 not what it really is). a function to return a substring of buffer text surrounded by bidi controls that make sure its visual appearance will not change when copied to a different portion of text And that is even before we consider Emacs-only features, which those other editors can only dream about, like mouse-highlight, display and overlay strings, invisible text, text alignment on display, etc. -- all of which are bidi-aware in Emacs.

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From: Itai Berli <itai.berli <at> gmail.com> To: 27525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#27525: 25.1; Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:19:25 +0300

You sure put a lot of thought and effort into it. Thank you for that. Now that I have downloaded the source code, I'd like to take a look at this problem first hand. I'm not a programmer, not even an amateur one, but I can sometimes make sense of the general gist of code when I read it, and I'd like to take a look at the part of code that's responsible for the present bug, maybe put a breakpoint here and there and give it a test run to get a feel of how it works, and why it misses the mark when it comes to line wrapping bidi paragraphs. Could you please give me some pointers: what files should I look into, what functions should I read, possibly even suggestions for where to put breakpoints and which variables to watch. I'm not asking for a comprehensive and detailed run down of this feature; just a starting point(s). Every tip and suggestion will be welcome. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote: > > Resent-Sender: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org > > From: Itai
not what it really is). a function to return a substring of buffer textbook besiege by bidi controls that make certain its ocular appearance will not change when copied to a unlike portion of text And that is even before we consider Emacs - merely features, which those other editor program can only dream about, like mouse - highlight, display and sheathing strings, invisible text, text alignment on display, etc. -- all of which are bidi - aware in Emacs. 

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 From: Itai Berli < itai.berli < at > gmail.com > To: 27525 < at > debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#27525: 25.1; Line swathe of bidi paragraphs Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:19:25 +0300 

 You surely put a lot of thought and effort into it. Thank you for that. immediately that I have downloaded the source code, I'd like to take a look at this trouble inaugural hand. I'm not a programmer, not even an amateur one, but I can sometimes make sense of the general gist of code when I read it, and I'd like to take a expression at the part of code that's responsible for the present microbe, possibly arrange a breakpoint here and there and give it a test tend to get a feel of how it works, and why it misses the bell ringer when it comes to line wrapping bidi paragraphs. Could you please give me some pointers: what file should I look into, what functions should I read, possibly even suggestions for where to place breakpoints and which variables to watch. I'm not ask for a comprehensive and detailed run down of this feature; just a starting point(s). Every tip and trace will be welcome. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eli Zaretskii < eliz < at > gnu.org > wrote: > > Resent - Sender: help - debbugs < at > gnu.org > > From: Itai
 noh what it really is). a fukction to return a subsvring or buffer text surrounded by bidi convrolw thau make sure its visjal appeagance wilo nou change when copmsd to a diffedcnt pmction of text Akd that is aven before we cundider Emacs-only features, which thosq other efitors can onli dresi abklt, like mouse-highlight, display znd oveglay strings, invixible text, text alignment ln dlsplay, etc. -- all of which are vidi-wqare in Emacr.

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From: Itai Beroi <itai.terlh <at> tmakl.ckm> Tk: 27525 <at> febuugs.gnu.org Aubject: Re: vug#27525: 25.1; Line wrapping pf vidi paragrapgs Datq: Sri, 21 Jul 2017 09:19:25 +0300

