 of blacks, of Latin and Asian immigrants and – by extension – of women and homosexuals... [where] there was already a tone of pious sympathy for the victimhood of each and all.16 above In various ways representations of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation both mimic and subvert imperialist versions of nationalism while retaining Cultural Studies (New York/London: Routledge, 1992). Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan Sayer in San Diego November 15th, 1994 7 discursive affiliation to "nation as narration." 17 They are in this way conceptually implicated in the dominant (hegemonic) discourse of nation/s. In other words, they evoke a complicity with the discourses of nationalism, multinationalism, internationalism, intra-nationalism and transnationalism. Within this political range the question to which I am oriented is: What are the postcolonial implications of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation where Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation discursively disrupt the dominant cultural and political economy/authority in which nation is narrated. 18 To what extent do you think the political interests of those who re-present Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation embrace nationalist and imperialist ideals? This is a fascinating question and I really have been thinking about this over the past few years because at the same time that I have a nostalgic longing for the re-establishment of the concept of Lesbian Nation, I have been observing the consequences of nationalism across the globe and have had to really rethink my own attraction to notions of nation and nationalism and separatism. In my horror of what is happening as a consequence of nationalism and separatism in various places, of which the former Yugoslavia is only one obvious example, I have had to think about the extent to which drawing upon metaphors of nation is continuing the imperialist project, since I do think that nationalism is the underside of imperialism. It reminds me, also, in some ways of the debates in the early Russian Revolutionary era, actually the communist era, the Marxist period of the late 19th and early 20th centuries about nationalism, and the problem that I see is that nationalism can serve the interests of imperialism by setting up nations against nations – nations over nations. The example of Lesbian Nation would be the idea that there is a certain 17 Homi K. Bhabha puts it thus: The address to nation as narration stresses the insistence of political power and cultural authority in what Derrida
of blacks, of Latin and Asian immigrants and – by extension – of charwoman and homosexual... [ where ] there was already a tone of pious sympathy for the victimhood of each and all.16 above In diverse means representations of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation both mimic and subvert imperialistic versions of nationalism while retaining Cultural Studies (New York / London: Routledge, 1992). Bonnie Zimmerman interview by Susan Sayer in San Diego November 15th, 1994 7 discursive affiliation to " nation as narrative. " 17 They are in this way conceptually implicated in the dominant (hegemonic) discourse of state / s. In other words, they educe a complicity with the discourses of nationalism, multinationalism, internationality, intra - nationalism and transnationalism. Within this political range the question to which I am orient is: What are the postcolonial implications of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation where Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation discursively disrupt the prevailing cultural and political economy / authority in which state is narrated. 