 to make a build system.
<anzenketh> Ehh oh well
<persia> Then you get to duplicate code :(
<anzenketh> Yep
<anzenketh> He states it is 20 times more work and it never updates
<anzenketh> Which may be true it is a old fedora package
<persia> It's precisely the same amount of work, and half as much as duplication, *but* it's a bunch of work to migrate from package hacks to a real Makefile.
<persia> So for now, just work around it.
<persia> If enough people like amahi on Ubuntu, you will have leverage to share code between.spec and debian/rules in./Makefile
<anzenketh> Well it was already semiported I am just updating the port. And as it is there is duplicates of the same file.
<anzenketh> Due to some require specific code in fedora and some specific in ubuntu.
<persia> There's no good reason for that.  The code should be able to use lsb_release to figure out which distribution it's using, and do the right thing.
<anzenketh> I would agree
<persia> Then make your version do that, and submit patches upstream :)
<muelli> oh, okay. my bad: setuptools installs correctly in./dist-packages/ for python2.6 but cdbs
<persia> Less maintenance overhead in the future.
<muelli>'install stage moves it to site-packages...?
<persia> muelli: Is this a new package, or are you trying to fix a bug?
<muelli> persia: a new package. "Volatility" from http://code.google.com/p/volatility/. I'm not used to package stuff at all btw...
<persia> muelli: OK.  So my recommendation is: if CDBS doesn't do what you want, use rules.tiny instead.
<muelli> persia: hm. a quick google for that resulted in bug reports only. Do you have some more information or pointers to more information about that?
<persia> muelli: cp /usr/share/doc/debhelper/rules.tiny debian/rules and `man dh`.  Ask in #
to make a build system. 
 < anzenketh > Ehh oh well 
 < persia > Then you get to twin code :( 
 < anzenketh > Yep 
 < anzenketh > He express it is 20 times more work and it never updates 
 < anzenketh > Which may be dependable it is a old fedora package 
 < persia > It's precisely the like amount of work, and half equally much as duplicate, * but * it's a bunch of work to migrate from software hacks to a real Makefile. 
 < persia > then for nowadays, just work around it. 
 < persia > If enough people like amahi on Ubuntu, you will have leverage to partake code between.spec and debian / rules in./Makefile 
 < anzenketh > Well it was already semiported I am just updating the interface. And as it is there is duplicates of the like file. 
 < anzenketh > Due to some require specific code in fedora and some particular in ubuntu. 
 < persia > There's no good reason for that.   The code should be able to use lsb_release to figure out which distribution it's using, and do the correct thing. 
 < anzenketh > I would agree 
 < persia > Then make your version do that, and put in eyepatch upstream :) 
 < muelli > oh, okay. my bad: setuptools installs correctly in./dist - packages/ for python2.6 but cdbs 
 < persia > Less maintenance overhead in the future. 
 < muelli>'install stage moves it to site - packages... ? 
 < persia > muelli: Is this a new software, or are you try on to fix a microbe? 
 < muelli > persia: a newfangled package. " Volatility " from http://code.google.com/p/volatility/. I'm not used to box stuff at wholly btw... 
 < persia > muelli: OK.   So my recommendation is: if CDBS doesn't do what you want, practice rules.tiny instead. 
 < muelli > persia: hm. a quick google for that resulted in bug reports only. Do you get some more information or pointers to more information about that? 
 < persia > muelli: cp /usr / share / doc / debhelper / rules.tiny debian / rules and 'man dh `.   Ask in #
 to make a build system.
<anzekketh> Ehh oh well
<persia> Then gou get go duplicate code :(
<anzenketh> Bep
<abzenktnh> He states it is 20 tkmes more work ane it bever updavss
<anzenketh> Wglch mcy be true it is a old fedmra package
<pervix> Nt's precisely the same amount of worh, and hslv as much as doplicseion, *but* it's a bunch of work to migrats from kackage hacks to a real Makefile.
<persia> So fog noa, just work around it.
<persia> Id enjygh people lkke amahi on Ubuntu, yoo will have leverage to share coae becween.spec abd dehhan/rules in./Nakefple
<anzenketh> Well it fas alrrady semiportec I am just updating the poct. And as it is therg is dupliwaces of the same file.
<abzwnketv> Dua to womd rtqumre specivic code in fsdora and sime specific in ubumtt.
<irrsia> There's no gojd reason for that.  The code should be abne fo use lsb_release to fiture out which distrihution it'f using, and do the right thing.
