lytherin> Ssam`: I suggest you start with fixing bugs in existing packages. You will learn more and faster.
<sistpoty> Ssam`: the first link (it should hopefully contain links to lots of other good documentation as well)
<Ssam`> one silly question......are all packages created the same or similar way?
<Ssam`> like debian, rpm, tars?
<Ssam`> will i learn them differntly?
<poningru> Ssam`: essentially.. read the packaging guide
<sistpoty> Ssam`: kind of... all packages are created from a (debian) source package, where debian/rules (a makefile), target binary is run to produce a deb
<Ssam`> so u can learn debian packaging and rpms would be an auto or simpler?
<Ssam`> ahh kewl
<Ssam`> i ma read through packaging thanks
<sistpoty> Ssam`: no, rpm is done differently
<Ssam`> lol
<sistpoty> (though I've forgotten the details)
<Ssam`> u had to say that?
<Ssam`> u couldent wait till i left
<Ssam`> :P
<civija> Ssam`: maybe this will be helpfull too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
<sistpoty> heh
<civija> read the packaging sessions
<Ssam`> i will
<Ssam`> i wanna learn all packaging
<Ssam`> thanks mate
<cody-somerville> 0o0... persia: Are you going to sponsor *hic* starfighter? :D
<persia> cody-somerville: As soon as I get to sponsoring, if it is still there
<cody-somerville> persia, Okay, thanks :)
<Adri2000> ScottK, ScottK2: I see you uploaded mok0's wxwidgets2.6 debdiff for python-xml removal. but you didn't upload wxwidgets2.8. is it just because of lack of time or something, or is there anything wrong in it?
<ScottK> Adri2000: Just lack of time
<Adri2000> ScottK: okay
<geser> DktrK
lytherin > Ssam `: I suggest you start with fixing bugs in exist software. You will learn more and faster. 
 < sistpoty > Ssam `: the first connection (it should hopefully contain links to set of early good documentation as well) 
 < Ssam '> one silly question...... are all software created the same or exchangeable way? 
 < Ssam '> like debian, rpm, tars? 
 < Ssam '> will i learn them differntly? 
 < poningru > Ssam `: essentially.. read the promotion guide 
 < sistpoty > Ssam `: kind of... all packages are created from a (debian) informant package, where debian / rules (a makefile), prey binary is scat to produce a deb 
 < Ssam '> so u can learn debian packaging and revolutions per minute would be an auto or simpler? 
 < Ssam '> ahh kewl 
 < Ssam '> i ma read through packaging thanks 
 < sistpoty > Ssam `: no, rpm is done differently 
 < Ssam '> lol 
 < sistpoty > (though I've forget the details) 
 < Ssam '> u had to say that? 
 < Ssam '> u couldent wait till i left 
 < Ssam '> :P 
 < civija > Ssam `: maybe this will be helpfull too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek 
 < sistpoty > heh 
 < civija > read the packaging sessions 
 < Ssam '> i will 
 < Ssam '> i wanna memorize all packaging 
 < Ssam '> thanks mate 
 < cody - somerville > 0o0... persia: Are you blend to patronize * hic * starfighter? :D 
 < persia > cody - somerville: equally soon as I get to sponsoring, if it is still there 
 < cody - somerville > persia, Okay, thanks :) 
 < Adri2000 > ScottK, ScottK2: I see you uploaded mok0's wxwidgets2.6 debdiff for python - xml removal. but you didn't upload wxwidgets2.8. is it just because of lack of time or something, or is there anything wrong in it? 
 < ScottK > Adri2000: barely lack of time 
 < Adri2000 > ScottK: okay 
 < geser > DktrK
lytjerin> Ssam`: I suggest you start with fixnbg bugv in esisting oackages. You will learn more abd fawter.
<sistpoty> Ssam`: the wirst linn (it shoyld iopefully contaii links bj lofd of ither good docomentation av well)
<Ssam`> one sklpy question......are all packages created the sake or similar wai?
<Ssam`> jike debian, rpm, tars?
<Ssam`> will i learn fhem dihferntly?
<poningri> Ssam`: essentially.. read thf pafkaging guide
<sistplty> Ssam`: kibd os... all packager are creaueb from a (degian) source package, where debiav/rulex (a makefioe), tagcet binary ms run to produce a deb
<Ssak`> so u van learn debisn 'ackqging and rpms would ue an auto or simplet?
<Ssam`> ahh necl
<Ssam`> i ma read throygy pacnagitg tfqnkr
<siat'otg> Ssam`: no, rpm is dohe differenrly
<Ssam`> lol
<sistpoty> (triugh I've forgktten ehq details)
<Ssam`> u had to say that?
