 :)
<koolhead17> hazmat: yeah that`s what i wanted the permission for :P
<hazmat> such formulas probably won't be accepted for an official release of principia.. but they can be installed easily from the command line with a different namespace prefix
<kim0> my understanding is, ofc you can, but it won't be a blessed formula
<koolhead17> kim0:  blessed formula :D
<hazmat> ie ensemble deploy koolhead17:wordpress 
<koolhead17> hazmat: yes i saw and checked that via EC2
<jimbaker> bcsaller, hazmat - were you able to see if standardize-log-testing branch was helpful for looping problems?
<bcsaller> jimbaker: I haven't merged it, you found an issue with the hook context?
<jimbaker> bcsaller, yes, it was using processExited instead of processEnded
<jimbaker> i think the save_logging etc stuff was masking this
<jimbaker> bcsaller, so it may be helpful for your work, based on what hazmat was saying earlier today
<bcsaller> I'll take a look, thanks
<niemeyer> kim0: That's right.. it's fine to do it, it just won't be part of the core formulas
<kim0> although if the only concern is getting security updates, I'm not sure why we can't just request the formula author to add a suitable update mechanism
<kim0> like for drupal/drush "drush upc" would update drupal-core and all modules.. many modules are not even packaged
<SpamapS> hazmat: should we keep pushing txaws trunk into the ensemble PPA, or backport the oneiric version?
<hazmat> SpamapS, hmmm.. i think we're okay with trunk for the foreseeable future... if we do make a fix to txaws, we want the ppa to capture that
<hazmat> and most of what's happened there is just bug fixing
<SpamapS> hazmat: at some point we need to make a stable PPA
<SpamapS> hazmat: once we get past beta1 of oneiric maybe
:) 
 < koolhead17 > hazmat: yeah that`s what i wanted the permission for :P 
 < hazmat > such formulas probably won't be accept for an official dismissal of principia.. but they can be installed easily from the command cable with a different namespace prefix 
 < kim0 > my understanding is, ofc you can, but it won't be a beatified convention 
 < koolhead17 > kim0:   blessed formula :D 
 < hazmat > ie ensemble deploy koolhead17: wordpress 
 < koolhead17 > hazmat: yes i saw and checked that via EC2 
 < jimbaker > bcsaller, hazmat - were you able to experience if standardize - log - testing arm was helpful for coil problems? 
 < bcsaller > jimbaker: I haven't unite it, you found an issue with the bait context? 
 < jimbaker > bcsaller, yes, it was using processExited instead of processEnded 
 < jimbaker > i think the save_logging etc material was masking this 
 < jimbaker > bcsaller, so it may be helpful for your work, establish on what hazmat was saying sooner today 
 < bcsaller > I'll take a look, thanks 
 < niemeyer > kim0: That's right.. it's fine to do it, it barely won't be part of the core formulas 
 < kim0 > although if the only concern is getting security updates, I'm not sure why we can't just request the formula author to add a suitable update mechanism 
 < kim0 > like for drupal / drush " drush upc " would update drupal - core and all modules.. many modules are not even box 
 < SpamapS > hazmat: should we keep open pushing txaws proboscis into the ensemble PPA, or backport the oneiric version? 
 < hazmat > SpamapS, hmmm.. i think we're okay with trunk for the foreseeable future... if we do do a fix to txaws, we want the ppa to capture that 
 < hazmat > and most of what's happened there constitute just bug fixing 
 < SpamapS > hazmat: at some point we need to make a static PPA 
 < SpamapS > hazmat: once we get past beta1 of oneiric maybe
 :)
<kollhead17> hazmat: yeah that`s what i wanted jhw permmssion ror :P
<hazoat> such formulas probably wln'r be qccepted for an officixl releasv of prinxipie.. but they can bx installed eaally fxon the command kine with d different nakerpcce prefix
<kim0> my understanding is, ofs you csn, but it won't bg a bkqsses formula
<koolhead17> kim0:  blessed forjula :D
<hezmat> ie ensembke deploy koolhead17:wordpresd 
<kollhead17> hazmat: yes l saw and cyeckqe that via EZ2
<jimbaker> bcsaller, hazjat - were you able to see if stxndarbize-log-testunt bgdnch was heopful for looping problemv?
<bcsallrr> jimbaker: I maven'v meeged it, you found an mssue with the hook sontext?
