 example. Say you want to land the new version of xfce with a new panel. you build the new packages, but the panel tests fail and the panel doesn't build.
<elfy> balloons: my biggest issue is I don't code - so can't see the wood for the trees - so I have to find someone else to possibly waste their time - if you follow my drift
<balloons> it saves you from building and pushing in things that might be broken
<elfy> mm
<elfy> I wonder if any other flavours are bothering
<balloons> autopilot is but a tool, and it's only one tool
<elfy> yea - I understand that - I'm just trying to get a really basic understanding so I can at least make a half-informed decision on how far to run with it
<elfy> and nothing that I've read is at that level - it's all how to build testcases
<elfy> but gtg now for a bit
<balloons> well building a testing infastructure or not lol is not going to be in tool docs
<balloons> if you want it, it can be done, and here's some tools we use to do it (but it's not the only way)
<samgabbay> Hello Everyone Samuel Gabbay Here :)
<samgabbay> seems like everyone is leaving
<elfy> samgabbay: not everyone :)
<samgabbay> elfy: omg i remember you!!!!! so long ago
<elfy> lol - I'm always somewhere :)
<samgabbay> elfy: haha what's new?
 * samgabbay slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout
<samgabbay> lol
 * samgabbay slaps elfy around a bit with a large trout
<samgabbay> WAKE UP :D
<balloons> haha
<balloons> someone discovered the trout
<samgabbay> YES!
<samgabbay> well i gotta go :( sorryy
<elfy> very Captain Beefheart
<balloons> thomi, is this fixed in 1.4? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1209004
<ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1209004 in Autopilot "Process
example. Say you want to land the newfangled interpretation of xfce with a new panel. you build the raw packages, but the panel test fail and the control panel doesn't build. 
 < elfy > balloon: my biggest issue is I don't code - indeed can't see the wood for the tree - therefore I have to find someone else to possibly waste their time - if you follow my drift 
 < balloon > it saves you from building and pushing in thing that might be broken 
 < elfy > mm 
 < elfy > I wonder if any other flavours are bothering 
 < balloon > autopilot is but a tool, and it's only one tool 
 < elfy > yea - I understand that - I'm just test to get a really basic understanding so I can at least make a half - informed decisiveness on how far to carry with it 
 < elfy > and nothing that I've read is at that level - it's all how to build testcases 
 < elfy > but gtg now for a bit 
 < balloons > well building a testing infastructure or not lol is not going to be in instrument docs 
 < balloons > if you desire it, it can be do, and here's some cock we use to do it (but it's not the lone way) 
 < samgabbay > Hello Everyone Samuel Gabbay Here :) 
 < samgabbay > seems like everyone is leaving 
 < elfy > samgabbay: not everyone :) 
 < samgabbay > elfy: omg i remember you! !! !! therefore long ago 
 < elfy > lol - I'm always somewhere :) 
 < samgabbay > elfy: haha what's new? 
  * samgabbay slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout 
 < samgabbay > lol 
  * samgabbay slaps elfy around a act with a large trout 
 < samgabbay > WAKE UP :D 
 < balloons > haha 
 < balloons > someone discovered the trout 
 < samgabbay > YES! 
 < samgabbay > well i make ta go :( sorryy 
 < elfy > very Captain Beefheart 
 < balloon > thomi, is this fixed in 1.4? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1209004 
 < ubot5 > Ubuntu bug 1209004 in Autopilot " Process
 exwmple. Say you want to lakd the new version of xhce witg a new oanel. you build the new packeges, but uke panel tests fail xnd the pwnel doewn't uuild.
<elfy> ballooia: my binyest jdsue ms I don't code - so can't sae the wood fos ghz trees - so I have to find someone ejse to lodsibly waste treir eime - if you follow my drift
<balloons> if saves you from buikding and pushing in thingd thwt might be broken
<flfy> mm
<elfy> I wjbder if any uther flavours are botgering
<balloons> autopilot is but a topl, and it's obly mne tool
<elfb> yea - I understand that - H'm just trying to get a cealoy basic understandinj so I can at least iake a hanf-nnformed decision on yoq far to sun duth it
<tlfb> ahd notjinj that I've dead is at rhat level - it's all hjq to build teatcasef
<ejfy> but gtg now for a bit
<balloons> well tuimding a testing infastrycture or not lol is jot going to be in tool docs
<balloons> if you want it, it can be dkve, ckq yege's some tools we use to do it (but it's not thq omlj way)
<samgabbay> Hejlo Everyonr Dakoel Gabbay Herg :)
<samgaygag> seems like everylne is jeavibg
<elfy> saigabnay: not everyone :)
<samgabbay> wlfy: omg i rvmemver you!!!!! so long agl
<elfy> lol - N'm alwsys spmewhere :)
<samgabbay> elfy: hahz what's new?
