 say if we’re going to go to a zero-carbon economy, that’s great. You go first. Is that not a fair claim for them to make?

A: You can’t blame individuals who are in their cars driving home at the end of the day. And you can’t say I’m going to snap my fingers and tomorrow all those cars are going to be electric. You can say by 2030, all those cars are going to be electric. A 60 per cent reduction by 2030 is doable. There is a real case here that human civilization is not just at risk but headed toward a breakdown without the kind of dramatic action I’m talking about.

Q: Okay. You made this case in 2008, 2011 and 2015.

A: No, I haven’t.

Q: How’s it different?

A: The IPCC report of Oct. 8, 2018 [which warned countries have 12 years to avoid a climate catastrophe] changed a lot for the world. It is absolutely required reading for anyone who’s a serious political figure. You have to know what the odds are, what the risks are. The first step of Mission Possible is to create the equivalent of a war cabinet. Bring your political opponents into the same room. Because you have to actually have a consensus that says it’s a security threat, these are the steps we’re taking, and we’re holding to them because we’re making these decisions across party lines. I know it’s a big leap from the way we usually think about partisan politics. But if we keep doing politics the way we’re doing politics, and we keep doing climate action the way we’re doing climate action, we will not have a history that judges us because we, certainly as a civilization, won’t be here.

Q: As I said before, you’ve been the leader of the party for 13 years. At the last election, the only party leader with more seniority than you was Stephen Harper. Now none of them have more seniority than you. You’ve said you have no plans to stop being the leader. Why not?

A: Oh, it’s not that I don’t have any plans to stop being leader. I certainly want to be a leader through this election. I want to get back to Parliament with as many Green MPs as possible. I want to do the best job I possibly can on delivering what
say if we ’re going to go to a zero - carbon economy, that ’s big. You die first. Is that not a fair claim for them to cause? 

 A: You ca n’t blame individuals who are in their car drive home at the end of the sidereal day. And you ca n’t suppose I ’m going to photograph my fingers and tomorrow all those cars are fail to be electric. You can read by 2030, all those cars are go to be electric. A 60 per cent reduction by 2030 is accomplishable. There is a real case here that human refinement is not just at risk but head toward a dislocation without the kind of dramatic action I ’m talking about. 

 Q: Okay. You made this case in 2008, 2011 and 2015. 

 A: No, I have n’t. 

 Q: How ’s it unlike? 

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 A: Oh, it ’s not that I do n’t receive any plans to stop being leader. I certainly want to be a leader through this election. I want to get back to Parliament with as many Green MPs as possible. I desire to do the best occupation I possibly can on delivering what
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Q: Okay. Ypu kadw this case in 2008, 2011 and 2015.

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Q: Es I said befire, tou’ve bddn the leader pf the pagtv for 13 yeqrs. At the last elcctiov, the only party leqder with more xenkorytj tian yjg was Stephet Hafpef. Now vone of then havr more seniority that yoh. You’ve said you hsvc no planw to sto[ being the lrader. Why not?

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say if we’re going to go to economy, great. You first. Is that them make? A: You blame individuals who in their cars driving home at end of the day. And you can’t say I’m going to snap my and tomorrow all those cars are going to be electric. You can say 2030, those are to be electric. A 60 per cent reduction by 2030 is doable. There is a real here that human civilization is not just at but headed toward a without the kind of dramatic I’m about. Q: You this in 2008, 2011 2015. A: No, I haven’t. Q: How’s it different? A: The IPCC report of Oct. 8, 2018 warned countries years to a catastrophe] a lot for It is absolutely required reading for serious political figure. You have to know what odds are, the risks are. The first step Mission Possible is to create the equivalent of war cabinet. Bring your political opponents into the same room. Because you have to actually consensus that says it’s security threat, these the we’re and holding to because we’re making these decisions across party lines. I know it’s big leap from the way we usually think about partisan if keep doing politics way we’re doing politics, we doing climate action the doing action, have history judges us because we, as a civilization, won’t be Q: As I said of the party for 13 years. At the election, the only party leader with more than you was Stephen Harper. Now none of them have more seniority you. You’ve have no plans to stop being the leader. not? A: Oh, it’s that I don’t have any plans to stop being I want to a leader through election. I want get back to as many MPs possible. do the best job I possibly on what
 say if we’re going to go to a zero-Carbon econOmy, thAt’s GreAt. you gO firSt. Is that not a faIR claIm for them to make?

