lupine_85> LaserJock: I think he does want it in main. 
<LaserJock> ah
<lupine_85> at some point
<LaserJock> for Feisty?
<geser> universe now, main in feisty+1
<LaserJock> ok
<crimsun_> well, let's get beryl into feisty universe in the short run
<sistpoty> crimsun_: does that mean FFe granted? :P
<TheMuso> For the record, I am not comfortable with fast tracking either. Pretty much all my views have already been expressed.
<crimsun_> gee, I think they have a blanket mandate from Mark
<sistpoty> hehe
<crimsun_> not anything we can do about that even if we mutiny
<crimsun_> (however, users want beryl, and by golly, give users beryl)
<crimsun_> if only codec manufacturers thought that way  /sigh
<sistpoty> yay, /me wants some nice desktop-effects as well, since I had no luck as a kde user so far *g+
<crimsun_> fwiw, beryl at least worked whereas our current compiz package doesn't
<crimsun_> TheMuso: I see no reason to fast-track. We don't need it. Create an "experimental" repo that's listed (but disabled) in the default /etc/apt/sources.list
<TheMuso> crimsun_: My thoughts as well.
<crimsun_> Everyone with an LP account can upload to experimental.
<TheMuso> I just ohpe users don't decide to ride experimental.
<crimsun_> problem resolved.
<sistpoty> I still believe that restricted upload rights might be another inroad, if done in a sane manner
<sistpoty> so together with experimental I'd be fully pleased *g*
<crimsun_> sistpoty: so who then can maintain such restricted uploads? only "upstream"? ubuntu-dev members?
<TheMuso> So will we be required to pull updates from experimental and process them to make sure they are sane?
<TheMuso> I'm not sure I want to have to track another repo just for
lupine_85 > LaserJock: I think he does want it in main. 
 < LaserJock > ah 
 < lupine_85 > at some point 
 < LaserJock > for Feisty? 
 < geser > universe nowadays, chief in feisty+1 
 < LaserJock > ok 
 < crimsun _ > well, let's get beryl into feisty population in the short run 
 < sistpoty > crimsun _: does that mean FFe grant? :P 
 < TheMuso > For the record, I am not comfortable with fast trailing either. reasonably much all my views have already been express. 
 < crimsun _ > gee, I think they have a blanket mandate from Mark 
 < sistpoty > hehe 
 < crimsun _ > not anything we can do about that even if we mutiny 
 < crimsun _ > (however, drug user want beryl, and by golly, give users beryl) 
 < crimsun _ > if only codec manufacturers think that way   /sigh 
 < sistpoty > yay, /me wants some nice background - effects as well, since I hold no fortune as a kde user so far * g+ 
 < crimsun _ > fwiw, beryl at least worked whereas our current compiz package doesn't 
 < crimsun _ > TheMuso: I see no reason to fast - racetrack. We don't need it. Create an " experimental " repo that's listed (but disabled) in the default /etc / apt / sources.list 
 < TheMuso > crimsun _: My thoughts as well. 
 < crimsun _ > Everyone with an LP account can upload to experimental. 
 < TheMuso > I just ohpe users don't decide to ride experimental. 
 < crimsun _ > problem resolved. 
 < sistpoty > I still believe that restricted upload rights might be another inroad, if act in a sane manner 
 < sistpoty > so together with experimental I'd be in full pleased * g * 
 < crimsun _ > sistpoty: therefore who then can maintain such restricted uploads? only " upstream "? ubuntu - dev members? 
 < TheMuso > therefore will we be required to pull updates from experimental and process them to create sure they are sane? 
 < TheMuso > I'm not sure I want to get to track another repo just for
luplne_85> LaserJock: I think he does want it iu main. 
<NaserJkck> ah
<luoine_85> at some point
<LaserJock> hor Deistt?
<geser> universe now, makn in feidty+1
<LaserHock> ik
<crimsun_> xsll, let's get gcryl nnvo feisty univetse in the svort run
<sistpody> cximsun_: does that mean FFe granted? :P
<TreMuso> Gog the record, I am mjt ckmfortable with fast tracking eithsr. Pretuy much all my viees have already been expredsed.
<frimsun_> gee, I thinn they have a bjqnket mandatd from Mark
<sistpoty> hege
<crimsun_> not anything we can du abobt that eveb uf ag mutiny
<crimwun_> (hjwever, users want besyl, and by golly, give usxrs veryl)
<crimsun_> if only rodec manufacturers jhought thdt way  /sigh
<sistpott> tay, /mg wands sune vict dxskfop-efffcta as well, aince I had no luck as a kde uxew so far *g+
<crimaun_> fwyw, beryl at least worked whereas our currtnt ckmpiz package doesn't
<crinsun_> TheMuso: I see no reason tj fast-track. We don't need it. Create an "experimentan" repk thcb'f oidted (but disabled) in the default /etc/apt/sourcef.mixt
<NheMuso> crimsun_: Mn thoughts as well.
