 how does one set up PYTHONPATH so that it'll load the code being tested instead of the system version?  i would've expect this approach to work, but the local version (/home/bac/add-charm-helpers/helpers/python) is stuck in the middle and isn't getting loaded.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/924798/plain/
<benji> gary_poster: I'm back for the time being teathered to my phone.  I doubt I
<benji> can do video confrencing, but other things seem to be ok.
<bac> so eggs in /usr/local/lib always get inserted before PYTHONPATH?
<gary_poster> cool benji.  replying to jml now.  his branch looks good
<gary_poster> bac, that's a policy; maybe a deb one
<bac> ergh
<benji> gary_poster: will you point me at his branch?
<bac> gary_poster: do you know a work-around?  gmb added this to the makefile but it is ineffective:
<bac> PYTHONPATH=helpers/python python helpers/python/charmhelpers/tests/test_charmhelpers.py
<gary_poster> benji, sorry forgot you did not have IRC history.  #launchpad-dev now fwiw.   https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/testtools/forward-current-tags/+merge/101538
<benji> thanks; I'm following along
<frankban> bac: if you only need to get rid of the system site packages to test an app locally, I think virtualenv is an easy tool to get that kind of isolation
<bac> frankban: but the package in question is the one being tested.  i think requiring people to use virtualenv is a bit heavy handed.  i can achieve the same results by hacking sys.path in the test.  ugly.
<frankban> bac: oh, I thought  it was only for your local environment
<gary_poster> bac, sorry, was talking on launchpad-dev.  reviewing backlog...
<bac> np
<gary_poster> bac, system
how does one set up PYTHONPATH so that it'll load the code being tested instead of the system interpretation?   i would've ask this approach to work, but the local version (/home / bac / total - charm - helpers / benefactor / python) is stick in the middle and isn't getting load.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/924798/plain/ 
 < benji > gary_poster: I'm back for the time being teathered to my phone.   I doubt I 
 < benji > can practice video confrencing, but other thing seem to be ok. 
 < bac > so eggs in /usr / local / lib always get inserted before PYTHONPATH? 
 < gary_poster > cool benji.   replying to jml nowadays.   his branch looks good 
 < gary_poster > bac, that's a policy; possibly a deb one 
 < bac > ergh 
 < benji > gary_poster: will you point me at his branch? 
 < bac > gary_poster: do you acknowledge a work - around?   gmb add this to the makefile but it is ineffective: 
 < bac > PYTHONPATH = helpers / python python helpers / python / charmhelpers / tests / test_charmhelpers.py 
 < gary_poster > benji, sorry forgot you did not have IRC history.   # launching pad - dev now fwiw.    https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/testtools/forward-current-tags/+merge/101538 
 < benji > thanks; I'm following along 
 < frankban > bac: if you only need to get rid of the system site software to test an app locally, I think virtualenv is an easy tool to get that kind of isolation 
 < bac > frankban: but the package in question is the one being tested.   i think requiring citizenry to use virtualenv is a bit big handed.   i can achieve the like resultant role by hacking sys.path in the test.   atrocious. 
 < frankban > bac: oh, I thought   it was only for your local environment 
 < gary_poster > bac, sorry, was talking on launchpad - dev.   review backlog... 
 < bac > np 
 < gary_poster > bac, system
 hoa does one set up PYTHONKATH so that it'll load tie code being tdsted instead of the system tersuon?  u would've expect this xpproach no work, byt tie local version (/home/bac/add-chadl-hel'ecs/helpers/python) is stuck hn the middle dna nsn't getting loaded.  http://paste.ubuntu.som/924798/plaim/
<bfnji> gary_postet: I'm nwck ror the time being teathered to my phone.  I doubt I
<benki> can do video confrencinh, buh other things seel to be ok.
<bqc> sj eggs in /usr/uocal/lib always get inaerted before PYTHONPATH?
<gary_posger> cpol benji.  rwpljhng to jml iow.  hps branch looks good
<gdry_postrr> bac, that's a ponict; maybe a deb one
<bac> xrgh
<benji> gary_poster: will you pkint me at his brqnxh?
