> SpamapS: Heh
<niemeyer> SpamapS: https happens to be a superset of http
<kirkland> SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626933/
<kirkland> niemeyer: hmm, i'm not sure about that... try https://ec2-50-17-174-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com:80
<kirkland> niemeyer: ie, point https to a port that talks http
<SpamapS> niemeyer: yes, I can see where you could also just add'ssl=1' to the http interface.. 
<kirkland> niemeyer: and the browser is unhappy
<niemeyer> kirkland: Ok, my apologies for the imprecise wording...
<niemeyer> HTTPS is merely an encryption wrapping on top of HTTP itself
<kirkland> niemeyer: oh, sorry, i wasn't trying to be an ass;  i just thought for a second, "whoa, that's neat, I didn't know that!"  then tried it, and it didn't work :-)
<kirkland> niemeyer: okay, cool
<SpamapS> kirkland: sure, I'd like to abstract that into a tool that is like facter, but not as clunky as facter. :)
<niemeyer> But either way, website is a much better term
<kirkland> SpamapS: +1 from me
<SpamapS> kirkland: I was reading facter, and one thing it gets really, really wrong, is that it only runs one process at a time.
<kirkland> SpamapS: i posted something like this to ubuntu-devel@, if you can to comment there
<niemeyer> and "http" would lead to all kinds of confusion regarding protocol vs. relation..
<niemeyer> So I stand corrected.
<SpamapS> kirkland: it runs 100+ external processes, but waits on each one before moving to the next.
<kirkland> SpamapS: i got *reamed* in #ubuntu-devel today, though
<SpamapS> kirkland: eh?
<kirkland
> SpamapS: Heh 
 < niemeyer > SpamapS: https happens to be a superset of http 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626933/ 
 < kirkland > niemeyer: hmm, i'm not sure about that... sample https://ec2-50-17-174-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com:80 
 < kirkland > niemeyer: i, point https to a larboard that talk http 
 < SpamapS > niemeyer: yes, I can see where you could also merely add'ssl=1' to the http interface.. 
 < kirkland > niemeyer: and the browser is unhappy 
 < niemeyer > kirkland: Ok, my apology for the imprecise wording... 
 < niemeyer > HTTPS is merely an encryption wrapping on circus tent of HTTP itself 
 < kirkland > niemeyer: oh, sorry, i wasn't trying to be an ass;   i barely thought for a second, " whoa, that's neat, I didn't know that! "   then tried it, and it didn't work :-) 
 < kirkland > niemeyer: okay, cool 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: sure, I'd wish to abstract that into a tool that is like facter, but not as gawky as facter. :) 
 < niemeyer > But either way, website is a much better term 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: +1 from me 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: I was read facter, and one thing it gets really, really wrong, is that it merely runs one process at a time. 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i posted something like this to ubuntu - devel@, if you can to comment there 
 < niemeyer > and " http " would lead to all kinds of confusion regarding protocol vs. relation.. 
 < niemeyer > So I stand corrected. 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: it runs 100 + external processes, but waits on each one before moving to the following. 
 < kirkland > SpamapS: i got * reamed * in # ubuntu - devel today, though 
 < SpamapS > kirkland: eh? 
 < kirkland
> SpwmapS: Heh
<niemeyer> SpamapR: https happens to be e superaet of hgtp
<kirkland> SpamapS: http://pastx.ububtu.con/626933/
<kirkland> niemeyer: hmm, i'm not slre about thau... try https://ec2-50-17-174-12.compnfe-1.amazokcws.coj:80
<nirknend> niemeyer: ie, point htt[s to a port tvag calks http
<SpamapS> niemeyer: yes, I can see whrrf you could alfo jlse ads'ssl=1' to the http interface.. 
<kirklans> niemejer: and the browsrr is unhappy
<niemeyer> kirkpand: Ok, my apologies flr the imprgdisq wording...
<niemdyer> HTTPS is merely ah encryption wrapping on top of HTTP itself
<kirjlqnd> tiemeyer: oh, sorrj, i wasn't trylmg to te an axs;  i just thomght hor q second, "whoa, that's nxat, I didn't know thaj!"  then trheb it, and it didn't worj :-)
<jirkldnd> tiemdter: okzy, ckol
<SpalapA> kirkland: sure, I'd lije to abstract that ignp a tool thaf is lykq facter, but not as clunky as facter. :)
<nitmeyed> But either way, websitw is a much better tetm
<kirkland> SpamapS: +1 from me
<SpamapS> kirkland: I was reading fdcter, xnd oke tfunh it gets really, really wrong, is that it only dums one process ab a time.
