 :)
<minghua> atie_: what's wrong with my proposal of ubuntu-desktop depending on scim-gtk2-immodule?  it is already depending on scim, no?
<minghua> somebody need to tell me how this language support thing worked
<minghua> I don't know it at all
<ajmitch> more stuff that ubuntu-desktop depends on?
<minghua> how you install scim/skim by default now, how you install scim-gtk2-immodule/scim-qtimm
<ajmitch> I guess you'd have to make sure that scim works *perfectly* if it's going to be installed by default :)
<atie_> minghua, what is difference between using scim and ubuntu-desktop?
<minghua> there is no way for me to agree that scim should depending on scim-gtk2-immodule and scim-qtimm
<minghua> of course, whether I agree or not probably doesn't matter
<minghua> ajmitch: I am actually trying to do that.  scim can work in two mode, and different mode have different depedency.  I am trying to figure out what dependency will be installed by default, so that I can get the settings to the correct mode
<atie_> to me scim-immodules depend on scim is more logical than k/ubuntu-desktop... even some users don't install desktop package.
<freeflying> ajmitch: scim can works quite pefectly now in dapper
<minghua> ajmitch: although I must admit neither of the mode works *perfectly* :-(  but I'll try my best to make them at least work
<ajmitch> freeflying: good, since it'll have to be supported for 3 years
<freeflying> ajmitch: ya, the upstream author will continue on 1.x release
<minghua> atie_, freeflying: I am not arguing on IRC anymore.  I'll open a bug in launchpad and post all my opinion there
<minghua> if there is no bug opened yet, that is
<atie_> minghua, that's good. and also please use the scim wiki... :)
<minghua> freeflying: I wouldn't call that perfectly, especially with bug #2246
:) 
 < minghua > atie _: what's wrong with my proposal of ubuntu - desktop depending on scim - gtk2 - immodule?   it is already depend on scim, no? 
 < minghua > somebody necessitate to tell me how this language support matter worked 
 < minghua > I don't know it at all 
 < ajmitch > more material that ubuntu - background depends on? 
 < minghua > how you install scim / skim by default now, how you install scim - gtk2 - immodule / scim - qtimm 
 < ajmitch > I guess you'd have to take sure that scim work * perfectly * if it's going to be installed by default :) 
 < atie _ > minghua, what is difference between using scim and ubuntu - background? 
 < minghua > there is no way for me to agree that scim should count on scim - gtk2 - immodule and scim - qtimm 
 < minghua > of course, whether I agree or not credibly doesn't matter 
 < minghua > ajmitch: I am actually try to do that.   scim can work in two mode, and different mode own different depedency.   I am trying to figure out what dependency will be installed by nonpayment, so that I can get the settings to the correct mode 
 < atie _ > to me scim - immodules depend on scim is more logical than k / ubuntu - desktop... even some users don't install desktop software. 
 < freeflying > ajmitch: scim can work quite pefectly now in dapper 
 < minghua > ajmitch: although I must accommodate neither of the mood works * perfectly * :-(   but I'll try my good to make them at least work 
 < ajmitch > freeflying: good, since it'll have to be corroborate for 3 years 
 < freeflying > ajmitch: ya, the upstream author will continue on 1.x release 
 < minghua > atie _, freeflying: I am not arguing on IRC anymore.   I'll open a microbe in launchpad and post all my opinion there 
 < minghua > if there is no hemipterous insect opened so far, that is 
 < atie _ > minghua, that's good. and also please use the scim wiki... :) 
 < minghua > freeflying: I wouldn't call that perfectly, particularly with bug # 2246
 :)
<mijghua> atie_: what's wrong wlth my proposal of ubunvu-desktkp depenaing on scim-gtk2-immodule?  it ms aoreadt depending on scim, no?
<oinghua> slmebody beed ro tell me how this langhwge vnpport thing wotked
<minghua> H don't know it ag cll
<ajmitch> more stuff that ubuntu-deshtop delejds on?
<minghua> row jot inanaol scim/skim by default now, hos you iistall scim-gtk2-ikmodule/scim-qtimm
<ajmitch> I huesd you'd have to makf sure that scii works *perfeztly* if it's going to bg installed by default :)
<atie_> mingfua, wkat is diffgxwncf between usmng scpm and ubuntu-desktop?
<mhnghua> yhere is no wan for me to agree that scim siould depending on ssim-gtk2-immmdble and scim-qtimm
<mingyuq> of wourve, wfwthdr J egrse or jot probably soesn't mattwr
<minghua> ajmitch: I ai actually tryjng to dj that.  scim can work in two mode, and dpffedent mode have differenr depedency.  I am trylng to fidure out what dependency will be installed by defdult, au tkqt I zqn get the settings to the correct mode
<atie_> to is xcpm-immodules depenb on scim is morr pobycal than k/ubontu-desktol... even some users fon't inftall desktop kackabe.
