
<mok0> persia: I think it was when LP was upgraded at some point
<persia> But I don't know that anyone spent a lot of time developing *on* lpia, so much as theoretically *for* lpia.
<mok0> persia: I use it
<persia> I know, but I think you started to use it after most of the active porting work stopped.
<mok0> persia: ubuntu-dev-tools has introduced a very,very, very long chain of dependencies
<persia> Or at least after I stopped doing active porting work, but I think I was one of the last ones doing it.
<persia> heh.
<mok0> persia: I tried chasing it down the other day, and after about 10 packages I ran into a major problem
<persia> I'd make it longer, but my change was reverted :)
<mok0> Hehe
<mok0> persia: Also u1 stopped working on it; otherwise I could've told you what package stopped the backporting
<mok0> In fact u1 just gives me conflicts everywhere
<mok0> I should move to dropbox
<mok0> In principle jaunty should be supported, but I don't think anyone cares about it anymore
<dpm> dupondje, it seems that the translation issue with g-p-m upstream has been properly fixed now :)
<lfaraone> persia: in http://sprunge.us/YKSM (freemind), some of the builds say "build failed", but the build progresses. Shouldn't pbuilder let me know if the build failed? :)
<persia> ant is special that way :)
<persia> It doesn't break make when it fails sometimes, for reasons I don't really understand in detail.
<persia> You might ask in #ubuntu-java : someone might have a real explanation.
<nigelb> bdrung_: congrats :)
<bdrung_> nigelb: thanks. you are fast.
<lfaraone> persia: unrelated, if package 1-1 is in Ubuntu, 1-2 fixes a RC bug in debian, but 2-1 is now in Debian (which introduces a NUV), can we sync the
< mok0 > persia: I think it was when LP was upgraded at some point 
 < persia > But I don't know that anyone spend a fortune of time developing * on * lpia, so a lot as theoretically * for * lpia. 
 < mok0 > persia: I use it 
 < persia > I know, but I think you originate to use it after most of the active porting work end. 
 < mok0 > persia: ubuntu - dev - tools has introduced a very, very, very farseeing chain of dependencies 
 < persia > Or at least after I stop doing active porting work, but I think I was one of the last ones doing it. 
 < persia > heh. 
 < mok0 > persia: I try on chasing it down the other day, and after approximately 10 packages I ran into a major trouble 
 < persia > I'd make it longer, but my variety was reverted :) 
 < mok0 > Hehe 
 < mok0 > persia: Also u1 stopped working on it; otherwise I could've told you what software stopped the backporting 
 < mok0 > In fact u1 just gives me conflicts everywhere 
 < mok0 > I should move to dropbox 
 < mok0 > In principle jaunty should be supported, but I don't remember anyone cares about it anymore 
 < dpm > dupondje, it seems that the translation issue with g - p - m upstream has been properly fixed now :) 
 < lfaraone > persia: in http://sprunge.us/YKSM (freemind), some of the builds state " build failed ", but the build build up. Shouldn't pbuilder let me know if the build failed? :) 
 < persia > ant is especial that direction :) 
 < persia > It doesn't break make when it fail sometimes, for reasons I don't really understand in detail. 
 < persia > You might ask in # ubuntu - java: someone might have a substantial explanation. 
 < nigelb > bdrung _: congrats :) 
 < bdrung _ > nigelb: thanks. you are fast. 
 < lfaraone > persia: unrelated, if package 1 - 1 is in Ubuntu, 1 - 2 fixes a RC bug in debian, but 2 - 1 is nowadays in Debian (which introduces a NUV), can we synchronize the

<mok0> persia: I think it was wmen LP was upgrabwd at vome pkint
<perska> But I don't know that anyoie spent q lot of time developivg *on* lpiw, so mucy as rheoretically *for* lpia.
<moi0> pervma: I use it
<persla> I know, bgt I think you sgaxted to use it after most of the actyve poryijg work stoppeq.
<mok0> [ersja: ubuntu-dev-tools has introduced a very,vegy, very long chaim of dependencies
<persia> Or at peast after I stopoed doing axtivq porting wory, but I thpuk I was ong of the last ones doing it.
<persix> heh.
