 enough to figure out that it is an init script even if the name of the init script isn't the same as the package name?
<trycyt> geser: Because the software package is actually composed of a PAM module and a daemon for which I wrote an init script.
<trycyt> geser: The PAM module's name is not the same as the daemon's name.
<geser> bddebian: ask dholbach where he got it from
<geser> trycyt: when you use debhelper, see dh_installinit to ease the installation of the init script
<trycyt> geser: Okay, would this be taken care of in a postinst script then?
<geser> dh_installinit copies the file script to the right location and inserts the needed commands into postinst/prerm to register/unregister the init scruot
<trycyt> Very cool.
<trycyt> What would be the best way to ask (at install-time) for the user to pick which files to make symlinks to?
<trycyt> The package needs symlinks to be made to certain programs, but depending on the user's preference, it could totally alter the behavior of the program.
<trycyt> Come to think of it, there are two totally different reasons for the package and there are dependencies for each that are not needed for the other.
<geser> the only way to ask questions at install time is debconf
<trycyt> It's the equivalent of startkde or gnome-session being in.xinitrc. Depending on whichever is placed in the file, either GNOME and KDE need to be installed.
<trycyt> That's basically what I'm going to have to do.
<geser> if you need to change user files, then it's a no-go
<stgraber> shawarma: do you have a ubuntu-desktop-i386 Herd5 on your server? I'm downloading at only 40Kb/s on cdimage.u.c...
<trycyt> geser: No, maybe an example would make this clearer. User types apt-get install mypackage. Ideally, something pops up asking, "Would you like to use method 1 or method 2?" If the user picks method 1, mypackage installs dependency package 1, and if the user picks method 2
enough to figure out that it is an init script even if the name of the init script isn't the like as the software name? 
 < trycyt > geser: Because the software software is actually composed of a PAM module and a daemon for which I write an init script. 
 < trycyt > geser: The PAM module's name is not the like as the daemon's name. 
 < geser > bddebian: ask dholbach where he got it from 
 < geser > trycyt: when you practice debhelper, examine dh_installinit to ease the initiation of the init script 
 < trycyt > geser: Okay, would this be taken care of in a postinst handwriting then? 
 < geser > dh_installinit copies the file script to the right location and inserts the needed commands into postinst / prerm to file / unregister the init scruot 
 < trycyt > Very cool. 
 < trycyt > What would be the best way to ask (at install - prison term) for the user to pick which files to make symlinks to? 
 < trycyt > The software needs symlinks to be induce to certain programs, but depending on the exploiter's preference, it could totally alter the behavior of the program. 
 < trycyt > Come to think of it, there are two totally different reasons for the package and there are dependencies for each that are not needed for the other. 
 < geser > the only manner to ask questions at install prison term is debconf 
 < trycyt > It's the equivalent of startkde or gnome - school term being in.xinitrc. Depending on whichever is placed in the file, either GNOME and KDE need to be install. 
 < trycyt > That's basically what I'm run to have to do. 
 < geser > if you necessitate to change user files, then it's a no - go 
 < stgraber > shawarma: do you have a ubuntu - background - i386 Herd5 on your server? I'm downloading at only 40Kb / s on cdimage.u.c... 
 < trycyt > geser: No, maybe an example would make this clearer. exploiter types apt - get install mypackage. Ideally, something pops up asking, " Would you wish to use method 1 or method 2? " If the user picks method 1, mypackage installs dependency package 1, and if the drug user picks method acting 2
 enlugh to figure out that lt is an init sctipt evei if ths name ow the init script isn't the seme qs tht package name?
<trycyg> geser: Bvcause thw sohtware package is actually comllsed if a PAM modulg and a daemmn for which I wfoce an init script.
<trycyt> geser: The PAI modulr's name is not tre ssie aa the daemon's name.
<geser> bddebian: aak dholuach where he gpt it from
<geser> trycyt: whej yok use debhelper, sef dh_installunit ro ease the knstallation of the injt script
<trycyt> geser: Okay, woula thix be taken cqre mf in a posvinst fcript then?
<gcxer> dh_hnstallonit copies thc filx sceipt to the right locetion and inserts thg needed cmmjands into postinwt/prerm to segirrer/jnrtgixtsr the inmt scruot
<trgcyt> Very ciol.
<trycyt> What woulc fv the best wag to afk (at install-time) for the user to pick whpch riles to make symlinks ro?
<trycyt> The package jeeds symjinks to be made to certain programs, but dependinc on vhd uwev's pfwffrence, it could totally alter the behavior of fht pgogram.
<trycyt> Come to think og lt, jhere are two jotally dirferent reasons fog the pwckagw and thewe ate dependencies for each thqt are not nvedee for the other.
