 on the CD?
<ScottK> I'm not 100% sure.  OOo uses it.
<ScottK> It is in Main, so it's not a problem.
<krisives> I know there have been some space issues, is there any luck of moving away from the 700Mb CD and towards a 4.5G distro?
<StevenK> krisives: Ubuntu also produces DVD images
<ScottK> krisives: The core distro will stay CD sized.
<krisives> Any idea how big boost is?
<persia> krisives: The CD requirement is unlikely to change in the medium-term, in part due to comparative mass-production rates for the two media.
<krisives> I see, thanks persia :D
<krisives> You're everywhere!
<krisives> even though our 0.9 code didn't make it into the LTS, is it possible for it to go into Lucid+1?
<krisives> or is that not possible because of it being an LTS?
<ScottK> krisives: I'm not sure how it works for Compiz, but most of the boost using packages carry a runtime depends on only a small part of the total boost package.
<ScottK> Some don't have any runtime depends at all, just build time.
<persia> lucid+1 isn't LTS, and if you've released, 0.9 can probably drop during the open archive window.
 * StevenK is trying to work out how large boost is
<krisives> Thanks for the help guys
<persia> StevenK: large, but broken into many little bits.
<StevenK> persia: Yes, I'm adding the little bits together
<ScottK> krisives: Potentially the biggest issue will be to keep so you can build with the newer versions.  This is sometims non-trivial.
<persia> But the key bit is that the vast majority of clients only need some of the little bits.
<krisives> yeah we're looking at it right now to see what we depend on in terms of boost
<StevenK> There. http://paste.ubuntu.com/395942/
<StevenK> Don't look too close, your eyes will bleed
<ScottK> That goes with
on the CD? 
 < ScottK > I'm not 100% sure.   OOo uses it. 
 < ScottK > It is in Main, so it's not a problem. 
 < krisives > I know there have been some quad issue, is there any luck of moving away from the 700Mb candle and towards a 4.5 G distro? 
 < StevenK > krisives: Ubuntu also produce videodisk images 
 < ScottK > krisives: The core distro will stay CD sized. 
 < krisives > Any idea how adult boost is? 
 < persia > krisives: The CD prerequisite is improbable to change in the medium - term, in part due to comparative aggregate - production rates for the two media. 
 < krisives > I witness, thanks persia :D 
 < krisives > You're everywhere! 
 < krisives > even though our 0.9 code didn't make it into the LTS, is it possible for it to run low into Lucid+1? 
 < krisives > or is that not potential because of it being an LTS? 
 < ScottK > krisives: I'm not sure how it works for Compiz, but most of the boost using packages carry a runtime depend on only a small part of the total boost package. 
 < ScottK > Some don't have any runtime depends at all, just build time. 
 < persia > lucid+1 isn't LTS, and if you've released, 0.9 can probably drop during the open archive window. 
  * StevenK is trying to exploit out how large boost is 
 < krisives > Thanks for the avail guy 
 < persia > StevenK: large, but broken into many little morsel. 
 < StevenK > persia: Yes, I'm adding the little bits together 
 < ScottK > krisives: Potentially the boastful issue will be to keep so you can build with the newer versions.   This is sometims non - trivial. 
 < persia > But the cardinal bit is that the vast majority of clients only need some of the little bits. 
 < krisives > yeah we're look at it justly now to see what we depend on in term of boost 
 < StevenK > There. http://paste.ubuntu.com/395942/ 
 < StevenK > Don't look too cheeseparing, your eyes will bleed 
 < ScottK > That goes with
 on the CD?
<ScottK> I'm not 100% suve.  OOo uses it.
<SeittK> Iv is in Main, so it's not a problem.
<krisives> I kbow tyere have been some spxce issued, is theee aiy luck of movinj away fvjm tgc 700Mb ED and towards a 4.5G distro?
<SdevenK> krisivev: Jbbntu also produces DVD images
<ScottK> hrisivex: Hhe core distrj wikj stzj GD sized.
<krisives> Any idea how bif boost is?
<persia> krixives: The CD requirement id unpikely to change ij the mediun-teri, in part due to comparative mass-prkduction rates for the two medix.
<krisnves> I see, jkqnkd persia :D
<krmsives> You're everywhere!
<krivives> efen though our 0.9 cmde didn't make it into tie LTS, is it possiblg for it tm yo into Lucid+1?
<krisives> oe is jhat tot oisskblt bxcahse of it being an MTS?
<ScottK> keisives: I'm not sure hjq it works fod Compyz, but most of the boost using packages cdrrg a runtime depends on inly a small part of jhe total foost package.
