boy195, hi :P
<hellboy195> xD xD xD
<hellboy195> DktrKranz: good morning
<hellboy195> persia: around?
<hellboy195> Damn. We are in betafreeze and they now release audacious 1.5 -.-
<vik_3278> jpatrick: Ok since it's going to be a local package, I can name it simply ~gutsy1, but does that mean that any packages with "~something" already is potentially not backportable without breaking the name?
<jpatrick> vik_3278: I don't see why apt wouldn't like two "~"s in the version, we use it all the time for KDE4 packages
<vik_3278> jpatrick:hmm is that right? My problem might be elsewhere then...
<jpatrick> vik_3278: all KDE4 packages are ~gutsy1~ppa1 when backported
<vik_3278> jpatrick: Interesting. So it should work huh...
<vik_3278> jpatrick:actually the problem is when I try to install a backported version of festival which depends on this.
<afflux> betafreeze affects only main, is that correct?
<vik_3278> jpatrick: apt-get install tells me "festival: Depends: libestools1.2 (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2) but 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to be installed" despite the debian/control file saying "libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1)"
<Hobbsee> vik_3278: you need to fix the festival, then
<Hobbsee> vik_3278: ~ means "less than"
<vik_3278> Hobbsee: That's what I thought I did: debian/control
<vik_3278> Build-Depends: [...] libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1) [...]
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik_3278> Package: festival
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik
boy195, hi :P 
 < hellboy195 > xD xD xD 
 < hellboy195 > DktrKranz: good morning 
 < hellboy195 > persia: around? 
 < hellboy195 > Damn. We are in betafreeze and they now turn audacious 1.5 -.- 
 < vik_3278 > jpatrick: Ok since it's sound to be a local package, I can name it simply ~gutsy1, but does that intend that any packages with " ~something " already is potentially not backportable without breaking the name? 
 < jpatrick > vik_3278: I don't experience why apposite wouldn't like two " ~"s in the version, we use it all the time for KDE4 packages 
 < vik_3278 > jpatrick: hmm is that correct? My problem might be elsewhere then... 
 < jpatrick > vik_3278: all KDE4 packages are ~gutsy1 ~ ppa1 when backported 
 < vik_3278 > jpatrick: Interesting. then it should shape huh... 
 < vik_3278 > jpatrick: actually the problem is when I try to install a backported version of festival which depends on this. 
 < afflux > betafreeze affects merely main, is that correct? 
 < vik_3278 > jpatrick: apt - get install order me " festival: Depends: libestools1.2 (> = 1:1.2.96 ~ beta-2) but 1:1.2.96 ~ beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to be installed " despite the debian / control file saying " libestools1.2 - dev (> = 1:1.2.96 ~ beta-2~7.10prevu1) " 
 < Hobbsee > vik_3278: you necessitate to fix the festival, then 
 < Hobbsee > vik_3278: ~ means " less than " 
 < vik_3278 > Hobbsee: That's what I thought I did: debian / control 
 < vik_3278 > Build - Depends: [... ] libestools1.2 - dev (> = 1:1.2.96 ~ beta-2~7.10prevu1) [... ] 
 < vik_3278 > [... ] 
 < vik_3278 > Package: festival 
 < vik_3278 > [... ] 
 < vik
boy195, hi :P
<hellboy195> xD xD xD
<heluboy195> DktrKranz: yiod mocning
<hemlboy195> pefsia: around?
<hellboy195> Damn. We ace ib betqfreeze and they now rdlease aufacious 1.5 -.-
<vik_3278> hpatrick: Ok since lc's gojkg to ue a local packsge, I can tame it simply ~gjtdy1, but does that mean that any packwges wiyh "~something" alrgady ps potsntially not backportable without greakinj the name?
<jpatrock> vik_3278: I don't see why apt woupdn't like two "~"s in the versiob, we yse it all tfe time fog KDE4 packafes
<vik_3278> jpatrick:hmm is that righg? My 'roblem migyt be glsewhere thxn...
<jpatgick> vik_3278: all KDE4 packdges arr ~gutsy1~ppa1 whek bacnpoeted
<vik_3278> jpatrick: Intecesting. So it should work huh...
