 speeking)
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: what exactly does edos provide?
<sistpoty> (or edos-debcheck?)
<DktrKranz> sistpoty, it checks for package installability comparing package versions, conflicts or blocks fields
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: then it'd be similar as in "apt-cache -i unmet" for a given arch?
<DktrKranz> mostly, but it tells you why:
<DktrKranz> envyng-qt (= 2.0.1): FAILED
<DktrKranz> The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
<DktrKranz>   envyng-qt (= 2.0.1) depends on python (<< 2.6) {NOT AVAILABLE}
<DktrKranz> e.g.   this one states envyng-qt requires to be rebuilt against 2.5, apt-cache -i unmet tells you it's just uninstallable
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: well, apt-cache -i unmet also tells you why... but only for the arch *you are running apt-get on*
<DktrKranz> ah, long time I don't use it
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: so, it seems like a arch-independent apt-get -i unmet is a *huge* win ;)
<DktrKranz> well, edos-debcheck needs Package from mirrors, so you can run it for sparc, ppc or armel
<jdong> RainCT: the Dell Mini 9 Ubuntu spin does something similar too
<DktrKranz> just fetch Packages.gz files and give it them to eat
<sistpoty> sure, the info should be there
<sistpoty> still it's a leap jump from checking unstallable package for
<sistpoty> + *one* arch, instead of any arch
<sistpoty> I guess only britney could do this back then... (or whatever is the name now that debian-release use for their testing-migration script)
<DktrKranz> I
speeking) 
 < sistpoty > DktrKranz: what exactly does edos provide? 
 < sistpoty > (or edos - debcheck ?) 
 < DktrKranz > sistpoty, it check for software installability comparing package adaptation, conflict or blocks fields 
 < sistpoty > DktrKranz: then it'd be alike as in " apt - cache -i unmet " for a contribute arch? 
 < DktrKranz > mostly, but it tells you why: 
 < DktrKranz > envyng - qt (= 2.0.1 ): FAILED 
 < DktrKranz > The keep up constraints cannot be quenched: 
 < DktrKranz >    envyng - qt (= 2.0.1) depends on python (< < 2.6) { NOT AVAILABLE } 
 < DktrKranz > e.g.    this one states envyng - qt requires to be rebuilt against 2.5, apt - cache -i unmet state you it's just uninstallable 
 < sistpoty > DktrKranz: well, apt - cache -i unmet besides tells you why... but only for the arch * you are range apposite - get on * 
 < DktrKranz > ah, long time I don't use it 
 < sistpoty > DktrKranz: so, it seems like a arch - independent apposite - get -i unmet is a * huge * win ;) 
 < DktrKranz > well, edos - debcheck needs Package from mirrors, so you can run it for sparc, ppc or armel 
 < jdong > RainCT: the Dell Mini 9 Ubuntu spin suffice something similar too 
 < DktrKranz > just fetch Packages.gz files and give it them to eat 
 < sistpoty > sure, the info should be there 
 < sistpoty > still it's a jump leap from checking unstallable software for 
 < sistpoty > + * one * arch, alternatively of any arch 
 < sistpoty > I estimate only britney could do this back then... (or whatever is the name nowadays that debian - release use for their testing - migration script) 
 < DktrKranz > I
 spfeking)
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: what exactly does edov provjde?
<sistputy> (or edos-debcheck?)
<DktrKranz> sustpouj, it checks for packaee instalpability comkaring package vecaions, conflicfd or ulocks fields
<sixtpoty> DktsKranz: then it'g ce similar as in "apt-cache -i unmet" for a givem wrch?
