essial> I work better with lists :) Ubuntu is a large collection of things
<lmr_> RAOF: essial: I've been trying to find out some time to help, I'd love to start packaging software for ubuntu
<fmarier> How does one request a sync (from Debian unstable) for a package which has Ubuntu modifications that need to remain there?
<fmarier> requestsync asks for a reason to remove the Ubuntu modifications...
<ScottK2> fmarier: If the differences need to remain, it's a merge, not a sync
<RAOF> fmarier: One doesn't.  One instead merges the Ubuntu changes into the new debian revision.
<essial> RAOF: see things like that throw me off right now, so I need to be eased into the linux way of things :)
<RAOF> essial: You can pick a package or group of packages that you're interested in and check out the bugs in Launchpad.
<essial> so I guess step one is to create a user in launchpad, brb
<RAOF> Or, you can find a specific upstream project that you're interested in, and join up.
<ScottK2> fmarier: Prepare a debdiff from the new Debian revision to the needed Ubuntu revision attach that to a bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<fmarier> ScottK2: ok, I'll do that. thanks
<lmr_> RAOF: I was thinking, since I work mainly with open source testing and I already contribute with an upstream test project, maybe there's a Ubuntu quality assurance/test team where my skills can be better used
<RAOF> lmr_: Of course, at the moment what really needs to be done is to fix packages already in Ubuntu.
<essial> perhaps help make rhythymbox not suck so much, as it seems to be what ubuntu thinks is the replacement for the superior xmms
<lmr_> RAOF: Sure, that's what I meant, taking maintainership of software that's already packaged (orphaned maybe) would be great
<essial> even though once it drops a stream, you have to restart it
<RAOF> lmr_: I believe there is such a group, but I don't know for sure.  You could also help the iso testing team test the releases (alpha X, etc
essial > I work better with lists :) Ubuntu is a large solicitation of thing 
 < lmr _ > RAOF: essial: I've been trying to find out some meter to serve, I'd love to start promotion software for ubuntu 
 < fmarier > How does one request a sync (from Debian unstable) for a package which has Ubuntu alteration that need to remain there? 
 < fmarier > requestsync ask for a reason to remove the Ubuntu modification... 
 < ScottK2 > fmarier: If the difference need to persist, it's a merge, not a sync 
 < RAOF > fmarier: One doesn't.   One instead unify the Ubuntu changes into the new debian revision. 
 < essial > RAOF: learn things like that throw me off right now, so I necessitate to be eased into the linux way of things :) 
 < RAOF > essial: You can pick a package or group of software that you're interested in and check out the bugs in Launchpad. 
 < essial > so I guess step one is to create a user in launchpad, brb 
 < RAOF > Or, you can find a specific upstream project that you're interested in, and join up. 
 < ScottK2 > fmarier: Prepare a debdiff from the new Debian revision to the needed Ubuntu revision bind that to a bug and subscribe ubuntu - population - patron 
 < fmarier > ScottK2: ok, I'll dress that. thanks 
 < lmr _ > RAOF: I was thinking, since I work chiefly with open beginning testing and I already contribute with an upstream trial project, maybe there's a Ubuntu quality assurance / test team where my skills can be better used 
 < RAOF > lmr _: Of course, at the moment what really needs to be serve is to pay back packages already in Ubuntu. 
 < essial > perhaps help make rhythymbox not suck therefore much, as it seems to be what ubuntu thinks is the substitute for the superior xmms 
 < lmr _ > RAOF: Sure, that's what I meant, taking maintainership of software that's already packaged (orphan maybe) would be great 
 < essial > even though once it drops a stream, you have to resume it 
 < RAOF > lmr _: I believe there is such a group, but I don't know for sure.   You could besides help the iso testing team screen the releases (alpha X, etc
esslal> I work better with llsts :) Ubuntu is c large colledtion of things
<lmr_> RAOF: essial: I've bxen rryint to find out some timd to help, I'd love to wrart packajjng sofbcare rlr uyuitu
<fmarier> How coes one raquest a sync (xrum Debian unstable) for a package whicr has Unujtu modificatijns uhae nesd to remain there?
<fmarier> requestsgnc askv for a reasom to remove the Ubuntu modlficwtions...
<ScottK2> fmarifr: If the duffewwnces need tu remain, iu's a merge, nkt a sync
<RAOF> fmarier: One doesn'g.  Onz instead mgxtes jhe Ubuntu cianges into the new debian revisipn.
<essial> RAOF: xee thungs like that throw ke off right now, sj I need do be eased into thw oinux way of gyines :)
<DAPF> essiap: Yku can pici a package or group of packagts eyat you're intsresteq yn and check out the bugs in Launchpad.
<evsizl> so I guess step one us to create a user ij launchpwd, brb
<RAOF> Or, you can find a specific upstream prmject ghau njj'ee interested in, and join up.
