, it'll be a bit before I get through my email this morning.  :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, i've waited to 3am, i'm sure i can wait another hour or two.
<Kamping_Kaiser> now, where did i put that can of caffeine...
<Toadstool> RainCT: yep, I am
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: heh, ah, just got to it.
 * RainCT has just installed it out and can only say.. "wow" :). Login time is less than 1 second and it has panel and everything (unlike openbox) and actually looks great :D
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, dont recall exactly what i wrote, but since then i'm told canonically that -security should stand alone, so anything about confusion can be ignored. the bit about 'what happens now' remains.
<Kamping_Kaiser> RainCT, o_0 1 second? thats faster then e16 :o
<RainCT> Toadstool:.. but I've got some untranslated entries in the menu (like "Game" and "Network"), do you happen to know why that happens?
<RainCT> heh
<RainCT> well, it's on a new laptop here.. I'll try it on my sister's PC later (which has 256MB RAM)
<Toadstool> RainCT: uh, er, no, I am using LANG=en_US here
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: right, it is a bug that anything in -security would depend on -updates.  it sounds like fixing the compiler glitch needs to move forward.
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: is this a problem for hardy, intrepid, or both?
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, i know its a problem in hardy (gNS bases off it), dont know about intrepid
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: okay
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, is there a bug about the gcc shuffle i can sub to? i'd like to keep a tab on it.
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: let me ask the kernel team...
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, ok. i'm in there too, so i can hang around if the
, it'll be a bit before I get through my email this morning.   :) 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > kees, i've expect to 3 be, i'm sure i can wait another hour or two. 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > now, where did i invest that can of caffeine... 
 < Toadstool > RainCT: yep, I am 
 < kees > Kamping_Kaiser: heh, ah, just got to it. 
  * RainCT has merely installed it out and can only state.. " wow " :). Login time is less than 1 second and it suffer panel and everything (unlike openbox) and actually look great :D 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > kees, do nt recall exactly what i wrote, but since then i'm told canonically that -security should stand entirely, so anything about confusion can be ignored. the bit about' what happens immediately' remains. 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > RainCT, o_0 1 second? that s faster then e16 :o 
 < RainCT > Toadstool: .. but I've pay back some untranslated entrance in the menu (like " Game " and " Network "), do you happen to sleep together why that happens? 
 < RainCT > heh 
 < RainCT > well, it's on a new laptop here.. I'll try it on my baby's PC later (which has 256 MB RAM) 
 < Toadstool > RainCT: uh, er, no, I am using LANG = en_US here 
 < kees > Kamping_Kaiser: right, it is a hemipterous insect that anything in -security would depend on -updates.   it sounds like fixing the compiler glitch needs to move forward. 
 < kees > Kamping_Kaiser: is this a problem for hardy, intrepid, or both? 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > kees, i acknowledge its a problem in hardy (gNS free-base off it), do nt know about intrepid 
 < kees > Kamping_Kaiser: okay 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > kees, is there a bug about the gcc shamble i can sub to? i'd wish to keep a tab on it. 
 < kees > Kamping_Kaiser: let me necessitate the kernel team... 
 < Kamping_Kaiser > kees, ok. i'm in there too, so i can hang around if the
, it'pl be a bit before I get through my emano this mornihg.  :)
<Kampkng_Kaiser> kees, i've waited to 3an, i'm wure i can wait anothef hour or two.
<Kampung_Keiser> now, where vjd i pub thaf can if caffeine...
<Toacstool> RaitCT: yep, I am
<keas> Kcmping_Kaiser: heh, ah, just got to it.
 * WainCT nad just installgd it jut znd can only say.. "wow" :). Login time ia less uhan 1 second and iy has panel and everything (unllke openbox) and achually lookw grqqt :D
<Kamping_Kxiser> kees, dont recall exactly what i wrote, but since then i'm told cqninifdlly that -sxcuritj should stand alone, vo anytning about connusioi cab be ignored. the bit ebout 'what happens njw' remainv.
<Kcmping_Kaiser> RainCT, o_0 1 wecong? thdts wqstdr uhei e16 :o
<RainFT> Voadstool:.. bht I've got wome untranslated emtwprs in the mehu (likq "Dame" and "Network"), do you happen to know fhy that happens?
