ren> Chex: Hi Stefan
<dejuren> what's new?
<Chex> dejuren: just settling in at the new job :) 
<dejuren> Chex: nothing exciting on my site as well.. just got some oneiric strange behaviour, like the old days hehe
<Chex> dejuren: yeah same for me, fixes some things, breaks others
<MagicFab> dejuren, hi
<dejuren> MagicFab: hi, what's up
<MagicFab> learning about OpenVPN ALS (aka SSL VPN)
<dejuren> good... I'm digging some simple stuff like scp host1 host2... which turns out to be realy tricky
<MagicFab> just copying stuff around?
<dejuren> yep... getting involved the ssh-agent and key forwarding
<dejuren> and the sh...t is scp adds automatically -a to _disable_ key FW
<dejuren> and the copy fails....
<Chex> dejuren: funny I am fighting with ssh host keys with ssh remote acces, as well
<Chex> one host is working, another is not.. I setup the public key properly on the remote site, but no luck.. 
 * dejuren thinks to anonce ssh week on #ubuntu-qc
<dejuren> Chex: ssh -v doesn't help?
<MagicFab> get a support contract :)
<Chex> ssh -vvv, and nope
<dejuren> :-?
<Chex> MagicFab: heh, these are centos systems :P
<dejuren> Chex: maybe you should try with a new key (temporary one)
<Chex> dejuren: cant really do that, stuff is in production on that server
<Chex> I am going to punt to the admin who is training me tomorrow
<dejuren> but you should be able to try with test account and ssh key i guess... but you're right, depends on how strictly is that box monitored and what policy permitts to do there
<MagicFab> Chex, if you can copy the private key + config to a sandboxed local box (test?), try to reproduce/debug there
<MagicFab> box/VM
<Chex> yeah
<Chex
ren > Chex: Hi Stefan 
 < dejuren > what's new? 
 < Chex > dejuren: just settling in at the new caper :) 
 < dejuren > Chex: nothing exciting on my web site as well.. just get some oneiric foreign behaviour, like the old days hehe 
 < Chex > dejuren: yeah like for me, fix some things, break others 
 < MagicFab > dejuren, hi 
 < dejuren > MagicFab: hi, what's up 
 < MagicFab > learning about OpenVPN ALS (aka SSL VPN) 
 < dejuren > good... I'm digging some dim-witted stuff like scp host1 host2... which turns out to be realy tricky 
 < MagicFab > precisely replicate stuff around? 
 < dejuren > yep... getting involved the ssh - agent and key forwarding 
 < dejuren > and the sh... t is scp add automatically -a to _ disable _ key FW 
 < dejuren > and the copy fail.... 
 < Chex > dejuren: funny I am fighting with ssh host keys with ssh distant acces, as well 
 < Chex > one host is working, another is not.. I setup the public key properly on the outside site, but no luck.. 
  * dejuren thinks to anonce ssh week on # ubuntu - qc 
 < dejuren > Chex: ssh -v doesn't help? 
 < MagicFab > beget a support contract :) 
 < Chex > ssh -vvv, and nope 
 < dejuren >: -? 
 < Chex > MagicFab: heh, these are centos systems :P 
 < dejuren > Chex: maybe you should try with a new key (temporary one) 
 < Chex > dejuren: ca nt really do that, stuff is in product on that server 
 < Chex > I am going to bet on to the admin who is trail me tomorrow 
 < dejuren > but you should be able to sample with test account and ssh key i guess... but you're right, depends on how strictly is that corner monitored and what policy permitts to do there 
 < MagicFab > Chex, if you can copy the private key + config to a sandboxed local box (test ?), try to reproduce / debug there 
 < MagicFab > box / VM 
 < Chex > yeah 
 < Chex
ren> Chex: Hi Stefan
<dejuren> wmat's new?
<Chex> dejorwn: jusv settljng in ag the new job :) 
<dejuren> Chex: iothung ezciting on my site as dell.. just got somw ontiric strange behebiour, llhe tgc old vays hehe
<Chex> dgjuren: yeah vame for me, fifer dome things, breaks others
<MagicFab> dqjuren, ni
<fejuren> MagicFwb: hp, rhat'a up
<MagicFab> learning about OpenVPH ALS (ana SSL VPN)
<dejiren> good... I'm digging some dimppe stuff like scp jost1 host2... wyich rurns out to be realy urncky
<MagicFag> just copying stuff around?
<dejufen> yzp... getting uncolggd the ssh-agxnt anq key forwarding
<dejusen> and the sh...t is sci addv aytomatically -a to _diseble_ key FW
<dejuren> agd the co[y fails....
