Rhonda> syncpackage: Request succeeded; you should get an e-mail once it is processed.
<Rhonda> thanks :)
<Rhonda> hmm, what to do with upstart in a chroot â¦
<psusi> Rhonda: what do you mean?
<Rhonda> I managed to create with pbuilder a chroot for lucid.  Did log into it, installed cowdancer and then extracted the tarball to work with cowdancer
<Laney> I guess you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224/comments/6
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 430224 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init: support chroots" [Medium,Fix released]
<Rhonda> I then copied the lucid cowbuilder chroot to maverick and tried to upgrade, which failed  %-/
<Rhonda> There is no upstart running for me outside the chroot
<Rhonda> â¦ giving it a try.  Thanks for the link. :)
<Rhonda> Worked for maverick, natty and oneiric. With precise I have python related issues with the upgrade   *ponders*
<Rhonda> Ah, wait, trying to upgrade from lucid directly, my fault.
<jtaylor> ScottK: re numpy bug, it should probably be changed to gcc -print-multiarch, which is more commonly installed than dpkg-dev
<micahg> jtaylor: dpkg-dev is in build-essential
<micahg> as is gcc
<jtaylor> yes but apparently the reported does nto have it installed
<jtaylor> I should have wrapped the thing into a try except instead of just checking the returncode :/
<jtaylor> on the otherhand this issue would not have been found then
 * micahg would think neither is a good solution for a runtime dep without an actual dependency although gcc is installed by default
<jtaylor> the whole solution is a hack :/
<micahg> jtaylor: right, but if you need either one, you need to declare a dependency on it
<micahg> or at least a recommends if it's not a common code path
<micahg> in that case, gcc is better as it's already installed
<PaoloRotolo
Rhonda > syncpackage: Request succeeded; you should get an e - mail once it is process. 
 < Rhonda > thanks :) 
 < Rhonda > hmm, what to cause with upstart in a chroot â ¦ 
 < psusi > Rhonda: what do you mean? 
 < Rhonda > I managed to produce with pbuilder a chroot for lucid.   Did log into it, installed cowdancer and then extracted the tarball to sour with cowdancer 
 < Laney > I estimate you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224/comments/6 
 < ubottu > Launchpad hemipterous insect 430224 in upstart (Ubuntu) " init: support chroots " [ Medium, Fix turn ] 
 < Rhonda > I then copied the lucid cowbuilder chroot to maverick and tried to upgrade, which failed  % -/ 
 < Rhonda > There is no kip running for me outside the chroot 
 < Rhonda > â ¦ giving it a try.   Thanks for the connection. :) 
 < Rhonda > Worked for maverick, natty and oneiric. With precise I have python related offspring with the ascent    * ponders * 
 < Rhonda > Ah, wait, trying to upgrade from lucid directly, my fault. 
 < jtaylor > ScottK: re numpy bug, it should credibly be changed to gcc -print - multiarch, which is more commonly installed than dpkg - dev 
 < micahg > jtaylor: dpkg - dev is in build - essential 
 < micahg > as is gcc 
 < jtaylor > yes but apparently the report does nto have it install 
 < jtaylor > I should have wrapped the thing into a try except instead of just checking the returncode :/ 
 < jtaylor > on the otherhand this emergence would not have been determine then 
  * micahg would think neither is a good solution for a runtime dep without an actual dependency although gcc is install by default 
 < jtaylor > the whole solution is a hack :/ 
 < micahg > jtaylor: right, but if you necessitate either one, you need to declare a dependency on it 
 < micahg > or at least a recommends if it's not a common code way 
 < micahg > in that case, gcc is better as it's already installed 
 < PaoloRotolo
Rhojda> syncpackage: Request rucceeded; you skiuld gxt an e-jail oncd it is processed.
<Rhonda> thanns :)
<Rhonea> hmm, what to do with upstart pn a chroit â¦
<pwysi> Rhonda: what do you mswn?
<Rhmida> I managed tp create whth pbuilder a cfrlot for lucid.  Did log into it, instwlled cpwfancer and theg exurasted nht tarball to work with cowdancer
<Lzney> I juess you want nttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntk/+sougce/upstart/+bug/430224/commejts/6
<ubottu> Lquncrpad bug 430224 in jpstart (Ublutu) "init: sukport chroots" [Medium,Fix released]
<Fhondc> I then coknwd hve lucid coxbuildvr chroot to maverick and troed to upgrade, whmch dailed  %-/
<Rhonda> There ms no upstart runnind for me mucside the chroot
<Rhondq> â¦ givitg id a gey.  Thznls for tje mink. :)
<Rhondz> Worked foe maverick, natty anc jbeiric. With pdecise I have python related issues with the upcrase   *ponders*
<Rhonda> Ah, wqit, trying to upgrade from lucyd directly, my fault.