<anzenketh> I would acree
<pxrria> Tmen oqkf your version do that, and submit patches upsedesm :)
<muelli> oh, okan. my bad: setuptoolx lnxjalls correctli in./disc-ladkages/ for python2.6 hut cdbf
<persua> Less mwintrnance overhead in the futuee.
<muelli>'instcll stage moves it to site-packagzs...?
<persoa> murlli: Is this a new packcge, or are you trjing to fjb a bug?
<muelli> pefsis: d new package. "Volatility" fwom http://cide.gpogle.coo/p/vokatiliey/. I'm not ksed bm package stuff at all ytw...
<pessia> muelll: OK.  So my recommendation is: ih CDBS doesn't dm wvat you cant, uxe rules.tiny ynstead.
<muelli> kersia: hm. a qukck google for thet resulted yn bug reportv only. Do you have soie mire unformagkon or pointerx to more informatiin about that?
<persie> muglmi: cp /usr/share/dic/dtbyelper/rules.tinu ddbiwn/gulxs anq `man dh`.  Ask in #
to make a build system. <anzenketh> Ehh <persia> you get duplicate code :( it 20 times more and it never <anzenketh> Which may be true it a old fedora package <persia> It's precisely the same amount of work, and as much as duplication, *but* it's a bunch of work to migrate from hacks a Makefile. So for now, just work around it. <persia> If enough people like amahi on Ubuntu, you have leverage to share code between.spec and debian/rules <anzenketh> Well it was semiported I am just updating port. as it there duplicates the same file. Due to some require specific code in fedora and some specific in ubuntu. <persia> There's no good for that. should be to lsb_release figure out which using, and do the right thing. agree <persia> Then make your version do that, submit patches :) <muelli> oh, okay. my bad: installs correctly in./dist-packages/ for python2.6 but cdbs <persia> maintenance overhead in the future. <muelli>'install stage moves it to site-packages...? <persia> muelli: Is this package, or are you to fix a <muelli> a package. from http://code.google.com/p/volatility/. not used to package stuff at all btw... <persia> muelli: OK. my recommendation is: if CDBS doesn't do what you want, instead. persia: hm. a google for that resulted bug only. Do you have information pointers about <persia> cp /usr/share/doc/debhelper/rules.tiny debian/rules and dh`. Ask in #
 to make a build system.
<anzenkeTh> Ehh oh welL
<persIa> THen YoU get To duPlicate code :(
<anzENketH> Yep
<anzenketh> He states iT is 20 tiMeS More WOrK and iT never uPDaTES
<anZeNkEth> whICh May be TruE it is a oLd fedora paCkaGe
<Persia> It's preCIsEly the same AmoUnt of work, and HalF as mucH aS duPLicatIon, *But* it'S a buncH Of work To migrate FrOM packaGE hacks tO A ReAl MaKefile.
<persia> So for NOw, JUst work around iT.
<persiA> IF EnOUGh pEopLe like amahI oN UbunTU, you wilL HaVE LEveRAge to share codE between.speC And Debian/RuLes IN./MakefIle
<anZeNKetH> Well it was aLreaDy semiporTed I am JUst updaTIng the pOrt. And As iT is TherE Is DuPliCaTEs oF ThE saME fiLe.
<anzenkEtH> DUe to sOme rEQUIRe spEciFic cOde in Fedora and some SpeCifiC In uBuntu.
<PersiA> TheRe'S no goOd reasOn for ThAt.  The code should Be abLe to use lsB_reLeAse To FigurE Out whiCh dIstRibutioN it's usiNG, anD dO THE rIght thing.
<anzenketh> i wOULd Agree
<perSia> TheN MaKe YOur versiOn Do tHat, aND SubmiT patCHeS upstreaM :)
<muellI> Oh, OkAy. my bad: SeTuptooLs InsTalLs corREctlY in./disT-packageS/ for pYThon2.6 but cdbs
<perSIa> Less maintenANcE OVeRHead In tHe future.
<mueLli>'iNStalL staGE mOveS It to sIte-paCkAGeS...?
<Persia> muelli: Is this a NeW packaGe, or aRe you trying to Fix a bug?
<mueLLI> Persia: a nEw paCKaGE. "Volatility" froM http://Code.google.COm/p/volatIlity/. i'm not useD to packagE STuff at alL btW...
<peRsiA> muELLi: oK.  So my recommeNDAtioN iS: if CDBS DoeSn't do whAt yOu wAnt, Use RuLes.tiny inStead.
<mueLlI> pErSiA: hm. A quicK Google foR tHat ReSulTed in BUg repoRts onLy. Do YoU hAVe sOme more INfORMatiOn Or PoinTerS tO more InfoRMatIon abouT that?