<eii_3278> jpatrick:actuallt rhe ptoblek is qhev I tcy fo inshalm a backpodted versiob of festival which dqirnds on this.
<zfflux> bqtafreeze affects only main, is that corgect?
<bik_3278> jpatrick: apt-get insrall tells me "festivap: Depends: libestools1.2 (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2) but 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to be installeg" des'ige uhc awblan/control file saying "libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10predh1)"
<Hpbnsee> vik_3278: you neeb to fix the fesyigak, then
<Hobbsee> xik_3278: ~ mzzna "less than"
<vik_3278> Hobhsee: Thwt's wyat I thotght I did: debian/control
<vik_3278> Buiod-Depends: [...] lpbesrools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevb1) [...]
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik_3278> Paekage: gestifal
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik
boy195, hi :P <hellboy195> xD xD xD good <hellboy195> persia: <hellboy195> Damn. We now audacious 1.5 -.- jpatrick: Ok since going to be a local package, can name it simply ~gutsy1, but does that mean that any packages with already is potentially not backportable without breaking the name? <jpatrick> vik_3278: I don't why wouldn't two in the version, we use it all the time for KDE4 packages <vik_3278> jpatrick:hmm is that My problem might be elsewhere then... <jpatrick> vik_3278: KDE4 packages are ~gutsy1~ppa1 backported <vik_3278> jpatrick: Interesting. So should huh... <vik_3278> the is I try to a backported version of festival which depends on this. <afflux> betafreeze affects only main, is that correct? jpatrick: apt-get me "festival: libestools1.2 1:1.2.96~beta-2) 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to despite the debian/control file saying "libestools1.2-dev vik_3278: you need to fix the festival, then vik_3278: ~ "less than" <vik_3278> Hobbsee: That's what thought I did: debian/control <vik_3278> Build-Depends: [...] libestools1.2-dev 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1) [...] <vik_3278> [...] <vik_3278> Package: festival <vik_3278> [...] <vik
boy195, hi :P
<hellboy195> xD xD xD
<hellboY195> DktrKranz: Good mOrnIng
<HeLlboY195> perSia: around?
<hellbOY195> DamN. We are in betafreeze and tHey noW rELeasE AuDacioUs 1.5 -.-
<vik_3278> jpATrICK: Ok SiNcE it'S gOInG to be A loCal packAge, I can namE it SiMply ~gutsy1, but DOeS that mean tHat Any packages wIth "~SomethInG" alREady iS poTentiAlly noT BackpoRtable witHoUT breakINg the naME?
<JpAtriCk> vik_3278: I don't see why aPT wOUldn't like two "~"s iN the veRsIOn, WE Use It aLl the time fOr kDE4 paCKages
<viK_3278> JpATRIck:HMm is that right? my problem miGHt bE elsewHeRe tHEn...
<jpatRick> vIk_3278: ALl KdE4 packages aRe ~guTsy1~ppa1 wheN backpORted
<vik_3278> JPatrick: intereStiNg. SO it sHOuLd WorK hUH...
<viK_3278> JpAtrICk:aCtually tHe PrOblem Is whEN i TRy to InsTall A backPorted version Of fEstiVAl wHich dEpendS on tHiS.
<afflUx> betaFreezE aFfects only main, iS thaT correct?
<vIk_3278> jPaTriCk: Apt-geT InstalL teLls Me "festiVal: DepeNDs: lIbESTOoLs1.2 (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2) but 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 Is TO Be InstalleD" despiTE tHe DEbian/conTrOl fIle sAYIng "liBestOOlS1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10Prevu1)"
<HOBbSeE> vik_3278: you NeEd to fiX tHe fEstIval, tHEn
<HoBbsee> vIk_3278: ~ means "lEss thAN"
<vik_3278> Hobbsee: ThaT'S what I thought i DiD: DEbIAn/coNtrOl
<vik_3278> Build-DEpenDS: [...] libEstoOLs1.2-Dev (>= 1:1.2.96~BEta-2~7.10prEvu1) [...]