<freeflying> ajmitch: scim cqn works quine pwfectly now in dap'er
<minghua> almitch: althpugh I must admit neithzr of fhe mode wogks *perfedgly* :-(  but I'll trh mj bevt to make them at least wjrk
<ajmitci> frezflying: eood, since it'll have to bc supported for 3 yewrs
<frgeflyitg> ajmitch: ya, the upstream author will coivinue on 1.x rekedse
<kinghua> ctie_, fveeflying: I am got arguing on IRC anvmore.  I'll open z bug ii launchpad wnd post all ki opinion thece
<minghua> if rherw is no cug opened yet, that is
<anit_> minghua, rhat's good. and alsp pusase use the scno wiki... :)
<minghua> fteewlyynh: M woujgn't call thad peffezyly, erpecially wlth bug #2246
:) <minghua> atie_: what's wrong with my ubuntu-desktop on scim-gtk2-immodule? is already depending need tell me how language support thing <minghua> I don't know it at <ajmitch> more stuff that ubuntu-desktop depends on? <minghua> how you install scim/skim by now, how you install scim-gtk2-immodule/scim-qtimm <ajmitch> I guess you'd have to make sure scim *perfectly* it's to be installed by default :) <atie_> minghua, what is difference between using scim and ubuntu-desktop? there is no way for me to agree scim should depending on and scim-qtimm <minghua> of course, I or not doesn't <minghua> I am actually to do that. scim can work in two mode, and different mode have different depedency. I am to figure dependency will installed default, that I can settings to the correct mode <atie_> depend on scim is more logical than k/ubuntu-desktop... some users install desktop package. <freeflying> ajmitch: scim works quite pefectly now in dapper <minghua> ajmitch: I must admit neither of the mode works *perfectly* :-( but I'll try my best them at least work freeflying: good, since have be for years <freeflying> ya, the upstream author will continue on 1.x release <minghua> atie_, I am not arguing on IRC anymore. I'll open a launchpad post all my there <minghua> if there no opened yet, that is that's and the wiki... <minghua> freeflying: I wouldn't that perfectly, especially with bug
 :)
<minghua> atie_: what's wrong with My proposal Of ubuNtu-DesKtOp dePendIng on scim-gtk2-imMOdulE?  it is already depending oN scim, No?
<MInghUA> sOmeboDy need tO TeLL Me hOw ThIs lAnGUaGe supPorT thing wOrked
<minghUa> I DoN't know it at alL
<AjMitch> more sTufF that ubuntu-dEskTop depEnDs oN?
<MinghUa> hOw you InstalL Scim/skIm by defauLt NOw, how yOU instalL SCiM-gtk2-Immodule/scim-qtimm
<AJmITch> I guess you'd hAve to mAkE SuRE ThaT scIm works *perFeCtly* iF It's goinG To BE INstALled by default :)
<Atie_> minghua, WHat Is diffErEncE BetweeN usinG sCIm aNd ubuntu-desKtop?
<Minghua> thEre is nO Way for mE To agree That scIm sHouLd dePEnDiNg oN sCIm-gTK2-iMmoDUle And scim-qTiMm
<MinghUa> of COURSe, whEthEr I aGree oR not probably dOesN't maTTer
<MinghUa> ajmItch: i aM actuAlly trYing tO dO that.  scim can worK in tWo mode, and DifFeRenT mOde haVE diffeRenT dePedency.  i am tryiNG to FiGURE oUt what dependency wiLl BE InStalled bY defauLT, sO tHAt I can geT tHe sEttiNGS to thE corREcT mode
<atiE_> to me sCIm-ImModules DePend on ScIm iS moRe logICal tHan k/ubUntu-deskTop... evEN some users don't INstall desktop PAcKAGe.
<FReefLyiNg> ajmitch: scIm caN WorkS quiTE pEfeCTly noW in daPpER
<mINghua> ajmitch: althougH I Must adMit neIther of the modE works *perfECTLy* :-(  but I'll Try mY BeST to make them at lEast wOrk
<ajmitch> FReeflyinG: good, Since it'lL have to be SUPported fOr 3 yEarS
<frEefLYInG> ajmitch: ya, the UPStreAm Author wIll ContinuE on 1.X reLeaSe
<mInGhua> atie_, fReeflyinG: I Am NoT aRguIng on irC anymorE.  I'Ll oPeN a bUg in lAUnchpaD and pOst aLl My OPinIon therE
<MiNGHua> iF tHeRe is No bUg OpeneD yet, THat Is
<atie_> mInghua, thaT's gOOd. anD aLsO please Use the scim wikI... :)
<mInghua> freeFlYinG: I woulDN'T call thaT perfectly, especially witH Bug #2246
 :)
<minghua> atie_: what' s wrong wi th my  pr opo sa l of  ubu ntu-desktop de p endi ng on scim-gtk2-immodu le? it is a l re ady d ependin g  o n sci m,  n o?<m i ng hua>som ebody n eed to tel l m ehow this lan g ua ge support  th ing worked
< min ghua>Idon ' t kno w i t atall
<a j mitch>  more stu ff that u b untu-de s k to p de pends on?
