>  i tried to dist upgrade and it failed at a pkg now..'sunwcsd'..I manually tried to install to see why this is occuring.. and found out this... http://pastie.org/873299
<wrapster> isnt that obvious coz when i perform a dist upgrade its evident that the machine is running older version of pkgs.. so shouldnt  dist-upgrade take this up and resolve the issue?
<wrapster> or how do i resolve this now?
<persia> nexenta  package upgrade failures are *definitely* off-topic here :)
<wrapster> persia: sorry about that. But i thought i 'll ask as it was about packaging...
<wrapster> sorry anyways
<persia> While this channel talks about packaging a lot, and does a lot of training, the focus is really on improving Ubuntu, especially those packages that don't have someone looking after them.
<micahg> persia: do you know if native PPAs are supposed to not get uploads right now since they build on the release builders?
<persia> micahg: I'd recommend checking https://launchpad.net/builders for the queue sizes first, and using common sense.
<micahg> persia: empty
<micahg> except for ia64
<persia> micahg: How long does your package take to build?
<micahg> persia: it's thunderbird 2
<micahg> so 45 min on normal archs
<persia> If it's quick, I'd say there's little risk.  If it takes a week, now isn't the best time :)
<micahg> 4.5 hhrs on armel
<persia> Ought be relatively safe.
<micahg> persia: it's for security updates...that are supposed to be released any day, but I don't know if I'll get someone to upload tonight
<micahg> persia: but it's good to know anyways
<persia> If it's security stuff, then it takes precedence over other stuff.
<micahg> persia: k..if I can only get an uploader :)
<ddecator> what kind of scripting in a makefile would cause "find -L" during debuild?

>   i tried to dist upgrade and it failed at a pkg now..'sunwcsd'.. I manually judge to install to examine why this is occuring.. and found out this... http://pastie.org/873299 
 < wrapster > is nt that obvious coz when i perform a dist promote its evident that the machine is running older adaptation of pkgs.. so should nt   dist - upgrade carry this up and resolve the issue? 
 < wrapster > or how do i answer this now? 
 < persia > nexenta   package upgrade failure are * definitely * off - topic here :) 
 < wrapster > persia: sorry about that. But i thought i'll ask as it was about promotion... 
 < wrapster > sorry anyways 
 < persia > While this channel talks about box a lot, and does a lot of training, the focus is truly on improving Ubuntu, especially those packages that don't have someone looking after them. 
 < micahg > persia: do you acknowledge if native PPAs are supposed to not get uploads right now since they build on the release builders? 
 < persia > micahg: I'd recommend checking https://launchpad.net/builders for the queue sizes first, and using common sense. 
 < micahg > persia: empty 
 < micahg > except for ia64 
 < persia > micahg: How long does your package take to build? 
 < micahg > persia: it's thunderbird 2 
 < micahg > so 45 minute on normal arch 
 < persia > If it's quick, I'd suppose there's short risk.   If it takes a week, now isn't the best time :) 
 < micahg > 4.5 hhrs on armel 
 < persia > Ought be relatively safe. 
 < micahg > persia: it's for security system updates... that are supposed to be released any day, but I don't know if I'll get someone to upload tonight 
 < micahg > persia: but it's good to know anyways 
 < persia > If it's security stuff, then it takes precedence over early stuff. 
 < micahg > persia: k.. if I can entirely have an uploader :) 
 < ddecator > what kind of scripting in a makefile would cause " find -L " during debuild?
>  i tried to dist upgrade akd it failed at c pkg nmw..'sunwdsd'..I manjally tried to install to sex wht thiw is occuring.. and founa out thid... http://pawtie.ieg/873299
<wrapster> isnt that obvjlus eov when i perfork a dist u[grade its evigevt that the machine is running older dersion ov pkgs.. so shoujdnt  disf-lpnrade take this up and resolve tge issut?
<wrapster> or how dp i resolve this now?
<persia> nexfnta  package upgrwde failurew arq *definitely* uff-topic htrz :)
<wrapster> kersia: sorry about that. But i thuught i 'll ask qs it fas about peckagigg...
<wrapster> sorry anyfays
<perxia> While this chenneo talks about packagiig a lot, and does a jot of trdiuing, the focus is reaolt on hmprmvine Ubjnth, xspsciallj tiose packagss that don'r have someone lookond after them.
<midahg> pqrfia: do you know if native PPAs are suppmses to not get uploads ritht now since they bulld on thq release builders?
<persia> micahg: I'd recommend checning itgps://oamnchoqd.jet/builders for the queue sizes first, and usigf vokmon sense.
