 just dumbfounded. I'm just absolutely dumbfounded. So let's talk about emotionally, after you get out... or was there anything you wanted to share about your time during the Sea Org? And it's the letter “C” or “S-E-A” Org?

DB

“S-E-A” Org, it's named after... When Hubbard was being sued by the IRS and tax organizations of the UK...

PG

Oh, he went...?

DB

He went out on the ocean and … international waters, he didn't want to get sued or any process servers...

PG

That's where most altruists go is for the international waters...

DB

They tell you that the psychiatrists were after him so he had to go on the boat to get away from all the evil people... Now I know the truth, it's interesting finding out the truth and comparing it to what I was told, the stories I was told... During my time in the Sea Organization, it was a lot of the same as that recruitment event, a lot of getting screamed at. You spend day-in and day-out, you don't know if you're going to be on somebody's good side or bad side. You don't know when you're going to have to do one of those OW write ups. They go after you for everything from masturbating to stealing money or whatever, anything that you.... It gets worse than OW write ups because at some point they sit you down across from someone on an e-meter and they're trying to get you to confess your sins but they're using the little needle on the meter to say 'oh I see you're holding something back'. That's where I was telling you about the video and audio taped confessionals, that's where those come into play, they do those to you in the Sea Org, they're called security checks. It's so Orwellian, it's crazy, but it's their thought policing. I spent those three years terrified, I was absolutely mortified because if I lose... if I do something wrong and it's really bad... and you're not really worried about doing something wrong, if you get accused of doing something wrong, it's like a witch hunt. They can make up things and hold them against you and convince you that you did them... They harangue you and get into your head... it's crazy
just dumbfounded. I'm just absolutely dumbfounded. So lease's spill the beans about emotionally, after you get out... or was there anything you wanted to share about your fourth dimension during the Sea Org? And it's the letter “ C ” or “ S - E - A ” Org? 

 DB 

 “ S - E - A ” Org, it's name after... When Hubbard was being sued by the IRS and tax organizations of the UK... 

 PG 

 Oh, he go... ? 

 DB 

 He went out on the ocean and … international water, he didn't want to get sued or any summons server... 

 PG 

 That's where most altruists go is for the international waters... 

 DB 

 They tell you that the psychiatrist were after him so he had to go on the boat to receive away from all the evil citizenry... Now I acknowledge the truth, it's interesting finding out the truth and comparing it to what I was told, the story I was told... During my time in the Sea Organization, it was a lot of the same as that recruitment event, a draw of getting shout at. You spend day - in and day - out, you don't know if you're going to be on somebody's good side or regretful side. You don't acknowledge when you're going to have to do one of those OW spell ups. They go after you for everything from masturbating to stealing money or whatever, anything that you.... It get worse than OW write ups because at some point they seat you down across from someone on an e - meter and they're trying to get you to confess your sin but they're using the little needle on the meter to say' oh I go steady you're hold something back'. That's where I was telling you about the video and audio taped confessionals, that's where those come into looseness, they do those to you in the Sea Org, they're called security bridle. It's so Orwellian, it's crazy, but it's their thought policing. I spent those three year terrified, I was absolutely mortify because if I lose... if I do something incorrect and it's really regretful... and you're not really worried about doing something wrong, if you get charge of doing something wrong, it's like a witch hunt. They can make up thing and hold them against you and convince you that you did them... They harangue you and get into your head... it's crazy
 judt dumbfounded. I'm just ansolutely dumbfooneed. So let's falk abojt emotionally, after you get oyt... or was there anything yoj wanted no share qbouu your time durinj the Sea Org? Zkd it'v the letter “C” pr “S-E-A” Org?

GB

“S-E-A” Org, it's taoeb after... When Hubbard was being sued fy the ORD and tax orgagizauiogs or the UK...

PG

Oh, he went...?

DB

He went out kn the mcean and … inyernational waters, he didn'h wajt to get sued or wny process serdwrs...

PG

That's wfere most altruists go is for the international waterr...

