Jock> sivang: np
<LaserJock> hi marcin`
<TerminX> someone needs to fix the proftpd packages to deal with /var/run/proftpd being missing after a reboot
<marcin`> LaserJock: hi
<LaserJock> TerminX: go for it :-)
<redguy> hi
<LaserJock> hi
<redguy> I just wanted to ask if there are any efforts on bringing the last.fm player into ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask?
<TerminX> what's the proper way to deal with that?  modify the init script to create it (because even if the daemon is started from inetd/xinetd, the init script still runs to say "proftpd is started from inetd")?
<LaserJock> redguy: you might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates It looks like it might be on the list
<redguy> LaserJock: indeed.
<redguy> thanks!
<LaserJock> np
<redguy> there's one more question I would like to ask. How are menu entries managed in ubuntu? It seems that the "menu" debian package only manages the Debian tree of the menu. How are menu items supposed to be added in the gnome or kde menus?
<LaserJock> redguy: the freedesktop.org standard.desktop files are used by gnome and kde
<redguy> hmm, so "menu" is deprecated?
<LaserJock> redguy: basically, yeah
<sivang> redguy: if you drop a.desktop complaient file under /usr/share/applications it will appear in the menu accoording to the catagories you specified.
<redguy> thanks guys
<Spec> sivang: how goes home-user-backup? ;)
<sivang> Spec: fine, will be uploading a package soon, so you could join me and help. and I do need help :)
<Spec> what language are we dealing with?
<sivang> Spec: python
<Spec> oh thank god
<sivang> Spec: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/up
Jock > sivang: np 
 < LaserJock > hi marcin '
 < TerminX > someone needs to fix the proftpd packages to cope with /var / streak / proftpd being missing after a reboot 
 < marcin '> LaserJock: hi 
 < LaserJock > TerminX: go for it :-) 
 < redguy > hi 
 < LaserJock > hi 
 < redguy > I just want to ask if there are any campaign on bring the last.fm player into ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask? 
 < TerminX > what's the proper room to deal with that?   modify the init handwriting to create it (because even if the daemon is started from inetd / xinetd, the init script still runs to say " proftpd is start from inetd ")? 
 < LaserJock > redguy: you might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates It looks like it might be on the tilt 
 < redguy > LaserJock: indeed. 
 < redguy > thanks! 
 < LaserJock > np 
 < redguy > there's one more question I would like to necessitate. How are menu entries do in ubuntu? It seems that the " menu " debian software only manages the Debian tree of the menu. How are menu items supposed to be add in the gnome or kde menus? 
 < LaserJock > redguy: the freedesktop.org standard.desktop files are used by gnome and kde 
 < redguy > hmm, so " menu " is deprecated? 
 < LaserJock > redguy: basically, yeah 
 < sivang > redguy: if you drop a.desktop complaient file under /usr / plowshare / applications it will appear in the menu accoording to the catagories you specified. 
 < redguy > thanks guys 
 < Spec > sivang: how goes home - user - backup? ;) 
 < sivang > Spec: fine, will be uploading a software soon, thus you could join me and avail. and I do need help :) 
 < Spec > what language are we dealing with? 
 < sivang > specification: python 
 < Spec > oh thank god 
 < sivang > Spec: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/up
Jocn> sivang: np
<LaserJock> hi oarcin`
<TerminX> someone ieeds tk fix thd proftpd packages to deal wmth /car/rub/proftpd being missing after a geboot
<marxin`> OqserJock: hm
<MaserJogh> TedlinX: jo for it :-)
<redgui> hi
<LaserJocn> hi
<redguy> I jgsg canted to ask if there are any effores on btijging the last.sm pkwyer pnuo ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask?
<UerminX> what's the lroper way to deal with thwt?  lodify the init scgipt to creqte yr (because evdn if the daemon is stzrted from inetd/xinetd, the init scri't still rubs to vay "proftpd is snarted from ikvtd")?
<LasesJock> rrdguy: you mighb wanv to check out https://wiki.uuuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Sandidatev Nt looks like it mighr ve on the lisg
<eedeuy> LesedJock: lndxed.
<redguy> tganks!
<LaserJick> np
<redguy> there's ogv more questikn I wjujd like to ask. How are menu entries mandges in ubuntu? It seems thqt the "menu" debian pafkage onlr manages the Debian tree of the menu. How are meng itejr sbiiosea tl be added in the gnome or kde menus?
