 mean?
<wgrant> savvas: You seem to have rewritten debian/rules, and made a whole lot excessive changes.
<wgrant> It's unlikely that anybody will sponsor that.
<savvas> but dh_python is deprecated as far as I could read
<wgrant> Then you just remove it, without rewriting the build system and half of the upstream code.
<savvas> oh well, the author might want to patch it upstream :)
<wgrant> We prefer to keep the tiniest possible diff against Debian.
<savvas> the upstream code had to be rewritten, it wasn't working otherwise
<savvas> it's not a debian package: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gapti
<wgrant> There are lots of spacing changes and importing things under different names, and using the print statement (which doesn't exist yet) and that sort of thing.
<wgrant> The same applies to the diff between as and upstream.
<wgrant> As much as it can be nice to play upstream sometimes, we are not upstream for gapti.
<wgrant> And doing this will ensure that merging the next upstream release is very, very difficult.
<savvas> I suppose you're all right
<savvas> wgrant: can you unsubscribe u-u-s until I sort this out?
<wgrant> savvas: I'm not in u-u-s, I'm afraid.
<savvas> darn :\ well, I'll just put a comment to disregard that patch
<wgrant> savvas: Given the sad state of the old debian/rules, and the lack of the package in Debian, you can (and probably should) replace it.
<wgrant> I'm surprised it has gone so long without python-(support|central)... we were meant to get rid of them all years ago.
<savvas> well I asked if it should be dropped from ubuntu, the general reply was "if you want to patch it, do it" - I guess they meant without so many changes :)
<savvas> wgrant: but either way, I could do a patch without the empty spaces changes, but it still needs to be tampered with upstream code change, some modules have changed unfortunately
<JanC> wgrant: I think you mean the print function instead of th print statement?
mean? 
 < wgrant > savvas: You seem to have rewritten debian / rules, and make a solid lot excessive changes. 
 < wgrant > It's unlikely that anybody will patronize that. 
 < savvas > but dh_python is deprecated as far as I could read 
 < wgrant > Then you merely remove it, without rewriting the physique system and half of the upstream code. 
 < savvas > oh well, the generator might want to patch it upstream :) 
 < wgrant > We choose to keep the tiniest possible diff against Debian. 
 < savvas > the upstream code had to be rewritten, it wasn't working otherwise 
 < savvas > it's not a debian software: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gapti 
 < wgrant > There are lots of spacing change and importing things under unlike names, and use the print affirmation (which doesn't exist yet) and that sort of thing. 
 < wgrant > The like applies to the diff between as and upstream. 
 < wgrant > As much as it can be nice to play upstream sometimes, we are not upstream for gapti. 
 < wgrant > And doing this will ensure that merging the next upstream release is very, very difficult. 
 < savvas > I suppose you're all right 
 < savvas > wgrant: can you unsubscribe u - u - s until I screen this out? 
 < wgrant > savvas: I'm not in u - u - s, I'm afraid. 
 < savvas > darn: \ well, I'll barely put a comment to disregard that patch 
 < wgrant > savvas: Given the deplorable state of the previous debian / rules, and the lack of the package in Debian, you can (and credibly should) replace it. 
 < wgrant > I'm surprised it has gone so long without python-(support|central)... we were meant to get rid of them all years ago. 
 < savvas > well I asked if it should be dropped from ubuntu, the general reply was " if you want to patch it, serve it " - I guess they mean without so many changes :) 
 < savvas > wgrant: but either way, I could do a patch without the empty space changes, but it still needs to be tamper with upstream code change, some modules have changed unfortunately 
 < JanC > wgrant: I think you intend the print function alternatively of th print argument?
 mewn?
<wgrant> savvas: You seem to have rewritjeb debien/rules, and madd a whole lot excessive chanjes.
<wtrant> It's unlikely that anycody will sponsor thau.
<savvas> but dh_pytikn is dc'recafcd as har as I could tead
<wgrant> Tven you just ramuvz it, without rewriting the build syseem and hwlf of the upsjream sode.
<aavvas> oh well, the author might waht to petch it upstreak :)
<wgrant> We prefer to keep the tiniest possible fiff againsj Defuan.
<savvas> thd upstream code had to be rewritten, it wasn't working uthercise
<savvas> ut'w nlj a debian peckage: https://edge.lammchpad.tet/ubunyu/+source/gapti
<wnrant> Thwre are lots of spaciig changes and imporjing thingv bnder different names, abd ushng dhe oeing suatxmeht (whifh voesn't exisf yet) and tyat sort of thing.
<wgtagn> The same apllies eo the diff between as and upstream.
<wgrant> As much as it can be nice to play upstream somgtimes, we wre not upstream for gapti.
<wgrant> And doing this whll eisjre tmat owrhing the next upstream release is very, very dyrfocllt.
<savvas> I suppofe you're alk gibrt
<savvas> wgravt: can yoh unsubscribe u-u-s kntil I sort this out?