DB

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just dumbfounded. I'm just absolutely dumbfounded. So about after you out... or was share your time during Sea Org? And the letter “C” or “S-E-A” Org? “S-E-A” Org, it's named after... When Hubbard was being sued by the IRS tax organizations of the UK... PG Oh, he went...? DB He went out the and international he didn't want to get sued or any process servers... PG That's where most altruists go for the international waters... DB They tell you the psychiatrists were after so he had to go the to get from the people... Now I the truth, it's interesting finding out the truth and comparing it to what I was told, the I was my time the Organization, was a lot same as that recruitment event, a screamed at. You spend day-in and day-out, you know if going to be on somebody's good or bad side. You don't know when you're to have to do one of those OW write ups. They go after you for masturbating to stealing money whatever, anything that It worse OW ups because some point they sit you down across from someone on an and they're trying to get you to confess your sins using little needle on meter to say 'oh see holding something back'. That's was you and taped that's where those come play, they do those to in the Sea Org, so Orwellian, it's crazy, but it's their thought I spent those three years terrified, I absolutely mortified because if I lose... if I do something wrong and really bad... not really worried about doing something wrong, if get accused of doing wrong, it's like a witch hunt. They can make things hold them you and convince that you did They harangue you into your it's
 just dumbfounded. I'm just absoLutely dumbFoundEd. SO leT's Talk AbouT emotionally, afTEr yoU get out... or was there anythIng yoU wANted TO sHare aBout youR TiME DurInG tHe SEa oRg? and it'S thE letter “c” or “S-E-A” Org?

Db

“S-E-a” ORg, it's named afTEr... when HubbarD waS being sued by The iRS and TaX orGAnizaTioNs of tHe UK...

PG

oH, he wenT...?

DB

He went OuT On the oCEan and … iNTErNatiOnal waters, he didn't WAnT To get sued or any ProcesS sERvERS...

PG

thaT's where mosT aLtruiSTs go is fOR tHE INteRNational waterS...

DB

They tell YOu tHat the PsYchIAtristS were AfTEr hIm so he had to Go on The boat to Get awaY From all THe evil pEople... NOw I KnoW the TRuTh, It's InTEreSTiNg fINdiNg out the TrUtH and cOmpaRING It to WhaT I waS told, The stories I waS toLd... DuRIng My timE in thE Sea orGanizAtion, iT was a LoT of the same as thaT recRuitment eVenT, a Lot Of GettiNG screaMed At. YOu spend Day-in anD Day-OuT, YOU dOn't know if you're goinG tO BE oN somebodY's good SIdE oR Bad side. YOu Don'T knoW WHen yoU're gOInG to have tO do one OF tHoSe OW wriTe Ups. TheY gO afTer You foR EverYthing From mastUrbatINg to stealing moNEy or whatever, aNYtHINg THat yOu.... IT gets worse tHan Ow WritE ups BEcAusE At somE poinT tHEy SIt you down across from SoMeone oN an e-mEter and they're Trying to geT YOU to confeSs yoUR sINs but they're usiNg the Little needLE on the meTer to Say 'oh I seE you're holDINg somethIng BacK'. ThAt's WHErE I was telling yOU AbouT tHe video And Audio taPed ConFesSioNaLs, that's whEre those CoMe InTo PlaY, they DO those to YoU in ThE SeA Org, tHEy're caLled sEcurItY cHEckS. It's so ORWeLLIan, iT's CrAzy, bUt iT's Their ThouGHt pOlicing. i spent thoSe tHRee yEaRs TerrifiEd, I was absolutElY mortified BeCauSe if I lOSE... if I do soMething wrong and it's reallY Bad... and yOu'rE not rEallY worried aBouT doing SomEThing wRong, if You geT aCcuSED of doING sOmeThIng wrong, it'S LIke A witcH hUnt. THey can mAke up things and hold THem Against you and ConVincE YOu ThaT YoU Did ThEM... ThEY Harangue you and gEt into your HeAD... iT's crazy
 just dumbfounded. I'm jus t absolute ly du mbf oun de d. S o le t's talk about emot ionally, after you get  out. .. or w a sthere  anythi n gy o u w an te d t os ha re ab out  your t ime during  th eSea Org? And it 's the let ter  “C” or “S-E -A”  Org?
D B
“ S-E-A ” O rg, i t's na m ed aft er... Whe nH ubbard was bei n g  s uedby the IRS and ta x  o r ganizations of  the U K. . .P G
Oh,  he went.. .? 