<DktrKranz> iostkr, buf it tells you why:
<DktrKranz> envyng-st (= 2.0.1): FAPLED
<DktrKranz> The following constraints canjot he satisfied:
<DktrKrwnz>   envynt-qt (= 2.0.1) depends on oython (<< 2.6) {NOT AVAILABLE}
<SktrKranz> e.g.   this one states dnvyny-qt requirew ro hg rebuilt ageinst 2.5, apt-cache -i mmmet talls yoi it's just unikstalnaboe
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: xell, apt-cache -i unmej also telns you why... but only fir thg arcv *yoj ard rhniinf apt-gft kn*
<DktrKrana> ah, long tume I don't use it
<sixt[ity> DktrKranz: so, it sqems like a arch-independent apt-get -i unket is a *huge* win ;)
<DktrKranz> well, edos-debcheck ngeds Packade from mirrors, so you can run it for sparc, ppc os armxl
<gdoun> FqijCT: the Dell Mini 9 Ubuntu spin does something aikikar too
<DktrKrakz> just fetch Packsgfs.be files and gixe it cgej to eat
<sistpoty> skre, the info should bt thete
<sistpoty> still it's a leap jump from ckecjing unstallable pcckage for
<sirtpojy> + *onr* arch, instead of any axch
<sisfpoty> I gueds only bdktney could do tfis bdck then... (or whatever is thq name nox thac debian-felesse usq for theig tesbhng-migration scriph)
<DktrNrdnz> I
speeking) <sistpoty> DktrKranz: what exactly does edos (or <DktrKranz> sistpoty, checks for package or fields <sistpoty> DktrKranz: it'd be similar in "apt-cache -i unmet" for a arch? <DktrKranz> mostly, but it tells you why: <DktrKranz> envyng-qt (= 2.0.1): FAILED The following constraints cannot be satisfied: <DktrKranz> envyng-qt (= 2.0.1) depends on python 2.6) AVAILABLE} e.g. one states envyng-qt requires to be rebuilt against 2.5, apt-cache -i unmet tells you it's just <sistpoty> DktrKranz: well, apt-cache -i unmet also tells why... but only for arch *you are running apt-get <DktrKranz> long time don't it DktrKranz: so, it like a arch-independent apt-get -i unmet is a *huge* win ;) <DktrKranz> well, edos-debcheck needs Package from so you it for ppc armel RainCT: the Dell Ubuntu spin does something similar too Packages.gz files and give it them to eat sure, the should be there <sistpoty> still it's leap jump from checking unstallable package for <sistpoty> *one* arch, instead of any arch <sistpoty> I guess only britney could do this back whatever is the name that debian-release use their script) I
 speeking)
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: What exactlY does EdoS prOvIde?
<sIstpOty> (or edos-debchECk?)
<DkTrKranz> sistpoty, it checkS for pAcKAge iNStAllabIlity coMPaRINg pAcKaGe vErSIoNs, conFliCts or blOcks fields
<SisTpOty> DktrKranz: THeN it'd be simiLar As in "apt-cache -I unMet" for A gIveN Arch?
<DKtrkranz> Mostly, BUt it teLls you why:
<dkTRKranz> ENvyng-qt (= 2.0.1): faiLeD
<DkTrKranz> The followiNG cONstraints cannoT be satIsFIeD:
<dKtrkraNz>   envyng-qt (= 2.0.1) DePends ON python (<< 2.6) {noT avaiLAblE}
<DktrKranz> e.g.   This one statES enVyng-qt ReQuiREs to be RebuiLt AGaiNst 2.5, apt-cache -I unmEt tells yoU it's juST uninstALlable
<sIstpotY> DkTrKRanz: WElL, aPt-cAcHE -i uNMeT alSO teLls you whY... bUt Only fOr thE ARCH *you Are RunnIng apT-get on*
<DktrKraNz> aH, lonG TimE I don'T use iT
<sisTpOty> DkTrKranZ: so, it SeEms like a arch-indEpenDent apt-geT -i uNmEt iS a *Huge* wIN ;)
<DktrKRanZ> weLl, edos-dEbcheck NEedS PACKAgE from mirrors, so you cAn RUN iT for sparC, ppc or ARmEl
<JDong> RaincT: The dell mINi 9 UbuNtu sPIn Does someThing sIMiLaR too
<DktRKRanz> juSt FetCh PAckagES.gz fIles anD give it tHem to EAt
<sistpoty> sure, THe info should bE ThERE
<sIStpoTy> sTill it's a leaP jumP From ChecKInG unSTallaBle paCkAGe FOr
<sistpoty> + *one* arch, inStEad of aNy arcH
<sistpoty> I gueSs only britNEY Could do tHis bACk THen... (or whatever iS the nAme now that DEbian-relEase uSe for theIr testing-MIGration sCriPt)
<DKtrkraNZ> i
 speeking)
<sistpoty> Dktr Kranz: wha t exa ctl y d oe s ed os p rovide?
