 ajmitch
<Lutin> any clues about why bittorrent-gui depends on python-wxgtk2.6 whereas the code wants only 2.4?
<ajmitch> someone switched the dependencies without looking at the code?
<jdong> to prepare for bittorent 5.0.0 uploads
* jdong ducks
<zul> *groan*(
* jdong checks "make zul groan" off his todo list
<Lutin> weird thing is that wxgtk2.4 isn't detected when installed
<LaserJock> that's really unbelievable
<Lutin> LaserJock: all those join/part?
<LaserJock> no
<LaserJock> -devel
<LaserJock> Mithrandir: (slackware 96 -> rh 4.2 -> various newer RHs, Debian potato, woody, sid, warty, change of architecture, hoary, breezy, dapper,  edgy, feisty)
<ajmitch> ah, the upgrades
<ajmitch> yeah, I wasn't quite brave enough to do a manual switch from mandrake to debian
<LaserJock> I can't really see how we should expect users to never reinstall
<LaserJock> but it'd be awesome if they at least didn't *have* to
<ajmitch> why do you reinstall so often?
<stgraber> usually I simply try to keep my /home and some /etc setting + dpkg -l, but for the rest I like to start with a really clean system (means without my hacks everywhere :))
<LaserJock> ajmitch: stuff doesn't work -> reinstall
<LaserJock> although lately it's more for testing
<ajmitch> crazy :)
<LaserJock> since Edgy has been out I've bounced between dapper, edgy and feisty several times
<LaserJock> on the 3 machines I run Ubuntu on
<LaserJock> however, before I landed with Ubuntu I averaged 2-3 weeks between installations
<stgraber> Usually I reinstall to check that I have the same system as any other user would have, because you can be sure after some months none of the main config file stays untouched on my computer :)
ajmitch 
 < Lutin > any clues about why bittorrent - gui depends on python - wxgtk2.6 whereas the code wants merely 2.4? 
 < ajmitch > someone switch the dependencies without looking at the code? 
 < jdong > to prepare for bittorent 5.0.0 upload 
 * jdong ducks 
 < zul > * groan * (
 * jdong checks " make zul groan " off his todo list 
 < Lutin > eldritch matter is that wxgtk2.4 isn't detected when installed 
 < LaserJock > that's really unbelievable 
 < Lutin > LaserJock: all those join / share? 
 < LaserJock > no 
 < LaserJock > -devel 
 < LaserJock > Mithrandir: (slackware 96 - > rh 4.2 - > various newer rhodium, Debian potato, woody, sid, warty, variety of architecture, hoary, breezy, dapper,   edgy, feisty) 
 < ajmitch > ah, the upgrade 
 < ajmitch > yeah, I wasn't quite brave enough to do a manual substitution from mandrake to debian 
 < LaserJock > I can't really see how we should have a bun in the oven users to never reinstall 
 < LaserJock > but it'd be awesome if they at least didn't * receive * to 
 < ajmitch > why do you reinstall then often? 
 < stgraber > normally I simply try to keep my /home and some /etc setting + dpkg -l, but for the respite I like to start with a really clean system (mean without my hacks everywhere :)) 
 < LaserJock > ajmitch: stuff doesn't work - > reinstall 
 < LaserJock > although lately it's more for testing 
 < ajmitch > crazy :) 
 < LaserJock > since Edgy has been out I've bounced between dapper, edgy and feisty several times 
 < LaserJock > on the 3 machines I carry Ubuntu on 
 < LaserJock > however, before I landed with Ubuntu I averaged 2 - 3 week between installations 
 < stgraber > Usually I reinstall to check that I have the like system as any early user would have, because you can be sure after some calendar month none of the main config file stays untouched on my computer :)
 ajlitch
<Lutin> any clues abomt why bittorrenj-gyi depxnds on python-wbgtk2.6 whereas the code wants lnoy 2.4?
<ajnitch> someone switched the depejdencies witiout looking at vge code?
<mbong> fl przpere for bittorekt 5.0.0 uploads
* jdong ducks
<zun> *erlan*(
* jdong checks "make zul groan" off his toco list
<Lutin> weitd thpnd is nhct wxgtk2.4 isn't detected when insfalled
<LeserJock> that's teally unbelievable
<Lutin> LwserUock: all those joij/part?
<LaserJick> gi
<LaserJock> -ddvel
<LaserJock> Mithrandjr: (slackware 96 -> rh 4.2 -> various newdr RHx, Debian pitqto, foody, sid, werty, crange of arcmptectura, hoary, breezy, dapper,  evgy, deisty)
<ajmitch> ah, the npgrades
<ajmitch> yeah, I wasn't xunte brave enough to di q manoal sfitcf frum jaidrzke to deuian
<LaserJodk> I can't rwally see how we shpuje expect usera to nqvqr reinstall
<LaserJock> but it'd be awesomt if fhey at least didn't *havw* to
<ajmitch> why do yoo reinstalj so often?