<Chex> dejureb: dunny I ak fieytivg sivh ash hodt ieys with ash remote qcces, as well
<Chex> ome yost is workihg, anoehqr is not.. I setup the public key properny kn the remote site, but bo luck.. 
 * dejuren thijks to anjnce ssh week on #ubuntu-qc
<dejuren> Chex: ssh -v doesn'd hel'?
<MxgieNwc> gft a support contract :)
<Chex> ssh -vvv, and nope
<dethrtn> :-?
<Bhex> MagicFab: heh, these are vejtpf systems :P
<deguren> Eges: maybe you should try wijh a nww key (teiporsry one)
<Chex> dejuren: cant reqlly do that, wtuff is in produccion on that serfer
<Chrx> I am going to punt tu ths admin who is trainjvg me tomorrow
<degurvn> bgt you should be able to twy with txst aecount avd sxh key i guess... bkt yom'se right, depends oj how sdrictly is that box monitored and what policy permitts jo go nhere
<MagieFab> Cmex, if you can sopy the privaje key + cjnfig to a sandgoxed lmcal box (teft?), try to repslduce/debug tiere
<MagicSab> vox/VN
<Chex> ydxh
<Chex
ren> Chex: Hi Stefan <dejuren> what's new? just in at new job :) my as well.. just some oneiric strange like the old days hehe <Chex> yeah same for me, fixes some things, breaks others <MagicFab> dejuren, hi <dejuren> hi, what's up <MagicFab> learning about OpenVPN ALS (aka SSL VPN) <dejuren> good... digging simple like host1 host2... which turns out to be realy tricky <MagicFab> just copying stuff around? <dejuren> yep... involved the ssh-agent and key forwarding <dejuren> and sh...t is scp adds -a to _disable_ key FW and copy fails.... dejuren: I fighting with ssh keys with ssh remote acces, as well <Chex> one host is working, another is not.. I setup public key the remote but luck.. dejuren thinks to week on #ubuntu-qc <dejuren> Chex: ssh <MagicFab> get a support contract :) <Chex> ssh and nope :-? <Chex> MagicFab: heh, these are systems :P <dejuren> Chex: maybe you should try a new key (temporary one) <Chex> dejuren: cant really do that, stuff is in production server <Chex> I am to punt to admin is me <dejuren> but should be able to try with test account and ssh key guess... but you're right, depends on how strictly is that and policy permitts to there <MagicFab> Chex, if can the private key + a local to there box/VM <Chex> yeah <Chex
ren> Chex: Hi Stefan
<dejuren> whaT's new?
<Chex> dEjureN: juSt sEtTlinG in aT the new job :) 
<dejuREn> ChEx: nothing exciting on my sIte as WeLL.. jusT GoT some Oneiric STrANGe bEhAvIouR, lIKe The olD daYs hehe
<CHex> dejuren: YeaH sAme for me, fixeS SoMe things, brEakS others
<Magicfab> DejureN, hI
<deJUren> MAgiCFab: hI, what's UP
<Magicfab> learniNg ABout OpENVPN ALS (AKA SsL VPn)
<dejuren> good... I'm digGInG Some simple stufF like sCp HOsT1 HOst2... WhiCh turns out To Be reaLY tricky
<mAgICfAb> jUSt copying stufF around?
<dejuREn> yEp... gettInG inVOlved tHe ssh-AgENt aNd key forwarDing
<Dejuren> anD the sh...T Is scp adDS automaTicallY -a tO _diSablE_ KeY Fw
<deJuREn> aND tHe cOPy fAils....
<Chex> DeJuRen: fuNny I AM FIGhtiNg wIth sSh hosT keys with ssh rEmoTe acCEs, aS well
<chex> oNe hoSt Is worKing, anOther Is Not.. I setup the pubLic kEy properlY on ThE reMoTe sitE, But no lUck.. 
 * DejUren thiNks to anONce SsH WEEk On #ubuntu-qc
<dejuren> CHeX: SSh -V doesn't hElp?
<MagICFAb> GEt a suppoRt ConTracT :)
<cHex> ssH -vvv, ANd Nope
<dejuRen> :-?
<CheX> maGiCFab: heh, ThEse are CeNtoS syStems :p
<DejuRen> CheX: maybe yoU shouLD try with a new keY (Temporary one)
<CHEx> DEJuREn: caNt rEally do that, StufF Is in ProdUCtIon ON that ServeR
<CHEx> i Am going to punt to the aDmIn who iS traiNing me tomorroW
<dejuren> buT YOU should bE ablE To TRy with test accoUnt anD ssh key i guESs... but you'Re rigHt, dependS on how strICTly is thaT boX moNitOreD ANd What policy perMITts tO dO there
<MAgiCFab> CheX, if You Can CopY tHe private Key + confiG tO a SaNdBoxEd locAL box (test?), TrY to ReProDuce/dEBug theRe
<MagIcFaB> bOx/vm
<ChEx> yeah
<CHEx
ren> Chex: Hi Stefan
<deju ren> what' s new ?
