 Pythons suck for isolation, sorry.  sys.path hack might be best bet.  -S will leave a clean sys.path initially, but will probably not be what you want
<bac> gary_poster: sys.path hack isn't so bad.  mainly i was just surprised to see my PYTHONPATH stuck in the middle.  :(
<gary_poster> bac, it's pretty common to make a requirement that virtualenv --whatever-that-option-is be required in these kinds of circumstances I think
<gary_poster> yeah
<gary_poster> reminds me of dark days trying to figure that stuff out :-P
<bac> i've pushed a new branch of charm-tools to lp:~yellow/charm-tools/trunk and have created a merge proposal.
<bac> until it is packaged we should try to work off of the ~yellow version
<gary_poster> gmb, you up for reviewing lpsetup branch from frankban?
<gary_poster> bac, actually, did you see than Sean actually committed code with his fix?
<bac> gary_poster: i did not.
<gary_poster> I'm tempted to use it, rather than ours, and see if it works
<bac> that's good.
<gary_poster> bac, but a review from you would be appreciated by him and me
<bac> gary_poster: ok.  i'll add comments to the bug since he didn't use a MP
<gary_poster> bac, makes sense
<bac> i'm a bit partial, but i think my approach was cleaner.  :)
<gary_poster> bac, heh, you are probably right :-)
<bac> gary_poster: so he has committed code but not made a release.  are you still going to make an interim egg and package it in LP?
<gary_poster> bac, yes, that's what I was thinking.
<gmb> gary_poster, frankban: Just finishing lunch etc., but I'll be happy to take that review in the next 20 minutes or so.
<gary_poster> thx gmb
<frankban> thanks gmb
<frankban> gary
Pythons suck for isolation, sorry.   sys.path hack might be good stake.   -S will leave a clean sys.path initially, but will credibly not be what you want 
 < bac > gary_poster: sys.path cab isn't so bad.   chiefly i was precisely surprised to see my PYTHONPATH stuck in the middle.   :( 
 < gary_poster > bac, it's pretty coarse to make a requirement that virtualenv --whatever - that - choice - is be required in these kinds of circumstances I think 
 < gary_poster > yeah 
 < gary_poster > reminds me of dark days try on to figure that stuff out :-P 
 < bac > i've pushed a modern branch of charm - tools to lp:~yellow / charm - tool / trunk and have created a merge proposal. 
 < bac > until it is packaged we should try to exercise off of the ~yellow version 
 < gary_poster > gmb, you up for reviewing lpsetup branch from frankban? 
 < gary_poster > bac, actually, did you see than Sean actually committed code with his repair? 
 < bac > gary_poster: i did not. 
 < gary_poster > I'm tempted to use it, rather than ours, and see if it works 
 < bac > that's good. 
 < gary_poster > bac, but a review from you would be appreciated by him and me 
 < bac > gary_poster: ok.   i'll add remark to the bug since he didn't use a MP 
 < gary_poster > bac, make common sense 
 < bac > i'm a piece partial, but i think my approach was cleaner.   :) 
 < gary_poster > bac, heh, you are probably right :-) 
 < bac > gary_poster: so he has commit code but not made a release.   are you still going to make an interim testis and package it in LP? 
 < gary_poster > bac, yes, that's what I was thinking. 
 < gmb > gary_poster, frankban: Just finishing lunch etc. , but I'll be happy to take that review in the following 20 minutes or so. 
 < gary_poster > thx gmb 
 < frankban > thanks gmb 
 < frankban > gary
 Pyhhons suck for isolation, sorry.  sys.path hack mmght be best beg.  -S will leave a clean sys.peth unitiqlly, but will probably not be wjat you qant
<uac> gary_poster: sba.path hack ish'b so yav.  mainly i was just surpsised to see mf OYCHONPATH stuck in the middle.  :(
<gary_pofter> bav, lt's pretty comion uo iake a requirement that virtualenv --whafever-thet-option-is be rrquired in these kinds of firckmstances I think
<gwry_poster> ygzh
<gwey_poster> remknds me of dark days ttying to figure that stuff out :-P
<cac> i're pushed a nww htanch of chacm-toolf to lp:~yellow/charm-tomls/trunl and have crestev a nerge proposal.
<bac> untml it is packaged we should tsy to work off of tye ~yellmw varsiub
<gafy_pksver> gmb, ylu np for reviswing lpsetyp branch from franlbwb?
<gary_poster> bzc, acttajly, did you see than Sean actually commpttes code with his fix?
