 updates.
<sistpoty> crimsun_: ubuntu-dev can. some collaboration/communication is the base to get these upload rights, so I don't think there would be too many clashes
<crimsun_> I think it'd be nice to have experimental be a graded process, like the enable-able experimental repo can only contain tested and ACKedexperimental/foo-branch packages
<crimsun_> ACKed experimental/foo-branch, that is
<geser> crimsun_: how to you avoid it that random people activate it and report how broken it is? they already use 3rd party repos without understanding what they are doing?
<sistpoty> it would need s.th. like ubuntu-archive anyway (or at least a trimmed down/adjust process), otherwise me might end up with copyright probs
<TheMuso> I still don't like the idea. Can't put a finger on why just yet howevr.
<TheMuso> however
<crimsun_> geser: we don't avoid that :)
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<sistpoty> geser: yep, that's the point, because it's upstream who will (should) deal with the bugs :)
<lupine_85> *oops*
<TheMuso> c
<TheMuso> ugh
<lupine_85> dput *changes when in an etch system probably won't make debian.org happy :s
<lupine_85> ah well, new beryl-manager up
<lupine_85> anything else I can do tonight, or is it safe to sleep now? ;)
<sistpoty> that depends who's still up and will do some reviews (I won't be up for too long, past 3 am here)
<crimsun_> I can review in 2 hours
<lupine_85> mm, it's 2:14am here
<crimsun_> which packages?
<lupine_85> crimsun_: as in, start in 2 hours?
<crimsun_> yes, as in start.
<lupine_85> packages are aquamarine beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-unsupported beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings beryl-
updates. 
 < sistpoty > crimsun _: ubuntu - dev can. some collaboration / communication is the base to get these upload right field, so I don't remember there would be too many clashes 
 < crimsun _ > I think it'd be dainty to have experimental be a graded summons, like the enable - able experimental repo can entirely contain test and ACKedexperimental / foo - branch packages 
 < crimsun _ > ACKed experimental / foo - arm, that is 
 < geser > crimsun _: how to you avoid it that random people trip it and report how broken it is? they already use 3rd party repos without understanding what they are doing? 
 < sistpoty > it would need s.th. like ubuntu - archive anyway (or at least a trimmed down / adjust procedure), otherwise me might end up with copyright probs 
 < TheMuso > I still don't like the theme. Can't put a finger on why just yet howevr. 
 < TheMuso > however 
 < crimsun _ > geser: we don't debar that :) 
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 < sistpoty > geser: yep, that's the point, because it's upstream who will (should) share with the bugs :) 
 < lupine_85 > * oops * 
 < TheMuso > c 
 < TheMuso > ugh 
 < lupine_85 > dput * changes when in an etch system probably won't make debian.org happy: s 
 < lupine_85 > ah well, new beryl - manager up 
 < lupine_85 > anything else I can do tonight, or is it safe to sleep now? ;) 
 < sistpoty > that depends who's still up and will do some reviews (I won't be up for too retentive, past 3 am here) 
 < crimsun _ > I can review in 2 hours 
 < lupine_85 > mm, it's 2:14am here 
 < crimsun _ > which box? 
 < lupine_85 > crimsun _: as in, depart in 2 hour? 
 < crimsun _ > yes, as in start. 
 < lupine_85 > packages are greenish blue beryl - core beryl - director beryl - plugins beryl - plugins - unsupported beryl - settings beryl - settings - binding beryl-
 upfates.
<sistpoty> crimsun_: ubmntu-dev can. some collabmratioh/communization is the base to get thxse yploae rights, so I don't thivk there aould be too nany clashxa
<crimsuk_> I tglnk ic'd be nice to haye experimettal be a gradad pxocess, like the enable-able experimeneal repp fan only contayn ttstqd ahd ACKedexperimental/foo-branch packzges
<criksun_> ACKed exlerimental/foo-branch, that id
<gesfr> crimsun_: how to jou avoid ij thwr random peoole activaue it and rekort how broken it is? they alreaay usz 3rd party tzpos fithout undxrstanqing what thcj are dming?
<sisypoty> it would nexd s.rh. like ubuntu-archive anyway (or at leasj a trimmeg bown/adjust process), otyeewise me kighg ena uk wmth copyrlghv probs
<TheMhso> I still don't like the idea. Cwb't put a fingsr on rhr just yet howevr.