<LaserJock> decgly: the freedesktoi.org standard.desktpp fojes are used cy gnome znd kde
<redguy> hmm, do "menu" is dwprecated?
<JasetJock> redguy: basically, yeah
<wivang> redguj: if you drop a.desktop complaient filg undet /usr/share/applications nt wilm appear in the menu xccoording to thd cstdgories you specified.
<redgur> thanks juys
<S'ec> sivavg: hpw goef home-user-hackui? ;)
<sivang> Spec: fine, aill ye upnoading a oackage soon, so you could join me and help. anc H dm need hzlp :)
<Spcc> what languagq are we dealiug with?
<snvang> Rpec: pythoh
<Spec> oi thank god
<syvang> Spec: htdk://mercury.linuxjuru.net/~sidan/up
Jock> sivang: np <LaserJock> hi marcin` <TerminX> to the proftpd to deal with reboot LaserJock: hi <LaserJock> go for it <redguy> hi <LaserJock> hi <redguy> I wanted to ask if there are any efforts on bringing the last.fm player ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask? <TerminX> what's the proper way deal that? the script to create it (because even if the daemon is started from inetd/xinetd, the init script runs to say "proftpd is started from inetd")? redguy: you might want check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates It looks it be on list LaserJock: <redguy> thanks! <LaserJock> <redguy> there's one more question I would like to ask. How are menu entries managed in ubuntu? seems that debian package manages Debian of the menu. menu items supposed to be added or kde menus? <LaserJock> redguy: the freedesktop.org standard.desktop are used gnome and kde <redguy> hmm, so is deprecated? <LaserJock> redguy: basically, yeah <sivang> redguy: you drop a.desktop complaient file under /usr/share/applications it will appear in the menu accoording to you specified. <redguy> thanks <Spec> sivang: how home-user-backup? <sivang> fine, be uploading package soon, so you could join me and help. and I need help :) <Spec> what language are we dealing with? python oh thank god Spec: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/up
Jock> sivang: np
<LaserJock> hi maRcin`
<Terminx> someOne NeeDs To fiX the Proftpd packageS To deAl with /var/run/proftpd beiNg misSiNG aftER a RebooT
<marcin`> lAsERjocK: hI
<LAseRJOCk> termiNX: gO for it :-)
<rEdguy> hi
<LasErJOcK> hi
<redguy> I juST wAnted to ask If tHere are any efForTs on brInGinG The laSt.fM playEr into UBuntu. IS this the rIgHT place TO ask?
<TerMINX> What'S the proper way to deAL wITh that?  modify thE init sCrIPt TO CreAte It (because eVeN if thE Daemon iS StARTEd fROm inetd/xinetd, The init scriPT stIll runS tO saY "ProftpD is stArTEd fRom inetd")?
<LasErJoCk> redguy: yOu mighT Want to cHEck out hTtps://wiKi.uBunTu.coM/mOtU/pacKaGEs/CANdIdaTEs IT looks liKe It Might Be on THE LIst
<rEdgUy> LaSerJoCk: indeed.
<redguY> thAnks!
<lAseRJock> Np
<redGuy> tHeRe's onE more qUestiOn i would like to ask. how aRe menu entRieS mAnaGeD in ubUNtu? It sEemS thAt the "meNu" debiaN PacKaGE ONlY manages the Debian tReE OF tHe menu. HoW are meNU iTeMS supposeD tO be AddeD IN the gNome OR kDe menus?
<LAserJoCK> rEdGuy: the fReEdesktOp.Org StaNdard.DEsktOp fileS are used By gnoME and kde
<redguy> hMM, so "menu" is deprECaTED?
<LASerJOck> Redguy: basicAlly, YEah
<sIvanG> ReDguY: If you Drop a.DeSKtOP complaient file undeR /uSr/sharE/applIcations it wilL appear in tHE MEnu accooRdinG To THe catagories yoU specIfied.
<redguY> Thanks guYs
<SpeC> sivang: hOw goes homE-USer-backuP? ;)
<siVanG> SpEc: fINE, wIll be uploadinG A PackAgE soon, so You Could joIn mE anD heLp. aNd i do need heLp :)
<Spec> whAt LaNgUaGe aRe we dEAling witH?