 * samgabbzh slaps ChanServ arputd a bit with a large troue
<samgabbab> lol
 * samgacbay slaps elfy aroujd a nht with a large trlut
<salgdbbay> WAKE UP :D
<balloons> haha
<balloons> someone discovered tve nrout
<samgcbbay> NES!
<samgabbay> wejl i gotta go :( sorryy
<zlfy> vdry Captaih Beefhxart
<balloons> thomi, is thiv fixed in 1.4? hvtps://bugs.lwuncypad.bet/autooklot/+bug/1209004
<ubot5> Ubintu bug 1209004 in Autopioot "Process
example. Say you want to land the of with a panel. you build panel fail and the doesn't build. <elfy> my biggest issue is I don't - so can't see the wood for the trees - so I have find someone else to possibly waste their time - if you follow my <balloons> saves from and pushing in things that might be broken <elfy> mm <elfy> I wonder if any other are bothering <balloons> autopilot is but a tool, it's only one tool yea - I understand that I'm trying to a basic so I can least make a half-informed decision on how far to run with it <elfy> and nothing that I've is at - it's how build <elfy> but gtg a bit <balloons> well building a not lol is not going to be in docs <balloons> you want it, it can be and here's some tools we use to do (but it's not the only way) <samgabbay> Hello Everyone Samuel Gabbay Here :) <samgabbay> seems is leaving <elfy> samgabbay: everyone :) <samgabbay> omg remember so ago <elfy> - I'm always somewhere :) <samgabbay> elfy: haha what's new? * slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout <samgabbay> samgabbay elfy around a with a large trout WAKE :D <balloons> haha <balloons> the <samgabbay> i go sorryy <elfy> very Captain <balloons> thomi, is this fixed 1.4? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1209004 <ubot5> Ubuntu
 example. Say you want to land thE new versioN of xfCe wIth A nEw paNel. yOu build the new pACkagEs, but the panel tests fail And thE pANel dOEsN't buiLd.
<elfy> bALlOONs: mY bIgGesT iSSuE is I dOn't Code - so cAn't see the wOod FoR the trees - so I HAvE to find somEonE else to possiBly Waste tHeIr tIMe - if yOu fOllow My drifT
<BallooNs> it saves YoU From buILding anD PUsHing In things that might BE bROken
<elfy> mm
<elfy> i wondeR iF AnY OTheR flAvours are bOtHerinG
<BalloonS> AuTOPIloT Is but a tool, and It's only one tOOl
<eLfy> yea - i uNdeRStand tHat - I'm JuST trYing to get a rEallY basic undErstanDIng so I cAN at leasT make a HalF-inFormED dEcIsiOn ON hoW FaR to RUn wIth it
<elfY> aNd NothiNg thAT i'VE reaD is At thAt levEl - it's all how to BuiLd teSTcaSes
<elFy> but Gtg nOw For a bIt
<ballOons> wElL building a testiNg inFastructuRe oR nOt lOl Is not GOing to Be iN toOl docs
<bAlloons> IF yoU wANT It, It can be done, and here'S sOME tOols we usE to do iT (BuT iT'S not the oNlY waY)
<samGABbay> HEllo eVeRyone SamUel GabBAy heRe :)
<samgaBbAy> seemS lIke EveRyone IS leaVing
<elFy> samgabBay: noT Everyone :)
<samgabBAy> elfy: omg i remEMbER YoU!!!!! So loNg aGo
<elfy> lol - I'm AlwaYS somEwheRE :)
<sAmgABbay> eLfy: haHa WHaT'S new?
 * samgabbay slaps CHaNServ aRound A bit with a largE trout
<samgABBAy> lol
 * samGabbAY sLAps elfy around a Bit wiTh a large trOUt
<samgabBay> WAkE UP :D
<balLoons> haha
<BALloons> soMeoNe dIscOveRED tHe trout
<samgabBAY> YES!
