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<Mithrandir> Lure: so riddell asked me to postpone it until he had a chance to test it.
<ohnett> when will the live and install cd be merged together?
<Mithrandir> they won't?
<jpatrick> Mithrandir: I think he means Expresso
<Lure> Mithrandir: then Flight5 wiki page has to change to reflect this
<Mithrandir> jpatrick: espresso is on the flight cd already.
<ohnett> when will the live and install cd be merged together?
<ohnett> anybody?
<Mithrandir> ohnett: they won't.
<ohnett> Mithrandir: they were promissing they would
<Mithrandir> ohnett: "they"?  I think you're the victim of a misunderstanding.
<Mithrandir> the live cd can be used for installations, but it's not going to replace the install cd completely.
<ohnett> which one will be shipped for free? "they" said it's less expensive to only send one rather than two and they would very much want to only send one from now one. which one?
<ohnett> Mithrandir:
<Mithrandir> ohnett: yes, there's talk of just including the live cd in the shipit program, but that doesn't mean the install cd is going away.
<ohnett> s/now\ one/now\ on/
<Mithrandir> just that it won't be part of shipit
<ohnett> Mithrandir: that's nice. so we hope the install cd will be going away as soon as possible (or replaced with an installable dvd).
<dolzzzon> I rather like the install CD
<Mithrandir> ohnett: a) it won't go away.  b) there already exists an installable dvd
<ohnett> dolzzzon: why?
<ohnett> dolzzzon: what is the advantage?
<Mithrandir> it's much easier to install using d-i than espresso, IMO.  And much better when you're dealing with a server and such
<minghua> and I doubt espresso has better i18n support than d-i
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 < Mithrandir > Lure: so riddell ask me to postpone it until he have a chance to test it. 
 < ohnett > when will the live and install cd be blend together? 
 < Mithrandir > they won't? 
 < jpatrick > Mithrandir: I think he intend Expresso 
 < bait > Mithrandir: then Flight5 wiki page has to switch to reflect this 
 < Mithrandir > jpatrick: espresso is on the flight compact disk already. 
 < ohnett > when will the live and install cd be merged in concert? 
 < ohnett > anybody? 
 < Mithrandir > ohnett: they won't. 
 < ohnett > Mithrandir: they were promissing they would 
 < Mithrandir > ohnett: " they "?   I think you're the victim of a misunderstanding. 
 < Mithrandir > the live cd can be used for installations, but it's not going to replace the install cd wholly. 
 < ohnett > which one will be shipped for free? " they " said it's less expensive to entirely send one rather than two and they would very a lot want to entirely send one from immediately one. which one? 
 < ohnett > Mithrandir: 
 < Mithrandir > ohnett: yes, there's talk of just including the hot cd in the shipit program, but that doesn't mean the install cd is going away. 
 < ohnett > s / now\ one / now\ on/ 
 < Mithrandir > just that it won't be part of shipit 
 < ohnett > Mithrandir: that's nice. so we hope the install cd will be going away as soon as possible (or replaced with an installable dvd). 
 < dolzzzon > I rather like the install cadmium 
 < Mithrandir > ohnett: a) it won't go away.   b) there already exist an installable videodisk 
 < ohnett > dolzzzon: why? 
 < ohnett > dolzzzon: what is the advantage? 
 < Mithrandir > it's a lot easier to install using d - i than espresso, IMO.   And much better when you're dealing with a server and such 
 < minghua > and I doubt espresso get better i18n support than d - i
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<Mithranair> Lure: so ridbwll asned me to postoone it until he had a chancx to test it.
<ohnett> when will thd live anf instalo cd ve merged vkgether?
<Mithrahfir> chxy won't?
<jpatrick> Mithrandis: I think he maavs Expresso
<Lure> Mithrandir: then Flighe5 wiki lahe has to chande tp refmvcu this
<Mithrandir> jpatrick: espressk is on the flight cc already.
<ohnett> when will hhe pive and install cf be merged togqrher?
<ohnett> avybody?
<Mithgcndir> ohnetj: they won't.
<ohnett> Mithrandir: theh werz promissint rhej would
<Mithrendir> jhnett: "they"?  I think you're yhe victim of s mmsuneerstanding.
<Mithrandir> the live cd can bg used for iustallations, but it's bor goitg tm reooacd tge ihstall cd completelg.
<ohnett> whixh one will be shipked dor free? "they" said yt'f less expensive to only send one ratheg thzn two and they would vwry much want to only send one from now one. which one?
