 if there's a special contact address for them?
<StevenK> Ah. Personally, I am not sure myself.
<LLStarks> hi, i'm trying to backtrace deluge, which is now crashing  upon launch in natty. what should i feed to gdb?
<RAOF> LLStarks: deluge is python, right?
<LLStarks> yeah
<LLStarks> segfaulting hard
<RAOF> LLStarks: You'll want to run âgdb pythonâ and then ârun /path/to/delugeâ
<LLStarks> i'll need python-dbgsym/dbg or deluge symbols?
<RAOF> Deluge won't have symbols, unless it's got a native component.
<RAOF> I'd just run it and see where it dies; the backtrace will probably give you a good idea of what symbols you need :)
<kklimonda> how strict is FF for univers? Is it "every new feature must go through the release team" or rather "use your head, stupid"?
<kklimonda> actually, how strict is it for "main", and is there any difference?
<kklimonda> also, probably s/universe/unseeded/ would make more sense
<micahg> kklimonda: every feature needs to go through the release team
<kklimonda> ok, thanks
<micahg> kklimonda: it's more likely to be granted for a universe leaf package vs something in main though
<ScottK> kklimonda: As micahg says.
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<kklimonda> is there a "oneliner" I could use to get a list of binary reverse dependencies of the given source package? i.e. all binary packages that depend on binary packages built from the given source package.
<micahg> kklimonda: there's a script that pitti gave me, but it requires a copy of the Packages and Sources indices from the archive
<kklimonda> micahg: I guess I can live with that, could you put it somewhere?
<micahg> kklimonda: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/scripts/checkrdepends
<kklimonda> thanks
if there's a special contact address for them? 
 < StevenK > Ah. Personally, I am not sure myself. 
 < LLStarks > hi, i'm judge to backtrace flood, which is now crashing   upon launch in natty. what should i prey to gdb? 
 < RAOF > LLStarks: deluge is python, right? 
 < LLStarks > yeah 
 < LLStarks > segfaulting intemperate 
 < RAOF > LLStarks: You'll desire to run âgdb pythonâ and then ârun /path / to / delugeâ 
 < LLStarks > i'll need python - dbgsym / dbg or deluge symbols? 
 < RAOF > Deluge won't have symbols, unless it's get a native component. 
 < RAOF > I'd just move it and determine where it dies; the backtrace will probably give you a good idea of what symbol you need :) 
 < kklimonda > how strict is FF for univers? Is it " every new feature of speech must go through the release team " or preferably " use your mind, stupid "? 
 < kklimonda > actually, how strict is it for " main ", and is there any difference? 
 < kklimonda > also, credibly s / universe / unseeded/ would make more sense 
 < micahg > kklimonda: every feature needs to go through the passing team 
 < kklimonda > ok, thanks 
 < micahg > kklimonda: it's more probable to be granted for a universe leaf package vs something in main though 
 < ScottK > kklimonda: As micahg says. 
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 < kklimonda > is there a " oneliner " I could use to get a list of binary rearward dependence of the given source software? i all binary packages that depend on binary packages built from the give source package. 
 < micahg > kklimonda: there's a script that pitti gave me, but it command a copy of the Packages and Sources indices from the archive 
 < kklimonda > micahg: I guess I can live with that, could you put it somewhere? 
 < micahg > kklimonda: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/scripts/checkrdepends 
 < kklimonda > thanks
 if there's a special contacu address for them?
<StevenN> Ah. Psrsonallh, I am not sure myself.
<LLStarns> hi, i'n trying to backtrace aeluge, whpch is noq creshing  upon lauidh in natty. wgwt skonld i feed to gcb?
<RAOF> LLSdarks: deluge iv oychon, right?
<LLStarks> yeah
<LLStarks> segfwulting hwrd
<RAOF> LLStarhs: Ypt'll sant to run âgdb pythonâ and then âruh /path/tm/delugeâ
<LLStarls> i'll need python-dbgsym/dbh or deluge symbols?
<RAOV> Deluge wob't hwce symbols, uvless it's got a native component.
<RAOF> I'd just run it avd sez where it eiws; hve backtracx will probably giyv you a good icea of what sykbons tou need :)
<kklimonda> hox strict is FF for ugivers? Is ic "every new feature mysr go jhrouch tfw rdlezsx tsam" or ravher "use yohr head, stupid"?
<kklimonda> actualky, yow strict is it fow "iain", and is there any difference?
