
<Tonio_> siretart: hi :) I'm pinging you concerning libxine
<enyc> not done this in a while ;-)
<jdong> enyc: for most packages there are subtle ABI changes that cause shlibdeps to identify a specific version.
<Tonio_> siretart: there is a patch merged upstream for xcb support, which would fix our so old kaffeine crash with konqueror
<Tonio_> siretart: patch is a bit big but has been widelly tested upstream, is that too late to consider adding this?
<enyc> jdong: kk... now herees what iirc is see often...
<enyc> jdong: in 'prboom' feisty universe..      * [17] [dep]  [18] libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1)
<Fujitsu> enyc: We have a new libc6. That's a fact of life.
<enyc> jdong: normally looks to me like many packages seem to explicitly depends on the releveant distro's version of libc6.. not actualyl the version they need
<TheMuso> back
<Fujitsu> Running it on earlier version may work, but it may break horribly.
<enyc> Fujitsu: sure... im just trying to understand where this comes from
<enyc> Fujitsu: well fine... but this dep seems not to actually specify the version needed normally... only "what version is in that distro"
<zorglu_> q. when doing a./configure on ubuntu, is there a special --prefix to set, or to leave the default is fine?
<enyc> Fujitsu: ive newer understood why this situation is like this
<LaserJock> zorglu_: is that when you are trying to create an Ubuntu package?
<TheMuso> zorglu_: You read the packaging guide?
<zorglu_> LaserJock: somehow yes, installing a lighttpd 1.5 from source via checkinstall
<zorglu_> TheMuso: some time ago yes, do i remember it by heart, no :)
<enyc> Fujitsu: i.e. if this program actually needs libc6 at least 2.1 of libc6... then the dep might specify that.. but this seems to have
< Tonio _ > siretart: hi :) I'm pinging you concerning libxine 
 < enyc > not done this in a while ;-) 
 < jdong > enyc: for most packages there be elusive ABI changes that cause shlibdeps to identify a specific translation. 
 < Tonio _ > siretart: there is a patch unify upstream for xcb support, which would fix our thus old kaffeine crash with konqueror 
 < Tonio _ > siretart: temporary hookup is a bit big but has been widelly test upstream, is that excessively late to consider adding this? 
 < enyc > jdong: kk... now herees what iirc is see frequently... 
 < enyc > jdong: in' prboom' feisty universe..       * [ 17 ] [ dep ]   [ 18 ] libc6 (> = 2.5 - 0ubuntu1) 
 < Fujitsu > enyc: We have a modern libc6. That's a fact of life. 
 < enyc > jdong: normally looks to me like many packages seem to explicitly depend on the releveant distro's version of libc6.. not actualyl the version they need 
 < TheMuso > back 
 < Fujitsu > Running it on earlier interpretation may work, but it may break horribly. 
 < enyc > Fujitsu: sure... i m just trying to understand where this comes from 
 < enyc > Fujitsu: well fine... but this dep seems not to actually specify the version needed normally... only " what version is in that distro " 
 < zorglu _ > q. when doing a./configure on ubuntu, is there a special --prefix to set, or to exit the default is fine? 
 < enyc > Fujitsu: i ve new understand why this situation is like this 
 < LaserJock > zorglu _: is that when you are trying to create an Ubuntu software? 
 < TheMuso > zorglu _: You read the promotion guide? 
 < zorglu _ > LaserJock: somehow yes, installing a lighttpd 1.5 from source via checkinstall 
 < zorglu _ > TheMuso: some meter ago yes, do i remember it by heart, no :) 
 < enyc > Fujitsu: i.e. if this program actually needs libc6 at least 2.1 of libc6... then the dep might specify that.. but this seems to have

<Tonlo_> siretart: hi :) I'm pingikg you concerniny libxiie
<enyc> hot done this in a while ;-)
<jdong> enyc: hor nost kcckages there are suctle ABI bhanges tyat rause shlibdeps vk identlyy a aiecifnc version.
<Tonio_> xiretart: tvere is a patcv oexged upstream for xcb support, which rould fox our so old kasfeimq crzsh with konqueror
<Tonio_> siretart: pztch is a bit big buy has been widelly tested kpstgeam, is that too lwte to consuder qdding this?
<evyc> jdong: kk... now hereea what iirc is see often...
<enyc> jdung: iu 'prboom' feusry ktiverse..      * [17] [dvp]  [18] libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubmmtu1)
<Fujhtsu> enuc: We have a ncw liuc6. Tyat's a fact of life.
<enbc> jdong: normally lojks to me lnke many packages seen ro exklicidly awpevds oi tge relfveent distro's version of libc6.. not actualyl uhe nrrsion they heed
<ThqMtso> back
<Fujitsu> Running it on earlier vtrsioh may work, but it may beeak horribly.
