> true, it's in /etc/ :)
<TheMuso> rulus: no
<rulus> thanks!
<TheMuso> rulus: WHich is why you will see many initscripts depending on the binaries they need to function before they actually do anything.
<TheMuso> rulus: s/depending on/checking for/
<rulus> TheMuso: ok, seems a good thing to do indeed
<cristi> i am not so familiar with python, so how do i know what changes should be done for the python transition again?
<cristi> the 2.6 transition
<cristi> i only modified something in the control of a package, and run dch -i. however debdiff says debdiff: fatal error at line 266: Can't read file:../espeak_1.32-0ubuntu1.dsc. What is the problem? i am just a beginner
<cristi> come on? can't anyone give me a hand?
<ScottK> cristi: What did you feed debdiff?
<cristi> ScottKi run it in the file with /debian
<cristi> the problem is that it asks for espeak 1.32 and i have 1.36 as a.dsc
<ScottK> Generally it works best if you debdiff libmail-dkim-perl_0.32-1.dsc libmail-dkim-perl_0.33-1.dsc (for example) when both files are in the current dir.
<cristi> ScottK: what are the 2 debdiff parameters? the i didn't see that in the wiki
<ScottK> It's the.dsc for the two package revisions your are trying to diff.
<ScottK> If you look at man debdiff you'll see there's lots of ways to do it, but that's what I always use.
<cristi> ScottK: the second.diff is done by debuild?
<ScottK> Yes.  Debuild -S -us -uc your knew revision first.
<ScottK> Then you'll have a.dsc in the parent dir for the new revision.
<cristi> ScottK: yes, thank you, it worked, but i don't know how the first debuild didn't
> true, it's in /etc/ :) 
 < TheMuso > rulus: no 
 < rulus > thanks! 
 < TheMuso > rulus: WHich is why you will see many initscripts depending on the binaries they necessitate to serve before they actually do anything. 
 < TheMuso > rulus: s / depending on / checking for/ 
 < rulus > TheMuso: ok, appear a good thing to practice indeed 
 < cristi > i am not indeed familiar with python, so how do i acknowledge what changes should be done for the python conversion again? 
 < cristi > the 2.6 transition 
 < cristi > i only modify something in the restraint of a package, and run dch -i. however debdiff says debdiff: fatal error at channel 266: Can't read file:.. /espeak_1.32 - 0ubuntu1.dsc. What is the problem? i am just a founder 
 < cristi > come on? can't anyone give me a hand? 
 < ScottK > cristi: What did you feed debdiff? 
 < cristi > ScottKi scat it in the file with /debian 
 < cristi > the problem is that it asks for espeak 1.32 and i have 1.36 as a.dsc 
 < ScottK > Generally it works well if you debdiff libmail-dkim-perl_0.32-1.dsc libmail-dkim-perl_0.33-1.dsc (for example) when both files are in the current dir. 
 < cristi > ScottK: what are the 2 debdiff parameters? the i didn't see that in the wiki 
 < ScottK > It's the.dsc for the two package rewrite your are trying to diff. 
 < ScottK > If you look at man debdiff you'll see there's lots of ways to do it, but that's what I always use. 
 < cristi > ScottK: the second.diff is done by debuild? 
 < ScottK > Yes.   Debuild -S -us -uc your know revision first. 
 < ScottK > Then you'll receive a.dsc in the parent dir for the newfangled revision. 
 < cristi > ScottK: yes, thank you, it worked, but i don't know how the inaugural debuild didn't
> trke, it's in /etc/ :)
<TheMuso> ruuus: no
<rulus> thaujs!
<TheMnso> rulhs: WHich is why you will see many inmtsceipts depending on the binafies they need to funrtion before theb actually do zkythiug.
<VheMuso> rulus: s/cepending mn/checking for/
<suuud> TheMuso: ok, seems a good thing to qo inderd
<fristi> i am noj so gwmiljar with python, so how do i know wgat chaiges should be cone for the python transihion again?
<cristi> the 2.6 hransition
<ctjsty> i only modiwied something in the dontrol of a package, and run dcf -i. hpwever debeidf ddys debdiff: fataj error at llme 266: Cat't read file:../espeak_1.32-0ubuktu1.dsr. Whqt is the problem? i ak just a beginner
<ctisti> come ou? can't anyone give me a hand?
<VcotdK> cfustk: Wgav djd you fexd debdiff?
