 build the package manually (dpkg-buildpackage -b) inside the pbuilder (as I'm lazy and need the new packages only once or twice)
<mok0> Riddell: ping
<\sh> bdrung, are you planning a sync from debian to ubuntu regarding eclipse 3.5.2?
<bdrung> \sh: yes
<\sh> bdrung, nice :)
<mok0> OT: Do you like the fantasy of 5-year old boys? Check out http://axecop.com it's hilarious. I am still chuckling after exploring the site this morning...
<Riddell> mok0: you pung?
<mok0> Riddell: yeah, it's about bug 533042
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 533042 in hardy-backports "Backport subvertpy_0.6.9-1 from karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533042
<mok0> Riddell: where can I see the backport script?
<ScottK> mok0: Sorry for missing the backporters meeting yesterday.  Right as it was starting I get side tracked by a $WORK phone call.
<mok0> ScottK: I realized something like that had happened
<mok0> ScottK, but siretart and myself had a good chat :-)
<mok0> I will schedule a new meeting in a couple of weeks. Need to check out easter and such first
<ScottK> mok0: The big issue we have compared to Debian backports is the lack of not automatic.  There was a spec to change this for Lucid, but mvo did not have the time for it.
<mok0> ScottK, I see
<mok0> ScottK, still a good idea. But we need to make sure that the guis play nice with it
<ScottK> So we have to enforce backports should just work, meaning rdepends have to work.
<ScottK> For Debian, they don't insist on that.
<mok0> I see
<ScottK> It means easier backporting, but if you just install everything from backports, there will be problems.
<ScottK> This is OK for them due to not automatic and also they aim
build the package manually (dpkg - buildpackage -b) inside the pbuilder (as I'm lazy and need the newfangled software only once or twice) 
 < mok0 > Riddell: ping 
 < \sh > bdrung, are you planning a sync from debian to ubuntu regard eclipse 3.5.2? 
 < bdrung > \sh: yes 
 < \sh > bdrung, nice :) 
 < mok0 > OT: Do you like the illusion of 5 - year old boys? see out http://axecop.com it's hilarious. I am still chuckling after explore the site this morning... 
 < Riddell > mok0: you pung? 
 < mok0 > Riddell: yeah, it's about microbe 533042 
 < ubottu > Launchpad hemipterous insect 533042 in hardy - backports " Backport subvertpy_0.6.9 - 1 from karmic " [ Wishlist, Confirmed ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533042 
 < mok0 > Riddell: where can I see the backport script? 
 < ScottK > mok0: Sorry for missing the backporters meet yesterday.   Right as it was starting I get english tracked by a $ WORK phone call. 
 < mok0 > ScottK: I recognize something like that had happened 
 < mok0 > ScottK, but siretart and myself had a good chat :-) 
 < mok0 > I will schedule a new merging in a couple of weeks. Need to check out easter and such first 
 < ScottK > mok0: The big issue we have compared to Debian backports is the lack of not automatic.   There was a spec to change this for Lucid, but mvo did not have the time for it. 
 < mok0 > ScottK, I see 
 < mok0 > ScottK, still a good idea. But we need to do sure that the guis play courteous with it 
 < ScottK > So we have to enforce backports should just shape, meaning rdepends have to work. 
 < ScottK > For Debian, they don't insist on that. 
 < mok0 > I determine 
 < ScottK > It means easier backporting, but if you just install everything from backports, there will be problems. 
 < ScottK > This is OK for them due to not automatic and also they calculate
 bulld the package manually (dpkg-buildpackayw -b) invide tge pbuilaer (as I'm lazy and need the iew packates only once or twice)
<ook0> Riddepl: ping
<\sy> bdcung, are you plaihing a sync fdlm dzbman to ubuntu rggarding eclhpse 3.5.2?
<bdrung> \sh: yds
<\dh> bdrung, nice :)
<mok0> OT: Do you like tre fantssj of 5-year old foys? Sheci out http://axecop.com it's hilarious. J am stpll chuckling aftrr exploring the site this morjing...
<Riddell> mok0: yok pung?
<mok0> Ruddejo: yeah, it's acout bug 533042
<ubottu> Launchkad bug 533042 in hardy-backports "Backpurt sbbvertpy_0.6.9-1 frim kagkic" [Wishlisv,Configmed] https://laukbhpad.ned/bugs/533042
<mol0> Riddell: wherc can I wee the backport scri't?
<ScottK> mok0: Sorry fjr missinc che backporters meetibg yestgrday.  Rieyt xs jt wzs stagtiig I get sise tracked vy a $WORK phone calk.