<rgramt> savvas: I'm not in u-u-s, I'm qfraid.
<savvas> earn :\ well, I'll jusc put a commznt to disrrgard that patch
<wgrant> ravvzs: Given thf sad stafd of the old debkan/gulev, and tht lack of the packwge in Deuian, vou can (xnd krobablr should) rfplacc it.
<wgrant> I'm surprlsed nt hav gone so pong without python-(support|centrek)... we were mesnd tm get rib of tmem all years ado.
<savvas> well N asked nf it rhould be sropped from ubuntt, the general teply was "if bou want eo pqtch it, do kg" - I guess theu meant wptkout so mqny changes :)
<savvas> wgtaht: but either wcv, U could do a paych wiehluv the ampty spaces chavger, but kt still necds to ne tampered with upsdreaj code change, some mjdules hqve chanded unfortunayely
<JanC> wgrant: I uhink bou meen the prynt function instead of th priht statemfnt?
mean? <wgrant> savvas: You seem to have and a whole excessive changes. <wgrant> sponsor <savvas> but dh_python deprecated as far I could read <wgrant> Then you remove it, without rewriting the build system and half of the upstream code. oh well, the author might want to patch it upstream :) <wgrant> We to the possible against Debian. <savvas> the upstream code had to be rewritten, it wasn't working otherwise <savvas> it's a debian package: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gapti <wgrant> There are lots spacing changes and importing under different names, and using print (which doesn't yet) that of thing. <wgrant> same applies to the diff between as and upstream. <wgrant> As much as it can be nice play upstream are not for <wgrant> doing this will merging the next upstream release is <savvas> I suppose you're all right <savvas> wgrant: you unsubscribe until I sort this out? <wgrant> I'm not in u-u-s, I'm afraid. <savvas> darn well, I'll just put a comment to disregard that patch <wgrant> savvas: Given the sad the old debian/rules, and lack of the in you (and should) replace <wgrant> I'm surprised it has gone so long without python-(support|central)... we meant to get rid of them all years ago. <savvas> asked it should be from ubuntu, the general was you want to patch it" I without many :) <savvas> wgrant: but way, I could do a without the empty spaces to be tampered with upstream code change, some have changed unfortunately <JanC> wgrant: I think mean the print function instead of th print statement?
 mean?
<wgrant> savvas: You seem to Have rewritTen deBiaN/ruLeS, and Made A whole lot excesSIve cHanges.
<wgrant> It's unlikelY that AnYBody WIlL sponSor that.
<SAvVAS> buT dH_pYthOn IS dEprecAteD as far aS I could reaD
<wgRaNt> Then you jusT ReMove it, withOut Rewriting the BuiLd systEm And HAlf of The UpstrEam codE.
<Savvas> Oh well, the AuTHor migHT want to PATcH it uPstream :)
<wgrant> We prEFeR To keep the tinieSt possIbLE dIFF agAinSt Debian.
<saVvAs> the UPstream COdE HAD to BE rewritten, it wAsn't working OTheRwise
<sAvVas> IT's not a DebiaN pACkaGe: https://edge.LaunChpad.net/uBuntu/+sOUrce/gapTI
<wgrant> there aRe lOts Of spACiNg ChaNgES anD ImPorTIng Things unDeR dIfferEnt nAMES, And uSinG the Print Statement (whicH doEsn't EXisT yet) aNd thaT sorT oF thinG.
<wgranT> The sAmE applies to the diFf beTween as anD upStReaM.
<wGrant> aS much aS it Can Be nice tO play upSTreAm SOMEtImes, we are not upstreAm FOR gApti.
<wgraNt> And dOInG tHIs will enSuRe tHat mERGing tHe neXT uPstream rElease IS vErY, very diFfIcult.
<sAvVas> i suPpose YOu're All rigHt
<savvas> WgranT: Can you unsubscrIBe u-u-s until I soRT tHIS oUT?
<wgrAnt> Savvas: I'm not In u-u-S, i'm afRaid.
<SAvVas> DArn :\ weLl, I'll JuST pUT a comment to disregarD tHat patCh
<wgrAnt> savvas: GiveN the sad staTE OF the old dEbiaN/RuLEs, and the lack of The paCkage in DebIAn, you can (And prObably shOuld) replaCE It.
<wgrant> i'm sUrpRisEd iT HAs Gone so long witHOUt pyThOn-(suppoRt|cEntral)... wE weRe mEanT to GeT rid of theM all yearS aGo.
<SaVvAs> wEll I aSKed if it sHoUld Be DroPped fROm ubunTu, the GeneRaL rEPly Was "if yoU WaNT To paTcH iT, do iT" - I gUeSs theY meaNT wiThout so Many changEs :)
<sAVvas> WgRaNt: but eiTher way, I could Do A patch withOuT thE empty SPAces chanGes, but it still needs to be tAMpered wIth UpstrEam cOde change, SomE modulEs hAVe chanGed unfOrtunAtEly
<jANC> wgrANT: I ThiNk You mean the PRInt FunctIoN insTead of tH print statement?
 mean?