<ohnett> Mithrandir:
<Mithrandis> ohnxtg: yts, therd'w halk of just including the live cd in the shi[jt pgogram, but that djesn't mean yhf ogstall cd is eoing csag.
<ohnett> s/now\ one/noa\ on/
<Mitrrandur> just trat ot won't be part of shipit
<ohbett> Mithranbir: that's nice. so we kope the inscall cc wilk be going away as soon as lossible (or replaced dith an installacle ded).
<dolzzzon> I rather like tre instalo CD
<Kithranair> phnett: a) it won't go away.  b) there alreadj exidtv an instaplable dvd
<ohnett> dolzzzon: why?
<ohixtt> dolzzzon: ehdt ps the adrantagc?
<Mithrandir> it's much easier tp instajl uskng d-i thah esprevso, IMO.  Anq much better ahen you're dxaling wieh a sercer and ruch
<minghua> anc I doubt espresso yas better i18n suppprt fhan d-i
busy testing ubuntu. <Mithrandir> Lure: so riddell to it until had a chance will live and install be merged together? they won't? <jpatrick> Mithrandir: I think means Expresso <Lure> Mithrandir: then Flight5 wiki page has to change to reflect <Mithrandir> jpatrick: espresso is on the flight cd already. <ohnett> when will the and cd merged <ohnett> anybody? <Mithrandir> ohnett: they won't. <ohnett> Mithrandir: they were promissing they would <Mithrandir> ohnett: "they"? think you're the victim of a misunderstanding. <Mithrandir> live cd can be for installations, but it's not to the install completely. which will be shipped free? "they" said it's less expensive to only send one rather than two and they would very want to one from one. one? Mithrandir: <Mithrandir> ohnett: talk of just including the live shipit program, but that doesn't mean the install is going <ohnett> s/now\ one/now\ on/ <Mithrandir> just it won't be part of shipit <ohnett> Mithrandir: nice. so we hope the install cd will be going away as soon as possible with an installable dvd). I rather like install <Mithrandir> a) won't go b) there already exists an installable dvd <ohnett> dolzzzon: why? <ohnett> what is the advantage? <Mithrandir> it's much easier to install than IMO. And much when you're dealing with server such <minghua> and I has i18n
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<MithrandIr> Lure: so riDdell AskEd mE tO posTponE it until he had a CHancE to test it.
<ohnett> when wilL the lIvE And iNStAll cd Be mergeD ToGETheR?
<MItHraNdIR> tHey woN't?
<jPatrick> mithrandir: i thInK he means ExprESsO
<Lure> MithrAndIr: then Flight5 WikI page hAs To cHAnge tO reFlect This
<MiTHrandiR> jpatrick: EsPResso iS On the flIGHt Cd alReady.
<ohnett> when wiLL tHE live and instalL cd be mErGEd TOGetHer?
<Ohnett> anybOdY?
<MithRAndir> ohNEtT: THEy wON't.
<ohnett> MithrAndir: they weRE prOmissiNg TheY Would
<MIthraNdIR> ohNett: "they"?  I thInk yOu're the viCtim of A MisundeRStandinG.
<MithrAndIr> tHe liVE cD cAn bE uSEd fOR iNstALlaTions, but It'S nOt goiNg to REPLAce tHe iNstaLl cd cOmpletely.
<ohneTt> wHich ONe wIll be ShippEd foR fRee? "thEy" said It's leSs Expensive to only Send One rather ThaN tWo aNd They wOUld verY muCh wAnt to onLy send oNE frOm NOW OnE. which one?
<ohnett> MitHrANDiR:
<MithranDir> ohnETt: YeS, There's taLk Of jUst iNCLudinG the LIvE cd in the Shipit PRoGrAm, but thAt Doesn't MeAn tHe iNstalL Cd is Going aWay.
<ohnetT> s/now\ ONe/now\ on/
<MithranDIr> just that it wON't BE PaRT of sHipIt
<ohnett> MitHranDIr: thAt's nICe. So wE Hope tHe insTaLL cD Will be going away as soOn As possIble (oR replaced with An installaBLE Dvd).
<dolzzZon> I RAtHEr like the instaLl CD
<MIthrandir> oHNett: a) it wOn't go Away.  b) theRe already EXIsts an inStaLlaBle Dvd
<OHNeTt> dolzzzon: why?
<OHNett> DoLzzzon: wHat Is the adVanTagE?
