dong on the forums to see if my guys (from ubuntustudio) can cooperate with him to get updated audio apps... it's a big complaint I hear almost daily from people on IRC, MSN, AIM, etc
<siretart> dolson: well, if the problem was that the applications would be always outdated, then some add-on repository could help, but..
<dolson> I don't agree with a 3rd party repo. that's why I'm here
<siretart> dolson: my impression is that many audio application are simply not mature enough. so whats actually needed is more upstream work (upstreams are usually happy for any help they are offered)
<dolson> there's a difference between bleeding edge and "released almost a year ago"
<siretart> I agree that there is no need for another 3rd party repo
<siretart> so whats the point?
<dolson> what's the point of what?
<siretart> never mind
<dolson> Linux audio apps have come a long way... they're improving all the time. I'm not a programmer, or I would help out upstream. Just because they aren't at the exact same level as commercial apps for other OSes doesn't mean that we should simply ignore them
<siretart> the same applies not only to audio related applications but to every free software
<dolson> I agree. and other people are concerned with other software, and not audio. I am concerned with audio, and not others
#ubuntu-motu 2006-03-16
<mkrufky> LaserJock_away: i know you're not around -- my time was scarce today... Hopefully I'll have time early next week, and I'll read the motu wiki etc.... so i can upload that php5-mssql package
<mkrufky> LaserJock_away: thanks for the tip
<mkrufky> bye all
<tseng> nice, delay hits osnews
<tseng> in true form
<LaserJock> netzmeister: nabend!
<sistpoty> siretart | slomo | dholbach: please check #4749
<slomo> sistpoty: XOR or OR? ;)
<sistpoty> slomo: OR ;)
<slomo>
dong on the forums to see if my guys (from ubuntustudio) can cooperate with him to draw update audio apps... it's a big complaint I hear about daily from people on IRC, MSN, AIM, etc 
 < siretart > dolson: well, if the problem was that the lotion would be always outdated, then some add - on depository could avail, but.. 
 < dolson > I don't agree with a third party repo. that's why I'm here 
 < siretart > dolson: my impression is that many audio application are simply not mature enough. therefore what s actually needed is more upstream work (upstreams are usually happy for any help they are offer) 
 < dolson > there's a difference between bleeding edge and " publish almost a year ago " 
 < siretart > I agree that there is no motivation for another 3rd party repo 
 < siretart > so what s the point? 
 < dolson > what's the point of what? 
 < siretart > never mind 
 < dolson > Linux sound recording apps have come a long way... they're improving all the time. I'm not a programmer, or I would help out upstream. barely because they aren't at the exact same level as commercial apps for other OSes doesn't mean that we should simply ignore them 
 < siretart > the same applies not merely to audio related applications but to every barren software 
 < dolson > I match. and other people are concerned with early software, and not audio. I am concerned with sound recording, and not others 
 # ubuntu - motu 2006 - 03 - 16 
 < mkrufky > LaserJock_away: i know you're not around -- my time was scarce today... Hopefully I'll accept time early next week, and I'll read the motu wiki etc.... so i can upload that php5 - mssql package 
 < mkrufky > LaserJock_away: thanks for the tip 
 < mkrufky > bye all 
 < tseng > nice, delay hits osnews 
 < tseng > in true form 
 < LaserJock > netzmeister: nabend! 
 < sistpoty > siretart | slomo | dholbach: please check # 4749 
 < slomo > sistpoty: XOR or oregon? ;) 
 < sistpoty > slomo: OR ;) 
 < slomo >
donh on the forums to see in my guys (from uyyntustndio) cah cooperxte with him to get updated eudii appw... it's a big complaint K hear allost daioy fcom people on IRR, MSN, AIM, etc
<sjvetarc> volson: well, if jhe problem fas that the a[puieations would be always outdated, theg some sdf-on repository coukq hemi, nut..
<dolson> I don't agree with a 3rd party gepo. that's why I'm here
<siretart> dolson: my imoresdion is that many wudio applixatijb are simply not maturt znough. so wgats actually needed is more uprtreak work (upsjxwamd are usuallb happj for any heli they dre offrred)
<dolson> theve's a didference between bleeving edge and "releasgd almost d vear ago"
<siretart> I ageew thaj these ir no netd hor anothfr 3cd party relo
<siretart> wo whats the point?
<dplfin> what's the loint jf what?
