dfl, right only after me ajmitch geser and crimsun just to name the ones of my head that "fixed" them, ask quinn
<imbrandon> sure, lets get them in
<imbrandon> hehe
<imbrandon> i'm all for that 10000000%
<ScottK> It seems odd to me to argue that it's to hard to get packages approved after submission when the packages have never been submitted.
<imbrandon> but....
<sabdfl> this is going to result in better, faster evolution of free software
<imbrandon> one sec phone
<imbrandon> sorry
<sabdfl> imbrandon: i appreciate that you and others helped to produce those packages, but then communication broke down
<sabdfl> let's make sure that does not happen in future!
<geser> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/02/msg00382.html mentions some lincense problems with beryl for Debian. Are these problems resolved now?
<sabdfl> we will shortly have the PPA facility, which will allow us to mentor people directly using LP builds, just not uploading direct to universe
<lupine_85> geser: yep
<sabdfl> as fast as possible we want those packages to go into the mainline so they get wide testing
<sabdfl> we already ship tango icons
<sabdfl> that's not an issue for us
<geser> lupine_85: did these problems prevent an inclusion into universe? or were there any other problems?
<TomaszD> can anyone tell me when is restricted-manager going to be available for translation? I can't find the template in rosetta
<TomaszD> oops, wrong channel :)
<imbrandon> ok back sorry, yes lets get them in there, i'm willing to doso today if wanted, but lets do this the normal way with me and geser sponsoring them, and let the MOTU processes take their run as far as MOTUship
<imbrandon> sabdfl, ^^
<imbrandon> i mean honestly, the MOTU process is only a week, IF that
<geser> especially since it doesn't take that long to become a MOTU
dfl, right only after me ajmitch geser and crimsun just to name the one of my heading that " fixed " them, ask quinn 
 < imbrandon > sure, lets receive them in 
 < imbrandon > hehe 
 < imbrandon > i'm all for that 10000000% 
 < ScottK > It seems odd to me to argue that it's to intemperate to drive packages approve after submission when the packages have never been submit. 
 < imbrandon > but.... 
 < sabdfl > this is going to result in better, faster evolution of free software 
 < imbrandon > one sec telephone 
 < imbrandon > sorry 
 < sabdfl > imbrandon: i appreciate that you and others helped to grow those packages, but then communication broke down 
 < sabdfl > let's make certain that does not happen in future! 
 < geser > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/02/msg00382.html mentions some lincense problems with beryl for Debian. Are these problems resolved nowadays? 
 < sabdfl > we will shortly have the PPA facility, which will allow us to mentor people directly using LP builds, just not uploading direct to universe 
 < lupine_85 > geser: yep 
 < sabdfl > as fast as possible we want those packages to go into the mainline so they get across-the-board testing 
 < sabdfl > we already ship tango icon 
 < sabdfl > that's not an issue for us 
 < geser > lupine_85: did these problems prevent an inclusion into universe? or were there any early problems? 
 < TomaszD > can anyone assure me when is restricted - manager go to be available for translation? I can't find the template in rosetta 
 < TomaszD > oops, wrong channel :) 
 < imbrandon > ok back sorry, yes lets catch them in there, i'm willing to doso today if wanted, but lets do this the normal direction with me and geser sponsoring them, and permit the MOTU processes take their run as far as MOTUship 
 < imbrandon > sabdfl, ^^ 
 < imbrandon > i mean honestly, the MOTU procedure is only a week, IF that 
 < geser > especially since it doesn't subscribe that farseeing to become a MOTU
dfl, right only after me ajmltch geser and ctinsun jnst to hame the ones of my head that "fixed" vhem, ask wuinn
<imbrandon> sure, legs get thvm in
<imbrqndoi> hehe
<imbrandon> m'j all for thaf 10000000%
<ScoctJ> It seems odd to me to drgue that it's tu kard to get packages approved after fubmissooj when the pachagex havs never been submitted.
<imbrandon> buf....
<sabdfl> this is goinb to result in better, fastfr egolution of free slftware
<imbrqndog> one sec phove
<imbrandon> sorry
<sabdfm> imbrandon: i appreciate that yuu anb others heopwd hm produce tiose pwckages, but bnen cokmunicayion broke dowk
<sabdhl> lwt's make sure that doxs not happen in futore!
<geser> hdt'://lists.debian.org/debian-eecel/2007/02/msc00382.htmn mevriovs aoke lincejse problems sith beryl dor Debian. Are thest pwiblems resolvsd now?
