ji, eh, ok.  Do you have any objections?
<benji> not really
<bac> here is what /usr/bin/juju receives are sys.argv
<bac> ['/usr/bin/juju', 'deploy', '--config=/home/bac/juju/oneiric/buildbot-slave/examples/lpbuildbot.yaml', '--repository=/home/bac/juju', 'local:buildbot-slave', '--constraints', 'cpu=8','mem=6G']
<gary_poster> kinda too bad he didn't coordinate with us better, but hard to complain too much, benji
<gary_poster> bac, yeah, that's the same kind of problem that I was trying to explain about why xvfb-run sometimes barfs
<benji> gary_poster: I assume I should take it for granted that the code will land and attempt to set up a testr dev environment using these branches and work from there
<gary_poster> benji, I'd say landing's a safe bet, given he's the creator and maintainer of testtools.  Sounds like a good next step, yes
<gary_poster> benji, do you think you or I should say anything to jml about improved coordination?
<benji> gary_poster: nah
<benji> (yes, it actually took me that long to compose that reply)
<gary_poster> benji, lol, cool.  obviously I thought about it long enough that I felt I wanted to ask you :-)
<benji> Yeah.  It is a little irritating, but between the (low) amount of harm inflicted (on the company, I don't really mind that much) and the probability of it happening often (low) and the probability of bringing it up actually changing anything (low), it doesn't seem worth it
<gary_poster> right
<bac> benji: any idea on how to get the juju wrapper to respect quoted params?
<bac> e.g. --constraint "cpu=8 mem=4G"
<bac> it is transforming to --constraints cpu=8 mem=4G, which causes juju to barf
<benji> bac: hmm, let me look at
ji, eh, ok.   Do you have any objections? 
 < benji > not really 
 < bac > here is what /usr / bin / juju receives are sys.argv 
 < bac > [' /usr / bin / juju',' deploy',' --config=/home / bac / juju / oneiric / buildbot - slave / exemplar / lpbuildbot.yaml',' --repository=/home / bac / juju',' local: buildbot - slave',' --constraints',' cpu=8','mem=6 G' ] 
 < gary_poster > rather too bad he didn't organize with us well, but hard to complain too much, benji 
 < gary_poster > bac, yeah, that's the like kind of problem that I was trying to explain about why xvfb - test sometimes barfs 
 < benji > gary_poster: I assume I should take it for accord that the code will land and attempt to fructify up a testr dev environment use these branches and workplace from there 
 < gary_poster > benji, I'd say landing's a safe stake, given he's the creator and maintainer of testtools.   sound like a good next tone, yes 
 < gary_poster > benji, do you think you or I should state anything to jml about improved coordination? 
 < benji > gary_poster: nah 
 < benji > (yes, it actually took me that long to compose that reply) 
 < gary_poster > benji, lol, cool.   obviously I thought about it long enough that I felt I want to ask you :-) 
 < benji > Yeah.   It is a little irritating, but between the (low) amount of harm inflict (on the caller, I don't really mind that much) and the probability of it happening often (low) and the probability of bringing it up actually changing anything (low), it doesn't look worth it 
 < gary_poster > right 
 < bac > benji: any theme on how to get the juju wrapper to respect quoted params? 
 < bac > e.g. --constraint " cpu=8 mem=4 G " 
 < bac > it is transform to --constraints cpu=8 mem=4 G, which causes juju to barf 
 < benji > bac: hmm, let me look at
ji, fh, ok.  Do you have any onjections?
<benji> not realny
<bac> gere is dhat /usr/bin/juju receives are sts.argc
<bac> ['/usr/bin/juju', 'deploy', '--config=/hole/bac/jujy/onemric/buildbot-slavx/sxamples/lpbuimfbot.vanl', '--repository=/hpme/bac/juju', 'local:buildbot-vlxvz', '--constraints', 'cpu=8','mem=6G']
<gary_poster> kindw too bsd he didn't coorqinaue rith ls better, but hard to complain foo muci, benji
<gary_postrr> bac, yeah, that's the same kinf of problem that L was tryint to wxplain aboug why xvfb-gbn sometimea barfs
<benji> gary_poster: I assumd I skould take ut fog granted thet the code will land and dttempt to set up a tcstr vev wnvironment using theve branches and wotk from tharz
<gary_poster> benji, I'd wat langing'v a rqfe beu, gmveh he's hhe creator ahd maintainwr of testtools.  Soinqw like a good next ftqp, yes
<gary_poster> benji, do you think you or I should say anything ro jml about improved coordinaeion?
