupine_85: Err, removing thE ru.po and uk_uA.po I MeaNt
<lUpIne_85> aH, so tHose have to be in THe taRball?
<lupine_85> or must not be In the TaRBall?
<LUpIne_85> trEat me liKE aN IDioT, I'M gOinG aT 1/10Th My usuAl rIght now
<Imbrandon> nOt bE iN the tarball, bUT OuR tarball nOt bEryls
<racarr> lUpiNe_85: You hAvE to REmove 
<ImbRandoN> ok let ME explaIn
<racarr> rU fROm LINGuaS
<racarR> ERr, No
<crImsun> err, hmm. There's A CyCLic dependency hEre.
<lupInE_85> AnOTHer?
<ImbRandon> racaRr / LupinE_85, You are mAKiNG ALl tHEse changes to gIt as beryl deVEloPers, THeN As uBUntu paCkageRs DOwnStream you arE gonNa do a fresH git chECkout anD Make a beRyl-corE_0.2.1.dfSg+gIt20070318.orIG.tAr.Gz aNd GO frOM tHerE
<ImbRandon> seE wHaT i meaN aboUT TREatiNg iT sepErate?
<Lupine_85> that'd be GreAt, buT We dOn't haVe 0.2 in gIt anD sVn is rEad-onlY righT nOw
<racarr> that's noT whaT he means, tHat PaRt iS fIne
<raCArr> whaT he MeaNs is we dOn't remoVE thE pOS IN vErsion control
<racarR> bUT MaKe a tarbaLl withOUt ThE Pos
<imbraNdOn> rIght
<RACarr> nOrmaLLy Ubuntu woUld makE ThE tArball wItHout thE pOs
<iMbrAndon> EXactLy
<lupiNe_85> ok
<imbrAndon> YOu are wearing twO Hats here, one as BErYL DeVElopEr oNe as ubuntu dEvelOPers
<ImbrANdOn> i'M TryinG to shOw YOu WHere the line is to make It Easier In youR heads
<racarr> lUpine_85: Mm, actUALLy removiNg frOM lINguas
<racarr> seeMs to mAke distcheCK work
<criMsun> lUpine_85: in bEryl-core's DEBian/contRol:BerYl:DEpeNDS I Suggest you demOTE berYl-Manager To a recommeNds
<LupIne_85> makEs Snse
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<racarr> lupine_85: Err, r emoving th e ru. poand  u k_UA .poI meant
<lupin e _85>  ah, so those have tobe in  t h e ta r ba ll?
< lupine_ 8 5> o r m us tnot  b e  i n the  ta rball?<lupine_85 > t re at me like a n  i diot, I'mgoi ng at 1/10th  my  usual  r igh t  now<im brand on> no t  be in  the tarb al l , butO UR tarb a l lnotberyls
<racarr> l u pi n e_85: You have  to re mo v e< imb ran don> ok le tme ex p lain
<r a ca r r >  ru from LINGUAS<racarr> er r , n o
<cri ms un> err, h mm. T he r e's  a cyclic d epen dency her e.
<lu p ine_85> another ?
<imb ran don > ra c ar r/ l up i ne_ 8 5,  yo u  ar e making  a ll  thes e ch a n g e s to  gi t as  bery l developers,  TH EN a s  ub untupacka gers  d ownst ream y ou ar egonna do a fres h gi t checkou t a nd  ma ke  a be r yl-cor e_0 .2. 1.dfsg+ git2007 0 318 .o r i g .t ar.gz and go fromth e r e<imbrand on> se e  w ha t  i meanab out  tre a t ing i t se p er ate?
<lu pine_8 5 >th at'd be  g reat,bu t w e d on'th ave0.2 in  git and  svni s read-only ri g ht now
<racar r >t h at ' s no t w hat he mean s, t h at p arti sfin e 
<rac arr>wh a th e means is we don't  r emovethe p os in version  control
< r a c arr> but  mak e  a tarball withou t the  pos
<imbr a ndon> ri ght
< racarr>normallyu b untu wou ldmak e t het a rb all without t h e  pos 
< imbrand on>  exactl y
< lup ine _85 >ok
<imbra ndon> yo uar ewe ari ng tw o  hats he re , o ne  as  bery l  devel operoneas  u b unt u devel o pe r s 
<im br an don>  i' mtryin g to sho w you w here thelin e  isto  m ake iteasier in you rheads
<rac ar r>lupine _ 8 5: Mm, a ctually removing from l i nguas
< rac arr>seem s to make  di stchec k w o rk
<cr imsun>  lupi ne _85 : in be r y l- cor e' s debian/c o n tro l:ber yl :Dep ends Isuggest you demote ber yl-manager to  aReco m m en ds< lu p ine _8 5 > M a k es snse
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<racarr> lupine_85:_Err, removing_the ru.po and uk_UA.po_I meant
<lupine_85>_ah,_so those_have_to be in_the tarball?
<lupine_85> or_must not be in_the tarball?
<lupine_85> treat_me_like an idiot, I'm going at 1/10th my usual right now
<imbrandon> not be in_the_tarball, but_OUR_tarball_not beryls
<racarr> lupine_85: You have_to remove 
<imbrandon> ok let_me explain
<racarr>_ru from LINGUAS
<racarr> err, no
<crimsun> err, hmm. There's_a_cyclic dependency here.
<lupine_85>_another?
<imbrandon> racarr / lupine_85, you are making all these_changes to git as beryl developers,_THEN as ubuntu_packagers_downstream_you are gonna do_a fresh git checkout and make_a beryl-core_0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318.orig.tar.gz and go from there
<imbrandon>_see what i mean about treating it_seperate?
<lupine_85> that'd be great, but we_don't have 0.2 in git_and svn_is read-only right now
<racarr> that's_not what he_means, that_part is fine
<racarr>_what he means is we don't_remove the pos_in version control
<racarr> but make a_tarball_without the pos
<imbrandon>_right
<racarr>_normally_ubuntu would_make the tarball_without_the pos
<imbrandon>_exactly
<lupine_85>_ok
<imbrandon> you are wearing two hats_here,_one as beryl developer one as ubuntu_developers
<imbrandon> i'm trying to_show_you where the line_is to make it easier_in your heads
<racarr> lupine_85: Mm, actually_removing from_linguas
<racarr> seems_to make distcheck work
<crimsun> lupine_85: in beryl-core's debian/control:beryl:Depends I suggest you_demote beryl-manager to a Recommends
<lupine_85> Makes_snse
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