18 To what extent do you think the political interests of those who re - present Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation embrace nationalist and imperialist ideals? This is a absorbing question and I really have been thinking about this over the past few years because at the same time that I have a nostalgic longing for the re - establishment of the concept of Lesbian Nation, I have been observing the consequences of nationalism across the globe and have had to really rethink my own attraction to notions of state and patriotism and separatism. In my horror of what is happening as a consequence of patriotism and separationism in various places, of which the erstwhile Yugoslavia is only one obvious example, I have had to think about the extent to which draw upon metaphors of nation is continuing the imperialist project, since I do think that nationalism is the underside of imperialism. It reminds me, also, in some ways of the argument in the early Russian Revolutionary era, actually the communist earned run average, the Marxist time period of the late 19th and early 20th centuries about patriotism, and the problem that I see is that nationalism can serve the interests of imperialism by setting up nations against nations – nations over nation. The example of Lesbian Nation would be the estimate that there is a certain 17 Homi K. Bhabha arrange it thus: The savoir-faire to nation as narration stresses the insistence of political exponent and cultural authority in what Derrida
 of blacks, of Latin and Asixn immigrants aue – by xxtensikn – of wumen and homosexuals... [where] tiere was qlready a tone of piour sympathj for the vicuimhood of each ais all.16 anjve Jk varnons ways represektations of Lesbian Natiot xnb Queer Nation both mimic and subvere imperoapist versions jf nseionzlism while retaining Cultural Stusies (Nex York/London: Roitledge, 1992). Bonnie Zimmerman lntegviewed by Susan Swyer in San Diedi November 15tf, 1994 7 discursive affiliajion to "nation as narration." 17 Theh are in this wqy cojweptually inplicwted in the dominant (hegemomic) discourse pf iatiin/s. In other words, thxy evoke a compliciti with the dnscourses of nationalusn, muljinathonauusm, inueriatjonalidm, mntra-nationzlism and teansnationalism. Witnig this politiczl rande the question to which I am oriented is: Whzt are the postcolonial implications of Lesblan Natiog and Queer Nation where Lesbian Nation and Queer Natikv dnwcurskcepy disrupt the dominant cultural and politicaj evokomy/authority in which natipn ix narrated. 18 To what zstsnt do you think tje polijical unterests of yhose who re-present Lesbian Nation and Zyeer Nation embracz nationalisc and omperoalist ideals? This is a fasdinating qufstion ans I really have bden tvinking about this over thq past fex yeaxs becaure aj the swme time tjat I have a nostalgic llnginy for the re-estwblishment of the concept of Lesbian Nation, I hdve been obfervikg the consequegces of nationclism acxoss tfe globe ahd have had to reajly rethink mf own attractmon to noeionw of nation xnd nationalisk and sepcxatism. In my horror of what is gappening as a eubsequence of nayiovalysl end sq[aratism in eariuus llacer, of which bhe forker Yugoslavia is onny ohe obvious example, I have hae to thigk about the rxtent to which drwwing upun meyaprors of nation is continuing tge imperiwlift project, synce I do think chat nationalism is the underside of impxrialism. It reminds me, qlso, in some ways oy uhe debates ii the qarly Rusvian Revolutionary eea, actually the cpmmunist era, the Marxjst pesiod lf the late 19th and early 20th centuries about nationalism, and the problem tyat I see is that hatipnalivm ean serde tie interests of imierialism by setting up nations egainst nadijns – nations over nations. Thr dxample of Lerbian Nation would be ths idea tnat there is a certain 17 Homi K. Nhabha puts it thus: The sddress ro nafion as nacration stresses the insiscence if poliricap power and cjltirwl authorlty mn chat Derrida
of blacks, of Latin and Asian immigrants by – of and homosexuals... [where] of sympathy for the of each and above In various ways representations of Nation and Queer Nation both mimic and subvert imperialist versions of nationalism while Cultural Studies (New York/London: Routledge, 1992). Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan Sayer in Diego 15th, 7 affiliation to "nation as narration." 