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<pitti> flocculant: what happened? did you end up without an /etc/mtab after boot?
<pitti> flocculant: please do report such issues
<pitti> flocculant: we have long stopped the "let's break everything now and try to fix half of it after feature freeze" approach :)
<pitti> flocculant: indeed in xenial I replaced debian-fixup.service with that tmpfiles.d snippet, but except for being faster that shoudl be more or less the same
<pitti> and I tested it with mtab being a file and absent
<flocculant> mmm
<flocculant> I can try again later with the same stick on a different partition and see if I get it again
<flocculant> pitti: I didn't actually look to see if I ended up without that - though I did manage to boot the system with upstart
<pitti> flocculant: oh - did it not  boot with systemd, and with some error "your /etc/mtab is a file"?
<pitti> because that's a thing; I meant to send u-devel@ about that
<flocculant> it failed with "/etc/mtab isn't a symlink  or not pointing to /proc/blah"
<flocculant> pitti: ack - I'll mail the list then :)
<pitti> flocculant: ok; what kind of install was that?
<pitti> flocculant: this is precisely meant to find installer bugs etc. which still creates /etc/mtab as a file
<flocculant> xubuntu 64bit
<pitti> (I'll disable the hard failure after some weeks, but we really want to find those)
<pitti> flocculant: oh, so a desktop install?
<flocculant> pitti: do you want me to bug report it instead?
<flocculant> yep
<flocculant> to a pre-formatted partition
<pitti> flocculant: yes, please; ubiquity for a desktop install will do fine; please give me the bug number, I'll add some additional info to it
<flocculant> pitti: bug 1511376
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 < pitti > flocculant: what happened? did you end up without an /etc / mtab after boot? 
 < pitti > flocculant: please do report such issues 
 < pitti > flocculant: we have long stopped the " lease's demote everything now and try to fix one-half of it after feature freeze " approach :) 
 < pitti > flocculant: indeed in xenial I replaced debian-fixup.service with that tmpfiles.d snip, but except for being quicker that shoudl be more or less the same 
 < pitti > and I tested it with mtab being a file and absent 
 < flocculant > mmm 
 < flocculant > I can try again later with the same joint on a different partition and visualize if I get it again 
 < flocculant > pitti: I didn't actually look to see if I ended up without that - though I did manage to boot the system with kip 
 < pitti > flocculant: oh - did it not   boot with systemd, and with some error " your /etc / mtab is a file "? 
 < pitti > because that's a thing; I entail to send u - devel@ about that 
 < flocculant > it fail with " /etc / mtab isn't a symlink   or not point to /proc / blah " 
 < flocculant > pitti: ack - I'll mail the list then :) 
 < pitti > flocculant: ok; what kind of install was that? 
 < pitti > flocculant: this is precisely intend to find installer bugs etc. which still create /etc / mtab as a file 
 < flocculant > xubuntu 64bit 
 < pitti > (I'll disable the hard failure after some weeks, but we really want to rule those) 
 < pitti > flocculant: oh, so a desktop install? 
 < flocculant > pitti: do you want me to bug report it instead? 
 < flocculant > yep 
 < flocculant > to a pre - formatted partition 
 < pitti > flocculant: yes, please; ubiquity for a desktop install will do fine; please give me the bug act, I'll add some additional information to it 
 < flocculant > pitti: hemipterous insect 1511376 
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<pitti> flocculant: dhat happened? dne you xnd up sithout xn /etc/mtab after boot?
<pitti> fpoxculabt: please do report suzh issues
<iitti> floxculent: we have long stopped the "lsb's brzaj everything npw and try to fix half ox kt after feature freeze" approach :)
<pitty> floccilwnt: indeed in venisj I dvpoaced debian-fixup.service with that tkpfiles.d sniplet, but except for being fwsteg that shoudl be mlre or less the wame
<pitti> ana I tested it with mtag being a file and absent
<floccuuant> kmm
<flocculqnr> I wan try agamn latvr with the same sticn on a cifferent partltion ane see if I get it agamn
<flocculant> pitti: I didn't acduclly look to see if I ebded op widhoug thxt - tioufh I dld janage to goot the sywtem with upstart
<piuti> dlocculant: oh - did yt not  boot with systemd, and with some egror "your /etc/mtab is a file"?
