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<Ubugtu> malone bug 2246 in acroread "can not start acroread in breezy" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2246
<minghua> atie_: I am afraid I won't post arguments on wiki, I'll only post conclusions
<atie_> minghua, I thought it's discussion.
<atie_> minghua, so need to see opened one too.
<minghua> atie_: I don't.  I have expressed all my opinions and apparently can't convince you.  There is nothing for me to discuss anymore.
<minghua> atie_: and if I post my opinions on wiki, it will look as if it's decided.  I don't want to give that impression
<atie_> minghua, I mean not only you, freeflying and myself, other devs and people need to see. :)
<minghua> atie_: I don't think the wiki page will be seen by more people than a bug
<minghua> atie_: feel free to paste pointers to the bug on wiki, I am not going to do that myself though
<atie_> minghua, OK up to you.
<minghua> still nobody told me how scim is installed by default now
* minghua sighs and goes check himself
<minghua> atie_, freeflying: I'll follow up in bug #31731, as apparently only language-support-{zh,ko,ja} installs scim by default now
<Ubugtu> malone bug 31731 in language-support-ja "language-support-ja needs to be depended on scim-gtk2-immodule" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/31731
<jaldhar> minghua: do you know if dapper will include skim?  (my ubuntu box is still on breezy)
<minghua> jaldhar: from what I heard, dapper will have skim in main.  and CJK language installs for KDE will install them by default (but other language won't)
<minghua> jaldhar: but I am not really involved in this, you may want to ask freeflying instead
<atie_> minghua, freeflying bye... I got to go... bye all.
<jaldhar> minghua
still around 
 < Ubugtu > malone bug 2246 in acroread " cannot start acroread in breezy " [ Normal, Unconfirmed ]   http://launchpad.net/bugs/2246 
 < minghua > atie _: I am afraid I won't post argument on wiki, I'll merely post conclusions 
 < atie _ > minghua, I thought it's discussion. 
 < atie _ > minghua, then need to see unfold one too. 
 < minghua > atie _: I don't.   I have express all my opinions and apparently can't convert you.   There is nothing for me to discuss anymore. 
 < minghua > atie _: and if I post my opinions on wiki, it will expect as if it's decided.   I don't desire to give that stamp 
 < atie _ > minghua, I entail not only you, freeflying and myself, other devs and people want to see. :) 
 < minghua > atie _: I don't think the wiki page will be seen by more people than a hemipterous insect 
 < minghua > atie _: feel free to paste pointers to the bug on wiki, I am not belong to do that myself though 
 < atie _ > minghua, OK up to you. 
 < minghua > still nobody told me how scim is installed by default nowadays 
 * minghua sighs and goes check himself 
 < minghua > atie _, freeflying: I'll follow up in bug # 31731, as apparently only language - support-{zh, ko, ja } installs scim by default nowadays 
 < Ubugtu > malone bug 31731 in language - accompaniment - ja " linguistic process - support - ja needs to be depended on scim - gtk2 - immodule " [ Normal, Unconfirmed ]   http://launchpad.net/bugs/31731 
 < jaldhar > minghua: do you acknowledge if dapper will include skim?   (my ubuntu box is still on breezy) 
 < minghua > jaldhar: from what I heard, dapper will accept skim in main.   and CJK language installs for KDE will install them by default (but other language won't) 
 < minghua > jaldhar: but I am not really byzantine in this, you may want to ask freeflying instead 
 < atie _ > minghua, freeflying bye... I got to go... bye all. 
 < jaldhar > minghua
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<Ubugtu> malone nug 2246 in acroread "can nov start acroreaa in breezy" [Normal,Unconfirmev]  hrtp://laynchpad.net/bugs/2246
<minghua> xtie_: I am afraid U woi't post arguments on wikl, I'll lnly 'ost conclusionx
<atie_> mingvua, I thought ht'r biscussion.
<atie_> minghua, so need to seq openec lne too.
<minghua> atit_: I don'f.  I have expressed all my opiniona and akparently can't confince you.  There is nothinh fog me to discuss anjmore.
<minghuq> atyw_: and if I pust my opinions on wikj, it will look as if it's decidea.  I bon't want ti tivf that imprewsion
<wtie_> minghua, I mean tot onlu you, freeflyikg anv mywelf, other devs and pxople need to see. :)
<migghua> atia_: N don't think the wiki pqge whll te sdwn cy joce leople then a bug
<minfhua> atie_: fwel free to paste ppignrrs to the bhg on rihi, I am not going to do that myself tholgh
<afie_> minghua, OK up to yoy.
