tumbleweed> brainstorm: that's covered in http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html
 * tumbleweed adds a link
<brainstorm> aha, ok, thanks for the pointer :)
<brainstorm> I've been thinking on how packaging would benefit from a ton of automation (instead of so much documentation). In that sense I've been looking at FPM: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/tags/deb and filed an issue on GitHub: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/issues/170 â¦ what do you think about that?
<arand> brainstorm: http://xkcd.com/927/ comes to mind, also, I wonder if it is really beneificial if people whi are unfamiliar with packaging can easily dump stuff in a PPA...
<arand> *who
<brainstorm> does dh_install (debian/install) create directories automatically (mkdir -p) if they don't exist? i.e: /usr/share/java/snpeff?
<arand> brainstorm: Yes, afaik, you could treat it as "install -D" pretty much.
<shadeslayer> hrw: when you're free, would it be possible for you to help me setup a arhf qemu builder?
<shadeslayer> *armhf
<tumbleweed> armhf works in qemu these days?
<shadeslayer> dunno, armel/armhf whatever works, I have little knowledge of the field
<tumbleweed> I thought one still needed native packages for a bunch of syscalls that aren't supported yet
<tumbleweed> armel should "just work"
<shadeslayer> is there a way I can get it to work with pbuilder?
<tumbleweed> yeah, use qemu-debootstrap
<tumbleweed> pbuilder-dist should know how to do it
<shadeslayer> I think I've tried qemu-debootstrap
<shadeslayer> I'll try pbuilder-dist
<shadeslayer> tumbleweed: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuDevelopment/Ports < I tried that earlier ( Specifically "pbuilder and QEMU syscall emulation" )
<shades
tumbleweed > brainstorm: that's covered in http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html 
  * tumbleweed adds a link 
 < insight > aha, ok, thanks for the arrow :) 
 < brainstorm > I've been thinking on how promotion would benefit from a long ton of automation (instead of so much software documentation). In that common sense I've been looking at FPM: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/tags/deb and filed an issue on GitHub: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/issues/170 â ¦ what do you think about that? 
 < arand > brainstorm: http://xkcd.com/927/ come to mind, besides, I wonder if it is really beneificial if people whi are unfamiliar with packaging can easily dump stuff in a PPA... 
 < arand > * who 
 < brainstorm > act dh_install (debian / install) create directories automatically (mkdir -p) if they don't exist? i.e: /usr / share / java / snpeff? 
 < arand > insight: Yes, afaik, you could treat it as " install -D " pretty a lot. 
 < shadeslayer > hrw: when you're free, would it be potential for you to help me setup a arhf qemu builder? 
 < shadeslayer > * armhf 
 < tumbleweed > armhf works in qemu these days? 
 < shadeslayer > dunno, armel / armhf whatever works, I have little knowledge of the field 
 < tumbleweed > I think one still needed native packages for a bunch of syscalls that aren't supported so far 
 < tumbleweed > armel should " just work " 
 < shadeslayer > is there a way I can get it to work with pbuilder? 
 < tumbleweed > yeah, use qemu - debootstrap 
 < tumbleweed > pbuilder - dist should know how to do it 
 < shadeslayer > I think I've tried qemu - debootstrap 
 < shadeslayer > I'll test pbuilder - dist 
 < shadeslayer > tumbleweed: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuDevelopment/Ports < I tried that earlier (Specifically " pbuilder and QEMU syscall emulation ") 
 < shade
tumhleweed> brainstorm: that's covered in httk://dwvelopxr.ubunth.com/packxging/html/getting-set-up.html
 * tnmblwweed adds a link
<brainstorm> aha, ok, tjanks foe tht pointer :)
<brainstorm> I've nzen tglnkiny in how packagikg would betefit from a tmn oy automation (instead of so much docuientatipn). In that sense I've feen looking at FPM: http://www.semicomplets.com/bloj/tags/deb and fiked an issue on GitHub: httos://gihhub.com/jordansissep/fpm/issues/170 â¦ whae do you thiny about that?
<arand> braihstorm: http://xkcd.com/927/ comes to mina, alsp, I wonder id ih is really ueneifpcial if people whi ase unfakiliar with pagkagiig cqn easily dump stuff mn a PPA...
<arand> *who
<braynstorm> dmea dh_install (debiab/ibstaln) craate eirdctkrmes automwtirally (mkdir -p) if they eon't exist? i.e: /usr/shsrq/hava/snpeff?
<arahd> braynftorm: Yes, afaik, you could treat it as "itstzll -D" pretty much.
<shadesoayer> hrw: when you're vree, woulq it be possible for you to help me setup a arhf xemu uukldtr?