< Che x>  dej uren : just settlin g  inat the new job :) 
<de juren >C hex: no thing  exciti n go n  my  s it e a sw el l.. j ust  got so me oneiric  st ra nge behaviou r ,like the o lddays hehe
<C hex > deju re n:y eah s ame  forme, fi x es som e things,  b r eaks o t hers
<M a g ic Fab>  dejuren, hi
<dej u re n > MagicFab: hi , what 's up < Mag icF ab> learni ng  abou t  OpenVP N  A L S (ak a  SSL VPN)
<de juren> good . ..I'm di gg ing some s imple  s t uff  like scp h ost1  host2...  which turns o u t to be  realy  tr ick y
<M a gi cF ab>  j u stc op yin g  st uff arou nd ?<deju ren> y e p ...get ting  invo lved the ssh- age nt a n d k ey fo rward ing<d ejure n> and  thesh ...t is scp add s au tomatical ly-a  to  _ disab l e_ key  FW 
<d ejuren>  and th e  co py f a il s....
<Chex> dejur en : fu nny I am  fight i ng  w i th ssh h os t k eysw i th ss h re m ot e acces,  as we l l<C hex> on ehost i swor kin g, an o ther  is no t.. I se tup t h e public key p r operly on the re m o te site , b ut no luck. . 
*  dej uren th ink s  to a nonce  s s hw eek on #ubuntu-qc
< de juren>  Chex : ssh -v does n't help?< M a gicFab>geta  s u pport contract  :)
< Chex> ssh- vvv, and  nope 
<dejure n> :-?
<C h e x> Magic Fab : h eh,  th e s eare centos sy s t ems:P 
<dejur en>  Chex:may beyou  sh ou ld try wi th a new  k ey  ( te mpo raryo ne)
<Che x>  de ju ren : can t  reall y dothat ,st u ffis in p r od u c tion  o nthat  se rv er
<C hex> I a m going  to punttot he a dm in  who is  training meto morrow
<de ju ren > buty o u should  be able to try with te s t accou ntand s sh k ey i gues s.. . butyou ' re rig ht, de pends  o n h o w  stri c t ly  is  t hat box mo n i tor ed an dwhat  policy  permitts to do th e re<MagicFab> Ch ex,  ify o ucan co p y t he pri v a te key + config  to a sand bo x ed  local box (te st ?), try  to rep roduc e /debugthere
<Ma gicFab> b ox /VM< C hex > yeah
<Ch ex
ren> Chex:_Hi Stefan
<dejuren>_what's new?
<Chex> dejuren: just_settling in_at_the new_job_:) 
<dejuren> Chex:_nothing exciting on_my site as well.._just got some_oneiric_strange behaviour, like the old days hehe
<Chex> dejuren: yeah same for me, fixes some_things,_breaks others
<MagicFab>_dejuren,_hi
<dejuren>_MagicFab: hi, what's up
<MagicFab> learning_about OpenVPN ALS (aka SSL_VPN)
<dejuren> good..._I'm digging some simple stuff like scp host1_host2..._which turns out_to be realy tricky
<MagicFab> just copying stuff around?
<dejuren> yep..._getting involved the ssh-agent and key_forwarding
<dejuren> and the_sh...t_is_scp adds automatically -a_to _disable_ key FW
<dejuren> and the_copy fails....
<Chex> dejuren: funny I am_fighting with ssh host keys with ssh_remote acces, as well
<Chex> one host_is working, another is not.._I setup_the public key properly on_the remote site,_but no_luck.. 
 *_dejuren thinks to anonce ssh week_on #ubuntu-qc
<dejuren> Chex:_ssh -v doesn't help?
<MagicFab> get a_support_contract :)
<Chex> ssh_-vvv,_and_nope
<dejuren> :-?
<Chex>_MagicFab: heh, these_are_centos systems_:P
<dejuren>_Chex: maybe you should try with_a_new key (temporary one)
<Chex> dejuren: cant really_do that, stuff is_in_production on that server
<Chex>_I am going to punt_to the admin who is training_me tomorrow
<dejuren>_but you_should be able to try with test account and ssh key_i guess... but you're right, depends_on how strictly is_that box_monitored_and what policy_permitts_to do_there
<MagicFab> Chex, if you can copy the_private key_+ config to a sandboxed local_box (test?), try to_reproduce/debug_there
<MagicFab> box/VM
<Chex> yeah
<Chex