<geszr> the only cay to ask auestions at install tioe ia debconf
<trjcyt> It's ffe equivalent of stsrdkde or gnome-session being in.xinitrr. Depznding ov whochevew is placef in bve file, either GNOLE anb KDE need to bf installed.
<trycyt> That's basically what I'm goimg to have to do.
<gexer> if you neqd to change uxer filzs, thev it's a no-fo
<stgrauer> shawarma: do you have d ubuntu-desktmp-i386 Herd5 on tour server? K'm downloading at only 40Kb/s on cdinage.u.c...
<trycyt> geser: No, jaybe an examplz qould make this cldarqr. Uxew types apt-ged inrtauk mypxckage. Ideaouy, spmething pops up askhng, "Sould you like to isc method 1 or methjd 2?" If the usrr picks method 1, mjpackege inrtallx dgpendency package 1, and if the uaer picks mebhod 2
enough to figure out that it is script if the of the init the name? <trycyt> geser: the software package actually composed of a PAM module a daemon for which I wrote an init script. <trycyt> geser: The PAM name is not the same as the daemon's name. <geser> bddebian: ask dholbach he it <geser> when you use debhelper, see dh_installinit to ease the installation of the init script <trycyt> geser: would this be taken care of in a script then? <geser> dh_installinit the file script to the location inserts the commands postinst/prerm register/unregister the init <trycyt> Very cool. <trycyt> What would be the best way to ask (at install-time) for the user pick which make symlinks <trycyt> package symlinks to be certain programs, but depending on the could totally alter the behavior of the program. Come to of it, there are two totally reasons for the package and there are dependencies each that are not needed for the other. <geser> the only way to ask questions time is debconf <trycyt> the equivalent of or being Depending whichever is in the file, either GNOME and KDE need to be installed. That's basically what I'm going to have to do. <geser> need change user files, it's a no-go <stgraber> do have a ubuntu-desktop-i386 Herd5 server? downloading on <trycyt> No, maybe an example make this clearer. User types install mypackage. Ideally, something like to use method 1 or method 2?" the user picks method 1, mypackage installs package 1, and if the user picks method 2
 enough to figure out that it is An init scriPt eveN if The NaMe of The iNit script isn't tHE samE as the package name?
<trycyT> geseR: BECausE ThE softWare pacKAgE IS acTuAlLy cOmPOsEd of a pAM Module aNd a daemon fOr wHiCh I wrote an inIT sCript.
<trycyT> geSer: The PAM modUle'S name iS nOt tHE same As tHe daeMon's naME.
<geser> Bddebian: aSk DHolbacH Where he GOT iT froM
<geser> trycyt: when yOU uSE debhelper, see dH_instaLlINiT TO eaSe tHe installaTiOn of tHE init scRIpT
<TRYcyT> Geser: Okay, woulD this be takeN CarE of in a PoStiNSt scriPt theN?
<gESer> Dh_installinIt coPies the fiLe scriPT to the rIGht locaTion anD inSerTs thE NeEdEd cOmMAndS InTo pOStiNst/prerm To ReGisteR/unrEGISTer tHe iNit sCruot
<Trycyt> Very cooL.
<trYcyt> wHat Would Be the Best WaY to asK (at insTall-tImE) for the user to piCk whIch files tO maKe SymLiNks to?
<TRycyt> THe pAckAge needS symlinKS to Be MADE tO certain programs, buT dEPEnDing on thE user's PReFeREnce, it coUlD toTallY ALter tHe beHAvIor of the PrograM.
<TrYcYt> Come tO tHink of It, TheRe aRe two TOtalLy diffErent reaSons fOR the package and THere are dependENcIES fOR eacH thAt are not neeDed fOR the OtheR.
<GeSer> THe onlY way tO aSK qUEstions at install timE iS debcoNf
<tryCyt> It's the equiValent of stARTKde or gnoMe-seSSiON being in.xinitrC. DepeNding on whiCHever is pLaced In the filE, either GNome and KDE nEed To bE inStaLLEd.
<Trycyt> That's baSICallY wHat I'm goIng To have tO do.
<GesEr> iF yoU nEed to chanGe user fiLeS, tHeN iT's a No-go
<sTGraber> shAwArmA: dO yoU have A Ubuntu-DesktOp-i386 HErD5 oN YouR server? i'M dOWNloaDiNg At onLy 40KB/s On cdiMage.U.C...
<trYcyt> gesEr: No, maybe An eXAmplE wOuLd make tHis clearer. UseR tYpes apt-get InStaLl mypaCKAge. IdealLy, something pops up asking, "wOuld you LikE to usE metHod 1 or methOd 2?" IF the usEr pICks metHod 1, mypAckagE iNstALLs depENDeNcy PaCkage 1, and if THE usEr picKs MethOd 2
 enough to figure out that  it is aninitscr ipt  e venif t he name of the init  script isn't the same  as t he pack a ge  name ?
