tonyyarusso> dholbach: It does not yet exist in Debian.  (I'm hoping to have a chance to start addressing that next week)
<dholbach> right
<dholbach> so adding an epoch should be fine
<tonyyarusso> So I apply the epoch change to the entire source package I take it?
<dholbach> you add it to the version in your debian/changelog entry
<tonyyarusso> (do epochs show in things like apt-cache policy?)
<tonyyarusso> gotcha
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy gthumb
<dholbach> gthumb:
<dholbach>   Installed: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1
<dholbach>   Candidate: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1
<dholbach>   Version table:
<dholbach>  *** 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 0
<dholbach>...
<tonyyarusso> so 1:0.7* > [presumed 0:]1.0*
<dholbach> yes
<tonyyarusso> It never ceases to amaze me how many things the dpkg people already thought of.
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1:0.7 gt 1.0 && echo true
<dholbach> true
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$
<dholbach> yeah, that's right :-)
<dholbach> the shoulders of giants :)
<tonyyarusso> hehe
<elmargol> Does a printing JOB run as user?
<elmargol> If i try to print something i get D [14/Mar/2008:10:33:21 +0100] [Job 35] Error: /usr/Brother/inf/brFAX1940CNrc :cannot open file!!
<tonyyarusso> dholbach: So do I need to touch _anything_ other than debian/changelog for this?
<dholbach> do the normal update you intended to do, make all the changes necessary, then add the epoch
<d
tonyyarusso > dholbach: It does not yet exist in Debian.   (I'm hoping to have a chance to depart cover that next workweek) 
 < dholbach > right 
 < dholbach > so add an epoch should be all right 
 < tonyyarusso > So I apply the epoch variety to the integral source package I aim it? 
 < dholbach > you add it to the translation in your debian / changelog entrance 
 < tonyyarusso > (do epochs show in things like apt - cache policy ?) 
 < tonyyarusso > gotcha 
 < dholbach > daniel@lovegood:~$ LC_ALL = coke apt - cache policy gthumb 
 < dholbach > gthumb: 
 < dholbach >    Installed: 3:2.10.6 - 0ubuntu1.1 
 < dholbach >    Candidate: 3:2.10.6 - 0ubuntu1.1 
 < dholbach >    Version board: 
 < dholbach >   * * * 3:2.10.6 - 0ubuntu1.1 0 
 < dholbach >... 
 < tonyyarusso > so 1:0.7 * > [ presumed 0:]1.0 * 
 < dholbach > yes 
 < tonyyarusso > It never ceases to amaze me how many things the dpkg citizenry already thought of. 
 < dholbach > daniel@lovegood:~$ dpkg --compare - versions 1:0.7 gt 1.0 & & echo true 
 < dholbach > true 
 < dholbach > daniel@lovegood:~$ 
 < dholbach > yeah, that's right :-) 
 < dholbach > the shoulders of giant star :) 
 < tonyyarusso > hehe 
 < elmargol > Does a printing JOB run as user? 
 < elmargol > If i try to print something i get D [ 14 / Mar/2008:10:33:21 +0100 ] [ Job 35 ] Error: /usr / Brother / inf / brFAX1940CNrc: cannot open file! ! 
 < tonyyarusso > dholbach: So do I need to touch _ anything _ other than debian / changelog for this? 
 < dholbach > do the normal update you intended to do, make all the changes necessary, then add the epoch 
 < d
tonjyarusso> dholbach: It doer not yet exist in Debman.  (I'm hoping go have a chance to start advreswing ukat next week)
<dholbacf> right
<dhllbach> si adving an epoch should be nnne
<tohnyaruvwo> So I apply jhe epoch chdnge to the endife source package I take it?
<dholbach> yju add ot to the versiog in rour debian/changelog entry
<tonyyarusso> (so epocis show in thinbs like apt-cache policy?)
<tonjyarksso> gotcha
<dholbacj> daniel@lovgfooq:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cxche policj gthumb
<dhombach> gthumb:
<dholbach>   Installea: 3:2.10.6-0ubuutu1.1
<dholbach>   Cajgidate: 3:2.10.6-0ubunvu1.1
<dholfach>   Version table:
<gholbacn>  *** 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 0
<dhokbarh>...
