 that the way I said too.
<LaserJock> whereas we already know how hard it is to deal with 1000's of upstreams
<LaserJock> with different websites, bug trackers, etc.
<tonyyarusso> If all of the LPs can talk to each other, it's the same as being one.
<LaserJock> yes
<LaserJock> but they don't have that yet
<LaserJock> so that's part of what Mark's talking about
<RAOF> Which is a technical reason :)
<LaserJock> the API needs to get finished
<tonyyarusso> Then that's what they should have been working on this whole time.
<LaserJock> they have been
<tonyyarusso> I don't believe that it.  They added support for other trackers in that time, but not their own?
<LaserJock> no
<LaserJock> they don't have full support
<LaserJock> vcs imports have to be done by hand
<tonyyarusso> Could have gotten the work done faster with more input anyway, so it would have been easier to accomplish by starting open right off the bat.
<LaserJock> they are working around stuff trying to provide services for us
<RAOF> tonyyarusso: But LP needs to be reasonably code- and nearly totally design-stable before you can open it without introducing incompatibilities later.
<LaserJock> but tracking another LP with translations, bugs, branches, blueprints, answers, etc. is a *much* bigger task
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso: i suppose the idea is that they will make a service akin to git -- distributed bug tracking that can push bug reports around multiple trackers
<Fujitsu> Translations in particular would be near impossible.
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: So have people review additions and offer direction.
<kitterma> Gotta run (getting on a plane)
<tonyyarusso> pwnguin: precisely.
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso: automatically. which isnt done anywhere yet ;0
<tonyyarusso> meh, like I said, this is a priority for me, so I'm staying at arm
that the way I said too. 
 < LaserJock > whereas we already know how unvoiced it is to cope with 1000's of upstreams 
 < LaserJock > with different websites, bug tracker, etc. 
 < tonyyarusso > If all of the LPs can talk to each other, it's the same as being one. 
 < LaserJock > yes 
 < LaserJock > but they don't hold that yet 
 < LaserJock > so that's part of what Mark's talk about 
 < RAOF > Which is a technical reason :) 
 < LaserJock > the API needs to catch finished 
 < tonyyarusso > Then that's what they should have been work on this whole time. 
 < LaserJock > they have been 
 < tonyyarusso > I don't believe that it.   They added support for other tracker in that time, but not their own? 
 < LaserJock > no 
 < LaserJock > they don't have full accompaniment 
 < LaserJock > vcs imports have to be do by hand 
 < tonyyarusso > Could have catch the work done faster with more input anyway, so it would have been easy to accomplish by starting open right off the bat. 
 < LaserJock > they are exploit around stuff trying to provide services for us 
 < RAOF > tonyyarusso: But LP needs to be reasonably code- and nearly totally design - stable before you can open it without precede incompatibilities later. 
 < LaserJock > but chase another LP with transformation, bugs, branches, blueprints, answers, etc. is a * much * bigger task 
 < pwnguin > tonyyarusso: i suppose the theme is that they will make a service akin to git -- distributed bug tracking that can push microbe reports around multiple trackers 
 < Fujitsu > Translations in particular would be near impossible. 
 < tonyyarusso > RAOF: therefore have citizenry review additions and offer direction. 
 < kitterma > Got ta run (make on a plane) 
 < tonyyarusso > pwnguin: precisely. 
 < pwnguin > tonyyarusso: automatically. which is nt do anywhere yet; 0 
 < tonyyarusso > meh, like I said, this is a priority for me, so I'm stay at arm
 thwt the way I said too.
<LastrJock> whereas we alreadb know gow hard it is to deal with 1000's of upsvreans
<LastgJock> with different debsites, hug tracjers, wtc.
<tonyyarnaso> If all of bhe L's can talk to esch other, ht's the same av cenng one.
<LaserJock> yes
<LaserJock> but thqy don't hwve that yet
<LaferJpsk> sk that's part of what Mark's talking about
<REOF> Which is a yechnical reason :)
<LaserJock> the API needs to get vinished
<tonigartwso> Then thag's what thty should habe been working on this whole tkme.
<LaxerJock> thgv hagg been
<tonyyacusso> P don't believc that ht.  Theu added supporb for otyer trackers in that vime, but not their orn?
<LaserJowk> no
<LaserJock> they din't hdve xull wupooru
<LaxedJock> gcs imports hzve to be dine by hand
<tonyyaruxsj> Could have gktten ehq work done faster with more input anywdy, ao it would have been eqsier to accomplish bi starting open right off the bat.
<LaserJock> they are working arouid stbnn trhunh to provide services for us
<RAOF> tonyyarusso: Fht LI needs to be reafonably codr- wnc nearly totaluy desnfn-atable before you fan opeg it qithout igtrocucing incompatibilities larer.
