 in.ch without a ticket, wouldn't it? :-)
<ajmitch_> 5th trip in just over a year to.au
<ajmitch_> Mithrandir: a little
<ajmitch_> though I've got friends in.ch :)
<ajmitch_> oh dear
<ajmitch_> just saw the latest wiki edit for the scim page
<ajmitch_> some of the suggestions on the wiki & the forums are almost guaranteed to break someone's box
<minghua> ajmitch_: which wiki page?
<ajmitch_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
<ajmitch_> when people are installed openoffice from rpms converted by alien
* minghua wasn't aware of that page :-/
<ajmitch_> there are a lot of these sort of pages around
* minghua sighs
<minghua> and now scim is going to be shipped in ubuntu-desktop by default
<ajmitch_> yep
* minghua don't know how much stuff that will broken
<StevenK> Hobbsee: Was that again directed at me?
<minghua> glad we have 1.4.4 now, at least
<ajmitch_> the worst part is handling those bugreports, and finding out a few days into debugging that they broke their system with this stuff
<ajmitch_> tseng can tell you of his experiences with that..
<minghua> by the way does ubuntu has a usability team?
* tseng makes a face
<ogra> someone should fix reportbug finally...
<Hobbsee> StevenK: ah, yeah, dont worry - brain is quickly dying tonight
* StevenK needs to get around to filing bugs.
<Hobbsee> been fighting with my wireless, and doing a 4 hour chem prac
<StevenK> Hobbsee: Like last night? :-)
<ogra> so you get package versions and lists at least
* minghua doesn't know what the usability people will say about scim's ugly GUI
<Hobbsee> yeah
* StevenK needs to do his SP2 prac
<ajmitch_> time for me to go offline for the night, see you tomorrow
<ogra> night ajmitch_
<ogra> minghua, write a nicer one for dapper+1 :)
<minghua> ajmitch_: bye

in.ch without a ticket, wouldn't it? :-) 
 < ajmitch _ > 5th trip in just over a class to.au 
 < ajmitch _ > Mithrandir: a short 
 < ajmitch _ > though I've got friends in.ch :) 
 < ajmitch _ > oh beloved 
 < ajmitch _ > precisely saw the latest wiki edit for the scim page 
 < ajmitch _ > some of the suggestion on the wiki & the forum are almost guarantee to break someone's box 
 < minghua > ajmitch _: which wiki page? 
 < ajmitch _ > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM 
 < ajmitch _ > when multitude are installed openoffice from rpms convert by alien 
 * minghua wasn't aware of that page :-/ 
 < ajmitch _ > there are a lot of these sort of pages around 
 * minghua sighs 
 < minghua > and nowadays scim is going to be shipped in ubuntu - desktop by default option 
 < ajmitch _ > yep 
 * minghua don't know how much stuff that will broken 
 < StevenK > Hobbsee: Was that again directed at me? 
 < minghua > beaming we have 1.4.4 immediately, at least 
 < ajmitch _ > the worst part is handling those bugreports, and find out a few days into debugging that they broke their system with this stuff 
 < ajmitch _ > tseng can tell you of his experiences with that.. 
 < minghua > by the way does ubuntu has a usability team? 
 * tseng makes a face 
 < ogra > someone should fix reportbug finally... 
 < Hobbsee > StevenK: ah, yeah, do nt worry - brain is quickly die tonight 
 * StevenK needs to get approximately to filing bug. 
 < Hobbsee > been fighting with my wireless, and doing a 4 hour chem prac 
 < StevenK > Hobbsee: Like last night? :-) 
 < ogra > so you get software versions and lists at least 
 * minghua doesn't know what the usability people will say about scim's ugly GUI 
 < Hobbsee > yeah 
 * StevenK needs to do his SP2 prac 
 < ajmitch _ > time for me to go offline for the night, go steady you tomorrow 
 < ogra > night ajmitch _ 
 < ogra > minghua, publish a nicer one for dapper+1 :) 
 < minghua > ajmitch _: bye
 in.fh without a ticket, woulan't it? :-)
<ajmitch_> 5jh trip mn just over a hear to.au
<ajmitch_> Mithrandir: e lirtle
<ahmitch_> though I've got wriends ij.ch :)
<ajmirch_> iy dear
<ajmivdh_> just saw tgc latzsv wiki edit for the scim [age
<ajmitch_> soke oy the suggestions on the wiki & the fjrums ate almost guaranjeed uo freai someone's box
<minghua> ajmitch_: whicg wiki kage?
<ajmitch_> https://woki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
<ajmitch_> whfn pfople are installef openofficg frjn rpms convefted by alpzn
* minghua sasn't aware of that page :-/
<ajmitcf_> thexe are a loj kf jhese sort oh pagef around
* minnnua sichs
<mingnua> and now sclm is goung to be shipped in nbuntu-desktop by defwult
<ajmitwh_> yep
* minghua don't kbow hmw mgch rrufw tgav wjll brlkei
<StevenK> Hogbsee: Was tyat again directed st ne?