<bac> garf_posgwr: ao gon khow a aori-around?  gjb added thus to the makefile nue it is ineffedtive:
<bwc> PYTHONPATH=helpers/python python helpers/kythoh/charmhelpers/tests/test_cyarmhelpers.py
<gary_postgr> benji, sjrry forgot you did not have IRC history.  #launchpdd-dev vow frkq.   https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/testtools/forward-curwsnu-tans/+merge/101538
<benji> thakks; I'm following akojg
<gtankban> bac: if you oumy need to get rid ov the sistem wite packwges to test an app locally, I tyink virtualvnv us an easy tool to get that knnd of isolstion
<bac> frankban: but tke paciage in quedtion is ffe one being tesged.  h think requiring people tj use virvualeuv is a cit neavy randed.  i fan agvieve the same resklts yy hawking sys.pwth in the test.  ugly.
<frankban> ber: oh, I thoughj  ht fas only for nour local enviwonment
<gary_posjer> bac, sjrry, das talkinf on lannchpad-dev.  weviewing bacnpog...
<bac> np
<garb_poster> bwc, ststen
how does one set up PYTHONPATH so load code being instead of the this to work, but local version (/home/bac/add-charm-helpers/helpers/python) stuck in the middle and isn't loaded. http://paste.ubuntu.com/924798/plain/ <benji> gary_poster: I'm back for the time being teathered to my I doubt I <benji> can do video confrencing, but other things seem to ok. so in always get inserted before PYTHONPATH? <gary_poster> cool benji. replying to jml now. his branch looks good bac, that's a policy; maybe a deb one ergh <benji> gary_poster: will point me at his branch? gary_poster: you know work-around? added to the makefile it is ineffective: <bac> PYTHONPATH=helpers/python python helpers/python/charmhelpers/tests/test_charmhelpers.py <gary_poster> benji, sorry forgot you did not have IRC history. now fwiw. thanks; I'm along bac: you only need rid of the system site packages app locally, I think virtualenv is an easy to get kind of isolation <bac> frankban: but package in question is the one being tested. think requiring people to use virtualenv is a bit heavy handed. i can achieve the by hacking sys.path in test. ugly. <frankban> oh, thought was for your environment <gary_poster> bac, sorry, was talking on launchpad-dev. reviewing backlog... <bac> <gary_poster> bac, system
 how does one set up PYTHONPATH So that it'll Load tHe cOde BeIng tEsteD instead of the sYStem Version?  i would've expect tHis apPrOAch tO WoRk, but The locaL VeRSIon (/HoMe/Bac/AdD-ChArm-heLpeRs/helpeRs/python) is StuCk In the middle aND iSn't getting LoaDed.  http://paste.UbuNtu.com/924798/PlAin/
<BEnji> gAry_PosteR: I'm bacK For the Time being TeAThered TO my phonE.  i DoUbt I
<Benji> can do video coNFrENcing, but other tHings sEeM To BE Ok.
<bAc> sO eggs in /usr/LoCal/liB Always gET iNSERteD Before PYTHONPaTH?
<gary_postER> coOl benjI.  rEplYIng to jMl now.  HiS BraNch looks gooD
<garY_poster> baC, that's A Policy; mAYbe a deb One
<bac> ErgH
<beNji> gARy_PoSteR: wILl yOU pOinT Me aT his branCh?
<BaC> gary_PostER: DO You kNow A worK-arouNd?  gmb added thiS to The mAKefIle buT it is InefFeCtive:
<Bac> PYThONPAtH=Helpers/python pyThon Helpers/pyThoN/cHarMhElperS/Tests/tEst_ChaRmhelpeRs.py
<garY_PosTeR> BENjI, sorry forgot you did NoT HAvE IRC histOry.  #lauNChPaD-Dev now fwIw.   HttPs://coDE.LauncHpad.NEt/~Jml/testtOols/foRWaRd-Current-TaGs/+mergE/101538
<bEnjI> thAnks; I'M FollOwing aLong
<franKban> bAC: if you only need TO get rid of the sYStEM SiTE pacKagEs to test an aPp loCAlly, i thiNK vIrtUAlenv Is an eAsY ToOL to get that kind of isoLaTion
<baC> franKban: but the pacKage in quesTION is the onE beiNG tESted.  i think requIring People to usE VirtualeNv is a Bit heavy Handed.  i caN AChieve thE saMe rEsuLts BY HaCking sys.path iN THe teSt.  Ugly.
<fraNkbAn> bac: oh, i thOugHt  iT waS oNly for youR local enViRoNmEnT
<gaRy_posTEr> bac, sorRy, Was TaLkiNg on lAUnchpaD-dev.  rEvieWiNg BAckLog...