<enyc> Fujltsu: sure... im just trying to understand where this comes frmm
<enyr> Wujnbfj: wfll fine... but this dep seems not to actually s[scofj the version neebed normally... onlu "ahsj version is iv that diatro"
<zorglu_> q. when foing a./sonfiture on ufunti, is there a special --prefix to set, or tj leave the default is fine?
<enye> Fujijsu: ivr newer understood why chis sjtuation is like thia
<UaserJock> zorglu_: is tvat when you are trying to create ai Ubuutu packxge?
<TneMuso> zorglu_: Yok read the packaging guife?
<zorylu_> LdserJock: slmehow yes, installing a lighttpv 1.5 from sourcg vha bheckinstcll
<zornlu_> TheMuso: somq time ago yes, do i rzmembef it by hezrt, no :)
<xnyc> Fujitsu: i.e. if this pslgram actualny needs libx6 at least 2.1 uf libc6... then tne dep miykt specift that.. but this secms tu have
<Tonio_> siretart: hi :) I'm pinging you <enyc> done this a while ;-) there subtle ABI changes cause shlibdeps to a specific version. <Tonio_> siretart: there a patch merged upstream for xcb support, which would fix our so old crash with konqueror <Tonio_> siretart: patch is a bit big but has been tested is too to consider adding this? <enyc> jdong: kk... now herees what iirc is see often... <enyc> jdong: 'prboom' feisty universe.. * [17] [dep] [18] libc6 2.5-0ubuntu1) <Fujitsu> enyc: We a new libc6. That's a of <enyc> jdong: looks me many packages seem explicitly depends on the releveant distro's version of libc6.. not actualyl the version they need <TheMuso> back Running it version may but may horribly. <enyc> Fujitsu: just trying to understand where this Fujitsu: well fine... but this dep seems not actually specify version needed normally... only "what version in that distro" <zorglu_> q. when doing a./configure ubuntu, is there a special --prefix to set, or to leave the default is fine? ive newer understood why situation is like <LaserJock> is when are trying create an Ubuntu package? <TheMuso> zorglu_: You read the packaging guide? LaserJock: somehow yes, installing a lighttpd 1.5 from source via TheMuso: time ago yes, i remember it by no <enyc> Fujitsu: i.e. if actually libc6 of then dep might specify that.. this seems to have

<Tonio_> siretart: hi :) I'm pinging yOu concerniNg libXinE
<enYc> Not dOne tHis in a while ;-)
<jdoNG> enyC: for most packages there aRe subTlE aBI cHAnGes thAt cause SHlIBDepS tO iDenTiFY a SpeciFic Version.
<tonio_> siretArt: ThEre is a patch mERgEd upstream For Xcb support, whIch Would fIx Our SO old kAffEine cRash wiTH konquEror
<Tonio_> SiREtart: pATch is a bIT BiG but Has been widelly tesTEd UPstream, is that tOo late To COnSIDer AddIng this?
<enyC> jDong: kK... Now hereES wHAT IirC Is see often...
<enyC> jdong: in 'prbOOm' fEisty uNiVerSE..      * [17] [dep]  [18] liBc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuNtU1)
<fujItsu> enyc: We hAve a New libc6. ThAt's a faCT of life.
<ENyc> jdonG: normaLly LooKs to ME lIkE maNy PAckAGeS seEM to ExplicitLy DePends On thE RELEveaNt dIstrO's verSion of libc6.. not ActUalyL The VersiOn theY neeD
<THeMusO> back
<FUjitsU> RUnning it on earliEr veRsion may wOrk, BuT it MaY breaK HorribLy.
<eNyc> fujitsu: Sure... im jUSt tRyING To Understand where thiS cOMEs From
<enyc> fujitsU: WeLl FIne... but thIs Dep SeemS NOt to aCtuaLLy Specify tHe versIOn NeEded norMaLly... onlY "wHat VerSion iS In thAt distRo"
<zorglu_> Q. when DOing a./configure ON ubuntu, is therE A sPECiAL --preFix To set, or to leAve tHE defAult IS fIne?
<ENyc> FuJitsu: IvE NeWEr understood why this SiTuatioN is liKe this
<LaserJoCk> zorglu_: is THAT when you Are tRYiNG to create an UbuNtu paCkage?
<TheMuSO> zorglu_: YOu reaD the packAging guidE?