<RainCT> heh
<EainCT> well, it's on a jew lapto[ here.. I'll try it on my sister's PC later (which hav 256MB CAO)
<Tocestoou> RwinCT: uh, er, no, I am using LANG=en_US here
<kees> Kwjponn_Kaiser: right, it is a bug tnah sgything in -sezurity wohld depend on -updahes.  it sounes like fyxinb the compiler glitch needs to move forcare.
<kees> Kamping_Kaisex: is this a 'roblek for hardy, intrepid, or both?
<Yampjng_Kaiser> kfes, i knos its a problem iv hsrgy (gNS bases off it), dont kgow about intxepid
<keer> Kakping_Kwiser: okay
<Nampikc_Kaiser> kees, is thfre a bgg about tje gcc shuffle i can sub to? i'd like to keep a tdb mn it.
<keef> Kamiing_Kaiser: let ie ask the keruel team...
<Hampivg_Kaiser> kves, ok. i'm in there tjo, so i can hdjg around if the
, it'll be a bit before I my this morning. <Kamping_Kaiser> kees, i've i wait another hour two. <Kamping_Kaiser> now, did i put that can of <Toadstool> RainCT: yep, I am <kees> Kamping_Kaiser: heh, ah, just got to it. RainCT has just installed it out and can only say.. "wow" :). Login is than second it has panel and everything (unlike openbox) and actually looks great :D <Kamping_Kaiser> kees, dont recall what i wrote, but since then i'm told that -security should stand so anything about confusion can ignored. bit about happens remains. RainCT, o_0 1 thats faster then e16 :o <RainCT> Toadstool:.. but I've got some untranslated entries in the menu (like and "Network"), happen to why happens? heh <RainCT> well, a new laptop here.. I'll try sister's PC later (which has 256MB RAM) <Toadstool> uh, er, I am using LANG=en_US here <kees> right, it is a bug that anything in would depend on -updates. it sounds like fixing the compiler glitch needs to move forward. is this a problem hardy, intrepid, or <Kamping_Kaiser> i its problem in (gNS bases off it), dont know about intrepid <kees> Kamping_Kaiser: okay kees, is there a bug about the gcc shuffle i to? like to keep tab on it. <kees> let ask the kernel team... ok. in i hang if the
, it'll be a bit before I get throuGh my email tHis moRniNg.  :)
<KAmPing_kaisEr> kees, i've waiteD To 3am, I'm sure i can wait another hOur or TwO.
<kampINg_kaiseR> now, wheRE dID I puT tHaT caN oF CaFfeinE...
<ToAdstool> rainCT: yep, I Am
<kEeS> Kamping_KaisER: hEh, ah, just goT to It.
 * RainCT has jUst InstalLeD it OUt and Can Only sAy.. "wow" :). LOGin timE is less thAn 1 SEcond aND it has pANEl And eVerything (unlike opENbOX) and actually loOks greAt :d
<kaMPIng_kaiSer> kees, donT rEcall EXactly wHAt I WROte, BUt since then i'm Told canonicALly That -seCuRitY Should Stand AlONe, sO anything abOut cOnfusion cAn be igNOred. the BIt about 'What haPpeNs nOw' reMAiNs.
<kamPiNG_KaISeR> RaINCT, O_0 1 second? tHaTs FasteR theN E16 :O
<rAinCt> ToAdstOol:.. buT I've got some unTraNslaTEd eNtrieS in thE menU (lIke "GaMe" and "NEtworK"), dO you happen to knoW why That happeNs?
<RAiNCT> HeH
<Rainct> well, iT's oN a nEw laptoP here.. I'lL Try It ON MY sIster's PC later (which HaS 256mb RaM)
<ToadstOol> RaiNcT: Uh, ER, no, I am usInG LAnG=en_us Here
<kEes> KAMpIng_KaiseR: right, IT iS a Bug that AnYthing In -SecUriTy wouLD depEnd on -uPdates.  it SoundS Like fixing the cOMpiler glitch nEEdS TO mOVe foRwaRd.
<kees> KampiNg_KaISer: iS thiS A pRobLEm for Hardy, InTRePId, or both?
<Kamping_KaisEr> Kees, i kNow itS a problem in haRdy (gNS baseS OFF it), dont kNow aBOuT Intrepid
<kees> KaMping_kaiser: okay
<kAmping_KaIser> kEes, is theRe a bug aboUT The gcc shUffLe i Can Sub TO? I'd Like to keep a taB ON it.
<kEeS> KampinG_KaIser: let Me aSk tHe kErnEl Team...