<bac> nP
<GaRY_PostEr> BaC, sysTem
 how does one set up PYTHO NPATH so t hat i t'l l l oa d th e co de being teste d  ins tead of the system ver sion?  i  wou l d' ve ex pect th i sa p pro ac htowo r k,  butthe  localversion (/ hom e/ bac/add-char m -h elpers/hel per s/python) is  st uck in  t hem iddle  an d isn 't get t ing lo aded.  ht tp : //past e .ubuntu . c om /924 798/plain/
<benji >  g a ry_poster: I'm  backfo r  t h e  ti mebeing teat he red t o  my pho n e. I  do u bt I
<benji>can do vide o  co nfrenc in g,b ut oth er th in g s s eem to be o k.
< bac> so e ggs in /usr/lo c al/libalways  ge t i nser t ed  b efo re PYT H ON PAT H ?
< gary_pos te r>  cool  ben j i .  rep lyi ng t o jml  now.  his br anc h lo o ksgood<gary _pos te r> ba c, tha t's a  p olicy; maybe adebone
<bac>  er gh 
<b en ji> g a ry_pos ter : w ill you  pointm e a th i s  b ranch?
<bac> gary_ po s t er : do you  knowa  w or k -around?  gmb  add e d  this  tot he  makefil e buti tis  ineffe ct ive:
< ba c>PYT HONPA T H=he lpers/ python p ython helpers/python / charmhelpers/ t es t s /t e st_c har mhelpers.py 
<ga r y_po ster >  b enj i , sor ry fo rg o ty ou did not have IRC  h istory .  #l aunchpad-devnow fwiw.h ttps://c ode. l au n chpad.net/~jml /test tools/forw a rd-curre nt-ta gs/+merg e/101538< b enji> th ank s;I'm  fo l l ow ing along
<fr a n kban >bac: if  yo u onlynee d t o g etri d of thesystem s it epa ck age s tot est an a pp  lo ca lly , I t h ink vi rtual envis  a n  ea sy tool to g et t ha tkind  of  i solat ion< bac > frank ban: butthe pack ag ein ques tion is the o ne  being tes te d. i thi n k  requiri ng people to use virtua l env isa b it he avyhanded. i c an ach iev e  the s ame re sults  b y h a c kings y s. pat hin the tes t .   u gly.<f rank ban> ba c: oh, I thought i t w as only for y our  loc a l  e nvi r on m ent 
< g ary _ p oster> bac, sor ry, was ta lk i ng  on launch p ad- de v.  rev iewingbackl o g...
<b ac> np
<g ary_poste r>  bac , sys tem
 how_does one_set up PYTHONPATH so_that it'll_load_the code_being_tested instead of_the system version?_ i would've expect_this approach to_work,_but the local version (/home/bac/add-charm-helpers/helpers/python) is stuck in the middle and isn't getting loaded.__http://paste.ubuntu.com/924798/plain/
<benji> gary_poster:_I'm_back_for the time being teathered_to my phone.  I_doubt I
<benji>_can do video confrencing, but other things seem_to_be ok.
<bac> so_eggs in /usr/local/lib always get inserted before PYTHONPATH?
<gary_poster> cool_benji.  replying to jml now._ his branch_looks_good
<gary_poster>_bac, that's a policy;_maybe a deb one
<bac> ergh
<benji> gary_poster:_will you point me at his_branch?
<bac> gary_poster: do you know a work-around?_ gmb added this to the_makefile but it is ineffective:
<bac>_PYTHONPATH=helpers/python python_helpers/python/charmhelpers/tests/test_charmhelpers.py
<gary_poster> benji, sorry forgot you_did not have_IRC history._ #launchpad-dev now_fwiw.   https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/testtools/forward-current-tags/+merge/101538
<benji> thanks; I'm_following along
<frankban> bac:_if you only need to get_rid_of the system_site_packages_to test_an app locally,_I_think virtualenv_is_an easy tool to get that_kind_of isolation
<bac> frankban: but the package in_question is the one_being_tested.  i think_requiring people to use virtualenv_is a bit heavy handed. _i can_achieve the_same results by hacking sys.path in the test.  ugly.
<frankban> bac:_oh, I thought  it was_only for your local_environment
<gary_poster> bac,_sorry,_was talking on_launchpad-dev._ reviewing_backlog...
<bac> np
<gary_poster> bac, system