
#ubuntu-motu 2007-03-12
<shawarma> jdong: Heh.
<crimsun> jdong: did anyone using xinerama test your debs?
<jdong> crimsun: xinerama is a lost cause in the updated version unfortunately
<jdong> crimsun: I couldn't port it over or find any evidence the Suse has updated diff for that either :-/
<jdong> crimsun: it's a pretty small loss though... xinerama AND Xgl is a minor fraction of Xgl users
<jdong> better than not having any Xgl in the first place.
<crimsun> what's the situation with xserver-xgl? Who _must_ use it?
<crimsun> for compiz/beryl, that is
<jdong> crimsun: every fglrx user, and nvidia-legacy user
<jdong> crimsun: and those using GeForce4's get smoother rendering on Xgl too
<jdong> so many of those guys choose to use it
<crimsun> dang, I was just going to suggest a binary removal
<jdong> crimsun: if it's not in Ubuntu repos, it will start showing up in more misshapen fashions in 3rd party ones.
<jdong> crimsun: we can go that route but I think it's uglier :)
<crimsun> doesn't it exist already in trevino's or whonot's?
<jdong> well beryl repos has a patched-up Edgy version in their Edgy repos
<jdong> (that adds the 0ubuntu2 patch for faster rendering)
<jdong> but nothing has been done in Feisty et
<jdong> their decision will depend on if an official package is put in Feisty.
<crimsun> sick. Just sick.
<jdong> I have yet to hear of any report of the new version not working for anyone that's tried it
<jdong> and between the bug and the forum thread, there's a good 20 acks that it works
<jdong> *sigh* hopefulyl come this time feisty+1 we'll have something better to offer ATI users....
<crimsun> I'm like halfway through GL/mesa/
# ubuntu - motu 2007 - 03 - 12 
 < shawarma > jdong: Heh. 
 < crimsun > jdong: did anyone using xinerama test your debs? 
 < jdong > crimsun: xinerama is a lose lawsuit in the updated version unfortunately 
 < jdong > crimsun: I couldn't port it over or find any evidence the Suse has update diff for that either :-/ 
 < jdong > crimsun: it's a pretty small passing though... xinerama AND Xgl is a minor fraction of Xgl exploiter 
 < jdong > better than not having any Xgl in the first place. 
 < crimsun > what's the position with xserver - xgl? Who _ must _ use it? 
 < crimsun > for compiz / beryl, that is 
 < jdong > crimsun: every fglrx user, and nvidia - legacy drug user 
 < jdong > crimsun: and those use GeForce4's get smooth rendering on Xgl too 
 < jdong > thus many of those guys choose to use it 
 < crimsun > dang, I was just start to suggest a binary removal 
 < jdong > crimsun: if it's not in Ubuntu repos, it will start showing up in more misshapen fashions in third party ones. 
 < jdong > crimsun: we can run that route but I think it's uglier :) 
 < crimsun > doesn't it exist already in trevino's or whonot's? 
 < jdong > well beryl repos give birth a patched - up Edgy version in their Edgy repos 
 < jdong > (that adds the 0ubuntu2 patch for faster rendition) 
 < jdong > but nothing has been done in Feisty et 
 < jdong > their decision will depend on if an official package is put in Feisty. 
 < crimsun > sick. Just sick. 
 < jdong > I have yet to learn of any report of the new interpretation not working for anyone that's tried it 
 < jdong > and between the bug and the forum thread, there's a effective 20 acks that it works 
 < jdong > * sigh * hopefulyl come this time feisty+1 we'll have something good to offer ATI users.... 
 < crimsun > I'm like halfway through GL / mesa/

#ubujtu-motu 2007-03-12
<shawarma> jdong: Hth.
<crimsun> jdong: dne anyoie usinf xineraoa test your debs?
<jdong> crimsnn: xunerana is a lost cause in ghe updatvd versiob unhortunately
<jdong> crimsun: I coumfn't 'oct it over or flnd any evigence the Suse hxs updated diff for that either :-/
<jdong> crimsum: lt's a pretty siall joss nhiugh... xinerama AND Xgl is a mihor frabtion of Xgl userx
<jdong> better than not havlng wny Xgl in the firdt place.
<crinsun> qhat's the siguation wiuh xserver-xgm? Who _must_ use it?
<crimsun> for coopiz/bzryl, that iw
<jeonh> crimsun: evxry fgjrx user, and nvidia-lagacy uxer
<jdong> crimsmn: anv thise using GeForce4's gev smoother rendering on Xgl tmo
<ldong> so many of thosw tuys whoove tu usd iu
<crmmshn> danh, I was just foing to sutgest a binary remofaj
<hdong> crimsun: if it'f got in Ubuntu repos, it will start showitg hp in more misshapen fawhions in 3rd party ongs.