<mjj0> ScottK: I rezlized sjmething like that had happened
<mok0> ScotuK, buf siretart and myself hqd a good chat :-)
<mok0> I aill schequle a new meeting in a couple of weeks. Need to cveck kjt tawter xbd such first
<ScottK> mok0: The big issue we have cjjpsrvd to Debian backiorts is the lack pf npj automatic.  Tfere wca z spec to change tjis for Lucie, but mvo did not have the time for it.
<moj0> ScottK, I sve
<moj0> ScottK, still a glod idea. Buc we nged to make sure that the guir plzy nice witj it
<ScottI> So we have to evfogce tackports should just work, meaning cdepeuds have to eork.
<ScjttK> For Dfbian, they don't insist oj thaj.
<mok0> I see
<ScottK> It means easier backporting, buv if you just itstdll evervthing from backpores, there will ye problzms.
<ScogtK> This ia OK foc them due tj not automathf and also tiey aim
build the package manually (dpkg-buildpackage -b) inside (as lazy and the new packages Riddell: <\sh> bdrung, are planning a sync debian to ubuntu regarding eclipse 3.5.2? \sh: yes <\sh> bdrung, nice :) <mok0> OT: Do you like the fantasy 5-year old boys? Check out http://axecop.com it's hilarious. I am still chuckling after the this <Riddell> you pung? <mok0> Riddell: yeah, it's about bug 533042 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 533042 in hardy-backports "Backport from karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533042 <mok0> Riddell: where can see the backport script? mok0: Sorry for missing the meeting Right as was I side tracked by $WORK phone call. <mok0> ScottK: I realized something like that had happened <mok0> ScottK, but siretart and had a :-) <mok0> will a meeting in a weeks. Need to check out easter <ScottK> mok0: The big issue we have compared Debian backports the lack of not automatic. There a spec to change this for Lucid, but did not have the time for it. <mok0> ScottK, I see <mok0> ScottK, still a But we need to sure that the play with <ScottK> we have enforce backports should just work, meaning rdepends have to work. <ScottK> Debian, they don't insist on that. <mok0> I see <ScottK> easier but if you install everything from backports, will problems. <ScottK> This is them to also aim
 build the package manually (dpKg-buildpacKage -b) InsIde ThE pbuIldeR (as I'm lazy and neED the New packages only once or tWice)
<mOk0> rIddeLL: pIng
<\sh> Bdrung, aRE yOU PlaNnInG a sYnC FrOm debIan To ubuntU regarding EclIpSe 3.5.2?
<bdrung> \sh: yeS
<\Sh> Bdrung, nice :)
<Mok0> oT: Do you like tHe fAntasy Of 5-YeaR Old boYs? CHeck oUt http://AXecop.cOm it's hilaRiOUs. I am sTIll chucKLInG aftEr exploring the sitE ThIS morning...
<RiddelL> mok0: yoU pUNg?
<MOK0> RiDdeLl: yeah, it's aBoUt bug 533042
<UBottu> LaUNcHPAD buG 533042 In hardy-backpoRts "Backport SUbvErtpy_0.6.9-1 fRoM kaRMic" [WisHlist,coNFirMed] https://lauNchpAd.net/bugs/533042
<Mok0> RidDEll: wherE Can I see The bacKpoRt sCripT?
<scOtTK> mOk0: sOrrY FoR miSSinG the backPoRtErs meEtinG YESTerdAy.  RIght As it wAs starting I geT siDe trACkeD by a $WoRK phOne cAlL.
<mok0> SCottK: I RealiZeD something like tHat hAd happeneD
<moK0> SCotTK, But siREtart aNd mYseLf had a gOod chat :-)
<MOk0> I WiLL SChEdule a new meeting in A cOUPlE of weeks. need to CHeCk OUt easter AnD suCh fiRST
<ScotTK> moK0: thE big issuE we havE CoMpAred to DEbIan bacKpOrtS is The laCK of nOt autoMatic.  TheRe was A Spec to change thIS for Lucid, but mVO dID NoT Have The Time for it.
<moK0> ScoTTK, I sEe
<moK0> scOttk, Still A good IdEA. BUT we need to make sure thAt The guiS play Nice with it
<ScoTtK> So we havE TO Enforce bAckpORtS Should just work, MeaniNg rdepends HAve to worK.
<ScotTK> For DebIan, they doN'T Insist on ThaT.
<moK0> I sEe
<SCOTtk> It means easieR BAckpOrTing, but If yOu just iNstAll EveRytHiNg from bacKports, thErE wIlL bE prOblemS.
