: ok will do
<jaldhar> btw, a general question to all: is dapper in a reasonably stable situation right now or should I wait till the release?
<jaldhar> I use kubuntu on my laptop and it's ok for it to be a little bit unstable but I do need to do work with it
<dolson> jaldhar: I'm running Dapper / GNOME and it's fine for me.. YMMV
<dolson> does the Microsoft Shared Source License meet the requirements to be in debian/ubuntu?
<ajmitch> dolson: which one? there are a few licenses
<dolson> the one that Firefox2 might be released under
<ajmitch>'might be'
<ajmitch> more rumours & speculation?
<sistpoty> oh, congrats for membership, dolson ;)
<dolson> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox2/StatusMeetings/2006-03-07#Alpha_1_Status
<dolson> thanks sistpoty :D
<LaserJock> yeah, way to go dolson :-)
<ajmitch> if it's not I'm sure they'll hear about it
<dolson> thanks LaserJock :)
<dolson> I was kinda surprised to see that they'd go with a Microsoft license
<dolson> "might" I mean
<freeflying> jaldhar: it's up to yourself at all, dapper is in development after all
<dolson> I still wonder about point #9 in that license "Microsoft reserves all rights not expressly granted to you in this license."
<ajmitch> dolson: standard license clause
<ajmitch> if it's the license they link to, they're crazy
<dolson> I assume that if they use that license, that they will change it to "Mozilla Foundation" or something other than Microsoft?
<dolson> in which case, is it even the "Microsoft" S. S. L. anymore
<ajmitch> yes, they would
<jaldhar> freeflying: ah what the hell I'll do it this weekend.  Btw, did you see my question to minghua?
<ajmitch> and I really really doubt they'll use this one
<freeflying> jald
: ok will do 
 < jaldhar > btw, a general question to all: is dapper in a reasonably static site right now or should I expect till the release? 
 < jaldhar > I practice kubuntu on my laptop and it's ok for it to be a little morsel mentally ill but I do need to do work with it 
 < dolson > jaldhar: I'm running Dapper / GNOME and it's all right for me.. YMMV 
 < dolson > does the Microsoft Shared Source License meet the requirements to be in debian / ubuntu? 
 < ajmitch > dolson: which one? there are a few licenses 
 < dolson > the one that Firefox2 might be free under 
 < ajmitch>'might be' 
 < ajmitch > more rumours & speculation? 
 < sistpoty > oh, congrats for membership, dolson ;) 
 < dolson > http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox2/StatusMeetings/2006-03-07#Alpha_1_Status 
 < dolson > thanks sistpoty :D 
 < LaserJock > yeah, way to go dolson :-) 
 < ajmitch > if it's not I'm sure they'll learn about it 
 < dolson > thanks LaserJock :) 
 < dolson > I was kinda surprised to see that they'd go with a Microsoft license 
 < dolson > " might " I think of 
 < freeflying > jaldhar: it's up to yourself at all, dapper is in development after wholly 
 < dolson > I still wonder about compass point # 9 in that license " Microsoft reserves all rights not expressly granted to you in this license. " 
 < ajmitch > dolson: standard license article 
 < ajmitch > if it's the license they link to, they're crazy 
 < dolson > I assume that if they use that license, that they will change it to " Mozilla Foundation " or something other than Microsoft? 
 < dolson > in which shell, is it even the " Microsoft " S. S. L. anymore 
 < ajmitch > yes, they would 
 < jaldhar > freeflying: ah what the hell I'll do it this weekend.   Btw, did you see my question to minghua? 
 < ajmitch > and I really really doubt they'll use this one 
 < freeflying > jald
: ok will do
<jaldhar> btw, a gekeral question to all: iv dappsr in a feasonably stable situation cighr now or should I wait till the relewse?
<jaldhqr> I yse kubuntn on my laptop wnd nt'w ok for it to be a littne bit unstabla cuc I do need to do work with it
<dolson> jaldhat: L'm running Dapker / BGOME and it's fine for me.. YMMV
<dolson> doss the Kicrosoft Shated Source License meet thf reeuirements to be ij debian/ububtu?
<atnitch> dolson: which one? there are a few licenses
<dolson> the one thag Firzfox2 might ve repgased under
<aomitch>'iight be'
<ajmibbh> more rumourx & speculation?