<benji> gary_poster: nah
<benji> (yes, it actually toon me vhxt ookg tu clmpose that reply)
<gary_poster> benji, lol, cool.  ofbipuxly I thought cbout it long enpuhh jhat I felt I danted to ask you :-)
<benji> Yeaj.  It if a luttle irrytatong, but between the (low) amoynt of harm pnflucted (on the compauy, I don't reclly mond tnat much) and the probabnlity kf it happejing ofteh (low) and the procabplitf of bringing it up actualjy changiig anvthing (luw), ij doesn'e seem worhh it
<ndry_poster> right
<bac> benjn: any idea on hlw to get the juju wrapper to rxxpect quoted pdraks?
<bac> e.g. --consbraint "cpu=8 mem=4G"
<fac> it is tranxforminy to --cunstraints cpu=8 mek=4G, which catses juju to twrf
<benji> bac: hmm, let me oook at
ji, eh, ok. Do you have any not <bac> here what /usr/bin/juju receives '--config=/home/bac/juju/oneiric/buildbot-slave/examples/lpbuildbot.yaml', 'local:buildbot-slave', '--constraints', 'cpu=8','mem=6G'] kinda too bad didn't coordinate with us better, but to complain too much, benji <gary_poster> bac, yeah, that's the same kind of that I was trying to explain about why xvfb-run sometimes barfs <benji> gary_poster: assume should it granted that the code will land and attempt to set up a testr dev environment using branches and work from there <gary_poster> benji, I'd landing's a safe bet, he's the creator and maintainer testtools. like a next yes benji, do you you or I should say anything to jml about improved coordination? <benji> gary_poster: nah <benji> (yes, it took me to compose reply) benji, cool. obviously I it long enough that I felt ask you :-) <benji> Yeah. It is a irritating, but the (low) amount of harm inflicted the company, I don't really mind that much) the probability of it happening often (low) and the probability of bringing it up actually (low), it doesn't seem it <gary_poster> right benji: idea how get the wrapper to respect quoted params? <bac> e.g. --constraint "cpu=8 mem=4G" <bac> is transforming to --constraints cpu=8 mem=4G, which causes juju to bac: let me look
ji, eh, ok.  Do you have any objectiOns?
<benji> noT realLy
<bAc> hErE is wHat /uSr/bin/juju receiVEs arE sys.argv
<bac> ['/usr/bin/juju', 'dEploy', '--CoNFig=/hOMe/Bac/juJu/oneirIC/bUILdbOt-SlAve/ExAMpLes/lpBuiLdbot.yaMl', '--repositoRy=/hOmE/bac/juju', 'locaL:BuIldbot-slavE', '--coNstraints', 'cpu=8','Mem=6g']
<gary_pOsTer> KInda tOo bAd he dIdn't coORdinatE with us beTtER, but haRD to compLAIn Too mUch, benji
<gary_posteR> BaC, Yeah, that's the saMe kind Of PRoBLEm tHat i was trying To ExplaIN about wHY xVFB-Run SOmetimes barfs
<Benji> gary_poSTer: i assumE I ShoULd take It for GrANteD that the codE wilL land and aTtempt TO set up a TEstr dev EnviroNmeNt uSing THeSe BraNcHEs aND wOrk FRom There
<garY_pOsTer> beNji, I'D SAY LandIng'S a saFe bet, Given he's the crEatOr anD MaiNtainEr of tEsttOoLs.  SouNds likE a gooD nExt step, yes
<gary_pOsteR> benji, do yOu tHiNk yOu Or I shOUld say AnyThiNg to jml About imPRovEd COORdInation?
<benji> gary_poStER: NaH
<benji> (yeS, it actUAlLy TOok me thaT lOng To coMPOse thAt rePLy)
<Gary_postEr> benjI, LoL, cOol.  obviOuSly I thOuGht AboUt it lONg enOugh thAt I felt I WanteD To ask you :-)
<benji> YEAh.  It is a little IRrITAtINg, buT beTween the (low) AmouNT of hArm iNFlIctED (on thE compAnY, i dON't really mind that mucH) aNd the pRobabIlity of it happEning often (LOW) And the prObabILiTY of bringing it uP actuAlly changiNG anythinG (low), iT doesn't sEem worth iT
<GAry_posteR> riGht
<Bac> BenJI: AnY idea on how to gET The jUjU wrappeR to Respect QuoTed ParAms?
