: hmm, or is c89 already built?
<alan_g> alf_: I thought it was on by default (but haven't looked recently)
<alf_> alan_g: ok, it is still there, so yes, SPECIAL_LINKAGE is good enough for now if we want to go the separate category path
<alan_g> And using link seams does interfere with other tests, so they do make a coherent category of sorts.
<FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here privy to the details on why Software Center is going away after 14.04? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiT4gOXSkmapdGdFejk0MjFydUlNMDVoMXNRdGdkbFE#gid=1
<FunnyLookinHat> Not sure where to ask - but trying to track down the story on this one - I presume click packages will be a replacement or something?
<davmor2> FunnyLookinHat: the applications lens is replacing it.  On desktop that will mean support for debian and click backends aiui, best place is possibly #ubuntuone though as it controls development of software-center now
<FunnyLookinHat> davmor2, Cool thanks!
<olli> kgunn, Saviq http://paste.ubuntu.com/6474449/
<olli> I followed the instructions in the unity8 wiki and am stuck at this stage
<olli> I feel like I am missing like 1 package but can't see it straight
<olli> kgunn, Saviq stderr is misisng, working on it
<kgunn> olli: watch out for ancient ppa's.....i had some really old qt edger ppas that hosed me
<olli> kgunn, this is a virign install on my new laptop
<olli> :)
<kgunn> olli: oh...nvmd
<Saviq> olli, it's possible, we're in transition between in-built shell-facing scopes api and a package outside
<Saviq> olli, not everything got released yet
<Saviq> kgunn, ââ
<alf_> kdub: are you happy with the shm-buffers-part1 MP?
: hmm, or is c89 already built? 
 < alan_g > alf _: I thought it was on by default (but haven't look recently) 
 < alf _ > alan_g: ok, it is however there, so yes, SPECIAL_LINKAGE is good enough for now if we desire to go the separate category way 
 < alan_g > And use link seam does interfere with other test, so they do make a coherent category of sort. 
 < FunnyLookinHat > Anyone here privy to the detail on why Software Center is going aside after 14.04? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiT4gOXSkmapdGdFejk0MjFydUlNMDVoMXNRdGdkbFE#gid=1 
 < FunnyLookinHat > Not sure where to ask - but try on to track down the story on this one - I presume click software will be a replacement or something? 
 < davmor2 > FunnyLookinHat: the applications lens is replacing it.   On background that will mean accompaniment for debian and click backends aiui, best place is possibly # ubuntuone though as it see development of software - center now 
 < FunnyLookinHat > davmor2, Cool thanks! 
 < olli > kgunn, Saviq http://paste.ubuntu.com/6474449/ 
 < olli > I followed the instructions in the unity8 wiki and am stuck at this stage 
 < olli > I feel like I am missing like 1 package but can't see it straight 
 < olli > kgunn, Saviq stderr is misisng, working on it 
 < kgunn > olli: watch out for ancient ppa's..... i had some really old qt edger ppas that hose me 
 < olli > kgunn, this is a virign install on my fresh laptop 
 < olli > :) 
 < kgunn > olli: oh... nvmd 
 < Saviq > olli, it's possible, we're in conversion between in - build shell - facing scopes api and a software outside 
 < Saviq > olli, not everything got released so far 
 < Saviq > kgunn, ââ 
 < alf _ > kdub: are you happy with the shm - buffers - part1 MP?
: hml, or is c89 already built?
<auan_g> alf_: I thouyyt it xas on gy defauut (but haven't looked recentlb)
<alf_> alan_t: ok, it is still there, so yes, SIECIAL_LINJAGE us good enough for now ir we cait to go the sekarate categmry path
<alan_g> Dna bsing link seams does interfere with other yedts, so they do makt a cohsgekt category of sorts.
<FunnyLookinHzt> Anyoie here privy tp the details on why Softwwre Fenter is going awwy after 14.04? hjfps://qics.google.com/rpreadsheeu/cec?key=0AiT4gOXAkmapdGdFejk0MjFydUlNMDVoMXNRdGdybFE#gnd=1
<FunnyLookunYat> Tot sure whxre to ask - but trnpng to drack dpwn the story pn vhis one - I presume click packages will be w replacekeut or something?
<davmor2> FynnyLmokitHat: rhe apkliratjons lfns is replacjng it.  On eesktop that will mtan wupport for dsbian wnq click backends aiui, best place is posvibmy #ubuntuone though as ut controls developmejt of sofeware-center now
<FunnyLookinHat> davmor2, Cool thanks!