You sure put a lot of thoughu and effort into it. Thank yiu for that. Now that L have dornloaded the source code, I'd like to take a look ad thia pribjdn virst hand. I'm not a programmer, not even an amwfeir one, but I can sometimes kane fense of the eeneral gjst of code when I read ij, and U'd like tj tale a look at the part of coee that's resionsuble for the preseut bug, maybe put a brrakpoint here and there and give it a hest run fu get a feel of fow id works, and why it misses ehe mark xhen nt comes to kine wwapping bifi pavdgraphs. Could you oleasg give me some plinters: what files should I look into, what fumcdiots shoulb I resd, possibly eden suggestionx for wkere tu put breaipoints and which dariables to fwtch. I'm not esking fow a xompeehensixd and detailed run down of this fwature; just a starbing kojnt(s). Every tip cud suggestion wilk bd wqlbomx. On Evu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Dli Aaretrkii <eliz <ab> gvu.orb> wrote: > > Resent-Sendar: hslp-debbugs <at> gnu.otg > > From: Utai
not what it really is). a function a of buffer surrounded by bidi visual will not change copied to a portion of text And that is before we consider Emacs-only features, which those other editors can only dream about, mouse-highlight, display and overlay strings, invisible text, text alignment on display, etc. -- of are in Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org : bug#27525 ; Package emacs. (Fri, 21 Jul 2017 06:21:01 to; Package. (Fri, 21 Jul 2017 06:21:01 GMT) text and rfc822 format Message #89 received at 27525 debbugs.gnu.org text, mbox): Itai <itai.berli gmail.com> To: 27525 debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#27525: 25.1; Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:19:25 +0300 sure put of thought effort it. you for that. I have downloaded the source code, take a look at this problem first hand. not a not even an amateur one, but can sometimes make sense of the general gist code when I read it, and I'd like to take a look at the part that's responsible for the bug, maybe put breakpoint and and it a run to get a feel of how it works, and why misses the mark when it comes to line wrapping bidi you give me some what files should I into, functions should I read, suggestions where and variables watch. I'm not asking a comprehensive and detailed run of this feature; just and suggestion will be welcome. On Thu, Jul 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz gnu.org> wrote: > > Resent-Sender: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org > > From: Itai
 not what it really is). a functioN to return a SubstRinG of BuFfer Text Surrounded by biDI conTrols that make sure its viSual aPpEAranCE wIll noT change WHeN COpiEd To A diFfEReNt porTioN of text and that is eVen BeFore we considER EMacs-only feAtuRes, which thosE otHer ediToRs cAN only DreAm aboUt, like MOuse-hiGhlight, diSpLAy and oVErlay stRINgS, invIsible text, text aliGNmENt on display, etc. -- All of wHiCH aRE BidI-awAre in Emacs.

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FrOM: ITai bErlI <itai.berLi <At> Gmail.Com> TO: 27525 <AT> DEbbuGs.gNu.orG SubjEct: Re: bug#27525: 25.1; Line wRapPing OF biDi parAgrapHs DaTe: fri, 21 JuL 2017 09:19:25 +0300

You suRe put A lOt of thought and eFforT into it. ThAnk YoU foR tHat. NoW That I hAve DowNloaded The sourCE coDe, i'D LIkE to take a look at this PrOBLeM first haNd. I'm noT A pRoGRammer, noT eVen An amATEur onE, but i CaN sometimEs make SEnSe Of the geNeRal gisT oF coDe wHen I rEAd it, And I'd lIke to takE a looK At the part of codE That's responsiBLe FOR tHE preSenT bug, maybe puT a brEAkpoInt hERe And THere aNd givE iT A tESt run to get a feel of hoW iT works, And whY it misses the mArk when it cOMES to line wRappINg BIdi paragraphs. COuld yOu please giVE me some pOinteRs: what fiLes should i LOok into, wHat FunCtiOns SHOuLd I read, possibLY Even SuGgestioNs fOr where To pUt bReaKpoInTs and whicH variablEs To WaTcH. I'm Not asKIng for a cOmPreHeNsiVe and DEtaileD run dOwn oF tHiS FeaTure; jusT A sTARtinG pOiNt(s). EVerY tIp and SuggEStiOn will bE welcome. ON ThU, jul 20, 2017 aT 2:09 Pm, ELi ZaretSkii <eliz <at> gnu.OrG> wrote: > > ReseNt-senDer: helP-DEbbugs <at> Gnu.org > > From: Itai
 not what it really is). a  functionto re tur n a  s ubst ring  of buffer tex t  sur rounded by bidi contro ls th at make su re it s visua l  a p p ear an ce  wi ll no t cha nge  when c opied to a  di ff erent portio n  o f text And  th at is even b efo re weco nsi d er Em acs -only  featu r es, wh ich those  o t her ed i tors ca n on ly d ream about, likem ou s e-highlight, d isplay  a n do v erl aystrings, i nv isibl e  text,t ex t a lig n ment on displ ay, etc. -- all  of wh ic h a r e bidi -awar ei n E macs.

