 on what could be called the lesbian and/or queer politics of sexuality. Featherstone 13 in her review of Sisters, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation14 finds its contributors positioned "at the center of a lesbian sexual revolutionary moment, as the articulate voices of a rising generation of pro-sex queer girls" (361). She refers to Soloman 15 who describes a "new split in the lesbian community between women whose analysis of sexuality was based on a model of 14 Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation (New York: Plume, 1993). 15 Alisa Soloman, "Dykotomies: Scents and Sensibility," Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation (New York: Plume, 1993), 210-217. Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan Sayer in San Diego November 15th, 1994 6 oppression and victimization, and women whose model is Madonna: an emblem of autonomy and sexual taboo" (362). Featherstone finds a collection of writers who "are far more interested in their own visions of freedom than in a critique of the larger culture" (362). What is acknowledged by these writers is the commonality found "working politically with gay men in the Queer Nation/ACT UP eighties, [when] many lesbians came to appreciate and envy the sexual openness of gay male culture" (362). What is at issue for this generation is "women's sexual agency" and "sex-positive politics" (362-3). Do you think that the demand for women's sexual agency and sex-positive politics is that much different now to what was being articulated in the early 80s? That's a really good question – I've been thinking about this because I've been somewhat uncomfortable with the characterization of lesbian feminism as anti-sex because that's not how I remember it. I do think that it was based upon a critique of sexuality which to me is self evident. I mean, one has to critique the way sexuality has been constructed and to simply talk about pro-sex as if sex were some kind of essential, natural life force that all you have to do is let it flow – to me that is just the essence of liberal humanism. I think it is so odd that these notions are returning in queer theory. I think that what has happened is that the complexity of lesbian politics from the 1970s to
on what could be called the lesbian and/or queer politics of sexuality. Featherstone 13 in her review of Sisters, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation14 finds its subscriber position " at the center of a lesbian sexual revolutionary consequence, as the articulate voices of a rise generation of pro - sex queer girls " (361). She refers to Soloman 15 who describes a " modern split in the lesbian community between woman whose psychoanalysis of sexuality was based on a exemplar of 14 Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation (New York: Plume, 1993). 15 Alisa Soloman, " Dykotomies: Scents and Sensibility, " Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation (New York: Plume, 1993), 210 - 217. Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan Sayer in San Diego November 15th, 1994 6 oppression and exploitation, and women whose model is Madonna: an emblem of autonomy and sexual taboo " (362). Featherstone detect a collection of writers who " are far more concerned in their own visions of exemption than in a critique of the larger culture " (362). What is acknowledged by these writers is the commonality find " working politically with gay men in the Queer Nation / ACT UP eighties, [ when ] many lesbians hail to appreciate and envy the sexual openness of gay male culture " (362). What is at issue for this generation is " women's intimate representation " and " sex - incontrovertible politics " (362 - 3). Do you intend that the demand for women's intimate agency and sexual activity - positive politics is that much different nowadays to what was being articulated in the early 80s? That's a really good question – I've been