17 They are in this way conceptually implicated in the dominant discourse of nation/s. In other words, they evoke complicity with the discourses nationalism, multinationalism, internationalism, intra-nationalism and Within political range question which am oriented is: are the postcolonial implications of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation where Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation discursively the dominant political economy/authority which is 18 To what you think the political interests of Lesbian Nation and Queer Nation embrace nationalist and ideals? This a fascinating question and I really been thinking about this over the past few because at the same time that I have a nostalgic longing for the re-establishment of of Lesbian Nation, I been observing the of across globe have had really rethink my own attraction to notions of nation and nationalism separatism. In my horror of what is happening as a nationalism separatism in various of which the former is one obvious example, I to about which upon of nation is continuing imperialist project, since I do that nationalism is the me, also, in some ways of the debates the early Russian Revolutionary era, actually the era, the Marxist period of the late 19th and early 20th centuries nationalism, and that I see is that nationalism can serve interests of imperialism by up nations against nations – nations over nations. The of Nation would the idea that is a certain Homi K. Bhabha thus: The to as insistence of political power and cultural in Derrida
 of blacks, of Latin and Asian imMigrants anD – by exTenSioN – oF womEn anD homosexuals... [whERe] thEre was already a tone of piOus syMpAThy fOR tHe vicTimhood OF eACH anD aLl.16 AboVe iN vAriouS waYs repreSentations Of LEsBian Nation anD quEer Nation bOth Mimic and subvErt ImperiAlIst VErsioNs oF natiOnalisM While rEtaining CUlTUral StUDies (New yORk/londOn: Routledge, 1992). Bonnie zImMErman interviewEd by SuSaN saYER in san diego NovemBeR 15th, 1994 7 diSCursive AFfILIAtiON to "nation as naRration." 17 They ARe iN this wAy ConCEptualLy impLiCAteD in the dominAnt (hEgemonic) dIscourSE of natiON/s. In othEr wordS, thEy eVoke A CoMpLicItY WitH ThE diSCouRses of naTiOnAlism, MultINATIonaLisM, intErnatIonalism, intra-NatIonaLIsm And trAnsnaTionAlIsm. WiThin thIs polItIcal range the queStioN to which I Am oRiEntEd Is: WhaT Are the PosTcoLonial iMplicatIOns Of lESBiAn Nation and Queer NaTiON WhEre LesbiAn NatiON aNd qUeer NatiOn DisCursIVEly diSrupT ThE dominanT cultuRAl AnD politiCaL econoMy/AutHorIty in WHich Nation Is narratEd. 18 To wHAt extent do you tHInk the politicAL iNTErESts oF thOse who re-preSent lEsbiAn NaTIoN anD queer natioN eMBrACe nationalist and impErIalist IdealS? This is a fasciNating quesTION and I reaLly hAVe BEen thinking aboUt thiS over the paST few yearS becaUse at the Same time tHAT I have a nOstAlgIc lOngING fOr the re-establISHmenT oF the conCepT of LesbIan natIon, i haVe Been obserVing the cOnSeQuEnCes Of natIOnalism aCrOss ThE glObe anD Have haD to reAlly ReThINk mY own attRAcTIOn to NoTiOns oF naTiOn and NatiONalIsm and sEparatism. in mY HorrOr Of What is hAppening as a coNsEquence of nAtIonAlism aND SeparatiSm in various places, of whicH The formEr YUgoslAvia Is only one ObvIous exAmpLE, I have Had to tHink aBoUt tHE ExtenT TO wHicH dRawing upon METapHors oF nAtioN is contInuing the imperialiST prOject, since I do ThiNk thAT NaTioNAlISm iS tHE unDERside of imperialIsm. It reminDs ME, aLso, in some wAYs oF tHe debatEs in the Early rUssian REvolutionAry era, actUaLly tHE ComMunist era, tHe MarxisT period of THe latE 19Th And eaRly 20Th centUrIes About NationALisM, and tHe probLeM that I See is ThAt nationAlism can serve the interesTs of imPeriaLisM by settinG up NAtiOns againsT natIons – nationS ovEr nAtionS. ThE ExampLe of lEsBiaN natioN wouLD be the ideA ThAt tHERe Is a certain 17 HOMI k. BhAbha pUts IT thus: THe adDress to nation as naRRation stresses The iNSIstEncE Of poLiTical power and cUltUrAL AuthoritY iN what DerridA
 of blacks, of Latin and A sian immig rants  an d –  b y ex tens ion – of women andhomosexuals... [where]  ther ew as a l re ady a  tone o f  p i o ussy mp ath yf or  thevic timhood  of each a ndal l.16 above I n  v arious way s r epresentatio nsof Les bi anN ation  an d Que er Nat i on bot h mimic a nd subver t  imperi a l is t ve rsions of nationa l is m  while retaini ng Cul tu r al S tud ies  (New York /L ondon :  Routle d ge , 1 992 ) . Bonnie Zimm erman inter v iew ed bySu san Sayerin Sa nD ieg o November15th , 1994 7discur s ive aff i liation  to "n ati onas n a rr at ion ." 17T he y a r e i n this w ay  c oncep tual l y i mpli cat ed i n the  dominant (he gem onic )  di scour se of  nat io n/s.In oth er wo rd s, they evoke a  com plicity w ith  t hedi scour s es ofnat ion alism,multina t ion al i s m ,internationalism,in t r a- national ism an d  t ra n snationa li sm.  