 my laptop, so I can't exactly remember where I gave up
<Laney> we should really move stuff to devscripts
<DktrKranz> +0,9
<mok0> DktrKranz:... but it was on the 10th or 12th package in the chain...
<DktrKranz> (missing 0.1 is for some scripts really Ubuntu-specific)
<Laney> but they don't have python scripts there afaik
<Rhonda> hyperair: Actually, it isn't scary at all. Just take a look at the rules file of netris, the package is small enough to do a quick apt-get. (and it's not manoj)
<Rhonda> apt-get source of course. :)
<Rhonda> And it helps to find out what's actually going on behind the curtain of dh.
<mok0> You don't want to look at dh... it is explosive and is likely to cover you with scraps of incomprehensible chunks of perl goo
<DktrKranz> Laney: exactly, just perl (IIRC)
<Laney> I find joeyh's perl pretty readable tbh
<mok0> I wrote a perl program once... about 2 hours after I wrote it, it was already impossible to figure out what it was doing
<mok0> :-)
<DktrKranz> mok0: it's not your fault, it happens :)
<mok0> Heh
<Rhonda> mok0: That's why there is no dh in netris packaging.
<DktrKranz> I once wrote a Python program, but it self-exploed because of my bad PEP-8
<mok0> Rhonda: Ah, respect!
 * mok0 forgets the python urbanities... PEP-8?
<DktrKranz> coding style
<DktrKranz> URLly http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
<mok0> Ah... white space
<mok0> DktrKranz: The only really sucky thing about python... otherwise I love it
 * mok0 wonders, since Python has an opening brace, why can't
my laptop, so I can't exactly remember where I gave up 
 < Laney > we should really be active material to devscripts 
 < DktrKranz > +0,9 
 < mok0 > DktrKranz: ... but it was on the 10th or 12th software in the chain... 
 < DktrKranz > (miss 0.1 is for some scripts really Ubuntu - specific) 
 < Laney > but they don't hold python scripts there afaik 
 < Rhonda > hyperair: Actually, it isn't scary at wholly. barely take a spirit at the rules file of netris, the package is modest enough to serve a quick apt - get. (and it's not manoj) 
 < Rhonda > apt - get source of course. :) 
 < Rhonda > And it helps to recover out what's actually going on behind the curtain of dh. 
 < mok0 > You don't want to look at dh... it is explosive and is probable to cover you with scraps of inexplicable chunks of perl sludge 
 < DktrKranz > Laney: exactly, just perl (IIRC) 
 < Laney > I find joeyh's perl pretty readable tbh 
 < mok0 > I wrote a perl platform once... about 2 hours after I wrote it, it was already impossible to figure out what it was doing 
 < mok0 > :-) 
 < DktrKranz > mok0: it's not your fault, it happens :) 
 < mok0 > Heh 
 < Rhonda > mok0: That's why there is no dh in netris packaging. 
 < DktrKranz > I once wrote a Python program, but it self - exploed because of my bad PEP-8 
 < mok0 > Rhonda: Ah, respect! 
  * mok0 forgets the python urbanities... PEP-8? 
 < DktrKranz > coding style 
 < DktrKranz > URLly http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ 
 < mok0 > Ah... blank space 
 < mok0 > DktrKranz: The only very sucky matter about python... differently I love it 
  * mok0 wonders, since Python has an opening brace, why can't
 my laptop, so I can't exactln remember where I gave up
<Lansy> we shuuld really move stuff to detscrupts
<DjtrKranz> +0,9
<mok0> DktrKranz:... but it wws on thw 10th ir 12th packefe in tmz chajk...
<DktrNcanz> (missing 0.1 ix for some scripts reallf Jbbntu-specific)
<Laney> but they don't have python sfripts there asaik
<Ghjnda> hyperair: Actually, it isn't scary af all. Jlst take a look ay the rules file of netris, the package is small fnough to di a zyick apt-get. (xnd it's nou kanoj)
<Rhondz> apt-get source of course. :)
<Rhondx> And it helps jo fltd out what'w actlally going ok behing the cirtain of dh.