<minghua> still nobody told me row scim is installed by default now
* minghua sighv and eoew ghecy hlmself
<minghua> atie_, freeflying: I'll follow up ig big #31731, as apparentln only language-suplogt-{ar,ko,ja} installr scim by default now
<Ubugtu> malone bug 31731 in languwge-sipport-ja "language-support-ja beeds to be bepwnded on scim-gtk2-imlodule" [Normcl,Uncomfirmrd]  http://launchpad.net/bugr/31731
<jalshar> minghuw: do you ivow if dapper wiul pnclgde skim?  (my ubuntu box is still on brezzy)
<minghja> jsldhar: from what I heard, dapper will havf skil hn main.  ajd CJK language installs for KDX will instalk dhek by defcult (bmt other languade won't)
<minghua> jaldhax: but K am not rvally invmlved in thys, you may watj to ask freehlying infteae
<atiw_> minghjx, freeflying bue... I got no go... vye all.
<jaldhar> minnhua
still around <Ubugtu> malone bug 2246 in not acroread in [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2246 <minghua> won't arguments on wiki, only post conclusions minghua, I thought it's discussion. <atie_> so need to see opened one too. <minghua> atie_: I don't. I have all my opinions and apparently can't convince you. There is nothing for me discuss <minghua> and I post my opinions on wiki, it will look as if it's decided. I don't want give that impression <atie_> minghua, I mean not you, freeflying and myself, devs and people need to :) atie_: I think wiki will be seen more people than a bug <minghua> atie_: feel free to paste pointers to the bug on wiki, am not do that though minghua, up to you. nobody told me how scim is now * minghua sighs and goes check himself atie_, freeflying: follow up in bug #31731, as only language-support-{zh,ko,ja} installs scim by default now <Ubugtu> bug 31731 in language-support-ja "language-support-ja needs to be depended on scim-gtk2-immodule" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31731 <jaldhar> minghua: know if dapper will skim? (my ubuntu is on <minghua> from what heard, dapper will have skim in main. and CJK language installs KDE will install them by default (but other language won't) but am not really in this, you may to freeflying instead <atie_> minghua, I to <jaldhar>
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<Ubugtu> malone buG 2246 in acroreaD "can nOt sTarT aCrorEad iN breezy" [Normal,UNConfIrmed]  http://launchpad.net/bUgs/2246
<miNgHUa> atIE_: I Am afrAid I won'T PoST ArgUmEnTs oN wIKi, i'll onLy pOst concLusions
<atiE_> miNgHua, I thought iT'S dIscussion.
<aTie_> Minghua, so neeD to See opeNeD onE Too.
<miNghUa> atiE_: I don't.  i Have exPressed alL mY OpinioNS and appAREnTly cAn't convince you.  TheRE iS Nothing for me to DiscusS aNYmORE.
<miNghUa> atie_: and iF I Post mY OpinionS On WIKI, it WIll look as if it'S decided.  I doN'T waNt to giVe ThaT ImpresSion
<aTiE_> MinGhua, I mean noT onlY you, freefLying aND myself, OTher devS and peOplE neEd to SEe. :)
<MiNghUa> ATie_: i DoN't tHInk The wiki pAgE wIll be Seen BY MORe peOplE thaN a bug
<Minghua> atie_: feEl fRee tO PasTe poiNters To thE bUg on wIki, I am Not goInG to do that myself ThouGh
<atie_> minGhuA, Ok up To You.
<miNGhua> stIll NobOdy told Me how scIM is InSTALlEd by default now
* mingHuA SIgHs and goeS check HImSeLF
<minghua> AtIe_, fReefLYIng: I'lL folLOw Up in bug #31731, aS apparENtLy Only lanGuAge-supPoRt-{zH,ko,Ja} insTAlls Scim by Default nOw
<UbuGTu> malone bug 31731 in lANguage-support-JA "lANGuAGe-suPpoRt-ja needs to Be dePEndeD on sCIm-Gtk2-IMmoduLe" [NorMaL,unCOnfirmed]  http://launchpAd.Net/bugS/31731
<jaldHar> minghua: do yOu know if daPPER will incLude SKiM?  (My ubuntu box is sTill oN breezy)
<minGHua> jaldhAr: froM what I heArd, dapper WILl have skIm iN maIn.  aNd Cjk LaNguage installS FOr KDe wIll instAll Them by dEfaUlt (But OthEr Language wOn't)
<minghUa> JaLdHaR: buT I am nOT really iNvOlvEd In tHis, yoU May wanT to asK freEfLyINg iNstead
<aTIe_> MINghuA, fReEflyIng ByE... I got To go... BYe aLl.