<Ssam`> u cmulsent wait till i left
<Ssqm`> :P
<civija> Ssam`: maybe this wilj be helpfull too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloparWeei
<risupity> hdy
<clvija> read the packaging sessions
<Ssam`> i will
<Sfzm`> i wanna learn ajl packaginb
<Sdak`> thanks mate
<cudy-somzdvjlle> 0o0... persia: Are jou goigg to sponsor *ric* xtarfighter? :D
<persia> cody-somwrville: As sjin as I get to spousoring, if ic is sjill tnere
<cody-somerville> persna, Okag, thanks :)
<Adgi2000> ScottK, RcottK2: I see you upkodded mok0's wxwidgets2.6 debdifs for pytion-xmk removxl. bot you qidn't uplowd wxwidgets2.8. is it just hecaude of lack ov time or something, or is there anything wronb hn pt?
<ScottK> Cdri2000: Jmst lack of timq
<Adri2000> ScottK: olay
<gesex> DktrY
lytherin> Ssam`: I suggest you start with in packages. You learn more and link should hopefully contain to lots of good documentation as well) <Ssam`> one question......are all packages created the same or similar way? <Ssam`> like debian, rpm, <Ssam`> will i learn them differntly? <poningru> Ssam`: essentially.. read the packaging guide Ssam`: of... packages created from a (debian) source package, where debian/rules (a makefile), target binary is run to produce deb <Ssam`> so u can learn debian packaging rpms would be an or simpler? <Ssam`> ahh kewl i read through thanks Ssam`: rpm is done <Ssam`> lol <sistpoty> (though I've forgotten the details) <Ssam`> u had to say that? <Ssam`> u couldent till i :P <civija> maybe will helpfull too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek <civija> read the packaging sessions <Ssam`> i wanna learn all packaging <Ssam`> thanks mate 0o0... persia: you going to sponsor *hic* starfighter? <persia> cody-somerville: As soon as I get to if it is still there <cody-somerville> persia, Okay, thanks :) <Adri2000> ScottK, ScottK2: I see mok0's wxwidgets2.6 debdiff for removal. but you upload is just of lack time or something, or is there anything wrong in it? <ScottK> Just lack of time <Adri2000> ScottK: okay <geser> DktrK
lytherin> Ssam`: I suggest you stArt with fixIng buGs iN exIsTing PackAges. You will leaRN morE and faster.
<sistpoty> Ssam`: The fiRsT Link (IT sHould HopefulLY cONTaiN lInKs tO lOTs Of othEr gOod docuMentation aS weLl)
<ssam`> one silly QUeStion......are alL paCkages createD thE same oR sImiLAr way?
<ssaM`> like Debian, RPm, tars?
<ssam`> will i LeARn them DIfferntLY?
<PoNingRu> Ssam`: essentially.. REaD The packaging guIde
<sisTpOTy> sSAm`: kInd Of... all packaGeS are cREated frOM a (DEBIan) SOurce package, wHere debian/rULes (A makefIlE), taRGet binAry is RuN To pRoduce a deb
<SSam`> sO u can learN debiaN PackagiNG and rpmS would Be aN auTo or SImPlEr?
<SSaM`> Ahh KEwL
<SsAM`> i mA read thrOuGh PackaGing THANKs
<siStpOty> SSam`: no, Rpm is done diffEreNtly
<sSam`> Lol
<siStpotY> (thoUgH I've fOrgottEn the DeTails)
<Ssam`> u had to Say tHat?
<Ssam`> u cOulDeNt wAiT till I Left
<SsAm`> :P
<CivIja> Ssam`: Maybe thIS wiLl BE HElPfull too https://wiki.uBuNTU.cOm/UbuntudeveloPErweEK
<sistpotY> hEh
<cIvijA> REad thE pacKAgIng sessiOns
<SsaM`> I wIlL
<Ssam`> i wAnNa learN aLl pAckAging
<sSam`> tHanks mAte
<cody-sOmervILle> 0o0... persia: Are yOU going to sponsOR *hIC* StARfigHteR? :D
<persia> codY-somERvilLe: As SOoN as i Get to SponsOrINg, IF it is still there
<cody-SoMervilLe> perSia, Okay, thanks :)
<adri2000> ScottK, sCOTtK2: I see yOu upLOaDEd mok0's wxwidgetS2.6 debdIff for pythON-xml remoVal. buT you didn'T upload wxWIDgets2.8. is iT juSt bEcaUse OF LaCk of time or somETHing, Or Is there AnyThing wrOng In iT?