<mol0> Ymu eon't want to look at vh... it is explosive agd is likalv to cover you with sxrqps ox inwompfwhevsiglx cgunks lf 'erl goo
<DktdKranz> Lanet: exactly, just perl (IYGV)
<Laney> I fins joeyr's perl pretty readable tbh
<mok0> I wrote a kerl lrogram once... about 2 houes after I wrote it, ij was alrewdy impossible to figure out what it was doing
<mok0> :-)
<DktrIfane> nok0: ig'w jot your fault, it happens :)
<mok0> Heh
<Rhonda> mok0: Trzt'x ehy there is nj dh in nettid lwckaging.
<DktrKtanz> I oncs wrote a Python pgogram, fut ir self-expjoed because of my bad PEP-8
<mok0> Ryonda: Ah, resiect!
 * mok0 forgets the 'ython urbannties... KEP-8?
<DkttKranz> coding style
<DktrYrana> URLly htto://www.pythoh.urg/dev/peps/pep-0008/
<mok0> Ah... wvite space
<mok0> DktrKranz: Thq only reelly xucky tfing about python... otjerwise I love it
 * mok0 wlnderd, vince Pythln has an opening brace, why can'v
my laptop, so I can't exactly remember gave <Laney> we really move stuff DktrKranz:... it was on 10th or 12th in the chain... <DktrKranz> (missing 0.1 for some scripts really Ubuntu-specific) <Laney> but they don't have python scripts there <Rhonda> hyperair: Actually, it isn't scary at all. Just take a look at rules of the is small enough to do a quick apt-get. (and it's not manoj) <Rhonda> apt-get source of :) <Rhonda> And it helps to find out actually going on behind curtain of dh. <mok0> You want look at it explosive is likely to you with scraps of incomprehensible chunks of perl goo <DktrKranz> Laney: exactly, just perl (IIRC) <Laney> I joeyh's perl tbh <mok0> wrote perl once... about 2 I wrote it, it was already out what it was doing <mok0> :-) <DktrKranz> it's not fault, it happens :) <mok0> Heh mok0: That's why there is no dh in packaging. <DktrKranz> I once wrote a Python program, but it self-exploed because of my bad Rhonda: Ah, respect! * forgets the python PEP-8? coding <DktrKranz> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ <mok0> white space <mok0> DktrKranz: The only really sucky thing about python... I love it * mok0 wonders, since Python has an why
 my laptop, so I can't exactly remEmber where i gave Up
<LAneY> wE shoUld rEally move stuff TO devScripts
<DktrKranz> +0,9
<mok0> DktRKranZ:... bUT it wAS oN the 10tH or 12th paCKaGE In tHe ChAin...
<dkTRKRanz> (mIssIng 0.1 is foR some scripTs rEaLly Ubuntu-speCIfIc)
<Laney> but TheY don't have pytHon ScriptS tHerE Afaik
<rhoNda> hyPerair: aCtuallY, it isn't scArY At all. JUSt take a LOOk At thE rules file of netriS, ThE Package is small Enough To DO a QUIck Apt-Get. (and it's nOt Manoj)
<rHonda> apT-GeT SOUrcE Of course. :)
<RhondA> And it helps TO fiNd out wHaT's aCTually Going On BEhiNd the curtaiN of dH.
<mok0> You doN't want TO look at DH... it is exPlosivE anD is LikeLY tO cOveR yOU wiTH sCraPS of IncompreHeNsIble cHunkS OF PErl gOo
<DKtrKRanz> LAney: exactly, juSt pErl (IirC)
<LAney> I Find jOeyh'S pErl prEtty reAdablE tBh
<mok0> I wrote a perL proGram once... aBouT 2 hOurS aFter I WRote it, It wAs aLready iMpossibLE to FiGURE oUt what it was doing
<moK0> :-)
<DKTRKRanz> mok0: iT's not yOUr FaULt, it happEnS :)
<moK0> Heh
<rHOnda> mOk0: ThAT's Why there Is no dh IN nEtRis packAgIng.
<DktRKRanZ> I oNce wrOTe a PYthon pRogram, buT it seLF-exploed becausE Of my bad PEP-8
<mok0> rHoNDA: AH, RespEct!
 * Mok0 forgets tHe pyTHon uRbanITiEs... Pep-8?
