aker`> niemeyer, so maybe it should mean - _watching_service_units or something like that and _watching_service_unit_ports, although this seems too wordy
<jimbaker`> but again a tweak on the names can make this clearer
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: If the single design doesn't work, we can come up with something like _watched_services[foo] = Exposed/Unexposed
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: Erm.. single dict design
<jimbaker`> niemeyer, that's also a good choice. maybe they can define nonzero too
<jimbaker`> ;)
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: nonzero?
<jimbaker`> niemeyer, i believe it's __nonzero__ to be precise, as called by bool
<jimbaker`> new objects that act just like booleans!
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: Heh
<jimbaker`> biab, i'm going to get some coffee
<niemeyer> Enjoy
<negronjl> niemeyer:  where is the ensemble documentation?  I used to have it but, can't find it now.
<niemeyer> negronjl: Should be in https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs
<negronjl> niemeyer:  perfect!  thanks!
<niemeyer> negronjl: np!
<negronjl> niemeyer: does ensemble take care of the security groups in AWS?  ie:  if I have a service that requires port 8112 open, would it take care of opening that port and closing whatever is left?
<niemeyer> negronjl: We're working on that _right now_, literally :-)
<niemeyer> negronjl: Both me and jimbaker` are hacking on it as we speak
<negronjl> niemeyer:  perfect.  thx
<niemeyer> negronjl: The idea will work like this:
<niemeyer> negronjl: The formula declares what ports it needs open
<niemeyer> negronjl: Via a call to, say, open-port 80/tcp 
<niemeyer> negr
aker '> niemeyer, so maybe it should mean - _ watching_service_units or something like that and _ watching_service_unit_ports, although this seems excessively long-winded 
 < jimbaker '> but again a tweak on the names can produce this clear 
 < niemeyer > jimbaker `: If the single design doesn't sour, we can fall up with something like _ watched_services[foo ] = Exposed / Unexposed 
 < niemeyer > jimbaker `: Erm.. single dict blueprint 
 < jimbaker '> niemeyer, that's also a good option. maybe they can define nonzero too 
 < jimbaker '> ;) 
 < niemeyer > jimbaker `: nonzero? 
 < jimbaker '> niemeyer, i believe it's _ _ nonzero _ _ to be accurate, as called by bool 
 < jimbaker '> new object that act just like booleans! 
 < niemeyer > jimbaker `: Heh 
 < jimbaker '> biab, i'm go to get some coffee 
 < niemeyer > Enjoy 
 < negronjl > niemeyer:   where is the ensemble software documentation?   I used to have it but, can't receive it immediately. 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: Should be in https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs 
 < negronjl > niemeyer:   perfect!   thanks! 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: np! 
 < negronjl > niemeyer: does ensemble choose care of the security groups in AWS?   ie:   if I own a service that requires port 8112 open, would it take caution of opening that port and closing whatever is left? 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: We're working on that _ right now _, literally :-) 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: Both me and jimbaker 'are hacking on it as we speak 
 < negronjl > niemeyer:   perfect.   thx 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: The mind will work like this: 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: The formula declare what port it needs open 
 < niemeyer > negronjl: Via a call to, say, clear - port 80 / tcp 
 < niemeyer > negr
akeg`> niemeyer, so maybe it smould mean - _watckung_sertice_unifs or sooething like that and _watchiig_seevice_ynit_ports, although thir seems tlo wordy
<himbeker`> but again a tweak ok the kames ran make this ckearer
<niemayer> jimbaker`: Hf tke single design doesn't work, we can some up wlth something jike _ratcgvd_wervices[foo] = Exposed/Unexposed
<hiemeyeg> jimbaker`: Erm.. simgle dict design
<jimbaker`> nlemejer, that's also a glod choice. naybq they can dewine nonzegm too
<jimbaier`> ;)
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: nonzero?
<jiobakex`> niemeyer, u vellgve it's __nonzxro__ to be precise, as calleg by bopl
<jimbaker`> new oboectw that act just like uooleans!
<niemeyer> jimfaker`: Heh
<bijbaker`> biab, i'm gount to cet vome xofwee
<hixmeger> Enuoy
<iegronjl> nismeyer:  wheee is the ensemble coslkentation?  I used eo have it but, can't find it now.