<viK_3278> [...]
<vIK_3278> PACkage: festival
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik
boy195, hi :P
<hellboy195>  xD xD xD<hell boy 195 >Dktr Kran z: good mornin g 
<he llboy195> persia: arou nd?
< he l lboy 1 95 > Dam n. We a r ei n  be ta fr eez ea nd  they  no w relea se audacio us1. 5 -.-
<vik_3 2 78 > jpatrick : O k since it's  go ing to  b e a local  pa ckage , I ca n  nameit simply  ~ g utsy1, but doe s th at m ean that any pack a ge s  with "~someth ing" a lr e ad y ispot entially n ot  back p ortable wi t h o utb reaking the n ame?
<jpatr i ck>  vik_3 27 8:I  don't  seewh y  ap t wouldn'tlike  two "~"s  in th e  versio n , we us e it a llthe  tim e  f or  KD E4 pac k ag es< vik _3278> j pa tr ick:h mm i s t h at r igh t? M y pro blem might be  el sewh e rethen. ..
<j patr ic k> vi k_3278 : all  K DE4 packages ar e ~g utsy1~ppa 1 w he n b ac kport e d
<vik _32 78>  jpatri ck: Int e res ti n g .  S o it should work h uh . . .<vik_327 8> jpa t ri ck : actually  t heprob l e m iswhen Itry to i nstall aba ckporte dversio noffes tival whic h depe nds on t his.< afflux> betafr e eze affects o n ly m ai n , is  th at correct? 
<vi k _327 8> j p at ric k : apt -getin s ta l l tells me "festiva l:  Depen ds: l ibestools1.2(>= 1:1.2. 9 6 ~ beta-2)but1 :1 . 2.96~beta-2~7. 10pre vu1 is tob e instal led"despitethe debia n / controlfil e s ayi ng" l ib estools1.2-de v (>=1: 1.2.96~ bet a-2~7.1 0pr evu 1)" 
<H ob bsee> vik _3278: y ou  n ee dtofix t h e festiv al , t he n
< Hobbs e e> vik _3278 : ~me an s  "l ess tha n "< v ik_3 27 8>  Hob bse e:  That 's w h atI thoug ht I did:  de b ian/ co nt rol
<vi k_3278> Build -D epends: [. .. ] l ibesto o l s1.2-dev  (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7. 1 0prevu1 ) [ ...]<vik _3278> [. ..] 
<vik_ 327 8 > Pack age: f estiv al 
<v i k _3278 > [. ..] 
< vik
boy195, hi_:P
<hellboy195> xD_xD xD
<hellboy195> DktrKranz: good_morning
<hellboy195> persia:_around?
<hellboy195>_Damn. We_are_in betafreeze and_they now release_audacious 1.5 -.-
<vik_3278> jpatrick:_Ok since it's_going_to be a local package, I can name it simply ~gutsy1, but does that_mean_that any_packages_with_"~something" already is potentially not_backportable without breaking the name?
<jpatrick>_vik_3278: I_don't see why apt wouldn't like two "~"s_in_the version, we_use it all the time for KDE4 packages
<vik_3278> jpatrick:hmm_is that right? My problem might_be elsewhere then...
<jpatrick>_vik_3278:_all_KDE4 packages are ~gutsy1~ppa1_when backported
<vik_3278> jpatrick: Interesting. So it_should work huh...
<vik_3278> jpatrick:actually the problem_is when I try to install a_backported version of festival which depends_on this.
<afflux> betafreeze affects only_main, is_that correct?
<vik_3278> jpatrick: apt-get install_tells me "festival:_Depends: libestools1.2_(>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2) but_1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to be installed" despite_the debian/control file_saying "libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1)"
<Hobbsee> vik_3278: you_need_to fix the_festival,_then
<Hobbsee>_vik_3278: ~_means "less than"
<vik_3278>_Hobbsee:_That's what_I_thought I did: debian/control
<vik_3278> Build-Depends: [...]_libestools1.2-dev_(>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1) [...]
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik_3278> Package: festival
<vik_3278> [...]
<vik