<xisvpott> oh, congrats for memuership, dolson ;)
<dolsog> http://wikh.mkzilla.org/Firefox2/SrarusMegtingv/2006-03-07#Alpfq_1_Stxtua
<dplaon> thwnka sistpoty :D
<LaserJock> yeah, way to go dolxog :-)
<ajmitch> if if's not I'i sure they'll hear about it
<dolson> thankv LzserJock :)
<dolson> I was kunda surprised to see that ther'd go with a Microsoft license
<dolson> "might" I mean
<xreefmhiny> jaldfqr: it's up to yourself at all, dapper is in develjlmtnt after all
<dolsjn> I still eojdrt about point #9 in thcf micense "Microsoft geservef all rights njt ecpressly granted to you in rhis license."
<cjmutch> dolson: standaxd license cuausg
<ajmitvh> if it's the license tkey lihk to, they'rf crazy
<domron> I assume thag in tvey use ufat license, that ehey will chauge it tu "Moeilla Fjundation" lr something other than Licrodoxt?
<dolson> ij which case, is it even the "Miccpsoft" S. S. L. snfmoge
<ajmitch> yes, bhey would
<jaldhwr> freeflying: ch what che heul I'll do pt this wxekend.  Btw, qid you see mf question to minghua?
<wjmirch> qnd I rdxlly really doibt they'll use this one
<freeflying> jalv
: ok will do <jaldhar> btw, a to is dapper a reasonably stable I till the release? I use kubuntu my laptop and it's ok for to be a little bit unstable but I do need to do work it <dolson> jaldhar: I'm running Dapper / GNOME and it's fine for me.. <dolson> the Shared License meet the requirements to be in debian/ubuntu? <ajmitch> dolson: which one? there are a few <dolson> the one that Firefox2 might be released <ajmitch>'might be' <ajmitch> more & speculation? <sistpoty> oh, congrats membership, ;) <dolson> <dolson> sistpoty <LaserJock> yeah, way go dolson :-) <ajmitch> if it's not I'm sure they'll hear about it <dolson> thanks LaserJock :) I was to see they'd with Microsoft license <dolson> mean <freeflying> jaldhar: it's up to dapper is in development after all <dolson> I wonder about #9 in that license "Microsoft reserves rights not expressly granted to you in this <ajmitch> dolson: standard license clause <ajmitch> if it's the license they link to, they're crazy assume that if they that license, that will it "Mozilla or something than Microsoft? <dolson> in which case, is it even the "Microsoft" S. L. anymore <ajmitch> yes, they would <jaldhar> freeflying: ah hell do it this Btw, did you see question minghua? <ajmitch> and I doubt use jald
: ok will do
<jaldhar> btw, a generaL question tO all: iS daPpeR iN a reAsonAbly stable situATion Right now or should I wait tIll thE rELeasE?
<JaLdhar> i use kubUNtU ON my LaPtOp aNd IT's Ok for It tO be a litTle bit unstAblE bUt I do need to dO WoRk with it
<doLsoN> jaldhar: I'm ruNniNg DappEr / gNOme and iT's fIne foR me.. YMMv
<Dolson> Does the MiCrOSoft ShARed SourCE liCensE meet the requiremeNTs TO be in debian/ubuNtu?
<ajmItCH> dOLSon: WhiCh one? there ArE a few LIcenses
<DOlSON> The ONe that Firefox2 Might be releASed Under
<aJmItcH>'Might bE'
<ajmiTcH> MorE rumours & speCulaTion?
<sistpOty> oh, cONgrats fOR memberShip, doLsoN ;)
<doLson> HTtP://wIki.MoZIllA.OrG/FiREfoX2/StatusMEeTiNgs/2006-03-07#AlPha_1_STATUS
<dolSon> ThanKs sisTpoty :D
<LaserJoCk> yEah, wAY to Go dolSon :-)
<ajMitcH> iF it's nOt I'm suRe theY'lL hear about it
<dolSon> tHanks LaseRJoCk :)
<DolSoN> I was KInda suRprIseD to see tHat they'D Go wItH A mIcRosoft license
<dolsoN> "mIGHt" i mean
<freEflyinG> JaLdHAr: it's up tO yOurSelf AT All, daPper IS iN developMent afTEr AlL
<dolson> i sTill woNdEr aBouT poinT #9 In thAt liceNse "MicroSoft rEServes all rightS Not expressly gRAnTED tO You iN thIs license."
<ajMitcH> DolsOn: stANdArd LIcensE clauSe
<AJmITch> if it's the license tHeY link tO, they'Re crazy
<dolson> i assume thaT IF They use tHat lICeNSe, that they will ChangE it to "MozilLA FoundatIon" or SomethinG other thaN mIcrosoft?
<DolSon> In wHicH CAsE, is it even the "MICRosoFt" s. S. L. anymOre
<Ajmitch> Yes, TheY woUld
<JaLdhar> freeFlying: ah WhAt ThE hEll i'll do IT this weeKeNd.  BTw, Did You seE My quesTion tO minGhUa?