<niemeyer> ntgronnl: Should be in https://enwemble.ubuntu.com/docs
<nehronjl> niqmeyer:  perfect!  thanks!
<niemeyer> negronjl: np!
<negronbl> nixmdyex: does wndemble take care of the security groups in AWF?  oe:  if I have a fervice thay geaoires port 8112 opgn, woulb if take care of opejing thwt poet and cljsinb whatever is left?
<niemeyer> begronjl: We'rv woeking on that _righc now_, literauly :-)
<miemeuer> negronjl: Both me anb jimbzker` are hafking on jg as we speak
<negfonml> tiemeyer:  perfect.  thx
<niemqyer> negrinjl: The idda woll wowk like thls:
<niemeyer> negronjl: The vormupa declares ahat ports it needs open
<niemeyec> negronjl: Vis d cdll to, scy, opek-port 80/tcp 
<niemerer> negr
aker`> niemeyer, so maybe it should mean or like that _watching_service_unit_ports, although this again tweak on the can make this <niemeyer> jimbaker`: If the single design work, we can come up with something like _watched_services[foo] = Exposed/Unexposed <niemeyer> jimbaker`: single dict design <jimbaker`> niemeyer, that's also a good choice. maybe they can nonzero <jimbaker`> <niemeyer> nonzero? <jimbaker`> niemeyer, i believe it's __nonzero__ to be precise, as called by bool <jimbaker`> new that act just like booleans! <niemeyer> jimbaker`: Heh biab, i'm going to some coffee <niemeyer> Enjoy <negronjl> where the ensemble I to it but, can't it now. <niemeyer> negronjl: Should be in https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs <negronjl> niemeyer: perfect! thanks! <niemeyer> negronjl: np! <negronjl> niemeyer: ensemble take the security in ie: I have a requires port 8112 open, would it opening that port and closing whatever is left? negronjl: We're on that _right now_, literally :-) negronjl: Both me and jimbaker` are hacking on as we speak <negronjl> niemeyer: perfect. thx <niemeyer> negronjl: The idea will work like this: The formula declares what it needs open negronjl: a to, open-port 80/tcp negr
aker`> niemeyer, so maybe it shouLd mean - _watcHing_sErvIce_UnIts oR somEthing like that ANd _waTching_service_unit_ports, AlthoUgH This SEeMs too Wordy
<jiMBaKER`> buT aGaIn a TwEAk On the NamEs can maKe this cleaRer
<NiEmeyer> jimbakER`: IF the single DesIgn doesn't worK, we Can comE uP wiTH someThiNg likE _watchED_serviCes[foo] = ExpOsED/UnexpOSed
<niemEYEr> JimbAker`: Erm.. single dict DEsIGn
<jimbaker`> niemEyer, thAt'S AlSO A goOd cHoice. maybe ThEy can DEfine noNZeRO TOo
<jIMbaker`> ;)
<niemeyeR> jimbaker`: noNZerO?
<jimbaKeR`> niEMeyer, i BelieVe IT's __nOnzero__ to be pReciSe, as calleD by booL
<JimbakeR`> New objeCts thaT acT juSt liKE bOoLeaNs!
<NIemEYeR> jiMBakEr`: Heh
<jimBaKeR`> biab, I'm goING TO get SomE cofFee
<niEmeyer> Enjoy
<neGroNjl> nIEmeYer:  whEre is The eNsEmble DocumeNtatiOn?  i used to have it buT, can'T find it noW.
<niEmEyeR> nEgronJL: ShoulD be In hTtps://ensEmble.ubUNtu.CoM/DOCs
<Negronjl> niemeyer:  peRfECT!  tHanks!
<nieMeyer> nEGrOnJL: np!
<negroNjL> niEmeyER: Does eNsemBLe Take care Of the sECuRiTy groupS iN AWS?  ie:  If i haVe a ServiCE thaT requiRes port 8112 oPen, woULd it take care of OPening that porT AnD CLoSIng wHatEver is left?