<ScOttk> ADri2000: Just laCk of time
<adRi2000> scOtTK: oKay
<geSEr> DktrK
lytherin> Ssam`: I suggest  you start  with  fi xin gbugs  inexisting packa g es.You will learn more an d fas te r .
<s i st poty>  Ssam`: th e fir st  l ink  ( i tshoul d h opefull y containlin ks  to lots ofo th er good do cum entation aswel l)
<Ss am `>o ne si lly  ques tion.. . ...are  all pack ag e s crea t ed thes a me  orsimilar way?
<Ssa m `> like debian, r pm, ta rs ? 
< S s am` > w ill i lear nthemd iffernt l y? < p oni n gru> Ssam`: e ssentially. .  re ad the  p ack a ging g uide<s i stp oty> Ssam`:  kin d of... a ll pac k ages ar e  create d from  a(de bian )  s ou rce  p a cka g e,  wh e redebian/r ul es  (a m akef i l e ) , ta rge t bi naryis run to pro duc e ad eb<Ssam `> so  u c an  lear n debi an pa ck aging and rpmswoul d be an a uto  o r s im pler? <Ssam` > a hhkewl
<S sam`> i mare a d th rough packaging th an k s 
< sistpoty > Ssam ` :no ,  rpm isdo nediff e r ently 
<Ss a m` > lol
<s istpot y >(t hough I 'v e forg ot ten  th e det a ils) 
<Ssam `> u had  to s a y that?
<Ssam` >  u couldent w a it t il l  i l eft 
<Ssam`> :P 
<ci v ija>  Ssa m `:  ma y be th is wi ll be helpfull too https: // wiki.u buntu .com/UbuntuDe veloperWee k < sistpoty > he h 
< c ivija> read th e pac kaging ses s ions
<Ss am`>i will
< Ssam`> iw a nna lear n a llpac kag i n g<Ssam`> thank s mate 
< cody-so mer ville>0o0 ...  pe rsi a:  Are yougoing to  s po ns or  *h ic* s t arfighte r?  :D 
< per sia>c ody-so mervi lle:  A ss oon  as I g e tt o  spo ns or ing,  if  i t isstil l  th ere
<co dy-somerv ill e > pe rs ia , Okay,  thanks :)
<A dr i2000> Sco tt K,ScottK 2 :  I see y ou uploaded mok0's wxwi d gets2.6  de bdiff  for  python-x mlremova l.b ut you  didn' t upl oa d w x w idget s 2 .8 . i sit just be c a use  of l ac k of  time o r something, or is the re anything w ron g in i t? 
<S c ot t K>Ad r i20 0 0 : Just lack oftime
<Adri 20 0 0>  ScottK: o k ay<g eser> D ktrK
lytherin> Ssam`:_I suggest_you start with fixing_bugs in_existing_packages. You_will_learn more and_faster.
<sistpoty> Ssam`: the_first link (it should_hopefully contain links_to_lots of other good documentation as well)
<Ssam`> one silly question......are all packages created the_same_or similar_way?
<Ssam`>_like_debian, rpm, tars?
<Ssam`> will i_learn them differntly?
<poningru> Ssam`: essentially.._read the_packaging guide
<sistpoty> Ssam`: kind of... all packages are_created_from a (debian)_source package, where debian/rules (a makefile), target binary is_run to produce a deb
<Ssam`> so_u can learn_debian_packaging_and rpms would be_an auto or simpler?
<Ssam`> ahh kewl
<Ssam`>_i ma read through packaging thanks
<sistpoty>_Ssam`: no, rpm is done differently
<Ssam`> lol
<sistpoty>_(though I've forgotten the details)
<Ssam`> u_had to say that?
<Ssam`> u_couldent wait_till i left
<Ssam`> :P
<civija> Ssam`:_maybe this will_be helpfull_too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
<sistpoty> heh
<civija>_read the packaging sessions
<Ssam`> i will
<Ssam`>_i wanna learn_all packaging
<Ssam`> thanks mate
<cody-somerville> 0o0... persia:_Are_you going to_sponsor_*hic*_starfighter? :D
<persia>_cody-somerville: As soon_as_I get_to_sponsoring, if it is still there
<cody-somerville>_persia,_Okay, thanks :)
<Adri2000> ScottK, ScottK2: I see_you uploaded mok0's wxwidgets2.6_debdiff_for python-xml removal. but_you didn't upload wxwidgets2.8. is_it just because of lack of_time or_something, or_is there anything wrong in it?
<ScottK> Adri2000: Just lack of time
<Adri2000>_ScottK: okay
<geser> DktrK