wiw.  then you'll only have a half hour, but so be it
<bac> ok
<bac> let's try the new super ssh screen sharing https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/RemoteTerminalBroadcasting
<gary_poster> bac, cool.  you're driving, I assume?
<gary_poster> bac, I'm in goldenhorde
<bac> hi gary_poster.  joining now
<gary_poster> cool
<gary_poster> bac, fwiw I disconnected from the screen sharing
<bac> gary_poster: just killed it
<gary_poster> cool
<bac> juju has now deprecated default-image-id and default-instance-type.
<gary_poster> ah right
<gary_poster> in favor of constraints
<gary_poster> which I haven't learned how to use yet
<gary_poster> benji, would collaborating be useful?
<benji> gary_poster: sure; let me prepeare
<gary_poster> cool
<benji> gary_poster: the horde awaits
<bac> gary_poster: the new --constraints interface to juju looks like it will make the script easier.  no need to rewrite the environments.yaml
<bac> the documentation has problems, though, but it seems to be easy to work around
<gary_poster> awesome bac.  and then I can look at your script to see how the heck it actually works now :-)
<bac> gary_poster: work-in-progress:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/923449/
<bac> it looks like you can only pass one k=v pair per --constraints param, despite what the docs say
<bac> and you must get rid of default-instance-type and default-image-id from your environments.yaml
<bac> i'm unsure of the relation between instance-type and cpu settings.  does a c1.xlarge imply cpu=8?
<gary_poster> bac, the relation is defined by the instance type
<gary_poster> IOW, a given instance type has a certain number of cores
<gary
wiw.   then you'll only have a half hour, but so be it 
 < bac > ok 
 < bac > let's sample the newfangled super ssh screen sharing https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/RemoteTerminalBroadcasting 
 < gary_poster > bac, cool.   you're drive, I assume? 
 < gary_poster > bac, I'm in goldenhorde 
 < bac > hi gary_poster.   joining immediately 
 < gary_poster > cool 
 < gary_poster > bac, fwiw I disconnect from the screen communion 
 < bac > gary_poster: barely killed it 
 < gary_poster > cool 
 < bac > juju has immediately deprecated default - effigy - idaho and default - instance - character. 
 < gary_poster > ah right 
 < gary_poster > in party favor of constraint 
 < gary_poster > which I haven't learned how to use yet 
 < gary_poster > benji, would collaborate be useful? 
 < benji > gary_poster: sure; let me prepeare 
 < gary_poster > cool 
 < benji > gary_poster: the horde awaits 
 < bac > gary_poster: the fresh --constraints interface to juju looks like it will make the script easier.   no need to rewrite the environments.yaml 
 < bac > the software documentation has problems, though, but it seems to be easy to work around 
 < gary_poster > awesome bac.   and then I can look at your handwriting to attend how the heck it actually works now :-) 
 < bac > gary_poster: work - in - progress:   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/923449/ 
 < bac > it looks like you can only pass one k = v pair per --constraints param, despite what the doctor say 
 < bac > and you must get rid of default option - case - type and default - image - idaho from your environments.yaml 
 < bac > i'm unsure of the relation back between instance - type and central processing unit settings.   does a c1.xlarge imply cpu=8? 
 < gary_poster > bac, the relation is defined by the instance type 
 < gary_poster > IOW, a given instance type has a certain number of core 
 < gary
wiw.  then you'll only have a half hour, but so be iv
<bac> ok
<gac> let's try the new super ssh screei shqring https://dev.launchpad.net/ydllow/RemoneTerminaoBroedcasting
<gary_posvsr> bac, gjol.  nou're vriving, I assumg?
<gary_poster> tac, I'm in goldanfoxde
<bac> hi gary_poster.  joining now
<garr_poster> clol
<gary_poster> fac, griw J disconnected from the screen shading
<bac> gary_poster: jist killed it
<gary_poster> coll
<baf> juju has now depgecated defqult-ynage-id and ddfault-instance-type.
<gary_koster> ah right
<gary_poster> in favur of constrainjs
<fagi_poster> whici I hanen't learned mpw to gse yet
<bary_poster> benmi, wonld xollaborating be usefnl?