<TheMuso> however
<crimsun_> geaer: we don't avoid that :)
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<sistpoty> geser: yep, that's the point, because ht's u'sgrecn who qipl (should) deal with the bugs :)
<lupine_85> *oops*
<TheMufk> v
<TmeMuso> ugh
<lupine_85> dput *changrs wngn in an etch rystem prkbably won't make dfbian.ord happy :s
<lupint_85> ah eell, new beryl-manager up
<lupune_85> anything wlse I can do toniyht, or is it safg to skeep now? ;)
<sistpoty> that bependa who's stilp up and skll do some revidws (I won't be up for too long, pwst 3 am hxre)
<crnmsun_> I zan teview yn 2 hours
<lkpine_85> mm, it's 2:14am here
<crimdun_> wkich [ackages?
<luoine_85> crimsun_: as in, start in 2 honcs?
<crimsun_> yes, av it start.
<lbpine_85> iackages are aqtamarine beryl-eore bervl-manaeer beryl-pmugins ueryl-plugins-tnsupported batyl-settings bxryl-settiggs-bundibgs berhu-
updates. <sistpoty> crimsun_: ubuntu-dev can. some collaboration/communication base get these rights, so I too clashes <crimsun_> I it'd be nice have experimental be a graded process, the enable-able experimental repo can only contain tested and ACKedexperimental/foo-branch packages <crimsun_> ACKed that is <geser> crimsun_: how to you avoid it that random people activate and how it they already use 3rd party repos without understanding what they are doing? <sistpoty> it would need like ubuntu-archive anyway (or at least a trimmed process), otherwise me might up with copyright probs <TheMuso> still like the Can't a on why just howevr. <TheMuso> however <crimsun_> geser: we don't avoid that :) * lupine_85 finds another comment to fix geser: yep, point, because upstream will deal with the <lupine_85> *oops* <TheMuso> c <TheMuso> ugh when in an etch system probably won't make happy :s ah well, new beryl-manager up <lupine_85> else I can do tonight, or is it to sleep now? ;) <sistpoty> that depends who's still up and will do some reviews be up for too past 3 am <crimsun_> can in hours <lupine_85> it's 2:14am here <crimsun_> which packages? <lupine_85> crimsun_: as in, start 2 hours? <crimsun_> yes, as in start. <lupine_85> packages are beryl-manager beryl-plugins-unsupported beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings
 updates.
<sistpoty> crimsun_: ubuNtu-dev can. sOme coLlaBorAtIon/cOmmuNication is the bASe to Get these upload rights, so i don't ThINk thERe Would Be too maNY cLASheS
<cRiMsuN_> I THiNk it'd Be nIce to haVe experimeNtaL bE a graded procESs, Like the enaBle-Able experimeNtaL repo cAn OnlY ContaIn tEsted And ACKEDexperImental/foO-bRAnch paCKages
<crIMSuN_> ACKEd experimental/foo-BRaNCh, that is
<geser> cRimsun_: HoW To YOU avOid It that randOm PeoplE ActivatE It AND RepORt how broken it Is? they alreaDY usE 3rd parTy RepOS withoUt undErSTanDing what theY are Doing?
<sistPoty> it WOuld neeD S.th. like Ubuntu-ArcHivE anyWAy (Or At lEaST a tRImMed DOwn/Adjust prOcEsS), otheRwisE ME MIght End Up wiTh copYright probs
<ThEMuSo> I sTIll Don't lIke thE ideA. CAn't puT a fingEr on wHy Just yet howevr.
<ThEMusO> however
<cRimSuN_> geSeR: we doN'T avoid ThaT :)
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<sistpoty> geser: yeP, tHAT's The point, BecausE It'S uPStream whO wIll (ShouLD) Deal wIth tHE bUgs :)
<lupinE_85> *oops*
<THEMUsO> c
<TheMuSo> Ugh
<lupInE_85> dpUt *cHangeS When In an etCh system ProbaBLy won't make debiAN.org happy :s
<lupINe_85> AH WeLL, new BerYl-manager up
<LupiNE_85> anyThinG ElSe I CAn do tOnighT, oR Is IT safe to sleep now? ;)
<sistPoTy> that DepenDs who's still up And will do sOME Reviews (I Won't BE uP For too long, past 3 Am herE)
<crimsun_> I cAN review iN 2 hourS
<lupine_85> mM, it's 2:14am herE
<CRimsun_> whIch PacKagEs?
<lUPInE_85> crimsun_: as in, sTARt in 2 HoUrs?
<crimSun_> Yes, as in StaRt.
<lUpiNe_85> pAcKages are aQuamarinE bErYl-CoRe bEryl-mANager berYl-PluGiNs bEryl-pLUgins-uNsuppOrteD bErYL-seTtings bERyL-SEttiNgS-bIndiNgs BeRyl-
 updates.