<siretart> never mind
<dolson> Linux augio apps have come a long qay... they're improving wll the tyme. I'm not a programmer, or I would help out upstraam. Jnsg btcquse gyej aren't at the exact same level as commercial zpks nor other OSes djesn't mean yhwt re should simkly ignore them
<siretart> the dame apklies bot only uo aucio related applications bur to every fgee woftware
<dolson> I ayree. and othzr peokle arr concerned with other roftsare, and noh audio. I xm concerned witf aldio, and not others
#ubuntu-motu 2006-03-16
<ikrufky> LeserJpck_away: i kmow yot're not arlund -- my time was scarce todai... Hopexully I'll jave time early next week, and I'll read the moju fikp etc.... so n can mpload that php5-issql package
<mlrufky> JaserGock_away: tganks fmr the tip
<mhrufky> bye aln
<jseng> nice, denay hits osnwws
<tweng> in grue form
<LaserKock> netzmeister: navend!
<sistpoty> siretert | alomo | dholbach: pltawe check #4749
<slomo> sirtpjtj: XPR mr OR? ;)
<sistpody> suomu: OR ;)
<suomo>
dong on the forums to see if (from can cooperate him to get big I hear almost from people on MSN, AIM, etc <siretart> dolson: well, the problem was that the applications would be always outdated, then some add-on could help, but.. <dolson> I don't agree with a 3rd party repo. that's I'm <siretart> my is that many audio application are simply not mature enough. so whats actually needed is more work (upstreams are usually happy for any help are offered) <dolson> there's difference between bleeding edge and almost year ago" I that is no need another 3rd party repo <siretart> so whats the point? <dolson> what's the point of what? <siretart> never <dolson> Linux have come long they're all the time. a programmer, or I would help because they aren't at the exact same level commercial apps other OSes doesn't mean that we simply ignore them <siretart> the same applies not to audio related applications but to every free software <dolson> I agree. and other people with other software, and audio. I am with and others 2006-03-16 <mkrufky> i know you're not around -- my time was scarce today... I'll have time early next week, and I'll read the etc.... i can upload php5-mssql package <mkrufky> LaserJock_away: for tip <mkrufky> bye all delay osnews form netzmeister: <sistpoty> siretart | slomo dholbach: please check #4749 <slomo> XOR or OR? ;)
dong on the forums to see if my gUys (from ubuNtustUdiO) caN cOopeRate With him to get upDAted Audio apps... it's a big complaInt I hEaR AlmoST dAily fRom peopLE oN irC, MsN, aIm, etC
<sIReTart> dOlsOn: well, iF the probleM waS tHat the applicATiOns would be AlwAys outdated, tHen Some adD-oN rePOsitoRy cOuld hElp, but..
<DOlson> I Don't agree WiTH a 3rd paRTy repo. tHAT's Why I'M here
<siretart> dolsON: mY Impression is thAt many AuDIo APPliCatIon are simpLy Not maTUre enouGH. sO WHAts ACtually needed Is more upstrEAm wOrk (upsTrEamS Are usuAlly hApPY foR any help theY are Offered)
<doLson> thERe's a difFErence bEtween BleEdiNg edGE aNd "RelEaSEd aLMoSt a YEar Ago"
<siretArT> I Agree That THERE is nO neEd foR anotHer 3rd party repO
<siRetaRT> so Whats The poInt?
<dOlSon> whAt's the Point Of What?
<siretart> nevEr miNd
<dolson> LInuX aUdiO aPps haVE come a LonG waY... they're ImproviNG alL tHE TImE. I'm not a programmer, oR I WOUlD help out UpstreAM. JUsT Because tHeY arEn't aT THe exaCt saME lEvel as coMmerciAL aPpS for othEr oSes doEsN't mEan That wE ShouLd simpLy ignore Them
<sIRetart> the same aPPlies not only tO AuDIO rELateD apPlications bUt to EVery Free SOfTwaRE
<dolsOn> I agReE. AnD Other people are conceRnEd with Other Software, and noT audio. I am cONCErned witH audIO, aND not others
#ubunTu-motU 2006-03-16
<mkrufky> LaSErJock_awAy: i knOw you're nOt around -- mY TIme was scArcE toDay... hopEFUlLy I'll have time EARly nExT week, anD I'lL read thE moTu wIki Etc.... So I can uploaD that php5-MsSqL pAcKagE
<mkruFKy> LaserJOcK_awAy: ThaNks foR The tip
<MkrufKy> byE aLl
<TSenG> nice, deLAy HITs osNeWs
<TsenG> in TrUe forM
<LasERJoCk> netzmEister: nabEnd!