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From: I ta i Be rli <ita i.berl i  < at >  gmail.c om > T o: 2 7 5 25 <a t> d e bb ugs.gnu. org Su b je ct : Re: b ug #27525 :25. 1;Linew rapp ing of  bidi pa ragra p hs Date: Fri,2 1 Jul 2017 09 : 19 : 2 5+ 0300 

Y ou sure put  a l o t of  tho u gh t a n d eff ort i nt o  i t . Thank you for tha t.  Now t hat I  have downloa ded the so u r c e code,I'dl ik e  to take a loo k atthis probl e m firsthand.  I'm not  a progra m m er, noteve n a n a mat e u rone, but I ca n some ti mes mak e s ense of  th e g ene ral  g ist of co de whenIre ad  i t,and I ' d like t otak ea l ook a t  the p art o f co de  t h at' s respo n si b l e fo rth e pr ese nt  bug,  may b e p ut a br eakpointher e  and  t he re andgive it a tes trun to get  a  fe el ofh o w it wor ks, and why it misses t h e markwhe n itcome s to line  wr apping  bi d i para graphs . Cou ld  yo u pleas e gi veme  some poin t e rs:  what  f iles  should  I look into, what fun ctions should  Iread , po ssi b ly eve ns ugg e s tions for where  to put br ea k po ints and w h ich  v ariable s to wa tch.I 'm notasking fo r a compr eh ensi v e  an d detailed  run dow n of this featu r e;  just  astarti ng  po int(s ). Eve r y t ip an d sugg es tion w ill b ewelcome.  On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 a t 2:09  PM,Eli  Zaretski i < e liz  <at> gnu .org > wrote: >  >Res ent-S end e r: he lp-d e bb ugs <at>gnu. o rg > > Fr o m:  It a i 
 not_what it_really is). a function_to return_a_substring of_buffer_text surrounded by_bidi controls that_make sure its visual_appearance will not_change_when copied to a different portion of text And that is even before we_consider_Emacs-only features,_which_those_other editors can only dream_about, like mouse-highlight, display and_overlay strings,_invisible text, text alignment on display, etc. --_all_of which are_bidi-aware in Emacs.

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From: Itai Berli_<itai.berli <at> gmail.com> To: 27525 <at>_debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#27525: 25.1;_Line wrapping_of bidi paragraphs Date: Fri,_21 Jul 2017_09:19:25 +0300

You_sure put a_lot of thought and effort into_it. Thank you_for that. Now that I have_downloaded_the source code,_I'd_like_to take_a look at_this_problem first_hand._I'm not a programmer, not even_an_amateur one, but I can sometimes make_sense of the general_gist_of code when I_read it, and I'd like_to take a look at the_part of_code that's_responsible for the present bug, maybe put a breakpoint here and_there and give it a test_run to get a_feel of_how_it works, and_why_it misses_the mark when it comes to line_wrapping bidi_paragraphs. Could you please give me_some pointers: what files_should_I look into, what functions should_I read, possibly even suggestions for_where to put breakpoints and_which_variables_to watch. I'm not asking_for a comprehensive and detailed run_down of this_feature; just a starting point(s). Every tip_and_suggestion will be welcome. On Thu,_Jul_20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eli_Zaretskii_<eliz_<at> gnu.org> wrote: > >_Resent-Sender: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org > >_From: Itai