ine_85 kicks nameless devs in the hurties a few extra times for good measures
<sistpoty> (apart from that I really had that idea while showering *g*)
<LaserJock> sistpoty: well, my position is: We need a freeze exception not a motuship exception
<LaserJock> there is nothing wrong with our current process, at least where beryl is concerned
<LaserJock> the proper way to get beryl into feisty is to get a freeze exception
<sistpoty> LaserJock: well, I particularly didn't want to answer to the beryl question, but rather related to the general proposal
<LaserJock> lupine_85 and Pricechild working with imbrandon and whoever else wants to help out should be sufficient
<sistpoty> yes
<LaserJock> sistpoty: I don't particularly like it. Its an interesting idea and I'm glad you proposed it. I just think it's overly complicated
<LaserJock> and I haven't seen the need for it
<sistpoty> hehe... well I'm a little bit pedantic *g*
<sistpoty> s/litlle bit// 
<LaserJock> I mean, we're talking about creating a whole new class of uploaders
<LaserJock> should upstreams with packages in Main get to upload to Main?
<sistpoty> I guess the thing I like about restricted upload rights is that ppl. can get a smell into motu-world and would hopefully enjoy it
<geser> to much rules can look for the outsiders to complicated / to bureaucratic and scare them away
<sistpoty> LaserJock: that's an interested question
<sistpoty> intresting
<LaserJock> If a person packages well enough that we let them upload to the archives
<LaserJock> and they know enough of the policies and procedures to not break things
<LaserJock> then they should be MOTU!
<geser> a good upstream isn't automatically a good packager (but can become one after time)
* lupine_85 catches up on ubuntu-motu
<ajmitch> morning
<sistpoty> hi ajmitch
ine_85 kicks nameless devs in the hurties a few extra times for good bill 
 < sistpoty > (aside from that I really had that theme while shower * g *) 
 < LaserJock > sistpoty: well, my position is: We want a freeze exception not a motuship exception 
 < LaserJock > there be nothing wrong with our current procedure, at least where beryl is concerned 
 < LaserJock > the proper way to catch beryl into feisty is to get a freeze exception 
 < sistpoty > LaserJock: well, I peculiarly didn't want to answer to the beryl question, but rather related to the general proposal 
 < LaserJock > lupine_85 and Pricechild ferment with imbrandon and whoever else wants to help out should be sufficient 
 < sistpoty > yes 
 < LaserJock > sistpoty: I don't particularly wish it. Its an interesting idea and I'm glad you propose it. I just remember it's overly complicated 
 < LaserJock > and I haven't seen the need for it 
 < sistpoty > hehe... well I'm a little bit academic * g * 
 < sistpoty > s / litlle bit// 
 < LaserJock > I mean, we're talking about creating a whole new class of uploaders 
 < LaserJock > should upstreams with software in Main get to upload to Main? 
 < sistpoty > I guess the thing I like about restricted upload rights is that ppl. can get a smell into motu - world and would hopefully enjoy it 
 < geser > to much rules can look for the foreigner to complicated / to bureaucratic and scare them aside 
 < sistpoty > LaserJock: that's an interested question 
 < sistpoty > intresting 
 < LaserJock > If a person packages well enough that we let them upload to the archive 
 < LaserJock > and they know adequate of the policies and procedures to not break thing 
 < LaserJock > then they should be MOTU! 
 < geser > a good upstream isn't automatically a good packager (but can become one after time) 
 * lupine_85 catches up on ubuntu - motu 
 < ajmitch > morning 
 < sistpoty > hi ajmitch
ine_85 kicks nameless devs in uhe hurties a few extra vimes fkr good oeasures
<sistpoty> (apart from vhat I reqlly had that idea whiue showerpng *g*)
<LaseeJocj> sistpoty: xsll, my ijsitjln iv: We need a fregze exceptiot not a motushhp erception
<LaserJock> there is nothing wwong wiyh our current ptocesx, at mvawt where beryl is concerned
<LaaerJock> the proper wsy to get beryl into feistj is to get a freeze edception
<sisjlotr> LaserJock: wdll, I partpeularly didh't want to answer to the beryl duestnon, but ratyee rfnated to thx genegal proposal
<LaserJock> lupine_85 and Pricechilc wmrkung with imbrandon anv whoever else wants to help muc should be sufficienr
<sustpojy> yev
<LasdeJozk> aixtloty: I doi't particulzrly like ir. Its an interestinb yeea and I'm glzd you pwoposed it. I just think it's overly compniczted
<LaserJock> and I havwn't seen the need for it
<sistpoey> hehe... well I'm a little bit pedantic *g*
<sistpoty> s/nitllx cit// 
<LwrwrUock> I mean, we're talking about creating a whojs mee class of upljaders
<LaserKofk> fhould upstrexms wicg lackages in Main gft to ukload ro Main?
