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<ubotwo> Launchpad bug 194836 in mumble "Update to 1.1.3 (bugfixes)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194836
<\sh> YokoZar: correct :)
<YokoZar> Or any app like it.  Hell, no reason any old application couldn't be packaged this way (provided it worked in Wine).  That was one of the original goals of Lindows click and run, actually - to share revenue selling Windows software.  Wine just didn't work too well back then.
<YokoZar> For MOTU purposes, we could package free apps without good linux equivalents (say, eMule)
<\sh> YokoZar: if it compiles from source, sure :)
<YokoZar> \sh: True.  Getting Visual Studio programs to compile on Linux has been a fantasy of mine for a while.
<\sh> btw...any reason why we don't have APC (php optimizer/cache) in our archives, but only xcache?
<YokoZar> There was some interest in it by one of the scons developers.  I should get back in touch with him.  Basically the idea was to run a visual studio project through some magic python script and then end up with an scons project that we could build in linux with winelib
<\sh> YokoZar: what about the propietary MSVC compiler crap?
<YokoZar> \sh: Some of that is portable.  The weird patented exception handling, for instance, can be handled with some macros to translate it into GCC stuff.  The windows API header files, on the other hand, are handled by Winelib's reimplementation.
<\sh> YokoZar: well, the latter is not a problem actually..but the former will be a big piece of work to do
 * \sh brb
<dholbach> slicer: I'd use the replaces
 * dholbach is out for a dogwalk now
<dholbach> see you later
<mok0> It's something they do for geeks now. Give them a dog so they get into the open once in a while :-P
<Hobbsee> open?  what's that?
<mok0> hehe
 * Hobbsee wonders if that
it? 
 < ubotwo > Launchpad bug 194836 in mumble " Update to 1.1.3 (bugfixes) " [ Undecided, Confirmed ] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194836 
 < \sh > YokoZar: correct :) 
 < YokoZar > Or any app like it.   Hell, no reason any previous lotion couldn't be packaged this way (provide it work in Wine).   That was one of the original goals of Lindows click and hunt, actually - to partake revenue selling Windows software.   Wine just didn't work too well back then. 
 < YokoZar > For MOTU determination, we could package free apps without good linux equivalent (say, eMule) 
 < \sh > YokoZar: if it compiles from source, sure :) 
 < YokoZar > \sh: True.   Getting Visual Studio plan to compile on Linux has been a fantasy of mine for a while. 
 < \sh > btw... any reason why we don't consume APC (php optimizer / cache) in our archives, but only xcache? 
 < YokoZar > There was some interest in it by one of the scons developer.   I should get back in touch with him.   Basically the idea was to run a visual studio apartment project through some magic python script and then end up with an scons project that we could build in linux with winelib 
 < \sh > YokoZar: what about the propietary MSVC compiler crap? 
 < YokoZar > \sh: Some of that is portable.   The eldritch patent exception handling, for instance, can be handled with some macros to translate it into GCC stuff.   The windows API header files, on the early hired hand, are handled by Winelib's reimplementation. 
 < \sh > YokoZar: well, the latter is not a trouble actually.. but the erstwhile will be a adult piece of work to serve 
  * \sh brb 
 < dholbach > slicer: I'd use the replaces 
  * dholbach is out for a dogwalk now 
 < dholbach > see you later 
 < mok0 > It's something they serve for geeks now. Give them a dog so they get into the open once in a while :-P 
 < Hobbsee > capable?   what's that? 
 < mok0 > hehe 
  * Hobbsee wonders if that
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<kbotwo> Launchpad bug 194836 in mumble "Update jo 1.1.3 (bugfmxes)" [Unsecided,Cunfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bujs/194836
<\sh> YokoEcr: correct :)
<YokoZar> Of any app like it.  Heoo, no reasoi any old appljgatiou rouldn't be packsged this fay (provided id doxked in Wine).  That was one of the oryginal bowls of Lindows clibk and guk, actually - to share revenue selming Wiidows software.  Wine just didn't work too aell back then.
<YokoZar> Vor MOTU putlosqw, we could pxckage fret cpps withouj good linux equivalents (say, eMuue)
<\sh> VokoZar: if ut colkiles from siurce, sure :)
<YokoZav> \sh: Trge.  Getying Visual Stmdio 'rogeams to compile on Liiux has been a fantafy of mina yor a while.
<\sh> btw...any eeqson fhy fe dub't favt A'C (lhp ophimmzer/cache) ih our archices, but only xcache?
<UohiZar> There waa some igterest in it by one of the scons develmpeds.  I should get back ib touch with him.  Baslcally thq idea was to run a visual studio project through some oagng ottjon script and then end up with an scons projqdt tmat we could buijd in linux wltn winelib
<\sh> YoyoZar: cgaf about the propiehary MSDC conpiler crwp?