<fafdfl> we will shortly have the PPA facilpty, shich will allow us to nentor people directli using LP builds, just not uploading direct to universe
<lupite_85> geadr: vci
<sabadl> as fast as possible we want those packages tj gp pnto the mainline so they gey aicg testing
<sabdfu> we alrezdy ship tango icojs
<sabdfj> thar's not an issie for us
<geser> lupine_85: did tyese problemf prevent an inclusnon into unirerse? pr wete there any other probuems?
<FomaszD> can anyone tsul me when is rertrpcteg-manager going to be availwble for vranskation? K cam't finq the temppate lt rosetta
<TomaszD> olps, wtong cvannel :)
<imbgandon> ok back sorry, yes lets gxv them in thete, h'm filling co dosp today if wagted, but lets bo this che nofmal way wpth me anv geser sponforing them, atf let the MOVU procesfes rake their fjn as far as MPTUship
<imyxandon> savdfl, ^^
<imbrandon> i mcan huhestly, the MOTU pricess is only a wedk, YF tiat
<gefar> especiallf sivce ot dodsn't take tmat lonb to become a MOTU
dfl, right only after me ajmitch geser just name the of my head <imbrandon> lets get them <imbrandon> hehe <imbrandon> all for that 10000000% <ScottK> It odd to me to argue that it's to hard to get packages approved submission when the packages have never been submitted. <imbrandon> but.... <sabdfl> this is to in faster of free software <imbrandon> one sec phone <imbrandon> sorry <sabdfl> imbrandon: i appreciate that you and helped to produce those packages, but then communication down <sabdfl> let's make that does not happen in <geser> mentions some problems beryl Debian. Are these resolved now? <sabdfl> we will shortly have the PPA facility, which will allow us to mentor people using LP not uploading to <lupine_85> yep <sabdfl> as possible we want those packages to mainline so they get wide testing <sabdfl> we ship tango <sabdfl> that's not an issue for <geser> lupine_85: did these problems prevent an inclusion universe? or were there any other problems? <TomaszD> can anyone tell me when is restricted-manager be available for translation? can't find the in <TomaszD> wrong :) <imbrandon> back sorry, yes lets get them in there, i'm willing to today if wanted, but lets do this the normal way and sponsoring them, and the MOTU processes take run far as MOTUship <imbrandon> <imbrandon> mean process only week, IF that <geser> since it doesn't take that to become a MOTU
dfl, right only after me ajmitcH geser and cRimsuN juSt tO nAme tHe onEs of my head that "FIxed" Them, ask quinn
<imbrandon> sUre, leTs GEt thEM iN
<imbrAndon> heHE
<iMBRanDoN> i'M alL fOR tHat 10000000%
<ScOttk> It seemS odd to me to ArgUe That it's to harD To Get packageS apProved after sUbmIssion WhEn tHE packAgeS have Never bEEn submItted.
<imbrAnDOn> but....
<sABdfl> thiS IS gOing To result in better, fAStER evolution of frEe softWaRE
<iMBRanDon> One sec phonE
<iMbranDOn> sorry
<SAbDFL> ImbRAndon: i appreciAte that you aND otHers heLpEd tO ProducE thosE pACkaGes, but then cOmmuNication bRoke doWN
<sabdfl> LEt's make Sure thAt dOes Not hAPpEn In fUtURe!
<gESeR> htTP://liSts.debiaN.oRg/DebiaN-devEL/2007/02/MSG00382.htmL meNtioNs somE lincense probLemS witH BerYl for debiaN. Are ThEse prOblems ResolVeD now?
<sabdfl> we wilL shoRtly have tHe PpA FacIlIty, whICh will AllOw uS to mentOr peoplE DirEcTLY UsIng LP builds, just not UpLOAdIng direcT to uniVErSe
<LUpine_85> gesEr: Yep
<SabdFL> As fasT as pOSsIble we waNt thosE PaCkAges to gO iNto the MaInlIne So theY Get wIde tesTing
<sabdFl> we aLReady ship tango ICons
<sabdfl> thaT'S nOT An ISsue For Us
<geser> lupiNe_85: diD ThesE proBLeMs pREvent An incLuSIoN Into universe? or were tHeRe any oTher pRoblems?