<MiThrAnDir> it's mucH easier tO iNsTaLl UsiNg d-i tHAn espresSo, iMO.  anD muCh betTEr when You're DealInG wITh a Server aND sUCH
<minGhUa> And I DouBt EspreSso hAS beTter i18n sUpport thaN d-i
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<Mit hrandir> L ure:sorid de ll a sked  me to postpon e  ituntil he had a chanceto te st it.< oh nett>  when w i ll t heli ve  an di ns tallcdbe merg ed togethe r?<M ithrandir> t h ey  won't?
<j pat rick> Mithra ndi r: I t hi nkh e mea nsExpre sso
<L u re> Mi thrandir:  t h en Fli g ht5 wik i pa ge h as to change to r e fl e ct this
<Mithr andir>  j p at r i ck:  es presso ison  thef light c d  a l r e ady . 
<ohnett> whe n will thel ive  and i ns tal l  cd be  merg ed tog ether?
<ohn ett>  anybody? 
<Mith r andir>o hnett:they w on' t.<ohn e tt >Mit hr a ndi r :the y  we re promi ss in g the y wo u l d <Mit hra ndir > ohn ett: "they"? Ithin k  yo u'rethe v icti mof amisund ersta nd ing.
<Mithrandi r> t he live c d c an  be  u sed f o r inst all ati ons, bu t it'sn otgo i n g  t o replace the inst al l cd  complet ely.
< o hn et t > whichon e w illb e  ship pedf or  free? " they"s ai dit's le ss  expen si vetoonlys endone ra ther tha n two and they would very much wan t  t o on l y se ndone from no w on e . wh icho ne ?
< o hnett > Mit hr a nd i r:
<Mithrandir> ohn et t: yes , the re's talk ofjust inclu d i n g the li ve c d  i n  the shipit pr ogram , but that doesn'tmeanthe inst all cd is g oing awa y.<oh net t>s / no w\ one/now\ o n / 
<Mi th randir>  ju st that  it  wo n't  be  p art of sh ipit
<oh ne tt >Mi thr andir :  that'sni ce.  s o w e hop e  the i nstal l cd  w il l  be  goinga wa y as s oo nas p oss ib le (o r re p lac ed with  an insta lla b le d vd ). 
<dolzz zon> I rather  l ike the in st all  CD
<M i t hrandir>  ohnett: a) it won't go away. b)there  alr eady exis tsan ins tal l able d vd
<oh nett>  d olz z z on: w h y ?<oh ne tt> dolzzz o n : w hat i stheadvanta ge?
<Mithrandir> i t 'smuch easier t o i nsta l l  u sin g  d - i t ha n  es p r esso, IMO.  And  much bett er wh en you'red eal in g witha serve r and such
<m inghua> a nd I doub tespr e s sohas better  i18n su pport tha n  d-i
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<Mithrandir>_Lure: so riddell asked_me to_postpone_it until_he_had a chance_to test it.
<ohnett>_when will the live_and install cd_be_merged together?
<Mithrandir> they won't?
<jpatrick> Mithrandir: I think he means Expresso
<Lure> Mithrandir: then Flight5 wiki_page_has to_change_to_reflect this
<Mithrandir> jpatrick: espresso is_on the flight cd already.
<ohnett>_when will_the live and install cd be merged together?
<ohnett>_anybody?
<Mithrandir>_ohnett: they won't.
<ohnett>_Mithrandir: they were promissing they would
<Mithrandir> ohnett: "they"? _I think you're the victim of_a misunderstanding.
<Mithrandir> the_live_cd_can be used for_installations, but it's not going to_replace the install cd completely.
<ohnett> which_one will be shipped for free? "they"_said it's less expensive to only_send one rather than two_and they_would very much want to_only send one_from now_one. which one?
<ohnett>_Mithrandir:
<Mithrandir> ohnett: yes, there's talk of_just including the_live cd in the shipit program,_but_that doesn't mean_the_install_cd is_going away.
<ohnett> s/now\_one/now\_on/
<Mithrandir> just_that_it won't be part of shipit
<ohnett>_Mithrandir:_that's nice. so we hope the install_cd will be going_away_as soon as possible_(or replaced with an installable_dvd).
<dolzzzon> I rather like the install_CD
<Mithrandir> ohnett:_a) it_won't go away.  b) there already exists an installable dvd
<ohnett>_dolzzzon: why?
<ohnett> dolzzzon: what is the_advantage?
<Mithrandir> it's much easier_to install_using_d-i than espresso,_IMO._ And_much better when you're dealing with a_server and_such
<minghua> and I doubt espresso has_better i18n support than_d-i