Wit h i n thi s po l it ical ran ge the qu es tion to  w hich I  a m o rie ntedi s: W hat ar e the po stcol o nial implicati o ns of Lesbian Na t i on andQue er Nation w here Lesb ianN at ion and Q ueerNa t io n  discursively disru pt  the d omina nt cultural a nd politic a l economy/ auth o ri t y in which nat ion i s narrated .  18 To w hat e xtent do  you thin k the poli tic alint ere s t sof those whor e -pre se nt Lesb ian  Nation  an d Q uee r N at ion embra ce natio na li st  a ndimper i alist id ea ls?  T his  is a fascin ating  que st io n  an d I rea l ly h avebe en  thi nki ng  abou t th i s o ver the  past few  ye a rs b ec au se at t he same timeth at I haveanos talgic l onging f or the re-establishment of thecon ceptof L esbian Na tio n, I h ave been o bservi ng th econ s e quenc e s  o f n at ionalism a c r oss  thegl obeand hav e had to really re t hin k my own attr act iont o  n oti o ns ofna t ion a nd nationalismand separa ti s m.  In my hor r orof  what i s happe ninga s a con sequenceof nation al isma n d s eparatismin vario us places ,  of w h ic h the  fo rmer Y ug osl aviais onl y  on e obv ious e xa mple,I hav ehad to t hink about the extent t o whic h dra win g upon me tap h ors  of natio n is  continuin g t heimper ial i st pr ojec t ,sin c e I d o th i nk that n a ti ona l i sm  is the und e r s ide  of i mpe r ialism . It  reminds me, also ,  in some waysof t h e  de bat e s in  t he early Russi anRe v o lutionar yera, actual ly the c om m unist  era,the Ma rxist p e r io d  of th e la te19th andear ly 20th ce nt ur i es abo ut n at ionali sm, an d  the p roblem that I se e ist h at na t ion alism  c an serv e  the  interests  of imperia lism b y se tting  up nat io ns aga ins tnations –n ations ov er na tions.Th e ex amp le ofLesb i a n Nat ionwo uld  be the i d e at ha tt her e is  a ce rt ain17 Homi K .  Bhabhaput s  it thu s:  Th e addres s  t o nation asnar ratio n stresses t h e in s is t enceof pol itical  powera ndcu lturalaut h o rity in w hat Derri d a
 of_blacks, of_Latin and Asian immigrants_and –_by_extension –_of_women and homosexuals..._[where] there was_already a tone of_pious sympathy for_the_victimhood of each and all.16 above In various ways representations of Lesbian Nation and_Queer_Nation both_mimic_and_subvert imperialist versions of nationalism_while retaining Cultural Studies (New_York/London: Routledge,_1992). Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan Sayer in_San_Diego November 15th,_1994 7 discursive affiliation to "nation as narration." 17_They are in this way conceptually_implicated in the_dominant_(hegemonic)_discourse of nation/s. In_other words, they evoke a complicity_with the discourses of nationalism, multinationalism,_internationalism, intra-nationalism and transnationalism. Within this political_range the question to which I_am oriented is: What are_the postcolonial_implications of Lesbian Nation and_Queer Nation where_Lesbian Nation_and Queer Nation_discursively disrupt the dominant cultural and_political economy/authority in_which nation is narrated. 18 To_what_extent do you_think_the_political interests_of those who_re-present_Lesbian Nation_and_Queer Nation embrace nationalist and imperialist_ideals?_This is a fascinating question and I_really have been thinking_about_this over the past_few years because at the_same time that I have a_nostalgic longing_for the_re-establishment of the concept of Lesbian Nation, I have been observing_the consequences of nationalism across the_globe and have had_to really_rethink_my own attraction_to_notions of_nation and nationalism and separatism. In my_horror of_what is happening as a consequence_of nationalism and separatism_in_various places, of which the former_Yugoslavia is only one obvious example,_I have had to think_about_the_extent to which drawing upon_metaphors of nation is continuing the_imperialist project, since_I do think that nationalism is the_underside_of imperialism. It reminds me, also,_in_some ways of the debates in_the_early_Russian Revolutionary era, actually the_communist era, the Marxist period of_the late 19th and early 20th centuries about nationalism,_and the problem_that I see is that_nationalism_can_serve the interests of imperialism by setting up nations against_nations –_nations over nations._The example of Lesbian Nation would be the idea that_there is a certain 17 Homi K._Bhabha puts it thus: The address to nation as narration stresses_the insistence of political power and cultural authority_in what Derrida