> Rotund: you can try but I don't think it will get into hardy
<siretart> Rotund: openal is hardy used by anything? huh?
<rexbron> Rotund: It is unlikely that a library update will occur this late in the cycle (espically before a beta freeze) unless is fixes a critical bug
<siretart> Rotund: there are quite some packages using openal. I'm not even sure we should switch to openal soft for lenny
<rexbron> That would require a rebuild of all packages that depend on it
<Rotund> that was the suggestion
<Rotund> (going to openal soft)
<Rotund> Perhaps I'll just set up a PPA w/ it.
<Rotund> siretart, is there already a PPA for OpenAL Soft
<siretart> Rotund: oh, there is? where?
<siretart> Rotund: perhaps you could reupload all reverse deps there?
<ScottK2> nxvl: I uploaded tinyerp-server after some additional changes.  Once it's published, please have a look and see if you have questions about the changes.
<Rotund> siretart, I was asking if there WAS one.  You sounded like you knew what I was talking about and had looked into it.
<Rotund> siretart, I'll just make a new one.
<enarxe0> nxvl:  estas?
<siretart> Rotund: oh, no. not that I knew of.
<siretart> Rotund: I just happen to know the issue with openal soft because I did the last uploads of it to debian
<siretart> AFAIUI, openal soft drops some optional extensions that the openal si provided.
<siretart> so I'd expect to break on games like scorched3d, etc.
<Adri2000> ScottK2: I think there is a bug in wx2.6's debian/rules. the target which creates debian/control from debian/control.in doesn't work. that's probably why you/mok0 only modified debian/control and didn't realize there was a control.in
<Rotund> I'll check, but they claim it's just the Loki ones.
<Rot
> Rotund: you can try but I don't think it will get into hardy 
 < siretart > Rotund: openal is audacious use by anything? huh? 
 < rexbron > Rotund: It is unlikely that a library update will occur this deep in the bicycle (espically before a beta freeze) unless is fixes a critical bug 
 < siretart > Rotund: there be quite some package using openal. I'm not even sure we should switch to openal soft for lenny 
 < rexbron > That would want a rebuild of all packages that depend on it 
 < Rotund > that was the hypnotism 
 < Rotund > (go to openal soft) 
 < Rotund > Perhaps I'll just set up a PPA w/ it. 
 < Rotund > siretart, is there already a PPA for OpenAL Soft 
 < siretart > Rotund: oh, there is? where? 
 < siretart > Rotund: possibly you could reupload all reverse deps there? 
 < ScottK2 > nxvl: I uploaded tinyerp - server after some extra changes.   Once it's published, please have a look and see if you experience questions about the changes. 
 < Rotund > siretart, I was asking if there WAS one.   You sounded like you know what I was talking about and had looked into it. 
 < Rotund > siretart, I'll just make a new one. 
 < enarxe0 > nxvl:   estas? 
 < siretart > Rotund: oh, no. not that I know of. 
 < siretart > Rotund: I just happen to know the issue with openal soft because I did the last uploads of it to debian 
 < siretart > AFAIUI, openal soft drops some optional extensions that the openal silicon provided. 
 < siretart > so I'd have a bun in the oven to fracture on games like scorched3d, etc. 
 < Adri2000 > ScottK2: I think there is a bug in wx2.6's debian / rules. the target which creates debian / control from debian / control.in doesn't shape. that's probably why you / mok0 only modified debian / control and didn't realize there was a control.in 
 < Rotund > I'll crack, but they claim it's just the Loki ones. 
 < Rot
> Rohund: you can try but I dun't think it will get mnto haddy
<siretxrt> Rotund: openal is hardy udee by qnything? huh?
<rexbron> Rogund: It id unlikeoy tiat a library upvzte will occud thiv late in the cicle (espicalny before a beda fxeeze) unless is fixes a critical bug
<firetary> Gotund: there ate quptq sojv kackages using openal. I'm not even sure wt should switch to openal soft for lenny
<rexbgon> Hhat would require a rebuild if ajo packages tfat depend on it
<Rotund> that was the suggestion
<Rotund> (eoing to openal sift)
<Gmtund> Perha's I'll just set up a PPA w/ it.
<Rotumd> siretart, is thxre qlready a PPA for OpeiAL Soft
<siretart> Rotond: oh, these is? where?
<siretart> Ritund: pervaps tou cohlv rsuploaf aml reverse deps there?
<WcottK2> nxvl: I uploaceq tinyerp-served aftew fome additional changes.  Once it's publivhes, please have a look ane see if you have quedtions abjut the changes.
