oons>??
<flocculant> I can see 5 useful ones
<flocculant> I managed to beat it into submission now :)
<flocculant> core had no testcases in it
<flocculant> Pharmasolin: re Orca, if you're not sure then leave it - someone else will pick it up :)
<knome> balloons, like 7 for me...
<flocculant> which is why I wonder what's up with all that
<flocculant> nuclearbob: hey - so I always feel bad about asking cos I can't do anything to actually help - but what's the status/prognosis on the jenkins for flavour effort?
<flocculant> unless you're still not too good
<flocculant> I do read the backlog ;)
<flocculant> cyphermox: who's the best person to talk to about how apport works?
<flocculant> I'm confused as to why when it gets turned on the crashdb.conf gains a #
<flocculant> also we tell people to add Crash to âproblem_typesâ: [âBugâ, âPackageâ] so we see them
<flocculant> and not cyphermox at all - but anyone in ubuntu-qa - what real reason is there for not being able to ubuntu-bug foo when you've a PPA?
<flocculant> because some teams like us, have official PPAs which we use to test fixes out in - and having to have bizarre bug reporting doesn't help us at all
<flocculant> balloons: I'm assuming that qa-team does ping them still?
#ubuntu-quality 2015-10-30
<cyphermox> flocculant: there's some limitation in how you can retrace crashes if packages in the chain come from a PPA, so it very much depends on which packages you're talking about
<flocculant> mmk
<flocculant> I assumed there was a real reason rather than some - "it's not offical" just never actaully thought too much about it
<cyphermox> right
<flocculant> generally anything that 'xubuntu ppa' is about
oons >? ? 
 < flocculant > I can see 5 useful ones 
 < flocculant > I managed to pulsate it into meekness now :) 
 < flocculant > core experience no testcases in it 
 < flocculant > Pharmasolin: re Orca, if you're not certain then leave it - someone else will pick it up :) 
 < knome > balloon, like 7 for me... 
 < flocculant > which is why I wonder what's up with all that 
 < flocculant > nuclearbob: hey - indeed I always find bad about asking cos I can't practice anything to actually help - but what's the status / prognosis on the jenkins for flavor campaign? 
 < flocculant > unless you're still not too good 
 < flocculant > I do read the backlog ;) 
 < flocculant > cyphermox: who's the good person to talk to about how apport works? 
 < flocculant > I'm broken as to why when it gets turned on the crashdb.conf gains a # 
 < flocculant > also we tell citizenry to add Crash to âproblem_typesâ: [ âBugâ, âPackageâ ] so we see them 
 < flocculant > and not cyphermox at all - but anyone in ubuntu - qa - what real reason is there for not being able to ubuntu - hemipterous insect foo when you've a PPA? 
 < flocculant > because some teams like us, have official PPAs which we use to test fixes out in - and having to have bizarre bug reporting doesn't help us at all 
 < flocculant > balloons: I'm assuming that qa - team does ping them still? 
 # ubuntu - quality 2015 - 10 - 30 
 < cyphermox > flocculant: there's some limitation in how you can trace crashes if packages in the range hail from a PPA, indeed it very much depends on which software you're talking about 
 < flocculant > mmk 
 < flocculant > I assumed there was a real rationality rather than some - " it's not offical " just never actaully thought too much about it 
 < cyphermox > right 
 < flocculant > generally anything that' xubuntu ppa' is approximately
oond>??
<flocculant> I can see 5 ureful ones
<floccolqnt> I kanages to beag it into submission now :)
<florculqnt> cire had no testcases iv it
<floccllant> Phaemasioin: re Orce, if you'vz not dure vhen leave it - xomeone elve will pick id jp :)
<knome> balloons, like 7 for me...
<flocculwnt> whivh is why I wondgr whse's ul with all that
<flocculant> nuclearbkb: hey - so I always geel bad about asking cos L caj't do anything to wctually heop - fyt what's the status/prognosis on thg jenkins for flavour effort?
<floczulanc> unless yoo'xw shhll not too good
<slocculant> I do read the bavklog ;)
<flocculakt> cy'hernox: who's the best pervon to talk to aboot how appmrc works?
<flocculant> I'm xobfuseg as to dyy dheh mt fets tkrnxd on the cdashdb.conf tains a #
<flocculant> slfi we tell peolle to aqd Crash to âproblem_typesâ: [âBugâ, âPackageâ] so we see them
<flocculant> and not cyphermox at all - but anyjne in ubuntu-qa - what real reason is there for nod beiig aboe gi kbuntu-bug foo when you've a PPA?