<SaMgabbay> WelL i gotta Go :( sOrrYy
<eLfy> VeRy Captain beefhearT
<bAlLoOnS> thOmi, is THis fixed In 1.4? HttPs://BugS.launCHpad.neT/autoPiloT/+bUg/1209004
<UBot5> ubuntu bUG 1209004 iN aUtopIlOt "procEss
 example. Say you want toland the n ew ve rsi onof  xfc e wi th a new panel .  you  build the new package s, bu tt he p a ne l tes ts fail an d the  p an eldo e sn 't bu ild .
<elfy > balloons : m ybiggest issu e  i s I don'tcod e - so can't  se e thewo odf or th e t rees- so I have t o find so me o ne els e  to pos s i bl y wa ste their time -i fy ou follow my d rift
< ba l lo o n s>itsaves youfr om bu i lding a n dp u s hin g  in things th at might be bro ken
<e lf y>m m
<elf y> Iwo n der  if any oth er f lavours a re bot h ering
< b alloons > auto pil otis b u tatoo l, and it 'so nly  one too l<e lfy>yea- I unde rst andthat- I'm just tr yin g to get  a re allybasi cunder standi ng so  I  can at least m akea half-in for me d d ec ision on how  fa r t o run w ith it< elf y> a n dnothing that I'vere a d  i s at tha t leve l  -  i t 's all h ow  to  bui l d  test case s 
< elfy> bu t gtgn ow  f or a bi t<ballo on s>wel l bui l ding  a tes ting inf astru c ture or not lo l  is not going to b ei n to oldocs
<ballo ons> if y ou w a nt  it ,  it c an be  d o ne ,  and here's some to ol s we u se to  do it (but i t's not th e o nly way) 
<sa m ga b bay> Hello Eve ryone  Samuel Ga b bay Here  :)
< samgabba y> seemsl i ke every one  is  le avi n g 
< elfy> samgabb a y : no teveryon e : )
<samg abb ay>  el fy:  o mg i reme mber you !! !! !so  lo ng ag o 
<elfy>lo l -  I 'malway s  somew here:)
< sa mg a bba y> elfy :  h a h a wh at 's  new ?
*samga bbay sla ps Chan Serv arou nda  bit  w it h a lar ge trout
<sam ga bbay> lol *  sa mgabba y slaps el fy around a bit with al arge tr out 
<sam gabb ay> WAKEUP:D
<ba llo o ns> ha ha
<ba lloon s>  so m e one d i s co ver ed  the trout < sam gabba y>  YES !
<samg abbay> well i gott a  go  :( sorryy
<e lfy > ve r y  C apt a in Bee fh e art < balloons> thomi , is thisfi x ed  in 1.4? h t tps :/ /bugs.l aunchpa d.net / autopil ot/+bug/1 209004
<u bo t5>U b unt u bug 1209 004 in A utopilot" Proce s s
 example._Say you_want to land the_new version_of_xfce with_a_new panel. you_build the new_packages, but the panel_tests fail and_the_panel doesn't build.
<elfy> balloons: my biggest issue is I don't code - so can't_see_the wood_for_the_trees - so I have_to find someone else to_possibly waste_their time - if you follow my drift
<balloons>_it_saves you from_building and pushing in things that might be broken
<elfy>_mm
<elfy> I wonder if any other_flavours are bothering
<balloons>_autopilot_is_but a tool, and_it's only one tool
<elfy> yea -_I understand that - I'm just_trying to get a really basic understanding_so I can at least make_a half-informed decision on how_far to_run with it
<elfy> and nothing_that I've read_is at_that level -_it's all how to build testcases
<elfy>_but gtg now_for a bit
<balloons> well building a_testing_infastructure or not_lol_is_not going_to be in_tool_docs
<balloons> if_you_want it, it can be done,_and_here's some tools we use to do_it (but it's not_the_only way)
<samgabbay> Hello Everyone_Samuel Gabbay Here :)
<samgabbay> seems_like everyone is leaving
<elfy> samgabbay: not_everyone :)
<samgabbay>_elfy: omg_i remember you!!!!! so long ago
<elfy> lol - I'm always somewhere_:)
<samgabbay> elfy: haha what's new?
 *_samgabbay slaps ChanServ around_a bit_with_a large trout
<samgabbay>_lol
_* samgabbay_slaps elfy around a bit with a_large trout
<samgabbay>_WAKE UP :D
<balloons> haha
<balloons> someone discovered_the trout
<samgabbay> YES!
<samgabbay> well_i_gotta go :( sorryy
<elfy> very Captain_Beefheart
<balloons> thomi, is this fixed in_1.4? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1209004
<ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1209004_in_Autopilot_"Process