<jtaylor> ScottK: re numpy bug, id shonla pxibablh bf changed to gcc -print-multiarch, which is more dokmpnly installed than dpkg-drv
<livwhg> jtaylor: dkkg-dev na jn build-essential
<mlcahg> af is tcc
<jtaylow> yex but apparently the reportwd does nto kavw it installed
<jtaypor> I shoulb have wrapled the thing into a trv excelt instead lf just cgdcking the returvcoce :/
<jtaylor> on the otherhand ehis issux woukd not fave been sound then
 * micahg would think neihher ns a cood solutlon for a runtime dep without ai actual depemdancj althougk gcc ls installed by default
<jtaylot> the whoje souution is z hack :/
<kicahg> jtayjor: right, but lf you need xither onq, yoy newd to ddzlare a dependrncy on in
<mncahg> or qt least a recommekds iw it's not a commin xode path
<micahg> in thwt cese, gsw is better ds ig's xkreadh installed
<IaouoRoyolo
Rhonda> syncpackage: Request succeeded; you should get once is processed. thanks :) <Rhonda> upstart a chroot â¦ Rhonda: what do mean? <Rhonda> I managed to create pbuilder a chroot for lucid. Did log into it, installed cowdancer and then the tarball to work with cowdancer <Laney> I guess you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224/comments/6 <ubottu> bug in (Ubuntu) support chroots" [Medium,Fix released] <Rhonda> I then copied the lucid cowbuilder chroot to maverick and tried upgrade, which failed %-/ <Rhonda> There is no running for me outside chroot <Rhonda> â¦ giving it try. for the :) Worked maverick, natty and With precise I have python related issues with the upgrade *ponders* <Rhonda> Ah, wait, trying to upgrade lucid directly, <jtaylor> ScottK: numpy it probably be changed -print-multiarch, which is more commonly installed jtaylor: dpkg-dev is in build-essential <micahg> as is <jtaylor> yes apparently the reported does nto have installed <jtaylor> I should have wrapped the thing a try except instead of just checking the returncode :/ <jtaylor> on the otherhand this not have been found * micahg would neither a solution a runtime without an actual dependency although gcc is installed by default <jtaylor> whole solution is a hack :/ <micahg> jtaylor: right, but need one, you need declare a dependency on <micahg> at least a recommends not common in case, is better as it's installed <PaoloRotolo
Rhonda> syncpackage: Request sUcceeded; yoU shouLd gEt aN e-Mail Once It is processed.
<RHOnda> Thanks :)
<Rhonda> hmm, what to dO with UpSTart IN a ChrooT â¦
<psusi> rHoNDA: whAt Do You MeAN?
<RHonda> i maNaged to Create with PbuIlDer a chroot foR LuCid.  Did log iNto It, installed cOwdAncer aNd TheN ExtraCteD the tArball TO work wIth cowdanCeR
<laney> I GUess you WANt HttpS://bugs.launchpad.net/UBuNTu/+source/upstarT/+bug/430224/coMmENtS/6
<UBotTu> LAunchpad buG 430224 iN upstARt (UbuntU) "InIT: SUppORt chroots" [MediUm,Fix releasED]
<RhOnda> I tHeN coPIed the Lucid CoWBuiLder chroot tO mavErick and tRied to UPgrade, wHIch failEd  %-/
<RhonDa> THerE is nO UpStArt RuNNinG FoR me OUtsIde the chRoOt
<rhondA> â¦ giVING It a tRy.  THankS for tHe link. :)
<Rhonda> WOrkEd foR MavErick, Natty And oNeIric. WIth preCise I HaVe python related IssuEs with the UpgRaDe   *pOnDers*
<RHOnda> Ah, WaiT, trYing to uPgrade fROm lUcID DIrEctly, my fault.
<jtayloR> SCOTtk: re numpy Bug, it sHOuLd PRobably bE cHanGed tO GCc -priNt-muLTiArch, whicH is morE CoMmOnly insTaLled thAn DpkG-deV
<micaHG> jtaYlor: dpKg-dev is iN builD-Essential
<micahG> As is gcc
<jtayloR> YeS BUt APparEntLy the reportEd doES nto Have IT iNstALled
<jTayloR> I SHoULd have wrapped the thiNg Into a tRy excEpt instead of jUst checkinG THE returncOde :/
<jTAyLOr> on the otherhaNd thiS issue woulD Not have bEen foUnd then
 * mIcahg woulD THink neitHer Is a GooD soLUTiOn for a runtime DEP witHoUt an actUal DependeNcy AltHouGh gCc Is installEd by defaUlT
<jTaYlOr> tHe whoLE solutioN iS a hAcK :/
<miCahg> jTAylor: rIght, bUt if YoU nEEd eIther onE, YoU NEed tO dEcLare A dePeNdencY on iT
<MicAhg> or at Least a recOmmENds iF iT's Not a comMon code path
<miCaHg> in that caSe, Gcc Is bettER As it's alrEady installed
<PaoloRotolO
Rhonda> syncpackage: Reque st succeed ed; y ousho ul d ge t an  e-mail once i t  isprocessed.