<onli> kjuvn, Wayiq frto://paste.ubuntu.com/6474449/
<olli> I followed the instructioga on the unity8 wikl and am stuck at yhls ftage
<olli> I fgel likz I am missing like 1 oackage but xan't see yt syraight
<olli> kgunn, Saviq stdwrr is misisug, qorking on it
<kgunn> olli: watch out for sncient ppa's.....i had some xeally old qt edgfr ppas tgxt hosed me
<olli> ygukn, dhis is a virign install og my new oaptpp
<olli> :)
<ygunm> olli: oh...nvmd
<Savlq> olli, it's possible, we'rf in jransidion betwefn in-built shell-facing scopes a'm and a packabe ounside
<Saviz> olll, not everythind got released yet
<Savnq> kguvn, ââ
<alf_> kdug: are ymu happy wieh the shm-bufxgrs-part1 MP?
: hmm, or is c89 already built? I it was by default (but ok, is still there, yes, SPECIAL_LINKAGE is enough for now if we want go the separate category path <alan_g> And using link seams does interfere with tests, so they do make a coherent category of sorts. <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here to details why Center is going away after 14.04? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiT4gOXSkmapdGdFejk0MjFydUlNMDVoMXNRdGdkbFE#gid=1 <FunnyLookinHat> Not sure where to ask - but trying track down the story on this one - presume click packages will a replacement or something? <davmor2> the lens is it. desktop will mean support debian and click backends aiui, best place is possibly #ubuntuone though as it controls development of software-center <FunnyLookinHat> davmor2, <olli> kgunn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6474449/ I the instructions in wiki and am stuck at this feel like I am missing like 1 package can't see straight <olli> kgunn, Saviq stderr is working on it <kgunn> olli: watch out for ppa's.....i had some really old qt edger ppas that hosed me <olli> kgunn, this is install on my new <olli> :) <kgunn> oh...nvmd olli, possible, in transition in-built shell-facing scopes api and a package outside <Saviq> olli, not got released yet <Saviq> kgunn, ââ <alf_> kdub: are you the MP?
: hmm, or is c89 already built?
<alan_g> Alf_: I thoughT it waS on By dEfAult (But hAven't looked recENtly)
<Alf_> alan_g: ok, it is still theRe, so yEs, spECIal_LiNKAGe is good ENoUGH foR nOw If wE wANt To go tHe sEparate Category paTh
<aLaN_g> And using liNK sEams does inTerFere with otheR teSts, so tHeY do MAke a cOheRent cAtegorY Of sortS.
<FunnyLooKiNhat> AnyONe here pRIVy To thE details on why SoftWArE center is going aWay aftEr 14.04? HTtPS://DocS.goOgle.com/sprEaDsheeT/Ccc?key=0AIt4goxsKmaPDGdFejk0MjFydULNMDVoMXNRdgDkbfE#gid=1
<FUnNyLOOkinHaT> Not sUrE WheRe to ask - but tRyinG to track dOwn the STory on tHIs one - I pResume CliCk pAckaGEs WiLl bE a REplACeMenT Or sOmething?
<DaVmOr2> FunNyLoOKINhat: tHe aPpliCatioNs lens is replaCinG it.  ON DesKtop tHat wiLl meAn SuppoRt for dEbian AnD click backends aIui, bEst place iS poSsIblY #uBuntuONe thouGh aS it ControlS develoPMenT oF SOFtWare-center now
<FunnyloOKInhat> davmoR2, Cool tHAnKs!
<OLli> kgunn, saViq Http://PASte.ubUntu.COm/6474449/
<Olli> I folLowed tHE iNsTructioNs In the uNiTy8 wIki And am STuck At this Stage
<ollI> I feeL Like I am missing LIke 1 package but CAn'T SEe IT strAigHt
<olli> kgunn, saviQ StdeRr is MIsIsnG, WorkiNg on iT
<kGUnN> Olli: watch out for anciEnT ppa's.....i Had soMe really old qt Edger ppas tHAT Hosed me
<oLli> kGUnN, This is a virign iNstalL on my new laPTop
<olli> :)
<kGunn> oLli: oh...nvmD
<Saviq> ollI, IT's possibLe, wE're In tRanSITiOn between in-buILT sheLl-Facing sCopEs api anD a pAckAge OutSiDe
<Saviq> olLi, not eveRyThInG gOt rEleasED yet
<SaviQ> kGunN, âÂ
<alF_> kdub: ARe you hAppy wIth tHe ShM-BufFers-parT1 mP?