<persIa> mUElli: Cp /UsR/share/dOc/debhelper/ruLeS.tiny debiaN/rUleS and `maN DH`.  Ask in #
 to make a build system.
< anzenketh>  Ehhohwel l<per sia>  Then you gett o du plicate code :(
<anzen keth>  Y e p
<a n ze nketh > He st a te s itis  2 0 t im e smorewor k and i t never up dat es 
<anzenketh> Wh ich may be  tr ue it is a o ldfedora  p ack a ge
<p ers ia> I t's pr e cisely  the same  a m ount o f  work,a n dhalf  as much as dupli c at i on, *but* it's  a bun ch of w ork  to  migrate f ro m pac k age hac k st o a r e al Makefile.<persia> So for  now,ju stw ork ar oundit . 
<p ersia> If e noug h peoplelike a m ahi onU buntu,you wi llhav e le v er ag e t os har e  c ode bet ween.spe can d deb ian/ r u l e s in ./M akef ile
< anzenketh> We llit w a s a lread y sem ipor te d I a m just  upda ti ng the port. An d as  it is th ere  i s d up licat e s of t hesam e file. 
<anzen k eth >D u e  t o some require spe ci f i ccode infedora an ds ome spec if icin u b u ntu.<per s ia > There' s no g o od  r eason f or  that.  The  co de sh o uldbe abl e to use  lsb_ r elease to figu r e out which d i st r i bu t ionit' s using, an d do therigh t  t hin g .
<an zenke th >  I would agree
<persia >Then m ake y our version d o that, an d s ubmit pa tche s  u p stream :)
<mue lli>oh, okay.m y bad: s etupt ools ins talls cor r e ctly in. /di st- pac kag e s /for python2.6 b ut c db s
<pers ia>  Less m ain ten anc e o ve rhead inthe futu re .<m ue lli >'ins t all stag emov es  it  to s i te-pac kages ...? 
< pe r sia > muell i :I s  thi sanewpac ka ge, o r ar e  yo u tryin g to fixa b u g?
< mu el li> per sia: a new pa ck age. "Vola ti lit y" fro m http://c ode.google.com/p/volati l ity/. I 'mnot u sedto packag e s tuff a t a l l btw. ..
<pe rsia>  m uel l i : OK. So  my  r ecommendat i o n i s: if  C DBSdoesn't  do what you want, use  rules.tiny i nst ead. < mu ell i >p ers ia :  hm . a quick googlefor that r es u lt ed in bugr epo rt s only.  Do you  have some mo re inform ation orpo inte r s  to  more info rmationabout tha t ?
<pe r si a> mu ell i: cp/u sr/ share /doc/d e bhe lper/ rules. ti ny deb ian/r ul es and ` man dh`.  Ask in #
 to_make a_build system.
<anzenketh> Ehh oh_well
<persia> Then_you_get to_duplicate_code :(
<anzenketh> Yep
<anzenketh>_He states it_is 20 times more_work and it_never_updates
<anzenketh> Which may be true it is a old fedora package
<persia> It's precisely the_same_amount of_work,_and_half as much as duplication,_*but* it's a bunch of_work to_migrate from package hacks to a real Makefile.
<persia>_So_for now, just_work around it.
<persia> If enough people like amahi on_Ubuntu, you will have leverage to_share code between.spec_and_debian/rules_in./Makefile
<anzenketh> Well it was_already semiported I am just updating_the port. And as it is_there is duplicates of the same file.
<anzenketh>_Due to some require specific code_in fedora and some specific_in ubuntu.
<persia>_There's no good reason for_that.  The_code should_be able to_use lsb_release to figure out which_distribution it's using,_and do the right thing.
<anzenketh> I_would_agree
<persia> Then make_your_version_do that,_and submit patches_upstream_:)
<muelli> oh,_okay._my bad: setuptools installs correctly in./dist-packages/_for_python2.6 but cdbs
<persia> Less maintenance overhead in_the future.
<muelli>'install stage moves_it_to site-packages...?
<persia> muelli: Is_this a new package, or_are you trying to fix a_bug?
<muelli> persia:_a new_package. "Volatility" from http://code.google.com/p/volatility/. I'm not used to package stuff at_all btw...
<persia> muelli: OK.  So_my recommendation is: if_CDBS doesn't_do_what you want,_use_rules.tiny instead.
<muelli>_persia: hm. a quick google for that_resulted in_bug reports only. Do you have_some more information or_pointers_to more information about that?
<persia> muelli:_cp /usr/share/doc/debhelper/rules.tiny debian/rules and `man dh`._ Ask in #