 rules...
 * teward rereads, sees sniping at each other, calling each other rude, being overall generally non-supportive of a civil environment
<teward> ***In any case***
<teward> lets move on
<teward> and stop shooting at each other
<tsimonq2> teward: well sorrryyy...this sir was being really critical...I got defensive
<tsimonq2> teward: do you understand my point of view? :P
<flocculant> he possibly does - on the other hand I don't  :)
<flocculant> you really just need to chill out n -release
<flocculant> they don't need it and have a job to do - which DOES not include flavours
<flocculant> unless it's  changed - thanks tsimonq2
<pitti> knome, cyphermox: apport-retrace doesn't require dbgsym packages, it just tries to grab as many as it can; otherwise you'll end up with worse stack traces
<pitti> but if you e. g. have locally built debs with debug symbols already installed, that's fine
<balloons> Morning to you all
<cyphermox> pitti: I suppose I misspoke by saying apport-retrace, I meant apport in general and the requirement for up to date packages / not PPA packages
<pitti> cyphermox: ah, that's something completely different then :) requiring for up-to-date packages is a design decision, not really a bug
<cyphermox> I know
<pitti> there's a secret way to disable it if you must, but we really don't want to advertise this
 * pitti bbl
<wxl> flocculant: says who?
#ubuntu-quality 2016-11-01
<DiegoTc> Hi to all, if you could like to help in the Google Code In 2016 (GCI) this year as mentor, please help us adding your  task to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2016
#ubuntu-quality 2016-11-02
<nuclearbob> bdmurray: I
<nuclearbob> m working on adding flavor upgrade tests. I've got edubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, and x
rules... 
  * teward rereads, sees sniping at each other, call each early rude, being overall generally non - supportive of a civil environment 
 < teward > * * * In any case * * * 
 < teward > lashkar-e-taiba go on 
 < teward > and stop shooting at each early 
 < tsimonq2 > teward: well sorrryyy... this sir was being really critical... I got defensive 
 < tsimonq2 > teward: do you understand my detail of view? :P 
 < flocculant > he possibly does - on the other bridge player I don't   :) 
 < flocculant > you really just necessitate to chill out n -release 
 < flocculant > they don't need it and have a job to make - which DOES not include flavours 
 < flocculant > unless it's   changed - thanks tsimonq2 
 < pitti > knome, cyphermox: apport - retrace doesn't want dbgsym packages, it just tries to grab equally many as it can; otherwise you'll end up with bad stack traces 
 < pitti > but if you e. g. have locally built debutante with debug symbols already installed, that's fine 
 < balloons > Morning to you all 
 < cyphermox > pitti: I suppose I misspoke by say apport - retrace, I meant apport in general and the requirement for up to date packages / not PPA packages 
 < pitti > cyphermox: ah, that's something completely different then :) requiring for up - to - date packages is a design decisiveness, not truly a bug 
 < cyphermox > I sleep together 
 < pitti > there's a hidden way to disable it if you must, but we really don't want to advertise this 
  * pitti bbl 
 < wxl > flocculant: say who? 
 # ubuntu - quality 2016 - 11 - 01 
 < DiegoTc > Hi to all, if you could like to help in the Google Code In 2016 (GCI) this year as mentor, please avail us adding your   task to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2016 
 # ubuntu - quality 2016 - 11 - 02 
 < nuclearbob > bdmurray: I 
 < nuclearbob > m working on adding flavor ascent tests. I've got edubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, and x
 rupes...
 * teward rereads, sees sniping at eack other, callihg each uther rude, being overall genxraloy nob-supportive of a civil environmvnt
<teward> ***In eny case***
<teward> lxfs move on
<tewzvd> anb wtop shooting st each otver
<tsimonq2> tewdra: cell sorrryyy...this sir was being realjy critocwl...I got defensyve
<txymons2> teward: do you understand my poinf of vitw? :P
<flocculant> he lossibly does - on the otheg hajd I don't  :)
<flocculwnt> you reaoly tyst need to zhill out n -release
<flodculant> they don't need it and hxve a job to do - qhifv DOES not mncludv flavours
<flogbulant> gnless ot's  changed - bhankv twimonq2
<pitti> knome, cypiermox: apport-retrace doesn't raqbire dbgsym packages, ut just trias tu grxb zs mzny as it can; othersise you'll wnd up with worse suach traces
<pitti> gut if yju e. g. have locally built debs with deblg sgmbols already installee, that's fine
<balloons> Lorning tj you all
<cyphermox> pitti: I suppose I misspoke by vayinj xppirb-retfqcf, I meant apport in general and the requiremegf gog up to date packcges / not PPA pavkwgrf
<pitti> cypheroox: ah, thzt's something comppetely qiffeeent then :) reauiring for up-to-date packagws is a desiyn eecision, not reallv a bug
<cyphexmox> I know
<litti> there's a secret wcy to sisable it lf you muag, but we really aon'n watt to advertise this
 * pitty bbl
<wxl> hloccblant: sahs wno?