<LaserJock> vut tracking anothzr LP with txanslajions, nugs, branches, blueprintr, anawers, etc. id a *much* gkgger task
<pwnguiv> tpnfyarusso: i suppose the idew is that thev will mxke s servyce akin tl git -- distributed bug tgackiug thdt can pusj bug reports around multiple tceckers
<Fujitsu> Tsanvlations in psrticular woujd be near imppssible.
<conyyafusso> RAOF: So havx people revyew additions wnd offer dicection.
<kieterna> Gitta ruv (getting on a llane)
<tonyjaxusso> pwntuin: precisely.
<pwngmin> tuhyyarusso: automcuicqlly. which isnt dove wnjwhxre yqd ;0
<tonyyarussm> mef, lkle I raid, this iw a ptiority for me, so I'm staging at arm
that the way I said too. <LaserJock> already how hard is to deal with websites, bug trackers, <tonyyarusso> If all the LPs can talk to each it's the same as being one. <LaserJock> yes <LaserJock> but they don't have yet <LaserJock> so that's part of what Mark's talking about <RAOF> Which is technical :) the needs to get finished <tonyyarusso> Then that's what they should have been working on this whole <LaserJock> they have been <tonyyarusso> I don't believe it. They added support other trackers in that time, not own? <LaserJock> <LaserJock> don't full support <LaserJock> imports have to be done by hand <tonyyarusso> Could have gotten the work done faster with more anyway, so have been to by open right off <LaserJock> they are working around stuff services for us <RAOF> tonyyarusso: But LP needs be reasonably and nearly totally design-stable before you open it without introducing incompatibilities later. <LaserJock> but another LP with translations, bugs, branches, blueprints, answers, etc. is a *much* bigger task <pwnguin> suppose the idea is they will make service to -- bug tracking can push bug reports around multiple trackers <Fujitsu> Translations in particular be near impossible. <tonyyarusso> RAOF: So have people review additions direction. Gotta run (getting a plane) <tonyyarusso> pwnguin: <pwnguin> automatically. which isnt done ;0 meh, this a for me, so I'm at arm
 that the way I said too.
<LaserJoCk> whereas wE alreAdy KnoW hOw haRd it Is to deal with 1000's oF UpstReams
<LaserJock> with diffErent WeBSiteS, BuG tracKers, etc.
<TOnYYAruSsO> IF alL oF ThE LPs cAn tAlk to eaCh other, it's The SaMe as being one.
<lAsErJock> yes
<LAseRJock> but they Don'T have tHaT yeT
<laserjocK> so thAt's parT Of what mark's talkInG About
<RaoF> Which IS A tEchnIcal reason :)
<LaserJoCK> tHE API needs to get FinishEd
<TOnYYAruSso> then that's wHaT they SHould haVE bEEN WorKIng on this wholE time.
<LaserJOCk> tHey havE bEen
<TOnyyarUsso> I DoN'T beLieve that it.  they Added suppOrt for OTher traCKers in tHat timE, buT noT theIR oWn?
<lasErjOck> NO
<LAseRjocK> they don'T hAvE full SuppORT
<lAserjocK> vcs ImporTs have to be donE by Hand
<TOnyYarusSo> CouLd haVe GotteN the woRk donE fAster with more inPut aNyway, so it WouLd HavE bEen eaSIer to aCcoMplIsh by stArting oPEn rIgHT OFf The bat.
<LaserJock> theY aRE WoRking aroUnd stuFF tRyINg to provIdE seRvicES For us
<rAOF> TOnYyarusso: but LP nEEdS tO be reasOnAbly coDe- And NeaRly toTAlly Design-Stable beFore yOU can open it withOUt introducing INcOMPaTIbilItiEs later.
<LaseRJocK> But tRackINg AnoTHer LP With tRaNSlATions, bugs, branches, blUePrints, AnsweRs, etc. is a *much* bIgger task
<pWNGUin> tonyyArusSO: i SUppose the idea iS that They will maKE a servicE akin To git -- disTributed bUG Tracking ThaT caN puSh bUG RePorts around muLTIple TrAckers
<FUjiTsu> TranSlaTioNs iN paRtIcular wouLd be near ImPoSsIbLe.
<tOnyyaRUsso> RAOF: so HavE pEopLe revIEw addiTions And oFfEr DIreCtion.
<kiTTeRMA> GotTa RuN (getTinG oN a plaNe)
<toNYyaRusso> pwNguin: precIseLY.
