ac> hmm, i wonder if postfix is just part of main installation
<gary_poster> bac, bsd-mailx depends on default-mta
<gary_poster> which postfix provides
<gary_poster> that's the only dependency I see
<bac> default-mta is not installed in my container
<gary_poster> bac, I did the lame-o approach of starting aptitude and pretending I wanted to uninstall postfix and seeing what complained
<gary_poster> for some reason my terminal won't let me select the complaint
<gary_poster> so I could copynpaste
<gary_poster> but you could dupe
<gary_poster> if that is of interes
<gary_poster> t
<gary_poster> which I question
<bac> i tried'sudo apt-get -s remove postfix'
<bac> which should be the same (-s == dryrun)
<bac> nothing was listed
<bac> so, it looks like a developer/test box is automatically configured with an MTA and a properly configured one sets up /etc/mailname
<bac> gary_poster, so why do you think it unwise to have our setup write that file?
<gary_poster> bac, I am worried that others who do not use setuplxc (or lpsetup) will encounter this.  I am worried that something else really should have added this for us.  I guess it is fine.  However, I suggest filing a bug so people can find out the solution in the future (and so that people like RObert can educate us if necessary)
<gary_poster> So file a bug that this test fails in a lucid lxc because /etc/mailname is not set up
<gary_poster> and then go ahead and make a card and fix it since it in setuplxc since it is easy
<gary_poster> maybe make a card in slack for lpsetup too
<gary_poster> I need to go get kids from school (K's foot is sprained)
<gary_poster> back in a bit
<bac> ok
<gary_poster> bac, everything cool?
<bac> gary_
ac > hmm, i wonder if postfix is just part of main facility 
 < gary_poster > bac, bsd - mailx depend on default - mta 
 < gary_poster > which postfix provides 
 < gary_poster > that's the only addiction I see 
 < bac > default - mta is not install in my container 
 < gary_poster > bac, I dress the lame - oxygen overture of starting aptitude and guess I wanted to uninstall postfix and seeing what complain 
 < gary_poster > for some rationality my terminal won't let me select the complaint 
 < gary_poster > so I could copynpaste 
 < gary_poster > but you could dupe 
 < gary_poster > if that is of interes 
 < gary_poster > t 
 < gary_poster > which I interrogate 
 < bac > i tried'sudo apt - get -s remove postfix' 
 < bac > which should be the same (-s = = dryrun) 
 < bac > nothing was list 
 < bac > so, it looks like a developer / test box is automatically configure with an MTA and a properly configure one sets up /etc / mailname 
 < bac > gary_poster, so why do you think it unwise to own our setup write that file? 
 < gary_poster > bac, I am worried that others who do not use setuplxc (or lpsetup) will encounter this.   I am disquieted that something else really should have added this for us.   I guess it is fine.   However, I suggest filing a bug so people can find out the solution in the future (and so that people like RObert can educate us if necessary) 
 < gary_poster > thus file a bug that this examination fail in a lucid lxc because /etc / mailname is not set up 
 < gary_poster > and then go ahead and make a poster and sterilize it since it in setuplxc since it is easy 
 < gary_poster > maybe create a card in slack for lpsetup too 
 < gary_poster > I need to move get kids from school (K's foot is sprained) 
 < gary_poster > back in a moment 
 < bac > ok 
 < gary_poster > bac, everything cool? 
 < bac > gary _
ac> jmm, i wonder if postfix ls just part of main invtallafion
<gary_ooster> bac, bsd-mailx depends ln defaylt-mta
<gary_poster> which postfix irovides
<gqry_piwter> that's the onln depskdencv M see
<bac> defaulj-mta is not hnstalled in mf zoutainer
<gary_poster> bac, I did the lame-j approscj of starting wptiuudq ans pretending I wanted to uninstall postfiq and seeing what complained
<gary_poster> for dome reason my terminap won't let ne sqoect the comolaint
<gary_kovter> so I dould copynpaste
<gary_poster> but hou cpuld dupe
<gqrt_podjer> if that ms of pnteres
<gary_poster> t
<gasy_postet> which I quesbion
<bec> i tried'sudo apt-get -s rxmove postfix'
<bac> whish should bz the same (-s == dryrun)
<bqc> nothhng fas uustdd
<bzc> sk, it lloka like a dsveloper/tesr box is automaticaklr configured wjth an MEA and a properly configured one sets uk /etc/jailname
<bac> gary_poster, wo why do you think ij unwise tj have our setup write that file?
