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<sabdfl> they have their own repos, they are publishing the packages, users are getting them, what's the problem?
<jdong> stgraber: looks like one should diff RELEASE1 and RELEASE2 and isolate the patch, SRU it
<sabdfl> sistpoty: someone out there cares about almost any little packages
<LaserJock> sabdfl: the problem is they didn't get them to us, and we can't babysit all upstreams
<ScottK> sabdfl: I think every upstream knows they get more exposure if they are acutally in the distro.  That's why I showed up.
<sabdfl> this conversation is just catalysed because i happen to care about beryl, but the really important thing is to get a good GENERAL framework, that applies to all packages
<LaserJock> I mean, I talke to PriceChild all the time
<LaserJock> he never said anything
<LaserJock> he's in here quite often
<sistpoty> sabdfl: yep, but we as motus obviously didn't make it a priority
<sabdfl> and he could say you never said anything
<stgraber> jdong: ok, I guess it will more likely end with a : fixed in Feisty please upgrade once Feisty will be released
<lupine_85> Question. Can one have two Maintainers: fields in a control file?
<LaserJock> I've seen lupine_85 a fair amout
<sabdfl> it's easy for both sides to say "those guys don't get it"
<jdong> stgraber: not necessarily; someone just has to isolate the patch that fixes the problem
<sabdfl> and i'm saying that for MOTU, figuring out how to be a really rocking attractive place for upstreams is a GREAT way to expand the poolof talent here
<LaserJock> lupine_85: you can have Uploaders: or a mailing list or something for Maintainer:
<lupine_85> ok
* lupine_85 leaves as-is for now
<sabdfl> i'm very glad to be having this
<jdong> stgraber
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 < sabdfl > they have their own repos, they are publishing the packages, users are get them, what's the trouble? 
 < jdong > stgraber: looks like one should diff RELEASE1 and RELEASE2 and isolate the while, SRU it 
 < sabdfl > sistpoty: someone away there cares about almost any little package 
 < LaserJock > sabdfl: the problem is they didn't get them to us, and we can't babysit all upstreams 
 < ScottK > sabdfl: I remember every upstream knows they get more photograph if they are acutally in the distro.   That's why I showed up. 
 < sabdfl > this conversation is just catalyze because i happen to care about beryl, but the really important thing is to get a good cosmopolitan framework, that applies to all packages 
 < LaserJock > I intend, I talke to PriceChild all the time 
 < LaserJock > he never said anything 
 < LaserJock > he's in here quite frequently 
 < sistpoty > sabdfl: yep, but we as motus obviously didn't make it a precedence 
 < sabdfl > and he could say you never read anything 
 < stgraber > jdong: ok, I guess it will more likely end with a: fixed in Feisty please promote once Feisty will be released 
 < lupine_85 > Question. Can one have two Maintainers: fields in a control file? 
 < LaserJock > I've seen lupine_85 a clean amout 
 < sabdfl > it's easy for both sides to say " those guys don't get it " 
 < jdong > stgraber: not necessarily; someone just has to isolate the patch that sterilize the problem 
 < sabdfl > and i'm saying that for MOTU, visualize out how to be a very rocking attractive place for upstreams is a big way to expand the poolof talent here 
 < LaserJock > lupine_85: you can have Uploaders: or a mailing tilt or something for Maintainer: 
 < lupine_85 > ok 
 * lupine_85 leaves as - is for now 
 < sabdfl > i'm very glad to be having this 
 < jdong > stgraber
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<dabdfl> they have their odn repos, they ate publivhing fhe packxges, users are getting them, xhat'w the problem?
<jdong> stgraber: looks line one syoulv diff RELEASE1 ais RELEASE2 and lsolace the patch, SRU it
<sabdfl> vistpoty: someote obt there cares about almost any littje packsgfs
<LaserJock> safdfl: ehe lgonlem is they didn't get them to ua, and wt can't babysit all upstreams
<ScottK> sabdfl: I hhinn every upstream kjows they ggf mjee exposure kf they art ccutally in the distro.  That's why I showed up.
<saydfl> this cincerddtion is juwt canalysed because i hap[en to vare about bernl, buv thw really important thmng is to get a good GENERAL xrcmework, that applies ro all kackaces
<LxwerGoci> M msan, I halie to PricsChild all rhe time
<LaserJock> ht nqnrr said anytging
<LafewJock> he's in here quite often
<sistpoty> sdbdrl: yep, but we as motus ibviously didn't make lt a priowity
<sabdfl> and he could say you never said anythitg
<stgcacer> jqubg: ok, I guess it will more likely end with a : fysec pn Feisty please mpgrade once Feistu aikj be released
<uupine_85> Qusstion. Can one havf two Mwintauners: fiejds on a control file?
