 quite articulate about this, is the large primarily middle-class gay and lesbian civil rights movement that is identified with the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, and with the groups that organize the marches on Washington, the big Christopher Street Stonewall march last year, whose goals have been assimilation into the mainstream of American society. And I would say this assimilative movement probably does represent the majority position, perhaps a little more loudly than all of the closeted gays and lesbians, who nonetheless would like to see these legal changes happen and continue to have their very quiet life undisturbed by any public scrutiny. The ACT UP and Queer Nation people – the whole queer movement – are really representing a position of remaining on the margins, continuing to have the somewhat romanticized view of the queer as the outlaw. That's what I think the struggle is and in that way I'd say it was a similar struggle to lesbian separatism in relation to the National Organization for Women, that would be a similar – perhaps an even more extreme difference. I find it frightening to think of a right-wing conservative majority lesbian and gay community which seems to be what he's suggesting. I don't think there is a right-wing majority community. Data from the 1994 election shows that self-identified lesbians and gays are disproportionately liberal. I think they voted about 73% Democrat in the election which is only exceeded as a voting block by African Americans and that while there are conservative Republican gays and a very, very few Republican lesbians, I think they are quite the minority. But the majority gay and lesbian movement would identify with the broad mainstream of centre, slightly left, politics as represented by the Democratic Party. And by implication, I think what you are saying is the more human rights, civil rights gains lesbians and gays achieve, the less radical we need to be. That would tend to hold, I think. If we set our goals as assimilation into the dominant society and we achieve those goals through legislation and court actions, then we have no need to take to the street, except in these large symbolic parades. They are not really political demonstrations and they now have the same equivalency as Saint Patrick's Day parade or something like that. However, I don't really think the majority is going to allow us to assimilate quite that easily, so there will always be a place for radical action and probably I think the 1994 election is a good illustration of this. What guarantees minority rights in a majority
quite articulate about this, is the large primarily middle - class homosexual and lesbian civil right field movement that is identified with the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, and with the group that mastermind the marches on Washington, the big Christopher Street Stonewall borderland last year, whose goal have been assimilation into the mainstream of American society. And I would read this assimilative movement credibly does represent the majority position, perhaps a little more loudly than all of the closeted gays and lesbian, who nonetheless would like to see these legal change happen and continue to have their very quiet animation undisturbed by any public scrutiny. The ACT UP and Queer Nation people – the whole queer movement – are in truth representing a position of remaining on the margins, continuing to have the somewhat romanticized view of the queer as the outlaw. That's what I think the struggle is and in that way I'd say it was a similar struggle to lesbian segregation in relation to the National Organization for Women, that would be a similar – possibly an even more extreme remainder. I receive it frightening to think of a correct - annex conservative majority lesbian and gay residential district which seems to be what he's suggesting. I don't think there is a right - wing majority community. Data from the 1994 election shows that self - identified lesbians and gays are disproportionately free. I think they vote about 73% Democrat in the election which is only exceeded as a voting block by African Americans and that while there are bourgeois Republican gays and a very, very few Republican lesbians, I think they are quite the minority. But the majority gay and lesbian campaign would identify with the broad mainstream of centre, slightly leave, politics as represented by the Democratic Party. And by significance, I think what you are saying is the more human right, civil rights gain lesbians and homosexual achieve, the less radical we need to be. That would tend to prevail, I think. If we set our goals as assimilation into the prevailing society and we achieve those goals through legislation and court action, then we have no need to take to the street, except in these large symbolic parade. They are not really political demonstrations and they immediately have the same equivalency as Saint Patrick's Day parade or something like that. However, I don't very think the majority is going to allow us to absorb quite that easily, so there will always be a place for radical action and probably I think the 1994 election is a good exemplification of this. What guarantee minority rights in a majority
