
<persia> Format: 3.0 (quilt) is just like using quilt as a Format: 1.0 patchsystem, except one doesn't build-dep on quilt.
<Rhonda> â¦ moreorless.
<persia> Well, yeah.
 * persia carefully ignores the dpkg implementation
<Rhonda> Keeping in mind that they are different things is needed to not get frustrated in cases it (still) behaves differently.
<nigelb> Rhonda: is there an easily recognized page that details sponsorship process in debian?
<Rhonda> e.g. format 3(quilt) on intention doesn't allow fuzzy patches, which quilt accepted quite readily.
<nigelb> I only see references to the thing
<Rhonda> nigelb: Well, just produce the source package, upload it somewhere and fire up a mail to the debian-mentors@lists.debian.org list.
<Rhonda> or find somone interested in the package who can act like your regular sponsor/mentor combination.
<nigelb> so, I'm supposed to mail the person
<Rhonda> No, the list. :)
<Rhonda> group of persons. :)
<nigelb> the documentation is so confusing.  it only says, go through sponsorship
<nigelb> I have someone who would be interested
<nigelb> trying to respond to a RFH
<persia> nigelb: An RFH bug?  reply to the bug.
<Rhonda> There is this mentors.debian.net service for uploading, but that doesn't really go around looking for sponsors, so just uploading there and waiting doesn't gain much.
<nigelb> I did reply.  so what do I do with the package I want sponsorship?
<Laney> If the submitter of the RFH is a DD, ask them for sponsoring.
<Rhonda> If there is a bug it closes you should also use that facility and either attach the debdiff to the mail or a link to your prepared sources.
<nigelb> ah, debdiff, attach to bug - now that makes sense
<nigelb> why can't it just be written in the new maintainer guide.. sigh
<Rhonda> Because debian is hard core. If you can
< persia > Format: 3.0 (quilt) is just like using quilt as a Format: 1.0 patchsystem, except one doesn't build - dep on quilt. 
 < Rhonda > â ¦ moreorless. 
 < persia > Well, yeah. 
  * persia carefully ignore the dpkg execution 
 < Rhonda > Keeping in mind that they are unlike things is want to not get thwart in cases it (still) act differently. 
 < nigelb > Rhonda: is there an easily recognized page that detail sponsorship process in debian? 
 < Rhonda > e.g. format 3(quilt) on purpose doesn't allow fuzzy patches, which quilt accepted quite readily. 
 < nigelb > I only see address to the thing 
 < Rhonda > nigelb: Well, just produce the reservoir package, upload it somewhere and fire up a mail to the debian-mentors@lists.debian.org list. 
 < Rhonda > or detect somone interested in the package who can act like your regular sponsor / mentor combination. 
 < nigelb > therefore, I'm supposed to mail the person 
 < Rhonda > No, the list. :) 
 < Rhonda > group of persons. :) 
 < nigelb > the documentation is so confusing.   it only says, go through sponsorship 
 < nigelb > I have someone who would be interested 
 < nigelb > trying to respond to a RFH 
 < persia > nigelb: An RFH bug?   reply to the bug. 
 < Rhonda > There is this mentors.debian.net service for uploading, but that doesn't truly go around expect for patron, so just uploading there and wait doesn't gain much. 
 < nigelb > I did answer.   so what do I do with the package I desire sponsorship? 
 < Laney > If the submitter of the RFH is a DD, ask them for sponsoring. 
 < Rhonda > If there is a bug it closes you should besides use that facility and either attach the debdiff to the mail or a link to your prepared sources. 
 < nigelb > ah, debdiff, bind to bug - now that makes sense 
 < nigelb > why can't it just be write in the new maintainer guide.. sigh 
 < Rhonda > Because debian is unvoiced core. If you can

<perdia> Format: 3.0 (quilt) is jusu like using quilj qs a Fmrmat: 1.0 patchsyrtem, except one doesn't build-vep in quult.
<Rhonda> â¦ moreorless.
<pdrsia> Welp, yeah.
 * persma carefully ignores the dpkg jlplekxntation
<Rhonda> Leeping in mind that thef xrz different things is needed to not det fruxtgated in cases it (xeill) behaves differently.
<nigelb> Rhonda: js thert an easily recognozed page that details spojsordhip process in dehian?
<Rhonda> g.f. fjemat 3(quilt) ov intention doesn't allkw fuzzy patches, which quilt aczepteb quite reaeioy.
<nlcelb> I only see geferences to the thitg
<Rhonds> nigelb: Well, must 'rodyce the source packagx, upload it somewherg and fire u' a mail to the debiab-mwntorv@lisds.decuan.urg lmst.
<Dhonda> or find somohe interestwd in the package wno bsn act like gour rqgtlar sponsor/mentor combination.