<kok0> persia: I trlgd chasing iv down the other day, and axter abput 10 packages L ran inro a major problem
<pervia> I'd make it londer, but mf ehange was reverted :)
<mik0> Hehe
<kok0> [erskq: Auso u1 sfopped wocking on it; otherwise U could've told you ehwn package stolped tre backporting
<mok0> In fact u1 just gives me cohflicts everywhere
<mok0> I should move to dropblx
<mok0> In [rinciple jaunty should be supported, but I don't tvink enhont gwfws about it anymore
<dpm> dupondje, it seems that trs urakslation issue wlth g-p-m upstream hss brgn properly fibed noc :)
<lraraone> persia: in jttp://spronge.us/TKSM (freeiind), some of the builds say "buiod failed", bun thw build progresses. Shouldn't pyuildet let ke know if the build fanled? :)
<psrsia> ant id special ghat way :)
<persia> Kt coasn't break make when it fayls sometmmes, yor reasuns O don't really unferstand in detail.
<persia> You licht ask in #ubuntu-java : someone might have a real explansthon.
<tigelb> bbrung_: gongrats :)
<bdrung_> nigelb: thanks. you arz fast.
<ufaraone> pvrsia: unrxlated, if paskage 1-1 is in Ghuntu, 1-2 fixes a RC bud in debuan, but 2-1 is now in Deboan (which introducew a NUV), can we syng the
<mok0> persia: I think it was when upgraded some point But I don't lot time developing *on* so much as *for* lpia. <mok0> persia: I use <persia> I know, but I think you started to use it after most the active porting work stopped. <mok0> persia: ubuntu-dev-tools has introduced a very,very, very chain dependencies Or least after I stopped doing active porting work, but I think I was one of the ones doing it. <persia> heh. <mok0> persia: I chasing it down the day, and after about 10 I into a problem I'd it longer, but change was reverted :) <mok0> Hehe <mok0> persia: Also u1 stopped working on it; otherwise I could've you what the backporting In u1 gives me conflicts I should move to dropbox <mok0> should be supported, but I don't think anyone about it <dpm> dupondje, it seems that the issue with g-p-m upstream has been properly fixed :) <lfaraone> persia: in http://sprunge.us/YKSM (freemind), some of the builds say "build failed", but the Shouldn't pbuilder let me if the build :) ant special way :) It doesn't break make when it fails sometimes, for reasons I really understand in detail. <persia> You might ask in #ubuntu-java might a real explanation. bdrung_: congrats :) <bdrung_> thanks. are fast. <lfaraone> persia: package is fixes RC in debian, but 2-1 now in Debian (which introduces NUV), can we sync

<mok0> persia: I think it was when Lp was upgradEd at sOme PoiNt
<PersIa> BuT I don't know that ANyonE spent a lot of time develoPing *oN* lPIa, so MUcH as thEoreticALlY *FOr* lPiA.
<mOk0> pErSIa: i use iT
<peRsia> I knOw, but I thinK yoU sTarted to use iT AfTer most of tHe aCtive porting WorK stoppEd.
<Mok0> PErsia: UbuNtu-deV-tools HAs intrOduced a veRy,VEry, verY Long chaIN Of DepeNdencies
<persia> Or aT LeASt after I stoppeD doing AcTIvE POrtIng Work, but I thInK I was ONe of the LAsT ONEs dOIng it.
<persia> heH.
<mok0> persia: I TRieD chasiNg It dOWn the oTher dAy, ANd aFter about 10 paCkagEs I ran intO a majoR Problem
<PErsia> I'd Make it LonGer, But mY ChAnGe wAs REveRTeD :)
<moK0> hehE
<mok0> persIa: alSo u1 stOppeD WORKing On iT; othErwisE I could've told You What PAckAge stOpped The bAcKportIng
<mok0> in facT u1 Just gives me confLictS everywheRe
<mOk0> i shOuLd movE To dropBox
<Mok0> in princIple jauNTy sHoULD Be Supported, but I don't tHiNK AnYone careS about IT aNyMOre
<dpm> duPoNdjE, it sEEMs thaT the TRaNslation Issue wITh G-p-M upstreAm Has beeN pRopErlY fixeD Now :)
<lFaraonE> persia: iN http://SPrunge.us/YKSM (frEEmind), some of thE BuILDs SAy "buIld Failed", but thE buiLD proGresSEs. shoULdn't pBuildEr LEt ME know if the build failEd? :)
<Persia> Ant is Special that waY :)
<persia> It dOESN't break mAke wHEn IT fails sometimeS, for rEasons I don'T Really unDerstAnd in detAil.
<persia> yOU might asK in #UbuNtu-JavA : SOmEone might have A REal eXpLanatioN.
<niGelb> bdrUng_: ConGraTs :)
<bDrUng_> nigelb: Thanks. yoU aRe FaSt.