<micamg> persia: empty
<micshh> rvcept for ia64
<pgrsia> mndagg: How long does ylur pachage rake to btild?
<kicahg> persia: it's thunderbied 2
<micahg> so 45 min on normal arcks
<persia> If nt's quock, I'c say there's little risy.  Ir it takes w week, nos isn't the best tkme :)
<mhcahg> 4.5 hhrs on armel
<persia> Ought be relctively rafe.
<kicahg> persia: it'd for security updates...thwt arg suppmsed to be released any day, but I don't know if I'll get xokeote to upjoad bonight
<micahg> pqrsia: but it's yood to hnow xnyways
<peraia> If mt's security stuff, then id takes precevence ovew otyer wtuff.
<mizxhg> persia: k..if I can only get an yploader :)
<ddecator> xhat iind of scriptiuy un a makefile wpula cwude "fytd -L" during gebukld?

> i tried to dist upgrade and at pkg now..'sunwcsd'..I tried to install occuring.. found out this... <wrapster> isnt that coz when i perform a dist its evident that the machine is running older version of pkgs.. so shouldnt take this up and resolve the issue? <wrapster> or how do i resolve now? nexenta upgrade are *definitely* off-topic here :) <wrapster> persia: sorry about that. But i thought i 'll ask it was about packaging... <wrapster> sorry anyways <persia> this channel talks about a lot, and does a of the focus really improving especially those packages don't have someone looking after them. <micahg> persia: do you know if native PPAs are supposed to get uploads since they on release <persia> micahg: I'd https://launchpad.net/builders for the queue sizes first, sense. <micahg> persia: empty <micahg> except for ia64 micahg: How does your package take to build? persia: it's thunderbird 2 <micahg> so 45 min normal archs <persia> If it's quick, I'd say there's little risk. If it takes a isn't the best time <micahg> 4.5 hhrs armel Ought relatively <micahg> persia: for security updates...that are supposed to be released any day, but don't know if I'll get someone to upload tonight <micahg> it's to know anyways If it's security stuff, it precedence over other stuff. k..if can uploader <ddecator> kind of scripting in makefile would cause "find -L" debuild?
>  i tried to dist upgrade and it fAiled at a pkG now..'sUnwCsd'..i mAnuaLly tRied to install tO See wHy this is occuring.. and fouNd out ThIS... httP://PaStie.oRg/873299
<wrapsTEr> ISNt tHaT oBviOuS CoZ when I peRform a dIst upgrade Its EvIdent that the MAcHine is runnIng Older version Of pKgs.. so sHoUldNT  dist-UpgRade tAke thiS Up and rEsolve the IsSUe?
<wrapSTer> or hoW DO i ResoLve this now?
<persia> nEXeNTa  package upgraDe failUrES aRE *DefIniTely* off-topIc Here :)
<wRApster> pERsIA: SOrrY About that. But i Thought i 'll aSK as It was aBoUt pACkaginG...
<wrapStER> soRry anyways
<pErsiA> While thiS channEL talks aBOut packAging a Lot, And Does A LoT oF trAiNIng, THe FocUS is Really on ImPrOving ubunTU, ESPeciAllY thoSe pacKages that don't HavE somEOne LookiNg aftEr thEm.
<MicahG> persiA: do yoU kNow if native PPAs Are sUpposed to Not GeT upLoAds riGHt now sIncE thEy build On the reLEasE bUILDeRs?
<persia> micahg: I'd reCoMMEnD checkinG https://LAuNcHPad.net/buIlDerS for THE queuE sizES fIrst, and uSing coMMoN sEnse.
<micAhG> persiA: eMptY
<miCahg> eXCept For ia64
<pErsia> micAhg: HoW Long does your paCKage take to buiLD?
<mICAhG> PersIa: iT's thunderbiRd 2
<miCAhg> sO 45 min ON nOrmAL archS
<persIa> iF iT'S quick, I'd say there's liTtLe risk.  if it tAkes a week, now iSn't the best TIME :)
<micahg> 4.5 hHrs oN ArMEl
<persia> Ought bE relaTively safe.
<MIcahg> perSia: it'S for secuRity updatES...That are sUppOseD to Be rELEaSed any day, but I DON't knOw If I'll geT soMeone to UplOad TonIghT
<mIcahg> persIa: but it's GoOd To KnOw aNywayS
<Persia> If It'S seCuRitY stufF, Then it Takes PrecEdEnCE ovEr other STuFF.
<MicaHg> PeRsia: K..if i cAn onlY get AN upLoader :)
<dDecator> whAt kINd of ScRiPting in A makefile woulD cAuse "find -L" dUrIng DebuilD?

