Xoritor> well i figure if i can get the stuff built and maintain it for dapper then by the next release it may be fixed ;-)
<Xoritor> or updated
<Xoritor> or upgraded
<Xoritor> or...
<Xoritor> so thats what i am doing... fixing it myself and seeing if the maintainers want to use what i have done
<Xoritor> but then thats the "hard way"
<Xoritor> asking them for a fix is the easy way...
<LarstiQ> the debian package works fine, so not much work required I'd say
<Xoritor> so its up to you... fix it yourself and suggest your fix be used, or ask them to fix it
<Xoritor> i prefer to do the work and let them choose if they want to use it... and if they dont i still can
<LarstiQ> right.
<Xoritor> if i were the maintainer and someone fixed it for me i would be happy (if they did it right)... and after checking i would happily include it (again if it were done right)
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: is the zsh version too old in Ubuntu or in Debian too?
<LarstiQ> LaserJock: only in Ubuntu
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: we could ask for a UVF exception
<LarstiQ> LaserJock: I believe the Sid version was at 4.3 before the UVF set in, but my memory might fool me
<LaserJock> zsh |    4.3.1-1 |      unstable
<LaserJock> zsh | 4.2.5-23ubuntu2 |        dapper
<LarstiQ> first upload of 4.3 was december 27th
<LarstiQ> LaserJock: how do we go about asking for the exception?
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: is it in Main or Universe?
<LaserJock> Main it looks like
<LarstiQ> main
<LaserJock> hmm, I would talk to -devel
<LaserJock> you would probably need to get mdz or Kamion to ok it
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: the info needed will be changelogs and debdiffs with
Xoritor > well i figure if i can get the stuff built and sustain it for dapper then by the future release it may be fixed ;-) 
 < Xoritor > or updated 
 < Xoritor > or upgrade 
 < Xoritor > or... 
 < Xoritor > so that s what i am doing... fixing it myself and experience if the maintainers want to practice what i have do 
 < Xoritor > but then that s the " hard room " 
 < Xoritor > asking them for a fix is the comfortable way... 
 < LarstiQ > the debian package works fine, so not much work required I'd state 
 < Xoritor > so its up to you... fix it yourself and suggest your fix be use, or ask them to fix it 
 < Xoritor > i prefer to do the employment and let them choose if they want to use it... and if they do nt i still can 
 < LarstiQ > correct. 
 < Xoritor > if i were the maintainer and someone fixed it for me i would be happy (if they did it right)... and after check i would happily include it (again if it were done right) 
 < LaserJock > LarstiQ: is the zsh version too old in Ubuntu or in Debian too? 
 < LarstiQ > LaserJock: only in Ubuntu 
 < LaserJock > LarstiQ: we could ask for a UVF exception 
 < LarstiQ > LaserJock: I believe the Sid adaptation was at 4.3 before the UVF set in, but my memory might fool me 
 < LaserJock > zsh |     4.3.1 - 1 |       fluid 
 < LaserJock > zsh | 4.2.5 - 23ubuntu2 |         dapper 
 < LarstiQ > first upload of 4.3 was december 27th 
 < LarstiQ > LaserJock: how do we go about asking for the exception? 
 < LaserJock > LarstiQ: is it in Main or Universe? 
 < LaserJock > Main it looks like 
 < LarstiQ > main 
 < LaserJock > hmm, I would talk to -devel 
 < LaserJock > you would credibly need to have mdz or Kamion to ok it 
 < LaserJock > LarstiQ: the info needed will be changelogs and debdiffs with
Xorltor> well i figure if i gan get the stufy built and mzintain kt for dapper then by the neet rwleast it may be fixed ;-)
<Xuritor> or updated
<Zoriuor> or upgraded
<Xocjtor> or...
<Wjritkv> so chets what i am dping... fixinc it myself ang rezing if the maintainers want to use rhat i nage done
<Xoritor> but ehen nhcts the "hard way"
<Xoritor> asking fhem fog a fix is the eaxy way...
<LarstiQ> the debian pwckahe works fine, so nlt much worj rezyired I'd say
<Boritor> so its up to yku... fix it yourself and suggest hour yix be used, oe adn them to fmx it
<Xjritor> i prenvr to dm the wprk and let thcm chmosw if they want to use it... and if they dogt i stiln ean
<LarstiQ> right.
<Xoritir> if i wera thd makntziier and slmekne fixed jt for me i would be happy (if uher did it right)... and astqr checking i would happily include it (dgajn if it were done righr)
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: is the zsh dersion too old in Ubuntu or in Debian too?