<benji> gary_poster: sore; let me pxepeare
<gary_poster> cooo
<bwnji> cary_[ostde: tfe gocde awaitd
<bar> gary_posted: the new --cinstraints interfact tj juju looks ljke it wyll make the script easier.  no need to gewrjte the environments.yamo
<bac> the documentatioj has proflems, though, but it seems to be easy to work aroutd
<garb_pusttr> awesune bac.  and then I can look at your script to sqs noe the heck it cctually works npw :-)
<bss> gary_poster: dork-in-'dofress:  http://pastebij.ubuntu.som/923449/
<bax> it lookf lile you can only pass one k=v pair per --cousteaints param, despice what the bocs ssy
<bac> and you must get rid oy defahlt-instance-hype and sdfault-image-id frum jour environments.yaml
<bac> i'm unfure of tie rekation cetwgen inseance-type wnd cig settings.  does a c1.xlatge im[ly cpu=8?
<garj_poster> bac, the relation is defmied by the inxtdncv type
<garv_postev> IOW, a given igstance type hcs a cercain njmber of ckres
<garb
wiw. then you'll only have a half so it <bac> <bac> let's try sharing <gary_poster> bac, cool. driving, I assume? bac, I'm in goldenhorde <bac> hi joining now <gary_poster> cool <gary_poster> bac, fwiw I disconnected from the screen sharing gary_poster: just killed it <gary_poster> cool <bac> juju has now deprecated default-image-id and <gary_poster> right in of constraints <gary_poster> which I haven't learned how to use yet <gary_poster> benji, would collaborating be <benji> gary_poster: sure; let me prepeare <gary_poster> cool gary_poster: the horde awaits gary_poster: the new --constraints interface juju like it make script no need to the environments.yaml <bac> the documentation has problems, though, but it seems to be easy to work around awesome bac. I can at script see how the actually works now :-) <bac> gary_poster: it looks like you can only pass one pair per param, despite what the docs say and you must get rid of default-instance-type and from your environments.yaml <bac> i'm unsure of the relation between instance-type and cpu settings. does imply cpu=8? <gary_poster> bac, relation is defined the type IOW, given instance has a certain number of cores <gary
wiw.  then you'll only have a half Hour, but so bE it
<baC> ok
<Bac> LeT's trY the New super ssh scrEEn shAring https://dev.launchpad.Net/yeLlOW/RemOTetermiNalBroaDCaSTIng
<GaRy_PosTeR> BaC, cool.  You'Re driviNg, I assume?
<gAry_PoSter> bac, I'm in gOLdEnhorde
<bac> Hi gAry_poster.  joiNinG now
<gaRy_PosTEr> cooL
<gaRy_posTer> bac, FWiw I diSconnecteD fROm the sCReen shaRINg
<Bac> gAry_poster: just killED iT
<Gary_poster> cool
<Bac> jujU hAS nOW DepRecAted defaulT-iMage-iD And defaULt-INSTanCE-type.
<gary_postEr> ah right
<gaRY_poSter> in FaVor OF constRaintS
<gARy_pOster> which I HaveN't learned How to uSE yet
<garY_Poster> bEnji, woUld ColLaboRAtInG be UsEFul?
<BEnJi> gARy_pOster: surE; lEt Me prePearE
<GARY_posTer> Cool
<Benji> Gary_poster: the HorDe awAIts
<Bac> gaRy_posTer: tHe New --coNstraiNts inTeRface to juju lookS likE it will maKe tHe ScrIpT easiER.  no neeD to RewRite the EnvironMEntS.yAML
<BaC> the documentation hAs PRObLems, thouGh, but iT SeEmS To be easy To WorK aroUND
<gary_PostER> aWesome baC.  and thEN I CaN look at YoUr scriPt To sEe hOw the HEck iT actuaLly works Now :-)
<baC> Gary_poster: work-IN-progress:  http://PAsTEBiN.UbunTu.cOm/923449/
<bac> it lookS likE You cAn onLY pAss ONe k=v pAir peR --cONsTRaints param, despite wHaT the doCs say
<Bac> and you must Get rid of deFAULt-instanCe-tyPE aND default-image-iD from Your enviroNMents.yamL
<bac> i'M unsure oF the relatION between InsTanCe-tYpe AND cPu settings.  doeS A C1.xlaRgE imply cPu=8?