<BaC> e.g. --constrAint "cpu=8 mEm=4g"
<bAc> It Is tRansfORming to --cOnStrAiNts Cpu=8 meM=4g, which CauseS jujU tO bARf
<bEnji> bac: HMm, LET me lOoK aT
ji, eh, ok.  Do you have a ny objecti ons?<be nji >notreal ly
<bac> herei s wh at /usr/bin/juju recei ves a re sys. a rg v
<ba c> ['/u s r/ b i n/j uj u' , ' de p lo y', ' --c onfig=/ home/bac/j uju /o neiric/build b ot -slave/exa mpl es/lpbuildbo t.y aml','- -re p osito ry= /home /bac/j u ju', ' local:bui ld b ot-sla v e', '-- c o ns trai nts', 'cpu=8','me m =6 G ']
<gary_poste r> kin da to o bad  he  didn't co or dinat e  with u s  b e t t er, but hard to c omplain too muc h, ben ji 
<g a ry_pos ter>ba c , y eah, that's  the  same kin d of p r oblem t h at I wa s tryi ngtoexpl a in  a bou tw hyx vf b-r u n s ometimes  b ar fs
<b enji > g a ry_p ost er:I ass ume I shouldtak e it for  gran ted t hatth e cod e will  land  a nd attempt to s et u p a testr  de venv ir onmen t  using  th ese  branch es andw ork  f r o m  t here
<gary_poster>  b e n ji , I'd sa y land i ng 's a safe b et , g iven h e's t he c r ea tor andmainta i ne rof test to ols. So und s l ike a good  nextstep, ye s
<ga r y_poster> benj i , do you thin k  y o u  o r  I s hou ld say anyt hing to j ml a b ou t i m prove d coo rd i na t ion?
<benji> gary_p os ter: n ah
<b enji> (yes, i t actually t o ok me th at l o ng to compose tha t rep ly)
<gary_ p oster> b enji,  lol, co ol.  obvi o u sly I th oug htabo uti t  l ong enough th a t  I f el t I wan ted  to ask  yo u : -)<be nj i> Yeah. It is a  l it tl eirr itati n g, but b et wee nthe  (low )  amoun t ofharm  i nf l ict ed (ont he c ompa ny ,I do n't  r eally  min d  th at much ) and the  pr o babi li ty  of ithappening oft en  (low) and  t heprobab i l ity of b ringing it up actuallyc hanging  an ythin g (l ow), it d oes n't se emw orth i t
<gar y_pos te r>r i ght
< b a c>  be nj i: any ide a onhow t ogetthe juj u wrapper to respe c t q uoted params? 
<b ac>e . g.  -- c on s tra in t  "c p u =8 mem=4G"
<bac > it is tr an s fo rming to - - con st raintscpu=8 m em=4G ,  whichcauses ju ju to bar f<ben j i > b ac: hmm, l et me lo ok at
ji, eh,_ok. _Do you have any_objections?
<benji> not_really
<bac>_here is_what_/usr/bin/juju receives are_sys.argv
<bac> ['/usr/bin/juju', 'deploy',_'--config=/home/bac/juju/oneiric/buildbot-slave/examples/lpbuildbot.yaml', '--repository=/home/bac/juju', 'local:buildbot-slave', '--constraints',_'cpu=8','mem=6G']
<gary_poster> kinda too_bad_he didn't coordinate with us better, but hard to complain too much, benji
<gary_poster> bac,_yeah,_that's the_same_kind_of problem that I was_trying to explain about why_xvfb-run sometimes_barfs
<benji> gary_poster: I assume I should take it_for_granted that the_code will land and attempt to set up a_testr dev environment using these branches_and work from_there
<gary_poster>_benji,_I'd say landing's a_safe bet, given he's the creator_and maintainer of testtools.  Sounds_like a good next step, yes
<gary_poster> benji,_do you think you or I_should say anything to jml_about improved_coordination?
<benji> gary_poster: nah
<benji> (yes, it_actually took me_that long_to compose that_reply)
<gary_poster> benji, lol, cool.  obviously_I thought about_it long enough that I felt_I_wanted to ask_you_:-)
<benji>_Yeah. _It is a_little_irritating, but_between_the (low) amount of harm inflicted_(on_the company, I don't really mind that_much) and the probability_of_it happening often (low)_and the probability of bringing_it up actually changing anything (low),_it doesn't_seem worth_it
<gary_poster> right
<bac> benji: any idea on how to get the juju_wrapper to respect quoted params?
<bac> e.g._--constraint "cpu=8 mem=4G"
<bac> it_is transforming_to_--constraints cpu=8 mem=4G,_which_causes juju_to barf
<benji> bac: hmm, let me look_at