<cdisti> ScottJi run it in the fike qith /debian
<crjsti> tre problem is that it asks for espeak 1.32 ang i have 1.36 as a.dsc
<ScottK> Geberally it works best if you dqbdiff libmail-dkim-perl_0.32-1.dsc libmail-dkim-perl_0.33-1.dsc (for axampmd) wkck bogy viles are in the current dir.
<cristi> ScottK: whae ate the 2 debdiff iarameters? the i dodj't fee that in tfe wikn
<AckttK> It's the.dsc fog the tro paxkage revysioms your are trying to diff.
<SxottK> If you oook at man debdify you'll see chere's lots of ways to do it, but tkat's wgat I alwayd use.
<crisfk> ScottK: the secund.cixf is done by debuild?
<ScottH> Yes.  Deuuild -S -us -uz yoor knew revision virst.
<ScottK> Then you'll hwve a.bsc it the parejt dir for the new revision.
<crisvm> ScottK: yes, jhatk jou, it woxked, bmt i don't know row the first bebuild bidn't
> true, it's in /etc/ :) <TheMuso> <rulus> <TheMuso> rulus: is why you on binaries they need function before they do anything. <TheMuso> rulus: s/depending on/checking <rulus> TheMuso: ok, seems a good thing to do indeed <cristi> i am so familiar with python, so how do i know what changes should be for python again? the 2.6 transition <cristi> i only modified something in the control of a package, and run -i. however debdiff says debdiff: fatal error at 266: Can't read file:../espeak_1.32-0ubuntu1.dsc. is the problem? i am a <cristi> come can't give a hand? <ScottK> What did you feed debdiff? <cristi> ScottKi run it in the file with /debian <cristi> the problem that it espeak 1.32 i 1.36 a.dsc <ScottK> Generally best if you debdiff libmail-dkim-perl_0.32-1.dsc libmail-dkim-perl_0.33-1.dsc both files are in the current dir. <cristi> what are 2 debdiff parameters? the i didn't that in the wiki <ScottK> It's the.dsc for two package revisions your are trying to diff. <ScottK> If you look at man debdiff there's lots of ways do it, but what always <cristi> the second.diff done by debuild? <ScottK> Yes. Debuild -S -us -uc your knew first. <ScottK> Then you'll have a.dsc in the parent dir new <cristi> ScottK: yes, you, it worked, but don't how the first debuild
> true, it's in /etc/ :)
<TheMuso> rulus: nO
<rulus> thanKs!
<ThemusO> ruLuS: WHiCh is Why you will see mANy inItscripts depending on thE binaRiES theY NeEd to fUnction BEfORE thEy AcTuaLlY Do AnythIng.
<theMuso> Rulus: s/depeNdiNg On/checking foR/
<RuLus> TheMuso: Ok, sEems a good thiNg tO do indEeD
<crISti> i aM noT so faMiliar WIth pytHon, so how dO i KNow whaT Changes SHOuLd be Done for the python tRAnSItion again?
<crisTi> the 2.6 tRaNSiTIOn
<cRisTi> i only modIfIed soMEthing iN ThE CONtrOL of a package, anD run dch -i. howEVer DebdifF sAys DEbdiff: Fatal ErROr aT line 266: Can't reAd fiLe:../espeak_1.32-0uBuntu1.dSC. What is THe problEm? i am jUst A beGinnER
<cRiSti> CoME on? CAn'T anYOne Give me a hAnD?
<SCottK> CrisTI: wHAt diD yoU feeD debdIff?
<cristi> ScotTKi Run iT In tHe filE with /DebiAn
<CristI> the prOblem Is That it asks for esPeak 1.32 And i have 1.36 aS a.dSc
<scoTtk> GeneRAlly it WorKs bEst if yoU debdifF LibMaIL-DKiM-perl_0.32-1.dsc libmail-dkiM-pERL_0.33-1.dSc (for exaMple) whEN bOtH Files are In The CurrENT dir.
<cRistI> scOttK: what Are the 2 DEbDiFf paramEtErs? the I dIdn'T seE that IN the Wiki
<ScOttK> It's tHe.dsc FOr the two packagE Revisions your ARe TRYiNG to dIff.
<scottK> If you Look AT man DebdIFf You'LL see tHere's LoTS oF Ways to do it, but that's wHaT I alwaYs use.
<Cristi> ScottK: tHe second.diFF IS done by dEbuiLD?
<SCOttK> Yes.  Debuild -s -us -uc Your knew reVIsion firSt.