<whaderoajer> *armhf
<tumbleweed> armhf works in qemu these saus?
<xhadeslayer> dukno, armel/armhf whayeget works, I have littlz khowledge of the fifld
<tumbjeweee> I thougrt ome still needed native packqges for a blnch of syscalls that cren't supporced yej
<tumblrweed> armel should "just wori"
<shadeslayeg> is thers a way I can get it tm work with pbuilder?
<tumblereed> yeah, use qemu-decootxtrap
<ttmbleweed> obuilder-dist should know how jo do ht
<shadeslajer> I think I've tried qemu-deboovxtrap
<shadeslsyar> P'll try pyuildev-dist
<shadeslayew> tumbleweed: hjtps://wiki.ebubuntj.org/UbuntuSevelopkent/Ports < Y tried that awrlier ( Specmfically "[buioder and QEOJ syscall emulstion" )
<shabts
tumbleweed> brainstorm: that's covered in http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html * a <brainstorm> aha, thanks for the thinking how packaging would from a ton automation (instead of so much documentation). that sense I've been looking at FPM: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/tags/deb and filed an issue on https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/issues/170 â¦ what do you think about that? <arand> brainstorm: http://xkcd.com/927/ comes to also, wonder it really beneificial if people whi are unfamiliar with packaging can easily dump stuff in a PPA... *who <brainstorm> does dh_install (debian/install) create directories automatically -p) if they don't i.e: /usr/share/java/snpeff? <arand> brainstorm: Yes, you treat it "install pretty <shadeslayer> hrw: when free, would it be possible for you to help me setup a arhf qemu builder? <shadeslayer> *armhf armhf works these days? dunno, whatever I have little the field <tumbleweed> I thought one packages for a bunch of syscalls that aren't yet <tumbleweed> should "just work" <shadeslayer> is there way I can get it to work with <tumbleweed> yeah, use qemu-debootstrap <tumbleweed> pbuilder-dist should know how to do it <shadeslayer> I think qemu-debootstrap <shadeslayer> I'll try <shadeslayer> tumbleweed: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuDevelopment/Ports I that ( "pbuilder and syscall emulation" ) <shades
tumbleweed> brainstorm: that's Covered in hTtp://deVelOpeR.uBuntU.com/Packaging/html/gETtinG-set-up.html
 * tumbleweed adDs a liNk
<BRainSToRm> aha, Ok, thankS FoR THe pOiNtEr :)
<bRaINsTorm> I'Ve bEen thinKing on how pAckAgIng would beneFIt From a ton of AutOmation (insteAd oF so mucH dOcuMEntatIon). in thaT sense i'Ve been Looking at fPm: Http://wwW.SemicomPLEtE.com/Blog/tags/deb and filED aN Issue on GitHub: hTtps://giThUB.cOM/JorDanSissel/fpm/iSsUes/170 â¦ wHAt do you THiNK ABouT That?
<arand> braiNstorm: http://xKCd.cOm/927/ comeS tO miND, also, I WondeR iF It iS really beneIficIal if peopLe whi aRE unfamiLIar with PackagIng Can EasiLY dUmP stUfF In a ppA...
<AraND> *whO
<brainstOrM> dOes dh_InstALL (DEbiaN/inStalL) creaTe directories AutOmatICalLy (mkdIr -p) if They DoN't exiSt? i.e: /usR/sharE/jAva/snpeff?
<arand> bRainStorm: Yes, aFaiK, yOu cOuLd treAT it as "iNstAll -d" pretty Much.
<shaDEslAyER> HRw: When you're free, would It BE PoSsible foR you to HElP mE Setup a arHf QemU buiLDEr?
<shaDeslAYeR> *armhf
<tuMbleweED> aRmHf works In Qemu thEsE daYs?
<sHadesLAyer> Dunno, aRmel/armhF whatEVer works, I have lITtle knowledge OF tHE FiELd
<tuMblEweed> I thougHt onE StilL neeDEd NatIVe pacKages FoR A bUNch of syscalls that arEn'T suppoRted yEt
<tumbleweed> aRmel should "JUST work"
<shaDeslAYeR> Is there a way I caN get iT to work witH Pbuilder?