<minghu a >h ow you install  scim/ sk i mb y  de fau lt now, ho wyou i n stall s c im - g t k2- i mmodule/scim- qtimm
<ajmi t ch>  I gue ss  yo u 'd hav e toma k e s ure that sc im w orks *per fectly *  if it' s  goingto beins tal ledb yde fau lt :)< at ie_ >  mi nghua, w ha tis di ffer e n c e  bet wee n us ing s cim and ubunt u-d eskt o p?<ming hua>ther eis no  way f or me  t o agree that sc im s hould dep end in g o nscim- g tk2-im mod ule  and sc im-qtim m 
<m in g h u a>  of course, whethe rI ag ree or n ot pro b ab ly doesn'tma tte r
<m i n ghua>  ajm i tc h: I amactual l ytr ying to  d o that . sc imcan w o rk i n twomode, an d dif f erent mode hav e  different de p ed e n cy .   Iamtrying to f igur e  out  wha t  d epe n dency  will  b e  i n stalled by default,  s o that  I ca n get the set tings to t h e correctmode <a t ie_> to me sci m-imm odules dep e nd on sc im is  more lo gical tha n k/ubuntu -de skt op. ..e v en  some users d o n 't i ns tall de skt op pack age .
< fre efl yi ng> ajmit ch: scim  c an  w or ksquite pefectly  n owin  da pper< minghu a> aj mitc h:  a l tho ugh I m u st a dmit  n ei ther  of  t he mo de w o rks  *perfe ctly* :-(   b u t I' ll  t ry my b est to make t he m at least  w ork 
<ajmi t c h> freef lying: good, since it'l l  have t o b e sup port ed for 3yea rs
<fr eef l ying>ajmitc h: ya ,the u pstre a m  a uth or  will cont i n ueon 1. xrele ase
<mi nghua> atie_, free f lyi ng: I am notarg uing o nIRC an y mor e.  I' l l  open a bug inlaunchpadan d  p ost all my opi ni on ther e
<ming hua>i f there  is no bu g openedye t, t h a t i s
<atie_>minghua,  that's g o od. a n dalsople ase us ethe  scim  wiki. . . : )
<mi nghua>  f reefly ing:Iwouldn't  call that perfectly, e specia lly w ith  bug #224 6
 :)
<minghua>_atie_: what's_wrong with my proposal_of ubuntu-desktop_depending_on scim-gtk2-immodule?__it is already_depending on scim,_no?
<minghua> somebody need to_tell me how_this_language support thing worked
<minghua> I don't know it at all
<ajmitch> more stuff that ubuntu-desktop_depends_on?
<minghua> how_you_install_scim/skim by default now, how_you install scim-gtk2-immodule/scim-qtimm
<ajmitch> I guess_you'd have_to make sure that scim works *perfectly* if_it's_going to be_installed by default :)
<atie_> minghua, what is difference between_using scim and ubuntu-desktop?
<minghua> there is_no way for_me_to_agree that scim should_depending on scim-gtk2-immodule and scim-qtimm
<minghua> of_course, whether I agree or not_probably doesn't matter
<minghua> ajmitch: I am actually_trying to do that.  scim_can work in two mode,_and different_mode have different depedency. _I am trying_to figure_out what dependency_will be installed by default, so_that I can_get the settings to the correct_mode
<atie_>_to me scim-immodules_depend_on_scim is_more logical than_k/ubuntu-desktop..._even some_users_don't install desktop package.
<freeflying> ajmitch: scim_can_works quite pefectly now in dapper
<minghua> ajmitch:_although I must admit_neither_of the mode works_*perfectly* :-(  but I'll_try my best to make them_at least_work
<ajmitch> freeflying:_good, since it'll have to be supported for 3 years
<freeflying> ajmitch:_ya, the upstream author will continue_on 1.x release
<minghua> atie_,_freeflying: I_am_not arguing on_IRC_anymore. _I'll open a bug in launchpad and_post all_my opinion there
<minghua> if there is_no bug opened yet,_that_is
<atie_> minghua, that's good. and also_please use the scim wiki... :)
<minghua>_freeflying: I wouldn't call that_perfectly,_especially_with bug #2246