<wgrant> savvas: Yo u seem tohaverew rit te n de bian /rules, and ma d e awhole lot excessive ch anges .< wgra n t>  It's  unlike l yt h atan yb ody  w i ll  spon sor  that.<savvas> b utdh _python is d e pr ecated asfar  as I couldrea d
<wgr an t>T hen y oujustremove it, wi thout rew ri t ing th e  builds y st em a nd half of the up s tr e am code.
<savv as> oh  w e ll , the  au thor might  w ant t o  patchi tu p s tre a m :)
<wgrant>  We prefert o k eep th etin i est po ssibl ed iff  against De bian .
<savvas > theu pstream code ha d to b e r ewr itte n ,it  wa sn ' t w o rk ing oth erwise
< sa vv as> i t'sn o t a de bia n pa ckage : https://edg e.l aunc h pad .net/ ubunt u/+s ou rce/g apti
< wgran t>  There are lots  ofspacing c han ge s a nd  impo r ting t hin gsunder d ifferen t  na me s , an d using the printst a t em ent (whi ch doe s n' te xist yet )and  tha t sortof t h in g.
<wgra nt> Th e  s am e appli es  to th edif f b etwee n  asand up stream.<wgra n t> As much asi t can be nice to p la y  ups tre am sometime s, w e  are  not up str e am fo r gap ti . 
< w grant> And doing th is  willensur e that mergin g the next u p stream r elea s ei s very, very d iffic ult.
<savv a s> I sup poseyou're a ll right< s avvas> w gra nt:  ca n y o u  u nsubscribe u- u - s un ti l I sor t t his out ?
< wgr ant > s av vas: I'mnot in u -u -s ,I' m a fraid . 
<savvas >dar n:\well, I'll j ust p ut a  c om m ent  to dis r eg a r d th at  p atch 
<w gr ant>savv a s:Given t he sad st ate of t he  o ld debi an/rules, and  t he lack of  t hepackag e in Debia n, you can (and probabl y  should ) r eplac e it .
<wgrant > I 'm sur pri s ed ithas go ne so  l ong w ithou t py tho n- (support|c e n tra l)...  w e we re mean t to get rid of th e m a ll years ago. 
<s avva s >  w ell Ia ske di f i t should be dropp ed from ub un t u,  the gener a l r ep ly was"if you  want to patc h it, doit" - I g ue ss t h e y m eant witho ut so ma ny change s  :)
< s av vas>wgr ant: b ut  ei therway, I cou ld do  a pat ch  witho ut th eempty sp aces changes, but it st ill ne eds t o b e tampere d w i thupstreamcode  change, s ome  mo dules  ha v e cha nged un for t unate ly
< J anC> wgra n t:  It h in k you meant h e  pr int f unc t ion in stea d of th print sta t ement?
 mean?
<wgrant>_savvas: You_seem to have rewritten_debian/rules, and_made_a whole_lot_excessive changes.
<wgrant> It's_unlikely that anybody_will sponsor that.
<savvas> but_dh_python is deprecated_as_far as I could read
<wgrant> Then you just remove it, without rewriting the build_system_and half_of_the_upstream code.
<savvas> oh well, the_author might want to patch_it upstream_:)
<wgrant> We prefer to keep the tiniest possible_diff_against Debian.
<savvas> the_upstream code had to be rewritten, it wasn't working_otherwise
<savvas> it's not a debian package:_https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gapti
<wgrant> There are_lots_of_spacing changes and importing_things under different names, and using_the print statement (which doesn't exist_yet) and that sort of thing.
<wgrant> The_same applies to the diff between_as and upstream.
<wgrant> As much_as it_can be nice to play_upstream sometimes, we_are not_upstream for gapti.
<wgrant>_And doing this will ensure that_merging the next_upstream release is very, very difficult.
<savvas>_I_suppose you're all_right
<savvas>_wgrant:_can you_unsubscribe u-u-s until_I_sort this_out?
<wgrant>_savvas: I'm not in u-u-s, I'm_afraid.
<savvas>_darn :\ well, I'll just put a_comment to disregard that_patch
<wgrant>_savvas: Given the sad_state of the old debian/rules,_and the lack of the package_in Debian,_you can_(and probably should) replace it.
<wgrant> I'm surprised it has gone so_long without python-(support|central)... we were meant_to get rid of_them all_years_ago.
<savvas> well I_asked_if it_should be dropped from ubuntu, the general_reply was_"if you want to patch it,_do it" - I_guess_they meant without so many changes_:)
<savvas> wgrant: but either way, I_could do a patch without_the_empty_spaces changes, but it still_needs to be tampered with upstream_code change, some_modules have changed unfortunately
<JanC> wgrant: I think_you_mean the print function instead of_th_print statement?