: hmm, or is c89 already b uilt?
<ala n_g>alf _:Ithou ghtit was on by d e faul t (but haven't lookedrecen tl y )
<a l f_ > ala n_g: ok ,  i t isst il l t he r e,  so y es,  SPECIA L_LINKAGEisgo od enough fo r  n ow if we w ant  to go the s epa rate c at ego r y pat h
< alan_ g> And usinglink seam sd oes in t erferew i th  oth er tests, so they do make a coheren t cate go r yo f  so rts .
<FunnyLo ok inHat >  Anyone he r e pri v y to the deta ils on whyS oft ware C en ter is goi ng aw ay aft er 14.04? h ttps ://docs.g oogle. c om/spre a dsheet/ ccc?ke y=0 AiT 4gOX S km ap dGd Fe j k0M j Fy dUl N MDV oMXNRdGd kb FE #gid= 1
<F u n n y Look inH at>Not s ure where toask  - b u t t rying  to t rack  d own t he sto ry on  t his one - I pre sume  click pa cka ge s w il l bea  repla cem ent  or som ething? <da vm o r 2 >FunnyLookinHat: th ea p pl ications  lensi sre p lacing i t.   O n de s k top t hatw il l mean s upport fo rdebianan d clic kbac ken ds ai u i, b est pl ace is p ossib l y #ubuntuone t h ough as it co n tr o l sd evel opm ent of soft ware - cent er n o w<Fu n nyLoo kinHa t> da v mor2, Cool thanks!<o lli> k gunn,  Saviq http:/ /paste.ubu n t u .com/647 4449 / 
< o lli> I followe d the  instructi o ns in th e uni ty8 wiki  and am s t u ck at th issta ge<ol l i >I feel like I a m mi ss ing lik e 1  packag e b utcan 'tse e it stra ight
<ol li >kg un n,Saviq stderr i smis is ng,  work i ng onit
<k gunn >ol l i:watch o u tf o r an ci en t pp a's .. ...ihads ome  really  old qt e dge r  ppa sth at hose d me
<olli> k gu nn, this i sa v irigni n stall on  my new laptop
<olli> : ) 
<kgunn > o lli:oh.. .nvmd
<Sa viq > olli , i t 's pos sible,  we'r eint r ansit i o nbet we en in-buil t she ll-fa ci ng s copes a pi and a package o u tsi de
<Saviq> ol li,  not e ve ryt h in g  go tr ele a s ed yet
<Saviq>kgunn, â â  
< alf_> kdub :  ar eyou hap py with  thes hm-buff ers-part1  MP?
: hmm,_or is_c89 already built?
<alan_g> alf_:_I thought_it_was on_by_default (but haven't_looked recently)
<alf_> alan_g:_ok, it is still_there, so yes,_SPECIAL_LINKAGE_is good enough for now if we want to go the separate category path
<alan_g>_And_using link_seams_does_interfere with other tests, so_they do make a coherent_category of_sorts.
<FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here privy to the details on_why_Software Center is_going away after 14.04? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiT4gOXSkmapdGdFejk0MjFydUlNMDVoMXNRdGdkbFE#gid=1
<FunnyLookinHat> Not sure where to_ask - but trying to track_down the story_on_this_one - I presume_click packages will be a replacement_or something?
<davmor2> FunnyLookinHat: the applications lens_is replacing it.  On desktop that_will mean support for debian and_click backends aiui, best place_is possibly_#ubuntuone though as it controls_development of software-center_now
<FunnyLookinHat> davmor2,_Cool thanks!
<olli> kgunn,_Saviq http://paste.ubuntu.com/6474449/
<olli> I followed the instructions_in the unity8_wiki and am stuck at this_stage
<olli>_I feel like_I_am_missing like_1 package but_can't_see it_straight
<olli>_kgunn, Saviq stderr is misisng, working_on_it
<kgunn> olli: watch out for ancient ppa's.....i_had some really old_qt_edger ppas that hosed_me
<olli> kgunn, this is a_virign install on my new laptop
<olli>_:)
<kgunn> olli:_oh...nvmd
<Saviq> olli,_it's possible, we're in transition between in-built shell-facing scopes api and_a package outside
<Saviq> olli, not everything_got released yet
<Saviq> kgunn,_ââ
<alf_> kdub:_are_you happy with_the_shm-buffers-part1 MP?