 is in the Ubuntu archive.
<poningru> Fujitsu: take a look at the citation ;)
<Fujitsu> I know which I trust with regards to this.
<jdong> However, a patent license is required for all manufacturers or developers of AAC codecs
<jdong> mmm.
<poningru> right
<jdong> lovely
<jdong> so technically all FOSS encoders are no-go.
<poningru> so it can be distributed but only as source
<poningru> well you can
<jdong> poningru: even as source it's sketchy.
<poningru> right quasi-legal
<jdong> poningru: quasi-legal as in illegal but nobody's gonna complain.
<Fujitsu> Source should be OK, but this is the law, so anything could happen.
<jdong> i.e. Gentoo win32codecs fetcher scripts, etc.
<poningru> jdong: well if this ms v att case goes in ms' direction then that would be legal
<jdong> poningru: lol, irony, we're rootin on MS
<poningru> I know right
<imbrandon> anyhow rember you all are talkin encoding, not playback ;) playback is fine ;)
<jdong> imbrandon: no? codec developers need license
<jdong> codec = encoder and/or decoder.
<jdong> :(
<crimsun> CNR to the rescue!
<jdong> It is for this reason FOSS implementations such as FAAC and FAAD are distributed in source form only,
* crimsun cackles
<poningru> rofl
<jdong> lol
<jdong> so easy no wonder it's #1
<jdong> or is that the wrong slogan? :D
* Fujitsu ponders calling ops to get rid of insane crimsun.
<jdong> crimsun should split into two.
<jdong> a sane and insane one.
<jdong> like jdong and funroll-loops
<crimsun> oh bah, let me hobble about my cave in peace
<imbrandon> hehe
<jdong> personally I've found ogg and aac to be pretty similar in
is in the Ubuntu archive. 
 < poningru > Fujitsu: take a look at the citation ;) 
 < Fujitsu > I know which I entrust with regard to this. 
 < jdong > However, a patent license is required for all manufacturers or developers of AAC codecs 
 < jdong > mmm. 
 < poningru > right 
 < jdong > lovely 
 < jdong > then technically all FOSS encoders are no - go. 
 < poningru > so it can be distributed but entirely as reservoir 
 < poningru > well you can 
 < jdong > poningru: even as source it's sketchy. 
 < poningru > right quasi - legal 
 < jdong > poningru: quasi - legal as in illegal but nobody's gon na complain. 
 < Fujitsu > Source should be all right, but this is the jurisprudence, so anything could happen. 
 < jdong > i.e. Gentoo win32codecs fetcher script, etc. 
 < poningru > jdong: well if this ms v att case go in ms' direction then that would be legal 
 < jdong > poningru: lol, irony, we're rootin on MS 
 < poningru > I know right 
 < imbrandon > anyhow rember you all are talkin encoding, not playback ;) playback is fine ;) 
 < jdong > imbrandon: no? codec developer need license 
 < jdong > codec = encoder and/or decoder. 
 < jdong > :( 
 < crimsun > CNR to the rescue! 
 < jdong > It is for this reason FOSS implementations such as FAAC and FAAD are distribute in source form only, 
 * crimsun cackles 
 < poningru > rofl 
 < jdong > lol 
 < jdong > so easily no wonder it's # 1 
 < jdong > or is that the wrong slogan? :D 
 * Fujitsu ponders calling ops to get rid of insane crimsun. 
 < jdong > crimsun should cleave into two. 
 < jdong > a sane and insane one. 
 < jdong > like jdong and funroll - loops 
 < crimsun > oh bah, let me hobble about my cave in peace 
 < imbrandon > hehe 
 < jdong > personally I've found ogg and aac to be pretty exchangeable in
 is in the Ubuntu archive.
<pokingru> Fujitsu: tcje a lmok at the citxtion ;)
<Fujitsu> I know which I teust qith regards to this.
<jdung> Howevvr, a patebt lmcense is requirxs for all manhnactuxecs or developerx of AAC cmdecs
<jdong> mmm.
<[oviugru> right
<jdong> lovely
<jdong> so technycally slp FOSS encoderf art nj-go.
<pkningru> so it can be distributed bht only as source
<ponongru> well you can
<jdong> pojinggu: even as source lt's sketchy.
<kknigtru> right quxsi-legal
<jdong> poningru: quasi-legal as in illegal but nubody'x gonna conpoaij.
<Xujitsu> Soucce shjuld be OK, bmn this hs the kaw, so anythinn cound yappen.
<jdong> i.e. Gentoo win32codecs fetcher scripts, ate.