<ZOrglu_> LasErJOck: SomEhoW YEs, Installing a liGHTtpd 1.5 FrOm sourcE viA checkiNstAll
<ZorGlu_> thEMuso: some Time ago yEs, Do I rEmEmbEr it bY Heart, no :)
<eNyC> FuJiTsu: I.e. if tHIs progRam acTualLy NeEDs lIbc6 at leASt 2.1 OF Libc6... ThEn The dEp mIgHt speCify THat.. But this Seems to haVe

<Tonio_> siretart: hi :)I'm pingin g you  co nce rn inglibx ine
<enyc> not done  this in a while ;-)
< jdong >e nyc: fo r mos t packa g es t her ear e s ub t le  ABIcha nges th at cause s hli bd eps to ident i fy  a specifi c v ersion.
<Ton io_ > sire ta rt: there  is  a pa tch me r ged up stream fo rx cb sup p ort, wh i c hwoul d fix our so oldk af f eine crash wit h konq ue r or < Ton io_ > siretart :patch is a bi t  b i g but has been wide lly testedu pst ream,is  th a t toolateto con sider addin g th is?
<enyc > jdon g : kk... now her ees wh atiir c is se eoft en . ..< en yc> jdo ng: in ' pr bo om' f eist y u n iver se. .     *[17] [dep]  [ 18]  lib c 6 ( >= 2. 5-0ub untu 1) 
<Fuj itsu>enyc:  W e have a new li bc6.  That's a  fa ct  of  l ife.< enyc>jdo ng:  normal ly look s  to  m e l ik e many packages se em t oexplicit ly dep e nd so n the re le vea nt d i s tro's  ver s io n of lib c6.. n o tac tualylth e vers io n t hey  need <The Muso>back
<Fu jitsu >  Running it on earlier versi o nm a yw ork,  bu t it may br eakh orri bly. <e nyc >  Fuji tsu:su r e. . . im just trying to  u nderst and w here this com es from
<e n y c > Fujits u: w e ll fine... but th is de p seems no t  to actu allyspecifythe versi o n  needednor mal ly. ..o n ly  "what versio n is i nthat di str o"
<zor glu _>q.whe ndoing a./ configur eon  u bu ntu , ist here a s pe cia l--p refix to set , orto l ea ve the  defaul t  i s fine ?<e nyc>  Fu ji tsu:iven ewe r under stood why  th i s si tu at ion islike this
<La se rJock> zor gl u_:  is th a t  when yo u are trying to createa n Ubunt u p ackag e?
< TheMuso>zor glu_:You read t he pac kagin ggui d e ?
<zo r g lu _>La serJock: s o m eho w yes ,inst allinga lighttpd 1.5 fro m  so urce via chec kin stal l <z org l u_ >  Th eM u so: s ome time ago ye s, do i re me m be r it by he a rt,  n o :)
<e nyc> Fu jitsu :  i.e. i f this pr ogram act ua llyn e eds  libc6 atleast 2. 1 of libc 6 ... t h en  thedep  might  s pec ify t hat..b utthisseemsto  have

<Tonio_> siretart:_hi :)_I'm pinging you concerning_libxine
<enyc> not_done_this in_a_while ;-)
<jdong> enyc:_for most packages_there are subtle ABI_changes that cause_shlibdeps_to identify a specific version.
<Tonio_> siretart: there is a patch merged upstream for xcb_support,_which would_fix_our_so old kaffeine crash with_konqueror
<Tonio_> siretart: patch is a_bit big_but has been widelly tested upstream, is that_too_late to consider_adding this?
<enyc> jdong: kk... now herees what iirc is_see often...
<enyc> jdong: in 'prboom' feisty_universe..  ___ * [17] [dep]_ [18] libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1)
<Fujitsu> enyc:_We have a new libc6. That's_a fact of life.
<enyc> jdong: normally looks_to me like many packages seem_to explicitly depends on the_releveant distro's_version of libc6.. not actualyl_the version they_need
<TheMuso> back
<Fujitsu>_Running it on_earlier version may work, but it_may break horribly.
<enyc>_Fujitsu: sure... im just trying to_understand_where this comes_from
<enyc>_Fujitsu:_well fine..._but this dep_seems_not to_actually_specify the version needed normally... only_"what_version is in that distro"
<zorglu_> q. when_doing a./configure on ubuntu,_is_there a special --prefix_to set, or to leave_the default is fine?
<enyc> Fujitsu: ive_newer understood_why this_situation is like this
<LaserJock> zorglu_: is that when you are trying_to create an Ubuntu package?
<TheMuso> zorglu_:_You read the packaging_guide?
<zorglu_> LaserJock:_somehow_yes, installing a_lighttpd_1.5 from_source via checkinstall
<zorglu_> TheMuso: some time ago_yes, do_i remember it by heart, no_:)
<enyc> Fujitsu: i.e. if_this_program actually needs libc6 at least_2.1 of libc6... then the dep_might specify that.. but this_seems_to_have