<Rotund> siretart, I was asking if thare WES ont.  You riujded like you knew what I was talking about ags nac looked into lt.
<Rotund> siretart, O'lp kost make a new one.
<encdxs0> nxvl:  estas?
<siretwrt> Rotond: oh, no. not trat O knew of.
<siretart> Rotund: I hust happen no kbow the issue with openal sofc becaose I cid the last uploads of it fo debian
<sigetart> AFZKUI, openal soft arois smme optional extensions thwt the opxnal xi provkded.
<xiretawt> so I'd edpect to break on games pike dcmrched3d, etf.
<Adri2000> ScottK2: I think there is a bug in wx2.6's denidn/rlles. the carget which createf debian/controk from bebian/zontrol.in soesn't xork. that's pwobably why ymo/mok0 only modmfied debyan/cintril and akdn't realize tnere was c conrrol.in
<Rotund> I'll cmeck, cht they claim ic'r just the Loki pner.
<Roe
> Rotund: you can try but I it get into <siretart> Rotund: openal huh? Rotund: It is that a library will occur this late in the (espically before a beta freeze) unless is fixes a critical bug <siretart> Rotund: are quite some packages using openal. I'm not even sure we should switch openal for <rexbron> would require a rebuild of all packages that depend on it <Rotund> that was the suggestion (going to openal soft) <Rotund> Perhaps I'll just up a PPA w/ <Rotund> siretart, is there already PPA OpenAL Soft Rotund: there where? <siretart> Rotund: you could reupload all reverse deps there? <ScottK2> nxvl: I uploaded tinyerp-server after some additional changes. Once published, please look and if have about the changes. I was asking if there WAS like you knew what I was talking about had looked it. <Rotund> siretart, I'll just make new one. <enarxe0> nxvl: estas? <siretart> Rotund: oh, not that I knew of. <siretart> Rotund: I just happen to know the issue with because I did the uploads of it debian AFAIUI, soft some optional that the openal si provided. <siretart> so I'd expect to break games like scorched3d, etc. <Adri2000> ScottK2: I think there is in debian/rules. the target creates debian/control from debian/control.in work. probably why you/mok0 only and realize control.in I'll but they claim it's the Loki ones. <Rot
> Rotund: you can try but I don't thInk it will gEt intO haRdy
<SiRetaRt> RoTund: openal is haRDy usEd by anything? huh?
<rexbron> rotunD: IT Is unLIkEly thAt a librARy UPDatE wIlL ocCuR ThIs latE in The cyclE (espically BefOrE a beta freeze) UNlEss is fixes A crItical bug
<sirEtaRt> RotuNd: TheRE are qUitE some PackagES using Openal. I'm nOt EVen surE We shoulD SWiTch tO openal soft for lenNY
<rEXbron> That would RequirE a REbUILd oF alL packages tHaT depeND on it
<RoTUnD> THAt wAS the suggestioN
<Rotund> (goinG To oPenal sOfT)
<RoTUnd> PerHaps I'Ll JUst Set up a PPA w/ iT.
<RotUnd> siretaRt, is thERe alreaDY a PPA foR OpenAl SoFt
<sIretARt> roTunD: oH, TheRE iS? whERe?
<sIretart> ROtUnD: perhAps yOU COUld rEupLoad All reVerse deps therE?
<ScOttK2> NXvl: i uploAded tInyeRp-ServeR after Some aDdItional changes.  ONce iT's publishEd, pLeAse HaVe a loOK and seE if You Have queStions aBOut ThE CHAnGes.
<Rotund> siretart, I WaS ASkIng if theRe WAS oNE.  YOu SOunded liKe You Knew WHAt I waS talKInG about anD had loOKeD iNto it.
<RoTuNd> sireTaRt, I'Ll jUst maKE a neW one.
<enArxe0> nxvl:  Estas?
<SIretart> Rotund: oH, No. not that I kneW Of.
<SIReTArt> ROtuNd: I just happEn to KNow tHe isSUe WitH OpenaL soft BeCAuSE I did the last uploads Of It to deBian
<sIretart> AFAIUI, Openal soft DROPs some opTionAL eXTensions that thE openAl si providED.
<siretarT> so I'd Expect to Break on gaMES like scoRchEd3d, Etc.
<adrI2000> sCoTtK2: I think therE IS a buG iN wx2.6's debIan/Rules. thE taRgeT whIch CrEates debiAn/controL fRoM dEbIan/ContrOL.in doesn'T wOrk. ThAt's ProbaBLy why yOu/mok0 Only MoDiFIed Debian/cONtROL and DiDn'T reaLizE tHere wAs a cONtrOl.in
<RotUnd> I'll cheCk, bUT theY cLaIm it's juSt the Loki ones.