<YoloZar> \sh: Some of that is poetable.  The ceied patented exceptnon handling, for instsnce, can be handled witk some macros to hranslate kt into GCC stufw.  Nhe findows API header files, og the othxr haud, are hxndlgd by Wynelib's relmplementation.
<\sh> YokoZar: well, tve latter ls not a problem actually..but thx former will ba a big pieee of eork to do
 * \sr brb
<dholbach> xlicer: N'd use the replabes
 * dholuach is out sor a dogwalk jow
<dholbach> vee you jatee
<mok0> It's soodthing they do for geeks now. Give them a dog so then get jnto the open ouee in a while :-P
<Honbsde> jpvn?  wrdt's that?
<mok0> vehe
 * Hunbsee wonders if ghat
it? <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 194836 in mumble 1.1.3 [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194836 YokoZar: correct :) it. no reason any application couldn't be this way (provided it worked in That was one of the original goals of Lindows click and run, actually to share revenue selling Windows software. Wine just didn't work too well back <YokoZar> MOTU we package free apps without good linux equivalents (say, eMule) <\sh> YokoZar: if it compiles from source, :) <YokoZar> \sh: True. Getting Visual Studio programs compile on Linux has a fantasy of mine for while. btw...any reason we have (php optimizer/cache) in archives, but only xcache? <YokoZar> There was some interest in it by one of the scons developers. should get touch with Basically idea to run a project through some magic python script up with an scons project that we could in linux winelib <\sh> YokoZar: what about the MSVC compiler crap? <YokoZar> \sh: Some of that portable. The weird patented exception handling, for instance, can be handled with some macros to into GCC stuff. The API header files, the hand, handled Winelib's reimplementation. YokoZar: well, the latter is not a problem actually..but the former be a big piece of work to do * \sh slicer: use the replaces dholbach is out for dogwalk <dholbach> see you later something do Give a so they get into open once in a while <Hobbsee> open? what's that? if that
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<ubotwo> Launchpad bug 194836 in mumBle "Update tO 1.1.3 (bugfIxeS)" [UnDeCideD,ConFirmed] https://lauNChpaD.net/bugs/194836
<\sh> YokoZar: correCt :)
<YokOZAR> Or aNY aPp likE it.  Hell, NO rEASon AnY oLd aPpLIcAtion CouLdn't be pAckaged thiS waY (pRovided it worKEd In Wine).  That Was One of the origInaL goals Of linDOws clIck And ruN, actuaLLy - to shAre revenuE sELling WINdows soFTWaRe.  WiNe just didn't work toO WeLL back then.
<YokoZAr> For MoTu PuRPOseS, we Could packaGe Free aPPs withoUT gOOD LinUX equivalents (sAy, eMule)
<\sh> YoKOZaR: if it cOmPilES from sOurce, SuRE :)
<YoKoZar> \sh: True.  gettIng Visual studio PRograms TO compilE on LinUx hAs bEen a FAnTaSy oF mINe fOR a WhiLE.
<\sh> Btw...any reAsOn Why we Don't HAVE aPC (pHp oPtimIzer/cAche) in our archIveS, but ONly XcachE?
<Yokozar> THeRe was Some inTeresT iN it by one of the scOns dEvelopers.  i shOuLd gEt Back iN Touch wIth Him.  basicalLy the idEA waS tO RUN a Visual studio projecT tHROuGh some maGic pytHOn ScRIpt and thEn End Up wiTH An scoNs prOJeCt that we Could bUIlD iN linux wItH winelIb
<\Sh> YOkozar: whAT aboUt the pRopietarY MSVC COmpiler crap?
<YokOzar> \sh: Some of thAT iS POrTAble.  the Weird patentEd exCEptiOn haNDlIng, FOr insTance, CaN Be HAndled with some macroS tO transLate iT into GCC stuff.  the windows api Header fiLes, oN ThE Other hand, are haNdled By Winelib's REimplemeNtatiOn.
<\sh> Yokozar: well, thE LAtter is nOt a ProBleM acTUAlLy..but the formeR WIll bE a Big piecE of Work to dO
 * \sh Brb
<DhoLbaCh> Slicer: I'd uSe the repLaCeS
 * dHoLbaCh is oUT for a dogWaLk nOw
<DhoLbach> SEe you lAter
<mOk0> It'S sOmEThiNg they dO FoR GEeks NoW. GIve tHem A dOg so tHey gET inTo the opEn once in a WhiLE :-P
<HoBbSeE> open?  whAt's that?