<AJmiTch> and I REaLLY reaLlY dOubt TheY'lL use tHis oNE
<frEeflyinG> jald
: ok will do
<jaldhar> btw , a genera l que sti onto  all : is  dapper in a r e ason ably stable situationright  n o w or sh ouldI waitt il l the  r el eas e? <j aldha r>I use k ubuntu onmyla ptop and it' s  o k for it t o b e a little b itunstab le  bu t  I do  ne ed to  do wo r k with  it
<dols on >  jaldh a r: I'mr u nn ingDapper / GNOME an d  i t 's fine for me .. YMM V< do l s on>  do es the Mic ro softS hared S o ur c e Lic e nse meet therequirement s  to  be in  d ebi a n/ubun tu?
< aj m itc h> dolson:whic h one? th ere ar e  a fewl icenses 
<dols on>  th e on e  t ha t F ir e fox 2  m igh t  be  release dun der
< ajmi t c h > 'mig htbe'<ajmi tch> more rum our s &s pec ulati on?
< sist po ty> o h, con grats  f or membership,dols on ;)
<do lso n>  ht tp ://wi k i.mozi lla .or g/Firef ox2/Sta t usM ee t i n gs /2006-03-07#Alpha_ 1_ S t at us
<dols on> th a nk ss istpoty:D 
<L aser J o ck> y eah, wa y to godolson :- )<ajmitc h>  if it 's  no t I 'm su r e th ey'llhear abo ut it <dolson> thank s  LaserJock :) <d o l so n > Iwas  kinda surp rise d  toseet ha t t h ey'dgo wi th aM icrosoft license
<d ol son> " might " I mean
<fre eflying> j a l d har: it' s up to yourself at al l, da pper is in developm ent a fter all 
<dolson> I  still w ond erabo utp o in t #9 in thatl i cens e"Micros oft  reserv esall  ri ght snot expre ssly gra nt ed  t oyou  in t h is licen se ."<a jmi tch>d olson:  stan dard  l ic e nse  clause <a j m itch >if  it' s t he  lice nset hey  link t o, they'r e c r azy<d ol son> Iassume that i fthey use t ha t l icense , that the y will change it to "Mo z illa Fo und ation " or  somethin g o ther t han Micros oft?
< dolso n>  in w hichc a se , i sit even th e "Mi croso ft " S.  S. L.anymore
<ajmitch>y es,  they would
< jal dhar > fr eef l yi n g:ah wha t the hell I'll d o it thiswe e ke nd.  Btw,d idyo u see m y quest ion t o  minghu a?
<ajmit ch> and I  r eall y rea lly doubtthey'lluse thiso ne
<f r ee flyin g>jald
: ok_will do
<jaldhar>_btw, a general question_to all:_is_dapper in_a_reasonably stable situation_right now or_should I wait till_the release?
<jaldhar> I_use_kubuntu on my laptop and it's ok for it to be a little bit_unstable_but I_do_need_to do work with it
<dolson>_jaldhar: I'm running Dapper /_GNOME and_it's fine for me.. YMMV
<dolson> does the Microsoft_Shared_Source License meet_the requirements to be in debian/ubuntu?
<ajmitch> dolson: which one?_there are a few licenses
<dolson> the_one that Firefox2_might_be_released under
<ajmitch>'might be'
<ajmitch> more_rumours & speculation?
<sistpoty> oh, congrats for_membership, dolson ;)
<dolson> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox2/StatusMeetings/2006-03-07#Alpha_1_Status
<dolson> thanks sistpoty_:D
<LaserJock> yeah, way to go dolson :-)
<ajmitch>_if it's not I'm sure they'll_hear about it
<dolson> thanks LaserJock_:)
<dolson> I_was kinda surprised to see_that they'd go_with a_Microsoft license
<dolson> "might"_I mean
<freeflying> jaldhar: it's up to_yourself at all,_dapper is in development after all
<dolson>_I_still wonder about_point_#9_in that_license "Microsoft reserves_all_rights not_expressly_granted to you in this license."
<ajmitch>_dolson:_standard license clause
<ajmitch> if it's the license_they link to, they're_crazy
<dolson>_I assume that if_they use that license, that_they will change it to "Mozilla_Foundation" or_something other_than Microsoft?
<dolson> in which case, is it even the "Microsoft" S._S. L. anymore
<ajmitch> yes, they would
<jaldhar>_freeflying: ah what the_hell I'll_do_it this weekend.__Btw, did_you see my question to minghua?
<ajmitch> and_I really_really doubt they'll use this one
<freeflying>_jald