's possible
<racarr> Hobbsee: All workspaces have the exact same location in X coords, so when viewing the cube
<racarr> it's impossible to see windows on more than one workspace
<Hobbsee> that's crap.
<lupine_85> blame it on xorg ;)
<Amaranth> you also don't get windows wrapped around the cube if it uses workspaces
<Hobbsee> needs fixing.
<Amaranth> without ugly hacks
<racarr> Hobbsee: Yes, viewports are the fix
<Hobbsee> fix xorg then.
<imbrandon> *cough* ok can we get the lic and other issues done please, then take design convo to the proper place *cough* hehe
<Hobbsee> racarr: presumably not if they break non-beryl window managers?  although i know beryl's not technically a WM
<lupine_85> hehe. So b-s-s... are you working on that, racarr?
<racarr> lupine_85: Yeah just a few minutes and I'll commit
<lupine_85> Hobbsee: beryl is technically a WM, I'd say
<Amaranth> Hobbsee: beryl is a WM :)
<lupine_85> since it, erm, manages windows
<Hobbsee> ah, right.  not a DM
<Hobbsee> which was what i meant
<lupine_85> yeah
<lupine_85> KDE 3.5.6 has preliminary support for viewports
<racarr> Hobbsee: Well, they some things like taskbars, etc, but that ujst means taskbars need to be updated
<lupine_85> it's still not very good though
<Amaranth> it's a bug in the DE if it doesn't work with viewports
<lupine_85> gnome works fine
<lupine_85> KDE 4 will almost certainly work fine
<Hobbsee> lupine_85: ahh.
<Amaranth> lupine_85: only with me/davidr's patches
<racarr> GNOME in feisty works fine for me, is it prepatched?
<lupine_85> Amaranth: did they not go upstream
's possible 
 < racarr > Hobbsee: All workspaces have the exact like placement in X coords, so when viewing the block 
 < racarr > it's impossible to see window on more than one workspace 
 < Hobbsee > that's crap. 
 < lupine_85 > blame it on xorg ;) 
 < Amaranth > you also don't get down windows wrapped around the block if it use workspaces 
 < Hobbsee > need fixing. 
 < Amaranth > without ugly hack 
 < racarr > Hobbsee: Yes, viewports are the fix 
 < Hobbsee > fix xorg then. 
 < imbrandon > * cough * ok can we get the lic and other issues act please, then take design convo to the proper place * cough * hehe 
 < Hobbsee > racarr: presumably not if they pause non - beryl window managers?   although i know beryl's not technically a WM 
 < lupine_85 > hehe. thus b - s - s... are you working on that, racarr? 
 < racarr > lupine_85: Yeah just a few minutes and I'll commit 
 < lupine_85 > Hobbsee: beryl is technically a WM, I'd allege 
 < Amaranth > Hobbsee: beryl is a WM :) 
 < lupine_85 > since it, erm, manages windows 
 < Hobbsee > ah, right.   not a DM 
 < Hobbsee > which was what i meant 
 < lupine_85 > yeah 
 < lupine_85 > KDE 3.5.6 has preliminary support for viewports 
 < racarr > Hobbsee: Well, they some thing like taskbars, etc, but that ujst means taskbars need to be updated 
 < lupine_85 > it's still not very good though 
 < Amaranth > it's a bug in the DE if it doesn't work with viewports 
 < lupine_85 > gnome works fine 
 < lupine_85 > KDE 4 will almost surely exploit fine 
 < Hobbsee > lupine_85: ahh. 
 < Amaranth > lupine_85: entirely with me / davidr's patch 
 < racarr > GNOME in feisty works fine for me, is it prepatched? 
 < lupine_85 > Amaranth: did they not function upstream
's plssible
<racarr> Hobbsee: Alu workspaces harw the xxact szme locagion in X coords, so when viexing the xube
<racarr> it's impossicle to sev windows on nire than ois worksicce
<Hognsee> chet's crap.
<lupine_85> nlame it on xorg ;)
<Amaranth> yuu also don't get windows wrapped arougd the vuhe if it uses rorkx[acea
<Hobbsee> needs fixing.
<Amaranth> withkut uglj hacks
<racarr> Hobnsee: Yes, viewports are the fix
<Jobbsee> fix xorg tjen.
<imbrandob> *cotth* ok can we get the lpe and other issues done please, then take ddsign convo to jkw pgmper place *rough* rehe
<Hobbsee> vscarr: [resumanly not if then breek nin-beryl window managecs?  although i know feryl's nod cechnically a WM
<lupinw_85> yehe. Vo b-v-s... afw yuu sockihg on hhav, racarr?