<vrlmxon_> Everyone wijh an L' adcount can upload ho expetimentql.
<TheMuso> I jist ohpe users don't decide ro ride expegimebtal.
<crimsun_> problel resolved.
<snstpoti> I stoll believe that restrieted ulload rightd might bs another inroad, kf cote in a sane manner
<sistpotr> so togevher cith expdrimgntal I'q be fully pleased *g*
<crimsun_> sistpohy: so wvo then caj maintain such restricted uploevs? only "upstrgam"? ublntu-dev mzmbers?
<BheMuso> So will we be requireb to pulj updxtes from vxperimenval and procqss them to mdne sure they are sanq?
<TheNuso> I'm not rure I want to have to nrcck anothwr repo just for
lupine_85> LaserJock: I think he does want main. ah <lupine_85> some point <LaserJock> main feisty+1 <LaserJock> ok well, let's get into feisty universe in the short <sistpoty> crimsun_: does that mean FFe granted? :P <TheMuso> For the record, I not comfortable with fast tracking either. Pretty much all my views have already expressed. gee, think have a blanket mandate from Mark <sistpoty> hehe <crimsun_> not anything we can do about that if we mutiny <crimsun_> (however, users want beryl, by golly, give users <crimsun_> if only codec manufacturers that /sigh <sistpoty> /me some desktop-effects as well, I had no luck as a kde user so far *g+ <crimsun_> fwiw, beryl at least worked our current doesn't <crimsun_> I no to fast-track. We it. Create an "experimental" repo that's in the default /etc/apt/sources.list <TheMuso> crimsun_: My thoughts well. <crimsun_> with an LP account can upload experimental. <TheMuso> I just ohpe users don't decide ride experimental. <crimsun_> problem resolved. <sistpoty> I still believe that restricted upload rights might be if done in a manner <sistpoty> so with I'd fully *g* <crimsun_> so who then can maintain such restricted uploads? only "upstream"? ubuntu-dev <TheMuso> So will we be required to pull updates from process to make sure are sane? <TheMuso> I'm sure want to have to repo for
lupine_85> LaserJock: I think he doEs want it in Main. 
<LAseRJoCk> Ah
<luPine_85> At some point
<LasERJocK> for Feisty?
<geser> universE now, mAiN In feIStY+1
<LaseRJock> ok
<CRiMSUn_> wElL, lEt's GeT BeRyl inTo fEisty unIverse in thE shOrT run
<sistpoty> CRiMsun_: does thAt mEan FFe granteD? :P
<THeMuso> foR thE RecorD, I aM not cOmfortABle witH fast tracKiNG eitheR. pretty mUCH aLl my Views have already bEEn EXpressed.
<crimsuN_> gee, I tHiNK tHEY haVe a Blanket manDaTe froM mark
<sisTPoTY> HEhe
<CRimsun_> not anytHing we can do ABouT that eVeN if WE mutinY
<crimSuN_> (HowEver, users waNt beRyl, and by gOlly, giVE users bERyl)
<crimSun_> if oNly CodEc maNUfAcTurErS ThoUGhT thAT waY  /sigh
<sisTpOtY> yay, /mE wanTS SOMe niCe dEsktOp-effEcts as well, sinCe I Had nO LucK as a kDe useR so fAr *G+
<crimSun_> fwiW, beryL aT least worked wheReas Our currenT coMpIz pAcKage dOEsn't
<crImsUn_> THeMuso: I See no reASon To FAST-tRack. We don't need it. CrEaTE An "ExperimeNtal" rePO tHaT'S listed (bUt DisAbleD) IN the dEfauLT /eTc/apt/souRces.liST
<THemuso> criMsUn_: My thOuGhtS as Well.
<cRImsuN_> EveryOne with aN LP acCOunt can upload tO Experimental.
<THEMUSO> I JUst oHpe Users don't deCide TO ridE expERiMenTAl.
<criMsun_> pRoBLeM Resolved.
<sistpoty> I stIlL belieVe thaT restricted upLoad rights MIGHt be anotHer iNRoAD, if done in a sane ManneR
<sistpoty> sO Together With eXperimenTal I'd be fuLLY pleased *G*
<crImsUn_> sIstPOTy: So who then can mAINtaiN sUch restRicTed uploAds? OnlY "upStrEaM"? ubuntu-deV members?