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quite articulate about this, is the large gay lesbian civil movement that is and Task Force, and the groups that the marches on Washington, the big Street Stonewall march last year, whose goals have been assimilation into the mainstream American society. And I would say this assimilative movement probably does represent the position, a more than all of the closeted gays and lesbians, who nonetheless would like to see these legal happen and continue to have their very quiet undisturbed by any public The ACT UP and Queer people the whole movement are representing a position remaining on the margins, continuing to have the somewhat romanticized view of the queer as the outlaw. what I struggle is in way say it was struggle to lesbian separatism in relation Organization for Women, that would be a similar perhaps an more extreme difference. I find it to think of a right-wing conservative majority lesbian gay community which seems to be what he's suggesting. I don't think there is a community. Data from the election shows that lesbians gays disproportionately I think voted about 73% Democrat in the election which is only exceeded a voting block by African Americans and that while there Republican and a very, few Republican lesbians, I they quite the minority. But gay lesbian with broad of centre, slightly left, as represented by the Democratic And by implication, I is the more human rights, civil rights gains and gays achieve, the less radical we to be. That would tend to hold, I think. If we set goals as the dominant society and we achieve those goals legislation and court actions, we have no need to take to the street, in large symbolic They are not political demonstrations and now have the as Saint Day or However, I don't really think the is to allow us to assimilate that there will always be a place for radical action and probably I think the 1994 a good illustration of What minority rights in a majority
 quite articulate about this, iS the large pRimarIly MidDlE-claSs gaY and lesbian civIL rigHts movement that is identIfied WiTH the nAtIonal gay and LESbIAN TaSk foRce, AnD WiTh the GroUps that Organize thE maRcHes on WashingTOn, The big ChriStoPher Street StOneWall maRcH laST year, WhoSe goaLs have BEen assImilation InTO the maINstream OF amEricAn society. And I woulD SaY This assimilatiVe moveMeNT pROBabLy dOes represeNt The maJOrity poSItION, PerHAps a little morE loudly than ALl oF the clOsEteD Gays anD lesbIaNS, whO nonethelesS wouLd like to sEe thesE Legal chANges hapPen and ConTinUe to HAvE tHeiR vERy qUIeT liFE unDisturbeD bY aNy pubLic sCRUTIny. THe AcT UP And QuEer Nation peopLe – tHe whOLe qUeer mOvemeNt – arE rEally RepresEntinG a Position of remaiNing On the margIns, CoNtiNuIng to HAve the SomEwhAt romanTicized VIew Of THE QuEer as the outlaw. That'S wHAT I Think the StruggLE iS aND in that wAy i'd sAy it WAS a simIlar STrUggle to lEsbian SEpArAtism in ReLation To The natIonal oRganIzatioN for WomeN, that WOuld be a similar – PErhaps an even mORe EXTrEMe diFfeRence. I find iT friGHtenIng tO ThInk OF a rigHt-winG cONsERvative majority lesbIaN and gaY commUnity which seeMs to be what HE'S SuggestiNg. I dON't THink there is a riGht-wiNg majority COmmunity. data fRom the 1994 elEction shoWS That self-IdeNtiFieD leSBIaNs and gays are dISPropOrTionateLy lIberal. I ThiNk tHey VotEd About 73% DemoCrat in thE eLeCtIoN whIch is ONly exceeDeD as A vOtiNg bloCK by AfrIcan AMeriCaNs ANd tHat whilE ThERE are CoNsErvaTivE REpublIcan GAys And a verY, very few REpuBLicaN lEsBians, I tHink they are quItE the minoriTy. but The majORIty gay anD lesbian movement would idENtify wiTh tHe broAd maInstream oF ceNtre, slIghTLy left, PolitiCs as rEpResENTed by THE DEmoCrAtic Party. AND By iMplicAtIon, I Think whAt you are saying is thE MorE human rights, cIviL rigHTS gAinS LeSBiaNs ANd gAYS achieve, the less Radical we nEeD To Be. That woulD TenD tO hold, I tHink. If wE set oUR goals aS assimilaTion into tHe DomiNANt sOciety and wE achieve Those goalS ThrouGH lEgislAtiOn and cOuRt aCtionS, then wE HavE no neEd to taKe To the sTreet, ExCept in thEse large symbolic parades. they arE not rEalLy politicAl dEMonStrations And tHey now have The SamE equiValENcy as sainT paTriCK's Day ParaDE or somethINg LikE THaT. However, I doN'T REalLy thiNk tHE majorIty iS going to allow us to ASsimilate quite That EASilY, so THere WiLl always be a plaCe fOr RADical actIoN and probablY I think tHe 1994 ELectiOn is a gOod illUstratiON Of THis. WhaT guaRanTees minorIty RiGHts in a mAjOrITy
