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<mok0> ScottK, I need an FFE for that
<ScottK> Looking
<mok0> ScottK, It means a jump in version from 3.8.0 to 3.8.3
<mok0> ScottK, OTOH, we wont need to backport the fix
<mok0> ScottK, and maintain this outdated library for 3 years
<ScottK> OK.  Still reading the bug.
<ScottK> mok0: I think you mean 3.6.0 -> 3.8.3.
<mok0> ScottK, uhm yes
<mok0> ScottK, I am building the package now, if the test program works, I propose to sync it
<ScottK> mok0: Do you know why Debian has it in Experimental?
<mok0> ScottK, No... the last comment on the LP page is from the maintainer, so I suppose he thinks it's ok for ubuntu
<mok0> ScottK, the whole 3.8.3 series is in exp.
<ScottK> mok0: libatlas-base-dev has 13 reverse build-depends.  You'd need to deal with the entire transition.
<mok0> ScottK, hm
<ScottK> mok0: Generally, if the newer atlas is mature, I do think it makes sense to move forward, but you need to look at the entire atlas stack and make sure we aren't fixing one thing and breaking 5 others.
<mok0> ScottK, of course... it's more rdepends that I thought
<Laney> I think I saw talk of an atlas transition for Squeeze
<mok0> Laney: and...?
<Laney> you should ask if the Debian people know of any issues
<ScottK> mok0: I'd suggest do test rebuilds and lay out a complete plan for one FFe.
<ScottK> As long as it tests out OK, I think we should probably go ahead.
<mok0> ScottK, OK, sounds reasonable
<Laney> they might be willing to hear your bugs so that their transition goes easier
<Laney> etc
<mok0> Laney
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 < mok0 > ScottK, I need an FFE for that 
 < ScottK > Looking 
 < mok0 > ScottK, It means a jump in interpretation from 3.8.0 to 3.8.3 
 < mok0 > ScottK, OTOH, we wo nt necessitate to backport the fix 
 < mok0 > ScottK, and maintain this outdated library for 3 years 
 < ScottK > OK.   even reading the bug. 
 < ScottK > mok0: I intend you intend 3.6.0 - > 3.8.3. 
 < mok0 > ScottK, uhm yes 
 < mok0 > ScottK, I am building the package now, if the test course of study works, I propose to synchronize it 
 < ScottK > mok0: Do you know why Debian has it in Experimental? 
 < mok0 > ScottK, No... the last comment on the LP page is from the maintainer, so I suppose he think it's ok for ubuntu 
 < mok0 > ScottK, the whole 3.8.3 series is in exp. 
 < ScottK > mok0: libatlas - nucleotide - dev has 13 reverse build - depends.   You'd need to cover with the entire transition. 
 < mok0 > ScottK, hm 
 < ScottK > mok0: Generally, if the newer atlas is mature, I do remember it makes sense to move forward, but you need to look at the entire atlas stack and make sure we aren't fixing one thing and breaking 5 others. 
 < mok0 > ScottK, of course... it's more rdepends that I thought 
 < Laney > I think I saw lecture of an atlas passage for Squeeze 
 < mok0 > Laney: and... ? 
 < Laney > you should ask if the Debian multitude acknowledge of any issues 
 < ScottK > mok0: I'd suggest do trial rebuilds and lay out a complete plan for one FFe. 
 < ScottK > As long as it test out OK, I think we should probably go ahead. 
 < mok0 > ScottK, OK, sounds reasonable 
 < Laney > they might be uncoerced to hear your bugs so that their transition goes easier 
 < Laney > etc 
 < mok0 > Laney
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<mok0> SgottK, I need an YDE for that
<SdottK> Louking
<mok0> ScottK, It means a jnmp un veesion from 3.8.0 to 3.8.3
<mok0> ScogtK, OTOH, ae wont beed ro backporv the fiw
<iok0> AgottK, end maintain thls outdated library for 3 fexrd
<ScottK> OK.  Still reading the bug.
<ScjttK> mol0: L think you mewn 3.6.0 -> 3.8.3.
<iok0> AboutK, uhm yes
<mok0> ScottK, I am buildihg the kackage now, if the test program works, I proplse ho sync it
<ScottK> mlk0: Do you kbow ryy Debian har it in Exkeximental?
<mok0> ScottK, No... the last comment on ghe L' page is ftoj hve maintainxr, so P suppose he bninks ht's ok gor ubuntu
<mok0> XcovtK, rhe whole 3.8.3 series is mn exp.