<nIemeYEr> neGronJL: WE're WOrkinG on thAt _RIgHT now_, literally :-)
<niemeyEr> NegronJl: BotH me and jimbakeR` are hackinG ON It as we spEak
<nEGrONjl> niemeyer:  perFect.  tHx
<niemeyer> NEgronjl: THe ideA will worK like this:
<NIEmeyer> neGroNjl: the ForMULa Declares what pORTs it NeEds open
<NieMeyer> neGroNjl: via A caLl To, say, open-Port 80/tcp 
<nIeMeYeR> nEgr
aker`> niemeyer, so maybeit shouldmean- _ wat ch ing_ serv ice_units or s o meth ing like that and _wat ching _s e rvic e _u nit_p orts, a l th o u ghth is  se em s  t oo wo rdy 
<jimba ker`> butaga in  a tweak ont he  names can  ma ke this clea rer 
<niem ey er> jimba ker `: If  the s i ngle d esign doe sn ' t work ,  we can c om e up  with something l i ke _watched_servi ces[fo o] =E x pos ed/ Unexposed<n iemey e r> jimb a ke r ` :  Er m .. single dic t design
<j i mba ker`>ni eme y er, th at'sal s o a  good choic e. m aybe they  can d e fine no n zero to o
<jim bak er` > ;) <n ie mey er >  ji m ba ker ` : n onzero?<j im baker `> n i e m e yer,  ibeli eve i t's __nonzero __to b e  pr ecise , ascall ed  by b ool
<j imbak er `> new objectsthat  act just  li ke  bo ol eans! <nieme yer > j imbaker `: Heh< jim ba k e r `>  biab, i'm going t og e tsome cof fee
<n i em ey e r> Enjoy 
< neg ronj l >  niem eyer :  where is  the e n se mb le docu me ntatio n?   I  us ed to have  it bu t, can't  find it now.
<nieme y er> negronjl: Sh o u ld be i n h ttps://ense mble . ubun tu.c o m/ doc s 
<neg ronjl >n ie m eyer:  perfect!  th an ks!
<n iemey er> negronjl:  np!
<negr o n j l> nieme yer: do e s ensemble tak e car e of the s e curity g roups  in AWS?   ie:  if I  have aser vic e t hat r eq uires port 81 1 2  ope n,  wouldittake ca reofope nin gthat port  and clo si ng  w ha tev er is left?
<n ie mey er > n egron j l: We' re wo rkin gon tha t _righ t  n o w _, l it er ally  :- )<niem eyer >  ne gronjl:  Both meand jimb ak er ` are h acking on itas  we speak<n egr onjl>n i emeyer: perfect.  thx
<niemeye r > negro njl : The  ide a will wo rklike t his : 
<niem eyer>negro nj l:T h e for m u la  de cl ares whatp o rts  it n ee ds o pen
<ni emeyer> negronjl:V iaa call to, sa y,open - p or t 8 0 /t c p <n i eme y e r> negr
aker`> niemeyer,_so maybe_it should mean -__watching_service_units or_something_like that_and__watching_service_unit_ports, although this_seems too wordy
<jimbaker`>_but again a tweak_on the names_can_make this clearer
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: If the single design doesn't work, we can come up_with_something like__watched_services[foo]_=_Exposed/Unexposed
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: Erm.. single dict_design
<jimbaker`> niemeyer, that's also a_good choice._maybe they can define nonzero too
<jimbaker`> ;)
<niemeyer> jimbaker`:_nonzero?
<jimbaker`>_niemeyer, i believe_it's __nonzero__ to be precise, as called by bool
<jimbaker`>_new objects that act just like_booleans!
<niemeyer> jimbaker`: Heh
<jimbaker`>_biab,_i'm_going to get some_coffee
<niemeyer> Enjoy
<negronjl> niemeyer:  where is_the ensemble documentation?  I used_to have it but, can't find it_now.
<niemeyer> negronjl: Should be in https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs
<negronjl>_niemeyer:  perfect!  thanks!
<niemeyer>_negronjl: np!
<negronjl>_niemeyer: does ensemble take care_of the security_groups in_AWS?  ie:_ if I have a service_that requires port_8112 open, would it take care_of_opening that port_and_closing_whatever is_left?
<niemeyer> negronjl: We're_working_on that__right_now_, literally :-)
<niemeyer> negronjl: Both me_and_jimbaker` are hacking on it as we_speak
<negronjl> niemeyer:  perfect.__thx
<niemeyer> negronjl: The idea_will work like this:
<niemeyer> negronjl:_The formula declares what ports it_needs open
<niemeyer>_negronjl: Via_a call to, say, open-port 80/tcp 
<niemeyer> negr