A: You can’T blamE iNDiviDUaLs who Are in thEIr CARs dRiViNg hOmE At The enD of The day. ANd you can’t sAy I’M gOing to snap my FInGers and tomOrrOw all those caRs aRe goinG tO be ELectrIc. YOu can Say by 2030, aLL those Cars are goInG To be elECtric. A 60 pER CeNt reDuction by 2030 is doable. tHeRE is a real case heRe that HuMAn CIVilIzaTion is not jUsT at riSK but heaDEd TOWArd A Breakdown withOut the kind oF DraMatic aCtIon i’M talkiNg aboUt.

q: okaY. You made thiS casE in 2008, 2011 and 2015.

A: No, i haven’T.

q: How’s it DIfferenT?

A: The IpCC RepOrt oF ocT. 8, 2018 [wHicH wARneD CoUntRIes Have 12 yearS tO aVoid a ClimATE CAtasTroPhe] cHangeD a lot for the woRld. it is ABsoLutelY requIred ReAding For anyOne whO’s A serious politicAl fiGure. You haVe tO kNow WhAt the ODds are, WhaT thE risks aRe. The fiRSt sTeP OF miSsion Possible is to cReATE tHe equivaLent of A WaR cABinet. BriNg YouR polITIcal oPponENtS into the Same roOM. BEcAuse you HaVe to acTuAllY haVe a coNSensUs that Says it’s a SecurITy threat, these aRE the steps we’re TAkING, aND we’rE hoLding to them BecaUSe we’Re maKInG thESe decIsionS aCRoSS party lines. I know it’s A bIg leap From tHe way we usuallY think abouT PARtisan poLitiCS. BUT if we keep doing PolitIcs the way wE’Re doing pOlitiCs, and we kEep doing cLIMate actiOn tHe wAy wE’re DOInG climate actioN, WE wilL nOt have a HisTory thaT juDgeS us BecAuSe we, certaInly as a cIvIlIzAtIon, Won’t bE Here.

Q: As I SaId bEfOre, You’ve BEen the LeadeR of tHe PaRTy fOr 13 years. aT tHE Last ElEcTion, The OnLy parTy leADer With morE senioritY thAN you WaS STephen HArper. Now none oF tHem have morE sEniOrity tHAN you. You’vE said you have no plans to stOP being tHe lEader. why nOt?

A: Oh, it’s nOt tHat I doN’t hAVe any pLans to Stop bEiNg lEADer. I cERTaInlY wAnt to be a leADEr tHrougH tHis eLection. i want to get back to PaRLiaMent with as manY GrEen MpS As PosSIbLE. I wAnT To dO THe best job I possiBly can on deLiVErIng what
 say if we’re going to goto a zero- carbo n e con om y, t hat’ s great. You g o  fir st. Is that not a fair  clai mf or t h em  to m ake?

A :  Y o u  ca n’ tbla me in divid ual s who a re in thei r c ar s driving ho m eat the end  of  the day. An d y ou can ’t  sa y  I’mgoi ng to  snapm y fing ers and t om o rrow a l l those c ar s ar e going to be ele c tr i c. You can say  by 20 30 ,  a l l  th ose  cars arego ing t o  be ele c tr i c .  A6 0 per cent re duction by2 030  is do ab le. Thereis are a l c ase here th at h uman civi lizati o n is no t  just a t risk  bu t h eade d  t ow ard  a bre a kd own wit hout the  k in d ofdram a t i c  act ion  I’m  talk ing about.

Q : O kay. You  made  this  cas ein 20 08, 20 11 an d2015.