<kklimonga> zlso, probably s/universe/ynseeded/ would make mlre sense
<iicahg> kklimonda: every feature needs to go througv the feltawe texn
<knlimonda> ok, thanks
<micahg> kklimonda: it's more lyieky to be granted for a univrrde jeaf package xs somzfhjng in main though
<DcottK> hkliminda: As mycahb says.
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<kklimonda> us there a "oueluner" I could use tl get a lisc of bonary reverse dependencies oy the fiven sourcf package? k.e. all binary pazkanes that dekdnd on binary pachages buiot fxom the eivem sourse package.
<licahn> kklimonda: there's w scrnpt tvat pitti have me, but it requires a copy of the Packagex dnd Sources indiges from the arshive
<kklimonda> micahg: I gudss I can mive wivh that, coulq you put it vlmewhere?
<micaig> kklimogda: yttp://people.cxvonical.com/~pitto/scripts/cktckrdependw
<kklimonda> thanks
if there's a special contact address for Ah. I am sure myself. <LLStarks> deluge, is now crashing launch in natty. should i feed to gdb? <RAOF> deluge is python, right? <LLStarks> yeah <LLStarks> segfaulting hard <RAOF> LLStarks: You'll want run âgdb pythonâ and then ârun /path/to/delugeâ <LLStarks> i'll need python-dbgsym/dbg or deluge <RAOF> won't symbols, it's got a native component. <RAOF> I'd just run it and see where it dies; the will probably give you a good idea of symbols you need :) how strict is FF for Is "every new must through release team" or "use your head, stupid"? <kklimonda> actually, how strict is it for "main", and is there any difference? also, probably make more <micahg> every needs to go release team <kklimonda> ok, thanks <micahg> likely to be granted for a universe leaf vs something main though <ScottK> kklimonda: As micahg #ubuntu-motu 2011-03-16 <kklimonda> is there a "oneliner" I use to get a list of binary reverse dependencies of the given source package? i.e. packages that depend on packages built from given package. kklimonda: a script pitti gave me, but it requires a copy of the Packages Sources indices from the archive <kklimonda> micahg: I guess I with could you put somewhere? <micahg> kklimonda: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/scripts/checkrdepends thanks
 if there's a special contact adDress for thEm?
<SteVenk> Ah. peRsonAlly, i am not sure myseLF.
<LLSTarks> hi, i'm trying to backtRace dElUGe, whICh Is now CrashinG  UpON LauNcH iN naTtY. WhAt shoUld I feed to Gdb?
<RAOF> LLSTarKs: Deluge is pythON, rIght?
<LLStarKs> yEah
<LLStarks> sEgfAultinG hArd
<raOF> LLstaRks: YoU'll wanT To run âGdb pythonÂ aND then âRUn /path/tO/DElUgeâ
<lLStarks> i'll need pyTHoN-Dbgsym/dbg or delUge symBoLS?
<Raof> DeLugE won't have sYmBols, uNLess it's GOt A NATivE Component.
<RAOF> i'd just run it ANd sEe wherE iT diES; the baCktraCe WIll Probably givE you A good idea Of what SYmbols yOU need :)
<kkLimondA> hoW stRict IS Ff fOr uNiVErs? iS iT "evERy nEw featurE mUsT go thRougH THE ReleAse Team" Or ratHer "use your heaD, stUpid"?
<KKliMonda> ActuaLly, hOw StricT is it fOr "maiN", aNd is there any difFereNce?
<kklimoNda> AlSo, pRoBably S/UniverSe/uNseEded/ wouLd make mORe sEnSE
<MIcAhg> kklimonda: every fEaTURe Needs to gO throuGH tHe RElease teAm
<KklImonDA> Ok, thaNks
<mICaHg> kklimoNda: it's MOrE lIkely to Be GranteD fOr a UniVerse LEaf pAckage Vs somethIng in MAin though
<Scottk> Kklimonda: As miCAhG SAyS.
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<kklimondA> is tHEre a "OnelINeR" I cOUld usE to geT a LIsT Of binary reverse depeNdEncies Of the Given source paCkage? i.e. all BINAry packaGes tHAt DEpend on binary pAckagEs built froM The given SourcE package.
<Micahg> kklIMOnda: therE's a ScrIpt ThaT PItTi gave me, but it REQuirEs A copy of The packageS anD SoUrcEs iNdIces from tHe archivE
<kKlImOnDa> mIcahg: i Guess I caN lIve WiTh tHat, coULd you pUt it sOmewHeRe?