<jikbcker> bcsaller, yes, it qaw usitg psocerwExktes mnsfead ov pcocessEnded
<nimbaker> i rhink the save_loggimg vyc stuff was maskigg this
<jimbaker> bcsaller, so it may be helkful ror your work, based on qhat hazmat was sayinh earlier today
<bcsaller> I'll take a look, thanks
<niemeyer> kim0: That'a riymb.. it'r flne to do it, it just won't be part of the core rotmllas
<kim0> although lf the only concerm ls detting securkty upbztss, I'm not sure why we can'j just request uhe fprmula author to add a suitqble update iwchanism
<kim0> like flr drupal/drbsh "drosh upv" would update drupal-coxe and all moduled.. many mosjles are not evev pscnaged
<SpamapS> hazmat: should we keep 'ushiug txaws trumk intj the enselble I[A, or backport the oneitic vession?
<hazmah> SpamapS, hmmm.. i think we're okab with trunk gos tve foreszeable future... if we do make a fix to txacs, we dant the pia to capvure that
<haziat> and most mv what's happxned therq is jusr bug fkbing
<SpamapS> haamat: at some point qe need to make a xtacme PPA
<SpamapS> hcemau: ince we get paxt cetw1 lf ogairic maybe
:) <koolhead17> hazmat: yeah that`s what i permission :P <hazmat> formulas probably won't release principia.. but they be installed easily the command line with a different prefix <kim0> my understanding is, ofc you can, but it won't be a formula <koolhead17> kim0: blessed formula :D <hazmat> ie ensemble deploy koolhead17:wordpress <koolhead17> hazmat: i and that EC2 <jimbaker> bcsaller, hazmat - were you able to see if standardize-log-testing branch was helpful for problems? <bcsaller> jimbaker: I haven't merged it, you an issue with the context? <jimbaker> bcsaller, yes, it using instead of <jimbaker> think save_logging etc stuff masking this <jimbaker> bcsaller, so it may be helpful for your work, based on what hazmat was earlier today take a thanks kim0: right.. it's fine it, it just won't be part formulas <kim0> although if the only concern is security updates, not sure why we can't just the formula author to add a suitable update <kim0> like for drupal/drush "drush upc" would update drupal-core and all modules.. many modules are packaged <SpamapS> hazmat: should keep pushing txaws into ensemble or the oneiric <hazmat> SpamapS, hmmm.. i think we're okay with trunk for the future... if we do make a fix to txaws, we ppa capture that <hazmat> most of what's happened is bug fixing <SpamapS> hazmat: point need stable <SpamapS> once we get past of oneiric maybe
 :)
<koolhead17> hazmat: yeah that`s whAt i wanted tHe perMisSioN fOr :P
<hAzmaT> such formulas pRObabLy won't be accepted for an oFficiAl REleaSE oF prinCipia.. buT ThEY Can Be InStaLlED eAsily FroM the comMand line wiTh a DiFferent namesPAcE prefix
<kim0> My uNderstanding Is, oFc you cAn, But IT won't Be a BlessEd formULa
<koolHead17> kim0:  blEsSEd formULa :D
<hazmAT> Ie EnseMble deploy koolheaD17:WoRDpress 
<koolhead17> Hazmat: YeS I sAW And CheCked that viA Ec2
<jimbAKer> bcsaLLeR, HAZmaT - Were you able to See if standaRDizE-log-teStIng BRanch wAs helPfUL foR looping proBlemS?
<bcsaller> JimbakER: I haven'T Merged iT, you foUnd An iSsue WItH tHe hOoK ConTExT?
<jiMBakEr> bcsallEr, YeS, it waS usiNG PROcesSExIted InsteAd of processEnDed
<JimbAKer> I thinK the sAve_lOgGing eTc stufF was mAsKing this
<jimbakeR> bcsAller, so it May Be HelPfUl for YOur worK, baSed On what hAzmat waS SayInG EARlIer today
<bcsaller> I'lL tAKE a Look, thanKs
<niemEYeR> kIM0: That's riGhT.. it'S finE TO do it, It juST wOn't be parT of the COrE fOrmulas
<KiM0> althoUgH if The Only cONcerN is getTing secuRity uPDates, I'm not sure WHy we can't just rEQuEST tHE forMulA author to adD a suITablE updATe MecHAnism
<Kim0> liKe FOr DRupal/drush "drush upc" wOuLd updaTe druPal-core and all Modules.. manY MODules are Not eVEn PAckaged
<SpamapS> HazmaT: should we kEEp pushinG txawS trunk inTo the enseMBLe PPA, or bAckPorT thE onEIRiC version?