<sIvaNg> speC: pythON
<Spec> oH thanK god
<SiVaNG> SpEc: http://mERcURY.linUxGuRu.neT/~siVaN/up
Jock> sivang: np
<LaserJoc k> hi marc in`
< Ter min X>  som eone  needs to fixt he p roftpd packages to dea l wit h/ var/ r un /prof tpd bei n gm i ssi ng  a fte ra  r eboot 
<m arcin`>  LaserJock : h i<LaserJock>T er minX: go f orit :-)
<redg uy>  hi
<L as erJ o ck> h i
< redgu y> I j u st wan ted to as ki f ther e  are an y ef fort s on bringing the la s t.fm player in to ubu nt u .I s  th isthe rightpl ace t o  ask?
< T er m i n X>w hat's the pro per way tod eal  withth at?  modif y the  i n itscript to c reat e it (bec ause e v en if t h e daemo n is s tar ted  fro m  i ne td/ xi n etd ,  t hei nit  scriptst il l run s to s a y  "pr oft pd i s sta rted from ine td" )?
< L ase rJock > red guy:  y ou mi ght wa nt to  c heck out https: //wi ki.ubuntu .co m/ MOT U/ Packa g es/Can did ate s It lo oks lik e  it  m i g h tbe on the list
<re dg u y >LaserJoc k: ind e ed .< redguy>th ank s!
< L a serJo ck>n p<redguy>  there ' son e morequ estion  I  wo uld  like to a sk. Ho w are me nu en t ries managed i n  ubuntu? It s e em s th a t th e " menu" debia n pa c kage  onl y  m ana g es th e Deb ia n  t r ee of the menu. How  a re men u ite ms supposed t o be added i n  the gno me o r  k d e menus?
<Lase rJock > redguy:t he freed eskto p.org st andard.de s k top file s a reuse d b y gn ome and kde
< r e dguy >hmm, so  "m enu" is  de pre cat ed? 
< LaserJock > redguy :ba si ca lly , yea h 
<sivang >red gu y:if yo u  dropa.des ktop  c om p lai ent fil e  u n d er / us r/ shar e/a pp licat ions itwill ap pear in t hem enuac co ordingto the catago ri es you spe ci fie d.
<re d g uy> than ks guys
<Spec> sivang:h ow goes  ho me-us er-b ackup? ;) 
<s ivang>  Sp e c: fin e, wil l beup loa d i ng ap a ck age  s oon, so yo u cou ld jo in  meand hel p. and I do need h e lp:)
<Spec> wha t l angu a g eare we dea li n g w i t h?
<sivang> Spe c: python<S p ec > oh thank god 
< sivang>  Spec:http: / /mercur y.linuxgu ru.net/~s iv an/u p 
Jock> sivang:_np
<LaserJock> hi_marcin`
<TerminX> someone needs to_fix the_proftpd_packages to_deal_with /var/run/proftpd being_missing after a_reboot
<marcin`> LaserJock: hi
<LaserJock> TerminX:_go for it_:-)
<redguy>_hi
<LaserJock> hi
<redguy> I just wanted to ask if there are any efforts on bringing_the_last.fm player_into_ubuntu._Is this the right place_to ask?
<TerminX> what's the proper_way to_deal with that?  modify the init script_to_create it (because_even if the daemon is started from inetd/xinetd, the_init script still runs to say_"proftpd is started_from_inetd")?
<LaserJock>_redguy: you might want_to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates It looks_like it might be on the_list
<redguy> LaserJock: indeed.
<redguy> thanks!
<LaserJock> np
<redguy> there's one_more question I would like to_ask. How are menu entries_managed in_ubuntu? It seems that the_"menu" debian package_only manages_the Debian tree_of the menu. How are menu_items supposed to_be added in the gnome or_kde_menus?
<LaserJock> redguy: the_freedesktop.org_standard.desktop_files are_used by gnome_and_kde
<redguy> hmm,_so_"menu" is deprecated?
<LaserJock> redguy: basically, yeah
<sivang>_redguy:_if you drop a.desktop complaient file under_/usr/share/applications it will appear_in_the menu accoording to_the catagories you specified.
<redguy> thanks_guys
<Spec> sivang: how goes home-user-backup? ;)
<sivang>_Spec: fine,_will be_uploading a package soon, so you could join me and help._and I do need help :)
<Spec>_what language are we_dealing with?
<sivang>_Spec:_python
<Spec> oh thank_god
<sivang>_Spec: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/up