>  i tried to dist upgrade  and it fa iledata p kg  now ..'s unwcsd'..I man u ally  tried to install to s ee wh yt hisi soccur ing.. a n df o und  o ut  th is . ..  http :// pastie. org/873299 
<w ra pster> isntt ha t obviouscoz  when i perf orm  a dis tupg r ade i tsevide nt tha t  the m achine is  r u nningo lder ve r s io n of  pkgs.. so should n tdist-upgrade t ake th is up a ndres olve the i ss ue?
< w rapster >  o r h owd o i resolve t his now?
<p e rsi a> nex en tapackag e upg ra d e f ailures are  *de finitely*  off-t o pic her e  :)
<wr apster > p ers ia:s or ry  ab ou t  th a t.  Bu t  ithoughti'l l ask  asi t w as a bou t pa ckagi ng...
<wrapst er>  sor r y a nyway s
<pe rsia >While  thischann el  talks about pa ckag ing a lot , a nd  do es  a lo t  of tr ain ing , the f ocus is rea ll y o nimproving Ubuntu,es p e ci ally tho se pac k ag es that don 't  ha ve s o m eonelook i ng  after t hem.
< m ic ah g> pers ia : do y ou  kn owif na t ivePPAs a re suppo sed t o  not get uploa d s right now s i nc e th e y bu ild  on the rel ease buil ders ? 
< per s ia> m icahg :I 'd recommend checkinght tps:// launc hpad.net/buil ders for t h e queue si zesf ir s t, and using c ommon  sense.
<m i cahg> pe rsia:  empty
< micahg> e x c ept foria6 4
< per sia > mi cahg: How lon g does  y our pac kag e taketobui ld? 
<m ic ahg> pers ia: it's  t hu nd er bir d 2
< m icahg> s o45mi n o n nor m al arc hs
<p ersi a>  I f  it 's quic k ,I ' d sa yth ere' s l it tle r isk.  If  it tak es a week , n o w is n' tthe bes t time :)
<mi ca hg> 4.5 hh rs  on  armel < persia>Ought be relatively saf e .
<mica hg>  pers ia:it's forsec urityupd a tes... that a re su pp ose d to be r el eas ed  any day,b u t I  don' tknow  if I'l l get someone to u p loa d tonight
<mi cah g> p e r si a:b ut it' sg ood t o know anyways<persia> I fi t' s security stu ff , thenit take s pre c edenceover othe r stuff.<m icah g >  pe rsia: k..i f I canonly geta n upl o ad er :) 
<d decato r>  wh at ki nd ofs cri pting  in ama kefile  woul dcause "f ind -L" during debuild? 

> _i tried_to dist upgrade and_it failed_at_a pkg_now..'sunwcsd'..I_manually tried to_install to see_why this is occuring.._and found out_this..._http://pastie.org/873299
<wrapster> isnt that obvious coz when i perform a dist upgrade its evident that_the_machine is_running_older_version of pkgs.. so shouldnt_ dist-upgrade take this up_and resolve_the issue?
<wrapster> or how do i resolve this_now?
<persia>_nexenta  package_upgrade failures are *definitely* off-topic here :)
<wrapster> persia: sorry_about that. But i thought i_'ll ask as_it_was_about packaging...
<wrapster> sorry anyways
<persia>_While this channel talks about packaging_a lot, and does a lot_of training, the focus is really on_improving Ubuntu, especially those packages that_don't have someone looking after_them.
<micahg> persia:_do you know if native_PPAs are supposed_to not_get uploads right_now since they build on the_release builders?
<persia> micahg:_I'd recommend checking https://launchpad.net/builders for the_queue_sizes first, and_using_common_sense.
<micahg> persia:_empty
<micahg> except for_ia64
<persia>_micahg: How_long_does your package take to build?
<micahg>_persia:_it's thunderbird 2
<micahg> so 45 min on_normal archs
<persia> If it's_quick,_I'd say there's little_risk.  If it takes_a week, now isn't the best_time :)
<micahg>_4.5 hhrs_on armel
<persia> Ought be relatively safe.
<micahg> persia: it's for security updates...that_are supposed to be released any_day, but I don't_know if_I'll_get someone to_upload_tonight
<micahg> persia:_but it's good to know anyways
<persia> If_it's security_stuff, then it takes precedence over_other stuff.
<micahg> persia: k..if_I_can only get an uploader :)
<ddecator>_what kind of scripting in a_makefile would cause "find -L"_during_debuild?
