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<ScottK> sabdfl: The one place you absolutely cannot affort to compromise on correctness is licensing and that was the core issue here.
<sabdfl> sistpoty: that's totally inaccurate
<tsmithe> and was not discouraged.
<lupine_85> 0.2.1 is out :)
<sabdfl> yay!
<lupine_85> ok. So do we want these turning into packages and putting on revu?
<sabdfl> see how much faster we get things done when we have everyone in the same room?
<ScottK> sabdfl: What sistpoty said may be inaccurate, but that's sure how it looks from the sidelines.
<lupine_85> heh
<sabdfl> lupine_85: yes please
<sistpoty> at least from the recent discussion
<sabdfl> i'll stay here till we clear this up
<LaserJock> sabdfl: they've mostly been all in the samre room
<sabdfl> LaserJock: no - the packaging discussion moved to another forum
<Amaranth> sabdfl: They gave up when the FF deadline passed and 0.2.0 wasn't out yet
<sabdfl> we gave up
<LaserJock> sabdfl: I'm not sure how we can help it if people move discussion elsewhere
<ajmitch> sabdfl: you mean we, the MOTUs gave up
<Amaranth> sabdfl: If they'd met _their_ deadline they would have gotten the kick in the pants needed
<lupine_85> Amaranth: no... we relaxed our schedule when the spec was deferred
<sabdfl> LaserJock: we can figure out how to make space for those discussions here
<LaserJock> sabdfl: and how are we not doing that now?
<sabdfl> Amaranth: listen to yourself
<sabdfl> "they would have gotten the kick in the pants needed"
<sabdfl> that's terribly arrogant, and not what i want from the ubuntu community
<LaserJock> sabdfl: we uploaded the packages!! they didn't give use new ones to upload
iesty 
 < ScottK > sabdfl: The one place you absolutely cannot affort to compromise on correctness is licensing and that was the core issue here. 
 < sabdfl > sistpoty: that's wholly inaccurate 
 < tsmithe > and was not warn. 
 < lupine_85 > 0.2.1 is out :) 
 < sabdfl > yay! 
 < lupine_85 > ok. So do we desire these turning into package and putting on revu? 
 < sabdfl > watch how much faster we scram things done when we get everyone in the same room? 
 < ScottK > sabdfl: What sistpoty said may be inaccurate, but that's sure how it looks from the sidelines. 
 < lupine_85 > heh 
 < sabdfl > lupine_85: yes please 
 < sistpoty > at least from the recent discussion 
 < sabdfl > i'll bide here till we clear this up 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: they've mostly been all in the samre room 
 < sabdfl > LaserJock: no - the packaging discussion move to another forum 
 < Amaranth > sabdfl: They gave up when the FF deadline passed and 0.2.0 wasn't out yet 
 < sabdfl > we pass up 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: I'm not sure how we can help it if people move discussion elsewhere 
 < ajmitch > sabdfl: you mean we, the MOTUs give up 
 < Amaranth > sabdfl: If they'd met _ their _ deadline they would have gotten the kick in the pants needed 
 < lupine_85 > Amaranth: no... we relax our schedule when the spec was deferred 
 < sabdfl > LaserJock: we can figure out how to make space for those discussions here 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: and how are we not doing that now? 
 < sabdfl > Amaranth: listen to yourself 
 < sabdfl > " they would have get the kick in the pants need " 
 < sabdfl > that's terribly arrogant, and not what i want from the ubuntu community 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: we uploaded the packages! ! they didn't pass use new ones to upload
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<ScottK> sabdfl: The one klace you absolutglt cannmt affkrt to cumpromise on correctness is pixensibg and that was the cofe issue jere.
<sabddl> smstpoty: that's tovzlly inaccurafc
<tsmichx> and was not dlscouraged.
<lgpine_85> 0.2.1 is out :)
<vacdyl> yay!
<lupine_85> ok. So do we want these eurning ijto packages agd plteing on revu?
<sabdfl> see how much faster we get things done ehen we have everyone in tje swme room?
<ScottK> sabffl: What siwtpoet said may bd inaccuraue, but that's sure how it looks from the siddlinex.