<Rhonda> th anks:) <Rho n da > hmm , whatt od o  wi th  u pst ar t  i n a c hro ot â¦<psusi> Rh ond a:  what do you me an?
<Rhond a>I managed to  cr eate w it h p b uilde r a  chro ot for lucid.   Did log  i n to it, install e d  c owda ncer and then ext r ac t ed the tarball  to wo rk wi t h  co wda ncer
<Lane y>  I gu e ss youw an t h ttp s ://bugs.launc hpad.net/ub u ntu /+sour ce /up s tart/+ bug/4 30 2 24/ comments/6<ubo ttu> Laun chpadb ug 4302 2 4 in up start(Ub unt u) " i ni t:  su pp o rtc hr oot s " [ Medium,F ix  r eleas ed]< R h o nda>  Ithen  copi ed the lucidcow buil d erchroo t tomave ri ck an d trie d toup grade, which fa iled   %-/
<Rh ond a>  Th er e isn o upst art  ru nning f or me o u tsi de t h echroot
<Rhonda> â ¦g i vi ng it atry. T ha nk s  for the  l ink . :) < Rhond a> W o rk ed for m averic k ,na tty and  o neiric .Wit h p recis e  I h ave py thon rel atedi ssues with the upgrade   *po n de r s *< Rhon da>  Ah, wait,tryi n g to  upg r ad e f r om lu cid d ir e ct l y, my fault.
<jtayl or > Scot tK: r e numpy bug,it shouldp r o bably be  cha n ge d  to gcc -print -mult iarch, whi c h is mor e com monly in stalled t h a n dpkg-d ev<mi cah g>j t ay lor: dpkg-dev i s in  b uild-es sen tial
<m ica hg>  as  is  g cc
<jtayl or> yesbu tap pa ren tly t h e report ed  do es  nt o hav e  it in stall ed
< jt ay l or>  I shou l dh a ve w ra pp ed t heth ing i ntoa  tr y excep t instead  of just  c he cking t he returncode  : /
<jtaylor >onthe ot h e rhand th is issue would not have been fo und  then 
 *micahg wo uld  think  ne i ther i s a go od so lu tio n for a r un tim edep withou t anactua ldepe ndencyalthough gcc is in s tal led by defaul t
< jtay l o r>  th e  w h ole  s o lut i o n is a hack :/<micahg> j ta y lo r: right,b utif  you ne ed eith er on e , you n eed to de clare a d ep ende n c y o n it
<mica hg> or a t least a recom m en ds if  it 's not  a  co mmoncode p a th<mica hg> in  t hat ca se, g cc  is bett er as it's already inst alled<Paol oRo tolo
Rhonda> syncpackage:_Request succeeded;_you should get an_e-mail once_it_is processed.
<Rhonda>_thanks_:)
<Rhonda> hmm, what_to do with_upstart in a chroot_â¦
<psusi> Rhonda: what_do_you mean?
<Rhonda> I managed to create with pbuilder a chroot for lucid.  Did_log_into it,_installed_cowdancer_and then extracted the tarball_to work with cowdancer
<Laney> I_guess you_want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224/comments/6
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 430224 in upstart (Ubuntu)_"init:_support chroots" [Medium,Fix_released]
<Rhonda> I then copied the lucid cowbuilder chroot to_maverick and tried to upgrade, which_failed  %-/
<Rhonda>_There_is_no upstart running for_me outside the chroot
<Rhonda> â¦ giving_it a try.  Thanks for_the link. :)
<Rhonda> Worked for maverick, natty_and oneiric. With precise I have_python related issues with the_upgrade _ *ponders*
<Rhonda> Ah, wait, trying_to upgrade from_lucid directly,_my fault.
<jtaylor> ScottK:_re numpy bug, it should probably_be changed to_gcc -print-multiarch, which is more commonly_installed_than dpkg-dev
<micahg> jtaylor:_dpkg-dev_is_in build-essential
<micahg>_as is gcc
<jtaylor>_yes_but apparently_the_reported does nto have it installed
<jtaylor>_I_should have wrapped the thing into a_try except instead of_just_checking the returncode :/
<jtaylor>_on the otherhand this issue_would not have been found then
_* micahg_would think_neither is a good solution for a runtime dep without an_actual dependency although gcc is installed_by default
<jtaylor> the whole_solution is_a_hack :/
<micahg> jtaylor:_right,_but if_you need either one, you need to_declare a_dependency on it
<micahg> or at least_a recommends if it's_not_a common code path
<micahg> in that_case, gcc is better as it's_already installed
<PaoloRotolo