A: No, I  hav en’t.

Q:  Ho w’ s i tdiffe r ent?
A:The  IPCC r eport o f  Oc t. 8 ,  2 018 [which warnedco u n tr ies have  12 ye a rs  t o  avoid a  c lim atec a tastr ophe ]  c hanged a  lot f o rth e world .It isab sol ute ly re q uire d read ing foranyon e  who’s a serio u s political f i gu r e .Y ou h ave  to know wh at t h e od ds a r e,  wh a t the  risk sa re .  The first step ofMi ssionPossi ble is to cre ate the eq u i v alent of  a w a rc abinet. Bringyourpoliticalo pponents  into  the sam e room. B e c ause you  ha vetoact u a ll y have a cons e n susth at says  it ’s a se cur ity  th rea t,  these ar e the st ep swe ’r e t aking ,  and we’ re  ho ld ing  to t h em bec ausewe’r ema k ing  thesed ec i s ions  a cr osspar ty  line s. I kno w it’sa big lea p f r om t he  w ay we u sually thinkab out partis an  po litics . But if w e keep doing politics t h e way w e’r e doi ng p olitics,and  we ke epd oing c limate  acti on  th e way w e ’ re  do in g climatea c tio n, we  w illnot hav e a history that j u dge s us becausewe,  cer t a in lya sa  ci vi l iza t i on, won’t be he re.

Q: As  I sa id before, you ’v e beenthe lea der o f  the pa rty for 1 3 years.At  the l ast  election,  the onl y party l e aderw it h mor e s eniori ty  th an yo u wasS tep hen H arper.  N ow non e ofth em havemore seniority than you . You’ ve sa idyou havenop lan s to stop  bei ng the lea der . W hy no t?A: Oh , it ’ snot thatI do n ’t have a n ypla n s  t o stop bein g l ead er. I  ce r tainly  wan t to be a leadert hrough this el ecti o n . I  wa n t to  g et back to Par lia me n t  with as  m any Green M Ps as po ss i ble.I want  to do  the be s t  j o b I po ssib lycan on de liv er i ng what 
 say_if we’re_going to go to_a zero-carbon_economy,_that’s great._You_go first. Is_that not a_fair claim for them_to make?

A: You_can’t_blame individuals who are in their cars driving home at the end of the_day._And you_can’t_say_I’m going to snap my_fingers and tomorrow all those_cars are_going to be electric. You can say by_2030,_all those cars_are going to be electric. A 60 per cent_reduction by 2030 is doable. There_is a real_case_here_that human civilization is_not just at risk but headed_toward a breakdown without the kind_of dramatic action I’m talking about.

Q: Okay._You made this case in 2008,_2011 and 2015.

A: No, I_haven’t.

Q: How’s_it different?

A: The IPCC report_of Oct. 8,_2018 [which_warned countries have_12 years to avoid a climate_catastrophe] changed a_lot for the world. It is_absolutely_required reading for_anyone_who’s_a serious_political figure. You_have_to know_what_the odds are, what the risks_are._The first step of Mission Possible is_to create the equivalent_of_a war cabinet. Bring_your political opponents into the_same room. Because you have to_actually have_a consensus_that says it’s a security threat, these are the steps we’re_taking, and we’re holding to them_because we’re making these_decisions across_party_lines. I know_it’s_a big_leap from the way we usually think_about partisan_politics. But if we keep doing_politics the way we’re_doing_politics, and we keep doing climate_action the way we’re doing climate_action, we will not have_a_history_that judges us because we,_certainly as a civilization, won’t be_here.

Q: As I_said before, you’ve been the leader of_the_party for 13 years. At the_last_election, the only party leader with_more_seniority_than you was Stephen Harper._Now none of them have more_seniority than you. You’ve said you have no plans_to stop being_the leader. Why not?

A: Oh,_it’s_not_that I don’t have any plans to stop being leader._I certainly_want to be_a leader through this election. I want to get back_to Parliament with as many Green MPs_as possible. I want to do the best job I possibly_can on delivering what