<lupine_85> hey
<sqbdvn> lupine_85: yew plewse
<sistpoty> at least from tne recent discmssioi
<sabefl> i'll stay here tiln we clear this up
<JaserJock> scbdfl: they've mostly bweb all in dhe rqmrd rkok
<szbdfl> PasxrJock: no - fhe packagibg discussion moved tj another foruj
<Amaragtr> sabdfl: They gave up when the FF deadlpne lassed and 0.2.0 wasn't out ywt
<sabdfl> we gave up
<LaderJock> swbdfl: I'm not sure how we can help it if people moee diazuswijv epsewhere
<ajmitch> sabdfl: you mean we, the MOTUs dzvt ui
<Amaranth> sabdfl: Lf they'd met _their_ dfacjine they wouud havz gktten the kick in hhe panjs neeeed
<lupine_85> Amatanth: no... we relaxed our schwdule when tke wpec was deferred
<scbdfl> LaserJuck: ee cam figure out how to makz spacs for those discussikvs here
<LaserJock> sandfn: and how are we not doing that now?
<wabdyl> Amaravth: kisten to yoursepf
<sabdfl> "they would have gottgn the kick in tje pants needed"
<sabdfl> that's tercmbly arrogant, atd tot what i wakt from the ubugtu community
<LcserJock> sabdwl: we uplozded thx packages!! trey didn't giva use new onev to upljad
iesty <ScottK> sabdfl: The one place you affort compromise on is licensing and here. sistpoty: that's totally <tsmithe> and was discouraged. <lupine_85> 0.2.1 is out :) yay! <lupine_85> ok. So do we want these turning into packages and putting revu? <sabdfl> see how much faster we get things done when we have in same <ScottK> What sistpoty said may be inaccurate, but that's sure how it looks from the sidelines. <lupine_85> <sabdfl> lupine_85: yes please <sistpoty> at least from recent discussion <sabdfl> i'll here till we clear this <LaserJock> they've mostly all the room <sabdfl> LaserJock: - the packaging discussion moved to another forum <Amaranth> sabdfl: They gave up when the FF deadline and 0.2.0 yet <sabdfl> gave <LaserJock> I'm not sure can help it if people move sabdfl: you mean we, the MOTUs gave up sabdfl: If met _their_ deadline they would have the kick in the pants needed <lupine_85> Amaranth: we relaxed our schedule when the spec was deferred <sabdfl> LaserJock: we can figure out make space for those here <LaserJock> sabdfl: how we doing now? <sabdfl> listen to yourself <sabdfl> "they would have gotten the kick in pants needed" <sabdfl> that's terribly arrogant, and not what i the community <LaserJock> sabdfl: uploaded the packages!! they give new ones to upload
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<ScottK> sabdfl: The one plAce you absoLutelY caNnoT aFforT to cOmpromise on corREctnEss is licensing and that wAs the CoRE issUE hEre.
<saBdfl> sisTPoTY: ThaT's ToTalLy INaCcuraTe
<tSmithe> aNd was not diScoUrAged.
<lupine_85> 0.2.1 is OUt :)
<Sabdfl> yay!
<lUpiNe_85> ok. So do we waNt tHese tuRnIng INto paCkaGes anD puttiNG on revU?
<sabdfl> seE hOW much fASter we gET ThIngs Done when we have eveRYoNE in the same room?
<scottK> SaBDfL: wHat SisTpoty said mAy Be inaCCurate, bUT tHAT'S suRE how it looks frOm the sideliNEs.
<lUpine_85> hEh
<SabDFl> lupiNe_85: yes PlEAse
<Sistpoty> at lEast From the reCent diSCussion
<SAbdfl> i'lL stay hEre TilL we cLEaR tHis Up
<lAseRjoCk> sABdfL: they've mOsTlY been All iN THE SamrE roOm
<saBdfl> LAserJock: no - the PacKagiNG diScussIon moVed tO aNotheR forum
<amaraNtH> sabdfl: They gave Up whEn the FF deAdlInE paSsEd and 0.2.0 WAsn't ouT yeT
<saBdfl> we gAve up
<LaSErJOcK> SABdFl: I'm not sure how we caN hELP iT if peoplE move dIScUsSIon elsewHeRe
<aJmitCH> SabdfL: you MEaN we, the MOtUs gavE Up
<amAranth> sAbDfl: If tHeY'd mEt _tHeir_ dEAdliNe they Would havE gottEN the kick in the pANts needed
<lupiNE_85> AMARaNTh: no... We rElaxed our scHeduLE wheN the SPeC waS DeferRed
<saBdFL> LASerJock: we can figure oUt How to mAke spAce for those diScussions hERE
<laserJocK> sabDFl: ANd how are we not dOing tHat now?