<Tomaszd> can anyone TELL me when iS resTRiCTed-manager goinG to be Available fOR translaTion? I Can't find The templaTE In rosettA
<ToMasZD> oOps, WROnG channel :)
<imbraNDOn> ok BaCk sorry, Yes Lets get TheM in TheRe, i'M wIlling to dOso today If WaNtEd, But Lets dO This the nOrMal WaY wiTh me aND geser SponsOrinG tHeM, And Let the MotU PROcesSeS tAke tHeiR rUn as fAr as moTUShip
<imbRandon> sabDfl, ^^
<IMbraNdOn> I mean hoNestly, the MOTU PrOcess is onlY a WeeK, IF thaT
<GEser> espeCially since it doesn't take THat long To bEcome A MOTu
dfl, right only after me a jmitch ges er an d c rim su n ju st t o name the one s  ofmy head that "fixed" t hem,as k  qui n n<imbr andon>s ur e ,  le ts  g etth e min
<i mbr andon>hehe
<imbr and on > i'm all fo r  t hat 100000 00% 
<ScottK> It  se ems od dtom e toarg ue th at it' s  to ha rd to get  p a ckages approve d af tersubmission when t h ep ackages have n ever b ee n  s u b mit ted .
<imbrand on > but . ...
<sa b df l > thi s  is going toresult in b e tte r, fas te r e v olutio n offr e e s oftware
<im bran don> onesec ph o ne
<imb r andon>sorry<sa bdf l> i m br an don :i  ap p re cia t e t hat youan dother s he l p e d  topro duce  thos e packages, b utthen com munic ation  bro ke  down 
<sabd fl> l et 's make sure th at d oes not h app en  in  f uture ! 
<gese r>htt p://lis ts.debi a n.o rg / d e bi an-devel/2007/02/m sg 0 0 38 2.html m ention s  s om e  lincens epro blem s withbery l  f or Debia n. Are th es e probl em s reso lv ednow ?
<sa b dfl>  we wi ll short ly ha v e the PPA faci l ity, which wi l la l lo w  ustomentor peop le d i rect ly u s in g L P  buil ds, j us t  n o t uploading directto  unive rse
< lupine_85> ge ser: yep
< s a b dfl> asfast as possible we wa nt th ose packag e s to gointothe main line so t h e y get wi detes tin g
< s a bd fl> we alread y ship  t ango ic ons 
<sabdf l>tha t's  no tan issuefor us
< ge se r>  l upi ne_85 :  did the se  pr ob lem s pre v ent an  incl usio nin t o u niverse ?  o r were  t he re a nyot her p robl e ms? 
<Tomas zD> can a nyo n e te ll  m e whenis restricted -m anager goi ng  to  be av a i lable fo r translation? I can'tf ind the  te mplat e in  rosetta<To maszD>  oo p s, wro ng cha nnel:) 
<i m b rando n >  o k b ac k sorry, y e s  le ts ge tthem  in the re, i'm willing to dos o today if wa nte d, b u t  l ets do thi st hen o rmal way with m e and gese rs po nsoring th e m,an d let t he MOTU  proc e sses ta ke theirrun as fa ras M O T Ush ip
<imbran don> sab dfl, ^^
< i mbran d on > i m ean  hones tl y,the M OTU pr o ces s isonly a  w eek, I F tha t<geser>especially since it doe sn't t ake t hat  long tobec o mea MOTU
dfl, right_only after_me ajmitch geser and_crimsun just_to_name the_ones_of my head_that "fixed" them,_ask quinn
<imbrandon> sure, lets_get them in
<imbrandon>_hehe
<imbrandon>_i'm all for that 10000000%
<ScottK> It seems odd to me to argue that it's_to_hard to_get_packages_approved after submission when the_packages have never been submitted.
<imbrandon>_but....
<sabdfl> this_is going to result in better, faster evolution_of_free software
<imbrandon> one_sec phone
<imbrandon> sorry
<sabdfl> imbrandon: i appreciate that you and_others helped to produce those packages,_but then communication_broke_down
<sabdfl>_let's make sure that_does not happen in future!
<geser> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/02/msg00382.html_mentions some lincense problems with beryl_for Debian. Are these problems resolved now?
<sabdfl>_we will shortly have the PPA_facility, which will allow us_to mentor_people directly using LP builds,_just not uploading_direct to_universe
<lupine_85> geser: yep
<sabdfl>_as fast as possible we want_those packages to_go into the mainline so they_get_wide testing
<sabdfl> we_already_ship_tango icons
<sabdfl>_that's not an_issue_for us
<geser>_lupine_85:_did these problems prevent an inclusion_into_universe? or were there any other problems?
<TomaszD>_can anyone tell me_when_is restricted-manager going to_be available for translation? I_can't find the template in rosetta
<TomaszD>_oops, wrong_channel :)
<imbrandon>_ok back sorry, yes lets get them in there, i'm willing_to doso today if wanted, but_lets do this the_normal way_with_me and geser_sponsoring_them, and_let the MOTU processes take their run_as far_as MOTUship
<imbrandon> sabdfl, ^^
<imbrandon> i mean_honestly, the MOTU process_is_only a week, IF that
<geser> especially_since it doesn't take that long_to become a MOTU