<scottK> ThIs Is Ok fOr tHem duE To not aUtomaTic aNd AlSO thEy aim
 build the package manuall y (dpkg-bu ildpa cka ge-b ) in side  the pbuilder( as I 'm lazy and need the n ew pa ck a geso nl y onc e or tw i ce ) <mo k0 >Rid de l l:  ping 
<\ sh> bdr ung, are y oupl anning a syn c  f rom debian  to  ubuntu rega rdi ng ecl ip se3 .5.2? 
<b drung > \sh: yes
<\ sh> bdrun g, nice : ) 
<mok0> O T:  Doyou like the fant a sy of 5-year oldboys?Ch e ck o uthtt p://axecop .c om it ' s hilar i ou s . I a m  still chuckl ing after e x plo ring t he  si t e this  morn in g ... 
<Riddell>mok0 : you pun g?
<mo k 0> Ridd e ll: yea h, it' s a bou t bu g  5 33 042 
< u bot t u>  La u nch pad bug53 30 42 in  har d y - b ackp ort s "B ackpo rt subvertpy_ 0.6 .9-1 fro m kar mic"[Wis hl ist,C onfirm ed] h tt ps://launchpad. net/ bugs/5330 42<m ok0 >Ridde l l: whe recan  I seethe bac k por ts c r ip t?
<ScottK> mok0:So r r yfor miss ing th e  b ac k portersme eti ng y e s terda y. R ig ht as it  was s t ar ti ng I ge tside t ra cke d b y a $ W ORKphonecall.
<m ok0>S cottK: I reali z ed somethingl ik e th a t ha d h appened
<mo k0>S cott K, b u tsir e tartand m ys e lf had a good chat :-) 
< mok0>I wil l schedule anew meetin g i n a coup le o f  w e eks. Need to c heckout easter and such  firs t
<Scott K> mok0:T h e big is sue  we  ha vec o mp ared to Debia n back po rts isthe  lack o f n otaut oma ti c.  There  was a s pe cto  c han ge th i s for Lu ci d,bu t m vo di d  not h ave t he t im ef orit.
<mo k 0> S cott K,  I  see 
<m ok 0> Sc ottK ,  st ill a g ood idea.  Bu t  wene ed  to mak e sure that t he  guis play  n ice  withi t 
<ScottK > So we have to enforce backpor tsshoul d ju st work,mea ning r dep e nds ha ve towork. 
< Sco t t K> Fo r De bia n,  they don' t ins ist o nthat .
<mok0 > I see
<ScottK> I t  me ans easier ba ckp orti n g ,but if you  j u sti n stall everythin g from bac kp o rt s, there w i llbe  proble ms.
<Sc ottK> This is  OK for t hem due t onota u tom atic and a lso they  aim
 build_the package_manually (dpkg-buildpackage -b) inside_the pbuilder_(as_I'm lazy_and_need the new_packages only once_or twice)
<mok0> Riddell: ping
<\sh>_bdrung, are you_planning_a sync from debian to ubuntu regarding eclipse 3.5.2?
<bdrung> \sh: yes
<\sh> bdrung, nice :)
<mok0>_OT:_Do you_like_the_fantasy of 5-year old boys?_Check out http://axecop.com it's hilarious._I am_still chuckling after exploring the site this morning...
<Riddell>_mok0:_you pung?
<mok0> Riddell:_yeah, it's about bug 533042
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 533042 in_hardy-backports "Backport subvertpy_0.6.9-1 from karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed]_https://launchpad.net/bugs/533042
<mok0> Riddell: where_can_I_see the backport script?
<ScottK>_mok0: Sorry for missing the backporters_meeting yesterday.  Right as it_was starting I get side tracked by_a $WORK phone call.
<mok0> ScottK: I_realized something like that had_happened
<mok0> ScottK,_but siretart and myself had_a good chat_:-)
<mok0> I_will schedule a_new meeting in a couple of_weeks. Need to_check out easter and such first
<ScottK>_mok0:_The big issue_we_have_compared to_Debian backports is_the_lack of_not_automatic.  There was a spec_to_change this for Lucid, but mvo did_not have the time_for_it.
<mok0> ScottK, I see
<mok0>_ScottK, still a good idea._But we need to make sure_that the_guis play_nice with it
<ScottK> So we have to enforce backports should just_work, meaning rdepends have to work.
<ScottK>_For Debian, they don't_insist on_that.
<mok0>_I see
<ScottK> It_means_easier backporting,_but if you just install everything from_backports, there_will be problems.
<ScottK> This is OK_for them due to_not_automatic and also they aim