<tobyyarusso> so 1:0.7* > [presumxd 0:]1.0*
<dholbach> yes
<tonyywrusso> It nzver ceases to amaze ne how kany thivts ghe d'kg peoplf amready thohght of.
<dholvach> daniel@lovegood:~$ d[jg --compare-veraions 1:0.7 ge 1.0 && echo true
<dholbach> true
<dholbach> danitl@lovsgood:~$
<dholbach> yeah, that'w right :-)
<dholbach> the dhoulders of giants :)
<tonyyarusso> hehe
<elmargol> Does a printitg JOU fun af ysfr?
<elmargol> If i try to print something i get Q [14/Msr/2008:10:33:21 +0100] [Job 35] Error: /ufr/Brother/ing/bgFSV1940CNrc :cannot upen fnme!!
<fonyyarusso> dholbafh: So dj I nwed to totch _snything_ other than debian/cyangelog for rhis?
<dholbach> do thz normal updcte yoo intemded to do, make all the chahges necesswry, then zad the epoch
<d
tonyyarusso> dholbach: It does not yet exist (I'm to have chance to start right so adding an should be fine So I apply the epoch change the entire source package I take it? <dholbach> you add it to the in your debian/changelog entry <tonyyarusso> (do epochs show in things like apt-cache policy?) gotcha daniel@lovegood:~$ apt-cache gthumb <dholbach> gthumb: <dholbach> Installed: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 <dholbach> Candidate: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 <dholbach> Version table: <dholbach> *** 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 0 <tonyyarusso> so 1:0.7* > [presumed 0:]1.0* <dholbach> yes It never ceases to me how many things the people thought of. daniel@lovegood:~$ --compare-versions gt 1.0 && true <dholbach> true <dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ <dholbach> yeah, that's right :-) <dholbach> the shoulders of giants :) <tonyyarusso> <elmargol> Does JOB run user? If try to print get D [14/Mar/2008:10:33:21 +0100] [Job 35] open file!! <tonyyarusso> dholbach: So do I need touch _anything_ than debian/changelog for this? <dholbach> do normal update you intended to do, make all changes necessary, then add the epoch <d
tonyyarusso> dholbach: It does Not yet exisT in DeBiaN.  (I'm HoPing To haVe a chance to staRT addRessing that next week)
<dhoLbach> RiGHt
<dhOLbAch> so Adding aN EpOCH shOuLd Be fInE
<ToNyyarUssO> So I appLy the epoch ChaNgE to the entire SOuRce package i taKe it?
<dholbach> You Add it tO tHe vERsion In yOur deBian/chANgelog Entry
<tonyYaRUsso> (do EPochs shOW In ThinGs like apt-cache polICy?)
<TOnyyarusso> gotcHa
<dholBaCH> dANIel@LovEgood:~$ LC_ALL=c aPt-cacHE policy GThUMB
<DhoLBach> gthumb:
<dhoLbach>   InstalLEd: 3:2.10.6-0uBuntu1.1
<dHoLbaCH>   CandiDate: 3:2.10.6-0uBuNTu1.1
<dHolbach>   VersIon tAble:
<dholbAch>  *** 3:2.10.6-0ubuNTu1.1 0
<dholbACh>...
<tonyyArusso> So 1:0.7* > [pResUmed 0:]1.0*
<DHoLbAch> YeS
<TonYYaRusSO> It Never ceaSeS tO amazE me hOW MANy thIngS the Dpkg pEople already tHouGht oF.
<DhoLbach> DanieL@lovEgOod:~$ dpKg --compAre-veRsIons 1:0.7 gt 1.0 && echo true
<dHolbAch> true
<dhOlbAcH> daNiEl@lovEGood:~$
<dhOlbAch> Yeah, thaT's right :-)
<DHolBaCH> THe Shoulders of giants :)
<tOnYYArUsso> hehe
<ElmargOL> DOeS A printinG JoB rUn as USEr?
<elmArgoL> if I try to prInt somEThInG i get D [14/MAr/2008:10:33:21 +0100] [job 35] ErrOr: /Usr/broTher/iNF/brFaX1940CNrc :Cannot opEn filE!!