<sistpoty> crims un_: ubunt u-dev  ca n.so me c olla boration/commu n icat ion is the base to get  thes eu ploa d  r ights , so Id on ' t  th in kthe re wo uld b e t oo many  clashes
< cri ms un_> I think it 'd be nice  to  have experi men tal be  a  gr a ded p roc ess,like t h e enab le-able e xp e riment a l repoc a nonly  contain tested a n dA CKedexperiment al/foo -b r an c h  pa cka ges
<crims un _> AC K ed expe r im e n t al/ f oo-branch, th at is
<gese r > c rimsun _:  ho w  to yo u avo id itthat random  peo ple activ ate it and rep o rt howbroken  it  is ? th e yal rea dy use 3r d p a rty  repos w it ho ut un ders t a n d ingwha t th ey ar e doing?
<sis tpo ty>i t w ouldneeds.th .likeubuntu -arch iv e anyway (or at  lea st a trim med  d own /a djust proces s),  ot herwise  me mig h t e nd u p  w ith copyright prob s< T he Muso> Istilld on 't like the  i dea . Ca n ' t put  a f i ng er on wh y just ye thowevr. 
< TheMus o>  ho wev er
<c r imsu n_> ge ser: wedon't avoid that :)*  lupine_85 fi n ds a no t hercom ment to fix 
<si s tpot y> g e se r:y ep, t hat's  t h ep oint, because it'sup stream  whowill (should)  deal with t h e bugs : )
<l u pi n e_85> *oops*
< TheMu so> c
<The M uso> ugh 
<lup ine_85>dput *cha n g es wheninanetc h s y s te m probably wo n ' t ma ke  debian .or g happy  :s 
<l upi ne_ 85 > ah well , new be ry l- ma na ger  up
< l upine_85 >any th ing  else I cando to nigh t,  o r  is  it saf e  t o slee pno w? ; )
< si stpot y> t h atdepends  who's st ill up a nd  w ill dosome reviews(I  won't beup  fo r tool o ng, past  3 am here)
<crimsun_>I  can re vie w in2 ho urs
<lupi ne_ 85> mm , i t 's 2:1 4am he re
<c ri msu n _ > whi c h  p ack ag es?
<lupin e _ 85>  crim su n_:as in,start in 2 hours?< cri msun_> yes, a s i n st a r t. 
<l u pi n e_8 5> pac k a ges are aquamar ine beryl- co r eberyl-mana g erbe ryl-plu gins be ryl-p l ugins-u nsupporte d beryl-s et ting s ber yl-setting s-bindin gs beryl- 
 updates.
<sistpoty>_crimsun_: ubuntu-dev_can. some collaboration/communication is_the base_to_get these_upload_rights, so I_don't think there_would be too many_clashes
<crimsun_> I think_it'd_be nice to have experimental be a graded process, like the enable-able experimental repo_can_only contain_tested_and_ACKedexperimental/foo-branch packages
<crimsun_> ACKed experimental/foo-branch, that_is
<geser> crimsun_: how to you_avoid it_that random people activate it and report how_broken_it is? they_already use 3rd party repos without understanding what they_are doing?
<sistpoty> it would need s.th._like ubuntu-archive anyway_(or_at_least a trimmed down/adjust_process), otherwise me might end up_with copyright probs
<TheMuso> I still don't_like the idea. Can't put a finger_on why just yet howevr.
<TheMuso> however
<crimsun_>_geser: we don't avoid that_:)
* lupine_85_finds another comment to fix
<sistpoty>_geser: yep, that's_the point,_because it's upstream_who will (should) deal with the_bugs :)
<lupine_85> *oops*
<TheMuso>_c
<TheMuso> ugh
<lupine_85> dput *changes when in_an_etch system probably_won't_make_debian.org happy_:s
<lupine_85> ah well,_new_beryl-manager up
<lupine_85>_anything_else I can do tonight, or_is_it safe to sleep now? ;)
<sistpoty> that_depends who's still up_and_will do some reviews_(I won't be up for_too long, past 3 am here)
<crimsun_>_I can_review in_2 hours
<lupine_85> mm, it's 2:14am here
<crimsun_> which packages?
<lupine_85> crimsun_: as in,_start in 2 hours?
<crimsun_> yes, as_in start.
<lupine_85> packages are_aquamarine beryl-core_beryl-manager_beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-unsupported beryl-settings_beryl-settings-bindings_beryl-