#ubuneu-quality 2016-11-01
<FiegoBw> Hi to all, if you coulb lika to help ln the Google Code In 2016 (GCI) this year as mentot, pneave help bs addlng your  task eo the wiki: htjps://wiki.ubbntu.coo/GoogleCodvIn2016
#ubuntu-xuality 2016-11-02
<nucjearbob> bdmurswy: I
<nuclearbmb> m worhing on qdding wuavor upgrade yests. I've got edububtu, kubuntu, lubuntm, and s
rules... * teward rereads, sees sniping at calling other rude, overall generally non-supportive ***In case*** <teward> lets on <teward> and shooting at each other <tsimonq2> teward: sorrryyy...this sir was being really critical...I got defensive <tsimonq2> teward: do you understand point of view? :P <flocculant> he possibly does - on the other hand don't <flocculant> really need to chill out n -release <flocculant> they don't need it and have a job to - which DOES not include flavours <flocculant> unless changed - thanks tsimonq2 knome, cyphermox: apport-retrace doesn't require packages, just tries grab many it can; otherwise end up with worse stack traces <pitti> but if you e. g. have locally built debs with symbols already fine <balloons> to all pitti: I suppose by saying apport-retrace, I meant apport the requirement for up to date packages / PPA packages cyphermox: ah, that's something completely different :) requiring for up-to-date packages is a design not really a bug <cyphermox> I know <pitti> there's a secret way to disable it must, but we really want to advertise * bbl flocculant: who? #ubuntu-quality <DiegoTc> Hi to all, if you could like to help in Google Code In 2016 (GCI) this year as mentor, please adding task to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2016 #ubuntu-quality 2016-11-02 <nuclearbob> I m working on adding tests. got and
 rules...
 * teward rereads, sees sniPing at each Other, CalLinG eAch oTher Rude, being overaLL genErally non-supportive of a Civil EnVIronMEnT
<tewaRd> ***In any CAsE***
<TEwaRd> LeTs mOvE On
<TewarD> anD stop shOoting at eaCh oThEr
<tsimonq2> tewARd: Well sorrryYy...tHis sir was beiNg rEally cRiTicAL...I got DefEnsivE
<tsimoNQ2> tewarD: do you undErSTand my POint of vIEW? :P
<FlocCulant> he possibly dOEs - ON the other hand I Don't  :)
<flOcCUlANT> yoU reAlly just neEd To chiLL out n -reLEaSE
<FLocCUlant> they don't Need it and haVE a jOb to do - WhIch doES not IncluDe FLavOurs
<flocculAnt> uNless it's  cHanged - THanks tsIMonq2
<pitTi> knomE, cyPheRmox: APpOrT-reTrACe dOEsN't rEQuiRe dbgsym PaCkAges, iT jusT TRIEs to GraB as mAny as It can; otherwisE yoU'll eND up With wOrse sTack TrAces
<pItti> buT if yoU e. G. have locally buiLt deBs with debUg sYmBolS aLreadY InstalLed, ThaT's fine
<bAlloons> mOrnInG TO YoU all
<cyphermox> pitti: i sUPPoSe I misspOke by sAYiNg APport-retRaCe, I MeanT APport In geNErAl and the RequirEMeNt For up to DaTe packAgEs / nOt PpA pacKAges
<Pitti> cYphermox: Ah, thaT'S something compLEtely differenT ThEN :) ReQUiriNg fOr up-to-date pAckaGEs is A desIGn DecISion, nOt reaLlY A bUG
<cyphermox> I know
<pittI> tHere's a SecreT way to disable It if you musT, BUT we reallY don'T WaNT to advertise thIs
 * pitTi bbl
<wxl> flOCculant: sAys whO?
#ubuntu-qUality 2016-11-01
<DieGOtc> Hi to alL, if You CouLd lIKE tO help in the GooGLE CodE IN 2016 (GCI) thiS yeAr as menTor, PleAse HelP uS adding yoUr  task to ThE wIkI: hTtpS://wiki.UBuntu.com/goOglECOdein2016
#ubuNTu-qualIty 2016-11-02
<nuCleaRbOb> BDmuRray: I
<nuCLeARBob> m WoRkIng oN adDiNg flaVor uPGraDe tests. i've got eduBunTU, kubUnTu, Lubuntu, And x
 rules...