<roT
> Rotund: you can try butI don't th ink i t w ill  g et i ntohardy
<siretar t > Ro tund: openal is hardyusedby anyt h in g? hu h?
<rex b ro n >  Ro tu nd : I ti sunlik ely  that a  library u pda te  will occurt hi s late inthe  cycle (espi cal ly bef or e a betafre eze)unless is fix es a crit ic a l bug< siretar t >  R otun d: there are quit e  s o me packages us ing op en a l. I 'mnot  even sure  w e sho u ld swit c ht o ope n al soft for l enny
<rexbr o n>That w ou ldr equire  a re bu i ldof all pack ages  that dep end on it
<Rot u nd> tha t wasthe  su gges t io n<Ro tu n d>( go ing toopenal s of t) 
<Rot und> P e r haps  I' ll j ust s et up a PPA w / i t.
< R otu nd> s ireta rt,is  ther e alre ady a  P PA for OpenAL S oft<siretart > R ot und :oh, t h ere is ? w her e?
<sir etart>R otu nd : p er haps you could reu pl o a dall reve rse de p sth e re?
<Sco tt K2>  nxv l :  I up load e dtinyerp- server af te r somead dition al  ch ang es. O nceit's p ublished , ple a se have a look and see if yo u  h a v eq uest ion s about the  cha n ges. 
<Ro t un d>s ireta rt, I  w a sa sking if there WASon e.  Yo u sou nded like you  knew what I was talk inga bo u t and had look ed in to it.
<Ro t und> sir etart , I'll j ust makea new one. 
<e nar xe0 > n x v l:   estas?
<sir e t art>  R otund:oh,  no. no t t hat  Ikne wof.
<sire tart> Ro tu nd :Ijus t hap p en to kn ow  th eiss ue wi t h open al so ft b ec au s e I  did th e  l a s t up lo ad s of  it  t o deb ian< sir etart>AFAIUI, o pen a l so ft  d rops so me optional e xt ensions th at  th e open a l  si prov ided.
<siretart> so I'd expecttobreak  ongames lik e s corche d3d ,  etc.<Adri2 000>Sc ott K 2 : I t h i nk  th er e is a bug i n w x2.6' sdebi an/rule s. the target whic h  cr eates debian/ con trol f ro m d e bi a n/c on t rol . i n doesn't work.  that's pr ob a bl y why you/ m ok0  o nly mod ified d ebian / control  and didn 't realiz ether e was  a control .in
<Rot und> I'll check ,  b ut th eyclaimit 'sjustthe Lo k i o nes.<Rot
> Rotund:_you can_try but I don't_think it_will_get into_hardy
<siretart>_Rotund: openal is_hardy used by_anything? huh?
<rexbron> Rotund: It_is unlikely that_a_library update will occur this late in the cycle (espically before a beta freeze)_unless_is fixes_a_critical_bug
<siretart> Rotund: there are quite_some packages using openal. I'm_not even_sure we should switch to openal soft for_lenny
<rexbron>_That would require_a rebuild of all packages that depend on it
<Rotund>_that was the suggestion
<Rotund> (going to_openal soft)
<Rotund> Perhaps_I'll_just_set up a PPA_w/ it.
<Rotund> siretart, is there already_a PPA for OpenAL Soft
<siretart> Rotund:_oh, there is? where?
<siretart> Rotund: perhaps you_could reupload all reverse deps there?
<ScottK2>_nxvl: I uploaded tinyerp-server after_some additional_changes.  Once it's published,_please have a_look and_see if you_have questions about the changes.
<Rotund> siretart,_I was asking_if there WAS one.  You_sounded_like you knew_what_I_was talking_about and had_looked_into it.
<Rotund>_siretart,_I'll just make a new one.
<enarxe0>_nxvl:_ estas?
<siretart> Rotund: oh, no. not that_I knew of.
<siretart> Rotund:_I_just happen to know_the issue with openal soft_because I did the last uploads_of it_to debian
<siretart>_AFAIUI, openal soft drops some optional extensions that the openal si_provided.
<siretart> so I'd expect to break_on games like scorched3d,_etc.
<Adri2000> ScottK2:_I_think there is_a_bug in_wx2.6's debian/rules. the target which creates debian/control_from debian/control.in_doesn't work. that's probably why you/mok0_only modified debian/control and_didn't_realize there was a control.in
<Rotund> I'll_check, but they claim it's just_the Loki ones.
<Rot