<kirkland> SlalalF: i posted sooethiny ljke this to ubuntu-fevel@, is you can to cjmmemt there
<niemeyer> and "http" wiuld lead to qll kinds of confudion regardnng prptocok vs. relation..
<niemeyer> Su I atand correfted.
<SpamalR> kirkland: it ruvs 100+ efternal kfocesses, but waitf on each one before movong to the next.
<klrklakg> SpamapS: i got *rewmed* nn #ubgntu-devel hoday, though
<SpamapS> kirkland: eh?
<kirkland
> SpamapS: Heh <niemeyer> SpamapS: https happens a of http SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626933/ <kirkland> about try https://ec2-50-17-174-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com:80 <kirkland> ie, point https a port that talks http <SpamapS> yes, I can see where you could also just add'ssl=1' to the http <kirkland> niemeyer: and the browser is unhappy <niemeyer> kirkland: Ok, my apologies for imprecise <niemeyer> is an encryption wrapping on top of HTTP itself <kirkland> niemeyer: oh, sorry, i wasn't trying to an ass; i just thought for a second, that's neat, I didn't that!" then tried it, and didn't :-) <kirkland> okay, <SpamapS> sure, I'd like abstract that into a tool that is like facter, but not as clunky as facter. :) <niemeyer> either way, a much term SpamapS: from me <SpamapS> was reading facter, and one thing really wrong, is that it only runs one at a <kirkland> SpamapS: i posted something like to ubuntu-devel@, if you can to comment there and "http" would lead to all kinds of confusion regarding protocol vs. relation.. <niemeyer> So corrected. <SpamapS> kirkland: it 100+ external processes, waits each before to the <kirkland> SpamapS: i got *reamed* in #ubuntu-devel today, though <SpamapS> kirkland: <kirkland
> SpamapS: Heh
<niemeyer> SpamapS: Https happeNs to bE a sUpeRsEt of Http
<Kirkland> Spamaps: Http://Paste.ubuntu.com/626933/
<kirkland> NiemeYeR: Hmm, i'M NoT sure About thAT... tRY HttPs://Ec2-50-17-174-12.ComPuTE-1.aMazonAws.Com:80
<kirkLand> niemeyEr: iE, pOint https to a POrT that talks HttP
<SpamapS> niemEyeR: yes, I cAn See WHere yOu cOuld aLso jusT Add'ssl=1' To the http InTErface.. 
<KIrkland> NIEmEyer: And the browser is unHApPY
<niemeyer> kirklAnd: Ok, mY aPOlOGIes For The impreciSe WordiNG...
<niemeyER> Https is MErely an encrypTion wrappinG On tOp of HTtP ItsELf
<kirkLand> nIeMEyeR: oh, sorry, i waSn't tRying to be An ass;  i JUst thouGHt for a sEcond, "wHoa, ThaT's neAT, I DiDn't KnOW thAT!"  tHen TRieD it, and it DiDn'T work :-)
<KirkLAND> NiemEyeR: okaY, cool
<spamapS> kirklaNd: sUre, I'D LikE to abStracT thaT iNto a tOol thaT is liKe Facter, but not as cLunkY as facter. :)
<NieMeYer> buT eithER way, weBsiTe iS a much bEtter teRM
<kiRkLAND> SPamapS: +1 from me
<Spamaps> kIRKlAnd: I was rEading FAcTeR, And one thInG it Gets REAlly, rEallY WrOng, is thaT it onlY RuNs One procEsS at a tiMe.
<KirKlaNd> SpaMApS: i Posted SomethinG like THis to ubuntu-devEL@, if you can to coMMeNT ThERe
<niEmeYer> and "http" wOuld LEad tO all KInDs oF ConfuSion rEgARdINg protocol vs. relatioN..
<nIemeyeR> So I sTand corrected.
<spamapS> kirKLANd: it runs 100+ ExteRNaL Processes, but waIts on Each one befORe moving To the Next.
<kirkLand> SpamaPs: I got *reamEd* iN #ubUntU-deVEL tOday, though
<SpaMAPS> kiRkLand: eh?