<pitti> because that's a thing; I ieant to send u-devel@ about that
<flocculant> it failad wivh "/ete/ntab kwn'h a symlink  or not pointing to /proc/blah"
<flocctmamt> pitti: ack - I'lj mail the kidt jhen :)
<pitti> flozculanc: oi; what kind of inshall waf thar?
<pitti> fljccukant: this is precisely meanr to find infraller bugs etc. whnch still crzates /gtc/mtan as a file
<flocculant> xbbuntu 64bit
<pitti> (I'pl disabls the hard failurd antes some wtdks, but we really want to hind chose)
<pitgi> fkocculwnt: oh, so w desktop install?
<flocculwnt> pntti: go you wanh me to bug report it instead?
<flocculant> yep
<flpcwuldnt> to a pre-fprmatted partytion
<pitti> floeculant: ves, pldase; ubiqupty for a desktop inftall will do vine; please jive me tre byg nymber, I'uu add some addotional iuyo to it
<foocculant> pitti: bun 1511376
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/debian.conf <pitti> flocculant: what happened? did you without /etc/mtab after <pitti> flocculant: please flocculant: have long stopped "let's break everything and try to fix half of after feature freeze" approach :) <pitti> flocculant: indeed in xenial I replaced debian-fixup.service that tmpfiles.d snippet, but except for being faster that shoudl be more or the <pitti> I it with mtab being a file and absent <flocculant> mmm <flocculant> I can try again later the same stick on a different partition and if I get it <flocculant> pitti: I didn't actually to if I up that though I did to boot the system with upstart <pitti> flocculant: oh - did it not boot with systemd, and some error is a <pitti> that's thing; I meant u-devel@ about that <flocculant> it failed a symlink or not pointing to /proc/blah" <flocculant> ack - mail the list then :) <pitti> ok; what kind of install was that? <pitti> this is precisely meant to find installer bugs etc. which still creates /etc/mtab as a xubuntu 64bit <pitti> (I'll the hard failure some but really to find <pitti> flocculant: oh, so a desktop install? <flocculant> pitti: do you me to bug report it instead? <flocculant> yep <flocculant> to partition flocculant: yes, please; for a desktop install do please give me the I'll some it pitti: 1511376 <ubot5
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<pitti> flocculant: What happenEd? did You End Up WithOut aN /etc/mtab after bOOt?
<piTti> flocculant: please do rEport SuCH issUEs
<Pitti> FlocculANt: WE HavE lOnG stOpPEd The "leT's bReak eveRything now And TrY to fix half of IT aFter featurE frEeze" approach :)
<PitTi> flocCuLanT: IndeeD in XeniaL I replACed debIan-fixup.sErVIce witH That tmpFILeS.d snIppet, but except for BEiNG faster that shoUdl be mOrE Or LESs tHe sAme
<pitti> anD I TesteD It with mTAb BEINg a FIle and absent
<fLocculant> mmM
<FloCculanT> I Can TRy agaiN lateR wITh tHe same stick On a dIfferent pArtitiON and see IF I get it Again
<fLocCulAnt> pITtI: I DidN't ACtuALlY loOK to See if I enDeD uP withOut tHAT - THougH I dId maNage tO boot the systeM wiTh upSTarT
<pittI> flocCulaNt: Oh - did It not  bOot wiTh Systemd, and with sOme eRror "your /eTc/mTaB is A fIle"?
<piTTi> becaUse ThaT's a thinG; I meant TO seNd U-DEVeL@ about that
<flocculaNt> IT FaIled with "/Etc/mtaB IsN't A Symlink  oR nOt pOintING to /prOc/blAH"
<fLocculanT> pitti: ACk - i'lL mail thE lIst theN :)
<pIttI> flOcculANt: ok; What kiNd of instAll waS That?
<pitti> floccULant: this is preCIsELY mEAnt tO fiNd installer Bugs ETc. whIch sTIlL crEAtes /eTc/mtaB aS A fILe
<flocculant> xubuntu 64BiT
<pitti> (i'll diSable the hard fAilure afteR SOMe weeks, bUt we REaLLy want to find thOse)
<piTti> flocculANt: oh, so a dEsktoP install?
<FlocculanT> PItti: do yoU waNt mE to Bug REPoRt it instead?