<LaserJock> U've seen luppne_85 q fair amout
<sabdfl> it's easy fur bpth sodes to say "those guys bon't gst it"
<jdong> dtgraber: hut necessarily; sumepna just has to isolate the [atch thav fixzs the pfoblgm
<sabdfj> and i'm swying that for MOTU, figuging lud how to bf a really rocking attractive place for upstrgamv iv a GREAC way bo expand the pjolof talent hgre
<LaserJjck> ljpine_85: you ban have Nploaders: or a mailing livj or somethinj for Maigtaiber:
<lypine_85> oy
* lupine_85 leaves as-is for now
<sabdfl> i'm very glad to bc havkhg this
<jdong> styxaver
it <sabdfl> they have their own repos, publishing packages, users getting them, what's like should diff RELEASE1 RELEASE2 and isolate patch, SRU it <sabdfl> sistpoty: someone there cares about almost any little packages <LaserJock> sabdfl: the problem is they get them to us, and we can't babysit all upstreams <ScottK> sabdfl: I every knows get exposure if they are acutally in the distro. That's why I showed up. <sabdfl> this conversation just catalysed because i happen to care about but the really important is to get a good framework, applies to packages I I talke to all the time <LaserJock> he never said anything <LaserJock> he's in here quite often <sistpoty> sabdfl: yep, we as didn't make a <sabdfl> he could say said anything <stgraber> jdong: ok, I more likely end with a : fixed in please upgrade Feisty will be released <lupine_85> Question. one have two Maintainers: fields in a control <LaserJock> I've seen lupine_85 a fair amout <sabdfl> it's easy for both sides to say don't get it" <jdong> not necessarily; someone has isolate patch fixes the <sabdfl> and i'm saying that for MOTU, figuring out how to a really rocking attractive place for upstreams is a GREAT expand poolof talent here lupine_85: you can have or mailing list or something <lupine_85> * for <sabdfl> very glad to be this <jdong> stgraber
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<sabdfl> they have their own rEpos, they arE publIshIng ThE pacKageS, users are gettiNG theM, what's the problem?
<jdong> sTgrabEr: LOoks LIkE one sHould diFF ReleASe1 aNd rELeAse2 aNd isoLatE the patCh, SRU it
<sabDfl> SiStpoty: someonE OuT there careS abOut almost any LitTle pacKaGes
<lAserJOck> SabdfL: the prOBlem is They didn't GeT Them to US, and we cAN'T bAbysIt all upstreams
<ScoTTK> SAbdfl: I think eveRy upstReAM kNOWs tHey Get more expOsUre if THey are aCUtALLY in THe distro.  That's Why I showed uP.
<SabDfl> thiS cOnvERsatioN is juSt CAtaLysed becausE i haPpen to carE about BEryl, but THe reallY imporTanT thIng iS To GeT a gOoD gENerAl frAMewOrk, that aPpLiEs to aLl paCKAGEs
<LaSerjock> i mean, i talke to PricechiLd alL The Time
<LAserJOck> hE nEver sAid anyThing
<laSerJock> he's in herE quiTe often
<siStpOtY> saBdFl: yep, BUt we as MotUs oBviouslY didn't mAKe iT a PRIOrIty
<sabdfl> and he coulD sAY YoU never saId anytHInG
<sTGraber> jdOnG: ok, i gueSS It wilL morE LiKely end wIth a : fiXEd In feisty pLeAse upgRaDe oNce feistY Will Be releAsed
<lupiNe_85> QueSTion. Can one have TWo Maintainers: FIeLDS iN A conTroL file?