thinking about this because I've been somewhat uncomfortable with the characterization of lesbian feminism as anti - sex because that's not how I remember it. I do remember that it was based upon a review of sexuality which to me is self evident. I mean, one has to critique the direction sexuality has been constructed and to simply spill the beans about pro - sex as if sex were some kind of essential, natural life sentence force that all you take to do is permit it flow – to me that is merely the essence of broad humanism. I intend it is so odd that these notions are returning in queer hypothesis. I think that what has happened is that the complexity of lesbian politics from the 1970s to
 on what could be called tht lesbian and/or qoewr polmtics or sexualkty. Featherstone 13 in her revmew if Siwters, Sexperts, Queers: Ceyond thv Lesbian Natmon14 finds its coifributovf poaltionzd "at the center of a lesbhan sexual revmljtnonary moment, as the articulate voicqs of a rlsing generatijn og pro-avx queer girls" (361). She refers to Skloman 15 who describex a "new split in the lesbiwn clmmunity between wlmen whose qnalrwis of sexuauity was based on a mosel of 14 Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Rexpexts, Queers: Vetonf the Lesbiai Natijn (New York: Ikume, 1993). 15 Alisa Xoloman, "Dykotokiev: Sxents and Sensibility," Arlene Stein, ed. Syster, Sex[exts, Queers: Beyond the Lwsbiat Nadion (Bew Yodk: Pmume, 1993), 210-217. Boinie Zimmerjan interviwwed by Susan Sayer ig San Diego Nobember 15tr, 1994 6 oppression and victimization, and woken whose model is Madonna: an emblem of autonomi and sexuwl taboo" (362). Featherstone finds a collection of writars wio "art nwf mlre interested in their own visions of freedoi tnak in a critique jf the largrr cijture" (362). What ir acknowlsdged by these wrihers is the xommonaliuy foind "working politically wity gay men in rhe Queer Nation/ACC UP eightier, [whgn] manu lesbians came to apprzciate and envy tje sexual upenness of gay oalv cunture" (362). What is at issue fow this geieratnon is "wumen'x sexuwl agency" wnd "scf-positive politics" (362-3). Do iou thhnk that tje demand for women's sexual ageiry and sex-posothve politicf is bhat much diffewent now to whct was bzing afticulated in the early 80s? Thwt's a really clod question – I've beqn tyinkung abojg this because I've been somewhat yncomfortable with thg dharacterizatiou if lesbian femimiso af wnvi-sex tecause that'v nog hue I rdmember it. L du thonk that it was baseg upkn a critique of srxmality whuch to mq is self evicent. I mean, one had to rritiqne the wai sexuality has been constructes and to dimily talk aboue pri-sex as if szx were some kind of essential, natural lmfe force that all you yave to do is let ij fkow – to me vhat if just tha essence of liberal humanism. I think it is so odd that thsse nodions are returning in queer theory. I think that what has happened is that the complxxyty of lesbjan lolitpcs yrom thq 1970s vo
on what could be called the lesbian politics sexuality. Featherstone in her review the Nation14 finds its positioned "at the of a lesbian sexual revolutionary moment, the articulate voices of a rising generation of pro-sex queer girls" (361). She to Soloman 15 who describes a "new split in the lesbian community between whose of was on a model of 14 Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation (New Plume, 1993). 