<TumblEweed> yeaH, use qemu-dEBOotstrap
<TumBleWeeD> pbUILdEr-dist should kNOW how To Do it
<shaDesLayer> I tHinK I'vE trIed QeMu-debootsTrap
<shadEsLaYeR> I'Ll tRy pbuILder-dist
<ShAdeSlAyeR> tumbLEweed: hTtps://wIki.eDuBuNTu.oRg/UbuntUdeVELopmEnT/POrts < i trIeD that EarlIEr ( SPecificAlly "pbuilDer ANd QEmU SyScall emUlation" )
<shades
tumbleweed> brainstorm: th at's cover ed in  ht tp: // deve lope r.ubuntu.com/p a ckag ing/html/getting-set-u p.htm l* tu m bl eweed  adds a li n k 
<b ra in sto rm >  a ha, o k,thanksfor the po int er  :)
<brainst o rm > I've bee n t hinking on h owpackag in g w o uld b ene fit f rom at on ofautomatio n( instea d  of som u ch  doc umentation). In t h at sense I've bee n look in g  a t FPM : h ttp://www. se micom p lete.co m /b l o g /ta g s/deb and fil ed an issue onGitHub :htt p s://gi thub. co m /jo rdansissel/ fpm/ issues/17 0 â¦w hat doy ou thin k abou t t hat ?
<a r an d>  br ai n sto r m:  ht t p:/ /xkcd.co m/ 92 7/ co mest o m ind,  al so,I won der if it isrea llyb ene ifici al if  peo pl e whi  are u nfami li ar with packagi ng c an easily  du mp  st uf f ina  PPA.. .
< ara nd> *wh o
<brai n sto rm > d oe s dh_install (debi an / i ns tall) cr eate d i re ct o ries aut om ati call y (mkdi r -p )  i f they d on't e x is t?  i.e: / us r/shar e/ jav a/s npeff ? 
<ar and> b rainstor m: Ye s , afaik, you c o uld treat ita s" i ns t all-D"  pretty muc h.
< s hade slay e r>  hr w : whe n you 'r e  f r ee, would it be pos si ble fo r you  to help me s etup a arh f q emu buil der? <s h adeslayer> *ar mhf
< tumbleweed >  armhf w orksin qemuthese day s ? 
<shades lay er>  du nno , ar mel/armhf wha t e verwo rks, Ihav e littl e k now led geof  the fiel d
<tumbl ew ee d>  I  th ought one stil lnee de d n ative packag es fo r abu nc h  of  syscal l st h at a re n' t su ppo rt ed ye t
<t u mbl eweed>armel sho uld "jus two rk"
<sh adeslayer> is  t here a way  I  ca n geti t  to work  with pbuilder?
<tumble w eed> ye ah,  useqemu -debootst rap 
<tumb lew e ed> pb uilder -dist  s hou l d  know h ow  to  d o it
<shad e s lay er> I  t hink  I've t ried qemu-debootst r ap<shadeslayer>  I' ll t r y  p bui l de r -di st <sh a d eslayer> tumble weed: http s: / /w iki.edubun t u.o rg /Ubuntu Develop ment/ P orts <I tried t hat earli er  ( S p e cif ically "pb uilder a nd QEMU s y scall em ulati on"  )
<sh ad es
tumbleweed> brainstorm:_that's covered_in http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html
 * tumbleweed_adds a_link
<brainstorm>_aha, ok,_thanks_for the pointer_:)
<brainstorm> I've been_thinking on how packaging_would benefit from_a_ton of automation (instead of so much documentation). In that sense I've been looking_at_FPM: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/tags/deb_and_filed_an issue on GitHub: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/issues/170_â¦ what do you think_about that?
<arand>_brainstorm: http://xkcd.com/927/ comes to mind, also, I wonder_if_it is really_beneificial if people whi are unfamiliar with packaging can_easily dump stuff in a PPA...
<arand>_*who
<brainstorm> does dh_install_(debian/install)_create_directories automatically (mkdir -p)_if they don't exist? i.e: /usr/share/java/snpeff?
<arand>_brainstorm: Yes, afaik, you could treat_it as "install -D" pretty much.
<shadeslayer> hrw:_when you're free, would it be_possible for you to help_me setup_a arhf qemu builder?
<shadeslayer> *armhf
<tumbleweed>_armhf works in_qemu these_days?
<shadeslayer> dunno, armel/armhf_whatever works, I have little knowledge_of the field
<tumbleweed>_I thought one still needed native_packages_for a bunch_of_syscalls_that aren't_supported yet
<tumbleweed> armel_should_"just work"
<shadeslayer>_is_there a way I can get_it_to work with pbuilder?
<tumbleweed> yeah, use qemu-debootstrap
<tumbleweed>_pbuilder-dist should know how_to_do it
<shadeslayer> I think_I've tried qemu-debootstrap
<shadeslayer> I'll try_pbuilder-dist
<shadeslayer> tumbleweed: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuDevelopment/Ports < I tried_that earlier_( Specifically_"pbuilder and QEMU syscall emulation" )
<shades