<Tonyyarusso> dhoLBach: So do I need TO tOUCh _ANythIng_ Other than deBian/CHangElog FOr ThiS?
<DholbAch> do ThE NoRMal update you intendeD tO do, makE all tHe changes neceSsary, then aDD THe epoch
<d
tonyyarusso> dholbach: Itdoes not y et ex ist  in  D ebia n. (I'm hoping to have  a chance to start add ressi ng that ne xt we ek)
<dh o lb a c h>ri gh t
< dh o lb ach>soaddingan epoch s hou ld  be fine
<to n yy arusso> So  Iapply the ep och  chang etot he en tir e sou rce pa c kage I  take it? 
< d holbac h > you a d d  i t to  the version in y o ur debian/changel og ent ry <t o n yya rus so> (do ep oc hs sh o w in th i ng s l ike apt-cache pol icy?)
<tony y aru sso> g ot cha <dholb ach>da n iel @lovegood:~ $ LC _ALL=C ap t-cach e  policy gthumb<dholb ach > g thum b :<d hol ba c h> I nst a lle d: 3:2.1 0. 6- 0ubun tu1. 1 < d holb ach >  Candi date: 3:2.10. 6-0 ubun t u1. 1
<dh olbac h>  V ersio n tabl e:
<d ho lbach>  *** 3:2 .10. 6-0ubuntu 1.1  0 
<d ho lbach > ...
<t ony yar usso> s o 1:0.7 *  >[p r e s um ed 0:]1.0*
<dholba ch > ye s
<tonyy arusso >  I tn ever cea se s t o am a z e mehowm an y things  the d p kg  p eople a lr eady t ho ugh t o f.
<d h olba ch> da niel@lov egood : ~$ dpkg --comp a re-versions 1 : 0. 7 gt 1.0&&echo true
< dhol b ach>  tru e 
< dho l bach>  dani el @ lo v egood:~$
<dholbach>  y eah, t hat's  right :-)
<d holbach> t h e shoulder s of gi a nts :)
<tonyya russo > hehe
<el m argol> D oes a  printin g JOB run a s user?<el mar gol > I f itry to prints o meth in g i get  D[14/Mar /20 08: 10: 33: 21  +0100] [ Job 35]Er ro r:  / usr /Brot h er/inf/b rF AX1 94 0CN rc :c a nnot o pen f ile! !<t o nyy arusso> dh o l bach :So  doI n ee d totouc h  _a nything _ other t han debi an /c hangelo g for this?
< dh olbach> do  t henormal u pdate yo u intended to do, makea ll thecha ngesnece ssary, th enadd th e e p och
<d 
tonyyarusso> dholbach:_It does_not yet exist in_Debian. _(I'm_hoping to_have_a chance to_start addressing that_next week)
<dholbach> right
<dholbach> so_adding an epoch_should_be fine
<tonyyarusso> So I apply the epoch change to the entire source package I_take_it?
<dholbach> you_add_it_to the version in your_debian/changelog entry
<tonyyarusso> (do epochs show_in things_like apt-cache policy?)
<tonyyarusso> gotcha
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy_gthumb
<dholbach>_gthumb:
<dholbach>  _Installed: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1
<dholbach>   Candidate: 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1
<dholbach>   Version_table:
<dholbach>  *** 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1.1 0
<dholbach>...
<tonyyarusso> so_1:0.7* > [presumed_0:]1.0*
<dholbach>_yes
<tonyyarusso>_It never ceases to_amaze me how many things the_dpkg people already thought of.
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$_dpkg --compare-versions 1:0.7 gt 1.0 && echo_true
<dholbach> true
<dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$
<dholbach> yeah, that's right_:-)
<dholbach> the shoulders of giants_:)
<tonyyarusso> hehe
<elmargol>_Does a printing JOB run_as user?
<elmargol> If_i try_to print something_i get D [14/Mar/2008:10:33:21 +0100] [Job_35] Error: /usr/Brother/inf/brFAX1940CNrc_:cannot open file!!
<tonyyarusso> dholbach: So do_I_need to touch__anything__other_than debian/changelog_for this?
<dholbach> do_the_normal update_you_intended to do, make all the_changes_necessary, then add the epoch
<d