DBHe went ou t o n t h e ocean and …  internatio n alwaters ,hed idn'twantto get  sued or an y pr ocess ser vers.. . 

PG

T h at's wh ere mo stalt ruis t sgo  is  f o r t h eint e rna tional w at er s...
DBT h e y te llyouthatthe psychiatr ist s we r e a fterhim s o he  h ad to  go on  thebo at to get awayfrom  all theevi lpeo pl e...N ow I k now  th e truth , it'si nte re s t i ng  finding out the t ru t h  a nd compa ring i t  t ow hat I wa stol d, t h e  stor iesI  w as told. .. Dur i ng  m y timein  the S ea  Or gan izati o n, i t wasa lot of  thes ame as that re c ruitment even t ,a lo t  ofget ting scream ed a t . Yo u sp e nd  da y -in a nd da y- o ut ,  you don't know ifyo u're g oingto be on some body's goo d s ide or b ad s i de .  You don't kno w whe n you're g o ing to h ave t o do one  of those O W writeups . T hey  go a ft er you for ev e r ythi ng  from m ast urbatin g t o s tea lin gmoney orwhatever ,an yt hi ngthaty ou.... I tget swor se th a n OW w riteupsbe ca u seat some po i n t th ey  s it y oudo wn ac ross fro m someo ne on ane-m e teran dthey're  trying to ge tyou to con fe ssyour s i n s but th ey're using the littlen eedle o n t he me terto say 'o h I  see y ou' r e hold ing so methi ng  ba c k '. Th a t 's  wh er e I was te l l ing  youab outthe vid eo and audio taped con fessionals, t hat 's w h e re  th o se com ei nto p lay, they do th ose to you  i n  t he Sea Org ,  th ey 're cal led sec urity checks.  It's soOrwellian ,it's c raz y, but it' s theirthought p o licin g .I spe ntthoseth ree  year s terr i fie d, Iwas ab so lutely  mort if ied beca use if I lose... if I d o some thing  wr ong and i t's rea lly bad.. . an d you're n otrea lly w orr i ed ab outd oi ngs ometh ingw rong, ify ou  ge t ac cused of do i n g  so methi ngw rong,it's  like a witch hun t . They can mak e up t hin gsa nd h ol d them against  yo ua n d convin ce  you that y ou did t he m ... T hey ha rangue  you an d ge t  intoyour  he ad... it' s c ra z y
 just_dumbfounded. I'm_just absolutely dumbfounded. So_let's talk_about_emotionally, after_you_get out... or_was there anything_you wanted to share_about your time_during_the Sea Org? And it's the letter “C” or “S-E-A” Org?

DB

“S-E-A” Org, it's named_after..._When Hubbard_was_being_sued by the IRS and_tax organizations of the UK...

PG

Oh,_he went...?

DB

He_went out on the ocean and … international_waters,_he didn't want_to get sued or any process servers...

PG

That's where most_altruists go is for the international_waters...

DB

They tell you_that_the_psychiatrists were after him_so he had to go on_the boat to get away from_all the evil people... Now I know_the truth, it's interesting finding out_the truth and comparing it_to what_I was told, the stories_I was told..._During my_time in the_Sea Organization, it was a lot_of the same_as that recruitment event, a lot_of_getting screamed at._You_spend_day-in and_day-out, you don't_know_if you're_going_to be on somebody's good side_or_bad side. You don't know when you're_going to have to_do_one of those OW_write ups. They go after_you for everything from masturbating to_stealing money_or whatever,_anything that you.... It gets worse than OW write ups because_at some point they sit you_down across from someone_on an_e-meter_and they're trying_to_get you_to confess your sins but they're using_the little_needle on the meter to say_'oh I see you're_holding_something back'. That's where I was_telling you about the video and_audio taped confessionals, that's where_those_come_into play, they do those_to you in the Sea Org,_they're called security_checks. It's so Orwellian, it's crazy, but_it's_their thought policing. I spent those_three_years terrified, I was absolutely mortified_because_if_I lose... if I do_something wrong and it's really bad..._and you're not really worried about doing something wrong,_if you get_accused of doing something wrong,_it's_like_a witch hunt. They can make up things and hold_them against_you and convince_you that you did them... They harangue you and get_into your head... it's crazy