<nigelb> so, I'm supposed to mail the pwrson
<Rhonda> No, the lidt. :)
<Rhonda> group of persons. :)
<nigelb> the documentation is so wonfuakng.  lt ovoy says, go through sponsorship
<nigelb> I have somqknt wmo would be intevested
<nigelb> tryinb ho tespond to a RWH
<persnz> higelb: An RFH bug?  reply jo the bug.
<Rhondw> Thrre is this mentors.debian.ner service fog upooading, but that dlesn't reallv go atound kooking for sponsors, so jusf uploading there ans waiting doesn't eaik mgch.
<nigelb> I did reply.  so rhat do I do cith the paclage I want spondorshl[?
<Laney> If the submltter ox the RFH ls a DD, ask them for sponsoring.
<Cionda> If therg iv a bug it eloses you should ajso use that fccility cnd eigher attacg the dxbdiff to thq mail or a lhjk to your pcepared sjurcws.
<nitelb> ah, aebdiff, attach to bug - ujw tyat makes sense
<nigclb> wfg can't it just yt wtutten in the nrw oaigtwiier gthde.. sigh
<Rhonga> Bdcajxe decian is harb zore. If you can
<persia> Format: 3.0 (quilt) is just like as Format: 1.0 except one doesn't moreorless. Well, yeah. * carefully ignores the implementation <Rhonda> Keeping in mind that are different things is needed to not get frustrated in cases it (still) differently. <nigelb> Rhonda: is there an easily recognized page that details sponsorship process debian? e.g. 3(quilt) intention doesn't allow fuzzy patches, which quilt accepted quite readily. <nigelb> I only see references to thing <Rhonda> nigelb: Well, just produce the source upload it somewhere and up a mail to the list. or find interested the who can act your regular sponsor/mentor combination. <nigelb> so, I'm supposed to mail the person <Rhonda> No, the list. :) group of <nigelb> the is confusing. only says, go <nigelb> I have someone who would trying to respond to a RFH <persia> nigelb: RFH bug? to the bug. <Rhonda> There is mentors.debian.net service for uploading, but that doesn't really around looking for sponsors, so just uploading there and waiting doesn't gain much. <nigelb> I so what do I with the package want <Laney> the of the is a DD, ask them for sponsoring. <Rhonda> If there is bug it closes you should also use that facility and the to the mail a link to your sources. ah, debdiff, attach to now makes can't just written in the new guide.. sigh <Rhonda> Because debian hard core. If you

<persia> Format: 3.0 (quilt) is just liKe using quiLt as a forMat: 1.0 PaTchsYsteM, except one doesN'T buiLd-dep on quilt.
<Rhonda> â¦ morEorleSs.
<PErsiA> weLl, yeaH.
 * persia CArEFUllY iGnOreS tHE dPkg imPleMentatiOn
<Rhonda> KeEpiNg In mind that thEY aRe differenT thIngs is needed To nOt get fRuStrATed in CasEs it (sTill) beHAves diFferently.
<NiGElb> RhoNDa: is theRE An EasiLy recognized page tHAt DEtails sponsorsHip proCeSS iN DEbiAn?
<RHonda> e.g. forMaT 3(quilT) On intenTIoN DOEsn'T Allow fuzzy patChes, which quILt aCcepteD qUitE ReadilY.
<nigeLb> i OnlY see referenCes tO the thing
<rhonda> NIgelb: WeLL, just prOduce tHe sOurCe paCKaGe, UplOaD It sOMeWheRE anD fire up a MaIl To the DebiAN-MENtorS@liSts.dEbian.Org list.
<Rhonda> Or fInd sOMonE inteResteD in tHe PackaGe who cAn act LiKe your regular spOnsoR/mentor coMbiNaTioN.
<nIgelb> SO, I'm supPosEd tO mail thE person
<rHonDa> nO, THe List. :)
<Rhonda> group of pErSONs. :)
<Nigelb> thE documENtAtIOn is so coNfUsiNg.  it ONLy sayS, go tHRoUgh sponsOrship
<NIgElB> I have sOmEone whO wOulD be InterESted
<Nigelb> Trying to RespoND to a RFH
<persia> nIGelb: An RFH bug?  rEPlY TO tHE bug.
<rhoNda> There is tHis mENtorS.debIAn.Net SErvicE for uPlOAdINg, but that doesn't realLy Go arouNd looKing for sponsoRs, so just upLOADing therE and WAiTIng doesn't gain mUch.
<niGelb> I did rePLy.  so what Do I do With the pAckage I waNT SponsorsHip?
<lanEy> IF thE SUbMitter of the RFh IS a DD, AsK them foR spOnsorinG.
<RhOndA> If TheRe Is a bug it cLoses you ShOuLd AlSo uSe thaT Facility AnD eiThEr aTtach THe debdIff to The mAiL oR A liNk to youR PrEPAred SoUrCes.