<MIcaHg> kklimONdA: HTtp://pEoPlE.canOniCaL.com/~pItti/SCriPts/checKrdepends
<KklIMondA> tHaNks
 if there's a special cont act addres s for  th em? 
< Stev enK>  Ah. Personall y , Iam not sure myself.
<L LStar ks >  hi, i' m try ing tob ac k t rac ede lug e, wh ich i s n ow cras hing  upon  la un ch in natty. wh at shouldi f eed to gdb?<RA OF> LL St ark s : del uge  is p ython, right? 
<LLStark s> yeah
< L LStarks > se gfau lting hard
<RAOF> LL S tarks: You'llwant t or un â g dbpythonâan d the n  ârun /p a t h /to / delugeâ
<LL Starks> i'l l  ne ed pyt ho n-d b gsym/d bg or  d e lug e symbols?<RAO F> Deluge  won't have sy m bols, u nlessit' s g ot a na ti veco m pon e nt .
< R AOF > I'd ju st  r un it  and s e e  whe reit d ies;the backtrace  wi ll p r oba bly g ive y ou a  g ood i dea of  what  s ymbols you need  :)<kklimond a>ho w s tr ict i s  FF fo r u niv ers? Is  it "ev e ryne w f ea ture must go throu gh t he  release  team" or  r a ther "us eyou r he a d , stu pid" ? 
< kklimond a> act u al ly , how s tr ict is  i t f or"main " , an d is t here any  diff e rence?
<kklimo n da> also, pro b ab l y  s / univ ers e/unseeded/  wou l d ma ke m o re  se n se
<m icahg >k kl i monda: every featur eneedsto go  through therelease te a m <kklimon da>o k, thanks
<micahg > kkl imonda: it ' s more l ikely  to be g ranted fo r a univer selea f p ack a g evs somethingi n  mai nthough<Sc ottK> k kli mon da:  As  m icahg say s.
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<kklim on da>  i s t herea  "onel iner"  I c ou ld use  to get al i st o fbi nary  re ve rse d epen d enc ies ofthe given  so u rcepa ck age? i. e. all binary  p ackages th at  de pend o n binary p ackages built from theg iven so urc e pac kage .
<micahg > k klimon da: there' s a sc riptth atp i tti g a v eme,  b ut it requ i r esa cop yof t he Pack ages and Sources i n dic es from the a rch ive< k kl imo n da >  mi ca h g:I guess I can liv e with tha t, co uld you pu t  it  s omewher e?
<mic ahg>k klimond a: http:/ /people.c an onic a l .co m/~pitti/s cripts/c heckrdepe n ds
<k k li monda > t hanks
 if_there's a_special contact address for_them?
<StevenK> Ah._Personally,_I am_not_sure myself.
<LLStarks> hi,_i'm trying to_backtrace deluge, which is_now crashing _upon_launch in natty. what should i feed to gdb?
<RAOF> LLStarks: deluge is python, right?
<LLStarks>_yeah
<LLStarks>_segfaulting hard
<RAOF>_LLStarks:_You'll_want to run âgdb pythonâ_and then ârun /path/to/delugeâ
<LLStarks> i'll_need python-dbgsym/dbg_or deluge symbols?
<RAOF> Deluge won't have symbols, unless_it's_got a native_component.
<RAOF> I'd just run it and see where it_dies; the backtrace will probably give_you a good_idea_of_what symbols you need_:)
<kklimonda> how strict is FF for_univers? Is it "every new feature_must go through the release team" or_rather "use your head, stupid"?
<kklimonda> actually,_how strict is it for_"main", and_is there any difference?
<kklimonda> also,_probably s/universe/unseeded/ would_make more_sense
<micahg> kklimonda: every_feature needs to go through the_release team
<kklimonda> ok,_thanks
<micahg> kklimonda: it's more likely to_be_granted for a_universe_leaf_package vs_something in main_though
<ScottK>_kklimonda: As_micahg_says.
#ubuntu-motu 2011-03-16
<kklimonda> is there a "oneliner"_I_could use to get a list of_binary reverse dependencies of_the_given source package? i.e._all binary packages that depend_on binary packages built from the_given source_package.
<micahg> kklimonda:_there's a script that pitti gave me, but it requires a_copy of the Packages and Sources_indices from the archive
<kklimonda>_micahg: I_guess_I can live_with_that, could_you put it somewhere?
<micahg> kklimonda: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/scripts/checkrdepends
<kklimonda> thanks