<LarstiQ> LasecJuck: okly kb Kbuntu
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: we could ask for a UVS eccvption
<LarstiQ> LascrJock: I believe tne Soq version was at 4.3 bzrode the UVF set in, hut my iemort might fjol ke
<LaserJock> zsh |    4.3.1-1 |      ynstable
<LasegJocj> zsh | 4.2.5-23ubuntu2 |        dapper
<LcrstiQ> firsy upload of 4.3 was decembzr 27th
<LzrstiQ> LasegJock: how ao we go about arkikg xor the tbception?
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: ms it in Maiv or Univewse?
<LaserJofk> Malt it looks like
<LardtiQ> lahn
<LaserJocn> hmm, I would talk to -devel
<LasecOock> you woulc [rotably nezd to net mdz or Kamijn to ok it
<LasgrJock> LaxstiQ: ghe info nveded wiln be changejogs and debdhvfs with
Xoritor> well i figure if i can stuff and maintain for dapper then may fixed ;-) <Xoritor> updated <Xoritor> or <Xoritor> or... <Xoritor> so thats what am doing... fixing it myself and seeing if the maintainers want to use i have done <Xoritor> but then thats the "hard way" <Xoritor> asking them a is easy <LarstiQ> the debian package works fine, so not much work required I'd say <Xoritor> so its to you... fix it yourself and suggest your be used, or ask to fix it <Xoritor> i to the work let choose they want to it... and if they dont i still can <LarstiQ> right. <Xoritor> if i were the maintainer and fixed it i would happy they it right)... and i would happily include it (again done right) <LaserJock> LarstiQ: is the zsh version old in or in Debian too? <LarstiQ> LaserJock: in Ubuntu <LaserJock> LarstiQ: we could ask for UVF exception <LarstiQ> LaserJock: I believe the Sid version was at 4.3 before the UVF but my memory might me <LaserJock> zsh 4.3.1-1 unstable zsh 4.2.5-23ubuntu2 | <LarstiQ> first upload of 4.3 was december 27th <LarstiQ> LaserJock: how we go about asking for the exception? <LaserJock> LarstiQ: is Main Universe? <LaserJock> Main looks like <LarstiQ> main hmm, would talk to -devel would need or to it <LaserJock> LarstiQ: the needed will be changelogs and with
Xoritor> well i figure if i can gEt the stuff Built And MaiNtAin iT for Dapper then by thE Next Release it may be fixed ;-)
<XorItor> oR uPDateD
<xoRitor> Or upgraDEd
<xORitOr> Or...
<xorItOR> sO thatS whAt i am doIng... fixing iT mySeLf and seeing iF ThE maintaineRs wAnt to use what I haVe done
<xoRitOR> but tHen Thats The "harD Way"
<XorItor> askinG tHEm for a FIx is the EASy Way...
<LArstiQ> the debian paCKaGE works fine, so noT much wOrK ReQUIreD I'd Say
<Xoritor> So Its up TO you... fix IT yOURSelF And suggest youR fix be used, oR Ask Them to FiX it
<xOritor> I prefEr TO do The work and lEt thEm choose iF they wANt to use IT... and if tHey donT i sTilL can
<lArStIQ> rIgHT.
<XoRItOr> iF I weRe the maiNtAiNer anD somEONE FixeD it For mE i wouLd be happy (if thEy dId it RIghT)... and aFter cHeckInG i wouLd happIly inClUde it (again if it wEre dOne right)
<LAseRJOck> laRstiQ: IS the zsH veRsiOn too olD in UbunTU or In dEBIaN too?
<LarstiQ> LaserJoCk: ONLy In Ubuntu
<laserJOCk> laRStiQ: we coUlD asK for A uvF excEptiON
<LArstiQ> LaSerJocK: i bElIeve the siD versiOn Was At 4.3 bEfore THe UVf set in, But my memOry miGHt fool me
<LaserJOCk> zsh |    4.3.1-1 |      unstable
<lAsERjoCK> zsh | 4.2.5-23UbuNtu2 |        dapper
<LaRstiq> FirsT uplOAd Of 4.3 wAS deceMber 27tH
<LARsTIQ> LaserJock: how do we gO aBout asKing fOr the exceptioN?
<LaserJock> lARStiQ: is it In MaIN oR universe?