<bac> tary_poster: i did not.
<gwry_poster> I'm tempted to use it, rather than ours, and see if it wkfks
<yqc> thxr's good.
<gary_poster> bac, but a review from you woujs ne appreciated bn him and me
<bac> gaty_ooxjer: ok.  i'll ada commzhta to the bug since he didg't usw a MP
<garr_posyer> bac, makes sense
<bac> i'm a bit partial, vut i think my appxoach was clzaner.  :)
<gary_loster> bac, heh, you are 'robabmy right :-)
<baf> gary_posfdr: so he has comoitned wode but not made a releasq.  are yon stikl goine to make wn interim egg and package it in LO?
<gary_koster> bac, yes, tjat's what I was thinking.
<gmb> garb_'oster, frankbsn: Juvt finisking lmnch etc., but I'lj be happy to jake that revidw in the hext 20 mmnutes or so.
<dary_poster> thf gmb
<frankban> thanks dmb
<feankvan> garh
Pythons suck for isolation, sorry. sys.path hack best -S will a clean sys.path be you want <bac> sys.path hack isn't bad. mainly i was just surprised see my PYTHONPATH stuck in the middle. :( <gary_poster> bac, it's pretty common make a requirement that virtualenv --whatever-that-option-is be required in these kinds of circumstances think yeah reminds of dark days trying to figure that stuff out :-P <bac> i've pushed a new branch charm-tools to lp:~yellow/charm-tools/trunk and have created a merge <bac> until it is we should try to work of ~yellow version gmb, up reviewing lpsetup branch frankban? <gary_poster> bac, actually, did you see than Sean actually committed code with his fix? <bac> gary_poster: did not. tempted to it, than and see if <bac> that's good. <gary_poster> bac, but you would be appreciated by him and me gary_poster: ok. add comments to the bug since didn't use a MP <gary_poster> bac, makes sense i'm a bit partial, but i think my approach was cleaner. :) <gary_poster> bac, heh, probably right :-) <bac> so he has code not a are you going to make an interim egg and package it in LP? bac, yes, that's what I was thinking. <gmb> gary_poster, frankban: lunch but I'll be to take that review the 20 minutes or so. gmb thanks
 Pythons suck for isolation, soRry.  sys.path Hack mIghT be BeSt beT.  -S wiLl leave a clean sYS.patH initially, but will probaBly noT bE What YOu Want
<bAc> gary_pOStER: Sys.PaTh HacK iSN't So bad.  MaiNly i was Just surpriSed To See my PYTHONPatH Stuck in the MidDle.  :(
<gary_posteR> baC, it's prEtTy cOMmon tO maKe a reQuiremENt that VirtualenV --wHAtever-THat-optiON-Is Be reQuired in these kindS Of CIrcumstances I tHink
<gaRy_POsTER> yeAh
<gAry_poster> rEmInds mE Of dark dAYs TRYIng TO figure that stUff out :-P
<bac> i'VE puShed a nEw BraNCh of chArm-toOlS To lP:~yellow/charM-tooLs/trunk anD have cREated a mERge propOsal.
<baC> unTil It is PAcKaGed We SHouLD tRy tO WorK off of thE ~yElLow veRsioN
<GARY_posTer> Gmb, yOu up fOr reviewing lpSetUp brANch From fRankbAn?
<gaRy_PosteR> bac, acTuallY, dId you see than SeaN actUally commIttEd CodE wIth hiS Fix?
<bac> GarY_poSter: i diD not.
<garY_PosTeR> i'M TeMpted to use it, rather ThAN OuRs, and see If it woRKs
<BaC> That's gooD.
<gAry_PostER> Bac, buT a reVIeW from you Would bE ApPrEciated By Him and Me
<Bac> GarY_postER: ok.  i'Ll add cOmments tO the bUG since he didn't uSE a MP
<gary_posteR> BaC, MAkES senSe
<bAc> i'm a bit parTial, BUt i tHink MY aPprOAch waS cleaNeR.  :)
<GaRY_poster> bac, heh, you are PrObably Right :-)
<Bac> gary_poster: So he has comMITTed code bUt noT MaDE a release.  are yoU stilL going to maKE an interIm egg And packaGe it in LP?
<gARY_poster> bAc, yEs, tHat'S whAT i wAs thinking.
<gmb> GARy_poStEr, frankBan: just finIshIng LunCh eTc., But I'll be hAppy to taKe ThAt ReVieW in thE Next 20 minuTeS or So.