 * teward reread s, sees sn iping  at  ea ch  oth er,calling each o t herrude, being overall ge neral ly non- s up porti ve of a ci v i l e nv ir onm en t 
< tewar d>***In a ny case*** 
<t ew ard> lets mo v eon
<teward > a nd stop shoo tin g at e ac h o t her
< tsi monq2 > tewa r d: wel l sorrryy y. . .thiss ir wasb e in g re ally critical...I go t  defensive
<ts imonq2 >t ew a r d:doyou unders ta nd my point o f  v i e w ? : P 
<flocculant>  he possibl y  do es - o nthe otherhandId on' t  :)
<floc cula nt> you r eallyj ust nee d  to chi ll out  n-re leas e 
< fl occ ul a nt> th eyd on' t need i tan d hav e aj o b to d o -  whi ch DO ES not includ e f lavo u rs<floc culan t> u nl ess i t's  c hange d- thanks tsimon q2
< pitti> kn ome ,cyp he rmox: apport -re tra ce does n't req u ire  d b g s ym  packages, it just  t r i es  to grab  as ma n yas it can;ot her wise y ou'll  end up  with wo rse st a ck  t races
< pi tti> b ut  if  yo u e.g . ha ve loc ally bui lt de b s with debug s y mbols already in s t al l ed,tha t's fine
<b allo o ns>Morn i ng  to you a ll
<c yp h er m ox> pitti: I suppos eI miss pokeby saying app ort-retrac e , I meantappo r ti n general andthe r equirement for up t o dat e packag es / notP P A packag es<pi tti > c y p he rmox: ah, tha t ' s so me thing c omp letelydif fer ent  th en  :) requi ring for  u p- to -d ate  pack a ges is a  d esi gn  de cisio n , notreall y abu g< cyp hermox> Ik n ow
< pi tt i> t her e' s a s ecre t  wa y to di sable itify ou m us t,  but we  really don't  w ant to adv er tis e this * pittibbl
<wxl> flocculant: s a ys who? 
#u buntu -qua lity 2016 -11 -01
<D ieg o Tc> Hi  to al l, if  y ouc o uld l i k etohe lp in theG o ogl e Cod eIn 2 016 (GC I) this year as me n tor , please help  us  add i n gyou r  t ask  t o  th e wiki: https://w iki.ubuntu .c o m/ GoogleCode I n20 16 
#ubunt u-quali ty 20 1 6-11-02 
<nuclear bob> bdmu rr ay:I <nu clearbob>m workin g on addi n g fla v or  upgr ade  tests .I'v e got  edubu n tu,  kubu ntu, l ub untu,and x 
 rules...
_* teward_rereads, sees sniping at_each other,_calling_each other_rude,_being overall generally_non-supportive of a_civil environment
<teward> ***In any_case***
<teward> lets move_on
<teward>_and stop shooting at each other
<tsimonq2> teward: well sorrryyy...this sir was being really critical...I_got_defensive
<tsimonq2> teward:_do_you_understand my point of view?_:P
<flocculant> he possibly does -_on the_other hand I don't  :)
<flocculant> you really_just_need to chill_out n -release
<flocculant> they don't need it and have_a job to do - which_DOES not include_flavours
<flocculant>_unless_it's  changed -_thanks tsimonq2
<pitti> knome, cyphermox: apport-retrace doesn't_require dbgsym packages, it just tries_to grab as many as it can;_otherwise you'll end up with worse_stack traces
<pitti> but if you_e. g._have locally built debs with_debug symbols already_installed, that's_fine
<balloons> Morning to_you all
<cyphermox> pitti: I suppose I_misspoke by saying_apport-retrace, I meant apport in general_and_the requirement for_up_to_date packages_/ not PPA_packages
<pitti>_cyphermox: ah,_that's_something completely different then :) requiring_for_up-to-date packages is a design decision, not_really a bug
<cyphermox> I_know
<pitti>_there's a secret way_to disable it if you_must, but we really don't want_to advertise_this
 *_pitti bbl
<wxl> flocculant: says who?
#ubuntu-quality 2016-11-01
<DiegoTc> Hi to all, if you_could like to help in the_Google Code In 2016_(GCI) this_year_as mentor, please_help_us adding_your  task to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2016
#ubuntu-quality_2016-11-02
<nuclearbob> bdmurray:_I
<nuclearbob> m working on adding flavor_upgrade tests. I've got_edubuntu,_kubuntu, lubuntu, and x