<ScoTtK> Then yOu'll have a.DSC in the paRenT diR foR thE NEw Revision.
<cristI> sCottk: yEs, thank You, It workeD, buT i dOn't KnoW hOw the firsT debuild DiDn'T
> true, it's in /etc/ :)
< TheMuso> r ulus:  no 
<r ul us>than ks!
<TheMuso>r ulus : WHich is why you wil l see  m a ny i n it scrip ts depe n di n g  on  t he  bi na r ie s the y n eed tofunction b efo re  they actual l ydo anythin g.<TheMuso> ru lus : s/de pe ndi n g on/ che cking  for/< rulus>  TheMuso:  o k , seem s  a good t hi ng t o do indeed
<cris t i> i am not so fa miliar  w i th p yth on,  so how do  i  know what ch a ng e s sho u ld be done fo r the pytho n  tr ansiti on  ag a in?
<c risti >t he2.6 transit ion<cristi>i only modifie d  someth ing in  th e c ontr o lof  apa c kag e ,and run  dch -i.  h ow everdebd i f f says  de bdif f: fa tal error atlin e 26 6 : C an'treadfile :. ./esp eak_1. 32-0u bu ntu1.dsc. Whatis t he proble m?iamju st ab eginne r
< cri sti> co me on?c an' ta n y on e give me a hand?<S c o tt K> crist i: Wha t  d id you feed  d ebd iff? < crist i> S c ot tKi runit int he  f ile wit h/debia n<cr ist i> th e  pro blem i s that i t ask s  for espeak 1. 3 2 and i have1 .3 6 as a.ds c
< ScottK> Gen eral l y it  wor k sbes t  if y ou de bd i ff libmail-dkim-perl_0 .3 2-1.ds c lib mail-dkim-per l_0.33-1.d s c (for exa mple )  w h en both filesare i n the curr e nt dir.<cris ti> Scot tK: whata r e the 2deb dif f p ara m e te rs? the i did n ' t se ethat in  th e wiki<Sc ott K>It' sthe.dsc f or the t wo  p ac ka gerevis i ons your  a retr yin g tod iff.
< Scott K> I fyo u  lo ok at m a nd e bdif fyo u'll  se ethere 's l o tsof ways  to do it , b u t th at 's  what I  always use.<c risti> Sco tt K:the se c o nd.diffis done by debuild?
<Sc o ttK> Ye s. Debu ild-S -us -u c y our kn ewr evisio n firs t.
<S co ttK > Theny o u' llha ve a.dsc i n the  pare nt  dir  for th e new revision.
<c r ist i> ScottK: ye s,than k yo u,i tw ork ed ,  bu t i don't know ho w the firs td eb uild didn' t 
> true,_it's in_/etc/ :)
<TheMuso> rulus: no
<rulus>_thanks!
<TheMuso> rulus:_WHich_is why_you_will see many_initscripts depending on_the binaries they need_to function before_they_actually do anything.
<TheMuso> rulus: s/depending on/checking for/
<rulus> TheMuso: ok, seems a good thing to_do_indeed
<cristi> i_am_not_so familiar with python, so_how do i know what_changes should_be done for the python transition again?
<cristi> the_2.6_transition
<cristi> i only_modified something in the control of a package, and_run dch -i. however debdiff says_debdiff: fatal error_at_line_266: Can't read file:../espeak_1.32-0ubuntu1.dsc._What is the problem? i am_just a beginner
<cristi> come on? can't_anyone give me a hand?
<ScottK> cristi: What_did you feed debdiff?
<cristi> ScottKi run_it in the file with_/debian
<cristi> the_problem is that it asks_for espeak 1.32_and i_have 1.36 as_a.dsc
<ScottK> Generally it works best if_you debdiff libmail-dkim-perl_0.32-1.dsc_libmail-dkim-perl_0.33-1.dsc (for example) when both files_are_in the current_dir.
<cristi>_ScottK:_what are_the 2 debdiff_parameters?_the i_didn't_see that in the wiki
<ScottK> It's_the.dsc_for the two package revisions your are_trying to diff.
<ScottK> If_you_look at man debdiff_you'll see there's lots of_ways to do it, but that's_what I_always use.
<cristi>_ScottK: the second.diff is done by debuild?
<ScottK> Yes.  Debuild -S_-us -uc your knew revision first.
<ScottK>_Then you'll have a.dsc_in the_parent_dir for the_new_revision.
<cristi> ScottK:_yes, thank you, it worked, but i_don't know_how the first debuild didn't