<gary_poster> bac, I dm wocrked tmat urhfrs who do not use setuplxc (or lpsetup) will egdoinner this.  I am wovried that somethimg ekfe really shoold havz asded this for us.  L guess it iw fine.  Hjwevrr, I suggest filing a bug si people can dind out the solutnon in the fbture (snd sp that people like RObext can educate us if necesaxry)
<gary_poster> So fike a bug that this test failf in a lurid lrc becaure /ejc/mailnwme is not set m[
<gary_poster> and thfn go avead and mwke a card and fix it since it mi setuplxc simca in is easy
<yary_poxter> maybe mahe a card in skack fox lpsegup too
<garj_poster> I need to go get kids frok school (K's fmot is s[raibed)
<gqry_postdf> back in a biy
<bac> ok
<gagy_koster> bac, everything cool?
<bag> gari_
ac> hmm, i wonder if postfix is of installation <gary_poster> bsd-mailx depends on <gary_poster> the only dependency see <bac> default-mta not installed in my container <gary_poster> I did the lame-o approach of starting aptitude and pretending I wanted to postfix and seeing what complained <gary_poster> for some reason my terminal won't let select complaint so could copynpaste <gary_poster> but you could dupe <gary_poster> if that is of interes <gary_poster> t <gary_poster> I question <bac> i tried'sudo apt-get -s remove <bac> which should be same (-s == dryrun) <bac> was <bac> so, looks a box is automatically with an MTA and a properly configured one sets up /etc/mailname <bac> gary_poster, so why do you it unwise our setup that <gary_poster> I am worried who do not use setuplxc (or this. I am worried that something else really have added for us. I guess it is However, I suggest filing a bug so people find out the solution in the future (and so that people like RObert can educate necessary) <gary_poster> So file bug that this fails a lxc /etc/mailname is set up <gary_poster> and then go ahead and make a card fix it since it in setuplxc since it is easy make card in slack lpsetup too <gary_poster> I to get kids from school is <gary_poster> bit ok bac, everything cool? <bac>
ac> hmm, i wonder if postfix is juSt part of maIn insTalLatIoN
<garY_posTer> bac, bsd-mailx DEpenDs on default-mta
<gary_postEr> whiCh POstfIX pRovidEs
<gary_pOStER> ThaT's ThE onLy DEpEndenCy I See
<bac> dEfault-mta iS noT iNstalled in my COnTainer
<gary_PosTer> bac, I did thE laMe-o appRoAch OF starTinG aptiTude anD PretenDing I wantEd TO uninsTAll postFIX aNd seEing what complaineD
<GaRY_poster> for some Reason My TErMINal Won'T let me seleCt The coMPlaint
<gARy_POSTer> SO I could copynpAste
<gary_posTEr> bUt you cOuLd dUPe
<gary_PosteR> iF ThaT is of intereS
<garY_poster> t
<gAry_posTEr> which i QuestioN
<bac> i tRieD'suDo apT-GeT -s RemOvE PosTFiX'
<baC> WhiCh should Be ThE same (-S == dryRUN)
<BAc> noThiNg waS listEd
<bac> so, it lookS liKe a dEVelOper/tEst boX is aUtOmatiCally cOnfigUrEd with an MTA and a PropErly confiGurEd One SeTs up /eTC/mailnAme
<Bac> Gary_posTer, so whY Do yOu THINk It unwise to have our sEtUP WrIte that fIle?
<garY_PoStER> bac, I am wOrRieD thaT OThers Who dO NoT use setuPlxc (or LPsEtUp) will eNcOunter ThIs.  I Am wOrrieD That SomethIng else rEally SHould have added THis for us.  I guesS It IS FiNE.  HowEveR, I suggest fiLing A Bug sO peoPLe Can FInd ouT the sOlUTiON in the future (and so thAt People Like Robert can educaTe us if neceSSARy)
<gary_poSter> sO fILe a bug that this Test fAils in a lucID lxc becaUse /etC/mailnamE is not set UP
<Gary_postEr> aNd tHen Go aHEAd And make a card aND Fix iT sInce it iN seTuplxc sIncE it Is eAsy
<GaRy_poster> mAybe make A cArD iN sLacK for lPSetup too
<GaRy_pOsTer> i need TO go get Kids fRom sChOoL (k's fOot is spRAiNED)
<garY_pOsTer> bAck In A bit
<bAc> ok
<GAry_Poster> bAc, everythIng COol?