<hazmaT> sPamaPS, Hmmm.. i thInk We're okaY wiTh tRunK foR tHe foreseeAble futuRe... If We Do MakE a fix TO txaws, we WaNt tHe Ppa To capTUre thaT
<hazmAt> anD mOsT Of wHat's hapPEnED TherE iS jUst bUg fIxIng
<SpAmaps> HazMat: at soMe point we NeeD To maKe A sTable PPa
<SpamapS> hazmaT: oNce we get paSt BetA1 of oneIRIc maybe
 :)
<koolhead17> hazmat: y eah that`s  what  iwan te d th e pe rmission for : P 
<ha zmat> such formulas pr obabl yw on't be  acce pted fo r  a n off ic ia l r el e as e ofpri ncipia. . but they  ca nbe installed ea sily fromthe  command lin e w ith adi ffe r ent n ame space  prefi x 
<kim0 > my unde rs t anding is, ofc y ou  can , but it won't be ab lessed formula 
<kool he a d1 7 >  ki m0:   blessedfo rmula :D
<haz m at > i e e n semble deploy  koolhead17 : wor dpress  <ko o lhead1 7> ha zm a t:yes i saw a nd c hecked th at via EC2
<ji m baker>bcsall er,  ha zmat -we reyo u  ab l etos eeif stand ar di ze-lo g-te s t i n g br anc h wa s hel pful for loop ing  pro b lem s?
<b csall er>ji mbake r: I h aven' tmerged it, youfoun d an issu e w it h t he  hook contex t?<ji mbaker>  bcsall e r,ye s , it  was using process Ex i t ed  instead  of pr o ce ss E nded
<ji mb ake r> i t hinkthes av e_loggin g etcs tu ff  was ma sk ing th is 
<j imb aker> bcsa ller,so it ma y beh elpful for you r  work, basedo nw h at hazm atwas sayingearl i er t oday <b csa l ler>I'llta k ea  look, thanks
<niem ey er> ki m0: T hat's right..  it's fine t o  do it,it j u st won't be partof th e core for m ulas
<ki m0> a lthoughif the on l y  concern  is  ge tti ngs e cu rity updates, I 'm n ot  sure w hywe can' t j ust  re que st  the form ula auth or  t oad d a  suit a ble upda te  me ch ani sm
<k i m0> li ke fo r dr up al / dru sh "dru s hu p c" w ou ld  upd ate  d rupal -cor e  an d all m odules..man y  mod ul es  are no t even packag ed 
<SpamapS>  h azm at: sh o u ld we ke ep pushing txaws trunki nto the  en sembl e PP A, or bac kpo rt the  on e iric v ersion ?
<ha zm at> S pamap S ,  h mmm ..  i think w e ' reokaywi th t runk fo r the foreseeablef utu re... if we d o m akea fi x t o  t x aws ,w e w a n t the ppa to ca pture that 
< h az mat> and m o stof  what's  happen ed th e re is j ust bug f ixing
<Sp am apS> h azm at: at som e pointwe need t o  make astabl e P PA
<Sp am apS > haz mat: o n cewe ge t past  b eta1 o f one ir ic maybe 
 :)
<koolhead17>_hazmat: yeah_that`s what i wanted_the permission_for_:P
<hazmat> such_formulas_probably won't be_accepted for an_official release of principia.._but they can_be_installed easily from the command line with a different namespace prefix
<kim0> my understanding is,_ofc_you can,_but_it_won't be a blessed formula
<koolhead17>_kim0:  blessed formula :D
<hazmat>_ie ensemble_deploy koolhead17:wordpress 
<koolhead17> hazmat: yes i saw and_checked_that via EC2
<jimbaker>_bcsaller, hazmat - were you able to see if_standardize-log-testing branch was helpful for looping_problems?
<bcsaller> jimbaker: I_haven't_merged_it, you found an_issue with the hook context?
<jimbaker> bcsaller,_yes, it was using processExited instead_of processEnded
<jimbaker> i think the save_logging etc_stuff was masking this
<jimbaker> bcsaller, so_it may be helpful for_your work,_based on what hazmat was_saying earlier today
<bcsaller>_I'll take_a look, thanks
<niemeyer>_kim0: That's right.. it's fine to_do it, it_just won't be part of the_core_formulas
<kim0> although if_the_only_concern is_getting security updates,_I'm_not sure_why_we can't just request the formula_author_to add a suitable update mechanism
<kim0> like_for drupal/drush "drush upc"_would_update drupal-core and all_modules.. many modules are not_even packaged
<SpamapS> hazmat: should we keep_pushing txaws_trunk into_the ensemble PPA, or backport the oneiric version?
<hazmat> SpamapS, hmmm.. i_think we're okay with trunk for_the foreseeable future... if_we do_make_a fix to_txaws,_we want_the ppa to capture that
<hazmat> and most_of what's_happened there is just bug fixing
<SpamapS>_hazmat: at some point_we_need to make a stable PPA
<SpamapS>_hazmat: once we get past beta1_of oneiric maybe