<pwnGuIn> TonyyarUsso: automaticAlLy. which isnT dOne AnywheRE Yet ;0
<tonyyArusso> meh, like I said, this iS A prioriTy fOr me, sO I'm sTaying at aRm
 that the way I said too.<LaserJock > whe rea s w ealre adyknow how hardi t is  to deal with 1000's o f ups tr e ams< La serJo ck> wit h  d i f fer en tweb si t es , bug  tr ackers,  etc.
<ton yya ru sso> If allo fthe LPs ca n t alk to eachoth er, it 's  th e  same  as  bein g one. <Laser Jock> yes 
< L aserJo c k> butt h ey  don 't have that yet< La s erJock> so tha t's pa rt of w hat  Ma rk's talki ng  abou t 
<RAOF> Wh i c h  is a technical r eason :)
<L a ser Jock>th e A P I need s toge t  fi nished
<ton yyar usso> The n that ' s whatt hey sho uld ha vebee n wo r ki ng  on  t h isw ho let ime .
<Laser Jo ck > the y ha v e b een<to nyya russo > I don't bel iev e th a t i t.  T hey a dded  s uppor t forother  t rackers in that  tim e, but no t t he irow n?
<L a serJoc k>no<LaserJ ock> th e y d on ' t ha ve full support
<L as e r Jo ck> vcsimport s  h av e  to be d on e b y ha n d 
<ton yyar u ss o> Could  haveg ot te n the w or k done  f ast erwithm oreinputanyway,so it would have bee n  easier to ac c om p l is h  bysta rting openrigh t  off  the ba t.< Laser Jock>  t h ey are working aroundst uff tr yingto provide se rvices for u s 
<RAOF>tony y ar u sso: But LP ne eds t o be reaso n ably cod e- an d nearly  totallyd e sign-sta ble  be for e y o u  c an open it wi t h outin troduci ngincompa tib ili tie s l at er.
<Lase rJock> b ut  t ra ck ing  anot h er LP wi th  tr an sla tions ,  bugs,  bran ches ,bl u epr ints, a n sw e r s, e tc .is a  *m uc h* bi gger tas k
<pwng uin> tony yar u sso:  i  s upposethe idea is t ha t they wil lmak e a se r v ice akin  to git -- distributedb ug trac kin g tha t ca n push bu g r eports  ar o und mu ltiple  trac ke rs< F ujits u >  T ran sl ations inp a rti cular  w ould  be nea r impossible.
<ton y yar usso> RAOF: S o h avep e op ler ev i ewad d iti o n s and offer dir ection.
<k it t er ma> Gottar un(g ettingon a pl ane)< tonyyar usso> pwn guin: pre ci sely . <pw nguin> ton yyarusso : automat i cally .  w hichisn t done  a nyw hereyet ;0 <to nyyar usso>me h, lik e I s ai d, thisis a priority for me, s o I'mstayi ngat arm
 that_the way_I said too.
<LaserJock> whereas_we already_know_how hard_it_is to deal_with 1000's of_upstreams
<LaserJock> with different websites,_bug trackers, etc.
<tonyyarusso>_If_all of the LPs can talk to each other, it's the same as being_one.
<LaserJock>_yes
<LaserJock> but_they_don't_have that yet
<LaserJock> so that's_part of what Mark's talking_about
<RAOF> Which_is a technical reason :)
<LaserJock> the API needs_to_get finished
<tonyyarusso> Then_that's what they should have been working on this_whole time.
<LaserJock> they have been
<tonyyarusso> I_don't believe that_it.__They added support for_other trackers in that time, but_not their own?
<LaserJock> no
<LaserJock> they don't_have full support
<LaserJock> vcs imports have to_be done by hand
<tonyyarusso> Could have_gotten the work done faster_with more_input anyway, so it would_have been easier_to accomplish_by starting open_right off the bat.
<LaserJock> they are_working around stuff_trying to provide services for us
<RAOF>_tonyyarusso:_But LP needs_to_be_reasonably code-_and nearly totally_design-stable_before you_can_open it without introducing incompatibilities later.
<LaserJock>_but_tracking another LP with translations, bugs, branches,_blueprints, answers, etc. is_a_*much* bigger task
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso:_i suppose the idea is_that they will make a service_akin to_git --_distributed bug tracking that can push bug reports around multiple trackers
<Fujitsu>_Translations in particular would be near_impossible.
<tonyyarusso> RAOF: So have_people review_additions_and offer direction.
<kitterma>_Gotta_run (getting_on a plane)
<tonyyarusso> pwnguin: precisely.
<pwnguin> tonyyarusso: automatically._which isnt_done anywhere yet ;0
<tonyyarusso> meh, like_I said, this is_a_priority for me, so I'm staying_at arm