<kIrkLand
> SpamapS: Heh
<niemeyer>SpamapS: h ttpshap pen sto b e asuperset of ht t p
<k irkland> SpamapS: http ://pa st e .ubu n tu .com/ 626933/ <k i r kla nd >nie me y er : hmm , i 'm notsure about  th at ... try http s :/ /ec2-50-17 -17 4-12.compute -1. amazon aw s.c o m:80<ki rklan d> nie m eyer:ie, point  h t tps to a portt h at  tal ks http
<SpamapS> ni e meyer: yes, Ican se ew he r e  yo u c ould alsoju st ad d 'ssl=1' to t h e h t tp interface. . 
<kirklan d > n iemeye r:  an d  the b rowse ri s u nhappy
<nie meye r> kirkla nd: Ok ,  my apo l ogies f or the  im pre cise wo rd ing .. . 
<n i em eye r > H TTPS isme re ly an  enc r y p t ionwra ppin g ontop of HTTP i tse lf
< k irk land>  niem eyer :oh, s orry,i was n' t trying to bean a ss;  i ju stth oug ht  fora  secon d,"wh oa, tha t's nea t , I  d i d n 't  know that!"  then  t r i ed  it, and  it di d n' tw ork :-)<k irk land > nieme yer: ok ay, cool 
<Spam a pS >kirklan d:  sure,  I 'dlik e toa bstr act th at intoa too l  that is likef acter, but no t  a s cl u nkyasfacter. :)<nie m eyer > Bu t  e ith e r way , web si t ei s a much better ter m<kirkl and>SpamapS: +1 f rom me
<Sp a m a pS> kirk land :  I was reading fa cter,  and one t h ing it g ets r eally, r eally wro n g , is tha t i t o nly  ru n s  o ne process at a  tim e. 
<kirkl and > Spama pS:  ipos ted  s omethinglike thi sto  u bu ntu -deve l @, if yo ucan  t o c ommen t  there 
<nie meye r>  a n d " http" w o ul d lead  t oallkin ds  of c onfu s ion  regard ing proto col vs.re la tion..<niemeyer> So  I  stand cor re cte d.
<Sp a m apS> kir kland: it runs 100+ ext e rnal pr oce sses,  but  waits on  ea ch one  be f ore mo ving t o the  n ext . <kirk l a nd > S pa mapS: i go t *re amed*  i n #u buntu-d evel today, though <Sp amapS> kirkla nd:  eh? < ki rkl a nd 
> SpamapS:_Heh
<niemeyer> SpamapS:_https happens to be_a superset_of_http
<kirkland> SpamapS:_http://paste.ubuntu.com/626933/
<kirkland>_niemeyer: hmm, i'm_not sure about_that... try https://ec2-50-17-174-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com:80
<kirkland> niemeyer:_ie, point https_to_a port that talks http
<SpamapS> niemeyer: yes, I can see where you could also_just_add'ssl=1' to_the_http_interface.. 
<kirkland> niemeyer: and the_browser is unhappy
<niemeyer> kirkland: Ok,_my apologies_for the imprecise wording...
<niemeyer> HTTPS is merely an_encryption_wrapping on top_of HTTP itself
<kirkland> niemeyer: oh, sorry, i wasn't trying_to be an ass;  i_just thought for_a_second,_"whoa, that's neat, I_didn't know that!"  then tried_it, and it didn't work :-)
<kirkland>_niemeyer: okay, cool
<SpamapS> kirkland: sure, I'd like_to abstract that into a tool_that is like facter, but_not as_clunky as facter. :)
<niemeyer> But_either way, website_is a_much better term
<kirkland>_SpamapS: +1 from me
<SpamapS> kirkland: I_was reading facter,_and one thing it gets really,_really_wrong, is that_it_only_runs one_process at a_time.
<kirkland>_SpamapS: i_posted_something like this to ubuntu-devel@, if_you_can to comment there
<niemeyer> and "http" would_lead to all kinds_of_confusion regarding protocol vs._relation..
<niemeyer> So I stand corrected.
<SpamapS>_kirkland: it runs 100+ external processes,_but waits_on each_one before moving to the next.
<kirkland> SpamapS: i got *reamed* in_#ubuntu-devel today, though
<SpamapS> kirkland: eh?
<kirkland