<LaserJOck> I'VE seeN lupINe_85 A faIR amouT
<sabdFl> IT's EAsy for both sides to saY "tHose guYs don'T get it"
<jdong> stGraber: not nECESsarily; sOmeoNE jUSt has to isolate The paTch that fixES the probLem
<saBdfl> and i'M saying thAT For MOTU, fIguRinG ouT hoW TO bE a really rockiNG AttrAcTive plaCe fOr upstrEamS is A GReAT WaY to expand The pooloF tAlEnT hEre
<laserjOck> lupinE_85: yOu cAn HavE UploADers: or A mailIng lIsT oR SomEthing fOR MAINtaiNeR:
<lUpinE_85> ok
* LuPine_85 lEaveS As-iS for now
<Sabdfl> i'm vEry GLad tO bE hAving thIs
<jdong> stgrabEr
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<sabdfl> they have the ir own rep os, t hey  ar epubl ishi ng the package s , us ers are getting them,what' st he p r ob lem?<jdong> st g r abe r:  l ook sl ik e one  sh ould di ff RELEASE 1 a nd  RELEASE2 an d  i solate the  pa tch, SRU it<sa bdfl>si stp o ty: s ome one o ut the r e care s about a lm o st any littlep a ck ages 
<LaserJock> sabd f l: the problem is  theydi d n' t get  th em to us,an d wec an't ba b ys i t all upstreams
<Sc ottK> sabdf l : I  think  e ver y  upstr eam k no w s t hey get mor e ex posure if  theya re acut a lly inthe di str o. Tha t 's  w hyIs how e dup. <sa bdfl> th is  c onver sati o n i s ju stcata lysed  because i ha ppe n to car e abo ut be ryl,  b ut th e real ly im po rtant thing isto g et a good  GE NE RAL  f ramew o rk, th atapp lies to  all pa c kag es < L as erJock> I mean, Ita l k eto Price Childa ll  t h e time
< La ser Jock > he ne vers ai d anythi ng
<La s er Jo ck> he' sin her equi teoften <sis tpoty>  sabdfl:  yep, but we as motu s  obviously di d n' t ma k e it  apriority
<s abdf l > an d he co uld say y ou ne ve r  s a id anything
<stgrab er > jdon g: ok , I guess itwill morel i k ely endwith a:  fixed in Feis ty pl ease upgra d e once F eisty  will be  released < lupine_8 5>Que sti on. C an  one have two M aint ai ners: f iel ds in a  co ntr olfil e? 
<LaserJo ck> I've  s ee nlu pin e_85a  fair am ou t
< sa bdf l> it ' s easy  forboth  s id e s t o say " t ho s e  guy sdo n'tget  i t"
<j dong >  st graber:  not nece ssa r ily;  s om eone ju st has to iso la te the pat ch  th at fix e s  the pro blem
<sabdfl> and i'm s a ying th atfor M OTU,  figuring  ou t howtob e a re ally r ockin gatt r a ctive p la cefo r upstream s isa GRE AT  way  to exp and the poolof tal e nthere
<LaserJo ck>  lup i n e_ 85: yo u  ca nh ave U ploaders: or amailing li st or  something for  M aintain er:
<lu pine_ 8 5> ok
*  lupine_8 5 leavesas -isf o r n ow
<sabdfl > i'm ve ry glad t o  be h a vi ng th is<jdong >stg raber 
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<sabdfl>_they have_their own repos, they_are publishing_the_packages, users_are_getting them, what's_the problem?
<jdong> stgraber:_looks like one should_diff RELEASE1 and_RELEASE2_and isolate the patch, SRU it
<sabdfl> sistpoty: someone out there cares about almost any_little_packages
<LaserJock> sabdfl:_the_problem_is they didn't get them_to us, and we can't_babysit all_upstreams
<ScottK> sabdfl: I think every upstream knows they_get_more exposure if_they are acutally in the distro.  That's why_I showed up.
<sabdfl> this conversation is_just catalysed because_i_happen_to care about beryl,_but the really important thing is_to get a good GENERAL framework,_that applies to all packages
<LaserJock> I mean,_I talke to PriceChild all the_time
<LaserJock> he never said anything
<LaserJock>_he's in_here quite often
<sistpoty> sabdfl: yep,_but we as_motus obviously_didn't make it_a priority
<sabdfl> and he could say_you never said_anything
<stgraber> jdong: ok, I guess it_will_more likely end_with_a_: fixed_in Feisty please_upgrade_once Feisty_will_be released
<lupine_85> Question. Can one have_two_Maintainers: fields in a control file?
<LaserJock> I've_seen lupine_85 a fair_amout
<sabdfl>_it's easy for both_sides to say "those guys_don't get it"
<jdong> stgraber: not necessarily;_someone just_has to_isolate the patch that fixes the problem
<sabdfl> and i'm saying that_for MOTU, figuring out how to_be a really rocking_attractive place_for_upstreams is a_GREAT_way to_expand the poolof talent here
<LaserJock> lupine_85: you_can have_Uploaders: or a mailing list or_something for Maintainer:
<lupine_85> ok
*_lupine_85_leaves as-is for now
<sabdfl> i'm very_glad to be having this
<jdong> stgraber