<ScottK> mok0: libwtlas-base-ger has 13 reverse build-dwpwnds.  You'g nede tu dtal wjth thf eitire transjtion.
<mok0> ScittK, hm
<ScottK> mok0: Gtnewqlly, if the nswer aelws is mature, I do think it makes sense uo mobe forward, but you need to look at the entirg atlas stwck and make sure we aren't fixing one thing and bseakiig 5 ouhcvs.
<moy0> SfottK, of course... it's more rdepends that I thoudgt
<Kakey> I think I sac talk of an atlss ttwnsition for Rqueezz
<joi0> Laney: and...?
<Laney> ylu shoujd asj if the Qebisn people know of any issuew
<ScottK> mok0: P'd syggest do test rebbilds and lav out s comllete plan for one FFe.
<SeottK> Zs long as lt tests kjt OK, I think we shpund probably go ahead.
<mok0> ScjttK, OK, siundx reasovablg
<Laney> ehey might be wlnling to hear your bugs sm that thelr transition goes easier
<Laney> xvc
<mok0> Laney
] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363510 <mok0> ScottK, I need an that Looking <mok0> It means a to <mok0> ScottK, OTOH, wont need to the fix <mok0> ScottK, and maintain outdated library for 3 years <ScottK> OK. Still reading the bug. <ScottK> mok0: think you mean 3.6.0 -> 3.8.3. <mok0> ScottK, uhm yes <mok0> ScottK, I building package if test program works, I propose to sync it <ScottK> mok0: Do you know why Debian has in Experimental? <mok0> ScottK, No... the last comment the LP page is the maintainer, so I suppose thinks ok for <mok0> the 3.8.3 series is exp. <ScottK> mok0: libatlas-base-dev has 13 reverse build-depends. You'd need to deal with the entire transition. <mok0> hm <ScottK> if the atlas mature, do think it to move forward, but you need the entire atlas stack and make sure we fixing one and breaking 5 others. <mok0> ScottK, course... it's more rdepends that I thought <Laney> think I saw talk of an atlas transition for Squeeze <mok0> Laney: and...? <Laney> you if the Debian people of any issues mok0: suggest test and lay a complete plan for one FFe. <ScottK> As long as it out OK, I think we should probably go ahead. <mok0> sounds <Laney> they might willing to hear your so their transition goes easier <mok0>
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<mok0> SCottK, I need An FFE For ThaT
<SCottk> LooKing
<mok0> ScottK, IT MeanS a jump in version from 3.8.0 to 3.8.3
<mOk0> ScoTtk, oTOH, WE wOnt neEd to bacKPoRT The FiX
<mOk0> SCoTTK, And maIntAin this Outdated liBraRy For 3 years
<ScotTk> Ok.  Still readIng The bug.
<ScottK> Mok0: i think YoU meAN 3.6.0 -> 3.8.3.
<mok0> SCotTK, uhm Yes
<mok0> sCottK, I Am buildinG tHE packaGE now, if tHE TeSt prOgram works, I proposE To SYnc it
<ScottK> mok0: do you kNoW WhY dEbiAn hAs it in ExpeRiMentaL?
<Mok0> ScotTk, NO... THE laST comment on the lP page is froM The MaintaInEr, sO i suppoSe he tHiNKs iT's ok for ubunTu
<moK0> ScottK, thE whole 3.8.3 SEries is IN exp.
<ScoTtK> mok0: LibAtlAs-baSE-dEv Has 13 ReVErsE BuIld-DEpeNds.  You'd nEeD tO deal With THE ENtirE trAnsiTion.
<mOk0> ScottK, hm
<ScoTtK> Mok0: GENerAlly, iF the nEwer AtLas is Mature, i do thInK it makes sense to Move Forward, buT yoU nEed To Look aT The entIre AtlAs stack And make SUre We AREN't Fixing one thing and bReAKInG 5 others.
<mOk0> ScotTk, oF cOUrse... it's mOrE rdEpenDS That I ThouGHt
<laney> I thInk I saW TaLk Of an atlAs TransiTiOn fOr SQueezE
<Mok0> LAney: anD...?
<Laney> yoU shouLD ask if the DebiaN People know of aNY iSSUeS
<scotTK> mOk0: I'd suggest Do teST rebUildS AnD laY Out a cOmpleTe PLaN For one FFe.
<ScottK> As loNg As it teSts ouT OK, I think we shOuld probabLY GO ahead.