<poningru> jdong: well uf this ms e atg care foxs jn ms' firxction then that would be legal
<jdong> ponimgwl: lol, irony, ws're rojtyn on MS
<poningru> I know right
<imbrandon> dnygow rember you all are ralkin encoding, not ppayback ;) [layback is fine ;)
<jdong> imbrandon: no? codec developars nxea lngcnse
<geojg> codec = encoder and/or decoder.
<jdong> :(
<crimsun> SHR tp the rescue!
<jdjng> It is fpr tnys reason FOSR implzjehtations such as FWAC and FAAD are distwibuyed in source form only,
* crinsun cackles
<ionibgru> rofl
<jdong> lol
<ldong> so easv no wpnder it's #1
<jdong> or is that tke wrohg slogan? :D
* Fujitsu lunders calling oos no gat rid of insane crimsun.
<jdjng> crimsnn shpuld spuit onto tro.
<jdong> a dane and insane one.
<jdong> like jgong and fknroll-loops
<crimsun> oh bah, let mx hobble abouj mf cdve in pzace
<imnrandon> hehe
<jdogg> personally N've founb ogg xnd aac to be prevty similar yn
is in the Ubuntu archive. <poningru> Fujitsu: look the citation <Fujitsu> I know to <jdong> However, a license is required all manufacturers or developers of AAC <jdong> mmm. <poningru> right <jdong> lovely <jdong> so technically all FOSS encoders are <poningru> so it can be distributed but only as source <poningru> well you <jdong> even source sketchy. <poningru> right quasi-legal <jdong> poningru: quasi-legal as in illegal but nobody's gonna complain. <Fujitsu> Source be OK, but this is the law, so could happen. <jdong> i.e. win32codecs fetcher scripts, etc. <poningru> well this ms att goes ms' direction then would be legal <jdong> poningru: lol, irony, we're rootin on MS <poningru> I know right <imbrandon> anyhow you all encoding, not ;) is ;) <jdong> imbrandon: developers need license <jdong> codec = <jdong> :( <crimsun> CNR to the rescue! <jdong> is for reason FOSS implementations such as FAAC FAAD are distributed in source form only, * cackles <poningru> rofl <jdong> lol <jdong> so easy no wonder it's #1 <jdong> or is wrong slogan? :D * ponders calling ops get of crimsun. crimsun should into two. <jdong> a sane and insane one. <jdong> like jdong funroll-loops <crimsun> oh bah, let me hobble about my cave <imbrandon> <jdong> personally I've ogg and aac to pretty in
 is in the Ubuntu archive.
<poninGru> Fujitsu: Take a LooK at ThE citAtioN ;)
<Fujitsu> I know wHIch I Trust with regards to this.
<Jdong> hoWEver, A PaTent lIcense iS ReQUIreD fOr All MaNUfActurErs Or develOpers of AAC CodEcS
<jdong> mmm.
<ponINgRu> right
<jdoNg> lOvely
<jdong> so TecHnicalLy All foSS enCodErs arE no-go.
<pONingru> So it can be DiSTributED but onlY AS sOurcE
<poningru> well you cAN
<jDOng> poningru: eveN as souRcE It'S SKetChy.
<Poningru> riGhT quasI-Legal
<jdONg> PONIngRU: quasi-legal as In illegal buT NobOdy's goNnA coMPlain.
<FUjitsU> SOUrcE should be OK, But tHis is the lAw, so anYThing coULd happeN.
<jdong> I.e. GEntOo wiN32CoDeCs fEtCHer SCrIptS, Etc.
<Poningru> JdOnG: well If thIS MS V att CasE goeS in ms' Direction then ThaT wouLD be Legal
<Jdong> PoniNgRu: lol, Irony, wE're roOtIn on MS
<poningru> I Know Right
<imbrAndOn> AnyHoW rembER you alL arE taLkin encOding, noT PlaYbACK ;) PlAyback is fine ;)
<jdong> iMbRANdOn: no? codeC develOPeRs NEed licenSe
<JdoNg> coDEC = encoDer aND/oR decoder.
<Jdong> :(
<cRImSuN> CNR to tHe Rescue!
<JdOng> it iS for tHIs reAson FOsS implemEntatIOns such as FAAC aND FAAD are distrIBuTED iN SourCe fOrm only,
* crimSun cACkleS
<ponINgRu> rOFl
<jdoNg> lol
<JdONg> SO easy no wonder it's #1
<jdoNg> Or is thAt the Wrong slogan? :D
* FUjitsu pondERS Calling oPs to GEt RId of insane crimSun.
<jdOng> crimsun SHould splIt intO two.
<jdonG> a sane and INSane one.