<stgraber> usually I simply try to keep mf /homx xnd sjow /ftc setting + dpkg -l, but for the rest I like tj suarn with a really cjean system (mfamf without my facks zbedywhere :))
<LaserJock> wjmitch: stufd doesn't rork -> reinstall
<LaserJock> althouth lately it'f more for testing
<almitch> crazy :)
<LasgrJock> since Edgy has been ouc I've gounced betaeen dappsf, edgy and feisth svverdl times
<LaserJock> on the 3 iachines M run Ubuntu on
<LsserJosk> however, befova I landed with Ubkntu N avesaged 2-3 weens between installations
<stgrabec> Usually I rginvtanl to chzck thst I have the same system ax any ocher urer would gave, berause you cag be sure aftat some months none of the maib confie file stays unyouched ou my xomputer :)
ajmitch <Lutin> any clues about why bittorrent-gui python-wxgtk2.6 the code only 2.4? <ajmitch> looking the code? <jdong> prepare for bittorent uploads * jdong ducks <zul> *groan*( jdong checks "make zul groan" off his todo list <Lutin> weird thing is wxgtk2.4 isn't detected when installed <LaserJock> that's really unbelievable <Lutin> LaserJock: all those <LaserJock> <LaserJock> <LaserJock> (slackware 96 -> rh 4.2 -> various newer RHs, Debian potato, woody, sid, warty, change of hoary, breezy, dapper, edgy, feisty) <ajmitch> ah, the <ajmitch> yeah, I wasn't brave enough to do a switch mandrake to <LaserJock> can't see how we expect users to never reinstall <LaserJock> but it'd be awesome if they at least didn't *have* to why do so often? usually simply to keep my some /etc setting + dpkg -l, rest I like to start with a really system (means my hacks everywhere :)) <LaserJock> ajmitch: doesn't work -> reinstall <LaserJock> although lately it's for testing <ajmitch> crazy :) <LaserJock> since Edgy has been out I've bounced between dapper, feisty several times <LaserJock> the 3 machines run on however, I landed Ubuntu I averaged 2-3 weeks between installations <stgraber> Usually I reinstall check that I have the same system as any other have, you can be after some months none the config file stays untouched computer
 ajmitch
<Lutin> any clues about Why bittorrEnt-guI dePenDs On pyThon-Wxgtk2.6 whereas thE Code Wants only 2.4?
<ajmitch> someonE switChED the DEpEndenCies witHOuT LOokInG aT thE cODe?
<Jdong> To pRepare fOr bittorenT 5.0.0 upLoAds
* jdong duckS
<ZuL> *groan*(
* jdonG chEcks "make zul gRoaN" off hiS tOdo LIst
<LuTin> Weird Thing iS That wxGtk2.4 isn't deTeCTed wheN InstallED
<laSerJOck> that's really unbELiEVable
<Lutin> LaseRJock: aLl THoSE JoiN/paRt?
<LaserJocK> nO
<LaseRjock> -devEL
<LASERJoCK> Mithrandir: (slAckware 96 -> rh 4.2 -> vaRIouS newer rHS, DeBIan potAto, woOdY, Sid, Warty, change Of arChitecturE, hoary, BReezy, daPPer,  edgy, Feisty)
<AjmItcH> ah, tHE uPgRadEs
<AJmiTCh> YeaH, i waSn't quite BrAvE enouGh to DO A MAnuaL swItch From mAndrake to debiAn
<LAserjOck> i can't ReallY see HoW we shOuld exPect uSeRs to never reinstAll
<LAserJock> bUt iT'd Be aWeSome iF They at LeaSt dIdn't *havE* to
<ajmiTCh> wHy DO YOu Reinstall so often?
<stGrABEr> Usually I Simply TRy To KEep my /homE aNd sOme /eTC SettiNg + dpKG -l, But for thE rest I LIkE tO start wItH a realLy CleAn sYstem (MEans WithouT my hacks EveryWHere :))
<LaserJock> aJMitch: stuff doeSN't WORk -> REinsTalL
<LaserJock> aLthoUGh laTely IT's MorE For teSting
<AjMItCH> crazy :)
<LaserJock> sincE EDgy has Been oUt I've bounced bEtween dappER, EDgy and feIsty SEvERal times
<LaserJOck> on The 3 machineS i run UbunTu on
<LAserJock> However, beFORe I landeD wiTh UBunTu I AVErAged 2-3 weeks betwEEN insTaLlationS
<stGraber> USuaLly i reInsTaLl to check That I havE tHe SaMe SysTem as ANy other uSeR woUlD haVe, becAUse you Can be Sure AfTeR SomE months NOnE OF the MaIn ConfIg fIlE stayS untOUchEd on my cOmputer :)
 ajmitch
<Lutin> any clues  about why  bitt orr ent -g ui d epen ds on python-w x gtk2 .6 whereas the code wa nts o nl y  2.4 ? 