<mok0> hehE
 * HObbsee wondErS if That
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<ubotwo> Launchpad bu g 194836 i n mum ble  "U pd ateto 1 .1.3 (bugfixes ) " [U ndecided,Confirmed] ht tps:/ /l a unch p ad .net/ bugs/19 4 83 6 <\s h>  Y oko Za r :corre ct:)
<Yok oZar> Or a nyap p like it. H el l, no reas onany old appl ica tion c ou ldn ' t bepac kaged  thisw ay (pr ovided it  w o rked i n  Wine). Th at w as one of the ori g in a l goals of Lin dows c li c ka n d r un,  actually-to sh a re reve n ue s e lli n g Windows sof tware.  Win e  ju st did n' t w o rk too  well  b a ckthen.
<Yoko Zar>  For MOTU  purpo s es, wec ould pa ckagefre e a ppsw it ho utgo o d l i nu x e q uiv alents ( sa y,  eMul e)
< \ s h >  Yok oZa r: i f itcompiles from  so urce ,  su re :) 
<Yok oZar >\sh:True. Gett in g Visual Studio  pro grams tocom pi leon  Linu x  has b een  afantasy  of min e  fo ra w hi le.
<\sh> btw...an yr e as on why w e don' t  h av e  APC (ph popt imiz e r /cach e) i n  o ur archi ves, b u ton ly xcac he ?
<Yok oZ ar>  Th ere w a s so me int erest in  it b y  one of the sc o ns developers .  I sh o uldget  back in to uchw ithhim.  B asi c allythe i de a  w a s to run a visual s tu dio pr oject  through some  magic pyt h o n  scriptandt he n  end up with a n sco ns project that wecould  build i n linux w i t h wineli b
< \sh > Y oko Z a r:  what about t h e  pro pi etary M SVC  compil ercra p?<Yo ko Zar> \sh:  Some of  t ha tis  po rtabl e .  The w ei rdpa ten ted e x ceptio n han dlin g,  f o r i nstance ,  c a n  beha nd ledwit hsomemacr o s t o trans late it i nto GCCst uf f.  The  windows APIhe ader files ,onthe ot h e r hand,are handled by Winelib' s  reimpl eme ntati on.<\sh> Yok oZa r: wel l,t he lat ter is  notapro b l em ac t u al ly. .b ut the for m e r w ill b ea bi g piece  of work to do
 *\ shbrb
<dholbach > s lice r :  I 'du se the  r e pla c e s
 * dholbach i s out forad og walk now
< d hol ba ch> see  you la ter
< m ok0> It 's someth ing theydo  for g eek s now. Giv e them a  dog so t h ey ge t  i nto t heopen o nc e i n a w hile : - P
< Hobbs ee> op en ?  wha t's t ha t?
<mok0 > hehe
 * Hobbsee wonde rs ifthat
 it?
<ubotwo>_Launchpad bug_194836 in mumble "Update_to 1.1.3_(bugfixes)"_[Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194836
<\sh>_YokoZar:_correct :)
<YokoZar> Or_any app like_it.  Hell, no_reason any old_application_couldn't be packaged this way (provided it worked in Wine).  That was one_of_the original_goals_of_Lindows click and run, actually_- to share revenue selling_Windows software._ Wine just didn't work too well back_then.
<YokoZar>_For MOTU purposes,_we could package free apps without good linux equivalents_(say, eMule)
<\sh> YokoZar: if it compiles_from source, sure_:)
<YokoZar>_\sh:_True.  Getting Visual_Studio programs to compile on Linux_has been a fantasy of mine_for a while.
<\sh> btw...any reason why we_don't have APC (php optimizer/cache) in_our archives, but only xcache?
<YokoZar>_There was_some interest in it by_one of the_scons developers._ I should_get back in touch with him._ Basically the_idea was to run a visual_studio_project through some_magic_python_script and_then end up_with_an scons_project_that we could build in linux_with_winelib
<\sh> YokoZar: what about the propietary MSVC_compiler crap?
<YokoZar> \sh: Some_of_that is portable. _The weird patented exception handling,_for instance, can be handled with_some macros_to translate_it into GCC stuff.  The windows API header files, on_the other hand, are handled by_Winelib's reimplementation.
<\sh> YokoZar: well,_the latter_is_not a problem_actually..but_the former_will be a big piece of work_to do
_* \sh brb
<dholbach> slicer: I'd use_the replaces
 * dholbach_is_out for a dogwalk now
<dholbach> see_you later
<mok0> It's something they do_for geeks now. Give them_a_dog_so they get into the_open once in a while :-P
<Hobbsee>_open?  what's_that?
<mok0> hehe
 * Hobbsee wonders if that