<raczrr> lupine_85: Teah just a few minitqw and I'll comjit
<lupynq_85> Hobbsee: beryl is technically a WM, I'd vay
<Zmaranth> Hobbsee: beryl us a WM :)
<lupine_85> since lt, erm, magages windows
<Hobbsee> ah, right.  not a DM
<Hobbsee> whhch wes whcb k mfant
<lupine_85> yeah
<lupine_85> KDE 3.5.6 has preliminary su[lott for viewports
<vacarr> Hobbsee: Welk, hhri some things uike tcakgars, etc, but that kjst mewns tqskbars nted tp be updated
<lupine_85> it's stilo not very gjid though
<Amaranth> nt's a bug in the DE ig it doesn't work with vnewporfs
<lupine_85> gnlme works wine
<lupine_85> KDE 4 dilk dlmost ctftainly work fine
<Robbsee> lnpine_85: ahh.
<Amafantn> lupige_85: only wihh me/davidr's patches
<racagr> GNLMA in feistj works fine for me, is it prepavrhed?
<lupine_85> Amsrdntv: did thzy not go upstream
's possible <racarr> Hobbsee: All workspaces have same in X so when viewing to windows on more one workspace <Hobbsee> crap. <lupine_85> blame it on xorg <Amaranth> you also don't get windows wrapped around the cube if it uses <Hobbsee> needs fixing. <Amaranth> without ugly hacks <racarr> Hobbsee: Yes, viewports are the <Hobbsee> xorg <imbrandon> ok can we get the lic and other issues done please, then take design convo to proper place *cough* hehe <Hobbsee> racarr: presumably not they break non-beryl window although i know beryl's not a <lupine_85> hehe. b-s-s... you on that, racarr? lupine_85: Yeah just a few minutes and I'll commit <lupine_85> Hobbsee: beryl is technically a WM, I'd <Amaranth> Hobbsee: a WM <lupine_85> it, manages windows <Hobbsee> not a DM <Hobbsee> which was <lupine_85> yeah <lupine_85> KDE 3.5.6 has preliminary support viewports <racarr> Well, they some things like taskbars, but that ujst means taskbars need to be <lupine_85> it's still not very good though <Amaranth> it's a bug in the DE if work with viewports <lupine_85> works fine <lupine_85> 4 almost work <Hobbsee> lupine_85: <Amaranth> lupine_85: only with me/davidr's patches <racarr> GNOME in feisty works for me, is it prepatched? <lupine_85> Amaranth: did they not
's possible
<racarr> Hobbsee: All Workspaces Have tHe eXacT sAme lOcatIon in X coords, so WHen vIewing the cube
<racarr> it's ImposSiBLe to SEe WindoWs on morE ThAN One WoRkSpaCe
<hObBsee> tHat'S crap.
<luPine_85> blame iT on XoRg ;)
<Amaranth> yoU AlSo don't get wIndOws wrapped arOunD the cuBe If iT Uses wOrkSpaceS
<HobbsEE> needs Fixing.
<AmaRaNTh> withOUt ugly hACKs
<RacaRr> Hobbsee: Yes, viewpORtS Are the fix
<HobbsEe> fix xOrG ThEN.
<ImbRanDon> *cough* ok CaN we geT The lic aND oTHER isSUes done please, Then take desIGn cOnvo to ThE prOPer plaCe *couGh* HEhe
<hobbsee> racaRr: prEsumably nOt if thEY break nON-beryl wIndow mAnaGerS?  altHOuGh I knOw BEryL'S nOt tEChnIcally a Wm
<lUpIne_85> heHe. So B-S-S... ARe yoU woRkinG on thAt, racarr?
<racarR> luPine_85: yEah Just a Few miNuteS aNd I'll Commit
<LupinE_85> HObbsee: beryl is teChniCally a WM, I'D saY
<AMarAnTh> HobBSee: berYl iS a Wm :)
<lupine_85> Since it, ERm, mAnAGES wIndows
<Hobbsee> ah, rigHt.  NOT a dM
<HobbseE> which WAs WhAT i meant
<lUpIne_85> Yeah
<LUPine_85> KdE 3.5.6 haS PrEliminarY suppoRT fOr ViewporTs
<Racarr> hoBbsEe: WEll, thEY somE thingS like tasKbars, ETc, but that ujst mEAns taskbars neED tO BE uPDateD
<luPine_85> it's stilL not VEry gOod tHOuGh
<AMArantH> it's a BuG In THe DE if it doesn't work wItH viewpOrts
<lUpine_85> gnome worKs fine
<lupiNE_85> kdE 4 will alMost CErTAinly work fine
<HObbseE> lupine_85: ahh.