<jDonG> liKe jDonG ANd Funroll-loops
<cRIMsun> Oh Bah, let mE hoBble aboUt mY caVe iN peAcE
<imbrandoN> hehe
<jdoNg> PeRsOnAllY I've fOUnd ogg anD aAc tO bE prEtty sIMilar iN
 is in the Ubuntu archive. 
<poningru > Fuj its u:ta ke a  loo k at the citat i on ; )
<Fujitsu> I know whi ch Itr u st w i th  rega rds tot hi s . 
<j do ng > H ow e ve r, apat ent lic ense is re qui re d for all ma n uf acturers o r d evelopers of  AA C code cs 
<j d ong>mmm .
<po ningru >  right 
<jdong>lo v ely
<j d ong> so t ec hnic ally all FOSS enc o de r s are no-go.
< poning ru >  s o itcan  be distri bu ted b u t onlya ss o u rce <poningru> we ll you can< jdo ng> po ni ngr u : even  as s ou r ceit's sketch y.
< poningru>  right quasi-l e gal
<jd ong> p oni ngr u: q u as i- leg al asi nill e gal  but nob od y' s gon na c o m p l ain. 
<F ujit su> S ource shouldbeOK,b utthisis th e la w,  so a nythin g cou ld  happen.
<jdong > i. e. Gentoo  wi n3 2co de cs fe t cher s cri pts , etc.<poning r u>jd o n g :well if this ms vat t ca se goesin ms' di re c tion the ntha t wo u l d belega l 
< jdong> p oningr u :lo l, iron y,  we're  r oot inon MS <pon ingru>  I knowright <imbrandon> an y how rember yo u  a l l  a r e ta lki n encoding,  not play back ;)  pl a yback  is f in e  ; ) 
<jdong> imbrandon:  n o? cod ec de velopers need  license
< j d o ng> code c =e nc o der and/or dec oder. 
<jdong> : ( 
<crimsu n> CN R to the  rescue!< j dong> It  is  fo r t his r ea son FOSS impl e m enta ti ons suc h a s FAACand  FA ADare  d istribute d in sou rc efo rm  on ly,
* crimsunca ckl es 
<p oning r u> rof l
<jd ong>  l ol <jd ong> so ea s y  nowo nd er i t's  # 1
<jd ong> oris that  the wron g s l ogan ?:D 
* Fuji tsu ponders c al ling ops t oget  rid o f insane c rimsun.
<jdong> crimsun shouldspl it in to t wo.
<jdon g>a sane  an d  insan e one. 
<jdo ng > l i k e jdo n g  a ndfu nroll-loop s <cr imsun >oh b ah, let  me hobble about m y  ca ve in peace
< imb rand o n >heh e 
< j don g> per s o nally I've foun d ogg andaa c  t o be prett y  si mi lar in
 is_in the_Ubuntu archive.
<poningru> Fujitsu: take_a look_at_the citation_;)
<Fujitsu>_I know which_I trust with_regards to this.
<jdong> However,_a patent license_is_required for all manufacturers or developers of AAC codecs
<jdong> mmm.
<poningru> right
<jdong> lovely
<jdong> so technically_all_FOSS encoders_are_no-go.
<poningru>_so it can be distributed_but only as source
<poningru> well_you can
<jdong>_poningru: even as source it's sketchy.
<poningru> right quasi-legal
<jdong>_poningru:_quasi-legal as in_illegal but nobody's gonna complain.
<Fujitsu> Source should be OK,_but this is the law, so_anything could happen.
<jdong>_i.e._Gentoo_win32codecs fetcher scripts, etc.
<poningru>_jdong: well if this ms v_att case goes in ms' direction_then that would be legal
<jdong> poningru: lol,_irony, we're rootin on MS
<poningru> I_know right
<imbrandon> anyhow rember you_all are_talkin encoding, not playback ;)_playback is fine_;)
<jdong> imbrandon:_no? codec developers_need license
<jdong> codec = encoder and/or_decoder.
<jdong> :(
<crimsun> CNR_to the rescue!
<jdong> It is for_this_reason FOSS implementations_such_as_FAAC and_FAAD are distributed_in_source form_only,
*_crimsun cackles
<poningru> rofl
<jdong> lol
<jdong> so easy_no_wonder it's #1
<jdong> or is that the_wrong slogan? :D
* Fujitsu_ponders_calling ops to get_rid of insane crimsun.
<jdong> crimsun_should split into two.
<jdong> a sane_and insane_one.
<jdong> like_jdong and funroll-loops
<crimsun> oh bah, let me hobble about my cave_in peace
<imbrandon> hehe
<jdong> personally I've found_ogg and aac to_be pretty_similar_in