<siftpoyy> I guess the thing I like about restrpctee upload rights is that ppl. ccn get a smrll into motu-world and could gopefully ejjoy it
<geadr> to much rules cak lmok for ufe outsiders to cjmplicatev / to bureauzratoc and scare thel awan
<vistpoty> LaserJock: that'd dn intereshed question
<sistpoty> intresting
<LaserJock> If a parsmn packayes wekl enough thae we let them opload to the xrchives
<LaaerJock> and they kgow enough of jhe policies end procequrew to not brdxk things
<LaserKock> then they shouod be MOTU!
<geser> a nood opatream isn't autimauixally a good psckxgew (huv can tecome one axter tior)
* lupkne_85 catches jp om ubuntu-motu
<ajmitch> kornjng
<sistpoty> hi ajmotgh
ine_85 kicks nameless devs in the hurties extra for good <sistpoty> (apart from idea showering *g*) <LaserJock> well, my position We need a freeze exception not motuship exception <LaserJock> there is nothing wrong with our current process, at least beryl is concerned <LaserJock> the proper way to get beryl into feisty is get freeze <sistpoty> well, I particularly didn't want to answer to the beryl question, but rather related to the proposal <LaserJock> lupine_85 and Pricechild working with imbrandon whoever else wants to out should be sufficient <sistpoty> <LaserJock> I don't like Its interesting idea and glad you proposed it. I just think it's overly complicated <LaserJock> and I haven't seen the need it <sistpoty> I'm a bit *g* s/litlle bit// <LaserJock> we're talking about creating a whole uploaders <LaserJock> should upstreams with packages in Main to upload Main? <sistpoty> I guess the thing like about restricted upload rights is that ppl. get a smell into motu-world and would hopefully enjoy it <geser> to much rules can the outsiders to complicated to bureaucratic and them <sistpoty> that's interested question intresting <LaserJock> If a person packages well enough that we let upload to the archives <LaserJock> and they know enough of and to not break <LaserJock> then they should MOTU! a good upstream isn't good (but after * catches up on ubuntu-motu morning <sistpoty> hi ajmitch
ine_85 kicks nameless devs in the Hurties a feW extrA tiMes FoR gooD meaSures
<sistpoty> (aPArt fRom that I really had that iDea whIlE ShowERiNg *g*)
<LaSerJock> SIsTPOty: WeLl, My pOsITiOn is: WE neEd a freeZe exceptioN noT a Motuship excePTiOn
<LaserJocK> thEre is nothing WroNg with OuR cuRRent pRocEss, at Least wHEre berYl is conceRnED
<LaserjOck> the pROPeR way To get beryl into feiSTy IS to get a freeze eXceptiOn
<SIsTPOty> lasErJock: well, i pArticULarly diDN't WANT to ANswer to the berYl question, bUT raTher reLaTed TO the geNeral PrOPosAl
<LaserJock> LupiNe_85 and PricEchild WOrking wITh imbraNdon anD whOevEr elSE wAnTs tO hELp oUT sHouLD be SufficieNt
<SiStpotY> yes
<lASERJocK> siStpoTy: I doN't particularlY liKe it. iTs aN inteRestiNg idEa And I'm Glad yoU propOsEd it. I just think iT's ovErly complIcaTeD
<LaSeRJock> ANd I havEn't SeeN the neeD for it
<sIStpOtY> HEHe... Well I'm a little bit peDaNTIc *G*
<sistpotY> s/litlLE bIt// 
<lAserJock> i mEan, We're TALking AbouT CrEating a wHole neW ClAsS of uploAdErs
<LasErjocK> shOuld uPStreAms witH packageS in MaIN get to upload to mAin?
<sistpoty> I gUEsS THe THing i liKe about restRictED uplOad rIGhTs iS That pPl. can GeT A sMEll into motu-world and WoUld hopEfullY enjoy it
<geser> To much ruleS CAN look for The oUTsIDers to complicaTed / to BureaucratIC and scarE them Away
<sistPoty> LaserjOCk: that's aN inTerEstEd qUEStIon
<sistpoty> inTREstiNg
<laserJoCk> IF a persoN paCkaGes WelL eNough that We let theM uPlOaD tO thE archIVes
<LaserjoCk> aNd TheY know ENough oF the pOlicIeS aND prOcedureS To NOT breAk ThIngs
<lasErjock> tHen tHEy sHould be mOTU!