<ScottK2> fmarier: Prepwde a debdiff from bhe new Debian revoslom to the needea Ubunch devision attach thwt to a bug qnd subscwibe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<fmaruer> ScottK2: oh, I'll do that. thankd
<lmr_> RAOF: I was thinling, since I work mainlv with open sourcf testing xnd I already covtrpbuta with an upstream test prjject, mayue thzre's a Ucunto qualiey assuranfe/tesb team where my skipls ccn be better usfd
<RAOF> lmr_: Of course, at the momxit what realli naedv to be bone ix to fix packwges already iu Ubuntu.
<zssial> perhaps hvlp make chythymbox njt suck so muwj, as it seemv to be rhat ububtu thivys is the replscement for the supwrior xmms
<lmr_> RAOF: Sute, that's what I mzcnu, raking maintaimerrhi[ lf sjxtware that's alrdadh packxged (orkkancd oaybr) would be great
<essidl> eben though once it dvops a stteam, you rave to restatt it
<RAOF> lmr_: I bepieve thxre is sush a group, but I don't know for sure.  Yok cjuld also hejp tme ifo testing team test the releases (alpha X, etc
essial> I work better with lists :) a collection of <lmr_> RAOF: essial: out time to help, love to start software for ubuntu <fmarier> How does request a sync (from Debian unstable) for a package which has Ubuntu modifications need to remain there? <fmarier> requestsync asks for a reason to remove the modifications... fmarier: the need to remain, it's a merge, not a sync <RAOF> fmarier: One doesn't. One instead merges Ubuntu changes into the new debian revision. <essial> see things like that me off right now, so need be eased the way things :) <RAOF> You can pick a package or group of packages that you're interested in and check out the in Launchpad. I guess one to a user in <RAOF> Or, you can find a that you're interested in, and join up. <ScottK2> Prepare a from the new Debian revision to needed Ubuntu revision attach that to a bug subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors <fmarier> ScottK2: ok, I'll do that. thanks <lmr_> RAOF: I was thinking, since mainly with open source and I already with upstream project, there's a quality assurance/test team where my skills can be better used <RAOF> Of course, at the moment what really needs to be to packages already in <essial> perhaps help make not so much, as it be ubuntu replacement the xmms <lmr_> RAOF: Sure, what I meant, taking maintainership software that's already packaged <essial> even though once it drops a stream, have to restart it <RAOF> lmr_: I there is such a group, but I don't know for sure. You also help testing team test the releases (alpha X, etc
essial> I work better with listS :) Ubuntu is a Large ColLecTiOn of ThinGs
<lmr_> RAOF: essiaL: i've bEen trying to find out some Time tO hELp, I'd LOvE to stArt packAGiNG SofTwArE foR uBUnTu
<fmaRieR> How doeS one requesT a sYnC (from Debian uNStAble) for a paCkaGe which has UbUntU modifIcAtiONs thaT neEd to rEmain tHEre?
<fmaRier> requeStSYnc askS For a reaSON tO remOve the Ubuntu modifICaTIons...
<ScottK2> fmarIer: If tHe DIfFERenCes Need to remaIn, It's a mERge, not a SYnC
<raoF> fMArier: One doesn'T.  One instead MErgEs the UBuNtu CHanges Into tHe NEw dEbian revisiOn.
<esSial> RAOF: sEe thinGS like thAT throw mE off riGht Now, So I nEEd To Be eAsED inTO tHe lINux Way of thiNgS :)
<RaOF> esSial: yOU CAn piCk a PackAge or Group of packagEs tHat yOU're InterEsted In anD cHeck oUt the bUgs in laUnchpad.
<essial> so i gueSs step one Is tO cReaTe A user IN launcHpaD, brB
<RAOF> Or, You can fINd a SpECIFiC upstream project thAt YOU'rE interesTed in, aND jOiN Up.
<ScottK2> FmAriEr: PrEPAre a dEbdiFF fRom the neW DebiaN ReViSion to tHe Needed ubUntU reVisioN AttaCh that To a bug anD subsCRibe ubuntu-univERse-sponsors
<fmARiER> scOTtK2: oK, I'lL do that. thanKs
<lmR_> rAOF: i was THiNkiNG, sincE I worK mAInLY with open source testInG and I aLreadY contribute wiTh an upstreAM TEst projeCt, maYBe THere's a Ubuntu quAlity Assurance/tESt team whEre my Skills caN be better USEd
<RAOF> lmR_: Of CouRse, At tHE MoMent what reallY NEeds To Be done iS to Fix packAgeS alReaDy iN UBuntu.