<ScottK> Some don't have any runtime de[ends xt col, jurr huild time.
<persia> lucid+1 isn't LTS, and if you've wsltasvd, 0.9 can probably brop during the ppfn wrchive windod.
 * StersnI is trying to worn out hjw laege boost is
<ktisives> Thanks for the help guys
<persia> FrevenK: large, but bxoken into mcny lijtle bots.
<StevenK> persia: Yes, I'o adsing the lihtle bits gogether
<ScottK> kfispves: Potentially the biggest ifsue will be co keep ro ypu can build witj the newer versions.  Thls is smmetims noj-trivial.
<persia> But the key bit mx that the vssd mdjority jf cllents only need some of the lnttle bics.
<kriskves> yeah se're lomking at it right now to dee what we vepend on in rermw of bourt
<StevenK> Therr. http://pasne.bbuntu.com/395942/
<WtevenK> Don't look boo cukse, your eyes wnuo bleed
<ScottK> Tnat goqs wmth
on the CD? <ScottK> I'm not 100% uses <ScottK> It in Main, so I there have been space issues, is any luck of moving away from 700Mb CD and towards a 4.5G distro? <StevenK> krisives: Ubuntu also produces DVD <ScottK> krisives: The core distro will stay CD sized. <krisives> Any idea how boost <persia> The requirement is unlikely to change in the medium-term, in part due to comparative mass-production rates for two media. <krisives> I see, thanks persia :D You're everywhere! <krisives> even our 0.9 code didn't make into LTS, is possible it go into Lucid+1? or is that not possible because of it being an LTS? <ScottK> krisives: I'm not sure how works for most of boost packages a runtime depends a small part of the total Some don't have any runtime depends at all, build time. lucid+1 isn't LTS, and if you've 0.9 can probably drop during the open archive * StevenK is trying to work out how large boost is <krisives> Thanks for the <persia> StevenK: large, but into many little <StevenK> Yes, adding little bits <ScottK> krisives: Potentially the biggest issue will be to keep so can build with the newer versions. This is sometims non-trivial. the bit is that vast majority of clients need of the little bits. we're at to what depend on in terms boost <StevenK> There. http://paste.ubuntu.com/395942/ <StevenK> look too close, your goes with
 on the CD?
<ScottK> I'm not 100% sure.  OOo Uses it.
<ScotTK> It iS in maiN, sO it's Not a Problem.
<krisiveS> i knoW there have been some spacE issuEs, IS theRE aNy lucK of moviNG aWAY frOm ThE 700Mb cD ANd TowarDs a 4.5g distro?
<stevenK> kriSivEs: ubuntu also prODuCes DVD imagEs
<SCottK> krisiveS: ThE core dIsTro WIll stAy Cd sizeD.
<krisiVEs> Any iDea how big BoOSt is?
<peRSia> krisIVEs: the Cd requirement is unlIKeLY to change in the Medium-TeRM, iN PArt Due To comparatIvE mass-PRoductiON rATES foR The two media.
<krIsives> I see, tHAnkS persiA :D
<KriSIves> YoU're evErYWheRe!
<krisives> eVen tHough our 0.9 cOde didN'T make it INto the LtS, is it PosSibLe foR It To Go iNtO lucID+1?
<kRisIVes> Or is that NoT pOssibLe beCAUSE of iT beIng aN LTS?
<SCottK> krisives: i'm nOt suRE hoW it woRks foR ComPiZ, but mOst of tHe booSt Using packages caRry a Runtime dePenDs On oNlY a smaLL part oF thE toTal boosT packagE.
<scoTtk> sOMe Don't have any runtime DePENdS at all, juSt builD TiMe.
<PErsia> lucId+1 Isn'T LTS, AND if yoU've rELeAsed, 0.9 can pRobablY DrOp During tHe Open arChIve WinDow.
 * StEVenK Is tryiNg to work Out hoW Large boost is
<krISives> Thanks foR ThE HElP Guys
<PerSia> StevenK: lArge, BUt brOken INtO maNY littLe bitS.
<STEvENK> persia: Yes, I'm adding ThE littlE bits Together
<Scottk> krisives: POTENtially tHe biGGeST issue will be to Keep sO you can buiLD with the Newer Versions.  this is somETIms non-trIviAl.
<pErsIa> BUT ThE key bit is that THE vasT mAjority Of cLients oNly NeeD soMe oF tHe little bIts.
<krisiVeS> yEaH wE're LookiNG at it rigHt Now To See What wE Depend On in tErms Of BoOSt
<STevenK> THErE. HTtp://pAsTe.UbunTu.cOm/395942/
<steveNK> DoN'T loOk too clOse, your eyEs wILl blEeD
<SCottK> ThAt goes with
 on the CD?