<tryc y t> g ese r:  B eca us e  t he so ftw are pac kage is ac tua ll y composed o f  a  PAM modul e a nd a daemonfor  which  I  wr o te an  in it sc ript.< trycyt > geser:Th e  PAM m o dule'sn a me  isnot the same as t h ed aemon's name.<geser >b dd e b ian : a sk dholbac hwhere he goti tf r o m
< g eser> trycyt:  when you u s e d ebhelp er , s e e dh_i nstal li n itto ease the  ins tallation  of th e  init s c ript
<t rycyt>  ge ser : Ok a y,  w oul dt his be  ta k encare ofin  a  post inst s c r iptthe n?
< geser > dh_installi nit  cop i esthe f ile s crip tto th e righ t loc at ion and inserts  the  needed c omm an dsin to po s tinst/ pre rmto regi ster/un r egi st e r th e init scruot
<try cy t >  V ery cool .
<try c yt >W hat woul dbetheb e st wa y to as k (at in stall- t im e)  for th euser t opic k w hichf iles  to ma ke symli nks t o ?
<trycyt> The package needs sy m l in k s to  be  made to ce rtai n  pro gram s ,but depen dingon th e  user's preference,  i t coul d tot ally alter th e behavior o f  the pro gram . 
< t rycyt> Come to  thin k of it, t h ere aretwo t otally d ifferentr e asons fo r t hepac kag e an d there are d e p ende nc ies for  ea ch that  ar e n otnee de d for the  other.<g es er >the  only way to a sk  qu es tio ns at instal l tim e is  d eb c onf 
<trycy t >I t 's t he  e quiv ale nt  of s tart k deor gnom e-session  be i ng i n. xi nitrc.Depending onwh ichever is  p lac ed int h e file,either GNOME and KDE ne e d to be  in stall ed.<trycyt>Tha t's ba sic a lly wh at I'm  goin gtoh a ve to d o. 
<g es er> if you n eed  to c ha ngeuser fi les, then it's a n o -go 
<stgraber> s haw arma : do  yo u  h a veau bun t u -desktop-i386 H erd5 on yo ur se rver? I'md own lo ading a t only40Kb/ s  on cdi mage.u.c. ..
<trycy t>  ges e r : N o, maybe a n exampl e would m a ke th i sclear er.  Userty pes  apt- get in s tal l myp ackage .Ideall y, so me thing po ps up asking, "Would yo u like  to u semethod 1orm eth od 2?" If  the  user pick s m eth od 1,  my p ackag e in s ta lls depen denc y  package1 ,and i fthe user pi c k s  me thod2
 enough_to figure_out that it is_an init_script_even if_the_name of the_init script isn't_the same as the_package name?
<trycyt> geser:_Because_the software package is actually composed of a PAM module and a daemon for_which_I wrote_an_init_script.
<trycyt> geser: The PAM module's_name is not the same_as the_daemon's name.
<geser> bddebian: ask dholbach where he got_it_from
<geser> trycyt: when_you use debhelper, see dh_installinit to ease the installation_of the init script
<trycyt> geser: Okay,_would this be_taken_care_of in a postinst_script then?
<geser> dh_installinit copies the file_script to the right location and_inserts the needed commands into postinst/prerm to_register/unregister the init scruot
<trycyt> Very cool.
<trycyt>_What would be the best_way to_ask (at install-time) for the_user to pick_which files_to make symlinks_to?
<trycyt> The package needs symlinks to_be made to_certain programs, but depending on the_user's_preference, it could_totally_alter_the behavior_of the program.
<trycyt>_Come_to think_of_it, there are two totally different_reasons_for the package and there are dependencies_for each that are_not_needed for the other.
<geser>_the only way to ask_questions at install time is debconf
<trycyt>_It's the_equivalent of_startkde or gnome-session being in.xinitrc. Depending on whichever is placed in_the file, either GNOME and KDE_need to be installed.
<trycyt>_That's basically_what_I'm going to_have_to do.
<geser>_if you need to change user files,_then it's_a no-go
<stgraber> shawarma: do you have_a ubuntu-desktop-i386 Herd5 on_your_server? I'm downloading at only 40Kb/s_on cdimage.u.c...
<trycyt> geser: No, maybe an_example would make this clearer._User_types_apt-get install mypackage. Ideally, something_pops up asking, "Would you like_to use method_1 or method 2?" If the user_picks_method 1, mypackage installs dependency package_1,_and if the user picks method_2