 quite articulate about th is, is the  larg e p rim ar ilymidd le-class gay a n d le sbian civil rights mov ement  t h at i s  i denti fied wi t ht h e N at io nal  G a yand L esb ian Tas k Force, a ndwi th the group s  t hat organi zethe marchesonWashin gt on, the b igChris topher Street  Stonewal lm arch l a st year , wh osegoals have been a s si m ilation into t he mai ns t re a m  of  Am erican soc ie ty. A n d I wou l ds a y  th i s assimilativ e movementp rob ably d oe s r e presen t the  m a jor ity positio n, p erhaps alittle more lo u dly tha n allofthe  clo s et ed  ga ys and le sbi a ns,  who non et he lesswoul d l i ke t o s ee t heselegal changes  ha ppen and  cont inueto h av e the ir ver y qui et  life undisturb ed b y any pub lic  s cru ti ny. T h e ACTUPand  QueerNationp eop le – th e whole queer move me n t  –  are rea lly re p re se n ting a p os iti on o f remai ning on  the mar gins,c on ti nuing t ohave t he  so mew hat r o mant icized  view of  theq ueer as the ou t law. That's w h at I  t h inkthe  struggle i s an d  inthat wa y I ' d say  it w as as imilar struggle tole sbiansepar atism in rela tion to th e N ationalOrga n iz a tion for Women , tha t would be a simila r – p erhaps a n even mo r e  extreme  di ffe ren ce. I  f ind it fright e n ingto  thinkofa right -wi ngcon ser va tive majo rity les bi an  a nd  ga y com m unity wh ic h s ee msto be what h e's s ugge st in g . I  don'tt hi n k  the re  i s arig ht -wing  maj o rit y commu nity. Dat a f r om t he  1 994 ele ction shows t ha t self-ide nt ifi ed les b i ans andgays are disproportiona t ely lib era l. Ithin k they vo ted  about  73 %  Democ rat in  theel ect i o n whi c h  i s o nl y exceeded a s a  voti ng  blo ck by A frican Americans a n d t hat while the rearec o ns erv a ti v e R ep u bli c a n gays and a ve ry, very f ew Re publican l e sbi an s, I th ink the y are quite t he minori ty. But t he  maj o r ity  gay and l esbian m ovement w o uld i d en tifywit h thebr oad  main stream ofcentr e, sli gh tly le ft, p ol itics as  represented by the Dem ocrati c Par ty.  And by i mpl i cat ion, I th inkwhat you a resay ing i s t h e mor e hu m an  ri g hts,civi l  rights g a in s l e s bi ans and gay s a chi eve,the less r adic al we need to be. That would ten d to h old , I thin k.  If we set our  go al s as assim il ation intothe domi na n t soc iety a nd weachieve t ho s e goal s th rou gh legisl ati on and cou rt  a c tions,  the nwe hav e no n e ed t o take to the stre et, e x c ept i n  th ese l ar ge symb o licparades. T hey are not  reall y po litic al demo ns tratio nsan d they now have thesameequival en cy a s S aint P atri c k 's Da y pa ra deor someth i n gl ik et hat . Ho wever ,I do n't reall y  think t hem ajority  i s g o i ng toa ll o w  us to ass imi lateq u ite that e a sily ,  s o  ther e will  alway s be ap lac efor rad ica l action an d probabl y  Ith inkthe 1994  e lect io n i sa good illustra tion ofthis. Wh a t  guara nte e s mi n orityri ghts in a ma jorit y
 quite_articulate about_this, is the large_primarily middle-class_gay_and lesbian_civil_rights movement that_is identified with_the National Gay and_Lesbian Task Force,_and_with the groups that organize the marches on Washington, the big Christopher Street Stonewall_march_last year,_whose_goals_have been assimilation into the_mainstream of American society. And_I would_say this assimilative movement probably does represent the_majority_position, perhaps a_little more loudly than all of the closeted gays_and lesbians, who nonetheless would like_to see these_legal_changes_happen and continue to_have their very quiet life undisturbed_by any public scrutiny. The ACT_UP and Queer Nation people – the_whole queer movement – are really_representing a position of remaining_on the_margins, continuing to have the_somewhat romanticized view_of the_queer as the_outlaw. That's what I think the_struggle is and_in that way I'd say it_was_a similar struggle_to_lesbian_separatism in_relation to the_National_Organization for_Women,_that would be a similar –_perhaps_an even more extreme difference. I find_it frightening to think_of_a right-wing conservative majority_lesbian and gay community which_seems to be what he's suggesting._I don't_think there_is a right-wing majority community. Data from the 1994 election shows_that self-identified lesbians and gays are_disproportionately liberal. I think_they voted_about_73% Democrat in_the_election which_is only exceeded as a voting block_by African_Americans and that while there are_conservative Republican gays and_a_very, very few Republican lesbians, I_think they are quite the minority._But the majority gay and_lesbian_movement_would identify with the broad_mainstream of centre, slightly left, politics_as represented by_the Democratic Party. And by implication, I_think_what you are saying is the_more_human rights, civil rights gains lesbians_and_gays_achieve, the less radical we_need to be. That would tend_to hold, I think. If we set our goals_as assimilation into_the dominant society and we_achieve_those_goals through legislation and court actions, then we have no_need to_take to the_street, except in these large symbolic parades. They are not_really political demonstrations and they now have_the same equivalency as Saint Patrick's Day parade or something like_that. However, I don't really think the majority_is going to allow us to assimilate_quite that easily, so_there_will always be a place for radical_action_and_probably_I think the_1994 election is_a good illustration_of this._What guarantees minority_rights in_a majority