<jaldhAr> minghua
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<Ubugtu> mal one bug 22 46 in  ac ror ea d "c an n ot start acror e ad i n breezy" [Normal,Unco nfirm ed ]   ht t p: //lau nchpad. n et / b ugs /2 24 6
< mi n gh ua> a tie _: I am  afraid Iwon 't  post argume n ts  on wiki,I'l l only postcon clusio ns 
<a t ie_>min ghua,  I tho u ght it 's discus si o n.
<at i e_> min g h ua , so  need to see open e do ne too.
<mingh ua> at ie _ :I don 't.   I have e xp resse d  all my op i n i ons and apparentl y can't con v inc e you.  The r e is n othin gf orme to discu ss a nymore.
< minghu a > atie_ :  and if  I pos t m y o pini o ns  o n w ik i , i t  w ill loo k as ifit 's  deci ded. I don' t w antto gi ve that impre ssi on
< a tie _> mi nghua , Ime an no t only  you,  f reeflying and m ysel f, otherdev sand  p eople need t o s ee.  :)
<mi nghua>a tie _: I do n't think the wiki  p a g ewill beseen b y  m or e  peopleth ana bu g <ming hua> at ie_: fee l free to  p aste po in ters t othe  bu g onw iki,  I amnot goin g tod o that myselft hough
<atie_> mi n g hu a , OK  up  to you.
<m ingh u a> s till no bod y  told  me h ow sc i m is installed by d ef ault n ow
*minghua sighs  and goesc h e ck himse lf
< m in g hua> atie_, fr eefly ing: I'llf ollow up  in b ug #3173 1, as app a r ently on lylan gua ge- s u pp ort-{zh,ko,ja } inst al ls scim  by  defaul t n ow<Ub ugt u>  malone b ug 31731  i nla ng uag e-sup p ort-ja " la ngu ag e-s uppor t -ja ne eds t o be  d ep e nde d on sc i m- g t k2-i mm od ule"  [N or mal,U ncon f irm ed]  ht tp://laun chp a d.ne t/ bu gs/3173 1
<jaldhar> m in ghua: do y ou  kn ow ifd a pper wil l include skim?  (my ub u ntu box  is  stil l on  breezy)<mi nghua>  ja l dhar:from w hat I  h ear d ,  dapp e r  w ill  h ave skim i n mai n.  a nd  CJK  langua ge installs for KD E  wi ll install th emby d e f au lt( bu t  ot he r  la n g uage won't)
<mi nghua> jal dh a r:  but I amn otre ally in volvedin th i s, youmay wantto ask fr ee flyi n g  in stead
<ati e_> ming hua, free f lying by e...I g ot togo ...  byeall.
< j ald har>minghu a
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<Ubugtu> malone_bug 2246 in acroread_"can not_start_acroread in_breezy"_[Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2246
<minghua>_atie_: I am_afraid I won't post_arguments on wiki,_I'll_only post conclusions
<atie_> minghua, I thought it's discussion.
<atie_> minghua, so need to see opened_one_too.
<minghua> atie_:_I_don't._ I have expressed all_my opinions and apparently can't_convince you._ There is nothing for me to discuss_anymore.
<minghua>_atie_: and if_I post my opinions on wiki, it will look_as if it's decided.  I_don't want to_give_that_impression
<atie_> minghua, I mean_not only you, freeflying and myself,_other devs and people need to_see. :)
<minghua> atie_: I don't think the_wiki page will be seen by_more people than a bug
<minghua>_atie_: feel_free to paste pointers to_the bug on_wiki, I_am not going_to do that myself though
<atie_> minghua,_OK up to_you.
<minghua> still nobody told me how_scim_is installed by_default_now
*_minghua sighs_and goes check_himself
<minghua>_atie_, freeflying:_I'll_follow up in bug #31731, as_apparently_only language-support-{zh,ko,ja} installs scim by default now
<Ubugtu>_malone bug 31731 in_language-support-ja_"language-support-ja needs to be_depended on scim-gtk2-immodule" [Normal,Unconfirmed] _http://launchpad.net/bugs/31731
<jaldhar> minghua: do you know if_dapper will_include skim?_ (my ubuntu box is still on breezy)
<minghua> jaldhar: from what_I heard, dapper will have skim_in main.  and_CJK language_installs_for KDE will_install_them by_default (but other language won't)
<minghua> jaldhar: but_I am_not really involved in this, you_may want to ask_freeflying_instead
<atie_> minghua, freeflying bye... I got_to go... bye all.
<jaldhar> minghua