<SIstpOtY> sIretart | Slomo | dholbach: PlEase check #4749
<sLoMo> sIstpotY: xoR or OR? ;)
<siStpoty> slomo: OR ;)
<slomo>
dong on the forums to seeif my guys  (fro m u bun tu stud io)can cooperatew ithhim to get updated aud io ap ps . .. i t 's  a bi g compl a in t I h ea ralm os t  d ailyfro m peopl e on IRC,MSN ,AIM, etc
<si r et art> dolso n:well, if the  pr oblemwa s t h at th e a pplic ations wouldbe always  o u tdated ,  then s o m eadd- on repository cou l dh elp, but..
<do lson>Id on ' t  ag ree  with a 3r dparty repo. t h at ' s why I'm here
<sir etart> dols o n:my imp re ssi o n is t hat m an y  au dio applica tion  are simp ly not maturee nough.so wha tsact uall y  n ee ded  i s  mo r eups t rea m work ( up st reams  are u s u ally  ha ppyfor a ny help theyare  off e red )
<do lson>  the re 's adiffer encebe tween bleedingedge  and "rel eas ed  al mo st ay ear ag o"<si retart>  I agre e  th at t h er e is no need for a no t h er  3rd par ty rep o 
< si r etart> s owha ts t h e  poin t?
< d ol son> wha t's th e  p oi nt of w ha t?
<si re tar t>never mind 
<dols on> Linu x aud i o apps have co m e a long way. . .t h ey ' re i mpr oving all t he t i me.I'mn ot  ap rogra mmer,  o r  I would help out upst re am. Ju st be cause they ar en't at th e e xact sam e le v el as commercialappsfor otherO Ses does n't m ean that  we shoul d simply i gno rethe m
< s i re tart> the sam e appl ie s not o nly  to aud iorel ate d a pp lications  but toev er yfr eesoftw a re
<dols on > I  a gre e. an d  other  peop le a re  c o nce rned wi t ho t herso ft ware , a nd  notaudi o . I  am con cerned wi tha udio ,an d not o thers
#ubuntu -m otu 2006-0 3- 16<mkruf k y > LaserJ ock_away: i know you're not aro und  -- m y ti me was sc arc e toda y.. .  Hopef ully I 'll h av e t i m e ear l y  n ext  w eek, and I ' l l r ead t he  mot u wikietc.... so i can u p loa d that php5-m ssq l pa c k ag e
< m kr u fky >L ase r J ock_away: thank s for theti p 
< mkrufky> b y e a ll 
<tseng > nice,  dela y  hits o snews
<ts eng> in t ru e fo r m 
<L aserJock>netzmeis ter: nabe n d!
<s i st poty>  si retart  |  sl omo |  dholb a ch:  plea se che ck  #4749 
<slo mo > sistpo ty: XOR or OR? ;)
<sist poty>slomo : O R ;)
<slo mo> 
dong on_the forums_to see if my_guys (from_ubuntustudio)_can cooperate_with_him to get_updated audio apps..._it's a big complaint_I hear almost_daily_from people on IRC, MSN, AIM, etc
<siretart> dolson: well, if the problem was that_the_applications would_be_always_outdated, then some add-on repository_could help, but..
<dolson> I don't_agree with_a 3rd party repo. that's why I'm here
<siretart>_dolson:_my impression is_that many audio application are simply not mature enough._so whats actually needed is more_upstream work (upstreams_are_usually_happy for any help_they are offered)
<dolson> there's a difference_between bleeding edge and "released almost_a year ago"
<siretart> I agree that there_is no need for another 3rd_party repo
<siretart> so whats the_point?
<dolson> what's_the point of what?
<siretart> never_mind
<dolson> Linux audio_apps have_come a long_way... they're improving all the time._I'm not a_programmer, or I would help out_upstream._Just because they_aren't_at_the exact_same level as_commercial_apps for_other_OSes doesn't mean that we should_simply_ignore them
<siretart> the same applies not only_to audio related applications_but_to every free software
<dolson>_I agree. and other people_are concerned with other software, and_not audio._I am_concerned with audio, and not others
#ubuntu-motu 2006-03-16
<mkrufky> LaserJock_away: i know you're_not around -- my time was_scarce today... Hopefully I'll_have time_early_next week, and_I'll_read the_motu wiki etc.... so i can upload_that php5-mssql_package
<mkrufky> LaserJock_away: thanks for the tip
<mkrufky>_bye all
<tseng> nice, delay_hits_osnews
<tseng> in true form
<LaserJock> netzmeister: nabend!
<sistpoty>_siretart | slomo | dholbach: please_check #4749
<slomo> sistpoty: XOR or_OR?_;)
<sistpoty>_slomo: OR ;)
<slomo>