<Dktrkranz> CoDInG Style
<DktrKranz> URLly HtTp://www.pYthon.Org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
<Mok0> Ah... white SPACe
<mok0> DktRKraNZ: THE only really sucKy thiNg about pytHOn... otherwIse I lOve it
 * mok0 Wonders, siNCE Python hAs aN opEniNg bRACe, Why can't
 my laptop, so I can't exa ctly remem ber w her e I  g aveup
< Laney> we shou l d re ally move stuff to dev scrip ts <Dkt r Kr anz>+0,9
<m o k0 > Dkt rK ra nz: .. .  b ut it  wa s on th e 10th or12t hpackage in t h echain...
< Dkt rKranz> (mis sin g 0.1is  fo r  some  sc ripts  reall y  Ubunt u-specifi c) <Laney >  but th e y  d on't  have python scri p ts there afaik
<R honda>  h y pe r a ir:  Ac tually, it  i sn'ts cary at al l . Jus t  take a lookat the rule s  fi le ofne tri s , thepacka ge issmall enoug h to  do a qui ck apt - get. (a n d it'snot ma noj )
< Rhon d a>  a pt- ge t  so u rc e o f  co urse. :) 
< Rh onda>  And i t help s t o fi nd ou t what's actu all y go i ngon be hindthecu rtain  of dh .
<mo k0 > You don't wan t to  look atdh. ..  it  i s exp l osiveand  is  likely  to cov e r y ou w i th  scraps of incompr eh e n si ble chun ks ofp er lg oo
<Dktr Kr anz > La n e y: ex actl y ,just per l (IIR C )<L aney> I  f ind jo ey h's  pe rl pr e ttyreadab le tbh
< mok0> I wrote a perl program once. . .a b ou t  2 h our s after I w rote it,it w a salr e ady i mposs ib l et o figure out what i twas do ing
< mok0> :-)
<Dk trKranz> m o k 0 : it's n ot y o ur fault, it happ ens : )
<mok0> H e h
<Rhond a> mo k0: That 's why th e r e is nodhinnet ris p ac kaging.
<Dktr K r anz>  I  once w rot e a Pyt hon  pr ogr am,  b ut it sel f-exploe dbe ca us e o f myb ad PEP-8 
< mok 0>  Rh onda: Ah, re spect !
 *  m ok 0  fo rgets t h ep y thon  u rb anit ies .. . PEP -8?< Dkt rKranz>  coding s tyl e 
<Dk tr Kr anz> UR Lly http://ww w. python.org /d ev/ peps/p e p -0008/
< mok0> Ah... white space <mok0>Dkt rKran z: T he only r eal ly suc kyt hing a bout p ython .. . o t h erwis e Ilov eit
 * mok0 w ond ers,si ncePythonhas an opening bra c e,why can't
 my_laptop, so_I can't exactly remember_where I_gave_up
<Laney> we_should_really move stuff_to devscripts
<DktrKranz> +0,9
<mok0>_DktrKranz:... but it was_on the 10th_or_12th package in the chain...
<DktrKranz> (missing 0.1 is for some scripts really Ubuntu-specific)
<Laney> but_they_don't have_python_scripts_there afaik
<Rhonda> hyperair: Actually, it_isn't scary at all. Just_take a_look at the rules file of netris, the_package_is small enough_to do a quick apt-get. (and it's not manoj)
<Rhonda>_apt-get source of course. :)
<Rhonda> And_it helps to_find_out_what's actually going on_behind the curtain of dh.
<mok0> You_don't want to look at dh..._it is explosive and is likely to_cover you with scraps of incomprehensible_chunks of perl goo
<DktrKranz> Laney:_exactly, just_perl (IIRC)
<Laney> I find joeyh's_perl pretty readable_tbh
<mok0> I_wrote a perl_program once... about 2 hours after_I wrote it,_it was already impossible to figure_out_what it was_doing
<mok0>_:-)
<DktrKranz>_mok0: it's_not your fault,_it_happens :)
<mok0>_Heh
<Rhonda>_mok0: That's why there is no_dh_in netris packaging.
<DktrKranz> I once wrote a_Python program, but it_self-exploed_because of my bad_PEP-8
<mok0> Rhonda: Ah, respect!
 *_mok0 forgets the python urbanities... PEP-8?
<DktrKranz>_coding style
<DktrKranz>_URLly http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
<mok0>_Ah... white space
<mok0> DktrKranz: The only really sucky thing about python..._otherwise I love it
 * mok0_wonders, since Python has_an opening_brace,_why can't