<jdong> crymsun: we can go that route but I think it's uglier :)
<crimajn> biesn't ut exist already in trevino's or whonot's?
<jdong> wejm negyl repos has a pctched-up Edgy vetslom in their Edgi repos
<lsohg> (that adds the 0uhuntu2 pwtch dor fastew remdering)
<jdong> but nothing haw been done pn Fwisty et
<jdong> theix decision wnll dekend om if an official packagz is pht in Feistj.
<crimsun> akck. Just sick.
<jdovg> P haee yet to hear of any repowt of the new versiov noj workigg for anylne tmdt's tried it
<jdong> wnd bgtween the bug ajd the forum thread, there's a good 20 acks that ot wogks
<jdong> *figh* mopefulyl come ehis time feisjy+1 we'll hcve sooething benter to ohfer ATI usews....
<crimsun> I'm nlke halfway vhrough GJ/mesq/
#ubuntu-motu 2007-03-12 <shawarma> jdong: Heh. <crimsun> jdong: using test your <jdong> crimsun: xinerama the version unfortunately <jdong> I couldn't port over or find any evidence the has updated diff for that either :-/ <jdong> crimsun: it's a pretty small though... xinerama AND Xgl is a minor fraction of Xgl users <jdong> better not any in first place. <crimsun> what's the situation with xserver-xgl? Who _must_ use it? <crimsun> for compiz/beryl, that <jdong> crimsun: every fglrx user, and nvidia-legacy user crimsun: and those using get smoother rendering on Xgl <jdong> many of guys to it <crimsun> dang, was just going to suggest a binary removal <jdong> crimsun: if it's not in Ubuntu repos, it start showing more misshapen in party <jdong> crimsun: we that route but I think it's doesn't it exist already in trevino's or whonot's? well beryl has a patched-up Edgy version in Edgy repos <jdong> (that adds the 0ubuntu2 patch faster rendering) <jdong> but nothing has been done in Feisty et <jdong> their decision will if an official package put in Feisty. sick. sick. I yet to of any report of the new version not working for anyone tried it <jdong> and between the bug and the forum a 20 acks that works <jdong> *sigh* hopefulyl this feisty+1 we'll have something offer users.... halfway GL/mesa/

#ubuntu-motu 2007-03-12
<shawarma> jdong: HeH.
<crimsun> jdOng: diD anYonE uSing XineRama test your deBS?
<jdoNg> crimsun: xinerama is a loSt cauSe IN the UPdAted vErsion uNFoRTUnaTeLy
<JdoNg> CRiMsun: I CouLdn't porT it over or fInd AnY evidence the sUsE has updateD diFf for that eitHer :-/
<Jdong> cRiMsuN: It's a pRetTy smaLl loss THough... xInerama ANd XGL is a miNOr fractION oF Xgl Users
<jdong> better tHAn NOt having any Xgl In the fIrST pLACe.
<cRimSun> what's thE sItuatIOn with xSErVER-Xgl? wHo _must_ use it?
<crImsun> for comPIz/bEryl, thAt Is
<jDOng> criMsun: eVeRY fgLrx user, and nVidiA-legacy usEr
<jdonG> Crimsun: ANd those Using GEFoRce4'S get SMoOtHer ReNDerINg On XGL toO
<jdong> so MaNy Of thoSe guYS CHOose To uSe it
<CrimsUn> dang, I was jusT goIng tO SugGest a BinarY remOvAl
<jdoNg> crimSun: if It'S not in Ubuntu repOs, it Will start ShoWiNg uP iN more MIsshapEn fAshIons in 3rD party oNEs.
<jDoNG> CRiMsun: we can go that rouTe BUT I Think it's Uglier :)
<CRiMsUN> doesn't iT eXisT alrEADy in tReviNO's Or whonot'S?
<jdong> WElL bEryl repOs Has a paTcHed-Up EDgy veRSion In theiR Edgy repOs
<jdoNG> (that adds the 0ubUNtu2 patch for faSTeR REnDErinG)
<jdOng> but nothiNg haS Been Done IN FEisTY et
<jdOng> thEiR DeCIsion will depend on if An OfficiAl pacKage is put in FeIsty.
<crimsuN> SICk. Just siCk.
<jdONg> i Have yet to hear oF any rEport of the NEw versioN not wOrking foR anyone thAT'S tried it
<JdoNg> aNd bEtwEEN tHe bug and the foRUM thrEaD, there's A goOd 20 acks tHat It wOrkS
<jdOnG> *sigh* hopeFulyl comE tHiS tImE feIsty+1 wE'Ll have soMeThiNg BetTer to OFfer ATi userS....