15 Alisa Soloman, "Dykotomies: Scents and Arlene Stein, ed. Sister, Queers: Beyond the Lesbian Nation York: 1993), 210-217. Zimmerman by Sayer in San November 15th, 1994 6 oppression and victimization, and women whose model is Madonna: an emblem of autonomy sexual taboo" finds a of who far more interested own visions of freedom than in the larger culture" (362). What is acknowledged by writers is commonality found "working politically with gay in the Queer Nation/ACT UP eighties, [when] many came to appreciate and envy the sexual openness of gay male culture" (362). What is for this generation is sexual agency" and politics" Do think the demand women's sexual agency and sex-positive politics is that much different now what was being articulated in the early 80s? That's a question I've been thinking this because I've been uncomfortable the characterization of lesbian anti-sex that's remember I think that it was upon a critique of sexuality to me is self to critique the way sexuality has been constructed to simply talk about pro-sex as if were some kind of essential, natural life force that all you have do is flow – to me that is just the of liberal humanism. I it is so odd that these notions are returning queer I think what has happened that the complexity lesbian politics from to
 on what could be called the lesBian and/or qUeer pOliTicS oF sexUaliTy. Featherstone 13 IN her Review of Sisters, SexpertS, QueeRs: bEyonD ThE LesbIan NatiON14 fINDs iTs CoNtrIbUToRs posItiOned "at tHe center of A leSbIan sexual revOLuTionary momEnt, As the articulAte Voices Of A riSIng geNerAtion Of pro-sEX queer Girls" (361). She rEfERs to SoLOman 15 who DEScRibeS a "new split in the leSBiAN community betwEen womEn WHoSE AnaLysIs of sexualItY was bASed on a mODeL OF 14 arlENe Stein, ed. SistEr, Sexperts, QUEerS: BeyonD tHe LESbian NAtion (neW yorK: Plume, 1993). 15 Alisa soloMan, "DykotoMies: ScENts and SENsibiliTy," ArleNe STeiN, ed. SIStEr, sexPeRTs, QUEeRs: BEYonD the LesbIaN NAtion (new YORK: pLume, 1993), 210-217. bonNie ZImmerMan intervieweD by susaN sayEr in SAn DieGo NoVeMber 15tH, 1994 6 oppreSsion AnD victimization, aNd woMen whose mOdeL iS MaDoNna: an EMblem oF auTonOmy and sExual taBOo" (362). FEaTHERsTone finds a collectiOn OF WrIters who "Are far MOrE iNTerested In TheIr owN VIsionS of fREeDom than iN a critIQuE oF the larGeR cultuRe" (362). whaT is AcknoWLedgEd by thEse writeRs is tHE commonality foUNd "working poliTIcALLy WIth gAy mEn in the QueeR NatIOn/ACt UP eIGhTieS, [When] mAny leSbIAnS Came to appreciate and EnVy the sExual Openness of gay Male culturE" (362). wHAt is at isSue fOR tHIs generation is "Women'S sexual ageNCy" and "sex-PositIve politIcs" (362-3). Do you tHINk that thE deManD foR woMEN's Sexual agency aND Sex-pOsItive poLitIcs is thAt mUch DifFerEnT now to whaT was beinG aRtIcUlAteD in thE Early 80s? ThAt'S a rEaLly Good qUEstion – i've beEn thInKiNG abOut this BEcAUSe I'vE bEeN somEwhAt UncomFortABle With the CharacterIzaTIon oF lEsBian femInism as anti-seX bEcause that'S nOt hOw I remEMBer it. I do Think that it was based upon A CritiquE of SexuaLity Which to me Is sElf eviDenT. i mean, oNe has tO critIqUe tHE Way seXUAlIty HaS been constRUCteD and tO sImplY talk abOut pro-sex as if sex weRE soMe kind of essenTiaL, natURAl LifE FoRCe tHaT All YOU have to do is let iT flow – to me tHaT Is Just the essENce Of Liberal HumanisM. I thiNK it is so Odd that thEse notionS aRe reTURniNg in queer tHeory. I thInk that whAT has hAPpEned iS thAt the cOmPleXity oF lesbiAN poLiticS from tHe 1970S to
 on what could be called t he lesbian  and/ orque er  pol itic s of sexuality .  Fea therstone 13 in her re viewof Sist e rs , Sex perts,Q ue e r s:Be yo ndth e  L esbia n N ation14  finds its  co nt ributors pos i ti oned "at t hecenter of ales bian s ex ual revol uti onary  momen t , as t he articu la t e voic e s of ar i si ng g eneration of pro- s ex queer girls" ( 361).Sh e  r e f ers  to  Soloman 1 5who d e scribes a" n e w s p lit in the le sbian commu n ity  betwe en  wo m en who se an al y sis  of sexuali ty w as basedon a m o del of1 4 Arlen e Stei n,ed.  Sis t er ,Sex pe r ts, Qu eer s : B eyond th eLe sbian  Nat i o n (New  Yo rk:Plume , 1993). 