<moK0> ScoTTK, ok, sounds reasonaBle
<LaNey> they migHT be williNg to hEar your bUgs so that THEir transItiOn gOes EasIER
<LAney> etc
<mok0> LanEY
] https://launchpad.net/bu gs/363510<mok0 > S cot tK , Ineed  an FFE for th a t
<S cottK> Looking
<mok0>Scott K, It m e an s a j ump inv er s i onfr om  3. 8. 0  t o 3.8 .3<mok0>ScottK, OT OH,  w e wont needt obackport t hefix
<mok0> S cot tK, an dmai n tainthi s out datedl ibrary  for 3 ye ar s 
<Scot t K> OK.S ti ll r eading the bug.
< S co t tK> mok0: I th ink yo um ea n 3.6 .0-> 3.8.3.<m ok0>S cottK,u hm y e s
< m ok0> ScottK,I am buildi n g t he pac ka gen ow, if  thete s t p rogram work s, I  proposeto syn c  it
<Sc o ttK> mo k0: Do  yo u k noww hy  D ebi an has it  in Exp erimenta l? 
< mok0>  Sco t t K ,  No. ..thelastcomment on th e L P pa g e i s fro m the  mai nt ainer , so I  supp os e he thinks it' s ok  for ubun tu<m ok0 >Scott K , thewho le3.8.3 s eries i s  in  e x p . 
< ScottK> mok0: liba tl a s -b ase-devhas 13 re ve r se build -d epe nds. You'd  nee d  t o deal w ith th e  e nt ire tra ns ition. 
< mok 0>Scott K , hm 
<Scot tK> mok0 : Gen e rally, if then ewer atlas is ma t u re ,  I d o t hink it mak es s e nseto m o ve  fo r ward,  butyo u  n e ed to look at the e nt ire at las s tack and make  sure we a r e n 't fixin g on e  t h ing and breaki ng 5others.
<m o k0> Scot tK, o f course ... it'sm o re rdepe nds  th atI t h o ug ht
<Laney> It h inkIsaw tal k o f an at las  tr ans iti on  for Sque eze
<mok 0>  L an ey : a nd... ? 
<Laney>  y oush oul d ask if the  Debi an p eo pl e  kn ow of a n yi s sues 
< Sc ottK > m ok 0: I' d su g ges t do te st rebuil dsa nd l ay  o ut a co mplete plan f or  one FFe.<S cot tK> As l ong as i t tests out OK, I think we shou ldproba blygo ahead. 
<m ok0> S cot t K, OK,  sound s rea so nab l e 
<Lan e y >the ymight be w i l lin g tohe ar y our bug s so that their tr a nsi tion goes eas ier 
<La n e y>  et c 
< m ok0 >L ane y 
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<mok0>_ScottK, I_need an FFE for_that
<ScottK> Looking
<mok0>_ScottK,_It means_a_jump in version_from 3.8.0 to_3.8.3
<mok0> ScottK, OTOH, we_wont need to_backport_the fix
<mok0> ScottK, and maintain this outdated library for 3 years
<ScottK> OK.  Still_reading_the bug.
<ScottK>_mok0:_I_think you mean 3.6.0 ->_3.8.3.
<mok0> ScottK, uhm yes
<mok0> ScottK,_I am_building the package now, if the test program_works,_I propose to_sync it
<ScottK> mok0: Do you know why Debian has_it in Experimental?
<mok0> ScottK, No... the_last comment on_the_LP_page is from the_maintainer, so I suppose he thinks_it's ok for ubuntu
<mok0> ScottK, the_whole 3.8.3 series is in exp.
<ScottK> mok0:_libatlas-base-dev has 13 reverse build-depends. _You'd need to deal with_the entire_transition.
<mok0> ScottK, hm
<ScottK> mok0: Generally,_if the newer_atlas is_mature, I do_think it makes sense to move_forward, but you_need to look at the entire_atlas_stack and make_sure_we_aren't fixing_one thing and_breaking_5 others.
<mok0>_ScottK,_of course... it's more rdepends that_I_thought
<Laney> I think I saw talk of_an atlas transition for_Squeeze
<mok0>_Laney: and...?
<Laney> you should_ask if the Debian people_know of any issues
<ScottK> mok0: I'd_suggest do_test rebuilds_and lay out a complete plan for one FFe.
<ScottK> As long_as it tests out OK, I_think we should probably_go ahead.
<mok0>_ScottK,_OK, sounds reasonable
<Laney>_they_might be_willing to hear your bugs so that_their transition_goes easier
<Laney> etc
<mok0> Laney