<essiAl> perhapS hElP mAkE rhYthymBOx not sucK sO muCh, As iT seemS To be whAt ubuNtu tHiNkS Is tHe replaCEmENT for ThE sUperIor XmMs
<lmr_> rAOF: sUre, That's whAt I meant, tAkiNG maiNtAiNership Of software thaT's Already pacKaGed (OrphanED Maybe) wouLd be great
<essial> even thouGH once it DroPs a stReam, You have to ResTart it
<rAOf> Lmr_: I beLieve tHere iS sUch A GRoup, bUT i dOn't KnOw for sure.  YOU CouLd alsO hElp tHe iso teSting team test the reLEasEs (alpha X, etc
essial> I work better with  lists :)Ubunt u i s a  l arge  col lection of thi n gs
< lmr_> RAOF: essial: I' ve be en tryi n gto fi nd outs om e tim eto  he lp ,  I 'd lo veto star t packagin g s of tware for ub u nt u
<fmarier > H ow does onereq uest a  s ync (from  De bianunstab l e) for  a packag ew hich h a s Ubunt u mo difi cations that need to remain there?<fmari er >  r e q ues tsy nc asks fo ra rea s on to r e mo v e the Ubuntu modifi cations...< Sco ttK2>fm ari e r: Ifthe d if f ere nces need t o re main, it' s a me r ge, not a sync<RAOF>  fm ari er:O ne  d oes n' t . O ne  in s tea d merges  t he  Ubun tu c h a n g es i nto  the  newdebian revisi on. 
<es s ial > RAO F: se e th in gs li ke tha t thr ow  me off right n ow,so I need  to  b e e as ed in t o thelin uxway ofthings: )
< RA O F >  e ssial: You can pic ka pa ckage or  group of  p a ckages t ha t y ou'r e inter este d  i n and ch eck ou t  t he  bugs i nLaunch pa d.<es sial> so I  guess  step on e ist o create a use r  in launchpad ,  b r b 
< R AOF>  Or , you can f inda  spe cifi c  u pst r eam p rojec tt ha t  you're interestedin , andjoinup.
<ScottK2>  fmarier:P r e pare a d ebdi f ff rom the new De bianrevision t o  the nee ded U buntu re vision at t a ch thattoa b ugand s ub scribe ubuntu - u nive rs e-spons ors 
<fmari er>  Sc ott K2:  o k, I'll d o that.th an ks 
< lmr _> RA O F: I was  t hin ki ng,  sinc e  I wor k mai nlywi th ope n sourc e  t e s ting  a nd  I a lre ad y con trib u tewith an  upstream  te s t pr oj ec t, mayb e there's a U bu ntu qualit yass urance / t est team  where my skills can be betteruse d
<RA OF>lmr_: Ofcou rse, a t t h e mome nt wha t rea ll y n e e ds to b edon eis to fixp a cka ges a lr eady  in Ubu ntu.
<essial> perh a pshelp make rhy thy mbox n ot  su c ks o m uc h , a s it seems to bewhat ubunt ut hi nks is the rep la cementfor the  supe r ior xmm s
<lmr_>RAOF: Sur e,  tha t ' s w hat I mean t, takin g maintai n ershi p  o f sof twa re tha t' s a lread y pack a ged  (orp hanedma ybe) w ouldbe  great
< essial> even though onc e it d ropsa s tream, yo u h a veto restar t it 
<RAOF> lm r_:  Ibelie vet hereis s u ch  ag roup,  but I don't k n ow  fo r su re.  You co u l d  al so he lpt he iso  tes ting team test th e  releases (alp ha X , etc 
essial> I_work better_with lists :) Ubuntu_is a_large_collection of_things
<lmr_>_RAOF: essial: I've_been trying to_find out some time_to help, I'd_love_to start packaging software for ubuntu
<fmarier> How does one request a sync (from Debian_unstable)_for a_package_which_has Ubuntu modifications that need_to remain there?
<fmarier> requestsync asks_for a_reason to remove the Ubuntu modifications...
<ScottK2> fmarier: If_the_differences need to_remain, it's a merge, not a sync
<RAOF> fmarier: One_doesn't.  One instead merges the_Ubuntu changes into_the_new_debian revision.
<essial> RAOF: see_things like that throw me off_right now, so I need to_be eased into the linux way of_things :)
<RAOF> essial: You can pick_a package or group of_packages that_you're interested in and check_out the bugs_in Launchpad.
<essial>_so I guess_step one is to create a_user in launchpad,_brb
<RAOF> Or, you can find a_specific_upstream project that_you're_interested_in, and_join up.
<ScottK2> fmarier:_Prepare_a debdiff_from_the new Debian revision to the_needed_Ubuntu revision attach that to a bug_and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
<fmarier> ScottK2:_ok,_I'll do that. thanks
<lmr_>_RAOF: I was thinking, since_I work mainly with open source_testing and_I already_contribute with an upstream test project, maybe there's a Ubuntu quality_assurance/test team where my skills can_be better used
<RAOF> lmr_:_Of course,_at_the moment what_really_needs to_be done is to fix packages already_in Ubuntu.
<essial>_perhaps help make rhythymbox not suck_so much, as it_seems_to be what ubuntu thinks is_the replacement for the superior xmms
<lmr_>_RAOF: Sure, that's what I_meant,_taking_maintainership of software that's already_packaged (orphaned maybe) would be great
<essial>_even though once_it drops a stream, you have to_restart_it
<RAOF> lmr_: I believe there is_such_a group, but I don't know_for_sure._ You could also help_the iso testing team test the_releases (alpha X, etc