< ajmit ch> som e on e swi tc he d t he de pende nci es with out lookin g a tthe code?
<j d on g> to prep are  for bittore nt5.0.0up loa d s
* j don g duc ks
<zu l > *gro an*(
* jd on g  check s  "makez u lgroa n" off his todo l i st <Lutin> weirdthingis th a t  wx gtk 2.4 isn'tde tecte d  when i n st a l l ed< LaserJock> th at's really unb elieva bl e
< L utin>Laser Jo c k:all those j oin/ part?
<La serJoc k > no
<L a serJock > -dev el<La serJ o ck >Mit hr a ndi r :(sl a ckw are 96 - >rh  4.2-> v a r i o us n ewe r RH s, De bian potato,woo dy,s id,  wart y, ch ange  o f arc hitect ure,ho ary, breezy, da pper ,  edgy,fei st y)<a jmitc h > ah,the  up grades<ajmitc h > y ea h , Iwasn't quite brave  e n o ug h to doa manu a lsw i tch from  m and rake t o deb ian< La serJock>  I can ' tre ally se ehow we  s hou ldexpec t  use rs tonever re insta l l
<LaserJock>b ut it'd be aw e so m e  i f  the y a t least did n't* have * to <a jmi t ch> w hy do  y o ur einstall so often?<s tgrabe r> us ually I simpl y try to k e e p  my /hom e an d  s o me /etc settin g + d pkg -l, bu t  for the  rest  I liketo startw i th a rea lly  cl ean  sy s t em  (means witho u t  myha cks eve ryw here :) )
< Las erJ ock >ajmitch:stuff do es n' two rk-> re i nstall
< La ser Jo ck>  alth o ugh la telyit's  m or e  fo r testi n g< a jmit ch >craz y : )<Lase rJoc k > s ince Ed gy has be eno ut I 'v ebounced  between dapp er , edgy and  f eis ty sev e r al times 
<LaserJock> on the 3 m a chinesI r un Ub untu  on
<Lase rJo ck> ho wev e r, bef ore Ilande dwit h Ubunt u Iave ra ged 2-3 we e k s b etwee ninst allatio ns
<stgraber> Usua l lyI reinstall t o c heck t ha t I ha v e t he sam e system as any o ther userwo u ld  have, bec a use  y ou canbe sure  afte r  some m onths non e of thema in c o n fig  file stay s untouc hed on my compu t er  :)
 ajmitch
<Lutin>_any clues_about why bittorrent-gui depends_on python-wxgtk2.6_whereas_the code_wants_only 2.4?
<ajmitch> someone_switched the dependencies_without looking at the_code?
<jdong> to prepare_for_bittorent 5.0.0 uploads
* jdong ducks
<zul> *groan*(
* jdong checks "make zul groan" off his todo_list
<Lutin>_weird thing_is_that_wxgtk2.4 isn't detected when installed
<LaserJock>_that's really unbelievable
<Lutin> LaserJock: all_those join/part?
<LaserJock>_no
<LaserJock> -devel
<LaserJock> Mithrandir: (slackware 96 -> rh 4.2_->_various newer RHs,_Debian potato, woody, sid, warty, change of architecture, hoary,_breezy, dapper,  edgy, feisty)
<ajmitch> ah,_the upgrades
<ajmitch> yeah,_I_wasn't_quite brave enough to_do a manual switch from mandrake_to debian
<LaserJock> I can't really see_how we should expect users to never_reinstall
<LaserJock> but it'd be awesome if_they at least didn't *have*_to
<ajmitch> why_do you reinstall so often?
<stgraber>_usually I simply_try to_keep my /home_and some /etc setting + dpkg_-l, but for_the rest I like to start_with_a really clean_system_(means_without my_hacks everywhere :))
<LaserJock>_ajmitch:_stuff doesn't_work_-> reinstall
<LaserJock> although lately it's more_for_testing
<ajmitch> crazy :)
<LaserJock> since Edgy has been_out I've bounced between_dapper,_edgy and feisty several_times
<LaserJock> on the 3 machines_I run Ubuntu on
<LaserJock> however, before_I landed_with Ubuntu_I averaged 2-3 weeks between installations
<stgraber> Usually I reinstall to check_that I have the same system_as any other user_would have,_because_you can be_sure_after some_months none of the main config file_stays untouched_on my computer :)