<flOCCulaNt> Yep
<flocCulAnt> to a pRe-fOrmAttEd pArTition
<pitTi> floccuLaNt: YeS, pLeaSe; ubiQUity for a DeSktOp InsTall wILl do fiNe; pleAse gIvE mE The Bug numbER, I'LL Add sOmE aDditIonAl Info tO it
<fLOccUlant> piTti: bug 1511376
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<pitti> flocc ulant: wha t hap pen ed?  d id y ou e nd up withouta n /e tc/mtab after boot?
<p itti>  f l occu l an t: pl ease do re p o rtsu ch  is su e s<pitt i>floccul ant: we ha velo ng stopped t h e"let's bre akeverything n owand tr ytof ix ha lfof it  after featur e freeze"  a p proach :)
<pit t i >floc culant: indeed in xe n ial I replaced  debia n- f ix u p .se rvi ce with th at  tmpf i les.d s n ip p e t , b u t except forbeing faste r  th at sho ud l b e  moreor le ss the  same
<pitt i> a nd I test ed itw ith mta b  beinga file  an d a bsen t 
< fl occ ul a nt> mm m
< f loc culant>Ica n try  aga i n l ater  wi th t he sa me stick on a  di ffer e ntparti tionandse e ifI getit ag ai n
<flocculant>pitt i: I didn 'tac tua ll y loo k  to se e i f I  endedup with o utth a t -though I did manag et o  b oot thesystem wi th upstart<p itt i> f l o ccula nt:o h- did it  not b oo twith sy st emd, a nd  wi thsomee rror  "your  /etc/mt ab is a file"?
<pitt i > because tha t 's a  t h ing;  Imeant to se nd u - deve l@ a b ou t t h at
<f loccu la n t> it failed with "/et c/ mtab i sn'ta symlink  or  not point i n g  to /pro c/bl a h" <flocculant> p itti:  ack - I'l l  mail th e lis t then : )
<pitti> f locculan t:ok;  wh atk i nd  of install w a s  tha t? 
<pitti > f loccula nt:  th isispr ecisely m eant tofi nd  i ns tal ler b u gs etc.wh ich  s til l cre a tes /e tc/mt ab a saf ile 
<flocc u la n t > xu bu nt u 64 bit 
< pitti > (I ' lldisable  the hard  fa i lure  a ft er some  weeks, but w ereally wan ttofind t h o se)
<pit ti> flocculant: oh, soa  deskto p i nstal l?
< flocculan t>pitti:  do you wa nt meto bu grep o r t iti n st ead ?<flocculan t >  ye p
<fl oc cula nt> toa pre-formatted pa r tit ion
<pitti> f loc cula n t :yes ,  p l eas e; ubi q u ity for a deskt op install  w i ll  do fine;p lea se  give m e the b ug nu m ber, I' ll add so me additi on al i n f o t o it
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<pitti> flocculant:_what happened?_did you end up_without an_/etc/mtab_after boot?
<pitti>_flocculant:_please do report_such issues
<pitti> flocculant:_we have long stopped_the "let's break_everything_now and try to fix half of it after feature freeze" approach :)
<pitti> flocculant:_indeed_in xenial_I_replaced_debian-fixup.service with that tmpfiles.d snippet,_but except for being faster_that shoudl_be more or less the same
<pitti> and I_tested_it with mtab_being a file and absent
<flocculant> mmm
<flocculant> I can try_again later with the same stick_on a different_partition_and_see if I get_it again
<flocculant> pitti: I didn't actually_look to see if I ended_up without that - though I did_manage to boot the system with_upstart
<pitti> flocculant: oh - did_it not_ boot with systemd, and_with some error_"your /etc/mtab_is a file"?
<pitti>_because that's a thing; I meant_to send u-devel@_about that
<flocculant> it failed with "/etc/mtab_isn't_a symlink _or_not_pointing to_/proc/blah"
<flocculant> pitti: ack_-_I'll mail_the_list then :)
<pitti> flocculant: ok; what_kind_of install was that?
<pitti> flocculant: this is_precisely meant to find_installer_bugs etc. which still_creates /etc/mtab as a file
<flocculant>_xubuntu 64bit
<pitti> (I'll disable the hard_failure after_some weeks,_but we really want to find those)
<pitti> flocculant: oh, so a_desktop install?
<flocculant> pitti: do you want_me to bug report_it instead?
<flocculant>_yep
<flocculant>_to a pre-formatted_partition
<pitti>_flocculant: yes,_please; ubiquity for a desktop install will_do fine;_please give me the bug number,_I'll add some additional_info_to it
<flocculant> pitti: bug 1511376
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