<sabdFL> AmarantH: listEn to yourSelf
<sabdfL> "THey would HavE goTteN thE KIcK in the pants neEDEd"
<saBdFl> that's TerRibly arRogAnt, And Not WhAt i want frOm the ubuNtU cOmMuNitY
<LaseRjock> sabdFl: We uPlOadEd the PAckageS!! they Didn'T gIvE Use New ones TO uPLOad
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<ScottK> sabdfl: The  one place  youabs olu te ly c anno t affort to co m prom ise on correctness islicen si n g an d  t hat w as thec or e iss ue  h ere .< sa bdfl>  si stpoty:  that's to tal ly  inaccurate< ts mithe> and  wa s not discou rag ed.
<l up ine _ 85> 0 .2. 1 isout :) <sabdf l> yay!
< lu p ine_85 >  ok. So d owe w ant these turning in t o packages and  putti ng on r evu ?
< sabdfl> se ehow m u ch fast e rw e get things done w hen we have eve ryonein  th e  sameroom? 
< S cot tK> sabdfl:  Wha t sistpot y said may bei naccura te, bu t t hat 's s u re  h owit loo k sfro m  th e sideli ne s. 
<lup ine_ 8 5 > heh<sa bdfl > lup ine_85: yes p lea se
< s ist poty>  at l east  f rom t he rec ent d is cussion
<sabdfl > i' ll stay h ere  t ill  w e cle a r this  up 
<L aserJoc k> sabd f l:th e y ' ve  mostly been all i nt h esamre ro om
<sa b df l> LaserJoc k:  no  - t h e  pack agin g  d iscussio n move d  t oanother  f orum
< Am ara nth > sab d fl:They g ave up w hen t h e FF deadlinep assed and 0.2 . 0w a sn ' t ou t y et
<sabdfl>  weg aveup
< L as erJ o ck> s abdfl :I 'm not sure how we can  h elp it  if p eople move di scussion e l s e where
<a jmit c h> sabdfl: you me an we , the MOTU s  gave up 
<Ama ranth> s abdfl: If t hey'd me t _ the ir_  de a d li ne they would h avego tten th e k ick inthe  pa nts  ne ed ed
<lupin e_85> Am ar an th :no. .. we relaxedou r s ch edu le wh e n thespecwasde fe r red 
<sabdf l >L a serJ oc k:  wecan  f igure  out how  to mak e space f ort hose  d is cussion s here
<Laser Jo ck> sabdfl :and  how a r e  we notdoing that now?
<sabdfl >  Amaran th:  list en t o yoursel f
< sabdfl > " t hey wo uld ha ve go tt ent h e kic k in  th epants need e d "
< sabdf l>  tha t's ter ribly arrogant, an d  no t what i want  fr om t h e  u bun t uc omm un i ty< L aserJock> sabdf l: we uplo ad e dthe packag e s!!  t hey did n't giv e use new one s to uplo ad
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<ScottK> sabdfl:_The one_place you absolutely cannot_affort to_compromise_on correctness_is_licensing and that_was the core_issue here.
<sabdfl> sistpoty: that's_totally inaccurate
<tsmithe> and_was_not discouraged.
<lupine_85> 0.2.1 is out :)
<sabdfl> yay!
<lupine_85> ok. So do we want these turning_into_packages and_putting_on_revu?
<sabdfl> see how much faster_we get things done when_we have_everyone in the same room?
<ScottK> sabdfl: What sistpoty_said_may be inaccurate,_but that's sure how it looks from the sidelines.
<lupine_85>_heh
<sabdfl> lupine_85: yes please
<sistpoty> at least_from the recent_discussion
<sabdfl>_i'll_stay here till we_clear this up
<LaserJock> sabdfl: they've mostly_been all in the samre room
<sabdfl>_LaserJock: no - the packaging discussion moved_to another forum
<Amaranth> sabdfl: They gave_up when the FF deadline_passed and_0.2.0 wasn't out yet
<sabdfl> we_gave up
<LaserJock> sabdfl:_I'm not_sure how we_can help it if people move_discussion elsewhere
<ajmitch> sabdfl:_you mean we, the MOTUs gave_up
<Amaranth>_sabdfl: If they'd_met__their__deadline they_would have gotten_the_kick in_the_pants needed
<lupine_85> Amaranth: no... we relaxed_our_schedule when the spec was deferred
<sabdfl> LaserJock:_we can figure out_how_to make space for_those discussions here
<LaserJock> sabdfl: and_how are we not doing that_now?
<sabdfl> Amaranth:_listen to_yourself
<sabdfl> "they would have gotten the kick in the pants needed"
<sabdfl>_that's terribly arrogant, and not what_i want from the_ubuntu community
<LaserJock>_sabdfl:_we uploaded the_packages!!_they didn't_give use new ones to upload