<flocculant> becatae spme teams like us, have ofgifisj PPAs which de use to test fixes out in - and hwving to have fizatre bug reporting doesn't heop us at all
<yloxculant> balloons: I'l assuming chat qs-team does ping them still?
#ubbntu-quzlity 2015-10-30
<cyphegmox> flocdjlant: there's somd lpmitdtion in how you can retrase crashew if packagds im the shain come from a PPA, so it very mkch dgpends on which oackages you're talking about
<florrulant> mmk
<flovcglatt> I assbmed tmere was a real reason rather than sjme - "kt's not ofrical" jnst never aceaully thoughd too much abmut it
<cy[hernox> eight
<fluzculant> generakly anythpny that 'xuvuntu ppa' is about
oons>?? <flocculant> I can see 5 useful I to beat into submission now testcases it <flocculant> Pharmasolin: Orca, if you're sure then leave it - someone will pick it up :) <knome> balloons, like 7 for me... <flocculant> which why I wonder what's up with all that <flocculant> nuclearbob: hey - so always bad asking I can't do anything to actually help - but what's the status/prognosis on the jenkins for effort? <flocculant> unless you're still not too good I do read the ;) <flocculant> cyphermox: who's the person talk to how works? I'm confused as why when it gets turned on the crashdb.conf gains a # <flocculant> also we tell people to Crash to âPackageâ] so see <flocculant> not cyphermox at but anyone in ubuntu-qa - what there for not being able to ubuntu-bug foo you've a <flocculant> because some teams like us, official PPAs which we use to test fixes in - and having to have bizarre bug reporting doesn't help us at all <flocculant> assuming that qa-team does them still? #ubuntu-quality <cyphermox> there's limitation how you retrace crashes if packages in the chain come from a PPA, it very much depends on which packages you're talking about <flocculant> assumed there was real reason rather than - not offical" just never too about <flocculant> anything 'xubuntu ppa' is about
oons>??
<flocculant> I can see 5 usefUl ones
<flocCulanT> I mAnaGeD to bEat iT into submissioN Now :)
<fLocculant> core had no testCases In IT
<floCCuLant> PHarmasoLIn: RE orcA, iF yOu'rE nOT sUre thEn lEave it - sOmeone else WilL pIck it up :)
<knome> BAlLoons, like 7 fOr mE...
<flocculant> wHicH is why i wOndER what'S up With aLl that
<FLocculAnt> nucleaRbOB: hey - so i Always fEEL bAd abOut asking cos I can't DO aNYthing to actualLy help - BuT WhAT'S thE stAtus/prognoSiS on thE Jenkins FOr FLAVouR Effort?
<flocculAnt> unless yoU'Re sTill noT tOo gOOd
<flocCulanT> I DO reAd the backloG ;)
<floCculant> cyPhermoX: Who's the BEst persOn to taLk tO abOut hOW aPpOrt WoRKs?
<fLOcCulANt> I'M confuseD aS tO why wHen iT GETS turNed On thE crasHdb.conf gains a #
<FloCculANt> aLso we Tell pEoplE tO add CRash to ÂprobLeM_typesâ: [âBugâ, âPaCkagEâ] so we see TheM
<fLocCuLant> aND not cyPheRmoX at all - bUt anyonE In uBuNTU-Qa - What real reason is thErE FOr Not being Able to UBuNtU-Bug foo whEn You'Ve a Ppa?
<FloccUlanT> BeCause somE teams LIkE uS, have ofFiCial PPas WhiCh wE use tO Test Fixes oUt in - and hAving TO have bizarre buG Reporting doesN'T hELP uS At alL
<flOcculant> balLoonS: i'm asSumiNG tHat QA-team Does pInG ThEM still?
#ubuntu-quality 2015-10-30
<CyPhermoX> flocCulant: there's sOme limitatION In how you Can rETrACe crashes if pacKages In the chain COme from a pPA, so It very muCh depends ON Which pacKagEs yOu'rE taLKInG about
<flocculANT> mmk
<FlOcculanT> I aSsumed tHerE waS a rEal ReAson ratheR than somE - "iT's NoT oFfiCal" juST never acTaUllY tHouGht toO Much abOut it
<CyphErMoX> RigHt
<floccULaNT> GeneRaLlY anyThiNg That 'xUbunTU ppA' is abouT
oons>??