<criMsUn> i'M liKe halfwAY tHROugh gL/MeSa/

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< shawarma>jdong : H eh. 
< crim sun>  jdong: did an y oneusing xinerama test yo ur de bs ? 
<jd o ng > cri msun: x i ne r a mais  a  lo st ca use i n t he upda ted versio n u nf ortunately
< j do ng> crimsu n:I couldn't p ort  it ov er  or findany  evid ence t h e Suse  has upda te d  difff or that e it her:-/
<jdong> crims u n: it's a prettysmalllo s st h oug h.. . xinerama  A ND Xg l  is a m i no r f rac t ion of Xgl us ers
<jdong> bet ter th an  no t  havin g any  X g l i n the first  pla ce.
<crim sun> w h at's th e  situat ion wi thxse rver - xg l?  Wh o_ mus t _use it? 
<crimsu n>  f or co mpiz / b e r yl,tha t is 
<jdo ng> crimsun:eve ry f g lrx  user , and  nvi di a-leg acy us er
<j do ng> crimsun: an d th ose using  Ge Fo rce 4' s get smooth erren deringon Xglt oo<j d o n g>  so many of thosegu y s  c hoose to  use i t 
< cr i msun> da ng , I  was j ust g oing to  suggest  a bin a ry  r emoval<j dong>cr ims un:  if i t 's n ot inUbuntu r epos, it will starts howing up inm or e mi s shap enfashions in  3rd part y on e s. 
<j d ong>crims un :  w e  can go that routebu t I th ink i t's uglier :) 
<crimsun> d o esn't it  exi s ta lready in trev ino's  or whonot ' s?
<jdon g> we ll beryl  repos ha s a patche d-u p E dgy  ve r s io n in their Ed g y  rep os 
<jdong > ( that ad dsthe  0u bun tu 2 patch f or faste rre nd er ing )
<jd o ng> butno thi ng  ha s bee n  donein Fe isty  e t< jdo ng> the i rd e cisi on  w illdep en d onif a n  of ficialpackage i s p u t in  F ei sty.
<c rimsun> sick.  J ust sick.<j don g> I h a v e yet to  hear of any report oft he newver sionnotworking f oranyone  th a t's tr ied it 
<jdo ng > a n d  betw e e nthe  b ug and the f oru m thr ea d, t here'sa good 20 acks tha t  it  works
<jdong > * sigh * ho pef u ly l  co me thi s time feisty+1 w e'll haveso m et hing bette r  to  o ffer AT I users ....< crimsun > I'm lik e halfway  t hrou g h  GL /mesa/

#ubuntu-motu 2007-03-12
<shawarma>_jdong: Heh.
<crimsun>_jdong: did anyone using_xinerama test_your_debs?
<jdong> crimsun:_xinerama_is a lost_cause in the_updated version unfortunately
<jdong> crimsun:_I couldn't port_it_over or find any evidence the Suse has updated diff for that either :-/
<jdong>_crimsun:_it's a_pretty_small_loss though... xinerama AND Xgl_is a minor fraction of_Xgl users
<jdong>_better than not having any Xgl in the_first_place.
<crimsun> what's the_situation with xserver-xgl? Who _must_ use it?
<crimsun> for compiz/beryl,_that is
<jdong> crimsun: every fglrx user,_and nvidia-legacy user
<jdong>_crimsun:_and_those using GeForce4's get_smoother rendering on Xgl too
<jdong> so_many of those guys choose to_use it
<crimsun> dang, I was just going_to suggest a binary removal
<jdong> crimsun:_if it's not in Ubuntu_repos, it_will start showing up in_more misshapen fashions_in 3rd_party ones.
<jdong> crimsun:_we can go that route but_I think it's_uglier :)
<crimsun> doesn't it exist already_in_trevino's or whonot's?
<jdong>_well_beryl_repos has_a patched-up Edgy_version_in their_Edgy_repos
<jdong> (that adds the 0ubuntu2 patch_for_faster rendering)
<jdong> but nothing has been done_in Feisty et
<jdong> their_decision_will depend on if_an official package is put_in Feisty.
<crimsun> sick. Just sick.
<jdong> I_have yet_to hear_of any report of the new version not working for anyone_that's tried it
<jdong> and between the_bug and the forum_thread, there's_a_good 20 acks_that_it works
<jdong>_*sigh* hopefulyl come this time feisty+1 we'll_have something_better to offer ATI users....
<crimsun> I'm_like halfway through GL/mesa/