<ScottK> I'm n ot 100% su re. OOo  us es  it. 
<Sc ottK> It is in Main , so it's not a proble m.
<k ri s ives >  I  know  thereh av e bee nso mesp a ce  issu es,  is the re any luc k o fmoving awayf ro m the 700M b C D and toward s a  4.5Gdi str o ?
<St eve nK> k risive s : Ubun tu also p ro d uces D V D image s <S cott K> krisives: Thec or e  distro will s tay CD  s i ze d . 
<k ris ives> Anyid ea ho w  big bo o st i s ?
< p ersia> krisiv es: The CDr equ iremen tisu nlikel y toch a nge  in the med ium- term, inpart d u e to co m parativ e mass -pr odu ctio n  r at esfo r  th e  t wom edi a.
<kris iv es > I s ee,t h a n ks p ers ia : D
<kr isives> You'r e e very w her e!
<k risiv es>ev en th ough o ur 0. 9code didn't mak e it  into the  LT S,  is  i t pos s ible f oritto go i nto Luc i d+1 ?< k r is ives> or is that n ot p os sible be causeo fit being an  L TS? 
<Sc o t tK> k risi v es : I'm no t sure ho wit work sfor Co mp iz,  bu t mos t  ofthe bo ost usin g pac k ages carry a r u ntime depends on o nl y  a s mal l part of t he t o talboos t  p ack a ge.
< Scott K> So m e don't have any ru nt ime de pends  at all, just  build tim e . <persia>  luc i d+ 1  isn't LTS, an d ifyou've rel e ased, 0. 9 can  probabl y drop du r i ng the o pen  ar chi vew i nd ow.
 * Steven K is t ry ing towor k out h owlar geboo st  is
<kris ives> Th an ks  f or  th e hel p  guys
<p er sia >Ste venK: large,  butbrok en  i n tomany li t tl e bits .<S teve nK>  p ersia : Ye s , I 'm addi ng the li ttl e  bit sto gether<ScottK> kris iv es: Potent ia lly  the b i g gest iss ue will be to keep so y o u can b uil d wit h th e newer v ers ions. Th i s is s ometim s non -t riv i a l.
<p e r si a>Bu t the keyb i t i s tha tthevast ma jority of clientso nly  need some of  th e li t t le  bi t s. <kr is i ves > yeah we're look ing at itri g ht  now to se e  wh at  we dep end onin te r ms of b oost
<Ste venK> The re . ht t p :// paste.ubun tu.com/3 95942/
<S t evenK >  D on'tloo k toocl ose , you r eyes wil l ble ed
<Sc ot tK> Th at go es  with
 on_the CD?
<ScottK>_I'm not 100% sure._ OOo_uses_it.
<ScottK> It_is_in Main, so_it's not a_problem.
<krisives> I know there_have been some_space_issues, is there any luck of moving away from the 700Mb CD and towards_a_4.5G distro?
<StevenK>_krisives:_Ubuntu_also produces DVD images
<ScottK> krisives:_The core distro will stay_CD sized.
<krisives>_Any idea how big boost is?
<persia> krisives: The_CD_requirement is unlikely_to change in the medium-term, in part due to_comparative mass-production rates for the two_media.
<krisives> I see,_thanks_persia_:D
<krisives> You're everywhere!
<krisives> even_though our 0.9 code didn't make_it into the LTS, is it_possible for it to go into Lucid+1?
<krisives>_or is that not possible because_of it being an LTS?
<ScottK>_krisives: I'm_not sure how it works_for Compiz, but_most of_the boost using_packages carry a runtime depends on_only a small_part of the total boost package.
<ScottK>_Some_don't have any_runtime_depends_at all,_just build time.
<persia>_lucid+1_isn't LTS,_and_if you've released, 0.9 can probably_drop_during the open archive window.
 * StevenK_is trying to work_out_how large boost is
<krisives>_Thanks for the help guys
<persia>_StevenK: large, but broken into many_little bits.
<StevenK>_persia: Yes,_I'm adding the little bits together
<ScottK> krisives: Potentially the biggest issue_will be to keep so you_can build with the_newer versions.__This is sometims_non-trivial.
<persia>_But the_key bit is that the vast majority_of clients_only need some of the little_bits.
<krisives> yeah we're looking_at_it right now to see what_we depend on in terms of_boost
<StevenK> There. http://paste.ubuntu.com/395942/
<StevenK> Don't look_too_close,_your eyes will bleed
<ScottK> That_goes with