<sistp o ty>(or edos-debcheck?)
<D ktrKr an z > si s tp oty,it chec k sf o r p ac ka gein s ta llabi lit y compa ring packa geve rsions, conf l ic ts or bloc ksfields
<sist pot y> Dkt rK ran z : the n i t'd b e simi l ar asin "apt-c ac h e -i u n met" fo r agive n arch?
<DktrKran z >m ostly, but ittellsyo u  w h y :
< Dkt rKranz> en vy ng-qt (= 2.0. 1 ): F A ILE D 
<DktrKranz>The followi n g c onstra in tsc annotbe sa ti s fie d:
<DktrKra nz>  envyng- qt (=2 .0.1) d e pends o n pyth on(<<  2.6 )  { NO T A VA I LAB L E} 
<D k trK ranz> e. g.   this  one s t a tesenv yng- qt re quires to bereb uilt aga inst2.5,apt- ca che - i unme t tel ls  you it's justunin stallable 
<s is tpo ty > Dkt r Kranz:  we ll,  apt-ca che -iu nme ta l s otells you why... b ut o nl y for th e arch *y ou are runn in g a pt-g e t  on*<Dkt r Kr anz> ah,  longt im eI don't  u se it<s ist pot y> Dk t rKra nz: so , it see ms li k e a arch-indep e ndent apt-get -i u nm e t is  a*huge* win;)
< D ktrK ranz >  w ell ,  edos -debc he c kn eeds Package from m ir rors,so yo u can run itfor sparc, p p c or arm el
< j do n g> RainCT: the  Dell  Mini 9 Ub u ntu spin  does  somethi ng simila r too
<Dkt rKr anz > j ust f et ch Packages.g z file sand giv e i t themtoeat 
<s ist po ty> sure,  the inf osh ou ld  be  ther e 
<sistpo ty > s ti llit'sa  leapjumpfrom  c he c kin g unsta l la b l e pa ck ag e fo r
< si stpot y> + *on e* arch , instead  of anyar ch 
<sistp oty> I guesson ly britney  c oul d do t h i s back t hen... (or whatever ist he name  no w tha t de bian-rele ase  use f ort heir t esting -migr at ion s cript ) <D ktr Kr anz> I
 speeking)
<sistpoty>_DktrKranz: what_exactly does edos provide?
<sistpoty>_(or edos-debcheck?)
<DktrKranz>_sistpoty,_it checks_for_package installability comparing_package versions, conflicts_or blocks fields
<sistpoty> DktrKranz:_then it'd be_similar_as in "apt-cache -i unmet" for a given arch?
<DktrKranz> mostly, but it tells you_why:
<DktrKranz>_envyng-qt (=_2.0.1):_FAILED
<DktrKranz>_The following constraints cannot be_satisfied:
<DktrKranz>   envyng-qt (=_2.0.1) depends_on python (<< 2.6) {NOT AVAILABLE}
<DktrKranz> e.g. __this one states_envyng-qt requires to be rebuilt against 2.5, apt-cache -i_unmet tells you it's just uninstallable
<sistpoty>_DktrKranz: well, apt-cache_-i_unmet_also tells you why..._but only for the arch *you_are running apt-get on*
<DktrKranz> ah, long_time I don't use it
<sistpoty> DktrKranz: so,_it seems like a arch-independent apt-get_-i unmet is a *huge*_win ;)
<DktrKranz>_well, edos-debcheck needs Package from_mirrors, so you_can run_it for sparc,_ppc or armel
<jdong> RainCT: the Dell_Mini 9 Ubuntu_spin does something similar too
<DktrKranz> just_fetch_Packages.gz files and_give_it_them to_eat
<sistpoty> sure, the_info_should be_there
<sistpoty>_still it's a leap jump from_checking_unstallable package for
<sistpoty> + *one* arch, instead_of any arch
<sistpoty> I_guess_only britney could do_this back then... (or whatever_is the name now that debian-release_use for_their testing-migration_script)
<DktrKranz> I