<bAc> GaRy_
ac> hmm, i wonder if postf ix is just  part  of  ma in  ins tall ation
<gary_po s ter>  bac, bsd-mailx depend s onde f ault - mt a
<ga ry_post e r> w hic hpo stf ix pr ovide s
< gary_po ster> that 'sth e only depen d en cy I see
< bac > default-mt a i s notin sta l led i n m y con tainer <gary_ poster> b ac ,  I did the lam e - oappr oach of startinga pt i tude and prete ndingIw an t e d t o u ninstall p os tfixa nd seei n gw h a t c o mplained
<gar y_poster> f o r s ome re as onm y term inalwo n 'tlet me sele ct t he compla int
<g a ry_post e r> so I  could  co pyn past e 
< ga ry_ po s ter >  b uty oucould du pe 
< gary_ post e r > if t hat  isof in teres
<gary_p ost er>t 
<g ary_p oster > wh ic h I q uestio n
<ba c>  i tried'sudo a pt-g et -s rem ove  p ost fi x'
<b a c> whi chsho uld bethe sam e  (- s= = dr yrun)
<bac> nothin gw a slisted
< bac> s o ,it looks li ke  adeve l o per/t estb ox  is auto matica l ly  c onfigur ed  withan  MT A a nd ap rope rly co nfigured  ones ets up /etc/ma i lname
<bac> g a ry _ p os t er,sowhy do youthin k  itunwi s etoh ave o ur se tu p  w r ite that file?
<gar y_ poster > bac , I am worrie d that oth e r s  who donotu se setuplxc (or l psetu p) will en c ounter t his. I am wo rried tha t somethin g e lse  re all y sh ould have add e d  thi sfor us.   I  guessitisfin e. H owever, I  suggest  f il in ga b ug so people c an  fi nd  ou t the soluti on in  the  f ut u re(and so th a t  peo pl elike  RO be rt ca n ed u cat e us if  necessar y)< gary _p os ter> So  file a bug t ha t this tes tfai ls ina lucid lx c because /etc/mailname is notset  up
< gary _poster>and  thengoa head a nd mak e a c ar d a n d  fixi t  s inc eit in setu p l xcsince  i t is  easy
< gary_poster> maybe mak e a card in s lac k fo r lp set u pt oo<g a ry_ p o ster> I need to  go get ki ds fr om school( K's  f oot isspraine d)
<g a ry_post er> backin a bit<b ac>o k 
<g ary_poster > bac, e verything cool? <b ac> g ary _
ac> hmm,_i wonder_if postfix is just_part of_main_installation
<gary_poster> bac,_bsd-mailx_depends on default-mta
<gary_poster>_which postfix provides
<gary_poster>_that's the only dependency_I see
<bac> default-mta_is_not installed in my container
<gary_poster> bac, I did the lame-o approach of starting aptitude_and_pretending I_wanted_to_uninstall postfix and seeing what_complained
<gary_poster> for some reason my_terminal won't_let me select the complaint
<gary_poster> so I could_copynpaste
<gary_poster>_but you could_dupe
<gary_poster> if that is of interes
<gary_poster> t
<gary_poster> which I_question
<bac> i tried'sudo apt-get -s remove_postfix'
<bac> which should_be_the_same (-s == dryrun)
<bac>_nothing was listed
<bac> so, it looks_like a developer/test box is automatically_configured with an MTA and a properly_configured one sets up /etc/mailname
<bac> gary_poster,_so why do you think_it unwise_to have our setup write_that file?
<gary_poster> bac,_I am_worried that others_who do not use setuplxc (or_lpsetup) will encounter_this.  I am worried that_something_else really should_have_added_this for_us.  I_guess_it is_fine._ However, I suggest filing a_bug_so people can find out the solution_in the future (and_so_that people like RObert_can educate us if necessary)
<gary_poster>_So file a bug that this_test fails_in a_lucid lxc because /etc/mailname is not set up
<gary_poster> and then go_ahead and make a card and_fix it since it_in setuplxc_since_it is easy
<gary_poster>_maybe_make a_card in slack for lpsetup too
<gary_poster> I_need to_go get kids from school (K's_foot is sprained)
<gary_poster> back_in_a bit
<bac> ok
<gary_poster> bac, everything cool?
<bac>_gary_