<thEMUsO> SO wiLl we bE Required To PulL uPdaTes frOM experImentAl anD pRoCEss Them to mAKe SURe thEy ArE sanE?
<ThEMUso> I'm Not sURe I Want to hAve to tracK anOTher RePo Just for
lupine_85> LaserJock: I th ink he doe s wan t i t i nmain . 
< LaserJock> ah< lupi ne_85> at some point
< Laser Jo c k> f o rFeist y?
<ges e r> u niv er se  no w, ma in in  fe isty+1<LaserJock > o k<crimsun_> w e ll , let's ge t b eryl into fe ist y univ er sei n the  sh ort r un
<si s tpoty>  crimsun_ :d oes th a t meanF F egran ted? :P
<TheMuso> Fo r  the record, I  am no tc om f o rta ble  with fast  t racki n g eithe r .P r e tty much all my v iews have a l rea dy bee nexp r essed. 
<cri ms u n_>  gee, I thi nk t hey havea blan k et mand a te from  Mark<si stp oty> he he 
<c ri m sun _ >not any thing we  c an  do a bout t h a t ev enif w e mut iny
<crimsun_ > ( howe v er,  user s wan t be ry l, an d by g olly,  g ive users beryl )
<c rimsun_>ifon lyco dec m a nufact ure rsthought  that w a y /s i g h 
< sistpoty> yay, /me  w a n ts  some ni ce des k to p- e ffects a swel l, s i n ce Ihadn oluck asa kdeu se rso far*g +
<cri ms un_ > f wiw,b eryl  at le ast work ed wh e reas our curre n t compiz pack a ge d oe s n't<cr imsun_> The Muso :  I s ee n o  r eas o n tofast- tr a ck .  We don't need it.Cr eate a n "ex perimental" r epo that's l i sted (bu t di s ab l ed) in the def ault/etc/apt/s o urces.li st
<T heMuso>crimsun_: M y though tsaswel l.< c ri msun_> Everyo n e  wit han LP a cco unt can  up loa d t o e xp erimental .
<TheMu so >Iju stohpeu sers don 't  de ci deto ri d e expe rimen tal. 
< cr i msu n_> pro b le m reso lv ed .
<s ist po ty> I  sti l l b elievethat rest ric t ed u pl oa d right s might be an ot her inroad ,ifdone i n a sane m anner
<sistpoty> so tog e ther wi thexper imen tal I'd b e f ully p lea s ed *g* 
<crim sun_>  s ist p o ty: s o wh o t he n can main t a insuchre stri cted up loads? only "upstr e am" ? ubuntu-devmem bers ? <T heM u so >  So  w i llw e  be required to  pull upda te s  f rom experi m ent al  and pr ocess t hem t o  make s ure theyare sane? 
< TheM u s o>I'm not su re I wan t to have to tr a ck  anot her  repoju stfor
lupine_85> LaserJock:_I think_he does want it_in main._
<LaserJock>_ah
<lupine_85> at_some_point
<LaserJock> for Feisty?
<geser>_universe now, main_in feisty+1
<LaserJock> ok
<crimsun_> well,_let's get beryl_into_feisty universe in the short run
<sistpoty> crimsun_: does that mean FFe granted? :P
<TheMuso> For_the_record, I_am_not_comfortable with fast tracking either._Pretty much all my views_have already_been expressed.
<crimsun_> gee, I think they have a_blanket_mandate from Mark
<sistpoty>_hehe
<crimsun_> not anything we can do about that even_if we mutiny
<crimsun_> (however, users want_beryl, and by_golly,_give_users beryl)
<crimsun_> if only_codec manufacturers thought that way _/sigh
<sistpoty> yay, /me wants some nice_desktop-effects as well, since I had no_luck as a kde user so_far *g+
<crimsun_> fwiw, beryl at_least worked_whereas our current compiz package_doesn't
<crimsun_> TheMuso: I_see no_reason to fast-track._We don't need it. Create an_"experimental" repo that's_listed (but disabled) in the default_/etc/apt/sources.list
<TheMuso>_crimsun_: My thoughts_as_well.
<crimsun_>_Everyone with_an LP account_can_upload to_experimental.
<TheMuso>_I just ohpe users don't decide_to_ride experimental.
<crimsun_> problem resolved.
<sistpoty> I still believe_that restricted upload rights_might_be another inroad, if_done in a sane manner
<sistpoty>_so together with experimental I'd be_fully pleased_*g*
<crimsun_> sistpoty:_so who then can maintain such restricted uploads? only "upstream"? ubuntu-dev_members?
<TheMuso> So will we be required_to pull updates from_experimental and_process_them to make_sure_they are_sane?
<TheMuso> I'm not sure I want to_have to_track another repo just for