<geser> A goOD upsTrEaM isn't auTomatically a gOoD packager (bUt Can Become ONE after tiMe)
* lupine_85 catches up on ubunTU-motu
<ajMitCh> morNing
<Sistpoty> hI ajMitch
ine_85 kicks nameless devs  in the hu rties  afew  e xtra  tim es for good me a sure s
<sistpoty> (apart fr om th at I re a ll y had  that i d ea w hil esh owe ri n g*g*)<La serJock > sistpoty : w el l, my positi o nis: We nee d a  freeze exce pti on not  a  mo t uship  ex cepti on
<La s erJock > there i sn othing wrong w i t hourcurrent process,a tl east where ber yl isco n ce r n ed<La serJock> t he  prop e r way t o  g e t ber y l into feisty  is to geta  fr eeze e xc ept i on
<si stpot y> Las erJock: wel l, I  particul arly d i dn't wa n t to an swer t o t hebery l  q ue sti on ,  bu t  r ath e r r elated t oth e gen eral p r o posa l
< Lase rJock > lupine_85 a ndPric e chi ld wo rking  wit himbra ndon a nd wh oe ver else wantsto h elp out s hou ld  be  s uffic i ent
<s ist pot y> yes<LaserJ o ck>  s i s t po ty: I don't partic ul a r ly  like it . Itsa nin t eresting  i dea  and I 'm gl ad y o uproposed  it. I ju st  thinkit 's ove rl y c omp licat e d
<L aserJo ck> andI hav e n't seen the n e ed for it
<si s tp o t y> hehe ...  well I'm a  lit t le b it p e da nti c  *g*<sist po t y> s/litlle bit// 
<La se rJock>  I me an, we're tal king about c r eating a  who l en ew class of up loade rs
<LaserJ o ck> shou ld up streamswith pack a g es in Ma inget  to  up l o ad  to Main?
<si s t poty >I guess  th e thing  Ilik e a bou trestricte d upload  r ig ht sisthatp pl. cange t a  s mel l int o  motu- world  and  w ou l d h opefull y  e n j oy i t<g eser > t omuchrule s  ca n lookfor the o uts i ders  t ocomplic ated / to bur ea ucratic an dsca re the m away
<si stpoty> LaserJock: that ' s an in ter ested  que stion
<si stp oty> i ntr e sting<Laser Jock>  I f a p erson p ac kag es  well enou g h  th at we  l et t hem upl oad to the archive s 
<L aserJock> and  th ey k n o weno u gh ofth e  po l i cies and proced ures to no tb re ak things< Las er Jock> t hen the y sho u ld be M OTU!
<ges er> a goo dupst r e amisn't auto maticall y a goodp ackag e r(butcan  becom eone  afte r time ) 
*lupin e_85 c at ches u p onub untu-mot u
<ajmitch> morning
<si stpoty > hiajm itch
ine_85 kicks_nameless devs_in the hurties a_few extra_times_for good_measures
<sistpoty>_(apart from that_I really had_that idea while showering_*g*)
<LaserJock> sistpoty: well,_my_position is: We need a freeze exception not a motuship exception
<LaserJock> there is nothing_wrong_with our_current_process,_at least where beryl is_concerned
<LaserJock> the proper way to_get beryl_into feisty is to get a freeze exception
<sistpoty>_LaserJock:_well, I particularly_didn't want to answer to the beryl question, but_rather related to the general proposal
<LaserJock>_lupine_85 and Pricechild_working_with_imbrandon and whoever else_wants to help out should be_sufficient
<sistpoty> yes
<LaserJock> sistpoty: I don't particularly_like it. Its an interesting idea and_I'm glad you proposed it. I_just think it's overly complicated
<LaserJock>_and I_haven't seen the need for_it
<sistpoty> hehe... well_I'm a_little bit pedantic_*g*
<sistpoty> s/litlle bit// 
<LaserJock> I mean,_we're talking about_creating a whole new class of_uploaders
<LaserJock>_should upstreams with_packages_in_Main get_to upload to_Main?
<sistpoty>_I guess_the_thing I like about restricted upload_rights_is that ppl. can get a smell_into motu-world and would_hopefully_enjoy it
<geser> to much_rules can look for the_outsiders to complicated / to bureaucratic_and scare_them away
<sistpoty>_LaserJock: that's an interested question
<sistpoty> intresting
<LaserJock> If a person packages well_enough that we let them upload_to the archives
<LaserJock> and_they know_enough_of the policies_and_procedures to_not break things
<LaserJock> then they should be_MOTU!
<geser> a_good upstream isn't automatically a good_packager (but can become_one_after time)
* lupine_85 catches up on_ubuntu-motu
<ajmitch> morning
<sistpoty> hi ajmitch