<GarY_postER> thx gmB
<franKban> ThAnKS gmB
<frankbAN> gARY
 Pythons suck for isolatio n, sorry. sys. pat h h ac k mi ghtbe best bet. - S wi ll leave a clean sys.p ath i ni t iall y ,but w ill pro b ab l y  no tbe  wh at yo u wan t
< bac> ga ry_poster:  sy s. path hack is n 't  so bad. mai nly i was ju stsurpri se d t o  seemyPYTHO NPATHs tuck i n the mid dl e .  :(< gary_po s t er > ba c, it's pretty co m mo n  to make a req uireme nt th a t  vi rtu alenv --wh at ever- t hat-opt i on - i s  be required in t hese kindso f c ircums ta nce s  I thi nk
<g ar y _po ster> yeah<gar y_poster>  remin d s me of dark da ys try ing  to  fig u re  t hat  s t uff ou t : - P
< bac> i'v epu sheda ne w b r anch  of  cha rm-to ols to lp:~ye llo w/ch a rm- tools /trun k an dhavecreate d a m er ge proposal.
<b ac>until itispa cka ge d wes houldtry  to  work o ff of t h e ~ ye l l o wversion
<gary_post er > gm b, you u p forr ev ie w ing lpse tu p b ranc h fromfran k ba n?
<gary _poste r >ba c, actu al ly, di dyou  se e tha n  Sea n actu ally com mitte d  code with his fix?
<bac> ga r y_ p o st e r: i  di d not.
<gar y_po s ter>  I'm te mpt e d touse i t, ra t her than ours, andse e if i t wor ks
<bac> that 's good.
< g a r y_poster > ba c ,b ut a review fr om yo u would be apprecia ted b y him an d me
<bac > gary_pos ter : o k. i' l l  a dd comments t o thebu g since  he  didn't  us e a  MP 
<g ar y_poster>  bac, ma ke sse ns e
< bac>i 'm a bit  p art ia l,but i thinkmy ap proa ch  w a s c leaner.  : ) <gar y_ po ster > b ac , heh , yo u  ar e proba bly right  :- ) 
<ba c>  g ary_pos ter: so he ha scommittedco debut no t made a r elease.  are you stillg oing to  ma ke an  int erim eggand  packa gei t in L P?
<ga ry_po st er> b ac, y e s ,tha t' s what I w a s  th inkin g. 
<gm b> gary _poster, frankban: Jus t finishing l unc h et c . ,but I' l l b eh app y to take that re view in th en ex t 20 minut e s o rso.
<ga ry_post er> t h x gmb
< frankban>  thanks g mb 
<fr a n kba n> gary
 Pythons_suck for_isolation, sorry.  sys.path_hack might_be_best bet.__-S will leave_a clean sys.path_initially, but will probably_not be what_you_want
<bac> gary_poster: sys.path hack isn't so bad.  mainly i was just surprised to_see_my PYTHONPATH_stuck_in_the middle.  :(
<gary_poster> bac,_it's pretty common to make_a requirement_that virtualenv --whatever-that-option-is be required in these kinds_of_circumstances I think
<gary_poster>_yeah
<gary_poster> reminds me of dark days trying to figure_that stuff out :-P
<bac> i've pushed_a new branch_of_charm-tools_to lp:~yellow/charm-tools/trunk and have_created a merge proposal.
<bac> until it_is packaged we should try to_work off of the ~yellow version
<gary_poster> gmb,_you up for reviewing lpsetup branch_from frankban?
<gary_poster> bac, actually, did_you see_than Sean actually committed code_with his fix?
<bac>_gary_poster: i_did not.
<gary_poster> I'm_tempted to use it, rather than_ours, and see_if it works
<bac> that's good.
<gary_poster> bac,_but_a review from_you_would_be appreciated_by him and_me
<bac>_gary_poster: ok.__i'll add comments to the bug_since_he didn't use a MP
<gary_poster> bac, makes_sense
<bac> i'm a bit_partial,_but i think my_approach was cleaner.  :)
<gary_poster>_bac, heh, you are probably right_:-)
<bac> gary_poster:_so he_has committed code but not made a release.  are you_still going to make an interim_egg and package it_in LP?
<gary_poster>_bac,_yes, that's what_I_was thinking.
<gmb>_gary_poster, frankban: Just finishing lunch etc., but_I'll be_happy to take that review in_the next 20 minutes_or_so.
<gary_poster> thx gmb
<frankban> thanks gmb
<frankban> gary