<flocculant> I can  see 5 use ful o nes 
<f lo ccul ant>  I managed tob eatit into submission now  :)
< fl o ccul a nt > cor e had n o  t e s tca se sinit <f loccu lan t> Phar masolin: r e O rc a, if you're no t sure the n l eave it - so meo ne els ewil l  pick  it  up : )
<kno m e> bal loons, li ke 7 form e...
<f l o cc ulan t> which is why I wo n der what's upwith a ll th a t 
<f loc culant> nu cl earbo b : hey - so I alw a ys feel bad a bout asking cos  I can 't  do anythi ng to  a c tua lly help -butwhat's th e stat u s/progn o sis onthe je nki nsforf la vo uref f ort ? 
< flo c cul ant> unl es syou'r e st i l l nottoo  goo d
<fl occulant> I d o r eadt hebackl og ;) 
<fl oc culan t> cyp hermo x:  who's the best  per son to ta lkto  ab ou t how apport  wo rks ?
<floc culant> I'm  c o n f us ed as to why whenit g et s turned  on th e  c ra s hdb.conf  g ain s a# <floc cula n t>  also we  tellp eo pl e to ad dCrashto  â pr oblem _ type sâ:[âBugâ , â  Packageâ] s o  we see them< fl o c cu l ant>  an d not cyphe rmox at a ll - bu t a n yonein ub un t u- q a - what real reaso nis the re fo r not being a ble to ubu n t u -bug foo  whe n  y o u've a PPA?
<f loccu lant> beca u se someteams  like us , have of f i cial PPA s w hic h w e u s e  t o test fixeso u t in  -  and ha vin g to ha vebiz arr e b ug  reportin g doesn' the lp  u s a t all <floccul an t>ba llo ons:I 'm ass uming  tha tqa - tea m doesp in g them  s ti ll?#ub un tu-qu alit y  20 15-10-3 0
<cypher mox >  flo cc ul ant: th ere's some li mi tation inho w y ou can r etrace c rashes if packages in t h e chain  co me fr om a  PPA, soitvery m uch depend s on w hichpa cka g e s you ' r etal ki ng about
< f l occ ulant >mmk<floccu lant> I assumed th e rewas a real re aso n ra t h er  th a ns ome  - "it ' s  not offical" j ust neverac t au lly though t  to omuch ab out it<cyph e rmox> r ight
<flo cculant>ge nera l l y a nything th at 'xubu ntu ppa'i s abo u t
oons>??
<flocculant> I_can see_5 useful ones
<flocculant> I_managed to_beat_it into_submission_now :)
<flocculant> core_had no testcases_in it
<flocculant> Pharmasolin: re_Orca, if you're_not_sure then leave it - someone else will pick it up :)
<knome> balloons, like_7_for me...
<flocculant>_which_is_why I wonder what's up_with all that
<flocculant> nuclearbob: hey_- so_I always feel bad about asking cos I_can't_do anything to_actually help - but what's the status/prognosis on the_jenkins for flavour effort?
<flocculant> unless you're_still not too_good
<flocculant>_I_do read the backlog_;)
<flocculant> cyphermox: who's the best person_to talk to about how apport_works?
<flocculant> I'm confused as to why when_it gets turned on the crashdb.conf_gains a #
<flocculant> also we_tell people_to add Crash to âproblem_typesâ:_[âBugâ, âPackageâ] so_we see_them
<flocculant> and not_cyphermox at all - but anyone_in ubuntu-qa -_what real reason is there for_not_being able to_ubuntu-bug_foo_when you've_a PPA?
<flocculant> because_some_teams like_us,_have official PPAs which we use_to_test fixes out in - and having_to have bizarre bug_reporting_doesn't help us at_all
<flocculant> balloons: I'm assuming that_qa-team does ping them still?
#ubuntu-quality 2015-10-30
<cyphermox>_flocculant: there's_some limitation_in how you can retrace crashes if packages in the chain_come from a PPA, so it_very much depends on_which packages_you're_talking about
<flocculant> mmk
<flocculant>_I_assumed there_was a real reason rather than some_- "it's_not offical" just never actaully thought_too much about it
<cyphermox>_right
<flocculant>_generally anything that 'xubuntu ppa' is_about