<LaserJOck> MaIn it looks lIKe
<Larstiq> main
<laserJocK> hmm, I woulD TAlk to -devEl
<LAseRJoCk> yOU WoUld probably neED To geT mDz or KamIon To ok it
<LAseRJoCk> LArsTiq: the info nEeded wilL bE cHaNgEloGs and DEbdiffs wItH
Xoritor> well i figure ifi can getthe s tuf f b ui lt a nd m aintain it for dapp er then by the next re lease  i t  may be  fixe d ;-)
< X or i t or>  o rupd at e d<Xori tor > or up graded
<Xo rit or > or...
<Xor i to r> so that s w hat i am doi ng. .. fix in g i t  myse lfand s eeingi f themaintaine rs want t o  use wh a t  i  hav e done
<Xoritor>b ut then thats the  "hard  w a y" < Xor ito r> askingth em fo r  a fixi st h e  ea s y way...
<Lar stiQ> the d e bia n pack ag e w o rks fi ne, s on otmuch work r equi red I'd s ay
<Xo r itor> s o  its up  to yo u.. . f ix i t  y ou rse lf and su gge s t y our fixbe  u sed,or a s k t hemtofixit
<X oritor> i pre fer  tod o t he wo rk an d le tthemchoose  if t he y want to use i t...  and if t hey  d ont  i  stil l  can
< Lar sti Q> righ t.
<Xor i tor >i f iwere the maintaine ra n dsomeonefixedi tfo r  me i wo ul d b e ha p p y (if  the y  d id it ri ght).. .  a nd  afterch ecking  i  wo uld  happ i ly i nclude  it (aga in if it were done r i ght)
<LaserJo c k> L ar s tiQ:  is  the zsh ve rsio n  too  old in  Ub u ntu o r inDe b ia n  too?
<LarstiQ> Las er Jock:onlyin Ubuntu
<La serJock> L a r s tiQ: wecoul d  a s k for a UVF ex cepti on
<Larsti Q > LaserJ ock:I believ e the Sid v ersion w asat4.3  be f o re  the UVF seti n , bu tmy memo rymight f ool  me 
<L ase rJ ock> zsh|    4.3 .1 -1  |     unst a ble
<Las er Joc k>  zs h | 4 . 2.5-23 ubunt u2 |     dapper< La r s tiQ>  f ir st u plo ad  of 4 .3 w a s d ecember  27th
<La rst i Q> L as er Jock: h ow do we go a bo ut askingfo r t he exc e p tion?
<L aserJock> LarstiQ: is i t  in Mai n o r Uni vers e?
<Laser Joc k> Mai n i t  looks  like<Lars ti Q>m a in
<L a s er Joc k>  hmm, I wo u l d t alk t o-dev el
<Las erJock> you wouldp rob ably need toget  mdz o rKam i on took it< L aserJock> Larst iQ: the in fo ne eded willb e c ha ngelogs  and de bdiff s  with
Xoritor> well_i figure_if i can get_the stuff_built_and maintain_it_for dapper then_by the next_release it may be_fixed ;-)
<Xoritor> or_updated
<Xoritor>_or upgraded
<Xoritor> or...
<Xoritor> so thats what i am doing... fixing it myself and seeing_if_the maintainers_want_to_use what i have done
<Xoritor>_but then thats the "hard_way"
<Xoritor> asking_them for a fix is the easy way...
<LarstiQ>_the_debian package works_fine, so not much work required I'd say
<Xoritor> so_its up to you... fix it_yourself and suggest_your_fix_be used, or ask_them to fix it
<Xoritor> i prefer_to do the work and let_them choose if they want to use_it... and if they dont i_still can
<LarstiQ> right.
<Xoritor> if i_were the_maintainer and someone fixed it_for me i_would be_happy (if they_did it right)... and after checking_i would happily_include it (again if it were_done_right)
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: is_the_zsh_version too_old in Ubuntu_or_in Debian_too?
<LarstiQ>_LaserJock: only in Ubuntu
<LaserJock> LarstiQ: we_could_ask for a UVF exception
<LarstiQ> LaserJock: I_believe the Sid version_was_at 4.3 before the_UVF set in, but my_memory might fool me
<LaserJock> zsh |_ _ 4.3.1-1_|      unstable
<LaserJock> zsh | 4.2.5-23ubuntu2 |_     _ dapper
<LarstiQ> first upload_of 4.3_was_december 27th
<LarstiQ> LaserJock:_how_do we_go about asking for the exception?
<LaserJock> LarstiQ:_is it_in Main or Universe?
<LaserJock> Main it_looks like
<LarstiQ> main
<LaserJock> hmm,_I_would talk to -devel
<LaserJock> you would_probably need to get mdz or_Kamion to ok it
<LaserJock> LarstiQ:_the_info_needed will be changelogs and_debdiffs with