<aMaranth> lUpine_85: Only with Me/davidr's PATches
<racArr> gNOmE iN feISTy Works fine for mE, IS it pRePatched?
<LupIne_85> AmarAntH: diD thEy nOt Go upstreaM
's possible
<racarr> Hobbs ee: All wo rkspa ces  ha ve  the  exa ct same locati o n in  X coords, so when vie wingth e  cub e 
< racar r> it's im p o ssi bl etose e  w indow s o n morethan one w ork sp ace
<Hobbsee >  t hat's crap .
< lupine_85> b lam e it o nxor g  ;)
< Ama ranth > youa lso do n't get w in d ows wr a pped ar o u nd  the  cube if it usesw or k spaces
<Hobbse e> nee ds fi x i ng. 
<A maranth> w it houtu gly hac k s< r a car r > Hobbsee: Ye s, viewport s  ar e thefi x
< H obbsee > fix  x o rgthen.
<imbr ando n> *cough * ok c a n we ge t  the li c andoth erissu e sdo nepl e ase ,  t hen tak e design  c on vo to  the p r o perpla ce * cough * hehe
<Hobbs ee>  rac a rr:  pres umabl y no tif th ey bre ak no n- beryl window ma nage rs?  alth oug hi k no w ber y l's no t t ech nically  a WM
< l upi ne _ 8 5 >hehe. So b-s-s...ar e yo u workin g on t h at ,r acarr?
< ra car r> l u p ine_8 5: Y e ah  just afew mi n ut es  and I' ll  commi t<lu pin e_85> Hobb see: b eryl istechn i cally a WM, I' d  say
<Amarant h >H o bb s ee:ber yl is a WM:)
< l upin e_85 >  s inc e  it,erm,ma n ag e s windows
<Hobbsee>  a h, rig ht. not a DM
<Hob bsee> whic h w as whati me a nt <lupine_85> ye ah
<l upine_85>K DE 3.5.6  hasprelimin ary suppo r t  for vie wpo rts 
<r aca r r >Hobbsee: Well , they  s ome thi ngs  like t ask bar s,etc ,but thatujst mea ns  t as kb ars  need to be up da ted 
< lup ine_8 5 > it's  stil l no tve r y g ood tho u gh < Amar an th > it 'sabug i n th e  DE  if itdoesn't w ork with  v ie wports<lupine_85> g no me works f in e
< lupine _ 8 5> KDE 4  will almost certainlyw ork fin e
< Hobbs ee>lupine_85 : a hh.
<A mar a nth> l upine_ 85: o nl y w i t h me/ d a vi dr' spatches
<r a c arr > GNO ME  infeistyworks fine for me, isit prepatched ?
< lupi n e _8 5>A ma r ant h: did t hey not go upst ream
's possible
<racarr>_Hobbsee: All_workspaces have the exact_same location_in_X coords,_so_when viewing the_cube
<racarr> it's impossible_to see windows on_more than one_workspace
<Hobbsee>_that's crap.
<lupine_85> blame it on xorg ;)
<Amaranth> you also don't get windows wrapped around_the_cube if_it_uses_workspaces
<Hobbsee> needs fixing.
<Amaranth> without ugly_hacks
<racarr> Hobbsee: Yes, viewports are_the fix
<Hobbsee>_fix xorg then.
<imbrandon> *cough* ok can we get_the_lic and other_issues done please, then take design convo to the_proper place *cough* hehe
<Hobbsee> racarr: presumably_not if they_break_non-beryl_window managers?  although_i know beryl's not technically a_WM
<lupine_85> hehe. So b-s-s... are you_working on that, racarr?
<racarr> lupine_85: Yeah just_a few minutes and I'll commit
<lupine_85>_Hobbsee: beryl is technically a_WM, I'd_say
<Amaranth> Hobbsee: beryl is a_WM :)
<lupine_85> since_it, erm,_manages windows
<Hobbsee> ah,_right.  not a DM
<Hobbsee> which_was what i_meant
<lupine_85> yeah
<lupine_85> KDE 3.5.6 has preliminary_support_for viewports
<racarr> Hobbsee:_Well,_they_some things_like taskbars, etc,_but_that ujst_means_taskbars need to be updated
<lupine_85> it's_still_not very good though
<Amaranth> it's a bug_in the DE if_it_doesn't work with viewports
<lupine_85>_gnome works fine
<lupine_85> KDE 4_will almost certainly work fine
<Hobbsee> lupine_85:_ahh.
<Amaranth> lupine_85:_only with_me/davidr's patches
<racarr> GNOME in feisty works fine for me, is it_prepatched?
<lupine_85> Amaranth: did they not go_upstream