<nIgeLb> Ah, debDiff, ATtaCh to bug - Now that maKes SEnse
<NiGeLb> why caN't it just be wriTtEn in the new MaIntAiner gUIDe.. sigh
<RhOnda> Because debian is hard COre. If yoU caN

<persia> Format: 3.0 (qui lt) is jus t lik e u sin gquil t as  a Format: 1.0 patc hsystem, except one do esn't  b u ild- d ep  on q uilt.
< R ho n d a>â ¦mor eo r le ss.
< per sia> We ll, yeah. *pe rsia careful l yignores th e d pkg implemen tat ion
<R ho nda >  Keep ing  in m ind th a t they  are diff er e nt thi n gs is n e e de d to  not get frustrat e di n cases it (st ill) b eh a ve s dif fer ently.
<ni ge lb> R h onda: i s  t h e r e a n  easily recog nized paget hat  detai ls  sp o nsorsh ip pr oc e ssin debian?<Rho nda> e.g.  forma t  3(quil t ) on in tentio n d oes n'ta ll ow  fu zz y  pa t ch es, whi ch quilt  a cc epted  qui t e r eadi ly. 
<ni gelb>  I only see r efe renc e s t o the  thin g
<R ho nda>nigelb : Wel l,  just produce t he s ource pac kag e,  up lo ad it somewh ere  an d fireup a ma i l t ot h e  d ebian-mentors@list s. d e bi an.org l ist.
< R ho nd a > or fin dsom onei n teres tedi nthe pack age wh o  c an  act li ke  yourre gul arspons o r/me ntor c ombinati on.
< n igelb> so, I'm supposed to m a il t he pers on<Rhonda> No , th e  lis t. : ) 
< Rho n da> g roupof pe r sons. :)
<nigelb> t he  docum entat ion is so con fusing.  i t o nly says , go th r ough sponsorsh ip
<n igelb> I h a ve someo ne wh o wouldbe intere s t ed
<nige lb>  tr yin g t o re spond to a RF H <per si a> nige lb:  An RFH  bu g? re ply  t o the bug .
<Rhond a>  T he re  is  this mentors. de bia n. net  serv i ce for  uplo adin g,  b u t t hat doe s n' t real ly  g o ar oun dlooki ng f o r s ponsors , so just  up l oadi ng  t here an d waiting doe sn 't gain mu ch .
< nigelb > I did re ply.  so what do I do w i th thepac kageI wa nt sponso rsh ip?
<L ane y > If t he sub mitte roft h e RFH i sa D D,  ask themf o r s ponso ri ng.<Rhonda > If there is a bu g  it  closes you s hou ld a l s ouse th a t f ac i lit y and either atta ch the deb di f fto the mai l  or  a  link t o yourprepa r ed sour ces.
<nig elb> ah,de bdif f ,  at tach to bu g - nowthat make s  sens e 
< nigel b>why ca n' t i t jus t be w r itt en in  the n ew  maint ainer  g uide.. s igh
<Rhonda> Because de bian i s har d c ore. If y ouc an

<persia> Format:_3.0 (quilt)_is just like using_quilt as_a_Format: 1.0_patchsystem,_except one doesn't_build-dep on quilt.
<Rhonda>_â¦ moreorless.
<persia> Well, yeah.
_* persia carefully_ignores_the dpkg implementation
<Rhonda> Keeping in mind that they are different things is needed to_not_get frustrated_in_cases_it (still) behaves differently.
<nigelb> Rhonda:_is there an easily recognized_page that_details sponsorship process in debian?
<Rhonda> e.g. format 3(quilt)_on_intention doesn't allow_fuzzy patches, which quilt accepted quite readily.
<nigelb> I only_see references to the thing
<Rhonda> nigelb:_Well, just produce_the_source_package, upload it somewhere_and fire up a mail to_the debian-mentors@lists.debian.org list.
<Rhonda> or find somone_interested in the package who can act_like your regular sponsor/mentor combination.
<nigelb> so,_I'm supposed to mail the_person
<Rhonda> No,_the list. :)
<Rhonda> group of_persons. :)
<nigelb> the_documentation is_so confusing. _it only says, go through sponsorship
<nigelb>_I have someone_who would be interested
<nigelb> trying to_respond_to a RFH
<persia>_nigelb:_An_RFH bug?_ reply to_the_bug.
<Rhonda> There_is_this mentors.debian.net service for uploading, but_that_doesn't really go around looking for sponsors,_so just uploading there_and_waiting doesn't gain much.
<nigelb>_I did reply.  so_what do I do with the_package I_want sponsorship?
<Laney>_If the submitter of the RFH is a DD, ask them_for sponsoring.
<Rhonda> If there is a_bug it closes you_should also_use_that facility and_either_attach the_debdiff to the mail or a link_to your_prepared sources.
<nigelb> ah, debdiff, attach to_bug - now that_makes_sense
<nigelb> why can't it just be_written in the new maintainer guide.._sigh
<Rhonda> Because debian is hard_core._If_you can