15 A lis a So l oma n, "D ykoto mies :Scent s andSensi bi lity," Arlene S tein , ed. Sis ter ,Sex pe rts,Q ueers:  Be yon d the L esbianN ati on ( N ew  York: Plume, 1993 ), 2 10 -217. Bo nnie Z i mm er m an inter vi ewe d by S usanSaye r  i n San Di ego No v em be r 15th,  1 994 6op pre ssi on an d  vic timiza tion, an d wom e n whose modeli s Madonna: an em b l em of a uto nomy and se xual tabo o" ( 3 62 ).F eathe rston ef in d s a collection of w ri ters w ho "a re far more i nterestedi n their ow n vi s io n s of freedom t han i n a critiq u e of the  larg er cultu re" (362) . What isack now led ged b ythese writers i s th ecommona lit y found  "w ork ing  po li tically w ith gayme nin  t heQueer Nation/A CT  UP  e igh ties, [when]  many  les bi an s  ca me to a p pr e c iate  a nd  env y t he  sexu al o p enn ess ofgay malecul t ure"  ( 36 2). Wha t is at issue  f or this ge ne rat ion is " women'ssexual agency" and "sex - positiv e p oliti cs"(362-3).Doyou th ink that t he dem and f or  wo m e n's s e x ua l a ge ncy and se x - pos itive  p olit ics isthat much differen t  no w to what was  be inga r ti cul a te d  in  t h e e a r ly 80s? That'sa really g oo d  q uestion –I 've  b een thi nking a boutt his bec ause I've  been som ew hatu n com fortable w ith thecharacter i zatio n  o f les bia n femi ni smas an ti-sex bec ausethat's  n ot how  I re me mber it.  I do think that it was  based  upon  acritiqueofs exu ality whi ch t o me is se lfevi dent.  Im ean,oneh as  to criti quet he way se x ua lit y ha s been cons t r u cte d and  to simply  tal k about pro-sex a s  if sex were s omek i ndofe ssen ti al, natural li fefo r c e that a ll  you have t o do isle t  it f low –to methat is j us t  the e ssen ceof libera l h um a nism. I  t hi n k it i s so  o dd tha t thes e  not i o ns are returning  in q u e er th e ory . I t hi nk that what  has happe ned is that  the c ompl exity  of les bi an pol iti cs  from the1 970s to
 on_what could_be called the lesbian_and/or queer_politics_of sexuality._Featherstone_13 in her_review of Sisters,_Sexperts, Queers: Beyond the_Lesbian Nation14 finds_its_contributors positioned "at the center of a lesbian sexual revolutionary moment, as the articulate_voices_of a_rising_generation_of pro-sex queer girls" (361)._She refers to Soloman 15_who describes_a "new split in the lesbian community between_women_whose analysis of_sexuality was based on a model of 14 Arlene_Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond_the Lesbian Nation_(New_York:_Plume, 1993). 15 Alisa_Soloman, "Dykotomies: Scents and Sensibility," Arlene_Stein, ed. Sister, Sexperts, Queers: Beyond_the Lesbian Nation (New York: Plume, 1993),_210-217. Bonnie Zimmerman interviewed by Susan_Sayer in San Diego November_15th, 1994_6 oppression and victimization, and_women whose model_is Madonna:_an emblem of_autonomy and sexual taboo" (362). Featherstone_finds a collection_of writers who "are far more_interested_in their own_visions_of_freedom than_in a critique_of_the larger_culture"_(362). What is acknowledged by these_writers_is the commonality found "working politically with_gay men in the_Queer_Nation/ACT UP eighties, [when]_many lesbians came to appreciate_and envy the sexual openness of_gay male_culture" (362)._What is at issue for this generation is "women's sexual agency"_and "sex-positive politics" (362-3). Do you_think that the demand_for women's_sexual_agency and sex-positive_politics_is that_much different now to what was being_articulated in_the early 80s? That's a really_good question – I've_been_thinking about this because I've been_somewhat uncomfortable with the characterization of_lesbian feminism as anti-sex because_that's_not_how I remember it. I_do think that it was based_upon a critique_of sexuality which to me is self_evident._I mean, one has to critique_the_way sexuality has been constructed and_to_simply_talk about pro-sex as if_sex were some kind of essential,_natural life force that all you have to do_is let it_flow – to me that_is_just_the essence of liberal humanism. I think it is so_odd that_these notions are_returning in queer theory. I think that what has happened_is that the complexity of lesbian politics_from the 1970s to