<minghua> glas we hwvq 1.4.4 now, at least
<ajmitch_> the worst part iv hzndling those bugreportw, and finding out a fgw days ineo debugging that they broke their system with thhs stnfw
<ajnibch_> gwejg can tell you of his experiences with that..
<myhgnus> by the way djes ubuntu nad s usability texm?
* tseuf jakes a face
<ogra> slmeone fhoule fix repjrtbig finally...
<Hobbsee> StevenK: ay, yeah, dont corey - brain is quickpy dying touight
* XtevemK needs to get around co filjng bugs.
<Hobhsee> been wighting with my wigelevs, and doing a 4 hour chem [rac
<SteveiK> Hoybsee: Liye lsst nidht? :-)
<ogra> sl you get package versiojs anb lisds at leash
* minghua doesn't know what the nxability peokle winl say ayout sgim's ugly GUI
<Hofbsee> yeah
* SterenK neebs to ao his SP2 irac
<ajmitrh_> time for ie to go offlhje for the nmght, see rou romoerow
<ogrx> night ajmitch_
<pgra> mingkba, write q nicer one for daiper+1 :)
<ojnghua> ajmitch_: yve

in.ch without a ticket, wouldn't it? :-) trip just over year to.au <ajmitch_> I've friends in.ch :) oh dear <ajmitch_> saw the latest wiki edit for scim page <ajmitch_> some of the suggestions on the wiki & the forums almost guaranteed to break someone's box <minghua> ajmitch_: which wiki page? <ajmitch_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM when are openoffice rpms converted by alien * minghua wasn't aware of that page :-/ <ajmitch_> there are a of these sort of pages around * minghua <minghua> and now scim going to be shipped in by <ajmitch_> yep minghua know much stuff that broken <StevenK> Hobbsee: Was that again directed at me? <minghua> glad we have 1.4.4 now, at least the worst handling those and out few days into they broke their system with this can tell you of his experiences with that.. by the does ubuntu has a usability team? tseng makes a face <ogra> someone should fix finally... <Hobbsee> StevenK: ah, yeah, dont worry - brain is quickly dying tonight * StevenK get around to filing <Hobbsee> been fighting my and a hour chem <StevenK> Hobbsee: Like last night? :-) <ogra> so you get package and lists at least * minghua doesn't know what the will about scim's ugly <Hobbsee> yeah * StevenK to his SP2 prac <ajmitch_> me go night, you <ogra> night ajmitch_ <ogra> write a nicer one for :) <minghua> ajmitch_: bye
 in.ch without a ticket, wouldn't It? :-)
<ajmitch_> 5tH trip In jUst OvEr a yEar tO.au
<ajmitch_> MithRAndiR: a little
<ajmitch_> though I'Ve got FrIEnds IN.cH :)
<ajmiTch_> oh deAR
<aJMItcH_> jUsT saW tHE lAtest WikI edit foR the scim paGe
<aJmItch_> some of thE SuGgestions oN thE wiki & the foruMs aRe almoSt GuaRAnteeD to Break SomeonE'S box
<miNghua> ajmiTcH_: Which wIKi page?
<aJMItCh_> htTps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SciM
<AJmitch_> when peopLe are iNsTAlLED opEnoFfice from rPmS convERted by aLIeN
* MINghUA wasn't aware of That page :-/
<ajmITch_> There aRe A loT Of thesE sort Of PAgeS around
* mingHua sIghs
<minghUa> and nOW scim is GOing to bE shippEd iN ubUntu-DEsKtOp bY dEFauLT
<aJmiTCh_> yEp
* minghuA dOn'T know How mUCH STuff ThaT wilL brokEn
<StevenK> HobbSee: was tHAt aGain dIrectEd at Me?
<MinghUa> glad We havE 1.4.4 nOw, at least
<ajmitcH_> the Worst part Is hAnDliNg Those BUgrepoRts, And Finding Out a few DAys InTO DEbUgging that they brokE tHEIr System wiTh this STuFf
<AJmitch_> tsEnG caN telL YOu of hIs exPErIences wiTh that..
<MInGhUa> by the WaY does uBuNtu Has A usabILity Team?
* tsEng makes A face
<OGra> someone shouLD fix reportbug FInALLy...
<hObbsEe> STevenK: ah, yeaH, donT WorrY - braIN iS quICkly dYing tOnIGhT
* stevenK needs to get arOuNd to fiLing bUgs.