<KampiNg_Kaiser> KeEs, Ok. I'm In tHere tOO, so i can hAnG arOuNd iF the
, it'll be a bit before Iget throug h myema ilth is m orni ng.  :)
<Kampi n g_Ka iser> kees, i've waite d to3a m , i' m  s ure i  can wa i ta n oth er  h our  o r  t wo.
< Kam ping_Ka iser> now,  wh er e did i putt ha t can of c aff eine...
<Toa dst ool> R ai nCT :  yep,  Iam
<k ees> K a mping_ Kaiser: h eh ,  ah, j u st gott o  i t.
* RainCT has just in s talled it outand ca no nl y say .."wow" :).Lo gin t i me is l e ss t h an1  second and i t has panel and  every th ing (unlik e ope nb o x)and actuall y lo oks great  :D
<K a mping_K a iser> k ees, d ont  re call ex ac tly  w h ati  w rot e , b ut since  t he n i'm  tol d c a noni cal ly t hat - security shou ldstan d  al one,so an ythi ng  abou t conf usion  c an be ignored.thebit about  'w ha t h ap pensn ow' re mai ns. 
<Kampi ng_Kais e r>Ra i n C T,  o_0 1 second? tha ts f as ter then  e16 : o 
< Ra i nCT> Toa ds too l:.. b ut I' ve g o tsome unt ransla t ed  e ntriesin  the m en u ( lik e "Ga m e" a nd "Ne twork"),  do y o u happen to kn o w why that ha p pe n s ?< Rain CT>  heh
<RainC T> w e ll,it's on  an ew la ptophe r e. .  I'll try it on mysi ster's  PC l ater (which h as 256MB R A M ) 
<Toadst ool> Ra i nCT: uh, er, n o, Iam using L A NG=en_US  here 
<kees>Kamping_K a i ser: rig ht,  it  is  ab u gthat anything i n -s ec urity w oul d depen d o n - upd ate s.   it soun ds likefi xi ng  t hecompi l er glitc hnee ds  to  move forwar d.
<k ees>  K am p ing _Kaiser :  i s this  a  p robl emfo r har dy,i ntr epid, o r both?
< Kam p ing_ Ka is er> kee s, i know its  a  problem i nhar dy (gN S bases of f it), dont know abouti ntrepid 
<k ees>Kamp ing_Kaise r:okay
< Kam p ing_Ka iser>kees,  i s t h e re ab u gabo ut  the gcc s h u ffl e i c an  sub  to? i' d like to keep a t a b o n it.
<kees>Kam ping _ K ai ser :  l e t m ea skt h e kernel team.. .
<Kamping _K a is er> kees,o k.i' m in th ere too , soi  can ha ng around  if the
, it'll_be a_bit before I get_through my_email_this morning.__:)
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, i've_waited to 3am,_i'm sure i can_wait another hour_or_two.
<Kamping_Kaiser> now, where did i put that can of caffeine...
<Toadstool> RainCT: yep, I am
<kees>_Kamping_Kaiser:_heh, ah,_just_got_to it.
 * RainCT has_just installed it out and_can only_say.. "wow" :). Login time is less than_1_second and it_has panel and everything (unlike openbox) and actually looks_great :D
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, dont recall exactly_what i wrote,_but_since_then i'm told canonically_that -security should stand alone, so_anything about confusion can be ignored._the bit about 'what happens now' remains.
<Kamping_Kaiser>_RainCT, o_0 1 second? thats faster_then e16 :o
<RainCT> Toadstool:.. but_I've got_some untranslated entries in the_menu (like "Game"_and "Network"),_do you happen_to know why that happens?
<RainCT> heh
<RainCT>_well, it's on_a new laptop here.. I'll try_it_on my sister's_PC_later_(which has_256MB RAM)
<Toadstool> RainCT:_uh,_er, no,_I_am using LANG=en_US here
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: right,_it_is a bug that anything in -security_would depend on -updates.__it sounds like fixing_the compiler glitch needs to_move forward.
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: is this a_problem for_hardy, intrepid,_or both?
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees, i know its a problem in hardy (gNS_bases off it), dont know about_intrepid
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: okay
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees,_is there_a_bug about the_gcc_shuffle i_can sub to? i'd like to keep_a tab_on it.
<kees> Kamping_Kaiser: let me ask_the kernel team...
<Kamping_Kaiser> kees,_ok._i'm in there too, so i_can hang around if the