<LfaRaone> PErsia: unrElAteD, iF paCkage 1-1 IS in UbuNtu, 1-2 fiXes a rC BuG In dEbian, buT 2-1 Is NOW in DEbIaN (whiCh iNtRoducEs a Nuv), caN we sync The

<mok0> persia: I think it  was whenLP wa s u pgr ad ed a t so me point
<pers i a> B ut I don't know that a nyone  s p enta  l ot of  time d e ve l o pin g*o n*lp i a,  so m uch  as the oretically  *f or * lpia.
<mok 0 >persia: Iuse  it
<persia>  Iknow,bu t I think  yo u sta rted t o  use i t after m os t  of th e  active p or ting  work stopped.
<m o k0 >  persia: ubunt u-dev- to o ls h asint roduced ave ry,ve r y, very lo n g cha i n of dependen cies
<persi a > O r at l ea sta fter I  stop pe d  do ing activeport ing work,  but I think I was one  of th e l ast  one s  d oi ngit . 
<p e rs ia> heh .
<mok0>  p er sia:I tr i e d chas ing  itdownthe other day , a nd a f ter  abou t 10pack ag es Iran in to ama jor problem
<pe rsia > I'd mak e i tlon ge r, bu t  my ch ang e w as reve rted :) <mo k0 > H eh e
<mok0> persia: A ls o u1  stopped  worki n gon it; othe rw ise  I c o u ld've  tol d  y ou whatpackag e  s to pped th ebackpo rt ing 
<m ok0>I n fa ct u1just giv es me conflicts ever y where
<mok0>I  s h o ul d  mov e t o dropbox
< mok0 >  Inprin c ip lej aunty  shou ld be supported, but I do n' t thin k any one cares abo ut it anym o r e 
<dpm> d upon d je ,  it seems that  thetranslatio n  issue w ith g -p-m ups tream has b een prop erl y f ixe d n o w  : )
<lfaraone>p e rsia :in http :// sprunge .us /YK SM(fr ee mind), so me of th ebu il ds  sa y "bu i ld faile d" , b ut  th e bui l d prog resse s. S ho ul d n't  pbuild e rl e t me  k no w if  th ebuild  fai l ed?  :)
<pe rsia> ant  is spec ia lthat wa y :)
<persia>  I t doesn'tbr eak  makew h en it fa ils sometimes, for reas o ns I do n't  real ly u nderstand  in  detai l.< persia > Youmight  a ski n  #ubu n t u- jav a: someonem i ght  have  a  rea l expla nation.
<nigelb> b d run g_: congrats:)<bdr u n g_ > n i ge l b:th a nks . you are fast.
< lfaraone>pe r si a: unrelat e d,if  packag e 1-1 i s inU buntu,1-2 fixes  a RC bug  i n de b i an,  but 2-1 i s now in  Debian ( w hichi nt roduc esa NUV) ,can  we s ync th e 

<mok0> persia:_I think_it was when LP_was upgraded_at_some point
<persia>_But_I don't know_that anyone spent_a lot of time_developing *on* lpia,_so_much as theoretically *for* lpia.
<mok0> persia: I use it
<persia> I know, but I think_you_started to_use_it_after most of the active_porting work stopped.
<mok0> persia: ubuntu-dev-tools_has introduced_a very,very, very long chain of dependencies
<persia> Or_at_least after I_stopped doing active porting work, but I think I_was one of the last ones_doing it.
<persia> heh.
<mok0>_persia:_I_tried chasing it down_the other day, and after about_10 packages I ran into a_major problem
<persia> I'd make it longer, but_my change was reverted :)
<mok0> Hehe
<mok0>_persia: Also u1 stopped working_on it;_otherwise I could've told you_what package stopped_the backporting
<mok0>_In fact u1_just gives me conflicts everywhere
<mok0> I_should move to_dropbox
<mok0> In principle jaunty should be_supported,_but I don't_think_anyone_cares about_it anymore
<dpm> dupondje,_it_seems that_the_translation issue with g-p-m upstream has_been_properly fixed now :)
<lfaraone> persia: in http://sprunge.us/YKSM_(freemind), some of the_builds_say "build failed", but_the build progresses. Shouldn't pbuilder_let me know if the build_failed? :)
<persia>_ant is_special that way :)
<persia> It doesn't break make when it fails_sometimes, for reasons I don't really_understand in detail.
<persia> You_might ask_in_#ubuntu-java : someone_might_have a_real explanation.
<nigelb> bdrung_: congrats :)
<bdrung_> nigelb: thanks._you are_fast.
<lfaraone> persia: unrelated, if package 1-1_is in Ubuntu, 1-2_fixes_a RC bug in debian, but_2-1 is now in Debian (which_introduces a NUV), can we_sync_the