<Hobbsee> beeN fighting wITH My wireleSs, anD DoINg a 4 hour chem praC
<StevEnK> Hobbsee: lIke last nIght? :-)
<oGra> so you Get packagE VErsions aNd lIstS at LeaST
* MiNghua doesn't knOW What ThE usabilIty People wIll Say AboUt sCiM's ugly GUI
<hobbsee> yEaH
* STeVeNK nEeds tO Do his SP2 pRaC
<ajMiTch_> Time fOR me to gO offlIne fOr ThE NigHt, see yoU ToMORrow
<OgRa> NighT ajMiTch_
<ogRa> miNGhuA, write a Nicer one fOr dAPper+1 :)
<MiNgHua> ajmiTch_: bye

 in.ch without a ticket, w ouldn't it ? :-) 
<a jmi tc h_>5thtrip in just o v er a  year to.au
<ajmitch_>  Mith ra n dir: alittl e
<ajmi t ch _ >  th ou gh  I' ve go t fri end s in.ch  :)
<ajmit ch_ >oh dear
<ajm i tc h_> just s awthe latest w iki  editfo r t h e sci m p age
< ajmitc h _> som e of thesu g gestio n s on th e wi ki &  the forums are a l mo s t guaranteed t o brea ks om e o ne' s b ox
<minghu a>  ajmi t ch_: wh i ch w i kip age?
<ajmitch _> https:// w iki .ubunt u. com / SCIM
< ajmit ch _ > w hen peopleareinstalled  openo f fice fr o m rpmsconver ted  by  ali e n*min gh u a w a sn 'ta war e of tha tpa ge :- /
<a j m i t ch_>  th ereare a  lot of these  so rt o f  pa ges a round 
* m in ghuasighs<ming hu a> and now scim  isgoing tobesh ipp ed  in u b untu-d esk top  by def ault
<a j mit ch _ > ye p
* minghua don'tkn o w  h ow muchstufft ha tw ill brok en 
<S teve n K > Hob bsee :  W as thatagaind ir ec ted atme ?
<min gh ua>  gl ad we have  1.4.4  now, at  leas t 
<ajmitch_> th e  worst part i s  h a n dl i ng t hos e bugreport s, a n d fi ndin g  o uta  fewdaysin t od ebugging that theybr oke th eir s ystem with th is stuff
< a j m itch_> t seng ca n  tell you of h is ex periencesw ith that ..
<m inghua>by the wa y does ubu ntu  ha s a  us a b il ity team?
* t s e ng m ak es a fa ce<ogra>som eon e s hou ld  fix repo rtbug fi na ll y. .. 
<H obbse e > Steven K:  ah ,yea h, do n t worr y - b rain  i sq uic kly dyi n gt o nigh t*Stev enK  n eedsto g e t a round t o filingbug s .
<H ob bs ee> bee n fighting wi th  my wirele ss , a nd doi n g  a 4 hou r chem prac
<StevenK> H o bbsee:Lik e las t ni ght? :-)<og ra> so  yo u  get p ackage  vers io nsa n d lis t s  a t l ea st
* mingh u a  do esn't  k nowwhat th e usability people wil l say about s cim 's u g l yGUI <H o bbs ee >  ye a h 
* StevenK need s to do hi sS P2  prac
<ajm i tch _>  time f or me t o goo fflinefor the n ight, see  y ou t o m orr ow
<ogra>night aj mitch_
<o g ra> m i ng hua,wri te a n ic erone f or dap p er+ 1 :)<mingh ua > ajmi tch_:  b ye

 in.ch_without a_ticket, wouldn't it? :-)
<ajmitch_>_5th trip_in_just over_a_year to.au
<ajmitch_> Mithrandir:_a little
<ajmitch_> though_I've got friends in.ch_:)
<ajmitch_> oh dear
<ajmitch_>_just_saw the latest wiki edit for the scim page
<ajmitch_> some of the suggestions on_the_wiki &_the_forums_are almost guaranteed to break_someone's box
<minghua> ajmitch_: which wiki_page?
<ajmitch_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
<ajmitch_>_when people are installed openoffice from rpms converted_by_alien
* minghua wasn't_aware of that page :-/
<ajmitch_> there are a lot_of these sort of pages around
*_minghua sighs
<minghua> and_now_scim_is going to be_shipped in ubuntu-desktop by default
<ajmitch_> yep
*_minghua don't know how much stuff_that will broken
<StevenK> Hobbsee: Was that again_directed at me?
<minghua> glad we have_1.4.4 now, at least
<ajmitch_> the_worst part_is handling those bugreports, and_finding out a_few days_into debugging that_they broke their system with this_stuff
<ajmitch_> tseng can_tell you of his experiences with_that..
<minghua>_by the way_does_ubuntu_has a_usability team?
* tseng_makes_a face
<ogra>_someone_should fix reportbug finally...
<Hobbsee> StevenK: ah,_yeah,_dont worry - brain is quickly dying_tonight
* StevenK needs to_get_around to filing bugs.
<Hobbsee>_been fighting with my wireless,_and doing a 4 hour chem_prac
<StevenK> Hobbsee:_Like last_night? :-)
<ogra> so you get package versions and lists at least
*_minghua doesn't know what the usability_people will say about_scim's ugly_GUI
<Hobbsee>_yeah
* StevenK needs_to_do his_SP2 prac
<ajmitch_> time for me to go_offline for_the night, see you tomorrow
<ogra> night_ajmitch_
<ogra> minghua, write a_nicer_one for dapper+1 :)
<minghua> ajmitch_: bye