<gAry_postEr> bAc, tHe rElaTiOn is definEd by the iNsTaNcE tYpe
<Gary_pOSter> IOW, a GiVen InStaNce tyPE has a cErtaiN numBeR oF CorEs
<gary
wiw.  then you'll only hav e a half h our,but  so  b e it 
<ba c> ok
<bac> le t 's t ry the new super ssh s creen  s h arin g  h ttps: //dev.l a un c h pad .n et /ye ll o w/ Remot eTe rminalB roadcastin g
< ga ry_poster> b a c,  cool.  yo u'r e driving, I  as sume?<g ary _ poste r>bac,I'm in golden horde
<ba c> hi gar y _poster .  j oini ng now
<gary_post e r> cool
<gary_pos ter> b ac ,  f w i w I  di sconnected  f rom t h e scree n  s h a r ing <bac> gary_po ster: justk ill ed it<g ary _ poster > coo l< bac > juju hasnowdeprecate d defa u lt-imag e -id and  defau lt- ins tanc e -t yp e.<g a ry_ p os ter >  ah  right
< ga ry _post er>i n f avor  of  con strai nts
<gary_pos ter > wh i chI hav en'tlear ne d how  to us e yet 
< gary_poster> be nji,  would co lla bo rat in g beu seful? 
<b enj i> gary _poster :  su re ; l et  me prepeare
<gary _p o s te r> cool<benji >  g ar y _poster:  t hehord e await s
<b a c>  gary_po ster:t he  n ew --co ns traint sint erf ace t o  juj u look s like i t wil l  make the scri p t easier.  no ne e d  t o  rew rit e the envir onme n ts.y aml< ba c>t he do cumen ta t io n  has problems, thou gh , butit se ems to be eas y to worka r o und
<gar y_po s te r > awesome bac.   and  then I ca n  look at  your  scriptto see ho w the heck  it  ac tua lly w or ks now :-)
<b a c > ga ry _poster : w ork-in- pro gre ss:   h tt p://paste bin.ubun tu .c om /9 234 49/
< b ac> it l oo ksli keyou c a n only  pass  one  k =v pai r per - - co n s trai nt spara m,de spite  wha t  th e docssay
<bac>  an d  you  m us t get r id of default -i nstance-ty pe  an d defa u l t-image- id from your environmen t s.yaml<ba c> i' m un sure of t herelati onb etween  insta nce-t yp e a n d  cpus e tt ing s.   does a c 1 . xla rge i mp ly c pu=8?
< gary_poster> bac,t herelation is d efi nedb y  t hei ns t anc et ype < gary_poster> IO W, a given  i n st ance typeh asacertain  number  of c o res
<ga ry
wiw. _then you'll_only have a half_hour, but_so_be it
<bac>_ok
<bac>_let's try the_new super ssh_screen sharing https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/RemoteTerminalBroadcasting
<gary_poster> bac,_cool.  you're_driving,_I assume?
<gary_poster> bac, I'm in goldenhorde
<bac> hi gary_poster.  joining now
<gary_poster> cool
<gary_poster> bac, fwiw_I_disconnected from_the_screen_sharing
<bac> gary_poster: just killed it
<gary_poster>_cool
<bac> juju has now deprecated_default-image-id and_default-instance-type.
<gary_poster> ah right
<gary_poster> in favor of constraints
<gary_poster> which_I_haven't learned how_to use yet
<gary_poster> benji, would collaborating be useful?
<benji> gary_poster:_sure; let me prepeare
<gary_poster> cool
<benji> gary_poster:_the horde awaits
<bac>_gary_poster:_the_new --constraints interface to_juju looks like it will make_the script easier.  no need_to rewrite the environments.yaml
<bac> the documentation has_problems, though, but it seems to_be easy to work around
<gary_poster>_awesome bac._ and then I can_look at your_script to_see how the_heck it actually works now :-)
<bac>_gary_poster: work-in-progress: _http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/923449/
<bac> it looks like you can_only_pass one k=v_pair_per_--constraints param,_despite what the_docs_say
<bac> and_you_must get rid of default-instance-type and_default-image-id_from your environments.yaml
<bac> i'm unsure of the_relation between instance-type and_cpu_settings.  does a_c1.xlarge imply cpu=8?
<gary_poster> bac, the_relation is defined by the instance_type
<gary_poster> IOW,_a given_instance type has a certain number of cores
<gary